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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:13:52 -0700
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Subject:      Re: A supported DOS Wordprocessor

   >Same here. I am using WP 5.1+, if I have to produce formatted text,
   >which allows me to send faxes in WP quality. Very powerful tool. I

Do you have fax software on your lx that reads and
sends WP format? If so, will it read Word format? What
is it and where might one find it?

tia,
n.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:30:09 EDT
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Hal,

I ask this question out of complete ignorance of the technical aspects of
flash cards, but a sincere curiosity:  Is it possible to partition a 440 Meg
flash card into two and, if so, would that do any good?

-roger-

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:48:10 -0800
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I would like to get a copy of Word 5 for dos.  Is there a site to download
or a place that sells it?

Thanks,
Mark

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Fred, DOS Word 5 had an add-on -- something or other called Pageview, as best
I can recall ten years later -- that I believe required EGA or Hercules
graphics for page previewing.  But it was no more legible than the thumbnails
we see in Windows these days, really just a schematic representation of the
document.  It was one of their first implementations of an interface that
grew up to be Windows.

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In a message dated 6/30/99 8:39:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, th@CSI.COM
writes:

> > The basic wordprocessor fits on a standard 4Mb LX with plenty of room to
>  > spare.
>
>  Exactly how muc room to spare? Under 1MB?

Installing only the word processor, without the bibliographical and
text-search software takes under 2Mb and, depending upon what else you have
loaded, can leave you with well over 1 Mb of disk space  (With a 4Mb LX, I
will frequently swap my programs and files out anyway, and keep some of my
software on flash, so this doesn't bother me; upgraded palmtops will have
plenty of room left over).  As you are aware, the data files for NB, being
text rather than binary, are fairly compact.

>
>  > The full distribution package includes disk-eating extras,
>
>  Do you have all these installed?

I mainly use the basic word processor on the palmtop and leave the rest for
desktop or laptop use.

>  How does underline mode show on your palmtop screen? I must have the
>  wrong printer file installed or something.

The way underline mode appears is not related to the printer driver.  Here is
how I have my installation set up.  First, you have to terminate system
manager and run this off the DOS prompt.  I use the On-/ key combination to
invert the screen "colors" so that the background is white and the foreground
shows the interface in black.  I display underlining as slightly gray-shaded
text.  I use inversion or flashing mode to display other character
attributes.  Again, it takes some experimentation to get satisfactory
results, but I am quite pleased.  Also, by adjusting the screen contrast with
ON -(minus) or ON +(plus), I am able to clearly see all menu selections.
What I had to review and refresh my memory on before posting this were a
couple of legal documents involving extensive underlining and other character
formatting, including bold and italics.  I have no problem with this.
Naturally, it's not going to look the same as it does on an EGA/VGA color
screen, but IMHO, it is quite acceptable.  BTW, from the visual standpoint,
you're not going to do much better with MS Word for DOS 6.0 or, at least to
the best of my recollection, WP 5.1.(which I very rarely use).

Although I doubt that it will help you much, because you have to play with
these settings to suit your own tastes, If you'd like, I'd be happy to e-mail
you my nbcustom.set file.  I don't see any point in posting it to the list.

-roger-

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In a message dated 7/1/99 12:48:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU writes:

>  would like to get a copy of Word 5 for dos.  Is there a site to download
>  or a place that sells it?
>
Probably not, and Microsoft reports that it is not Y2K compliant and will not
be fixed.  Word for DOS version 6 was their last upgrade and is reported to
be compliant.  I haven't seen it sold in quite some time.  If it is not
available by direct order from Microsoft, you might try some of the online
auction houses or software warehouses.  Something else to look for:  When
Microsoft was trying to get its customers to switch to the Windows version,
they bundled Word 6 for DOS with Wordd 6 for Windows for upgraders.  If you
can find someone who got this package and doesn't need the DOS version, you
may be able to wangle a bargain.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:24:08 -0700
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WordPerfect 5.1 has a useable print preview

Nancy A. Barker wrote:
>
> Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
> on the 200lx?

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:03:40 -0400
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Hi David,

>I find the argument that `creative marketing' produces much sustainable
>value is dubious at best, and that---I believe---_is_ illustrated,
>perhaps inadvertently, by your example.

  You are entitled to your opinion on what might "perhaps inadvertently"
be illustrated by my example, but you will not convince very many people,
much less this former professional life and health insurance salesman who
used creative marketing to sell intangibles for a living, that creative
marketing can produce little sustainable value! ;-)

  I could go on and be more specific, but I believe that my point has
been adequately made. So, let's not waste anymore time or bandwidth on
this minor issue and move on to a more productive discussion.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Anyone have any experience with these?

There is a guy selling these on Ebay. He doesn't have
printer drivers and a search of Seiko's site found nothing.

Here is the run down form the ebay posting.

Seiko DPU-411 Portable Receipt Printer
Quiet Thermal Operation
DC Power for Portable use
AC Adapter for Convenient Home or Office use
Prints 40 or 80 Column on 4 1/8" Paper
Parallel and Serial Ports for Easy Connection to
ANY System

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Mack, Hal, I wonder if you guys might have some input on the subject of this
thread.  Do you ever get palmtops for repair that did not suffer unnatural
treatment?

Domingo

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You can get the program from the manufacturer still, for something like
$49 -$69. I got mine for $49 after haggling.  Others got theirs for the
higher price.  You can get an idea of the look and feel of the program from
a similar one on SUPER called UNO.  But that one is not as good or as fast
as InfoSelect.  Lastly, you can try a Sysmgr program called FFDB (from SUPER
also).  It similar to Notetaker, but with some of the functionality of
InfoSelect.

Domingo

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> Before I started using a 200LX, I used Infoselect for Windows and really
> liked it. Where does one get the DOS version of Infoselect that runs on
> the LX? Is it available on the net somewhere for download?
>
> Steve
>
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TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders wrote:
> If
> you want to be really picky DOS is not a command line based system
> since you have to load a shell (command.com)

So I want to be picky. <G> Theoretically, there could be a shell for
DOS that is GUI based. Practically, there is: Windows (up to and
without NT).

> Also, just
> loading XWindows on top of UNIX does NOT remove the command line
> based interface underneath

But you could remove the shell binaries from the system and it would
still work. You then had a GUI-only system.

All I want to say: command line vs. GUI has nothing to do with the OS
(except maybe for NT where the "OS" is actually a GUI with some OSish
"features" attached to it. "command line" vs. "GUI" only has to do with
the shell being used, i.e. the program used with the OS to talk to the
user.

What we certainly agree: a UNIX system is mostly used with a command
line based shell and a Windhose system is mostly used with a graphical
shell.

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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> I would like a easy way to swich between the "standard" setup of
> download/headers and the 9600 setup where I do not download any
> newsgroups..is there a way of doing this besides going throug the 20
> newsgroups and swiching to -- for every newsgroups

You can use the "set" feature of POST/LX. When you press ALT-S (in the
main screen), you can assign any sets to the currently selected box,
e.g. you can enter "m" (for "most important") to assign this box to the
set "m". When you then press Ctrl-S (in the main screen) and enter
"m", POST/LX will only show (and visit) the boxes that are within set
"m".

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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> I have tested these scripts with a friends Nokia 8810 and they worked
> very well.
>
> Since I do not own a phone yet with Irda, I would like to use the
> Hp 700 Lx with the scripts..I can not get this to work. I get:
>
> Enabeling datacard..
> Setting up parameters..
> Got AT+CPMS-"SM"
> Error

The Nokia 2110 (which I assume you are using with the OmniGo700), or
rather the built-in DataCard does not support the AT command set that
was standardised by ETSI. The OmniGo is older than that standard IIRC.
Sorry about that!

But I think the OmniGO has a great built-in SMS program hasn't it?

> The pcmciacard which is internal in the Hp700 does it support the Etsi
> standard?

Oops. I should read on before replying. <G>

> Any suggestions other than waiting for the Irda Nokia 7110..

It would be possible to adapt the ROBOT/LX scripts to use the AT
commands understood by the 2110 datacard. But someone would have to do
it...

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:49:37 +0100
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Announcement of PIM add-on for PE
---------------------------------

If you need PIM (Personal Information Management; appointment book,
phone book, notes etc.) applications that show colorful rotating icons
that you must click and double-click with the mouse, then you better
stop reading. This product will not be useful for you!

If you are willing to invest a bit of initial thought and learning,
this product might turn into a highly efficient productivity tool that
you will depend on.

I stopped using the built-in applications of the palmtop (ApptBook,
PhoneBook, NoteTaker) and use PE.EXE and PIM.EXE to do all the
functions that these applications provide - and quite a bit more.

PE.EXE is the core of the package and it is a new version of PalEdit
that supports PIM features. PIM.EXE is a program that can visualize
your data in many ways. Both programs are copyrighted freeware and
available from D&A Software by ftp from ftp.dasoft.com in directory
/pub/PE as pe.zip and pim.zip.

Note that the product is not supported by D&A Software and neither
by the author. If you ask questions in places like the HPLX mailing
list, there is a good chance to get an answer though.

Some features:

- Graphical daily, weekly, and monthly views and a list view
- All data is pure ASCII
- Data may be spread across many files (e.g. sorted by topic)
- All pieces of data can be linked to other pieces
- All data can be assigned to multiple categories and boolean
  expressions can be used to set filters on categories
- Data can be imported/exported from/to vCard and vCalendar
  format (a utility to convert ADB files to vCalendar is also included)
  and exported to CDF (CSV) format.
- Many different views are supported (e.g. pending tasks, tasks and
  appointments, done tasks, future tasks, overdue tasks etc.)
- Structured data (e.g. start dates, end dates, alarms etc.) can be
  freely mixed with text
- Alarms which turn on the palmtop are supported (and can be mixed with
  system manager alarms).
- All fonts are configurable, as are many of the aspects of the daily,
  weekly and monthly views
- Full support of repeating tasks and appointments, even such events
  relative to Easter


And last but not least I want to heartily thank everyone in the
magnificent beta team! Without them and their ideas, suggestions,
creativity and searching for bugs, the product would never have
become what it is now.

Andreas Garzotto, 30-Jun-99

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:41:57 -0700
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> > Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and
> >  you stop posting your theories about HV.
>
> Avi & Jeff clearly have different views on freedom of expression.

Probably Jeff and I feel VERY much the same about free
expression. Seems that me expressing myself causes some
problem to you, or?

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> Ah, now I understand.  They are not common in the UK -
> really only in bathrooms for shavers.  None in the office !

Yes, at first I kept seeing them in several places, but lately
they vanished :¨ - indeed I saw just an anomaly.

> Enjoy the rain in London.   It's Wimbledon tennis, so it
> rains.

London without rain is unnatural. It is a nuisance, but once
you accept it as something that exists (say a wart on one's
face :¨) then it is very inconsequential.

I keep seeing people walking down the street with no umbrella,
and with no hurry while the rain just drops on them. And I am
not talking about the drunks and druggies :) ...

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Don,

> Does anyone know which version of Software Carousel will work best on the
> HP1000CX palmtop?
>
> 1.  Old version 6.x distributed by Softlogic Solutions and Sunshine but
> designed for "standard" desktop/laptop PCs?
>
> 2.  Newer version 7.x distributed by Sunshine and Thaddeus but designed for
> HP100LX and HP200LX?

Hmmm... I think both will work essentially the same. The
special code for 100LX and 200LX simply recognizes the
presence of System Manager if it there, then does special
things. That will not happen on your 1000CX, of course.

On item to consider is if there is any color in the
non-HP-specific version. That may make it harder to use on
the LCD.

BTW, I am not sure I would agree with Roger's recommendation
re 1000CX. The built-in apps add a great deal of value to the
machine (and I am sure it is reflected to some degree in the
price). I have often though about 1000CX but there are just
too many nice things about having the built-ins.

One item for example is the extensive calculator and solver
function. This is one of the more significant implementations.
It is able to work with other apps on the machine as well,
adding quite a bit of power.

I use Lotus a lot, many people started using CC:mail app in
conjunction with a program offered for internet email, for
light bookkeeping the Pocket Quicken is more than adequate.
The databases are fun to use and create, and can become quite
useful. In short a lot of value in the built-ins.

Good Hunting!

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Olas,

> HV is important to me. The HP200LX is my primary computer,
> including using the web. I don't recreational browse, but

The line is blurred between passing along information and
doodads - many companies now have more doodads than ever.
For some reason they feel that animated images really
convey deep meanings about themselves.

> Without HV I loose an important function of my 200LX. I
> don't want to go to a laptop, but without HV I would have
> to consider the options.

I think that ultimately there will be another machine as a
sequel to the 200LX, one much along the lines described in
several threads here as a dream machine. It will have 486
cpu, memory etc. They will be capable of running products
like Win95 and Netscape and Opera. The pressure to find
this kind of machine is high and I suspect much more
effective than to make HV something only half the people
can use, or coercing the author to od it :) ...

> A registered WWW/LX user since October 96

I think few people understand the meaning of this: You have
been using WWW/LX since the very first month it came out.
It is an historical relic by now. Time to move on...

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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WordPerfect 5.1 makes previews in 100%, 200% and 50%
view (even 2 sheets view). You can see some screenshots
on http://www.goeldi.com/lx/ including the WordPerfect
preview. It _IS_ good readable even on the LX.

-goe-

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Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
on the 200lx? I have Word 5.5, but it won't allow it
on the lx, only on my laptop. I assume it needs more
than CGA. I tried several shareware for a while but
couldn't find anything. Any help?



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AFAIK Word does only print preview the whole page,
so you cannot read the text. In WordPerfect you
can preview the page in 200% mode, so the text
is readable even in preview mode. You can see
it on http://www.goeldi.com/lx/

-goe-

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>> Hp 700 Lx with the scripts..I can not get this to work. I get:
>The Nokia 2110 (which I assume you are using with the OmniGo700), or
>rather the built-in DataCard does not support the AT command set that
>was standardised by ETSI. The OmniGo is older than that standard IIRC.
>But I think the OmniGO has a great built-in SMS program hasn't it?


Mmm, I have a 700LX and 2110 but I didn't bother with any 3rd party programs
for SMS. The 700 LX has a nice SMS program of writing and storing SMS
messages, fwd, fetches phone number from the phone list too.

I played around with the Datacard internal in the 700LX using Datacom. Now
the card has an internal SMS program too, called up by an AT command.
Rudimentary, but does give one a SMS interface so that a keyboard and screen
can be used. One could use this on any pcmcia-slotted computer with a
terminal prog.

So if your 700LX croaks one day it is possible to remove the Datacard, buy
or make a cable to connect to your Nokia phone and use it on another
computer... :-)

The AT command manual is on the Nokia site as a Windows Help file for
anybody interested, there is also another related file, but I don't remember
what it is.

So if the Robot/LX scripts can be customized then all that's needed is to
read the help file and replace/add to the scripts. They are just plain
ASCII, I suppose.

Just my 50 xre (smallest Norwegian denomination ~ 6 US cents)...

br

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Comments: To: TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

You're wrong. The most popular Unix system, RedHat 6.0, defaults to run X Windows. Microsoft Windows 2000 (aka NT5) can boot without the GUI.

There is no distinction anymore between Unix and MS Windows as far as the GUI/command line is concerned. There was a historical difference because Unix came a few decades earlier when graphics were expensive. That is not the case today.

A.

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> OK, here is a little test for you. Take ANY current or past version
> of UNIX and install it on ANY machine that it will run on and WHAT
> interface will you be presented with by default, a command line based
> interface.

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I want to buy an extra cable.
The price for a new one seems high.
Thx

LTC Doug McAllaster
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> What is the hinge crack?

Go to www.palmtop.net and look in the MORE section.  There is a
link called something like "look at that nasty hinge crack".
It's a great closeup picture of what happens to too many LXs.

cheers... Russ

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I use WP 5.1 on my DS/32 meg 200LX but could never get the screen extender=
 to
work.  Kept getting errors (sorry I cant remember the error message).
There was a discussion on this topic a while back on the HPHand or
WPUsers forum but I think I concluded (hopefully I am wrong) that it was
either not possible to use screen extender on the HP or that it would
require hard resets after use SE (sorry my memory is really
failing me).  Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Barbara

(Barbara L. Moy - bmoy@csi.com)

> That is mostly what I use on the HP.  I have 5.1 with screen
> extender and the jeteye irda tool and can print nicely to my
> office hp laserjet 2100.
>

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Hi Russ,

> What cluster size is used on those upgraded 32 and 64 meg drives?

You should be able to find it out by running chkdsk.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Nancy,

> Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
> on the 200lx? I have Word 5.5, but it won't allow it
> on the lx, only on my laptop. I assume it needs more
> than CGA. I tried several shareware for a while but
> couldn't find anything. Any help?

Yes, there is:
If you are familiar with LaTeX (TeX) you can download LXTEX from SUPER.
It's a TeX that's adapted to the LX. This version is configured to work
with the HP DeskJet as a printer. If you have anther printer, you
would have to download the right font files and drivers from
ftp.dante.com .
If you haven't heard from TeX yet, let me say, it's pretty difficult to
handle: First the configuring is difficult (You probably have not much
to configure if you use a HP Deskjet. If you use a Canon BJ printer, I
can give you my version, so you also have not much to configure.

It's one of the best word processor programs I've ever seen (in my
opinion, at least). It's espacially for scietific purposes, since you
can very pretty typeset mathematical formulas.
But also for plain text it is very nice.

You have to input your text with embedded formatting commands.
(For example: \begin{center} \bf \Large The TEX book \end{center}
gives you the bold headline "The TEX book", centered.
It's a
little bit like programming. You have to run a compiler after entering
the raw file. After this, you can run a previewer and then the printer
driver program. The previewer and the printer need these special fonts
that you have to have adapted to your printer.

If you want to learn more about LaTeX, you can go to a library or book
shop and look for a LaTeX beginner book. Have a look at the first pages
and decide if you want to use it.

GTX
daniel


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Hi friends,

I just upgraded my 200 LX 4MB to Double Speed and 6 MB.
It's amazing! It works all correctly and it's all so fast!!

Thanks to all who encouraged me to do the upgrade!

Thanks to Mack for all the infos, thaks to Ales Bourek who gave me tips
how to do the upgrade and thanks to all others who talked to me
regarding this subject!

And thanks to Thomas Rundel who sold the upgrade and gave additional
informations.

I cannot remember that I ever was _such_ carefully when taking a machnie
apart... ;-)

Most impressional is the speed of my LaTeX now! It seems
to use EMS now and the double speed does the rest - a 50 page document
was compiled within abt. 3 minutes (sorry, I didn't do exact
measurements). Before the upgrade it took abt. 8 Minutes!

And Avi: The scrolling in Post/LX is now faster, too! ;-)
(You remember our discussion?)

Just wanted to let you know.
Yes, the LED light project goes on, too! ;-)
I'm just soldering all the LEDs to the lights right now - I think most of
them will be finished this evening!
(Just for the 9 who ordered one.)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:49:22 +0200
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Hello,

I presently use WWWlx with a Nokia 8110 and a Psion GSM Gold card for
mobile e-mail.  The combination works reliably over most of the world.

But the Nokia 8110 doesn't work in the US (doesn't support 1900
MHz).  So I have bought an Ericsson I888 "World phone" and am hoping to
get the same useability as with the Nokia 8110, including in the USA.

Does anyone have expereince with the Ericsson I888 and the HP200?

Particularly:
1)  I am wondering if IR communications work between the I888 and the
HP200, for WWWlx.  If the connection works, how reliable is it?  And
also, how practical is it?  While travelling it seems that I often
check and send e-mail from odd places, having the palmtop "cabled" to
the mobile phone makes things easier.  I have some concern that an IR
connectionn might be less practical.

2)  Which GSM cards are compatible with the HP200?

One pssibility, for me, is to "upgrade" a Psion GSM Gold card to the
I888. Psion doesn't sell a GSM card specifically for Ericsson phones,
for whatever reason, so the GSM card + "upgrade" are rather expensive.
If I go this route, I want to be 100% sure that it will work.

I have tried the Ericsson DC23v4 GSM card, admittedly quickly, at a
dealer.  I couldn't get it to work with WWWlx.
Does anyone else have experience with the Ericsson card?

Why would some GSM cards work and not others?  Power consumption
doesn't appear to be the reason, since I sm looking at "GSM only"
cards, which draw considerably less current that GSM/modem combination
cards.

I am grateful for any experience you all care to share.
Thanks,



--
Joseph J. Kaelin    Consulting Engineer
Maienberg 1
CH-8852 Altendorf
Switzerland

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Message text written by Stephan Goeldi
>What is ELKS?<

It was (is) a project to port Unix (Linux) to an 8086 platform.  When the=

project was started there was a small flurry of activity in the newsgroup=
s
but that dwindled as more people got rid of their 8086 hardware.  I lost
track of what happened to the project. I'll bet someone on the list has t=
he
names of the newsgroups.

.ed.

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Message text written by INTERNET:dcollins@TRENDX.COM
>Isn't that İPC-Therapist¨ a norton utility for insecure MS operating
systems?
<
No, but it might be a useful thing to run on the Palmtop for those who ha=
ve
to contend with the more recent OSs from MS.

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Message text written by INTERNET:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
>I have a parallel port zip drive which may be adding complications
to the mix.  I did not try chaining them but the zip is "installed"
under win95.
<

Tell me about it Fred.  I finally gave up futzing with ZIP parallel on
Win98. It would install properly, run once and then crash the whole
machine.  The techs at Iomega tried to help but finally agreed that I
needed a new Zip with the software on a  CD rather than running the
software from their web site.  Apparently that had only been tested for
Win95/NT. The best that we could figure was that there was some bad
interaction between the Win98 power management and the Zip drivers.  PS:
I've not had any luck with a ZIP USB either.

.ed.
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Announcement of PIM add-on for PE
---------------------------------

If you need PIM (Personal Information Management; appointment book,
phone book, notes etc.) applications that show colorful rotating icons
that you must click and double-click with the mouse, then you better
stop reading. This product will not be useful for you!

If you are willing to invest a bit of initial thought and learning,
this product might turn into a highly efficient productivity tool that
you will depend on.

I stopped using the built-in applications of the palmtop (ApptBook,
PhoneBook, NoteTaker) and use PE.EXE and PIM.EXE to do all the
functions that these applications provide - and quite a bit more.

PE.EXE is the core of the package and it is a new version of PalEdit
that supports PIM features. PIM.EXE is a program that can visualize
your data in many ways. Both programs are copyrighted freeware and
available from D&A Software by ftp from ftp.dasoft.com in directory
/pub/PE as pe.zip and pim.zip.

Note that the product is not supported by D&A Software and neither
by the author. If you ask questions in places like the HPLX mailing
list, there is a good chance to get an answer though.

Some features:

- Graphical daily, weekly, and monthly views and a list view
- All data is pure ASCII
- Data may be spread across many files (e.g. sorted by topic)
- All pieces of data can be linked to other pieces
- All data can be assigned to multiple categories and boolean
  expressions can be used to set filters on categories
- Data can be imported/exported from/to vCard and vCalendar
  format (a utility to convert ADB files to vCalendar is also included)
  and exported to CDF (CSV) format.
- Many different views are supported (e.g. pending tasks, tasks and
  appointments, done tasks, future tasks, overdue tasks etc.)
- Structured data (e.g. start dates, end dates, alarms etc.) can be
  freely mixed with text
- Alarms which turn on the palmtop are supported (and can be mixed with
  system manager alarms).
- All fonts are configurable, as are many of the aspects of the daily,
  weekly and monthly views
- Full support of repeating tasks and appointments, even such events
  relative to Easter


And last but not least I want to heartily thank everyone in the
magnificent beta team! Without them and their ideas, suggestions,
creativity and searching for bugs, the product would never have
become what it is now.

---

Andreas Garzotto, 30-Jun-99

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jjk@JKAELIN.CH Joseph J. Kaelin wrote:
> 1)  I am wondering if IR communications work between the I888 and the
> HP200, for WWWlx.  If the connection works

Provided the I888 is basically the same as the SH888 (and just works on
different frequences), it should work.
> how reliable is it?

I heard reports of SH888s for which it works reliably but also reports
of SH888 for which it barely worked. Don't know what makes the
difference.

>  And also, how practical is it?

I don't use the *888, but the Nokia 8810. I consider it *much* handier
than the cable/datacard/phone juggling I had to do before.

Don't know about what GSM card work and why.

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> Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and
> you stop posting your theories about HV.

Avi,

This must be your way of telling your customers to shut up!  One minute
you are sending me private emails stating that I am becoming a power
user, from the ways that I use POST/LX, then the next minute I feel
your telling me to buzz off!  No I did not miss the smiley face, in
your reply!  My post about HV was not a theory, it was just a request
for a product upgrade from a satisfied user of only one of the many
products that I own & use from D&A.

I have heard your frustrations taken out on many people on this list in
the past, who get to you somehow, but I was not trying to do that.  I
don't feel that I deserved this one.  You really confuse me.  One day
you tell people that HV will never be upgraded, then the next day you
are asking to have a survey filled out from people who use HV, which Al
has started for you, and I have filled out.

There has been a lot of opinion/discussion about HV lately, here on the
list, and I DO NOT feel that my post was an opinion about HV, but
rather a request from a registered user of the WWW/LX package, that is
running into more and more problems lately getting to different websites
from my palmtop.

I DO understand that I did not pay for HV directly, but that it was
shipped with the WWW/LX package when I purchased it.  Without HV then
wouldn't WWW/LX be completely useless as a web browser?  One of the
reasons that I decided to purchase WWW/LX, was because the ad at your
web site indicated that one of its many features was that it was a web
browser.

You have threatened that maybe you should remove HV from the WWW/LX
package, just to shut up all the users, like myself, that use WWW/LX to
web browse, from requesting any upgrades of HV.  Maybe then you should
remove HV from the WWW/LX package, but then you would have to remove
the ad from your website stating that it has web browsing capability.

If that did happen, why would one buy WWW/LX for just the email program,
when there are other email programs out their for the palmtop, that will
do the job just fine, for less money.  I think you are taking out your
frustration on me, when it was not warranted!

I have always supported your company, and its products, and have
always, and will always post positive remarks about its products to
people on this list, and the palmtop newsgroups, who may be looking for
software that your company has to offer.  I have never complained about
D&A's prices, and have even had private emailings with you about
wanting to financially support any further developments of your
products for the palmtop.

I need to make it clear to you, and this list, that I am not a basher
of D&A's products, in no way shape or form, and will continue to use
them daily, despite your opinion of me.

Now vented, and hope much clearer,





Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:56:48 -0400
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              Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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The ELKS project is located at:

http://www.elks.ecs.soton.ac.uk/cgi-bin/ELKS/

and is still alive and well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Status of Palmtop


> Message text written by Stephan Goeldi
> >What is ELKS?<
>
> It was (is) a project to port Unix (Linux) to an 8086 platform.  When the
> project was started there was a small flurry of activity in the newsgroups
> but that dwindled as more people got rid of their 8086 hardware.  I lost
> track of what happened to the project. I'll bet someone on the list has
the
> names of the newsgroups.
>
> .ed.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:06:45 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Death from natural causes?
Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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My palmtop had white deposits on the motherboard, presumably as a result of
the Hong Kong humidity getting in and condensing there with mineral
deposits. The RAM gives intermittent errors and either the RAM or the
motherboard has to be replaced. I presume others living in similar
environmental conditions could be similarly susceptible.

A completely natural cause for the palmtop to become defective...


At 02:24 PM 01-07-99 Thursday , Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:
>Mack, Hal, I wonder if you guys might have some input on the subject of this
>thread.  Do you ever get palmtops for repair that did not suffer unnatural
>treatment?
>
>Domingo
>
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      FLUFF:  HV vs. OPERA
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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"it looks to me that we know your standards, and we are just haggling the
price! :-)"

Anyone who wants to know the whole joke for which this is the punch line,
please email me off the list :)

At 09:56 AM 01-07-99 Thursday , A Meshar wrote:

>I dunno about your standards, but the mere fact you are
>willing to code for that "thing" :) is not a good indication.
>Right now, it looks to me that we know your standards, and we
>are just haggling the price! :-)
>
>(Peter, I really could not resist this one! <VBG>)
>
>  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:42:25 +0000
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As I wrote in another thread MS Word 5.0 has fatal y2k problems from what I have read and info on MS' web site.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:38:22 +0200
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: WP5.1 and Screen Extender (Was-A supported DOS Wordprocessor)
Comments: To: bmoy@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Barbara,

> I use WP 5.1 on my DS/32 meg 200LX but could never get the screen =
extender
>  to
> work.  Kept getting errors (sorry I cant remember the error message).
> There was a discussion on this topic a while back on the HPHand or
> WPUsers forum but I think I concluded (hopefully I am wrong) that it =
was
> either not possible to use screen extender on the HP or that it would
> require hard resets after use SE (sorry my memory is really
> failing me).  Any advice would be much appreciated.

I am using screen extender, whenever I need to have an impression
what the text is going to look like.

My experience is, to avoid further problems, to reboot after using it,
which is not a problem for me. Although I don't like these kinds of
reboots.

During opreation I hadn't had any problems so far.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:58:32 -0400
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Ditto for every version of Solaris I've worked with: 2.51, 2.6, 7(or 2.7)...

-----Original Message-----
From: amanda İmailto:amanda@WINEASY.SE¨
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:31 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft


You're wrong. The most popular Unix system, RedHat 6.0, defaults to run X
Windows. Microsoft Windows 2000 (aka NT5) can boot without the GUI.

There is no distinction anymore between Unix and MS Windows as far as the
GUI/command line is concerned. There was a historical difference because
Unix came a few decades earlier when graphics were expensive. That is not
the case today.

A.

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> OK, here is a little test for you. Take ANY current or past version
> of UNIX and install it on ANY machine that it will run on and WHAT
> interface will you be presented with by default, a command line based
> interface.

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I think my problem is with the file FASTDB.TSR.  I'll do some testing and get
back with my findings.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
Interesting: it works on both 200LXs that I have.  It could be a differen=
ce
in the Rom versions. It's an undocumented feature and is not supposed to
work. Maybe you have a machine that fixed the feature.

..ed.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:09:45 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Mack, Hal, I wonder if you guys might have some input on the subject of
this
thread.  Do you ever get palmtops for repair that did not suffer unnatural
treatment?>>

As to the natural life span of the 200LX, it is hard to say. We get 15-25
palmtops a week to repair. They have screen, case/hinge, motherboard
problems that mostly are not due to user misuse.

A proper answer would be some curve of life expectancy based on stats that
no one has. I bet many on this list have used the 200LX heavily for years
without any problems, where as others have had two or three problems not due
to their misuse.

If a new 200LX stayed in its packaging, I see no reason why it wouldn't last
for several decades, but Mack will have better insight on this than me.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:27:58 -0700
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WP5.1 and Screen Extender (Was-A supported DOS Wordprocessor)
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If you installed it on a desktop prior to transfering it to
the palmtop two things often go wrong.

One the install sets up SE for the desktop, eg VGA not the
CGA necessary for the hplx

two SE records the drive and location of wp and itself.  So
if it is installed to D:\sx and WP51 is at C:\wp51 then you
tried to run them from C:\wp51 and C:\SX it will fail with
an error.  SE also won't run from drive A. So I have my A
drive id itself as drive E and ran all the install to a
desktop drive E.

Another problem is if I run WP a couple of different times,
without rebooting, it will from time to time lockup the
machine on wp startup. Since it is on startup I just make it
a point to have everything closed prior to running wp51.

There are a couple of tsrs that can conflict with SE but
since I use maxdos to run it I just make sure they are
loaded after maxdos so it moves them out the way.




Barbara L. Moy wrote:
>
> I use WP 5.1 on my DS/32 meg 200LX but could never get the screen extender to
> work.  Kept getting errors (sorry I cant remember the error message).
> There was a discussion on this topic a while back on the HPHand or
> WPUsers forum but I think I concluded (hopefully I am wrong) that it was
> either not possible to use screen extender on the HP or that it would
> require hard resets after use SE (sorry my memory is really
> failing me).  Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barbara
>
> (Barbara L. Moy - bmoy@csi.com)
>
> > That is mostly what I use on the HP.  I have 5.1 with screen
> > extender and the jeteye irda tool and can print nicely to my
> > office hp laserjet 2100.
> >
>
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:29:05 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I ask this question out of complete ignorance of the technical aspects of
flash cards, but a sincere curiosity:  Is it possible to partition a 440 Meg
flash card into two and, if so, would that do any good?>>

Mack is going to have a look.  I overnighted him the card and hopefully he
can come up with a solution.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:39:58 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> If a new 200LX stayed in its packaging, I see no reason why it wouldn't
last
> for several decades, but Mack will have better insight on this than me.

I agree with the above.  A packaged palmtop should last many years.  As for
unnatural causes of palmtop failures, there are several known problems with
the power supplies on the motherboard, a screen cable issue, and the hinge
crack of course that come to mind.  Two of those items are of course usage
related, but unavoidable in some palmtops and not usually due to misuse.  I
believe the ROM's are masked ROMs so that shouldn't be a reason for failure
and the memory is DRAM based, which I am not aware of any time related
failures for that either.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:35:38 EDT
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Subject:      Re: HV - once again...
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Jeff,
It looks like we can keep our Pepper Spray in our holders for a little
longer. ;-)

Dennis

<< Meaniehead <g>.... this has is the most civilized mailing list fight I have
 ever seen <g>.

 Jeff >>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:07:23 -0400
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              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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From:         Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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Could anyone comment on the merits of these two apps?  I've used the BATTLOG
and am wondering if there is anything to be gained by paying for ABC.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:11:50 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Other than support for the PIM stuff, did PE have any other changes in =
it's
latest version? In other words, do I need to download the new one if I'm =
not
gonna use the PIM's?

Jeff

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              "Roger S." <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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My friend in US brought one for me in April. He rcvd it in just 2~3day. I
hear no complain from him. And the card is just wonderful, it is really p=
lug
and play. It costed me US125 at that time. I should have wait :-)
I have not connection with Buy.com in any way, only a "happy customer".

Roger S.
----- Original Message -----
=B1H=A5=F3=AA=CC: Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
=A6=AC=A5=F3=AA=CC: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
=B6=C7=B0e=A4=E9=B4=C1: 1999=A6~7=A4=EB1=A4=E9 AM 04:20
=A5D=A6=AE: Fluff: Wisdom


> Stephen Petty wrote
> >From www.hplx.net
> >BuyComp - This vendor is the all-time evil vendor. If life were Star
Wars,
> >BuyComp would be the Emperor. Or maybe not.> They're so incompetent,
they'd
> >probably be a bumbling storm trooper. They take orders for products,
> >claiming to have >them in stock, AND CHARGE YOUR CREDIT CARD RIGHT THE=
N,
> and
> >never deliver the product, even if you order it >with second-day
shipping.
>
> I am about to purchase a 48MB Sandisk Compact flash card from BuyComp,
well
> I was until I saw this posting. Are they really that bad? If so, can
anybody
> recommend an alternative supplier with comparable prices to BuyComp ($9=
5
for
> 48MB).
>
> I am based in the UK but was planning on buying from a US supplier as t=
he
> prices are so much cheaper than over here.
>
> Laurence Harvey
>
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:10:19 -0400
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              Jonathan Teich <jteich@MEDIAONE.NET>
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Subject:      HP200LX Appt Book restore?
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Oops -- Yesterday, I did my usual steps to update my Appt Book from Outlook,
starting with removing all appointments later than today.  However, I
accidentally removed all appointments *earlier* than today.

I've been using the speed enhancement that postpones garbage collection, so
I quickly saved the Appt file to another filename.  If I view it in Filer, I
can see that the old information is still there.  Is there any way to
restore the information, so that it is visible again as appointments and
notes?  Failing that, can I at least get that information as a database, or
even a text file (last resort)?

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:19:11 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft

I've got RedHat 6.0 on two different machines and its default boot is to
command line.

Larry Zimmerman

On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:58:32 -0400 Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
writes:
>Ditto for every version of Solaris I've worked with: 2.51, 2.6, 7(or
>2.7)...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amanda İmailto:amanda@WINEASY.SE¨
>Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:31 AM
>You're wrong. The most popular Unix system, RedHat 6.0, defaults to
>run X Windows. Microsoft Windows 2000 (aka NT5) can boot without the
GUI.
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:32:17 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: advice on GSM Card for Ericsson I888 and HP200?
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I use a Toshiba-rebadged Psion V.34 modem which has had the Psion 'GSM Upgrade' applied to it.  I use it with an Ericsson GH388, so I got the Psion upgrade kit for the Ericsson GH3xx-series.  It works fine.  The modem also works fine on the landline, connection speeds usually 31200, with the LX at 57600.  I use GP and it works really well into our MS-Exchange server or Compuserve's POP3 server.

I can't answer for use with newer Ericsson phones, but Psion are pretty good and haev been at it a long time now.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:42:36 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Subject:      Re: BATTLOG vs. ABC/LX
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Thu,  1 Jul 1999 12:31:20 -0400 (EDT)

01h23m56s ago ...
On Thu,  1 Jul 1999, Calvin Ledford wrote:

> Could anyone comment on the merits of these two apps?  I've used the =
BATTLOG
> and am wondering if there is anything to be gained by paying for ABC.

They're two very different animals  8-)   Since you're using BATTLOG,
you already know it just monitors battery voltage during charge and
discharge.  ABC/LX is a battery monitor & charge controller.  ABC can
be set up to automatically enable charging at a user-selectable
voltage, and stop charging under several conditions (max voltage, no
rise in voltage for a specified time, and max time).  AFAIK - D&A has
a trial version on their web site:

         http://www.dasoft.com

HTH

(There's also a freeware charge controller - by yours truly - on SUPER.
Look for Charge-It!)

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:43:56 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Thu,  1 Jul 1999 11:49:38 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     Just 'cause there is not enough disagreement on the LIST of
late<VBG>...I have had pretty good luck w/ BuyComp. Bought 2 Digital
Cameras from them, some FLASH memory & MODEMs, and some other small
stuff. All was delivered as promised!

     FWIW: I have also had good luck with EggHead.com (formally Surplus
Direct)...bought my last 2 lapTops from them.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:47:47 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Am I the only person that when playing Freecell gets so darn frustrated =
that
he could just smack something? Is there a users group that I can join =
that
is for frustrated players?

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:35:38 -0500
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Are there any pics on the net showing the brass fitting used to prevent the
crack?  I'd like to make one but just cant seem to visualize it by the
descriptions.

Don.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:59:49 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I've deleted my mailings for the last few days... but I'd thought they were
discussing  buy.com not BuyComp (the latter of which I also had good results)

- Longden





Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu> on 07/01/99 09:43:56 AM

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Subject:  BuyComp "Bashing"




Thu,  1 Jul 1999 11:49:38 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     Just 'cause there is not enough disagreement on the LIST of
late<VBG>...I have had pretty good luck w/ BuyComp. Bought 2 Digital
Cameras from them, some FLASH memory & MODEMs, and some other small
stuff. All was delivered as promised!

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:06:10 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I've deleted my mailings for the last few days... but I'd thought they
> were discussing buy.com not BuyComp (the latter of which I also had
> good results)

It's the same company, and they're pure evil, and I defy anybody to
provide firm evidence to the contrary.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:08:10 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Hinge crack
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Yes, pictures of the brass fittings one user made can be found here:
http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/hpcrack.htm

Alan Striegel

>Are there any pics on the net showing the brass fitting used to prevent the
>crack?  I'd like to make one but just cant seem to visualize it by the
>descriptions.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:09:38 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Other than support for the PIM stuff, did PE have any other changes in it's
> latest version?

Just some cosmetics. But some of the PIM stuff may even be interesting
for "normal editing".

> In other words, do I need to download the new one if I'm not
> gonna use the PIM's?

Yes. First download PE, then get curious about the PIM stuff, or wait
until you have a corrupted appointment book or want to exchange
appointments with a PalmPilot or Outlock or so... then
download PIM.ZIP. <G>

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:51:31 -0300
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              Carlos A Rodrigues Alves <cara@ONS.ORG.BR>
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Somebody post a message about a HP200LX hinge crack fix.  Does anybody
sugest a fix for a broken batery cover? (actualy just the two little plastic
sticks that attach the cover to the palmtop body are broken)

sds,
carlos

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:20:53 -0500
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              Andrew King <king@CHARLIE.CNS.IIT.EDU>
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The good news is the copy of Quicken 3 for DOS that I found seems to
occupy less than 700 K. I could not get the installer to run (it kept
returning "can't install to floppy subdirectory" when I requested
C:\quicken3) but I could run it from the executable and it seemed to work
fine. It apparently will write checks and reports as well as maintain the
check register.
I think the reason the installer didn't like C: is that I was installing
on my Omnibook with external floppy. The external floppy is F: so the
installer might think that anything before F: is a floppy drive. Of course
it persisted in this belief after I copied the installer to a flash card
and put it in the A: slot....

Andrew King  king@charlie.iit.edu
IIT Physics, Chicago  312-567-3021
technology is the answer, what was the question?

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:31:51 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Quicken 3 for DOS, runs in less than 700K
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Andrew King wrote:

> The good news is the copy of Quicken 3 for DOS that I found seems to
> occupy less than 700 K.

The bad news is that Intuit says Quicken 3 is not Y2K compliant.  I don't
know specifically what the problem is, but it would be a good idea to find
out before putting all your data into it.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:26:16 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Subject:      Re: How to fix a broken batery cover
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My best fix: black duct tape. A roll costs about 5$ and will last you for
months, if not years.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos A Rodrigues Alves <cara@ONS.ORG.BR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 1:51 PM
Subject: How to fix a broken batery cover


> Somebody post a message about a HP200LX hinge crack fix.  Does anybody
> sugest a fix for a broken batery cover? (actualy just the two little plastic
> sticks that attach the cover to the palmtop body are broken)
>
> sds,
> carlos
>
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:54:09 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft

> You're wrong. The most popular Unix system, RedHat 6.0, defaults to run X Windows. Microsoft Windows 2000 (aka NT5) can boot without the GUI.
>
> There is no distinction anymore between Unix and MS Windows as far as the GUI/command line is concerned. There was a historical difference because Unix came a few decades earlier when graphics were

>
> A.
>

Thats funny, the last SEVERAL installs of RH6.0 I did didn't
"default" to using xwindows. Yes you can use xwindows but it is
hardly a requirement or default. I have been using Linux since
version 0.10 both personally and at work so I am quite familiar with
it. :-)

Pete

PS. REDHAT is not a unix system, it is merely a DISTRIBUTION of LINUX
that some people created as a way to make money.

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:53:12 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: PalEdit (PE) with PIM support
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Andreas

I downloaded the PE and Pim files, and installed them according to
instructions.

The PE.CFG  section refers to a file cur.pim but that file is not in the
pim.zip file.

Is it supposed to be created automatically, or is it missing form the .zip
file.

TIA

Alan

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:58:37 -0700
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              Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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> John Waller wrote:
> >What I really would like is a full description of the proitocol. Does
> anyone
> >have a full description of this protocol?

I tuned in late; are you talking about the Filer protocol?  Andreas Garzotto
has already written a package called "lxtools" (which I've added to.)  Works
pretty good.  I use it all the time.

I also wrote "lxbackup" using Andreas Garzotto's library.  It does
incremental backups from the HP to your unix/linux box.

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I have though, for some time now, of a program that would add great
functionality to the built in apps.  This may be a simple program but I'm not
sure because I've never built a PAL app.

The program's only function would be to display the current macro file's
descriptions in the function menu bar at the bottom of the screen.  It would be
activated by pressing the function key (Fn next to space bar) & any second key
press would return the default display.

This would facilitate using the macro keys without the need for memorizing
them.

I belive Buddy has a similar feature, but this is the only feature I desire.  A
Bud-Lite if you will.

In my limited understanding of C programing, I assume it would need to be a
TSR.  Once the Fn key is pressed, the TSR would need to

1) read the currently loaded macro file's descriptions (if available)
2) capture the default desplay (to be returnd later)
3) write the 1st 7 bytes of the descriptions in the appropriate positions
4) wait for a second key to be pressed
5) redraw the default display


Am I even close?
What would be the obsticles to writting such an app?


Don.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:03:42 -0700
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              Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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From:         Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: BuyComp "Bashing"

My understanding is that if they have the item *in stock*, they're
a good deal.  If not, do NOT buy from them.

I can attest that I tried to by a CD-Recorder from them in February.
They told me that they were back-ordered, but would have them in two
weeks.

Of course, they charged my credit card immediately.  They never shipped
a thing to me.  Three months later I called and cancelled.  We'll see
if they refund to my card as quickly as they billed it.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:05:17 -0700
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              Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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From:         Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX Appt Book restore?

I'm currently working on a project to get Andreas Garzotto's "adbload"
program to work the 200LX.  In the meantime, you can probably get
"adbdump" to generate some output that you can at least look at.

        -ed falk

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:17:55 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: advice on GSM Card for Ericsson I888 and HP200?
Comments: To: "Joseph J. Kaelin" <jjk@JKAELIN.CH>
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> I have tried the Ericsson DC23v4 GSM card, admittedly quickly, at a
> dealer.  I couldn't get it to work with WWWlx.
> Does anyone else have experience with the Ericsson card?

It works fine with my SH388. Some previous versions of www/lx did not
work with this card. Its now fixed!

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:31:59 -0700
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Socket Pagecard Wireless Email/Messaging System for Windows
and Windows CE

While the ad copy (some of which follows)talks about WinCE
machines it claims
to allow the messages to be inported to CC:Mail.

==quote====
The PageCard is the only pager with an alphanumeric
display and a PC Card interface. You can read wireless
messages at a glance or transfer messages and data
directly to your notebook computer, Windows CE-based
handheld PC.

PageSoft Pro Mobile for Windows lets you send
messages via modem through the paging network to a
PageCard. You can also transfer mssages from the
PageCard to your notebook's MS-Mail, cc:Mail,
Windows Exchange Inbox, or PageSoft Pro Inbox. The
PageSoft Forwarding Agent for Microsoft Mail checks
your mailbox on your office network and forwards
"filtered" messages to the PageCard based on criteria you
specify.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:27:16 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> In a message dated 6/28/1999 03:32:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ian@HPLX.NET
> writes:
>
> > And did I mention that Opera only costs $35?  <:-|
> >
> Siding with the capitalist, I note that Opera has a somewhat larger target
> audience than the number of LX'ers who want to Surf  the big waves on the
> electronic equivalent of a boogie board.

Good financial analysis too! I agree with the premise
completely. Another smallish point: Opera will not run on the
palmtop unless it can run in Win3.0? --- hm.... that's an
interesting combo...

I also want to know if this HV is the same Hv that we have on
our Webpage? That one is freeware AFAIK, unless someone took
over and began making policy for D&A while I was busy! :-)

Oh, yeah, it is "only" a painter of HTML files, correct, not
connection, no scriptiong, no TCP/IP... There is another
program doing that :-)

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:27:26 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: HP's and Fountain Pens
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David,

> now I know you all as friends so...
> I'm a bit nervous about this, but.....
> Yes, I admit it. I'm also a HP200 user, and I use a fountain pen!!
> And the worse thing is I'm only 37!

I dared not "go public" with the fountain pen thing. Admitted
it off the list, though :-) --- but now I see the wave
beginning to catch on. so:

Hi, my name is Avi Meshar, I am 51 and I use fountain pens.
:-)

> PS I also have a collection of Slide rules.
> Now if has Bill found a way to make logarithms obsolete?

I only have three, hardly a collection. I wish I had more.

> pps
> >From a very wet and windy London,
> that's why Avi has gone quiet - waterlogged!

Just a bit, really not badly. I have just been furiously
trying to fill up the quota of 100 posts quickly before anyone
else gets a word in edgewise :) ...

Had a nice dinner in the rain with Tony and family members,
and my friend came along. We made ourselves comfy at a nice
Italian place. That was Tuesday. Wednesday I crashed and
burned! :) I was going good for a few hours preparing for the
"Goat's" visit, then suddenly - jetlag. I went back to the
hotel and slept several hours in the afternoon. Felt good
enough to work and email and online until about 3am, and back
up early on Thursday. took another conditioning walk in prep
for the "Goat" and took in some hot, I mean hhhhhhottttt
somosas and such goodies.

Now I am waterlogged :) quenching that fire in my mouth.
Still, it tastes great.

Tuesday we were forced to get off the train on the Piccadilly
line, because they found some suspicious package in the train
and discontinued service right then and there - no jokes.
Everyone filed out and we went one station back, hopped on
another train, three stations, another train one station, and
a third three stations, and there we were.

I am not enjoying the mugginess. It is not really the heat but
the humidity. I can take heat just fine (some of you noticed
that on the list <g,d&r>) but the humidity is hard for me. On
Tue at one point during the day, with drizzle coming down and
humidity at 100%, we tried to take one of those tours of
London by bus. The first bus in their station was full, and
the drivers were all lounging around. We boarded the second
bus, per one of the drivers. Within a moment another person
shows up and demanded in not too nice a tone that we get off,
that that may not be the bus that will go next, that we should
board the first bus. Only thing, the available seats were on
the roof, open to the benign elements of London.

He did not accept our explanation. Well, the humidity, the
stupidity, and his manners got to me and I asked for a refund
instead of move to the full bus. Sure enough, as we left, the
first bus left, and the one we initially boarded and got
thrown off was stateged as the next bus. Well, no more my
business, Buddies! I can bite back.

I love the flowers all over the city. I keep buying bunches
and they fee good, look good and are cheerful. Seems to me
that there are many more varieties here than back home. It is
really lovely.

So where is the best place to buy tickets for theatre and
musical events?

Now back in the hotel, catching up on some work stuff,
writing notes, culling among the 350 pictures what I'll keep
what not. (I got this CF 80MB in the camera and even at large
format 1078x780 I have room for hundreds(!) of pictures. I
wiped out one lithium battery (about 90 hours my estimate)
and am on the second. The notebook really helps, I just open
the directory and do my thing, using PSP 3.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:21:19 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Do you mean Eliza? Is that the PC Therapist software
you are looking for?

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: Long shot


In particular, I'm looking for a copy of the DOS version of PC-Therapist by
Joseph Weintraub, a winner of the Loebner prize for AI programs.

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What are you asking? Do you have a type III PCMCIA HD that
you want to access in a desktop? The first step should be to
make sure Win98 has added the drivers for the drive the first
time you insert it into the machine... Aftger the driver is there,
you need to FDISK the drive, then you can format/etc. as
needed... (from memory).

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 9:39 PM
Subject: IDE PCMCIA socket


>I just got an IDE PCMCIA drive for my desktop, and can't seem to figure
>out how to make it work with Windows 98.  Anybody else have one of these?

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When I was youger I developed the theory that you get
*wetter* if you run - it goes something like this:

Hold your hand up, as if you were taking a pledge, like
in court.

Now move your hand slowly, and imagine the rain falling
*straight down* - water will only lang on your finger tips
(shoulders/head)...

Now move your hand faster, and not only will your fingertips
get wet, but yor fingers will get wet too - you are now "walking
into" the rain...

(Hey, I was 11 at the time, but I still think it is right)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: New HP200's in the UK


>> Enjoy the rain in London.   It's Wimbledon tennis, so it
>> rains.
>
>I keep seeing people walking down the street with no umbrella,
>and with no hurry while the rain just drops on them. And I am
>not talking about the drunks and druggies :) ...

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:04:26 -0400
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This is a very silly thread!

Red Hat Linux may or may not be the "most popular Unix"
(Ignoring for the moment that Linux =! Unix) - but it only
defaults to GUI *if* you load the *optional* X WIndows
software...

Win2K without GUI -  how do you adminster it - remotely,
from another machine that *does* have the GUI installed?

Sorry, couldn't take it any more...

Ken
kahsnen@njcc.com

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From: amanda <amanda@WINEASY.SE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft


>You're wrong. The most popular Unix system, RedHat 6.0, defaults to run X
Windows. Microsoft Windows 2000 (aka NT5) can boot without the GUI.

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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:

> What are you asking? Do you have a type III PCMCIA HD that you want to
> access in a desktop? The first step should be to make sure Win98 has
> added the drivers for the drive the first time you insert it into the
> machine... Aftger the driver is there, you need to FDISK the drive,
> then you can format/etc. as needed... (from memory).

No, but I wasn't very clear, so it's easy to see why everybody thought
that's what I meant.  What I have is a PC Card reader.  But rather than
the standard SCM Swapbox type interface, where you have a controller card
that plugs into an ISA slot, this reader just plugs into your IDE cable.
The problem is, I don't think IDE is hot-swappable, so in order to
recognize a flash card, you have to:

1) Turn the computer off
2) Insert the card into the reader
3) Turn the computer back on
4) Go into the BIOS
5) Detect hard drives and make sure it sees the flash card
6) Save changes and boot the computer up
7) Leave the card in the whole time the computer's on-- no swapping.

And forget about using anything but an ATA-compatible flash card in it...

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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:

> When I was youger I developed the theory that you get *wetter* if you
> run - it goes something like this:

In the "Why Things Are," by Joel Achenbach (I think that's how it's
spelled) he asks this question, and the answer is that the front of your
body gets the same amount of water on it whether you walk or run, because
when you run you get through the rain faster but you intersect more drops
by running.  But the top of your head (and shoulders, etc.) get more wet
the longer you stay in the rain.  So, you should run, because the overall
wetness is less that way.

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Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET> wrote:

Andreas

I downloaded the PE and Pim files, and installed them according to
instructions.

The PE.CFG  section refers to a file cur.pim but that file is not in the
pim.zip file.

Is it supposed to be created automatically, or is it missing form the .zip
file.



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Its created automatically and will be the first screen (blank) displayed upon
startup.

HTH

Regards,

Qman...
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Qman

Thanks for the clarification.

>The PE.CFG  section refers to a file cur.pim but that file is not in the
>pim.zip file.
>
>
>Its created automatically and will be the first screen (blank) displayed upon
>startup.
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:28:17 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: HP's and Fountain Pens
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Avi

If you really want more slide rules, check out
www.sphere.bc.ca/test/sruniverse.html.

A recent article in the New York Times highlighted this site.

According to the profile, the site owner has the world's largest collection
of unused slide rules for sale.

Apparently he has made $3,000 to $6,000 per month over the past 18 months.

Now that I reflect on that fact, maybe there is a life for the HP into the
future!

I too am a fountain pen user, and I use a  1 meg HP100. Maybe I should also
buy a couple of slide rules to fill out my profile <g>

Alan

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              TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Ed Falk wrote:

> > John Waller wrote:
> > >What I really would like is a full description of the proitocol. Does
> > anyone
> > >have a full description of this protocol?
>
> I tuned in late; are you talking about the Filer protocol?  Andreas Garzotto
> has already written a package called "lxtools" (which I've added to.)  Works
> pretty good.  I use it all the time.
>
> I also wrote "lxbackup" using Andreas Garzotto's library.  It does
> incremental backups from the HP to your unix/linux box.

What about those of us who are want to use be able to port information to
other platforms (e.g. Amiga) and can't use any of the current programs?
Personally, I'd love to be able to transfer easily between one obscure
platform to another.  ;¬)

-- Terry

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Living here in the Great Pacific Northwest I've had plenty
of time to ponder this.....
If your surface area remains the same, path through the rain
remains the same and the rain density remains the same, then
the only variable is time in the rain. Your velocity just
determines what surface gets wettest.
On topic, I just reloaded GEM last night. I hated using the
arrow keys as cursor movement devices, but it works GREAT with
my new touchpad. How can I inport and export graphics?

Paul
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:01:42 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Try e-bay.  I've seen them there for $12 and less.

>I want to buy an extra cable.
>The price for a new one seems high.
>Thx

>LTC Doug McAllaster
>mcallasterd@Lee.army.mil
>804-765-4262

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Has anybody else had problems getting PGP to work with the new PE? Even =
in a
SC session with lots of memory and calling MaxDOS, it gives a 'not enough
memory' message. I have reverted back to the older version of PE which =
works
fine.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:16:17 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Am I the only person that when playing Freecell gets so darn frustrated that
> he could just smack something? Is there a users group that I can join that
> is for frustrated players?

I get that way when I play Ten Thousand and the computer gets three times
2000 all the time :-)

I've often suspected the program of "helping" the computer player whenever
the human player is winning too much ;-)


It is probably just me, though :-)



Cheers,

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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote at 02:16 AM
7/2/99 +0200
>I get that way when I play Ten Thousand and the computer gets three times
>2000 all the time :-)
>
>I've often suspected the program of "helping" the computer player whenever
>the human player is winning too much ;-)

Funny, I always have the same reaction.  Especially when I go through the
whole game and never score better than 500 and the computer breaks 1000 on
almost every turn...

Which reminds me: Would anyone else like to see some kind of configuration
file for 10K that would remember if you had it running in speedy mode so
you don't have to reset that every time you start the program?  (I'd also
like to see some way of changing the "Human" and "Computer" text strings to
my name and the computer's name, but I'd bet that's just me...)

        C.

--
"I think tradition is what endures.  I'm partial to the erotic like having
a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river.  The
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Ed,
in the 70's when hi-tech referred to 'Video Recorders',and other filming
tools..there was and may still be 47thStreetPhoto...advertised great
pricing and drafted your card immediately; held your money for 45-60
days(acruing interest alllllll  the time) and then either the price had
come down to satisfy their advertisement; or by enlisting you credit card
company you could receive a refund.

A great way to use your money for 60 days and get that 'interest'...AN OLD
GAME WITH NEW 'HONEY' TO LURE THE CASH...John

At 02:03 PM 7/1/99 -0700, you wrote:
>My understanding is that if they have the item *in stock*, they're
>a good deal.  If not, do NOT buy from them.
>
>I can attest that I tried to by a CD-Recorder from them in February.
>They told me that they were back-ordered, but would have them in two
>weeks.
>
>Of course, they charged my credit card immediately.  They never shipped
>a thing to me.  Three months later I called and cancelled.  We'll see
>if they refund to my card as quickly as they billed it.
>
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Easy, Replace it with a new one.  Still available from HP as part of a kit of
replacement parts that includes rubber feet, bolts, IR cover

Carlos A Rodrigues Alves wrote:

> Somebody post a message about a HP200LX hinge crack fix.  Does anybody
> sugest a fix for a broken batery cover? (actualy just the two little plastic
> sticks that attach the cover to the palmtop body are broken)
>
> sds,
> carlos
>
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Andreas,

What is the future plan for this software? Do you plan to release a
commercial version soon?

Anand.

At 09:09 PM 01-07-1999 Thursday +0100, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

>Yes. First download PE, then get curious about the PIM stuff, or wait
>until you have a corrupted appointment book or want to exchange
>appointments with a PalmPilot or Outlock or so... then
>download PIM.ZIP. <G>
>
>Andreas
>

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I bought my Canon A5 zoom from them. They said
within two weeks, it arrived in six days, and $313
including shipping, which was $50 less than I could
find it elsewhere.


David Sargeant wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Longden Loo wrote:
>
> > I've deleted my mailings for the last few days... but I'd thought they
> > were discussing buy.com not BuyComp (the latter of which I also had
> > good results)
>
> It's the same company, and they're pure evil,

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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Stan Peters wrote:

> I bought my Canon A5 zoom from them. They said within two weeks, it
> arrived in six days, and $313 including shipping, which was $50 less
> than I could find it elsewhere.

Once again, if they have it in stock and aren't lying, they offer great
prices and quick delivery.  Otherwise...

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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

Has anybody else had problems getting PGP to work with the new PE? Even in a
SC session with lots of memory and calling MaxDOS, it gives a 'not enough
memory' message. I have reverted back to the older version of PE which works
fine.

Jeff

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I've had a similar problem, but its with the ALT+ENTER (list view).
It works fine with PE 2.1. Oh well!

Regards,

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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:25:36 -0800, "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NE=
T> wrote:

> I've had a similar problem, but its with the ALT+ENTER (list view).
> It works fine with PE 2.1. Oh well!

Well at least I know I'm not going crazy <g>. Even though it's unsupported=
,
maybe Andreas will take a look at it <hint hint>.

Jeff

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Mack,

FYI, on that palmtop left in the car, I am told by the user that he was able
to revive with a hard reset and the #2 boot option.  The List has actually
saved a palmtop from death due to heat exhaustion!

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I'd tried a program called "Arachne". It is a graphic browser, support ftp,
pop e-mail & etc. It does work, but like clawing on my Single speed 2M 200LX
with 48M CF. May be someone on the list with more memory and DS want to try
it. The address is:
www.arachne.sk
It is free for personal and non-commercial use. The zipped file is about
900k,

There is also a text browser call Bobcat, can't get it to work yet, here is
where you can find it:
www.fdisk.com the file name is bcat-e07.exe

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After playing with Arachne on the LX last night, I installed it an old =
486
to see what it would do on it. Well.... I am absolutely amazed! It sure
beats the heck out of Netscape 1.6 that I had installed on that machine =
<g>.
This is absolutely amazing! I may install it on my Pentium at home to see
how it works on a 'fast' machine. Maybe we could urge the author(s) to =
add a
setup option for the HP200LX screen?

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:42:22 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> Could anyone comment on the merits of these two apps?  I've used the =
BATTLOG
> and am wondering if there is anything to be gained by paying for ABC.

I have been using ABC/LX for quite some time now.  I probably don't
use ot the way it really was meant to be used, or how the directions
suggest to.  Not only do I use ABC/LX for the voltage display that gets
put on top of the F1 key label, but I use it to control the charging of
my NI-MH batteries.

What I do is have ABC/LX force the LX to always charge my NI-MH's
batteries when it is plugged in to my AC adapter at work all day, or
plugged into my cigarette lighter adapter in the car.  I put in an
un-reached start voltage of 2.90 for the begginning of the harge
cycle, and then set the stop fast charging at another un-reachable
voltage of 2.99.  Also I set the time limit of the fast charge cycle to
the maximum time of 16 hours, and the trickle charge time limit to the
maximum time of 16 hours.

I use this set-up because of how I use my LX.  It always has one of my
SimpleTech's 40 meg flash cards in the PCMCIA slot at all times,
except when the modem, Travel Floppy, or DoubleSlot is in the slot.  I
find that I only get about three days out of my NI-MH batteries in my
LX, when not plugged into an AC source.  I feel this is from the flash
card that I leave in my LX.

Each night, while the LX is not plugged into an AC source, I have a
backup routing that makes a mirror image of my C: drive and copies it
to my flash card, into a sub-directory that is different each day of
the week.  This nightly back-up only takes a few minutes, but combined
with the power usage of the flash card, even if I am not reading from  or
writing to the card, when I am not plugged into an AC source, must
really drain my batteries.

So that is why I like ABC/LX so much.  It does what I am asking it to
do, keep my NI-MH's fully charged at all times, so as to give me the
maximum time away an AC source as possible.  It is a very nice program,
and has been more than worth the cost of buying it to me.

Hope this helps.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Hi folks-

Been trying out some Panasonic 1500 mAHr NiMH cells from Digi-Key.  So
far these are the best rechargeables I've tried.  They're the type
without projecting end caps, but work fine with the contact arrangement
in the palmtops.  A very nice thing about these is that - unlike any
other reghargeables I"ve used - the usable discharge cycle has gotten
longer with each charge.  The first time I got 9.9 hours, the last
cycle was 11.7 hours.  This is discharging to 2.37V as shown by
Battlog.  No warnings.

There is some depression in the maximum voltage reached in charging.
The first time they hit 2.89, last time stalled at 2.80   According to
the Panasonic tech manual, this is expected when cells aren't
discharged below 1.1V per cell.  The good news is that the predicted
possible decrease in capacity isn't happening (so far).  Just the
opposite, in fact  8-)

Later


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NT can be administered via several command line tools that allow most
functions that can be accomplished from the GUI to be done from the command
line.  PERL scripting works well, or you can install a telnet server
(Microsoft was distributing a beta version for a while) for remote admin.
Also, many of the services of a NT box can be remotely administered from
other NT machines using the same tools that would be used locally.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Hansen İmailto:khansen@NJCC.COM¨
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 5:04 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft


This is a very silly thread!

Red Hat Linux may or may not be the "most popular Unix"
(Ignoring for the moment that Linux =! Unix) - but it only
defaults to GUI *if* you load the *optional* X WIndows
software...

Win2K without GUI -  how do you adminster it - remotely,
from another machine that *does* have the GUI installed?

Sorry, couldn't take it any more...

Ken
kahsnen@njcc.com

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>You're wrong. The most popular Unix system, RedHat 6.0, defaults to run X
Windows. Microsoft Windows 2000 (aka NT5) can boot without the GUI.

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Patrick,

> two SE records the drive and location of wp and itself.  So
> if it is installed to D:\sx and WP51 is at C:\wp51 then you
> tried to run them from C:\wp51 and C:\SX it will fail with
> an error.  SE also won't run from drive A. So I have my A
> drive id itself as drive E and ran all the install to a
> desktop drive E.

> Another problem is if I run WP a couple of different times,
> without rebooting, it will from time to time lockup the
> machine on wp startup. Since it is on startup I just make it
> a point to have everything closed prior to running wp51.
>
> There are a couple of tsrs that can conflict with SE but
> since I use maxdos to run it I just make sure they are
> loaded after maxdos so it moves them out the way.

I think I will try SE again.  I run WP under  Software Carousel but if
I run into other problems, I'll try it with maxdos.

Thanks for your help.

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Helmuth,

> My experience is, to avoid further problems, to reboot after using it,
> which is not a problem for me. Although I don't like these kinds of
> reboots.
>
> During opreation I hadn't had any problems so far.

It's good to hear that you have not had problems after rebooting.  I
will try SE again and see how much rebooting I can tolerate.  Sure is
nice to see underlining, bolding, etc.

Thanks for your help.

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I am trying PIM (thanks to Andreas for his great programs) I get
"Divide error".  The gui screen for PIM does show up but I get the
divide error message appears.  I tried unloading all my tsrs and tried
to run it directly from Dos (without SC, pure dos).  Still get the
divide error.  Does anyone know what I am doing wrong??

Thanks,

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Hi there,

I would like to share my experience with others which lives outside USA
and are thinking about order any PC products from Hardwarestreet.

8 months ago, I and some friends placed an order for 5 pcs of the Accton
EN2216-1 Ethernetcard. We recieved a confirmation that the order was
under process. Then weeks started to become months and still no cards
received. So we started to send them e-mail asking nicely what's going
on. Despite of 20 nice and polite messages, not a single reply!

Finally, after 6 months they decided to give us a reply and said that
they where sorry but the order has been lost in the system and will
immidiately be corrected. No package showed up and we send them e-mail
asking what is the problem. 8 nice and polite e-mails and 2 months
later- we finally got a reply!

However, the only information we got was that "sorry but our supplier do
not deliver this equipment outside USA since it's against federal law".
The law- my foot! When did an Accton ethernet card become a a high
security issue? Talking about the worse customer service I have ever
exerienced or even heard about!!! Placed an order and 8 months later get
this kind of excuse.

So if you don't live in USA and want to order some PC products over the
net- forget Hardwarestreet. They STINKS!!!!

Regards,


Jorgen

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> I get that way when I play Ten Thousand and the computer gets three times
> 2000 all the time :-)
>
> I've often suspected the program of "helping" the computer player whenever
> the human player is winning too much ;-)

I have always been suspecting this. I never succeed in improve
the 43%/57% human/computer win-ratio

Reinhard



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Hi,

What could be more appropriate than playing an ancient game on
our ancient machines?
There is a nice Go-program called "igo" which runs well on the
Hp200lx. Sorry, I cannot provide you with an URL at the moment,
but it is a very common go-program and should not be to hard to
find on the web.

There is also a tutorial included. The rules of the games are
very simple, but the gameplay is very difficult, maybe
comparable to chess.

Some tips:

Make sure to toggle the screen display with on+/ (I am still
searching for a program which keeps the screen inverted
automatically). So black will be black and white will be white
on the screen.

You can play on larger boards and on a higher level by calling
the program with parameters. Enter "igo -h" to see the
parameters.

Reinhard



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Hello,

does someone know sources that deal more specifically with the HP Calc
and HP Solve applications? I know Thaddeus has some (a few years old),
and HP has some related to the 17BII and 19BII calculators. Any more
books, magazines, web pages that deal with this?

Thanks
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Daniel,

> I just upgraded my 200 LX 4MB to Double Speed and 6 MB.
> It's amazing! It works all correctly and it's all so fast!!

Congratulations. Welcome to the DSMB club (Double Speed
MegaByte)...

It feels terrific and scary all at the same time. And the
eyeballs have to get into these tiny tiny hair-like spots! :)

I had a hard time doing the DS change, but 32MB and 64MB were
easier.

Congratulations!

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Just found thought might be of interest for
bookmarking.

http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm

Regards.......Liam
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Alan Peres wrote:
> The PE.CFG  section refers to a file cur.pim but that file is not in the
> pim.zip file.

That file is supposed to be YOUR data.

> Is it supposed to be created automatically

If you open PE and use Shift-F6 to access CUR.PIM, add something to it
and then press F10 to save it, it will be created.

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Anand Rao wrote:
> Andreas,
>
> What is the future plan for this software? Do you plan to release a
> commercial version soon?

No commercial version planned at the moment. The "problem" is that it
is not an "easy to use" application, but a hard to get used to / highly
efficient power user tool. It would require LOTS of support, which
would make it so expensive that hardly anybody would buy it. That's why
it is unsupported freeware at the moment. Development continues though,
because there is at least one very active user who has lots of
influence on the author: me! <G>

Andreas

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Has anybody else had problems getting PGP to work with the new PE?

I have no problems to use PGP with PE, even out of POST/LX (when using
MaxDOS. The new PE requires a bit more memory for the PIM stuff. Maybe
you can remove some unneeded TSR to get some more memory? Or you ask
our "chief designer". He would be even able to run a 600k HV so this
should be a simple problem for him to solve ;-)

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I'm just glad we weren't called to do CPR on the serial port.

- Longden





Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> on 07/01/99 06:36:11 PM

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Mack,

FYI, on that palmtop left in the car, I am told by the user that he was able
to revive with a hard reset and the #2 boot option.  The List has actually
saved a palmtop from death due to heat exhaustion!

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Mack Baggette wrote: <snip>
> ..there are several known problems with the power supplies
> on the motherboard,.....

Mack
Is there some sort of inverter in there as I have 2 palmtops
dead where they just shut off - even on mains power - and the
"on time" becomes shorter & shorter until it never goes again
<sad pause>
I mention "inverter" because there was a hi-pitched inverter
type noise that wavers as the power dies.

I have a few questions:
-Can it be fixed with off the shelf components?
-is there a circuit diagram available?
-can it be repaired by the experts?
-at what cost?

Cheers
John
NZ

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Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> Am I the only person that when playing Freecell gets so darn frustrated that
> he could just smack something? Is there a users group that I can join that
> is for frustrated players?
>
Hi Jeff
When I get stuck in solving freecell(v2.7 game 425 random) I push "q"
and
come back later. Then I reverse back to the beginning & start again on
another tack. They have all worked out so far although some have taken
several starts to complete.

Just dont start playing as you are about to arrest someone :-)

Cheers
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Donald Collins wrote:
>
> Are there any pics on the net showing the brass fitting used to prevent the
> crack?  I'd like to make one but just cant seem to visualize it by the
> descriptions.
>
Hi Don.
If you havn't got the crack, I feel there is no need to mess up your
case
with the glue & brass plate... Best to loosten a tight hinge with
lubricant
rather than abuse it with extra hardware. if the hinge isn't tight then
it
won't crack!

My 3rd 200LX has the crack (SG724..) and it is fixed with superglue -
not
that ugly! Warranty would take a week so naturally I chose to live with
the crack.

It is interesting that it's a totally different plastic moulding from my
previous 200LX that died of power supply failure + bad screen (SG430..)
The UnCracked case has the wording in the area where the serial No is
that
starts "CE94" in strongly imprinted letters.(purchased in New Zealand)
Similar to my uncracked 100LX (SG410..starting "CE93" with PS fault)

The Cracked model has faint/light lettering that starts "NOM-1" and was
purchased in the USA. Both say "made in singapore".

"If it aint broke - don't fix it!"

cheers
John
NZ

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I must had miss that statement, but it really works, though slooowwww
I like the setup, it is easy, all GUI very friendly.
I believe that Rod Whitby's Toolkit will be better, but the word "toolkit"
scares me :-) Well, I'll give it a try. Actually, I don't expect to surf the
web on 200LX, but showing it off makes me feel good :¬)
ccLXPOP is good enough for me (at  least for now).

Roger S.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Quicken 3 for DOS, runs in less than 700K


> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Andrew King wrote:
> The bad news is that Intuit says Quicken 3 is not Y2K compliant.  I don't
> know specifically what the problem is, but it would be a good idea to find
> out before putting all your data into it.  <g>

Does anyone know if quicken 4 for windows (the last version known to work
directly with palmtop quicken) is Y2K compliant?  I assume palmtop quicken
is compliant, right?

Domingo

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Death from natural causes?


As for
> unnatural causes of palmtop failures, there are several known problems
with
> the power supplies on the motherboard, a screen cable issue, and the hinge
> crack of course that come to mind.  Two of those items are of course usage
> related, but unavoidable in some palmtops and not usually due to misuse

Thanks for your input.  Would the power supply problem have something to do
with battery charging on the palmtop? Would be fact that I seldom connect
the palmtop to an outlet, and never use it for charging, be a plus for the
power supply issue?

Could you elaborate on the screen cable issue as it relates to usage (or is
it not a normal usage problem, but caused by opening the palmtop too wide?

Thanks for the information.

Domingo

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Okay, I took a look at the excellent close-up of the hinge crack on Mitch
Hamm's website.  Now I finally know what everyone's been gabbing about for
years.  For years, I lived in fear and neurosis, constantly checking my
palmtop for the dreaded crack.  Where would it be?  When would it be?  How
would I feel?  Should I feel left out?

C'mon.  I've had a 100 and 200 LX that I've carried with me and used every
day.  NO HINGE CRACK, GUYS!  I mean, how does this happen?  How can this
POSSIBLY happen?  What do you do?  Sit on it? Bounce it off the wall in place
of a Spalding?  Lend it to the dog as a toy?  Pry it open with a screwdriver
instead of using the latch?  How can you crack this thing? The machine is
built like a rock.  You could step on the damn machine and still not crack
that lid. (Don't ask me to prove this <g>)  Fess up!  You're carrying it in
your back pockets, aren't you?  You're all a bunch of fall-down drunks?  The
wife beats you?  I mean, what is this?

-roger-

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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:55:25 +0800, Roger Shea <rogerswn@ctimail.com> =
wrote:

> I'd tried a program called "Arachne". It is a graphic browser, support =
ftp,
> pop e-mail & etc. It does work, but like clawing on my Single speed 2M =
200LX
> with 48M CF. May be someone on the list with more memory and DS want to =
try
> it.

It runs pretty good on my 2X LX. The setup was surprisingly easy and it
worked the very first time I dialed. The CGA display doesn't display some
items properly, but IMHO it's about 85-90% correct as far as screen =
usage. I
just signed up for the Arachne mailing list (good Lord, more email <g>).
It's hard to believe that someone would put this much work into something
then not charge anything for it.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
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           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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I think MS Works 2.0 does a print preview.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

"Nancy A. Barker" wrote:

> Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
> on the 200lx? I have Word 5.5, but it won't allow it
> on the lx, only on my laptop. I assume it needs more
> than CGA. I tried several shareware for a while but
> couldn't find anything. Any help?
>
> tia,
> n.
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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>I'd tried a program called "Arachne". It is a graphic browser,
support ftp,
>pop e-mail & etc. It does work, but like clawing on my Single speed
2M 200LX
>with 48M CF. May be someone on the list with more memory and DS want
to try
>it. The address is:
>www.arachne.sk
>It is free for personal and non-commercial use. The zipped file is
about
>900k,

On the site it advises VGA/SVGA display, does it work in CGA?


Regards....Liam
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Message text written by Joseph J. Kaelin
>I use scheme on the HP200
(specifically PC-Schme/Geneva, obtainable with ftp from
cui.unige.ch/pcs).<

Thanks, Joseph. =


I've tried the version of Scheme that you mentioned--even ordered the TI
scheme book from Amazon.   I've seen versions of Eliza written in scheme.=
 =


However, PC-Therapist is a standalone program, probably written in C.  PC=
T
is supposedly a heuristic program that learns as it runs.  Joseph S.
Weintraub apparently won the Loebner prize three years in a row with
similar programs. =


.ed.

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Message text written by INTERNET:Feinmanr@AOL.COM
>However, even a CD-ROM consisting
solely of the final distributed versions of the software would be of
interest.
<

I think you will find that the CD-Infobase from Thaddeus Computing contai=
ns
99% of all the freeware, shareware, and Give-aware that is available for
the LX as of the release date a few months ago.  This includes a bonus CD=

crammed full with Guttenburg e-texts. =

As with any CD, there are always new products that appear after the burn.=

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Hi David

Thursday, July 01, 1999, you wrote to the list:


DS> The bad news is that Intuit says Quicken 3 is not Y2K compliant.  I don't
DS> know specifically what the problem is, but it would be a good idea to find
DS> out before putting all your data into it.  <g>

I hate to ask this (because I'm afraid of the answer) but do you know
if Pocket Quicken on the 200 is Y2K compliant?




TIA,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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"Outlock!"  LOL!

Larry Mittell

At 09:09 PM 7/1/99 +0100, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
use the PIM's?
>
>Yes. First download PE, then get curious about the PIM stuff, or wait
>until you have a corrupted appointment book or want to exchange
>appointments with a PalmPilot or Outlock or so... then
>download PIM.ZIP. <G>

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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Robert,

I replied privately to your post. But while I was reading what you said, some
ideas came to me. Here they are...

This is about how to proceed with a browser. I am avoiding using HV, because I
do not know that it will be the right vehicle.

1. let's wait and see what the survey says. I posted to Al a few more
questions that I think should be included to give the "browser producers" more
info.

2. I think this is a huge project. It took thousands of hours since inception
to bring HV to where it is, so that'll give you an indication what we are
talking about. HV uses PAL, which took several thousands of hours too, and
saved a lot in HV development.

3. There are three areas involved in the browser: development, maintenance,
and support.

Development: Long and difficult work. Many specs to be researched. Design
decisions must be made about included/excluded features. APIs must be
developed.

Maintenance: includes the ongoing chase after the new doodads and googaws.
This can be a substantial effort on an on going basis.

Support: How to use it, how to solve problems, how to fix problems.

4. I doubt we (D&A) can raise the resources for development, but we can
contribute to them. The remainder must come from elsewhere. I therefore
propose that the browser development model would follow the Linux development
project.

This means some strong talents, and strong commitments to this public product.
Without a strong committment, nothing will move.

5. Maintenance can turn out to be the killer here. There are a lot of new
googaws coming on all the time. They must be researched, understood, and
presented to the community, then developed, if desired. This requires the same
level of committment, but on an ongoing basis.

6. Supporting this product will have to be done publicly. Or perhaps some
model for pay-for-support can be employed. Support is incredibly expensive, I
know the figures.

7. To the extent that Linux is successful, so can "The Browser" be. I don't
kow if there is enough ooomph in this community to lift it, maybe too small,
maybe not enough techies? I don't really have a good grip on who is who in the
list. (Well, I found out about of person who called my hotel last night - he
seems like a talent! :-¨ Hi Chris!)

8. API: Well, Next week Andreas and I will talk. This is one of many topics. I
think that it must be to have public APIs in the public product. This would
leave the possibility of several TCP/IP engines. What I mean: Say the browser
has published APIs. That means that we can adjust WWW.EXE to work with it, and
other products can do the same. (Rod? Steve? - is this correct?) This would
instantly put a mix of products on our palmtops, with relative strengths and
weaknesses, so we can tailor the use to our own requirements.

Anyway, these are my thoughts about this... I hope this will make people
think. I have to say, that the public browser idea makes me happy for the
first time in this entire thread. At least on first glance it looks like
something good...

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:46:28 -0400
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On a previous post, I asked two questions.

1.  What language is TODO written in?  The answer was C.
    It was also stated that the source was available at the web site.
However,
    when I visit the web site, it is 90% unrecognizable characters.

2.  Can you run it on the PC (using CPACK or other program).  No answer.

Any thoughts on either question?

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:43:04 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> When I was youger I developed the theory that you get
> *wetter* if you run - it goes something like this:

> (Hey, I was 11 at the time, but I still think it is right)

There was some study of this in the last two or three years.  It may
have originated here in Seattle or at least got good air time.  It was
walking v running in the rain.  But actually, I don't recall the
results.

But my own analysis bicycle commuting thru DENSE DRIZZLE the other morning
18 miles shows that I could not have gotten any wetter than I did!!!!
(sigh)  (the hp stayed dry in the rear carrier luggage and makes a great
bike commute computer)

Rain, rain, go away...........

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:42:51 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Oops -- Yesterday, I did my usual steps to update my Appt Book from Outlook,

First, make another copy of your appt file or backup.

There is an UNDO option under the EDIT submenu.  You can try that on
either the main file or the backup or copy you made.  Good luck.

Or, yes, you can open the file in MEMO and tediously cut/paste info to a
new appt file.  Yes, memo can open the file but not use the info in any
database-type of way.  And if you save it, appt will not be able to
re-use it.  So work with a backup or copy.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:42:04 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Please folks, no offense is intended for the following remarks.

The original poster complained about reaching 100 posts per day.

Another poster objected to limits on discussion.

I agree partially with both positions.

I think 100 posts a day is excessive when so many are way off-topic or just
the kind of "bantering" you'd expect in chat rooms.

(Perhaps I just can't scan email and press delete as fast as some folks.
Guess I'm just afraid I'll miss something useful.)

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind 100 plus posts each day if they are
on-topic or even if they are somewhat related and provide useful
information to someone, even if it's not me.

Another poster commented that "I suggest just downloading the subjects and
then only get the bodies of messages that you actually want to read."
Sounds great, but have you noticed how recently the off-topic stuff
frequently has an on-topic subject due to the ping-pong emails back and
forth until several generations later there is absolutely no relationship
to the subject. (Wow, what a sentence!)

OK, now I'll slink off and go back to lurking!

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At 10:24 AM 6/30/99 -0500,  a follow-up poster wrote:
>
>But please don't try and limit people's discussion because you find it
>inconvenient.  If you have a problem, deal with it yourself by getting a
better
>email program or some other solution.  You should'nt preasure others to
conform
>to your expectations.
>
>Don.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>We have just reached a `list-hold' limit of 100 posts again.
>
>I, for one, do not really want to deal with much more than 100 posts
>on this list in a day. Nice as the 200 may be, it actually isn't
>worth it to me.
>

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:39:17 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: HP's and Fountain Pens
Comments: To: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Couldn't resist - I too bought slide rules from this place - excellent
service. Apparently they found several cartons of new-in-box slide rules in
a warehouse in Singapore and that is their main supply source. And of
course, I use nothing but fountain pens and pencil, and resort to
ball-point pens only to fill out those Immigration and Customs forms when I
travel.

At 05:28 PM 01-07-1999 Thursday -0500, Alan Peres wrote:
>Avi
>
>If you really want more slide rules, check out
>www.sphere.bc.ca/test/sruniverse.html.
>
>A recent article in the New York Times highlighted this site.
>
>According to the profile, the site owner has the world's largest collection
>of unused slide rules for sale.
>
>Apparently he has made $3,000 to $6,000 per month over the past 18 months.
>
>Now that I reflect on that fact, maybe there is a life for the HP into the
>future!
>
>I too am a fountain pen user, and I use a  1 meg HP100. Maybe I should also
>buy a couple of slide rules to fill out my profile <g>
>
>Alan
>
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:40:13 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: TECH:  palm won't come on
Comments: To: "HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> Stan Treanor"
          <treanor@camalott.com>
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I had a similar problem after not using a spare palmtop for several months.

Here's some suggestions (I assume no responsibilty for failure or palmtop
destruction!):

First, replace that backup battery.

Second, try pressing Control-Shift-On.

Third, remove and re-insert all batteries again.  If necessary, repeat step 2.

Fourth, remove all batteries and put it aside a few days before trying it
again.

Fifth, send it to Thaddeus for repair.

Maybe someone else has suggestions.


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At 12:28 PM 6/30/99 -0500, Stan Treanor <treanor@camalott.com> wrote:
>Hi...need a little help.  I left my hp 200lx sitting under my car seat for
>10 days and when I returned to use it ...nothing happened.  So I put in two
>new AA batteries and still no response from the hp.  I'm figuring there is
>no need replacing the backup battery if the two AA bateries are new (???).
>Any Suggestions.
>
>Stan
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:24:59 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Just FYI

The game that Ed mentions below can be prevented by SMART consumers.  As
soon as you realize that a company has charged your credit card and has no
intention of shipping your product within a _reasonable_ time, get your
credit card issuer involved!  There is a certain (very low) percentage of
sales that a merchant is allowed to have in what are know as 'charge backs.'
If the merchant exceeds this percentage, then the merchants acquiring bank
or the credit card associations (MC/VISA etc.) can and will take away their
ability to accept credit cards.  It cost's a lot of money (relatively) for
the banks and associations to process these charge backs, and they don't
like to do it.  When the merchants charge back percentage gets too high, it
also singles them out as a high risk, and these credit card companies are
not into high risk!  The are into making lots of $$$!!!

For the most part, the consumer has more rights (in the beginning of a
dispute anyway) than the merchant has.  If a consumer disputes a charge,
it's up to the merchant to prove that the charge is valid.  If the merchant
can't prove that the charge is valid, then the consumer gets the money back,
and the merchant get the 'charge back.'

Sean



-----Original Message-----
From: John <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: BuyComp "Bashing"


>Ed,
>in the 70's when hi-tech referred to 'Video Recorders',and other filming
>tools..there was and may still be 47thStreetPhoto...advertised great
>pricing and drafted your card immediately; held your money for 45-60
>days(acruing interest alllllll  the time) and then either the price had
>come down to satisfy their advertisement; or by enlisting you credit card
>company you could receive a refund.
>
>A great way to use your money for 60 days and get that 'interest'...AN OLD
>GAME WITH NEW 'HONEY' TO LURE THE CASH...John

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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 2:14 AM
Subject: Seiko DPU-411 Portable Receipt Printer


>Anyone have any experience with these?
>
>Seiko DPU-411 Portable Receipt Printer


I have not used this printer specifically, but I have worked with a couple
of other thermal and dot matrix receipt printers, several of which I hooked
up to the HP.  It's usually just a matter of getting the serial cable and
the printers settings (baud rate, parity etc.) correct to make them print
plain text.

Sean

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Subject:      FLUFF :Re:New HP200's in the UK -Rain
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Interesting theory that probably everyone indulges in their childhood ....
However, there are several loose ends - for instance see what happens when
the speed becomes ZERO!

It's a holiday here as it's been two years since Hong Kong was handed over
to China,  family's away on vacation, so time for idle thoughts ....

Assumptions:
D = Rain Density =number of droplets in a unit volume
F = Front Area of the person
T = Top Area of the person
R = Terminal velocity of rain drops
S = Distance to be covered in the rain
P = Speed of the person running

Rain drops encountered on the front surface of the person = number of rain
drops in the volume of air displaced during the run = F*S. This is a
constant, independent of the speed. There is a reasonable approximation
here that the rain drops can be assumed to be fixed in space for this
specific calculation. Therefore, direction of the wind and relative
direction of rain drops falling with respect to the moving person are not
relevant. In any case it is a simple measure of the rain 'flux'.

Rain drops encountered on the top surface = T * height of the column of
rain that falls down during the time, i.e. T*R*S/P.
T,R and S are constant and therefore the extent of dunking is inversely
proportional to the speed.

Avi, what have you got yourself into - you want to go on a peaceful holiday
and yet have to deal with surly bus conductors, rain analysts, etc ....
Enjoy the rest of the holiday and say Hi! to the pigeons in Trafalgar Square.

Anand.




At 04:57 PM 01-07-1999 Thursday -0400, Ken Hansen wrote:
>When I was youger I developed the theory that you get
>*wetter* if you run - it goes something like this:
>
>Hold your hand up, as if you were taking a pledge, like
>in court.
>
>Now move your hand slowly, and imagine the rain falling
>*straight down* - water will only lang on your finger tips
>(shoulders/head)...
>
>Now move your hand faster, and not only will your fingertips
>get wet, but yor fingers will get wet too - you are now "walking
>into" the rain...
>
>(Hey, I was 11 at the time, but I still think it is right)
>
>Ken
>khansen@njcc.com
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:31:11 EDT
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Quicken 3 for DOS, runs in less than 700K
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In a message dated 7/1/99 4:30:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
king@CHARLIE.CNS.IIT.EDU writes:

> he good news is the copy of Quicken 3 for DOS that I found seems to
>  occupy less than 700 K.

The bad news is that Intuit does not stand behind the Y2K compliancy of
versions less than 5.  See http://www.intuit.com.

-roger-

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Somebody post a message about a HP200LX hinge crack fix.  Does anybody
> sugest a fix for a broken batery cover? (actualy just the two little plastic
> sticks that attach the cover to the palmtop body are broken)

For about $20 get the repair kit from HP (if still available).
It contains 2 each of all the small bits that can fall off or
break, including battery covers.

cheers... Russ

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Am I the only person that when playing Freecell gets so darn frustrated that
> he could just smack something? Is there a users group that I can join that
> is for frustrated players?

Jeff,
If you have to hit something, join a WinCE users group and do
your hitting on their machines, don't take it out on the LX!

cheers... Russ  :-)

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:52:26 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Death from natural causes? <G>

re: The List has actually saved a palmtop from death due to heat exhaustion!

Wow, next there will be palmtops rescued from trees, perhaps a
community-wide vigil while we dig a shaft next to a well to retrieve a
palmtop that has fallen in...

Can hostage situations be far away?

"NoBuddy <pun intended> move or the Palmtop gets it!"

Jeff, you may have some negotiating to do in the near future .... "OK, list
your demands and email them out through the palmtop, so we know it's OK."

A wee bit of humor for all ..... Break-time's over, back to
disgruntlement..... <small grin>.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:58:16 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Roger Feinman wrote:

> C'mon.  I've had a 100 and 200 LX that I've carried with me and used every
> day.  NO HINGE CRACK, GUYS!  I mean, how does this happen?  How can this
> POSSIBLY happen?  What do you do?  Sit on it? Bounce it off the wall in place
> of a Spalding?  Lend it to the dog as a toy?  Pry it open with a screwdriver
> instead of using the latch?  How can you crack this thing? The machine is
> built like a rock.  You could step on the damn machine and still not crack
> that lid. (Don't ask me to prove this <g>)  Fess up!  You're carrying it in
> your back pockets, aren't you?  You're all a bunch of fall-down drunks?  The
> wife beats you?  I mean, what is this?

In all honesty, Roger... I think you got lucky.  Some earlier units, it
appears, were made of a better grade material and also I hear that the
tooling started to degrade after the move to Singapore.

I've got three 200LXs... one older 1MB model with NO crack, one 2MB model
with crack, and a 4MB model with crack.  I can't speak for the 2MB model,
as I bought it used... but the other two have always been taken care of.
As a matter of fact, I bought my 4MB unit in Jan '97... and had the
beginnings of a crack by the end of May (I noticed it on my honeymoon).

Both of the cracked units have been repaired... and show no signs of
worsening.  The 4MB unit was repaired immediately, and the 2MB unit was
repaired when I saw it.  (I disassembled the units and glued the crack
with cyanoacrylate.)

Bill


Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:59:48 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Web surfing on HP200LX
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:22:14 +0800, "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU> =
wrote:

> On the site it advises VGA/SVGA display, does it work in CGA?

Yes, it's 'experimental' <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:12:46 -0700
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From:         Ripin Pen <ripin@DNET.NET.ID>
Subject:      LXB/batch questions

Hello,

I am trying to make a batch file by LXB to automate my epppd connection so that
I can use lxpop/cclxpop and cut-off the line automatically.  It sounds simple
to most of you but believe me that it is bit complicated for one who lives in a
country that connection line to intermet is rather limited like Indonesia.
In my case, I have 7 different tel numbers to try and no guarantee that you get
the connection on the first try.
My idea is to make a loop i.e. to ask computer to try each number and never
stops until it gets the connection and successfully load the packet driver.

My question is: what is the errorlevel if you can't get the line connected
AND/OR you get the line BUT fail in modem negotiation? (assume it has one).

TIA

Ripin
e-mail: ripin@dnet.net.id

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:20:21 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      GEM (was FLUFF: Rain and GEM)

I remember HATING parts of GEM!

I received it for free İw/ lots of other GEM programs¨ w/ something I bought
from the now defunct DAK İthose who remember that catalog sales company
remember a (former) GREAT place to find neat stuff (I feel old, now....
talking about GEM and DAK ... I'm not too old, just have been gadgeting for
awhile) Anyway, I intended this to be "on-topic"...

From what I remember there were two or three programs involved in Desk Top
Publishing İcan't think of the names off-hand¨. You *could* use the layout
program for your word crunching, but the word-processor was better (I think
it was the only one w/ spell check). You had to edit AND SIZE your graphics
in the graphics program; then you could pull them into the graphics layout
(DTP) program. THAT was the part I hated.  If I decided I wanted the graphic
a little larger/smaller, narrower, etc. I had to leave the layout program
and resize and save the graphic as a different file for import <ack!>. You
can imagine that the "heat of creativity" would often cool between the idea
and the resize!

I'll hunt around for old info on this <you'll hate me, but I *know* I just
dumped most of my GEM books into the trash ... I've been cleaning my garage
and......>. In the next few weeks, as the garage purge continues, I'll see
if any escaped the dumping craze.

BTW, it may take a few weeks but I may put some items up for sale -- they
will ALL be ancient and non-HP, like a TRS-80 <bought it used for $35, just
to see how it worked ... now it's a big doorstop> and some Tandy Model
100-type accessories. Will anyone here have any interest in such antiques,
or am I better served by turning some of them into fish tanks?  I think
schools, etc. would REFUSE most of my "donations" ;-)

--tim

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:36:49 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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From:         Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
Subject:      CC-Mail and MS-Exchange...
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Does anyone know if it is possible to use the palmtop cc-mail client for
connection to a Microsoft Exchange server?  There is a Lotus connector for
migration from CC-mail bundled with exchange 5.5 and I'm wondering if can
talk directly to clients also.

A second option (I know nothing about cc-mail, but a fair amount of exchange
and pop mail...) would be can the palm cc-mail client act as a POP client?

I'd like to use the built in app, but  am aware that other pop mail clients
are available for down load.

-Calvin

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:09:02 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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From:         Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hinge crack
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I know I've seen a site with pics, but I don't have the URL off hand.
I just wanted to say that my old lx got the hinge crack and I put on
some of those decorative brass corners that you can usually find at most
hardware stores. It was just a tad gawdy, but I liked the look!  Now I
have a new lx, and if I look closely I can see the beginnings of a hinge
crack. I'll probably be putting my brass corner treatment on it soon.
The cement I used was called 'Quick Weld' or something like that.

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Donald Collins İSMTP:dcollins@TRENDX.COM¨
        Sent:   Thursday, July 01, 1999 7:36 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Hinge crack

        Are there any pics on the net showing the brass fitting used to
prevent the
        crack?  I'd like to make one but just cant seem to visualize it
by the
        descriptions.

        Don.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:38:00 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Frustrations....
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Uh, I think what you are looking for is a *support* group, you
know, maybe one with, say, about a dozen steps or so...

You must learn to manage your rage better (since you may not
be able to improve your game!) ;¬)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 12:48 PM
Subject: Frustrations....


Am I the only person that when playing Freecell gets so darn frustrated that
he could just smack something? Is there a users group that I can join that
is for frustrated players?

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:07:47 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: New HP200's in the UK
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I guess that is correct, but the "run" suggestion assumes that
keeping dry is more important than safety. ;¬)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:09 PM
Subject: FLUFF: New HP200's in the UK


>the longer you stay in the rain.  So, you should run, because the overall
>wetness is less that way.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:14:21 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: How to fix a broken batery cover
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I'd be curoius about that kit (as a fix for *future* problems),
where can I find out about contents, price, and availability
of this kit?

Thanks in advance,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley A. Gall, Jr. <sagall@ibm.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: How to fix a broken batery cover


>Easy, Replace it with a new one.  Still available from HP as part of a kit
of
>replacement parts that includes rubber feet, bolts, IR cover

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:24:37 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF :Re:New HP200's in the UK -Rain
Comments: To: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.Super.NET>
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See below...

-----Original Message-----
From: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.Super.NET>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Ken Hansen
<khansen@NJCC.COM>; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:23 PM
Subject: FLUFF :Re:New HP200's in the UK -Rain


>Interesting theory that probably everyone indulges in their childhood ....
>However, there are several loose ends - for instance see what happens when
>the speed becomes ZERO!


I assumed that the rain was falling "straight down" (as unnatural as that
may be).

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:00:22 PDT
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              David Cripps <david_cripps@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         David Cripps <david_cripps@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Running in the Rain
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Dear all,

My Maths teacher at school was trying to formulate the optimum speed for
running in the rain.

If you ran at the speed of light, you would intercept the total volume of
water between you and your destination (your front surface area * distance *
rain density), whereas if you walked, you would spend longer, but not
collect that total volume, so there must be an optimum speed to run,
depending on the density of rain?

It sounds plausible, but could never formulate it (it was intigration with
density, speed, etc.)

Dave
Problem Solved, the Sun's out!!!

PS:
Avi Try Ticket master - will Email directly with more news, unfortunately my
Mother's 70 this weekend (the 4th) so several family functions are planned.
Happy Independence Day!


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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:38:58 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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bmoy@COMPUSERVE.COM Barbara L. Moy wrote:
> I am trying PIM (thanks to Andreas for his great programs) I get
> "Divide error".

Looks like a bug. Did you already set up PIM.CFG? Did you add at least
one appointment or task? I would assume that the most likely reason for
this to happen is if there is no data at all or if some settings in the
CFG are invalid.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:42:30 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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I agree, I started following this list 3 days ago to find out usefull
information regarding the effective use of my palm-top.  I'm surprised at
the HUGE amount of off-topic banter and debate going on, wouldn't it be
better to have a chat-board for that stuff?  I believe that www.xoom.com
offers to host web forums for free.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don E. Weatherly İmailto:weather@EXIS.NET¨
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:42 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit


Please folks, no offense is intended for the following remarks.

The original poster complained about reaching 100 posts per day.

Another poster objected to limits on discussion.

I agree partially with both positions.

I think 100 posts a day is excessive when so many are way off-topic or just
the kind of "bantering" you'd expect in chat rooms.

(Perhaps I just can't scan email and press delete as fast as some folks.
Guess I'm just afraid I'll miss something useful.)

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind 100 plus posts each day if they are
on-topic or even if they are somewhat related and provide useful
information to someone, even if it's not me.

Another poster commented that "I suggest just downloading the subjects and
then only get the bodies of messages that you actually want to read."
Sounds great, but have you noticed how recently the off-topic stuff
frequently has an on-topic subject due to the ping-pong emails back and
forth until several generations later there is absolutely no relationship
to the subject. (Wow, what a sentence!)

OK, now I'll slink off and go back to lurking!

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At 10:24 AM 6/30/99 -0500,  a follow-up poster wrote:
>
>But please don't try and limit people's discussion because you find it
>inconvenient.  If you have a problem, deal with it yourself by getting a
better
>email program or some other solution.  You should'nt preasure others to
conform
>to your expectations.
>
>Don.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>We have just reached a `list-hold' limit of 100 posts again.
>
>I, for one, do not really want to deal with much more than 100 posts
>on this list in a day. Nice as the 200 may be, it actually isn't
>worth it to me.
>

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:52:38 +0200
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              Daniel McDonough <dmcdcb@BUNT.COM>
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From:         Daniel McDonough <dmcdcb@BUNT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hinge crack hooey
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My 200 developed the crack a couple of weeks ago. I never abused it. I'm
sure that the talk about HP tightening the hinge in response to complaints
about lose hinges is correct. My 95 never developed the crack. It was
considerably looser. It saw heavy use. Some of the key labels had worn
off by the time I replaced it with my 200.

I decided to take it apart and glue it from the inside. If anyone tries
to do the same repair, be careful with the hinge mechanism. The internal
spring has a lot of energy and likes to hide on dark carpet. It seems
that I managed to do just enough damage putting it back together that
it is loose enough now that the crack won't return (I hope).

Daniel McDonough

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:53:07 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Wittkamper, John" <jwittkamper@V-ONE.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit
Comments: To: Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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I agree completely, I started several days ago and about 85% is for people
who need a life. They need their own list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Calvin Ledford İmailto:cledford@CW.NET¨
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 1:43 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit


I agree, I started following this list 3 days ago to find out usefull
information regarding the effective use of my palm-top.  I'm surprised at
the HUGE amount of off-topic banter and debate going on, wouldn't it be
better to have a chat-board for that stuff?  I believe that www.xoom.com
offers to host web forums for free.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don E. Weatherly İmailto:weather@EXIS.NET¨
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:42 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit


Please folks, no offense is intended for the following remarks.

The original poster complained about reaching 100 posts per day.

Another poster objected to limits on discussion.

I agree partially with both positions.

I think 100 posts a day is excessive when so many are way off-topic or just
the kind of "bantering" you'd expect in chat rooms.

(Perhaps I just can't scan email and press delete as fast as some folks.
Guess I'm just afraid I'll miss something useful.)

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind 100 plus posts each day if they are
on-topic or even if they are somewhat related and provide useful
information to someone, even if it's not me.

Another poster commented that "I suggest just downloading the subjects and
then only get the bodies of messages that you actually want to read."
Sounds great, but have you noticed how recently the off-topic stuff
frequently has an on-topic subject due to the ping-pong emails back and
forth until several generations later there is absolutely no relationship
to the subject. (Wow, what a sentence!)

OK, now I'll slink off and go back to lurking!

===============================================
At 10:24 AM 6/30/99 -0500,  a follow-up poster wrote:
>
>But please don't try and limit people's discussion because you find it
>inconvenient.  If you have a problem, deal with it yourself by getting a
better
>email program or some other solution.  You should'nt preasure others to
conform
>to your expectations.
>
>Don.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>We have just reached a `list-hold' limit of 100 posts again.
>
>I, for one, do not really want to deal with much more than 100 posts
>on this list in a day. Nice as the 200 may be, it actually isn't
>worth it to me.
>

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:00:50 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Rain and GEM
Comments: To: pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM
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Hi Paul,

> Living here in the Great Pacific Northwest I've had plenty
> of time to ponder this.....
> If your surface area remains the same, path through the rain
> remains the same and the rain density remains the same, then
> the only variable is time in the rain. Your velocity just
> determines what surface gets wettest.

I think you're wrong:

Imagine the following situation: It rains straight down. You stand in
the rain with velocity=0. What gets wet? Your head and your shoulders.

Now imagine, you run through the rain with velocity=infinite. What
happens (in the same time)? Only your 'fromt surface' gets wet, your
head and your shoulders keep dry.

--> All other situations must be somewhere between the two extremes, so
this means to me, the faster you run, the wetter you get (in the same
amount of time!).

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:20:36 -0700
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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I posted a brief note to the list About Scott having some
pcmcia sandisk 20 meg flash ram cards for sale at $40.00
each.

I spoke with him Thursday evening.  Seems when I mentioned
letting
the list members know and he said ok we had a
misunderstanding.

He thought I was talking about some local user's group. He
was totally freaked when he started getting e-mail from all
over including "down under".

Because he thought it was a local user's group he assumed
folks would telephone and so didn't mention his impending
ISP switch.


So he & I talked last night.  First he said he had no idea
how to go about selling to people out of the local area.
Second he was worried that he would send someone something
and never get paid.

So here is his new e-mail address. merlin523@effectnet.com

I suggested, as he doesn't want even think about the
paperwork for export,  he simply say he'd only sell to the
people in the USA .

I suggested he ask for a money order for the price of the
card and a fixed amount for shipping.

So he has 10 cards that are 20 meg each. He wants $40.00
each plus shipping.

I'm happy with the deal I got but I also live nearby so it
was easy for me.

Scott's phone number is 503-533-8463 He lives in Hillsboro,
Or. a suburb of Portland, Or. I've forgotten his last name
(Moore?).

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:37:20 -0500
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From:         Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
Subject:      HP 200LX - HP Calc and Solve
Comments: To: Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE
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There is a file on SUPER (http://www.palmtop.net) called SLVR_HLP.ZIP with some
info for starters.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
Hello,

does someone know sources that deal more specifically with the HP Calc
and HP Solve applications? I know Thaddeus has some (a few years old),
and HP has some related to the 17BII and 19BII calculators. Any more
books, magazines, web pages that deal with this?

Thanks
Norbert

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:47:08 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Rain and GEM
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Imagine the following situation: It rains straight down. You stand in
> the rain with velocity=0. What gets wet? Your head and your shoulders.

Okay, that does it.  I'm posting the entire article, and the
physicist's calculations, to www.hplx.net as soon as I get home.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:17:29 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Reİ2¨: Quicken 3 for DOS, runs in less than 700K
Comments: To: Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@bellsouth.net>
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Jack LaRosa wrote:

> I hate to ask this (because I'm afraid of the answer) but do you know
> if Pocket Quicken on the 200 is Y2K compliant?

Yes, all of the built-in apps in the 200LX are Y2K compliant.  Doubtless
there are plenty of DOS applications that can be run on it that AREN'T y2k
compliant, but all of the built-in apps are compliant.

I have heard, though, that the 200LX is not Y2038 compliant.

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Calvin Ledford wrote:

> I agree, I started following this list 3 days ago to find out usefull
> information regarding the effective use of my palm-top.  I'm surprised
> at the HUGE amount of off-topic banter and debate going on, wouldn't
> it be better to have a chat-board for that stuff?  I believe that
> www.xoom.com offers to host web forums for free.

Um, no, that would be much more inconvenient, and most of the subscribers
to the list wouldn't go there.

Most of the off-topic stuff is labeled FLUFF: in the subject line.  If
not, it should be, and it is very easy to turn off delivery of FLUFF:
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Rain and GEM
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, David Sargeant wrote at 11:47 AM 7/2/99
-0700
>Okay, that does it.  I'm posting the entire article, and the
>physicist's calculations, to www.hplx.net as soon as I get home.

For the final word on rain and running, I direct your collective attention
to http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_395.html which is a Cecil Adams
"Straight Dope" column from 1992 in which he lays the issue to rest once
and for all (Hint: he has experimental evidence!)

        C.

--
"I think tradition is what endures.  I'm partial to the erotic like having
a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river.  The
river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
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                while judging on "Iron Chef"

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:24:21 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Wittkamper, John wrote:

> I agree completely, I started several days ago and about 85% is for
> people who need a life. They need their own list.

That's a good way to make friends.  Join a new list and insult people.

I notice your post (definitely not about the 200LX at all!) was not
labeled with FLUFF: in the subject line.  Please do so in the future.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:48:07 -0400
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              Davis Chapel <chapel@CLIFFHANGER.COM>
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Does anyone know of a utility that turns an exm into an exe (to run
independent of sysman)?  There doesn't seem to be anything like this on
palmtop.net or in the SDK utilities.

Regards,
davis

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:56:46 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Get files from a 100LX
Comments: To: TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.4.05.9907011604370.1774-100000@margay.noc.ucla.edu>;
              from TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN on Thu, Jul 01,
              1999 at 04:06:53PM -0700
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1999-07-01-23:06:53 TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN:
> > I tuned in late; are you talking about the Filer protocol?  Andreas Garzotto
> > has already written a package called "lxtools" (which I've added to.)  Works
> > pretty good.  I use it all the time.
> >
> > I also wrote "lxbackup" using Andreas Garzotto's library.  It does
> > incremental backups from the HP to your unix/linux box.
>
> What about those of us who are want to use be able to port information to
> other platforms (e.g. Amiga) and can't use any of the current programs?
> Personally, I'd love to be able to transfer easily between one obscure
> platform to another.  ;¬)

Again, if you're talking about the filer protocol, lxtools would be a good
starting point; it's written in C, and compiles on various Unix flavours with
little problem; I'd guess it'd be easier to port that to an Amiga than to try
to start from scratch.

-Bennett

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:18:59 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      In search of...  2216HP.ZIP
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  David Sargeant's FAQ on using the Accton ethernet card with an LX is a
great help for people wanting to link into their home or company networks.
Or rather, it would be a great help if one could find all the files he
lists.  One file in particular, 2216HP.ZIP, apparently can't be found
anywhere except NiftyServe, which many (most?) of us have no way of
accessing...

  Anyone want to give me a clue where/how one can obtain this mystical file?

  Thanks,
       ... JLS

  PS:  Before everyone points it out, yes, I know 2216HP.ZIP is only needed
to link into a Win95 network.  That is what I need....

  PPS:  The first person who suggests I move to Japan gets plonked...  :¬)

 --
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              Jonathan Teich <jteich@MEDIAONE.NET>
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I guess that would have worked if I'd done it right away.  But it didn't
work on the copied file -- the restore appears to be only one-level
deep, and perhaps I must have done some other transaction that popped
the "Remove" off the list. Or maybe the Undo transaction is stored in
the app itself, and in that case, the subsequent actions I did on other
appt book files superseded it).

Anyone have other ideas before I go to the brute-force-it-in-Memo
option?

Thanks.
----------------------
> Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:42:51 +0000
> From:    "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> Subject: Re: HP200LX Appt Book restore?

> First, make another copy of your appt file or backup.

> There is an UNDO option under the EDIT submenu.  You can try that on
> either the main file or the backup or copy you made.  Good luck.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:48:39 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit

> Another poster commented that "I suggest just downloading the subjects and
> then only get the bodies of messages that you actually want to read."
> Sounds great, but have you noticed how recently the off-topic stuff
> frequently has an on-topic subject due to the ping-pong emails back and
> forth until several generations later there is absolutely no relationship
> to the subject. (Wow, what a sentence!)
>
> OK, now I'll slink off and go back to lurking!
>

If you read one message with a subject of X and it is off topic, TO
YOU, then I would suggest NOT reading any further messages with
subject X. That way you will probably not miss anything and you will
not have to read all these off topic messages. Works great for me.
That also allows those of us who might WANT to read those messages to
do so.

Pete

PS. Techincally YOUR message was TOTALLY off topic, not one mention
of anything hplx related. :-)


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Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:50:41 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit

> I agree completely, I started several days ago and about 85% is for people
> who need a life. They need their own list.
>

You just started at a busy time, don't worry sone this list will
return to the low volume it normall has and in the interim feel free
to NOT read messages that are not interesting to YOU and I will do
the same.

Pete

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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit
Comments: To: "Wittkamper, John" <jwittkamper@V-ONE.COM>
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:53:07 -0400, Wittkamper, John wrote:

>I agree completely, I started several days ago and about 85% is for =
people
>who need a life. They need their own list.

It's not helped by people who re-quote a 50/60 line article and add a =
mere
two lines of text of their own. Please folk, do make an effort to trim =
the
extraneous stuff before hitting the send button. It will make it easier =
for
everyone.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:27:31 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF :Re:New HP200's in the UK -Rain
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In a message dated 7/2/1999 12:00:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET writes:

> Assumptions:

Unstated Assumptions:
1.  The person does not have the sense to come in out of the rain.
2.  The person doesn't have a decent hat with a brim.
3.  The person isn't wearing a slicker, or even a plastic garbage bag.
4.  The person is not Gene Kelly, because then you'd have to calculate the
effect of all those retakes of "Singin' in the Rain."

    8¬)

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:35:08 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: ToDo.exm - Can you run it on the PC?
Comments: To: Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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> 1.  What language is TODO written in?  The answer was C.
>     It was also stated that the source was available at the web site.
> However,
>     when I visit the web site, it is 90% unrecognizable characters.

Japanese.

> 2.  Can you run it on the PC (using CPACK or other program).  No answer.

No.

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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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David,

> Avi Try Ticket master -

thanks.

> unfortunately my
> Mother's 70 this weekend (the 4th) so several family functions are planned.

Not unfortunate at all - Congratulations David's Mother!!!

> Happy Independence Day!

Feels strange to celebrate it in the maw of the former rulers!

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:34:57 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Robert,

The way you use the machine sounds like a gruellin schedule
for it. I bet it just yawns at the task! :-) My schedule is
similar in that I use the palmtop usually about 14+ hours per
day, every day.

If I understand right what you correctly, you simply _always_
charge, because the batteries are always at a lower voltage.
With NiMH it is no problems, because they are not particularly
prone to suffering from overcharge.

I want to offer three comments:

1. You may want to change from charging to trickle charging.
This has the effect of pushing 45ma to the battery instead of
100ma. The issue is not the batteries so much as the circuit
on the palmtop constantly working at the high load.

It is possible that the battery will still be always "topped
off" while less heat is generated in the circuits.

Set it up then for one minute charge, then all time put into
trickling. In terms of voltages, use the same.

Still, many people hold that it is good to discharge the
battery from time to time waaaay down. This easy to do if you
have two pairs. Once a month, swap them and the batteries you
want to discahrge put in a flashlight or something like that.

2. At the risk of losing a sale to the original person who
asked to compare Battlog and ABC/LX, your method can basically
be implemented directly in the palmtop with no programs. That
is simply check the "enable charging" and just let is all
happen. It'll charge for 6 hours at 100ma then trickle
indefinitely at 45ma. You won't have an indication of voltage
in the battery (provided by ABC/LX) nor of time used on the
battery since last charge (also provided by ABC/LX) but if you
are a purist, that may not be a big item. If this scheme is
sufficient, forget ABC/LX! Forget any battery monitoring.
Battlog is priced right :-) ...

What will happen though is about what Robert does, the battery
will always charge at max for six hours then trickle. It you
pull the adapter out for one minute, it will restart that 6
hours 100ma, the trickle. It will overheat batteries. It will
overheat the circuit.

In some circumstances it won't fully charge the NiMH batts, if
you deplete them faster than what they accumulate in 6 hours
of 100ma plus whatever with 45ma. It is possible to not have
sufficiently charged batteries with the potential disaster.

3. My scheme is similar to yours, but I use a lower start
point, so at about 2.53V I start charging. In my experience,
that usually leaves me enough charge almost always to do what
I need to do without an adapter. I.e. when my battery shows
253 or higher, I have all the charge in it I need to accomplish
what I need without needing a charge. Occasionally it gets
close and a little hairy, but rarely.

That means that my palmtop does not always charge, i.e. less
heat in the circuits and in the battery, i.e. longer life for
both.

The art is to find that magical point. For me it is 2.53 with
_that_ specific set of batteries and hardware. For you, the
magical number might be different. ABC/LX allows you to find
the point and tweak it just so.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:39:09 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Batch File: rename files incrementally

Would anyone happen to have a batch file which can suck in all the
filenames in a directory and rename them numerically?

For example, directory has 50 files with a wide variety of names.  The
batch file is run and all the files are renamed to 1.txt ... 50.txt.

Larry Zimmerman

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Laurence,

I had a "disappointing" experience ordering from the US.

Some people are lucky with UK customs and their goods pass
straight through. I got charged 10% import duty on the goods,
then 17.5% VAT on the goods AND the import duty. I was
especially annoyed as one of the items was a VAT exempt book -
don't bother trying to argue with them!

Of course the above charges are correct (not sure about the
book though) but do allow for this possibility when comparing
prices. And allow an extra week while customs hold everything
up.


Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> I am about to purchase a 48MB Sandisk Compact flash card from BuyComp, =
well
> I was until I saw this posting. Are they really that bad? If so, can =
anybody
> recommend an alternative supplier with comparable prices to BuyComp =
($95 for
> 48MB).
>
> I am based in the UK but was planning on buying from a US supplier as =
the
> prices are so much cheaper than over here.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:14:41 -0400
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Fri,  2 Jul 1999 18:10:07 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

        Another successful instal of ARCHANE on the LX! Works, but
pretty slow (going out for a cup of coffee often)! I haven't been
able to get images to load yet. Does seem to support frames...too bad
the toolbar takes up half the screen ;-)...something else to play with
this weekend...not ready to give away my copy of WWW/LX/HV yet.

Cheers,


*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:14:56 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      FLUFF: Running in the rain

> > Happy Independence Day!
>
> Feels strange to celebrate it in the maw of the former rulers!
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

Go ahead, make a big deal out of at and see if you can get yourself
permanently thrown out of the country. :-)

Or you could try the braindead tourist route and go around asking
people where the fireworks are for the 4th. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:17:02 +0800
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              "Roger S." <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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By pressing the F5, you can reduce the tool bar a little, so it only take=
 up
1/3 of the screen.

Roger S.
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=A5D=A6=AE: Arachne V1.5b2


> Fri,  2 Jul 1999 18:10:07 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>         Another successful instal of ARCHANE on the LX! Works, but
> pretty slow (going out for a cup of coffee often)! I haven't been
> able to get images to load yet. Does seem to support frames...too bad
> the toolbar takes up half the screen ;-)...something else to play with
> this weekend...not ready to give away my copy of WWW/LX/HV yet.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
> *Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
> *3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
> *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
> *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX
>
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Date:         Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:18:22 +0800
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              "Roger S." <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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Try the ccLXPOP in S.U.P.E.R.

Roger S.
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=A6=AC=A5=F3=AA=CC: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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=A5D=A6=AE: CC-Mail and MS-Exchange...


> Does anyone know if it is possible to use the palmtop cc-mail client fo=
r
> connection to a Microsoft Exchange server?  There is a Lotus connector =
for
> migration from CC-mail bundled with exchange 5.5 and I'm wondering if c=
an
> talk directly to clients also.
>
> A second option (I know nothing about cc-mail, but a fair amount of
exchange
> and pop mail...) would be can the palm cc-mail client act as a POP clie=
nt?
>
> I'd like to use the built in app, but  am aware that other pop mail
clients
> are available for down load.
>
> -Calvin
>
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Date:         Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:13:46 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: TECH:  palm won't come on
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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This suggestion to remove the batteries and set the unit aside for a few
days has been made earlier, too. What does this process achieve? Discharge
some power supply capacitors? But why should that take so long?

Anand.

At 10:40 PM 01-07-1999 Thursday +0000, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

>Fourth, remove all batteries and put it aside a few days before trying it
>again.
>
>Fifth, send it to Thaddeus for repair.
>
>Maybe someone else has suggestions.
>
>
>================================
>At 12:28 PM 6/30/99 -0500, Stan Treanor <treanor@camalott.com> wrote:
>>Hi...need a little help.  I left my hp 200lx sitting under my car seat for
>>10 days and when I returned to use it ...nothing happened.  So I put in two
>>new AA batteries and still no response from the hp.  I'm figuring there is
>>no need replacing the backup battery if the two AA bateries are new (???).
>>Any Suggestions.
>>
>>Stan
>>

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:16:07 EDT
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In a message dated 7/2/99 11:52:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

>
>  I think you will find that the CD-Infobase from Thaddeus Computing contains
>  99% of all the freeware, shareware, and Give-aware that is available for
>  the LX as of the release date a few months ago.  This includes a bonus CD
>  crammed full with Guttenburg e-texts.

Ed, okay I'll bite on this. I think the CD is great.  And I look at
Franklin's so-called "Rocketbook" now in the stores with a wry smile.  Seems
nobody in the press wants to hear that palmtoppers have been enjoying the
great books electronically for years . . . for free.

>  As with any CD, there are always new products that appear after the burn.

No, I think they should just stop and let the CD be definitive.  Unless, that
is, you're thinking of gearing up for DVD.  :-)

-roger-

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:37:10 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos A Rodrigues Alves <cara@ONS.ORG.BR>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:09 PM
Subject: How to fix a broken batery cover


>Somebody post a message about a HP200LX hinge crack fix.  Does anybody
>sugest a fix for a broken batery cover? (actualy just the two little
plastic
>sticks that attach the cover to the palmtop body are broken)
>
>sds,
>carlos
>
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>I have two HPlx200 this is how I fixed what you describe.
I first try crazy glue to reattach the piece. It was not strong enough.
then I lost that little broken piece. I found another piece of plastic,
filed it to shape it in the form of the broken piece and I used one of those
dual syringe welding type glue to attach it. I was surprise to find that it
remains solidly glued.

Now, my second HP went through the same problem I went back to wal mart to
get another one of these double syringe glue to discover that there are many
different type of these.  The one I got this time did not work that well.
anyway I think it is better to order the kit from thadeus that has the
battery cover, the cover for the IRDA area, some screws and a few more
goodies.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:30:55 EDT
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In a message dated 7/1/99 4:42:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@FTEL.NET
writes:

> BTW, I am not sure I would agree with Roger's recommendation
>  re 1000CX.

The guy said he couldn't spend the money for the 200LX.  My recommendation
was based on his constraints.  cc:Mail and Pocket Quicken were not included
in the 95LX, which was his other alternative.  You and I are in complete
agreement on this.

-roger-

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:01:50 EDT
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In a message dated 7/1/99 6:08:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> the front of your
>  body gets the same amount of water on it whether you walk or run, because
>  when you run you get through the rain faster but you intersect more drops
>  by running.

But if you run *before* the rain, you won't get wet at all, and if you learn
to walk between the drops you are truly kung fu. <g>.

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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This is, of course, not really a 200LX question, but it does concern
hplx.net, so for all the Linux gurus out there:

I'm running Red Hat Linux 5.1 on my machine.  (Will probably upgrade to a
newer version or change to another distribution because of hackers who
continually try to attack the machine, and who have had a few successes.
BUT ANYWAY, my question should be mostly the same.)  Currently, the
software used for news.hplx.net, INN, doesn't load when the machine boots.
How can I set it up to load actived and innd at startup?  I know it has
something to do with the rc.xxx directories in /etc, but I haven't been
able to figure out how to get it to work properly yet.  Anybody?

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In a message dated 7/2/99 11:56:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> But my own analysis bicycle commuting thru DENSE DRIZZLE the other morning
>  18 miles shows that I could not have gotten any wetter than I did!!!!
>  (sigh)  (the hp stayed dry in the rear carrier luggage and makes a great
>  bike commute computer)

It's really interesting.  Scattered across the Web are various lists of bike
touring equipment compiled by people who have taken trips of varying
duration.  All of them stress weight-saving tips and techniques.  Frequently,
you'll find laptops or Powerbooks included on these lists, but I have yet to
find a single one that recommends the 200LX as a takealong computer.  I guess
this is one audience that the palmtop never managed to reach..

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:30:48 EDT
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Death from natural causes? <G>
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In a message dated 7/2/99 12:03:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL writes:

> Wow, next there will be palmtops rescued from trees, perhaps a
>  community-wide vigil while we dig a shaft next to a well to retrieve a
>  palmtop that has fallen in...
>
Laugh if you will, I retreat to my Bat Cave.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:16:14 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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From:         "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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The hinge crack appeared on mine several months ago.  I tried regular
SuperGlue (cyanoacrylate), but it didn't hold.  The I found a
cyanoacrylate glue just for plastics and it has been fine ever since,
although I'm still a little miffed that it happened in the first place!
Anyway, it's called Loctite Plastix, Advanced Plastic Bonder, Item No.:
82565.

So, question: Is there any (easy) to reinforce the case, from the
inside, in order to prevent the hinge crack?

(I am not associated with Loctite in any way, other than as a satisfied
customer.)

Richard Smith

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Subject:      Re: OFF-TOPIC: Loading automatically with Linux

> This is, of course, not really a 200LX question, but it does concern
> hplx.net, so for all the Linux gurus out there:
>
> I'm running Red Hat Linux 5.1 on my machine.  (Will probably upgrade to a
> newer version or change to another distribution because of hackers who
> continually try to attack the machine, and who have had a few successes.
> BUT ANYWAY, my question should be mostly the same.)  Currently, the
> software used for news.hplx.net, INN, doesn't load when the machine boots.
> How can I set it up to load actived and innd at startup?  I know it has
> something to do with the rc.xxx directories in /etc, but I haven't been
> able to figure out how to get it to work properly yet.  Anybody?

In RH51 is you look in the rc.d directories most things are just
links to one directory that has the actual scripts. Just put a script
to start innd in that directory, make sure it is executable. Then put
a link to it in the directory that represents your runlevel and make
sure it is executable. The next time the system restarts it should
start innd as well. There are other ways to do it but that should
work. You can just copy one of the other scripts and rename /edit it
for innd. I am doing this from memory if I missed a detail I will
look it up.

Pete









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A few people expressed interest in Clik! drives so I thought I'd pass on
that:

1.  The self-contained pcmcia drive won't even fit in the HP 200; it's just
a
smidgen too thick and trying to force it in will start separating the case
halves.

2.  The external drive with pcmcia connector card *will* fit, and it has its
own
power supply, but I have not been able to get the iomega drivers to work.
There
IS a dos driver (guest.exe) but it won't find the card on the HP 200.  On a
notebook it installs as a secondary IDE controller and I suspect that it
requires an
AT style architecture to run.

3.  For non-LX use, I've found it to be fairly speedy and carrying 40 meg
disks that
are so small is certainly convenient.  Plus, I can keep the pcmcia drive in
the
notebook at all times and not have to fiddle with an external zip or
somesuch ...



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Thanks Pete and Bennett for the help.  It's all working now, and I finally
understand how this stuff works (mostly <g>).  This should improve
reliability a bit.

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Hi Barbara,

> I am trying PIM (thanks to Andreas for his great programs) I get
> "Divide error".  The gui screen for PIM does show up but I get the
> divide error message appears.  I tried unloading all my tsrs and tried
> to run it directly from Dos (without SC, pure dos).  Still get the
> divide error.  Does anyone know what I am doing wrong??

Try to download it once more. Maybe your file pim.exe is corrupted.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Friends,

> First, replace that backup battery.
>
> Second, try pressing Control-Shift-On.
>
> Third, remove and re-insert all batteries again.  If necessary, repeat step 2.
>
> Fourth, remove all batteries and put it aside a few days before trying it
> again.
>
> Fifth, send it to Thaddeus for repair.
>
> Maybe someone else has suggestions.

Yes: Don't know if this really helps, but in the manuals of several
devices (for example my insuline pump) stands: 'Hold down the on key
for a few seconds before inserting the batteries'.

This would unload any capacitors inside the device, I think, so that
it would be _totally_ resetted.

Give it a try - good luck!

GTX
daniel

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> Ok, I'll take that as a serious offer. Could you kindly
> help out by producing what you already offered once?
> Produce the design of a better, tighter, more feature rich
> browser. If you want to incorporate the TCP/IP
> communication layer, than you probably have to design that
> in too. Also what about the dialler? Scripts? How about
> multiple ISP management? Well, I won't tell you how to do
> your part in this.


I disagre. Wattcp + Packet Driver (pppd or ethernet) provides a perfectly
viable, configureable and /OPEN/ TCP/IP stack. Scripting and multipe ISP
support, even automatic detection of various interfaces options (Ethernet vs.
Modem vs. (soon) GSM Phone) is easily done with a batch file.

In fact, building a new browser for the palmtop involves very little design,
but more integration and software re-use. Probably the hardest design decisions
involved is deciding which features of HTML to implement, and deciding what the
minimum space requirements are going to be (1MB of EMS or 4MB?) Face it, there
are so many HTML browsers available in open source that it is basically a
matter of deciding which one is the most space efficient and trimming it down
to size. Of course there are palmtop specific display problems, but the
majority of the work, such as the parsing and the rendering of the HTML, can be
lifted from other projects.

I'm not saying that it would be easy by any means. Codeing and debugging would
take a huge ammount of effort, and the feature/resource tradeoff is almost
certain to leave very few people truely satisifed İAlthough some of those
problems can be solved with judicial use contitional compilation, a la
MS-Kermit (would you like tcp/ip with that, or not?)¨ But we're not talking
about a design project of the same scope as the systems software for the space
shuttle, either.


> When do you think you can have the design? Would you
> release it in public?
>
>  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

A summary of what code should be lifted and and placed together, along with a
list of feature/resource targets could probably be done in under a month, by a
small group of people IN THEIR SPARE TIME. (Say 60 Person/Hours). And of course
it would be made public. Open source is probably the only way for a project
like this to get done without financial backing. It _is_ too big for someone to
whip off in their spare time over a weekend.

So is anyone interested???

-Ryan
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:07:04 +0000, Chris Randle wrote:

>Some people are lucky with UK customs and their goods pass
>straight through. I got charged 10% import duty on the goods,
>then 17.5% VAT on the goods AND the import duty. I was
>especially annoyed as one of the items was a VAT exempt book -
>don't bother trying to argue with them!

You need a friend in the US to purchase the goods and send them on, =
listing
them as a gift on the Custome Declaration :)

--=20
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Subscriber Comments: Have 4-HP 200LX's used as control terminals for =
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detection instrumentation and the downloading of measurement
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In a message dated 7/3/99 12:25:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM writes:

> 2.  The external drive with pcmcia connector card *will* fit, and it has its
>  own
>  power supply, but I have not been able to get the iomega drivers to work.
>  There
>  IS a dos driver (guest.exe) but it won't find the card on the HP 200.  On a
>  notebook it installs as a secondary IDE controller and I suspect that it
>  requires an
>  AT style architecture to run.

Kurt,

Oh? Do I detect a heartbeat?  Is there a blip on the electroencephalograph?
There is a DOS guest.exe in the distribution?  This IS curious.  Is this the
Clik Mobile model -- the one that also includes a parallel port interface
besides the PCMCIA?  If you're using the Iomega PCMCIA, it's probably
incompatible with the palmtop.  The question is whether guest would work with
a PCMCIA parallel port card.  Has anyone on the list tried this?

-roger-

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On 2 Jul 1999 08:54:23 -0700, fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET ("F. Kaufman") =
wrote:

----snipped some---
> But my own analysis bicycle commuting thru DENSE DRIZZLE the other =
morning
> 18 miles shows that I could not have gotten any wetter than I did!!!!
> (sigh)  (the hp stayed dry in the rear carrier luggage and makes a =
great
> bike commute computer)
>
> Rain, rain, go away...........
>

I think that it was Jerry Seinfeld that said: "You can not overdry
something" when talking of drying cloths. If you try this on wet you
could say that if you already are wet it makes no sense to hurry to a
dry place because you already are as wet as you could be and won't be
less wet if you hurry..am I going in circles in my argumentation here?

Avi..are you in Europa now..any chance you are going to Norway is
there?q

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
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> So, question: Is there any (easy) to reinforce the case, from the
> inside, in order to prevent the hinge crack?

I understand getting into the UPPER LID is not an easy project - I think
I have real the hinge has to be disassembled.

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re: the HP200 as THE perfect bicycle computer (G)

> you'll find laptops or Powerbooks included on these lists, but I have yet to
> find a single one that recommends the 200LX as a takealong computer.  I guess
> this is one audience that the palmtop never managed to reach..

There have been a few such users on HPHAND on cis over the years.
Again, I think it may have been HP's lack of marketing and folks just
never saw them enough to give them a second thought.

Then again, maybe folks who do that type of thing write their journals
at night and laptops can be used in the dark but not in the sunlight! (G)

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> besides the PCMCIA?  If you're using the Iomega PCMCIA, it's probably
> incompatible with the palmtop.  The question is whether guest would work with
> a PCMCIA parallel port card.  Has anyone on the list tried this?

I don't know about this new CLIK drive but the original Parallel ZIP
drive does work with the HP200 using the transdigital parallel pcmcia
card and the dos Guest drivers that came with that original zip drive.

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> > I get that way when I play Ten Thousand and the computer gets three times
> > 2000 all the time :-)
> I have always been suspecting this. I never succeed in improve
> the 43%/57% human/computer win-ratio

I'm (usually) able to maintain a slightly positive win ratio
against the computer in 10K.

cheers... Russ

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In a message dated 7/3/99 10:26:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> > besides the PCMCIA?  If you're using the Iomega PCMCIA, it's probably
>  > incompatible with the palmtop.  The question is whether guest would work
> with
>  > a PCMCIA parallel port card.  Has anyone on the list tried this?
>
>  I don't know about this new CLIK drive but the original Parallel ZIP
>  drive does work with the HP200 using the transdigital parallel pcmcia
>  card and the dos Guest drivers that came with that original zip drive.
>
Exactly.  And with the Quatech SPP-100 as well.  In fact, they'll work with
the guest drivers that still come with the 100 Mb parallel ZIP, though Iomega
does not make a point of this fact.  This is why I'm asking.  (a) Are they
the same drivers or, at least, is the CLIK's version of guest a compatible 16
bit app?  (b) Will the externally powered CLIK actually run under them?

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That makes it look much better!

>By pressing the F5, you can reduce the tool bar a little, so it only take
up
>1/3 of the screen.

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> > So, question: Is there any (easy) to reinforce the case, from the
> > inside, in order to prevent the hinge crack?
>
> I understand getting into the UPPER LID is not an easy project - I =
think
> I have real the hinge has to be disassembled.

I had do deal with a hinge crack. I think it was the result of a tight
hing. The first thing I did, was a drop of oil to make the hinge
operating smooth. Second, I did put loctite super glue very carefully
with a needle into the crack. I did press the crack for a minute and
removed the rest of superglue with a q-dip.

After some days I polished it with plastic polish. You hardly can see
the crack now. This hp200lx is may favorite one and I use it a lot
every day (6 to 12 hours). From time to time I put a drop of oil into
the hing.

That's it, now for a long time. In the meantime, I had to glue the
spacebar twice and the Enter key. The unit is still working.

Since the space bar did brake twice, the second was next to the first
brake, I think I have to replace the keyboard first. Hopefully it will
last for some time.

Regards

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A question that's not meant to put you in a bad light, Neil:

Is that legal?

I have a friend in Finland who wants to buy a digital camera from America,
but has been complaining about the import duty.  If doing something like
this isn't legal, I'd be delighted to help him out.  Does anyone know
offhand?

Thanks,
Rick,
who will mention that he is now past two weeks on a set of fully charged
"green generic" 1300 mAh NiMHs from Mouser Electronics, just so there will
be some obligatory on-topic LX material in this post.  ;¬)

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On 7/3/99 at 11:46 AM Neil Tungate wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:07:04 +0000, Chris Randle wrote:
>
>>Some people are lucky with UK customs and their goods pass
>>straight through. I got charged 10% import duty on the goods,
>>then 17.5% VAT on the goods AND the import duty. I was
>>especially annoyed as one of the items was a VAT exempt book -
>>don't bother trying to argue with them!
>
>You need a friend in the US to purchase the goods and send them on,
listing
>them as a gift on the Custome Declaration :)

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I've just ordered a Jornada 680, once it arrives and I have a chance to
convert my data over I will be selling my 200 LX. Due to the great help
I've received from this list, I will offer it here first.
(HP200LX, Double speed, 32 Meg, s/n SG4..., all the books and other
stuff I can find. Address questions off list to jlgill@airmail.net.)

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Date:         Sat, 3 Jul 1999 14:48:33 -0500
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Hi David

Friday, July 02, 1999, you wrote to me:

DS> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Jack LaRosa wrote:

>> I hate to ask this (because I'm afraid of the answer) but do you know
>> if Pocket Quicken on the 200 is Y2K compliant?

DS> Yes, all of the built-in apps in the 200LX are Y2K compliant.  Doubtless
DS> there are plenty of DOS applications that can be run on it that AREN'T y2k
DS> compliant, but all of the built-in apps are compliant.

DS> I have heard, though, that the 200LX is not Y2038 compliant.

Somehow I don't think that will be a problem for me.  But thanks for
the answer anyway.


Toodles,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Sorry to be very off-topic but it is kind of important.  The list is
pretty worldly and someone may be able to help.

Hoping this broad list has an Italian User or two.

I am trying to locate a phone number or address of a gastro-enterologist
 or surgeon supposedly in Florence (Firenze) Italy.

Doctor Francesco Cornu (spelling might be off).

Any help appreciated.

And, again, apologize for being very off-topic.

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Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems, Model
1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or driver disks.

Does anyone know if they wlii work with the HP200LX?

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   >Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems,
   >Model 1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or
   >driver disks.
   >Does anyone know if they wlii work with the HP200LX?
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:29:33 +0000

Yes, they should work right off the table.  I have one myself... no
instructions nor added software/hardware is needed.

The price is about the usual for people liquidating these.

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I installed Word 5.5 when I first got my palmtop. It ran using the
print preview but it was agonizingly slow on a 1meg HP100.  Perhaps
you don't have all the files installed?  I had used it previously on
an old cga Zenith laptop so I know it works on cga lcd.

FWIW, MS says Word 5.5 is Y2K compliant.

Terry

On 30 Jun 99 Nancy A. Barker wrote:

> Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
> on the 200lx? I have Word 5.5, but it won't allow it
> on the lx, only on my laptop. I assume it needs more
> than CGA. I tried several shareware for a while but
> couldn't find anything. Any help?
>
> tia,
> n.
>

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First, a couple of quick excerpts with comments:

>------------------------------
>From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
>
>Most of the off-topic stuff is labeled FLUFF: in the subject line.  If
>not, it should be, and it is very easy to turn off delivery of FLUFF:
>messages.
>------------------------------

David and others: This would work only if the email client you use supports
it, and you DON'T get the digest version...

>------------------------------
>From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
>
>That's a good way to make friends.  Join a new list and insult people.
>
>I notice your post (definitely not about the 200LX at all!) was not
>labeled with FLUFF: in the subject line.  Please do so in the future.
>------------------------------

David and others I have seen do the same thing: Does this truly need to go
to everyone on the list or can it just go to the individual in an email?

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>From:    "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
>
>If you read one message with a subject of X and it is off topic, TO
>YOU, then I would suggest NOT reading any further messages with
>subject X. That way you will probably not miss anything and you will
>not have to read all these off topic messages. Works great for me.
>That also allows those of us who might WANT to read those messages to
>do so.
>------------------------------

Peter: Again, this is easy for those of you who DO NOT recieve the digest
version...

>------------------------------
>From:    Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
>
>It's not helped by people who re-quote a 50/60 line article and add a mere
>two lines of text of their own. Please folk, do make an effort to trim the
>extraneous stuff before hitting the send button. It will make it easier for
>everyone.
>------------------------------

Neil: Thank you and it bears repeating...

Second, my own Fluff...

In case you were all wondering why this stuff bothers me, look at the
following qoutes...

"There are 47 messages totalling 1515 lines in this issue."

"There are 47 messages totalling 1541 lines in this issue."

So I and others like me who recieve the digest version get to scan through
about fifteen hundred lines of text to read the few postings that interest
us. More than one person on the list seems to like hitting the 'reply'
button and tacking on their part. A few extra seconds of cutting the extra
stuff off YOUR reply can save others a little effort and time.

Please have a few manners and be a little considerate of others...

Thank you for your time and consideration.

TTFN
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On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Andrew Prince wrote:

> David and others: This would work only if the email client you use
> supports it, and you DON'T get the digest version...

You may be right about the digest version, although I'm reasonably certain
that (if it is not currently implemented) it should be possible to have
the digest settings for each individual reflect their list mailing
settings. In any case, whether you get FLUFF: posts or not is a
subscription option. It has nothing to do with the e-mail client you use,
since it is implemented server-side.  Even if that was NOT the case,
however, I can't think of any e-mail program that doesn't support mail
filtering.

> David and others I have seen do the same thing: Does this truly need
> to go to everyone on the list or can it just go to the individual in
> an email?

I believe what _I_ said needed to go to the list, yes.  Newcomers should
realize that they should clearly label off-topic posts, and that they
don't need to get them if they don't want to.

> So I and others like me who recieve the digest version get to scan
> through about fifteen hundred lines of text to read the few postings
> that interest us. More than one person on the list seems to like
> hitting the 'reply' button and tacking on their part. A few extra
> seconds of cutting the extra stuff off YOUR reply can save others a
> little effort and time.

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Andrew,

FWIW, I've seen a great deal worse, plus a lot more spamming, on other lists.
 You've made your point, but let's be human about this also.  This is not an
academic symposium.  I've never seen a special interest group on any BBS,
online service, or the Internet, where posters didn't occasionally stray off
topic or get caught up in entertaining riffs. It's part of the online
experience, and it's also part of life.  Ten years from now, we might be able
to speak to our newsreaders or e-mail programs and say, "Just get me the
posts from people who are being serious."  Depending on how things go, such
programs will either come back with only serious posts, or only posts from
people whose last names are "Serious". I hope I get to see that, but
personally, I like things as they are now.

-roger-

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I apologize for posting my problems with Buy Comp to the list.
It seems that Roger S. and Al Kind have both had positive
experiences with them.

Lawrence: They have excellent prices and our courteous. My problem
is that they promised something and did not deliver, but yet, my card
was still charged. The matter was resolved after I brought it to their
attention,
they corrected it.

I posted a quote from Dave Sargent's web site as it truly fit what happened
to me - very similar situation. Dave described it better than I could. Some
of the latest messages appears that this is my comment. I cannot take credit
for Dave's creativity. (But I support his assertion that they are 'pure
evil')
See: http://www.hplx.net/opinions.vendors.html

My problem is that on my vacation I ordered a new laptop. I backed all my
data onto a CD, and gave my notebook to my wife. I was ready to install
'my' stuff on my new laptop which after it not arriving when promised, when
I called was told four weeks. I had to take back my laptop and reinstall
everything.
(She likes Word. I insist on Lotus Word Pro)
The essence of my life cannot survive on a CD ROM ; ) so I was pretty
frustrated.

BuyComp and Buy"whatever" are all part of  www.buy.com

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The software that comes with the self-contained pcmcia card drive is called
"iomegaware" and DOES have a 16 bit DOS driver - "guest.exe".  It comes with
a slew of drivers including 2 parallel port ones - aspippm1.sys and
aspippm2.sys.  As I said this card is just a smidgen too thick to fit into
the 200LX.

The software that comes with the mobile drive is called "Clik! Sofware for
Clik! Mobile Drives" and DOES NOT include a DOS driver - it only has '95,
NT, and CE drivers on it.  This drive comes with a separate pcmcia interface
card and a parallel port docking station for the desktop.

Hope this helps in some way.  Since I don't have a parallel card for my
HP200 I can't tell you if the mobile drive will work with the docking
station using the driver that comes with the pcmcia drive.  Sorry.

Kurt Hopfensperger

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Kurt,

Thanks for the clarification.  It's now clear, but extremely weird that they
would provide the guest driver set with the self-contained card unit, but not
the other. On the CD that came with the PCMCIA card, did you also find
Nibble.sys and Nibble1.sys files?  If you ever get the chance, try taking the
guest program, the asp*.* drivers and the nibble drivers and running the
PCMCIA card off of a "foreign" laptop or notebook that has not had the rest
of the Iomega Tools for Windows installed and is booted under DOS (or even a
DOS session within WIndows) .  It would be interesting to know if that card
will run.  ***Please don't try this with the external model.***  But if the
card model does work under those drivers, unless the internals of the docking
model are radically different, I might be encouraged to experiment.

-roger-

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Andreas wrote:

> Looks like a bug. Did you already set up PIM.CFG? Did you add at least
> one appointment or task? I would assume that the most likely reason for
> this to happen is if there is no data at all or if some settings in the
> CFG are invalid.

I had already up PIM.CFG and an appointment.  Still had the same problem =
so I
started from scratch.  Deleted all PIM files, set up the directories
again, unzipped the files and placed the appropriate files in the DATA
subdirectory.  Still didnt work so I tried the same delete/reload with
PE.  Now it works just fine.  Might of had some corruption in my first
try.

Something was buggy but I think it was me that was buggy.  Thanks for
your help.  Now I can try out all of PE/PIM's features.

Barbara

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Daniel Hertich wrote:
> Try to download it once more. Maybe your file pim.exe is corrupted.

The combination of downloading PE and PIM again and starting from
scratch seemed to work.

Thanks for your help.

Barbara

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On second thought, after browsing Iomega's site and reviewing the
documentation that they've posted, I doubt that the external (docking) model
can be made to work with the palmtop.

It looks as though the Zip 100 parallel drive is it for the palmtop crowd.
On the upside, it would appear that the bulk of the external Clik unit, its
docking cradle, and its parallel port/power supply connection -- all of which
would be required for any imagined setup with the LX -- pretty much cancels
out any advantages that the new product might have had over the older one in
terms of portability.

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On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Roger Feinman wrote:

> It looks as though the Zip 100 parallel drive is it for the palmtop
> crowd.

As soon as I get the Transdigital card that's on its way, I plan to test
the parallel port version of the Imation Superdisk drive.  It has 16-bit
DOS drivers that seem to work on the 200LX, so we'll see... this would be
good because not only can you read/write to the 120MB Superdisk cartriges,
but you can use regular 1.44MB floppies as well.  If it all works, it
would be a sort of high-tech replacement for the Drive100.  <g>

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Barbara,

> your help.  Now I can try out all of PE/PIM's features.

Have fun. In my opinion it is one of the most powerful products with a
very high use in daily business, with apps and todos; very strong in
project planing and management.

In combination with POST/LX it it supports all functions of a state of
the art communication center.

Enjoy it!

Regards

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In a message dated 7/3/99 11:36:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> the Imation Superdisk drive.  It has 16-bit
>  DOS drivers that seem to work on the 200LX, so we'll see... this would be
>  good because not only can you read/write to the 120MB Superdisk cartriges,
>  but you can use regular 1.44MB floppies as well.

Way?  The Clik Mobile's drivers look to be 32-bit, are incompatible with
current versions of Iomegaware, and (from what I gather) it addresses the bus
somewhat differently than the other models, so I've crossed that off my list.
 I haven't investigated Sony's version of the superdisk concept.  Anyone else
on the list tried this?  I'm also waiting to hear from anyone on the list
who's tried the Zip 250 parallel port model to see if that will fly with the
200LX, as it supposedly uses the same version of Iomegaware that the Zip 100
does.

-roger-

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On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 Feinmanr@aol.com wrote:

> Way?  The Clik Mobile's drivers look to be 32-bit, are incompatible
> with current versions of Iomegaware, and (from what I gather) it
> addresses the bus somewhat differently than the other models, so I've
> crossed that off my list. I haven't investigated Sony's version of the
> superdisk concept.

What do you mean by "Way?" ... the way to hook up the SuperDisk parallel
port drive?  With the Transdigital parallel card. The Superdisk drive
(www.superdisk.com) comes in an external parallel version.  The drive's
DOS drivers seem to run on the 200LX, so it's just a matter of seeing if
they can see it with the Transdigital card installed.  We'll find out.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 05:45:14 EDT
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In a message dated 7/4/99 5:16:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> What do you mean by "Way?"

No, I meant "Way?" as in "Word?", "Honestly?"
, "Truly?", "Are you serious?", for which usage I cite Mike Meyers as my
authority.

-roger-

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:13:29 -700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: Sorta Fluff: Excessive postings and more...

My US$0,02 or Rupiah 130 to above topic.
Just subscribe to the Index and you may daily sort through the topics which
you may think of interest. You return your wish list and can get a fluff
free digest back in minutes.
Windows multitasking: screwing up several things at once

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:53:37 -0400
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         DIGEST Tony Corso <acorso@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Wireless internet for 200 lx (cant use ricochet)
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Ricochet, (what i believe to be the fastest wireless internet), wont
work in my part of Manhattan, so i need to use one of the cell
networks.

I'd prefer a flat fee for un-limited access plan. Bell atlantic net has a
plan for 39.99 and a  pcmia (type II) modem they offer, (though not
the only wireless modem they offer), draws 140 ma to receive, and
850 ma for broadcast.

any other ideas/possibilities

thanks for taking the time
Regards
Tony

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:46:43 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Sun,  4 Jul 1999 11:32:54 -0500 (EST)

16h23m58s ago ...
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Stephen Petty wrote:

> I apologize for posting my problems with Buy Comp to the list.
> It seems that Roger S. and Al Kind have both had positive
> experiences with them.
> ...

        No apology necessary! I wanted to express that I had good luck
        w/ stuff...it appears the key is that the stuff is in stock!
        Their prices are pretty good.

        Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Sun,  4 Jul 1999 11:56:33 -0500 (EST)

17h39m02s ago ...
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Andrew Prince wrote:

> First, a couple of quick excerpts with comments:
>
> >------------------------------
> >From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> >
> >Most of the off-topic stuff is labeled FLUFF: in the subject line.  If
> >not, it should be, and it is very easy to turn off delivery of FLUFF:
> >messages.
> >------------------------------
>
> David and others: This would work only if the email client you use =
supports
> it, and you DON'T get the digest version...
>
> ...

        Try sending a message to

LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

        with

set hplx-l topics -fluff

       in the body(subject doesn't matter). Im curious whether or not
       this works for DIGEST.

       cheers,

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*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:04:03 -0500
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              Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Death from natural causes?
Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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On 29 Jun 1999, ddvteach@STRATO.NET (Domingo Diaz-Vazquez) wrote:

> The recent news about the mortality of our beloved palmtop leads me to =
ask a
> nagging question: Does the Hplx dies from plain old age, and if so, =
about
> how long does it take?
İsnip¨
> 1-Was it that you forgot the last free fall into concrete 6  months =
ago?
> 2-Did you get your unit used or new?
> 3-Was it a DS/memory upgrade unit (I suspect the surgery may increase =
the
> mortality rate)?
>
> The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and that is
> preventable.

The failures you need to worry about are all mechanical, not
electrical, like ROMs losing their data <g>

I purchased my 100LX in late 1993. During the first three
years of its life, it never lasted more than 10 months without
some sort of mechanical problem: loose hinge, keys that
didn't register, keys that broke (especially the space bar),
lines on the screen due to bad connections, etc. All these
were repaired at no charge under the HP 3-year Express
Exchange warranty. Since the last time the machine was
replaced in mid-1996 it has not failed.

I use my 100LX every day. It goes everywhere with me. It has
never been upgraded. It has fallen on the floor a few times,
but I have never hit it with a baseball bat. <g>

Vic

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:09:14 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Subject:      Re: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem
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Sun,  4 Jul 1999 12:04:53 -0500 (EST)

18h35m28s ago ...
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

>    >Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems,
>    >Model 1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or
>    >driver disks.
>    >Does anyone know if they wlii work with the HP200LX?
> Message-Id: <19990703222933.UVLH2808@İ12.72.161.108¨>
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:29:33 +0000
>
> Yes, they should work right off the table.  I have one myself... no
> instructions nor added software/hardware is needed.
>
> The price is about the usual for people liquidating these.

Kent Byron kento@eznet.net was selling them(no manual) for $12.99ea + =
ship
John Guenther had some as well asking abit more, but including
manual, although I think he is sold out.

Cheers,


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*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:09:17 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      HARDWARESTREET- WARNING!
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Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

> So if you don't live in USA and want to order some PC products over the
> net- forget Hardwarestreet. They STINKS!!!!

I am very sorry to hear of your troubles with Hardware Street.
 I am not trying to defend them and I have no affiliation with
them, but I just want to offer some balance.

I ordered an Accton EN2216-1 network card from them via the
WWW.  I got the Email order confirmation a few monutes later.
I asked for 2-day shipping and tuned into their order status
Web site to see when it shipped.  When it didn't show as
shipped in about 36 hours, I called them, and they said it did
ship that morning.  They gave me the FedEx tracking number.
Later that day, I got the the Email confirmation that it
shipped and the same tracking number again.

Then I followed the package all through Fedex via thier web
site until it was delivered to me.  I ordered the product
Tuesday afternoon and had it Friday morning.  I live in the
USA.  So, my one and oly experience with Hardware Street has
been pleasent.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:09:19 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      HP200LX Appt Book restore?
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Jonathan Teich <jteich@MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:

> I accidentally removed all appointments *earlier* than today

Where the frig is your backup copy?!  You should have made a
backup before you tried any type of operation on the file as
drastic as that.

Each time you didn't make a backup copy, you saved a few
seconds.  Now you will spend lots of minutes or maybe even
hours trying to recover from the screw up.  Not to mention the
anguish of being in this bad spot.

In the long run, was it worth it to save a few seconds here
and there?


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 10:27:27 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX Appt Book restore?
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On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Where the frig is your backup copy?!

<snip long, Unabomber-esque rant>

Geez, Stan.  I don't mean to denigrate the importance of making a backup
(everybody please backup your data daily, and we'll all lead healthier,
happier lives) but sometimes bad things do happen.  Sometimes good,
honest, hardworking folks can lose data even if they have recently done a
backup.  Nothing is 100% certain.  No need to make people who are having
to cope with the loss of loved data feel worse by brutally shredding them
in public.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:46:22 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: CC-Mail and MS-Exchange...
Comments: To: Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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>can the palm cc-mail client act as a POP client?


Yes, use cclxmail from super ( http://www.palmtop.net )

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:18:52 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, ronburnett@CSI.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ron Burnett <ronburnett@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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That's what I use to get all my e-mail.  I use an adapter;
otherwise battery life is greatly reduced.

Ron


> Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems, Model
> 1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or driver disks.
>
> Does anyone know if they wlii work with the HP200LX?
>
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From:         Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: Wisdom
Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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>I had a "disappointing" experience ordering from the US....

A warning to anyone outside the US:
Beware when buying from US mail-order houses, check very carefully their
freight charge regime.
Most of them, whilst offering a number of options to US customers,
including 'Ground' delivery
($4-$10), only offer overseas customers one option: Priority Delivery.
This means, for example, $US48 to New Zealand for a $50 CF Card, which
could have been
posted in an envelope for $2. Duh....
Some of these places won't deliver outside the US at all, except maybe
Canada.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:00:31 EDT
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 7/4/99 4:45:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM writes:

> A warning to anyone outside the US:
>  Beware when buying from US mail-order houses, check very carefully their
>  freight charge regime.

Roger, it is a bad break.  Unfortunately, due to today's worldwide political
climate, the shipping method is often more due to security concerns than any
derogation of overseas customers.  As a matter of regulations implemented
within the past few years, the U.S. Postal Service will not accept such
packages unless they are delivered personally to a post office by a live
human being.  To avoid that necessity, therefore, merchants here must rely on
freight carriers who impose higher charges.

-roger-

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:49:48 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> and if you learn
> to walk between the drops you are truly kung fu. <g>.

Or incredibly thin, or fast... It is the super thin person
whose pajamas have a single stripe :) ...

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:49:52 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Roger,

> > BTW, I am not sure I would agree with Roger's recommendation
> >  re 1000CX.
>
> The guy said he couldn't spend the money for the 200LX.  My recommendation
> was based on his constraints.  cc:Mail and Pocket Quicken were not included

I think he shpuld save his pennies for a 200LX then :-) ...

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:50:00 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Running in the rain
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> > Feels strange to celebrate it in the maw of the former rulers!
>
> Go ahead, make a big deal out of at and see if you can get yourself
> permanently thrown out of the country. :-)

nah! They are really nice here. I am having a grand time.
Today we got a visitor from France (does not show here) and
started the day with a walk from Waterloo to Covent Garden,
than a forced march to Sy James, through it, to Green Park,
through it, and one to Hyde Park and _through_ it to the Ring,
then down Exposition to the Polish Club for lunch.

Present: chris Randle (posts here), Tony Hutchins (here) and
his daughter, my friend J - not here, Daniel from France,
and Wlodek Mier-D. - a legendary chronicler of HP
calculators history. We had a grand time at lunch, griping
about HP's incredible knack for dumb-sumb marketing moves
(several examples of blazing into a new market with no
competition, just to vacate it and then leave it for others
to make boatloads of money! They are sometimes pretty dumb in
marketing...)

We talked politics, work, immigration, lots of things. We
even saw some neat equipment: Chris had a Libretto 110 -
nice brick. He showed the Grey Cell modem with reported
110mah doing 33.6. A Psion was present, nice machine, well
supported by a savvy company with people who do marketing who
are not braindead. Tony showed his Nokia 8810. Cameras were
there too, even Tony's old electric-tape patched HP with a
crack. We had wine, borsht (russian and ukrainian), various
excellent dishes, good convesation, good comaraderie.

This was a great palmtopper meeting: Thanks to Wlodek for
leading us to the Polish Officers club, thanks to Chris for
the amazing show and tell, Thanks to Daniel for the Galic
touch and the wine selection, Thanks to J. for her patience,
Thanks to Anita for putting up with all these boring adult
kids. Thanks to Tony for the Nokia 8810/WWW/LX Plus demo over
IR.

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:49:56 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Anand:

> some power supply capacitors? But why should that take so long?

Well, the electrons have to dissipate, but the 200LX is such a
nice home for them they take longer to dissipate. Simple and
pure electronics theory :)...

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:27:20 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Running in the rain
In-Reply-To:  <199907042250.PAA24327@ftel.net> from "A Meshar" at Jul 4,
              99 03:50:00 pm
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Avi:

> and Wlodek Mier-D. - a legendary chronicler of HP
> calculators history.

I would love to learn how to get a copy of said chronicles.  Many years
ago, I received a mysterious package containing a book about major
products from HP.  It included some calculators, and was a fascinating
read.  I still refer back to it.  If such a book exists specifically
devoted to their calculators, I would like to get a copy.

Sounds like you guys had fun...

-Chris Lott

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              John <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Wireless internet for 200 lx (cant use ricochet)
Comments: To: acorso@IBM.NET
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Tony,
I have been working on having a wireless connection, using the 100lx that I
use constantly.

Bell Atlantic has 'air bridge' and several external modems as large as the
hp palmtops so they are hardly useful.

They also have a palmtop/CONTACT that is a CE based item with both a
cellular and a landline modem built in...looks just like a 200lx with a
folding aerial on the hinge...$699 with a signup for unlimited time...no
one in their Baltimore stores can explain or demo it.

The bes answer is uniden Data 2000 CDPD Wireless Modem which is a pcmcia
card with a digital cellular packet card attacched...se www.mplanet.com...

With GoAmmerica activation there is $150 rebate.

John Carlo

At 09:53 AM 7/4/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Ricochet, (what i believe to be the fastest wireless internet), wont
>work in my part of Manhattan, so i need to use one of the cell
>networks.
>
>I'd prefer a flat fee for un-limited access plan. Bell atlantic net has a
>plan for 39.99 and a  pcmia (type II) modem they offer, (though not
>the only wireless modem they offer), draws 140 ma to receive, and
>850 ma for broadcast.
>
>any other ideas/possibilities
>
>thanks for taking the time
>Regards
>Tony
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:12:55 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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I am about to upgrade my digital mobile phone
and note  some "rumour" about the Nokia
8810 working directly via IR with the HP200 and
WWW/LX.

This sounds like an ideal solution for me as it
means that I can use the A drive for addional
hard drive capacity (currently 20mB).

Questions for those in the know 8-)

1.  Is it that simple?
2.  What is battery life like when driving the
     IR port for communications (is it better
     than a PCMIA modem).
3. Will the Nokia 8810 be capable of higher
    comm rates than 9600 when the new
    digital networks arrive.
4. Is is robust?
5. Who would like to swap a Nokia 8810
    for a 33.3 Motorola PCMIA modem <grin>.

Best regards to all.........Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:50:03 -0400
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              Jonathan Teich <jteich@MEDIAONE.NET>
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Thanks, David -- I wasn't going to bother to respond to that note.

PS The restore isn't actually that much of a pain, I just needed the
notes from the last couple of days.  But it got me to wondering about
how to handle it if it were to happen again.  As it turns out, an
immediate Undo (as suggested by fjkaufman) would probably have done the
trick.

Jonathan

> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 4 Jul 1999 10:27:27 -0700
> From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> Subject: Re: HP200LX Appt Book restore?
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> > Where the frig is your backup copy?!
>
> <snip long, Unabomber-esque rant>
>
> Geez, Stan.  <snip> ...no need to make people who are having
> to cope with the loss of loved data feel worse by brutally shredding
them
> in public.
>

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:34:35 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: HV - once again...
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>

A Meshar writes:
> 8. API: Well, Next week Andreas and I will talk. This is one of many topics. I
> think that it must be to have public APIs in the public product. This would
> leave the possibility of several TCP/IP engines. What I mean: Say the browser
> has published APIs. That means that we can adjust WWW.EXE to work with it, and
> other products can do the same. (Rod? Steve? - is this correct?) This would
> instantly put a mix of products on our palmtops, with relative strengths and
> weaknesses, so we can tailor the use to our own requirements.

Yes, that's correct.  My suggestion would be the Trumpet TCP/IP ABI
(Andreas should still have the URL that I sent him a while back,
otherwise look at ftp://ftp.trumpet.com/tcp-abi/tcp201.spe).  This is
an API which is just like the packet driver API, but one level up. It
is an open specification, and can be redistributed freely.

If we think that we need more functionality, then we can build upon
this base and collectively decide upon a better API.

Then Steve & I (or someone else with better TSR knowledge) could also
write a open-source wrapper around the WatTCP stack (which GP and
LXTCP both use) to also support the same API.

This would allow us to "mix and match" TCP stacks (LXTCP/GP & WWW/LX) and
clients ("The Browser", LXTCP apps, GP, maybe other D&A apps?).

I've already begun looking at making LXTCP a TCP/IP TSR that can
accept multiple clients (including TSR servers) - if anyone out there
is good with TSR's and would like to help, please let me know.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:17:33 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXB/batch questions
Comments: To: Ripin Pen <ripin@dnet.net.id>

Ripin Pen writes:
> I am trying to make a batch file by LXB to automate my epppd connection
> My question is: what is the errorlevel if you can't get the line connected
> AND/OR you get the line BUT fail in modem negotiation? (assume it has one).

I check for the existence of ip-up.bat - if it exists, then continue,
otherwise: try, try again.

If we could get Toni to release the source code to DosPPP, then we'd be
able to return useful errorlevels to distinguish the different types of
failure.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:12:42 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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danaan@IINET.NET.AU Liam M. Early wrote:
> I am about to upgrade my digital mobile phone
> and note  some "rumour" about the Nokia
> 8810 working directly via IR with the HP200 and
> WWW/LX.
...
> 1.  Is it that simple?

In WWW/LX just set the port to -1 instead of 1 for the external and 2
for the PCMCIA port. That's all it takes to make the 8810 work with
WWW/LX (apart from turning on IR on the phone).

> 2.  What is battery life like when driving the
> IR port for communications (is it better
> than a PCMIA modem).

It certainly takes less power than a PCMCIA modem. I have no numbers
available though.

> 3. Will the Nokia 8810 be capable of higher
> comm rates than 9600 when the new
> digital networks arrive.

The 8810 could do up to 38400 PROVIDED the network is able to support
that.

> 4. Is is robust?

I am not sure I understand what your question relates to. The IR
connection? It is almost as robust as a cable if the GSM signal is
good. If the signal is bad, the IR connection gets lost easily.

> 5. Who would like to swap a Nokia 8810
> for a 33.3 Motorola PCMIA modem <grin>.

Not me. <G>

Andreas

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:14:06 +0800
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It seems that I'm able to download the graphic (press "ins"). But even if I
press the F9, the graphic still won't show up. This procedure works on
desktop thou. May be I miss some setting.
In order to view more in one screen, press"*" to turn the tool bar off.

Roger S.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 06:34:09 "GMT"
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              amanda <amanda@WINEASY.SE>
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Subject:      Re: IDE PCMCIA socket
Comments: cc: david@HPLX.NET

Just because a device connects to the IDE cable does not mean that you can't hot swap. It all depends on the device driver, if it recognises the media change.

Just look at CD-ROM, Iomega Zip, LS-120, Orb. They all connect to the IDE and they allow hot swapping.

You should really check with the developer of your device or device driver to find out if it hot swaps, and under which operating systems.

A.

On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> No, but I wasn't very clear, so it's easy to see why everybody thought
> that's what I meant.  What I have is a PC Card reader.  But rather than
> the standard SCM Swapbox type interface, where you have a controller card
> that plugs into an ISA slot, this reader just plugs into your IDE cable.
> The problem is, I don't think IDE is hot-swappable, so in order to
> recognize a flash card, you have to:

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 06:47:51 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, amanda wrote:


Hot Swapping deals with different HARDWARE being changed not
MEDIA/SOFTWARE

your thinking MEDIA only in a PCMCIA socket which of course the PCMCIA
was made for so much more so it's alittle more complex trying to compare
it to a ZIP/Floppy/Etc..

> Just because a device connects to the IDE cable does not mean that you can't hot swap. It all depends on the device driver, if it recognises the media change.
>
> Just look at CD-ROM, Iomega Zip, LS-120, Orb. They all connect to the IDE and they allow hot swapping.
>
> You should really check with the developer of your device or device driver to find out if it hot swaps, and under which operating systems.
>
> A.
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, David Sargeant wrote:
>
> > No, but I wasn't very clear, so it's easy to see why everybody thought
> > that's what I meant.  What I have is a PC Card reader.  But rather than
> > the standard SCM Swapbox type interface, where you have a controller card
> > that plugs into an ISA slot, this reader just plugs into your IDE cable.
> > The problem is, I don't think IDE is hot-swappable, so in order to
> > recognize a flash card, you have to:
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:58:10 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HARDWARESTREET- WARNING!
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> I am very sorry to hear of your troubles with Hardware Street.
>  I am not trying to defend them and I have no affiliation with
> them, but I just want to offer some balance.

Thank you.

> Then I followed the package all through Fedex via thier web
> site until it was delivered to me.  I ordered the product
> Tuesday afternoon and had it Friday morning.  I live in the
> USA.  So, my one and oly experience with Hardware Street has
> been pleasent.

I am glad to hear that you got what you wanted. However, as I mentioned
in my posting- it was a warning to people living outside USA. Even if
they clearly stated on their web site that they accept orders from
outside USA- I don't think they care about non-US orders! The fact that
we received the excuse that it's against federal law to send this product
outside USA, after 8 month of waiting, sounds to me like a very bad
excuse! As far as I know, the Accton card is made in Taiwan and the only
reason for us to order it from USA is the very low price.

Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. CompUSA delivered 2 cards to Singapore. But I can't say that their
service was specially good either and I will not place any additional
orders with them.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:49:50 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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There have be a couple of times that I've clicked on my CD Infobase icon
and the wrong CD was in the player. When this happens, the Hyper Reader
opens blank. I put the right CD in, but then for the life of me can't
figure out what file to open to get things back to normal.
I've been doing a reinstall whenever this happens (which only takes a
few seconds), but surely there is an easier way!
Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:00:35 -0700
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From:         Ripin Pen <ripin@DNET.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: LXB/batch questions
Comments: To: rwhitby@hplx.net

Rod Whitby writes:
>
> I check for the existence of ip-up.bat - if it exists, then continue,
> otherwise: try, try again.
>
> If we could get Toni to release the source code to DosPPP, then we'd be
> able to return useful errorlevels to distinguish the different types of
> failure.
>
Rod, you just made my life a lot easier today!  Thanks for the tips, it works
GREAT !!

Regards.
Ripin
e-mail: ripin@dnet.net.id

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:02:11 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: HARDWARESTREET- WARNING!
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Jorgen, based in Hong Kong, my situation is similar to yours. However, I
sometimes have the item delivered to my Los Angeles office and then have it
shipped from there to HKG. The California sales tax hurts, but overall this
arrangement works fine.

Anand.

At 06:58 PM 05-07-99 Monday , Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
>I am glad to hear that you got what you wanted. However, as I mentioned
>in my posting- it was a warning to people living outside USA. Even if
>they clearly stated on their web site that they accept orders from
>outside USA- I don't think they care about non-US orders! The fact that
>we received the excuse that it's against federal law to send this product
>outside USA, after 8 month of waiting, sounds to me like a very bad
>excuse! As far as I know, the Accton card is made in Taiwan and the only
>reason for us to order it from USA is the very low price.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen
>
>P.S. CompUSA delivered 2 cards to Singapore. But I can't say that their
>service was specially good either and I will not place any additional
>orders with them.
>

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:23:52 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Wireless internet for 200
Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Liam,
I do not have all the answers to your questions but think you may find the
reviews in the technology section of July PopularMechanics, on Telephony
another bit of the puzzle.

I have used a MegahertzPocket 14/4 with ProComPlus; and my 100lx with ACER
stacker card(10mg to hold the program)and been very satisfied with both
cellular connects and land line ones...spending an average of 30 minutes on
line several times a day to hook into the office server.

Look at the NOKIA 9000il Combo

JohnCarlo

At 12:12 PM 7/5/99 +0800, you wrote:
>I am about to upgrade my digital mobile phone
>and note  some "rumour" about the Nokia
>8810 working directly via IR with the HP200 and
>WWW/LX.
>
>This sounds like an ideal solution for me as it
>means that I can use the A drive for addional
>hard drive capacity (currently 20mB).
>
>Questions for those in the know 8-)
>
>1.  Is it that simple?
>2.  What is battery life like when driving the
>     IR port for communications (is it better
>     than a PCMIA modem).
>3. Will the Nokia 8810 be capable of higher
>    comm rates than 9600 when the new
>    digital networks arrive.
>4. Is is robust?
>5. Who would like to swap a Nokia 8810
>    for a 33.3 Motorola PCMIA modem <grin>.
>
>Best regards to all.........Liam
>Bunbury, Western Australia
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:48:40 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem
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Hi Don,

Aren't these the same ones Kent sells for a little less?
I think the price is $12.99 + S/H...

They should work fine, if they are the same...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don E. Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem


>Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems, Model
>1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or driver disks.
>
>Does anyone know if they wlii work with the HP200LX?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:54:22 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Wireless internet for 200 lx (cant use ricochet)
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Does the Bell Atlantic Type II PCMCIA card appear to the
system as a "standard" modem - or does it require special
drivers to work? If it acts like a standard modem, I'll sign up
tomorrow ('cause Linux & Solaris will be supported!)!

$39.95/mo is a real good price for unlimited 19.2K data,
assuming the coverage area meets your needs...

Good luck,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: DIGEST Tony Corso <acorso@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 9:53 AM
Subject: Wireless internet for 200 lx (cant use ricochet)


Ricochet, (what i believe to be the fastest wireless internet), wont
work in my part of Manhattan, so i need to use one of the cell
networks.

I'd prefer a flat fee for un-limited access plan. Bell atlantic net has a
plan for 39.99 and a  pcmia (type II) modem they offer, (though not
the only wireless modem they offer), draws 140 ma to receive, and
850 ma for broadcast.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:03:20 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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The difference would be that CD, LS-120, etc. allow media changes,
not the hot-swap of an electrical device... It might work, it might not,
but I would defer to the guy with the device and, (presumably) the
manual...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: amanda <amanda@WINEASY.SE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: IDE PCMCIA socket


>Just because a device connects to the IDE cable does not mean that you
can't hot swap. It all depends on the device driver, if it recognises the
media change.
>
>Just look at CD-ROM, Iomega Zip, LS-120, Orb. They all connect to the IDE
and they allow hot swapping.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:30:46 -0500
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              Karl Nelson <karlnelson@GEOCITIES.COM>
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I recieved permission to forward this post from the wearable computing list.
I'm sure he would appreciate any help he could get. Personally I would love
to have my HP in a wearable format.
Karl Nelson

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From: Charles J Knight İmailto:c.knight@juno.com¨
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 4:21 PM
To: wear-hard@haven.org
Subject: Building my first wearable


I have an old HP95LX palmtop, and it's got the dreaded "screen
blanking" problem.  Well, I've found a similar LCD in BGMicro's
ad, and I'll be trying to interface it to the unit...it'd be nice if I
could
get it working again, consistently.  It's cheap enough to toss, if
I can't get the new LCD interfaced.

First off, does anyone know if there's a fix for the display?  MIT
guys?  It's a Hitachi LCD sandwich...all surface mount with a
HUGE number of parallel traces -- the blanking problem acts
like a broken trace or cold solder joint.  Anyone?

Or, perhaps, does anyone have a broken old 95LX, with a working
screen?  Something I could scavenge from?

Anyway, down to business.  I want to build my first wearable, and
I have my old 95LX as a donor.  It's an XT compliant DOS "laptop"
with a motherboard smaller than a PC Card, and which runs on 2
AA batteries.  It also provides both wired and wireless serial I/O.

The keyboard, built into the case, is probably a matrix which I could
"reengineer" with a little work.  Its "connector" is a linear series of
"pads" which align when the case is closed.  Shouldn't be too hard to
work up a solution.  The stock keyboard is standard QWERTY,
but a bit bulky for a wearable solution, but small enough to be
difficult to touch type on.

While it's a limited system, it also has a suite of built in apps which
work quite well on its hardware, and which export standard formats.

Has anyone made a wearable out of one of these?  It could literally
be pager sized if done right, with only a few external peripherals like
a keyboard and a display.

     -- Chuck Knight

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:34:00 -0500
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Roger wrote:

   >Believe me, in spite of my comments I am sincerely sorry that you are
   >disappointed in your purchase of such a high-priced item. You ran down some
   >of your criticisms of the WinCE handheld.  Could I ask you, what did you hope
   >that it would do for you when you bought it, and what work are you actually
   >able to do with it now?

1.  Type letters and print them.  What I actually do is type letters and fax them to myself (chop off the headers).  Typing is slower than on the palmtop because the handheld lacks a sticky shift and I have trouble adjusting.

2.  Genealogy.  Take notes and copy down names and dates.  The notes are doable (even without sticky shift), but the names&dates thing is more awkward.  With the palmtop I used 1-2-3.  The handheld has no database and won't save/export to 1-2-3 or popular database formats.  The pocket excel file I end up with has to be translated on a Win95 or Win98 computer.  I can use a text file, but prefer to sort by name or date easily.  I also use a popular genealogy program on the palmtop.  I haven't found a good one for WinCE.

3.  Email and web browsing.  The email part works fine with one large caveat.  Messages cannot be longer than about 35K.  Therefore no digests nor emailed "newspapers."  Some messages are shown as "unsupported" format files, with no hint of an option to choose ascii instead.  Web browsing lacks java support.  I haven't found that too annoying, though.  I use my desktop computer for most Internet stuff.  The handheld or palmtop is used for grabbing a quick map or phone number.  I live in the Chicago area.  The handheld comes with a really nifty demo map program.  One of the free maps is Chicago.  I use this a lot.  Maps can be pasted into pocket word documents and faxed out.

4.  Fax.  Works much better than the palmtop for receiving faxes.  I would have to buy additional software to print faxes, however.  The work around is faxing back out to the next fax macine you come across.  The quality is suprisingly good.  It is very easy to send multiple documents as one fax to multiple people.

5.  Address book and agenda.  I'm still trying to adjust to these programs.  They are perfectly functional.  I like the programs on the palmtop better.  That might be just because I have been using the palmtop stuff for a few years now.  One really nice feature... when in the fax program you are offered fax numbers from your contacts file.

6.  I'm a pocket quicken addict.  Expensable doesn't look like it's as comprehensive.  None of the pocket programs come with a printed manual.  Just help files and online help.  I'm sure I don't know everything I would like to know about the various features.

If I can't use a 200lx, I will use the 620lx.  Meanwhile, I have to decide whether to upgrade my 200lx, or look into upgrading the 620lx to the latest version of WinCE.  Fortunately, I don't have to decide right away.  I want both.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:38:57 -0400
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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:

> a devoted customer
> who bought from HP (almost blindly), and I am not the only one :-(

That is part of the problem.  I don't mean YOU are part of the
problem, but blind loyalty is part of the problem.  In your
case, your (former) loyalty to HP was almost blind and you
would have bought almost anything they sold.  But since you
were loyal to a formerly good company, for you, it was a good
thing.  That is until the great stink of the WinCE machines
opened your eyes. <G>

The "bad" loyalty I am refering to is that of the general
masses being loyal slaves to the latest, greatest, flashiest,
and sexiest toys out there, like moths drawn to a light.  In
the case of WinCE, that light is the ultraviolet light inside
a big zapper. <grin>

But, if you really analyse the numbers, the WinCE machines are
taking a distant second place to the Pilots.  And what is so
flashy, sexy and way-cool about the Pilots?  Not much.  They
are just basic PDA's, but they are very functional, easy to
use, and the connectivity to PC-based apps is great.  In other
words, very practical.  So, not all of the general masses are
moths, some are smart enough to buy Pilots.

And I am willing to bet that a great deal of the WinCE
purchases are from people who bought last month's latest and
greatest and are now upgrading to this month's latest and
greatest.  An interest statistic would be to find out how many
people have more than one WinCE machine and how many of the
computers are laying in a drawer.


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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:29:23 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.
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Let's face it folks - HP has discontinued the 200LX. For some time there
will be support from HP and independent vendors. And then what?? As we have
acknowledged, the units will have a finite life span - on account of causes
- natural or otherwise.

Although the end-game will be a few years in the future, we have to think
of the next stage now. There is tremendous investment on the part of ISVs,
Thaddeus and the user community on this platform. It would be criminal to
let it all dissipate. While I am not suggesting the (blasphemous)
alternative of jumping ship (not when I have just bought a new DS 32MB
unit!), it would be appropriate to work towards a well thought out
'succession plan'. This would necessarily involve a period of co-existence
of the current and the new platforms, and then an optimum migration path.

Maybe the ISVs and other stake holders, who have the pulse points of the
(dedicated) user community, should take a lead on this. I have read a very
well presented article (whose reference escapes my recollection now) where
it says that usually the users are forced to shift to  new platforms at a
tremendous cost in terms of missed functionality, just because of perceived
'market expectations' for the latest and (supposedly) greatest platforms.
Maybe we can defy this trend and make plans for a smooth transition. Your
comments are welcome.

Sorry for the numerous parentheses!

Quite relieved that the world did not end yesterday as per some
interpretations of Nostradamus, but I wonder whether he  had foreseen this
fate of the HP palmtops :)

Anand.


 At 11:38 PM 05-07-99 Monday , Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>And I am willing to bet that a great deal of the WinCE
>purchases are from people who bought last month's latest and
>greatest and are now upgrading to this month's latest and
>greatest.  An interest statistic would be to find out how many
>people have more than one WinCE machine and how many of the
>computers are laying in a drawer.
>
>Stan

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:09:20 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon,  5 Jul 1999 12:46:18 -0400 (EDT)

13m45s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Jul 1999, Anand Rao wrote:

> it would be appropriate to work towards a well thought out
> 'succession plan'. This would necessarily involve a period of co-existen=
ce
> of the current and the new platforms, and then an optimum migration =
path.

Like most of us here, I would be interested in a suitable successor to
the 200LX - BUT -  which new platform can we migrate to?  What is our
target in a new system?  Presumably we're looking for something in a
similar form-factor that's software-compatible.  Unfortunately, this
currently doesn't exist.  ALL the @#$¬& wince machines are
substantially larger. Software compatibility is (sort-of) possible
with Ian Dean's XTCE, but there's the question of speed.  The only
wince machines capable of coming close to 2X 200LX speed with XTCE are
MUCH larger.  Psion maybe??

---------------

Criteria for a successor:

SIZE: Not a lot larger than the 200LX - including a keyboard.

DISPLAY: Minimum 640 x 200 B&W.  Less is unacceptable.  Backlighting
and/or color are nice, but we've got along this long without 'em.

BATTERIES: Should use standard batteries - 2 AAs preferable.  8-10
hours battery life minimum (with flash card).

SOFTWARE: Must use available software.  DOS compatibility is needed.
"Real" Windoze also.  Must use standard file format.

BUILT-IN APPS: Must be equal or better than 200LX.  Function is MUCH
more important than flash.  Must include a database, scientific &
financial calculator with solver capability, Full-function spreadsheet,
not stripped-down version.

PORTS: Serial, IRDA, and Parallel

EXPANSION: 2 PCMCIA slots or 1 PCMCIA and 1 CF.

---------------

Existing platforms:

Wince - the name says it!  Less functionality than 200LX.  Incompatible
file formats.  Bigger than 200LX.  DOS emulation available.

Psion - Lower resolution screen.  Is DOS emulation workable?

Mini Sub-notebooks (Libretto etc.)  Much bigger.  Abominable battery
life.  At least they'll run DOS apps and use a standard file format.

Anything else???


-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:07:33 EDT
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In a message dated 7/5/99 12:32:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET writes:

>  it would be appropriate to work towards a well thought out
>  'succession plan'. This would necessarily involve a period of co-existence
>  of the current and the new platforms,

I find myself so much in agreement with Peniel's excellent reply to this that
I will be brief.  What "new platforms"?  Besides physical convenience and
software compatibility, the key here is versatility.  People who want a
cool-looking gizmo to handle nothing more than their to-do lists and contacts
will grab for the Wince handhelds or the Palms and not shed a tear for the
200LX.  But where do the more adventurous or ambitious go?  Except for the
Librettos or the Vaios, ain't nowhere else, my friend.  Let me turn your
comments around:  Why don't you go to M$ and HP and ask them to explain to
you what their plans for "migration" are?  Let us know what they come back
with.

-roger-

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:49:09 -0700
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              John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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I am still trying to get help in understanding what initialization string I
need to get my 100lx with ProComPlus to initialize the Megahertz Modem...

here is what I can see on my notebook screen and hopefully this provides a
clue as to what our MIS guys setup on the Palmtop...

AT
OK
AT&F&Cl&D2\Q3\N7
OK
ATMIL2S7=45SO=0
OK
if I then type ATDT with the area code and the number I get
dialing,handshake and I am there....

If I read many of the letters/notes correctly there are several DOS
wizzards that read and reply....Thank you for any help in advance..

John

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:19:18 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi everyone,

Some days ago I posted a message, but did not get any response
(probably due the large number of postings which flooded the
list at this time).
I am looking for a program which sets and _keeps_ the graphics
screen inverted (like pressing On+/). I know that this kind of
program exists, as I used it some time ago. But now I don't
remember the name of the utility.

Thanks in advance
Reinhard



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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:07:03 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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What do you mean by it keeps the screen inverted... some kind of TSR that
constantly monitors the state of the screen and keeps it inverted?
Normally the screen should stay inverted until you switch video modes,
after you press ON-/.  When Buddy is loaded, and the "Maintain video
invert mode" selection under "Global preferences" is selected, it will
switch the video mode back to normal when you press any key.  If you're
looking for a command-line program to invert the display, LXSTAT on SUPER
will do it with the line LXSTAT D R ON.  This stands for Dİisplay¨
Rİeverse¨ On.  The other options are OFF or Tİoggle¨.

If you're looking for a TSR that maintains video invert mode even after a
mode change, I'm not sure if one exists, but I wouldn't think it would be
TOO hard to do for an experienced TSR programmer.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:04:27 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> I am still trying to get help in understanding what initialization string I
> need to get my 100lx with ProComPlus to initialize the Megahertz Modem...

To use a pcmcia modem you need to load the driver from the D:\bin
subdirectory.  Add the following line to your autoexec.bat file (see the
example on the C:\ drive which is REMed out in the example):

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

Then you'll need to tell your COMM, either the built-in Datacom or your
other COMM software to use COM:2, since this is the PCMCIA modem.

Remember pcmcia modems generally need a lot of power so either use the
ac adapter or make sure your batteries are in a good condition (NiMH or
good NiCad's recommended).

IF that was not your problem I do recall ages ago reading that some
version of Procom had problems but don't recall much more.


Good luck

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:16:16 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Suresh,

I have just caought up with this message and do not seem any replies on
list to you. I use a CS755. The phone settings you list match mine. The
flashing `DATA' implies correct palmtop to phone connection. The lack
of success suggests no data service provided by your service provider?

Are you sure data service is enabled - my supplier took some time to
actually turn data service on after I had signed up for it?

GaryS

> Folks,
> Am trying this combo for e-mail, so far unsuccessfully.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:22:13 -0400
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Has anyone ever played a game called SFCave on the PalmPilot
(it's my brother's, not mine!)? The idea is to control a
snake-like thing as it "flies" through a cave filled with
obstacles. It's a great game, and I was wondering whether
anyone might know of a PC version, preferably one which
works on a 200LX!

 -Mike

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:38:47 +0200
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              Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
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I have seen a lot of "OFF TOPIC" messages lately so it shuold be =
refreshing to read something on topic for a change  <G>

1. I have been trying to get WWWLX to connect to my new GSM-phone  =
Ericsson SH888. It uses the protocol "Irda 2.0" Is it possible to get =
som drivers for this.=20
I have tried it with IR.EXE and it is possible to get it to dial but not =
to connect.
Any input will be welcome.=20

2. I think that someone mentioned some drivers for Wordperfect 5.1 to =
use it on the palmtop.   What ? Were ? How ? =20
Any input will be welcome


*********************************************
Ebbe Horneman, PB 2055, 2606 Lillehammer,Norway                          =
  =20
 Voice:+4795788004, +4761288975, FAX:+4761269593
ebbeh@online.no    calsign:LC2RAT
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:35:52 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: SFCave game
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Has anyone ever played a game called SFCave on the PalmPilot
> (it's my brother's, not mine!)? The idea is to control a
> snake-like thing as it "flies" through a cave filled with

Sounds like Snake by Curtis Cameron. Check out http://cameron.hplx.net

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:36:16 -0400
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Well, if we're voting... 8¬)

I'll agree with most of what you said, but with a few minor adjustments:

>SIZE: Not a lot larger than the 200LX - including a keyboard.

I'd kill the words "a lot."  One of the charms of the LX family is that one
will slip into my shirt pocket.  Anything that needs a coat pocket is
useless to me, as I don't wear a coat most of the time.  I want to be able
to grab the thing, slip it into any of my pockets, and go.

Of course a larger keyboard might be nice, though as you said about the
backlight and color, we've gotten along without it so far.  Maybe a readily
available, (near) full-size plug-in keyboard (or keyboard and monitor
port?) would be a good compromise.  I also wonder if something like the
"butterfly" technology used by some of the IBM laptops would be applicable?
 Hmm, a fold-out keyboard? An *roll*-out keyboard? <Laughing>

>DISPLAY: Minimum 640 x 200 B&W.  Less is unacceptable.  Backlighting
>and/or color are nice, but we've got along this long without 'em.

I'd ask for a backlight or a crisper, contrastier display.  Yes, we have
gotten along.  But the lack of a backlight has been a pretty big pain for
some of us.  Some say it's because some displays are harder to read than
others.  Certainly the slightly greenish, slightly dull display of my 200LX
isn't as easy to read as my crisp silvery 100LX display.  (And yes, I'm
seriously considering swapping them!)

And one general comment:

>SOFTWARE: Must use available software.  DOS compatibility is needed.
>"Real" Windoze also.  Must use standard file format.

Good luck on cramming Windoze into a machine this small with that kind of
battery life and getting it to be fast enough to be useful.  It would be
nice, but I wouldn't hold much hope.

Nice list.  Somebody go make 'em; I'll buy one.

"If you build it... they will compute."

Rick,
who realizes it's probably just a pipe dream... but what a nice dream it
is.

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Hi David

> What do you mean by it keeps the screen inverted... some kind of TSR that
> constantly monitors the state of the screen and keeps it inverted?
> Normally the screen should stay inverted until you switch video modes,
> after you press ON-/.  When Buddy is loaded, and the "Maintain video

That's the problem. Normally. But there are some (DOS)-programs
which toggle back to normal mode again in some screens, so one
would have to press On+/ again and again. Buddy does not help
(Seems to work under Systemmanager only). I know that the TSR I
am looking for exists, and I darkly remember that the "keep the
screen inverted"-trick was only one of its features.

cheers,
Reinhard

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:49:22 -0500
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              Sharon Rose <sharon_rose@IRISHROSE.COM>
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On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 05:09:35 EDT Roger Feinman wrote:

<snip>
>  I haven't investigated Sony's version of the superdisk concept.  =
Anyone else
> on the list tried this?  I'm also waiting to hear from anyone on the =
list

I,too, would like to know if anyone has either a SuperDisk or CD-RW drive =
working with their 200LX, especially one with a PCMCIA-card interface.

So far I've checked with Accurite (they say their LS-120 works only with =
"DOS DOS", not with "Palmtop DOS"), Freecom (discontinued their LS-120 =
drive, Traveler DVD works with 200LX, ambiguous response about Traveler =
CD-RW), and ADPI (ambiguous response so far).

Sharon Rose
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I have a Pacific Bell Wireless Nokia 2190 phone and a GSM modem and cable
for sale.  I have used this many times with my 200lx and it works perfect.

In fact, last month I used the setup with www/lx and downloaded 190 messages
wirelessly while on vacation.

My work has switched phone services so I no longer have a service plan
activated on the phone.  It works with Pacific Bell Wireless which presently
has coverage in California and Nevada.

I'm asking $200 firm, for all.  I haven't done it but I'm sure the GSM modem
card can be used in a laptop as well, it responds to standard AT commands.

Includes:
Nokia 2190
Slim battery
Rapid charger
Nokia Datacard (GSM modem)
Cable from card to phone

Please reply off list.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:19:30 -0700
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Sputnik wrote:

> Hot Swapping deals with different HARDWARE being changed not
> MEDIA/SOFTWARE

Exactly.  For the equivalent to hot-swapping a flash card in one of these
direct-connect IDE PC Card readers, try disconnecting an actual ZIP drive
and replacing it with a CD-ROM drive.  Then try it out.  It probably won't
work very well... <g>

And yet the manufacturer of this card reader buries this fact deep in the
literature about it, saying as a footnote "Some systems or BIOSes may
require you to reboot to recognize media change."  Gee, nice of them to
say so.  The consensus seems to be that these readers are pretty worthless
unless you're using them in a DOS desktop with a good BIOS that can
auto-detect IDE devices on bootup (not, apparently, the AMI graphical
BIOS, which only seems to auto-detect while in the BIOS itself, though I
hope I'm wrong) and boot up very swiftly.  With Windows or Linux, the
bootup time is so long that these IDE readers aren't really worth it.  The
SCM Swapbox-style card readers are a much better bet for anybody who wants
to link their 200LX to their desktop via flash card.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 04:14:30 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Has anyone ever played a game called SFCave on the PalmPilot
> (it's my brother's, not mine!)? The idea is to control a
> snake-like thing as it "flies" through a cave filled with
> obstacles. It's a great game, and I was wondering whether
> anyone might know of a PC version, preferably one which
> works on a 200LX!

Judging from the pictures of the game I found, it looks like a cross
between the old arcade classic Scramble, and Snake (or Nibbles, or a ton
of other names...).

I don't know if there is a LX version, though.


Cheers,

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Karl,

If you resolder all the chips on the back of the LCD PCB it should work
fine.  My 200LX had a similar problem and resoldering took care of it.

HTH,
Tom


Karl Nelson wrote:
>
> I recieved permission to forward this post from the wearable computing list.
> I'm sure he would appreciate any help he could get. Personally I would love
> to have my HP in a wearable format.
> Karl Nelson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles J Knight İmailto:c.knight@juno.com¨
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 4:21 PM
> To: wear-hard@haven.org
> Subject: Building my first wearable
>
> I have an old HP95LX palmtop, and it's got the dreaded "screen
> blanking" problem.  Well, I've found a similar LCD in BGMicro's
> ad, and I'll be trying to interface it to the unit...it'd be nice if I
> could
> get it working again, consistently.  It's cheap enough to toss, if
> I can't get the new LCD interfaced.
>
> First off, does anyone know if there's a fix for the display?  MIT
> guys?  It's a Hitachi LCD sandwich...all surface mount with a
> HUGE number of parallel traces -- the blanking problem acts
> like a broken trace or cold solder joint.  Anyone?
>
> Or, perhaps, does anyone have a broken old 95LX, with a working
> screen?  Something I could scavenge from?
>
> Anyway, down to business.  I want to build my first wearable, and
> I have my old 95LX as a donor.  It's an XT compliant DOS "laptop"
> with a motherboard smaller than a PC Card, and which runs on 2
> AA batteries.  It also provides both wired and wireless serial I/O.
>
> The keyboard, built into the case, is probably a matrix which I could
> "reengineer" with a little work.  Its "connector" is a linear series of
> "pads" which align when the case is closed.  Shouldn't be too hard to
> work up a solution.  The stock keyboard is standard QWERTY,
> but a bit bulky for a wearable solution, but small enough to be
> difficult to touch type on.
>
> While it's a limited system, it also has a suite of built in apps which
> work quite well on its hardware, and which export standard formats.
>
> Has anyone made a wearable out of one of these?  It could literally
> be pager sized if done right, with only a few external peripherals like
> a keyboard and a display.
>
>      -- Chuck Knight
>
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Rod Whitby writes:
>If we could get Toni to release the source code to DosPPP, then we'd be
>able to return useful errorlevels to distinguish the different types of
>failure.

Have you asked him by any chance?


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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:51:01 +0100
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Ebbe Horneman wrote:

> 1. I have been trying to get WWWLX to connect to my new GSM-phone
> Ericsson SH888. It uses the protocol "Irda 2.0" Is it possible to get
> som drivers for this.

You don't need any special drivers for that. IrDA support is built into
WWW/LX, just set Port to -1 (in WWW.CFG).

Andreas

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The wish lists are a remarkable part of the
HPLX-L-archives, aren't they?

Most used words will probably be 'minimum
640x200' or 'minimum backlight', 'minimum
color screen' etc.

What do you think about the following
statement:

What would happen, if someone build a new
200LX (let's call it a 210LX) with the
following hardware:

- 386sx processor
- everything else would be the same

I state, that the most of the
'wish-list-posters' would quickly run and
buy it. All the 'minimum requirements' would be
forgotten, because now, the 386 processor
enables a lot of new toys (Win3.1, Linux, all
the good software that requires minimum 286 or
386 etc.).

The word 'minimum' is used a little carelessly
on the list. If the LX had a 386 processor,
the rest of the hardware (except e.g. the
IR-port) would be state-of-the-art. Wouldn't it?

Of course, it 'would be nice if ...'.
Bu wouldn't you run anyway?

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On 7/6/99 at 10:23 AM Stephan Goeldi wrote, in heavily edited part:

>What would happen, if someone build a new
>200LX (let's call it a 210LX) with the
>following hardware:
>
>- 386sx processor
>- everything else would be the same
>
>I state, that the most of the
>'wish-list-posters' would quickly run and
>buy it. All the 'minimum requirements' would be
>forgotten, because now, the 386 processor
>enables a lot of new toys (Win3.1, Linux, all
>the good software that requires minimum 286 or
>386 etc.).

I can't speak for "most"... but I wouldn't bite based on a 386.

Right now, I can run everything I've wanted/needed/tried to run on the
200LX.  At this point it does the job I need done.  Sure, there are more
things I'd have it do given the chance, but since those things are
presently done on my desktop machines running Win95, I expect that chance
would require Win95.  And, I fear, a higher resolution screen and a
pointing device to go along with it.  (Not saying those are on my wish
list, mind you. And yes, I know you can use Win95 without a mouse, but
having had to do it before, I'm not sure I'd be satisfied with a steady
diet of it.)  Of the things I can think of that I run on my desktop
machines I might use on the palmtop, none of them are available under
Win3.1  And to be honest, I don't think a 386 would have enough horsepower
to run them anyway.  So, for me, a 386 would be no significant change.

>The word 'minimum' is used a little carelessly on the list.

With all due respect: Not by me.  I said what I meant.  8¬)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:30:20 -0700
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              John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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my 100lx has ProComPlus loaded by a long gone from our company MIS director.

Using my stacker card for the program, it shows on my A drive; and an
external pocket modem from Megahertz; I was able to go to the Dos prompt
and type a command that would initialize the program,modem,and dialing
sequence.

I am trying to find someone who can give me the process for finding the:
1.initialization string, or command  2. let me know it is hopeless if I can
not program in Dos;  3.explain some commands I can issue in Dos to see
what's there;  4. none of the above but....

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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> HP is jumping out of the HPLX bandwagon.  IMHO this is a very good rea$on
> for programmers to do the same.

This makes sense only if you also jump along HP and into
whatever they are jumping in. D&A Software has no plans
whatsoever to exit the software market for the 200LX
machines. We think this market will last quite strongly for
several years, if not more.

Avi Meshar
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Hi Jeff,

> Take the unit to your priest or similar religious leader and
> have them bless it <g>.

That might work. You need good karma around these machines :)

> Along with this, try to open the screen evenly and not just
> lifting on the right side.

Along these lines, I usually operate the latch with the left
hand, and with the right hand I put the middle finger firmly on
the spot where cracks begin, a bit lower towards the tube. The
fourth and little finger go against the back of the machine.
The index finger close to the middle finger. The thumb at  the
right corner of what would be the top of the screen. When I
open the lid I try to control the movement with my middle
finger, to alleviate any flexing.

When I close the lid, the middle finger goes against that same
spot, with the thumb counter-pinching on the tube cap on the
right side. The index finger against the outside of the lid,
and the pressure is mostly from the middle finger. This has an
effect of pushing the lid shut from the hinge part, but also
eliminates the flex and the tearing effect it has on the
material around the hinge. I have a crack about 7-9mm long but
extremely fine, and it does not seem to grow at all... So
maybe my method works somehow. I hope :) ...

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David:

> If you are referring to the `Damark' that traded for over $30/share
> in 1994 and closed today a bit over $8 while the market has gone from
> under 4000 to over 10000 over the same period, I'm not sure it proves
> your point.
>
> Maybe another example would illustrate your point better?
>
> John J Vanderstel wrote:
> >
> >   Creative marketing works miracles every day.  Just pick up a Damark
> > catalog and take a look through it for undeniable proof. There is no
> > doubt that obsolete wigits are purchased every day in quantities for
> > pennies and then creatively marketed for dollars as solutions to
> > completely different problems.

I quoted both parts because I find this exchange fascinating.
I believe John's point was that Wince could be made to look
like a great machine and a desirable product with the help of
marketing and packaging. He brought Damark to support his
point.

I think he is right on - read on before disagreeing with me...

For years, Damark was popular and sold a lot. Then, slowly,
people awakened to the fact that they sold was basically a
low-end quality product.

The WinCE platform fits into this model perfectly. It sells
now - it is sexy, looks exciting and promising, and it is
packaged right for the "restless natives" - colored beads and
all :) ... Marketing bets the company (in Everex' case and
HP's case) on the timing: If they can push enough product to
make several boatlods of money, they couldn't care less if
the bubble bursts in two years!

An alternate strategy (or perhaps just another aspect of the
above) is that the expectations for quality can be deadened
by drowning it with hype. Then successive releases of the
machine can be even lower in quality and the profit margins
can be raised. (This worked with Windows and several Microsoft
products...)

Cynical? You bet. It shows the utter disdain and disrespect
for the customers. This attitude is bred into marketers by
current policies and curricula of B-schools.

You want some supportive evidence to think about? Well, here
is a nugget: We are now on the 5th iteration of WinCE O/S, I
believe, my notes are 15,000 kms away in Los Angeles. There
is still no way enter umlauts, accents, and other diacritics
in foreign languages. Why? It is not a sexy development - it
does not hype the product, it is not worthy of development.

In the same time frame, the o/s tripled in size, yest provides
no more than mediocre, lackluster, and primitive productivity
tools. But IN COLORS! And it "synchs" with another sexy (even
if somewhat overwheight and bloated) application on the
desktop.

The list goes on. I am sure many of you have seen such
examples.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:40:37 -0400
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              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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Could someone offer any advice on the proper configuration/use of Software
Carousel?  I have a copy I received free a few years back when I had a 4MB
memory expansion done.  I haven't used it yet and am wondering it's value
and proper implementation.

-Calvin

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Tue,  6 Jul 1999 09:23:04 -0400 (EDT)

04h59m29s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Jul 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Most used words will probably be 'minimum
> 640x200'...

> What would happen, if someone build a new
> 200LX (let's call it a 210LX) with the
> following hardware:
>
> - 386sx processor
> - everything else would be the same

Sure - I'd buy it, assuming "everything else" includes decent battery
life.  My "minimum standard" for a 200LX successor is the existing
200LX.  A new machine is going to be DIFFERENT, and that difference
must not be a step (or several) backwards.  In my case this was less a
"wish list", and simply a set of criteria for evolution, rather than
devolution.

Later

-Peniel
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I've been trying to get cclxpop to work with my megahertz XJ1144 modem.

I can get epppd to login to my ISP using this pppd.cfg file:

COM2
9600
crtscts
connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7650125 CONNECT"
user owensam
passwd *******
namsrv 165.113.166.5
namsrv 165.113.166.1

When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:

ICMP: Host Unreachable

then cclxpop exits with this:

POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net

Then termin.com terminates the packet driver.

Does anyone have a clue?

pop.hom.net is my correct POP3 server and I've also tried
owensam@pop.hom.net (like Eudora uses).

Thanks for any help or insight
Owen

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Maybe of interest to some???

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qui va vous permettre de r=E9soudre n'importe quel
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Hello,

     With all the comments about the "Dreaded Hinge Crack",
I took a close look at my 4 MB 200LX.  Arrgh, it's got one.
Anyway I use this very lightly compared to most of the posters
here.  A week (month?) of my use is equal to a day of some
of you.  It does have a stiff hinge.  It is almost invisible
right now, if the subject haden't come up, I probably would
not have seen it till it got much worse.

- - Change of Topic Alert - -

     With the discontinuing of the 200LX, I wonder what will
happen to the molds for the case.  I posted a while back
that if someone got a hold of the molds they could use them
to case a wax case and use them for a lost wax casting of
bronze or brass.  A dream of a durable bronze 200LX with a
scratch resitant silicide treatment.

- -

> Ebbe Horneman

> 2. I think that someone mentioned some drivers for Wordperfect 5.1 to =
> use it on the palmtop.   What ? Were ? How ? =20
> Any input will be welcome

WP5.1 works well on the 200LX with the CGA drivers that come
with WP5.1.  The standard text mode display of WP5.1 does not
even require those for normal use.  The recent topic was for
Screen Extender, a WYSIWYG add on.

- -
> Fwd: long filename support

Didn't the 4DOS command shell replacement add descriptions
to the filenames?

Steve

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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:40:50 -0400, Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> =
wrote:

> Maybe of interest to some???

Uh... possibly if I could read it <g>!

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Have you chk the wattcp.cfg? Is it correctly typed?

Roger S.
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=A5D=A6=AE: need help with cclxpop


> I've been trying to get cclxpop to work with my megahertz XJ1144 modem.
>
> I can get epppd to login to my ISP using this pppd.cfg file:
>
> COM2
> 9600
> crtscts
> connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7650125 CONNECT"
> user owensam
> passwd *******
> namsrv 165.113.166.5
> namsrv 165.113.166.1
>
> When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:
>
> ICMP: Host Unreachable
>
> then cclxpop exits with this:
>
> POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net
>
> Then termin.com terminates the packet driver.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?
>
> pop.hom.net is my correct POP3 server and I've also tried
> owensam@pop.hom.net (like Eudora uses).
>
> Thanks for any help or insight
> Owen
>
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John,

AT&F&Cl&D2 should be fine except that "Cl" should read "C1"


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Okay, I have installed HisWord on my LX... see I'm really not the Devil =
or
twit that some list members think I am <g>. Anyways, I can get it run =
real
spiffy from the DOS prompt, but am having a heck of a time getting it to =
run
from AppManager. I have all the Bible files in c:\hisword\av and the =
HisWord
program in c:\hisword. I have plenty of memory, so that shouldn't be an
issue. It runs fine from the command line by typing hisword c:\hisword\av
but when trying to run it from an icon all I get are some cryptic
characters, a beep and at the end of the cryptic characters "\tokens.dat
:Path not found". Does anyone have any suggestions?

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Jeff
I once had the same exact problem and contacted Tom Hoover and he also had no
explanation. I never was able to figure it out either.
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> Okay, I have installed HisWord on my LX... see I'm really not the Devil
> or twit that some list members think I am <g>. Anyways, I can get it
> run real spiffy from the DOS prompt, but am having a heck of a time
> getting it to run from AppManager. I have all the Bible files in
> c:\hisword\av and the HisWord program in c:\hisword. I have plenty of
> memory, so that shouldn't be an issue. It runs fine from the command
> line by typing hisword c:\hisword\av but when trying to run it from an
> icon all I get are some cryptic characters, a beep and at the end of
> the cryptic characters "\tokens.dat :Path not found". Does anyone have
> any suggestions?
>
> Jeff

Jeff,

My command line for launching HisWord from application manager is:

a:\program\hisword\hisword.exe|

In c:\_dat\hisword.cfg is:

İUser¨
Path=3DA:\PROGRAMS\HISWORD\AV_NIV
Font=3D2
Version=3D2
İView¨
1=3D1

Did you have something like this?



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:17:54 -0400, aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote:

> I once had the same exact problem and contacted Tom Hoover and he also =
had no
> explanation. I never was able to figure it out either.
> Tony Guzewicz

I wonder if it's related to any TSR's? Hmmm... I'll try to play around =
with
it to see if I can get it to work.

Jeff

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Message text written by INTERNET:Feinmanr@AOL.COM
>Why don't you go to M$ and HP and ask them to explain to you what their
plans for "migration" are? <

You may not need to go to M$ since M$ came to us several months ago.  I
recall reading something by Bill Gates in which he was talking about the
long term goals of M$.  I kept looking for his famous goal of a PC on eve=
ry
desk running M$ software but didn't find it. Instead I found a statement
that talked about "devices" that would work with the internet.  I'm not
sure what he was referring to, but it sure wasn't what I would call a
computer. It may have been a set-top box, a cell phone, PDA, wearable
device  or all of these and more. I'm sure that BG envisioned that all of=

these devices would have some flavor of WinCE as their OS.  As far as HP
goes, I think it's gone chasing after the will-o-the-wisp called WinCE. =

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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:29:32 -0500, Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> =
wrote:

> In c:\_dat\hisword.cfg is:

Duh.... guess what? If you put the .cfg file in c:\_dat it works correctly=
!
Thanks for the info!

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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At 10:16 PM 7/6/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Have you chk the wattcp.cfg? Is it correctly typed?
>
>Roger S.

Yes, I should have included it in the first message.
Here is my wattcp.cfg

# General configuration


my_ip=bootp
domainslist="hom.net"
smtp.server=mail.hom.net
pop.server=pop.hom.net
pop.username=owensam
pop.password=*******
cclxpop.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail\
cclxpop.from="Owen Samuelson" <owensam@hom.net>
cclxpop.sigfile=c:\_dat\mail\sigfile.txt
cclxpop.outboxfolder=1
cclxpop.sentfolder=2
cclxpop.keepheader=0
cclxpop.nodelete=pop
cclxpop.timezone=-0500

As far as I can tell, this is correct.
Any ideas?


>----- Original Message -----
>
>> I've been trying to get cclxpop to work with my megahertz XJ1144 modem.
>>
>> I can get epppd to login to my ISP using this pppd.cfg file:
>>
>> COM2
>> 9600
>> crtscts
>> connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7650125 CONNECT"
>> user owensam
>> passwd *******
>> namsrv 165.113.166.5
>> namsrv 165.113.166.1
>>
>> When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:
>>
>> ICMP: Host Unreachable
>>
>> then cclxpop exits with this:
>>
>> POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net
>>
>> Then termin.com terminates the packet driver.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue?
>>
>> pop.hom.net is my correct POP3 server and I've also tried
>> owensam@pop.hom.net (like Eudora uses).
>>
>> Thanks for any help or insight
>> Owen

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We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.  It looks like the HP
200LX will definitely be discontinued in November.  I'm sure you will
appreciate how HP has positioned the HP 200LX and Jornada line at its web
site -- NOT.  And I have already contacted HP about the untrue/misleading
statement about HP software that assists data translation between the HP
200LX and Jornadas.  (It is not effortless and it does not include
notetaker/database files).

http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html

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Hi friends,

is there any utility that's able to set the com port of the palmtop to
a given baud rate?

I tried MODE COM1 BAUD=xxxxx, but that only works up to 9600 baud. I
need to set it to 115200. If I try this, mode says 'invalid parameter'.

It has to be a command line utility, not a TSR!

TNX
daniel

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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:04:50 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.C=
OM> wrote:

> http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html

A moment of silence please..... <heads bowed>.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:40:04 -0400
> To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> From: ddb0001@ix.netcom.com (C. Martin)
> Subject: HPLX-L Form Response
>
>
> Subscriber Comments: Looks like conversions and syncs with Outlook
> (appointments) are extramly dificult. ANy one working on being able to
> sync Appt with Outlook?

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Subject:      Re: It's official -- 200LX to be history )-:

I wonder if HP would be willing to sell the manufacturing rights to the
200LX. It might be possible for someone to continue making them if they can
make a profit. I don't where that economy of scale achieves a balance.
Making the unit should be no big deal as the manufacturing process is
already in place. It's a matter of getting HP to sell the process (people,
machinery, copyrights, etc.).

Hal, do you think it would be something feasible for your organization?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein İmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:05 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ It's official -- 200LX to be history (:
>
>
> We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.  It
> looks like the HP
> 200LX will definitely be discontinued in November.  I'm sure you will
> appreciate how HP has positioned the HP 200LX and Jornada
> line at its web
> site -- NOT.  And I have already contacted HP about the
> untrue/misleading
> statement about HP software that assists data translation
> between the HP
> 200LX and Jornadas.  (It is not effortless and it does not include
> notetaker/database files).
>
> http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:36:46 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

>
> http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html


"...more powerful and flexible," my butt.  I left a comment
at their webpage saying essentially the same thing.

Ted

--
Theodore Heise   <theise@netins.net>   West Lafayette, IN, USA

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 1:15 PM
Subject: It's official -- 200LX to be history (:


>We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.  It looks like the HP
>200LX will definitely be discontinued in November.  I'm sure you will
>appreciate how HP has positioned the HP 200LX and Jornada line at its web
>site -- NOT.  And I have already contacted HP about the untrue/misleading
>statement about HP software that assists data translation between the HP
>200LX and Jornadas.  (It is not effortless and it does not include
>notetaker/database files).
>
>http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html


If they wanted to at least give their DOS LX users a fighting chance, they
should include
a copy of XT-CE DOS emulator with their products, instead of extras like a
REXX or an
extra battery.  Funny they would include an extra battery... its like saying
heres our new
unit which is superior in every way, but here take this extra battery so you
can use it for
one 20th the length of time you could your old 200lx.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:50:45 -0700
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A sad day.

If HP headquarters were nearby, I'd protest by melting down a Jornada on their
steps and recasting it as a fishing weight (on the 2nd thought maybe the
recasting is unnecessary),  while wearing my 200LX serial cable wrapped as a
black armband.

- Longden





Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> on 07/06/99 11:04:50 AM

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Subject:  It's official -- 200LX to be history (:




We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.  It looks like the HP
200LX will definitely be discontinued in November.

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I am disappointed, albeit not entirely suprised that you have chosen to
discontinue production of the HP 200lx palmtop.  IMO this was the last of
the truely innovative HP products.

While it is appreciated that you are making some special offers available
for 'upgrading' to the Windows CE platform I will most likely decline. I
have already owned a number of your (and other companies) Windows CE
offerings and have not found a single unit which I can make use of.

I do however have a couple suggestions / comments which may prove helpful in
your future design efforts.

First, is battery life!!! above all else battery life needs to be improved
in your Windows CE offerings.  The average battery life I have been able to
squeeze out of any WINCE unit is barely greater than your typical notebook.
Considering I change batteries in my 200lx seasonally this is a major
drawback IMO.  If your handheld isnt powered and ready to go when you need
it you end up not bringing it along which kind of defeats the purpose.

Second, in your offerings for previous HPLX users it may be benificial to
include a copy of the excellent XT-CE software which is a PC emulator for
Windows CE.  Among other things it supports the HP 200lx Int5 graphics mode
enabling a large body of HP 200lx software to be run within the emulator.
This would provide a better upgrade path for many users than an extra
battery (pointing out a weakness in battery life) or an extra organizer
(REXX).

So in closing... Its been fun. I will continue to use my 200lx and await the
day when someone will release another true handheld with enough battery life
to actually carry for a few weeks without being teathered to an AC outlet.
Maybe that handheld is yet to come from HP? if so they will once again get
my business... if not, someone else eventually will.

Thanks,

Dan Ridenhour
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:58:08 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Subject:      Re: It's official -- 200LX to be history )-:
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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<<I wonder if HP would be willing to sell the manufacturing rights to the
200LX. It might be possible for someone to continue making them if they can
make a profit. I don't where that economy of scale achieves a balance.
Making the unit should be no big deal as the manufacturing process is
already in place. It's a matter of getting HP to sell the process (people,
machinery, copyrights, etc.).

Hal, do you think it would be something feasible for your organization?>>

I have spoken to HP about this possibility several times.  However, assuming
I could raise the capital, there are many issues from HP's side that would
be difficult to address having to do with corporate policies, the HP name,
support, etc. Also, there is a real problem in the future ordering parts --
particularly screens.  I haven't given up, but I don't think it will be
possible.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:10:18 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Q:  Why is Hewlett-Packard discontinuing DOS-based Palmtops?

A:  HP is upgrading customers in this form factor to the HP Jornada =
family of
    Handheld PCs, which use Windows CE.

I didn't want to assimilated..... uh.... I mean upgraded.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:16:25 -0700
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I've got a problem with Exkey.  The reason I load it at all is because I
need some of the macro functionality it provides for use in SMMX--
specifically the larger-than-normal keystroke buffer and the {Wait}
command.  (Both are required to get Lotus 1-2-3 to open a file when you
select it in SMMX.)  However, Exkey seems to disable the Ctrl-Arrow and
Shfit-Arrow key combinations, which I find extremely annoying.  Does
anybody know a way around this?

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:18:36 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Subject:      Re: It's official -- 200LX to be history (:
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Tue,  6 Jul 1999 15:11:19 -0400 (EDT)

01h06m28s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Jul 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.

> http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html

<rant>
Visited there.  Left 'em a piece of my mind.  I for one will NOT buy
any future HP handhelds as long as HP is nothing but a shill for
Micro$haft.  When the time comes that I need to find a replacement for
my trusty 200LX, it will NOT come from HP/Micro$haft!
</rant>

-Peniel
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:16:25 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> Does anybody know a way around this?

No, you will be assimilated.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:40:19 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue,  6 Jul 1999 15:32:22 -0400 (EDT)

"You will be assimiliated - resistance is futile"

                                -  HP/Micro$haft
<rant>
Well even if resistance IS futile, we gotta resist anyway.  To misquote
the bumper sticker - "They'll take away my 200LX when they pry it from
my cold, dead fingers"
</rant>


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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:48:10 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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From:         Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
Subject:      Re: HisWord... help.... please...
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Jeff,
Try putting the "C:\hisword\av" in the path statement in the hisword.cfg
file. Then from AppManager I have it running under maxdos like this:
c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\hisword\hisword.exe|

It runs nicely for me like this. My problem is that I can't seem to get
the Notes function to work. I get an error that says "Editor Error"
everytime I try to edit a note. I'm pretty sure I have the cfg file set
up correctly to find the editor, but no go.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns İSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 10:39 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      HisWord... help.... please...
>
> Okay, I have installed HisWord on my LX... see I'm really not the
> Devil or
> twit that some list members think I am <g>. Anyways, I can get it run
> real
> spiffy from the DOS prompt, but am having a heck of a time getting it
> to run
> from AppManager. I have all the Bible files in c:\hisword\av and the
> HisWord
> program in c:\hisword. I have plenty of memory, so that shouldn't be
> an
> issue. It runs fine from the command line by typing hisword
> c:\hisword\av
> but when trying to run it from an icon all I get are some cryptic
> characters, a beep and at the end of the cryptic characters
> "\tokens.dat
> :Path not found". Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Jeff
>
>            ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
>            ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
>            ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
>            --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:49:47 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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Just in case some one hasn't heard of this website:
www.recycledsoftware.com
They sell older software, here is a clip of some of the stuff they had
that I found interesting:

--- begin of clip ---

AS OF 06/25/99                             REGISTRATION
                                    MEDIA     NO   YES  CODE    MANUFACTUR=
ER
OPERATING SYSTEMS
-----------------
MS DOS 5.0 FULL PKG                 CHOICE   $19       MCS486   MICROSOFT
MS DOS 5.0 FULL PKG 360K/720K/1.2MB CHOICE   $24       MCS486D  MICROSOFT
MS DOS 5.0 ITALIAN OEM              360K           $25 MCS48IO  MICROSOFT
MS DOS 5.0 ITALIAN UPGRADE          360K           $25 MCS48IU  MICROSOFT
MS DOS 5.0 UPGRADE                  CHOICE   $15       MCS486U  MICROSOFT
                                    MEDIA     NO   YES  CODE    MANUFACTUR=
ER
SPREADSHEETS
------------
LOTUS 123 2.4                       CHOICE   $69   $89 LOT442   LOTUS
LOTUS 123 2.4 NODE (MANUALS ONLY)   CHOICE   $39       LOT442N  LOTUS


To order call 800-851-2425 Monday through Friday 7AM-3PM (PST) for
availability.

--- end of clip ---

FYI




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan  USA
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:50:00 -0500
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              Kurt Hopfensperger <kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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To add insult to injury, you can get a REX-3 for $59.99 at CDW and I've seen
the Jornada 820 for as little as $699, making their downgrade "deal" cost
$40 more than just buying those 2 items mail order ...

HP doesn't seem terribly concerned about its past customers ...

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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: It's official -- 200LX to be history (:
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:04:50 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS=
.C
> OM> wrote:
>
> > http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html
>
> A moment of silence please..... <heads bowed>.
>
> Jeff

Now that you got that bible up & running on your LX, find out if there
is any prayer that would be applicable :-)




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Subject:      WWW/LX FIFO=1 LINE
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I seemed to misplace the thread that reccommended adding the line:
FIFO=3D1 to the www.cfg file for enhancing the performance of WWW/LX.  I
added it to my www.cfg file as follows:

--- BEGIN OF FILE ---

İSetup¨
ISP_PPP1=3DLANDLINE TO PONTIAC POP-FROM WORK

İScript¨
CHAP_Script=3DPPP dial up using CHAP or PAP

İISP_PPP1¨
Port=3D2
Baud=3D38400
Modem=3D1
PPP=3D1
Login=3Dhocking
-- password entry removed --
ModemInit=3DAT&F
Dial=3DATDT number removed
DNS_IP=3Dremoved
DNS2_IP=3Dremoved
Script=3DCHAP_Script
My_IP=3D0.0.0.0
FIFO=3D1

İCHAP_Script¨
e=3DInitializing modem
m=3D
s=3D\r
w=3D5 OK
d=3D
s=3D\r
w=3D75 CONNECT

--- END OF FILE ---

Did I put this in the correct spot in the correct file?  I don't seem
to notice any difference, but I did not perform any download test
before & after adding the line to my cfg file.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Render unto CE'sers the things that are CE'sers, and unto DOS the things that
are DOS'.






Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> on 07/06/99 12:58:44 PM

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Subject:  Re: It's official -- 200LX to be history (:




> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:04:50 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.C
> OM> wrote:
>
> > http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html
>
> A moment of silence please..... <heads bowed>.
>
> Jeff

Now that you got that bible up & running on your LX, find out if there
is any prayer that would be applicable :-)

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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:11:16 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

> Render unto CE'sers the things that are CE'sers, and unto DOS the =
things that
> are DOS'.

ROTFLMAO!

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:23:49 -0400
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How good or bad (especially speed) is XT-CE?  I'm considering a CE machine
for it's ability to dove-tail with Outlook98.  If XT-CE is a resonable
solution to running those "gotta have apps" I'll consider making the
switch...

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:30:44 -0700
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Calvin Ledford wrote:

> How good or bad (especially speed) is XT-CE?  I'm considering a CE
> machine for it's ability to dove-tail with Outlook98.  If XT-CE is a
> resonable solution to running those "gotta have apps" I'll consider
> making the switch...

From what I hear, it's decent, but very, very slow.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:21:04 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: XT-CE


>On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Calvin Ledford wrote:
>
>> How good or bad (especially speed) is XT-CE?  I'm considering a CE
>> machine for it's ability to dove-tail with Outlook98.  If XT-CE is a
>> resonable solution to running those "gotta have apps" I'll consider
>> making the switch...
>
>>From what I hear, it's decent, but very, very slow.

You need a 75mhz WinCE unit to equal an 8mhz XT (ie: an HPLX). with some
of the later WinCE units having 100-133mhz processors XT-CE should be peppy,
but on slower units it drags.   If it had a landscape mode (rotating the
screen) for
use with PS/PC's i would consider it in combination with a Casio E-100 with
its
TFT color screen, and 131mhz processor.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:39:50 -0700
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> You need a 75mhz WinCE unit to equal an 8mhz XT (ie: an HPLX). with
> some of the later WinCE units having 100-133mhz processors XT-CE
> should be peppy, but on slower units it drags.  If it had a landscape
> mode (rotating the screen) for use with PS/PC's i would consider it in
> combination with a Casio E-100 with its TFT color screen, and 131mhz
> processor.

The Jornada 680 runs XT-CE at about 2/3 the speed of a double-speed 200LX,
but the screen updates are pretty slow.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:37:23 -0500
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:23:49 -0400, Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET> =
wrote:

> How good or bad (especially speed) is XT-CE?  I'm considering a CE =
machine
> for it's ability to dove-tail with Outlook98.  If XT-CE is a resonable
> solution to running those "gotta have apps" I'll consider making the
> switch...

There's an old phrase that comes to mind when speaking of XT-CE, "Slow as
Christmas" although it is somewhat functional.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:29:35 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: XT-CE


>On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
>> You need a 75mhz WinCE unit to equal an 8mhz XT (ie: an HPLX). with
>> some of the later WinCE units having 100-133mhz processors XT-CE
>> should be peppy, but on slower units it drags.  If it had a landscape
>> mode (rotating the screen) for use with PS/PC's i would consider it in
>> combination with a Casio E-100 with its TFT color screen, and 131mhz
>> processor.
>
>The Jornada 680 runs XT-CE at about 2/3 the speed of a double-speed 200LX,
>but the screen updates are pretty slow.

Hmm.  How fast is the 680?  I think it works better on some processor
families as
well (ie: SH better than MIPS, or vice versa) but not sure which is better
off hand.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:43:04 -0500
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I believe the Bible does say something about the "End days" where good will be
called evil & evil called good.  Our days are numberd.


Don.

 -----Original Message-----
> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:04:50 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS=
..C
> OM> wrote:
>
> > http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinue200.html
>
> A moment of silence please..... <heads bowed>.
>
> Jeff

Now that you got that bible up & running on your LX, find out if there
is any prayer that would be applicable :-)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:45:41 -0400
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What is the latest version of Minifax (the software that comes with the EXP
modems)?

Will someone please explain how to make a new cover with Minifax?
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:51:03 -0700
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> Hmm.  How fast is the 680?  I think it works better on some processor
> families as well (ie: SH better than MIPS, or vice versa) but not sure
> which is better off hand.

The 680 uses a 133MHz SH3 CPU.  If XT-CE is recompiled for a StrongARM CPU
(which it may be; I'm not sure, as the web site seems to be down, for me
at least) the 190MHz Jornada 820 "handheld" machine should run XT-CE at
nearly the speed of the 200LX, processor-wise.  But the screen updates are
several times slower than on a real 200LX, so they probably still wouldn't
be as fast.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:38:24 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: XT-CE


>On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
>> Hmm.  How fast is the 680?  I think it works better on some processor
>> families as well (ie: SH better than MIPS, or vice versa) but not sure
>> which is better off hand.
>
>The 680 uses a 133MHz SH3 CPU.  If XT-CE is recompiled for a StrongARM CPU
>(which it may be; I'm not sure, as the web site seems to be down, for me
>at least) the 190MHz Jornada 820 "handheld" machine should run XT-CE at
>nearly the speed of the 200LX, processor-wise.  But the screen updates are
>several times slower than on a real 200LX, so they probably still wouldn't
>be as fast.

Ouch. Well perhaps thats not a good choice after all.  Hmm. looks like ill
keep my HP 1000cx
im using now (when im not using my Palm V) and see what happens.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:56:17 -0400
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I wrote:
  "Will someone please explain how to make a new cover with Minifax?"

That is, a cover sheet with graphics.  Like the *.cov.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:07:52 GMT
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:04:50 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote:

>We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.  It looks like the=
 HP
>200LX will definitely be discontinued in November.  I'm sure you will
>appreciate how HP has positioned the HP 200LX and Jornada line at its =
web
>site -- NOT.  And I have already contacted HP about the =
untrue/misleading
>statement about HP software that assists data translation between the HP
>200LX and Jornadas.  (It is not effortless and it does not include
>notetaker/database files).

And it requires you to have M$ Schedule on your desktop machine - =
something
I wouldn't give house room if it was free. I am supposed to use it at =
work,
but actually enter all the appointments into my HP instead.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:28:29 -0700
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I was delighted to read the many clever comments people including myself have left HP regarding the 200LX.
Does anyone believe that a carefully planned letter campaign could change HP's direction in terms of engineering a real 200LX successor?

Is CE really the unavoidable future of all HP palmtops?

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:34:20 -0700
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The solution to the Exkey trouble I was having was to not load it in
autoexec.bat but in hp1.bat (so it would only run in Software Carousel
work area 1) and also to load System Manager with the command "100" and
not "200".

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:46:10 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue,  6 Jul 1999 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT)

17m04s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Jul 1999, Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> Does anyone believe that a carefully planned letter campaign could =
change
> HP's direction in terms of engineering a real 200LX successor?

Not really, but it feels good to tell 'em what we think!

> Is CE really the unavoidable future of all HP palmtops?

Sadly, yes.  HP has been assimiliated by the Borg.


-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:51:55 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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>What would happen, if someone build a new
>200LX (let's call it a 210LX) with the
>following hardware:
>
>- 386sx processor
>- everything else would be the same

More base memory would have to be added also
to make use of the extended addressing.  But
fix the hinge crack, add about 8 - 16 megs of
memory, and maybe DOS 6.2.  Yeah, I'dd take a
look.  It would run Win 3.1 well.

But a 486DX/25 would be nicer!

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:55:54 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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Subject:      Re: Letter campaign to HP
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>

I guess we should try, maybe works ! I don't believe that CE is the next
generation, I believe on Linux and all it's ports !

 /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
(=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
 '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peniel Romanelli İSMTP:peniel@WEB2000.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:46 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Letter campaign to HP
>
> Tue,  6 Jul 1999 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 17m04s ago ...
> On Tue,  6 Jul 1999, Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>
> > Does anyone believe that a carefully planned letter campaign could
> change
> > HP's direction in terms of engineering a real 200LX successor?
>
> Not really, but it feels good to tell 'em what we think!
>
> > Is CE really the unavoidable future of all HP palmtops?
>
> Sadly, yes.  HP has been assimiliated by the Borg.
>
>
> -Peniel
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> A few extra seconds of cutting the extra stuff off YOUR reply
> can save others a little effort and time.

Agree.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:20:51 -0700
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> > What cluster size is used on those upgraded 32 and 64 meg drives?
>
> My 32MB drive uses 1K clusters.  I believe the 64MB drive probably does
> too, but I could be wrong.

32 and 64MB use 1024 clustersize. They could use larger values
too. I updated my table of recent post, and reposted.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:21:16 -0700
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> You need a friend in the US to purchase the goods and send them on,
> listing
> them as a gift on the Custome Declaration :)

If you insure the content of a package, you must list the
content and value. Customs now have you!

Probably the best tactic, while illegal and deceitful, is to
identify the package and goods as "merchandise returned from
repair". Do remove most of the trappings that make it look
like a brand new item, though <g> ...

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:20:57 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Post/Lx what I would like in a upgrade
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Fred,

> You can use Ctrl-S to select which sets are visible and "active" but you
> will first have to assign the various newsgroups or mail-accounts to a
> SUBSET.  So, point to each newsgroup, Press EDIT (f7) and see the field
> called SETS.  Give it a letter of your choice.  Do similar for other
> newsgroups - same or different letter groupings.

Try Alt-S from the main screen to assign a box to a set.

 Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:21:48 -0700
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Chris,=20

> > and Wlodek Mier-D. - a legendary chronicler of HP
> > calculators history.
>=20
> I would love to learn how to get a copy of said chronicles.  Many years
> ago, I received a mysterious package containing a book about major
> products from HP.  It included some calculators, and was a fascinating
> read.  I still refer back to it.  If such a book exists specifically
> devoted to their calculators, I would like to get a copy.

I believe there is a www.hpcc.org ... Wlodek is sure to have
his address there. If not, let me know.=20

> Sounds like you guys had fun...

In a major way! :-)=20

I am now in Switzerland enjoying the quiet of the town where
Andreas lives. My body really needed it after the 24-hr din of
Cromwell Road. Suggest: Never stay in any hotel on Cromwell
Road. :-) --- One street away from the main drag it is totally
bearable, fridnly, relaxed. And about 2% of the noise. It got
to the point that I walked on these side streets, instead on
the main road.=20

I dunno about prices, but I speculate the side streets prices
are probably 25% of the main roads' prices, too :)=20

UK has made wonderful progress in the gastronomy. It improved
radically over the past decade. Now it is time to work on the
hotels :) ...

A good map will be useful. My own difficulty picking the
"right" place is that when I spent time in UK it was away from
London, and mainly I never saw the city. So London was
relatively new to me. I used to hang out in L. when I was half
my current age, but that was so long ago, I only remembered
main features: A few parks (but not their relatie location),
some underground stations, Belgravia, Thames, Big Ben (but not
the parliament blgd - to give you an example of the memory
lapses over 2.5 decades+...=20

I am culling some pictures onf the 150+ taken with the Canon
A5 Zoom and will put them for public view somewhere...=20

The camera is performing great! Battery life is not 100 hours
unless you never use the LCD. But it is quite long. The Li-Ion
batteries are expensive, but not that awful, and easily
available even in the tiny photography shop I tested! He got
my =A311.99, even though in the US I paid USD7.30 for the same.
The point is that the battery can be easily found.=20

Last night, Andreas plugged a video cable into the camera, and
the other end into his TV projector, and off we went --- Great
show! The only problem was that for sideways pictures, tilting
the camera 90 degrees did not help! ;-) ... Well, we tilted
people... Tony H. looks great! Gardens in London look good.
Got some exquisite shots of Buckingham Palace, many other
things...=20

So I like the camera! There are some ergonomics that can be
designed better... But another time.=20

One quick comment: I am using these Otter boxes mentioned here
before. I got three and packed, not jam packed them with
stuff. They are like rocks! I will take a picture of the two
deep boxes I use, then dump the stuff out and take another
picture... Quite amazing how much you can cram into these
boxes, despite the fact that their walls are solid and do not
seem to stretch :) ... I'll write more on that another time...

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> What cluster size is used on those upgraded 32 and 64 meg drives?

I just posted this a few days ago, maybe it'l help you.

I see I am missing the 64M info - Well, I just added it...

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:58:33 -0800
From: A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,Daniel
Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject: Re: BOOTDMOD
X-Mailer: POST/LX 2.2d

Daniel,

Let's do some math. The FAT structure on the palmtop can
address no more than 65535 clusters. So you have only limted
opportunities. See below...

  CLUSTERS REQUIRED: (updated 99-07-06)

                       ------------- Cluster Sizes -------------
   MB        Bytes        512     1024     2048     4096    8192
   32   33,554,432     65,536   32,768   16,384    8,192   4,096
   40   41,943,040     81,920   40,960   20,480   10,240   5,120
   48   50,331,648     98,304   49,152   24,576   12,288   6,144
 | 64   67,108,864    131,072   65,536   32,768   16,384   8,192
   96  100,663,296    196,608   98,304   49,152   24,576  12,288
  160  167,772,160    327,680  163,840   81,920   40,960  20,480
  225  235,929,600    460,800  230,400  115,200   57,600  28,800
  512  536,870,912  1,048,576  524,288  262,144  131,072  65,536

For example: A 40MB disk formatted for 512 byte clusters will
need 81,920 clusters to get all the storage covered.

For example: With 4096 clusters you need only 24,576 clusters
to cover a 96MB card.

Obviously, if your formatting requires more than 65,536
clusters, then you do not address all the space on the card
and there is waste. Here is a table for that:

   (updated: 99-07-06)

   MB   512-Waste 1024-Waste 2048-Waste 4096-Waste 8192-Waste
   32     0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
   40     8   20%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
   48    16   33%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
 | 64    32   50%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
   96    64   67%   16   17%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
  160   128   80%   48   30%    8    5%    0    0%    0    0%
  225   193   86%   81   36%   24   11%    0    0%    0    0%
  512   480   94%  224   44%   96   19%   32    6%    0    0%

In this table it shows in MB and % that a 512 byte clustersize
wastes 480MB (94%) of the 512MB card. On a 40MB card this
clustersize wastes 8MB (20%).

The last item you need to concern yourself with is the slack.
This refers to the amount of cluster not beinf used.

You need to know that each file is allocated on a cluster
boundary, i.e. in whole clusters. If you have a 2 byte file on
a drive with 512 byte clusters, the slack would be 510 bytes.
On a drive formatted with 8192 clustersize, this file will
have a slack of 8190 bytes. Slack cannot be be reused, i.e. it
is wasted.

As another example take a file 8190 bytes long. It will occupy
one cluster in a 8192-cluster formatted drive with only 2
bytes slack. It will occupy 16 clusters on a 512-cluster
formatted drive with also 2 bytes slack. The 8192 drive will
be a bit more efficient to access the file (one access against
the FAT will tell where the file is) than the 512 cluster,
where it would take multiple accesses to the FAT to find out
all the clusters that have been allocated to the file.

The program itself BOOTDMOD will work fine, but you may want
to be careful what you do... The info above will give you some
insight.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:11:51 -0700
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I got the same problems... but sometimes, it would manage to try to download one
message, and fail.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:39 AM
Subject: need help with cclxpop


I've been trying to get cclxpop to work with my megahertz XJ1144 modem.

I can get epppd to login to my ISP using this pppd.cfg file:

COM2
9600
crtscts
connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7650125 CONNECT"
user owensam
passwd *******
namsrv 165.113.166.5
namsrv 165.113.166.1

When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:

ICMP: Host Unreachable

then cclxpop exits with this:

POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net

Then termin.com terminates the packet driver.

Does anyone have a clue?

pop.hom.net is my correct POP3 server and I've also tried
owensam@pop.hom.net (like Eudora uses).

Thanks for any help or insight
Owen

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:21:01 -0700
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> > Ok, I'll take that as a serious offer. Could you kindly
> > help out by producing what you already offered once?
> > Produce the design of a better, tighter, more feature rich
> > browser. If you want to incorporate the TCP/IP
> > communication layer, than you probably have to design that
> > in too. Also what about the dialler? Scripts? How about
> > multiple ISP management? Well, I won't tell you how to do
> > your part in this.
>
> I disagre. Wattcp + Packet Driver (pppd or ethernet) provides a perfectly

I posted the above in reference to a suggestion that it would
fine to create a 600K browser, full of features. That size
would exclude the rest of what you enumerate.

> viable, configureable and /OPEN/ TCP/IP stack. Scripting and multipe ISP
> support, even automatic detection of various interfaces options (Ethernet vs.
> Modem vs. (soon) GSM Phone) is easily done with a batch file.

I have no doubt that the package is complete and marvellous.
It wont work in 36K though, right? :)

> In fact, building a new browser for the palmtop involves very
> little design, but more integration and software re-use.
> Probably the hardest design decisions involved is deciding
> which features of HTML to implement, and deciding what the

I would gladly be corrected, but these decisions seem like
"design to me. I am not a native English speaker, so feel free
to correct my usage of the word. :-)

> minimum space requirements are going to be (1MB of EMS or
> 4MB?) Face it, there are so many HTML browsers available in
> open source that it is basically a matter of deciding which
> one is the most space efficient and trimming it down to size.

I won't face it, I guarantee you. But having to go through all
this, deciding what's best, where to get this and that - well
- enjoy. Most of the code you refer to was not written with
the 200LX in mind, so presumably there maybe some work to mke
sure it works (e.g. CGA, 80186 instruction set, and maybe even
considering SysMgr's presence...)

> Of course there are palmtop specific display problems, but
> the majority of the work, such as the parsing and the
> rendering of the HTML, can be lifted from other projects.

That is wonderful news! I think that should make the
appearance of a new LX-specific browser that much speedier.

> I'm not saying that it would be easy by any means. Codeing and
> debugging would take a huge ammount of effort, and the
> feature/resource tradeoff is almost certain to leave very few
> people truely satisifed İAlthough some of those problems can

Yeah, these choices are a design issue :) ... How to get
around most of the complaints...

> the systems software for the space shuttle, either.

I was not suggesting it was as huge as the Shuttle software,
nor nearly that important. I did suggest however, that it was
not a trivial project, and that it would take significant
amounts of work (as you also point out), and much committment
from the programmers. And that was part one!

Part 2 was how and who and when will maintain the code to
add/fix items.

Part 3 is the support. Perhaps you discount it, but I assure
you from my perch as a person who supports HV and pays for it,
this is no cakewalk.

> A summary of what code should be lifted and and placed
> together, along with a list of feature/resource targets could
> probably be done in under a month, by a small group of people
> IN THEIR SPARE TIME. (Say 60 Person/Hours). And of course it
> would be made public. Open source is probably the only way for
> a project like this to get done without financial backing. It
> _is_ too big for someone to whip off in their spare time over
> a weekend.

Go for it. I think you are awfully optimistic, but OTOH, I
wholeheartedly agree with the open source point you make.

> So is anyone interested???

I would be curious to see how many...

Thanks Ryan. I think we actually agree on most items, except
maybe the term "design" and what it means. But I won't quibble
on that one...

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:57:07 -0800
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Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

I got the same problems... but sometimes, it would manage to try to download
one
message, and fail.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:39 AM
Subject: need help with cclxpop


I've been trying to get cclxpop to work with my megahertz XJ1144 modem.

I can get epppd to login to my ISP using this pppd.cfg file:

COM2
9600
crtscts
connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7650125 CONNECT"
user owensam
passwd *******
namsrv 165.113.166.5
namsrv 165.113.166.1

When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:

ICMP: Host Unreachable

then cclxpop exits with this:

POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net

Then termin.com terminates the packet driver.

Does anyone have a clue?

pop.hom.net is my correct POP3 server and I've also tried
owensam@pop.hom.net (like Eudora uses).

Thanks for any help or insight
Owen

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Try this, in your wattcp.cgf. remove the quotes if you have them from the
following line: domainslist=earthlink.net

It worked for me. (:-¨


HTH



Regards,

Qman...
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:17:23 EDT
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In a message dated 7/6/1999 03:59:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hocking@FLASH.NET writes:

>
>  Now that you got that bible up & running on your LX, find out if there
>  is any prayer that would be applicable :-)
>
Revelation 13:4

And they worshiped the dragon {M$} which gave power unto the beast {HP},
saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war on him?

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXB/batch questions
Comments: To: David Becher <davidb@netmedia.net.il>

David Becher writes:
> Rod Whitby writes:
> >If we could get Toni to release the source code to DosPPP, then we'd be
> >able to return useful errorlevels to distinguish the different types of
> >failure.
>
> Have you asked him by any chance?

You should ask Avi or Andreas that question ;-)

But seriously, yes I did ask a long time ago, and got the answer that
he would release the source to version 0.6 "after he had cleaned it up
a bit" - my request was the reason why he released the source to
version 0.5.  I've recently sent numerous requests to his email
addresses, and to the other people who worked with him, and to the
person who hosts his web page.

<soapbox>

That's the trouble with not releasing source along with executables -
he's now not answering email, and no-one knows where he is, and his
freeware program (for which he always intended to release the source)
is left to bit-rot as the Internet moves on without it (it doesn't
support MSCHAP).

Good open-source freeware is less likely to become obsolete, because
there will always be someone who will pick it up and fix or upgrade it
(as I have done for the DOS WatTCP stack turning it into the HP200LX
LXTCP stack and applications).  In the coming years as all the current
palmtop vendors are forced out of the HP200LX business by declining
sales and a decreasing user base, you will only be able to depend upon
open-source freeware to keep up with the changes that will make closed
proprietary palmtop software obsolete and unusable (as has happened
with so much closed proprietary software before).

Imagine the day in five or ten years time when the Internet has moved
to IPv6, and IPv4 is no longer supported by any ISP.  If you don't
have the source code to the TCP/IP applications you use, then you will
not be able to use your HP200LX to access the Internet anymore (as
the current palmtop vendors will probably have moved on to WinCE 2005
by then).

It would be great if we could continue to be supported by palmtop
vendors for ever, but it simply won't happen.  But open source software
can always be fixed or upgraded by anyone who cares enough to learn how
to do it themselves, or to pay someone else to do it for them.

</soapbox>

-- Rod Whitby, Snr Staff Eng., Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:17:40 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: Sorta Fluff: Excessive postings and more...
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> > A few extra seconds of cutting the extra stuff off YOUR reply
> > can save others a little effort and time.
>
> Agree.

Mentioning which person you are quoting helps too... ;-)


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:48:13 -0400
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> Judging from the pictures of the game I found, it looks like a cross
> between the old arcade classic Scramble, and Snake (or Nibbles, or a =
ton
> of other names...).

If I'd ever played Scramble, I'd confirm or deny this! If
anyone does have access to a PalmPilot (once again, it's not
mine!), I recommend giving SFCave a go - I'm finding it more
addictive than Tetris!

> I don't know if there is a LX version, though.

I was sort of hoping for a CGA DOS version, but it doesn't
look too likely. :-(

I don't suppose that D&A want to branch out into game
conversions...? Easier, less controversial, and far more
rewarding than web browsers! <g>

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Subject:      Re: a new 200LX
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In a message dated 7/6/1999 09:36:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
peniel@WEB2000.NET writes:

> My "minimum standard" for a 200LX successor is the existing  200LX.

Very well said!  That is why I expect to be using my existing 2x, 32M unit
for the foreseeable future.

The only remaining upgrade that interests me very much would be an enlarged
screen.  The current screen is about 1.9" x 4.9".  You could fit about a 2.5"
by 5.9" screen in the current space. That would increase the size from 9.3
sq. in. to 14.8 sq. in. -- a 60% increase, which would make for easier
reading.   As long as passive monochrome is OK, it shouldn't change battery
life much AFAIK.  (But I could be wrong about that.)


Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:27:24 -0500
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              SuperHighway
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Several months (maybe a year) ago, someone had posted a message about a PC card reader that was compatible with Linux.  At the time, I was only using Linux on my firewall machine and had my PC card reader installed in a Win95 machine.  I've now switched totally to Linux, but my reader only works with Win95.  Does anyone have a Linux-compatible PC card reader for sale?  Or, a pointer to one?  Thanks!

--
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Mitch,
I=F1teresting looking site... Wonder if they will sell the "housse de
protection" separately, looked quite sturdy (tho couldn't get a good
view of the top part...)
Suresh

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> Q:  Why is Hewlett-Packard discontinuing DOS-based Palmtops?
>
> A:  HP is upgrading customers in this form factor to the HP Jornada
> family of Handheld PCs, which use Windows CE.

It is very weirdly worded to say the least.

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> I've got a problem with Exkey.  The reason I load it at all is because I
> need some of the macro functionality it provides for use in SMMX--
> specifically the larger-than-normal keystroke buffer and the {Wait}
> command.  (Both are required to get Lotus 1-2-3 to open a file when you

There are other keyboard buffer expanders.  I don't know about the wait
stuff.

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> To add insult to injury, you can get a REX-3 for $59.99 at CDW and I've seen
> the Jornada 820 for as little as $699, making their downgrade "deal" cost
> $40 more than just buying those 2 items mail order ...
> HP doesn't seem terribly concerned about its past customers ...



You should point this out - see if you get any response.  I find the
same type of upgrade offer accompanies software in general - you can
generally UPGRADE cheaper by simply buying the new version yourself.

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Subject:      Re: HisWord... help.... please...
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:40:43AM -0500, Jeff Johns wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:29:32 -0500, Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> wrote:
>
> > In c:\_dat\hisword.cfg is:
>
> Duh.... guess what? If you put the .cfg file in c:\_dat it works correctly!
> Thanks for the info!

Hmmm...HisWord should have created the .cfg file _in_ the c:\_dat directory the first time that you ran it...

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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> There are other keyboard buffer expanders.  I don't know about the
> wait stuff.

Ah, but Exkey does it without expanding the keyboard buffer, which means
my keyboard buffer clearing program still works.  <g>

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Before we all start shooting with our scatterguns, let's figure out an idea
for an effective appeal to HP -- somewhat of a planned effort.

My thinking is usually slow, so I'm going to think about what to write HP as
an appleal to their decision and then write it. My appeal is not going to
include threats of boycott, slander, bad language and other garbage that would
hinder an appeal. There are enough folks on this list that we can at least
hope good appeals would make a difference. One letter on this list
particularly stood out that should be sent to HP. Don't remember who wrote it.

An address that I have for corporate HQ is

  HP Corporate Office
  3K Hanover St 20BX
  Palo Alto, CA 94304

Before we start writing letters, it would be most effective if we could agree
to a few rules, like to those above and -- all sent to the same address -- not
necessarily the one above. Any suggestions?

I think when we're really squeezed, given the choice of a 500 MHz 680LX w/20
hours battery life -- or the 200LX, we'll take the 200LX. The 200LX is
probably as close to ideal as we're going to get, especially w/3rd party
upgrades.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

"Erling, Marshall N" wrote:

> I was delighted to read the many clever comments people including myself have left HP regarding the 200LX.
> Does anyone believe that a carefully planned letter campaign could change HP's direction in terms of engineering a real 200LX successor?
>
> Is CE really the unavoidable future of all HP palmtops?
>
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:56:47 -0500, Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM> =
wrote:

> Hmmm...HisWord should have created the .cfg file _in_ the c:\_dat =
directory the first time that you ran it...

Weird huh? It didn't create it on my LX and also at least one or two =
other
users who have emailed me and said that when they moved it to c:\_dat it
worked :). I'm quite impressed at how quickly the software searches! I am =
a
bit confused by the docs, is the definition feature implemented or not? =
If
it is, I can't get it to work <g> but it does show the Strong numbers.

Jeff

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Yikes!  Even worse, according to HP's web pages, ANYONE, not just an HP 200
owner,
can get a REX-3 for $10 when they buy a Jornada 820.  Some deal for us loyal
200LX
owners ...



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> Kaufman
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> Subject: Re: Upgrade
>
>
> > Q:  Why is Hewlett-Packard discontinuing DOS-based Palmtops?
> >
> > A:  HP is upgrading customers in this form factor to the HP Jornada
> > family of Handheld PCs, which use Windows CE.
>
> It is very weirdly worded to say the least.
>
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Are there any cellular companies in NYC that use the Nokia 8810?
And would "internet use count against my "talk time", or could i
use it for an unlimited internet access?

thanks for taking the time
T




On 5 Jul 99, at 8:12, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> danaan@IINET.NET.AU Liam M. Early wrote:
> > I am about to upgrade my digital mobile phone
> > and note  some "rumour" about the Nokia
> > 8810 working directly via IR with the HP200 and
> > WWW/LX.
> ...
> > 1.  Is it that simple?
>
> In WWW/LX just set the port to -1 instead of 1 for the external and 2
> for the PCMCIA port. That's all it takes to make the 8810 work with
> WWW/LX (apart from turning on IR on the phone).
>
> > 2.  What is battery life like when driving the
> > IR port for communications (is it better
> > than a PCMIA modem).
>
> It certainly takes less power than a PCMCIA modem. I have no numbers
> available though.
>
> > 3. Will the Nokia 8810 be capable of higher
> > comm rates than 9600 when the new
> > digital networks arrive.
>
> The 8810 could do up to 38400 PROVIDED the network is able to support
> that.
>
> > 4. Is is robust?
>
> I am not sure I understand what your question relates to. The IR
> connection? It is almost as robust as a cable if the GSM signal is
> good. If the signal is bad, the IR connection gets lost easily.
>
> > 5. Who would like to swap a Nokia 8810
> > for a 33.3 Motorola PCMIA modem <grin>.
>
> Not me. <G>
>
> Andreas
>

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Subject:      Re: HisWord... help.... please...
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 09:24:58PM -0500, Jeff Johns wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:56:47 -0500, Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hmmm...HisWord should have created the .cfg file _in_ the c:\_dat directory the first time that you ran it...
>
> Weird huh? It didn't create it on my LX and also at least one or two other
> users who have emailed me and said that when they moved it to c:\_dat it
> worked :). I'm quite impressed at how quickly the software searches! I am a
> bit confused by the docs, is the definition feature implemented or not? If
> it is, I can't get it to work <g> but it does show the Strong numbers.

Yes, the definition feature is implemented...have you installed the Hebrew/Greek Lexicons?

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Ed, I agree with your sentiments, although I confess that I used the word
"migration"  with a more narrow sense in mind, i.e., how do I get my data
into the WinCE devices, and how do I use my apps on them.  I will stand by
these words: HP is going to regret the investment it has made in the Jornada
platform.  Price-wise and function-wise, it makes no sense.  Business people
will prefer the ultralight sub-notebooks, such as Libretto (which can be had
for only $300 more than a J680) or the Sony Vaio, which offers
photo-conferencing potential.  IT managers will be much more comfortable
installing WinNT on these boxes and knowing they are assured of complete
integration and compatibility with their webs.  The only path for the Jornada
line is to become true sub-notebooks themselves, thus kiliing the handheld
*computer* genre.

Here's how I marked today's occasion:  This afternoon, I bought a replacement
copy of Delrina DOSFax Pro, and a rare copy of allCLEAR for DOS v1.2, both
conpatible with the IBM/XT CGA platform with 512Kb of memory.  I got them
cheap, but it is money that I did not spend on another Hewlett-Packard
product.

-roger-

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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:55:40 -0500, Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM> =
wrote:

> Yes, the definition feature is implemented...have you installed the =
Hebrew/Greek Lexicons?

Ack.... no :( Are they also available from your web site?

73 de Jeff

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I (and a friend of mine have used the clear scotch double sided tape and cut
it and put it on both ends under the cover on the flat area.  Works for
several battery changes and then replace...  It's hidden and worked very
well for us.
JJ

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From:         bob <bobv@SOS.NET>
Subject:      Encrypted e-mail
Comments: To: ann <a_denburgh@bc.sympatico.ca>, barbara <NPAJA@NCIA.COM>,
          Becky <dochemp@c-zone.net>, Bob Foerderer <jj@valint.net>,
          doug <wstcst@wwics.com>,
          Embassy of Heaven <EmbassyofHeaven@Juno.com>,
          Glen <glenstoll@aol.com>,
          "Gregory T. Williams" <ekklesia@presys.com>, jason <a-c-e@usa.net>,
          Joachim Ayala <joachim_ayala@bc.sympatico.ca>,
          Kaye <kcase5751@aol.com>, larry <Youjo@aol.com>,
          len <lplusj2@nwi.net>, Mel Farnsworth <melfarns@fidalgo.net>,
          Qui Tam <bigal123@juno.com>, sandy <Shinn@Premier1.net>,
          shawna <slbenedict@stoel.com>, Jason <jace@methow.com>,
          av <avheron@mailcity.com>, Bob Pappajohn <bob@mpmercury.com>,
          Terry Todorovich <terryt@innw.net>,
          David VanDenburgh <dvandenburgh@compuserve.com>,
          Lars Olsson <olsson@eskimo.com>, bob den <bobden@mailcity.com>,
          Alden Elliott <awelliott@angelfire.com>,
          Marc Mcdonald <liegelord@earthlink.net>,
          Don VanDenburgh <dhvanden@yahoo.com>,
          Kevin / Shawna Benedict <krben@micron.net>,
          Kelly <dejure@olynet.com>, Margo Keller <keller@lasher.com>,
          Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>,
          Larry Feinstein <larryf@chutzpa.com>,
          Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Below is an e-mail describing encrypted e-mail. Something we all should
consider using.

Bob

--------------
The availability of strong encryption on the Net just got a lot wider,
with the introduction of two new ways to encrypt private emails. Both
Hushmail and ZipLip.com offer users strong--likely
unbreakable--encryption
without using specialized encryption software. Both are free to the
user.

Hushmail skirts U.S. laws on the export of very strong encryption by
virtue of its British West Indies birthplace. The 1,024-bit system
allows users
who sign up to exchange mail in a highly secure environment.

ZipLip.com uses a slightly different format which does not require that
both parties belong to the system. Instead, encrypted mail is stored on
a
remote server for retrieval by the recipient.

Both systems expand the availability for crypto to those who might never

think to use it. In doing so, they make it harder for the government to
claim that only those with something to hide need crypto.


http://www.hushmail.com/

http://www.ziplip.com/

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Comments: To: Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>

Owen Samuelson writes:
> I've been trying to get cclxpop to work with my megahertz XJ1144 modem.
> When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:
> ICMP: Host Unreachable
> then cclxpop exits with this:
> POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net
> Does anyone have a clue?

If you download the beta version of LXTCP (see my web page) and follow
the troubleshooting instructions in lxtcp.doc, then you should be able
to determine the problem.  If you still have difficulties, send the
output of the LXTCPCFG and LXHOST commands produced while following the
troubleshooting instructions.

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I'll open by stating I am not a WinCE lover but I believe you'r wrong.  The
recent wave of handhelds have much to improve but they will evolve.  Oracle &
Sybase are now extending support for handheld devices.  New embedded technology
is allowing company sales force to perform e-commerce & corporate inventory
syncronization via WinCE.

There is a lot of support for the development of these devices.  When was the
last time you saw an HP200LX software development kit sold at your local book
store? (ever?)  I just saw a WinCE kit at borders books.  They are not going to
go away.

Personally, I won't buy one until they look more like my 200LX (need my 10key
style keyboard)


Don.

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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>Here's how I marked today's occasion:  This afternoon, I bought a
replacement
>copy of Delrina DOSFax Pro, and a rare copy of allCLEAR for DOS v1.2,
both


I am using aceFax on my HP at the moment what are the benefits of
the Delrina DOS version?

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Daniel McDonough wrote:

>My 200 developed the crack a couple of weeks ago. I never abused it. I'm
>sure that the talk about HP tightening the hinge in response to =
complaints
>about lose hinges is correct.

I got my 200LX when they first appeared on the market (I asked my
secretary for a 100LX, but she delivered a 200LX). I've never had the
loose hinge problem, and I have recently developed the dreaded hinge
crack. So I don't think that either is the result of design changes
made later.

--=20
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In a message dated 7/7/99 12:15:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcollins@TRENDX.COM writes:

> Oracle &
>  Sybase are now extending support for handheld devices.  New embedded
> technology
>  is allowing company sales force to perform e-commerce & corporate inventory
>  syncronization via WinCE.

I'm aware of this, but customers can already run SQL-compliant apps on the
ultraportables, so where's the hook?  Battery life?  A difference between 5
hours and 7?  (BTW, sales people I talk to report users generally getting 3-4
hrs out of the Jornadas on a normal charge.)  Price?  (I forgot to mention in
my earlier post that upgrading the memory in the Jornada 680 or 820 to 32Mb
brings it on a par with the Libretto, but also roughly in price.  Which would
you rather have, a real computer or a vague reminder of the computer you left
behind?

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David Cripps wrote:

>My Maths teacher at school was trying to formulate the optimum speed for
>running in the rain.
>
>If you ran at the speed of light, you would intercept the total volume =
of
>water between you and your destination (your front surface area * =
distance *
>rain density), whereas if you walked, you would spend longer, but not
>collect that total volume, so there must be an optimum speed to run,
>depending on the density of rain?
>
>It sounds plausible, but could never formulate it (it was intigration =
with
>density, speed, etc.)

It's not that difficult, especially with your realization that an
infinite speed would get you the total volume of water between you and
the destination, but none on top of your head. If you go slower, your
front will still get exactly the same amount of water (assuming the
rain is steady), but your head will get an amount inversely
proportional to your speed.

--=20
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

>Below is an e-mail describing encrypted e-mail. Something we all should
>consider using.

I agree, whole heartedly. But the strength of the algorithm is only
one link in the security chain. These systems only provide security
if you have an encrypted path from your web browser to the ziplip.com
web server, AND you trust that ziplip.com isn't a government data-
gathering operation (Even if they're not, you still rely on their security
to keep your secrets)

On the palmtop, we do not have the benefit of 128 bit encryption in our
browser. But PGP does work, as well as several excelent tools that make
using it easy. It's a far better tool. It's free, it's available and it's
secure. No need to reinvent the wheel.

- -Ryan

>The availability of strong encryption on the Net just got a lot wider,
>with the introduction of two new ways to encrypt private emails. Both
>Hushmail and ZipLip.com offer users strong--likely
>unbreakable--encryption
>without using specialized encryption software. Both are free to the
>user.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQCVAwUBN4LkzeVIt5KWqunhAQGwKAP+IALIy3U+Tpp+5tb0nmscxXmQ015WMPcA
mlUr7gyxII9f8YupLYZoKyBH4Mt3PaZUyy2z+VK7C8UQs+dxuS/RrZsuBpEEAIZf
eJSgeVTuYEbktrDw//I/luyG49SCVPmgkhF3UaphHB44pXmoh4YafCkKz0pTaqMB
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<snip>

>Thanks Ryan. I think we actually agree on most items, except
>maybe the term "design" and what it means. But I won't quibble
>on that one...

Yes, the agreement is certainly there, and I won't continue to waste your time
with a fruitless discussion of the semantics of "design". I'm too lazy to go
and dig up my software engineering textbook and get a 'correct' definition ,
and it doesn't really matter. (Chances are, your definition is the one in the
textbook :-)

I guess the I just lost sight of the fact that you were looking at the project
as a business case, and I was looking at it as an interesting technical
challenge. I for one worldn't touch the project with a 10 foot pole, business
wise. The support issues _are_ a nightmare, and it would almost certainly end
up losing money. However, there are a number of talented programmers out there,
with expertise in the various required areas, and it is possible that with some
of co-ordination, we could get a new HP palmtop browser. Still completely
pleasing no-one with the results, of course :-)

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Wherever Everett Kaser may be, I send him thanks through cyberspace for the
technological marvel that he and his team produced at Hewlett-Packard, when
it was still Hewlett-Packard.  And I think we owe a debt of gratitude as well
to Hal, Ed, and their colleagues at Thaddeus for picking up the slack in HP's
support for this machine, and enriching our appreciation of it year after
year.  Also, to the Webmasters -- every one of them; the shareware and
freeware authors who added enormously to the already vast body of DOS
software available to run on the 200LX; the late and lamented ACE
Technologies, and all the other aftermarket providers; the leaders of the
Palmtop forum on AOL; and the members of HPHAND and this List.

We are the winners here, because we have a stable piece of equipment that
will last us for years and continue to serve many useful purposes.  You
simply cannot say that about a lot of the hardware and software that has come
and gone.  Let the bigwigs at HP pursue their ill-advised marketing concepts.
 Let Micro$oft have this round.  They are no longer relevant to us.  Forget
about them.  The world is too much fascinated by trivialities as it is.  We
are powerful.  We are productive and happy people.  We are satisfied that we
have the best that the industry has offered to us thus far.  I cannot think
of a better place to be.

-roger-

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>When cclxpop runs, I get the following several times:
>ICMP: Host Unreachable
>then cclxpop exits with this:
>POP>Cannont resolve host pop.hom.net

In wattcp.cfg you have the line:
domainslist="ip-number"

replace ip-number with one of the namsrv numbers
in pppd.cfg

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Some examples of brainwash:

"These color devices offer vivid color displays ..."

found on http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinueQA.html

The brainwash is: never speak only of a 'device'. Call it
a 'color device'.

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>found on http://www.hp.com/jornada/news/discontinueQA.html
>
>The brainwash is: never speak only of a 'device'. Call it
>a 'color device'.


Also a spelling mistake further on in the sentence, 'fopr'! :-) Must have
been written by a CE dude on a CE device.

br

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Owen Samuelson writes:
> At 10:16 PM 7/6/99 +0800, you wrote:
> >Have you chk the wattcp.cfg? Is it correctly typed?
> >
> >Roger S.
>
> Yes, I should have included it in the first message.
> Here is my wattcp.cfg
>
> # General configuration
>
>
> my_ip=bootp
> domainslist="hom.net"
> smtp.server=mail.hom.net
> pop.server=pop.hom.net
> pop.username=owensam
> pop.password=*******

Try to change the pop.server to be mail.hom.net.  It happened to me before and
I managed to solve it by changing the server name.

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>I've now switched totally to Linux

The future of all M$ crap-users!

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Bob,

> I seemed to misplace the thread that reccommended adding the line:
> FIFO=3D1 to the www.cfg file for enhancing the performance of WWW/LX.  =
I
> added it to my www.cfg file as follows:

I have it in the first section of WWW.CFG - not in the scripts.


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I was a happy spanish user of WWW/LX but from Dec-98 till now, I have been
unable to connect again. I think it is due to the new Internet phone acces
system stablished in Spain called Infovia Plus. The technical Dasoft
support could not help me.

Is any spanish user using WWW/LX successfully?. If so, please HELP!

Paco Lopez.

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On 6 Jul 1999 05:36:37 -0700, sponsor@FTEL.NET (A Meshar) wrote:

> > HP is jumping out of the HPLX bandwagon.  IMHO this is a very good =
rea$on
> > for programmers to do the same.
>
> This makes sense only if you also jump along HP and into
> whatever they are jumping in. D&A Software has no plans
> whatsoever to exit the software market for the 200LX
> machines. We think this market will last quite strongly for
> several years, if not more.
>
> Avi Meshar
> D&A Software
> http://www.dasoft.com
>

Just out of curiosity how many licence of the www/lx package have you
sold over the years..I am not interested in "wow you have made a lot of
money on this..", but just want to know approx how many we are that use =
the
www/lx package..I have no idea how you can answer this and I understand
if you do not want to answer..

In my little town (20.000) I think that I am the only one using a
Hp200/700lx. So I am sorry to say that there are no potential to sell
anymore licences here in Narvik..(I have a licence already)..

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
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On 4 Jul 1999 23:11:05 -0700, garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH (Andreas Garzotto) =
wrote:

-------snipped some--------
> > 2.  What is battery life like when driving the
> > IR port for communications (is it better
> > than a PCMIA modem).
>
> It certainly takes less power than a PCMCIA modem. I have no numbers
> available though.
>

How is the drain on the 8810? The battery on the 8810 is not that good
(much better if you turn of EFR when making voicecalls don't know if
this has any effect when doing datacalls?)

> > 3. Will the Nokia 8810 be capable of higher
> > comm rates than 9600 when the new
> > digital networks arrive.
>
> The 8810 could do up to 38400 PROVIDED the network is able to support
> that.

This suprises me..the new 7110 is supposed to be able of 14400 if the
network supports it. In the 8810 datasheets that I have seen they talk
about max 9600 bps which is the gsm standard.

If more timeslots are "given" we could go higher..is this the way they
(gsmproviders) are going..giving us more timeslots? What could the
7110 support if the 8810 supports as much as 38400. I have never read
anything on this before..

A single speed Hp can do 19200 and a ds can do approx 30 how can we take
advantage of this speed if the hp can not handle the speed? Is it the
processor or the irport the limiter?

>
> > 4. Is is robust?
>
> I am not sure I understand what your question relates to. The IR
> connection? It is almost as robust as a cable if the GSM signal is
> good. If the signal is bad, the IR connection gets lost easily.

I guess I want to know if the irlink between the hp & the 8810 is
robust? I have tested it a little and found out that I could
communicate between them up to a half a meter. But I have not tried
this out in the real world for example on a bus or something..

>
> > 5. Who would like to swap a Nokia 8810
> > for a 33.3 Motorola PCMIA modem <grin>.
>
> Not me. <G>
>
> Andreas
>

Can you do a "one hand 8810/hp200" session. I guess I want to know If
you can hold the hp with your right hand and also the 8810 to send sms
with the Robot?

Alot of questions..and more to come I am afraid. Do you know anything
of the new wap standard 1.1. I do not know that much of the services
that will be availible for wap. But could this be a add in for Hv..I do
not know if this is possible or even wanted..it just struck me that wap
will be used to "surf" the web on a small screen from special wml
servers. And it should be possible for Hv to surf the wml servers too
which will be more or less textbased..

I do not know what I am talking about in this last segment..I am just
thinking loud..hope that their are somebody that know more than
me(almost nothing) of the new wapstandard..

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

>> Who knows... If Java's acceptance grows, maybe the author of CE XT
>> would become interested in writing a similar emulator in Java? :-)
>> Just think of the possibilities!

><g> Now, for my point. The current implementation of XT-CE (written in C)
>runs DOS slower than the double-speed 200LX, even on a 133MHz Jornada 680.
>(Does the bigger 800 series Jornada run faster than the 680? I don't
>think so, but I'm not sure.) According to benchmarks, the J680 runs XT-CE
>at about 70% of the speed of a doubled 200LX, and the screen refresh rates
>are reportedly much slower.

The current implementation of XTCE is written in C++. Before anybody
starts a discussion as to whether C++ code is slower than C code, I'll
qualify that a bit: The classes used for hardware emulation (including
the CPU emulation) are completely static. I've tested this against a
pure C implementation of the CPU emulation and there is no speed
difference. The plus side is that C++ code is a lot neater. Where it
could be sped up is by implementing the CPU emulation in assembler. This
is a mammoth task which I've completed about 75% of (of the typing at
least) for the Hitachi SH3 CPU (currently about 7000 lines of RISC
assembler). The revenue I receive from XTCE at the moment does not
justify completing this.

There is only one benchmark that you can use to measure the speed of an
emulator, and that is to time an real-world operation with a stopwatch.
The emulated hardware timers (used by a benchmark program to time it's
tests), are simply nowhere near accurate enough to give meaningful
results in benchmarks. Currently they err on the side of caution, in
that most benchmarks give lower results than those measured by
real-world performance. It's fairly trivial for me (or any other
emulator writer) to tweak the emulator in such a way so that it produces
much higher benchmark results. I chose not to. However, the users that
have replaced their HP200LX's with HP680LX's that I've communicated
with, have been of the impression that XTCE matches or exceeds the speed
of their HP200LX's in real world tests.

>It leads me to suspect that if a
>well-optimized C-compiled version of XT-CE is that slow, an interpreted
>Java version of XT-CE would be far too slow to be usable in any way, even
>with a fast CPU. I'd be very pleased if I was wrong, though. Anybody got
>any additional info?

I think you'd need a stupendously fast machine to run an emulation at
any kind of usable speed using a Java interpreter. Certainly not any
form of palmtop this side of Science Fiction. 80-90% of XTCE is written
in pure C++, with no dependency on Windows CE. It's quite possible to
port it to another platform should the need arise. I think that there
are more platforms with good C++ compilers available than there are
platforms with good Java interpreters. I was going to port it to the
Psion 5 now that they've made the SDK freely available, but once again,
the rewards are too small and the work is too big.

BTW. I'm currently working on getting the CPACK (HP Connectivity Pack)
to work properly under XTCE. As far as I see it, XTCE with CPACK is
pretty close to a HP200LX (minus Lotus 1-2-3 and Quicken). Is this
correct?

Ian Dean (author of XTCE)
http://www.xt-ce.com

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:05:58 +0200
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>money on this..", but just want to know approx how many we are that use the
>www/lx package..I have no idea how you can answer this and I understand
>if you do not want to answer..

More interesting is how many on the list... I think Al has mentioned 945
people on the mailing list in a post. So everybody has two each :-) just in
case which means 2000 palmtops. Where are the rest of the couple of hundred
thousand sold?

br

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:14:05 +0100
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Ahhh, so what kind of reward might make you complete the work to do the assembler for the SH3 ?   If you could demonstrate that it did then clip along, you might find people on this list prepared to contribute.   You might not, but they did put up a very modest reward for a tool to synchronise to Outlook if I recall.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:20:03 -0700
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              John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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From:         John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wireless internet for 200
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Tony,
look at the Uniden Data 2000 CDPD WIRELESS MODEM portable wireless Cellular
Digital Packet Data(CDPD) PC Card...basically it's a pcmcia card with a
cellular/digital phoneblock attached..I have not purchased it yet for my
100lx but it has a unlimited air time package thru GoAmerica..which is also
offering a $150 rebate on a $399.95 list price....my company is testing a
prototype of this on our salesmen's notebook....a bit slow and "sloppy" in
response in D.C. AND Baltimore but definitely nice to be unplugged...

JohnCarlo
At 10:49 PM 7/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Are there any cellular companies in NYC that use the Nokia 8810?
>And would "internet use count against my "talk time", or could i
>use it for an unlimited internet access?
>
>thanks for taking the time
>T
>
>
>
>
>On 5 Jul 99, at 8:12, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>
>> danaan@IINET.NET.AU Liam M. Early wrote:
>> > I am about to upgrade my digital mobile phone
>> > and note  some "rumour" about the Nokia
>> > 8810 working directly via IR with the HP200 and
>> > WWW/LX.
>> ...
>> > 1.  Is it that simple?
>>
>> In WWW/LX just set the port to -1 instead of 1 for the external and 2
>> for the PCMCIA port. That's all it takes to make the 8810 work with
>> WWW/LX (apart from turning on IR on the phone).
>>
>> > 2.  What is battery life like when driving the
>> > IR port for communications (is it better
>> > than a PCMIA modem).
>>
>> It certainly takes less power than a PCMCIA modem. I have no numbers
>> available though.
>>
>> > 3. Will the Nokia 8810 be capable of higher
>> > comm rates than 9600 when the new
>> > digital networks arrive.
>>
>> The 8810 could do up to 38400 PROVIDED the network is able to support
>> that.
>>
>> > 4. Is is robust?
>>
>> I am not sure I understand what your question relates to. The IR
>> connection? It is almost as robust as a cable if the GSM signal is
>> good. If the signal is bad, the IR connection gets lost easily.
>>
>> > 5. Who would like to swap a Nokia 8810
>> > for a 33.3 Motorola PCMIA modem <grin>.
>>
>> Not me. <G>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:22:41 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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If it happens, that my 200LX should die,
this is my successor:

http://www.calcaria.net/

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:32:45 -0700
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              John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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From:         John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: initialization string help
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Staber,
if I type this string at the DOS prompt I get 'bad command or file
name'...where is this string useful?

JohnCarlo

At 11:36 AM 7/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>John,
>
>AT&F&Cl&D2 should be fine except that "Cl" should read "C1"
>
>
>HP Staber/Salzburg
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:41:20 -0400
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              mcallasterd@LEE.ARMY.MIL
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From:         Doug McAllaster <mcallasterd@LEE.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      On-Time

I am interested in this product.
I'm told it exports schedules to hplx100/200 format.
I don't know who makes it.

LTC Doug McAllaster
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 06:58:59 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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With the recent discussion about the demise of HP's manufacturing of our
200LX's, I wondered about this...  I presume that the HPLX mailing list
plans to continue operations past November?  As long as there is
significant user interest (however one wants to define "significant")?
Perhaps one of the list administrators can comment...

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:12:43 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:45:33 -0700, bob <bobv@SOS.NET> wrote:

> Below is an e-mail describing encrypted e-mail. Something we all should
> consider using.

Why not just use PGP?

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQCVAwUBN4NCK4JNDMXdtrgZAQE38gQAj0zARaJqOgC6DTk5kXCIO5aWATRCY4W6
eG/u4GZqku/LI7SdBPbhHqXGGekqG8A39gAYql6vmkfqv+6J0ikg2tpzgxBIYwDr
MEzG075OLYbHoZfw0OmNG+3SSbyvdTGjZbP48cd+9473gNfuUjWDZNGbo0GkhsP/
WsZGXbUuPmA=3D
=3D808R
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:21:44 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Robert Hocking wrote:
> İISP_PPP1¨
> Port=2
...
> FIFO=1
...
> Did I put this in the correct spot in the correct file?

In case you use ISP_PPP1 as your setup: yes.

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:21:46 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Rod Whitby wrote:
> That's the trouble with not releasing source along with executables -
> he's now not answering email, and no-one knows where he is, and his
> freeware program (for which he always intended to release the source)
> is left to bit-rot as the Internet moves on without it

Did you ever consider that YOU might have contributed for this to happen?

A few weeks ago, I was close to abandon all my freeware stuff
altogether. I really appreciate open source. I think it is a great
thing and I have contributed a few pieces myself. However, I contribute
when *I* want to contribute, and not when other people are harassing
me, trying to squeeze the source code out of me. Asking me is fine - I
then can decide myself if I want or not, but pushing again and again
and again and again makes sure that I never ever will release the
source code. ;-)

So it *might* be that your efforts actually have the effect contrary to
your intentions, which I would consider sad! There should be more open
source software.

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:21:51 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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DIGEST Tony Corso wrote:
> Are there any cellular companies in NYC that use the Nokia 8810?

I am not sure, but I don't think there is any 8810 model that works
with 1900 MHz, which is used in the US GSM networks.

> And would "internet use count against my "talk time", or could i
> use it for an unlimited internet access?

I guess this depends on the network provider.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:21:55 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> How is the drain on the 8810?

It seems to need much more power when IR is active. Since there is a
bug in the phone software that does not always turn off IR, I usually
turn off the phone after an online session and then turn it on again.

> (much better if you turn of EFR when making voicecalls

How do you turn that off? Did not find it anywhere in the menues.

> don't know if
> this has any effect when doing datacalls?)

I don't think it would because it determines how voice is encoded
(compressed), and data is not compressed that way.

> This suprises me..the new 7110 is supposed to be able of 14400 if the
> network supports it. In the 8810 datasheets that I have seen they talk
> about max 9600 bps which is the gsm standard.

I suspect a bit that the 7110 is an "upgrade" of the modern kind: more
colors, less functionality.

> A single speed Hp can do 19200 and a ds can do approx 30 how can we take
> advantage of this speed if the hp can not handle the speed?

Even if only 19200 baud could be used, that would still be twice as
fast as now.

> robust? I have tested it a little and found out that I could
> communicate between them up to a half a meter.

More than half a meter will not work because the signal of the palmtop
is too weak. I found that around 5-10cm works most reliable.

> But I have not tried
> this out in the real world for example on a bus or something..

I did lots of online runs in buses, cars, trains etc. The problem never
was the IR connection (you can put your hand in between for a few
seconds and it will just continue when you remove it again), but
tunnels and other reasons for a weak GSM signal.

> Can you do a "one hand 8810/hp200" session.

You can do that. Two handed is much more comfortable though.

> Alot of questions..and more to come I am afraid. Do you know anything
> of the new wap standard 1.1.

Frankly, I am very little interested in that. I believe it will be a
big flop. WAP is basically a HTML subset, so existing browsers
automatically support that document format (unless there are also
*additions* that I am not aware of). You can design clean and lean
HTML pages today, so WAP seems to be mostly marketing hype.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:26:02 -0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Re: Letter campaign to HP

We could get subscribes with name, country and send only one letter !

 /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
(=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
 '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Meyer İSMTP:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:15 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Letter campaign to HP
>
> Before we all start shooting with our scatterguns, let's figure out an
> idea
> for an effective appeal to HP -- somewhat of a planned effort.
>
> My thinking is usually slow, so I'm going to think about what to write HP
> as
> an appleal to their decision and then write it. My appeal is not going to
> include threats of boycott, slander, bad language and other garbage that
> would
> hinder an appeal. There are enough folks on this list that we can at least
> hope good appeals would make a difference. One letter on this list
> particularly stood out that should be sent to HP. Don't remember who wrote
> it.
>
> An address that I have for corporate HQ is
>
>   HP Corporate Office
>   3K Hanover St 20BX
>   Palo Alto, CA 94304
>
> Before we start writing letters, it would be most effective if we could
> agree
> to a few rules, like to those above and -- all sent to the same address --
> not
> necessarily the one above. Any suggestions?
>
> I think when we're really squeezed, given the choice of a 500 MHz 680LX
> w/20
> hours battery life -- or the 200LX, we'll take the 200LX. The 200LX is
> probably as close to ideal as we're going to get, especially w/3rd party
> upgrades.
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
>
> "Erling, Marshall N" wrote:
>
> > I was delighted to read the many clever comments people including myself
> have left HP regarding the 200LX.
> > Does anyone believe that a carefully planned letter campaign could
> change HP's direction in terms of engineering a real 200LX successor?
> >
> > Is CE really the unavoidable future of all HP palmtops?
> >
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:21:46 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> Did you ever consider that YOU might have contributed for this to =
happen?

Rod, welcome to the evil twit club <g>.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:47:23 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, dcollins@TRENDX.COM
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.
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I revert to my previous statement.  They have much to improve but they will
evolve.  HP is not going to loose money on this platform.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
Which would you rather have, a real computer or a vague reminder of the
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:40:52 -0400
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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From:         Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Thanks to the people who have given their advice on how to track down problems
with syncing up to ISP's with the EPPPD driver in order to use ccLXPOP. I also
would like to point out that version 1.05 (I told the wrong version number to
Mitch, so it says 1.06 on SUPER) is available. This corrects problems with the
address book and also corrects some problems that could occur with signature
files.

Thanks to Rod Whitby for his efforts to keep the DOS Packet driver viable - He
really is doing a fantastic job with that. It would be unfair to say that he is
doing it for free, as it is clear he continues to put many hours of his time
into the refinement and development of this driver.

Good luck getting the source for 0.6, Rod, and thanks for making ccLXPOP
possible!
Brian


ccLXPOP - a ccMail conversion tool version 1.06
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:35:12 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Upgrade
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Wed,  7 Jul 1999 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT)

15h35m43s ago ...
> > Q:  Why is Hewlett-Packard discontinuing DOS-based Palmtops?
> >
> > A:  HP is upgrading customers in this form factor to the HP Jornada
> > family of Handheld PCs, which use Windows CE.
> >
> It is very weirdly worded to say the least.

Indeed!  "YOU WILL BE UPGRADED" sounds an awful lot like "You will be
assimilated"

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:35:16 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed,  7 Jul 1999 09:21:56 -0400 (EDT)

10h54m03s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Jul 1999, Roger Feinman wrote:

> The only path for the Jornada
> line is to become true sub-notebooks themselves, thus kiliing the =
handheld
> *computer* genre.

Very true.  Wince devices started out larger than the 200LX, and have
continued to get bigger.  Even if wince eventually develops into a
system as functional as the 200 (when pigs fly!), the machines won't be
palmtops.

-PR
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:32:04 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> thing and I have contributed a few pieces myself. However, I contribute
> when *I* want to contribute, and not when other people are harassing
> me, trying to squeeze the source code out of me. Asking me is fine - I
> then can decide myself if I want or not, but pushing again and again
> and again and again makes sure that I never ever will release the
> source code. ;-)


Huh?  I must have missed some of these multitudinous pushes.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:06:23 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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To the HP Palmtop mailing list:

Bruce Headlam of the NY Times called me for an interview about the
discontinuation of the 200LX. He wanted another person besides me to ask
questions to.

I hope he won't mind, but I decided to email this mailing list copying Bruce
at headlam@nytimes.com.  If you have comments or could be interviewed in the
next few minutes, drop Bruce email with your phone number.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:30:11 -0400
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: (forw) Topocom....un HP200LX GEOMETRE!
In-Reply-To:  <199907061356.IAA13747x@scott.net>; from Jeff Johns (W4JEF) on
              Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:56:21AM -0500
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> > Maybe of interest to some???
>
> Uh... possibly if I could read it <g>!

OK, maybe of some interest to our French speaking palmtoppers. :)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:46:59 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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I'm experimenting with an alternative set of tools, that's looking distinctly
possible so far, might work for me at least.

The real key that makes this approach possible for me is my Sony Vaio 505TX;
it's my desktop workstation, and it weighs in at 2.7lbs and slips into even a
light, slim briefcase with no fuss. So I take it with me between work and
home, travelling, whenever I visit a customer site, etc. Of course, I only run
Linux on the Vaio.

I don't have it on my person every instant, though. And it's not particularly
practical to use while standing up, walking around, riding on a subway,
shopping, etc. And it doesn't run for weeks or months on a set of batteries.

So the roving companion I'm experimenting with is a Palm III. So far so good;
it's happily taken over for etext reading, with some improvement over VR on
the LX --- that backlight really is nice sometimes. If I can only figure out
how to reliably import/export phonebook databases I think I'll be nearly
perfectly happy --- and if I can get IrDA synch working between the Palm and
the Vaio (to lose the cable and port replicator while travelling) --- then
I'll be cookin' with gas. I still can't graffiti as fast as I could type on
the LX, but I'm still getting faster, so I've not given up yet.

-Bennett

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:37:25 -0400
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA card reader for Linux
Comments: To: Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <19990706202723.A14153@hisword.net>; from Tom Hoover on Tue,
              Jul 06, 1999 at 08:27:24PM -0500
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> Does anyone have a Linux-compatible PC card reader for sale?  Or,
> a pointer to one?  Thanks!

Tom,

Any of the SCM Swapboxes will work just fine in a Linux machine. They have the
popular Vadem chipset. Getting PCMCIA running in a distribution like Red Hat is
a simple matter of editing a couple of configuration files and starting the
service. The slots also work great with the automounter.

FWIW, the cheapo NECX slots that sold for $10 last year will work if you can
find someone with an extra. (They are some kind of OEM version of the dual slot
SCM).
--
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:54:56 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      The growing acceptance of UNIX as next generation OS

Hi All,

I just got a news wire hot off the presses this morning that again
indicates the growing acceptance of UNIX. MINIX or a similar version of
UNIX may actually turn out to be the next OS of choice for full featured
Palmtops.

Does anyone know how the MINIX project is coming along? Does it or is it
likely to offer a DOS emulator? The MINIX project may have a larger
impact on the next generation LX than we have anticipated.

IMHO, OnChannel sounds like an interesting speculative investment
opportunity right now. Hmm... wonder if their stock is publicly traded
yet...

Anyway, please check out the enclosed news wire. I'm looking forward to
other comments you all may have on this persistent trend.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan
23MB Dbl Speed HP200LX

---

Sub-$199 PCs Coming: OnChannel Announces OS 2000 for Powerful Set-Top
Devices

DAVIS, Calif., July 7 /PRNewswire/ --  OnChannel, Inc. (
http://www.onchannel.com ) , the leading developer of operating system
software for sub-$199 set-top PCs, today announced the introduction of
the OS 2000 Beta Test Program for PC manufacturers.

Scheduled to begin July 31, OnChannel will be shipping specifications and
media based on their OS 2000 hardware reference platform to select
registered manufacturers nationwide.  OnChannel has been testing a
prototype based on the reference platform for the last six months.

"With the recent introduction of the $199 PC, it was obvious that
traditional PC manufacturers wanted to get a foot into the low-end
Internet appliances market," stated Eric Powers, Vice President of
Production. "OnChannel is providing that opportunity to manufacturers
everywhere."

"If you're a PC manufacturer, and you see a potential fifty-five million
unit appliances market emerging over the next few years, and you have an
opportunity to tap that market now without changing your manufacturing
operations -- you do it!" remarked Daniel Nilsson, President of
OnChannel.

OnChannel OS 2000 is derived from the popular Linux operating system, the
fastest growing OS worldwide.  When set-top PC's with OS 2000 reach
consumers later this year, every popular application announced for Linux
will be available to OnChannel customers.  In addition, OnChannel is
planning on supporting voice-over-IP Internet phone calls using industry
standard technology, and a wide variety of computer peripherals and
add-ons.

"These set-top boxes that you see announced on a daily basis ... they
can't compete with existing and future PC technology that OnChannel has
conveniently packaged into a set-top box ... consumers will reject them
when they see the flexibility and performance that only these set-top PCs
can provide," concluded Mr. Nilsson.

About OnChannel

OnChannel, Inc., is a privately held California corporation established
in 1999 to develop the next generation consumer-friendly operating system
and supporting technologies for low-end computers.  Beta program
registration or general information about OnChannel products and services
is available worldwide through the OnChannel web site,
http://www.onchannel.com, or by calling 530-297-7200.

---

___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:17:57 -0400
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              hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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Ultima, Bards tale, Minifax,  Keen 6 CGA, and over fifty new games on a
games page and a few new utilities for the LX.  All stuff you probably
won't find at palmtop.net.

(New ebooks coming later)

http://comports.com/hplx

or
----
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:25:41 -0400
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:16:25 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:

>I've got a problem with Exkey.  The reason I load it at all is because I
>need some of the macro functionality it provides for use in SMMX--
>specifically the larger-than-normal keystroke buffer and the {Wait}
>command.  (Both are required to get Lotus 1-2-3 to open a file when you
>select it in SMMX.)  However, Exkey seems to disable the Ctrl-Arrow and
>Shfit-Arrow key combinations, which I find extremely annoying.  Does
>anybody know a way around this?

Doesn't help in this situation, but these very reasons are those that
forced me from ExKey (had a moderately elaborate setup) over to
Key200.  After a few false starts, I got everything moved over to Key200
and even made a few enhancements.

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Wed,  7 Jul 1999 11:27:54 -0500 (EST)

04h28m55s ago ...
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> With the recent discussion about the demise of HP's manufacturing of =
our
> 200LX's, I wondered about this...  I presume that the HPLX mailing list
> plans to continue operations past November?  As long as there is
> significant user interest (however one wants to define "significant")?
> Perhaps one of the list administrators can comment...
>
> -Chris

        After November, the LIST name will change to HPWINCE-L and all
        comments regarding "old technology" DOS machines will be
        required to be prefixed w/ "FLUFF".<VBG>

        Seriously: I expect the HPLX-L will be as active as ever well
        into the next millinium!





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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:42:24 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: HV - once again...
Comments: To: Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Some of those units may not be in use, for whatever reason. I hope they all
find their way to Thaddeus so that we can be assured of parts for a long
time :)

On the other hand, it is obvious that several users do not know of this
list yet. There could be several HP staffers, for instance, who could still
be using these units. Maybe we should expand the reach of this list,
provided we do not upset those who are already hassled by the number of
messages coming through each day.

At 06:05 PM 07-07-99 Wednesday , Franklin wrote:

>More interesting is how many on the list... I think Al has mentioned 945
>people on the mailing list in a post. So everybody has two each :-) just in
>case which means 2000 palmtops. Where are the rest of the couple of hundred
>thousand sold?
>
>Franklin

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:03:09 -0400
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> I just got a news wire hot off the presses this morning that again
> indicates the growing acceptance of UNIX. MINIX or a similar version of
> UNIX may actually turn out to be the next OS of choice for full featured
> Palmtops.

It's somewhat odd to call UNIX the 'next big thing' as of course, it's already
been there and done that.  In the history of things, DOS and Windows really
have been short-lived interlopers so far, especially on the server market.

Already the Linux kernel has been proted to various different architectures,
including very recently a piece of hardware that is about the size of a memory
simm that strikes me as well-suited to palmtops (it even uses the dragonball
processor, the same thing in the pilot) and has on board ethernet.

> Does anyone know how the MINIX project is coming along? Does it or is it
> likely to offer a DOS emulator? The MINIX project may have a larger
> impact on the next generation LX than we have anticipated.

As far as i know, Minix is no longer under development, and this has been the
case for years.  Linux has supplanted it as the dominant unix-flavor on the PC
compatible.  Under Linux there are many options for running DOS applications,
and even some win32 applications can be run with the WINE package.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:36:30 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed,  7 Jul 1999 12:29:00 -0400 (EDT)

54m37s ago ...
On Wed,  7 Jul 1999, Al Kind wrote:

>         Seriously: I expect the HPLX-L will be as active as ever well
>         into the next millinium!

Excellent.  As long as WE don't give in to the Dark Side, we can have
our favorite platform supported by fellow enthusiasts.

-Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:31:37 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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From:         Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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>> The only path for the Jornada line is to become true sub-notebooks
>> themselves, thus kiliing the handheld *computer* genre.
>
>Very true.  Wince devices started out larger than the 200LX, and have
>continued to get bigger.  Even if wince eventually develops into a
>system as functional as the 200 (when pigs fly!), the machines won't be
>palmtops.

My guess is that after a while, with "small" and "convenient" packages
steadily growing larger and less convenient, someone will once again
recognize a market for a pocket form-factor keyboard computer (i.e., like
the 200LX) and bring out a new machine.

And if it is good enough, the CE-class of "devices" will soon after vanish
in favor of either bigger and more capable or smaller and more convenient
machines.


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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:09:08 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

what are the disadvantages of XT-CE (except speed, of course)?
What emulations are missing there?
Does it emulate all hardware that we have in our 200LX (COM-Port,
IR-Port, graphics, speaker, PCMCIA slot etc.?

Is it like having a 1000CX?

(I ask only for the case I have to switch sometimes.... ;-) )

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:21:41 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Bruce Francis wrote:

> Doesn't help in this situation, but these very reasons are those that
> forced me from ExKey (had a moderately elaborate setup) over to
> Key200.  After a few false starts, I got everything moved over to
> Key200 and even made a few enhancements.

I have also almost switched to key200; I do all of the actual key
remapping with it.  But for the expanded macro buffer and the {Wait}
command, I still have to use EXKey.

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: (forw) Topocom....un HP200LX GEOMETRE!
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> > > Maybe of interest to some???
> >
> > Uh... possibly if I could read it <g>!
>
> OK, maybe of some interest to our French speaking palmtoppers. :)


I have to presume there was a palmtop connection at the site but I found
something about testing/examining pipes?  (G)  Can their equipment find
hinge cracks? (G)

Do they use the palmtop in their survey work?  Or was the link/url
wrong?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:58:07 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed,  7 Jul 1999 13:46:45 -0400 (EDT)

48m55s ago ...
On Wed,  7 Jul 1999, Jim Saklad wrote:

> My guess is that after a while, with "small" and "convenient" packages
> steadily growing larger and less convenient, someone will once again
> recognize a market for a pocket form-factor keyboard computer (i.e., =
like
> the 200LX) and bring out a new machine.

Hope you're right.  The building blocks of a future non-borg controlled
palmtop computer are out there.  Maybe it'll be a Linux based system.
We can still have a palmtop computing future to look forward to
(without being "assimilated" or "upgraded").

> And if it is good enough, the CE-class of "devices" will soon after =
vanish
> in favor of either bigger and more capable or smaller and more convenien=
t
> machines.

Ah yes - and wouldn't THAT be sweet revenge   8->

Later


-Peniel
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon


Wed,  7 Jul 1999 13:46:45 -0400 (EDT)

48m55s ago ...
On Wed,  7 Jul 1999, Jim Saklad wrote:

> And if it is good enough, the CE-class of "devices" will soon after vanish
> in favor of either bigger and more capable or smaller and more convenient
> machines.

This is already happening in a small way.  Windows CE 'Pro' units the size
of
subnotebooks but with 'slightly' longer battery life, and solid state
storage systems,
and Palm Sized PC's the size of bloated palm pilots both have a higher sale
rate than the 'clamshell' designed HPC's.  Many companies have abandoned the
HPC form factor all together in favor of going bigger or smaller.  NEC and
Casio
no longer have HPC's and Sharp seems to be putting their future into the
Professional models instead of upgrading their 4x00 series further.

Just a thought.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com



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> Hi friends,
>
> what are the disadvantages of XT-CE (except speed, of course)?
> What emulations are missing there?

I understand there may be some comport issues - I hear that accis does
not run properly - there may be two interactions - file dates (for some
reason) and possibly modem support.

Maybe others with more info will chime in.

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Subject:      Re: The growing acceptance of UNIX as next generation OS

Well, Minix is running now on HP200LX.
See it at http://minix.hplx.net/minix.zip


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> From: Hero of the Man-Kzin Wars İSMTP:srakkt@TIAC.NET¨
>
> > Does anyone know how the MINIX project is coming along? Does it or is it
> > likely to offer a DOS emulator? The MINIX project may have a larger
> > impact on the next generation LX than we have anticipated.
>
> As far as i know, Minix is no longer under development, and this has been
> the
> case for years.  Linux has supplanted it as the dominant unix-flavor on
> the PC
> compatible.  Under Linux there are many options for running DOS
> applications,
> and even some win32 applications can be run with the WINE package.
>

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It appears that Toshiba will be shutting down the Libretto line in August,
according to
http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/

Though I expect to get a few more years out of my 200LX (and my back-up 100LX),
I will be keeping an eye on Psion and XTM for a possible future replacement.

Bruce in Toronto

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> But a 486DX/25 would be nicer!

And probably cheaper. It is hard to find small 386s...

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> We were just sent a press release about the HP 200LX.  It looks like the HP

Boohoo :-( ...

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Longden,

> A sad day.

Indeed.

> If HP headquarters were nearby, I'd protest by melting down a Jornada on their
> steps and recasting it as a fishing weight (on the 2nd thought maybe the

How insulting to fishes all over the world! :) ...

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Laust,

> Mentioning which person you are quoting helps too... ;-)

Not important at all. What's important is to appeal to peole
to remove excessive and unneeded quotes. I agreed with that
message. I do not even recall who posted it.

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Hans Peter:

> I have it in the first section of WWW.CFG - not in the scripts.

FIFO=1 is related to a specific connection, i.e. an ISP
description. It should be in the SETUP for that ISP. E.g. CIS
connection would start as follows:

İCIS¨
Port= ...

Robert had it in the right place. You went too fast, it was
not in the script section...

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Robert,

> İISP_PPP1¨

   İ...¨

> FIFO=1

> Did I put this in the correct spot in the correct file?  I don't seem
> to notice any difference, but I did not perform any download test
> before & after adding the line to my cfg file.

You may not necessarily and automatically notice the
difference. It helps in some cases, but not all. It seems to
not hurt when present.

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Martin,

> Just out of curiosity how many licence of the www/lx package
> have you sold over the years..I am not interested in "wow you

Sorry.

> In my little town (20.000) I think that I am the only one
> using a Hp200/700lx. So I am sorry to say that there are no
> potential to sell anymore licences here in Narvik..(I have a
> licence already)..

If you can organize and mibilize your town to buy say
5000-10000 200LX/700LX I will make the price to the town so
low it will make them laugh! :->

Any large group - please talk to me! (You decide if you are
a "large group".

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Paco,

> I was a happy spanish user of WWW/LX but from Dec-98 till now, I have been
> unable to connect again. I think it is due to the new Internet phone acces
> system stablished in Spain called Infovia Plus. The technical Dasoft
> support could not help me.

Correct. Infovia we found out was incomplete in its own
implementation and was simply not usable. I suggest to not use
that system until they get their heads together and fix it.

One of the customers who helped figure this out is also on the
list here. I wish we could help. As it stands, they are no
implementing proper internet protocols, i.e. nothing we can do
about it.

> Is any spanish user using WWW/LX successfully?. If so, please HELP!

At least three I can think of right away, but none uses
Infovia. I believe two of them post here occasionally.

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Ryan,

> I guess the I just lost sight of the fact that you were
> looking at the project as a business case, and I was looking
> at it as an interesting technical challenge.

As well as a technical project.

> I for one worldn't touch the project with a 10 foot pole, business
> wise.

Correct. But I would do the project because it has technical
merit far beyond the business side of it. (I am not trying to
imply that D&A will take it on, but only that it is worthwhile
beyond the business side.)

> The support issues _are_ a nightmare, and it would almost certainly end
> up losing money.

Right, that is my estimate too.

> However, there are a number of talented programmers out
> there, with expertise in the various required areas, and it
> is possible that with some of co-ordination, we could get a
> new HP palmtop browser. Still completely pleasing no-one with
> the results, of course :-)

I agree. So far there was one post from Rod and this post
from you. No one else, unless I missed someone?  What I
think I would want most to proceed is a rational outline of
what the borwser should do - pardon me a thousand time :-) -
a design. One was implied/promised, but not coming forth.
Ian, did you fall asleep on this boring project? :) ...

It seems to me with this as a guide, the other pieces can
begin to fall together in discussions among the prospective
programmers. When I outlined the project, I commented that
without a very strong committment and interst level, this
effort is doomed from the start.

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> I wonder if HP would be willing to sell the manufacturing rights to the
> 200LX. It might be possible for someone to continue making them if they can
> make a profit. I don't where that economy of scale achieves a balance.

This was asked several months ago (well before the
announcement to discontinue) at high levels in Singapore and
corporate. Answer was "No!". They have big problems with the
logo etc. Even on the assumption of removal of all traces of
their name and identity they refused. They usually do not do
this... Some issues at corporate levels with name, logo and
so on. I can understand why they are super protective of all
this.

Another issue is that in about 2 years they predict they won't
be able to get the CGA screens at the quantities they like to
order. Other parts are also an issue (IR, some parts of kbd)
because of the dimishing sources. Tooling to make these is
extraordinarily expensive. So you'd want to look for other
sources with similar parts...

Updating the machine to use the more currently available parts
is a large task in redesign, retooling and changing the
manufacturing process with all the problems of quality etc.
etc. And it is hard to determine how many machines you'll be
able to sell at the end of the day. So pricing becomes tricky,
affecting financing of such an enterprise.

Believe me, I worked on a project like this for months, it
isn't easy. If Hal can lift it, he will become my hero -
instantly! :)

Maybe it will take more than just one enterprise to make a go
of it.

> Making the unit should be no big deal as the manufacturing process is
> already in place. It's a matter of getting HP to sell the process (people,
> machinery, copyrights, etc.).

They have close to nothing in this type of assets. It is all
farmed out. They just own the rights.

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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> > Mentioning which person you are quoting helps too... ;-)
>
> Not important at all. What's important is to appeal to peole to remove
> excessive and unneeded quotes. I agreed with that message. I do not
> even recall who posted it.

I defintely agree that long quoted material should be brutally ripped out
of messages going to the list.  Nothing irritates me more than a giant
quoted message-- including the HPLX-L signature several times-- followed
by one line of text.  But I also agree that identifyingthe person you're
quoting (as in the "A Meshar" line above) is very useful, as it lets me
follow a thread backwards if I have skipped reading messages.

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In hindsight, the end of the 200LX was inevitable -- especially when one stops
to consider what HP must have viewed its role to be. (I'm not an HP employee, so
what follows is pure speculation...)

I have always thought that the 95LX was first conceived at HP in a brainstorming
session that went something like this:

Marketing Flack: "Hey! How about making a calculator that runs Lotus
spreadsheets?"
Engineering Grunt: "You mean *real* Lotus spreadsheets?"
Marketing Flack: "Yeah! Wouldn't that be neat!"
Engineering Grunt: "Well... to do that, it would have to run DOS too."
Marketing Flack: "Okay! Whatever!"
Engineering Grunt: "And that means it would have to be IBM PC compatible."
Marketing Flack: "Is that bad?"
Engineering Grunt: "Actually that's very good, because then it could run a whole
bunch of other stuff too..."
Marketing Flack (exiting): "Groovy! You work on the design, and I'll work on the
name ...something like Lotus Expandable, or maybe LX for short..."
Engineering Grunt (thinks to himself): "Jerk! And that's a stupid name, too!
...Cool idea, though..."

And so it came to pass. And all was right in the world. Fast forward to a few
weeks ago...

HP Bigshot: "How come we aren't selling hardly any of these WinCE thingies???"
HP Toady: "Well, Boss, we've sold about 600,000 so far."
HP Bigshot: "That's nothing! Those clowns over at 3Com have sold over 4,000,000
of their whatchamacalits!!!"
HP Toady: "Sir, that's not really the same sort of machine."
HP Bigshot: "I don't care!!! Gates told us that *everybody* would buy *our*
thingies if we put WinCE in them! So what is everybody buying instead???"
HP Toady: "Well, our 200LX is still quite popular."
HP Bigshot: "Huh? 200LX? Does it run WinCE?"
HP Toady: "No, it..."
HP Bigshot: "That's IT!!! Cancel the 200LX and everybody will have to buy our
WinCE thingies!!!"
HP Toady (pocketing his 200LX and backing away slowly): "You're a genius,
Sir..."

Bruce in Toronto
(who feels a bit better now)

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Subject:      Re: Narrowing alternatives for DOS palmtops

> It appears that Toshiba will be shutting down the Libretto line in August,
> according to
> http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/
>
> Though I expect to get a few more years out of my 200LX (and my back-up 100LX),
> I will be keeping an eye on Psion and XTM for a possible future replacement.
>
> Bruce in Toronto

That ones wrong, Toshiba just introduced two new models of the
libretto, the 1050ff and 1100ff, in japan. Pretty interesting machines
still in the same form factor. Now if they would just bring them over
here.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
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Thanks everyone,

Once I got the correct DNS numbers (from my ISP) for my config files
everything worked great.

One gripe I have with cc:Mail though, is when you toggle the zoom from
small to medium font size it doesn't re-format the text to fit the screen.
What a pain. PostLX on the other hand, handles this very well with 4
different fonts.

Thanks again,
Owen

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Wed,  7 Jul 1999 16:27:13 -0500 (EST)

Subject says it all! June Logs are up...let me know if there are any
problems.

Cheers,

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter W. Borders <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Narrowing alternatives for DOS palmtops


>> It appears that Toshiba will be shutting down the Libretto line in
August,
>> according to
>> http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/
>>
>> Though I expect to get a few more years out of my 200LX (and my back-up
100LX),
>> I will be keeping an eye on Psion and XTM for a possible future
replacement.
>>
>> Bruce in Toronto
>
>That ones wrong, Toshiba just introduced two new models of the
>libretto, the 1050ff and 1100ff, in japan. Pretty interesting machines
>still in the same form factor. Now if they would just bring them over
>here.

Actually its correct. Toshiba US has announced they will be shutting down
the Libretto
line in August.  Yes, 2 new models have been released in Japan, but there
will be no more
US models released.    The US and Japanese markets are different, the
ultra-thins have
become more popular in the us as they have fewer compromises (mainly the a
better keyboard)
than the smaller Libretto (and PC110 from IBM which never made it over to
the US officially) so
as a result the Libretto is continuing in Japan where size sells above all
else and the ultra-thins
will be sold in the US where their larger screens and better keyboards are
more popular.

So if you want one of the new libs you will have to order it from Japan, or
one of the companies
like Dynamism which resells the Japanese models in the us, and keep in mind
it will have a Japanese
keyboard, and software installed, etc. which is a bit inconvienent but not a
show stopper.

Dan 'holding on tightly to my 50ct'   (which is an upgrade from a Japanese
IBM PC-110 <g>)
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Pete
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
>tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:08:34 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Has anyone sucessfully managed to register Stereo Shell? I have not been
able to track down the author to register it and the phone numbers =
provided
on the shareware nag screen are not correct for the author.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:36:30 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Narrowing alternatives for DOS palmtops

> > It appears that Toshiba will be shutting down the Libretto line in August,
> > according to
> > http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/
> >
> > Bruce in Toronto
>
> That ones wrong, Toshiba just introduced two new models of the
> libretto, the 1050ff and 1100ff, in japan. Pretty interesting machines
> still in the same form factor. Now if they would just bring them over
> here.
>
> Pete

Ok, here is an addendum to my own note. It looks like that quote was
from Toshiba US, that they US market will no longer get libretto's.
That is a real shame since the two new japanese models would be good
competition to the sony picturebook.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:15:25 -0400
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              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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Just a quick question on MINIX for the hp200lx, I downloaded the minix.zip
file from the URL http://minix.hplx.net which displayed the following
statement:

"Thanks to Mack Baggette of Times2Tech, we now have a functioning version of
Minix on our favorite palmtop PC.
Obtain your very own copy here: (beware, it's 6.25MB zipped, and 40 MB
unzipped)."

No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix package before
from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any difference.  So what
did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far as I can tell (with a quick
glance...) it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088
machines.
I could see thanking Andy Tanenbaum or Kees Bot for their excellent work in
creating and developing MINIX but I don't see anything that's been done by
anyone else to enhance it to run on a palmtop.

The real trick is getting it to boot from a real device as worked on be
Prof. Dubbs who's work can be found here: http://users.erols.com/rld/

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:17:49 GMT
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From:         "Dean L." <deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: XT-CE
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Well,   I went and got a 680 CE.   Can't say I like it or dislike it..
I can't get it to talk to my PC.  The software on disk likes to have it's=
 own
comm port and I am using all of my ports.   Mouse and Modem.
If I try to run the Nice software they supplied it takes over my comm =
port my
modem is on and the only way I can get out of it is to reboot... Not =
good....

I also found out with a call to the HP help line that my Nice New 680 =
will not send a=20
Break to the modem.... With the system I dial into that is the first part=
 of the Login
sequence..   Not Good...

I also found out that the phone directory of the 200  MAY convert over to=
 the 680 buy all
my Notes on the 200 are Toast... must redo all of them... and I live on =
the notes..

With the 200 to add a Note or a new Phone number all I had to do was hit =
=462..
Not so with the 680.   Now I must drag out that little pen and hit the =
little box..
Not Good as you bounce along in your truck or car...

Only good thing I have found sofar is the back light... But wait... I am =
in the Sun and=20
now I can't see a thing... Gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....

Size.... It will not fit into my shirt pocket... had to buy a nice case =
for it ... something more
to leave at the coffee shop...=20

Gee Whiz    now we have progress...

Dean L    W5GXL




On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:09:08 GMT, you wrote:

>Hi friends,
>
>what are the disadvantages of XT-CE (except speed, of course)?
>What emulations are missing there?
>Does it emulate all hardware that we have in our 200LX (COM-Port,
>IR-Port, graphics, speaker, PCMCIA slot etc.?
>
>Is it like having a 1000CX?
>
>(I ask only for the case I have to switch sometimes.... ;-) )
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
> Daniel Hertrich                         Berlin, Germany
>
> email:                                d.hertrich@gmx.de
> homepage:        http://www.user.tu-berlin.de/~dherbgba
> telephone:                         +49 (0)177 795 55 49
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:30:07 +0100
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From:         Mike Little <Mike@AMPERSOFT.CO.UK>
Organization: Ampersoft
Subject:      Re: On-Time
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On 7 Jul 99, at 7:41, Doug McAllaster wrote:

>I am interested in this product.
>I'm told it exports schedules to hplx100/200 format.
>I don't know who makes it.

Try
http://www.workingcommunity.com/ontime2/schedule.html

Unfortunately, most of the links don't work.
The press releases page has nothing newer than July 1996!

Hope this helps,
Mike

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:50:47 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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I have worked with CDPD since it's inception several years ago.  I worked on
a project designing the hardware and software for a wireless (CDPD) credit
card terminal and had quite a bit of exposure to the technology.

I have some advice for anyone considering CDPD.  Make sure you can either
try before you buy, or it comes with an no questions asked return policy for
at least a few days/weeks.  When you have very good coverage, it works fine,
but when you get into weaker signal areas (i.e. where normal mobile phones
still function fine) the performance is less than stellar if it works at
all.  Make sure you test it in all of the places that you want to use
it...not just in the local mobile phone store.  I used high quality
antenna's on the roof to do development because the signal strength was too
low using the built in antenna's even thought the cell site that I was
attached to was less than 1 mile away.

One other thing to remember is that CDPD uses the same infrastructure as
standard cellular phones, so if your cellular phone coverage is bad, CDPD
will be bad as well.

I did try several PCMCIA CDPD modems in my 200LX, with no success.  I did
not have any software at the time that would allow me to do anything other
than talk to the modem via AT commands.  The other problem was that they
drew too much power to be useful.  I had to run them on the AC adapter or it
drained the batteries too fast.  Keep in mind that these things have a .6
Watt radio built into them.  It takes power to run them.

If anyone has any other CDPD questions, I would be glad to try to answer
them if I can.

Sean



-----Original Message-----
From: John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Wireless internet for 200


>Tony,
>look at the Uniden Data 2000 CDPD WIRELESS MODEM portable wireless Cellular
>Digital Packet Data(CDPD) PC Card...basically it's a pcmcia card with a
>cellular/digital phoneblock attached..I have not purchased it yet for my
>100lx but it has a unlimited air time package thru GoAmerica..which is also
>offering a $150 rebate on a $399.95 list price....my company is testing a
>prototype of this on our salesmen's notebook....a bit slow and "sloppy" in
>response in D.C. AND Baltimore but definitely nice to be unplugged...

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:45:24 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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It chokes me somewhat to do this (especially in this, our darkest hour), but a
friend would like to buy a Pilot and solicited my help in picking a model (3,
3x, 5... ??) and a good price.  She's not a big power techie type, so a base
model would probably do, unless there's a major price point difference between
the models (ie, maybe for a little more money, you get a lot more machine?)

Can I get some comparative recommendations (off-list is fine) from those of you
who have done the shopping (c'mon, I know you're out there)?  Any web references
with comparative feature charts of the models would also be helpful.

Thanks.  And I apologize to list-members for the bandwidth.  Just helping out a
friend (that she's cute means absolutely nothing).

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:00:02 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:15:25 -0400, Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET> =
wrote:

> No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix package =
before
> from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any difference.  So =
what
> did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far as I can tell (with a =
quick
> glance...) it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088
> machines.
> I could see thanking Andy Tanenbaum or Kees Bot for their excellent =
work in
> creating and developing MINIX but I don't see anything that's been done =
by
> anyone else to enhance it to run on a palmtop.

Geesh... you may want to take another look!

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:29:59 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix package before
> from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any difference.  So what
> did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far as I can tell (with a
quick
> glance...) it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088
> machines.

All I did was spend several months in an unfamiliar computing environment
learning how to reprogram it to work on the palmtop.  It needed a lot of
changes to make it work in the palmtop environment such as:

    Getting it to stop crashing on the 200LX which made it unusable on the
200LX at first
    Allow it to recognize a 200LX environment
    Support for reading the clock from the 200LX which does not have a CMOS
    Handling interrupt 0A which is a palmtop specific
    Allow use of the ON key to be able to turn the palmtop off and back on
    Created a low power state during idle which didn't exist before
    Sync up the internal clock after turning it back on
    Many other palmtop specific enhancements

Most of the above required hand coded assembler and a little C code.  The
original MINIX was not meant to run on and in fact didn't run on the 200LX.

> I could see thanking Andy Tanenbaum or Kees Bot for their excellent work
in
> creating and developing MINIX but I don't see anything that's been done by
> anyone else to enhance it to run on a palmtop.

I agree wholeheartedly about thanking Andy Tanenbaum and Kees Bot as we
wouldn't have MINIX without them, but not seeing doesn't mean it isn't
there.  Most of the work was under the hood.

> The real trick is getting it to boot from a real device as worked on be
> Prof. Dubbs who's work can be found here: http://users.erols.com/rld/

That is nice, but not a requirement to use it.  At this point I hope my
efforts were even worth it as not many folks seem to be interested unless I
am greatly mistaken.  I was looking at doing some further development in
support of modem and ethernet cards, but I don't know at this point if I
will take the time.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:38:24 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: MINIX on the hp200lx
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Calvin Ledford wrote:

> No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix package
> before from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any
> difference.  So what did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far
> as I can tell (with a quick glance...) it's the very same version of
> MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088 machines.

Oh? Try running an un-modified Minix on the palmtop.  Go ahead, try it.
Don't back up any of your data first.  Then, when your palmtop has been
wiped clean by a series of crashes, try running the modified version,
which actually RUNS on the palmtop.

I understand that you probably didn't know any of what he did to Minix to
get it to actually work, but next time, before you go insulting (yes, I
mean insulting, not just "innocently questioning") something that took
months of work, find out what's going on first.  Like actually RUN the old
Minix on your palmtop and see what happens.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:40:46 -0700
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Subject:      Re: MINIX on the hp200lx
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> That is nice, but not a requirement to use it.  At this point I hope
> my efforts were even worth it as not many folks seem to be interested
> unless I am greatly mistaken.  I was looking at doing some further
> development in support of modem and ethernet cards, but I don't know
> at this point if I will take the time.

I think more people would be interested in using it if it didn't require
so much space (the disk image or whatever it is takes up something like
40MB, doens't it?)  Is it possible to trim it down to something that would
boot up on an 8MB or even 5MB palmtop?  I know several people who have
Windows 3.0 on the palmtop just for the "wow" factor of being able to have
Windows on it.  I bet a smaller Minix would be at least as useful for
"wow" factor... "Look!  Unix on my handheld."  And if it can be made to do
actual work, and multitask and what not, the desirability goes up.  But
the large size is probably holding it back at the moment, IMHO.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:38:48 +0000
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Stereo Shell
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I called and talked to the author (a couple of years ago) and asked him about
registering.  He said not to send payment as he was no longer developing or supporting
it.  He said to enjoy it with his complements.  I don't remember for sure, but I think I
used the number on the nag screen.  If anybody can get in touch with him again it would
be nice to get the registered version without the nag screen.  I don't know why I didn't
think of asking when I was trying to register it.


> Has anyone sucessfully managed to register Stereo Shell? I have not been
> able to track down the author to register it and the phone numbers provided
> on the shareware nag screen are not correct for the author.
>
> Jeff
>
>            ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
>            ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
>            ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
>            --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
>            ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----
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>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:48:24 -0500
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              Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM>
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              SuperHighway
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On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 09:37:25AM -0400, Mitchell Hamm wrote:
> > Does anyone have a Linux-compatible PC card reader for sale?  Or,
> > a pointer to one?  Thanks!
>
> Any of the SCM Swapboxes will work just fine in a Linux machine. They have the
> popular Vadem chipset. Getting PCMCIA running in a distribution like Red Hat is
> a simple matter of editing a couple of configuration files and starting the
> service. The slots also work great with the automounter.
>
> FWIW, the cheapo NECX slots that sold for $10 last year will work if you can
> find someone with an extra. (They are some kind of OEM version of the dual slot
> SCM).

Yeah, that's the one that I was thinking of.  When I attempted to buy one last year, NECX had already sold out.  At the time, I didn't worry about it too much since I was still dual-booting between Win95 and Linux.  Now that I've totally switched, I'd love to find a used one.

HELP...does anyone have an extra for sale for a poor non-M$ user?  :-)

--
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:49:07 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I think more people would be interested in using it if it didn't require
> so much space (the disk image or whatever it is takes up something like
> 40MB, doens't it?)  Is it possible to trim it down to something that would
> boot up on an 8MB or even 5MB palmtop?  I know several people who have

I agree, but haven't looked into this aspect of it.  There are instructions
for doing it as the real MINIX website, and I was hoping someone else would
pick up that task as I was tired of looking at it for quite some time after
the last release.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:56:59 EDT
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In a message dated 7/7/1999 07:31:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mack@TIMES2TECH.COM writes:

>  At this point I hope my efforts were even worth it as not many folks seem
to be interested unless I am greatly mistaken.

Mack,

Its not that I'm not interested. I just don't have a clue.

Once before, in a moment of self-effacing condor,  I ask the list what the
point of minix on the palm top would be and got the answer, "Its just amazing
that it can kinda, sorta, works at all.  Don't expect anything productive."

Double speed, I understand.  32 Megs I understand.  Thank you.  But Minix I
just don't understand.  I'm commuting 3 1/2 hrs a day, and don't have space
in my limited life to learn a toy that won't help me.

Am I missing something?

Clueless in DC,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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> In hindsight, the end of the 200LX was inevitable -- especially when one stops
> to consider what HP must have viewed its role to be. (I'm not an HP employee, so
> what follows is pure speculation...)
>
> I have always thought that the 95LX was first conceived at HP in a brainstorming
> session that went something like this:

Cut to the chase ....

> HP Toady (pocketing his 200LX and backing away slowly): "You're a genius,
> Sir..."
>
> Bruce in Toronto
> (who feels a bit better now)


Thanks, Bruce in Toronto - I feel better, too. (G)

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> Well,   I went and got a 680 CE.   Can't say I like it or dislike it..
> I can't get it to talk to my PC.  The software on disk likes to have it's
>  own comm port


Etc,etc.

Please forward your comment to the HP site where they announce the
discontinuance of the HP200 for this upgrade unit you just purchased.
Ask them to implement the features that will truly make this an UPGRADE.

Wait till you try setting an appointment for a different country or
timezone.  First, you will have to change the local country/zone to
whereever it is the appt will take place (or multiple time changes for
different places), set the appt or appts, then reset the time back to
your real local time/place.

Good luck.

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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> I agree, but haven't looked into this aspect of it.  There are
> instructions for doing it as the real MINIX website, and I was hoping
> someone else would pick up that task as I was tired of looking at it
> for quite some time after the last release.

I think you just like to flaunt your 2048MB palmtop.  <g>

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> Wherever Everett Kaser may be, I send him thanks through cyberspace for the
> technological marvel that he and his team produced at Hewlett-Packard, when

www.kaser.com is where he markets his excellent computer games.

cheers... Russ

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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:38:48 +0000, Mike Melancon <melancon@microgear.net> =
wrote:

> be nice to get the registered version without the nag screen.

Exactly! One of the numbers is an Alabama number that I tried with no =
luck
and the other is a Mississippi number. Maybe if I can track him down, he
will release the code, where it can be modified. It's an extremely useful
piece of software IMO.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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I have following items for sale at prices indicated plus shipping costs.
If interested, please contact me off the list.

- HP1000CX, 1MB RAM, HP F1203A, OS 5 & Laplink Remote in ROM, upgradeable,
originally purchased 5 May 1999, $170.

- 5MB PCMCIA flash card, HP F1012A (Sundisk/Sandisk) #SDP-5, with Stacker
palmtop software, $20  (right now, flash card only available for sale with
palmtop)

- AC/DC adapter, HP F1011A #ABA, input 100-240V 0.3A 50/60 Hz, output 12V
0.75A, two available, $30 each

- Zelco Multilight, clamps (soft foam pad) to HPLX, uses 4 C batteries, $5

- ASF PCL 200 Travel Light, uses 4 AA batteries, $5

- Zelco Itty bitty book light, uses 4 C batteries, $5

- Gateway 2000 Handbook, backlit screen, 80286 equivalent, 40 MB HD, 1.44
MB FDD.  Uses AC, rechargeable batteries (my two are dead, but they are
required for AC operation), or AA battery packs (I have two)(each takes 6
AA batteries).


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How many possible combinations of games are there in Freecell?

Jeff

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My apologies, I downloaded the package and without a detailed look assumed
that
nothing was different.

Sorry.

As to the worth, many people I know are interested, I hope you decide to
stick with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mack Baggette İmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 7:30 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: MINIX on the hp200lx


> No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix package before
> from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any difference.  So what
> did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far as I can tell (with a
quick
> glance...) it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088
> machines.

All I did was spend several months in an unfamiliar computing environment
learning how to reprogram it to work on the palmtop.  It needed a lot of
changes to make it work in the palmtop environment such as:

    Getting it to stop crashing on the 200LX which made it unusable on the
200LX at first
    Allow it to recognize a 200LX environment
    Support for reading the clock from the 200LX which does not have a CMOS
    Handling interrupt 0A which is a palmtop specific
    Allow use of the ON key to be able to turn the palmtop off and back on
    Created a low power state during idle which didn't exist before
    Sync up the internal clock after turning it back on
    Many other palmtop specific enhancements

Most of the above required hand coded assembler and a little C code.  The
original MINIX was not meant to run on and in fact didn't run on the 200LX.

> I could see thanking Andy Tanenbaum or Kees Bot for their excellent work
in
> creating and developing MINIX but I don't see anything that's been done by
> anyone else to enhance it to run on a palmtop.

I agree wholeheartedly about thanking Andy Tanenbaum and Kees Bot as we
wouldn't have MINIX without them, but not seeing doesn't mean it isn't
there.  Most of the work was under the hood.

> The real trick is getting it to boot from a real device as worked on be
> Prof. Dubbs who's work can be found here: http://users.erols.com/rld/

That is nice, but not a requirement to use it.  At this point I hope my
efforts were even worth it as not many folks seem to be interested unless I
am greatly mistaken.  I was looking at doing some further development in
support of modem and ethernet cards, but I don't know at this point if I
will take the time.

Cheers,
Mack

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Tom,

Check out McGrath & Sons İwww.surplus.net/buynsell¨.  I bought a used
reader at Dayton from them.  The first one I couldn't get to work.  The
replacement works fine under Windoze 98.  I'm still playing with Linux
to get access to the Flash card.  I should have it running tomorrow.
The unit is a Databook card and drive.

HTH,
Tom


Tom Hoover wrote:
>
> Several months (maybe a year) ago, someone had posted a message about a PC card reader that was compatible with Linux.  At the time, I was only using Linux on my firewall machine and had my PC card reader installed in a Win95 machine.  I've now switched totally to Linux, but my reader only works with Win95.  Does anyone have a Linux-compatible PC card reader for sale?  Or, a pointer to one?  Thanks!
>
> --
> Tom Hoover N5NTM <tom@hisword.net> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
>     - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
>      ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------
>
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Mack:

I've done little work with Solaris and LINUX so know my way around somewhat.
I know that several sources have pared LINUX down to where it fits onto a
1.44 floppy yet contains everything you need to run a fully functional
firewall.  With those projects they usually have the binaries compressed
which are expanded in memory (RAM Drive) during boot to avoid the use of a
hard disk.  That would be a waste for our purposes I guess since you then
would have a compressed and uncompressed OS competing for space.  In any
event, I guess it could be trimmed down, couldn't it?

I'd like to offer help to slimming things down if that's an option.

Also, I've seem some info regarding your project at:
http://www.linuxce.org/  There seemed to be interest for your efforts there.
They seem interested in getting LINUX/MINIX to boot on anything small, CE or
not.

-Calvin


-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant İmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 8:21 PM
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> I agree, but haven't looked into this aspect of it.  There are
> instructions for doing it as the real MINIX website, and I was hoping
> someone else would pick up that task as I was tired of looking at it
> for quite some time after the last release.

I think you just like to flaunt your 2048MB palmtop.  <g>

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> How many possible combinations of games are there in Freecell?

I think the different combinations of a 52 card deck shuffle is
up in the billions.  Curtis Cameron's FC only has a 6 digit
number so we limited to only a million.

cheers... Russ

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> I've got a problem with Exkey.  The reason I load it at all is because I
> need some of the macro functionality it provides for use in SMMX--
> specifically the larger-than-normal keystroke buffer and the {Wait}
> command.  (Both are required to get Lotus 1-2-3 to open a file when you
> select it in SMMX.)
İ...¨

I use SMMX and open WK1 files without exkey. I also gave up exkey
because of the conflicts with Shift-arrow.

My setup:
- kbuf128.sys in config.sys to extend keyboard buffers (I think it came
with KeyStuff, from SUPER)
- open (from SUPER) to open the WK1 worksheet in 123

I can either set an application icon with the path "c:\bin\open.exe
file.wk1|60" to open file.wk1, or setup SMMX to open all WK1 files with
"c:\bin\open.exe $f|60"

Paulo

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:04:26 -0400
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Does anyone know how to add apps/configure TaskBarLX?  It looks like the
documentation is Japanese...

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David,

> But I also agree that identifyingthe person you're
> quoting (as in the "A Meshar" line above) is very useful, as it lets me
> follow a thread backwards if I have skipped reading messages.

I this case I chose to omit that. Again, I think the important
item here was the message, not who said it.

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07/08/1999.  The New York Times gave us a nice little story about the
impending demise of the 200LX, emphasizing its standalone qualities.  For
some strange reason, they compare us to fans of Elvis.  I never tried
throwing a panty at the LX, but it might make a decent dust cover.  Great
idea for a new topcard screen.  Should we have the young Elvis or the older
Elvis?  If I can find a fake book of Elvis tunes, maybe a set of alarm sounds
would be in order.  HP, you ain't never caught a rabbit and you ain't no
friend of mine.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/08geek.html

-roger-

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On 7 Jul 1999 03:36:13 -0700, franklin@ONLINE.NO (Franklin) wrote:

>
> More interesting is how many on the list... I think Al has mentioned =
945
> people on the mailing list in a post. So everybody has two each :-) =
just in
> case which means 2000 palmtops. Where are the rest of the couple of =
hundred
> thousand sold?
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>
 I guess that was what I really wanted to know..how many lx's are out
 there..how many are we which have seen the light? Are we a dying
 species..

 I am currently trying to get a former lx user back from the
 dark side..that makes me feel good!! He had wandered off to Palm3
 land, but I feel confident that we will have him back soon..

 Should we "advertise" the Hplx mailinglist some more to try to get
 more people to get back to us from the darkside?

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
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On 7 Jul 1999 05:29:00 -0700, Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR ("Araujo, Isaque =
G.") wrote:

> We could get subscribes with name, country and send only one letter !

I will support this solution..my english is not good enough to be able
to explain Hp (in strong enough words) that they are making a big
mistake in discontinuing the Hp 200..

I am a "new" lx diciple, I would have liked to have been introduced to
the Hplx sooner..I have had my Hp 700/200 for approx 8 months now..and
I am impressed of what this machine can do..

Nah..let us not hang with our heads..I guess we all feel a little down
now, but we have a good thing going on the list..you guys are the
best..I can not think of a more helpful crowd anywhere..all my
questions have been answered ,sometimes within minutes. Many of my
questions have been a bit "rookie", which I could have found a answer
to myself with a bit time..thanks for putting up with me..

I feel a little bit lost and afraid that this good thing we have going
will vanish all because Hp let us down like this..but we will
prevale..we will not go quitly into the night!!

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
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On 7 Jul 1999 05:27:38 -0700, garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH (Andreas Garzotto) =
wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > (much better if you turn of EFR when making voicecalls
>
> How do you turn that off? Did not find it anywhere in the menues.

Will check with my friend how you turn off EFR..I think it was something
like this :#3370 and then "Send"..but do not try anything..I do not
want the blame for nuking your phone..will get back to you soon
probably next week..you should find this on the web too I think this
url should work and provide you with the info www.8810.com

My friend told me that his battery life did increase when he turned the
EFR off..the soundquality did not suffer that much I think..

> > This suprises me..the new 7110 is supposed to be able of 14400 if the
> > network supports it. In the 8810 datasheets that I have seen they =
talk
> > about max 9600 bps which is the gsm standard.
>
> I suspect a bit that the 7110 is an "upgrade" of the modern kind: more
> colors, less functionality.

Guess it is a bit "flashy" yes..there are much hype with this wap
thing..what I want in a new phone is more memory for numbers and
sms (then again I will have the ability to transfer sms to the hp..)
and I also want of course the irda and more batterylife than today
(8110i old..)

> > A single speed Hp can do 19200 and a ds can do approx 30 how can we =
take
> > advantage of this speed if the hp can not handle the speed?
>
> Even if only 19200 baud could be used, that would still be twice as
> fast as now.

Yes and 19.2 is the "top speed" of my Hp connected to a external V.90
modem. It is okey for mail/news use so I am looking forward to Telenor
Mobil supporting more than 9600 on their gsm net..

> > Can you do a "one hand 8810/hp200" session.
>
> You can do that. Two handed is much more comfortable though.

What I ment was holding the hp and the phone with the right hand and
typing on the keyboard with the left..


> > Alot of questions..and more to come I am afraid. Do you know anything
> > of the new wap standard 1.1.
>
> Frankly, I am very little interested in that. I believe it will be a
> big flop. WAP is basically a HTML subset, so existing browsers
> automatically support that document format (unless there are also
> *additions* that I am not aware of). You can design clean and lean
> HTML pages today, so WAP seems to be mostly marketing hype.
>
> Andreas
>

When I have used Hv I have often surfed to sites which has a lot of
frames and shit..What I was hoping with the wap thing was that more
webpages/services was developed for the "small" screen. More Palmtop
friendly if you know what I mean. Much like the "palmtopready" pages at
www.palmtop.net

Have a nice weekend..I am off to Pite=E5 Sweden tomorrow  too look at
dragrace (not men dressed up like women!!)..guess it will be time
for a couple hundred beers too.. and some Cocnac and a few cigars..

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
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A very popular phrase from the Triton group (in FastTracker II) says :

Windows, the power of yesterdays in the today's computers

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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Sputnik wrote:
>
> > Hot Swapping deals with different HARDWARE being changed not
> > MEDIA/SOFTWARE
>
> Exactly.  For the equivalent to hot-swapping a flash card in one of these
> direct-connect IDE PC Card readers, try disconnecting an actual ZIP drive
> and replacing it with a CD-ROM drive.  Then try it out.  It probably won't
> work very well... <g>
>
> And yet the manufacturer of this card reader buries this fact deep in the
> literature about it, saying as a footnote "Some systems or BIOSes may
> require you to reboot to recognize media change."

I think you're confusing the media with the card reader. The media (a single PC Card) does not hot swap on the IDE bus. It hot swaps on the PCMCIA bus, which was designed for hot swapping.

You should not remove the card reader from the IDE bus under power, but removing a PC Card should not cause any electrical problems.

I think the comparison to Zip is valid. If you boot an ancient machine without a Zip disk inserted in your IDE Zip drive and you have DOS running when you insert a disk, then you won't see it. An old BIOS ignores that Zip disks are hot swappable and they don't inform DOS of the swap.

If there is a PC Card reader with an eject button that works when the system is powered up then you should obviously be allowed to eject the card. Please, give the device designers credit for some brains. Nobody designs an eject button that you shouldn't touch.

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>> However, there are a number of talented programmers out
>> there, with expertise in the various required areas, and it
>> is possible that with some of co-ordination, we could get a
>> new HP palmtop browser. Still completely pleasing no-one with
>> the results, of course :-)
>
>I agree. So far there was one post from Rod and this post
>from you. No one else, unless I missed someone?  What I
>think I would want most to proceed is a rational outline of
>what the borwser should do - pardon me a thousand time :-) -
>a design. One was implied/promised, but not coming forth.
>Ian, did you fall asleep on this boring project? :) ...
>
>It seems to me with this as a guide, the other pieces can
>begin to fall together in discussions among the prospective
>programmers. When I outlined the project, I commented that
>without a very strong committment and interst level, this
>effort is doomed from the start.

Hmmm. In this case, I will take charge of the project for the time being.
(Unless anyone else would prefer to do it)

Anyone interested in becoming involved in the development of a new browser for
the 200lx, please e-mail me directly with your email address (It would also be
helpful if you can summarize what kind of work you're interested in doing). I
will set up a separate mailing list as a forum for us to discuss the design and
implementation.

It must be made clear from the onset that this project is completely volunteer,
and is only in the initial planning stages. Under no circumstances do I take
any responsibility for actually producing a working browser or making sure that
it has the desired features. At this point I'm just interested in having a look
at the design issues; if it turns out that it's going to take 3 person years of
work to get what ammounts to HV with frames and tables, we have to decide if
it's worth doing.

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Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Rod Whitby wrote:
> > That's the trouble with not releasing source along with executables -
> > he's now not answering email, and no-one knows where he is, and his
> > freeware program (for which he always intended to release the source)
> > is left to bit-rot as the Internet moves on without it
>
> Did you ever consider that YOU might have contributed for this to happen?

Yes, and in that case I'm certain I didn't - he released the
source for version 0.5 as soon as he realised that just one
person (me) was interested in it. It's just a simple case of
him going "off the air" since then (verified by one of his
co-developers saying he's "lost in space").

But it shows how not releasing the source code along with the
executables can produce executables that become obsolete as
the world changes (just like HP not releasing the ROM code for
our beloved palmtop means that there is no chance of ever
burning a ROM with a built-in TCP/IP stack instead of Lotus
123 or whatever other built-in application that you don't
use).

> I contribute
> when *I* want to contribute, and not when other people are harassing
> me, trying to squeeze the source code out of me. Asking me is fine - I
> then can decide myself if I want or not, but pushing again and again
> and again and again makes sure that I never ever will release the
> source code. ;-)

I'll let the others on the list decide whether my single
enquiry on this list about releasing the source code to HV
(and the subsequent retraction after realising that it
contained the WWW/LX API), and a subsequent single enquiry on
this list about source code for IR.EXE (as that's an important
base technology upon which other developers could build),
constitute harrassment or not.  The message received is often
different from the message sent (even though the bytes
transmitted are the same).

> So it *might* be that your efforts actually have the effect contrary to
> your intentions, which I would consider sad! There should be more open
> source software.

Seriously, I rather think that it's the fine line that *you*
personally walk between freeware and commercial software which
is causing you to react differently to requests and questions
that would be taken in a completely different light by someone
who only develops freeware.

Take Telnet/LX, FTP/LX, ROBOT/LX, Post/LX and News/LX for
example - because they will only work with WWW/LX, *I*
personally wouldn't call them freeware (as you need to buy
WWW/LX to be able to use them).  They're great programs and
certainly free for people who've already bought WWW/LX (and
very useful for them, I'm sure), but they're not free for
anyone else (because they won't work without WWW/LX).  Maybe
"tempt-ware" or "strings-attached-ware" might be better names.
But that's just *my* personal opinion, and releasing these
"tempt-ware" programs is certainly a good way of marketing
WWW/LX and a great boon to the proportion of the palmtop
community that uses WWW/LX.

And it's clear that the reason that you don't want to release
the source code to IR.EXE is because you want to use the
technology to tempt people into buying a later D&A product.
Don't get me wrong - it's your perogative to do that and good
luck to you if you can make money doing it.

So if someone asks you for the source code to IR.EXE, you have
to reply as a commercial developer protecting the interests of
the company you work for (as you rightly should). And if
someone criticises the performance of FTP/LX and WWW/LX versus
LXFTP and EPPPD, then you are duty bound to "fight" for the
good name of that company (and continue fighting until the
protagonist backs down, instead of just walking away).

An open-source freeware developer, however, will take a
technical comparison as a good-natured challenge (and often a
source of potential improvement to the code - especially if
the other product is also open-source) rather than as a
personal attack, and will take a request for source code as a
compliment rather than harrassment.  If someone says they can
do better, then the source code is there for them to try.  If
they succeed, then the original developer can reap the benefit
and continue to build upon the improved source code.  If
someone else uses the source code to produce a different tool
(like ccLXPOP), then the developer also reaps the benefit.
Everybody benefits and no-one gets angry.

Your reaction on this list to freeware support questions may
also stem from the same root cause.  If someone asks a stupid
support question about a commercial product, then the
developer feels bound to answer it (again to ensure the good
name of the company is not tarnished).  An open-source
freeware developer can choose to ignore the question (as the
developer doesn't really care if someone who won't read the
instructions doesn't get to benefit from the software).

You say there should be more open source software, but you
haven't released any source since adbload (before you became a
commercial software developer for D&A).  You have, however,
released lots of closed-binary freeware, and you should be
congratulated for that (at least until the world moves on, and
you move on, and D&A moves on, and those closed-binary freeware
programs become obsolete and cannot be upgraded by anyone else).

You've chosen to go down the commercial software development
path, but you're also a developer of closed-binary freeware
executables.  The trouble is that as soon as the two personas
conflict, you're in a catch-22 situation.  You can't win.

But you shouldn't take it out on others - you chose the path
you are following, and only you can decide how you should
react to the people on this list when they approach you in the
same way as they would approach any other freeware developer.

-- Rod Whitby, Snr Staff Eng., Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
-- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net> --

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Russel Brooks wrote:

>> How many possible combinations of games are there in Freecell?
>
>I think the different combinations of a 52 card deck shuffle is
>up in the billions.

"Up in the billions" is short by a few dozen orders of magnitude. Even
considering that each shuffle will yield many thousands of FreeCell
games that are almost just alike, the number is still inconcievable.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:17:42 EDT
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I beg to differ...
I had one of the first 100lx palmtops made in Singapore just after they
shipped the line from Corvallis. My machine developed both the loose
hinge and the broken latch. I took the 100lx to one of the r & d
technicians who put in the stiffer hinge spring and replaced the latch.
He told me that they just changed to the the stiffer spring in
production. This was at a time where onlt 100lx machines were in
production (they may have started building 200lx machines). That machine
lasted me about 3 years before being rebuilt.

David Peterson
HP Corvallis (just another palmtop user)

Curtis Cameron writes:
Daniel McDonough wrote:

My 200 developed the crack a couple of weeks ago. I never abused it.
I'm sure that the talk about HP tightening the hinge in response to
complaints
about lose hinges is correct.

I got my 200LX when they first appeared on the market (I asked my
secretary for a 100LX, but she delivered a 200LX). I've never had the
loose hinge problem, and I have recently developed the dreaded hinge
crack. So I don't think that either is the result of design changes
made later.

Curtis Cameron

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The July 8 edition of the New York Times (Circuits section) carries the
obituary for the 200lx.

Included in the article are quotes from the (in)famous Hal Goldstein and
Jeff Johns.

Available online at http://www.nytimes.com.  You have to register but it
is free; some are worried about spam but two years after registering,
I've yet to get a single piece of mail arising from registration there -
besides, you don't perjure yourself by fibbing in the registration.

Larry Zimmerman.

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Ted Heise wrote:
> Huh?  I must have missed some of these multitudinous pushes.

Yes, you did.

But anyway, according to some reactions, it seems that my message to
Rod was more "aggressive" than I intended it to be. I am sorry about
that. In fact, I appreciate Rod and his work very much and just find
it a pity that - at least to my taste - he pushes a little too much,
maybe provoking the contrary of the originally great intentions.

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>My guess is that after a while, with "small" and "convenient" packages
>steadily growing larger and less convenient, someone will once again
>recognize a market for a pocket form-factor keyboard computer (i.e., like
>the 200LX) and bring out a new machine.

>in favor of either bigger and more capable or smaller and more convenient
>machines.

Jim,

You might take a look at http://www.metromobile.net/prod02.htm
for a possible direction things will go.

I saw one of these at the Showbiz Expo here in Los Angeles a couple
weeks ago.  It's an interactive pager/e-mail/fax etc. device.  It had a
very good feel in the hand, and only requires one AA cell for three
weeks of operation!  They told me the next generation will accept an
external keyboard, and some other things I don't recall now.  Maybe
ports to computer.  He e-mailed to another one nearby and within ten
seconds it was there, and it sent an ack back that the e-mail had gotten
through.  He e-mailed me and when I got home there it was.  I responded
and he responded within a few minutes.

He said the network it's on (Bell South) covers 90% of the U.S.
population, and works very well in fringe cell phone areas. It even has
encryption, and for only $30.00 a month! (25,000 characters per month)
I'll bet that something like this could be very useful in a business
environment, and that the next step would be to add in computing power,
flash storage space, etc.  Maybe it already works on Dos, I don't know,
but perhaps input from the list will get them interested in developing
it that direction.

The thing about a telephone, cell or radiophone, is they are insane.
They demand immediate attention like a small child no matter what you
are doing.  An e-mail interactive pager is polite and can wait, but you
know you got the mail.  And you don't have to chase up a phone, or fry
your brains with a cell phone.  (You fry your hip instead...) You can
respond at your leisure, so as to be more productive.

Maybe with development something like this could be used as a remote to
your home or office computer, so that it can remain quite small, too.

Is this an HPLX? No, but if there was enough demand for something like
an interactive HPLX it'd get developed that way.  So speak out!

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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I lost track of this software a long time ago, after Lotus Agenda came out.
I do recall that it was a DOS appointment calendar program that was later
ported to Windows.  The name of the developer may have been Campbell Systems.
 Since I am getting older, the cobwebs on the brain proliferate, but I have a
vague sense that the original name of On Time was The Reminder System.  It
was okay, and allowed you to use up to 20 user-defined categories for your
appointments, but it never struck me as a "must have," "like, WOW!" item.  In
fact, I thought that a shareware package called Ticklex by Integra Systems
did the job as well, or even better.  I don't know if On Time was/is Y2K
compliant.  If I've given you any leads that help in finding it, please post
your impressions to the list.

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>> be nice to get the registered version without the nag screen.
>
>Exactly! One of the numbers is an Alabama number that I tried with no
luck
>and the other is a Mississippi number. Maybe if I can track him down,
he
>will release the code, where it can be modified. It's an extremely
useful
>piece of software IMO.
>>           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----


It is fairly easy Jeff to remove the nag screen, the easiest most
brutal way (is there any other) is to fire up a file editor (there is
one in PC Tools) that shows hex bytes and the ascii equivalent,
search for the nag text string and overwrite it with hex no. 00

Of course I know nothing of this........8-)  ,

Regards....Liam
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:46:22 -0400
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Hi Ian,

>...Where it
>could be sped up is by implementing the CPU emulation in assembler. This
>is a mammoth task which I've completed about 75% of (of the typing at
>least) for the Hitachi SH3 CPU (currently about 7000 lines of RISC
>assembler). The revenue I receive from XTCE at the moment does not
>justify completing this.

>...I was going to port it to the
>Psion 5 now that they've made the SDK freely available, but once again,
>the rewards are too small and the work is too big.

  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that current sales
figures for the DOS emulator are very much related to how fast it
currently runs DOS programs in real world situations.

  IMHO if writing the CPU emulation in assembler or just porting it to
the Psion 5 would make it faster overall in real world use than a double
speed HP200LX, then I would expect the resulting sales of your DOS
emulator to increase significantly, making the rewards much greater.

  However, would that increase the speed of screen refreshes, as well?
I've seen posts on this list claiming that screen refreshes are also too
slow. In real world use, a slow screen refresh rate could negate any
improvement in CPU emulation speed.

  I'm very interested in everything you have to say about the future of
your DOS emulator. I'm truly looking forward to seeing a version that
actually does run DOS software faster in all respects than a double speed
HP200LX in real world use.

  Your further comments are definitely welcomed! :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
32MB Doublespeed HP200LX
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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I think the number would be 52!(factorial) in the first space you can have one of 52
cards, in the second one of the remaining 51 and so forth through the array.  So the
total would be 52 x 51 x 50  on and on to 1. I think it would be 70 digits long or so.
so the answer is MANY.



> > How many possible combinations of games are there in Freecell?
>
> I think the different combinations of a 52 card deck shuffle is
> up in the billions.  Curtis Cameron's FC only has a 6 digit
> number so we limited to only a million.
>
> cheers... Russ
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:45:20 -0500
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      Re: HisWord... help.... please...
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:18:18PM -0500, Jeff Johns wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:55:40 -0500, Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM> wrote:
>
> > Yes, the definition feature is implemented...have you installed the Hebrew/Greek Lexicons?
>
> Ack.... no :( Are they also available from your web site?

Yes.  :-)  BTW- I'll probably be uploading the files to SUPER this weekend, if they'll take them (Mitch?)  I'm loosing part of my FTP space, and will no longer have room to store them.

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <tom@hisword.net> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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> would have a compressed and uncompressed OS competing for space.  In any
> event, I guess it could be trimmed down, couldn't it?

It supposedly can be trimmed down to 8MBs or so without the source and
reducing the free space.  I wanted to have the full version out there at
first for the adventurous types. :-)

> I'd like to offer help to slimming things down if that's an option.

That would be greatly appreciated as more folks would be able to use it at
that point. My idea was to bring the project to a certain point and have
others help after that with drivers, trimming down, palmtop software, etc.

> Also, I've seem some info regarding your project at:
> http://www.linuxce.org/  There seemed to be interest for your efforts
there.
> They seem interested in getting LINUX/MINIX to boot on anything small, CE
or
> not.

Thanks for the info on the site.  It has some very interesting stuff.  I
have been interested in looking into ports of Linux for CE machines, and
other PDA devices.

Cheers,
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>
>All I did was spend several months in an unfamiliar computing environment
>learning how to reprogram it to work on the palmtop.  It needed a lot of
>changes to make it work in the palmtop environment such as:
>
>    Getting it to stop crashing on the 200LX which made it unusable on the
>200LX at first
>    Allow it to recognize a 200LX environment
>    Support for reading the clock from the 200LX which does not have a CMOS
>    Handling interrupt 0A which is a palmtop specific
>    Allow use of the ON key to be able to turn the palmtop off and back on
>    Created a low power state during idle which didn't exist before
>    Sync up the internal clock after turning it back on
>    Many other palmtop specific enhancements
>
>Most of the above required hand coded assembler and a little C code.  The
>original MINIX was not meant to run on and in fact didn't run on the 200LX.
>
Sounds like thanks are in order to me. How does one clap with email?

Best Regards,
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>Well,   I went and got a 680 CE.   Can't say I like it or dislike it..
>
>I can't get it to talk to my PC.
>my Nice New 680 will not send a Break to the modem
>the phone directory of the 200 MAY convert over to the 680 but all my
Notes are Toast
>With the 200 all I had to do was hit F2 to ADD, with the 680 I must drag
out that little pen and hit the little box
>Only good thing I have found so far is the back light... But wait... I am
in the Sun and now I can't see a thing
>It will not fit into my shirt pocket

I vote for "dislike!"

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:44:13 EDT
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In a message dated 7/7/1999 09:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jeffj@SCOTT.NET writes:

> How many possible combinations of games are there in Freecell?
>
If you mean the total possible deals, its 52! -- 8.1 x 10¬67.

However, there are quite a few functionally equivalent hands.  If all 4 aces
are on the top & at the right, it makes no difference what order they are in.
 This simple fact divides the number of playing situations by 4x3x2, or 24,
reducing the number to 3.4E+66.

If any column is made up of 4 aces and 2  (4 columns) or 3 (4 columns)
deuces, it again makes no difference what the order of the cards.  It also
makes no difference which column it is. There are 2.3 x 10¬3 ways (for all 8
columns) that this can be done (for a _specified_ 2 or 3 deuces), reducing
the total to 2.6 E+59 possible playing situations.  {Well, this isn't quite
true.  For instance, if all 3 duces are on top, and the next ace is the
missing suit, you do have a different situation.  Multiply by twenty = 5.3
E+60}

I would be very surprised if anyone can calculate the number of different
playing challenges.  (I also expect that someone will find some math errors
above, if they care to look.)  I'm just trying to illustrate the magnitude of
the problem.

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This reply is off the list.

I am the guilty party regarding having tipped Mr. Headlam off in advance of
the HP announcement, but with the proviso that he not use the tip until HP
had actually confirmed.  I received an e-mail from Mr. Headlam yesterday
(Tuesday), referring to the official announcement.  I e-mailed him some
comments today from my palmtop.com account while I was at work, probably at
about the same time you were posting your message to the list.  We'll see
what he comes up with in tomorrow's edition.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 06:22:20 -0700
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, amanda wrote:

> I think you're confusing the media with the card reader. The media (a
> single PC Card) does not hot swap on the IDE bus. It hot swaps on the
> PCMCIA bus, which was designed for hot swapping.

Of course it SHOULD, but these are not real PCMCIA card readers!  That is
the *point*!  They masquerade as a PCMCIA reader, but actually all they do
is connect the PCMCIA pins to the IDE cable.

> You should not remove the card reader from the IDE bus under power,
> but removing a PC Card should not cause any electrical problems.

Re-read the post of mine that you qutoed.  It is EXACTLY the same thing if
you remove the card or yank the whole drive.  Either way.  Believe me.

> If there is a PC Card reader with an eject button that works when the
> system is powered up then you should obviously be allowed to eject the
> card. Please, give the device designers credit for some brains. Nobody
> designs an eject button that you shouldn't touch.

You're 100% wrong on that, which is *EXACTLY* why this device is so
stupid.  If you eject the card, it's the same as removing the actual card
reader.  The ONLY way you can eject the card safely is with the machine
off.  Okay?  I hope this is clear enough.  I can't make it any clearer:
the people who designed this thing get NO credit for brains.  They get
credit for Microsoft-esque marketing, though.  "It's a great PCMCIA
reader!  And cheap, too!"

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 06:36:29 -0700
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> Hmmm. In this case, I will take charge of the project for the time being.
> (Unless anyone else would prefer to do it)

Go for it.

> Anyone interested in becoming involved in the development of a new browser for
> the 200lx, please e-mail me directly with your email address (It would also be
> helpful if you can summarize what kind of work you're interested in doing). I
> will set up a separate mailing list as a forum for us to discuss the design and
> implementation.

How about staying right here ad discuss here, so the rest of
us can peek in and provide input? If you are doing it for the
community, it would be good to hear its voice.

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Calvin,

On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:15:25 -0400, Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET> wrote:

> No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix
> package before from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't
> see any difference.  So what did Mack do and why are we
> thanking him?  As far as I can tell (with a quick glance...)
> it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088
> machines. I could see thanking Andy Tanenbaum or Kees Bot for
> their excellent work in creating and developing MINIX but I
> don't see anything that's been done by anyone else to enhance
> it to run on a palmtop.

Indeed a quick glance... You should have taken more glances :)
Hey, even if he did nothing and the thank you note is in
error, how would you feel to be in Mack's shoes?

I am sorry you chose to express it as you did. I am a member
in this community (as well as a vendor). I can assure you
there are not many heavy duty contributors as Mack is. Maybe
you do not know it. That is something you may need to do some
homework on.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software
 http://www.dasoft.com

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Hi Mack,

I am wondering why this community seems to be
self-destructive. I never d/l Minix, but I read about some of
what you had to go through (you just posted much more details
than I knew you did!) Seems to me that blowing your head off
is a thoughtless act of one individual. But then there are
others (Andreas among them) and I find it amazing. This isn't
the first for you, and I suspect from the patterns emerging,
not the last. All I can say is this: I am really sorry that
that one individual chose to post what he did. I apologize to
you for this as a member of this community.

Let me add two other points:

- I hope that you will find more value in working with those of
us who like what you do and appreciate the contributions you
make, and that this will hold you among us. I personally know
of some of the work you are doing to continue the growth of
this platform, work that is long term, and as yet is
unannounced or even hinted (this is probably the biggest hint
todate! ;-¨)

- I am a little disappointed that the reactions to the less
than considerate post was not swifter and more vocal - maybe
this community seems to say in its silence that it agrees
with the poster? I hope not.

All the best,

 Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
 İin slightly overcast, perfectly comfortable
  northern Switzerland...¨

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Lynn,

> Its not that I'm not interested. I just don't have a clue.

You, like me, do not use Unix, and do not have a real specific
need for it, or even a wow! factor need for it. I used Win3.0
for sometime to elicit such astonished looks, and it was fun,
but I could not get any specific work out of it.

So you and I are probably not the right candidates to push
Minix to. But I think there are people here who are, and will
get more useful work out of it than you and I.

> Double speed, I understand.  32 Megs I understand.  Thank you.  But Minix I
> just don't understand.  I'm commuting 3 1/2 hrs a day, and don't have space
> in my limited life to learn a toy that won't help me.

Frankly, I don't really think Mack had you specifically in
mind when he did all the work. Probably did not even think
about me :) ... Let's face it, Lynn, there are other
important people in the world, despite what we think of
ourselves!

Of course, I can tell you that Mack is in the process now of
chasing a funny bug(?), behaviour(?) which I found. And he is
doing it FOR ME! :) ...

> Am I missing something?

Yes, maybe. The pursuit of what other walls can be pushed with
the palmtop is important for us, especially as the
ill-advised HP decision is just around the corner. The Amiga
lives so long because it has a fervent following, people who
push and push and push its walls outward. If we don't do the
same with the Palmtop, it'll crumble very soon.

> Clueless in DC,

Full of clues in Switzerland :-) ...

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Fred,

> Wait till you try setting an appointment for a different country or
> timezone.  First, you will have to change the local country/zone to
> whereever it is the appt will take place (or multiple time changes for
> different places), set the appt or appts, then reset the time back to
> your real local time/place.

It is a feature, man, it is a feature... :-(

David Shier travelled once to Florida and set up his flight
back as appointment. I believe his flight back was at 4p. He
entered it.

When in Florida, he changed to the local timezone. Bingo you
guessed it - his WinCE something (I think it was a 620) moved
the flight appointment to 7p. He missed the flight.

Imagine: You are in Los Angeles with a WinCE machine (Lalaland
with lalaCE :-¨) and you make an appointment with someone in
London. "Hi, Bob! What time is good to meet?" "Oh, how about
tea and crumpets at 1600?" "Hey, Bob, what timezone are you
in? How many hours are you ahead of me?" "Why, I imagine 8
hours, why?" "Oh, I am setting the appointment for 1600 minus
800 = 800!" "Fred, I said tea, not breakfast!" And so on...

Microsoft, and HP, actually explained that this is a feature

Then Harry calls from London. "You want to meet with me for
breakfast, Fred?" "ummm... let's see, No Harry, I have a
meeting at 8am with Bob, how about at 4p?" "Hmmmm... Strange,
I have a meeting with Bob for breakfast, and he said nothing
about you coming along!" --- So much for feature. How does the
saying go? Feature, my XXX!

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Roger
I believe that I may have the original OnTime disk if you can give me this
weekend to try and locate it. I also received it as a 'freebie" when it first
came out frtom Campbell Systems.
tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:57:19 -0300
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Subject:      Re: MINIX on the hp200lx

Well, if you need help to reduce the size I am a volunteer because I want a
Unix on my big machine, but I don't have enought space.

There is another project - I guess you heard about it - called ELKS to port
Linux to 8088/8086 Z80. It is working, but not on HP200LX. I tried to run it
on my HP but without success - maybe because I don't have all needed skills.

This system would be nice on HP, but I don't know who could be able to put
it working on HP.

 /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
(=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
 '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000

> From: Mack Baggette İSMTP:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 12:21 AM
>
> That would be greatly appreciated as more folks would be able to use it at
> that point. My idea was to bring the project to a certain point and have
> others help after that with drivers, trimming down, palmtop software, etc.
>
> Thanks for the info on the site.  It has some very interesting stuff.  I
> have been interested in looking into ports of Linux for CE machines, and
> other PDA devices.
>

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Has the latest PTP been mailed yet?


Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
Swain West Rm. 117
Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:47:46 -0400
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Can ELKS run on a 200lx?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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<<Has anyone sucessfully managed to register Stereo Shell? I have not been
able to track down the author to register it and the phone numbers provided
on the shareware nag screen are not correct for the author.>>

Ed Keefe used to have running email contact with the author.  However, we
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Well, I don't really know how to interpret the NY Times article :-/ The
reporter definately misquoted me, but got the general point across. It's
kinda cool being referred to as an Elvis fan, since Elvis isn't dead, it
means the LX will live on for decades.

Jeff

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       "Hewlett-Packard to Shut Down Production of a Cult Favorite "

In the sixties I was a revolutionary, now I'm a member of a cult.

       "But,
        like fans of Elvis, Palmtop
        aficionados can't really believe
        the king is gone. "

Ack!!  Now I'm sure we've been insulted.

     " 'How many
        policemen do you know who exchange messages with
        cosmonauts while driving around in their squad car?" Johns
        asked. ' "

Maybe one less, if the good citizens of Jefferson County knew what
Jeff really uses his 200lx for; FREECELL!

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The way I understand it, Elvis is alive still and sustains himself on the
remanufacturing of obsolete technologies.

Newtons, TRS80s, Commodore 64s, Atari 2600s, etc. are all still in
manufacture by the King and sold on his website, E-Bay (what'd you think
the 'E' abbreviated?).

Unfortunately, Elvis is a hardware man and efforts to get him into the
software market with compilation CDs of DOSs greatest hits have not met
with much success.  Perhaps a letter-writing campaign to Graceland is in
order.

Larry Zimmerman.


On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:06:19 -0500 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
>...kinda cool being referred to as an Elvis fan, since Elvis isn't dead,

>it means the LX will live on for decades.


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<<Has the latest PTP been mailed yet?>>

No. Sorry.  It will be mailed out at the end of next week.

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Jeff

<<Well, I don't really know how to interpret the NY Times article :-/ The
reporter definately misquoted me, but got the general point across. It's
kinda cool being referred to as an Elvis fan, since Elvis isn't dead, it
means the LX will live on for decades.>>


Is the article available on line?  If not, would you mind faxing it to me at
515 472 1879?  Thanks!!

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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:04:26 -0400, Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET> =
wrote:

cl> Does anyone know how to add apps/configure TaskBarLX?  It looks like =
the
cl> documentation is Japanese...

Open the TBLX.dat file (should be in C:\_dat) to see the format.
Basically enter the program=3D the scancode for your hot key. You can use
hot keys assigned in Smmx as well as App Manager. Square brackets are
headers for cascading menus.

HTH

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It looks like I wasn't immune after all.  My SG4 200LX
has finally developed the infamous hinge crack.  It's an
old unit (4-5 years).  Anyone know if HP will fix a unit
that I assume is way out of warrantee without charging me
big bucks?  Otherwise, I guess it's super glue and case
opening time.

Thanks,
        Bill Schell
        bill@bell-labs.com

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Thu,  8 Jul 1999 12:19:17 -0400 (EDT)

50m52s ago ...
On Thu,  8 Jul 1999, Jim Krist wrote:

>        "Hewlett-Packard to Shut Down Production of a Cult Favorite "
>
> In the sixties I was a revolutionary, now I'm a member of a cult.

<paranoid rant>
Sheesh - First HP plans to "upgrade" us, now I suppose we can expect
Bill Gate$ to send out deprogrammers.  Of course if M$ deprogramming
works like M$ programming, we probably shouldn't worry   8->
</paranoid rant>

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>Well, I don't really know how to interpret the NY Times article :-/ The
>reporter definately misquoted me, but got the general point across.

Jeff:

Don't feel badly about being misquoted. Having been quoted in the Times,
Wall Street Journal and other publications, getting the general point
across is the best you can hope for.

On the other hand, if you don't like how you were quoted, you can always
say "I never said that...I was misquoted!"  You never have to worry about
witnesses, or corroborating evidence. No one remembers what you said, only
that you were in the paper.

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Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET> wrote:

Does anyone know how to add apps/configure TaskBarLX?  It looks like the
documentation is Japanese...



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Yeap, sure do!  Drop me a line and I'll send you  a copy of the english
translation.


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Thu,  8 Jul 1999 13:01:59 -0400 (EDT)

44m40s ago ...
On Thu,  8 Jul 1999, Paul Yarnell wrote:

> Basically enter the program=3D the scancode for your hot key. You can =
use
> hot keys assigned in Smmx as well as App Manager.

Interesting...  If you have SMMx working, you're a better man than I
am!  After trying to install it 4 times, and locking up the palmtop
each time, I gave up on it.  Using XF for prog launcher & file browser
now. It's not the easiest program to customise, but it IS one of the
most versatile.  Also stable.  XF has never locked up the LX.

Anyway, back to TaskBar - Is there a way to launch DOS executables, or
just EXMs and the built-ins?  I have the cascading menues working, and
can launch the system manager stuff, but haven't worked the DOS stuff.


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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:18:47 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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Subject:      Re: ELKS

I still couldn't load ELKS on my LX !

 /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
(=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
 '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000

> From: aguze118 İSMTP:aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU¨
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 11:48 AM
>
> Can ELKS run on a 200lx?
>

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       "Hewlett-Packard to Shut Down Production of a Cult Favorite "

In the sixties I was a revolutionary, now I'm a member of a cult.

       "But,
        like fans of Elvis, Palmtop
        aficionados can't really believe
        the king is gone. "

Ack!!  Now I'm sure we've been insulted.

     " 'How many
        policemen do you know who exchange messages with
        cosmonauts while driving around in their squad car?" Johns
        asked. ' "

Maybe one less, if the good citizens of Jefferson County knew what
Jeff really uses his 200lx for; FREECELL!

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The way I understand it, Elvis is alive still and sustains himself on the
remanufacturing of obsolete technologies.

Newtons, TRS80s, Commodore 64s, Atari 2600s, etc. are all still in
manufacture by the King and sold on his website, E-Bay (what'd you think
the 'E' abbreviated?).

Unfortunately, Elvis is a hardware man and efforts to get him into the
software market with compilation CDs of DOSs greatest hits have not met
with much success.  Perhaps a letter-writing campaign to Graceland is in
order.

Larry Zimmerman.


On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:06:19 -0500 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
>...kinda cool being referred to as an Elvis fan, since Elvis isn't dead,

>it means the LX will live on for decades.


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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:28:57 -0400, Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET> wrote:

> Maybe one less, if the good citizens of Jefferson County knew what
> Jeff really uses his 200lx for; FREECELL!

Shhh..... don't tell anyone <g>!

Jeff

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Hey, now that's a program I used to like. I used the DOS version for a while
and went to Windslows.  It was a good program in its day. I thought it was
better than Organizer for scheduling.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: aguze118 İmailto:aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU¨
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:43 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ On-Time
>
>
> Roger
> I believe that I may have the original OnTime disk if you can
> give me this
> weekend to try and locate it. I also received it as a
> 'freebie" when it first
> came out frtom Campbell Systems.
> tony Guzewicz
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> > But I also agree that identifyingthe person you're
> > quoting (as in the "A Meshar" line above) is very useful, as it lets me
> > follow a thread backwards if I have skipped reading messages.
>
> I this case I chose to omit that. Again, I think the important
> item here was the message, not who said it.

We have a difference of opinion here, then.  I think WHO says something
is just as important (and, in many cases, a lot more important) than what
they said.  And I hate reading messages with quotes from an unidentified
source and then having to search backwards to find the right message you
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Peniel
I have gotten more support for my 200lx from this list than HP ever thought
of giving. Thanks to one and all for being there for us.

Dennis

<< Excellent.  As long as WE don't give in to the Dark Side, we can have
 our favorite platform supported by fellow enthusiasts. >>

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Check out this story, once again the fact are wrong, they say HP is
discontinuing the 200LX after it's introduction *2* years ago :(

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/CNET/cnet_olddevices990707.html


Jeff

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When I was replying to Bruce Headlam of the New York Times, I got to
typing and thinking at the same time, and came up with an idea that may
or may not be usable.

I had the idea that a new machine could have a swappable power pack.
One being a high-density rechargble pack (LiIon, NiMH, no NiCD :) which
clipped neatly and securely into the new machine (either being part of
the outside case, or sliding inside; part of the case probably being
better) which is fully rechargable and such..  And the other option, the
same sized battery pack, clips onto/into the case of the machine, but
uses 2 or 3 AA batteries as the power source.

Assuming that 2 or 3 AAs would run a sufficient time, but at least when
the battery pack dies, there are *always* AA's around.  Maybe even
better, is a high-density pack that fits in the exact same compartment
as the 3 AA's so there wouldn't even be two pieces of the battery pack.
So if the pack dies, it is replaced with AA's..

I figure it's gonna go in a loop..  Palmtops are going to get bigger and
clumbiser, and more and more people are going to say "make something
smaller, we don't want a laptop!" and some brilliant marketing person
will say "hey, let's make a machine with a SMALL profile like they did
back in the day!"

And hope it comes soon.. :)
--
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These things are a great advancement.  Note it is not WinCE.  I wonder if all
the garbage attached by Outlook & other MS products count toward the monthly
byte limit.

I think it would be great if they could get a palmtop's alarm to activate the
pager.  I sometimes walk a few rooms away from my 200LX and miss an alarm.


Don.

 -----Original Message-----
You might take a look at http://www.metromobile.net/prod02.htm
for a possible direction things will go.

He e-mailed me and when I got home there it was.  I responded
and he responded within a few minutes.

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On 8 Jul 99, at 11:04, Hal Goldstein wrote:


>
>
> Is the article available on line?

I would like to know also. Here in Portugal is not allways easy to
geta copy of the NY Times. Herald Tribune, Wall Street Journal or
Finantial Times and british newspapers yes, but to get a copy of
the NY Times I would have to visit almost all the newsstands or
drive 15 km to the airport.

TIA

Antonio
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:27:55 -0400
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Subject:      Re: MINIX on the hp200lx

>
> Just a quick question on MINIX for the hp200lx, I downloaded
> the minix.zip
> file from the URL http://minix.hplx.net which displayed the following
> statement:
>
> "Thanks to Mack Baggette of Times2Tech, we now have a
> functioning version of
> Minix on our favorite palmtop PC.
> Obtain your very own copy here: (beware, it's 6.25MB zipped, and 40 MB
> unzipped)."
>
> No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix
> package before
> from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any
> difference.  So what
> did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far as I can
> tell (with a quick
> glance...) it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS ran on 8088
> machines.

Huh? Maybe you haven't looked at it enough to realize that, until Mack got
into the mix, Minix was a nice experiment but could not run w/out crashing.
I understand that he worked on it a great deal in order to get it actually
running. Now we have an actual alternate O/S for the 200LX with a full blown
development environment. I just hope enough people jump on the bandwagon and
develop software for minux/lx.

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I need to find a recent Microsoft ad, and am hoping someone remembers
seeing it.

I think it was for Microsoft Office 2000. It featured a guy sitting at his
computer, in a TShirt and pajama bottoms or sweats, eating a bowl of cereal.

If anyone remembers seeing the ad, and remembers which prodict it was for,
please email me directly.

Even better, if you can pinpoint the magazine and month and page where it
appeared, that would be better.

If any of you bought today's New York TImes to see the article on the
demise of the HP200, there is an ad for AT&T Online Customer Service in the
main section with a very similar picture.

(I recently recycled  most of my computer and business magazines, and now
cannot find the MS ad.)

TIA

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mack Baggette İmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 7:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ MINIX on the hp200lx
>
>
> > No offense to Mack Baggette but I've downloaded the minix
> package before
> > from http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and don't see any
> difference.  So what
> > did Mack do and why are we thanking him?  As far as I can
> tell (with a
> quick
> > glance...) it's the very same version of MINIX that ALWAYS
> ran on 8088
> > machines.
>
> All I did was spend several months in an unfamiliar computing
> environment
> learning how to reprogram it to work on the palmtop.  It
> needed a lot of
> changes to make it work in the palmtop environment such as:
>

>SNIP

>That is nice, but not a requirement to use it.  At this point I hope my
>efforts were even worth it as not many folks seem to be interested unless I
>am greatly mistaken.  I was looking at doing some further development in
>support of modem and ethernet cards, but I don't know at this point if I
>will take the time.


Dammit! Don't let one guy's negative comments sour you on minix. (Besides,
he seems to be contrite about it now) I think that getting modem or ethernet
to work would be great! There's a good bit of source code out there for Unix
apps that could be ported to minix. That coupled with connectivity would
take us to the next level.

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> From: Hal Goldstein
> Is the article available on line?

> From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes İmailto:abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT¨
> I would like to know also. Here in Portugal is not allways easy to
> geta copy of the NY Times. Herald Tribune, Wall Street Journal or
> Finantial Times and british newspapers yes, but to get a copy of
> the NY Times I would have to visit almost all the newsstands or
> drive 15 km to the airport.

  The article is available online.

  Go here:

http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/08geek.html

  If you're not a registered user, you'll get shunted to a sign-up page.
(Sign-up is free...)  Once you're signed-up, you can access most of the
NYTimes web site.

  Good luck,
          ... JLS

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: a new 200LX

> When I was replying to Bruce Headlam of the New York Times, I got to
> typing and thinking at the same time, and came up with an idea that may
> or may not be usable.
>
> I had the idea that a new machine could have a swappable power pack.
> One being a high-density rechargble pack (LiIon, NiMH, no NiCD :) which
> clipped neatly and securely into the new machine (either being part of
> the outside case, or sliding inside; part of the case probably being
> better) which is fully rechargable and such..  And the other option, the
> same sized battery pack, clips onto/into the case of the machine, but
> uses 2 or 3 AA batteries as the power source.
>
> Assuming that 2 or 3 AAs would run a sufficient time, but at least when
> the battery pack dies, there are *always* AA's around.  Maybe even
> better, is a high-density pack that fits in the exact same compartment
> as the 3 AA's so there wouldn't even be two pieces of the battery pack.
> So if the pack dies, it is replaced with AA's..
>

Thats how the original HP Omnibook 300 and the Olivetti Quatro (?)
worked. They both had internal compartments that could either take AA
cells or a NiCd battery and used special contacts to recharge so as
not to accidentally recharge AA's.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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GEEK.HTML?

That's the kind of respect we get.

- Longden





"Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM> on 07/08/99 01:06:45 PM

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Subject:      Re: IDE PCMCIA socket

> > If there is a PC Card reader with an eject button that works when the
> > system is powered up then you should obviously be allowed to eject the
> > card. Please, give the device designers credit for some brains. Nobody
> > designs an eject button that you shouldn't touch.
>
> You're 100% wrong on that, which is *EXACTLY* why this device is so
> stupid.  If you eject the card, it's the same as removing the actual card
> reader.  The ONLY way you can eject the card safely is with the machine
> off.  Okay?  I hope this is clear enough.  I can't make it any clearer:
> the people who designed this thing get NO credit for brains.  They get
> credit for Microsoft-esque marketing, though.  "It's a great PCMCIA
> reader!  And cheap, too!"

I just wanted to add that eject buttons have been on LOTS of computer
devices that you are not supposed to eject at certain times. Look at
the eject button on a floppy, if you hit it during a write the floppy
is toast, that is why the MAC's didn't have eject buttons on
floppies. Also, on some older MO drives if they weren't shut down
properly BEFORE the eject buttin was pressed you would totally
destroy the disk via a head crash, but they had eject buttons.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Subject:      Free-Ware,OpenSourceWare, & TemptWare. FLUFF-LONG

   I think a quick reading of a new book, "Open Sources,Voices from the
Open Source Revolution" edited by Chris DiBona, Sam Ockman & Mark Sloan,
released  January, l999 by O"Reilly will shed more light and less heat on
these topics. Particularly relevant to software developers would be the
article "Open Source as a Business Strategy",by Brian Behlendorf.
   However, there is also the cautionary tale of Troll Tech, the Qt
X-window GUI library and the GNOME GUI project for Linux. My
understanding of this passage of events was further amplified by a
conversation I had with Eric Troan of RedHat  Software at their release
of RedHat 6.0.
   The RedHat 5.0 and 5.2 distributions came with the KDE desktop
environment, which is derived from proprietary software source code (the
Qt Library)and so had to be release under a separate enduser agreement,
rather  than the GPL (Gnu Public License).  Subsequent to that time, the
GNOME Desktop has matured and stabilized and Redhat has elected to
utilize it as their preferred GUI front end for RedHat 6.0 cleaning up
all possible issues of opensource licensing.
At the same time, Troll Tech initially resisted releasing the Qt Library
under open/free source code license because of proprietary agreements
with MicroSoft among others and a marketing position which could be
interpreted as "temptWare". This changed when GNOME was landed as release
2.0, stable and mature, and the HARMONY project, essentially a
free-software clone of ALL KDE functions was announced as 80 % complete.
Troll Tech subsequently did release a form of the Qt Library under an
open source license in a belated attempt to be included as a "me-too"
desktop in the RedHat 6.0 Distribution. They are included with the
distribution but are not the default GUI. As a further evidence of
RedHat's commitment to opensourcing is the absence of the Metro-X Server
in the 6.0 release, when it had been bundled into the 5.0 and 5.2
releases.
   Why is this important or even relevant? The future of software
development appears to be in the direction of open sourcing. However, the
market pressures which brought about the formation of the Mozilla.Org and
release of NetScape core source code, and the subsequent coming on board
of Correll with the release of WordPerfect 8 as free-sourcecode and IBM's
beta port of their voice recognition software are not readily apparent in
the marketplace for HP-LX Software. I hardly think the interest is there
for a large group of developers to create clones of some of  the fine
proprietary software available. I don't think that this is worth the
ruffled feathers or  hard feelings arguing about free or opensourcing
HPLX Software.
   There is a place for proprietary software, much as there is for custom
software. But it is a small market, and not subject to the same pressures
as the Great Baza'ar.  If Avi or Andreas make a tool that is useful to
me, I will buy it. There seems little danger of creating another
BillBorg. If Rod Whitby creates a tool which I find useful and gives it
away, I will use it. I'll probably also have the added benefit of using
it until the nth generation and iteration long after Rod stops working on
it, because of its OpenSource nature.
   Probably of greater relevance to the users of HP-LXes is the growing
certainty that WINCE is roadkill. As is the proprietary model as
practiced by MicroSoft. In the Seattle area  we were recently treated to
the hilarious spectacle of Eric Raymond being invited to speak to an
in-house group of programmers at MicroSoft on the OpenSource revolution.
It was a standing room only group of 200 Millionaire wanna-be's who
simply did not want to hear about it! And yet, Windows 2000 will not ship
in a usable form by 2000. At an estimated 60 million lines of code and
growing it's getting out of control. WINCE is in the same leaky boat.
   It's too bad HP has elected to climb aboard this same foundered craft.
But companies change and bad marketing strategies get implemented. The
changes are coming.
   When I visit the physical plant of GO2NET, it seems the  chief
engineer is always rebooting his NT machines. And this is one of the few
Net Enterprises actually showing profits and not paper/vapor gains. Can
you doubt this is bankrupt technology? Linux/APACHE servers go months
without
reboots or major tangles.
   I am confident that my HP-LX will serve me through the next several
years until something better comes along. But in the meantime we may see
castles fall and mountains tumble.
                                                      Cheers,
                                                      Bob Perron


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> HP, you ain't never caught a rabbit and you ain't no friend of mine.

Thank you, Roger, thank you very much.....
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:17:51 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

>Anyway, back to TaskBar - Is there a way to launch DOS executables, or
>just EXMs and the built-ins?  I have the cascading menues working, and
>can launch the system manager stuff, but haven't worked the DOS stuff.

As far as TaskBar goes, EXEs are defined to it in the same manner as EXMs --
just put in the keycode   (example from mine, for Collins Dictionary:
                                            Dictionary=2000

I then have an appropriate definition in MoreExm.  Finally I have a
15586-byte stub in the Collins directory named COLLINS.EXM, using
ExmBatch (EXMBAT15.ZIP).

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In a message dated 7/8/1999 01:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> I think WHO says something is just as important (and, in many cases, a lot
more
> important) than what they said.

Exactly.  If one day a person says, "I never had sex with that woman, Miss
Lewensky,"  (and it turns out that he did) and later says, "China did not get
any nuclear secrets from us," I judge the latter statement in light of the
former.

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Subject:      Re: HP200LX Appt Book restore?

> > Where the frig is your backup copy?!
>
> <snip long, Unabomber-esque rant>
>
> Geez, Stan.  I don't mean to denigrate the importance of making a backup
> (everybody please backup your data daily, and we'll all lead healthier,
> happier lives) but sometimes bad things do happen.  Sometimes good,
> honest, hardworking folks can lose data even if they have recently done a
> backup.  Nothing is 100% certain.  No need to make people who are having
> to cope with the loss of loved data feel worse by brutally shredding them
> in public.

Hi; thanx for your vote of support.

As to where is my backup copy, the answer is I make one
religously every few days.  In fact, I wrote the "lxbackup"
program, which is the greatest backup utility for the 95/100/200
that you can get, if I do say so myself.  Look for it at an
archive site near you.

Unfortunately, my friend doesn't back up *her* hp200lx with
any regularity, despite my reminding her to do so once in
a while.

Guess whose '200 crashed last month.  Now I have to learn the
internals of the appointment book format.



BTW, to answer my original question, the problem with adbload
and other appointment book database apps for the '200, seems to
be that the '200 keeps all of the appointments threaded in
a doubly-linked list, and is incapable of recovering if the
linked list gets corrupted.  I'm currently working an some
patches to adbload which will rebuild the links list before
writing out the database.  I'll keep everybody posted.

        -ed falk

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Hi gang! I spoke with author of Stereo Shell this evening and *may* have
some happy results to report in the near future. I'll keep everyone =
posted!

Jeff

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In a message dated 7/8/99 9:44:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU writes:

> Roger
>  I believe that I may have the original OnTime disk if you can give me this
>  weekend to try and locate it. I also received it as a 'freebie" when it
> first
>  came out frtom Campbell Systems.
>  tony Guzewicz

Hi, Tony!  I've temporarily lost track of the message posted by the fella who
was looking for it.  By the time you find your disk, I'll probably have it.
Didn't ZDNET at one time (before the WWW) make a free download available?

-roger-

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In a message dated 7/8/99 11:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jeffj@SCOTT.NET
writes:

> Well, I don't really know how to interpret the NY Times article :-/ The
>  reporter definately misquoted me, but got the general point across. It's
>  kinda cool being referred to as an Elvis fan, since Elvis isn't dead, it
>  means the LX will live on for decades.
>
I'm going to look for some matching paint and change the name of my palmtop
to the 200LVS in honor of The King.  Don't fret over the misquote, however
mangled it may have been.  You came across as a very colorful Southern
sheriff.  Someone in Hollywood is already writing the pilot for the series.
You're going to be rich.

-roger-

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:34:25 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Feinmanr@AOL.COM
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NY Times article, deadline 2:00 Eastern
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Whoops!  'Fraid my slip is showing.  Sorry all for that mistake.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:38:47 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      HP200LX Appt Book restore?
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>,
          Jonathan Teich <jteich@MEDIAONE.NET>
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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> No need to make people who are having
> to cope with the loss of loved data feel worse by brutally shredding =
them
> in public

You are right, David.  I apologize to Jonathan Teich.


Stan

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:15:59 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Feinmanr@AOL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: Re: Excessive postings and more...
Comments: To: david@hplx.net
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In a message dated 7/8/99 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> And I hate reading messages with quotes from an unidentified
>  source and then having to search backwards to find the right message you
>  were responding to.

The "art" of quoting seems to vary with the experience of the user, and from
one software package to another.  Some make it easy to extract specific
portions for purposes of a reply, some don't, but it's almost always possible
to edit the quote down to essentials.  I agree that we should try to limit
quotes to only what is necessary, however, I suspect that the ultimate answer
to this occasional inconvenience lies in the list software itself (I'm being
general here, not specific to HPLX.NET), IOW, making it easier to track
messages, replies, and overall threads by message number (and these messages
are numbered).  At present, this is not a technique that seems to be readily
available or widely known.

-roger-

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:26:02 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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"Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> wrote:

> Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems, Model
> 1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or driver disks

I am quite sure it will work fine in the 200LX.  The only
driver you need is already in the ROM.  Just put the following
line in your AUTOEXEC.BAT:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

Or you can download LXCIC which is a user-written substitute
for CIC100.


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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:34:37 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Simon Lee <audio@IOHK.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Simon Lee <audio@IOHK.COM>
Organization: Audiotronics Co., HK
Subject:      Re: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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Might I know could this driver works for Megahertz 28.8 also?


thanks in advance,


Simon
audio@iohk.com

Audiotronics Co., HK
Western Electric authorised dealer in HongKong.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: 1999=A6~7=A4=EB9=A4=E9 AM 09:26
Subject: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem


> "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> wrote:
>
> > Today at a computer show I saw some Magahertz XJACK 14.4k modems, Mod=
el
> > 1144, for $20.  There were no instructions, software, or driver disks
>
> I am quite sure it will work fine in the 200LX.  The only
> driver you need is already in the ROM.  Just put the following
> line in your AUTOEXEC.BAT:
>
> d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
>
> Or you can download LXCIC which is a user-written substitute
> for CIC100.
>
>
> Stan
>
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>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:00:31 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
Subject:      Seeking Windows 3.0
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Any ideas where to land a copy of Windows 3.0?  Anyone have a copy they'd
like to sell?

-Calvin

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:03:19 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Feinmanr@AOL.COM
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop?
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I've wondered from time-to-time why it is that IBM and Lotus never stepped
into the handheld computer market after it became apparent that HP did not
intend to upgrade the 200LX.  Doesn't it seem that there would be a natural
synergy between hardware and software development in this parent/subsidiary
relationship?  Surely, it must have occurred to them that if Microsoft and
its partners planned to make the WinCE handhelds little more than accessories
to the MS-Office desktop, then IBM's and Lotus' investment in the Notes
environment might warrant protective countermeasures, e.g., building tight
integration with Notes into a handheld unit.  Besides 1-2-3 and cc:Mail, most
of our LX PIM apps are vaguely descended from Lotus Metro, so there is
certainly a well of experience there.  And if they were to mount a
competitive product, they could easily outclass the WinCE bunch by providing
for compatibility with both DOS and WIndows apps.

Anybody have any insight into why they never tackled this area?

-roger-

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:29:24 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Re: NY Times Article
Comments: To: Feinmanr@AOL.COM
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:30:14 EDT, Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> wrote:

> You came across as a very colorful Southern
> sheriff.

I sincerely hope that you don't think I'm like Roscoe P. Coltrane from =
the
Dukes of Hazzard..... I'm actually more like Bill Gillespie from In the =
Heat
of the Night <g>.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:30:43 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX Appt Book restore?
Comments: To: Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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> BTW, to answer my original question, the problem with adbload
> and other appointment book database apps for the '200, seems to
> be that the '200 keeps all of the appointments threaded in
> a doubly-linked list, and is incapable of recovering if the
> linked list gets corrupted.  I'm currently working an some
> patches to adbload which will rebuild the links list before
> writing out the database.  I'll keep everybody posted.


That would be great - been waiting for a 200 upgrade to that program for
a while now.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:30:45 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: NY Times Article
Comments: To: Feinmanr@AOL.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> I'm going to look for some matching paint and change the name of my palmtop
> to the 200LVS in honor of The King.  Don't fret over the misquote, however
> mangled it may have been.  You came across as a very colorful Southern
> sheriff.  Someone in Hollywood is already writing the pilot for the series.
> You're going to be rich.

Rosie O'Donnell is going to play his secretary!

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:30:48 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Magahertz XJACK 14.4k Modem
Comments: To: Simon Lee <audio@IOHK.COM>
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> Might I know could this driver works for Megahertz 28.8 also?
>
> thanks in advance,

It should IF the power specs of the modem work - most pcmcia modems will
work with the built-in cic100 program and probably the 3rd party
software.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:40:50 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Re: NY Times Article
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On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:30:45 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NE=
T> wrote:

> Rosie O'Donnell is going to play his secretary!

Yup, and the person playing me will promptly drag her along to all the =
NRA
conventions that he attends, where she will be ridiculed into a state of
frustration and has to be placed into an asylum and all she can mutter is =
"I
was wrong..." <g>. The Hollywood set will not have a bunch of WYSE VT-100
dumb terminals but be equipped with networked 200 & 1000LX's.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:50:18 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXB/batch questions

I wrote:
> You say there should be more open source software, but you
> haven't released any source since adbio ...

Please ignore the above paragraph from my previous message, as it is
patently wrong (My apologies, Andreas, I don't know what I was thinking
when I wrote that paragraph).

Andreas has definitely released a number of other open source freeware
tools since adbio (in fact, he's probably the most prolific open
source developer for the HP200LX).

One example is LX Tools - an excellent example of open source freeware
that Andreas wrote and released to the great benefit of the palmtop
community, and which has spawned a number of derivative tools, and
which will never become obsolete because it is open source and can be
ported or modified as the world changes.

-- Rod Whitby - rwhitby@hplx.net <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net> --

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:25:00 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Stereo Shell.... I got it <g>!!!
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:46:22 -0500, "Emery Wooten" <ewooten@ebicom.net> =
wrote:

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Emery Wooten" <ewooten@ebicom.net>
To: "Jeff Johns" <jeffj@scott.net>
Subject: Re: Stereo Shell Thanks!
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:46:22 -0500

Jeff,
        The registered version of StS is attached.  Please don't post =
this
publicly but feel free to use it and share it with your friends.

=3D=3D=3D Emery Wooten  KC5LIO =3D=3D=3D

PS:  My brother-in-law, Glenn Taylor, who frequently flies into Birmingham
and drives here, says you owe him one speeding ticket warning...  <grin>



--- end of forwarded message ---


Well gang Mr. Wooten was kind enough to send me a registered version as =
he
told me he would during our phone conversation this evening. During the
phone call this evening he told me that he would not release the source =
code
and that he hasn't done any developement work in quite some time. I will
honor Mr. Wooten's request not to post the file anywhere in public, but =
if
you want a copy, please email me and I'll be more than happy to send it =
to
you as per his wishes to share it with our little palmtop community. I do
think that if you request a copy and I email it to you that it would be a
nice gesture on our part to email Mr. Wooten at ewooten@ebicom.net and =
thank
him for being generous enough to allow us to have this software.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:24:10 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, rtmcbrid@SFU.CA
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ryan McBride <rtmcbrid@SFU.CA>
Subject:      New Palmtop Browser (was: HV - once again...)
Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net
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>How about staying right here ad discuss here, so the rest of
>us can peek in and provide input? If you are doing it for the
>community, it would be good to hear its voice.

Certainly. I wasn't trying to create closed development, but only to minimize
the volume of messages on the list. (Judging from the overwhelming response I
had from interested programmers, this will not be a concern :-) I'll be
drafting an outline proposal this weekend and I will post it on Monday...

-Ryan

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:04:08 +0800
Reply-To:     Roger Shea <rogerswn@ctimail.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Stereo Shell.... I got it <g>!!!
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Hi, Jeff
What's the advantage of this program compare to the NC and DOS shell?

Thanks

Roger S.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:56:07 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
Organization: Orion Enterprises
Subject:      The Great Demise :-(
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As I have read the posts from those searching for alternatives to the
200LX and from those seeking to campaign HP to change I have thought
about it and concluded the following:

- HP isn't going to bring the 200LX back.  Their collective mind has
been taken over by Micro$oft and they are not the company that they used
to be.  As we say goodbye to the 200LX, we also bid farewell to the
venerable old Hewlett-Packard Company.  Get your backup machine ASAP!

- Presently, there is no replacement for the 200LX.  We are the last of
a dying breed.  If we are seeking an alternative, perhaps we should look
in the direction of the PalmPilot and a good notebook computer
(especially now, with the demise of the Toshiba Libretto, also).

- Linux has a long way to go in order to be a viable, mainstream
alternative to DOS/Windows/etc.  It is just too UNusable.  The command
line commands don't make much sense and the GUIs are still some what
primitive.  Solaris has possibilities, but they both lack widespread
hardware and software support.  People used to say that DOS was too hard
to use.  DOS is easy, Linux is hard to use!  As much as I hate M$, I
have to give them credit for giving DOS and Windows a consistent user
interface, and making it easier to use than many other OS's.  I would
not bother with a Linux/Unix-based palmtop.

So, those are my thoughts on the subject(s).  Please keep in mind that I
may be wrong, and I really don't care.  I am just getting tired of the
computer industry and it's all-too-constant change.  I'm tired of lies,
greed, marketing hype and lawsuits.  Remember, folks, it's just a
computer, a tool.  You can't take it with you.  To paraphrase Don
Henley: There are no hearses with luggage racks.

Regards,
Richard Smith
PS: Now donning flame-proof suit.  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:06:06 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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From:         "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
Organization: Orion Enterprises
Subject:      Re: The Great Demise :-(
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BTW: My deepest gratitude to those who make the 200LX experience and the
worldwide 200LX community the joy that it is: HP (ironic), the people at
Thaddeus Computing, Time2Tech, hplx.net, palmtop.net and palmtop.com,
HPLX List members and administrators, and HP200LX list members and
friends worldwide.

It's amazing what a little electronic tool can do. <g>  Wow.  Now THAT'S
a good product: one that can bring people together with no regard for
their differences.

Thank you, very much.

Richard Smith

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:10:44 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, dcollins@TRENDX.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Browser (was: HV - once again...)
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I would think that news.hplx.net:hp200.programmers would be a more appropriate
forum.  The list here tends to get off topic quickly.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
>How about staying right here ad discuss here, so the rest of
>us can peek in and provide input? If you are doing it for the
>community, it would be good to hear its voice.

Certainly. I wasn't trying to create closed development, but only to minimize
the volume of messages on the list. (Judging from the overwhelming response I
had from interested programmers, this will not be a concern :-) I'll be
drafting an outline proposal this weekend and I will post it on Monday...

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A scaled down version of OS2 would be a far better alternative to WinCE IMHO.

Don.


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...Besides 1-2-3 and cc:Mail, most
of our LX PIM apps are vaguely descended from Lotus Metro, so there is
certainly a well of experience there.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:14:56 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 PCMCIA modem review's anyone know of such a page?

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:07:44 +0100
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              Etienne Lemaire <STELEM@IBM.NET>
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Comments: To: sputnik@voicenet.com

Possibly this:
poweconsumption of various PCMCIA modems:
http://www.cewindows.net/pccrdpwr.htm

It's an old note already: HTH
Etienne Lemaire

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

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Message text written by Jeff Johns
>Hi gang! I spoke with author of Stereo Shell this evening and *may* have=

some happy results to report in the near future. I'll keep everyone poste=
d!
<

Attaway to go, Jeff.  I suspected that two southern gentlemen could reach=

agreement faster than I could.  I saw your later post about sending you
email for a personally transmitted copy of the registered version. (I
already have that.) =


 StS has many of the features of Norton Commander, Volkov Cmdr, DosShell,=

Xtree, etc., but the size (40K Dieted) is far less than any other program=

of this genre. It's fast and bullet proof.   Emery Wooten is both a
gentleman and a master of the art of assembly programming.  I can
understand his not wanting to release the code. It's all assembler. I'd
hate to have to answer questions about assembler code I wrote five years
ago.

 For those who have never used StS, I'd recommend trying the unregistered=

version on the SUPER site before dashing off an email. Like any file
manager program, it takes some getting used to. It also needs to be
configured for colors and file associations with PKZip, LHA, PalEdit, etc=

before it will work properly.  Hal has the unregistered version configure=
d
properly on his Super Software Carousel CD for those who want a
pre-installed version. =


BTW: StS doesn't work well under Win98. I could get it to run and could
change the colors, but found that it balked at long filenames and couldn'=
t
handle the number of bytes remaining on large disks.  It works well on th=
e
LX. =


.ed.

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Selling email addresses

Hi Everyone

Just wanted to let everyone know that someone is grabbing email addresses and
selling them. It happened to me and I'm pretty sure it was from a mailing list
since they are the only places I display my email address. I don't know if Al can
protect the HPLX mailing list from a sleeze like that but just thought I'd send a
warning just in case. I narrowed it down to either my ISP (they have better
not!!!), the HPLX list, or the Arachne list. I don't do news groups besides the
hplx.net ones so I don't think they got it from there.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:28:46 +0800
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>Will check with my friend how you turn off EFR..I think it was something
>like this :#3370 and then "Send"..but do not try anything..I do not
>want the blame for nuking your phone..will get back to you soon
>probably next week..you should find this on the web too I think this
>url should work and provide you with the info www.8810.com


For your Nokia phone:
To turn off EFR, it was #3370# then press "Send", it will restart the phone.
To turn on EFR, it was *3370# then press "Send".

Regards
JHChin

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:28:20 -0400
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Hey all -

Got my pin for Freeway and successfully downloaded mail from palmtop.com using
Freeway. I found the easiest way was to change the "Manual Dial" Option in the
connection screen to "Yes" and dial that way - it is kind of a pain.

Just one more free email method for HPLX!

Brian McIlvaine

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:19:24 -0400
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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 08:58:21 -0400 (EDT)

09h54m59s ago ...
On Thu,  8 Jul 1999, Roger Feinman wrote:

> I've wondered from time-to-time why it is that IBM and Lotus never =
stepped
> into the handheld computer market after it became apparent that HP did =
not
> intend to upgrade the 200LX.
<snip>
> And if they were to mount a
> competitive product, they could easily outclass the WinCE bunch by =
providing
> for compatibility with both DOS and WIndows apps.
>
> Anybody have any insight into why they never tackled this area?

Think paranoid! (My motto)  IBM licenses Windhose from Micro$haft.  If
they want to continue to use the M$ OS, they have to pretty much kiss
Big Bill's uhh... "anatomy".  Of course an IBM-Lotus product could
easily outclass wince (what doesn't?).  That's why M$ won't even think
of allowing licensees to compete with 'em.

Being a proud paranoid, I'm pretty sure that the 200LX wasn't killed
off by slumping sales, but on orders from Micro$haft.

8->  Remember, even paranoids have REAL enemies.  Ours is in Redmond
WA.  8->

Later


-Peniel
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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 09:10:03 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Jeff-

I'd love to have a copy of the registered STS, if you could send it.

Thanks


-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:46:47 -0400
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Subject:      FLUFF: Re:      Re: Freecell
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I find it hard to believe the number of combinations of 52 cards
is "inconceivable" - big, yes, but not "incapable of neing
conceived of." It has been a long time since I did any
math like this, but I think the formula would look like:

52x51x50x49x48x....3x2x1= # of combinations

(isn't that 52! (factorial))

I wasn't 11 years old when I last did this type of math ;¬),
but I think my math is "close" - but I haven't taken into
account the impact of plaxement of the cards, AFAIK.

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Freecell


Russel Brooks wrote:

>> How many possible combinations of games are there in Freecell?
>
>I think the different combinations of a 52 card deck shuffle is
>up in the billions.

"Up in the billions" is short by a few dozen orders of magnitude. Even
considering that each shuffle will yield many thousands of FreeCell
games that are almost just alike, the number is still inconcievable.

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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That's what, $1.20/KB - that may not ecven cover ONE
HPLX-Digest ! ;¬(

Ken
khansen@njcc/com

(This is the same service that the Palm VII wireless device uses)

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From: Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM>
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Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 7 Jul 1999 - Special issue


<snip>
>He said the network it's on (Bell South) covers 90% of the U.S.
>population, and works very well in fringe cell phone areas. It even has
>encryption, and for only $30.00 a month! (25,000 characters per month)

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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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This Oreilly book is available online (for free) at the Oreilly web
site, URL not available, sorry.

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: Free-Ware,OpenSourceWare, & TemptWare. FLUFF-LONG


>   I think a quick reading of a new book, "Open Sources,Voices from the
>Open Source Revolution" edited by Chris DiBona, Sam Ockman & Mark Sloan,
>released  January, l999 by O"Reilly will shed more light and less heat on
>these topics. Particularly relevant to software developers would be the
>article "Open Source as a Business Strategy",by Brian Behlendorf.
>   However, there is also the cautionary tale of Troll Tech, the Qt
>X-window GUI library and the GNOME GUI project for Linux. My

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:37:12 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I've got a copy under a Zenith label you can have for $5 plus $5 shipping.
They are on 5-1/4 disks.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Calvin Ledford wrote:

> Any ideas where to land a copy of Windows 3.0?  Anyone have a copy they'd
> like to sell?
>
> -Calvin
>
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Subject:      /Rant/ HP really is slimy!!!! /Rant/

I have spent quite a few months looking for CE replacements to programs that I use on the
200LX. Just out of curiousity. I always look to see if there is a CE version. Nothing!!!
Nada!!! Silch!!! Are they considering people that use more than a phone book or any of
the built-in stuff? Are they going to make sure loyal HP customers/ex-200LX'ers have the
software they need? I don't think so. Move to another HP product? Hell no!!! They'll
probably discontinue that too!! And the worst of it is they are recommending a bloated
crappy operating system as a replacement, in a huge case I can't even put in my pocket,
with an unusable keyboard. Not something better, something worse. Instead of improving on
the best and making it even better then discontinuing they are trying to pass off junk!!!
They really suck. AND the 680 only gets about 5 hours, 5!! Real world. What do they think
I'm going to do? Carry around another battery pack? Where am I going to put it? I know
where they can put it!!! AA's would probably slip right in there<g>. HP has really
changed. They used to improve on what they made. My deskjet is alot better than a
thinkjet. My omnibook was great--I loved that pop-out mouse. Every HP calculator I've
used was wonderful. Now they suck and try to pass off junk. /sarcastic tone/ Oh but the
CE junk things have pretty little color screens and play music now. Whoop-de-do!!! If I
wanted color I'd use a desktop. If I wanted music I'd play it on the 200. Nothing about
these CE things is any better than the 200, in fact, they fail just about every time. Do
they search my phone book file faster than my 200? I don't think so. Is it easier to
enter numbers? Nope. Are they more convient to carry around? Once again, no. Can I
backsolve? Na-uh. CAN I CATALOG INFORMATION EASIER? Man, they fail.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:26:07 +0000
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1999-07-09-11:46:47 Ken Hansen:
> I find it hard to believe the number of combinations of 52 cards
> is "inconceivable" - big, yes, but not "incapable of neing
> conceived of." It has been a long time since I did any
> math like this, but I think the formula would look like:
>
> 52x51x50x49x48x....3x2x1= # of combinations
>
> (isn't that 52! (factorial))

I'd say yup, looks a lot like 52! to me....

Inconceivable is of course a matter of opinion, or the limberness of
individuals' conceivers, or whatever. I may have screwed up somewhere, but:

; perl -MMath::BigInt -le '$i=Math::BigInt->new('2');$i*=$_ for 3..52;
> print $i;$i=Math::BigInt->new('2');$i**=128;print $i'
+80658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824000000000000
+340282366920938463463374607431768211456
;

Now 2**128, which is ludicrously much smaller than 52! (unless I've erred) is
in _my_ opinion an inconceivably big number: I feel perfectly happy e.g.
assuming that cryptographically strong 128-bit keys are collision-free; this
makes possible some sexy distributed algorithms. I figure the chance of a
whole raft of cosmic rays ganging up and reprogramming a chunk of RAM to
introduce a hole in my program are better than a 1-in-2**128 hash collision
(assuming always a really spiffy good hash). If the cards come out in order,
someone stacked the deck. Or the PRNG broke. You don't fair-shuffle to a
sorted deck, at at 1-in-52!:-). It's inconceivable.

-Bennett

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:06:53 -0400
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I've been giving the hardware design for a 200 replacement some thought
lately, and what I keep running into is the prohibitive cost of tooling up a
case to handle a screen, keyboard, etc.

So, here is my proposal for a solution. Comments and refinements are
welcome.

Processor Core: Vadem VG230 ($50 - my guess, they don't say on the web site)

This is a low power NEC V50 processor (80186 clone) with Vadem's own PCMCIA
and peripherals on a single chip. It runs at 16MHz, but due to tuning of
instructions actually runs about 10x as fast as the standard HP200
processor. The chip has all the standard peripherals, including support for
1 PCMCIA slot and a vga compatible display.

OS and Programs: ($25)

License DOS from Datalight or Caldera. Advantage of Datalight is that they
have a Win3.x clone OS that can ride on top of their DOS. With the use of a
custom bootloader and some software, you could create your own mix of apps
that get put into ROM. But, they would be copied to RAM for execution, just
like in standard DOS.

Memory: (what's the going price for a RAM module these days + $25 for flash)

64MB RAM / sufficient Flash for DOS and built in apps (say 2MB?) The ram
module could be a DIMM or SIMM, so that you can put whatever you want into
the slot.

Battery: ($ up to you)

2 or 4 or 6 AA's ?? How much space are you willing to live with for
lifetime. No recharger built in. Wall wart input.

Display: ($105 in small quantity for the mono)

Kopin 320x240 Mono (or Color) CGA backlit display. This is a
"hold-to-the-eye" type display that draws only 50mW.

Keyboard/Mouse: (varies wildly)

Support for USB keyboard and mouse. Interesting technologies include the 12
key "chord" keyboard. Without some kind of compromise here, we're looking at
a custom design to get it small and that means big tooling dollars,
unfortunately.

IR:

Does anybody really use this?

Packaging: ($150 - guesstimate including housings, connectors, motherboard,
wall wart and cables)

Black box with connectors for display (20 pin), PCMCIA, USB, DC power, and
trap door for battery. Belt clip integrated. Probably half the size of the
keyboard part of the 200. The Kopin display ends up like a little tube with
eyepiece and focussing ring. It could probably be made to attach to existing
glasses (or just frames) to make for hands free operation.

If necessary, or desireable, serial and parallel ports, too. Maybe even an
IDE "port". But there's a tradeoff between size and number of ports. How
about a docking station? It could be made out of metal since weight is not
an issue, which would keep the initial cost pretty low.

-------------

So, in total, you're looking at $300. Add 20% because I probably forgot
something. Double it to cover capital (tooling) and development costs and to
eventually make some money from this and you're looking at $699 plus
battery, RAM and input device.

How about it? Any orders :-)

rick

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:07:42 -0500
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Tom,
Do you know where to download the complete Topics for use with Hisword? I
couldn't seem to find it on your site or at the Online Bible Site.

Thanks,
Steve

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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Stereo Shell.... I got it <g>!!!
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Hi Jeff-

Got it!  Thanks.


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Hi All:

   I haven't received any survey responces for a few days now, so here
   is the tabulation to date(I will send comments in other messages):

Total # responces:  40

Use HV?             36

Use HV to Browse?   25

< 1/week?           12

> 1/week, < 1/day?  11

> 1/day?            12

Want HV updated?    35

Pay < $20?          5

Pay > $20, < $40?   13

Pay > $40?          17

Use EMS?            33



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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 11:41:18 -0500 (EST)

***

I would use a new HV more that the current version. Most of the time I
have/want to browse the web I start my desktop and do it there.
If I don't need this anymore, I'd start WWW/LX, download my email and
don't logoff, but immediately switch to HV and browse.

***

I use my 800CT Omnibook for most web browsing...the LX is used just
for viewing stored HTML documentation.  I have WWW/LX, (version 1.x)
but found the general processing and downloading speed too slow in
comparison with my Omnibook (obviously).  If the LX were my sole
means of web access, I'd consider  upgrading WWW/LX, but as it is not
my primary web access, I do not foresee upgrading a feature I won't
use.

***

I find HV usefull in viewing the few webpages I download via HTGET.  I
dont think that a full featured HV is worth the $ or disk space.  All
to often we (me included) ask for things we really dont need and end
up not using regulary.  The palmtop display + current web page
formats are just not compatable for casual browsing.

Personaly I think a companion product, like HTGET, is the way to go.
An application that will automate downloading html docs.

***

I have a 3MB 200LX (yes, 3, ask if you want.) - so I'm relatively
constrained with regards to EMS.  Every LX product should be
_very_  memory conservative!

***

Full frames support is probably impractical on a 640 x 200 screen.
Same for tables.  Would be nice, but not vital.

What we need most is the ability to connect to the increasing number of
brain-dead web hosts that make smart-ass remarks about "old browsers".
Unfortunately, some useful web sites reside on the HV-hostile hosts.

There's no need for the new browser to fit on 1MB machines.  I think
most folks who will use a palmtop browser are also "power users" with
extra memory and double speed units.  If it needs 1MB+ of EMS, that's
fine.

It doesn't need to recognize all the new tags (certainly not M$
non-standard stuff).  Perhaps the <font size=3D  > tag would be useful.

***

The only thing keeping me from buying WWW/LX for use with the current
version of HV is the lack of SSL support; I'd need that in order to get
into my brokerage account!

***

HV is a great product, but its time for an ungrade

***

     I pretty much like HV as it is.  That is, I use it only for
viewing HTML documentation provided for various
hardware/software tools I use. I do use it to check my own HTML for
web pages I create but I'm an odd duck in that I prefer and use
text-only web pages.  When I do need to "surf" with my 200lx, I use a
shell account and Lynx.  Keeps valuable memory on my stock HP
free.  I say thanks for an already great product and don't knock
yourself out, Andreas, creating a new product with a VERY slim profit
margin      (who are we kidding - it would be a loss!).

***

How about a text only version of DOS Lynx that can run with WWW/LX.
Forget graphics.

***

I have Pentium machines at home and at the office which I use for
WebWork. Other than conecting to AOL to get mail, I have never been
interested in webbing with the 200LX, even though mine is 2x & 32M.
Now that I have an 800CT for travel, I don't use the LX modem at
all.

But I do use my LX a ton.  Its always with me.  Every meeting, and
every shopping trip.  By PC Card I move data effortlessly among
computers.  (The card in my LX will also download a Word file at the
office, transfer to the CT, where I can edit it in WordPerfect 9 on
the road or at home, and then take it back to the office.)

So no.  I don't need HVPro, thank you.  HTML pages that I want to keep
on the LX I strip of tags & save as .txt.

***

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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 11:42:25 -0500 (EST)

***

   Mostly would use when traveling.

***

As more and more HPC and PPC units become web enabled
Web pages will have to be customised to suit these smaller
displays, A HP200 viewer can ride the coat tails of this seachange

***

Outstanding product!!!!!!!!!!! Would pay up to $100

***

All these things would be great to have on the palmtop.  That said, I
feel that  Andreas is a magician when it comes to programing on the
Palmtop.  My gut feel  is that is not worth the hrs. it would take to
do it, but I am sure he is the  best judge of that.

***

  Web is growing for every day and since I always have my 200LX with
me,   I would love to be able to surf pages which I currently can't-
due to   so many fancy stuff.

***

    I would gladly pay over $40.00 for the ability to view these
new web pages that contain frames and other stuff that keeps me
from retreiving the info I am seeking.  I am most likely pushing
my luck, but I also wish HV had the ability to print documents.
My current method of printing HTML docs from my LX is slow.  I
save the doc, then use htmstrip to strip the coded stuff, and then
print it.  Don't care about all the fancy graphics, would just
like to get to the text, or the files I would be searching for.

***

I use my 200LX as my exclusive computer when traveling, so the ability
to surf the web is very important, if intermittent. It's very
frustrating to be prevented from accessing web sites because of an
inadequacy in the browser. I would gladly pay for an upgrade.

***

   HV is a real help. I often download documents in html and later
read them on my HP. I also use it to surf the web from time to time.
It is considirable faster than on  my 486 windowsmachine I am willing
to pay in advance right now for a "HV+". But if someone is going to
spend alot of time on a HV+ then I would like to know what is being
missed. Will we miss some other great aplication that is not being
developed due to lack of time?

***

    IMHO, HP200LX is quickly going to became a useless device, if
I'll lose also the capability to browse the web wherever I want
to, well, this means that it's time for me to migrate to the
hateful CE.

***

If HV is maxed out, another option would be to have different versions
of HV with a different set of features. This way a user could use the
version of HV that fits his/her needs the most.

***

I currently use HV only for viewing HTML docs on the 200, not
for surfing, but I hope to upgrade my 200 soon, and then the
ability to use HV in conjunction with my PCMCIA modem is a
valuable tool. It would be something I'd buy, but not use very
often - say twice a month in emergencies when I couldn't get to
a desktop browser. If I anticipated using it more, I'd be
prepared to pay more.

***

   It is extremely convenient to download from S.U.P.E.R.
and other DOS software sites directly into the palmtop.

***

How about a text only version of DOS Lynx that can run with WWW/LX.
Forget graphics.

A text-only version would be fine, I do not care about graphics.
Anything making the browsed pages legible is fine. The rest is
cosmetics. I hope that recent blows to the 100/200 LX platform is not
fatal. Some people do use their palmtops for work that does not fit
with M$ ideas how work is done or what instruments are the best to do
it.

***

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:04:57 -0500
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On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 10:07:42AM -0500, Steve Dowell wrote:
> Tom,
> Do you know where to download the complete Topics for use with Hisword? I
> couldn't seem to find it on your site or at the Online Bible Site.

Here's a couple of places to look.  The first appears to be the best bet.  The second seems to now deal primarily with the latest Windows version (v8), which uses a different format for the topics, etc.

http://ccel.wheaton.edu/olb/win/olb/bible/
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8373/

If neither of those work, let me know and I'll zip up what you need from my CD-ROM.

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From:  fred.fokks@abcgmx.de (Fred Fokks)  07/08/99 11:11 am
To:


Hi,

I would like to print data from the OmniGo 700LX
(Palmtop, DOS 5.0) to the printer HP Deskjet 340 using
the IrDA (infrared) interface. Data should be sent  from
a program, written in VBDOS 1.0 (Visual Basic for DOS).

Via cable connection from COM1: to Centronics interface,
printing works fine using the following lines:

OPEN "COM1:9600,N,8,1,ASC,LF,CS0,DS0" FOR OUTPUT AS #1
   PRINT #1, "Hello World"
CLOSE #1

Printing via IrDA interface from the built-in programs (for
example "memo") works, too. So, the drivers seems to be
installed correctly.

But when I try to print data from the VBDOS-Program using
the IrDA interface, nothing happens at the printer, although
the data transmission seems to be ok from the OmniGo
point of view.

Tried different parameters, but nothing works.
Has anybody an idea?

Thx in advance,
Fred.

(Please remove antispam-abc from e-mail address)

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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

My apologies for posting not just one, but two messages for Jeff to the
whole list.  Hmmm - maybe M$ has planted a virus in my brain to confuse
me so I'll buy their wince toys <g>

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Hi Jeff-

Can you send me a cop   of StS, please.
Thanks !

Luis Prado

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I don't have the original message to refer to, but I thought the
question was about the possibility of using a program to invert the
screen (rather than pressing on+/), and possibly including a call to
that program in batch files.  I have such a program if you are
interested, which allows you to specify a video mode on the command
line.

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** Reply to note from Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> 07/09/99 11:06am -0400


> I've been giving the hardware design for a 200 replacement some thought
> lately, and what I keep running into is the prohibitive cost of tooling up a
> case to handle a screen, keyboard, etc.
>

Have you looked at predesigned clamshell enclosures? There are some companies that
will also retool them for a small setup fee and will handle smaller orders if need
be for a larger setup fee. The ones I've seem are relatively inexpensive 10-20
dollars each. They usually go about 7 inches long.

John

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But now you get into design/build of a keyboard that must go inside this
thing. That's one of the things I was trying to avoid. Also, 7 inches is CE
sized, and I get the feeling that's too big.

Have you got a mfg name in mind? I know of several semi-custom places
(that's how I was planning on doing the shell for my proposed unit), but I
haven't seen a clamshell design in the catalogs.

rick

>
> > I've been giving the hardware design for a 200 replacement some thought
> > lately, and what I keep running into is the prohibitive cost of tooling
up a
> > case to handle a screen, keyboard, etc.
> >
>
> Have you looked at predesigned clamshell enclosures? There are some
companies that
> will also retool them for a small setup fee and will handle smaller orders
if need
> be for a larger setup fee. The ones I've seem are relatively inexpensive
10-20
> dollars each. They usually go about 7 inches long.
>
> John
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>Think paranoid! (My motto)  IBM licenses Windhose from Micro$haft.


Also, IBM resells Palms under the IBM Workpad name.

Alan

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Here's the O'Rielly site: www.orielly.com or www.ora.com

Here's the free on-line book URL: =20
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/toc.html

Nicholas Argyros
Research & Evaluation Team
473-0877

>>> Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> 07/09 8:31 AM >>>
This Oreilly book is available online (for free) at the Oreilly web
site, URL not available, sorry.

Ken
khansen@njcc.com=20

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: Free-Ware,OpenSourceWare, & TemptWare. FLUFF-LONG


>   I think a quick reading of a new book, "Open Sources,Voices from the
>Open Source Revolution" edited by Chris DiBona, Sam Ockman & Mark Sloan,
>released  January, l999 by O"Reilly will shed more light and less heat on
>these topics. Particularly relevant to software developers would be the
>article "Open Source as a Business Strategy",by Brian Behlendorf.
>   However, there is also the cautionary tale of Troll Tech, the Qt
>X-window GUI library and the GNOME GUI project for Linux. My

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Sorry for the name misspelling.  corrected below:
Here's the O'Reilly site: www.oreilly.com or www.ora.com

Here's the free on-line book URL: =20
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/toc.html

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From: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop?


>>Think paranoid! (My motto)  IBM licenses Windhose from Micro$haft.
>
>
>Also, IBM resells Palms under the IBM Workpad name.

Yep!  IBM has no love for the folks in Redmond, but like everyone else they
are in it for the money, which isnt necessarily a bad thing.  I doubt you
will see
a DOS/Windows palmtop from IBM unless you count the PC110 from japan
which is an excellent entry except for battery life, its more likely you
will continue
to see subnotebook like the 240.

As for Lotus driving something, they are not nearly in as powerful a
position
as they once were.  When the 200lx was released it was sold as 'Lotus' in
your
pocket because Lotus 1-2-3 was really driving the industry as the then
'killer' app,
but no its just another spreadsheet with Excel having the lions share of the
market.  Actually WinCE would do better if they tried to sell it as Excel in
your
pocket, more business folks would understand it instead of the whole 'WinCE'
thing.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Yes, PacTec. They have no tooling charges plus a ten dollar setup for small runs
if you use one of their enclosures. And they do small runs of less than a hundred
easily. 7 inches is long but only about 1/2 inch longer? The nice thing is the
keyboard could be made to fit like the lcd, everything could fit inside since the
orginal is smaller. Might need to add a hinge though. I looked closely but
couldn't tell if they have one or if what they do have would work. But they might
be less on a custom enclosure once the molds or stamps are made, if they expect a
lot of repeat business. Do you know if the HP case is poured?
How much could it possibly cost to make a couple of molds though<g>. Especially
with a couple good samples to go by? They could just copy the HP case.

** Reply to note from Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> 07/09/99  1:51pm -0400

> But now you get into design/build of a keyboard that must go inside this
> thing. That's one of the things I was trying to avoid. Also, 7 inches is CE
> sized, and I get the feeling that's too big.
>
> Have you got a mfg name in mind? I know of several semi-custom places
> (that's how I was planning on doing the shell for my proposed unit), but I
> haven't seen a clamshell design in the catalogs.
>
> rick
>
> >
> > > I've been giving the hardware design for a 200 replacement some thought
> > > lately, and what I keep running into is the prohibitive cost of tooling
> up a
> > > case to handle a screen, keyboard, etc.
> > >
> >
> > Have you looked at predesigned clamshell enclosures? There are some
> companies that
> > will also retool them for a small setup fee and will handle smaller orders
> if need
> > be for a larger setup fee. The ones I've seem are relatively inexpensive
> 10-20
> > dollars each. They usually go about 7 inches long.
> >
> > John
> >
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At 02:32 PM 7/8/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I need to find a recent Microsoft ad, and am hoping someone remembers
>seeing it.

Yesterday I asked if anyone saw a recent ad which Microsoft ran.

As no one responded, I have to appeal to your sense of fair play <g>

I am not intersted in the Microsoft product (knowing how many of you feel
about Microsoft). I am interested in tweaking AT&T's nose, as they ripped
off the picture style and content in their ad for their web site.  I have a
reporter who writes about advertising intersted in pursuing the story, if I
can direct him to the Microsoft ad.

I'm hoping that, now that my true motive is known, someone will actually
look for the ad. If anyone has recent WIRED, or PC magazines (older than
the July issues), please check them for me.

TIA

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> Fri,  9 Jul 1999 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT)
> My apologies for posting not just one, but two messages for Jeff to the
> whole list.  Hmmm - maybe M$ has planted a virus in my brain to confuse
> me so I'll buy their wince toys <g>
>

Not another Windoze bug<g>.

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> lot of repeat business. Do you know if the HP case is poured?
> How much could it possibly cost to make a couple of molds though<g>.
Especially
> with a couple good samples to go by? They could just copy the HP case.
>

$50K in hard steel, somewhat less in aluminum for a complete custom tool, at
least. I haven't looked inside, so I'm not sure of the detail internally. I
count a dozen different plastic bits. Even if no fancy stuff were required
(undercuts, etc) you're still looking at a whole lot of money to duplicate
that case. Then you've got to print labels for the keys, so that's an extra
step for the custom keycaps. You've also got to make/buy the hinges, cables,
springs in the unit.

And don't forget the added cost of labour for assembling all these bits plus
the keyboard, plus testing and rework. Since the quantity would be low, its
not likely you'd want to invest in automated assembly, so hand assembly of
the keyboard and the rest of the package would be required. At the
quantities we're talking, you're looking at North American labor rates, so
add another $50 to the cost of a unit.

I'm trying to pick stuff where the labor intensive stuff is done by someone
else.

Oh ya, and a screen that will fit is not easy to come by - at least as a
standard product. Which means that you need to pay development costs for a
custom display. I can't quote prices, but when I looked into it for a
different project two years ago, it wasn't reasonable unless you were going
to make a lot of screens. And the CE screens? They're all custom too. Over
at http://www.flat-panel.com they have a pretty big inventory of off the
shelf screens. The smallest they have is 7 inches by 5 inches and then
you've got to put plastic around that.

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>This is a low power NEC V50 processor (80186 clone) with Vadem's own PCMCIA
>and peripherals on a single chip.

Shouldn't the machine at least run protected mode?

>License DOS from Datalight or Caldera. Advantage of Datalight is that they
>have a Win3.x clone OS that can ride on top of their DOS.

I would vote to not include Win3.x, what would be the advantage again?

>Keyboard/Mouse: (varies wildly)

10key very important IMO.  Mouse?  For what?

>Support for USB keyboard and mouse.

USB should be the key to all the periferals.  You can daisy chain all the
extras w/o a drain to the batteries.

>IR: Does anybody really use this?

Never have.

>So, in total, you're looking at $300. Add 20% because I probably forgot
>something. Double it to cover capital (tooling) and development costs and to
>eventually make some money from this and you're looking at $699

Labor is usually the biggest cost.  Was that included?

>How about it? Any orders :-)

I would, if I had confidence the company would exist long enough to support the
warranty & beyond.  With that said, I think it would be necessary to get a well
established company to back it.  I say make a go of it.  I'll need a
replacement soon.

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David Cripps <david_cripps@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Measured this recently, so depending on what you have..
> Note: All measured at 12V input:

Thanks, David, for making that excellent current usage chart.
You just need to add a category with high rate charging
enabled.  That should require a bit more current from the
external power source.


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Simon Lee <audio@IOHK.COM> wrote:

> Might I know could this driver works for Megahertz 28.8 also?

Most likely, yes.  The CIC100 driver in the 100/200LX ROM will
work with the vast majority of PCMCIA modems.  I know that
LXCIC works with many modems, but I think there are some it
does not support.

As Fred says, though, the problem with the 28.8 modem will
probably not be the driver, but the power consumption.  The
palmtop can only supply 150 ma of current to the modem (even
while on AC power) and many 28.8 modems need more power than
that.  You should check the specs on your modem.


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> >This is a low power NEC V50 processor (80186 clone) with Vadem's own
PCMCIA
> >and peripherals on a single chip.
>
> Shouldn't the machine at least run protected mode?
>

What advantage do you get from running DOS in protected mode? Oh, you want a
Linux machine, of course. Well, the issue here is mechanical. This chip is
easier to work with than the AMD Elan series, which is only available as
BGA. BGA form factor requires a painful, expensive, development and
manufacturing process. I haven't looked at the embedded x86 clones from ST
Micro, though....


> >License DOS from Datalight or Caldera. Advantage of Datalight is that
they
> >have a Win3.x clone OS that can ride on top of their DOS.
>
> I would vote to not include Win3.x, what would be the advantage again?
>

Gee wiz?

> >Keyboard/Mouse: (varies wildly)
>
> 10key very important IMO.  Mouse?  For what?
>

CAD. But then USB means you can pick whatever you want to add as long as
there's a driver for it.

> >Support for USB keyboard and mouse.
>
> USB should be the key to all the periferals.  You can daisy chain all the
> extras w/o a drain to the batteries.
>

> >So, in total, you're looking at $300. Add 20% because I probably forgot
> >something. Double it to cover capital (tooling) and development costs and
to
> >eventually make some money from this and you're looking at $699
>
> Labor is usually the biggest cost.  Was that included?
>

Labour on this system will consist of taking a manufactured board and
inserting it into a case. Same with the Kopin lense/display assembly. I did
include in my guess for board mfg cost the price of system test.

> >How about it? Any orders :-)
>
> I would, if I had confidence the company would exist long enough to
support the
> warranty & beyond.  With that said, I think it would be necessary to get a
well
> established company to back it.  I say make a go of it.  I'll need a
> replacement soon.
>

well, a business case would need to be made, including some idea of volumes
before anybody would touch this - established or not.

> Don.
>

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I'm mild mannered and hate being flamed, but...

HP are NOT making a big mistake by discontinuing the 200LX any more than =
your girlfiend was whem she dumped you for the nerd with pots of money.

It's their choice and their problem. _We_ don't have a problem.

* HP200s are robust & long lasting. Yours will serve you well
  for years to come. Replacing it in 5 years time with the
  spare you buy now is a lot cheaper than upgrading a CE
  machine every 6 months.

* Most, if not all niggles are known about and fixable.

* Even "asteroid hitting the earth" style problems like the
  hinge crack are fixable with a little care. Soon we'll all
  know how to fix it with our eyes closed.

* They work - and work well. They are more useful now than
  ever before thanks to  well-written, functional 3rd party
  software. No names!

* There will be (wishful thinking?) an inexhaustable cheap
  supply when the corporates who were using them in vertical
  applications flood the market as they dump them for a
  modern, supported machine. Tens (hundreds?) of thousands
  were made. Hundreds/a few thousand still want to use them.
  Nice ratio. Just keep telling people how crap they were and
  that they're practically worthless ;-)

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Rick
Can yu be more detailed?
Do yu know anyone that might try this?
I may.

yor pal al...................................

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Hi Chris,

you made a good point. What about the idea to place a collective order for
those who interested in??

rgds,
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Hi friends,

is there any utility that's able to set the com port of the palmtop to
a given baud rate?

I tried MODE COM1 BAUD=xxxxx, but that only works up to 9600 baud. I
need to set it to 115200. If I try this, mode says 'invalid parameter'.

It has to be a command line utility, not a TSR!

TNX
daniel

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Can u b more detailed in yr request fr details? What specific areas would
you like more info on?

As to someone trying this, there will always be somebody that can be
persuaded, but, like I said, it would take a business case, or a pile of
orders. Something to demonstrate the viability of the project.

rick

> Rick
> Can yu be more detailed?
> Do yu know anyone that might try this?
> I may.
>
> yor pal al...................................
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I think so.

_________________Reply Seperator__________________


Would the URL be www.freeway.com?

Don.

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Hey all -

Got my pin for Freeway and successfully downloaded mail from palmtop.com using
Freeway. I found the easiest way was to change the "Manual Dial" Option in the
connection screen to "Yes" and dial that way - it is kind of a pain.

Just one more free email method for HPLX!

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On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> is there any utility that's able to set the com port of the palmtop to
> a given baud rate?
>
> I tried MODE COM1 BAUD=xxxxx, but that only works up to 9600 baud. I
> need to set it to 115200. If I try this, mode says 'invalid parameter'.


The DOS 5.0 manual says valid values for BAUD=b (over 4800),
are 9600 (BAUD=96) or 19,200 (BAUD=19).  It also says 19 is
not supported on all computers--my 200LX gives the "not
supported" message when I try MODE COM1 BAUD=19.

The manual also says you may abbreviate the parameter by
omitting BAUD= and specifying a value for b.  I had no
luck with this for anything I tried over 9600.

Ted

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Freeway is that free long distance for advertisement thing isn't it?

Have you tried putting in commas to the dial string to wait?

Like this:

ATDT16095551212,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McIlvaine İmailto:bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:47 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Freeway and ccMail
>
>
> I think so.
>
> _________________Reply Seperator__________________
>
>
> Would the URL be www.freeway.com?
>
> Don.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> Hey all -
>
> Got my pin for Freeway and successfully downloaded mail from
> palmtop.com using
> Freeway. I found the easiest way was to change the "Manual
> Dial" Option in the
> connection screen to "Yes" and dial that way - it is kind of a pain.
>
> Just one more free email method for HPLX!
>
> Brian McIlvaine
>
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>   Go here:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/08geek.html

I did. I am a registered user. It told me that this article is
probably no longer up because they are only kept for the day
of publication - and encouraged me to buy the article ;-( ...
I am in Switzerland, and did it when our date here was ALSO 8
July...

Checked the URL twice, too. Maybe I'll try again.

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Larry,

> ... sold on his website, E-Bay (what'd you think the 'E' abbreviated?).

Aha!!! Explains it all. I believe in Turkish (correct me
someone who knows better!)  the word "bay" means something
like "king" or "important person". So E-Bay works out. Just
curiosity - why use the tuekish word? :-)

I went to see the NYTimes article, but by the time I logged in
it was already off the E-presses, and I did not feel like buying
a copy of the article...

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> Certainly. I wasn't trying to create closed development, but only to minimize
> the volume of messages on the list. (Judging from the overwhelming response I
> had from interested programmers, this will not be a concern :-) I'll be
> drafting an outline proposal this weekend and I will post it on Monday...

You mean the rush of programmers to your door has overwhelmed
your doors and windows? :-) ...

I am looking forward to your posting.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:44:45 -0700
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Don,

> I would think that news.hplx.net:hp200.programmers would be a more appropriate
> forum.  The list here tends to get off topic quickly.

If programmers go out there to their lair and devise the next
marvel without taking in the voice of the users, no matter how
scattered i can get, then in my humble opinion they are
designing blind, mught as well code blind, and test it on a
Macintosh, not a palmtop. We have ample examples of
programming in the millions of lines being done up in Redmond.
While selling oodles of copies, it is unmitigated garbage.

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Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM> posted on Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:57:42
EDT:

    I think a quick reading of a new book, "Open Sources,Voices from the
> Open Source Revolution" edited by Chris DiBona, Sam Ockman & Mark Sloan,
> released  January, l999 by O"Reilly will shed more light and less heat on
> these topics. Particularly relevant to software developers would be the
> article "Open Source as a Business Strategy",by Brian Behlendorf.

Thank you for the reference.

>    There is a place for proprietary software, much as there is for custom
> software. But it is a small market, and not subject to the same pressures
> as the Great Baza'ar.  If Avi or Andreas make a tool that is useful to
> me, I will buy it. There seems little danger of creating another
> BillBorg. If Rod Whitby creates a tool which I find useful and gives it
> away, I will use it. I'll probably also have the added benefit of using
> it until the nth generation and iteration long after Rod stops working on
> it, because of its OpenSource nature.

I like that BillBorg thing :-) ... I appreciate what you
posted, very thoughtful, very thought-provoking.

OpenSource means a different business model and while I am
definitely interested to look at it, I am still not sure what
it means to operate a completely different type of business
than what we currently have with D&A. This post helps with
raising good ideas and thoughts.

The model of Red Hat is interesting and very telling, of
course. But there is a significant distinction: They did not
produce the software, they just repackage it.

In our niche, Hal repackaged freeware and shareware (?) and
called it Super Software Carousel. Of course he added lots of
value by collecting the s/w, the installation, the whole idea!

Again, this is a separate business model from D&A. So anyway,
all this is very worthwhile discussions for us. We are still
learning what this whole thing means... I can tell you that
Andreas is a very strong supporter of Open Source and has of
course many contributions with source, some freeware and
commercial stuff. So we are not exactly unsympathetic and
hostile to the idea :-) ...

My issue in stepping off the ledge is that I am not sure if
past the ledge is a 2000m. drop unto har rocks, or a nice soft
lake just 50cm. below the ledge. And I don't enjoy the thrill
of suicide because it is too short, too temporary :-) At least
from what I know :)  ...

>    I am confident that my HP-LX will serve me through the next several
> years until something better comes along. But in the meantime we may see
> castles fall and mountains tumble.

Words to etch in metal and hang at eyelevel! :-)

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A search on SUPER and games.hplx.net reveals nothing, so I'm asking...

Is there a version of Milles Bornes (I'm not sure if that's spelled right)
that runs on the 200LX?  The name means "1000 Miles," I think, and is a
card game where the cards are all related to driving a car 1000 miles to
win the game.

If anybody knows of one (or wants to write one <g>) please respond.

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In a message dated 7/9/1999 04:39:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK writes:

> I'm mild mannered and hate being flamed, but...
>
>  HP are NOT making a big mistake by discontinuing the 200LX any more than
> your girlfiend was whem she dumped you for the nerd with pots of money.
>
Wonderfully well said.

HP has the design complete, has the tooling and the suppliers, is hundreds of
thousands of units down the learning curve, and has decided that there is not
enough money to justify the continued production of our beloved LX.

Now some of us think we can do better as an absolute start-up enterprise.  It
seems to me that we are drunk on the smell of someone else's cork.  The list
just identified 35 people who are interested in a web browser, but
substantially less who were willing to pay for it.  I don't know how many
have been willing to pay the (very reasonable) price of the 32/64 Meg memory
upgrades.  If you add that number to the number who are willing to pay the
reasonable estimate of $80 for a new browser, you probably have an estimate
of how many of this new computer will be sold.

Can the projected price possibly be lower than the price for a small family
auto?

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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We expect to announce in a few weeks the limited availability of 96 MB
(Mack, Times2Tech created) upgrades.

This is a pre-announcement so that if anyone is considering an upgrade they
know now about this possibility in advance.

The upgrade is expect to cost around $1000.  (We will also sell these on a
used or new system). Only 20 chip sets were created due to limited
availability, cost, and not knowing what kind of user demand there will be.
We don't know if more 96 meg upgrades will be available.

If you are interested, you can get on the waiting list at
orders@thaddeus.com.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:44:27 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Subject:      Fluff: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)
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I find it hard to believe that our friends in Redmond took time
out to assess the impact an old, "out-dated" device like the
HP LX was having on their WinCE sales (or any other sales
for that matter)... The volume is just too low (IMHO)...

Don't forget, for every HP LX sold, Redmond got its $$ for
DOS 5.0 (how old is that technology?!). What may be
happening is that MS *may* be losing interest in managing
the DOS licensees and the comparatively low revenues that
category generates (low revenue per device, and low volume
sales).

I think that MS could drop all WinCE palmtop/handheld offerings
and *still* make money with WinCE - they want to put this in
set-top boxes, cars, etc...

In my heart of hearts, I have to agree with HP for cancelling the
200 LX (et al), because of part availability, low sales, etc...

That is *not* an indictment of the 200 LX, but a concession to
a market reality - 400 Mhz Laptops are below $1000 now, how
much will the *general market* pay for an 8 Mhz XT with some
DOS software bundled?

As for the IBM/Lotus idea - well, they tried that (PC110) and though
it sold well (in Japan), that was dropped (too expensive, and parts
availability I suspect) - granted, Lotus software was not included, but
you could load anything (including MS Office97) so I don't view
the inclusion of Lotus as the magic piece to propell sales "through
the roof"...

And the Librettos are dead (in America, anyway) due to low sales and
that was a much more "usable" system (large screen, keyboard and
large storage capacities).

Just my $.02,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop?


<snip>
Being a proud paranoid, I'm pretty sure that the 200LX wasn't killed
off by slumping sales, but on orders from Micro$haft.

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On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> I did. I am a registered user. It told me that this article is
> probably no longer up because they are only kept for the day of
> publication - and encouraged me to buy the article ;-( ... I am in
> Switzerland, and did it when our date here was ALSO 8 July...

Thanks to a quick-thinking news.hplx.net user, the full article is
available in the hp200.general group on news.hplx.net.  I'd prefer not to
forward it to the list, due to the fact that they might bust me for some
sort of copyright violation.

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Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>

Holy crap! that's a lotta megabytes!




İHPLX-L¨ 96 MB Upgrade, soon to be available
>
>
> We expect to announce in a few weeks the limited availability of 96 MB
> (Mack, Times2Tech created) upgrades.
>
> This is a pre-announcement so that if anyone is considering
> an upgrade they
> know now about this possibility in advance.
>
> The upgrade is expect to cost around $1000.  (We will also
> sell these on a
> used or new system). Only 20 chip sets were created due to limited
> availability, cost, and not knowing what kind of user demand
> there will be.
> We don't know if more 96 meg upgrades will be available.
>
> If you are interested, you can get on the waiting list at
> orders@thaddeus.com.
>
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>Is there a version of Milles Bornes (I'm not sure if that's spelled right)
>that runs on the 200LX?  The name means "1000 Miles," I think, and is a
>card game where the cards are all related to driving a car 1000 miles to
>win the game.

I had a shareware version that ran great on my XT so I assume that it would
run on the LX.
I probably still have it on a 5in  floppy somewhere. If you want I will try
to locate it.

-MC

-
Michelle Cordrey                                {mcordrey@perl.sdsu.edu}
Pacific Estuarine Research Laboratory   ph: 619.594.7422
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Current users of news.hplx.net who forget their password or login should
mail me (david@hplx.net) and I'll get it sent back to them.  New users
should go to http://news.hplx.net to register.

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I could be totaly wrong but I thought DR DOS used protected mode and could
multi-task & all that.  Also, does OS/2 come with a non GUI flavor?

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
What advantage do you get from running DOS in protected mode? Oh, you want a
Linux machine, of course.

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Subject:      news.hplx.net access....
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

David Sargeant wrote:
>Thanks to a quick-thinking news.hplx.net user, the full article is
>available in the hp200.general group on news.hplx.net.

<That's the NY Times article, for those that missed the post>

Isn't the news.hplx.net a password protected access site?  I remember
registration, etc. was free (I think). Who can I contact to get my reg.
info?  <one of the last 2 things, I *hope,* left for me to recover from my
now months old crash>

TIA,

--tim

PS. I'm not very familiar w/ password protected newsgroups that have
navigable sub-groups, any "how-2" advice is also appreciated....

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Playing with X-Finder again, I have a quick question for anyone who knows off
the top of their head...

How do I set it to pause or wait for a keypress after executing a DOS command,
instead of returning so quickly I can't see the result?

> Inconceivable is of course a matter of opinion, or the limberness of
> individuals' conceivers, or whatever. I may have screwed up somewhere, but:

TIA,
Bruce in Toronto
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:17:51 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net> =
wrote:

pe> Anyway, back to TaskBar - Is there a way to launch DOS executables, =
or
pe> just EXMs and the built-ins?  I have the cascading menues working, =
and
pe> can launch the system manager stuff, but haven't worked the DOS =
stuff.
pe>
pe> -Peniel

The only DOS programs I've tried to add are the ones I've put in the
SM screen with their own hotkeys(i.e. WP5&1 assigned to Fn F9).I
can't see how to add a program that doesn't have a hot key. Basically
I use Software Carousel and HDM for my most used DOS apps. Sorry I
can't help more.

     Paul
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The replacement exists, we just can afford it.

http://www.flexipc.com/

Lets see....blah, blah, no connection with the company, not a commercial
endorsement, ah, blah, blah, blah!
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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 19:22:46 -0400 (EDT)

14m20s ago ...
On Fri,  9 Jul 1999, Bruce Martin wrote:

> How do I set it to pause or wait for a keypress after executing a DOS
> command, instead of returning so quickly I can't see the result?

If you're typing in the command in the box opened from F10 (DOS), just
add |k to the end.  If you're setting up in finder.env, add k in the
switch column (after the first comma).

HTH


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Subject:      Re: FLUFF  Making a replacement for the 200

> The replacement exists, we just can afford it.
>
> http://www.flexipc.com/
>
> Lets see....blah, blah, no connection with the company, not a commercial
> endorsement, ah, blah, blah, blah!

Boy, talk about inflated prices. $220 for a 3.2G drive upgrade, $62
for an anc headset. If this was priced more in line with mass market
computers it would probably be a good deal. For reference you can by
IBM 2.5" 9.5mm 3.2g drives for around $130 and that is without an
allowance for the upgraded 1.6G that is included.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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I believe news.hplx.net is open to the general public.  Is this not true?  If
the discussion were taken up on the news server, people truely interested could
partake at a deeper level regarding pointer arrays, interupts and the like.
Without the usual destractions about the evil MS empire and political
discourse.

I would never sugest a "closed door" policy to software development.  I agree
with you, the consumers need must be heard.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
> I would think that news.hplx.net:hp200.programmers would be a more
>appropriate forum.  The list here tends to get off topic quickly.

If programmers go out there to their lair and devise the next
marvel without taking in the voice of the users, no matter how
scattered i can get, then in my humble opinion they are
designing blind,

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On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> I believe news.hplx.net is open to the general public.  Is this not
> true?  If the discussion were taken up on the news server, people
> truely interested could partake at a deeper level regarding pointer
> arrays, interupts and the like. Without the usual destractions about
> the evil MS empire and political discourse.

Most of the newsgroups are open to people who register.  It is not freely
accessible by any random person or news client, though, because that would
lead to spam and e-mail harvesting.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:36:32 -0500
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On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, "Vempire" <vempire@NOSPAMbigfoot.com> wrote:

İsnip¨
> Still it is not enough to surf the internet, since I have to remove the
> memory card in order to slide in my PCMCIA modem. There is no free =
software
> that fits in the remaining 300KB to fully support HTML browsing and =
e-mail
> handling.
İsnip¨

Well, your 200LX with 10MB flash card would be enough  to surf
the Web if you used an external, battery-powered modem.

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On 28 Jun 1999, Feinmanr@AOL.COM (Roger Feinman) wrote:

> Thanks, but I did that.  I'm looking for something in the 4-6 foot =
range.
>

The end that connects to the CD-ROM drive is a standard SCSI
connector. Why not just add a standard SCSI cable to the end
of the custom HP cable?

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On 29 Jun 1999, TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ("Peter W. Borders") wrote:

> Ok, here is a weird question for all you fountain pen lovers, anyone
> know of a good place to get them fixed via mail thats not too
> expensive? See above, mostly bladder problems, the pens not me. :-)

Two possible places.

Levengers, www.levengers.com, or The Fountain Pen Hospital
which is in New York City and has a Web site. Not sure of the
URL but probably www.fountainpenhospital.com or some such
thing.

I know that Levengers sells lots of fountain pens and bottled
ink from at least six manufacturers in many colors. While it
is impossible to buy bottled ink at Office Max (in fact, the
sales people look at you like you are crazy when you ask)
there seems to be a renaissance in bottled ink in the fountain
pen specialty stores.

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02h42m44s ago ...
On Fri,  9 Jul 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:

> In my heart of hearts, I have to agree with HP for cancelling the
> 200 LX (et al), because of part availability, low sales, etc...

Well, if the bottom line is the ONLY criterion, then, yeah, they're
right.  But, I'm a middle-aged fogey who still puts some value on
reputation.  HP once had the reputation for creativity, innovation and
quality.  Now they're sticking the HP logo on pretty-much cookie-cutter
wince boxes.  WHERE'S THE BEEF??

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)


Fri,  9 Jul 1999 20:38:48 -0400 (EDT)

02h42m44s ago ...
On Fri,  9 Jul 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:

> In my heart of hearts, I have to agree with HP for cancelling the
> 200 LX (et al), because of part availability, low sales, etc...

>>Well, if the bottom line is the ONLY criterion, then, yeah, they're
right.  But, I'm a middle-aged fogey who still puts some value on
reputation.  HP once had the reputation for creativity, innovation and
quality.  Now they're sticking the HP logo on pretty-much cookie-cutter
wince boxes.  WHERE'S THE BEEF??<<

HP used to be an engineering company that produced innovative and
quite usable products. sometime after they were bought around the time
of the Omnigo 100, and whatever Omnibook came after th 800 they became
a marketing company.  Their handhelds turned to CE, their notebooks became
cookie cutter imports, and their desktops became little more than clones
themselves.   The HP of old has been gone for some time, just the latest
events of the HP's demise are stiring memories of old.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com



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What now - law enforcement over the Internet, Jeff??

At 02:26 PM 09-07-1999 Friday -0300, LP wrote:
>Hi Jeff-
>
>Can you send me a cop   of StS, please.
>Thanks !
>
>Luis Prado
>
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Does anyone have a concise, clear guide to fonts on the HP100/200?
(As in HPLX Fonts for Dummies - or what's out there, what it takes
to create new fonts, etc?)

I have downloaded what I could find but my aging eyes would love to
have a taller, narrower but heavier font that the lucs15 that I'm
currently using for HV.  (Did that make any sense?) Bigger fonts for
VR might be nice, too.

Any help would be appreciated!

Terry

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In a message dated 7/9/99 5:49:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@FTEL.NET
writes:

> It told me that this article is
>  probably no longer up because they are only kept for the day

Yes, but they usually keep the "Circuits" section around for longer than that
for people to view for free.  Do this:  Forget the URL.  Go to their home
page, click on "Technology" and see if you can find any links to "Circuits".

-roger-

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See my reply to Avi in this thread.  I haven't looked but I'll bet the
article is still available on their site.  No need to go cloak-and-dagger on
this.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:33:47 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Why?
because HP will be able to sold is technology to another compagny.
It's just a dream, but I imagine a compagny making a new version of the LX
8o)
Alain
Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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In a message dated 7/9/99 8:54:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, driden@STLNET.COM
writes:

>
>  HP used to be an engineering company . . .  they became
>  a marketing company

Well, I've been following the replies, and I both agree and sorta disagree
with this.  First of all, according to the comments of HP's marketing manager
in The New York Times, the palmtops were still selling without any work on
his part (which we already knew was the case <g>).  I think they simply made
a decision to focus solely on the corporate market, and to forget
professional groups and individuals.  The WinCE handheld is a device that is
superficially appealing to the corporate market until  you analyze its
weaknesses and compare it to sub-notebooks.  It's not a device that the
average user is going to hack on, unless he knows Visual C++.  He's not going
to try to hook up a GPS or a ZIP drive to it.  In view of its limited memory,
it's unlikely that he's going to load a lot of programs onto it.  It's
designed mainly to integrate with Outlook, and to carry around an Excel
spreadsheet or a Powerpoint diagram, although not to perform any serious
manipulations of the data while on the road.  The user is tethered to his
network or intranet, and to the corporate desktop.  It's a "safe" machine.

What I was thinking is that IBM/Lotus could not only appeal to that same
segment, but to a much broader range of users and achieve a much greater
degree of market penetration with an offering of its own by taking advantage
of HP's and MS's oversights and the vacuum they have left.  At the same time,
they could promote their flagship software product, Notes.  Indeed, look at
the opportunity that they lose by not doing so:  If there is an attraction
(to some) in these WinCE handhelds, IBM/Lotus is simply laying down for
Microsoft by leaving this branch of the connectivity world to Redmond and
letting them spread the gospel of Microsoft Office even further, to the
detriment of Notes, Smart Suite, and cc:Mail (which Lotus is still selling,
although they don't want to make a big deal of that fact).  So far, nobody
has addressed this basic thrust of the issue I raised.

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Circuits articles (where the HP200lx obit appeared) are free even from
archive.  You won't have to pay to look at this article.

Larry Zimmerman

On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:44:15 -0700 A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> writes:
>Larry,
>
>> ... sold on his website, E-Bay (what'd you think the 'E'
>abbreviated?).
>
>Aha!!! Explains it all. I believe in Turkish (correct me
>someone who knows better!)  the word "bay" means something
>like "king" or "important person". So E-Bay works out. Just
>curiosity - why use the tuekish word? :-)
>
>I went to see the NYTimes article, but by the time I logged in
>it was already off the E-presses, and I did not feel like buying
>a copy of the article...
>

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I have been playing around with PIM.  It looks like it
would be very useful to me.  I am, however, having a couple
of problems.

1.  If I try to check off completed tasks or view the help
file when pim.exe is running, I get an error message
something like "This function does not work if PE is not
running"  How do I get both to run at the same time?

2.  The pe.mac file I have does not support all of the
macros alluded to in the help file.  Is there a pe.mac file
available outside the pim.zip and pe22.zip files?  The
pe.mac file I have looks like this:

; Example PE macro file
;
;Alt-G Grep all PIM files
#2200=#2d18#1372#1970
;Alt-E Encode
#1200=#2d18#1205
;Alt-D Decode
#2000=#2d18#2004
;Alt-N Go to next occurance
#3100=#2d18#2267
;Alt-ENTER Record view
#1c00=#2e03#5300#1c0d


TIA

Kat
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Fri,  9 Jul 1999 22:21:32 -0400 (EDT)

01h08m44s ago ...
On Fri,  9 Jul 1999, Terry Owen wrote:

> Does anyone have a concise, clear guide to fonts on the HP100/200?
> (As in HPLX Fonts for Dummies - or what's out there, what it takes
> to create new fonts, etc?)

You need a copy of PFE - the PAL Font Editor.  Check on SUPER.  If
it's not available on its own, look for fontstuff.zip - it includes a
lot of replacements for the built-in fonts and a copy of PFE.

> I have downloaded what I could find but my aging eyes would love to
> have a taller, narrower but heavier font that the lucs15 that I'm
> currently using for HV.  (Did that make any sense?) Bigger fonts for
> VR might be nice, too.

Makes sense to me.  8-)  PFE will create and edit .hfn fonts for HV
and .vfn fonts for VR.  It'll also work on .fcl fonts for Gilles Kohl's
FCL (font loader that can be used to replace the built-ins.

HTH


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Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> I usually run my backups automatically, just after midnight
> so speed is usually not a consideration... but those of you
> who need to run this backup manually may find the added -es
> switch useful in cutting down the time

And for you, I would recommend the  -ex  switch on the PKZIP
commend line instead of  -es.   -ex tells PKZIP to use maximum
compression ratio.  This may take a little longer, but will
leave the archive smaller.  I always use -ex because I have
not really noticed the slower processing but I like the
smaller archive.


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On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> And for you, I would recommend the -ex switch on the PKZIP commend
> line instead of -es.  -ex tells PKZIP to use maximum compression
> ratio.  This may take a little longer, but will leave the archive
> smaller.  I always use -ex because I have not really noticed the
> slower processing but I like the smaller archive.

I agree, it usually gives me a little more compression than the default at
no noticeable speed decrease (except on the 200LX, but if you run backups
automatically at night, who cares?) .  There was a report a while back
that the -ex option caused ZIP files to become corrupt more frequently
than regular compression, but I haven't seen it happen myself so I
wouldn't know.

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In a message dated 7/9/99 4:39:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK writes:

> It's their choice and their problem. _We_ don't have a problem.

There are inconsistencies in your argument, e.g., if people think the 200 LX
is valuable enough to horde spares now, what makes you think that
"corporates" are going to dump them in droves later on?  People who don't
take full advantage of them anyway ("gadget freaks") are going to dump them
when they move to a different platform.  People who understand and use this
machine will never part with it.  It's like the slide rules that engineers
used to carry from the time they were in school throughout their professional
lives.  But I disagree with you in a more general way: It IS _our_ problem,
although how heavily it weighs is a matter of individual predildection.

The most credible buzz in the industry is that Microsoft is going to
eliminate the DOS underpinnings of Windows within the next two years.  Right
now, commercial development of DOS software is almost nil.  If the buzz
become reality, what are you going to swap your palmtop data to?  Where are
you going to run applications on the desktop or notebook at those times when
you don't feel like using the palmtop? The palmtop will be, not merely a
standalone computer, but a very lonely computer.

Now, I use certain applications both on and off the palmtop that have never
been duplicated in Windows.  Certain others have been ported to Windows, but
their cost is so prohibitive that, if I were forced to replace them in the
aggregate, I could not presently afford to do so, and I suspect that neither
could many individuals who work outside the mainstream corporate domain.
Moreover, besides the cost, the hassles of "retooling" would be a tremendous
and time-consuming preoccupation.  So, I see the discontinuation of the
palmtop as more than just the demise of a platform that I happen to like very
much, but also as the harbinger of troubles just over the horizon.  Right
now, everything in Palmtop Land is just as cool as it was a month ago,
however, that situation is not going to last.  So, it's not just the machine
-- it's the overall philosophy of how I am going to be able to relate to and
work with computers in the future.

They gave us too much, and then they took it away.

-roger-

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Thanks for the tip Stan.

I may give it a shot later, but right now I'm only using 1/2 of my 48mb CF and
the nightly archive of my C drive is only just under 1 meg, so size isn't so
much a consideration as safety.

Have you restored often from archives built with this tight a compression?
There's some dangers as David alluded to.

- Longden





Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@carroll.com> on 07/09/99 07:38:22 PM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  PKZIP for backup




Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> I usually run my backups automatically, just after midnight
> so speed is usually not a consideration... but those of you
> who need to run this backup manually may find the added -es
> switch useful in cutting down the time

And for you, I would recommend the  -ex  switch on the PKZIP
commend line instead of  -es.   -ex tells PKZIP to use maximum
compression ratio.  This may take a little longer, but will
leave the archive smaller.  I always use -ex because I have
not really noticed the slower processing but I like the
smaller archive.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:58:57 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Some of the newer stuff is coming in format for the newer Windows versions. If
you have trouble, I've got a bunch of the old DOS stuff.

I also have some spiral bound manuals for the DOS Online Bible program.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Steve Dowell wrote:

> Tom,
> Do you know where to download the complete Topics for use with Hisword? I
> couldn't seem to find it on your site or at the Online Bible Site.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:39:24 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Freeway and CC:mail

Hi Brian,

>Got my pin for Freeway and successfully downloaded mail from palmtop.com
using
>Freeway. I found the easiest way was to change the "Manual Dial" Option
in the
>connection screen to "Yes" and dial that way - it is kind of a pain.
>
>Just one more free email method for HPLX!

  I reported this possibility quite a while back, but didn't get the
chance to test it in a real world situation before someone suddenly
reported that it didn't work for him. By then, a more important project
had demanded my undivided attention.

  Thank you so much for posting how it worked for you and how you
actually did it. I'll soon have some free time to perfect the operation
for myself. :-)

  One tip I'd like to pass on about using Freeway to send and retrieve
your free email from Palmtop.com is to listen to enough ads so that the
30 second "out of time" warning beep from Freeway will not interfere with
your download. I'd surmise that listening to 2 ads would work for most
people. :-)

  If anyone else has other tips on how they use Freeway free long
distance to access their email from palmtop.com, please post them.

  This free email and free long distance combination actually does offer
absolutely FREE email from anywhere in the US! :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

___________________________________________________________________
Get the Internet just the way you want it.
Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:24:41 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Is it legal to post the article on the list given due respect for reference?
If so, maybe a collection of obituaries should be posted on the LX. And if so,
I'll post or somebody post the NYT article.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:21:19 -0400
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              Peter W <peterw@USA.NET>
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On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Date:    Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:36:18 EDT
> From:    Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Demise of HP200

> The most credible buzz in the industry is that Microsoft is going to
> eliminate the DOS underpinnings of Windows within the next two years.  Right
> now, commercial development of DOS software is almost nil.  If the buzz
> become reality, what are you going to swap your palmtop data to?  Where are
> you going to run applications on the desktop or notebook at those times when
> you don't feel like using the palmtop?

1) Run DOS or an older version of Windows with DOS under VMWare
    http://www.vmware.com/
   VMWare runs on Windows NT or Linux.

2) Run DOSEMU or Bochs on something like Linux.

Also I think eliminating the "underpinnings" is not necessarily the same
as removing DOS. For instance, I ran ACE Technologies' ACELink app in DOS
sessions in OS/2 Warp. OS/2 doesn't have DOS underpinnings, but like
Windows NT, has a mechanism for Virtual DOS Machines. Given how many times
I've seen pricey NT server products with "Console Mode" utlities, I don't
think DOS is really going away; it's just changing from being the
underpinnings (ala Windows 9İ58¨) to being something like a VDM. Which
should happen next year when Windows oh-oh is released.

-Peter

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:29:03 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Is there a version of Milles Bornes (I'm not sure if that's spelled right)
> that runs on the 200LX?  The name means "1000 Miles," I think, and is a
> card game where the cards are all related to driving a car 1000 miles to
> win the game.

I don't know of any for CGA.  I have an excellent version that
requires at least EGA or maybe VGA.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:51:20 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Kat Deutscher wrote:
> 1.  If I try to check off completed tasks or view the help
> file when pim.exe is running, I get an error message
> something like "This function does not work if PE is not
> running"  How do I get both to run at the same time?

PIM.EXE needs PE.EXE to perform certain tasks. Therefore, it is best to
just use PE.EXE and always launch PIM.EXE from within PE (and never
directly), e.g. by pressing Ctrl-ENTER from within PE.

> 2.  The pe.mac file I have does not support all of the
> macros alluded to in the help file.  Is there a pe.mac file
> available outside the pim.zip and pe22.zip files?

There is no ready-made MAC file (as that would overwrite the macros
that you probably already created). Copying and pasting the macros
from the PIM docs into PE.MAC should be the easiest way to "update"
PE.MAC.

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 02:25:46 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> is there any utility that's able to set the com port of the palmtop to
> a given baud rate?
>
> I tried MODE COM1 BAUD=xxxxx, but that only works up to 9600 baud. I
> need to set it to 115200. If I try this, mode says 'invalid parameter'.

{600 is ok. Leads me to believe that the port is incapable of
supporting a higher rate, ergo, cannot set it up to what it
cannot support.

Imagine a speedometer going to 350kph on a Subaru Justy, or a
Renault 2CV. Ridiculous image, no? :)

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 02:25:37 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: /Rant/ HP really is slimy!!!! /Rant/
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John,

> Subject:      /Rant/ HP really is slimy!!!! /Rant/

> Nothing!!! Nada!!! Silch!!!

> Move to another HP product? Hell no!!! They'll probably
> discontinue that too!!

> Instead of improving on the best and making it even better
> then discontinuing they are trying to pass off junk!!! They
> really suck.

> Carry around another battery pack? Where am I going to put
> it? I know where they can put it!!! AA's would probably slip
> right in there<g>. HP has really changed.

> Now they suck and try to pass off junk.

> Nothing about these CE things is any better than the 200,

So, tell us how you _really_ feel about HP! :-)

I can easily agree with each and every item, in tone, and
content!

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 02:25:41 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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Hi Chris,

> I'm mild mannered and hate being flamed, but...

The first part I can attest to! :)

> HP are NOT making a big mistake by discontinuing the 200LX any more than
> your girlfiend was whem she dumped you for the nerd with pots of money.

Yeah, yeah, we react like the dumped boyfriend. But hey,
rejection is tough. :)

> It's their choice and their problem. _We_ don't have a problem.

A little yes, see later...

> * HP200s are robust & long lasting. Yours will serve you well
>   for years to come. Replacing it in 5 years time with the
>   spare you buy now is a lot cheaper than upgrading a CE
>   machine every 6 months.

So to stay with the metaphor it is like we had two girlfrieds,
one pretty and money-hungry, one steady and robust :) ... The
pretty one dumped us...

> * Most, if not all niggles are known about and fixable.

Yeah, and she is steady and robust :) ... And she lasts a long
time... She is ready to go at "the flick of a button". She may
not be fast, but she's got great "expansions". Oh and her
software offerings are extensive.

> * Even "asteroid hitting the earth" style problems like the
>   hinge crack are fixable with a little care. Soon we'll all
>   know how to fix it with our eyes closed.

Nothing like a little practice in the dark for them blind days
when the asteroids hit...

> * They work - and work well. They are more useful now than
>   ever before thanks to  well-written, functional 3rd party
>   software. No names!

_Her_ former boyfriends will remain anonymous, but they taught
her some nice things...

> * There will be (wishful thinking?) an inexhaustable cheap
>   supply when the corporates who were using them in vertical
>   applications flood the market as they dump them for a
>   modern, supported machine. Tens (hundreds?) of thousands
>   were made. Hundreds/a few thousand still want to use them.
>   Nice ratio. Just keep telling people how crap they were and
>   that they're practically worthless ;-)

Actually over 1.5 million among 95/100/200/1000CX/700 were
made. (I had to go numeric here, because I had no cute comment
along the line of prior stuff :) ..)

I agree with all that you said. We may have a problem getting
repiars, I assume the warranties will remain in force (HP
won't take the risk of cancelling them though they could...)
There are repair venues now, but I suspect their numbers will
dwindle and the cost to us will likely rise with less
competition. Well if they do a good job and fix the darn thing
(whatever is broken) than the expense is not unjustified.

The flood I am not sure about. I expected the flood of used
200LXs to come out about a year after the WinCE came out. I
did not see this. So either the marketing failed to reach, or
the WinCEs were soooo bad even marketing could not shove them
out the channels, or ? Most likey it is the latter "?": People
may have hung on to their devices despite a corporate "WinCE
standard"... Or the companies sold them internally.

I am not sure really where have all the *00LXs gone...

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

PS: Lastly, the one we are left with at leasts reboots with
three fingers, not some secret spot you must push with a
foreign object! :)

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:12:04 EDT
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In a message dated 7/9/99 10:12:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:

>  Are they going to make sure loyal HP customers/ex-200LX'ers have the
>  software they need?

John, I hope you feel better after your rant.  I enjoyed reading it.  Imagine
the effrontery of promoting a machine on the basis that you can run your DOS
software and carry your data anywhere with it, inducing people to rely upon
that platform, and then telling them en masse that their programs and data
are no good anymore, but here's a jazzy little color screen to keep them
happy.  This is even worse than industry's move from supporting DOS to
supporting Windows almost exclusively, if that is possible.  Windows at least
allows you to run your DOS software, make use of your files, your finely
tuned macros your own personal software development projects --  WinCE does
not; it shuts you out in all of these categories..The baby is thrown out with
the bathwater.

Outside of the palmtop community, I don't know how many people in the
computer world or the consumer world generally will truly appreciate the
dramatic, wholesale abjuration of an entire genre of computing that the
discontinuation of the 200LX represents, or the threat that this same sort of
thing can easily recur in the case of the WinCEs and similar products whose
continuation depends solely upon the grace of a very small handful of
executive decisionmakers.

I go back to a suggestion I made a couple of weeks ago on this list.  Our
society has become so dependent upon information technology that we need
federal legislaton that will protect the legitimate expectations of consumers
and businesspeople in the life cycles of operating systems and computer
systems.  The growth of this industry has to be managed so as to benefit all,
and can no longer be left to laissez-faire economics.

-roger-

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:38:26 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi There!

Now when it's official that 200LX is going to be obsolete
(unfortunately), I guess some people on this list starts to think about
moving to another palmtop PC which has support. But I personally will
stick with my 200LX and even if no units will be manufactured after
November this year, there are no reason to stop using your 100/200LX
palmtop! Thanks to all the people involved in this palmtop- Dasoft,
Mack, Thaddeus etc, we will have great stuff available for many more
years.

But it's interesting to check what's available today and why we love the
100/200LX so much. Personally I feel that the size, weight, battery life
and the huge amount of applications makes 100/200LX what it's today. Not
to forget that it's a stable platform compared to other handheld
platforms. So if anyone is thinking about making a new "200LX", they
should go remeber one thing- Battery Life! There are many nice
sub-notebooks available today and they are powerful so you can install =
the
operating system you want- DOS, Linux, Windows 98 etc. But all these
units have one major problem- battery life!!!

Even if a PC is small and light, doesn't mean it's a true mobile PC. It
must be a combination of Size, weight and battery life combined with
power and available applications.

My personal dream is a 200LX type of Palmtop with the same size and
weight- but a 486 processor and VGA screen. The small PC Card PC's
available today could be something to use when you build your own
palmtop. But the major problem is- battery life!

Anyway, I found a web site talking about a module- GCAT-6000 which is a
14MHz AT performance processor, 1MB DRAM (up to 8MB), 640x200 CRT/LCD
graphics, two RS232 serial ports etc. They also have an additional
PCMCIA adaptor. I don't know if this unit has been discussed earlier and
have not checked any details. But the power consuption is right- 80mA!
http://www.dge.com.au/dsp/gcat6000.htm

Anyway, please go and buy a couple of more units of HP 200LX- can always =
be
good to have!!! :)

Regards,

Jorgen
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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:31:08 EST
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: 96 MB Upgrade, soon to be available

** Reply to note from Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> 07/09/99  4:45pm -0500

Wow, this is great. I hope it succeeds!!!! Time to start saving the pennies<g>.

John

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:31:09 EST
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Subject:      Re: Opinion

** Reply to note from Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM> 07/09/99  7:36pm -0500


> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, "Vempire" <vempire@NOSPAMbigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> İsnip¨
> > Still it is not enough to surf the internet, since I have to remove the
> > memory card in order to slide in my PCMCIA modem. There is no free software
> > that fits in the remaining 300KB to fully support HTML browsing and e-mail
> > handling.
> İsnip¨
>
> Well, your 200LX with 10MB flash card would be enough  to surf
> the Web if you used an external, battery-powered modem.

Doesn't HV and WWW/LX fit in 100k? Throw in PE for email and it's only 150k. Would that
work?

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:31:14 EST
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Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM

** Reply to note from Lynn M. Cavendish <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> 07/09/99  5:54pm EDT


> In a message dated 7/9/1999 04:39:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK writes:
>
> > I'm mild mannered and hate being flamed, but...
> >
> >  HP are NOT making a big mistake by discontinuing the 200LX any more than
> > your girlfiend was whem she dumped you for the nerd with pots of money.
> >
> Wonderfully well said.
>
> HP has the design complete, has the tooling and the suppliers, is hundreds of
> thousands of units down the learning curve, and has decided that there is not
> enough money to justify the continued production of our beloved LX.
>
> Now some of us think we can do better as an absolute start-up enterprise.  It
> seems to me that we are drunk on the smell of someone else's cork.  The list
> just identified 35 people who are interested in a web browser, but
> substantially less who were willing to pay for it.  I don't know how many

That's not bad there's only about a hundred active members so 1/3 are intersted.
Naturally most would like it for free. Sounds pretty good actually. Heck, I'd like one
for free too, so that would be my first choice but would pay for it if I had to<g>.

John

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Subject:      Re: GOOD news: the LX is discontinued

** Reply to note from Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU> 07/10/99 11:33am +10

> Why?
> because HP will be able to sold is technology to another compagny.
> It's just a dream, but I imagine a compagny making a new version of the LX
> 8o)

And a very good dream it is. I hope if someone does they keep the same
layout. It seems like an excellant niche for someone to take over. If what
Havre said is true, they wouldn't even have to work to sell them<g>.

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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)

** Reply to note from Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> 07/09/99  8:52pm -0400


> Fri,  9 Jul 1999 20:38:48 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 02h42m44s ago ...
> On Fri,  9 Jul 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:
>
> > In my heart of hearts, I have to agree with HP for cancelling the
> > 200 LX (et al), because of part availability, low sales, etc...
>
> Well, if the bottom line is the ONLY criterion, then, yeah, they're
> right.  But, I'm a middle-aged fogey who still puts some value on
> reputation.  HP once had the reputation for creativity, innovation and
> quality.  Now they're sticking the HP logo on pretty-much cookie-cutter
> wince boxes.  WHERE'S THE BEEF??
>

And you wonder how much of it is the bottom line. Just how bad are the sales? Could
HP DO anything to improve them? It seems more like restructing. The palmtop does not
fit in with what they sell anymore. Its not a calculator and it's not a desktop
companion (although it is, a much better one than the CE units, it doesn't NEED a
desktop) so where does it fit? Nowhere according to the corporate no-minds, so they
discontinue it probably because its not pulling in 200 percent. And they aren't smart
enough to realize the only reason its not pulling in bucu bucks is because its
falling behind the times. If it had a 486 and could use extended how long do you
think it would take for HV to handle things like java, and secure web pages. It
wouldn't be long I'd bet. If it had a backlight and lasted 20 hours on a pair of AA's
do you think many people would pick a color CE unit when they can't get any software
for the CE thing? Personally I like having a notebook that fits my shirt pocket, I am
smart enough to know how to use it, dexterious enough to be able to use it, a small
computer isn't for everyone but for those who can--its great. I say HP is screwing
up.

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** Reply to note from Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> 07/09/99  3:56pm -0400


> > lot of repeat business. Do you know if the HP case is poured?
> > How much could it possibly cost to make a couple of molds though<g>.
> Especially
> > with a couple good samples to go by? They could just copy the HP case.
> >
>
> $50K in hard steel, somewhat less in aluminum for a complete custom tool, at
> least. I haven't looked inside, so I'm not sure of the detail internally. I

Very pricey. Paying that much it would be nice to be able to produce at least
10000 units at a time. Maybe a person could buy the tool HP uses at a discount?
What about materials? Do you know what type of resin\plastic the case is made
from? It needs to be conductive doesn't it?

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In a message dated 7/10/99 8:39:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jorgen@PALMTOP.NET writes:

> Anyway, I found a web site talking about a module-

(Buried 33 paragraphs down in his homily for the HP200LVS)

Jorgen, you are The Man.  You are The One.  What an interesting find!  Sure
looks like it could fly.

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I'll take a copy if you have it.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Subject:      Fluff: Alterations to the 200LX

As long as people are posting on improvements<g>, what I'd like to to
see is a thinner 200LX. It seems like everything considered replacing
it that keeps the same power is always larger even with new
technologies like thin-film, improvements on battery power, and chip
design. That's not much of an advance in technology now is it<g>? But a
thinner, lighter 200LX that kept everything else the same would be a
real improvement. Maybe down to the width of a couple AA's?

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** Reply to note from Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> 07/10/99  8:38pm +0800

Jorgen

That was very well said. The 200LX would not be half of what it is without the
battery life. It seems with the prevailence of power sources people just don't
realize how important it is until they run out.

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Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:45:28 -0400 (EDT)

04h19m42s ago ...
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> 9600 is ok. Leads me to believe that the port is incapable of
> supporting a higher rate, ergo, cannot set it up to what it
> cannot support.
>
> Imagine a speedometer going to 350kph on a Subaru Justy, or a
> Renault 2CV. Ridiculous image, no? :)

Yeah, the image IS ridiculous...  But the built-in datacomm allows
setting up to 115200.  With X-Finder and XFS I can transfer files
between palmtops at about 6KB/sec (actual, measured speed) - so thats a
real-world average transfer rate (including overhead) of 60000 bps.

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> In a message dated 7/9/99 8:54:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, driden@STLNET.COM
> writes:
>
> >
> >  HP used to be an engineering company . . .  they became
> >  a marketing company
>
> Well, I've been following the replies, and I both agree and sorta disagree
> with this.  First of all, according to the comments of HP's marketing manager
> in The New York Times, the palmtops were still selling without any work on
> his part (which we already knew was the case <g>).  I think they simply made
> a decision to focus solely on the corporate market, and to forget
> professional groups and individuals.  The WinCE handheld is a device that is

I think what everybody is forgetting is what Hal mentioned and seems to
be supported by other info we've seen here.

The parts are going to be in short supply sooner than later.  HP is
probably making decisions based on its need to fix/repair/replace units
and keeping the part supply at a reasonable level to accomplish this.

Further, I guess I don't see any chance the platform will be revived.
HP is not going to sell the rights - it would compete to some degree
with what they now want to sell.  Yeah, I know most claim they will
never touch another HP product.  I don't believe that.  Maybe it won't
be this generation of win-ce but another or another product.  And again,
we have an eventual parts shortage of critical elements - a third party
will be in no better position in this regard.

I would love to have seen the threads when Radio Shack killed off their
100 (was it?) portable.  I'm sure much of this is a carbon copy.

I believe the only hope will follow from the things MACK has
accomplished - keep shoving more into the existing boxes we already own.
I hope that some faster "bigger" cpu could replace the trusty 186 so
that I could run DV or Win3.1/95.  But then I will probably be able to
also heat my lunch on it and buy shares in a battery company.

In the vein of things that maybe: Can Vaughan Pratt's tiny device be
adapted to the HP shell?

MACK, I would imagine you've looked over this and other ideas?

I'd like a prior/preemptive easy fix to the hinge issue for my next
HP200.  Maybe I will try getting into the lid and reinforcing the
plastic in advance besides oiling the hinge pin.

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** Reply to note from F. Kaufman <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> 07/10/99  2:01pm +0000


> > In a message dated 7/9/99 8:54:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, driden@STLNET.COM
> > writes:
> >
> > >
> > >  HP used to be an engineering company . . .  they became
> > >  a marketing company
> >
> > Well, I've been following the replies, and I both agree and sorta disagree
> > with this.  First of all, according to the comments of HP's marketing manager
> > in The New York Times, the palmtops were still selling without any work on
> > his part (which we already knew was the case <g>).  I think they simply made
> > a decision to focus solely on the corporate market, and to forget
> > professional groups and individuals.  The WinCE handheld is a device that is
>
> I think what everybody is forgetting is what Hal mentioned and seems to
> be supported by other info we've seen here.
>
> The parts are going to be in short supply sooner than later.  HP is
> probably making decisions based on its need to fix/repair/replace units
> and keeping the part supply at a reasonable level to accomplish this.

How often do they have to fix these though? I have two and they are both in good shape.
I can't believe they are having such an influx of repairs it is dragging down the
profit ratios to such an extent they aren't making anything. Plus most of the cost in
parts is setup and tooling fees. Material costs are small compared to those. HP has
probably paid those off many years ago and is just living on the proceeds. Since they
have such a large infrastructre other costs could easily be ignored since they'll need
them for other products anyway. They haven't done any development on the 200LX in years
so where's the cost in that?

>
> Further, I guess I don't see any chance the platform will be revived.
> HP is not going to sell the rights - it would compete to some degree
> with what they now want to sell.  Yeah, I know most claim they will
> never touch another HP product.  I don't believe that.  Maybe it won't
> be this generation of win-ce but another or another product.  And again,
> we have an eventual parts shortage of critical elements - a third party
> will be in no better position in this regard.

A third party could if the infrastructure was there to handle it. There should be a few
year grace period before any of that would be noticeable and if prepreations were
started now then there wouldn't be any noticable lack. The question is there enough of
a demand for this to happen. I don't think there would be if the 200LX remains a static
unit, but if improvents were made such as continual memory upgrades, backlighting,
maybe a processor upgrade why couldn't it continue?

>
> I would love to have seen the threads when Radio Shack killed off their
> 100 (was it?) portable.  I'm sure much of this is a carbon copy.

Did it have a following like the LX? I almost bought one a few years ago, it was pretty
nifty. It had an 8808 though and I was looking for a 386 at the time. I think this ties
in with the 200LX. The 186 will turn people away while if it had at least a 486 people
would still be interested.

>
> I believe the only hope will follow from the things MACK has
> accomplished - keep shoving more into the existing boxes we already own.
> I hope that some faster "bigger" cpu could replace the trusty 186 so
> that I could run DV or Win3.1/95.  But then I will probably be able to
> also heat my lunch on it and buy shares in a battery company.
>
> In the vein of things that maybe: Can Vaughan Pratt's tiny device be
> adapted to the HP shell?

What device is this?

John

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40m07s ago ...
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, F. Kaufman wrote:

> Yeah, I know most claim they will
> never touch another HP product.  I don't believe that.  Maybe it won't
> be this generation of win-ce but another or another product.

Just speaking for myself, this isn't a boycott of HP, but a refusal to
pay for the HP logo on products without HP innovation.  The logo by
itself means little.  The HP label at one time was a symbol of unique,
creative products.  When HP's legendary innovation returns, I'll
probably buy again.

> I would love to have seen the threads when Radio Shack killed off their
> 100 (was it?) portable.  I'm sure much of this is a carbon copy.

Probably.  But now RS is selling other brands of computers, and no more
unique devices...


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>>This is a low power NEC V50 processor (80186 clone) with Vadem's own
PCMCIA
>>and peripherals on a single chip.
>Shouldn't the machine at least run protected mode?


*At least* it should do the same as the 200LX

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>Aha!!! Explains it all. I believe in Turkish (correct me
>someone who knows better!)  the word "bay" means something
>like "king" or "important person". So E-Bay works out. Just
>curiosity - why use the tuekish word? :-)


Bay is 'Mister' in Turkish. Bayan is 'Lady'.

-goe-

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>How do I get both to run at the same time?

When you are in PE, press Ctrl-Enter to start PIM.

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> > http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/08geek.html

Got it! Thanks...

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Don,

> I would never sugest a "closed door" policy to software development.  I agree
> with you, the consumers need must be heard.

I am glad we think alike in this. I am simply concerned how
many people will bother to join a special newsgroup for the
purpose of browser discussion.

I believe this is not an open group, it requires an id and
password. Of course, everyone who wishes can sign up.

Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Lynn M. Cavendish writes:

<< Now some of us think we can do better as an absolute
start-up enterprise.  It seems to me that we are drunk on the
smell of someone else's cork. >>

ROFL - what a colorful image.

<< The list just identified 35 people who are interested in a
web browser, but substantially less who were willing to pay
for it. >>

Seems like 36 use HV, and 35 want it updated. 35 are willing
to pay for the upgrade, so that is 100% i.e. all that want to
update it are willing to pay. Assuming of course that those
who want to update are the same 35 who are alos willing to pay
something for it.

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> Circuits articles (where the HP200lx obit appeared) are free even from
> archive.  You won't have to pay to look at this article.

Not to belabour this too much: I searched for the article
after I could not see it in the Circuits link. The search
found it for me, and gave me the option to buy it. Maybe you
experience this differently, I concede... I have used the NYT
site a lot, and it always wants me to buy the articles...

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> Holy crap!

Only if there is WinCE material in it.

> that's a lotta megabytes!

Question is "how do you back up that thing?

Another question: It used to be 64MB was the limit. Now that
wall tumbled. What's next? 256M machine? Soon 200LXs can be
marketed as an Encyclopedia, Library, etc. -

A bit rich, but not unreasonable at all!

Mack, how is the power aspect of this upgrade? (I know, you
did not pay me to plant the question :-¨, but here it is
anyway...)

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<< Thanks to a quick-thinking news.hplx.net user,>>

Wonder who that may be :-) ...

<<  I'd prefer not to forward it to the list, due to the fact
that they might bust me for some sort of copyright
violation. >>

If they sue and win, you'll be punished to spend 90 days using
WinCE machines to write messages with a lot of diacritics
(umlauts, accents etc.) in them :) ... After dinner, 1 hour of
manually connecting to your ISP over and over again. :)

The release date will be an appointment in another timezone!
:-) --- there - adequate punishment for heinous crimes..
(Thanks, BTW)

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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Mack, how is the power aspect of this upgrade? (I know, you
> did not pay me to plant the question :-¨, but here it is
> anyway...)

The power seems to be less than any of the >8MB upgrades.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:10:39 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Folks:

A BIG change is the addition - officially - of PIM/LX.
I will also add some screenshots, but not right away... (give
me a break, I want to work less than 12 hours a day on my
vacation :-) ...)

Some small ongoings in our Webpage:

- Repackaged the WWW/LX Plus Version 2 product - Now you can
  d/l each components separately.

  - To go online you'll need to d/l WWW21.EXE - a self
    extracting archive with WWW.EXE and other related files.
  - To use the email client, you need POST22.EXE a self
    extracting archive with POST.EXE, NEWS2.EXE and other
    related files.

  Other copyrighted freeware clients are available, such as
  HV22.EXE, FTP.ZIP, TELNET.ZIP, GET.ZIP, etc.

- A small update to HV - fixed some bugs, esp. with indexing.
- A small update to WWW.EXE - fixed some hanging rare bugs.

Let me know if I can help with anything, or if there is a
problem with these changes.

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:22:16 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      FLUFF: Re: NY Times Article
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On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> If they sue and win, you'll be punished to spend 90 days using WinCE
> machines to write messages with a lot of diacritics (umlauts, accents
> etc.) in them :) ... After dinner, 1 hour of manually connecting to
> your ISP over and over again. :)
> The release date will be an appointment in another timezone! :-) ---
> there - adequate punishment for heinous crimes.. (Thanks, BTW)

Maybe if I cooperate and behave well during the trial I could opt for 50
years hard labor instead.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:09:19 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: A TRUE 200LX SUCCESSOR?
Comments: To: Feinmanr@aol.com
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Roger,

> > Anyway, I found a web site talking about a module-
>
> (Buried 33 paragraphs down in his homily for the HP200LVS)
>
> Jorgen, you are The Man.  You are The One.  What an interesting find!  =
Sure
> looks like it could fly.

Thanks!!! I do not promote this PCB solution, but it's for sure one
interesting solution. I used Altavista (www.altavista.com) and searched
for '+Worlds +smallest +PC' and found it.

Long live HP 200LX!


Regards,


Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:03:42 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alberto Martin Lombardia <albertom@BIPV02.BI.EHU.ES>
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From:         Alberto Martin Lombardia <albertom@BIPV02.BI.EHU.ES>
Subject:      FS: Drive100  US$120
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For sale:       a Drive100

Description:    It's a 3.5" floppy disk drive that connects to the serial port of a
                Hp100/200. It has rechargeable batteries built-in for portable use.
                It reads and writes 720Kb and 1.44Mb MsDOS formatted diskettes.

                It's in good working condition. I don't have the original box, nor the
                AC charger (any 9Volts, 1 Ampere will work), but I keep the user's guide
                and the device driver software.

Price:          I ask US$120 (it includes p&p).


                Bye,
                                Alberto

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:15:00 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, hpstaber@CSI.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: initialization string help
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John Carlo,

> if I type this string at the DOS prompt I get 'bad command or file
> name'...where is this string useful?

I do not recall your original problem but will guess : you need a
working intialization string for your modem. It's not a DOS command -
it belongs to a communication program.

A very short one is     AT&F

A more elaborate is     AT&F&C1&D2

One that helps in hotels is AT&F&X3

These init strings are used in communication programs and scripts and
you should be able to understand the command by looking into the doc's
of your modem. After this init string the modem is activated and ready
to accept the next command which typically is the telephone number that
you want it to dial.

The init string has to be entered into the "Modem initialization
string" field of your datacom software setup. In the case of WWW/LX you
have to go to the directory of this program and type wwwsetup/enter and
then again setup/enter. This brings you to your loggin setups where you
enter the string into the appropriate field.



HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 03:10:46 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      BUY A 200LX IN ASIA PACIFIC...
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Hi All HP 95/100200LX users in Asia Pacific!

I can't guarantee anything, but I would like to help you out if
possible.....(If you reply to me privately).

Are you a 95/100/200LX palmtop owner in Asia Pacific and thinking about
buying another unit or so since HP DOS Palmtop PC's will be
discountinued in November 1999? If you are and can not find it any store
in Asia Pacific- Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Australia, =
New
Zealand, China, Philippines etc. Please let me know and I MAY (or MAY
NOT, depending where you are..) be able to advice you who you should
contact for an order of HP 200LX  Palmtop PC.

Of personal experience I know that many retail stores in Asia Pacific
unfortunately inform their customers that it is not possible to buy a HP
200LX Palmtop PC anymore. But that's wrong! You will often hear this
statement in Asia Pacific since the retail stores can not sell this DOS
palmtop and have moved to selling the HP Jornada Handheld PC's. This
since that is what the customers ask for (belive it or not!). Anyway,
this message is not sent to once again create a marketing discussion,
but to try to help.

So as I mentioned, if you are in Asia Pacific and do not know who to
contact for an order of HP 200LX palmtop, please send me a private
message to: wallgren@singnet.com.sg and I will try my best to help you
out and advice who to contact. But as I said, I do not guarantee
anything!

If you have an order in mind which is for your company and would like
to buy HP 200LX/1000CX in high quantities- please you can also contact
me for advice.

So if you want me to take your message seriously, please send it to my
private e-mail address and not to the list!!! My address is:
wallgren@singnet.com.sg


Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:16:50 -0500
Reply-To:     owensam@hom.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
Subject:      Re: 96 MB Upgrade, soon to be available

Man, this is proof of the popularity (and usefulness) of the 200lx. Where else will you find a company willing to sell an upgrade like this to users of a piece of equipment which will be discontinued by the manufacturer in 3 months.

Long live the 200lx!

Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson KU4ET
Macon, Georgia, USA
http://www.hom.net/~owensam

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:30:03 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Milles Bornes
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On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> I don't know of any for CGA.  I have an excellent version that
> requires at least EGA or maybe VGA.

Hmm... sounds like a great opportunity here.  <g>  Can anybody do graphics
of the cards in a C / C++ usable format?  I know Curtis Cameron has some
pre-built files on his site, but those are regular cards and not the cards
used in this game.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:43:18 EST
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Using a pager with the LX

Does anyone know if there are low power pager pcmcia cards out? I heard
you can get email messages on pagers now and thought that would be
something that would work great with the LX since you could get full
sized messages and since it can stay on for a full day. Anyone know if
this is possible...? Thanks.

John

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:35:18 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, qman@EARTHLINK.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Looking for a PNR, ccLXPOP redial script/batch file.
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It appears that Earthlink here in Las Vegas has grown, been getting a lot
of busy signals lately.

I need to some how add an automatic redial to epppd. So if somebody has already
done this , please forward me a copy of your setup.

Any help would be appreciated!

Regards,

Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.05

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:15:39 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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From:         "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
Organization: Orion Enterprises
Subject:      FLUFF: For users of PAF
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For those who use Personal Ancestral File:

There is a new version of PAF.  Version 4.0.

Downloadable for free from
http://www.familysearch.org/OtherResources/paf4/

(FOR WINDOZE ONLY!  GRRRRRR!)

(First the 200lx is discontinued, then the Libretto, and now this...
oh, well)

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:47:34 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Cavendishl@AOL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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In a message dated 7/9/1999 11:49:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Feinmanr@aol.com writes:

>
>  They gave us too much, and then they took it away.
>
>
This is exactly the point.  Big bureaucracies (business and government) have
hated the stand-alone PC's from the beginning.  Its harder to assimilate you
when you have stand-alone capacity.


Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:48:35 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Cavendishl@AOL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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In a message dated 7/10/1999 11:33:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sponsor@FTEL.NET writes:

> Seems like 36 use HV, and 35 want it updated. 35 are willing
>  to pay for the upgrade, so that is 100% i.e. all that want to
>  update it are willing to pay.
Well, yes.  You are including the people willing to pay $10 or less.  Even if
all 35 were willing to pay the $80 top price mentioned, you'd only gross
$2,800.  That won't buy many Source Lines Of Code.

Lynn

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:24:35 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Feinmanr@AOL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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In a message dated 7/10/99 5:50:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Cavendishl@aol.com writes:

> Its harder to assimilate you
>  when you have stand-alone capacity.

Yes, so I've been told many times.  Story of my life.<GGG>

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:26 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Another possible HP200LX replacement on the horizon?
Comments: To: I Dean <hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Ian Dean <hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> I'm currently working on getting the CPACK (HP Connectivity Pack)
> to work properly under XTCE. As far as I see it, XTCE with CPACK is
> pretty close to a HP200LX (minus Lotus 1-2-3 and Quicken). Is this
> correct?

Yes.  That would be very good if you could get the CPACK to
run with your XTCE emulator.  The CPACK could then handle all
of the phone files, GDB files, etc that we would use on the
200LX.

You are correct that Lotus and Pocket Quicken are not in the
CPACK.

Thank you for all of your hard work to make the XTCE emulator.
 You have achieved a great accomplishment.  I didn't think it
could be done.  Thanks for proving me wrong.


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:29 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Demise of HP200
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Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> * HP200s are robust & long lasting. Yours will serve you
> well for years to come. Replacing it in 5 years time with the
> spare you buy now is a lot cheaper than upgrading a CE machine
> every 6 months

You make some very good points.  Think about it from HP's
standpoint.  They sell you a 200LX, AC adapter and CPACK but
then you don'y buy anything else from them for many, many
years.  All the rest of the business involving the 200LX is
from small third party vendors.  In other words, when HP sells
a 200LX, there is no repeat business because the 200LX lasts
so darn long <grin>

As far as HP is concerned, a 200LX sale is a one shot deal
with only a small profit margin.  This is because the 200LX is
a very stable and mature product after only the third version
(95/100/200).  HP does not feel that it can go anywhere else
with this platform.  It is old technology that will not sell
well in this day and age.

The WinCE machines, on the other hand, are a new technology
with Microsoft's blessing and marketing and name.  Every other
week, a new product comes out and there is lots and lots of
action in this market.  This is where any company on earth
will want to sell to.  They don't care if the machines are a
pain in the butt and the users are frustrated.  These days,
users are willing to accept crappy computer hardware and
software.

I remember when the 95, then 100, then 200LX each came out.
We who bought them were called gadget freaks.  We had to have
the latest toy to play with - kind of like dating.  Well, it
seems that we have all grown up and are now settled down with
a platform that we really like, are comfortable with, and want
to stay with for a long time - kind of like a marriage.

I will be buying another brand new, 32MB DS 200LX from
Thaddeus to use an my new primary machine because this one I
have now is getting quite worn out.  Then I expect to continue
to use this platform for many years until it just cannot do
for me what it is doing now - for whatever reason.


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:32 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)
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Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> 400 Mhz Laptops are below $1000 now, how
> much will the *general market* pay for an 8 Mhz XT with some
> DOS software bundled?

Exactly!  People are tuned into big MHz numbers.  They just
cannot believe that anything useful can be done with less than
a PII at 400 MHZ.


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:34 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Making a replacement for the 200
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Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:

> USB should be the key to all the periferals.  You can daisy chain all =
the
> extras w/o a drain to the batteries

USB in a new palmtop could be a problem.  The USB spec calls
for the upstream device to be able to supply 500 ma to the
downsteam device.  The palmtop would never be able to do this
from batteries.  You would need the requirement that the
palmtop USB plugs into a USB hub that is self powered (not bus
powered) and therefore the hub would need a wall wart.

The way around this might be that the USB of the palmtop is
only usable when the palmtop is powered with the AC adapter.
Now too bad of a restriction.

Aside from the above, I feel that a USB port on the new
palmtop is a very good idea.  I have been playing with USB
stuff lately, and I have used a USB/paralle adapter,
USB/serial adapter, USB-USB network adapter that allows two
computers to for a network with USB.  I am going to try a
USB-to-10Mbs LAN adapter next.

Actually, it just occured to me that the USB devices I have
tried all came with Windows 98 drivers.  I don't know the
details, but I think there would be major trouble making
palmtop drivers for all the USB devices


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:38 -0400
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Subject:      Making a replacement for the 200
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Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> wrote:

> What advantage do you get from running DOS in protected mode?

I am not sure if this requires protected mode or what, but the
new machine should be able to support the HMA and UMB and
Extended memory so that drivers and TSR's can be loaded high.

Also, I would like the new palmtop to be multi-tasking.  It
would be so cool to be able to fetch Email in the background
while doing PIM stuff (or whatever) in the foreground.


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:40 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Milles Bornes
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M Cordrey <mcordrey@PERL.SDSU.EDU> wrote:

> I had a shareware version that ran great on my XT so I assume
> that it would run on the LX. I probably still have it on a
> 5in floppy somewhere. If you want I will try to locate it

Yes.  I am a long time Milles Bornes fan and would like to try
it on the palmtop.  Thanks.


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:17:45 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      PKZIP for backup
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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> There was a report a while back
> that the -ex option caused ZIP files to become corrupt more frequently
> than regular compression, but I haven't seen it happen myself so I
> wouldn't know

I ALWAYS use the  -ex  option for maximum compression and I
have never had any trouble with it.  I really don't see how it
could be more prone to corruption than the other PKZIP
algorithms with less compression.


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:42:53 EDT
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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In a message dated 7/10/99 7:18:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stanleyd@CARROLL.COM writes:

>  They don't care if the machines are a
>  pain in the butt and the users are frustrated.  These days,
>  users are willing to accept crappy computer hardware and
>  software.

Stan, I was a bit taken aback to see my own unspoken sentiments expressed so
well in your words, and what a sad comment it is on the present state of our
culture.    However, I have hopes that the Internet will ultimately be our
salvation.  This isn't a sparsely populated private forum on AOL, CompuServe,
or Prodigy, etc.  The comments of THESE users are available directly to to
larger online world, including the press, so that, hopefully, people will be
able to make up their own minds.  Sadly, it won't make a difference any
longer with respect to the 200LX.

-roger-

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:46:29 EDT
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I don't think corruption was a problem after PKZIP 2.04G.  I have not yet
played around with the latest upgrade.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:50:59 -0800
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>I need to some how add an automatic redial to epppd. So if somebody has
>already done this , please forward me a copy of your setup.


Thanks to John Musieiewicz, I now have a working redial batch file. (:-)


Regards,

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 7/10/1999 07:18:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stanleyd@CARROLL.COM writes:

> They don't care if the machines are a
>  pain in the butt and the users are frustrated.

No, no, no.  They love that.  There's nothing better than a big installed
base who things that a bug fix is properly referred to as an "upgrade."

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:56:13 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> I ALWAYS use the -ex option for maximum compression and I have never
> had any trouble with it.  I really don't see how it could be more
> prone to corruption than the other PKZIP algorithms with less
> compression.

Same here... always use it, never had any trouble with it, and don't see
why it would be more problematic.  I think any reports to the contrary are
probably just coincidence.

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I would like to hv a copy too.

TIA

Roger S.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:51:41 EDT
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Well?  WELL?

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:29:08 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 Feinmanr@aol.com wrote:

> Well?  WELL?

Hey, cut me some slack.  My Transdigital parallel card has yet to arrive.
<g>

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:28:56 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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From:         Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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>> 400 Mhz Laptops are below $1000 now, how much will the *general market*
>>pay >> for an 8 Mhz XT with some DOS software bundled?
>
> Exactly!  People are tuned into big MHz numbers.  They just cannot believe
> that anything useful can be done with less than a PII at 400 MHZ.

And they are RIGHT, if that machine is running Windows!!

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:52:05 EDT
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In a message dated 7/10/99 9:32:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> Hey, cut me some slack.  My Transdigital parallel card has yet to arrive.

Slack you can have.  I just wanted you to know that I pay attention (i.e., I
was just cleaning out my e-mail). :-|)

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From:         Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM>
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Hi All,

I think all this talk about a replacement will be handled very nicely by
someone coming up with a battery that lasts forever.

That's where the technology is the weakest, isn't it?

If there was a battery that lasted ten times the length of what we have
now, they'd make a useful machine the size of an HPLX that does all it
does and lots more.

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:07:52 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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There's been a lot of discussion about building a "super" palmtop.  Of
course that's a possibility, but another option is to locate someone making
a palmtop-sized computer that will at least run DOS programs and either get
one of those off-the-shelf or, as a group effort, persuade them there is a
market for them to sell upgraded "palmtops."

A year or so ago I recall seeing some adds/descriptions in some computer
catalogs (PC Connection? TigerSoftware?) about some mini-computers slightly
larger than the HPx00LX (perhaps about Poquet-sized) with 386 or 486
processors.

Does anyone have any info on these or remember them?

Has anyone searched for any non-WinCE "palmtops?"  Such as
PC 110?
Dauphin?

I believe I remember a note about the PC 110 being available only in Japan.
 Perhaps there is a way to arrange to get one of them?

Did anyone follow-up on the below email?

Just trying to generate a useful altenative for those folks needing one.

=======
Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:42:10 -0500
From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Refurbished HP 320LX to DOS Palmtop

If you want a 486 palmtop try one the IBM PC 110's. They can boot and run
right from a flash card and are only a little bit bigger than an LX. I
believe there are other small 486's from Dauphin and another manufacturers.
There was a company selling a VHS cassette sized 486 with CGA and 4MB RAM
and MS Works built in. I forgot what these were called but they ran off of 2
AA batteries and had a 386 or 486 chip.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:09:12 GMT
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Subject:      (none)

I think it is amazing that those on the list so easily forget that
the HP LX series has always had a Palmtop centric design
competitor: Psion. The CE and Palm OS machines are built around the
desktop while the HP LX series and the EPOC 32 (Psion) are palmtop-
centric. Now I wish that the HP series had won the battle. There is
many a DOS program that I will miss going to the Psion but I
won't go the route of the Palm OS or CE. I like having all my info
on the Palmtop and endorsing the Palm OS or CE solutions defeats
the purpose of having all info and applications on the Palmtop.

Going the subnotebook route is losing way because of the short
battery life and long boot times. If you want to go that route I
think the best solution is waiting for Psion's netBook which is
expected out sometime in the fourth quarter of this year. That
model will be an EPOC 32 design in something looking like HP's
large Jornada model.

Now before people flame me I don't work for Psion. I orignally
owned a HP 95 and now I own a HP 200.

Now I may be backing the wrong horse against CE. I have heard that
Palm is going to beef up their operating system. However I can't
imagine that they'll endorse any change that will go against their
desktop centric design.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:43:04 EDT
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Subject:      Dead HP95

   Someone posted recently searching for a dead HP95 with a good video
display. I have acquired one for $25. I will forward this for the $25
plus postage to the interested party.
                                                           Cheers,
                                                           Bob Perron

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Subject:      Back from the Dead

   My 2 meg 200 HP-LX died. Fresh batteries did not recover it, nor
recharging the rechargeables in it at the time of its demise.
   About the same time someone posted the nearly identical situation and
asked for help. He was advised that sometimes. . .sometimes. .
.absolutely fresh AA's with an absolutely fresh cr2032 followed by the
hard boot-RAM initializing sequence (ALT-CTRL-LEFT SHIFT ARROW-ON) will
bring the palm back.
   Oh, Frabjous Day! Kaloo-Kalay! It worked. Thank you all very much. My
backup HP-200 was down approximately 200 data entries, but that was
nothing. . .an hour or two from sound hard copies and I was back on the
road. . .but I was preparing to grumpily send my "broken" palm in to
Thaddeus for repairs. . .yet again. . .having sent it in once already to
fix the display screen. . .having acquired the vertical lines on the left
hand side syndrome. Which have returned as well.
   Any thoughts from the hardware gurus on what I can do about the
vertical lines? I'm more inclined to tackle this myself now that I have
acquired a backup machine.
   But again, a HUGE THANK YOU to the list for your collective wisdom.
                                                            Cheers,
                                                             Bob Perron

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop?

   >I've wondered from time-to-time why it is that IBM and Lotus never
   >stepped into the handheld computer market after it became apparent
   >that HP did not intend to upgrade the 200LX.
Message-Id: <19990711065711.PYSV2808@İ12.72.154.126¨>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:57:11 +0000

   >Besides 1-2-3 and cc:Mail, most of our LX PIM apps are vaguely
   >descended from Lotus Metro, so there is certainly a well of
   >experience there.  And if they were to mount a competitive product,
   >they could easily outclass the WinCE bunch by providing for
   >compatibility with both DOS and WIndows apps. Anybody have any
   >insight into why they never tackled this area?

My guess... they lost all the people who knew anything about it (designers,
marketers, programmers and visionaries), to attrition and downsizing, etc.

With the crazy cost cutting of recent years and the scramble to provide
customers with the lowest price, the bottom line has probably eroded away
the luxury of a maintaining a competent technical base.

The innovative powerhouses of yore are now just a ghost of what they were.

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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: PKZIP for backup

   >> There was a report a while back
   >> that the -ex option caused ZIP files to become corrupt more
   >>frequently  than regular compression, but I haven't seen it happen
   >>myself so I  wouldn't know
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:57:17 +0000

   >I ALWAYS use the  -ex  option for maximum compression and I
   >have never had any trouble with it.  I really don't see how it
   >could be more prone to corruption than the other PKZIP
   >algorithms with less compression.

Whatsamatta Stan, didn't you ever watch Johnny Mnemonic.  Don't you know
all that high data compression will result in leakage <g> ?

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Hi friends,

did anyone here see the film 'the Matrix' (Was this the English name?
In Germany the film is called 'Die Matrix')?

For those who did:

What happened if all this was _true_ and if MS wrote the whole Matrix?
;-)

It's funny to imagine what would happen in this world - a fatal error
around the next corner, a blue screen that appears immediately before
your eyes and disappears only when you do a hard reset of the world...

But seriously - isn't it terrible? I think if the AI is developed, I
mean a _real_ AI, something like this _could_ be true: The AI gets
independant and makes the mankind its slave.
In the film there were a lot of exaggerations, of course. But the
essentials are imaginable.

What do you think?

GTX
morpheus ;-)

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Hi friends (especially Mack ;-) ),

is it possible to put the 2 MB daughterboard that I took out of my 4MB
200 LX (I upgraded it to 6 MB) into the 2 MB 100 LX of my brother to
upgrade it to 3 MB?

TNX
daniel

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Donald Collins wrote:
>
> A scaled down version of OS2 would be a far better alternative to WinCE IMHO.
>
> Don.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> ...Besides 1-2-3 and cc:Mail, most
> of our LX PIM apps are vaguely descended from Lotus Metro, so there is
> certainly a well of experience there.
>
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DON! I agree with you 100%

 I wish IBM could market like Gates & company

 but anyway os/2 Is still the only good OS UOT THERE NOT COUNTING LINUX

            BOB ELLIOTT JR.
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> What happened if all this was _true_ and if MS wrote the whole Matrix?
> ;-)

Not possible! Time goes fast and it did not crash since the last boot
(big bang), which is quite some time ago.

> In the film there were a lot of exaggerations, of course. But the
> essentials are imaginable.

Maybe they are here! ;-)

Andreas, who liked that movie a lot

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In a message dated 7/11/99 12:03:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hart@CATHOLIC.ORG writes:

> I think it is amazing that those on the list so easily forget that
>  the HP LX series has always had a Palmtop centric design
>  competitor: Psion.

You make a very good point about the design philosophies of these products.
I know people who are doing wonderful things with the Psion.  One network
administrator remotely runs his network with it, a programmer works out Perl
scripts.  The short answer, however, is that the palmtop's main attraction
was (and is) its emulation of the standard IBM PC/XT architecture and its
compatibility with MS-DOS apps and programming languages.

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In a message dated 7/11/99 2:57:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> My guess... they lost all the people who knew anything about it (designers,
>  marketers, programmers and visionaries), to attrition and downsizing, etc.

In Lotus' case, this is undoubtedly true of the pre-Notes generation of
products, and I don't know what I could have been thinking when I wrote that
line.  You want to see another classic example of this?  Try cruising the
lists that cater to XyWrite addicts and see if they can figure out what some
of the "reserved" function calls in the XPL macro programming language really
mean in the absence of definitive documentation for any version that was ever
released.  It's like trying to decipher hieroglyphics without a concordance.
OTOH, the software for a new palmtop that does what ours does would have to
be rewritten almost from the ground up, unless the decision was made to
simply tweak the same 16-bit DOS apps, which I doubt they would do.

Still, the more sniffing around that I do, the more obvious it seems that IBM
is very much interested in the mobile, handheld computing market, even if
there is no coherent strategy apparent.

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Avi,

> Question is "how do you back up that thing?

Very quick, using network. Same with my 64 + 4 MB, Takes about 5
minutes.


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** Reply to note from A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> 07/11/99 01:49am -0700

> > Doesn't HV and WWW/LX fit in 100k? Throw in PE for email and it's only 150k. Would that
> > work?
>
> On disk you can squeeze HV and WWW to about 150K. Pe takes
> more, but has no email capability on its own. You need Post/LX
> at a minimum of about 85K on disk. Just for email, you don't
> need HV.
>
> In memory, i.e. running memory needed, the numbers are
> different.

I use an early version of PE as my emailer from HV. Do you why Andreas decided to take that
out in later versions? What about PIM/LX? I have been playing with it. If you know, can I
use it to replace the phone book or does it just do appointments?

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** Reply to note from Don E. Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET> 07/10/99 10:07pm +0000


> There's been a lot of discussion about building a "super" palmtop.  Of
> course that's a possibility, but another option is to locate someone making
> a palmtop-sized computer that will at least run DOS programs and either get
> one of those off-the-shelf or, as a group effort, persuade them there is a
> market for them to sell upgraded "palmtops."
>
> A year or so ago I recall seeing some adds/descriptions in some computer
> catalogs (PC Connection? TigerSoftware?) about some mini-computers slightly
> larger than the HPx00LX (perhaps about Poquet-sized) with 386 or 486
> processors.

THis raises quite a serious question. Others have tried to build and sell small
handhelds with faster processors, like the prolinear, yet none have been very
successful in fact usually no one even remembers the name of the things when they
come up. Now HP is discontinuing the LX which was easily one of the top 5 sellers.
Why would a 200LX successor sell at all? Now certainly I would buy a successor if
it was at least as good as the 200LX, but would others? Why would so few people
want a small palmtop notebook like the 200LX?

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Subject:      Re: HP200 Replacement

Hi Y'all;
>There's been a lot of discussion about building a
 "super" palmtop.  >The PC 110 being available only in >Japan. >The IBM
PC 110's. They can boot and >run
>right from a flash card and are only a little bit bigger
than an LX. >they are other small 486's from Dauphin
and another >manufacturers.

The PC 110 is alive and well but (much) harder to
get than the LX because they're obsolete and far
away. It'll cost about $325 plus the cost of accessories.
$400+ 1GB Type III HD.   Hey it's 1GB.
They'll get only 2-7 hrs on batts. but hey it's a 486
that does w95 and the connectivity pack (I think).
There are a (very) few left at: EDECISIONS@aol.com
For other info go: Altavista, Geocities search: PC110.

yor pal al..........................................

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and other doomsday fluff.

>In Germany the film is called 'Die Matrix')?
>What happened if all this was _true_ and
if MS wrote the whole Matrix?
>;-)
We (the six billion) people encourage BIG BROTHER.
(As the American census started data processing
and we gained 5 billion people in the last 100 yrs.)

A couple eg: With email and ATM, In our lifetimes
we will get rid of paper money and snail mail.  If
you run afoul of our WORLD FEDERATED GOVT.
(SciFi Govt of the 50s).  All they gotta do is stop
yor mail and cut your economic cord.  There you are: Broke and
excommunicated. There will be control
of the internet, someday soon, count on it.  We start
with cops for teen porn to politics in some areas.

Sociology 101, is society an organism (World
 Federated Govt) or an aggregate of its parts?

yore pal al................................................

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Sharp built the Palm Executive
  Sharp Electronics Corp.
  Sharp Plaza
  Mahwah, NJ 07430-2135
  201-529-8200

Prolinear distributed PS-1000 and the PS-3000 (8086 & 80386 w/CGA)
  Alek M. Perlstein
  Sales & Marketing Mgr.
  150 N. Santa Anita Ave
  Suite 300
  Arcadia, CA 91008
  818-821-1881 x 348
  800-759-0881

Abstract R&D distributed the LC-8600 and LC-8620
  120 Village Square No.37
  Orinda, CA
  510-253-9588

EduCalc marketed the PTV-30 by Instant Tech

These were all Poquet sized machines running of AA's.

Might be worth a try to check these out.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
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"Don E. Weatherly" wrote:

> There's been a lot of discussion about building a "super" palmtop.  Of
> course that's a possibility, but another option is to locate someone making
> a palmtop-sized computer that will at least run DOS programs and either get
> one of those off-the-shelf or, as a group effort, persuade them there is a
> market for them to sell upgraded "palmtops."
>
> A year or so ago I recall seeing some adds/descriptions in some computer
> catalogs (PC Connection? TigerSoftware?) about some mini-computers slightly
> larger than the HPx00LX (perhaps about Poquet-sized) with 386 or 486
> processors.
>
> Does anyone have any info on these or remember them?
>
> Has anyone searched for any non-WinCE "palmtops?"  Such as
> PC 110?
> Dauphin?
>
> I believe I remember a note about the PC 110 being available only in Japan.
>  Perhaps there is a way to arrange to get one of them?
>
> Did anyone follow-up on the below email?
>
> Just trying to generate a useful altenative for those folks needing one.
>
> =======
> Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:42:10 -0500
> From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Refurbished HP 320LX to DOS Palmtop
>
> If you want a 486 palmtop try one the IBM PC 110's. They can boot and run
> right from a flash card and are only a little bit bigger than an LX. I
> believe there are other small 486's from Dauphin and another manufacturers.
> There was a company selling a VHS cassette sized 486 with CGA and 4MB RAM
> and MS Works built in. I forgot what these were called but they ran off of 2
> AA batteries and had a 386 or 486 chip.
>
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How does this programmer work out Perl scripts on a Psion?

If he just edits the scripts or logs in and edits them on a host, I've
been able to do that with the WinCE v1 machine I have.  For that matter,
I know several people who remotely run their networks with WinCE too.
WinCE really isn't a horrible solution (except for battery life) if you
just need to be a remote user of a greater resource (PC, network, etc.).
It just sucks if you need to do real work in the field without even an
electrical outlet to help you out.

Larry Zimmerman


On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:47:06 EDT Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> writes:

>You make a very good point about the design philosophies of these
>products.
>I know people who are doing wonderful things with the Psion.  One
>network
>administrator remotely runs his network with it, a programmer works
>out Perl
>scripts.  The short answer, however, is that the palmtop's main
>attraction
>was (and is) its emulation of the standard IBM PC/XT architecture and
>its
>compatibility with MS-DOS apps and programming languages.


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Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> wrote:
> What advantage do you get from running DOS in protected mode?

Through the services of a DOS extender, access to more memory, and
(with a '386 DOS extender) the ability to get and easily use
larger-than-64KB chunks of memory.

Personally I think the ability to have data objects larger than 64KB
(foo, larger than any amount that's likely to make extra work for the
programmer) is now important for the long-term success of a
general-purpose computing platform, maybe more important than MS-DOS
compatibility.  Users won't (directly) care, but application
developers will, and application availability for MS-DOS isn't going
to get better over time, especially not real-mode or
'286-protected-mode MS-DOS.

> > I would vote to not include Win3.x, what would be the advantage again?
>
> Gee wiz?

Is a Win3.x "clone" really a win?  I'm guessing that what they mean is
that they have a GUI environment with a Win3.x-like API, so you can
take Windows application source code and recompile it for their
platform, and hopefully you won't have to tweak it.  Well, supposing
you have their SDK.  I doubt it'll let you run J. Random pre-compiled
Windows application.

Even if it does, I think the Win3.1 application scene looks a lot like
the MS-DOS application scene did in 1995: only those who must or those
who really want to are doing it, and they'll give up as soon as they
think they can get away with it.

> well, a business case would need to be made, including some idea of
> volumes before anybody would touch this - established or not.

For the right machine, I'd be in up to about $1500 if it looked like I
could support it myself.  Get the tools needed to develop for it, buy
or build two so I'll have a spare to use while I'm fixing the other
one, and off I go.  But yeah, I'd rather buy from a company that will be
around to do repairs or at least supply replacement parts.

More on what that right machine is later.

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In a message dated 7/11/99 9:22:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, zimm4@JUNO.COM
writes:

> How does this programmer work out Perl scripts on a Psion?
>
>  If he just edits the scripts
. . .

Yes, he's that good.<g>  But I have the feeling that, since he moved to
within three blocks walking distance of his shop, he doesn't spend much time
doing this anymore.  I once tried showing him that you could work with Perl
4.x on the palmtop, but he was so in love with his Psion that I just got a
blank stare.


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Wasn't there one put out by Zeos several years back that had MS Works built
in?

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: The Matrix

   >But seriously - isn't it terrible? I think if the AI is developed, I
   >mean a _real_ AI, something like this _could_ be true: The AI gets
   >independant and makes the mankind its slave.
Message-Id: <19990711135603.UPBX4954@İ12.72.155.27¨>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:03 +0000

AI and computers in general are our tools, and it's important to keep that
in perspective and not become a slave to our tools.

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Subject:      Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop?

   >Still, the more sniffing around
   >that I do, the more obvious it seems that IBM is very much
   >interested in the mobile, handheld computing market, even if there
   >is no coherent strategy apparent.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:08 +0000

The interest is purely from a sales perspective.  Market segment = profit.
The issue is whether there's an interest in doing something for the "hell
of it"...because someone's got the balls and the brains to try something
unique.

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Subject:      Re: HP200 Replacement

   >would a 200LX successor sell at all? Now certainly I would buy a
   >successor if it was at least as good as the 200LX, but would
   >others? Why would so few people want a small palmtop notebook like
   >the 200LX?
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:13 +0000

The market is different than a few years ago. Look at the proliferation of
Pilots among non-techies.  Still, a successor to the 200LX that would
thrive (not just sit on the fringes) would have to be really a unique bit
of work.

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: The Matrix

   >(SciFi Govt of the 50s).  All they gotta do is stop
   >yor mail and cut your economic cord.  There you are: Broke and
   >excommunicated. There will be control
   >of the internet, someday soon, count on it.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:19 +0000

Y'all been watching too much Max Headroom.  Remember?  The only capital
crime left in the books was credit fraud and they tracked your every move
using your cards and logins.

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Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Stan, I was a bit taken aback
> to see my own unspoken sentiments expressed so well in your words

You scared me with the beginning of that sentence. <grin>  But
it had a happy ending.  Thanks.

> I have hopes that the Internet will ultimately be our salvation

Sadly, I think I disagree here.  It seems that these days,
when a large and diverse group gets together, the group
conscience tends to be lowered to the lowest common
denominator.  :-(  And the Internet seems to be the worst and
the mediocre of what the world has to offer.  Don't get me
wrong, there is lots of great stuff out on the Internet, but
there is also lots of junk.

I guess I am a skeptic.  I'm sorry if I depressed anyone.  :-)


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Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Whatsamatta Stan, didn't you ever watch Johnny Mnemonic.  Don't you =
know
> all that high data compression will result in leakage <g> ?

Hmmm ... maybe that explains the stain on the floor behind my
PC. <grin>


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> > Exactly!  People are tuned into big MHz numbers.  They just cannot =
believe
> > that anything useful can be done with less than a PII at 400 MHZ.
>
> And they are RIGHT, if that machine is running Windows!!

You and I know that, Jim.  But the vast array of lemmings that
buy computers these days think DOS is what the cavemen used to
use.  There were no windows in those caves.  And their icons
on the cave walls were so primitive - they were monochromatic
and didn't whirl and change shape.  <grin>


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In a message dated 7/11/99 9:57:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> The issue is whether there's an interest in doing something for the "hell
>  of it"...because someone's got the balls and the brains to try something
>  unique.

So, I assume what you're saying is, whether it's IBM or whoever,  the
attitude is going to have to be "If we build a better product, they will
come,"  instead of, "What do our market surveys tell us?"  There have been
men like that, e.g., Tucker, DeLorean . . . .

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:21:05 -0500
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> is it possible to put the 2 MB daughterboard that I took out of my 4MB
> 200 LX (I upgraded it to 6 MB) into the 2 MB 100 LX of my brother to
> upgrade it to 3 MB?

From what I can recall there is a pin on the connector that is connected to
ground on the 100LX and connected to Address line 9 on the 200LX.  This
would mean that you would have to remove that pin from the memoryboard and
run a wire to A9 on the processor.  This is all assuming that the ramdriver
will accept that combination.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:58:10 EDT
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The header says it all, folks.  E-mail? Wonderful.  Surfing the web on a
handheld?  Eh!  To be honest, I can do without it, whether it's in mono or
color.  But to search the databases of the world in a matter of minutes from
any telephone or wireless modem?  Now that would be an eye-opener!  That
would be serious friggin' kick-butt handheld computing!

Where is it?

-roger-

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> > is there any utility that's able to set the com port of the palmtop to
> > a given baud rate?
> >
> > I tried MODE COM1 BAUD=xxxxx, but that only works up to 9600 baud. I
> > need to set it to 115200. If I try this, mode says 'invalid parameter'.
>
> {600 is ok. Leads me to believe that the port is incapable of
> supporting a higher rate, ergo, cannot set it up to what it
> cannot support.
>
> Imagine a speedometer going to 350kph on a Subaru Justy, or a
> Renault 2CV. Ridiculous image, no? :)

The serial port can be set as high as 115K because that is the
connection speed when using Cpack/LapLink.  I guess you have to
write directly to the UART registers as Dos doesn't support fast
rates via the MODE command.

cheers... Russ

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<<From: F. Kaufman İmailto:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
I believe the only hope will follow from the things MACK has
accomplished - keep shoving more into the existing boxes we already own.
I hope that some faster "bigger" cpu could replace the trusty 186 so
that I could run DV or Win3.1/95.  But then I will probably be able to
also heat my lunch on it and buy shares in a battery company.>>

I agree.  I am hopeful that we will be able to make some very large buys of
used 200LX's from vertical resellers.  We'll see.

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** Reply to note from Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> 07/11/99 10:41am -0400

<Snip>

> Sadly, I think I disagree here.  It seems that these days,
> when a large and diverse group gets together, the group
> conscience tends to be lowered to the lowest common
> denominator.  :-(  And the Internet seems to be the worst and
> the mediocre of what the world has to offer.  Don't get me
> wrong, there is lots of great stuff out on the Internet, but
> there is also lots of junk.

If you judged the internet by this list, that lowest common denominator must be pretty
high<g>.

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** Reply to note from Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> 07/11/99 09:56am -0400


> >would a 200LX successor sell at all? Now certainly I would buy a
>    >successor if it was at least as good as the 200LX, but would
>    >others? Why would so few people want a small palmtop notebook like
>    >the 200LX?
> Message-Id: <19990711135613.UPCW4954@İ12.72.155.27¨>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:13 +0000
>
> The market is different than a few years ago. Look at the proliferation of
> Pilots among non-techies.  Still, a successor to the 200LX that would
> thrive (not just sit on the fringes) would have to be really a unique bit
> of work.

The LX would be tough to beat, its pretty unique!<g> I wonder if a 486 200LX could
be built and sold for around the range of a palm pilot. One of the advantages of
the pp is cost, and of course its size. I don't think the LX should go smaller but
as far as an organizer goes it's very pricey.

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** Reply to note from Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> 07/11/99 09:55am -0400


> >Still, the more sniffing around
>    >that I do, the more obvious it seems that IBM is very much
>    >interested in the mobile, handheld computing market, even if there
>    >is no coherent strategy apparent.
> Message-Id: <19990711135608.UPCL4954@İ12.72.155.27¨>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:08 +0000
>
> The interest is purely from a sales perspective.  Market segment = profit.
> The issue is whether there's an interest in doing something for the "hell
> of it"...because someone's got the balls and the brains to try something
> unique.
>

It would be good of IBM to take that step. Their PC110 wasn't all that bad. It
could have been reworked though as far as the keyboard, modem, battery life and
size. It had a lot of features that made it very convient to use.

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** Reply to note from Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> 07/11/99 09:52am EDT


> Wasn't there one put out by Zeos several years back that had MS Works built
> in?

Yes, Pocket PC or something.

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** Reply to note from Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> 07/11/99 10:41am -0400


> > > Exactly!  People are tuned into big MHz numbers.  They just cannot believe
> > > that anything useful can be done with less than a PII at 400 MHZ.
> >
> > And they are RIGHT, if that machine is running Windows!!
>
> You and I know that, Jim.  But the vast array of lemmings that
> buy computers these days think DOS is what the cavemen used to
> use.  There were no windows in those caves.  And their icons
> on the cave walls were so primitive - they were monochromatic
> and didn't whirl and change shape.  <grin>

I'm not Jim but I'll comment anyway<g>. Its just what's out there. Its really the large
purchasers like businesses, and software companies that have made the market what it is
today. People just buy what they are told to buy and what's availible. I doubt most
users even know what dos is. People can't buy what isn't availible. True that a lot of
people are boneheaded about it, they have this windows is the "ultimate in technology"
kind of attitude when windows was basically written for computer illiterates, (kind of
like buying a book on tape when you don't know how to read<g>). But hey, when the thing
is just a box who cares what's on it?

John

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** Reply to note from Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> 07/11/99 11:58am EDT

Sorry for being dumb but what is a Z39.50 client?

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John Musielewicz wrote:

> I use an early version of PE as my emailer from HV. Do you why
> Andreas decided to take that out in later versions?

I took it out because it can be done in a much better way using POST/LX
and therefore, it mainly was "ballast" in PE.

> What about PIM/LX? I have been playing with it. If you know, can I
> use it to replace the phone book or does it just do appointments?

For me, it replaces appointment book, phone book and notetaker (and
Memo).

Andreas

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
> by running.  But the top of your head (and shoulders, etc.) get more wet
> the longer you stay in the rain.  So, you should run, because the overall
> wetness is less that way.

I guess it depends how far you have to go.  In my university days I had to
go from one corner of the campus to the other to get from my last class to
the car.  Sometime during last class the day had gone from nothing special
to downpour.  I thought about it a bit (really waiting hoping the rain would
let up) and set out walking upon reaching the conclusion that I could only
get 100% wet.

-Frank McConnell

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   >> Whatsamatta Stan, didn't you ever watch Johnny Mnemonic.  Don't
   >> you = know all that high data compression will result in leakage
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:10:45 +0000

   >Hmmm ... maybe that explains the stain on the floor behind my
   >PC. <grin>

I set my pkzip settings to -ex, and the backup begins.  At 50%, the LX
begins to shudder from the strain...steam begins to issue from the serial
port and at 75% the battery cover blows free from the chassis.

80% and the LX begins dancing madly on the table while the unit's hum now
turns to a low roar.... "Capt'n, she's a gonna blow.... I dun't know how
much more she kin take"!

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   >> The issue is whether there's an interest in doing something for
   >>the "hell   of it"...because someone's got the balls and the
   >>brains to try something   unique.
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   >So, I assume what you're saying is, whether it's IBM or whoever,
   >the attitude is going to have to be "If we build a better product,
   >they will come,"  instead of, "What do our market surveys tell us?"
   >There have been men like that, e.g., Tucker, DeLorean . . . .

Nah...the attitude is "I'm going to build it because it's something I
believe in".

You left out Jack Northrop and the flying wing.

- Longden

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Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> wrote:
> This is a low power NEC V50 processor (80186 clone) with Vadem's own PCMCIA

You've probably already seen my comments about memory and the
difficulties in using it in 64KB chunks as a reason for wanting to
have a processor with big logical address space(s).

> License DOS from Datalight or Caldera. Advantage of Datalight is that they

I'm pretty much coming to the conclusion that, for myself, I'd rather
have a good semi-interpreted language on the thing, and have
applications written in that (so I can override their implementations
with my own, of course) than have MS-DOS.  Yeah, I've been feeding my
dreams by reading my Smalltalk books again.

Being able to work with FAT16 filesystems on ATA flash cards is nice
for backups and data interchange though.  Longer file names could be a win
but the ObNotebook still runs Win3.1 so can't deal with them.  Oh well.

> Memory: (what's the going price for a RAM module these days + $25 for flash)
>
> 64MB RAM / sufficient Flash for DOS and built in apps (say 2MB?) The ram
> module could be a DIMM or SIMM, so that you can put whatever you want into
> the slot.

But can you get the right sort of RAM on a DIMM or SIMM?

Last I heard, most PC RAMs were various flavors of dynamic RAM, meaning that
not only do they need power, each row needs to be accessed every so often for
refresh.  Static RAMs don't have that feature but tend to be slower.  Mack
can probably speak better than I can to what makes good RAM for a palmtop.
I bet it's not off-the-shelf PC memory or even the chips found on them.

> Battery: ($ up to you)
>
> 2 or 4 or 6 AA's ?? How much space are you willing to live with for
> lifetime. No recharger built in. Wall wart input.

Not much space, lots of lifetime.  2AAs is good, 3 or 4 is worse but
tolerable depending on how they're packaged.  I want to be able to
safely replace batteries without fearing data loss too so don't forget
the backup battery.

> Display: ($105 in small quantity for the mono)
>
> Kopin 320x240 Mono (or Color) CGA backlit display. This is a
> "hold-to-the-eye" type display that draws only 50mW.

320x240 isn't enough dots.  There are some things I do (database forms
mostly) that really like having a 64x18 or 80x25 text screen.

> Keyboard/Mouse: (varies wildly)
                   ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
Now there's an idea.  What if these and the display *can* vary wildly?

Sometimes I'd like one of those hold-to-the-eye things hung off my
glasses, sometimes I've thought a (quiet!) chord keyboard would be
handy for more discreet note-taking, sometimes I'd like a 200LXish LCD
display and keyboard, sometimes I'd like to hook up to a desktop
computer and use its keyboard and display.

And sometimes I've thought that the best use of the palmtop would be
to carry information and do light work (a little data entry, lookups,
&c) with it in the field, while being able to easily make that
information (and maybe its software, as well) available to a bigger,
faster CPU with a real keyboard and display for more intense work with
it, back it up, and maybe do other management things or programming from
the bigger system.

I don't think I have much use for a rodent for the sorts of things I want to
do with the palmtop.

> If necessary, or desireable, serial and parallel ports, too. Maybe even an
> IDE "port". But there's a tradeoff between size and number of ports. How

You can never have too many serial ports.  Having one, and the ability
to use it as a terminal, is what made the 95LX so attractive way back
when; it beat having to schlep a Real Terminal around to configure
datacomm gear.  I find myself using my 200LX that way more often
today.

IDE?  Why, if you have a PCMCIA slot and can support ATA flash cards?
Motors cost power!

-Frank McConnell

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>Y'all been watching too much Max Headroom.  Remember?  The only >capital
>crime left in the
books was credit fraud and they tracked your
every >move >using your cards and logins.
>- Longden

Ah ha, I see that others see, remember, and do
fringe ideas.

yor pal al......................................

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http://www.whatisthematrix.com/

you two Matrix fans might enjoy this
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Bob,

The vertical lines are caused by the solder joints on the LCD drivers
becoming cracked.  This occurs because of the hinge design (it also
causes the hinge crack problem on the case).  If you take the display
out and reflow all the solder connections on the back of the display the
lines should go away, YMMV.  Of course it helps if you know how to
solder.

HTH,
Tom


Robert Perron wrote:
>
>    My 2 meg 200 HP-LX died. Fresh batteries did not recover it, nor
> recharging the rechargeables in it at the time of its demise.
>    About the same time someone posted the nearly identical situation and
> asked for help. He was advised that sometimes. . .sometimes. .
> .absolutely fresh AA's with an absolutely fresh cr2032 followed by the
> hard boot-RAM initializing sequence (ALT-CTRL-LEFT SHIFT ARROW-ON) will
> bring the palm back.
>    Oh, Frabjous Day! Kaloo-Kalay! It worked. Thank you all very much. My
> backup HP-200 was down approximately 200 data entries, but that was
> nothing. . .an hour or two from sound hard copies and I was back on the
> road. . .but I was preparing to grumpily send my "broken" palm in to
> Thaddeus for repairs. . .yet again. . .having sent it in once already to
> fix the display screen. . .having acquired the vertical lines on the left
> hand side syndrome. Which have returned as well.
>    Any thoughts from the hardware gurus on what I can do about the
> vertical lines? I'm more inclined to tackle this myself now that I have
> acquired a backup machine.
>    But again, a HUGE THANK YOU to the list for your collective wisdom.
>                                                             Cheers,
>                                                              Bob Perron
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On 7/11/99 at 12:43 AM Robert Perron wrote, in part:

>having acquired the vertical lines on the left
>hand side syndrome. Which have returned as well.
>   Any thoughts from the hardware gurus on what I can do about the
>vertical lines? I'm more inclined to tackle this myself now that I have
>acquired a backup machine.

Try variously squeezing and twisting -- *gently* -- the top, especially the
bezel area to the left of the screen.  If you can get the lines to go away
or significantly change character (excluding the "moosh" you get whenever
you press on the LCD itself), odds are good that it's a problem with the
connector.  There is double-sided sticky behind the lid connector that
sometimes oozes in between the contacts and causes a problem.  If you're
good with your hands you can *gently* pull the machine apart far enough to
clean the contacts.  This may cure the problem; it did for me back in
March.

There is information on disassembling the LX available on the Web; it can
be found with a quick Altavista search.

Good luck!
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Thanks, Qman & John for this tip. I'll try it out and let you know the rsult.
But seems I hv to figure out how the keystuff work first :-) I'm not a power
user as you are :-)

Roger S.

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Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM> wrote:

I would like to hv a copy too.

TIA

Roger S.

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It appears that Earthlink here in Las Vegas has grown, been getting a lot
of busy signals lately.

I need to some how add an automatic redial to epppd. So if somebody has already
done this , please forward me a copy of your setup.

Any help would be appreciated!


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Hi Roger,

Here is my modified copy of the one John sent me.
Epppd is a little slow on detecting that the line is busy, but it does work.
I just named the file cclxpop.bat. You might have to change the location of
your epppd if its not the same. Let me know how it works out.

Note: the last :END is keystuff it starts ccMail after the download.
Keystuff came be found on the SUPER Site.


@echo off
:DIALER
if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat
c:\_dat\EPPPD file c:\_dat\PPPD.CFG
if errorlevel 1 goto CONNERR
if not exist ip-up.bat goto CONNERR
echo Connection successful
goto MAIL

:MAIL
cclxpop.exe
goto HANGUP

:CONNERR
echo ...Connection failed...
echo ...Redialing...
goto DIALER

:HANGUP
termin 0x60
echo ...Connection closed...
goto TIMEOUT

:TIMEOUT
goto END

:TIMEOUT1
echo...Connection Failed...
echo...Light Sleep Is ON...
pause
goto END

:END
a:\bin\ks \a\&

Regards,

Qman...
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Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> wrote:
> > What advantage do you get from running DOS in protected mode?
>
> Also, I would like the new palmtop to be multi-tasking.  It
> would be so cool to be able to fetch Email in the background
> while doing PIM stuff (or whatever) in the foreground.

There's no reason why the right software on the current HP200LX
couldn't fetch email while you're doing PIM stuff in the foreground.

I've prototyped a TCP/IP stack TSR in C which was able to answer pings
from the network in the background while I was editing in the
foreground.  It crashed after a time (cause I have no experience
writing TSRs and probably trashed a stack or an interrupt), but it did
prove the concept.  If anyone is good at TSRs and wants to check out
what I did, please contact me.

If we could get the source code to the op2216 and pd2216 ethernet
point enabler and packet driver packages to Mack, then I'm sure he
could make the software reinitialise the network connection on
power-up, allowing us to have a permanent TCP/IP TSR running, which
could automatically download your email whenever you were attached to
the network (even checking every 10 minutes if desired).

My dream for the HP200LX is to have a TCP/IP stack running TSR inetd
code which loads in overlays to answer FTP, HTTP, SMTP requests and to
send any outgoing email and to receive any incoming mail or news.  All
this could be happening in the background while I'm reading HPLX-L (as
the processor is idle most of the time your are reading mail).

All this is possible - we just need the software to be open source so
that many minds can attack different parts of the problem instead of
everyone having to reinvent the same wheels.

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Roger, you're right, my points can be argued against. I just
wanted to inject a few positive verses into the litany of
depression.

However, I can think of a good reason why corporates will dump.
I program on Windows platforms. Whenever I'm given a choice, I
like to use Borland's Delphi. On many occasions, corporate
customers have told me that they know Delphi is a technically
superior product. Their programmers tell them it's "better fun" to code =
and easier to maintain, BUT it's going to get written
with MS Visual C++ because Microsoft is a better long-term bet
than Borland. Also, if that's the wrong choice, then it's the
same wrong choice that the rest of the world is making.

A) Functional; productive; unsupported; uncertain long term future
B) Non-functional; unproductive; crashes; supported; here forever

In my experience, corporates tick box B every time.


-roger- wrote:

> There are inconsistencies in your argument, e.g., if people think the =
200 LX
> is valuable enough to horde spares now, what makes you think that
> "corporates" are going to dump them in droves later on?
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David Sargeant wrote

> Is there a version of Milles Bornes (I'm not sure if that's spelled =
right)
> that runs on the 200LX?

Not much help, I know, but there is a version of Mille Bornes
for the Psion Series 5. Copyright freeware by Frederic Botton.
It was utterly brilliant. One of the few occasions when the
e-version was better fun to play than the original. It almost
made me like the Psion :-)

I picked it up from http://www.chez.com/fredbotton/psion.html
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> > I've wondered from time-to-time why it is that IBM and Lotus never stepped
> > into the handheld computer market after it became apparent that HP did not
> > intend to upgrade the 200LX.
>
> Think paranoid! (My motto)  IBM licenses Windhose from Micro$haft.  If
> they want to continue to use the M$ OS, they have to pretty much kiss
> .....

One note - I've been told that  IBM is the only company still selling
plain DOS these days (PCDOS 7.x, or maybe even a 2000 version).  Can
anyone confirm that MS has quit selling DOS?

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On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, n3myw wrote:

> The vertical lines are caused by the solder joints on the LCD drivers
> becoming cracked.  This occurs because of the hinge design (it also
> causes the hinge crack problem on the case).  If you take the display
> out and reflow all the solder connections on the back of the display
> the lines should go away, YMMV.  Of course it helps if you know how to
> solder.

It can also happen if the rubber zebra strips are misaligned, though this
doesn't usually happen unless you've take the display apart.  It can also
happen if one of the video lines on the motherboard or CPU gets damaged...
I did this time mine a while back.  Most likely, though, it's the solder
joints.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> My dream for the HP200LX is to have a TCP/IP stack running TSR inetd
> code which loads in overlays to answer FTP, HTTP, SMTP requests and to
> send any outgoing email and to receive any incoming mail or news.
> All this could be happening in the background while I'm reading HPLX-L
> (as the processor is idle most of the time your are reading mail).

Presumably much of this could load into EMS, thus leaving most of your
conventional memory free for running "foreground" programs?

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Isn't Caldera still selling OpenDOS???

I understood they'd purchased some existing version of DOS and then
beefed it up in numerous ways including some degree of multi-tasking.

I'm pretty sure the one time I played with XT-CE I was using Caldera DOS
per Mr. Dean's knowing recommendation.

Larry Zimmerman

On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:47:11 -0500 "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
writes:
>One note - I've been told that  IBM is the only company still selling
>plain DOS these days (PCDOS 7.x, or maybe even a 2000 version).  Can
>anyone confirm that MS has quit selling DOS?

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> It can also happen if the rubber zebra strips are misaligned, though this
> doesn't usually happen unless you've take the display apart.  It can also
> happen if one of the video lines on the motherboard or CPU gets damaged...
> I did this time mine a while back.  Most likely, though, it's the solder
> joints.

If it is individual lines with no apparent pattern then most likely it is
the solder joints on one or more of the display drivers.  It is very rare to
have the zebra strip be the problem.  The display connector or processor
signal would only be the problem if a pattern is occurring and not for
individual lines.

Cheers,
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Corp. user *will* drop them, becuase if they can't get a reliable
source of replacement machines in the volumes they need
going forward, they will migrate to a newer, better supported
platform.

One company I am familiar with (Herman Miller) just dropped
their platform (SPARCBook computers) because they were
no longer being manufactured/supported by Tadpole... This
caused several hundred SPARCBook laptops (that were
bought at over $10K each, less than three years ago) to be
available for $650 (see http://www.sqa.net/tadpole ). Herman
Miller will be re-writing *all* their software that was designed
for Solaris to run on a new platform (I guess WinNT).

This is not a hobby or a personal choice for large corporations,
their businesses rely/depend on their technology decisions,
and they believe they can not afford to remain on an unsupported
platform, no matter had good it is/was.

Just my opinion,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: Demise of HP200


>In a message dated 7/9/99 4:39:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK writes:
>
>> It's their choice and their problem. _We_ don't have a problem.
>
>There are inconsistencies in your argument, e.g., if people think the 200
LX
>is valuable enough to horde spares now, what makes you think that
>"corporates" are going to dump them in droves later on?

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Wake up - it was just a movie/book...

I suspect this was your first introduction to the words "Artificial
Intelligence" - it is not reasonable to *expect* such a thing
to occur - ask your self this question: Why would a machine
want to "take over the world"? Pride, bragging rights, ego.
why? And then ask yourself "Why would the designers build
that into a machine"?

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 3:00 AM
Subject: FLUFF: The Matrix


>Hi friends,
>
>did anyone here see the film 'the Matrix' (Was this the English name?
>In Germany the film is called 'Die Matrix')?
>
>For those who did:
>
>What happened if all this was _true_ and if MS wrote the whole Matrix?
>;-)

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Don't forget they also run WinNT, Win98, Linux, FreeBSD, etc.

That 1 Gig HD really opens up the available OS options!

My PC110 has about 1 Gig of HD, but spread across several
TypeIII HDs...

If you get a PC110, *really* try to get one with the 20 Meg of
RAM - WinNT doesn't like any less! ;¬)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: HP200 Replacement


>Hi Y'all;
>The PC 110 is alive and well but (much) harder to
>get than the LX because they're obsolete and far
>away. It'll cost about $325 plus the cost of accessories.
>$400+ 1GB Type III HD.   Hey it's 1GB.
>They'll get only 2-7 hrs on batts. but hey it's a 486
>that does w95 and the connectivity pack (I think).
>There are a (very) few left at: EDECISIONS@aol.com
>For other info go: Altavista, Geocities search: PC110.

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I special-ordered and received IBM PC DOS 2000 two months ago.  After I
ordered my copy, I saw it at several stores (I believe one was Comp-USA).

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>
>On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:47:11 -0500 "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
>writes:
>>One note - I've been told that  IBM is the only company still selling
>>plain DOS these days (PCDOS 7.x, or maybe even a 2000 version).  Can
>>anyone confirm that MS has quit selling DOS?

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On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> If it is individual lines with no apparent pattern then most likely it
> is the solder joints on one or more of the display drivers.  It is
> very rare to have the zebra strip be the problem.  The display
> connector or processor signal would only be the problem if a pattern
> is occurring and not for individual lines.

On my displays, the zebra strips are almost always the problem.  But of
course that's because I take my display apart a lot more than most people.
<g>

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:57:05 -0400
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Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:39:29 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

Re the discussion of pkzip compression settings, you might be
interested in getting a copy of version 2.50 of PKZip.  I found it
thru shareware.com (it was in a Simtel collection).  This has a new
setting -exx for highest compression, plus some other goodies.  The
executables are larger than v2.04g.  Haven't run any tests for speed
or compresssion ratios yet.  Will post when I get some results.


-Peniel
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:17:30 -0400
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Caldera bought DR DOS (Digital Research DOS) from Novell,
who bought it from Digital Research (IIRC). I suspect they had
(at least) two motives - one, to have a nice, stable OS that ran
on millions of systems, and two, to be able to revive/persue a
lawsuit against Microsoft...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop?


>Isn't Caldera still selling OpenDOS???
>
>I understood they'd purchased some existing version of DOS and then
>beefed it up in numerous ways including some degree of multi-tasking.

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In a message dated 7/11/1999 10:07:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
khansen@NJCC.COM writes:

> Why would a machine
>  want to "take over the world"? Pride, bragging rights, ego.
>  why? And then ask yourself "Why would the designers build
>  that into a machine"?

Um, maybe you are not aware that DOS normally runs in "Protected" mode.  Baby
steps.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Chris Randle wrote:

> Not much help, I know, but there is a version of Mille Bornes for the
> Psion Series 5. Copyright freeware by Frederic Botton. It was utterly
> brilliant. One of the few occasions when the e-version was better fun
> to play than the original. It almost made me like the Psion :-)

Hmmm... maybe we can get an EPOC32 emulator for the 200LX.  <g>

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> More on what that right machine is later.

Anybody here know much about:

http://www.palmax.com/index2_e.html

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Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> Hi Y'all;
> >There's been a lot of discussion about building a
>  "super" palmtop.  >The PC 110 being available only in >Japan. >The IBM
> PC 110's. They can boot and >run
> >right from a flash card and are only a little bit bigger
> than an LX. >they are other small 486's from Dauphin
> and another >manufacturers.
>
> The PC 110 is alive and well but (much) harder to
> get than the LX because they're obsolete and far
> away. It'll cost about $325 plus the cost of accessories.
> $400+ 1GB Type III HD.   Hey it's 1GB.
> They'll get only 2-7 hrs on batts. but hey it's a 486
> that does w95 and the connectivity pack (I think).
> There are a (very) few left at: EDECISIONS@aol.com
> For other info go: Altavista, Geocities search: PC110.
>
> yor pal al..........................................
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Get the Internet just the way you want it.
> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
> Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
>
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Dear AL
I've had no luck with the EDECISIONS@AOL to buy a PC110
I'd love one.
Is there a trick to finding the site?
Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:34:03 -0400
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> But seriously - isn't it terrible? I think if the AI is developed, I
> mean a _real_ AI, something like this _could_ be true: The AI gets
> independant and makes the mankind its slave.
> In the film there were a lot of exaggerations, of course. But the
> essentials are imaginable.

The general concept of such things has been in fiction sine time immemorial..
man's creation turned against him.  (if you want to really dig, this theme has
existed in literature since before the birth of Christ; check out the
references to Golems in the Kabbaleh.)  Frankenstein, *ALL* the Pre-Asimov
robot literature, Most of William Gibson's stuff, Terminator, etc...

--
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  I can make a hat of it for you."
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Chris,

I'm glad you posted this evening (or yesterday evening as the case may be),
because it provides me with the perfect excuse to post this refresher to an
observation I've made before.  Strangely enough, I had the occasion to stop
by J&R Domputers (an authorized HP dealer) in downtown NYC Sunday afternoon.
Yeah, they know the 200LX is being discontinued.  Yeah, they're still
ordering and selling it.  Yeah, their Wall Street customers are still running
their proprietary trading programs on it.  Yeah, they keep telling HP about
this.  Yeah, they have no plans to stop selling the machine so long as they
can get stock.  And, yeah, you still have to pay the same price for it that
you did last week.

BTW, J&R is my unscientific "barometer", so to speak, because they are a big
outfit and the most convenient outlet for the lower Manhattan financial
community.  And finally, on this particular fair-weather shopping day, those
WinCE handhelds looked very lonely, unattended, and still overpriced for what
they do.

-roger-

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In a message dated 7/11/99 10:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
khansen@NJCC.COM writes:

> ne company I am familiar with (Herman Miller) just dropped
>  their platform (SPARCBook computers) because they were
>  no longer being manufactured/supported by Tadpole

Just out of curiosity (and ignorance), what has the aftermarket third-party
support for this platform been like?

-roger-

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A Meshar writes:
> Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM> posted on Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:57:42
> EDT:
>
>     I think a quick reading of a new book, "Open Sources,Voices from the
> > Open Source Revolution" edited by Chris DiBona, Sam Ockman & Mark Sloan,
> > released  January, l999 by O"Reilly will shed more light and less heat on
> > these topics. Particularly relevant to software developers would be the
> > article "Open Source as a Business Strategy",by Brian Behlendorf.
>
> Thank you for the reference.

FYI, another set of interesting writings on this subject are those by
Eric Raymond at www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings - the first three on that
page are directly relevant ("The Magic Cauldron discusses eight
different open source business models).

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Roger Feinman writes:
> The header says it all, folks.  E-mail? Wonderful.  Surfing the web on a
> handheld?  Eh!  To be honest, I can do without it, whether it's in mono or
> color.  But to search the databases of the world in a matter of minutes from
> any telephone or wireless modem?  Now that would be an eye-opener!  That
> would be serious friggin' kick-butt handheld computing!
>
> Where is it?

Can you point us to a specification ?  Is it like WAIS ? Does it use
simple socket protocols like SMTP and NNTP do ?  If it's as simple as
sending a formatted string to a server and displaying the results or
saving them to a file, then everything a developer needs to implement
this type of stuff is in LXTCP (the HP200LX TCP/IP Development Kit).

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I don't know of any for DOS.  However maybe the folks at RSD
would be interested.

http://www.teleport.com/~rsd/DOS.html



Roger Feinman wrote:
>
> The header says it all, folks.  E-mail? Wonderful.  Surfing the web on a
> handheld?  Eh!  To be honest, I can do without it, whether it's in mono or
> color.  But to search the databases of the world in a matter of minutes from
> any telephone or wireless modem?  Now that would be an eye-opener!  That
> would be serious friggin' kick-butt handheld computing!
>
> Where is it?
>
> -roger-
>
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Agree, but there are a couple of other H/W points:
Allow 1 PCMCIA type 3 card
Allow more than 150mA when on adapter
Use a serial chip with FIFO
Use a ega chip capable of EGA graphics on 320x200 screen (ATI did it, so it
can be done)
Have socketed RAM for easy upgrade path

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> From: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: a new 200LX
> Date: 6. juli 1999 10:23
>
> The wish lists are a remarkable part of the
> HPLX-L-archives, aren't they?
>
> Most used words will probably be 'minimum
> 640x200' or 'minimum backlight', 'minimum
> color screen' etc.
>
> What do you think about the following
> statement:
>
> What would happen, if someone build a new
> 200LX (let's call it a 210LX) with the
> following hardware:
>
> - 386sx processor
> - everything else would be the same
>
> I state, that the most of the
> 'wish-list-posters' would quickly run and
> buy it. All the 'minimum requirements' would be
> forgotten, because now, the 386 processor
> enables a lot of new toys (Win3.1, Linux, all
> the good software that requires minimum 286 or
> 386 etc.).
>
> The word 'minimum' is used a little carelessly
> on the list. If the LX had a 386 processor,
> the rest of the hardware (except e.g. the
> IR-port) would be state-of-the-art. Wouldn't it?
>
> Of course, it 'would be nice if ...'.
> Bu wouldn't you run anyway?
>
> -goe-
>
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Subject:      Re: Making a replacement for the 200

> > My dream for the HP200LX is to have a TCP/IP stack running TSR inetd
> > code which loads in overlays to answer FTP, HTTP, SMTP requests and to
> > send any outgoing email and to receive any incoming mail or news.
> > All this could be happening in the background while I'm reading HPLX-L
> > (as the processor is idle most of the time your are reading mail).
>
> Presumably much of this could load into EMS, thus leaving most of your
> conventional memory free for running "foreground" programs?

You can't run programs from EMS, the best you can do is implement
some sort of page swapping using EMS as storage. On any intel
processor without protected mode all execution under DOS is in the
lower 1M. EMS was originally designed for DATA, allowing large
spreadsheets and graphic files to be manipulated.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: The Matrix

> Wake up - it was just a movie/book...
>
> I suspect this was your first introduction to the words "Artificial
> Intelligence" - it is not reasonable to *expect* such a thing
> to occur - ask your self this question: Why would a machine
> want to "take over the world"? Pride, bragging rights, ego.
> why? And then ask yourself "Why would the designers build
> that into a machine"?
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>

You should watch the move Colossus, the Forbin Project, an old but
good scifi movie. While it is true that a machine is unlikely to have
an ego what happens if you build a machine to protect man and give it
too much power? Isn't it likely to try to protect man from himself?
Also, much of the AI research going on right now is in the form of
letting programs learn new ways of doing something on their own so
all the "features" of an AI program are not "built in". After all, we
have human murderers and I don't think antone actually taught them to
do that, they learned it all on their own. Makes you think. :-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Making a replacement for the 200

> Anybody here know much about:
>
> http://www.palmax.com/index2_e.html
>

The Palmax was a very obvious clone of the toshiba libretto, same
size and basically the same features. You can get them in the US from
Executive Decisions (http://www.exec-decisions.com/) or from Tiger
Direct I think.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: HP200 Replacement

> Dear AL
> I've had no luck with the EDECISIONS@AOL to buy a PC110
> I'd love one.
> Is there a trick to finding the site?
> Thanks
> Duncan...


Go to:

http://www.exec-decisions.com

Pete

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Subject:      Re: HP200 Replacement

> THis raises quite a serious question. Others have tried to build and sell small
> handhelds with faster processors, like the prolinear, yet none have been very
> successful in fact usually no one even remembers the name of the things when they
> come up. Now HP is discontinuing the LX which was easily one of the top 5 sellers.
> Why would a 200LX successor sell at all? Now certainly I would buy a successor if
> it was at least as good as the 200LX, but would others? Why would so few people
> want a small palmtop notebook like the 200LX?

Thats the same question for most subnotebook and smaller machines,
why don't they sell in the US? Toshiba stopped making the libretto
line, but only in the US. In Japan they have just released two new
models of the libretto and there were two models before this that
never made it to the states. I guess it is the old "bigger is better"
mentality in the US that kills small machines. The new librettos
looked really nice too, oh well.

Pete

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> On my displays, the zebra strips are almost always the problem.  But of
> course that's because I take my display apart a lot more than most people.
> <g>

That's why I said rare. Most folks don't tend to take the screen totally
apart.<g>

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Subject:      Re: HP200 Replacement

> Sharp built the Palm Executive

Not in production for several years, they had the pc3000 and 3100, 1m
and 2m internally, like the 200lx.


> Prolinear distributed PS-1000 and the PS-3000 (8086 & 80386 w/CGA)

I don't think they are around anymore, anyone know for sure? I know
the last model 386 had a type III slot but only a cga screen which
many saw a shortfall.


> Abstract R&D distributed the LC-8600 and LC-8620

Never heard of these, anyone have any more info?


> EduCalc marketed the PTV-30 by Instant Tech

These were sold by several vendors under various names, very similar
in design to the sharps above. Educalc is gone and so is this machine
as far as I have seen.


> These were all Poquet sized machines running of AA's.
>
> Might be worth a try to check these out.
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY

Of course you left ot the original, the Poquet PC. Haven't seen one
of those in a long time. All of these come up for sale used on
occasion but I don't think any, except maybe the prolinear, are still
in production.

Pete

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> Wasn't there one put out by Zeos several years back that had MS Works built
> in?
>

It was the same model sold by several vendors including educalc. Made
in Japan I think.

Pete

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Okay, here's a question I haven't been able to figure out on my own:

What's the *exact* screen resolution, both vertically and horizontally,
in the 640x200 graphics mode?  I'm looking for the precise dimensions
of the screen, from left-most to right-most pixel, or pixel density in
pixels-per-inch(or cm).  Is this info published somewhere?

-Chris

p.s.  I have measured it, but the answer I get isn't satisfying.  I'd
like to find out the manufacturer's specification.

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** Reply to note from Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> 07/12/99 01:24am EDT


> Chris,
>
> I'm glad you posted this evening (or yesterday evening as the case may be),
> because it provides me with the perfect excuse to post this refresher to an
> observation I've made before.  Strangely enough, I had the occasion to stop
> by J&R Domputers (an authorized HP dealer) in downtown NYC Sunday afternoon.
> Yeah, they know the 200LX is being discontinued.  Yeah, they're still
> ordering and selling it.  Yeah, their Wall Street customers are still running
> their proprietary trading programs on it.  Yeah, they keep telling HP about
> this.  Yeah, they have no plans to stop selling the machine so long as they
> can get stock.  And, yeah, you still have to pay the same price for it that
> you did last week.
>
> BTW, J&R is my unscientific "barometer", so to speak, because they are a big
> outfit and the most convenient outlet for the lower Manhattan financial
> community.  And finally, on this particular fair-weather shopping day, those
> WinCE handhelds looked very lonely, unattended, and still overpriced for what
> they do.

Makes you wonder why HP is doing this. If anything they should be developing it
more along the lines of the world's smallest notebook. The financial community
is one of the targeted groups of the 200LX. If it is still big there the market
isn't gone at all.

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** Reply to note from Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> 07/11/99  2:10pm -0400


> >> The issue is whether there's an interest in doing something for
>    >>the "hell   of it"...because someone's got the balls and the
>    >>brains to try something   unique.
> Message-Id: <19990711181051.XJOB4954@İ12.72.155.58¨>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:10:51 +0000
>
>    >So, I assume what you're saying is, whether it's IBM or whoever,
>    >the attitude is going to have to be "If we build a better product,
>    >they will come,"  instead of, "What do our market surveys tell us?"
>    >There have been men like that, e.g., Tucker, DeLorean . . . .
>
> Nah...the attitude is "I'm going to build it because it's something I
> believe in".
>
> You left out Jack Northrop and the flying wing.
>

This is true. I remember reading a story by A.C. Clarke where a passenger on a
earth to moon shuttle pulls out a pocket computer to read the paper on-line. The LX
comes closest to fit that bill<g>. Add a built-in long range radio modem and the
proper satillite system and it would fit it exactly. Sci-fi but getting there...

John

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Roger,

> Stan, I was a bit taken aback to see my own unspoken sentiments expressed so
> well in your words, and what a sad comment it is on the present state of our
> culture.    However, I have hopes that the Internet will ultimately be our

I agree with you, and with Stan.

We begin to see a deep dissatisfaction growing even among the
die-hard Mincrosoft users. They are unhappy that they have to
upgrade constantly just to stay running. Even if the upgrades
cost less and less (Bill Gates _is_ right on that point) The
fact that they have to continue paying is an irritant and
lowers the financial productivity of any enterprise. This is
why Linux gets so much attention. This is why alternatives are
beginning to show up to some of the low-quality, high turnover
setups we have been fed for some years now...

Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Lynn,

> In a message dated 7/10/1999 11:33:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> sponsor@FTEL.NET writes:
>
> > Seems like 36 use HV, and 35 want it updated. 35 are willing
> >  to pay for the upgrade, so that is 100% i.e. all that want to
> >  update it are willing to pay.
> Well, yes.  You are including the people willing to pay $10 or less.  Even if
> all 35 were willing to pay the $80 top price mentioned, you'd only gross
> $2,800.  That won't buy many Source Lines Of Code.

You posted that hardly any one wants to pay for a browser. The
survey refutes your point. That is all i said.

Re netting anything... The browser is NOT a D&A project, but a
public project of this community. All the discussion I read
stated it was freeware. I have no idea what you are talking
about netting anything.

I surveyed our customer base and overwhelmingly they said
forget browser. When I posted this here, there was a protest.
I suggested to run a survey to find out how many people
wanted a browser. 40 replied. 36 want a browser. There are
hundreds of people in this list. I find the silence to be
confirming what I found.

Now, as a commercial project for D&A I cannot see the
justification. As a community project, a-la Linux, I think it
makes good sense. I and Ryan, and Andreas, and maybe Ian (he
disappeared and seems to have lost interest in this project, I
am disappointed!). Great! :-( After all the noise there is
this indifference. Oh well...

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Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> wrote on 10 Jul 1999:

> As far as HP is concerned, a 200LX sale is a one shot deal
> with only a small profit margin.  This is because the 200LX is
> a very stable and mature product after only the third version
> (95/100/200).  HP does not feel that it can go anywhere else
> with this platform.  It is old technology that will not sell
> well in this day and age.

The profit margin from a 200LX is huge, not small. They make
on each 200LX sold many many times what they make on each
WinCE sold. The production process is mature and optimized,
the parts are very inexpensive. They have no competition, the
price is very stable.

If they sold more 200LX units so the total profit is much
higher, they would stay in the 200LX market.

I believe that you are right about going forward with the
200LX platform. They just do not believe in thenmselves to be
able to do something with the platform. It takes quite a bit
of engineering talent, and I suspect Singapore did not believe
they had it.

As to selling ability of the "old technology": I think this
is incorrect. The technology is indeed somewhat behind the
newest, most advanced. But a 486 with say 50MB memory running
for 10-15 hours on a pair of AA batteries, and able to run the
most uptodate operating systems has a HUGE selling appeal! all
the people who need a notebook will DEFINITELY look at that
platform. The Toshiba was very successful but it is still too
large - not pocketable. A 486 inside a 200LX shell would be a
very successful seller.

The thing is that HP Singapore would have to invest in putting
this together, bringing the engineering talent, and put
together the supply line for the necessary parts. There are
two obstacles:

(1) the frame of mind of HP Singapore - we don't have the
brains to do it, and it is easier to do the "safe" thing.

(2) The financial operation of HP which requires each division
to justify their own financial standing. There is clearly no
corporate commitment to excellence, only to bottom line.
Unfortunately, bottom lines are measured each quarter or
year, and that may be longer than the development cycle of a
sequel for a 200LX.

With WinCE you can easily slap together something and sell
it, then work on the sequel, sell it, work on a sequel, sell
it... (we saw exactly that happening!) You show that you are
making money along the way. Never mind that in the long run
you destroy the company's reputation and engineering spirit,
that is not a tangible asset that can be put into the bottom
line. Narrow minded? Sure! None of the executives who are in
charge of it believe they will be around when the "stuff"
begins to hit the fan - so they don't care.

> The WinCE machines, on the other hand, are a new technology
> with Microsoft's blessing and marketing and name.  Every other
> week, a new product comes out and there is lots and lots of
> action in this market.  This is where any company on earth
> will want to sell to.  They don't care if the machines are a
> pain in the butt and the users are frustrated.  These days,
> users are willing to accept crappy computer hardware and
> software.

I am not sure this is true. The margins on WinCE machines a
tiny!!! Sure you sell 200,000-300,000 every 6 months, but you
make $0.50 per machine (I am exaggerating, it is more!)
Problem is also that any hiccup in that market can instantly
destroy your position, and with tiny margins you have nowhere
to go.

> I will be buying another brand new, 32MB DS 200LX from

Me too! :)

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> You can't run programs from EMS, the best you can do is implement
> some sort of page swapping using EMS as storage. On any intel
> processor without protected mode all execution under DOS is in the
> lower 1M. EMS was originally designed for DATA, allowing large
> spreadsheets and graphic files to be manipulated.

I am afraid this is totally incorrect.  EMS can be used to run programs and
store data as the EMS page is within the 1MB limit.  My EMS driver currently
uses D000-EFFF as the paging area and also includes map & call and map &
jump routines for just such an occasion.  Of course this limits the code to
128k or less chunks.

Cheers,
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> The Palmax was a very obvious clone of the toshiba libretto, same

Just thought that I would note that the Libretto's don't have touch screens
and the Palmax does.

Cheers,
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I installed REMKEY last night and thought it was a neat program, so I
put the REMKEY statement in my autoexec.bat.
This morning an alarm went off while I was 'Remkey'd' to my palmtop. The
alarm won't quit! I push esc, space, nothing!  I have tried a soft
reboot, and a hard reboot (without initializing ram). It still comes up
with the alarm going off.

Could anyone give me any suggestions?!?

Steve

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Subject:      Re: HP200 Replacement

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** Reply to note from Peter W. Borders <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> 07/12/99 08:19am EST


> > THis raises quite a serious question. Others have tried to build and sell small
> > handhelds with faster processors, like the prolinear, yet none have been very
> > successful in fact usually no one even remembers the name of the things when they
> > come up. Now HP is discontinuing the LX which was easily one of the top 5 sellers.
> > Why would a 200LX successor sell at all? Now certainly I would buy a successor if
> > it was at least as good as the 200LX, but would others? Why would so few people
> > want a small palmtop notebook like the 200LX?
>
> Thats the same question for most subnotebook and smaller machines,
> why don't they sell in the US? Toshiba stopped making the libretto
> line, but only in the US. In Japan they have just released two new
> models of the libretto and there were two models before this that
> never made it to the states. I guess it is the old "bigger is better"
> mentality in the US that kills small machines. The new librettos
> looked really nice too, oh well.
>

Yes, that bigger is better unless they have to carry it or have a small desktop<g>. I've shown
mine to people before and they (1) don't think its a real computer (2) don't think it can do
what a desktop does. Maybe it would have a hard time modualing the atmosphere but most other
things it does fine and it doesn't get lost with the loggage<g>.

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Taken from the article...

>Kevin Havre, Hewlett-Packard's technical marketing manager for

>Walter Francis, an assembly line operator in Kentucky,

Are these guys on the list? Maybe one should extend an invitation to them...
:-)

br

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** Reply to note from Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> 07/12/99 08:43am -0500

Backup your data then intialize the ram? Unless you want to try deleting alarm.q
in the c:\_dat directory first then rebooting. It's a hidden file.

John

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** Reply to note from A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> 07/12/99 06:40am -0700


> Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> wrote on 10 Jul 1999:
>
> > As far as HP is concerned, a 200LX sale is a one shot deal
> > with only a small profit margin.  This is because the 200LX is
> > a very stable and mature product after only the third version
> > (95/100/200).  HP does not feel that it can go anywhere else
> > with this platform.  It is old technology that will not sell
> > well in this day and age.
>
> The profit margin from a 200LX is huge, not small. They make
> on each 200LX sold many many times what they make on each
> WinCE sold. The production process is mature and optimized,
> the parts are very inexpensive. They have no competition, the
> price is very stable.
>
> If they sold more 200LX units so the total profit is much
> higher, they would stay in the 200LX market.
>
> I believe that you are right about going forward with the
> 200LX platform. They just do not believe in thenmselves to be
> able to do something with the platform. It takes quite a bit
> of engineering talent, and I suspect Singapore did not believe
> they had it.
>
> As to selling ability of the "old technology": I think this
> is incorrect. The technology is indeed somewhat behind the
> newest, most advanced. But a 486 with say 50MB memory running
> for 10-15 hours on a pair of AA batteries, and able to run the
> most uptodate operating systems has a HUGE selling appeal! all
> the people who need a notebook will DEFINITELY look at that
> platform. The Toshiba was very successful but it is still too
> large - not pocketable. A 486 inside a 200LX shell would be a
> very successful seller.
>
<snip>

I can get whole-heartedly behind this. One other thing is it could use VGA.
CGA is basically gone except for old programs and it would be nice to have
half-height VGA capabilities. It would be strange I think for HP, one of
the finest engineering companies in the world, with such a reputation for
inovation to develop such an attitude. They must have really fallen on bad
times to pick such a lackluster project such as CE over a challenging one
such as the 200LX.

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I have been using X-Finder quite successfully but this weekend somehow my
split screen views are no longer working. If I hit split window it will work
by I can no longer get twp slpit palmtop (drive) windows. Anyone have any
ideas?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Subject:      Re: Making a replacement for the 200

> I am afraid this is totally incorrect.  EMS can be used to run programs and
> store data as the EMS page is within the 1MB limit.  My EMS driver currently
> uses D000-EFFF as the paging area and also includes map & call and map &
> jump routines for just such an occasion.  Of course this limits the code to
> 128k or less chunks.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack

Doesn't that take programs that are specifically written to run from
EMS in a page swapping mode? or a shell program that can handle the
swapping of program pages as they are needed? I was responding to
someone that seemed to think it worked along the line of high memory
in a protected mode machine, which it doesn't. In other words I
can't just put LOADEMS (or somesuch) in front of a program and it will
work, like I can with LOADHIGH in a proteced mode machine. If I am
wrong about that sorry.

Pete



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Re: Making a replacement for the 200

> > The Palmax was a very obvious clone of the toshiba libretto, same
>
> Just thought that I would note that the Libretto's don't have touch screens
> and the Palmax does.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack

True but I always think of a screen based mouse as a non-feature. It
is so annoying to keep having to pick up and put down the pen just to
move the mouse, at least on the libretto the mouse movement button
stays put. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:53:11 -0400
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Subject:      Renamed:  When the Radio Shack 100 was dropped

>I would love to have seen the threads when Radio Shack killed off their
>100 (was it?) portable.  I'm sure much of this is a carbon copy.

  I didn't have a Radio Shack 100, but I still have 2 checkbook sized
Radio Shack PC-6s which were discontinued. One as a primary and one as a
backup. I has a very primitive proprietary form of BASIC burnt into it,
it offers an assembler simulator, and it's expandable to 16K. It runs for
over a full year on a couple of common watch batteries and it even has
non-volatile memory, allowing use of Multi-dimentional array variables
for long term storage.

  I used every trick in the book (and a lot that were not in any books)
to write a complete budget and cash flow management program in BASIC for
that computer, all within 16K, many years ago. I still use that checkbook
sized computer to manage my budget and cash flow, and even reconcile my
checkbook, to this very day. :-)

  I hate it when they kill off innovative computers, but that doesn't
mean that they suddenly become less useful. My Radio Shack PC-6 is still
in service, after all of these years, and my HP200LX will be in service
for many many years to come, as well! :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Last week there was a post regarding a Palmtop emulator that was supposed to
be better the PAL version.  Does anyone remember the name and URL of the
newer emulator?  Does anyone one have any comments, suggestions on it's
usefulness?

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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Doesn't that take programs that are specifically written to run from
> EMS in a page swapping mode? or a shell program that can handle the
> swapping of program pages as they are needed? I was responding to
> someone that seemed to think it worked along the line of high memory
> in a protected mode machine, which it doesn't.

I'm well aware of the differences between high memory and expanded memory.
What I was asking was whether or not Rod or whoever ends up making the TSR
version of LXTCP plans on making it an EMS-enabled application.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:20:03 -0500
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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I have been skimming the debate and posts regarding HV.  As one of the
silent majority (gee - where have I heard that one?) I thought I'd just
toss my 2 cents in here about the concept of the survery itself.
Getting 40 replies from a list of hundreds is a good response and hardly
deafening silence, which I'm sure you could confirm by talking to
someone who does that sort of thing professionally (which I do not).

Didn't they used to say that one letter to a televison network likely
reflected the views of 50,000 people?

Anyway, I should say that I use HV on a regular basis - it is a
wonderful program and I'd be lost without it.  Would I pay for it and
how much? Yes, although I probably wouldn't pay more than $15-20.  There
are alternatives to HV but they aren't nearly as elegant.  (Nettamer and
viewhtml come to mind first.)  However, I do not browse online but often
save and transfer .html files to my lx. I must have 2 or 3 megs of
text/html files on my flash ram card.

If I had to travel or didn't have a desktop computer, then online
browsing using HV would be much more important to me.  Perhaps I would
pay more at that point.

JFTR, I didn't reply to the survey because it seemed as if your
company's mind was made up already.  I can understand that but I didn't
want you to misunderstand silence on my part - and maybe others.

Terry Owen
owen6511@earthlink.net (home)

Avi wrote:

>I surveyed our customer base and overwhelmingly they said
>forget browser. When I posted this here, there was a protest.
>I suggested to run a survey to find out how many people
>wanted a browser. 40 replied. 36 want a browser. There are
>hundreds of people in this list. I find the silence to be
>confirming what I found.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:27:44 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Renamed:  When the Radio Shack 100 was dropped
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>   I didn't have a Radio Shack 100, but I still have 2 checkbook sized
> Radio Shack PC-6s which were discontinued. One as a primary and one as a

John:

You remind me of my first pocket computer, the RS PC-II (I think Sharp
actually made it, and sold a similar version).  I still have it, and
dig it up occassionally.  One of the neatest features, IMHO, was the
four-color pen printer/plotter that was an integral part of the docking
station.  I wrote a small graphics library, and several applications
that generated nice enginering plots as output - an antenna pattern
analysis tool comes to mind.  Thanks for bringing back the fond memory...

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:44:19 -0400
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Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:13:02 -0400 (EDT)

25m33s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I have been using X-Finder quite successfully but this weekend somehow =
my
> split screen views are no longer working. If I hit split window it will =
work
> by I can no longer get twp slpit palmtop (drive) windows. Anyone have =
any
> ideas?

Hi, Tony-

Can you clarify a couple of things?  What is your setup in finder.env?
Do you mean that İShift¨İTab¨ works OK, but the file browser comes up
full screen?  Do you remember what you were working on just before the
split-screen problem?  I've never seen this happen, but the the most
likely thing is a typo in finder.env - or else somehow the finder.exm
has become corrupted.  The .env is probably it.


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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:36:28 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Doesn't that take programs that are specifically written to run from
> EMS in a page swapping mode? or a shell program that can handle the
> swapping of program pages as they are needed? I was responding to
> someone that seemed to think it worked along the line of high memory
> in a protected mode machine, which it doesn't. In other words I
> can't just put LOADEMS (or somesuch) in front of a program and it will
> work, like I can with LOADHIGH in a proteced mode machine. If I am
> wrong about that sorry.

That is what the original discussion was about actually, using code in EMS
for software that was written for EMS.  The original message David sent was
a little out of context as he was referring to what I was talking about.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:38:23 -0400
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Peniel
Thanks. I think I fixed it.

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:Open Ltr to HP & M$
Comments: To: Feinmanr@AOL.COM

** Reply to note from Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> 06/27/99 12:18am EDT


> An open letter to Hewlett-Packard and Micro$oft:
>
> I don't believe that you can sell enough of the WinCE machines to make them
> profitable.  I also understand that there will be significant changes in the
> operating system in the near future, therefore I doubt that IT managers who
> understand this fact will purchase the present models in bulk.  Here's my
> 200LX-to-Jornada upgrade counteroffer:
>
> I'll give you a xerox of  my 200LX's behind, but it's still mine.  Keep the
> REX.  You give me the Jornada 680 for free.  I'm not going to pay you a dime
> for it.  Instead, I'll buy three spare batteries from you, because I know I'm
> going to need them.  Also, I'll promise not to buy any other competing WinCE
> PDA, or any ultraportable Pentium sub-notebook for the next 12 months.  If by
> the end of that period, you can make the Jornada/WinCE platform do everything
> that I could formerly do with my 200LX palmtop, I'll buy the next edition.
> And, by the way, I'm quite serious.

Excellant letter and about right. I think they should pay us to take to make up
for the lost productivity.

John

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>> How do I set it to pause or wait for a keypress after executing a DOS
>> command, instead of returning so quickly I can't see the result?
>
> If you're typing in the command in the box opened from F10 (DOS), just
> add |k to the end.  If you're setting up in finder.env, add k in the
> switch column (after the first comma).

Thanks, Peniel, it works like a charm!

FYI, why I asked is this: Because I am attempting to make my LX as Mac-like as
possible, I run X-Finder in full icon mode. To get info about a file, I'm
setting up File ID Check(idchec.zip) from SUPER to run under Ctrl-I, similar to
the Mac's Get Info function with Command-I.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:46:12 -0400
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Subject:      Renamed:  DesqView

<<From: F. Kaufman İmailto:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
I believe the only hope will follow from the things MACK has
accomplished - keep shoving more into the existing boxes we already own.
I hope that some faster "bigger" cpu could replace the trusty 186 so
that I could run DV or Win3.1/95.  But then I will probably be able to
also heat my lunch on it and buy shares in a battery company.>>

  DesqView can be run extremely efficiently on a simple 286. Remember
when DesqView used to be used routinely to run multiple line BBSs on
single 286s?

  No true multitasker has even come close to duplicating DesqView's power
and efficiency on a 286. For it's efficiency and power, It should at
least be considered seriously for use on any 286 or higher LX upgrade as
a non-GUI quasi multitasker.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:55:38 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Making a replacement for the 200

Hi Frank,

>And sometimes I've thought that the best use of the palmtop would be
>to carry information and do light work (a little data entry, lookups,
>&c) with it in the field, while being able to easily make that
>information (and maybe its software, as well) available to a bigger,
>faster CPU with a real keyboard and display for more intense work with
>it, back it up, and maybe do other management things or programming from
>the bigger system.
>
>I don't think I have much use for a rodent for the sorts of things I
want to
>do with the palmtop.

  I just couldn't resist speaking up when I saw this comment! ;-)

  I'm doing that with my HP200LX right now, without any modifications at
all. :-) My LX is an actual serially connected node on my Little Big Lan
network, so I'm able to do all of what you mentioned above, and much
more! :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:39:57 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Helmuth,

> > Question is "how do you back up that thing?
>
> Very quick, using network. Same with my 64 + 4 MB, Takes about 5
> minutes.

Good thinking. Now all I need is a fast international link to
my machines at home! :) ...

See you in about 24 hours.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:40:02 -0700
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> I use an early version of PE as my emailer from HV. Do you
> why Andreas decided to take that    out in later versions?

It was replaced with Post/LX. It was silly to support two
email packages, especially one that is so er... primitive like
the old PE email client.

> What about PIM/LX? I have been playing with it. If you know,
> can I use it to replace the phone book or does it just do
> appointments?

Did you read the announcement? Andreas did.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:55:34 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I have been in contact with this guy below which has moved from the Hp
200 to a Palm. I am trying to get him back to the "good" side..but he
has some problems with his Hp200 which I hope that the list can help
with..He is not a member of our "club" yet..

(Stefan:I have sent a copy of your last email to the list..Hope that
it is okey..

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Stefan Verhagen" <stefan@xs4all.nl>
To: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@mobilpost.com>
Subject: Re: Re:8810 buy it or not?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:44:16 +0200

Martin,

Tanks for your help. It is very much appreciated.

However I tried to upgrade my WWW/LX but, since my version is 1.0, I =
would
have to pay the full whopping $80+.
Next to that, I found out that my HP seemingly randomly reboots, as if =
the
main batteries were dead. they aren't empty and this even happens when =
the
HP is on AC mains adapter. Have you ever heard about such a situation?

Anyway these things don't help me much getting back to my HP :( So for =
the
time being I'll stick to my PalmIII, which doesn;t have the "vast" =
storage
capacity and no keyboard. But it is very small, and has cheap/free =
software.
Like avantgo=3Doff/online browser which also connects to my 8810. It also
synchronizes data to my desktop very fast and easy.)

FYI: This is what i used on my HP for which I haven't found a good =
PalmIII
alternative yet:
lxdc (exchange picture with my digital camera)
www/lx
buddy
a dutch  routeplanner for cars and trains
vertical reader
qbasic and DOS

Well, I hope to meet you in the unforeseeable future, e.g. when the =
HP900LX
comes out with DOS and Linux, the size of a cigarette pack (this is all =
just
wishfull thinking, I guess)

Although WAP is an interesting thing to watch as well.

Thanks again,

Stefan


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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:08:25 -0400
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Does anyone know if there is either a Korean dictionary of word processor that
will work on the palmtop.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Subject:      Re: Why not  an IBM/Lotus Palmtop

Ken Hansen wrote:
<Caldera bought DR DOS (Digital Research DOS) from <Novell,
<who bought it from Digital Research (IIRC). I suspect they <had
<(at least) two motives - one, to have a nice, stable OS that <ran
<on millions of systems, and two, to be able to revive/persue <a
<lawsuit against Microsoft...

-----Original Message----
Larry Zimmer Wrote

>Isn't Caldera still selling OpenDOS???
>
>I understood they'd purchased some existing version of DOS and then
>beefed it up in numerous ways including some degree of multi-tasking.

  The OS is available by purchasing the Book: "DR-DOS Complete" from
Caldera Press, press@Caldera.com
   The book has it on CD-ROM. Key features listed on the back of the
book:
   Genuine 100% compatible DOS. Licensed for both personal and commercial
use.
   Source Code Included. All system Source code is included.
   Year 2000 Compliant. The system will correct the system date. (this
needs qualifying since some app's do not rely on the Bios report for the
system date and so cannot be made Y2K compliant this way.)
   Multi-tasking. 386 and above.
   DOS Protected Mode Services (DPMS).
   Netware. A complete licensed version of personal Netware.
   Full set of DOS utilities.
   Disk Compression. Includes Stacker.
   Coexists with Windows 3.x and Win.95. Can't speak for Win.95, needs to
be tweaked a little for 3.1.
   Cost: $29.95.
   I don't work for Caldera. BUT. . .I"ve given up using deteriorating
floppy copies of various M$ Os'es. Its nice to have this on CD-ROM and
have the added bonus of not needing to keep track if I am  in technical
violation of my license agreements (too many copies running, which is an
upgrade and x's out the old version, etc.)
   Open Dos, a version  with Novel-Lite, was also available free for
download. I'm not sure if this is still up on their website.
   The OS is also available as a disk-image as part of Caldera's most
recent (2.2?) distribution of Linux for use with the DOS emulator.
                                                    Cheers,
                                                    Bob Perron

   Again, not an employee, just a user and observer.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:51:48 +0000
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Andreas,

Would you notice a crash?

Your reality/consciousness would stop too.

It a restart attempted to recover to the point just before or
immediately after the crash, it would explaind deja vu and
that annoying bit where you walk into a room and can't remember
what you went in for.

And don't people who come back from near-death experiences
mention seeing a blue screen?


> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > What happened if all this was _true_ and if MS wrote the whole =
Matrix?
> > ;-)

Andreas Garzotto replied:
> Not possible! Time goes fast and it did not crash since the last boot
> (big bang), which is quite some time ago.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:58:29 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: The Matrix

> Andreas,
>
> Would you notice a crash?
>
> Your reality/consciousness would stop too.
>
> It a restart attempted to recover to the point just before or
> immediately after the crash, it would explaind deja vu and
> that annoying bit where you walk into a room and can't remember
> what you went in for.

Ah, what was I going to say, damn another reality crash...

>
> And don't people who come back from near-death experiences
> mention seeing a blue screen?

Only M$ programmers.


You should check out the movie Dark City, it has a similar theme. Of
course in it the aliens are doing it all and they not only stop time
and rearrange things they reprogram the people a well, interesting
idea.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Well, there is a way to do this, but it takes a Trojan Horse.

Wouldn't about 20 million kids and post-kids love to have a full function
game machine in their pocket?  I mean real, PC games that they currently play
at home on their real PC's.

The "Game Machine" should have these characteristics:

    -  Fit in the pocket (i.e., 200LX form factor)
    -  Text, numeric, directional, and special purpose keys (i.e., 200LX
board)
    -  High resolutions display (wish list item)
    -  Fast 486 or pentium instruction set processor (best for the games)
    -  2 PC card slots.  One for communication and one for game ROM's
    -  Good battery life (can't die in the middle of the game!)
    - The rest of the "upgrade" wish list (pitched as game play features)

THEN  as an "Easter Egg" provide access to the DOS prompt., with full DOS
(6.2?) implementation.  Don't even mention it in the documentation.  Maybe if
its if "secret" some new kids will fall in love with it & join our merry
band, but that's just a bonus.

If our target audience is millions of gamers, instead of dozens of fogies,
the development costs are not a problem.  We just need a powerful mole inside
the gaming company to assure two things:

    1.  Our "Easter Egg" has got to be there.
    2.  One of the case colors needs to be non-hot_neon.  Black should be
cool for some gamers.

   8¬)

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:17:13 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
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I recently purchased a PCMCIA reader at a computer fair made by Cardwell
International Corp and marked as 82092AA evaluation board - Part no.
79-300071-000C. Unfortunately it did not come with any drivers and it seems
I need an MS-FLASH.SYS driver for CONFIG.SYS in order to access my flash
card from WIndows 95.

Can anybody help

TIA

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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:20:03 -0500, Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> =
wrote:
to> JFTR, I didn't reply to the survey because it seemed as if your
to> company's mind was made up already.  I can understand that but I =
didn't
to> want you to misunderstand silence on my part - and maybe others.

To add another (silent) voice:

I agree almost 100% with Terry. I extensively use HV at work and
at school. It is not my primary browser but it is _very_
useful to me. I store webpages for reference material and do my daily
news downloads (with WWW/LX) for later reading.
I didn't reply to the survey because I believe you when
you say HV is at its limits so didn't see the point of needlessly
adding to a wish list.

Regards,

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This is from the July 5th Forbes:  (they credit Dataquest for the source)

U.S. Palmtop Market

Company         Unit Shipments (1998)           Market Share (%)

3Com                    1,200,080                               56%
Sharp                   425,097                         20
HP                      123,050                         6
Phillips                106,200                         5
Psion                   76,587                          4
Other                   230,852                         11

The article is about the PalmPilot inventors' new company and doesn't
specifically break down figures for WindowsCE or other types of machines.
Draw your own conclusions about Hewlett-Packard.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:45:33 -0500
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Interesting.  For the first time, the other day, I let my 11-year old
daughter play around with "Hearts and Bones".  After about 20 minutes, she
was asking about how the DOS prompt works and what else she could do with it
...


>
> Wouldn't about 20 million kids and post-kids love to have a full function
> game machine in their pocket?  I mean real, PC games that they
> currently play
> at home on their real PC's.

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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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Why not make the replacement 200 in cast magnesium? Light and durable, and
very, very high in "flash factor". Make it an expensive executive's toy,
include aa Outlook sync app and price it way above anything else. If we are
such a cult here at HPLX, why not exploit that fact and make it just a tiny
bit difficult to join?

Those of you who remember the sad state of affairs at Harley Davidson (or
indeed at many British bike manufacturers) will know what I mean. They had
falling sales, quality and results untill they started exploiting their
image, upped their prices and made a solid product. Let's make a new case,
keep the dimentions and screen size, but make the product "right".
I would imagine that a a limited production, high quality LX could be sold
for USD 2000,- and that would be for the raw magnesium finish. A blue
enamel/magnesium finish will set you back an aditional USD 1000, whereas
the diamond studded version with gold embroidery starts at USD 5000 and up.
For Jeff and others who has to keep their LX's out of harms way there would
be a magnesium/leather version available that clips on to a shoulder
holster.

The magnesium case would of course be waterproof, certified to 50 metres,
and able to withstand a rifle bullet head on. (soft point ammunition only)
The batteries would last a month, making you annoyed that your GPS leaves
you stranded after only a week.
(BTW you HAVE to include a serial port - USB alone does not a palmtop
make!)

The unit would have a MP3 decoder, and headphone socket.

Hah! I can hear the raving reviews and the sound of money pouring in! We
would have to register our brand - LXPro - and our corporation - HPLX
Palmtops INC - in Corvallis. I suspect the clean air and fir trees are
partly to blame for a lifetime's worth of superior calculator products.
We would also have to take some photos of two guys with very long hair
standing in a driveway in front of an open garage (wearing khaki shorts)
and grinning sheepishly at the camera. (Any takers for the part?)

The story would go something like this: (complete with the usual mistakes)

"Corvallis drop-outs hits the big time in Paris with Hewlett-Packard
reject"
-from our corespondent
Frank and Joe - seen here in front of their rented garage cum factory -
recently struck a million dollar deal with Karl Lagerfelt to supply Chanels
first ever PDA. (Personal Diary Assistant) In what is seen as a bold move,
the Parisian perfume and haute-coiture giant launches a range of miniature
computer diaries that it says will make the design conscious woman of today
wear her PDA like any other accesoire. "It's time fashion and computers
merge" - says Largerfelt - "and Frank and Joe made it possible by making
the first really practical PDA."

The LXPro is based on blueprints the brothers found in a HP trash can when
working at the now defunct HP factory in Corvallis Orgeon.
"They were just lying there" - says Joe "and I guess we were just lucky to
be in the right spot at the right time!"

Their manager, Hall Goldstein, is pleased on the brother's behalf. "I have
supported PDA's since the beginning, and now it's paying off big time. We
will sell manufacturing rights to Sony this fall, and we will probably
surpass Netscape's growth rate when we go public some time in January."

Hewlett and Packard both declined to comment, being out flying with a
friend in Redmond when Lagerfelt called.

Have a good nights rest - to all of you list members in Europe. For the
rest of you, it's all right to day-dream too!

Cheers from
Paul Rasmussen

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:22:33 -0700
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Paal Rasmussen wrote:

> Frank and Joe - seen here in front of their rented garage cum factory

Dare I ask?

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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:45:34 -0500 Kurt Hopfensperger
<kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM> writes:
>This is from the July 5th Forbes:  (they credit Dataquest for the
>source)
>
>U.S. Palmtop Market
>
>Company         Unit Shipments (1998)           Market Share (%)
>
>3Com                    1,200,080                               56%
>Sharp                   425,097                         20
>HP                      123,050                         6
>Phillips                106,200                         5
>Psion                   76,587                          4
>Other                   230,852                         11
>
>The article is about the PalmPilot inventors' new company and doesn't
>specifically break down figures for WindowsCE or other types of
>machines.
>Draw your own conclusions about Hewlett-Packard.
>
>Kurt Hopfensperger
>
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:17:09 +0200, Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO> =
wrote:

> For Jeff and others who has to keep their LX's out of harms way there =
would
> be a magnesium/leather version available that clips on to a shoulder
> holster.

I still think that a quilted Kevlar(tm) would make a great covering for =
the
case. This way when the soft point ammo hits it, it won't splatter quite =
so
badly <g>.


> Frank and Joe - seen here in front of their rented garage cum factory -

Uh.... I don't knwo what to say here :-/

> The LXPro

Uh oh, Stefan better get a trademark on the name LXPro <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:00:02 -0700
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Subject:      Looking for BSOLVE.ADN for HP-200LX Lotus 1-2-3 v 2.4...
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     Hello Fellow Palmtoppers,



     I've heard there was a solver "add-in" for Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4
     that came with that version software, when purchased.  Does anyone
     have a copy of the solver that they can forward to me to try in my HP
     200-LX?

     I'd like to see if it can help me solve a nonlinear "circle curve fit"
     equation while the data is in Lotus.

     The following is a reply from Lotus...

          Dear Jim Clark,

          Unfortunately, 123 2.4 is obsolete and all stock has been
          depleted.  All add-on products are no longer available.  We
          apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

          If you have further questions, or need additional information,
          please visit the North American Customer Service Web site at:
          http://www.lotus.com/customer.nsf/framedocs/uscanhome

          Regards,
          Lotus Customer Service



     Jim Clark

     J_Clark@HP.com

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:20:32 -0600
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Looks like 118mm x 44mm. That comes out to
  640/118 = 5.42 pixels/mm H
  200/44  = 4.54 pixels/mm V
in round numbers -- not manufacturer's numbers.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

"R. Christopher Lott" wrote:

> Okay, here's a question I haven't been able to figure out on my own:
>
> What's the *exact* screen resolution, both vertically and horizontally,
> in the 640x200 graphics mode?  I'm looking for the precise dimensions
> of the screen, from left-most to right-most pixel, or pixel density in
> pixels-per-inch(or cm).  Is this info published somewhere?
>
> -Chris
>
> p.s.  I have measured it, but the answer I get isn't satisfying.  I'd
> like to find out the manufacturer's specification.
>
> --
>
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In a message dated 7/12/99 6:47:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM writes:

> he article is about the PalmPilot inventors' new company and doesn't
>  specifically break down figures for WindowsCE

Kurt, it doesn't have to.  What these figures tell us is that WinCE has less
than 25 percent of the market, and the true figure is probably closer to 20
percent.  They also tell us what advertising can do when a company is
determined to promote its product aggressively.

-roger-

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In a message dated 7/12/99 8:52:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jeffj@SCOTT.NET
writes:

> I still think that a quilted Kevlar(tm) would make a great covering for the
>  case. This way when the soft point ammo hits it, it won't splatter quite so
>  badly <g>.

It's good to know that our naftion's law enforcement personnel would think
only of these important things at such times.  <g>

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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:21:57 EDT, Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> wrote:

> It's good to know that our naftion's law enforcement personnel would =
think
> only of these important things at such times.  <g>

Well, if you are standing next to me and a round hits my armored LX, I =
don't
want you to get hurt by the lead which splatters when unjacketed bullets
hit a metallic target.

Jeff

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In a message dated 7/12/99 10:03:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sdowell@HARRAHS.COM writes:

> This morning an alarm went off while I was 'Remkey'd' to my palmtop. The
>  alarm won't quit! I push esc, space, nothing!  I have tried a soft
>  reboot, and a hard reboot (without initializing ram). It still comes up
>  with the alarm going off.

Did you try rebooting and choosing opton 5?

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http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

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In a message dated 7/12/99 9:42:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@ftel.net
writes:

> We begin to see a deep dissatisfaction growing even among the
>  die-hard Mincrosoft users.

You've begun.  I haven't been on CompuServe in five years but I remember
bitter complaints in their forums from ten years ago concerning both Word and
Project.

> They are unhappy that they have to
>  upgrade constantly just to stay running. Even if the upgrades
>  cost less and less (Bill Gates _is_ right on that point) The
>  fact that they have to continue paying is an irritant and
>  lowers the financial productivity of any enterprise.

It's not just the continual shelling out of money, although this is much more
of an irritant for individuals than it is for corporate enterprises. The
latter do not simply place their orders and install as soon as they can rip
the shrinkwrap off the boxes.  They test -- and well they should given the
source -- before putting that software in a live production environment and
staking their business operations on its performance.  This consumes time and
resources.  This may be part of what BG refers to when he talks about jobs
being dependent upon the success of M$, but I hope not because it represents
a tremendous drain in productivity.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:12:06 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Renamed:  When the Radio Shack 100 was dropped <kinda long>

>I would love to have seen the threads when Radio Shack killed off their
>100 (was it?) portable.  I'm sure much of this is a carbon copy.

I've got a BUNCH of 100s and similar gear İthey were the "Radio Shack Model
100" and "Tandy 102" there was also a 200-series that, AFAIK, was the first
clam-shell laptop. The 100/102s were older but didn't open up .... Imagine a
3-ring binder w/ a keyboard and 4-line, 40 column screen, all built into the
same part of one outside surface (you couldn't open it like a binder, but it
was that size). The ports were almost all along the "spine" or back and you
could add additional RAM and some ROM programs thru the bottom.  Built in
were BASIC, an ASCII editor, a telecom program and an address book or
scheduler of sorts İthey presented ways to sort lines of data to be your
schedule or addr. book; the 200 series had a spreadsheet, if I remember
correctly (I've dug out the 102, but not the others). The 102 was a bit
thinner/lighter and saw use even in grad. school <1994/5> -- I could attach
it to my old "Brick" cell phone and access CompuServe, etc. in ASCII mode,
guess *THAT* doesn't really exist anymore. And, I could dial-into the
university VAX to use PINE for email and what was the text-based
UNIX/DEC/VAX web browser, Lynx(?) .... can't get very far with that anymore
either....

4 AA batteries could get you 10 straight hours of computing time, easy. The
built-in 300 baud modem may've dropped that time a bit, but you had months
of stand-by and could back up to cassette.... Anyone getting nostalgic? ...
"That was when a baud was a baud" <grin> Now we *HAVE* to use "bps" 'cause
smart folks, like those on this list, figured out how to encode more than
one bit into the oscillation we called baud... poor Emile ... (but I
digress<g>).

My point here is that these computers "died" *before* I started buying and
using them(!). Dunno exactly when they stopped the market, but the built in
BASIC displays an M$ copyright of 1983. I couldn't even imagine owning one,
while they were on the market.

I couldn't afford them when they were on the market, the built in ROM
programs didn't do what I needed, when they were on the shelf for over
$1000, and I didn't have anything they could "talk" to..... Later, when I
had computers that could understand and "shape" the ASCII documents I could
build on these gadgets, they became very useful. I was even able to use the
modem and cell phone to submit an ASCII version of a side-bar to a friend's
book, when the phone lines were too cruddy İline noise 'til they replaced a
local trunk¨ for my Pentium computer and "modern" 33.3 (I think) modem to
hang on....

I was able to get help, support, etc. on a CompuServe forum that recently
went by the wayside İI have a hunch it was when the forums ported over to
non-ascii mode, but that's a guess - I know they held out for as long as
they could regarding that change and don't know why the forum went away...
If any of y'all are out there <or an LX-listmember can forward my regards,
if you know where to send them> You were all GREAT(!) and, "Have you
considered getting a 200LX? The upgrades are pretty cool!"

There wasn't a 100/102 LISTSERV list, like this one, that I knew of and I
only heard rumors of a newsgroup, but it took a LONG time for the CIS forum
to vanish, and remember that would've only been available to CIS members.
Now *this* list is open to all Internet users, as is the HPLX special
newsgroup (to all who register). The support channels are better İlook at
all the websites, developers, Newsletters like <Free Plug> Thaddeus </free
plug> ... no, I don't work for them ... I'd never have a paycheck (but I'd
have a lot of toys....).

I think the "demise" of the 200LX may make them more popular than ever, I
predict the resale market may drop someday İI got my Tandy 200 series for
free <which got me hooked> and the 100/102s for about $100 each¨, but the
200LX won't drop as much, ESPECIALLY since there are rebuild/upgrade
channels out there that are several orders of magnitude better than what the
RS/Tandy critters had available.  AND, the pile of 200LX affectionados seems
to be much larger, as is the HUGE pool of DOS free/share/buy ware out there
İI had to hunt for the few programs I had/used *AND* I paid a premium for
the ROM writing/utility modules for the 102, while I can get a BETTER
**FREE** word processor in PE <nothing that I had for the 100/102, etc., had
spell check....>¨.

Aside from this trip down gadget-memory lane, I imagine that the 200LX İand
even earlier models 95/100 and all the 1000s out there¨ will enjoy longer
life-after-death and even 'twilight' years and even grow in power and
popularity now that they've been discontinued.....  I echo some of the
things I've seen/heard on the list in that I can't wait to see what's next
İas long as it's not WinCE ;-)  ¨.

Cheers,

--tim

PS. Anyone interested in a *cherry* Model 100, in the briefcase, w/ an
original RS tape recorder?  I think I did pay 125 or 150 for it and will
still sell it for $100 <grin>. Heck, I'll even toss in a battery operated
floppy drive İdon't get excited, it's a low-density, NON-dos critter w/ a
proprietary interface....¨. That 100 was my 3rd back-up in case my other two
died and they haven't, plus I don't use them a lot anymore; Heck I've got my
200LX! ..... Isn't THAT a hint that the 200LX will outlast our need?????

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:58:30 EDT
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In a message dated 7/12/99 9:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jeffj@SCOTT.NET
writes:

> Well, if you are standing next to me and a round hits my armored LX, I don't
>  want you to get hurt by the lead which splatters when unjacketed bullets
>  hit a metallic target.

Not to worry, Jeff, because I'll either be cowering behind you or three miles
West before they hit!

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:53:33 EDT
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In a message dated 7/12/99 12:04:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:

> Excellant letter and about right. I think they should pay us to take to
make
> up
>  for the lost productivity.

John, thanks but I didn't ask them to pay us.  I offered to buy three
(outrageously expensive) batteries, not spend my savings on a competing
product, and buy their next upgrade if I was satisfied that I could do the
same things I do on the LX.  I thought it was a fair offer.  I received no
official response.  But I'll up the offer so no one can criticize:  I'll make
it three *extended* batteries, instead of the standards, because I definitely
know I'm going to need them. :-|)

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:31:36 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Check this out! Its a i386 the size of a pager with email capabilities
that runs on one "AA" battery!

http://www.rim.net

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:37:57 EDT
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In a message dated 7/12/1999 10:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Feinmanr@aol.com writes:

> I remember
>  bitter complaints in their forums from ten years ago concerning both Word
> and
>  Project.
>
>  > They are unhappy that they have to
>  >  upgrade constantly just to stay running.

Why do they do it at all??  Why not run the Corel WordPerfect suite instead?
I recently spent $80 to upgrade to WP 2000 Suite, because I want to support
them.  The old stuff worked just fine.  My office is 100% M$ Office, but I
have NEVER had a problem using Word, Excel, or Power Point files.  Better
still, I've never had to worry about Word Viruses.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:35:20 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Pop Goes the Weasel

My 3-year old requests an alarm sound to play "Pop Goes the Weasel".
Anyone already have one written out?

Also, I'm looking for a good Word Perfect icon if you've got one.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - If that LXPro idea comes off and a long-hair is needed for the
garage business photo-op, I've got hair to my waist, wire-rim glasses,
and three-day growth of beard.  Of course, I'm a conservative,
religious-wacko gun-owner with 3.3 kids and am in law school so I may be
a bit too confusing for the part.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:44:28 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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PNR by Rob Whitby is great. I used it successfully to download my
email from out of town this weekend. Now I can keep tabs on my
HPLX-L and other email when I'm away from the desktop. Before I'd
have to wait 3 to 5 days to come home and download the mail
(sometimes 300 to 400 HPLX-L messages!).
I like the way it threads and unthreads at the push of a function
key and the fonts are just what I needed, that cc:Mail didn't do well.
The LXPOP/PNR combo is my email program of choice even without any more
upgrading. In my opinion, PNR really gives the other email programs
some stiff competition and you can't beat the price!

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:32:33 EDT
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In a message dated 7/12/99 10:42:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Cavendishl@aol.com writes:

> Why do they do it at all??  Why not run the Corel WordPerfect suite instead?

I don't know about the latest version, but I recently had occasion to use the
last one for a very lengthy document and was extremely dissatisfied with the
way it handled a big file with lots of graphics and counters -- as I usually
am with WinWord in similar contexts.  You may have the luxury of departing
from the norm in your shop, but in most corporate and professional firms that
kind of thing is frowned upon.  The short answer to your question, however,
is that, just as no one used to get fired for buying IBM, no one gets fired
for buying Microsoft, and they gained an obvious edge in the market during
the ownership turnovers of the WP/Paradox suite.

-roger-

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:34:25 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Renamed:  When the Radio Shack 100 was dropped <kinda long>

Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO writes:

> guess *THAT* doesn't really exist anymore. And, I could dial-into the
> university VAX to use PINE for email and what was the text-based
> UNIX/DEC/VAX web browser, Lynx(?) .... can't get very far with that
> anymore either....

My internet shell account dropped their VMS service a few years
ago (1995?) but I still use Lynx and Pine quite a bit on their
Unix server.  Lynx beats the heck out of either Netscape or IE
for many purposes.

Ted


--
Theodore Heise     <theise@netins.net>     West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:17:59 -0400
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$25 or trade?
mike
riley@iglou.com

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:29:13 EDT
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In a message dated 7/12/99 9:42:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:

> Makes you wonder why HP is doing this. If anything they should be
developing
> it
>  more along the lines of the world's smallest notebook. The financial
> community
>  is one of the targeted groups of the 200LX. If it is still big there the
> market
>  isn't gone at all.

FWIW, my theory is this has nothing to do with market surveys, sales figures,
expiring contracts, possible material supply problems, etc., etc.  Companies
change as their personnel change and new people want to stake out their own
territory with new products.  Somebody has lunch with somebody else.  WinCE
is either demonstrated or discussed.  My, oh my, isn't this cool?  Or,
strategic alliances are formed in one area of a company's operations that
impact it in other areas.  Life does not always make perfect sense.

-roger-

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:03:57 -0700
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From:         Ripin Pen <ripin@DNET.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: initialization string help
Comments: To: hpstaber@CSI.COM

Hans Peter Staber writes:
> John Carlo,
>
> > if I type this string at the DOS prompt I get 'bad command or file
> > name'...where is this string useful?
>
> I do not recall your original problem but will guess : you need a
> working intialization string for your modem. It's not a DOS command -
> it belongs to a communication program.
>
> A very short one is     AT&F
>
> A more elaborate is     AT&F&C1&D2
>
> One that helps in hotels is AT&F&X3
>
> These init strings are used in communication programs and scripts and
> you should be able to understand the command by looking into the doc's
> of your modem. After this init string the modem is activated and ready
> to accept the next command which typically is the telephone number that
> you want it to dial.
>
> The init string has to be entered into the "Modem initialization
> string" field of your datacom software setup. In the case of WWW/LX you
> have to go to the directory of this program and type wwwsetup/enter and
> then again setup/enter. This brings you to your loggin setups where you
> enter the string into the appropriate field.
>
>
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
>
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:59:45 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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David Sargeant wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Paal Rasmussen wrote:
>> Frank and Joe - seen here in front of their rented garage cum factory
>
>Dare I ask?

I think hyphens are required, especially in this case:
"garage-cum-factory".

Unless Frank and Joe are redefining "palmtop".

--=20
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:07:10 -0800
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Well, with only 1 hour before Monday is over, I got the beginnings of a design
for the new browser done up. I've decided to try and compromise on the method
of distrbuting this; rather than upload it to the list, I'vd posted it on the
web, at http://www.sfu.ca/~rtmcbrid/HPLynX/ (It works with HV :-)

Please, feel free to comment, suggest features, or otherwise affect the
process.

Avi, you were right. We're going to have to spend a little time on the design
of this project :-) I came do realize this as I was drafting things up. I feel
that there are two major reasons for this:

1) The coding will be easier to do and to co-ordinate between developers.
2) If the HPLX replacement project ever comes to fruition, we'll want to have
it designed well enough that it will be trivial to port over to that platform.

-Ryan

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:34:40 +0800
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Just had a very quick browsed thru the features and I'd already fallen in
love with it. Can't wait to try it.

Thanks in a million.

Roger S.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:01:38 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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The beauty of the LX is its size.
We should try to avoid increasing it. As I have pointed out in another
post, I feel the real crunch is the keyboard. The other stuff is old hat,
and just takes the resolve to do it.
I would much prefer a metal case to plastic - tooling costs are down and
reliability is up.

BTW the LX case seems to be injection moulded in ABS plastic - a cheap and
cheerful way of producing things when strength doesn't enter into the
equation. I would NOT want to copy that for the LXPro.

Cheers,
Paul Rasmussen

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> From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Making a replacement for the 200
> Date: 9. juli 1999 20:51
> be less on a custom enclosure once the molds or stamps are made, if they
expect a
> lot of repeat business. Do you know if the HP case is poured?
> How much could it possibly cost to make a couple of molds though<g>.

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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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Thank you Curtis!
It is amazing what a missing dash can do to spice up an otherwise boring
story!
And to you other guys: Shame on you!

- Paul Rasmussen

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> From: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Demise of HP200
> Date: 13. juli 1999 06:59
>
> David Sargeant wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Paal Rasmussen wrote:
> >> Frank and Joe - seen here in front of their rented garage cum factory
> >
> >Dare I ask?
>
> I think hyphens are required, especially in this case:
> "garage-cum-factory".
>
> Unless Frank and Joe are redefining "palmtop".
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron
> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
>
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:46:22 +0200
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Hi!
I am not sure it'll have to be expensive to tool up. It's a question of
price per unit versus # of units produced. I have in a lighter vein,
suggested that the case be produced in cast magnesium or milled from a
block of aluminium. The former method would require tooling, whereas the
latter would only require you to program the NC milling machinery. A thir=
d
alternative is to use extruded aluminium parts, but that would require a
(plastic?) insert at the ends. Tooling costs for this last solution would
be appx 7-10' USD here in Norway.
So you see, my worry is not the case at all, but rather the keyboard. I
have through the years never found a better compromise keyboard than the
200, even though I type in Norwegian and miss dedicated keys for the =C6=D8=
=C5
characters, and I know the keys lack the proper "feel". Still they are ha=
rd
to improve upon, and when driving in my Toyota MR2 *) I appreciate the
positive "click" - it keeps my eyes on the road! (Hear that, Jeff!) **)

Anyway, the expensive bit is to produce the keyboard. Someone close to HP
should inquire about buying them from HP for the first batches of LXPro's.
When it's a success it'll be easier to tool up for the Mk II.

My second concern would be the screen; 1/4 VGA is becoming a rarity, and
some clever s/w would have to be written scaling a standard VGA res. down
to 1/4 size. As regards the circuit board with components - it's basicall=
y
a few days of round the clock work by two enthusiasts. Yes, I may
volunteer!

Regarding the systems design, I'm all in favour of keeping the specs down
to a level where we can make it happen without too much hassle. It seems =
to
be a fact of life that 386 processors do not come in high integration
packages with low power consumption. There will be enough debugging to do
anyway. Caldera openDOS would be my first choice for a OS, and I would be
quite happy with Lotus 1-2-3 v2.4 (or As easy as) and Agenda v.2 + Foxpro.
All run like lightning. I would like a new driver for the IR port so that
it could mate with a IR->ethernet adapter. This would also be used to
interface with a cell phone for mobile communications.


* (a very similar product to the HP200LX - amazing that the automotive
giant Toyota would bring out a world class sports car - predictable that =
it
was replaced by a more bloated MkII a few years later. - sounds familiar?=
?)

** (Read in a British newspaper about a man jailed for reading his
newspaper whilst driving 80mph overtaking a patrol car. Wouldn't want tha=
t
to happen to a list memeber!)=20

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> From: Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Making a replacement for the 200
> Date: 9. juli 1999 17:06
>=20
> I've been giving the hardware design for a 200 replacement some thought
> lately, and what I keep running into is the prohibitive cost of tooling
up a
> case to handle a screen, keyboard, etc.
>=20
> So, here is my proposal for a solution. Comments and refinements are
> welcome.
>=20
> Processor Core: Vadem VG230 ($50 - my guess, they don't say on the web
site)

Regards.
Paul Rasmussen

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The IR is not used a lot because:
There is a hassle getting the correct s/w
Laptops have their IR at the back, making it akward to use (unless you've
got a rubber neck!)
Cellulars are just beginning to come out with IR support
IR is just coming out on motherboards, many still have to have external
transceivers.
So, my guess is that in 2 years IR will be the thing to have if your'e on
the move.

Cheers,

Paul Rasmussen

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> From: Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Making a replacement for the 200
> Date: 9. juli 1999 20:02
> >IR: Does anybody really use this?
>
> Never have.
>

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:46:01 +0200
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Compaq patents a keyboard that captures your kinetic energy. Magnets and
coils on each key charge a small battery to augment the big one in your
laptop.

Have a look at www.slashdot.org.

br

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:42:18 -0400
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Message text written by INTERNET:JIM_CLARK@HP-CORVALLIS-OM3.OM.HP.COM
>a solver "add-in" for Lotus 1-2-3 <

Are you ignoring the built-in link between HP Calc/Solver and 1-2-3 for
some particular reason? Doesn't that work for your problem of nonlinear
curve fitting?

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Subject:      Re: HPLynX - New Palmtop Browser
Comments: To: rtmcbrid@SFU.CA

** Reply to note from Ryan McBride <rtmcbrid@SFU.CA> 07/12/99 11:07pm -0800

This is a very positive step!! Wish I was a programmer and could help out!
Can't wait to use it!

John

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF:Open Ltr to HP & M$
Comments: To: Feinmanr@AOL.COM

** Reply to note from Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> 07/12/99  9:53pm EDT


> In a message dated 7/12/99 12:04:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:
>
> > Excellant letter and about right. I think they should pay us to take to
> make
> > up
> >  for the lost productivity.
>
> John, thanks but I didn't ask them to pay us.  I offered to buy three
> (outrageously expensive) batteries, not spend my savings on a competing
> product, and buy their next upgrade if I was satisfied that I could do the
> same things I do on the LX.  I thought it was a fair offer.  I received no
> official response.  But I'll up the offer so no one can criticize:  I'll make
> it three *extended* batteries, instead of the standards, because I definitely
> know I'm going to need them. :-|)

Roger

Oops on my part, the part about them paying us was just an addeum on my part.
Three batteries is about right, it would give us the equivilent life expectency
we get now with the 200<g>. Do you have an email address for hp where we can
send our comments? I looked on their web page but didn't find one. I'd really
like to comment to them about this.

John

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Subject:      Re: Sales figures

** Reply to note from Kurt Hopfensperger <kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM> 07/12/99  5:45pm -0500


> HP                      123,050                         6

I wonder how many 200LX's? 10000, 20000, 50000? There's over 1000 alone on this list with
people buying all the time. I wonder why 3COM sells so many PP's compared to the rest. It
can do a lot but it lacks so much like a pc card slot for data. Cheaper?

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Comments: To: pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM

** Reply to note from Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM> 07/12/99  3:40pm -0700


> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:20:03 -0500, Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> wrote:
> to> JFTR, I didn't reply to the survey because it seemed as if your
> to> company's mind was made up already.  I can understand that but I didn't
> to> want you to misunderstand silence on my part - and maybe others.
>
> To add another (silent) voice:
>
> I agree almost 100% with Terry. I extensively use HV at work and
> at school. It is not my primary browser but it is _very_
> useful to me. I store webpages for reference material and do my daily
> news downloads (with WWW/LX) for later reading.
> I didn't reply to the survey because I believe you when
> you say HV is at its limits so didn't see the point of needlessly
> adding to a wish list.
>

Just to throw in one more, I wasn't on the survey either, I didn't find out about
it til too late, but I probably wouldn't have answered because the last time I
discussed upgrading HV he said it was impossible. I would love to see it upgraded
though and would pay for it.

John

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:09:59 -0400
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I have one of the Accton EN2216-1 PCMCIA network interface
cards for the palmtop now.  I have read the article by NORI
from The HP Palmtop Paper (as duplicated on HPLX.NET) and I
really don't understand it too well.

I want to use the card to connect to my LAN at home which is a
simple Win95 Peer-to-Peer setup running TCP/IP (it could run
NETBEUI also if needed).  I would like to be able to transfer
files between my palmtop and the Win95 machines on my home
LAN.

I would also like to connect to my LAN at work which is
running WinNT 4.0, SP4 with TCP/IP and NetBEUI.  I want to be
able to do simple file transfers here also by mapping a
palmtop drive letter to a network shared folder.  It would be
cool to be able to use the LAN to get on the Internet with
WWW/LX Plus also.  I wonder if the Exchange for DOS client
will run on the palmtop for my corporate Email.

First question, do I really need the 2216HP.ZIP file refered
to in the article to do Win95 connectivity?  And if I so,
where can I get it from, I am not on NiftyServe?  I was able
to get all of the other files mentioned in the article.

Second question, Given what I would like to do above, can
someone explain things a little better on what I really need
for the basic Win95 connectivity I desire.  All I really need
to be able to do is to map a drive letter on the palmtop to
some shared network folder.  Then I can just use Filer, etc.
for transferring files.

Any and all help will be appreciated.  Thanks.


Stan

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Subject:      Re: PNR, a pleased user!

** Reply to note from Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET> 07/12/99 11:44pm -0400

Isn't PNR/lxpop great? And its very well supported too. Not bad for a "freeware"
emailer!

John

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:23:57 EST
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200

Addressed to: Feinmanr@aol.com
              <hplx-l@uconnvm.uconn.edu>

** Reply to note from Feinmanr@aol.com 07/13/99 12:08am EDT

> In a message dated 7/12/99 9:42:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:
>
> > Makes you wonder why HP is doing this. If anything they should be
> developing
> > it
> >  more along the lines of the world's smallest notebook. The financial
> > community
> >  is one of the targeted groups of the 200LX. If it is still big there the
> > market
> >  isn't gone at all.
>
> FWIW, my theory is this has nothing to do with market surveys, sales figures,
> expiring contracts, possible material supply problems, etc., etc.  Companies
> change as their personnel change and new people want to stake out their own
> territory with new products.  Somebody has lunch with somebody else.  WinCE
> is either demonstrated or discussed.  My, oh my, isn't this cool?  Or,
> strategic alliances are formed in one area of a company's operations that
> impact it in other areas.  Life does not always make perfect sense.

Yes, a lot of times its what people want to work on and what they see as
saleable. Although I think an organizer just a little more expensive than the
palmpilot that could run Windoze98, running on two AA cells would be very
saleable. Of course that would take some innovation<g> something that doesn't fit
with the HP name anymore as we can see from the latest post on their sales
figures. Jumping on the CE bandwagon may have been a mistake for them. As I
understand it CE isn't doing very well. I have heard there is a lot of resistance
to it in one of the targeted markets, the embedded market. To be honest, I hope
HP does well with their descions. They have been a good company for many years
with an excellant reputation although they may have changed a little they
probably have a good foudation still.

John

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:28:59 EDT
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From:         Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
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In a message dated 7/13/99 7:21:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:

> To be honest, I hope
>  HP does well with their descions. They have been a good company for many
> years
>  with an excellant reputation although they may have changed a little they
>  probably have a good foudation still.

Oh, really?  I hope they go into receivership, and that the children of their
employees are left running naked and hungry in the streets.  I want to walk
through the rubble of their headquarters after demolition crews have gutted
its insides.

-roger-

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:39:04 -0400
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I encloase a bit of correspondence i had with the folks at
newdealinc.com.

i thought it might solve a problem i had with my officemates, who
seem to never send clear text email but only seem to send msword
attachments . . . oh well

Regards
T



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Date sent:              Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:55:22 -0700
To:                     notpotter.bedfordfalls@ibm.net, webmaster@newdealinc.com
From:                   Steve Main <steve@newdealinc.com>
Subject:                Re: New Deal and the HP 200 LX

Hi, Tony!

Some of our customers run NewDeal on the HP LX 100
or 200 series palmtops. NewDeal is the newest
version of the software formerly known as
Geoworks Ensemble or PC/Geos.

We normally recommend a 286 or higher processor,
but the software will actually work fine with an
80186, albeit slowly. NewDeal's email client will
probably not provide any better support for MS Word
enclosures than whatever other software you are
comparing it to... that's an area we are working
on for improvement in future versions of the email
client.

Steve Main
Dir Tech Services, NewDeal

At 7/12/99, notpotter.bedfordfalls@ibm.net wrote:
>
> Will newdeal run on a hp 200lx?
>    * the  200lx is an 80186 machine that can be double clocked to 16 mhz
>    * it runs msdos v5
>    * it comes standard with 2 mb ram (only 640 seen by MSDOS v 5) hobbyist
>    have loaded it up to 32 mb internal ram, (everything over 640k looks like
>    a disk)
>    * it has a pcmcia slot that i use to run a 48mb flash disk
>    * people have run GEOS on it
>
> it has a very active community of users (alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp and a mail
> list  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU) that would love a web browser and email
> software, especially if that email software it properly handled msword
> enclosures/attachments, (present software does not handle MS enclosures
well)
>
>
> thanks for taking the time and Regards
> Tony Corso
> tony@corso.net
>
>

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Subject:      Re: Demise of HP200
Comments: To: Feinmanr@AOL.COM

** Reply to note from Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> 07/13/99 07:28am EDT


> In a message dated 7/13/99 7:21:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:
>
> > To be honest, I hope
> >  HP does well with their descions. They have been a good company for many
> > years
> >  with an excellant reputation although they may have changed a little they
> >  probably have a good foudation still.
>
> Oh, really?  I hope they go into receivership, and that the children of their
> employees are left running naked and hungry in the streets.  I want to walk
> through the rubble of their headquarters after demolition crews have gutted
> its insides.
>

And have it caused by using CE. Think of the black spot that would put on the M$
record<g>.

John

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:51:03 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Look what someone did to a PalmPilot case-
http://209.220.167.10/palm/palm1.jpg
<http://209.220.167.10/palm/palm1.jpg>

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Paal Rasmussen İSMTP:paal@AH.TELIA.NO¨
        Sent:   Monday, July 12, 1999 4:17 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Demise of HP200

        Why not make the replacement 200 in cast magnesium? Light and
durable, and
        very, very high in "flash factor". Make it an expensive
executive's toy,
        include aa Outlook sync app and price it way above anything
else. If we are
        such a cult here at HPLX, why not exploit that fact and make it
just a tiny
        bit difficult to join?

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:35 -0400
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Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:37:54 -0500 (EST)

06h30m44s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Ryan McBride wrote:

> Well, with only 1 hour before Monday is over, I got the beginnings of a =
design
> for the new browser done up. I've decided to try and compromise on the =
method
> of distrbuting this; rather than upload it to the list, I'vd posted it =
on the
> web, at http://www.sfu.ca/~rtmcbrid/HPLynX/ (It works with HV :-)
>
> Please, feel free to comment, suggest features, or otherwise affect the
> process...

   This is exactly what I was thinking about! It would be fantasitc if
   the collective "grey matter" of this group could make this project
   a reality. I feel it is possible if we can muster some more
   enthusiasm...it will take more that 40 of us to show an interest ;-)

   What a way to celebrate the new millenium!

   As far as suggested additional features, I didn't see any mention of
   HTTPS or SSL, I think many would like secure site/page access.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:09:45 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Subject:      X-Copy like program
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If I try to download (from SUPER, the newest files) the
"X-Copy-Like-Program" for use with X-Finder, I get only one line of
text-rubbish in my browser???

Regards, Axel
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:23:07 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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IR sure is nice when I want to print on my HP6P. Point and shoot! Look ma, no
wires!

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Paal Rasmussen wrote:

> The IR is not used a lot because:
> There is a hassle getting the correct s/w
> Laptops have their IR at the back, making it akward to use (unless you've
> got a rubber neck!)
> Cellulars are just beginning to come out with IR support
> IR is just coming out on motherboards, many still have to have external
> transceivers.
> So, my guess is that in 2 years IR will be the thing to have if your'e on
> the move.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul Rasmussen
>
> ----------
> > From: Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Making a replacement for the 200
> > Date: 9. juli 1999 20:02
> > >IR: Does anybody really use this?
> >
> > Never have.
> >
>
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Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:22:27 -0400 (EDT)

01h46m42s ....>> in the future <<....
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> If I try to download (from SUPER, the newest files) the
> "X-Copy-Like-Program" for use with X-Finder, I get only one line of
> text-rubbish in my browser???

Hmmm - don't know what the problem with the SUPER link is, but you can
get the file from:
        http://www.vector.co.jp/common/00tools/zcopy.com

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:04:31 GMT
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From:         David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
Subject:      DOS emulator for Psion

In addition to their being a DOS emulator for Win CE there is also
one available for the Psion at:

http://www.nb-info.co.uk/xtminfo.htm

On the new Psion 5mx it's faster than the orginal XT was but much
slower than a normal HP 200LX.


I copied this info from the site (I'm sure the table is mangled)

XTM Performance
If you are less than 30 years old, you probably don't remember just
how slow the original IBM PC was. Your Pentium desktop machine
today is probably about 500 times the raw CPU speed of an IBM
PC/XT. That means something your Pentium calculates today in a very
acceptable 3 seconds would have taken 25 minutes on a PC/XT!
Having reminded you how slow a PC/XT was - XTM is similar, but can
be slower, especially the graphics performance. Anything written
for the XT which runs in text mode will be just fine. Any real-time
or graphic intensive game written for a later platform will be grim.
Here's a table showing approximate performance of XTM and some
other popular platforms compared to the original IBM PC/XT. The
"Sieve" benchmark is a trivial program made popular by BYTE
magazine in the 1980's.

Relative Benchmark Performance

                IBM PC/XT       HP 200LX        IBM PC/AT
Pentium PC      XTM Series 5            XTM 5mx
Sieve           1.0             2.2             3.5             480
                0.64                    1.43
Integer Math    1.0             4.1             7.7             1050
                1.28                    2.72

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Does anyone know if JKIt can be installed or run from the C drive on a double
speeded 200LX.
TIA
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Paal Rasmussen wrote:

> Thank you Curtis!
> It is amazing what a missing dash can do to spice up an otherwise boring
> story!
> And to you other guys: Shame on you!

Shame on US?  Talk to Frank and Joe.  <g,d&r>

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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The complete supremacy of the slower F-15 Eagle fighter over the much faster MIG
-25 should remind us that raw speed isn't always the determining factor in
getting the job done.

- Longden  (definitely over 30)





David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG> on 07/13/99 12:04:31 AM

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Subject:  DOS emulator for Psion




If you are less than 30 years old, you probably don't remember just
how slow the original IBM PC was. Your Pentium desktop machine
today is probably about 500 times the raw CPU speed of an IBM

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:47:11 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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I know someone mentioned this a little while back, but I want to bring
it up again.  PKWARE has released an updated DOS PKZIP program version
2.50.  The last version was 2.04g dated 2-1-93.  I have ran a few tests
on this new version and have not found any problems running it on my X2
LX.

Here is the results of two tests I ran.

The first consisted of zipping everything in my "C" drive and storing
it on my "A" drive flash card.  There were 263 files totaling 1,534,526
bytes on my "C" drive (yes I run very lean on my upgraded X2 8 meg LX).
Here are the results of the first test:
2.04g zipped to 1,014,172 in 3 min, 38 sec using -ex option
2.50  zipped to 1,027,215 in 3 min, 41 sec using the new -exx option

The second consisted of zipping everything from a sub-directory on my
"A" drive and storing it on my "A" drive flash card.  There were 27
files totaling 420,984 bytes in that sub-directory.
Here are the results of the second test:
2.04g zipped to 153,102 in 59 sec using -ex option
2.50  zipped to 152,804 in 1 min, 3 sec using -exx option

My quick summary was that 2.50 appears to be slightly slower, and may
or may not save additional disk space by using the new -exx option
which is the extreme maximum compression option.  It was so close that
I decided to start using 2.50.  I use it nightly to backup the entire
contents of my "C" drive to a different sub-directory on my "A" drive
flash card.  I have also tested to make sure that PKUNZIP works on my
LX and it does just fine.

If you read the .txt files that come with the new 2.50, it states that
system requirements are a: x86/pentium processor, but that appears not
to be the case.  I am sure that all the extended features such as using
the extended memory features of the newer processors won't work on the
LX, but I don't see any problems using the latest version.  It has been
a great many years since PKZIP for DOS has been updated.

Also I did notice that the new version allows for 4 digit year storage,
and I wonder if that is one of the reasons that PKWARE decided to
finally update their program that has not been updated in over 6 years,
to make way for Y2K.  Anyway just thought I would pass this along.  I
use PKWARE not only for nightly backups, but everything on my flash
card is zipped, and I use batch programs to unzip them when I need
them, and than re-zip them when I am done with them.  I guess that
super disk saving way that I use my LX with my flash cards is my A.R.T.
(anal retentive thing), but I enjoy squeezing everything I can from my
LX, and because of this storage has never been an issue for me.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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I downloaded the new PE 2.2 from D&A's website and have been
experiencing some strange problems.  I have the PE files & PICK.EXE
located in: C:\PE.  When I launch PE from system manager, the PICK
screen comes up first to ask me what file to open.  If I hit ESC at
that first PICK screen, my LX locks up tight.  I have to use
CTRL-ALT-DEL to recover.  My previous version of PE did not do this.

After rebooting, and I launch PE again I get a pop-up window telling
me that PE is already open, with the choices of ignore or abort.  If I
choose ignore I get back to the first PICK screen again, if I chose
abort it exits me back to system manager.

Also if I launch PE and the first PICK window comes up, and I hit
enter which takes me to the PICK file menu, and I choose the cancel
button, I get the same results as above, I am locked up tight.

I have been using a blank.doc file located in my C:\PE directory that
I have the attributes set to read-only, that I use when the pick asks
me what file to open, so that I can come up to a blank document when
first opening PE.  I am using the nofiddle.com program in my
autoexec.bat file to prevent system manager from interfering with PE.
Has anyone got any suggestions?  Can anyone else repeat this problem
of mine?

Any help would be appreciated, I have gotten dependent on PE, and
would like to continue to use it without fear of getting locked up if
I press the wrong key or push the wrong button.  Thanks in advance.


Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:57:44 +0100
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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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Chris Randle wrote:
> Would you notice a crash?
>
> Your reality/consciousness would stop too.

Maybe you would not notice the crash (even though I believe there would
be a "general protection fault" :-) but you would certainly see the MS
logo while booting.

Interesting topic, even if labelled "Fluff". Did not know about the
"blue screen" with close-deaths.

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Hi friends,

I remember that I saw an article somwhere on the web (probably hplx.net
or palmtop.net) that discribed the development of a device that plugs
into the serial port and allows voice recording and playback.

Does anyone know the URL?
(Could be another interesting project after the LED light project ;-) )

TNX
daniel

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> Y'all been watching too much Max Headroom.  Remember?  The only capital

M-m-m-ax Head-head-headroom... Yep! remember him well...

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Fluffy speed and stuff

>The complete supremacy of the slower F-15 Eagle fighter over the much
faster MIG 25 should remind
us that raw speed isn't always the determining
>factor in getting the job done.
>
There is a famous Fighter ace name of Chuck ....
Who said the same thing. Unfortunately he never
excelled not because of skills but politics.  Think
he piloted the Bell X1 but never got into the
space pgm.  Maybe that's why NASA and CIA  has
always been mediocre.

yore pal al.............................................
>

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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Al Kind wrote:

>    As far as suggested additional features, I didn't see any mention
> of HTTPS or SSL, I think many would like secure site/page access.

Much as we would like that (and an SSH client as well!) I think this may
be too processor-intensive for the 200LX.  One of those "wait three
minutes between keystrokes" things.

But hey, if a lousy 40MHz 320LX can handle it, I have faith in 200LX
programmers...

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Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:09:10 -0400 (EDT)

01h47s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I remember that I saw an article somwhere ...  device that plugs
> into the serial port and allows voice recording and playback.


Hi Daniel-

Look for voice.zip on SUPER   I think that's what you want.

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:59:57 +0100
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Ah ah Ah good story mate ! :-)

You only forgot the IPO and the CNN Report :-)

Paal Rasmussen wrote:

>
> The story would go something like this: (complete with the usual mistakes)
>
> "Corvallis drop-outs hits the big time in Paris with Hewlett-Packard
> reject"
> -from our corespondent
> Frank and Joe - seen here in front of their rented garage cum factory -
> recently struck a million dollar deal with Karl Lagerfelt to supply Chanels
> first ever PDA. (Personal Diary Assistant) In what is seen as a bold move,
> the Parisian perfume and haute-coiture giant launches a range of miniature
> computer diaries that it says will make the design conscious woman of today
> wear her PDA like any other accesoire. "It's time fashion and computers
> merge" - says Largerfelt - "and Frank and Joe made it possible by making
> the first really practical PDA."
>

İsnip¨


Shafik

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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

Hi friends,

I remember that I saw an article somwhere on the web (probably hplx.net
or palmtop.net) that discribed the development of a device that plugs
into the serial port and allows voice recording and playback.

Does anyone know the URL?
(Could be another interesting project after the LED light project ;-) )




    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Daniel,

The instructions can be found on the SUPER Site:

voice.zip
Program and hardware kit instructions for building
a voice recorder for the 200LX. Freeware.


HTH

Regards,

Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:17:06 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Can't choose icon

I got some good WordPerfect icons (thanks to all).  Unfortunately, I
cannont get them assigned in SysMan.  I only get the puma, C:>, or
spreadsheet as an option.

I'm running WP using maxdos according to the instructions from the
"Hacking with Jorgen" section of palmtop.net.  I've tried putting the
icons in the maxdos directory, the WP directory, and c:\ but still am not
given the new icons as a choice.

Help please?

Larry Zimmerman

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Hello

I have always wondered how the lx was programmed so the rom was seen as
a d: drive. Does anyone know how that is done? Thanks.

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Hi

I need some recommendations for editing C source code on the Palmtop.

A small C compiler recommendation could come in handy also :-)

TIA


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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:58:39 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: PE 2.2

I've noticed PE 2.2 lock ups also. If I run pe with the '@' paramter but
have no srclist file it locks me up and I have to HARD reboot (ctrl-alt-on)
to get out. I use SC so maybe thats why I gotta do a hard rb.


Latr.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Hocking İmailto:hocking@FLASH.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 10:47 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ PE 2.2
>
>
> I downloaded the new PE 2.2 from D&A's website and have been
> experiencing some strange problems.  I have the PE files & PICK.EXE
> located in: C:\PE.  When I launch PE from system manager, the PICK
> screen comes up first to ask me what file to open.  If I hit ESC at
> that first PICK screen, my LX locks up tight.  I have to use
> CTRL-ALT-DEL to recover.  My previous version of PE did not do this.
>
> After rebooting, and I launch PE again I get a pop-up window telling
> me that PE is already open, with the choices of ignore or abort.  If I
> choose ignore I get back to the first PICK screen again, if I chose
> abort it exits me back to system manager.
>
> Also if I launch PE and the first PICK window comes up, and I hit
> enter which takes me to the PICK file menu, and I choose the cancel
> button, I get the same results as above, I am locked up tight.
>
> I have been using a blank.doc file located in my C:\PE directory that
> I have the attributes set to read-only, that I use when the pick asks
> me what file to open, so that I can come up to a blank document when
> first opening PE.  I am using the nofiddle.com program in my
> autoexec.bat file to prevent system manager from interfering with PE.
> Has anyone got any suggestions?  Can anyone else repeat this problem
> of mine?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, I have gotten dependent on PE, and
> would like to continue to use it without fear of getting locked up if
> I press the wrong key or push the wrong button.  Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking
> Email: hocking@flash.net
> Sterling Heights, Michigan
> System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
> Mailer: POST/LX-Registered
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:02:48 +0000
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Subject:      A simple question !!
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On July 6, 1999, Hewlett-Packard announced that it will cease
production of the HP 200LX and HP 100 CX Palmtop computers as of
Nov.1, 1999.
The announcement gave no reason for the decision.  WHY ???

It's a pity !!

Currently, palmtops use their own OS (psion, wCE, ...). DOS is
universal !!. Knows someone if is any palmtop (hp3xx / 6xx with DOS ?


____________________________________________

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:06:06 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Can't choose icon
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Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:43:49 -0400 (EDT)

01h03m49s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> I got some good WordPerfect icons (thanks to all).  Unfortunately, I
> cannont get them assigned in SysMan.  I only get the puma, C:>, or
> spreadsheet as an option.
>
> I'm running WP using maxdos according to the instructions from the
> "Hacking with Jorgen" section of palmtop.net.  I've tried putting the
> icons in the maxdos directory, the WP directory, and c:\ but still am =
not
> given the new icons as a choice.

Normally AppMgr only offers the default icons or an icon with the same
name (and in the same directory) as the program you put in the path
line.  You CAN trick AppMgr by putting the icon name (with the full
path) in the path box; then tab to the icon selection box - the icon
should appear; tab back to the path box, and type the real path.  DO
NOT go back to the icon box - hit OK when done.  Or launch from HDM or
X-Finder (or SMMx if you can make it work....).

HTH


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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:49:51 -0800
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> wrote:

I know someone mentioned this a little while back, but I want to bring
it up again.  PKWARE has released an updated DOS PKZIP program version
2.50.  The last version was 2.04g dated 2-1-93.  I have ran a few tests
on this new version and have not found any problems running it on my X2
LX.


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Great! and thanks for the notice and report. (:-¨


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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:05:50 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:37:29 -0400 (EDT)

Hi, gang-

If you use X-Finder and have a huge icon collection, you may run into a
problem showing all of the collection.  It seems like XF has a limit of
256 icons that can be displayed.  Subtract the number you have in your
icon.lzh iconfld.lzh and icon directories registered in finder.env.
That's the number you'll be able to handle at one time.  I had 179
icons registered, and found that if an icon archive or directory had
more than 77 icons, the excess would all show as the generic file icon.

The moral is - clean out icons you don't use from your registered
archives and directories, and divide the rest of the collection into
reasonably small subgroups.

Took me a while to figure out what the @#$¬& was going on.  Thought
maybe there were dead sectors on my flash and some files were gone.
Fortunatly that wasn't it  8-)

HTH


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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:10:02 +0200
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              David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
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Ditto. For me the best feature of PNR is that it is exm, and I can swap
between PNR, CALC, LOTUS123 and DOS very easily and very fast. It is hands
down my favourite application. (I'm even playing with it more than
FREECELL!)

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:37:31 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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I posted a message earlier about using pkzip 2.5 on my LX.  I have
found an issue that users switching to 2.5 from 2.04g might want to be
aware of.  If you use the new extra maximum compression switch when
zipping files from 2.5, you will not be able to un-zip them using
2.04g.  You will get an warning message indicating that the encrypted
files are being skipped, where as the files that were zipped using 2.5,
encryption was not used.

Summary, if you switch to version 2.5, be prepared for users that
haven't switched from 2.04g yet to not be able to un-zip your files, if
you used the -exx switch (extra maximum compression).

FYI



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL> wrote:

Ditto. For me the best feature of PNR is that it is exm, and I can swap
between PNR, CALC, LOTUS123 and DOS very easily and very fast. It is hands
down my favourite application. (I'm even playing with it more than
FREECELL!)



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Me make four, but PNR for News and ccLXPOP for Email.
PNR lacks an Address Book, but is great for News like the name states!

BTW: Just got finished updating my dial-up script/batch file.

It now aborts and redials on:

ERROR, BUSY, NO DIALTONE, NO CARRIER, and on RING.


For kicks I'm now working on getting a "You Got Mail" wave file to run after
downloading. (:-¨

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:20:31 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Hello,

Does anyone on the list know where I might find copies of the following:

    CardBIOS
    Cougar System Controller
    Socket Services 1.01

All docs need to be the HP200LX specific versions from HP.

Thanks,
Mack

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:30:53 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> If I try to download (from SUPER, the newest files) the
> "X-Copy-Like-Program" for use with X-Finder, I get only one line of
> text-rubbish in my browser???

It's because Thaddeus' web-server doesn't send out the correct MIME type
for .com files. It sends out text/plain as the type, and so the browser
thinks it is downloading another HTML file.

To fix the problem, the correct type should be added to the web-server's
configuration. Something like:

application/octet-stream        com


Should work nicely.


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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:36:14 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:20:31 -0500, Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> =
wrote:

> Does anyone on the list know where I might find copies of the following:

I thought you already had one of everything <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:37:54 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      ELKS on HP200LX

Hi all,

I was trying to run ELKS on HP200LX, but after a lot of tries, I'm sure that
we need a port to HP200LX.
Where do I find information about the structure of HP like memory
management, vector interrupt, ramdisk, bios services and so on ?

Thank you.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:29:48 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)
Comments: To: Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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The point is surely that a palmsized PC running Notes would have to be
promoted as such for us to be able to say that "Sorry, the public only
wants CE's" if it flopped. As no-one has tried bundling a LX size machine
with Notes, the question of its success remains unaswered.
I think what bowled people over was the fact that you could carry the
killer app of the times in your pocket.
You cannot carry todays killer apps in your pocket unless you have a
bizarre taste in clothes.
Making Notes available in a LX case with 2 months of battery time may still
be a good idea. Only way to find out is if Lotus&IBM gor their act together
instead of sulking over lost market domination.

*) Killer apps of today: Intranet technology products / Knowledge
management products

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> From: Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Fluff: Re: Why not an IBM/Lotus Palmtop? (LONG, sorry)
> Date: 9. juli 1999 21:44
> As for the IBM/Lotus idea - well, they tried that (PC110) and though
> it sold well (in Japan), that was dropped (too expensive, and parts
> availability I suspect) - granted, Lotus software was not included, but
> you could load anything (including MS Office97) so I don't view
> the inclusion of Lotus as the magic piece to propell sales "through
> the roof"...
>
> And the Librettos are dead (in America, anyway) due to low sales and
> that was a much more "usable" system (large screen, keyboard and
> large storage capacities).
>
> Just my $.02,
>

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:18:45 -0300
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              "Cassio A. Spina" <caspina@TRELLIS.COM.BR>
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Subject:      Re: Good C source editor ?
Comments: To: Shafik Mahomad <sam@LINK.PT>
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I've written a long time ago a C (and xBase also) source editor for DOS,
with features like auto-identing, etc. If you'd like, I can send the
executable files to you (specify the Language: Portuguese or English?)

Cassio

At 05:45 PM 7/13/99 +0100, Shafik Mahomad wrote:
>Hi
>
>I need some recommendations for editing C source code on the Palmtop.
>
>A small C compiler recommendation could come in handy also :-)
>
>TIA
>
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> I encloase a bit of correspondence i had with the folks at
> newdealinc.com.

> Steve Main
> Dir Tech Services, NewDeal


Now there is a name out of the HP past kinda!!!  He was our Geos tech
support person for the HP Omnigo100/120 with the geos innards.

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At 05:45 PM 7/13/99 +0100, Shafik Mahomad wrote:
>Hi
>I need some recommendations for editing C source code on the Palmtop.
>A small C compiler recommendation could come in handy also :-)
>TIA

Best idea is to get Turbo C V1.0 or 2.0. Both run OK on the LX.
Or you could get Turbo C++ V1.0 if you want to go OOP.
All are downloadable for free. Can't remember where from. Could someone
please post the URL for Shafik?

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From:         Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: PNR, a pleased user!
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

> Me make four, but PNR for News and ccLXPOP for Email.
> PNR lacks an Address Book, but is great for News like the name states!


There are two workable ways to deal with this.  The configuration
file İPNR.CFG¨ has a section for aliases.  This makes it easy to
compose e-mail to regular recipients using a short nickname.  It
is not too handy for capturing addresses, though.

Here is an account of my second (preferred) method of managing
e-mail addresses.  For the past few months I have been using a
custom LX database to store my e-mail addresses (1).  I have a
Smart Clip built that will grab the e-mail address formatted as:

   FirstName LastName <user@host.domain>

The trick here is to grab the address *before* invoking "Mail"
in PNR.  Once the dialog box comes up, you are not able to switch
to other SysMan applications.

To capture an e-mail address, I "Reply" to an e-mail, BackTab
to the "To:" header, grab it into the clipboard, escape from the
dialog, swap to my e-mail database, do F2 to Add an entry, and
paste the name and address in.  A little less than elegant, but
it works pretty well.

Ted

(1) I find that some fields are available for some of my records
and other fields are available for others, but there is not *one*
field that is *always* available.  And yes, I know I could
customize my PhoneBook, but I choose not to, so I can use the
OmniBook windows version on my desktop.

--
Theodore Heise   <theise@netins.net>   West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:50:32 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Good C source editor ?
Comments: To: Shafik Mahomad <sam@LINK.PT>
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1999-07-13-16:45:43 Shafik Mahomad:
> I need some recommendations for editing C source code on the Palmtop.

In part this reduces to an unanswerable question, what's a good editor; there
are people who like vi, there are people who like emacs, there are people who
like things that lean heavily on the PC cursor and function keys and don't
provide much potential for editing in other settings, there are people who
like GUI editors, etc.

I like emacs. If you don't, then by all means ignore my recommendation for an
editor:-).

I have happily used JOVE (Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs) everywhere, for
about 15 years now. It runs fine on DOS, including on the LX. It's available
from <URL:ftp://ftp.cs.toronto.edu/pub/moraes/>. It also runs great on Unix,
which is where I mostly use it. JOVE has a great C mode with auto-indenting
and paren/brackets/braces/quotes-matching and good helpful stuff like that.

There are other equally great editors out there; if it weren't that JOVE keeps
working fine for me (and is small and fast) I might have learned some of the
alternatives well enough to have been tempted to convert. JED, by the author
of S-Lang and slrn, is a really tempting possibility.

> A small C compiler recommendation could come in handy also :-)

My favourite back 15 years ago was DeSmet C, which is now available in
shareware as "PCC", the "Portable C Compiler". It's a pretty good K&R C of
early-'80s vintage --- 100% totally pre-ANSI. It's tiny and breathtakingly
fast; it generates teensy executables, it can compile to assembler, and the
gap between C and assembler is so small with this compiler that it's really
really easy to just write a null routine with the same args that just adds 'em
or something easy to recognize, compile that to assembler, and see what the
boilerplate looks like so you can get at args while doing in-line assembler.
Really nice for teensy utils. The Othello game I did in 1983 or so, which is
still available to this day -- check www.palmtop.net, in the 95LX section
copied from eddie, it's got my name on it --- has an executable compiled using
PCC. Works great.

But if you want ANSI C, you need to look elsewhere. Turbo C or Borland C or
some such was really good for some years, and I seem to recall that MIX C got
reasonably ANSI shortly before it was MS-ed.

Sadly, I don't know of a freely available ANSI C compiler for DOS.

-Bennett

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( I am resendig this mail to the maillist because I do not think it got
sent in the first try...)

--------------I wrote------

I have been in contact with this guy below which has moved from the Hp
200 to a Palm. I am trying to get him back to the "good" side..but he
has some problems with his Hp200 which I hope that the list can help
with..He is not a member of our "club" yet..


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Stefan Verhagen" <stefan@xs4all.nl>
To: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@mobilpost.com>
Subject: Re: Re:8810 buy it or not?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:44:16 +0200

Martin,

Tanks for your help. It is very much appreciated.

However I tried to upgrade my WWW/LX but, since my version is 1.0, I =
would
have to pay the full whopping $80+.
Next to that, I found out that my HP seemingly randomly reboots, as if =
the
main batteries were dead. they aren't empty and this even happens when =
the
HP is on AC mains adapter. Have you ever heard about such a situation?

Anyway these things don't help me much getting back to my HP :( So for =
the
time being I'll stick to my PalmIII, which doesn;t have the "vast" =
storage
capacity and no keyboard. But it is very small, and has cheap/free =
software.
Like avantgo=3Doff/online browser which also connects to my 8810. It also
synchronizes data to my desktop very fast and easy.)

FYI: This is what i used on my HP for which I haven't found a good =
PalmIII
alternative yet:
lxdc (exchange picture with my digital camera)
www/lx
buddy
a dutch  routeplanner for cars and trains
vertical reader
qbasic and DOS

Well, I hope to meet you in the unforeseeable future, e.g. when the =
HP900LX
comes out with DOS and Linux, the size of a cigarette pack (this is all =
just
wishfull thinking, I guess)

Although WAP is an interesting thing to watch as well.

Thanks again,

Stefan


--- end of forwarded message ---


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   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:11:12 -0700
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              TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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I was wondering if there was a .gdb or something of the HTML specs?  I
downloaded the plaintext from W3.org, but was curious if someone had
already done this...

-- Terry

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:15:16 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  <19990713225032.B22068@mordor.net> from "Bennett Todd" at Jul 13,
              99 10:50:32 pm
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My $.02 worth... from the vi perspective, you might consider the VIM
version of this editor.  I use it extensively when editing C source
on my palmtop (and on my other desktop computers).  It recognizes C
language syntax, and provides such things as auto-indent.  There's also
files to properly recognize syntax in numerous other languages and
formats (like assembler, html, fortran, etx.)  It will color-code
different language features, but only on the desktop, of course.

I have been using MIX Software's Power C on my palmtop and desktop for
many years.  It is an ANSI compiler, and works great for me when I
write small programs.  Also is easy to use with the PAL library.  MIX
also still sells a DOS boot manager called Boot Commander, which I
use on my palmtop.

-Chris



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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:34:43 -0400
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Hi

I need some recommendations for editing C source code on the Palmtop.

A small C compiler recommendation could come in handy also :-)

TIA

I use the built in memo editor and tun Turbo C version 2.0 (TCC.exe) from the
c: drive. I think you could do it in 2MB, but I run it in 5Mb. This lets me do
EXM development very easily.

Brian

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_ Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> Wrote:

>Oh, really?  I hope they go into receivership, and that the children of their
>employees are left running naked and hungry in the streets.  I want to walk
>through the rubble of their headquarters after demolition crews have gutted
>its insides.

-roger-


Sheesh - sounds like Conan the Barbarian: "Drive the enemy before you and kill
them, hearing the lamentations of their women..."

;)

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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> Sheesh - sounds like Conan the Barbarian: "Drive the enemy before you
> and kill them, hearing the lamentations of their women..."

"Format the enemy's drives before you kill them, hearing the lamentations
of their Jornada devices..."  Hmm... it doesn't have quite the same ring
to it.

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In a message dated 7/13/99 8:37:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM writes:

> hearing the lamentations of their women..."

Yeah, that too!  Conan Conquers Corvallis and then does his little pose.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:28:08 -0400
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Isaque,

The HP's internals are detailed in the Software Development Kit
available from Thaddeus (www.PalmtopPaper.com).

HTH,
Tom

"Araujo, Isaque G." wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was trying to run ELKS on HP200LX, but after a lot of tries, I'm sure that
> we need a port to HP200LX.
> Where do I find information about the structure of HP like memory
> management, vector interrupt, ramdisk, bios services and so on ?
>
> Thank you.
>
>  /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
> (=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
>  '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, The Hornbergers wrote:

> The HP's internals are detailed in the Software Development Kit
> available from Thaddeus (www.PalmtopPaper.com).

There are now three version of the SDK available.  The book version (sold
by Thaddeus), the electronic Windows version (sold by Thaddeus and
included on the CD Infobases), the new HTML version that can be run on the
200LX (included on the 1999 CD Infobase, and it makes use of my nifty
search engine <g>).

There's also LXRef, a free version of the SDK that may or may not contain
the same info as the others (haven't checked into it thoroughly), and NKIT
on SUPER which is used for programming EXM applications.  Some of the
calls in the NKIT files may be useful for an ELKS port; I'm not sure.
Also, there's PAL (available from Thaddeus or at the PAL homepage which
I'm too tired to go find the URL to right now) which also contains source
and could be useful for an ELKS port.

Okay, did I miss anything?  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:16:47 -0800
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>Much as we would like that (and an SSH client as well!) I think this may
>be too processor-intensive for the 200LX.  One of those "wait three
>minutes between keystrokes" things.
>
>But hey, if a lousy 40MHz 320LX can handle it, I have faith in 200LX
>programmers...

I've actually been looking at some of this myself. The main problem with
porting most of the software is that many of the algorithms have actually been
designed for 32 bit processors, or have been implemented on them. The easiest
thing to do would be to write some functions that emulate the 32 bit math, but
this would not necessarily be the fastest finished product. Definately not a
trivial exerciese.

The processing power of the palmtop is probably adequate for a simple telnet
session via ssh, (it'll encrypt faster than you can type). Using the ssh
redirection feature with existing software based on the wattcp tcp/ip stack
would be a challenge; it would probably be easies to rewrite those applications
with calls to an ssh TSR.

The big problem is the session setup; most of these protocols use public key
algorithms for the initial key exchange. These algorithms are all _very_ slow.
Happily, though, most protocols don't require their use except at the session
setup.

Of course any cryptographic software that is written for the palmtop should be
written in a country where the export laws are amenable to redistribution; so
all those 200LX programmers in the USA are effectively out of the running

-Ryan


>Much as we would like that (and an SSH client as well!) I think this may
>be too processor-intensive for the 200LX.  One of those "wait three
>minutes between keystrokes" things.
>
>But hey, if a lousy 40MHz 320LX can handle it, I have faith in 200LX
>programmers...

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On 13 Jul 1999 rtmcbrid@sfu.ca wrote:

> Of course any cryptographic software that is written for the palmtop
> should be written in a country where the export laws are amenable to
> redistribution; so all those 200LX programmers in the USA are
> effectively out of the running

Could the software be written with an external encryption library of
sorts, so US-based programmers could help with the development, and then
the software with the "illegal to export from the US" library be hosted on
a non-US site?

Maybe some of the lawyers here who are familiar with encryption
regulations (Larry Zimmerman and ... I'm not sure who else) could tell us
if this sort of thing would earn us an unfriendly visit by the FBI.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:11:10 +0930
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Subject:      Re: Make Accton 2216-1 NIC work

Stanley,

I can offer a file transfer, email and web solution using pure TCP/IP,
but not providing a mapped drive.

Firstly, you need the lxether.zip Accton drivers from SUPER - this
gives you op2216.exe and pd2216.exe - which you call as follows:

        op2216
        pd2216 0x66 5

Think of op2216 as the cic100 equivalent for ethernet cards (although
it's not a TSR so your connection to the ethernet won't continue if
you turn off the palmtop while connected), and think of pd2216 as
conceptually equivalent to the part of WWW/LX that dials up your ISP.

Once you've got this in place, then you can use any of the LXTCP
utilities (PING, DNS, POP, SMTP, NNTP, FTP, TELNET, etc) to talk to the
TCP/IP network.  See the LXTCP.DOC in the beta version of LXTCP on my
web site for setup and troubleshooting details.

If you want to use D&A tools (such as WWW/LX and POST/LX) you can tell
WWW.EXE to use the packet driver interface provided by pd2216 by
putting Ether=1 in your www.cfg file (see the WWW/LX documentation for
details).  It's just like using a modem connection, only much much
faster.

To terminate the pd2216 TSR, you call termin.exe as follows:

        termin 0x66

I do most of my mail and news transfers via the ethernet card (except
when travelling).  I also use it to telnet from the palmtop to a Unix
host.

For file transfers, you can run the LXTELNET program from LXTCP which
provides an FTP *server* on the palmtop.  Then you can use any FTP
client on the desktop for file transfers and backups (I use XEmacs on
Unix/Linux and Netscape on Win95 for individual file transfers, and
mirror.pl on Unix/Linux for backups over the ethernet (150K/sec).

The idea behind LXTCP is to make the palmtop look like any other
machine to the TCP/IP network, and then use the normal network tools on
your desktop machine to access the palmtop files.  Is not as convenient
as a mapped drive on Win95, but it does work for *all* operating
systems that can access the Internet.

I will later post details about how to get your palmtop to use your
desktop's internet connection, so you can be palmtopping at the same
time as someone else is using the desktop machine.

Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> I want to use the card to connect to my LAN at home which is a
> simple Win95 Peer-to-Peer setup running TCP/IP (it could run
> NETBEUI also if needed).  I would like to be able to transfer
> files between my palmtop and the Win95 machines on my home
> LAN.
>
> I would also like to connect to my LAN at work which is
> running WinNT 4.0, SP4 with TCP/IP and NetBEUI.  I want to be
> able to do simple file transfers here also by mapping a
> palmtop drive letter to a network shared folder.  It would be
> cool to be able to use the LAN to get on the Internet with
> WWW/LX Plus also.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:40:01 -0400
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I take it you either:

    A: Don't make mistakes, or

    B: Don't have children

I think your response was a bit too harsh for a casual
conversation...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Demise of HP200


>In a message dated 7/13/99 7:21:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>a123456@BITSTREAM.NET writes:
>
>> To be honest, I hope
>>  HP does well with their descions. They have been a good company for many
>> years
>>  with an excellant reputation although they may have changed a little
they
>>  probably have a good foudation still.
>
>Oh, really?  I hope they go into receivership, and that the children of
their
>employees are left running naked and hungry in the streets.  I want to walk
>through the rubble of their headquarters after demolition crews have gutted
>its insides.
>
>-roger-
>
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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The PalmPilot is a collection of "good enough" features
(Handwriting recognition is "good enough", the display
is "good enough", etc... But the real advantage the palm
platform has over so many others (HP LX included) was
it's timing - it hit the market at a time when *many* people
felt they needed something like this, and the price was
reasonable ($300 1999 dollars is a *lot* less than the
LX sold for in 1984)...

Just my $.02 worth,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: Sales figures


> I wonder why 3COM sells so many PP's compared to the rest. It
>can do a lot but it lacks so much like a pc card slot for data. Cheaper?

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I have several colleagues that swear by their PalmPilots.  I give
PalmPilots a lot of credit for being very good at what they do.
They use their small amount of memory very efficiently and have a truly
easy-to-use GUI.  They are well-supported and reliable.  And they are
some stiff competition for Micro$oft!  If I didn't have my trusty 200lx,
I would have a Palm Pilot!

Richard Smith


      John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

>** Reply to note from Kurt Hopfensperger <kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
07/12/99  5:45pm -0500

>> HP                      123,050                         6

>I wonder how many 200LX's? 10000, 20000, 50000? There's over 1000 alone
on this list with
>people buying all the time. I wonder why 3COM sells so many PP's
compared to the rest. It
>can do a lot but it lacks so much like a pc card slot for data. Cheaper




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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:18:33 EDT
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In a message dated 7/13/99 10:42:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM writes:

>
>  The complete supremacy of the slower F-15 Eagle fighter over the much
> faster MIG
>  -25 should remind us that raw speed isn't always the determining factor in
>  getting the job done.

It's an excellent point, and one with which I entirely agree.  OTOH, it can't
be gainsaid that if a lot of people weren't spoiled by speed, there'd be no
pressing reason for double-speed palmtops or ever faster Pentium desktops and
laptops.  To me, it's not really a problem because I am fascinated by the
whole gamut of this technology.  I remember carbon paper and those annoying
little strips of correction paper.  I'm constantly amazed and gratified by
what computers do.  But let's face it, in relative terms those of us who've
been following it for over 20 years are part of the Geritol set.  Video games
have and certain cable TV channels that shall go unnamed have spoiled the
younger generation.

I may take a closer look at this emulation

-roger-

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              Peter W <peterw@USA.NET>
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I would definitely like to see SSH for the LX. The other day I was at
dinner and my pager went off; I really needed to log in and take care of
some stuff. I realized that even if I had the external modem, acoustic
coupler, etc, I wouldn't be able to get a secure connection. Yet I could
do this with a Palm device, or maybe even the old WinCE thing in my drawer
if that company ever finished their commercial SSH app for CE.

Alternately, SSLTelnet would be nice. Like SSH, all the SSLTelnet ports
seem to be either Windows or Unix-like OS'es...

I like my palmtop, but the lack of crypto login apps is a real drag.

-Peter

The Intel Pentium III chip: designed to deny your privacy
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:31:41 -0400
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Robert

> I downloaded the new PE 2.2 from D&A's website and have been
> experiencing some strange problems.>

I have no problems. Do a reinstall - maybe something was corrupted. If
you run SC why not leave PE in c:\sc-apps directory as by default
installation of SC ?

HTH

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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Robert Hocking wrote:
> I downloaded the new PE 2.2 from D&A's website and have been
> experiencing some strange problems.  I have the PE files & PICK.EXE
> located in: C:\PE.  When I launch PE from system manager, the PICK
> screen comes up first to ask me what file to open.  If I hit ESC at
> that first PICK screen, my LX locks up tight.  I have to use
> CTRL-ALT-DEL to recover.  My previous version of PE did not do this.

Does not seem as if PE did something. You say that you start PICK and
then it crashes. Or are you already back in PE when you get the crash?

The only difference in the new version of PE is that it supports some
additional PIM functions. There are no changes to the existing
functions. There is one difference emerging from that though: the new
PE needs a bit more memory. I know that SysMgr likes to crash if you
try to launch a program and there is not enough free memory. I would
assume that the crash won't happen if you give it a little more memory.

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:39:16 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> To terminate the pd2216 TSR, you call termin.exe as follows:
>
>         termin 0x66

For PD2216, all you have to do is run PD2216 -U.  Some of the other
drivers, like EPPPD I believe, require the termin program to exit, though.

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In a message dated 7/14/99 12:03:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rsmith@ENOL.COM
writes:

> I have several colleagues that swear by their PalmPilots.

I see a lot of these too.  The most attractive thing about them, IMO, is that
you can easily tuck one in a shirt pocket, and I think this has to do a lot
with its appeal.  Keeping it less expensive than the other PDAs may have a
lot to do with it too.  But it's amazing the amount of third-party software
development that has grown up around this little thing.  They call us a cult?
 Sheesh!  Otherwise,  I don't know how to explain their market leadership.
Why has this succeeded where the Newton failed?  The thing has such a limited
memory capability, and the stylus paradigm is so awkward, that I don't see
how it is useful for anything more than simple listkeeping.

-roger-

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:18:13 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Back from the Dead

   I want to thank you all, particularly Mack Bagette,David Sargeant,
Rick Rae, and Tom for responding about my vertical lines problem.
   Gee, I hate to find myself on the other side of a divided opinion
about something technical on the LX from Mack.
When I sent in my 200LX for servicing by Thaddeus I asked for a new
display and sent the additional funds to cover it. They sent me back a
refund for that amount and explained that at that time they were out of
stock of new displays, but
nevertheless effected a repair to my machine. They didn't
specify what they had done, but they fixed it.
   I haven't had my machine apart, like David, but since I acquired it
second hand, I can't speak for the first owner. In its other life,
perhaps it belonged to David :¬)
   However, very much in line with what Rick Rae suggested, the lines can
be temporarily eliminated by flexing the bezel underneath them. And, as
Mack suggested, they appear in order, marching across from the far left
margin. First two, then three, and now four, what I would call a pattern.
Taken altogether, my bet is on a problem with the connector/zebra strip,
rather than solder connections on the video drivers. ('Course, what do I
know?:¬) .)
   The only thing is, if I'm going to take this puppy apart and try to
clean the connectors, I'd like to scout out the country ahead. I went to
Alta Vista and asked for HPLX Pictures and got zip. HPLX by itself got
various web sites but not the famous pictures of disassembling the HPLX.
Can someone give me the URL?
                                                         Thankfully,
                                                          Bob Perron

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:36:19 +0800
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Try this site:
http://www.portnet.ne.jp/~amaki/hp200lx/lxkaie2.htm

Roger S.

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Sales Figures

   >> I have several colleagues that swear by their PalmPilots.
Message-Id: <19990714053613.XZRD4954@İ12.72.154.45¨>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:36:13 +0000

   >I see a lot of these too.  The most attractive thing about them,
   >IMO, is that you can easily tuck one in a shirt pocket, and I think
   >this has to do a lot with its appeal.  Keeping it less expensive
   >than the other PDAs may have a lot to do with it too.  But it's
   >amazing the amount of third-party software development that has
   >grown up around this little thing.  They call us a cult? Sheesh!
   >Otherwise,  I don't know how to explain their market leadership.

David Sargeant and I and probably several others here who came from the
Zoomer mailing list can probably recount how Jeff Hawkins (father of the
Pilot, the Zoomer and the Grid Convertible) followed a vision of pen
computing and learned from his mistakes.  Each machine got progressively
smaller and we (Zoomerphiles) were his guinea pigs for his inspired answer
to the abysmal hand recognition/data entry problem... Grafitti.

In one of his last interviews before starting the Palm Pilot, he ticked off
the lessons learned from the Zoomer: make it faster, give it Grafitti, make
it smaller (screen was way bigger than it needed to be), and give it a
dedicated OS that makes no compromises for palm users but had a simple
focus.

   >Why has this succeeded where the Newton failed?  The thing has such
   >a limited memory capability, and the stylus paradigm is so awkward,
   >that I don't see how it is useful for anything more than simple
   >listkeeping. -roger-

It was his dream to make a pen computer that would be useful and well
received.  In the beginning, he tried to use off-the-shelf systems (Windows
and then Geos)... before finally deciding to do it all himself.  But the
clincher was Grafitti, and the realization that the frustration the user
felt at the poor handwriting recognition could be turned around by training
the user rather than the machine.

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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Robert Perron wrote:

>    However, very much in line with what Rick Rae suggested, the lines can
> be temporarily eliminated by flexing the bezel underneath them. And, as
> Mack suggested, they appear in order, marching across from the far left
> margin. First two, then three, and now four, what I would call a pattern.
> Taken altogether, my bet is on a problem with the connector/zebra strip,
> rather than solder connections on the video drivers. ('Course, what do I
> know?:¬) .)

What kind of pattern?  Do the blank lines appear all the way across the
screen repeating every few pixels, or are they clustered in spots, or are
only two or three or four lines missing AT ALL?  If they're not all the
way across the screen in a pattern, I'm certain Mack is correct and the
problem is a loose solder joint (or two or three or ... <g>).  Unless you
know for certain that the display has been apart, I can pretty much
guarantee the problem is not the zebra strips.  Taking it apart to clean
them will very probably result in further damage.

The good part is, you can usually fix the soldering problem without the
complete display disassembly required to clean the zebra strips.  Most of
the solder lines you'd need to fix are on the back of the display, if I
understand correctly, and so you'd only have to take the display module
out of the palmtop.

Again, please don't disassemble the display to clean the zebra strips-- it
likely won't help and carries a high risk.  However, on www.hplx.net in
the "Hardware Hacking" section, I have some pictures of a disassembled
palmtop, including the screen.  Somebody else recently posted a URL to
some pictures of his LX which were very good, but I can't for the life of
me recall the address of that site or who posted it.  I'm sure he'll
recognize himself and reply, though.  <g>

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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> David Sargeant and I and probably several others here who came from
> the Zoomer mailing list can probably recount how Jeff Hawkins (father
> of the Pilot, the Zoomer and the Grid Convertible) followed a vision
> of pen computing and learned from his mistakes.  Each machine got
> progressively smaller and we (Zoomerphiles) were his guinea pigs for
> his inspired answer to the abysmal hand recognition/data entry
> problem... Grafitti.

Ah, the good ol' days, when I paid something like $100 to get Grafitti on
the Zoomer.  It's amazing how much better that made it... but I have to
say, the usefulness increased by many orders of magnitude when I switched
to a machine with a keyboard and full DOS compatibility.  What with new
memory upgrades and larger flash cards (which WILL work in the 200LX, even
though the manufacturers may be pessimistic <g>) and backlights and
magnesium alloy cases and the like, the usefulness of my 200LX just keeps
going up, and I don't expect it to end any time soon.  Now if only Curtis
Cameron would jump in and make me that Milles Bornes game, things would be
perfect.  <g>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Sales Figures


>I have several colleagues that swear by their PalmPilots.  I give
>PalmPilots a lot of credit for being very good at what they do.
>They use their small amount of memory very efficiently and have a truly
>easy-to-use GUI.  They are well-supported and reliable.  And they are
>some stiff competition for Micro$oft!  If I didn't have my trusty 200lx,
>I would have a Palm Pilot!

Well said.  I have my HP (a 1000cx) and also have a Palm V.  They each
have their uses.  The Palm is an excellent device for keeping PIM
information
and running the odd little applet, while the HP is the only real choice if
DOS
compatibility is required.

I find it ironic that the HP and the Palm are the only two units out there
with
anywhere near decent battery life, and the HP was a past success and the
Palm is a current success, but yet none of the WinCE units have addressed
this short coming in their devices.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Richard Smith
>
>
>      John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:
>
>>** Reply to note from Kurt Hopfensperger <kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
>07/12/99  5:45pm -0500
>
>>> HP                      123,050                         6
>
>>I wonder how many 200LX's? 10000, 20000, 50000? There's over 1000 alone
>on this list with
>>people buying all the time. I wonder why 3COM sells so many PP's
>compared to the rest. It
>>can do a lot but it lacks so much like a pc card slot for data. Cheaper
>
>
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:50:32 -0700
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Hi
I am a newbie having had my 200lx less than a week now,and I am having =
=3D
problems getting connected to the desktop.
There are 2 methods I've tried
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=3D
200,but only searched for it on COM2.   Subsequent attempts by me to =3D
make it handshake on COM1 are to no avail--in fact it keeps searching =
=3D
only on com2--why ??
    2    With the HP Connectivity kit.  I just keep getting the error =
=3D
message:-  Unable to make connection.
                    In all cases I have triple checked all the =3D
settings/connections etc,and I am in danger of losing my hair !
    I am lacking the User Manual for the Connectivity Kit,and if anyone =
=3D
could oblige with a copy;scanned,photocopied,Emailed or otherwise,I will =
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be eternally grateful,and will of course reemburse.
TIA
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:56:00 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Sales Figures


>In a message dated 7/14/99 12:03:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rsmith@ENOL.COM
>writes:
>
>> I have several colleagues that swear by their PalmPilots.
>
>I see a lot of these too.  The most attractive thing about them, IMO, is
that
>you can easily tuck one in a shirt pocket, and I think this has to do a lot
>with its appeal.  Keeping it less expensive than the other PDAs may have a
>lot to do with it too.  But it's amazing the amount of third-party software
>development that has grown up around this little thing.  They call us a
cult?
> Sheesh!  Otherwise,  I don't know how to explain their market leadership.
>Why has this succeeded where the Newton failed?  The thing has such a
limited
>memory capability, and the stylus paradigm is so awkward, that I don't see
>how it is useful for anything more than simple listkeeping.

The palms success with its developers has alot to do with the nature of the
machine,
and its tools.  For example to develop for the HP you need a DOS compiler
widely
available for free, or low cost, the palm is similar in that it uses a 68000
series chip
which has a GNU free C compiler available, and even the 'High End' code
warrior
compiler is around $300.  By contrast to develop for the Newton you needed
the
Newton Development kit which sold for around $800 which is more than a hobby
developer will pay, which kept the 3rd party applications down.

The palm is alot more capable than you might think, I looked at it as a toy,
a newton
wanna be, etc. but then after attempts to develop for WinCE (far to
expensive, and
ONLY microsoft tools which i hate) I turned to the palm and started
developing apps
for it.   Just as the HP is an IBM-XT at its heart, the Palm is a Macintosh
Classic,
with comparable power.

I have an use an HP 1000cx and a Palm V, they both have their advantages and
shortcomings.  With recent events and the demise of the HP,  I really hope
the Palm
continues its dominance over WinCE.  :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com




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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:22:12 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Palmtop sharing a desktop internet connection

In replying to Stanley's message about how to connect to a Win95
machine with TCP/IP, I realised that there's something else I do on my
home network which other people might find useful.

At home I have a PC which runs both Linux and Win95.  With the Linux
setup, sharing an internet connection is easy and free (you just use
the IP masquerading package).  In Win95, it took me some time to find
a similar capability for occasional use.  The capability I'm talking
about is being able to use an existing Win95 PC with Dial Up
Networking and a local ethernet card as a router between my palmtop
and the ISP - so the palmtop shares the ISP connection with the Win95
PC and you can have two people surfing (or downloading email) at the
same time.

I tried WinGate and WinProxy and WinRoute, but all of them timed out
after 30 days (even though I only use it once in blue moon) and
WinRoute (the only one that could do Network Address Translation) cost
USD$299.

I eventually found NAT32 which times out after 1 hour continuous use,
and only costs $25 to register.  This package İwritten by an
Australian, of course :-)¨ does full Network Address Translation, which
is ideal for LXTCP use (as the only thing you have to change in your
lxtcp.cfg file is the gateway and nameserver IP addresses).

Basically, you dial up your ISP in the normal way and get your Win95
machine connected to the Internet.  Then you run NAT32, and it senses
the dial-up connection and the local ethernet card.  Installation of
NAT32 registers another protocol with Win95 for a local 192.168.0.100
IP address on the local ethernet card.  Then any packets on the local
ethernet (i.e. the palmtop connected to the desktop machine via a
cross-over twisted pair ethernet cable) that are using the
192.168.0.100 adddress as the gateway get Network Address Translated
and then routed out via the dial-up connection to the eventual
destination.  Any packets destined for the normal 192.168.1.1 address
of the Win95 machine's ethernet card are not touched (so you can still
access TCP/IP services on the local machine separately from services on
the Internet).  NAT32 also functions as a local DNS server for the
palmtop.

This means I can now upload new versions of LXTCP and PNR from the
palmtop using LXFTP while my wife is using the Win95 PC for her
personalised artwork publishing business.  No more arguments over who
gets to use the big computer :-)

Check it out at http://www.nat32.com

BTW, I have no relationship with NAT32 other than being a satisfied
user - oh, and country of origin :-)

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:27:30 +0930
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Subject:      Re: Make Accton 2216-1 NIC work

David Sargeant writes:
> > To terminate the pd2216 TSR, you call termin.exe as follows:
> >
> >         termin 0x66
>
> For PD2216, all you have to do is run PD2216 -U.  Some of the other
> drivers, like EPPPD I believe, require the termin program to exit, though.

Yep, that's true.  I use a hangup.bat script which just calls termin,
and then it works for all cases of ethernet, modem and serial.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:45:31 +0100
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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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Ed Padin wrote:
> I've noticed PE 2.2 lock ups also. If I run pe with the '@' paramter but
> have no srclist file it locks me up

Oops. Seems to be a bug. I can reproduce it. Will fix it.

Thanks for reporting that!

Andreas

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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX as voice recorder
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it's a file on SUPER,
I don't remember the exact name.
regards
Alain

> Hi friends,
>
> I remember that I saw an article somwhere on the web (probably hplx.net
> or palmtop.net) that discribed the development of a device that plugs
> into the serial port and allows voice recording and playback.
>
> Does anyone know the URL?
> (Could be another interesting project after the LED light project ;-) )
>
> TNX
> daniel
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>  Daniel Hertrich                         Berlin, Germany
>
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:43:20 +0100
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              Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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Hello Alan

First of all congratulations on your program QView.

I use it with X-Finder to view files. To edit files I have the X-Finder
configured to use the built-in Memo using PNS200. With QView 1.0 all
worked fine, with the new 1.1 version some problems arose.

When I view a file, any file, with QView something happens which
prevents the use of Memo via PSN. I have to reboot and refrain from use
QView if I want to edit a file. Something you added or altered in
version 1.1 from version 1.0 is messing with the PNS200 settings (maybe
with the Keystuff part of it?). Will you look into it please?

TIA

Antonio
________________________________________________
Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
Using Post/LX 2.2 on a HP 200LX Palmtop PC
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:24:58 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

> The serial port can be set as high as 115K because that is the
> connection speed when using Cpack/LapLink.  I guess you have to
> write directly to the UART registers as Dos doesn't support fast
> rates via the MODE command.

And - how do I do it?
Stefan, your LXPRO does it - I need to set the serial port via a batch
file to 8N1 115.200 wire for preparing it for printing from LaTeX...
please help!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:24:30 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Set baud rate of com port
In-Reply-To:  <199907141124.LAA12193@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> from "Daniel
              Hertrich" at Jul 14, 99 11:24:58 am
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> Stefan, your LXPRO does it - I need to set the serial port via a batch
> file to 8N1 115.200 wire for preparing it for printing from LaTeX...
> please help!

Does the LXSTAT program allow one to change baud rate?   I did a quick
glance over the help output, and it didn't jump out at me.  I use
LXSTAT in a batch file that I use to start and end an AutoCAD session.
(in my case, I use it to adjust the screen mode).

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:33:45 EST
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop sharing a desktop internet connection

> Check it out at http://www.nat32.com
>
> BTW, I have no relationship with NAT32 other than being a satisfied
> user - oh, and country of origin :-)
>
> -- Rod Whitby - rwhitby@hplx.net - http://rwhitby.hplx.net --

Just wanted to say that I will second the idea that NAT32 is a great
little program. I have a wireless LAN at home (not for the 200lx
though :-( ) and it works like a charm even when there are three
users connected over one 56k modem connection. It is also very easy
to set up and unlike virtually every other comparable program there
is virtually no setup required on the client end. Well worth the $25
(or $47 for a w9x/nt version).

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:46:02 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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From:         Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: JKIT
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At 10:06 AM -0400 7/13/99, aguze118 wrote:
> Does anyone know if JKIt can be installed or run from the C drive on a double
> speeded 200LX.
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz
>

Works fine on mine but you really need to have a minimum 4 MB on the C drive
if you're going to run anything else. On my 32 MB upgraded machine, I don't
have enough space on the remaining stub of the C drive (F drive after the
drivers do their thing) for all of the fonts. The fonts won't work from the
new C: drive for 32 MB machines, only from the F: or A: drives.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:05:51 +1000
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Hello all,

Here is a bit of a problem for the 200Lx calendar (and all other
calendars)

I am leaving Canberra at 9.00am, stopover in Sydney, and arriving in
San Francisco at 7.20 am that same day. That means that even though I
will have spent 16 hours travelling, as far as tehe calendar is
concerned, I will arrive 1 hour 40 minutes before I depart.

Is there any way around this when scheduling appointments, etc on the
HP200LX?

One possibility I had was to start another appointment book file for
the USA.

Thanks,

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:12:48 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>    However, very much in line with what Rick Rae suggested, the lines can
> be temporarily eliminated by flexing the bezel underneath them. And, as
> Mack suggested, they appear in order, marching across from the far left
> margin. First two, then three, and now four, what I would call a pattern.
> Taken altogether, my bet is on a problem with the connector/zebra strip,
> rather than solder connections on the video drivers. ('Course, what do I
> know?:¬) .)

Unfortunately that doesn't sound like the type of pattern I was talking
about.  You definately have a display chip problem and not a zebra strip
problem, unless of course Thaddeus had taken the display apart.  Sometimes
you can seemingly cure a vertical line problem by messing with the zebra
strips, but you are most likely flexing the display board in such a way that
the connection problem is not showing up.  In other words it would only be a
temporary fix and not the real fix.  I know this from dealing with thousands
of displays.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:39:24 -0400
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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:31:53 -0500 (EST)

03h48m33s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:

> ...
>
> First of all congratulations on your program QView.

   DITTO...New features are great! (of course I6m still holding out for
a "cut to clipboard" ;-)

> ...
> When I view a file, any file, with QView something happens which
> prevents the use of Memo via PSN. I have to reboot and refrain from use
> QView if I want to edit a file. Something you added or altered in
> version 1.1 from version 1.0 is messing with the PNS200 settings (maybe
> with the Keystuff part of it?). Will you look into it please?

   Yes, I can confirm this behaviour. I use a KeyStuff macro to load a
file into QuickView from PNS200. Version 1.0 worked fine, but v1.11
locks up PNS200. I have't tried just runnin QV standalone, then PNS200,
I assumed it had something to do with running QV from within PNS.

Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:46:15 -0500
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Curtis,
I tried out your new version 2.01 Outlook conversion this morning. I
tried a 'synchronize', but Outlook didn't pick up a new phone number
from my LX. Then I tried an HPLX->Outlook and my contacts folder in
Outlook just picked up a bunch of blank records.

I had used an older version before and didn't have any problem.

Any thoughts?

TIA,
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:58:25 -0400
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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:17:10 -0400 (EDT)

1 day 22h59m36s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Bruce Martin wrote:

> FYI, why I asked is this: Because I am attempting to make my LX as =
Mac-like
> as possible, I run X-Finder in full icon mode. To get info about a =
file, I'm
> setting up File ID Check(idchec.zip) from SUPER to run under Ctrl-I, =
similar
> to the Mac's Get Info function with Command-I.

Sounds like a cool setup 8-)   Reworking the letter-key definitions in
XF is a great way to add even more power to the program.  Most of the
default letter assignments seem to be redundant, so this is probably
the ideal place to add new functions.  (Up to 78 of 'em - 3 for each
key!)

-Peniel
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John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> >And sometimes I've thought that the best use of the palmtop would be
> >to carry information and do light work (a little data entry, lookups,
> >&c) with it in the field, while being able to easily make that
> >information (and maybe its software, as well) available to a bigger,
> >faster CPU with a real keyboard and display for more intense work with
> >it, back it up, and maybe do other management things or programming from
> >the bigger system.
>
>   I just couldn't resist speaking up when I saw this comment! ;-)
>
>   I'm doing that with my HP200LX right now, without any modifications at
> all. :-) My LX is an actual serially connected node on my Little Big Lan
> network, so I'm able to do all of what you mentioned above, and much
> more! :-)

Yeah, and I've been able to sort-of-kind-of do that too, using a
serial cable and the INTERSVR/INTERLNK programs that came with MS-DOS
6.x.

Quite frankly I find this to not work as well as I'd like.  It lets me
get at files, and run applications stored in them.  Unfortunately the
200LX PIMs aren't in files, so I can't run them; that's not completely
useless because I could still use the CPACK utilities (if I had the
CPACK), or I can use other utilities like GDBLOAD to do some of the
more batch-oriented things that I do with databases.

Furthermore, I have some crufty old MS-DOS applications that remember
what sort of display they were using when the installation program was
run, and assume that's the kind of display they have when I run them
today.  This sometimes leads to frustration if I try to use the
desktop (actually a notebook with color VGA display) to install an
application on the 200LX -- when I run the application on the 200LX,
I get a nicely vague display.

So, yes, I can sort of do what I want today but it could be a lot
better.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:36:03 -0400
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Hello all.  Can anyone tell me if there is any reason why the above
combination cannot work?  The Aegis IR-HP5 is the IR adaptor sold on
palmtop.net.  I found that it can be physically connected to an external
modem.  What I am trying to do is to break the 14,400 barrier for external
modems (the com port has that barrier, the IR port apparently does not).  It
would be great to download email at 56k without swapping out my flash card.
Has anyone tried this?

TIA

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Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT> wrote:

Hello Alan

First of all congratulations on your program QView.

I use it with X-Finder to view files. To edit files I have the X-Finder
configured to use the built-in Memo using PNS200. With QView 1.0 all
worked fine, with the new 1.1 version some problems arose.

When I view a file, any file, with QView something happens which
prevents the use of Memo via PSN. I have to reboot and refrain from use
QView if I want to edit a file. Something you added or altered in
version 1.1 from version 1.0 is messing with the PNS200 settings (maybe
with the Keystuff part of it?). Will you look into it please?


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Antonio & Al,

I also use Quick View as my default viewer for X-Finder and it works great.

Q: Why are you using PNS200? Quick View works without it!





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Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET> wrote:

Hello all.  Can anyone tell me if there is any reason why the above
combination cannot work?  The Aegis IR-HP5 is the IR adaptor sold on
palmtop.net.  I found that it can be physically connected to an external
modem.  What I am trying to do is to break the 14,400 barrier for external
modems (the com port has that barrier, the IR port apparently does not).  It
would be great to download email at 56k without swapping out my flash card.
Has anyone tried this?


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Domingo,

What 14,400 barrier for external modems?
I use an external modem on my 2x and can connect at 38400.


HTH

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:44:35 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> Does not seem as if PE did something. You say that you start PICK and
> then it crashes. Or are you already back in PE when you get the crash?
>
> Andreas

Part 1 of 2

Andreas,

I still have not resolved my problems with the new PE.  When I launch
PE from system manager, I have the pipe at the end of the command line
to give PE all the available memory, and have no other programs
running when I launch PE.  I have even tried to run PE with MAXDOS,
from within system manager, just like I do to launch POST/LX, and I
get the same problems.  I have even tried running PE from DOS, after
exiting system manager, and still have the same problems.

When I run PE the PICK window comes up and asks me what file to open.
If I hit ESC the PICK window disappears & PE is now the active window,
but is completely locked up.  If I run PE and the PICK window comes
up, and I hit enter to go to the list files window, and then select
the cancel button, the screen goes completely blank, and is also
locked up.  Either way I get locked up, the next time I run PE I get a
warning  message that PE is already active.

I went and re-downloaded another fresh copy of PE 2.2 & PICK from
D&A's FTP site and then un-zipped them, and replaced the new old file
in my PE sub-directory, with the new files, and that did not change
anything.  I then went and downloaded the previous version, 2.0b,
from the same FTP site, and had none of the above mentioned problems.
I don't know what else to try. I am using a X2 8 meg 200LX, and have
both the PE & PICK files in C:\PE sub-directory.  In my PE.CFG file, I
have commented out some lines, and all the PIM releated entries, but
have even tried to run PE without doing that, and still get the same
above problems.  Here is what my PE.CFG file looks like:



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:44:31 -0500
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Part 2 of 2

; This is the configuration file for PalEdit
; A. Garzotto, 07-Jan-99

İFile¨
; set to 1 if a backup (*.BAK) should be created
Backup =3D 0
; display banner message
NoBanner =3D 1
; command to compile source code
Compile =3D pm >SCRATCH
; ask no dumb questions
Clog=3D0
; program that lets you choose a file
Chooser=3Dc:\pe\pick.exe
; where all temporary files should go
Temporary=3DC:\pe
; location of spelling checker files
Spell=3Dc:\pe\pespell
; and of alternative dictionary
;Spell2=3Da:\dict\pe_ger

İDisplay¨
; startup font: 0=3Dsmall 1=3Dmiddle 2=3Dlarge
Zoom =3D 0
; amount of extra space between lines in pixels
Leading =3D 1
; size of tabulators
TabSize =3D 8
; do not ask about converting TABs
LeaveTabs=3D1
; set this to the number of keystrokes after which the "Save" label
; should blink to warn you
SaveWarning =3D 1000
; set this to the number of times the area around the cursor should
; flash when it is moved (jumps) to a new position
Flashes =3D 3

İEdit¨
; set to 1 if new lines shall be indented automatically
AutoIndent =3D 1
; set to 1 if PE should start up in overwrite (not insert) mode
Overwrite =3D 0
; set to 1 if searches should be case sensitive
CaseSensitive =3D 0
; set this to the column where automatic line wrapping should take place
Wrap =3D 72
; set this to the column for automatic line wrapping in *.c files
C-Wrap =3D 255
;Suggest=3D1
; uncomment this to disable the UNDO feature (will save memory)
;UnDo=3D0
;IgnoreAll=3D0

İLabels¨
; label for F2
;2=3Dyeah

İFilter¨
; up to ten DOS filters/commands can be specified here
; '%s' will be replaced by the input file name
; '@@' will ask the user for a string and insert it there
; if the command produces output, it should be redirected to SCRATCH
;
Grep &PIM =3D grep -in "@@" c:\pim\data\*.* >SCRATCH
Grep &Directory =3D grep -in "@@" *.c *.h *. *.doc *.me *.txt >SCRATCH
; find all occurances of string with GREP and show line numbers
&Grep File =3D grep -n "@@" <%s >SCRATCH
; create a directory listing for user specified directory
DIR___________________________________ =3D dir @@ >SCRATCH
; edit selection in hex
&Hex edit =3D hexedit.bat %s
PGP &Sign =3D maxdos d:\dos\command.com /c PGPSIGN.BAT %s
PGP &Encode =3D maxdos d:\dos\command.com /c PGPENC.BAT %s

İDB¨
; parameters for database functions (see PE.DOC)
;PHONE.PIM=3D.p

İPIM¨
; parameters for PIM functions (see PIM.DOC)
;Data=3Da:\c\pim\dist\data
;Index=3Da:\c\pim\dist\index
;Cur=3Da:\c\pim\dist\data\cur.pim
;Prog=3Da:\c\pim\dist\pim.exe

İMenu¨
; Menu of files accessable through Shift-F6
;&Email=3Dc:\www\post.adr
;&Notes=3D!a:\c\pim\dist\data\notes.pim

I don't know if I have something set wrong, or am doing something
wrong, but I do not have these same problems with the previous
version, with the same basic .cfg file settings.  Could you or someone
else please try repeating my exact problem, on this latest new
version.  I would appreciate any help, and would like to be able to
use the latest version, but won't be able to if it is going to keep
locking me up like this.  Thanks for your help in advance.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:05:28 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?

THe Aegis needs to get it's power from the serial ports. It may not be able
to do this on a modem port. Don't forget that that pinouts for a modem
serial port are different than a PC besides pins 2,3. I think we need
someone wel versed in serial communications.

This site might help: http://www.taltech.com/introserial.htm



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez İmailto:ddvteach@STRATO.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:36 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
>
>
> Hello all.  Can anyone tell me if there is any reason why the above
> combination cannot work?  The Aegis IR-HP5 is the IR adaptor sold on
> palmtop.net.  I found that it can be physically connected to
> an external
> modem.  What I am trying to do is to break the 14,400 barrier
> for external
> modems (the com port has that barrier, the IR port apparently
> does not).  It
> would be great to download email at 56k without swapping out
> my flash card.
> Has anyone tried this?
>
> TIA
>
> Domingo
>
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Subject:      Re: PE 2.2

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto İmailto:garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 4:46 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ PE 2.2
>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> > I've noticed PE 2.2 lock ups also. If I run pe with the '@'
> paramter but
> > have no srclist file it locks me up

>
> Oops. Seems to be a bug. I can reproduce it. Will fix it.

Really? kewl. I've never been the first one to find and report a bug before.

>
> Thanks for reporting that!
>
> Andreas
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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:04:47 -0500 (EST)

01h39m24s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

> ...
>
> Antonio & Al,
>
> I also use Quick View as my default viewer for X-Finder and it works =
great.
>
> Q: Why are you using PNS200? Quick View works without it!
>

        I have yet to take the "X-Finder plunge". I've played with it
        alot, but haven't had the time to dedicate to setting it up.
        I'm on "vacation" for the next week & 1/2, and it is on my ToDo
        list(actually, so is ToDo ;-)  )

        Anyway, for .doc, .txt, etc files, I like to choose between
        PalEdit, MEMO, LIST, QuickView, depending on what I want to do
        with the file. Can X-Finder do this w/o PNS200?

        Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:27:55 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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I'll copy our webmaster, Tom Gibson, on this.

<<
> If I try to download (from SUPER, the newest files) the
> "X-Copy-Like-Program" for use with X-Finder, I get only one line of
> text-rubbish in my browser???

It's because Thaddeus' web-server doesn't send out the correct MIME type
for .com files. It sends out text/plain as the type, and so the browser
thinks it is downloading another HTML file.

To fix the problem, the correct type should be added to the web-server's
configuration. Something like:

application/octet-stream        com>>

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From:         "Paul R. Bernard" <prb@THINKAGE.ON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
In-Reply-To:  Ed Padin's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:05:28 -0400"

Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> writes:

> THe Aegis needs to get it's power from the serial ports. It may not be able
> to do this on a modem port. Don't forget that that pinouts for a modem
> serial port are different than a PC besides pins 2,3. I think we need
> someone wel versed in serial communications.

I'm not well versed but I won't let that stop me :-).

The first stumbling block will be that the modem will most likely want
to have DTR (Data Terminal Ready) asserted when you try to make a
call.  I can't say this for certain because I never managed to get the
IR-HP5 to work with with a serial line breakout box in place (even
when I gave it power) so I could see what was happening but I don't
think the IR-HP5 will assert signals like DTR.  I think there are some
modems that can be convinced to ignore DTR but I don't know common
they are.  Another stumbling block is that your communications program
on the LX will most likely want to see DCD (carrier detect).  I really
doubt that the concept exists on the internal IR.  Again some comm
programs can be told to ignore the signal.

I've tried to setup a SLIP connection over IR but failed completely.
I have successfully spoofed ckermit to talk over IR to a desktop but
it seems nearly impossible to get a reliable file transfer over the IR
link that exceeds 500 bytes per second.  I've more or less given up
and have to content myself with FILER and LXTOOLS which works reliably
in both directions at 57600.

If anyone else has succeeded and can point out errors in my attempts
I like to hear from them.

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** Reply to note from Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> 07/13/99  3:20pm -0500

I think you can call the HP help line at 970-635-1000 and request them and
they'll send them to you for free. HTH

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<<When I sent in my 200LX for servicing by Thaddeus I asked for a new
display and sent the additional funds to cover it. They sent me back a
refund for that amount and explained that at that time they were out of
stock of new displays, but
nevertheless effected a repair to my machine. They didn't
specify what they had done, but they fixed it.>>

Is the machine we fixed the one with screen problems?  We have a 90 day
warranty on all work (and for an extra $25 that can be extended for a year.)

Most likely what we did was take another screen from a different unit.  By
the way we now have new screens -- they will probably last us for a few more
months, and then I don't know if we will be able to get more.


Hal from Thaddeus

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Is anyone using the new PKZIP with LXBackup? I keep getting an insufficient
memory error.

I close all other applications and call LXBackup from the More Applications
screen using "|" at the end of the command line. This worked with the older
version of PKZIP. It only works with the new version if I terminate system
manager, but I'd rather not do that.

I'm running a stock 2 Mb 200LX.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Don

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:50:21 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: Don Puscher
> Is anyone using the new PKZIP with LXBackup? I keep > > getting an
insufficient memory error.
... snip ...
> Any suggestions?

  Have you tried using MaxDos? (Should work as long as your MaxDos swap file
isn't on the disk you're trying to back up...  Even if it is, I suppose you
could just explicitly exclude the swap file).

      ... JLS

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:11:21 -0800
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Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

I have yet to take the "X-Finder plunge". I've played with it
alot, but haven't had the time to dedicate to setting it up.
I'm on "vacation" for the next week & 1/2, and it is on my ToDo
list(actually, so is ToDo ;-)  )

Anyway, for .doc, .txt, etc files, I like to choose between
PalEdit, MEMO, LIST, QuickView, depending on what I want to do
ith the file. Can X-Finder do this w/o PNS200?


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Hey Al,

First of all, Whats " A Vacation "? (:-¨
Just kidding, haven't had one in almost (3) years it was (8) years before that.

To answer your question, X-Finder can do all of that. Just set the
files/program up in the finder.env.


You can have:

PalEdit set to open .txt
MEMO set to open .doc
LIST set to any file thats not set to execution by matched file extension.
and have QuickView set as your default viewer.


HTH

Regards,

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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:44:35 -0500, Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> =
wrote:

> I still have not resolved my problems with the new PE.

Has anyone, other than Andreas, gotten the new PE to work with PGP?

Jeff

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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:16:28 -0400 (EDT)

03h01m15s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Al Kind wrote:

>         Anyway, for .doc, .txt, etc files, I like to choose between
>         PalEdit, MEMO, LIST, QuickView, depending on what I want to do
>         with the file. Can X-Finder do this w/o PNS200?

Yep.  No problem.  You can assign up to 3 different associations for
each file extension in the "execution by matched file extension"
section in finder.env.  You can also re-assign the letter key
definitions to add alternate viewers, editors etc.

HTH

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:29:13 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Well, after examining the input from another list member, and comparing
his and my measurements with some I took using a 60X high power micro-
scope w/an engraced scale on the graticle, I have arrived at the following
educated guess for our 200LX screen resolution:

VERTICAL   0.22 mm / pixel
HORIZ     0.185 mm / pixel

I used the following logic to arrive at these values:  First, that the
"natural" unit of measurement that the designers used was metric.  Also,
I assumed that neither Bob nor I would mis-read our ruler's by more than
one "unit".  I was using 50-ths of an inch (an engineering scale) and
Bob used millimeters.  When you multiply out the numbers above by the
screen size (640x200), you get within one "unit" of both mine and Bob's
measurements.  So, until I hear otherwise from the manufacturer, and I
do have an inquiry pending, I'm willing to use the numbers above as a
"best guess".

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:47:05 -0400
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The original messages are on the computer gathering dust in the garage...

A fine member of this list stated that he had a program that emulated IBM
3151 terminals. Were you able to find it? If so, I would like to attempt to
get it to run on the HP. Please let me know.

The other possible solution to my problem was the use of Procomm Plus as a
emulator. Two readers did state they had copies and that a emulation of an
IBM 3161 was available.

I cannot find acceptable solutions with freeware or shareware.

I have to barter for these solutions:
WP 5.1 with manuals, box, disks, and registration card.
OS/2 v 2.1 w/ upgrade to 3.0, disks and manuals - I also have 4.0 that I
believe will install as a stand alone. 3.0 requires 2.1 (or previous for
install) A couple of OS/2 books could be tossed in for fun. Heck - I also
have Notes 4.1 for OS/2 as well.

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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Re: Quick View and PNS200
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On 14 Jul 99, at 9:25, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:



> I also use Quick View as my default viewer for X-Finder and it works
> great.
>
> Q: Why are you using PNS200? Quick View works without it!
>

Hello Quinton. I don't use PNS200 for QView. I use PNS200 to call
Memo as the editor in X-Finder

Regards

Antonio
---------------------------------------------------------
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:17:09 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Re: ELKS on HP200LX

Where is this LXRef ? I didn't find it on super !

 /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
(=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
 '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 10:29 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: ELKS on HP200LX
>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, The Hornbergers wrote:
>
> > The HP's internals are detailed in the Software Development Kit
> > available from Thaddeus (www.PalmtopPaper.com).
>
> There are now three version of the SDK available.  The book version (sold
> by Thaddeus), the electronic Windows version (sold by Thaddeus and
> included on the CD Infobases), the new HTML version that can be run on the
> 200LX (included on the 1999 CD Infobase, and it makes use of my nifty
> search engine <g>).
>
> There's also LXRef, a free version of the SDK that may or may not contain
> the same info as the others (haven't checked into it thoroughly), and NKIT
> on SUPER which is used for programming EXM applications.  Some of the
> calls in the NKIT files may be useful for an ELKS port; I'm not sure.
> Also, there's PAL (available from Thaddeus or at the PAL homepage which
> I'm too tired to go find the URL to right now) which also contains source
> and could be useful for an ELKS port.
>
> Okay, did I miss anything?  <g>
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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:06:47 -0400 (EDT)

01h08m27s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:

> Hello Quinton. I don't use PNS200 for QView. I use PNS200 to call
> Memo as the editor in X-Finder

Hi Antonio-

Not Quinton -- (different "Findermaniac" 8-)  ).  Out of curiousity,
what advantage does PNS have for this purpose?   I know Memo doesn't
work properly as the XF editor in non-English palmtops.  Is PNS a
solution to this problem?

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:30:51 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Why not make the replacement 200 in cast magnesium? Light and durable, and
...
> The magnesium case would of course be waterproof, certified to 50 metres,
> and able to withstand a rifle bullet head on. (soft point ammunition only)

We could ask Smith&Wesson to make the case; it would go well
with my 6" 686+ !!  :-)

cheers... Russ

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:30:51 GMT, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET> wrote:

> We could ask Smith&Wesson to make the case; it would go well
> with my 6" 686+ !!  :-)

As much as I love my S&W 686, I have to admit that I no longer carry it =
on
duty and have transitioned to a Glock 22. I had been a devout wheelgun =
man
but I absolutely love my Glock. I had a very good friend who got shot =
during
an incident a couple of weeks ago. His vest stopped the first round and =
his
Glock stopped the second 9mm round as he turned to get away from the
gunfire. The polymer frame of the Glock actually deflected the FMJ 9mm
round. I figure that since Mr. Gaston Glock has mastered the art of =
polymer
engineering, that we should recruit him to make a replacement case.

Jeff

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           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:11:19 -0400
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              The Hornbergers <n3myw@MEDIAONE.NET>
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Domingo,

The Modem and IR ports both have a "14,400 BPS limitation".  This is due
to the 16450 type UART (serial control chip) built into the Hornet chip
in the LX.  The Uart can be set for faster speeds, but you risk dropping
characters.  The only way to get a reliable high speed (>14,400 BPS)
connection is with a PCMCIA modem that has a 16550A type UART built in.

HTH,
Tom

"Quinton Jones, Jr." wrote:
>
> Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET> wrote:
>
> Hello all.  Can anyone tell me if there is any reason why the above
> combination cannot work?  The Aegis IR-HP5 is the IR adaptor sold on
> palmtop.net.  I found that it can be physically connected to an external
> modem.  What I am trying to do is to break the 14,400 barrier for external
> modems (the com port has that barrier, the IR port apparently does not).  It
> would be great to download email at 56k without swapping out my flash card.
> Has anyone tried this?
>
>     -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------
>
> Domingo,
>
> What 14,400 barrier for external modems?
> I use an external modem on my 2x and can connect at 38400.
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
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Stephen,

Sorry, I got side tracked by vacation. I'll check tomorrow if I can get
a copy of that program.

Tom


Stephen Petty wrote:
>
> The original messages are on the computer gathering dust in the garage...
>
> A fine member of this list stated that he had a program that emulated IBM
> 3151 terminals. Were you able to find it? If so, I would like to attempt to
> get it to run on the HP. Please let me know.
>
> The other possible solution to my problem was the use of Procomm Plus as a
> emulator. Two readers did state they had copies and that a emulation of an
> IBM 3161 was available.
>
> I cannot find acceptable solutions with freeware or shareware.
>
> I have to barter for these solutions:
> WP 5.1 with manuals, box, disks, and registration card.
> OS/2 v 2.1 w/ upgrade to 3.0, disks and manuals - I also have 4.0 that I
> believe will install as a stand alone. 3.0 requires 2.1 (or previous for
> install) A couple of OS/2 books could be tossed in for fun. Heck - I also
> have Notes 4.1 for OS/2 as well.
>
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Subject:      Back from the Pilot
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After a year spent using a Pilot I finally changed employer, gave the =
Pilot back, and my HP200 is now back in service.

I was unable to open the archive notes on transferring address info from =
the Pilot to the HP -- how is it done?

Thanks
Phil Godden

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<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After a year spent using a Pilot I =
finally changed=20
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service.</FONT></DIV>
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on=20
transferring address info from the Pilot to the HP -- how is it=20
done?</FONT></DIV>
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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   >gunfire. The polymer frame of the Glock actually deflected the FMJ
   >9mm round. I figure that since Mr. Gaston Glock has mastered the
   >art of polymer engineering, that we should recruit him to make a
   >replacement case.
Message-Id: <19990715023323.GTHH2808@İ12.72.155.76¨>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:33:23 +0000

Ah... yet another use for our ever-busy serial port!

Anyone know the caliber?

- Longden

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This is an old topic for this list, but I have discovered a
couple of new (actually old) things that are pretty nifty.

One is XVI, which I found via a search at www.shareware.com.
The two best things about it are the ability to split the screen
(multiple times) and the choice of grep or egrep expressions.
The nice thing about the split screen is you can zoom in and
adjust the window so the command line is still visible.
It's bigger and a little slower than Calvin but smaller and
faster than Elvis.  The only problem is, after I use it at some
point I'll notice that screen painting in Sysmgr is a lot
slower, and I have to reboot to fix it. This is on a DS/32MB
running Carousel, and I'm not 100% sure XVI is the culprit,
but I'm suspicious.  Has anyone else tried this?

The other is SPE (Sage Professional Editor), vintage 1991. Has
anyone ever used this?  I use to do Everything with it on my
286 laptop but always thought it would run too slow on a 200LX.
But then someone here posted some benchmarks that showed a DS
compares favorably with a 286, so I thought I'd try it, and it
works great!  It's large (over 2 MB with all the source and help
files), but it does do everything and it's very programmable.
It's still the best way to compare two files in split-screen.
I have customized it to do Filer-like functions (including a
split directory and tree display, a la STS), and Calendar and
Dialer functions similar to Sidekick 1.0 (anyone remember that?).
It already included a Dec/Oct/Hex calculator and an ASCII table.
Overall, performance is excellent, though it takes several
seconds to start up, so I always run it in its own SC window.
SPE was overtaken in the marketplace by Multi-Edit, but
I believe I heard that Compuware bought it some time back, and
I suspect they turned it into "Predator," an OS2 editor, but
I'm not sure if that's still around either.

Has anyone tried SPE or XVI?  If you have SPE and want to try
my code, I'll send it to you, off-list, of course.

-George-
A 200LX Fanatic!

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Quinton Jones, Jr. writes:
> For kicks I'm now working on getting a "You Got Mail" wave file to run after
> downloading. (:-¨

I wouldnt go as far as playing a wav file but a nice friendly BEEP or
snd file would be nice.  I would play a snd file except that I run LXTCP
under MAXDOS and to play snd files you need SYSTEM MANAGER running as far
as I know. Anyone have a nice small app that plays friendly beeps?


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Subject:      Re: PNR, a pleased user!

 2
> Here is an account of my second (preferred) method of managing
> e-mail addresses.  For the past few months I have been using a
> custom LX database to store my e-mail addresses (1).  I have a
> Smart Clip built that will grab the e-mail address formatted as:
>
>    FirstName LastName <user@host.domain>
>
> The trick here is to grab the address *before* invoking "Mail"
> in PNR.  Once the dialog box comes up, you are not able to switch
> to other SysMan applications.
>
I use the "Alternate"  entry in the phone book for email, and smart clip
Name & Email as:
Name <Alternate>
This works really nicely. For groups of users to which I always send
email, I use the aliases

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:59:36 -0400
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Subject:      Re: VI Editors on the 200LX

   >Has anyone tried SPE or XVI?  If you have SPE and want to try
Message-Id: <19990715045945.QLAE4651@İ12.72.155.71¨>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:59:45 +0000

I tried XVI before settling on Calvin and VIM 3.0.

Be careful using XVI with large files. I seem to remember those causing
lockups requiring a reboot cuz it loads the file into available memory.

- Longden

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Robert Hocking wrote:
> I still have not resolved my problems with the new PE

As pointed out in a different message, there is a bug in the new
version of PE: when PE is started and there is no file to be opened, PE
starts "working" with no file, which is "difficult" <G>

Even though I use PE at least a hundred times a day and the bug exists
for several month now, neither me nor any of the beta testers ever hit
it.

And this leads me to the question: Why do you start PE and then decide
to not open a file? If you don't want to edit anything, why to you
launch PE at all?

> When I run PE the PICK window comes up and asks me what file to open.
> If I hit ESC the PICK window disappears & PE is now the active window,

This is what I fail to understand. Why do you do that? There *is* a
bug, I don't deny that, but it only hits when you do the above and the
above seems to be nonsensical to me.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:07:44 +0100
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>> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:
>> Hello Quinton. I don't use PNS200 for QView. I use PNS200 to call
>> Memo as the editor in X-Finder

> Hi Antonio-
> Not Quinton -- (different "Findermaniac" 8-)  ).  Out of curiousity,
> what advantage does PNS have for this purpose?   I know Memo doesn't
> work properly as the XF editor in non-English palmtops.  Is PNS a
> solution to this problem?
> -Peniel

Hi All,

I finally solved that problem with my German Palmtop for me. If I press
(for a choosed file) "Edit" {F9} in the X-Finder-Menu, I use PE (same for
"Custom" {F7}). For using MEMO (I prefer this sometimes), I press SHIFT+E.
For that, Editor Settings in Finder.env have to look like that:

#Editor setting
%e      ,0      ,240||pe                                #PalEdit
=e      ,0      ,$c %p%c; $m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}  #Memo


Regards, Axel
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 03:11:19 -0800
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Subject:      cs.exe cardsoft driver needed in Detroit, MI
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Hey! If anybody lives in Detroit, MI. A friend is there handling a case
and needs to replace a corrupt cs.exe.

So if you're in that area, please contact me ASAP.

Thanks

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:12:47 +1000
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Hello everyone

I hate to ask this here, but I know some people on this list where
talking about some internet sites which had maps of USA cities.

I am looking for one that has LA and NY. Just the cities will do, but
it has to be  to the street level.

TIA

David

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:25:59 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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David Becher writes:
>
> I use the "Alternate"  entry in the phone book for email,...

And where do you store mobile phone or pager numbers?

Ted

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From:         LP <lprado@DYNAMO.COM.AR>
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Yo lo estoy usando solamnete tuve problemas durante el sabado y el doming=
o.
Si necesitas algo avisame.
Saludos


Luis Prado Romero


----- Original Message -----
From: Paco L=F3pez <fll@CEC.JUNTA-ANDALUCIA.ES>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 6:24 AM
Subject: Infovia Plus


> I was a happy spanish user of WWW/LX but from Dec-98 till now, I have b=
een
> unable to connect again. I think it is due to the new Internet phone ac=
ces
> system stablished in Spain called Infovia Plus. The technical Dasoft
> support could not help me.
>
> Is any spanish user using WWW/LX successfully?. If so, please HELP!
>
> Paco Lopez.
>
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Roger,

To make Qman's script work with multiple ISP's should not be too hard. Setup a
seperate WATCP.CFG file for each ISP - call them ISP1.cfg, ISP2.cfg, etc. Now
also assume that you want all the email to be lumped togther in the inbox (If
you want the incoming emails each routed to a seperate, see the documentation).
In Quionton's Script, ehere the :MAIL Label is, do the following:

:MAIL
copy ISP1.CFG WATTCP.CFG
cclxpop.exe
copy ISP2.cfg WATTCP.CFG
cclxpop.exe
goto

This will then use your same Packet connection to gather email from each email
source you use. As I mentioned earlier, the documentation discusses how to do
this so as to send each incoming email to its own folder.

Let me know if I can be of more help.
Brian



_________________Reply Seperator__________________

Thanks for the reply. That's what I thought, since other apps like MEMO also
has the same problem. Can a new font help?
Qman had sent me the batch he wrote for auto redial & etc. Is is possible to
integrate it with the batch you suggested for multi pop? If so, how? I don't
know much about DOS and batch.... but trying....

TIA

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:36:13 -0400
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As I recall from list discussions, there is a uart issue (spell?) which does
not allow the serial port to go any faster, so that the external modem can
go faster, but internally it would still be slow. Though I have heard that
ds machines might keep up better.  Also, the comm. program ZIP is very fast
through the serial port, with no modem at all, and very reliable! ( I wonder
how it does it?  If I could get it to be as easy as Transfile, I would use
only ZIP for transfers).

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones, Jr. <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?


> Domingo,
>
> What 14,400 barrier for external modems?
> I use an external modem on my 2x and can connect at 38400.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:38:51 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
Comments: To: The Hornbergers <n3myw@MEDIAONE.NET>
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Hmmm, the palmtop.net site suggests that the faster speeds work fine with
Transfile and the Aegis thingy.

Domingo

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From: The Hornbergers <n3myw@MEDIAONE.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?


> The Modem and IR ports both have a "14,400 BPS limitation".  This is due
> to the 16450 type UART (serial control chip) built into the Hornet chip
> in the LX.  The Uart can be set for faster speeds, but you risk dropping
> characters.  The only way to get a reliable high speed (>14,400 BPS)
> connection is with a PCMCIA modem that has a 16550A type UART built in.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul R. Bernard <prb@THINKAGE.ON.CA>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?


> Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> writes:
>
> > THe Aegis needs to get it's power from the serial ports. It may not be
able
> > to do this on a modem port. Don't forget that that pinouts for a modem
> > serial port are different than a PC besides pins 2,3.

That's what converters are for, I thought.

I don't normally quote a whole section and then say something brief, but I
have not seen an answer to the following, which I think is the crux of the
matter.

> The first stumbling block will be that the modem will most likely want
> to have DTR (Data Terminal Ready) asserted when you try to make a
> call.  I can't say this for certain because I never managed to get the
> IR-HP5 to work with with a serial line breakout box in place (even
> when I gave it power) so I could see what was happening but I don't
> think the IR-HP5 will assert signals like DTR.  I think there are some
> modems that can be convinced to ignore DTR but I don't know common
> they are.  Another stumbling block is that your communications program
> on the LX will most likely want to see DCD (carrier detect).  I really
> doubt that the concept exists on the internal IR.  Again some comm
> programs can be told to ignore the signal.
>
> I've tried to setup a SLIP connection over IR but failed completely.
> I have successfully spoofed ckermit to talk over IR to a desktop but
> it seems nearly impossible to get a reliable file transfer over the IR
> link that exceeds 500 bytes per second.  I've more or less given up
> and have to content myself with FILER and LXTOOLS which works reliably
> in both directions at 57600.
>
> If anyone else has succeeded and can point out errors in my attempts
> I like to hear from them.
>
> - paul

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:17:58 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:48:34 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

Re using PNS200 with XF, it looks like it may be a good approach for
users of non-English language palmtops who want to use Memo for the
editor.

Hadn't looked too closely at PNS before, because I've been using Stereo
Shell, and now XF, and they both allow multiple launch options
depending on file specs.  One place that PNS should be perfect is in
conjunction with whereis.exm (the file finder).  After locating the
file(s), whereis opens a box to specify an application to launch
relating to the found file. Ideal for PNS...


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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:19:11 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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Any idea if this works on cclxpop, and if so how much time each comma adds?

Thanks

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Freeway and ccMail


> Have you tried putting in commas to the dial string to wait?
> Like this:
> ATDT16095551212,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:58:53 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

je> Has anyone, other than Andreas, gotten the new PE to work with PGP?
je>
je> Jeff

Hi there Jeff,

I'm kind of at a loss to explain this but here goes;
I had absolutly no problems using PGP with the new PE/PIM
to the point that I added decrypt and verify functions and
they worked like a charm BUT I went to answer your post with
hubris and PGP didn't work. It worked with the previous version
so I got confused. As this shows, I figured it out somewhat.
To get it to work I have to exit the System Manager and launch
Post by itself, apparantly the new PE takes up enough more
memory to make the PGP function fail. I'll be dumping some TSRs
to see if that helps.

HTH

Paul


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQBVAwUBN42jQrxFWAnee0BJAQEcqgH9GeryXCLzLDxtYsWVekqLE8/eqJpCKkNt
4zGaYW7EO+BrYX3qH14Absp1b27GSd0NHt5hJj2aRF/U4Cf6Cih8Zw=3D=3D
=3DudsP
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:52:51 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Freeway and ccMail

I think each comma is 2 seconds but many modems allow this to be set. I use
this trick to dial with a dialing card

ATDT{card 800 accessnumber},,,{card code},,{number to dial},,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez İmailto:ddvteach@STRATO.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:19 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Freeway and ccMail
>
>
> Any idea if this works on cclxpop, and if so how much time
> each comma adds?
>
> Thanks
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Freeway and ccMail
>
>
> > Have you tried putting in commas to the dial string to wait?
> > Like this:
> > ATDT16095551212,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:

Robert Hocking wrote:

And this leads me to the question: Why do you start PE and then decide
to not open a file? If you don't want to edit anything, why to you
launch PE at all?

> When I run PE the PICK window comes up and asks me what file to open.
> If I hit ESC the PICK window disappears & PE is now the active window,

This is what I fail to understand. Why do you do that? There *is* a
bug, I don't deny that, but it only hits when you do the above and the
above seems to be nonsensical to me.



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Correct me if I'm wrong Robert.

But what I think he is trying to do is create a new file.
If this is the case, He just needs to put a name in the pick box and hit
İENTER¨ and not İESC¨.

Then he'll get a blank screen, and PE should work just fine. Right!

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:28:32 -0400
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <00c501becec7$620103c0$73a81ad1@default>; from Domingo
              Diaz-Vazquez on Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 09:38:51AM -0400
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> Hmmm, the palmtop.net site suggests that the faster speeds work fine with
> Transfile and the Aegis thingy.

To clarify: The Aegis IR-HP5 is hardware locked at 57600 bps and it does
work very well at this speed. It will work with Transfile, CPACK and
LXTOOLS (and maybe others).
--
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:48:14 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 03:46:39 -0800, "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.N=
ET> wrote:

> This is what I fail to understand. Why do you do that? There *is* a
> bug, I don't deny that, but it only hits when you do the above and the
> above seems to be nonsensical to me.

It does sound odd, but then again, I'm odd <g>. I'm just glad to live in =
a
country where you can do nonsensical things and not be persecuted for =
them.

Jeff

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Isn't this done on the client side?  A setting in your browser?

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
> If I try to download (from SUPER, the newest files) the
> "X-Copy-Like-Program" for use with X-Finder, I get only one line of
> text-rubbish in my browser???

It's because Thaddeus' web-server doesn't send out the correct MIME type
for .com files.

To fix the problem, the correct type should be added to the web-server's
configuration. Something like:

application/octet-stream        com

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:23:26 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Westlaw on HP200lx

Are any attorneys or support staff out there accessing Westlaw using the
200lx??  Care to share your secrets?

Right now, I have to have the office grab the document and print it to
email where I pick it up with GP (still evaluating but like very much).
I'd prefer the ability to do the search and grab the text without that
call to the office.

Larry Zimmerman

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      LXTCP: cannot resolve host

Hello Everyone

I was wondering if anybody has had the above error message with LXTCP.
I log in just fine using dosppp but after I do I can neither ping
anything except my remote address and lxpop and lxnntp give me the same
error. It was working fine until I tried it today and as far as I know
my ISP hasn't changed anything. Any thoughts? TIA.

John

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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:15:51 EST, John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>=
 wrote:

> my ISP hasn't changed anything. Any thoughts? TIA.

Verify you have the correct nameserver IP for your ISP. Also, there is a
possibility that who/what you are trying to ping has changed IP's and =
your
local nameserver doesn't have the latest IP yet. Good luck!

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:51:13 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:10:05 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again, gang-

After posting the suggestion about using PNS200 with whereis.exm, I
found a major problem.  It looks like even though the .exm is only
6514 bytes, whereis grabs ALL remaining system manager memory when
it's fired up. I checked this by doing İCtrl¨İ123¨ and mem /c.  It
shows the same results either from X-Finder or with all apps closed,
and launched with the hot-key.  So -- it seems that you can only
launch DOS apps from whereis, not system manager compliant one.  Kills
a big possible advantage of using PNS.

Oh well - learn something new every day...

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:28:55 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Mitch,

<<To clarify: The Aegis IR-HP5 is hardware locked at 57600 bps and it does
work very well at this speed. It will work with Transfile, CPACK and
LXTOOLS (and maybe others).>>

Are you sure it works with other packages besides Transfile -- especially
CPACK?  The author (who may not really have known) told me it just worked
with Transfile.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:42:32 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
In-Reply-To:  <B0AB4DD57CD5D1118A230060975A1005278970@mailhost.thaddeus.com>
              from "Hal Goldstein" at Jul 15, 99 11:28:55 am
Content-Type: text

> Are you sure it works with other packages besides Transfile -- especially
> CPACK?  The author (who may not really have known) told me it just worked
> with Transfile.

I've used it successfully w/CPACK w/out any problems.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:29:20 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:06:57 -0400 (EDT)

Hello (it's me AGAIN!)-

The WhereIs saga continues...  Well, after finding that PNS has very
limited utility with whereis, I looked at the XF docs again.  Gotta
remind myself to RTFM more often 8-)   Anyway, if you launch whereis
from XF, all you need to do is select the file from the list in
whereis, and hit İCut¨.  You'll find yourself in the XF file browser
with the file highlighted.  At this point you can take whatever
actions are set up in finder.ini

Later


-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:12:23 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Westlaw on HP200lx
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> Are any attorneys or support staff out there accessing Westlaw using
> the 200lx??  Care to share your secrets?

Okay, what's Westlaw... some kind of database?

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I don't know if their DOS software still works.  Have you tried searching
through their website?

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:15:49 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Are you sure it works with other packages besides Transfile --
> especially CPACK?  The author (who may not really have known) told me
> it just worked with Transfile.

It works as a standard serial port, as far as I can tell.  I was able to
run Telemate in "chat" mode with my desktop through the IR link, to test
the distance it will go to.  Oddly, after about three feet, the characters
typed on the 200LX no longer showed up on the desktop's screen, but the
characters typed on the desktop still got through to the palmtop.  Not
sure if that means the IR-HP5 puts out a brighter IR signal than the
palmtop's built-in IR, or what.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:32:23 EST
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTCP: cannot resolve host

** Reply to note from Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> 07/15/99 11:36am -0500

> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:15:51 EST, John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > my ISP hasn't changed anything. Any thoughts? TIA.
>
> Verify you have the correct nameserver IP for your ISP. Also, there is a
> possibility that who/what you are trying to ping has changed IP's and your
> local nameserver doesn't have the latest IP yet. Good luck!
>

Thanks Jeff. I managed to get it going by reducing the baud rate. It's been hot
today so maybe my trusty LX got a little heat exhaustion<g>.

John

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:41:55 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I think each comma is 2 seconds but many modems allow this to be set. I use
> this trick to dial with a dialing card
>
> ATDT{card 800 accessnumber},,,{card code},,{number to dial},,


One thing to keep in mind is that too many commas may cause
CHAT to timeout before you receive the CONNECT response.  The
docs say the TIMEOUT value can be modified, but I've never
spent enough time working with it to get it to work, prefering
to spend my time fine tuning the dial string.

Ted

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Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

Hello (it's me AGAIN!)-

The WhereIs saga continues...  Well, after finding that PNS has very
limited utility with whereis, I looked at the XF docs again.  Gotta
remind myself to RTFM more often 8-)   Anyway, if you launch whereis
from XF, all you need to do is select the file from the list in
whereis, and hit İCut¨.  You'll find yourself in the XF file browser
with the file highlighted.  At this point you can take whatever
actions are set up in finder.ini


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Hot Damn!

That was a great find/tip -Peniel ( İFN¨+İCUT¨ .
You the man...you the man... or person. (:-¨




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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:37:50 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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If you have an extra copy of this program I'd appreciate a copy.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:43:09 -0400
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> Part 2 of 2

Have not seen anything obvious ;-)

What about TSR's that you call in your autoexec.bat. How much memory do
you really have when you start PE. Check with the mem command in DOS.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Does anyone on the list either maintain a server with majordomo or =
listserv
software that would be willing to host a mailing list that consists of
Alabama police officers. The groups is approx 100 folks with maybe 30
messages a day. We have tried the eGroups.com route and it sucks!!! It
mysteriously unsubscribes people and with that web based service, you =
have
no real control of subscription options. If anyone or anyone knows where =
we
might be able to find a happy, little home for our alacop-l list please
email me. Thanks!

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:24:42 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> Isn't this done on the client side?  A setting in your browser?

You may be able to override the interpretation of the mime-type by a
setting in the browser, but it is the server that sends out the mime-type
for a requested file.


Cheers,

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John <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM> wrote:

"Have you tried using MaxDos? (Should work as long as your MaxDos swap file
isn't on the disk you're trying to back up...  Even if it is, I suppose you
could just explicitly exclude the swap file)."

==================

I had tried to use MaxDos before and got an error message about not being
able to find the cfg file. After John's suggestion I wrote a batch file to
call lxbackup.exe from MaxDos and it worked like a charm.

Thanks!
Don

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:55:07 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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First of all let me say that IR on the LX works great!
I regularly use the built in COMMS program to transfer files to/from my
Compaq laptop at 38400 without problems. I use HyperTerminal on a Win 95
machine.
I have had a few glitches at 57600, so I have settled for the slower spee=
d.

Your transfer rate should be above 2000 characters/second, closer to 3000.

As for trying to run a modem via an IR converter, I see no problem with
that, as long as the IR hardware performs faster than the LX UART.

The link handshaking would be handled by the "packet protocol" (like Xmod=
em
or SLIP) so this is not a problem either, unless you go beyond the LX
acceptable speed.

As to the modem, most modems can be set to ignore control lines. (I wante=
d
to check, but I end up finding everything but my USRobotics programming
guide). You would have to manually check that you got a connection, but
that's all.

The HP COMMS program doesn't care about other lines than 2,3&7 (on a good
old DB25) so that's no problem either.

Summa summarum: IR converter should pose no problem.

I understand your desired setup is:

TCP/IP...>SLIP..>200lxSerial port...>Serial->IRconverter...>Modem...>ISP

As I routinely use SLIP and Comms prog to access my Linux box via a cable=
,
I know that this setup works. The only difference in your setup is the us=
e
of IR and that is in my experience totally transparent. What dialling
software are you using, (will insist on modem controll unavailable over I=
R)
and what's the speed of your SLIP s/w?=20
I would try something like Minuett that does SLIP resonably fast on a LX
(Yes, I've tried it) or even Nettamer just to make sure that the link is
up. Then I'd start trying other S/W that's trickier to set up.

Just my 2 =F8re's worth (as they say in Norway!)
Cheers,
Paul Rasmussen

> > The first stumbling block will be that the modem will most likely wan=
t
> > to have DTR (Data Terminal Ready) asserted when you try to make a
> > call.  I can't say this for certain because I never managed to get th=
e
> > IR-HP5 to work with with a serial line breakout box in place (even
> > when I gave it power) so I could see what was happening but I don't
> > think the IR-HP5 will assert signals like DTR.  I think there are som=
e
> > modems that can be convinced to ignore DTR but I don't know common
> > they are.  Another stumbling block is that your communications progra=
m
> > on the LX will most likely want to see DCD (carrier detect).  I reall=
y
> > doubt that the concept exists on the internal IR.  Again some comm
> > programs can be told to ignore the signal.
> >
> > I've tried to setup a SLIP connection over IR but failed completely.
> > I have successfully spoofed ckermit to talk over IR to a desktop but
> > it seems nearly impossible to get a reliable file transfer over the I=
R
> > link that exceeds 500 bytes per second.  I've more or less given up
> > and have to content myself with FILER and LXTOOLS which works reliabl=
y
> > in both directions at 57600.


> > If anyone else has succeeded and can point out errors in my attempts
> > I like to hear from them.
> >
> > - paul
>=20
> Domingo
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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> I don't have the original message to refer to, but I thought the
> question was about the possibility of using a program to invert the
> screen (rather than pressing on+/), and possibly including a call to
> that program in batch files.  I have such a program if you are
> interested, which allows you to specify a video mode on the command
> line.

Thanks. I am not sure whether this program does what I want.
There are some programs (mainly games) which repeatedly reset
the screen back to normal mode from inverted mode
_while_running_. What you describe sounds to me like a program
which switches to inverted screen only initially. but please
send me the program anyway, I might be wrong.

I am looking for a utility (TSR) which _keeps_ the screen
inverted. I am not dreaming, the program exists, I used it when
I tried running "Time Of Lore" and "Railroad Tycoon" (try this
one on the Palmtop if you want to ruin your eyesight) on my HPLX
some years ago. I just cannot remember what program it was.

Reinhard



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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:02:15 +0200
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Serial port (was Aegis/ext. Modem)
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>As I recall from list discussions, there is a uart issue (spell?) which
does
>not allow the serial port to go any faster, so that the external modem can
>go faster, but internally it would still be slow
>
>> What 14,400 barrier for external modems?
>> I use an external modem on my 2x and can connect at 38400.

I cannot speak for the DS, but the standard LX has a 8250 UART. This means,
it has no buffer in the serial port. Of course, it is possible to 'connect'
at 38400
bps, but the transfer will slow down, because of the lot of errors.

When a 8250 UART serial port receives data with 38400 bps, it has to save
the
data on disk. The serial port uses an IRQ. The disk uses an IRQ too. Because
it is not possible to access 2 IRQs the same time, the data flow on the
serial
port is interrupted. The computer thinks, that this was a line error and
goes down
with the speed. The UART 16450/16550 have a buffer, so while the disk uses
the IRQ, the data flows into the buffer without interrupt. No data is lost,
so the
port can go on with high speed.

If someone tells you, that he has no problems with 'connecting' at high
speeds
(for me high speed is 14'400 and above), I can tell you the same. Of course
it is possible to connect at high speeds. But to 'connect' and to 'access'
are two
different things. You can check it with MSD.EXE from MS DOS. The COM port
section tells you, if a DS has a 8250 or a 16450/16550. If it is a 8250, you
have
not more average bps than 9600.

I hope my alps english is understandable.

-goe-

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I am also looking for this program if anyone has it.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Hello all.
I have now installed Lotus Agenda, (thanx to Paul Yarnell) and am
completeley freaked out! This is the Killer App that I have been waiting
for! It is so superior to other PIMS I have used, that I am constantly
grinning as I find new uses for it.
OK. I know not all of you have taken to it, and that you all have your
excuses, but have you guys actually given it a fair hearing?
'Love to hear from some power Agenda users out there!

Agenda also intrigues me for another reason - it was to be Lotus' next step
after 1-2-3, doing to unstructured information what 1-2-3 did to numbers
and tabular data. Now I have both of Mitch Kapor's babies, and I glimpse a
common parentage and a vision of completeness behind the combo.
It is strange that HP would chose a Lotus Metro clone (Phone/app) instead
of Agenda as a PIM for the LX.
After all HP influenced Lotus with the 1-2-3 + HP solver/backsolve
functionality into giving us version 2.4, so someone must have been
thinking right both at HP and Lotus in those days. (End of Rant&Rave)

My questions to the list are these:
1) How do you people run Agenda on the LX? I use AppMgr and MaxDos, but
then I can't cut&paste between Agenda and mail and the built-in apps.

2) I could switch to Metro for my list processing, and get the Lotus
clipboard functionality for DOS S/W. The Agenda manual mentions that the
Metro clipboard s/w is included, but aparently it isn't. Anybody know what
happened? Did they leave Metro out of later distributions?

3) How do you smoothly integrate DOS s/w with the LX apps, including
cut&paste and one button launcing?

Appologies for the rant&tave, but I'm really excited about this!

Cheers from
Paul Rasmussen
-newly converted Agenda user.

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  Good try, but wrong conclusion.  I just launched WhereIs, then launched a
separate EXM (which would be impossible if your conclusion was correct...).

  I then used WhereIs to search for all *.gdb files
and then opened one of them using PNS200.  It worked
just fine...

       ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peniel Romanelli İmailto:peniel@WEB2000.NET¨

> After posting the suggestion about using PNS200 with
> whereis.exm, I found a major problem.  It looks like
> even though the .exm is only 6514 bytes, whereis grabs
> ALL remaining system manager memory when it's fired
> up. I checked this by doing İCtrl¨İ123¨ and mem /c.
> It shows the same results either from X-Finder or
> with all apps closed, and launched with the hot-key.
> So -- it seems that you can only launch DOS apps from
> whereis, not system manager compliant one.  Kills
> a big possible advantage of using PNS.
>
> Oh well - learn something new every day...
>
> -Peniel

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:39:05 -0500
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> As pointed out in a different message, there is a bug in the new
> version of PE: when PE is started and there is no file to be opened, PE
> starts "working" with no file, which is "difficult" <G>
>
> Even though I use PE at least a hundred times a day and the bug exists
> for several month now, neither me nor any of the beta testers ever hit
> it.
>
> And this leads me to the question: Why do you start PE and then decide
> to not open a file? If you don't want to edit anything, why to you
> launch PE at all?
>
> > When I run PE the PICK window comes up and asks me what file to open.
> > If I hit ESC the PICK window disappears & PE is now the active =
window,
>
> This is what I fail to understand. Why do you do that? There *is* a
> bug, I don't deny that, but it only hits when you do the above and the
> above seems to be nonsensical to me.
>
> Andreas

Andreas,

I feel I follow this list very closely, and do not recall you
mentioning any "bug" that would pertain to the above problem I was
experencing, unless I missed that post.  I do recall a few days ago,
you replying to another user reporting a problem he was having with
PE, but I feel that problem was completely unreleated to any such
problems I was having.

That user reported his problem right after my first message I posted,
which if I recall from his subject line, was a reply to my original
message, and your reply to him, was that you were able to repeat his
problem, and you said that you would try to fix it in the next release
of PE.  However I thought that when you replied to my first message,
you stated that you were unable to repeat my above mentioned problem,
and asked for additional information.

The reason for my second message was to report that I was still unable
to resolve my problem, even with the many ways that I tried, and I
thought that maybe I still had something setup wrong.  This is the
first I heard you state that you are aware of the problem.  Like I
stated earlier, I don't recall you ever mentioning this particular
"bug", in fact if you, and all the beta testers use use PE many times
in a day, and never "hit" this particular problem, how could you be
aware of it?  Maybe I just don't understand your above reply, to my
previuos post.

To answer you question as why I would ever do what I did to get the
problem in the first place was very easy.  I accidentally launched PE
from system manger, by choosing the wrong icon, and needed to exit,
so when I pressed ESC after the first PICK window came up, it locked
me up.  When I posted my first message about my problem, I was just
trying to make you, and all the other PE users aware of the problem I
was having, and requested help to try to get it resolved.

I relize now that there is a simple work around for the problem, which
is to open an existing file, or create a new one, before backing out
of PE, if I accidentally hit the wrong icon again, launching PE when I
did not mean to.  That is an easy enough work around.  I use PE a lot
now and I think I mentioned it Avi once or twice, that I feel PE
should be shareware, or what ever you call it, where users that use
it, that want to support the author, and/or the company that released
it, could so by sending in some sort of fee.

I only use MEMO now to send my documents to my laser printer, from my
LX, because with PE, I am unable to adjust the left margin, to give me
the one inch left margin, which makes, in my opinion,  for a properly
formatted document.  I would gladly pay for any future upgrades to PE.
The ability to spell check all my documents, including my out going
email, helps me produce better quality documents, and am very thankful
for the chance to use PE.





Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:56:56 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
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Subject:      Palmtop Circuit and Tina_DOS by DesignSoft. Hello all,

I would like to notify those interested that the first
ones who ordered electric circuit simulator programs
Palmtop Circuit or Tina_for_Dos; got their packages
delivered. Thus these software titles are available now.

Those who wish to listen to a real world review first,
will have to wait until August, when the first users
get the spare time to look at more closely. They are
students mostly, so its exam rush time now; but they
promised to report to this list soon after.

              Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

PS.  A question: would you use the HP CapShare910 if
     HPLX could use the TIFF output?

____________________________________________________________
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:07:24 -0400
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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:34:38 -0400 (EDT)

01h03m25s ago ...
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Stanley, John L. wrote:

>   Good try, but wrong conclusion.  I just launched WhereIs, then =
launched a
> separate EXM (which would be impossible if your conclusion was correct..=
.).

Yep. You're right.  My mistake.  The problem was using İCtrl¨İ123¨ to
start the DOS session, then doing mem /c -- it seems this ALWAYS shows
the same division of memory between SysMgr and DOS (as assigned in
SETUP).  Other EXMs and PIMs can be launched OK.

However, when I try to open any databases from PNS, I get an out of
memory error.  Same thing if I try to open .?db files from whereis
using open.exe (out-of-memory).  This occurs whether XF is open or not
- even if ONLY whereis is open.  DOS apps launch fine.  I can open the
DB files using DBV (a DOS DB viewer).

>   I then used WhereIs to search for all *.gdb files
> and then opened one of them using PNS200.  It worked
> just fine...

Good to hear.  I'd like to see your PNS200.INI to see what I'm doing
wrong.  Like I said, I can start DOS apps with whereis/PNS but can't
open DBs in their native apps, or edit anything in Memo with this
combo.

Regards,

-Peniel
------------


> > -----Original Message-----

> > After posting the suggestion about using PNS200 with
> > whereis.exm, I found a major problem.  It looks like
> > even though the .exm is only 6514 bytes, whereis grabs
> > ALL remaining system manager memory when it's fired
> > up.

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In a message dated 7/15/99 4:56:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU writes:

> PS.  A question: would you use the HP CapShare910 if
>       HPLX could use the TIFF output?

Since viewing these files on the LX is problematical, the real issues are
whether Capshare files in either PDF or TIFF format could be stored on the LX
(preferably in a compressed archive) so as to free the Capshare's memory,
and, if so, how to establish the comm link.

-roger-

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Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:34:38 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 01h03m25s ago ...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Stanley, John L. wrote:
>
> >   Good try, but wrong conclusion.  I just launched WhereIs, then launched a
> > separate EXM (which would be impossible if your conclusion was correct...).
>
> Yep. You're right.  My mistake.  The problem was using İCtrl¨İ123¨ to
> start the DOS session, then doing mem /c -- it seems this ALWAYS shows
> the same division of memory between SysMgr and DOS (as assigned in
> SETUP).  Other EXMs and PIMs can be launched OK.
>
> However, when I try to open any databases from PNS, I get an out of
> memory error.  Same thing if I try to open .?db files from whereis
> using open.exe (out-of-memory).  This occurs whether XF is open or not
> - even if ONLY whereis is open.  DOS apps launch fine.  I can open the
> DB files using DBV (a DOS DB viewer).
>
> >   I then used WhereIs to search for all *.gdb files
> > and then opened one of them using PNS200.  It worked
> > just fine...
>
> Good to hear.  I'd like to see your PNS200.INI to see what I'm doing
> wrong.  Like I said, I can start DOS apps with whereis/PNS but can't
> open DBs in their native apps, or edit anything in Memo with this
> combo.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Peniel
> ------------
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > > After posting the suggestion about using PNS200 with
> > > whereis.exm, I found a major problem.  It looks like
> > > even though the .exm is only 6514 bytes, whereis grabs
> > > ALL remaining system manager memory when it's fired
> > > up.
>
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> From: Peniel Romanelli
... snip ...
> Good to hear.  I'd like to see your PNS200.INI to see
> what I'm doing wrong.  Like I said, I can start DOS
> apps with whereis/PNS but can't open DBs in their
> native apps, or edit anything in Memo with this combo.

  Try closing most/all your sys-mgr apps, going to the
DOS prompt and launching a small .gdb file "by hand"
using PNS200.  If that does work, you've got some other
conflict you need to track down.  If that doesn't work,
it's just a PNS200 configuration problem.

      ... JLS

  PS:  If launching a db via PNS200 from the DOS prompt
doesn't work, send me your PNS200.INI file and I'll see
if I can figure out the problem.

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In a message dated 7/15/1999 11:49:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jeffj@SCOTT.NET writes:

> I'm just glad to live in a country where you can do nonsensical things and
not be persecuted for them.
>
Odd things which you are forbidden to do, on pain of persecution:

-  Drive without a seat belt.
-  Dispose of batteries the easiest way.
-  Smoke in public.
-  Build yourself a house which isn't wheelchair friendly.
-  Burn your leaves in the fall.
-  Spank your child.
-  Address a protected class in a hateful manner.
-  Pray in school.
-  {Well, you get the idea.}

Don't be too odd.

Lynn

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> > We could ask Smith&Wesson to make the case; it would go well
> > with my 6" 686+ !!  :-)
>
> As much as I love my S&W 686, I have to admit that I no longer carry it on
> duty and have transitioned to a Glock 22. I had been a devout wheelgun man
...
> round. I figure that since Mr. Gaston Glock has mastered the art of polymer
> engineering, that we should recruit him to make a replacement case.

Jeff, Sounds Ok to me; that would also go well with my Glock 17.
(We'd better cool it, this is starting to sound like the rec.guns ng!)

cheers... Russ    :-)

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Try www.onelist.com

> Does anyone on the list either maintain a server with majordomo or
> listserv
> software that would be willing to host a mailing list that consists of
> Alabama police officers. The groups is approx 100 folks with maybe 30
> messages a day. We have tried the eGroups.com route and it sucks!!! It
> mysteriously unsubscribes people and with that web based service, you
> have
> no real control of subscription options. If anyone or anyone knows =
where
> we
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Try www.mapblast.com or www.mapsonus.com

paul_stratton@email.msn.com

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Hello everyone

I hate to ask this here, but I know some people on this list where
talking about some internet sites which had maps of USA cities.

I am looking for one that has LA and NY. Just the cities will do, but
it has to be  to the street level.

TIA

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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:02:40 -0400 (EDT)

01h44m38s ago ...
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Stanley, John L. wrote:

>   Try closing most/all your sys-mgr apps, going to the
> DOS prompt and launching a small .gdb file "by hand"
> using PNS200.  If that does work, you've got some other
> conflict you need to track down.  If that doesn't work,
> it's just a PNS200 configuration problem.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Good news is: it helped to find problems in
pns200.ini.  I was using the keystuff codes that came with it, but also
using the new version of keystuff (different codes).  Bad news is: that
has nothing to do with the out-of-memory errors when using PNS from
whereis.  PNS works fine now from the command line (with or without
SysMgr apps open).  Refuses to work with whereis even with everything
else closed.  Guess it's now a hunt for conflicts with device drivers
or TSRs...   Aaargh!

BTW - open.exe won't open databases from whereis, either.  Same error.

Thanks

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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:49:28 -0500 (EST)

Andreas(and/ or anyone else who might know)

        Is it possible to print a file to an HP340(w/IRDa adapter)
        using IR.exe? What settings should I use? If I run IR with the
        TEST configuration, I get a dialog "talking with DeskJet
        340..." but I can't get a file to print out?

        TIA

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:16:37 +0100
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Hi Paul,

> I have now installed Lotus Agenda, (thanx to Paul Yarnell) and
am
> completeley freaked out! This is the Killer App that I have been waiting
> for! It is so superior to other PIMS I have used, that I am constantly
> grinning as I find new uses for it.

You are not the only one.

> > 2) I could switch to Metro for my list processing, and get
the Lotus
> clipboard functionality for DOS S/W. The Agenda manual mentions that the
> Metro clipboard s/w is included, but aparently it isn't. Anybody know what
> happened? Did they leave Metro out of later distributions?

What do you mean by "list processing"?
You have to install Metro seperately. I think the installation
program is called "minstall". Should be on the same disk where
(Agenda-)"install" resides. Btw, do you really have a manual? Do
you know how lucky you are?

> > 3) How do you smoothly integrate DOS s/w with the LX apps,
including
> cut&paste and one button launcing?

I use Metro a lot for taking quick notes (=items) without having
to call Agenda. I also use it for c&p with dos-applications, but
I found no way to c&p with built-in apps. I don't use any built
in apps except the calculator and 1-2-3 since I discovered
Agenda. Unfortunately, I cannot run Software Carousel on my
HP200lx. It would be great to instantly switch between Sysmgr
and Agenda.

Here is a tip for using the Metro-TSR: It normally needs about
64 kb of our precious RAM. But there is a shareware utility
available, called "swapmt". It reduces the needed memory to 8
kb. You will find swapmt in the Simtel-MS-DOS-archive somewhere
(sorry, I don't have an URL).

Finally, there is a Lotus Agenda Mailing List. Look for
"pimlist" at www.onelist.com and join.

Reinhard


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To my knowledge I have changed nothing relative to PNS since I installed it.
my line pns200.ini  for keystuff and lotus files is
6=c:\ks.com \&\mfr\e\e%k/        (ks.com is in my root directory)
This line appears to be exactly as I installed it.  Now my problem has only
occured in the past week week ... when I try to open a lotus file from filer
the sequence goes all the way to opening lotus but enters only the first two
characters of the file I am trying to open.
For example if I try to open the file c:\123\cards.wk1 from filer ...
the line in lotus is "Name of file to retrieve: C:\12ca"

Has anyone had this experience?  any help appreciated.
TIA
Ron

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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:33:49 -0400 (EDT)

Hello again-

While playing around with PNS200, KeyStuff etc, I found another cool XF
idea.  By default, the XF macros are limited to 16 characters.  That's
a little restrictive, but the limit ISN'T in XF - it's just the size of
the key buffer.  If you get kbuf128.sys (comes with keystuff from
SUPER), put it in C:\ and add the line:
device=3Dc:\kbuf128.sys to config.sys, you can use long macros in XF.

A couple of months back, someone asked how to open WK1 worksheets from
any directory besides the Lotus default.  It didn't work before, but
with kbuf128, it works fine.  Here's the line:
.wk1    ,t  ,$m {xbc00}/fr{Esc}{Esc}%p%c{Enter}
With this you can highlight the WK1 and hit İShift¨İEnter¨ and it'll
open in 123.  It you prefer to use İEnter¨, just change the t after the
fist comma to an f.

Later

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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:50:08 -0400 (EDT)

15m42s ago ...
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, rtatham wrote:

>  when I try to open a lotus file from filer
> the sequence goes all the way to opening lotus but enters only the =
first two
> characters of the file I am trying to open.
> For example if I try to open the file c:\123\cards.wk1 from filer ...
> the line in lotus is "Name of file to retrieve: C:\12ca"
>
> Has anyone had this experience?  any help appreciated.

Yep, just today, in fact.  Well, not the EXACT experience, but close
enough...  You need to install kbuf128.sys (comes with keystuff) and
add it as a device in config.sys  (see my last post re X-Finder).  I
don't know why it's happening to you suddenly, though.

HTH

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Use the jeteye driver from super for printing.

Al Kind wrote:
>
> Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:49:28 -0500 (EST)
>
> Andreas(and/ or anyone else who might know)
>
>         Is it possible to print a file to an HP340(w/IRDa adapter)
>         using IR.exe? What settings should I use? If I run IR with the
>         TEST configuration, I get a dialog "talking with DeskJet
>         340..." but I can't get a file to print out?
>
>         TIA
>
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Hi Jeff,

>Does anyone on the list either maintain a server with majordomo or listserv


Well, I have/am running lists on www.onelist.com, and it has worked nicely
the last year. They had teething problems about two years ago, but the last
year has been very good, nothing strange going on like lost people, spam, or
whatever. 3 line ads attached on the end. Also possible to pay USD 50 for
no-ads opption. There is a 5 MB shared file area (for mug shots!) and a
automated calendar function available, but only by web access, I think.
Maybe robot/lx could pick them up of the web.

Also, I heard about www.listbot.com when making list nr. 2, but chose to
carry on with Onelist. Another guy I corresponded with runs two cartography
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Hi friends,

does anyoue knoe if there is a TSR that allows to switch the number
keys of the LX to use the keycodes of the numerical key block of a
'normal' keyboard?

Or: does anyone know the macros for key200 for that?

GtX
daniel

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Hi friends,

I use key200 to map my blue keys to Fn-Bluekeys and the Shift-Bluekeys
to the Bluekeys.
I originally wanted to do that because of two reasons:

(1) to not switch accidentally to Work Area 1 of SC when pressing a
blue key (for example &... instead of backspace - that happens often!)
That causes in a drive not ready error when the flash card isn't
inserted, because I have the swap file of SC in A:. And sometimes I
have to hard boot then.

(2) to be able to use the '(' and ')' without pressing shift - so I can
easier use Derive. (note: I have a German palmtop, so the '(' and
')' are 'shift'-'calc' and 'shift'-'&...', din't know if it's the same
on yours.)

My problem is: SC still switches to work area 1 when I press a blue key
without Fn.
Is there any way to work around that problem? SC seems to react to
keypresses on a lower level that key200 does.

TNX
daniel

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Peniel,

> A couple of months back, someone asked how to open WK1 worksheets from
> any directory besides the Lotus default.  It didn't work before, but
> with kbuf128, it works fine.  Here's the line:
> .wk1    ,t  ,$m {xbc00}/fr{Esc}{Esc}%p%c{Enter}
> With this you can highlight the WK1 and hit İShift¨İEnter¨ and it'll
> open in 123.  It you prefer to use İEnter¨, just change the t after the
> fist comma to an f.

It opens 123, but it doesn't provide path and filename (only filename).
Using PNS200 and Keystuff along with filer, it opens properly 123 and the =
file.

I have no idea, why this does work different with xfinder.

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"Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM> wrote:

Peniel,

> A couple of months back, someone asked how to open WK1 worksheets from
> any directory besides the Lotus default.  It didn't work before, but
> with kbuf128, it works fine.  Here's the line:
> .wk1    ,t  ,$m {xbc00}/fr{Esc}{Esc}%p%c{Enter}
> With this you can highlight the WK1 and hit İShift¨İEnter¨ and it'll
> open in 123.  It you prefer to use İEnter¨, just change the t after the
> fist comma to an f.

It opens 123, but it doesn't provide path and filename (only filename).
Using PNS200 and Keystuff along with filer, it opens properly 123 and the file.

I have no idea, why this does work different with xfinder.


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Thats strange!
It works just fine for me in X-Finder (full path and file name are shown, then
the file is opened ).

In my case it shows a:\programs\database\mileage.wk1.

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Paal Rasmussen wrote:
> 1) How do you people run Agenda on the LX? I use AppMgr and MaxDos, but
> then I can't cut&paste between Agenda and mail and the built-in apps.

Lack of integration (copy/paste, import/export, alarms) and a missing
GUI for the appointment book are the main reasons for why I don't use
Agenda.

If there was "Agenda for the Palmtop" (with the above additions), it
would be an absolutely great program for me.

So to answer your question(s): I have not found any solution to your
problem either, unfortunately.

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Robert Hocking wrote:
> I feel I follow this list very closely, and do not recall you
> mentioning any "bug" that would pertain to the above problem

İ...¨

> which if I recall from his subject line, was a reply to my original
> message, and your reply to him, was that you were able to repeat his
> problem, and you said that you would try to fix it in the next release
> of PE.

That's it. Both problems have the same cause: when PE is started, asks
for a file to open (or is given a list of files to open) and there is
no file name given (or the list is empty), it still goes on and tries
to handle the file w/o a name, which leads to a crash.

> "bug", in fact if you, and all the beta testers use use PE many times
> in a day, and never "hit" this particular problem, how could you be
> aware of it?

???

I was NOT aware of it - otherwise it would have been fixed in the
released version already.

> I accidentally launched PE
> from system manger, by choosing the wrong icon, and needed to exit,

Ah, I understand. So it is not something that you want to do
regularily, but something that happened by accident.

> I only use MEMO now to send my documents to my laser printer, from my
> LX, because with PE, I am unable to adjust the left margin

Suggestion noted.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:14:27 +0100
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Hi all,

Is there any mail-reader for reading the HPLX-Archives (the monthly logs).
Usually I used READMAIL, but the decompressed archives are to big to be
displayed completely. Beside that, it's sometimes a problem for me, that
font-size is fixed and with use of the palmtop-zoom-function of course
there's no line-wrapping.

Regards, Axel

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Ed Morgan wrote:
> would mention I have tried and tried, and keep having a problem
> that a scratch file cannot be opened.

Most probably, it is a memory problem. PGP needs LOTS of memory. If it
cannot be run due to lack of memory, it will not create a result (the
file named SCRATCH) and PE will complain in the way you mention above.

You might want to temporarily comment out some TSRs to find out if
memory is the issue (which I assume it is).

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Al Kind wrote:
> Is it possible to print a file to an HP340(w/IRDa adapter)
> using IR.exe? What settings should I use? If I run IR with the
> TEST configuration, I get a dialog "talking with DeskJet
> 340..." but I can't get a file to print out?

That should be possible using the IrDA driver provided by HP.

Using IR.EXE, you could do that by typing in the text you want to have
printed, but I guess this is not what you wanted :-)

Actually, I added an option to IR.EXE (for testing purposes) that sends
a file across the IR connection. I don't remember if that is already in
the published release or not. If it is, then you would need

Mode=6

in IR.CFG and the command line would need a file name.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> (1) to not switch accidentally to Work Area 1 of SC when pressing a
> blue key (for example &... instead of backspace - that happens often!)

If anybody finds a solution for that, I am VERY much intererested too!

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Hello HPLX-L,

The Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research has bought fifteen
HP200LX. Now, the problem is that our people working in the field, are working with our
DOS programs and ram or flash cards, and have to walk around and find the next tree.
After three minutes, even when the program is waiting for the next input, the HP changes
to the sleep mode. Sometimes, this process destroys the currently opened file! Now, we
woud like to know, how we can turn off the sleeping mode or how we can set the time to
e.g. one day.

Many thanks
Fluppi

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    e-mail:  sutter@wsl.ch
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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:39:20 GMT
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Hi friends,

sorry for that off topic question, but - it's my first one, I think!
;-)

Is there any way to find out (on a internet-connected linux machine)
the _host_ someone with a known username works on at the moment
(somewhere on another internet-connected machine)?

Or is there a way to call 'talk' even if I don't know the hostname of
the machine the person I want to talk to works on?

TNX
daniel

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Hi friends,

> The Modem and IR ports both have a "14,400 BPS limitation".  This is due
> to the 16450 type UART (serial control chip) built into the Hornet chip
> in the LX.  The Uart can be set for faster speeds, but you risk dropping
> characters.  The only way to get a reliable high speed (>14,400 BPS)
> connection is with a PCMCIA modem that has a 16550A type UART built in.

I have no problems printing with 115.200 bps via the serial port with
my double speed machine.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Fluppi,

> The Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research has=
 bought fifteen
> HP200LX. Now, the problem is that our people working in the field, are =
working with our
> DOS programs and ram or flash cards, and have to walk around and find t=
he next tree.
> After three minutes, even when the program is waiting for the next inpu=
t, the HP changes
> to the sleep mode. Sometimes, this process destroys the currently opene=
d file! Now, we
> woud like to know, how we can turn off the sleeping mode or how we can =
set the time to
> e.g. one day.

Auf www.palmtop.net/super.html gibt es ein Programm namens "LXPRO" von
Stefan Peichl. Das bietet die M=F6glichkeit, diverse Einstellungen der
Palmtop-Hardware manuell zu ver=E4ndern, unter anderem auch den sleep
timer.

Genauere Beschreibung ist im ZIP-file.

GTX
daniel

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A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> The profit margin from a 200LX is huge, not small. They make
> on each 200LX sold many many times what they make on each
> WinCE sold

You are right.  I was really talking about many years ago when
I bought my 200LX.  HP has not made a dime off me since then.

> a 486 with say 50MB memory running
> for 10-15 hours on a pair of AA batteries, and able to run the
> most uptodate operating systems has a HUGE selling appeal!

For that 486 to be able to run the most uptodate OS and
applications (Win98SE & Office 2000), it would have to run at
about 400 MHz.  And then I doubt it would get 10-15 hours of a
pair of AA batteries.  ;-)

> obstacles:
> the frame of mind of HP Singapore - we don't have the
> brains to do it, and it is easier to do the "safe" thing

Yes ... unfortunately.

> With WinCE you can easily slap together something and sell
> it, then work on the sequel, sell it, work on a sequel, sell
> it... (we saw exactly that happening!)

:-(


Stan

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Paal,

> Hello all.
> I have now installed Lotus Agenda, (thanx to Paul Yarnell) and am
> completeley freaked out! This is the Killer App that I have been =
waiting
> for! It is so superior to other PIMS I have used, that I am constantly
> grinning as I find new uses for it.
> OK. I know not all of you have taken to it, and that you all have your
> excuses, but have you guys actually given it a fair hearing?
> 'Love to hear from some power Agenda users out there!

1) You might want to join the PIMLIST@ONELIST.COM e-mail list on Agenda
topics. I think you can sign up via www.onelist.com.

2) I've played with agenda but stopped as it lacks GUI and easy
scheduling of appointments. Andreas Garzotto has developed something in
between AppMgr and Agenda - the PE/PIM combo availlable at
www.dasoft.com.
Give it a try before you dig deeper into Agenda as it takes much less
space and has better Cut+Paste possibilities.

3) For Cut+Paste look into CLIPVUE at the S.U.P.E.R site.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > (1) to not switch accidentally to Work Area 1 of SC when pressing a
> > blue key (for example &... instead of backspace - that happens often!)
>
> If anybody finds a solution for that, I am VERY much intererested too!


My pet peeve is missing the up-arrow key while online with DataCom,
and hitting F10 (disconnect) instead!  :(

Ted

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John J Vanderstel (j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM) wrote:
> >...Where it
> >could be sped up is by implementing the CPU emulation in assembler.
> This
> >is a mammoth task which I've completed about 75% of (of the typing at
> >least) for the Hitachi SH3 CPU (currently about 7000 lines of RISC
> >assembler). The revenue I receive from XTCE at the moment does not
> >justify completing this.
>
> >...I was going to port it to the
> >Psion 5 now that they've made the SDK freely available, but once
> again,
> >the rewards are too small and the work is too big.
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that current sales
> figures for the DOS emulator are very much related to how fast it
> currently runs DOS programs in real world situations.

The current sales figures do not appear to be related to speed at all,
but rather to features and compatibility. These areas are where I'm
spending my time. Very few Psion owners appear to be interested in DOS
emulation. Historically Psion users are anti-Microsoft and don't really
like or want DOS or Windows (a gross generalisation of course). This
doesn't make it a very attractive market. Especially considering the
less than fantastic sales I'm getting on Windows CE, even with it's
faster machines and users which are more comfortable with PCs and DOS.

> IMHO if writing the CPU emulation in assembler or just porting it to
> the Psion 5 would make it faster overall in real world use than a
> double
> speed HP200LX, then I would expect the resulting sales of your DOS
> emulator to increase significantly, making the rewards much greater.
>

Unfortunately, I don't believe it's theoretically possible to get a
Psion 5 to emulate a HP200LX at anything close to full speed. A
well-optimised C/C++ CPU emulation (as I believe mine is), takes on
average about 50 RISC instructions to emulate 1 x86 instruction (this
includes address decoding, status flag manipulation and everything else
required to emulate an instruction). Hand-coding this in RISC assembler
can get it down to an average of about 30 RISC instructions. RISC
processors typically execute one instruction per clock cycle (whereas
the 80186 takes quite a few clock cycles to execute an instruction).
Even if the CPU emulation was hand-coded in RISC assembler it would
still not be possible to execute x86 instructions in the same no. of
clock cycles as a real 80186 processor. It's more likely to be able to
execute an x86 instruction in 3-4x the no. of clock cycles. With a C/C++
CPU emulation this figure is more like 6-7x the no. of clock cycles. The
fastest Psion processor runs at 36Mhz (the new Psion 5mx). This would
give it a maximum speed of less than a single speed HP200LX. If speed is
the criteria then there is no point even staring a Psion 5 port of the
emulator.

As far as completing the CPU emulation to RISC assembler on Windows CE
goes, I'd like to finish it at some point (I didn't type 7000 lines of
RISC assembler just to throw it away). I believe that this would result
in a fast machine like the HP680 easily exceeding the speed of a
double-speed HP200LX. I have a HP680 on loan at present (I'm going to
buy one tomorrow). Preliminary tests that I've done on it leave me very
impressed. In raw CPU power it appears equivalent to a 50-60Mhz Pentium.
That's a LOT faster than a 16Mhz 80186. As far as emulating a 80186
goes, it appears to be roughly equivalent to a 16Mhz 80186 in the tests
I have done so far with the C/C++ CPU emulation. It will be even faster
when the CPU emulation is finished being rewritten.

> However, would that increase the speed of screen refreshes, as well?
> I've seen posts on this list claiming that screen refreshes are also
> too
> slow. In real world use, a slow screen refresh rate could negate any
> improvement in CPU emulation speed.
>

Improving the CPU emulation would not affect the screen refresh much.
The screen refresh does however create the ILLUSION of speed (or lack of
it). I will continue doing everything I can to make the refreshes as
quick as they can be. There is however an inherent limitation which will
mean that text modes emulated with bitmapped graphics are unlikely ever
to approach the speed of real text modes. In fact this situation gets
worse with every new CE machine they release. In a machine with a real
text mode (like the HP200LX), each character on the screen is
represented by 2 bytes. With an 80x25 display, this adds up to 4000
bytes for the entire display. With the original greyscale CE displays,
each pixel was represented by 2 bits, resulting in each text character
being represented by 16 bytes (8 pixels * 2 bits * 8 lines of pixels).
Already there's 8 times as much data to move around when updating or
scrolling the display. This gets worse: the later greyscale displays
used 4 bits per pixel (32 bytes per character), the first colour
displays used 1 byte per pixel (64 bytes per character), culminating in
the latest colour displays which use 2 bytes per pixel (128 bytes per
character). If the display is 640x480 instead of 640x200 as some of the
newer models are, you can double this figure again. You can see from
this that a colour display uses 32-128 times as much data per character
as the HP200LX's text mode. All of this is in addition to the 2 bytes
per character that must still be written to the emulated CGA text
buffer.

> I'm very interested in everything you have to say about the future of
> your DOS emulator. I'm truly looking forward to seeing a version that
> actually does run DOS software faster in all respects than a double
> speed HP200LX in real world use.

DOS is a diminishing market. I hope to reach a stage soon where I can
say XTCE is finished, with all features implemented, all bugs removed
and as fast performance as I'm personally able to get out of it. I'd
like to move onto developing something a bit more exciting. I will
however leave a powerful API exposed for anybody who wants to add things
that they'd like to it...

Any comments can either be sent to this list (include the word
'emulator', 'XTCE' or 'XT-CE' somewhere in the message, I don't recieve
mail from this list, I only do searches on it based on those keywords),
or to one of the public newsgroups related to palmtops or Windows CE
(also include one of the keywords in the message for the same reasons),
or directly to me at: xtce@xt-ce.com

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:34:47 -0400
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Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:07:04 -0400 (EDT)

05h16m27s ago ...
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> > .wk1    ,t  ,$m {xbc00}/fr{Esc}{Esc}%p%c{Enter}
>
> It opens 123, but it doesn't provide path and filename (only filename).
> Using PNS200 and Keystuff along with filer, it opens properly 123 and
> the file.
>
> I have no idea, why this does work different with xfinder.

Very Strange.  It provides the complete path on my palmtop, and also on
Quinton's.  Did you comment out or remove the .wk1 line that came with
finder.env?  The original line does exactly what you describe (filename
only).  Try removing the original line and substituting the new one, or
try what I used to test this:

.wk1    ,f  ,$m {xbc00}/fr%x{Enter}
        ,t  ,$m {xbc00}/fr{Esc}{Esc}%p%c{Enter}

The top line is the original with the t changed to f  -  the second is
the modified line to feed 123 the full path.  Hitting İEnter¨ sends
only the filename (works in the Lotus default directory).  Hitting
İShift¨İEnter¨ will open a .wk1 anywhere.

Regards,

-Peniel
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Peniel et al:

Thanks for the pointers for using PNS with X-Finder!!
I _never_ would have thought of that, it works great.
Thanks for finding these capabilities and letting us
know about them. I may have missed this,but, is there
any way to re-order the icons in the main window?

TIA

Paul

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Paul:

The Metro files are on the Agenda disks, you call minstal.bat
(check spelling) from the install disk and need the printer1
disk for the rest of the files. I just installed everything on my
desktop and zipped and transferred the files to their final resting
place.

HTH,

Paul(too :¬}} )

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I have no problems printing with 115.200 bps via the serial port with
> my double speed machine.

Sending is not the problem (other than I doubt the real transfer rate
is that high), only receiving is a problem.

Andreas

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> (2) to be able to use the '(' and ')' without pressing shift - so I can
> easier use Derive. (note: I have a German palmtop, so the '(' and
> ')' are 'shift'-'calc' and 'shift'-'&...', din't know if it's the same
> on yours.)


I use EXKEY (super???) to avoid that problem.  Altho, I'm not sure I
have it setup correctly.

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** Reply to note from Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> 07/16/99  6:19pm +0100


> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > I have no problems printing with 115.200 bps via the serial port with
> > my double speed machine.
>
> Sending is not the problem (other than I doubt the real transfer rate
> is that high), only receiving is a problem.
>

Why would he have a problem at 115 baud? That's really slow.

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Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:41 -0400 (EDT)

03h32m05s ago ...
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Paul Yarnell wrote:

<snip>...
> I may have missed this,but, is there
> any way to re-order the icons in the main window?

Hi Paul & gang-

There are a couple of ways.  The default sort is alpha, so you COULD
give all your .xf? files and associated icons bogus names to fake it.
That's a pain in the tuchis...  What I do is to set the sort order to
reverse date.  Then hit the + key to bring up the Attribute/Time/Date
window, and change the date/time stamp.  Also a bit of a pain, but
better than the alternative.  Also with the sort set this way, the
newest additions are always added at the end, instead of any old place.

HTH

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Online legal research.  Accessible via 800 number or local nets.  They used
to have DOS versions of their access software (still might) ...


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Subject:        Re: Westlaw on HP200lx

On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> Are any attorneys or support staff out there accessing Westlaw using
> the 200lx??  Care to share your secrets?

Okay, what's Westlaw... some kind of database?

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Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:04:43 -0500 (EST)

15h38m37s ago ...
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> Use the jeteye driver from super for printing.
> ...

   I tried that first, but no success :-( . I tried printig from MEMO &
   Vern Berg's LIST, but LX just locked up? I had success w/ the HPLX
   IrDA driver by Nicholas Chan (SUPER: IRDA07.zip), but that seems to
   print only from the "built-in" apps.

   Should the JetEye driver allow printing from built-ins & DOS? guess
   I need to play w/ it some more.

   Will also try Andreas' mysterious MODE 6


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Paul,

I just want to give you another tip concerning installation of
Metro. Make sure to install the screen driver called
"clribm.sdr". I think it is not installed by default, but
without it I had problems calling Metro within Appmgr (and other
graphic screen mode applications).

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> sorry for that off topic question, but - it's my first one, I think!
> ;-)
>
> Is there any way to find out (on a internet-connected linux machine)
> the _host_ someone with a known username works on at the moment
> (somewhere on another internet-connected machine)?

The only unique identifier is the username AND machine name.  For
instance, my username on my machine at home is "david".  There's gotta
be thousands of machines on the internet with a user named "david".  So
even if there were some technological way of asking every single server
on the internet if they had a "david" (thank God there isn't), how would
your machine know which of the thousands of davids you're looking for?

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Subject:      FLUFF: Fate Of HP

   I would urge anyone who can, to get and read a copy of  Vol. 1,Number
3, the July issue of "Linux Magazine". This is the new magazine, not the
"Linux Journal" .
   The article of interest is titled "Puffin Dreams,HP's Open Source
Solutions Operation". This is an interview by by Lee Gomes, who covers
Technology for the Wall Street Journal and Wayne Caccamo, directore of
HP's Open Source Solutions Operation (OSSO). Some of this ground has also
been covered in the most recent  issue of HP's own in house magazine
announcing the creation of the OSSO and their dedication to the "brave
new frontier", but this interview
gives a fascinating insight into some of the maneuvering going on at HP
that have impacted major decision making and the new coporate directions
being contemplated.
   The Puffins referred to in the article title are Christopher Beard and
Alex DeVries both of Ottawa,Canada, founders of the Puffin Group. They
are engaged in, and now are receiving support from HP in porting Linux to
the HP PA-RISC processor;the last major current processor not supported
by Linux. (It's only natural that they would choose an arctic avian for
their 'totem' since Tux, the Penguin, is emblematic of Linux.)
   The article provides a mixed bag of motivations for HP's involvement
in this endeavor. They may seem contradictory; such as seeing this as a
way to support their own HP-UX flavor of Unix. Also, some of what Caccamo
says may ring falsely in the ears of HPLX fans about " a new spirit of
risk taking at. . . (HP). . .which is trying to re-invent itself in order
to re-ignite the growth it was famous for in the early and mid l990's."
Although, It is important to note that Caccamo is, while "technically
savvy", on the business side of the decision-making process. The decision
making process  up until recently was characterized as endless debates in
countless committee meetings.
   It is also significant  that the question of creating an in-house port
of Linux to the Precision Architecture-RISC processor had already been
under discussion for some time
with no conclusion. When Caccamo found the Puffin Group already engaged
in this project he saw and acted quickly on the opportunity without ANY
GREAT COST TO HP IN MONEY OR RESOURCES.
   My final take on all this is that while there are some hopeful signs
at HP, they are still tiny, and overall, the patient appears moribund and
slipping gently toward the twilight. On the whole HP appears to suffer
great managerial confusion and has a great deal of dead wood to clean out
in any attempt at re-organization.
   It is salutory to think back on the events over the past ten years or
so at DEC, at one time one of the world's largest hi-tech companies. When
the bean-counters took over, we were treated to the unheard of sight of
letting a legendary CEO go followed by endless restless shuffling and
're-inventing'. . .to only culminate in their purchase by COMPAQ.
   This 'path' seems open to HP. Our beloved LX series is only an early
casualty.
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Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:36:08 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

Still trying to get the the built-in apps to run from whereis.  Tried
using PNS (using keystuff) - Out-of-Memory error.  Same thing when
trying open.exe to open DBs in their native apps.  Ditto for trying to
open text files in Memo.  PNS works fine except with whereis.  Same
with open.exe.  The Out-of-Memory error occurs even with all apps
except whereis closed.  There are no problems launching DOS apps thru
whereis.

Also tried commenting out TSRs in autoexec.bat and rebooting.  No luck.
Haven't tried the device drivers.  There are only 3: Macks double-speed
driver & TREMM, and kbuf128.  It can't be kbuf because it was happening
before I installed it.  8-(

Any ideas??

TIA

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** Reply to note from Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> 07/16/99  2:36pm -0400


> Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:04:43 -0500 (EST)
>
> 15h38m37s ago ...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Patrick West wrote:
>
> > Use the jeteye driver from super for printing.
> > ...
>
>    I tried that first, but no success :-( . I tried printig from MEMO &
>    Vern Berg's LIST, but LX just locked up? I had success w/ the HPLX
>    IrDA driver by Nicholas Chan (SUPER: IRDA07.zip), but that seems to
>    print only from the "built-in" apps.
>
>    Should the JetEye driver allow printing from built-ins & DOS? guess
>    I need to play w/ it some more.
>
>    Will also try Andreas' mysterious MODE 6

The jeteye only allows printing from dos you need to use the others for the
built-in apps.

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They've discontinued distribution of the DOS software and are terminating
support on December 31.  The rep indicated it was because they are a
fully Y2K-compliant service and DOS isn't so they won't touch it.

I've checked with some law librarians and they're trying to dig up an old
copy of the DOS software.  Can't get any indication at this point whether
it would even work with the palmtop.

If that route doesn't work, I may finally have a reason to look into
WWW/LX.

Larry Zimmerman

On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:08:33 -0500 KJH <kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM> writes:
>Online legal research.  Accessible via 800 number or local nets.  They
>used to have DOS versions of their access software (still might) ...


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Hello All,

I am starting to play around with making a Web page and I was wondering if
anyone out there has made up an HTML reference that they could share.  I
would like to use the HP200 as a reference while developing the pages.

Plain text, or a database....either way, it would be great !

Thanks in advance,
Jon

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In a message dated 7/16/99 4:18:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zimm4@JUNO.COM
writes:

> I've checked with some law librarians and they're trying to dig up an old
>  copy of the DOS software.  Can't get any indication at this point whether
>  it would even work with the palmtop.

You'll need something like version 3 or 4.  It's been awhile since I used WL,
but I used to log on with the 100LX, obviously for very tightly focused
research <g>.  I find it simply incredible that access to text-based research
databases is disappearing, as if text were no longer "the product."  However,
you can always strip a file of HTML tags.

-roger-

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I use the jeteye drivers only in a true dos session and
never with the other driver loaded. I remove the rem on the
line
device=a:\print\jet\irjeyeye.sys
in my flashcard's config.sys then reboot.

I then run irdos.bat

===irdos.bat
d:\bin\serctl /i
d:\dos\mode lpt1:=com1:
====

Then I can print from DOS.

Al Kind wrote:
>
> Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:04:43 -0500 (EST)
>
> 15h38m37s ago ...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Patrick West wrote:
>
> > Use the jeteye driver from super for printing.
> > ...
>
>    I tried that first, but no success :-( . I tried printig from MEMO &
>    Vern Berg's LIST, but LX just locked up? I had success w/ the HPLX
>    IrDA driver by Nicholas Chan (SUPER: IRDA07.zip), but that seems to
>    print only from the "built-in" apps.
>
>    Should the JetEye driver allow printing from built-ins & DOS? guess
>    I need to play w/ it some more.
>
>    Will also try Andreas' mysterious MODE 6
>
>    THANKS!
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:36:08 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

Still trying to get the the built-in apps to run from whereis.  Tried
using PNS (using keystuff) - Out-of-Memory error.  Same thing when
trying open.exe to open DBs in their native apps.  Ditto for trying to
open text files in Memo.  PNS works fine except with whereis.  Same
with open.exe.  The Out-of-Memory error occurs even with all apps
except whereis closed.  There are no problems launching DOS apps thru
whereis.

Also tried commenting out TSRs in autoexec.bat and rebooting.  No luck.
Haven't tried the device drivers.  There are only 3: Macks double-speed
driver & TREMM, and kbuf128.  It can't be kbuf because it was happening
before I installed it.  8-(

Any ideas??


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Try using the full path in WhereIs it works for me. (:-¨

example:

a:\bin\run %
The above is what I used to run an .exm program

a:\bin\open %
The above is what I used to run a built-in App (database, Phone, NoteTaker).


Q: What would i put in WhereIs to use Memo to read/open a file?


BTW: Here is what my config.sys looks like:

files=20
buffers=10
SHELL=D:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /P D:\DOS
Stacks=9,256
lastdrive=e
device=a:\tremm.exe
device=c:\kbuf128.sys
device=c:\spd31.sys
install c:\bin\lxpro.com
install a:\killmsg.com


Here is what my autoexec.bat looks like:

@echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;c:\bin;d:\bin;d:\dos;a:\;a:\bin;a:\pe;a:\_dat;c:\_dat
path c:\postlx;a:\jorj;d:\;c:\sc;a:\utl;a:\hv;a:\document;a:\programs
c:
a:\bin\lxstat N d c 21
c:\dspeed
d:\dos\assign e:=a:
c:\quick\quick.com /s
c:\bin\maxdos -l -e -wc:\temp
a:\pe\nofiddle.com
a:\exkey -fc:\_dat\exkey.ini
set lxtcp.cfg=c:\_dat\lxtcp.cfg
set wattcp.cfg=c:\_dat\wattcp.cfg
set chatscr=c:\_dat\chatsrc
set jorj.dat=a:\jorj\jorj.dat
a:\moreexm
SET PATH=%PATH%;c:\dochtml
set temp=c:\trash
A:\UTL\BCCTSR.COM
100


HTH




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>I am starting to play around with making a Web
page and I was wondering if anyone out there
has made up an HTML reference that they could
share.

Write to me at hobchi@Hotmail.com and I'll send
you what I have.

yore pal al......................................

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I came across this deal by accident, 32 Meg memory for
OmniBook 800 for $29.95 - only one in stock...

Good luck,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

http://www.compusanet.com/clearance/product_list.asp?arg%5Fcount=1&cat%5Fid=
MEMORY&instring1=&instring2=&AccumProdIDs=&cat%5Fdescription=Clearance%2FDem
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From: Etienne Lemaire <STELEM@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: Modem review page


>Possibly this:
>poweconsumption of various PCMCIA modems:
>http://www.cewindows.net/pccrdpwr.htm
>
>It's an old note already: HTH
>Etienne Lemaire
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
>
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>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Etienne Lemaire <STELEM@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: Modem review page


>Possibly this:
>poweconsumption of various PCMCIA modems:
>http://www.cewindows.net/pccrdpwr.htm
>
>It's an old note already: HTH
>Etienne Lemaire
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
>
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>
>It so happen that I am from Haiti.
My wife maiden name is Margarette Lemaire.
Does that ring a bell?
Are you from Quisqueya or Boyo

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:30:22 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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For anyone looking for free email, pop.mail.yahoo.com works with LXPOP &
ccLXPOP.  It's a nice way to seperate mailing lists from personal email.
The drawbacks are that a dialup connection isn't included and there is no
smtp.mail.yahoo.com (outgoing).

I use ccLXPOP/ccMAIL for personal mail & LXPOP/PNR for lists & news servers.

Don.

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Reply to smoore@effectnet.com


I'm sorry. I messed up the e-mail address on my last post.
Anyways this is the correct e-mail address;

I've messed this up a couple of times.  I purchased a 40 meg
SanDisk PCMCIA card from a Scott Moore who works at Intel in
Beaverton, Oregon and lives nearby in Hillsboro Oregon.

At that time I spoke with about telling some others as he
had a number of cards he had obtained in an internal auction
at Intel.  He assumed I meant a little LOCAL user's group.
He was thus somewhat spooked at the number of replies and
then at getting them from all over the world.

I said I'd post again saying he'd like to sell only to
people in the USA.  However I posted the wrong e-mail
address. He had just changed ISPs and they had set up some
extra e-mail addresses for him.  They never got these to
work properly.  it was one of these addresses that I posted.

so the correct address is  smoore@effectnet.com

He writes:
> I actualy have about (5) 40 meg cards as well as about (12) 20 meg cards
> for sale! The 20 megs go for $40.00 and the 40megs go for $75.00. If you
> can post my email address for only the U.S. especially Oregon and
> Wahsington I would really appreciate it!

Sorry for all the confusion. Again other that having
purchased a card from him I don't know anything about him.
I drove to his home (I live in Portland,or.) and picked it
up. Seems to work fine.


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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:07:09 +0100
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John Musielewicz wrote:
> > Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > > I have no problems printing with 115.200 bps via the serial port with
> > > my double speed machine.
> >
> > Sending is not the problem (other than I doubt the real transfer rate
> > is that high), only receiving is a problem.
> >
>
> Why would he have a problem at 115 baud? That's really slow.

115200 baud was meant, I assume, not 115.2.

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:07:11 +0100
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Shaun Gilbert wrote:
> When opening PIM from PE (Ctrl-Enter) while having examples.pim open I
> can move between all views but PIM is blank, there are no appointments
> etc showing.

Make sure the paths specified in PE.CFG and PIM.CFG correspond.

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:20:34 +0200
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Hi!

Now I see how You connected Your HP. But I was trying another aproach.
I have a desktop PC connected to a LAN and would like to connect my hp
to this machine and use our LAN via the desktops COM1.

Have You tried something like this? You mentioned some other programs
for sharing a Internet connection. Was there any that did what I whant
it to do? (i.e WinGate and WinProxy and WinRoute)

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:34:03 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Item from Thursday's Herald Tribune published in Frankfurt:

"Hunt for NATO Chief Moves Into New Phase" - and it talks
about the outgoing head of the UK Liberal Democrats, MP Paddy
Ashdown's chances of becoming the next new NATO
Secretary-General.

How relevant to HP 200LX? I believe MP Ashdown was the same MP
who also uses a HP200LX.

Hope he does well!

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:34:13 -0700
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Robert,

> I feel I follow this list very closely, and do not recall you
> mentioning any "bug" that would pertain to the above problem I was
> experencing, unless I missed that post.  I do recall a few days ago,
> you replying to another user reporting a problem he was having with
> PE, but I feel that problem was completely unreleated to any such
> problems I was having.

You just missed the messages: Here they are:

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:45:31 +0100
From: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: PE 2.2
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

Ed Padin wrote:
> I've noticed PE 2.2 lock ups also. If I run pe with the '@' paramter but
> have no srclist file it locks me up

Oops. Seems to be a bug. I can reproduce it. Will fix it.

Thanks for reporting that!

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:11:57 -0400
From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: PE 2.2
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto İmailto:garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 4:46 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ PE 2.2
>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> > I've noticed PE 2.2 lock ups also. If I run pe with the '@'
> paramter but
> > have no srclist file it locks me up

>
> Oops. Seems to be a bug. I can reproduce it. Will fix it.

Really? kewl. I've never been the first one to find and report
a bug before.

>
> Thanks for reporting that!
>
> Andreas
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Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> posted on 12 Jul 1999:

> Getting 40 replies from a list of hundreds is a good response and hardly
> deafening silence, which I'm sure you could confirm by talking to
> someone who does that sort of thing professionally (which I do not).

You interpret the non-responses as having responded in favor,
and I do not know that to be a fact (I am sure you do not
either). I think rather that the interested parties mobilized
themselves to reply because it is an important issue for
them! Those who don't care, don't have a real good reason to
bother replying.

> JFTR, I didn't reply to the survey because it seemed as if your
> company's mind was made up already.  I can understand that but I didn't
> want you to misunderstand silence on my part - and maybe others.

Let me explain that when we decided to not do an HV sequel it
was for purely technical reasons. It is not because of the
color of the eyes, or money, or what have you. Please accept
that it is because of technical reasons only. (I guess we do
not how to make a 80186 behave like a 30386!)

So it is not some marketing decision we made up in our mind as
you seem to present it.

With all the flak we received for making our position known,
I thought that perhaps there are more technical brains in the
community as a whole than we have. I suggested the browser
development. I suggested that perhaps a survey of what people
really wanted was in order. Unfortunately, this turned into
an HV-fest, and HV survey, an HV vote. I suppose it is really
hard for people to hear what they do not want to hear, but we
really do not know how to make HV better than what it is now.

So far, it seems that none of the technical brains here have
deemed it necessary or possible or worthwhile or ? to make a
sequel a reality. Ask yourself why that is.

Let me add some more information. Based on discussions with
Andreas in recent days, I think we can easily support any
community effort in several ways. For example, we can provide
from the experience we have with HV, although it may be
limited compared to a prospective "other" browser. We will
definitely support the ABI, as Rod has suggested some time
ago. Lastly, if I understand the sequel project correctly, it
will be public and have public APIs, and so we will include
support for it in WWW.EXE.

I hope this deepens the understanding of our true position in
this matter.

   Avi Meshar
   D&A Software
   http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:24:48 +0200
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Paul,

> Thanks for the pointers for using PNS with X-Finder!!
> I _never_ would have thought of that, it works great.
> Thanks for finding these capabilities and letting us
> know about them.

For me PNS200 is one of the great programs which makes live easy and
adds a lot of use to the applications.

I have setup POST/LX to use PNS200

   post.cfg

   İSYSTEM¨
   Editor=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com "pe.exe $f $o"
   PNS=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com c:\bin\pns200.exe
   GrabLink=3DHV.HOT
   .....

I also use maxdos to have maximum memory available for the selected
applications.

post.bat

   @echo off
   c:\bin\maxdos.com -l -e34
   c:
   cd \www
   @www -d "!post"
   cd \
   c:\bin\maxdos.com -r


This allows me from POST/LX:

   Ctrl-M:                              (open attachments)
      PNS200 allows me now to select:
         View MS Word 97 Documents
         Unzip
         Edit
         View jpeg, pcx ...
         list
         ...
         .. no end in sight

PE setup with PIM is the default editor. APPs, Todos, Phone, etc. are
available at keystroke. Cut & Paste are obvious. *NO* interim storage of
data is required.

With POST/LX I send and receive SMS messages through my GSM phone.

POST/LX along with PNS200 became the Communication Center or with
other words ../LX is an attractive suite, where I do all my
communication all day, all week, business and private.

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:23:44 -0400
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Qman
A while back you had sent me a copy of defrag. Last night I had a hard drive
crash and lost everything. Do you still have this utility?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:37:54 -0400
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Can anyone point me in the direction to Taskbar LX? I had a hard drive crash
last night and lost everything.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:30:13 +0000
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              Kat Deutscher <katd@CWIX.COM>
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Robert Hocking wrote:
> I still have not resolved my problems with the new PE

Andreas wrote:

> As pointed out in a different message, there is a bug in
> the new version of PE: when PE is started and there is no
> file to be opened, PE starts "working" with no file, which
> is "difficult" <G>
>
> Even though I use PE at least a hundred times a day and the
> bug exists for several month now, neither me nor any of
> the beta testers ever hit it.
>
> And this leads me to the question: Why do you start PE and
> then decide to not open a file? If you don't want to edit
> anything, why to you launch PE at all?

This happened to me because I added c:\pim to the path in
autoexec.bat on the c: drive, but not the autoexec.bat on
the a: drive.  When I typed "pe @" from outside the c:\pim
directory (where pe.exe, pe.cfg, and srclist. are) the
program couldn't apparently find the files it needed when a
pccard was present and so locked up the palmtop.

After I corrected the autoexec.bat file on the pccard I
haven't had a problem.

Kat
--
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TBLX is at http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm


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From: aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: TBLX :)


> Can anyone point me in the direction to Taskbar LX? I had a hard drive
crash
> last night and lost everything.
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz
>
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>

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From:         Terry Owen <owen6511@EARTHLINK.NET>
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True enough.  But just because someone doesn't care enough to respond
to a survey doesn't mean they won't plunk down cash if they need your
porduct at some point or that the (tiny) market isn't there.

And I made no judgement on why your company doesn't want to rewrite
HV, just an observation that it seemed pointless to respond because
your position was already established.  As a programmer myself (on a
midrange platform)  I see these decisions made every day.  I never
meant to imply that your decision was only a marketing one.  I
apologize for the misunderstanding.

Terry Owen

p.s. I still think HV is a great program.


On 17 Jul 99 A Meshar wrote:

> Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> posted on 12 Jul 1999:
>
> > Getting 40 replies from a list of hundreds is a good response and hardly
> > deafening silence, which I'm sure you could confirm by talking to
> > someone who does that sort of thing professionally (which I do not).
>
> You interpret the non-responses as having responded in favor,
> and I do not know that to be a fact (I am sure you do not
> either). I think rather that the interested parties mobilized
> themselves to reply because it is an important issue for
> them! Those who don't care, don't have a real good reason to
> bother replying.
>
> > JFTR, I didn't reply to the survey because it seemed as if your
> > company's mind was made up already.  I can understand that but I didn't
> > want you to misunderstand silence on my part - and maybe others.
>

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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this games.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Limit to number of subsets

Hello

Does anyone know how many subsets are possible under the phonebook? TIA

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:28:01 -0600
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Has anyone noticed this? The HP12C calculator has been around -- I'm guessing
-- since 1984-85. That makes it about a 15 year old product! Check out this
site

  http://www.hp.com/calculators/business/

I reckon our business friends run the world -- with their old technology. New
business majors need old calculators. Not one of those calculators is of the
new technology. What gives here? Financial mathematical functions do not
change, so no need to make new calculators.

Our HP200LX is a mature product. Its needed functions need change. If change
is needed, that's what we call software. Most the necessities for needed uses
are "out there" somewhere. 16 million colors, 2 hour battery life and
SoundBlaster compatiblility is not always desireable. Avi can tweak whatever
it takes to keep us on the internet for those with that desire. What I am
saying, there is nothing new under the sun and HP acknowledges the same  in
their business line of calculators.

Perhaps some specialty ROMs, i.e., a LX with a business ROM, or CAD, or
bridge, pay for application download site -- the LX is everything to
everybody. Drop the entire line of business calculators and others except the
most desireable, replace it with the LX and specialty ROMs or downloads. LX
sales will skyrocket, prices can be reduced to $249. Displays will be cheap
with the demanded quantity. HP can reduce production line costs elsewhere by
dropping many obsolete products replaced by the LX.

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Hello

Does anyone know how to change the catagory field in the Phonebook? TIA

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Bob Meyer writes:
> Has anyone noticed this? The HP12C calculator has been around -- I'm guessing
> -- since 1984-85. That makes it about a 15 year old product! Check out this
> site
>
>   http://www.hp.com/calculators/business/
>
> I reckon our business friends run the world -- with their old technology. New
> business majors need old calculators. Not one of those calculators is of the
> new technology. What gives here? Financial mathematical functions do not
> change, so no need to make new calculators.

Techniques change. HP just isn't keeping up.

>
> Our HP200LX is a mature product. Its needed functions need change. If change
> is needed, that's what we call software. Most the necessities for needed uses
> are "out there" somewhere. 16 million colors, 2 hour battery life and
> SoundBlaster compatiblility is not always desireable. Avi can tweak whatever
> it takes to keep us on the internet for those with that desire. What I am
> saying, there is nothing new under the sun and HP acknowledges the same  in
> their business line of calculators.

Its what people want though. They want color and sound. It looks like most
buyers don't care about battery life.

>
> Perhaps some specialty ROMs, i.e., a LX with a business ROM, or CAD, or
> bridge, pay for application download site -- the LX is everything to
> everybody. Drop the entire line of business calculators and others except the
> most desireable, replace it with the LX and specialty ROMs or downloads. LX
> sales will skyrocket, prices can be reduced to $249. Displays will be cheap
> with the demanded quantity. HP can reduce production line costs elsewhere by
> dropping many obsolete products replaced by the LX.

There is no demand. How can a small mono computer compete with color, CD quality
sound, videos. Apparently people aren't interested in getting work done or
don't need to. What they need are toys that keeps track of phone numbers and
tells them when they have appointments. What HP thinks people need are walkmans
with a built-in pim. They figure people will use a REAL computer for anything
else. HP thinks people WANT to sit in a little cubical. But it has to be done
in full color so the people actually think they have a life. What would be
really great is a 200LX with a built-in two way wireless pager or wireless modem.
Now THAT would be an asset.



>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
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I found out how to do it. Just type it in and make sure a subset
is defined for sorting. Pretty nifty<g>.

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vvb

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Here is a comment from a new Psion 5mx user.
Notice he is running telix and word perfect from a cf card.




I have the 5mx for a about a week and previously had the 5. Here are
some
quick impressions. Much quicker with a clearer screen -maybe still not
perfect but an improvement. I run it with a 32meg cf card and am also
running
the xtm emulator on a section of this D drive. I have an old compuserve
Doscim on this - which I thought might be of interest to people trying
to
get mail on CIS - and telix and wordperfect. The screen is a bit
squashed. The
type is certainly very small. But they run very well, are very stable
and the xtm
emulator is acceptably fast (still not very fast) on the 5mx. I travel
alot and like
to have these options.
best
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Has anyone used Checkview? Is it any good? How does it compare to
Quicken on the LX? TIA

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Just mailed a check for my bill at Thaddeus today..
You know... I think Hal is the last man to use=20
"No postage necessary" envelopes.
I don't remember the last time I seen that on an invoice.
Thanks Hal  73
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It was recently mentioned that there were some problems with the 440MB
flashcards in the 200LX. Has this issue been resolved/understood and
what is the largest capacity card that does work?

Many thanks

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Gary Spiers wrote:

> It was recently mentioned that there were some problems with the 440MB
> flashcards in the 200LX. Has this issue been resolved/understood and
> what is the largest capacity card that does work?

It has been reported that the 200LX will directly support flash cards up
to the limit of the CHS BIOS, which is ... uh... something like 512MB?
The 440MB card works if a palmtop has the ACECARD driver loaded, so now
it's just a matter of our proficient palmtop experts creating a
specialized (and distributable, unlike ACECARD) driver for the larger
cards.

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Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:06:59 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

After a couple of days of aggravation, I finally got whereis.exm to
start the built-in apps (no more "out-of-memory")!  Tried looking for
possible TSR conflicts etc. -- nothing.  After playing around in the
"launch options" box in whereis, trying different paths for a couple
of apps, I finally noticed that I had the "exec then pause" box
checked.  (Took me two days to notice it -- DUMB!)   Removed the
check, and everything works together like a dream  8-)

Thanks to John Stanley & Qman for trying to help.  Both had several
good suggestions.

Anyhow, if you use either open.exe or pns200.exe to open DBs in their
native apps, or load docs into Memo, be sure that the "...pause" box IS
NOT checked.  Why it causes the out-of-memory error, I dunno, but it
does.  8-(

With this situation cleared up, whereis/pns200 is a great combo!

Later

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Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again-

Having spent some time playing around with PNS, using the new version
of KeyStuff (from SUPER), I noticed that the blue-key codes are
different from those in the supplied PNS200.INI file.  If you want to
use the new KS with PNS, you'll need to edit the .ini file.  You really
should give these progs a try.

Later

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>to the limit of the CHS BIOS, which is ... uh...
something like 512MB?  >The 440MB card
works if a palmtop has the ACECARD driver
loaded,

What specific ACE driver is in question?

yore pal al.........................

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Yor Pal Al wrote:

> What specific ACE driver is in question?

The ACECARD driver that Ace used to provide.  It's the same one that
people often use in the 100LX to give them access to flash cards that are
otherwise not supported.  I believe the latest version was ACECARD3.COM.

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> The 440MB card works if a palmtop has the ACECARD driver loaded, so now
> it's just a matter of our proficient palmtop experts creating a
> specialized (and distributable, unlike ACECARD) driver for the larger
> cards.

OK, I'm good to go as I have an Ace Doubleflash+ card (no longer
stacked) but more importantly it means I have that driver here
(somewhere!).

Perhaps Mark Scardinia, sysop of HPHAND on CIS and author of the
Acecard driver could be of some assistance - has anyone asked him yet?

Incidentally do you know what is the largest size card that does not =
require the driver?

GaryS

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> It has been reported that the 200LX will directly support flash cards up
> to the limit of the CHS BIOS, which is ... uh... something like 512MB?
> The 440MB card works if a palmtop has the ACECARD driver loaded, so now
> it's just a matter of our proficient palmtop experts creating a
> specialized (and distributable, unlike ACECARD) driver for the larger
> cards.

As someone who was/is interested in the 440MB model... what specifically
functionality does the ACE driver provide that the built-in FLASH card
support doesn't?

-Chris

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Does anyone know where one could find "The C Programming Language" by K&R,
preferably 1st ed in text format?

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HP many times came out with new and improved models of calculating instruments,
more power, more programming steps, "Continuous Memory", longer battery life.

Examples:
  HP25->HP25C->HP29C->HP11C->HP15C-discontinued but not deserted
  HP65-HP67->HP41C->HP41CV->HP42->discontinued and deserted? or HP48?

Funtionality has worn out. Real work is outdated, now it's time to
play--Journada! Work not allowed!

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
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I had posted the following privately to John by mistake, but this seems to be
a good point to jump back into the thread:

No quoting here.  Just a few thoughts:  It's HP.  HP has fallen behind even
with its newer color Jornada handhelds.  Just 2 wks ago, it had to lower the
MSRP of the J420 from 519.99 to 449.99, a whopping $70.  Still, it has to
offer inducements, such as a free CF card and some extra software, including
an upgraded video driver, to get people to buy.  WinCE is WinCE regardless of
what anyone thinks of it, but the competition is killing HP with better
hardware features and, in some cases, better alliances with software
partners.  These are the areas where the handhelds makers can and do
differentiate themselves.  They are coming out with newer models at a faster
rate than HP has been able to keep up with.  HP probably could have
revitalized and perpetuated the 200LX line with a similar strategy.  For
example, they could have positioned the product as a tool of preference for
engineers, doctors and scientists, students, real estate brokers, financial
consultants, etc.  Instead, they've decided to go for the high-end corporate
network connectivity market, but again, they can't keep apace with their
competition, and I think they are going to find this area too fragmented and
too limited in interest to support the platform.

-roger-

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At 09:20 PM 7/17/99 -0600, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> wrote:
>Does anyone know where one could find "The C Programming Language" by K&R,
>preferably 1st ed in text format?
>


I did an AltaVista search.  Is this it?
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/cclass/krnotes/top.html

It's in HTML format, but could be converted to ASCII.

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I read on Psion's page that they have teamed with IBM and have a
"netBook" coming out which looks like a head-to-head with the HP 800
series.

Psion's built-in apps run circles around the CE offerings and the java
capabilities open up some new doors for development.  Of course, XTM is
available to provide XT emulation.

Larry Zimmerman

On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:28:55 EDT Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> writes:
>... but the competition is killing HP with better hardware features and,

>in some cases, better alliances with software
>partners.

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      What's programs that I need in my 200Lx to be able to download all =
my e-mails from my desktop; and read its on the road?
       In my desktop use the Outlook Express (need change this program)? =

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      <DIV><FONT face=3D"arial, helvetica">&nbsp;In my desktop use the =
Outlook=20
      Express (need change this program)? </DIV>
      <P>TIA =
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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:23:26 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Re: K&R Text
Comments: To: Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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> Does anyone know where one could find "The C Programming Language" by K&R,
> preferably 1st ed in text format?
>

The book is still in print. I bought mine from WHSmtih Online but
I'm sur you'll find it at http://www.amazon.com.

Regards

Antonio



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Porto - Portugal
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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:17:14 +0900
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              ITSUMI ken-ichi <amt@ITSUMI.KEN.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: Large flashcards
Comments: To: garys@IBM.NET
In-Reply-To:  Gary Spiers's message of "Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:38:37 GMT"
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In message "Large flashcards"
    on 99/07/17, Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET> writes:
>It was recently mentioned that there were some problems with the 440MB
>flashcards in the 200LX. Has this issue been resolved/understood and
>what is the largest capacity card that does work?

There are some rumors amoung japanese LXers that over 220MB FlashATA
Disk need spacial Drivers and Manifacture have a plan to suplly such
driver.

>
>Many thanks
>
>GaryS
>
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test

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:17:55 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I was looking for the text that I could put in my LX for reference instead of
carrying toting my book. My programming is rusty these days. HTML would be
fine if available. The link

 http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/cclass/krnotes/top.html

is a set of notes the accompany the book. Thanks.

Bob Meyer wrote:

> Does anyone know where one could find "The C Programming Language" by K&R,
> preferably 1st ed in text format?
>
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Hi List,

I came a cross using the LX database application more often , very useful!!
It would very helpful for me if I would be able to have the same database as
a excel or
123 file. Is anybody who have had the same problem and know   how to do it??
Would you let me know, too??

Thanks for assistance in advance.

Michael Berrier,
my adress: mberri01 @aol.com

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:51:15 -0700
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              John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Friends/Supporters
using Filer and checking the setup program for ProCom I somehow went into a
dos mode that would not shut down using 'exit'

Tried rebooting to no avail

Removed batteries,stack card and booted up again...reinserted stack card
with machine off used filer and could no longer see my critical phone.pdb
files located on the A drive; and hitting the blue phone key gave error
message 'could not open'...Can anyone please help me on how to get:

this is a 100Lx the a drive shows only the following:
..
ccmail  ini
compusrv dcf
dowjones dcf
filer   env
genie  dcf
mci  dcf
setup  env
termder dcf

I am supposed to be working tomorrow so any help is much
appreciated...JohnCarlo

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:55:57 -0500
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              Paul_Stratton <Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Subject:      Re: LX gdb database converting to excel or lotus123
Comments: To: Mberri01@AOL.COM

There's a great program called GDBDUMP on the SUPER site at  www.palmtop.net
which converts a GDB file to a comma-delimited file. This file can be
imported to Excel, 123, and others.  Also, there's a program called GDBLOAD
which allows you to create a GDB database file from a comma-delimited file.
Read the details... There are size limitations on the palmtop.  I don't know
if those limitations are documented very well.  I've used these programs for
a long time and have been very pleased.

P.S. Check out the databases on the super site. There's one set that I
created that contains all 66 books of the King James Version of the Bible.
These were created using GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP.  You'll find MANY interesting
databases there.

paul_stratton@email.msn.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Berrier <Mberri01@AOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 8:22 AM
Subject: LX gdb database converting to excel or lotus123


> Hi List,
>
> I came a cross using the LX database application more often , very
useful!!
> It would very helpful for me if I would be able to have the same database
as
> a excel or
> 123 file. Is anybody who have had the same problem and know   how to do
it??
> Would you let me know, too??
>
> Thanks for assistance in advance.
>
> Michael Berrier,
> my adress: mberri01 @aol.com
>
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>

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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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I have successfully installed icons within Finder. However, every time I start
using Finder there are no icons present. It seems the only way to get my icons
to work is once in Finder I have to go to my Icon folder and initialize any
icon and then they all reappear. Am I doing something wrong here. My icons
have the same name as my programs (ex. app.icn for app.xfe).
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:16:59 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:46:41 -0400 (EDT)

38m44s ago ...
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I have successfully installed icons within Finder. However, every time =
I
> start using Finder there are no icons present. It seems the only way to =
get
> my icons to work is once in Finder I have to go to my Icon folder and
> initialize any icon and then they all reappear. Am I doing something =
wrong
> here. My icons have the same name as my programs (ex. app.icn for =
app.xfe).

Hi Tony-

I've never seen this...  How does the Palmtop screen come up
initially? With the generic file icon for everything or completely
blank?  The only oddity I've found about icons is that XF apparently
can only handle a maximum of 256 icons - the rest come up as the
generic file icon.  If you want to send me your finder.env file, I'll
be glad try to see if I can find a problem there.

BTW - what do you mean by "initialize any icon"?

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:19:48 EST
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Using rechargeable lithium metal batteries in the LX

Hello

I found a web page, www.tadiranbat.com, which has a 3 volt AA lithium
metal rechargeable battery. I was looking at the specs and it looks
like one cell would work in the LX and could be recharged in it, it
takes a constant recharge current. Has anyone tried one of these? It
has a very flat discharge curve and can be discharged down to 2 volts
and is charged to 3.4 volts which would give almost 1 volt discharge
compared to NiMH which has about .4. It has really good self discharge
charicteristics 85% after one year. It could also make a very good
backup battery. They are kind of pricey 20 dollars a cell but they give
500 recharges. They can be special ordered through Batteries Plus. Any
thoughts on this? TIA

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:05:18 +0300
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Subject:      ANN: Outlook 2 HPLX Appointment converter
Content-Type: text

Hello!

This version is an Outlook 2 HP-LX version 0.5.

This is mainly a bug-fix version:
- (some) multilingual support
- sorts appointments correctly
- handles multi-day appointments correctly (at last I hope!)

Address:
http://www.tuug.org/~hysky/

ol2lx-0.5.zip


Please report any bugs/suggestion to me!

/j.h.husgafvel


--
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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:44:55 +0200
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              Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU>
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    Hello all,

On the <www.winceonline.com> under the News Clip section
-don't stone me please- there is a report that a company named
Trogon <www.trogoncomputer.com> will market 2 pcsAAA
powered external (serial port) pocket modem capable of V90
(56kbps) sometime around August 1999.

It should work with WinCE, Palm, notebooks; I bet if it's Hayes
compatible it will be OK for the 200LX.

                 Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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why should we stone you?? thanks for the info will see how it works

regards, michael

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Reply-To:     davidb@netmedia.net.il
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP/LXPOP & pop.mail.yahoo.com

Donald Collins writes:
> I use ccLXPOP/ccMAIL for personal mail & LXPOP/PNR for lists & news servers.

How do you differentiate between lists and personal mail (I understand that
for news, you mean LXNNTP)?





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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:59:11 +0200
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>Write to me at hobchi@Hotmail.com and I'll send
>you what I have.


What do you have? A GDB? If yes, please send it to me too.

 TIA
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>With this situation cleared up, whereis/pns200 is a great combo!


It seems that I missed some posts. What do you do with whereis.exm?

-goe-

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Subject:      Re: LX gdb database converting to excel or lotus123
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>Also, there's a program called GDBLOAD
>which allows you to create a GDB database file from a comma-delimited file.


Isn't it so, that you only can 'import' a comma-delimited file into an
already existing GDB?

-goe-

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:26:06 -0400 (EDT)

08m20s ago ...
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> >With this situation cleared up, whereis/pns200 is a great combo!
>
> It seems that I missed some posts. What do you do with whereis.exm?

Hi Stephan-

Whereis.exm is a file finder program.  Very handy if you have a big
flash card with lots of directories, and you can't remember where a
file is...  8-)   It allows the usual DOS wildcards in the filespec,
and gives a list of matching files (full paths shown).  If you select
a file from the list, you can use a DOS program to view, edit, or
open the file.  That's where PNS comes in - it provides several
options depending on file extension, so it's possible to view graphic
files, view or edit text, even open databases in their native apps.

Both whereis and pns200 are on SUPER.

Later

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:49:32 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<It was recently mentioned that there were some problems with the 440MB
flashcards in the 200LX. Has this issue been resolved/understood and
what is the largest capacity card that does work?>>

Our tests indicate that the 280, 350, and 440 Sandisk cards don't work out
of the box with the 200LX. SanDisk confirmed this.

 Mack did some testing for us and discovered that ACECARD3.COM (a driver
written by the now defunct ACE) allows these cards to work. Fortunately, we
have enough licenses that came with the many used ACE cards we have in our
basement that we are not reselling, to service our customers for a while.
In the meantime, both Mack and Sandisk are looking at the problem.  Sandisk
was supposed to get back to me Friday, but I haven't heard from them.  I
sent them a copy of the driver for testing.  I have also contacted Mark
Scardina, who wrote or supervised the writing of ACECARD.COM.

That's the latest.

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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hello All,


Here's what I get with Filer closed:

CHATSCR -- Open Failed. No such File or Directory.

Note: CHATSCR is my Chat script.


When I do a reset and Filer is open every thing works just fine.

Hey! I had to ask. (:-¨

Any help would be appreciated!




Regards,

Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:48:54 -0400
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Subject:      Addresses from Pilot to HP?
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Any way to transfer addresses from the Pilot to the HP200?

Phil Godden

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Before I got rid of my Pilot, I used to do it regularly via my PC.
I never bothered to try a more direct link as that way worked
sufficiently well to satisfy my needs.

> Phil Godden wrote:
>
> Any way to transfer addresses from the Pilot to the HP200?
>
> Phil Godden

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Thank you for helpful replies on the subject of Agenda and Metro. I'll use
a few days to see how metro interacts with the built-in apps, and let you
know if it seems useful.
Cheers,

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Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> I've prototyped a TCP/IP stack TSR in C which was able to answer pings
> from the network in the background while I was editing in the
> foreground

Thanks for doing this kind of work, Rod.   It is way ahead of
my capabilities right now, though.


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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:12:23 +0930
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Tomas Moberg writes:
> Now I see how You connected Your HP. But I was trying another aproach.
> I have a desktop PC connected to a LAN and would like to connect my hp
> to this machine and use our LAN via the desktops COM1.

The way I do this is to run PPP over the serial line - logging into a
PPP server on the desktop PC (simple if you're running Linux - I don't
know about Win95).

Then the HP is just another node on the network (as long as the
operating system on the desktop PC knows how to route properly).

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Does anyone know where one could find "The C Programming Language" by K&R,
> preferably 1st ed in text format?

Out of curiousity, to what end is it you want the first edition?  Modern
compilers almost invariably adhere to ANSI standard, which is well laid out in
K&R second edition (something you should be able to pick up at any college
bookstore)

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:21:49 GMT
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Hi John & Andreas,

> > Why would he have a problem at 115 baud? That's really slow.
>
> 115200 baud was meant, I assume, not 115.2.

Sure. Sorry, I mixed up the . and ,

GTX daniel
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The Linuxstore (www.linuxstore.com) to start selling a PIA, Personal
Internet Appliance sometime soon for $199 running Linux, with browser,
etc. preinstalled..... No pics, or specs on size, etc., but there are
links to some press articles that are interesting...
Suresh

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:50:55 GMT
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Hi David and all,

> The only unique identifier is the username AND machine name.  For
> instance, my username on my machine at home is "david".  There's gotta
> be thousands of machines on the internet with a user named "david".  So
> even if there were some technological way of asking every single server
> on the internet if they had a "david" (thank God there isn't), how would
> your machine know which of the thousands of davids you're looking for?

Yes, but I thougt there might be something like a 'search engine' where
you can enter the username and maybe a few known parts of the hostname,
and the utility looks for all these fragments.


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:50:52 GMT
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Hi Jon,

> I am starting to play around with making a Web page and I was wondering if
> anyone out there has made up an HTML reference that they could share.  I
> would like to use the HP200 as a reference while developing the pages.
>
> Plain text, or a database....either way, it would be great !

Neither plain text nor database - it's HTML:

I found a _very_ good HTML reference on the web made by Stefan Muenz.
It's in German, maybe there is also an English version.
It's called "Selfhtml".
You can find the latest version at
http://www.teamone.de/selfaktuell

The author, Stefan Muenz, has the email address muenz@csi.com

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:50:57 GMT
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Hi Andreas,

> Sending is not the problem (other than I doubt the real transfer rate
> is that high), only receiving is a problem.

I guess the transfer rate _has_ to be that high, because my
ser-par convrter eats the data and converts it correctly,
And as the converter works with a fixed clock rate, I conclude
that the serial data stream comes with _really_ 115,200 bps.

Or am I missing something?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:55:32 -0400
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Hi, daniel.

You're missing something.  8¬)

Your statement about the serial-parallel converter working with a fixed
clock rate is absolutely correct.  And each byte of serial data that comes
into it is, in our example case, being clocked at exactly 115,200 BPS.  In
the case of one stop bit, that's ten bits of information, precisely timed.

What you're missing is that Andreas' comment said "real transfer rate."  By
"transfer rate" he's referring to actual *throughput*.  There is no
limitation to the idle time *between* bytes; that's the reason for start
and stop bits, after all: to synchronize the receiver on a per-byte basis.
When you figure transfer rate, you have to look at bytes per second, not
the timing of the bits.

The problem with unbuffered UARTs isn't on a per-bit basis.  Even an
unbuffered UART has internal space to assemble one received byte AND save
the previous one for receipt by the computer.  The problem, instead, is
that if the computer can't pick up that ready byte before the next one is
assembled and a third one starts to come in, someone's going to lose.

The reason Andreas said the "real transfer rate" would be lower but that
transmitting would be okay, is that if the LX can't keep up with 115,200
BPS, there will be gaps between the bytes.  This doesn't *hurt* anything,
as you've observed; it just slows down the actual transfer rate.  It's in
the receiving end that you start losing data.

BPS figures are sort of like hard drive burst rates, or "instantaneous peak
power," or the fact that you might be able to wind your car up to 110 MPH.
Yes, you can under certain circumstances go really fast or get a lot of
power... but if you try to do it continuously, something's got to give.
That's where the average transfer rate comes in.

I hope I've explained this clearly; I'm zipping this out quickly before
running to work!

Ciao,
Rick

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On 7/19/99 at 6:50 AM Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>Hi Andreas,
>
>> Sending is not the problem (other than I doubt the real transfer rate
>> is that high), only receiving is a problem.
>
>I guess the transfer rate _has_ to be that high, because my
>ser-par convrter eats the data and converts it correctly,
>And as the converter works with a fixed clock rate, I conclude
>that the serial data stream comes with _really_ 115,200 bps.
>
>Or am I missing something?
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
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>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> And as the converter works with a fixed clock rate, I conclude
> that the serial data stream comes with _really_ 115,200 bps.
>
> Or am I missing something?

Assume each line is a clock tick, then I can either send

---
A
n
d
r
e
a
s
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or

---
A






n

d
r












e










a












s
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Both is at the same "baud rate". The second might me closer to reality.

Andreas

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Date:         Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:20:02 -0700
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Friends,

I have all my .pdb on my 'a drive' using a DoubleFlash Ace card....I CAN
NOT GET THE CARD TO SHOW /EXPAND /OPEN??? after working in filer on the 'a
drive' side and trying to execute a setup program for ProComPlus...

The blue phone function key "cannot open file"
Have tried rebooting Cntrl,Alt,Del  ..nothing

I think the card has compressed or whatever since trying to transfer from
the c drive get error of 'disk full'...and this is impossible with the
present files that show

ANY HELP ON THIS IS MUCH APPRECIATED...JOHNCARLO

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Terry Owen <owen6511@earthlink.net> wrote on Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:40:25
+0000:

> p.s. I still think HV is a great program.

Me too! :) ...

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Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@carroll.com> wrote on 16 Jul 1999 07:13:54 -0400
(EDT):

> > a 486 with say 50MB memory running
> > for 10-15 hours on a pair of AA batteries, and able to run the
> > most uptodate operating systems has a HUGE selling appeal!
>
> For that 486 to be able to run the most uptodate OS and
> applications (Win98SE & Office 2000), it would have to run at
> about 400 MHz.  And then I doubt it would get 10-15 hours of a
> pair of AA batteries.  ;-)

I spoke of an uptodate O/S not junk like Win98 and Office 2000
- these are well, never mind ... ;-) But you are right, just
to keep up the appearance of doing something and wading
through the sea of spaghetti code it takes major cpu power. On
two AA batts you get maybe 4-7 minutes :) ???

> > With WinCE you can easily slap together something and sell
> > it, then work on the sequel, sell it, work on a sequel, sell
> > it... (we saw exactly that happening!)
>
> :-(

Indeed :-(

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Ed Morgan wrote:
> Message is the same..cannot open SCRATCH.

Is it created?

All I can say: it works if everything is configered properly. So you
need to find out what is not configured properly. If there is not
enough memory, it will not work. If there is enough memory, most likely
the above file is not created (see error messages PGP.EXE produce) or
it is not created in the directory in which PE can find it). Also, if
you tell PGP to create the file "SCRATCH", it creates "SCRATCH.PGP", so
you need to tell it to create the file named "SCRATCH." (leading dot).

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Hi Qman,

> Did you ever get this working correctly, I ID Check and all?

> If so, I'd like to here about it. (:-¨

Yes, it works great.

As per Peniel's advice, I put this line in FINDER.ENV under the Key Definition
section:

=i (tab) ,k (tab) ,a:\util\id.bat %p%c (tab)(tab)(tab) #Get info
(substituting real tabs where indicated)

id.bat is:

@echo off
dir %1
id /s %1

This way, with the cursor over a file icon, I press İshift¨İi¨ and get the size
and date from dir, plus the file type/signature from id.exe. I'm currently
looking for a substitute for id.exe to get more file information in one shot,
including size and date so I don't have to use dir.

X-Finder rocks!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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A while back someone was inquiring about registering Gilles Kohl's VR program.
has anyone found out how to contact him. I had a registered copy which I lost
in a hard drive crash last week.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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My VR.DOC says his email address is:  100114.3146@compuserve.com
<mailto:100114.3146@compuserve.com>
It says his address is:         Gilles Kohl
                                                        Hagsfelder Allee
16
                                D-76131 Karlsruhe
                                Germany


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        A while back someone was inquiring about registering Gilles
Kohl's VR program.
        has anyone found out how to contact him. I had a registered copy
which I lost
        in a hard drive crash last week.
        TIA
        Tony Guzewicz

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Thanks Steve

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:42:54 -1000
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I'm trying to install CPACK200 on my desktop machine, an  IBM Aptiva
running Win98. I beleive that my modem is on COM1, and the serial port
on the back is COM2. When I try to configure CPACK200 on the Aptiva  to
use COM2 I get the following  error message -
    Cannot open communications port:
    Communications port defaulted to COM1

Can someone point me in the right direction to resolve this?

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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You could do this by syncronizing the Palm with Outlook on the desktop or
notebook, then synchronizing between Outlook and the 200LX.  Search on Mitch
Hamm's Super Site http://www.palmtop.net under the keywords "outlook" and
"palmpilot" for copyrighted freeware utilities.  I do not know of any direct
communications link between Palm organizers and the 200LX.

-roger-

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** Reply to note from A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> 07/19/99 06:04am -0700


> > > a 486 with say 50MB memory running
> > > for 10-15 hours on a pair of AA batteries, and able to run the
> > > most uptodate operating systems has a HUGE selling appeal!
> >
> > For that 486 to be able to run the most uptodate OS and
> > applications (Win98SE & Office 2000), it would have to run at
> > about 400 MHz.  And then I doubt it would get 10-15 hours of a
> > pair of AA batteries.  ;-)
>
> I spoke of an uptodate O/S not junk like Win98 and Office 2000
> - these are well, never mind ... ;-) But you are right, just
> to keep up the appearance of doing something and wading
> through the sea of spaghetti code it takes major cpu power. On
> two AA batts you get maybe 4-7 minutes :) ???
>

Would a 486 really be used for running win98 though? Someone might try it just
to wow people but that wouldn't be what it is really used for. I'd like it to
use extended memory, dpmi and for faster searches. Even a 486 running at 8 or
16 MHz would be many times faster than the 186 in there now and wouldn't use
very much more power. Linux would probably run well on it also.

John

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> my name is paul Ayuque an i like to share software whit all the people
> that they need i you have some software about civil engineer send me

An excellent source of Engineering freeware and shareware applications for the
LX is:

http://www.mecheng.asme.org/database/browse.html

Bruce in Toronto

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New in box. $45

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:47:44 -0400
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There are several programs thats allow you to change the sleep timer. You
can find these at www.palmtop.net.

I wonder, however, if it will correct your problem. When the LX goes into
sleep mode it completely preserves the state of the RAM, OS and any running
programs. This means that file buffers, read/writes and the file system
should be the same as when it went off. If you're getting file corruption it
may be because of the way the software is written. You may find that, even
if you change the sleep timer to 'never', you're problem may still appear.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Flurin Sutter İmailto:flurin.sutter@WSL.CH¨
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 5:02 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ HP200LX - how to turn off the sleep mode
>
>
> Hello HPLX-L,
>
> The Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape
> Research has bought fifteen
> HP200LX. Now, the problem is that our people working in the
> field, are working with our
> DOS programs and ram or flash cards, and have to walk around
> and find the next tree.
> After three minutes, even when the program is waiting for the
> next input, the HP changes
> to the sleep mode. Sometimes, this process destroys the
> currently opened file! Now, we
> woud like to know, how we can turn off the sleeping mode or
> how we can set the time to
> e.g. one day.
>
> Many thanks
> Fluppi
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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>
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Used 1x for demonstration. Very New. Still in box. Has case for the it.
Was about $900, will sell $385.

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On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:48:59 -0700, zot2u@earthlink.net wrote:

> Used 1x for demonstration. Very New. Still in box. Has case for the it.
> Was about $900, will sell $385.

What is a Prolinear 386?

Jeff

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Could you give a few more details?

Memory, drive(s) capacity, serial/parallel ports, batteries (format and
duration), screen (LCD, Mono/color, CGA?), keyboard layout, PCMCIA slots,
Power supply and/or other accessories, floppy drive, physical dimensions,
weight, CPU clock speed, ROM Apps? DOS Version?.


 Is there a picture?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET İmailto:zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 1:49 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ FS: Prolinear 386 Palmtop PC ($385)
>
>
> Used 1x for demonstration. Very New. Still in box. Has case
> for the it.
> Was about $900, will sell $385.
>
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Hello All,

I resolved the below list problem:

" CHATSCR -- Open Failed. No such File or Directory "

To fix the problem I added the full path to pppd.cfg, but this time the correct
way:

example:

connect "chat -fa:\\_dat\\chatscr.txt"

Note: As per. page 8 of the Pppd.man
The double " \\ " is needed because the " \ " character is interpreted as the
beginning of an escape control code.

The single " \ "  was the monkey with the wrench in my trial and errer.

I was very surprised that nobody posted or had any suggestions to this fact!

But anyway thats the fix and rightful deserves a place in my:

LXTCP, PNS, ccLXPOP - Tips & Tricks

BTW: Its still under construction and is very much needed. (:-¨




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I believe the story withthe 12C is as follows:
HP announces that they are dropping the entire 1xC calculator line
Some company (realestate?) reaally likes them and had issued one to every
  salseman. So they place an order for a lot (3000? 5000?)
HP decides to keep the 12C (but drops the rest of the line)

I discovered this during my quest for a 15C calculator.
I actually found a 12C on State Street, looked like it had been run over
but worked fine. I was so dissapointed to discover the lack of trig
functions. I ended up selling it for $5....

Andrew King  king@charlie.iit.edu
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technology is the answer, what was the question?

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:28:01 -0600
From:    Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject: HP and Old Technology

Has anyone noticed this? The HP12C calculator has been around -- I'm
guessing
-- since 1984-85. That makes it about a 15 year old product! Check out
this site

  http://www.hp.com/calculators/business/

I reckon our business friends run the world -- with their old technology.
New business majors need old calculators. Not one of those calculators is
of the new technology. What gives here? Financial mathematical functions
do not change, so no need to make new calculators.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew King İmailto:king@CHARLIE.CNS.IIT.EDU¨
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 3:32 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ old technology (HP12C)
>
>
> I believe the story withthe 12C is as follows:
> HP announces that they are dropping the entire 1xC calculator line
> Some company (realestate?) reaally likes them and had issued
> one to every
>   salseman. So they place an order for a lot (3000? 5000?)
> HP decides to keep the 12C (but drops the rest of the line)

I think you need the 11C. Wasn't that the 'science' model?
The 12C was the 'business' model.

>
> I discovered this during my quest for a 15C calculator.
> I actually found a 12C on State Street, looked like it had
> been run over
> but worked fine. I was so dissapointed to discover the lack of trig
> functions. I ended up selling it for $5....
>
> Andrew King  king@charlie.iit.edu
> IIT Physics, Chicago  312-567-3021
> technology is the answer, what was the question?
>
> Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:28:01 -0600
> From:    Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> Subject: HP and Old Technology
>
> Has anyone noticed this? The HP12C calculator has been around -- I'm
> guessing
> -- since 1984-85. That makes it about a 15 year old product! Check out
> this site
>
  http://www.hp.com/calculators/business/

I reckon our business friends run the world -- with their old technology.
New business majors need old calculators. Not one of those calculators is
of the new technology. What gives here? Financial mathematical functions
do not change, so no need to make new calculators.

----- reply sep

Maybe so, but battery life, more memory, graphing, programming, I/F and
other connectivity... These are features that can be improved. I remember
that the 12C had poor battery life and expensive watch-type batteries.

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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:48:59 -0700, zot2u@earthlink.net wrote:

> Used 1x for demonstration. Very New. Still in box. Has case for the it.
> Was about $900, will sell $385.

What is a Prolinear 386?


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Found it!

Look in The Hp palmtop Paper Volume 3, Number 3, 1994, page 25.

PalmBook 3000

o List $995.00
o CPU 386 SXLV
o battery 4 "AA" 10-20 hours
o RAM 2BM / 4MB
o ROM 2.5MB
o Keyboard QWERTY full 82 Key Allows Touch Typeing
o Display 640x200 Dual Scan 80x25 Full Screen Display
o I/O 9Pin Serial
o 25 Pin Parallel
o 2 PCMCIA Type II Slots
o Sized Closed: 9-1/2"x4-5/8"x1-11/8
o Software: MS Works 2.0, MS DOS 5.0, PIM Software, PC Link


There was also a Palmbook 1000 with all of the above but had a NEC V30 CPU
$395.00.

Back in 1994 when I first visted the Prolinear Corp. after reading this add
they offered me a $200.00 trade-in on my New 100/LX toward a Palmbook 3000 and
I almost did. Its 1999 and I'm still using that same 100/LX. (:-)

BTW: Prolinear Corp. went out of business a few years back.
IMHO it was to soon. (:-İ


HTH




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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:10:57 -0400
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Comments: To: Flurin Sutter <flurin.sutter@WSL.CH>
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At 09:44 07/16/1999 GMT, you wrote:
>Hi Fluppi,
>
>> The Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research has
bought fifteen
>> HP200LX. Now, the problem is that our people working in the field, are
working with our
>> DOS programs and ram or flash cards, and have to walk around and find
the next tree.
>> After three minutes, even when the program is waiting for the next
input, the HP changes
>> to the sleep mode. Sometimes, this process destroys the currently opened
file! Now, we
>> woud like to know, how we can turn off the sleeping mode or how we can
set the time to
>> e.g. one day.
>

lxPRO will work to change the timeout time but what bothers me is the fact
that you are getting data corruption. The HP200LX should be able to switch
into the sleep mode (turn off) with a DOS program open and then when you
switch the unit back on, you should be right where you left off. The only
reason that it would destroy the currently opened file is if the batteries
are getting low. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I've never
had data loss due to the palmtop switching itself off or by me pressing the
off button with a DOS program running.)

You might want to try something like a belt mountable power pack with a
12Vdc gel cell battery that the workers can wear in the field. With a 5 ~ 7
amp hour gel cell you could run the palmtop all day and longer by using the
power adapter port on the 200lx. This would keep the unit from powering
down into the sleep mode too.

Best Regards ,

Owen Samuelson

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:45:36 -0400
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Prolinear PV-5000 is a 386/20 or 25mhz machine with the following specs

dual (2) pcmcia slots (type 2)
blacklit CGA screen
very typable keyboard
uses AA batterys
has standard Parallel and Serial ports (25pin/9pin)
about the size of a VCR tape when close (it is bigger then a 200LX)
has 8megs of ram and stuff in ROM i forget what

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Subject:      Re: FS:  Prolinear 386 Palmtop PC ($385)

Send me snail mail adrs and I'll send
pictorial facsimile of Prolinear

yore pal al...............................

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Sputnik <sputnik@voicenet.com> wrote:

Prolinear PV-5000 is a 386/20 or 25mhz machine with the following specs

dual (2) pcmcia slots (type 2)
blacklit CGA screen
very typable keyboard
uses AA batterys
has standard Parallel and Serial ports (25pin/9pin)
about the size of a VCR tape when close (it is bigger then a 200LX)
has 8megs of ram and stuff in ROM i forget what


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WOW!
Never knew there was a Prolinear PV-5000 with blacklighting, 8megs.

Thanks for the update Sputnik.




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Date:         Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:46:41 -0400
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Subject:      Low prices for new HP200LX 2/4 MB at onsale

An FYI for anyone looking to buy a new 200LX in the 2MB or 4MB variety.

http://www.onsale.com/atcost/departments/pda.htm

These guys have a 2MB unit for $419 and 4MB for $503 ( WITH FREE SHIPPING!).
I think that's about the best price I've seen. I still wound up buying a
used, like new, unit from thaddeus because I like their service and they
give a warranty for $25/year. Besides, I wanted a 32MB unit and it would
have cost me more to buy from onsale and upgrade.

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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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Hi all,

I know some of us are using Word 5 for DOS on our palmtops. If
you want a Y2K updated version of Word 5.5 M$ is giving it for free
to Word 97 user at its Office Update site.

Regards

Antonio
---------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
Cell Phone + 351 931 555590
Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., local time)
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I have a US Robotics Sportster 14,400 external fax/modem that I can get to
connect at 9600 but wont even dial if set to 14400.  Anyone have a clue as to
what I'm doing wrong?

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Al,

Thanks for the Y0-310 info.  I got to it too late. |-(

If you got the WWW/LX demo going then you are all set.  ATT did some funny business with their servers while you were gone and D&A did a great job with another work around.  Download the latest version and it will work great with ATT.worldnet.       =Bo
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For anyone interesteed in the Y2K Word 5.5 update here is the site

http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/Wd55eng.htm?s=/downloadCatal
og/dldWord.htm

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> From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes

> Hi all,
>
> I know some of us are using Word 5 for DOS on our palmtops.
> If you want a Y2K updated version of Word 5.5 M$ is giving
> it for free to Word 97 user at its Office Update site.

  Thanks Antonio!

  One note...  Telling people that something is "at Microsoft's Office
Update site" is a good start, but it doesn't narrow it down much.  (That's a
BIG site.)  Telling them it's at a specific URL (like
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloaddetails/wd55eng.htm) tends to be a
bit more helpful...

  Thanks again,       :¬)
             ... JLS

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I could scan my brochure on the Prolinear in jpeg if someone wants more info.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:

> Used 1x for demonstration. Very New. Still in box. Has case for the it.
> Was about $900, will sell $385.
>
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At 07:20 PM 7/19/99 -0500, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:
>>
>> I know some of us are using Word 5 for DOS on our palmtops.
>> If you want a Y2K updated version of Word 5.5 M$ is giving
>> it for free to Word 97 user at its Office Update site.

The page at http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloaddetails/wd55eng.htm
mentions "If you wish to create diskettes of Microsoft Word 5.5 for MS-DOS,
you can download a ZIP file that will create a directory by connecting to
ftp.microsoft.com."

I searched the FTP site but did not find a file which appeared to be the
one to which they referred.  Does anyone have any idea to which file the
page refers?

Also, does anyone know the minimum files needed to run MS Word 5.5 on the
HPLX?

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From:         Paul_Stratton <Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      Re: LX gdb database converting to excel or lotus123
Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>

A blank GDB database template only takes a few minutes to create, if you use
the header names in each column of the CSV... Of course, I'm only talking
about simple text and numeric fields in a database. More complex database
structures usually take a little longer. (Grin)

GDBLOAD works very well.  I think we should really thank the author for such
a simple, but powerful tool.

Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com

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From: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: LX gdb database converting to excel or lotus123


> >Also, there's a program called GDBLOAD
> >which allows you to create a GDB database file from a comma-delimited
file.
>
>
> Isn't it so, that you only can 'import' a comma-delimited file into an
> already existing GDB?
>
> -goe-
>
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Steve, I cannot reply to Tony directly, his email is screwed
up...

Here is what Gilles sent to me (confirming your inof):

----------

16 May 1998
Gilles Kohl <100114.3146@compuserve.com>

Avi,

Thanks for forwarding the message. Version 1.11 of VR actually
has the correct address (Hagsfelder Allee 16), but older
versions (which are easy to replace on CompuServe but out of
control on the Internet and shareware CDROMs unfortunately)
may have an older one (Rudolfstr. 12).

My current, complete address is:

  Gilles Kohl,
  Hagsfelder Allee 16
  D-76131 Karlsruhe
  GERMANY

The email address included in the docs
(100114.3146@compuserve.com) has always been valid though.

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   Gilles.

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Hi friends,

does anyoue knoe if there is a TSR that allows to switch the number
keys of the LX to use the keycodes of the numerical key block of a
'normal' keyboard?

Or: does anyone know the macros for key200 for that?

GtX
daniel

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Here are a few links I found.  No pictures - I think I recall seeing them in Educalc
catalogs.

http://tawny.bu.edu/JandJ/How/PS-3000.html

http://www.pathcom.com/~jimomura/book/hand/sizes01.html

http://neil.franklin.ch/Palmtops/

http://www.incline-lcd.com/private/TEST.htm

http://www.dern.com/subnotes.html

http://www.byte.com/features/1999/05/0517support.html



> Could you give a few more details?
>
> Memory, drive(s) capacity, serial/parallel ports, batteries (format and
> duration), screen (LCD, Mono/color, CGA?), keyboard layout, PCMCIA slots,
> Power supply and/or other accessories, floppy drive, physical dimensions,
> weight, CPU clock speed, ROM Apps? DOS Version?.
>
>
>  Is there a picture?
>
>
Best Regards,
Mike Melancon

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> >Hi Fluppi,
> >
> >> The Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research =
has
> bought fifteen
> >> HP200LX. Now, the problem is that our people working in the field, =
are
> working with our
> >> DOS programs and ram or flash cards, and have to walk around and =
find
> the next tree.
> >> After three minutes, even when the program is waiting for the next
> input, the HP changes
> >> to the sleep mode. Sometimes, this process destroys the currently =
opened
> file! Now, we
> >> woud like to know, how we can turn off the sleeping mode or how we =
can
> set the time to
> >> e.g. one day.

This sounds very much like extensive battery drain. Check your flash
cards for their power requirements. Try not to use them at all or
upgrade your HP200LX to 32 or 64 meg internal memory at
www.rundel-d.com

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On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:25:56 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net> =
wrote:

Thanks, worked like a charm :¬)))

Paul

pe> > I may have missed this,but, is there
pe> > any way to re-order the icons in the main window?
pe>
pe> give all your .xf? files and associated icons bogus names to fake it.
pe> That's a pain in the tuchis...  What I do is to set the sort order to
pe> reverse date.  Then hit the + key to bring up the Attribute/Time/Date
pe> window, and change the date/time stamp.  Also a bit of a pain, but
pe> better than the alternative.  Also with the sort set this way, the
pe> newest additions are always added at the end, instead of any old =
place.
pe>
pe> HTH
pe>
pe> -Peniel
pe> ------------
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Hi all,
found this in the alt.comp.etc etc
newsgroup. Great price, don't know anything else.

Paul



From: "Mark Baker" <bakermark@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: FS HP200LX 4 MB=09
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:08:50 -0700

For Sale HP 200lx 4 mb. Great shape. All the manuals plus the connectivity
pack and its manual.

$200.00 plus shipping.

Mark Baker
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Subject:      Re: Word 5.5
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@exis.net>,
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On 19 Jul 99, at 20:12, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

Date sent:              Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:12:37 +0000
To:                     abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
From:                   "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@exis.net>
Subject:                Re: Word 5.5

> At 12:04 AM 7/20/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I know some of us are using Word 5 for DOS on our palmtops. If
> >you want a Y2K updated version of Word 5.5 M$ is giving it for free
> >to Word 97 user at its Office Update site.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Antonio
> ==============
>
> Can you tell me the URL address?
>
> I've visited the MS site, but couldn't find MS Word 5 for DOS.
>
> Thanks.
>
Sorry to all. The URL is

http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloaddetails/wd55eng.htm

Regards

Antonio
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Antonio Queiroz e Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
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David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET> wrote:

> I am leaving Canberra at 9.00am, stopover in Sydney, and
> arriving in San Francisco at 7.20 am that same day ... Is there
> any way around this when scheduling appointments, etc on the
> HP200LX?

The calendar should handle it fine if you make sure to change
your local timezone setting in the palmtop to San Francisco
time when you arrive.  It will look weird to have your arrival
appt appear before your departure appt, but that is the nature
of things when you cross time zones like you are doing.

If you have an appointment in SF for later in the afternoon,
then just put it in pretending you are already in that time
zone.  Meaning, don't manually adjust for the time zone
changes when entering the appt, just use the real time of the
appt.

When you arrive in SF and adjust the time zone setting of the
palmtop, then that appt for later in the afternoon will alarm
properly.

I really don't see a need for a different appt book for the
USA.  This can get confusing and the alarms are set by the
last appt book file you open, so if you open your original
appt book while in the usa, then you must re-open your usa
book otherwise the alarms will be messsed up.


Stan

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Thanks Avi. Gilles has already responded with the registration code.
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I've just installed the above but I'm having problems. Can anyone help
me out?

When loading PIM using the suggested batch file (starts PIM and load
Paledit), it comes up with the following two error messages:-

Can't find file SCRTL? Where is this file? I can't see it in the files I
unzipped from the download at www.dasoft.com. There is a reference to
this file and it's contents in one of the document files. Do I have to
create it manually?
It says a version of Paledit is already open - continue or abort? If you
hit continue the palmtop freezes and I have to re - boot.

I have the software resident on a Thinfax flash card. I've changed all
the relevant paths in the various .cfg files to reflect that.

Thanks

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> Also, does anyone know the minimum files needed to run MS Word 5.5
> on the HPLX?

I have the following on my 200LX:

HYPH.DAT
WORD.EXE
NORMAL.GLY
MW.HLP
MW.INI
SPELL-AM.LEX
THES-AM.LEX
EPSONFX.PRD
HPLASER.PRD
IBMPRO.PRD
POSTSCRP.PRD
TTY.PRD
NORMAL.STY
SCREEN.VID

My setup weighs in at a little over 1.64 MB, and gives me full hyphenation,
spelling, thesaurus and on-line help, as well as well as a full graphic screen
with preview and a choice of six printers.

Hope this helps...
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Barely used Newton Keyboard custom cabled for the 200LX serial port.
Includes padded carrying case. Works with K. Adachi's "Newton Keyboard
Driver" on Palmtop.Net (ntkpac05.zip).

$100 + shipping

Replies to me off-list please.

Thanks!
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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> I am starting to play around with making a Web page and I was wondering if
> anyone out there has made up an HTML reference that they could share.  I
> would like to use the HP200 as a reference while developing the pages.
>
You should check out the HTML 4.0 specification from W3C at:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/cover.html#toc

...as well as a text version at:

http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/html40.txt

Hope this helps,
Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:44:25 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      LXNNTP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm trying to use LXNNTP to access news.hplx.net. After the connection I get
error msg telling me that the incoming.* files are not in the directry.
I'd tried move the spool directry around and change lxtcp.cfg and pnr.cfg,
seems it is opening the correct directry and I'd copy the sample incoming.jn
from the nntp.doc into that directry, but still can't get it to work. Anything
I miss?
The Lxpop and Lxftp both work just fine.

TIA

Roger S.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:10:58 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      İFluff¨ Need an application
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I have several hundred MB of mailing list messages in raw UNIX mailbox
format. Since my fastest machine (the work laptop @ PII-266) uses Win95,
I would like to use it to explore this data. I would like to do things
like:

* Power search
* Thread following
* Group by date, author, subject
* Extract subsets using above criteria

Knowing that there is usually nothing new under the sun, has anyone seen
a program like this?
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:17:46 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, hobchi@JUNO.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: HTML Reference

> I am starting to play around with making
>a Web page and I was wondering if anyone
>out there has made up an HTML reference
>that they could share.

Write to me at hobchi@hotmail.com

yore pal al..................................


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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:38:08 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      HELP WITH ACE DoubleFlash
Comments: To: John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:

> I have all my .pdb on my 'a drive' using a DoubleFlash Ace card....I =
CAN
> NOT GET THE CARD TO SHOW /EXPAND /OPEN??? after working in filer on the =
'a
> drive' side and trying to execute a setup program for ProComPlus...
> I think the card has compressed or whatever since trying to transfer =
from
> the c drive get error of 'disk full'...and this is impossible with the
> present files that show

John, the ACE DoubleFlash cards come from the factory with
Stacker installed.  This is the driver program to allow more
data on the card by compressing and decompressing it
automatically and it is written to and read from the flash
card.

I am not sure what caused the original problem with Procomm
Plus, but we have to determine if you have the proper drivers
loaded in order to have Stacker functioning.   You mentioned
that after a reboot, that an attempt to copy files to the A:
drive resulted in a disk full message.  This is exactly what
happens when the Stacker driver is NOT loaded.  Since Stacker
takes over the whole flash card, when it is not loaded, the
card appears to be full.

Open the Filer application and go over to the A: drive.  If
you see just a couple of STACKER.??? files there and a report
that there are only a few K of bytes available, then it is
certain that Stacker is not loaded.  You will also not see any
of your directories and files that you used to see on the A:
drive.

If you see all of your stuff, then Stacker is loaded and
running.  Then I am not sure what the trouble is.  You can run
the CHECK program that comes with Stacker to check if there is
a corruption.  You can also try DOS's CHKDSK to check for file
system problems.

If you realize above that Stacker is not loaded, then you have
to figure out how to get it to load.  There should be
statements in the CONFIG.SYS file on the UNstacked part of the
card (the one you are looking at now) or on the C: drive that
load the driver for Stacker.

When you rebooted, was the DoubleFlash card in the slot?  If
not, then try rebooting with the card inserted, so that the
palmtop can load the CONFIG.SYS file from the A: drive which
is where it should be.

I don't know what else to say now until I hear back from you
about the things I mentioned above.  Please be more specific
about that you see or don't see and what works and what does
not work.  The more I know about what you see, the better I
can help.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:38:13 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      USR SP 144 FAX/MODEM
Comments: To: dcollins@TRENDX.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:

> I have a US Robotics Sportster 14,400 external fax/modem that I can get =
to
> connect at 9600 but wont even dial if set to 14400

You should set the serial port speed to 19200 when using a
14400 modem.  A serial port speed of 14400 is rather
non-standard and some comms programs can't use it.  Besides, a
14400 modem can transfer data at over 1600 cps, so you want
the serial port speed faster than that.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:38:15 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Changing catagory under Phonebook
Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to change the catagory field in the Phonebook? TIA

Change it to what?  Do you want that field to be some other kind
of field type or do you just want to add another category to
the list of choices in the pull down list?

If you want to add another category to the list, then just
type it in and it will be added to the pull down list.  If
this does not work, then it is probably because the list is
too long.  I forget the actual number, but the total length of
all the items in the list can only be something like 128 or
256 bytes.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:42:00 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: İFluff¨ Need an application

Most good email programs support this and most unix based POP servers will
read unix mbox format.  You should be able to copy the file to say
/var/spool/mail/username and then use a unix POP server and client to access
username's mail. You can then 'read' all the mail into Eudora, outlook,
netscape, etc.

I know that sounds like a simple solution. Did I miss something?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Hamm İmailto:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:11 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ İFluff¨ Need an application
>
>
> I have several hundred MB of mailing list messages in raw UNIX mailbox
> format. Since my fastest machine (the work laptop @ PII-266)
> uses Win95,
> I would like to use it to explore this data. I would like to do things
> like:
>
> * Power search
> * Thread following
> * Group by date, author, subject
> * Extract subsets using above criteria
>
> Knowing that there is usually nothing new under the sun, has
> anyone seen
> a program like this?
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
>
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>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:45:11 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, LFeldman@USA.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Larry Feldman <LFeldman@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: İFluff¨ Need an application
Comments: To: Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Mitch,

Check out:

www.fkeeps.com
This is home to a database, described as a "Mail,Forum & Newsgroup
Message Archiver". I use it on a mailing list I run, and it works fine.

Regards,

Larry Feldman

Mitchell Hamm wrote:
>
> I have several hundred MB of mailing list messages in raw UNIX mailbox
> format. Since my fastest machine (the work laptop @ PII-266) uses Win95,
> I would like to use it to explore this data. I would like to do things
> like:
>
> * Power search
> * Thread following
> * Group by date, author, subject
> * Extract subsets using above criteria
>
> Knowing that there is usually nothing new under the sun, has anyone seen
> a program like this?
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:10:53 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: Problems with PIM and Paledit
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Peter Maddern wrote:
> When loading PIM using the suggested batch file (starts PIM and load
> Paledit), it comes up with the following two error messages:-
>
> Can't find file SCRTL?

What is the batch file you mention? Where did you find it? I assume it
does something that does not help running PE with PIM.

I would suggest to simply start PE.EXE. PIM.EXE you then can launch
from PE by pressing Ctrl-ENTER. To return to PE, you then can press
ESC. No batch required.

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:21:08 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, qman@EARTHLINK.NET
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXNNTP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM> wrote:

I'm trying to use LXNNTP to access news.hplx.net. After the connection I get
error msg telling me that the incoming.* files are not in the directry.
I'd tried move the spool directry around and change lxtcp.cfg and pnr.cfg,
seems it is opening the correct directry and I'd copy the sample incoming.jn
from the nntp.doc into that directry, but still can't get it to work.
Anything I miss?
The Lxpop and Lxftp both work just fine.



    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Hi Roger,

Confirming you can download and read email, but not news?

Lines from my lxtcp.cfg.

;*********************
;* LXNNTP parameters *
;*********************

lxnntp.spooldir=a:\_dat\mail\   ; Your PNR spool directory.

lxnntp.newsrc.=incoming.jn      ; Your newsrc file.


Note: the incoming.jn file must be in the lxnntp.spooldir directory as the
example shows above.


What I did was set everything to use the same directory:


Lines from my lxtcp.cfg.

;********************
;* LXPOP parameters *
;********************

lxpop.spooldir=a:\_dat\mail\    ; Your PNR spool directory.


Lines from my pnr.cfg

İPNR¨

user=qman
host=earthlink.net
name=Quinton Jones Jr
folder=a:\_dat\mail
spool=a:\_dat\mail
timezone=-0800


HTH




Regards,

Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.05

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:11:51 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
Subject:      Re: TSR for using number key block?
Comments: To: d.hertrich@GMX.DE
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Daniel,

> > does anyoue knoe if there is a TSR that allows to switch the
number
> keys of the LX to use the keycodes of the numerical key block of a
> 'normal' keyboard?
>
> Or: does anyone know the macros for key200 for that?

in my hplx manual (page 25-18, german edition, titled "Tips zur
Arbeit mit DOS-Anwendungen") there is a table of keystrokes to
use to get the functions of a "normal" numblock. You have to use
the "menu"-key for this.

I *think* Stefan Peichl's "numlock" on super let's you switch
between hplx and "normal" numpad, too. No need to press "menu"
then. Try it.


Reinhard


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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:03:18 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: İFluff¨ Need an application
In-Reply-To:  <37949987.F0DE8FD@USA.net>; from Larry Feldman on Tue, Jul 20,
              1999 at 11:45:11AM -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> www.fkeeps.com
> This is home to a database, described as a "Mail,Forum & Newsgroup
> Message Archiver". I use it on a mailing list I run, and it works fine.

This is _exactly_ what I was seeking. Thanks to Larry and the list.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:36:35 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Word 5.5
Comments: To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

> I know some of us are using Word 5 for DOS on our palmtops. If
> you want a Y2K updated version of Word 5.5 M$ is giving it for free
> to Word 97 user at its Office Update site.

Yes, but it involves learning a whole new set of keystrokes and menu
access!!!!!!  While Esc/Transfer load was never exactly intuitive, I did
have it down after all these years.  I actually still use Word 5.0 for
dos on my desktop under Win95.  But that is probably the most gracious
thing MS has ever done anyway!!!!

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:59:59 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: Newton Keyboard
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I was just looking for this last week on the net, and did not find it.  Did
Shier stop making the lx connector for this? Or was it someone else that
made them? (not looking to buy just yet, just counting on it for the
future).

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:16:37 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?
Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

----- Original Message -----
From: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Aegis IR-HP5 + External Modem = Infrared email?


> I understand your desired setup is:
>
> TCP/IP...>SLIP..>200lxSerial port...>Serial->IRconverter...>Modem...>ISP

No, it is rather TCP/IP...>200lxSerial
port...>Serial->IRconverter...>Modem...>ISP

The SLIP thing was from someone else's reply.

A HUGE thanks to all who replied.  I will go ahead and attempt the
connection.  I sure hope this list doesn't die any time soon!

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:57:01 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Freeway and ccMail
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For those interested, I wanted to let you know that I got my Freeway pin in
about 3 days!  The trick to getting it so fast is to apply for their VISA
card at the same time.  It did not bother me to do that because: 1-My
contact information will be void in 2 weeks (I am moving to another state).
2-I gave them a fake social security number, which means that my credit
application will be declined, thus no credit card, and I still got my free
long distance pin in 3 days!
Now for the catch:
1-You have to listen to one commercial to get just 2 minutes of free long
distance.  You can acummulate time by listening to more messages, though.
2-You get a maximum of 2 free hours per month.  That makes it somewhat of a
bum deal for talking to someone, but it is perfect for just downloading
email!

So there you have it folks, if you live in the USA you can have free mail
from any state to your palmtop. Just go to the following two sites:
1-For free long distance,  http://www.broadpoint.com
2-For free email to your palmtop, http://www.palmtop.com
(this one is shareware.  With $60 for life you get advanced services).

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:07:07 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      OFF TOPIC: Filename Completion W98
Content-Type: text

Does anyone have a program that works in Win98 that performs filename
completion?  On my palmtop I have such a program, my office NT computer
has it built-in (one thing MS did an okay job of), and of course my
Unix shell account has it.  But I really miss it on my home Win98
machine.  Help!

-Chris


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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:35:04 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: OFF TOPIC: Filename Completion W98
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Chris,

> Does anyone have a program that works in Win98 that performs filename
> completion?  On my palmtop I have such a program, my office NT computer


I use DOSED on the palmtop. I think it should also work in Win98 (but
haven't tried it). If you want I can send you a copy. It's freeware.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:35:17 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: Newton Keyboard
Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <006901bed2e1$ae7f3780$55a81ad1@default>; from Domingo
              Diaz-Vazquez on Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 01:59:59PM -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> I was just looking for this last week on the net, and did not find it.  Did
> Shier stop making the lx connector for this? Or was it someone else that
> made them? (not looking to buy just yet, just counting on it for the
> future).

I don't know if David still does the Newton keyboards. They were getting
difficult to find about 8 months ago. He did not use a special connector
for the conversion. He re-used the little header connector off of the
original Newton cable and mated that to one of his HP serial cables. It
makes for a slick package (he did mine for me.)
--
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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:46:36 -0400
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It seems that I was able to add icons to each of my applications in X-Finder.
However, every tim I exit the program and go back in my icons disappear until
I go into my c:\icon folder, hilight an icon and initialize it. Only then do
my icons return. In my finder.env file I have the following
#Icon directory
%1    c:\icon\

#Icon Archive
%a     c:\_dat\icon.lzh

#Folder Icon directory
%f     c:\iconfld

#Folder icon archive
%g     c:\_dat\iconfld.lzh
Does anyone know how to resolve this problem.
TIA
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In a message dated 7/20/1999 3:32:25 PM, Feinmanr writes:
<< Domingo,

It's a good thing you're moving because the FBI is probably on your trail
right now. :-)

-roger-

In a message dated 7/20/1999 2:58:25 PM, ddvteach@STRATO.NET writes:
<< 2-I gave them a fake social security number, which means that my credit
application will be declined, thus no credit card, and I still got my free
long distance pin in 3 days!
Now for the catch: >>
 >>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:27:59 -0400
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 > Has anyone used Checkview? Is it any good? How does it compare to
 > Quicken on the LX? TIA

They had a demo of it years ago.  It stinks compared to P-Quicken, if
memory serves.  But then P-Q isn't all that great...

I don't think there is anyway to get it anymore.  If so, let me know, I
have a fond place for it by many other abandoned apps, where it won't get
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I'm finally going to get my finances in order, and I *think* I want to
use Quicken.  I have Pocket-Quicken (built-in app), Quicken 7 for DOS,
PQ Connect (I bought a second hand copy), and my desktop comes with a
Windows version of Quicken.  Whew...

Last time I inquired onlist about PQ and Quicken, I was told that some
HPHAND members completed a FAQ or instructions or patch or something
that makes the updating/merging of desktop Quicken files w/ PQ easier.

Does anyone here on the list have access to this material?  If so, can
it be posted to SUPER, or at least to the LX newsgroup?

-Chris

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>I'm finally going to get my finances in order, and I *think* I want to
>use Quicken.

Does anybody on the list use the built-in Quicken for real business
accounting?
I think that it is ok for personal accounting, but not for business
accounting.
I got my own little company and always did my accounting with a good little
Windows program. If it is possible to carry the accounting in my pocket,
it would be very nice! If the built-in Quicken enables me to do double
accounting and export the data to a usable format (CSV etc.), I'll give it
a try.

It took a long time for me to recognize the power of the built-in 1-2-3.
So, who knows?

-goe-

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On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Does anyone have a program that works in Win98 that performs filename
> completion?  On my palmtop I have such a program, my office NT computer
> has it built-in (one thing MS did an okay job of), and of course my
> Unix shell account has it.  But I really miss it on my home Win98
> machine.  Help!

Well, 4DOS (www.jpsoft.com) works under Win95 (and 98 I take it) and has
filename completion and command history. JPSoft also make another command
shell, called Take Command, that tries to be more flexible and Xterm-ish
(I think you can resize it on the fly for instance). I never really liked
it myself, though.

Also, some of the more popular UNIX shells (Tcsh and Bash) have already
been ported to Windows, though I don't have an URL for either of them.


Cheers,

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How do I review a captured VT100 session?

When I log in to my Unix shell acount with the built in DataCom I like
to capture what I do and what is seen.
I then capture the session with F5.
But the captured file is very hard to read due to all the VT100
control codes.

Any ideas on how to get the captured file to look good.

      /tomas moberg
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:51:49 -0400 (EDT)

02h04m04s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> In my finder.env file I have the following
> #Icon directory
> %1    c:\icon\
  ¬¬
Tony - Is this a typo??  If not, that's the problem.  The Icon
directory line should be %i - not %1   The rest of the icon stuff looks
OK.

Question - Why do you keep the icons in a directory instead of in the
.lzh archives?  Archiving them saves lots of space, especially if you
have many icons.

HTH

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It was a typo and is an i and not a 1 and my icons still disappear every time
I exit X-Finder.
Tony

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When selecting icons to use for an application do I have to select them from
either my icon.lzh or iconfld.lzh files or can I have a file say "icons" where
I have my icons stored and select them, copy them to my icon file (c:\icon)
and then initialize them.
Thanks
Tony

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:28:47 -0400 (EDT)

02h41m02s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> #Folder Icon directory
> %f     c:\iconfld

Just spotted this.  There should be a trailing \  eg
%f     c:\iconfld\

Sorry I missed that...

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:39:26 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:04:10 -0400 (EDT)

41m40s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> When selecting icons to use for an application do I have to select them =
from
> either my icon.lzh or iconfld.lzh files or can I have a file say =
"icons"
> where I have my icons stored and select them, copy them to my icon file
> (c:\icon) and then initialize them.

Hmmm-- I'm a little confused (nothing unusual about that 8-)).  You
should be able to use the method you describe.  However, it's more
efficient to copy them to icon.lzh or iconfld.lzh (using XF copy).  XF
uses the icons directly from the archives.  The .icn files must be
stored in uncompressed format, but XF does it automatically.  In either
case, you need to hit F1 (Init) after adding new icons.  You shouldn't
ever need to initialize when starting XF, though.

A cool shortcut, already set up in the default finder.env allows easy
copying of icons:

In your icon collection directory, select some icons you want to use,
and mark them with the Spacebar.  Then hit İShift¨İEnter¨ to copy them
to icon.lzh - or hit İCtrl¨İEnter¨ to copy to iconfld.lzh

I don't have any icons in the defined icon directories (the directories
don't even exist on my machine).  Everything is in the .lzh archives,
and it all works perfectly.

HTH

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In a message dated 7/20/1999 11:18:56 AM, mitch@PALMTOP.NET writes:
<< I have several hundred MB of mailing list messages in raw UNIX mailbox
format. Since my fastest machine (the work laptop @ PII-266) uses Win95,
I would like to use it to explore this data. I would like to do things
like:

* Power search
* Thread following
* Group by date, author, subject
* Extract subsets using above criteria

Knowing that there is usually nothing new under the sun, has anyone seen
a program like this?
--
Mitch
SUPER Team
 >>


Relevant to Mitch Hamm's request, is there anyone who can do a little digging
on Compuserve?  We might be able to solve this problem without anyone having
to spend a lot of money -- or even any.

-roger-

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:29:32 +0200
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@diku.dk>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: Play back a captured VT100 session?
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On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> How do I review a captured VT100 session?
>
> Any ideas on how to get the captured file to look good.

You might try loading ANSI.SYS (or a better replacement, such as ZANSI) in
your CONFIG.SYS and then simply let that interpret the codes in the file
(IIRC, VT-100 and ANSI are fairly compatible). Just use "type filename"
from the command line. You may run into problems pausing the output,
though, because of the speed, but you should be able to stop output
temporarily with Ctrl-S.


Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:50:43 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Freeway and ccMail


> In a message dated 7/20/1999 3:32:25 PM, Feinmanr writes:
> << Domingo,
>
> It's a good thing you're moving because the FBI is probably on your trail
> right now. :-)

I trust you are just kidding.  The number I gave them was a random number.
I don't believe I did something illegal, like a false identity.

Domingo

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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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At 06:36 PM 7/20/99 +0000, fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET wrote:
>> I know some of us are using Word 5 for DOS on our palmtops. If
>> you want a Y2K updated version of Word 5.5 M$ is giving it for free
>> to Word 97 user at its Office Update site.
>
>Yes, but it involves learning a whole new set of keystrokes and menu
>access!!!!!!
==========
 You might try to reconfigure MS Word 5.5 to the keystrokes you prefer.
I've noticed Word 5.5 has macro capability.  I plan to use macros to
configure Word to use the "standard" key-function combinations used by
current MS Windows applications; e.g., CTRL-X for Cut.  I'm not positive,
but I seem to recall there was another way to do this involving re-mapping
the keyboard (possibly involving the .GLY file extension).  I'll
investigate this further.

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From:         Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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Hi, Qman and List
Thanks for your copy of the cfg files. Yes, I download and read e-mail
without any problem. I was trying to use different spool directies for mail
and news, c;\lxtcp\mail\spool and c:\lxtcp\news\spool. I'd also try to put
the incoming.jn into both. And I put the complete path in the cfg files.
Nothing seems to work. May be I just hv to put them all in one directry.
Will try it tonight.
I noticed that in the LXNNTP parameters section you put a "." in between
lxnntp.newsrc and the "=", is this really should be there? It is not shown
on the LXNNTP.doc.

Another question, I'd tried using cclxpop and lxpop (both using the same
epppd) to download e-mails but I always get error (after connected to my
ISPs) and the program time out. This happen all the time on both (Once in a
while, they can download 20 to 30 mails in one shot). I'm talking about
mails from the list (only a few k each). But with Arachne, I can download
mails with attachment greater than 600k (with great download speed too, but
really really slow when try to view them, or else, I would hv use it). Is it
only me? Anything I can do to improve the connection? Serial port
setting(I'd tried 2400 and 9600 can't go higher)?
BTW, I'm using an external (software upgraded to V.90) modem. I think it is
Rockwell chip set(?)

TIA

Roger S.

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Greetings,

  While on vacation, I noted that WalMart has WebTV IR keyboards - that got
me to thinking and begs the question, "Has anyone interfaced an IR keyboard
to their 200LX?"  Sure would make a neat add on and fill the whole that the
Newton keyboards also fills!!!

  john

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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> Does anyone know how many subsets are possible under the phonebook?

Sixteen.


Stan

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> > It's a good thing you're moving because the FBI is probably on your trail
>
> I trust you are just kidding.  The number I gave them was a random number.
> I don't believe I did something illegal, like a false identity.

Those (in the USA) interested in spoofing their SSN (and why you might
want to do this) should read the SSN FAQ; very interesting privacy
reading.

  http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/ssn/ssn.faq.html

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:53:27 -0700
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Wordperfect help

Thanks to everyone who recommended WP 5.1. I got it
and love it! The help is good enough that I'm figuring
out how to do what I need, but I'm stumped and need
help:

I used the "alternate" keyboard layout file to "remap"
pg-up and pg-dn to move one screen at a time instead
of moving to the beginning of the next/previous page.
Then I discovered that in Print/View, I cannot move
between pages. I tried to remap menu-+ (numpad "+")
to do the default page-down function, but even though
I turned off the alternate keyboard layout, I could
not get page-down to produce a key code in that little
edit window. (I hope this makes sense to WP users.)

As an alternative, I thought about using key200 to
swap functions (in one SC area), but this won't help
on my desktop where I do some of the fine tuning and
printing.

Any help or suggestions?

tia,
n.

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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>  The number I gave them was a random number.
> I don't believe I did something illegal, like a false identity.

Quoting from the FAQ refered to earlier "There are legal penalties for
providing a false number when you expect to gain some benefit from it."

The freeway people may assume you were trying to defraud he credit card
company.



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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:14:48 +0100
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Ed Morgan wrote:
> c:\pgp\PGP.EXE -esa %1 -o C:\SCRATCH.
>
> and it did create the scratch file ( scratch not scratch.pgp )
> but still error message that it could not be opened.

This would assume you run PE from c:\ as that is the directory in which
SCRATCH is created using the above command.

> error message. Apparently paledit is having problems finding
> it.

Yes. It would have to scan the whole disk in order to find it. PE only
looks in the current directory.

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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> it would be very nice! If the built-in Quicken enables me to do double
> accounting and export the data to a usable format (CSV etc.)

I once wrote a utility that exports PQ data to CDF (which was the name
for CSV before MS invented it). The name is PQ2CDF. I am not sure
whether it is on SUPER or not.

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Item from Thursday's Herald Tribune published in Frankfurt:

"Hunt for NATO Chief Moves Into New Phase" - and it talks
about the outgoing head of the UK Liberal Democrats, MP Paddy
Ashdown's chances of becoming the next new NATO
Secretary-General.

How relevant to HP 200LX? I believe MP Ashdown was the same MP
who also uses a HP200LX.

Hope he does well!

  Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> posted on 12 Jul 1999:

> Getting 40 replies from a list of hundreds is a good response and hardly
> deafening silence, which I'm sure you could confirm by talking to
> someone who does that sort of thing professionally (which I do not).

You interpret the non-responses as having responded in favor,
and I do not know that to be a fact (I am sure you do not
either). I think rather that the interested parties mobilized
themselves to reply because it is an important issue for
them! Those who don't care, don't have a real good reason to
bother replying.

> JFTR, I didn't reply to the survey because it seemed as if your
> company's mind was made up already.  I can understand that but I didn't
> want you to misunderstand silence on my part - and maybe others.

Let me explain that when we decided to not do an HV sequel it
was for purely technical reasons. It is not because of the
color of the eyes, or money, or what have you. Please accept
that it is because of technical reasons only. (I guess we do
not how to make a 80186 behave like a 30386!)

So it is not some marketing decision we made up in our mind as
you seem to present it.

With all the flak we received for making our position known,
I thought that perhaps there are more technical brains in the
community as a whole than we have. I suggested the browser
development. I suggested that perhaps a survey of what people
really wanted was in order. Unfortunately, this turned into
an HV-fest, and HV survey, an HV vote. I suppose it is really
hard for people to hear what they do not want to hear, but we
really do not know how to make HV better than what it is now.

So far, it seems that none of the technical brains here have
deemed it necessary or possible or worthwhile or ? to make a
sequel a reality. Ask yourself why that is.

Let me add some more information. Based on discussions with
Andreas in recent days, I think we can easily support any
community effort in several ways. For example, we can provide
from the experience we have with HV, although it may be
limited compared to a prospective "other" browser. We will
definitely support the ABI, as Rod has suggested some time
ago. Lastly, if I understand the sequel project correctly, it
will be public and have public APIs, and so we will include
support for it in WWW.EXE.

I hope this deepens the understanding of our true position in
this matter.

   Avi Meshar
   D&A Software
   http://www.dasoft.com

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>I could not get page-down to produce
>a key code in that little edit window.

First press Ctrl-V
Then PgDn

Ctrl-V enables you to enter this type of keys

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:05:49 +0200
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>I once wrote a utility that exports
>PQ data to CDF (which was the name
>for CSV before MS invented it). The
>name is PQ2CDF. I am not sure whether
>it is on SUPER or not.

Yep, found it there.
Thank you very much.

Now I have to check out, if Pocket Quicken
does double accounting (is this the proper
word for 'doppelte Buchhaltung'?)

-goe-


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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:24:48 +0200
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
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Paul,

> Thanks for the pointers for using PNS with X-Finder!!
> I _never_ would have thought of that, it works great.
> Thanks for finding these capabilities and letting us
> know about them.

For me PNS200 is one of the great programs which makes live easy and
adds a lot of use to the applications.

I have setup POST/LX to use PNS200

   post.cfg

   İSYSTEM¨
   Editor=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com "pe.exe $f $o"
   PNS=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com c:\bin\pns200.exe
   GrabLink=3DHV.HOT
   .....

I also use maxdos to have maximum memory available for the selected
applications.

post.bat

   @echo off
   c:\bin\maxdos.com -l -e34
   c:
   cd \www
   @www -d "!post"
   cd \
   c:\bin\maxdos.com -r


This allows me from POST/LX:

   Ctrl-M:                              (open attachments)
      PNS200 allows me now to select:
         View MS Word 97 Documents
         Unzip
         Edit
         View jpeg, pcx ...
         list
         ...
         .. no end in sight

PE setup with PIM is the default editor. APPs, Todos, Phone, etc. are
available at keystroke. Cut & Paste are obvious. *NO* interim storage of
data is required.

With POST/LX I send and receive SMS messages through my GSM phone.

POST/LX along with PNS200 became the Communication Center or with
other words ../LX is an attractive suite, where I do all my
communication all day, all week, business and private.

Regards

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Hallo all

I found the word for my 'double accounting':
I meant 'balance' I want to do accounting
with balance. Is this possible with the
built-in Quicken?

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:35:40 +0100
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On 07-20 08:07pm, you wrote

> Does anyone have a program that works in Win98 that performs filename
> completion?  On my palmtop I have such a program, my office NT computer
> has it built-in (one thing MS did an okay job of), and of course my
> Unix shell account has it.  But I really miss it on my home Win98
> machine.  Help!

Do you mean filename completion on the command line? what about
using 4dos? It runs under win 95, don't know about 98, but I
guess it works there too. You get filename completion by
pressing the Tab-key with 4dos.

Reinhard


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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Does anyone know where one could find "The C Programming Language" by K&R,
> preferably 1st ed in text format?

Out of curiousity, to what end is it you want the first edition?  Modern
compilers almost invariably adhere to ANSI standard, which is well laid out in
K&R second edition (something you should be able to pick up at any college
bookstore)

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      WP 5.1 View Doc

Regarding the question of paging through a WordPerfect 5.1
print preview without having access to PageUp and PageDown.

It's not as simple, but Home-Home-UpArrow and Home-Home-
DownArrow will take you to the beginning and end of the
document.  The GoTo command {Ctrl-Home} will take you to
a specified page.

Ted

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Hi all

        Anyone help me !
                                    My old disks of Word and WP are
corrupted.
who know an URL to find this programs.

TIA


Luis Prado
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Mitch,

I think I know where there are two such Keyboards with special connectors, software, etc.  If someone is interested I can either get them or point you in the right direction.  They are rare but fun animals.  =Bob=

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   >Ctrl-V enables you to enter this type of keys

Thanks! I knew that from remapping the other keys, but
forgot. Works fine now.

n.

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Subject:      Re: Quicken Help

Addressed to: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
              <hplx-l@uconnvm.uconn.edu>

** Reply to note from Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> 07/21/99 09:10am +0200

What is accounting with balance? I assume you don't mean balancing the amount after all the
transactions are entered?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:17:33 +0800
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Thanks Qman. I'd final got it working. The problem was missing " in one of
the line.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:31:36 -0400
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Subject:      problems running todo.exm

I've added todo.exm to app manager and to my moreexm.ini file but it doesn't
seem to want to run. I get the message 'cannot find application to open'. I
verified the file location.

Anybody see this problem?

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I know that quite a few people have downloaded and tried the PIM
extensions of PE, but so far I have no idea if anyone is actually
*using* it. Did you download it, check it out and

 - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?
 - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?
 - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
   you dropped it?
 - ..., so you dropped it?
 - are still experimenting with it?
 - are still trying to get used to it?
 - use it?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:46:17 -0400
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Peniel
Do you know the site where I can get a copy of xcopy? I lost it in a crash.
Thanks
Tony

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Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:43:28 -0400 (EDT)

11m46s ago ...
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I've added todo.exm to app manager and to my moreexm.ini file but it =
doesn't
> seem to want to run. I get the message 'cannot find application to =
open'. I
> verified the file location.
>
> Anybody see this problem?

Hi Ed -

How many EXMs have you added to AppMgr?  It sounds like you've exceeded
the limit (I think 8 on the 200LX).  Try removing it from AppMgr, and
just running it from the MoreEXM hotkey.  Don't forget to reboot after
adding new apps to MoreEXM...

Or - get my favorite application - X-Finder.  With XF, you can run EXMs
without even registering 'em  8-).

HTH

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:54:43 +0000
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Well, I don't expect that this is now the support forum for this but
....


I have had Word 5.5 for a while but have only briefly reviewed it.

This morning I decided to give it another go.  I have found that only
SOME of my former macros (Escape/Insert) seem to show up in 5.5.  Some
of them are there so that the "NORMAL style or glossaries" from my older
5.0 version are active and visible.  So the question - where did the
rest of them go? (G)

Any help (off list if necessary) appreciated.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:05:58 -0400
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Subject:      Re: PIM/PE

I downloaded it and it took a little while to get it going. I finally
figured out that running PE and pressing ctrl-enter was the way to go. I did
have some problems with my HPLX locking up. It also seemed a little
difficult to use. I figured that the built apps were good enough for me and
if you released a newer revision I would try again. The only real
limitations I run into on the built-ins has to do with file corruption. I
found that a little proactive maintenance can head that off.

PIM is a nice program but you have to make some time to learn how to use it
whereas the built in apps are pretty self-explanatory. I still have it
installed on my LX and will probably experiment with it for a while longer.

Here's an example of the problems I had:
When I add an appointment it doesn't seem to add an end time. I'm sure it's
in the documentation but I just haven't made the time to figure it all out.


BTW: Please don't take my comments in a negative light. My comments are
qualitative in nature and I only supplied them as a response for your
request. It looks like a nice little program and if I made the time and
effort I'm sure that I would find it more usable. I appreciate your efforts
in developing the application  and realeasing it for all. Thank you.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto İmailto:garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 12:44 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ PIM/PE
>
>
> I know that quite a few people have downloaded and tried the PIM
> extensions of PE, but so far I have no idea if anyone is actually
> *using* it. Did you download it, check it out and
>
>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?
>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?
>  - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
>    you dropped it?
>  - ..., so you dropped it?
>  - are still experimenting with it?
>  - are still trying to get used to it?
>  - use it?
>
> Andreas
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:32:47 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:43:52 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?

Not to hard to set-up, but did drop it.

>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?

There is a definate learning curve associated with the application.

>  - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
>    you dropped it?

It is interesting.

>  - ..., so you dropped it?
>  - are still experimenting with it?

No.

>  - are still trying to get used to it?

No.

>  - use it?

No.

If PIM could be used with the older v2.1 PE, I would probably take them =
time
to overcome the learning curve, but due to the memory needs of the new =
PE, I
have elected to continue using v2.1 of PE.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:11:10 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 13 Jul 1999 02:44:01 -0700, franklin@ONLINE.NO (Franklin) wrote:

> Compaq patents a keyboard that captures your kinetic energy. Magnets =
and
> coils on each key charge a small battery to augment the big one in your
> laptop.
>
> Have a look at www.slashdot.org.
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>

Naahh..can this be true..:-))) I have had 5(maybe 6 or scheven) beers
now and this message made me smile a lot..a friend of mine is a
"violent" keyboard "hit'er"..imagine what big amounts of energy he
could produce..I have to power up my desktop pc to look at this
link..(thats what I use the pc for..or the "dustcollector" which I call
it now.)

Have a nice day...


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   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
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Subject:      Re: X-Finder/Icons Still

>Peniel
>Do you know the site where I can get
a copy of xcopy? I lost it in a crash.

Write to me at hobchi@hotmail.com

yore pal al..........

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:55:01 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
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Below is a copy of the official Microsoft statement on the Year 2000
compatibility of MSDOS V5.0  held in the 200LX. I stumbled across it and
thought I would pass it to the list in case anyone is interested.

Laurence Harvey

------------------------- Microsoft Statement ---------------------------
Product: DOS 5.0 (ROM) for HP200LX
Operating System: DOS
Version: 5.0
Category: Compliant with minor issues
Language: English
Release Date: 01 Jun 1993
Operational Range: 04 Jan 1980 - 31 Dec 2035
Prerequisites:
Product Dependencies:
Clock Dependencies: PC Bios
Last Updated: 21 Oct 1998
Product Details

Description of how the product handles dates:
MS-DOS is aware of dates beyond the year 2000. It does not display the full
year, but will sort files correctly.

2-digit shortcut handling:
If a 2-digit date is entered, the operating system will assume that the date
entered is in the 20th century.
The MS-DOS. DATE command does not correctly handle 2-digit dates from 00 79.
This command returns the error message "Invalid Date" upon entry of 2-digit
dates within this range. Dates entered using a 4-digit year are handled
correctly (e.g. 01-01-2000).
MS-DOS. DATE command is the only operating system command that accepts
dates. See the note above for the 2-digit year logic.
MS-DOS. file system APIs use a year offset from 1980 to store dates. When a
program gets a date from an MS-DOS. API the program must add 1980.

Product compliance issues:
7 MS-DOS cannot display a 4-digit date, using the DIR command (internal to
COMMAND.COM).
7 MS-DOS will not accept 2-digit date changes for the year 2000 and beyond.
To enter the correct date, a 4-digit year must be entered to the DATE
command (internal to COMMAND.COM). Failure to enter the correct 4-digit date
will result in an "Invalid Date" error.

Recommendations:
There are no patches available at this time and no plans to develop any
patches. The issues raised here that cause non-compliance are infrequently
used and easily worked around.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:54:49 +0200
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Andreas,

>  - use it?

I use it a lot for unformatted text and along with POST/LX. All project
planing, daily scheduling etc. is done with PE/PIM. PE/PIM works across
all files stored in the \..\data directory, which is a great advantage.

I like to encourage everybody, who ever used PE to spend 30 minutes to
get started. It is worthwhile and the more you get used to it the more
you can't live without it on your hp200lx. It will cost you some time,
but finally it will save you a lot of time in your daily work.

I wish I could learn from your examples.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:11:09 -0800
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I'm Look for the full command set of IBM-ANSI control sequences in printed
form. If you have a copy or know its location, I'd like to here from you.

Any help in locating the above would be appreciated!




Regards,

Qman...
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:10:28 -0800
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From:         Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Freeway and ccMail

Russel Brooks writes:
> > > It's a good thing you're moving because the FBI is probably on your trail
> >
> > I trust you are just kidding.  The number I gave them was a random number.
> > I don't believe I did something illegal, like a false identity.
>
> Those (in the USA) interested in spoofing their SSN (and why you might
> want to do this) should read the SSN FAQ; very interesting privacy
> reading.
>
>   http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/ssn/ssn.faq.html
>
> cheers... Russ
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:02:36 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Starting with batch file was recommended in file pe.doc that I got when
I unzipped PE.zip. It was authored by Andreas on 2 May 99. It states
under the section "Database handling":-

"In Application Manager, I have installed an icon that is named "PIM".
When selected, it runs C:\BAT\PIM.BAT, which is a batch file that looks
like:

 @echo off
 c:
 cd \pim
 pe @

It changes the current directory to C:\PIM and launches PE with the
argument "@". As described above, this loads all files that are listed
in the file named SRCLIST. My C:\PIM\SRCLIST looks like etc etc"

Also, when I hit Ctrl + enter, I get the PIM file. It gives today's date
with a line across the middle. But how do I bring up the weekly view
screen that loads when you load PIM.EXE?

Thanks

In message , Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> writes
>Peter Maddern wrote:
>> When loading PIM using the suggested batch file (starts PIM and load
>> Paledit), it comes up with the following two error messages:-
>>
>> Can't find file SCRTL?
>
>What is the batch file you mention? Where did you find it? I assume it
>does something that does not help running PE with PIM.
>
>I would suggest to simply start PE.EXE. PIM.EXE you then can launch
>from PE by pressing Ctrl-ENTER. To return to PE, you then can press
>ESC. No batch required.
>
>Andreas
>

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:15:55 -0700
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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I agree with Don, it is likely you're safe from legal
action. I was
merely addressing the "any thing wrong" question.

Donald Collins wrote:
>
> It would be a complete waste of time & resources for the company to persue
> any legal action.  Your quite safe.
>
> Don
>
> Patrick West writes:
> > Quoting from the FAQ refered to earlier "There are legal penalties for
> > providing a false number when you expect to gain some benefit from it."
> >
> > The freeway people may assume you were trying to defraud he credit card
> > company.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:32:32 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Hello All,

For those interested I have developed a new Accton Ethernet card driver that
stays resident after being loaded.  This allows the card to be reinitialized
to start working again with the network each time you put it back in the
palmtop.  It also means that the packet driver can stay loaded as well since
the driver also initializes the card to work with the packet driver again.

If you want me to email you a beta copy for testing purposes please email me
at mack@times2tech.com

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:34:28 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: New Accton Ethernet Driver
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>

That sounds pretty good. Right now, I have a dual-boot config for using the
card. This means that I can have more flexibility and not have to do that.
I'd like a copy.


BTW: Do you think that you may consider writing Accton driver for Minix? I
think the only things LXminix is missing is networking and the ability to
mount a DOS drive.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mack Baggette İmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 4:33 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ New Accton Ethernet Driver
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> For those interested I have developed a new Accton Ethernet
> card driver that
> stays resident after being loaded.  This allows the card to
> be reinitialized
> to start working again with the network each time you put it
> back in the
> palmtop.  It also means that the packet driver can stay
> loaded as well since
> the driver also initializes the card to work with the packet
> driver again.
>
> If you want me to email you a beta copy for testing purposes
> please email me
> at mack@times2tech.com
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:43:31 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> BTW: Do you think that you may consider writing Accton driver for Minix? I
> think the only things LXminix is missing is networking and the ability to
> mount a DOS drive.

I should be able to build a primitive driver for MINIX.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:35:35 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> BTW: Do you think that you may consider writing Accton driver for
> Minix? I think the only things LXminix is missing is networking and
> the ability to mount a DOS drive.

I think with the experience gained from writing this driver Mack will be
in a prime position to do so.  <g>  Well, at least a more prime position
than anyone else...

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:58:00 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Anyone comment on what does the Thaddeus double speed and 32 or 64Mb
upgrade does to battery life?

Thx
Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:33:59 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Peter Maddern wrote:

> Anyone comment on what does the Thaddeus double speed and 32 or 64Mb
> upgrade does to battery life?

The 2x upgrade reduces battery life by something like 25%... as for the
memory upgrades, I haven't noticed any significant power drain.  In fact,
in some palmtops, they may increase your battery life, because the
32/64/96MB daughtercards use less power than the existing daughtercard.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:03:21 +0100
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              Paulo =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cust=F3dio?= <paulo.custodio@SNAFU.DE>
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> a:\bin\open %
> The above is what I used to run a built-in App (database, Phone, NoteTaker).
>
> Q: What would i put in WhereIs to use Memo to read/open a file?

open also - the newer version available on SUPER opens MEMO if it cannot
recognize the file extension.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:12:11 +0100
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              David Cripps <d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK>
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Hi

I'm trying to use my HP to dial into a Windoz RAS server. I've no problem
setting up a TCP/IP dial up from my 95 desktop, but for network support
issues would really like to dial in from the palmtop, to ping, telnet, etc.

At the moment I can use epppd to connect to my local ISP, but when I try to
connect to work I get to "connect" then "ppp link down"

HELP!!

Has anybody else managed to dial into a RAS server without using Windoz?

Tks

Dave

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:11:53 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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Well, I suppose I gave bad advice then.   My point was, unless you apply for
a credit card with Freeway, your free long distance pin will take as much as
60 days to get to you, whereas I already have mine (after only 3 days).

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 4:15 PM
Subject: fluff: ss num


> I agree with Don, it is likely you're safe from legal
> action. I was
> merely addressing the "any thing wrong" question.
>
> Donald Collins wrote:
> >
> > It would be a complete waste of time & resources for the company to
persue
> > any legal action.  Your quite safe.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Patrick West writes:
> > > Quoting from the FAQ refered to earlier "There are legal penalties for
> > > providing a false number when you expect to gain some benefit from
it."
> > >
> > > The freeway people may assume you were trying to defraud he credit
card
> > > company.
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:31:37 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: New Accton Ethernet Driver
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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hi Mark,
I would like to receive you beta version please.
I was never able to conect my paltop to a win 95 machine with the older one.
regards
Al
> If you want me to email you a beta copy for testing purposes please email me
> at mack@times2tech.com
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>
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>
>


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:12:32 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mack Baggette İmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 4:44 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ New Accton Ethernet Driver
>
>
> > BTW: Do you think that you may consider writing Accton
> driver for Minix? I
> > think the only things LXminix is missing is networking and
> the ability to
> > mount a DOS drive.
>
> I should be able to build a primitive driver for MINIX.

That would be awesome! Minix already has telnet,ping, ftp, traceroute, etc.
(servers and client!). Now I gotta get to work making a MINIX filesystem
that will fit on my 32MB C: drive.;-)


>
> Cheers,
> Mack
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:58:42 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Wordperfect help
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Nancy, et al;

First, try running WP with no other programs running, and see if it
works.  If it does, then that tells you that some other memory resident
program is conflicting w/WP.

Next, try using this startup option: /nk   It disables advanced keyborad
BIOS calls and may allow WP to "talk" more clearly with the keyboard.

If that doesn't work, then try /x to temporarily reset the program's
setting to defaults.  If it works, then you may have a corrupted .SET
file.

Good luck.

Regards,
Richard

=========================

From:
      "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>

Thanks to everyone who recommended WP 5.1. I got it
and love it! The help is good enough that I'm figuring
out how to do what I need, but I'm stumped and need
help:

I used the "alternate" keyboard layout file to "remap"
pg-up and pg-dn to move one screen at a time instead
of moving to the beginning of the next/previous page.
Then I discovered that in Print/View, I cannot move
between pages. I tried to remap menu-+ (numpad "+")
to do the default page-down function, but even though
I turned off the alternate keyboard layout, I could
not get page-down to produce a key code in that little
edit window. (I hope this makes sense to WP users.)

As an alternative, I thought about using key200 to
swap functions (in one SC area), but this won't help
on my desktop where I do some of the fine tuning and
printing.

Any help or suggestions?

tia,
n.

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:59:35 -0700
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              Chris <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
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Get the draw... The program is small but has all of the characters
printable.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 4:00 PM
Subject: Looking for IBM-ANSI control sequences!


> Message text written by INTERNET:qman@EARTHLINK.NET
> >
> I'm Look for the full command set of IBM-ANSI control sequences in printed
> form.<
>
> Look to SUPER for a database file that contains the complete ANSI command
> set. I used it a lot on my DOS-only PC: rarely use it any more.  Search on
> ANSI and see if it turns up.
>
> .ed.İPTP¨
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:14:43 +0000
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John,

A friend on compuserve has a couple, but he is very busy at the moment
& getting married soon.  I only here from him ever few weeks.  If you
want one I will try to contact him and give him your address.  =Bob=

>   I'm interested.  Where are they?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:04:53 -0500
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Subject:      Looking for IBM-ANSI control sequences!

What is it are we looking for here?
I have a public domain TSR that pops
up ASCII chars with their scan codes.
It wuz orig a pgmers reference
Is that it?  If so write to me at
hobchi@hotmail.com

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:14:53 -0600
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              Arturo Galindo <agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM>
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HI there you all, perhaps someone out there has a map of the mexican subway
sistem (metro) tha can be seen in the hp 200 lx screen and prehaps he or she
is willing to share with one thas has to go there and wants to use it and
not look so "tourist"
TIA
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:47:07 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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I'm looking for one Newton Keyboard,
but US$100 is a bit to much money for me.
regards
Alain
> John,
>
> A friend on compuserve has a couple, but he is very busy at the moment
> & getting married soon.  I only here from him ever few weeks.  If you
> want one I will try to contact him and give him your address.  =Bob=
>
> >   I'm interested.  Where are they?
>
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>


Al
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:45:50 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Ok.  Please give him my address.  Any idea how much he's asking for them?

  Thanks,
       ... John L. Stanley

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Newins İmailto:b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 8:15 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: FS: Newton Keyboard
>
>
> John,
>
> A friend on compuserve has a couple, but he is very busy at the moment
> & getting married soon.  I only here from him ever few weeks.  If you
> want one I will try to contact him and give him your address.  =Bob=
>
> >   I'm interested.  Where are they?
>
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> How do I review a captured VT100 session?

I translate the control characters with an AWK script:

  { gsub( /\033\İİ01¨*İJKm¨İ0-9¨*/, "" )
    gsub( /\033\İİ0-9¨+;İ0-9¨+Hİ\007\021\023¨*/, "\n" )
    print
  }

With Perl, it would be:

  s/\033\İİ01¨*İJKm¨İ0-9¨*//g;
  s/\033\İİ0-9¨+;İ0-9¨+Hİ\007\021\023¨*/\n/g;
  print $_;

You could do the Perl script as a one-line bat file:

  perl -p -e's/\033\İİ01¨*İJKm¨İ0-9¨*//g; s/\033\İİ0-9¨+;İ0-9¨+Hİ\007\021\=
023¨*/\n/g;' %1 > %2

where %1 is the .cap file and %2 is an output file.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 06:34:30 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Ed Padin wrote:
> PIM is a nice program but you have to make some time to learn how to use it
> whereas the built in apps are pretty self-explanatory.

I guess this is a good description. It is not the purpose of PIM to be
an "easy to use" tool, but an "efficient to use tool". If the built-in
appts to everything somebody needs, they are certainly the better
choice.

> When I add an appointment it doesn't seem to add an end time.

If you want it to end at "7:15", just type "7:15", that's all. Sounds
stupid, isn't it? But that's all it takes.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 06:34:32 +0100
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h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> It will cost you some time,
> but finally it will save you a lot of time in your daily work.

That was the thought behind it: to make it as efficient as possible in
the *long run*. It is not really "intuitive" I think, but once you get
used to it, it is quite powerful - at least I think so <G>.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:12:01 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> Peter Maddern wrote:
> > When loading PIM using the suggested batch file (starts PIM and load
> > Paledit), it comes up with the following two error messages:-
> >
> > Can't find file SCRTL?
>
> What is the batch file you mention? Where did you find it? I assume it
> does something that does not help running PE with PIM.

People are reading the docs for PE (for a nice change! :-)
...) and you have there a batch file in the DB section of the
DOC.

Hey, thanks for the hospitality! I really had a nice time at
your home. And you ar right: old, liquified onlion smell worse
than baby diapers! :-) You got a nose for these things! :)

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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Freeway and ccMail
>
> > In a message dated 7/20/1999 3:32:25 PM, Feinmanr writes:
> > << Domingo,
> >
> > It's a good thing you're moving because the FBI is probably on your trail
> > right now. :-)
>
> I trust you are just kidding.  The number I gave them was a random number.
> I don't believe I did something illegal, like a false identity.
>
> Domingo

What if you "randomly" gave them my SSN and your name? Do
you consider that false identity? You can't really be that
naive? What if the FBI shows up at my door and ask questions?
Should I tell them about you? Do you consider that the
"randonm" number may be someone else's number? Are you really
seriously thinking that giving someone else's number is is not
a false identity? Sheesh!

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:19:01 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Peter Maddern wrote:
> Starting with batch file was recommended in file pe.doc that I got when
> I unzipped PE.zip. It was authored by Andreas on 2 May 99. It states
> under the section "Database handling":-

Oh, oh! This was way before the current PIM additions were developed.
Should have removed that from PE.DOC as it is obiously confusing now
that PIM.EXE is available.

> Also, when I hit Ctrl + enter, I get the PIM file. It gives today's date
> with a line across the middle. But how do I bring up the weekly view
> screen that loads when you load PIM.EXE?

Set up all the parameters in PE.CFG and PIM.CFG as specified in PIM.DOC
and then add at least one appointment.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:40:44 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dialing into a Windows RAS server

David Cripps writes:
> I'm trying to use my HP to dial into a Windoz RAS server. I've no problem
> setting up a TCP/IP dial up from my 95 desktop, but for network support
> issues would really like to dial in from the palmtop, to ping, telnet, etc.
>
> At the moment I can use epppd to connect to my local ISP, but when I try to
> connect to work I get to "connect" then "ppp link down"

Does the Windows RAS server use MSCHAP authentication (Microsoft's
corruption of the CHAP standard) ?

If so, (and you can't get it to use standard CHAP instead), then you
won't be able to get EPPPD to work with it, as the CHAP support in
EPPPD does not understand MSCHAP.

This is the main reason why I am trying to get the source code to
EPPPD (with no success so far - even the webmaster of the site where
Toni Lopez's page resides says he seems to be "lost in space").  If we
had the source code then we would be able to update it to support MSCHAP.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:33:24 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: New Accton Ethernet Driver

Mack Baggette writes:
> For those interested I have developed a new Accton Ethernet card driver that
> stays resident after being loaded.  This allows the card to be reinitialized
> to start working again with the network each time you put it back in the
> palmtop.  It also means that the packet driver can stay loaded as well since
> the driver also initializes the card to work with the packet driver again.

I just wanted to publicly say that this driver is (in my personal
opinion) the best thing for the HP200LX since Mack's last driver (the
BIOS message killer).

I feel priviledged because in both cases I stated a personal need on
this list, and a couple of weeks later Mack magically releases a tool
that does exactly what I wanted with no other superfluous bells or
whistles.

Either Mack and I have identical needs for raw functionality drivers,
or he's my own personal genie :-)  In either case, I am indebted to him
for solving my two most pressing needs ...

I've beta tested this new ethernet driver and it works well with LXTCP,
replacing the op2216 program from the lxether3.zip file on SUPER.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:02:32 +0200
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Rod,

> David Cripps writes:
> > I'm trying to use my HP to dial into a Windoz RAS server. I've no =
problem
> > setting up a TCP/IP dial up from my 95 desktop, but for network =
support
> > issues would really like to dial in from the palmtop, to ping, =
telnet, etc.
> >
> > At the moment I can use epppd to connect to my local ISP, but when I =
try to
> > connect to work I get to "connect" then "ppp link down"
>
> Does the Windows RAS server use MSCHAP authentication (Microsoft's
> corruption of the CHAP standard) ?
>
> If so, (and you can't get it to use standard CHAP instead), then you
> won't be able to get EPPPD to work with it, as the CHAP support in
> EPPPD does not understand MSCHAP.

There is lot of vocabulary, which I don't understnad in deapth. The
only thing I can tell, it did work from the first time when I started
using EPPPD on my hp200lx connecting to NT 4.0 Server RAS.

Is your RAS Server setup for MS authentication or Text...?

Regards

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dialing into a Windows RAS server

"Guenther Helmuth E. writes:
> There is lot of vocabulary, which I don't understnad in deapth. The
> only thing I can tell, it did work from the first time when I started
> using EPPPD on my hp200lx connecting to NT 4.0 Server RAS.

Here's a web page that can help with the acronyms (I found this by
doing a Google search on "Win95 RAS CHAP"):

        http://www.fcr.com/MS_Article_Q16634.html

> Is your RAS Server setup for MS authentication or Text...?

By Text, I assume you mean PAP.  Note also that David will need to be
using the version of EPPPD which supports PAP/CHAP (it's in a separate
zip file in the dosppp distribution).

I'll give it a try at home tonight or at the weekend, so I can give you
some authoritative answers (instead of guessing).

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Peniel
This is what I discovered with X-Finder. I was using V 9 on a 32 meg double
speed. I tried adding icons from my icon folder by marking the icon and then
itting shift and neter (or control and enter) to icon.lzh or icon.zip in my
c:\_dat directory and a message box would pop up saying open ok, resulting in
nothing being copied. I then reinstalled X-Finder V 8 using te same Finder.env
and same Palmtop.xft files that I used in V 9. As soon as I opened X-Finder
all my application icons were there and the programs all worked fine. Very
strange. By the way, do you know where I can get a version of KMemo? Also, for
anyone interested, I have 2 Palmtop Bible disks and 1 Palmtop Bible CD of
Japanese software that I purchased when I was living in Tokyo.
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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of KMemo (A Japanese version of Memo).
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Rod,

> > Is your RAS Server setup for MS authentication or Text...?
>
> By Text, I assume you mean PAP.  Note also that David will need to be
> using the version of EPPPD which supports PAP/CHAP (it's in a separate
> zip file in the dosppp distribution).

What I used was the dosppp from your web page.

RAS Server:

When you install a RAS Server, you can select out of three different
entry, all by a mouse click.

By default MS Authentication is selected. There is only one choice with

   - Allow any authentication including clear text

Select this!

I am not aware of any PAP/CHAP selection when using NT RAS

If necessary I can provide my complete setup getting connected to NT
RAS.

The rest of the menu  which is available requires a MS device like NT
Workstation, WIN95/WIN98 or the MS network for DOS including RAS
drivers.

I did spend almost one year to get MS network for DOS/RAS it to work on
a DS, but failed to connect during authentication. No matter, if DS SS
was selected. Different drivers didn't help. The single speed unit
which I keep for testing worked fine.

> I'll give it a try at home tonight or at the weekend, so I can give you
> some authoritative answers (instead of guessing).

Sorry for not being that precise as desired.

I have a batch file which detects the modem/network card, like plug and
play - thanks to Andreas Garzotto and Stefan Peichl - and then creates
the necessary files (chatscr and pppdrc.cfg) for pppd or epppd.


Regards

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Tony,

> This is what I discovered with X-Finder. I was using V 9 on a 32 meg =
double
> speed. I tried adding icons from my icon folder by marking the icon and =
then
> itting shift and neter (or control and enter) to icon.lzh or icon.zip =
in my
> c:\_dat directory and a message box would pop up saying open ok, =
resulting in
> nothing being copied.

This is exactly my experience, which I posted end of May or beginning
of June.

I added the desired icons using lha with th switch *no compression*.


Regards

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A while back I got Turbo C 2.0, Assembler and Debugger with the following
manuals:

  Turbo C User's Guide
  Turbo Assembler User's Guide
  Turbo Debugger User's Guide

  Turbo Assembler Reference Guide

I think I am missing the Turbo C Reference Guide. Is there also a Turbo C
Debugger Reference Guide? Does any one have such that they would want to
sell/trade for other old DOS software? I have a long list!

Does anyone have Turbo C version 1 to sell/trade?

Bob Meyer
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Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:30:00 -0400 (EDT)

02h20m23s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> Peniel
> This is what I discovered with X-Finder. I was using V 9 on a 32 meg =
double
> speed.

I'm using a 8M 2x machine running XF R.9   Works for me.

> I tried adding icons from my icon folder by marking the icon and then
> itting shift and neter (or control and enter) to icon.lzh or icon.zip =
in my
> c:\_dat directory and a message box would pop up saying open ok, =
resulting in
> nothing being copied.

Ahhh...  Maybe this is another case of my not explaining things
clearly.  Did you hit İEnter¨ when the "Open/OK" box popped up?  It's
my fault I forgot to mention that.  8-(   I just do it automatically.
Also - if using the shortcut, DO NOT change directories after marking.
I just tried this again, and it works - even if the source is another
.lzh file...

I then reinstalled X-Finder V 8 using te same Finder.env
> and same Palmtop.xft files that I used in V 9. As soon as I opened =
X-Finder
> all my application icons were there and the programs all worked fine. =
Very
> strange.

Strange indeed.  Is it possible that your copy of R.9 has been
corrupted?  Seems very odd that R.8 works OK but not R.9   Like I wrote
R.9 works fine for me.  I think you said it worked for you until you
had a crash...

> By the way, do you know where I can get a version of KMemo?

Sorry.  Actually this is the first I even heard of it.

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01h30m51s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> > I tried adding icons from my icon folder by marking the icon and then
> > itting shift and neter (or control and enter) to icon.lzh or icon.zip =
in my
> > c:\_dat directory and a message box would pop up saying open ok, =
resulting in
> > nothing being copied.
>
> This is exactly my experience, which I posted end of May or beginning
> of June.
>
> I added the desired icons using lha with th switch *no compression*.

Hmmm...  A couple of things.  Does your finder.env include the lines?:

.icn    ,stm    ,lha a -z %a0 %c
        ,scm    ,lha a -z %g0 %c

The switches may be mst and msc on yours - the order doesn't matter.
These are the lines that do the shortcut copying to icon.lzh and/or
iconfld.lzh

If you're using .zip files instead of .lzh for your primary icon
archives, this won't work.  The -z parameter in both lines specifies
"no compression".

HTH

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:43:52 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:
ga>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?

Nope

ga>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?

Nope

ga>  - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
ga>    you dropped it?

Nope

ga>  - ..., so you dropped it?

Nope

ga>  - are still experimenting with it?

Yes

ga>  - are still trying to get used to it?

Yes

ga>  - use it?

Exclusively as a PIM/TODO. It took some getting used to and there were
a few conflicts (datekey TSR) and I _know_ I don't have a complete
grasp of all the functionality. I love the search and filtering
capabilities, it's nice to be able to keep seperate files for notes and
access them quickly and I had no problems using PGP, after I accounted
for the extra memory requirements, so I can keep files encrypted and
quickly open/decrypt them. Great to have it interface with my e-mail
setup so easily too.
I'm still working on hierarchies, the documentation was not clear
enough for me and it seems to me that some functions work slightly
differently than documented. That may be due to my setup and for the
price I paid I can't complain. All-in-all, steep learning curve but
very useful to me. Nice job, I am very appreciative.

Regards,

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> What if you "randomly" gave them my SSN and your name? Do
> you consider that false identity? You can't really be that
> naive? What if the FBI shows up at my door and ask questions?
> Should I tell them about you? Do you consider that the
> "randonm" number may be someone else's number? Are you really
> seriously thinking that giving someone else's number is is not
> a false identity? Sheesh!

When I provide my name, mailing address and phone number, providing a fake
number does not seem to me like a false identity.  So yes, I am seriously
thinking that.   Check the SSN FAQ recently mentioned.  Random numbers do
not a SSN make. The numbers have specific meaning, just as they do for a
bank account, for example.  The first 3 numbers, for example, refer to the
place you got your card from.  If what you say is true, one could rob a bank
anywhere in the world by providing random numbers electronically!  The SSN
con artists *have* to make sure that their fake cards are believable
(because the numbers have meaning), otherwise they would not be successful.
Another example, try punching in random numbers when you are asked to
provide a calling card number by the phone company, when calling long
distance.  It doesn't work unless you have an idea of what kind of numbers
to type (although I think in this case the meaning of the numbers is
different from the above).

Besides, I already admitted to the list to providing bad advice (naive, if
you please), so it sounds to me from your post that you must still have jet
lag from your recent trip.

All the best,

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We just purchased 100 Zoom Pocket 14.4 modems with custom cable for the
200LX.  It is powered by a 9 Volt battery. It has 4 LED lights (LB, RD, SD,
MR) in front.

I have been powering it with a 200LX charger. (Does anyone know if this is a
problem).

They came without manuals.  Does anyone have a manual they can loan me?

I want to write up some documentation based on the manual and stuff we've
published in the HP PALMTOP PAPER for end users that we will resell to.
Anyone know of a useful web site.

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Hal,
I have the manual for Megahertz pocket modem 14/4 which I have used with
the connectivity cable...is there any generic info it might provide?

JohnCarlo

At 09:47 AM 7/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>We just purchased 100 Zoom Pocket 14.4 modems with custom cable for the
>200LX.  It is powered by a 9 Volt battery. It has 4 LED lights (LB, RD, SD,
>MR) in front.
>
>I have been powering it with a 200LX charger. (Does anyone know if this is a
>problem).
>
>They came without manuals.  Does anyone have a manual they can loan me?
>
>I want to write up some documentation based on the manual and stuff we've
>published in the HP PALMTOP PAPER for end users that we will resell to.
>Anyone know of a useful web site.
>
>Thanks
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> What is accounting with balance? I assume you don't mean balancing the amount
> after all the transactions are entered?

I believe he means "double-entry accounting" ...where assets are balanced
against liabilities plus equity. This relationship is typically reported on a
"balance sheet". (It was right after this that I fell asleep in my college
Management Accounting course.)

And I don't believe Quicken does this, though I don't actually use Quicken so I
may be grossly mistaken.

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Does anyone know of other EMAIL sites that work in the same format as
HPLX.
More specifically HAM RADIO or ELECTRONICS related... RECEIVING Mail
in this FASHION works out well for me...

Thanks!
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> HI there you all, perhaps someone out there has a map of the mexican subway
> sistem (metro) tha can be seen in the hp 200 lx screen and prehaps he or she
> is willing to share with one thas has to go there and wants to use it and
> not look so "tourist"

There's a nice map of the Mexico City Metro at:

http://www.nycsubway.org/transitmaps/mexcity.gif

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:12:27 EDT, "David L. De Vera" <eq_engr@JUNO.COM> =
wrote:

> Does anyone know of other EMAIL sites that work in the same format as
> HPLX.
> More specifically HAM RADIO or ELECTRONICS related... RECEIVING Mail
> in this FASHION works out well for me...

If you are speaking of email lists. One that I really enjoy and is both
technical and ham related is the QRP-L list. To subscribe, send mail to:

listproc@lehigh.edu

In the body of the message put:

SUBSCRIBE QRP-L your_name

There is some great electronic and technical information on the list as =
most
of us on the list design our own radio equipment and build our own
equipment.

Jeff

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05h10m47s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I then reinstalled X-Finder V 8 using te same Finder.env
> and same Palmtop.xft files that I used in V 9. As soon as I opened =
X-Finder
> all my application icons were there and the programs all worked fine.

I'm getting really slow lately...  "Palmtop.xft files"??  This is new
to me.  I have many .xf? files in c:\palmtop, but nothing with the .xft
extension.  I have .xfe .xff .xfm  and .xfd files.  I should change some
of these to .xfl zero-byte files.

XF R.8 could use a file with the .xpt extension with all the launch
commands, but it didn't work with R.9 - at least for me.

Somewhat confused...

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Stephen,

> Does anybody on the list use the built-in Quicken for real business
> accounting?
> I think that it is ok for personal accounting, but not for business
> accounting.
> I got my own little company and always did my accounting with a good =
little
> Windows program. If it is possible to carry the accounting in my =
pocket,
> it would be very nice! If the built-in Quicken enables me to do double
> accounting and export the data to a usable format (CSV etc.), I'll give =
it
> a try.

I use it for personal affairs - not for double booking. I think it is
possible however as you may setup different accounts as well as
different categories to bring order to your financials. A good Quicken
book should get you on the road there.

The report generator of PQ is poor/unusable but generates ASCII text in
two different kind of lists (out of my head). I do all my reports with
QW4.5 on my labtop. Sync with CPACK200 is great but you should not use
Umlauts in your text - I had some troubles during sync because of that.

There is a possibility to export *.QIF format which is supposed to be
the standard for financial packages like *.DXF for CAD. I have not
played with it and don't know if it is similar to CSV.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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With V 9 I was able to use the Palmtop.xpt file. Sorry, it was a typo. In V 8
my icons work fine.
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Paul Yarnell wrote:
> Exclusively as a PIM/TODO. It took some getting used to and there were
> a few conflicts (datekey TSR)

What is "datekey" doing?

> I'm still working on hierarchies, the documentation was not clear
> enough for me and it seems to me that some functions work slightly
> differently than documented.

Can you be more specific about what is missing/misleading? I would like
to improve the docs.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Rod Whitby wrote:
> I just wanted to publicly say that this driver is (in my personal
> opinion) the best thing for the HP200LX since Mack's last driver (the
> BIOS message killer).

Fully agree!

> I've beta tested this new ethernet driver and it works well with LXTCP,
> replacing the op2216 program from the lxether3.zip file on SUPER.

I have beta tested it too and experienced no problems with the same
setting, but WWW/LX instead of LXTCP.

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A couple to times, I've seen reference to a web site with modem setup
screens.  Does anyone remember the URL?

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Hi friends,

is there any way to save the current path in a DOS environment variable
with any command in a batch file?

(something like SET CURRDIR=<current directory>)?

It was good to save the current directory when changing to another one
temporarily to execute commands there and after that to switch back to
the original directory.

TNX
daniel

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All,

I just put New deal office on an old 286 notebook, and actually got it
surfing the web,
which is definitely new to it!  The software needs a 286 or better, but im
curious if
anyone has tried to run it on an HP 80186 handheld?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Daniel,

> is there any way to save the current path in a DOS environment variable
> with any command in a batch file?

I didn't find any particular command. I do a work around with two
files, which create another file:

Path_ch0.bat:

cd

note a space after cd: "cd "

Path_sto.bat

@echo off
@copy c:\bat\path_ch0.txt c:\bat\path_tmp.bat
@cd >> c:\bat\path_tmp.bat

First I call path_sto; this stores the present path into path_tmp.

To restore the path I call path_tmp.

This is a workaround, not a clever written program. I hope it helps
you.

Regards

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Greetings to All,

I'm using RS 850 mAh NiCd on the 4 MB 200LX with Simple Tech 40 MB Flash.  I used to be able to
get about 7-8 hours out of a freshly charged pair of battery.  However, the low battery beep now
occurs at about 3-4 hours into use.  I have determined that the voltage reading of the main
battery as measured by the lxstat and battlog seems to be about 0.1 V below what I measured
at the battery terminals using DMM.

Have any one seen this problem? Is there a software solution to fix the DAC error?  Thank you
in advance.

Best Regards,
Alfred Lee

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:03:08 -0400
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Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:32:37 -0400 (EDT)

04h24m29s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> With V 9 I was able to use the Palmtop.xpt file. Sorry, it was a typo. =
In V 8
> my icons work fine.

No need to apologize for a typo - I make plenty of those  8-)

I'm curious how you managed to use the palmtop.xpt with version 9.  As
I recall, when I changed from 8 to 9, I tried the same .env file.  Not
sure what happened, but it probably WAS the blank opening screen.  Now
I'm using the .xfe .xff etc files in c:/palmtop.  Could be put into a
.lzh file to save space, but that hides the time/date info I use to
arrange the order of icons.  Setting the order was simple with .xpt but
the other way allows the use of the .xff symbolic links.

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:41:12 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Battery DAC error and low battery

My plamtop once used to run down the batteries quick. I was told to remove
all batteries, including the backup battery and let it sit overnight (back
up c: first). I restored everything and that seemed to work.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alfred Lee, Mail List Account İmailto:pc@MDS.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 4:57 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Battery DAC error and low battery
>
>
> Greetings to All,
>
> I'm using RS 850 mAh NiCd on the 4 MB 200LX with Simple Tech
> 40 MB Flash.  I used to be able to
> get about 7-8 hours out of a freshly charged pair of battery.
>  However, the low battery beep now
> occurs at about 3-4 hours into use.  I have determined that
> the voltage reading of the main
> battery as measured by the lxstat and battlog seems to be
> about 0.1 V below what I measured
> at the battery terminals using DMM.
>
> Have any one seen this problem? Is there a software solution
> to fix the DAC error?  Thank you
> in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alfred Lee
>
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Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:40:49 -0400 (EDT)

44m15s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Alfred Lee, Mail List Account wrote:

> I'm using RS 850 mAh NiCd on the 4 MB 200LX with Simple Tech 40 MB =
Flash.
> I used to be able to get about 7-8 hours out of a freshly charged pair =
of
> battery.  However, the low battery beep now occurs at about 3-4 hours =
into
> use.

Loss of capacity happens to most rechargeables when they are repeatedly
partially discharged before charging.  Capacity can usually be restored
by removing them and completely discharging, then recharging.

> I have determined that the voltage reading of the main battery as
> measured by the lxstat and battlog seems to be about 0.1 V below what I
> measured at the battery terminals using DMM.
>
> Have any one seen this problem? Is there a software solution to fix the
> DAC error?  Thank you in advance.

It's more likely a software error than an ADC error.  LXStat does give
low readings.  The palmtop has only a 6-bit ADC with approximately 27mV
resolution.  Also are these simultaneous readings under load (LXStat
and your DMM)?

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:04:22 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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As You asked, I will tell my story:

>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?

Yes I found it to hard to set up. I was going to look at it out of =
interest as I am very pleased with all Your work (thanks for the DHCP, IR =
and all the little goodies. It is realy this kinda progs that makes me =
stick to my hp. Its Your programs that let my hp work with the new =
tecnology around us.).

>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?

I am pleased with the built in PIM. And realy did not see the advantage =
to ad another that only consumed disk space.

>  - are still experimenting with it?

I have heard about some pleased user and will try it again. I never got =
it to work. I had totaly missed the ctrl enter part.

Thanks for al Your efforts!

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Dear Peniel,

Thanks for the quick response.

I don't think it is due to the loss of capacity because I have had my HP and battlog
for a few years already.  I have seen enough of the curve plotted by battlog and it
does not look like a end of discharge.  The battery measurement is made under
load while the HP is on and on battery power.

My understanding is that the ADC is referenced to a reference voltage.  If the
reference voltage were to be off, the ADC reading would accordingly off.

Best Regards,
Alfred


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Subject:        Re: Battery DAC error and low battery

Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:40:49 -0400 (EDT)

44m15s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Alfred Lee, Mail List Account wrote:

> I'm using RS 850 mAh NiCd on the 4 MB 200LX with Simple Tech 40 MB Flash.
> I used to be able to get about 7-8 hours out of a freshly charged pair of
> battery.  However, the low battery beep now occurs at about 3-4 hours into
> use.

Loss of capacity happens to most rechargeables when they are repeatedly
partially discharged before charging.  Capacity can usually be restored
by removing them and completely discharging, then recharging.

> I have determined that the voltage reading of the main battery as
> measured by the lxstat and battlog seems to be about 0.1 V below what I
> measured at the battery terminals using DMM.
>
> Have any one seen this problem? Is there a software solution to fix the
> DAC error?  Thank you in advance.

It's more likely a software error than an ADC error.  LXStat does give
low readings.  The palmtop has only a 6-bit ADC with approximately 27mV
resolution.  Also are these simultaneous readings under load (LXStat
and your DMM)?

-Peniel
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Is the pcmcia slot powered down when there is no card in there?

The subject says it all. TIA

John

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Peniel
When I used the Palmtop.XPT file with V 9 I didn't do any modification to the
Finder.ENV file but somehow every time I added an application to the XPT file
it worked just fine. I switched back to V 8 until I can figure out the icon
problem.
Thanks
Tony

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              there?
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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> The subject says it all. TIA

You mean, is there power available to the pins when there is no card in
there, so if you were trying to power something off the 5V or 12V lines,
would it still work if there wasn't a card inserted?

Hmm, good question.  I know the PCMCIA port has no power to it when the
machine itself is off, but I don't know about the port having power when
no card is inserted.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:20:28 -0400
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From:         Ron Burnett <ronburnett@CSI.COM>
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Try
  http://www.onelist.com
and
  http://www.egroups.com
or
  http://www.egroup.com

There are plenty of lists there.

Ron


> Does anyone know of other EMAIL sites that work in the same format as
> HPLX.
> More specifically HAM RADIO or ELECTRONICS related... RECEIVING Mail
> in this FASHION works out well for me...
>

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              Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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From:         Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: old technology (HP12C)
Comments: To: king@CHARLIE.CNS.IIT.EDU

> HP decides to keep the 12C (but drops the rest of the line)

Too bad.  The 11C was the most elegant hand calculator ever made.  I
saw an ad for it in the student paper, jumped out of my chair, ran over
to the bookstore and bought one on the spot.

Sadly, it got stolen, so I bought a 16C (because I do computer work.)
The 16C was a piece of junk.  It got stolen (I barely minded), so I
bought a 15C.  It got stolen before I'd even finished reading the
manual.

Finally, I wrote an 11C emulator to run under Sunview (later ported it
to Xview.)  They can't steal that.

Still, if I found an 11C at a garage sale, I'd buy it in an instant.
Finest hand calculator ever made.

The 200LX is pretty nice, but its calculator mode sucks.

        -ed falk

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Ed Falk wrote:

> Finally, I wrote an 11C emulator to run under Sunview (later ported it
> to Xview.)  They can't steal that.
>
> Still, if I found an 11C at a garage sale, I'd buy it in an instant.
> Finest hand calculator ever made.
>
> The 200LX is pretty nice, but its calculator mode sucks.

So... would it be possible to write an 11C emulator for the 200LX?

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:21:34 -0400 (EDT)

01h31m45s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Alfred Lee, Mail List Account wrote:

> I have seen enough of the curve plotted by battlog and it
> does not look like a end of discharge.

You may be right.  Check the battlog plot with min/max - you may see a
single spike dropping to a low voltage.  If the HP finds this short dip
too low, it'll give a warning.

> My understanding is that the ADC is referenced to a reference voltage. =

> If the reference voltage were to be off, the ADC reading would
> accordingly off.

True.  There's also an offset of 1.57 volts.  The ADC scale is from 0
at 1.57 volts to 63 at 3.30 volts.  An error is possible, but usually
voltage references are pretty stable.

Regards

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:03:54 -0600
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Stephan;

I think you may be referring to "double-entry accounting"  So-called
because each transaction requires two entries in order to keep the
income statements, etc. balanced and correct.  You could use Quicken for
accounting , but I think it would be fairly clumsy and not work very
well.  But, good luck, anyway.

I have a business accounting program called Clear Profit that I'm going
to try out on the Palmtop, I'll let you know what happens.

Regards,
Richard Smith

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Stephan Goeldi wrote:

 Subject:        Re: Quicken Help
   Date:        Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:10:03 +0200
  From:        Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>


Hallo all

I found the word for my 'double accounting':  I meant 'balance' I want
to do accounting with balance. Is this possible with the
built-in Quicken?

-goe-

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:41:47 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Alain,

Well it seems a bit much but not when you consider that it has a $30 custom short cable to make it all very compact plus the proper software drivers and instructions all in a complete package.  YMMV (G)   =Bob=

> I'm looking for one Newton Keyboard,
> but US$100 is a bit to much money for me.
> regards
> Alain

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Hal,

The Zoom inialization string is very simple, I just use AT W2 M0.  The M0 just kills the starting sounds which saves my ears and some battery juice.  W2 gives me connect speed.  That's it.    =Bob=

> A couple to times, I've seen reference to a web site with modem setup
> screens.  Does anyone remember the URL?

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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Try www.modemdoctor.com

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:29:28 +0930
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Subject:      Re: New Accton Ethernet Driver

Mack Baggette writes:
> For those interested I have developed a new Accton Ethernet card driver that
> stays resident after being loaded.

In other news just to hand, I've just managed to disassemble the
pd2216.com driver (which is derived from GPL'd code, and so BY LAW the
source code should already be available), and determine the difference
between it and the standard ne2000.com driver, and then insert the
difference back into the source code.  After recompilation, the
resulting en2216.com file matches the old pd2216.com file.  I'll now be
removing any non-palmtop-relevant code to make it even smaller than it
is now, and will release it as open source in the near future.

So now we have the full source code base for running TCP/IP
applications on the palmtop using the Accton ethernet card.  All we
need is the source code to EPPPD, and we're completely future-proof.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:13:24 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is the pcmcia slot powered down when there is no card in
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.05.9907221614500.5032-100000@home.hplx.net> from
              "David Sargeant" at Jul 22, 99 04:16:08 pm
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> Hmm, good question.  I know the PCMCIA port has no power to it when the
> machine itself is off, but I don't know about the port having power when
> no card is inserted.

Just a point of semantics here...
You have to have both voltage and a flow of current to consume power.
So, ignoring any quiescent power consumed by the PCMCIA port electronics,
power that is consumed anyway whether or not a card is inserted, if you
don't have a card plugged in to draw current, there won't be any power
consumed.  Now you seemed to be asking maybe if there is any *voltage*
present on the connector pins when the card is removed?  That I have
no idea about....

-Chris

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please take me off list

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Regarding double-entry accounting and the Clear Profit program on the
Palmtop:

Clear Profit seems to work fine.  Although it takes almost 4 MB, I was
able to run it with no problems.
So, I have two copies, anybody want one - or both?  Tell me what you
think would be a reasonable price.

Richard

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:13:24 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> Just a point of semantics here...

It's a *very* valid point. So many people have trouble understanding the
difference between voltage and current. I guess I am a geek because I do
understand it, but my poor brother who is studying for his ham ticket is
having a hard time grasping the idea.

73 de Jeff

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:13:24 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Just a point of semantics here...
>
> It's a *very* valid point. So many people have trouble understanding the
> difference between voltage and current. I guess I am a geek because I do
> understand it, but my poor brother who is studying for his ham ticket is
> having a hard time grasping the idea.

That's because we're all corrupted by "power" switches on consumer
electronics.  It's a conspiracy, I'm telling you...

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>  - are still experimenting with it?

<delurk>

I echo what EdP said in that I have not RTFM but I do appreciate the
opportunity to experiment.  Additionally, your rational & logic to
write PIM/PE vs. continued use of Internal PIMs, Agenda, etc. are
exactly correct for my way of working on this DOS platform.

Specifically, PIM/PE w/ cut & paste access and working w/ ASCII files
is a great benefit for my PIM needs.  I will continue to experiment
and then run a few of my projects in it as a next step.  More feedback
to follow.

Thanks for the all the great software and for participating on this
list.

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> I know that quite a few people have downloaded and tried the PIM
> extensions of PE, but so far I have no idea if anyone is actually
> *using* it.

i am still experimenting with it.  I don't have time yet to
"jump in" and try it as my only PIM, so I am just playing around
with it for now.  I will probably start using it as a
replacement for my NoteTaker file full of misc. notes and bits
of information.

I am also still "playing around" with Lotus Agenda as well.

PS, if this works, it will be my first post here using WWW/LX.

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> is there any way to save the current path in a DOS environment variable
> with any command in a batch file?

Daniel,
I use PUSHDIR.COM and POPDIR.COM for this purpose.  They are o-l-d DOS
utilities from PC Magazine that I've been using for years on my desktop
and now my LX too.  They are only about 700 bytes in size each. They
don't record in the environment but the first use of PUSHDIR creates a
small stack in low ram that allows several levels of directories to be
saved.

Examples:
To initialize the stack early I put this in my Autoexec.Bat...

PUSHDIR
POPDIR

This is how I typically use them...

PUSHDIR
C:
PUSHDIR
CD \WWWLX
.\www.exe -d "!post"
POPDIR
POPDIR


If you're interested send me an email and I'll send them to you.  If
others are interested I'll package them in a Zip and send it to Mitch
for the SUPER site.

cheers... Russ

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> please take me off list
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  Please take _yourself_ off the list...

  See that URL (web page address) at the bottom of your message?  It's on
almost every message you get from this list.  Go there.  There's a web page
that you can use to remove yourself from this list in less time than it took
for me to type this.

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I tried your suggestion to use epppdd (with an extra d), but it gave me "bad
command and file name". Why?
How do you change the serial port to 38400? The highest I can set using
"mode com1: baud= xxxx" is 9600. I use MSD to
I'd make sure that the eppp.cfg also use the same speed, but still I
encounter error during download. I'll try other ISP....

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:17:45 -0400
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> I know that quite a few people have downloaded and tried the PIM
> extensions of PE, but so far I have no idea if anyone is actually
> *using* it. Did you download it, check it out and
>
>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?
>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?
>  - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
>    you dropped it?
>  - ..., so you dropped it?
>  - are still experimenting with it?
>  - are still trying to get used to it?
>  - use it?

I find it an excellent piece of work and I will switch completely in
August. I have some issues which I will adress as soon as I feel more
comfortable assuming that you are open for suggestions. Currently I'm
constantly playing around with PIM/PE while AppMgr still does the
majority of my task management.


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Helmuth,

> I like to encourage everybody, who ever used PE to spend 30 minutes to
> get started. It is worthwhile and the more you get used to it the more
> you can't live without it on your hp200lx. It will cost you some time,
> but finally it will save you a lot of time in your daily work.

These are exactly my expectations - first you have to plant the seed,
then grow it and then harvest 8-)

I was playing with Agenda a while ago - if you compare memory
requirements, speed ... it really is an interesting piece of work.
Especially as most of PIM related stuff is editing and PE is a
marvellous editor.

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When you tell Freecell to randomly deal the cards, does it look at the
solved/unsolved games and deal a random hand that isn't one of the solved =
or
unsolved games?

Jeff

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I had downloaded, installed, and played with the PE/PIM combination and
wanted to relate my experience.

I downloaded it and installed it a few weeks ago.  I take the train to and
from work so I spent a lot of time playing with it.  I have been through the
manual a couple of times.  The second time I went through it, I picked up a
number of points I had not picked up before.

I had all the other problems others had described.  Took me a day to figure
out the Cntrl-Enter trick.  Some of the behavior was not as described.  I
just recently discovered that I did not have grep on my machine so that may
explain some of that.

The thing that I have not quite figured out is: when I hit cntrl-Enter,
exactly what files are parsed and results displayed from.  Is it the files
in memory or pim files on menu?  In my playing with it it feels
inconsistent.

Right now what is preventing me from switching is the following.  I have a
rule that I like a piece of software when I hit a key, I know what the
software is going to do.  I have not yet figured out the rules that PIM uses
to select the data it shows.  For example, if I add a task
"+t Write Andreas a thank you note"
and I am on that line and hit ¬Enter, I see a todo list, but I do not see
the reminder that I just wrote????  And hence I have not sent that thank you
note.  :-)

I really like the idea the software is based on.  I personally have used
just about every organizer possible for HP.  I am currently using the HP
apps because I know what happen when I hit a key.

I like the idea of organizing the data by project and putting all sorts of
info in it and being able to view the same data from different views.  Very
powerful.  I just need to figure it out.

I really appreciate your contribution to the cause and I would love to help
make it better in any way I could.
Leland

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Ed Morgan wrote:
> in appt.abd since I have invested much time setting it up and
> use IntelliSync as my secretary can enter appointments
> and I can then sync with it.

What other program do you sync it with?

> Also, I use the F6 in Paledit to view files I am currently
> working on.

This of course works independent of the PIM stuff (and I only found out
how useful it is after I implemented it :-)

Thanks for your feedback!

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:52:17 GMT
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Jeff Johns wrote:

>When you tell Freecell to randomly deal the cards, does it look at the
>solved/unsolved games and deal a random hand that isn't one of the =
solved or
>unsolved games?

Only the latest version, 2.8.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:03:51 +0200
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Subject:      Somewhat offtopic. Hello all,

 I know this is off-topic, but probably someone can help. If you have
 a contact, who is an IBM employee and has been at IBM for good while
 (say 10-12 years or so) in either Mainframe or Personal Computer field
 and is probably willing to help; please contact me.

 I would like to get hold of something from circa 1984, called:
 IBM Virtual Machine/Personal Computer (VM/PC) Licenced Program (5669-001)
 Release 1.0 and 1.1 These are based on VM/SP Release 2.

 This this is related to my hobby: collecting old PC hardware. I got hold
 of barebone IBM PC XT/370 and AT/370, which need above SW to function.
 It basically turns a desktop PC into a limited S/370 machine if you have
 the three add-on cards installed with the MC68000 CPUs.

     Thank you in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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hi bob,
It's not I'm trying to bargain it,
It's juste US$100 is more than I can offer for the moment,
even I really need a biger Keyboard.
:(
regards
Alain
> Alain,
>
> Well it seems a bit much but not when you consider that it has a $30 custom short cable to make it all very compact plus the proper software drivers and instructions all in a complete package.  YMMV (G)   =Bob=
>
> > I'm looking for one Newton Keyboard,
> > but US$100 is a bit to much money for me.
> > regards
> > Alain
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:10:04 -0400
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Welcome Steve,

> I am also still "playing around" with Lotus Agenda as well.

Stopped Agenda for PE/PIM. Agenda is ~1.6 MByte and slow - even on a
DS. Gets worse when your datafile increases in size.

PE is ~70 kByte and PIM is ~ 60 kByte. Datafiles are ASCII and not
proprietory as with Agenda - so everything is much more flexible.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:00:48 -0400
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Is there a utility that can resize the size of the RAM Disk, without
having to go into Setup?  I only have a 1MB machine, and I would like
to use my Ethernet card occasionally, to grab e-mail into my RAM drive,
then reboot, copy the files back to my flash card, delete the files
from the RAM drive, and resize the RAM Disk.

Seems like a simple task, but I don't know of a utility that would do
such a trick.  Has anyone written such a small program or macro???
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:12:28 +0100
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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> I am pleased with the built in PIM.

So you'd better stick with them. I "grew out" of the built-ins and
needed more power in certain areas (such as links between different
kinds of data, more flexible data entry, better weekly view,
categorizing appointments and todos, searches across different files) and
that's why I use PIM/PE. If it works for you, i.e. if it is not broken, don't
fix it!

Thanks for your feedback!

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:12:30 +0100
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Steve Carder wrote:
> PS, if this works, it will be my first post here using WWW/LX.

No, did not work :-) Congratulations!

And thanks for your feedback re: PIM/PE

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Ian Gifford wrote:
> is a great benefit for my PIM needs.  I will continue to experiment
> and then run a few of my projects in it as a next step.  More feedback
> to follow.

Thanks! And good luck with experimenting. If you need functionality
that is not yet in there, let me know.

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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> I have some issues which I will adress as soon as I feel more
> comfortable assuming that you are open for suggestions.

Sure I am open for suggestions! I cannot promise that I will implement
all suggestions, but I am very much interested in how other people use
it (I can learn from that) and improving it so that it fits to other
peoples needs (as long as those needs are not of the "more colors" or
"nicer shaped buttons" kind <G>).

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:12:31 +0100
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Leland_Hambley@INTUIT.COM Hambley, Leland wrote:
> Some of the behavior was not as described.

Could you please let me know what was not as described. I would like to
improve the docs.

> The thing that I have not quite figured out is: when I hit cntrl-Enter,
> exactly what files are parsed and results displayed from.

All the files located in the directory that is specified with Data= in
the İPIM¨ section of PIM.CFG.

I hope that information helps for your other problems too.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Andreas,

> Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> > I have some issues which I will adress as soon as I feel more
> > comfortable assuming that you are open for suggestions.
>
> Sure I am open for suggestions! I cannot promise that I will implement
> all suggestions, but I am very much interested in how other people use
> it (I can learn from that) and improving it so that it fits to other
> peoples needs (as long as those needs are not of the "more colors" or
> "nicer shaped buttons" kind <G>).

Same with me here!

Regards

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Rod,

> So now we have the full source code base for running TCP/IP
> applications on the palmtop using the Accton ethernet card.  All we
> need is the source code to EPPPD, and we're completely future-proof.

All my respect!


Regards

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:56:57 +0800
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I have a new DS 32MB unit with Times2Tech NiMH batteries installed. I use
ABC/LX to monitor the battery voltage and charging process, using the
default parameters given in the documentation.

The voltage as shown by ABC/LX does not go beyond 2.92 volts. Also, I see
that even if the unit is not used, the voltage drops within a few hours to
2.7X volts. I do not believe that I am getting the battery life that this
combination is reputed to give.

Where could I be going wrong? Any suggestions??

TIA

Anand.

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Hi
I configured cc.mail to access palmtop.com email
For a modem speed of 14.4,I chose 19,200baud,as I think recommended in the
HPLX list recently.
When connecting(F10),and selecting palmtop.com as Host,the 200lx froze very
badly,giving the error message
"internal Stack Overflow--System Halted"
I unfroze things,checked the configuration again,and the same thing happened
again.
Tech support at palmtop.com hadn't seen this happen before------has anyone
else figured it out ?
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To who may this concern:
                        Thanks for all the mails but it is taking up huge
spaces in my mailbox. Please kindly remove my e-mail address from your
mailing list. Sorry for the inconveniences.



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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:25:54 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

ga> What is "datekey" doing?

     Datekey uses a yymmdd-ddmmyy-mmddyy format without hyphens and
     uses that format for every Fn-date keypress. This seems to be
     incompatable with what PIM expects to see. It may be fixable in
     the cfg but I just REMed it out to fix.

ga> > I'm still working on hierarchies, the documentation was not clear
ga> > enough for me and it seems to me that some functions work slightly
ga> > differently than documented.
ga>
ga> Can you be more specific about what is missing/misleading? I would =
like
ga> to improve the docs.

     I'm still not sure:
     If I have a top level category and some sub-categorys, does an
     entey have to have both? if so which order? How do I view
     categories in hierarchy order?
     I am figuring all this out and I know it is in the help file and I
     have gained some clarity since I wrote the above, but a simple
     explination with small words would have made it easier for me :¬¨

     One other thing I've noticed; the doc says that pending alarms
     will show when PIM is opened but they don't. They do flash by,
     quicker than I can read, when PIM is closed. It would be nice if
     I could check from within PIM, I'm wrote a bat that lets me
     check from PE but can't figure out how to do it from PIM.

ga> Thanks for your feedback!

     De Nada

     Regards,

     Paul

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:00:14 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Times2Tech batteries- sudden voltage dips
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Anand,

First, a disclaimer: I'm an NiMH Newbie, having spent nearly all of my LX
life on NiCads.  But I now have two sets of NiMHs from two different
manufacturers, and have been using ABC/LX for the last month or so.  Based
on what I've seen so far coupled with a modest knowledge of battery
chemistries, I'm going to comment.  Anyone on the list is invited to blow
me out of the water if I'm wrong.  <Laughing>

I wouldn't be concerned about the second part -- the voltage rapidly
dropping to 2.7x volts.  The nominal voltage for a pair of NiMH batteries
will be somewhere around 2.4 volts, and NiMHs, like NiCads, have a flat
discharge slope.  What you're seeing is the first initial peak after
charging.  This rapidly drops to more like 2.5ish volts, then you should
see it remain pretty stable and slowly go towards 2.4 or so.  When it
starts dropping below 2.3 or thereabouts you're heading towards the end of
your battery charge.

Really, you'll need to run through a couple of cycles and look at the
*total* battery life, not how quickly the initial voltage drops.  That's
the only way you'll really be able to tell.  Keep in mind that ABC/LX
includes a timer that shows you how many hours you got from your battery;
when you finish a charge, reset it to zero and see what you get when it's
time to recharge.

As to the first question, I can't say much about peak charge levels.  I
have noticed that the set I'm using now - which are 1.5AH batteries - don't
charge as high as the previous set which was 1.3AH, so maybe it is tied to
capacity.  Others with more NiMH experience should probably comment on
this, but I will say that 2.92 volts is *generally* in the peak range
you'll see on a NiMH charge.  Keep in mind too that the A/D converter in
the LX series doesn't have a lot of resolution, and if you're just on "this
side" of a bit transition when the battery stalls that may give you a
slightly lower reading than you'd expect.

The bottom line is, I'd suggest getting some time and experience on the
batteries before you try to reach any conclusions about their usable life.
NiMHs may be a little different from what you may have used in the past,
and therefore take some getting used to.

Rick

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On 7/23/99 at 3:56 PM Anand Rao wrote:

>I have a new DS 32MB unit with Times2Tech NiMH batteries installed. I use
>ABC/LX to monitor the battery voltage and charging process, using the
>default parameters given in the documentation.
>
>The voltage as shown by ABC/LX does not go beyond 2.92 volts. Also, I see
>that even if the unit is not used, the voltage drops within a few hours to
>2.7X volts. I do not believe that I am getting the battery life that this
>combination is reputed to give.
>
>Where could I be going wrong? Any suggestions??
>
>TIA
>
>Anand.
>
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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:56:57 +0800, Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> =
wrote:

sl> The voltage as shown by ABC/LX does not go beyond 2.92 volts. Also, I =
see
sl> that even if the unit is not used, the voltage drops within a few =
hours to
sl> 2.7X volts. I do not believe that I am getting the battery life that =
this
sl> combination is reputed to give.
sl>
sl> Where could I be going wrong? Any suggestions??
The max voltage on the graph varies with the "stop fast charging "
value you set in configure ABCTSR i.e. the higher you set the value the
higher the max voltage. It is normal for voltage to drop after you
complete a charge, as you charge, the batteries heat up and internal
resistance goes up, so to maintain charging current, voltage goes up
extra to compensate. Heat is a major factor in batteries losing
capacity so continuing charging when the batteries are full may reduce
life. Opinions vary, I read on a battery website (can't remember which
one) that NIMH batteries weren't damaged when charging current was 10%
or less than capacity so I don't worry too much about charging in my
palmtop, but it is still a good idea to limit time at fast charge after
voltage stops going up. NiCads are apparently more sensitive to heat
damage.

HTH

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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:56:57 +0800, Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> =
wrote:

> The voltage as shown by ABC/LX does not go beyond 2.92 volts. Also, I =
see
> that even if the unit is not used, the voltage drops within a few hours =
to
> 2.7X volts. I do not believe that I am getting the battery life that =
this
> combination is reputed to give.

I believe that is a description typical to all of the machines. It, at
least, describes mine perfectly and I get pretty good battery life.

Jeff

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           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:30:04 -0400
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Message text written by Jeff Johns
>but my poor brother who is studying for his ham ticket is
having a hard time grasping the idea.<

Voltage is "how high the plane is when you jump": current is "how fast
you're falling, or how fast the ground is coming up to meet you". =

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:35:22 -0400
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Peniel
using V 8 of X-Finder I do have the lines:
.icn ,stm ,lha a -z %a0 %c
,scm ,lha a -z %g0 %c
However, if I mark an icon and want to opy it to either my icon.lzh or
iconfld.lzh files in my C:\_dat or A:\_\dat  directores it doesn't copy.
Tony

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:48:47 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: DOS environment question
In-Reply-To:  <199907230340.DAA116980@out4.ibm.net> from "Russel Brooks" at Jul
              23, 99 03:40:59 am
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> > is there any way to save the current path in a DOS environment variable
> > with any command in a batch file?

Russ:

I would like to get a copy of the referenced push/pop utility.  I have
a similar pair of programs that I wrote last year.  I just finished
cleaning them up a little, and will post them if someone wants.  The
PUSH is just a batch file, that records the current directory in a
file called DIRSTACK.DAT in the C:\_DAT directory.  It optionally
changes you to another directory if specified on the command line
(just like the bbehaviour of the UNIX and Windows NT pushd and popd
commands).  POP was a little more challenging - it uses a combination
of a small C program (POPD.C) and a batch file, POP.BAT.  It isn't
lightning fast, but isn't offensively slow, either.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:53:55 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      OFF TOPIC - W98 Filename Completion - SOLVED
Content-Type: text

Thanks to Daniel Hertrich, list member, I now have filename completion
on my home Win98 machine.  The utility he uses on his palmtop, DOSED,
seems to work on Win98.  (The utility that *I* use on my palmtop,
CMDEDIT, does *NOT* work on Win98, although it did on Win95 and
marginally on WinNT).  So Thanks, Daniel.  He didn't tell me where
one can find the program ... maybe it's available on the Simtel
archives?

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:36:57 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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          <industrial_projects@technologist.com>
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<<Please let me know when you are ready to sell 8-) and most
importantly how much <G>.>>

You can order them now at orders@thaddeus.com, fax 515 472 1879, phone
800-373-6114 or 515 472 6330. They will be on our web site next week, when
will be ready to ship out.

We will sell them for $99.95.  The custom cable is an additional $29.95.
(You can use the Connectivity Pack cable and adapter).  Shipping in the U.S.
is $5 for 1 or more products ordered at the same time.  Overseas, it is $12
for one or more products.

They don't come with any of the original packaging, but they look like they
were hardly used.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:50:34 +1000
Reply-To:     Tim Pitman <tpitman@southcom.com.au>
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Is there a chance, therefore, of using other NE-2000 clone network cards in
the palmtop?


> In other news just to hand, I've just managed to disassemble the
> pd2216.com driver (which is derived from GPL'd code, and so BY LAW the
> source code should already be available), and determine the difference
> between it and the standard ne2000.com driver, and then insert the
> difference back into the source code.  After recompilation, the
> resulting en2216.com file matches the old pd2216.com file.  I'll now be
> removing any non-palmtop-relevant code to make it even smaller than it
> is now, and will release it as open source in the near future.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:00:43 +0200
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Comments: To: mack@times2tech.com
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Mack,

the Accton driver works perfect with the /LX suite (www/lx and
porducts) and with LXTCP.

Thanks a lot.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:06:24 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Palmtop Paper archives on net and on CD in HTML?
Comments: cc: Ed Keefe <Ed_Keefe@thaddeus.com>
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Hi everyone.

Over the past few years many palmtop users have requested that we put the
back issues of THE HP PALMTOP PAPER at our web site, www.palmtoppaper.com
and in HTML on our annual CD Infobase.

We would be willing to do both.  (For the CD Infobase we would have both the
Hyperwriter version -- the interface that currently exists, and the HTML
version.)

Our problem is resources.  We do not have the manpower to convert it --
especially since it is more of a service to the palmtop community as opposed
to a profit generating project.

Jorgen did a great job leading a group of people, converting the
Programmer's Reference Guide to HTML.  I don't think this project would be
nearly as difficult or time consuming.

If we had volunteers, HP Palmtop Paper editor, Ed Keefe, would be willing to
take charge of the project. If you are interested, please email Ed at
ed@thaddeus.com and copy me at  hal@thaddeus.com.

Thank you.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:19:42 -0700
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
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Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
>  The custom cable is an additional $29.95.

By Custom cable do you mean a REAL serial cable that fits
the hplx's little slot?

If so can we buy the cable by itself?  And does the other
end have a 9 or 25 pin connector?

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:18:55 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Times2Tech batteries- sudden voltage dips
Comments: To: RickRae@usa.net
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Thanks, Rick,

The recommendation here some time back was to start recharging when the
voltage drops below 2.5 volts. And therefore I ended up charging the
batteries so often.  And thanks for the tip on the timers in ABC/LX. I had
seen this before, but it skipped my attention.

What is the normal expected time between charges for these batteries in a
DS RAM upgraded unit? I am concerned that the voltage drops too fast even
if the unit is not used. Maybe,as you say, it needs more 'experiencing'
from my side.


Thanks

Anand.

At 07:00 PM 23-07-99 Friday , Rick Rae wrote:
>Anand,
>
>
>I wouldn't be concerned about the second part -- the voltage rapidly
>dropping to 2.7x volts.  The nominal voltage for a pair of NiMH batteries
>will be somewhere around 2.4 volts, and NiMHs, like NiCads, have a flat
>discharge slope.  What you're seeing is the first initial peak after
>charging.  This rapidly drops to more like 2.5ish volts, then you should
>see it remain pretty stable and slowly go towards 2.4 or so.  When it
>starts dropping below 2.3 or thereabouts you're heading towards the end of
>your battery charge.
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:22:58 +0800
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Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@scott.net>
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Jeff, how much battery life do you get between charges an at what level do
you recharge them? I have set ABC/LX to start charging when the voltage <
2.5V. Do you still use Mack's batteries? I recollect a post from you some
time ago that after a long period of use you now have some other batteries
installed. In that case, do you recollect the usable hours from Mack's
batteries?

Thanks.

Anand.

At 08:15 PM 23-07-99 Friday , Jeff Johns wrote:

>
>I believe that is a description typical to all of the machines. It, at
>least, describes mine perfectly and I get pretty good battery life.
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:27:57 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual

Actually, If you already have the regular ol' serial cable you're better off
getting a 9-pin gender changer and 9-pin null modem converter from radio
shack. I've found that the addition of these two pieces allows me the
greatest serial port flexibility... and they only cost 5-6$ each.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick West İmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:20 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
>
>
> Hal Goldstein wrote:
> >
> >  The custom cable is an additional $29.95.
>
> By Custom cable do you mean a REAL serial cable that fits
> the hplx's little slot?
>
> If so can we buy the cable by itself?  And does the other
> end have a 9 or 25 pin connector?
>
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:54:56 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT)

02h43m52s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> using V 8 of X-Finder I do have the lines:
> .icn ,stm ,lha a -z %a0 %c
> ,scm ,lha a -z %g0 %c
> However, if I mark an icon and want to opy it to either my icon.lzh or
> iconfld.lzh files in my C:\_dat or A:\_\dat  directores it doesn't =
copy.

Hmmm...  Is the first entry under %a  c:\_dat\icon.lzh
and the first entry under %g          c:\_dat\iconfld.lzh  ??

The shortcut procedure defined in those two .icn lines is:

1  Mark some icons
2  Without changing directories, press İShift¨İEnter¨ or İCtrl¨İEnter¨
3  When a box pops up saying "Open  OK" hit enter

At this point a few messages should flash on the screen as LHA does its
thing...  When it stops the icons should be in the archive.

Remember NOT to switch directories.  This is a shortcut.  Regular copy
should also work in XF.  The shortcut even works for me if the source
file is also a .lzh  8-)

HTH

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:43:24 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual

I also wanted to make somments for those considering this modem. I got one a
while back from an Ebay auction and I can say that it is a very nice
addition. It's small, light-weight and has a reasonable lifespan from a 9
volt battery. It's a great alternative for those with little C: drives so
that you can keep the flash card in. The only problem is that it has no
auto-shutoff. It goes into a power saving mode but if you leave it on for a
day or so it runs down the battery.

I think it's well worth the 100 bux.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Padin İmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:28 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
>
>
> Actually, If you already have the regular ol' serial cable
> you're better off
> getting a 9-pin gender changer and 9-pin null modem converter
> from radio
> shack. I've found that the addition of these two pieces allows me the
> greatest serial port flexibility... and they only cost 5-6$ each.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick West İmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:20 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
> >
> >
> > Hal Goldstein wrote:
> > >
> > >  The custom cable is an additional $29.95.
> >
> > By Custom cable do you mean a REAL serial cable that fits
> > the hplx's little slot?
> >
> > If so can we buy the cable by itself?  And does the other
> > end have a 9 or 25 pin connector?
> >
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:40:10 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Peniel,
I've downloaded x-finder a couple of times in the last month and played
around with it a bit. But I still don't "get it", and I end up deleting
it.
What is the advantage to using x-finder?

        Steve

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:41:09 -0400
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Peniel
I have the lines exactly as you wrote them. However, when I mark icons and hit
shift enter or control enter, the screen goes blank a few seconds and then
comes back. There is no box that pops up and says ok. When I hit F2 to copy
icons I get an ok box that it was copied but it never copies. Where does the
LHA.EXE reside?
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:49:50 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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John,

> > please take me off list

It is the New Age stuff: "Do Me!" :-)

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:49:42 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: New Deal Office? Anyone Try it on an HP 100/200/1000?
Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Hi Dan,

> I just put New deal office on an old 286 notebook, and actually got it
> surfing the web, which is definitely new to it!

Check the copyrights. There may be a surprise there, bringing
back some interesting aspects to light :-) ...

   Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:49:47 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Steve,

> PS, if this works, it will be my first post here using
> WWW/LX.

İ...¨

X-Mailer: POST/LX 2.2d

It seems to work, see the X-Mailer header from your own
message... :-)

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:49:37 -0700
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Rod,

> I just wanted to publicly say that this driver is (in my personal
> opinion) the best thing for the HP200LX since Mack's last driver (the
> BIOS message killer).
>
> I feel priviledged because in both cases I stated a personal need on
> this list, and a couple of weeks later Mack magically releases a tool
> that does exactly what I wanted with no other superfluous bells or
> whistles.

It gives me a pleasure to disagree with you! :-) I really
disagree strongly. You talk about "magically" and I believe it
is not so. It is pure, unadulterated, wild talent! :-) ...
Would you find it possible to agree with my disagreement? <g>

   Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Rick Rae:

> As to the first question, I can't say much about peak charge levels.  I
> have noticed that the set I'm using now - which are 1.5AH batteries - don't
> charge as high as the previous set which was 1.3AH, so maybe it is tied to
> capacity.  Others with more NiMH experience should probably comment on
> this, but I will say that 2.92 volts is *generally* in the peak range
> you'll see on a NiMH charge.  Keep in mind too that the A/D converter in
> the LX series doesn't have a lot of resolution, and if you're just on "this
> side" of a bit transition when the battery stalls that may give you a
> slightly lower reading than you'd expect.

I posted to Anand too. The chemistry in individual batteries
may be quite varied, affecting the peaks. In my opinion the
peaks are rather meaningless, since you only stay there for
moments. the vast majority of the service time you get at the
working range. In NiMH ist is about 2.55V down to 2.39V.

Thank for posting from your experience!

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Anand:

> The voltage as shown by ABC/LX does not go beyond 2.92 volts. Also, I see

You mean when charging? This makes little difference. The
batteries are actually about 1.2? each, so their nominal,
normal range is around 2.5 Volts!

The issue is not how high a peak you can reach, but how long
you can keep using the machnie at say 2.45V. If you get lots
of hours, that is good. If you don't then there is something
at play, but the peak is meaningless.

Secondly, the drop you see is really the battery "settling
down" and approaching its normal range. So ignore that too.

Again, the point of batteries is not how high you can push
their chemistry, but how long they will discharge giving you
service. I personally do not care if I get 10 hours at 2.75V
or 10 hours at 2.40V, I care about the 10 hours.

I have several NiCD and NiMH pairs and their "personal"
characteristics are remarkably different: Some climb way up
during charging but give only 8 hours servie, while one of my
NiCDs never goes above 2.81 V but gives me a consistent 12-13
hours service.

> that even if the unit is not used, the voltage drops within a few hours to
> 2.7X volts. I do not believe that I am getting the battery life that this
> combination is reputed to give.

I believe you expect too much. The ABC/LX/Magic is not slated
for release until February 31, 2000. Among the features it
will sport:

- The program will actually power the palmtop continuously for
about 22 hours - without batteries. With batteries - only 10
hours, but it will charge up the batteries fully. ... Just by
running the program.

- It will not cost _you_ money! We will send you a license to
use it when you ask for it on the release date along with a
check for USD 5m. so you can retire comfortably and write
novels on a small Caribbean Island.

- When you run the program's initialization routine it will
ask you what speed you wish to use on the palmtop, and run it
thereafter at that speed, until change. At this point we
believe we can reach about 1200MHz comfortably, _while_
charging the batteries for your flashlights. More without the
charging of batteries.

- The memory expansion feature of the program will allow you
to expand the memory to about 900MB - memory, not storage -
and it is simply the MemoryToUse= parameter in the INI file.



<G>

Seriously, this combination of program and battery gives
nothing! It enables certain things. The battery is high
capacity, and ABC/LX monitors its charging cycles a little
better, relieving you from having to worry and measure it all
the time. But it certainly won't drag electricity from the
atmosphere to stash into the batteries. Although, the
electricity in the personalities involved might be an
interesting angle to consider! :-) ...

Lastly, all the rechargeable batteries seem to have a "curing"
or "maturing" (I like "ripening") period. It takes them
several charge cycles to slowly increase capacity, and reach
their potential. Probably 5-10 cycles is safe. So hang in and
see what happens. And it is also possible that one of the
batteries is not 100%, and that will affect the performance of
the pair. Again that won't probably show for several cycles.

BTW, the high humidity in your location will definitely affect
the performance.

Enjoy.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:17:00 -0600
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Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>
> Over the past few years many palmtop users have requested that we put the
> back issues of THE HP PALMTOP PAPER at our web site, www.palmtoppaper.com
> and in HTML on our annual CD Infobase.
>
> We would be willing to do both.  (For the CD Infobase we would have both the
> Hyperwriter version -- the interface that currently exists, and the HTML
> version.)
>
> Our problem is resources.  We do not have the manpower to convert it --
> especially since it is more of a service to the palmtop community as opposed
> to a profit generating project.
>
> Jorgen did a great job leading a group of people, converting the
> Programmer's Reference Guide to HTML.  I don't think this project would be
> nearly as difficult or time consuming.
>
> If we had volunteers, HP Palmtop Paper editor, Ed Keefe, would be willing to
> take charge of the project. If you are interested, please email Ed at
> ed@thaddeus.com and copy me at  hal@thaddeus.com.
>
> Thank you.
>
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I would love to get involved in the project any way that I can.  I have a lot of
free time this summer as a school teacher, and then during the school year I
could donate a few hours.  Please contact me and let me know what I can do to
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Paul Yarnell wrote:
> Datekey uses a yymmdd-ddmmyy-mmddyy format without hyphens and
> uses that format for every Fn-date keypress. This seems to be
> incompatable with what PIM expects to see.

Fn-Date works in PE and inserts the date for you - you can even pick it
from a small calendar.

> It may be fixable in
> the cfg

I would guess so. The date format is configurable in PE, but as you
say, commenting out the TSR should fix it easily - unless you need that
date in other DOS apps too.

> If I have a top level category and some sub-categorys, does an
> entey have to have both? if so which order? How do I view
> categories in hierarchy order?

I hope the following makes it clear:

   Parent:                      +( Animal
                                   /   \
   Children:               +( Bird      +( Mammal
                           +> Animal    +> Animal
                             /    \            \
   Grand children:   +( sparrow   +( duck      +( cow
                     +> Bird      +> Bird      +> Mammal

When on a +> line and pressing Ctrl-ENTER, PIM searches the parent(s)
for you. When on a +( line and pressing Ctrl-ENTER, PIM searches the
children (or brothers, depending on what you choose in the displayed
dialog).

> One other thing I've noticed; the doc says that pending alarms
> will show when PIM is opened but they don't.

The text that comes with the alarm is not shown, ALAPIM just beeps and
inverts the screen several times. In order to display the text too, a
lot of memory (within the TSR) would be needed. The text is shown when
you start PIM again.

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> > is there any way to save the current path in a DOS environment variable
> > with any command in a batch file?
> >
> I use PUSHDIR.COM and POPDIR.COM for this purpose.  They are o-l-d DOS
> utilities from PC Magazine that I've been using for years on my desktop
>
If memory serves, in that same PC Magazine collection was another tiny utility
called (I think!) RUN.COM.

This utility searched the disk for a given program, executed it, then returned
to the original directory. (There was also a switch /S to stay in the executed
program's directory after execution.)

The PC Magazine utilities used to be available online. Does anyone know if they
still are -- and where?

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> > I tried adding icons from my icon folder by marking the icon and then
> > hitting shift and enter (or control and enter) to icon.lzh or icon.zip
> >
> Hmmm...  A couple of things.  Does your finder.env include the lines?:
>
> .icn    ,stm    ,lha a -z %a0 %c
>         ,scm    ,lha a -z %g0 %c
>
> The switches may be mst and msc on yours - the order doesn't matter.
> These are the lines that do the shortcut copying to icon.lzh and/or
> iconfld.lzh
>
Am I missing something? I move icons in and out of my icon.lzh and iconfldr.lzh
simply by marking them with İspace¨ and hitting İF2¨ to copy or İF3¨ to move --
just as if the archives were ordinary directories. Seems to work for me in R.9,
anyways.

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Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:21:20 -0400 (EDT)

01h39m12s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

> Peniel,
> I've downloaded x-finder a couple of times in the last month and played
> around with it a bit. But I still don't "get it", and I end up deleting
> it.
> What is the advantage to using x-finder?

Hi Steve-

X-Finder is a combination of GUI program launcher, file manager,
archive manager, and icon viewer/manager.  It can use long file names
and symbolic links.  The program launcher can handle over 200 entries.
These can be DOS programs, EXMs, macros, or databases launched from
their own icons.  The file manager is more powerful than Filer, and can
also function in either GUI (icon) mode or list; split screen or full
width.  You can associate file extensions with different programs
(several programs or actions can be associated with each extension).  A
huge advantage of XF is that it transparently treats .lzh and .zip
archives as directories.  Copy, move, delete, rename etc work just the
same with archived files.

With the addition of a small server program on a PC compatible (DOS or
Windoze) machine, you can also access files on the remote machine, and
even remotely execute programs on the other machine.

HTH

-Peniel
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57m23s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I have the lines exactly as you wrote them. However, when I mark icons =
and
> hit shift enter or control enter, the screen goes blank a few seconds =
and
> then comes back. There is no box that pops up and says ok. When I hit =
F2 to
> copy icons I get an ok box that it was copied but it never copies. =
Where
> does the LHA.EXE reside?

I have LHA.EXE in a:\util (which is in the PATH).  If you don't have
LHA, it's available on Simtel sites (in the /dos/arcers subdirectory)
AFAIK the latest version is 2.55.  I think the filename is lha255.exe -
it's a self extracting archive.  You might also be interested in LHE -
a high speed .lzh extractor (on SUPER).

If you don't have LHA somewhere in the path, you'll need to put the
complete path in finder.env

HTH

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Peniel
Putting LHA in my path resulted in allowing me to copy 1 icon at a time into
either c:\_dat\icon.lzh or c:\_dat\iconfld.lzh. This is a start. I had a
feeling that it had something to do with LHA.
Tony

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Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:57:15 -0400 (EDT)

27m19s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bruce Martin wrote:

> Am I missing something? I move icons in and out of my icon.lzh and
> iconfldr.lzh simply by marking them with İspace¨ and hitting İF2¨ to
> copy or İF3¨ to move -- just as if the archives were ordinary directorie=
s.
> Seems to work for me in R.9, anyways.

Hi Bruce-

Regular copy or move worked at least back to R.4   What I mentioned is a
shortcut that's already set up in finder.env (at least in R.8 and
R.9).  It saves a keystroke or two, since you don't switch directories
and copy - just İShift¨İEnter¨.  This works very nicely if you're
viewing the icon collection in full screen GUI mode.  Just select
icons, and hit the key combo.  Not a big deal, but kinda cool...

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:52:14 +0800
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Avi, I had always wondered who wrote those delightful pre-release notes
about Micro$oft products and their features, but now I wonder no more :)

At 12:49 AM 24-07-99 Saturday , A Meshar wrote:
>I believe you expect too much. The ABC/LX/Magic is not slated
>for release until February 31, 2000. Among the features it
>will sport:
>
>- The program will actually power the palmtop continuously for
>about 22 hours - without batteries. With batteries - only 10
>hours, but it will charge up the batteries fully. ... Just by
>running the program.
>
>- It will not cost _you_ money! We will send you a license to
>use it when you ask for it on the release date along with a
>check for USD 5m. so you can retire comfortably and write
>novels on a small Caribbean Island.
>
>- When you run the program's initialization routine it will
>ask you what speed you wish to use on the palmtop, and run it
>thereafter at that speed, until change. At this point we
>believe we can reach about 1200MHz comfortably, _while_
>charging the batteries for your flashlights. More without the
>charging of batteries.
>
>- The memory expansion feature of the program will allow you
>to expand the memory to about 900MB - memory, not storage -
>and it is simply the MemoryToUse= parameter in the INI file.
>
>
>
><G>
>

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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

> Peniel,
> I've downloaded x-finder a couple of times in the last month and played
> around with it a bit. But I still don't "get it", and I end up deleting
> it.
> What is the advantage to using x-finder?


Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:
Hi Steve-

X-Finder is a combination of GUI program launcher, file manager,
archive manager, and icon viewer/manager.  It can use long file names
and symbolic links.

    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Hey Man!

A 100/200LX with X-Finder is like having a new palmtop all together.

BTW: The first time I installed it back when it first appeared in the PTP,
I deleted it too. That was about 4-5 months ago or maybe even longer. (:-)

Coupled with TaskBar I now have my palmtop setup and running exactly like my
Omnibook/Decktop running Win95/98.  Now if you don't use Win95/98 thats
another story. I read a post from another list member who is setting his/she up
like a Mac.

See the 100/200LX is all things. So give X-Finder another try, you won't be
sorry. Have fun, learn and discover something new.




Regards,

Qman...
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Alain,

> It's juste US$100 is more than I can offer for the moment,

I fully understand.  I had quite a long "want list" too.   =Bob=

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Hi, all,

My nephew is looking for a PDA.  He asked me if the 200LX would "synch"
with Lotus Notes which is what he uses for email at work.  =


In my best avuncular tone, I replied "Duh!?  I don't know, but I'll ask."=


I'd really appreciate it if the Lotus Notes users on the list would help =
me
out on this familial request.   I've never used Lotus Notes so don't know=

what it will do beyond email.  The answers might even be turned into an
article for PTP. =


TIA, =

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Andreas,

Have you played with Paul Kramer's Flexpad?  What is the difference between
your approach and his?

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I tried it out with our Notes administrator. It seems as the only way is to
export the Notes database as a delimited file.


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An: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Betreff: Lotus Notes/LX
Datum: Freitag, 23. Juli 1999 21:10

Hi, all,

My nephew is looking for a PDA.  He asked me if the 200LX would "synch"
with Lotus Notes which is what he uses for email at work.

In my best avuncular tone, I replied "Duh!?  I don't know, but I'll ask."

I'd really appreciate it if the Lotus Notes users on the list would help me
out on this familial request.   I've never used Lotus Notes so don't know
what it will do beyond email.  The answers might even be turned into an
article for PTP.

TIA,
.ed.

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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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From:         Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: New Deal Office? Anyone Try it on an HP 100/200/1000 series
              unit?
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>Hi Dan,
>
>> I just put New deal office on an old 286 notebook, and actually got =
it
>> surfing the web, which is definitely new to it!
>
>Check the copyrights. There may be a surprise there, bringing
>back some interesting aspects to light :-) ...

Not sure what im looking for here Avi, if you are refering to New Deal =
Office's roots as GEOS
which ended up in the Omnigo, im aware of it.  GEOS is a nice system, if =
only it was more
developer friendly it may have been more successful.

Am i missing something?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:19:02 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I configured cc.mail to access palmtop.com email
...
> When connecting(F10),and selecting palmtop.com as Host,the 200lx froze very
> badly,giving the error message

I keep experiencing random hangs when using cc:Mail and Palmtop.Com so
I gave up using it.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:18:59 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Voltage is "how high the plane is when you jump": current is "how fast
> you're falling, or how fast the ground is coming up to meet you".

I think this ia a better analogy: Voltage is to water pressure as
Current is to the amount of water flowing through the hose.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:16:10 -0400
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop Paper archives on net and on CD in HTML?
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I would be willing to give time to help out because I think it is a worthy
project.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 10:06 AM
Subject: Palmtop Paper archives on net and on CD in HTML?


> Hi everyone.
>
> Over the past few years many palmtop users have requested that we put the
> back issues of THE HP PALMTOP PAPER at our web site, www.palmtoppaper.com
> and in HTML on our annual CD Infobase.
>
> We would be willing to do both.  (For the CD Infobase we would have both
the
> Hyperwriter version -- the interface that currently exists, and the HTML
> version.)
>
> Our problem is resources.  We do not have the manpower to convert it --
> especially since it is more of a service to the palmtop community as
opposed
> to a profit generating project.
>
> Jorgen did a great job leading a group of people, converting the
> Programmer's Reference Guide to HTML.  I don't think this project would be
> nearly as difficult or time consuming.
>
> If we had volunteers, HP Palmtop Paper editor, Ed Keefe, would be willing
to
> take charge of the project. If you are interested, please email Ed at
> ed@thaddeus.com and copy me at  hal@thaddeus.com.
>
> Thank you.
>
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:55:22 -0800
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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET> wrote:

> I configured cc.mail to access palmtop.com email....
> When connecting(F10),and selecting palmtop.com as Host,the 200lx froze very
> badly,giving the error message

I keep experiencing random hangs when using cc:Mail and Palmtop.Com so
I gave up using it.


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Same here and that was over a month ago.
But as you can see that hasn't stopped me from using cc:Mail though. (:-)




Regards,

Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.05

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:20:31 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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If you execute at\s with your XJ1144, you get a very verbose
setup information of your modem which is much more informative
than the at&v command. It states that cellular is OFF.

After entering at)m1 the command at\s states, that cellular is
now ON. What does that mean?

Can I connect a mobile phone without modem to the XJ1144,
execute the at)m1 command and go online?

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:30:06 +0000
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From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Ed,

I had that setup before I got a Dave Shier custom cable.  IMO the custom cable is well worth it.  Only about 12 inches long for the whole thing.  Much more compact for home or travel use.    =Bob=

;Actually, If you already have the regular ol' serial cable you're better off getting a 9-pin gender changer and 9-pin null modem converter from radio shack. I've found that the addition of these two pieces allows me the greatest serial port flexibility
... and they only cost 5-6$ each.+

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:30:18 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Ed,

Another note.  Radio Shack carries a 9v Lithium battery called Ultralife.  It is a tight fit in the Zoom so you have to be careful about not pinching the little wires off the circuit board, but it lasts a loonng time. $6.99.  I got 3 months off one with
 2 Compuserve forum/Email runs a day.  They start out at about 9.85v and are about gone at 8.75v.  Because lithiums operate in a higher voltage range sometimes when they get low you cannot complete an online run without getting kicked off.  This happens
 sometimes before the LB (low battery) comes on.  If this happens it's time to replace the battery.     =Bob=

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 02:25:19 -0300
Reply-To:     LP <lprado@dynamo.com.ar>
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HI all

Can I print with Word 5.5 in a HP 550c?

Wich type of printer sould I choose in setup in 200LX ?

Another tips that I did knew ?

Really thanks  to  Don E. Weatherly   my copy of Word 5.5 now works fine,
the only problem is the configuration for printer.

TIA

Luis Prado
   lprado@dynamo.com.ar

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:55:41 -0400
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Hi Andreas,

You asked the List if we:
>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?

No.  Still trying to configure to my liking but it was a bit hard to
set up

>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?
No.  But I still having a bit of trouble getting used to it.

>  - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
>    you dropped it?
>  - ..., so you dropped it?
Interesting so I am still trying it out.
>  - are still experimenting with it?...YES
>  - are still trying to get used to it? .....YES
>  - use it?....EXPERIMENTING.

I am having a bit of a problem with the time format.  The time format
is driving me batty because when you have PIM configured for the 12 hr
you can input 10:00a or 10:00am.  Seems as if you need to input only
10:00.  When in PIM gui and you press the add key (F2?) PE
automatically adds 10:00a.  I add an end time, say 1:00p.  The
appointment does not show up in PIM.  When I delete the 'a' from
10:00a, the entry shows up in PIM.  Anything I have configured
incorrectly???.

PE/PIM is very intriguing, seems like it may be fantastic. I really
appreciate your sharing it with us.

Thanks for your help.

Barbara

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:01:07 -0400
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From:         Phil Godden <Phil_Godden@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Somewhat offtopic. Hello all,
Comments: To: Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
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Try Russ Huff. You can reach him at the Camp Hill PA IBM office or try
rhuff@venatorgroup.com .

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 1:03 AM
Subject: Somewhat offtopic. Hello all,


> I know this is off-topic, but probably someone can help. If you have
>  a contact, who is an IBM employee and has been at IBM for good while
>  (say 10-12 years or so) in either Mainframe or Personal Computer field
>  and is probably willing to help; please contact me.
>
>  I would like to get hold of something from circa 1984, called:
>  IBM Virtual Machine/Personal Computer (VM/PC) Licenced Program (5669-001)
>  Release 1.0 and 1.1 These are based on VM/SP Release 2.
>
>  This this is related to my hobby: collecting old PC hardware. I got hold
>  of barebone IBM PC XT/370 and AT/370, which need above SW to function.
>  It basically turns a desktop PC into a limited S/370 machine if you have
>  the three add-on cards installed with the MC68000 CPUs.
>
>      Thank you in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:18:01 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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<Note taken from some PC computer mailing list, for information
purposes only, not an endorsement.>

=46irst Universal Modem  =20

  I have separate modems for my Palm and Windows CE organizers,
another one for my notebook and yet another modem for my desktop PC.
Buying separate modems is expensive and carrying them all adds weight
to my carry-on luggage when I travel. But the Trogon Computer
Corporation has a solution: The Pocket-sized 56K V.90 Unimicro Model.
The $129 pager-size modem works with Windows CE computers, Palm
organizers and -- via a serial cable -- all standard notebooks=20
and desktop PCs. The device is powered by two AA batteries and will go
on sale August 2, according to the company.   =20

http://www.trogoncomputer.com/news/pressrelease/unimicro.html

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:19:41 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <swdowell@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Qman,
OK... I reinstalled Xfinder and TBLX, and I've been fiddling around with
them again. : )
Got a couple of questions...

TBLX
1. In order to add programs you apparently add 'Program Name=Scancode' in
the "Programs" section of TBLX.DAT.  How do you add DOS applications? (I
want to add a subfolder for games)
2. I saw the tip on your web page where you describe how to put TBLX in
"overlay mode". I don't have Moreexm, but I tried adding the '1' to the line
in APNAME.LST. It didn't seem to have any effect at all. Is that trick
supposed to work with APNAME.LST?

X-FINDER
1. What would be the entry in Finder.env to make the built in Memo be the
default editor?  I've tried several different things, but no luck.

TIA,
Steve

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:08:29 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Try something that is related to an HP Deskjet or HP 500 Series.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

LP wrote:

> HI all
>
> Can I print with Word 5.5 in a HP 550c?
>
> Wich type of printer sould I choose in setup in 200LX ?
>
> Another tips that I did knew ?
>
> Really thanks  to  Don E. Weatherly   my copy of Word 5.5 now works fine,
> the only problem is the configuration for printer.
>
> TIA
>
> Luis Prado
>    lprado@dynamo.com.ar
>
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:19:57 -0600
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              Dieter Deyke <deyke@COCREATE.FC.HP.COM>
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From:         Dieter Deyke <deyke@COCREATE.FC.HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: PIM/PE
In-Reply-To:  Dieter Deyke's message of "21 Jul 1999 14:30:54 -0600"

I am using it, and have converted all my *.?db files to .pim.

Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> writes:

> I know that quite a few people have downloaded and tried the PIM
> extensions of PE, but so far I have no idea if anyone is actually
> *using* it. Did you download it, check it out and
>
>  - found it too hard to set up, so you dropped it?
>  - found it too difficult to get used to, so you dropped it?
>  - found it interessing, but some important feature was missing, so
>    you dropped it?
>  - ..., so you dropped it?
>  - are still experimenting with it?
>  - are still trying to get used to it?
>  - use it?
>
> Andreas
>
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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:39:09 -0400
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Ack!!! I have to learn to type.  I said:> Hi Andreas,
>
> I am having a bit of a problem with the time format.  The time format
> is driving me batty because when you have PIM configured for the 12 hr
> you can input 10:00a or 10:00am.  Seems as if you need to input only
> 10:00.

I meant:

"...is driving me batty because when you have PIM configured for
12hr (crazy US instead of 24hr) you *cannot" input 10:00a or
10:00am..."

I really am used to the 12hour mention (as crazy as it is).

Sorry for the sloppiness and bad grammar.  I are very sorry.

Barbara

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:09:59 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Plans for a reduced memory image Accton packet driver

İIf you don't use an Accton ethernet card, then there is no need to read
any further.¨

Now that I have resurrected the source code for the en2216 packet
driver, I'm working on making it as small as possible for use on the
palmtop.

I'm detailing my plans here because I consider the resurrected Accton
driver source code to now be the "community property" of the HP200LX
palmtop community, and therefore changes to the code should be open to
scrutiny and input from that community.  If anyone wants to forward
these plans on to HPHAND, please feel free.

I will be releasing two open-source freeware programs (both generated
from the same source code with "#ifdef HP200LX"):

1/ EN2216.COM is functionally equivalent to PD2216.COM (and has
   exactly the same file size and memory footprint).  The only real
   difference is that the source code is now freely available.

2/ LXEN2216.COM will have minimal functionality (but will retain
   anything that is useful on the HP200LX).  It will have a reduced
   file size and memory footprint.

This message is designed to give those people who know about packet
driver support required by the programs that we run on the palmtop to
sanity check my plans.  I know that Andreas and Steven read this list,
so that will cover WWW/LX in ethernet mode and Goin Postal.  I will
cover LXTCP, WatTCP, NCSA Telnet and CUTCP.

I plan to modify the following en2216 packet driver features (the
following refers to version 1.11 of the packet driver specification):

1/ Hard-code the IO address to 0x300 and the interrupt number to 5.
2/ Remove support for the -i, -n, -w and -p flags.
3/ Remove support for get_parameters (function 10).
4/ Remove support for as_send_pkt (function 12).
5/ Remove support for drop_pkt (function 13).
6/ Remove support for {set,get}_multicast_list (functions 22 & 23).
7/ Remove support for set_address (function 25).
8/ Remove support for receive modes 4 and 5 (multicast).
9/ Remove support for IEEE 802.3 and ArcNet (as opposed to Ethernet).

This should bring the resident memory image down to 0x1000 bytes or
less (it's currently 0x1230 bytes), and remove the possibility of
hanging the palmtop by providing the wrong interrupt number.

Both the new en2216.com and lxen2216.com programs will retain
compatibility with the existing op2216.com program and will also be
compatible with Mack's new ether.com program.

If anyone has technical comments, objections or suggestions regarding
this plan or the future direction of the EN2216 packet driver, may I
suggest that we continue the discussion in the hp200.programmers
newsgroup on news.hplx.net (as I'm assuming that anyone who is
programming for packet drivers is able to get access to that newsgroup,
and that most other people on HPLX-L are not interested).  If there is
a change from the above plans, they will be mailed to this list when
finalised.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:25:47 +0930
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A Meshar writes:
> It gives me a pleasure to disagree with you! :-) I really
> disagree strongly. You talk about "magically" and I believe it
> is not so. It is pure, unadulterated, wild talent! :-) ...
> Would you find it possible to agree with my disagreement? <g>

As someone once said (quoting from memory):  "Any technology
sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic" :-)

I believe that Mack is such a "technology" :-)

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:00:38 GMT
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              UNDERSTANDING PROBLEMS
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Hi Jeff and others who have these problems,

> It's a *very* valid point. So many people have trouble understanding the
> difference between voltage and current. I guess I am a geek because I do
> understand it, but my poor brother who is studying for his ham ticket is
> having a hard time grasping the idea.

You can explain it compared to water and a tap:

When the tap is closed, you have _voltage_, but no _current_. The
voltage is then pretty high. (the voltage corresponds to the water
pressure here).
But you don't have any advantage from this voltage. You have to let
flow a current in order to get any power:

When you open the tap, the water begins to flow: Current! The Voltage
drops a little bit. The more current, the less voltage.
Now you can use the water for something, for example, you can drive a
little hydroelectric power station ;-).

Now close the tap again -
there is the original voltage again, but current cannot flow!

Hope this helped a little bit

daniel


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Hi friends,

> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pcmag/v5n10.zip
> This is a TSR (PUSHDIR) and it's companion (POPDIR).

Thanks for your help - downloaded Pushdir/Popdir from Simtel.net and -
it's great! A very small program for a very 'big' problem!

Helmuth - thanks also for your idea. Your way is a little bit more
flexible, because you could use your stored path also for other things
(you could display it, for example, import it into a program, etc.)
But for me it's easier to use these nice small utilities.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:29:06 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>is there any way to save the current path in a DOS environment variable
>with any command in a batch file?

A technique I have used in the past is as follows.

Create a file containing just "cd " without the " but with the space, save
it as cd.txt

In your batch file do the following:

echo cd > restore.bat
copy restore.bat+cd.txt restore.bat
.
.
.
Perform your other batch file actions here
.
.
.
call restore.bat
del restore.bat

1) echo cd > restore.bat creates a file with the current path in it
2) copy restore.bat+cd.txt restore.bat  adds cd to the beginning  of the
current path (change directory command)
3) call restore.bat runs the batch file, changing back to the original
directory
4) del restore.bat removes the evidence

HTH

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 07:26:13 +0100
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I still can't this software to work yet. I think I've configured
everything properly in pim.cfg and pe.cfg. PalEdit will load but I can't
get the PIM weekly view to show in Paledit.

How do I "add an appointment" in PE and get it to show in PIM weekly
view?

I can open weekly view by loading PIM.EXE but if I add an appointment
from there, it says can't add appointment while PE is not running.

I think I'm missing the plot.

Someone mentioned a maual. Does one exist? How can I get it?

I'd really like to persevere and get this to work.

Dr Peter Maddern
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Scott Moore  <smoore@effectnet.com> wrote:
> I was wondering how long the posting lasts that you put on or would
> it be alright for you to post it again! I have sold most of my
> 40 Meg Disks I think I have 2 left depending on the mail I receive but I
> have quite alot of 20 Megs left
>  The 20 megs go for $40.00 and the 40megs go for $75.00...only the U.S.

phone number is 503-533-8463 (Hillsboro, Or) if you happen
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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:53:15 +0100
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Hal Goldstein wrote:
> Have you played with Paul Kramer's Flexpad?  What is the difference between
> your approach and his?

I have played around with it. This is from the docs of PIM/PE:

 "Then there is also Flexpad. Very flexible indeed, but quite
 limited what concerns file size and linkage between different
 files. It is based upon a text editor - a very powerful
 paradigm, but unfortunately the text editor itself is not that
 powerful. Also, palmtop alarms are not supported well."

Also, I prefer a GUI appointment overview to an ASCII based one, I
prefer data files that are FULLY ASCII (Flexpad uses mixed ASCII and
binary) and last but not least: being the author I can add and modify
anything that I don't like in PE and PIM, which I cannot do in Flexpad
<G>.

So these were the main reasons for why Flexpad was not my choice. Of
course, Flexpad has advantages too. For example, because everything is
in one file and the complete file needs to be in memory for Flexpad to
work with it, several things are much faster in Flexpad.

But then, I am obviously biased. I guess it would be better if somebody
without relations to either of the programs (but has used both of them)
could provide a comparison.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:53:18 +0100
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bmoy@COMPUSERVE.COM Barbara L. Moy wrote:
> 10:00.  When in PIM gui and you press the add key (F2?) PE
> automatically adds 10:00a.  I add an end time, say 1:00p.  The
> appointment does not show up in PIM.

Hmmm. I played around with the AM/PM stuff a little more and have to
agree there is something not OK. I never use AM/PM and seemingly the
beta testers neither. Will look into that.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:53:20 +0100
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Dieter Deyke wrote:
> I am using it, and have converted all my *.?db files to .pim.

So it seems to be useful for you. Goood :-) Anything you miss or that
should be different?

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Rod Whitby wrote:
> 1/ Hard-code the IO address to 0x300 and the interrupt number to 5.
> 2/ Remove support for the -i, -n, -w and -p flags.
> 3/ Remove support for get_parameters (function 10).
> 4/ Remove support for as_send_pkt (function 12).
> 5/ Remove support for drop_pkt (function 13).
> 6/ Remove support for {set,get}_multicast_list (functions 22 & 23).
> 7/ Remove support for set_address (function 25).
> 8/ Remove support for receive modes 4 and 5 (multicast).

Should not provide any problems with WWW/LX.

> 9/ Remove support for IEEE 802.3 and ArcNet (as opposed to Ethernet).

WWW/LX supports 802.3, but frankly, I doubt that anybody uses it. So I
assume this should not be a problem. Anybody on the list who uses
802.3?

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Peter Maddern wrote:
> I can open weekly view by loading PIM.EXE but if I add an appointment
> from there, it says can't add appointment while PE is not running.

PE must be running so that PIM.EXE can add an appointment.

Run PE. Then press Ctrl-ENTER to launch PIM.EXE, then Press Add.

> Someone mentioned a maual. Does one exist? How can I get it?

Get PIM.ZIP from www.dasoft.com. Have a look at PIM.DOC for how to
install it and then read HELP.PIM.

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On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> 9/ Remove support for IEEE 802.3 and ArcNet (as opposed to Ethernet).

If I recall correctly, PDIPX (for using the palmtop and packet driver as a
Netware client) requires 802.3 support. Removing it from the packet driver
could cause loss of support for Netware servers...

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Shaun wrote:

> After changing the PIM.CFG AMPM setting back to 0, I am able to see
> the appts I have created at last after deleting the a's and p's.
> Tried setting up the macro that Andreas recommends for F3 and it works
> now with the change outlined above also.  The time appears to have to
> be in the format "10:00", using "10" doesn't seem to work.

I said earlier that:

> >I really am used to the 12hour mention (as crazy as it is).

Dang, I did it again. I shouldn't write when I am tired. I meant 12hr
*method*, not *mention*.

I was also ready to give up because I couln't figure out why my
appointments were not showing up in PIM.  Thanks for the tip on the F3
macro.  I'll try it out.

Barbara

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Andreas wrote

> Hmmm. I played around with the AM/PM stuff a little more and have to
> agree there is something not OK. I never use AM/PM and seemingly the
> beta testers neither. Will look into that.

Andreas, thanks for looking into the AM/PM issue.  I forgot to mention
earlier that I *really* like PIM/PE's configurable font feature.
I tried almost every *.hfn that I could find.  Bold, italics...Great
feature!  Thanks for the wonderful tool.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:40:55 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:05:01 -0400 (EDT)

09h44m56s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

> Qman,
> OK... I reinstalled Xfinder and TBLX, and I've been fiddling around =
with
> them again. : )
> Got a couple of questions...

Different findermaniac here, not Qman.  I'll leave most of the TBLX
stuff to Qman - he does a lot more with it...

> TBLX
> 2. I saw the tip on your web page where you describe how to put TBLX in
> "overlay mode". I don't have Moreexm, but I tried adding the '1' to the =
line
> in APNAME.LST. It didn't seem to have any effect at all. Is that trick
> supposed to work with APNAME.LST?

Nope.  But it will work with XF.  I'm pretty sure this is covered in the
XF docs.  Remember XF can run EXMs without the need to register in
AppMgr or MoreEXM.  Oops, just remembered - you need MoreEXM installed
to use this XF feature...  You really ought to get MoreEXM.

> X-FINDER
> 1. What would be the entry in Finder.env to make the built in Memo be =
the
> default editor?  I've tried several different things, but no luck.

Try this (I assume you have an English language palmtop):

%e   ,b800   ,r||me

HTH

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:19:02 -0500
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              John Cobb <ejcobb@CONCENTRIC.NET>
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I use Creative Calendar 5 to keep a family calendar.  It will export
data to a CSV file and I would like to be able to import this CSV file
to Lotus Organizer 2.1 with the idea that I would then use Intellilink
to put the info into the 200's built-in PIM.

However, when I attempt to import the CSV file into Organizer I get an
error message that says " Organizer can't find any column names in
*.CSV.  Add them to the file and try again."

How do I resolve this?

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:06:22 -0400
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Just a guess: edit the CSV file in a text editor and add a line at the to=
p
that contains the names for the columns.

.ed.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:38:55 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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Surely the ammount of water is proportional to the amount of electrons
(i.e. charge), and not the current. Electric current is the speed of water
flowing through the tap. Current x diameter of faucet gives you the amount
of water.

A physical Cheers from
Paul Rasmussen

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> From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Is the pcmcia slot powered down when there is no card in
> I think this ia a better analogy: Voltage is to water pressure as
> Current is to the amount of water flowing through the hose.
>
> cheers... Russ
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I've had a 14,400 Zoom pcmcia for quite awhile and I spent the better
part of last weekend trying to get it to work.  I tried using  the
built-in Datacom, a terminal program called Lync, and the comm
program in Lotus Works.  I used every init setting in the manual, I
have the pcmcia tsr in my autoexec and I still can't get it to
connect or even dial out.

How do you know if a modem is just not going to work?  I don't have
any problems running an external modem from the serial port.

Thanks,

Terry Owen

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Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:

> The voltage as shown by ABC/LX does not go beyond 2.92 volts. Also, I =
see
> that even if the unit is not used, the voltage drops within a few hours =
to
> 2.7X volts

That is all normal.  How many hours of time do you get on the
Battery Timer in ABC/LX in between charges?  That is the real
parameter you should be looking at.  I usually get about 10
hours between charges.


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John Cobb wrote:

>I use Creative Calendar 5 to keep a family calendar.  It will export
>data to a CSV file and I would like to be able to import this CSV file
>to Lotus Organizer 2.1 with the idea that I would then use Intellilink
>to put the info into the 200's built-in PIM.

If I were doing that, I would skip the Organizer step and import the
CSV file directly into the 200LX using the GDBLOAD program.

And what it was complaining about is one of two things:=20

1) It's common for a CSV file to have its first line contain the field
names, and Organizer was expecting this but Calendar didn't produce
it.

2) Or, what seems more likely, is that Calendar might have produced
field names, but they weren't the names Organizer was expecting. In
this case, you would need to edit the file with a good text editor
(see http://www.notetab.com) and change the field names in the first
line to the field names that Organizer expects.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:18:58 +0200
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I finaly gotten MSNET to work.
It was my employer who had aktivated the NoFileSharing in the win95
registry. (done every time I logon to our NT server).

With regedit one can change this. The bad part is that to activate the
registry change I have to reboot the computer and therefore login again
and then the registry is changed again. :-<
So for now I just dont log in to the NT server when I whant to share
files with my HP.

* (Any one know how to activate the registry changes on a win95 without
rebooting?)

* How do I share the HP files? In Win95 I go to "this computer" and
there I share what I whant.

The backup speed is amazing I made a 6M backup in one minute!

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

I still can't this software to work yet. I think I've configured
everything properly in pim.cfg and pe.cfg. PalEdit will load but I can't
get the PIM weekly view to show in Paledit.

How do I "add an appointment" in PE and get it to show in PIM weekly
view?


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Hi Peter,

After you launch PE hit CTRL+C. This should start Pim.exe, then press " ADD".


HTH




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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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bmoy@COMPUSERVE.COM Barbara L. Moy wrote:
> I was also ready to give up because I couln't figure out why my
> appointments were not showing up in PIM.

PIM errouneously considers them to be a repeating item and thus uses
them as a template to generate the "actual" items - which does not
succeed of course. Fixed now in the version I have. Will be available
within a few days.

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Does anyone have a copy or know where I can get a copy of scandisk?
TIA
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Can someone point me to the best price
on a Accton EN2216-1 10BaseT adapter?

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John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:

> this is a 100Lx the a drive shows only the following:
> ..
> ccmail  ini
> compusrv dcf
> dowjones dcf
> filer   env
> genie  dcf
> mci  dcf
> setup  env
> termder dcf

I have already sent you a message with a bunch of suggestions
and questions about this to you personally and on this list.
Did you get them?

Those files you have listed above should be on your C: drive
in the C:\_DAT directory.  They probably still are, but I
don't know why there would be copies of them on A:, especially
considering that you are probably looking at the unstacked
portion of the card and should not any user-related files.  I
have no idea why they should show up on the A: drive.  Are you
sure that Filer is looking at the A: drive and not C:\_DAT?

Here is my message from before:

John, the ACE DoubleFlash cards come from the factory with
Stacker installed.  This is the driver program to allow more
data on the card by compressing and decompressing it
automatically and it is written to and read from the flash
card.

I am not sure what caused the original problem with Procomm,
but we have to determine if you have the proper drivers loaded
in order to have Stacker functioning.   You mentioned that
after a reboot, that an attempt to copy files to the A: drive
resulted in a disk full message.  This is exactly what happens
when the Stacker driver is NOT loaded.  Since Stacker takes
over the whole flash card, when it is not loaded, the card
appears to be full.

Open the Filer application and go over to the A: drive.  If
you see just a couple of STACKER.??? files there and a report
that there are only a few K of bytes available, then it is
certain that Stacker is not loaded.  You will also not see any
of your directories and files that you used to see on the A:
drive.

If you see all of your stuff, then Stacker is loaded and
running.  Then I am not sure what the trouble is.  You can run
the CHECK program that comes with Stacker to check if there is
a corruption.  You can also try DOS's CHKDSK to check for file
system problems.

If you realize above that Stacker is not loaded, then you have
to figure out how to get it to load.  There should be
statements in the CONFIG.SYS file on the UNstacked part of the
card (the one you are looking at now) or on the C: drive that
load the driver for Stacker.

When you rebooted, was the DoubleFlash card in the slot?  If
not, then try rebooting with the card inserted, so that the
palmtop can load the CONFIG.SYS file from the A: drive which
is where it should be.

I don't know what else to say now until I hear back from you
about the things I mentioned above.  Please be more specific
about that you see or don't see and what works and what does
not work.  The more I know about what you see, the better I
can help.


Stan

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Subject:      Help: Zoom pcmcia modem
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Terry Owen <owen6511@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I've had a 14,400 Zoom pcmcia ... I tried using the built-in
> Datacom, a terminal program called Lync, and the comm program
> in Lotus Works.  I used every init setting in the manual, I
> have the pcmcia tsr in my autoexec and I still can't get it to
> connect or even dial out

Are you sure the line in AUTOEXEC.BAT is correct?  It should
be:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

Be careful of the different directions of the slashes.  Also,
you need to reboot after changing AUTOEXEC.BAT.  And are you
sure you changed the right AUTOEXEC.BAT?  Sometimes there may
be more than one and only one is really used.

You have to specify COM2 to the program you are using with the
modem.  When you do an AT, do you get an OK back from the
modem?  How about ATZ, does that get any kind of response from
the modem?  If you don't get the command responses, then it is
probably not going to dial either.

I remember that there was one or two PCMCIA modems that just
didn't work in the 200LX, but I don't know if that Zoom model
was one of them.  Try the modem in a laptop or another 200LX
to see if there is any response from it.

You might want to try using LXCIC as the driver for the modem
instead of the CIC100 program.  Maybe LXCIC will work better.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:23:09 -0400
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Curtis Brown <curtisb@optimus-corp.com> wrote:

> I too have been trying
> without much success. If you find out anything, would you be will to
> pass it along? Many thanks in advance!

I have received a bit of help on and off this list.  I will
see if I can have any success and then report back everything
I can to this list.  I would really like to be able to map
resources from the "network" to my palmtop - that's all for
now.


Stan

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Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> I set my pkzip settings to -ex, and the backup begins.  At 50%, the LX
> begins to shudder from the strain...steam begins to issue from the =
serial
> port and at 75% the battery cover blows free from the chassis.
> 80% and the LX begins dancing madly on the table while the unit's hum =
now
> turns to a low roar.... "Capt'n, she's a gonna blow.... I dun't know =
how
> much more she kin take"!

Kirk: "Keep goin' Scotty!  I neeeed more compression!".


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Flurin Sutter <flurin.sutter@WSL.CH> wrote:

> working with our DOS programs and ram or flash cards ... After
> three minutes, even when the program is waiting for the next
> input, the HP changes to the sleep mode. Sometimes, this
> process destroys the currently opened file

This is caused by a quirk in that DOS program conflicting with a quirk in
the way the palmtop works - usually a very rare occurance.  The 200LX,
when it goes to into deep sleep (turns off), it just stops that is is
doing and leaves every part of DOS and running programs and memory, etc
exactly in place when it stops the processor.  And then when the palmtop
is turned back on, it just continues exactly where it left off.
Normally, and with 9999 out of 10000 DOS programs, this is not a problem.
 But I suspect that the particular DOS program you are using is
misbehaving in one problematic way.

The only thing that the palmtop does during the deep sleep (power off)
and power up cycle that can cause the problems you mention is because the
BIOS tells DOS that the A: drive (which DOS sees as a removable media,
like a floppy) was changed (been removed and replaced possible with
something different).  As a result of this command from the BIOS, DOS
will discard any data left in the buffers for files that were open on
the flash card.  I believe this is what is corrupting your files.

Your DOS program has to work every so slightly differently in order to
not have trouble with this particular action of the palmtop.
Unfortunately, I am not a DOS programmer and cannot remember the details
of how to work around this.  But does it really matter?  Can you get to
the author of that DOS program and fix it?  Actually, I think what the
program needs to do is issue the command to DOS to flush the buffers
after every write to the data file.  Then there will not be any
un-written data waiting in the buffer when DOS flushes them after a
power on.

As a work around, try installing the program and it's data files on the
C: drive instead.  The C: drive it not considered a removable media and
therefore (hopefully) it will not get issued the disk change command from
the BIOS after a power on.  Then your program may work.  It is worth a
try.

Another work around that would certainly work is to quit out of the
program after every entry when the user thinks there will be more than a
few minutes before the next entry.  When the program quits, I would
expect that it closes the data files and flushes the buffers.

> Now, we woud like to know, how we
> can turn off the sleeping mode or how we can set the time to
> e.g. one day

This may not be a good solution because the palmtop will probably exhaust
the batteries before the end of the day.  Please note that there are
actually two sleep modes in the palmtop.  Lite sleep is where the palmtop
slows down the processor while waiting for a keystroke.  Deep sleep is
where it turns itself off.  Lite sleep is not causing the trouble you
are having, it is the deep sleep.

Lite sleep is essential in order to conserve battery power while the
computer is still running - don't disable that.  If you lengthen the time
the palmtop waits to turn itself off (go into deep sleep), then that will
most likely help you out by giving the users more time to make the next
entry but still allow the palmtop to save the batteries with Lite Sleep.

There are utility programs to extend the length of time for the palmtop
before it will turn itself off.  You can set that to something like one
hour.  If the user thinks it is going to be more than that time before
the next entry, then he should quit the program and turn the palmtop
off.

I would also advise that they carry an extra pair of batteries just in
case a low battery situation comes up.


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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> I have always wondered how the lx was programmed so the rom was seen as
> a d: drive. Does anyone know how that is done?

I don't know the details.  The palmtop is actually quite
sophosticated in it's methods of accessing the ROM.  There is
3MB (I think) of ROM in the 200LX.  But notice how it is all
hidden from view?  There are a few programs and files on the
D: drive, but certainly not 3MB worth and certainly not any of
the built in applications.

And another feature of the design of the palmtop is that the
built in programs do not require any program space in RAM in
order to run.  All the RAM they use is for variable and data
storage.  The programs are eXecute-In-Place (XIP) and run
directly from the ROM chips in order to save RAM.

There is a sophisticated bank switching process that goes on
all the time to make the needed part of the ROM available in
the address space below 1MB so that it can execute.  This is
also how access to the C: drive (whatever size it is) is done.
 All of this work with the bank switching is done with some
special hardware and with some very tricky software drivers.

So, the D: drive stuff is probably mapped out in the ROM
someplace and a special driver hooked into DOS makes DOS see
that stuff just like any other drive that happens to be write
protected.   Clever stuff I say.


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Rod Whitby wrote:
>
> As someone once said (quoting from memory):  "Any technology
> sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic" :-)

That was Arthur C. Clarke.

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> Terry Owen <owen6511@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
> > I've had a 14,400 Zoom pcmcia ... I tried using the built-in
> > Datacom, a terminal program called Lync, and the comm program
> > in Lotus Works.  I used every init setting in the manual, I
> > have the pcmcia tsr in my autoexec and I still can't get it to
> > connect or even dial out
>

I use a Zoom PCMCIA 14.4 on my palmtop and it works ok with
acCIS, WWW/LX and LXTCP. I use the LXCIC program by Stephan
instead of the built in CIC.

Regards

Antonio
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"Technium Pty. Ltd." <futaris@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Is there a utility that can resize the size of the RAM Disk, without
> having to go into Setup?

I strongly doubt it.  The RAM partition is something very
particular to the palmtop and it's operation is probably
burried very deep in the ROM-based drivers.

With your 1MB machine, I don't know if you can do what you want
to anyway.  You are going to need to store all of the drivers
needed for the Ethernet card and the EMail access program all
on the C: drive and you will need a good amount of available
RAM to load and run these programs.

What Ethernet card do you have, do you kknow if it even works
in the palmtop and do you have the drivers and know that the
whole thing will even work?  And if it does work, could you
please tell us about it because I know this is something I and
lots of others would be interested in.


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Bruce,

I see that you work with Word 5.5 for DOS  and have it up and running. I =
have
downloaded the program from the site indicated on the list the other day, =
made
the setup on the desktop and passed the files that you indicated onto
the flashcard.

The program works fine, but it does not print, neither by cable nor by
Infrared. Word tells me after the Print command: Printer not ready. I
have the MODE LPT1=3DCOM1 in the Startup commands for the SC Work area
for Word.

Can you help me out ?

Thanks in advance
Winfried

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:24:39 -0700
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Stan,
thank you for giving me your information on the problem...apparently you
did not receive my reply explaining that rebooting and typing in '100' at
the dos prompt reinstalled the stacker card and all files that were not
visable were viewable again...and for then entire week I have been
functioning....because of the time critical nature of the phone directory
for business I worked with the Ace documentation and found that I had
uninstalled the card.

Again thank you for taking time ...

JohnCarlo

At 04:22 PM 7/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:
>
>> this is a 100Lx the a drive shows only the following:
>> ..
>> ccmail  ini
>> compusrv dcf
>> dowjones dcf
>> filer   env
>> genie  dcf
>> mci  dcf
>> setup  env
>> termder dcf
>
>I have already sent you a message with a bunch of suggestions
>and questions about this to you personally and on this list.
>Did you get them?
>
>Those files you have listed above should be on your C: drive
>in the C:\_DAT directory.  They probably still are, but I
>don't know why there would be copies of them on A:, especially
>considering that you are probably looking at the unstacked
>portion of the card and should not any user-related files.  I
>have no idea why they should show up on the A: drive.  Are you
>sure that Filer is looking at the A: drive and not C:\_DAT?
>
>Here is my message from before:
>
>John, the ACE DoubleFlash cards come from the factory with
>Stacker installed.  This is the driver program to allow more
>data on the card by compressing and decompressing it
>automatically and it is written to and read from the flash
>card.
>
>I am not sure what caused the original problem with Procomm,
>but we have to determine if you have the proper drivers loaded
>in order to have Stacker functioning.   You mentioned that
>after a reboot, that an attempt to copy files to the A: drive
>resulted in a disk full message.  This is exactly what happens
>when the Stacker driver is NOT loaded.  Since Stacker takes
>over the whole flash card, when it is not loaded, the card
>appears to be full.
>
>Open the Filer application and go over to the A: drive.  If
>you see just a couple of STACKER.??? files there and a report
>that there are only a few K of bytes available, then it is
>certain that Stacker is not loaded.  You will also not see any
>of your directories and files that you used to see on the A:
>drive.
>
>If you see all of your stuff, then Stacker is loaded and
>running.  Then I am not sure what the trouble is.  You can run
>the CHECK program that comes with Stacker to check if there is
>a corruption.  You can also try DOS's CHKDSK to check for file
>system problems.
>
>If you realize above that Stacker is not loaded, then you have
>to figure out how to get it to load.  There should be
>statements in the CONFIG.SYS file on the UNstacked part of the
>card (the one you are looking at now) or on the C: drive that
>load the driver for Stacker.
>
>When you rebooted, was the DoubleFlash card in the slot?  If
>not, then try rebooting with the card inserted, so that the
>palmtop can load the CONFIG.SYS file from the A: drive which
>is where it should be.
>
>I don't know what else to say now until I hear back from you
>about the things I mentioned above.  Please be more specific
>about that you see or don't see and what works and what does
>not work.  The more I know about what you see, the better I
>can help.
>
>
>Stan
>
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I downloaded PIM several weeks ago, but had not gotten around to looking
at it. - Not until all the good reviews sparked my interest.

So, spent most of today getting a feel for it.

Great Job!!

Observation: PE/PIM is almost an outliner too! The whole concept is
reminiscent of a DOS version of Works.

Although I don't see it replacing my built-in PIMs (more cumbersome than
my needs require / too high a learning curve for effort spent) I see a
definite value for other work I'm doing - trying to organize
information.My current primary use of built in PIMS is a modified
database (gdb) that I use for my todo list. (you are correct, the built
in todo list is deficient.) Built in appts and phone book are adequate
for me.

Questions:
When PE is invoked with the @ (pe @) and it reads in the SRCLIST to
define the operating environment (open files): Is it possible to call a
file other than SRCLIST?

I would like to have several different "srclists" for different
projects.
If not, I would propose :  "PE @filename" as a syntax to call any
"srclist file."

Is there a mechanism for "going back" (to backtrack) after jumping to a
link?

A very useful tool would be a conversion program from PE to HTML to
maintain all PE/PIM links in HTML. This way information could be
developed in PE and then translated to HTML with links intact.

A suggestion: It would be nice to have a file/database header so that
the field names (labels) don't have to be repeated in each record, and
with the ability to tab to the end of each label / beginning of each
data field. (perhaps more database like than you intended)

Thanks for the good work, but thanks even more for sharing it.

P.S. Andreas where in CH are you? I have an apt in Lugano.

Bob

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Winfried,

Two issues. 1) Do you have a serial to parallel converter connected to
the Palmtop serial port?  You might also need and adaptor after the S/P
converter before you connect to the printer parallel port.

2) You need to use one of the three built in Palmtop drivers from the
setup screen.  Epson, IBM or HP Laserjet.  Your printer need to be able
to imulate one of those three drivers.  Check your printer manual.  If
you have these things in place it should work.   =Bob=

> The program works fine, but it does not print, neither by cable nor by
> Infrared. Word tells me after the Print command: Printer not ready. I
> have the MODE LPT1=COM1 in the Startup commands for the SC Work area
> for Word.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:58:13 -0400
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On 7/23/99 at 11:18 PM Anand Rao wrote, in part:

>The recommendation here some time back was to start recharging when the
>voltage drops below 2.5 volts. And therefore I ended up charging the
>batteries so often.

Again, others should comment as I have very little experience with either
NiMHs *or* ABC/LX at this point.  But I believe there has also been some
discussion about setting the "trip" threshold lower, at least partially in
connection with the statements that NiMHs should be discharged down to
about 1V before being recharged.  As for me, I run on the "ragged edge"
since I'm never far from an electrical outlet; at present I start charging
just above the "low main battery" warning (not that I would recommend that
to anyone!)

>And thanks for the tip on the timers in ABC/LX. I had
>seen this before, but it skipped my attention.

What I'm doing is jotting down (in Notetaker) the total battery time each
time the batteries hit the "start charge" point, as well as the peak
voltage they reach.  I am hopeful this will clue me in to any aging or
deterioration of the cells.  When I see that I intend to swap them out with
the other set and do some full, rigorous discharge/charge cycles on them.
According to what I've read here, that should help restore them.  (Again,
comments invited from anyone who knows about this stuff!)

>What is the normal expected time between charges for these batteries in a
>DS RAM upgraded unit? I am concerned that the voltage drops too fast even
>if the unit is not used.

Can't say, as I've never owned a DS unit, my internal RAM is only 4MB, I'm
running a 48MB flashcard, and I have my shutdown time trimmed to one
minute... hardly representative of what you own!  Perhaps someone else can
comment on your particular situation.  What I CAN tell you is that, on my
first full cycle on the 1.3AH batteries (the only full cycle I've gone
through so far), I managed 13.5 hours of battery operation, which
translated to about three weeks of use compared to about one week on 900
mAH NiCads.  My peak charging voltage on that set was 2.95 volts.  (As I
mentioned, the 1.5AH cells I have in there now didn't climb that high.)

>Maybe,as you say, it needs more 'experiencing' from my side.

Well, I'd definitely suggest taking some time to "get to know" the
batteries and see how they do for you... as I noted, NiMHs are different
from what you may be used to.  If they really do die quickly, I'd start
making some noise.  You definitely have a bunch of witnesses that can
attest to the fact that you had this problem right away, so maybe that
would help with warranty issues as well!  ;¬)

Let us know how it goes, Anand.

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Tim Pitman writes:
> Is there a chance, therefore, of using other NE-2000 clone network cards in
> the palmtop?

If the power requirements are met, and you can find a packet driver
with source code that works in a laptop, then certainly.  If you don't
have source code, then maybe (depending upon Mack - he's the PCMCIA
wizard).

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> them as a template to generate the "actual" items - which does not
> succeed of course. Fixed now in the version I have. Will be available
> within a few days.

Andreas - this will be great. I am enjoying figuring out all the neat
features in PIM/PE.  I'm even reading the docs!! Thanks for your help.

Barbara

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Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> The only thing that the palmtop does during the deep sleep (power off)
> and power up cycle that can cause the problems you mention is because the
> BIOS tells DOS that the A: drive (which DOS sees as a removable media,
> like a floppy) was changed (been removed and replaced possible with
> something different).  As a result of this command from the BIOS, DOS
> will discard any data left in the buffers for files that were open on
> the flash card.  I believe this is what is corrupting your files.

In the dim, dark recesses of my mind, I remember a program for the
palmtop which changed the behaviour of this, making DOS think that the
drive has not been changed.

İChecking SDK directory on flash card ...¨

The program is "fixeda.com", and is available in the sdk files on
http://comports.com/hplx, or from the official HP ISV kit, or from the
Thaddeus Infobase CD.  Maybe someone from Thaddeus can put it up on
SUPER as a separate program ?

If Stanley's diagnosis of your problem is correct, then this is the cure.

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David Sargeant writes:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:
>
> > 9/ Remove support for IEEE 802.3 and ArcNet (as opposed to Ethernet).
>
> If I recall correctly, PDIPX (for using the palmtop and packet driver as a
> Netware client) requires 802.3 support. Removing it from the packet driver
> could cause loss of support for Netware servers...

Excellent!  An example of the open development process preventing
problems before they occur.

David, will you be able to beta test the driver sans 802.3 support and
confirm that it is actually required ?

And thanks to Andreas for checking my plans against WWW/LX's
requirements.  This should save a couple of hundred precious TSR bytes
for WWW/LX users running over the ethernet card.

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Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:36:55 -0500 (EST)

Greetings Tomas!

10h17m57s ago ...
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I finaly gotten MSNET to work.
> It was my employer who had aktivated the NoFileSharing in the win95
> registry. (done every time I logon to our NT server).

        Would you mind "ZIPping" your MSNET( or whatever) directory and
        passing it along? I have tried getting this to work, but
        success eludes me. I seem to have all the drivers loaded...the
        .ini files seem OK, but I can't see any of the other machines
        on the network when I "NET START". I don't see anyactivity on
        the hub either, so I don't think I have communication w/ the
        network. I can only assume that one of the drivers (ACCTON
        card, or NETBUEI is fautly). Any help you could offer would be
        most appreciated ;-)

        BTW, my Lab(work) network consists of W95 & WFW3.11 machines,
        no NT, so I'm afraid I'm of no help with your NT server
        question.

Cheers,

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Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:52:05 -0500 (EST)

01h04m46s ago ...
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Al Kind wrote:

> Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:36:55 -0500 (EST)
>
> Greetings Tomas!
>
> ...

        Oops, sorry :-(

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Hi,I posted about a week ago on some problems connecting to palmtop.com((now
solved:modem speed apparently set too high(19200)though some suggested that
works.9600 seems fine.
    The problem I still have is connectivity to the Desktop PC via the HP
Connectivity pack,or via Transfile.All possible configurations have been
tried,then last night it suddenly connected fine with Transfile at
57,600((HP on com1,PC on Com2,using the good old serial cable.I played
around exploring Transfile for an hour,transferred acouple of files,it
worked OK,went to bed after disconnecting.
    Today,using the same configuration((and others))nada.Not a hint of
recognition.Meanwhile,my 620LX syncs just fine and dandy from the same Com
port,with a different cable
    Yours.
        Frustrated in Claremont.

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Andreas Said:
WWW/LX supports 802.3, but frankly, I doubt that anybody uses it. So I
assume this should not be a problem. Anybody on the list who uses
802.3?
*************************
I for one was going to write Rod directly and ask if he could leave the
802.3 in.  Accessing my network would be darn near impossible without it.  I
could get by with the full driver if this just took too much space though.
( Sorry Rod , I'm not a programmer, just a customer(?)).
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Date:         Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:58:04 -0400
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> > Steve Carder wrote:
> > PS, if this works, it will be my first post here using WWW/LX.
>
> No, did not work :-) Congratulations!
>
> Andreas

Hmmmm, well if it didn't work I will have to send a nasty note
to the programmer.  Wait...if the communications program
doesn't work, I _can't_ send a complaint.  Ah ha!  Now I
understand Andreas' devious plan to reduce criticism <eg>.

PS, I now have Quick/LX (and BuddyDOS) running in this SC session,
so I can type a lot faster.  Maybe I will send _that_ programmer
a nice note <g>.

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From:         Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Hi LXperts

If I type *ticket numbers* in column A, and a short text description
in column B, how do I get the text to follow it's ticket number when I
sort the A column?


TIA,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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was: RAM Disk/System RAM resize utility

>> Is there a utility that can resize the size of the RAM Disk, without
>> having to go into Setup?

>I strongly doubt it.  The RAM partition is something very
>particular to the palmtop and it's operation is probably
>burried very deep in the ROM-based drivers.

But CXCTL on SUPER seems to be able to everything else, that is in setup.
Maybe someone knows what needs to be done, to resize the RAM partition,
without entering setup.

>With your 1MB machine, I don't know if you can do what you want
>to anyway.  You are going to need to store all of the drivers
>needed for the Ethernet card and the EMail access program all
>on the C: drive and you will need a good amount of available
>RAM to load and run these programs.

Ok.  Plug my ethernet card in.  Reboot the computer.  In my autoexec.bat
check if the ethernet is in there.  If it is, run the ethernet drivers.
Resize the RAM drive, so it is 636kb, and RAM is the rest.  Using CCLXPOP,
download the mail onto the RAM drive.  Now turn off the HPLX, replace with
the flash card, reboot.  The autoexec.bat on the flash card will check if
there are any files in the MAIL directory, on the RAM drive.  Move the files
over to the flash card, if they're there.  Then, simply modify the CC:Mail
config files, I guess.

>What Ethernet card do you have, do you kknow if it even works
>in the palmtop and do you have the drivers and know that the
>whole thing will even work?  And if it does work, could you
>please tell us about it because I know this is something I and
>lots of others would be interested in.

Yes.  Ethernet works.  The card is a SVEC PN605B, compatible with NE2000,
and it works with the drivers on SUPER for the Accton.  I've telneted and
FTP'ed from it.  But I haven't tried CCLXPOP, since my mail is often too
much for the small 384kb ram drive.  And I'd like it all to be automated...
Much easier..

I'd get a larger unit, but they're so damned expensive here in Australia.
Especially for us students. ;)  It's not possible to upgrade a 1MB 100LX,
anyways, is it?

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:15:59 +0930
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Bob Penick writes:
> I for one was going to write Rod directly and ask if he could leave the
> 802.3 in.  Accessing my network would be darn near impossible without it.  I
> could get by with the full driver if this just took too much space though.

I will keep 802.3 support.  Just one customer is enough :-)

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:17:50 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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bob wrote:
> When PE is invoked with the @ (pe @) and it reads in the SRCLIST to
> define the operating environment (open files): Is it possible to call a
> file other than SRCLIST?

No that file name is fixed.

But there are different ways to do what you want.

One way is to use the F6 feature: specify files that you often need in
the İMenu¨ section of PE.CFG and F6 provides you with a menu of those
files.

A next way is to have a plain text file that looks like

 c:\pim\data\notes.pim    Misc. Notes
 c:\pim\data\secret.pim   Passwords
 c:\pim\data\ideas.pim    Ideas/Plans/Visions
 ...

(without the indentation) This file(s) you can, for example, access
from F6. When you place the cursor on any of the lines and press Ctrl-X
O, PE opens the corresponding file for you. You can speed that up using
a macro if you like.

Also, if your files stick to a certain naming convention, you can also
use wild cards to open a group of files.

> Is there a mechanism for "going back" (to backtrack) after jumping to a
> link?

See my other message where I tried to explain the linking stuff with
parents and children. You can always go both directions.

> A very useful tool would be a conversion program from PE to HTML to
> maintain all PE/PIM links in HTML.

This is not really possible as links in HTML cannot be ambiguous while
they can in PE. Also, the links in PE are computed on the fly while
links in HTML are "built into the document" and go one direction only,
thus multiple HTML documents would have to be changed in order to
update one "PE link".

> This way information could be
> developed in PE and then translated to HTML with links intact.

If you want hyperlinks, you'd better do them in HTML directly.

> A suggestion: It would be nice to have a file/database header so that
> the field names (labels) don't have to be repeated in each record, and
> with the ability to tab to the end of each label / beginning of each
> data field. (perhaps more database like than you intended)

Have a look at the Ctrl-C features. I think it does what you need. It
is described in PE.DOC (database features).

> P.S. Andreas where in CH are you?

In Winterthur.

> I have an apt in Lugano.

For vacation or do you live there?

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:17:54 +0100
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Steve Carder wrote:
> to the programmer.  Wait...if the communications program
> doesn't work, I _can't_ send a complaint.  Ah ha!  Now I
> understand Andreas' devious plan to reduce criticism <eg>.

Ouch! You got me! <G>

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:56:02 +0000
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David Sargeant wrote in reply to Ed Falk:

> So... would it be possible to write an 11C emulator for the 200LX?


I believe it's been done already. Look out for Xact
Calculators. They emulate 11C, 12C & 16C. I'm pretty certain I
found my copy on the SUPER site.
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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:56:03 +0000
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I'm curious Ed. What made the 16C "a piece of junk" if the 11C
was "the most elegant hand calculator ever made"?


Ed Falk wrote:

> Sadly, it got stolen, so I bought a 16C (because I do computer work.)
> The 16C was a piece of junk.  It got stolen (I barely minded), so I
> bought a 15C.  It got stolen before I'd even finished reading the
> manual.
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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:22:07 +1000
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Hello All

I am going to the USA for 6 weeks from 30 August.  This is a holiday
trip, not business.

I would like to keep in touch with friends via email during this time.

I am going to:
 San Francisco
 Seattle
 New York
 Then a 1 month camping trip from New York to Los Angeles through the
  south.


The options are:

1) leave palmtop at home in Australia, and use internet cafee's.  What
are typical costs here?  In europe, I used some which I just had to buy
a drink, and got to use for 45 minutes.  I assume they would be pretty
available.

2) Take palmtop. How hard would it be to find phones to connect the
palmtop to in public places?  I will not be in Hotels most of the trip.
Also, is there any free internet access accounts in the USA that I can
use in the USA like the ones in the UK? Otherwise I would have to sign
up for an international account like MSN.

Thanks

David Eggins

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:03:54 -0400
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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  >>As for me, I run on the "ragged edge" since I'm never far
from an electrical outlet; at present I start charging just
above the "low main battery" warning (not that I would
recommend that to anyone!)<<

Actually, the "ragged edge" would be installing Mack Baggette's
program that kills the low battery warnings and automatic shut
off.  Then you can run the batteries down to 2.1 or 2.0 (if they
can handle it).  This obviously requires good backups until you
learn the tolerances for your set of batteries.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:08:30 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 123 sort
Comments: To: jlarosa@bellsouth.net

   >If I type *ticket numbers* in column A, and a short text description
   >in column B, how do I get the text to follow it's ticket number
   >when I sort the A column?
Message-Id: <19990725130840.SUCZ5731@İ12.72.161.122¨>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:08:40 +0000

123 is somewhat unique in that it doesn't expect each row to be fully
linked, hence sorting one column doesn't automatically sort the others on
the row.

You have to define the affected area (ie, data and sort keys) using the
/DataSortRange (or something like that...sorry, I can't get to my LX right
now without waking everyone). Highlight all the cells that are affected by
the sort, including all rows in columns A and B.

The notion was that a single spreadsheet might have little mini-tables
scattered all about and you wouldn't want those other tables accidentally
sorted if they happened to be on the same row...this was a concept that
predated having multiple spreadsheets with linking.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:27:46 -0500
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Thanks for the tips.  Unfortunately, even though I tried to put in the
column names using Wordpad  I still can't get Organizer to import the
CSV file.  I'll fiddle around with it some more and see if I can find
the right combination to make it work.

By the way,  how would I use GDBLOAD to import the file?  Do you mean
use GDBLOAD to import to the database then SmartClip to Appointments?
Perhaps using a macro?

Regards,
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>1) leave palmtop at home in Australia, and use internet cafee's.  What
>are typical costs here?  In europe, I used some which I just had to

I don't know about cafes, but most of our libraries are netted up,
generally use is free, but limited to 30 minutes.

>2) Take palmtop. How hard would it be to find phones to connect the
>palmtop to in public places?  I will not be in Hotels most of the

It is a little difficult to find public phones, except in airports, that
will accept plugging in a modem.  Any house will have the plugs.

>Also, is there any free internet access accounts in the USA that I can
>use in the USA like the ones in the UK? Otherwise I would have to sign

Try:
http://netzero.net/

There is another couple but I can't seem to find them now.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:21:02 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:16:42 -0400 (EDT)

12m48s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Steve Carder wrote:

>   >>As for me, I run on the "ragged edge" since I'm never far
> from an electrical outlet; at present I start charging just
> above the "low main battery" warning (not that I would
> recommend that to anyone!)<<
>
> Actually, the "ragged edge" would be installing Mack Baggette's
> program that kills the low battery warnings and automatic shut
> off.  Then you can run the batteries down to 2.1 or 2.0 (if they
> can handle it).

I know some folks do this, and have come to no harm...  It still seems
like a VERY risky act.  While it's true that NiCd and NiMH cells should
be discharged to 1.0 V to maintain capacity, the palmtop doesn't
particularly like extremely low battery valtage - it may go into
"backup mode" if you push it too far.

Another thing to think about:  Batteries are rarely perfectly matched.
One cell in the set will almost always go first.  At a reading of 2 V,
you may have one cell at 1.2 V (and a couple of hours use left), and
the other at .8 V (and a couple of minutes left).

> This obviously requires good backups until you
> learn the tolerances for your set of batteries.

Absolutely! - preferably an EXTERNAL backup - not just one on a flash
card!  Anyone want to volunteer to find out what happens to the data on
the card if the palmtop shuts itself off in the middle of writing the
FAT on the card?

It's MUCH safer to swap battery sets when capacity gets too low,
discharge cells individually to 1 V or lower and recharge (outside the
palmtop).  Doing this a few times should restore capacity.

HTH

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:57:24 -0500
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Subject:      Re: USA Travel - To bring or not to bring HPLX?

Bring yor LX its good for other stuff besides Comm.
Yu kan use comm anywhere there's a rj11 outlet
which is most indoors places yu stay, GHs, libraries,
etc.  NY Public Lib and the other cities yu plan to stop at also got FREE
internet terminals (30min).  If yu got
yor LX yu can hook up and bypass the 30min limit.
Stay there all day if yu wanna.  If yu can put up with the smelly
homeless looking at porno on the web.

>I am going to the USA for 6 weeks from 30 August.
>I would like to keep in touch with friends via email
during this time.
>

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:45:28 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Anand:

> The recommendation here some time back was to start recharging when the
> voltage drops below 2.5 volts. And therefore I ended up charging the
> batteries so often.  And thanks for the tip on the timers in ABC/LX. I had
> seen this before, but it skipped my attention.

I think you can start charging at other voltages. The
recommendation you quote may have been a rough rule of thumb.
You probably want to tell ABC/LX to start charging at such a
voltage that will assure you that batteries are always
available for your needs. For a long time, my activities were
pretty much stable nd predictable so I started charging at
2.42V because I knew that I will always be back near an
adapter before the batteries ran out when I left the office.

Now my activities are not as predictable so I start charging
when the voltage is about 2.53V which basically has an effect
of topping them off almost each time I plug in tthe adapter.
Which is fine with me, it tends to assure me of full
batteries, no matter what I am going to do.

ABC/LX lets you implement various strategies along these
lines. Check out the docs, then start ABC.EXE and press F2 and
enjoy... You always have to add of your own experience and
what you have observed, and what your habits are. The variance
among battery pairs as well as the variation among people in
terms of how they use the machine, makes it difficult to
pinpoint a specific formula, and a recommended starting point
is almost never the exact right place...

I had a customer who developed two completely different
strategies for ABC/LX depending on the days of the week. He
worked part time, and was a student too. When he worked (in a
hotel, mind you! :-¨) he was always close to an adapter and
the strategy was of course to let the batteries run down much
further than on the days he was at the university. So on the
day before his university day, he ran an appointment which ran
a batch file whoch ran ABCUTIL.EXE to set up some parameters
that meant more charging etc.

ABCUTIL.EXE is part of a freeware package we have on the ftp
site which helps you control parameters via a utility program.
Run it without any parameters and it'll list what it can do.

You can get pretty elaborate with the stuff. You can setup an
appointment that runs every 15 minutes for example and runs
ABCUTIL LOG, which will record the date, time and voltage,
then feed the set of measurements into Lotus and plot the
discharge curve.

You can find the voltage of the backup battery, find the
values of all the parameters, and set each of them to another
value, remove the display from the F1 label, etc etc... This
has been out there since May/June 1996. Not surprising, since
ABC/LX was the first product of D&A.

Have fun.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:47:47 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

> İDOSED¨
> marginally on WinNT).  So Thanks, Daniel.  He didn't tell me where
> one can find the program ... maybe it's available on the Simtel
> archives?

Oops, sorry - Yes, I think you can find it on simtel.
But I cannot say it for sure. My brother (also a fanatic palmtopper ;-)
) gave me this program.
So, if anyone wants to have it and _didn't_find_ it on simtel, please
let me know, I'll send it to you.
Maybe I'll let Mitch place it on SUPER, if more are interested and if
Mitch has the time and disk space...

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:12:39 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      HP200, fountain pens, slide rules and Tube amplifiers
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Some of us have disclosed our vintage and discussed our fondness for items
(2) and (3) above, in addition to the HP palmtop. The revival of tube (or
valve, as some would say) amplifiers should be of interest to some of us.

Going back into history a bit, solid state electronics gradually phased out
tubes from most applications and most tube/valve manufacturers closed shop,
at least for the consumer market. Only a few remained, mostly in China and
the Eastern Bloc countries.  I'm sure if we had a similar List in those
days one would have seen similar laments when Western Electric stopped
production of the venerable WE300B triode tube.

As it happened, someone revived the production line a couple of decades
later, using the same equipment, production process and even some of the
old staff. Over a period of time several other manufacturers entered the
field and also developed 'improved' versions. The tube amplifier movement
is almost mainstream now and no one thinks of tube aficionados as 'cult
members'.

Maybe there is some hope from all this for the HP palmtop fans!

Anand.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:40:10 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Anand Rao wrote:
>
> Some of us have disclosed our vintage and discussed our fondness for items
> (2) and (3) above, in addition to the HP palmtop. The revival of tube (or
> valve, as some would say) amplifiers should be of interest to some of us.
>
(I deleted to save space)
Great! Now I'm using a palmtop that is analogous to a vaccum tube!
Reminds me of the time a good friend of mine told me about my analog
wrist watch "hey, you have a CLOCK strapped to your arm!". Ha.
Bryan

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Bob (and Andreas),

<<Observation: PE/PIM is almost an outliner too! The whole concept is
reminiscent of a DOS version of Works.

Although I don't see it replacing my built-in PIMs (more cumbersome than
my needs require / too high a learning curve for effort spent) I see a
definite value for other work I'm doing - trying to organize
information.My current primary use of built in PIMS is a modified
database (gdb) that I use for my todo list. (you are correct, the built
in todo list is deficient.) Built in appts and phone book are adequate
for me.>>

OK, you just got my attention.  Built-in PHONE and APPT are fine for me (my
backup system usually beats the corruption problem). However, I like
outliners a lot and I still haven't managed to come up with a todo list that
I like.  I use a combination of Appt's TODO and a GDB file, and NoteTaker to
keep track of employee assignments.  Has Andreas come up with THE ANSWER?

I just don't have the time or inclination, though, to go through a big
learning curve.

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<<I would be willing to give time to help out because I think it is a worthy
project.>>

Thank you Jeff and all the people that have responded. Ed will probably get
back to everyone next week some time.  We continue to welcome volunteers to
help convert 50 issues of THE HP PALMTOP PAPER to HTML for the web and our
annual CD.

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On 7/25/99 at 9:03 AM Steve Carder wrote:

>>>As for me, I run on the "ragged edge" since I'm never far
>from an electrical outlet; at present I start charging just
>above the "low main battery" warning (not that I would
>recommend that to anyone!)<<
>
>Actually, the "ragged edge" would be installing Mack Baggette's
>program that kills the low battery warnings and automatic shut
>off.  Then you can run the batteries down to 2.1 or 2.0 (if they
>can handle it).  This obviously requires good backups until you
>learn the tolerances for your set of batteries.
>
>Steve Carder

<Laughing> Well, I suppose just like "One man's trash is another man's
treasure," it's true that "One man's ragged edge is another man's middle of
the road!"

Thanks anyway, but the edge I'm on is raggedy enough for me. ;¬)  After I
get some experience with these batteries, *maybe* I'll try tinkering with
more extreme approaches.  I have a backup machine and a spare CF card, so I
can even run controlled tests without risking precious data.  But until I
know it's necessary, I'm not interested in going quite that far.  If I can
get a few months use out of a set of NiMHs before they deteriorate enough
to have to be "reconditioned," and if said reconditioning restores them to
their prime, then I'll be quite happy with that, with no need for more
drastic measures.

Rick

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:03:49 -0400
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On 7/25/99 at 11:56 AM Chris Randle wrote:

>I'm curious Ed. What made the 16C "a piece of junk" if the 11C
>was "the most elegant hand calculator ever made"?
>
>Ed Falk wrote:
>
>> Sadly, it got stolen, so I bought a 16C (because I do computer work.)
>> The 16C was a piece of junk.  It got stolen (I barely minded), so I
>> bought a 15C.  It got stolen before I'd even finished reading the
>> manual.

I wondered the same thing.  I used a 16C for many years -- in fact pulled
it out of the drawer for the month that my (then lone) LX was dead from a
pocket-dive -- and found it to be a well-designed, capable little
computer-math calculator.   (It was also fun watching business types at the
office grab my machine thinking it was a 12C, then getting these really
perplexed looks on their faces when they turned it on and saw *letters*on
the display!  <Laughing>)

Rick,
who thinks *someone* must have liked Ed's 16C enough to swipe it.

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On 7/23/99 at 12:02 PM Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote in part, and in reference
to X-Finder:

>Coupled with TaskBar I now have my palmtop setup and running exactly like
my
>Omnibook/Decktop running Win95/98.  Now if you don't use Win95/98 thats
>another story. I read a post from another list member who is setting
his/she up
>like a Mac.
>
>See the 100/200LX is all things. So give X-Finder another try, you won't
be
>sorry. Have fun, learn and discover something new.

Quinton (or anyone), where would one find TaskBar?  If there's been any
recent mention of it on the list I missed it, and I came up empty on both
SUPER and lx.net.  I'd kind of like to take a look at this one.

Thanks,
Rick

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:04:10 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Word 5.5
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I dunno why they mentioned the FTP site at all.  There's a link in the box
just to the left of the text column, with a link labeled "Download Now!"
that pulls down WD55_ENG.EXE.

Rick

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On 7/19/99 at 9:40 PM Don E. Weatherly wrote:

İSNIP¨

>The page at http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloaddetails/wd55eng.htm
>mentions "If you wish to create diskettes of Microsoft Word 5.5 for
MS-DOS,
>you can download a ZIP file that will create a directory by connecting to
>ftp.microsoft.com."
>
>I searched the FTP site but did not find a file which appeared to be the
>one to which they referred.  Does anyone have any idea to which file the
>page refers?

İSNIP¨

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Is there a small DOS program which will allow me to set the screen mode as
if I had pressed {ON+*}?  I'm running a startup .bat for Rogue and would
like to be able to set the screen the way that I always do when I run it.

I have tried SETIT.exe, CXCTL.exe, and CONTRAST.com already, but I haven't
been able to change the screen as if pressing {ON+*}.

Thanks!

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:47:07 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Hal Goldstein wrote:
> Has Andreas come up with THE ANSWER?

I have come up with A answer. One that fits my needs. I can group tasks
using categories and define views so that I can get an overview of all
the maky tasks. For example, I can press "d" and see all tasks that are
delegated to somebody in the office, or I press "p" and see all my
private tasks or I press "f" and see all the tasks that will come up in
the future. Currently, tasks can be sorted by date (and reverse date)
and by priority. Since priority is most often not an absolute thing (a
task that is important but not urgent increases in priority when the
due date comes closer, for example), I am currently working on a
sorting order that takes these kinds of things into consideration.

> I just don't have the time or inclination, though, to go through a big
> learning curve.

There was a man, trying to cut a big tree with a completely blunt saw.
Somebody came by and asked the man why he does not sharpen the saw. He
answered that he has no time to do that because he has to cut the tree.
;-)

Andreas

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PE 2.2b and PIM 1.0a are now available from www.dasoft.com as pe.zip
and pim.zip.

New in these versions:

- TAB and Shift-TAB now do the same as Ctrl-Down and Ctrl-Up
- PE: +/- on times in AM/PM format did not work properly
- PE: Fixed bug that crashed PE when no file was given upon start
- PE: Margin=n in the İFile¨ section of PE.CFG now sets the left
  margin to n for printing
- Appointments with times given using AM/PM were not displayed
- Removed the "CTRL on startup makes loading faster" feature
- PIM now creates a swap file (SWAP.IDX) in the index directory.
  If no data was changed since starting PIM.EXE for the last time,
  this swap file is used instead of computing all the data, which
  makes startup much faster.

The last feature has not been extensively tested yet. Just in case you
find any problems with it, please let me know and add

FastLoad=0

to the İPIM¨ section of PIM.CFG. This disables the feature.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:46:13 -0400
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Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:43:36 -0400 (EDT)

39m23s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Rick Rae wrote:

> Quinton (or anyone), where would one find TaskBar?  If there's been any
> recent mention of it on the list I missed it, and I came up empty on =
both
> SUPER and lx.net.  I'd kind of like to take a look at this one.

Hi Rick-

Try:
        http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm
This was posted a few days ago by Steve Dowell

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> If I type *ticket numbers* in column A, and a short text description
> in column B, how do I get the text to follow it's ticket number when I
> sort the A column?

Put in the numbers and text you need.  You might try this on a
small practice spreadsheet until you have it going smoothly.
Now type/select Menu Data Sort Data-Range.  Press Esc if there
is more than one cell highlighted.  Now move to the top of your
number column and press the period key.  Now move the cursor to
the bottom of your text column.  You should have all of both
columns highlighted now.  Press Enter (this tells 123 that the
two columns are a group, not seperate).  You could also give
these columns a range name to show 123 that they are a group
and then put that range name into the Data-Range.  Now select
Primary-key and highlight the top of your number column and
press Enter.  Now choose Ascending or Descending.  This tells
123 to sort based on this column.  Now press G for Go and it
should all be sorted.

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Subject:      WWW/LX and NEWS.HPLX.NET problem
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I have a problem with posting to NEWS.HPLX.NET.  Whenever I
compose a reply or new message in WWW/LX, it has no date line in
the outbox.  There actually is a header like:

 ----ND-------------hplx2-
 Date:
 From: Steve Carder <S_Carder@compuserve.com>
 Newsgroups: hp200.general
 Subject: another repost that "bounced"
 X-Mailer: POST/LX 2.2d
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't know if it is significant, but the date line above
actually is full of empty spaces with a Return above the dot in
".com".  When I try to send these messages, the are refused
with a "can't parse date" error.  I am pretty sure this started
when I tried to update my time zone in Post setup.  I
originally had "-6" and someone mentioned that the timestamp of
my posts was incorrect.  I changed the line to "-6:00", "-0600"
"0000" and left it empty, but each time I get messages with no
date line.  I also tried editing the outbox file in Memo and
pasting in a date line from an older message I still had.  This
also "bounced", however.

So, any ideas about how to fix this?  If this works, then the
mailing list server doesn't care if my posts have a valid date
line, since they don't either.

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> I'd get a larger unit, but they're so damned expensive here in Australia=
.
> Especially for us students. ;)  It's not possible to upgrade a 1MB =
100LX,
> anyways, is it?

I have a 5 Meg 200LX that started life as a 1 Meg machine.  Is
yours a 100LX or 200LX?  If it is a 200LX, then it can be
upgraded, but you would have to mail it off somewhere.  Check
www.palmtoppaper.com and/or www.rundel-d.com for more
information and prices.  You could also look for a used 2 Meg
machine on eBay (www.eBay.com, I think).

Steve Carder (using a 32 Meg machine currently)

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Peniel
Just want to let you know that X-Finder is up and running better than ever.
Thanks to you and the other list members.
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Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:04:11 +0100 (BST)

38m22s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:25:49 -0700 (CST), Steve Carder wrote:

> I changed the line to "-6:00", "-0600"
> "0000" and left it empty, but each time I get messages with no
> date line.

It is normal to have the Date: line not filled in for any unsent
outbox message (mail or news). To change the TimeZone I recomment
using setup - Ctrl-E from POST/LX main screen. Then press F3 (Global)
and alt-Z (Time Zone). Then press F1 for help on that field (works
everywhere in setup BTW). The choice that should work is the -0600.

I could be wrong but I think NEWS/LX will use your palmtop date and
POST.CFG TimeZone to fill in the date-field when the message is sent.

Oh, it could be this: maybe your date is set back to 1980 after a
CTRL-SHIFT-ON? *That* one has happened to me<G>.

e-mail is different - the default way that POST/LX works is it uses the
smtp server date/time-zone  *in the sent message*, but puts the palmtop
date in the Date: field in the outbox after the message is sent.

Good Luck Steve!

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Steve Carder wrote:
> I have a problem with posting to NEWS.HPLX.NET.  Whenever I
> compose a reply or new message in WWW/LX, it has no date line in
> the outbox.

The date line is filled in when the message is sent, not when the
message is composed.

> my posts was incorrect.  I changed the line to "-6:00", "-0600"

Try "-0600" for a difference to UST of -6 hours.

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Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:

Is there a small DOS program which will allow me to set the screen mode as
if I had pressed {ON+*}?  I'm running a startup .bat for Rogue and would
like to be able to set the screen the way that I always do when I run it.

I have tried SETIT.exe, CXCTL.exe, and CONTRAST.com already, but I haven't
been able to change the screen as if pressing {ON+*}.


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Hi Terrence,

Are you sure your not talking about the İON¨+İ/¨. If so Try SleepOn.

HTH




Regards,

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:16:15 EDT
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From:         David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: old technology (HP12C), HP16C

I have a HP16C. I don't use it very often. I had to think about what I
was doing when I used RPN. This calculator was very handy for one
attribute. It did base number conversions with one keystroke. There was
no alt or funct key to convert from hex to binary or octal or whatever.
When I got the 16C I was doing data recovery and had to use hex addition
and subtraction and often convert status errors in hex to binary to see
what bits were set. This unit was great for the number conversions. I
traded a couple of network cables for the unit (Corvallis HP bldg 4
upper).

dmp
>>> The 16C was a piece of junk.  It got stolen (I barely minded), so I
>>> bought a 15C.  It got stolen before I'd even finished reading the
>>> manual.

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I've gotten TBLX up and running. My thoughts are that it is a nifty program,
and it makes your palmtop act very similiarly to a Win95/98 desktop, and I
think I will probably continue to use it, but.... it's really not very
efficient keystroke-wise.

For instance, I have a DOS program that I use regularly. Normally I would
launch that program by hitting More+'T'. Boom! It's up. (2 button pushes)

For TBLX I have to hit a hotkey sequence to bring up the TBLX taskbar, hit
menu to pop up the Start button, hit 'P'  to position the highlight at
"Programs", move the highlight to my program and hit ENTER. (about 6 button
pushes)  And since the "Program" menu has several sub-menus, it means that
there can be even more button pushes! (This is basically what you would do
to select a program from the Start menu of a Win95 desktop.)

Having said that... I really DO like TBLX!  : )   Plus, it forced me to
become familiar with Moreexm and Exmbatch.

Thanks to Qman for his help off list regarding Xfinder and TBLX!

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Subject:      12 volts

Hello

Does anyone know what the 12 volts does on the LX board? TIA

John

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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49m08s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

> Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:
>
> Is there a small DOS program which will allow me to set the screen mode =
as
> if I had pressed {ON+*}?  I'm running a startup .bat for Rogue...

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> Are you sure your not talking about the İON¨+İ/¨. If so Try SleepOn.

Ummm- I think he really means İOn¨İ*¨ - I also play Rogue, and you need
that to make some screen items visible (changes gray scale to
dithered).  Unfortunately, I've never found a way to automate it.
Rogue doesn't need the screen invert function.

-Peniel
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Message text written by INTERNET:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
>> So... would it be possible to write an 11C emulator for the 200LX?


I believe it's been done already. Look out for Xact
Calculators. They emulate 11C, 12C & 16C. I'm pretty certain I
found my copy on the SUPER site.
<

I've used the Xact emulators, especially the 16C, on desktops. You really=

need to be familiar with the operation of the calculators before trying t=
o
use them. As I recall there's no instructions to duplicate those that com=
e
with the calcs themselves. Also they rely on the gold and blue keys.
Awfully hard to pick those colors off the screen of the LX.  Other than
that they're very faithful emulators and are even programmable.  =


.ed.

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Message text written by INTERNET:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
> =

I'm curious Ed. What made the 16C "a piece of junk" if the 11C
was "the most elegant hand calculator ever made"?

<

I'm yet another Ed and I thought the 16C was pretty darn good for what it=

was designed to do: computer math. It beat the socks off the competition
when it came to market. I developed several courses based on that little
machine and wrote two books about computer math. Even developed a 16C
emulator for the HP 41C.  =

None of these are available any longer.  For Cmath I like the CMCALC
program for the 200LX. CMCALC is available on SUPER. =


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----- Original Message -----
From: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 2:47 PM
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> PE 2.2b and PIM 1.0a are now available from www.dasoft.com as pe.zip
> and pim.zip.

The link appears broken as of Sunday afternoon.  Maybe it'll fix itself
later on?

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<<There was a man, trying to cut a big tree with a completely blunt saw.
Somebody came by and asked the man why he does not sharpen the saw. He
answered that he has no time to do that because he has to cut the tree.
;-)>>

Ah, Andreas: but what about saw sharpener? Is it appropriate for the job.
Are the instructions good enough for the man to comprehend.  These are deep
questions to ponder<g>.

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> know it's necessary, I'm not interested in going quite that far.  If I =
can
> get a few months use out of a set of NiMHs before they deteriorate =
enough
> to have to be "reconditioned," and if said reconditioning restores them =
to
> their prime, then I'll be quite happy with that, with no need for more
> drastic measures.


I have used a set of NiMH batteries in my palmtop for over a
year now.  I charge them in the palmtop whenever they get around
2.53 to 2.48 volts, which means that they are always have a lot
of power in them.  I never take them out to fully discharge them
or otherwise "condition" them.  They still work well and I can
run my PCMCIA modem whenever I want without worrying about the
batteries.  So, while "reconditioning" and full discharges may
provide better performance, I haven't seen a need in my own
usage.

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Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:00:54 +0100 (BST)

50m03s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:10:51 -0700 (CST), Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> > PE 2.2b and PIM 1.0a are now available from www.dasoft.com as pe.zip
> > and pim.zip.
>
> The link appears broken as of Sunday afternoon.  Maybe it'll fix itself
> later on?

Domingo

I just got them with these links

ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/PE/pe.zip
ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/PE/pim.zip

In POST/LX just "G" to grab them :)

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When I post messages to newsgroups I get sometimes a hard time from
people who tells me to turn off "Quoted printable"..what does that
mean? And how do I turn it off ?

Do the messages look different when they are quoted printable or
what..I have no idea what this means..

Thanks in advance..

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
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I still use my 16C although mostly as a simple 4 function calculator.
Cheers... Russ

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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:05:53 +0100 (BST)

43m14s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:22:39 -0700 (CST), Martin Bergvill wrote:

> When I post messages to newsgroups I get sometimes a hard time from
> people who tells me to turn off "Quoted printable"..

Press MENU M {for Message} ENTER

This toggles MIME-Encode which is probably what they refer to.

Alt-I does the same thing.

At the moment you will probably see MIME up there in the top status
line. Just press alt-I till the MIME goes off.

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Steve Dowell <swdowell@BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:

<snip>
it's really not very efficient keystroke-wise.

For instance, I have a DOS program that I use regularly. Normally I would
launch that program by hitting More+'T'. Boom! It's up. (2 button pushes)

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Hi Steve & List,

The 2 button push (hotkeys) are still there. Just use the ones that you
assigned the program in MoreExm.ini and App Manger.


HTH




Regards,

Qman...
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On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> Is there a small DOS program which will allow me to set the screen
> mode as if I had pressed {ON+*}?  I'm running a startup .bat for Rogue
> and would like to be able to set the screen the way that I always do
> when I run it.

I'm pretty sure LXSTAT (on SUPER) has this feature.

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In a message dated 7/23/99 7:21:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
qman@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

>  I configured cc.mail to access palmtop.com email....
>  > When connecting(F10),and selecting palmtop.com as Host,the 200lx froze
> very
>  > badly,giving the error message
>
>  I keep experiencing random hangs when using cc:Mail and Palmtop.Com so
>  I gave up using it.
>
>
>      -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------
>
>
>
>  Same here and that was over a month ago.
>  But as you can see that hasn't stopped me from using cc:Mail though. (:-)
>

I connect through direct-dial at 9600 baud as their website instructs, and I
have not had any problem.  Occasionally, their routers are busy and the
connection is broken.  The free palmtop cc:mail service piggybacks on ESP's
main business, which is supplying e-mail gateways to paying customers
(businesses, professionals, etc.).  That's what allows them to offer this
service to 200LX users at no charge, and which pretty much assures that the
service will continue for some time to come, notwithstanding the 200LX's long
goodbye.

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Subject:      Re: PIM/PE
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garz@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Wrote:
<snip>
>more power in certain areas (such as links between
>different kinds of data, more flexible data entry,
>better weekly view, categorizing appointments and
>todos, searches across different files) and that's
>why I use PIM/PE. If it works for you, i.e. if it >
>is not broken, don't fix it!


OK, I'm a late arrival on this one.

Seen some of the "reviews" folks have been writing.  Is this critter hard to
use? I'll ask the, perhaps hated question, "Can it synch w/ Outlook 98?"
Don't throw rocks at me :-)  We've just adopted this as the standard for
managing calendars at work İthe boss has one person put many schedules into
his calendar and then shares it out ... we can see changes immediately and
drag things we want to attend onto our own calendars. It'd be nice to get
all those reoccurring and odd appointments onto Outlook; then be able to
look at them w/ my 200LX¨.

Can PIM/PE show appointments, etc., even if they conflict? Sometimes we may
want to know what another staff member is doing, even though we may have an
appointment of our own going on.

Oh, and I read that you need to upgrade beyond PE 2.1, is this right?  {It
all runs under Super Software Carousel, doesn't it?}.

Sounds to me that I'm too far behind on the power curve of upgrade and
experimentation on this one -- from what I'm seeing, you all got on a MUCH
earlier train w/ this one....

Don't worry, I've got another "dated" question that I'm going to post next.
;-)

TIA!

--tim

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> It is normal to have the Date: line not filled in for any unsent
> outbox message (mail or news). To change the TimeZone I recomment
> using setup - Ctrl-E from POST/LX main screen. Then press F3 (Global)
> and alt-Z (Time Zone). Then press F1 for help on that field (works
> everywhere in setup BTW). The choice that should work is the -0600.

That worked.  Once I had noticed the blank date line, I tried
different settings for tiem zone and composed messages, but when
I saw the empty date line I didn't bother trying to send them.
I finally got the messages send just now with the time zone set
to "-0600".

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Subject:      OT: (sorta) Quicken 6.0

Hi all,

I've noticed that many folks here use Quicken 6.0 for DOS on their palmtops,
me too.

I've got two quick questions İone that I'm sure has been asked and answered
here before (sorry)¨.

1 - Is Quicken 6.0 for DOS Y2K Compliant; if not, is there a fix?

2 - Has anyone who uses it w/ CheckFree (or knows about this) found a way to
set up electronic payees with area codes outside its original parameters?  I
was in area code 817 (TX) and most of my 817 area became 254. Each time I
set up a payee in the 254 area I get an 'invalid area code' error (those
aren't the exact words, but you get the idea) and have to put 817 in. It
seems to compare the area code to the two char. field for "State". I imagine
there's a database somewhere in the C:\Quicken directory that could be
updated/edited/replaced. Any ideas?

TIA!!

--tim

PS. *If* this program ver. etc. won't work in 2000+ what are others doing? I
don't *HAVE* to use my palmtop to pay my bills, but it sure is nice to pull
out payment history whenever and wherever I have to make a point!

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Anand,

> Avi, I had always wondered who wrote those delightful pre-release notes
> about Micro$oft products and their features, but now I wonder no more :)

Uhoh!!! I am in troubles now! My partner and friend will now
totally excommunicate me and hate me forever because of this
revelation. :-)

Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Ed,

> My nephew is looking for a PDA.  He asked me if the 200LX would "synch"
> with Lotus Notes which is what he uses for email at work.

ANY machine can synch with the email side of Lotus Notes, it
just requires some work on the Lotus Notes server, not a big
problem.

There is a Notes synch with PalmPilot, but I cannot imagine
how much databases you can actually synch since the memory is
rather limited on that platform (PalmPilot). I believe there
maybe something out for WinCE (unless I sinned and
pre-announced it :-) ...) It is not from D&A, in case you
wonder <G>... I think there are severe limitations, to say the
least.

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Ed,

> The only problem is that it has no
> auto-shutoff. It goes into a power saving mode but if you leave it on for a
> day or so it runs down the battery.

I don't have one of those. Your comments as a user are
valuable! I was thinking that even if you wipe out a battery
by mistake, it is not hard to find a 9V battery.

My pocket modem is a Practical Peripherals FX type which runs
on 4 AAs in a little pod. I think the size is comprabale from
the once or twice I saw it (once Bob Newins showed it to me,
cannot recall who else, but saw it again....)

I wish this format modem were still being done today for the
faster modems.

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Rod Whitby Said:
I will keep 802.3 support.  Just one customer is enough :-)

************************************************************
Now that IS customer service!  And he makes so much money doing it. ;-)
I can't think of any where else but within our self help group where my
little wish would be granted so easily.
bob

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Andreas,

Thank you for the reply(s). I think that I will make up as many
different SRCLIST files as I want (named other names) and make up a
batch file for each, which, when invoked, will copy a specific file
"over the top of" SRCLIST and then run PE. I could do that with the CFG
files also if I wanted, giving me totally different environments for
different projects.

¬C seems to be a mechanism for viewing in a certain format, not for
inputting data. When I mentioned about the file header, I meant the
ability to define a database (still ascii) and have the definition at
the top of the file, not physically in each and every record. Ie. ( a
very simple file)
Physically the file would actually (literally) look like this:

İName:¨
İPhone:¨

.)  Bob
    1234
.)  John
    376
.)  Sally
    987

However, when viewing the file and entering data it would appear

Name:  Bob
Phone: 1234

(next record / next page)

Name: John
Phone: 376

(next record / next page)

Name: Sally
Phone: 987

(next record / next page)

Name:
Phone:

---------------
When entering data in the new or existing records, the cursor would skip
the header info (Name: and Phone:) and go directly to the data field.


With ¬C and entering Name: it would appear thus

Bob
John
Sally
----------
I hope that made some kind of sense. It is still probably more database
like than you intended.

You asked about Lugano, my intention is to "retire" to there part of the
year.

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Hal,
It seems to me (still preliminary inspection) that PE can be "jerry
rigged" to act like an outliner as follows:

    All first level (no indents) would have a specific letter group (1+)
at the end
    next level indents would have (2+)
    etc. down to the level you wanted to support (3+...)

Then type ¬C and enter the combination of the levels you want to
display.
Ie. Highest level only (for this illustration) would be 1+
    2 levels would be 1+ 2+
    3 level would be 1+ 2+ 3+ etc.

(Andreas, correct me if my understanding is wrong)

Now you see what I mean by "jerry rigged" but a functional outliner none
the less.

It would be really nice if Andreas decided that he needed an outliner
:-)

I am currently using a modified GDB (database) that does everthing that
I need for a todo list. It usually has over a hundred items, prioritized
from 1-99 and sorted by priority.( I always seem to have a lot of 3s or
4s!)  I can filter on categories and it is easy to re-priortize when a
task becomes more or less important. It can't interface with appts and
if I needed that I would switch to PIM/PE.

The advantage that I see to me of PIM/PE is the organization of large
amounts of information. Currently I am using Notetaker and Memo. Neither
which are all encompassing and each of which have specific strengths. I
think that the PIM/PE combo will give me all the advantages of each with
none of the disadvantages, all in one convenient (integrated) package.

Bob

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:14:37 GMT
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John Cobb wrote:

>Thanks for the tips.  Unfortunately, even though I tried to put in the
>column names using Wordpad  I still can't get Organizer to import the
>CSV file.  I'll fiddle around with it some more and see if I can find
>the right combination to make it work.
>
>By the way,  how would I use GDBLOAD to import the file?  Do you mean
>use GDBLOAD to import to the database then SmartClip to Appointments?
>Perhaps using a macro?

Sorry for the bum steer - GDBLOAD doesn't work with ADB files. For my
next suggestion, do an export to CSV from Organizer, and compare it to
the text file you're trying to import. Usually, an application's
export will be what it needs to import.

--=20
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In a message dated 7/25/99 9:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@FTEL.NET
writes:

> I wish this format modem were still being done today for the
>  faster modems.
>
I was a big fan (and erstwhile owner) of the Hayes Optima Pocket modem and
the U.S. Robotics Worldport, both 14.4K externals running on 2 AAs or wall
sockets.  For a text-based product such as the LX, these were more than
adequate, and I still think the speed is "adequate" (viz., reasonable).  What
we ought to have for this platform is something similar to the specialized
web servers that have appeared for the Palm and WinCE platforms, i.e.,
reformatting web content before rendering it to the palmtop web browser
client.  I think they have the right idea:  Make the Web come to the machine
instead of making the machine come to the Web.

-roger-

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Message-Id: <19990726050518.HRNY8676@İ12.72.155.86¨>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:05:18 +0000

While shopping in the Inland Center Mall in San Bernardino, CA, I found a
place called Black Wolf Computers that had a stack of boxes of Quattro Pro
4.0/DOS (Netware enabled...whatever that means) for $10 each.

Anyone know if this version is anything special?

Not that I need another spreadsheet (in addition to 123 and Framework
4)...just wondering.

- Longden

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Andreas,

> PE 2.2b and PIM 1.0a are now available from www.dasoft.com as pe.zip
> and pim.zip.

can we maintain the existing pe.cfg and pim.cfg files or do we have to
check through the ones being created by PE2.2b and PIM1.0a - in general
that would be cumbersome.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Hal wrote,
>OK, you just got my attention.  Built-in PHONE and APPT are fine for me
(my
>backup system usually beats the corruption problem). However, I like
>outliners a lot and I still haven't managed to come up with a todo list
that
>I like.  I use a combination of Appt's TODO and a GDB file, and
NoteTaker to
>keep track of employee assignments.  Has Andreas come up with THE
>ANSWER?
>
>I just don't have the time or inclination, though, to go through a big
>learning curve.

Hal,
I think that Andreas is real close to the Ultimate LX solution.
Unfortunately, there are
about a dozen commands that must be memorized. If a function key popped
up a menu
(similar to the F6 - Pim key) that contained those functions so we
lazier people who
don't have time to sharpen our saws (nice story Andreas) could use that
menu, I think most
of the learning curve would be overcome.

When I was learning the built-in PIMS, I would just hit menu and then
search for the solution
that I was trying to accomplish.

Andreas, will the program allow us to write a help file that becomes a
menu with those
commands and then when picked, insert the correct characters in the file
we're working on?

Thanks,

Bob

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Hal Goldstein wrote:
>> Have you played with Paul Kramer's Flexpad?  What is the difference
between
>> your approach and his?
>
>I have played around with it. This is from the docs of PIM/PE:

  So far, the discussion about PIM/PE on the list hasn't given me a
really good idea of exactly what it does or why I would want to try it,
although it _has_ made me wonder if it would be something that I would
use or need over and above what I'm already using in a PIM program. The
discussion of it's complexity in setting it up and learning how to use it
has kept it from piquing my curiosity to the point of compelling me to
actually attempt to block out some time to check out it's concept of
operation.

  Now that a reference has been made about how Paul Kramer's Flexpad and
PIM/PE compare in concept, and assuming that Flexpad is an old DOS
program that is easy to setup but just not as powerful, I would like to
take a quick look at Flexpad to see if the general concept makes sense
for me and is something that I would actually use.

  Is Flexpad actually based upon a freeform database like the PIM program
I'm currently using? I'm just curious.

  Is Flexpad indeed an old DOS program that follows the same general
concept as PIM/PE, and is it easy to set up and use?  If so, where might
I find Paul Kramer's Flexpad so I could take a quick peek at how the
general concept works and how that general concept might prove valuable
to me?

  Thanks,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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> in my hplx manual (page 25-18, german edition, titled "Tips zur
> Arbeit mit DOS-Anwendungen") there is a table of keystrokes to
> use to get the functions of a "normal" numblock. You have to use
> the "menu"-key for this.

Works! Thank you, Reinhard!

> I *think* Stefan Peichl's "numlock" on super let's you switch
> between hplx and "normal" numpad, too. No need to press "menu"
> then. Try it.

Unfortunately, no! Numlock sets the numerical keys only to these numerical
keys of the IBM number block. You cannot use the cursor key
functionions of the block. And that's what I would like to do.
(Okay - it's just for fun: I would like to use the MS Flight simulator
4.0, so I need these functions of the number key block that are
activated on a 'normal' keyboard, when the key "numlock" isn't
activated.

GTX
daniel

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Hal Goldstein wrote:
> Ah, Andreas: but what about saw sharpener? Is it appropriate for the job.
> Are the instructions good enough for the man to comprehend.  These are deep
> questions to ponder<g>.

How can you find out if you do not try? <G>

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RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL Raymond, Timothy CPT--13CPAO wrote:
> use? I'll ask the, perhaps hated question, "Can it synch w/ Outlook 98?"

You can EXPORT from PIM/PE to that it can be imported into Outlock (I
do that for all non-private appointments because I have to have my
stuff in the company-wide folders so that people can find a free time
slot) This of course means it is just one way (PIM->Outlock) You can also
import/export to vCalendar format. I believe this can be handled by
Outlock 98 so "synchronisation" might be possible, I never tried.

> Can PIM/PE show appointments, etc., even if they conflict?

Overlapping appointments are rendered specially (grey).

> Oh, and I read that you need to upgrade beyond PE 2.1, is this right?

Yes. 2.2 has the PIM stuff built-in. 2.1 has not.

> all runs under Super Software Carousel, doesn't it?}.

Yes.

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bob wrote:
> ¬C seems to be a mechanism for viewing in a certain format, not for
> inputting data.

Yes. For supporting inputting data, you might want to try macros.

> I hope that made some kind of sense. It is still probably more database
> like than you intended.

Yes, it would make it impossible to stay flexible as everything MUST be
structured with your suggestion. If your data is indeed completely
structured and all structured the same way, you'd better use a database
program instead of a PIM program. My PIM data is always partially
structured and partially unstructured. That's what an appication such
as PIM/PE is good for.

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bob wrote:
> It would be really nice if Andreas decided that he needed an outliner
> :-)

I never understood what an outliner should be good for (that I cannot
do with a simple text editor). Maybe you want to explain so that I
understand and maybe can provide support for what you need.

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Thanks Rod. It works.
For the past three days, I didn't hv error retrieving my email from both of
my pop servers. I'd tried to send myself some email with attachemnt, no
problem at all.
Thanks a lot.

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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:32:00 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

ga> Paul Yarnell wrote:
ga> I hope the following makes it clear:
ga>
ga>    Parent:                      +( Animal
ga>                                    /   \
ga>    Children:               +( Bird      +( Mammal
ga>                            +> Animal    +> Animal
ga>                              /    \            \
ga>    Grand children:   +( sparrow   +( duck      +( cow
ga>                      +> Bird      +> Bird      +> Mammal
ga>
ga> When on a +> line and pressing Ctrl-ENTER, PIM searches the parent(s)
ga> for you. When on a +( line and pressing Ctrl-ENTER, PIM searches the
ga> children (or brothers, depending on what you choose in the displayed
ga> dialog).

Much clearer, thanks. I can almost hear you speaking slower and louder
for us dim bulbs <VBG>

ga> The text that comes with the alarm is not shown, ALAPIM just beeps =
and
ga> inverts the screen several times. In order to display the text too, a
ga> lot of memory (within the TSR) would be needed. The text is shown =
when
ga> you start PIM again.

Right, but there is a listing of *pending* alarms that flashes by when
exiting PIM to PE that PIM -a reveals.

ga> Andreas

Thanks for the reply,it helped a lot. I'm off to reread the docs.

Regards,

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bob wrote:
> about a dozen commands that must be memorized. If a function key popped
> up a menu
> (similar to the F6 - Pim key) that contained those functions

I am not sure I understand what commands you mean. Is it the "+(", "+a"
etc stuff?

> Andreas, will the program allow us to write a help file that becomes a
> menu with those
> commands and then when picked, insert the correct characters in the file
> we're working on?

You can always open HELP.PIM in PE and use F7 to switch between the
file you are working on and the help. You can also add HELP.PIM to the
list displayed with F6.

Or did I misunderstand and you meant a "help menu" with entries such as

"Appointment" which will then enter "+a " for you?

If the latter: do you use QUICK/LX? If yes, you can make it pop up a
menu like that. I wonder if it is worthwhile to build something like
that into PE. After you use it for a few days, you will quickly
memorize that "+a" stands for "appointment", "+t" for "task" etc.

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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> > PE 2.2b and PIM 1.0a are now available from www.dasoft.com as pe.zip
> > and pim.zip.
>
> can we maintain the existing pe.cfg and pim.cfg

Better keep the old ones. All new entries in those files are optional
and not needed in the normal case.

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There are many excellent products *for other platforms (i.e. Pilot and WinCE)*
out there, but I have found nothing to synchronize to Notes from the HP200LX.
Puma *said* that they were upgrading there IntelliSync for Notebooks to handle
Notes, but haven't yet.  That would have allowed a two-step process - HP200LX to
Schedule+, and Schedule+ to Notes.  I would gladly accept that.


Some products are (for Pilot) EasySync and PylonPro, and (for WinCE) Cadenza,
Harmony, All-in-Sync, and IntelliSync.  My favorites are EasySync and Cadenza (I
never tried Pylon, but I hear it is more powerful).

Regarding memory for synchronization, the Pilot is more than sufficient.
Remember that 2MB(Pilot)<>2MB(WinCE)<>2MB(HP200LX).  WinCE is a tremendous hog -
surprise!


If the HPLX<->Notes situation has changed / does change, let me know... I would
switch in a second..!

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Andreas,

With this new version the repeating appointments I had imported
from the built in APPTS application ceased to show in any of the
GUI views of PIM. I set FastLoad=0 but without sucess. What can
be wrong? I'm using the same cfg file of the previous version with
which I could see the repeating items.

Regards

Antonio
---------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Queiroz e Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:44:15 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Subject:      Re: Word 5.5
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Winfried,

Actually, I have  never printed from Word 5.5 on my 200LX as I don't have a
serial printer (other than  a couple of Apple printers). I always transfer my
documents to a desktop and print from there.

But no doubt someone on the List prints from Word on a palmtop ...suggestions,
anyone?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bruce Martin              bruce_martin@manulife.com              (416) 218-5819
Creative Resources / Affinity Markets / Canadian Division / Manulife Financial




Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@microcad.es> on 07/24/99 05:55:25 pm

To:   Bruce Martin/Canadian Division/Manulife, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
cc:
Subject:  Re: Word 5.5




Bruce,

I see that you work with Word 5.5 for DOS  and have it up and running. I have
downloaded the program from the site indicated on the list the other day, made
the setup on the desktop and passed the files that you indicated onto
the flashcard.

The program works fine, but it does not print, neither by cable nor by
Infrared. Word tells me after the Print command: Printer not ready. I
have the MODE LPT1=COM1 in the Startup commands for the SC Work area
for Word.

Can you help me out ?

Thanks in advance
Winfried

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:09:11 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@ftel.net¨
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 9:51 PM
> To: HPLX Mailing List; Ed Padin
> Subject: Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
>
>
> Ed,
>
> > The only problem is that it has no
> > auto-shutoff. It goes into a power saving mode but if you
> leave it on for a
> > day or so it runs down the battery.
>
> I don't have one of those. Your comments as a user are
> valuable! I was thinking that even if you wipe out a battery
> by mistake, it is not hard to find a 9V battery.
>
> My pocket modem is a Practical Peripherals FX type which runs
> on 4 AAs in a little pod. I think the size is comprabale from
> the once or twice I saw it (once Bob Newins showed it to me,
> cannot recall who else, but saw it again....)
>
> I wish this format modem were still being done today for the
> faster modems.

Actually, I've seen 56K modems at are completely external, running from a
serial port and running from the keyboard port of a laptop. I don't know the
power requirements these things require and whether an external battery pack
is feasible.


>
>    Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
>

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:28:05 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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John,

I'll have to let others answer about Flexpad. It is another program that
tempted me, but I had never made the time to learn about it. We have written
it up several times in The HP Palmtop Paper, and users  swear by it.  I
believe it has many features and the learning curve may be similar to
Andreas' PIM.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:15:17 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem

A Meshar writes:
> My pocket modem is a Practical Peripherals FX type which runs
> on 4 AAs in a little pod. I think the size is comprabale from
> the once or twice I saw it (once Bob Newins showed it to me,
> cannot recall who else, but saw it again....)
>
> I wish this format modem were still being done today for the
> faster modems.

Recently I have started using an Australian external Modem called  "Modem 98"
which is a 33.6K modem about 2/3 the size of my palmtop. It is supposed to
run off 7.5V but the wall wart that comes with it actually supplies 9V under
load. So what the hell! I bought a 9V battery connector and a plug for the
power adaptor and tried it out. It worked for about 2 weeks every day on
batteries reading (mainly) the email from this list, connecting at 19200
baud twice a day. So now I have a battery modem for when I'm not near a wall.

I also bought a voltage regulator chip and ran it off the HP200 power adaptor
reversing the voltage. This way I only carry 1 power adaptor with me.

The bottom line is that there might be external modems which WILL work off
batteries if you need it, but they are not advertised as such because
everyone is going to either PCMCIACIAMCIA (I never remember the letters but
you know what I mean) or built in Modems.




======================
David Becher
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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:42:58 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Newins İmailto:b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 8:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Zoom pocket 14.4 modem manual
>
>
> Ed,
>
> Another note.  Radio Shack carries a 9v Lithium battery
> called Ultralife.  It is a tight fit in the Zoom so you have

Yeah, I was looking at that battery the other day for my smoke alarms. I
figure that, with a battery like that, you can throw out the alarm when the
battery runs out. I think that smoke alarms are only good for a few years
anyway. Never thought about getting it for the modem tho... the problem is
that, if you leve the modem on, it'll kill a very expensive battery.

> to be careful about not pinching the little wires off the
> circuit board, but it lasts a loonng time. $6.99.  I got 3
> months off one with
>  2 Compuserve forum/Email runs a day.  They start out at
> about 9.85v and are about gone at 8.75v.  Because lithiums
> operate in a higher voltage range sometimes when they get low
> you cannot complete an online run without getting kicked off.
>  This happens
>  sometimes before the LB (low battery) comes on.  If this
> happens it's time to replace the battery.     =Bob=
>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:50:50 -0400
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Subject:      Seeking a subnet calculator that'll run on an LX.

Has anyone come across a TCP/IP subnetting calulator that'll run on the LX?
I would like one that will allow me to specify a subnet mask and get number
of host and subnets(with addresses) or vice-versa. It would also be good if
it gave the option to use zero subnets (ala Cisco).


Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:43:00 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:
> With this new version the repeating appointments I had imported
> from the built in APPTS application ceased to show in any of the
> GUI views of PIM.

I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
...

Sorry! I goofed when correcting the AM/PM problem and broke the code
for repeated items. A corrected version of PIM.ZIP is now available for
download. I hope I did not break anything else...

Andreas

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:48:07 -0400
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              manderson@SHIPLEY.COM
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Hi all:

I am looking to sell the following:

HP 620LX Handheld PC running WinCE.  Great color screen, 75MHz processor,
docking station.  Great shape.  $375.  Read about it at
http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/hp600lx/600_overview.html

Philips Nino 312 Palm-sized PC running WinCE.  Greyscale screen, sound
capability, leather case.  Excellent condition.  $200.  Read about it at
http://nino.philips.com/

I have, and am not selling, a 4MB HP200LX.

I am wide open to trading both of these for a Newton MP2k.  For this trade, I
would even consider trading the HP200LX.

Please reply by email.  I am trying to sell these in the Boston area, but will
ship if needed.

Thanks,

Mike

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:35:53 GMT
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Has anyone found a simple way to get their HPLX calendar data across to a
Rex card? It's simple enough to get the address book across, but the
calendar is defeating me.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.org.uk>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:51:13 -0400
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Bob,

> You asked about Lugano, my intention is to "retire" to there part of the
> year.

Excellent pick - but deer.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:58:10 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Ann: PIM/PE new version available

>
> Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:
> > With this new version the repeating appointments I had imported
> > from the built in APPTS application ceased to show in any of the
> > GUI views of PIM.
>
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> ...

Hmm.. Did you use cut-n-paste or were you properly contrite and typed every
sentence? ;->
I'm sure that if anyone is unhappy with the bugs you'll refund them the
money they've spent. You do enough work just creating the code. The least we
could do is to test it for you since creating it is beyond (most of) our
expertise.


>
> Sorry! I goofed when correcting the AM/PM problem and broke the code
> for repeated items. A corrected version of PIM.ZIP is now
> available for
> download. I hope I did not break anything else...
>
> Andreas
>

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:33:41 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Flexpad (Was Re: PIM/PE)
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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:04:59 -0400 (EDT)

07h09m31s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> <snip>... where might
> I find Paul Kramer's Flexpad so I could take a quick peek at how the
> general concept works and how that general concept might prove valuable
> to me?

Hi John-

The latest version of Flexpad is dated August 98.  You can find it on
SUPER.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:07:33 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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How can one tell if a phone supports the required ETSI 07.07 standard?
I am trying to read my GH388 phone but "robot phone get me phone.lst" =
only
gives me this:
-----------
ROBOT/LX 1.1b - Simple Internet Robot
Copyright 1999 by A. Garzotto. All rights reserved.

connecting to phone...
Hanging up...
=07
***ERROR***
Argument out of range
Line 11 in file phone.SCR
-----------

I know that my Ericsson DC23 pcmcia modem supports ETSI 07.07 but not
sure ebout the GH388 phone.

Anyone else who have tried the phone script?
Any success or failure to report?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:43:22 -0700
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks

Is there any place to find english instructions for this
app?

Is it intended to run with something else or stand alone?

Anyone know how to get the topcard to show with the taskbar?

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:48:27 -0700
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              Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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From:         Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: old technology (HP12C)

> I'm curious Ed. What made the 16C "a piece of junk" if the 11C
> was "the most elegant hand calculator ever made"?

User interface.  The 16C had a complicated & messy way for switching
between integer and float arithmatic (you had to switch to integer to
use the binary, octal & hex modes.) I forget the details (been about 15
years), but basicly, if you had a numeric result from doing ordinary
math calculations, and you wanted to switch to hex mode, do some more
calculations, and switch back, it was very much non-trivial.  There was
also a bunch of fooling around with word size and such.  I also
remember something about difficulty dealing with negative numbers when
in integer mode.

As I say, it was a very long time ago, and all I really remember was
that I was disgusted with the user interface at the time, and when the
calculator was stolen, I saw it mostly as an opportunity to get a
better calculator.


The emulator I wrote was basicly an 11C which also had bin/oct/hex
display modes without all the stupid mucking around that the
16C required.

        -ed falk

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:07:51 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Robot/lx, phone.scr and Ericsson GH388?
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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:59:52 +0100 (BST)

01h55m02s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:04:50 -0700 (CST), Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I am trying to read my GH388 phone but "robot phone get me phone.lst" only
> gives me this:

> connecting to phone...
> Hanging up...
>
> ***ERROR***
> Argument out of range
> Line 11 in file phone.SCR
> -----------

That's quite a good sign -- the GH388 unserstood the AT command!

Did you try

robot "phone get me phone.lst"

you need the quotes like that otherwise indeed and argument might be
out of place.

> I know that my Ericsson DC23 pcmcia modem supports ETSI 07.07 but not
> sure ebout the GH388 phone.

try robot with that modem then?

> Anyone else who have tried the phone script?
> Any success or failure to report?

I've only tried with Nokia 8810 and also the 2110i ver ii data card - success
with both.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:18:32 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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This is probably a stupid question...  Should you (or can you) defrag
the LX?

I defragged my desktop this morning, and just started wondering if that
is something that should be done to the LX.

        Steve

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:20:20 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Yes. The LX can be defraged and so can a flashcard. I use defrag and also
scandisk.
tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:20:15 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Defrag

>This is probably a stupid question...  Should you
(or can you) defrag the LX?   Sure, why not?

Some pgms rquire it.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:27:31 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:20:11 -0400 (EDT)

33m31s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> Is there any place to find english instructions for this
> app?

No English manual.  Qman has some info on his web page, though.
        http://qman.hplx.net

> Is it intended to run with something else or stand alone?

Either way.  Works very nicely with X-Finder.

> Anyone know how to get the topcard to show with the taskbar?

Install TBLX in MoreEXM with the overlay option.  MoreEXM instructions
will tell you how.  Then hit the hotkey with topcard showing.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:29:25 -0700
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They say the only stupid question is the one not asked.

1) You can defrag the LX

2) Whether you should or not is always a subject of debate.

The traditional rationale for defragging mechanical drives was to improve
performance by reducing the number of seeks over a wide range of sectors.
The LX has no such mechanical limitations with access times, so this issue is
practically nil.

The other rationale for defragging has been to keep your data consolidated in
one area as much as possible so that in the event of a crash (just ask David
Sargeant), your chances of finding and stitching together your data via a sector
scan/recover program is better.  However, even with a fully contiguous data
area, this kind of operation is not for the faint-hearted...certainly not a
turnkey, drop-down menu operation.

The last point, already raised by "pal al", is that some programs such as the
EMS drivers and Software Carousel, require a contiguous swap area that may be
hard to find if your data has been racked all over the disk over time.

On the whole, it's probably a wash.  I've a fetish about neat piles of data so I
defrag every so often.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:49:14 -0700
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On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:18:32 -0500, Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> =
wrote:

sd> This is probably a stupid question...  Should you (or can you) defrag
sd> the LX?
Hi Steve,
You _can_ defrag the LX, I have an old PC mag utility called Defragr
that does the job. PC Tools will show you a map of your drives so you
can see what condition they're in. If you use EMS you may wreck the
contigious EMS file though and have to recreate it. As to weather you
need to defrag solid state storage is subject for debate. I defrag on
occasion even though it probably doesn't do much other than make the
disk map look better.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:02:56 -0500
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Thanks Paul & List!

Paul, Since I don't use EMS I guess I'm safe to defrag occasionally. If
you have that PC Mag defrag utility handy would you mind sending it to
me?  I only have the version on my desktop, and I think that requires
windows to run.

Steve

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        On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:18:32 -0500, Steve Dowell
<sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> wrote:

        sd> This is probably a stupid question...  Should you (or can
you) defrag
        sd> the LX?
        Hi Steve,
        You _can_ defrag the LX, I have an old PC mag utility called
Defragr
        that does the job. PC Tools will show you a map of your drives
so you
        can see what condition they're in. If you use EMS you may wreck
the
        contigious EMS file though and have to recreate it. As to
weather you
        need to defrag solid state storage is subject for debate. I
defrag on
        occasion even though it probably doesn't do much other than make
the
        disk map look better.

        HTH

        Paul

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Hi all,

I am trying to use WORD on the palmtop to write and edit
reports in a group pf people who use WORD as their standard
text editor. I need to print directly from the Palmtop, as in
the circumstances I do not have a desktop at hand.  Both my
printers (HP Laserjet 6MP and Panasonic Pocket Jet) do not
work with WORD despite a series of tests with different
setups of the program, the LX and the printers (IRDA, LPT,
COM1, the Greenwich cable as a s/p converter). Both work fine
with MEMO though, but then, most of the advantages of the
common platform are lost.

Is there anybody on the list who has printed directly from
WORD on the Palmtop and can give me some clues about the
setup?

Thanks in advance
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:55:12 -0400
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ok. if i delete it from my apname.lst when i hit the hot key it states that it
can't find the application to open.

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In a message dated 7/26/1999 01:05:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> Quattro Pro
>  4.0/DOS (Netware enabled...whatever that means) for $10 each.
>
>  Anyone know if this version is anything special?

QuatroPro is an excellent spread sheet.  The commands are close enough to
Lotus to make it easy to switch back & forth.  However, the sweet spot is 5.0
for DOS.  It adds multiple page workbooks, which are very useful.

Its also very good at creating viewgraphs.

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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:48:58 -0400 (EDT)

01h52m52s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> ok. if i delete it from my apname.lst when i hit the hot key it states
> that it can't find the application to open.

Does your line in moreexm.ini look like this (except for the hotkey
code and directory)?

a:\tblx.exm,7A00,1,TBLX

You need to reboot after adding to moreexm.ini   Also if this is the
last line, you'll need a CR character at the end.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:37:31 -0400
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> "Appointment" which will then enter "+a " for you?
>
> If the latter: do you use QUICK/LX? If yes, you can make it pop up a
> menu like that.

That is a good idea.  If you include a Quick/LX file of
short-cuts, you might even sell a few copies to people who want
to streamline PIM.

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I have been playing around with the fonts in VR since reinstalling it and
have noticed that when leaving VR and returing to other apps whatever =
font I
had loaded in VR is now active in the other apps. This condition persists
until I reboot. This is actually not a problem for me but rather a =
feature
<g>. My question is, how can I convert one of the .vfn font files that =
comes
with VR into a .com file that can be loaded in my autoexec.bat file?

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:29:28 -0400
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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:19:25 -0400 (EDT)

30m27s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I have been playing around with the fonts in VR since reinstalling it =
and
> have noticed that when leaving VR and returing to other apps whatever =
font I
> had loaded in VR is now active in the other apps. This condition =
persists
> until I reboot. This is actually not a problem for me but rather a =
feature
> <g>. My question is, how can I convert one of the .vfn font files that =
comes
> with VR into a .com file that can be loaded in my autoexec.bat file?

Hey, Jeff -

How long have you been performing miracles?  8->  I've never seen
anything like this.  Could you post the steps that caused it?  Never
heard of .vfn fonts carrying over into other apps...  Do you mean they
convert to horizontal and appear in the PIMs and DOS apps?  It would be
cool to be able to use proportional fonts in other apps.  To answer
your question, I didn't think it was possible to convert .vfn to .com
loaders.  Well, PFE can convert fonts to .fcl (but I don't know how it
could work with proportional font sets).  The .fcl can be compiled with
FCL.

Later

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:33:10 +0000
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Ed,

I have left it on all night a couple of times, but it didn't kill the lithium battery.  Probably took a bite or two out of it though. (G)  =Bob=

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Bruce,

It's easy to print from the 200LX to the Pentax Pocketjet.  It has a
dual sensing serial/parallel port.  With a custom Shier serial cable it
prints very nicely using the built in Laserjet driver.  The pocketjet
understands the HP PCL3 language.    =Bob=

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:57:43 -0500
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Subject:      Re: PIM/PE

Thanks Andreas!

re:
>Overlapping appointments are rendered specially (grey).

Sounds cool.

>You can EXPORT from PIM/PE to that it can be imported
>into Outlook...

What do you export as?

>You can also import/export to vCalendar format. I
>believe this can be handled by Outlook 98....

Maybe I'll take some time away from my dull saw this weekend İ *AND* maybe
I'm not too behind on the power curve....¨.

Type atcha soon!

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:03:46 -0400
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> 2 - Has anyone who uses it w/ CheckFree (or knows about this) found a way to
> set up electronic payees with area codes outside its original parameters?  I
> was in area code 817 (TX) and most of my 817 area became 254. Each time I
> set up a payee in the 254 area I get an 'invalid area code' error ...

I had this problem with Checkfree for DOS, so I called customer support and
they told me about a later version, 3.0 Release 5, which they sent me for no
charge. Now all area codes are accepted, and it also appears Y2K compliant,
in that I can enter dates well into the future. I've been doing Checkfree on
the 200LX for 3 years now, and that alone would make the 200LX worth the
price (and worth the DS upgrade) to me.

If you are talking about area codes in Quicken, I have no experience with this.
Does Quicken interface to Checkfree? If so, I'd love to know how to use it.

Regards,
  George

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On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:29:28 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> How long have you been performing miracles?  8->  I've never seen
> anything like this.

Hmmm..... is sainthood in my future <g>?


> Could you post the steps that caused it?

From POST I used an external to start Stereo Shell and went to the VR
directory. I run VR and pick whatever font I want to fool around with =
when
reading whatever. I can then quit VR, then Stereo Shell, return to POST =
and
presto, chango I have a new font. I can then change to another SC session
and the font is still there even in another session.

> Never
> heard of .vfn fonts carrying over into other apps...  Do you mean they
> convert to horizontal and appear in the PIMs and DOS apps?

Yes.

> It would be
> cool to be able to use proportional fonts in other apps.

I just like the way it looks. The font I use in VR is SPAB0015.VFN.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:24:20 -0500
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  I'm planning a fairly long trip (USA <-> Australia).

  Does anyone know of any appointment manager that runs on the LX that can
handle appointments in more than one timezone in a rational manner?  (...
or, ideally, some way to get the built-in appointment manager to
automatically timeshift events based on the "local timezone"...?)

  Needless to say, with appointments in more than 5 timezones (and with
crossing the international dateline...) the built-in appointment manager in
the LX just isn't a sane way to handle this.  The most extreme example
being; returning to the US, the LX appointment manager (and most others too)
shows me arriving home two hours before I leave Australia...

  Any advice?

  Thanks,
       ... JLS

  PS:  If anyone knows of an appointment manager that handles this problem
pretty well, even if it doesn't run on the LX, I'd appreciate a private note
about it.  (If I can't find a pre-canned solution, I may have to
improvise...)

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:49:42 -0600
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I recently sent the following to HP:

"With the release of the new, and critically acclaimed HP49G calculator,
I am wondering: Instead of discontinueing it, why not let the HP
Calculator division continue the 200lx?  Aren't they the ones that came
up with this brilliant little PC?  Maybe they could make it sell again?
Maybe just call it a "super-calculator", isn't that what computers are
anyway?  There has to be some way to save the marvelous little 200lx!"

Sorry, folks, I just can't sit still and let it die!

Regards,
Richard

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Howdy, ya'll;

I'm in the market for a new case for my 200LX and I was wondering if
anyone had any suggestions/preferences/ceveats/etc. for me.  I had a
belt case from Palm Tree that was OK, but didn't wear very well; so, I
have been a bit disappointed in the quality.  I would like something
with either a belt clip and/or loop, room for the 200LX and a PCMCIA
card or two, as well as some business cards.  I prefer something that
looks less "sporty" and more professional/elegant.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

Regards,
Richard

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>bob wrote:
>> It would be really nice if Andreas decided that he needed an outliner

>> :-)
>
>I never understood what an outliner should be good for (that I cannot
>do with a simple text editor). Maybe you want to explain so that I
>understand and maybe can provide support for what you need.
>
>Andreas

There is nothing better than an outliner to organize a large amount of
thoughts.
(editorial)

Andreas, you are correct that it can be done in a word processor / text
editor.
The problem is that when you are thinking about all the big ideas, the
little details
get in the way. When all the details can be seen, it is hard to see the
big picture.

An outliner allows both by hiding the details while working on the big
picture, and
showing them when you want to concentrate on a specific detail or group
of details.

So, while developing a project, thought, book, speech, sermon etc, you
start with all
the Roman numerals. But when inspired to work on a specific detail, make
them appear.

¬C accomplishes this in PIM/PE as I previously described.

Bob

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>bob wrote:
>> about a dozen commands that must be memorized. If a function key
popped
>> up a menu
>> (similar to the F6 - Pim key) that contained those functions
>
>I am not sure I understand what commands you mean. Is it the "+(", "+a"

>etc stuff?

Yes.

> Andreas, will the program allow us to write a help file that becomes a

> menu with those
> commands and then when picked, insert the correct characters in the
file
> we're working on?
>
>You can always open HELP.PIM in PE and use F7 to switch between the
>file you are working on and the help. You can also add HELP.PIM to the
>list displayed with F6.
>
Yes, I know that I can edit the help file. What I don't know, is if I
can enter a
menu, pick a menu item, and have it return something to the file on
which I am working.

>Or did I misunderstand and you meant a "help menu" with entries such as

>
>"Appointment" which will then enter "+a " for you?
>

Yes

>If the latter: do you use QUICK/LX? If yes, you can make it pop up a
>menu like that. I wonder if it is worthwhile to build something like
>that into PE. After you use it for a few days, you will quickly
>memorize that "+a" stands for "appointment", "+t" for "task" etc.
>
>Andreas

I don't use QUICK/LX. I guess I need to check it out. (more saw
sharpening!)

Bob

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> This is probably a stupid question...  Should you (or can you) defrag
> the LX?
>
> I defragged my desktop this morning, and just started wondering if that
> is something that should be done to the LX.

Debates rage.  Contiguous files are easier to UNdelete.  No one
definitively tests whether it runs faster since nothing is spinning for
read/write stuff.

BUT be warned, I used a defragger I had used on the desktop (dos
program) many times and I'm not sure why or what, but it reduced all of
my files over 8k in size to 8k - made a real mess of things.  Don't
recall which one I used either.

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Steffen Demuth wrote:
> PIM is great. As far as I have discovered the program, I'm missing only
> one feature: speed.

The only place where I have a problem with speed is when launching
PIM.EXE. The latest version solves part of it: When there were no
changes, it loads fast. I am working on further improvements. But
Flexpad (which works only on one file and that file must fit  into
memory) will always be faster due to its limitations.

> that it takes hours, but Flexpad is simply faster, also for the "Only"
> function which I use a lot.

What do you use it for? I noticed that I almost never use it, so I am
pretty sure there are other ways to do what you do with it.

Thanks for your feedback!

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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> connecting to phone...
> Hanging up...

Does not seem as if the connection to the phone is made. Are you sure
you have set up WWW/LX so that it uses the correct port to speak to the
phone?

> Argument out of range
> Line 11 in file phone.SCR

Make sure you call it as described in the docs. The PHONE script needs
arguments, e.g. "phone get sm my_list.txt".

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RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL Raymond, Timothy CPT--13CPAO wrote:
> >You can EXPORT from PIM/PE to that it can be imported
> >into Outlook...
>
> What do you export as?

CSV

Andreas

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Steve Carder wrote:
> That is a good idea.  If you include a Quick/LX file of
> short-cuts, you might even sell a few copies to people who want
> to streamline PIM.

You could do something like

xx=Appointment=+a
xx=Task=+t
xx=Category=+c
...

That way pressing "xx" shows a menu you can select an item from an
press the right arrow to insert it. But I really wonder if this is
useful for more than a day or two.

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On 25-Jul-99, David Sargeant wrote:
>> Is there a small DOS program which will allow me to set the screen
>> mode as if I had pressed {ON+*}?  I'm running a startup .bat for Rogue
>> and would like to be able to set the screen the way that I always do
>> when I run it.
>
> I'm pretty sure LXSTAT (on SUPER) has this feature.

Thanks, David (again, I'm sure).

LxSTAT is exactly what I was looking for.  Now I can set up a batch file,
ROGUE.BAT to read:

    @echo off
    lxstat d m 0 d c 25
    if exist rogue.sav set sav=-r
    rogue %sav%

to run from SMMx (where I keep a "Games" folder).  This sets the screen
appropriately as if I had pressed {on}+{*}, which makes the game much more
visible, and adjusts the contrast a little.  If I have a saved game in
Rogue it will start from my saved position, otherwise it will start a new
game.  This is my first DOS batch script, so could someone tell me if my
syntax is correct?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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> As someone once said (quoting from memory):  "Any technology
> sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic" :-)
>
> I believe that Mack is such a "technology" :-)

I wholeheartedly agree! :-)

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> Has anyone found a simple way to get their HPLX calendar data across to a
> Rex card? It's simple enough to get the address book across, but the
> calendar is defeating me.

How did you transfer the phonebook? Directly from the palmtop?

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Ed,

> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!
> > ...
>
> Hmm.. Did you use cut-n-paste or were you properly contrite and typed every
> sentence? ;->

You can tell he wrote each one separately. Look at the
variations, the serifs, the slight bias --- oops! Not so-
Looks like my screen is just dirty! :-)

> I'm sure that if anyone is unhappy with the bugs you'll refund them the
> money they've spent. You do enough work just creating the code. The least we
> could do is to test it for you since creating it is beyond (most of) our
> expertise.

Problem is that it makes him look too-too much like
MicroShaft, his favorite software company. :-(

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David,

> 1) leave palmtop at home in Australia, and use internet cafee's.  What
> are typical costs here?  In europe, I used some which I just had to buy
> a drink, and got to use for 45 minutes.  I assume they would be pretty
> available.

Not as available as in Europe. In more rural areas of US you
can almost never find them.

> 2) Take palmtop. How hard would it be to find phones to connect the
> palmtop to in public places?

There are approximately 10 zillion public phones! You can find
them almost anywhere. Carry an accoustic coupler and you may
be in business. Also, use credit cards for calling - coould be
more expensive but will help bypass some nasty expensive
private phone operators.

> I will not be in Hotels most of the trip.
> Also, is there any free internet access accounts in the USA that I can
> use in the USA like the ones in the UK? Otherwise I would have to sign
> up for an international account like MSN.

Not free, but you can get a short term Compuserve account at
$9.95 per month. That gives you 5 hours connect time to their
network (proprietary or ppp Gateway). Unlimited is $24.95 per
month - you can figure the breakeven point. You never have to
use the compuserve email, but it'll give you hundreds of local
phone numbers (which will be free of time charges, and only
cost a bit on the phone to access 25 to 35 cents.

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Rick,

> Again, others should comment as I have very little experience with either
> NiMHs *or* ABC/LX at this point.  But I believe there has also been some
> discussion about setting the "trip" threshold lower, at least partially in
> connection with the statements that NiMHs should be discharged down to
> about 1V before being recharged.  As for me, I run on the "ragged edge"
> since I'm never far from an electrical outlet; at present I start charging
> just above the "low main battery" warning (not that I would recommend that
> to anyone!)

Since you are near outlets, this strategy is reasonable.

> What I'm doing is jotting down (in Notetaker) the total battery time each
> time the batteries hit the "start charge" point, as well as the peak
> voltage they reach.  I am hopeful this will clue me in to any aging or

The peak voltage during charge is basically meaningless. All
it means is how much you overloaded the battery and how much
it struggled against the overload by raising the voltage. You
will notice that from peak to the normal operating voltage
range of the battery, it takes minutes. I.e. the battery
drops in voltage very rapidly to reach the operating range. At
peak ranges you will spend maybe 10 minutes - hardly anything
significant in the service time of a battery.

I have a set that would never rise above 2.81V, others went
happily over 3.05V. In either case they spend minutes in these
peaks and dropped down to business levels where they normally
operate.

In short - kiss off the peak stuff.

If anything, the more you push the battery into peak ranges,
the more wear and tear it experiences, the faster it ages. It
may be better to lose an hour of service time per charge
cycle that stops at a lower voltage, and get a longer lasting
battery. IOW: Stop charging at say 2.85V instead of 2.95V.
Sure, it will give you 12.5 hours service instead of 13.5
hours, but your battery will take 700 charge cycles instead of
die at 300 cycles.

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David,

Thanks for the tips on modems. Interesting conclusion you
wrote to check and see if the modem can be used in a battery
application. I have a USR 56KBps with a wall wart. It may well
run off battery too -I'll check later today.

> everyone is going to either PCMCIACIAMCIA (I never remember the letters but
> you know what I mean) or built in Modems.

Easy: PCMCIA = People Cannot Memorize Computer Industry
Acronyms :-¨ (not my invention...)

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I bought recently an used HP Omnigo 700LX. I'm surprised over the many
possibilities, which this Palmtop offers. Now I'm looking at
a possibility  exchanging my appointments with my Desktop PC.
In the program "pim"  there is a tool to convert  the *. adb - file
into the vcs- format . Is there also a program, which a
vcs- file converts back into an adb- file? If it is not possible,
how can I exchange  appointments, ...  e.g. with Staroffice 5.1
( writes and reads vcs-  format) ?
 Thanks for the tips.

Bernd Pehle
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Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> In the dim, dark recesses of my mind, I remember a program ...
> making DOS think that the drive has not been changed ...
> "fixeda.com" ... Maybe someone from Thaddeus can put it up on
> SUPER

I am impressed!  I don't remember such a program.  Thanks for
the information, Rod.  I believe that if this program works as
advertised that this will fix the problem.  Lets hope the
person sees your message and can get the program and try it.


Stan

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> Thanks Paul & List!
>
> Paul, Since I don't use EMS I guess I'm safe to defrag occasionally. If
> you have that PC Mag defrag utility handy would you mind sending it to
> me?  I only have the version on my desktop, and I think that requires
> windows to run.

There is also a shareware defrager available called dog. It can be
found in the simtel MS-DOS-Archiv.

Reinhard


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> Should you (or can you) defrag the LX?

I have only defragmented my palmtop when I needed to create a
Software Carosel swapfile or an EMS swapfile.  So, it has been
over a year since I have defragmented my 32Meg machine.  Why
risk messing up my swap files just to make the disk-map in the
defrag program look pretty?

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On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> I recently sent the following to HP:
>
> "With the release of the new, and critically acclaimed HP49G calculator,
> I am wondering: Instead of discontinueing it, why not let the HP
> Calculator division continue the 200lx?  Aren't they the ones that came
> up with this brilliant little PC?  Maybe they could make it sell again?
> Maybe just call it a "super-calculator", isn't that what
computers are
> anyway?  There has to be some way to save the marvelous little 200lx!"

Do you really want a blue 200LX with rubber keys? ;-)


Cheers,

Laust

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> >This is probably a stupid question...  Should you
> (or can you) defrag the LX?   Sure, why not?
>
> Some pgms rquire it.

Really? Which?

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Paul,

> If you use EMS you may wreck the contigious EMS file though and
> have to recreate it.

The opposite! Defragging takes files which are spread on
clusters all over the drive and puts thenm in nicely organized
contiguous clusters. So EMS will remain unfragmented, but may
move to another spot on the drive, but that should not hurt
its usage (unless the EMS driver does some direct writing
without consulting the FAT.)

> As to weather you need to defrag solid state storage is
> subject for debate. I defrag on occasion even though it
> probably doesn't do much other than make the disk map look
> better.

It is almost not necessary for practical purposes, but if it
makes people feel good to have a nicely organized drive, well,
... :)

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:26:48 -0700
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Longden,

> They say the only stupid question is the one not asked.

Agree. I also like to say that there are no stupid questions,
something that cannot be said for some answers! :-) (Not
implying anything about your answer! :¨  )

> 1) You can defrag the LX

Agree.

> 2) Whether you should or not is always a subject of debate.
>
> The traditional rationale for defragging mechanical drives was to improve
> performance by reducing the number of seeks over a wide range of sectors.
> The LX has no such mechanical limitations with access times, so this issue is
> practically nil.

Agree totally.

> The other rationale for defragging has been to keep your data consolidated in
> one area as much as possible so that in the event of a crash (just ask David
> Sargeant), your chances of finding and stitching together your data via a sector
> scan/recover program is better.  However, even with a fully contiguous data
> area, this kind of operation is not for the faint-hearted...certainly not a
> turnkey, drop-down menu operation.

Agree. If you already know how to stich, it is just as
hard/easy to stich a fragmented file as it is a consolidated
file.

> The last point, already raised by "pal al", is that some
> programs such as the EMS drivers and Software Carousel,
> require a contiguous swap area that may be  hard to find
> if your data has been racked all over the disk over time.

The here is no need to defrag a drive for that. Just
reorganizing a disk will do. If there is already a contiguous
large enough area, then no defragging is needed.

> On the whole, it's probably a wash.  I've a fetish about
> neat piles of data so I defrag every so often.

ROFL... The best usage for defragging on the PCMCIA or C drive
yet: Satisfy an urge for orderliness...

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Steve

> Paul, Since I don't use EMS I guess I'm safe to defrag occasionally. If
> you have that PC Mag defrag utility handy would you mind sending it to
> me?  I only have the version on my desktop, and I think that requires
> windows to run.

Yes, you can always defrag, even if you use EMS! I believe
Paul was in error when he asserted that defragging a drive
with a contiguous EMS file will break the EMS file. It won't.

The desktop defrag question is different. There, you have
rotating drives, and it takes some specific, if variable,
amount of time to get to a cluster on the disk. If that access
time can be optimized it will make disk access faster. One of
the ways to optimize is to move clusters of a file next to
each other, so the arm can remain more or less where it is to
read more clusters, before it has to move to another spot
(that takes time and during that re-positioning there is no
data transfer!)

On a PCMCIA or the C: drive none of these considerations
apply. It takes the same amount of time to (electronically)
address any one cluster, and there is no rotation time to
contend with, and no re-positioning of the reading arm - just
a fixed time to electronically reach a cluster. It takes the
same amount of time to reach all the clusters of a file that
is tightly organized vs. one that is spread all over.

Hence, defragging on the palmtop is meaningless (C: drive and
PCMCIA).

On occasions, when you have to define a large file such as EMM
or the SC Resource Pool, you need to release enough contiguous
space. You can also simply move ALL the files out of the
drive, allocate your file (it has no competition in allocating
clusters - all are available!), and move the files back. I
have been successful in just moving enough files until the
number of contiguous clusters were sufficient for the EMM I
needed to define.

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Fred,

> Debates rage.  Contiguous files are easier to UNdelete.  No one
> definitively tests whether it runs faster since nothing is spinning for
> read/write stuff.

I am not sure this is correct. The big deal about undelete is
if all the cluster used previously in the file are still
unused. If you have a large contiguous file and delete it, it
releases a large "pool" of free clusters. If a new file can be
allocated completely and contiguously it will take a
contiguous area. If not, then it will take the largest
contiguous, then fragment. So there are good chances that
files will end up allocated in a "pool" of clusters that was
once a large file.

> BUT be warned, I used a defragger I had used on the desktop (dos
> program) many times and I'm not sure why or what, but it reduced all of
> my files over 8k in size to 8k - made a real mess of things.  Don't
> recall which one I used either.

This is probably because the defragger was not sure how to
handle PCMCIA cards?

If you have a PCMCIA card, the easiest way to defrag is to
move ALL the files out of the card into a desktop drive (there
is your backup too!) then move them back. It is usually mych
faster then defragging, and gives you a backup copy.

You can either move or copy, then delete all files from the
PCMCIA, then move everything back.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:27:09 -0700
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>   I'm planning a fairly long trip (USA <-> Australia).
>
>   Does anyone know of any appointment manager that runs on the LX that can
> handle appointments in more than one timezone in a rational manner?  (...
> or, ideally, some way to get the built-in appointment manager to
> automatically timeshift events based on the "local timezone"...?)

If you have a HP 200LX you have what you need built into the
ROM! In Apptbook just enter the appointment as if it was in
local time. I enter in the USA PST timezone and appt for
February 23, 2000 11am exactly like that. No timeshifts no
recalculations. Just enter the appt. Now when I go to
Switzerland next February (MET timezone) I simply tell Worldtime to make
Zurich time my default time, and guess what? The appt for Feb
23 is still at 11am!

Try it on the WinCE and it will shift your time from 11am to
8pm or so.

If you want to know what time it will be at my origin when it
is Feb 23 11am in Switzerlan, use the Worldtime, press
Convert, show the time in MET and then press Enter and look in
Los Angeles for example to see the time in LA when it is Feb
23 11am in Zurich.

>   Needless to say, with appointments in more than 5 timezones (and with
> crossing the international dateline...) the built-in appointment manager in
> the LX just isn't a sane way to handle this.  The most extreme example
> being; returning to the US, the LX appointment manager (and most others too)
> shows me arriving home two hours before I leave Australia...

But it is true! You really DO return two hours earlier - when
viewed locally. To shift things will make you absolutely
crazy. Let me give you a real-world example:

David Shier used some time ago his WinCE machine when on a
business trip from California to Florida. He entered his
return flight time as 4pm while he was still in LA. Then he
arrived in Florida, he told the WincE to reset the time to
local time. And he blissfully went about doing his work. He
also noticed that on his last day he had plenty of time! :-(
He even scheduled a short meeting for 4pm because his calendar
showed the return flight is at 7pm. WRONG!!! He missed his
flight.

Let me give you another example: Imagine yourself in London,
not your home town, and you set up an appointment by phone
with Jack from Zurich. You decide to do it the _other_ way -
the WinCE way! So you calculate that 8am (the time of the
breakfast meeting with Jack) plus 3 hours is 11am, so you
enter it on the designated day.

Two days later, you call Bill, who works with Jack, and you
two decide to meet. He asks you when you have time on the day
you will be in Zurich. You open your book and look and it is
so easy to tell Bob you can meet him for breakfast at 8am,
since the next meeting you have is not until 11am - with Jack.

You can make your life enven more complicated and calculate
the differences for 5 timezones, or forget it, and just use
the time in the timezone where you will actually will be i.e.
the local time!

You asked for rational. I hope I gave it...

   Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:26:43 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Really? Which?

Software Carousel.

Jeff

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I've found the easiest way to use 200lx and the rex is to have Schedule + as
the bridge between the two on my pc. I synch the 200lx with schedule + using
puma's intellisynch for 200lx (calendar/address book/to dos), and then synch
schedule + with the rex using true synch plus. It works.

My only complaint is I don't have a way to synch the notetaker from 200lx
over.

rgds
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> > Has anyone found a simple way to get their HPLX calendar data across to
a
> > Rex card? It's simple enough to get the address book across, but the
> > calendar is defeating me.
>
> How did you transfer the phonebook? Directly from the palmtop?
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Winfried,

I have a Greenwich S/P converter and remember printing for Lotus 123 to a HP Laserjet II a few yrs ago from my 100LX.  I vaguely remember that there was something extra I had to do from the Lotus menus.  Maybe it was select a range or something like tha
t, I just don't remember.  But it should work. What printer are you using?      =Bob=

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Winfried,

;Both my printers (HP Laserjet 6MP and Panasonic Pocket Jet) do not
work with WORD.   Both work fine with MEMO though.+

Humm....  I have a friend that I think uses WORD to print to the portable HP Deskjet.  Did you say it was version 5.5?

In the meantime check out Eric Meyer's VDE.  It works like the old Wordstar and can convert files to Wordperfect and WORD formats.  It is an assembly language gem.       =Bob=

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Hi,

In my attempts to get CPACK working properly under XT-CE (it mostly
works now), I've found that the CPACK applications utilise an
undocumented (at least in my documents) INT5F function 15h (21). Does
anybody know what this function is supposed to do? It's not mentioned
anywhere in the PAL library documentation. It appears as if the
applications use it to aquire bitmap backgrounds for some buttons (eg.
dialog buttons), as well as to implement a flashing cursor. I say
'appears' because these things are missing and as far as I can see the
CPACK software doesn't try to implement them with any of the documented
INT5F functions. It also doesn't look as if any software designed to
run on the actual HP95/100/200LX calls it either.

Thanks in advance

Ian Dean
http://www.xt-ce.com

BTW. I've just purchased a HP680LX and I'm very impressed. I've got a
few of these CE devices and it's the first one I'd use for anything
other than software development. Pity you can't read it's screen
outdoors
though...

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> The opposite! Defragging takes files which are spread on
> clusters all over the drive and puts thenm in nicely organized
> contiguous clusters. So EMS will remain unfragmented, but may
> move to another spot on the drive, but that should not hurt
> its usage (unless the EMS driver does some direct writing
> without consulting the FAT.)

If I remember correctly (I'm too lazy to look at the source code) That is
EXACTLY how it works. The ems driver not only has to be contiguous but also
has to be on a 16K page boundary as far as the memory map of the palmtop is
concerned.

Avi, you are giving bad advice here. The principle should be PLAY IT SAFE.
If you are going to defrag, remove the emm200.dat file and recreate it.
(IMHO)

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> The opposite! Defragging takes files which are spread on
> clusters all over the drive and puts thenm in nicely organized
> contiguous clusters. So EMS will remain unfragmented, but may
> move to another spot on the drive, but that should not hurt
> its usage (unless the EMS driver does some direct writing
> without consulting the FAT.)

My TREMM driver detects the fact that the file has moved and will not load
if that is the case since it has to be in an exact position based on a 16k
boundary to work.

Cheers,
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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:46:07 +0100, I Dean <hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK> =
wrote:

> undocumented (at least in my documents) INT5F function 15h (21). Does
> anybody know what this function is supposed to do? It's not mentioned

Doesn't it have something to do with drawing circles or round shapes?

Jeff

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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:17:15 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

        I'm looking for a battery(C3059A) for my HP DeskJet 340. I seem
        to be able to get one from "HP Shopping Village" (HP's OnLine
        store) for $50 + $5 shipping. I'm having no luck finding one
        elsewhere. Anyone know if/where I can get a better price?

        TIA,

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We should also add that MANY defraggers will not move files such as TREMM.SWP
(or other such swap files) that are marked with hidden/system/readonly
attributes.

Of course, one shouldn't stake their lives (or data) on this fact without
checking out the details of their particular defragger... but that used to be
the convention, primarily because those kinds of attributes were used to denote
files special to copy protection schemes and other 'immoveable' files.

Also, on the argument for contiguous vs non-contiguous, it should be mentioned
that there may be performance gains(however slight), even on RAM disk if the
clusters reads are buffered.  I think we've covered this before, but if DOS
looks in its buffer area first before proceeding to the FAT, a non-contiguous
sector read may result in an unnecessary check...... of course this is REALLY
nit-picky.

I think the big picture is that you don't really need to do defrag ... but if
you do, you're somewhat like the ones who like to buff their bumpers also <g>
(oops.... forgot they're not chrome anymore are they?)

- Longden





Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> on 07/27/99 07:04:30 AM

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> The opposite! Defragging takes files which are spread on
> clusters all over the drive and puts thenm in nicely organized
> contiguous clusters. So EMS will remain unfragmented, but may
> move to another spot on the drive, but that should not hurt
> its usage (unless the EMS driver does some direct writing
> without consulting the FAT.)

My TREMM driver detects the fact that the file has moved and will not load
if that is the case since it has to be in an exact position based on a 16k
boundary to work.

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Hi Al.

Look at www.shopper.com and enter C3059A as the search string.

It turns up the item at the infamous buy.com for $29.22 (and in stock).  Maybe
your luck will hold with those guys...

- Longden





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Hi All:

        I'm looking for a battery(C3059A) for my HP DeskJet 340. I seem
        to be able to get one from "HP Shopping Village" (HP's OnLine
        store) for $50 + $5 shipping. I'm having no luck finding one
        elsewhere. Anyone know if/where I can get a better price?

        TIA,

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> It's easy to print from the 200LX to the Pentax Pocketjet.  It has a
> dual sensing serial/parallel port.  With a custom Shier serial cable it

Winfried,

Bob's mention of using a custom cable reminds me...

Did you remember that to print using the LX's null-modem serial cable you must
add a null-modem adaptor? It's a simple step, but one that's easily
overlooked...

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On 27 Jul 1999 05:25:24 -0700, sponsor@FTEL.NET (A Meshar) wrote:

> ROFL... The best usage for defragging on the PCMCIA or C drive
> yet: Satisfy an urge for orderliness...
>

Maybe I need some professional help..I have the clusters nice defragged
on all my computers, but my apartment looks like downtown Bagdad back
in the Desert storm days..

Maybe I should get me a professional defragger which can clean up my
apartment?

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Agree. If you already know how to stich, it is just as hard/easy to
> stich a fragmented file as it is a consolidated file.

Believe me, if the undelete information (i.e., the entries in the FAT) for
a particular file have been trashed, it's MUCH easier to undelete that
file if it's contiguous.

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<<"With the release of the new, and critically acclaimed HP49G calculator,
I am wondering: Instead of discontinueing it, why not let the HP
Calculator division continue the 200lx?  Aren't they the ones that came
up with this brilliant little PC?  Maybe they could make it sell again?>>

Unfortunately, the division and the team that created calculators and the HP
200LX have long ago been dismantled.  The big product in Corvallis is
DeskJet cartridges!

The calculator division is now based in Australia.

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> > I am trying to read my GH388 phone but "robot phone get me phone.lst" =
only
> > gives me this:
>
> > connecting to phone...
> > Hanging up...
> >
> > ***ERROR***
> > Argument out of range
> > Line 11 in file phone.SCR
> > -----------
>
> That's quite a good sign -- the GH388 unserstood the AT command!
>
> Did you try
>
> robot "phone get me phone.lst"

That gives me:
-------------
...
connecting to phone...
Hanging up...
GOT >AT+CSCS=3D"PCCP437"
ERROR
<
=07
***ERROR***
Time out.
Line 15 in file phone.SCR
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Bob,
sorry to continue to bother you with this printing problem.

> Humm....  I have a friend that I think uses WORD to print to the
portable HP Deskjet.  Did you say it was version 5.5?

Yes, Word 5.5. Could you find out what your friend's setup is ? If WORD
for DOS on the Palmtop prints to the Deskjet, it should also print to
other printers as the HP Laserjet 6MP or the PENTAX (not Panasonic,
sorry) Pocket Jet.

You told Bruce on the list to-day that the 200LX prints easily to the =
Pocket
Jet. This is certainly true for Memo under SysMgr and even for PE in
one of the DOS Work Areas in SC. PE works straight without any
configuring.

However, with WORD there are problems. Funnily enough, yesterday I
have made WORD print to the Pocket Jet once, but was unable to
reproduce it. (With the Greenwich s/p cable to the HP 6MP it never
worked.)

As for the Pocket Jet I have found out so much:
 When having
- setup WORD on the Desktop to print to LPT1,
- executed MODE LPT1=3DCOM1 before calling WORD.EXE
- set the Printer Setup in WORD (once transferred to the Palmtop) to any
  printer driver
- given the PRINT Command in WORD
then the Program beeps "The Printer is not ready"

When NOT rerouting LPT1 to COM1 in the same above conditions the
program remains quiet some time after the PRINT command and seems to
send information somewhere, the printer does not react at all.

The trouble is that I do not know which of both situations is nearer to
the solution.

All this is why I am interested to hear from somebody else who managed to
get it going.

> In the meantime check out Eric Meyer's VDE.  It works like the old =
Wordstar
> and can convert files to Wordperfect and WORD formats.

For my work setup that would be a second best solution. As on
the Desktop I work mostly with WoRD, I would not like to turn back to
the Wordstar Keys on the Palmtop and get even more confused than now
with MEMO, PE and WORD.

Thanks for investing your time in my sorrows !

Best regards
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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:36:59 -0500 (EST)

Hey Longden:

        I knew I was missing sombody ;-) I tried CDW, HP,
        MicroWarehouse...Thanks!

        Good tip on www.shopper.com, I'll have to remember that!

04h07m05s ago ...
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Hi Al.
>
> Look at www.shopper.com and enter C3059A as the search string.
>
> It turns up the item at the infamous buy.com for $29.22 (and in stock). =
 Maybe
> your luck will hold with those guys...
>
> - Longden
>
> Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu> on 07/27/99 07:21:33 AM
>
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> Subject:  OT:(sort of) Battery for DeskJet 340
>
> Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:17:15 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>         I'm looking for a battery(C3059A) for my HP DeskJet 340. I seem
>         to be able to get one from "HP Shopping Village" (HP's OnLine
>         store) for $50 + $5 shipping. I'm having no luck finding one
>         elsewhere. Anyone know if/where I can get a better price?
>
>         TIA,
>
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Bruce,

thanks for the suggestion. I do not print to the Pocket Jet with a
normal HP null-modem serial cable, but with the Shier customs cable
with the lines inverted already. Anyway, the Pocket Jet works well with
Systems Manager and PE from Dos, so it should not be the cable.

I wrote to Bob Newins to-day the following message. Maybe you have got
still another idea ? (Sorry to bother you with this affair).

Regards
Winfried

Date: Tue, 1 Jan 1980 01:22:57 +0000
From: Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@microcad.es>=09
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Subject: Re: Printing from WORD on the Palmtop=09

Bob, sorry to continue to bother you with this printing problem.

> Humm....  I have a friend that I think uses WORD to print to the
portable HP Deskjet.  Did you say it was version 5.5?

Yes, Word 5.5. Could you find out what your friend's setup is ? If WORD =
for DOS
on the Palmtop prints to the Deskjet, it should also print to other =
printers as
the HP Laserjet 6MP or the PENTAX (not Panasonic, sorry) Pocket Jet.

You told Bruce on the list to-day that the 200LX prints easily to the =
Pocket
Jet. This is certainly true for Memo under SysMgr and even for PE in one =
of the
DOS Work Areas in SC. PE works straight without any configuring.

However, with WORD there are problems. Funnily enough, yesterday I have =
made
WORD print to the Pocket Jet once, but was unable to reproduce it. (With =
the
Greenwich s/p cable to the HP 6MP it never worked.)

As for the Pocket Jet I have found out so much:
 When having
- setup WORD on the Desktop to print to LPT1,
- executed MODE LPT1=3DCOM1 before calling WORD.EXE
- set the Printer Setup in WORD (once transferred to the Palmtop) to any
  printer driver
- given the PRINT Command in WORD
then the Program beeps "The Printer is not ready"

When NOT rerouting LPT1 to COM1 in the same above conditions the program
remains quiet some time after the PRINT command and seems to send informat=
ion
somewhere, the printer does not react at all.

The trouble is that I do not know which of both situations is nearer to =
the
solution.

All this is why I am interested to hear from somebody else who managed to =
get
it going.

> In the meantime check out Eric Meyer's VDE.  It works like the old =
Wordstar
> and can convert files to Wordperfect and WORD formats.

For my work setup that would be a second best solution. As on the Desktop =
I
work mostly with WoRD, I would not like to turn back to the Wordstar Keys =
on
the Palmtop and get even more confused than now with MEMO, PE and WORD.

Thanks for investing your time in my sorrows !

Best regards Winfried

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Hey Martin.

I sympathize with the cleaning.  Almost makes me wish this were like "The
Matrix" and I can just run a defrag on my lawn.

- Longden





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Maybe I need some professional help..I have the clusters nice defragged
on all my computers, but my apartment looks like downtown Bagdad back
in the Desert storm days..

Maybe I should get me a professional defragger which can clean up my
apartment?

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Wisdom from the lips (or fingers) of the walking wounded...

- Longden





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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Agree. If you already know how to stich, it is just as hard/easy to
> stich a fragmented file as it is a consolidated file.

Believe me, if the undelete information (i.e., the entries in the FAT) for
a particular file have been trashed, it's MUCH easier to undelete that
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> From: Mack Baggette İmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
... snip ...
> My TREMM driver detects the fact that the file has moved and
> will not load if that is the case since it has to be in an
> exact position based on a 16k boundary to work.

  Mack, what happens if the user defrags the drive with your EMS driver
already loaded and doesn't reboot...?

       ... JLS

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Someone might have already asked this many times, but...

I read the document which Pete Jordan wrote about loading LLRA under
Win95.  I tried it successfully under Win95.  Recently I switched to
Win98 but all the 4 methods did not work.  Has anyone successfully done
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Does anyone know how to create a new user on MINIX?

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> From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
... snip ...
> Agree. If you already know how to stich, it is just as
> hard/easy to stich a fragmented file as it is a consolidated
> file.

  Sorry Avi, but this is just plain WRONG!  As someone who's spent weeks
"stitching" drives back together after a disaster, I can tell you without a
doubt, that restoring a large file that's all in one block is infinitely
easier than having to figure out which fragmented clusters (out of many
thousand clusters)belong to which file (and in what order)....

  BTW, for what it's worth...  The easiest and fastest way to defrag the C:
drive is to MOVE all the files to temporary folder on a flash card and then
copy them back.  (If you have an EMS file or hidden/system files (like
C:\_DAT\ALARM.Q), just leave them on the drive.  The small amount of
fragmentation they may cause when copying the files back into place is
probably less than you'll normally cause by adding a large note to a
phonebook file...)

  The same is true of a flash card (use a laptop to move them off the flash
card to a temporary folder on the laptop and then copy them back...).

         ... JLS

 --
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The 'adduser'command. Type 'man adduser' to find out how to use it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guenther Helmuth E. İmailto:h_e_guenther@CSI.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:23 PM
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> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ MINIX
>
>
> Does anyone know how to create a new user on MINIX?
>
> Regards
>
> Helmuth
>
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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:04:12 -0400 (EDT)

12h10m19s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> LxSTAT is exactly what I was looking for.  Now I can set up a batch =
file,
> ROGUE.BAT to read:
>
>     @echo off
>     lxstat d m 0 d c 25
>     if exist rogue.sav set sav=3D-r
>     rogue %sav%
>
> to run from SMMx (where I keep a "Games" folder).

Thanks!  Got a similar batch running now.  Tried this in my Games
folder in XF, and it seemed not to work.  For some reason if I launch
from a .xff symbolic link, it doesn't work - seems to ignore everything
except rogue.exe...  Very strange.  Tried it from a DOS prompt, and it
was fine 8-)   After changing the XF launch command file to a .xfe
things work as expected.

> This sets the screen
> appropriately as if I had pressed {on}+{*}, which makes the game much =
more
> visible, and adjusts the contrast a little.  If I have a saved game in
> Rogue it will start from my saved position, otherwise it will start a =
new
> game.  This is my first DOS batch script, so could someone tell me if =
my
> syntax is correct?

Well, my simple-minded view is that if the computer accepts your
syntax, and does what you want, then the syntax is OK.  <g>

Anyway -- XF users -- heres the batch I wound up with:

@echo off
a:
cd \games
lxstat d m 0
If exist rogue.sav goto replay
rogue
goto endd
:replay
rogue -r
:endd

Later

-Peniel
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>   Mack, what happens if the user defrags the drive with your EMS driver
> already loaded and doesn't reboot...?

Most likely the defrag program won't move the file since it is marked as
system, read only, and hidden.  If it does move it then you can mess up your
C: drive in that situation.

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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> GOT >AT+CSCS="PCCP437"
> ERROR

Seems that your phone does not support the PC code page 437 (character
set) You might want to try replacing "PCCP437" in the script by
"8859-1". And if that does not work either, maybe delete the line wich
sends that command and also the line after it, which waits for the
reply.

Anyway, by doing those changes, and non-ASCII characters will not
translate correctly.

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h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> Does anyone know how to create a new user on MINIX?

Maybe by talking to the user trying to convince him or her that MINIX
is useful? <G>

If you mean a user *account* <G>, you might want to try "mkuser" or
"adduser" as these are the commands on most UNIXes I know. If they
don't exist, you might want to add the home directory manually and add
a line to the passwd file.

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So, I'm curious: what version of Rogue are people running on their 200LX?
I was running the one on SUPER (in fact, I think I sent that 1.1 version
to Mitch to replace the buggy 1.0 version that was on there) but I
recently found Epyx Rogue which has a lot of enhancements.

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Ed,

> The 'adduser'command. Type 'man adduser' to find out how to use it.

Thank you!

Regards

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> thanks for the suggestion. I do not print to the Pocket Jet with a
> normal HP null-modem serial cable, but with the Shier customs cable
> with the lines inverted already. Anyway, the Pocket Jet works well with
> Systems Manager and PE from Dos, so it should not be the cable.

Oh well, it was worth a try...

>  When having
> - setup WORD on the Desktop to print to LPT1,
> - executed MODE LPT1=COM1 before calling WORD.EXE
> - set the Printer Setup in WORD (once transferred to the Palmtop) to any
>   printer driver
> - given the PRINT Command in WORD
> then the Program beeps "The Printer is not ready"

Two thoughts here: First, I believe you are using Software Carousel. If I
understand correctly the way SC works (I don't use it) then you should make sure
that you have executed your MODE command in DOS *in the same work area* from
which you start Word 5.5. Your MODE settings will not apply to other work areas
under SC.

Second, you might want to try setting COM1: parameters before pointing LPT1: to
it. Try this:

MODE COM1:9600,n,8,1
MODE LPT1=COM1

> When NOT rerouting LPT1 to COM1 in the same above conditions the program
> remains quiet some time after the PRINT command and seems to send information
> somewhere, the printer does not react at all.

Do you mean that this happens when you do not use the MODE command, and instead
use Word 5.5 Printer Setup to print to COM1:? Again, I might suggest you first
try setting COM1: parameters before starting Word 5.5.

My suggestions are shots in the dark, so I hope I am not wasting your time!

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Subject:      MINIX and PAL library and other questions

It would nice if we could port the PAL library to MINIX. I imagine that a
MINIX executable should be able to call the same interrupts as a DOS
program. Does this sound possible? Can you create MINIX executables that are
larger than physical memory? I know that most unices will swap, does MINIX?
It seems to me that this OS could be the better alternative to DOS on the
palmtop if the applications can also be had. It is certainly more powerful
than DOS.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto İmailto:garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH¨
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 4:32 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ MINIX
>
>
> h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> > Does anyone know how to create a new user on MINIX?
>
> Maybe by talking to the user trying to convince him or her that MINIX
> is useful? <G>
>
> If you mean a user *account* <G>, you might want to try "mkuser" or
> "adduser" as these are the commands on most UNIXes I know. If they
> don't exist, you might want to add the home directory manually and add
> a line to the passwd file.
>
> Andreas
>
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> PE 2.2b and PIM 1.0a are now available from www.dasoft.com as pe.zip
> and pim.zip.
>
> New in these versions:
>
> PE: Fixed bug that crashed PE when no file was given upon start
> PE: Margin=3Dn in the İFile¨ section of PE.CFG now sets the left
> margin to n for printing
>
> Andreas

Andreas,

This new PE version was very kind of you to release.  I now will
be doing all my document creation, editing, spell checking &
printing from my LX, thanks a lot!  I found, for me, that the
left margin set at the default of 8 gives a nice 1" left margin.
Also I changed my wrap setting in my pe.cfg file to 66, which
also gives me a 1" right margin.

I did encounter something unusual as I started to print my
documents now from PE, rather than MEMO.  When I print my
document, depending on how much text I have on the first line,
the first line gets shifted over to the right 14 or more spaces.
The last line gets shifted over to the left edge of the document,
ignoring the left margin setting.

I did find a work around for this.  If I have at least one blank
line at the top of the document, with a carriage return, the first
line prints just fine.  If I have a carriage return at the end of
the document, the last line prints just fine.  Strange huh?

Adding blank lines to the top of the document is not so bad,
because if I want a 1" top margin, then I have to have 4 blank
lines at the top.  A extra carriage return after the last line, is
no big deal either.

I just though I would bring this to your attention, in case this
is causing any other connected problems somehow.  I really would
love to be able to control the top and bottom margins, and how
many lines per page, similar to MEMO, but this added left margin
makes for much more attractive printed documents, and I thank you
again for taking the time to incorporate that request into this
new release.

I also just discover the F6 key menu pop-up of commonly used
files, and I am bad because I added a label entry in the pe.cfg
file to place the label "Files" over top of your "PIM" F6 label.
I haven't tried your new PIM program yet, due to the built in
programs filling all my needs at this time, but thanks for
releasing that to us also.

I think I have brought this up to Avi before, and I know PE is
freeware, but would you consider taking a donation toward future
development of your programs, if so, I would be more than willing
to mail you off a check (non-rubber) <g>.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
In Sterling Heights, Michigan
Email Address: hocking@flash.net
This message sent using POST/LX
from a HP 200LX DOS based palmtop PC
Upgraded to Double Speed-8 meg
That I stow in my pocket!

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 Raymond,
I can't help you with the first question but Checkfree can help you with the
second one.  I had the same problem and they gave me the clue. I just can't
remember what it was.
Cheers
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I think that the game liek that to play is the older versions of
Nethack. I play version 3.0 I think it is, very detailed.  The latest
versions do work on the HP200, but are just too slow to use (like 20
seconds per move, even at double speed).
Bryan


David Sargeant wrote:
>
> So, I'm curious: what version of Rogue are people running on their 200LX?
> I was running the one on SUPER (in fact, I think I sent that 1.1 version
> to Mitch to replace the buggy 1.0 version that was on there) but I
> recently found Epyx Rogue which has a lot of enhancements.
>

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> I'm in the market for a new case for my 200LX and I was wondering if
> anyone had any suggestions/preferences/ceveats/etc. for me.  I had a

Visit Case Tech at:

http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/home.mhtml?shop=casetech

They offer four or five models of commercial-quality leather cases for the
200LX, ranging from $30 to $50 Canadian -- which is about $20 to $35 U.S. at the
moment. I believe they will also customize them for you.

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Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> I think that the game liek that to play is the older versions of
                        ¬¬¬¬
Boy, I spell like a gamer, don't I?

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Andreas,

> Maybe by talking to the user trying to convince him or her that MINIX
> is useful? <G>

Well to me returns some use. Since I started with LINUX gateway at my
house, just from scratch MINIX offers a learning facility at the
hotel during the week.

I wish very badly having your knowledge and your experience. It is pretty
tough starting from scratch.

> If you mean a user *account* <G>, you might want to try "mkuser" or
> "adduser" as these are the commands on most UNIXes I know. If they
> don't exist, you might want to add the home directory manually and add
> a line to the passwd file.

Thank you for quick answer and your help.

Regards

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On 7/27/99 at 2:34 AM A Meshar wrote:

İSNIP¨

>> What I'm doing is jotting down (in Notetaker) the total battery time
each
>> time the batteries hit the "start charge" point, as well as the peak
>> voltage they reach.  I am hopeful this will clue me in to any aging or
>
>The peak voltage during charge is basically meaningless. All
>it means is how much you overloaded the battery and how much
>it struggled against the overload by raising the voltage. You
>will notice that from peak to the normal operating voltage
>range of the battery, it takes minutes. I.e. the battery
>drops in voltage very rapidly to reach the operating range. At
>peak ranges you will spend maybe 10 minutes - hardly anything
>significant in the service time of a battery.

I think you've missed the point of what I'm doing; if not that, you've at
least missed the "why."

I am recording the peak voltage reached during charging; in other words,
the point at which the battery voltage stalls.  As you said, the period of
time this voltage hangs around after charging is insignificant... but the
time it spends there while charging definitely *isn't*.  I have seen some
discussion that the peak voltage drops as the batteries deteriorate.  If
ABC/LX had been shutting the batteries off when they reached (for example)
2.92 volts, six months from that point it might instead be timing out after
six hours of the voltage being stalled at (again, for example) 2.85 volts.
The reason I'm recording the peak voltage is so I can be aware of any such
deterioration, and also to adjust ABC/LX so as not to unduly overstress the
batteries.

Again, remember: I'm new to both ABC/LX and NiMHs, so this is very much a
learning experience for me.  I want to understand how the whole process
works, get a "feel" for what's normal so I can tell when things have
changed.

(And I'm a Systems Analyst, which means I'm anal to boot!  <Laughing>)

>If anything, the more you push the battery into peak ranges,
>the more wear and tear it experiences, the faster it ages. It
>may be better to lose an hour of service time per charge
>cycle that stops at a lower voltage, and get a longer lasting
>battery.

Which is exactly the point of watching/recording the peak voltage: so I
*can* be sure to stop charging at a reasonable time, while still obtaining
a full charge cycle (to avoid battery deterioration moreso than any extra
run time).

>In short - kiss off the peak stuff.

Thanks, but I don't think so.  At least not now while I'm learning.

Ciao,
Rick

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Somebody asked for this for their child a while back, type (or
copy/paste) this into the c:\_dat\alarm.snd file:

K1 T150 ML L13C L27E L13D L27F E G E L9C, L13C L27E L13D L27F
L9E C L13C L27E L13D L27F E G E L9C, L9A L13D L27F L9 E C, O5
L13C O4 L27B L13A O5 L27C O4 B O5 D O4 B L9G, O5 L13C O4 L27B
A B O5 C O4 L9B G, L13F L27E L13F L27E L13F L27G L9A, O5 L9C
O4 L13D L27F L9E C

Note that there should be no hard carriage returns/line feeds
in the above, i.e. just type it in one long line and don't
press return. If you copy/paste, you'll have to delete the
carriage returns at the end of each of the lines above.

To play slower/faster, decrease/increase the 150 after the T
near the beginning of the first line.

I only tried it twice after I wrote it and I'm already sick of
it. Good luck to you!

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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:27:01 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

sp> Steve
sp> Yes, you can always defrag, even if you use EMS! I believe
sp> Paul was in error when he asserted that defragging a drive
sp> with a contiguous EMS file will break the EMS file. It won't.

sp> On occasions, when you have to define a large file such as EMM
sp> or the SC Resource Pool, you need to release enough contiguous
sp> space.

Steve:
See??? I told you defragging was a topic of debate :-}}}
I did try to defrag my C drive with emm200 installed and it was
trashed, I'm assuming by the defrag process. If I remember defragging
was warned against in the documentation, I just got more brainldead than
usual one night and worked on the wrong drive so I don't defrag my C
drive anymore. I now use SCs optimize on rare occasions, who knows, it
may help some.

regards

Paul

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Ah, okay.  That would explain why I never found fault with the 16C:  I
didn't do much of anything with real numbers other than balance my
checkbook!

Rick,
a fixed-point kinda guy, who remembers a couple of slogans from the shop in
those days:

"Real programmers don't use floats."
"You can float on the sea but don't use floats in C."
"If you can't do it with fixed-point it ain't worth doing."
"Mantissas?  Yuck.  Just give me a 64-bit word and stand back!"

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On 7/26/99 at 1:48 PM Ed Falk wrote:

>> I'm curious Ed. What made the 16C "a piece of junk" if the 11C
>> was "the most elegant hand calculator ever made"?
>
>User interface.  The 16C had a complicated & messy way for switching
>between integer and float arithmatic (you had to switch to integer to
>use the binary, octal & hex modes.) I forget the details (been about 15
>years), but basicly, if you had a numeric result from doing ordinary
>math calculations, and you wanted to switch to hex mode, do some more
>calculations, and switch back, it was very much non-trivial...

İSNIP¨

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Methinks that the SC optimize is th old ACE
(sunshine SW) defrag pgm.

yore pal al...........................................

>usual one night and worked on the wrong
drive so I don't defrag my C
>drive anymore. I now use SCs optimize on rare occasions, who knows, it
may help some.
>
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>
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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> It would nice if we could port the PAL library to MINIX. I imagine that a
> MINIX executable should be able to call the same interrupts as a DOS
> program. Does this sound possible? Can you create MINIX executables that are
> larger than physical memory? I know that most unices will swap, does MINIX?

Minix doesn't support virtual memory, so it doesn't swap. There is an
extension to Minix, called Minix VMD (or something like that) that adds
support for virtual memory, but I'd be very surprised if it didn't require
a processor that supported paging (386+ and maybe even the 286).

The only other way to get executables larger than the allowed 64kb code +
64kb data (IIRC) is to use overlays, if the MINIX C compiler supports it.

Does anyone know if the MINIX C compiler supports making dynamically
linked executables? this can greatly decrease the size of executables.


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Comments: To: "Cgldent@AOL.COM" <Cgldent@AOL.COM>

Thanks!

I remember seeing some debate on the list (about Quicken 6.0's Y2K survival
chances) but forget what the final outcome was. Guess I can do a back-up and
then change my system date.....

Thanks.

--tim

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 Raymond,
I can't help you with the first question but Checkfree can help you with the
second one.  I had the same problem and they gave me the clue. I just can't
remember what it was.
Cheers
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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Minix doesn't support virtual memory, so it doesn't swap. There is an
> extension to Minix, called Minix VMD (or something like that) that
> adds support for virtual memory, but I'd be very surprised if it
> didn't require a processor that supported paging (386+ and maybe even
> the 286).

"Mack can fix it."  <g>

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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--13CPAO wrote:

> I remember seeing some debate on the list (about Quicken 6.0's Y2K
> survival chances) but forget what the final outcome was. Guess I can
> do a back-up and then change my system date.....

I believe that only DOS versions 4.0 and lower have Y2K problems.

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You raise an interesting point. And Avi's intelligent response deals
with part of it, but also clearly not with another part. All of what
Avi says is true, but it doesn't deal with things like the fact that
`duration' of appointment, for example, in such circumstances is grossly
misrepresented. What I am  curious about, having travelled across Asia,
Europe and the Americas for lots of years is some notion of your `spec'
for what would be correct.

My analogy, perhaps useless, is that this problem is like the map
projection problem. If you are trying to take a spherical space and
represent it on a flat surface, `something's gotta give'. Similarly,
if you are taking appointments (let's take an appointment that actually
`occurs' on a plane as a bizzare example) You have the begin time, the
end time and the duration. When time zones change, something `won't add
up'. That's the mapping problem.

How would you like to have it represented? Perhaps there is some way
where we simply represent a continuous stream of `hours' into the future
but then allow the `day' to be superposed on this in a rather arbitrary
fashion.

In any event, I think you need to tell us what it means to
`handle appointments in more than one timezone in a rational matter'.
Let me assure you that your notion of `rational' is probably not
everyone else's notion of `rational', so you need to say more about
what you think `rational' would be.

"Stanley, John L." wrote:
>
>   I'm planning a fairly long trip (USA <-> Australia).
>
>   Does anyone know of any appointment manager that runs on the LX that can
> handle appointments in more than one timezone in a rational manner?  (...
> or, ideally, some way to get the built-in appointment manager to
> automatically timeshift events based on the "local timezone"...?)
>
>   Needless to say, with appointments in more than 5 timezones (and with
> crossing the international dateline...) the built-in appointment manager in
> the LX just isn't a sane way to handle this.  The most extreme example
> being; returning to the US, the LX appointment manager (and most others too)
> shows me arriving home two hours before I leave Australia...
>
>   Any advice?
>
>   Thanks,
>        ... JLS
>
>   PS:  If anyone knows of an appointment manager that handles this problem
> pretty well, even if it doesn't run on the LX, I'd appreciate a private note
> about it.  (If I can't find a pre-canned solution, I may have to
> improvise...)
>
>  --
> John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
> Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.

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Someone mentioned a utility that will remove HTML tags from a text file =
that
will run on the LX. Can someone tell me the name of it and where I might =
be
able to download a copy? Thanks in advance!

Jeff

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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:09:07 -0400 (EDT)

16m32s ago ...
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Someone mentioned a utility that will remove HTML tags from a text file =
that
> will run on the LX. Can someone tell me the name of it and where I =
might be
> able to download a copy? Thanks in advance!

Hi Jeff-

There's a bunch of these on Simtel & SUPER.  But the nicest one I've
used is one by Bruce Guthrie (who also has a BUNCH of DOS freeware).
You can get it at:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/2414/htmst906.zip

I just grabbed a copy of this to update the version I have.

HTH

-Peniel
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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:14:01 -0500 (EST)

Hey Jeff:

01h21m26s ago ...
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Someone mentioned a utility that will remove HTML tags from a text file
> that
> will run on the LX. Can someone tell me the name of it and where I =
might
> be
> able to download a copy? Thanks in advance!

        I seem to remember there is one in the NetTamer package. GoTo
        http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/

Cheers,

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Thanks Peniel, Al and all the other list members who responded so quickly =
to
my question about HTML strippers (hmm that doesn't sound good does it?). =
I
know have several to try out and see what fits my needs the best. Once
again, thanks!

Jeff

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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:27:53 -0500 (EST)

        I cleaned out my home office today, and found an old case from
        an HP hand calculator (HP12? 21? can't remember which). Anyway,
        it is about 10cm x 20cm x 2cm, brown vinyl w/black zipper &
        brown fur inside...and of course, a belt loop! If this is of
        use to anyone, drop me a note with you mailing address and its
        yours. BTW it is in good/excellent condition.

        Cheers,

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In a message dated 7/27/99 10:27:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jeffj@SCOTT.NET
writes:

> Thanks Peniel, Al and all the other list members who responded so quickly to
>  my question about HTML strippers

Jeff, ZDNET has a bunch of these on its hotfiles site.  Search under the DOS
operating system.  When you evaluate them, I suggest you pay attention to how
well they handle larger HTML files and batch operations.  Also, if you're
using HV as your viewer, you may want to try to save memory by going for a
stripper that doesn't double as a viewer.

-roger-

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Try, The Pouch at www.thrpouch.com.

Alan

----Original Message-----
   >From:       "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@enol.com>
   >To:                 HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
   >Subject:            New Case
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   >Date:       Monday, July 26, 1999 21:46
   >
   >Howdy, ya'll;
   >
   >I'm in the market for a new case for my 200LX and I was wondering if
   >anyone had any suggestions/preferences/ceveats/etc. for me.  I had a
   >belt case from Palm Tree that was OK, but didn't wear very well; so, I
   >have been a bit disappointed in the quality.  I would like something
   >with either a belt clip and/or loop, room for the 200LX and a PCMCIA
   >card or two, as well as some business cards.  I prefer something that
   >looks less "sporty" and more professional/elegant.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
   >
   >Regards,
   >Richard
   >
   >
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I don't mind what it looks like,  as long as it's good stuff inside!
(See the wish list on www.hplx.net)

Richard

Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:

> Do you really want a blue 200LX with rubber keys? ;-)

> Cheers,

> Laust

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That's fine, as long as they are intelligent people who can design well
- which seems to be evidenced by the 49g. (?)

However, the emphasis on Deskjet cartridges in Corvallis is indicative
of the decline of HP from a business that sells quality products, to a
company who just sells!

Richard Smith


Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> Unfortunately, the division and the team that created calculators and
the HP
> 200LX have long ago been dismantled.  The big product in Corvallis is
> DeskJet cartridges!

> The calculator division is now based in Australia.

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HTMLSTRIP @ SUPER.

Mikhail

Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, MD FRCPC
Forensic/Correctional Psychiatry
Tel 905-921-2255, Fax 905-628-4443
155 James South, # 167, Hamilton, Ontario, L8N 1H5  Canada


> Someone mentioned a utility that will remove HTML tags from a text file
> that
> will run on the LX. Can someone tell me the name of it and where I might
> be
> able to download a copy? Thanks in advance!
>
> Jeff
>
>            ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
>            ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:49:36 EDT
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              David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM>
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Howdy,

I have found that the Ripoff brand case works well. Try the model CO-29
or the CO-61 for a little more room.
Check out and order at:  www.kbent.com

David Peterson

>Howdy, ya'll;
>
>I'm in the market for a new case for my 200LX
>Regards,
>Richard

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:52:40 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> I'm in the market for a new case for my 200LX and I was wondering if
> anyone had any suggestions/preferences/ceveats/etc. for me.  I had a

http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/secondary.mhtml?
shop=casetech&cart=912129006-15758.db&tstamp=912129006&cat=4&subcat=44


The above should all be entered on ONE LINE to get to the site and the
HP cases.

Hard leather with a rotating clip.  The case disengages from the belt
clip BUT you do have to thread the belt into the clip loop.

I had him add enough length to allow two AA Lithium batteries to be
dropped to the bottom of the case as spares - no additional cost.  The
guy was very friendly when I called for my special needs.  I had him
also add a riveted on belt loop which would also allow a horizontal
position on the belt/waist.

I'm sure he could add room or an additional pocket for business cards.

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Please ignore this test.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:15:33 +0200
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              Hans B Pufal <hansp@DIGIWEB.COM>
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David Ness wrote:

> How would you like to have it represented? Perhaps there is some way
> where we simply represent a continuous stream of `hours' into the future
> but then allow the `day' to be superposed on this in a rather arbitrary
> fashion.

Perhaps I am being naive here, but it seems that all appointments should
be kept internally in one time zone, GMT would seem to be convenient.
The display of the data, and only the display, should reflelt whatever
time zone the user has set his machine to. Any data entered could be
entered in any time-zone (by appending its name) and then converted to
the internal "standard" time zone.

Just my penny worths,

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:36:33 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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I use the program named View150 or something like that. Found on SUPER.
It can view HTML, Word 95 and many others. It also has the ability to
print the viewed document as a plain text file.

> Someone mentioned a utility that will remove HTML tags from a text file =
=3D
> that
> will run on the LX. Can someone tell me the name of it and where I =
might =3D
> be
> able to download a copy? Thanks in advance!

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:49:31 GMT
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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:04:04 -0400, Schles wrote:

>I've found the easiest way to use 200lx and the rex is to have Schedule =
+ as
>the bridge between the two on my pc. I synch the 200lx with schedule + =
using
>puma's intellisynch for 200lx (calendar/address book/to dos), and then =
synch
>schedule + with the rex using true synch plus. It works.

Which in my case would mean giving Mr Gates some of my hard earned money =
:(

>My only complaint is I don't have a way to synch the notetaker from =
200lx
>over.

Export them as text and import as memos in True Sync? It would have to be=
 a
manual process though.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.org.uk>
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Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:40:05 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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On 27-Jul-99, David Ness wrote:
> if you are taking appointments (let's take an appointment that actually
> `occurs' on a plane as a bizzare example) You have the begin time, the
> end time and the duration. When time zones change, something `won't add
> up'. That's the mapping problem.

My kludge solution to this was to setup my flight departure time with the
start and ending times equal and then the same for my arrival time.  This
way I can set an alarm for the departure and when I change timezones in the
air my relative times are still correct.  Setting the times like this gives
a little tick mark on my timeline so that I don't try to schedule something
at that time.

-- Terry

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:33:58 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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I for one would recomend to Ed that he consider relocating to an area with
a lower crime rate! <G>

Paul Rasmussen

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From: Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: old technology (HP12C)
Date: 25. juli 1999 13:56

I'm curious Ed. What made the 16C "a piece of junk" if the 11C
was "the most elegant hand calculator ever made"?


Ed Falk wrote:

> Sadly, it got stolen, so I bought a 16C (because I do computer work.)
> The 16C was a piece of junk.  It got stolen (I barely minded), so I
> bought a 15C.  It got stolen before I'd even finished reading the
> manual.

Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)


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Date:         Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:46:06 +0200
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People come in different categories, or so I believe. There are those of us
who are organized enough in our heads to to structured programming without
the aid of structured prigramming languages, then there are those who
cannot express even a single idea clearly without several goes.

If the above is indeed an apt description of the categories of human brain
functioning, then Andreas doesn't understand why people use outliners,
'cause his brain if fairly structured in its thinking, 'else he wouldn't do
progs the way he does!

Psychological greetings from
Paul Rasmussen

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> From: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: PIM/PE
> Date: 26. juli 1999 09:47
>
> bob wrote:
> > It would be really nice if Andreas decided that he needed an outliner
> > :-)
>
> I never understood what an outliner should be good for (that I cannot
> do with a simple text editor). Maybe you want to explain so that I
> understand and maybe can provide support for what you need.
>
> Andreas
>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:51:50 +0100
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Robert Hocking wrote:
> I did encounter something unusual as I started to print my
> documents now from PE, rather than MEMO.  When I print my
> document, depending on how much text I have on the first line,
> the first line gets shifted over to the right 14 or more spaces.
> The last line gets shifted over to the left edge of the document,
> ignoring the left margin setting.

PE does not know *anything* about printing. All it does is copying data
to the PRN device, not knowing what that is nor what that device does
with the data. Maybe you have lines longer than 80 characters and the
printer does automatic wrapping or something like that?

> is causing any other connected problems somehow.  I really would
> love to be able to control the top and bottom margins, and how
> many lines per page

I already regret a lot that I gave in and implemented the left margin
thing :-(

After the left margin, there will be:

 - top and bottom margin
 - footers and headers
 - page numbers
 - proportional fonts
 - formatting such as bold/italics
 - multi-column
 - etc., etc... :-(

I think I will remove the margin thing in the next release, as then I
can simply say: what PE does is sending the text AS IS to the printer.
This is fine for getting the data out to the printer for having it on
paper.

PE is a text editor and NOT a word processor NOR a desktop (palmtop?)
publishing tool.

If you want to do word processing, either use a word processor (word
perfect or so) or a text formatter such as TeX, which you can use with
PE. If you have just very simple demands for printing, use one of the
DOS print utilities and configure PE to use it as a filter.

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:07:26 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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 use a regular camcorder battery for mine.
That way I get to choose a higher capacity battery, and pay less! <G>
- Paul Rasmussen

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> From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: OT:(sort of) Battery for DeskJet 340
> Date: 27. juli 1999 16:21
>
> Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:17:15 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>         I'm looking for a battery(C3059A) for my HP DeskJet 340. I seem
>         to be able to get one from "HP Shopping Village" (HP's OnLine
>         store) for $50 + $5 shipping. I'm having no luck finding one
>         elsewhere. Anyone know if/where I can get a better price?
>
>         TIA,
>
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Hans B Pufal wrote:
> Perhaps I am being naive here, but it seems that all appointments should
> be kept internally in one time zone, GMT would seem to be convenient.
> The display of the data, and only the display, should reflelt whatever
> time zone the user has set his machine to. Any data entered could be
> entered in any time-zone (by appending its name) and then converted to
> the internal "standard" time zone.

Unless I lived in a place with GMT, this would be pretty useless to me
as I had to enter all data INCLUDING a time zone. And even then I would
consider it very clumsy if I had to look up the timezone (and DST
settings) for each item I have to enter when it is in a different time
zone.

For example, if I fly to L.A.: the flight departure and arrival times
are *always* given in local time (which makes perfect sense to me and
they are always OK when I enter them into the HP200LX). So I had to
find out what time zone L.A. is in and then add that time zone.
Clumsiest!

And what will then be displayed? The time in GMT? And when I call
somebody in L.A. to pick me up, I would have to look up the time zone
again, and start computing at what time he or she should pick me up?
Using the 200LX, I just read what's there.

99.9% of all my timed items refer to local time. There are very, very
few items that refer to absolute time.

So if I have only one way to enter times, I definitely prefer local
times. Maybe in very few cases, a feature that allows me to enter a
time in GMT (UST) and the time would then be displayed appropriately
for the time zone in which I currently dwell would be nice. Not really
needed, but maybe nice.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:10:28 +0100
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Hi All!

How can I prevent X-Finder automatically from running twice (ore more?)
This happens everytime when Phonebook, Memo etc are running, during
switching back to X-Finder İALT+Filer-Shortcut in MoreEXM.Ini) Another
X-Finder-instance is opened then. This is eating memory and maybe causes
my HP to crash during switching between SC-Areas (I assume this in
conjunction with Software Carousel). I noticed that X-Finder was running
twice (or more) because there was another X-Finder running after closing
the first and also during checking with Taskmanager. This does not happen
with MEMO, PHONE, APPT etc. when I'm switching amongst them. I don't want
to check everytime if X-Finder is already running if switch back to it or
start it with the Taskmanager. What to do?

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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> That's fine, as long as they are intelligent people who can design
> well - which seems to be evidenced by the 49g. (?)

Designed well... that's a matter of opinion.  <g>

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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:54:40 -0500 (EST)

06h18m07s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I use the program named View150 or something like that. Found on SUPER.
> It can view HTML, Word 95 and many others. It also has the ability to
> print the viewed document as a plain text file.

        Hey, I forgot that VIEW handles HTML! As you say, View can
        print to a text file. I use it mostly for viewing & converting
        RTF.

        Cheers,


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Donglok,

The secret is to spend $30 and get a custom cable from Dave Shier.  It's about 15-18 inches long with the special connectors on each end.  Works like a charm.  I am not sure how many connectors/adaptors it takes otherwise.  Let's see.  End of palmtop ca
ble is 9 pin serial.  End of Pentax cable is 25 pin (is thinks it's parallel at this point), but if serial signal is sent from palmtop it probably will work, so you have to convert from 9 pin serial to 25 pin serial.   =Bob=

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Winfried,

Let's keep after it, there is a solution.  Ok, I have a Pentax and can try the Lotus.  The friend is 100 miles away in Wash DC.  I will give Ed a call in the next couple of days to see what he says.

If it worked once then the hardware is OK, so it is a software thing.  Are you using the serial port on the 6MP or a S/P converter to the parallel port?    =Bob=

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:29:25 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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Hi,

I tried to run zip for transfering files between the lx and my
desktop (Win 95). I just can't get it to work. I always get the
"ready/waiting" message and nothing happens. I think I have
checked everything (same baud rate, correct com-port etc.).
Any hints?

The "zipdup" program does not work either. It seems to connect,
but after a while I get the message "debug not found". But debug
is available on both computers and in the path.

???

TIA
Reinhard

PS: Maybe there is a better program available for what I want to
do: I want to have connectivity with any computer without having
to carry around a disk with transfer software. Zip/zipdup is
exactly what I am looking for if it would work.
Can I do a "remote install" with the built-in laplink?



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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:49:48 -0300
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Hey a little question, this 49g (looks terrible ja!), witch type of
processo have inside, an other time the saturn...., is nice but, a risk
like would be nicer.... (with planar memory no with backed memory...), yo=
u
know ?...

the solution for the hp200 is the elsa400 proccesor from AMD, is really
great, but who put it into a hp200 case and sell to us ?




"Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" escribi=F3:

> That's fine, as long as they are intelligent people who can design well
> - which seems to be evidenced by the 49g. (?)
>
> However, the emphasis on Deskjet cartridges in Corvallis is indicative
> of the decline of HP from a business that sells quality products, to a
> company who just sells!
>
> Richard Smith
>
> Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, the division and the team that created calculators and
> the HP
> > 200LX have long ago been dismantled.  The big product in Corvallis is
> > DeskJet cartridges!
>
> > The calculator division is now based in Australia.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:36:21 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Removing HTML Tags
In-Reply-To:  <199907280152.UAA22055x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Jul 27,
              99 08:52:35 pm
Content-Type: text

> Someone mentioned a utility that will remove HTML tags from a text file that
> will run on the LX. Can someone tell me the name of it and where I might be
> able to download a copy? Thanks in advance!

I recomment Bruce Guthrie's HTMSTRIP utility.  It does more that strip
the HTML from your file - it actually formats the resulting text file
in an appripriate manner.  I've used this utility a lot, and find it
very useful.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:43:51 -0700
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              Claud Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hello List,

I'm not sure how this thread started, but I have a problem with my screen.
I have a 100 LX that took about a six foot fall which partially dislodged
the screen from the keyboard.  What appears to be two "tabs" protrude from
the bottom of the screen and look like they belong in matching slots in the
back of the keyboard.  The unit functions perfectly (did on-line test).  I
just need to figure out how to re-attach the screen to the keyboard.  Can
anyone out there offer guidance?


tia,

Claud
----- Original Message -----
From: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: Back from the Dead


> > On my displays, the zebra strips are almost always the problem.  But of
> > course that's because I take my display apart a lot more than most
people.
> > <g>
>
> That's why I said rare. Most folks don't tend to take the screen totally
> apart.<g>
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:20:26 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:04:34 -0400 (EDT)

01h54m24s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> How can I prevent X-Finder automatically from running twice (ore more?)
> This happens everytime when Phonebook, Memo etc are running, during
> switching back to X-Finder İALT+Filer-Shortcut in MoreEXM.Ini) Another
> X-Finder-instance is opened then. This is eating memory and maybe =
causes
> my HP to crash during switching between SC-Areas (I assume this in
> conjunction with Software Carousel). I noticed that X-Finder was =
running
> twice (or more) because there was another X-Finder running after =
closing
> the first and also during checking with Taskmanager.

Strange...  I'd guess you're right about SC being involved.  I'm not
running SC, and don't get this problem.  On my palmtop, the İMore¨ key
is remapped to start XF, and XF closes Filer on startup.  If one or
more PIMs are opened, and the İMore¨ (XF) key is pressed, it switches
to XF, but there's only one copy running if I check with Tasklist.
Also, closing the PIMs restores the free memory (no duplicate XF
sessions).

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:56:38 -0400
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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:42:25 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

        Anyone know a source for the plastic "jewel" cases for PCMCIA
        cards? I'd like to get 10 or a dozen.

        Thanks!

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:51:02 -0600
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              Lisa Cook <lcook@WASATCH.COM>
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Paal,
how do you get the cover on on the larger batteries?
Lisa


Paal Rasmussen wrote:

>  use a regular camcorder battery for mine.
> That way I get to choose a higher capacity battery, and pay less! <G>
> - Paul Rasmussen
>
> ----------
> > From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: OT:(sort of) Battery for DeskJet 340
> > Date: 27. juli 1999 16:21
> >
> > Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:17:15 -0500 (EST)
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> >         I'm looking for a battery(C3059A) for my HP DeskJet 340. I seem
> >         to be able to get one from "HP Shopping Village" (HP's OnLine
> >         store) for $50 + $5 shipping. I'm having no luck finding one
> >         elsewhere. Anyone know if/where I can get a better price?
> >
> >         TIA,
> >
> > *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
> > *Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:11:11 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Subject:      Re: Printing from WORD on the Palmtop
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Bob,

thanks for your tenacity ! I am looking forward to your trial.

I have been experimenting mainly with the Pocket Jet at the moment.

On the 6MP I have used the parallel port with the Greenwich cable s/p
converter (no success) and the Infrared port (no success either,
perhaps I need another IRDA driver?).

I have never thought of using the Printer's serial port. It must be
the smaller plug of the two, also with 18 contacts, but I do not have
a cable for it and will now get one and try it out.

Thanks again and regards
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:13:48 -0700
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      printing problems

While you guys are working on printing from Word 5.5,
maybe you can help me out too. I seldom print from my
lx because it just won't work most of the time.
Sometimes it will print ok, then it decides it doesn't
want to anymore. No error messages. The software
thinks it printed, but nothing happens.

I have two lx's, two cables from Shier, and four
printers. So I don't think it's a hardware problem. I
have had the problem with Sysman apps and DOS
programs. When it stops printing, I've tried
rebooting, and/or running DOS only. I've tried
rebooting with stripped down autoexec.bat and
config.sys. I've tried both serctl and lxstat to turn
on the com port. I've tried using the mode command.

The only consistency is that once it stops printing,
nothing will make it start again. When I try a few
days or weeks later, it may work fine, for a while.

Most frustating!

Any ideas?

tia,
n.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:55:44 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Claud Cameron wrote:

> I'm not sure how this thread started, but I have a problem with my
> screen. I have a 100 LX that took about a six foot fall which
> partially dislodged the screen from the keyboard.  What appears to be
> two "tabs" protrude from the bottom of the screen and look like they
> belong in matching slots in the back of the keyboard.  The unit
> functions perfectly (did on-line test).  I just need to figure out how
> to re-attach the screen to the keyboard.  Can anyone out there offer
> guidance?

Happens to mine all the time, since I rebuilt my palmtop with parts that
don't quite mesh.  Just push down hard on the top of the hinge and the
tabs should pop back into place.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:04:41 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Because the Nokia 7110 will be delayed until November I think I want to
buy a Siemens S25 until the 7110 get released..

I have tried to find out if the S25 supports the Etsi 07.05, throug
postings in newsgroups, but with no luck..

I have found this on a website:(cellular.co.za/siemens_s25.htm)

Siemens S25 Data services:
Integrated Internet access
Built in modem
IrDA interface
Remote Control (via AT-C)
SMS Managmement (MT,MO.CB)
Phonebook management

Does anything of the above indicate that the phone will work with the
Robot/lx script for sms and phonebook down/upload?

Thanks in advance..

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:04:51 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Multi-timezone appointments
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I'm afraid you are being naive. What you suggest is just the error
that causes so much trouble for the Palm based systems.

You see, when I make an appointment for lunch in some distant town,
the whole issue of `time zone' doesn't come up naturally, so I am
likely to enter it at 12:00 without realizing that by the time I am
going to `use' the entry, I'll actually be in that time zone.

It actually goes even further. When I make an appointment for lunch
in Paris, I honestly don't even know what time zone Paris is in. All
I know is that the luncheon date is for 1300 and that my watch will
be properly set when the day for the appointment comes.

Hans B Pufal wrote:
>
> David Ness wrote:
>
> > How would you like to have it represented? Perhaps there is some way
> > where we simply represent a continuous stream of `hours' into the future
> > but then allow the `day' to be superposed on this in a rather arbitrary
> > fashion.
>
> Perhaps I am being naive here, but it seems that all appointments should
> be kept internally in one time zone, GMT would seem to be convenient.
> The display of the data, and only the display, should reflelt whatever
> time zone the user has set his machine to. Any data entered could be
> entered in any time-zone (by appending its name) and then converted to
> the internal "standard" time zone.
>
> Just my penny worths,
>

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:36:11 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Multi-timezone appointments
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That's an interesting point, as it implies that you would need to reset the time zone of the LX in order to be able to correctly enter an appointment that would take place in that time zone, e.g. Lunch on Monday in Paris.

Schedule+ does this OK for one secondary timezone, as it can list two time zones in the day view.  I've used this to correctly work with the EST and GMT.

The problem on the LX is that if you don't enter appointments at the correct 'universal' time (i.e. the time it will be 'back home', in my case GMT/BST) then if you do change the timezone on the LX the appointment will appear at the wrong time.

If you don't change the timezone of the LX when you travel, it will show the appointment at the correct time, but it will of course itself display (and alarm at) the wrong time.   That's a bit like a paper diary, which of course lets you the user work out what the time really is.

What is really lethal is when you are using e-mailed appointments to set up your meeting, or you are synchronising the LX with a PC.   The PC will almost always store appointments as GMT-relative, so when a US user mails me a meeting appointment (a special Outlook mail type) it will appear to be at a silly time (worse still,  a plausible but wrong time), until I go to the US and reset the clock of the PC.  Now I'm used to that.   If the user e-mails me an ordinary mail that says 'meet at 9am' then it's up to me to enter it in the diary at 9am -5 hours or whatever - which is very unnatural.

I don't think there is one solution, we all work in different ways.  Just be aware of the time zone, get a wallfull of clocks so you can pretend to be really important.

If anyone can create a hotkey to toggle the timezone when in the appointments on the LX, that might be useful ?

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:35:55 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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> Tomas Moberg wrote:
> > GOT >AT+CSCS=3D"PCCP437"
> > ERROR
>
> Seems that your phone does not support the PC code page 437 (character
> set) You might want to try replacing "PCCP437" in the script by
> "8859-1".

I changed AT+CSCS=3D"PCCP437" to AT+CSCS=3D"8859-1" and AT+CSCS=3D"PCCP885=
9-1"
but that did not work.

> And if that does not work either, maybe delete the line wich
> sends that command and also the line after it, which waits for the
> reply.

Wholy macarony! - IT WORKS!
Im impressed - Thanks for another fine tool that makes me keep up with
new technology.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:48:53 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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Maybe what I found out is nothing new: I am using the "Andrew"-
font. Normally you will have to start AppMgr before the font
activates. I found out that it will also activate after the Dos-
command "mode 80". Saves time if you want to boot to DOS directly.

Reinhard


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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:09:02 +0200
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Reinhard,

> Maybe what I found out is nothing new: I am using the "Andrew"-
> font. Normally you will have to start AppMgr before the font
> activates. I found out that it will also activate after the Dos-
> command "mode 80". Saves time if you want to boot to DOS directly.

An alternativ is zoom-function (Fn-space).

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:54:11 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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From:         Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Multi-timezone appointments
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I don't travel much, but I do go back and forth between Memphis and Reno
pretty regularly. (2 hour time difference)

If I have an 8am flight to Reno on Thursday, and a 1pm meeting in Reno,
I just go to Thursday and enter my flight at 8am and my meeting at 1pm.

On Thursday morning the 8am appointment is correct for Memphis. When I
get to Reno I set the LX system time to the current Reno time (at the
same time I re-set my wristwatch). Now the 1pm appointment is correct
for Reno. Not very sophisticated, but it works for me.

Steve



        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brown, William İSMTP:wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, July 28, 1999 8:36 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Multi-timezone appointments

        That's an interesting point, as it implies that you would need
to reset the time zone of the LX in order to be able to correctly enter
an appointment that would take place in that time zone, e.g. Lunch on
Monday in Paris.


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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:34:04 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I know that there are those among us that have nice .lzh and .zip files
which contain hundreds of icons and there is now even a nifty icon server =
on
palmtop.net. I'm curious if anyone has a collection of fonts that might =
be
zipped up in one nice handy archive?

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:52:12 -0400
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I think if you do a fn-zoom it also works.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhard Mueller İmailto:molitor@01019FREENET.DE¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:49 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ andrew font
>
>
> Maybe what I found out is nothing new: I am using the "Andrew"-
> font. Normally you will have to start AppMgr before the font
> activates. I found out that it will also activate after the Dos-
> command "mode 80". Saves time if you want to boot to DOS directly.
>
> Reinhard
>
>
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On 07-28 05:09pm, you wrote

> Reinhard,
>
> > Maybe what I found out is nothing new: I am using the "Andrew"-
> > font. Normally you will have to start AppMgr before the font
> > activates. I found out that it will also activate after the Dos-
> > command "mode 80". Saves time if you want to boot to DOS directly.
>
> An alternativ is zoom-function (Fn-space).

Yes, but the mode command can be easily added to the autoexec.bat,
just after andrew.

Cheers,
Reinhard


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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:49:32 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Multi-timezone appointments
In-Reply-To:  <379F1C13.B9EEE251@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Jul 28,
              99 11:04:51 am
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> > Perhaps I am being naive here, but it seems that all appointments should
> > be kept internally in one time zone, GMT would seem to be convenient.
> > The display of the data, and only the display, should reflelt whatever
> > time zone the user has set his machine to. Any data entered could be
> > entered in any time-zone (by appending its name) and then converted to
> > the internal "standard" time zone.

I think the system proposed makes sense, and with a few additional
features, could be a workable arrangement.  First, and someone just
pointed out, there would have to be a simple and fast way (like a
hotkey) to change or cycle through timezones.  Furthermore, in addition
to displaying appointments in a current timezone, the data *entry* of
times would have to be flexible enough to permit the optional specification
of a timezone.  I could envision a scheme where one could provide various
"suffices" to the numerical time to specify the zone.  I would suggest
it allow the user to specify the hour offset, the name of the zone, the
city, or simply "Local", which would be a floating appointment that would
appear at the same time no matter what time zone you were in (just like
currently done w/the 200LX).  One could further specify the default
action to take when the zone suffix was omitted, say either interpret
the entry as local, GMT, or other.  I think I would prefer such a
system.  It could be made to behave just like the system we're used to,
but could also be expanded to meet the needs expressed here by others.
But hey... we're just speculating here anyway.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:43:22 -0700
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David

> If I remember correctly (I'm too lazy to look at the source code) That is
> EXACTLY how it works. The ems driver not only has to be contiguous but also
> has to be on a 16K page boundary as far as the memory map of the palmtop is
> concerned.

Are you sure about the 16K boundary? I think you are actually
right, but cannot recall...

> Avi, you are giving bad advice here. The principle should be PLAY IT SAFE.
> If you are going to defrag, remove the emm200.dat file and recreate it.
> (IMHO)

Agree completely! My position is that defragmentation is not
needed to begin with.

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Mack,

> > The opposite! Defragging takes files which are spread on
> > clusters all over the drive and puts thenm in nicely organized
> > contiguous clusters. So EMS will remain unfragmented, but may
> > move to another spot on the drive, but that should not hurt
> > its usage (unless the EMS driver does some direct writing
> > without consulting the FAT.)
>
> My TREMM driver detects the fact that the file has moved and will not load
> if that is the case since it has to be in an exact position based on a 16k
> boundary to work.

Ok, that is the confirmation. My point in the reply was that
defragging is NOT necessary to begin with. Thanks for the 16K
boundary confirmation.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:43:32 -0700
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> Recently I have started using an Australian external Modem called  "Modem 98"
> which is a 33.6K modem about 2/3 the size of my palmtop. It is supposed to
> run off 7.5V but the wall wart that comes with it actually supplies 9V under
> load. So what the hell! I bought a 9V battery connector and a plug for the
> power adaptor and tried it out. It worked for about 2 weeks every day on
> batteries reading (mainly) the email from this list, connecting at 19200
> baud twice a day. So now I have a battery modem for when I'm not near a wall.

Ok, I checked on my USR. The wallwart specifies output 9V
1000mA. Is there anyway that I can adapt a battery to that?
Any ideas how? Could be fun to run a USR 56kbps modem on a 9V
recharcheable battery! :-)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:43:28 -0700
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John,

> > From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
> ... snip ...
> > Agree. If you already know how to stich, it is just as
> > hard/easy to stich a fragmented file as it is a consolidated
> > file.
>
>   Sorry Avi, but this is just plain WRONG!  As someone who's spent weeks
> "stitching" drives back together after a disaster, I can tell you without a
> doubt, that restoring a large file that's all in one block is infinitely
> easier than having to figure out which fragmented clusters (out of many
> thousand clusters)belong to which file (and in what order)....

Well, I stitched more than my share of files, incl. palmtop
and we simply will have to agree to disagree. Once you
understand the method, it is more raw activity, but takes no
more brains than the first one.

>   BTW, for what it's worth...  The easiest and fastest way to defrag the C:
> drive is to MOVE all the files to temporary folder on a flash card and then
> copy them back.  (If you have an EMS file or hidden/system files (like
> C:\_DAT\ALARM.Q), just leave them on the drive.  The small amount of
> fragmentation they may cause when copying the files back into place is
> probably less than you'll normally cause by adding a large note to a
> phonebook file...)

I think so too, and suggested the same.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:43:03 -0800
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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> How can I prevent X-Finder automatically from running twice (ore more?)
> This happens everytime when Phonebook, Memo etc are running, during
> switching back to X-Finder İALT+Filer-Shortcut in MoreEXM.Ini) Another
> X-Finder-instance is opened then. This is eating memory and maybe causes
> my HP to crash during switching between SC-Areas (I assume this in
> conjunction with Software Carousel). I noticed that X-Finder was running
> twice (or more) because there was another X-Finder running after closing
> the first and also during checking with Taskmanager.


Hi Axel and List

Are you running EXKey? If so, is it installed in your hp.bat or your
autoexec.bat? Try switching it around.

I had this same problem once and I think the aboved is what fixed it, but am
not for sure.


HTH




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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:15:16 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Multi-timezone appointments
Comments: To: "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <92C6CDA989B8D2118D59006008BD51AF18A7AF@rc.addcoinc.com>; from
              Stanley, John L. on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 10:24:20PM -0500
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Can't help with a pointer to a good app, but I have a very strong feeling
about what one would look like. The key, in my opinion, would be to treat
times as an invarient absolute scale. Whether you want to store 'em in some
kind of packing of the printable representation, or in something more like
Unix's time_t (integer seconds since midnight Jan 1 1970), in any case store
all times always in GMT or UTC or Zulu or whatever you like to call it, and
treat timezones, including and especially daylight savings time shifts, but
also timezone shifts from travelling, as something that only happens in the
display part of the app. A simple calendar run that way would maintain a
coherent view of the relationships between times of events in different
timezones, and you could look at all the events in the same timezone, and
change what timezone that might be. A more sophisticated calendar app could
add a field to every event giving a preferred display timezone for that event,
but _using_ that field might make it easy for you to confuse yourself:-).

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:14:45 GMT
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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:15:33 +0200, Hans B Pufal wrote:

>Perhaps I am being naive here, but it seems that all appointments should
>be kept internally in one time zone, GMT would seem to be convenient.
>The display of the data, and only the display, should reflelt whatever
>time zone the user has set his machine to. Any data entered could be
>entered in any time-zone (by appending its name) and then converted to
>the internal "standard" time zone.

Surely you just want the appointment time to be considered "local" =
wherever
you are. If it's entered as just a time value which doesn't change as you
change your time zone setting it will do what is required. e.g. If you =
set
an appointment for 3pm in San Francisco it should be stored as 3pm with =
no
time zone interference.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.org.uk>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:28:43 +0000
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Subject:      Re: MINIX and PAL library and other questions
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.990728015846.1500A-100000@ask.diku.dk>; from Laust
              Brock-Nannestad on Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 02:07:03AM +0200
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1999-07-28-00:07:03 Laust Brock-Nannestad:
> Minix doesn't support virtual memory, so it doesn't swap.

As a trivial point of usage, I'd disagree with that statement. Minix might not
support demand-paged virtual memory, but it most definitely supports virtual
memory, program relocation, and swapping. On an 8086 it achieves code
relocation by confining itself to small memory models, and keeping the segment
values as variables in the process table.

But without demand paging you can't achieve the desired effect making virtual
memory appear larger than real memory. In fact, on 8086 machines it's
excruciating to even try and do programs bigger than 64KB code, since the
segment registers needed to reach outside one 16-big segment are used by the
OS for relocating processes.

To get demand-paged virtual memory you need to have hardware that's not
available in 8086's, namely a proper mmu. To get code bigger than 64K without
the excruciating pain of overlays, you need to either have an mmu, or else
deprive the OS of the use of segment registers for code relocation (hence
MS-DOS).

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:30:52 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> Built in modem
> IrDA interface
> Remote Control (via AT-C)
> SMS Managmement (MT,MO.CB)
> Phonebook management
>
> Does anything of the above indicate that the phone will work with the
> Robot/lx script for sms and phonebook down/upload?

From the above (modem, IrDA, SMS, Phonebook) I would assume that it
works. IrDA and built-in modem sounds as if WWW/LX could talk to it and
since it is a newer phone, it is very unlikely that the AT commands to
handle SMS and the phonebook are anything else but the standard.

But the only save way to find out is to try...

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:35:05 -0400
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I would like to purchase a DOS software program called Automator mi. MI
stands for Mainframe Interface.

I just got a Lotus add in program called Sideways 3.3 to work on the
200LX and would be interested in any other programs written by the same
company (Funk Software):

Formula Editor - edits @functions
InWord         - Full function word processor that runs inside 123
Noteworthy     - Spreadsheet annotator
Allways        - Spreadsheet publisher
The Worksheet Utilities - 6 utilities:

                          Formula editor
                          Search and replace
                          Print settings
                          File Manager
                          Autosave
                          Range column width

Sincerely,
Cliff Crittenden

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:45:58 +0100
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wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK Brown, William wrote:

> That's an interesting point, as it implies that you would need to reset
> the time zone of the LX in order to be able to correctly enter an
> appointment that would take place in that time zone, e.g. Lunch on
> Monday in Paris.

I guess you misunderstood. This is NO problem on the LX. It is,
however, a problem on the Palms and under WinCE. Using the LX, you
enter "12pm lunch" while you are in your local timezone. Then you move
to Paris, adjust the time zone to MET and look at your appointment book
and see: "12pm lunch".

> The problem on the LX is that if you don't enter appointments at the
> correct 'universal' time (i.e. the time it will be 'back home', in my
> case GMT/BST) then if you do change the timezone on the LX the
> appointment will appear at the wrong time.

Not so. The LX does not move around the items in time (unless you speak
about the WinCE LX toys - I mean the 100/200LX).

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:46:22 -0700
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For all you who wanted to try Epyx Rogue, it's available at
http://www.hplx.net/david/rogue.zip .  By the way, it only works for me
when I run it on the 200LX; otherwise, it kills me very early (after only
a few moves) and tells me that my character was "Software Pirate killed by
Copy Protection Mafia."  Some sort of peculiar copy-protection scheme, it
appears.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:27:48 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:45:30 -0400 (EDT)

02h06m11s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> Maybe what I found out is nothing new: I am using the "Andrew"-
> font. Normally you will have to start AppMgr before the font
> activates. I found out that it will also activate after the Dos-
> command "mode 80". Saves time if you want to boot to DOS directly.

Interesting...  Did you mean SysMgr or AppMgr?  Since getting XF set up
the way I want, I never open AppMgr, and my font (based on Andrew)
shows up.  A few years ago, I had a setup that booted to DOS and opened
HDM instead of AppMgr, and the fonts worked there, too.  Maybe anything
that switches display mode will activate the new fonts.


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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:27:55 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:53:20 -0400 (EDT)

01h19m16s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I know that there are those among us that have nice .lzh and .zip files
> which contain hundreds of icons and there is now even a nifty icon =
server on
> palmtop.net. I'm curious if anyone has a collection of fonts that might =
be
> zipped up in one nice handy archive?

Are you looking for .com font loaders or .hfn and .vfn font sets?  For
the .com files (and source) there's fontstuff.zip on SUPER.  I think I
still have a .zip of some .hfn & .vfn fonts I sent to another guy on
the list.

Later

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:30:17 -0400
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              "Wittkamper, John" <jwittkamper@V-ONE.COM>
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I've been looking around for the development kit and the spare parts kit and
haven't found anyplace that sells them. Going to HP's site was really
futile.

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In case anyone is interested in "Roguelike" games, here are a couple of
links:

http://elektron.et.tudelft.nl/~erots/rogue/links.html
<http://elektron.et.tudelft.nl/~erots/rogue/links.html>
http://thangorodrim.angband.org/ <http://thangorodrim.angband.org/>

Steve

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        Subject:        Epyx Rogue

        For all you who wanted to try Epyx Rogue, it's available at
        http://www.hplx.net/david/rogue.zip .  By the way, it only works
for me
        when I run it on the 200LX; otherwise, it kills me very early
(after only
        a few moves) and tells me that my character was "Software Pirate
killed by
        Copy Protection Mafia."  Some sort of peculiar copy-protection
scheme, it
        appears.

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I downloaded this yesterday off the net. Nifty game! I like it! It's
kind of like playing Doom in map mode. : )

I discovered that there is a whole community of people who are into
"Roguelike" games.
When I got home last night, I downloaded one of these Roguelike games
called Angbard (I think) that is for 386's and higher. (There is also a
version that I believe will run on the LX). It works exactly like Rogue
(hence, 'Roguelike'!), but it has much improved graphics. Very cool.

Thanks list for turning me on to yet another neat app for my LX!

Steve




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        From:   David Sargeant İSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
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        Subject:        Epyx Rogue

        For all you who wanted to try Epyx Rogue, it's available at
        http://www.hplx.net/david/rogue.zip .  By the way, it only works
for me
        when I run it on the 200LX; otherwise, it kills me very early
(after only
        a few moves) and tells me that my character was "Software Pirate
killed by
        Copy Protection Mafia."  Some sort of peculiar copy-protection
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It has been fascinating reading this thread.

What has become clear to me is that there are two wildly different mental
models of time that various people carry around with them.

Some contributors in this thread have a purely relative model of time; time
is what time it seems to be locally at the moment. If congress says you
are in a different timezone, then time itself has changed. If you travel
across a meridian east or west, time changes. Time marches normally when you
aren't moving and congress isn't in session, and everybody else lives in
some deranged and distorted fantasy world if their own, so if you're talking
with someone, perhaps via email, who is in a different timezone, and say
want to set up an international conference call, then you may have to apply
a correction to a time they offer (unless they are already performing that
courtesy for you), but time is relative, and intervals between events in
different timezones are ill-defined at best, meaningless at worst. Yes, you
can easily land hours before you take off, some trips take negative time.
People in London are weirdos who show up for work ridiculously early, but the
lazy bums to get to knock off and go out drinking in the early afternoon, so I
guess that makes up for it. I live in NYC. If I lived in Paris I'd feel
differently about folks in London. Time is relative.

Other participants prefer to envision time as an absolute. It doesn't jump
around when congress is in session. It doesn't perform wild and crazy warps
when you fly east/west. It might oonch a little bit if you can manage to fly
fast enough, but LX's builtin clocks aren't accurate enough for that to be a
worry:-). Mostly time marches on consistently and reliably. Intervals aren't a
problem. No trips will take negative time. The time a trip takes, as computed
by subtracting the start time from the end time, will be within measurement
error of the time that seems to go by as you take that trip. On input, and on
output, you need to choose a timezone, and for most purposes it's convenient
to have the system run with a long-term default --- which might change if you
fly, or if enough politicians think it'd be fun to change it. But the
underlying time is on a straightforward absolute scale, decoupled from issues
of timezones.

Each view has its problems. Those of you who favour relative time get to
ignore some timezone conversion problems --- e.g. when you make a date with
someone in another timezone, then fly to that timezone, reset your watches and
computer clocks, then meet the appointment. You don't get to ignore some
others; scheduling conference calls across timezones being an outstanding
example. Scheduling computer downtime is another I've enjoyed pondering:-).
And you have to abandon the expectation that intervals will make sense; it's
just life that sometimes flights take negative time, and if it's hard to
represent that in an appt book, oh well.

Those of us who favour an absolute time model are forced to take into account
the other person's timezone whenever we do anything that straddles timezones,
one way or another; we can't just enter an appointment as a simple time, on
the grounds that we'll have moved to that timezone by the time that
appointment rolls around. If the timezone of an event is not in the current
default input timezone, we have to cope. Coping is (in my opinion) easier if
you use a 24-hour clock; far fewer boundary conditions that make funky
exceptions. And it might be nice and sexy if time entry fields had an optional
timezone entry companion, which defaulted to the currently-set local system
timezone, and offered flexible specifications options for the timezone being
entered.

It's not clearly obvious to me that I'm right and you are wrong. Nor that you
are right and I am wrong. We clearly disagree here, though. I really thought
the LX was a butt-headedly stupid design on those occasions when I travelled,
made me wish I had a sane appt app, but aside from that I could ignore it. I
guess the real point is that if your tool uses a different model from you, the
results won't please you.

-Bennett

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  I know that there are some countries where the modem standards are differ
from those in the US.  I'm wondering if the modems in Australia are the same
as those in the US.  Anyone know?  Does it matter if they're trying to
connect at 9600, 14400 or 57600?

  Thanks,
       ... JLS

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Bennett Todd wrote:
> It has been fascinating reading this thread.
>
> What has become clear to me is that there are two wildly different mental
> models of time that various people carry around with them.

Nice analysis!

The only problem I see is that you seem to prefer the *wrong* model. <G>

Andreas

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:27:55 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> Are you looking for .com font loaders or .hfn and .vfn font sets?  For
> the .com files (and source) there's fontstuff.zip on SUPER.  I think I
> still have a .zip of some .hfn & .vfn fonts I sent to another guy on
> the list.

I guess the .com since I would like to load them into my autexec.bat =
file.
How does one convert the .hfn and .vfn into something like the .com =
files?

Jeff

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I guess the .com since I would like to load them into my autexec.bat
> file. How does one convert the .hfn and .vfn into something like the
> .com files?

I believe that you can convert them over with Pal Font Editor (PFE), which
is bundled with the PAL tools, but then you have to have Gilles Kohl's FCL
(Font Compiler and Loader, I think) to compile the font into a .com file.
I believe that piece of software is $15, and I'm not sure where it can be
found.

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Subject:      Fonts

Are you saying the icon server will serve up the
icons without them being opened in their own
DIR?  They can all be zipped?   Oh wow...
awesome.

yore pal al.................................

>I know that there are those among us that have
nice .lzh and .zip files which contain hundreds of
icons and there is now even a nifty icon server on
palmtop.net. I'm curious if anyone has a collection
of fonts that might be zipped up in one nice handy archive?  Jeff

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In a message dated 7/28/1999 02:46:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET writes:

> I really thought the LX was a butt-headedly stupid design on those
occasions when I travelled,  made me wish I had a sane appt app, but aside
from that I could ignore it.

You might try my approach, which is to NEVER change my watch or LX time.
Thus, when I am in California a meeting which is set for 0800 local time,
takes place at 1100 on my watch -- which is the time that I set in my
Appointment Book.  I make all the adjustments mentally.  This also helps with
Jet Lag when I get home.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:34:17 -0500, Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Are you saying the icon server will serve up the
> icons without them being opened in their own
> DIR?  They can all be zipped?   Oh wow...
> awesome.

No, I didn't mean that. Check out the icon server on palmtop.net and =
you'll
see all the choice you have for icons.

Jeff

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Steve,

> I don't travel much, but I do go back and forth between Memphis and Reno
> pretty regularly. (2 hour time difference)
>
> If I have an 8am flight to Reno on Thursday, and a 1pm meeting in Reno,
> I just go to Thursday and enter my flight at 8am and my meeting at 1pm.
>
> On Thursday morning the 8am appointment is correct for Memphis. When I
> get to Reno I set the LX system time to the current Reno time (at the
> same time I re-set my wristwatch). Now the 1pm appointment is correct
> for Reno. Not very sophisticated, but it works for me.

Thanks. This example is a much more lucid one than what I
tried to tell Brown, William İSMTP:wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK¨

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> The problem on the LX is that if you don't enter
> appointments at the correct 'universal' time (i.e. the time it
> will be 'back home', in my case GMT/BST) then if you do change
> the timezone on the LX the appointment will appear at the
> wrong time.

I think the LX does not work like this. When I entered
appointments for London, say 9am, while I was STILL IN THE
USA, they still showed at 9am AFTER I changed the time zone
to London. Please try it. Enter an appointment at 6am, then
change to another timezone in Worldtime. Check again the
appointment: Still shows 6am.

> If you don't change the timezone of the LX when you travel, it
> will show the appointment at the correct time, but it will of
> course itself display (and alarm at) the wrong time.   That's
> a bit like a paper diary, which of course lets you the user
> work  > out what the time really is.

Actually I believe the LX will show the same time as you
entered, no matter what timezone you change to.

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Hans,

> Perhaps I am being naive here, but it seems that all appointments should
> be kept internally in one time zone, GMT would seem to be convenient.
> The display of the data, and only the display, should reflelt whatever
> time zone the user has set his machine to. Any data entered could be
> entered in any time-zone (by appending its name) and then converted to
> the internal "standard" time zone.

I think this would work fine to some extent. The machine knows
which time zone you are in at this moment (you set the local
time in WorldTime app).

So when you set an appt for local timezone it can easily
convert to GMT.

When you set an appt for another time zone, you have to tell
it which (and that you mentioned). But it makes it a little
more complex for you to enter such an appointment, and you
have to remember (or ask) the timezone of the location where
the meeting will take place.

I think the problem will come to light when display the appts.
You would have to always display them with the timezone, and
also what would you rather show: The time relative to your
local timezone or the time relative to the appointment's
location timezone?

Looks complicated and I would lose myself and miss flights :-)
...

BTW, I really do not have an excellent solution. I just accept
it as much more important that I know when to be for an
appointment than to know the duration when moving across
timezones. And yes, I know that some flights when entered show
a "negative" time :) --- That is easier to remember as an
anomaly then all the timezones, the displacements, the
compications with daylight savings which does not occur
everywhere at the same time, and whether this appointment is
shown relative to local timezone or its location timezone...

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Andreas,

> For example, if I fly to L.A.: the flight departure and arrival times
> are *always* given in local time (which makes perfect sense to me and
> they are always OK when I enter them into the HP200LX). So I had to
> find out what time zone L.A. is in and then add that time zone.
> Clumsiest!

There is one situation which will confound the palmtop. When
you fly the SST from Europe to the US you leave say at 1200
noon. You will arrive at 10am local time. If you enter this in
the palmtop it will politely assume you meant 8pm and enter
that time, instead of assuming you are whacko and entered
arrival prior to departure :-)

Of course, I am not sure how many palmtoppers use the SST.

The same situation exists flying from Australia to Europe for
example...

There was a proposal that took care of it: Enter the same time
fro From/To for the departure appointment, and make another
appointment for the arrival time using the same time for both.
That only makes it look weird on the appointment book -
arrival appt before the departure appt. - but these are small
items! I think it is more important to not miss appointments
such as a departure of a plane, or meeting someone. That is
taken care of by the palmtop's rational way of handling
things, as you explained.

In fact, the arrival time call for pickup is also taken care
of - if you enter the arrival as a separate appointment.

Anyway...

>
> And what will then be displayed? The time in GMT? And when I call
> somebody in L.A. to pick me up, I would have to look up the time zone
> again, and start computing at what time he or she should pick me up?
> Using the 200LX, I just read what's there.
>
> 99.9% of all my timed items refer to local time. There are very, very
> few items that refer to absolute time.
>
> So if I have only one way to enter times, I definitely prefer local
> times. Maybe in very few cases, a feature that allows me to enter a
> time in GMT (UST) and the time would then be displayed appropriately
> for the time zone in which I currently dwell would be nice. Not really
> needed, but maybe nice.
>
> Andreas
>
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Al,
I don't _think_ App Manager can use zipped icons (??)... but X-Finder
can!  It's kind of nice to be able to go to your (zipped) icon directory
in X-Finder and be able to see all of them graphically displayed there.
I keep a bunch of zipped icons in one folder, and unzip the ones I'm
using in App Manager or HDM to a separate icon folder.

Steve

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        From:   Jeff Johns İSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, July 28, 1999 1:34 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Fonts

        On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:34:17 -0500, Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
wrote:

        > Are you saying the icon server will serve up the
        > icons without them being opened in their own
        > DIR?  They can all be zipped?   Oh wow...
        > awesome.

        No, I didn't mean that. Check out the icon server on palmtop.net
and you'll
        see all the choice you have for icons.

        Jeff

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> I Dean <hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK>
> works now), I've found that the CPACK applications utilise an
> undocumented (at least in my documents) INT5F function 15h (21). Does
> anybody know what this function is supposed to do? It's not mentioned
> anywhere in the PAL library documentation.

Ian,

     In the HPLX Archives maintained by Bill Childers,
http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive/Portables/HP100LX/Pal.zip
seems to be a program written with an old version of the
PAL software.  Function 15h has to do with changing the
palette from CGA 4 color to EGA 16 color.  See the README
and COUG.ASM.

HTH
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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:10:09 -0400 (EDT)

01h53m05s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I guess the .com since I would like to load them into my autexec.bat =
file.
> How does one convert the .hfn and .vfn into something like the .com =
files?

David's reply is right.  You can convert with PFE.  There's a copy of
PFE in fontstuff.zip.

However, there's a "gotcha" (ain't there always?).  I tried the
conversion on the proportional font I use in Post/LX, and it converted
OK - but into the largest font size.  Proportional spacing is lost
(not surprising since .fcl is monospaced).  My font was 12 dots high,
with widths from 4 - 13 dots.  Got converted to 16 dots wide.  Ugh!
Didn't try with taller fonts, so I don't know if PFE will crop them,
give an error or crash...

If you want play around with fonts, you should get PFE & FCL.  PFE is
free, but FCL is $15 registered from Gilles Kohl.  Fonts compiled with
unregistered copies stop working after some time.


Later

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> 1999-07-28-00:07:03 Laust Brock-Nannestad:
> > Minix doesn't support virtual memory, so it doesn't swap.
>
> As a trivial point of usage, I'd disagree with that statement. Minix might not
> support demand-paged virtual memory, but it most definitely supports virtual
> memory, program relocation, and swapping. On an 8086 it achieves code
> relocation by confining itself to small memory models, and keeping the segment
> values as variables in the process table.

Hmm. everything I've read about Minix suggests that it doesn't support
swapping. For virtual memory (demand paging) you can use a modified
version of Minix called Minix-VMD, which also adds X windows and better
networking support.

Also, one of the excersises in Tanenbaum's book (in Chapter four) is to
modify Minix to do swapping. A bit pointless if the OS already supports
it, don't you think?

Whether program relocation (and a virtual, if limited, address space
through the use of segments) is enough to call it virtual memory is open
for discussion. I thought the general description of virtual memory was
that not the whole program had to be in physical memory for it to execute,
but as I have not seen anything to suggest that Minix supports swapping
(except your message), this cannot be the case here.

BTW. there's no need to send the reply to my message to *both* the list
and my e-mail account. Either way I will read it.


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Another defrag question(s):

Is there a "layer of indirection" between the cluster on a
PCMCIA or CF card and the physical location on the chip used to
store the info?

Reason I ask is that if there isn't and you frequently defrag
said card, forcing all your clusters up to the "top" of the
card, are you in some way defeating any automatic wear
levelling built in to it?

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Does anyone please have any comments on the difference between the US
Thaddeus Computing doublespeed/memory upgrade and the Rundel
Datentechnik Germany TechRam/TechSpeed upgrade (latter same as
Times2Tech ex USA?) for the 200LX in terms of:-

* Speed
* Effect on battery life
* Complexity e.g need for additional drivers
* Cost Mb for Mb
* etc. etc?

I live in Europe and am looking for the best - performing, most cost -
effective option.

Many thanks........

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:45:58 +0100, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

>I guess you misunderstood. This is NO problem on the LX. It is,
>however, a problem on the Palms and under WinCE. Using the LX, you
>enter "12pm lunch" while you are in your local timezone. Then you move
>to Paris, adjust the time zone to MET and look at your appointment book
>and see: "12pm lunch".

Aargh!  I just checked what my nice new toy, the Rex card, does: it =
follows
the crappy model of WinCE and adjusts the appointment time. I sure hope I
remember that if I decide to rely on it while travelling.

Can anyone think *why* the designers did this? It just doesn't make =
sense.
(Don't answer that - I just read Bennett's excellent article).

--=20
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> It has been fascinating reading this thread.

Indeed. Also fascinating to contribute to it.

> What has become clear to me is that there are two wildly different mental
> models of time that various people carry around with them.

Yes, some are interested in absolute time, some in relative
time.

> I live in NYC.

Ok, that makes it clear now! :-)

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Bennett,

> Can't help with a pointer to a good app, but I have a very strong feeling
> about what one would look like. The key, in my opinion, would be to treat
> times as an invarient absolute scale. Whether you want to store 'em in some
    İ...¨

> add a field to every event giving a preferred display timezone for that event,
> but _using_ that field might make it easy for you to confuse yourself:-).

I think you described fairly well what Appointment Book and
World Time do together on the Palmtop. :)

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> If the above is indeed an apt description of the categories of human brain
> functioning, then Andreas doesn't understand why people use outliners,
> 'cause his brain if fairly structured in its thinking, 'else he wouldn't do
> progs the way he does!

Lets try it this way:

Composing text with an outliner (instead of a word processor) is like solving
equations with an RPN calculator (instead of a regular calculator) ...it allows
you to begin with the most important expressions then expand outward to finish
with the details.

:-)
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Subject:      Re: Fonts

Steve
>It's kind of nice to be able to go to your (zipped) icon
>directory... and pull them out, that's why I asked.

Thought Jeff had a better idea.

yore pal al............................

>I keep a bunch of zipped icons in one folder,
and unzip the ones I'm using in App Manager
or HDM to a separate icon folder.
>
>Steve
>

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On 28 Jul 99, at 17:28, Bennett Todd wrote:

>1999-07-28-00:07:03 Laust Brock-Nannestad:
>> Minix doesn't support virtual memory, so it doesn't swap.
>
>As a trivial point of usage, I'd disagree with that statement. Minix might not
>support demand-paged virtual memory, but it most definitely supports virtual
>memory, program relocation, and swapping. On an 8086 it achieves code
>relocation by confining itself to small memory models, and keeping the segment
>values as variables in the process table.
>
>But without demand paging you can't achieve the desired effect making virtual
>memory appear larger than real memory. In fact, on 8086 machines it's
>excruciating to even try and do programs bigger than 64KB code, since the
>segment registers needed to reach outside one 16-big segment are used by the
>OS for relocating processes.

I disagree about it being excruciating. If you get a chance take a look at Borlands
Zoom technology. I think it appeared in Turbo C version 3. It was very simple to use
and was very very fast. I used to be part of a development team working on a huge DOS
app that used overlays and sub programs but still demanded large amounts of memory
(we had to unload the Netware drivers to print). We then switched to Zoom -- so much
easier, no more hand crafting overlay map files, it all fitted in one exe AND it ran
FASTER on a 512K XT than the old version ran on a 16MHz 386 using 640K!

But of course that doesn't help with Minix. Sorry for the digression.

>To get demand-paged virtual memory you need to have hardware that's not
>available in 8086's, namely a proper mmu. To get code bigger than 64K without
>the excruciating pain of overlays, you need to either have an mmu, or else
>deprive the OS of the use of segment registers for code relocation (hence
>MS-DOS).

I agree with you about demand-paged vm, but again check out any of the old Borland
(and others) compilers they supported large (>64K code, >64K data), medium (>64K code
64K data),  and huge (>64K code >64k data and individual arrays >64K) memory
models and all on the humble XT.

Not helping much...
Mike

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At 01:39 PM 28/07/99 -0500, you wrote:
>  I know that there are some countries where the modem standards are differ
>from those in the US.  I'm wondering if the modems in Australia are the same
>as those in the US.  Anyone know?  Does it matter if they're trying to
>connect at 9600, 14400 or 57600?

Hi John & list

The main difference with modems here is the frequency of the dialtone..  ie
some US modems wont detect the dialtone so ATX3 is needed in the init
string.  Other than that no probs.  We use bell jacks into most household
phones so its simple to plug in.

Connection speeds are ok on all speeds depending line quality, also 9600 via
GSM mobile (cellular)

If you have specific questions please email me

Regards from Sydney Australia

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Yeah...that would've been cool. : )

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> Thought Jeff had a better idea.
>
> yore pal al............................
>
> >I keep a bunch of zipped icons in one folder,
> and unzip the ones I'm using in App Manager
> or HDM to a separate icon folder.
> >
> >Steve
> >
>
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Chech out the UniMicro Modem

@  www.trogoncomputer.com

found it while trawling for some information, 56k
and runs on 2 x AA batteries, very small & light

Can someone find out what they sell for in the US

Regards to all.........Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Hi,
Where can i get 80x25fnt.com and 80x24fnt.com
other than compuserve? on the net? can some one send them to me, plz?

HPLX ROX,
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I know about tnlx, for 100lx and 200lx, but what about 95lx?
are we forgetting the mother of hp handhelp dos PC's? I really like my 95
lx, and im sure  im not the only one using one. Could the maker of tblx, or
someone else PLEASE write some sort of a taskbar/fileman for 95lx? it doesnt
have to show tasks or anything, just for the interface... plz. Ive looked
everywhere for something like it, but no luck. I even tried running tblx,
heh, also no luck. I wish someone would just make one. I cant, because i
dont know how to program the lx, and barely know ANY C.

I hope someone does it, or points to a similar app.

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The website's press release page mentions an MSRP of $129 and launch date of Aug
2.

See: http://ppc.trogoncomputer.com/news/pressrelease/unimicro.html

- Longden





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Chech out the UniMicro Modem

@  www.trogoncomputer.com

found it while trawling for some information, 56k
and runs on 2 x AA batteries, very small & light

Can someone find out what they sell for in the US

Regards to all.........Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Mike Little wrote:

> I disagree about it being excruciating. If you get a chance take a look
> at Borlands Zoom technology. I think it appeared in Turbo C version 3.
> It was very simple to use and was very very fast. I used to be part of a

Wasn't it actually called the "VROOMM" overlay manager? this is what it's
called in the Turbo C++ v1.0 readme file, anyway, and I think TC++ 1.0 was
released around the same time as TC 3.0 (1990), perhaps a bit later.


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Yes, I believe the 49g does still use the Saturn processor.  I know nothing of
the AMD Elsa400.

Yes the 49g does look a little strange, but it still seems to retain
functionality.  I do not recall the 200lx having won any design awards for its
"beauty", but it functional, and very much so, and that is what we love about
it.  Does it really matter how it looks?

Richard


Alejandro Paz wrote:

> Hey a little question, this 49g (looks terrible ja!), witch type of
> processo have inside, an other time the saturn...., is nice but, a risk
> like would be nicer.... (with planar memory no with backed memory...), you
> know ?...
>
> the solution for the hp200 is the elsa400 proccesor from AMD, is really
> great, but who put it into a hp200 case and sell to us ?

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, zigzag wrote:

> Hi,
> Where can i get 80x25fnt.com and 80x24fnt.com
> other than compuserve?

Most likely answer is you can't.

Sadly, Dave Goodman was *very* strict about his programs not being
distributed on the Internet, and as a consequence they remained on
CompuServe. You could try asking him (his home page can be found with a
search engine) - since the programs are from the early nineties, perhaps
he will agree to them being released to the Internet today. I seriously
doubt they still have any commercial value.


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Winfried,

Didn't have time to do tests today, but I noticed a DOS printer utility disk in the Pentax accessories.  Never looked at it, maybe you should check it.

Anyway I just have a feeling that Buddy or something in SC is fiddling with the serial port or some TSR somewhere.  Should have some time tomorrow.   =Bob=

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I searched for Dave Goodman on yahoo, compuserve. I couldnt find his =
site or e-mail. I hope someone knows it =3D(

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The Thaddeus and Rundel DatenTechnik upgrades are the same parts.  Both
are authorized dealers for Times2Tech, so the hardware should perform
the same.  Since you live in Europe, I would guess Rundel would be
cheaper overall.  I haven't dealt with either party on upgrades (yet
;)), but everything I've seen about them has been positive.

HTH
Tom


Peter Maddern wrote:
>
> Does anyone please have any comments on the difference between the US
> Thaddeus Computing doublespeed/memory upgrade and the Rundel
> Datentechnik Germany TechRam/TechSpeed upgrade (latter same as
> Times2Tech ex USA?) for the 200LX in terms of:-
>
> * Speed
> * Effect on battery life
> * Complexity e.g need for additional drivers
> * Cost Mb for Mb
> * etc. etc?
>
> I live in Europe and am looking for the best - performing, most cost -
> effective option.
>
> Many thanks........
>
> Dr Peter Maddern
> Technical Manager
> North Wales, UK.
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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, zigzag wrote:

> I searched for Dave Goodman on yahoo, compuserve. I couldnt find his
> site or e-mail. I hope someone knows it =(

Well, the Dave K. Goodman I found has this home page:

http://users.aol.com/dkgoodman/

I *assume* it is the correct one, as this guy is a programmer and into
palmtops. But of course, there could be two DKG's both into palmtops and
programming...



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Hello all

This is exactly how I did it. Put the departure and arrival dates in as
two separate appointments.  I then put the dutation and other details
in the notes field so that I know how long the flight really is.  This
is only for use before the flight, as I usually set my watch to the
destination time when the flight starts.

I think it makes sense the way the 200LX does it, much better than the
Wince way.  I think the only better way is if we all go to beat time
where the time is the same time, no matter where on the gloge you are.
AINT GONNA HAPPEN.

The only beef I have with the calendaar as it is is that I have allarms
which go off to say when things will happen.  As it is now, An alarm
will go off while I am getting ready to go to Canberra Airport in
Australia, saying that I have 5 minutes to see someone in San
Francisco.  I will just ignore it of course.  Then the alarm will go
off about 16 hours later again.  This is really where the location
field on the appointment book comes in. I use that field to note
the location of the appointment, and ignore it if not in that time zone.


David Eggins



05h04m33s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:22:50 -0700 (PDT), Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> =
wrote:

> On 27-Jul-99, David Ness wrote:
> > if you are taking appointments (let's take an appointment that =
actually
> > `occurs' on a plane as a bizzare example) You have the begin time, =
the
> > end time and the duration. When time zones change, something `won't =
add
> > up'. That's the mapping problem.
>
> My kludge solution to this was to setup my flight departure time with =
the
> start and ending times equal and then the same for my arrival time.  =
This
> way I can set an alarm for the departure and when I change timezones in =
the
> air my relative times are still correct.  Setting the times like this =
gives
> a little tick mark on my timeline so that I don't try to schedule =
something
> at that time.
>
> -- Terry
>
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> Does it really matter how it looks?

Looks matter mostly in attracting new users.  Since the 200LX wasn't
able to attract enough new users to justify continued production I would
say its looks are/were important; at least to the long term user
community that now must come to terms with its new orphan status.

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Very neatly put. The LX just works intuitively, like our paper diaries. It
would be very confusing for appointments to move when you change the timezone.

Since the behaviour of WinCE machines is different from this, it is
obviously a case of an overzealous attempt to correct what was not broken
in the first place. That's why there is this very fine line between a 'bug'
and a 'feature'!



At 01:45 PM 28-07-1999 Wednesday -0700, A Meshar wrote:

>> If you don't change the timezone of the LX when you travel, it
>> will show the appointment at the correct time, but it will of
>> course itself display (and alarm at) the wrong time.   That's
>> a bit like a paper diary, which of course lets you the user
>> work  > out what the time really is.
>
>Actually I believe the LX will show the same time as you
>entered, no matter what timezone you change to.
>
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Hi, I wonder if there is a way  of sending ones mail from  a pc using
winbugs an outlost express to the hp 200 lx, then be able to read  and
answer it there and  lastly,  resendit t the pc forr further processing and
emailing. if so please answer to my mail to save bandwith
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Hi Peniel,


> > > Maybe what I found out is nothing new: I am using the
"Andrew"-
> > font. Normally you will have to start AppMgr before the font
> > activates. I found out that it will also activate after the Dos-
> > command "mode 80". Saves time if you want to boot to DOS directly.
>
> Interesting...  Did you mean SysMgr or AppMgr?  Since getting XF set up
> the way I want, I never open AppMgr, and my font (based on Andrew)
> shows up.  A few years ago, I had a setup that booted to DOS and opened
> HDM instead of AppMgr, and the fonts worked there, too.  Maybe anything
> that switches display mode will activate the new fonts.

I mean the thing you call with "200" <g>. What's exactly the
difference between SysMgr and AppMgr? I don't know about XF and
HDM, but if you boot to plain DOS (exactly: if you do not call any
application manager from autoexec.bat but go directly to the
command line) with andrew in the autoexec.bat, the original LX-
Font and not the andrew-font appears.

I still have the problem that in Lotus Metro always the (terrible)
original LX-font appears. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Cheers,
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> I use Zip with a batch file to back up my palmtop. It works great, but I
> had a similar problem of seemingly not being able to connect.
>
> In my case, the serial port on the palmtop was locked and so couldn't
> communicate. There are a number of places where the port could get locked,
> including Setup and Buddy.

Hi Don,

I think the port was unlocked when I tried it (I am using LxPro to
lock and unlock the port). But I will give it a last try...

Thank you,
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Do you think Dave Shier can do a custom cable 100 miles long?
(Sorry for that!)
Jez

------------------------------

Date:    Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:26:26 +0000
From:    Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>

The secret is to spend $30 and get a custom cable from Dave Shier.  It's
about 15-18 inches long with the special connectors on each end.  Works
like a charm.

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Date:    Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:26:28 +0000
From:    Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Printing from WORD on the Palmtop

Winfried,

Let's keep after it, there is a solution.  Ok, I have a Pentax and can try
the Lotus.  The friend is 100 miles away in Wash DC.

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Neil Tungate wrote:
> Aargh!  I just checked what my nice new toy, the Rex card, does: it follows
> the crappy model of WinCE and adjusts the appointment time. I sure hope I
> remember that if I decide to rely on it while travelling.
>
> Can anyone think *why* the designers did this?

Seems obvious: a potential for an upgrade. Software design is no longer
driven by customer needs, but by maximising the sales :-(

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A Meshar wrote:
> you fly the SST from Europe to the US you leave say at 1200
> noon. You will arrive at 10am local time. If you enter this in
> the palmtop it will politely assume you meant 8pm and enter
> that time, instead of assuming you are whacko and entered
> arrival prior to departure :-)

Hmm. Maybe it is time to try PIM/PE. It assumes you are whacko. ;-)

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Hi,

I downloaded Nethack 3.0 and realized that it needs ansi.sys to
run. Couldn't find it on the LX. So I found the following: a TSR-
Ansi-driver which can also be unloaded! It's called ansi.com and
can be found here:

http://www.theusefulsite.com/dos_tips.htm

Reinhard


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>if so please answer to my mail to save bandwith

He! Why that? Do you think you are the only one
who's interested in this question?

-goe-


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I tried to use cclxpop on an OmniGo 700 LX with the Nokia 2110. When I use an
normal external modem, everything works just fine. With the Nokia it dials and
returns an error on the phone (not telling me what's wrong). It's just the sort
of beep that tells me, that I was wrong. The ISP has one number for analog and
ISDN calls. In the past I tried to connect with WWW/LX and it worked fine. I
tried it with Nettamer and it worked too. I can't understand what's different in
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Hi all, just little old me with my obscure question of the week.

I have a database that I'd like to print out from time to time.  I am
outputting formatted SmartClips to an IR printer.

Is there a way to print, say, six records per page then start a new page?
Or am I stuck with either printing one record per page (a huge waste of
trees) or have the pagebreaks happen in the middle of my records?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Avi is right, I was thinking the LX behaved like to PC, which it does not, which is partly why we all get confused, especially if we try to synchronise as we move round different time zones ... appointments multiply as things like Intellilink don't see the appointments as being the same any more.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:05:09 +0100
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Steve Novosad (Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM) wrote:
>> works now), I've found that the CPACK applications utilise an
>> undocumented (at least in my documents) INT5F function 15h (21). Does
>> anybody know what this function is supposed to do? It's not mentioned
>> anywhere in the PAL library documentation.
>
>In the HPLX Archives maintained by Bill Childers,
>http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive/Portables/HP100LX/Pal.zip
>seems to be a program written with an old version of the
>PAL software. Function 15h has to do with changing the
>palette from CGA 4 color to EGA 16 color. See the README
>and COUG.ASM.

Thanks. This is a start. It's what I suspected, a multiplexed function
(ie. one with subfunctions). The above files document:

INT 5Fh - function 15h - subfuntion 0h - 3h

Functions 2h and 3h deal with the EGA pallette. Functions 0h and 1h deal
with 'locking' (whatever that is). It doesn't document any other
subfunctions but does allude to their existence. Does anybody know how
to contact 'Everett Kaser' (the author of the above package)? He seems
to know about these functions.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:49:41 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Hi QMan, Peniel and List,

no I'm not running EXKey. Meanwhile I also don't think that it has to do
with Software carousel, after the posting of Peniel yesterday I started my
HP without SC directly to Sysmanager and had still the same effect. Here
are My Config.sys, Autoexec.bat and HP.bat. I have a 200LX, speeddoubled
w.  8mB (Times2Tech).

-----------------
Config.sys:

Files=50
Buffers=5
Shell=D:\Dos\Command.Com /P D:\Dos
Stacks=9,128
Lastdrive=I
Device=A:\Bin\Tremm.exe
Device=c:\Spd31.exe

-----------------
Autoexec.bat:

@ECHO OFF
a:\bin\killmsg /M /C
PROMPT $p$g
PATH=C:\;D:\;C:\_DAT;A:\BIN;C:\SC;A:\TOOLS;C:\WWW;D:\DOS;D:\BIN;A:\PE;C:\ACEFAX
MODE CON RATE=24 DELAY=1
set temp=c:\temp\trash
set tmp=c:\temp\trash
chkdsk c: /f
chkdsk a: /f
c:\_dat\lxcic -l
C:
CD \SC
CAROUSEL

-------------------
HP.bat:

@echo off
a:\moreexm\moreexm
c:\_dat\andrew3
a:\bin\lxpromin
a:\bin\nofiddle
a:\bin\datetest 1999
200
-------------------

I would be really glad if someone has a resolution, because meanwhile I'm
really addicted to X-Finder <G>

Regards, Axel

*****************************************

>> On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

>> How can I prevent X-Finder automatically from running twice (ore more?)
>> This happens everytime when Phonebook, Memo etc are. running, during
>> switching back to X-Finder İALT+Filer-Shortcut in MoreEXM.Ini) Another
>> X-Finder-instance is opened then. This is eating memory and maybe causes
>> my HP to crash during switching between SC-Areas (I assume this in
>> conjunction with Software Carousel). I noticed that X-Finder was running
>> twice (or more) because there was another X-Finder running after closing
>> the first and also during checking with Taskmanager.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:43:03 -0800

> Hi Axel and List
> Are you running EXKey? If so, is it installed in your hp.bat or your
> autoexec.bat? Try switching it around.
> I had this same problem once and I think the aboved is what fixed it,
> but am not for sure.
> Regards, Qman...
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:25:57 -0800
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Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> wrote:

I tried to use cclxpop on an OmniGo 700 LX with the Nokia 2110. When I use an
normal external modem, everything works just fine. With the Nokia it dials and
returns an error on the phone (not telling me what's wrong). It's just the sort
of beep that tells me, that I was wrong. The ISP has one number for analog and
ISDN calls. In the past I tried to connect with WWW/LX and it worked fine. I
tried it with Nettamer and it worked too. I can't understand what's different
in cclxpop.

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Hi Stephan,

I had that same problem with my modem and ccLXPOP. Try running it with a full
int. modem string in your pppd.cfg if you know it.

example: AT&F2&C1&D2

cc:Mail is great, hope you get it working. (:-¨




Regards,

Qman...
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:26:13 -0500
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Found this in the newsgroups.



> I have a 200lx 1mb for sale, plus 20mb flash card.
>
> For more details see:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D138708866
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>


Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Here's another one.


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: baywolf@coolmail.net (baywolf)
Subject: FA: 200LX - $8.88, no reserve; 20 pictures
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:12:27 -0700

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D138801517

200LX 1 MB version
Fair condition - you can see for yourself.
Located in San Francisco / Oakland area
Asking for any amount greater than $8.88 by bidding on ebay
Prepaid + $5.50 for shipping/handling.
Money Order or Cashier's Check only

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D138801517

--- end of forwarded message ---


Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:49:47 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      MINIX again, good and bad news !!!

Hi,
  first, the good news: I got to decrease the file size of minix.mnx to 5mb
(My flashcard just have 10M) :D, now I'm running a Unix-like system on my
pocket (I love when it shutdown and says "The system will shutdown NOW",
it's my boy becaming a man :) Hamm..., hamm..., sorry about this).

Well, now the bad news: I got two problems.
1 - The first time I run it, after shutting down it, the HP begun to warn
about power down (before to boot minix the batteries were at 50%). Ok, I
verified on config that the power was really down, so I changed the
batteries, I tested (on TVRC) them again and, what a surprise, the batteries
were good ! I put them again on HP and this time the config went back to
show 50%. After various tests I arrived to a supposition: something on minix
isn't good (good supposition hein ?), to avoid this, you need or get out and
put again the batteries or to perform a powerfull and dangerous raw boot
(make your choice ;) !!!

2 - Forgetting the problem above (what matter is to run minix), I created a
user which default shell is ash, but I'm getting problems: some commands
like ls, vi exits with error 11. If I use sh it works fine ! Will it be
because I've deleted something that I should not ?!? (well, I deleted the
*.o files which were on /usr/lib and now I can't compile any more... ops, I
didn't say that... :))


 /H\j                                isaque.araujo@alcoa.com.br
(=U=)                                           55-11-3741-3510
 '-'                                Sistema Empresa / SIAL 2000

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:52:01 -0400
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Hi all:

I think that I have inadvertently found a way to synchronize the HP200LX PIM to
Lotus Notes!

It involves:
- Lotus Notes
- Microsoft Schedule+
- Puma IntelliSync
- Extended Systems Enterprise Harmony 98
(http://www.extendedsystems.com/prodinfo/specifications/enterprise.html)
- and the HP200LX.

Here goes...

> Make sure you have Notes, Schedule+, and IntelliSync properly installed and
working.

> When you install Harmony, you get a whole list of potential translators.
Although it was designed around syncronizing PDA's (WinCE and Palm) to a desktop
PIM, a unique feature also allows you to do PIM to PIM synchronization.  I
selected to install the Lotus Notes, Schedule+ and Outlook translators (Outlook
just in case).

> The next time you start Notes, you will get a Synchronize menu.  From there
choose 'Configure Menu'.  Deselect the 'Include Handheld Devices Only' and
select Schedule+ from the list.

>  I chose to Synchronize my Calendar and Todo, and to Export my Contacts from
Notes.  This is to maintain email addresses, which I fear would get chopped in a
direct sync.
> Set up a profile, excluding the 'Events' category, and choose Synchronize!

I have been doing this a short time, but it appears to work!  All of my entries
appear at the correct time and date, as do my todos.  And my contact information
has been preserved.

BTW, Enterprise Harmony doesn't have Schedule+ listed as a translator, but I had
Harmony '98 (from syncing up to a Nino before Cadenza was available for
Palm-sized PC).

Good luck,

Mike

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:05:43 +0200
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              Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU>
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     Hello All,

When a few months ago I contacted DesignSoft (who made
 Palmtop Circuit), I didn't know of their other programs.

Since I learned that they have a family of programs, all ba-
 sed on ArCAD, an architectural CAD program, which was first
 written in TP for PC/XT and DOS around 1992. They are all
 able to run on XT with CGA without co-processor (FPU) and
 can export to AutoCAD, for eg. later rendering.

The family has the following members:
 ArCAD normal and professional versions
 MyHouse, an ArCAD Lite version optimized for flat design
 3D Office, a version tailored for office interior design and layout
 3D Eyewitness, which documents crime and traffic crash scenes

The Arcad prof. version has the extra features, like:
 grahics mode designer, layout tool for paper drawings,
 editor for paper designs with 3D and section-cut, etc.
 It is said to be faster than ACAD R10 (at least if the
 hardware used is the same, eg. there is FPU installed.
 AutoCAD does not work w/o FPU or an emulator at least).
 There are lots of design bureaus using versions of ArCAD
 for real work (mostly Windows, but some still have DOS).

Question: should I ask around for more info, anyone
 interested? Hint: seems like they would sell anything
 DOS for 80USD/license. Palmtop versions (unlike desktop)
 would not require hardware security key, of course...

(I was given a 3D_Office_for_DOS manual, can scan parts).

                  Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> In the past I tried to connect with WWW/LX and it worked fine. I
> tried it with Nettamer and it worked too. I can't understand what's different in
> cclxpop.

I am more used to support questions for WWW/LX, but I almost assume it
is the same problem (and the same solution) as for WWW/LX <G>:

I assume WWW/LX and Nettamer were set up properly and CCLXPOP is not.
Check the configuration parameters (phone number, port, modem init,
server names, DNS name, etc.) Are they all the same that you use for
the other applications?

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:43:25 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:05:05 -0400 (EDT)

07h15m10s ago ...
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> I mean the thing you call with "200" <g>. What's exactly the
> difference between SysMgr and AppMgr?

Ahhh - that would be the System Manager.  AppMgr is the icon launcher
that comes up with the &... More blue-key.  8-)

> I don't know about XF and
> HDM, but if you boot to plain DOS (exactly: if you do not call any
> application manager from autoexec.bat but go directly to the
> command line) with andrew in the autoexec.bat, the original LX-
> Font and not the andrew-font appears.

Aha - then it probably is that a display mode change is required to
start the font loader.  All the things that seem to work do that.
SysMgr, HDM, the Mode command, and manual zoom would all change mode!
I'm not counting either XF or AppMgr, since they need SysMgr anyway.

> I still have the problem that in Lotus Metro always the (terrible)
> original LX-font appears. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Sorry, I don't.  Hope someone else here does.

Later

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:27:27 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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I am hoping to go to London (England not Ontario) in a couple of weks for a
vacation with my family.

I have used my HP100LX in the past in Israel, with Compuserve as my ISP and
WWW/LX and Post/LX as the software. It worked great but found that I needed
to make some changes to the log in script to make the connections possible.

I s there anything special I need to know about connecting - either
scripting or hardware issues?

TIA

Alan

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:48:48 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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There's nothing special about London...you can use Compuserve, the access number for local call rates is 0845 0801000 (though beware of what rates any hotel may charge).  Local calls are *not* free in the UK.   Avi was over so I am sure he knows exactly how to use WWW/LX in London <G>.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:45:06 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, I Dean wrote:

> subfunctions but does allude to their existence. Does anybody know how
> to contact 'Everett Kaser' (the author of the above package)? He seems
> to know about these functions.

Everett Kaser's home page can be found at www.kaser.com.


Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:31:28 -0400
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Avi and Andreas,

> I should not release code that is not sufficiently tested!

>> Problem is that it makes him look too-too much like
>> MicroShaft, his favorite software company. :-(

It's good to know that Andreas is a human being making errors and not
just a LX/ROBOT (g).

BTW : errors trigger evolution - look at what nature accomplished in
the last billion of years because 8-)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:55:31 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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> I downloaded Nethack 3.0 and realized that it needs ansi.sys to
> run. Couldn't find it on the LX. So I found the following: a TSR-
> Ansi-driver which can also be unloaded! It's called ansi.com and
> can be found here:
>
> http://www.theusefulsite.com/dos_tips.htm

Should have looked there before, it's already on super.


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1999-07-28-20:04:27 Andreas Garzotto:
> The only problem I see is that you seem to prefer the *wrong* model. <G>

On re-reading my note, I can't see how you can tell; I thought I was plenty
subtle:-).

Seriously, though, I think the schism we have here suggests something potent
for application designers: their best bet would be to be so intimiately aware
of this issue that they not only document in very clear detail just how their
app thinks, but better still make it possible for it to work either way --- it
really looks like people aren't going to change their way of thinking on this
topic.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:18:30 +0000
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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.990728221058.12230A-100000@ask.diku.dk>; from
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1999-07-28-21:29:01 Laust Brock-Nannestad:
> Hmm. everything I've read about Minix suggests that it doesn't support
> swapping.

You're right --- I just hit www.minix.org and found no mention of swapping.
That's what I get for trusting my memory.

I'd still maintain that it supports virtual memory; I'm quite sure I remember
that running programs can be relocated by the scheduler.

> Also, one of the excersises in Tanenbaum's book (in Chapter four) is to
> modify Minix to do swapping. A bit pointless if the OS already supports
> it, don't you think?

Ayup. Maybe that's what I was remembering.

> Whether program relocation (and a virtual, if limited, address space
> through the use of segments) is enough to call it virtual memory is open
> for discussion.

I am pretty sure I heard this fought over back when Minix was young, and the
academics prevailed, defending a strict definition of virtual memory that
Minix meets, although many people equated virtual memory with demand paging
and disagreed.

> BTW. there's no need to send the reply to my message to *both* the list
> and my e-mail account. Either way I will read it.

Sorry for bothering you with the double-tap. Most folks seem to prefer it,
since it makes it likely that the person I'm replying to will get first shot
at a followup. If the double message receipt seriously bothers you, I'd
recommend mentioning something about it in your .sig. I don't have an
exception list, and neither does my MUA, so I probably won't remember not to
Cc you next time.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:25:05 +0000
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Comments: To: Mike Little <Mike@AMPERSOFT.CO.UK>
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1999-07-28-22:40:12 Mike Little:
> 1999-07-28-17:28 Bennett Todd:
> >İ...¨ on 8086 machines it's excruciating to even try and do programs bigger
> >than 64KB code, since the segment registers needed to reach outside one
> >16-big segment are used by the OS for relocating processes.
>
> I disagree about it being excruciating. İ...¨ I used to be part of a
> development team working on a huge DOS app that used overlays and sub
> programs but still demanded large amounts of memory (we had to unload the
> Netware drivers to print). We then switched to Zoom -- so much easier, no
> more hand crafting overlay map files, it all fitted in one exe AND it ran
> FASTER on a 512K XT than the old version ran on a 16MHz 386 using 640K!

Sure, you can play _all_ kinds of clever games with manually juggling segment
registers, and so can your compiler --- but that only works if the OS doesn't
own the segment registers. And if the OS doesn't own the segment registers on
an 8086, then it cannot relocate code, and cannot know anything useful about
memory allocation, and so cannot offer robust multitasking. In other words,
your "OS" is a function library, and a single process that chains back to a
system command interpreter to "exit". In a word, DOS. Safe and robust
multitasking (i.e. not "cooperative" multi-tasking) requires an MMU owned and
operated by the OS. 8086 segment registers barely suffice, but only for
64K+64K compiled by a compiler that denies user code access to the segment
registers.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:18:30 +0000, Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET> =
wrote:

> Sorry for bothering you with the double-tap. Most folks seem to prefer =
it,
> since it makes it likely that the person I'm replying to will get first =
shot
> at a followup. If the double message receipt seriously bothers you, I'd
> recommend mentioning something about it in your .sig. I don't have an
> exception list, and neither does my MUA, so I probably won't remember =
not to
> Cc you next time.

Depending on the mail client which is used, the list automatically is =
sent
to both addresses, as is the case with this message <g>.

Jeff

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Peter,

They are the same upgrade.  Tom Rundel does them for Europe and Thaddeus does them for the US market.     =Bob=

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Liam,

I checked out the web page and remember $129 or so.  Using the palmtop through the serial port you don't get much more the 14.4 anyway.  Did it say that the battery pack was extra?  The pocket Zoom 14.4 still is tops with me.      =Bob=

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You know this annoying situation: You have rechargeables in
the palmtop. You have to cold boot for some reason. The
Palmtop setup reverts to Alkalines.

The logic is sound: To make sure you do not try to charge up
your Alkalines, or worse, your Lithiums. It is really not a
healthy thing to do to them and the palmtop.

But let us assume that you _know_ what you are doing and that
you _know_ what batteries you have in the machine. And that
they are rechargeables. The coldboot forgets it and you have
to go to Setup, Battery, and change the setting. If you use
ABC/LX, you can start ABC.EXE and it will prompt you.

But take a look at a copyrighted freeware program called ABCUTIL.EXE
(available at ftp://www.dasoft.com/pub/ABC/abcutil.zip). I
have a line in my AUTOEXEC.BAT like this:

  ABCUTIL REC

which sets the battery type to rechargeable. "ABCUTIL ALK"
will make the type Alkaline.

If you just run the program with no parameters you get the
list of functions what it can do.

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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@scott.net>
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1999-07-29-17:22:10 Jeff Johns:
> Depending on the mail client which is used, the list automatically is sent
> to both addresses, İ...¨

I use mutt; it offers two commands that I know of, and may have some options
to customize how they work (I haven't investigated). "r" to reply will
generally reply to just the author of a message, while "g" for group reply
will usually reply to the author and Cc the list it was on, and any other
addresses; I usually delete some of the addressees out of a group reply.

Some mailing lists are set up to set a "Reply-To: " header to point back to
the list; this tends to make it hard to reply to an individual poster, and is
regarded as a really bad idea all around.

Some folks are really rabid about not wanting to get an individual copy of a
note that's also posted. I see little notes in peoples' .sigs asking not to be
copied on notes sent to the list. It's beginning to seem like we need some
brand new functionality, to let the sender of a message announce their
preferences on the topic of doubled replies, in a format that can be
automatically honored by MUAs. If we were to start pushing really hard right
now, and donate code to implement the new functionality to all the major MUAs
within the next month or two, along with an RFC draft proposing the the new
functionality, it might be generally available enough to be useful by say
2010.

Oh well.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:39:49 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Tip re battery type, booting
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199907291714.KAA29691@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Thu, Jul 29,
              1999 at 10:14:08AM -0700
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1999-07-29-17:14:08 A Meshar:
> You know this annoying situation: You have rechargeables in the palmtop. You
> have to cold boot for some reason. The Palmtop setup reverts to Alkalines.
>
> The logic is sound: To make sure you do not try to charge up your Alkalines,
> or worse, your Lithiums. İ...¨

You're no fun! I think it would be really entertaining to watch Lithiums
getting recharged. In someone else's computer of course. Preferably in another
room. Far away. :-)

> But take a look at a copyrighted freeware program called ABCUTIL.EXE
> (available at ftp://www.dasoft.com/pub/ABC/abcutil.zip). I have a line in my
> AUTOEXEC.BAT like this:
>
>   ABCUTIL REC
>
> which sets the battery type to rechargeable.

Cool! Some subset of that functionality is also available from batset, which I
get from S.U.P.E.R.İ1¨. Out of curiosity, what does abcutil have to recommend
it over batset?

-Bennett

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zigzag <zigzag@ACCESSV.COM> wrote:

I know about tnlx, for 100lx and 200lx, but what about 95lx?
are we forgetting the mother of hp handhelp dos PC's? I really like my 95
lx, and im sure  im not the only one using one. Could the maker of tblx, or
someone else PLEASE write some sort of a taskbar/fileman for 95lx? it doesnt
have to show tasks or anything, just for the interface... plz. Ive looked
everywhere for something like it, but no luck. I even tried running tblx,
heh, also no luck. I wish someone would just make one. I cant, because i
dont know how to program the lx, and barely know ANY C.

I hope someone does it, or points to a similar app.


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Hi ZigZag & List,

Have you tried Menu95?
There was one more but the name escapes me at the time.


HTH




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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:40:52 EDT
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How much for the 200LX?

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Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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1999-07-29-17:39:49 Bennett Todd:
> Out of curiosity, what does abcutil have to recommend it over batset?

I just read the docs, and can at least start to answer that.

Looks like abcutil has it over batset in two interesting ways. First, as a
companion to ABC/LX, it provides control over the battery status display; and
second, as it's specifically designed for dynamic config changes by running
out of appt book alarm events, it has the interesting ability to report
battery status in a format suitable for appending to a logfile, producing
functionality of battlog (also from S.U.P.E.R.) without the memory expenditure
for a TSR.

And as best I can tell without being able to run it to see its usage message,
it looks like abcutil doesn't reproduce the TSR functionality of batset
(again, presumably because it's intended as a companion to ABC/LX); it doesn't
give you the ability to control how long the LX will stay on the high-current
charge cycle, before dropping back to trickle.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:22:03 -0400
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I know there are a few programmers around this list, so you might want to
know that Borland has released some of their early programming tools for
free. They have the following available:

Turbo Pascal v1.0, v3.02, and v5.5
Turbo C v1.0, v1.5, and v2.01

You can find them at:
 http://community.borland.com/museum/

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"Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR> wrote:

Hi,
  first, the good news: I got to decrease the file size of minix.mnx to 5mb
(My flashcard just have 10M) :D, now I'm running a Unix-like system on my
pocket (I love when it shutdown and says "The system will shutdown NOW",
it's my boy becaming a man :) Hamm..., hamm..., sorry about this).


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Hey! I'd like to have those problems too. (:-¨

How did you get in down to 5MB?

Installed it on a larger drive maybe then did a hack job etc.)




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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:36:23 +0200
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Tamas,

> Question: should I ask around for more info, anyone
>  interested? Hint: seems like they would sell anything
>  DOS for 80USD/license. Palmtop versions (unlike desktop)
>  would not require hardware security key, of course...

I would be interested.
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Subject:      Re: Pocket Modems - News
Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>

This may be a "dumb" question, but how fast will our LXs transfer data
through their serial port, using this modem .... I can *see* a high
'theoretical' limit in the settings, but will it really work that fast?

I'd hate to buy something that was 'absorbing' data at 56.whatever kbs and
then pass it through a choke point (cable, etc.) that only passed 9.6 kbs...

--tim

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From: Longden Loo İmailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨
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The website's press release page mentions an MSRP of $129 and launch date of
Aug
2.

See: http://ppc.trogoncomputer.com/news/pressrelease/unimicro.html

- Longden





"Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU> on 07/28/99 04:46:17 PM

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Subject:  Pocket Modems - News




Chech out the UniMicro Modem

@  www.trogoncomputer.com

found it while trawling for some information, 56k
and runs on 2 x AA batteries, very small & light

Can someone find out what they sell for in the US

Regards to all.........Liam
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I would like to hook up my computers in a network. I need some advice
on what cards I need and what software to run..

I have a desktop Pc, it is a Pentium Celeron 300a@450, with free pci card
place and 64 mb ram. This runs Win 98. It has a 10 gb disc..

I have another desktop pc, it is a Pentium 90 with free pci card
places. I have not set this up yet, but it will have win 98 or win 95
and 48 mb ram. and a 540 mb disc

I also have a Siemens Nixdorf laptop with 2 pcmcia slots, which runs
Win95.

And of course my Hp 200lx. It is a 1 mb, but I will have it upgraded
soon to either 8 or 32 mb ds. It now has a 24 cf w/adapter in the
slot..

I have a a pcmcia Etherlink III Lan+33.60 modem which "belongs" to the
laptop. It says "For 10BASE-T and coax"..

I want to hook all these computers to each other. I guess I have to
wait to hook up the Hp 200 until I get it upgraded. Or can I hook it up
to the server with the seriell cable to netaccess/discaccess?

I want to be able to mirror discs so I can access all drives from
whatever machine I am using.

The 300a desktop has a external modem connected and is my primary
machine. I would like to use this as a server.

When I go online with the server, I want to be able to give the Pentium
90 and my Hp200lx net access at the same time. So that I can surf the
web with my 300a, download mail/news with my Hp200 lx and download some
files to the Pentium 90 all at the same time (to save online time and
hook up fee)

I guess I have to have 2*pci network cards for my 2 desktop pc's.

1*pcmcia for the Hp200(maybe I can use the seriell cable?).

Speed is not that importent because I will only use it for nightly
backup and download of email/news when online..

And 1* pcmcia card for the laptop, or can I use the card I already
got? And some free/cheap software

Thanks in advance for any help bringing my home network online..

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
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I found a source of cheap AC adapters for the LX today. I was at the =
local
Salvation Army Thrift Store and found that they had a whole wall of =
various
sized AC adapters from various electronic gadgets that people donate to
them. I found a 12 volt 700mAh adapter and they only charged me $0.99USD =
for
it <g>. It may not be quite as small as the HP unit but for the price it
can't be beat.

Jeff

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Thanks for the public service message Avi <g>.

Likewise for those of you who already have LXSTAT from the SUPER site can just
add the following to your autoexec.bat:

     LXSTAT N

which also sets the battery type to rechargeable.

I actually have

     LXSTAT N D C 22

which also sets the Display Contrast to a normal setting (22) because sometimes
the boot changes the contrast on me.

- Longden





A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> on 07/29/99 10:14:08 AM

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But take a look at a copyrighted freeware program called ABCUTIL.EXE
(available at ftp://www.dasoft.com/pub/ABC/abcutil.zip). I
have a line in my AUTOEXEC.BAT like this:

  ABCUTIL REC

which sets the battery type to rechargeable. "ABCUTIL ALK"
will make the type Alkaline.

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Bob,

eventually after many hours of trying - cup of tea beside me
to remain patient - I can print from PE and WORD to the Pocket
Jet (or for that matter, to other printers) !

By pure accident I found and then consistently reproduced that
I can print from PE and WORD only when printing from MEMO
first.

I use SC with MEMO in Work Area 1, PE in Work Area 10, and
WORD in Work Area 6. I turns out that after a reboot, going
directly into the PE or WORD area, nothing moves. The printer
does not even blink.  After Reboot, i cannot print with PE or
WORD if MEMO has not run once. Also, all three programs have
to be loaded into their work areas with their text files before
MEMO is run. When I run MEMO first and then load PE and/or
WORD and their text files, they will not print.

My question to the GURUS on the list: WHAT DOES MEMO DO to
sweep the path clean for the other two, and how could one avoid
this cumbersome procedure ?

Once printing I realized that the questions of Null Modem,
Printer drivers, MODE command (rerouting), Buddy interference
(I do not use it at the moment)  etc. are immaterial to the
problem of getting the printers to work. Only afterwards
these questions have their place.

Once printing with the 3 programs, drivers have been tried out
with the following results:

MEMO: Use Internal Printer drivers
      set to Proprinter ONLY, otherwise no
      Umlauts are printed.
      Set Printer Parameters via MEMO/FILE/PRINT/SETUP

PE:   Use Internal Printer drivers
      All 3 drivers can be used if no parameters are set.
      Printer Parameters can be set via the POCKETJT.EXE
      parameter program (shell to DOS). Then ONLY the internal
      HPLaserJet driver can be used.
      Also, to make POCKETJT.EXE work, the parallel port has
      to be rerouted to Com1 (D:\DOS\MODE LPT1=3DCOM1), otherwise
      POCKETJT.EXE will not run.

Still unvresolved: how to print to the Readeye of the HP 6MP

WORD: Use WORD drivers HP3.PRD or TTY.PRD ONLY. With drivers
      Diconix.prd, Epsonfx.prd and IBMPRO.PRD the printer
      simply stops.
      Set Printer Parameters via WORD Menu ALT+Format





> Winfried,

> Didn't have time to do tests today, but I noticed a DOS
printer utility disk in the Pentax accessories. Never looked
at it, maybe you should check it.

Anyway I just have a feeling that Buddy or something in SC is
fiddling with the serial port or some TSR somewhere.  Should
have some time tomorrow.

PS  You seem to be sending 2 copies of each message.

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Bob and Bruce,

eventually after many hours of trying - cup of tea beside me
to remain patient - I can print from PE and WORD to the Pocket
Jet (or for that matter, to other printers such as the Diconix
180 si) !

By pure accident I found and then consistently reproduced that
I can print from PE and WORD only when printing from MEMO
first.

I use SC with MEMO in Work Area 1, PE in Work Area 10, and
WORD in Work Area 6. I turns out that after a reboot, going
directly into the PE or WORD area, nothing moves. The printer
does not even blink.  After Reboot, i cannot print with PE or
WORD if MEMO has not run once. Also, all three programs have
to be loaded into their work areas with their text files before
MEMO is run. When I run MEMO first and then load PE and/or
WORD and their text files, they will not print.

My question to the GURUS on the list (such as Andreas, Avi,
Stefan, David, Ed, to mention just a few):

WHAT DOES MEMO DO to sweep the path clean for the other two,
and how could one avoid this cumbersome procedure ?

Once printing I realized that the questions of Null Modem,
Printer drivers, MODE command (rerouting), Buddy interference
(I do not use it at the moment)  etc. are immaterial to the
problem of getting the printers to work. Only afterwards
these questions have their place.

Once printing with the 3 programs, I have tried out drivers
with the following results:

MEMO: Use Internal Printer drivers
      set to Proprinter ONLY, otherwise no
      Umlauts are printed.
      Set Printer Parameters via MEMO/FILE/PRINT/SETUP

PE:   Use Internal Printer drivers
      All 3 drivers can be used if no parameters are set.
      Printer Parameters can be set via the POCKETJT.EXE
      parameter program (shell to DOS). Then ONLY the internal
      HPLaserJet driver can be used.
      Also, to make POCKETJT.EXE work, the parallel port has
      to be rerouted to Com1 (D:\DOS\MODE LPT1=3DCOM1), otherwise
      POCKETJT.EXE will not run.

WORD: Use WORD drivers HP3.PRD or TTY.PRD ONLY. With drivers
      DICONIX.prd, EPSONFX.prd and IBMPRO.PRD the printer
      simply stops.
      Set Printer Parameters via WORD Menu ALT+Format

Still unresolved:
how to print to the HP 6MP via cable (not yet tried)
how to print to the Readeye of the HP 6MP.

Thanks for your encouragement. Looking forward to an
explanation of this strange problem.

Regards
Winfried

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Turbo C v1.0, v1.5, and v2.01

Okay , help me with my memory here.  Which version runs on the palmtop?  Will
the v2.01 work?

-Chris Lott

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Folks,

Anyone used Q&A 4.0 for dos?  will it work on the palmtop?
Run well?

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I've updated the Icon Server http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons

The changes are:
- Bugfix: was not sorting icons alphabetically in "New additions"
- Add description of what is expected in each of the fields in the
  "Upload" page
- The "New additions" now shows the icons changed in the last 30 days,
  instead of 15.

Thanks for the list, for the comments and bug report.

Paulo

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Hi folks,

I want to use that tool but have some difficulties how the basics works.\
Question:  Do I need to run it only on the LX or on DOS level within the same
directory?
 thnks for help  and understanding of such basic question
Michael

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              "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
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I can only say that I have used v1.0.  It sort of works; long int
has some problems and has fix up overflow when linking big
program.

Alfred


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> Turbo C v1.0, v1.5, and v2.01

Okay , help me with my memory here.  Which version runs on the palmtop?  Will
the v2.01 work?

-Chris Lott

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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> > Turbo C v1.0, v1.5, and v2.01
>
> Okay , help me with my memory here.  Which version runs on the palmtop?  Will
> the v2.01 work?

I'd say yes. I've used the plain v2.0 on my LX, and I guess 2.01 is just a
bug-fix update.

Pretty nice of Borland/Inprise, I've always wanted to see the original
version of Turbo Pascal.


Cheers,

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Yes, Q&A 4.0 will work just fine on the 200LX. If your database gets too
large it will run a little slow, just as you would expect on a desktop with
limited processing power.

I use Q&A 5.0 on my 200LX-32mb-DoubleSpeed and it runs great until I try to
work with a database I have with more than 45,000 records.

Good to see there are some Q&A users out there. There are groups you may
wish to contact:

http://www.qaug.com/  The National Q&A Users Group

http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=qaandfmp  A Q&A Free Forum

http://www.quickanswer.com/ The Quick Answer - an excellent newsletter about
Q&A

http://www.johntdow.com/  The site of the wolds foremost Q&A Utility
designer

The are some local user groups, depending on you location.

Good Luck!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:40:37 +0100, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

>> Can anyone think *why* the designers did this?
>
>Seems obvious: a potential for an upgrade. Software design is no longer
>driven by customer needs, but by maximising the sales :-(

I just discovered a paragraph in the Rex manual which explains the
reasoning behind it. It allows you to easily know when to phone home to
catch the folks there at a particular time. I tend to rely on my brain to
work out that when I'm in DC it's 5 hours behind home in the UK - hardly =
a
feat of advanced mathematics :)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.org.uk>
Team 200LX UK

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Has anyone had this problem and a solution???
My screen will (without any warning) go to solid black.  If I leave it on,
after much flickering, the screen will restore.This may take 30 seconds or
30 minutes.  Have not clue as why this is happening.  any advice or help
appreciated.
Ron

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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Multi-timezone appointments

>You might try my approach, which is to NEVER change my watch or LX time.
>Thus, when I am in California a meeting which is set for 0800 local
time,
>takes place at 1100 on my watch -- which is the time that I set in my
>Appointment Book.  I make all the adjustments mentally.  This also helps
with
>Jet Lag when I get home.
>
>Lynn M. Cavendish

I believe that I understand both points of view on this matter, and that
is just what they are... different points of view about different points
of view. ;-)

What we are debating is which point of view (time zone) is best to use,
but we all also agree that using only one point of view also poses
problems because it doesn't offer a logical relationship between the two
points of view.

Why not combine both points of view in a way that makes perfect logical
sense and therefore offer a compromise that works well for everyone?

Lynn's method seems to make the most sense to me, but it still has it's
drawbacks. Converting appointments into my regular time zone, placing
them in those time slots and not changing the time on my Palmtop while
traveling makes the most sense to me, but to satisfy both points of view
in this debate, I propose a slight modification in the way the
appointment is annotated, and changing the time on only the personal
watch.

I propose making the appointment name start with the destination's time
and time zone designation. For example, in my 3:30PM home time zone slot
I would put:

12:30pm EST Marketing Meeting

That way, by leaving my palmtop's time setting unchanged while traveling,
my palmtop would continue to faithfully alarm at the correct moment. But
more importantly to some people, the day view would also reflect the
local time of the appointment, without causing any undue confusion.

This way of annotating appointments would also retain the logical
progression of time in the view, thus preventing the user from blindly
over booking appointments.

Of course, entering departure and arrival times as separate appointments
makes the most sense for annotating flight schedules.

The only real hassle that is left in doing it in this way is still very
real. The hassle would be in manually converting appointment times for
remote places into the palmtop's home time zone, as they are being
planned.

One possible (although weak) solution would be to find and use a simple
pop-up TSR that could quickly and easily convert times from one time zone
to another. The user could use the pop-up time zone converter to
translate the remote times into the correct home time slots.

However, IMHO, the best solution would be if the PIM could offer a simple
user prompted temporary alternate time zone VIEW of it's already
scheduled appointments by simply sliding the hour scale over on the
screen.  New appointments for alternate time zones could then be entered
into the screen in the more natural way, showing the natural progression
of time in that alternate time zone, and eliminating the need for manual
time zone conversions.

In other words, entries could be annotated in the same way as explained
above, but while viewing that day's schedule, the user could simply
change the view to the more relevant time zone view.

That would offer the instant (however temporary) point-of-view change
needed to actually think and plan in native terms of that alternate time
zone. Upon leaving that screen, that application could instantly revert
back to it's default home time zone view by simply snapping the hour
scale back to it's original position ... never actually changing the
original appointment data.

An added bonus in this would be that while a user is actually in a
different time zone, if desired, a temporary view in the terms of that
time zone would be quick and easy to produce... and again, that temporary
alternate point of view would never actually change any pre-existing
records in the database, at all, and all alarms would continue to
function properly. :-)

How does that sound as a suggested new feature for PIM/PE? :-) Does
anyone else have other thoughts on this possible compromise for the
"point of view" debate?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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I am new to TaskBar, and would like to use it. However, since the docs are not in English I have no idea how to configure it. Can anyone who has TaskBar working or has English documentation please help me out?

You can reply by direct mail to the address below, but there might be others on the list who would appreciate the information as well.

TIA

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:35:25 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Here is my limited observation of the Word 5.5 printing problem. There may be
related DOS printing problems addressed on the list in past months.

I have tried serial printing with DOS programs such as the Norton Editor 1.5
and Wordstar 4.0. Recently for convenience, I either print from Memo to an
HP6P IR or transfer the files to a desktop. I also use Laplink 3.0 and
Transfile often to transfer files.

Observations:

It seems like I can only get the serial port to successfully work if I run
Filer and shell out to DOS (filer still running). Then LL3 works successfully.
I recall that is what I had to do to print serially.

If in pure DOS (not shelled out to DOS), I can't seem to get the serial port
to respond. I suspect the LX hangs on to the UART interrupt or ties up the
port until I shell out of Filer. It seems that the App Mgr needs to be running
since I can gain control of the serial port when I print from Filer or shell
to DOS.

To try:
Tweak your memory to make this work. Run Filer, shell to DOS, run Word 5.5 and
try printing.

I have Word 5.5 but have never loaded it on the LX. If I get time, I could try
to do all this.

Hope this might be a clue.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:12:44 EDT
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In a message dated 7/26/99 1:05:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> Quattro Pro
>  4.0/DOS (Netware enabled...whatever that means) for $10 each.
>
>  Anyone know if this version is anything special?

The thing about Quattro 4 was that it still had Lotus-compatible macro
language, which Borland had to take out of the first release of v5 because of
Lotus' famous lawsuit against them.  (They put the language back into a later
release.)  Also, there were some neat financial and date calculation formula
add-ins for this version that were sold separately.  However, be careful.  As
best I can recall, there was at least one fix issued for this release.  Also
check around on whether it is Y2K compliant.  I don't believe this will run
on the palmtop, although I may be wrong.  But if you can get it with a
complete set of manuals, 10 bucks is pretty cheap.

-roger-dddddddd

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:56:54 -0400
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"David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

> Can someone point me to the best price
> on a Accton EN2216-1 10BaseT adapter?

I bought mine at Hardware Street (www.hardwarestreet.com)
which offered a good price, had the NIC in stock and had
reasonable shipping charges.  I think it was $87 delivered.


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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:53:20 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Sorry, but it's a `pug ugly' solution in my opinion. Not, you
understand, that it should be anyone else's view, but it _surely_ is
mine.

Actually, I have hardly ever had a problem. I have read hundreds,
probably thousands, of airline schedules. They say my plane is departing
LAX on 8/15 at 10:30. They say it is departing CDG on 9/3 at 09:25. They
say it is departing NRT on 9/12 at 13:54. In any of these cases. I don't
have any idea, as I read the schedule, of the time zone of any of these
times. I just know that when I am there to get on the plane, I will have
my watch set correctly. I want to be able to record my departure time
and not think further about it.

Any solution that complicates this important simplicity fails, IMO, to
deliver anything useful. As it is, the 200 delivers on this pretty well.

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> >You might try my approach, which is to NEVER change my watch or LX time.
> >Thus, when I am in California a meeting which is set for 0800 local
> time,
> >takes place at 1100 on my watch -- which is the time that I set in my
> >Appointment Book.  I make all the adjustments mentally.  This also helps
> with
> >Jet Lag when I get home.
> >
> >Lynn M. Cavendish
>
> I believe that I understand both points of view on this matter, and that
> is just what they are... different points of view about different points
> of view. ;-)
>
> What we are debating is which point of view (time zone) is best to use,
> but we all also agree that using only one point of view also poses
> problems because it doesn't offer a logical relationship between the two
> points of view.
>
> Why not combine both points of view in a way that makes perfect logical
> sense and therefore offer a compromise that works well for everyone?
>
> Lynn's method seems to make the most sense to me, but it still has it's
> drawbacks. Converting appointments into my regular time zone, placing
> them in those time slots and not changing the time on my Palmtop while
> traveling makes the most sense to me, but to satisfy both points of view
> in this debate, I propose a slight modification in the way the
> appointment is annotated, and changing the time on only the personal
> watch.
>
> I propose making the appointment name start with the destination's time
> and time zone designation. For example, in my 3:30PM home time zone slot
> I would put:
>
> 12:30pm EST Marketing Meeting
>
> That way, by leaving my palmtop's time setting unchanged while traveling,
> my palmtop would continue to faithfully alarm at the correct moment. But
> more importantly to some people, the day view would also reflect the
> local time of the appointment, without causing any undue confusion.
>
> This way of annotating appointments would also retain the logical
> progression of time in the view, thus preventing the user from blindly
> over booking appointments.
>
> Of course, entering departure and arrival times as separate appointments
> makes the most sense for annotating flight schedules.
>
> The only real hassle that is left in doing it in this way is still very
> real. The hassle would be in manually converting appointment times for
> remote places into the palmtop's home time zone, as they are being
> planned.
>
> One possible (although weak) solution would be to find and use a simple
> pop-up TSR that could quickly and easily convert times from one time zone
> to another. The user could use the pop-up time zone converter to
> translate the remote times into the correct home time slots.
>
> However, IMHO, the best solution would be if the PIM could offer a simple
> user prompted temporary alternate time zone VIEW of it's already
> scheduled appointments by simply sliding the hour scale over on the
> screen.  New appointments for alternate time zones could then be entered
> into the screen in the more natural way, showing the natural progression
> of time in that alternate time zone, and eliminating the need for manual
> time zone conversions.
>
> In other words, entries could be annotated in the same way as explained
> above, but while viewing that day's schedule, the user could simply
> change the view to the more relevant time zone view.
>
> That would offer the instant (however temporary) point-of-view change
> needed to actually think and plan in native terms of that alternate time
> zone. Upon leaving that screen, that application could instantly revert
> back to it's default home time zone view by simply snapping the hour
> scale back to it's original position ... never actually changing the
> original appointment data.
>
> An added bonus in this would be that while a user is actually in a
> different time zone, if desired, a temporary view in the terms of that
> time zone would be quick and easy to produce... and again, that temporary
> alternate point of view would never actually change any pre-existing
> records in the database, at all, and all alarms would continue to
> function properly. :-)
>
> How does that sound as a suggested new feature for PIM/PE? :-) Does
> anyone else have other thoughts on this possible compromise for the
> "point of view" debate?
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:49:40 -0700
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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> I bought mine at Hardware Street (www.hardwarestreet.com) which
> offered a good price, had the NIC in stock and had reasonable shipping
> charges.  I think it was $87 delivered.

I think they're a lot cheaper now... last time I checked the price was
around $50, but it may have changed since then.

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From: wcm@ist.uwaterloo.ca (Walter C. McCutchan 01/34/24 65:65 am
To:

This seems the sort of thing I should be able to do, but a look at the
manual, and the on-line help both on the HP and the HP "emulator"
supplied with the connectivity pack seem to turn up nothing...

The problem is this.  I want to define a simple database on the HP
(let's say two fields; item, price).  I have a list of data; I want to
import it into my HP database.  How do I do it?  (if it matters, the
data for import can be comma delimited or columnar.)

I seem to be able to figure out how to bring in a comma-delimited file
into the appt or the phone database -- but how do I do it for a
"custom" database?

Thoughts/help/feedback greatly appreciated.

...thanks
...walter
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:40:30 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Bennett Todd wrote:
> On re-reading my note, I can't see how you can tell; I thought I was plenty
> subtle:-).

It was, but not subtle enough :-)

> really looks like people aren't going to change their way of thinking on this
> topic.

Seems so! Also it is interesting there are two so clearly distinct groups.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:00:42 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Bennett Todd wrote:

>Those of us who favour an absolute time model are forced to take into =
account
>the other person's timezone whenever we do anything that straddles =
timezones,
>one way or another

I think what you're saying is that you, as an absolute-time person,
need to be aware of the timezone difference when scheduling a meeting
with a person in a distant city, whether you're using an LX machine or
a CE machine.

Suppose you're in New York and you're setting up an appointment to be
held in San Francisco. If you think in New York time and you're
entering the appt in the 200LX, then you'll think 1400 NY time, and
have to adjust for the three hour difference and enter it as 1100.

But if you have CE, when you talk to the person in SF, you'll set it
up with him for 1100, and have to adjust three hours to get to your
mental image of absolute time, and enter it as 1400. So either way,
you will have to correctly adjust for the time zone difference.

=46or the rest of us, we don't need to know the time difference. When we
set up the 1100 meeting, that's what we enter into the 200LX. Plane
flight at 4pm? Easy. But if we were using WinCE, that's when trouble
would start.

So for those of you (and I think it's a small minority) who think in
absolute time, you will need to be aware of time zone differences in
either case. For everyone else, there is clearly a better way to do
it, and it ain't the CE way.

>It's not clearly obvious to me that I'm right and you are wrong. Nor =
that you
>are right and I am wrong.

Your way to view time is not wrong or right, just different. However,
it seem to me that there's clearly a right and a wrong way to design
how the palmtop handles time zone changes.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:12:53 GMT
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Michael Berrier wrote:

>I want to use that tool but have some difficulties how the basics =
works.\
>Question:  Do I need to run it only on the LX or on DOS level within the=
 same
>directory?

I'm not sure I understand. You can run it from either the LX, or a PC
with DOS (either native DOS or a DOS prompt under Windows).

You can put the GDBLOAD.EXE and GDBDUMP.EXE programs in the same
directory as the LX files you're converting, or you can place them in
a directory in your PATH (type 'path' to see what it is). Or, you can
place them in another directory, and when you run them, use the full
path name to run the program.

To convert a palmtop file to text, use the GDBDUMP command:
   gdbdump file.pdb > file.txt
Substitute your palmtop's file name for file.pdb, and you can send the
output to any text file name.

To import text into a palmtop file, use the GDBLOAD command:
  gdbload file.pdb file.txt

Good luck,

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:21:01 GMT
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Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

>The problem is this.  I want to define a simple database on the HP
>(let's say two fields; item, price).  I have a list of data; I want to
>import it into my HP database.  How do I do it?  (if it matters, the
>data for import can be comma delimited or columnar.)
>
>I seem to be able to figure out how to bring in a comma-delimited file
>into the appt or the phone database -- but how do I do it for a
>"custom" database?

Use the GDBLOAD program available from www.palmtop.net. I assume
that's what you're using for the phone database already, and it's
exactly the same procedure.=20

It's helpful to first do a GDBDUMP from your defined database, to see
exactly what it wants the field names to look like.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:55:52 -0400
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Quattro Pro 4.0/DOS

   >> Quattro Pro
   >>  4.0/DOS (Netware enabled...whatever that means) for $10 each.
   >>  Anyone know if this version is anything special?
Message-Id: <19990730055603.DYCV8676@İ12.72.155.4¨>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:56:03 +0000

   >The thing about Quattro 4 was that it still had Lotus-compatible
   >macro language, which Borland had to take out of the first release
   >of v5 because of Lotus' famous lawsuit against them.  (They put the
   >language back into a later release.)  Also, there were some neat
   >financial and date calculation formula add-ins for this version
   >that were sold separately.  However, be careful.  As best I can
   >recall, there was at least one fix issued for this release.  Also
   >check around on whether it is Y2K compliant.  I don't believe this
   >will run on the palmtop, although I may be wrong.  But if you can
   >get it with a complete set of manuals, 10 bucks is pretty cheap.

The requirements on the box didn't specify any processor limitations nor
did it require protected memory.  It just required DOS 3.3 or higher, 640k
memory and EMS (LIM 4.0), all of which is literally "at hand".

However, I also have a 123 v2.3 still wrapped in the box, and if the QP 4.0
package doesn't offer much more than 123, there's hardly any reason (for
me) to get it even at $10.

My spreadsheet needs are pretty light, but if it implemented complete font
control and flexible multi-time zone appointments I might look at it some
more <g>.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:55:58 -0400
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Subject:      Re: FWD: importing data on an HP 100 (database question)

   >The problem is this.  I want to define a simple database on the HP
   >(let's say two fields; item, price).  I have a list of data; I want
   >to import it into my HP database.  How do I do it?  (if it matters,
   >the data for import can be comma delimited or columnar.)
   >I seem to be able to figure out how to bring in a comma-delimited
   >file into the appt or the phone database -- but how do I do it for a
   >"custom" database?
Message-Id: <19990730055608.DYDM8676@İ12.72.155.4¨>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:56:08 +0000

If you can handle CDFs, then convert your custom databases into CDFs before
importing.

There are a variety of programs at Simtel and other sites that will do
cross database conversions.  And while it's unlikely any out there will
handle the LX format, most will convert to/from CDF, and some will even
convert a columnar list (fixed fields).  I got a program from Simtel
(CONVR803.zip, or something like that) that does a lot of that.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:29:44 +0100
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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> WHAT DOES MEMO DO to sweep the path clean for the other two,

It sets up the serial port. You have specified what baud rate etc. to
use in the built-in Setup program. You have NOT, however, set up the
port for DOS programs, as it seems. In DOS, you can use the MODE
command to set up the serial port or run programs such as Memo or
DataComm before running the DOS program.

> PE:   Use Internal Printer drivers
> All 3 drivers can be used if no parameters are set.

The printer drivers are ignored by anything but the built-in programs.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:30:37 +0800
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Well I suppose it had to happen.....HPLX crash

Noticed this morning that the custom alarm did not
go off, just a pathetic beeping.  So I though I know I'll
check to see what is going on by testing from the
appointments application (options/beep/custom/test)

The HP announced that the file wasn't there, so I went
to have a look sure enough alarm.snd was gone. So I
had another file alarm1.snd that I was going to rename.

Went to fire up PC tools from the & menu and it wouldn't
run.  Bugger 8-) I thought, lets try a cntrl / alt / delete. This
was a bad move, now all I get on the screen is the following

_______________________________________________

Laplink Remote Access (c) Copyright 1993-94
Travelling software Inc all rights reserved
Copyright (C) Intuit Inc, All rights reserved
Copyright (C) 1991, 1994 Lotus Development.
        All rights reserved
Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard 1990,1994
Copyright (C) 1984, 1985  Pheonix Software Associates Ltd
Version 1.02 A

Microsoft Device Driver for BIOS Services Version 2.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1989-1992. All rights reserved

The Device Driver system installed 02 drives A: - B:.

%¬&#@*&*& _         <-- misc characters and flashing cursor

----------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

If I hit enter it just keeps rebooting to this screen 8-(
It would appear that I have lost my C drive.

Can anyone help me out as this is a new one to me

Regards.......Liam Early
WEstern Australia

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:25:39 +0000
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Long ago I had endless printing problems and decided to slove
them within LXPRO. If you use a serial printer or a serial-
parallel printer adapter, set it up for 9600,N,8,1. Then pop up
LXPRO (or LXPROMIN) with CTRL-TAB and press 0 which will set
up the palmtop with everything needed to print at 9600,N,8,1.

You can do that at any time before printing, from within the
program you want to print from. No need to worry about serial
port settings before running your preffered word processor.
LXPRO is found on SUPER or on my homepage:

http://peichl.hplx.net/lxpro.zip

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:14:36 +0100
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During the last years, I tried to use priority assignments in order to
manage my todos. It basically failed and I stopped using priorities. It
mainly failed because the priorities constantly change and reassigning
priorities takes more effort than just working with a unsorted lists.

In the context of PIM/PE, I am thinking about the whole topic again. If
possible, I would like to introduce a new sorting order that priorises
tasks dynamically, and not by fixed, assigned priorities.

So far, I think a good approach could be to assign certain attributes
to tasks and then use those attributes (together with due dates and
maybe other criteria) to sort the list to get a *current* priority
order.

Attributes I could come up with so far are the following:

important/not important
urgent/not urgent
work intensive/not work intensive

And then, there are certain rules:

- tasks that are both urgent and important are higher priorised than
other tasks

- tasks that are neither urgent nor important are lower priorised than
other tasks

- tasks that are important but not urgent become higher priorised when
they approach the due date

- they become higher priorised faster when they are work intensive

And now I am searching for more attributes, more rules, better rules,
different suggestions and ideas...

Please let me know if you have any contributions!

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:23:33 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I sat up Robot/Lx with Post/Lx. I got it to work just fine with a Nokia
8810 both phonebooktransfer and sms sending/retriving.

Then I tried the new Siemens S25 in the shop today with the same setup
as with the 8810. It did mot work. I tried only sms sending/retriving.

I got:

"Talking to Siemens S25" in the Hp display, but after a short while I
got some error message which I can not remember. But they did not
connect as good as they should have done.

I will test this a bit more next week when I will borrow the S25 home.
And I will report in more detail in what line in the scripts it goes
wrong.

Maybe there are some settings in the phone that must be set to get this
to work..

Andreas, I guess your office neigbour will knock on your door when he
gets his S25..

Maybe all thats needed is a little tuning of the scripts?

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
   From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:24:35 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Arrggg! - it happened 8-(
Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>

I've had this happen before. Do the following:
1. Power off the unit and remove any PCMCIA cards from the unit.
2. Replace all batteries, including the backup battery.
3. Use Shift-Control-On and answer "YES" to initialize the RAM Drive.
4. Recover the C:\ drive from a previous backup archive. Unfortunately, all
data is lost and a backup is all that will work at that point.

Good Luck!

paul_stratton@email.msn.com

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From: Liam M. Early <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 9:30 PM
Subject: Arrggg! - it happened 8-(


> Well I suppose it had to happen.....HPLX crash
>
> Noticed this morning that the custom alarm did not
> go off, just a pathetic beeping.  So I though I know I'll
> check to see what is going on by testing from the
> appointments application (options/beep/custom/test)
>
> The HP announced that the file wasn't there, so I went
> to have a look sure enough alarm.snd was gone. So I
> had another file alarm1.snd that I was going to rename.
>
> Went to fire up PC tools from the & menu and it wouldn't
> run.  Bugger 8-) I thought, lets try a cntrl / alt / delete. This
> was a bad move, now all I get on the screen is the following
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Laplink Remote Access (c) Copyright 1993-94
> Travelling software Inc all rights reserved
> Copyright (C) Intuit Inc, All rights reserved
> Copyright (C) 1991, 1994 Lotus Development.
>         All rights reserved
> Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard 1990,1994
> Copyright (C) 1984, 1985  Pheonix Software Associates Ltd
> Version 1.02 A
>
> Microsoft Device Driver for BIOS Services Version 2.0
> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1989-1992. All rights reserved
>
> The Device Driver system installed 02 drives A: - B:.
>
> %¬&#@*&*& _         <-- misc characters and flashing cursor
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
>
> If I hit enter it just keeps rebooting to this screen 8-(
> It would appear that I have lost my C drive.
>
> Can anyone help me out as this is a new one to me
>
> Regards.......Liam Early
> WEstern Australia
>
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Andreas,

> During the last years, I tried to use priority assignments in order to
> manage my todos. It basically failed and I stopped using priorities. It
> mainly failed because the priorities constantly change and reassigning
> priorities takes more effort than just working with a unsorted lists.
>
> In the context of PIM/PE, I am thinking about the whole topic again. If
> possible, I would like to introduce a new sorting order that priorises
> tasks dynamically, and not by fixed, assigned priorities.

I think you started this thread some time ago and it did keep me busy
in thinking and thinking.

In the past I never did use priority. Talking black and white: I never
had to manage any project fulfilling unimportant or less important
tasks. - However I had to join meetings which were of low, or no
priority at all to my business. -

Tasks can be started at a specified time and have to be done until a
specifies hour, day week or what ever. So when the task actually will
be done is more or less a matter of the schedule, the time which is
required and the time which is available. F7 Timeln helps a lot for me.

At holiday: I do nothing unimportant or minor important at all.

But I am still thinking, the idea has an interesting aspect.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:22:19 +0100
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> "Talking to Siemens S25" in the Hp display, but after a short while I
> got some error message

Can be that it does not work with the S25 at all or it could be that it
just needs some tweaking...

> I will test this a bit more next week when I will borrow the S25 home.
> And I will report in more detail in what line in the scripts it goes
> wrong.

Let me know the error message.

> Andreas, I guess your office neigbour will knock on your door when he
> gets his S25..

He will move back to Germany before he gets one, so it will be more
difficult for him to knock. But as I understand, he now has you to test
it for him before he takes his final decision :-)

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h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> I think you started this thread some time ago

That was in the beta group. No big results there, however.

> In the past I never did use priority. Talking black and white: I never
> had to manage any project fulfilling unimportant or less important
> tasks.

But still you had to decide which of the important tasks you will
tackle next, didn't you? How do you decide that?

My goal is to add support for this kind of decision making into PIM/PE.


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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Borland Tools for free

> I'd say yes. I've used the plain v2.0 on my LX, and I guess 2.01 is just a
> bug-fix update.
>
> Pretty nice of Borland/Inprise, I've always wanted to see the original
> version of Turbo Pascal.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust

Actually that is just the original DOS version of TP, there was a
very popular CP/M version before it.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> important/not important
> urgent/not urgent
> work intensive/not work intensive

You've almost nailed the Covey classifications of tasks.  The important,
not important and urgent, not urgent for the classic four Quadrants of
his time management scheme.

> - tasks that are neither urgent nor important are lower priorised than
> other tasks

I've heard people comment that these tasks ought to me discarded completely,
and not done.  After all, it isn't important, and not urgent, so why
do it at all?   8-)

-Chris



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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:38:45 +0000
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Winfried,

Way to go!  Good work!

I talked to Ed today.  His thoughs were to try to use the WORD 5.5 drivers to print.  Looks like you figured that out.  I never tried to print from different SC sessions.  So it seems that once Memo talks to the printer it is then recognized by the othe
r SC sessions.  Interesting!

There must be at least 250 other conbinations that you have not tried yet. (G) (g,d&r)

Is there a way that drivers can be loaded before SC so it can be seen across all SC sessions?  Thinking aloud.    =Bob=

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Maybe it's something FUN! : )


        I've heard people comment that these tasks ought to me discarded
completely,
        and not done.  After all, it isn't important, and not urgent, so
why
        do it at all?   8-)

        -Chris

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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Can someone walk me through making REXX work? I got this from
somewhere it is called BREXX, by a Vasilis Vlachoudis. I
followed the docs and set it up and when I just run REXX It
gives me the syntax. When I run the command

rexx fact.

for example, machine freezes and requires cold boot.

Any help will be appreciated. I am feeling a bit dumb by now
:-( ...

Avi M. İD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:17:35 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Hi David,

On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:53:20 -0400 David Ness <DNess@Home.Com> writes:
>Sorry, but it's a `pug ugly' solution in my opinion. Not, you
>understand, that it should be anyone else's view, but it _surely_ is
>mine.
>
>Actually, I have hardly ever had a problem. I have read hundreds,
>probably thousands, of airline schedules. They say my plane is departing
>LAX on 8/15 at 10:30. They say it is departing CDG on 9/3 at 09:25. They

>say it is departing NRT on 9/12 at 13:54. In any of these cases. I don't

>have any idea, as I read the schedule, of the time zone of any of these
>times. I just know that when I am there to get on the plane, I will have

>my watch set correctly. I want to be able to record my departure time
>and not think further about it.
>
>Any solution that complicates this important simplicity fails, IMO, to
>deliver anything useful. As it is, the 200 delivers on this pretty well.

  Thanks for your point of view on this, David. Everyone has different
needs, expectations and points of view. As you implied, one partial
solution may be adequate for your unique needs, but that particular
partial solution could be completely useless in meeting someone else's
unique needs.

  Your approach offers reminders and alarms to ensure that you don't miss
a flight that was planned for you by someone else. However, It doesn't
actually address scheduling of appointments or actually managing time for
those other time zones.

 The problem is that without an accurate representation of actual time
progression, one cannot efficiently visualize, plan or manage available
time for alternate time zones.

  My focus is on a generic total solution that I hope will cover
everyone's time management requirements. My proposed solution might not
be fully developed yet and may still be a little rough around the edges,
but I believe that the concept does actually cover all of the bases.

  Do I understand correctly then that my proposed full solution would
actually cover your  needs, but that you prefer a less complicated
approach that is tailored to cover only your specific needs?

  Thanks again for offering another point of view, David.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> It seems like I can only get the serial port to successfully work if I run
> Filer and shell out to DOS (filer still running). Then LL3 works successfully.
> I recall that is what I had to do to print serially.
>
> If in pure DOS (not shelled out to DOS), I can't seem to get the serial port
> to respond. I suspect the LX hangs on to the UART interrupt or ties up the

Again, another simple suggestion from me:
Did you go to the built-in Setup application, and check that the "Com port power
in DOS" is enabled?

Bruce in Toronto

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> Hi ZigZag & List,
>
> Have you tried Menu95?
> There was one more but the name escapes me at the time.

> Regards,
> Qman...

Well, i havent, but i read on it... and the other one, isnt it a text based
menu? I want something that looks like win95/98 or CE

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rclott@RO.COM R. Christopher Lott wrote:
> I've heard people comment that these tasks ought to me discarded completely,
> and not done.  After all, it isn't important, and not urgent, so why
> do it at all?   8-)

I guess I should rename "not important" to "less important" and "not
urgent" to "less urgent".

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Andreas,

thank you for the extra coaching of a DOS-illiterate, I try
hard not to abuse too much !

You wrote:
> You have NOT, however, set up the port for DOS programs,
> as it seems. In DOS, you can use the MODE command to set up
> the serial port or run programs such as Memo or DataComm
> before running the DOS program.

This workaround, running Memo, as I already had found out
myself (by accident), works. I can also bring about the same
via Buddy by pressing + in FILER (Serial port ON). This after
I understood, through your advice, what is happening.

However, setting up the serial port with the MODE command does
NOT work (up to now). Look what happens:

I reboot, (no MODE command in Autoexec.bat and SC6-WORD), go
to SC6 and WORD. shell to DOS within WORD, execute d:\dos\mode
com1:96,n,8,1,p
Result: the WORD print command is shot off, but no printer
reaction is noticeable.  Shelling back to DOS and additionally
rerouting to COM1 (d:\dos\mode lpt1:=3Dcom1:) makes WORD hang
when trying to print. Although the 200LX can be switched off by
pushing the ON/OFF button twice, control can only be regained
through a hard reset.

In the DOS Microref guide Version 5.0 from Thaddeus I found
print /d:com1 to set the default printer, but DOS tells me
that this is a bad command (strange, it should be a part of
the resident command.com, should it not ?).

I could live with the workaround, but having studied DOS
soooo muchchch (not really !) it nags me not to know what
Jeffrey Mattox does programmingwise to switch the Serial Port
ON. If I could execute that same command in the Startup for
my PE and WORD Work Areas that would be the elegant way.

Do you know the answer ?

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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> to SC6 and WORD. shell to DOS within WORD, execute d:\dos\mode
> com1:96,n,8,1,p

I assume "96" is a typo and it should be "9600".

> soooo muchchch (not really !) it nags me not to know what
> Jeffrey Mattox does programmingwise to switch the Serial Port
> ON. If I could execute that same command in the Startup for
> my PE and WORD Work Areas that would be the elegant way.

SERCTL /W

should do the same (turn serial port on and set it to "wired").

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:29:02 -0400
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John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
>  The problem is that without an accurate representation of actual time
> progression, one cannot efficiently visualize, plan or manage available
> time for alternate time zones.
>

I do this all the time and have no trouble with it. In general the
only durations that get mis-represented happen during times that I
am in the air anyway, and am not likely to schedule meetings
_during_ most flights. On the relatively rare occasions that I
fly the Concorde, there is a theoretical possibility, I guess, of
`schedule overlap', but in practice the overlap time is always `dead
time' associated with getting to or from the airport, so even then it
rarely causes any difficulty. Once every decade or so, I do get two
appointments that theoretically `overlap' but are actually ok. This
is (a) incredibly rare; and (b) easy to handle as an exception.

>
>   My focus is on a generic total solution that I hope will cover
> everyone's time management requirements. My proposed solution might not
> be fully developed yet and may still be a little rough around the edges,
> but I believe that the concept does actually cover all of the bases.
>
>   Do I understand correctly then that my proposed full solution would
> actually cover your  needs, but that you prefer a less complicated
> approach that is tailored to cover only your specific needs?
>

No. I don't want to have to do _anything_ with regard to time zone.
I often schedule appointments without knowing the time zone that
will be operating when the appointment takes place. This is particularly
true at the time of the year that England shifts to `Summer Time',
and I find that I often don't actually know the `correction' that
should apply until I get off of the plane and look at a local clock to
reset my watch (and my 200). Any solution that would require me to
`know' and, even worse, `calculate' with, for example, appointments
made across two weeks in England, where the shift to summer time takes
place between them, would be a literal nightmare for me. If I read
your `solution' correctly, I'd have to know about this and adjust
for it.

I would have thought that _most_ travellers schedule long and elaborate
trips without _any regard_ (special accomodation for) time zones.
Certainly it is true of most of my colleagues in the international
consulting business. I have scheduled lots of appointments on many
dozens of international trips without ever knowing anything about `time
zones'. The only time they come up is with respect to phone calls, as it
is all too easy to wake someone up in NYC with a call from Tokyo. But
phone calls, at least in my business, are rarely `scheduled' and thus
don't constitute much of a problem.

>
>   Thanks again for offering another point of view, David.
>

You're welcome.

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> No. I don't want to have to do _anything_ with regard to time zone.
> I often schedule appointments without knowing the time zone that
> will be operating when the appointment takes place. This is particularly
> true at the time of the year that England shifts to `Summer Time',
> and I find that I often don't actually know the `correction' that
> should apply until I get off of the plane and look at a local clock to
> reset my watch (and my 200).


That's why the solution I proposed, based on the "absolute time" paradigm,
would permit one to specify a "floating" time zone appointment, which would
behave just as you describe (and as the 200LX currently behaves).  You
could just specify "LOCAL" as your timezone, and you're cooking.  Also,
one could specify LOCAL as the default time zone, and the entire system
would behave just like the current 200LX.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:47:59 +0000
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Comments: To: Curtis Cameron <curtc@airmail.net>
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1999-07-30-05:00:42 Curtis Cameron:
> Bennett Todd wrote:
> >Those of us who favour an absolute time model are forced to take into
> >account the other person's timezone whenever we do anything that straddles
> >timezones, one way or another
>
> I think what you're saying is that you, as an absolute-time person,
> need to be aware of the timezone difference when scheduling a meeting
> with a person in a distant city, whether you're using an LX machine or
> a CE machine.

Actually, I was trying to point out a weakness suffered by us absolute-time
folk compared to the relative-time crowd. Folks who prefer what I'm calling
the relative time model (not necessarily the best name) can get away with
ignoring timezones in one case: make an appointment with someone in another
timezone, using a tool like the LX. You have a friend in Paris, call 'em from
New York and make an appointment to meet at a favourite cafe for lunch. Enter
the time as 12:00 or whatever you agree on, ignore the timezone difference.
Then fly to Paris and tell the LX to change timezones while you are on the
flight. Voila, by the time your LX gets to wanting to do anything interesting
with the appointment, the error has disappeared. You got to ignore the
timezone difference.

By contrast, those of us who prefer absolute time never get to ignore the
timezone difference, even if we're going to travel to zero it out before the
appointment comes up.

> Suppose you're in New York and you're setting up an appointment to be
> held in San Francisco. If you think in New York time and you're
> entering the appt in the 200LX, then you'll think 1400 NY time, and
> have to adjust for the three hour difference and enter it as 1100.

If you're talking with someone in SF, you say you'll meet him in his office at
1100, you enter it in your HP as 1100, and you never force yourself to think
about the fact that you, your HP, and the appointment will all be in a
different timezone by the time the appointment comes up. This is the big point
made by the people who favour relative time.

That illustrates the downside to an absolute time model; this particular case
where the relative time folk get to ignore timezones. The price they pay is
losing meaningful intervals and time relationships when timezones change,
either from travel or from legislation.

> So for those of you (and I think it's a small minority) who think in
> absolute time, you will need to be aware of time zone differences in
> either case. For everyone else, there is clearly a better way to do
> it, and it ain't the CE way.

Yup. And if you're happy with the state of affairs where you can land before
you take off, where the time between two events may be different as
experienced than as indicated by your appointment book, then you are a
complete winner. Oh, except when dealing with someone in a different timezone
and _not_ travelling --- scheduling a conference call, or a major server
downtime, or like that --- we all are in the same boat for that one.

> Your way to view time is not wrong or right, just different. However,
> it seem to me that there's clearly a right and a wrong way to design
> how the palmtop handles time zone changes.

The LX's model is one that works well enough, particularly if it agrees with
the way that you think about time. The model used by other systems, including
(according to others in this thread) WinCE boxes and Palm Pilots, and for sure
including Unix systems, can also work well. I'm beginning to suspect that the
real ideal solution, perfect for everyone, would be (as others have suggested)
an absolute time model, with a system default time that you can reset when you
travel, and a really easy-to-use mechanism for garnishing any specific entry
with a distinct timezone that can be used for entering it, and which will be
displayed as a second representation of the time.

So say your computer is keeping all times, internally, in GMT. For events
within your timezone you get to ignore this, and the system knows the rules
for DST and switches its display translation automatically to reflect the
change. To make repeating appointments that advance and retreat along with
daylight losing time work out right, you'll want the default handling of a
repeating appointment to be a floating translation that follows whatever
timezone the computer happens to be in when the appointment is coming up,
which is totally nasty, but once it's dealt with in code we can forget it. And
for dealing with appointments in other timezones, landing times on flights,
setting up international conference calls, and the other brain-bending chores
that plague us, we'll want to be able to garnish any event with an alternative
timezone, enter its time in that alternative timezone, and see the alternative
displayed alongside the event when we look at it in our appt views as long as
the alternative is different from the system default.

Hmm. Maybe the display should _never_ shift for appointments, they should
always stay nailed in their associated timezone. So you're sitting in Paris
and you flip back a couple of weeks to review events and see them displayed in
EST or whatever.

Say I'm flying from NYC, where I live, to SF. Right now I'm in EDT (GMT-4),
I'm flying to PDT (GMT-7). I enter my take off time and don't mention the
timezone, I enter the landing time and note that it's PDT. The computer is
smart enough to know the relationship between those two times, the events show
up in their proper relationship on the day view, the right amount of the bar
is darkened, etc. As I enter events that'll be happening in SF I'm garnishing
them with PDT. When I take off I shift the LX's system default. In fact,
wouldn't it be sexy if that were an easy option --- when you enter up the TZ
dialogue to tell it the landing time is PDT, hit a checkbox to say that you'll
be there and it should shift the system default.

Maybe I'll have to write me an appt app of my own.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:47:55 -0400
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On the theory that adding a level of complexity that you can make
invisible doesn't cost anyone anything other than a little ROM, I
suppose what you say is true.

Practically speaking, my guess is that the number of people that would
choose anything other than `LOCAL' would be vanishingly small, and that
once they had some experience with it---and inadvertently missed their
first plane flight, as many have reported doing with Palm Pilots---even
these few would soon return to LOCAL, thus leaving us just exactly right
where we are now anyway.

Of course, YMMV.

"R. Christopher Lott" wrote:
>
> That's why the solution I proposed, based on the "absolute time" paradigm,
> would permit one to specify a "floating" time zone appointment, which would
> behave just as you describe (and as the 200LX currently behaves).  You
> could just specify "LOCAL" as your timezone, and you're cooking.  Also,
> one could specify LOCAL as the default time zone, and the entire system
> would behave just like the current 200LX.
>
> -Chris
>

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> During the last years, I tried to use priority assignments in order to
> manage my todos. It basically failed and I stopped using priorities. It

.........

Here are some of my thoughts (as well as a message to test cis' changes
to pop/smtp!! (G)):

> But when do you *start* a task? In case  you have enough time to easily
> start and complete all tasks, this is not a problem, but I doubt you
> have time to do everything. So I assume you use some strategies to
> decide what comes next, don't you?

Isn't this when HUMAN instinct kicks in?  And I guess this is what I
kind of asked/hinted the first time - the user will still have to spend
a great deal (relative, of course) trying to micro-determine the
characteristics of each item in comparison to the others so that there
is sufficient criteria for a computer program to then make the final
judgment???  Just kicking around the concept of when the computer can
do/judge and when the human really does have to make the call.  And in
order to provide the computer enough data to make the call or judgment
the user may be spending substantial thought on checking off a whole
slew of criteria???

But I admit I'm the philosophical "winger" (wing it - kind of check the
wind, the mood, the nature of things and JUMP! (G))  And fortunately I
don't have lots of projects that overlap - particularly work related.  I
have cases but they are more or less scheduled and decisions due in
about 2 weeks.  A rolling schedule.  Tues' Hearing decisions are due out
2 weeks later on Tues unless I ask additional time.

The idea though is fascinating.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:09:34 +0000
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Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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1999-07-30-14:47:55 David Ness:
> Practically speaking, my guess is that the number of people that would
> choose anything other than `LOCAL' would be vanishingly small, and that
> once they had some experience with it---and inadvertently missed their
> first plane flight, as many have reported doing with Palm Pilots---even
> these few would soon return to LOCAL, thus leaving us just exactly right
> where we are now anyway.

Well, I guess the number of people that would choose anything other than LOCAL
would not include you, so it would vanish from your point of view.

But it would be nice to have an answer other than "don't" when
somneone asks about how to properly enter times for flights that seem to land
before they take off. It'd be even nicer to have intervals correctly
displayed. It'd be totally spiffy to be able to easily schedule multi-timezone
events. It'd be awfully sexy if the disappearing and duplicated hours that
show up when the local legislature dorks with the clocks could be accurately
and intelligently displayed and handled by the appt book application, just in
case you happen to need to do something at that time.

I think the heart of the idea has been sketched out by others here already.
And as the illustration of BST shows, the nicest way to handle it would
probably be to have some very easy-to-use city-picker available for specifying
the timezone, so the ruleset that tries to know about the wacky clock-changing
games played by all the different legislatures could be brought to bear on the
problem.

Thank heaven we all use general-purpose computers, so we at least have the
option of trying to experiment with other ways of solving these problems.

-Bennett

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:08:19 +0200
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Bruce,

> Again, another simple suggestion from me:
> Did you go to the built-in Setup application, and check that the "Com =
port power
> in DOS" is enabled?

an excellent question: I have never been aware of this
setting. Will remember it in the future.

However, when I checked now, it was ticked. As I had never
touched it, it must have been set all the time.

Thanks a lot !
Winfried

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:09:28 -0400
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Just happened to stumble on this in my wanderings...

http://members.primary.net/~cholowat/utility.html

...has links to download Windows versions 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.1 and 3.0
...as well as WP 5.1, Flight Sim 4.0, Lap Link 3 and a few other goodies.

I'm sure that they make this software available for evaluation purposes only, of
course.

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>I assume WWW/LX and Nettamer were set up
>properly and CCLXPOP is not.
>Check the configuration parameters
>(phone number, port, modem init,
>server names, DNS name, etc.)
>Are they all the same that you use for
>the other applications?

As I wrote before: It works nice from cclxpop
with an external modem

-goe-


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Uff! Up to know it was annoying enough that I got most messages twice:
on the list and in email. Now I get it three times: email, list and the
beta :-(

Here is what I wrote to you on in the beta:

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From: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@iprolink.ch>
Subject: Re: Task Priorities
To: Fred K<75162.2616@compuserve.com>

Fred K wrote:
> Isn't this when HUMAN instinct kicks in?  And I guess this is what I
> kind of asked/hinted the first time - the user will still have to spend
> a great deal (relative, of course) trying to micro-determine the
> characteristics of each item in comparison to the others so that there
> is sufficient criteria for a computer program to then make the final
> judgment???

I don't think the program should make the final judgement (beware!)!
But I think the program could assist the user to sort the items
coarsely.

> And in
> order to provide the computer enough data to make the call or judgment
> the user may be spending substantial thought on checking off a whole
> slew of criteria???

So far, I have urgent/important/lost_of_work. How long does it take to
assign those attributes to a task? And it would still e able to pop a
task that was not urgent but important to the top of the list of your
100 tasks when the due date is tomorrow. Wouldn't that help?

Andreas
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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> >Check the configuration parameters
> >(phone number, port, modem init,
> >server names, DNS name, etc.)
> >Are they all the same that you use for
> >the other applications?
>
> As I wrote before: It works nice from cclxpop
> with an external modem

So you can ignore DNS etc. and focus on the settings for the COM port
and the modem (modem init etc). Also make sure you have cic100 or lxcic
running if it is a PCMCIA modem.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:50:48 -0500
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              99 02:47:59 pm
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> losing meaningful intervals and time relationships when timezones change,
> either from travel or from legislation.

I have always been amazed at computer programs that claim to properly
deal with converting any local time to GMT.  I once had to do this on
a project, where we were merging data tapes, and one of them had data
recorded in local time.  I did some research on time zones (the somewhat
easy part of the problem) and Daylight Savings Time (the most complicated
part of the problem).  Basically, to properly convert local to GMT,
one has to be able to predict the actions of Congress - no easy trick!
I've often wondered why a company that could perform such a feat would
waste their resources writing time conversion software, when there were
so many more lucrative avenues to pursue, given their special talents...

-Chris Lott

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1999-07-30-15:50:48 R. Christopher Lott:
> I have always been amazed at computer programs that claim to properly
> deal with converting any local time to GMT.

Yes indeedy. For anyone interested in the topic, I believe the current last
word on the topic has been made by Arthur David Olson, and is available from
<URL:ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/>. This is the source of the database and
code to manipulate it that's used in the Red Hat 6.0 libc; I wouldn't be
surprised if it weren't used by most Unixes out there.

For sure I wouldn't dream of trying to reimplement this particular nightmare.

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Tanas
I'd definately be interested in a CAD program for my Omnibook 425.
I don't think I'm quite ambitious enough to try it on my palmtop (although
I'm sure someone on the list will)
Let me know what you discover or let me have their address and I'll
explore and report back

Andrew King  king@charlie.iit.edu
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technology is the answer, what was the question?

Date:    Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:05:43 +0200
From:    Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU>
Subject: DesignSoft, other program suites

     Hello All,

When a few months ago I contacted DesignSoft (who made
 Palmtop Circuit), I didn't know of their other programs.

Since I learned that they have a family of programs, all ba-
 sed on ArCAD, an architectural CAD program, which was first
 written in TP for PC/XT and DOS around 1992. They are all
 able to run on XT with CGA without co-processor (FPU) and
 can export to AutoCAD, for eg. later rendering.

The family has the following members:
 ArCAD normal and professional versions
 MyHouse, an ArCAD Lite version optimized for flat design
 3D Office, a version tailored for office interior design and layout
 3D Eyewitness, which documents crime and traffic crash scenes

The Arcad prof. version has the extra features, like:
 grahics mode designer, layout tool for paper drawings,
 editor for paper designs with 3D and section-cut, etc.
 It is said to be faster than ACAD R10 (at least if the
 hardware used is the same, eg. there is FPU installed.
 AutoCAD does not work w/o FPU or an emulator at least).
 There are lots of design bureaus using versions of ArCAD
 for real work (mostly Windows, but some still have DOS).

Question: should I ask around for more info, anyone
 interested? Hint: seems like they would sell anything
 DOS for 80USD/license. Palmtop versions (unlike desktop)
 would not require hardware security key, of course...

                  Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Andreas,

I became so happy with your reply, eventually there is
something *I* can contribute:

96 is no typo, I got it straight from the Microref page 42:
the two zeros can be left out ! Guess how I feel now !!

> SERCTL /W should do the same (turn serial port on and set
> it to "wired").

With my new feeling of self-confidence I shelled to DOS,
typed SERCTL /W and hit Enter ------  Nothing ! too bad.

But, ha, there is the SUPER site! ------Nothing between SELICN
and SET Enhancer.

All my new pride gone !

How/where to find SERCTL ?

Regards
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Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:22:28 -0500 (EST)

01h50m14s ago ...
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Uff! Up to know it was annoying enough that I got most messages twice:
> on the list and in email. Now I get it three times: email, list and the
> beta :-(...

        Its just "Deja Vu all over again"!

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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
>
> How/where to find SERCTL ?
>
d:\bin\serctl.com

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Some of you may have heard of the IBM "microdrive", a Type II compact
flash format device which is unfortunately too thick to be used in the
HPLX. Now a company has announced a Type I microdrive, 250MB capacity.
This should work in the HP200/100, I would think (depending on what the
power requirements turn out to be, etc).  You can read about it on this
page...
http://www.steves-digicams.com/diginews.html

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              from "Andrew King" at Jul 30, 99 11:22:02 am
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> Tanas
> I'd definately be interested in a CAD program for my Omnibook 425.
> I don't think I'm quite ambitious enough to try it on my palmtop (although
> I'm sure someone on the list will)
> Let me know what you discover or let me have their address and I'll
> explore and report back

Chris Lott is interested, too.  I'm pretty happy with AutoCAD R10 for now,
but perhaps this program offers some new features.  AutoCAD compatibility
is essential for my needs.

-Chris

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> And now I am searching for more attributes, more rules, better rules,
> different suggestions and ideas...
>
> Please let me know if you have any contributions!

There are three questions I have to consider when assigning a priority to a task
in the palmtop Todo application:

1. How soon is it due?
2. How much time will it take me to do it?
3. How much value will come from my doing it?

The first question is easy, because it's expressed by the due date. The task
with the nearest due date gets priority #1.

The second question is fairly easy too, because I simply estimate the
hours/days/weeks then add that time on to the due date to see how early I must
start working on the task. The priorities now shift so that the task with the
nearest "start" date now gets priority #1.

The third question is quite difficult, mostly because it's very subjective. I
assign "value" on a scale of 1 to 5 (with "1" meaning the greatest and "5"
meaning the least value), then multiply my priorities by their values. This
gives low-value tasks rather high numbers, forcing them to the bottom of my
priorities, while the high-value tasks stay at the top of the list.

Just my $0.02
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Subject:      Re: Task priorities

On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> writes:

>Attributes I could come up with so far are the following:
>
>important/not important
>urgent/not urgent
>work intensive/not work intensive
>
>And now I am searching for more attributes, more rules, better rules,
>different suggestions and ideas...

<delurk>

How about  enjoyable/dreadful? <g>

Dreadful tasks have a higher priority than a similar task without the
dreadful attribute. This serves to get unpleasant tasks off your schedule
and out of mind. If your ugliest tasks are done, your day can only get
better.

Tasks with the enjoyable attribute can be targeted for times when you
need a morale boost or a reward to help you through the day. Not sure how
to phrase that as a rule, though.

Mike Messenger





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  Looks interesting.  Thanks for the pointer.

  More info is available on their web site:
        http://www.halodd.com/products/techinfo.html

  As far as "can it work in the LX or not"?  They only say that it uses 3.3
volts and the peak current is "less than" 250 ma...

          ... JLS


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Biggers İmailto:biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 12:57 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: New Type I microdrive announced.
>
>
> Some of you may have heard of the IBM "microdrive", a Type II compact
> flash format device which is unfortunately too thick to be used in the
> HPLX. Now a company has announced a Type I microdrive, 250MB capacity.
> This should work in the HP200/100, I would think (depending
> on what the
> power requirements turn out to be, etc).  You can read about
> it on this
> page...
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/diginews.html
>
> Bryan

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I must have missed the latest declarations about the 440MB flash disks.
Last I heard, there was some imcompatibility with the palmtop.  Has
anyone explained and/or solved this problem?  I'd love to hear more...

-Chris Lott

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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> I became so happy with your reply, eventually there is
> something *I* can contribute:

Gooood! <G>

> 96 is no typo

Did not know about that. I wonder if I can do the same with my bills...
<G>

> How/where to find SERCTL ?

What about d:\bin\serctl.com? I believe it is described in the HP200LX
manual.

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mmessenger@JUNO.COM Michael S. Messenger wrote:
> How about  enjoyable/dreadful? <g>

You put a "<G", but I believe there is actually something important
about it. After all we are humans!

> Dreadful tasks have a higher priority than a similar task without the
> dreadful attribute. This serves to get unpleasant tasks off your schedule
> and out of mind.

I wonder if that can be generalised. There are people who first eat
everything they don't like so that the most delicious part can be
enjoyed at the end and there are people who pick the tastyest stuff
first in case they cannot eat everything.

> Not sure how
> to phrase that as a rule, though.

That's the hard part, maybe. Anyway, suggestion is noted! Thanks!

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<<I must have missed the latest declarations about the 440MB flash disks.
Last I heard, there was some imcompatibility with the palmtop.  Has
anyone explained and/or solved this problem?  I'd love to hear more...>>

The Sandisk 440 MB flash card with the latest ACE driver. Other solutions
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> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > "Talking to Siemens S25" in the Hp display, but after a short while I
> > got some error message
>
> Can be that it does not work with the S25 at all or it could be that it
> just needs some tweaking...
>
> > I will test this a bit more next week when I will borrow the S25 home.
> > And I will report in more detail in what line in the scripts it goes
> > wrong.
>
> Let me know the error message.

Will do...

>
> > Andreas, I guess your office neigbour will knock on your door when he
> > gets his S25..
>
> He will move back to Germany before he gets one, so it will be more
> difficult for him to knock. But as I understand, he now has you to test
> it for him before he takes his final decision :-)
>
> Andreas
>

Yeah I guess so. I will only borrow the S25 at first to see if I get it to work.

I will keep you posted..thanks

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I have bought a Magicram 32MB flash card and adapter for my 100LX but I
can't get it to work, is this because I don't have the ACECARD driver or
is it just not possible to use this card with the 100 LX ?

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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Ole Andreas Torvmark wrote:

> I have bought a Magicram 32MB flash card and adapter for my 100LX but
> I can't get it to work, is this because I don't have the ACECARD
> driver or is it just not possible to use this card with the 100 LX ?

You need the ACECARD driver.

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Looking for another 95LX - 200LX to Buy. Saw a 200LX for $100.00, are
these
still around?

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Thanks for reading...
I have a 95LX that has a cracked screen... Can anyone help me locate a
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> I for one would recomend to Ed that he consider relocating to an area with
> a lower crime rate! <G>

I did.  The thefts all ocurred when I was in college.  The 15c was
stolen from my desk in my locked office.  Clearly someone with
a master key wandering from office to office looking for things
to steal.

Now I live on the other side of the country.  The last burglary
in my neighborhood was in the 50's, and they're still talking
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> >I want to use that tool but have some difficulties how the basics works.\
> >Question:  Do I need to run it only on the LX or on DOS level within the same
> >directory?
>
> I'm not sure I understand. You can run it from either the LX, or a PC
> with DOS (either native DOS or a DOS prompt under Windows).

Hell, run it under Unix if you like.  The source code is available.

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I just received the latest catalog from Thaddeus today.
says they supply a driver to make the large cards (280,
350, & 440M) work.

Ron

> I must have missed the latest declarations about the 440MB flash disks.
> Last I heard, there was some imcompatibility with the palmtop.  Has
> anyone explained and/or solved this problem?  I'd love to hear more...
>
> -Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:25:58 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: New Type I microdrive announced.

Now a company has announced a Type I microdrive, 250MB capacity.  This
should work in the HP200/100,
 I would think (depending on what the power
requirements turn out to be, etc).  You can
read about it on this page...
>http://www.steves-digicams.com/diginews.html

Didn't see nuthing re drives.

yor pal al..........................................

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:18:43 -0700
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> Andreas wrote:

> During the last years, I tried to use priority assignments in order to

> manage my todos. It basically failed and I stopped using priorities.
It
> mainly failed because the priorities constantly change and reassigning

> priorities takes more effort than just working with a unsorted lists.

It depends how big the list is. :-)

But, now you are starting to get my attention.
My current TODO list is a GDB with the following structure:

Title
Priority
Category
Recall date
contact
phone
Note

Every day I try to accomplish the top 10 items (by priority) and "look
at"
the top 20 % of the items, re-prioritizing as needed.

Several times a month I go through the whole list, re-priortizing.

Whenever anything is accomplished or no longer "worthy" of being on my
list, I delete it.

In designing your system, some things are date critical, many are not
(just keep
working till its done)

If the program is allowed ability to prioritize, I would want to be able
to
easily over ride.

With my current system I can re-prioritize the current (highlighted
listed)
item with 4 keystrokes. Enter, Enter, "number", F10. That is workable
(all
right, if I am reducing the priority, there may be 2 numbers for 10-99,
making it 5 keys) and not one of those keys requires me to know or
remember
anything.

I would be willing to spend more time inputting an item initially, if it

somehow gave me more intelligent sorting (prioritizing)

So the question now is, "What data should that be, and what should be
the
rules?"

Bob

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:31:40 EDT
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In a message dated 7/30/1999 02:25:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM writes:

>
>  1. How soon is it due?
>  2. How much time will it take me to do it?
>  3. How much value will come from my doing it?
>
You also need to know how many other things have to be done between now and
the due date.

If a 4 hour task is due tomorrow, you are golden -- unless you also have to
work all day, and attend a wedding that is a 3 hour drive away.  Unless you
can do the chore at work or while you are driving, you're going to get very
little sleep.

Of course, if you want the computer to point out this kind of problems, you
probably need a project management package instead of a to-do list with
prioritization.

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In a message dated 7/30/1999 09:19:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bobv@SOS.NET
writes:

>
>  Every day I try to accomplish the top 10 items (by priority) and "look
>  at" the top 20 % of the items, re-prioritizing as needed.
>
>  Several times a month I go through the whole list, re-priortizing.
>
Bob,  Have you considered sorting by due date as the primary sort, and by
priority as the 2nd sort?  This way, if a lower priority item is due today,
you will have to decide to either assign a new due date (if it takes more
time than its worth) or stick it in with today's top ten (if it will only
take a few minutes.)

If I promised to do a low priority item in the next couple of weeks, but
didn't get to it, I'd like to at least call the promisee back & let him know
about the slip.  If the promisee has done me a big favor, the priority of his
request may have changed, too.

Just a thought. YMMV

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:42:50 +1000
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I am trying to manipulate a Quicken Interchange Format file (.QIF) to make it
more useful when I import it into Pocket Quicken.   The .QIF file in question
has been downloaded from my banks internet site and it presents the data as
follows:

!Type:CCard
D07/13/99
T75.00
P31931020123
MPAYMENT - THANK YOU
¬
D07/07/99
T-177.90
P74940529123
PJIM MURPHY MARKET CELL   FYSHWICK     AU
¬
D06/29/99
T-65.34
P74541839123
MWEITNAUER S'PORE-#022-29CSINGAPORE    SG FRGN          72.00SINGAPORE DOLLAR
¬
D06/28/99
T-178.73
P24229709123
MDOUBLETREE HOTELS PARK T WASHINGTON   DC FRGN         115.65US DOLLAR
¬

For those who understand the .QIF format you can see that the Payee line
(starting with 'P') shows a transaction reference number that I am not
interested in while the Memo Line (starting with an 'M') shows all the
infromation that I am interested in.   What I am trying to do is:
1. delete the 'P' line
2. break up the 'M' line so that the first 25 characters appear on a 'P' line
while the remainder stay on the 'M' line.   Taking the last transaction as an
example, the before and after should look like:

Before:

D06/28/99
T-178.73
P24229709123
MDOUBLETREE HOTELS PARK T WASHINGTON   DC FRGN         115.65US DOLLAR

After:

D06/28/99
T-178.73
PDOUBLETREE HOTELS PARK T
MWASHINGTON   DC FRGN         115.65US DOLLAR

To try and do this I have started using SED downloaded from the SUPER site and
so far I can only delete the 'P' line and turn the 'M' line into a 'P' line but
I can't break it up.   I can't quite understand the intricacies of the SED
documentation to do this and so I ask any experts out there if they could help
me on this one.   My current SED script file is as follows:

s/¬P/P/g        (If line starts with P replace with P)
Tabc            (If any replaces havent happened, jump to abc)
d               (delete current line (ie. old P line))
:abc
s/¬M/P/g        (replace M at line start with P)

Alternatively, if anyone can recommend a better text manipulation tool that
would do they job I would be interested.   Thanks in advance.

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Did anyone else besides me get a erroneous signoff from the list?
I've been getting the list fine, and nobody else has complained of
undelivered mail to me.

Obviously I've already resubscribed, but I'm just curious if there was a
burp in the system.

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Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:00:15

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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, David Kramer wrote:

> Did anyone else besides me get a erroneous signoff from the list? I've
> been getting the list fine, and nobody else has complained of
> undelivered mail to me.
> Obviously I've already resubscribed, but I'm just curious if there was
> a burp in the system.

I got the same message, and was unsubscribed.  Al, what's the deal?  Does
the list require that you re-subscribe every year or something?

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Subject:      Re: Task priorities and the good life

   >Of course, if you want the computer to point out this kind of
   >problems, you probably need a project management package instead of
   >a to-do list with prioritization.
Message-Id: <19990731044415.KDOL12664@İ12.72.154.158¨>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 04:44:15 +0000

I think it's possible to over-manage your life, and to rely too heavily on
things just to make a go of living.

For some of us, maybe the solution is to do less.

My $0.02 .... from someone who's disorganized and yet still makes it thru
the day, and whose LX has not yet turned into a ball and chain  ;)

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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   >I got the same message, and was unsubscribed.  Al, what's the deal?
   >Does the list require that you re-subscribe every year or something?
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 04:50:28 +0000

Another miracle of automation <g>.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:39:53 -0700
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I am in the process of setting up Goin' Postal on my 2 mb '200lx.  I've
read through GP Setup instructions, and have managed to get most of the
menu items configured.  I am using an EXP 1414LXM PCMCIA card modem with 2
mb onboard.  I have extracted the GP files on the c: drive in a directory
c:\gp

The program launches and the following text displays when I initiate a
connect:

at&f
ok
atdt3620785
connect 14,400/...
negotiating network connection
CHAP authentication failed
PPP link is down. driver not installed
cannot access packet driver. terminating
packet driver terminator version 11.1
termin  no packet driver at that address


It's appears I need to load the packet driver, however it isn't clear to me
where
(new directory? GP directory?).

The setup instructions don't make any mention of installing a packet
driver, however it goes through a brief description of preparing scripts.

Do I need to prepare a script?
If so, are there any AT&T Worldnet subscribers out there who have scripts
that would work with a local number?  AT&T's  800 number?

I've asked a lot of questions here, so I'll stop before anyone inclined to
help stops reading!  It's fairly obvious I haven't had a lot of experience
with the '200, however what's throwing me off is that I just finished
trying WWW/LX, and I didn't need to load a packet driver, etc to dial in &
connect...  guess GP is set up differently.

Sure would appreciate some help from those of you in the know...

TIA,

Al Creswell
Salem OR












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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 06:38:34 GMT
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Hi friends,

>
> I have found this on a website:(cellular.co.za/siemens_s25.htm)
>
> Siemens S25 Data services:
> Integrated Internet access
> Built in modem
> IrDA interface
> Remote Control (via AT-C)
> SMS Managmement (MT,MO.CB)
> Phonebook management

Sorry, Martin, don't know the answer for your question, but I have
another question: ;-)

Sounds like we could use this phone for internet surfing and email
down-/uploading with WWW/LX, or couldn't we?

I already considered buying a new cell phone, I only have to decide
between the Nokia 6150 (cheaper, but data only with additional card
(expensive!)) or S25 (more expensive, but seems like it has a IrDA
modem built-in).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:05:32 +0100
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bob wrote:
> Every day I try to accomplish the top 10 items (by priority) and "look
> at" the top 20 % of the items, re-prioritizing as needed.

How do you do that? What are the main criteria for rearranging them?

> If the program is allowed ability to prioritize, I would want to be able
> to easily over ride.

The program would not assign priorities, but sort the list so that the
items that should be tackled first are more likely closer to the top of
the list.

> So the question now is, "What data should that be, and what should be
> the rules?"

That's exactly the question I asked. <G>

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:05:35 +0100
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> In a message dated 7/30/1999 02:25:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM writes:
>
> >
> >  1. How soon is it due?
> >  2. How much time will it take me to do it?
> >  3. How much value will come from my doing it?

This is odd! I never received that message. Could somebody (the author)
please repost it?

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:11:26 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Can someone walk me through making REXX work? I got this from
> somewhere it is called BREXX, by a Vasilis Vlachoudis. I
> followed the docs and set it up and when I just run REXX It
> gives me the syntax. When I run the command
>
> rexx fact.
>
> for example, machine freezes and requires cold boot.

BREXX is known to have problems with the LX. I think it has to do with the
maths co-processor detection routine.

ISTR that the author of BREXX was notified of this and said he would post
a fixed version on his FTP-site (the main distribution site of BREXX),
however, I never think he did.

I did recompile the sources of v1.3 (which is not the newest version by
now) with 8087-emulation turned on and it worked on the LX, but, I no
longer have the binary.


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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:21:36 +0200
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Nancy,

> While you guys are working on printing from Word 5.5,
> maybe you can help me out too.

I have sucessfully finished the WORD Setup.
Do you still need help ?
Regards
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Andreas,

still moaning...., yes, it is Manual page 25-9.
How to digest all these humiliations ?
OK, OK, reading the manual !

BTW, I resolved all the problems, including IR printing to the
HP6MP. SERCTL gave me the clue, together with a message from
Longden that made me download LXSTAT. With this I power up the
Com1 and the IR Port, which, in fact, was the main problem.

Thanks again and best regards
Winfried

> Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> > How/where to find SERCTL ?
>
> What about d:\bin\serctl.com? I believe it is described in the HP200LX
> manual.
>
> Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:21:41 +0200
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Hi all,

this is to tell you that, with your help, I have been able to
solve this printing problem. I feel a bit badly about having
used so much bandwidth for such a simple and basic question
(which I could have answered reading the 200LX Manual, the
DOS MicroRef from Thaddeus and the SUPER list more
attentively) and I appreciate the patience with which the
List as a whole has let me ramble about it.

The problem was simply to power the ports up (COM1 and IR). I
have put the following commands into the WORD Work Area of SC:

c:\
lxstat S W (powers the Com1 port up),
lxstat S I (powers the IR port up),
d:\dos\mode com1:96,N,8,1,p (sets the Com1 parameters),
d:\dos\mode lpt1:=3Dcom1: (reroutes output to Com1),
cd \word (or PE),
word (or PE).

For cable-linked printers powering the Com1 port up is
sufficient, the other three commands are for IR printing.
(Stefan, still experimenting with LXPRO to save power by
powering the ports according to need).

This is a great list !
Regards
Winfried

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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> How to digest all these humiliations ?
> OK, OK, reading the manual !

LOL!

I guess reading the "manual" almost always works, but which manual and
where in the manual to look? If you think about it: almost all wisdom
humankind gathered so far can be found in the books in the public
libraries. You "only" have to read all these books and memorise
everything you read. :-)

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Does anybody know a piece of software that runs on the palmtop and
allows to print a JPEG image on a connected printer (preferably a
Pentax Pocketjet) as a full page image (i.e. as big as possible with as
good a resolution as possible) while maintaining a correct aspect ratio?

So the software should be able to decode a JPEG, scale it to the
maximum printer resolution, dither it to black and white and create
code that can be printed using a PocketJet.

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I get an "Invalid media type" error when i try to access my new FLASH card
is this because i fdisked it in a pc ? (whoops) can somebody help or point
out what i should do ?
I have a 100LX

Regards Ole A. Torvmark

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Are you using the acecard driver? You need that for flashcards to work on the 100LX.

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> I get an "Invalid media type" error when i try to access my new FLASH card
> is this because i fdisked it in a pc ? (whoops) can somebody help or point
> out what i should do ?
> I have a 100LX

After Fdisk, the card must be formatted.  Either format from Filer or
use the format program on the internal d: drive.

BUT ....  The HP100 has been known to have some problems with some newer
cards which can be solved by a version of Acecard driver (Ace is no
longer in business so finding the driver can be hard, if not impossible)

good luck

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What was it fdisked under? W95/98 w/FAT32?

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Ole Andreas Torvmark wrote:

> I get an "Invalid media type" error when i try to access my new FLASH card
> is this because i fdisked it in a pc ? (whoops) can somebody help or point
> out what i should do ?
> I have a 100LX
>
> Regards Ole A. Torvmark
>
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Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:07:50 -0500 (EST)

Hey David & David & All

12h30m22s ago ...
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, David Kramer wrote:
>
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I've
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> > undelivered mail to me...
> I got the same message, and was unsubscribed.  Al, what's the deal?  =
Does
> the list require that you re-subscribe every year or something?

        Tes indeed, the list is set up to have confirm your
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Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

The program launches and the following text displays when I initiate a
connect:

CHAP authentication failed

Do I need to prepare a script?
If so, are there any AT&T Worldnet subscribers out there who have scripts
that would work with a local number?  AT&T's  800 number?


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Al Creswell & List,


My ISP uses CHAP and the below script worked great with GP, just do a cut &
paste and name it CHAP.SCR. Then go back into GP and set the path for it.


DELAY 1.5
SEND ""
EXPECT "ogin" IN 15
SEND LOGIN
EXPECT "ssword" IN 15
SEND PASSWORD
SEND "PPP"



HTH




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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:15:57 -0400
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I thought the HP 100LX *was* a PC?! ;¬)

Sorry, couldn't resist...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ole Andreas Torvmark <eldorko@INVALID.ED.NTNU.NO>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 10:54 AM
Subject: HP100LX


>I get an "Invalid media type" error when i try to access my new FLASH card
>is this because i fdisked it in a pc ? (whoops) can somebody help or point
>out what i should do ?
>I have a 100LX
>
>Regards Ole A. Torvmark
>
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>
>

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   >I have sucessfully finished the WORD Setup.
   >Do you still need help ?


I haven't tried printing for quite a while, but maybe
I'll give it a shot this weekend. I'll document
everything I do and see what happens. Thanks for the
offer.


n.


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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:51:02 +0200
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>I don't believe this will run
>on the palmtop, although I may be wrong.

It runs very nice and fast on my LX.

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>The requirements on the box didn't specify any processor limitations nor
>did it require protected memory.  It just required DOS 3.3 or higher, 640k
>memory and EMS (LIM 4.0), all of which is literally "at hand".

It doesn't really require EMS.

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>Attributes I could come up with so far are the following:
>
>important/not important
>urgent/not urgent
>work intensive/not work intensive

This the right way!

>And now I am searching for more attributes, more rules, better rules,

less is more ...


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>Alternatively, if anyone can recommend a better text manipulation tool
that
>would do they job I would be interested.   Thanks in advance.
>
>Leon Phillips

  I can't say whether the DOS freeware "CHANGE" utility is better, but it
appears that it might be easier to use and understand.

  I'm sorry to say that I don't remember where I found this utility on
the internet. The version I found had the filename, "chang903.zip. It's
docs say that the file naming syntax is "CHANGymm.ZIP", so that clue
might help in locating it.

  Here some info on the author given in it's docs, just in case you are
not able to find it on the internet.:

Bruce Guthrie
Room H-4885
U.S. Dept of Commerce/ESA/STAT-USA
Washington, DC 20230

voice: (202) 482-3234
e-mail: bguthrie@doc.gov

  If you do try it and find it useful, please let us know. :-)

  Good Luck,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Wouldn't PERL make it easy?

Leon Phillips wrote:
>
> I am trying to manipulate a Quicken Interchange Format file (.QIF) to make it
> more useful when I import it into Pocket Quicken.   The .QIF file in question
> has been downloaded from my banks internet site and it presents the data as
> follows:
>
> !Type:CCard
> D07/13/99
> T75.00
> P31931020123
> MPAYMENT - THANK YOU
> ¬
> D07/07/99
> T-177.90
> P74940529123
> PJIM MURPHY MARKET CELL   FYSHWICK     AU
> ¬
> D06/29/99
> T-65.34
> P74541839123
> MWEITNAUER S'PORE-#022-29CSINGAPORE    SG FRGN          72.00SINGAPORE DOLLAR
> ¬
> D06/28/99
> T-178.73
> P24229709123
> MDOUBLETREE HOTELS PARK T WASHINGTON   DC FRGN         115.65US DOLLAR
> ¬
>
> For those who understand the .QIF format you can see that the Payee line
> (starting with 'P') shows a transaction reference number that I am not
> interested in while the Memo Line (starting with an 'M') shows all the
> infromation that I am interested in.   What I am trying to do is:
> 1. delete the 'P' line
> 2. break up the 'M' line so that the first 25 characters appear on a 'P' line
> while the remainder stay on the 'M' line.   Taking the last transaction as an
> example, the before and after should look like:
>
> Before:
>
> D06/28/99
> T-178.73
> P24229709123
> MDOUBLETREE HOTELS PARK T WASHINGTON   DC FRGN         115.65US DOLLAR
>
> After:
>
> D06/28/99
> T-178.73
> PDOUBLETREE HOTELS PARK T
> MWASHINGTON   DC FRGN         115.65US DOLLAR
>
> To try and do this I have started using SED downloaded from the SUPER site and
> so far I can only delete the 'P' line and turn the 'M' line into a 'P' line but
> I can't break it up.   I can't quite understand the intricacies of the SED
> documentation to do this and so I ask any experts out there if they could help
> me on this one.   My current SED script file is as follows:
>
> s/¬P/P/g        (If line starts with P replace with P)
> Tabc            (If any replaces havent happened, jump to abc)
> d               (delete current line (ie. old P line))
> :abc
> s/¬M/P/g        (replace M at line start with P)
>
> Alternatively, if anyone can recommend a better text manipulation tool that
> would do they job I would be interested.   Thanks in advance.
>
> Leon Phillips
>
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Hi all,

  Just wondering if anyone has checked out all of the alternate fonts
that are in the fontstuf archive for readability. I'm currently using the
andrew font. Does anyone know if any of the other alternate same size
fonts are easier to read than the andrew font?

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hi Longden

Sunday, July 25, 1999, you wrote to me:

LL>    >If I type *ticket numbers* in column A, and a short text description
LL>    >in column B, how do I get the text to follow it's ticket number
LL>    >when I sort the A column?
LL> Message-Id: <19990725130840.SUCZ5731@İ12.72.161.122¨>
LL> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:08:40 +0000

LL> 123 is somewhat unique in that it doesn't expect each row to be fully
LL> linked, hence sorting one column doesn't automatically sort the others on
LL> the row.

LL> You have to define the affected area (ie, data and sort keys) using the
LL> /DataSortRange (or something like that...sorry, I can't get to my LX right
LL> now without waking everyone). Highlight all the cells that are affected by
LL> the sort, including all rows in columns A and B.

LL> The notion was that a single spreadsheet might have little mini-tables
LL> scattered all about and you wouldn't want those other tables accidentally
LL> sorted if they happened to be on the same row...this was a concept that
LL> predated having multiple spreadsheets with linking.

LL> - Longden

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Thank you Longden. I appreciate your help. Sorry it took me so long to
get back to you.

Sincerely,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Hi Steve

Sunday, July 25, 1999, you wrote to me:

>> If I type *ticket numbers* in column A, and a short text description
>> in column B, how do I get the text to follow it's ticket number when I
>> sort the A column?

SC> Put in the numbers and text you need.  You might try this on a
SC> small practice spreadsheet until you have it going smoothly.
SC> Now type/select Menu Data Sort Data-Range.  Press Esc if there
SC> is more than one cell highlighted.  Now move to the top of your
SC> number column and press the period key.  Now move the cursor to
SC> the bottom of your text column.  You should have all of both
SC> columns highlighted now.  Press Enter (this tells 123 that the
SC> two columns are a group, not seperate).  You could also give
SC> these columns a range name to show 123 that they are a group
SC> and then put that range name into the Data-Range.  Now select
SC> Primary-key and highlight the top of your number column and
SC> press Enter.  Now choose Ascending or Descending.  This tells
SC> 123 to sort based on this column.  Now press G for Go and it
SC> should all be sorted.

SC> Steve Carder

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Thank you Steve. This worked liked a charm.

Sincerely,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:06:30 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fontstuf.zip on SUPER
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In a message dated 7/31/1999 05:39:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM writes:

> Does anyone know if any of the other alternate same size
>  fonts are easier to read than the andrew font?

Try jinifont.com. I prefer it to Andrew.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:50:57 -0700
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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:

> > Does anyone know if any of the other alternate same size
> >  fonts are easier to read than the andrew font?
>
> Try jinifont.com. I prefer it to Andrew.

I prefer i810.com, but that's may not be public yet.  Anybody who's ever
used m.fnt on a Linux machine will recognize it.  It has the distinct
advantage of italicizing the numerals, so that you can instantly tell the
difference between a capital O and the number 0, or the letter l an the
number 1, for example, which can be tricky in 80x25 modes.

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:15:54 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: İFwd: Your removal from the HPLX-L list¨
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In a message dated 7/31/1999 12:24:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU writes:

>  Didn't you guys receive
>          a request to continue HPLX-L subscription?
Al,  I've never had either a request to continue notice, or an involuntary
separation.  I've been here as long as you've had the list.

Just a data point.

Lynn

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:15:28 -0700
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