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Hi,

My HP palmtop 200 lx freeze. It refuses to accept any command. What is the
best solution to reactivate it without loosing info?

Al-Khars



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Date:         Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:26:33 -0800
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While holding the Control and Left shift keys down, press the On key. Press
the "n" key followed by the Enter key in response to the RAM disk
initialization query, otherwise you'll lose your data.

Larry Mittell

At 09:52 PM 3/31/2002, I Al-Khars wrote:
>Hi,
>
>My HP palmtop 200 lx freeze. It refuses to accept any command. What is the
>best solution to reactivate it without loosing info?
>
>Al-Khars

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 00:25:03 +0200
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              (including 95LX thingies):
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While holding on to my 6 personal LX systems (200LX DS  5MB, SS 6MB, 2*SS
2MB, 700LX - experimenting system/museum piece, 95LX - beauty just for
fun, ), I have available for sale the following systems, parts and
accessories:

6 times 200LX, single speed, UK or US, no missing screen lines:

- one  (1) boxed MINT 2MB, torn box, checked and tested by me
but -apparently- unused.
- two (2) each of good 2MB (good screen, minimal hairline hinge crack -
pre-reinforced for safety)
- three (3) each of hinge crack (very well) glued 2MB - guaranteed on
general working and screen, but not on recurrence of hinge crack.

- one (1) times  200LX 1 MB, screen reasonably guaranteed unrepairable (
someone cut the screens 'zebra cable', and about 8 horizontal lines are
missing,(somewhere at horizontal line 140-150) but excellent contrast for
the rest. Hinge crack glued. Perfect for embedded system ;-).

- nine (9) 200LX User Guides, most of them unused
- six (6) Quick Start Guides

Software (original diskettes plus manual):

- two (2) 200LX Connectivity kit
- one (1) Intellilink for Windows

Cables plus adapters

- five (5)    200LX serial port cables
- four (4)  5181-6640 printer adapters for above
- two (2)  5181-6641 9->25 pins adapter
- one (1) 5181-6642 modem adapter

Power supply:

- three (3) standard F1011A #ABB 100-240V European AC adapter

Parts:

- three (3) bottoms for 200LX

Sundry:

- one (1) JetEye ESI9500A IR to printer adapter
- one (1) SP-1000 Serial to Parallell adapter
- some ten (10) serial Pentax printer cables

Make me a bid on any or all - reach either my hidden reserve or my patience
treshhold and it is yours! Don't ask - make me an offer.
For those with more patience than money: I'll repost with prices in a week
or two for the remaining parts.

And for those with sufficient stamina to read until here:

Still available five (5) of the small adapters to convert a 200LX cable to a
95LX cable: These are still priced at 1 picture postcard from your area each
( this includes shipping!)!


Conditions:

Payment by Paypal or Direct Bank Transfer ( \berweisung, Giro, etc) -
cheques are too much of a hassle. Shipping to EU insured is about 30 Euro
for a 200LX, USD35 to the rest of the world for a non-mailbox package. If
the order fits in an envelope, it is a lot cheaper!! (Insurance or weight
doesn't add much to cost, but size does!.)

Michel

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:55:44 +0200
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I found a external pocket modem 9600bps with power input from PC
keyboard via DIN5 gender and cable to modem in the middle of the
gender...Power +5V...
But when I pushed into PC fm DIN5, I cut the ground line (near the
gender somewhere)...
Anyhow I want to use the cable (the good part) to connect it to 4
baterries (I have the box for it's serial connection) with the modem.
But NiMH baterries will give 4.8V and nonrechargable will give 6V...
Can I use some of them when the nominal input is 5V?
TIA
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hi Stanley,

On 31 Mar 2002 at 20:59, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

>
> I also understand that a 10.5 volt supply would most likely
> work fine.  But at the lower voltage (than the nominal 12
> volts), the power supply conversion circuits inside the palmtop
> have to draw more current at that lower voltage and could
> therefore run hotter.

no - the opposite is true.
The voltage regulator needs a minimum voltage to work properly. All
above has to be innihilated and makes the circuit hotter.
A switching power supply works as you described - but there is no
switcher inside the HP200.

>
> Also, HP's own AC power adapter puts out 12 volts, so I read
> that as an indication that 12 volts is the best to give to the
> 100/200LX.  I have been using HP's regulated 12 volt adapters
> for many years - since my first 100LX one month after they were
> introduced - and have never had a problem.
>

12 V is good because it is in the middle of the voltage
specifications. The user can be sure that the voltage could drop or
rise a little and all will work. From the viewpoint of producing heat
a voltage near the lower limit of the specifications would be better.

cheers,
Werner


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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:40:21 +0200
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Bob,

 > ACCIS starts, dials, connects.  "Logging onto compuserve".  Then I =
keep
 > getting "Incorrect User ID or Password" error message.  I have even
 > entered the password manually into the ACCIS configuration file.  So,
 > something must be wrong with the script?

As far as I know the login procedure hasn't changed recently. If you
dial into a regular Compuserve node the standard "CompuServe" script
which comes with acCIS should work fine.

But you should never change the password by editing the acCIS
configuration file directly, as the password is stored encrypted.
Instead, use the acCIS setup program and enter your new password
there.

Thomas

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Oliver and Daniel,

 > What you _also_ have on the case plastic are these little stars (left
 > of the left hinge, for example). Mine is a SG60... unit, that seems to
 > mean that mine is really an early machine (beginning of 1996) and only
 > three weeks later they produced them without this decoration.
 > How about other 700LX owners? Do you have this world map on the
 > keyboard frame? What are the serial numbers of your machines?

Actually, I have never seen an OmniGo 700LX without the embossed
"World" picture except for a very early prototype. I wonder why
Oliver's machine doesn't have that. Perhaps he got one of the
preproduction prototypes?

Thomas

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Hi,

try www.netsol.com, as far as I remember they have an option to pay
by check.

Best regards,

 Thomas
 http://www.rundel.net


 > Hi Daniel, Bob, Bob, Avi, Stefan, Russel, Nathalie, and all
 > others  !
 >
 > what is the best way to register a .com domain name ?
 >
 > important : this to be done without credit card .. thru bank
 > transfer only
 >
 > we don't have on line validated credit cards rampantly
 > available in india !
 >
 > ..pk
 >
 > (also other opinions .. pricing, reliability, features, page
 > hosting, webspace ..)
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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 00:52:49 -0500, I Al-Khars <ialkhars@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> My HP palmtop 200 lx freeze. It refuses to accept any command. What is the
> best solution to reactivate it without loosing info?

Either Ctrl-Alt-Del (the standard warm boot), or if it doesn't react on
this, try Ctrl-Shift-On (left shift key) and answer "n" when it asks if
the C: drive should be initialized.

If it doesn't ask, you could not have saved your data anyway.

Good luck!

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 05:37:47 -0800
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:36:59 -0500, Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Yeah, whatever. The original message was dated Sept 10. Where you
> specifically searching for messages authored by me so you express
> disapproval of my statements?

Actually not, and I'm sorry you feel that way. Sometimes I get
far behind in reading messages on this list (as I am now).
Since I have POST/LX sort messages by subject, messages that
have subjects that start later in the alphabet sometimes do
not get read right away. I usually don't reply to very old
messages, but some do seem to be worth a reply, even after 3
or four months, if I don't see an appropriate response.

I am working to catch up and hope to be able stay current in
the future.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:01:15 -0500
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Hi

We can register your Domain name including Website & E-mail forwarding
services accepting money order. Visit http://www.mediaim.com for more
information. The site is in spanish. An english version can be found at
http://www.mediaim.co.uk but the domain name registrations section is in
translation process. I think it will be on-line this night.

Anyway if you need more help just contact me: amusse@mediaim.com



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 > Hi Daniel, Bob, Bob, Avi, Stefan, Russel, Nathalie, and all
 > others  !
 >
 > what is the best way to register a .com domain name ?
 >
 > important : this to be done without credit card .. thru bank
 > transfer only
 >
 > we don't have on line validated credit cards rampantly
 > available in india !
 >
 > ..pk
 >
 > (also other opinions .. pricing, reliability, features, page
 > hosting, webspace ..)
 >
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:32:54 +0200
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Tony,

I am using your clock V8.3 and I wonder what surprises will come in
future, it is a wonderful program with many features!

Last weekend (night from saturday to sunday to be exact) Europe changed
to DST. My palmtop changed it's internal clock after having launched
Worldtime (I guess the info was taken from my c:\_dat\timezone.dat,
which is almost the same as your dst.dat, where you added NZ).

Now after the palmtop's internal clock has been changed to DST, clocks
displays the time with 1 hour in advance, i.e. if we have 1pm, clocks
shows 2pm. This is valid for all timezones, incl. Wellington (at least
according to Worldtime). All timezones are shown 1 hour ahead!

I don't use the macro with worldtime, I just started the myclocks.bat
file of your package and set Zurich to local time (with Shift-c).

What am I doing wrong?

Regards / Josef

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> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:10:48 -0600, Tim Kelley <tpkelley@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > Ok, it appears that you have to go from day to day to see the completed
> > items.  I was thinking that there might be a way to see all the tasks that
> > were accomplished in one fell swoop.
> > Yes I was talking about the appointment book.
> > Tim

If you don't want to add another application to your LX, you
could make a SmartClip that copies the completed ToDo item and
then you can paste it on to the end of a text file, perhaps
called COMPLETE.TXT, using Memo. This is how I track
non-recurring completed ToDos. Depending how many items you
have, you can have one file, or one per year, or one per month,
or, if you are a VERY busy person, perhaps one per week <G>

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:58:38 +0530
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hello thomas
gee thanks a ton
will chek it out

..pk

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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:11 PM
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Hi,

try www.netsol.com, as far as I remember they have an option
to pay
by check.

Best regards,

 Thomas
 http://www.rundel.net


 > Hi Daniel, Bob, Bob, Avi, Stefan, Russel, Nathalie, and
all
 > others  !
 >
 > what is the best way to register a .com domain name ?
 >
 > important : this to be done without credit card .. thru
bank
 > transfer only
 >
 > we don't have on line validated credit cards rampantly
 > available in india !
 >
 > ..pk
 >
 > (also other opinions .. pricing, reliability, features,
page
 > hosting, webspace ..)
 >
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:31:25 +0530
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hello alfredo
thanks
will check out in a day or two later

..pk

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From: "Alfredo Musse T." <amusse@MEDIAIM.COM>
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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:31 PM
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> Hi
>
> We can register your Domain name including Website &
E-mail forwarding
> services accepting money order. Visit
http://www.mediaim.com for more
> information. The site is in spanish. An english version
can be found at
> http://www.mediaim.co.uk but the domain name registrations
section is in
> translation process. I think it will be on-line this
night.
>
> Anyway if you need more help just contact me:
amusse@mediaim.com
>
>
>
> Alfredo Musse T.
> media improvement - solutions for the digital world
> Tel. (511) 562-0216
> amusse@mediaim.com
> http://www.mediaim.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  > Hi Daniel, Bob, Bob, Avi, Stefan, Russel, Nathalie, and
all
>  > others  !
>  >
>  > what is the best way to register a .com domain name ?
>  >
>  > important : this to be done without credit card .. thru
bank
>  > transfer only
>  >
>  > we don't have on line validated credit cards rampantly
>  > available in india !
>  >
>  > ..pk
>  >
>  > (also other opinions .. pricing, reliability, features,
page
>  > hosting, webspace ..)
>  >
>  > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at
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>
>

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:17:49 +0200
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> Played with Datacomm briefly the other day but couldn't
> remember the bit/parity thing.

Ah, but you forgot the nice things about our favorite machine:
Conpuserve.dcf is provided in ROM, the script template isn't but that's
printed in the handbook of if you prefer here:

-----------------------------------
~
{ame:}
CIS
{ID:}
117112,2343
{ord:}
WOULDNTYOU LIKETOKNOW
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> But you were talking about fooling around with a
> regulated variable output power supply and using 10.5
> volts and having some troubles.  I was trying to suggest
> that you use the nominal spec.

No, that was me. I have now found a nominal 12 V supply with the correct
plug and polarity already fitted ans can discard the unit that came with
the HP from the previous owner. But still, that malfunction isn't the
correct way for the unit to react and even if another supply will hopefully
not trigger it there is something not quite rigt and might get worse, so
I'd prefer knowing what it is.
When it happens the internal meter reads far too low a voltage and (I
presume as a result) drives the screen completely black. Driving the
contrast setting to the very limit very slightly ameliorates it but it
stays unreadable.

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> but there is no switcher inside the HP200.

Are you quite sure? I believe there is.

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Stan,

> I have personally upgraded (meaning I have soldered in the
> crystal myself) several 100LX and 200LX palmtops for myself and
> others and have never noticed a difference in the screen
> contrast before and after the surgery.

I agree it is not the upgrade that changed the contrast of the
screen. HP made changes to the display between 1995 and 1997.

WEB

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:23:22 -0500
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Hello, all:
Anydbody used QCP2760 (QualComm's three mode CDMA cellphone) as a modem to
200lx?
I went to the BellWorld (my mobile phone severce provider), and
could't find the cable. Then I went to the cellphone maker's website
(QualComm has sold its phone plant to Kyocera), they did have accessories
including cable to palm PCs and laptops, but they are for PalmII or III
not HP palm top. I asked the tech help, they don't seem to know the
hplx. I am asking any of you who know where to find the cable or how to
connect 200lx to QCP2760.

Bing

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 22:14:59 +0200
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Just a note: If you want to use a charger for at home as an LX or OB
charger:

Get hold of any old PC power supply... They supply at least 12V at 3Amps.
Solder a plug to any of the 12V outlets...
Put in a nice wooden box - presto - a $5 or less  switched regulated 12V
supply ( plus 5 volts etc....)
I use a supply from an old internet switch - just fits into one of those
olde Compaq plastic disk holders...

Michel

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> Sometimes I get far behind in reading messages

May I add a little niggle (and I try to keep it short) and a request to
everyone finding it at all possible:
You have not replied privately but to the group, who after a long time are
bound not to remember what you're on about. If there was a RID
("reference") in your header, and in that of the mail you replied to, and
..., then using a halfway decent reader I could just thread my way back
message by message and take a look at what began all this. As it is I can't
and just have to ask myself, why you did not just mail.
So do please, please use RIDs and mailers that can corrctly use them (which
reminds me, I haven't yet checked if Going postal does.)

Danke
        Axel

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:12:44 +0200
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Ouch on the german throat disease...

Then french must be like when you try to talk with a mouth full of peanut
butter?

ROFL

Donald Klopper

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:17:40 +1200
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Tue,  2 Apr 2002 08:59:46 +1200 (NZT)

06h26m52s ago ...
On Mon,  1 Apr 2002 16:32:54 +0200, Josef Meyer wrote:

> I am using your clock V8.3 and I wonder what surprises will
> come in future, it is a wonderful program with many features!

Thanks Josef!

It has even surprised me<G>.

> I don't use the macro with worldtime, I just started the
> myclocks.bat file of your package and set Zurich to local
> time (with Shift-c).

I just tried this here too. Shift+X z ENTER and then Shift+C
and sure enough Zurich was showing time one hour ahead of my
palmtop system time!!

> What am I doing wrong?

Absolutely nothing! It was a bad, original untouched bug!!!!
Part of the code I never looked at since. The local DST could
get overwritten when looking to equinoxes/solstices and moon
phases! Now fixed. But the moon position calculation can be
improved further.

Many thanks for the report!

8.4 is uploaded.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:07:16 +0200
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From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>

[...]

> A switching power supply works as you described - but there is no
> switcher inside the HP200.
[...]

I'm sorry, but inside HP200Lx IS a switching power supply and also have
step-up and step-down functions. Inside HP200LX you can find 3.3; 5; 12; -12
and -5 volts as you can get from an ATX power supply (but not capable to
shrink those high currents that desktops needs!).

And current load have same switching noise when using batteries as using AC
adapter (my oscilloscope says this...). More when using an CF card that
draws more current (Sandisk 8Mb have no change on battery life, but memorex
64Mb minus 20% battery life). And this its more visible when charging...
Seems to have an switching power supply!

P.D.: Sorry, but by an error I sent it also in private.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:34:57 -0700
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What is your favorite online currency exchange calculator
for simplicity, speed and up-to-date?

Bob
--
R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY
http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   His name...  Isaiah 9:6

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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 22:55:51 +0200, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:

> If there was a RID
> ("reference") in your header, and in that of the mail you replied to, and
> ..., then using a halfway decent reader I could just thread my way back
> message by message and take a look at what began all this. As it is I can't
> and just have to ask myself, why you did not just mail.
> So do please, please use RIDs and mailers that can corrctly use them (which
> reminds me, I haven't yet checked if Going postal does.)

Well, I am using WWW/LX and POST/LX. And, I think I am using
all the information about the message that POST/LX provides.
Are you saying that POST/LX is not a "decent" mailer ?  If so,
I think you should take that up with the author. I believe
that POST/LX has always been accepted as a suitable reader
and mailer for this group.

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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:23:22 -0500, Bing <bxu2@UWO.CA> wrote:

> I am asking any of you who know where to find the cable or how to
> connect 200lx to QCP2760.

I am not familiar with this phone, but you said they had a
cable to connect the phone to a standard laptop. You can use
that cable with the standard LX-to-PC serial cable and a null
modem adapter. That is how I connect my Motorola Startac phone
to my LX. You will not find a phone-to-LX cable because the L
is an officially an "obsolete" machine.

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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:55:44 +0200, Zoran Vignjevic <zoranv@GOV.YU> wrote:

> I found a external pocket modem 9600bps with power input from PC
> keyboard via DIN5 gender and cable to modem in the middle of the
> gender...Power +5V...


> But NiMH baterries will give 4.8V and nonrechargable will give 6V...
> Can I use some of them when the nominal input is 5V?

4.8 volts should be close enough to 5.0 volts. If not, you can
use four 1.5 volt cells and a voltage regulator to drop the
voltage to 5 volts.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:28:54 -0500
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Hello Everyone,

I am totally new to the HP-200 LX.  I just won one on eBay, though it =
will be a while before I receive it, I am trying to prepare.  I have =
downloaded and read the User's Guide PDF file, but have a couple =
questions.

My main question is regarding PCMCIA usage.  I have some Sandisk Compact =
Flash cards and a Sandisk PCMCIA / CF adaptor.  My CF cards are 8MB and =
20MB in size.  Can I plug them in and use them on the HP200LX so they =
appear as my A:\ drive, as the manual discusses for memory cards?

If the answer is 'Yes' then my second question is, can I then load =
applications from my laptop onto the flash card, then plug it in the =
Palmtop and run them?

And my last question is, what are the good websites for information and =
files for the palmtop?  I have found www.hplx.net, and www.palmtop.net =
but as of tonight there is a message on palmtop.net that it and Super =
are history.

Thank you!

Stephanie Maks
Brampton, Ontario, Canada

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:52:23 +0800
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Is this true?
I hope it is just a joke on 1st of April.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:57:35 -0700
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> My main question is regarding PCMCIA usage.  I have some
> Sandisk Compact Flash cards and a Sandisk PCMCIA / CF
> adaptor.  My CF cards are 8MB and 20MB in size.  Can I plug
> them in and use them on the HP200LX so they appear as my A:\
> drive, as the manual discusses for memory cards?

Yes. Sometimes they might require reformatting, but sandisk is a
good choice.

> If the answer is 'Yes' then my second question is, can I
> then load applications from my laptop onto the flash card,
> then plug it in the Palmtop and run them?

In general, yes, as long as they run with DOS on an 80186 with
cga.


> And my last question is, what are the good websites for
> information and files for the palmtop?  I have found
> www.hplx.net, and www.palmtop.net but as of tonight there is
> a message on palmtop.net that it and Super are history.

Well, if this is not an April fool's joke, I offer to host
palmtop.net and SUPER

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:01:11 -0600
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Welcome to the list.

Another good site is www.palmtoppaper.net.

I have a Sandisk compact flash and PCMCIA adapter in my 200lx
and use it all the time to transer files from my laptop and my
desktop, which also has a card reader.

Barry


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Subject: Newbie Alert


Hello Everyone,

I am totally new to the HP-200 LX.  I just won one on eBay,
though it will be a while before I receive it, I am trying to
prepare.  I have downloaded and read the User's Guide PDF file,
but have a couple questions.

My main question is regarding PCMCIA usage.  I have some Sandisk
Compact Flash cards and a Sandisk PCMCIA / CF adaptor.  My CF
cards are 8MB and 20MB in size.  Can I plug them in and use them
on the HP200LX so they appear as my A:\ drive, as the manual
discusses for memory cards?

If the answer is 'Yes' then my second question is, can I then
load applications from my laptop onto the flash card, then plug
it in the Palmtop and run them?

And my last question is, what are the good websites for
information and files for the palmtop?  I have found
www.hplx.net, and www.palmtop.net but as of tonight there is a
message on palmtop.net that it and Super are history.

Thank you!

Stephanie Maks
Brampton, Ontario, Canada

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 03:14:58 +0000
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> HP,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  You gave me an idea.  I tried just getting email
> AND just getting to the Palmtop forum.  Neither worked.  The problem
> seems to appear before that.
>
> When trying to log on I can't even get in the door.  Get:"Connecting to
> Compuserve Network"
>                                                          "Logging onto Compuserve . . .
>                                                          "Incorrect User ID or password"

Accis codes the password - you cannot just enter it into the cfg file.

You possibly need to run accsetup???

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> HP,
>
> When you call CSI all they will do is provide you will another new
> password.  I have done this 4 times with 4 different NEW passwords to no

Forget this password stuff - I want to know what phone number you used
to call and actually get a real person on CIS to help!!!!!!!!!!!! (G)

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:03:15 +1200
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I think it's a joke. Try this and search:

http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

Cheers...Roger

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:54:21 +0800
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At 04:03 PM 4/2/02 +1200, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
 >I think it's a joke. Try this and search:
 >
 >http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
 >
 >Cheers...Roger
 >

Above URL "Not Found".


On http://www.palmtop.net/, there is the following message:-

"Due to a lack interest, as well as lack of financial support, palmtop.net
and SUPER will no longer be available. We apologize for the inconvenience."

Is this an April Fool's joke ?

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 08:01:17 +0200
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I measured after few seconds when card was not acessed. LXCIC called from C: said that card is not powered.
But I measured the values below. This is strange. Can anybody try the same?


Radek






                      Stefan Peichl
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                      2002-03-29 02:07
                      PM
                      Please respond
                      to Stefan.Peichl






Radek Svagr wrote:

> Switched ON without any card inserted - 40mA
> Switched ON with CF Transcend 128MB - 100mA
> Switched ON with CF Sundisk 10MB - 120 mA
> Switched ON with PCMCIA HP Flashcard 10MB /Sundisk/ - 40mA!!!

Did you always wait for 2-3 seconds after power on before
measuring the voltage? At least the Sundisk cards should
power down by themselves after some seconds (my 96 MB CF card
does). LXCIC/S can also tell you, if your card powered down.

Access the card and call immediately LXCIC/S. It will tell you
"Card powered". Then wait for 2 seconds and call LXCIC/S again.
My Sundisk CF now reports "Card power down".

Indeed you have to run LXCIC from your C: drive and your path
should have no A: references, otherwise loading LXCIC from the
card or searching the card would always power it on.

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I measured on battery terminlas.


Radek




                      Axel Berger
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> I measured a power consumption of my DS 5MB 200lx.

Did you use the battery terminals for more relavant data or the supply
jack, which I might prefer to do for being much easier?

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hi Axel,

Axel Berger schrieb =FCber Re: AW: charging system:

> > but there is no switcher inside the HP200.
>=20
> Are you quite sure? I believe there is.
>=20
no, I am not sure. I tested the current draw with different=20
voltages of the supply and found that current is pretty constant=20
between 9.5 and 14.5 V from the supply. If the voltage reglulator=20
is an SPS I expected higher current with lower voltage, but that is=20
not the case.=20
But I did not study the HP's bowel so I might be wrong.

Werner=20


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I just tried it.  Ugggh 404 error aaaaahhgghgh!!!! Panic stations!!!!

> Date: Tue 2-Apr-2002 16:03
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu (Tony Kan)
> From: lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM (Roger Whitmarsh)
> Subject: SUPER Gone??
>
> I think it's a joke. Try this and search:
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
>
> Cheers...Roger
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> I just tried it.  Ugggh 404 error aaaaahhgghgh!!!! Panic stations!!!!
>
> > I think it's a joke. Try this and search:
> >
> > http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

If it is a joke, I don't find it that funny. If it's not, then I
am willing to host super/palmtop.net on my system. Super is a
resource that should not be lost.

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Hello All,

A late thank you to everyone who replied to my query on using 200LX to write
and access email with a DSL connection. Looking at the times you responded,
I realized you answered almost instantaneously. Thanks a lot.

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Is this possibleat 2MB 200lx?
http://www.komaromi.com/dos_email/
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Just tried it and it is up and running with no message that it is history.
www.palmtop.net

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Mike and others,

Works just fine for me.  Dunno about jokes, etc. but I logged on to
S.U.P.E.R. this morning with no difficulties. Actually, I logged on
yesterday (4/1)with my 200LX & WWW/LX with no problems.

Continued thanks to the page provider.

Best,

Bill

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> I just tried it.  Ugggh 404 error aaaaahhgghgh!!!! Panic stations!!!!
>
> > I think it's a joke. Try this and search:
> >
> > http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

If it is a joke, I don't find it that funny. If it's not, then I
am willing to host super/palmtop.net on my system. Super is a
resource that should not be lost.

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I've used the QCP860 as a modem to the 200lx before.. the 860 is the 2760's
little
brother.  I just took the Kyocera "Data Cable" that you can get from
Kyocera's web site
and the 200lx data cable and hooked them together.  I don't remember if I
used the null modem
that came with the kyocera's cable or not.  The easiest thing to do is hook
them together
and then use datacomm to send a few "AT" commands to see if they're
communicating.

Note: The 860 and 2760 use the same cable... my wife has a 2760 and she's
used my cable
with her laptop.  The 2760 has a max speed of 14.4 kbaud.

If you have more questions... I can go hook them back up again and
walk you through it.

Christopher.


At 03:23 PM 4/1/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello, all:
>Anydbody used QCP2760 (QualComm's three mode CDMA cellphone) as a modem to
>200lx?
>I went to the BellWorld (my mobile phone severce provider), and
>could't find the cable. Then I went to the cellphone maker's website
>(QualComm has sold its phone plant to Kyocera), they did have accessories
>including cable to palm PCs and laptops, but they are for PalmII or III
>not HP palm top. I asked the tech help, they don't seem to know the
>hplx. I am asking any of you who know where to find the cable or how to
>connect 200lx to QCP2760.
>
>Bing
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Hi Michel

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 22:14:59 +0200, Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL> wrote:

> Get hold of any old PC power supply... They supply at least 12V at 3Amps.
> Solder a plug to any of the 12V outlets...
> Put in a nice wooden box - presto - a $5 or less  switched regulated 12V
> supply ( plus 5 volts etc....)

What a wonderful idea!
Maybe if only 2 200LXs and an Omnibook 800CT are connected, the current
needed is so small that the fan of the power supply can be switched off
without danger of overheating the thing?

12V @ 3A seems a bit low, since the PC power supplies are rated at
150-200W (newer even 250W). Is the power you can suck from them divided
over the different voltage outlets?

If not, even almost 20A should be possible at a 12V line...

The OB800 power supply is rated at 3.3A, the palmtop power supply
0.75A. So for an OB and a palmtop you would need never more than abt.
4A.

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Hi Tamas

On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:21:26 +0100, Tamas Feher <etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU> wrote:

> The LX now seems to be dead, the only sign I got was two short
> beeps when I plugged in the wall adapter and even this did not
> repeat. I managed to put the screen rod into alignment with the
> base unit by pressing firmly, but it did not help. I took the machine
> apart, but I cannot see anything suspicious.
>
> Maybe the keyboard is damaged (including the ON key) or the
> screen is malfunctioning? I did not yet open these, because I
> assume the cover plastic sheet may not stick again after a removal.
>
> What would you recommend trying, in order to revive this 200LX?

I would open it and look for the failure.
The plastic sheets on screen and keyboard can be aattached again after
a removal, they are glued with double-adhesive tape, and it is still
adhesive after removal, even if not as strong as before.

Maybe the motherboard has lost a memory daughterboard entirely or
partially, this could cause the board not fo work anymore. Easy to be
fixed, if that should be the case.
Or a power wire is broken. Did you try with batteries _and_ with AC
adapter? Did neither of them work?
You can try to find out if the screen is damaged, and the other things
are still working:
Plug in AC or batteries, (the "welcome to your new 200LX" message would
appear after booting) press enter a few times to "enter" your personal
data, then answer "y" when the palmtop asks if the data are correct,
then you should be in SysMgr, showing the top card. If you press letter
keys now, it should beep. If it beeps, you know the screen is damaged.
Or the cable from motherboard to screen slipped out of the connector.

Maybe my pages
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair and
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff
can help you a bit.

GTX
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Hi Jan

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:42:25 +0100, Jan Brandt <jebrandt@XS4ALL.NL> wrote:

> I have no luck connecting my LX and my Ericsson T39 via Infrared.
> In order to take it step by step I am concentrating on connecting the
> two using Andreas Garzottos IR.EXE,
> to see if I can establish a connection and perhaps transfer for instance
> a vcard.
>
> My LX is a double speed 200LX. According to the documentation of the
> IR.EXE program an appropriate
> baud rate should be 38400, but if I try that nothing at all works.
> So I set the IR.CFG file to


> The IR program replies:
> IR/LX 0.2 by A. Garzotto, Sep, 1999
>
> Opening IrDA for OBEX receive...
> Talking with "T39"...
> IrDA connection established (9600 baud).
> Closing IrDA connection...
>
> So on the LX it seems like everything has worked (although I don't
> understand why it reports 9600 baud),
> but the T39 display says:
>
> Connecting...
> then after 2 seconds:
> Connection failed
> then
> No device found
> Search again ?
>
> The vcard.vcf file that has been created in the LX is empty.

What are you planning to do?
IR.EXE can have some problem,s, because it is, as far as I understand,
only an "ultra light OBEX" implementation which is lacking several
things. It should work in general, but not in every case.
In case you plan to connect to the Internet with the LX and the T39, I
would suggest trying WWW/LX. This is what most of us use. You need a
special WWW/LX version with a work around for an Ericsson firware bug,
if you want to use GPRS. For GSM, you can use the normal version.
For testing if it works at all you can even use a non-registered
WWW/LX.
Try this setup:


[IrDA]
Port=-1
OmniGo=0
Modem=0
PPP=1
Baud=38400
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
Script=CHAP_Script
ModemInit=AT&F
Dial=ATDTxxxxxx
Login=xxxxx
Password=xxxxxx

replace the xxxxx strigs by valid ones, the password must be encrypted,
see WWW documentation for this.

> I know that the LX sees "something", because if I remove the T39 from
> the line of sight
> it never gets past the "Opening IrDA for OBEX receive..." message.

Did you try the opposite way - sending an OBEX object?

> Am I missing something obvious here ? What am I supposed to see if this
> works. Can the infrared port
> be disabled in the LX ? On the other hand as described above the LX
> seems to see the T39 alright, so
> that's probably not the problem. Is there a handshake problem ?

Read anything about the IR port on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev
Then you understand, that _actually_ the phone cannot recognize the LX
by simly launching the so-called IrDA "discovery" mechanisms (sending a
request to identify and the other device identifies by sending a short
string, then the used baud rate is negotiated and so on). Unless IR.EXE
emulates this IrDA behaviour. I don't know if it does.

The port can be disabled, you can explicitly enable it to be sure it is
on by using Stefan Peichl's LXPRO or SETCOM1 (peichl.hplx.net).
But actualy I don't think this is the problem.

Did you try another T39 or another LX to be sure it is not a hardware
problem?

> Is this setup very sensitive to the relative position of the devices ?
> I have tried holding them up almost against each other (obviously with
> the IR ports facing each other),
> I have tried placing them with a distance of 30 cm, and I have tried
> anything in between.

Also try 50cm. Maybe you suffer from the EMI problem.
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi

But _actually_ you should not, because this is only relevant during a
voice or data connection between phone and network provider.
But under extremely bad circumstandes, even the periodically sent small
data packets between phone and network could maybe disturb the IrDA
connection, too. You can check that with Stefan Peichl's RING.COM.

Hope this helps
daniel


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Hello Helmuth

On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:48:06 +0100, "Helmuth E. Guenther" <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> > Attention: If you accidentally delete an item or even a whole branch of
> > a map, DON't HIT ESC (as it would be the intuitive reaction)! This
> > could cause MM/LX to save the map and your item or branch is lost if
> > you haven't a backup file!
>
> And what happens if you press <Paste>?
>
> Here it puts back the deleted part.

Yes, really it does. :-)
So there is a "hidden undo" feature for accidental deletions.

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Hi Jan

I have just found another message from you ;-)

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:37:58 +0100, Jan Brandt <jebrandt@XS4ALL.NL> wrote:

> Thanks Daniel. I had already studied your pages, but I still can't make it
> work.

> it out, just to see if I can send an AT command or perhaps send or receive a
> VCARD. But I can't make that work either, so perhaps my phone setup is
> wrong, although I can't find other settings for the IR in the phone except
> to switch it on or off.

No other things necessary. Just switch it on.

> The LX does see the phone, because it reports it is "Talking with T39", but
> after a few seconds it reports "IrDA connection failed".

Which software Ericsson firmware version do you have? Find out with
keys

v * ^ ^ * ^ *

(v and ^ are the down and up keys; vocales are *, consonants are v and
^, they build the word "Service": You get into the service menu. Then
choose 1 1 (service Info, SW Info).

> [Ericsson]
> Port=-1
> OmniGo=0
> PPP=1
> Modem=0
> Baud=19200

Try 38400 here.

> My_IP=0.0.0.0
> DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
> DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
> Script=CHAP_Script
> Login=***********
> ModemInit=at+cbst=71,0,1;+chsn=1,1,0,4

Try AT&F here.

> Dial=atdt0102997505

Are you sure this number leads to a valid ISP, also from the mobile
network?

GTX
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:45:02 +0200, Zoran Vignjevic <zoranv@GOV.YU> wrote:

> Is this possibleat 2MB 200lx?
> http://www.komaromi.com/dos_email/

You can do DOS e-mail on the 200LX, but the programs described
on the Web site you mention may not fit into the space
available on the C: drive of your 2MB machine. And, you have
to choose the network interface card with care, since most
will require more power than the 200LX can provide.

Go to www.hplx.net/faq.networking.html for a discussion of
hardware and software that works on the 200LX. Note that since
this FAQ was written, at least one new low power NIC has been
developed. The manufacturer is Socket Communications.

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Yes, they do have cable with one end of RS-232 serial port. My 200lx has a
cable with RS232 port. How to hook them together? Where to find the null
adapter? And is that enough? Any software support?

Bing
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If you go to Kyocera's Accessory store... you need to get the Data
Connectivity Kit
for your phone.  Part number: TXDTA036-1  Price: $29.99  (Closeout
price).  It includes
the data cable, the null modem adapter, and a cd with some software on it
(cd is not
neccessary for what you're doing... but has some cool stuff for win 9x)

Hooking them together is easy... the phone cable goes from the phone to the
null modem
adapter.  The 200lx cable goes from the 200lx to the other end of the null
modem adapter.

That's all you need.  As for software... for a simple modem, you can use
the built in
datacomm software... If you're trying to connect to an ISP, there are
several programs
on the internet that will work... I used WWW/LX... it worked fine.

Here's a link to Kyocera's accessory store:
http://store.kyocera-wireless.com/

Christopher.


At 08:48 AM 4/2/02 -0500, Bing wrote:
>Yes, they do have cable with one end of RS-232 serial port. My 200lx has a
>cable with RS232 port. How to hook them together? Where to find the null
>adapter? And is that enough? Any software support?
>
>Bing
>from London Canada

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At 4/2/02 +0800, you wrote:
>At 04:03 PM 4/2/02 +1200, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
> >I think it's a joke. Try this and search:
> >
> >http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
> >
> >Cheers...Roger
> >
>
>Above URL "Not Found".

Worked for me, but then, it is April 2...  <G>


>On http://www.palmtop.net/, there is the following message:-
>
>"Due to a lack interest, as well as lack of financial support, palmtop.net
>and SUPER will no longer be available. We apologize for the inconvenience."
>
>Is this an April Fool's joke ?

Maybe. Not a real good one, but may still be one.  There are plenty
volunteers to host the site if current host cannot continue.

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At 4/2/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > I just tried it.  Ugggh 404 error aaaaahhgghgh!!!! Panic stations!!!!
> >
> > > I think it's a joke. Try this and search:
> > >
> > > http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
>
>If it is a joke, I don't find it that funny. If it's not, then I
>am willing to host super/palmtop.net on my system. Super is a
>resource that should not be lost.

I agree. Mike, Pls let me know privately what additional resources you may
need.

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I am so sorry, Avi.
So far no luck.
I think I tried every thing:
compress=3D0 and magic=3D0 and DNS=3D193.096.115.033.
It still hangs at: Negotiating LCP...
What else could I do wrong?
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> Is the power you can suck from them divided
> over the different voltage outlets?

Yes it is - and before you plug your valuable HP onto it, check the
voltages thoroughly. They are all designed to deliver most of the power at
5 V and some if not many do not like it at all if that outlet is not
loaded.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> > Get hold of any old PC power supply... They supply at least 12V at
3Amps.
> > Solder a plug to any of the 12V outlets...
> > Put in a nice wooden box - presto - a $5 or less  switched regulated 12V
> > supply ( plus 5 volts etc....)
>
> What a wonderful idea!
> Maybe if only 2 200LXs and an Omnibook 800CT are connected, the current
> needed is so small that the fan of the power supply can be switched off
> without danger of overheating the thing?
>
> 12V @ 3A seems a bit low, since the PC power supplies are rated at
> 150-200W (newer even 250W). Is the power you can suck from them divided
> over the different voltage outlets?
>
Well, If you look a bit further (obsolete network switches, modem
concentrators and the like, they often have small industrial power supplies
you can use. (I salvaged two free that way....). Also _especially_ look into
old external CD, tape drive and disk cases. The older, the more 12V vs 5V
they supply, in a beautiful small power supply package.
They are usually even better (and smaller) than old PC supplies.
Usually the max 12V power is indicated. If you exceed that, they usually
switch off without burning a fuse. The max load depends on the Stabilizer
(7812 / 7912 type) used, plus it's cooling . Just overload and see what
happens. If it burns out, test further with the next free power supply.

I have done this for over a year now, just never thought to publish the
idea.

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Hi friends,

regarding the precious thread about the worldmap decoration on the
keyboard edge of the 700LX - I have interesting info: Seems that HP
removed the map on later machines (and thi seems reasonable, because
everyone who saw this seems to have been irritated by the decoration,
first thinking it was a damage). Here is the info I collected:

With the map:
SG609 (Daniel Hertrich)
SG61  (Ron Colonna)
SG615 (Bob Penick)
SG618 (Bob Penick)

Without the map:
SG632 (Oliver Leibenguth)
SG63.. (Michel Bel)

I assume the s/n scheme follows the same rules as the s/n scheme of the
200LX. So this means that from middle of 1996, (week 2x or 3x)
the 700LXs didn't have a world map anymore.

Anyone having a 700LX which doesn't fit into this scheme, please
report!

Also, does anyone know when the first 700LXs have been made? Mine seems
to be an early machine, at least older than all others in the list
above. And when has it been discontinued?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Bing

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 08:48:40 -0500, Bing <bxu2@UWO.CA> wrote:

> Yes, they do have cable with one end of RS-232 serial port. My 200lx has a
> cable with RS232 port. How to hook them together? Where to find the null
> adapter? And is that enough? Any software support?

If you don't find a suitable null modem adapter,
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232 shows how to make one.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Ulrich and Avi,
(BCC goes to Andreas)

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:22:47 -0500, Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE> wrote:

> I am so sorry, Avi.
> So far no luck.
> I think I tried every thing:
> compress=0 and magic=0 and DNS=193.096.115.033.
> It still hangs at: Negotiating LCP...
> What else could I do wrong?

For what it's worth:
Today I had the chance to try a Nokia 6310 of a friend with the HPLX
and found that it also seems to require the modified version of
WWW.EXE, which has the work-around for the Ericsson firmware bug.
I tried with that version with the same setup as I use for my T39, and
GPRS worked. Then I tried with the "normal" www.exe and it didn't. Same
symptom as you describe. Hangs on Negotiating LCP.

So maybe Nokia firmware has the same bug?
Ir - maybe it isn't a real bug, but only a different way of
implementation of the PPP protocol? Another way of interpreting the PPP
specification?..... If Ericsson AND Nokia show the same problem, it may
not be a real bug.

It would be interesting to know how that workaround works, so we could
investigate a little further where the problem in the firmware is.

GTX
daniel

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:03:53 +0200, I wrote:

> regarding the precious thread about the worldmap decoration on the

Sorry, I meant  ^^^^^^^^ "previous" here. Although precious may also be
true. ;-)

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Hi Stephanie

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:28:54 -0500, Stephanie Maks <va3uxb@MAKSYSTEMS.COM> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am totally new to the HP-200 LX.  I just won one on eBay, though it will be a while before I receive it, I am trying to prepare.  I have
> downloaded and read the User's Guide PDF file, but have a couple questions.

Welcome aboard! :-)
You have just entered the world of the most useful palmtop ever and we
all hope you will have much fun with it!

> My main question is regarding PCMCIA usage.  I have some Sandisk Compact Flash cards and a Sandisk PCMCIA / CF adaptor.  My CF cards are 8MB and
> 20MB in size.  Can I plug them in and use them on the HP200LX so they appear as my A:\ drive, as the manual discusses for memory cards?

It should be possible without any problem.
It may be necessary to format them. If the palmtop doesn't recognize it
on the first try, execute fdisk100 (it's in the palmtop's ROM) and then
format a:

> If the answer is 'Yes' then my second question is, can I then load applications from my laptop onto the flash card, then plug it in the
> Palmtop and run them?

Yes. This is the way I load software on my palmtop all the time.

> And my last question is, what are the good websites for information and files for the palmtop?  I have found www.hplx.net, and www.palmtop.net
> but as of tonight there is a message on palmtop.net that it and Super are history.

This fortunately turned out as an April joke. www.palmtop.net and
www.hplx.net are probably the most useful ressources for information
and software about the 200LX.
Other places to visit are for example:

http://peichl.hplx.net
http://www.palmtoppaper.com
http://www.dasoft.com
http://www.rundel.net
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de ;-)

and many more...

Have fun!

GTX
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Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions and directed me to some
great web sites.  Now I am just waiting impatiently for my 200LX to arrive.

I am very happy that Palmtop.net and Super aren't really gone, I was worried
that the day I finaly purchased my palmtop, a great resource had vanished.

-Stephanie

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> Seems that HP
> removed the map on later machines (and thi seems reasonable, because
> everyone who saw this seems to have been irritated by the
> decoration,
> first thinking it was a damage).

Too bad they decided to remove the decoration. Since I know what it is
(or what it's supposed to be) I'd like to have a 700lx _with_ the
decoration. Has anyone seen a German 700lx with a suitable serial
number yet?

regards,
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If anyone is interested in using/learning Turbo Pascal, (which is perfect
programming language to write applications for our beloved HP Palmtop) I'm
selling a spare set of manuals on eBay.

I believe most, if not all, of Curtis Cameron's games were written in Turbo
Pascal.  Borland's version 5.1 is available for free download at
http://community.borland.com/museum/
My manuals cover this version.  Starting bid is at $1.99.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2013719270

Don.
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I really have no idea. Consider replacing the phone for one with newer
software?

Avi

At 4/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I am so sorry, Avi.
>So far no luck.
>I think I tried every thing:
>compress=0 and magic=0 and DNS=193.096.115.033.
>It still hangs at: Negotiating LCP...
>What else could I do wrong?
>Uli
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Hello,

>What I find truly amazing is someone with a PC
>that still has an ISA slot!!!! <g>

I have just bought an Asus P3V133 board, which is one of thew few
high quality and reasonably modern PIII motherboards, sporting
three ISA slots. It was quite cheap used.

I will put it in storage and so I can be sure, that say, 3-5 years from
now, I will have a platform to plug in my app. 400 pcs collection of
old PC expansion cards, if I want to take a look at them in
operation.
Supposedly iPIII-1GHz and SDRAM will be cheap like dirt that
time, so I decided to get the motherboard only right now; because
ISA bus socket is disappearing at an alarming rate from the market.

This is a great pity, as home enthusiasts will no longer be able to
build prototype boards in the garage, there is no way to assemble
PCI or AGP cards from TTL parts, not to mention the 4-6 layer
PCB requirement. It was the ISA bus, which made the IBM PC eat
all the other microcomputer platforms; breadbox machines with no
standard universal expansion plug just disappeared.

Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> regarding the precious thread about the worldmap decoration on the
> keyboard edge of the 700LX - I have interesting info: Seems that HP
> removed the map on later machines (and thi seems reasonable, because
> everyone who saw this seems to have been irritated by the decoration,
> first thinking it was a damage).

I can indeed confirm that I looked shocked at the rough edge of the first
700LX I had - I thought someone had spilled a lot of glue or acid on the
thing...
Took me a while to discover a worldmap...

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Hi friends,

the HPLX users database is now officially online.
www.palmtop.net has a direct link to it on the main page, but the
actual home of the databse will be
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb
because that's easier for me to update than if it was on the
palmtop.net server.

Thanks to Bob for the hard work!

GTX
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Most of the time, it's written on the pwer supplies how many Amperes
they can deliver for each Voltage. It is recommended to load a bit
the 5V even if you use only the 12V.

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Hi everyone,

This is a delurk, so I suppose it'd only be polite to post a brief intro
first.  I got my 200LX back in 1997 and have been using it more or less
continuously ever since, save for some attempts with a Toshiba Libretto and a
Powerbook.  I used to be active on this list before ... remember being on the
beta list for some of Rod Whitby's stuff.  Anyway, enough of that.

I've become interested in building a generic IrDA serial stack and API for
connecting to mobile phones, that can then be used to link to terminal
emulators and PPP stacks etc.  Right now the only stuff is ir.exe and WWW/LX,
which although good stuff, is rather limiting in that it's fixed to OBEX and
PPP use.

So, I have started messing around with IrLAP to see if I can get a connection.
According to IrLAP 1.1, p89, contention traffic is at 9600 baud.  Setting up
the port and pointing it at a Win95 laptop with IrDA extensions, I can see XID
negotiation frames coming up.  But with a Nokia 6210, I get nothing .  Yes,
the phone is in IrDA mode(!), and works with WWW/LX.

Does anyone know why this might be, or can you try it with your own
phone/palmtops and let me know if you see frames being transmitted?

I'm not going to get too far with this if I can't get any data out of the
phone!

Thanks
Michael

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So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my external
pocket modem what takes 5V :)
Zoran

Marc BERLIOUX wrote:
>
> Most of the time, it's written on the pwer supplies how many Amperes
> they can deliver for each Voltage. It is recommended to load a bit
> the 5V even if you use only the 12V.
>
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Subject:      Re: using the 200LX to write and get email with a Verizon
              ADSLconnection
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:14:28 -1000, Renato de Vega <r.devega@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am considering having Verizon DSL installed in my house because my
> children's use of the Internet with my present dial-up connection is tying
> up the phone line. Before I do this, I want to make sure that I can still
> use my 200LX to access email.
>
> I have stuck with AT&T as my ISP because I can access email with my 200LX
> from just about anywhere. I don't know if I can still do the same if I have
> Verizon DSL installed.

When you say "from anywhere" I assume you mean when you are
away from home. You need to ask Verizon if they provide
dial-up service and if it will cost extra. I have Time Warner
cable modem service, not DSL. The original ISP on the service
was Road Runner, and they did not provide any dial-up service.
I had to therefore pay another ISP, Compuserve in my case, so
I had Internet access when I was traveling.

When Time Warner bought AOL, the government forced Time Warner
AOL to open their cable lines to other ISPs. This was done to
prevent the new company from forcing every Time Warner cable
customer to become an AOL customer. One of those "new" ISPs is
Earthlink. Earthlink has a large number of dial-up access
points since they started as a dial-up provider. My deal
Earthlink is that for the same cost as the old Time Warner
Road Runner service I now have high speed, always on Earthlink
at home over my Time Warner cable modem and unlimited use of
the Earthlink dial-up network in the US.

If you want to keep your AT&T service for dial-up, you can do
that also (at extra cost, of course). You will be able to
download your AT&T e-mail using the Verizon DSL service. To
send e-mail, you will have to use the Verizon SMTP server when
you are connected via your DSL system, but you can specify
your Reply To address as your AT&T address in your e-mail
program, and people receiving your e-mail will think it is
coming from your AT&T account.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 02:40:48 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Stephanie Maks wrote:
> Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions and directed me to some
> great web sites.  Now I am just waiting impatiently for my 200LX to arrive.

Once you start using the LX and see what potential it has you
may wish for 'more' than what you've got.
Some common upgrades are:

1. 32Meg (or 64Meg) addition.   Instead of a 1.3Meg C: drive,
you get that small space moved to F: and the additional 32Meg
shows up as C:.

2. The LX builtin apps are very good but you can do so much more
by using DOS programs.  However the Appmgr DOS box is small and
shutting it down to get back to pure DOS is a pain.
Software Carousel gives you task switching so you can have
multiple DOS sessions open and switch between them.  You'll wish
you had the 32Meg upgrade for swap space but it can still be
useful even on a small LX.

3. Want to email and usenet newsgroups on your LX?  Get
WWW/LX.  I use it for all my personal net communications.

4. Download some of Curtis Cameron's games. Great time wasters!

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:44:13 -0500
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 >getting "Incorrect User ID or Password" error message.  I have even
 >entered the password manually into the ACCIS configuration file.  So,
 >something must be wrong with the script?

You have to enter the password using the accis setup program.  It is =
stored in
the *.cfg file in an encoded format.  If you type it directly into the =
*.cfg
file, it won't work.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:17:22 +0800
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Hi all,
I may hv a chance to get a 100% new Omnigo 100 for around
US45, I think it is a great deal.
My interest of getting this is because of the CPU speed is
14MHz and touch screen.
My concerns are:
1) will it run DOS programs as fast as 2x 200LX.
2) will it run all the DOS programs that run on 200LX?
3) any problem to use with CF memory cards?
4) can I use the same serial cable that come with the 200LX?
5) can it run win3.0?
Any comments?

TIA

Roger

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:34:42 -0600
Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "R.S." <roger_shea@I-CABLE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:17 PM
Subject: Omnigo 100 vs HP200LX


> Hi all,
> I may hv a chance to get a 100% new Omnigo 100 for around
> US45, I think it is a great deal.
> My interest of getting this is because of the CPU speed is
> 14MHz and touch screen.
> My concerns are:
> 1) will it run DOS programs as fast as 2x 200LX.
> 2) will it run all the DOS programs that run on 200LX?
> 3) any problem to use with CF memory cards?
> 4) can I use the same serial cable that come with the 200LX?
> 5) can it run win3.0?
> Any comments?

As I remember it the Omnigo isn't a dos computer.  It's OS is
Geos.  Geos does sit on top of dos so there is a dos underneath
but I doubt that it's easy to get to and even if you do I doubt
that it's very useful.

I've never used an Omnigo but I do have some experience with a
Tandy Zoomer which uses a similar configuration.  Dos was there
and with some trickery you could get to it but it was just play.
You couldn't really use it.

Also I remember the Omnigo getting a lot of criticism for having
a very low contrast screen.  A lot of people said they weren't
able to use it.  Also there were a lot of complaints about the
Grafitti imlementation being unreliable.

Unless you specifically want an Omnigo, or you're just curious
and $45 is ok for curiosity, I'd do a little research.  There
are a lot of sites for it.  Do a Google search.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:41:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Ian Butler <ianb@HPLX.NET>
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From:         Ian Butler <ianb@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Omnigo 100 vs HP200LX, and SUPER joke
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, R.S. wrote:

> My concerns are:
> 1) will it run DOS programs as fast as 2x 200LX.
> 2) will it run all the DOS programs that run on 200LX?

No, it won't run DOS programs at all, generally speaking.  The screen is
totally non-standard and, while that doesn't matter on a Windows machine,
it's death to DOS programs.  Basically the machine is good for playing
touch-screen solitaire, and that's about it.

> 5) can it run win3.0?

No.

> BTW, the April fool about SUPER did give me a scare.

We at SUPER apologize for that.  There actually was a secret way to get
into the site (anybody remember that Sandra Bullock movie "The Net"?) but
it appears nobody found it -- must have been too well-hidden.  Whoops.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:44:02 -0500
Reply-To:     Francois Gurin <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
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From:         Francois Gurin <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Newbie Alert
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2002040221394463@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; from Russel Brooks
              on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:40:48AM +0000
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Since we're on the subject, i'd just like to offer my own hplx usage:

Stock hplx single speed, 4mb unit (2.8mb free at most times, i haven't
changed much since my 2mb days).  48mb flash disk with a 10mb jam drive
for my text files (ebooks, software documents, archived notes).

1. filer is your friend, the following is my c:\_dat\filer.ini:
[Launcher]
JPG=c:\bin\xeq.com lxpic %
PCX=c:\bin\xeq.com lxpic %
GIF=c:\bin\xeq.com lxpic %
BMP=c:\bin\xeq.com lxpic %
HTM=a:\hv\hv.exe %
PRC=a:\bin\docread.exe %
TXT=c:\vr\vr.exe %
DOC=c:\vr\vr.exe %
PAD=c:\bin\xeq.com sled %

this allows me to quickly view graphics and my text files, and quick access to
my scratch.pad files for quick notes.  also, if my flash card is inserted it
will handle html and some palm books, but i rarely use these.

2. xeq.com, a fun little program i came across which can hold up to 64k or so
of .com files to save space on clusters.  my copy holds:
        lxpic   -everyone's favorite graphic viewer
        autocaps-handles smart capitalization, only used for long wp sessions
        minicom -a REALLY small terminal program, for emergency use
        uncommon-turns any file into a debug script, not unlike uuencode
        lxen2216-packet driver for ne2k clones
        cam2jpg -i had a qv-10a for a while, never got rid of this
        xgrep   -best grep for dos i know
        dosclip -share the clipboard buffer between dos apps and sysmgr
        uudecode-can be handy in a pinch with minicom
        sled    -a really small text editor for dos with multiedit support
                 i used this a lot before i found a vi version which i liked
                 still keep it around due to it's size, speed, and features
        dvansi  -sometimes an ansi driver is useful
        cicskt  -don't know why i keep this around, it came with the socket lpe
        lxcic   -a must for pcmcia nics and modems
        hpmouse -a novelty for dos apps to use the keyboard as a mouse
        vanity  -fun to pass the time finding words for phone numbers
on the internal memory with 512byte blocks, not a whopping savings of space,
but it's easy to move around.

3. sshdos.exe (and pppd.exe & chat.exe for modems) is simply a must.  I do
all my networking on a command line based unix host, and use a program called
screen which allows me to pick up my session from wherever i connect.  so no
matter where I am, i can ssh home, attach my screen, and checkup mail, do
text based web browsing, irc, and work on projects.
I prefer this method to doing everything (anything) on the lx as it allows me
to always have the same tools available from anywhere, and I don't have to
worry about syncing important email.  it also reduces the space needed on
the hplx and moves all the complex stuff to a machine with better resources.
Unfortunately, a single speed hplx is not a heavy computation beast, and ssh
runs a bit on the slow side.  Still, it's fast enough to get me connected, and
over slower links it's not even an issue.
I also keep a copy of ftp and a small telnet client for emergencies.

4. games.  I keep one game on the c: drive until i tire of it, and keep the
rest on a:


5. the flash card.  couldn't live without it.  all my ebooks and documentation
is kept on a 10mb jam drive which i maximize every few months.
        bin     -I also keep a bin directory with all my standard dos utils
                and my lesser used hplx utils.  ~3.5mb
        net     -all my working dos net programs go in here. ~2.5mb
        jam     -i load the jam drivers of the flash card, since if i boot
                without the flash card the drivers aren't very useful. ~175k
        tc      -turbo c 2.0 with some extras.  ~1mb
        vr      -i use vr a LOT.  on the flash card i keep all the extra fonts
                not normally used. ~160k
Living with a 20mb card for a long time, I haven't expanded this too much.
I also backup the c: drive to the flash card before moving the flash card to
the pcmcia reader at home for quick backups.


As you can see, I don't regularly make use of many programs these days.
for a long time i was trying to make my hplx replace my desktop.  over
time, my desktop went from where i did everything to a client to a unix
machine where i do everything.  So they're now replacable, except i need a
desktop for multimedia and i need my hplx for reading.

--francois


On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:40:48AM +0000, Russel Brooks wrote:
> Stephanie Maks wrote:
> > Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions and directed me to some
> > great web sites.  Now I am just waiting impatiently for my 200LX to arrive.
>
> Once you start using the LX and see what potential it has you
> may wish for 'more' than what you've got.
> Some common upgrades are:
>
> 1. 32Meg (or 64Meg) addition.   Instead of a 1.3Meg C: drive,
> you get that small space moved to F: and the additional 32Meg
> shows up as C:.
>
> 2. The LX builtin apps are very good but you can do so much more
> by using DOS programs.  However the Appmgr DOS box is small and
> shutting it down to get back to pure DOS is a pain.
> Software Carousel gives you task switching so you can have
> multiple DOS sessions open and switch between them.  You'll wish
> you had the 32Meg upgrade for swap space but it can still be
> useful even on a small LX.
>
> 3. Want to email and usenet newsgroups on your LX?  Get
> WWW/LX.  I use it for all my personal net communications.
>
> 4. Download some of Curtis Cameron's games. Great time wasters!
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:11:34 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Although we have asked on the list several times to review the (then
unofficially online) database and see if entries are wrong or unwanted,
we have got an email from a few list members saying they don't want to be
mentioned with this email address in the HPLXUDB and that it was not
right to make the database available that way with data included
without permission.

This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
personal data to be distributed via such a database.

But Bob and I agreed that it would be for all people the
easiest way if we do it the way we did: First ask on the list, if
anyone DOESN'T want to be included with the "Around the world" info he
has posted. No one mailed us. Then we put together the database, put it
on my homepage, without any link or description, asked all of you to
download it, gave the password ONLY HERE in the list, and asked all of
you to see if your entries are ok.

Bob received some - but not many - emails and corrected everything.

Actually it is only feasible to include personal data in such a
database with permission of every single person, that's true. But Bob
and I thought it is something different here in this list, because we
all know each other fairly well already, respect each other, and so we
thought it would be enough to ask if anyone included in the datbase
does NOT agree with his inclusion.

It may not be enough, it seems.

So, the database is removed from its original place.

I have modified it a bit and offer it for download again
_unofficially_ on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb.zip
The password is changed to "unofficial".
So, we ask you again to download it, review your entry and send
correction requests back to Bob.
And in addition, we will wait how this discussion evolves, and what your
opinions are about that problem.

I don't think it is feasible to ask every single person for permission
(almost 300 entries), so I think if the discussion shows that
we cannot post the database without every person's permission, we will
drop the project.

This is all said without Bob's permission, ;-)
because people asked me to act quickly modifying their database
entries. So Bob, what's your opinion?

And BTW: The subscribers list, which can be requested from the list
server, shows that about 570 people are currently subscribed to the
list. So we have about 50% of all HPLX-L subscribers
in the HPLX users database. If we decide the project to continue,
I would like to encourage the other 50% to let themselves be added
to the database. Please use the
email link on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb for that.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:59:43 +0200
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From:         Radek Svagr <radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM>
Subject:      200lx & 700lx
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How bigger is 700lx in comparision to 200lx? I can buy one piece but I am unsure if this computer
is as much usable as 200lx.
Are here also a memory upgrade possibilities? Is motherboard same size like 200LX one?

Radek

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:49:44 +0200
Reply-To:     Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
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From:         Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
Subject:      Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE WARNING
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Zoran Vignjevic wrote:
> So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my external
> pocket modem what takes 5V :)
> Zoran
>
I would be VEERRRYY careful in this case:

In this case some things are _extremely_ non-obvious!!!

The LX takes a negative tip 12V, e.g. you make _ground_ the main, and the
+12V becomes ground for the LX.

The modem is most probably a positive tip 5V. Ground is then 0V. So you
might shortcircuit the 12V supply OVER YOUR PRECIOUS PORTABLE MODEM OR CABLE
if signal ground and power ground are joined.

So the message is:

Do Not Connect Devices Which Are On The Same Power Supply Unless You Are
200% Sure What You Are Doing.

(sorry for the capital shouting, but this is extremely necessary)

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:21:32 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Ian

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:41:35 -0800, Ian Butler <ianb@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> We at SUPER apologize for that.  There actually was a secret way to get
> into the site (anybody remember that Sandra Bullock movie "The Net"?) but
> it appears nobody found it -- must have been too well-hidden.  Whoops.

But the joke showed that palmtop.net is still a very essential source
for palmtoppers!

Did you ever think about updating the information on hplx.net?
Some things are outdated and it would be good to add some new
information (networking FAQ: net LP-E card. And similar things).

It would cost a few hours, but it would be of great advantage for new
visitors, who are not up-to-date as we list members are.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:21:33 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Radek

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:59:43 +0200, Radek Svagr <radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM> wrote:

> How bigger is 700lx in comparision to 200lx? I can buy one piece but I am unsure if this computer
> is as much usable as 200lx.

It is much bigger, and in my opinion much less usable than a 200LX.
What it provides, what the 200LX don't is only the direct interface to
a mobile phone. But this can be had with the 200LX as well now, at
least with WWW/LX over IrDA, but also with free software over data
cable. So the 700LX doesn't have _any_ advantage over the 200LX, in my
opinion.

> Are here also a memory upgrade possibilities? Is motherboard same size like 200LX one?

The motherboard is bigger and differently designed. See the pictures on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/700lx
and compare them to the 200LX motherboard pictures on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:52:18 +0200
Reply-To:     Zoran Vignjevic <zoranv@GOV.YU>
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Michel,
thank You very much for the warning!
It can be usefull to some others also...
Anyhow I drive 200lx on NiMH baterries, (defined in set-up like nonrechargables)
and maybe I will put modem on DC 5V on power suply at home.
I've  allready tried the modem with external box with 4 NiMH baterries and it
works.
Regards,
Zoran

Michel Bel wrote:

> Zoran Vignjevic wrote:
> > So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my external
> > pocket modem what takes 5V :)
> > Zoran
> >
> I would be VEERRRYY careful in this case:
>
> In this case some things are _extremely_ non-obvious!!!
>
> The LX takes a negative tip 12V, e.g. you make _ground_ the main, and the
> +12V becomes ground for the LX.
>
> The modem is most probably a positive tip 5V. Ground is then 0V. So you
> might shortcircuit the 12V supply OVER YOUR PRECIOUS PORTABLE MODEM OR CABLE
> if signal ground and power ground are joined.
>
> So the message is:
>
> Do Not Connect Devices Which Are On The Same Power Supply Unless You Are
> 200% Sure What You Are Doing.
>
> (sorry for the capital shouting, but this is extremely necessary)

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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:00:26 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

playing around with my new 700LX, I found two very(!) interesting
pieces of software in ROM (D:\BIN)

lamptsr.com and comtsr.com.

Both are (c) 1994-95 by HP, and are called by default from autoexec.bat.

lamptsr identifies itself as
IrDA IrLAP and IrLMP Protocol Stack Version 3.10
and can be called in infrared mode, wired mode and adapter mode.
(lamptsr /?)

comtsr says it is a
COM API TSR Version 3.10.

The 700LX's autoexec.bat calls the two TSR that way (the comment says
"loading IrDA driver:"):
d:\bin\lamptsr.com /l /i
d:\bin\comtsr.com /L

So, could this already be an IrDA stack with API?


However, I tried around with the two, also on the 200LX, where they
_can_ be loaded, but I was never really able to talk to a phone. LXPRO
was on the 700LX not even able to enable the COM port and switch it to
IR mode, everytime I switched to IR, the COM port has been disabled..?

Everyone interested in trying arond with that TSRs, download them from
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/irda700.zip

I cannot guarantee that it won't damage a 100LX or 200LX, but mine is
okay. ;-)

I would be very interested to know what exactly they are for and if
they could be useful on the 200LX as well.
Anyone with a 700LX manual? Are these TSRs mentioned in the manual?

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:18:39 +0200
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> So the 700LX doesn't have _any_ advantage over the 200LX,
> in my opinion.

Beg to differ. It has a very nice and convenient SMS and an integrated fax
program, both very nicely bound to the address book. Datacomm and Going
postal can also use the phone without having to bother about cables or
just-so IR positioning. Incidently, I was never very interested in the LX,
being a Portfolio (128 kB, DOS 2.0) user, but just when I had my first
Nokia I saw an article about the 700 and was instantly hooked - though it
is only recently that used ones came into my price range.
It uses the Nokia's power supply and can charge both simultaneously
overnight. And since I found ABC-LX I no longer fry my batteries through
overcharging.
I do have to admit though, the case is really bulky when seen next to a
200.

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Hi Radek

> > Are here also a memory upgrade possibilities? Is motherboard same size like 200LX one?
>
> The motherboard is bigger and differently designed. See the pictures on

..and I forgot to add that a memory ugrade is not possible, at least
not that easy as for the 200LX, because there is no daughterboard
socket and even not the soldering contacts for a socket.

GTX
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Hi Daniel,

> I think I know what you mean.
> Do you speak of pixel lines, filled from left to right and from top to
> bottom slowly with obviously random pixels?
> I get this behaviour if I press keys too fast or in a non-functional
> order (menu - e - o for example, maybe only when I press menu twice or
> so... I haven't found the real reason yet).
>
> I'm running MM/LX 2.0 under Software Carousel, with SC swapping to EMS.

Yes, this is exactly that and it also happens when I type too fast on the
keyboard.  Avi, Andreas, does this description help you to locate and fix
this anoying bug ?

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Bob,

> Anybody know a source for the Accton 2216-1 network cards?  Thanks.

Those cards come for sale to EBAY from time to time.

EBay has a nice features which allows to define a search criteria which =
will
scan all new items offered for sale on EBAY. A few months ago, I used =
that
with "accton 2216" and a few weeks later got notified by eMail that this =
item
was for sale. I bought one and some other list members did the same.

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Hi Daniel, hi world;-)

in my archives i found a Softwarepack IRDA200.ZIP
I send the ZIP directly to you.

I decided to include the readme here in the list, because I am
shure it will be in interest of all 200LXers.

Happy LXing
Juergen.

-------------------------
this ist the readme.txt (shortened because of the 140-lines
Listmail-Limit)

HP 200LX   IrDA Printer Drivers

While HP pioneered infrared communication with its calculator
and
Palmtop computer line, it joined with the IrDA (Infrared Data
Association)
to extend that technology into a high speed protocol standard
that is
beginning to be put into printers and accessory devices that
work with
the printers. The devices are commonly called IrDA compliant
devices.

The HP Palmtop built-in IR interface is HP proprietary SIR
(serial
infrared interface). IrDA evolved several years after HP
developed SIR,
and IrDA is not backward compatible to the HP proprietary SIR
in these machines.

However, now that IrDA is available in some printers and
accessories
that work with printers, the need for IrDA drivers for the
Palmtop has
come about. This set of files are IrDA printer drivers for the
HP 200LX. The drivers are not written for, and will not work
on,
the HP 95LX or the HP 100LX.

Once installed on the HP 200LX, they replace SIR printing
capabilities
of the HP 200LX. They do not affect the SIR file transfer
capabilities
in FILER.

These driver files are put into the public domain and are
unsupported.
Do not call Hewlett-Packard support lines, as no support
organization
is trained or authorized to support these drivers.

Known limitations:
        The drivers are for printing only, not for file transfer.
        The drivers do not work on the HP 100LX or the HP 95LX. The
                drivers are written exclusively for the HP 200LX.
        The drivers do not work with IR printing accessories that are
                specifically designed to work with the built-in SIR of
                the Palmtop, such as, the Extended Systems JetEye
                ESI-9510A, ESI-9802A devices.
        Minimal testing has taken place, successfully printing to the
                HP LaserJet 5P printer and to the Extended Systems
                JetEye ESI-9580 device, both of which are IrDA compliant.
        Minimal testing has taken place, successfully from Memo,
Filer,
                Appt, Phone, and Print Screen within System Manager.
        The drivers do not work in Lotus 1-2-3 or cc:Mail.
        The drivers do not work in DOS.
        On occasion, the printing connection may not be made, causing
                printing to fail. The printing appears to resume with
                a retries.
        No testing has taken place with other external drivers or
TSR's
                loaded onto the HP 200LX.

Setting up your System Manager Applications to perform IRDA
Printing
==============================================================
======

- Go into the Setup Application and choose
MENU-Options-Printer
- You may choose the fastest baud rate of 115200 and select
Infrared in
  the Interface section.  Make sure that you have selected the
"HP LaserJet"
  in your Printer section if you wish to print to the HP
LaserJet or the
  HP DeskJet range of printers.
- Press F10 to save your Settings.

Testing your installation
=========================

- Next, launch the MEMO application and use it to open the
file,
  D:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
- Press MENU-F-P to open the MEMO Print dialog box.
- Point your HP 200LX IR port directly towards the IR receiver
of your IrDA
  printer.
- Make sure that your HP 200LX is less than six inches from
the IR receiver
  of your IrDA printer.
- Press the ENTER key to start printing.
- IrDA printing will now commence.

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Steve,

I tried it both ways.  I think Accis has gotten corrupt somehow.  I will
reinstall it for the disk.  I know the password is OK because I got to
CIS through Netscape and WinCim 4.02.

Thanks.   =Bob=

Steve Carder wrote:
>
>  >getting "Incorrect User ID or Password" error message.  I have even
>  >entered the password manually into the ACCIS configuration file.  So,
>  >something must be wrong with the script?
>
> You have to enter the password using the accis setup program.  It is stored in
> the *.cfg file in an encoded format.  If you type it directly into the *.cfg
> file, it won't work.
>
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Hi,

> It is much bigger, and in my opinion much less usable than a 200LX.

Well actually overall the 700LX is much more robust than the
200LX. The screen hinge of the 700LX is much more durable
than the 200LX. It's made up of some plastic material that is
less brittle than the 200LX. I understand that there's 2
versions. Mine's the one with the world map on it (when I first
got it I thought that some thinner was spilt on it).

I now use the 700LX when I go for my army reservist training once
a year and I don't have to be too careful about it. I can throw
it into the metal box with my other my other equipment, maps,
rulers, forms etc.  The 200LX in an Otterbox is even bulkier
but even then I dare not risk damaging my 200LX.

But because the 700LX is too bulky, I don't use it on a daily
basis and use the 200LX instead.

Rgds
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Once more, thanks, but:
There are two power connectors to motherboard

(italian version:
6.3.6) Connettori di alimentazione scheda madre


pin     funzione P8            pin     funzione P9
---     ------------           ---     -----------
1       Power Good             1       Massa
2       +5 V (o non collegato) 2       Massa
3       +12 V                  3       -5 V
4       -12 V                  4       +5 V
5       Massa                  5       +5 V
6       Massa                  6       +5 V  )

as You see there is -12V also...
Does it help?
TIA,Zoran



Michel Bel wrote:

> Zoran Vignjevic wrote:
> > So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my external
> > pocket modem what takes 5V :)
> > Zoran
> >
> I would be VEERRRYY careful in this case:
>
> In this case some things are _extremely_ non-obvious!!!
>
> The LX takes a negative tip 12V, e.g. you make _ground_ the main, and the
> +12V becomes ground for the LX.
>
> The modem is most probably a positive tip 5V. Ground is then 0V. So you
> might shortcircuit the 12V supply OVER YOUR PRECIOUS PORTABLE MODEM OR CABLE
> if signal ground and power ground are joined.
>
> So the message is:
>
> Do Not Connect Devices Which Are On The Same Power Supply Unless You Are
> 200% Sure What You Are Doing.
>
> (sorry for the capital shouting, but this is extremely necessary)

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Ian Butler writes:

> > BTW, the April fool about SUPER did give me a scare.
>
> We at SUPER apologize for that.  There actually was a secret way to get
> into the site (anybody remember that Sandra Bullock movie "The Net"?) but
> it appears nobody found it -- must have been too well-hidden.  Whoops.

What was this, a Caeser's Ghost icon?

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Daniel Hertrich writes:

> This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
> and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
> personal data to be distributed via such a database.

It seems to me that posting such information to the list is a tacit
approval, since the list has publicly available archives.  I understand
that having all addresses collected in a single file makes it somewhat
more easily available, but think that anyone who is searching at that
level wouldn't have any trouble searching the archives.

By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of his efforts
on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been revitalized
over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and enthusiasm.

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Juergen Korthof writes:

> in my archives i found a Softwarepack IRDA200.ZIP
> I send the ZIP directly to you.
>
> I decided to include the readme here in the list, because I am
> shure it will be in interest of all 200LXers.

You certainly got my attention!  I'm most interested in hearing Daniel's
take on this, and having an opportunity to try the drivers.

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:11:34 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

[snip]
> This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
> and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
> personal data to be distributed via such a database.

[snip]

> I don't think it is feasible to ask every single person for permission
> (almost 300 entries), so I think if the discussion shows that
> we cannot post the database without every person's permission, we will
> drop the project.

This is certainly an interesting problem, and it will be
interesting to see how the opinions go. Would it be possible to
post all the names, but include personal information only for
those people who agree?

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Yes. If the power supply has a -12V output then you can power
the LX from that output and power your modem from the +5V
output and they will share a common ground line.

However, I repeat the cautions others have stated. Check the
voltages before you connect your expensive 200LX. See if the
+5V output needs a load. If so, you modem will probably not be
enough. And, considering the high cost of a replacement 200LX
and the low cost of small power supplies, I think the idea of
using a large computer power supply in this manner is risky
unless you are sure you know what you are doing. Most
electronic systems will burn out instantly if you apply too
much voltage or voltage of the wrong polarity. You will have no
time to react if you make a mistake.

Vic Roberts

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:41:06 +0200, Zoran Vignjevic <zoranv@GOV.YU> wrote:

> Once more, thanks, but:
> There are two power connectors to motherboard
>
> (italian version:
> 6.3.6) Connettori di alimentazione scheda madre
>
> pin     funzione P8            pin     funzione P9
> ---     ------------           ---     -----------
> 1       Power Good             1       Massa
> 2       +5 V (o non collegato) 2       Massa
> 3       +12 V                  3       -5 V
> 4       -12 V                  4       +5 V
> 5       Massa                  5       +5 V
> 6       Massa                  6       +5 V  )
>
> as You see there is -12V also...
> Does it help?

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Sorry for jumping into this partway through the discussion, but I have been
reading the info about the 200LX in the Power FAQ and I don't understand why
you would want to use the -12 volts?

The 200LX external power adaptor is rated, from what I have read, at 12VDC
with the centre negative and the sleeve positive.  So you wire the centre to
ground and the sleeve to +12 volts.  Your modem could be hooked to ground
and +5 volts.

If you hook the 200LX's centre pin to -12 volts and the sleeve to Ground,
and hook the modem from ground to +5 volts, you create a maximum difference
of 17 volts DC between the LX and the modem.

My apologies if I'm making a big newbie mistake in this, but I do know know
electronics quite well, and using the -12v to power one thing and the +5 to
power another thing and hooking the two things together at ground makes a 17
volt difference.

Also, the '-' feeds on computers tend to be rated for very low amperage,
because the computer only uses them for digital signalling, not to actually
power any mechanisms.

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From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:11 AM
Subject: HPLX users database offline! :-(


> Although we have asked on the list several times to review the
(then
> unofficially online) database and see if entries are wrong or
unwanted,
> we have got an email from a few list members saying they don't
want to be
> mentioned with this email address in the HPLXUDB and that it
was not
> right to make the database available that way with data
included
> without permission.

I guess I have mixed feelings about this.  I think that in a
group like this there's nothing wrong with putting together a
list to give to all of us.  I'm not sure what use it is but
obviously others do see a use for it.

If the public has access, which means spammers have access, I'd
rather not be included but if I am I'm not going to cry about
it.  It's not like the spammers aren't already finding me.

But the precautions you've taken sound pretty reasonable to me
and I don't object to being included.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Omnigo 100 vs HP200LX, and SUPER joke


> Ian Butler wrote:
>
>> We at SUPER apologize for that.  There actually was
>> a secret way to get into the site (anybody remember
>> that Sandra Bullock movie "The Net"?) but it appears
>> nobody found it -- must have been too well-hidden.
>>  Whoops.
>
> But the joke showed that palmtop.net is still a very essential
> source for palmtoppers!

Yes it did.  As soon as I saw Super was gone I took my 6 now
useless LXs to a pawn shop and sold the lot for $2.  I thought
they had just become useless.

I went to the pawn shop to try to get them back but they already
knew Super was back up and they wanted $200 each for them.  Of
course I had no choice so I bought them.

Anyway, it was a funny joke.  My panic is my own fault and I
need to lose weight so not eating for the next 3 months should
be good for me.

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Theodore Heise wrote:

> > We at SUPER apologize for that.  There actually was a secret way to get
> > into the site (anybody remember that Sandra Bullock movie "The Net"?) but
> > it appears nobody found it -- must have been too well-hidden.  Whoops.
>
> What was this, a Caeser's Ghost icon?

It was a Pi symbol in the movie, wasn't it?


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I need to search a directory full of dos batch files and replace
a string of text with another string of text wherever it occurs.
Is there any quick and easy way to do this without manually
updating each file? Thanks for your ideas.

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Diskusion is geting more and more promissing to learn a lot...
But I will stick with baterries for both when I am outside of my home
and office. But at home I will try to refind the way (because I managed
to destroy 5V power cable of gender for keyboard) with PC sound card
midi interface to catch 5V for my "precious" (not so,: 9600 bps, old,
I've got it for 5 EUR, with all cables) modem...I think there will be no
problem with powered PC conected with male 15pin cable (with two wires)
only to power my modem?

Regards
Zoran

Victor Roberts wrote:
>
> Yes. If the power supply has a -12V output then you can power
> the LX from that output and power your modem from the +5V
> output and they will share a common ground line.
>
> However, I repeat the cautions others have stated. Check the
> voltages before you connect your expensive 200LX. See if the
> +5V output needs a load. If so, you modem will probably not be
> enough. And, considering the high cost of a replacement 200LX
> and the low cost of small power supplies, I think the idea of
> using a large computer power supply in this manner is risky
> unless you are sure you know what you are doing. Most
> electronic systems will burn out instantly if you apply too
> much voltage or voltage of the wrong polarity. You will have no
> time to react if you make a mistake.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
""Sorry for jumping into this partway through the discussion, but I have
been
reading the info about the 200LX in the Power FAQ and I don't understand
why
you would want to use the -12 volts?

The 200LX external power adaptor is rated, from what I have read, at
12VDC
with the centre negative and the sleeve positive.  So you wire the
centre to
ground and the sleeve to +12 volts.  Your modem could be hooked to
ground
and +5 volts.

If you hook the 200LX's centre pin to -12 volts and the sleeve to
Ground,
and hook the modem from ground to +5 volts, you create a maximum
difference
of 17 volts DC between the LX and the modem.

My apologies if I'm making a big newbie mistake in this, but I do know
know
electronics quite well, and using the -12v to power one thing and the +5
to
power another thing and hooking the two things together at ground makes
a 17
volt difference.

Also, the '-' feeds on computers tend to be rated for very low amperage,
because the computer only uses them for digital signalling, not to
actually
power any mechanisms.

-Stephanie""

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Daniel and Bob,

I have checked my entry in the database and it is correct. I
also give my approval to continue to list the information you
have in the database for me.

If I want to add some information or change something at a
later date, do I send you the new data or do I edit the
database and send that to you?

Great work!

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:39:44 -0500, Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> It seems to me that posting such information to the list is a tacit
> approval,

This sounds reasonable to me.

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Yves:

Oh Geesh! <slapping self on forehead!>

Thank you many times. I completely forgot about this and in the last three
days I have logged into Ebay numerous times to check, and it is such a pain
to go through their menus each time! You gave me a good gift: Time! Thank
you many times.

At 4/3/02 +0100, Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote:
>EBay has a nice features which allows to define a search criteria which will
>scan all new items offered for sale on EBAY. A few months ago, I used that
>with "accton 2216" and a few weeks later got notified by eMail that this item
>was for sale. I bought one and some other list members did the same.
>
>  \/
>  /ves


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Sorry for the bandwidth, folks. This person Thanh Nguyen <tvn@ajile.com>
contacted me with questions, but emails to him bounce after some period of
non-delivery because of delays. Maybe the servers at his ISP are sick?

In any case, if you are the person, please contact me when the servers are
ready to roll, and I'll resend my reply.

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Daniel,

First of all thank you for the quick action. And thank you and Bob for
putting the database together to begin with.  I was at least one person
asking to remove my name and email address (which happened to be wrong)
from the database.

At 4/3/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Although we have asked on the list several times to review the (then
>unofficially online) database and see if entries are wrong or unwanted,
>we have got an email from a few list members saying they don't want to be
>mentioned with this email address in the HPLXUDB and that it was not
>right to make the database available that way with data included
>without permission.

That is not a good strategy to deal with a database like this. I feel it is
proper to ask and receive permission. The method you used forces me to opt
out. Well, I never followed the discussion on the database, because I was
busy with other things in my life. When I realized you are collecting a
database I could not imagine that you are not getting permissions, and I
believe they were a few posts here from people posting what amounts to
permission (something like - yes, put me in!)

S I assumed you dealt with it in a fair way - get permissions and include
the person.

>This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
>and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
>personal data to be distributed via such a database.
>
>But Bob and I agreed that it would be for all people the
>easiest way if we do it the way we did: First ask on the list, if
>anyone DOESN'T want to be included with the "Around the world" info he
>has posted.

Really mixed signal. I perceived all these posts as people granting
permissions, and assumed you will not post others if they have not posted
permission here (or by email).


>  No one mailed us. Then we put together the database, put it
>on my homepage, without any link or description, asked all of you to
>download it, gave the password ONLY HERE in the list, and asked all of
>you to see if your entries are ok.


I NEVER EVER thought you would my name and email address WITHOUT my
permission, so I never bothered to check. Besides, part of the time I was
not reading the list being busy with other things.


>Bob received some - but not many - emails and corrected everything.
>
>Actually it is only feasible to include personal data in such a
>database with permission of every single person, that's true.

That is the way it should be. This is public database, available to
EVERYONE, even spammers (regardless if they want to go through the hassle
of unzipping it with the password - that is still a public database.)


>But Bob
>and I thought it is something different here in this list, because we
>all know each other fairly well already, respect each other, and so we
>thought it would be enough to ask if anyone included in the datbase
>does NOT agree with his inclusion.


Correct. Still, if you take this responsibility to make the database, for
which I am thankful to you and to Bob (and I am thankful to you also for
the other wonderful work you do for the community), you have to consider
the implications. Hey, you even wrote about it in your own page, and I
think the comments entry in the database discusses not to give this list to
anyone who is not safe. IOW you are aware of the problems with giving out
the name and email address.

>It may not be enough, it seems.


Correct, it is not enough.

>So, the database is removed from its original place.
>
>I have modified it a bit and offer it for download again
>_unofficially_ on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb.zip
>The password is changed to "unofficial".
>So, we ask you again to download it, review your entry and send
>correction requests back to Bob.
>And in addition, we will wait how this discussion evolves, and what your
>opinions are about that problem.
>
>I don't think it is feasible to ask every single person for permission
>(almost 300 entries), so I think if the discussion shows that
>we cannot post the database without every person's permission, we will
>drop the project.


Of course it is easy. You already have the process in place via the email
link on your webpage.  If this is too complex to manage I'll be happy to
volunteer for the job of obtaining permissions. It will make me happy to
help you and Bob!


>This is all said without Bob's permission, ;-)


ROFL...

Avi


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Hi Yves and Daniel:

I posted this for the D&A beta, maybe someone seen this and has more info.

Avi


At 4/3/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Daniel,
>
> > I think I know what you mean.
> > Do you speak of pixel lines, filled from left to right and from top to
> > bottom slowly with obviously random pixels?
> > I get this behaviour if I press keys too fast or in a non-functional
> > order (menu - e - o for example, maybe only when I press menu twice or
> > so... I haven't found the real reason yet).
> >
> > I'm running MM/LX 2.0 under Software Carousel, with SC swapping to EMS.
>
>Yes, this is exactly that and it also happens when I type too fast on the
>keyboard.  Avi, Andreas, does this description help you to locate and fix
>this anoying bug ?
>
>  \/
>  /ves
>
>
>
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At 4/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Daniel Hertrich writes:
>
> > This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
> > and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
> > personal data to be distributed via such a database.
>
>It seems to me that posting such information to the list is a tacit
>approval, since the list has publicly available archives.

That is precisely as I perceived it. But if one did not post here the entry
should have been kept out of the database.

Avi


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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:13:04 -0500, Stephanie Maks <va3uxb@MAKSYSTEMS.COM> wrote:

> The 200LX external power adaptor is rated, from what I have read, at 12VDC
> with the centre negative and the sleeve positive.  So you wire the centre to
> ground and the sleeve to +12 volts.  Your modem could be hooked to ground
> and +5 volts.

Since the +12 volt and +5 volt outputs of the computer power
supply share a common ground, this would create a short circuit
across the +12 volt supply when the modem was connected to the
200LX. The computer power supply ground (from the +5 volt
supply connected to the modem) would then be connected to the
+12 volt output of the computer power supply (connected to the
sleeve of the 200LX power input.)

The HP Omnibooks 300 to 800 are also designed to use a -12V
supply. If you use a non-isolated cable to connect them to your
automobile power supply, you will get a short circuit if any
grounded part of the Omnibook touches a metal part of the car.
The HP auto adapter is designed with ground isolation to
prevent this problem.

> If you hook the 200LX's centre pin to -12 volts and the sleeve to Ground,
> and hook the modem from ground to +5 volts, you create a maximum difference
> of 17 volts DC between the LX and the modem.

This is not a problem. Their ground connections are at the same
potential, which is the key issue.

>
> My apologies if I'm making a big newbie mistake in this, but I do know know
> electronics quite well, and using the -12v to power one thing and the +5 to
> power another thing and hooking the two things together at ground makes a 17
> volt difference.

Where 17 volt difference is only on the "hot" lines. That is
OK. You need to make sure that lines that will be connected
together, such as the two ground leads, are at the same
potential.

> Also, the '-' feeds on computers tend to be rated for very low amperage,
> because the computer only uses them for digital signalling, not to actually
> power any mechanisms.

This is a good point that needs to be checked.

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:18:27 +0200, Zoran Vignjevic <zoranv@GOV.YU> wrote:

> I think there will be no
> problem with powered PC conected with male 15pin cable (with two wires)
> only to power my modem?

If each device is receiving the correct voltage at the correct
polarity AND the voltage between the two ground leads of the
devices is ZERO when powered up but before you connect them
together, then you should be OK.

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Hallo Daniel,

I have a 700 LX (german language) with world map.
It's a SG62...

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Tom Salwasser wrote:

> I need to search a directory full of dos batch files and replace
> a string of text with another string of text wherever it occurs.
> Is there any quick and easy way to do this without manually
> updating each file? Thanks for your ideas.

Sounds like a job for sed.  You could move the files to a UNIX
or Linux system and do it there, or look at SED--a DOS version
available on SUPER.

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Theodore Heise wrote:
>
> > What was this, a Caeser's Ghost icon?
>
> It was a Pi symbol in the movie, wasn't it?

I believe that is correct.  :)

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:04:44 -0600, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> Yes it did.  As soon as I saw Super was gone I took my 6 now
> useless LXs to a pawn shop and sold the lot for $2.  I thought
> they had just become useless.
>
> I went to the pawn shop to try to get them back but they already
> knew Super was back up and they wanted $200 each for them.  Of
> course I had no choice so I bought them.
>
> Anyway, it was a funny joke.  My panic is my own fault and I
> need to lose weight so not eating for the next 3 months should
> be good for me.

This is great!  And, by the way, I thought it was a good joke.

When I signed on to eBay on April 1, the menu items at the top
of the page were backwards. I thought their site had been
hacked, and then I remembered it was April 1.

In these very troubling times, I think it is good (perhaps
necessary) to have a sense of humor about something!

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Hi Tom

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:16:20 -0600, Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I need to search a directory full of dos batch files and replace
> a string of text with another string of text wherever it occurs.
> Is there any quick and easy way to do this without manually
> updating each file? Thanks for your ideas.

For the search and replace process, you can use the standard tool sed
(stream editor), which I'm not familiar with, or you use GSAR, which is
available on my homepage somewhere.

For the rest, you can use a batch script, using GSAR, it could look
like this:


for %%f in (*.*) do gsar -o -sSEARCHSTRING -rREPLACESTRING %f

But to be sure it works correctly please re-check the GSAR help and the
DOS batch "for" syntax...

GTX
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> playing around with my new 700LX, I found two very(!) interesting
> pieces of software in ROM (D:\BIN)
>
> lamptsr.com and comtsr.com.
>
> Both are (c) 1994-95 by HP, and are called by default from autoexec.bat.
>
Newer (c. 1997) versions of these are on SUPER. See:

IRDA Printer Drivers (20 KB) added 10/13/1997 (Driver)
Version 1.097 by Nicholas Chan

Drivers and TSR to allow the HP 200LX to print using infrared to printers
like the HP 5P. Only works with built-in apps. These drivers
have a new maintaner and he has made some improvements since their initial
release. Freeware - unsupported.

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Theodore Heise wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> > I need to search a directory full of dos batch files and replace
> > a string of text with another string of text wherever it occurs.
> > Is there any quick and easy way to do this without manually
> > updating each file? Thanks for your ideas.
>
> Sounds like a job for sed.  You could move the files to a UNIX
> or Linux system and do it there, or look at SED--a DOS version
> available on SUPER.

   In a real pinch EDLIN should work as well.  If you have
a favorite editor that uses only text commands (does not
use function keys), it should work.  I believe vi and its
clones would work.  Make a script that does your edit, saves
the edited file, then exits the editor, and use I/O redirection
to feed it to the editor in a BATch file to do all the files.

   Else you could write a macro for an editor like the
WordPerfect editor that would do the specific edit and file
save with one keystroke.  Depending on what your favorite
editor is, and how many files need updating, this could be
the easiest thing to do.

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<<Another good site is www.palmtoppaper.net.>>

Actually we're www.palmtoppaper.com.  The site contains 8.5 years of the
archives of our publication The HP Palmtop Paper plus and HP 200LX store of
software, accessories, and upgrade info.

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Good advice!

As we all know, electronics run on smoke, and if you let the
smoke out, they won't work anymore!

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Daniel, Bob, et al;

I give permission for my name and e-mail address to be included
in the HPLX User Database, as long as it is NEVER used for
unsolicited commercial e-mail. I think that is the concern that
most people have - otherwise, I'm glad to be available to help
out those who need assistance.

BTW: Many thanks to Daniel, Bob and others for all they do for
the HPLX community.

Richard A. Smith
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Victor Roberts wrote:

> > Anyway, it was a funny joke.  My panic is my own fault and I
> > need to lose weight so not eating for the next 3 months should
> > be good for me.
>
> This is great!  And, by the way, I thought it was a good joke.
>

Anyhow we all agree it was SUPER yoke.
There are slightly diferrent opinions if the yoke was SUPER :)
Lot of us taught SUPER became a joke.

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At 4/3/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Daniel, Bob, et al;
>
>I give permission for my name and e-mail address to be included
>in the HPLX User Database, as long as it is NEVER used for
>unsolicited commercial e-mail.

How can you be sure this will not happen?

I am not trying to make troubles for Daniel and Bob with tis, because I
appreciate their excellent work for this community A LOT - but I am
concerned about such a permission. Maybe you want to remove your email
address to minimize the likelihood that your entry will be useful for a
commercial email?

I think the permission as you gave places an onus on daniel and Bob that
they cannot possibly comply with.

>  I think that is the concern that
>most people have - otherwise, I'm glad to be available to help
>out those who need assistance.


Yes, I think you are right. This is probably the concern of many here.


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Hi friends

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:09:34 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:

> I give permission for my name and e-mail address to be included
> in the HPLX User Database, as long as it is NEVER used for
> unsolicited commercial e-mail. I think that is the concern that
> most people have - otherwise, I'm glad to be available to help
> out those who need assistance.

Yes, I think this is what most people are thinking about.
I would like to throw in another idea here, which can be discussed:

I agreed with Bob that we definitely won't collect permissions
from everyone (although thanks
to Avi for the volunteering, but we think it is too much work and not
really necessary). But we could do the following:

The GDB is zipped and the zip is password protected. So it will not be
possible to any person or robot to get to the info in the database
without knowing the password.

So we can post the password here in the HPLX list, this would assure
that list members have easily access to the data, but in addition, for
non-list-members, which might have an interest in the data, we can put
an email link on the web page for a password request.
So we can everytime decide on our own, if we give the password to the
interested person or not.

This would increase data protection, but still you had to trust us a
little. ;-)

What about that idea?

Again:
I would like to encourage _everyone_ who has concerns about his data
beeing mentioned in the database, to download the database and check if
there is no info which shouldn't be there!
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb.zip
password: "unofficial" (without quotes).


GTX
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hi Daniel,

On 3 Apr 2002 at 7:39, Theodore Heise wrote:

> > This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
> > and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
> > personal data to be distributed via such a database.
>
> It seems to me that posting such information to the list is a tacit
> approval, since the list has publicly available archives.  I understand
> that having all addresses collected in a single file makes it somewhat
> more easily available, but think that anyone who is searching at that
> level wouldn't have any trouble searching the archives.
>
> By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of his efforts
> on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been revitalized
> over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and enthusiasm.
>
I agree with everything said before.

For me sending my name and address to the list was a tacit approval
to include it in the database.

One way to keep the information private would be to send the database
only to people who agreed to be listed in the database. It would
maybe also stimulate some more to participate.
What do you think about that? It should be technically not so
difficult to manage this. My email program could do the job with a
distribution list and a membership scan.

Werner


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Hi,=20
I have been given an elderly, but very good condition 2Mb HP100LX, but =
it seems to be eating batteries even when not powered up!
As a test I put a fresh set of Hi Quality Alkalines in, and left the =
unit Off for about 4 weeks.=20
When I restarted, setup reported a 1/2 charge.
A couple of weeks later I tried to power up to check charge, but the =
batteries didn't have enough life to keep the Palmtop on, so another =
fresh set were required.
When I go to App Manager, the only other program running is Filer which =
will not allow itself to be closed - which I assume is correct.

Before finding this List, I had posted my question to =
alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp, asking if this was normal. A kind respodee =
mentioned that his original 100LX had been very frugal for a long time, =
then suddenly started eating batteries such that it became unusable. A =
later 200LX also displayed a similar problem - he suspected a fault in =
the power circuit for both cases.

Has any one else seen this or could suggest a fix or work around?
Given the age of the unit and the fact that I am based in the UK - if =
the problem requires sending of to the US for repair, is it worth it or =
should I just look for a more modern machine?
Any advice gratefully accepted.

The current test uses a set of 1600MAh NiMHs and reconfig to NiCads - =
still going, but I'm missing the battery charge meter!

Regards
 Malcolm

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been given an elderly, but very =
good=20
condition&nbsp;2Mb HP100LX, but it&nbsp;seems to be eating batteries =
even when=20
not powered up!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a test I put a fresh set of Hi =
Quality Alkalines=20
in, and left the unit Off for about 4 weeks. <BR>When I restarted, setup =

reported a 1/2 charge.<BR>A couple of weeks later I tried to power up to =
check=20
charge, but the batteries didn't have enough life to keep the Palmtop =
on, so=20
another fresh set were required.<BR>When I go to App Manager, the only =
other=20
program running is Filer which will not allow itself to be closed - =
which I=20
assume is correct.<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Before finding this List, I had posted =
my question=20
to alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp, asking if this was normal. A kind respodee=20
mentioned that his original 100LX had been very frugal for a long time, =
then=20
suddenly started eating batteries such that it became unusable. A later =
200LX=20
also displayed a similar problem - he suspected a fault in the power =
circuit for=20
both cases.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has any one else seen this or could =
suggest a fix=20
or work around?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Given the age of the unit and the fact =
that I am=20
based in the UK -&nbsp;if the problem requires sending of to the US for =
repair,=20
is it worth it or should I just look for a more modern =
machine?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any advice gratefully =
accepted.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The current&nbsp;test uses a set of =
1600MAh NiMHs=20
and reconfig to&nbsp;NiCads - still going, but I'm missing the battery =
charge=20
meter!</FONT></DIV>
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>By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of his >efforts
>on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been >revitalized
>over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and >enthusiasm.

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I agree. Thanks Daniel and Bob for all your hard work. By the way, if you
are so careful about your personal information being known by others don't
send a message to a public list including all of your personal data!!!   :)

Hi, I am Inigo Martinez de Azagra and  I live in Bilbao.(Spain)
Whispering: " Don't tell anybody. It's a secret!!"     ;)





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Usually the -12v is pretty limited, but if it is over say 700 mA you can
drive an LX off it, though not an Omnibook, and connect the modem as well,
but, _first_ check whether both grounds are 0 to each other. And then there
is a 17V differential, FWIW.
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> Once more, thanks, but:
> There are two power connectors to motherboard
>
> (italian version:
> 6.3.6) Connettori di alimentazione scheda madre
>
>
> pin     funzione P8            pin     funzione P9
> ---     ------------           ---     -----------
> 1       Power Good             1       Massa
> 2       +5 V (o non collegato) 2       Massa
> 3       +12 V                  3       -5 V
> 4       -12 V                  4       +5 V
> 5       Massa                  5       +5 V
> 6       Massa                  6       +5 V  )
>
> as You see there is -12V also...
> Does it help?
> TIA,Zoran
>
>
>
> Michel Bel wrote:
>
> > Zoran Vignjevic wrote:
> > > So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my external
> > > pocket modem what takes 5V :)
> > > Zoran
> > >
> > I would be VEERRRYY careful in this case:
> >
> > In this case some things are _extremely_ non-obvious!!!
> >
> > The LX takes a negative tip 12V, e.g. you make _ground_ the main, and
the
> > +12V becomes ground for the LX.
> >
> > The modem is most probably a positive tip 5V. Ground is then 0V. So you
> > might shortcircuit the 12V supply OVER YOUR PRECIOUS PORTABLE MODEM OR
CABLE
> > if signal ground and power ground are joined.
> >
> > So the message is:
> >
> > Do Not Connect Devices Which Are On The Same Power Supply Unless You Are
> > 200% Sure What You Are Doing.
> >
> > (sorry for the capital shouting, but this is extremely necessary)
>
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:21:15 -0800, A Meshar <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> How can you be sure this will not happen?
>
> I am not trying to make troubles for Daniel and Bob with tis, because I
> appreciate their excellent work for this community A LOT - but I am
> concerned about such a permission. Maybe you want to remove your email
> address to minimize the likelihood that your entry will be useful for a
> commercial email?

I think you are trying to stop something that cannot be
stopped. As I reported here, I set up the account I am using
for this list and then did not use it for ANYTHING for about 3
months. When I went to set up the list to use this account I
had about 50 SPAM messages sitting on the server. This is for
an address I NEVER used. My ISP says that commercial mailers
use computer programs that just try out all possible letter
combinations and note those that are rejected and those that
are not. They then sell these lists to other people. So, even
if you keep your e-mail address out of this database, you are
still going to get SPAM.

BTW - I have become very aggressive about forwarding SPAM to
the abuse mailbox at the senders address. I have had at least
three SPAM accounts closed in the last month. In spite of the
general dislike for Microsoft around here, I found it
interesting that abuse@msn.com was very responsive. The least
responsive ISP is AOL. I have yet to get a reply from
abuse@aol.com.

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:14:34 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>
> The GDB is zipped and the zip is password protected. So it will not be
> possible to any person or robot to get to the info in the database
> without knowing the password.
>
> So we can post the password here in the HPLX list,

Yes, this is OK also.

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:05:45 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:

> As we all know, electronics run on smoke, and if you let the
> smoke out, they won't work anymore!

And, we all know that light bulb are just "dark suckers", that
is, they do not generate light, they just absorb darkness.<g>
I have a full discussion of dark suckers if you would like to
see it.

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> One way to keep the information private would be to send the
database
> only to people who agreed to be listed in the database. It
would
> maybe also stimulate some more to participate.
> What do you think about that? It should be technically not so
> difficult to manage this. My email program could do the job
with a
> distribution list and a membership scan.

Excellent idea!

Barry

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Subject: TECH: HP100LX - Low battery life = big problem?


> I have been given an elderly, but very good condition
> 2Mb HP100LX, but it seems to be eating batteries
> even when not powered up!
> As a test I put a fresh set of Hi Quality Alkalines in,
> and left the unit Off for about 4 weeks.
> When I restarted, setup reported a 1/2 charge.
> A couple of weeks later I tried to power up to check
> charge, but the batteries didn't have enough life to
> keep the Palmtop on, so another fresh set were
> required.

That's not too bad.  When I used alkaline I got about those same
results.  The LX doesn't turn off, it' just goes to sleep.  That
way it can still beep for appointments, etc.

I use 1600 mah nimh batteries now.  I charge them externally and
swap them every 3 or 4 weeks whether I use the unit or not.

> When I go to App Manager, the only other program
> running is Filer which will not allow itself to be closed
> - which I assume is correct.

There's a program called clsfiler or closeflr or some such that
will fix that.  It's on Super.  It lets you shut down filer to
save memory.

> The current test uses a set of 1600MAh NiMHs and
> reconfig to NiCads - still going, but I'm missing the
> battery charge meter!

I don't like to use the LX as a battery charger.  I use an
external charger and swap batteries.  There are people here that
know much more about electronics than I do that tell me there's
no harm done by charging in the LX but I don't trust it.

Barry

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> What are you planning to do?

I eventually want to be able to go on the net, download a few web pages
(using get) and perhaps retrieving emails (using Post/LX).
I used to do this occasionally with my old Sagem GSM, but that was through a
cable not IR.

I have a registered version of WWW/LX (version 2.1) and I have also tried
with an unregistered version 3.1a.

I don't plan to use GPRS, so I guess it should work even with version 2.1 ?

I have firmware version R2M on the T39.

By the way I have finally managed to get IR.EXE to send Vcards from the LX
to the T39, but I can't make it work the other way. It is not a big issue
because I don't really intend to be using IR.EXE anyway. It was just an
attempt to get something simpler than WWW/LX to work, in attempt to cut out
all possible modem and logon problems, before I moved on.

> Try this setup:
>
>
> [IrDA]
> Port=-1
> OmniGo=0
> Modem=0
> PPP=1
> Baud=38400
> My_IP=0.0.0.0
> DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
> DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
> Script=CHAP_Script
> ModemInit=AT&F
> Dial=ATDTxxxxxx
> Login=xxxxx
> Password=xxxxxx

I did. It doesn't work.
On the LX I get a IR connection failed after some seconds. On the T39 I see
no signs of action at all. Shouldn't I see it on the display if it actually
was trying to dial out ?
Am I supposed to do anything with the T39 in order to prepare it for the IR
commands from the LX ?
I just put it beside the LX on the table in the normal ready mode.

> Did you try another T39 or another LX to be sure it is not a hardware
problem?

I don't have access to another T39, but I do have a spare LX in the attic
somewhere (waiting for my current LX to die, which it refuses to do). I
guess I could try and see if I could get the two LX's to speak IR together.
I have done that in the past with a colleagues LX, so unless it broke since
then it should still work.
But it seems that I do get some level of communication, judging from the
feedback from WWW/LX and IR.EXE, and also the fact that I have now
successfully managed to actually transfer a Vcard in one direction.

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Tom Salwasser wrote:
> I need to search a directory full of dos batch files and replace
> a string of text with another string of text wherever it occurs.
> Is there any quick and easy way to do this without manually
> updating each file? Thanks for your ideas.

Do you have EDLIN.COM ??  Most people would sneer at using this
old editor but it has a VERY powerful feature; you can command
it via a pipe of commands from a file.

I use it so seldom that I can't write you a tool to do it so the
research is left to the user should you wish to try it.

To edit 1 file this way you'd do something similar to:

  edlin mybat.bat < cmds.txt

Where cmds.txt is the commands you'd issue manually to make the
change using edlin.

To do a whole directory use the FOR command to run the above
sample repeatedly on all the .BAT files in a directory.

Cheers... Russ

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Having not seen any commentary on this post, I'm wondering if the list
maybe dropped it.  Apologies if you've seen this before.

-Kevin


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kevin Ford <200lx@gnosys.biz>
> Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002  05:53:22 AM US/Eastern
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: TECH: Problems with HP-IRDA and 200LX
>
> Hi All-
>
> I'm running a 200LX that has the 64MB RAM upgrade and the doublespeed
> clock upgrade from Times2Tech.  Aside from 200.EXE and associated
> applications, the only other programs in memory are an old Buddy TSR
> (version 2.1a), ZANSI.SYS, KBUF128.SYS (although I've tried unloading
> these in case there are interferences---no luck).  There are also some
> drivers associated with the 64MB RAM upgrade and the doublespeed
> upgrade.  I've not removed these from memory for hopefully obvious
> reasons.  Could the problem be here, though?
>
> With the utility below installed at either COM1 or COM2 as documented
> (I've tried both, but the driver complains when I attempt to use it
> with COM2), I'm trying to print using the 200LX IR port to an HP
> LaserJet 6MP and having no luck in spite of trying many solutions.
>
> I've seen several posts in the archives of this list on doing the same,
> but none shed any light (no pun intended) on my dilemma.
>
> What I have tried and the results:
>
> I've tried printing to the same printer using an IrDA laptop and get
> success, so I know the printer and its IR port work.
>
> I've tried connecting two 200LX machines together using their IR ports
> and get success, so I know that the IR hardware and software on both
> 200LX's is working.  Both of these 200LX's have the 64MB and the
> doublespeed upgrades.  Could the problem be associated with timing and
> the communications over the serial ports?  I thought that the
> doublespeed driver corrected for this...
>
> Redundant check of the IR port of the 200LX using a standard video
> camera indicates light being emitted from the IR port, so I know with
> extra certainty that the IR port on the 200LX is working (thanks to
> Peter W. Borders on this list for this idea).
>
> Using the JETUTIL.EXE utility included with the software below, I get a
> message indicating that the driver is enabled.
>
> Using the 200LX setup utility, I've configured the printer (F3) to use
> each of the IR port, the COM1 port, and the COM2 port (I'm guessing
> that the JetEye driver would like this setting to be COM1 and for the
> driver to be installed at COM1, but that is not clear to me from the
> driver docs) for Interface, the HP LaserJet printer driver, and various
> baud rates (from 300 up to 19200).
>
> With the above settings in the 200LX setup utility, I tried printing to
> the LaserJet 6MP from the MEMO application.  No success, but I can see
> light being emitted from the 200LX IR port if I observe with the video
> camera.
>
> With the same characteristics in the 200LX setup utility, I've tried
> printing to the 6MP from the Lotus123 application and get no success,
> although I do see light being emitted.
>
> So, I'm at my wit's end.  Does anyone have this working?  If so, any
> thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
>
> If you by chance have this driver working on your 200LX and haven't a
> clue as to what I'm doing wrong, would you mind sending me the details
> of your 200LX setup utility (for printing, ie. baud rate, interface,
> printer driver), the printer setup characteristics from Lotus123 (by
> touching "/PP" and reading the information following the word,
> "Interface"), the relevant lines from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT,
> and any other details you think might be helpful?  I'll be forever
> grateful.
>
> FWIW, I seem to have discovered that immediately after a reboot (with
> printer settings in the 200LX setup utility as above), an attempt to
> print from MEMO does generate light at the IR port.  However, if I
> start FILER, then switch back to MEMO and attempt the exact same print
> operation (no other changes to any aspect of the 200LX), the same print
> operation generates NO light at the IR port.  If I then switch back to
> the FILER and quit the FILER, then try to print, I still get no light
> generated at the IR port.  It seems that starting the FILER operates a
> toggle switch that only toggles in one direction (to turn the IR light
> from enabled to disabled).  I halfway expect this sort of behavior with
> Buddy 2.1a loaded (there is a handy feature to turn off the comm ports
> with the touch of the + or - keys), but I get the same behavior with or
> without Buddy loaded.  Any idea what's going on here?  Does FILER run
> the d:\bin\serctl command or something?
>
> Sorry for such a long post, but I figured more detail is better than
> less.
>
> TIA for any help.
>
> ksf
>
>
> IRDA DOS Print Driver (18 KB) added 12/29/1998 (Connectivity)
> Version 1.0 by Extended Systems
>
> HP-IRDA is a utility that will allow you to print from DOS programs
> (including the built-in Lotus 123) through the palmtop's IR port. It
> loads as a device driver and can be run in separate Software Carousel
> sessions. Copyright 1994 Extended Systems.
>

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Richard and Patti Smith wrote:

> I give permission for my name and e-mail address to be included
> in the HPLX User Database, as long as it is NEVER used for
> unsolicited commercial e-mail. I think that is the concern that
> most people have - otherwise, I'm glad to be available to help
> out those who need assistance.

I think people with this concern are in need of a reality check. This list
has public archives (even if Mike's online archive now hides the domain
for posters' addresses, there are still plenty of addresses in the message
bodies due to quoted e-mails). Posting here will most likely result in
your message being indexed by web spiders (Google or other search engines)
or your e-mail address grabbed by e-mail harvesting programs, regardless
of whether you are in the GDB database or not.

I find it highly unlikely that an e-mail harvester will ever try to parse
a GDB file (or any exotic binary file format for that matter), so without
manual extraction by someone it won't happen. And should anyone want to
extract e-mail addresses from the mailing-list for spam purposes, it would
be much more convenient to either use the zipped logs or simply ask the
listserv for a list of hplx-l subscribers (and their e-mail addresses).

For those curious, try sending an e-mail to LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
with the command "review hplx-l by name" (w/o quotes) in the body to
recieve a nicely sorted list of all the subscribers' e-mail addresses and
names, minus those privacy minded 23 people who have chosen to have them
concealed of course...


Regards,

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I, for one, would like to see your "dissertation" on dark suckers

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
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> From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of
> Victor Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:31 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Fluff: SMOKE WARNING
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:05:45 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith
> <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:
>
> > As we all know, electronics run on smoke, and if you let the
> > smoke out, they won't work anymore!
>
> And, we all know that light bulb are just "dark suckers", that
> is, they do not generate light, they just absorb darkness.<g>
> I have a full discussion of dark suckers if you would like to
> see it.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
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Good point.

I can't be sure it will never happen, but I've made my wishes known, and now
everyone on the list knows that I would object to receiving unsolicited
commercial e-mail, a.k.a. SPAM.  It's not as if I will ever have any legal
recourse - especially internationally - but I've made an attempt, at least.
;-)

And, since I can't expect Daniel and Bob to have complete control over how
the database is used, I also release them of any liability as far as the
third-party use of my information is concerned.

I hope that they will include, with the database, a disclaimer that the
information in the database is for personal use only, and is not to be used
for commercial or political purposes.

Thanks, all. Sorry for using up so much bandwidth.

Richard A. Smith


hplxmail@yahoo.com wrote:

> At 4/3/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Daniel, Bob, et al;
> >
> >I give permission for my name and e-mail address to be included
> >in the HPLX User Database, as long as it is NEVER used for
> >unsolicited commercial e-mail.
>
> How can you be sure this will not happen?
>
> I am not trying to make troubles for Daniel and Bob with tis, because I
> appreciate their excellent work for this community A LOT - but I am
> concerned about such a permission. Maybe you want to remove your email
> address to minimize the likelihood that your entry will be useful for a
> commercial email?
>
> I think the permission as you gave places an onus on daniel and Bob that
> they cannot possibly comply with.
>
> >  I think that is the concern that
> >most people have - otherwise, I'm glad to be available to help
> >out those who need assistance.
>
> Yes, I think you are right. This is probably the concern of many here.

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From: "Kevin Ford" <200lx@GNOSYS.BIZ>
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2002 1:41 am

> > With the utility below installed at either COM1 or COM2 as documented
> > (I've tried both, but the driver complains when I attempt to use it
> > with COM2), I'm trying to print using the 200LX IR port to an HP
> > LaserJet 6MP and having no luck in spite of trying many solutions.

I'm pretty sure this should be COM1.  9600 baud is generally a safe starting
point for IrDA comms.

I've not personally used the driver you're discussing, but have you tried
irda097.zip on SUPER?  I have had success in the past using (I think) a older
version of this driver, with a HP copyright(?) between a vanilla 1MB 200LX and
a LJ 6MP.

Beware the 6MP seems to be very fussy about angle; it needs to be within 5
degrees and I got a result at about 12" (30cm) window-to-window.  The status
LED next to the IR window on the 6MP should come on when a link (in IrLAP
sense, meaning it won't light up until you hit Print on the LX) is active.

> > If I then switch back to
> > the FILER and quit the FILER, then try to print, I still get no light
> > generated at the IR port.  It seems that starting the FILER operates a
> > toggle switch that only toggles in one direction (to turn the IR light
> > from enabled to disabled).  [..] Does FILER run
> > the d:\bin\serctl command or something?

Effectively, yes.  Remember that Filer does serial comms too and probably
doesn't bother to save and restore state.  Try setting the Communications |
Remote Settings interface to Infrared, my money's that it will work.

I wonder whether the JetEye really IS an IrDA compliant interface.  If you
look at the Palmtop Paper archive
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/1/ptp10017.htm) I suspect that the JetEye
is a HPSIR transceiver with some trickery in there to do rudimentary
handshaking and buffering.
Surely it predates IrDA?  In which case, IRJETEYE.SYS isn't going to do
anything useful at all.

In summary: try the other driver (irda097.zip) and see what you get.

Michael

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Hi Vic

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:31:15 -0800, Victor Roberts <RobertsV@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> And, we all know that light bulb are just "dark suckers", that
> is, they do not generate light, they just absorb darkness.<g>
> I have a full discussion of dark suckers if you would like to
> see it.

You want to say, the "nothing" really exist and where we take it away,
there will be something?

Okay, let's follow-up-to sci.philosophy.tech or sci.physics... ;-)

GTX
daniel

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> > So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my
> > external pocket modem what takes 5V :)

Do check also if your modem needs DC or AC (many are supplied with AC=20
because of RS232 standards which needs negative voltage)

> Do Not Connect Devices Which Are On The Same Power Supply Unless
> You Are 200% Sure What You Are Doing.

--=20
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I've checked it with external connection to 4 NiMH AA baterries (+4.8V in
the center...
If I connect baterry powered 200lx and modem powered with some DC, what
about muttual ground?

Marc BERLIOUX wrote:

> > > So it is made for me, when I am at home, for my 200lx and my
> > > external pocket modem what takes 5V :)
>
> Do check also if your modem needs DC or AC (many are supplied with AC
> because of RS232 standards which needs negative voltage)
>
> > Do Not Connect Devices Which Are On The Same Power Supply Unless
> > You Are 200% Sure What You Are Doing.
>
> --
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> > With the utility below installed at either COM1 or COM2 as documented

Jetutil, Irda-dos? I use the drivers and setup that come with the IRDA200 or
IRDA097 package (SUPER) as mentioned by others. I have tried various things,
including the Jeteye drivers, but have forgotten since I am happy with the
above.

> > Using the 200LX setup utility, I've configured the printer (F3) to use
> > each of the IR port, the COM1 port, and the COM2 port (I'm guessing
> > that the JetEye driver would like this setting to be COM1 and for the
> > driver to be installed at COM1,

I have the LX set up to use the IR port for printing at 115200 through a
Jeteye Printer ESI 9580 connected to a HP 310 inkjet. I have one weekly
print job from the LX, which is a Lotus file. I print to file, and then in
Memo delete some lines which have no meaning for that week, and print from
Memo to the printer. I carry the print with me in my pocket agenda (still
easier to look at than allways using he LX for that!). In order to fit the
sheet on a half A4 page, I use an initialisation string in Memo's Print
Setup for a small, but readible font, and suitable lines per inch:
\027&l12D\027(s20h6v.

Other printing from the LX is just occasional for me, and works fine from
the built-in applications. The same setup is excellent to compactly print
software documentation in two columns, by feeding the same page a second
time, upside down, and then cutting it in the length. I remember printing
directly from filer would require a trick, which I have forgotten. I have
not done that in years. For more fancy printing, I use the PC.

Geert.

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Since batteries are not normally connected to an external "ground"
connection, also called "earthed" in some countries, the use of batteries
should not create a ground problem. When using batteries, there is only one
mutual ground between the two systems, and that is created by the line
carrying the signals. The same is true if you use two isolated power
supplies, as their outputs are isolated from the building ground. You only
have a problem with you try to use one power supply for two devices that
operate at different voltages or polarities. Then you have to make sure you
do not cross-connect the ground from one output to the hot lead of another
output. That is what was being initially proposed.

Vic Roberts


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> I've checked it with external connection to 4 NiMH AA baterries (+4.8V in
> the center...
> If I connect baterry powered 200lx and modem powered with some DC, what
> about muttual ground?
>

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I heard about this several years ago.  When you think about it, it makes =
sense.  After all, where else does the dark go when you turn on a 'light =
bulb'?  It gets sucked into the bulb and kept there till you turn it =
off.  :)

-Stephanie

> And, we all know that light bulb are just "dark suckers", that
> is, they do not generate light, they just absorb darkness.<g>
> I have a full discussion of dark suckers if you would like to
> see it.

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Well I'll be damned, such a beastie does exist.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2013428171=09

I wonder what kind of drivers you need?

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I couldn't resist:
                   The Dark Sucker Theory

    For years, it has been believed that electric bulbs emit light,
but recent information has proved otherwise.  Electric bulbs don't
emit light; they suck dark.  Thus, we call these bulbs Dark Suckers.
    The Dark Sucker Theory and the existence of dark suckers prove
that dark has mass and is heavier than light.
    First, the basis of the Dark Sucker Theory is that electric bulbs
suck dark.  For example, take the Dark Sucker in the room you are in.
There is much less dark right next to it than there is elsewhere.  The
larger the Dark Sucker, the greater its capacity to suck dark.
Dark Suckers in the parking lot have a much greater capacity to suck
dark than the ones in this room.
    So with all things, Dark Suckers don't last forever.  Once they are
full of dark, they can no longer suck.  This is proven by the dark spot
on a full Dark Sucker.
    A candle is a primitive Dark Sucker.  A new candle has a white wick.
You can see that after the first use, the wick turns black, representing
all the dark that has been sucked into it.  If you put a pencil next to
the wick of an operating candle, it will turn black.  This is because
it got in the way of the dark flowing into the candle.  One of the
disadvantages of these primitive Dark Suckers is their limited range.
    There are also portable Dark Suckers.  In these, the bulbs can't
handle all the dark by themselves and must be aided by a Dark Storage
Unit.  When the Dark Storage Unit is full, it must be either emptied
or replaced before the portable Dark Sucker can operate again.
    Dark has mass.  When dark goes into a Dark Sucker, friction from
the mass generates heat.  Thus, it is not wise to touch an operating
Dark Sucker.  Candles present a special problem as the mass must travel
into a solid wick instead of through clear glass.  This generates a
great amount of heat and therefore it's not wise to touch an operating
candle.
    Also, dark is heavier than light.  If you were to swim just below
the surface of the lake, you would see a lot of light.  If you were to
slowly swim deeper and deeper, you would notice it getting darker and
darker.  When you get really deep, you would be in total darkness.  This
is because the heavier dark sinks to the bottom of the lake and the
lighter light floats at the top.  The is why it is called light.
    Finally, we must prove that dark is faster than light.  If you were
to stand  in a lit room in front of a closed, dark closet, and slowly
opened the closet door, you would see the light slowly enter the closet.
But since dark is so fast, you would not be able to see the dark leave
the closet.
    Next time you see an electric bulb, remember that it is a Dark Sucker.
---------------------

See also: http://home.netcom.com/~rogermw/darksucker.html

John

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I heard about this several years ago.  When you think about it, it makes
sense.  After all, where else does the dark go when you turn on a 'light
bulb'?  It gets sucked into the bulb and kept there till you turn it off.
:)

-Stephanie

> And, we all know that light bulb are just "dark suckers", that
> is, they do not generate light, they just absorb darkness.<g>
> I have a full discussion of dark suckers if you would like to
> see it.

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Many thanks to all who provided help on my text search and
replace question. Being advised to used edlin with a piped input
script made me dig deeper into my own editor, kedit. Kedit has a
built in Rexx macro facility and a profile program that executes
once at invocation. I created a batch file that invokes kedit
for each batch file that needs updating. This was easy to do by
redirecting the output of a dir command to a file, which I them
manipulated. I modified my profile script with kedit "change"
and "file" commands and voila, dozens of batch files are
updated.

Best Regards,
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Having much experience with the flow , control, psi, and billows per
minute of electronic smoke, I too am interested in this new field of
light absorbtion.

Ed Woodward


On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:02:18 -0500 Systems-Consulting
<Sales@SYSTEMS-CONSULTING.COM> writes:
> I, for one, would like to see your "dissertation" on dark suckers
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
> 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
> >
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Barry wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Malcolm, Devon & India Campbell"
> > The current test uses a set of 1600MAh NiMHs and
> > reconfig to NiCads - still going, but I'm missing the
> > battery charge meter!

AFAIK, if NiMH's were charged and left for a while, there is a trickle
discharge effect that drains the battery.  If left for a while, the
batteries would eventually completely discharge.  I think the rate for
NiMH's (please correct me if I'm way off) is about 20% per month.  I did
some research on rechargables when I bought my digital camera.

> I don't like to use the LX as a battery charger.  I use an
> external charger and swap batteries.  There are people here that
> know much more about electronics than I do that tell me there's
> no harm done by charging in the LX but I don't trust it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the only rechargable
batteries that could be charged on the LX were NiCD?  There's no option
in the battery type screen for NiMH.

On a similar note, for the last few months, my DS 32M 200lx has been
draining batteries like they're candy.  I'm usually having the change
the 1600MAh NiMH's almost on a daily basis.  I switched from alkalines
because it was going through them at almost the same rate.  Also, if I
don't plug the LX into the wall when I change the batteries, sometimes
it resets itself and I lose the contents of the internal 32M.  I've
since stopped using it in favor for an external CF card.

Any ideas on why this could be happening?  Is it time for another visit
to the Thaddeus HPLX hospital?

Thanks!

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Anyone has any experience with this? Are there any
programs? guidance?

Thanks in advance for any information.

Avi

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Subject: Barcode processing with Palmtops?
| Anyone has any experience with this? Are there any
| programs? guidance?

Is the following of any help? Just notes, no experience myself.

"<Here is how to connect a 200LX as a terminal to a laser
scanner card and set it up for programming. Hope its clear!
Programming the Microscan scanner board:GBIprice Instructions to
enable RPK to Read single and dual fields. (Pako and CX)
1. Connect a terminal. If using the HP200LX with datacomm and
the nine pin serial cable with a 25 pin to 9 pin adapter use a
25 pin male to 25 pin female cable to
hookup to the scanner port. Connect the pins on the cable pin 1
to pin 1, pin 2 to pin 2, pin 3 to pin 3, and pin 7 to pin 7.
2. Set protocol to 9600 baud, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no
parity.
3. Enter <D>. Enter all three characters. Use capitals.
4.Press the space bar to see the following response:
Main-->Operations
5. Press the space bar again to see, response:
Main-->Code Types
6. Press the Enter key.                Code Types-->Scanner #1
7. Press the Enter Key.                Scanner #1-->Narrow
Margins:Disabled
8. Press the space bar twice to see:               Scanner
#1-->Codabar
9. Press the enter key.
10 Press the space bar 7 times until you see:
Scanner #1-->Codabar-->Barcode format=single
11. Press the enter key.
12. Continue to press the space bar until you see:
Scanner #1-->Codabar-->Barcode format=single&dual-->single &
dual.
13. Press the enter key.
14. Press the esc key.
15. Select E for exit.
16. Select Y for save. Card should beep.
17. Reconnect the cable that comes from the RPK to P6 connector.
Now the scanner should read both types of bags.
NOTE 1
1. N key or space bar key scrolls forward.
2. B key scrolls backward.
3. Enter key enables or accesses various options.
4. M key returns to the previous menu.
5. ESC key gives the option to exit or return to the main menu.
6. <D> entered exactly with all three keys starts editing
program
7. <C> starts scanner read rate test.
NOTE 2
COMMUNICATIONS
baud rate=9600
parity=none
stop bit=one
data bit=eight
RS422=enabled
LRC=disabled
Protocol (menu)
      point to point=enabled
Preamble=^M
Preamble=disabled
Postamble=^M^J
Postamble=Enabled
OPERATIONS
triggering mode=continous one output
end of read cycle=timeout
timeout=50
serial trigger character=^]
ext. trigger level=positive
no read message=^U
no read message=enabled
barcode output=enabled
when to output=as soon as possible
package detect=disabled
# of reads before a good decode=
                           1 (on ultima 35)
                           3 (on manual login)
Match Code=enabled
Code Types (menu)
narrow margins=disabled
transition count=70
code 39
     status=disabled
codabar
     status=enabled
     start&stop match=disabled
     start&stop output=enabled
     large intercharacter gap=enabled
     partial dual field=disabled
     envelope start character=C
     envelope character must match=disabled
     barcode format=single and dual
     fixed code length=disabled
     code length 3-31=10
     12 of 5 status=enabled
USER OUTPUTS
beeper=disabled(manual login)
       enabled (ultima 35)
relay driver=mismatch or no read
new master pin=disabled
good/bad polarity=positive
good/bad pulse width=5

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On Wednesday, April 3, 2002, at 02:02 PM, Bruce Martin wrote:

>> playing around with my new 700LX, I found two very(!) interesting
>> pieces of software in ROM (D:\BIN)
>>
>> lamptsr.com and comtsr.com.
>>
>> Both are (c) 1994-95 by HP, and are called by default from
>> autoexec.bat.
>>
> Newer (c. 1997) versions of these are on SUPER. See:
>

Are these really newer?  The splash screens seem to indicate otherwise.
The drivers both state that they are (c) 1994-95.  As far as version
numbers go, the executable lamptsr.com from this zip file lists itself
as version 0.02 while comtsr.com from this zip lists itself as version
0.01.

I'm guessing that these drivers (from irda097.zip) must be _older_---not
newer---than the drivers (version 3.10) that Daniel Hertrich writes
about in his original post with this subject.  But maybe the author of
the irda097.zip didn't update the splash screens after making his recent
changes?  Or is there some kind of mixup on the SUPER site that has the
link pointing to the wrong zip file?

After some suggestions for trying them (thanks Michael, Werner, and
Geert)j I'm currently experimenting with the drivers in irda097.zip and
having no success thus far.  I'm not clear on one thing though: how do
the system applications like MEMO make the connection to use the
lamptsr.com and comtsr.com IrDA drivers (rather than the default SIR
driver) when printing using the infrared interface?  Is that what
IRDA.TSR in C:\_DAT\ does?  If not, what does IRDA.TSR do?  Should I see
IRDA.TSR in memory when I do a "mem /c" command or is the memory used by
that TSR included under 200 (System Manager)?

> IRDA Printer Drivers (20 KB) added 10/13/1997 (Driver)
> Version 1.097 by Nicholas Chan
>
> Drivers and TSR to allow the HP 200LX to print using infrared to
> printers
> like the HP 5P. Only works with built-in apps. These drivers
> have a new maintaner and he has made some improvements since their
> initial
> release. Freeware - unsupported.
>

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Kevin Ford wrote:

> After some suggestions for trying them (thanks Michael, Werner, and
> Geert)j I'm currently experimenting with the drivers in irda097.zip and
> having no success thus far.  I'm not clear on one thing though: how do
> the system applications like MEMO make the connection to use the
> lamptsr.com and comtsr.com IrDA drivers (rather than the default SIR
> driver) when printing using the infrared interface?  Is that what
> IRDA.TSR in C:\_DAT\ does?  If not, what does IRDA.TSR do?  Should I see
> IRDA.TSR in memory when I do a "mem /c" command or is the memory used by
> that TSR included under 200 (System Manager)?

I hesitated to say anything because I can't find my complete
setup, but I can say I've used the jeteye driver to print from
WordPerfect 5.1 on my DS 200LX to a Citizen pN60 via infrared.

If I recall correctly, my config.sys (this is what I've lost) had
the line "DEVICE=C:\PATH\IRJETEYE.SYS COM1" in it.  The WP printer
driver is configured to print to COM1 at 2400 baud with no parity,
7 bits, 1 stop bit (N,7,1) and XON/XOFF control.

After booting with the modified config.sys, I had to invoke
"serctl /i", confirm power to serial port was on (?), and
then enable the driver "jetutil."  It worked pretty well, but
I used it too rarely to justify packing the printer.

For what it's worth.

--
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Fluff: SMOKE WARNING


I heard about this several years ago.  When you think about it,
it makes sense.  After all, where else does the dark go when you
turn on a 'light bulb'?  It gets sucked into the bulb and kept
there till you turn it off.  :)

-Stephanie

> And, we all know that light bulb are just "dark suckers", that
> is, they do not generate light, they just absorb darkness.<g>
> I have a full discussion of dark suckers if you would like to
> see it.

I read recently that the reason light bulbs stop working is that
they become too full of dark, and that research is being done to
apply mpg type compression to the dark to extend the life of the
bulb.

I wonder if, when this is perfected, uses might be found for the
compressed dark.

I mentioned this in front of a group not long ago and one of the
group, well known to be a satanist, had a knowing smile.  I'm
not sure why.

Barry

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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:13 AM
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> I couldn't resist:
>                    The Dark Sucker Theory
>
>     Also, dark is heavier than light.  If you were to swim
just below
> the surface of the lake, you would see a lot of light.  If you
were to
> slowly swim deeper and deeper, you would notice it getting
darker and
> darker.  When you get really deep, you would be in total
darkness.  This
> is because the heavier dark sinks to the bottom of the lake
and the
> lighter light floats at the top.  The is why it is called
light.

I think it's debatable whether this proves that dark is heavier
than light or if it proves only that dark water is heavier than
light water.  I think the latter, since if dark were generally
heavier than light, the dark of the universe would displace the
light surrounding the earth and the earth would be dark and the
universe would be light.

How does that huge dark sucker, the sun, fit into the picture?

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:44:26 -0500, Ulrich Allen wrote:

> I am the one person with the combo problem.
> New to me is magic=0 and compress=0.
> But even that didn't help so far.
> The third part of the combo is VIAGInterkom as provider.
> At present time I don't know the DNS of VI.
> That is the last part which differs from Andreas G's setup.
> I'll try to get the IP-adress and let you know.
> Thank you for caring Avi anyway.

You have the special version of Www.exe? I thought it was only
necessary when you had a Ericsson. But maybe the Nokia 6310 has the
same bug as the Ericsson's?

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Date:         Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:07:19 -0600
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Eduardo Seudsnimo wrote:
>
> Well I'll be damned, such a beastie does exist.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2013428171
>
> I wonder what kind of drivers you need?

If you're running Windoze 98SE, it may recognize the drive when you put
a card in, at least that's the way mine works. Mine has a drive mount w/
2 slots that fits in a 3.5" bay, and connects to an ISA card that has 2
more slots. I also have a CF->PCMCIA adapter that lets me copy files to
the desktop.

BTW, I have a spare drive with 2 slots that also connects to an ISA card
(card has no slots) that I can sell for $26 shipped w/i CONUS. I
accidentally bid in 2 auctions and won both.

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This thing is different. it uses a serial port.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu]On Behalf Of
> David R. Birch
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: serial port PCMCIA card reader
>=20
>=20
> Eduardo Seudsnimo wrote:
> >
> > Well I'll be damned, such a beastie does exist.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2013428171
> >
> > I wonder what kind of drivers you need?
>=20
> If you're running Windoze 98SE, it may recognize the drive when you =
put
> a card in, at least that's the way mine works. Mine has a drive mount =
w/
> 2 slots that fits in a 3.5" bay, and connects to an ISA card that has =
2
> more slots. I also have a CF->PCMCIA adapter that lets me copy files =
to
> the desktop.
>=20
> BTW, I have a spare drive with 2 slots that also connects to an ISA =
card
> (card has no slots) that I can sell for $26 shipped w/i CONUS. I
> accidentally bid in 2 auctions and won both.
>=20
> David
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At 4/3/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of his >efforts
> >on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been >revitalized
> >over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and >enthusiasm.
>
> >--
> >Ted Heise     <theise@netins.net>     West Lafayette, IN, USA
>
>I agree. Thanks Daniel and Bob for all your hard work. By the way, if you
>are so careful about your personal information being known by others don't
>send a message to a public list including all of your personal data!!!   :)

I do not mind posting in the list. I _DO_ mind packaging the information
nicely for spammers, and giving it to them.


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Date:         Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:58:42 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HPLX users database offline! :-(
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At 4/3/02 +0200, you wrote:
>hi Daniel,
>
>On 3 Apr 2002 at 7:39, Theodore Heise wrote:
>
> > > This is basically true and okay, we are of course open for corrections
> > > and criticism. And I can understand that people don't want their
> > > personal data to be distributed via such a database.
> >
> > It seems to me that posting such information to the list is a tacit
> > approval, since the list has publicly available archives.  I understand
> > that having all addresses collected in a single file makes it somewhat
> > more easily available, but think that anyone who is searching at that
> > level wouldn't have any trouble searching the archives.
> >
> > By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of his efforts
> > on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been revitalized
> > over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and enthusiasm.
> >
>I agree with everything said before.
>
>For me sending my name and address to the list was a tacit approval
>to include it in the database.

This is what I saw people do, and assumed that if I do not post it, then
name/address will not appear.

>One way to keep the information private would be to send the database
>only to people who agreed to be listed in the database. It would
>maybe also stimulate some more to participate.
>What do you think about that? It should be technically not so
>difficult to manage this. My email program could do the job with a
>distribution list and a membership scan.

I think this is very creative and very good. It'll work and has good
incentives, too.

Avi


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Date:         Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:10:24 -0800
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Subject:      Re: GPRS and 6310
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No, he does not have the special version. He asked me for it, and I did not
send it because it was specific to Ericsson. Now we seem to have another
manufacturer with what seems to be the same problem (or not). Just like you
guessed.

I am really not enthusiastic to send out special versions of www/lx to
everyone. Either it is a problem in our code and we should have just one
version, not special versions, or it is the manufacturer (Ericsson at
first, and who knows, maybe Nokia too?) problem and they should fix it. I
don't think we should support manufacturers bad codes in _our_ code.

Avi
D&A Software


At 4/4/02 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:44:26 -0500, Ulrich Allen wrote:
>
> > I am the one person with the combo problem.
> > New to me is magic=0 and compress=0.
> > But even that didn't help so far.
> > The third part of the combo is VIAGInterkom as provider.
> > At present time I don't know the DNS of VI.
> > That is the last part which differs from Andreas G's setup.
> > I'll try to get the IP-adress and let you know.
> > Thank you for caring Avi anyway.
>
>You have the special version of Www.exe? I thought it was only
>necessary when you had a Ericsson. But maybe the Nokia 6310 has the
>same bug as the Ericsson's?
>
>Regards
>
>--
>Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
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Hi,

      I must agree that spam is really out of control. I receive a daily
dose of about 20 messages from spammers but don't think that a zip file
saved on Daniel's web site with a *password* will make my situation any
worse.

Cheers,

Inigo
>

> > At 4/3/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of his
> >efforts
> > > >on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been
> >revitalized
> > > >over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and
>enthusiasm.
> > >
> > > >--
> > > >Ted Heise     <theise@netins.net>     West Lafayette, IN, USA
> > >
> > >I agree. Thanks Daniel and Bob for all your hard work. By the way, if
you
> > >are so careful about your personal information being known by others
> don't
> > >send a message to a public list including all of your personal data!!!
> :)
> >
> > I do not mind posting in the list. I _DO_ mind packaging the information
> > nicely for spammers, and giving it to them.



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Date:         Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:20:21 +0200
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No time for experiments or file comparisons now, but from my docs:

IRDA100 and 200 are almost the same, both contain files August-Sep 1995; 097
has files August-Oct 1997, and the very short readme by Nicholas Chan
suggests it really is an update. I haven't tried Nicholas' web address or
email. With 100 was a more extensive and seemingly clear documentation file.
I could send you, if you want. I wouldn't know what to add, although it
doesn't explain the functions of each programme.

I have no deep thoughts about the precise working of the tsr, but it does
definitely not show up with mem/c. I have not yet thought about the filer
question, but Serctl/i sets the IR speed to 2400

Extended Systems produced both SIR and IRDA adapters and drivers. My
Instldos.exe and IRJetEye.sys for IRDA date back to Dec 1994-June 1995. As I
said, I never used them on the LX, but it might be worthwhile to see whether
they work from pure DOS and Lotus. There is a rather clear readme,
suggesting the Instl will guide you smoothly through the process.

You mention IRDA-DOS and HP-IRDA. Would HP-IRDA do its job especially where
the IRDA200 alikes don't (Lotus, DOS)? However, what you state suggests this
might not work from sysman applications! Would the IRDA-DOS be rather for
communication with other computers? Printers then won't take this. Still,
these programmes could be useful to the LX community...

Geert.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:43:43 +0200
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I'm tryind to run A. Garzotto's
Finger/LX 1.1 from a Dos promt while WWW/LX
is connected to my ISP. All I get is
"Connecting to Port 110.." And then a
time-out. How should I run this program?

I'm trying "finger name@domain"

 -----------------
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Date:         Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:29:59 -0500
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>One way to keep the information private would be to send the database
>only to people who agreed to be listed in the database. It would
>maybe also stimulate some more to participate.
>What do you think about that? It should be technically not so
>difficult to manage this. My email program could do the job with a
>distribution list and a membership scan.
>
>Werner

That is an exellent idea to be used as a last resort solution.  Thanks
for sharing that. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: HPLX users database offline! :-(


> I do not mind posting in the list. I _DO_
> mind packaging the information
> nicely for spammers, and giving it to them.

I've taken care of the problem for you, Avi.  I've sent your
name and email address to all the mailing list companies so
there's no more harm that can be done to you.

Aren't you glad to have such good friends?  :)

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I use mailwasher (available www.mailwasher.net) and it solved the pro=
blem
for me.  Its free!
Cheers
Tony.

> Date: Fri 5-Apr-2002 09:10
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu (Tony Kan)
> From: imazagra@yahoo.com (I=F1igo)
> Subject: RE: HPLX users database offline! :-(
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I must agree that spam is really out of control. I receive a daily
> dose of about 20 messages from spammers but don't think that a zip
> file saved on Daniel's web site with a *password* will make my
> situation any worse.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Inigo
> >=20
> > > At 4/3/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > > > >By the way, I offer a hearty THANK YOU to Daniel for all of =
his
> > >efforts
> > > > >on behalf of the LX community.  The list and SUPER have been
> > >revitalized
> > > > >over the last year or so, largely due to his hard work and
> >enthusiasm.
> > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Ted Heise     <theise@netins.net>     West Lafayette, IN, US=
A
> > > >
> > > >I agree. Thanks Daniel and Bob for all your hard work. By the
> way, if you
> > > >are so careful about your personal information being known by
> others
> > don't
> > > >send a message to a public list including all of your personal
> data!!!
> > :)
> > >
> > > I do not mind posting in the list. I _DO_ mind packaging the
> information
> > > nicely for spammers, and giving it to them.
>=20
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:

> I'm tryind to run A. Garzotto's
> Finger/LX 1.1 from a Dos promt while WWW/LX
> is connected to my ISP. All I get is
> "Connecting to Port 110.." And then a
> time-out. How should I run this program?
>
> I'm trying "finger name@domain"

Hmm, I though finger used port 79.

Anyway, many places block finger requests for security reasons.
Have you tried other domains?

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:54:11 +0000
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I agree, Kedit & Rexx is a VERY powerful combination.  Had I
known you had them I probably wouldn't have suggested piping to
edlin (but it's still a powerful trick when running in very
basic DOS environments).

Cheers... Russ

Tom Salwasser wrote:
> Many thanks to all who provided help on my text search and
> replace question. Being advised to used edlin with a piped input
> script made me dig deeper into my own editor, kedit. Kedit has a
> built in Rexx macro facility and a profile program that executes
...

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Russ, your edlin idea was the seed of the solution. Thanks! I
used kedit in the way you suggested I use edlin.

Tom

> Had I known you had them I probably wouldn't have suggested
piping to
>edlin

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As I reported earlier this week, I have MochaPPP working with
WWW/LX on my 2X 32MB 200LX and MochaPPP installed on a Win98SE
host connected to the Inet via cable modem. However, I
discovered something interesting today.

I had been running WWW/LX on the C: drive of the 200LX. Well, I
decided to run WWW/LX from an 80MB Sandisk CF card in the A:
drive slot. It would not connect at 38400 baud, the speed I was
using for the copy of WWW/LX on the C: drive. I dropped the
speed to 19200 baud and WWW/LX negotiated a PPP connection but
the data transfer was unreliable.

The WWW/LX setups on C: and A: are identical. I backup the copy
on C: to A: as a security measure. Each copy references
directories to \, with no drive letter, so I can move the CF
card from the LX to my laptop and run the program without
changes.

The only reason I can see for this behavior is that the CF card
is too slow to keep up with the data flow from MochaPPP. Any
Other suggestions would be appreciated.

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Hello, This is a mail from Argentina. I am a computing teacher having a H=
P
100LX with a 14,4 fax modem pcmcia card. I am trying to run Goin' Postal.=
 I
setup everything: The modem, Locale and also Mailhost. Then, the modem
dials, connects to the server but a few seconds later it hangs up display=
ing
the following message:

PPP packed driver not found
Driver not installed

I think it has to be with the EPPPD driver or something like that but I
don=B4t know how to set up this driver to make it work. I read the
documentation but I don=B4t know what to do.
If someone can help me giving me detailed steps on how to configure this
thing to make GP work, I will be grateful.
Any advice will also be welcome.

Thank you very much,

German Lorenzo
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
germ@cvtci.com.ar

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Ok, here's another meaningless LX survey...

Who has the Most Software Carousel sessions?
Why do you have that many?
What sizes?
Where do you swap too, what's your pool made of?

I have 6 sessions, 5 are max size of 556k with a 256k 6th
session.

1- LX Pims
2- WWW/LX
3- main DOS session
4- Games
5- DOS,
6- MindMap playing, still haven't gotten to it yet.

I set up a 4Meg 256 page Tremm file in my 32Meg disk and then
Swap to eXpanded memory (fast!).

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:35:41 +1200
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Fri,  5 Apr 2002 17:19:33 +1200 (NZT)

ROBOWEB/LX v 1.4, just uploaded, can use the "post" method to
request a page. An example is given for the currency table at
www.xe.com/ict/ - thanks to Mike for this!

CLOCKS v 8.6 is there too - clocks can be sorted by longitude,
from west to east. Thanks to Roger for this idea!.

- Tony
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hi Vic,

HPLX List at Earthlink schrieb =FCber Re: Power supplies -=20
overlooking the obvious - SM:

> Since batteries are not normally connected to an external "ground"
> connection, also called "earthed" in some countries, the use of =
batteries
> should not create a ground problem. When using batteries, there is =
only one
> mutual ground between the two systems, and that is created by the =
line
> carrying the signals. The same is true if you use two isolated power
> supplies, as their outputs are isolated from the building ground. You =
only
> have a problem with you try to use one power supply for two devices =
that
> operate at different voltages or polarities. Then you have to make =
sure you
> do not cross-connect the ground from one output to the hot lead of =
another
> output. That is what was being initially proposed.
>=20
> Vic Roberts

that's a perfect explanation what is going on. When I read the=20
posting with the power supplies, a chill went down my back.

If you use such a device, you _must_ have the technical know how=20
and multimeter ready to avoid big problems. I have seen expensive=20
devices die when only the tip of the power supply touched the=20
(metal) case by accident, when plugged it in. The grounds were=20
connected over another line, and in a fraction of a second the=20
value of the connected unit decreased to zero :-(
So always swich on the power _after_ it is pluged in to the device=20
you want to power on. (especially important when there is a metal=20
case) Not all DC plugs are save and isolated.

Werner=20

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Just fun to know:

All LX are backward compatible on starting the System Manager

700LX takes $sysmgr, 100, 200 or 700 as command prompt
200LX takes $sysmgr, 100, 200
100LX takes $sysmgr, 100
95LX takes $sysmgr

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Sorry, but what this database is useful for ?

--=20
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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:22:25 +0200
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Hello,

I search a French version of the HP200lx manual. Paper or pdf.
Would someone have him it?

Sincerely,
Jean

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:46:18 +0200
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Hi friends

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:10:24 -0800, A Meshar <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I am really not enthusiastic to send out special versions of www/lx to
> everyone. Either it is a problem in our code and we should have just one
> version, not special versions, or it is the manufacturer (Ericsson at
> first, and who knows, maybe Nokia too?) problem and they should fix it. I
> don't think we should support manufacturers bad codes in _our_ code.

Actually I don't think the reason is a problem in the www/lx code. I
know Andreas reads RFCs carefully and his implementations usually are
very correct and even accept some errors on the other side without
having too much trouble.

What I think is that there is an implementation of the PPP server which
was first used be Ericsson and Nokia didn't develop their own PPP
server implementation for the 6310, but used the same implementation as
Ericsson (either bought it from  Ericsson or both bought it from a
third party). So they are bogh suffering now from the bug. Or maybe it
is not a real bug but only another interpretation of some RFC comments
than the interpretation done for the implementation of WWW/LX PPP.

Also, as I learned from Andreas, GPRS phones don't contain a full PPP
server, but only a mini version of a PPP server, which must be a quite
new standard. So there might be some ambiguousities, I guess.

Avi, I don't know the exact details of course, neither about the
implementation and the changes for the T39, nor the business-related
issues which could evolve from distributing an unofficial software
version too much.
But my suggestion in this case is that you simply declare that version
as an unsopported GPRS solution, which can be downloaded and tried in
case the normal version doesn't work for GPRS, no matter what phone the
customer has (I expect the problem to appear on more setups that just
Nokia and Ericsson phones!). Maybe Andreas can compile it once more
with another version information (3.1c currently, maybe changed to
3.1_GPRS_unsupported or some such), and put a clear statement in the
documentation that _only_ support requests will be processed which do
not involve the changes made in the unsupported version.

So you get rid of the frequent GPRS-special-version-requests, and you
can safely delete all support requests regarding the GPRS issues solved
with the modified version or send back a standard email "downlad the
GRPS-enabling version from ftp.dasoft.com.....".

So you don't have to discuss a lot about it, don't have to worry about
unnecessary support requests, and on the other side, the customers have
a version which works with most, if not all, GPRS phones.

What do you think?

Another way would be to make a new official version (supported), which
_includes_ the bug workaround. It could be named version 3.2.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:57:39 +0200
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Avi wrote:
>I really have no idea. Consider replacing the phone for one with newer
>software?

I will go to the NOKIA-Service-Center next week.
They have a  software update for the NOKIA 6310 (Version 4.20) I was told.
It is the second I got already.
But they don't know about my "little funny" problem. There seems
to be no one else with a 80186 in the world trying to use GPRS.
I didn't dare to tell them about www/lx - they wouldn't understand
anyway.
If you don't mind I'll let you know what came out of it.
Uli
p.s. it would be interesting to try a Siemens with that combo

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:39:27 -0500
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On Fri,  5 Apr 2002 03:42:02 +0000 (GMT), Russel Brooks wrote:

> Ok, here's another meaningless LX survey...

I think this is interesting.

> Who has the Most Software Carousel sessions?

I have seven

> Why do you have that many?

I need 6 and after a couple of posts in this thread I may need more :-)

> What sizes?

553
553
144
336
553
553
112

> Where do you swap too, what's your pool made of?

Swap to C drive but EMS. I have a 32mb DS machine.

> I have 6 sessions, 5 are max size of 556k with a 256k 6th
> session.
>
> 1- LX Pims

1. System Mgr with Pims Notebook/Databases and calculator.

> 2- WWW/LX

Me too. I start HDM menu where I choose either POST/LX or WWW.exe with
ethernet/v34/irda. I know that this can be done better with SETCOM, but
it works for me.

> 3- main DOS session

2.MPG. Miles per gallon.

> 4- Games

I would like to add one for games. Soon

4. TT/LX

> 5- DOS,

5. Volkon Commander

> 6- MindMap playing, still haven't gotten to it yet.

6. MM/LX

> I set up a 4Meg 256 page Tremm file in my 32Meg disk and then
> Swap to eXpanded memory (fast!).

I have a 2.6mb Tremm file on a 32Mb ds.

Regards

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Daneil wrote:

> So maybe Nokia firmware has the same bug?
> Ir - maybe it isn't a real bug, but only a different way of
> implementation of the PPP protocol? Another way of interpreting the PPP
> specification?..... If Ericsson AND Nokia show the same problem, it may
> not be a real bug.
>
> It would be interesting to know how that workaround works, so we could
> investigate a little further where the problem in the firmware is.

I have sent a email to Dealer support Nokia here in Norway. I hope that
they can give me an answer about this.

I am pretty sure that I will meet a wall of silence. Same happend with
Ericsson. :-(

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:53:46 +0200
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Hi friends,

the HPLX users database is online again on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb

The password is not publicly available at the moment. It is still
"unofficial" (the password is "unofficial"!).

I will continue to observe the very interesting discussion about the
database here and when the time has come Bob and I will decide how to
handle the data privacy protection issue.

I think for now the solution with the password request by email should
satisfy everyone. We have full control aver who can get access to the
data then. We could for example only give away the password to
non-list-members if the person gives us his data and the permission to
include it to the database.

This meets the idea of only giving access to the database to people who
include themselves, AND it meets _my_ idea to also give the database to
people who are not list members and come along palmtop.net or my
homepage to look ofr people also using the palmtop.

Again, for you list members, the password should be accessable, and I
give it here now: "unofficial".

GTX
daniel

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Hi Marc

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:21:20 +0200, Marc BERLIOUX <xmarc@FREE.FR> wrote:

> Sorry, but what this database is useful for ?

I initially thought it could be useful for palmtop newcomers who don't
know about the HPLX-L or don"t want to subscribe.

The second idea was it can collect power HPLX users, who are not on the
HPLX-L or leave it, so they can still support without beeing
subscribed (this was mainly the idea for the HPLX knowledge database,
the predecessor of the users database).

Then the idea of the users database appeared and this one is a nice
overview of users and their location - may be useful to people who
travel and want to look if somewhere on their route they can meet a
fellow palmtopper, or if someone lives in the destination area who can
help setting up a temporary internet account or whatever...

So, for some people the users database may be totally useless, for some
it may be a nice-to-have, and for some it may be very useful.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:20:47 +0200
Reply-To:     Alan Krempler <alan@oeh.tu-graz.ac.at>
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i have been experimaenting with irda097 a few months ago. they implement a
irda stack, but they are qiute buggy and not documented.

they are good for printing and i succeeded in using them with the comm
application under favorable cirumstances. this reqiured some re-engineering,
though.

i tried to find someone at hp who could point me to the documentation of the
api, but without success.

i also tried to get andreas garzotto's help (he has written the irda stack
for www/lx) but he no one at d&a sorftware would answer my mails.

if i find some spare tame i will take up reengineering again, but if anyone
can get help at hp or from andreas garzotto, this would be even better.

regards
alan krempler

if someone can help, please do so.

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:03:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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>>One way to keep the information private would be to send the database
>>only to people who agreed to be listed in the database. It would
>>maybe also stimulate some more to participate.
>>What do you think about that? It should be technically not so
>>difficult to manage this. My email program could do the job with a
>>distribution list and a membership scan.

Please keep in mind that over the past 60 days I assembled all
the records as respondents to the Around The World Thread
submitted their information. Then Daniel and I merged databases.

Subsequently, we went back to make all requested changes and to
weed out all duplicate entries. Then the support database that
Nathalie had assembled was merged and once again all duplicate
entries were compared, their data combined and each duplicate
then filtered out. The final database, the 'master' if you will,
is all that was retained by me since it was the clean database.
That is the database Daniel posted on his website.

At this point it would be impossible for me to go back and
reconstruct who 'agreed', either expressly or by inference, to be
listed and who did not, be that by way of responding to the
Around The World thread, or having been on Daniel's original
HPLXKNDB database of users providing support, or having been part
of Nathalie's support database, or the many who contacted me
directly afterwards.

On the other hand, anyone not wishing their information to be
included simply has to contact me and I will immediately remove
their information from the master database.

It is certainly worth noting that only one person, out of nearly
300 respondents thus far, objected to his information being
included in the HPLXUDB. Turns out we had a wrong email address
for him and he wished us to make other changes. Certainly we
accommodated him in every respect, as we would any member's
request.

I have received many emails from HPLX list members expressing
their gratitude for the HPLXUDB. These emails evidence that list
members see value in having a directory of HPLX users from which
they can quickly discern who lives nearby, who supports which
model, who supports specific applications, even who might live in
a part of the world to which another member may be travelling.
Some members even expressed that they've enjoyed seeing just how
many countries are represented by current LX users.

The HPLXUDB can and should facilitate one-on-one relationships
between people who share a common interest. Further, it can and
should provide the next generation of HPLX users an unprecedented
wealth of direction, knowledge, information, support and kinship
in a convenient, portable and accessible format.

That was the point all along. The final product (well, nearly ;))
is a real testament to the character and disposition of this
list. A list I was late in discovering but am nonetheless most
grateful for. It's been a lot of fun travelling Around The World
with all of you.

Bob
 Bob Christopher . Littleton, Colorado USA . bob@palmtop.com
  Palmtop Computers . Minox Cameras . All The Small Stuff

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:39:28 -0500
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My HP200LX 2Mb single speed Dutch Railroad version just developed a strange
hardware, I think, problem.

After turning on, all the keys except the blue ROM keys and a couple of
others now just beep when pressed, and the computer just shows the topcard
screen and is locked up..

However, when I press a blue key it's screen comes up and then all the
other keys, including MENU, now work fine. That was a relief, letting me
back up those (few) new files to the memory card.

This is not fixed by CTL-ALT-DEL or even the hard reset CTL-UP-ON. Battery
level was fine.

I suspect a hardware problem, but is this possibly something I did in
software? It happened in the middle of some file editing I was doing.

Bob Kirk
isobar@bcpl.net

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:24:07 -0500
Reply-To:     Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>>> playing around with my new 700LX, I found two very(!) interesting
>>> pieces of software in ROM (D:\BIN)
>>>
>>> lamptsr.com and comtsr.com.
>>>
>>> Both are (c) 1994-95 by HP, and are called by default from
>>> autoexec.bat.
>>>
>> Newer (c. 1997) versions of these are on SUPER. See:
>>
>
> Are these really newer?  The splash screens seem to indicate otherwise.
> The drivers both state that they are (c) 1994-95.  As far as version
> numbers go, the executable lamptsr.com from this zip file lists itself
> as version 0.02 while comtsr.com from this zip lists itself as version
> 0.01.
>
Sorry, I did not check the splash screens. I took my information from
included Readme that claimed it was the August '97 build, as welll as the
Palmtop Paper article at
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/36/pt360036.htm :

"...the latest IR drivers contained in IRDA097.ZIP, which will enable you
to print using the IR port on the HP Palmtop. These are the latest IRDA
drivers for the 200LX and 100LX..."

Hmm... maybe only the included in IRDA097.ZIP is circa 1997?

If Daniel has newer versions, can we have those ones put on SUPER?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:02:16 -0500
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Does anyone know how to make a search wraparound to the top in PE? I =
think This would be  a handy feature for PIM related stuff.=20

Is there a way to enforce line wrap with reformatting the whole file?


Thanks.

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Subject:      Re: HP100LX - Low battery life = big problem?
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Hi Malcom,

   If you are lucky there may be an easy cure. Remove the main batteries and
also the small backup battery (The one that looks like a coin).***Backup
before removing the batteries as you will loose all data*** Then with the
Palmtop emptied of all batteries press the "ON" button for a minute or a
minute and half. This will supposedly clear all energy from the palmtop. Now
insert all the batteries and test it. Some people with battery sucking
palmtops have been able to fix them this way.

Good luck,

Inigo

>Hi,
>I have been given an elderly, but very good condition 2Mb >HP100LX, but it
seems to be eating batteries even when not >powered up!
>As a test I put a fresh set of Hi Quality Alkalines in, and left the >unit
Off for about 4 weeks.
>When I restarted, setup reported a 1/2 charge.
>A couple of weeks later I tried to power up to check charge, but >the
batteries didn't have enough life to keep the Palmtop on, so >another fresh
set were required.


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Subject:      Re: AW: GPRS and 6310
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At 4/5/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Avi wrote:
> >I really have no idea. Consider replacing the phone for one with newer
> >software?
>
>I will go to the NOKIA-Service-Center next week.
>They have a  software update for the NOKIA 6310 (Version 4.20) I was told.
>It is the second I got already.
>But they don't know about my "little funny" problem. There seems
>to be no one else with a 80186 in the world trying to use GPRS.
>I didn't dare to tell them about www/lx - they wouldn't understand
>anyway.

Right, no sense in mentioning 80186 because it makes no difference - it is
has NOTHING to do with the problem. As far as they are concerned this is a
black box. If you tell them that it is an old thing, they grasp onto this
as the reason. I know, and you know it is idiotic, but that is what they
do. So tell them it is so new, it is not even on the market yet, except for
a limited number of people, but that it is out of beta, just not released.

>If you don't mind I'll let you know what came out of it.

Sure, you can post here. There may be other people with this issue.

Avi


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You can search backwards by using SHIFT-search.

Setup the right margin, then mark the whole file and reformat it.


At 4/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know how to make a search wraparound to the top in PE? I think
>This would be  a handy feature for PIM related stuff.
>
>Is there a way to enforce line wrap with reformatting the whole file?
>
>
>Thanks.
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Unfortunately, the problem for me is so severe that it is not really
funny.  But it could have been funny if it was not so severe problem.

Avi


At 4/4/02 -0600, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "A Meshar" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:55 PM
>Subject: Re: HPLX users database offline! :-(
>
>
> > I do not mind posting in the list. I _DO_
> > mind packaging the information
> > nicely for spammers, and giving it to them.
>
>I've taken care of the problem for you, Avi.  I've sent your
>name and email address to all the mailing list companies so
>there's no more harm that can be done to you.
>
>Aren't you glad to have such good friends?  :)
>
>Barry


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Bob and Daniel,
you have my permission to include my data in your database

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Hi Bob

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:03:52 -0700, Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM> wrote:

> The HPLXUDB can and should facilitate one-on-one relationships
> between people who share a common interest. Further, it can and
> should provide the next generation of HPLX users an unprecedented
> wealth of direction, knowledge, information, support and kinship
> in a convenient, portable and accessible format.

I couldn't have said that in a better way! Exactly what I was thinking
when I tried to express the ideas behind the database in my last
posting, but _you_ found the words for it.
Thank you!

GTX
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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:31:34 +0200
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Hi Bruce

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:24:07 -0500, Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> wrote:

> Hmm... maybe only the included in IRDA097.ZIP is circa 1997?
>
> If Daniel has newer versions, can we have those ones put on SUPER?

If anyone checks that and makes a package, I'll gladly put it on SUPER.
The versions from my 700LX are on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/irda700.zip

Please check if the drivers are newer, AND if the drivers still perform
the same action and thus are backwards compatible to the older ones.
And since the original author if the package doesn't seem to be here
anymore, I suggest we only include the newer version in the packege,
and leaving the old ones there, too. So anyone can choose which version
he wants. We don't know if they are basically identical.

GTX
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Hi Russ

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 03:42:02 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> Who has the Most Software Carousel sessions?
> Why do you have that many?
> What sizes?
> Where do you swap too, what's your pool made of?

I have currently 7 sessions:

1 - SysMgr (I use it only for the phone book, Jorgen"s Alarm Clock and
the Database)
2 - DOS for various purposes (*)
3 - WWW/LX and Post/LX
4 - Dicty (German-English dictionary) and American Heritage Dictionary
5 - LXTEL
6 - MM/LX
7 - DOS for various purposes (*)

(*): PIM/PE, Lotus 1-2-3 v4.2, Derive, LaTeX, Software development with
Borland C++ and other things...

All sessions max. size (531k) except 5 (80k).

Swapping to EMS (7.3MB EMS for SC and for all other programs which make
use of it).

C drive 32MB, F drive 2MB.

Previously I had a 4MB SC swap file on a Sandisk CF card, which was
very slow, compared to the current setup, but fast compared to the
experiences of others: It took about 6 seconds to switch from one
full-size WA to another. Not it takes 1 second. :-)

GTX
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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:07:32 -0500
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Bob,

This will serve as permission granted for myself and all data supplied by me
to be a part of the HPLXUDB



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:22:26 +0200
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Our palmtop it smaller, and, _without any doubt_, nicer..

Then, why do they included "HP200" in its name ?

    http://www.g-news.ch/articles/nhp200nc/

<g,d&r>

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Date:         Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:54:43 +0200
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Le Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:40:50 -0300
Germ <germ@CVTCI.COM.AR> a icrit:

> PPP packed driver not found
> Driver not installed

I never have this problem...

Do you run GP from this directory ?
Do EPPPD is on the same directory than the other GP files ?
If not, do EPPPD is somewhere in the PATH ?


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I would like to obtain the User's Guide for ACT. Can anyone advise or help?

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It is hard to diagnose this from afar. Usually the hard reset,
CTRL-Left Shift-On will fix any software related problem.

Have you tried a warm boot, CTRL-ALT-DEL and then pressing ALT
during the boot and the selecting one of the options that does
not process your start up files? Perhaps autoexec.bat or
config.sys or one of the files they reference has become
corrupt.

As a last try before sending it back to Thaddeus for repair,
backup all the files you can and remove both the main and
backup batteries for a few minutes. THIS WILL DESTROY ALL YOUR
DATA, so backup anything you need and can get to. If the
machine does not come back when you replace the batteries, the
I suspect it does have to go back to Thaddeus.

Vic Roberts


On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:39:28 -0500, Robert Kirk <isobar@BCPL.NET> wrote:

> After turning on, all the keys except the blue ROM keys and a couple of
> others now just beep when pressed, and the computer just shows the topcard
> screen and is locked up..
>
> However, when I press a blue key it's screen comes up and then all the
> other keys, including MENU, now work fine. That was a relief, letting me
> back up those (few) new files to the memory card.
>
> This is not fixed by CTL-ALT-DEL or even the hard reset CTL-UP-ON. Battery
> level was fine.

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This guy has far too much time on his hands <G>. I do
appreciate artists, but perhaps this one does not know that
parts other than the CPU also need air.

Vic Roberts

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:22:26 +0200, Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG> wrote:

> Our palmtop it smaller, and, _without any doubt_, nicer..
>
> Then, why do they included "HP200" in its name ?
>
>     http://www.g-news.ch/articles/nhp200nc/

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Reply-To:     Wee-Meng Lee <leewm@ANAKIN.SGP.HP.COM>
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Hi,

This is a horror story which I hope none of you would encounter.

I've configured an auto-backup script on my wife's 4MB 200LX. It
backs up data once a week to the flash card.

Yesterday, my wife told me that her palmtop couldn't turn on.
When I had a look at it this morning, I pressed the ON button,
it gave a beep and nothing. No problemo as it is a low battery
problem that I've encountered before.

Changed the battery but then nothing. Uh oh. Nevermind, I did
encounter this before also, so I took out all the batteries,
pressed the ON button for a minute or so, put back the batteries
in and voila, it works.

Now when I was about to restore the data from the flash, horror
of horrors!  It was corrupted!  When I asked my wife if she saw
any low battery warning before, she said yes about a couple of
weeks back but she forgot about it.

I think what has happened is that the batteries died when it was
writing to the flash card while doing the weekly auto-backup. The
flash card was then corrupted.

Moral of the story: turn on the palmtop at least once a week and
heed the "low battery" warning. Backup your data in your PC or
on another flash.

Rgds,
weemeng

PS: Anyone know how to extract raw files from corrupted flash
cards (5MB)? I only need to get at a lotus file and the
phonebook.

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Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Wee-Meng Lee" <leewm@ANAKIN.SGP.HP.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: Heed the low bty indicator or lose *ALL* data, even on
flash!


> I think what has happened is that the batteries died when it
was
> writing to the flash card while doing the weekly auto-backup.
The
> flash card was then corrupted.
>
> Moral of the story: turn on the palmtop at least once a week
and
> heed the "low battery" warning. Backup your data in your PC or
> on another flash.

The real moral of the story is make backups.  Backing up to the
flash card is fine between real backups but it shouldn't be
confused with a real backup.

Back up to another computer fairly often and then write that to
zip disks or CDs.

Barry

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MAKE MY DAY - PLEASE BLAME ME!

 >For me sending my name and address to the list was a tacit
 >approval to include it in the database.

agreed

 >Thanks Daniel and Bob for all your hard work. By the way, if you
 >are so careful about your personal information being known by
 >others don't send a message to a public list including all of your
 >personal data!!!

agreed, ... also: I wrote half the data and i am responsible for adding Avi
without his 'permission' because his mailing to the list is permission
enough [and who is he anyway?] :)

 >Posting here will most likely result in your message being indexed
 >by web spiders (Google or other search engines) or your
 >e-mail address grabbed by e-mail harvesting programs, regardless
 >of whether you are in the GDB database or not.

same as above

 >And, since I can't expect Daniel and Bob to have complete control
 >over how the database is used, I also release them of any liability
 >as far as...

well, please hand all the liability to me - i can handle any court case - in
fact i'll win with costs awarded to me !!

     __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my LX
  _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside
 (_)/ (_)     ready to put down my thoughts for 1Mill$ from
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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1.. Subject: Re: Is 2X worth it?  Maybe, Maybe Not.

With the introduction of more and more sophisticated palmtops i find the
LX's worth lies in long battery life with standard AAs .._._ reason: i have
a SG3 and SG4 ... if i had to buy unit-specific battery packs i would be
8x$100 out of pocket [4 packs each plus s/h+tax] shipped to France. There is
also the danger that unit-specific battery packs are not manufactured after
5 years.

The LX is dear to me because of the AAs and long battery life which made me
switch back from my DS8mb to my SS1mb.

2.. Subject: Re: [OT] need a german translator

 >Marc BERLIOUX:
 >"i ever thought german was not a language, just a throat disease..

if german seems hard to pronounce .. then Mandarin [Chinese] is ten times as
throat-debilitating :)

Nathalie

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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 08:11:46 +0200
Reply-To:     "Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
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From:         "Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF : They call it the NHP 200NC
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> Our palmtop it smaller, and, _without any doubt_, nicer..
>     http://www.g-news.ch/articles/nhp200nc/

Ok, this thing is ugly, misshaped, not really portable and really
useless...
The worst part of the story is that the guy who made this mess lives
in Liebefeld, Switzerland! Parts of my family still live there. I
hope, he's not related to me in any way :-\

regards,
Oliver

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> > I think what has happened is that the batteries
> died when it
> was
> > writing to the flash card while doing the weekly
> auto-backup.
> The
> > flash card was then corrupted.
> >
> > Moral of the story: turn on the palmtop at least
> once a week
> and
> > heed the "low battery" warning. Backup your data
> in your PC or
> > on another flash.
>
> The real moral of the story is make backups.
> Backing up to the
> flash card is fine between real backups but it shouldn't be
> confused with a real backup.
>

I agree to the above.
To prevent data-loss due to empty batteries durieng
flash-card-write,
I recommend using my little proggie VOLTCHCK (see on
S.U.P.E.R).

You can find a fine backup-procedure-example on Daniels pages.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backuplx/index.shtml


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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 12:25:23 +0200
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Avi wrote:
>except for a limited number of people..

How many users have asked you for that changed version of www/lx?
Didn't you write that I am the only one with that combo?
For some weeks now I am testing and trying to get www/lx cooperate
with GPRS and the 6310.
I have spend hours on the phone talking to NOKIA hotlines.
I have spend a lot of money using GPRS mode and trying to get it work.
Patiently I have followed all advices. With no success so far.
The new software version for the NOKIA 6310 has nothing to do with GPRS.
It is because the 6310 crashes while reading wap email using a certain
provider.
GPRS ist no problem with the 6310 and NOKIA's software on a Windows
computer. So why should they change their software?
Obviously the changed www/lx version would help to solve my problems
(as Daniel H. wrote).
Why don't you follow Daniel's proposal?
I would consider it fair if you let me off the hook and send that
version to me to circumvent the problem even if we find another
solution later on.
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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:01:56 +0200
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:03:52 -0700, Bob
Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM> wrote: >
 > Please keep in mind that over the
past 60 days I assembled all > the
records as respondents to the Around The
World Thread > submitted their
information. Then Daniel and I merged
databases. >

[--cut--]

Bob, just want you to know that I found your
posting well put! Very well
written. And well said.

Fun to think back at the Kiwis vs Vikings
"war" starting it all! A good piece of work
and valuable contribution to our community.



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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:32:19 -0500
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Daniel,

I can't remember what the syntax is the unzip this file with a password.

unzip -s filename ?
unzip /s filename ?

Neither of these worked.    =Bob=

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> the HPLX users database is online again on
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb

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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:38:21 +0200
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Hi Uli, Avi and others,

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 12:25:23 +0200, Uli Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE> wrote:

> How many users have asked you for that changed version of www/lx?
> Didn't you write that I am the only one with that combo?

Do you ask me or Avi?
I have been asked at least 5 times for the modified version, but not by
Nokia phone users, but by Ericsson users.

> The new software version for the NOKIA 6310 has nothing to do with GPRS.
> It is because the 6310 crashes while reading wap email using a certain
> provider.

Ah, okay. I thought you were looking for a new version due to the GPRS
problem.

> Obviously the changed www/lx version would help to solve my problems
> (as Daniel H. wrote).
> Why don't you follow Daniel's proposal?
> I would consider it fair if you let me off the hook and send that
> version to me to circumvent the problem even if we find another
> solution later on.

I also talked to Andreas about that problem, and he promised to make
the modified version an official version soon and let it be released
(by Avi probably?) as an official version. He simply forgot that he has
modified it but that it has never been released. So please wait some
time, I don't know how long, but we will probably soon have official
access to a WWW/LX version which works with the Ericsson and Nokia GPRS
implementation.
Avi, did Andreas contact you already?

GTX
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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:46:09 +0200
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Hi Bob

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:32:19 -0500, Bob Newins <bnew@ATTBI.COM> wrote:

> I can't remember what the syntax is the unzip this file with a password.
>
> unzip -s filename ?
> unzip /s filename ?

if you use pkunzip, give only -s. It will ask for the password.
if you use Info-Zip unzip, give no option. It will ask for the
password. (-s with Info-Zip unzip means "Spaces in filename", see unzip
online help).

GTX
daniel


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Hi friends,

sorry for this off-topic, but maybe someone can help. You are my only
source for help currently because I'm sitting in the university totally
alone, nobody's here to help.

I am looking for a Linux shell script solution for the following:

I have a file sent.txt containing one line of text:
"1132 packets sent"

I have a program "send" which takes some parameters, one of them a
number, e.g.

send file1 host port number

I call "send" from a Linux shell script.
Now I want to give the number from file "sent.txt" as the parameter
"number" to the program "send", i.e. the following command should be
executed:

send file1 host port 1132

Does anyone know a solution ofr that? I assume it will involve awk or
something like that.

Do you know a solution, in case the "sent.txt" file would ONLY contain
the number?

Thanks a lot!!
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:39:43 +0200
Reply-To:     Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET>
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Avi wrote:
 > I am not trying to make troubles for Daniel and Bob with tis, because =
I
 > appreciate their excellent work for this community A LOT - but I am
 > concerned about such a permission. Maybe you want to remove your email
 > address to minimize the likelihood that your entry will be useful for =
a
 > commercial email?

Considering the amount of spam that everybody gets every day, I don't
think that we need to worry about the HPLX database at all.

If you don't want your email address to be visible, you should stop
posting messages here, or even stop sending email at all. After all,
all HPLX-L messages are archived - a spammer could easily grab the
archives and extract all addresses.

Frankly, I believe people are way too concerned. Spammers have
millions and millions of addresses, and they won't put themselves
through the trouble of downloading a GDB file, converting that into
a useful form, just to get a mere 300 or so addresses - most of which
they already have anyway.

Daniel and Bob spent a lot of time and efforts on this project, so
let's not flog this to death by grumbling over minor points, but
instead view the database as a valuable resource for the HP LX
community.

Just my 2 cents... And of course this implies my permission to
leave my entry in the database. :-)

Thomas

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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:39:51 +0200
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Vic Roberts wrote:

 > Since the +12 volt and +5 volt outputs of the computer power
 > supply share a common ground, this would create a short circuit
 > across the +12 volt supply when the modem was connected to the
 > 200LX. The computer power supply ground (from the +5 volt
 > supply connected to the modem) would then be connected to the
 > +12 volt output of the computer power supply (connected to the
 > sleeve of the 200LX power input.)

This would only be true if the +12V line would be connected to the
ground (or shield) pin of the serial port, which is not the case.
I think the common problem in this discussion is that everybody
seems to assume that the sleeve of the power connector is
automatically used as ground. In most cases this might be true,
especially for devices which use the center tip for +12V or
whatever and the sleeve for ground. On the HP it is just the other
way round, and ground is connected to the center tip of the power
connector.

Therefore I don't think that there would be any problem connecting
a modem and the palmtop to different outputs of the same power
supply.

Thomas

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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:40:01 +0200
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Tony,

I started using Mailwasher about a week ago, but so far haven't
noticed any difference. Do you really get less spam now? And how
long did it take until you saw a difference?

Thomas


Tony Kan wrote:
 > I use mailwasher (available www.mailwasher.net) and it solved the =
problem
 > for me.  Its free!
 > Cheers
 > Tony.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2002 07:52:57 -0800
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:39:51 +0200, Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> wrote:

> Vic Roberts wrote:
>
>  > Since the +12 volt and +5 volt outputs of the computer power
>  > supply share a common ground, this would create a short circuit
>  > across the +12 volt supply when the modem was connected to the
>  > 200LX.

> I think the common problem in this discussion is that everybody
> seems to assume that the sleeve of the power connector is
> automatically used as ground. In most cases this might be true,
> especially for devices which use the center tip for +12V or
> whatever and the sleeve for ground. On the HP it is just the other
> way round, and ground is connected to the center tip of the power
> connector.

I have certainly been making that assumption. It was based on
the Omnibooks that have the same polarity plugs and a ground
which is commonly believed to be connected to the shell. Hence
the need for the rather expensive HP auto power adapter.
(However, I must admit I have never checked the connections on
my Omnibooks either.)

If you are correct that the center pin of the power plug goes
to circuit common and therefore to the ground lead of the
serial port, then ALL THE ADVICE I HAVE BEEN DISPENSING HERE
WITH REGARD TO THE USE OF A COMMON POWER SUPPLY FOR THE 200LX
AND AN EXTERNAL MODEM IS WRONG. (Sorry for the shouting, but I
do now want anyone to burn out their 200lX because of my
incorrect advice.

Do not use one power supply for both your LX and an external
modem unless you have the tools and knowledge to check for a
potential difference between the grounds before you connect the
two devices.

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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I have a file sent.txt containing one line of text:
> "1132 packets sent"
>
> I call "send" from a Linux shell script.
> Now I want to give the number from file "sent.txt" as the parameter
> "number" to the program "send", i.e. the following command should be
> executed:
>
> send file1 host port 1132
>
> Do you know a solution, in case the "sent.txt" file would ONLY contain
> the number?


How about

send file1 host port `cut -d' ' -f1 sent.txt`

Or if it's always just a number

send file1 host port `cat sent.txt`

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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I have a file sent.txt containing one line of text:
> "1132 packets sent"
>
> I have a program "send" which takes some parameters, one of them a
> number, e.g.
>
> send file1 host port number
>
> I call "send" from a Linux shell script.
> Now I want to give the number from file "sent.txt" as the parameter
> "number" to the program "send", i.e. the following command should be
> executed:
>
> send file1 host port 1132

send file1 host port `cat sent.txt | awk '{print $1}'`

should do the job.

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> If the power supply has a -12V output then you can power
> the LX from that output and power your modem from the +5V
> output and they will share a common ground line.

Which assumes, that the sleeve and not the tip of the plug is connected
to the HP ground - quite feasable but by no means a given! Don't rely on
it without thorough checking!

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> This list has public archives

Don't! I never thought of that! My address used with my offlinereader
for Usenet but without Netscape's ability to filter list-mail into a
pseudogroup is brimming full of spam every day. This one used only with
netscape and never on Usenet has so far not had a single one spam mail
(not counting what is sent by the mail providers themselves and acceptes
as a kinf of payment for their service) and I do hope it will stay like
that.

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> 700LX takes $sysmgr, 100, 200 or 700 as command prompt

And there I was doing all kinds of "if exist d:\bin\700.co goto omni"
stuff - why didn't you tell us before?
Thanks, you have made my several-different-machines life a lot easier.

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Hi Mike and Erwann

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:54:40 +0200 (CET), Erwann ABALEA <erwann@abalea.com> wrote:

> send file1 host port `cat sent.txt | awk '{print $1}'`

Thanks!! You are great!
I went for Erwann's suggestion using awk, and I avoided using the pipe
by simply saying

send file1 host port `awk '{print $1}' sent.txt`

This works like a charm!

TNX a lot
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Mike and Erwann
>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:54:40 +0200 (CET), Erwann ABALEA <erwann@abalea.com> wrote:
>
> > send file1 host port `cat sent.txt | awk '{print $1}'`
>
> Thanks!! You are great!

I know, I know... ;)

> I went for Erwann's suggestion using awk, and I avoided using the pipe
> by simply saying
>
> send file1 host port `awk '{print $1}' sent.txt`

Yes. Avoid running 2 programs if you can do the job by running only 1. My
fault.

Maybe the suggestion of using cut could be better. Take into consideration
the ressources awk and cut might need. This is something one usually
forget about: just count the number of Perl CGI scripts that could be
replaced by properly written light C programs... I really love Perl, but
it's a memory hog for a web server.

What is good for prototyping is not always good for production.

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Hi,

My Nokia 8210 started having the screen bug (Screen
starts to fade) so I had it repaired. They changed the
motherboard because it was faulty. To my surprise
using the new motherboard the IR connection with my Hp
200lx seems much better than before. Much fewer
"Error, baud rate too high" messages. It is now
difficult to see one of those errors while before I
started getting them as soon as the connection was
established. Can it be that the new motherboard had a
new software version? If your Nokia 8210 is still
under guarantee and the screen starts flickering have
it repaired as soon as possible you may be getting a
more stable system.

***Question about AT commands in Nokia 8210:

Using IR.exe

AT+CPBR 1,150 will read the whole phonebook on the SIM
card, but there will be many entries missing. Is there
a better AT command to list all entries, or is it a
bug? If you type AT+CPBR 1,20 (Shorter memory range)
all entries are listed. Why does the AT=CPBR 1,150
fail to work correctly? Has anybody been able to read
all entries using one AT command? (I have only been
able to read all entries by limiting the range to
1-20, then 21-40, then 41-60, etc..)

Thanks,


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On Thu,  4 Apr 2002 00:52:00 +0200, Jan Brandt wrote:

> > What are you planning to do?
>
> I eventually want to be able to go on the net, download a few web pages
> (using get) and perhaps retrieving emails (using Post/LX).

First of all I am hundred of messages behind on the list so you may
have solved all your problems.

I use the T39m for this. Both woth gprs and normal hscsd with WWW/LX.

> I used to do this occasionally with my old Sagem GSM, but that was through a
> cable not IR.
>
> I have a registered version of WWW/LX (version 2.1) and I have also tried
> with an unregistered version 3.1a.

I have the latest version. You should check the website to see what the
changes has been in WWW/LX since the version you have.

> I don't plan to use GPRS, so I guess it should work even with version 2.1 ?

Maybe I can not remember if I used 2.1 with irda.

> I have firmware version R2M on the T39.
>
> By the way I have finally managed to get IR.EXE to send Vcards from the LX
> to the T39, but I can't make it work the other way. It is not a big issue
> because I don't really intend to be using IR.EXE anyway. It was just an
> attempt to get something simpler than WWW/LX to work, in attempt to cut out
> all possible modem and logon problems, before I moved on.

I have not looked into sending from T39m -> LX. But I wrote a little
tutorial which is on Daniel's site about Vcards from Hplx -> T39. Take
a look maybe you find it usefull.

> I did. It doesn't work.

I use the same seetup as the one you do not get to work. It may be
something in www.exe that changed. See website.

> On the LX I get a IR connection failed after some seconds. On the T39 I see
> no signs of action at all.

Well if you get beyond this you will get "Connectiong" in the display
on the T39 and a little beep.

> Shouldn't I see it on the display if it actually
> was trying to dial out ?

Yes you will see number that are dialed, but you do not see this.

> Am I supposed to do anything with the T39 in order to prepare it for the IR
> commands from the LX ?

Enable irda, but you have done that since you get Vcards to work

If it does not work it may be the www.exe that is to old.

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Hi Inigo

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 08:44:02 -0800, "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" <imazagra@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> established. Can it be that the new motherboard had a
> new software version? If your Nokia 8210 is still

Sure, it can be.

> Using IR.exe
>
> AT+CPBR 1,150 will read the whole phonebook on the SIM
> card, but there will be many entries missing. Is there
> a better AT command to list all entries, or is it a
> bug? If you type AT+CPBR 1,20 (Shorter memory range)
> all entries are listed. Why does the AT=CPBR 1,150
> fail to work correctly? Has anybody been able to read
> all entries using one AT command? (I have only been
> able to read all entries by limiting the range to
> 1-20, then 21-40, then 41-60, etc..)

This sounds like IrDA or IR.EXE is not fast enough to transmit / read
all the entries the command returns.
I don't know for sure, but I assume the command
AT+CPBR 1,150 lets the phone send all entries in a certain time pattern
to IR.EXE, and if it sends too fast, some may be lost.

Try another scheme: Try to tell the phone to only send one entry, and
when it arrived, send the next request for one entry.
This could be done by a script (Robot/LX with WWW/LX) which has a
counter, and works as follows:

counter=1
AT+CPBR counter,counter
wait for OK
increase counter
if counter < 151 goto beginning

I don't have the GSM AT command sheet handy, so I cannot look up if the
AT+CPBR command is correct, but if you say _range_, I think you give it
the first and the last entry which it should send. So if you give
counter,counter it would everytine send only one entry, the one with
number "counter".

Maybe have a look at the phone.scr Robot script. This already allows to
read/write the whole phone book, and I guess it works the way I just
described.

GTX
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Dear All,

I would like to know if it is possible to get a replacement for the
below part (component) of the 200LX?

White plastic thing, kind of octogonal shape, two of which are
located under the hinge rod of the 200LX, visible when you open the
lower shell of the palmtop. It is supposed to keep the lower shell
attached to the long hinge rod.

You can see a picture of it (02030065.jpg) on Daniel's page at:
<http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml#main>

Tuesday, my palmtop fell 5ft and disintegrated. It turned out that it
had already missing the white thingie on the left side, so the rod
separated from the lower shell upon impact.

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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Tamas Feher wrote:

> I would like to know if it is possible to get a replacement for the
> below part (component) of the 200LX? White plastic thing, kind of
> octogonal shape, two of which are located under the hinge rod of the
> 200LX, visible when you open the lower shell of the palmtop. It is
> supposed to keep the lower shell attached to the long hinge rod.

They're not necessary at all.  I regularly remove them to make disassembly
and reassembly of the palmtop easier.

However, if you really absolutely need one, and can't find a better
source, I have the ones I've taken out of mine, and you can have one.

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Wee-Meng Lee wrote:
> Moral of the story: turn on the palmtop at least once a week and
> heed the "low battery" warning. Backup your data in your PC or
> on another flash.

I do a daily incremental backup to the flash card that stays in
my LX. Once or twice a week I do a full backup to 1 of 2 other
cards alternating between them.  After I do a full backup I
delete all the incremental backup data so it starts over the
next day.  Of the 2 full backup cards, 1 stays with me and the
other I leave in my desk at work.  I try to leave the one with
the latest full backup at work for additional safety.

On top of all this I also have a BAT file which copies a few key
files to a pw protected Zip file which I then email to my
brother monthly where he keeps only the latest one in case I
really get clobbered and have to start over from scratch.

I also have two backup 200LXs, a 4M and a 32M.

I hope this is enough backup.
Backup?  You can't be paranoid enough.

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Subject: Heed the low bty indicator or lose *ALL* data, even on flash!

> PS: Anyone know how to extract raw files from corrupted flash
> cards (5MB)? I only need to get at a lotus file and the
> phonebook.

If you have a tool like Norton/Symantec/PCtools  Diskedit, you can search
and extract some files if you know those headers.

Also you can backup whole flashcard onto a file as a sector dump to be able
to undo recovery attempts.


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Vic and others,

Am I missing something?  None of the keys ever work until a blue key is
selected, so you can enter an application.  When the topcard is displayed,
tapping any key will get you a beep.  Sorry, if I missed the first post and
am saying something totally off-the-wall.

Bill
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:39:28 -0500, Robert Kirk <isobar@BCPL.NET> wrote:

> After turning on, all the keys except the blue ROM keys and a couple of
> others now just beep when pressed, and the computer just shows the topcard
> screen and is locked up..
>
> However, when I press a blue key it's screen comes up and then all the
> other keys, including MENU, now work fine. That was a relief, letting me
> back up those (few) new files to the memory card.
>
> This is not fixed by CTL-ALT-DEL or even the hard reset CTL-UP-ON. Battery
> level was fine.

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Natalie wrote:
>
> 2.. Subject: Re: [OT] need a german translator
>
>  >Marc BERLIOUX:
>  >"i ever thought german was not a language, just a throat disease..
>
> if german seems hard to pronounce .. then Mandarin [Chinese] is ten times as
> throat-debilitating :)
>

You should try Welsh...

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Ian Butler wrote
> They're not necessary at all.  I regularly remove them to make disassembly
> and reassembly of the palmtop easier.
>
Well, they lock the hinge rod in place, except of course in heavy falls
(viz. cause of this thread..).
So I do think taking them out is _not_

Tamas, mail me your address (privately) and I'll send you some of my spares.

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Bill... Yep, that's the correct symptom. Once I go into a blue key
application everything works fine. But then when I exit out to the Topcard,
it's back to the beeping keys. Strange, but I've learned to work with it
over the last couple of days.

  But it must be hardware, cause I've gone to a complete hard reset by
removing batteries & backup battery and the problem returns with nothing on
the computer.  So I guess it's back to Thaddeus when I get tired with the
workaround.

Bob Kirk




At 04:33 PM 4/6/02 -0500, Bill Sprague wrote:
>Vic and others,
>
>Am I missing something?  None of the keys ever work until a blue key is
>selected, so you can enter an application.  When the topcard is displayed,
>tapping any key will get you a beep.  Sorry, if I missed the first post and
>am saying something totally off-the-wall.
>
>Bill
>On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:39:28 -0500, Robert Kirk <isobar@BCPL.NET> wrote:
>
> > After turning on, all the keys except the blue ROM keys and a couple of
> > others now just beep when pressed, and the computer just shows the topcard
> > screen and is locked up..
> >
> > However, when I press a blue key it's screen comes up and then all the
> > other keys, including MENU, now work fine. That was a relief, letting me
> > back up those (few) new files to the memory card.
> >
> > This is not fixed by CTL-ALT-DEL or even the hard reset CTL-UP-ON. Battery
> > level was fine.

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Kirk,

With the topcard displayed, all of the keys on my 200LX beep when pressed
except for the [ALT], [Shift], [CTRL],[Fn], [MENU] and [ON]/[OFF] keys.  If
I'm not mistaken (I've owned about 6 or 8 200LX's), that's the way the
machine is supposed to respond.  The topcard on the HP200LX is like the
desktop on a Windoze machine in that nothing happens until an application is
started and used.  Once again, I'm sorry for coming in late on this
conversation.  I just know I must not be comprehending the problem.

Best,

Bill

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Subject: Re: Beep of Death


Bill... Yep, that's the correct symptom. Once I go into a blue key
application everything works fine. But then when I exit out to the Topcard,
it's back to the beeping keys. Strange, but I've learned to work with it
over the last couple of days.

  But it must be hardware, cause I've gone to a complete hard reset by
removing batteries & backup battery and the problem returns with nothing on
the computer.  So I guess it's back to Thaddeus when I get tired with the
workaround.

Bob Kirk




At 04:33 PM 4/6/02 -0500, Bill Sprague wrote:
>Vic and others,
>
>Am I missing something?  None of the keys ever work until a blue key is
>selected, so you can enter an application.  When the topcard is displayed,
>tapping any key will get you a beep.  Sorry, if I missed the first post and
>am saying something totally off-the-wall.
>
>Bill
>On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:39:28 -0500, Robert Kirk <isobar@BCPL.NET> wrote:
>
> > After turning on, all the keys except the blue ROM keys and a couple of
> > others now just beep when pressed, and the computer just shows the
topcard
> > screen and is locked up..
> >
> > However, when I press a blue key it's screen comes up and then all the
> > other keys, including MENU, now work fine. That was a relief, letting me
> > back up those (few) new files to the memory card.
> >
> > This is not fixed by CTL-ALT-DEL or even the hard reset CTL-UP-ON.
Battery
> > level was fine.

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Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: HPLX users database offline!


> Considering the amount of spam that everybody
> gets every day, I don't think that we need to worry
> about the HPLX database at all.

There's another side of spam that seems to get ignored.

I just got home and found four spam ads in my mailbox each
offering me a 4" penile length increase.  I'm getting all four.

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> I just got home and found four spam ads in my mailbox each
> offering me a 4" penile length increase.  I'm getting all four.

Barry:

My landlord got this offer, and it's no good - he only obtained
a 3-1/2" increase...

-Chris


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I was afraid of something like that.  That's why I'm signing up
for all four offers.

Barry

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> > I just got home and found four spam ads in my mailbox each
> > offering me a 4" penile length increase.  I'm getting all
four.
>
> Barry:
>
> My landlord got this offer, and it's no good - he only
obtained
> a 3-1/2" increase...
>
> -Chris
>
>
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Hi Daniel,


--- Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> I also talked to Andreas about that problem, and he
> promised to make the modified version an official
> version soon and let it be released (by Avi
> probably?) as an official version.

Yes, probably on Monday. If the accusations and anger
towards me subsides a little <G> ...

> He simply forgot that he has modified it but that it
> has never been released. So please wait some time, I
> don't know how long, but we will probably soon have
> official access to a WWW/LX version which works with

> the Ericsson and Nokia GPRS implementation.

This is _your_ committment, not mine. The code will be
released as is, and no promises whatsoever. If it
works, great, if not, then that's it. WWW/LX is NOT
designed to connect with cellphones and/or GPRS or
anything except modems and direct connect (via NIC).
Everything else is a bonus, and please don't call if
it does not work with the other devices.


> Avi, did Andreas contact you already?

Every day!

Avi



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Russell wrote:
>I set up a 4Meg 256 page Tremm file in my 32Meg
>disk and then Swap to eXpanded memory (fast!).

This TREMM to which you refer, is it on SUPER?
If so, is it EMM200 or EMM240, or something else?
Is it difficult to set up? Any other special
software required?

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I am disappointed that when I post my opinion here,
you find it necessary to call names and comment about
the state of my sanity. Walk a mile in my own shoes
before you attack my sanity.


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> my LX
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> countryside
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> 1Mill$ from
> ^^^^^^^^^^    Avi losing his case of paranoia
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Wouldn't be nice to have a database with all the commercial and freeware software that runs on the LX? It could have fields like [memory requirements], [disk space required], [category: utility, graphics, programming, etc], [commercial/freeware],
[language], [DOS based/palmtop specific], etc and a brief description of what it does.
Then if someone would like to install it he could know all the features and the requirements.
Perhaps this is a long term project. Any comments?

Cheers.

Dario

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Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote:
> From: "Wee-Meng Lee" <leewm@ANAKIN.SGP.HP.COM>
> > PS: Anyone know how to extract raw files from corrupted flash
>
> If you have a tool like Norton/Symantec/PCtools  Diskedit, you can search
> and extract some files if you know those headers.

And THIS is why it is useful to defrag ram and flash disks.
You won't speed up data access but hunting down file sectors
will be MUCH easier if they are all (or mostly) consecutive.

Good luck.

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Roger,
Tremm comes from Mack's Times2Tech and it works with
their 32M upgrade.

Cheers... Russ

Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
> Russell wrote:
> >I set up a 4Meg 256 page Tremm file in my 32Meg
> >disk and then Swap to eXpanded memory (fast!).
>
> This TREMM to which you refer, is it on SUPER?
> If so, is it EMM200 or EMM240, or something else?
> Is it difficult to set up? Any other special
> software required?

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Hi,

sorry for the duplicate post (in case I missed something) but have you
tried the built-in diagnostic-tools?

regards,
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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:11:42 +0200
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Well, I have 9 Software Carousel sessions, 7 of them at maximum size
and 2 with only 256K. I have a swap file of 4 MB on my 96MB C: drive.

The sessions are:

1 - System Manager
2 - DOS program with HDM menu
3 - Games with HDM menu
4 - German/English dictionary
5 - Post/LX
6 - a Clipper application for managing my Comic collection
7 - acCIS
8 - a plain DOS prompt
9 - HP 41 emulator

Thomas
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Russel Brooks wrote:
 > Ok, here's another meaningless LX survey...
 >
 > Who has the Most Software Carousel sessions?
 > Why do you have that many?
 > What sizes?
 > Where do you swap too, what's your pool made of?
 >
 > I have 6 sessions, 5 are max size of 556k with a 256k 6th
 > session.
 >
 > 1- LX Pims
 > 2- WWW/LX
 > 3- main DOS session
 > 4- Games
 > 5- DOS,
 > 6- MindMap playing, still haven't gotten to it yet.
 >
 > I set up a 4Meg 256 page Tremm file in my 32Meg disk and then
 > Swap to eXpanded memory (fast!).
 >
 > Cheers... Russ
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Vic,

well, being the hardware crack I am :-), I did use a multimeter before
posting my replay, and in fact the center pin of the power connector
is used as common ground and is connected to signal ground of the serial
port. So all is well.

I don't know about the Omnibooks, but using +12V as common ground sounds
_very_ weird to me and definitely is _not_ proper design.

Thomas
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 > On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:39:51 +0200, Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> =
wrote:
 >
 > > Vic Roberts wrote:
 > >
 > >  > Since the +12 volt and +5 volt outputs of the computer power
 > >  > supply share a common ground, this would create a short circuit
 > >  > across the +12 volt supply when the modem was connected to the
 > >  > 200LX.
 >
 > > I think the common problem in this discussion is that everybody
 > > seems to assume that the sleeve of the power connector is
 > > automatically used as ground. In most cases this might be true,
 > > especially for devices which use the center tip for +12V or
 > > whatever and the sleeve for ground. On the HP it is just the other
 > > way round, and ground is connected to the center tip of the power
 > > connector.
 >
 > I have certainly been making that assumption. It was based on
 > the Omnibooks that have the same polarity plugs and a ground
 > which is commonly believed to be connected to the shell. Hence
 > the need for the rather expensive HP auto power adapter.
 > (However, I must admit I have never checked the connections on
 > my Omnibooks either.)
 >
 > If you are correct that the center pin of the power plug goes
 > to circuit common and therefore to the ground lead of the
 > serial port, then ALL THE ADVICE I HAVE BEEN DISPENSING HERE
 > WITH REGARD TO THE USE OF A COMMON POWER SUPPLY FOR THE 200LX
 > AND AN EXTERNAL MODEM IS WRONG. (Sorry for the shouting, but I
 > do now want anyone to burn out their 200lX because of my
 > incorrect advice.
 >
 > Do not use one power supply for both your LX and an external
 > modem unless you have the tools and knowledge to check for a
 > potential difference between the grounds before you connect the
 > two devices.
 >
 > Vic Roberts
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Marc BERLIOUX wrote:
 > "i ever thought german was not a language, just a throat disease..

It all depends on the point of view... I would probably say the same
about the French language. :-)

Thomas

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Uli,

I have the same problem with my Ericsson T68. In fact, every user
of the Ericsson T39m and T68 needs the modified version of WWW.EXE
if he wants to use GPRS.

Like you, I did ask Avi for the modified version but couldn't talk
him into sending it.

Thomas

 > Avi wrote:
 > >except for a limited number of people..
 >
 > How many users have asked you for that changed version of www/lx?
 > Didn't you write that I am the only one with that combo?
 > For some weeks now I am testing and trying to get www/lx cooperate
 > with GPRS and the 6310.
 > I have spend hours on the phone talking to NOKIA hotlines.
 > I have spend a lot of money using GPRS mode and trying to get it work.
 > Patiently I have followed all advices. With no success so far.
 > The new software version for the NOKIA 6310 has nothing to do with =
GPRS.
 > It is because the 6310 crashes while reading wap email using a certain
 > provider.
 > GPRS ist no problem with the 6310 and NOKIA's software on a Windows
 > computer. So why should they change their software?
 > Obviously the changed www/lx version would help to solve my problems
 > (as Daniel H. wrote).
 > Why don't you follow Daniel's proposal?
 > I would consider it fair if you let me off the hook and send that
 > version to me to circumvent the problem even if we find another
 > solution later on.
 > Uli

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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:33:16 +0200
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Hi Robert

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:03:10 -0500, Robert Kirk <isobar@BCPL.NET> wrote:

> Bill... Yep, that's the correct symptom. Once I go into a blue key
> application everything works fine. But then when I exit out to the Topcard,
> it's back to the beeping keys. Strange, but I've learned to work with it
> over the last couple of days.
>
>   But it must be hardware, cause I've gone to a complete hard reset by
> removing batteries & backup battery and the problem returns with nothing on
> the computer.  So I guess it's back to Thaddeus when I get tired with the
> workaround.

What do you expect the palmtop to do when you press a letter key during
topcard is displayed?

Try the "&..." blue key, that brings you to the other applications.

Or am I missing something here? Do you speak about another problem?

On http://www.palmtop.net you can get the HP 200LX user's manual (in
the SUPER archive).

GTX
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Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote:
> > Our palmtop it smaller, and, _without any doubt_, nicer..
> >     http://www.g-news.ch/articles/nhp200nc/
>
> Ok, this thing is ugly, misshaped, not really portable and really
> useless...
> The worst part of the story is that the guy who made this mess lives
> in Liebefeld, Switzerland! Parts of my family still live there. I
> hope, he's not related to me in any way :-\

I have nothing to do with it either, even if I was grown up in
Liebefeld, Switzerland, and have lived there until 15 years ago. Now I
live in Spiegel, which is another part of this region, ca. 2 km away
from the place where this ugly thing (or should it be a work of art?)
was created.

Funny that I learn from a global mailing list about things happening in
my neighbourhood!

Oliver,
have you ever lived in Liebefeld? Maybe we have common friends!

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That should get you some extra attention at the swimming pool,
I guess. :-)

Thomas
www.rundel.net/palmtop

Barry wrote:
 > There's another side of spam that seems to get ignored.
 >
 > I just got home and found four spam ads in my mailbox each
 > offering me a 4" penile length increase.  I'm getting all four.
 >
 > Barry
 >

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Robert Kirk wrote:
 > Bill... Yep, that's the correct symptom. Once I go into a blue key
 > application everything works fine. But then when I exit out to the =
Topcard,
 > it's back to the beeping keys. Strange, but I've learned to work with =
it
 > over the last couple of days.

But that's perfectly normal behavior - when the topcard is displayed,
only the blue keys will work and launch the associated application, and
all other keys will beep (except shift, alt, ctrl etc.).

Thomas
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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:35:25 +0200
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Most of the data is available on SUPER, at least for freeware and
shareware. Having the same data available for commercial software
would be a good idea, but I would suggest a Web page instead of a
database file. How about adding this onto palmtop.net or SUPER?
Users of commercial software could send in their reviews, and a
coordinator could then put all the reviews together on one Web page.

Thomas
www.rundel.net/palmtop


Dario Draiman wrote:
 > Wouldn't be nice to have a database with all the commercial and =
freeware software that runs on the LX? It could have fields like [memory =
requirements], [disk space required], [category: utility, graphics, =
programming, etc], [commercial/freeware], [lang
 > uage], [DOS based/palmtop specific], etc and a brief description of =
what it does.
 > Then if someone would like to install it he could know all the features=
 and the requirements.
 > Perhaps this is a long term project. Any comments?
 >
 > Cheers.
 >
 > Dario

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Hi Dario and Thomas

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:35:25 +0200, Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> wrote:

> Most of the data is available on SUPER, at least for freeware and
> shareware. Having the same data available for commercial software
> would be a good idea, but I would suggest a Web page instead of a
> database file. How about adding this onto palmtop.net or SUPER?
> Users of commercial software could send in their reviews, and a
> coordinator could then put all the reviews together on one Web page.

The idea is basically great.
But Thomas is right: On SUPER you can see at least _which_ programs
work on the palmtop (except some not added Free- and shareware
programs, which are available elsewhere, especially standard DOS tools
are missing on SUPER, but SUPER is more a file base for palmtop
_specific_ programs).

I would modify Dario's idea a bit:

Create a data base (or web page, this may be more conveniten as long as
there are not too many entries) which shows all programs running on the
palmtop, which are not on SUPER. And I think it is important to add a
note field to the database where tips can be added how to make the
program work on the palmtop, especially important for such programs
like Windows 3.0, MS Word, Lotus 1-2-3 R2.4 or R3.0,

GTX
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I got 11 SC sessions:

   1  -  SYSMGR   550KB
   2  -  POST/LX  550KB
   3  -  PIM/LX   550KB
   4  -  HDM      550KB
   5  -  HDM      550KB
   6  -  XTGOLD   550KB
   7  -  WP       550KB
   8  -  HDM      550KB
   9  -  Collins  250KB
  10  -  LXTEL     70KB
  11  -  MM/LX    550KB

My EMS file is 7.1MB. Additional to SC, WordPerfect and Maxdos are
taking advantage of EMS.

Kind regards

Helmuth


> Ok, here's another meaningless LX survey...
>
> Who has the Most Software Carousel sessions?
> Why do you have that many?
> What sizes?
> Where do you swap too, what's your pool made of?
>
> I have 6 sessions, 5 are max size of 556k with a 256k 6th
> session.
>
> 1- LX Pims
> 2- WWW/LX
> 3- main DOS session
> 4- Games
> 5- DOS,
> 6- MindMap playing, still haven't gotten to it yet.
>
> I set up a 4Meg 256 page Tremm file in my 32Meg disk and then
> Swap to eXpanded memory (fast!).
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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Thomas wrote:
>I have the same problem with my Ericsson T68

It is good to read that I wasn't wrong surmising that the solution
could only be found in the changed version of www/lx.
Meanwhile Andreas G. has obvioulsy given his OK so that Avi can make
the changed version to the main version.
Avi promised to make that version available on Monday.
I am looking forward to that and I am sure that my GPRS era
(and yours) will start then.
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Dear All,

I'm trying to fix my palmtop, which fell 5ft. It appears to be
undamaged, even after disassembled to parts (thanks to Daniel
Hertrich's for his LX repair webpage!) Yet my 200LX does not work,
no screen display. I have no idea, if the error is LCD, keyboard or
motherboard related.

So I attached an external battery holder of 2xAA to the vampire
clips on the 200lx motherboard, where the internal batteries usually
connect. A digital multimeter shows that the palmtop draws current
in a strange way, when the batteries are attched:
about 16mA for 8 seconds, then 54mA for about 12seconds, then
16mA, then 54mA and so on, oscillating.

Of course there is no card in the PCMCIA bay, and the batteries
are fresh. Does the above oscillating current draw indicate any
particular error?

Can I test the working of the LCD, without a functional LX
motherboard? Say, some specific voltage applied to some contact
point on the flat cable makes the screen dark, or columns turn
on/off? Is this possible?

Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 18:22:09 +0200
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> Natalie wrote:
>>
>> 2.. Subject: Re: [OT] need a german translator
>>
>>> Marc BERLIOUX:
>>> "i ever thought german was not a language, just a throat disease..
>>
>> if german seems hard to pronounce .. then Mandarin [Chinese] is ten times as
>> throat-debilitating :)

Not so, just try Swiss German which is much worse (for the throat)... and
then there's Cantonese (much worse for the nose)... :=)

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All,
 I've been using several yahoo text pages for getting news summaries with =
wwwlx & hv for several years now.  As of March 28th, the pages are no =
longer being updated.  Has Yahoo discontinued this service also?  Any =
other good text sites that someone can recommend?
 Guess I really need to get with it and learn how to use robot.

Larry

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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 19:22:27 +0200
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 This msg may be way too late, but

 IMHO the safest would be to exclude everyone (again?) by defualt, and get
 permission one by one, using
 this list as the channel for such confirmation. It will cause another 500
 (at most) messages to be sent to the list, which is not too  bad, over a
 week or two.

 If anyone does not respond, that person is assumed excluded. Thus, if
you're
 not interested to be in the database, just don't do anything.

 I, for one, would like to be included in the database.


 Donald Klopper - Pretoria South Africa
 micha@icon.co.za

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> Hi all,
> I may hv a chance to get a 100% new Omnigo 100 for around


As others indicate, there is a VERY LIMITED dos somewhere in there.
There were some tools to get to it but it was VERY LIMITED.  I had
Official HP training on it.  It was unique (the flip screen) at the time
but the tool set for it was limited, too.  The other big problem was
that it ATE BATTERIES - it needed to be run on the NON-rechargeable
Lithium AA's and then due to their discharge curve, the Omnigo100 would
die over a weekend for instance.

As a novelty - yes.  As a practical unit - probably not.

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I would like to read comments of people running Matlab on the palmtop. I have version S3.5 student version. The limit size of matrices are 1024 for 1D. I got another version that runs on the LX, the 3.5j, the limit size is 8188 but it needs a coprocessor
emulator (EM87.COM) and is extremly slow.

Dario

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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:15:16 +0200
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> The other big problem was
> that it ATE BATTERIES - it needed to be run on the NON-rechargeable
> Lithium AA's and then due to their discharge curve, the
> Omnigo100 would die over a weekend for instance.

Is it really THAT bad? I'm trying to get my hands on a 100lx (at a
reasonable price) to add to my HP collection. I don't intend to use it
on a daily basis but I like it, when they work when I want to use them
;-)

BTW: What are the differences between the 100lx and the 120lx (the
120's seem to be pretty rare compared to the 100's)?

regards,
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> I hope this is enough backup.
> Backup?  You can't be paranoid enough.

I have a 64 Meg palmtop.  Each morning I back it up onto one of two 96 =
Meg
Flash cards.  Once a week, the flash cards are both backed up to my =
laptop.
Then the information goes onto CD-ROMs.  I also copy the frequently =
changed
data, like my *.adb file, to my Jornada.  I can read it there using =
PocketDOS
and CPACK.  I also keep two spare 200LX's

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
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> I do not mind posting in the list. I _DO_ mind packaging the information
> nicely for spammers, and giving it to them.

Obviously, I support Avi's right to opt out, but by opinion on this is =
apparently
different than his.  I am mainly using his E-mail as a convient way to =
jump
into this thread (so no personal attack is intended).

I don't see a *.gdb file as "nicely packaged" for spammers.  This is a
non-standard binary file type used only by an "obsolete" palmtop that =
hasn't
been manufactured in years.  What spammer is going to know how to access =
this?
Much easier to request a list of our E-mail addresses from the list =
server or
comb through the *.zip archives.  Thus, I am in favor of having a *.gdb =
posted
for our use.  No one else will know what to do with it.

This constitutes my permission to include my information in the database.

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> At 4/3/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Daniel, Bob, et al;
> >
> >I give permission for my name and e-mail address to be included
> >in the HPLX User Database, as long as it is NEVER used for
> >unsolicited commercial e-mail.
>
> How can you be sure this will not happen?


Probably can't be sure.  Fortunately, or unfortunately, the address I
use for the hplist is the one that somehow the spammers have anyway.  I
just got 43 junk messages in this pass.

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> On a similar note, for the last few months, my DS 32M 200lx has been
> draining batteries like they're candy.  I'm usually having the change
> the 1600MAh NiMH's almost on a daily basis.  I switched from alkalines
> because it was going through them at almost the same rate.  Also, if I
> don't plug the LX into the wall when I change the batteries, sometimes
> it resets itself and I lose the contents of the internal 32M.  I've
> since stopped using it in favor for an external CF card.

Hmm.  My double speed 32megger seems to act similarly.  Lithium AA's
seem to last according to Buddy (pretty accurate in the past) about 3
hours - which is pretty bad, I think.  I don't run all that much.
Mainly Golf Solitaire (thanks, Curtis!).  I even switched the type of
card I have in the unit from my 85meg full pcmcia to a 96meg compact
flash - no better behavior.

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> Anyone has any experience with this? Are there any
> programs? guidance?


Well, ages ago, the Palmtop paper had some barcode advertisers.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:41:25 +0200
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Hi Oliver

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:15:16 +0200, "Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE> wrote:

> BTW: What are the differences between the 100lx and the 120lx (the
> 120's seem to be pretty rare compared to the 100's)?

Don't mix up the Omnigo 100 with the 100LX! It is a differnet machine.
The Omnigo 120 is the (big?) brother of the Omnigo 100, buth seem to be
pretty rare.

The 100LX isn't rare, and it is almost as useful as the
200LX, except its capability to be easily memory-upgraded and it has
older ROM software. Otherwise the 100LX and 200LX are identical.

A strange thing is the Omnigo 700LX, which has the name "Omnigo", but
is shaped as and developed from the 200LX. I don't know why they
re-used the name Omnigo for the 700LX, although the nam Omnigo actually
meant these GEOS machines with the flip-around-screen and hand writing
recognition (Omnigo 100 and 120).

I have never seen an Omnigo 100 or 120, except on pictures, and I would
be _very_ interested to see and try one. But I wouldn't probably want
to buy one, because it would not be useful for me.

GTX
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I think it is potentially more useful than the people database. Perhaps
there are already starters for that in SUPER (although it contains some
entries that will not run on the Palmtop).

I think adding information such as installation, tips, and user experiences
may be useful as well.

This could be a BIG database.

Avi


At 4/6/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Wouldn't be nice to have a database with all the commercial and freeware
>software that runs on the LX? It could have fields like [memory
>requirements], [disk space required], [category: utility, graphics,
>programming, etc], [commercial/freeware], [language], [DOS based/palmtop
>specific], etc and a brief description of what it does.
>Then if someone would like to install it he could know all the features
>and the requirements.
>Perhaps this is a long term project. Any comments?
>
>Cheers.
>
>Dario
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Hi,
    I know that it is a very different beast to the DOS palmtops, but I have
the option of buying (very reasonably - about 65 USD) an Ericsson MC12 (OEM
HP360LX, but with WinCE 1.0 only, I believe).
    Unusual in that it was used once or twice only four or five years ago,
then put back into its box with a PSU, all cables and its leather case
untill now. It really is in 'as new' condition and worked well when I tried
it - the keyboard and large back-lit screen are really nice after my 100LX,
although the Lithium BackUp battery is just about dead.
    What do you think of these machines? I thought that with something like
Pocket DOS running on it, so that it can use SUPER SW, it might make a nice
alternative to the 100LX.
    Are there any resource sites out there for the 360LX or its OEMs? - I
must say I've come accross very little for either the MC12 or 360LX on the
search engines.
    Any advice gratefully receieved.
Kind Regards
                    Malcolm

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Vic and all who replied,

I did a reinstall of Accis4 and it works great again!  I guess some
electrons went bump in the night. |-)


>
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:58:22 -0500, Bob Newins <bnew@ATTBI.COM> wrote:
>
> > When trying to log on I can't even get in the door.  Get:"Connecting to
> > Compuserve Network"
> >                                                          "Logging onto Compuserve . . .
> >                                                          "Incorrect User ID or password"
> > It retries a few time and aborts.  I am only using my original User #
> > that never changed.  I have called 4 times and tried 4 sets of new
> > passwords with no luck.  I requested that the passwords work with the
> > old classic system.  That is why I wanted to see a working script file
> > as perhaps something is different.  Anybody have any new idea??  Thanks

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> Don't mix up the Omnigo 100 with the 100LX! It is a
> differnet machine.

Sorry, was a typo. I meant the Omnigo 100 and 120.

> The Omnigo 120 is the (big?) brother of the Omnigo 100,
> buth seem to be pretty rare.

That's the only thing I know about the 120 :-\

> I have never seen an Omnigo 100 or 120, except on pictures,
> and I would
> be _very_ interested to see and try one. But I wouldn't
> probably want
> to buy one, because it would not be useful for me.

I'll try to get them both anyway. I'm not thinking about using them
;-)

regards,
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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 03:59:13 -0400
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Hi

Where can I get the circuitboard to the keyboard?

I mean this white one located just under they keyboard.

Is it expensive do you think?

Lars

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Avi wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> There was recently a post about the newton keyboard locking up
> the Palmtop, and if I remember right, a second post from the
> same person that he/she was not sure if the info was correct.
>

Speaking about newton keyboard, which models work together with
the LX?

Or is it just to buy whichever?

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I'm very confused. My 1 MB 100LX batteries are at 32.2 hrs now, and are
probably within a few hours of needing a battery change. I run
non-rechargeable Lithium Ion batteries, and a 16 meg flash card from
Sandisk. When I get my 200LX and upgrade speed and memory, should I expect a
drop in battery life of this magnitude?

John

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> On a similar note, for the last few months, my DS 32M 200lx has been
> draining batteries like they're candy.  I'm usually having the change
> the 1600MAh NiMH's almost on a daily basis.  I switched from alkalines
> because it was going through them at almost the same rate.  Also, if I
> don't plug the LX into the wall when I change the batteries, sometimes
> it resets itself and I lose the contents of the internal 32M.  I've
> since stopped using it in favor for an external CF card.

Hmm.  My double speed 32megger seems to act similarly.  Lithium AA's
seem to last according to Buddy (pretty accurate in the past) about 3
hours - which is pretty bad, I think.  I don't run all that much.
Mainly Golf Solitaire (thanks, Curtis!).  I even switched the type of
card I have in the unit from my 85meg full pcmcia to a 96meg compact
flash - no better behavior.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich"
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Omnigo 100 vs HP200LX
>
> I have never seen an Omnigo 100 or 120, except on pictures, and I would
> be _very_ interested to see and try one. But I wouldn't probably want
> to buy one, because it would not be useful for me.
>

Daniel et all,
I've collected a lot of LX stuff over the years.  A couple years ago I ran
across an almost brand new Omnigo 120 and purchased it.  It was the ideal
collectors package.  In the box with all the papers and books.  It came with
several HP add on applications like games and the connectivity kit as well
as the complete set of "Omnigo World" magazine.  (Thaddeus' equivalent to
the "Palmtop Paper" for Omnigo users.)  It should have made an interesting
addition to my collection.
But, it would run the batteries down in a couple weeks or so even if it was
in the desk drawer unused.  There was no provision for an ac adapter.  So if
the backup battery was weak or dead, when you removed the AA batteries to
replace them, you lost everything that you hadn't backed up.  VERY bad for
business.
The major difference between the 100 and 120 was the screen.  It was
supposed to be much more visible in poor conditions than the 100.  I wasn't
impressed with the improvement.  I thought my good LXs had better displays.
It may have been as good or slightly better than the one LX I have that has
a poor screen.  (Discussed in an earlier thread.)  I think there were some
software additions for the 120 as well, but I can't remember what they were.
I believe that they are scarce because HP dropped the Omnigo product line
very soon after the 120 was introduced.
I kept it about a year and didn't use it much.  Every time I wanted to play
with it I had to replace all three batteries and start off as if it was new.
It was so irritating to do that I decided that I didn't want to keep it even
as a "collectable".  So, I sold it to someone via eBay and only lost a
little.
Not one of HPs better designs.
Later,
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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:37:33 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Internet with Motorola Timeport 260 ?
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hello,

My software is www/lx version 2.2g
I try to connect with www/lx and a Irda Connection with my Motorola
Timeport 260 to the internet.

The irda connect seems to work.
I get:
talking with timeport
irda connection established with 57600.

Then I see:
Initializing modem
after a while I see:
GOT:
+++ATH

and the connection is closed and failed.

my configuration for GPRS:
no modem Init string (???)
Dial number *99#
57600 Baud, Port -1

Any help appreciated.

best regards,
Werner


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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:31:12 +0200
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Look at the coil. Oscillating current draw maybe due a loss contact or open
coil.

Look at this and still trying to repair.

Good Luck!


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From: "Tamas Feher" <etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: Non-functioning palmtop:oscillating current draw means?


> Dear All,
>
> I'm trying to fix my palmtop, which fell 5ft. It appears to be
> undamaged, even after disassembled to parts (thanks to Daniel
> Hertrich's for his LX repair webpage!) Yet my 200LX does not work,
> no screen display. I have no idea, if the error is LCD, keyboard or
> motherboard related.
>
> So I attached an external battery holder of 2xAA to the vampire
> clips on the 200lx motherboard, where the internal batteries usually
> connect. A digital multimeter shows that the palmtop draws current
> in a strange way, when the batteries are attched:
> about 16mA for 8 seconds, then 54mA for about 12seconds, then
> 16mA, then 54mA and so on, oscillating.
>
> Of course there is no card in the PCMCIA bay, and the batteries
> are fresh. Does the above oscillating current draw indicate any
> particular error?
>
> Can I test the working of the LCD, without a functional LX
> motherboard? Say, some specific voltage applied to some contact
> point on the flat cable makes the screen dark, or columns turn
> on/off? Is this possible?
>
> Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:35:26 +0200
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Hi friends,

I'd like to hear your ideas about the following problem:

I want to be able to update a binary file (the HPLXUDB ;-) ) on my
homepage using Post/LX.
I plan to make a distribution list for distributing the HPLXUDB under
the members of the database, and in the same step (sending that email
out to the distribution list members), I'd like to FTP it on my web
server.

An idea?  Maybe an external service, which takes an email attachment
and uploads it to a certain place?

Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:04:23 +0200
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Hi Werner

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:37:33 +0200, "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET> wrote:

> My software is www/lx version 2.2g
> I try to connect with www/lx and a Irda Connection with my Motorola
> Timeport 260 to the internet.
>
> The irda connect seems to work.
> I get:
> talking with timeport

so physically all is well.

> irda connection established with 57600.

Try also 38400. 57600 may be too fast for the LX.

> Then I see:
> Initializing modem
> after a while I see:
> GOT:
> +++ATH
>
> and the connection is closed and failed.
>
> my configuration for GPRS:

WWW/LX 2.2g may not be capable of GPRS, if the Motorola phones have the
same "bug" as Ericsson and Nokia. But if Motorola hasn't this bug, you
may be able to use GPRS. So the results of your experiments are very
interesting!!

> no modem Init string (???)

Bad. You probably need one. Try ATZ or AT&F.

> Dial number *99#
> 57600 Baud, Port -1

Dial number should be okay, but also try
*99***1#
*98*1#
*99*0*1*1#

(and when you don't succeed, also try to replace the 1s by 2 or 3. This
reflects the GPRS setup number (CID) in the phone, I don't know how
many of the the Motorola phones can hold, and I don't know which one is
the one which works for you. Try to find out with using WAP.

Baud: As I said, better try 38400. This is safer.


Good luck, and please report!
If you succeed, I would appreciate a little report about your phone for
my homepage! :-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:04:35 +0200
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Hi Alfredo

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:42:31 -0500, "Alfredo Musse T." <amusse@mediaim.com> wrote:

> Can you give me more details of what you want to do?

well, my mail said everything. I have no more concrete plans about it,
it was just an idea and I wanted to hear ideas on how this could be
realized.
It would certainly be possible with a robot script and some
sophisticated batch files, but maybe someone knows an external service
which makes something like that possible. There are now services for
almost everything out there, so why not for such a thing. ;-)

But if it doesn't seem ro be possible with a reasonable amount of work,
it's OK. It would only be nice to do all that automatically.

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:07:33 -0700
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From:         A Meshar <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Newton Keyboards
Comments: To: Lars Hedstroem <hedningen@PRIVAT.UTFORS.SE>
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At 4/8/02 -0400 Lars Hedstroem <hedningen@PRIVAT.UTFORS.SE> wrote:
>Avi wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > There was recently a post about the newton keyboard locking up
> > the Palmtop, and if I remember right, a second post from the
> > same person that he/she was not sure if the info was correct.
> >
>
>Speaking about newton keyboard, which models work together with
>the LX?


I did not know there were more models than one for the Newton Keyboard. I
know the one I have works.

>Or is it just to buy whichever?

I don't understand the question.



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Probably WAAAAAY too fast.

At 4/8/02 +0200, you wrote:
>hello,
>
>My software is www/lx version 2.2g
>I try to connect with www/lx and a Irda Connection with my Motorola
>Timeport 260 to the internet.
>
>The irda connect seems to work.
>I get:
>talking with timeport
>irda connection established with 57600.
>
>Then I see:
>Initializing modem
>after a while I see:
>GOT:
>+++ATH
>
>and the connection is closed and failed.
>
>my configuration for GPRS:
>no modem Init string (???)
>Dial number *99#
>57600 Baud, Port -1
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>best regards,
>Werner
>
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:33:02 -0700
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From:         Michael Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> It would certainly be possible with a robot script and some
> sophisticated batch files, but maybe someone knows an external service
> which makes something like that possible. There are now services for
> almost everything out there, so why not for such a thing. ;-)

There are services for the opposite, retrieve a file by email,
but to upload a file I think would have a lot of security
problems. You would have to trust the service with your email.


> But if it doesn't seem ro be possible with a reasonable amount of work,
> it's OK. It would only be nice to do all that automatically.

Is your server your system? It shouldn't be too hard to set up
procmail to pipe the email through perhaps mimencode (assuming
mime attachment), saving the output to your desired file. Never
tried it though.

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> > It would certainly be possible with a robot script and some
> > sophisticated batch files, but maybe someone knows an external service
> > which makes something like that possible. There are now services for
> > almost everything out there, so why not for such a thing. ;-)
>
> There are services for the opposite, retrieve a file by email,
> but to upload a file I think would have a lot of security
> problems. You would have to trust the service with your email.

Oops, meant trust them with your password.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 00:04:34 +0200
Reply-To:     Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET>
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Tamas,

sorry to hear about your bad luck.

The oscillating power consumption is not right, Depending on the amount
of RAM installed, the palmtop draws about 50-110 mA when it is starting
up, and after a while drops down to 30-50 mA due to light sleep when
there is no keyboard activity.

You definitely have a problem with the hardwrae. I would suggest
removing the display wire and measure the current consumption of the
mainboard alone. It is is not oscillation, the display is broken,
otherwise the mainboard is at fault.

Thomas
www.rundel.net/palmtop


Tamas Feher wrote:
 > Dear All,
 >
 > I'm trying to fix my palmtop, which fell 5ft. It appears to be
 > undamaged, even after disassembled to parts (thanks to Daniel
 > Hertrich's for his LX repair webpage!) Yet my 200LX does not work,
 > no screen display. I have no idea, if the error is LCD, keyboard or
 > motherboard related.
 >
 > So I attached an external battery holder of 2xAA to the vampire
 > clips on the 200lx motherboard, where the internal batteries usually
 > connect. A digital multimeter shows that the palmtop draws current
 > in a strange way, when the batteries are attched:
 > about 16mA for 8 seconds, then 54mA for about 12seconds, then
 > 16mA, then 54mA and so on, oscillating.
 >
 > Of course there is no card in the PCMCIA bay, and the batteries
 > are fresh. Does the above oscillating current draw indicate any
 > particular error?
 >
 > Can I test the working of the LCD, without a functional LX
 > motherboard? Say, some specific voltage applied to some contact
 > point on the flat cable makes the screen dark, or columns turn
 > on/off? Is this possible?
 >
 > Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
 >
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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:06:44 +0000
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I downloaded VADAS.Zip from Super; it's advertised as an old
game.  The doc appears to be Japanese without any English
translation.

Does anyone know how to play this game?
Does anyone have English instruction for Vadas?

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:31:57 -0000
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Bob,

One question regarding your symtoms, when you first boot up, does
the screen come up blank?  And if so, could it be that you Topcard
is just blank and needs to be redefined?

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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:00:44 -0400
Reply-To:     LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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From:         LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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I was just checking through my outbox and found a message that
was sent automatically confirming that the incoming mail
message was received.

The problem is, this incoming message has been sent by a
spammer!

What cheek! To spam and ask for confirmation.

This is really the worse thing one can do, acknowledging
receipt of spam. Might as well say "thank you for spamming me".

To stop this happening again, is there anyway to set POST/LX so
that confirmation messages are stopped?

I know that some of my legitimate correspondents ask for
receipt confirmation, but I do not think that it really
matters that much to them. If it is an important message, I
will answer right away anyway.

Any idea welcome.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:33:02 +0000
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John McCaskill wrote:
> I run non-rechargeable Lithium Ion batteries,

Where do you get disposable Lithium Ion AAs?
What brand?  How much?

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:50:22 +1200
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Tue,  9 Apr 2002 14:47:31 +1200 (NZT)

03h46m47s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Apr 2002 19:00:44 -0400, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:

> To stop this happening again, is there anyway to set POST/LX so
> that confirmation messages are stopped?

Confirmation=0

in [SYSTEM] section of POST.CFG does this. From "Tips 'n
Tricks" page at www.dasoft.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:28:59 -0700
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:11:47 +0200, Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> wrote:

> well, being the hardware crack I am :-), I did use a multimeter before
> posting my replay, and in fact the center pin of the power connector
> is used as common ground and is connected to signal ground of the serial
> port. So all is well.

Good thing someone checked <g>

> I don't know about the Omnibooks, but using +12V as common ground sounds
> _very_ weird to me and definitely is _not_ proper design.

I disagree. There is no fundamental reason why the negative end
of the power supply should go to ground, especially when the
input voltage does not drive the logic circuitry directly.

And, by the way, if the case of the LX was made from a
conductive material instead of an insulating material, it would
be very unusual for the outer part of the power connector to
NOT be connected to circuit ground. When a conductive case, the
shell of the power connector would almost certainly be
connected to chassis ground.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 04:42:24 +0000
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> I am disappointed that when I post my opinion here,
> you find it necessary to call names and comment about
> the state of my sanity. Walk a mile in my own shoes
> before you attack my sanity.

Nah, your shoes are too low cut for snow walking - I'd have cold feet!
(G)

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> Marc BERLIOUX wrote:
>  > "i ever thought german was not a language, just a throat disease..
>
> It all depends on the point of view... I would probably say the same
> about the French language. :-)

And I remember when you thought it about English, too! (G)  Oh, maybe
you still do!

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> > The other big problem was
> > that it ATE BATTERIES - it needed to be run on the NON-rechargeable
> > Lithium AA's and then due to their discharge curve, the
> > Omnigo100 would die over a weekend for instance.
>
> Is it really THAT bad? I'm trying to get my hands on a 100lx (at a
> reasonable price) to add to my HP collection. I don't intend to use it
> on a daily basis but I like it, when they work when I want to use them
> ;-)

The issue was that you would not know how much battery life was left
since it needed lithiums and they last a long time and don't show a slow
discharge you can follow.  So you would use it and use it and no change
but the battery was critically low (but unknown).  Then you'd put it
away over the weekend or even overnight - the battery would die along
with your data.

As part of a collection it might be nice.  I've still got mine,
actually, two, I think and .......... the rare......

> BTW: What are the differences between the 100lx and the 120lx (the
> 120's seem to be pretty rare compared to the 100's)?

I've got the 120 (I think it is in that closet (G)).  It had what hp
referred to as a holographic screen (???) which was this screen that
could really use ambient light and reflect it back.  It was an oddish
greenish-orange.  I actually had a test HP100 (not omnigo) that hp beta
tested with that screen but that one was only on loan.  It was very
angle dependent but with the right lighting it did seem to glow.

I never did get grafitti and my left handed penmenship to co-exist very
well.  And even back then, I complained about the scroll bar location
for lefties - since you had to reach across the screen to use the stylus
to scroll and then covered up what you wanted to see as scrolling.
That, unfortunately, has not changed with the wince devices either.

But those were my opinions and some folks really liked the omnigo.
There were a few sites on the web that supported it.

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u can using q/u/a/s key for change "BIG number" on left hand side.
o/p/k/l is a shooting key.

And "Right hand side number" will come to attack your Base (from right to left)
u need change your "BIG number" is same digital then they will killed.
if u want got more score, u can try shoot them by ten.
example: 1+9 or  2+8 or 7+3 or 6+4 etc... then it will create "n" character.
this "n" character hv more score.

my high score is 9060 :-)

 >I downloaded VADAS.Zip from Super; it's advertised as an old
 >game.  The doc appears to be Japanese without any English
 >translation. Does anyone know how to play this game?
 >Does anyone have English instruction for Vadas?
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You can disable all such requests! Lemme see ...

In POST.CFG, in the [SYSTEM] section, add a line:

Confirmation=0

This will ignore the confirmation requests. This is also in the website, in
the Tips and Tricks, WWW/LX area, and search on "Email Confirmation".

I agree with your logic re confirming by a personal email.

Good luck.

Avi

At 4/8/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I was just checking through my outbox and found a message that
>was sent automatically confirming that the incoming mail
>message was received.
>
>The problem is, this incoming message has been sent by a
>spammer!
>
>What cheek! To spam and ask for confirmation.
>
>This is really the worse thing one can do, acknowledging
>receipt of spam. Might as well say "thank you for spamming me".
>
>To stop this happening again, is there anyway to set POST/LX so
>that confirmation messages are stopped?
>
>I know that some of my legitimate correspondents ask for
>receipt confirmation, but I do not think that it really
>matters that much to them. If it is an important message, I
>will answer right away anyway.
>
>Any idea welcome.
>
>Ka Tai
>
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hi Daniel,

Daniel Hertrich schrieb =FCber Re: Internet with Motorola Timeport=20
260 ?:

>=20
> Dial number should be okay, but also try
> *99***1#
> *98*1#
> *99*0*1*1#
>=20
> (and when you don't succeed, also try to replace the 1s by 2 or 3. =
This
> reflects the GPRS setup number (CID) in the phone, I don't know how
> many of the the Motorola phones can hold, and I don't know which one =
is
> the one which works for you. Try to find out with using WAP.

what do you mean by that? How can I use WAP with the HPLX?

I also have a Data cable for the phone, but I did not succeed until=20
now to accomplish a Data connection to the phone via this cable.
It only worked via IRDA and GPRS.

>=20
> Baud: As I said, better try 38400. This is safer.

I tried 38400 and 19200.
no difference.
>=20
>=20
> Good luck, and please report!

yes of course.

> If you succeed, I would appreciate a little report about your phone =
for
> my homepage! :-)
>=20
I tried GPRS using my Laptop.
It worked from the beginning. I used the same settings and Dial=20
number as in the HP200.

Maybe the latest version of www/lx would work?
Is it already on the Dasoft homepage for a test?

Can the new version of  www been used with the old version of Post?
I d'like to change as little as possible in my otherwise running=20
system.

cheers and txs for you support,
Werner=20

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hi Daniel,

Daniel Hertrich schrieb =FCber FTP upload of a file by Post/LX?:

>=20
> An idea?  Maybe an external service, which takes an email attachment
> and uploads it to a certain place?
>=20
I have an idea how this can be done.

With a batch file, ftp and my email program Pegasus mail I think it=20
could be managed.

I make a filter on your email. It should have a unique subject for=20
example so I can filter on this subject.
The next step is to extract the file to a UUE-File on my disk.
then I start an external program (aladdin expander) to extract the=20
database from this file.
The next step is to start ftp with the -s command, this can do a=20
predefined connect to the ftp server and upload the database.

If you need special information on the batch file please let me=20
know off list.
I could also set up all for you here in my office and it should run=20
without your effort ;-)
All I need is a special subject line of your email (to trigger the=20
filter) and the data to upload the file, which is name of the ftp=20
server, login, Password, directory for upload,


cheers,
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Hi Vic

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:28:59 -0700, Victor Roberts <RobertsV@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I disagree. There is no fundamental reason why the negative end
> of the power supply should go to ground, especially when the
> input voltage does not drive the logic circuitry directly.

Well, I think there is: To avoid such problems we are talking about.
These problems would never appear if _every_ device would connect alll
ground lines to 0V. At least in a device which is only driven by _one_
power supply this should be easy to do and not lead to problems.

i have not yet seen _any_ device which doesn't do it this way.

GTX
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Hi friends,

another little converter proggie from DHSoft. ;-)

This one parses a GDBIOed GDB file (i.e. a CDF file) and extracts email
addresses from a specific column to create a Post/LX compatible email
address book.

This is the "little brother" of PDB2ADR (which is included in the PDB2X
converter package).

I developed it with the HPLX users database in mind, to make
distribution of updates easier.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/download

GTX
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Hi firends

little correction:

I wrote:

> This one parses a GDBIOed GDB file (i.e. a CDF file) and extracts email
> addresses from a specific column to create a Post/LX compatible email
> address book.

Not an email address book (post.adr with entries of the format
Name <email_address>
)

but distribution lists, i.e. every line of the output file only
contains a bare email address.
This one which you can use in the to: field of a new email, for
example

To: file:mylist.adr

PDB2ADR is the one to create an email _address_book_.

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I am running WWW/LX 2.1d. When I first obtained an Accton card
I was able to use the Ethernet connection option with the ISP I
had at that time, which was Road Runner.

I just purchased a Socket LP-E NIC from eBay and am trying to
test it out in my 200LX. (The card works fine in my 800CT.) I
have installed LXCIC and am using LXEN2216 thanks to a
suggestion from Mike Kopplin. I have gotten as far as having
DHCP.EXE write the IP-UP.BAT file and set the environment
variables. Yet, when I fire up WWW/LX with my Ethernet profile
I get the error message "Cannot establish a PPP connection".

One thing that has changed since I tested the Accton card is
that I changed ISP on my cable modem service from Road Runner
to Earthlink. The Earthlink dial-up service works just fine
with WWW/LX and I can use MochaPPP to connect to the Earthlink
high speed service through a Win98SE host. Is it possible that
direct Ethernet connection to Earthlink requires a different
script?

TIA

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I use Energizer photo lithium or Energizer hi-energy lithium, usually from
Office Depot. A pack of 4 lists for $8.99, so it's about $2.25 plus tax per
battery. A pair lasts me 3-6 months, since I keep it plugged into the AC
adapter when I'm at my desk at work. I use battery power nights & weekends,
or when I'm in a meeting. I'm currently at 32.35 hrs according to Buddy, and
I put them in some time last year.

John

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John McCaskill wrote:
> I run non-rechargeable Lithium Ion batteries,

Where do you get disposable Lithium Ion AAs?
What brand?  How much?

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Victor Roberts wrote:
 > > I don't know about the Omnibooks, but using +12V as common ground =
sounds
 > > _very_ weird to me and definitely is _not_ proper design.
 >
 > I disagree. There is no fundamental reason why the negative end
 > of the power supply should go to ground, especially when the
 > input voltage does not drive the logic circuitry directly.

There is no fundamental reason, that's right, but as almost everybody
uses the negative line as ground, I would at least consider that as
the "normal" way of doing it. :-)

And, as you pointed out with reference to the Omnibook, using the
negative line as ground gives the users much less headaches and
less possibilities to blow up their equipment, for example in a car
or when using one power supply for more than one device, which was
how this thread started.

But ok, I'll take back the "improper design" and replace it with
"bad design". :-)

Thomas
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Hi Axel

> Ahem, assuming the email-address is in a field of its own, you do know
> about clips and printing to file from a GDB? I don't quite understand what
> you have achieved there.

I have achieved that this is all usable from a batch file (which I
need, because I don't like system macros and I'm running a batch file
every night automatically anyway).

And in case you want to do this on a 1000CX or another computer without
the built-in database application, or if you don't use system
manager, it can also be useful.

I write those programs mainly for my own needs, but I think it may be
useful to others to make them available. So you can always be sure, if
I release a program, it's good for something. ;-) At least for me.

But of course you are right that such things can be done with a
smartclip.

GTX
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Hi Axel

and in addition I have in GDB2ADR a mechanisms which checks if the
field contains a valid email address, and it only adds valid email
addresses to the ADR file to avoid problems with Post/LX.

You cannot do this with a smartclip. ;-)

GTX
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:45:20 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Hi Vic
>
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:28:59 -0700, Victor Roberts <RobertsV@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
> > I disagree. There is no fundamental reason why the negative end
> > of the power supply should go to ground, especially when the
> > input voltage does not drive the logic circuitry directly.
>
> Well, I think there is: To avoid such problems we are talking about.
> These problems would never appear if _every_ device would connect alll
> ground lines to 0V. At least in a device which is only driven by _one_
> power supply this should be easy to do and not lead to problems.

Your are confusing "conventional" with "fundamental". For
example. Just about every map of the world I have ever seen
has North at the top. However, that is just "convention".
There is no scientific reason that would make North "up". The
reason that North is up is that people living in the Northern
Hemisphere dominated map making. People who live in the
Southern Hemisphere are probably not very happy that their
part of the world is given what some might believe is second
class status on maps.

> i have not yet seen _any_ device which doesn't do it this way.

Well, I don't want to take up too much bandwidth here with
examples, but let me give a few both ways.

In the days of vacuum tubes (you are probably too young to
remember those, but I am not <G>) it was normal to have the
negative lead of the power supply grounded and the positive
line hot (as you say is "fundamental" <G>) because the
negative end of the vacuum tube has a cathode that must be
heated and that is more convenient if the cathode heating
supply is near ground. With the advent of transistors, there
was a time when PNP transistors were very popular, and that
lead to designs with negative power supplies. Later on NPN
transistors became more common than PNP types and we reverted
to positive power supplies. And, I must admit that all logic
ICs I have seen are designed for positive power supplies. But,
remember that most op-amps are designed for balanced positive
and negative supplies. (Well, you will argue that the newer
op-amps design for battery powered equipment are designed for
one positive power supply.) So let me give one final example
that shows negative supplies have their place.

In my profession we use photomultiplier tubes to measure very
low levels of light. These have a photocathode and a series of
electron collector/amplifier stages and then a final anode
that collects the amplified electron current. The total
voltage from photocathode to collection anode is about 2000
volts. Since you usually want to measure the DC current from
the collection anode, it is common practice to put the
collection anode at ground, the photocathode at -2000 volts
and power the amplifier stages from a resistive ladder network
connected between the photocathode power supply and ground.
So, all, or most, photomultiplier power supplies have a high
voltage negative output with the positive side connected to
ground.

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Folks,

WWW.EXE v 3.1c is now available for downloading from the D&A Software ftp
sites. It contains code which may or may not help you with some cellphone
connections. If it works for you, GREAT!!! Otherwise please be advised that
we cannot offer support on the use of cellphones with WWW/LX. This list has
a lot of people who have resolved many issues, so you may wish to post
here, rather than ask D&A for support on cellphones.

Best Regards,

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<<A strange thing is the Omnigo 700LX, which has the name "Omnigo", but is
shaped as and developed from the 200LX. I don't know why they re-used the
name Omnigo for the 700LX, although the nam Omnigo actually meant these GEOS
machines with the flip-around-screen and hand writing recognition (Omnigo
100 and 120).>>

As I recall, HP did a lot of name testing to come up with "OmniGo".  They
were leveraging it on the "OmniBook" brand. Their idea was that HP's future
line of handhelds would be called OmniGo. Since the 700lx was introduced
after the OmniGo 100, they named their "new" palmtop "OmniGo" but kept the
LX ending. As you can imagine, it was and remained confusing all these
years.

Now we have Jornadas...<g>

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Success is round the corner if you don't get round the bend...
Thank you very much, Avi.
www/lx + NOKIA6310 + GPRS does work fine now for me.
Only after a few seconds I am connected to my email provider.
No problems discovered so far.
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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:19:37 +1200
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05h47m18s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Apr 2002 16:16:35 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Not an email address book (post.adr with entries of the
> format Name <email_address>

That format can also be used in a distribution list I think.

> but distribution lists, i.e. every line of the output file
> only contains a bare email address.  This one which you
> can use in the to: field of a new email, for example
> To: file:mylist.adr

However, a bare list will be smaller - yup, another great
product from DHSoft!!!!

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:38:00 +0200
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Hi friends,

Bob and I changed the way to distribute the HPLX users database.
Please see
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/hplxudb

We don't offer it for download anymore, but distribute it via email.

I have tested the distribution system, and sent a test message to
almost all (not really all) members of the current database.
To see if it works, I would like to get a short notification of some of
you, names given below, reporting IF the test message arrived or not.
Please email to my private address.

So I now await emails from

Al Kind
Barry Marks
Bert Hoff
Ed Keefe
Don Pusher
Erwann Abalea
Konstantin v. Witzleben
Larry Mittell
Laust Brock-Nannestad
Radek Svagr
Steve Staloff
Lynn Cavendish
Zaaap

This is to verify that everything works as expected. There were some
problems sending out an email to all the 280 addresses from the
HPLXUDB, and we have to solve these problems now.

Thanks a lot
daniel


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Hi Tony

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:19:37 +1200, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> > Not an email address book (post.adr with entries of the
> > format Name <email_address>
>
> That format can also be used in a distribution list I think.

Yes, really!!
:-(
Andreas has explicitly advised me some time ago NOT to use that
format, but only the bare addresses. But I just tried it and - really,
it works. Wow. So I should maybe modify GDB2ADR and PDB2ADR now.

Thanks!
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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:17:34 +0200
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I had my own unwanted test. Years ago I blew up an Omnibook 425 by
connecting it via RS232 to a Dell Inspiron laptop. Each was connected to its
own power adapter, and worked properly before the RS232 connection was made.
I was probably using VDC-in adapters. Regulated, but definitely not the
special automobile power adapter Lind used to build for the Omnibooks. They
were well aware of all this.

As a side issue, aerial photos are usually shown using the same North-up
convention Vic refers to. This psychologically gives an inverted, confusing
relief impression on the Northern hemisphere.

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Hello all,

I'm trying to slim down the number of ISP accounts I have and would like to
get it down to one.  I currently have Compuserve, AT&T Global (formerly
IBM.NET), and Mindspring/Earthlink.  My question is which ISP is going to be
best for global travel?  Hopefully it's one I already have.

TIA,

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Roberts" <RobertsV@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE
WARNING


> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:45:20 +0200, Daniel Hertrich
<daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>
> Your are confusing "conventional" with "fundamental". For
> example. Just about every map of the world I have ever seen
> has North at the top. However, that is just "convention".
> There is no scientific reason that would make North "up". The
> reason that North is up is that people living in the Northern
> Hemisphere dominated map making. People who live in the
> Southern Hemisphere are probably not very happy that their
> part of the world is given what some might believe is second
> class status on maps.

What do they know?  They're upside down.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:50:06 +0200
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Well, I use Compuserve which has local nodes all over Europe, the U.S.
and almost all other countries. I've never had serios problems with
dialing in or busy lines, it always worked very well.

I don't have any own experience with the other two ISPs you mentioned.

Thomas


Bill Sprague wrote:
 > Hello all,
 >
 > I'm trying to slim down the number of ISP accounts I have and would =
like to
 > get it down to one.  I currently have Compuserve, AT&T Global (formerly
 > IBM.NET), and Mindspring/Earthlink.  My question is which ISP is going =
to be
 > best for global travel?  Hopefully it's one I already have.
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Bill
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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:30:54 -0700
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:03:33 -0500, "Barry" <barry@fbtc.net> wrote:

> > People who live in the
> > Southern Hemisphere are probably not very happy that their
> > part of the world is given what some might believe is second
> > class status on maps.
>
> What do they know?  They're upside down.


ROLF

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:40:13 +1000
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Well, I would argue that, from my point of view...

Peter Prime,

Victoria, Australia, Southern Hemisphere

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Roberts [mailto:RobertsV@EARTHLINK.NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 9:31 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE WARNING
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:03:33 -0500, "Barry" <barry@fbtc.net> wrote:
>=20
> > > People who live in the
> > > Southern Hemisphere are probably not very happy that their
> > > part of the world is given what some might believe is second
> > > class status on maps.
> >
> > What do they know?  They're upside down.
>=20
>=20
> ROLF
>=20
> Vic
>=20
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE
WARNING


> Well, I would argue that, from my point of view...
>
> Peter Prime,
>
> Victoria, Australia, Southern Hemisphere

But the blood has been rushing to your head all your life.
You're confused.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:53:27 +1200
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Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:07:09 +1200 (NZT)

01h10m02s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Apr 2002 22:57:07 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Andreas has explicitly advised me some time ago NOT to use
> that format, but only the bare addresses.

Certainly that was how it was originally. When I did POSTPDU I
allowed non-address info in a list as well.

> But I just tried it and - really, it works. Wow. So I should
> maybe modify GDB2ADR and PDB2ADR now.

Bare addresses still work of course,  but allowing the
non-address text does make a list more human-readable, for the
maintainer - especially useful for a long list!

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:51:43 +1000
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So thats the problem!! thanks for letting me know! I've been worrying =
for years why the memory and body seems to be gradually deteriorating. =
:-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry [mailto:barry@fbtc.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 9:47 AM
> To: Prime, Peter; HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE
> WARNING
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Prime, Peter" <pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE
> WARNING
>=20
>=20
> > Well, I would argue that, from my point of view...
> >
> > Peter Prime,
> >
> > Victoria, Australia, Southern Hemisphere
>=20
> But the blood has been rushing to your head all your life.
> You're confused.
>=20
> Barry
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>=20
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In the northern hemisphere it would be due to age.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Prime, Peter" <pprime@genaust.com.au>
To: "Barry" <barry@fbtc.net>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious -
SMOKE WARNING


So thats the problem!! thanks for letting me know! I've been
worrying for years why the memory and body seems to be gradually
deteriorating. :-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry [mailto:barry@fbtc.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 9:47 AM
> To: Prime, Peter; HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious -
SMOKE
> WARNING
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Prime, Peter" <pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE
> WARNING
>
>
> > Well, I would argue that, from my point of view...
> >
> > Peter Prime,
> >
> > Victoria, Australia, Southern Hemisphere
>
> But the blood has been rushing to your head all your life.
> You're confused.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:09:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Donald Collins <don@COLLINSDOMAIN.COM>
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Has anyone had a test drive of Sharp's Zaurus SL-5500?

I see it has a hidden keyboard (qwerty) and operates
under Linux.  How does it compare to our LX?

Don.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:29:17 +1200
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Chuckle.  Which means that those in the Northern Hemisphere lack oxygen to
the brain from a deprived blood supply...?
Tony.
Christchurch, New Zealand (also in the Southern Hemisphere for the geography
Philistines).

> Date: Wed 10-Apr-2002 11:47
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu (Tony Kan)
> From: barry@FBTC.NET (Barry)
> Subject: RE: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE WARNING
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Prime, Peter" <pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Power supplies - overlooking the obvious - SMOKE WARNING
> > Well, I would argue that, from my point of view...
> >
> > Peter Prime,
> >
> > Victoria, Australia, Southern Hemisphere
>
> But the blood has been rushing to your head all your life. You're
> confused.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:47:42 -0400
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Greetings,

I just thought of an interesting question.  With the Times2 Tech double =
speed
driver, you can press a key combination and slow the palmtop down to =
normal
speed.  Does this save battery life compared to running the same palmtop =
at
double speed?

My theory is that it doesn't.  I think (correct me if I am wrong), that =
after
the speed upgrade, the processor always runs at the new, faster speed.
Presumable, the drive acts like a program delay loop to give the impressio=
n of
a slower palmtop without actually changing the processor's cycles per =
second,
right?  If so, I would expect the same battery life whether the processor =
is
running the delay loop or other programs.

What does everyone else think/know about this?

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:47:46 -0400
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> When I get my 200LX and upgrade speed and memory, should I expect a
> drop in battery life of this magnitude?

I had around a 25-30% shorter battery life when I went from a SS 2 Meg =
100LX to
a DS 5 Meg 200LX.  I think my experience is more typical.  I have used =
4-5
different DS 200LXs over the years and none have had the extreme battery =
drain
described in the original message.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:06:03 -0500
Reply-To:     Dario Draiman <dario200@MAIL.COM>
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Does anyone knows if the part KM416V1004AT-L6 will work with the upgrade:
http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~orn/tech/200lx.html

TIA

Dario

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Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:20:53 -0400
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Don,

Saw one in Circuit City.  Keyboard is very small.  You would have to use
the stylus to punch the keys for input.  Go see one and play with it.
Retail $499.   =Bob=

Donald Collins wrote:
>
> Has anyone had a test drive of Sharp's Zaurus SL-5500?
>
> I see it has a hidden keyboard (qwerty) and operates
> under Linux.  How does it compare to our LX?
>
> Don.
>
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Hi,

While surfing around in ebay, I came across a listing for an
IBM Z50 printer cable for about US$10.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2015392107
If u buy direct from the seller, it is US$9 as the person doesn't
have to pay listing charges.

I have a Z50 and I believe that one end of the cable goes into
the serial port and the other end attaches to a Centronics
parallel port.  For use with the 200LX, the part that attaches
to the Z50 probably needs to be changed as the Z50 uses a tiny D
connector.  I think it is similar to the Greenwich serial/
parallel printer cable, but just a different connector.

I've just placed an order for one. Shipping to Singapore (Asia
pacific) is $6. To US/Canada is $3.50. To Europe, don't know,
pls check with seller.

The seller runs a charity and someone donated a box of about 200+
cables to her. Pls contact SueDevald@aol.com. As she's on
holidays from 4/13 to 4/19 she won't be able to respond to email
that fast.  For trustworthiness, refer to her rating on ebay,
username is otcministry.

Rgds,
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:42:18 -0400, Bill Sprague <eugarps@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:

> My question is which ISP is going to be
> best for global travel?  Hopefully it's one I already have.

I have found Compuserve nodes in every country I have ever
visited. That is one reason why I maintain a Compuserve account
in addition to my mail Earthlink cable modem/dial up account.

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This is a test. If this gets posted, then I have the Socket
LP-E NIC card working with WWW/LX thanks to the help of Mike
Kopplin.

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Nope! Never Arrived! <VBG>  Enjoy the speed now.

avi

At 4/9/02 -0700, you wrote:
>This is a test. If this gets posted, then I have the Socket
>LP-E NIC card working with WWW/LX thanks to the help of Mike
>Kopplin.
>
>Vic Roberts
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Good day,

I have been following this thread. ( Power supplies - overlooking the
obvious - SMOKE WARNING). The issue of 0 volts and ground and connecting
dc operated devices is amusing and a bit off track.

For devices that are powered by dc through ac adapters, the 'ground' is
actually floating unless there is a three wire ac cord with a ground. The
0 volt reference is chosen on the dc device and normally has no reference
to 'ground'.

For devices powered just by batteries, you have plus and minus terminals
on the batteries. You want a 'ground'? Declare a ground.

Positive ground, negative ground these terms belong to the auto industry.
The mentality of let's cut costs and not run expensive copper wires.
Declare the chassis a ground and connect one polarity to the chassis.

In the issue of serial communications, there is usually a common (0 volt)
reference and data wires that go to positive and negative voltage levels
to transfer data. There is usually some form of isolation to keep data
voltage levels from getting into the device beyond the isolator circuits.

We have a different story with ac powered devices. This is ground and ac
power related. This might be best represented with an example of a
service call I took while working at Apollo Computer in Beaverton, Oregon
(before Apollo was bought by HP).

We got a call from a customer that most of the devices that they plug
their Apollo Workstation in to don't work now and they smell smoke coming
from some of them.

The scenero: The company was located in a remodeled house. The Apollo
DN3000 Workstation was located in a bedroom. All of the other devices
including an IBM AT, clone AT, modem, Epson printer, HP 7550 plotter were
in the main room.

All of the devices in the main room except the hp plotter went up in
smoke.

2 problems.

1) On the serial cable with DB25 connectors on both ends, pin 1 was
connected to the cable braid on both ends. Pin 1 is chassis ground and
should be connected on one end only. Pin 7 is the data ground.

2) 'Grandpa' had replaced the old 2-wire outlet in what was the bedroom
with a 3-wire outlet. I've done this a lot of times myself. You do have
to make sure that hot goes to hot and neutral goes to neutral and ground
goes to neutral (assuming you do not have ground).

Here is what happened. The Apollo workstation had 120volts ac on the
chassis. The power supply saw 120vac across line and neutral and was
happy. The serial cable passed 120vac to chassis ground on each of the
devices that the customer plugged in to. The power supply blew up on the
IBM PC. Other devices blew on the other devices (disk controller,
everything, logic card). The only two devices that survived were the
Apollo Workstation and the HP Plotter.

You may ask: 'Why didn't they blow a circuit breaker or ground fault
interrupter?"

They had a fuse box and I would guess that they had put in oversized
fuses.

David Peterson

Part of previous message:

> > input voltage does not drive the logic circuitry directly.
>
> Well, I think there is: To avoid such problems we are talking about.
> These problems would never appear if _every_ device would connect
> alll
> ground lines to 0V. At least in a device which is only driven by
> _one_
> power supply this should be easy to do and not lead to problems.
> ...

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I use attglobal.net for all POTS access. "Access in 55
countries"

I appreciate their tollfree (you get billed later) access in
many countries, making it confortable to "borrow" a phone line .

Fine in Europe and Noth America, but some well travelled
countries are missing; Bolivia, Ecuador, Thailand, India,
Iceland., all of Africa except South Africa.
 Is compuserve better in this regard?

Etienne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:42 PM
Subject: Best Global ISP?


| Hello all,
|
| I'm trying to slim down the number of ISP accounts I have and
would like to
| get it down to one.  I currently have Compuserve, AT&T Global
(formerly
| IBM.NET), and Mindspring/Earthlink.  My question is which ISP
is going to be
| best for global travel?  Hopefully it's one I already have.
|
| TIA,
|
| Bill
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On Sun,  7 Apr 2002 12:11:42 +0200, Thomas Rundel wrote:

Thomas

> The sessions are:
> 6 - a Clipper application for managing my Comic collection

What's this then?

> 9 - HP 41 emulator

What do you use this for? What advantage to the built in calculator? I
have a 48sx which I like, but I do not use it any more.

Regards

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On Sat,  6 Apr 2002 13:01:56 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:

> Fun to think back at the Kiwis vs Vikings
> "war" starting it all! A good piece of work
> and valuable contribution to our community.

Who won that "war" anyway?

Regards

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On Tue,  9 Apr 2002 21:30:41 +0200, Uli Allen wrote:

> Success is round the corner if you don't get round the bend...
> Thank you very much, Avi.
> www/lx + NOKIA6310 + GPRS does work fine now for me.
> Only after a few seconds I am connected to my email provider.
> No problems discovered so far.

Problem is ofcourse that they (SonyEricsson and Nokia) does not do what
they are supposed to do and leave others to clean up their mess.

Same happend when my emailprovider did something that they were not
supposed to do.

What is even more frustrating is that you get exactly nobody to
acknowledge that there is a problem. You can mailbomb and call them
as much as you like and nobody answers. But I will keep mailing them
just for the fun of it :-)

Glad that you got it to work.

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John McCaskill wrote:
> I use Energizer photo lithium or Energizer hi-energy lithium, usually from
> Office Depot. A pack of 4 lists for $8.99, so it's about $2.25 plus tax per

Are those Lithium or Lithium Ion?  I don't think they're the
same thing.

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Thanks Tony and Avi, I guess I should have checked the "tips
and tricks" section, but I was so peeved by the spammer I did
not think of it.

Ka Tai



Tony Hutchins wrote:

> Tue,  9 Apr 2002 14:47:31 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 03h46m47s ago ...
> On Mon,  8 Apr 2002 19:00:44 -0400, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:
>
> > To stop this happening again, is there anyway to set POST/LX so
> > that confirmation messages are stopped?
>
> Confirmation=3D0
>
> in [SYSTEM] section of POST.CFG does this. From "Tips 'n
> Tricks" page at www.dasoft.
>
> - Tony
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While this thread has gotten a bit off track, the original
post was targeted specifically at the 200LX. A list member was
considering the use of a single, multiple output power supply
to operate both his 200LX and his external modem when at his
desk. Since the modem was going to be connected to the 200LX,
the issue of which sides of the LX and modem power input ports
were connected to their respective serial port "ground"
connections was critical.

Vic Roberts

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:09:05 -0700, David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> I have been following this thread. ( Power supplies - overlooking the
> obvious - SMOKE WARNING). The issue of 0 volts and ground and connecting
> dc operated devices is amusing and a bit off track.

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You are right, Martin,
I did the same when I found out that my NOKIA6310 chrashes
while reading EMail via wap.
Like a ping pong ball I was send to the wap site provider
and then back to NOKIA and so on.
To avoid telling the same story on and on I did send only
faxes. There was not one reply with: we are going to check
the problem and make changes.
Some days ago I read in a mailing list, that NOKIA had
released a new software version to avoid that problem.
But so far no hint from the Nokia CRC.
So we have to thank Avi for the new version of Www/lx
which certainly circumvents the bugs of others.
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If it worked with Roadrunner, it can work with earthlink. I use earthlink
and here you need to have an etherppp (raspppoe or the other commercial one)
driver loaded to connect. I would suggest getting a router/switch and let
the router maintain the connection. That is what I do and can connect my hp
as well as my desktop to the router and it is great. The other advantage of
the router is that they have a firewall as well which does protect your
computer from hackers.

YUMMV,

KeithG
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: WWW/LX, Ethernet & Earthlink


> I am running WWW/LX 2.1d. When I first obtained an Accton card
> I was able to use the Ethernet connection option with the ISP I
> had at that time, which was Road Runner.
>
> I just purchased a Socket LP-E NIC from eBay and am trying to
> test it out in my 200LX. (The card works fine in my 800CT.) I
> have installed LXCIC and am using LXEN2216 thanks to a
> suggestion from Mike Kopplin. I have gotten as far as having
> DHCP.EXE write the IP-UP.BAT file and set the environment
> variables. Yet, when I fire up WWW/LX with my Ethernet profile
> I get the error message "Cannot establish a PPP connection".
>
> One thing that has changed since I tested the Accton card is
> that I changed ISP on my cable modem service from Road Runner
> to Earthlink. The Earthlink dial-up service works just fine
> with WWW/LX and I can use MochaPPP to connect to the Earthlink
> high speed service through a Win98SE host. Is it possible that
> direct Ethernet connection to Earthlink requires a different
> script?
>
> TIA
>
> Vic Roberts
>

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I was the member...
I will run 200lx on baterries and pocket modem from MIDI +5V (or batteries).
I've made full null modem cable with 2 males like on schema at Daniel's Page
and connect the original (nm) 200lx cable to it...
Is it OK?
TIA
Zoran Vignjevic

Victor Roberts wrote:

> While this thread has gotten a bit off track, the original
> post was targeted specifically at the 200LX. A list member was
> considering the use of a single, multiple output power supply
> to operate both his 200LX and his external modem when at his
> desk. Since the modem was going to be connected to the 200LX,
> the issue of which sides of the LX and modem power input ports
> were connected to their respective serial port "ground"
> connections was critical.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:09:05 -0700, David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM> wrote:
>
> > I have been following this thread. ( Power supplies - overlooking the
> > obvious - SMOKE WARNING). The issue of 0 volts and ground and connecting
> > dc operated devices is amusing and a bit off track.
>
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The ones I listed are hi-energy Lithium. They happened to be the ones on my
desk and in my LX100 when I replied. I buy them so seldom, I don't recall
for sure if I ever used Lithium Ion or not. I only recall considering it,
not the actual event. Age sucks.

John

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:31 AM
To: John McCaskill; HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
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John McCaskill wrote:
> I use Energizer photo lithium or Energizer hi-energy lithium, usually from
> Office Depot. A pack of 4 lists for $8.99, so it's about $2.25 plus tax
per

Are those Lithium or Lithium Ion?  I don't think they're the
same thing.

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> The ones I listed are hi-energy Lithium. They happened to be
the ones on my
> desk and in my LX100 when I replied. I buy them so seldom, I
don't recall
> for sure if I ever used Lithium Ion or not. I only recall
considering it,
> not the actual event. Age sucks.

I don't think you can buy Lithium Ion AA batteries.  If you can,
I'm not aware of them.

Barry

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:12:03 -0400, "Keith Grider" <k.grider@earthlink.net> wrote:

> If it worked with Roadrunner, it can work with earthlink.

It does now <g>

> I would suggest getting a router/switch and let
> the router maintain the connection.

My home network has a router and two 4-port hubs.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:28:11 +0200
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Hallo Avi,

I downloaded the last version of WWW/LX (www3.zip). It has a compilation date of Oct., 15 2001. Is this right?


Mit freundlichem Gru_
Michael Lennartz
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On Tue,  9 Apr 2002 20:03:44 -0700, Victor Roberts wrote:

> This is a test. If this gets posted, then I have the Socket
> LP-E NIC card working with WWW/LX thanks to the help of Mike
> Kopplin.

Maybe I have lost some messages in the thread. But did you have to do
anything special to make it work? Anything we should know about?

Regards

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Hi Michael

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:28:11 +0200, "M. L." <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET> wrote:

> Hallo Avi,

well, not exactly. ;-)

> I downloaded the last version of WWW/LX (www3.zip). It has a
> compilation date of Oct., 15 2001. Is this right?

This is OK because Andreas compiled this version in Oct 2001. It was
around for testing purposes first, because it should only be a
work-around for the GPRS firmware bugs in Ericsson phones.
It has never been publicly released until now.
Actually, all hoped that Ericsson would fix that, but they didn't.
Instead the problem appears now also on Nokia phones, and thus D&A
decided to release the version as an official one.

GTX
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Currently I am with CIS, but since they cancelled their ASCII access they
are not really worth 10 $ per month any more. 120 $ per year pays for quite
a lot of international call to Germany from anywhere, so when my daughter
comes back from Britain in summer I'll very probably cancel that account.
So should anyone have anything cheaper when used rarely or not at all, I
too would be interested.

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only test

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At 4/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks Tony and Avi, I guess I should have checked the "tips
>and tricks" section, but I was so peeved by the spammer I did
>not think of it.

I completely agree with you about the spammer! This tactic is truly
disgusting.

I read Tony's reply after I posted to you, and it was hilarious to see that
we wrote nearly identical info, incl. the ref to T&T etc <G>...

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At 4/10/02 -0400,  Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE> wrote:
>Some days ago I read in a mailing list, that NOKIA had
>released a new software version to avoid that problem.
>But so far no hint from the Nokia CRC.


More people should hit them where it hurts - right in the wallet - and tell
every dealer and every person that their phones contain bugs and not to use
it, who knows what _other_ bugs they have in there? <g<


>So we have to thank Avi for the new version of Www/lx
>which certainly circumvents the bugs of others.

The thanks goes to Martin Begvill who pestered Andreas long enough and
worked with him long enough to figure out the bug in the Ericsson T39. And
I may have missed others in the beta who tested the stuff in the fall last
year. Andreas is of course the genius behind the programming. My part was
very minor: Gatekeeper, then repack the archive files and post them on the
ftp site. Most of the work was done by Martin, Andreas and the D&A Beta folks.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:59:07 -0700
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Although I do not like them much because they provide nearly zero quality
support to new users, I keep telling people about Compuserve. It has a huge
network with many nodes. I travelled extensively and they have a node just
about anywhere. The quality is sometimes shoddy, but you still get in. In
some cases (as a customer in Myanmar had to do) it means an expensive
international call (in his case to Bangkok!), but then, you get in, collect
the email, send the email, and you logoff. So an expensive call is at
least  (mercifully) short.

In many places in the US and Europe you can use some form of 800 number,
which means you can borrow someone's phone line. Many European countries
have just a "national" number for Compuserve. You pay for the time, but
relatively low. If you stay logged on and spend an hour browsing, you WILL
pay through the nose - I suggest to do the browsing in Internet cafes. For
email, i.e. short sessions, CIS is good.

I also must tell you that in some places in the US at least, the quality of
their nodes is awful (Larry Tachna, I believe, suffered from that for a
long time!)

Secondly, never ask their Feedback any questions. They have a 90% rate of
incorrectness <g>... Really awful.

Their phone support uses people who were fired from McDonalds for being too
dumb. So all they can tell you is what they have on their screens. They do
not understand any of it.

Compuserve also has two (more?) offerings: CIS Classic, and CIS2000. CS2000
is about as close as you can get to getting AOL. It is primarily web-based.
The details of the service seem to be different depending on continent.

CIS Classic has basically two payment levels: 9.95 for 5 hours (2.95 addl
hour). Available worldwide. You pay extra for dialling their 800 number,
and in Europe for the national numbers.

(2) Unlimited $24.95 (45,000 minutes). 800 is extra. Available is US and
Canada only. (I wonder if a European can open an account _while_ in the us
(Or have a friend do it) then use it in Europe full time.)

There is another offering $24.95 for 20 hours - yes no mistake. Sounds like
a rip off.

When you call to open an account you basically have to fight them to let
you open a Classic account.

I just checked the pricing plans, because I changed my own from the
unlimited to the $9.95...

Good luck.

Avi


At 4/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I'm trying to slim down the number of ISP accounts I have and would like to
>get it down to one.  I currently have Compuserve, AT&T Global (formerly
>IBM.NET), and Mindspring/Earthlink.  My question is which ISP is going to be
>best for global travel?  Hopefully it's one I already have.
>
>TIA,
>
>Bill
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hi all,

I have a good and a bad news.
Sending Emails with the Motorola Timeport via seems not to be
possible. I never got a connect not even with the new WWW version
3.1c. The phone does not like 19k2 via the data cable and probably
57600 via IRDA is also a problem. But there must be another problem
with the initialisation or establishing the data connection.

The good news:
I tried to use PDU with Robot/Lx and it works!
I do not know how it works, but it is really a great tool for me
because I get a lot of SMS and it was always painful to read them on
the phone.

Many thanks to Tony, Stephan and Andreas for the programs involved,
to Daniel for his very informative web page and to Helmuth for
telling me that it works with his Phone and so encouraging me to try
it.
The manual from Tony to do all necessary steps is great and it worked
from the very beginning.

best regards,
Werner

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:02:16 -0700, A Meshar wrote:

Avi

> At 4/10/02 -0400,  Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE> wrote:
> >Some days ago I read in a mailing list, that NOKIA had
> >released a new software version to avoid that problem.
> >But so far no hint from the Nokia CRC.
>
> More people should hit them where it hurts - right in the wallet - and tell
> every dealer and every person that their phones contain bugs and not to use
> it, who knows what _other_ bugs they have in there? <g<

As a dealer of Nokia phones I have had it! If a customer buys a Nokia
that fails within a few days, I give them a new one (I did this before
too), but then instead of sending the failed unit to the service site I
send them to Nokia and demands that they exchange it in a new sales
package.

With the power of HPLX I can keep on mailbombing Nokia until I get what
I want. It is nice to have unit as the Hplx where I can write emails
while waiting for a green light in a cross section :-)

> >So we have to thank Avi for the new version of Www/lx
> >which certainly circumvents the bugs of others.
>
> The thanks goes to Martin Begvill who pestered Andreas long enough and
> worked with him long enough to figure out the bug in the Ericsson T39.

[You forgot a "R" in "Bergvill" there.:-) As I remember I "asked"
Andreas but I did not "Beg" :-)]

Thanks! As always I learned a lot during the process. But also found
out that they(Ericsson) do not give a damn about their buggy software.
But that did not suprise me.

> And
> I may have missed others in the beta who tested the stuff in the fall last
> year.

Maybe Tony jumped in on the end, not sure when he bought a T39m..there
were probably others too I can not remember.

> Andreas is of course the genius behind the programming.

Yes he Is.

> My part was
> very minor: Gatekeeper, then repack the archive files and post them on the
> ftp site.

Well do not underestimate your part in this. You were the one answering
those late night calls from Andreas where he told you about me pushing
him forward into the "gprs world" :-)...just kidding

> Most of the work was done by Martin, Andreas and the D&A Beta folks.

I hope that we do not end up in this situation to often where we have to
get Andreas to change things because others are jerks.

Thanks Avi for the kind words.

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:23:15 -0400, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:

> On Tue,  9 Apr 2002 20:03:44 -0700, Victor Roberts wrote:
> Maybe I have lost some messages in the thread. But did you have to do
> anything special to make it work? Anything we should know about?

Well, it depends upon what you call "special". With my Accton
card I was able to use OP2216 and PD2212. To get DHCP to work
with the Socket LP-E card I had to switch to LXCIC and
LXEN2216. I did not investigate whether I needed to change
both of these or only one. I just changed both. With this
change, DHCP worked and created the necessary environment
variables, but WWW/LX would not connect using the same WWW/LX
setup I had used previously with my Accton card and Road
Runner cable modem service.

To get WWW/LX to connect to my new Earthlink cable modem
service through a router I removed the login script reference,
login name, password, modem init string and telephone number
from the Network setup in www.cfg. This seems logical, but
does not explain why the old setup worked with the Accton card
and Road Runner. I thought that the Ether=1 command told
WWW/LX to ignore all the settings that were not needed for a
direct network connection, but perhaps I am wrong. I don't know
if all these changes were necessary. Perhaps removing the
script would have been enough. But it now works, and I don't
have time to experiment any more.

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Yes, WWW.EXE was compiled on October 15, 2001 but not released until a few
days ago.

At 4/10/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Hallo Avi,
>
>I downloaded the last version of WWW/LX (www3.zip). It has a compilation
>date of Oct., 15 2001. Is this right?
>
>
>Mit freundlichem Gru_
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At 4/10/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Currently I am with CIS, but since they cancelled their ASCII access

Which ASCII access are you talking about? I logged in today by dialling in,
then gave CIS as Host Name, my id and password, and did commands like GO
BILLING, GO CHARGES, GO PHONES etc.

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Bill,

> I'm trying to slim down the number of ISP accounts I have and would =
like to get it down to one.....<<

  I recently did something similiar.  I'm using att worldnet as my main =
isp, but have kept compuserve primarily for travel when att is inaccessabl=
e.  I am not paying any monthly charge for compuserve, but I will have to =
pay a per minute charge if I use it.  So far, I have been on this new =
plan for two months and am regulaly getting my compuserve emails through =
wwwlx connected by att.  Just 2 days ago, I checked out using compuserve =
via both wwwlx and accis4 - and they both connected fine. Now I await for =
next months bill to discover what the cost per minute is.

Larry

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Tony,

> point HV to:
>
> http://p5.oa.yahoo.com/raw?
>
> www.plinkit.com has heaps of text news sites.
>

Thanks for the tips.

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:56:18 +0200, Zoran Vignjevic <zoranv@GOV.YU> wrote:

> I was the member...
> I will run 200lx on baterries and pocket modem from MIDI +5V (or batteries).
> I've made full null modem cable with 2 males like on schema at Daniel's Page
> and connect the original (nm) 200lx cable to it...
> Is it OK?

If you use batteries or separate isolated power supplies for
the 200LX and the modem, you will not burn anything out even if
your null modem is not correct. However, if you have followed
the directions on Daniel's site, then everything should work.

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Etienne Lemaire wrote:

> I use attglobal.net for all POTS access. "Access in 55
> countries"
>
> I appreciate their tollfree (you get billed later) access in
> many countries, making it confortable to "borrow" a phone line .
>
> Fine in Europe and Noth America, but some well travelled
> countries are missing; Bolivia, Ecuador, Thailand, India,
> Iceland., all of Africa except South Africa.
>  Is compuserve better in this regard?

AFAIK, compuserve does not work in India.

My ISP provides "international roaming" with iPASS and GRIC,
which allows me to log in to my ISP via a local ISP where I
travel. It seems to cover most major cities in all continents.
I tried it on my last trip to Taiwan. It worked fine with
POST/LX. The cost is US$.10 or $.20 per minute. The advantage
is that you only get charged when you use it. There is no
monthly fee.

The connection surcharges for compuserve can be more than US$1
per minute if you have to log in via a non-compuserve network
like INFONET.

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Hi Hal

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:04:20 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> Now we have Jornadas...<g>

Also confusing!
Some of the keyboard-devices are named Jornada, as the 820, 680 and so
on, but I have the impression that most people refer to the palm-sized
devices when they say "Jornada".

GTX
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Hi Daniel, From: Daniel Hertrich [mailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE]

<<Also confusing!
Some of the keyboard-devices are named Jornada, as the 820, 680 and so on,
but I have the impression that most people refer to the palm-sized devices
when they say "Jornada".>>

Yes, the idea is that "Jornadas" are HP's series of handhelds, some with
keyboards, and some without.

HP has done quite well with both current models, the 720 keyboard handheld
and the 560 Pocket PC. However, they don't market the 720 at all except by
sales reps. The Microsoft/HP conventional wisdom is that consumers prefer
keyboardless smaller devices. (That doesn't explain Blackberry, and that
thinking is probably a mystery to those on this mailing list). The HP 720
and the NEC 790 MobilePro are pretty much the only handheld CE devices with
keyboards sold to consumers. These units and all others are positioned for
large enterprise sales.

The HP sells a clever keyboard accessory for the Jornada 560 Pocket PC that
I use. You replace the Jornada cover with a cover that also contains a
keyboard. The keyboard is about the size of the Blackberry. It is useable in
some circumstances, but you still need to use the stylus and the amount of
keys is limited (numbers are two strokes).

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Hi all!

I've contacted Thaddeus about the problem I've been having with my
really low battery life on my DS 32M hp200lx.

They suggested pulling all the batteries and leaving it dead for at
least 24 hours to straighten out the motherboard.

I've recently tried that and immediately installed Buddy and a fresh set
of alklalines.  So far, I'm at 5/8 battery ticks with 2.53V and 1.62
hours on the main battery.

Could anyone who uses Buddy (or something similar) please post your type
of palmtop (HP100/200, DS or not, 32M or not), type of batteries (Lithium,
NiMH & mAh, NiCad, Alkaline, etc), any PC Cards used regularly, and how
long those batteries usually last.

Of course, I'll post the results to the list.  This should turn out to
be an interesting reference.

Thanks in advance everyone!

-Jeff

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> but it is really a great tool for me because I get a lot
> of SMS and it was always painful to read them on the phone.

I know the appreciation some of us have for the 700 is not universally
shared, but might it be at all possible to read out its ROM? The SMS
software is very nice as is reading and writing using a decent terminal.
One could use the Nokia card with a 2110 or 8110 in the 200's slot so
copying the programs to that machine might prove a valuable bonus to all
preferring the slimmer package. And a cable connection is much more
manageable than IRDA while balancing everything on one's knees in a moving
train.

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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:22:29 -0600, Jeff V <hplx@SIRVEISS.COM> wrote:

> Could anyone who uses Buddy (or something similar) please post your type
> of palmtop (HP100/200, DS or not, 32M or not), type of batteries (Lithium,
> NiMH & mAh, NiCad, Alkaline, etc), any PC Cards used regularly, and how
> long those batteries usually last.

I have a 2X, 32MB 200LX with an 80MB Sandisk CF card. I use
old NiMH batteries that I think are rated at 1200mahr. (They
were purchased from Thaddeus some time ago.) I normally get 5
to 6 Buddy hours per charge. In my old 1X, 1MB, 100LX these
same batteries would give about 12 to 16 Buddy hours. I
believe this reduction in battery time is normal for two
reasons. First, when I am working, the LX is working twice as
fast as my old 1X machine. On that basis alone I should expect
6 to 8 hours from these batteries in a 2X machine. The other
issue is that the 32MB upgrade has changed the way I use my
LX. I use the 32MB LX for more CPU-intensive activities than I
used the 1MB 100LX for. This means less "idle" time and more
power consumption.

When I first got my 95LX I played Tetris a lot and used up a
pair of alkaline batteries in just a few hours, vs. over 20
hours for "normal" operation of the 95LX with alkaline
batteries.

Remember also that Buddy only records time when your LX is on,
but the LX uses battery power even when "off". And, the amount
of power used when off is higher with a 32MB system than a 1M
or 2MB system.

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I (another newbie) strongly agree.  The use of the 700's fax software in the
200LX would be fantastic; but probably not possible, for if they could have
used a PC Card
with a 2100 series Nokia, wouldn't they have done so, rather than create a
bulky, molded plastic cradle to house the cell phone?.................Ron

In response to:

I know the appreciation some of us have for the 700 is not universally
shared, but might it be at all possible to read out its ROM? The SMS
software is very nice as is reading and writing using a decent terminal.
One could use the Nokia card with a 2110 or 8110 in the 200's slot so
copying the programs to that machine might prove a valuable bonus to all
preferring the slimmer package. And a cable connection is much more
manageable than IRDA while balancing everything on one's knees in a moving
train.

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<BR>I (another newbie) strongly agree. &nbsp;The use of the 700's fax software in the 200LX would be fantastic; but probably not possible, for if they could have used a PC Card
<BR>with a 2100 series Nokia, wouldn't they have done so, rather than create a bulky, molded plastic cradle to house the cell phone?.................Ron
<BR>
<BR>In response to:
<BR>
<BR>I know the appreciation some of us have for the 700 is not universally
<BR>shared, but might it be at all possible to read out its ROM? The SMS
<BR>software is very nice as is reading and writing using a decent terminal.
<BR>One could use the Nokia card with a 2110 or 8110 in the 200's slot so
<BR>copying the programs to that machine might prove a valuable bonus to all
<BR>preferring the slimmer package. And a cable connection is much more
<BR>manageable than IRDA while balancing everything on one's knees in a moving
<BR>train.
<BR>
<BR>Axel
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SC7 setup:_
1 Sys app mgr  558k

2 DOS work area with Norton Commander V.1.0

3 DataEase relational dbase with my vinyl collection 1500 records
(CD's -495- are in a "tailored" gdb)558k.  If anyone would like to see the
setup or a copy of the - 99% classical - dbase, e-mail me off list

4 SuperCalc 5.5 with many sophisticated programs 558k

5 Collins Eng. Dict. 558k

6 Collins series 100 multilingual dict. 558k

7 VR 512k

8 VR no.2 464k

9 Word 6 512k

10 Collins  series 100 multilingual dict. no.2 (to have a second language
open) 464k

11 Spare 512k

I have a HP41cx with loads of programs (safely backed up on magnetic cards)
which I use every day. Can one program in the emulator?

Richard

> On Sun,  7 Apr 2002 12:11:42 +0200, Thomas Rundel wrote:
>
> Thomas
>
> > The sessions are:
> > 6 - a Clipper application for managing my Comic collection
>
> What's this then?
>
> > 9 - HP 41 emulator
>
> What do you use this for? What advantage to the built in calculator? I
> have a 48sx which I like, but I do not use it any more.
>
> Regards
>
> --
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
 > > The sessions are:
 > > 6 - a Clipper application for managing my Comic collection
 >
 > What's this then?

Well, just a small program which I wrote. Clipper is a compiler for
dBase code.


 > > 9 - HP 41 emulator
 >
 > What do you use this for? What advantage to the built in calculator? I
 > have a 48sx which I like, but I do not use it any more.

I don't use that for anything serious, but I'm a HP 41 fan and use the
emulator for playing around a bit from time to time. :-)

Thomas

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It's true that Compuserve doesn't offer the ASCII interface for Mail
anymore, but you can set up a POP3 mailbox which you can access with
any standard Email software, like Post/LX for example.

Thomas
www.rundel.net/palmtop


Axel Berger wrote:
 > Currently I am with CIS, but since they cancelled their ASCII access =
they
 > are not really worth 10 $ per month any more. 120 $ per year pays for =
quite
 > a lot of international call to Germany from anywhere, so when my =
daughter
 > comes back from Britain in summer I'll very probably cancel that =
account.
 > So should anyone have anything cheaper when used rarely or not at all, =
I
 > too would be interested.
 >
 > Axel

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Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:17:35 +1200 (NZT)

04h08m48s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:08:47 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> > but it is really a great tool for me because I get a lot
> > of SMS and it was always painful to read them on the phone.

BTW Axel, the "References:" header with your message:

References: <3CB4E61B.14011.1893857@localhost>

did enable me to find the parent message, but it would not be
easy for most people to put it into context without some
reference to the person who wrote the message. The "Subject:"
does give a clue of course :) I don't know why I like to see a
reference to the person who wrote the message - it should not
be necessary, but that's me<G>.

The "References:" is very useful to me *if* I need to go back
and read the full parent message. Normally this is not
necessary. Also, I may not have the original message on file
any more, which makes it hard to thread<G>.

> I know the appreciation some of us have for the 700 is not
> universally shared, but might it be at all possible to read
> out its ROM?

I agree, that would be great! I have seen the question asked
before, and the only answer I have seen is that it is not
possible. I am not exactly sure why though. The fax software
is pretty good too, although I am happy with BGFax for the
palmtop.

> The SMS software is very nice as is reading and
> writing using a decent terminal.  One could use the Nokia
> card with a 2110 or 8110 in the 200's slot so copying the
> programs to that machine might prove a valuable bonus to all

You can use the Nokia datacard in the 200LX and do all SMS via
DataComm in Application Manager. The Nokia datacard for the
2110/8110 has a "Smart SMS Interpreter" built-in. You start it
with AT*C from DataComm. All reading and writing of messages
can be done from the palmtop. Still, it's not as nice as the
700LX software <G>.

> preferring the slimmer package. And a cable connection is
> much more manageable than IRDA while balancing everything
> on one's knees in a moving train.

In that situation the 700LX is almost more manageable -
phone/700LX welded together<G>. If I had to run for a train, I
could "throw" the whole unit in my brief case and open it later
to see the communication still going on :)

POSTPDU provides some extra functionality over the 700LX SMS
program. For example you can write several SMS, and then send
them all at once, automatically. With the 700LX you need to
send each message manually.

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Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:55:49 +1200 (NZT)

28m36s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:27:13 +0200, Thomas Rundel wrote:

>  > > 9 - HP 41 emulator
>  >
>  > What do you use this for? What advantage to the built in calculator? I
>  > have a 48sx which I like, but I do not use it any more.
>
> I don't use that for anything serious, but I'm a HP 41 fan and use the
> emulator for playing around a bit from time to time. :-)

Tom, can you point me in the direction of this emulator
please?

TIA!

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Hi ALL,

I wonder if there are or were more specific language "kits" except
those, that are mentioned in HPLX manual.
Sometime ago I tried to use other languages kits to type on HP in
Lithuanian but failed. Not all LT characters are available.
Is there any chances to find any other language kits or create/edit
existing?

Here in LT for DOS we use code pages 770, 772, 775. I've used our
special drivers which work fine on other XT CGA machines fine, but
they fail to work on HP.
Any way out or work-around?
Meanwhile I use "lisp" Lithuanian on HP :)

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> I am not paying any monthly charge for compuserve,

How so? I know of three flavours of Compuserve:
1) Something that only works and is only accessible in Germany, but cheap
and only charging actual useage and which I use sometimes and is rather
reliable.
2) CIS "2000", which requires propritary software and thus can't be
considered.
3) "classic", with the six,four numeric username and accessibilty all over
the world but charged 10 $ per month even when not used. This is the one
I'll cancel when my daughter is no longer abroad, and with her useage is
actually more expensive than having her make international calls to German
providers.

What do you know that I don't?

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> Which ASCII access are you talking about?
> I [...] did commands like GO BILLING, GO CHARGES, GO PHONES etc.

Yes, maybe. But what about go cpmforum, go quotes, go gquotes?
Those were the ones I was prepared to pay my money for and they went about
seven years ago, which is why and when I cancelled. I only went back
temporarily for the international access, but that alone is not actually
worth it.

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LEONG Ka Tai wrote:
> My ISP provides "international roaming" with iPASS and GRIC,
> which allows me to log in to my ISP via a local ISP

Don't keep their name to yourself, please. And how does it work? Do they
provide a list of ISPs with dial-in numbers and what kind of username and
password do you use to identify yourself to those?

Danke
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Ron Colonna wrote:
> wouldn't they have done so, rather than create
> a bulky, molded plastic cradle to house the cell
> phone?.................Ron

No, there you're wrong. I have taken it apart and internally mounted is
exactly the self same card I bought with cable for use with my laptop. And
when and if you use the combo often, clipping the phone directly on and
still having the use of the flashcard at the same time is much more
convenient than having to hold two units and dealing with a cable between
them. But the unit is bulky and ungainly, not doubt about that.

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  On 4/11/02 3:44:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time
  Axel-Berger responded to my:

  Ron Colonna wrote:
> wouldn't they have done so, rather than create
> a bulky, molded plastic cradle to house the cell
> phone?.................Ron

  >  No, there you're wrong. I have taken it apart and internally mounted is
  >  exactly the self same card I bought with cable for use with my laptop.
And
  >  when and if you use the combo often, clipping the phone directly on and
  >  still having the use of the flashcard at the same time is much more
  >  convenient than having to hold two units and dealing with a cable between
  >  them. But the unit is bulky and ungainly, not doubt about that.

  >  Axel

       I guess it comes down to balancing between form and function.
However, since I carry a cell phone and 200LX with me, anyway, and my use of
the 700 is primarily for the 'occasional' faxing feature;  just carrying a
card & cord for the 200 sounds pretty good.

 On 4/11/02 2:50:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
  Tony Hutchins wrote about the 700 vs. the 200:

  > possible. I am not exactly sure why though. The fax software
  > is pretty good too, although I am happy with BGFax for the
  > palmtop.

       I'll have to give this BGFax a try.  The fax feature is the main
reason I lug the  700LX around.

       Feel free to correct me on my referencing, etc. on these emails.  I'm
just learning to walk and am stumbling, laboriously, thru these ( my first
effort was diectly to Daniel Hertrich rather than to the List - (sorry
Daniel)).

       Ron

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<BR> &nbsp;On 4/11/02 3:44:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time
<BR> &nbsp;Axel-Berger responded to my:
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;Ron Colonna wrote:
<BR>&gt; wouldn't they have done so, rather than create
<BR>&gt; a bulky, molded plastic cradle to house the cell
<BR>&gt; phone?.................Ron
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;No, there you're wrong. I have taken it apart and internally mounted is
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;exactly the self same card I bought with cable for use with my laptop. And
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;when and if you use the combo often, clipping the phone directly on and
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;still having the use of the flashcard at the same time is much more
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;convenient than having to hold two units and dealing with a cable between
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;them. But the unit is bulky and ungainly, not doubt about that.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;Axel
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I guess it comes down to balancing between form and function. &nbsp;However, since I carry a cell phone and 200LX with me, anyway, and my use of the 700 is primarily for the 'occasional' faxing feature; &nbsp;just
carrying a card &amp; cord for the 200 sounds pretty good.
<BR>
<BR> On 4/11/02 2:50:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
<BR> &nbsp;Tony Hutchins wrote about the 700 vs. the 200:
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; possible. I am not exactly sure why though. The fax software
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; is pretty good too, although I am happy with BGFax for the
<BR> &nbsp;&gt; palmtop.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'll have to give this BGFax a try. &nbsp;The fax feature is the main reason I lug the &nbsp;700LX around.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Feel free to correct me on my referencing, etc. on these emails. &nbsp;I'm just learning to walk and am stumbling, laboriously, thru these ( my first effort was diectly to Daniel Hertrich rather than to the List -
(sorry Daniel)).
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Hmmm... confusing. I dialled up CIS with Datacomm (also with Telix) got it,
and did some research on the subject of payment plans, billing, charges,
and so on. I used Go mmmm to several areas etc. Is this the ASCII interface
you speak of? I did it two days ago.

Avi

At 4/11/02 +0200, you wrote:
>It's true that Compuserve doesn't offer the ASCII interface for Mail
>anymore, but you can set up a POP3 mailbox which you can access with
>any standard Email software, like Post/LX for example.
>
>Thomas
>www.rundel.net/palmtop
>
>
>Axel Berger wrote:
>  > Currently I am with CIS, but since they cancelled their ASCII access they
>  > are not really worth 10 $ per month any more. 120 $ per year pays for
> quite
>  > a lot of international call to Germany from anywhere, so when my daughter
>  > comes back from Britain in summer I'll very probably cancel that account.
>  > So should anyone have anything cheaper when used rarely or not at all, I
>  > too would be interested.
>  >
>  > Axel
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Aha!!! Yes, I tried these and others, and none work via the ASCII
interface. Only rudimentary stuff, like billing, phone numbers etc.
Thanks for pointing this out.

Avi

At 4/12/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > Which ASCII access are you talking about?
> > I [...] did commands like GO BILLING, GO CHARGES, GO PHONES etc.
>
>Yes, maybe. But what about go cpmforum, go quotes, go gquotes?
>Those were the ones I was prepared to pay my money for and they went about
>seven years ago, which is why and when I cancelled. I only went back
>temporarily for the international access, but that alone is not actually
>worth it.
>
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Axel,
 There was a similiar thread on this list a couple of months ago and =
someone (I forget who) said that when they were in the process of cancelli=
ng their compuserve classic account, the rep gave him the option of =
paying $0/month but being charged 10 or 20 cents per minute of usage =
time.
 So I tried to do the same thing (I had already decided to drop compuserve=
 classic to save the $120/yr chrg, as it not my primary isp). I was told =
that I could convert to compuserve 2000 and that as a service my present =
classic account would remain accessible through pop3.  Furthermore, that =
I could then cancel my new compuserve 2000 account and that the classic =
account would still remain accessible.
 To do this I would have to download compuserve 2000 (they would send me =
the cd).  So I agreed (I was going to drop them anyway).  Well, the cd =
never came.  I continued to get my compuserve classic email via att isp & =
postlx.  And when my next credit card bill came through - there were no =
charges!
 Second month - still no charge. Now into the 3rd month and I have =
accessed the internet via compuserve for 2 minutes and am waiting to see =
what that bill is.

 Note: Not sure this system will last!  But an alternative could be to =
sign up for their $2.95/mo for 1hr/mo program.  Had I known about that =
rate, I could have been paying much less for the last 4-5yrs of service!

Larry


>
> How so? I know of three flavours of Compuserve:
> 1) Something that only works and is only accessible in Germany, but =
cheap
> and only charging actual useage and which I use sometimes and is rather
> reliable.
> 2) CIS "2000", which requires propritary software and thus can't be
> considered.
> 3) "classic", with the six,four numeric username and accessibilty all =
over
> the world but charged 10 $ per month even when not used. This is the =
one
> I'll cancel when my daughter is no longer abroad, and with her useage =
is
> actually more expensive than having her make international calls to =
German
> providers.
>
> What do you know that I don't?
>
> Axel
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Hi Axel

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:22:15 +0200, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:

> How so? I know of three flavours of Compuserve:
> 1) Something that only works and is only accessible in Germany, but cheap
> and only charging actual useage and which I use sometimes and is rather
> reliable.

Are you speaking of Compuserve Office? I have an acoount there, because
they were (or still are) very cheap for dial-in over the day. At night
they were expensive.
But now that I go online via DSL, I don't use CSO anymore.

> 3) "classic", with the six,four numeric username and accessibilty all over
> the world but charged 10 $ per month even when not used. This is the one
> I'll cancel when my daughter is no longer abroad, and with her useage is
> actually more expensive than having her make international calls to German

And this one is what _I_ also had first, Then I called Compuserve
because I wanted to cancel the classic account, and they asked me to
stay with them and convert to a by-call account. So I did.
Now I don't payy any monthly fees for CS classic anymore, but I don't
know the per-minute rate, because I only use it rarely and only when
I'm travelling.
But it works phantatically with hte palmtop and Post/LX.

GTX
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Hi friends,

does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
on the palmtop:

I have a large text file called text.txt.

I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100
lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains 350
lines, I want the following files to be created:

text.tx1 (100 lines)
text.tx2 (100 lines)
text.tx3 (100 lines)
text.tx4 (50 lines)

Thanks a lot!
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Have You tried AWK?
Zoran

Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
> on the palmtop:
>
> I have a large text file called text.txt.
>
> I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100
> lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains 350
> lines, I want the following files to be created:
>
> text.tx1 (100 lines)
> text.tx2 (100 lines)
> text.tx3 (100 lines)
> text.tx4 (50 lines)
>
> Thanks a lot!
> daniel
>
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Try garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsutlc21.zip
tsutlc21.zip Timo's 3rd utility set (dirf,dirinfo,doubles,hidden,split,...)

Zoran

Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
> on the palmtop:
>
> I have a large text file called text.txt.
>
> I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100
> lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains 350
> lines, I want the following files to be created:
>
> text.tx1 (100 lines)
> text.tx2 (100 lines)
> text.tx3 (100 lines)
> text.tx4 (50 lines)
>
> Thanks a lot!
> daniel
>
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I found a serial bluetooth adapter on this page:

http://www.lintech.de/english/index.htm

The LinTech RS232 Bluetooth Module seems to replace the serial cable by
a bluetooth solution. They claim that no special configuration is
needed and that it is independent of the operating system.

Unfortunately it needs an external 5V power adapter, so it is not very
mobile.

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Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:08:01 +1200 (NZT)

01h48m ago ...
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:20:01 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
> on the palmtop:

The GNU text utility called split will do it

split -l100 text.txt

split text.txt into files called

xaa,xab, xac,....

Oops not quite what you want

> text.tx1 (100 lines)
> text.tx2 (100 lines)
> text.tx3 (100 lines)
> text.tx4 (50 lines)

Anyway split.exe is in tut111ax.zip but I forget where I found
this now - but if you want to know where, then by the time you
ask I will have remembered<VBG>

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The current version is
 111711 Oct 23 2001 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsutlc26.zip
 tsutlc26.zip Timo's 3rd utility set (dirf,dirinfo,doubles,hidden,split,...)



Zoran Vignjevic wrote:

> Try garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsutlc21.zip
> tsutlc21.zip Timo's 3rd utility set (dirf,dirinfo,doubles,hidden,split,...)
>
> Zoran
>
> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
> > on the palmtop:
> >
> > I have a large text file called text.txt.
> >
> > I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100
> > lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains 350
> > lines, I want the following files to be created:
> >
> > text.tx1 (100 lines)
> > text.tx2 (100 lines)
> > text.tx3 (100 lines)
> > text.tx4 (50 lines)
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > daniel
> >
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Axel Berger wrote:

> Don't keep their name to yourself, please. And how does it work? Do =
they
> provide a list of ISPs with dial-in numbers and what kind of username =
and
> password do you use to identify yourself to those?


I am based in Hong Kong. My ISP is pacific.net which is based
in both Hong Kong and Singapore. But the iPASS and GRIC
services are international.

It is a network of ISP's. When you are travelling, you can log
in to a local ISP in their network and check your mailboxes as
if you are logged in to your home ISP. The only difference  I
have found is that, since my mailboxes are not hosted by my
home ISP, I can not use the SMTP of my home ISP to send since
I am not logged in to the home ISP. I have to find out the
domain name and use the SMTP of the iPASS ISP. But that is
because one of my mailboxes does not provide its own SMTP.

You log in just like at home, except that the for user name
you include the name of your home ISP (username@ISP). The
password is the same as your home ISP. My experience is that
CHAP script, or my variant of it, should be OK. If not, there
is generally a note on the list as to which script to use, and
login scripts can be downloaded, but of course they are all
Windoze based, but I think the scripts for Macintosh are in
ASCII.

There is a list of dial in numbers available for each country,
and it seems to cover most countries in the world, and most
cities in each country (eg, 3 cities in Mongolia and Zimbabwe).

There are web sites for both iPASS and GRIC. You can search for
them. You can check with your home ISP to see if they are part
of the network.

Hope this helps.

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On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
> on the palmtop:
>
> I have a large text file called text.txt.
>
> I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100
> lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains 350
> lines, I want the following files to be created:

If you can grab the sources of the GNU split (distributed via the GNU
textutils package) and compile it to run on your HP200LX, then that could
be useful.

According to my local manpage:
-----
SPLIT(1)                       FSF                       SPLIT(1)

NAME
       split - split a file into pieces

SYNOPSIS
       split [OPTION] [INPUT [PREFIX]]

DESCRIPTION
       Output  fixed-size  pieces  of INPUT to PREFIXaa, PREFIXab, ...;
       default PREFIX is `x'.  With no INPUT, or when INPUT is -, read
       standard input.

       -b, --bytes=3DSIZE
              put SIZE bytes per output file

       -C, --line-bytes=3DSIZE
              put at most SIZE bytes of lines per output file

       -l, --lines=3DNUMBER
              put NUMBER lines per output file

       -NUMBER
              same as -l NUMBER

       --verbose
              print a diagnostic to standard error just before each outpu=
t
              file is opened

       --help display this help and exit

       --version
              output version information and exit

       SIZE may have a multiplier suffix: b for 512, k for 1K, m for 1
       Meg.
[...]
-----

I think the compilation of this tool can be easily done. It's simple
enough.

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On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:08:01 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 01h48m ago ...
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:20:01 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
> > on the palmtop:
>
> The GNU text utility called split will do it

I should read *all* my mails before replying.... ;)

Sorry for the duplicate answer.

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Zoran Vignjevic wrote:

> The current version is
>  111711 Oct 23 2001 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsutlc26.zip
>  tsutlc26.zip Timo's 3rd utility set (dirf,dirinfo,doubles,hidden,split,...)
>

Slower but onlu for text files:
ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsfcom24.zip

FILECUT.EXE     Cuts a text file in parts         05-29-93  20:44:06

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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:28:56 +0200
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| Could anyone who uses Buddy (or something similar) please post
your type
| of palmtop (HP100/200, DS or not, 32M or not), type of
batteries (Lithium,
| NiMH & mAh, NiCad, Alkaline, etc), any PC Cards used
regularly, and how
| long those batteries usually last.


I'm using NiMH 1600 rechargeables. I seem to go from 2.8v to
2.25 in 6 to 9 hours, occasional modem and network card usage.
All as shown by Battlog.

HTH
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Tony Hutchins wrote:

> > I know the appreciation some of us have for the 700 is not
> > universally shared, but might it be at all possible to read
> > out its ROM?
>
> I agree, that would be great! I have seen the question asked
> before, and the only answer I have seen is that it is not
> possible. I am not exactly sure why though.

   A flat out guess is, that the software is designed to
execute in the ROM and would be "playing" with the memory
mapping in the 700LX.  Trying it in RAM would probably end
up jumping back into the ROM, and of course out of the
running program.

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Hi once again,

Thanks to all who responded to my ISP question.  I think my best course =
is to keep Compuserve and AT&T Global Network.

Next question: What do I need to do to hook my HP200LX to a Pentax =
Pocketjet Printer?  I have two of this little printers and some thermal =
paper and would really like to use the printer on  the road.

Thanks,

Bill

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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:39:53 +0200
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Sprague" <eugarps@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
What do I need to do to hook my HP200LX to a Pentax Pocketjet
Printer?  I have two of this little printers and some thermal
paper and would really like to use the printer on  the road.

Not personal experience, but I guess one of the built-in drivers
and the HP's serial cable  WITH the null modem adaptor.

I believe that should be it

HTH

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Even though you have a lot of answers, I don't think you
included enough information in your question.

Is each line the same length?  How large is the file?  Is your
350 line example just an example or is it close to the size of
the file?

If your original file isn't much longer than 350 lines a text
editor with blocking that indicates the line number will be the
easiest way to do it.  Qedit or TSE for example.  If the program
is less than about 1000 lines long the entire process in qedit
shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to a minute.

If each line is a different length then that makes a text editor
a better choice even if the file is longer.

Further, you can create a qedit macro to do this and automate it
to run from a batch file if you have to do this daily.

I use qedit so that would be my choice but I think any good
editor should be able to do the same thing.

If the file is very long or if the lines are the same length,
some of the utilities mentioned might be better.

Barry


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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:20 AM
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> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the
following task
> on the palmtop:
>
> I have a large text file called text.txt.
>
> I want to split it into several smaller text files, each
containing 100
> lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains
350
> lines, I want the following files to be created:
>
> text.tx1 (100 lines)
> text.tx2 (100 lines)
> text.tx3 (100 lines)
> text.tx4 (50 lines)
>
> Thanks a lot!
> daniel
>
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Hi friends

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:16:25 +1200, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> The GNU text utility called split will do it

Thanks for all your answers - I have solved the problem with splitf,
found on simtel. Does _exactly_ what I want. :-)

GTX
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Le Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:27:13 +0200
Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> a icrit:

> I don't use that for anything serious, but I'm a HP 41 fan and use the
> emulator for playing around a bit from time to time. :-)

Does the emulator permits syntethic programming ?

It's with that you have real fun !   ;-)

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Larry Castor wrote:
> their $2.95/mo for 1hr/mo program.  Had I known about that rate,
> I could have been paying much less for the last 4-5yrs of service!

Never heard of that one. I'll give them a call immediately. By the way,
here in Germany their hotline uses one of those numbers charging more
than the phone prostitutes, but you do get sensible answers, which for
me is better than wasting my time for free.

Axel

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Are you speaking of Compuserve Office?
Exactly - I never can remember all those funny names the sales
departments think up and I don't try.

> and they asked me to
> stay with them and convert to a by-call account. So I did.
> Now I don't payy any monthly fees for CS classic anymore, but I don't
> know the per-minute rate, because I only use it rarely and only when
> I'm travelling.
I'll give that a try. Unfortunately as far as I can tell, Germany is the
only country with special reduced rate dial-in numbers from GSM
networks, but hey, with going postal (and spam free accounts) even
+49/172/22111 is affordable while 120 $/a for no useage definitely is
not or would only be if enaugh people used it together.

Axel
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>here in Germany their hotline uses one of those numbers charging more
> than the phone prostitutes,=20

Yeah, man. I know about those damned phone prostitutes. ;^P~~~

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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:12:50 +0200
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Hi Radek,

please give Bob your email address which you want to be listed in the
HPLX users database. The latest you gave us seems to be corrupt.

Please contact bob at palmtop.com

GTX
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100

And the simple, custom, (untested) Rexx solution...

/**/
in = arg(1)
do i = 1 while lines(in) > 0
  out = 'text.'i
  do 100 while lines(in) > 0
    call lineout out , linein(in)
  end
  call lineout out
end
call lineout in
exit


I find it often quicker to write a Rexx program to manipulate
txt than to hunt down a tool and learn its syntax.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:48:08 -0400
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Can anyone point me to ados utility that will append one file to another?

Example:  app file1 file2

would append file1 to file 2

would be equivalent to:

  copy file2+file1 x
  erase file2
  ren x file2

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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: dos utility to append one file to another


Can anyone point me to ados utility that will append one file to
another?

Example:  app file1 file2

would append file1 to file 2

would be equivalent to:

  copy file2+file1 x
  erase file2
  ren x file2

It's easy to make a batch file to do that.

copy %1+%2 x
del %1
ren x %1

call it with append file1 file2

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Bill,

When David Shier was around he made custom short cables (approx 12")
that would directly connect the two.  Without that you need 200LX serial
cable and null modem adaptor connected to the pentax cable.  You will
end up with 4 or 5 feet of cable but it should work.

OR (G,D & R) you can sell those on ebay and buy my custom setup.  BTW,
can I interest you in a nice OB530. (BG)   =Bob=

Bill Sprague wrote:
>
> Hi once again,
>
> Thanks to all who responded to my ISP question.  I think my best course is to keep Compuserve and AT&T Global Network.
>
> Next question: What do I need to do to hook my HP200LX to a Pentax Pocketjet Printer?  I have two of this little printers and some thermal paper and would really like to use the printer on  the road.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
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>>Example:  app file1 file2
>>
>>would append file1 to file 2
>>
>>would be equivalent to:
>>
>>  copy file2+file1 x
>>  erase file2
>>  ren x file2

use a .bat file????

command line to use: app file1 file2

the file app.bat:

copy %1+%2 tempfile.x
erase %2
ren tempfile.x %2
erase tempfile.x

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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:20:32 +1200
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Bill wrote:
>Next question: What do I need to do to hook my
>HP200LX to a Pentax Pocketjet Printer?  I have
>two of this little printers and some thermal paper
>and would really like to use the printer on  the
>road.

You can only use the original PocketJet (PocketJet I?)
with the LX. The PocketJet II only works with the dark
side.
The cable requirement is as described by other replies.
The Shier cable is the best option by far. Unfortunately,
it looks as if Shier won't be supplying any thing to us
any more. They recommend contacting Thaddeus, so I guess
that's your only option. If they can't supply the cable
either, I guess you're stuck with the mickey mouse setup.
If you don't have drivers for the printer, they are
available from the Pentax website:
http://www.pentaxtech.com/

It's a great little printer and works well with the LX
Good luck

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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:45:18 -0700
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Bill,

I have been going through this procedure recently. The PocketJet only comes
with a parallel cable. I bought the short serial cable from Pentax and have
been unable to get it to work - Pentax insists it will only work with a 56K
data rate. Unfortunately this data rate is only available on later model
PocketJet printers which do not support the palmtop. I spent a lot of time
trying to prove them wrong but without success.

A list member is sending me a couple of the original (but non Shier) Pentax
serial cables to try. When they arrive I will report success or failure here.

GaryS

On Friday 12 April 2002 05:58 am, Bill Sprague wrote:
> Hi once again,
>
> Thanks to all who responded to my ISP question.  I think my best course is
> to keep Compuserve and AT&T Global Network.
>
> Next question: What do I need to do to hook my HP200LX to a Pentax
> Pocketjet Printer?  I have two of this little printers and some thermal
> paper and would really like to use the printer on  the road.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
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Sat, 13 Apr 2002 16:44:37 +1200 (NZT)

03h56m29s ago ...
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:48:08 -0400, Ron Burnett wrote:

> would be equivalent to:
>
>   copy file2+file1 x
>   erase file2
>   ren x file2

Ron I believe

type file1 >> file2

is the equivalent of the above.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 11:02:41 +0200
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Hi Bill and Roger

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:20:32 +1200, Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> The cable requirement is as described by other replies.
> The Shier cable is the best option by far. Unfortunately,
> it looks as if Shier won't be supplying any thing to us
> any more. They recommend contacting Thaddeus, so I guess
> that's your only option. If they can't supply the cable
> either, I guess you're stuck with the mickey mouse setup.

All about cables, also for printers, is described on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232

It's relatively easy to make your own serial cable, if the Pcketjet is
a serial printer. If it is a parallel printer, you need to buy (or
make, but that's difficult) a serial->parallel converter.

GTX
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Hi Gary

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:45:18 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@LIDAR.COM> wrote:

> I have been going through this procedure recently. The PocketJet only comes
> with a parallel cable.

So it has at least one parallel interface.

> I bought the short serial cable from Pentax and have
> been unable to get it to work - Pentax insists it will only work with a 56K
> data rate.

This sounds like it is a cable with a serial->parallel converter
built-in, which is hard-wired to 56k.

> Unfortunately this data rate is only available on later model
> PocketJet printers which do not support the palmtop. I spent a lot of time
> trying to prove them wrong but without success.

So this printer does not have a serial port?
If so, you can at least replace the Pentax "serial cable" (which
actually seems to be a serial->parallel converter) by a custom s->p
converter where you can adjust the data rate via dip switches. These
are pretty expensive, because they use a microcontroller and some other
complicated electronics. Or you use the Greenwich cable which is sold
by Thaddeus. This one is AFAIK hard-wired to 9600 baud, which should be
no problem with the palmtop.

GTX
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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:24:10 -0400
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For those who don't khow about this printer the Pocketjet I is the one
for the LX.  The II model is for Windows.  The original model has a dual
sensing parallel/serial port.  It will work with the LX or a windows/DOS
laptop.  The cable that it comes with will connect directly the the
parallel port on an Omnibook.  The custom cable that Shier built
connected dirctly to the 100/200LX palmtop.  VERY handy small light
printer.   =Bob=

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi Gary
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:45:18 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@LIDAR.COM> wrote:
>
> > I have been going through this procedure recently. The PocketJet only comes
> > with a parallel cable.
>
> So it has at least one parallel interface.
>
> > I bought the short serial cable from Pentax and have
> > been unable to get it to work - Pentax insists it will only work with a 56K
> > data rate.
>
> This sounds like it is a cable with a serial->parallel converter
> built-in, which is hard-wired to 56k.
>
> > Unfortunately this data rate is only available on later model
> > PocketJet printers which do not support the palmtop. I spent a lot of time
> > trying to prove them wrong but without success.
>
> So this printer does not have a serial port?
> If so, you can at least replace the Pentax "serial cable" (which
> actually seems to be a serial->parallel converter) by a custom s->p
> converter where you can adjust the data rate via dip switches. These
> are pretty expensive, because they use a microcontroller and some other
> complicated electronics. Or you use the Greenwich cable which is sold
> by Thaddeus. This one is AFAIK hard-wired to 9600 baud, which should be
> no problem with the palmtop.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 15:04:53 +0200
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Ron Burnett wrote:
> Can anyone point me to ados utility that will append one file to another?

Yes, I just found a very nice one, copyright by Ron. It is called
app.bat and lists as:

copy %2+%1 x.tmp
erase %2
ren x.tmp %2

Enjoy
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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 07:56:55 -0600
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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I finally got around to getting www/lx, post/lx and hv up and
running on my 200LX and my Omnibook 800. I would like to get
up to the minute news, market closings (DJIA, NASDAQ, etc) during
the day. Can some of you provide me with what you consider to be
the best 'text' news websites that I can access via HV and the
home.htm page? I'll be setting up Roboweb this weekend. Thanks.

Bob
 Bob Christopher . Littleton, Colorado USA . bob@palmtop.com
   Palmtop Computers . Minox Cameras . All The Small Stuff

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Dell has a special on free shipping right now. I bought a simpletech =
PCMCIA compact flash adapter for $7.00 total and delivered overnight.

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Hi Daniel,

I have a 9600 baud serial to parallel converter that works well with the HP
and many printers but the PocketJet (due to its small size) has a proprietary
connector and it does not fit (yet<g>).

As Bob mentioned the port on the printer is an auto sensing serial/parallel
port and the parallel-serial conversion occurs in  the cable. Pentax has two
serial cables (a short 'palmtop' cable and a long 'desktop' cable) that they
currently sell - having tried one (the 'palmtop' Pentax part no 203236-552)
and not had it work I am reluctant to try the other. I should have known
better as the palmtop cable was touted as being for WinCE machines. (Anyone
want a Pentax cable for their WinCE?)

If the older Pentax cables that another list member is sending me do not work
then I will have to concoct my own cable from a combination of all the
different pieces (HP cable, serial-parallel convertor and pentax cable sans
its own electronics) I will have accumulated but it will not be as neat as
using a Pentax cable spliced to a palmtop cable. OTOH if a list member has an
idle Shier cable I will take it :-)

As Bob mentioned this is a very nice printer for its size - I already use it
a lot with my laptop on travel - (btw Bob not Dos or Windows but Linux). It
uses a special high quality thermal paper that looks ok and the paper is
readily available from Pentax. Cost per page is reasonable.

I also have a Citizen PN60 that works with the HP (I have a Shier cable for
it) that I have had much longer and which does color and plain
paper/transparencies. The Citizen is larger, slower, more expensive per page
(especially color) and has lower print quality. It is becoming difficult to
locate ribbons for the Citizen.

GaryS

On Saturday 13 April 2002 02:02 am, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:45:18 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@LIDAR.COM> wrote:
> > I have been going through this procedure recently. The PocketJet only
> > comes with a parallel cable.
>
> So it has at least one parallel interface.
>
> > I bought the short serial cable from Pentax and have
> > been unable to get it to work - Pentax insists it will only work with a
> > 56K data rate.
>
> This sounds like it is a cable with a serial->parallel converter
> built-in, which is hard-wired to 56k.
>
> > Unfortunately this data rate is only available on later model
> > PocketJet printers which do not support the palmtop. I spent a lot of
> > time trying to prove them wrong but without success.
>
> So this printer does not have a serial port?
> If so, you can at least replace the Pentax "serial cable" (which
> actually seems to be a serial->parallel converter) by a custom s->p
> converter where you can adjust the data rate via dip switches. These
> are pretty expensive, because they use a microcontroller and some other
> complicated electronics. Or you use the Greenwich cable which is sold
> by Thaddeus. This one is AFAIK hard-wired to 9600 baud, which should be
> no problem with the palmtop.
>
> GTX
> daniel

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Hi Gang,

FYI my wife just had me list her 5MB 200LX for sale on Half.com at a =
great price. So if anybody is in need of one ckeck it out.


Go to http://www.half.com and search for 200LX.

Reason for selling, I bought it for her  as a birthday (04/09) gift and =
she wants a Palm Vx like her co-workers. (:-o( Hey what can I say!


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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:36:40 +0200
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Tony,

the emulator I use was written by J. F. Garnier and is called EMU41.
You can find it at www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2000

I think it comes with the ROM images included, if not just let me
know.

Thomas


Tony Hutchins wrote:
 > Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:55:49 +1200 (NZT)
 >
 > 28m36s ago ...
 > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:27:13 +0200, Thomas Rundel wrote:
 >
 > >  > > 9 - HP 41 emulator
 > >  >
 > >  > What do you use this for? What advantage to the built in calculato=
r? I
 > >  > have a 48sx which I like, but I do not use it any more.
 > >
 > > I don't use that for anything serious, but I'm a HP 41 fan and use =
the
 > > emulator for playing around a bit from time to time. :-)
 >
 > Tom, can you point me in the direction of this emulator
 > please?
 >
 > TIA!
 >
 > - Tony

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Date:         Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:36:46 +0200
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Jacques,

I don't know if the HP 41 emulator supports synthetic programming,
sorry. It does use ROM images of the "real" 41, so it may be
possible. I probably got into the 41 stuff too late, and don't know
anything about synthetic programming except that it does exist. :-)

Thomas
www.rundel.net/palmtop


Jacques Belin wrote:
 > Le Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:27:13 +0200
 > Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> a icrit:
 >
 > > I don't use that for anything serious, but I'm a HP 41 fan and use =
the
 > > emulator for playing around a bit from time to time. :-)
 >
 > Does the emulator permits syntethic programming ?
 >
 > It's with that you have real fun !   ;-)
 >
 > Jacques.
 >
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Le Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:36:46 +0200
Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> a icrit:

> and don't know
> anything about synthetic programming except that it does exist. :-)

You should try to find
   "Synthetic Programming on the HP-41C" by Bill Wickes (1980).
   Larken Publications."
It was considered as the bible about SP, when it was released (hey, it
was 22 years ago.. I begin to feel really old <g>)

One other good reference is at http://www.hpmuseum.org/prog/synth41.htm .

The main problem with the emulator would be to activate the bug which
permited the synthetic programming, as it was based on specific
keystrokes....

Unfortunately, I was in contact with Jean-Paul Garnier 7-8 years ago,
but I don't kept contact since... So, I don't think to be on great help
on this subject :-(


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Hi people!
I would like to read comments from registered users of IRC/LX. Is it good?

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On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 19:51:41 -0500, Dario Draiman wrote:

Hi Dario

> Hi people!
> I would like to read comments from registered users of IRC/LX. Is it good?

I have not used IRC/LX , but I was reading a article in March/April
2000 edition of the Palmtop paper at

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/50/pt500022.htm

just when your message entered my inbox(!).

They have a review of IRC/LX in ther HPLX-L section

Here it is:

"Q: Are you using IRC/LX?

A: The short answer is that I have used it a little. It is kind of hard to get
used to, especially being an ircII user. Although it is somewhat similar, it is
different. It is quite frustrating to be on two channels at the same time. On
ircII, it's quite easy to swap between all the active windows and to resize
them. Also, there is a plethora of available scripts for ircII and since ircII
is basically a DOS port that uses WWW/LX it would be nice to be able to use
some of these scripts. One of the most popular scripts for ircII is the one
that binds the <TAB> key so when you press it, it automatically messages the
last person that sent you a /msg I'm still trying to figure out some of the
different key assignments of IRC/LX. I haven't had a lot of time since I
discovered that it was available to play with it. Does the registered version
preface the user's domain name with WWW_LX? The docs, IMHO, leave a lot to be
desired about the program and if someone isn't very familiar with IRC with a
client such as ircII they will probably end up being very frustrated. Honestly,
if improvements such as multiple, resizable windows will not be a future option
and the ability to write scripts for the client are not implemented, I would be
hard pressed to spend $25 for it. This is just my opinion and other users may
have other ideas and opinions. There is a program called VIPER that performs
basically all of the same functions of IRC/LX but uses the WATTCP stack. The
author never finished the software and never finished the /dcc portion of it.
It is available at www.agate. net/~tvdog IIRC. It's a shame the author is
unreachable and that the source wasn't included with the beta release.

Lionel Zuckier, MD Nuclear Medicine Albert Einstein College of Medicine Bronx,
NY 10461"

I hope this helped

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On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:15:33 -0700, Martin Bergvill wrote:

Dario

After reading the article it is not a very optimistic review of the
IRC/LX. :-(

How are you connected to the internet? I would imagine you will end up
with a biig phonebill using the HPLX for IRC because of the size of the
keyboard.

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Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:54:55 +1200 (NZT)

01h39m22s ago ...
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:15:33 -0700, Martin wrote:

> Here it is:
>
> "Q: Are you using IRC/LX?
>
> A: The short answer is that I have used it a little.

That is fairly plain from the comments. The paragraph is more
about "icrii" and "viper" than IRC/LX. It was a really weird
"Q/A" - amazing how PTP even published it. I remember reading
it, and thinking how IRC seems to bring out the worst in
people<G>.

> Lionel Zuckier, MD Nuclear Medicine Albert Einstein College of
> Medicine Bronx, NY 10461"

Was that the guy who wrote it? I never noticed that before. A
pseudonym - there you go, IRC behaviour again<G>.

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> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 19:51:41 -0500, Dario Draiman wrote:
>
> Hi Dario
>
> > Hi people!
> > I would like to read comments from registered users of IRC/LX. Is it good?
>
> I have not used IRC/LX , but I was reading a article in March/April
> 2000 edition of the Palmtop paper at
>
> http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/50/pt500022.htm
>
> just when your message entered my inbox(!).
>
> They have a review of IRC/LX in ther HPLX-L section

Interesting review.  I was a beta tester for it so my opinion is based
on that.  It seemed to work reasonably well but I was never really a
CHAT person.  Adjustable windows seems a bit much for use on the HP - it
is not Win98 after all.  Scripts - well, macros might work in some
fashion.  But if that other program mentions does what he wants, well,
so be it.

As was mentioned, typing in a chat environment on the hp and watching
the screen at the same time (chats move along swiftly) can be the
expected challenge.

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>Subject: Re: Who has the Most SC sessions?
>   Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:36:46 +0200
>   From: Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET>
>
>I don't know if the HP 41 emulator supports synthetic programming,
>sorry. It does use ROM images of the "real" 41, so it may be
>possible. I probably got into the 41 stuff too late, and don't know
?anything about synthetic programming except that it does exist. :-)
>
>Thomas
>www.rundel.net/palmtop

Thomas
I have a photocopy of the synthetic programming manual for the 41C.
If you're interested perhaps we could arrange a swap?

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Eduardo Seudsnimo wrote:
> Dell has a special on free shipping right now. I bought a
>simpletech PCMCIA compact flash adapter for $7.00 total and
>delivered overnight.

Let me suggest that anyone needing a new computer try buying
them from Gateway.  Gateway is promoting Digital Rights instead
of folding to the pressure from the Music Industry and Holywood.

I'm glad a manufacturer is standing up to this.  The way things
have been going laws are being suggested that will force copy
protection facilities be built into hardware such as PCs.  I'm
not promoting digital piracy but I also don't want pcs crippled
with buggy hardware that would make pcs even more unstable than
they are now.  Besides, any half assed hardware protection will
be hacked arould anyway.

Sorry I'll get off the soap box now.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:47:01 +0200
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Hi Jaques

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:51:09 +0200, Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG> wrote:

> You should try to find
>    "Synthetic Programming on the HP-41C" by Bill Wickes (1980).
>    Larken Publications."

Your discussion gets more and more interesting. ;-)
What is synthetic programming?

GTX
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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:45:14 +0100
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Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> I finally got around to getting www/lx, post/lx and hv up and
> running on my 200LX and my Omnibook 800. I would like to get
> up to the minute news, market closings (DJIA, NASDAQ, etc) during
> the day. Can some of you provide me with what you consider to be
> the best 'text' news websites that I can access via HV and the
> home.htm page? I'll be setting up Roboweb this weekend. Thanks.

The ROBOWEB/LX zip archive includes a comprehensive list of URL's in
the doc's. A good starting point apart from that is PlinkIt at

http://www.members.bellatlantic.net/~blumax/plinkit/fullist.html

Other than that find your favourite URL's and feed them into ROBOWEB/LX
and you will get what YOU want/need 8-)

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I am singing the WinCE blues and want to switch completely back to the
LX. This requires to sync APPT with Outlook for which I intend to use
Curtis Camerons OL2LX v 3.03

I have an active outlook.ost file on the desktop which I want to
convert to appt.adb and phone.pdb. OL2LX produces an error message

PHONE.PDB
 Error : unable to dump c:\cpack\phone.pdb to a text file
 Error : the file has no fields (it has of course fields and one test
         entry)
APPT.ADB
 the conversion runs and I can watch the record counter produce
 records. The destination file appt.adb remains untouched however. If I
 chose HPLX2Outlook convertion I get
 Error : unable to dump c:\path\outlook.ost to a text file

What should I do to get the conversion done ?

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HP Staber wrote:
> What should I do to get the conversion done ?

The one thing I do not like about the LX are its terrible incompatible
internal file formats. However with the connectivity pack software I get
a very nice, easy and well documented intermediary file format, to which
I can most easily write from my main database (addresses and birthdays,
thus both your needs plus public holidays like easter). So if outlook
can do the same (which with it being by Microsoft is probably a tall
order, but, hey, you chose it, don't blame us) then there you are.

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Larry,

> I am not paying any monthly charge for compuserve, but I will have to =
pay a per minute charge if I use it.  So far, I have been on this new

Is there a _name_ for this plan so that I can explain easily to the CIS =
people
that I want to subscribe to _this_ plan.

Tx.

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Algis,
> I wonder if there are or were more specific language "kits" except
> those, that are mentioned in HPLX manual.

I would suggest that you use KEY200.COM instead (available on your =
d:\bin\
drive ). It is a bit tricky to program but it works in all applications
including DOS.

I have used this ever since I have the 200LX to re-define the american
keyboard into a french one  (i.e. Q=3DA, W=3DZ, A=3DQ, Z=3DW )

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hi all,

I use PDU since some days and it runs fine with one exception.
If I use the cable connection to my Motorola Timeport 260, I can run
the program only once without an error.
With the second run I get a Robot/lx Error: ITime out. I(line 107 in
file PDU.SCR)

when the Initialisation runs, there is the message:
connecting to phone
GOT >AT
ERROR

This must be some command from the former connect, because when I run
the terminal program and press enter,  I get an empty line and
ERROR
from the modem.
After this I can run the program again once without error.

Where could this command come from?
The last function in the first successful run seems to be "hanging
up".
But where is this command set?

The IRDA Connection is not affected, it runs o.k. all times.
There is another little thing now:
The SMS on the phone is not deleted, although the program says it is.
But in fact, it is still on the phone and downloaded with each
session again. All arrows of my SMS folders are switched on.


cheers,
Werner


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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:43:48 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Any other ATTGLOBAL ISP users? Weird problem...

Starting last night I can send and receive email, both to my ATT
and GMX accounts but when it next would startup News to get my
newsgroups instead it hangs up and I get a wwwlx pop up msg box
"no pop3 server specified".  I'm (still) using wwwlx v2.

I tried falling back to older CFG files but that doesn't help so
I wonder if ATT chaanged something.  I would post a question to
their ng but I can't do it from the LX due to the problem.

Any ideas?

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:56:15 -0700
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On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:45:18 +0100, HP Staber wrote:

HP

> I am singing the WinCE blues and want to switch completely back to the
> LX.

Welcome back to the exciting world of Hplx :-)

Regards

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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:12:29 -0600
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After having purchased ver 2.x a year or two ago and then
upgrading to ver 3.x last year, I finally found the time to
install WWW/LX, Post/LX and HV and go through the setup and
the learning curve. Glad to report it is working nicely.

A question for the group: In Goin Postal and other email programs
there is an option to bcc: yourself each email you send out. I've
become so accustomed to having this that I noticed no such option
in Post/LX. Can the bcc: be done automatically in Post/LX?
Thanks.

Bob
  Bob Christopher . Littleton, Colorado USA . bob@palmtop.com
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Nokia Cell Phone Mod:

http://laurent.ca/phonemod.html

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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:14:37 -0400
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Hello, all
anybody know where I can find and download the hplx remote control codes
for various brands, especially for Electrohome VCR? actually, I got an
Electrohome VCR without the remote control, and I want to use my hp200 to
emulate the remocon. I need the code.
Bing

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Alchemija writes:
> I wonder if there are or were more specific language "kits" except
> those, that are mentioned in HPLX manual.

If you open the Keybez files on the palmtop you will find that there are more
kits in the files that are listed in the manual.

You can also reduce the kit files in size by removing the languages you dont
want. It ha been so many years since i did this that I dont remember the exact details. All I remember is the "WOW" feeling I had when Isaw that Hebrew was
already supported.

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> I am singing the WinCE blues and want to switch completely back to the
> LX. This requires to sync APPT with Outlook for which I intend to use
> Curtis Camerons OL2LX v 3.03

Well, it seems you gave it a good shot.

>
> I have an active outlook.ost file on the desktop which I want to
> convert to appt.adb and phone.pdb. OL2LX produces an error message
>
> PHONE.PDB
>  Error : unable to dump c:\cpack\phone.pdb to a text file
>  Error : the file has no fields (it has of course fields and one test

Any chance the internals of your appt book are German and that is
causing a problem?  Or outlook?

I know field names internally were different in the phone book betw
languages and that in the old days we use to provide an English empty
file to allow certain software to work.

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Axel Berger wrote:
>
> HP Staber wrote:
> > What should I do to get the conversion done ?
>
> The one thing I do not like about the LX are its terrible incompatible
> internal file formats. However with the connectivity pack software I =
get
> a very nice, easy and well documented intermediary file format, to =
which
> I can most easily write from my main database (addresses and birthdays,
> thus both your needs plus public holidays like easter). So if outlook
> can do the same (which with it being by Microsoft is probably a tall
> order, but, hey, you chose it, don't blame us) then there you are.

The exchange through CSV files works. This way I loaded my PIM/PE appt
and tasks into Outlook initially (a month ago). OL2LX is supposed to be
able to sync with the LX which is what I want to do now. The CSV route
is too cumbersome.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> After having purchased ver 2.x a year or two ago and then
> upgrading to ver 3.x last year, I finally found the time to
> install WWW/LX, Post/LX and HV and go through the setup and
> the learning curve. Glad to report it is working nicely.

It is one of the best mail clients I know - amazing piece of software
full of usefull features.

> A question for the group: In Goin Postal and other email programs
> there is an option to bcc: yourself each email you send out. I've
> become so accustomed to having this that I noticed no such option
> in Post/LX. Can the bcc: be done automatically in Post/LX?

There is, there is. When you start to compose a message (the header
window is displayed) you hit ADD and choose HEADERS. There you have a
BCC option popping up.

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Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:33:39 +1200 (NZT)

06h21m10s ago ...
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:12:29 -0600, Bob Christopher wrote:

> I've become so accustomed to having this that I noticed no
> such option in Post/LX. Can the bcc: be done automatically
> in Post/LX?

If you want to do it every time, add a Bcc: line to your
MAIL.TPL, like so:

From: Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
Bcc:  Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
Subject:
To:

Thanks for idea BTW - I never thought of doing that before!

To change your template you can either edit it or go to
compose a message then F2(add) choose headers and put in the
Bcc: header and call up your address for it with F6 and then
press F4 to save the template. It doesn't matter where the
Bcc: is in the template.

Ciao,

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Hi Bob and HP

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:06:47 +0100, HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> It is one of the best mail clients I know - amazing piece of software
> full of usefull features.

I agree!

> There is, there is. When you start to compose a message (the header
> window is displayed) you hit ADD and choose HEADERS. There you have a
> BCC option popping up.

...and when you have added the BCC header and included your email
address, press F4 for "save template", then choose if you want this
new header structure for all folders or for just that one, and after
that, everytime you compose a message, your email will automatically
BCC:ed.

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:00:15 -0700
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Tony,

Why do this? Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox. IIRC that is the

Del=0

option in the [Mail] section of post.cfg. I have always kept copies of my
outgoing mail that way. But if people do want to add headers permanently
(maybe for a mailing list) then editing the .tpl file for a specific box is
the way to go.

GaryS

On Sunday 14 April 2002 11:44 pm, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:33:39 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 06h21m10s ago ...
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:12:29 -0600, Bob Christopher wrote:
> > I've become so accustomed to having this that I noticed no
> > such option in Post/LX. Can the bcc: be done automatically
> > in Post/LX?
>
> If you want to do it every time, add a Bcc: line to your
> MAIL.TPL, like so:
>
> From: Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
> Bcc:  Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
> Subject:
> To:
>
> Thanks for idea BTW - I never thought of doing that before!
>
> To change your template you can either edit it or go to
> compose a message then F2(add) choose headers and put in the
> Bcc: header and call up your address for it with F6 and then
> press F4 to save the template. It doesn't matter where the
> Bcc: is in the template.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Tony
>
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Oops, Clearly I really should not post so late at night. Del=0 relates to
deleting from the server and has nothing to do with keeping copies of sent
mail (which POST/LX does do).

GaryS

On Monday 15 April 2002 12:00 am, Gary Spiers wrote:
> Tony,
>
> Why do this? Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox. IIRC
> that is the
>
> Del=0
>
> option in the [Mail] section of post.cfg. I have always kept copies of my
> outgoing mail that way. But if people do want to add headers permanently
> (maybe for a mailing list) then editing the .tpl file for a specific box is
> the way to go.
>
> GaryS
>
> On Sunday 14 April 2002 11:44 pm, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:33:39 +1200 (NZT)
> >
> > 06h21m10s ago ...
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:12:29 -0600, Bob Christopher wrote:
> > > I've become so accustomed to having this that I noticed no
> > > such option in Post/LX. Can the bcc: be done automatically
> > > in Post/LX?
> >
> > If you want to do it every time, add a Bcc: line to your
> > MAIL.TPL, like so:
> >
> > From: Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
> > Bcc:  Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
> > Subject:
> > To:
> >
> > Thanks for idea BTW - I never thought of doing that before!
> >
> > To change your template you can either edit it or go to
> > compose a message then F2(add) choose headers and put in the
> > Bcc: header and call up your address for it with F6 and then
> > press F4 to save the template. It doesn't matter where the
> > Bcc: is in the template.
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > Tony
> >
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Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:13:50 +1200 (NZT)

13m35s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:00:15 -0700, Gary Spiers wrote:

> Why do this? Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in
> the outbox.

Gary,

True, a copy is always kept in the outbox, but maybe the user
wants to see how the message actually looks after
transmission.

> IIRC that is the
>
> Del=0
>
> option in the [Mail] section of post.cfg.

IIRC that option means that mail on the POP server is not
deleted.

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Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:13:50 +1200 (NZT)

13m35s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:00:15 -0700, Gary Spiers wrote:

> Why do this? Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in
> the outbox.

Gary,

True, a copy is always kept in the outbox, but maybe the user
wants to see how the message actually looks after
transmission.

> IIRC that is the
>
> Del=0
>
> option in the [Mail] section of post.cfg.

IIRC that option means that mail on the POP server is not
deleted.

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Jacquest,

thanks for the reference, I'll check it out (the online version at
least). If activating SP depends on a sequence of keystrokes I
agree that it probably won't work with the emulator. But it would
be interesting to try anyway.

Too bad that there are only 24 hours in a day. :-)

Thomas


Jacques Belin wrote:
 > Le Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:36:46 +0200
 > Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET> a icrit:
 >
 > > and don't know
 > > anything about synthetic programming except that it does exist. :-)
 >
 > You should try to find
 >    "Synthetic Programming on the HP-41C" by Bill Wickes (1980).
 >    Larken Publications."
 > It was considered as the bible about SP, when it was released (hey, it
 > was 22 years ago.. I begin to feel really old <g>)
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Unfortunately, this bluetooth adapter is not quite what we want for
the 200LX. A pair of these adapters can be used to replace a serial
cable connection, but the adapters won't talk with anything else
than themselves, so they can't be used to talk to a GSM phone or a
printer, for example. At least that's what I read in a German computer
mag (c't) this weekend.

Thomas
www.rundel.net/palmtop


Josef Meyer wrote:
 > I found a serial bluetooth adapter on this page:
 >
 > http://www.lintech.de/english/index.htm
 >
 > The LinTech RS232 Bluetooth Module seems to replace the serial cable =
by
 > a bluetooth solution. They claim that no special configuration is
 > needed and that it is independent of the operating system.
 >
 > Unfortunately it needs an external 5V power adapter, so it is not very
 > mobile.
 >
 > Josef Meyer
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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:15:53 +0100
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Check what your TEMP environment variable is pointing to, and that it can be
written to, and your disk is not filling up ;-)

You say that the PHONE.PDB had fields.  Were you using 'Outlook to HPLX' or
'Synchronize' ?   Have you tried 'Outlook to HPLX' and giving a new empty
PDB file as the target?

Have you tried with both the 'Append' and 'Overwrite' options?

Check the PDB and ADB files have not acquired READ-ONLY attribute somehow.

I assume you are not running the connectivity pack at the same time - so no
chance the PDB file was open?

Maybe try with virus check s/w turned off, but not very likely.

Check you use a supported version of Outlook?

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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:28:09 -0400
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Thanks to all for your responses (augmented by my receiving 2 of some =
messages
:) ).

This one works fine and I like it best.  I'm embarrassed at not thinking =
of it
mysely - I use piping in other applications.

Ron

> type file1 >> file2
>

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Gary Spiers wrote:
> Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox.

I believe Post/LX doesn't write or use references anyway (why not, I
thought that was a standard only Billyboy and pointee clickee chose to
ignore) so the following is probably irrelevant:
Netscape can only find referenced mail in the same folder, so I had to make
it put my sent mail into the "inbox" to be able to use them.

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Hello Axel,

> Currently I am with CIS, but since they cancelled their ASCII access
> they are not really worth 10 $ per month any more. 120 $ per year
> pays for quite a lot of international call to Germany from anywhere,

Would that work?  Apart from the question of long-distance phone-line
quality, wouldn't the lag introduced by the long distance alone play
hell with answer-times and screw up pretty much any protocol?

Sven
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> > type file1 >> file2

I don't want to be a spoilsport, but does this actuzally work for
_binary_ files?  I know it does for text-files, but I would have
guessed that (at least) the first EOF in a binary file would break
this...

Sven
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From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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In Your Mail box press:
F2(add). Chose Header. Add BCC. Enter Your email adress.
Press F4(SaveTPL). Choose this box only if that is what You whant.
DONE!

> A question for the group: In Goin Postal and other email programs
> there is an option to bcc: yourself each email you send out. I've
> become so accustomed to having this that I noticed no such option
> in Post/LX. Can the bcc: be done automatically in Post/LX?

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Comments: To: Juergen Korthof <hplx@0800CALLING.DE>
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Some weeks ago I purchased a new 128mb compact flash card.

I simply inserted into my 200LX and it worked fine.

Trouble is - whenever I power off the 200lx and then power on again I keep
getting the message "Card Battery low - press esc"

What does this mean ?  There is no place I can see to insert a battery in a
CF card.  Also - I have been using it now for several weeks, and except for
this error message it looks perfectly normal.

I have ejected the card - re-inserted it - still works no problem. I have
changed main batteries.  I have not lost any data at all.

So - what does this message mean ?

The 200LX main "set up" screen tells me that :

Backup battery : OK   Main batt: 2.95 volts    131.49 hours
Card battery     : Low  backup:    2.95 volts

Can anyone help explain why the Card battery is reported as "Low" ??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juergen Korthof" <hplx@0800CALLING.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Heed the low bty indicator or lose *ALL* data, even on flash!


> > > I think what has happened is that the batteries
> > died when it
> > was
> > > writing to the flash card while doing the weekly
> > auto-backup.
> > The
> > > flash card was then corrupted.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story: turn on the palmtop at least
> > once a week
> > and
> > > heed the "low battery" warning. Backup your data
> > in your PC or
> > > on another flash.
> >
> > The real moral of the story is make backups.
> > Backing up to the
> > flash card is fine between real backups but it shouldn't be
> > confused with a real backup.
> >
>
> I agree to the above.
> To prevent data-loss due to empty batteries durieng
> flash-card-write,
> I recommend using my little proggie VOLTCHCK (see on
> S.U.P.E.R).
>
> You can find a fine backup-procedure-example on Daniels pages.
>
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backuplx/index.shtml
>
>
> happy LXing
> Juergen.
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HP, please tell us more about the WinCE Blues and why you are abandoning your Jornada 720?

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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:34:10 +0200
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Sven Utcke wrote:
> > international call to Germany from anywhere,
> Would that work?

A friend of mine was able to use T-Online's Frankfurt number from
California. He did have problems first, but as he was also unable to
connect to compuserve with the username and password I gave him, I
suppose they were nothing to do with the international line.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:26:22 -0500
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Daniel Hertrich writes:

>does anyone know which tool can be used to perform the following task
>on the palmtop:
>
>I have a large text file called text.txt.
>
>I want to split it into several smaller text files, each containing 100
>lines of the original file, so, if the original file contains 350
>lines, I want the following files to be created:
>
>text.tx1 (100 lines)
>text.tx2 (100 lines)
>text.tx3 (100 lines)
>text.tx4 (50 lines)

Hello Daniel,

I know you have already received several good responses for splitting a
text files. The tool that I use for such tasks is "sed."   To get sed to
do what you want, you would type:

    sed -n 1,100p test.txt > text.tx1

This will print the range of lines from 1 to 100.  The "p" means print.
The "1,100" tells a range of lines.  The "-n" switch means "no output."
Otherwise, the program will echo all the lines of the input file.

You can also use sed to quickly find the total number of lines in the
file by typing:

    sed = test.txt

or if you do not want all the lines of the file echoed to the screen,
you would type:

    sed -n = test.txt

Hope this helps.

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:34:00 +0200, Sven Utcke <utcke@INFORMATIK.UNI-HAMBURG.DE> wrote:

> Would that work?  Apart from the question of long-distance phone-line
> quality, wouldn't the lag introduced by the long distance alone play
> hell with answer-times and screw up pretty much any protocol?

Well, making a long distance call does not provide as good a
connection as dialing a local node, it does work. For many
years I worked for a large US-based company. When I traveled on
company business I would use their private long distance
service, hosted by Sprint I think, to call into the modem pool
at my work location in New York. This worked from the UK,
Germany, France, Hungary and Japan. Depending upon line
quality, sometimes the best I could do was 14.4K baud, but
usually I could 28.8K or better. For my personal e-mail I just
called the local Compuserve node, and the speed was much
higher.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:58:22 +0200
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Sven Utcke wrote:

> > > type file1 >> file2
>
> I don't want to be a spoilsport, but does this actuzally work for
> _binary_ files?  I know it does for text-files, but I would have
> guessed that (at least) the first EOF in a binary file would break
> this...

This shouldn't work for binary files, but the following does:

copy /b first+second total

The /b switch tells the shell to open the files in binary mode.

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Comments: To: Geoff <hillgm@OPTUSHOME.COM.AU>
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Geoff wrote:

> Trouble is - whenever I power off the 200lx and then power on again I keep
> getting the message "Card Battery low - press esc"
>
> What does this mean ?  There is no place I can see to insert a battery in a
> CF card.  Also - I have been using it now for several weeks, and except for
> this error message it looks perfectly normal.

I have the same behaviour with my 32M CF card. If I'm right, the "Card
Battery Low" message is displayed because the card draws more current that
what is usually allowed.
I tested a Kodak 64M CF card last summer, and it worked perfectly, without
any annoying message...

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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:06:37 +0200
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Hi Gary

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:00:15 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@LIDAR.COM> wrote:

> Why do this? Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox. IIRC that is the
>
> Del=0
>
> option in the [Mail] section of post.cfg.

No. Del=0/1 specifies if you want Post/Lx to delete the messages from
the POP server after downloading.
Sent messages are always kept in the outbox.

I even move all outbox messages to another folder if they reach an
amount of abt. 100, this other folder is called "archive of sent
messages", is stored on a flash card, and contains already almost 2000
messages, I have started to collect all my outgoing mail at Jan-2002.
When Post/LX gets too slow when reindexing etc, I'll move the archive
folder contents to the desktop and burn them on CD.

GTX
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>Your discussion gets more and more interesting. ;-)
>What is synthetic programming?
>
>GTX
>daniel

Just repeat after me, it's not a bug, it's a feature......

I have scanned the first couple of pages of the synthetic programming
book and can e-mail them to whoever is interested. Total size is about
370 K in 640 by 480 JPG.


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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:53:12 -0600
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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Thanks to all of you for the answer to my question re
bcc: myself on all outgoing emails. I noted that some of you
wondered why I would do this when a copy is always saved in
the Outbox. The reason is that I send a lot of emails out that
are semi-formatted, that is they have columnar data and I like to
get them routed back to me to see just how the transmission looks
to the recipient. Thanks again.

Bob
 Bob Christopher . Littleton, Colorado USA . bob@palmtop.com
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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:04:23 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Text News
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At 4/14/02 +0100, HP Staber wrote:
>The ROBOWEB/LX zip archive includes a comprehensive list of URL's in
>the doc's. A good starting point apart from that is PlinkIt at
>
>http://www.members.bellatlantic.net/~blumax/plinkit/fullist.html

Unknown Server name.

Or occasionally, Page Not Found.


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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:19:56 -0400
Reply-To:     Jon Barrett <jonzann@NETZERO.COM>
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----- Original Message -----
> Date:    Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:47:01 +0200
> From:    Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> Subject: >
> Hi Jaques
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:51:09 +0200, Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
wrote:
>
> > You should try to find
> >    "Synthetic Programming on the HP-41C" by Bill Wickes (1980).
> >    Larken Publications."
>
> Your discussion gets more and more interesting. ;-)
> What is synthetic programming?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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>

The good old HP-41 (my first PDA!) had some unused op-codes, and a couple
of bugs in the firmware. By making the right key assignments and pulling a
memory module for just the right amount of time you could create an
unintended instruction called the "byte-jumper" which let you force odd
combinations of instructions, including access to status registers,
artificial tones beyond the originally supplied 10 (up to a total of 127),
perform alpha manipulations, set odd display modes (Fix-Eng displayed
numbers in straight fixed mode until they got too big for the display and
then rolled over to Engineering mode), add short labels, pre-compile
gotos/jumps/subroutine calls. In short - you could do all manner of things
Corvallis hadn't told us about in the "basic" (ah, when HP user manuals
were great!) manuals. Of course a lot of this type thing had been going on
since the HP-65.

Jon (ex-PPC, ex-CHHU)

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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:42:30 -0400
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Hi,

I too had (have) an hp-42.  It, one day, just died.  Totally, without
warning -- as if it froze.  I still have it, a barcode reader,
and a magnetic card reader.  Does anyone know if, and if so where, this
calculator might still be repaired?  Nostalgia.

                --jim

>
> The good old HP-41 (my first PDA!) had some unused op-codes, and a couple


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At 4/15/02 -0700, Gary Spiers wrote:
>Tony,
>
>Why do this? Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox.

That is what I do. But you can send a copy to yourself at some other email
address with the method several of us outlined here... You can see what it
looks like, for example, or archive it in some other place.

(BTW. Del=0 relates to deletion from server upon reading.)

Avi


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At 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Gary Spiers wrote:
> > Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox.
>
>I believe Post/LX doesn't write or use references anyway (why not, I
>thought that was a standard only Billyboy and pointee clickee chose to

Not clear what you mean by "reference"? Reference to what?


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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, A Meshar wrote:

> References: <200204150012.g3F0CTx09990@ez0.ezlink.com>
>             <20020415064143.59940D2102@deborah.paradise.net.nz>
>             <E16x0US-0002vX-00@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

> Not clear what you mean by "reference"? Reference to what?

Message-Ids of previous messages to which the message is replying.
It's used for threading.

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Back in the synthetic programming days and with the PPC(?)
module, it allowed printing a stripchart like plot (on the
thermal printer) of 4 simultaneous state variables of
nonlinear system analysis (with bang-bangs, etc). Took
overnight to do it though. The alternative was a Tektronix
desktop (don't remember the model) or Sigma 7.

Andrew wrote:
>
> >Subject: Re: Who has the Most SC sessions?
> >   Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:36:46 +0200
> >   From: Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL.NET>
> >
> >I don't know if the HP 41 emulator supports synthetic programming,
> >sorry. It does use ROM images of the "real" 41, so it may be
> >possible. I probably got into the 41 stuff too late, and don't know
> ?anything about synthetic programming except that it does exist. :-)
> >
> >Thomas
> >www.rundel.net/palmtop
>
> Thomas
> I have a photocopy of the synthetic programming manual for the 41C.
> If you're interested perhaps we could arrange a swap?
>
> --
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The web site says emu41 runs synthetic and MCODE.

Bob

Thomas Rundel wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> the emulator I use was written by J. F. Garnier and is called EMU41.
> You can find it at www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2000
>
> I think it comes with the ROM images included, if not just let me
> know.
>
> Thomas
>

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Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:27:55 +1200 (NZT)

11h51m40s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:36:15 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> Gary Spiers wrote:
> > Post/LX will keep a copy of all sent mail in the outbox.
>
> I believe Post/LX doesn't write or use references anyway
> (why not, I thought that was a standard only Billyboy and
> pointee clickee chose to ignore)

But, POST/LX does. A Message-ID always goes out with each
message. And the user just needs to add a "References" header
to the template - eg

From: Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
To:
Subject:
References:

and POST/LX also inserts the reference-IDs.

There is probably a way to make MS e-mail software do this
too?

> so the following is probably irrelevant: Netscape can only
> find referenced mail in the same folder, so I had to make
> it put my sent mail into the "inbox" to be able to use them.

I never thought of this idea before! Thanks Axel! Would work
well, provided my correspondents reply with a "References"
header as well. POST/LX is the same as Netscape - it will only
look in the current folder for referenced e-mail. The magic
key is Alt+T and you get the chance to search for the
Parent/Child/Sibling.

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14h18m48s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:04:23 -0700, A Meshar wrote:

> >http://www.members.bellatlantic.net/~blumax/plinkit/fullist.html
>
> Unknown Server name.
>
> Or occasionally, Page Not Found.

www.plinkit.com

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Le Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:40:11 +1200
Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> a =E9crit:

> But, POST/LX does. A Message-ID always goes out with each
> message. And the user just needs to add a "References" header
> to the template - eg

Hey, it is a great new that Post/Lx has a (hidden..?) gestion of
References header.

=46rom which version is this option available ?
Is the "Reply-To" header also recognized ?

Now that we know this option exists, can all Post/LX subscribers of this
list can do a favour to other reader using treading compatible
e-mailers:
 Can you all add the "Reference" header in your template ?


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At 4/16/02 +1200, you wrote:
>Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:23:11 +1200 (NZT)
>
>14h18m48s ago ...
>On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:04:23 -0700, A Meshar wrote:
>
> > >http://www.members.bellatlantic.net/~blumax/plinkit/fullist.html
> >
> > Unknown Server name.
> >
> > Or occasionally, Page Not Found.
>
>www.plinkit.com

Yes, works. Thanks.


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Hi

Could anyone here help out the guy?

Please copy your replies to the list too, because I think it would be
interesting to see what I have missed.

I joined the Hplx world in 1998, many years too late.

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From: "rcn" <ekoblentz@rcn.com>
Subject: World's first handheld computer?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:41:34 -0400

Hi all ... I'm doing some research for a book.  What is the world's first
PDA?  It's definitely NOT the Newton - nothing is further from the truth.
Psion 1 was in 1984.  And the HP-41C, while on the surface it's just a
scientific/programmable calculator, was actually the first to have
alphanumeric capability - so while it wasn't marketed as an organiser, you
could write such a program for it.

Anyone care to help out?

- Evan K., Boston, Mass. (evan947@yahoo.com)
(Serious replies only -- PLEASE!)


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I used to run a point of sale system with a TI 59 programmable calculator
and a thermal printer. It used magnetic cards for storing programs and data.
I had my warranty sales records on file and could look up the purchase date
for a customer when they brought in a unit for repair.

When was this?

1976-1979

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
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Would the Timex/Sinclair qualify?

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On 15.04.2002 at 19:21 Tom Salwasser wrote:

>Would the Timex/Sinclair qualify?

I am not sure. I have asked the guy to join us on the list.

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:26:39PM -0500, Theodore Heise wrote:
> Message-Ids of previous messages to which the message is replying.
> It's used for threading.

Strictly speaking, In-Reply-To: alone is sufficient for
threading.  In fact, In-Reply-To: can /always/ be generated for
replies, while there are circumstances under which References:
generation is actually discouraged by RFC 2822.

If an MUA /requires/ References: to do threading, it's
arguably broken.

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02h01m34s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:36:05 +0200, Jacques Belin wrote:

> Le Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:40:11 +1200
> Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> a icrit:
>
> > But, POST/LX does. A Message-ID always goes out with each
> > message. And the user just needs to add a "References" header
> > to the template - eg
>
> Hey, it is a great new that Post/Lx has a (hidden..?) gestion of
> References header.
>
> From which version is this option available ?

Probably from the begining - certainly from 1998.

> Is the "Reply-To" header also recognized ?

Yes, any header can be put in the template, and if it has a
content then POST.EXE will send it out. For example, if you
write a new message then the "References:" body is blank so it
is not sent.

> Now that we know this option exists, can all Post/LX
> subscribers of this list can do a favour to other reader
> using treading compatible e-mailers:

>  Can you all add the "Reference" header in your template ?

Jacques, Axel will be pleased to read this! <VBG>
And, after all Axel now has gone to the trouble of prefixing
his quotations with the writer's name, so this is the least we
can do. I have had "References:" turned on for years and
nobody ever noticed till now<G>. I also have:

X-Mailer:=+
Reply-To:=+
Message-ID:=+
References:=+

in my POST.CFG [FILTER] section so I always see these headers
even when reading a message.

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Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:51:05 +1200 (NZT)

1 day 01h11m02s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 01:40:03 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> hi all,
>
> I use PDU since some days and it runs fine with one
> exception.  If I use the cable connection to my Motorola
> Timeport 260, I can run the program only once without
> an error.  With the second run I get a Robot/lx Error:
> ITime out. I(line 107 in file PDU.SCR)

Hi Werner,

Well, it looks like you use POSTPDU and as I wrote the PDU.SCR
I should support it. You have since written to me to say that
you were using WWW v2 but when you change to even a demo WWW
v3 there is no problem with the modem. I think I understand
the situation now. WWW v3 uses a different technique to hang
up the modem - it uses DTR. WWW v2 used a "soft" method - and
as your serial port is set to 56000 I think WWW v2 would have
problems hanging up properly.

May I use this as an opportunity to recommend WWW v3? First of
all it is officially supported. More importantly it is
superior in many subtle ways - the hard hangup, the buffered
transport (faster), and the latest release automatically
compensates for strange PPP servers. My guess is that WWW v3
will require very little support :)

Back to your questions:

> when the Initialisation runs, there is the message:
> connecting to phone
> GOT >AT
> ERROR
>
> This must be some command from the former connect, because
> when I run the terminal program and press enter,  I get an
> empty line and
> ERROR
> from the modem.
> After this I can run the program again once without error.

The ">AT" is not from the former connect it is an echo from
the present attempt to send "AT" and get "OK".

> Where could this command come from?
> The last function in the first successful run seems to be
> "hanging up".

> But where is this command set?

The Robot/lx Error tells the answer:

 Robot/lx Error:  ITime out. I(line 107 in file PDU.SCR)

> The IRDA Connection is not affected, it runs o.k. all times.

That's good at least :)

> There is another little thing now:
> The SMS on the phone is not deleted, although the program
> says it is.

Was this an SMS you wrote, or one received?
Is it stored on the phone or in the SIM card?
Do you use the `Delstored' or `Retstored' options?
When you write "the program says it is" what do you mean?

The display does flash by pretty quickly and it is not easy to
tell what the program says <G>. Only if you have quite a few
messages, or a large outbox, do you get the chance to see what
is happening.

> But in fact, it is still on the phone and downloaded
> with each session again. All arrows of my SMS folders are
> switched on.

How many folders do you have? This could be important. Maybe
one of then has "H" instead of downarrow?

I see PDU.SCR says it was tested with a

; Motorola: L7089

is that the same as your phone?

When PDU.SCR deletes a message it sends a delete command and if
it gets an "OK" back then, as far as PDU.SCR knows, the
message was deleted. If that is what is happening then there
is nothing I can do, sorry. If the command to delete was wrong
then the phone should not send an "OK".

But, if you do get POSTPDU working fine with your Timeport
then I can add it to the list of phones it has been tested
with. That would be great!

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15h53m41s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:43:53 +0200, Sven Utcke wrote:

> > > type file1 >> file2
>
> I don't want to be a spoilsport, but does this actuzally
> work for _binary_ files?  I know it does for text-files,
> but I would have guessed that (at least) the first EOF in
> a binary file would break this...

I am sure you are right. DOS notices a CTL-Z even embedded in
an otherwise regular ascii file. AFAIK even

copy file1+file2 file3

would not work for anything after a CTRL-Z

I interested to know why you made the comment, so:

why would you want to append two binary files?
how would you do it from the command line?

I'd be interested to know if there is a well known tool for
this. Even in Unix "cat" or "join" is only for text files.

Fortunately<G> the original question was about text files.

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I'd found a program called "calh", which can convert from Gregorian =
to/from different calendar systems like, Julian, Hebrew, Egyptian and =
Chinese Lunar Calendar.
It use a strange name Uighur for Chinese Lunar Calendar, and need to =
subtract 1264 year when converting to Gregorian to get it right. Don't =
know about other system. Anyone wants to try? You can download from:
http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~dalen/calh/calh.zip
It works on HP200LX.

Roger

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Chinese Lunar=20
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href=3D"http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~dalen/calh/calh.zip">http://www.r=
z.uni-frankfurt.de/~dalen/calh/calh.zip</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It works on HP200LX.</FONT></DIV>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 01:50:49PM +1200, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> I'd be interested to know if there is a well known tool for
> this. Even in Unix "cat" or "join" is only for text files.

Nope.  Both "cat" and "join" behave in the same manner for both
text and binary files -- Unix makes no distinction between
the two.  The output of "join" may of course look rather
strange when processing binary files, but both utilities will
process every single byte.

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 Wow!  I'd heard of this but didn't investigate it because, for some wacky reason, I thought it was just a "luggable" like to Osborne, Kaypro, Compaq, etc. - but just now I did a cursory Yahoo search and it seems to fit the bill.  Anyone out there
familiar with what this device did beside be a calculator?  I see it has alphanumeric functions/keyboard of sorts - did it actually come with rudimentary applications or did it have to be programmed?  The answer to that question is the difference between
being more like the HP-41C (1979, sci. calc. but the first to have alphanumeric ability) and the Psion Organiser 1 (1983/4, first marketed/packaged with organizer software.)
Speaking of which.... hello, everyone out there in listworld!  Martin Bergvill tells me that I've sparked some discussion.  I see a couple of replies in my email inbox, but I suspect I missed some, because I just joined your wonderful list ten minutes
ago.  Some background: I'm a reporter at eWeek magazine (the Ziff-Davis publication formerly called PC Week), and in my personal/non-work time, I'm writing a book about the history of mobile computing, from the abacus to the PDA.  (At eWeek my beat is
storage - i.e. EMC Corp., etc.)
Any help list people can provide will definitely be acknowledged in the book, which I hope to complete in the next nine months or so.
Thanks all,
Evan Koblentz, Boston, Mass., USA
PS - Could someone update me on what I missed in this discussion?
  Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@compuserve.com> wrote: Would the Timex/Sinclair qualify?



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<P>&nbsp;Wow!&nbsp; I'd heard of this but didn't investigate it because, for some wacky reason, I thought it was just a "luggable" like to Osborne, Kaypro, Compaq, etc.&nbsp;- but just now I did a cursory Yahoo search and it seems to fit the bill.&nbsp;
Anyone out there familiar with what this device did beside be a calculator?&nbsp; I see it has alphanumeric functions/keyboard of sorts - did it actually come with rudimentary applications or did it have to be programmed?&nbsp; The answer to that question
is the difference between being more like the HP-41C (1979, sci. calc. but the first to have alphanumeric ability) and the Psion Organiser 1 (1983/4, first marketed/packaged with organizer software.)
<P>Speaking of which.... hello, everyone out there in listworld!&nbsp; Martin Bergvill tells me that I've sparked some discussion.&nbsp; I see a couple of replies in my email inbox, but I suspect I missed some, because&nbsp;I just joined your wonderful
list ten minutes ago.&nbsp; Some background: I'm a reporter at eWeek magazine (the Ziff-Davis publication formerly called PC Week), and in my personal/non-work time, I'm writing a book about the history of mobile computing, from the abacus to the
PDA.&nbsp; (At eWeek my beat is storage - i.e. EMC Corp., etc.)
<P>Any help list people can provide will definitely be acknowledged in the book, which I hope to complete in the next nine months or so.
<P>Thanks all,
<P>Evan Koblentz, Boston, Mass., USA
<P>PS - Could someone update me on what I missed in this discussion?
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>Tom Salwasser &lt;TomSalwasser@compuserve.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Would the Timex/Sinclair qualify?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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So what happened to the Jornada 720?  or was it an MSOutlook problem?
 You were my role model is trying out the competition.

For me the J720 works fine and serves as the primary work tool.  I use
 MS Outlook as little as possible.   I only use it to move address
 data in/out of the Jornada.  Actually, Zaurus 5800, HP200LX and other
 HPC models have taught me to consider the handheld computer as
 primary for calendar, contacts, and task information.  I don't bother
 using the desktop at all.  That is one reason why I won't consider an
 HPC w/o some sort of a keyboard or thumbboard.  HWR just does NOT
 meet the need for data input any more than poking at an icon or two,
 maybe a few characters.  I've certainly tried enough units (Palm &
 PPC) to know that HWR and I don't get along for daily entry
 activities.

In sync'ing to the desktop, I always have the J720 overwrite Outlook
 data and use Intellisync to link up with Groupwise (required). Thanks
 to ability of the backup application to be selective in what it backs
 up, it is quick and easy to back up to a CF card and I haven't had
 any problems.  I have used the backup a couple times when I got to
 poking at the screen too fast - not letting operations complete
 before poking at the location where I knew the icon would show up,
 and the WinCE OS or the GUI got lost and messed up a record thus
 rendering the whole file unstable.

Tim

   >
   >Date:    Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:45:18 +0100
   >From:    HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
   >Subject: Outlook<->200LX
   >
   >I am singing the WinCE blues and want to switch completely back to
 the
   >LX. This requires to sync APPT with Outlook for which I intend to
 use
   >Curtis Camerons OL2LX v 3.03

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Yves,

> Is there a _name_ for this plan so that I can explain easily to the CIS =
people that I want to subscribe to _this_ plan.
>

No, and I had a very hard time describing it to the cis person. But she =
did admit that I could convert to cs2000, then cancel it, and that my cs =
classic would remain.  Just be firm.

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Sven,
> international call to Germany from anywhere,
> Would that work?

I called from Indonesia, Korea, and Japan using ATT direct access numbers =
to call back to U.S.  Never had any line interference problems.

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Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: dos utility to append one file to another


> Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:37:34 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 15h53m41s ago ...
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:43:53 +0200, Sven Utcke wrote:
>
> > > > type file1 >> file2
> >
> > I don't want to be a spoilsport, but does this actuzally
> > work for _binary_ files?  I know it does for text-files,
> > but I would have guessed that (at least) the first EOF in
> > a binary file would break this...
>
> I am sure you are right. DOS notices a CTL-Z even embedded in
> an otherwise regular ascii file. AFAIK even
>
> copy file1+file2 file3
>
> would not work for anything after a CTRL-Z

copy will work with binary files if you use /b.
  eg: copy /b file1+file2 file3.

I use that all the time for appending MP3 files.  As long as
they don't have ID3 tags and they're the same specs it works
just fine.

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>>I am sure you are right. DOS notices a CTL-Z even embedded in
>>an otherwise regular ascii file. AFAIK even

I think there is a /b option for the copy command to ignore the ctrl z

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Are you talking about the Timex Sinclair?  That was a very small
computer that had to be attatched to a TV set to work.  And if I
remember right it had a fairly large power brick.  There was
nothing portable about it.  I don't think it could be called a
PDA.

But you really didn't say what you were referring to.  I'm
assuming Timex Sinclair because you replied to a message about
them.

Sharp and Radio Shack both sold a pocket computer.  It was the
same computer, made by Sharp but Radio Shack had their name on
the ones they sold.

It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard
and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
drawn to.  It was only one text line high by about 24 characters
wide.  I don't remember how many pixels it had.

It had a not too powerful version of Basic but it was good
enough to be pretty useful in a device like this.  I'm not sure
but it might be thought of as a PDA.

Later models (the PC4 or 5, I forget which) had a built in
address book as well.  But the PC1 and PC3 was just Basic and a
calculator and you had to write your own program for the PDA.  I
think the first ones had 1k and later ones had 1.5k and then 3k.

Barry


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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


>
>  Wow!  I'd heard of this but didn't investigate it because,
for some wacky reason, I thought it was just a "luggable" like
to Osborne, Kaypro, Compaq, etc. - but just now I did a cursory
Yahoo search and it seems to fit the bill.  Anyone out there
familiar with what this device did beside be a calculator?  I
see it has alphanumeric functions/keyboard of sorts - did it
actually come with rudimentary applications or did it have to be
programmed?  The answer to that question is the difference
between being more like the HP-41C (1979, sci. calc. but the
first to have alphanumeric ability) and the Psion Organiser 1
(1983/4, first marketed/packaged with organizer software.)
> Speaking of which.... hello, everyone out there in listworld!
Martin Bergvill tells me that I've sparked some discussion.  I
see a couple of replies in my email inbox, but I suspect I
missed some, because I just joined your wonderful list ten
minutes ago.  Some background: I'm a reporter at eWeek magazine
(the Ziff-Davis publication formerly called PC Week), and in my
personal/non-work time, I'm writing a book about the history of
mobile computing, from the abacus to the PDA.  (At eWeek my beat
is storage - i.e. EMC Corp., etc.)
> Any help list people can provide will definitely be
acknowledged in the book, which I hope to complete in the next
nine months or so.
> Thanks all,
> Evan Koblentz, Boston, Mass., USA
> PS - Could someone update me on what I missed in this
discussion?
>   Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@compuserve.com> wrote: Would the
Timex/Sinclair qualify?
>
>
>
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 Barry, thanks for the T-S explanation.  I thought I knew there was a catch to it but I wasn't sure.  Obviously I didn't realize it needs its own television!
The Sharp/Radio Shack (Tandy) machine you refer to is well explained at http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml.  It's circa 1982.  As you noted, it needed programming; to quote from the site linked above, "The Sharp PC-1500 is an 8-bit pocket
computer introduced in 1982. It is capable of running programs written in BASIC or can be used as a calculator. It can also be programmed in LH-5801 machine code. The Tandy TRS-80 PC-2 (Radio Shack) is the same machine with a different keyboard layout."

  Barry <barry@fbtc.net> wrote: Are you talking about the Timex Sinclair? That was a very small
computer that had to be attatched to a TV set to work. And if I
remember right it had a fairly large power brick. There was
nothing portable about it. I don't think it could be called a
PDA.

But you really didn't say what you were referring to. I'm
assuming Timex Sinclair because you replied to a message about
them.

Sharp and Radio Shack both sold a pocket computer. It was the
same computer, made by Sharp but Radio Shack had their name on
the ones they sold.

It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard
and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
drawn to. It was only one text line high by about 24 characters
wide. I don't remember how many pixels it had.

It had a not too powerful version of Basic but it was good
enough to be pretty useful in a device like this. I'm not sure
but it might be thought of as a PDA.

Later models (the PC4 or 5, I forget which) had a built in
address book as well. But the PC1 and PC3 was just Basic and a
calculator and you had to write your own program for the PDA. I
think the first ones had 1k and later ones had 1.5k and then 3k.

Barry


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To:
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


>
> Wow! I'd heard of this but didn't investigate it because,
for some wacky reason, I thought it was just a "luggable" like
to Osborne, Kaypro, Compaq, etc. - but just now I did a cursory
Yahoo search and it seems to fit the bill. Anyone out there
familiar with what this device did beside be a calculator? I
see it has alphanumeric functions/keyboard of sorts - did it
actually come with rudimentary applications or did it have to be
programmed? The answer to that question is the difference
between being more like the HP-41C (1979, sci. calc. but the
first to have alphanumeric ability) and the Psion Organiser 1
(1983/4, first marketed/packaged with organizer software.)
> Speaking of which.... hello, everyone out there in listworld!
Martin Bergvill tells me that I've sparked some discussion. I
see a couple of replies in my email inbox, but I suspect I
missed some, because I just joined your wonderful list ten
minutes ago. Some background: I'm a reporter at eWeek magazine
(the Ziff-Davis publication formerly called PC Week), and in my
personal/non-work time, I'm writing a book about the history of
mobile computing, from the abacus to the PDA. (At eWeek my beat
is storage - i.e. EMC Corp., etc.)
> Any help list people can provide will definitely be
acknowledged in the book, which I hope to complete in the next
nine months or so.
> Thanks all,
> Evan Koblentz, Boston, Mass., USA
> PS - Could someone update me on what I missed in this
discussion?
> Tom Salwasser wrote: Would the
Timex/Sinclair qualify?
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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<P> Barry, thanks for the T-S explanation.&nbsp; I thought I knew there was a catch to it but I wasn't sure.&nbsp; Obviously I didn't realize it needs its own television!
<P>The Sharp/Radio Shack (Tandy) machine you refer to is well explained at <A href="http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml">http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml</A>.&nbsp; It's circa 1982.&nbsp; As you noted, it needed programming; to
quote from the site linked above, "The Sharp PC-1500 is an 8-bit pocket computer introduced in 1982. It is capable of running programs written in BASIC or can be used as a calculator. It can also be programmed in LH-5801 machine code. The Tandy TRS-80
PC-2 (Radio Shack) is the same machine with a different keyboard layout."
<P>&nbsp;
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>Barry &lt;barry@fbtc.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Are you talking about the Timex Sinclair? That was a very small<BR>computer that had to be attatched to a TV set to work. And if I<BR>remember right it had a fairly
large power brick. There was<BR>nothing portable about it. I don't think it could be called a<BR>PDA.<BR><BR>But you really didn't say what you were referring to. I'm<BR>assuming Timex Sinclair because you replied to a message about<BR>them.<BR><BR>Sharp
and Radio Shack both sold a pocket computer. It was the<BR>same computer, made by Sharp but Radio Shack had their name on<BR>the ones they sold.<BR><BR>It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard<BR>and a small digital lcd display that
could be printed to or<BR>drawn to. It was only one text line high by about 24 characters<BR>wide. I don't remember how many pixels it had.<BR><BR>It had a not too powerful version of Basic but it was good<BR>enough to be pretty useful in a device like
this. I'm
 not sure<BR>but it might be thought of as a PDA.<BR><BR>Later models (the PC4 or 5, I forget which) had a built in<BR>address book as well. But the PC1 and PC3 was just Basic and a<BR>calculator and you had to write your own program for the PDA.
I<BR>think the first ones had 1k and later ones had 1.5k and then 3k.<BR><BR>Barry<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "evan koblentz" <EVAN947@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU><BR>Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:09 PM<BR>Subject:
Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Wow! I'd heard of this but didn't investigate it because,<BR>for some wacky reason, I thought it was just a "luggable" like<BR>to Osborne, Kaypro, Compaq, etc. - but just now I did a
cursory<BR>Yahoo search and it seems to fit the bill. Anyone out there<BR>familiar with what this device did beside be a calculator? I<BR>see it has alphanumeric functions/keyboard of sorts - did it<BR>actually come with rudimentary applications or did it
have to be<BR>prog
rammed? The answer to that question is the difference<BR>between being more like the HP-41C (1979, sci. calc. but the<BR>first to have alphanumeric ability) and the Psion Organiser 1<BR>(1983/4, first marketed/packaged with organizer software.)<BR>&gt;
Speaking of which.... hello, everyone out there in listworld!<BR>Martin Bergvill tells me that I've sparked some discussion. I<BR>see a couple of replies in my email inbox, but I suspect I<BR>missed some, because I just joined your wonderful list
ten<BR>minutes ago. Some background: I'm a reporter at eWeek magazine<BR>(the Ziff-Davis publication formerly called PC Week), and in my<BR>personal/non-work time, I'm writing a book about the history of<BR>mobile computing, from the abacus to the PDA.
(At eWeek my beat<BR>is storage - i.e. EMC Corp., etc.)<BR>&gt; Any help list people can provide will definitely be<BR>acknowledged in the book, which I hope to complete in the next<BR>nine months or so.<BR>&gt; Thanks all,<BR>&gt; Evan Koblentz, Boston,
Mass., USA<BR>&g
t; PS - Could someone update me on what I missed in this<BR>discussion?<BR>&gt; Tom Salwasser <TOMSALWASSER@COMPUSERVE.COM>wrote: Would the<BR>Timex/Sinclair qualify?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ---------------------------------<BR>&gt; Do You
Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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An avid Palmtopper, Dr Gerhard Behrens, has this gem:

(download at:
http://www.lib.umich.edu/libhome/Area.Programs/Near.East/computus.zip )

COMPUTUS CALENDAR CONVERSION PROGRAM

Computus.exe (named after the medieval Computus, also a calendar document)
is a calendar
conversion program for a DOS-platform (it needs MS-DOS 2.11 or later)
written in Borlands
Turbo-Pascal V.6 and operated by very simple key-strokes. As it is a
pre-Windows application
no copy/paste facilities are included ( sorry!) but it is quick and does
not need much memory or
disk space so it works even in small handheld Dos-computers such as the
HP200LX making it an
efficient tool for the traveling or library browsing crowd. It opens with a
vertically split screen
with the input or source calendar options (the calendar from which you want
to convert) on the
left and the output or target calendar options (the calendar into which you
want to convert) on
the right. The target menu appears only after you have completed the input
operations.
Conversions can be made directly from any calendar on the left into any
calendar on the right
but most of the times you will probably change only from or into Christian
dates; so although
you can change French Revolution era dates directly into the Armenian
calendar I doubt that you
will often need to do that!

At the start you select the calendar of which you know the date by
highlighting it with the cursor
and pressing <ENTER>. You can then enter first the day, press <ENTER>,
highlight the month
using the cursor again, press <ENTER> and finally enter the year, followed
by <ENTER>. Now
you will be switched to the right side where you highlight the calendar
which you want to know,
press <ENTER> and presto: You have your date (including the day of the week).

Historians often need only to know the equivalent month(s) or only the
equivalent year(s) of a
given month or year respectively. Instead of two awkward operations by
consecutively entering
the first and the last day in order to obtain the range required you simply
press <ENTER> at
the day-menu (without entering a day) or/and at the month (*w/o month* is
always the first
choice in the month-menu) and you get the equivalent in months or years on
the right side.

Implausible input of dates is checked and the program gives you a short
message why your
input did not make any sense, e.g. entering Sivish-years into the Mali
(Turkish Financial)
calendar. Error checking also works on the output side, e.g. Christian
dates before 622 AD
cannot be converted into Islamic dates as no <BEFORE-HIJRA>- chronology exists.

Special input rules work for the French Revolution Era (Roman numbers
-small or caps - for the
years because only those have been used in historical documents) and for
the Jalali- and
Yezdegerd-eras when days were not numbered but identified by name. In order
not to confuse
you with the need to spell correctly the name of a given day the menu opens
in these cases with
prefigured day captions.

The program also ckecks if the date input confirms to the rules governing
Epagomena (in the
Coptic and Armenian calendars) or Ve-Adar in the Jewish calendar and it
does not accept 29
February in normal years, or similar nonsense.

After getting your conversion you could press <ENTER> to make one more
conversion or
<ESCAPE> to quit.

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--- part 2 ---

Some very basic comments to the individual calendars (a thorough
explanation would need a
book!):
--1. The Christian calendar as in the first menu item is based on Julian
dates until the Gregorian
calendar reform and later on the reformed dates. In case you need Julian
dates even for a
period after the reform a separate purely Julian menu item is included at
the end of the list.
Always bear in mind though that the Gregorian reform was applied from its
start only in Catholic
states and only later elsewhere (e.g. in England in the 18th century).
Still more confusion can
arise from different New Year dates, e.g. in some countries the new year
would begin on
December 25, resulting in different years for dates of the same month of
December! The
division between BC- and AD-dates runs between 1 BC and 1 AD;
historiography does not know
a year 0!
--2. The Islamic Lunar Calendar is based on the schematic rules applied in
historiography (e.g.
Encyclopaedia of Islam, Wuestenfeld tables etc.) with two options on the
output side : Era
beginning 16 July 622 (most accepted date) or 15 July 622. The difference
is NOT consistently
one day only (there would not have been any need for two options then) as
according to the
sources consulted the exact sequence of intercalary Islamic years depends
on the choice of the
era (first day). Anyhow, everybody aware a bit of the problems of the
Islamic Lunar calendar
knows that a conversion based on arithmetic or even on astronomic data has
a margin of error
of one day (possibly even more). (Reasons: Actual sighting of the moon in
different regions by
different people; overlapping of days due to the beginning of the new
Islamic day at sunset vs.
midnight in modern chronology). Therefore, the day of the week is always
given as a convenient
method of control.
--3. The Islamic Solar Calendar (ruled other than the lunar calendar by
purely astronomical
criteria conforming to the traditional Shiite preference for calendar
calculation based on
astronomical data) as used in Iran is relatively new (albeit based on the
Hijra-date) as until the
end of the Qajar-dynasty other calendars were in use beside the Lunar
calendar; so dates until
1304 After Hijra in solar years are rejected.
--4. The Jalali-calendar rules have never been without some dispute. I
follow Taqizadeh's
findings in choosing the most probable solution.
--5. The Turkish financial calendar (also known as the Mali- or
Rumi-calendar) was in use in the
Ottoman empire during its later period, mostly along with the lunar Hijra-
calendar. It has
rather peculiar rules for aligning the numbering of (longer) solar with
(shorter) lunar years by
regularly dropping entire years (Sivish-years) apart from other
peculiarities and errors were
therefore inevitable. Although the Computus-program applies correct
conversion rules it is,
therefore, wise to counterckeck by comparing the Mali-dates with the often
similtaneously
given Lunar calendar dates taking into account the day of the week.
--6. The Armenians know so-called lesser and greater eras; I applied the
greater era which for
historiography seems to be the more commonly applied calendar.
--7. The Jewish calendar (era: creation of the world) has only been in use
since the Middle
Ages; nevertheless any earlier date input is accepted (I could simply not
resist giving Christian
BC-equivalents to dates going back to the creation of the world according
to Jewish belief!).
--8. To know the date of Easter-Sunday it is only needed to enter the year.
The result is
computed according to the different methods applied before and after the
Gregorian calendar
reform.

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01h54m52s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:20:14 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:26:39PM -0500, Theodore Heise wrote:
> > Message-Ids of previous messages to which the message is replying.
> > It's used for threading.
>
> Strictly speaking, In-Reply-To: alone is sufficient for
> threading.  In fact, In-Reply-To: can /always/ be generated for
> replies, while there are circumstances under which References:
> generation is actually discouraged by RFC 2822.

Is that really RFC 2822, or just the original RFC 822?

Is there really a standard way to generate an "In-Reply-To:"
header?

> If an MUA /requires/ References: to do threading, it's
> arguably broken.

Do you know one one MUA that will *not* use References: to do
threading. I assume they can all use In-Repy-To:, but surely
if they can not use References: they are equally broken? What
if they get messages with no In-Reply-To, and only References,
then they will be unable to thread them?

Can you give a WWW reference for that opinion? I was always of
the opposite view, that most clients would find the
In-Reply-To: syntax much harder to parse than References: -
that is the standard USENET way of threading I admit.

Don't thay basically contain the same info - except the
"In-Reply-To:" can have an extra phrase or two - like a date?

Surely the References method is the absolute minimum required?

In-Reply-To and References look to be so similar in content
and function I wonder why they both exist - could be a relic
of a USENET/SMTP war in times past?

In any case I just checked POST/LX and both References: and
In-Reply-To: are supported, in the same way. The Message-ID
gets put into both. Not sure about the threading side though.

So, as we are on e-mail here, maybe that is what we should
use.

Many thanks for your post Adrian! I had never even heard of
In-Reply-To!!!

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I have a 5 MB doublespeed 200LX which is used 100% of the time with a Sandisk
48 MB compact flash card.  I use Times2Tech/Thaddeus NiMH batteries and get
around 8-10 hours use before the voltage drops below 2.40 V, at which point I
usually recharge.  Note that this is still above the voltage where the "MAIN
BATTERY LOW" warning comes on.  For me, 8-10 hours is long enough to still be
convenient, but not so long that I worry about having the batteries fail.

If I turn off the battery warnings with the doublespeed driver and let them
drain to about 2.12 V, I can get 18-20 hours use.  Although this is obviously
risky, I haven't had problems with crashes or bad flash card writes in my
system.  I use Buddy to turn off the serial port; don't know how much power
this saves.

Cheers.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "evan koblentz" <evan947@yahoo.com>
To: "Barry" <barry@fbtc.net>; "evan koblentz"
<evan947@YAHOO.COM>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


>
>  Barry, thanks for the T-S explanation.  I thought I knew
there was a catch to it but I wasn't sure.  Obviously I didn't
realize it needs its own television!
> The Sharp/Radio Shack (Tandy) machine you refer to is well
explained at http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml.
It's circa 1982.  As you noted, it needed programming; to quote
from the site linked above, "The Sharp PC-1500 is an 8-bit
pocket computer introduced in 1982. It is capable of running
programs written in BASIC or can be used as a calculator. It can
also be programmed in LH-5801 machine code. The Tandy TRS-80
PC-2 (Radio Shack) is the same machine with a different keyboard
layout."

That's not actually the computer I was referring to.  I was
thinking of the PC-1 (I don't remember the Sharp model number)
that came out quite a bit earlier than the PC-2.  It was also a
much less powerful machine than the PC-2.

Later the PC-3 was an upgraded PC-1.  There were no upgrades to
the PC-2, but it was pretty expandible anyway.

The PC-1 was much smaller and lighter than the PC-2.  It only
came with 1k ram.

This is a chronology of early calculators which includes both of
these.  No pictures unfortunately.  But it might be the answer
to the earliest PDA.
http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/

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My mistake.  I checked the site you reference and a few others; it's also 1980, most sites claim.  Which makes it a tie with the HP-41C.
I'll check VERY carefully with media contacts at HP and Sharp, to find out when each first hit the drawing board, when each was announced to the press/public, and when each actually went for sale.  I'm pretty excited to find out the truth!

  Barry <barry@fbtc.net> wrote: ----- Original Message -----
From: "evan koblentz"
To: "Barry" ; "evan koblentz"
;
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


>
> Barry, thanks for the T-S explanation. I thought I knew
there was a catch to it but I wasn't sure. Obviously I didn't
realize it needs its own television!
> The Sharp/Radio Shack (Tandy) machine you refer to is well
explained at http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml.
It's circa 1982. As you noted, it needed programming; to quote
from the site linked above, "The Sharp PC-1500 is an 8-bit
pocket computer introduced in 1982. It is capable of running
programs written in BASIC or can be used as a calculator. It can
also be programmed in LH-5801 machine code. The Tandy TRS-80
PC-2 (Radio Shack) is the same machine with a different keyboard
layout."

That's not actually the computer I was referring to. I was
thinking of the PC-1 (I don't remember the Sharp model number)
that came out quite a bit earlier than the PC-2. It was also a
much less powerful machine than the PC-2.

Later the PC-3 was an upgraded PC-1. There were no upgrades to
the PC-2, but it was pretty expandible anyway.

The PC-1 was much smaller and lighter than the PC-2. It only
came with 1k ram.

This is a chronology of early calculators which includes both of
these. No pictures unfortunately. But it might be the answer
to the earliest PDA.
http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/

Barry




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<P>My mistake.&nbsp; I checked the site you reference and a few others; it's also 1980, most sites claim.&nbsp; Which makes it a tie with the HP-41C.
<P>I'll check VERY carefully with media contacts at HP and Sharp, to find out when each first hit the drawing board, when each was announced to the press/public, and when each actually went for sale.&nbsp; I'm pretty excited to find out the truth!
<P>&nbsp;
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>Barry &lt;barry@fbtc.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "evan koblentz" <EVAN947@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: "Barry" <BARRY@FBTC.NET>; "evan koblentz"<BR><EVAN947@YAHOO.COM>;
<HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU><BR>Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:24 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Barry, thanks for the T-S explanation. I thought I knew<BR>there was a catch to it but I wasn't sure.
Obviously I didn't<BR>realize it needs its own television!<BR>&gt; The Sharp/Radio Shack (Tandy) machine you refer to is well<BR>explained at http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml.<BR>It's circa 1982. As you noted, it needed programming; to
quote<BR>from the site linked above, "The Sharp PC-1500 is an 8-bit<BR>pocket computer introduced in 1982. It is capable of running<BR>programs written in BASIC or can be used as a calculator. It can<BR>also be programmed in LH-5801 machine code. The
Tandy TRS-80<BR>PC-2 (Radio Shack)
is the same machine with a different keyboard<BR>layout."<BR><BR>That's not actually the computer I was referring to. I was<BR>thinking of the PC-1 (I don't remember the Sharp model number)<BR>that came out quite a bit earlier than the PC-2. It was also
a<BR>much less powerful machine than the PC-2.<BR><BR>Later the PC-3 was an upgraded PC-1. There were no upgrades to<BR>the PC-2, but it was pretty expandible anyway.<BR><BR>The PC-1 was much smaller and lighter than the PC-2. It only<BR>came with 1k
ram.<BR><BR>This is a chronology of early calculators which includes both of<BR>these. No pictures unfortunately. But it might be the answer<BR>to the earliest
PDA.<BR>http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/<BR><BR>Barry<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:32:17 -0500
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Here's some information on the PC-1.

http://pocket.free.fr/index.html

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Hallo all,

I took a look at the headers of several e-mails.

The References-option is used by MS OL and Eudora(?).

The following programs use In-Reply-To:
ELM
Calypso
Pine
Becky!
Pegasus

Mutt uses both forms.


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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, A Meshar wrote:

> References: <200204150012.g3F0CTx09990@ez0.ezlink.com>
>             <20020415064143.59940D2102@deborah.paradise.net.nz>
>             <E16x0US-0002vX-00@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

> Not clear what you mean by "reference"? Reference to what?

Message-Ids of previous messages to which the message is replying.
It's used for threading.

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If you are talking about the ZX80/81 computers as we called them in the UK
then they certainly are not handhelds. We had one in the student flat I was
in at the time.

Three of the four of us bought Casio FX-602P programmable calculators in that
time frame - smaller and lighter (fit in a pocket) than the HP 41 which was
out of reach pricewise for poor UK students. I still have my 602P and its
tape interface and all documentation including some third party programming
guides. The calculator was not as comprehensive as the 41 but could save
programs to tape and play music through a tape recorder.  I still have a
number of programs stored to tape somewhere - doubt that they are still
readable though. There was also a printer although I never bought one. The
calculator was capable of synthetic programming. A quick web search shows the
following summary and picture for the curious:

http://ernst.mulder.com/calculators/casio-fx602p-body.html

The author lists a number of other computers/calculators for consideration.

GaryS


On Monday 15 April 2002 08:08 pm, Barry wrote:
> Are you talking about the Timex Sinclair?  That was a very small
> computer that had to be attatched to a TV set to work.  And if I
> remember right it had a fairly large power brick.  There was
> nothing portable about it.  I don't think it could be called a
> PDA.
>
> But you really didn't say what you were referring to.  I'm
> assuming Timex Sinclair because you replied to a message about
> them.
>
> Sharp and Radio Shack both sold a pocket computer.  It was the
> same computer, made by Sharp but Radio Shack had their name on
> the ones they sold.
>
> It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard
> and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
> drawn to.  It was only one text line high by about 24 characters
> wide.  I don't remember how many pixels it had.
>
> It had a not too powerful version of Basic but it was good
> enough to be pretty useful in a device like this.  I'm not sure
> but it might be thought of as a PDA.
>
> Later models (the PC4 or 5, I forget which) had a built in
> address book as well.  But the PC1 and PC3 was just Basic and a
> calculator and you had to write your own program for the PDA.  I
> think the first ones had 1k and later ones had 1.5k and then 3k.
>
> Barry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "evan koblentz" <evan947@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?
>
> >  Wow!  I'd heard of this but didn't investigate it because,
>
> for some wacky reason, I thought it was just a "luggable" like
> to Osborne, Kaypro, Compaq, etc. - but just now I did a cursory
> Yahoo search and it seems to fit the bill.  Anyone out there
> familiar with what this device did beside be a calculator?  I
> see it has alphanumeric functions/keyboard of sorts - did it
> actually come with rudimentary applications or did it have to be
> programmed?  The answer to that question is the difference
> between being more like the HP-41C (1979, sci. calc. but the
> first to have alphanumeric ability) and the Psion Organiser 1
> (1983/4, first marketed/packaged with organizer software.)
>
> > Speaking of which.... hello, everyone out there in listworld!
>
> Martin Bergvill tells me that I've sparked some discussion.  I
> see a couple of replies in my email inbox, but I suspect I
> missed some, because I just joined your wonderful list ten
> minutes ago.  Some background: I'm a reporter at eWeek magazine
> (the Ziff-Davis publication formerly called PC Week), and in my
> personal/non-work time, I'm writing a book about the history of
> mobile computing, from the abacus to the PDA.  (At eWeek my beat
> is storage - i.e. EMC Corp., etc.)
>
> > Any help list people can provide will definitely be
>
> acknowledged in the book, which I hope to complete in the next
> nine months or so.
>
> > Thanks all,
> > Evan Koblentz, Boston, Mass., USA
> > PS - Could someone update me on what I missed in this
>
> discussion?
>
> >   Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@compuserve.com> wrote: Would the
>
> Timex/Sinclair qualify?
>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:57:49PM +1200, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:20:14 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote:
> > Strictly speaking, In-Reply-To: alone is sufficient for
> > threading.  In fact, In-Reply-To: can /always/ be generated for
> > replies, while there are circumstances under which References:
> > generation is actually discouraged by RFC 2822.
>
> Is that really RFC 2822, or just the original RFC 822?

RFC 822 only defines the general format of those headers;
RFC 2822 also tells you how to construct them.

> Is there really a standard way to generate an "In-Reply-To:"
> header?

Yes, it's simply the list of Message-IDs of all the parent
messages.  Note the plural, though -- a reply can in theory
be to several messages at once.  (Multiple-parent replies is,
in fact, the circumstance I alluded to under which RFC 2822
specifically /discourages/ the construction of References:.)

References, on the other hand, is effectively the contents of
each parent message's References, plus the contents of this
message's In-Reply-To.  Late entries in long-lasting threads
can therefore have /huge/ References: headers, and there's
no standard algorithm for trimming it.

To use a data structure analogy, In-Reply-To: is equivalent to
a node's parent links in a directed graph, which References:
is the entire parent graph up to the root.

> > If an MUA /requires/ References: to do threading, it's
> > arguably broken.
>
> Do you know one one MUA that will *not* use References: to do
> threading. I assume they can all use In-Repy-To:, but surely
> if they can not use References: they are equally broken?

You misunderstood.  If an MUA /requires/ References: to thread
(ie. it refuses to thread without it because (presumably) it
relies exclusively on it) it's broken.  Proper threading only
requires that each message have a correct In-Reply-To header.

> What if they get messages with no In-Reply-To, and only References,
> then they will be unable to thread them?

Since References: encompasses In-Reply-To:, you should still
be able to thread.  It's just a lot more efficient with
In-Reply-To:, since you don't have extraneous info confusing
your threading algorithm.

Now that you mention it, if a message contains References:
but no In-Reply-To:, the sender's MUA is arguably broken.  8-)

> Can you give a WWW reference for that opinion? I was always of
> the opposite view, that most clients would find the
> In-Reply-To: syntax much harder to parse than References: -
> that is the standard USENET way of threading I admit.
>
> Don't thay basically contain the same info - except the
> "In-Reply-To:" can have an extra phrase or two - like a date?

No, both headers can only contain Message-IDs, so parsing
requires the same level of effort.

> Surely the References method is the absolute minimum required?

Nope, In-Reply-To.  You can go from it to References trivially;
the reverse is much much harder.

> In-Reply-To and References look to be so similar in content
> and function I wonder why they both exist - could be a relic
> of a USENET/SMTP war in times past?

Beats me; I never really paid attention.  8-)

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Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:05:06 +1200 (NZT)

01h04m30s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:00:36 +0800, Kheehua Hung wrote:

> Tony, sometimes a binary file is bigger than 1.44 MB. Then
> I would use a utility to break it up. Normally this utility
> use the copy command with /b switch. One such utility is
> Jones file splitter but it is not for dos.

Ahha! Thanks Kheehua! I forgot about /b.
Thanks to Larry and Barry too!
So, as the original question used copy w/o the /b then the
"type" method was at least equivalent. Whew! :)

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03h04m10s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:16:28 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote:

> Nope.  Both "cat" and "join" behave in the same manner for
> both text and binary files -- Unix makes no distinction
> between the two.

Thanks Adrian.

BTW I just notice your message has an "In-Reply-To:" referriing
back to my message, and also a "References:" which actually
refers back to the previous message - the one I replied to.
Do these 2 headers work together like this? Indeed a threader
that just looks at "References:" is indeed broke! :) If there
is an "In-Reply-To:" then that should take priority - is this
a good general rule?

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 01:10:41PM +0800, Adrian Ho wrote
(under the influence of an empty stomach, thereby proving
that low blood sugar is a major hindrance to clarity of mind):
> Nope, In-Reply-To.  You can go from it to References trivially;
> the reverse is much much harder.

You could, of course, simply take the last Message-ID in
References: and call it In-Reply-To:.  You'd even be right
most of the time.  8-)

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:30:57PM +1200, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> BTW I just notice your message has an "In-Reply-To:" referriing
> back to my message, and also a "References:" which actually
> refers back to the previous message - the one I replied to.
> Do these 2 headers work together like this?

Yup.

> Indeed a threader
> that just looks at "References:" is indeed broke! :) If there
> is an "In-Reply-To:" then that should take priority - is this
> a good general rule?

Yup.  For proper threading, In-Reply-To: is sufficient --
References: just adds unnecessary noise.

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35m11s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:10:41 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote:

> RFC 822 only defines the general format of those headers;
> RFC 2822 also tells you how to construct them.

I'd better read it :)

> To use a data structure analogy, In-Reply-To: is equivalent to
> a node's parent links in a directed graph, which References:
> is the entire parent graph up to the root.

Thanks!

> You misunderstood.  If an MUA /requires/ References: to thread
> (ie. it refuses to thread without it because (presumably) it
> relies exclusively on it) it's broken.  Proper threading only
> requires that each message have a correct In-Reply-To header.

Understood, now <G>

> Now that you mention it, if a message contains References:
> but no In-Reply-To:, the sender's MUA is arguably broken.  8-)

<G>. Ahha, that's waht happens on USENET.

> No, both headers can only contain Message-IDs, so parsing
> requires the same level of effort.

Here is the In-Reply-To: from your MUA <G>

In-Reply-To:  <20020416035455.93987D1E4D@deborah.paradise.net.nz>; from
              th@PARADISE.NET.NZ on Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:57:49PM +1200

I agree the ID can be plucked out pretty easily, but it is not
pure ID. I suppose a "good" MUA will show the non-ID part on
screen as it may be more human-readable.

> > Surely the References method is the absolute minimum required?
>
> Nope, In-Reply-To.  You can go from it to References trivially;
> the reverse is much much harder.

Oh, I prefer the In-Reply-To then. Hehe, I thought the
References was like the In-Reply-To actually is <G>

Thanks for raising this.

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In-Reply-To:  <20020416055756.PGOO27009.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@paradise.net.nz>;
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:00:51PM +1200, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Here is the In-Reply-To: from your MUA <G>
>
> In-Reply-To:  <20020416035455.93987D1E4D@deborah.paradise.net.nz>; from
>               th@PARADISE.NET.NZ on Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:57:49PM +1200

<shriek> And all this time, I believed the mutt author when
he said that "all MUAs suck; this one sucks less"!

Thks for pointing it out, Tony!  Now to go beat someone around
the head with a 2x4.  8-)

Seriously though, the form you quoted above can be (very)
generously described as "obsolete", though some might argue
that it's still wrong even with a liberal interpretation of
obsolete specs (the semicolon is the specific "offender" here).

Anyway, this is indeed getting far afield of HPLX-L.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:54:13 +1000
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Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
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Well - maybe - but I have taken note of the power drain, and I cannot see
that it is draining my main batteries any faster than normal.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwann ABALEA" <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: Heed the low bty indicator or lose *ALL* data, even on flash!


> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Geoff wrote:
>
> > Trouble is - whenever I power off the 200lx and then power on again I
keep
> > getting the message "Card Battery low - press esc"
> >
> > What does this mean ?  There is no place I can see to insert a battery
in a
> > CF card.  Also - I have been using it now for several weeks, and except
for
> > this error message it looks perfectly normal.
>
> I have the same behaviour with my 32M CF card. If I'm right, the "Card
> Battery Low" message is displayed because the card draws more current that
> what is usually allowed.
> I tested a Kodak 64M CF card last summer, and it worked perfectly, without
> any annoying message...
>
> --
> Erwann ABALEA <erwann@abalea.com> - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5
> -----
> D'abord, on est sur le web, pas sur ce usenet dont on nous rabbache les
> oreilles et qui n'est qu'une abstraction.
> -+- JP in http://neuneu.ctw.cc - Neuneu en abstract mode -+-
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:12:51 +0200
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hi Tony,

may I switch this thread to the Roboweb list, maybe thats the right=20
place for it.

Tony Hutchins schrieb =FCber Re: PDU Problem:

> > There is another little thing now:
> > The SMS on the phone is not deleted, although the program
> > says it is.
>=20
> Was this an SMS you wrote, or one received?
it was a received SMS
> Is it stored on the phone or in the SIM card?
I think it was on the SIM Card but I am not sure.
> Do you use the `Delstored' or `Retstored' options?
I use the default setting.
> When you write "the program says it is" what do you mean?
there is a message on the screen that the message is retrieved and=20
deleted on the phone.
>=20
> The display does flash by pretty quickly and it is not easy to
> tell what the program says <G>. Only if you have quite a few
> messages, or a large outbox, do you get the chance to see what
> is happening.
it was long enough to read the message.
>=20
> > But in fact, it is still on the phone and downloaded
> > with each session again. All arrows of my SMS folders are
> > switched on.
>=20
> How many folders do you have? This could be important. Maybe
> one of then has "H" instead of downarrow?
only one folder - no H.
>=20
> I see PDU.SCR says it was tested with a
>=20
> ; Motorola: L7089
>=20
> is that the same as your phone?
I do not know. There is no type written on my phone. On the=20
homepage of Motorola I found the phone and there it is called
Timeport 260.
It has GPRS (not working with Post/Lx) and is a Tri-Band Handy.
A picture you can find here:
http://www.a1net.at/modem_settings/windows_98_v1.1.pdf

>=20
> When PDU.SCR deletes a message it sends a delete command and if
> it gets an "OK" back then, as far as PDU.SCR knows, the
> message was deleted. If that is what is happening then there
> is nothing I can do, sorry. If the command to delete was wrong
> then the phone should not send an "OK".

I agree!
>=20
> But, if you do get POSTPDU working fine with your Timeport
> then I can add it to the list of phones it has been tested
> with. That would be great!

I think you can.=20
Since I solved the problem with the initialization, it works fine.
The problem with SMS not deleted did not appear again.
Maybe also solved ....

Sending messages works fine also!

thank you very much again for your program and support!

cheers,
Werner

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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:58:06 +0200
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Dear All,

>Thomas Rundel said:
>Unfortunately, this bluetooth adapter is not quite what we want
>for 200LX. A pair of these adapters can be used to replace serial
>cable connection, but the adapters won't talk with anything else
>than themselves, so they can't be used to talk to a GSM phone
>or a printer, for example. At least that's what I read in a German
>computer mag (c't) this weekend.

Maybe not. The two-page PDF file on Lintech hompage contains this text:

" Lintech - Bluetooth RS232 Adapter

In place of conventional RS232 cable connections, the new RS232 modules
from LinTech feature wireless connections based on Bluetooth technology.
The Bluetooth RS232 module is optimized for a variety of solutions and
can be flexibly integrated into existing system environments. Thanks to
the achievable transmission rates, there is virtually no limit to the
kind of data which can be sent. Wireless connections can be established
for example from PC to peripherals such as modems, printers, measuring
devices, digital cameras, etc. The Bluetooth Standard used for wireless
transmission guarantees both high transmission rates and trouble-free
data exchange.

The RS232 Adapter is used in any application using an serial cable. It
works with other Bluetooth devices support the Bluetooth serial port
profile or with another RS232 Adapter based on the GAP for special
environments with an high security standard. Bluetooth Laptop connected
wireless to other devices using Bluetooth serial port profile (using our
part nb. 1406)

Wireless Online with replacement of serial cable (using our
part nb.1407)

The RS232 Adapter from LinTech is the world`s first Bluetooth product
that Plug and Play enables cable replacement in different envirements. No
software installation is needed, it works inde-pendent of operating
system.

Features
- Plug-In-Design, 5 V DC external Power supply
- Plug-and-Play installation
- Wireless V.24/RS232 connection to PC, modem or other equipment with
serial connection
- Max. Range 100 m in the open air
- Supported baudrate max. 115 kBit/s with autodetection
- No configuration, independent of operating system
- Built-in link control
- Avoidance of interference thanks to spread-spectrum
transmission/frequency hopping in the 2.402 GHz to 2.480 GHz ISM band
- Flash technology - firmeware update via serial PC interface
- Adaptive error protection: forward error correction, automatic
retransmission query


Specification
Construction: ABS cover transparent blue
Dimensions 110x43x20 mm Weight: 150 grams
Supported Bluetooth Profiles: Generic Access Profile , Serial Port
Profile
Bluetooth radio: class 1
Serial interface: RS-232 DSUB-9 connector
External power adapter with DC Jack 1,3 mm, power supply 5V DC/ 500mA,
current consumption 2W
Operating temperature +5- +55=B0C
Storage temperature -25 - +70=B0C

Bluetooth Qualification according to Bluetooth specification 1.1 and CE
0681
Deliverables:
Order number 1406 Bluetooth RS232 Adapter (DCE, Serial Port Profile)
Box ships with:
- Bluetooth RS232 Adapter with standard male RS-232 DSUB-9 connector
- Power Adapter
- User manual
- CD with additional configuration utilities for Win2000 / WinNT4 /
Win98/ME for non Plug-and Play environments

Order number 1407
Box with two Bluetooth RS232 Adapters ( DCE/DTE, Cable replacement). Box
ships with:
- Bluetooth RS232 Adapter with standard male RS-232 DSUB-9 connector
- Bluetooth RS232 Adapter with standard female RS-232 DSUB-9 connector
- Power Adapter
- User manual
- CD with additional configuration utilities for Wind2000 / WinNT4.0 /
Win98/ME for non Plug-and Play environments


LinTech GmbH Kommunikationstechnologien
Friedrich-Engels-Stra=DFe 35 D-13156 Berlin
Phone +49 30 54 947 260  Fax +49 30 54 947 244
eMail lintech@lintech.de <www.lintech.de>

Bluetooth and the Bluetooth logos are trademarks owned by Bluetooth SIG,
Inc., U.S.A. and licensed to Lintech GmbH, Berlin, Germany."


Sincerely: Tamas Feher

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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:24:58 +0200
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----- Original Message -----
> Date:    Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:24:46 -0700
> From:    evan koblentz <evan947@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?
>
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>
>
>  Barry, thanks for the T-S explanation.  I thought I knew there was a
catch to it but I wasn't sure.  Obviously I didn't realize it needs its
own television!
> The Sharp/Radio Shack (Tandy) machine you refer to is well explained at
http://myweb.worldnet.net/~repaire/pc1500.shtml.  It's circa 1982.  As you
noted, it needed programming; to quote from the site linked above, "The
Sharp PC-1500 is an 8-bit pocket computer introduced in 1982. It is
capable of running programs written in BASIC or can be used as a
calculator. It can also be programmed in LH-5801 machine code. The Tandy
TRS-80 PC-2 (Radio Shack) is the same machine with a different keyboard
layout."
>
>   Barry <barry@fbtc.net> wrote: Are you talking about the Timex
Sinclair? That was a very small
> computer that had to be attatched to a TV set to work. And if I
> remember right it had a fairly large power brick. There was
> nothing portable about it. I don't think it could be called a
> PDA.
>
> But you really didn't say what you were referring to. I'm
> assuming Timex Sinclair because you replied to a message about
> them.
>
> Sharp and Radio Shack both sold a pocket computer. It was the
> same computer, made by Sharp but Radio Shack had their name on
> the ones they sold.
>
> It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard
> and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
> drawn to. It was only one text line high by about 24 characters
> wide. I don't remember how many pixels it had.
>
> It had a not too powerful version of Basic but it was good
> enough to be pretty useful in a device like this. I'm not sure
> but it might be thought of as a PDA.
>
> Later models (the PC4 or 5, I forget which) had a built in
> address book as well. But the PC1 and PC3 was just Basic and a
> calculator and you had to write your own program for the PDA. I
> think the first ones had 1k and later ones had 1.5k and then 3k.
>
> Barry
>
>
As the person who originally (on this thread) called the HP-41 a PDA, I'll
define my terms:

Must allow direct alpha keyboard input
Must allow direct alpha display
(both of these rule out the TI-59, as well as the earlier HP-65/95,
HP-67/97, which could print, but not display alphabetic characters)
Must allow searching on text strings (via built-in functions or
programming)
Must support real-time clock/alarms.

The HP-41C required the Time Module to meet all these requirements; the
Extended Functions/Memory module supplemented the text-manipulation
capabilities, but synthetic programming was the first technique which made
it possible. The HP-41CX had both these modules, as well as the full 319 x
7-byte data/program registers (6KB) of memory, internally, up from the
base '41C 63 registers.

The HP-41 was the first hand-held that HP called a "computer" (sample ad:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/adverts/41nasaad.jpg ), and was used by NASA on
early shuttle missions (not the first HP in space - the HP-65 was used as
a back-up for docking maneuvers on Apollo-Soyuz missions). Released in
1979, I'd argue it was truly the first hand-held computer (mine is s/n
1930A00163). I maxed that out, then upgraded to the HP-41CX when it
shipped (1982?) and used that for years, until the '48SX with 128K
(expandable to 384K) came out in 1990. With the HP-IL peripherals
(including printer and tape drive) the '41 was an extremely capable
machine. I wrote a tape operating system for mine, as well as appointment
and address-management routines. There was even an HP-IL composite video
adapter available.

Between PPC Journals, CHHU Journals, and a number of books (Wickes,
Mier-Jedrzejowicz, Jarett, Dodlin), there was a considerable library on
the '41. Including the manuals, PPC & CHHU Journals, and assorted books, I
probably have 4-5 feet of HP-41 reference materials (rivalling some
contemporary mainframe reference libraries).

Jon (ex-PPC, ex-CHHU)

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
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Barry wrote:
> It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard
> and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
> drawn to.  It was only one text line high by about 24 characters
> wide.

That will be the same 1401 i was referring to. Internally it has 80
characters per line that scroll horizontally. Handy for long sums, you can
go back and check for typing errors while with normal pocket calculators
you will have to do it twice to avoid them.

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> But, POST/LX does. A Message-ID always goes out with each
> message. And the user just needs to add a "References" header
> to the template
> POST/LX is the same as Netscape - it will only
> look in the current folder for referenced e-mail. The magic
> key is Alt+T and you get the chance to search for the
> Parent/Child/Sibling.

Well hooray for the LX and decent programming. One correspondent - don't
remember who or what program - took issue with my request for references
some time ago stating that on the HP he can't do it. Glad to read this is
not necessarily the case.

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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> And the HP-41C, while on the surface it's just a
> scientific/programmable calculator, was actually the first to have
> alphanumeric capability

If you are content with that - does anyone remember when the BASIC
programmable Sharp 1401 (which I still use, but no longer for largeish
programs as I used to) came out? A friend of mine borrowed it several times
and filled all the program memory with written cheats and reminders for the
exams he had to sit.

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Hi,

I had a Casio scientific calculator which looked like
the HP 200lx's little brother. Same clamshell design
and also grey. I cannot remember the exact model(
maybe Fx 780?), but it had a alphanumeric keyboard
(qwerty if am not mistaken) and could be programmed in
Basic. It had 16K Ram memory expandable to 32K I
believe. It must have been built in the mid 80's
because I bought in 1989 and it was already an old
model. Somebody stole when I left it in the University
library(sh***t). It had some PDA-like features.It was
really nice and powerful. In fact it was sold as Casio
(FX 780) Personal Computer ( maybe not the exact
name). Also some of my friends had similar casio
calculators, without the scientific functions which
were branded as personal assistants.

Maybe Casio were the first?

Cheers,


Iqigo

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Le Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:57:49 +1200
Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> a icrit:

> In-Reply-To and References look to be so similar in content
> and function I wonder why they both exist - could be a relic
> of a USENET/SMTP war in times past?

I don't remember about the "In-Reply-To" origin, but "References" was
without any doubt a Usenet thing. It's goal was to permits to
reconstruct threads even if one intermediate message was not yet
received by the NNTP server.

Most of the newsreaders reconstuct threads, including a "blank message"
at the place of the missing message.
Very few email-only clients have this feature.


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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:45:06 -0500
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Adrian Ho writes:

> > Is there really a standard way to generate an "In-Reply-To:"
> > header?
>
> Yes, it's simply the list of Message-IDs of all the parent
> messages.  Note the plural, though -- a reply can in theory
> be to several messages at once.

How would a message that references multiple parents be represented
in a thread diagram?  I don't know of specific mail readers that show
threads, I'm thinking of the schematics used by newsreaders such as
slrn or tin.

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Geoff wrote:

> Trouble is - whenever I power off the 200lx and then power on again I =
keep
> getting the message "Card Battery low - press esc"
>
> What does this mean ?

The card battery low warning is triggered by one PCMCIA pin
being driven high or low (can't remember). At the time,
the palmtop was released, the PCMCIA specification was in a
pre-release state. This might explain, why that pin was only
used as battery low signal for battery powered SRAM cards then.

But today some cards and CF adapters seem to have this pin
driven "wrong" in terms of the palmtop BIOS. The most popular
card is the Accton ethernet card.

If you want to get rid of the warning, one way is to install
LXPROMIN (or LXPRO), which disables the warning for years
already. Download from

http://peichl.hplx.net/lxpro.zip

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hello tim

my son is adamant about using his
hplx320 with a 32MB compact flash
to which he backs up
doesn't even connect 2 the desktop
4 yrs now ! he says :
 1. the 320 lx has touch screen which the 200 shd have had too
 2. after using XL on his desktop..can't get back to Lotus123..uses PocketXL
 3. after using Word97 can't get back to Memo..uses PocketWord
 4. doesn't browse/email from the lx320..drains power too fast
 5. regulary forgets to recharge batteries..and like lx200 users..lx320 runs
for days
 6. looks great in complete dark..with backlight on..lx200 shd hv had it
built in too
 7. stylus is better than mouse,touchpad,mousestik,trackball,keyboard..goes
EXACTLY to the
     point where he wants the cursor..instead of the feeling of trying to
paraglide to the point :-)
 8. is almost as heavy..a bit more..so almost
 9. has built in fax,browser,email..good in case of an emergency
10. supports 56K pcmcia modem card
11. can be safely lost..and then found..like the lx200 :-D..its silly
compared to todays 'powerful'
      PDAs..that's what everyone thinks..
12. won't go in for the lx620/680 color ones..no better..much less battery
life..no optional
      back lighting..its compulsorily bright..better on long time..than
better color short time !

..pk

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Le Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:36:05 +0200
Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG> a icrit:

> Is the "Reply-To" header also recognized ?

Oops !

Typed too fast....

My question was about the "In-Reply-To" header, of course.
I hope you have corrected yourself.. ;-)


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LEONG Ka Tai writes:
> I am based in Hong Kong. My ISP is pacific.net which is based
> in both Hong Kong and Singapore. But the iPASS and GRIC
> services are international.

I use netvision (in Israel) as my ISP and also use GRIC when travelling. I have
used it successfully in Thailand and Australia with LXTCP and PNR as
described.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Barrett" <jonzann@NETZERO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: World's first handheld computer?


> As the person who originally (on this thread) called the HP-41
a PDA, I'll
> define my terms:
>
> Must allow direct alpha keyboard input
> Must allow direct alpha display
> (both of these rule out the TI-59, as well as the earlier
HP-65/95,
> HP-67/97, which could print, but not display alphabetic
characters)
> Must allow searching on text strings (via built-in functions
or
> programming)
> Must support real-time clock/alarms.
>
> The HP-41C required the Time Module to meet all these
requirements; the
> Extended Functions/Memory module supplemented the
text-manipulation
> capabilities, but synthetic programming was the first
technique which made
> it possible. The HP-41CX had both these modules, as well as
the full 319 x
> 7-byte data/program registers (6KB) of memory, internally, up
from the
> base '41C 63 registers.
>
> The HP-41 was the first hand-held that HP called a "computer"
(sample ad:
> http://www.hpmuseum.org/adverts/41nasaad.jpg ), and was used
by NASA on
> early shuttle missions (not the first HP in space - the HP-65
was used as
> a back-up for docking maneuvers on Apollo-Soyuz missions).
Released in
> 1979, I'd argue it was truly the first hand-held computer
(mine is s/n
> 1930A00163). I maxed that out, then upgraded to the HP-41CX
when it
> shipped (1982?) and used that for years, until the '48SX with
128K
> (expandable to 384K) came out in 1990. With the HP-IL
peripherals
> (including printer and tape drive) the '41 was an extremely
capable
> machine. I wrote a tape operating system for mine, as well as
appointment
> and address-management routines. There was even an HP-IL
composite video
> adapter available.
>
> Between PPC Journals, CHHU Journals, and a number of books
(Wickes,
> Mier-Jedrzejowicz, Jarett, Dodlin), there was a considerable
library on
> the '41. Including the manuals, PPC & CHHU Journals, and
assorted books, I
> probably have 4-5 feet of HP-41 reference materials (rivalling
some
> contemporary mainframe reference libraries).
>
> Jon (ex-PPC, ex-CHHU)

I think I can agree with your criteria.  I'm not sure I'd
consider a real time clock essential.  Very nice but without it
it can still handle everything but scheduling.

The HP48SX was only 32k, upgradable to 292k.  Actually it could
have more than that with bank switching cards but the bank
switching had to be done by the user.  I remember seeing 512k
cards advertised.  There may have been larger ones.  I don't
know if they could be used in both ports or not.  I just has 2
128k cards in mine.

The 48GX was 128k and could do it's own bank switching larger
cards.  Mine has 2.25 meg with the 2 meg card and the 128k card
and the original 128k.  There are 4 meg cards available, too.

Barry

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Axel Berger" <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


> Barry wrote:
> > It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty
keyboard
> > and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
> > drawn to.  It was only one text line high by about 24
characters
> > wide.
>
> That will be the same 1401 i was referring to. Internally it
has 80
> characters per line that scroll horizontally. Handy for long
sums, you can
> go back and check for typing errors while with normal pocket
calculators
> you will have to do it twice to avoid them.

That sounds about right.  I remember the scrolling line but not
how many characters it had.  It's been a long, long time. :)

From what I've been reading, the PC-1 (It was actually not
numbered but it was commonly called the PC-1) had 1.5k and the
PC-3 had 3k.  I thought I remembered them having less than that.

One of the really dumb features was the way it handled arrays.
Variables could only have 1 letter names so there could only be
26 of them.  But you could subscript them.  However, A(1) was
the same variable as either B or B(0).  That can make things
really confusing and I seem to remember that it did.  But I also
remember finding ways to make use of that.  I can't rememeber
what they were now. :)

Another severe limitation was that all strings were 40 bytes
long.  No longer and no shorter.  Or, maybe it was that there
was a single 40 byte string and other strings were part of they
variable array system.  Something like that.  Do you remember?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" <imazagra@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


> Hi,
>
> I had a Casio scientific calculator which looked like
> the HP 200lx's little brother. Same clamshell design
> and also grey. I cannot remember the exact model(
> maybe Fx 780?), but it had a alphanumeric keyboard
> (qwerty if am not mistaken) and could be programmed in
> Basic. It had 16K Ram memory expandable to 32K I
> believe. It must have been built in the mid 80's
> because I bought in 1989 and it was already an old
> model. Somebody stole when I left it in the University
> library(sh***t). It had some PDA-like features.It was
> really nice and powerful. In fact it was sold as Casio
> (FX 780) Personal Computer ( maybe not the exact
> name). Also some of my friends had similar casio
> calculators, without the scientific functions which
> were branded as personal assistants.

Radio Shack also had something like this called either the PC-5
or the PC-6.  I forget which.  It was made by Casio so it may be
the same thing.

I bought it when my PC-3 quit working because PC-3s were no
longer available.  The Basic was totally different and far less
useful.  The PDA features weren't bad but I had no interest in
them.  There was also what they called an assembler but was in
fact an interpretted language with instructions that looked like
assembly opcodes and modelled a 16 bit CPU.  Programs written in
this ran many times slower than programs in Basic and it was
even less powerful than the included Basic.

I think I gave it to somebody who could use the PDA functions.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:04:06 -0500
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I still have an old PC-2.  It was my first "pocket" computer.  One of
the most amazing accessories for it was the four color printer/plotter.
At my first job I was analyzing a lot of different antenna patterns,
and used it to plot patterns in multi-colors!  I have never seen a more
versatile small printer before or since.

The computer itself used a fairly standard BASIC, with some extensions
to deal with the small "screen" and I/O accesories.  You could also
connect the RS-232 interface, which I used to do to check on long
processing jobs on the office mainframe from home.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:15:06 -0500
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I still have my PC-1, and I even still use it sometimes. Bryan


Barry wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Axel Berger" <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?
>
>
>
>>Barry wrote:
>>
>>>It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty
>>>
> keyboard
>

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Barry wrote:
> From what I've been reading, the PC-1 (It was actually not
> numbered but it was commonly called the PC-1) had 1.5k and the
> PC-3 had 3k.
> One of the really dumb features was the way it handled arrays.
> Variables could only have 1 letter names so there could only be
> 26 of them.  But you could subscript them.  However, A(1) was
> the same variable as either B or B(0).
> Another severe limitation was that all strings were 40 bytes
> long.  No longer and no shorter.

We are obviously not talking about exactly the same machine. I just got
my handbook out, printed in Japan 1984. The 1401 has 4.2 kB of RAM, the
1402 10.2 kB. They use two 2032 Lithium cells that last forever. You are
right about the exactly 26 "standard" variables, for which
U=U$=A(21)=A$(21), and which are permanently kept in memory and can be
used outside prgrams. You can define other arrays up to two dimensions
with byte-wide indices each, thus up to 65k elements. Variable names can
have two significant letters, the second of which can be a digit (i.e. 0
to 9). Standard text variables can be up to 7 characters long, for text
arrays you have to state a length in the DIM command.

And it is totally incompatible to any HP LX variant, so we should no go
on too much about it.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:18:09 +0200
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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> why would you want to append two binary files?
> how would you do it from the command line?

I do it all the time for .MP3 and .MPG. Often large files are split into
smaller snippets for web distribution.

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Axel will be pleased to read this! <VBG>
(normally I would not have quoted at all in this reply, this is for
non-threaders)

This Post/LX sounds a terrific program. The one thing that has put me
off
so far ist that from all desciptions I will have to install and setup
several packages to get it to run. With going postal it was just 1) copy
everything, 2) run, 3) works. Do you think even I could manage Post/LX?
Very very seldom it might be nice to have WWW in the small handheld too
-
even if only for the Lynx based (yes really, they do cater for literate
grown-ups!) Deutsche Bahn train and bus schedules.

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Hi friends,

in case anyone is interested:
I just came across a very good latin dictionary, which runs on the
palmtop. It is called "words" and is available in several versions
(DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux) on
http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm

On my palmtop, only the "minwords.exe" executable works, the normal
words.exe gives some storage_error messages.

GTX
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Tony Hutchins wrote:

> why would you want to append two binary files?
> how would you do it from the command line?

For example LXTEL.COM, which you receive regularly, is made from

copy /b lxtel.bin+lxtel.hlp+lxtel.dat lxtel.com

For new versions I only change the database lxtel.dat and then
run the above command. No need for reassembling and linking...

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Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:38:08 +1200 (NZT)

03h52m38s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:45:30 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote:

> Now to go beat someone around the head with a 2x4.  8-)

LOL! Go easy on that mutt Adrian :)

> Anyway, this is indeed getting far afield of HPLX-L.

Agreed, but we all use MUAs<G>. Apologies to all.

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Think of it as one product WWW/LX version 3, with three parts: the TCP/IP
engine, dialler, etc (WWW.EXE) which you have to set up to describe your
connections and so on. Part 2 is the email package POST.EXE and you have to
describe to it your folders, various email addresses etc, and RoboNews/LX
the newsgroup part which again needs descriptions of what to do.

Even in Netscape you have various parts such as who you are, the names of
servers, appearance, etc. etc. But the difference is that it is all in one
CONFIG file. We do not have that luxury in the palmtops.

Almost everyone who tackled the installation, succeeded. Sometimes it takes
a bit of a nudge, an explanation, whatever from me, or Tony, but it is minor.

Just d/l the packages (WWW3EXE, POST3.EXE and ROBONEW.EXE) from our website
- see http://www.dasoft.com/filelist.htm ) and unpack them. Then DO READ
the files that end with DOC. Let me know what you think. You can even post
here in public, good or bad.

Avi

At 4/16/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > Axel will be pleased to read this! <VBG>
>(normally I would not have quoted at all in this reply, this is for
>non-threaders)
>
>This Post/LX sounds a terrific program. The one thing that has put me
>off
>so far ist that from all desciptions I will have to install and setup
>several packages to get it to run. With going postal it was just 1) copy
>everything, 2) run, 3) works. Do you think even I could manage Post/LX?
>Very very seldom it might be nice to have WWW in the small handheld too
>-
>even if only for the Lynx based (yes really, they do cater for literate
>grown-ups!) Deutsche Bahn train and bus schedules.
>
>Axel
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Axel,

BTW - I want to lower your expectations for WWW waaay down, in fact, almost
below the ground <G>... HV can paint very limited amount of the WWW as it
is now because it does not do Java, Javascript, ASP etc etc etc etc...

Text and HTML 3.2 works mostly fine.

I sometime refuse to sell www/lx to customers who want it for browsing only
- I'd rather have a customer pissed at me than upset with the product.

I hope you noticed that my previous message did not even mention HV or WWW.
I really de-emphasize that part a lot because the results are less and less
satisfactory to people.

Avi


At 4/16/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > Axel will be pleased to read this! <VBG>
>(normally I would not have quoted at all in this reply, this is for
>non-threaders)
>
>This Post/LX sounds a terrific program. The one thing that has put me
>off
>so far ist that from all desciptions I will have to install and setup
>several packages to get it to run. With going postal it was just 1) copy
>everything, 2) run, 3) works. Do you think even I could manage Post/LX?
>Very very seldom it might be nice to have WWW in the small handheld too
>-
>even if only for the Lynx based (yes really, they do cater for literate
>grown-ups!) Deutsche Bahn train and bus schedules.
>
>Axel
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09h29m15s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:51:50 +0200, Jacques Belin wrote:

> Le Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:36:05 +0200
> Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG> a icrit:
>
> > Is the "Reply-To" header also recognized ?
>
> Oops !
>
> Typed too fast....
>
> My question was about the "In-Reply-To" header, of course.
> I hope you have corrected yourself.. ;-)

Jacques, I took you literally, because I did not know about
"In-Reply-To:" till yesterday. POST/LX will indeed place a
Message-ID in an In-Reply-To: header, but at the moment the
threading works only on "References:". This is all my fault
actually - I did ask for the threading capabilty a long time
ago - for References, whereas "In-Reply-To" should probably
have top priority. If only I had known about In-Reply-To then.
Not to worry.

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03h15m45s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:19:45 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> With going postal it was just 1) copy everything, 2) run,
> 3) works.

That's the one for you then! You can't beat that, providing it
does what you want.

> Do you think even I could manage Post/LX?

LOL! No worries :)

For e-mail you just need WWW.EXE and POST.EXE and their.CFG
files.

Oh, if you just want to get those train/bus schedules you
could automate that using only GET.EXE and WWW.EXE.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: PC-2


> I still have an old PC-2.  It was my first "pocket" computer.
One of
> the most amazing accessories for it was the four color
printer/plotter.
> At my first job I was analyzing a lot of different antenna
patterns,
> and used it to plot patterns in multi-colors!  I have never
seen a more
> versatile small printer before or since.
>
> The computer itself used a fairly standard BASIC, with some
extensions
> to deal with the small "screen" and I/O accesories.  You could
also
> connect the RS-232 interface, which I used to do to check on
long
> processing jobs on the office mainframe from home.

The PC-2 was the nice one.  I really wanted one but the price
was just too steep in those days.  I had to settle for the PC-3.

They had practically nothing in Common.  The PC-2 had far more
expansion capabilities and far more computing power and a much
more normal Basic.  There was also an assembly development kit
sold by Radio Shack for it.

Barry (who is now very jealous)

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?


> Barry wrote:
> > From what I've been reading, the PC-1 (It was actually not
> > numbered but it was commonly called the PC-1) had 1.5k and
the
> > PC-3 had 3k.
> > One of the really dumb features was the way it handled
arrays.
> > Variables could only have 1 letter names so there could only
be
> > 26 of them.  But you could subscript them.  However, A(1)
was
> > the same variable as either B or B(0).
> > Another severe limitation was that all strings were 40 bytes
> > long.  No longer and no shorter.
>
> We are obviously not talking about exactly the same machine. I
just got
> my handbook out, printed in Japan 1984. The 1401 has 4.2 kB of
RAM, the
> 1402 10.2 kB. They use two 2032 Lithium cells that last
forever. You are
> right about the exactly 26 "standard" variables, for which
> U=U$=A(21)=A$(21), and which are permanently kept in memory
and can be
> used outside prgrams. You can define other arrays up to two
dimensions
> with byte-wide indices each, thus up to 65k elements. Variable
names can
> have two significant letters, the second of which can be a
digit (i.e. 0
> to 9). Standard text variables can be up to 7 characters long,
for text
> arrays you have to state a length in the DIM command.

I think you're describing the one that Radio Shack sold as the
PC-2.  it was a lot more machine than the PC-1 and PC-3.

> And it is totally incompatible to any HP LX variant, so we
should no go
> on too much about it.

I suppose this isn't dead on topic but it doesn't seem so far
off to me.  After all we're talking about the days of old and
since we're all LX users we're all old hat anyway.  :)

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Hi Jon and Daniel and all,


There is an "Introduction to synthetic programming" in the PPC ROM USERS
MANUAL (pp.15 -23).

The scanner of my HP psc950 is one of the features for which I'm awaiting a
fix (sometime late in April, I was told) to make it communicate with
WindozeXP. If/when I get it working I would be glad to e-mail those pages to
anyone who is interested. If only I hadn't given away my old Logitech
scanner!  :((

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Barrett" <jonzann@NETZERO.COM>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From:    Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> > > You should try to find
> > >    "Synthetic Programming on the HP-41C" by Bill Wickes (1980).
> > >    Larken Publications."
> > What is synthetic programming?
> >
> > GTX
> > daniel

Daniel, if you would like to see it sooner, I'll send the nine pages
(including a Hex/Decimal Byte table) by snailmail if you give me your
address.

> The good old HP-41 (my first PDA!) had some unused op-codes, and a couple
> of bugs in the firmware. (ah, when HP user manuals
> were great!) manuals. Of course a lot of this type thing had been going on
> since the HP-65.
Nostalgia time: you should see the program I wrote for the HP65/67 : ))

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Hi Barry,

The Casio I had appears in the site you suggested.
It's model FX-790. It's a pity there isn4t a
photograph of the calculator with the lid closed,
because it really looked like the Hp 200lx.
It also had a solve function (similar to the HP Solve,
but not so powerful).I but bought when I was still at
school so for me it was really powerful.

There is a picture in the site you previously pointed
out:
http://pocket.free.fr/index.html

I think it could be considered one of the first PDAs.
If you take a look at the picture you will see it had
the words PERSONAL COMPUTER printed on the right hand
side of the screen. It also had some external
peripherals to which it could be connected for
external storage, printing etc. If I ever find a used
one I will certainly buy it because it was my first
step into the PDA world.

Cheers,

Inigo




--- Barry <barry@fbtc.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota"
> <imazagra@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: World's first handheld computer?
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had a Casio scientific calculator which looked
> like
> > the HP 200lx's little brother. Same clamshell
> design
> > and also grey. I cannot remember the exact model(
> > maybe Fx 780?), but it had a alphanumeric keyboard
> > (qwerty if am not mistaken) and could be
> programmed in
> > Basic. It had 16K Ram memory expandable to 32K I
> > believe. It must have been built in the mid 80's
> > because I bought in 1989 and it was already an old
> > model. Somebody stole when I left it in the
> University
> > library(sh***t). It had some PDA-like features.It
> was
> > really nice and powerful. In fact it was sold as
> Casio
> > (FX 780) Personal Computer ( maybe not the exact
> > name). Also some of my friends had similar casio
> > calculators, without the scientific functions
> which
> > were branded as personal assistants.
>
> Radio Shack also had something like this called
> either the PC-5
> or the PC-6.  I forget which.  It was made by Casio
> so it may be
> the same thing.
>
> I bought it when my PC-3 quit working because PC-3s
> were no
> longer available.  The Basic was totally different
> and far less
> useful.  The PDA features weren't bad but I had no
> interest in
> them.  There was also what they called an assembler
> but was in
> fact an interpretted language with instructions that
> looked like
> assembly opcodes and modelled a 16 bit CPU.
> Programs written in
> this ran many times slower than programs in Basic
> and it was
> even less powerful than the included Basic.
>
> I think I gave it to somebody who could use the PDA
> functions.
>
> Barry
>
>


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> Hi Jon and Daniel and all, Again,

This is an OOPS! message.

The program I was boasting about at he end of my earlier e-mail was for the
HP67/97 (not 65/67)

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Is the SUPER site down??

Thanks in advance
terry

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 08:45:06AM -0500, Theodore Heise wrote:
> How would a message that references multiple parents
> be represented in a thread diagram?

Representing multiple converging threads all at once would be
akin to displaying a directed graph, which would be really
messy in your typical linear message index.  The easiest
solution is also a cop-out: Display the thread running through
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Hi Barry and all,

Anyone who knows me at all would know that references to the
Timex/Sinclair and the Radio Shack PC-? will flush me out of lurking mode
in no time flat. ;-)

>Are you talking about the Timex Sinclair?  That was a very small
>computer that had to be attatched to a TV set to work.  And if I
>remember right it had a fairly large power brick.  There was
>nothing portable about it.  I don't think it could be called a
>PDA.
>
>But you really didn't say what you were referring to.  I'm
>assuming Timex Sinclair because you replied to a message about
>them.

My first computer was the Timex/Sinclair 1000.  I believe that it was
around 1981 or 1982.

I recently found an emulator for Timex/Sinclair Basic called Xtender, so
I've written a tiny envelope budgeting and finance management program for
it.  Sooner or later I'll continue with it's development.  It is fully
functional right now, though... in fact my wife is using that emulator
with my program on my desktop computer to manage her own budget and cash
flow right now.

I have it setup to run with a click of an icon on my Windows 95 desktop,
but its a DOS based emulator that will even run (although slowly) on my
HP200LX.

Finding that emulator allowed me to do things I haven't been able to do
for many many years, since I never really was able figure out how BASIC
stored and recalled variables into and from data files.  (The
Timex/Sinclar 1000 automatically and seamlessly saves all of its
variables with its programs.)

The emulator saves and retrieves it's programs and data directly to and
from a file on my desktop, making it really fun and practical for my
purposes.

Later, (sometime around 1983 or so) I found the Timex./Sinclair 2068
Color computer with 64K of memory.  I had a lot of fun with that too.  I
wrote and used an investment program with my own savings that told me
when to buy and sell stocks and how much.  I did pretty well with my
investment system until I was forced to stop playing the market.  I was
sent to Germany with the military where I was not able to track my
investments, anymore.

>Sharp and Radio Shack both sold a pocket computer.  It was the
>same computer, made by Sharp but Radio Shack had their name on
>the ones they sold.
>
>It was a very small pocket size device with a qwerty keyboard
>and a small digital lcd display that could be printed to or
>drawn to.  It was only one text line high by about 24 characters
>wide.  I don't remember how many pixels it had.
>
>It had a not too powerful version of Basic but it was good
>enough to be pretty useful in a device like this.  I'm not sure
>but it might be thought of as a PDA.
>
>Later models (the PC4 or 5, I forget which) had a built in
>address book as well.  But the PC1 and PC3 was just Basic and a
>calculator and you had to write your own program for the PDA.  I
>think the first ones had 1k and later ones had 1.5k and then 3k.

I still have 2 Radio Shack PC-6s and am still using one of them.  I
purchased a memory expansion chip for it back then to give it a whopping
16K of memory.

I did what most said was impossible with that computer.  I wrote an
elaborate envelope based budget and finance management program on that
PC-6 in its proprietary form of BASIC that I'm still using today to
manage my own finances.  Its variables are always retained when the power
is turned off.  It runs on a set of lithium hearing aid batteries that
lasts a full year for my purposes.  With the program, its really nice.

Its version of BASIC is very primitive (even more so than the
Timex/Sinclar 1000's), but I did find ways around its many limitations.

Among many other things, my program on that 16K PC-6 holds a fully
searchable database of my last 100 significant transactions, and it still
reconciles my checkbook every month... all within only 16K of memory.
(I used every trick in the book and also some not found anywhere at all
to fit that entire BASIC program and all of it's variables (data) into
that 16K of memory.)

I only have 2 problems with the PC-6 that I haven't been able to get
around.  I can't replace the units anymore if something were to happen to
them... and the only way to backup my  program and its data on that PC-6
was through the use of a cassette tape recorder, whose cassette tapes
stretched enough in time to eventually make backups completely worthless.

That PC-6 running my own program has served me well all of these years,
though, and it is continuing to do so. :-)

If anyone would like more info on either of the above mentioned
computers, I'm definitely the one to talk to. :-)

Sorry that I'm not able to give any specifics about the earlier PC-1.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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> I recently found an emulator for Timex/Sinclair Basic called
Xtender, so
> I've written a tiny envelope budgeting and finance management
program for
> it.  Sooner or later I'll continue with it's development.  It
is fully
> functional right now, though... in fact my wife is using that
emulator
> with my program on my desktop computer to manage her own
budget and cash
> flow right now.
>
> I have it setup to run with a click of an icon on my Windows
95 desktop,
> but its a DOS based emulator that will even run (although
slowly) on my
> HP200LX.

I used to have a Timex Sinclair emulator on my 200lx.  It's
called TS1000, I think.  I probably still have it somewhere.  I
didn't do much with it since I didn't know anything about Timex
Sinclairs.  I just wanted a Z80 to play with.  I never really
got that far with it.

> I still have 2 Radio Shack PC-6s and am still using one of
them.  I
> purchased a memory expansion chip for it back then to give it
a whopping
> 16K of memory.
>
> I only have 2 problems with the PC-6 that I haven't been able
to get
> around.  I can't replace the units anymore if something were
to happen to
> them... and the only way to backup my  program and its data on
that PC-6
> was through the use of a cassette tape recorder, whose
cassette tapes
> stretched enough in time to eventually make backups completely
worthless.

Not being able to back up would worry me.

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Hi Barry,

>That sounds about right.  I remember the scrolling line but not
>how many characters it had.  It's been a long, long time. :)
>
>From what I've been reading, the PC-1 (It was actually not
>numbered but it was commonly called the PC-1) had 1.5k and the
>PC-3 had 3k.  I thought I remembered them having less than that.
>
>One of the really dumb features was the way it handled arrays.
>Variables could only have 1 letter names so there could only be
>26 of them.  But you could subscript them.  However, A(1) was
>the same variable as either B or B(0).  That can make things
>really confusing and I seem to remember that it did.  But I also
>remember finding ways to make use of that.  I can't remember
>what they were now. :)

If it was anything like the PC-6, that was only one of the possible types
of variables one could dimension.  It also supported regular dimensioned
variables too.  I know that because I made extensive use of
multidimensional variables in my own program.  I also thought the above
mentioned type of dimensioned variables were "dumb" and never was able to
think of a single use for them.

>Another severe limitation was that all strings were 40 bytes
>long.  No longer and no shorter.  Or, maybe it was that there
>was a single 40 byte string and other strings were part of they
>variable array system.  Something like that.  Do you remember?

All of its string variables had a fixed length of 7 characters, except
for its special variable length string variable named "$".  That string
variable could hold many characters.  Yes, the PC-6's limitations were
many, but I found ways to work around almost all of its limitations.

Hmm... it also didn't offer the common BASIC "code" or "chr$" functions,
either.  That was a tough one to work around when checking for user input
for errors, but I did manage to do it.

Once written, my program on that PC-6 worked like a charm using only a
few of its keys, and it has served me well for many years now. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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To follow up on this. I received two Pentax printer serial cables from Michel
Bel today and they worked smoothly and flawlessly with the HP cable (and an
intervening null modem). I used them at 19.2K with the sysmgr HP laserjet
driver to print a few test appts etc.

I understand that Michel has a few more of these cables if anyone else is
interested.

The lesson I take from my prior trials and tribulations is don't trust
anything sold for WinCE  even if it is 'just a cable'.

GaryS

On Saturday 13 April 2002 09:17 am, Gary Spiers wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I have a 9600 baud serial to parallel converter that works well with the HP
> and many printers but the PocketJet (due to its small size) has a
> proprietary connector and it does not fit (yet<g>).
>
> As Bob mentioned the port on the printer is an auto sensing serial/parallel
> port and the parallel-serial conversion occurs in  the cable. Pentax has
> two serial cables (a short 'palmtop' cable and a long 'desktop' cable) that
> they currently sell - having tried one (the 'palmtop' Pentax part no
> 203236-552) and not had it work I am reluctant to try the other. I should
> have known better as the palmtop cable was touted as being for WinCE
> machines. (Anyone want a Pentax cable for their WinCE?)
>
> If the older Pentax cables that another list member is sending me do not
> work then I will have to concoct my own cable from a combination of all the
> different pieces (HP cable, serial-parallel convertor and pentax cable sans
> its own electronics) I will have accumulated but it will not be as neat as
> using a Pentax cable spliced to a palmtop cable. OTOH if a list member has
> an idle Shier cable I will take it :-)
>
> As Bob mentioned this is a very nice printer for its size - I already use
> it a lot with my laptop on travel - (btw Bob not Dos or Windows but Linux).
> It uses a special high quality thermal paper that looks ok and the paper is
> readily available from Pentax. Cost per page is reasonable.
>
> I also have a Citizen PN60 that works with the HP (I have a Shier cable for
> it) that I have had much longer and which does color and plain
> paper/transparencies. The Citizen is larger, slower, more expensive per
> page (especially color) and has lower print quality. It is becoming
> difficult to locate ribbons for the Citizen.
>
> GaryS

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I have this dictionary in my 200lx. I can run all executables without any
problem (WORDS, MINWORDS, MEANINGS).

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Hi friends,

in case anyone is interested:
I just came across a very good latin dictionary, which runs on the
palmtop. It is called "words" and is available in several versions
(DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux) on
http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm

On my palmtop, only the "minwords.exe" executable works, the normal
words.exe gives some storage_error messages.

GTX
daniel

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have this dictionary in my 200lx. I can run all executables without any</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Hi friends,<br>
<br>
in case anyone is interested:<br>
I just came across a very good latin dictionary, which runs on the<br>
palmtop. It is called &quot;words&quot; and is available in several versions<br>
(DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux) on<br>
http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm<br>
<br>
On my palmtop, only the &quot;minwords.exe&quot; executable works, the normal<br>
words.exe gives some storage_error messages.<br>
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GTX<br>
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From: "Tim Schweikert" <timschweikert@earthlink.net>
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Subject: WinCE Blues?


>  Actually, Zaurus 5800, HP200LX and other
>  HPC models have taught me to consider the handheld computer as
>  primary for calendar, contacts, and task information.  I don't bother
>  using the desktop at all.  That is one reason why I won't consider an
>  HPC w/o some sort of a keyboard or thumbboard.

I think that's a very good point.  The reason that Palm et al. tout their
synchronisation software so much is simply because the facilities built
into the device are inadequate to do the job!

Certainly, I wouldn't want to waste spare moments on a train journey
trying to input contact details from collected business cards using a
stylus.  No problem doing that with the LX.

Michael

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David Becher wrote:

> I use netvision (in Israel) as my ISP and also use GRIC when travelling.=
 I have
> used it successfully in Thailand and Australia with LXTCP and PNR as
> described.


I compared the 2 services at the website of my ISP. GRIC seems
to be more expensive. It costs uniformly US$0.20 outside the US
and Canada (and $0.10 within). But there are many countries
where iPASS charges only $0.10 per minute. In both cases, $0.20
is the max. It is certainly cheaper than long distance to the
home ISP.

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Hello friends,

I use Outlook Express on a Win98 desktop. Last night I received
spam offering financial services. There was something about this
particular piece of email that would crash Outlook Express
whenever I attempted to delete it. Eventually I could not open
OE at all because this spam was at the top and when OE tried to
show it in the preview pane it died. I managed to locate my OE
database folders (in my case my inbox is called inbox.dbx). I
copied my inbox to a backup file. Then, using a hex editor I dug
around and found the offending spam. I could not see anything
unusual about it except for the fact that the sender's email
address was about 100 characters long. Using my hex editor I
blanked out all occurrences of this address. Don't use a text
editor for this, you will corrupt your inbox. I then restarted
OE and was able to delete the spam.

I hope this may be helpful to others in a similar predicament.

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Oh, if you just want to get those train/bus schedules you
> could automate that using only GET.EXE and WWW.EXE.

They are a bit more sohisticated than that: I give them starting point,
destination, date and time (either start or arrival) and after asking back
if any of the places are ambiguous they first offer me total travel times,
number of changes and list of modes used and after chossing one or more the
details. Much cheaper at home, but having got stuck somewhere out there ...
But all lynx based so a very basic browser on a slow connection (hey, 9600
used to be much faster than I could afford, fast was 2400) will suffice, no
bells, no whistles, no overhead.

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John J Vanderstel wrote:
> I also thought the above
> mentioned type of dimensioned variables were "dumb" and never was able to
> think of a single use for them.

Depends. They are always available and not deleted ending one program and
starting another. And you can write
for z=1 to 5
... A(Z) ...
next Z
where using A,B,C,D,E would be a bother. I too have not used them as an
array, but then I like most often use only a small subset of programs'
capabilities.

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The easy way out of this is to turn off the preview panel,
and then delete the item.

I think it is under view / layout.

/jack     (Been there, done that)


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Subject: OT:Spam Crashes Outlook Express


>Hello friends,
>
>I use Outlook Express on a Win98 desktop. Last night I received
>spam offering financial services. There was something about this
>particular piece of email that would crash Outlook Express
>whenever I attempted to delete it. Eventually I could not open
>OE at all because this spam was at the top and when OE tried to
>show it in the preview pane it died. I managed to locate my OE
>database folders (in my case my inbox is called inbox.dbx). I
>copied my inbox to a backup file. Then, using a hex editor I dug
>around and found the offending spam. I could not see anything
>unusual about it except for the fact that the sender's email
>address was about 100 characters long. Using my hex editor I
>blanked out all occurrences of this address. Don't use a text
>editor for this, you will corrupt your inbox. I then restarted
>OE and was able to delete the spam.
>
>I hope this may be helpful to others in a similar predicament.
>
>Regards,
>Tom Salwasser
>
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> Certainly, I wouldn't want to waste spare moments on a train journey
> trying to input contact details from collected business
> cards using a
> stylus.  No problem doing that with the LX.

No Problem doing that on a Jornada without keyboard. You just need the
right tools for the job (i.e. Calligrapher).

regards,
Oliver

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Hi list,

Recently I experience some problem. I can transfer stuff from HP to
desktop through TransFile though it changes dates but can't connect to PC
with the help of zip.com - which I prefer more - "connect error".
Strange thing - transfile finds HP through COM2 but when in zip.com on
desktop changed to COM2 - no connection. On any other ports - TOO :-(

When can be the problem?
Any tips, advices?
TIA

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Date:         Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:36:23 +0200
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Daniel,

> in case anyone is interested:
> I just came across a very good latin dictionary, which runs on the
> palmtop. It is called "words" and is available in several versions
> (DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux) on
> http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm

Thank you very much.

> On my palmtop, only the "minwords.exe" executable works, the normal
> words.exe gives some storage_error messages.

On my palmtop I used only words which did work fine. I did run it from
a CFlash.

Thanks again and please go ahead to find latin > german <g>.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:24:46 -0700, evan koblentz wrote:

Evan

Welcome to the Hplx-l

I see the discussion is going well. :-)

Please turn off in your mailer the "html" sending. And please quote
only the things you are replying to.

You have entered the exiting world of small 80186 dos palmtops. Many of
us use the Hplx for all email. Many of us also goes online with
cellphones.

Therefor we do not like html or any excessive quoting. We like the
messages small and cheap to download.

TIA

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Date:         Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:44:15 -0700
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:38:15 -0700, Gary Spiers wrote:

> If you are talking about the ZX80/81 computers as we called them in the UK
> then they certainly are not handhelds. We had one in the student flat I was
> in at the time.

Ah the flat little Zx80/81..I remember them. My dad and me used them
for fun many many years ago. Then the Spectrum came, but none of these
was handheld.

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:41:54 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > And the HP-41C, while on the surface it's just a
> > scientific/programmable calculator, was actually the first to have
> > alphanumeric capability
>
> If you are content with that - does anyone remember when the BASIC
> programmable Sharp 1401 (which I still use, but no longer for largeish
> programs as I used to) came out? A friend of mine borrowed it several times
> and filled all the program memory with written cheats and reminders for the
> exams he had to sit.

Bad quoting. I can not remember writing what you quote.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:13:47 +0200
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Hi Radek

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:16:35 +0200, Radek Svagr <radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM> wrote:

> I have this dictionary in my 200lx. I can run all executables without any
> problem (WORDS, MINWORDS, MEANINGS).
>

So this proves it _can_ be run on the palmtop without problems.
Good to know.
Probably I simply have a bit too little RAM available.

It's also mentioned in the manual that this STORAGE_ERROR occurs if not
enough RAM is available.

GTX
daniel

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Hi all!

Has anyone found a database on either Wince or Palm that comes anywhere
near the database on the HPLX?

I'll probably post the info people sent me on the batteries next week.

Thanks all!

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All,

 Several of my office co-workers have purchased handspring pdas, and =
knowing my steadfast devotion to the hp200 have been trying to dethrone =
it.  So far they have had no luck - anything they can do, I can do =
better! and there is lots they can't even come close to accomplishing.
 But today, I did get stumped my a simple little program on one of there =
units that replicated a mirror.  Anyone know of dos program that I can =
load and turn the lx's screen into a mirror?

TIA
Larry

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I found the following report and checked out the website.  Sounds rather
interesting.  WinXP does offer access to DOS or emulated DOS, right?

What are your thoughts about it?

>Start-up shrinks PC to palm size
>
>First there was the pocket calculator. Then there was the pocket
>organizer. And if start-up OQO gets its way, the next big thing
>will be the pocket PC. The Seattle-based company is showing off
>a full-fledged "ultra personal" computer this week at
>Microsoft's Windows Hardware Engineering Conference, or WinHEC
>2002. The computer is slightly thicker but roughly the same size
>as handhelds currently coming out from Palm or Hewlett-Packard.
>April 16, 2002, 9:45 AM PT
>http://clickthru.online.com/Click?q=a0-11h8QQBYcBDwwKiUB4jy1lb5OgrR

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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Hi Axel

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:53:11 +0200, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:

> They are a bit more sohisticated than that: I give them starting point,
> destination, date and time (either start or arrival) and after asking back
> if any of the places are ambiguous they first offer me total travel times,
> number of changes and list of modes used and after chossing one or more the
> details. Much cheaper at home, but having got stuck somewhere out there ...
> But all lynx based so a very basic browser on a slow connection (hey, 9600
> used to be much faster than I could afford, fast was 2400) will suffice, no
> bells, no whistles, no overhead.

If you give me an exact URL, I can test if HV can handle that.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:56:25 +0200
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Jeff V wrote:

> Has anyone found a database on either Wince or Palm that comes anywhere
> near the database on the HPLX?

ThinkDB on the Palm. It's commercial software, but I think the version 2.=
0
on the handheld is free. Great.

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On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Larry Castor wrote:

> But today, I did get stumped my a simple little program on one of there
> units that replicated a mirror.  Anyone know of dos program that I can
> load and turn the lx's screen into a mirror?

If you can program, then fill the screen with characters of ASCII code
219, and choose the color that looks the most dark.
That's the way it is done on the Palm.

But I don't think it will work, the HP screen doesn't seem reflective
enough.

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I have nothing to do with this auction, but others on the list may be
interested
as these seem to be getting pretty scarce.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2017769531

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Yea, Visual CE

It is a full relational database that can  sychronize  to MS Access, or =
ANY OTHER ODBC enabled database. It includes a forms  builder  for easy =
application design and has an optional Report writer/printing  software.

details at http://www.syware.com


HTH
Qman...

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    From: "Jeff V"<hplx@SIRVEISS.COM>
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    To: "HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu"<HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
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   =20
    Hi all!
   =20
    Has anyone found a database on either Wince or Palm that comes =
anywhere
    near the database on the HPLX?
   =20
    I'll probably post the info people sent me on the batteries next =
week.
   =20
    Thanks all!
   =20
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If you want Biorhythm Compatibility here is a qwbasic program.
Ofcourse, You can make it more easilly in lotus123 with chart also...

5 REM Biorhythm Compatibility
10 INPUT Y1,M1,D1
20 INPUT Y2,M2,D2
30 IF M1 > 2 THEN 60
40 M1=M1+12
50 Y1=Y1-1
60 IF M2 > 2 THEN 90
70 M2=M2+12
80 Y2=Y2-1
90 N1=D1+FIX((153*M1-457)/5)+365*Y1+INT(Y1/4)-INT(Y1/100)+INT(Y1/400)
100 N2=D2+FIX((153*M2-457)/5)+365*Y2+INT(Y2/4)-INT(Y2/100)+INT(Y2/400)
110 N=ABS(N2-N1)
120 MOD23=N-FIX(N/23)*23
130 PRINT
140 FK=ABS(-2*MOD23/23+1)*100
150 PRINT "Phys. Compatibility",
151 PRINT USING"###.##";FK;
152 PRINT " %"
160 MOD28=N-FIX(N/28)*28
170 PRINT
180 EK=ABS(-2*MOD28/28+1)*100
190 PRINT "Emot. Compatibility",
191 PRINT USING"###.##";EK;
192 PRINT " %"
200 MOD33=N-FIX(N/33)*33
210 PRINT
220 IK=ABS(-2*MOD33/33+1)*100
230 PRINT "Intell.Compatibility",
231 PRINT USING"###.##";IK;
232 PRINT " %"
240 PRINT
245 SK=(FK+EK+IK)/3
250 PRINT "Aver. Compatibility",
251 PRINT USING"###.##";SK;
252 PRINT " %"
260 PRINT

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              and of course the 95LX thingies (free.).
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I have for sale:

2 complete refurbished LX kits, containing:

  2 MB US/UK 200LX with good screen and keyboard, no hinge breaks
  HP F1011A  #ABB charger 100-240V
  Connectivity cable, printer adapter, 25 pins PC/modem adapter
  New User guide and Quick Guide
  CDR with lots of software:

Price including shipping (Worldpack Special Priority Insured) 180 Euro for
Europe, USD180 rest of the world.

1 complete kit with 200LX NIB:

  NEW 2MB 200LX, only opened for checking. ( Box in less salabrious
condition though..)
    Serial number 94......, hence very late new model.
  HP F1011A #ABB charger 100-240V
  Connectivity cable, printer adapter, PC adapter
  New Sealed User Guide and Quick Guide
  CDR with lots of software

Price including shipping (Worldpack Special Priority Insured) 280 Euro for
Europe, USD280 rest of the world.

HP Connectivity Kit: Original diskettes plus Cable. USD 40 including
worldwide shipping.

Conditions: Paypal or direct bank transfer(your cost)

95LX adapters: Black thingies to put on top of your 200LX cables: 1 picture
postcard each ( includes worldwide shipping).

Several more motherboards, keyboards, bottoms etc. Inquire

Pentax Pocketjet cable ( requires null modem). USD15 including shipping.

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(Reprinted without permission. For first-hand details, visit:
http://www.oqo.com )

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Modular PC Downsizes the Computer

Wed Apr 17, 8:23 AM ET
By JIM KRANE, AP Technology Writer

NEW YORK - A little-known San Francisco company called OQO Inc. announc=
ed
on Tuesday a "modular" computer that crams processor,
memory, battery and storage into a package the size of a paperback nove=
l.

When the $1,000 Ultra-Personal Computer hits stores this fall or winter=
, it
will operate as a stand-alone wireless handheld computer, akin to a Pal=
m,
the company said. Or it can be used as a "modular PC" that connects to =
a
full-size keyboard, mouse and monitor to replace a desktop PC.

For now, handheld computers of its size ? such as those running the Pal=
m
and Microsoft Pocket PC operating systems ? merely synchronize with a
computer's personal organization software. The portable OQO goes furthe=
r,
becoming the central computing entity.

"This is a full Windows XP computer that fits in your pocket," said Col=
in
Hunter, executive vice president of OQO. "Desktops are pretty much dead=
.
Most people would prefer to have a computer they can carry around with =
them
all the time."

The 5-inch by 3-inch device runs Microsoft Windows XP Professional on a=

Transmeta Corp. Crusoe processor, of up to 1 gigahertz. It also bundles=
 256
megabytes of RAM, a 10 gigabyte hard drive, and two wireless networking=

connections ? using the 802.11b and Bluetooth standards.

A docking cable allows it to connect with an external keyboard, mouse a=
nd
monitor. It can also be networked to an existing PC or laptop through a=
n
Ethernet cable or wireless connection. When undocked, the device's batt=
ery
life is similar to a laptop's, at 3-8 hours, depending on use.

OQO is currently negotiating licensing agreements with electronics
companies who could manufacture and market the device. A version
manufactured and sold under the OQO brand is also possible, a spokesman=

said.

Start-up OQO, founded in 1999, includes engineers and designers from Ap=
ple
Computer, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, IBM Corp., the Massachusett=
s
Institute of Technology, Oracle Corp. and Transmeta.

In February, IBM announced it would license technology for a similar
device, known as the MetaPad, to vendors. IBM's MetaPad won't be ready =
for
a few years.

-----

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Hi Larry and Erwann

On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:59:34 +0200, Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM> wrote:

> If you can program, then fill the screen with characters of ASCII code
> 219, and choose the color that looks the most dark.
> That's the way it is done on the Palm.
>
> But I don't think it will work, the HP screen doesn't seem reflective
> enough.

So take a little sheet of aluminium foil and put it on the screen.
Takes up zero disk space, is easy to obtain, cheap, and when you
occasionally don't need your LX as a mirror, but for other important
things, e.g. to play DOS 5.0 or press on topcard keys to make it beep
so nicely, you can remove the aluminium foil and store it folded
in the PCMCIA slot or in the battery compartment.
But take care not to damage anything with a short circuit!
;-)

Seriously: If you want a black screen to try that, simply press On-+
for some time and the screen will be as black as it can be. So the mirror
software is even already built into the LX's ROM. You see: The LX is
still the most sophisticated machine ever,

GTX
daniel

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I wish people took the 2 seconds to add a subject instead of lazily bang
out posts...

The company is called Oqo - see http://www.oqo.com. Unlike the article
below, they are San Francisco-based (1800 Illinois, SF 94124). The machine
is wonderful, but not out until 2nd half 2002. Price expected to be about
what subnotebooks cost, and below, but we'll see. The physical specs:

         dimensions (mm)  weight (gm.)
OQO:    22 x 74 x 105         250
200LX:  25 x 85 x 159         318

Screen is new technology, 200 dpi, 4" diagonally measured screen,
equivalent to 12-14" screen on notebooks. Very high VGA resolution. The
screen consumes about 20 times less power than notebooks' screens.

Chip is Crusoe TM5800 - 1GHz - fast and lean on power.

They seem to target it to the music/entertainment market: They talk about
how many MP3 files and MPEG movies they can store on the drive, the high
fidelity of the audio and so on. I think they are trying to ride on two
markets: Those who need small notebooks and are tired of carrying 2-3
machines, and the entertainment market. Strange combo but may just work for
them.

I think they have one solid vision: They perceive that people are tired of
carrying notebooks AND PDAs and synchronize between them. So they make a
machine you can use all day.

I also see shortcomings: e.g. You'll either have to use the touch screen to
"type" input on a simulated kbd, or "scribe" input as in Grafitti, or carry
a tiny keyboard with you.

Still nice machine. Hope it will see the light of day. I think I want one.

Enjoy!

Avi


At 4/18/02 -0400, John J Vanderstel wrote:
>I found the following report and checked out the website.  Sounds rather
>interesting.  WinXP does offer access to DOS or emulated DOS, right?
>
>What are your thoughts about it?
>
> >Start-up shrinks PC to palm size
> >
> >First there was the pocket calculator. Then there was the pocket
> >organizer. And if start-up OQO gets its way, the next big thing
> >will be the pocket PC. The Seattle-based company is showing off
> >a full-fledged "ultra personal" computer this week at
> >Microsoft's Windows Hardware Engineering Conference, or WinHEC
> >2002. The computer is slightly thicker but roughly the same size
> >as handhelds currently coming out from Palm or Hewlett-Packard.
> >April 16, 2002, 9:45 AM PT
> >http://clickthru.online.com/Click?q=a0-11h8QQBYcBDwwKiUB4jy1lb5OgrR
>
>Cheers!
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
>
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There is nothing in that website, but I found it at
http://www.transmeta.com/images/everywhere/products/oqo_ultrapersonal_bg.jpg

On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, A Meshar wrote:

> I wish people took the 2 seconds to add a subject instead of lazily bang
> out posts...
>
> The company is called Oqo - see http://www.oqo.com. Unlike the article
> below, they are San Francisco-based (1800 Illinois, SF 94124). The machine
> is wonderful, but not out until 2nd half 2002. Price expected to be about
> what subnotebooks cost, and below, but we'll see. The physical specs:
>
>          dimensions (mm)  weight (gm.)
> OQO:    22 x 74 x 105         250
> 200LX:  25 x 85 x 159         318
>
> Screen is new technology, 200 dpi, 4" diagonally measured screen,
> equivalent to 12-14" screen on notebooks. Very high VGA resolution. The
> screen consumes about 20 times less power than notebooks' screens.
>
> Chip is Crusoe TM5800 - 1GHz - fast and lean on power.
>
> They seem to target it to the music/entertainment market: They talk about
> how many MP3 files and MPEG movies they can store on the drive, the high
> fidelity of the audio and so on. I think they are trying to ride on two
> markets: Those who need small notebooks and are tired of carrying 2-3
> machines, and the entertainment market. Strange combo but may just work for
> them.
>
> I think they have one solid vision: They perceive that people are tired of
> carrying notebooks AND PDAs and synchronize between them. So they make a
> machine you can use all day.
>
> I also see shortcomings: e.g. You'll either have to use the touch screen to
> "type" input on a simulated kbd, or "scribe" input as in Grafitti, or carry
> a tiny keyboard with you.
>
> Still nice machine. Hope it will see the light of day. I think I want one.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Avi
>
>
> At 4/18/02 -0400, John J Vanderstel wrote:
> >I found the following report and checked out the website.  Sounds rather
> >interesting.  WinXP does offer access to DOS or emulated DOS, right?
> >
> >What are your thoughts about it?
> >
> > >Start-up shrinks PC to palm size
> > >
> > >First there was the pocket calculator. Then there was the pocket
> > >organizer. And if start-up OQO gets its way, the next big thing
> > >will be the pocket PC. The Seattle-based company is showing off
> > >a full-fledged "ultra personal" computer this week at
> > >Microsoft's Windows Hardware Engineering Conference, or WinHEC
> > >2002. The computer is slightly thicker but roughly the same size
> > >as handhelds currently coming out from Palm or Hewlett-Packard.
> > >April 16, 2002, 9:45 AM PT
> > >http://clickthru.online.com/Click?q=a0-11h8QQBYcBDwwKiUB4jy1lb5OgrR
> >
> >Cheers!
> >
> >John Vander Stel
> >Grand Rapids, Michigan
> >
> >
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At 4/18/02 -0400, you wrote:
>There is nothing in that website, but I found it at
>http://www.transmeta.com/images/everywhere/products/oqo_ultrapersonal_bg.jpg

The picture is nice! You probably need Macromedia Shockwave installed.
Their whole page is in that.

and the story on Transmeta's page is at
http://www.transmeta.com/about/press/special_press/oqo_16apr02.html

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> I also see shortcomings: e.g. You'll either have to use the
> touch screen to
> "type" input on a simulated kbd, or "scribe" input as in
> Grafitti, or carry
> a tiny keyboard with you.

That's the problem with every PocketPC. My Jornada learned to read my
handwriting, so I don't really need a keyboard on that (but the hplx
is still more comfortable)

> Still nice machine. Hope it will see the light of day. I
> think I want one.

Compared to the WindowsCE devices on the market this could be a real
winner.

regards,
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Hi Avi and all,

>The company is called Oqo - see http://www.oqo.com. Unlike the article
>below, they are San Francisco-based (1800 Illinois, SF 94124). The
machine
>is wonderful, but not out until 2nd half 2002. Price expected to be
about
>what subnotebooks cost, and below, but we'll see. The physical specs:

I attempted to checkout the above referenced website, but even with IE
v5.0 I was not able to get past the animation.  Clicking the apparently
clickable links for contact, hardware, company info, etc had no effect,
whatsoever.

Do those links seem to be dead for anyone else?

Has anyone else been able to at least access contact info for them such
as an email address?  I would really like to learn more about what they
are developing.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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Daniel and Erwann

> > If you can program, then fill the screen with characters of ASCII =
code 219, and choose the color that looks the most dark.<<


>
> So take a little sheet of aluminium foil and put it on the screen.
> ....
> Seriously: If you want a black screen to try that, simply press On-+ =
for some time and the screen will be as black as it can be. So the mirror =
software is even already built into the LX's ROM. You see: The LX is =
still the most sophisticated machine ever,<<


I tried the On+, and really it works pretty good - almost as good as the =
pda!  But I noticed that parts of the screen can still go darker, ie the =
header portion of memo.

Per Erwann's suggestion, I would try to program something --- If I knew =
how :-(


But I just finished cutting my aluminum foil to size - that should do the =
trick!:-)

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> Check what your TEMP environment variable is pointing to, and that it =
can be
> written to, and your disk is not filling up ;-)

Might do so, thanks. The disk is virgin and has plenty of room.

> You say that the PHONE.PDB had fields.  Were you using 'Outlook to =
HPLX' or
> 'Synchronize' ?   Have you tried 'Outlook to HPLX' and giving a new =
empty
> PDB file as the target?

I tried both but now that you say I will repet the execise.

> Have you tried with both the 'Append' and 'Overwrite' options?

Never got that far ?

> Check the PDB and ADB files have not acquired READ-ONLY attribute =
somehow.

Hmm. Never touched that but I will verify.

> I assume you are not running the connectivity pack at the same time - =
so no
> chance the PDB file was open?

No. CPACK works only in a plain DOS boot environment while Outlook is
running in a W2k environment.

> Maybe try with virus check s/w turned off, but not very likely.

OK. Another variable to test :)

> Check you use a supported version of Outlook?

It is official company license.

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Tom Salwasser wrote:

> HP, please tell us more about the WinCE Blues and why you are
> abandoning your Jornada 720?

1) The mail client works inconsistently. When online I have to start
downloading mails consecutively - it is hardly ever done in one online
run.

2) Attachments get crippeled. If there are multiple attachments the
first one will always be appended to the message body as gibberish
characters and you cannot extract it. The remaining attachments come in
fine.

3) When the online connection breaks you have to cycle manually through
deleting all read messages on the server.

4) You can use WinCE only at night. During the day you can hardly see
anything on the screen.

5) PocketDOS does not give enough free memory for nested calls of GUI
programs - eg it freezes when you want to edit a note in the database
applications of CPACK

6) The J720 is a brick

But probbably I'm just too ignorant to operate the J720 ;-)

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You need Macromedia Flash for this. I think their webmaster is a moron to
assume everyone has it installed. They do not even give a hint... I hope
the webmaster had nothing to do with the design of the machine.

At 4/18/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Avi and all,
>
> >The company is called Oqo - see http://www.oqo.com. Unlike the article
> >below, they are San Francisco-based (1800 Illinois, SF 94124). The
>machine
> >is wonderful, but not out until 2nd half 2002. Price expected to be
>about
> >what subnotebooks cost, and below, but we'll see. The physical specs:
>
>I attempted to checkout the above referenced website, but even with IE
>v5.0 I was not able to get past the animation.  Clicking the apparently
>clickable links for contact, hardware, company info, etc had no effect,
>whatsoever.
>
>Do those links seem to be dead for anyone else?
>
>Has anyone else been able to at least access contact info for them such
>as an email address?  I would really like to learn more about what they
>are developing.
>
>Cheers!
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
>
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Some people cannot get in their page. Here is the contact info:

OQO, Inc.
1800 Illinois
San Francisco, CA 94124

Voice: 415-920-9090
Fax:415-550-1504

info@oqo.com

Also, 6 images of their website screens are at http://www.dasoft.com/oqo
... Click on the little images to see the full image and read the info.


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HP,

For daytime use of a WinCE you need to purchase and carry around a
Worthington (http://garys.hplx.net/LINDA98.htm second picture.)

<G>aryS

On Thursday 18 April 2002 10:29 pm, HP Staber wrote:
> 4) You can use WinCE only at night. During the day you can hardly see
> anything on the screen.

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Hi all,

A Meshar schrieb am 18.04.2002:
>You need Macromedia Flash for this.

Even with MF: Some links are simply dead. I only can hope, that the
oqo-machine works better then the website.

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

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I patched a Volkov commander 5 (latest 4.99alpha) to let it work on
doublespeeded 200lx.
If anybody interested I can send it.

Note: For version 4.0x (except 4.05) There is a patch for it by
Mack Bagette from T2T on Super.

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The new Canon PowerShot S200 (IXUS V2 in Germany) comes
with an intelligent orientation sensor which detects
orientation and properly rotates every shot. No more need
to rotate a portrait mode photo by 90 degree using software.

This is a real innovation and indeed good news for LXPIC!

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> http://www.transmeta.com/images/everywhere/products/oqo_ultrapersonal_bg=
.jpg

tell them quickly, that design is a major key for success nowadays.

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> tell them quickly, that design is a major key for success nowadays.

Form follows fuction. The design of the whole thing is ok to me, but
I'd like to take a peek inside... After sleeping on it I don't think
that it is possible to actually build such a device with all the
features. When I think about the power-consumption of a display like
the one featured here, 256MB RAM, the CPU and a harddisk..... Even
with a microdrive, 3-4 hours is the max you can get with a battery
that fits in the shell of the oqo :-\

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seems like http://www.tiqit.com/ has similar features as far a screen and
drives go, [albeit i don't know how a National Semi pentium compares power
wise to a transmeta]



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver W. Leibenguth [mailto:Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE]
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> features. When I think about the power-consumption of a display like
> the one featured here, 256MB RAM, the CPU and a harddisk..... Even
> with a microdrive, 3-4 hours is the max you can get with a battery
> that fits in the shell of the oqo :-\
>
> regards,
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I do not seem to have found dead links. tell me which I'll post screenshots=
=20
if possible.

Avi

At 4/19/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>A Meshar schrieb am 18.04.2002:
> >You need Macromedia Flash for this.
>
>Even with MF: Some links are simply dead. I only can hope, that the
>oqo-machine works better then the website.
>
>Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton
>
>Michael Lennartz
>lennartz-mi@gmx.net
>http://www.lennartz-online.net
>Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57
>
>Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton
>
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They intend two uses for the brick itself:

1. as a tablet or something like a PalmPilot with a stylus or miniature
kbd. But the power of a 1GHz cpu, 256mb memory, 10GB drive and hopefully
some decent o/s (WinXP in my mind is another loser in the long chain of MS
losers!) the fact you can have such a powerful machine on your palm will
mitigate a lot of design flaws. BTW, let me remind you that the beloved
200lx is not exactly a design achievement in beauty - but it is full of
function.

2. as a replacement for a desktop/notebook. In this mode you take your
brick and dock it, using full size monitor, kbd etc. Design makes little
difference here. Sure some morons will buy it because it is pretty
disregarding functionality. But most people (hopefully, unless the human
race deteriorated into deeper idiocy since I last checked) will but the
function of the machine.

Avi

At 4/19/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> http://www.transmeta.com/images/everywhere/products/oqo_ultrapersonal_bg.jpg
>
>tell them quickly, that design is a major key for success nowadays.
>
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At 4/19/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > tell them quickly, that design is a major key for success nowadays.
>
>Form follows fuction. The design of the whole thing is ok to me, but
>I'd like to take a peek inside... After sleeping on it I don't think
>that it is possible to actually build such a device with all the
>features.

I beg to differ. I am not connected with Oqo in any way so I know nothing
more than is public about them and their machine.

But I have some other relevant experience. I used a machine along the lines
of Oqo a few months ago. A friend of mine commissioned a private design
along the lines of the "HP 260LX" which was literally invented in this
community (I can post again the initial April Fool's Day Announcement of
the HP 260LX which started it all.) A run of 25 was ordered and executed. I
used one for a few weeks, and it is everything that a 260LX was dreamed to
be, and then some. The Oqo is very similar to it.

Second: About 3 years ago, I participated in a group of mostly computer
engineers and computer manufacturers executives from Asia. The group
had  full designs ready for serious prototyping and preliminary market
testing. None of the experienced engineers and executives had any doubts
that such a miniature subnotebook can be built, manufactured, and sold
successfully. (This effort died when the financial crisis hit banks and
industry in Asia.)

Third: In 1996-1997 one of my customers rebuilt the HP100LX motherboard to
contain a 486-look-alike cpu of their own design. We sent it to HP in
Singapore with a proposal to use that chip in the sequel machine in the LX
family. That motherboard worked for 2 months at 100MHz on 3 AAA batteries.
HP ignored it since it was not invented in Singapore's labs, it could not
have been good :-( ...

These are three examples that I know personally well and in detail.

A year ago I saw a machine demonstrated the size of a 200LX which came out
of IBM. It was no longer in research, but instead being sold to engineering
companies that survey the insides of ships, oil rigs, and other huge
structures. They use it to go into the spaces between the double hulls of
tankers, into the spaces in the "legs" of the oil rigs, etc, and inspect
there the structure for fatigue, cracks, and other deformations and
damages. The engineer-surveyor wears one of these IBM machines (486 at
200MHz, plenty of memory, large disk, driving a holographic-like display),
crawls in, and works for a few hours, checking on CAD files from the disk,
to compare with reality, taking pictures with digital cameras, marking
areas of concern or attention, and so on. IBM has been selling these
puppies for 3-4 years already.

>When I think about the power-consumption of a display like
>the one featured here, 256MB RAM, the CPU and a harddisk..... Even
>with a microdrive, 3-4 hours is the max you can get with a battery
>that fits in the shell of the oqo :-\

The power consumption of this screen is unusually small, extraordinarily
small. The CPU we put into the 100LX motherboard used 1/10 to 1/15 of the
power consumption of normal mobile-application chips, and lower voltage -
so heat was much much lower. RAM can be built today to run on nearly
nothing. I think that 3 years ago, even 2 years ago, these limitations you
mention were answered only by extreme design. Now the power consumptions of
items can be very low without heroics. However, these components are not
mainstream - YET! This is a question of demand for the components, no
longer a question of having to design and build them...

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I did not find any dead links either.
"Velly Intellesting!"
bob
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I do not seem to have found dead links. tell me which I'll post screenshots
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> They intend two uses for the brick itself:
>
> 1. as a tablet or something like a PalmPilot with a stylus or
miniature
> kbd. But the power of a 1GHz cpu, 256mb memory, 10GB drive and
hopefully
> some decent o/s (WinXP in my mind is another loser in the long
chain of MS
> losers!) the fact you can have such a powerful machine on your
palm will
> mitigate a lot of design flaws. BTW, let me remind you that
the beloved
> 200lx is not exactly a design achievement in beauty - but it
is full of
> function.

Since this is a Crusoe chip isn't a lot of the processing that's
normally done in hardware done in software so that 1GHz in the
Crusoe isn't like 1 GHz in a pentium?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar"
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: oqo brick


> But I have some other relevant experience. I used a machine along the
lines
> of Oqo a few months ago. A friend of mine commissioned a private design
> along the lines of the "HP 260LX" which was literally invented in this
> community (I can post again the initial April Fool's Day Announcement of
> the HP 260LX which started it all.) A run of 25 was ordered and executed.
I
> used one for a few weeks, and it is everything that a 260LX was dreamed to
> be, and then some. The Oqo is very similar to it.
>

And I'm disappointed that we are just learning of this!
Designed by us.  Built and tested and no announcements.
And, I guess, no production.  :-(
Oh well.....
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Hi friends

HP260LX !!??
I WANT TO KNOW!!!

Also, an HP200LX w/ an 486 @ 100MHz... I want TWO of them!!!

Please Avi; Can you tell us (or me, as you prefer) more about those
projects?

Thanks a lot

Juan Belmonte


----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar"

> But I have some other relevant experience. I used a machine along the
lines
> of Oqo a few months ago. A friend of mine commissioned a private design
> along the lines of the "HP 260LX" which was literally invented in this
> community (I can post again the initial April Fool's Day Announcement of
> the HP 260LX which started it all.) A run of 25 was ordered and executed.
I
> used one for a few weeks, and it is everything that a 260LX was dreamed to
> be, and then some. The Oqo is very similar to it.
[...]
> Third: In 1996-1997 one of my customers rebuilt the HP100LX motherboard to
> contain a 486-look-alike cpu of their own design. We sent it to HP in
> Singapore with a proposal to use that chip in the sequel machine in the LX
> family. That motherboard worked for 2 months at 100MHz on 3 AAA batteries.
> HP ignored it since it was not invented in Singapore's labs, it could not
> have been good :-( ...
>
> These are three examples that I know personally well and in detail.
>
> A year ago I saw a machine demonstrated the size of a 200LX which came out
> of IBM. It was no longer in research, but instead being sold to
engineering
> companies that survey the insides of ships, oil rigs, and other huge
> structures. They use it to go into the spaces between the double hulls of
> tankers, into the spaces in the "legs" of the oil rigs, etc, and inspect
> there the structure for fatigue, cracks, and other deformations and
> damages. The engineer-surveyor wears one of these IBM machines (486 at
> 200MHz, plenty of memory, large disk, driving a holographic-like display),
> crawls in, and works for a few hours, checking on CAD files from the disk,
> to compare with reality, taking pictures with digital cameras, marking
> areas of concern or attention, and so on. IBM has been selling these
> puppies for 3-4 years already.
>
> >When I think about the power-consumption of a display like
> >the one featured here, 256MB RAM, the CPU and a harddisk..... Even
> >with a microdrive, 3-4 hours is the max you can get with a battery
> >that fits in the shell of the oqo :-\
>
> The power consumption of this screen is unusually small, extraordinarily
> small. The CPU we put into the 100LX motherboard used 1/10 to 1/15 of the
> power consumption of normal mobile-application chips, and lower voltage -
> so heat was much much lower. RAM can be built today to run on nearly
> nothing. I think that 3 years ago, even 2 years ago, these limitations you
> mention were answered only by extreme design. Now the power consumptions
of
> items can be very low without heroics. However, these components are not
> mainstream - YET! This is a question of demand for the components, no
> longer a question of having to design and build them...
>
> Avi
>

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Is there any way to set the dictionary to work in full screen mode?

TIA.

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You should be disappointed, but for another reason: I _did_ post about this
two or three times. I think there was one or two questions, no more. It was
_I_ who was disappointed about the lack of interest then.

And as for production: The production schedule called for x machines. X
machines were produced, as ordered.

I _did_ try to get the design and drawings released to me to try to
organize some sort of manufacturing effort. Nogo. The man is simply and
categorically not interested in manufacturing, nor in being behind the
design or anything else in a public way.

Avi

At 4/19/02 -0400, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "A Meshar"
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:18 PM
>Subject: Re: oqo brick
>
>
> > But I have some other relevant experience. I used a machine along the
>lines
> > of Oqo a few months ago. A friend of mine commissioned a private design
> > along the lines of the "HP 260LX" which was literally invented in this
> > community (I can post again the initial April Fool's Day Announcement of
> > the HP 260LX which started it all.) A run of 25 was ordered and executed.
>I
> > used one for a few weeks, and it is everything that a 260LX was dreamed to
> > be, and then some. The Oqo is very similar to it.
> >
>
>And I'm disappointed that we are just learning of this!
>Designed by us.  Built and tested and no announcements.
>And, I guess, no production.  :-(
>Oh well.....
>bob
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Here is the text of the old-old "260LX Announcement":

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PALIO  ALTERNATE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 1st, 1997--
Hewlett-Packard Company today introduced the HP 260LX Palmtop
PC with Micro$oft(r) DOS 6.2, expanding to its award-winning
family of DOS Palmtop PCs.

HP leads the palmtop PC market by concentrating on key
customer needs, such as screen size, quality, total cost of
ownership, and a variety of operating systems.  The HP 260LX
offers such breakthrough features as a full-width,
16-greyscale, high-contrast screen with natural-white
backlight.  In late 1997, HP expects to further enhance its
palmtop PC line with the HP 260LXC, a color-display model.

"HP is a recognized leader in the palmtop PC category, having
now turned from Windozs CE to deliver a full-width, 640- x
240-pixel screen to the DOS market," said Dennis Hamann,
worldwide marketing manager of HP's Asia Pacific PC Division.
  "By advancing the role of the DOS palmtop and offering a new
color model, HP substantially advances its leadership
position in the handheld industry."

THE HP 260LX PALMTOP PC BREAKS GROUND

    Based on the DOS 6.2 operating system, the HP 260LX offers
corporate customers significant advantages in mobile
computing, including easy PC synchronization and
compatibility with familiar 3rd party business applications.

    HP will not need to deliver new software to manage the
HP 260LX palmtop PC as a component on the business,
scientific or educational environment.

    The ability to support fully mature software will lower a
corporation's total cost of ownership of computing products,
while giving network administrators a simple, standardized
means of managing the computing assets.

    Other advantages of the HP 260LX palmtop PC include the
high-contrast display with 16 grey shades, increasing
visibility and clarity.

    A month-view PIM has been standard for years.

    A dedicated storage slot for CompactFlash cards will leave
the PC card slot free for a modem connection.

    The HP260LX palmtop PC also comes with 16MB of RAM; 10MB
of ROM; and an improved Hornet chip with an integrated 80486
class processor, which significantly enhances performance and
speed.


HP'S GROWING PALMTOP PC FAMILY:  VALUE, PERFORMANCE AND COLOR

    HP secured and solidified its industry leadership with
products such as its scientific calculator, circa 1972, and
its DOS-based palmtop PCs.  HP took the handheld category
down a blind alley with the introduction of its Micro$oft
Windows CE-based palmtop PCs -- including the HP 320LX, the
first wide-screen, Windows CE palmtop PC. HP is no correcting
its admitted error by bringing the useful features of its HP
300LX series to the DOS environment.  Coming in late 1997,
HP's palmtop PC family will further advance the industry with
the addition of a color-display model, the HP 260LXC palmtop
PC.

AVAILABILITY, PRICING AND SUPPORT

    The HP 260LX palmtop PC is expected to ship in late 1997
and will be available through corporate resellers, as well as
retail locations.  The HP 260LX has an estimated street price
of $499 (U.S.).  The low initial price is intended to
apologize to the 200lx's loyal customer base for the foolish
foray into the WinCE OS.  It is backed by a ten-year unlimited
warranty that offers same-day, express-pickup-and-delivery
service.  HP's color-display palmtop PC, the HP 260LXC
palmtop PC, is expected to be available in early 1998.

    For owners of the popular, award-winning HP 200LX palmtop
PC, who purchased their units at any time, HP offers a free
260LX upgrade.  Information on HP's upgrade program and
additional information on HP palmtop PCs can be found on the
World Wide Web at http://www.hp.com/back_on_track, or by
calling 800/im-sorry.


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>  But today, I did get stumped my a simple little program on one of =
there units that replicated a mirror.  Anyone know of dos program that I =
can load and turn the lx's screen into a mirror?

Touch screen are more reflective, in my experience.  So, just blanking =
out the
screen the right way can make most any Palm or WinCE device a mirror.  No =
such
luck with a 200LX.  Just take them outside into the sun.  Then they won't =
be
ablr to see their screens, much less themselves in the screen <g>

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first,   please All note my new e-mail address (i dumped 'wanadoo' for being
impetent) [pun intended]

Tom: "I could not open OE at all because this spam was at the top and when
OE tried to show it in the preview pane it died"
...and someone: "The easy way out of this is to turn off the preview panel,
and then delete the item. I think it is under view / layout."

me thinks:
the other way may be to go to this Bill's Microsoft browser who's settings
are shared by OE, and change the 'connection' setting in 'options' to 'never
dial in'; i have to do this each time i receive a packet of spam.

Nathalie
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Date:         Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:43:11 +0100
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Hi gang,

it works, I can access to website of OQO with all working links.
There was a bug in my machine or in my mind...

Thank you to all.


Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Date:         Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:53:47 +0200
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Dear All,

>Avi Meshar wrote:
>Subject: Re: oqo brick

Seems like OQO stole IBM's MetaPad design and they try to push
it to the market without proper refinements. If Big Blue thought it
was already good enough, they would sell or license it! Pure mew
technology without ergonomics and quality assurance added is
worth nothing. IBM knows ergonomics and QA, so the LX owners
conscious on old H-P quality should probably wait.

>Second: About 3 years ago, I participated in a group of mostly
>computer engineers and computer manufacturer executives
>from Asia. The group had full designs ready for serious
>prototyping and preliminary market testing.

Did this became the Morphy One in Japan? That's a free design.

>Third: In 1996-1997 one of my customers rebuilt the HP100LX
>motherboard to contain a 486-look-alike cpu of their own design.

Would be really interesting, considering the Hornet (80186 core)
had 16-bit external bus! I would believe a 386SX upgrade (16bit ext.
/ 32bit int.), but not a 486 (32/32bit). Note that the 486SX is also
32/32bit processor, simply lacking an FPU.

I did ask Intel about the iSB60168 (Hornet IC) and they told me the
design is fully owned by H-P and they did return all docs to H-P,
after the fab production ended in late 1999.

Without docs, it seems to be a huge task to replace the Hornet
CPU in situ. Instead, I could imagine someone making a new CPU
for the 200LX, mounted on a PCMCIA card, as the LX's TypeII
socket allows for X-CPU mode. Even this would require one
significant engineering effort.

>That motherboard worked for 2 months at 100MHz on 3 AAA
>batteries.

Add to it a matching VGA or better screen and the uptime
becomes less than a working day. Add wireless networking and
you start looking for a wall AC socket, counting "ten-nine-eight ....."

>The power consumption of this screen is unusually small,
>extraordinarily small.

Except for the backlight.

>However, these components are not mainstream - YET!

All modern low-power components go into mobile phones, which
put the Morphy One project behind schedule numerous times.

Finally, until one shows me a 8000mAh reusable in AA size, I will
refrain from being enthusistic about any PDA beyond 386.
However the Compaq iPaq is very nice, it can save your life in case
of shipwrecking. Its strong backlight is reported to be seen from up
to 5nm. Just buy an "extreme sports" cover for it.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Gary Spiers wrote:
>
> For daytime use of a WinCE you need to purchase and carry around a
> Worthington (http://garys.hplx.net/LINDA98.htm second picture.)

Much too sophisticated (g)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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    Sent: 18/04/02 01:31:43
=AB
    Has anyone found a database on either Wince or Palm that comes =
anywhere
    near the database on the HPLX?
=BB

The LX database is a hard program to replace. I've tried most of the db =
programs for CE, but most suffer, IMO, from trying to be MS Access - not =
necessarily what you want on a palmtop (or desktop!).

I've settled for both HanDBase & ListPro. Each db requirement usually =
suggests one or the other. The former is definitely available on Palm =
too. I'm pretty certain the latter is.

On a slightly different topic, I'm jealous of Palm users because they =
have Life Balance by Llamasoft. It looks neat. Not a DB though - it's a =
todo manager.

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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:22:29 -0600 Jeff V <hplx@SIRVEISS.COM>posted:

>Could anyone who uses Buddy (or something similar) please post your type
>of palmtop (HP100/200, DS or not, 32M or not), type of batteries (Lithium,
>NiMH & mAh, NiCad, Alkaline, etc), any PC Cards used regularly, and how
>long those batteries usually last.

I have a 6MB DS 200lx using a 220MB Sandisk PCMCIA card.

With 1600mAh (Radio Shack, Panasonic, and Kodak) NiMH AA's I consistently
got ~10hrs from fully charged to 2.2v

I recently changed to 1800mAh Quest NiMH (by Harding Energy USA,
www.questbatteries.com) They are not commercially available as yet although
the site shows Walmart as a retailer. I got these with a fast charger
(2-3hr) as samples for work from Hadden Associates-LA, Ed Minchau,
714-731-5273. In my work setup I am getting 25-30% better time between
recharges.

On my 200lx I am getting ~14hrs from fully charged to 2.2v in the same 6MB
DS using a 220MB Sandisk PCMCIA card. So far I am very pleased.

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Hi Avi and all,

>You should be disappointed, but for another reason: I _did_ post about
this
>two or three times. I think there was one or two questions, no more. It
was
>_I_ who was disappointed about the lack of interest then.
>
>And as for production: The production schedule called for x machines. X
>machines were produced, as ordered.
>
>I _did_ try to get the design and drawings released to me to try to
>organize some sort of manufacturing effort. Nogo. The man is simply and
>categorically not interested in manufacturing, nor in being behind the
>design or anything else in a public way.

I'm very disappointed too.  That must have been before I had even heard
of this list.

That was a long time ago. You might get a very different reply to that
inquiry, now. What would it take to interest your friend in making
another small quantity of those 486's?  You should be able to get an
adequate amount of pre-paid orders for one of those 486s from this list.
I would be the first to pre-pay for one!

There is always a way around those kinds of obstacles.  It just requires
the right kind of incentive and compensation, that's all.

Exactly how many list subscribers would be willing to submit a pre-paid
order for one of the fore mentioned 486s, and how important is it to
them?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:21:09 +0100
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I am continuing to look for a reasonable mail client for my J720. I
have setup GoingPostal for 2 different ISP's (Compuserve and Netway)
and 2 mailboxes.

The dialup works as far as I can detect from the process echo's. The
connection to the mailboxes times out in every case. Where should I
start looking.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Le Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:21:09 +0100
HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> a icrit:

> The
> connection to the mailboxes times out in every case. Where should I
> start looking.

It seems to be similar to the well known problem about the lack of the
DCD line on some GSM<->PC cables.
After establishing the connexion, GP checks for this line, and exits if
it is low.

Is the serial connector of the HP-720 complete (9 lines) ?


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http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/index.html

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Well, the exciting adventures of HP Staber continue! You've decided to give the J720
another chance?

I am trying to use OL2LX to download my calendar to the lx. I get a .MAP file, not an .ADB
file. I also see a record counter, but I get no error message. I am using outlook.pst as
my input file.

HP, did you get OL2LX working? Thanks for your help.

Regards,
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-----Original Message-----
    From: "HP Staber" <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
    Sent: 19/04/02 05:33:58
=20
=AB
   4) You can use WinCE only at night. During the day you can hardly see
    anything on the screen.
=BB
 =20
Not a fault of WinCE. Loath as I am to defend anything MS, this is not =
their doing, it's a hardware issue.

My Jornada 568 has a reflective sidelit screen that's as good in direct =
sunlight as it is in a darkened room. Indeed, a backlit screen usable =
outdoors was one of the things that finally tempted me away from the =
200. I was so disappointed when the Thaddeus backlight project was =
shelved.

--=20
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Due to a brain malfunction, I was having difficulty synching my outlook calendar with my
lx using OL2LX. It indeed works well downloading a calendar from the desktop to the lx..

I finally figured it out:

1) Download and install OL2LX on the desktop.

2) Copy my "appt.adb" file from the lx to desktop. I use the LBL serial port network for
this.

3) Point OL2LX to "appt.adb". Specify "outlook to lx" conversion. Create a new file name,
"new.adb". Convert.

4) Copy "new.adb" to the lx. Test it.

5) If (4) looks good, rename "appt.adb" to "backup.adb", rename "new.adb" to "appt.adb".

6) Enjoy your outlook calendar on your lx!

I know this all may seem intuitvely obvious to most of you but I don't mind admitting that
it took a while for me to get this working.

Many thanks to Curtis Cameron for such a nifty utility.

Regards,
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At 4/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Avi and all,
>
> >You should be disappointed, but for another reason: I _did_ post about
>this
> >two or three times. I think there was one or two questions, no more. It
>was
> >_I_ who was disappointed about the lack of interest then.
> >
> >And as for production: The production schedule called for x machines. X
> >machines were produced, as ordered.
> >
> >I _did_ try to get the design and drawings released to me to try to
> >organize some sort of manufacturing effort. Nogo. The man is simply and
> >categorically not interested in manufacturing, nor in being behind the
> >design or anything else in a public way.
>
>I'm very disappointed too.  That must have been before I had even heard
>of this list.

Last year?

>That was a long time ago. You might get a very different reply to that
>inquiry, now.

Oh, it was not an inquiry, just a report of the fun we were having putting
the design together.


>What would it take to interest your friend in making another small
>quantity of those 486's?  You should be able to get an adequate amount of
>pre-paid orders for one of those 486s from this list. I would be the first
>to pre-pay for one!

I tried, and I think I have more influence on him than the list, the answer
was a categorical no. I stopped asking 4 refusals <g>...

>There is always a way around those kinds of obstacles.  It just requires
>the right kind of incentive and compensation, that's all.

Huh! This is a person who spent $95,000 to commission the design and
construction of 25 machines to give to his staff. I seriously doubt that we
can offer him any incentive. In the deal he closed before he began the
"260LX" project he made $5m as his fee - not exactly a pauper.

I offered various compensation, primarily that he needs to do NOTHING if he
does not want to. The answer was still no.

>Exactly how many list subscribers would be willing to submit a pre-paid
>order for one of the fore mentioned 486s, and how important is it to
>them?

Don't bother! I have nothing to offer, and will NOT take this list to
him.  4 refusals is enough of a certainty.

Avi


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Date:         Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:10:26 -0400
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Heh - I had one... Really the first?

I had a friend who borrowed it for a Chemistry exam, and programmed
his cheats/notes into it... Got real mad when I spilled the beans to
some AT&T/Western Electric employees during a HS field trip... ;^)

Ken

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> Here's some information on the PC-1.
>
> http://pocket.free.fr/index.html

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Hi Avi and all,

>>There is always a way around those kinds of obstacles.  It just
requires
>>the right kind of incentive and compensation, that's all.
>
>Huh! This is a person who spent $95,000 to commission the design and
>construction of 25 machines to give to his staff. I seriously doubt that
we
>can offer him any incentive. In the deal he closed before he began the
>"260LX" project he made $5m as his fee - not exactly a pauper.
>
>I offered various compensation, primarily that he needs to do NOTHING if
he
>does not want to. The answer was still no.

Hmm... Alright. So that specific avenue still seems to be closed... Could
there be a hidden detour?

How about the 2 other experiences you mentioned earlier:

>Third: In 1996-1997 one of my customers rebuilt the HP100LX motherboard
to
>contain a 486-look-alike cpu of their own design. We sent it to HP in
>Singapore with a proposal to use that chip in the sequel machine in the
LX
>family. That motherboard worked for 2 months at 100MHz on 3 AAA
batteries.
>HP ignored it since it was not invented in Singapore's labs, it could
not
>have been good :-( ...

How long has it been since you talked to him last?  Is it at all possible
that he might be interested in doing it with a small amount of HP200LXs
in the near future?

Either way, what would it take to make it worth his while?

>A year ago I saw a machine demonstrated the size of a 200LX which came
out
>of IBM. It was no longer in research, but instead being sold to
engineering
>companies that survey the insides of ships, oil rigs, and other huge
>structures. They use it to go into the spaces between the double hulls
of
>tankers, into the spaces in the "legs" of the oil rigs, etc, and inspect
>there the structure for fatigue, cracks, and other deformations and
>damages. The engineer-surveyor wears one of these IBM machines (486 at
>200MHz, plenty of memory, large disk, driving a holographic-like
display),
>crawls in, and works for a few hours, checking on CAD files from the
disk,
>to compare with reality, taking pictures with digital cameras, marking
>areas of concern or attention, and so on. IBM has been selling these
>puppies for 3-4 years already.

What exactly do these look like and how much do they cost?  Are they
still available for purchase by certain people or organizations?

If so, would that unit need to be modified to meet our needs which happen
to be a bit broader in scope?  If so, is there any possible cost
effective way that the unit could be modified to meet those needs?

Hearing about your related experiences and contacts, I couldn't help but
wonder if those opportunities were indeed fully tapped at the time or if
they might even now offer new opportunities?

As you can tell.  I'm not one to give up easily. I take pride in digging
deeper and being more persistent than most to look for hidden
opportunities within initially unsuccessful experiences... sometimes even
years later. ;-)

There's got to be a way...

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sun, 21 Apr 2002 02:39:35 -0400
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I know I would pay "a pretty penny" for a 486 palmtop like
my LX. It does amazing things for me, but a VGA 486 one
would be wonderful! Hell, I would be really happy with a
backlight. John, I might try to beat you out for first in
line to pay for this machine.

Dennis

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submit a pre-paid
order for one of the fore mentioned 486s, and how important
is it to
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Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> Well, the exciting adventures of HP Staber continue! You've decided to =
give the J720
> another chance?
>
> I am trying to use OL2LX to download my calendar to the lx. I get a =
.MAP file, not an .ADB
> file. I also see a record counter, but I get no error message. I am =
using outlook.pst as
> my input file.
>
> HP, did you get OL2LX working? Thanks for your help.

No, I did not. I am currently still carrying the LX and the J720 and want =
to
get "rid" of one.

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Jacques Belin wrote:
>
> > The
> > connection to the mailboxes times out in every case. Where should I
> > start looking.
>
> It seems to be similar to the well known problem about the lack of the
> DCD line on some GSM<->PC cables.
> After establishing the connexion, GP checks for this line, and exits if
> it is low.
>
> Is the serial connector of the HP-720 complete (9 lines) ?

I use the built in 56k modem of the J720 and the RJ11 socket. I could
send a test mail from CIS to Netway today, so the smtp of cis worked
however the pop's of both isp's did not. The finishing comments of
the online run were :

Mailhost CIS : Connection timed out
Mailhost Netway : unable to resolve pop server address

I double checked server names and authentication settings - they were
correct.

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On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 10:48:41 +0100, HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Mailhost CIS : Connection timed out
> Mailhost Netway : unable to resolve pop server address
>
> I double checked server names and authentication settings - they were
> correct.

What happens if you enter the IP addresses of the servers instead of
the names?

GTX
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I think the 260lx is an April Fools joke 3 weeks late.

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No, it is a 5 year old April Fool's Joke - if you read Avi's prior messages
you would have seen that the specs of the 260LX were a wish list put toegther
by the HPLX community back in 1997.

Avi's point of reposting it here was to show that much of this discussion is
rehashing old familiar ground.

GaryS

On Sunday 21 April 2002 06:05 am, Tom Salwasser wrote:
> I think the 260lx is an April Fools joke 3 weeks late.
>
> Tom
>
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Hi all,

I'm back under a new e-mail-address. Suffering from a lot of spam and trash, I finally changed my e-mail-address. So the former lennartz-mi@gmx.net now is news#migaro.de. My private address is m.lennartz#gmx.net.

I was in a hurry, so I didn't delete my _old_ address from the list. So please, Mr. Administrator, do this for me.

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Second attempt - first was rejected as too long - trimmed the quoted section
of blank lines and long signatures.

 think if I was Avi I would be quite upset with the tone of of your email. I
am not sure you intended it that way but here are a few things to consider:

1) Avi's business (not hobby) has been palmtops for far longer than many
people on this list. Given that until recently his income has depended on
this do you not think that he has almost certainly tried every avenue to get
a viable successor to the 200LX?

2) Even if every one of the 500 or so people subscribed to this list offered
to buy 3 LX successors at $2000 each it would not be sufficient to convince
anyone with the financial backing capable of developing and modifying a 486
improvement to the LX to proceed - the market is too small to provide a
reasonable return on investment.

3) You claim to be a dedicated chaser of possibilities but Avi has to hand
you information on a plate about prior attempts that he and others have made
to find an LX successor. Many of these attempts have been discussed
previously either in the HPLX list or HPHAND on Compuserve (pre HPLX list).
How many palmtop vendors have you contacted to lobby for an LX alternative?

4) Having been provided with information that IBM has an interesting device
available you ask for more information from Avi - did you do a web search to
try to find more information?

I apologise if this criticism sounds harsh but it was the opinion I formed as
I read the tone of your posting to the list.

GaryS

On Sunday 21 April 2002 02:35 am, John J Vander Stel wrote:
> Hi Avi and all,
>
> >>There is always a way around those kinds of obstacles.  It just requires
> >>the right kind of incentive and compensation, that's all.
> >
> >Huh! This is a person who spent $95,000 to commission the design and
> >construction of 25 machines to give to his staff. I seriously doubt that we
>
> >can offer him any incentive. In the deal he closed before he began the
> >"260LX" project he made $5m as his fee - not exactly a pauper.
> >
> >I offered various compensation, primarily that he needs to do NOTHING if he
>
> >does not want to. The answer was still no.
>
> Hmm... Alright. So that specific avenue still seems to be closed... Could
> there be a hidden detour?
>
> How about the 2 other experiences you mentioned earlier:
> >Third: In 1996-1997 one of my customers rebuilt the HP100LX motherboard to
>
> >contain a 486-look-alike cpu of their own design. We sent it to HP in
> >Singapore with a proposal to use that chip in the sequel machine in the LX
>
> >family. That motherboard worked for 2 months at 100MHz on 3 AAA batteries.
>
> >HP ignored it since it was not invented in Singapore's labs, it could not
> >have been good :-( ...
>
> How long has it been since you talked to him last?  Is it at all possible
> that he might be interested in doing it with a small amount of HP200LXs
> in the near future?
>
> Either way, what would it take to make it worth his while?
>
> >A year ago I saw a machine demonstrated the size of a 200LX which came out
> >of IBM. It was no longer in research, but instead being sold to engineering
> >companies that survey the insides of ships, oil rigs, and other huge
> >structures. They use it to go into the spaces between the double hulls of
> >tankers, into the spaces in the "legs" of the oil rigs, etc, and inspect
> >there the structure for fatigue, cracks, and other deformations and
> >damages. The engineer-surveyor wears one of these IBM machines (486 at
> >200MHz, plenty of memory, large disk, driving a holographic-like display),
> >crawls in, and works for a few hours, checking on CAD files from the disk,
> >to compare with reality, taking pictures with digital cameras, marking
> >areas of concern or attention, and so on. IBM has been selling these
> >puppies for 3-4 years already.
>
> What exactly do these look like and how much do they cost?  Are they
> still available for purchase by certain people or organizations?
>
> If so, would that unit need to be modified to meet our needs which happen
> to be a bit broader in scope?  If so, is there any possible cost
> effective way that the unit could be modified to meet those needs?
>
> Hearing about your related experiences and contacts, I couldn't help but
> wonder if those opportunities were indeed fully tapped at the time or if
> they might even now offer new opportunities?
>
> As you can tell.  I'm not one to give up easily. I take pride in digging
> deeper and being more persistent than most to look for hidden
> opportunities within initially unsuccessful experiences... sometimes even
> years later. ;-)
>
> There's got to be a way...
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan

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> (Reprinted without permission. For first-hand details, visit:
> http://www.oqo.com )
>
> -----
>
> Modular PC Downsizes the Computer

But is does not have a keyboard in that package size and weight.  And,
frankly, if its fonts are not much larger than those on the IBM PC110,
it will be hard on OLDER eyes (G)   Also, that screen seems very
unprotected from inadvertant damage.

What will the docking devices cost?

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> http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/index.html

A very interesting machine to tuck in a dayplanner (remember those?).

Too bad the battery life is still only on par with notebooks (2.5-4hrs).

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Hi Michael

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:46:23 +0200, "M. L." <news@MIGARO.DE> wrote:

> I was in a hurry, so I didn't delete my _old_ address from the list. So please, Mr. Administrator, do this for me.

You can easily do this yourself by sending a "change" command to the
list server.
address:  listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu
subject empty
body: change HPLX-L newemailaddress
(I believe).
If it's not correct, the list server will tell you so.

GTX
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Hi friends,

the discussions about HPLX replacements are slowly overtaking the
actual topic of this list - the HP LX palmtops.

So I think I should throw in a little success story about LX repairs:
This weekend I have repaired a few LX screens with missing pixel
columns. So far I have a success rate of ~60%, having attempted to
repair 7 screens, 4 of them are now working again.

So, don't lose your hope if pixel columns or even rows are
disappearing: There is a good chance that this can be repaired.

GTX
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> > http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/index.html
>
> A very interesting machine to tuck in a dayplanner (remember those?).
>
> Too bad the battery life is still only on par with notebooks (2.5-4hrs).
>

Yeah I noticed that too. I think that to keep a small size the battery had
to be made smaller. I wouldn't be surprized if with an extended battery the
life would double though.

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Tom Salwasser wrote:

After reinstalling OL2LX I got the conversion of contact info to work
properly

> Due to a brain malfunction, I was having difficulty synching my
> outlook calendar with my lx using OL2LX. It indeed works well
> downloading a calendar from the desktop to the lx..

Here this still does not work. The record counter counts the records =
during
exportation from OL to LX  but the target file appt.adb remains unchanged.

> I finally figured it out:
>
> 1) Download and install OL2LX on the desktop.

Done.

> 2) Copy my "appt.adb" file from the lx to desktop. I use the LBL serial
> port network for this.

I created a blank new file with CPACK.

> 3) Point OL2LX to "appt.adb". Specify "outlook to lx" conversion.
> Create a new file name "new.adb". Convert.

The record counter shows exportation but the target file remains
unchanged.

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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> > http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/index.html
>
> A very interesting machine to tuck in a dayplanner (remember those?).
>
> Too bad the battery life is still only on par with notebooks (2.5-4hrs).

Looks interesting. Do you think you can partition the 30gig yourself
and create a multiboot environment.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 10:48:41 +0100, HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> =
wrote:
>
> > Mailhost CIS : Connection timed out
> > Mailhost Netway : unable to resolve pop server address
> >
> > I double checked server names and authentication settings - they were
> > correct.
>
> What happens if you enter the IP addresses of the servers instead of
> the names?

I don't have the numerical server adresses apart from DNS1 and DNS2.
It is unlikely that the POP3 servers of two different ISP don't work at
the same time. I must have made something wrong on my side.

In any case I'm not very enthusiastic about working under PocketDOS. I
tested ROBOWEB/LX on the J720 again today and it is so slow that I
terminated the online run. It's close to useless.

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At 4/21/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Third: In 1996-1997 one of my customers rebuilt the HP100LX motherboard
>to
> >contain a 486-look-alike cpu of their own design. We sent it to HP in
> >Singapore with a proposal to use that chip in the sequel machine in the
>LX
> >family. That motherboard worked for 2 months at 100MHz on 3 AAA
>batteries.
> >HP ignored it since it was not invented in Singapore's labs, it could
>not
> >have been good :-( ...
>
>How long has it been since you talked to him last?  Is it at all possible
>that he might be interested in doing it with a small amount of HP200LXs
>in the near future?

That company went bust. It designed and prototyped chips.

> >A year ago I saw a machine demonstrated the size of a 200LX which came
>out
> >of IBM. It was no longer in research, but instead being sold to
>engineering
> >companies that survey the insides of ships, oil rigs, and other huge
> >structures. They use it to go into the spaces between the double hulls
>of
> >tankers, into the spaces in the "legs" of the oil rigs, etc, and inspect
> >there the structure for fatigue, cracks, and other deformations and
> >damages. The engineer-surveyor wears one of these IBM machines (486 at
> >200MHz, plenty of memory, large disk, driving a holographic-like
>display),
> >crawls in, and works for a few hours, checking on CAD files from the
>disk,
> >to compare with reality, taking pictures with digital cameras, marking
> >areas of concern or attention, and so on. IBM has been selling these
> >puppies for 3-4 years already.
>
>What exactly do these look like and how much do they cost?

$6,000-9,000 IIRC.


>Are they still available for purchase by certain people or organizations?

I think so. No idea how to find them. Try searching "IBM + Tanker +
portable computer" ???

>If so, would that unit need to be modified to meet our needs which happen
>to be a bit broader in scope?

It seems to me that what I saw was a generic machine running Windows and
CAD and so on, so I assume it could run MS-DOS 5, 6, Linux etc.

>Hearing about your related experiences and contacts, I couldn't help but
>wonder if those opportunities were indeed fully tapped at the time or if
>they might even now offer new opportunities?

I think (I hope! <G>) I am reasonably competent in tapping opportunities
with regards to sequels for the 200LX. Why would you wonder about it?


>As you can tell.  I'm not one to give up easily. I take pride in digging
>deeper and being more persistent than most to look for hidden
>opportunities within initially unsuccessful experiences... sometimes even
>years later. ;-)
>
>There's got to be a way...

Not always. One has to be also prepared to let go sometimes.

Avi


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The original 260lx post in 1997 was indeed an April Fools prank. But its
content captured the imagination and attention of many of us, because the
vision of the machine described was what we are yearning for.

Since then it fueled two efforts, and the Morphy, perhaps others too. There
have been also several developments by various sources - all of which
indicates that such a machine is possible to make technically, and possibly
from the marketability POV.

And the emergence a few days ago of the Oqo machine (see www.oqo.com or
www.dasoft.com/oqo for screenshots of oqo.com's website if you cannot get
the pages) further stokes the fires.

Avi

How do you like the sudden weather change? <G>

At 4/21/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I think the 260lx is an April Fools joke 3 weeks late.
>
>Tom
>
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Hi Gary,

(Gary is an old friend, very dear to me. We know each other well from the
D&A Beta, and from meeting face to face several times over the years. I
admire him beyond belief, and his jump to my defense is very sweet!)

At 4/21/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Second attempt - first was rejected as too long - trimmed the quoted section
>of blank lines and long signatures.
>
>think if I was Avi I would be quite upset with the tone of of your email.
>I am not sure you intended it that way but here are a few things to consider:

no, no - I decided to take it as just a real excited tone, not an attempt
to criticize.

>1) Avi's business (not hobby) has been palmtops for far longer than many
>people on this list. Given that until recently his income has depended on
>this do you not think that he has almost certainly tried every avenue to
>get a viable successor to the 200LX?

Yeah, I thought I was competent in that, so I just asked what made him
wonder about my ability to dog deep.

>2) Even if every one of the 500 or so people subscribed to this list
>offered to buy 3 LX successors at $2000 each it would not be sufficient to
>convince anyone with the financial backing capable of developing and
>modifying a 486 improvement to the LX to proceed - the market is too small
>to provide a reasonable return on investment.

Oh, you went deep into the analysis. We did it once and we think it'll take
anything from $1.5 to $15m to seed a successful manufacturing of such
machines, assuming we had a good design and some reasonable marketing. it
would take selling about 10,000 per year for about 3 to survive and break even.

>3) You claim to be a dedicated chaser of possibilities but Avi has to hand
>you information on a plate about prior attempts that he and others have
>made to find an LX successor. Many of these attempts have been discussed
>previously either in the HPLX list or HPHAND on Compuserve (pre HPLX
>list). How many palmtop vendors have you contacted to lobby for an LX
>alternative?

Oops, I did not see the request to hand over info and I am handing over
nothing. The last design is not mine to give. I helped in the job, but was
paid for my effort. The Asian group that fell, I was part of the design,
but I am only one vote among several and they ALREADY voted twice to NOT
release the designs and plans and rights. Which is actually goodness: It
seems to indicate that there is potentially some mood in the group to
revive it sometime. But this is speculation on my part. I did not put the
group together, so my influence in it is rather small.


>4) Having been provided with information that IBM has an interesting
>device available you ask for more information from Avi - did you do a web
>search to try to find more information?
>
>I apologise if this criticism sounds harsh but it was the opinion I formed
>as I read the tone of your posting to the list.

Gary, I have experienced how my own hackles rise in protest of similar
posts before (many times) and I understand the reaction you have. But I do
think that John just really got all excited and that his intent was not
that bad at all!

Avi


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At 4/21/02 +0000, you wrote:
> > (Reprinted without permission. For first-hand details, visit:
> > http://www.oqo.com )
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Modular PC Downsizes the Computer
>
>But is does not have a keyboard in that package size and weight.

Right! Tiny kbds can be acquired. I assume, but it is speculation only,
that they have, or could have, a software keyboard which you could tap and
use to input that way.

>And, frankly, if its fonts are not much larger than those on the IBM
>PC110, it will be hard on OLDER eyes (G)   Also, that screen seems very
>unprotected from inadvertant damage.

Good point: The IBM PC110 screen diagonal dimension is about 4.75". As fpr
protection, nah! This is probably a prototype, and they may have a cover
for it.

>What will the docking devices cost?

You don't need a docking station! The doc is probably something that has in
it cables for a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. They intend that you use
this as a PDA, and when in your office, for example, just connect to
full-size kbd, monitor and away you go.

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> > A very interesting machine to tuck in a dayplanner (remember those?).
> >
> > Too bad the battery life is still only on par with notebooks
(2.5-4hrs).
> >
>
> Yeah I noticed that too. I think that to keep a small size the battery
had
> to be made smaller. I wouldn't be surprized if with an extended battery
the
> life would double though.

In your original link, going to the Sony page for the Vaio and hitting the
"Look At Me" link gets a rotatable image.  There's a huge block under the
rear of the unit that looks suspiciously like an external battery.  If this
is integral to the unit's operation, then it's a might bit clunky.

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PCOM/PCG-U1/feat4.html

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Hans Peter,

> > > http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/index.html
> >
> > A very interesting machine to tuck in a dayplanner (remember those?).
> >
> > Too bad the battery life is still only on par with notebooks (2.5-4hrs).
>
> Looks interesting. Do you think you can partition the 30gig yourself
> and create a multiboot environment.

Yes, it is standard XP professional.

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Longden,

> Too bad the battery life is still only on par with notebooks (2.5-4hrs).

Here it is the VAIO SRX41P, which I consider for us to be one of the
best. (If you need a 15" display then this unit fails). The batterie of
what we experienced here, is about 5 hours and on an optional battery
about 9 hours. According to Sony this is achieved using the new LV
technology. The notebook didn't get warm as previous ones I used. The
display is excellent. I was in the process of buying one unit yesterday.

On the I-Link my JVC camcorder DVX70 is recognized, I could control the
camcorder, however no video data are transferred; btw same with a Canon
Camcorder. So I stuck in the discussion with may wife.

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Logden,

> In your original link, going to the Sony page for the Vaio and hitting the
> "Look At Me" link gets a rotatable image.  There's a huge block under the
> rear of the unit that looks suspiciously like an external battery.  If this
> is integral to the unit's operation, then it's a might bit clunky.

I am using a hp200lx DS 96 MB on a network (Accton 2216-1). What do you
think how long a pair of batteries (Sanyo 1700mA) last?

About 8 to 9 hours.

Compared to the VAIO using the extra powerpack, the VAIO doesn't look
that bad.

But on the VAIO you will miss instant on and ...

But the VAIO has backlight ..

It is a different machine for a different use.

Kind regards

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Hi Avi,

>>What exactly do these look like and how much do they cost?
>
>$6,000-9,000 IIRC.
>
>>Are they still available for purchase by certain people or
organizations?
>
>I think so. No idea how to find them. Try searching "IBM + Tanker +
>portable computer" ???

That was my point... that it might now offer new opportunities.

Thanks for the info.  I've put a search with that criteria on my "to do"
list for when I get back home, where I'll again have web access.  In the
meantime, if you happen to think of the name of the device or any other
relevant details that you would like to share, please let us know.

Who knows.  Maybe, since then, someone has gotten stuck with a bunch of
those since another company thought of a much more economical way to
accomplish that particular task or due to an advance in technology.

>>Hearing about your related experiences and contacts, I couldn't help
but
>>wonder if those opportunities were indeed fully tapped at the time or
if
>>they might even now offer new opportunities?
>
>I think (I hope! <G>) I am reasonably competent in tapping opportunities

>with regards to sequels for the 200LX. Why would you wonder about it?

I'm at a complete loss over how my above comment could have possibly
provoked such a defensive response.  It had nothing to do with
questioning _anyone's_ competence.

We all have recognized the opportunity presented in exchanging ideas and
thoughts with others who have similar interests by the very action we all
took in subscribing to the HPLX-L elist.

In that spirit, I'm merely expressing a desire to work with you by
helping you to possibly uncover new ideas that could come out of your
experiences that you felt were important enough to relate briefly in this
forum.

Sometimes this angle of approach is much more effective, efficient and
considerate than a series of requests for more raw details that the other
may not want to share for professional, personal or other reasons.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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At 4/21/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Avi,
>
> >>What exactly do these look like and how much do they cost?
> >
> >$6,000-9,000 IIRC.
> >
> >>Are they still available for purchase by certain people or
>organizations?
> >
> >I think so. No idea how to find them. Try searching "IBM + Tanker +
> >portable computer" ???
>
>That was my point... that it might now offer new opportunities.
>
>Thanks for the info.  I've put a search with that criteria on my "to do"
>list for when I get back home, where I'll again have web access.  In the
>meantime, if you happen to think of the name of the device or any other
>relevant details that you would like to share, please let us know.
>
>Who knows.  Maybe, since then, someone has gotten stuck with a bunch of
>those since another company thought of a much more economical way to
>accomplish that particular task or due to an advance in technology.
>
> >>Hearing about your related experiences and contacts, I couldn't help
> >>but wonder if those opportunities were indeed fully tapped at the
> time >>or if they might even now offer new opportunities?
> >
> >I think (I hope! <G>) I am reasonably competent in tapping opportunities
> >with regards to sequels for the 200LX. Why would you wonder about it?
>
>I'm at a complete loss over how my above comment could have possibly
>provoked such a defensive response.  It had nothing to do with
>questioning _anyone's_ competence.

So what exactly DID you mean by these words? I felt like you were saying
something like: You have been at it for awhile, and know of some
opportunities - are you sure you dug in as deep as possible? Are sure, Avi,
that you overturned every rock, knocked on every door? Perhaps there _are_
some places you have not dug in.

I assure you there ARE many places I did not go and doors I did not try to
open. I really use my best judgement at the time. Maybe there are places I
missed. I welcome anyone to go dig and open doors and try their own in
this, it seems to be a great opportunity that is waiting to be discovered.

>We all have recognized the opportunity presented in exchanging ideas and
>thoughts with others who have similar interests by the very action we all
>took in subscribing to the HPLX-L elist.
>
>In that spirit, I'm merely expressing a desire to work with you by
>helping you to possibly uncover new ideas that could come out of your
>experiences that you felt were important enough to relate briefly in this
>forum.

I would have liked this sentence much more  than the other one. Indeed like
Gary (and three others who wrote in private) that previous paragraph was
offensive to some degree, but I chose to ask why you said it.

Next step is this: If in the name of exchange of information and advancing
the "cause" you will prevail on my friends and associates again and again,
then no, I will not let you do it - I have stretched the friendships and
good will as far as they would go in my own attempts. I was rebuffed
unfortunately. So you do not get to share the names and emails of these
good folks <VBG>...

To the extent I am allowed to use proprietary information that belongs to
others, to further our "cause", I will. I already have, but maybe there are
things I have not thought about which I can still share. But I will not
betray the trust given to me and disclose what I am not at liberty to
disclose. I must place myself as the only judge of where the line is.

To the extent that I can use my brains to provide insight and ideas I will
do it to further our "cause". I always have done it in this forum and for
this community when I could.

>Sometimes this angle of approach is much more effective, efficient and
>considerate than a series of requests for more raw details that the other
>may not want to share for professional, personal or other reasons.

Thank you for the advice.

Avi


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Joe and all,

Circuit city carries a Monster Cable battery charger that includes 4 AA
NiMh 1800mah batteries for $39.95.  They also sell just the 4 pack of
batteries for $19.95.  Looks like a good setup.  Saw it the the digital
camera dept.    =Bob=

Joseph Buford wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:22:29 -0600 Jeff V <hplx@SIRVEISS.COM>posted:
>
> >Could anyone who uses Buddy (or something similar) please post your type
> >of palmtop (HP100/200, DS or not, 32M or not), type of batteries (Lithium,
> >NiMH & mAh, NiCad, Alkaline, etc), any PC Cards used regularly, and how
> >long those batteries usually last.
>
> I have a 6MB DS 200lx using a 220MB Sandisk PCMCIA card.
>
> With 1600mAh (Radio Shack, Panasonic, and Kodak) NiMH AA's I consistently
> got ~10hrs from fully charged to 2.2v
>
> I recently changed to 1800mAh Quest NiMH (by Harding Energy USA,
> www.questbatteries.com) They are not commercially available as yet although
> the site shows Walmart as a retailer. I got these with a fast charger
> (2-3hr) as samples for work from Hadden Associates-LA, Ed Minchau,
> 714-731-5273. In my work setup I am getting 25-30% better time between
> recharges.
>
> On my 200lx I am getting ~14hrs from fully charged to 2.2v in the same 6MB
> DS using a 220MB Sandisk PCMCIA card. So far I am very pleased.
>
> Joe
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Should be able - at least with partition magic.

I have a Vaio 7K (Win 2000)and my wife has a Vaio picturebook (Win ME).

I replaced 30gig drives in both and re-partitioned both. I put a
multi-boot on mine, but didn't try on the picture book.

Sony seems to somewhat standardize.

Bob


Looks interesting. Do you think you can partition the 30gig yourself
and create a multiboot environment.

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Hi Helmuth

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:35:38 +0200, "Helmuth E. Guenther" <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> But on the VAIO you will miss instant on and ...

It doesn't have suspend to RAM?
Do you have to boot it each time?
Or does it at least have suspend-to-disk?

GTX
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If one of these days you go through some places where you can buy some
things "fallen from the truck", check if you see someone trying to sell
an HP200LX (1994, hinge crack) with a 64Mb Samsung CF, try to recuperate
it (I can up to 150 Euros, anyway, but I think you can negotiate it for
far less than that with ignorant people <g>), and in any case contact me.

I was attacked last night by two guys, who stole me all I had in my
pockets : Cash, Blue Card, GSM phone, HP200, etc.... :-(


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Jacques, so sorry to hear you've been mugged. Are you ok?

Were you on a train or in an out-of-the-way place? I've always
imagined Paris to be a safe city.

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The Daily Greeting from my lx appointment book provides a nice
summary of the day's appointments in a condensed format.
Unfortunately, I can only see this once per day. Is there a way
to call up the Daily Greeting from the appointment book at other
times throughout the day? Thanks .

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Tom Salwasser wrote:

> The Daily Greeting from my lx appointment book provides a nice summary
> of the day's appointments in a condensed format. Unfortunately, I can
> only see this once per day. Is there a way to call up the Daily
> Greeting from the appointment book at other times throughout the day?
> Thanks .

I think Fn-* will pop it up again.

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Thanks for the suggestion Ian. It does not work on my machine,
any other ideas?

Tom
>
> I think Fn-* will pop it up again
>
 The Daily Greeting from my lx appointment book provides a nice
summary
of the day's appointments in a condensed format. Unfortunately,
I can
only see this once per day. Is there a way to call up the Daily
Greeting from the appointment book at other times throughout the
day?
Thanks .
.

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Is there a setting I can make in the cfg files that would allow
me to use an external editor (Q-Edit) to view my email in
POST/LX? by default? I already have the cfg set up to use Q-Edit
for composing email. Thanks.

Bob
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Tom,
Get this from SUPER:

GREET (3 KB) added 02/25/1997 (Productivity)
Version - latest by Andreas Garzotto

Offsite file: GREET contains two programs: one lets you set the time of the
daily greeting of the appointment book and the other will pop up the
greeting immediately. Freeware.

Best regards,
Owen

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Daniel,

> It doesn't have suspend to RAM?
> Do you have to boot it each time?
> Or does it at least have suspend-to-disk?

I didn't check that.

Kind regards

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:10:13 +0200, Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG> wrote:

> I was attacked last night by two guys, who stole me all I had in my
> pockets : Cash, Blue Card, GSM phone, HP200, etc.... :-(

Did this attack take place in Paris? Are you otherwise OK?
This must have been a terrible experience.

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Have a look at the tiny box OQO is promoting.  I find the possibilities for
this even-more-compact platform intriguing.  With serious enough hardware to
run Windows XP Professional, I still wonder what battery life will be like.

It's not available from anywhere yet, but they seem to have hopes for later
this year.  http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=1713, also at www.oqo.com,
but their own site relies too much on active content for my tastes.

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Funny, Fn-* works on my machine just fine.  Maybe it's a feature of Buddy?
A brief search of the Buddy documentation did not  find any proof that it
is, so maybe it is a firmware thing.

Alan Striegel

>From: Tom Salwasser [mailto:TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM]
>Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:46 AM
>
>Thanks for the suggestion Ian. It does not work on my machine,
>any other ideas?
>>
>> I think Fn-* will pop it up again
>>
> The Daily Greeting from my lx appointment book provides a nice
>summary
>of the day's appointments in a condensed format. Unfortunately,
>I can
>only see this once per day. Is there a way to call up the Daily
>Greeting from the appointment book at other times throughout the
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Funny, Fn-* works on my machine just fine.&nbsp; =
Maybe it's a feature of Buddy?&nbsp; A brief search of the Buddy =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;From: Tom Salwasser [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM">mailto:TomSalwasser@COMPUSER=
VE.COM</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:46 AM</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Thanks for the suggestion Ian. It does not work =
on my machine,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;any other ideas?</FONT>
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Unfortunately,</FONT>
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call up the Daily</FONT>
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times throughout the</FONT>
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     Well, I did find the place in the Buddy documentation.  It says
"Fn-STAR" calls up the daily greeting on demand.  I'd also like to apologize
for letting my e-mail client send HTML in the last couple of messages.

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> Joe and all,
>
> Circuit city carries a Monster Cable battery charger that
includes 4 AA
> NiMh 1800mah batteries for $39.95.  They also sell just the 4
pack of
> batteries for $19.95.  Looks like a good setup.  Saw it the
the digital
> camera dept.    =Bob=

The same thing costs $36.95 at Thomas Distributing
(www.thomasdistributing.com) and that's with Maha batteries
(they get the best results on recent tests posted on the net)
and the Maha c204-f charger, which the tests say is the best
charger.

And they throw in 4 of their very nice battery holders.  It
makes it real easy to carry a spare set of batteries in your
pocket.

Barry

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> Joe and all,
>
> Circuit city carries a Monster Cable battery charger that
includes 4 AA
> NiMh 1800mah batteries for $39.95.  They also sell just the 4
pack of
> batteries for $19.95.  Looks like a good setup.  Saw it the
the digital
> camera dept.    =Bob=

By the way they have the same thing with 1600 mAH batteries for
$30.

Barry

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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: New Viao smaller than Libretto just an inch wider
than 200LX


> > But on the VAIO you will miss instant on and ...
>
> It doesn't have suspend to RAM?
> Do you have to boot it each time?
> Or does it at least have suspend-to-disk?

I have an old Compaq Contura Aero laptop, made back when Compaq
was a high-end computer, although this was their low-end laptop.
It has a 486sx with VGA (there are color and mono models).

It weighs about the same as those tiny Sonys.  It's about the
same size. Maybe a little smaller but for sure a little thicker.
It weighs 3 pounds.  The mono one gets about 6.5 hours on an
extended battery.  The color one gets about 5.5 hours.

They're available on Ebay. You can probably get one on any given
day for $60 or $70 but I watched a lot of them go for as low as
$40.  I paid $40 for my mono one and $44 for my color one and
they're both like new.  The mono one even came with the docking
station.

This isn't going to replace the 200lx.  You'll have to be about
40 feet tall to have pockets big enough to carry it.  It does
have hibernate but it's not exactly instant on.  More like 45
seconds but everything is saved.

It's a pretty nice computer.  I use Dos 6.22 although one came
with Win31 and the other came with Win95.

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More and more e-mail I receive
duplicates the message body in HTML
code. Some even come as HTML attachment
only. So far I have saved the attacment
and opened it in HV. Is there a better
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> From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]On Behalf Of
> Barry
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: New Viao smaller than Libretto just an inch wider than
> 200LX
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:05 AM
> Subject: Re: New Viao smaller than Libretto just an inch wider
> than 200LX
>=20
>=20
> > > But on the VAIO you will miss instant on and ...
snip
> I have an old Compaq Contura Aero laptop, made back when Compaq
snip
> They're available on Ebay. You can probably get one on any given
> day for $60 or $70 but I watched a lot of them go for as low as
> $40.  I paid $40 for my mono one and $44 for my color one and
> they're both like new.  The mono one even came with the docking
snip
> have hibernate but it's not exactly instant on.  More like 45
> seconds but everything is saved.
>=20
> It's a pretty nice computer.  I use Dos 6.22 although one came
> with Win31 and the other came with Win95.

For a bit more cash ypu can get an omnibook 600c. I picked mine up on =
ebay for $70 shipped. It can be made to boot from a flash card. I have =
mine set up to boot win 95 from a 80 sandisk card and have software and =
other stuff installed on an additional 520 MD type III pcmcia drive. It =
does have a backlit color screen that uses a lot of juice. I get a few =
hours running in this config but the battery is used. I'm not sure how =
good it may be with a freshly built battery. It has a pretty good =
instant on feature (5 seconds or so). I can leave the machine off for a =
few weeks, pick it up and it'll resume right were I left off. I only =
reboot it when the OS needs it.

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Avi,
Not trying to push the envelope, but I searched the digest archives over the
last year, and I couldn't find (doesn't mean it wasn't there) a mention from
you about a potential "260LX".  Could you give me a little better time frame
when you tested it / posted a comment about it?  I'd like to look back and
see what you said then.  I can't believe that I missed it.

I'm sorry I didn't catch it when you mentioned it earlier.  Sorry too, that
the enthusiasm wasn't shown on the list then.  Or have I just gotten
confused with these posts and it really is another "April Fools prank".

While speaking of missed posts, didn't Jessica (?) who worked for MS promise
in December, to have an announcement for us in January?  Did I miss that as
well?  The organic memory chips are getting weaker by the day.

Thanks,
bob

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> The original 260lx post in 1997 was indeed an April Fools prank. But its
> content captured the imagination and attention of many of us, because the
> vision of the machine described was what we are yearning for.
>
And,
From: "A Meshar"
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:33 PM


> You should be disappointed, but for another reason: I _did_ post about
this
> two or three times. I think there was one or two questions, no more. It
was
> _I_ who was disappointed about the lack of interest then.
>

And,
From: "A Meshar"
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:18 PM

> But I have some other relevant experience. I used a machine along the
lines
> of Oqo a few months ago. A friend of mine commissioned a private design
> along the lines of the "HP 260LX" which was literally invented in this
> community (I can post again the initial April Fool's Day Announcement of
> the HP 260LX which started it all.) A run of 25 was ordered and executed.
I
> used one for a few weeks, and it is everything that a 260LX was dreamed to
> be, and then some. The Oqo is very similar to it.

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Bob Penick wrote:

> Not trying to push the envelope, but I searched the digest archives over the
> last year, and I couldn't find (doesn't mean it wasn't there) a mention from
> you about a potential "260LX".  Could you give me a little better time frame
> when you tested it / posted a comment about it?  I'd like to look back and
> see what you said then.  I can't believe that I missed it.

Me too!  I'm surely interested in the matter, but don't recall Avi's
post.  If I'd understood what was going on I'm pretty sure I would have
spoken up, so I'm curious to see why I missed it.

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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: New Viao smaller than Libretto just an inch wider
than 200LX

> For a bit more cash ypu can get an omnibook 600c.
> I picked mine up on ebay for $70 shipped. It can be
> made to boot from a flash card. I have mine set up
> to boot win 95 from a 80 sandisk card and have
> software and other stuff installed on an additional 520
> MD type III pcmcia drive. It does have a backlit color
> screen that uses a lot of juice. I get a few hours running
> in this config but the battery is used. I'm not sure how
> good it may be with a freshly built battery. It has a pretty
> good instant on feature (5 seconds or so). I can leave the
> machine off for a few weeks, pick it up and it'll resume
> right were I left off. I only reboot it when the OS needs it.

I wanted something for Dos and I know the 400 and 500 series
Omnibook aren't that good for Dos.  I didn't know what the 600
series was so I never thought to look for them.  I thought they
were just a plain vanilla laptop and I have a pretty good one
for Win98.

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PART 1

Dear Avi and especially everyone else here,

My first attempt to post this message failed since the post was rejected
by the list as having too many lines, so this is going out as 2 parts
since I feel that its important.

Its my hope that this post will finally put an end to the whole
misunderstanding, but If you must respond to this post, please read
both parts first.

First of all, I would like to thank Avi for not automatically assuming
the worst when there was speculation that my post somehow had an
offensive tone.  As Avi mentioned and correctly gathered from my history
of personal posts, I can indeed get excited when I see a possible
solution to a long time goal.  That's because it would be completely out
of character for me to sit on the sidelines and watch everyone else jump
to a task that I had the ability to do myself.  Please don't mistake my
enthusiasm for an offensive tone in the future.

>>We all have recognized the opportunity presented in exchanging idea
>>and thoughts with others who have similar interests by the very action
>>we all took in subscribing to the HPLX-L elist.
>>
>>In that spirit, I'm merely expressing a desire to work with you by
>>helping you to possibly uncover new ideas that could come out of your
>>experiences that you felt were important enough to relate briefly in
>>this forum.
>
>I would have liked this sentence much more  than the other one. Indeed
>like Gary (and three others who wrote in private) that previous
paragraph
>was offensive to some degree, but I chose to ask why you said it.

As I wrote earlier, I still don't understand how my original innocent
comments could have possibly been taken as having an offensive tone, but
sadly, its apparent that that did indeed happen.  I was simply attempting
to offer my help in coming up with new ideas based upon our collective
experiences.  That's all.

In fact, it was me who recently posted a big kudo to Avi for all he's
done for us all.  To take my comments as having anything other than a
positive tone would be putting me completely out of character in relation
to my history of posts here.

My apologies to those who did somehow mistake my earlier rather enthused
offer to help as having an offensive tone.

- continued -

Sincerely,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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Subject:      Re: oqo brick

PART 2

Dear Avi and especially everyone else,

>Next step is this: If in the name of exchange of information and
>advancing the "cause" you will prevail on my friends and associates
again
>and again, then no, I will not let you do it - I have stretched the
friendships
>and good will as far as they would go in my own attempts. I was rebuffed
>unfortunately. So you do not get to share the names and emails of these
>good folks <VBG>...

As Avi acknowledged in an earlier post, I never demanded anything from
him... and I didn't specifically ask for his private contact
information, either. I asked only for what information he felt
comfortable about sharing, if he could use my help. That's all.

In fact, the questions I asked didn't _require_ any specific answers.
They
were innocently meant to encourage the formation of new ideas.

Avi's private contacts are indeed his own.  It's not my place to impose
myself on his private contacts.  For further reference to my intent,
please
see my comments at the end of this email about my last comment in my
previous post.

>To the extent I am allowed to use proprietary information that belongs
>to others, to further our "cause", I will. I already have, but maybe
there
>are things I have not thought about which I can still share. But I will
not
>betray the trust given to me and disclose what I am not at liberty to
>disclose. I must place myself as the only judge of where the line is.

Again, I never asked Avi to betray his trust with anyone and I never
will.  I will _never_ betray anyone's trust, so it would be hipicritical
<sp?>
for me to ask someone else to do that.  That is another reason for the
last comment I made in my original post.  Sadly, its obviously that it
too
needs clarification.  Again, you'll find that at the end of this post.

>To the extent that I can use my brains to provide insight and ideas I
>will do it to further our "cause". I always have done it in this forum
and
>for this community when I could.

Thank you, Avi.  That's all I really asked for.

>>Sometimes this angle of approach is much more effective, efficient and
>>considerate than a series of requests for more raw details that the
>>other may not want to share for professional, personal or other
reasons.
>
>Thank you for the advice.

Avi, your reply here sounded like this was indeed the only comment of
mine which you didn't actually hesitate in taking it in a negative way.
I suspect that your interpretation of that last comment was finally
colored by all of the other earlier misunderstandings that managed to
snowball.

I hope that in light of my clarifications thus far and after again
reviewing the above quoted comment, everyone would now take that comment
in its intended tone.  It was not intended as advise, by any stretch of
the imagination!

It was none other than an explanation of why _I_ didn't intend to send a
series of requests for raw details to _Avi_.  It was _my_ attempt to
explain that _I_ was trying to be considerate of _Avi_ by not posting a
series requests for raw details that _Avi_ might not have wanted to share
for professional, personal or other reasons.

That's why public speculation of me blatantly demanding personal contact
information left me literally speechless. :-(

I hope that the above clarification of my earlier comments will finally
put a stop to all of the speculation on the elist about an alleged
offensive tone.  For the last time, my posted comments may have reflected
my enthusiasm as Avi surmised, but they were merely an offer of my help
and that was all.  Any kind of imagined offensive tone was _never_
intended.

Now... can we all put this whole misunderstanding behind us and start
working together again?

Sincerely,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan


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Jacques Belin wrote:
>
> I was attacked last night by two guys, who stole me all I had in my
> pockets : Cash, Blue Card, GSM phone, HP200, etc.... :-(

Sorry to hear that. Hope you are OK.


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bobv wrote:
>
> I have a Vaio 7K (Win 2000)and my wife has a Vaio picturebook (Win ME).
>
> I replaced 30gig drives in both and re-partitioned both. I put a
> multi-boot on mine, but didn't try on the picture book.

Sounds good, thanks. Went to see if I can find one but failed.
Currently only the "big" Vaios available ;-)

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Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:
>
> More and more e-mail I receive
> duplicates the message body in HTML
> code. Some even come as HTML attachment
> only. So far I have saved the attacment
> and opened it in HV. Is there a better
> shortcut?

Put the following line into the [SYSTEM] section of post.cfg

PNS=3Dc:\tools\maxdos.com c:\tools\pns200.exe

and make sure that pns200.ini identifies HV.EXE as loader for htm
files. This should allow you to open the htm file immediately.

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From:         A Meshar <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: 260LX - was "oqo brick"
Comments: To: Bob Penick <bnj@MYREALBOX.COM>
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I do not think I called it 260Lx or anything...

At 4/22/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Avi,
>Not trying to push the envelope, but I searched the digest archives over
>the last year, and I couldn't find (doesn't mean it wasn't there) a
>mention from you about a potential "260LX".  Could you give me a little
>better time frame when you tested it / posted a comment about it?  I'd
>like to look back and see what you said then.  I can't believe that I
>missed it.

Yeah, I really do not recall when it was. Sorry.

>I'm sorry I didn't catch it when you mentioned it earlier.  Sorry too,
>that the enthusiasm wasn't shown on the list then.  Or have I just gotten
>confused with these posts and it really is another "April Fools prank".

Not sure if the enthusiasm would have helped. Maybe yes, because the guy
was still on the list then.

>While speaking of missed posts, didn't Jessica (?) who worked for MS
>promise in December, to have an announcement for us in January?  Did I
>miss that as well?  The organic memory chips are getting weaker by the day.

I did not follow this carefully. I recall something vaguely.


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 > > Modular PC Downsizes the Computer
>
>But is does not have a keyboard in that package size and weight.

Right! Tiny kbds can be acquired. I assume, but it is speculation only,
that they have, or could have, a software keyboard which you could tap and
use to input that way.


If it runs WXP, Professional ?  WXProf has an on skreen keyboard....

yor pal al...........



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      _.>/)_
     (_) \(_)
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<P>&nbsp;&gt; &gt; Modular PC Downsizes the Computer<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;But is does not have a keyboard in that package size and weight.<BR><BR>Right! Tiny kbds can be acquired. I assume, but it is speculation only,<BR>that they have, or could have, a
software keyboard which you could tap and<BR>use to input that way.</P>
<P><BR>If it runs WXP, Professional ?&nbsp; WXProf has an on skreen keyboard....</P>
<P>yor pal al...........
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Jacques,

J'en suis disoli. I do hope you were not injured, and that you succeed in
getting it back, one way or another. If not, I would be happy to contribute
towards a replacement, if you don't mind.

Richard




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Belin" <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: Note for the French (Parisians) friends...


> If one of these days you go through some places where you can buy some
> things "fallen from the truck", check if you see someone trying to sell
> an HP200LX (1994, hinge crack) with a 64Mb Samsung CF, try to recuperate
> it (I can up to 150 Euros, anyway, but I think you can negotiate it for
> far less than that with ignorant people <g>), and in any case contact me.
>
> I was attacked last night by two guys, who stole me all I had in my
> pockets : Cash, Blue Card, GSM phone, HP200, etc.... :-(
>
>
> Jacques.
>
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I would like to know if anyone is aware of a program which allows you to =
view PDF files on the 200LX.  Is there an earlier version of Acrobat =
that is DOS compatible?

I have tried to use PDF2Text.exe to convert a PDF file to text mode but =
couldn't get it to work.  SUPER says that you need DPMI which apparently =
I don't have.  Do you know where I can obtain DPMI?

David

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to know if anyone is aware =
of a=20
program which allows you to view PDF files on the 200LX.&nbsp; Is there =
an=20
earlier version of Acrobat that is DOS compatible?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have tried to use PDF2Text.exe to =
convert a PDF=20
file to text mode but couldn't get it to work.&nbsp; SUPER says that you =
need=20
DPMI which apparently I don't have.&nbsp; Do you know where I can obtain =

DPMI?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Barry,

Looks similiar.  BTW, what is the shipping cost?    =Bob=

Barry wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Newins" <bnew@ATTBI.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Battery Life
>
> > Joe and all,
> >
> > Circuit city carries a Monster Cable battery charger that
> includes 4 AA
> > NiMh 1800mah batteries for $39.95.  They also sell just the 4
> pack of
> > batteries for $19.95.  Looks like a good setup.  Saw it the
> the digital
> > camera dept.    =Bob=
>
> The same thing costs $36.95 at Thomas Distributing
> (www.thomasdistributing.com) and that's with Maha batteries
> (they get the best results on recent tests posted on the net)
> and the Maha c204-f charger, which the tests say is the best
> charger.
>
> And they throw in 4 of their very nice battery holders.  It
> makes it real easy to carry a spare set of batteries in your
> pocket.
>
> Barry
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ILGRadio http://www.ilgradio.com has just released the April 20
(summer) edition of their database.

I have ported this latest update to .GDB format, complete with
subsets for UTC of Broadcast.
If you are a shortware listener or Amateur Radio Operator and
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Having been the person that started this snowball rolling I wish to say that
I wholeheartedly apologise for misconstruing John's intensions and for second
guessing Avi.

Having participated in fora for more than a decade now I have learnt to avoid
controversial statements/discussions as they inevitably are a result of  or
lead to a misunderstanding. My post was a major lapse of judgment on my part
and I'd like to blame it on posting before the first cup of coffee for the
day but there really is no excuse. The final apology is for the tardiness of
my apology - I have little free time these days and other activities won out
over reading and replying to hplx messages.

On a lighter note, my wife has expressed concern at the use of the term
'sweet' :-) (Avi and Joan have met on a few occasions).

GaryS


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> PART 2
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> Barry,
>
> Looks similiar.  BTW, what is the shipping cost?    =Bob=

It's $5.97 for USPS priority insured or for UPS ground.

They also have a $3.97 adapter so you can use the charger in the
car.  I got that with mine but I haven't used it yet.

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At 4/22/02 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@lidar.com> wrote:
>On a lighter note, my wife has expressed concern at the use of the term
>'sweet' :-) (Avi and Joan have met on a few occasions).

Good. Let her be concerned and be nice to you! (I know she is crazy about
you. She told me two or three times when you walked away or were in the
other room...) Well, I used the terms because it touched me how you were
concerned. Give Joan and the girls a big hug for me.


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> Subject: Re: New Viao smaller than Libretto just an inch wider than 200LX
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:16:29 -0500
> From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
>

> I wanted something for Dos and I know the 400 and 500 series
> Omnibook aren't that good for Dos.  I didn't know what the 600
> series was so I never thought to look for them.  I thought they
> were just a plain vanilla laptop and I have a pretty good one
> for Win98.
>
> Barry

Barry
Did you consider the Omnibook 430? 486-25 with 4 PCMCIA slots.
One slot is for the C: drive, they work real well with flash memory
cards.
One slot is for D: drive which has DOS on it (6.2?).
Runs for hours off a rechargeable battery pack or 4 AA cells. Good
keyboard (no number pad) and good VGA display (no backlight). One
serial, one parallel, one IR port.
I have the Omnibook 425 which is the same except for the addition of
several applications to the D: drive ROM. I have Word, Excel, HP
calculator, HP PIM, DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 all safely burned into a
chip where I can't bugger them up. It hardly ever crashes (especially if
I avoid Windows) and if it does give me trouble I can reinstall
everything from the D: ROM in about 15 minutes.
I've installed CPACK on it so now it looks and works just like an
overgrown 200LX. I can open the PIM data files transferred from the
palmtop (but I can only open one thing at a time).
I wonder if software carousel would work....
I believe serious DOS types like the 430 better because it doesn't
clutter up your RAM with all the built in applications.
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Subject: Re: Laptop for DOS, how about Omnibook 430?


> Did you consider the Omnibook 430? 486-25 with 4 PCMCIA slots.
> One slot is for the C: drive, they work real well with flash
memory
> cards.
> One slot is for D: drive which has DOS on it (6.2?).
> Runs for hours off a rechargeable battery pack or 4 AA cells.
Good
> keyboard (no number pad) and good VGA display (no backlight).
One
> serial, one parallel, one IR port.
> I have the Omnibook 425 which is the same except for the
addition of
> several applications to the D: drive ROM. I have Word, Excel,
HP
> calculator, HP PIM, DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 all safely burned
into a
> chip where I can't bugger them up. It hardly ever crashes
(especially if
> I avoid Windows) and if it does give me trouble I can
reinstall
> everything from the D: ROM in about 15 minutes.
> I've installed CPACK on it so now it looks and works just like
an
> overgrown 200LX. I can open the PIM data files transferred
from the
> palmtop (but I can only open one thing at a time).
> I wonder if software carousel would work....
> I believe serious DOS types like the 430 better because it
doesn't
> clutter up your RAM with all the built in applications.

I believe these all restrict you to less than enough memory in
dos to do much with.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:06:26 -0700
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> > Did you consider the Omnibook 430? 486-25 with 4 PCMCIA slots.
> > One slot is for the C: drive, they work real well with flash
>
> I believe these all restrict you to less than enough memory in
> dos to do much with.

On my 430 I have 597K conventional memory free. It's a 486 so
himem and emm386 can be used for UMB and extended memory too. I
don't know about the 425.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:31:11 +0200
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Acrodos (DOS version of acrobat reader) needs VGA and 386 so it can't run
on 200lx. You can convert
PDF to PCX on your desktop using ghostscript. But I never tried it yet,
this is the info I have got here some time ago.

Radek





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I would like to know if anyone is aware of a program which allows you to
view PDF files on the 200LX.  Is there an earlier version of Acrobat that
is DOS compatible?

I have tried to use PDF2Text.exe to convert a PDF file to text mode but
couldn't get it to work.  SUPER says that you need DPMI which apparently I
don't have.  Do you know where I can obtain DPMI?

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Subject: Re: Laptop for DOS, how about Omnibook 430?


> > > Did you consider the Omnibook 430? 486-25 with 4 PCMCIA
slots.
> > > One slot is for the C: drive, they work real well with
flash
> >
> > I believe these all restrict you to less than enough memory
in
> > dos to do much with.
>
> On my 430 I have 597K conventional memory free. It's a 486 so
> himem and emm386 can be used for UMB and extended memory too.
I
> don't know about the 425.

Do you have that free in Dos?  I had always heard there was a
limit of about 430k or some such.

Anyway I've already got the Aero and spent my money and I'm ok.
I did kind of like those omnibooks though.  :)

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Le Mon, 22 Apr 2002 05:08:17 -0500
Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> a icrit:

> Jacques, so sorry to hear you've been mugged. Are you ok?

Yes, no great problems.

> Were you on a train or in an out-of-the-way place?

It was in the street.

> I've always imagined Paris to be a safe city.

Some frenchs think the opposite (see our presidential campaign, where
the security subject has eclipsed all the rest, we see the result now...)

And as all cities, you have places less secure than others in Paris.

I have passed years walking through "hot" places by night without any
problem, and was attacked in a street I considered as far more calm...


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I'm glad you were not seriously injured. Best wishes on getting
your life back in order.

> > Jacques, so sorry to hear you've been mugged. Are you ok?
> Yes, no great problems.
>

Yes, the success of Mr. Le Pen is front page news in the US.

> > I've always imagined Paris to be a safe city.
> Some frenchs think the opposite (see our presidential
campaign, where
> the security subject has eclipsed all the rest, we see the
result now...)
>

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> Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:
> >
> > More and more e-mail I receive
> > duplicates the message body in HTML
> > code. Some even come as HTML attachment
> > only. So far I have saved the attacment
> > and opened it in HV. Is there a better
> > shortcut?
>
> Put the following line into the [SYSTEM] section of post.cfg
>
> PNS=3Dc:\tools\maxdos.com c:\tools\pns200.exe
>
> and make sure that pns200.ini identifies HV.EXE as loader for htm
> files. This should allow you to open the htm file immediately.
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
>

Thanks, I'm trying it. But will this only
work under System Manager? Not in pure
Dos?


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> > PNS=c:\tools\maxdos.com c:\tools\pns200.exe
> >
> > and make sure that pns200.ini identifies HV.EXE as loader for htm
> > files. This should allow you to open the htm file immediately.
> >
> > HP Staber/Salzburg
> >
>
> Thanks, I'm trying it. But will this only
> work under System Manager? Not in pure
> Dos?

Did you try it?

It works under SYSMGR as well as under pure DOS.

Kind regards

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> > > PNS=3Dc:\tools\maxdos.com c:\tools\pns200.exe
> > >
> > > and make sure that pns200.ini identifies HV.EXE as loader for htm
> > > files. This should allow you to open the htm file immediately.
> > >
> > > HP Staber/Salzburg
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, I'm trying it. But will this only
> > work under System Manager? Not in pure
> > Dos?
>
> Did you try it?
>
> It works under SYSMGR as well as under pure DOS.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth

So far: if I look at a message in POST
with a html attachment Ctrl-M gives me
the choice to open the attacment. From
there HV opens with my regular start
page.

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Wed, 24 Apr 2002 00:57:55 +1200 (NZT)

45m13s ago ...
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:12:42 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:

> So far: if I look at a message in POST with a html attachment
> Ctrl-M gives me the choice to open the attacment.

Tha's good Lillebjorn, I think that means you have the
pns200.ini set up correctly to launch HV.

> From there HV opens with my regular start page.

Make sure you have an explicit TmpDir in your POST.CFG
[SYSTEM] section, like this for example:

TmpDir=c:\tmp

Hope this helps - if it doesn't let us know.

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The OB 300 has limitations because it MUST boot from the ROM card =
(similar to the LX) however, unlike the LX, there are TSRs loaded from =
the ROM card that take up a whole lot of convenional RAM. There is a =
commercial app (I forget the name) that gouges out the TSRs from memory =
by force and gives you the RAM back. I think it winds up disabling the =
power management and instant-on features. I don't know why they were =
able to have auto sleep and instant on with the LX and not the OB300. It =
seems the the omnibooks were inspired by the LX palmtops. My OB 300 is =
like a big 200lx with a nice keyboard and a paw mouse.

I'm not sure how any of this applies to the 486 classic omnibooks. The =
600c is a lot more like a modern laptop in that it will boot to any OS =
and has a backlit 800x600 color VGA screen. It does have the instant =
on/off feature when you run windows and have the apropriate drivers =
loaded. Unfortunately, there are no linux drivers for the 600c so you =
can't use the inst-on or the propietary PCMCIA slot with it.



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> Barry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:04 AM
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>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Kopplin" <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Laptop for DOS, how about Omnibook 430?
>=20
>=20
> > > > Did you consider the Omnibook 430? 486-25 with 4 PCMCIA
> slots.
> > > > One slot is for the C: drive, they work real well with
> flash
> > >
> > > I believe these all restrict you to less than enough memory
> in
> > > dos to do much with.
> >
> > On my 430 I have 597K conventional memory free. It's a 486 so
> > himem and emm386 can be used for UMB and extended memory too.
> I
> > don't know about the 425.
>=20
> Do you have that free in Dos?  I had always heard there was a
> limit of about 430k or some such.
>=20
> Anyway I've already got the Aero and spent my money and I'm ok.
> I did kind of like those omnibooks though.  :)
>=20
> Barry
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Together with Dzon we found some interesting results according performance
comparision of DS 200lx's

There can be a significant difference depending on used driver.

We compared CLK32UP.SYS and SPD31.EXE v 2.0

200lx with clk32up.sys is about 12% faster than with SPD31.EXE - this
includes CPU
and display performance

It was measurred with Checkit, and then I measured a time how much takes
to compress
the same file with PKZIP. Results vere very similar to Checkit: 29.5 /
32.5 seconds.


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Hello all,

US SANDIA National Laboratories promotes its revolutionary LEDs for
generic lighting purposes. Maybe of interest to Daniel Hertrich and other
palmtoppers with serial port lights.

http://www.sandia.gov/media/NewsRel/NR2002/LEDS2.htm

http://lighting.sandia.gov/

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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> So far: if I look at a message in POST
> with a html attachment Ctrl-M gives me
> the choice to open the attacment. From
> there HV opens with my regular start
> page.

Here is my setup (pns200.exe is in the path c:\bin):

post.cfg

[SYSTEM]
...
PNS=c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\bin\pns200.exe
TmpDir=c:\tmp
...

in the directory c:\_dat I have

pns200.ini

[Match]
...
*.*=echlpvmrsx

[Menu]
....
h=HTML page open

....

[Action]
...
h=c:\bin\maxdos.com "c:\www\hv.exe %s"

When I press Ctrl-M open the menue comes up. Next I press h for HTML
and this opens the html message or attachement.

Kind regards

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> Wed, 24 Apr 2002 00:57:55 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 45m13s ago ...
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:12:42 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:
>
> > So far: if I look at a message in POST with a html attachment
> > Ctrl-M gives me the choice to open the attacment.
>
> Tha's good Lillebjorn, I think that means you have the
> pns200.ini set up correctly to launch HV.
>
> > From there HV opens with my regular start page.
>
> Make sure you have an explicit TmpDir in your POST.CFG
> [SYSTEM] section, like this for example:
>
> TmpDir=3Dc:\tmp
>
> Hope this helps - if it doesn't let us know.
>
> - Tony

I still get my start page. When I check
my c:\tmp directory I find a post.tmp
mith the message and a msg.htm with the
attachment.

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> > On my 430 I have 597K conventional memory free. It's a 486 so
> > himem and emm386 can be used for UMB and extended memory too.
> > I don't know about the 425.
>
> Do you have that free in Dos?  I had always heard there was a
> limit of about 430k or some such.

Maybe that's the 300.

From mem

 Largest executable program size    597K   (611,264 bytes)
 Largest free upper memory block     32K    (32,752 bytes)

with 70,096 bytes total UMB still free.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:13:54 +0200
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Hi Radek

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:18:34 +0200, Radek Svagr <radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM> wrote:

> We compared CLK32UP.SYS and SPD31.EXE v 2.0

Interesting!

Would you please also check the performance with Stefan Peichl's
dspeed?

CLK32UP is for real 32MHz quartzes, SPD31 for the Times2Tech 31.xxx MHz
quartz (this one has exacly 2* the speed of the original quartz, which
has 15.xxx MHz. So these two drivers probably handle timings differently.
Have you tried with 32MHz or with the TechSpeed upgrades?
Did all time-sensitive peripherals (PCMCIA slot, IR, serial port) work
well with both drivers?

There is also said to be a speed increase if you turn the LCD off while
the LX is working (this can be done using the SPD31 driver with a
hotkey, or using an external program available on SUPER). That means,
refreshing the screen takes up processor time.

GTX
daniel


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Hi all!

Most of these messages were posted to the list, but I figured I'd sum
them up here.  There's some really interesting comments and I'd like to
thank everyone who contributed.

-----------------------

Original Posting:
> Could anyone who uses Buddy (or something similar) please post your type
> of palmtop (HP100/200, DS or not, 32M or not), type of batteries (Lithium,
> NiMH & mAh, NiCad, Alkaline, etc), any PC Cards used regularly, and how
> long those batteries usually last.

-------
From: Victor Roberts <RobertsV@earthlink.net>

I have a 2X, 32MB 200LX with an 80MB Sandisk CF card. I use
old NiMH batteries that I think are rated at 1200mahr. (They
were purchased from Thaddeus some time ago.) I normally get 5
to 6 Buddy hours per charge. In my old 1X, 1MB, 100LX these
same batteries would give about 12 to 16 Buddy hours. I
believe this reduction in battery time is normal for two
reasons. First, when I am working, the LX is working twice as
fast as my old 1X machine. On that basis alone I should expect
6 to 8 hours from these batteries in a 2X machine. The other
issue is that the 32MB upgrade has changed the way I use my
LX. I use the 32MB LX for more CPU-intensive activities than I
used the 1MB 100LX for. This means less "idle" time and more
power consumption.

When I first got my 95LX I played Tetris a lot and used up a
pair of alkaline batteries in just a few hours, vs. over 20
hours for "normal" operation of the 95LX with alkaline
batteries.

--------
From: Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@pandora.be>

I'm using NiMH 1600 rechargeables. I seem to go from 2.8v to
2.25 in 6 to 9 hours, occasional modem and network card usage.
All as shown by Battlog.

--------
From: Alchemija <alchoma@is.lt>

OK, I use Buddy on HP100LX SS with permanent CF 32 M, earlier - with
20 M Flash card.
The time vary depending on batt. tipe. As earlier the internal DC
circuit did not worked and I had to charge batteries "off board" so I
made a dbase of batteries time used. So the longest time was on NiHm
1600 - it was up to 32 hours, avg. 25~26 h.
Besides I've noticed that when rechargable batteries are used I marked
them as "alkalines" in setup, so low batt warning came up at lower
voltage - thus longer batt. useage.

--------
From: "James P. Grenert, MD, PhD" <grenert@yahoo.com>

I have a 5 MB doublespeed 200LX which is used 100% of the time with a Sandisk
48 MB compact flash card.  I use Times2Tech/Thaddeus NiMH batteries and get
around 8-10 hours use before the voltage drops below 2.40 V, at which point I
usually recharge.  Note that this is still above the voltage where the "MAIN
BATTERY LOW" warning comes on.  For me, 8-10 hours is long enough to still be
convenient, but not so long that I worry about having the batteries fail.

If I turn off the battery warnings with the doublespeed driver and let them
drain to about 2.12 V, I can get 18-20 hours use.  Although this is obviously
risky, I haven't had problems with crashes or bad flash card writes in my
system.  I use Buddy to turn off the serial port; don't know how much power
this saves.


Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at
jvmail@sirveiss.com.  Thank you very much!

Jeffrey Veiss, CCNA, CISSP, TICSA             Sir Veiss, Inc.
Network Engineer/System Administrator         jvmail@sirveiss.com

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>  Largest executable program size    597K   (611,264 bytes)
>  Largest free upper memory block     32K    (32,752 bytes)
>
> with 70,096 bytes total UMB still free.

That's not bad.

Barry

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What are the specs of the crystal for the 200LX?  I want to try the
double-speed modification, but want to make sure I get the right crystal.
I've already had a look inside and the crystal looks like one of the little
watch crystals, but I gather that the 32.xxx kHz watch crystals are not the
right ones, that it should be a 32.xxx MHz crystal?

Thanks!

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The short answer is no.

I don't want to sound snooty about it, but this thread has been around
several times before. Search the list archives on "PDF". There are some web
sites which will do PDF-> text translation for you. Again, search the list
archives. Lastly, there is a mainly Unix (?) program called GhostScript that
had an earlier DOS version that might be useable. They also have a PDF->Text
converter. Comments about Ghostscript are, likewise, in the archives.

Bob

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I would like to know if anyone is aware of a program which allows you to
view PDF files on the 200LX.  Is there an earlier version of Acrobat that is
DOS compatible?

I have tried to use PDF2Text.exe to convert a PDF file to text mode but
couldn't get it to work.  SUPER says that you need DPMI which apparently I
don't have.  Do you know where I can obtain DPMI?

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Hi Stephanie

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:28:55 -0400, Stephanie Maks <va3uxb@MAKSYSTEMS.COM> wrote:

> What are the specs of the crystal for the 200LX?  I want to try the
> double-speed modification, but want to make sure I get the right crystal.
> I've already had a look inside and the crystal looks like one of the little
> watch crystals, but I gather that the 32.xxx kHz watch crystals are not the
> right ones, that it should be a 32.xxx MHz crystal?

The original Times2Tech Techwpeed crystal is a 31.673 MHz quartz.

And be sure not to use a quartz which has that frequency as one of its
harmonics, but as the base frequency. Otherwise you will make your
palmtop much sloooooower! I once tried to use such a "32MHz" quartz,
but its base frequency seems to have been something like 4 MHz. I
wondered why the palmtop went at about 1/4 of its original speed!

:-)

GTX
daniel

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On 04-23 01:11pm CDT,

> Hi Stephanie
>
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:28:55 -0400, Stephanie Maks <va3uxb@MAKSYSTEMS.COM> w
> rote:
>
>> What are the specs of the crystal for the 200LX?  I want to try the
>> double-speed modification, but want to make sure I get the right crystal.
>> I've already had a look inside and the crystal looks like one of the littl
> e
>> watch crystals, but I gather that the 32.xxx kHz watch crystals are not th
> e
>> right ones, that it should be a 32.xxx MHz crystal?
>
> The original Times2Tech Techwpeed crystal is a 31.673 MHz quartz.
>
> And be sure not to use a quartz which has that frequency as one of its
> harmonics, but as the base frequency. Otherwise you will make your
> palmtop much sloooooower! I once tried to use such a "32MHz" quartz,
> but its base frequency seems to have been something like 4 MHz. I
> wondered why the palmtop went at about 1/4 of its original speed!
>
> :-)
>
> GTX
> daniel
>

This kind of raises any interesting question. How much would the
battery life improve if a person stuck an 8 MHz crystal in there?


John

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Hello all;

I'm thinking about buying an HP Omnibook 800-series (? - the
subnotebook) to go with my 200LX. I don't much about the HP
Omnibook line, so I was wondering if anyone could answer a few
questions for me:

1. What is the fastest model of the 200LX-look-alike
subnotebook-size Omibook?  What other specs does it have?
2. How reliable is the built-in mouse?
3. How hard is it to find additional drivers, etc.?
4. What price range would be considered fair?
5. Are the external drives and accessories always sold
separately?
6. What else should I look for/expect?

Any other tips of advice would be helpful. Thanks.

Richard A. Smith

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Hi Richard

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:20:37 -0600, Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:

> I'm thinking about buying an HP Omnibook 800-series (? - the
> subnotebook) to go with my 200LX. I don't much about the HP
> Omnibook line, so I was wondering if anyone could answer a few
> questions for me:
>
> 1. What is the fastest model of the 200LX-look-alike
> subnotebook-size Omibook?  What other specs does it have?

I know the following about the models (I can be wrong about the exact
values, but it is something in that range)

300    386 SX25   2-4MB RAM
425    486 SX25   2-6MB RAM
430    486 SX25   2-6MB RAM (different ROM than 425)
530    486
600C   486 DX50-DX75 Color up to 16MB RAM
600CT  486 DX50-DX75 Color TFT up to 16MB RAM
800C   586 100-133 MHz, Color, up to 80MB RAM
800CT  586 100-166 MHz, Color, up to 80MB RAM

All have this nice pop-up-mouse (the "paw"), all have external drives
(floppy, CD-ROM only 600 and 800), all have parallel and serial port,
IR port, similar keyboard. The 600 and 800 are lightly laerger than the
others and don't have this 200LX-like case design anymore (these
riffles on the top are replaced by a more "modern" looking wave-like
design ;-).
All up to the 600 have 4 PCMCIA slots. Two of them are normal PCMCIA
slots, the two others are only IDE mapped to PCMCIA pin layout, so you
can only use them with a PCMCIA hard disk, flash card or/and the OB ROM
cards.
The 800 uses a standard 2.5" HDD and can take up to 8.4 GB supported by
the BIOS, and much more if you run a real OS which doesn't care about
the BIOS limitation (Linux is no problem in my 800CT with 10GB hard
drive).


About compatibility: There are attempts to run Linux or Win95 on the
OB5xx and 600, but that's all crap, in my opinion. Power management is
totally winded up (only a few minutes battery life with Win95 on the
600), PCMCIA is not usable, and other problems wherever you go.

DOS and Win3.1 are fine on the 300-600, if you need more, use an OB800.
If you want to listen to MP3 and maybe watch small MPEG4 movies while
you work with Windows or Linux, take the 800CT 166MHz. It's really the
best. It is the ideal notebook in my opinion. Reasonable battery life,
compatible, has even SCSI on-board for the CD-ROM or whatever you like
to attach to the SCSI port, it has stereo sound (only over head phones,
the speaker is only mono), a well visible large TFT screen, it is
robust, and with 80MB it can be very fast, dependent on what you want
to do, of course. I compile a whole Linux kernel on it in about 20
minutes (Linux 2.4.17 with many modules). Even IrDA is supported onder
Linux now.

I have had a 430 and a 600C before, and that was not the right way to
go for me. But hey, I'm a DOS and Linux guy. I don't need / like
Windows at all. On the 800, there is no problem anymore to run DOS,
Windows and Linux in a multi-boot environment. Even DOS under Linux is
possible with DOSEMU, and I have managed to run a palmtop environment
with Palrun in DOSEMU under Linux, even with networking support, but
that was not ideal because I had problems with the graphics, related to
a bug in the PAL libraries, so this bug is now in all PAL applications.
But it is only visible in some cases and ONLY if you run under a
palmtop emulator.
Well - I want too far away from the subject I guess. Sorry.

> 2. How reliable is the built-in mouse?

If it's not broken: VERY reliable. You have to set the mouse
accelleration to 1.00 under Windows, so you even have the working range of
the mouse exactly assigned to the 800*600 (or, on the OB300-600 to
640*480) desktop. i.e. move the mouse to lower right until it stops,
and the arrow is really exactly in the lower right corner. And so on.

> 3. How hard is it to find additional drivers, etc.?

There are collections on the web. And HP still has support sites
mentioning possible incompatibilities and solutions for these. A few
drivers are also available.

> 4. What price range would be considered fair?

In Germany you pay for a 800CT 166 80MB with CD-ROM and Floppy around
350 EUR, I think.

> 5. Are the external drives and accessories always sold
> separately?

No. On ebay you can find many complete offers. But often they are also
sold seperately, because the sellers expect higher prices that way.

> 6. What else should I look for/expect?

Make sure you get the SCSI adapter cable or at least a docking station,
otherwise you cannot use the SCSI port! Oops, I see, this is line 99 of
this posting, so I'll stop here. GTX daniel

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Well, I google search got me the 'pinout' info of the Hornet chip.

It says somewhere:

NCS [0:1]   O  VCC  Active Low Card Selects for 2 Cards ( Byte access allows
card -CE2 to be tied high)

GPIO [9]            (reserver)        Card detect Input from Second Card
(NMI)


GPIO[25]    ....................reserved for IO /ready input from second
card in a two-card system/

Now,

_where_ are those pins on the chip? This is all I got.

If we can solder the Card detect of a second card to this GPIO[9], and the
CE1 to NCS[2], we should have our two card system.

Anyone???

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Actually, there are lots more omnibooks but these are the 'classic' =
omnibooks. Any model other than these are machines made by grid or =
somebody else and not really the original HP design. I don't think the =
newer OBs do inst-on. I have a 600C and am happy with it. It is a little =
light weight but I have a full sized Dell as well as a 200lx so the 600c =
fits nicely in the middle. I also have a 300 that has been gathering =
dust and may send it to ebay soon. Every time I take it down from the =
shelf I hesitate, tho as it is a clever little machine. I got it for a =
steal at $40 and that makes it even harder to give it up.

>=20
> I know the following about the models (I can be wrong about the exact
> values, but it is something in that range)
>=20
> 300    386 SX25   2-4MB RAM
> 425    486 SX25   2-6MB RAM
> 430    486 SX25   2-6MB RAM (different ROM than 425)
> 530    486
> 600C   486 DX50-DX75 Color up to 16MB RAM
> 600CT  486 DX50-DX75 Color TFT up to 16MB RAM
> 800C   586 100-133 MHz, Color, up to 80MB RAM
> 800CT  586 100-166 MHz, Color, up to 80MB RAM

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Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:40:22 +1200 (NZT)

07h38s ago ...
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:39:44 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:

> I still get my start page. When I check
> my c:\tmp directory I find a post.tmp
> mith the message and a msg.htm with the
> attachment.

Lillebjorn,

Well, when HV is launched by PNS200 the filename is not being
recognised.

Study this [Action] line from Helmuth's message:

[Action]
...
h=c:\bin\maxdos.com "c:\www\hv.exe %s"

You may also have a line like:

h=a:\hv\hv %s

If that is the last line in you PNS200.INI hit ENTER after
typing it so the cursor goes to the next line.

As you know the "%s" is a token for the file name.
If you do have that there then HV should start with that file
loaded. The only other problem I can think of is - the
PNS200.INI file must have fully defined lines. So, if your
action line for HV is the last in pns200.ini make sure you
have a CR after it.

----
if it still doesn't work, the simplest way to launch HV only
is to just have

PNS=a:\hv\hv.exe

in POST.CFG under the [SYSTEM] section.

For this to work, you do not need PNS200 at all.
Just the TmpDir, and HV.EXE in a directory of your choice
(need not be a:\hv for example. If HV.EXE is in your DOS Path
you can just have

PNS=hv)

-------
OK, if that works, and then you also want to launch view
pictures etc from POST/LX you need to have PNS200.EXE and
c:\_dat\PNS200.INI.

The simplest way to set it up is without maxdos, but then you
may run out of memory. So, you could try

[SYSTEM]
PNS=c:\bin\pns200.exe

and in [Action] of c:\_dat\pns200.ini have just

PNS=a:\hv\hv.exe %s

[If that is the last line in your PNS200.INI hit ENTER after
typing it so the cursor goes to the next line.]
--------
Next in the level of complexity is to use maxdos. For this to
work properly you need to install maxdos as a TSR before
running POST.EXE (maxdos -l post.exe maxdos -l in a bat file).

And then this line in POST.CFG will give maximum memory:

PNS=c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\bin\pns200.exe

but then in PNS200.INI, using another maxdos will have no
effect I tink as there is no spare maxdos tsr loaded.
(It will still work however, and the maxdos will swap if PNS200
is called from file manager, and maxdos was loaded before
Sysman was started)
---------

I hope this gives you a few ideas.

I recommend just PNS=hv for the first attempt.

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I saw a Lexar 64 MB CF card for $20 after a $20 mail-in rebate at CompUSA
this weekend, The card is intended for digital cameras and states that it
features built-in USB support. It looks like you can buy an inexpensive USB
adapter for this thing to download pictures from the camera.

Does anyone know if the USB support is a problem for operation in the
200LX?

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Hi Gary,

There is no problem in copying from a CF card, whether pictures or files. No
"built-in " USB support is required in order to use USB, anymore than if you
are using a parallel port with files or JPEGS. All you need is a card reader
which supports whichever port you have - USB or Parallel.

Richard




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Subject: Does CF card with USB support work in 200LX?


> I saw a Lexar 64 MB CF card for $20 after a $20 mail-in rebate at CompUSA
> this weekend, The card is intended for digital cameras and states that it
> features built-in USB support. It looks like you can buy an inexpensive
USB
> adapter for this thing to download pictures from the camera.
>
> Does anyone know if the USB support is a problem for operation in the
> 200LX?
>

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I think

On 04-23 03:27pm CDT,

>
> GPIO [9]            (reserver)        Card detect Input from Second Card
> (NMI)

is pin 31 and

>
>
> GPIO[25]    ....................reserved for IO /ready input from second
> card in a two-card system/

is pin 47

>
> Now,
>
> _where_ are those pins on the chip? This is all I got.
>

HTH

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On 04-23 08:47am CDT,

> I saw a Lexar 64 MB CF card for $20 after a $20 mail-in rebate at CompUSA
> this weekend, The card is intended for digital cameras and states that it
> features built-in USB support. It looks like you can buy an inexpensive USB
> adapter for this thing to download pictures from the camera.
>
> Does anyone know if the USB support is a problem for operation in the
> 200LX?

I don't think these cards work in the 200LX.

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Le Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:27:37 +0100
"Richard E. McEvoy" <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE> a icrit:

> Jacques,
>
> J'en suis disoli. I do hope you were not injured,

Not really, fortunately.

> and that you succeed in getting it back, one way or another.

I hope so. <g>


> If not, I would be happy to contribute towards a replacement, if you
> don't mind.

Thanks a lot, but I think tranfer money from Ireland to France would
cause more hassle than the sum itself....

Anyway, this kind of response shows how great is this list !  :-)


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Tony Hutchins wrote:

> Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:40:22 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 07h38s ago ...
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:39:44 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:
>
> > I still get my start page. When I check
> > my c:\tmp directory I find a post.tmp
> > mith the message and a msg.htm with the
> > attachment.
>
> Lillebjorn,
>
> Well, when HV is launched by PNS200 the filename is not being
> recognised.
>
> Study this [Action] line from Helmuth's message:
>
> [Action]
> ...
> h=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com "c:\www\hv.exe %s"
>
> You may also have a line like:
>
> h=3Da:\hv\hv %s
>
> If that is the last line in you PNS200.INI hit ENTER after
> typing it so the cursor goes to the next line.
>
> As you know the "%s" is a token for the file name.
> If you do have that there then HV should start with that file
> loaded. The only other problem I can think of is - the
> PNS200.INI file must have fully defined lines. So, if your
> action line for HV is the last in pns200.ini make sure you
> have a CR after it.

Yes!! This did it! The CR after the last
line. Thanks!

>
> ----
> if it still doesn't work, the simplest way to launch HV only
> is to just have
>
> PNS=3Da:\hv\hv.exe
>
> in POST.CFG under the [SYSTEM] section.
>
> For this to work, you do not need PNS200 at all.
> Just the TmpDir, and HV.EXE in a directory of your choice
> (need not be a:\hv for example. If HV.EXE is in your DOS Path
> you can just have
>
> PNS=3Dhv)
>
> -------
> OK, if that works, and then you also want to launch view
> pictures etc from POST/LX you need to have PNS200.EXE and
> c:\_dat\PNS200.INI.
>
> The simplest way to set it up is without maxdos, but then you
> may run out of memory. So, you could try
>
> [SYSTEM]
> PNS=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe
>
> and in [Action] of c:\_dat\pns200.ini have just
>
> PNS=3Da:\hv\hv.exe %s
>
> [If that is the last line in your PNS200.INI hit ENTER after
> typing it so the cursor goes to the next line.]
> --------
> Next in the level of complexity is to use maxdos. For this to
> work properly you need to install maxdos as a TSR before
> running POST.EXE (maxdos -l post.exe maxdos -l in a bat file).
>
> And then this line in POST.CFG will give maximum memory:
>
> PNS=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com c:\bin\pns200.exe
>
> but then in PNS200.INI, using another maxdos will have no
> effect I tink as there is no spare maxdos tsr loaded.
> (It will still work however, and the maxdos will swap if PNS200
> is called from file manager, and maxdos was loaded before
> Sysman was started)
> ---------
>
> I hope this gives you a few ideas.
>
> I recommend just PNS=3Dhv for the first attempt.
>
> - Tony
>
>

Thanks also for all the rest of the
useful information.

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Hi Everyone

I was wondering- does anyone know if lithium ion batteries can be
charged using a constant current or a constant voltage source.
Also is the charge terminated when the batteries reach a certain
voltage? I am familiar with lithium metal rechargeables and they
are charged using a constant current and terminated when the
batteries reach about 3.3 volts. Does anyone know where a person
would get li-ion AA batteries if your not a manufacturer? Thanks

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>Subject: WTB: HP Omnibook
>   Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:20:37 -0600
>   From: Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
>Hello all;
>I'm thinking about buying an HP Omnibook 800-series (? - the
>subnotebook) to go with my 200LX.
>
>Richard A. Smith

Richard

The fastest Omnibook is the 800 but I prefer the 425 since it has the OS
and applications built into ROM like the 200LX. I can transfer files
over IR (easier with Omnibook in Win3.1) and read 200LX PIM files with
the built in Omnibook PIM suite. I prefer running the CPACK 200LX
emulator under DOS, then it not only reads the palmtop files it uses all
the same keystrokes.
If you want to know more (way more) you could check out the Omnibook
list (listproc@elektro.cmhnet.org). I also have the Omnibook FAQ and an
address to FTP the Omnibook list archives. Let me know and I'll send you
more info.

> I know the following about the models (I can be wrong about the exact
> values, but it is something in that range)
>
> 300    386 SX25   2-4MB RAM
> 425    486 SX25   2-6MB RAM
> 430    486 SX25   2-6MB RAM (different ROM than 425)

The 300/425/430 have 2Mb built in plus a 2/4/6 Mb memory card so the
theoretical maximum is 8Mb.
It's getting hard to find the 8 Mb cards, of course they are peculiar to
the early Omnibooks.

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For HP Staber:

Do you only want GP on the Jornada?  I've been using the built in POP3
 client as well as IE for web mail and it works just fine for me.
 Earthlink is my ISP.  Earthlink has nodes in Europe too, with no
 irritating logon script like Compuserve.  It's really nice to
 retreive my email on the POP3 client but not log off the ISP, start
 reading, run into an interesting link, click on the link, and have IE
 start up and connect to the url - really convenient.   and I have a
 modem w/o using my CF or PCMCIA slots either.  For example, I checked
 out all of the links in the last HPLX digest while on-line typing
 this - something I don't normally do - tie up the phone line.

At first I was going to work a lot harder on getting PocketDOS going
 with all of the applications I normally used on the HP200LX, but
 applications like ListPro and HandDBase or VisualCE work well enough
 to satisfy the immediate needs at work.    I starting using HanDBase
 when I was trying out the Palm world a couple years ago and I've
 followed the programmer as he grew into DDH Software - and HanDBase
 is a very good database all by itself.  Sort of like the power of
 MSAccess with the ease of a flat file database.  ListPro is another
 "gotta have" application for me.   I can also thank Nathalie for
 inspiring me to purchase the English-French dictionary on the J720 -
 I already had the English-German version.   I guess what I'm trying
 to say is that I miss the size of the HP200LX, and the battery life,
 but there are real advantages to the J720 or J568.  Each person has
 to decide for themselves what they need.

   >Well, the exciting adventures of HP Staber continue! You've
 decided to give the J720
   >another chance?

I saw that too - HP must have had a bad day or two at the office!

To Chris Randle:

   >   4) You can use WinCE only at night. During the day you can
 hardly see
   >    anything on the screen.

   >Not a fault of WinCE. Loath as I am to defend anything MS, this is
 not =
   >their doing, it's a hardware issue.
   >
   >My Jornada 568 has a reflective sidelit screen that's as good in
 direct =
   >sunlight as it is in a darkened room. Indeed, a backlit screen
 usable =
   >outdoors was one of the things that finally tempted me away from
 the =
   >200. I was so disappointed when the Thaddeus backlight project was
 =
   >shelved.

Agreed!  The HP200LX is the correct size and durability, but the
 non-backlit screen forced me away.  Too many powerpoint presentations
 with room lights only at the back and me squinting at the screen.
 I'm checking out a Jornada 568 - actually a very nice combination of
 screen visibility under any lighting.  The J720 is somewhat slow at
 coming up to full brightness when in a car traveling in sunlight, but
 as long as the sun doesn't fall on the screen, it's usable.  Under
 normal office lighting conditions, I have the J720 at about 1/3
 backlight power, the J568 backlight is one notch up from being shut
 off.

One point about independence.  Except for maybe loading SW into the
 units, the J720, and possibly the J568, could run standalone.  I
 don't use Outlook on the PC.  I back up to a CF card - quick and easy
 - no ActiveSync backups.  I synchronize to the desktop only to comply
 with getting my calendar and tasks into Groupwise and to move any
 files created back and forth.  Otherwise I run independent of the
 desktops or laptops.  The keyboard on the Jornada 720 allows me to
 keep up with meeting notes just like the HP200 - not possible with
 the Jornada 568 or any HWR or thumbboard system.   IOW, my handheld
 remains my primary tool at work and at home.  I have a very nice
 Toshiba laptop at home that is used very little.   I am away from my
 desk so much at work that I carry all necessary files on my J720,
 powerpoint presentations included.  Although I don't have all the
 functionality of a desktop, it's good enough, and some applications I
 like much better on the handheld.

Tim

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Gary Spiers wrote:

> For daytime use of a WinCE you need to purchase and carry around a
> Worthington (http://garys.hplx.net/LINDA98.htm second picture

Gary, you forgot to mention that the Worthington folds up to
the size of a deck of cards for easy storage. <grin>


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Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:56:44 +1200 (NZT)

01h23m16s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:33:28 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:

> Yes!! This did it! The CR after the last line. Thanks!

Great! I forgot that CR once myself<VBG>

> Thanks also for all the rest of the useful information.

Hehe looking back I see I repeated myself a lot -  had just
woken up<G>. I'm glad you got it working! It's a great feature
- I only discovered it last year, and Helmuth had been using
it for 2 years before that!!

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OBMax will free up most lower DOS, up to about 600K on the 300 and 425.
It does not effect power management or instant-on.  I have it installed
on a OB300 running Win 3.1 with Max DOS enabled.    =Bob=

Eduardo Seudsnimo wrote:
>
> The OB 300 has limitations because it MUST boot from the ROM card (similar to the LX) however, unlike the LX, there are TSRs loaded from the ROM card that take up a whole lot of convenional RAM. There is a commercial app (I forget the name) that gouges
out the TSRs from memory by force and gives you the RAM back. I think it winds up disabling the power management and instant-on features. I don't know why they were able to have auto sleep and instant on with the LX and not the OB300. It seems the the
omnibooks were inspired by the LX palmtops. My OB 300 is like a big 200lx with a nice keyboard and a paw mouse.
>

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Is anyone successfully running the Connectivity Pack under Win XP? I can't
get the Filer to run, though everything else seems to run OK.

I searched the archives and was unable to find anything relevant.

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> CLK32UP is for real 32MHz quartzes, SPD31 for the Times2Tech 31.xxx MHz
> quartz (this one has exacly 2* the speed of the original quartz, which
> has 15.xxx MHz. So these two drivers probably handle timings differently.
> Have you tried with 32MHz or with the TechSpeed upgrades?

Can anyone tell me how to check out WHICH DS upgrade is my HP using? There
isn't 'normal' crystal inside to read it from, but thing named oscillator,
four-wired black thing with only two wires connected to crystal's place.
No freq readable.

But interesting thing: When I do not use my clkup32.sys, I can connect via
serial port when I set my HP to use half a baudrate set on my desktop, ie
for example HP uses 4800 while desktop 9600. Doesn't THIS mean my HP works
exactly at twice frequency of original HP?

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The previous post was probably lost somewhere, so again amd updated...



It was tried it with techspeed 31.xxx MHz upgrade. All sensitive devices
seem to be working.

Stefan's driver was even slower than T2T driver. So the clk32up.sys is the
winner.

I have stored old values before speed upgrade, here is the comparision
made by Checkit:

dspeed.com    .....  1.96x single speed 200lx
spd31.exe .....2.01x ss 200lx
clk32up.sys ...2.22x ss 200lx
without any driver .... 1x ss 200lx

...and now screen switched off (only with spd31.exe) : 2.65x ss 200lx

I am going to add switching off the screen when doing the night backup:-)
The compressing
of files will be much faster.

Radek







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Hi Radek

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:18:34 +0200, Radek Svagr
<radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM> wrote:

> We compared CLK32UP.SYS and SPD31.EXE v 2.0

Interesting!

Would you please also check the performance with Stefan Peichl's
dspeed?

CLK32UP is for real 32MHz quartzes, SPD31 for the Times2Tech 31.xxx MHz
quartz (this one has exacly 2* the speed of the original quartz, which
has 15.xxx MHz. So these two drivers probably handle timings differently.
Have you tried with 32MHz or with the TechSpeed upgrades?
Did all time-sensitive peripherals (PCMCIA slot, IR, serial port) work
well with both drivers?

There is also said to be a speed increase if you turn the LCD off while
the LX is working (this can be done using the SPD31 driver with a
hotkey, or using an external program available on SUPER). That means,
refreshing the screen takes up processor time.

GTX
daniel


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Gary,

If all you want to do is read/write CF cards on your 200LX, just get a =
PCMCIA/CF card adapter at CompUSA, <$20.  This is a simple sleeve that =
you insert the CF card into, then insert the whole assembly into your =
200LX, just like any other PCMCIA card.

With this adapter, you can use CF cards just like full sized PCMCIA =
flash cards on your 200LX.

Michael

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Sent:   Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:47 AM
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Subject:             Does CF card with USB support work in 200LX?

I saw a Lexar 64 MB CF card for $20 after a $20 mail-in rebate at =
CompUSA
this weekend, The card is intended for digital cameras and states that =
it
features built-in USB support. It looks like you can buy an inexpensive =
USB
adapter for this thing to download pictures from the camera.

Does anyone know if the USB support is a problem for operation in the
200LX?

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John replied
> I think
>
> > GPIO [9]            (reserver)        Card detect Input from Second Card
>
> is pin 31 and
>
> > GPIO[25]    ....................reserved for IO /ready input from second
> > card in a two-card system/
>
> is pin 47

Can you post (or mail me)  ALL the pin outs? There's more to experiment, and
I have spares motherboards to test with...

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Hi,

There is no program available to read PDFs in the
200lx but you can try different approaches.

1) PDF2TXT: Available on SUPER. Will NOT run on the
200lx. It needs at least a 386 processor. DPMI is Dos
Protected Mode I...? which means you need a 386 or
higher processor to run that program. Use a new
computer.

2) Use Adobe acrobat for Windows to copy and paste all
text to your favorite Word Processor and then save it
as a *.txt, *.rtf or *.doc which are all formats you
can read in the palmtop (Use Word 5.5 or View in the
Palmtop).

3) send the file to an e-mail address somebody
mentioned before and you will receive a *.txt file.

4) if you need some images or photographs included in
the PDF you can open Adobe acrobat for windows and go
to the picture you want save. Then press Print on your
keyboard. Open Paint and click on Paste. You can now
save the file as as *.jpg which can be opened with
lxpic in the palmtop.

Cheers,

Inigo

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Thanks for everyone's prompt response. I don't think I was clear enough
with my question.

I currently use a 16 MB CF card from Sandisk with a CF-to-PCMCIA adapter in
my 200LX.  I'd like to use the Lexar 64 MB card, but I've never heard of a
CF card that has built-in USB support. I'm wondering if the presence of USB
support in a CF card is a problem when it is used with a 200LX. Before I
spring for this card, I'd like to know that it's going to work OK.

Does anyone have information about a hybrid CF/USB card working or not
working in a 200LX?

Thanks.

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It was tried it with techspeed 31.xxx MHz upgrade. All sensitive devices
seem to be working.

Stefan's driver was even slower than T2T driver. So the clk32up.sys is the
winner.

I have stored old values before speed upgrade, here is the comparision
made by Checkit:

dspeed.com    .....  1.96x single speed 200lx
spd31.exe .....2.01x ss 200lx
clk32up.sys ...2.22x ss 200lx

...and now screen switched off (only with spd31.exe) : 2.65x ss 200lx

I am going to add switching off the screen when doing the night backup:-)
The compressing
of files will be much faster.

Radek







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Hi Radek

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:18:34 +0200, Radek Svagr
<radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM> wrote:

> We compared CLK32UP.SYS and SPD31.EXE v 2.0

Interesting!

Would you please also check the performance with Stefan Peichl's
dspeed?

CLK32UP is for real 32MHz quartzes, SPD31 for the Times2Tech 31.xxx MHz
quartz (this one has exacly 2* the speed of the original quartz, which
has 15.xxx MHz. So these two drivers probably handle timings differently.
Have you tried with 32MHz or with the TechSpeed upgrades?
Did all time-sensitive peripherals (PCMCIA slot, IR, serial port) work
well with both drivers?

There is also said to be a speed increase if you turn the LCD off while
the LX is working (this can be done using the SPD31 driver with a
hotkey, or using an external program available on SUPER). That means,
refreshing the screen takes up processor time.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:21:01 -0700
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This is just a PR piece designed to help extract $5,000,000
from the US taxpayers over a 10 year period to develop solid
state light sources. As far as I can tell, the referenced page
contains no performance data, so no "breakthrough" is being
announced. For some data on high performance LEDs check
www.luxeon.com

LEDs certainly are an excellent light source for some
applications, such as signal lamps and other "colored" light
source applications, and also where a small and rugged source
is needed, as in Daniel's excellent palmtop light. However,
the idea that they will be more cost effective in general
purpose lighting applications is either a pipe dream or many,
many years away.

Vic Roberts

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:23:43 +0200, Feher Tamas <feher.tamas@2FKFT.COM> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> US SANDIA National Laboratories promotes its revolutionary LEDs for
> generic lighting purposes. Maybe of interest to Daniel Hertrich and other
> palmtoppers with serial port lights.
>
> http://www.sandia.gov/media/NewsRel/NR2002/LEDS2.htm
>
> http://lighting.sandia.gov/
>
> Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
>
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:03:38 -0500, John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> > Does anyone know if the USB support is a problem for operation in the
> > 200LX?
>
> I don't think these cards work in the 200LX.

If these cards are labeled as CF, they meet the CF standard, so they
should work in the 200LX.
Built-in USB support probably means some kind of signal level adaption
or tolerance for different signal levels or timings, which _could_
affect the ability to be used with the 200LX, but don't have to.

So, if there is the chance, try the card, and if it doesn't work,
return it. But for serious work I would always recommend Sandisk cards.
A little more expensive, but they _do_ work.

GTX
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Hi Larry and others

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:06:25 -0700, Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Is anyone successfully running the Connectivity Pack under Win XP? I can't
> get the Filer to run, though everything else seems to run OK.
>
> I searched the archives and was unable to find anything relevant.

These questions appear so often here (CPACK under Win95, 98, ME, 2000,
XP...) that I suggest we collect all reports and howtos somewhere.
If you send howtos to me, I can make them available either on
www.palmtop.net (will have to negotiate that with David) or on my
homepage.

So please, send me complete howtos for running CPACK under Windows!
And it would be nice if you allow me to publish your email address so
anyone having problems can ask the howto writer directly.

Thanks
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Hi Ling

found your message from MAR 2nd in my HPLX-L folder and cannot remember
that it has been awnsered:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:23:57 +0800, SM Ling <piclister@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I think the best deal is on the eBay, there is one that has a plastic case
> that let it be mounted like a floppy drive so it can be assesible without
> opening out the PC case.  I have not tried that version, and not sure about
> he hot-plugging issue.

hot-plugging is not possible with IDE devices (and with this device the
CF card is used as a normal IDE hard disk). So you must reboot the
machine for every plug / unplug process in order to avoid data loss.

> Which bring me to the question about 3V3 and 5V CF that the previous site
> mentioned, how does one differentiate them by appearance or form factor?
> Because so far for the CFs I bought, this information is not printed on the
> packaging.

The difference is a mechanical "key" at the sides of the card. If you
take a CF card or A PCMCIA card, you see notches at the sides. These
notches prevent you from plugging a card into a slot which has the
wrong power supply.
The palmtop only provides 5V and 12V to a PCMCIA card. There is no pin
with 3.3V and a 3.3V card will not fit into the PCMCIA slot of the LX.

GTX
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Date:         Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:48:20 -0500
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I bought a regular 128 MB CF card on-line from Fry's for about $50.00. Works
fine in my 100LX using an Antec PCMCIA/CF adapter. Here's a current search
on Fry's Outpost.com (http://www.outpost.com/) 1-877-OUTPOST
(1-877-688-7678)

I don't know anything about the "built-in" USB support, but doubt it has any
effect on the 200LX's use. I use an Antec USB card reader to copy my files
from the

 CF to the PC. Sorry I can't be of more help on your actual question, which
is the "built-in" USB support.

You searched for: 128mb compactflash.
Item # Product Name Manufacturer Platform Shipping Price
3052829 128MB CompactFlash Card OEM Memory Same Day $59.95
3082129 128MB CompactFlash Card Delkin Devices Inc Same Day $54.95
2779953 128MB CompactFlash Card OEM Memory Call for Availability $39.95
2643722 128MB CompactFlash Card Sandisk Call for Availability $69.95
2863744 128MB Compact Flash Card DanE-Elec Same Day $59.95

You searched for: 64mb compact flash.
Item # Product Name Manufacturer Platform Shipping Price
3068579  64MB CompactFlash Card OEM Memory   Same Day $29.95
2863744  128MB Compact Flash Card DanE-Elec   Same Day $59.95
3250431  64MB Secure Digital Flash Card Dana-Elec   Same Day $54.95
3040169  Iomega 64MB CompactFlash Card Iomega   Call for Availability $69.95
2992545  64MB Secure Digital Card Sandisk   Same Day $69.95

John

PS The Lexar with USB support seems overkill for a 200LX, but it should
work, since it "meets the CompactFlash Association's specifications and
carries the CF+ symbol." You'd probably (this is a guess) have to format the
card in the LX to make sure it worked. It's no less expensive than the other
CF cards, though.

Here's the info from the same website:

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64MB USB CompactFlash 4X Digital Film
Lexar Media:

Outpost #: 2903395
Today's digital cameras capture the highest resolution images ever, and the
large files they create can make you wait to take the next picture. But it
doesn't have to be that way. With Lexar Media's digital film, there's less
time waiting and more time taking pictures

In stock, same day shipping  Price: $ 49.95
Detailed Description   (Manufacturer# CF064-231)

Features:
Capture Better Pictures Faster: Every Lexar Media CompactFlash digital film
card comes with Lexar's patented controller, which records your images
faster than just about any other generic film currently available.

The Fast, Easy-to-Use, Low-Cost Solution for the Digital Photography
Enthusiast: Lexar has harnessed the speed and power of USB technology to
provide an easy-to-use, low-cost image-transfer solution for the digital
photography enthusiast. Lexar's USB-enabled CompactFlash digital film and
JumpShot-connection kit let you quickly capture high-resolution images and
easily transfer them to a PC or Mac through the USB port on your computer.
There's no lengthy installation process - and no need for a separate card
reader. With Lexar Media's JumpShot-connection kit, you can now transfer
your CompactFlash images to your computer up to 25 times faster than your
camera's serial cable connection.

100% Camera Compatibility Guaranteed, Plus a 5-Year Limited Warranty: The
Digital Film Compliance seal assures you that your Lexar film is 100%
compatible with your CompactFlash digital camera. Moreover, your film is
also backed by a 5-year limited customer-satisfaction warranty. All Lexar
Media USB-enabled CompactFlash meets the CompactFlash Association's
specifications and carries the CF+ symbol.
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Gary W Stiefel
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Does CF card with USB support work in 200LX?


Thanks for everyone's prompt response. I don't think I was clear enough
with my question.

I currently use a 16 MB CF card from Sandisk with a CF-to-PCMCIA adapter in
my 200LX.  I'd like to use the Lexar 64 MB card, but I've never heard of a
CF card that has built-in USB support. I'm wondering if the presence of USB
support in a CF card is a problem when it is used with a 200LX. Before I
spring for this card, I'd like to know that it's going to work OK.

Does anyone have information about a hybrid CF/USB card working or not
working in a 200LX?

Thanks.

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Radek,

> dspeed.com    .....  1.96x single speed 200lx
> spd31.exe .....2.01x ss 200lx
> clk32up.sys ...2.22x ss 200lx
>
> ...and now screen switched off (only with spd31.exe) : 2.65x ss 200lx

Where did you get clk32up.sys from?

Is this freeware?

Would you mind sending me a copy?

Kind regards

Helmuth

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> OBMax will free up most lower DOS, up to about 600K on the 300
and 425.
> It does not effect power management or instant-on.  I have it
installed
> on a OB300 running Win 3.1 with Max DOS enabled.    =Bob=

That's good to know.  I spent some time on Ebay yesterday to see
if that one really good deal was there.  A couple did look good
but I haven't decided to spend the money yet.  Now that I'm
retired I have to be more careful than I used to be, and I have
the Aeros so the Omnibook would just be a lark.

When the OB300 first came out I wanted one so bad.  I would go
every weekend to buy one and then at the last minute change my
mind.  I already had a perfectly good laptop and I had no use
whatever for the OB300 so I never actually got one.

Then about 4 or 5 years ago I found one in a pawn shop for $50
and I bought it.  It worked fine in the shop but when I got home
it wouldn't come on.  I found a local place that repaired them
but they said it needed a new motherboard and would be several
hundred dollars.

So maybe I'm destined to go through life without an Omnibook.  I
just wish I had a use for it.  That would make all the
difference in the world. :)

Barry

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> The fastest Omnibook is the 800 but I prefer the 425 since it has the OS
> and applications built into ROM like the 200LX. I can transfer files
> over IR (easier with Omnibook in Win3.1) and read 200LX PIM files with
> the built in Omnibook PIM suite. I prefer running the CPACK 200LX
> emulator under DOS, then it not only reads the palmtop files it uses all
> the same keystrokes.
> If you want to know more (way more) you could check out the Omnibook
> list (listproc@elektro.cmhnet.org). I also have the Omnibook FAQ and an
> address to FTP the Omnibook list archives. Let me know and I'll send you
> more info.

You can also browse and search the list archives at
www.omnibook.org which also has links to some of the above.

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Do you still have that omnibook? There's a trick with them whereby you =
have to press the reset switch in the back with a pen to get it to come =
on again. I got burned by this... twice!

snips

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]On Behalf Of
> Barry
> Then about 4 or 5 years ago I found one in a pawn shop for $50
> and I bought it.  It worked fine in the shop but when I got home
> it wouldn't come on.  I found a local place that repaired them
> but they said it needed a new motherboard and would be several
> hundred dollars.
>=20
> So maybe I'm destined to go through life without an Omnibook.  I
> just wish I had a use for it.  That would make all the
> difference in the world. :)
>=20
> Barry

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> Do you still have that omnibook? There's a trick with them
> whereby you have to press the reset switch in the back with
> a pen to get it to come on again. I got burned by this...
twice!

I don't have it but I'm sure I tried that.  I got on some
newsgroup and asked and I got a few suggestions and they didn't
help.  I don't remember what the suggestions were now.

I think I donated it to the repair shop for spare parts, if I
remember correctly.

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HP,

all of WWW/LX is quite slow under PocketDOS, but you may try to run it
under Palrun to make it a bit faster. This worked for me on a Jornada
720 (even though I don't use that and mory).

Thomas


HP Staber wrote:
 > In any case I'm not very enthusiastic about working under PocketDOS. I
 > tested ROBOWEB/LX on the J720 again today and it is so slow that I
 > terminated the online run. It's close to useless.

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I am intrigued by this thread.

Once the requisite pins were mapped out, how would you use them?  There
doesn't seem to be space to mount much extra on the inside.  Though what I
think would be ideal would be to add a CF connector rather than a second
PCMCIA connector; then a CF card could provide all the a: storage, and leave
the pcmcia slot free for modem / network / etc.

I am also wondering, does the built-in card driver have the capability to
recognize a second slot or a second adaptor?  Or is this still yet to be
determined by experimentation?

-Stephanie

> Can you post (or mail me)  ALL the pin outs? There's more to experiment, and
> I have spares motherboards to test with...

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John Musielewicz wrote:
> does anyone know if lithium ion batteries can be
> charged using a constant current or a constant voltage source.

Constant voltage, just like Pb. But be very careful, they are extremely
particular about voltage and on top of that there are two types which I
do not know how to distinguish between. The 3.6 V ones want 4.1 V and
the 3.7 V ones 4.2 V for charginbg, both voltages +/- 50 mV. If you
charge them only 1% too high they'll begin to decompose - to metallic Li
which burns nicely after they burst - and 1 % too low makes you lose
capacity - 7 % less for 100 mV less charging voltage. This is also the
reason why they are never charged in series like any other kind of cell
is but always have a dedicated controller across every cell in a series
configuration. So do it just a bit not right and you'll soon know, apart
from that no problem.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Does CF card with USB support work in 200LX?


> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:03:38 -0500, John Musielewicz
<jmusielewicz@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone know if the USB support is a problem for operation in the
> > > 200LX?
> >
> > I don't think these cards work in the 200LX.
>
> If these cards are labeled as CF, they meet the CF standard, so they
> should work in the 200LX.
> Built-in USB support probably means some kind of signal level adaption
> or tolerance for different signal levels or timings, which _could_
> affect the ability to be used with the 200LX, but don't have to.
>
> So, if there is the chance, try the card, and if it doesn't work,
> return it. But for serious work I would always recommend Sandisk cards.
> A little more expensive, but they _do_ work.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>

Seems to me I remember a previous  poster who wrote that he couldn't get the
Lexar cards to work in the 200LX. Anyway the 200LX flash driver software was
designed before the standards came out.
Alot of stuff doesn't work with differant card such as the power saving
modes even if they adhere to the standards completely. On a differant
subject- has anyone tried using the Socket low powered ethernet on the
200LX.? They claim it uses 16 mA full power at 3.3V and say it does work in
a 5 volt slot with a type ii to compact flash adapter. www.socket.com

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Hi friends,

i-mode is currently coming. The German network provider E-Plus is the
first who offers i-mode. I don't know much about i-mode, except that
you need a special phone for it and that you then have access to some
more or less interesting services, provided by known service providers.
So there is an i-mode eBay portal, or pizza delivery services offer
their services via i-mode, email services are usable via i-mode and
so on.....

Now my question: i-mode is a common standard in Japan for some time
already, so, dear Japanese friends, what are your opinions about
i-mode? Can we expect some realy useful things from i-mode or is it
just another thing to play with?

And (to make this a not totally off-topic thread): Does anyone know on
what protocols i-mode is based, so may it be possible to use i-mode
with the LX in the future? At least for some things it couls be really
useful, such as bidding on ebay, doing online banking etc.

GTX
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephanie Maks" <va3uxb@MAKSYSTEMS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Pins for second PCMCIA card on the Hornet chip


> I am intrigued by this thread.
>
> Once the requisite pins were mapped out, how would you use them?  There
> doesn't seem to be space to mount much extra on the inside.  Though what I
> think would be ideal would be to add a CF connector rather than a second
> PCMCIA connector; then a CF card could provide all the a: storage, and
leave
> the pcmcia slot free for modem / network / etc.

Another problem is the pcmcia is limited to about 180 mA by the power supply
so you may not be able to get a modem or network card working if you are
already using a flash card. Worst case is you could blow the 5 volt power
supply. It would be best to add a second slot and also increase the amout of
current availible by tapping directly into the batteries and AC adapter.

>
> I am also wondering, does the built-in card driver have the capability to
> recognize a second slot or a second adaptor?  Or is this still yet to be
> determined by experimentation?

I don't know for sure but I think second card support is built in. However
it probably wouldn't be difficult to write the software for second card
support if needed. The SDK does have examples of pcmcia drivers.

>
> -Stephanie
>
> > Can you post (or mail me)  ALL the pin outs? There's more to experiment,
and
> > I have spares motherboards to test with...
>
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Thanks Axel

Do you know how the charge is terminated?

John
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> John Musielewicz wrote:
> > does anyone know if lithium ion batteries can be
> > charged using a constant current or a constant voltage source.
>
> Constant voltage, just like Pb. But be very careful, they are extremely
> particular about voltage and on top of that there are two types which I
> do not know how to distinguish between. The 3.6 V ones want 4.1 V and
> the 3.7 V ones 4.2 V for charginbg, both voltages +/- 50 mV. If you
> charge them only 1% too high they'll begin to decompose - to metallic Li
> which burns nicely after they burst - and 1 % too low makes you lose
> capacity - 7 % less for 100 mV less charging voltage. This is also the
> reason why they are never charged in series like any other kind of cell
> is but always have a dedicated controller across every cell in a series
> configuration. So do it just a bit not right and you'll soon know, apart
> from that no problem.
>
> Axel
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:06:25 -0700, Larry Mittell wrote:
>Is anyone successfully running the Connectivity Pack under Win=
 XP? I
>can't get the Filer to run, though everything else seems to run=
 OK.

Filer in the cpack works fine for me under WinXpPro.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong - they are not charged at a constant voltage

Li-ion batteries are charged with a constant current until the cell voltage reaches a terminal voltage, typically 4.1 or 4.2v per cell.  At that point, they are charged at constant voltage until the current tapers off to a certain value - all of these
parameters are determined by the manufacturer of the CELLS (not the battery pack) and so must be carefully researched to prevent any explosive conditions (just a warning not a roadblock).

I built a li-ion charger from a Unitrode package from TI and am happily using some 14.8V battery packs for lightweight ham radio usage in the field when I go backpacking.

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I wrote:

> i-mode is currently coming. The German network provider E-Plus is the
> first who offers i-mode. I don't know much about i-mode, except that

oops, I meant E-Plus is the first on _in_Germany_. Don't know about
other countries.

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John Musielewicz wrote:
> Do you know how the charge is terminated?

Not in so many words. Just as with Pb the current eventually falls down to
a very low value. My source did not mention any recommendation to lower the
voltage. With sealed Pb you charge at 2.45 V/cell until the current drops
to capacity/100h and then reduce the voltage to a permanent 2.23 to 2.3
V/cell. For Liion I have not found such a recommendation, so apparently you
just keep the voltage constant.

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John_Evans wrote:
> Wrong, wrong, wrong - they are not charged at a constant voltage
and then:
> until the cell voltage reaches a terminal voltage,
> typically 4.1 or 4.2v per cell.  At that point, they are charged
> at constant voltage until the current tapers off to a certain value

To me that is constant voltage. A certain amount of current limiting is
nothing more than plain common sense and will mostly be to keep the size
and price of the charger within bounds. According to my source, these cells
can initially take a current of C/1h to C/0.5h (or 2A/Ah), which is far
more than any charger I'd build would be capable of.
One thing more is worth mentioning: LiIon do not take at all kindly to deep
discharge, below 2.4 V irreversibly ruins them. Should the voltage be 2.5 V
or less, you must reduce the initial current to a few mlliamps (my source
says 5 mA, which without telling what size cell they are referring to is
nonsense, lets call it approximately 5mA/Ah or C/200h) until it has risen
appreciably above that.

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I performed a RAM test on my NSW upgraded 5meg 200LX. It
returns the message RAM2 bad. Is this the memory on the
daughter board? Will removing the upgrade board fix the
problem? Does anyone have an old daughter board (1-2meg)
laying around that they would part with inexpensively?

Thanks
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Probably true, unless the individual decides to use a really hefty power supply or constant voltage source that can provide more than that current rating.

Also, yes, you need to watch discharging the cells below a certain point.  Most battery packs have built in protection circuitry to prevent overcharging or over-discharging.  Also, if you approach the minimum deep discharge voltage, you may actually
shorten the life of the cells.  Cell life can be extended by not going as low.

For the packs I built, I used surplus Audiovox BTE-600? packs from All Electronics and left them intact so that I got the benefit of the built in protection circuitry.  I get a 4 cell pack that provides 1000 mah capacity and will typically last me all
weekend for my low power CW rigs.  I built the two packs into a copper-clad case that weighs 9 oz each.  I still would like to add a voltage monitoring circuit so I can tell if I am getting close to say, 11 volts in my pack.

My charger provides a constant 1.25 Amp initial charge current until it reaches 4.2V per cell.  Typical charge time for my pack is 3.5 hours.  It switches to constant current after about 1 hour (4 cells).  Charging stops, if I recall, when the current
draw tapers to 1/30th of the initial charging current.  I think the differences in that value determines how "fully" charged the cells become.  The initial charge current does 70 percent of the job while the constant voltage down to 1/30th takes it the
remaining 30 percent of the way to full charge.

Some fast chargers stop at the terminal voltage and do not maintain constant voltage beyond that, but this limits the charged capacity and may affect cell life.

I encourage anyone wanting to experiment with li-ion batteries to do so, but do educate yourself about them.

john

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Date:          Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:47:42 +0200

>To me that is constant voltage. A certain amount of current limiting is
>nothing more than plain common sense and will mostly be to keep the size
>and price of the charger within bounds.

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I can use the Cpack under Win98se in full screen mode.  I don't think
that I did anything special but can't be sure that the MAIN batch file
was not altered in some past life! (G)

I have the icon on my desktop.

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Daniel,

> Now my question: i-mode is a common standard in Japan for some time
> already, so, dear Japanese friends, what are your opinions about
> i-mode? Can we expect some realy useful things from i-mode or is it
> just another thing to play with?

For me i-mode is already a dead end. Because

   - it needs a special cellular.
   - Since Microsoft, DTAG, O2, Compaq, RIM, HP and others announced a
     coorporation (which is a couple of hundred thousend dollars) a few
     weeks ago.

> And (to make this a not totally off-topic thread): Does anyone know on
> what protocols i-mode is based, so may it be possible to use i-mode
> with the LX in the future? At least for some things it couls be really
> useful, such as bidding on ebay, doing online banking etc.

Special kind of WAP, which the i-mode compatible cellular
understands.

Kind regards

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Has anyone tried this modem? I understand it uses 140 mA.

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Richard and Patti Smith wrote:
>
> Hello all;
>
> I'm thinking about buying an HP Omnibook 800-series (? - the
> subnotebook) to go with my 200LX. I don't much about the HP
> Omnibook line, so I was wondering if anyone could answer a few
> questions for me:
>
> 1. What is the fastest model of the 200LX-look-alike

Omnibook 800CT. The BIOS will only work without overlays up
to about 8.1G HD. 8.4G will not work without overlay.

> subnotebook-size Omibook?  What other specs does it have?
> 2. How reliable is the built-in mouse?

Mine is about 3-1/2 years old, no problems but I'm careful.
Others say it is a love/hate item. I say the only thing
better is an external mouse. It beats erasures and touch
pads.

> 3. How hard is it to find additional drivers, etc.?

On CDROM and HP web site.

> 4. What price range would be considered fair?

?

> 5. Are the external drives and accessories always sold
> separately?

Floppy is typical. Some came with docking station, 8X SCSI
CDROM and Xircom 56K modem. Car adaptor is extra.

> 6. What else should I look for/expect?

Comes with either 2.1GB or 4.0GB HD and 16MB. Can be
expanded up to 80MB.
>
> Any other tips of advice would be helpful. Thanks.

I use it all the time in conjunction with my LX. The instant
on/off makes up for lack of speed (166MHz). I consider its
discontinuance similar to the LX, the last representation of
what HP used to be. I have run W31, W95b, W98, WNT and W2K
on it. An up-to-date replacement is

http://www.fujitsupc.com/www/products_notebooks.shtml?products/notebooks/p_series

> Richard A. Smith

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John,

> I recently found an emulator for Timex/Sinclair Basic called Xtender, =
so
(...)
> Later, (sometime around 1983 or so) I found the Timex./Sinclair 2068
> Color computer with 64K of memory.  I had a lot of fun with that too.  =
I

You certainly know about the Z80 emulator written by Gerton A Lunter =
which
emulates the Timex 2068/ ZX Spectrum. I runs pretty well on the 200LX.
The ZX Spectrum was my first computer and allowed me to learn programming
(Basic, Assembler) and Hardware design (Interfaces where so expensive for =
a
student that I resorted to design and make my own printer interface and
memory expansions).

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I use Acrobat 4.05 with an "Access" plugin under W9x. The
access plugin allows exporting pdf to text. I cannot find
the "access" feature on Acrobat 5.05, nor can I find the
access plugin for verson 4 anymore.

Bob

"Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There is no program available to read PDFs in the
> 200lx but you can try different approaches.
>
> 1) PDF2TXT: Available on SUPER. Will NOT run on the
> 200lx. It needs at least a 386 processor. DPMI is Dos
> Protected Mode I...? which means you need a 386 or
> higher processor to run that program. Use a new
> computer.
>
> 2) Use Adobe acrobat for Windows to copy and paste all
> text to your favorite Word Processor and then save it
> as a *.txt, *.rtf or *.doc which are all formats you
> can read in the palmtop (Use Word 5.5 or View in the
> Palmtop).
>
> 3) send the file to an e-mail address somebody
> mentioned before and you will receive a *.txt file.
>
> 4) if you need some images or photographs included in
> the PDF you can open Adobe acrobat for windows and go
> to the picture you want save. Then press Print on your
> keyboard. Open Paint and click on Paste. You can now
> save the file as as *.jpg which can be opened with
> lxpic in the palmtop.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Inigo
>
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I believe this is the "Accessibility" option (for the visually impaired,
etc.). There is information (and downloads) at http://access.adobe.com/.

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I use Acrobat 4.05 with an "Access" plugin under W9x. The
access plugin allows exporting pdf to text. I cannot find
the "access" feature on Acrobat 5.05, nor can I find the
access plugin for verson 4 anymore.

Bob

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Date:         Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:27:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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I've had no problem with Win95, Win98, Win 98SE, or Win2k. Win XP remains a
problem for me, though.

To Patrick or anyone else who *does* have it running under XP, did you do
anything but a straight install? Were there some arcane XP properties to be
tweaked? I simply executed the install program from Windows Explorer, which
appears to be the exact equivalent of opening a command (simu-DOS) window
and doing it from there.

One other datum-- I'm using XP Home Edition, not Pro.

Larry Mittell


At 11:46 AM 4/24/2002, F. Kaufman wrote:
>I can use the Cpack under Win98se in full screen mode.  I don't think
>that I did anything special but can't be sure that the MAIN batch file
>was not altered in some past life! (G)
>
>I have the icon on my desktop.

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I've never been able to get it to run under win2K .  Did you do anything
special ?

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:09 PM
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> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:06:25 -0700, Larry Mittell wrote:
> >Is anyone successfully running the Connectivity Pack under Win XP? I
> >can't get the Filer to run, though everything else seems to run OK.
>
> Filer in the cpack works fine for me under WinXpPro.
>
> --
> Patrick West, patrickwest3@attbi.com on 04/24/2002
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I am interested in compiling a list of unusual stuff
on the Web. I am not looking for sick stuff, but more
in line with making people crack up in laughter, or
exclaim: "Wow! never thought about that!", or maybe
shake their head in amazement, and reflect on the
human condition <G> (see
http://http://www.instinct.org/cows/pics/cowanim.gif
<g>)

Anyway, creative stuff is wonderful too, and God (and
its High Priestess Nathalie) know - there is plenty of
it.

To see what I mean check out http://www.dumblaws.com/
or http://www.jir.com/ or
http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi or maybe
http://www.montypython.net/cgi-bin/dl2/full.cgi?bookskit.wav
(642K) or http://www.longnow.org/ or
http://www.fourmilab.to/cgi-bin/uncgi/Solar/action?sys=-Sf
or http://www.culture.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en/

If you checked these you'll see a mix of weird,
interesting, fascinating, creative sites - and that's
what I am looking for.

If you came across some interesting, beautiful,
fascinating site - let me know the URL.

Thanks in advance.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more
http://games.yahoo.com/

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is my new email address working? Ignore please.

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http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PCOM/PCG-U1/

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I have not run the connectivity pack under Win 2K pro.  I do use
transfile for backup with no problems

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On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:43:42 +0200, Dzon <dzon@SOFTHOME.NET> wrote:

> But interesting thing: When I do not use my clkup32.sys, I can connect via
> serial port when I set my HP to use half a baudrate set on my desktop, ie
> for example HP uses 4800 while desktop 9600. Doesn't THIS mean my HP works
> exactly at twice frequency of original HP?

The UARTs (serial port interface chips) allow for some
variation in frequency, so I do not believe this is a good test
of the crystal frequency. The percentage difference between the
Times2Tech crystal and a 32MHz crystal is rather small and, I
believe, within the error range that the UARTs can adapt to.
(But I could be wrong, and if I am, I am sure someone will
correct me <g>)

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The thread I started seems to have died out, so please bear with me while I
re-frame my question:

Could those who have the Connectivity Pack filer running successfully under
Windows XP please indicate if they did anything beyond running the HP
installation program in a command window? Were path variables, PIFs, or
other XP arcania changed or added? Anything else?

Everything *but* the filer works okay in my installation.

TIA,
Larry Mittell

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CPACK APP95 with HP-95LX works great under Windows XP Professional, I
see no reason why it will not work under the Home version.

Below is a copy of a message that I sent to the list last February.

Jose M. Valdes R.
http://www.yv5lix.org.ve

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jose M. Valdes R. YV5LIX [mailto:yv5lix@cantv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:38 AM
To: 'HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU'
Subject: Thanks CPACK problem


Hi all.

Thanks to everyone who answered my question, thanks to you all I have
APP95 (CPACK) running and I can again use it to manage the files in my
HP-95LX, all the suggestions and advices were in the right track, the
disk was ok and the problem is with the way the installation file was
compiled.

By the way, APP95 works without problems on a DOS window under Windows
XP Professional.

Best regards to you and yours.

Jose M. Valdes R.

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Andrew,

Software Carousel should work; I had the original version running on an IBM
XT years before I got an LX. Later, I ran the original Thaddeus version in a
DOS 6.22 partition on a Gateway.

Richard


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew" <Subject: Re: Laptop for DOS, how about Omnibook 430?


> > I wanted something for Dos and I know the 400 and 500 series
> > Omnibook aren't that good for Dos.  > Barry
> Did you consider the Omnibook 430? 486-25 with 4 PCMCIA slots.
> One slot is for the C: drive, they work real well with flash memory
> cards.

> I wonder if software carousel would work....
> I believe serious DOS types like the 430 better because it doesn't
> clutter up your RAM with all the built in applications.
> --
> Andrew King
> Ann Arbor Michigan
> technology is the answer, what was the question?
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The Acrobat accessibility plug-in has been replaced for V5.0 with the Save
As XML plug-in available for download at
http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/5.x/SaveAsXMLPlugIn_beta2.ex
e.  With this, you won't have to select the text and copy/paste into another
Windows document.  It can generate files directly in the following formats:

- XML-1.00 without styling
- HTML-4.01 with CSS-1.00
- HTML-3.20 Accessible
- HTML-3.20 without CSS
- XHTML-1.00 with CSS-1.00
- Text-only

Note that this is marked as Beta 2, so it may still have some rough spots.

Alan Striegel

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From: Robert K. Meyer [mailto:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:19 PM

I use Acrobat 4.05 with an "Access" plugin under W9x. The
access plugin allows exporting pdf to text. I cannot find
the "access" feature on Acrobat 5.05, nor can I find the
access plugin for verson 4 anymore.

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for V5.0 with the Save As XML plug-in available for download at <A =
HREF=3D"http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/5.x/SaveAsXMLPlu=
gIn_beta2.exe" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/5.x/Sa=
veAsXMLPlugIn_beta2.exe</A>.&nbsp; With this, you won't have to select =
the text and copy/paste into another Windows document.&nbsp; It can =
generate files directly in the following formats:</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>- XML-1.00 without styling </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- HTML-4.01 with CSS-1.00 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- HTML-3.20 Accessible </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- HTML-3.20 without CSS </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- XHTML-1.00 with CSS-1.00 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- Text-only </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Note that this is marked as Beta 2, so it may still =
have some rough spots.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Alan Striegel</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Robert K. Meyer [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM">mailto:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM</A>]</F=
ONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:19 PM</FONT>
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under W9x. The</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>access plugin allows exporting pdf to text. I cannot =
find</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the &quot;access&quot; feature on Acrobat 5.05, nor =
can I find the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>access plugin for verson 4 anymore.</FONT>
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Hello all;

I have for sale:
    Procomm Plus ver. 2.01 for DOS (1990)
    STILL SEALED IN ORIGINAL SHRINK WRAP, 3.5" diskettes.
Asking:
    $20, plus shipping (or best offer before Mon. Apr 29, 2002).

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Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:10:48 +1200 (NZT)

Hi Everybody. A couple of days ago I received the tip below,
as a "PS" to an e-mail. Today I have tried it, and can say it
works beautifully! You can even have spaces in telephone
numbers.

At first I thought this would not work!! In step 1a a ROBOT/LX
script called dl.scr is written. See that ";" before the "\r"
- I have never seen that in a script before, so I took it
out<G>. But, then, it doesn't work!! I still don't understand
that, but it works every time, even re-dialling quickly!!

It requires robot.exe to be in your dos path.

-----------------
PS: Apropos 'useful routines' - you probably know the 700LX.
It's PhoneBook allows to dial nubers on the Nokia 2110. Using
WWW/LX I may do similar on the 200LX.

1a) Assign following macro to a key of your choice:
{Copy}{F3}{F4}s atd{Paste};\r{Enter}{F2}c:\www\dl.scr{F10}{F9}
{F9}{F6}{More}-

1b) Adjust the path in the macro to reflect your filing, it
should ponit to the SubDIR of WWW/LX containing Robot/LX too. :)

2) Add to AppManager the following:
Name: Dial&-IrDA
Path: c:\www\www.exe Dial -d "!robot c:\www\dl"|180
Comments: ?
Icon: ((see annexe))

3) Edit WWW.CFG and add following 4 lines:
[Dial]
Port=-1
Modem=0
Baud=38400

4) Make your phone sensitive for IrDA and allign it with the
HP200LX, quit the DOS application (if any), start PhoneBook,
search the person you like to call, enter the entry and tab to
the number in question (so it is in reverse video). Now press
the key you used in step 1a). After a few seconds your mobile
dials the chosen number. :)

5) Go back to step 4) as often you like/need/have some money. ;)

Well, since I did it I used it rarely (twice). It's only a
'nice to have'. If I only knew a way to start WWW/LX w/o AppMan.
Feel free to forward the a. m. to HPLX-L (if you test it to be
of a certain degree of usefullness. :)
M.
----------------

I append the icon here. It is called AT_2110.ICN. To install
it with the application just type at_2110.exe for the "Path"
at first, TAB to the icon and then go back and put the "Path"
as shown in step 2.

- whoops the post with the icon got rejected. OK I'll but the
e-amil and icn on my web page.

Works with WWW v3 and v2. v2 would need only |170 instead of
|180 in step 2.

Thanks to "M" there is also a new POSTPDU at
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th
with a new option to restrict POSTPDU to use only one SMS box,
no matter which box is selected (highlighted) when the scrpt
runs.

- Tony

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Subject:      Re: Connectivity pack under Win XP
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I'm sorry I must have forgot to hit reply all on one of the=
 follow up messages.
I have Windows XPpro. My Cpack is in f:\CPACK200


I launch it using the  APP200.BAT file.
details:
03/17/1994  11:42 AM     APP200.BAT    1,270 bytes
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

I use the command line or the file in my computer but not a=
 shortcut.

Filer works fine.


On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:30:42 -0700, Larry Mittell wrote:
>The thread I started seems to have died out, so please bear with=
 me
>while I re-frame my question:
>
>Could those who have the Connectivity Pack filer running
>successfully under Windows XP please indicate if they did=
 anything
>beyond running the HP installation program in a command window?=
 Were
>path variables, PIFs, or other XP arcania changed or added?=
 Anything
>else?
>
>Everything *but* the filer works okay in my installation.
>
>TIA, Larry Mittell
>
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:30:42 -0700, Larry Mittell wrote:
>Could those who have the Connectivity Pack filer running
>successfully under Windows XP please indicate if they did=
 anything
>beyond running the HP installation program in a command window?

No. In fact I didn't install it from disk. I installed from a cd=
 copy of a
zipdisk copy of the already installed cpack.

I hate having floppies go bad. So I installed cpack one fine day,=
 years ago.
I than copied the entire directory to a zipdisk.  A few years=
 later I got an
hp cd-writer  and copied all my stored zipdisks to cd-roms.

After doing a fresh clean install of XpPro I simply copied the=
 directory off
the cd, ran attrib -r *.* on my new directory and started using=
 it.

I don't use a shortcut to start it because at sometime in the=
 past I had trouble
with it when using shortcuts and simply got in the habit of=
 starting it by using the
command line or the object in "My Computer".   However I just mad=
 a shortcut and
started it from the shortcut and it ran fine.


>>Were path variables, PIFs, or other XP arcania changed or=
 added?
no.

>>Anything else?
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Good stuff, Avi. I enjoyed the links, all of them. I particularly enjoyed
the Python skit. I thought I'd heard them all, but I didn't remember that one.

Please continue to collect those links and let us know about them.

Thanks,
Larry Mittell


At 08:04 PM 4/24/2002, A. Meshar wrote:
>I am interested in compiling a list of unusual stuff
>on the Web. I am not looking for sick stuff, but more
>in line with making people crack up in laughter, or
>exclaim: "Wow! never thought about that!", or maybe
>shake their head in amazement, and reflect on the
>human condition <G>

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FLUFF: for Avi's web site collection

Ok Avi, I'll walk a mile in youse shoes. That way, when I criticize you,
you're a mile away and I have your shoes! :)

 >Avi wrote:
 "Anyway, creative stuff is wonderful too, and God (and its High Priestess
Nathalie) know - there is plenty of it."

trying to entice me out of lurking, he? i'm busy trying to find a
replacement LX for my mugged friend in Paris (no wonder my sister voted for
Le Pen)

ok.. interesting websites.. - it all depends on what makes one 'klick' or
'come', but for Avi i think...

   http://www.thegreatillusion.com

...might do the trick

 love ***
 Nathalie

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Try these two:

http://www.aviationpics.de/     Unusual Aviation Pictures

Don't look at this site if you are going on a business trip any time soon.

Check out "Spectacular Approaches"   Note the photo with the checkerboard
target on the mountainside.  It is on approach to the old Kai Tak airport in Hong
Kong.
Fly directly at target, turn right at the last instant, land 10 seconds later.
You haven't LIVED until you've done it in a Force 3 Typhoon at night.
(with Mom on board)


http://www.asciimation.co.nz/  Star Wars Asciimation

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Fri, 26 Apr 2002 19:56:05 +1200 (NZT)

08h14m05s ago ...
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:42:00 +1200 (NZT), Tony Hutchins wrote:

> - whoops the post with the icon got rejected. OK I'll but the
> e-mail and icn on my web page.

Updated now. See "PBK2CELL" at
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th

Also I added "PEDIAL" which will dial cellular/landline from
PalEdit, and "PTHREAD", a simple thread extractor for POST/LX.
CLOCKS is just updated too, along with POSTPDU.

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hi,

Three things:

1) I have a 2Mb 200LX English on short auction on eBay, with 20Mb
Sundisk card and conn. cable
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1348853769

2) Reason for selling is that I now have a 700LX - what do people use
to carry them in?  They're scarcely "pocket sized" :)

3) How can I change from digest to regular sized list membership?  Is
there a majordomo commeand, or do I need to unscribe and then
resubscribe?

4)Nothing.  There is no fourth thing! [for all you Monty Python fans...]


Thanks,

Stuart

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"BluetoothTM Pocket Server saves data to a 5GB 1.8-inch HDD able to store
almost 37 hours of MPEG-4 moving images or 1,000 pieces of music, but it
is small enough and light enough to slip into a shirt pocket for 385USD."

www.nikkeibp.asiabiztech.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/news/181743

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Radek Svagr wrote:

> I am going to add switching off the screen when
> doing the night backup:-)
> The compressing of files will be much faster.

Your palmtop runs 25% faster if you switch to the HP95LX
compatibility screen mode. Even programs, not using the screen
at all during the hard work (compilers, pkzip...) are running
25% faster.

I call it Palmtop folklore, because it has been discussed
here years ago.

To switch the screen to the 95LX mode, write a small ASM program:

mov ax,0020h ;select HP95
int 10h      ;set it
int 20h      ;exit

AFAIK there is no built in tool or program to switch the screen
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Beautiful!

If anyone wants to try here is "compiled" program:

B8 20 00 CD 10 CD 20

Just create a COM file using a hex editor and fill it with these values.


Radek





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Radek Svagr wrote:

> I am going to add switching off the screen when
> doing the night backup:-)
> The compressing of files will be much faster.

Your palmtop runs 25% faster if you switch to the HP95LX
compatibility screen mode. Even programs, not using the screen
at all during the hard work (compilers, pkzip...) are running
25% faster.

I call it Palmtop folklore, because it has been discussed
here years ago.

To switch the screen to the 95LX mode, write a small ASM program:

mov ax,0020h ;select HP95
int 10h      ;set it
int 20h      ;exit

AFAIK there is no built in tool or program to switch the screen
to the HP95 mode.

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i think i saw a post .. about
editing exe files ..

there is a program .. two ..
maybe three .. which i collected
in my travails ..

hexit.com or such ..

does the job .. perfectly ..

if it is of use .. where to upload
it ?

Daniel ?

..pk

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> See that ";" before the "\r"
> - I have never seen that in a script before,

A semicolon as a last character in a dial string means "and keep talking to
me". Without it the modem will try to pass everything you type on to the
other side and not listen to any of it, with a semicolon it expects further
commands. (There is a somewhat compicated back door to get the modem's
attention back though: a pause followed by three "+" (configurable to
something else) followed by another pause.

BTW: My 700 has all that in ROM and I need not even bother with IR
precision pointing exercises.

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Dream on ;-}

On the off chance - - I checked Toshiba's site for a MS-DOS driver for =
their PA3053E PCMCIA Bluetooth card.  No luck.

Mike

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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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"BluetoothTM Pocket Server saves data to a 5GB 1.8-inch HDD able to =
store
almost 37 hours of MPEG-4 moving images or 1,000 pieces of music, but it
is small enough and light enough to slip into a shirt pocket for =
385USD."=20

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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, pk sharma wrote:

> i think i saw a post .. about
> editing exe files ..
>
> there is a program .. two ..
> maybe three .. which i collected
> in my travails ..
>
> hexit.com or such ..

hexit is a shareware, so you have to get the authorization to distribute
it, and provide the whole package (with license text, documentation,
etc...)

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Hexit can be found on Simtel. However it needs 386+, so for 200lx is=20
useless.

Radek





On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, pk sharma wrote:

> i think i saw a post .. about
> editing exe files ..
>
> there is a program .. two ..
> maybe three .. which i collected
> in my travails ..
>
> hexit.com or such ..

hexit is a shareware, so you have to get the authorization to distribute
it, and provide the whole package (with license text, documentation,
etc...)

--=20
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After several years of treating my lx as an interesting
curiosity and fun hobby, lately I've begun using it as a real
tool. I download my Outlook appointments daily to the lx.
Yesterday I installed Buddy, mainly to get the Fn-* macro to
access my appointment daily greeting on demand.

The Fn-* is really cool. What features of Buddy are your
favorites?

Regards,
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I would start implementing application specific macros.

Huge time saver.

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Sent:   Friday, April 26, 2002 9:34 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:             New Buddy

After several years of treating my lx as an interesting
curiosity and fun hobby, lately I've begun using it as a real
tool. I download my Outlook appointments daily to the lx.
Yesterday I installed Buddy, mainly to get the Fn-* macro to
access my appointment daily greeting on demand.

The Fn-* is really cool. What features of Buddy are your
favorites?

Regards,
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I read somewhere that the European i-mode implementation will use GPRS, so I
wouldn't really expect it to be either exactly the same as that in Japan, or
all that different from WAP over GPRS.

Although much has been talked about the commercial success of i-mode in Japan,
I suspect that this is mostly due to the service providers making better use
of applications, better Web interoperability and free e-mail with pager-style
notification (there is no SMS equivalent).  There's no denying that those
keitai are cool with built in CCD cameras and MIDI synth ring tones.  Hide
that Nokia, for they'll laugh!

The majority of these things could have been accomplished with WAP had the
service providers thought about it /before/ launching services.  I think
European i-mode will be a flop, given the state of the phone market here.

Oh, this was supposed to be about LX interoperability; I don't think that the
protocols will change at that level, so it'll still run PPP over IrDA or
RS232, I guess.

Michael

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> I wrote:
>
> > i-mode is currently coming. The German network provider E-Plus is the
> > first who offers i-mode. I don't know much about i-mode, except that
>
> oops, I meant E-Plus is the first on _in_Germany_. Don't know about
> other countries.
>

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At 4/26/02 +0200, you wrote:
>FLUFF: for Avi's web site collection
>
>Ok Avi, I'll walk a mile in youse shoes. That way, when I criticize you,
>you're a mile away and I have your shoes! :)

ROFL, good one.

>(no wonder my sister voted for Le Pen)

Was he mugged by a Socialist? <G> I doubt Le Pen will win, but even if he
does, I doubt he has the depth (intellectual, support, political) to bring
about any changes in the society to prevent muggings... It would be of
course highly ironic if the muggers were not immigrants, but Le Pen'nists
<G>...

>ok.. interesting websites.. - it all depends on what makes one 'klick' or
>'come', but for Avi i think...
>
>    http://www.thegreatillusion.com
>
>...might do the trick

This is a beautifully executed website, especially the illusion surrounding
your face... Thank you! What a lovely start for this list!!!

Avi

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At 4/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Try these two:
>
>http://www.aviationpics.de/   Unusual Aviation Pictures
>
>Don't look at this site if you are going on a business trip any time soon.
>
>Check out "Spectacular Approaches"   Note the photo with the checkerboard
>target on the mountainside.  It is on approach to the old Kai Tak airport
>in Hong Kong. Fly directly at target, turn right at the last instant, land
>10 seconds later. You haven't LIVED until you've done it in a Force 3
>Typhoon at night. (with Mom on board)

You may not live AFTER such a landing either! Phew... These pictures made
me break out in a sweat... Definitely an addition!

Ok, I have two, no, three, aviation-related items from my own collection:

http://www.alwaysafe.com/fun/LONDON~11.doc  - it is a bit over 525K, and
you can open it in WordPad. Click on the speaker symbols to hear.
Recommended to read the narrative. A bit off color, but worth it.

http://www.alwaysafe.com/fun/index.html#clearintent  - this is rather
self-explanatory.

http://www.alwaysafe.com/fun/index.html#sonicboom  - check out the
supersonic Cessna too... <g>

>http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ Star Wars Asciimation

ROFL... Nice job. Someone really worked hard at this...

This Unusual WWW list is off to a good start... Thank you.

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when I want to choose addresses in the post.adr I sometimes get a
not found message but the string is present in an address.
For example I search captain. When I type ca the search bar jumps
to the next string that fits, but when I type cap I get the not
found message.
But if I press ca + shift-p the item is found.
the name is not typed in capitals in post.adr though

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Subject: Re: not every DS is DS:-)


> If anyone wants to try here is "compiled" program:
>
> B8 20 00 CD 10 CD 20
>
> Just create a COM file using a hex editor and fill it with
these values.

I've made a batch file that will do it.
Save everything between the lines as set95.bat and then run it.
To restore from 95lx mode type mode CO80  (for COlor 80)

I suggest cutting and pasting this into a batch file because a
typo could crash your computer.  It probably wouldn't do any
harm but you never know.  Don't include the lines themselves.
This can be used as often as you like.

Barry

----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
echo a > 95.dbg
echo mov ax,20 >> 95.dbg
echo int 10 >> 95.dbg
echo int 20 >> 95.dbg
echo. >> 95.dbg
echo rcx >> 95.dbg
echo 7 >> 95.dbg
echo n go95.com >> 95.dbg
echo w >> 95.dbg
echo q >> 95.dbg
echo . >> 95.dbg

d:\dos\debug < 95.dbg
go95
del go95.com
----------------------------------------------------------------
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At 4/26/02 +0200, you wrote:
>when I want to choose addresses in the post.adr I sometimes get a
>not found message but the string is present in an address.
>For example I search captain. When I type ca the search bar jumps
>to the next string that fits, but when I type cap I get the not
>found message.

maybe because FOLLOWING the location where you are currently there is NO
"cap"?

>But if I press ca + shift-p the item is found.

Because it is searching BACKWARDS?

Avi

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Hi all,

After years of being an Outlook Guru (well of sorts), and using the
Outlook synch. utils w/ some success (any "issues" were usually *mine* not
the program creators), I've moved to a new job and "we" use GroupWise
here. :-(

I've never used GroupWise before. It looks like it does many of the things
Outlook did (some not as well) and might do more ... I don't know enough
to knock or priase it.

What I *don't* see is any way to export things from GroupWise... I'm
guessing that's the only "conduit" I'll have, but perhaps someone's
already found a solution?

Any help would be appreciated (BTW, my company issued laptop is running
Win95; so many of the current commercial synch solutions prob. won't run.
I'm working on plans for an OS upgrade!).

TIA,

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hello alfredo

u remember ? thanks guys ..
solved ..
domain names :
pksharma.com pradeepsharma.com
pradeepkumarsharma.com   SharmaS.Com
comnetresources.com nandinisharma.com

cost : $8 per year and $6.99 per year (10years)
hosting : $19.90 per year with huge webspace
web resources : www.xoom.it unlimited space

just thought it may help others too !

many thanks to those who helped ! so many !

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Does anyone know of any large seriff fonts for VR? larger
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Thanks.

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hello Avi,

thank you for yourr quick reply.

hplxmail@alwaysafe.com schrieb =FCber Re: search problem in Post/lx=20
addresses:

> At 4/26/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >when I want to choose addresses in the post.adr I sometimes get a
> >not found message but the string is present in an address.
> >For example I search captain. When I type ca the search bar jumps
> >to the next string that fits, but when I type cap I get the not
> >found message.
>=20
> maybe because FOLLOWING the location where you are currently there is =
NO=20
> "cap"?

no.

>=20
> >But if I press ca + shift-p the item is found.
>=20
> Because it is searching BACKWARDS?

no.

but I found out what is going on now. It is the letter "p" which is=20
the problem. If I press p, there appears "oo" on the screen.=20
All other letters are displayed o.k, but the "p" is changed to two=20
"o". If I press shift - p, all goes o.k. and I see "p".

Maybe it is a problem of my version 2 of post/lx?

Avi, if you confirm this, I am really collecting reasons to=20
upgrade.

cheers,
Werner OE9FWV


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Patrick's method works for him, but not for me. I bodily lifted a
successful Win 98 installation of Cpack and wrote it to my XP laptop.
Unfortunately, I got exactly the same disappointing result as I did before.
When I attempt to run the filer by hitting "enter" with the filer icon
highlighted, the Application Manager screen goes away for an instant, then
comes back as if nothing had happened. But everything else works fine.

Is anyone besides Patrick using Cpack200 successfully under XP? If so, did
you do anything special before, during or after installation?

Thanks,
Larry Mittell

At 05:51 PM 4/25/2002, Patrick West wrote:
>No. In fact I didn't install it from disk. I installed from a cd copy of a
>zipdisk copy of the already installed cpack.

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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:33:45 -0500Reply-To:     TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM, Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> The Fn-* is really cool. What features of Buddy are your
> favorites?

Too many to list. Running an LX without Buddy is like a day
without sunshine. <G>

One of the first features I miss when I use an LX without
Buddy is Menu-dot to close an application. Then Menu-Shift-DEL
to close System Manager. Also the programmable File Open keys.
And also the set of Macro keys. Then the battery times and
the World Time overlay for day and night. The list just goes
on and on. Some of the Buddy features are now available as
separate programs from other people, but Buddy gives you those
and more.

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02h38m31s ago ...
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:33:33 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> but I found out what is going on now. It is the letter "p" which is
> the problem. If I press p, there appears "oo" on the screen.

Werner, perhaps you also use "p" to activate POSTPDU?

I found this in POSTPDU.DOC ;-)

------
'p' may be pressed from list view or message view in the SM
inbox or outbox, or from the main POST/LX screen when the SMS
box is selected by the highlight. Pressing `p' in other places
can lead to unexpected results - for example when searching
for an e-mail address. If this becomes a problem you can change
the macro or remove it and use Ctrl-X p.

Shift-p is a safe key to use. Just replace the #1970 above
with #1950.
------

You found an alternative answer - to use shift-p in the address
search :)

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>>When I attempt to run the filer by hitting "enter" with the filer icon
>>highlighted, the Application Manager screen goes away for an instant, then
>>comes back as if nothing had happened. But everything else works fine.

check the task list it may be running but not displayed on the screen use
ctrl alt del to display the task list

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WinXP has an on skreen KB.
Desktop By CHRIS GAITHER NYT  4/26/02
Each generation of hand-held computers gets a little
better at sustaining its users between visits to their
PC's. But a model by the OQO Corporation, which is
based in San Francisco, has ambitions to replace its
desktop counterpart.
The device, which weighs nine ounces, has many features
of a hand-held device, including a four-inch color
screen with a soft keyboard for entering data with the
thumbs. At its heart is a 1-gigahertz Crusoe
microprocessor by Transmeta, a 10-gigabyte hard drive
and 256 megabytes of memory. It runs the Windows XP
operating system, has ports for FireWire and U.S.B.
connections, and connects to wireless networks through
Bluetooth and 802.11b, also known as Wi-Fi.
"It's meant to be your computer," said Colin Hunter, an
executive vice president at OQO (pronounced letter for
letter), founded by former engineers from Apple
Computer's PowerBook group and I.B.M.'s research
laboratories.
The computer is expected to go on sale in time for the
holidays for $1,000 to $1,400. The price includes a
cradle, with two more FireWire and U.S.B. ports, for
docking with a desktop monitor, keyboard and mouse. For
those who miss the feel of a notebook computer, the
device snaps into a case (sold separately) with a
built-in keyboard and notebook-size monitor.

yor pal al...........................................................
 > Modular PC Downsizes the Computer
>
>But is does not have a keyboard in that package size and weight.

Right! Tiny kbds can be acquired. I assume, but it is speculation only,
that they have, or could have, a software keyboard which you could tap and
use to input that way.

>And, frankly, if its fonts are not much larger than those on the IBM
>PC110, it will be hard on OLDER eyes (G) Also, that screen seems very
>unprotected from inadvertant damage.

Good point: The IBM PC110 screen diagonal dimension is about 4.75". As fpr
protection, nah! This is probably a prototype, and they may have a cover
for it.

>What will the docking devices cost?

You don't need a docking station! The doc is probably something that has in
it cables for a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. They intend that you use
this as a PDA, and when in your office, for example, just connect to
full-size kbd, monitor and away you go.





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<P>WinXP has an on skreen KB.
<P>Desktop By CHRIS GAITHER NYT&nbsp; 4/26/02
<P>Each generation of hand-held computers gets a little
<P>better at sustaining its users between visits to their
<P>PC's. But a model by the OQO Corporation, which is
<P>based in San Francisco, has ambitions to replace its
<P>desktop counterpart.
<P>The device, which weighs nine ounces, has many features
<P>of a hand-held device, including a four-inch color
<P>screen with a soft keyboard for entering data with the
<P>thumbs. At its heart is a 1-gigahertz Crusoe
<P>microprocessor by Transmeta, a 10-gigabyte hard drive
<P>and 256 megabytes of memory. It runs the Windows XP
<P>operating system, has ports for FireWire and U.S.B.
<P>connections, and connects to wireless networks through
<P>Bluetooth and 802.11b, also known as Wi-Fi.
<P>"It's meant to be your computer," said Colin Hunter, an
<P>executive vice president at OQO (pronounced letter for
<P>letter), founded by former engineers from Apple
<P>Computer's PowerBook group and I.B.M.'s research
<P>laboratories.
<P>The computer is expected to go on sale in time for the
<P>holidays for $1,000 to $1,400. The price includes a
<P>cradle, with two more FireWire and U.S.B. ports, for
<P>docking with a desktop monitor, keyboard and mouse. For
<P>those who miss the feel of a notebook computer, the
<P>device snaps into a case (sold separately) with a
<P>built-in keyboard and notebook-size monitor.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>yor pal al...........................................................
<P>&nbsp;&gt; Modular PC Downsizes the Computer<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;But is does not have a keyboard in that package size and weight.<BR><BR>Right! Tiny kbds can be acquired. I assume, but it is speculation only,<BR>that they have, or could have, a software
keyboard which you could tap and<BR>use to input that way.<BR><BR>&gt;And, frankly, if its fonts are not much larger than those on the IBM<BR>&gt;PC110, it will be hard on OLDER eyes (G) Also, that screen seems very<BR>&gt;unprotected from inadvertant
damage.<BR><BR>Good point: The IBM PC110 screen diagonal dimension is about 4.75". As fpr<BR>protection, nah! This is probably a prototype, and they may have a cover<BR>for it.<BR><BR>&gt;What will the docking devices cost?<BR><BR>You don't need a docking
station! The doc is probably something that has in<BR>it cables for a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. They intend that you use<BR>this as a PDA, and when in your office, for example, just connect to<BR>full-size kbd, monitor and away you
go.<BR><BR></P><p><br><hr s
ize=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
<a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/welcome/*http://health.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Health</a> - your guide to health and wellness
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14h03m14s ago ...
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:58:55 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > See that ";" before the "\r"
> > - I have never seen that in a script before,
>
> A semicolon as a last character in a dial string means "and keep talking to
> me".

Oh, that must be the origin of it's use for cellular - I now
see in the 2110 Datacard manual that it is indeed required for
all voice calls.

But for a regular modem I do't think it's required for "voice"
calls - there it is a means of sending really long numbers,
broken into sections.

> BTW: My 700 has all that in ROM and I need not even bother
> with IR precision pointing exercises.

Yup the 700 is a great machine.

I added a "PEDIAL" to my web page too - an addon for PE which
will dial out through the port that setcom.bat finds first.
So, it would dial a cellular connected via wire.

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Nope. The only thing running is command.com.

I got a brain wave and rebooted the PC with a DOS startup disk. When I do
that, everything in CPACK runs, including the filer. The trouble is that it
thinks Laplink is running, so F6 and F10 don't work. Thus, I can't connect
to the LX.

Larry Mittell

At 06:05 PM 4/26/2002, Larry Tachna wrote:
> >>When I attempt to run the filer by hitting "enter" with the filer icon
> >>highlighted, the Application Manager screen goes away for an instant, then
> >>comes back as if nothing had happened. But everything else works fine.
>
>check the task list it may be running but not displayed on the screen use
>ctrl alt del to display the task list

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:55:52 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> that was not ideal because I had problems with the graphics, related to
> a bug in the PAL libraries, so this bug is now in all PAL applications.
> But it is only visible in some cases and ONLY if you run under a
> palmtop emulator.

Daniel,

Can you tell me more about this bug? I have always had problems
running some PAL applications on both my 800CT and 530 using
PALRUN or CGAGRAPH or INT5F.

Is there any work around?

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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:33:28 -0700 Larry Mittell wrote:
>When I attempt to run the filer by hitting "enter" with the filer icon
>highlighted, the Application Manager screen goes away for an instant, then
>comes back as if nothing had happened. But everything else works fine.

I have the same problem on WinXP Home, I just discovered. I just
discovered it because I never use Filer. What do you use it for?

If you just want to transfer files, the program W32FILER (available
from SUPER) works really well. It runs on the desktop in console (DOS)
mode, and emulates a palmtop waiting in Filer for a connection. So you
start your 200LX in Filer, hit "Connect", and transfer files to/from
your PC while working at the LX.

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Tim,

> I've never used GroupWise before......

> What I *don't* see is any way to export things from GroupWise... I'm
> guessing that's the only "conduit" I'll have, but perhaps someone's
> already found a solution?

I used GroupWise while employed with the State of Georgia. The
interface I was able to get working on the palmtop was WEB
based. I used HV to negotiate my way past the login screen and
frames. The frames were a bit of a nuisance but I was able to
tab through to the messages I needed to read.  As far as I know
there is no way to export the messages to the palmtop. Exporting
from GW is in proprietary format. I was able to reply to the
messages by using the userID@gw.department.state.us email
address in POST/LX.

Hope this helps,

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So Larry, are you running XP-home or Pro?

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:37:16 -0500, Curtis Cameron wrote:
>I have the same problem on WinXP Home, I just discovered. I=
 just
>discovered it because I never use Filer. What do you use it=
 for?
>
>On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:33:28 -0700 Larry Mittell wrote:
>>When I attempt to run the filer by hitting "enter" with the=
 filer
>>icon highlighted, the Application Manager screen goes away for=
 an
>>instant, then comes back as if nothing had happened. But=
 everything
>>else works fine.
>
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hi Tony,

On 27 Apr 2002 at 12:17, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> ------
> 'p' may be pressed from list view or message view in the SM
> inbox or outbox, or from the main POST/LX screen when the SMS
> box is selected by the highlight. Pressing `p' in other places
> can lead to unexpected results - for example when searching
> for an e-mail address. If this becomes a problem you can change
> the macro or remove it and use Ctrl-X p.
>
> Shift-p is a safe key to use. Just replace the #1970 above
> with #1950.
> ------

you hit the nail on its head !

>
> You found an alternative answer - to use shift-p in the address
> search :)

yes you are right again. But the better solution will be to change
the makro for pdu to shift-p I think.
I must have been confused that I did not think of this. But my
thoughts are caught by another problem in the moment. My 64MB Palmtop
has a problem with the extension board and last night I tried to
repair it. With no avail :-(
need to send it to Tom Rundel I think.

cheers,
Werner

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Tim Schweikert wrote:
> For HP Staber:
>
> Do you only want GP on the Jornada?  I've been using the built in POP3
>  client as well as IE for web mail and it works just fine for me.

I was running PocketOutlook for some three weeks and experienced a lot
of difficulties with download sessions terminating and with deleting
read mails from the server.

I was receiving e-mails with multiple attachments where the first
attachment always got scrambled. When I could not get the profit and
loss statement for the first quarter I fired up POST/LX on the LX and
put the J720 aside :(

>  reading, run into an interesting link, click on the link, and have IE
>  start up and connect to the url - really convenient.   and I have a

Pocket IE is probably one of the few applications which are usefull.

> At first I was going to work a lot harder on getting PocketDOS going
>  with all of the applications I normally used on the HP200LX, but
>  applications like ListPro and HandDBase or VisualCE work well enough
>  to satisfy the immediate needs at work.    I starting using HanDBase

A lot of software does not work as I have a German version of the J720.
HanDBase would not install here.

>  I already had the English-German version.   I guess what I'm trying
>  to say is that I miss the size of the HP200LX, and the battery life,
>  but there are real advantages to the J720 or J568.  Each person has
>  to decide for themselves what they need.

Correct.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Thomas Rundel wrote:
>
> HP,
>
> all of WWW/LX is quite slow under PocketDOS, but you may try to run it
> under Palrun to make it a bit faster. This worked for me on a Jornada
> 720 (even though I don't use that and mory).

PocketDOS already emulates the HP200LX. What would be the purpose of
running palrun on top of it ?

I will try but I am backing away from the J720 now that exchange with
outlook is up and running.

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Jacques Belin wrote:
> > Jacques, so sorry to hear you've been mugged. Are you ok?
>
> Yes, no great problems.

Thats good to hear.

> Some frenchs think the opposite (see our presidential campaign, where
> the security subject has eclipsed all the rest, we see the result =
now...)

After what the French government did to us two years ago we are
considering to put a ban on France here in Austria ;-)

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> After what the French government did to us two years ago we are
> considering to put a ban on France here in Austria ;-)

would you precise us what has our gov. done to you 2 years ago ?

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Good Morning,

Is it possible for a 200lx to have a serial number SG0xxxxxxx?
This would imply a 1990 year of manufacture and I'm not sure if
the 200lx was made then?

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
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On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Marc BERLIOUX wrote:

> > After what the French government did to us two years ago we are
> > considering to put a ban on France here in Austria ;-)
>
> would you precise us what has our gov. done to you 2 years ago ?

Sorry, the following will be in french :(

On s'est foutu de leur gueule, on s'est pos=E9 en donneurs de le=E7ons, c=
omme
on le fait habituellement.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Your palmtop runs 25% faster if you switch to the HP95LX
> compatibility screen mode. Even programs, not using the screen
> at all during the hard work (compilers, pkzip...) are running
> 25% faster.
>
> To switch the screen to the 95LX mode, write a small ASM program:
>
> mov ax,0020h ;select HP95
> int 10h      ;set it
> int 20h      ;exit

How do you switch it back?  Will "MODE bw80" do it?

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Nuked the Aussies backyard maybe ( by the known nuclear bomber monsieur
Chirac)?

Michel ( neither aussie nor french..)

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> After what the French government did to us two years ago we are
> considering to put a ban on France here in Austria ;-)

would you precise us what has our gov. done to you 2 years ago ?

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> Stefan Peichl wrote:
> > Your palmtop runs 25% faster if you switch to the HP95LX
> > compatibility screen mode. Even programs, not using the
screen
> > at all during the hard work (compilers, pkzip...) are
running
> > 25% faster.
> >
> > To switch the screen to the 95LX mode, write a small ASM
program:
> >
> > mov ax,0020h ;select HP95
> > int 10h      ;set it
> > int 20h      ;exit
>
> How do you switch it back?  Will "MODE bw80" do it?

I would use MODE co80.  That puts it in CGA mode which is
compatible with most things and gives you graphics.  MODE bw80
puts you in MDA mode and that has no graphics.  Also a lot of
programs won't support it.

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I am glad it was found to not be a problem of Post/LX.

avi


At 4/27/02 +0200, you wrote:
>hi Tony,
>
>On 27 Apr 2002 at 12:17, Tony Hutchins wrote:
>
> > ------
> > 'p' may be pressed from list view or message view in the SM
> > inbox or outbox, or from the main POST/LX screen when the SMS
> > box is selected by the highlight. Pressing `p' in other places
> > can lead to unexpected results - for example when searching
> > for an e-mail address. If this becomes a problem you can change
> > the macro or remove it and use Ctrl-X p.
> >
> > Shift-p is a safe key to use. Just replace the #1970 above
> > with #1950.
> > ------
>
>you hit the nail on its head !
>
> >
> > You found an alternative answer - to use shift-p in the address
> > search :)
>
>yes you are right again. But the better solution will be to change
>the makro for pdu to shift-p I think.
>I must have been confused that I did not think of this. But my
>thoughts are caught by another problem in the moment. My 64MB Palmtop
>has a problem with the extension board and last night I tried to
>repair it. With no avail :-(
>need to send it to Tom Rundel I think.
>
>cheers,
>Werner
>
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Maybe it is a 6? or a 9? As you observe 0 makes no sense putting the
manufacture year at 1990 or 2000. Hmmmm... unless they still manufactured
some in 2000? I doubt it.

At 4/27/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Good Morning,
>
>Is it possible for a 200lx to have a serial number SG0xxxxxxx?
>This would imply a 1990 year of manufacture and I'm not sure if
>the 200lx was made then?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Regards,
>Tom Salwasser
>
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Works like a charm. Great solution.

Thanks,
Larry Mittell

At 09:37 PM 4/26/2002, Curtis Cameron wrote:
>If you just want to transfer files, the program W32FILER (available
>from SUPER) works really well. I

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> But for a regular modem I do't think it's required for "voice"
> calls - there it is a means of sending really long numbers,
> broken into sections.

For all modems I have ever read the command tables of, the semicolon is
defined in the dial string and always has the same meaning. Remember
that the modem assumes that everything after the ATD... is meant for the
other side, so for your long numbers too you might interpret the
semicolon as "keep listening, I have more to say to you".
I always use my Zyxel to dial when phoning people (from an Atari
Database in an emulated Atari on the W98 notebook - still looking for
anything to come even near that program) and I need the semicolon so the
modem accepts my ATH to pass the call on to the handset. The batch used
is (this is the long one, for calling up banks, te2$ in the database
holds the number and tx1$ everything needed to idenfy myself to the
bank):

--------------------------------------------------------------------
#REPORT W=84hle zweites Telephon
' 01-12-20
' dia$, cod$
'
LET dia$=3D"ATDP0WT"
LET cod$=3D"ATX1S6=3D0S11=3D150DT"
'
DO 5
FIRSTRECORD
PRINT dia$ te2$ ";"
IF tx1$>0
ALERT "[2][Loginfolge senden?][Jetzt|Schlu=9E]"
PRINT cod$ tx1$ ";"
ENDIF
ALERT "[2][H=94rer abgenommen?][Done]"
PRINT "ATHZ0"
ALERT "[2][Wie geht es weiter?][Nochmal|Ende]"
LOOP
'
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Axel

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With all due respect to Daniel Hertich and his LED front
light, and the team that worked on the backlight for the
100/200LX, I think I have found the perfect light for the LX.

Go to:

http://www.scientificsonline.com/Products/Display
Product.cfm?productid=2224.

If the link above is too long, go to:

www.scientificsonline.com and then put the following item
number into the Search box:  CR30332-50

I may establish an award for the first person to post a
picture of himself or herself using this palmtop light with
his or her 95/100/200LX in a public place, such as a
restaurant, etc. No cheating by using the light in the
presence of other LX users only <G> The photo should not be
sent to the list. It should be posted on a private Web site
with only the link included in your list message.

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Sun, 28 Apr 2002 09:30:01 +1200 (NZT)

11h35m38s ago ...
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:54:23 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> I always use my Zyxel to dial when phoning people (from an
> Atari Database in an emulated Atari on the W98 notebook -
> still looking for anything to come even near that program)
> and I need the semicolon so the modem accepts my ATH to
> pass the call on to the handset.

Axel, thanks for that tip!

I never used a computer voice dialer before and was wondering
how to transfer the call to the local handset, on the same
landline. I tried it once, calling myself on another line, but
found myself talking to the modem<G>.

Yup I understand now - that ";" keeps the modem in "command"
mode, listening.

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Marc BERLIOUX wrote:
>
> > After what the French government did to us two years ago we are
> > considering to put a ban on France here in Austria ;-)
>
> would you precise us what has our gov. done to you 2 years ago ?

Ousting Austria in the European community soon after the present gov
coalition was built together with the "right" wing party of Mr Haider.
Chirac and the French gov were among the first to push that. Today your
Le Pen is claiming to be the spiritual father of Haider and Berlusconi
in Italy.

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Even better, albeit more expensive:

http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=8000&prrfnbr=7756984&addon=675909-668271

I issue a similar challenge for someone to take and post a self-portrait in
a public place with this widget firmly strapped to his/her head.<g>

Larry Mitte

At 12:49 PM 4/27/2002, you wrote:
>With all due respect to Daniel Hertich and his LED front
>light, and the team that worked on the backlight for the
>100/200LX, I think I have found the perfect light for the LX.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:

> > To switch the screen to the 95LX mode, write a small ASM program:
> >
> > mov ax,0020h ;select HP95
> > int 10h      ;set it
> > int 20h      ;exit

Russel Brooks wrote:

> How do you switch it back?

mov ax,3     ;select CGA
int 10h      ;set it
int 20h      ;exit

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No thanks. I like my backlit screen and will keep using it. I also
increased the charging current so my batteries charge in less than
a third of the time. Next I'm going to increase the pcmcia current
so I can use higher power cards. Its fun to mess with the LX. To
bad there's such a lack of interest in it. It still kick's pocketpc's butt.

John

On 27 Apr 2002, at 12:49, Victor Roberts wrote:

> With all due respect to Daniel Hertich and his LED front
> light, and the team that worked on the backlight for the
> 100/200LX, I think I have found the perfect light for the LX.
>
> Go to:
>
> http://www.scientificsonline.com/Products/Display
> Product.cfm?productid=2224.
>
> If the link above is too long, go to:
>
> www.scientificsonline.com and then put the following item
> number into the Search box:  CR30332-50
>
> I may establish an award for the first person to post a
> picture of himself or herself using this palmtop light with
> his or her 95/100/200LX in a public place, such as a
> restaurant, etc. No cheating by using the light in the
> presence of other LX users only <G> The photo should not be
> sent to the list. It should be posted on a private Web site
> with only the link included in your list message.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:14:42 -0400
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> The Fn-* is really cool. What features of Buddy are your
> favorites?

One nice thing about Buddy is that it does so many nice things.  I =
personally
never use Fn-*.  I like the automatic page down when I press the down =
arrow key
while using F8-View in Filer.

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Are there any websites describing / documenting hacks like these?  I'm new to the 200LX but I'm eager to tinker with it.

-Stephanie

No thanks. I like my backlit screen and will keep using it. I also
increased the charging current so my batteries charge in less than
a third of the time. Next I'm going to increase the pcmcia current
so I can use higher power cards. Its fun to mess with the LX. To
bad there's such a lack of interest in it. It still kick's pocketpc's butt.

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None of the mods are done yet even though both the charging and backlight
work but I was going to put somethng up once they are. Probably after the
pcmcia one is finished.

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> Are there any websites describing / documenting hacks like these?  I'm new
to the 200LX but I'm eager to tinker with it.
>
> -Stephanie
>
> No thanks. I like my backlit screen and will keep using it. I also
> increased the charging current so my batteries charge in less than
> a third of the time. Next I'm going to increase the pcmcia current
> so I can use higher power cards. Its fun to mess with the LX. To
> bad there's such a lack of interest in it. It still kick's pocketpc's
butt.
>
> John
>
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Subject: Re: Note for the French (Parisians) friends...

The present subject line arises out of the past subject line
quoted above

EACH TO HIS OWN

This List cannot resolve what the UNO can't

So .. with folded hands, bowed head, and eyes
watery eyes .. let me request ..

brothers & sisters of CyberWorld .. unite !

Think ! Feel the Goodness Inside You !
Let THAT be the emotion that overtakes you !
Mother Teresa Syndrome !
Love and Be Loved !
Help and Be Helped ! (many times over)
Be Selfish ! ('self'-ish not 'land'-ish)
CyberWorld is borderless .. And by its
very nature cannot have any boundries !

Check THAT person who won't listen
to you .. that ONE person in the whole
creation .. OneSelf .. isn't he adamant,
and silly !

Don't even think talk or try to set right which
soo many are not able to !

This flame .. STOP .. here !

Please don't post any comments to this
OT : post ! just think ! and do or don't
do .. its all .. UPTO YOU !

(Om ! Shantee .. Shantee .. Shantee !)
(Lord ! Peace  ..    Peace  .. Peace    !)

in all humility !

..pk
         ;-(
       /
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hi Vic,

On 27 Apr 2002 at 12:49, Victor Roberts wrote:

>
> I may establish an award for the first person to post a
> picture of himself or herself using this palmtop light with
> his or her 95/100/200LX in a public place, such as a
> restaurant, etc. No cheating by using the light in the
> presence of other LX users only <G> The photo should not be
> sent to the list. It should be posted on a private Web site
> with only the link included in your list message.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
I use this kind of backlight (in fact it is a Princeton Tec LED
light) quite often when I read on my palmtop when I lie in the bed
and cannot switch on the main light because my wife is already
asleep. She does not like my equipment at all, though.
Does a picture of me defending the headlight and my palmtop also
count for your award? <G>

regards,
Werner

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John Musielewicz wrote:
> I like my backlit screen and will keep using it.
I'd like that, and I do like soldering, but having looked at the display
I'll leave well alone. Are there any offers of having that done yet?

> I also increased the charging current so my batteries
> charge in less than a third of the time.
Could you give out the details? The problem I have is not so much time, but
that at 100 mA my NiMH stay at less then maximum voltage for a long time
and don't give a good full indication, and the three hours I use now do, I
fear, tend to overcharge them.
Am I correct in assuming that after such a modification I had better make
sure, that charging and a modem are not on at the same time?

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> > would you precise us what has our gov. done to you 2 years ago ?
>
> Ousting Austria in the European community soon after the present
> gov coalition was built together with the "right" wing party of Mr
> Haider. Chirac and the French gov were among the first to push
> that. Today your Le Pen is claiming to be the spiritual father of
> Haider and Berlusconi in Italy.

I hope you would do the same for us if Le pen was elected...

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Hi PK

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:41:59 +0530, pk sharma <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN> wrote:

> hexit.com or such ..
>
> does the job .. perfectly ..
>
> if it is of use .. where to upload
> it ?
>
> Daniel ?

please .. send it to super(at)palmtop.net .. with a description,
version number, author name and email .. ;-)

But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

GTX
daniel





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Date:         Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:35:23 +0000
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Axel Berger wrote:

> I always use my Zyxel to dial when phoning people (from an Atari
> Database in an emulated Atari on the W98 notebook - still looking for
> anything to come even near that program)

Do you know LxTel? It has a built in (modem) dialer with
phonebook. For you in Germany it even predials the cheapest
provider at the time of the call.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Do you know LxTel? It has a built in (modem) dialer with
> phonebook.

Even if on top of that it were to supply the smalltalk I'm not very good
at, it would still be useless to me. What good is an empty phonebook? I
need another database to fill and keep current like a hole in the head.
All single purpose programs come with databases - fax, banking,
phone-switchboard, mobile phone card maintainer etc. etc.
The thing is, this one Atari database is so versatile, I can keep all
data about people in one place and do anything from there, or rather
could while using a real Atari as the main machine. One of its beauties
is its ability to use the keyboard buffer as an output medium, thus for
working together with it, all another program (Atari one that is - the
feature does not of course work out of the emulator into windows
programs) needs to be able to do is accept keyboard input - and which
conceivable one isn't? From this one central program I can write
envelopes, print postal forms, dial phone numbers and send
identification, write data files in every conceivable format as long as
I find documentation (HP LX phone.cdf, birthday.cds), type the border
parts of a letter (address, date, customer no., Dear Mr. ...), fill in
bank giro transfer forms (while BTX still worked) plus anything else
anyone can think of doing with data.
The 700 LX is a bit like that - neither the SMS nor the fax programs
hold number data - they look at the phone.pdb where the numbers belong.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:36:54 -0700
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:08:04 +0200, "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET> wrote:

> I use this kind of backlight (in fact it is a Princeton Tec LED
> light) quite often when I read on my palmtop when I lie in the bed
> and cannot switch on the main light because my wife is already
> asleep. She does not like my equipment at all, though.
> Does a picture of me defending the headlight and my palmtop also
> count for your award? <G>

Good try Werner.

Even though I understand how many wives can fail to full
appreciate the virtues of the LX, I don't think your bed
qualifies as a "public place" <G>

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Date:         Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:47:53 -0700
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I have a strap on headlamp (not LED) that I use for camping.
It looks so much more rational then the light I posted that I
feel an award is not appropriate for use of this light <G>
However,I wonder what would happen if I strapped this light on
while flying on an airplane. I would probably be arrested, at
beast, considering today's environment. <g>

Vic Roberts

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 17:01:31 -0700, Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Even better, albeit more expensive:
>
> http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=8000&prrfnbr=7756984&addon=675909-668271
>

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-----Original Message-----
    From: "Radek Svagr" <radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM>
    Sent: 26/04/02 12:47:41 PM

=AB    =20
    If anyone wants to try here is "compiled" program:
   =20
    B8 20 00 CD 10 CD 20
 =BB  =20

Or you can download the exe (1.7MB) from Microsoft's web site.

;-) Sorry - couldn't resist.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:21:07 +0100
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Hi,

Yahoo has now discontinued free POP and Forwarding access. What I did not
understood is that they would also discontinue SMTP access. I need an SMTP
server allowing authentication for use with MochaPPP. It is also much more
convenient when travelling so that you can use any local ISP and keep using
the same SMTP generic setup.

I have found www.xoasis.com which offers this free SMTP service. With the
SMTPFrom clause of WWW/LX I can keep my usual "From" address independently of
which SMTP server I chose.

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It your looking for an external modem this site is still selling the
cellect. I don't know if they have them in stock but it is listed at
19.95.

http://cellphoneaccessoriesonline.net/motcel144poc.html

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Date:         Mon, 29 Apr 2002 00:01:52 +0200
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Le Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:58:33 +0100
HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> a icrit:

> Today your Le Pen is claiming to be the spiritual father of Haider

And as I heard that Haider has rejected this fatherhood, claiming that
Le Pen was more far-right than him, I think we can autorize you to ban
us ! <g>.



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Date:         Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:10:23 -0500
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Testing new email addr./subscription to see if it can post -- please
disregard.
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Hi,

I'm trying to compile and link an exm program but the linker complaint the
following messages,

    Turbo Link Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International
    Undefined symbol 'FIDRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
    Undefined symbol 'FIWRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
    Undefined symbol '_ERRNO' in module IOERROR
    Undefined symbol '__8087' in module COS

The make.bat file I'm using is,
    tcc -c sample
    tlink TCCSTART+sample+TCCLIB, sample, sample,
\TC\LIB\CS.LIB+\TC\LIB\MATHS.LIB
    makeexm sample.map sample.exe 5
    copy sample.exe sample.exm
    del sample.exe


Does anyone know what I have missed out? BTW I'm using Turbo C version 2.01 with
NKIT.
Appreciate all the help, thank you.

Regards,
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> But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
> Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
> face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

Wow.  Please find these wishes for your fast and complete recovery.

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Foo Tek Leong wrote:

> I'm trying to compile and link an exm program but the linker complaint =
the
> following messages,
>
>     Turbo Link Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland Internation=
al
>     Undefined symbol 'FIDRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
>     Undefined symbol 'FIWRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
>     Undefined symbol '_ERRNO' in module IOERROR
>     Undefined symbol '__8087' in module COS

It seems 3 of the 4 missing symbols concern the 8087 arithmetic
coprocessor. You should either simulate it, and link with the code that
actually simulates it, or don't simulate it, and don't run it on a
HP200LX without an emulator.

Don't you also need a c0s.obj linked with?

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Date:         Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:11:49 +0800
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Hi Erwann,

Thank you for you reply. I tried linking with c0s.obj together with EMU.LIB but
now the linker complaint of duplicated modules,

    Turbo Link Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International
    Error: __REALCVTVECTOR defined in module TCCSTART.ASM is duplicated in
module C0S
    Error: _ABORT defined in module TCCSTART.ASM is duplicated in module C0S

Are there any flags to ignore the duplications or I have to rename those
modules?

Regards,
Leong

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Subject:    Re: Linking EXM programs, Help Needed
Author: "Erwann ABALEA" <erwann@abalea.com>
Date:       4/29/02 2:29 PM

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Foo Tek Leong wrote:

> I'm trying to compile and link an exm program but the linker complaint the
> following messages,
>
>     Turbo Link Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International
>     Undefined symbol 'FIDRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
>     Undefined symbol 'FIWRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
>     Undefined symbol '_ERRNO' in module IOERROR
>     Undefined symbol '__8087' in module COS

It seems 3 of the 4 missing symbols concern the 8087 arithmetic
coprocessor. You should either simulate it, and link with the code that
actually simulates it, or don't simulate it, and don't run it on a
HP200LX without an emulator.

Don't you also need a c0s.obj linked with?

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Heelo John,


Can you give some details?

Did you exachanged switching regulator for increasing of recharging
current or did you make some changes to it?

How do you plan to increase power to PCMCIA slot? I was thinking about
some charge pump from Maxim.
They are very small needs only few additional parts and can provide about
5V@300mA form 2 AA bateries.


Radek





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No thanks. I like my backlit screen and will keep using it. I also
increased the charging current so my batteries charge in less than
a third of the time. Next I'm going to increase the pcmcia current
so I can use higher power cards. Its fun to mess with the LX. To
bad there's such a lack of interest in it. It still kick's pocketpc's
butt.

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Having read quite a lot about the backlighting now, and having some spare
screens to experiment on ( missing lines, so first try if backlight works,
then attempt reflow of the loose chips..) I would like to know..::

_ARE_ there any backlight kits available, ifso where and what do they
cost??? I have spare LX parts available for barter if interested.

Direct offers please to me, not to the list. Comments for general interest
please to the list, not only to me...

And are there people with some knowledge on _Frontlights_???

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> Wow.  Please find these wishes for your fast and complete
recovery.
> Fred
Yes Daniel,
and from all of us, even those whom you have never heard from
(like me), but are thanking you for all that you do, with your
legendary kindness !
Denis BLANCHON, in Clermont-Ferrand, France

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I think when you compile a .exm you can't use TC's startup code,
which is c0s.obj.  I haven't used NKIT but I know in the
development kit HP supplied, there's alternate startup code.
It's intended for MS C 6.0 so NKIT may be replacing ith with
TCSTART.asm.  I doubt that you can use c0s.

I do think you'll need emu.lib.

Also I think (I'm not sure I remember this right) that exm's are
supposed to be in medium memory model, not small.  But double
check that before you take my word for it.

Barry



----- Original Message -----
From: "Foo Tek Leong" <leongft@YEOS.COM.MY>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Linking EXM programs, Help Needed


> Hi Erwann,
>
> Thank you for you reply. I tried linking with c0s.obj together
with EMU.LIB but
> now the linker complaint of duplicated modules,
>
>     Turbo Link Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland
International
>     Error: __REALCVTVECTOR defined in module TCCSTART.ASM is
duplicated in
> module C0S
>     Error: _ABORT defined in module TCCSTART.ASM is duplicated
in module C0S
>
> Are there any flags to ignore the duplications or I have to
rename those
> modules?
>
> Regards,
> Leong
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Subject:    Re: Linking EXM programs, Help Needed
> Author: "Erwann ABALEA" <erwann@abalea.com>
> Date:       4/29/02 2:29 PM
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Foo Tek Leong wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to compile and link an exm program but the linker
complaint the
> > following messages,
> >
> >     Turbo Link Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland
International
> >     Undefined symbol 'FIDRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
> >     Undefined symbol 'FIWRQQ' in module SAMPLE.C
> >     Undefined symbol '_ERRNO' in module IOERROR
> >     Undefined symbol '__8087' in module COS
>
> It seems 3 of the 4 missing symbols concern the 8087
arithmetic
> coprocessor. You should either simulate it, and link with the
code that
> actually simulates it, or don't simulate it, and don't run it
on a
> HP200LX without an emulator.
>
> Don't you also need a c0s.obj linked with?
>
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At 4/28/02 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
>Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
>face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

Ouch! Sorry to read this nasty piece of news...  I wish you a speedy recovery!

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Any use of the Densitron Corp., Retroreflector microlens film which is
supposed to triple the brightness of LCD screens.(Sorry, not hip to archive
searches yet). At 14.4,
Adam in NYC

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Daniel,

I wish you well!
-----------------

At 4/28/02 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
>Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
>face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/



Thanks,

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:08:04 +0200 Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>...when I read on my palmtop when I lie in the bed
>and cannot switch on the main light because my wife is already
>asleep. She does not like my equipment at all, though.

By "equipment", you mean...

the HP LX?

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Hallo List,

does anyone use PIM / PE on desktop PC. If so , how do convert
the files to LX ?
In conjunction with Pro as well ?
rgds, Michael

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Hi,

I bet this one is better :)

http://www.dansdata.com/images/shirts/newglowdan440.jpg


It is a very interesting site. Was that a pun?

Cheers,

Inigo



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Hi Daniel,

sad to heasr that. I hope you are doing better now and I wish you a speed=
y
recovery too.
Ruedi

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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Daniel Hertrich
Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. April 2002 11:26
An: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Betreff: Re: editing exe files


Hi PK

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:41:59 +0530, pk sharma <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN>
wrote:

> hexit.com or such ..
>
> does the job .. perfectly ..
>
> if it is of use .. where to upload
> it ?
>
> Daniel ?

please .. send it to super(at)palmtop.net .. with a description,
version number, author name and email .. ;-)

But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

GTX
daniel





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Jacques Belin wrote:
>
> Le Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:58:33 +0100
> HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> a icrit:
>
> > Today your Le Pen is claiming to be the spiritual father of Haider
>
> And as I heard that Haider has rejected this fatherhood, claiming that
> Le Pen was more far-right than him, I think we can autorize you to ban
> us ! <g>.

GGGG

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:26:08 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

Daniel

> But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
> Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
> face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

Wow that is scary. Hope you be okey soon.

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Daniel;

Hi. You need not respond to this, but I just wanted to let you
know that I wish you well and hope you can get back to life
soon. Sorry you're in the hospital. Good luck!

Richard Smith


Daniel wrote:

> But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.

> Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
> face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/
>
> GTX
> daniel

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Daniel:
From yet another "Never Heard From" wanting to wish you well and very
grateful for all you've done, lo these many seemingly decades, for the
community.
Prayers,
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Michael Berrier wrote:
>
> Hallo List,
>
> does anyone use PIM / PE on desktop PC. If so , how do convert
> the files to LX ?
> In conjunction with Pro as well ?

There is no need to convert data files for PIM/PE and PRO/LX. They are
all ASCII

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Hi Daniel,

I too want to thank you for all you've done for HPLX fans around the
world.

I hope you feel better soon, Daniel. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
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Hi,

My Win2000 Compaq desktop doesn't have a serial port and so I purchased a
Belkin USB to RS232 adaptor. I have Transfile + patch installed and the
200LX shows that it is connected but Transfile throws a number of error
messages viz

HP File System
!General error

and then

Drive not ready (no medium installed)

The 200LX works fine standalone and connects via Transfile to a Win98SE
machine without a problem.  Any ideas what I can try next??
Is anyone using a USB-Serial interface successfully?

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.

Daniel, I hope you recover soon and you have good doctors.
Unfortunately medicine is not our field, otherwise I'm sure,
a MEDICINE-L list would come up with good suggestions.

I guess we all know, in every field of expertise, there are
good and not so good ones, but you cannot tell if you are not
a specialist yourself.

Just out of curiosity: how do you manage to receive your email
in the hospital, where mobile phones are usually forbidden?

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> But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
> Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
> face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

I hope you and your face get better without too much trouble.  It sounds =
like
you have Bell's Palsy, and that can take weeks to slowly imrpove.  Best =
Wishes.

 Steven A. Carder M.D. <steve@carderfamily.net>
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Hello All

Quick question re the power supply. Mine stopped working recently. It now
puts out around 2 volts. The palmtop does not recognise it.

I have a multi use power supply and was wondering if I can use that? It is
capeable of many voltage outputs. One of which is 12 Volts.

I have to questions re using this:

1) Volts. I measured the output at the 9 volt setting, and the actual output
is around 11.95 volts. The 12 volt setting puts out around 16.2 volts. Which
one is safest to use?
2) Amps. The multi purpose power supply has 300ma written on it. The HP
supply has 750ma written on it. Should I use the power supply with this
shortage or not.
3) In general, would you recommend using a general purpose power supply, or
purchase a HP one.

Thank You
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Hello

I have hp200lx with wwwlx and postlx 2.0. Is it possible to use the serial
cable to get at the internet using wwwlx? I am interested in sharing the
internet connection I already have for the desktop to download and send some
emails from the palmtop. At the moment, it means two phonecalls a day to get
the desktop and palmtop emails.

Thank You
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:21:52 -0700
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:29:34 -0700, "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" <imazagra@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I bet this one is better :)
>
> http://www.dansdata.com/images/shirts/newglowdan440.jpg

Not only is the light better, but so is Dan <G>

> It is a very interesting site. Was that a pun?

I'm not sure which site you are referring to. The one I posted
or the one you listed?

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:26:08 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> But it can take a while, since I am in the hospital currently.
> Don't know how long I have to stay here. The right half of my
> face is lamed, seems that a virus has infected a nerve.  :-/

Hi Daniel,

I certainly hope you are feeling better very soon and they let
you out of the hospital. Terrible places to have any fun <G>
And, we need you here!

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:33:15 +0200
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Someone - I apologize for being too lazy to look who it was -
recommended a bunch of serial-parallel converter cables offered by
Misses Susan Fulmer here. I have just received one and it looks just
right. (I have not tried it out yet, though I did take it apart. (I have
done things in that order since a little boy, don't try to change me
now.)).
The thing is: It was really cheap at 9 US dollars, but shipping added
another six. On top of that many here will find it as difficult to send
funds to America as I did until recently. Now I am a member of paypal
and have a NewYork Bank account and chequebook. So any Germans or
Europeans wanting one too but not liking the hassle might email me with
a firm order, and should the number make it look sensible I'll try to
send a bulk order and distribute them at cost. Sound reasonable?
I'll let you know whether I could get it to work once I have tried. I'm
going to cut it rather short from the centronics end and fit a male
p-pin with crossed wires to go with the connectivity kit cable. Does
anyone have a use for the tiny (half scale) centronics type 10 pin
connector and cable or a good suggestion for one?

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:56:33 -0700
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At 4/30/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>I have hp200lx with wwwlx and postlx 2.0. Is it possible to use the serial
>cable to get at the internet using wwwlx? I am interested in sharing the
>internet connection I already have for the desktop to download and send
>some emails from the palmtop. At the moment, it means two phonecalls a day
>to get the desktop and palmtop emails.

Look at mochaPPP http://www.mochasoft.dk/f_download.html and scroll to
mppp.zip in the Palm and Visor. You run the program on the desktop (windows
32 bit) and connect via serial port to share the desktop's connection.
Works very well, although can be quirky.

About 4-5 month's ago I wrote a whole post on it, and Daniel also has
something good about it in his website. Good luck.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:35:40 +0200
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Simply: DON'T , you'll risk your LX

Shop for a switched version....

> I have a multi use power supply and was wondering if I can use that? It is
> capeable of many voltage outputs. One of which is 12 Volts.
>

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:40:11 -0400
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Check out eBay.

Just purchased a new HP F1011A adapter for <$20, including shipping.

Michael

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Sent:   Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:57 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:             Power Supply. Use Generic?

Hello All

Quick question re the power supply. Mine stopped working recently. It =
now
puts out around 2 volts. The palmtop does not recognise it.

I have a multi use power supply and was wondering if I can use that? It =
is
capeable of many voltage outputs. One of which is 12 Volts.

I have to questions re using this:

1) Volts. I measured the output at the 9 volt setting, and the actual =
output
is around 11.95 volts. The 12 volt setting puts out around 16.2 volts. =
Which
one is safest to use?
2) Amps. The multi purpose power supply has 300ma written on it. The HP
supply has 750ma written on it. Should I use the power supply with this
shortage or not.
3) In general, would you recommend using a general purpose power supply, =
or
purchase a HP one.

Thank You
David

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:57:06 +0200
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Bel" <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Looking for a backlight kit


| _ARE_ there any backlight kits available, ifso where and what
do they
| cost??? I have spare LX parts available for barter if
interested.
| And are there people with some knowledge on _Frontlights_???

Well, waiting for a backlight, I have used on more than one
occasion the light shown in :

http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=800
0&prrfnbr=7756984&addon=675909-668271

in public places, without adverse effects.

I have also used Daniel's Hertrich LEDlight, a marvel of
simplicity and function, to great satisfaction.

But I was still looking for something where I could just take
the palmtop out of my pocket, and have light.
So I built something myself see:
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/trial1/frontlit.jpg
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/trial1/closed.jpg
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/trial1/openbare2.jpg
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/trial1/opencomplete.jpg
(yes, I know. One of these days, on a website.)
It fits nicely in my jacket's pocket.

Bill of materials:
2 paper clamps
1 brass tube, or rod (3mm dia)
4 leds
4 CR 2032's
a strip of metal (copper, brass, aluminium...)
adhesive tape
a piece of plastic U profile-this is optional for the good(?)
looks <G>

Tooling:
scissors
a soldering iron( you can probably use ahesive tape, but then,
just a little bit of sophistication...  :-)

Modification or opening the palmtop: no.

dimension increase: +5, +14, +10 mm (wxdxh)

You may notice there is no switch in the bill of materals: when
you open the palmtop and rotate the frame, it makes
contact on the  strip.

I only hope this helps to stir more backlight development!
If there is interest, I may put together a more elaborate
explanation - and if someone has more ideas, e.g. for the
battery
pack, or replacing the paper clamps, please let me know.


Etienne
Oh, I also know there should be a resistor somewhere in
the circuit,
but everything seems to work fine: the CR2032 's are paired in
parallel  and then in series, giving me a nominal 6.4v. With all
Led's shining, I measure 3.4v. Your advice is eagerly awaited

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:38:01 -0400
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Avi wrote:

> >
> >Speaking about newton keyboard, which models work together with
> >the LX?
>
> I did not know there were more models than one for the Newton Keyboard. I
> know the one I have works.
>
> >Or is it just to buy whichever?
>
> I don't understand the question.
>

OK, is there only one moedl, then there is ofcourse nothing to
talk about.

Lars

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:38:03 -0400
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Hi everyody

I bought a second hand Ericsson MC12 the other day, anyone
knows a discussiongroup for this one? or atleast for Win CE.



Lars

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:53:06 -0500
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Hi,

I have an MC12 and I think its to hard to find info about that model.
I found more resources searching about the HP320LX since this two devices
are practically same.

Here a list of what I found

http://www.whiten.co.uk/
http://www.mcpt.btinternet.co.uk
this is a great site but I checked it today and no longer exists or are
experiencing problems :(
http://www.pdapad.com/hp.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=hp320lx&hl=es&lr=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=es&q=ericsson+mc12&lr=
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?template=SP1&B=ie&PID=8507&LM=SIM_V&nore
dir=1


I hope it will be help you,


Alfredo Musse T.
media improvement - solutions for the digital world
Tel. (511) 562-0216
amusse@mediaim.com
http://www.mediaim.com






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Hedstroem
Enviado el: Martes, 30 de Abril de 2002 11:38 a.m.
Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Asunto: Ericsson MC12


Hi everyody

I bought a second hand Ericsson MC12 the other day, anyone
knows a discussiongroup for this one? or atleast for Win CE.



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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:01:46 +0200
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:01:23 +1000, David Eggins <lists@EGGINS.COM> wrote:

> I have hp200lx with wwwlx and postlx 2.0. Is it possible to use the serial
> cable to get at the internet using wwwlx? I am interested in sharing the
> internet connection I already have for the desktop to download and send some
> emails from the palmtop. At the moment, it means two phonecalls a day to get
> the desktop and palmtop emails.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/internet_sharing

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:01:47 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends

it was overwhelming to receive so many emails from you wishing me fast
recovery! Thank you alot! I didn't count, but all together I received
about 25 mails from you all!

I'm now back from hospital, at home again, my face is still lamed, and
it will not recover quickly. Probably some weks or months it will
remain lamed (well, only the right half, fortunately).

But fortunately these incredible headaches are gone!
Medical English is not my specialization, but I'll try to explain it a
bit:
The "nerve water" (liquor) has been punctured, and now a bit of that
water is missing around my brain, and that causes headaches. I'm sure
an MD can explain that better.
But now (since I'm back home again) these incredible headaches are
almost gone!

I must do face gymnastics now and I get tabletts against viri. And I
have to be patient. But emailing should be no problem for me anymore.
;-)

Oh, and Stefan: I used the mobile phone to get email in the hospital.
;-) But only for that, when I didn't receive email, the phone was
switched off.

GTX
crooked daniel

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:59:14 +0000
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David Eggins wrote:
> I have a multi use power supply and was wondering if I can use that? It is
> capeable of many voltage outputs. One of which is 12 Volts.
> 1) Volts. I measured the output at the 9 volt setting, and the actual output
> is around 11.95 volts. The 12 volt setting puts out around 16.2 volts. Which
> one is safest to use?

Use the 9V setting if you must use an unregulated supply.  Also
check the voltage with the LX connected; an unregulated supply
will usually read high with no load and its voltage will drop as the
load increases.

> 2) Amps. The multi purpose power supply has 300ma written on it. The HP
> supply has 750ma written on it. Should I use the power supply with this
> shortage or not.

Just turned on the LX needs less than 50ma but that figure can
increase a lot depending on the activity like modem use or
battery charging.  If you exceed the current capability of the
supply its voltage may drop too much to be useful.

> 3) In general, would you recommend using a general purpose power supply, or
> purchase a HP one.

The supply doesn't have to be HP but it should be a good
regulated one.  Why save $20 on a supply and endanger your $200+
LX.  Thaddeus sells some that should be fine for the LX.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:34:13 +0100
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http://PocketDOS.com does a V1 compatible product - opens you up to a lot of
HP200LX programs!

Tom Tom does a Win CE v1 Sinclair spectrum emulator:
http://www.palmtop.nl/ce/hpc.html

The Ultimate Win CE site - even has a (depressing to read) v1 section:
http://www.cewindows.net/

Finally, I found this site about the MC12's bigger brother:
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-10522/tomas/mc16/mc16.htm

Hope thus helps,

Regards
            Malcolm

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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Ericsson MC12


> Hi,
>
> I have an MC12 and I think its to hard to find info about that model.
> I found more resources searching about the HP320LX since this two devices
> are practically same.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:08:16 +0100
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Hi, I too bought a s/h MC12 to supplement my aging HP100LX, but I wish I'd
done a little more research 1st! :-(
Yes it is an OEM HP320LX. and was actually more expensive its day due to its
Ericsson Cellphone connectivity etc.
There is one major difference, however - it uses CE v1 whereas the 320
shipped with v2. Regrettably Msoft fixed a number of bugs and usability
issues with V2+ (don't they always?) and the majority of V2+ SW is
incompatible with V1. Unfortunately OS upgrades where by ROM chip and they
are unobtainable now. You will find that neither Ericsson, HP or Microsoft
support or will even talk to you about the unit (dead tech?).
Basically we are left with a machine that will continue to do what it was
designed for but is pretty unexpandable Win CE SW-wise,
There are some notable exceptions:

http://PocketDOS.com does a V1 compatible product - opens you up to a lot of
HP200LX programs!

Tom Tom does a Win CE v1 Sinclair spectrum emulator:
http://www.palmtop.nl/ce/hpc.html

The Ultimate Win CE site - even has a (depressing to read) v1 section:
http://www.cewindows.net/

Finally, I found this site about the MC12's bigger brother:
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-10522/tomas/mc16/mc16.htm

Hope thus helps,

Regards
            Malcolm


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From: "Alfredo Musse T." <amusse@MEDIAIM.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Ericsson MC12


> Hi,
>
> I have an MC12 and I think its to hard to find info about that model.
> I found more resources searching about the HP320LX since this two devices
> are practically same.
>
> Here a list of what I found
>
> http://www.whiten.co.uk/
> http://www.mcpt.btinternet.co.uk
> this is a great site but I checked it today and no longer exists or are
> experiencing problems :(
> http://www.pdapad.com/hp.htm
> http://www.google.com/search?q=hp320lx&hl=es&lr=
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=es&q=ericsson+mc12&lr=
>
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?template=SP1&B=ie&PID=8507&LM=SIM_V&nore
> dir=1
>
>
> I hope it will be help you,
>
>
> Alfredo Musse T.
> media improvement - solutions for the digital world
> Tel. (511) 562-0216
> amusse@mediaim.com
> http://www.mediaim.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]En nombre de Lars
> Hedstroem
> Enviado el: Martes, 30 de Abril de 2002 11:38 a.m.
> Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Asunto: Ericsson MC12
>
>
> Hi everyody
>
> I bought a second hand Ericsson MC12 the other day, anyone
> knows a discussiongroup for this one? or atleast for Win CE.
>
>
>
> Lars
>
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Date:         Wed, 1 May 2002 08:25:48 +0800
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Hi,

Many years ago, I used to drool looking at the Poqet PC in Thaddeus'
magazines. But it was too costly for me then.

Recently, while surfing, I came across this site
http://www.cadigital.com/poqetpc.htm which sold used Poqet PCs and
ordered one at US$168 (Poqet PC plus and a 2MB SRAM card). This is
much more affordable than the brand new units before.  Here's a good
review of it (or search google for more):
http://www.olagrande.net/~webguy/service/poqet.html

When I received my order yesterday, it works as advertised.  It seems
to be part of another machinery.  Instead of rubber feet, it had some
screw ons and there was an adaptor to convert the proprietory
interface to a standard DB9 connector (can be unscrewed).  It has
BACKLIGHTING and can also use Sandisk CF cards with adaptor.  I popped
the 96MB flash card from my 200LX into the Poqet PC and it was
instantly recognised.  It could run Turbo C and all my other DOS
programs.

I also ordered an extra battery and Terry Reiter was kind enough to
throw in another in case a battery doesn't work as I'm so far away.

It won't replace my 200LX in the day but for those nights in bed, I
can still fiddle with my files :)

Rgds,
weemeng

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 >pk sharma <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN> wrote:
 "Please don't post any comments to this"

so why write anything in the first place?

on the subject of Heider/Le Pen 'racism' 'immigration' etc the one i agree
with the most is www.fredoneverything.com (see heading "Immigration - Better
Than Ebola. About A Draw With Smallpox.")

cheers
Dr.Nat

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 >Good try Werner.
 >I don't think your bed qualifies as a "public place" <G>
 >Vic Roberts

so your wife doesn't like you to 'play' with your LX in bed :)
 HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand
her at all.
 PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
 DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.
     __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my LX
  _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside
 (_)/ (_)     ready to put down my thoughts for the Perfect Man's
              Perfect Palmtop Light

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