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hi Bob,

a friend of me has made a TP Program for CW training and AFAIK you
can use it also for playing a text file in morse code.
It is called oe9.exe or oe9morse and was written by OE9KGJ Kurt.
If you have difficulties to find it with a search machine I can
send you a copy. Please let me know.
The program runs very well on the palmtop and you can set it to any
reasonable speed.

73! de Werner OE9FWV


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What is PDU?  What does it do?

Cheers... Russ


Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Tony Hutchins improved PDU once more by merging the pdu.scr and
> pdu_err.scr script into the single script pdu.scr. He also
> simplified the setup and added new features. Tony, many thanks!
>
> Version 2.5  -Improvements by Tony Hutchins:
> (01-DEC-01)  -Removed dependence on directories in the setup
>              -Allow optional usage of ROBOT.CFG
>              -Message ref. number can be recorded for sent SMS
>              -More than one SMS box allowed
>
> Download from:
> http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

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Bad News!

Today in the morning I experienced a complete failure of the Palmtop's storage. This included the 64MB C: drive, as well =
as my 512MB PCMCIA. The built-in storage (in this case 1.3 MB, seems to be ok, but I am not I trust it.

This means literally everything is gone. I have backups at home in LA (I am on a trip in Minnesota now), and a few items =
with me, but not much.

This is really devastating. I'll have to rebuild nearly the entire palmtop file base from scratch, literally.

There are two surprises here: I did not expect the C: drive to fail. That is really a novelty to me. I have seen this hap=
pen but EXTREMELY rarely. The second nasty is the PCMCIA failure. This has never happened bafore. I rely on the PCMCIA as=
 my backup device for the C: drive, for example! My backup procedure backs up critical files from the C drive to the A dr=
ive in several generations. After a 7 generations are accumulated, the last one is kept, and the prev. 6 are deleted. So =
within the week I have daily back ups. and thereafter only weekly ones. Once a month I copy the entire content of the A: =
drive to the desktop, and to a CD ROM. CD ROM is kept in a storage away from home. But the point is that I rely on the PC=
MCIA and this is the first time it has failed that I recall. (I did have a C: drive failure about a year ago.)

Wow! This is not fun and sets me back a lot. Email loss hurts badly. I have no idea what happened, and if the co-incidenc=
e is related or just random.

Avi



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Date:         Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:49:31 -0800
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Robert

You asked me to email you a copy of MAKE-CW.EXE.

I am responding to your off-list email via HPLX-L because
a direct response to your bmeyer@union-tel.com email address
bounced with the following response:

>This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
>Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
>The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
>each recipient was rejected.
>    Recipient: <bmeyer@union-tel.com>
>    Reason:     your host is blacklisted by rbl.wyoming.com. Send your questions to
>                blacklist-admin@union-tel.com
>Please reply to Postmaster@home.com
>if you feel this message to be in error.

I have placed a copy of MAKE-CW.EXE on my web space.
You (and anyone else on the list) are very welcome to download a
copy from
the following URL:

http://members.home.net/gary-jacek/MAKECW.ZIP

Since this program is Freeware and runs just fine on the LX,
perhaps it would be a good addition to SUPER.  Can anyone
on the list put it there?

73 de Gary
VE7GGJ

"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> I am looking for is a Morse code program for the LX
> that will play back text files.

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I used Lotus Agenda as a contact manager for a while but found it too slow
in the end.  Now I use buddy in conjunction with the HP PIMs to do the job
but it doesn't give you a ready way to review contact histories etc.  On the
other hand, I still have my alarms which more than makes up for that.

I used Act 1.1.1 for the HP200LX but ditched it because it wasn't y2k
compatible.  However, it turns out from other users that they found it was
Y2k compatible in subsequent dates, even though it got one key date wrong.
How does that come about?  I don't know because I had thrown my copy out
already so I didn't have a chance to test it.

HTH
Tony.

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Hi Everyone

I just recently obtained a copy of ACT. I had never heard of it before
and am wondering who wrote it and how to use it. It looks like
a contact manager, is that what it is? Are there other contact managers
written for the LX? Thanks.

John

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:55:37 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Heeellloooo!?
> Harry, are you out there?

Try this one:

Harry Wellner <hwellner@iname.com>

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:09:51 +0200, Nigel Rotherham <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA> wrote:

> Can anyone provide any more details re installing and running TL on the 95
> (especially with the built in MEMO application)?

As far as I know Turbo Lighting can only be used with DOS
programs. I was never able to get it to run with Memo.

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 04:42:07 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> I have a feeling that the 95 would not be compatible with Turbo
> Lightning but could be wrong.  I don't recall if the 95 runs its
> applications in a graphic mode like the HP100/200 where the various apps
> are actually graphics based, I believe.  In which case, TL would not
> come up or work as those tsr's would not popup over a graphics app.  In
> addition, the 95's dos compatibility was not perfect.

Gee Fred, you are so rarely wrong on things LX that this is a
rare event to savor <G>.

TL works just fine with DOS programs on the 95LX. I have never
been able to get it to run under System Manager on my 95LX,
100LX or 200LX.

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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:05:00 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> Sounds interesting, where can I get a copy?

Turbo Lighting was a commercial program sold by Borland. I
still have my copy, but unless you can find evidence that
Borland has released this program into the public domain, I
cannot give you a copy.

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Why not just place the LX near or ON a small microphone
connected to an amplifier and speakers? No modifications. No
capacitors, etc.

Vic Roberts

On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:01:30 -0700, Alfred Lee <alfred1520@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>
> Hi Nathalie,
>
> Easiest way without modifying the LX is to drive the amplifier
> through a resistor divider from the serial port!  You may not
> even need a program.  Though I haven't tried it, you might
> be able to schedule a macro to start the built-in data comm
> and start sending a big file.  The resulting Tx signal on
> the serial port should make some audiable sounds.

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Tomas Moberg writes:
> I use this every day. Its easy and nice to use to share Your LAN with
> Your hp200lx via the serial port.
> Part of my www.cfg looks like this:

I also have Mochasoft working with LxTcp (a slightly modified version).
I was on a recent visit to Australia and used it at friends there to download
& upload email. I didnt even unpack my modem!!


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Hi Folks,

On Sat morning my machine experienced a major failure of C:
drive and A: drive. Working all day to chase stuff I managed
to re-build it to some semblance of what it was before. Most
of the stuff I have is missing, but I have retrieved and
re-built enough to be able to operate.

I know some of you had sent in an order, but I regret to tell
you it is now lost in the great bit bucket in the sky. I'll be
happy to fulfill the order on Monday, or as soon as you send
it in. (In the past several weeks we have had huge downtimes
from our credit card processor, and they provided no
explanation, no word when they'll stabilize, and not even a
"Oops, sorry - we are having problems" message. Calling them
and asking them means rudeniks go wild inside your ears.

My preference is PayPal - please use it. You can use our
click-through at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html and click
on the link to order via PayPal.

I am also aware that I lost posts from Peichl and whoever else
on the subject of partitioning. I saw some new messages on
that, but before I even had a chance to read them, they were
gone along with everything else on my machine.

I hope it is not the weather in Minnesota <g>...

All the best!

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Is the list down?

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Testing...1...2...3...

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Date:         Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:01:30 +0200
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Howdy everyone :-)

Sorry in advance if this question has been asked before (and if it has maybe a
pointer to the answer is all I need) but is it possible to link the
HP95/100/200LX to a Siemens cell phone using the i/r interface?  Are any special
'drivers' required?  The objective (when I eventually acquire a S25/S35) is to
be able to download any SMS data to the LX.  I am not wanting to use the link as
a 'real time' interface to a ISP or for web access.

Hope my query makes sense!

Oh, just in case the question asked, "why not use a cable" the answer is "I do
not have one!"

Till the next time, KEEP SMILING:-)

Best regards

Nigel R in sunny South Africa

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Date:         Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:33:34 +0200
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Thanks for the reply Victor, much appreciated.  I am using SP95 (could not get
TL to work) but find it a little limited.  Apparently there is a 'bigger'
version available but from where I do not know... :-(  I did locate the authors
e-mail address but have had no response to my inquiries.

Thanks again for the contact. Till the next time, KEEP SMILING!

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test

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I'm needing flash card uploads/downloads more frequently these days, from
my OBs and 200LX to the desktop(s), and figured it was time to get a card
reader.

I've noticed that the serial port card readers are getting hard to find,
but there's a parallel port version on ebay selling for $25 (buy it now)
that's billed to handle several card formats:

<< ebay item #1302410232... but they look like they have several of these
posted

CompactFlash Reader/Writer External

Reader/Writer for Digital Camera CompactFlash Card

Additional Slot for PCMCIA ATA type I, II, or III and Sandisk Flash Cards
Supports Hot Swapping (changing cards w/o turning power off)
External unit connects to Parallel Port and has pass through for printer so
you can keep printer connected.
Memorex Model PCF-100
New with 30 day warranty.
Shipping $8. USA Orders Only.
>>

Does anyone have any experience with these to comment (good/bad).  Or any
leads on another (better?) card reader alternative for sale?  I know there
have been several postings lately, but I didn't find any reference to this
specific one.

I use the 200LX Connectivity Pack for most smaller LX transfers, but bigger
files (such as digital photos) are a pain to do this way.

Thanks.  Sorry for any cross-posting bandwidth.

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> Gee Fred, you are so rarely wrong on things LX that this is a
> rare event to savor <G>.

It is a wonderful thing - the distance between us - you being on the
east coast (or close enough to be considered so and I on the west coast
or similarly considered so). (G)  But beware if I ever do make it to
Camp Worthington they will think it was that BEAR! (G)

> TL works just fine with DOS programs on the 95LX. I have never
> been able to get it to run under System Manager on my 95LX,
> 100LX or 200LX.

Well, I knew it would not work over sysmgr!

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> If you have still a ISA slot somewhere, then an SCM reader is pretty
> perfect: Plug and play under W9+ and W2K - nothing to configure. Will
also
> take modems and what have you.
> Good drivers for DOS. Plus free drivers on request from SCMMicro.com for
> linear cards.

Thanks.  Unfortunately, I don't have a free ISA slot.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 04:49:27 +0100
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> Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:
> > I do full backups of my HP200LX DS 8MB
> > c:\ drive using Filer's Bacup option to my SanDisk
> > 60MB flashdisk card.
> >
> > I mark "All
> > directories and files", "Modified files
> > only" and "Overwrite existing files".
> >
> > Now it stops and says: "Error Invalid
> > file or path name."
> > Any ideas?
>
> Do a "chkdsk /f" on the drive, you may have some corruption that
> is causing the backup copy process to fail.  If that doesn't fix
> it then do "dir c:\*.* /s/b >a.a".  This will create a file
> called "a.a" that will list all the non-hidden filenames.  View
> that file looking for odd filenames.  It is possible to create
> files with invalid filenames that other commands can't deal
> with.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>

Thanks! Great idea. After I created the
"a.a" file I searched it for some
non-ascii letters I use plus "space".
Two filenames with space turned up. I
managed to delete them using wildcards
like "del abc*.*"

Now backup works again!

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Barry writes:
> Look at Xerox calling their machine a "copy" machine, just like
> that command in Dos.

What about the cheek of my local glazier using Microsoft's product name in
his advertising!
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I was hoping someone on the list might be able to help me.  I just
purchased a 128 MB Compact Flash Card (219 Guilders at Amsterdam
Airport if anyone is interested).  I have set up Software Carousel to
use the Flash Memory when I run out of EMS memory.  I am having a
problem creating a permanent contiguous file on the flash disk.
Whenever I reboot the HP, Software Carousel launches Optimize.exe.  It
gets as far as Testing DMA, then halts saying it had problem reading
the FAT on the flash disk.  I have run the Flsh Disk through Norton
Disk Doctor and a number of other Disk Check / Optimize programs with
nor problems whatsoever.  But Carousel and Optimize just do not like
it.

I am using verson 6.89 of Software Carpusel and version 1.00 of
optimize.exe. Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.


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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:31:11 +0200
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Hi Etienne,

don't have your email address.
Could you please send me a copy of Goin Postal?

Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:54:53 -0800
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I can not stop 0(zero) key. It's like pressed and
locked: I can not stop it. When I flick on the 0(zero)
button, it may stop sometimes. (note: it s a 6 year
old 200lx)
Any comment?

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:41:10 +0100
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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You should have it by now!

My pleasure

Etienne
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|
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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:10:49 -0600
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Thanks to all who responded to my earlier query about a relay to
control a furnace thermostat from a telephone. I found an off
the shelf solution that works perfectly. I can now make a phone
call a few hours before visiting the remote unoccupied location
to turn on the furnace and the place is nice and warm when I
arrive. Here is the device I used:

http://www.smarthome.com/5005.html

The dry contacts break the wire between the furnace and
thermostat until I call and close the contacts. The device is
overkill for what I need but I may find a way to use all the
x-10 features it has.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:08:30 -0800
Reply-To:     "Martin G. Ramirez" <mramirez@LMU.EDU>
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From:         "Martin G. Ramirez" <mramirez@LMU.EDU>
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Hi all,

I got one of these via eBay from the same seller about a month ago.  This
item works fine, but only after I got the latest driver from the Memorex
website (address listed in the documentation).  The software assigns this
unit a drive letter that one can see in My Computer on the desktop (I'm
running Win98).  Inserting a CF or PCMIA card results in an audible
notification beep and thereafter, one can do normal file operations using
the drive letter that's been assigned (this unit is drive D: on my system).
 I have used this drive successfully with a SanDisk 220mb ATA PCMIA card
(recently discussed on this list and also available via eBay), a Pretec
32mb ATA PCMIA card, and a Kodak 16mb CF card.   This item has made moving
lots of files on/off my 200LX a breeze and for a price that's hard to beat.

Martin G. Ramirez


><< ebay item #1302410232... but they look like they have several of these
>posted
>
>CompactFlash Reader/Writer External
>
>Reader/Writer for Digital Camera CompactFlash Card
>
>Additional Slot for PCMCIA ATA type I, II, or III and Sandisk Flash Cards
>Supports Hot Swapping (changing cards w/o turning power off)
>External unit connects to Parallel Port and has pass through for printer so
>you can keep printer connected.
>Memorex Model PCF-100
>New with 30 day warranty.
>Shipping $8. USA Orders Only.
>>>

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Department of Biology
Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8220
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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:44:41 -0800
Reply-To:     Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Thanks.  That's useful information.  FWIW, I placed a bid on the unit and
got it unchallenged at $19.95 (+ $8 shipping).

They have several more on the auction block, tho I'm not inclined to
recommend them (ejcomputers) until I actually get it in my hands.

Search on "flash reader/writer external"  (use the quotes, search title
only).

- Longden

> I got one of these via eBay from the same seller about a month ago.  This
> item works fine, but only after I got the latest driver from the Memorex
> website (address listed in the documentation).  The software assigns this
> unit a drive letter that one can see in My Computer on the desktop (I'm
> running Win98).  Inserting a CF or PCMIA card results in an audible
> notification beep and thereafter, one can do normal file operations using
> the drive letter that's been assigned (this unit is drive D: on my
system).
>  I have used this drive successfully with a SanDisk 220mb ATA PCMIA card
> (recently discussed on this list and also available via eBay), a Pretec
> 32mb ATA PCMIA card, and a Kodak 16mb CF card.   This item has made
moving
> lots of files on/off my 200LX a breeze and for a price that's hard to
beat.

> ><< ebay item #1302410232... but they look like they have several of
these
> >posted
> >
> >CompactFlash Reader/Writer External
> >
> >Reader/Writer for Digital Camera CompactFlash Card
> >
> >Additional Slot for PCMCIA ATA type I, II, or III and Sandisk Flash
Cards
> >Supports Hot Swapping (changing cards w/o turning power off)
> >External unit connects to Parallel Port and has pass through for printer
so
> >you can keep printer connected.
> >Memorex Model PCF-100
> >New with 30 day warranty.
> >Shipping $8. USA Orders Only.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:00:37 -0500
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Mon,  3 Dec 2001 13:57:02 -0500 (EST)

Hello All:

  I have placed ZIP archives of the October & November message logs on
  the HPLX-L Command Center. http://list.hplx.net

  Cheers...AJKind

  PS I think I got it right this time ;-) , but if you find any
  problems, you know where to fnd me <VBG>
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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:41:25 +0200
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Hi friends

All LED lights are sold, I don't accept any more orders.

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:45:34 -0700
Reply-To:     "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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From:         "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Last week, I tried to optimize my 128MB Sandisk CF and Drive C. It would
not optimize. I had previously ran Norton Speed Disk 4.5. Well, anyway,
I backed up all, formatted the CF in my HP618 camera, initialized C:,
reloaded all and optimize worked. I tried the same scenario on a 16MB
CF. I've forgotten (old age?) what happened.

With the above results, you might try a reformat from the LX itself and
a reinitialization of C: after backing up your files. Maybe some disk
finagling programs change something in the boot record to foul up
optimize.

Bob

Mark Wallace-Jones wrote:
>
> I was hoping someone on the list might be able to help me.  I just
> purchased a 128 MB Compact Flash Card (219 Guilders at Amsterdam
> Airport if anyone is interested).  I have set up Software Carousel to
> use the Flash Memory when I run out of EMS memory.  I am having a
> problem creating a permanent contiguous file on the flash disk.
> Whenever I reboot the HP, Software Carousel launches Optimize.exe.  It
> gets as far as Testing DMA, then halts saying it had problem reading
> the FAT on the flash disk.  I have run the Flsh Disk through Norton
> Disk Doctor and a number of other Disk Check / Optimize programs with
> nor problems whatsoever.  But Carousel and Optimize just do not like
> it.
>
> I am using verson 6.89 of Software Carpusel and version 1.00 of
> optimize.exe. Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:27:10 -0800
Reply-To:     dmp24@JUNO.COM
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From:         David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM>
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I have the following items that I would like to find a good home for. I
would like $1 handling for each item plus priority mail postage. I will
ship priority mail as shipping boxes are provided. I believe that the
priority mail rates are something like $3.50 for one pound, $3.95 for two
pounds and $5 something for 5 pounds.

I am willing to deal. Please e-mail me offline to reserve what you want.
I have a few more items that I will add to the list after somethings are
gone. Please refer to items by number.

Thanks!

David Peterson
(dmp24@juno.com)

Item Description

1 Crosstalk Communicator V2.1.0Rev A for US Robotics. Two diskettes and
book. 1990-1992
2 Windows NT 4.0 Boot diskettes, CD, book. Unopened.
3 Windows NT 4.0 Boot diskettes, CD, book. Unopened.
4 The Lemmings Chronicles CD and booklet for Windows 1994
5 Microsoft Publisher 98 trial CD plus key on diskette
6 Supra express 336 version 2 CD
7 Supra WinICU and legacy install disks 1995
8 Colorado Backup for DOS Jumbo ver 3.01
9 Supra Express 56k software installer CD for Windows
10 56k LU PCI modem CD suite
11 Folder Bolt for Windows. Diskette/manual. open, never installed.
12 Lotus Freelance 97 CD with key.
13 Avery LabelPro Dot Matrix ver 1.0 5 1/4 + 3.5 floppies and book
14 Labels Unlimited for Win 3.1 CD and book
15 Norton Commander 2.0 with box and book 5 1/4. Works on 200lx.
16 LabelPro for windows 1.0 manual + 3.5 diskettes
17 Check-it Pro 1.0 manual+5 1/4+3.5 diskettes
18 The new Printshop Companion Box, book, 3.5+5.25 diskettes
19 Label Pro for Windows 1.01 3.5 diskettes only
20 Zsoft PhotoFinish 4 3.5 diskettes only
21 Microsoft Project for Windows 3 3.5 diskettes 1992
22 WinFax Pro 3 3.5 diskettes version 3.0
23 Norton desktop for Windows 4 3,5 diskettes
24 Microsoft Excel for Windows 1992 4 3.5 diskettes
25 Microsoft Word Vers 2.0 6 3.5 disks
26 WinPost vers3.1a 1 3.5 disk (reminder notes manager)
27 Windows 3.51 CD
28 Windows Encarta '95 CD with key
29 HP Officejet 600 CD
30 Windows NT 4.0 CD with copies of boot diskettes
31 Robert Trent Jones Golf screen saver cd unopened
32 Knowledge adventure 2 cd's. came with Packard Bell Pentium pc
33 Lotus notes 4.1 CD only
34 14 Misc cd's
35 Picture it! CD with key 1996
36 HP cd with Netscape and McAfee unopened
37 MSC cd catalog 2.0
38 HP Laserjet 3100 all-in-one software cd
39 HP laserjet 6p & 6p software cd
40 HP Deskjet 1000c starter software cd
41 HP Officejet 600 software cd
42 HP Deskjet 1000c starter software cd
43 HO Officejet 520 software cd with Printhouse
44 HP Laserjet 3100 all-in-one software cd
45 MS Access 2.0  8 diskettes
46 MS Windows 3.0 5 1/4, 5 diskettes
47 QA plus 3 3.5 diskettes
48 Spinrite II ver 1.0 1 3.5 diskette
49 CheckIt 3.0 2 3.5 diskettes-Pro 1 3.5 diskette

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:24:44 -0500
Reply-To:     steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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From:         Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
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> use the Flash Memory when I run out of EMS memory.  I am having a
> problem creating a permanent contiguous file on the flash disk.
> Whenever I reboot the HP, Software Carousel launches Optimize.exe.  It
> gets as far as Testing DMA, then halts saying it had problem reading
> the FAT on the flash disk.

The optimize program that comes with Software Carousel doesn't like =
hidden or
read-only files.  I have had it abort like you describe when I have a =
Tremm
swap file on the drive being optimized.  Perhaps this is your problem

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:37:07 -0800
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From:         Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Al,

Re older posts: Is there a place where I can find messages
posted say December 1 and 2 as individuals, not as logs?

  Avi

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Date:         Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:37:10 -0800
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Hi Stefan, and All -

Stefan and I just got into some crucial discussion on the
potential for partitioning of drives as a secondary effect of
the program he just posted which turns off the "removeble disk"
indicator vis-a-vis PCMCIA.

I believe I last asked something about if this is true, can it
be tested, and what are the worst-case scenarios of such a
test? Thereafter I think there was a reply, but I lost the
drives before I could read the posts.

Anyone care to catch me up? Stefan?

  Avi

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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2001 03:19:55 -0500
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Gary,

I did. My question was more generic. I did not ask about November because I did not want someone to tell me to get the lo=
g - I can guess I can do it... <G>




From: Gary Spiers garys@lidar.com
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:14:00 -0800
To: sponsor@ftel.net
Subject: Re: Oct & Nov Log Archives available


Avi,

I think you got lucky - the list was down for most of those two days -
I think I saw at most 2 posts. I had assumed you had lost posts from
the 30th as well which was a much more prolific posting day on the
list.

GaryS

> Hi Al,
>
> Re older posts: Is there a place where I can find messages
> posted say December 1 and 2 as individuals, not as logs?
>
>   Avi
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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:20:48 +0200
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Hi Bulent

On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:54:53 -0800, Bulent Bicioglu <bulentbicioglu@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I can not stop 0(zero) key. It's like pressed and
> locked: I can not stop it. When I flick on the 0(zero)
> button, it may stop sometimes. (note: it s a 6 year
> old 200lx)

Two possibilities:

1. The key "bubble" (in the foil which causes the click when pressing
the key) is damaged, due to heat or too much usage). Fixable only with
a new keyboard foil.

2. There is so much dirt under the key that the key bubble is pressed
down, even when the plastic key kap is not pressed.
Try to lift the plastic key kap a little and blow away all dirt under
it with a bottle of compressed air.
It may help to lift the keyboard cover (the dark green plastic which
hold all these labels under and above the keys) beginning at the lower
right korner with a knife. It is only glued onto the keyboard.

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2001 05:24:27 -0500
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It gives me a great pleasure to announce that PALRUN Version 2.0 was uploaded to the D&A Software Website. I put a link i=
n the announcement itself to the Palrun page and you can also download it from our download reference page http://www.das=
oft.com/filelist.htm#palrun.zip ...

The magnitude of the change is HUGE. You have got to read the dry description Stefan wrote at http://www.dasoft.com/palru=
n.htm - he makes it sound so simple and easy <G>...

Stefan, A BIG THNAK YOU. Andreas, A BIG THANK YOU too!

Hope you all will find this useful...

Have a good day...

   Avi Meshar
   D&A Software
   http://www.dasoft.com



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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:12:19 +0000
Reply-To:     Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Russel Brooks wrote:

> What is PDU?  What does it do?

PDU =3D Protocol Data Unit =3D the format, how SMS are transferred
in the wireless GSM mobile phone net.

Does the answer raise more questions? ;-)

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Avi Meshar wrote:

> On Sat morning my machine experienced a major failure of C:
> drive and A: drive.

I hope, NODELAY was not involved. This is the kind of scenario,
it can cause!

> I am also aware that I lost posts from Peichl and whoever else
> on the subject of partitioning.

no important email lost as far as I'm concerned. But you could
have used the opportunity of your "new" A: drive, to experiment
with partitioning on the level of FDSIK100.

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Nigel Rotherham wrote:

> Sorry in advance if this question has been asked before (and if it has =
maybe a
> pointer to the answer is all I need) but is it possible to link the
> HP95/100/200LX to a Siemens cell phone using the i/r interface?

if you leave out the HP95, then the answer is yes and found at:

http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

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Hi Stefan:

> > On Sat morning my machine experienced a major failure of C:
> > drive and A: drive.
>
> I hope, NODELAY was not involved. This is the kind of scenario, it can
> cause!

I want to emphasize: I did not use NODELAY. It was not even on my machine. The few seconds delay causes me no discomfort =
and so I had no reason to install NODELAY.

I agree with you: If I had it, and used it INCORRECTLY, the scenario of the failure I experienced would look ALMOST EXACT=
LY like I described. If this helps to warn and explain the caution required, then I am pleased to help.

> no important email lost as far as I'm concerned. But you could
> have used the opportunity of your "new" A: drive, to experiment
> with partitioning on the level of FDSIK100.

The thought crossed my mind of course and I downloaded NODELAY to the PC I used to restore some of the drive. The reason =
I did NOT do the experiment is that I had not heard from you by then and was concerned. Specifically my concern was was i=
f the "worst case scenario" includes some sort of permanent damage to the PCMCIA which would disable it or portions of it=
 permanently. Reversible damage which can be undone with FDISK is acceptable (I have a backup of the entire drive, and I =
tried it - it is a good backup which will restore fine!) but am irreversible damage I cannot afford to do to this particu=
lar 512MB card. So I decided to hold back my scientific spirit <g>...

I an a recent post I asked the same questions again, and I am sure you will see that post in due time.

All the best,

Avi


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Avi wrote:

> Today in the morning I experienced a
> complete failure of the Palmtop's storage.
> This included the 64MB C: drive, as well =
> as my 512MB PCMCIA.

...

> Wow! This is not fun and sets me back a lot.
> Email loss hurts badly. I have no idea what
> happened, and if the co-incidenc=
> e is related or just random.

Avi,

   Well I see you are by now restoring things, so
it is probably too late to look at the disks with
a low-level disk editor.  But the last time I saw
a simultaneous loss of two disk drives was because
of a virus.  Every ninth sector was erased on both
drives.  PC/XT type of machine too, so it could act
on our 200LX (though it could never infect the boot
sector of course).  It got a bunch of diskettes as
well.

   I have seen Windows corrupt the partition infor-
mation and root directories on a number of occasions.
Norton Utilities Unformat recovered most of the data
on some of those instances.  Again, not worth trying
if you have begun restoring files.  But if someone
else "loses" a drive, it might be worth trying before
anything else is done.

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On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Avi Meshar wrote:

> Hi Al,
>
> Re older posts: Is there a place where I can find messages
> posted say December 1 and 2 as individuals, not as logs?

Avi,

The individual posts for the current month are listed here,
http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/current/maillist.html, in
chronological order.

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Here's a heads up on some cheap modems (model #XJ1144). I just bought one
using "Buy It Now" for a total of $5.50 including S&H.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1305445926

By the way, do any you have the necessary drivers for this modem?  This is my
first attempt at getting connected with my HP200LX.  If any of you could send
me the appropriate settings, etc., I would much appreciate it.

I tried to download the lastest Goin' Postal from S.U.P.E.R. However, not
only was it an old version, but the link to the offsite location was broken.
Could someone please email me the latest?

One last question, what text-based ISPs work the best?  I currently use an
ISP that is local to Albuquerque, but I am looking for something cheap (or
better yet, free) for when I travel (just in USA).  Any suggestions?

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get LXCIC from SUPER and put in the appropriate init string and go! I use
epppd to negotiate the ppp connection and use teh wattcp stack.

I am bit more complicated and have created a batch file to dial and collect
email then hang up. I have the same modem and it works fine.

let me know if you want teh batch files.

good luck
KeithG


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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:31 AM
Subject: eBay Notice: Megahertz 14.4Kbps XJACK Modem - Cheap!


> Here's a heads up on some cheap modems (model #XJ1144). I just bought one
> using "Buy It Now" for a total of $5.50 including S&H.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1305445926
>
> By the way, do any you have the necessary drivers for this modem?  This is
my
> first attempt at getting connected with my HP200LX.  If any of you could
send
> me the appropriate settings, etc., I would much appreciate it.
>
> I tried to download the lastest Goin' Postal from S.U.P.E.R. However, not
> only was it an old version, but the link to the offsite location was
broken.
> Could someone please email me the latest?
>
> One last question, what text-based ISPs work the best?  I currently use an
> ISP that is local to Albuquerque, but I am looking for something cheap (or
> better yet, free) for when I travel (just in USA).  Any suggestions?
>
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Vic Roberts wrote:
> Turbo Lighting was a commercial program sold
> by Borland. I still have my copy, but unless you
> can find evidence that Borland has released this
> program into the public domain, I cannot give you
> a copy.

Borland used to offer a copy license for it's legacy compilers
for $50.  I don't know if that applied to their other products
but I think I remember hearing that it applied to early versions
of their Quatro spreadsheet.

This license was available through the middle 90s and, I think,
the later 90s.  I've never heard that they've withdrawn the
offer but if they have I might have missed it.  But now a lot of
those products are freeware so they might have dropped it.  I
don't know.

Anyway it shouldn't be hard to find out from Borland if they
still have such a license.  Or of TL has become freeware.  I
think I remember reading that Quatro and Sidekick are now
freeware, but I'm not sure.  Anyway a phone call to Borland
should find out.

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I know it's unlikely but it sounds like a virus. I have had my flash
drive go bad before but it was always when I was pushing the envelope
(trying new softwares, etc.) I never had it happen through routine
usage. What's the nature of the flash card failure? Can you see the
drive at all? Does chckdsk say anything?


BTW: I added a subject

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>
>
> Bad News!
>
> Today in the morning I experienced a complete failure of
> the Palmtop's storage. This included the 64MB C: drive, as
> well as my 512MB PCMCIA. The built-in storage (in this case

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Hi Nigel

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:01:30 +0200, Nigel Rotherham <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA> wrote:

> Sorry in advance if this question has been asked before (and if it has maybe a
> pointer to the answer is all I need) but is it possible to link the
> HP95/100/200LX to a Siemens cell phone using the i/r interface?  Are any special
> 'drivers' required?  The objective (when I eventually acquire a S25/S35) is to
> be able to download any SMS data to the LX.  I am not wanting to use the link as
> a 'real time' interface to a ISP or for web access.

> Hope my query makes sense!

Oh yes, it does. :-)

I have just updated my home page a few days ago with exactly this
information you need.
See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx and especially read the
general notes about Siemens phones in the big phone list under
"Siemens". If you really don't plan to connect to the Internet using
IR, a Siemens phone is good for you, since SMS and other
GSM-connectionless things don't disturb the IR circuit of the LX.

For IrDA you need indeed a special "driver". This driver is called
WWW/LX and costs quite a bunch of money ;-) There is also the free
IR.EXE, but with that you cannot up/download SMS, as far as I know. At
least not in a simple way. With WWW/LX ans Post/LX and Stefan's PDU you
have an integrated solution which works very well and reliably for SMS
(and email, of course).

But no more details here, everything is described on my homepage.

>
> Oh, just in case the question asked, "why not use a cable" the answer is "I do
> not have one!"

You could get one if you want.
I have coincidentally just one custom HPLX - Siemens cable for sale.
The cable is described on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx
The cable fits for all 25 and 35 phones (C, S and M) and I believe it
also fits the S45 and ME45.
On the other side it has the custom HPLX connector.

60 Euro + shipping and it is yours.

But this is of course only useful for you if you either want to
establish Internet connections with your Siemens phone or use the
phone's fax capabilities, which you can't use over IR either, because
we don't have any IrDA-capable fax software.

So, let me know if you want the cable. Otherwise I offer it to someone
else.

GTX
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Hi friends

I just came across a Japanese website and found a picture of a very
fance mobile phone there connected to a 200LX.
Has anyone seen this phone before? I have never heard of such a
solution. Seems as if the microphone flap of the phone contains a
PCMCIA port so the phone can simply be inserted into the PCMCIA slot of
the LX. And since the phone has its own battery, power consumption
should not be an issue, as it is the case with the Nokia Card Phone.

See
http://www2.tokai.or.jp/naoto/computer/images/AUT_0048.JPG

GTX
daniel

P.S.: This guy also seems to have a working backlight solution. See
http://www2.tokai.or.jp/naoto/computer/images/ELBL.JPG
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Hi Avi

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:39:52 -0500, "sponsor@ftel.net" <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Today in the morning I experienced a complete failure of the Palmtop's storage. This included the 64MB C: drive, as well
> as my 512MB PCMCIA. The built-in storage (in this case 1.3 MB, seems to be ok, but I am not I trust it.

Oh well - do you have an idea what could have caused this crash?
And unusual conditions? Humidity, coldness? Pressure applied to the
case of the LX?
Your data is gone, but we should now find a way to prevent such things
in the future.

> There are two surprises here: I did not expect the C: drive to fail. That is really a novelty to me. I have seen this hap
> pen but EXTREMELY rarely.

Well, the C: drive only needs a very short power lack to fail.

> The second nasty is the PCMCIA failure. This has never happened bafore. I rely on the PCMCIA as

This is really strange. What happened exaclty? Simply everything wiped
out? Some missing files? Wrong FAT entries? Did you swap flash cards in
a way you didn't before?

> Wow! This is not fun and sets me back a lot. Email loss hurts badly. I have no idea what happened, and if the co-incidenc
> e is related or just random.

I can imagine! Not that I would have nearly as much sensitive emails as
you, but anyway - I owuld be quite frustrated in such a case.

I hope you find the reason in order to preevent future failings!

GTX
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Hi friends

still surfing around and I have found a program called "Framework V"
which is available as a 200LX-version.

Does anyone know this? This mail is just meant as a pointer to that
piece of software for those who could use it. I don't have any interest
in that software.

http://www.framework.com

and klick on "Hend-Held, HP200LX" on the left side.

GTX
daniel


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well, a few more funny websites:

http://www.baus-systems.com/milk.html

http://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/tacho/bikecurrent.htm

and - wow - there is even a project to contrl LEGO robots with the
palmtop:

http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html

It is quite interesting to search the web for just the keyworrd "200lx"
or "100lx". :-)
Also do a search on http://images.google.com for these keywords!

GTX
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Hello

On Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:03:02 -0500, Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Is there anyway to expand memory on a 100LX?
>
> I thought I recalled that certain 100LX's (with a certain serial number
> range) were capable of a memeory upgrade.

> Does anyone know how to do this, or if anyone does it?

Yes, I did it.

It is possible only with the (some?) 2MB 100LXs.
You must open the machine in order to see if it is possible at all. If
there is a socket or room for a socket for a memory expansion board, it
is theoretically possible to apply at least all 200LX upgrades until
8MB, since the processor (i.e. the Hornet chip) is the same in 100LX
and 200LX, AFAIK.

But there is a problem: I don't remember vell who I tried it, I think I
removed a 1MB board and wanted to put a 2MB board onto that socket, so
it would result in 3MB (1MB onboard).
The 100LX could access all three MBs, and it worked without problems,
however, the 2MB mosule didn't fit mechanically inside the case of the
100LX, because of a capacitor which prevented the 2MB module to lay
down close onto the board.
With some soldering it could be possbile to use a smaller capacitor or
maybe move it to another loaction using wires. But if that's worth the
effort - I don't know...

However, I haven't tried to upgrade to anything more than 3MB. So I
don't know if this would work. But theoretically it should, just as it
does with 2MB 200LX machines.

Mack? Do you listen? Can you confirm that?

Thanks
daniel

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> P.S.: This guy also seems to have a working backlight solution. See
> http://www2.tokai.or.jp/naoto/computer/images/ELBL.JPG

That would be lower case "jpg"...

-Chris


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This is great. I really feel that we need to be able to read japanese to be
able to keep up with the developments on teh LX. HTese guys are really nuts
for this little computer. Can anybody tel me what it says? It looks like he
has Linux running on it and it also looks like he has been able to plug the
phone directly into the PCMCIA port.

Keith
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: fancy mobile phone


> Hi friends
>
> I just came across a Japanese website and found a picture of a very
> fance mobile phone there connected to a 200LX.
> Has anyone seen this phone before? I have never heard of such a
> solution. Seems as if the microphone flap of the phone contains a
> PCMCIA port so the phone can simply be inserted into the PCMCIA slot of
> the LX. And since the phone has its own battery, power consumption
> should not be an issue, as it is the case with the Nokia Card Phone.
>
> See
> http://www2.tokai.or.jp/naoto/computer/images/AUT_0048.JPG
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> P.S.: This guy also seems to have a working backlight solution. See
> http://www2.tokai.or.jp/naoto/computer/images/ELBL.JPG
> http://www2.tokai.or.jp/naoto/computer/images/ELBL_circuit.JPG
>
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Hi Stefan

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:12:21 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> > pointer to the answer is all I need) but is it possible to link the
> > HP95/100/200LX to a Siemens cell phone using the i/r interface?
>
> if you leave out the HP95, then the answer is yes and found at:
>
> http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

Have I missed something? Do you have real IrDA support in PDU as
stand-alone now?

Otherwise Nigel needs WWW/LX. Or a data cable.

GTX
daniel

P.S.: I just read the palrun improvements. Great! Thank you!
I'll immediately download and try it! :-)

Unfortunately I have still problems with DOSEMU under Linux, so I still
cannot use Post/LX with full functionalty under Linux. :-(
I hope these problems can be solved.

DOSEMU crashes each time I quit any program with a segmentation fault.
Sounds like a bad memory handling, doesn't it?

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Hi Victor,

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:31:00 -0000, Victor Beazel <vmbeazel@SWCP.COM> wrote:

> Here's a heads up on some cheap modems (model #XJ1144). I just bought one
> using "Buy It Now" for a total of $5.50 including S&H.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1305445926

You don't need any driver for that.
The palmtop sees the modem as COM2, and you can jsut point your
software - whichever you use - to COM2.

You only need a card enabler like LXCIC by Stefan Peichl.

GTX
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Hi Keith

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:26:42 -0500, Keith Grider <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> This is great. I really feel that we need to be able to read japanese to be
> able to keep up with the developments on teh LX. HTese guys are really nuts
> for this little computer. Can anybody tel me what it says? It looks like he
> has Linux running on it and it also looks like he has been able to plug the
> phone directly into the PCMCIA port.

I think he runs a terminal emulation to log into a linux computer.
So it looks as he runs linux.

I also think we should try to encourage all these Japanese geniuses to
at least translating their pages to English to make them available to
everyone. These automatical translator robots are good to give you a
vague overview, but if you really want ot know what these guys are
talking about you have to learn Japanese first. ;-)

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:54:58 -0000
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Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@gmx.de>
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I'd be more than happy to help out.  You guys on this list have bailed me out
of scrapes more than once.  Just let me know.

Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@gmx.de> said:

> Hi Victor,
>
> reply to your questions on the list.
>
> Another thing: I have bought three of these modems from the seller.
> I don't know yet if he will ship to Germany. If he doesn't, could I ask
> you to receive my modems as well and forward them to me? Shipping
> should cost something like 5 US$ to Germany - have done that several
> times with other little electronic parts.
>
> I could "mail" you the 5 $ through paypal.
>
> BTW: Thanks for the link! This is a really great price for that modem!
> :-)
>
> GTX
> daniel
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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:59:34 -0000
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Etienne,
Thank you very much for your help.
Best Wishes,
Victor


Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@pandora.be> said:

> GP 5. 0 is attached, the XJ1144 work without any special driver
> in the 200lx.
>
> Etienne
> (This copied to HPLX list, to avoid you getting multiple copies
> of GP)

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> still surfing around and I have found a program called "Framework V"
> which is available as a 200LX-version.
>
> Does anyone know this? This mail is just meant as a pointer to that
> piece of software for those who could use it. I don't have any interest
> in that software.
>
> http://www.framework.com

The program is an old-style integrated package of applications, similar in
concept to MS Works (word processor, spreadsheet, database, etc), developed
by the makers of DBase (Ashton-Tate) ... specifically by Robert M. Carr.
It basically was another killer-app that met its match.

I run FW4 on my 200LX (had used this app on my desktops/notebooks since
FW2).

FW runs like Windows (it called them "frames" before there were "windows")
and organizes data elements in nested frames, with one view of a collection
of data looking very much like an outline.

It includes its own programming language, called "FRED".

After Ashton-Tate was acquired by Borland, the rights to FW got muddied and
apparently, the (supposed) current owner has taken the code to add
improvements.  FW has always worked on the 200LX, since it's a DOS
application, with the only quirk being that the numeric grey +/- keys on a
desktop, which are essential to navigating in FW, aren't evident on the LX.
The current FW owner got the notion of modifying FW to run on the 200LX and
remapped two keys to support the grey +/-.  He was surprised when I told
him it was that F11/F12 would do the same thing as grey +/- ... and that
F11/F12 were supported already on the LX using Fn-1/Fn-2.

FW also had a nice dictionary/thesaurus built-in.  If I had a 1000CX (the
bare-bones machine) ... no doubt that it'd be FW that I'd run on it.  Like
the pundits used to say ... its apps were so-so, but its integration using
the outliner concept made it greater than the sum of its parts.

I was tempted to try FW5, but the asking price was too high for the limited
improvements.

It's a good program that does a lot of things, but most LXers could do
about the same using the basic PIMs.

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Hello All:

  Sorry to show my DOS ignorance, but I seem to be out of environment
  space on my LX. My DHCP server here at the University that I plug
  my LX/Accton into has become very "dynamic" so I have been using
  Addreas' DHCP & IP-UP. Unfortunately when I run POSTH, I now run out
  of environment space. I seem to remember there is no way of
  increasing this memory area, or am I wrong?

  Cheers...AJKind

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In Config.sys, use the /E: switch in the SHELL= line. The default is 160
bytes; you can set it up to, say, /E:512

Your shell i\line might look like:

        SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:512 /P

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12/04/01  4:16 pm -0500

Hello All:

  Sorry to show my DOS ignorance, but I seem to be out of environment
  space on my LX. My DHCP server here at the University that I plug
  my LX/Accton into has become very "dynamic" so I have been using
  Addreas' DHCP & IP-UP. Unfortunately when I run POSTH, I now run out
  of environment space. I seem to remember there is no way of
  increasing this memory area, or am I wrong?

  Cheers...AJKind

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Al wrote:
> but I seem to be out of environment   space on my LX.

The shell command in your config.sys controls this:

shell=c:\dos\command.com /e:512 /p

This would give you an environment space of 512 bytes.

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What about a line in the CONFIG.SYS file that specifies something like:

SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:1024

Where I believe E: precedes the size of the environment in bytes(?)

Alan
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>  Sorry to show my DOS ignorance, but I seem to be out of environment
>  space on my LX. My DHCP server here at the University that I plug
>  my LX/Accton into has become very "dynamic" so I have been using
>  Addreas' DHCP & IP-UP. Unfortunately when I run POSTH, I now run out
>  of environment space. I seem to remember there is no way of
>  increasing this memory area, or am I wrong?

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Hi Stefan,

I have almost managed it to run Post/LX with PE under PALRUN 2.0 under
DOSEMU under Linux. ;-)
This will be the first step. Networking in DOSEMU is said to be
possible, so I will also set up WWW/LX and so on.

But first: Post and PE.

I have two problems at the moment, which also appear if I run palrun 2
under Windows 98.

1. When NOT using the -w option, I have sometimes a dark screen. For
example:
a. when in PE, doing a search (F4) then pressing F5 (replace) will
result in the replace dialog with a black screen in the background.
When I then finish the replace dialog, it disappears, but the screen is
not restored but remains black.
b. when in Post, replying to a message, entering PE, exiting PE,
pressing ESC (I'm still testing around, so no changes shall be applied)
gives the dialog "abandon / cancel". When choosing "abandon" I get a
dark screen (but Post works, when I then hit Alt-Q, I get back to the
DOS prompt).
When using the -w option, this is not the case. However you write this
has other disadvantages.
Is this a normal behaviour, or is this somethin you could fix in
Palrun 2.1? ;-)
I MUST use the -w option at the moment, without it I cannot work
efficiently.

2. In Post/LX: If I use the -p option, Scrolling is not so terribly
slow as without -p. But: When I have a message list and scroll through
the messages down, Post/LX begins to scroll if the cursor has reached
the third message from bottom, as we know. But in Palrun, not the whole
list scrolls, but only the last two rows scroll (i.e. UNDER the
cursor). Thus the corsor never reaches one of these messages below the
one Post begins to scroll.
Can you second that?
Could that be fixed?

I really would like to have a setup where I can simply put my flash
card into the Omnibook running Linux, start dosemu with Post/LX in it
and use it to send/receive email and to write and read email! That
would be soooo cool! ;-)

BTW: MM/LX now seems to work flawlessly under Palrun 2.
I couldn't hardcore-test it by now, because I have a temporary
test-setup without correct config files and paths set, so I can only do
all these tests with the basic functions the programs provide.

Ah, and one _minor_ bug in palrun 2: When an error message is displayed
(e.g. "PAL application file not found", there is no carriage return
after the string, so the C: prompt appears directly behind the last
character of the error message. At least under DOSEMU, I haven't tested
that under Windows.

Thanks

daniel


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Daniel, the author of the Web site wrote a detailed article for an issue of
The HP Palmtop Paper. The article is still online at the PalmtopPaper.com
site. (As is a review of Framework for the LX.)

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Framework was, at one time, sold by Ashton-Tate. It had some popularity back
in the days when 'integrated software' was in vogue.

I recall shoe-horning it onto an early 100 LX but found that it was way too
slow. The built in software did almost everything that Framework did.

I think a couple of other old-hands used FW on their LXs because they were
running it on the DOS desktops at work. It made swapping files easy.

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Le Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:26:42 -0500
Keith Grider <k=2Egrider@EARTHLINK=2ENET> a =E9crit:

>  It looks like he
> has Linux running on it=20

Not exactly :-(

He is using a telnet client (Lnet) to access to a (i686) linux machine=2E=2E

(see http://www2=2Etokai=2Eor=2Ejp/naoto/computer/images/AUT_0049=2EJPG)

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Russel Brooks wrote:
> > What is PDU?  What does it do?
>
> PDU = Protocol Data Unit = the format, how SMS are transferred
> in the wireless GSM mobile phone net.
>
> Does the answer raise more questions? ;-)

No.  You gave me just enough info to let me know it is related
to a data interface related to cell phones and that I'm not
interested in knowing any more.  It really was the perfect
answer to my question, thanks!

Cheers...  Russ

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Has a keyboard (of sorts) too...
Suresh

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List,

I just received an Accton Ethernet card which had a bad dongle from one =
kind person on the list (thanks again). I have a drawer with a couple of =
dongles which were for 3com cards. I was able to make one that works on =
the Accton from the 3com dongle. As convention, I will use the Accton =
pin numbering system for the dongle/card connector. Pin 1 is towards the =
top of the card as inserted in the hp200LX. The first column is the pin =
number on this connector, the second column is the wire color and the =
third is the connection to the RJ45 connector. (for the RJ45, If you set =
the connector down on a table facing you with the wires facing up, pin =
one is on the far right). It may work with no leds with only 4 wires to =
the RJ45, but I did not try this.=20

card-color-RJ45
1-white-1
2-gray-2
3-blue-(- txrx led)
6-green-(+ link led)
9-yellow-(+ txrx led)
10-orange-(- link led)
14-red-3
15-brown-6

I pinned out the 3com 10/100 dongle and connected it up as per the =
Accton and it works fine. The only difference is that the LEDs are in =
the connector to the card as per 3com spec and it is white. I do not =
know if you can get one of these tiny connectors, but I may go at it and =
make a spare from the RJ45 end of the Accton dongle.

Thought you'd like to know

KeithG

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card-color-RJ45</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1-white-1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2-gray-2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3-blue-(- txrx led)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6-green-(+&nbsp;link led)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9-yellow-(+ txrx led)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10-orange-(- =
link&nbsp;led)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>14-red-3</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>15-brown-6</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I pinned out the 3com 10/100 dongle and =
connected=20
it up as per the Accton and it works fine. The only difference is that =
the LEDs=20
are in the connector to the card as per 3com spec and it is white. I do =
not know=20
if you can get one of these tiny connectors, but I may go at it and make =
a spare=20
from the RJ45 end of the Accton dongle.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thought you'd like to know</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>KeithG</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Tue,  4 Dec 2001 19:19:23 -0500 (EST)

Thank You Bob,Tom & Alan!

I have added

   shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com c:\ /E:512 /P

to my CONFIG.SYS but get an error

   "specified COMMAND search directory bad"


Hmmmm???

I do run Mack's RDSWAP as the last line in my CONFIG.SYS, could that be
problematic?

Cheers...AJKind


02h59m21s ago ...
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Feldman, Robert wrote:

> In Config.sys, use the /E: switch in the SHELL=3D line. The default is =
160
> bytes; you can set it up to, say, /E:512
>
> Your shell i\line might look like:
>
>         SHELL=3DC:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:512 /P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind İmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:20 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Oh No! I'm out of Environment Space!
>
> 12/04/01  4:16 pm -0500
>
> Hello All:
>
>   Sorry to show my DOS ignorance, but I seem to be out of environment
>   space on my LX. My DHCP server here at the University that I plug
>   my LX/Accton into has become very "dynamic" so I have been using
>   Addreas' DHCP & IP-UP. Unfortunately when I run POSTH, I now run out
>   of environment space. I seem to remember there is no way of
>   increasing this memory area, or am I wrong?
>
>   Cheers...AJKind
>
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I had/have the Antec parallel reader and under Win98se it would "get
lost" and reinstalling most of the time would not fix it.  No rhyme or
reason that I could discern.  It also took various sizes which is what I
wanted.  Just my experience.

I've since moved to a usb Sandisk Imagemate CF reader so it does not do
full size pcmcia cards.

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Al Kind wrote:
> I have added
>
>    shell=d:\dos\command.com c:\ /E:512 /P
>
> to my CONFIG.SYS but get an error
>
>    "specified COMMAND search directory bad"

Lose that "c:\" parm, it tells DOS that if it needs to reload
COMMAND.COM in the future it can be found in that directory and
it won't exist in root of C: in the LX.

Use just this-->    shell=d:\dos\command.com /E:512 /P

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I've been using the Microtech Camera Mate card reader/writer for
over a year on W9x systems without any problems whatsoever. At
$99 it wasn't the cheapest but it does handel Type II, III and CF
cards. Someone had sent me the DOS drivers for it but they
shuffled off to byteland when my main system bit the dust a few
months back. If anyone has the drivers please forward them to me.
I'd definitely buy this unit again, it handles the big SanDisk
flashcards and my digital cameras CF cards.

Bob

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If anyone is looking to get one of these, I can point you in the right
direction. The seller wants 20.00 each for a EN2216-1 card. it appears that
sd006 is buying every one that shows up on ebay along with just about
anything else that goes with an LX. If you are sd006, please contact me off
list as well.

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I am a dedicated HPLX user, but I am beginning to get gadget envy.  An
interesting possibility is the upcoming Sharp Zaurus (yes, a blast from the
past) with a retracting keyboard and Linux/Java OS.  I am interested in
thoughts from the gurus on the list.  Web link:
http://developer.sharpsec.com/jindex.cfm

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12/05/01  9:01 am

Hi Russ & All:

  I have increased the /E parm to 1024 and am still getting an "out of
  environment space" error when I run POSTH. Is there any to verify
  that the 1024b is being allocated correctly?

  aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind


On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@pobox.com>wrote:

> Lose that "c:\" parm, it tells DOS that if it needs to reload
> COMMAND.COM in the future it can be found in that directory and
> it won't exist in root of C: in the LX.
>
> Use just this-->    shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /E:512 /P
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
> Al Kind wrote:
> > I have added
> >
> >    shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com c:\ /E:512 /P
> >
> > to my CONFIG.SYS but get an error
> >
> >    "specified COMMAND search directory bad"
>

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> Hi Russ & All:
>
>   I have increased the /E parm to 1024 and am still getting an "out of
>   environment space" error when I run POSTH. Is there any to verify
>   that the 1024b is being allocated correctly?
>
>   aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind

Jorgen had a similar problem running post/lx and dhcp. My
suggestion worked for him, but he may have found a better
solution since then.

see http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0011/msg00288.html

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I needed my Citizen PN60i portable printer for a trip.  I don't use it
very often.  When I fired it up to use, it seems as if the ribbon
carriage has disconnected itself from the drive mechanism.  In other
words, it won't autmoatically move the print carriage side to side.
I can turn it up on end and the carriage just freely slides to the
load/unload position.

Before I toss it, I thought I would ask if anyone has had any similar
problems and if it is straightforward to repair.  I see that Citizen
no longer sells these pocket printers.  Is there an alternative?

-Chris Lott


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Wed,  5 Dec 2001 10:23:01 -0500 (EST)

Hey Mike:

  THANKS! Works great! I set "Junk=3Dqwerty(...to 150 char)" in
  autoexec.bat, and set "junk=3D" in peh.bat. As you see it works just as
  it did for Jorgen.


  Cheers...AJKind

30m27s ago ...
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> > Hi Russ & All:
> >
> >   I have increased the /E parm to 1024 and am still getting an "out =
of
> >   environment space" error when I run POSTH. Is there any to verify
> >   that the 1024b is being allocated correctly?
> >
> >   aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind
>
> Jorgen had a similar problem running post/lx and dhcp. My
> suggestion worked for him, but he may have found a better
> solution since then.
>
> see http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0011/msg00288.html
>
> Mike
>
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Date:         Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:58:48 -0600
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Al Kind wrote:
> I have added
>   shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com c:\ /E:512 /P
> to my CONFIG.SYS but get an error
>    "specified COMMAND search directory bad"

Try

  shell=c:\command.com C:\ /E:512 /P

The 3D was an artifact in the reply.  It wasn't intended as part
of the line.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> 1. When NOT using the -w option, I have sometimes a dark screen.

The dark screen is caused by a bug in the PAL library. Andreas
fixed it and new relreases of his programs will no longer show
this behaviour. The bug only happens on desktops, because PAL
is platform aware. It acts different on palmtops and desktops.
Until new releases are available, the -w switch of PALRUN is a
workaroung. It disables all screen mode changes. This is also
important if you want to run PAL applications in a DOS window
without the annoying fullscreen/window forth and back switching.

> 2. In Post/LX: If I use the -p option...

the -p shall only be used with PE, as the doc and helpscreen
says. In simulates fast scroll by disabling scroll at all.
The background is, that PE needs no scroll on the desktop.
Again, Andreas is aware of this and will probably make scroll
a PE.CFG configurable entry. But POST needs to scroll on the
desktop. If you switched it off, it cannot scroll.

Similar applies to the -m switch, which detects Alt-m as menu
key. You must not use -m with D&A products, because it will
disable Alt-m, and you have no way to enter the menu. The
background here is, that PALRUN exchanges Alt-m through the
menu keycode. But Andreas checks for the menu key AND the Alt
key, and Alt-Menu is an invalid keycombination for him.

That means: You have to use different PALRUN switches depending
on the PAL application you want to run. There is no general
setup possible, working in all situations, unless all PAL
applications behave the same way, which will possibly happen in
the future, but only for still supported programs. HV for
example is discontinued and will never take advantage of a
newer PAL library.

> Ah, and one _minor_ bug in palrun 2: When an error message is displayed
> (e.g. "PAL application file not found", there is no carriage return
> after the string, so the C: prompt appears directly behind the last
> character of the error message. At least under DOSEMU, I haven't tested
> that under Windows.

this only happens for Babushkas (programs running under
programs, running under programs....) It is only cosmetic
and I found it more important to save some bytes than having
a nice appearance in a false configured surrounding.

The new bigger screens supported by PALRUN-2 will also only
be of advantage, if the application uses them. I know of none
than the DEMO in the archive, which I wrote to show the new
features of PALRUN. Indeed all features except for the bigger
screens are not new to the palmtop, where they have been
available (but unused) from the very beginning.

Here is a list of the new features:

Dec. 03/01: V.2.0 Release by Stefan Peichl:
  Better memory management saves precious 60KB!
  PALRUN now only uses  21KB of memory (was 81KB).
  New MINIPAL uses only  5KB of memory.
  MINIPAL as TSR takes   3KB of memory only.
  Support of 640x350 EGA and 800x600 SGA.
  HP95 Video mode is mapped to CGA.
  Support of tiny 6x8 font.
  Support of vertical output.
  Default screen mode changed to reverse VGA.
  HFN font size is reduced between 25% and 50%.
  Optional TSR functionality added.
  Optional detection of Alt-M as Menu key.
  Optional Windows awareness.
  Optional "fast scroll" for PE (i.e. no scroll)
  Reverse Video is now the default.
  Command line switches more intuitive now.
  ASCII character 127 is the EURO sign  .
  80186 opcodes used for speed reasons.
  Conditional assembly requires TASM.
  Bug fixes:
     - Rep Rule byte   bug fixed.
     - Put & Get image bug fixed.
     - Plot Line rule  bug fixed.
     - PE Cursor shape bug fixed.
     - Clip region support added.

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Has everyone seen this?

This is very cool.

 http://www.humanclock.com/webserver.php

If these can be done on a Model 100, I know it can be done on the
100/200LX.

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Tue,  4 Dec 2001 10:34:21 +0000 (GMT)

Bob,

That's a good idea - I'll give it a try.  I have been using the card as
is - i.e. whatever format it came in.  It seems to work so I haven't
messed around with it.

I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers

Mark

07h48m47s ago ...
On Mon,  3 Dec 2001 19:45:34 -0700 (CST), Robert K. Meyer wrote:

>
> Last week, I tried to optimize my 128MB Sandisk CF and Drive C. It would
> not optimize. I had previously ran Norton Speed Disk 4.5. Well, anyway,
> I backed up all, formatted the CF in my HP618 camera, initialized C:,
> reloaded all and optimize worked. I tried the same scenario on a 16MB
> CF. I've forgotten (old age?) what happened.
>
> With the above results, you might try a reformat from the LX itself and
> a reinitialization of C: after backing up your files. Maybe some disk
> finagling programs change something in the boot record to foul up
> optimize.
>
> Bob
>

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On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Qman wrote:

> Has everyone seen this?
>
> This is very cool.
>
>  http://www.humanclock.com/webserver.php
>
> If these can be done on a Model 100, I know it can be done on the
> 100/200LX.

;-)

Some of those statements in the source code look unfamiliar to
me, but then it's been years since I did anything with TRS
basic. Amazing what monkeys can come up with.

(Actually, I'm curious if it really does anything)

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Hi all,
      I have some bits of software to share.  It is a collection of files
from the HP-200LX which I've developed over the years; they are mostly but
not entirely 1-2-3 spreadsheets for various numeric calculations. Here is
what's included:

123NOTES.GDB:   An HP dBase file with extensive notes about v2.04 of
Lotus 1-2-3 and its macro languge.  *thanks again Avi & Dave*

EATS.GDB:       A physicist's profession requires a lot of travel.  No
point in going hungry, too :)

EMvec.pcx:      A single page covered with various electromagnetic laws
and vector calculus theorums. Can be viewed with LXpic or a similar
viewer.

AUTO123.WK1:    This worksheet, by virtue of its name, is
automatically loaded when 1-2-3 is started, if the Worksheet Global
Default Autoexec flag is on.  I use it in place of HPCalc; it does
basic arithmatic with propagation of uncertainties, sums in
quadrature, degree/radian convertions.

COMPLEX.WK1:    This worksheet does complex arithmetic, including
both rectangular and polar forms, exponentials and logarithms.

FIT.WK1:        Fits up to 50 (X,Y) data points, with uncertainties dY
in Y, to an arbitrary function of up to 6 variables, with complete
covariance matrix.  The algorithm does require that the initial guess
be fairly good though!

FUNCS.WK1:      That most useful of all special functions, the gamma
function.  Also, a note about how to evaluate Bessel functions of the
1st kind (the J functions) using INTEG.WK1.

INTEG.WK1:      Numeric integration in 1d, with simple 256 point
trapezoidal rule, and plotting to make sure you haven't shot yourself
in the foot.

VECTOR.WK1:     Basic vector arithmetic in 3 dimensions, plain 'ol
Euclidian metric.

It's freeware - email me for a zip file.

                                              Leo
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Hello,

Wow, a japanes company with webpage in EN as well, so the english speaking
can look here for the phone info:

www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/phs/email_p/611s/611s.html

My collegue, who had been to Japan, says PHS phones are not GSM nor
US-GSM?

Bye, Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:05:50 +0100
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> Some of those statements in the source code look unfamiliar to
> me, but then it's been years since I did anything with TRS
> basic. Amazing what monkeys can come up with.
>
> (Actually, I'm curious if it really does anything)

Although I've never used the Tandy-100, I'm willing to bet it's *not* a
port of the Apache web server or even remotely related ;-) It looks like a
generic basic loader for a machine code program (often used technique on
8-bit home computers), but some things look fishy, like these lines for
instance:

10020 PEEK FD$
10030 POKE FD$
10040 POOP FD$
10050 PUKE FD * 7

This will not make sense in any BASIC variant I've ever used. Even if POOP
and PUKE are proper commands (which I somehow doubt :-), POKE takes an
additional argument and a PEEK where the result is discarded does not make
much sense to me either...


bye,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:12:31 +0100
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Hello,

www.cs.arizona.edu/japan/www/atip/public/atip.reports.95/atip95.98r.html

http://iroi.seu.edu.cn/books/whatis/phs.htm

Is guess it is SLOWLY dying, giving way to much hyped 3G mobiles (GSM).

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Avi Meshar wrote:

> Stefan and I just got into some crucial discussion on the
> potential for partitioning of drives as a secondary effect of
> the program he just posted which turns off the "removeble disk"
> indicator vis-a-vis PCMCIA.

Actually I'm not sure, if NODELAY goes that deep. It only
answers to DOS always, that the media has not been changed.
I don't know, if this identical to stating: It is an unremovable
media, or if there is another flag for DOS, where this kind of
information is derived from.

> I believe I last asked something about if this is true, can it
> be tested, and what are the worst-case scenarios of such a
> test? Thereafter I think there was a reply, but I lost the
> drives before I could read the posts.

AFAIK the worst scenario would be, that you have to FDISK100
and FORMAT your card again. But don't make me responsible, if
this is not true!

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Date:         Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:19:47 -0500
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Hi all,

the new palrun is very good. I now use minipal, which is
lightning fast. Excellent result, Stefan!!!

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Date:         Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:46:59 +0200
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Hi Marta, Hi Larry!

I have tried to send you an email but this attempt failed.

Larry: Your mailbox is full (as I can read in the error message).
Please tell me if you have received my mail regarding "LED lights
ready"!

Marta: Your address which I have doesn't seem to be valid. Please give
me an address which I can definitely use!

Thanks
daniel


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Hi Gang

I'm a victim of the EXCITE@HOME debacle.

I have successfully updated my WWWLX mail setup for point
to @shaw.ca instead of @home.com.

I am trying to update my WWWLX setup to pick up Shaw's
News server.

In robot.cfg and post.cfg, I updated the İNEWS¨ section to with
the
new IP address of the server.

Server=24.64.223.211

Then in the İHMN¨ section of robot.cfg, I reset the
most-recently-read
news items to zeroes.

When I run

www Ethernet "!c:\wwwlx\post.exe"

and try to retrieve news, ROBOLX pops up and displays a message
for about 1 microsecond.  It then drops back to POSTLX.

I do know that Userid/Password are not required to access the
News server.

How can I trap the message so I have some idea of what is wrong?

Also, does anyone have a favourite FREEWARE FTP client for
Windows?
I have 5 web sites to move from @HOME to SHAW and the web-based
"move 'em one at a time" process at @HOME is a little tedious.

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Hi,

I have 1) PC/Win95 connected to Internet via network and 2) (of course) =
HP200LX. I'd like to connect HP200LX to Internet using "hard-wired" PPP =
between HP and PC. I'm looking for some software working as "PPP server" =
on PC. Does anybody know something about it?

Thanks

Pavel Zampach
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Thu,  6 Dec 2001 19:55:23 +1300 (NZDT)

02h32m23s ago ...
On Wed,  5 Dec 2001 20:23:00 -0800, Gary Jacek wrote:

> How can I trap the message so I have some idea of what
> is wrong?

Gary - normally ROBONEWS/LX is started thus:

ROBOT.EXE NNTP

Instead, if you use

ROBOT.EXE -w NNTP

and there is an on-line error ROBOT.EXE will pause and wait for
you to press a key befor continuing.

I wrote the scripts, and I wonder what the error is. Normally I
would reset the HMN to "-25" or so, so on your first run you
get the last 25 messages. I am not sure what effect resetting
to zero will have - should no give an erro though. Also it's
probably best to use the server name rather than the IP
numbers - only because it's less error prone to type, and
likely to not need changing as often as the numbers.

ciao, Tony

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Steve wrote:
>    Well I see you are by now restoring things, so
> it is probably too late to look at the disks with
> a low-level disk editor.  But the last time I saw

I did not have one here on any of the PCMCIAs, and did not
have access to one readily which I knew how to use "fluently".
I was not going to take any chances of ruining a PCMCIa
because I did not know how to use a piece of software.

> a simultaneous loss of two disk drives was because
> of a virus.  Every ninth sector was erased on both
> drives.  PC/XT type of machine too, so it could act
> on our 200LX (though it could never infect the boot
> sector of course).  It got a bunch of diskettes as
> well.

If that is the damage, then how would have helped me fix
anything? I could not possibly go through a 512MB drive and
manually fix evey 9 sector, or recover it. I thought of
various ways to try to walk into the drive and see what is
there. Norton utilities, which I had, said that it can recover
the drive, all 64MB, but it turned out to be all junk, could
not even see literal strings in it.

>    I have seen Windows corrupt the partition infor-
> mation and root directories on a number of occasions.
> Norton Utilities Unformat recovered most of the data
> on some of those instances.  Again, not worth trying
> if you have begun restoring files.

I did some stuff, but only with what I had handy. Thereafter
what I _could_ lay hands on was not familiar, and meant I
could potentially make the drive unusable, which was not a
risk I was prepared to take, and so after about half a day of
various trials and investigation, I cut my losses.

The interesting point is that I do NOT believe it was a virus,
unless it was at once very sophisticated and very simple! The
failure here was of two different types of media: A: drive
PCMCIA (ATA), and a drive implemented in memory board using
RDT2T as the driver. So it seems not that reasonable to assume
that the same "agent" caused both failures, unless it is
environmental - say a power surge.

> But if someone
> else "loses" a drive, it might be worth trying before
> anything else is done.

Agree, Your assumption that I did not is not sorrect. I wanted
to see if I can come to some conclusion about what happen,
learn something, so it does not happen again, that's why I
spent half a day, at various strategies. I did not initialize
anything for quite some time, and kept working with the dead
machine and so on. I pressed into service my back palmtop and
rebuilt there what I could on its C: drive so it could help me
with the investigation. It was very frustrating to follow
several routes and come up empty each time.

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Hi Ed,

I doubt it is a virus because we have two VERY different media
here, and one of them takes a driver. I rather think it must
an "envelope push" in that some electrical spike chopped off
the two drives, somehow.

The nature of the failure of the flash card is that I have
NOTHING on the drive, it is like it was reset massivelt and
eroed out. The C: drive is missing boot sector and then was
only 16MB in size, not the full 64MB. I could see both drives.
Chkdsk said I had a huge number of invalid file lengths.
Basically the whole drive was filled with garbage files.

  Avi


Ed Padin wrote:
> I know it's unlikely but it sounds like a virus. I have had my flash
> drive go bad before but it was always when I was pushing the envelope
> (trying new softwares, etc.) I never had it happen through routine
> usage. What's the nature of the flash card failure? Can you see the
> drive at all? Does chckdsk say anything?
>
> BTW: I added a subject

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Victor Beazel wrote:
> Here's a heads up on some cheap modems (model #XJ1144). I just bought =
one
> using "Buy It Now" for a total of $5.50 including S&H.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1305445926
>
> By the way, do any you have the necessary drivers for this modem?  This =
is my
> first attempt at getting connected with my HP200LX.  If any of you =
could send
> me the appropriate settings, etc., I would much appreciate it.

Most of the modems DO NOT require drivers. Waaaay back in the
past they did, but generalized on the Hayes commands and
relatively standard chipsets.

There was a class of modems called Winmodems. They required
drivers, but mostly because they were "dumb hardware", and the
real work was done by the CPU and Windows O/S. But I think
what you have is not of this class of modems.

> One last question, what text-based ISPs work the best?  I currently use =
an
> ISP that is local to Albuquerque, but I am looking for something cheap =
(or
> better yet, free) for when I travel (just in USA).  Any suggestions?

ISPs are not text-based or otherwise-based. The terms simply
have nothing to do with each other. It may be that the ISP
told you they support Windows only, but that is literally
that: They know nothing about any other ways to connect except
a Windows based program, which sometimes they supply,
sometimes not. ISPs like this generally will give you
sufficinet information to connect with whatever program you
want. (FYI, there is NOTHING in the connection software that
tells the ISP's server that _you_ use Windows, Mac, a
mainframe, SUn workstation, or any of maybe more than 200
different varieties of Operating systems and machines.

So the question is rather moot, kinda like "Do you go to
school or carry your own sandwiches?" <G>...

Free ISPs are NEVER free. One exception is maybe the college
you went to. but your Alma mater may not provide you with a
connection either. Check out AT&T 7 plus 7 program.

The "free" ISPs derive their income from advertising. This
means they will be aggressive about shoving commercial in your
face, interfering with your usage. With ad money dwindling,
they may disappear overnight, leaving you with email that
cannot reach you. The most important thing is to find a
company that can connecct you to the Net. Bigger companies
usually have better staying power. Once you are connected to
the Internet, you can even check out Yahoo's mailboxes at
http://mail.yahoo.com - they are free, and I have shown before
how you can use these accounts on the Palmtop, not just on the
Web. Using Yahoo on the Web pays their way, as they put ever
more aggressive ads in front of you.

When you travel, AT&T has many local numbers. If you use as
the mailbox provider something like Yahoo, subdimension,
whatever, you can then check your email from ANY
internet-connected terminal (but be aware that your
confidential email WILL be on the machines connecting those
terminals!) So there is a convenience vs. privacy choices to
make.

Compuserve is a good service that costs $9.95 per month for 5
hours connect time (Compuserve Classic). This means you pay
for the time after you dialled up using their numbers/network.
Generally, it is sufficient for light users - you dial in,
grab your email, upload whatever you prepared offline to send
out, and get out. Consider that too.

AOL, the big name, is NOT a standard ISP in terms of Internet
standards. They use their own lohgin protocol (i.e. you must
use their own program to dial up). They also do not use a
standard email server, which means again, you must use their
programs. These do not run on the Palmtop.

Hope this helps.

Last comment: I have to mention that I am a principal at D&A
Software, makers of WWW/LX Version 3 which includes one the
best programs to connect to internet and manage your email.
You can check it out at http://www.dasoft.com.

All the best,

  Avi




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Mike Kopplin wrote:
> The individual posts for the current month are listed here,
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/current/maillist.html, in
> chronological order.

Bingo! That's the one I wanted. Thanks. I'll record it.
Thanks.

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> I think your question is good: How many people have a need to
> run Palrun on 8086 machine

Maybe I am missing something here.

Palrun is a program to enable PAL programs to run on a desktop.
PAL programs are primarily written to run on the palmtop,
though.  So, I would expect that the PAL programs are compiled
for use on a 80186 processor.

Therefore, even if there was a Palrun targetted for a 8086
processor, how many PAL applications would run with it on a
8086 processor? And how would the person wanting to use the PAL
program on the 8086 processor know whether it would even run on
an 8086? This is not the sort of information I have ever seen
in any PAL program's documentation.  I would think it is
assumed to run on a palmtop (80186) or better computer.


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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:05:51 +0200
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Another very good (in my opinion) Morse code program is MC12. It is compact, can
run on the palmtop and has a host of features that enables your own training
program to be fully customised i.e. random, specific text, conversion of text
files, screen or paper copy etc.

The info from the included documentation provided the following:
Freeware Morse Code Trainer 1.2 de KB9PSL (C) 1997 David Nye (nyeda@uwec.edu)

Hope this info is of assistance.

All the best from sunny South Africa!

73

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Hi Guys and gals,

I recently got my Accton card working. I can ping and telnet and FTP around
the LAN and the internet with no problems, but I cannot make it work in
Windows networks (Netbeui).
what I have collected: lxmnp10b.zip from Rod Whitby's collection and I have
gone on to look at the other resources he lists there. I have the ether3.zip
from SUPER.
what I have noticed: The process used to 'turn on' the card and the packet
driver for TCP/IP are different between Rod's batch files and the ether3
package. Oh well. Both seem to work as in I get 'net view' to show most of
the computers on the LAN from the HP200LX (the server does not show up, but
it probably has something to do with the fact that it is running SAMBA under
Linux, but that is not important right now). All of the rest of the
computers on the LAN are running Win2000. I probably will not be able to log
into the win2000 computers (encryption and a different logon process than
what the old WfWg software that we are running here on the LX), but I should
be able to access the share (C:\) on the HP200LX. I cannot. The LX shows up
in the network neighborhood from my win2k machine as:

C:\>net view
Server Name            Remark
-----------------------------------------------
\\BEARING
\\GRIPPO               Grippo Samba Server
\\HP200LX              MS-DOS Peer Server
\\PAT
The command completed successfully.

If I double click the icon in the network neighborhood or type net view
\\HP20LX, I get

C:\> net view \\HP200LX
System error 50 has occurred.

The network request is not supported.

Does anyone know how to fix this? If not this answer, does anyone have
anything that does work which is a modification or different from what Rod
has already compiled for us?

Regards,

Keith Grider

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> This will not make sense in any BASIC variant I've
> ever used. Even if POOP and PUKE are proper
> commands (which I somehow doubt :-), POKE
> takes an additional argument and a PEEK where
> the result is discarded does not make much sense
> to me either...

I've done a lot of Model 100 programming, lo those many years
ago, and you're correct.

I can't get on that site right now.  They're probably down at
the moment.  But I'm curious and I'll take a look.  I still have
a Model 100.  Actually 2 of them and a Model 102 and a Model
200. :)

Barry

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I lost the email for the person needing the WordPerfect v5.1 files.
If he/she is still around, I have them now...  :-)

Shane




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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I lost the email for the person needing the WordPerfect v5.1 files.</FONT>
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Hi friends,

I have written LED light usage instructions for those of you who have
bought an LED light recently.
I made them available for everyone, maybe it's interesting for others,
too:

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight/usage.shtml

But please - no more orders! I have sold all LED lights.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

I have just made my first real attempts to establish a GPRS connection
over my T39m and the palmtop with WWW/LX.

1. I have logged in to my cell network provider E-Plus using the phone,
so that if I use the down-key on the left side of the phone to view the
phone status, I see: "GPRS: @WAP over GPRS". I can receive WAP data
with the phone.

1a Answer question "connection still active - hold connection?" with
"yes"

2. Switch the IrDA interface on.

3. let WWW/LX connect using the patched WWW version and Martin's
config.

Result: The process stops after the dial string has been sent to the
phone and after a while, it aborts. :-(

==============
WWW/LX 3.1c - Internet module for HP palmtop computers
by A. Garzotto
Last compilation: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:29:10 MET
Supported options: SLIP PPP Ethernet IrDA Debugging
Copyright (c), 1996 - 2001, D&A Software Inc., All rights reserved.

Licensed to Daniel Hertrich.

Connecting (???)...

>>> Press CTRL to interrupt! <<<

Initializing modem
Dialing *99*0*1*1#
GOT:
*99*0*1*1#
*** Aborting! Broken connection or timeout while waiting
    for 'CONNECT'
Exiting WWW/LX.

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I have also used the second dial string Martin gave me, but to no
avail.

Martin, Tony, others: Do you have any idea what's going on here?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:22:47 -0500
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Avi wrote:

> > of a virus.  Every ninth sector was erased on both
> > drives.  PC/XT type of machine too, so it could act
> > on our 200LX (though it could never infect the boot
> > sector of course).  It got a bunch of diskettes as
> > well.
>
> If that is the damage, then how would have helped me fix
> anything? I could not possibly go through a 512MB drive and
> manually fix evey 9 sector, or recover it.

It would not have helped.  It would only have shown
a pattern that would have explained the cause.

> Norton utilities, which I had, said that it can recover
> the drive, all 64MB, but it turned out to be all junk, could
> not even see literal strings in it.

That can be most disappointing.  Sorry to hear that.

> and so after about half a day of
> various trials and investigation, I cut my losses.

Right.  The only real course of action available.

> The interesting point is that I do NOT believe it was a virus,
> unless it was at once very sophisticated and very simple! The
> failure here was of two different types of media:

Well, the virus case I saw did in two hard drives and
a bunch of floppies, so it was two differing media types.

> > But if someone
> > else "loses" a drive, it might be worth trying before
> > anything else is done.

> Agree, Your assumption that I did not is not sorrect.

Indeed, sorry.  Most times (thankfully) recovery has
been possible for me.  Though with bigger hard drives
and more bloatware, it is getting more difficult.

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Stefan wrote:

> It only
> answers to DOS always, that the media has not been changed.
> I don't know, if this identical to stating: It is an unremovable
> media, or if there is another flag for DOS, where this kind of
> information is derived from.

The removable media information is distinct from the
changed media flag.  The removable media information
is obtained from an IOCTL function call (fn 4408H).

> AFAIK the worst scenario would be, that you have to FDISK100
> and FORMAT your card again.

Sounds about right.  I got a new card and tried to put
two partitions on it to see how the 200LX reacts.  FDISK100
seems to set things up more like a big floppy than a hard
drive.  Windows FDISK creates partitions that the 200LX
cannot read (at a first test at least).  Some weird goings
on anyway.

Steve

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Yea, you need a proxy server!
Download and install one of the following:

Simple Server
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/sswww.htm

WinGate
http://www.wingate.com

WinRoute
http://www.winroute.com




HTH
Qman...

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From: Pavel ZAMPACH <zampach@NEMCB.CZ>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Hard-wired PPP
Date: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:43 PM

Hi,

I have 1) PC/Win95 connected to Internet via network and 2) (of course)
HP200LX. I'd like to connect HP200LX to Internet using "hard-wired" PPP
between HP and PC. I'm looking for some software working as "PPP server" on
PC. Does anybody know something about it?

Thanks

Pavel Zampach
zampach@nemcb.cz

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On Wed,  5 Dec 2001 07:56:38 -0500, Keith Grider wrote:

> If anyone is looking to get one of these, I can point you in the right
> direction. The seller wants 20.00 each for a EN2216-1 card.

Somebody wrote a message to this list a long time ago about a firm that
sold EN2216-1. I bought two EN2216-1 cards from this guy. I now have
two EN2216-1 and a EN2216-2.

I can have a look and see if I can find the emails I had with this guy
If anyone is interested,

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Hi

Amazing what you can find when you look around in the folders of
POST/LX :-)

This is a post from a year ago.. Maybe he still have some cards left or
maybe it is the same guy that we are talking about in the other
thread.

I think I bought from Lanmarket, but I am not sure.. No I do not think
so, but maybe they have some left.

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:20:18 -0700
From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Accton card test "results"

Somebody pointed the List to this dealer in a previous post, but I thought
it would be worthwhile posting it again. They used to sell the EN2216-1 card
for $15 (refurbished), but now it is $25 (refurbished, with dongle). This is
a good deal, since they want the same price for the dongle alone!


http://www.lanmarket.com/products/prodPreview.asp?VisID=20814221030IGAKG0011
29091425&Fam=EN2216%2D1

They also have some product literature in pdf format, and might be able to
provide tech support.

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hi all,

i am thinking of buying the greenwich serial-parallel printer cable
available at thaddeus and use it with canon inkjet printers - bjc 4200, 2100
and 250. i will appreciate it if anybody who has used it can share his/her
experience.

i also intend to use word5.5 for dos in an 8-meg 200LX. i am aware that the
software has a large file (4 MB?) and not everything has to be loaded. can
anyone help me identify the files i should use (given that i will use canon
inkjet printers).

any help will be appreciated.

aloha from mililani, hawaii

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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:39:24 -0500
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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Like hell, you say?

Well, this looks pretty close. Has anyone any experience with these
things. The price is good. It looks good enough to make me consider
trying out a palm.

http://www.seiko-austin.com

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Steve wrote:
> Stefan wrote:
> > It only
> > answers to DOS always, that the media has not been changed.
> > I don't know, if this identical to stating: It is an unremovable
> > media, or if there is another flag for DOS, where this kind of
> > information is derived from.
>
> The removable media information is distinct from the
> changed media flag.  The removable media information
> is obtained from an IOCTL function call (fn 4408H).
>
> > AFAIK the worst scenario would be, that you have to FDISK100
> > and FORMAT your card again.
>
> Sounds about right.  I got a new card and tried to put
> two partitions on it to see how the 200LX reacts.  FDISK100
> seems to set things up more like a big floppy than a hard
> drive.  Windows FDISK creates partitions that the 200LX
> cannot read (at a first test at least).  Some weird goings
> on anyway.

I played around with partitioning some. About the only scheme
that worked for me was two primary partitions. Whichever one was
set active was seen by the LX as the A: drive. Setting both
active did not give an A: and B: drive.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:47:47 -0500
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Sorry about the HTML. I got it too. Just a setup issue and I will try to
make sure it doesn't happen again.

Somebody on the list gave me one and I offered to pay for shipping. If there
are any more Accton cards out there with bad dongles, I would be willing to
take them as well...

Keith
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From: "Ed Padin" <ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>
To: "Keith Grider" <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: accton dongle


> >I just received an Accton Ethernet card which had a >>bad dongle from
> one kind person on the list (thanks >again).
>
> Did somebody here sell you a bad card or was it a gift?
>
> BTW: you got a buncha html on your messages. Someone's eventually
> gonna start belly-aching about it. Many people o the list hate to see
> wasted bandwidth.
>
>

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> > I think your question is good: How many people have a need to
> > run Palrun on 8086 machine
>
> Maybe I am missing something here. .......

I think it is not a question of importance anyway. I installed PALRUN
on my secretarys desktop today and she loved it - both the inverse
color as well as the trimming of the lines in the PIM/PE GUI.

Once again a great job, Stefan.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Just wanted to let you know, my auction for the PCMCIA flash card reader is
over in several hours. It's only up to $5. So if someone is looking for a
good price on one, this might just be it... :-)
Check it out... it's Item # 1304914453

Mike...

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>Just wanted to let you know, my auction for
> the PCMCIA flash card reader is  over in
> several hours. It's only up to $5.

Fear not, all the action is in the last few minutes of an eBay
auction...

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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:17:00 -0500
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
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I'm sorry they got your hopes up.  This is a joke, though not a
particularly funny one.

If in doubt:

"The graphic files are stored on magnetic tape accessed via a modified
Radio Shack personal cassette player... The storage media consists of a
single TDK type I cassette tape... We estimate that roughtly 4 gigabytes of
data can be stored before we have to turn over the cassette..."

If humanity had the technology to store and retrieve 8GB of data on a plain
ferrous oxide cassette tape -- even WITHOUT the stated limitations of using
audio modulation fed through the headphone jack of a standard low-quality
audio cassette recorder --
, I have little doubt our palmtop flash cards would store a petabyte or
two.  Poor Harry Nyquist is probably spinning in his grave at the very
thought.  :o)

In addition, the so-called "source code" is just so much rubbish.

Cheers,
Rick,
who points out that this being a joke does NOT mean it can't be done on an
LX.

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On 12/5/2001 at 10:02 AM Qman wrote:

>Has everyone seen this?
>
>This is very cool.
>
> http://www.humanclock.com/webserver.php
>
>If these can be done on a Model 100, I know it can be done on the
>100/200LX.
>
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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:44:27 -0800
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Longden,

I was intrigued by your description of Framework IV, as well as the fact
that you have it running on a 200LX.  Well, just today, I went to a used
computer store I had not visited before, and there it was, a shrink-wrapped
copy of FW IV for $5!   So, I have it here now and have been going over the
documentation.  One question I have that does not seem to be addressed is:
how much disk space does FW IV take up?  I have a SanDisk 220mb ATA card in
my 200LX, so I'm not worried about running out of space, was just wondering
what to expect when I do install this.

Martin G. Ramirez


>The program is an old-style integrated package of applications, similar in
>concept to MS Works (word processor, spreadsheet, database, etc), developed
>by the makers of DBase (Ashton-Tate) ... specifically by Robert M. Carr.
>It basically was another killer-app that met its match.
>
>I run FW4 on my 200LX (had used this app on my desktops/notebooks since
>FW2).
>
>FW runs like Windows (it called them "frames" before there were "windows")
>and organizes data elements in nested frames, with one view of a collection
>of data looking very much like an outline.
>
>It includes its own programming language, called "FRED".
>
>After Ashton-Tate was acquired by Borland, the rights to FW got muddied and
>apparently, the (supposed) current owner has taken the code to add
>improvements.  FW has always worked on the 200LX, since it's a DOS
>application, with the only quirk being that the numeric grey +/- keys on a
>desktop, which are essential to navigating in FW, aren't evident on the LX.
>The current FW owner got the notion of modifying FW to run on the 200LX and
>remapped two keys to support the grey +/-.  He was surprised when I told
>him it was that F11/F12 would do the same thing as grey +/- ... and that
>F11/F12 were supported already on the LX using Fn-1/Fn-2.
>
>FW also had a nice dictionary/thesaurus built-in.  If I had a 1000CX (the
>bare-bones machine) ... no doubt that it'd be FW that I'd run on it.  Like
>the pundits used to say ... its apps were so-so, but its integration using
>the outliner concept made it greater than the sum of its parts.
>
>I was tempted to try FW5, but the asking price was too high for the limited
>improvements.
>
>It's a good program that does a lot of things, but most LXers could do
>about the same using the basic PIMs.
>
>- Longden
>
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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:32:52 EST
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Leo,

Please email the zipped DWEEBPAK to me.

I misplaced your email address.

I apologize to the other list members for taking up their time.

Kat

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Group,

I think that this is correct: Since the documentation has been written for
the connection of the LX to a windows network (1998?), Microsoft has changed
the way things work with their networking protocol (for the better,
actually). The authentication protocol has changed and that 'broke' the
older WfWG software, apparently. To mount shares from Win2k or XP machine on
the LX, you have to change the registry to accept unencrypted passwords.
Still, the HPLX will only 'show up' on the Win2k/XP machine and you will not
be able to mount any of the HP's shares on the windows machine. I have still
not figured out how to do this. I would assume that you could load the
drivers on boot and then be able to print over the network, but that is not
important to me. Any further information appreciated.

The link for the information is:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q147706

the correct level is '2', Level '0' did not work. With level 2, I was able
to mount shares on the LX. I do not find this terribly useful. I would
prefer to mount the LX on the Windows machine for backup purposes and file
sharing. If anyone has figured this out, please let me know. I find it
pretty odd that the 'WfWG' software and drivers we are using will not allow
'shares' to 'appear' in net view (network neighborhood). The machine will
appear, but no shares. The reason that I find this odd is that win95/98
shares would appear and be able to be manipulated from the win2k machine,
but the win95/98 could not connect to any shares of the win2k machine. The
reason is that the protocol on the win95/98 machines would not send the
appropriate logon (user/pass) when it tried to mount a share. Further
information would be appreciated.
What I did finally decide on was to use lxtelnet as an ftp server and use a
graphical ftp client on the win2k machine to facilitate file transfers. It
is a boat load faster than transfile200 over the serial cable! My router
here at home runs a DHCP server and it serves the bootp client (hp200lx)
just fine. At work, I had to add the bootp configuration information to the
DHCP server setup, but it also works fine as well. If I find I am using it a
lot again, I will probably have to spring for www/lx as that seems to be the
www client of choice. It is a shame that no one has ported the stripped down
dos based lynx for the LX.

Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:25:20 -0800
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Howdy,

This corruption sounds strange 16MB drive size, every 9th sector bad,
drive empty and so on.

Was a utility run that ran under DOS 1.0 or so? If a utility was run on
the drive that did not know about large files, large partitions, exact
directory structure, disk header and such - the disk header could have
gotten trashed. Remember the early xt machines had only 8 sectors on the
diskettes. If the utility doesn't know about 9 sectors, only 8, the 9th
will appear to be bad because it is really the first sector on the next
track.

David Peterson

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 02:57:23 -0800 Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> Hi Ed,
>
> I doubt it is a virus because we have two VERY different media
> here, and one of them takes a driver. I rather think it must
> an "envelope push" in that some electrical spike chopped off
> the two drives, somehow.
>
> The nature of the failure of the flash card is that I have
> NOTHING on the drive, it is like it was reset massivelt and
> eroed out. The C: drive is missing boot sector and then was
> only 16MB in size, not the full 64MB. I could see both drives.
> Chkdsk said I had a huge number of invalid file lengths.
> Basically the whole drive was filled with garbage files.
>
>   Avi
>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> > I know it's unlikely but it sounds like a virus. I have had my
> flash
> > drive go bad before but it was always when I was pushing the
> envelope
> > (trying new softwares, etc.) I never had it happen through
> routine
> > usage. What's the nature of the flash card failure? Can you see
> the
> > drive at all? Does chckdsk say anything?
> >
> > BTW: I added a subject
>
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> hi all,
>
> i am thinking of buying the greenwich serial-parallel printer cable
> available at thaddeus and use it with canon inkjet printers - bjc 4200, 2100
> and 250. i will appreciate it if anybody who has used it can share his/her
> experience.
>
> i also intend to use word5.5 for dos in an 8-meg 200LX. i am aware that the
> software has a large file (4 MB?) and not everything has to be loaded. can
> anyone help me identify the files i should use (given that i will use canon
> inkjet printers).


I don't generally print from the HP so I do not have any printer drivers
for Word 5.5



Here's the files that allow it to work:

MW       HLP       270,360  05-06-00 11:27a MW.HLP
NORMAL   GLY        29,184  05-06-00 11:27a NORMAL.GLY
NORMAL   STY         1,792  05-06-00 11:27a NORMAL.STY
SCREENN  VID        16,020  05-06-00 11:27a SCREENN.VID
SPELL-AM LEX       184,371  05-06-00 11:28a SPELL-AM.LEX
THES-AM  LEX       355,065  05-06-00 11:29a THES-AM.LEX
MW       INI           258  05-06-00 11:29a MW.INI
HYPH     DAT        24,072  05-06-00 11:29a HYPH.DAT
WORD55   EXE       738,281  07-24-95 12:31p WORD55.EXE
SCREENC  VID        19,597  11-12-99  1:07p SCREENC.VID
SCREENM  VID         3,393  11-12-99  1:14p SCREENM.VID
TTT      DOC         1,024  11-12-99  1:11p TTT.DOC
TEST     DOC         1,024  11-20-99  4:27p TEST.DOC
        13 file(s)      1,644,441 bytes

I seem to have three *.VID files but am not sure which one is used (G)

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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:51:18 -0500
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Great starter's kit:

2MB HPLX
infrared sync cable
Accton network card
20MB sandisk flash

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1307256512

shipping to US only.

If you win the auction, let me know you are on the hplx list, and I will
pay for shipping (even though it says that the buyer will pay for
shipping).

Thanks!

-alex

p.s. If you have questions reply to me directly, since I am on the list
digest mode.

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Is there any significant difference between these versions of 200 lx? The one I know, that there is no RAM doughter board = no connector for RAM upgrade in 1.02. Anything else?

Radek

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FW4 for $5, and shrink-wrapped!  Let me know what store, and if they had
any more ... I live in South Calif also <g>.

My LX installation is about 4.5mb, but includes the entire drivers disk
(every time you fiddle with the FW settings (sound, display, memory, etc)
you have to insert the drivers disk ... so I just added it as a directory
that I SUBST when I need it).  Losing the drivers directory will still
leave you with a 4mb installation.

FW will have to be installed on a desktop, and then the directories are
transferred to the LX.  Configure the display settings on the desktop to
mono graphics, so it'll be viewable on the LX while you tweak it there some
more.

I have mine set to these settings on my LX (6mb/2x, with 1mb EMS):

İHardware¨
- Screen driver = "monochrome/graphics"

İUse of memory¨
- Extended memory = On
- Extended memory driver = LIM 4.0
- Extended memory maximum size = 512
- Extended memory/roll-out drive = C
- Memory roll-out before DOS access = On

I don't use the LAN/Mail options.  I think FW preceded a lot of the normal
conventions used in email ... I could be wrong.  As I mentioned, it's a
great program, but my use of FW on the LX has been minimal due to the good
built-in apps.  The settings for EMS are fairly minimal ... ie, if I worked
with a lot of open FW documents, I'd probably need a bigger EMS allocation.

FW has a splash screen that waits for you to press Enter, and the keypress
can be automatically skipped by invoking FW with the "/t" option (not
documented ... at least not in FW1-3).

Because it needs lots of RAM, I start FW with Maxdos.

You'll notice that there's a lot of reference to navigating "in" and "out"
of frames using the keyboard, specifically with the "In" key (grey numeric
+) and "Out" key (grey numeric -).  On  the LX you substitute using Fn-2
and Fn-1, respectively.

Let me know (off list) if you need any more info.  And if you decide it's
not for you, I'll buy your copy <g>.

- Longden

> I was intrigued by your description of Framework IV, as well as the fact
> that you have it running on a 200LX.  Well, just today, I went to a used
> computer store I had not visited before, and there it was, a
shrink-wrapped
> copy of FW IV for $5!   So, I have it here now and have been going over
the
> documentation.  One question I have that does not seem to be addressed
is:
> how much disk space does FW IV take up?  I have a SanDisk 220mb ATA card
in
> my 200LX, so I'm not worried about running out of space, was just
wondering
> what to expect when I do install this.
>
> Martin G. Ramirez
>
> >The program is an old-style integrated package of applications, similar
in
> >concept to MS Works (word processor, spreadsheet, database, etc),
developed
> >by the makers of DBase (Ashton-Tate) ... specifically by Robert M. Carr.
> >It basically was another killer-app that met its match.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:52:23 -0500
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Fermilab! Wow, this list attracts some high caliber people. I'm happy
to see that the LX is in use in helping to understand the nature of
the universe. I like the name of your package offering. It would be
wasted on me as I have to remove my shoes just to count my change at
the gas station. I would suggest that you submit it to palmtop.net so
that it is available for posterity. In this day of 64 bit operating
systems, we have to make sure that all software for LX is always
available for future generations.

>
> Hi all,
>       I have some bits of software to share.  It is a
> collection of files
> from the HP-200LX which I've developed over the years; they
> are mostly but
> not entirely 1-2-3 spreadsheets for various numeric
> calculations. Here is
> what's included:
>

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Avi wrote:

> Start charging at 2.32 volts or less.

> > Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with
> > some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go
> > somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you
> > right on the edge. Not so good!

John replied:

> If a person keeps charging Ni-Cads before they are fully discharged
> he will ruin the batteries. Setting such a high voltage to recharge is
> just not very smart. If a person needs to charge sooner occaisionally he can
> simply go to setup in system manager and enable charging

I agree with Avi.  Starting charging at such a low voltage is running
right on the edge of when the batteries will be too low to power the
palmtop.  This will not leave much time to get to an AC adapter.  And
there is the risk of data loss if the palmtop shuts off because of low
batteries.  I think that is not smart.

Besides, the 2.32 volts you suggest as the point at which to start
charging is quite a bit higher that what would be considered fully
discharged for the NiCd or NiMH batteries.  I believe that .9 volts per
cell is considered to be discharged, that would make the pair voltage
at 1.8 volts to indicate fully discarged batteries.

And besides again, there are many people that do not believe that so
called "memory" effect of NiCd batteries is because of lack of full
discharges, but rather because of over charging. Most NiCd battery
chargers work on a simple timed cycle.  The charge time is set to the
amount of time it would take to fill empty batteries, so if partially
discharged batteries are put through this cycle, they will be over
charged.

With ABC on the palmtop, overcharging is will not happen because the
charge cycle is controlled by watching the battery voltage
characteristics rather than just time.  Also, the palmtop's 100 ma
charge rate is not enough to cause damage even if the batteries were
charged too long.

The bottom line for me is that my palmtop's data and convenience for me
is much more important than a pair of $10 batteries.  I don't want to
have to be bothered worrying about cutting down the life of my
batteries from 5 years to 3 because I replace them every two years
anyway.  And I don't need to worry about watching voltage, etc to know
when to manually charge the batteries - that is what ABC is for.


Stan

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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:41:21 -0700
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Unfortunately, Lanmarket.com no longer exists as a company. The source Keith
refered to is, I believe, connected with the party that put a number of
Accton cards on eBay in the last few months. I am waiting to receive one
from them myself.

Bob Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bergvill İmailto:hplx@BERGVILL.COM¨
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:03 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Fwd: Accton card


Hi

Amazing what you can find when you look around in the folders of
POST/LX :-)

This is a post from a year ago.. Maybe he still have some cards left or
maybe it is the same guy that we are talking about in the other
thread.

I think I bought from Lanmarket, but I am not sure.. No I do not think
so, but maybe they have some left.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway


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Date:         Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:20:18 -0700
From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Accton card test "results"

Somebody pointed the List to this dealer in a previous post, but I thought
it would be worthwhile posting it again. They used to sell the EN2216-1 card
for $15 (refurbished), but now it is $25 (refurbished, with dongle). This is
a good deal, since they want the same price for the dongle alone!


http://www.lanmarket.com/products/prodPreview.asp?VisID=20814221030IGAKG0011
29091425&Fam=EN2216%2D1

They also have some product literature in pdf format, and might be able to
provide tech support.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:12:26 +0100
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www.mochasoft.dk
has mochaPPP
connects Your hp200lx to Your PC Internetconnection via the serial port

Pavel ZAMPACH wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have 1) PC/Win95 connected to Internet via network and 2) (of course) =
HP200LX. I'd like to connect HP200LX to Internet using "hard-wired" PPP
> between HP and PC. I'm looking for some software working as "PPP =
server" on PC. Does anybody know something about it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pavel Zampach
> zampach@nemcb.cz
>

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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> i also intend to use word5.5 for dos in an 8-meg 200LX. i am aware that
the
> software has a large file (4 MB?) and not everything has to be loaded.
can
> anyone help me identify the files i should use (given that i will use
canon
> inkjet printers).
>
I run Word 5.5 on my unmodified 2 Mb 200LX with no problem. I can launch it
from an icon in the Applications Manager. The files in my a:/word55
directory are (in no real order):

WORD.EXE  738281
THES-AM.LEX    355065
MW.HLP         270360
SPELL-AM.LEX   184371
HYPH.DAT  24072
POSTSCRP.PRD   30911
EPSONFX.PRD    6744
HPLASER.PRD    6369
IBMPRO.PRD     1832
TTY.PRD        914
SCREEN.VID     16218
NORMAL.GLY     1024
NORMAL.STY     512
UPDAT-AM.CMP   15
MW.INI         288

This setup gives me full spellchecking, thesaurus and help functions. The
included *.PRD drivers don't take up much disk space, and let me print to
just about any printers.

If I terminate all built-in apps and launch Word from DOS, executing Mapmem
from within Word reports that Word is using 379,440 bytes of RAM.

If you want an icon for Word to use in the Applications Manager or in
X-Finder, go to the SUPER Icon Server at:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons and serch for WORD or MS.

HTH,
Bruce in Toronto

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> Thanks very much for the information on Word 5.5. I should be able to
> install the program this weekend.
>
Rene,

You're welcome! Feel free to post to the list if you experience any
difficulties.

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              kindof,Panasonic1000mAh,Ni-Cd?
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> I agree with Avi.  Starting charging at such a low voltage is running
> right on the edge of when the batteries will be too low to power the
> palmtop.  This will not leave much time to get to an AC adapter.  And
> there is the risk of data loss if the palmtop shuts off because of low
> batteries.  I think that is not smart.

I start charging at 2.32 volts all the time and have plenty of time.
Hours. I do regular backups to a flashcard anyway so unless the
flashcard goes along with the LX which just happened to someone my data
is safe. I even write to flashcards at >2.30 volts and have never had a
problem.

>
> Besides, the 2.32 volts you suggest as the point at which to start
> charging is quite a bit higher that what would be considered fully
> discharged for the NiCd or NiMH batteries.  I believe that .9 volts per
> cell is considered to be discharged, that would make the pair voltage
> at 1.8 volts to indicate fully discarged batteries.

Actually it is 1.1 volts

>
> And besides again, there are many people that do not believe that so
> called "memory" effect of NiCd batteries is because of lack of full
> discharges, but rather because of over charging. Most NiCd battery
> chargers work on a simple timed cycle.  The charge time is set to the
> amount of time it would take to fill empty batteries, so if partially
> discharged batteries are put through this cycle, they will be over
> charged.

It has nothing to do with memory effect it has to do with dendrite
build up.

>
> With ABC on the palmtop, overcharging is will not happen because the
> charge cycle is controlled by watching the battery voltage
> characteristics rather than just time.  Also, the palmtop's 100 ma
> charge rate is not enough to cause damage even if the batteries were
> charged too long.

At 1/10th C bateries can be overcharged. The orginal message said he
had 1000 mAh batteries. This may be a moot point anyway soon.

>
> The bottom line for me is that my palmtop's data and convenience for me
> is much more important than a pair of $10 batteries.  I don't want to
> have to be bothered worrying about cutting down the life of my
> batteries from 5 years to 3 because I replace them every two years
> anyway.  And I don't need to worry about watching voltage, etc to know
> when to manually charge the batteries - that is what ABC is for.

Nothing what I said constitutes any risk to a persons data. If a person
backs up their data anyway it is perfectly safe. I have never lost
data.

>
> Stan
>
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Shane,

here I am!!

Kind regards

Helmuth


> I lost the email for the person needing the WordPerfect v5.1 files.
> If he/she is still around, I have them now...  :-)
>
> Shane
>

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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> My LX installation is about 4.5mb,

Since the LX is B/W only I decided to load FW2 rather than FW4 which I
have as well. It sits on a PCMCIA

 Directory of A:\FW

.            <DIR>     07-11-00   1:12p
..           <DIR>     07-11-00   1:12p
BIBLIOTH FW2     19520 03-21-89  11:27a
COMPAQ   SC       1990 08-31-01   8:17p
COMPAQC  SC       1270 08-31-01   8:17p
CORONA   SC       5678 08-31-01   8:17p
E6       FW2     27504 03-05-86  12:00p
EGACOLOR SC       5499 08-31-01   8:18p
EGACTXT  SC       1599 08-31-01   8:18p
EGAMONO  SC       5186 08-31-01   8:18p
EGAMTXT  SC       1254 08-31-01   8:18p
FW       EXE    229253 05-29-86   2:40p
FW       OVL    155864 03-05-86  12:00p
FWSETUP          14431 09-01-01   4:27p
FWSETUP  OLD     16097 09-01-01   1:26p
HERCULES SC       5323 08-31-01   8:19p
I6       FW2     24832 03-05-86  12:00p
IBM3270  SC       5313 08-31-01   8:20p
IBMCOLOR SC       1990 08-31-01   8:20p
IBMCTXT  SC       1478 08-31-01   8:20p
IBMMONO  SC       1113 08-31-01   8:20p
M24_33   SC       5396 08-31-01   8:21p
SETUP    CMP     69260 03-05-86  12:00p
SETUP    EXE     91264 03-05-86  12:00p
STBCOLOR SC       2924 08-31-01   8:22p
STBMONO  SC       5343 08-31-01   8:22p
       26 file(s)     699381 bytes

I don't use it since PalEdit integrates so well and since I was unaware
of the +/- keycombo on the LX (until Longden told us).

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On 7 Dec 2001, at 21:59, HP Staber wrote:

> > My LX installation is about 4.5mb,
>
> Since the LX is B/W only I decided to load FW2 rather than FW4 which I
> have as well. It sits on a PCMCIA
>
>  Directory of A:\FW
>
.....
> STBMONO  SC       5343 08-31-01   8:22p
>        26 file(s)     699381 bytes

Yes, it grew a bit <g>.  BTW, I also included all of FW4's BitFonts
in my install.  A minimal install can be had, but the poster said he
had a 220mb card to work with.

> I don't use it since PalEdit integrates so well and since I was
> unaware of the +/- keycombo on the LX (until Longden told us).

Exactly, although I do well enough even without PalEdit.  OTOH,
try imbedding a live spreadsheet inside a PalEdit doc <g>.

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Hello group,

Is there anyone here that can help me out here? I have tried MT (mini =
telnet) and lxtelnet. lxtelnet is better, but I would like to be able to =
run 'mc' (remotely on a linux machine) and use the appropriate function =
keys in the vt100 mode. Has anyone already hacked through this? I =
finally found a client for my win2k box, but it is only acceptable not =
great. Now I am looking for one for the LX. How is the telnet client for =
WWW/LX?

Keith

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Hi Daniel,

see my comments below:

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> 1. I have logged in to my cell network provider E-Plus using the phone,
> so that if I use the down-key on the left side of the phone to view the
> phone status, I see: "GPRS: @WAP over GPRS". I can receive WAP data
> with the phone.

So our phone's setup seems to be o.k.

> 1a Answer question "connection still active - hold connection?" with
> "yes"

Better disconnect the connection. Else I he the sme behaviour.

> 2. Switch the IrDA interface on.
>
> 3. let WWW/LX connect using the patched WWW version and Martin's
> config.

I use a much simpler config; see below.

> Result: The process stops after the dial string has been sent to the
> phone and after a while, it aborts. :-(

As mentioned above, better start with no GPRS connection established.
Maybe the phone has problems to change from the internal WAP browser to
something external via IRDA.

> ==============
> WWW/LX 3.1c - Internet module for HP palmtop computers
> by A. Garzotto
> Last compilation: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:29:10 MET
> Supported options: SLIP PPP Ethernet IrDA Debugging
> Copyright (c), 1996 - 2001, D&A Software Inc., All rights reserved.
>
> Licensed to Daniel Hertrich.
>
> Connecting (???)...
>
> >>> Press CTRL to interrupt! <<<
>
> Initializing modem
> Dialing *99*0*1*1#
> GOT:
> *99*0*1*1#
> *** Aborting! Broken connection or timeout while waiting
>     for 'CONNECT'
> Exiting WWW/LX.
>
> ====================

I use the configuration in the phone (define 1 GPRS data account with
APN server etc. (you probably have it already defined). This account
has most probably Context Identifier CID=1 assigned. This CID number
corresponds to your last 1 in the dial string. All other parameters in
the dial string should be empty. so I use the following config in
www.cfg:

İGPRS_SC_IR¨
Magic=0
Port=-1
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=1
Baud=38400
My_IP=
DNS_IP=164.128.36.34    (could evtl. be empty, I am not sure)
DNS2_IP=164.128.76.39   (could evtl. be empty, I am not sure)
Script=CHAP_Script
Login=gprs
ModemInit=ATZ           (AT&F is also o.k.)
Dial=ATD*99***1#
Password=ty&)

With this configuration I never had problems.

Hope this brings you ahead / Josef

P.S. This mail is sent via the new Ericsson T68 mobile phone with GPRS.
This phone works more or less the same way as the T39 and has the same
features, but has no antenna pointing out and no flip cover. It also
has a very clear colour display. For navigating in the menus it has a
tiy joystick. Very nice phone!

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On Thu,  6 Dec 2001 18:29:18 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

İThis went to Daniel in private by mistake..¨

> Hi friends,

Hello there..

> I have just made my first real attempts to establish a GPRS connection
> over my T39m and the palmtop with WWW/LX.

And you did it all wrong I see :-)

> 1a Answer question "connection still active - hold connection?" with
> "yes"

Nono..leave the phone alone

> 2. Switch the IrDA interface on.

This is the only thing you have to do on the phone.

> 3. let WWW/LX connect using the patched WWW version and Martin's
> config.

You do as you would do if you want to connect throug irda, but with the
Gprs setup in the cfg.

> Result: The process stops after the dial string has been sent to the
> phone and after a while, it aborts. :-(

Does not suprise me :-)


> I have also used the second dial string Martin gave me, but to no
> avail.
>
> Martin, Tony, others: Do you have any idea what's going on here?

Do as you normally do when you connect throug irda, only difference is
that you need to use the special dialstring.

Good luck..I use gprs almost every day

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I hadn't paid much attention to connecting my 200LX to my cell phone before
now. but I just received a new phone (Nokia 3360) that has an infrared port.
It says it's IRDA so WWW/LX might work?  The book says it can also exchange
"business cards" with Palms and CE devices.  Anybody know about this phone
and its ability (or lack thereof) to connect to our palmtops?
Thanks,
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Sat,  8 Dec 2001 11:56:27 +1300 (NZDT)

35m08s ago ...
On Fri,  7 Dec 2001 23:21:19 +0100, Josef Meyer wrote:

> DNS_IP=164.128.36.34    (could evtl. be empty, I am not sure)
> DNS2_IP=164.128.76.39   (could evtl. be empty, I am not sure)

Hi Josef - here in New Zealand I now don't need these lines.
I did up until a week ago, when my T39 did not negotiate the
DNS part of the protocol properly, but I upgraded to "R2S"
software on the phone, and this is now fixed.

> Script=CHAP_Script
> Login=gprs
> ModemInit=ATZ           (AT&F is also o.k.)

Agree - I just have AT&F here

> Dial=ATD*99***1#

I have

Dial=*99#

and

DialAT=ATDT in the İGlobal¨ section, so I guess I use
effectively

Dial=ATDT*99#

I don't know what my "CID" is - I never had to touch the data
settings - but I see 2 pre-configured. "Vodafone WWW" which has
CID=1 and "Vodafone WAP" which has CID=2.

> P.S. This mail is sent via the new Ericsson T68 mobile phone
> with GPRS.  This phone works more or less the same way
> as the T39 and has the same features, but has no antenna
> pointing out and no flip cover. It also has a very clear
> colour display. For navigating in the menus it has a tiy
> joystick. Very nice phone!

Sounds nice! I must have a look at one when they become
available here. Did you consider the Nokia 8310?

Have you sent an SMS using GPRS? Apparently this is possible.
Here I think this type of usage of GPRS has a special pricing
plan - where data is charged byte by byte. For internet use I
have a plan that charges in units of 10K - my plan allows 25MB
a month for under the equivalent of 25 USD per month. They just
dropped the charges here by at least a factor of *ten* for me.
However - GPRS coverage is not as complete as regular GSM. It
is fine in "the city" but not at home - although this may be
phone dependant.

- Tony

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On Fri,  7 Dec 2001 15:40:42 -0700, Bob Penick wrote:

> I hadn't paid much attention to connecting my 200LX to my cell phone before
> now. but I just received a new phone (Nokia 3360) that has an infrared port.

Okey.. We have had the 3310 and the 3330 here in Europe for a while.
The 3330 has a built in wap browser, which means ofcourse it has a
internal "modem". But the 3330 does not have IRda. I see in the manual
for the 3360 that it has irda.

> It says it's IRDA so WWW/LX might work?

It should work as the other irda phones on the market.

>  The book says it can also exchange
> "business cards" with Palms and CE devices.

Yes you can beam a Vcard from your Hplx phonebook to your Nokia 3360.

Check out http://daniel.hplx.net

I wrote a little "How to" there on how to do this with a Irda phone
which supports Vcard/Buisnisscards.

>  Anybody know about this phone
> and its ability (or lack thereof) to connect to our palmtops?

Should work. You probably have to enable "data" on your subscription
though.

From the manual page 102: "You can make a serial connection between
your Nokia phone and your Infrared-equipped laptop or IR-equipped
desktop PC. Once you establish this connection, you can access your
phone's information from your PC, or use your phone as a wireless
modem"

To get irda to work for mail you need WWW/LX.

You should also check out http:///www.logomanager.co.uk and see if it
supports the 3360.

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sorry for the HTML. OOOPS!

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Does anyone know the best way to fix the latch and to
tighten the hinge on a 100LX/200LX?

Is there anyone out there who have actually tightened
the hinge or fixed the latch (when it no longer
clasps...like the spring is shot)?

Detailed descriptions or links to same would be
appreciated.  (I know about the site to disassemble
the palmtop, but I only want to go that route if it
would actually allow me to tighten the hinge and/or
fix the latch).  Less is better, simplest solution
with most professional result would be preferred.

Thanks in Advance.

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Hi gang.

        I am an avid 95lx user interested in moving up to a 200lx. I am
dirt-poor at the moment; however, I do run a Web/e-mail/FTP/shell hosting
provider and have done so for 3.5 years. We have a great uptime record and
have been compared favorably with the "big boys" in terms of speed and
reliability.

        Here is my offer: In exchange for a working 200LX, I will provide
LIFETIME (guaranteed for at least 3.5 years, (as long as my hosting
service has existed) or I will pay you the current going eBay price of a
200lx) Web, e-mail, FTP and shell hosting for you, your immediate family
and your business (if you run one), including free domain hosting.

        If you are interested, you can e-mail me at jessica@twu.net (I
initially subscribed that address to the list, then realized that it could
get spammy that way ;) So I created the address hplx@twu.net)

                                                        --Jessica

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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:01:41 -0700
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Here are a few programs that
are useable on the LX and read ascii files. There are many
more out there. Uli Allen sent me the "Morse" file. All the
others seem to be available on the Web somewhere. I think I
like "Morse" the best since it is just a command line Morse
code converter, converting an ascii file. CP222 is probably
the most versatile/best written.

I wouldn't mind getting back into assembly and write one
myself with specs from the original post. Haven't programmed
assembly for 10 years. Forgot about all I knew. 10 years
maybe I'll have it done. Don't see anything replacing my LX
yet.

                      Adj    Max Pgm
Program Control Teach on Fly WPM Size
------- ------- ----- ------ --- ----
CP222   Menu    Yes   Yes    50  30K
AutoCW  Kbk     Yes   No     40  78K
Make-CW Kbd     Yes   Yes    ?   55K
Mor21   Kbd/DOS Yes   No     25  47K
Morse   DOS     No    No     Hi  15K
MCT12   Kbd     Yes   No     25  36K

Control -- DOS means command line, Kbd means typing and/or
function keys.

Bob
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If you can stand the loose hinge, you may be less likely to
have the hinge crack problem. I've been using my LX for
about a year with a disintegrated hinge. In other words, the
screen flops. I support the lid with my E&B case. Anyway, no
hinge tension, no hinge crack! One of these days I may have
Thaddeus fix it.

Bob

Questor Jones wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the best way to fix the latch and to
> tighten the hinge on a 100LX/200LX?
>
> Is there anyone out there who have actually tightened
> the hinge or fixed the latch (when it no longer
> clasps...like the spring is shot)?
>
> Detailed descriptions or links to same would be
> appreciated.  (I know about the site to disassemble
> the palmtop, but I only want to go that route if it
> would actually allow me to tighten the hinge and/or
> fix the latch).  Less is better, simplest solution
> with most professional result would be preferred.
>
> Thanks in Advance.
>
> __________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:47:24 +0800
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Hi,

I was wondering if there are any programs on the 200LX that can
send and receive files to/from the Palm via IR?

I tried "beaming" a text file from the Palm to the 200LX that is
running terminal emulator with IR on and I received garbage
despite trying various speeds.  Everything appeared on the
first line.

Thanks,
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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:09:40 +0200
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Hi friends,

last chance to bid on my backup palmtop: End in 35 min, corrently at
156 EURO.
Ebay no 1303394605

shipping to Europe only.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:55:51 +0200
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Hi Questor

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:08:21 -0800, Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone know the best way to fix the latch and to
> tighten the hinge on a 100LX/200LX?

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:33:01 +0100
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Hi,

This message I also write it in Spanish so that more people understand it
worldwide.

<<(İEnglish¨)>>

My palmtop shows a strange behavior (I buy this of second hand).
In fact, to their anterior owner once happened you the following: The HPLX
didn't poweron. New alkaline batteries and loaded NiCad, Push ON and doesn't
power on, does nothing. He left more than a week without touching it (he
don't remember if with batteries or not) and when goes to push ON operated
(Initializing drive C: but it work) and it didn't make it again.

Yesterday I leave my desktop and the HP transferring (serial cable) files
toward a Memorex CF of 64Mb (newly acquired and just formatted) and when I
returned, I found the desktop in rest (but the TransfileWin200 didn't show
error of communications) and the HP its OFF. I thought that I drained the
piles (when I transfer many data I disable LigthSleep of the HP so that it
don't go off in middle of transfer) but I put you another loaded NiMh and it
din't work. I have left all the night without batteries (neither backup
battery), I have attempted it just but nothing.

I don't know that make. I don't want to have the HP a week out so that it
operate. It's necessary me. Also, and if it then follow without operating??
Am I desperate!!


<<(İEspaqol¨)>>

Mi palmtop muestra un comportamiento extraqo (lo consequm de segunda mano).
De hecho, a su anterior dueqo una vez le sucedis lo siguiente: El HPLX no se
encendma. Pilas alkalinas nuevas y NiCad cargadas, pulsa ON y no se enciende
ni nada. Lo dejs mas de una semana sin tocarlo (no recuerda si con las pilas
puestas o no) y cuando fui a encenderlo funcions (Inicializando C: pero
funcions) y no volvis a hacerlo.

Ayer yo deje mi sobremesa y el HP transfiriendo via serie archivos hacia una
Memorex CF de 64Mb (recien adquirida y recien formateada) y cuando volvm,
encontri el sobremesa en reposo (pero el TransfileWin200 no mostrs error de
comunicaciones) y el HP apagado. Pensi que agoti las pilas (cuando
transfiero muchos datos desabilito el LigthSleep del HP para que no se
apague a medias) pero le puse otras y no se enciende... Lo he dejado toda la
noche sin pilas (ni backup), lo acabo de intentar pero nada...

No si que hacer. No quisiera tener el HP una semana apagado para que
funcione.  Me hace falta. Ademas, y si luego sigue sin funcionar?? Estoy
desesperado.





Thanks
J. Belmonte

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:42:45 +0100
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----- Original Message -----
From: J. Belmonte <jbmbhs@eresmas.com>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:33 PM
Subject: Dead Palmtop!?


> Hi,
>
> This message I also write it in Spanish so that more people understand it
> worldwide.
>
> <<(İEnglish¨)>>
>
> My palmtop shows a strange behavior (I buy this of second hand).
> In fact, to their anterior owner once happened you the following: The HPLX
> didn't poweron. New alkaline batteries and loaded NiCad, Push ON and
doesn't
> power on, does nothing. He left more than a week without touching it (he
> don't remember if with batteries or not) and when goes to push ON operated
> (Initializing drive C: but it work) and it didn't make it again.
>
> Yesterday I leave my desktop and the HP transferring (serial cable) files
> toward a Memorex CF of 64Mb (newly acquired and just formatted) and when I
> returned, I found the desktop in rest (but the TransfileWin200 didn't show
> error of communications) and the HP its OFF. I thought that I drained the
> piles (when I transfer many data I disable LigthSleep of the HP so that it
> don't go off in middle of transfer) but I put you another loaded NiMh and
it
> din't work. I have left all the night without batteries (neither backup
> battery), I have attempted it just but nothing.
>
> I don't know that make. I don't want to have the HP a week out so that it
> operate. It's necessary me. Also, and if it then follow without
operating??
> Am I desperate!!
>
>
> <<(İEspaqol¨)>>
>
> Mi palmtop muestra un comportamiento extraqo (lo consequm de segunda
mano).
> De hecho, a su anterior dueqo una vez le sucedis lo siguiente: El HPLX no
se
> encendma. Pilas alkalinas nuevas y NiCad cargadas, pulsa ON y no se
enciende
> ni nada. Lo dejs mas de una semana sin tocarlo (no recuerda si con las
pilas
> puestas o no) y cuando fui a encenderlo funcions (Inicializando C: pero
> funcions) y no volvis a hacerlo.
>
> Ayer yo deje mi sobremesa y el HP transfiriendo via serie archivos hacia
una
> Memorex CF de 64Mb (recien adquirida y recien formateada) y cuando volvm,
> encontri el sobremesa en reposo (pero el TransfileWin200 no mostrs error
de
> comunicaciones) y el HP apagado. Pensi que agoti las pilas (cuando
> transfiero muchos datos desabilito el LigthSleep del HP para que no se
> apague a medias) pero le puse otras y no se enciende... Lo he dejado toda
la
> noche sin pilas (ni backup), lo acabo de intentar pero nada...
>
> No si que hacer. No quisiera tener el HP una semana apagado para que
> funcione.  Me hace falta. Ademas, y si luego sigue sin funcionar?? Estoy
> desesperado.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
> J. Belmonte
>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:47:29 +0100
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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> > I don't use it since PalEdit integrates so well and since I was
> > unaware of the +/- keycombo on the LX (until Longden told us).
>
> Exactly, although I do well enough even without PalEdit.  OTOH,
> try imbedding a live spreadsheet inside a PalEdit doc <g>.

No problem exporting a 123 worksheet into an ASCII file and importing
it into PalEdit.

Check out your *.FW? file sizes and compare them to ASCII files :) After all
the constraint on the palmtop is memory.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Have a Pegasus III pocket modem that has an IR port so I am trying to
use it with WWW/Lx. When you hit F5 it tries and fails. System shows:

Connecting (???)
Talking to Legasic Chip-H      Then after a few seconds:
IrDA connection lost

Can get this msg up to 4 feet away. The fact that it seems to recognize
the modem, even if only momentarily, seems positive. Anyone have any
idea re what to try next? Is this a lost cause, or is it a matter of
finding a AT command combo that will make it work? The modem box has
the following on it: "INFRARED SPECIFICATIONS Compliant to the IrDA 1.0
Standard for serial infrared (SIR) data communication. Supporting IrDA
speeds up to 115.2 kbit/s. Link distance 1 cm to 1m at +/- 15 degree
angle" No manual, just two photocopied pages of how to connect with a
Palm or PocketPC machines.
Suggestions on what to do next welcome. If I'm wasting my time pls. let
me know.
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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:11:52 +0100
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Tony Hutchins wrote:

> > DNS_IP=164.128.36.34    (could evtl. be empty, I am not sure)
> > DNS2_IP=164.128.76.39   (could evtl. be empty, I am not sure)
>
> Hi Josef - here in New Zealand I now don't need these lines.
> I did up until a week ago, when my T39 did not negotiate the
> DNS part of the protocol properly, but I upgraded to "R2S"
> software on the phone, and this is now fixed.

Tony, you are definitely right. DNS and DNS2 IP-addresses are provided
by the network, so these 2 lines can be omitted.

> > Dial=ATD*99***1#
>
> I have
>
> Dial=*99#
>
> and
>
> DialAT=ATDT in the İGlobal¨ section, so I guess I use
> effectively
>
> Dial=ATDT*99#

Could be the same (making use of default values)

> I don't know what my "CID" is - I never had to touch the data
> settings - but I see 2 pre-configured. "Vodafone WWW" which has
> CID=1 and "Vodafone WAP" which has CID=2.

On Daniel Hertrich's famous webpage there is also a .pdf document
describing the AT commands for T39m. There is a special ATDT command
for GPRS calls, where the different parameters are explained (well, not
very understandable). So the "1" in ATDT*99***1# is the "pdp context",
and a colleague of mine, who introduced the GPRS network equipment at
Swisscom (biggest mobile operator in Switzerland), told me, that this
parameter refers to the context identifier (CID) of the data account
defined in the phone. So the default is probably 1 and your "Vodafone
WWW" with CID=1 is chosen.

>
> > P.S. This mail is sent via the new Ericsson T68 mobile phone
> > with GPRS.  This phone works more or less the same way
> > as the T39 and has the same features, but has no antenna
> > pointing out and no flip cover. It also has a very clear
> > colour display. For navigating in the menus it has a tiy
> > joystick. Very nice phone!
>
> Sounds nice! I must have a look at one when they become
> available here. Did you consider the Nokia 8310?

No. I think the Ericsson phones R520m, T39m and T68 are currently world
leaders from point of view of functionality. With the T68 you get now a
"Nokia" design with Ericsson functionality.

> Have you sent an SMS using GPRS? Apparently this is possible.

No. Don't know if this is possible with Swisscom.

> Here I think this type of usage of GPRS has a special pricing
> plan - where data is charged byte by byte. For internet use I
> have a plan that charges in units of 10K - my plan allows 25MB
> a month for under the equivalent of 25 USD per month. They just
> dropped the charges here by at least a factor of *ten* for me.

That's a very good price. The Swisscom prices are not yet fixed. Here
they have the network ready, but are still in a trial phase (I have a
free field trial subscription).

> However - GPRS coverage is not as complete as regular GSM. It
> is fine in "the city" but not at home - although this may be
> phone dependent.

Swisscom's GPRS coverage is the same as GSM: ca. 98% of Switzerland! I
don't no why they are not operative yet. Officially they say, that the
GPRS terminals are not yet mature enough (mainly Nokia).

Regards / Josef

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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:29:15 +0200
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Pavel ZAMPACH writes:
> I have 1) PC/Win95 connected to Internet via network and 2) (of course) HP200LX. I'd like to connect HP200LX to Internet using "hard-wired" PPP between HP and PC. I'm looking for some software working as "PPP server" on PC. Does anybody know something about it?
>

You didnt say how you are connecting your LX to your PC. If you want to use
your serial cable and one of the LX internet options, then there is a program
called MochaSoft PPP which can be found at (IIRC):

wwww.mochasoft.dk

The web page says that the software is for a Palm and WinCE but it alsoo works
well with an HPLX.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:57:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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On Fri,  7 Dec 2001 23:20:31 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

Hi Jessica

>         If you are interested, you can e-mail me at jessica@twu.net (I
> initially subscribed that address to the list, then realized that it could
> get spammy that way ;) So I created the address hplx@twu.net)
>

Sorry I can not help you with a Hplx. Just a comment about the spam.. I
have also had to resubscribe with another emailadress. From time to I now get some
"good" offers from


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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 09:57:53 -0800 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote:

Ahh. I did not finish :-)

> Sorry I can not help you with a Hplx. Just a comment about the spam.. I
> have also had to resubscribe with another emailadress. From time to I now get some
> "good" offers from..

the rest:

..a lot of naked girls on the internet. I am pretty sure that their mamas
does not know what they do for a living. :-)

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:42:08 +0100
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I'm sorry. But I don't think why I lost ''n with ~'' and some other 8 bit
chars. It's why I posted TWO times.

I have tried with & without backup battery and with new one.

Sorry Again

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:13:43 -0500
Reply-To:     Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Why don't you just pick up a 100LX ?,  it is comparable to a 200LX in almost
every way that matters and is a heck of alot cheaper.

And it's the really cool black color.....Ooooooo, wow....


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From: "Jessica Blank" <hplx@TWU.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 12:20 AM
Subject: WANT: 200LX (working) for lifetime Web/e-mail/FTP hosting


> Hi gang.
>
>         I am an avid 95lx user interested in moving up to a 200lx. I am
> dirt-poor at the moment; however, I do run a Web/e-mail/FTP/shell hosting
> provider and have done so for 3.5 years. We have a great uptime record and
> have been compared favorably with the "big boys" in terms of speed and
> reliability.
>
>         Here is my offer: In exchange for a working 200LX, I will provide
> LIFETIME (guaranteed for at least 3.5 years, (as long as my hosting
> service has existed) or I will pay you the current going eBay price of a
> 200lx) Web, e-mail, FTP and shell hosting for you, your immediate family
> and your business (if you run one), including free domain hosting.
>
>         If you are interested, you can e-mail me at jessica@twu.net (I
> initially subscribed that address to the list, then realized that it could
> get spammy that way ;) So I created the address hplx@twu.net)
>
>                                                         --Jessica
>
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Hi Suresh

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:04:02 -0500, Suresh Nirody <esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Have a Pegasus III pocket modem that has an IR port so I am trying to
> use it with WWW/Lx. When you hit F5 it tries and fails. System shows:

Zou probably have
Port=-1

in your www.cfg.

You write something about SIR:

> the following on it: "INFRARED SPECIFICATIONS Compliant to the IrDA 1.0
> Standard for serial infrared (SIR) data communication. Supporting IrDA
> speeds up to 115.2 kbit/s. Link distance 1 cm to 1m at +/- 15 degree

Actually this should work for IrDA 1.0, but I would try

Port=1
IR=1

This (AFAIK) makes WWW/LX speak the normal SIR protocol over the IR
port and leaves alone all the IrDA stuff. It is like connecting both
devices with a cable, only physically you use the IR interface.

Please report if this has some effect.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:04:08 +0200
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Hi Martin

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:11:08 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:

> > "good" offers from..
>
> the rest:
>
> ..a lot of naked girls on the internet. I am pretty sure that their mamas
> does not know what they do for a living. :-)

Do you think they ar always naked or only when they send you emails? ;-)

GTX
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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:04:09 +0200
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Hi Juan

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:42:08 +0100, "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@ERESMAS.COM> wrote:

> I'm sorry. But I don't think why I lost ''n with ~'' and some other 8 bit
> chars. It's why I posted TWO times.
>
> I have tried with & without backup battery and with new one.

I don't think that taking out the backup battery makes any difference
in the behaviour of 8 bit characters.
;-)

Well, seriously:
Actually the only thing I can recommend _is_ to take out all batteries
for a while, pressing the ON key to discharge internal capacitors and
let it lie around for one day.

I assume you don't want to try with an always connected AC adapter?
That could clarify if the failure might be a loose battery contact.

This is unfortunately the kind of failure which is extremely hard to
locate and to solve.

GTX
daniel

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From:         Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
Subject:      Re: WANT: 200LX (working) for lifetime Web/e-mail/FTP hosting
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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My mail wasn't a spam. :) I'm a girl, but I'm not naked, and I'm genuinely
dirt-poor. Otherwise I'd buy a 200LX instead of bartering for it.

                                                        --Jessica
        (who is a real person too, see http://www.jessica.org/pix/id.jpg)

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 09:57:53 -0800 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> Ahh. I did not finish :-)
>
> > Sorry I can not help you with a Hplx. Just a comment about the spam.. I
> > have also had to resubscribe with another emailadress. From time to I now get some
> > "good" offers from..
>
> the rest:
>
> ..a lot of naked girls on the internet. I am pretty sure that their mamas
> does not know what they do for a living. :-)
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
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>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:07:56 -0600
Reply-To:     hplx@TWU.NET
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From:         Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
Subject:      Re: WANT: 200LX (working) for lifetime Web/e-mail/FTP hosting
Comments: To: Tralornik <Tralornik@worldnet.att.net>
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Well, mostly because I don't have that much money to spare either. Else
I'd save up and buy a 200LX anyhow. :>

I'm out of work. TWU is externally funded so I can keep running it. But I
myself am out of work.

Oh well...

Incidentally, expect a surprise release of some very useful former
commercialware from me... legally! I won't say what it is until I am ready
to share the URL with the group.. but it is something biiiig.. :> I will
make it my Christmas present to the community, hee!

                                                        --Jessica

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Tralornik wrote:

> Why don't you just pick up a 100LX ?,  it is comparable to a 200LX in almost
> every way that matters and is a heck of alot cheaper.
>
> And it's the really cool black color.....Ooooooo, wow....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jessica Blank" <hplx@TWU.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 12:20 AM
> Subject: WANT: 200LX (working) for lifetime Web/e-mail/FTP hosting
>
>
> > Hi gang.
> >
> >         I am an avid 95lx user interested in moving up to a 200lx. I am
> > dirt-poor at the moment; however, I do run a Web/e-mail/FTP/shell hosting
> > provider and have done so for 3.5 years. We have a great uptime record and
> > have been compared favorably with the "big boys" in terms of speed and
> > reliability.
> >
> >         Here is my offer: In exchange for a working 200LX, I will provide
> > LIFETIME (guaranteed for at least 3.5 years, (as long as my hosting
> > service has existed) or I will pay you the current going eBay price of a
> > 200lx) Web, e-mail, FTP and shell hosting for you, your immediate family
> > and your business (if you run one), including free domain hosting.
> >
> >         If you are interested, you can e-mail me at jessica@twu.net (I
> > initially subscribed that address to the list, then realized that it could
> > get spammy that way ;) So I created the address hplx@twu.net)
> >
> >                                                         --Jessica
> >
> > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
> >
>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:16:44 +0200
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Ethernet PCMCIA card and light sleep / poweroff
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Hi friends,

my palmtop doesn't seem to power off after the default 3 minutes
timeout everytime my Accton EN2216-1 Ethnet card is in the PCMCIA slot.

Is this normal?

Can that be changed?

Is even light sleep mode disabled when the Accton is in the slot, or is
it only the  poweroff which is deactivated?

Thanks
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:30:50 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Jessica

nice to see you here on the list!

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:07:56 -0600, Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET> wrote:

> Incidentally, expect a surprise release of some very useful former
> commercialware from me... legally! I won't say what it is until I am ready
> to share the URL with the group.. but it is something biiiig.. :> I will
> make it my Christmas present to the community, hee!

Windows? ;-)

I am curious!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:36:34 +0200
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

Is there any program which does not only measure the battery voltage
and returns one specific errorlevel if the battery voltage doesn't
reach a certain limit given at the command line, but which also detects
if AC is connected and gives another certain errorlevel back then?

Background is that I want to automatize my nightly backup even more
since I have a 32MB palmtop now. If battery voltage is not sufficient
and AC is not connected, do no backup at all.
If battery voltage is good, backup only the small RAM drive and some
_dat contents of the 32MB drive, and if AC is connected, backup the
entire 32MB RAM drive.

Thanks
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:42:15 -0600
Reply-To:     hplx@TWU.NET
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From:         Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
Subject:      Re: WANT: 200LX (working) for lifetime Web/e-mail/FTP hosting
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2001120817301962@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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No, (un/)fortunately it is not Windows. I think it will be a cold day in
hell when that gets released as freeware!

Nooo.. it's a surprise. It's something many of you likely have installed
on your LX, or did at one point :)

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Jessica
>
> nice to see you here on the list!
>
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:07:56 -0600, Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET> wrote:
>
> > Incidentally, expect a surprise release of some very useful former
> > commercialware from me... legally! I won't say what it is until I am ready
> > to share the URL with the group.. but it is something biiiig.. :> I will
> > make it my Christmas present to the community, hee!
>
> Windows? ;-)
>
> I am curious!
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
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>
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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:40:03 +0100
Reply-To:     "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@eresmas.com>
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From:         "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@ERESMAS.COM>
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Hi Daniel

> I don't think that taking out the backup battery makes any difference
> in the behaviour of 8 bit characters.
XD
Obviously, I wanted to add to my previous post (about dead palmtop, not the
other) I tried it with and without the battery.
OT: Whats matter with 8bit chars?? The soft of the mail-list server cut down
to 7bit ascii??

> Well, seriously:
Ok, I'm also.

> Actually the only thing I can recommend _is_ to take out all batteries
> for a while, pressing the ON key to discharge internal capacitors and
> let it lie around for one day.
Ok, I will do this.

> I assume you don't want to try with an always connected AC adapter?
> That could clarify if the failure might be a loose battery contact.
?? Can you explain this??

I tried with an AC adaptor but same behaviour (not change).

> This is unfortunately the kind of failure which is extremely hard to
> locate and to solve.


Thnks
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Date:         Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:06:01 +0200
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Hi friends

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:36:34 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Is there any program which does not only measure the battery voltage
> and returns one specific errorlevel if the battery voltage doesn't
> reach a certain limit given at the command line, but which also detects
> if AC is connected and gives another certain errorlevel back then?

I have found a "quick-and-dirty" solution:
voltchck gives errorlevel 0 if AC connected OR voltage above given
level, 1 if voltage under given level.

So I check first for a level which can never be reached:

voltchck 4.00

so I get only errorlevel 0 if AC is connected, because the batteries
cannot have 4 Volts.

Then I do everything which requires AC.

Then I do
voltchck 2.40
and let that decide if I do the battery sensitive things.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF: Re: WANT: 200LX (working) for lifetime Web/e-mail/FTP
              hosting
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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 16:07:56 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> Well, mostly because I don't have that much money to spare either. Else
> I'd save up and buy a 200LX anyhow. :>

I have a Hplx at Thaddeus right now which gets a 32mb DS upgrade right
now. I can ofcourse not afford it, but I need it. The Hplx is my
"tool" that makes me do my work. Without it I am lost.

> I'm out of work. TWU is externally funded so I can keep running it. But I
> myself am out of work.

Hope that situation changes for you soon.

> Oh well...
>
> Incidentally, expect a surprise release of some very useful former
> commercialware from me... legally! I won't say what it is until I am ready
> to share the URL with the group.. but it is something biiiig.. :> I will
> make it my Christmas present to the community, hee!
>
                                                        --Jessica

D&A Software have released a lot of christmasgifts for us lately..and
now you?..things are really picking up here :-)

Looking forward to this :-)

(Subject changed to FLUFF:)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:28 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 23:16:44 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,

Hello there..

> my palmtop doesn't seem to power off after the default 3 minutes
> timeout everytime my Accton EN2216-1 Ethnet card is in the PCMCIA slot.

Arg..I have never thought that this could maybe be the case.

> Is this normal?

Not sure, but i have had problems with this from time to time. I have
to boot the Hplx to get it back to normal. I have never thought of the
possability that it was the ethernetcard that messed up things.

> Can that be changed?

Well not a big problem. You just have to boot. But if you forget your
Hplx on it can mess up things..

> Is even light sleep mode disabled when the Accton is in the slot, or is
> it only the  poweroff which is deactivated?

Do not know..I use a Accton every day..

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 10:09:40 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> last chance to bid on my backup palmtop: End in 35 min, corrently at
> 156 EURO.
> Ebay no 1303394605
>
> shipping to Europe only.

Can I ask you why you sell off your backup Hplx?

I now have a backup 1mb Hplx for the 8mb I use now. I will soon get a
32mb DS, but I need backups because the Hplx has my life.. I will never
sell them..

What's your story? :-)

BTW did yu get GPRS working? I sent my message privatly first by
mistake.

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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              hosting
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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 21:04:08 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Martin
>
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:11:08 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:
>
> > > "good" offers from..
> >
> > the rest:
> >
> > ..a lot of naked girls on the internet. I am pretty sure that their mamas
> > does not know what they do for a living. :-)
>
> Do you think they ar always naked or only when they send you emails? ;-)

I like to think so :-)

No it is is a problem with all the spam.. But you know that. I enjoy a
naked girl as much as the next guy, but I do not want spam in my inbox.

(Subject changed.)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:36 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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              hosting
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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 16:42:15 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> No, (un/)fortunately it is not Windows. I think it will be a cold day in
> hell when that gets released as freeware!

AFAICare Windows _is_ freeware because I have paid for it through the
many hours I have used to get it to work. (Dos 5.0 on the Hplx is the
most stable OS I have worked on, verything else is not trusted)

> Nooo.. it's a surprise. It's something many of you likely have installed
> on your LX, or did at one point :)

Whoho..looking forward to this. :-)

(Subject changed)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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On Sat,  8 Dec 2001 15:57:43 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> My mail wasn't a spam. :)

No it was not..

> I'm a girl,

Nice..:-)..Have not seen you around here before..

> but I'm not naked,

Oh yes you are we all are..:-)

> and I'm genuinely
> dirt-poor. Otherwise I'd buy a 200LX instead of bartering for it.

I would not say that I am dirt-poor, but I got to much toys that cost
me money. The Hplx is _not_ a toy tough, but it has costed me a lot of
money..but I look at it as an investment. It will hopefully result in
"upgrade" at work=more money=faster toys :-)

>                                                       --Jessica
>         (who is a real person too, see http://www.jessica.org/pix/id.jpg)

I will have a look..only Jessica I know is Jessica Rabbit :-)

Please write your reply below the message and also reply to the list
only. Thanks

I have changed the subject to FLUFF: (that's what we have to do when we
talk about other things than the Hplx:-)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:02:05 -0800
Reply-To:     Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>
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From:         Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Morse Code Programs - Enable sound?
Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Hi, I tried CP222 and Morse on my 2M non-speed-upgrade 200LX and could not
get sound to come out of them. ( I tried them on a dos box under W98se and
CP222 worked great, but Morse couldn't figure out the speed of my CPU
running W98se - 200 MHz Pentium - so it gave up. )

I checked the alarms on the 200LX, and sure enough sound came out, so
the speaker is working.

Is there something I need to do to enable the sound when using DOS?

Thanks -Mike


On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Robert K. Meyer wrote:

> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:01:41 -0700
> From: Robert K. Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Morse Code Programs
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions. Here are a few programs that
> are useable on the LX and read ascii files. There are many
> more out there. Uli Allen sent me the "Morse" file. All the
> others seem to be available on the Web somewhere. I think I
> like "Morse" the best since it is just a command line Morse
> code converter, converting an ascii file. CP222 is probably
> the most versatile/best written.
>
> I wouldn't mind getting back into assembly and write one
> myself with specs from the original post. Haven't programmed
> assembly for 10 years. Forgot about all I knew. 10 years
> maybe I'll have it done. Don't see anything replacing my LX
> yet.
>
>                       Adj    Max Pgm
> Program Control Teach on Fly WPM Size
> ------- ------- ----- ------ --- ----
> CP222   Menu    Yes   Yes    50  30K
> AutoCW  Kbk     Yes   No     40  78K
> Make-CW Kbd     Yes   Yes    ?   55K
> Mor21   Kbd/DOS Yes   No     25  47K
> Morse   DOS     No    No     Hi  15K
> MCT12   Kbd     Yes   No     25  36K
>
> Control -- DOS means command line, Kbd means typing and/or
> function keys.
>
> Bob
> --
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> http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   The stone... Psa 118:22

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Date:         Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:46:03 -0800
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From:         Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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> > Exactly, although I do well enough even without PalEdit.  OTOH, try
> > imbedding a live spreadsheet inside a PalEdit doc <g>.
>
> No problem exporting a 123 worksheet into an ASCII file and importing
> it into PalEdit.

That's called a "deadsheet" <g>.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:06:30 +0200
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Hi Juan

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:40:03 +0100, "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@ERESMAS.COM> wrote:

> Obviously, I wanted to add to my previous post (about dead palmtop, not the
> other) I tried it with and without the battery.
> OT: Whats matter with 8bit chars?? The soft of the mail-list server cut down
> to 7bit ascii??

I don't know. Here are a few German 8-bits (ae, oe, ue, ss): d v | _
Letss see what they are converted to.

> I tried with an AC adaptor but same behaviour (not change).

Ah, okay. So it is NOT a loose battery contact.
Please report if the battery removing helped. If not, we have to find
other wys to find the reason at least.

GTX
daniel

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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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hallo Daniel,

thank you for the question _and_ the answer. I did as you told us,
and it works....
important for DOS ignorants as me:
if errorlevel 1 goto Batt has to be before errorlevel 0...

but now it works great.

cheers,
Werner


On 9 Dec 2001 at 0:06, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends
>
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:36:34 +0200, Daniel Hertrich
> <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>
> > Is there any program which does not only measure the battery voltage
> > and returns one specific errorlevel if the battery voltage doesn't
> > reach a certain limit given at the command line, but which also
> > detects if AC is connected and gives another certain errorlevel back
> > then?
>
> I have found a "quick-and-dirty" solution:
> voltchck gives errorlevel 0 if AC connected OR voltage above given
> level, 1 if voltage under given level.
>
> So I check first for a level which can never be reached:
>
> voltchck 4.00
>
> so I get only errorlevel 0 if AC is connected, because the batteries
> cannot have 4 Volts.
>
> Then I do everything which requires AC.
>
> Then I do
> voltchck 2.40
> and let that decide if I do the battery sensitive things.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Does anyone know of a Chat program that uses the Infrared Port on the LX to
allow to LX users to send messages back and forth?

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Can someone tell me how to install the HP connectivity pack to Windows NT
and Windows 95?

Thanks.

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Mike Cheponis wrote:
> Hi, I tried CP222 and Morse on my 2M non-speed-upgrade 200LX and could not
> get sound to come out of them. ( I tried them on a dos box under W98se and
> CP222 worked great, but Morse couldn't figure out the speed of my CPU
> running W98se - 200 MHz Pentium - so it gave up. )
>
> I checked the alarms on the 200LX, and sure enough sound came out, so
> the speaker is working.
>
> Is there something I need to do to enable the sound when using DOS?

From DOS type ECHO ¬G  ...that's a Ctrl-G, and press ENTER.
You should hear a beep which means the speaker works Ok in DOS
which also means no sound is the morse programs fault.

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On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:06:30 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> I don't know. Here are a few German 8-bits (ae, oe, ue, ss): d v | _
> Letss see what they are converted to.

...oh well...

I have looked them up in an ASCII table (the LXPRO F3 ASCII table), but
couldn't find any pattern (no simple ASCII value offset due to a lost
bit).

Does anyone know how these special characters are handled?

GTX
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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> > No problem exporting a 123 worksheet into an ASCII file and importing
> > it into PalEdit.
>
> That's called a "deadsheet" <g>.

In the vast majority of cases a dead sheet is sufficient :)

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Hi Eric

On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:10:31 -0500, Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a Chat program that uses the Infrared Port on the LX to
> allow to LX users to send messages back and forth?

The built-in datacomm.

You can use any terminal emulation for that. Just set it to use COM1
and configure COM1 with serctl /i (so it uses the IR interface).

GTX
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Hi Martin, Guenther, and all who asked and will ask why I sold my bachup
LX:

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:14:30 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:

> Can I ask you why you sell off your backup Hplx?
>
> What's your story? :-)

Let's be honest: The 200LX is outdated and obsolete.
It is slow, has too little RAM, a too little screen, only balck and
white, no multitasking OS....

Well, I really have to get rid of these obsolete devices.
I recently bought a Jornada 720 and this machine is really the best I
have ever seen:

Backlight, which finally makes the battery die sooner

heavier and bigger, so you finally have the impression to have a real
"working horse" in your hands

Windows: finally everything becomes possible which is already possible
on the desktop: Fancy error messages, much fun with frequent rebooting,

Multimedia: I can now play MP3s on the road! Very important if I am on
the way to work (which is abt. 5 min per pedes) or to univiersity.
The best: The batteries are empty if I arrive, so I cannot play with
the palmtop there which steals time anyway.

And last but not least: Everytime I talk to someone by telephone, I
have to scribble some drawings onto paper. now it's possible to
scribble into the palmtop with the stylus and to save my artworks!
One of them has been made available to all of you by Steafn Peichl. It
is called "carpet.com" and I think you can download it on Stefan's
homepage.

;-)

The real reason is: I have just bought a used 32MB DS palmtop (my
first one with such a big upgrade! :-) ) and I have several backup
machines. I could simply not afford buying such an expensive device
without giving away another one to get a little bit of money for that
one. Just for the balance in my finances.

I still have 2 200LXs DS 5/6MB and 1 100LX SS 1MB as spare units.

GTX
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Hi,

There use to a web site with instructions on how todo this, but I'm
unable to locate it. Anybody remember the URL?


Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:
(12/09/2001 07:41)

>Can someone tell me how to install the HP connectivity pack to Windows NT
>and Windows 95?
>
>Thanks.
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Date:         Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:54:32 +0100
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Most of my connections  are aborted with a "Network time
out"message. Does someone have a clue what
exactly this means, and if something could be done about it?

My mail program on the 200LX is Goin'POstal, and I can collect
(or send) most messages without trouble as long as as they do
not exceed 2 or 3KB.

If they are bigger, it often fails, with a network time-out
message.

The progress of downloading (or sending) a message  typically
goes from 0%, to any value, stands still at say 30%, flashes
through till 80%,
seems to stop and times out. (Or times out at 20%, or whatever)

I don't think it has anything to do with the GSM network, as the
same thing seems to happen, day or night, and collecting
messages may fail from the first POP server, and proceed OK with
the second, all within the same call.

My init string is AT&F, and I tried an alternative, without
success.

My setup is typically  a DS200lx, with Goin'POstal, an Ericsson
DC23 modem and a GH388.; but I have tried POST/Lx with a SAgem
phone with built-in modem, and a cable(no IR).  I have never
experienced this problem with a land line. I have also tried
different ISP's, with identical results.

Irritating and expensive, when I try to send pics home!  Anyone
can give me a hint?

TIA

Etienne

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Another POSTLX question.

I would like to set up POSTLX so that it wakes up
at 6am to download mail and news, as if the
F5 key had been pressed.

Is there a way to do this?

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>From:    Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>


Jessica,

Contact me off line! I have several 100lx's that I have parted out. Let me
know your needs, and perhaps I can put something together.

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Well,

I tried nodelay with my DS 6mb 200lx and a 5mb HP flash card. ( actually I
foolishly tried it first with my 220mb ATA Sandisk). All I got was an
hourglass after I went back to filer. Has to give it the 3 finger salute.

On the assumption that one of my TSR's might be conflicting, I unloaded
EVERYTHING ( Buddy, tremm, abctsr, battlog, even spd31)  Same deal. Going
back to Filer all I ever got was an hourglass . I NEVER LOST ANY DATA, but
I did sweat when my 220MB was in untill it came up OK.
Also: If I can get NODELAY to work I may try partitioning an A: drive to
get an A: and a B:. I have a 5mb, 48mb, and a 160mb that I can try as long
as it PROBABLY  wont damage the card.

Any suggestions on how I can get this to work, let me know!

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So where does all this stand?

Does NODELAY.COM work?

Is IC.COM a workable solution?

There has been so much discussion about problems and issues and solutions, I
think a recp is in order.   Heck if there is some source around, I wouldn't
mind taking a crack at it, if I knew where it all stands.

Ciao!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: CF card startup.


Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> Yes, I agree with Stefan because I've ``disabled'' the very
> DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128...

I knew the experts are here ;-) Rudi, haven't heard from you
for a long time.

> The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes)
> I thus have a line in my autoexec.bat:
>
>      a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=36 /t
>
> with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET.

If all you want is to disable this very function from DOS,
one could do it in a 500 bytes TSR, but I see, your IC.COM
is much more powerful.

Good news to see there is a solution for this problem,
but as you say, one should be *VERY* careful in using it.

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On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I have looked them up in an ASCII table (the LXPRO F3 ASCII table), but
> couldn't find any pattern (no simple ASCII value offset due to a lost
> bit).

It's not quite as simple. Your mail program uses charset ISO-8859-1 (Latin
1) for character encoding, so you cannot compare to the IBM Extended ASCII
character set (which I believe the LX uses) directly and expect correct
results :-)

If we use the binary values in the Latin 1 set for ae oe and ue, we get
the following:

Char    Hex     Binary

 ae     E4      11100100
  d     64      01100100
 oe     F6      11110110
  v     76      01110110
 ue     FC      11111100
  |     7C      01111100


Now it's quite clear that it's stripping the most significant bit.


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You need to start it using appointment from SYSMGR. See SYSMGR
manual or help (press F2 then F1 and see program | ...)

Kind regards

Helmuth

> Another POSTLX question.
>
> I would like to set up POSTLX so that it wakes up
> at 6am to download mail and news, as if the
> F5 key had been pressed.
>
> Is there a way to do this?
>
> ...Gary
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Hi friends,

My 200LX does not respond to left it away for more than one day.
. . .
I have no idea of what can i do...
Anyone have idea??

I'm sad
J.Belmonte


----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Dead Palmtop!?


> Hi Juan
>
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:40:03 +0100, "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@ERESMAS.COM>
wrote:
>
> > Obviously, I wanted to add to my previous post (about dead palmtop, not
the
> > other) I tried it with and without the battery.
> > OT: Whats matter with 8bit chars?? The soft of the mail-list server cut
down
> > to 7bit ascii??
>
> I don't know. Here are a few German 8-bits (ae, oe, ue, ss): d v | _
> Letss see what they are converted to.
>
> > I tried with an AC adaptor but same behaviour (not change).
>
> Ah, okay. So it is NOT a loose battery contact.
> Please report if the battery removing helped. If not, we have to find
> other wys to find the reason at least.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Joseph Buford wrote:

> I tried nodelay with my DS 6mb 200lx and a 5mb HP flash card. ( actually=
 I
> foolishly tried it first with my 220mb ATA Sandisk). All I got was an
> hourglass after I went back to filer. Has to give it the 3 finger =
salute.

you have to load NODELAY before you start SysMgr. You cannot start
it from a SysMgr DOS box, like you cannot do with any other TSR.
Upon returning from a DOS box, SysMgr reinstalls its own vector
table, thereby overwriting (partially?) what a previous TSR did.

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I am about to decide to buy a second hand 200lx(4MB),
with a hinge crack of 1 inch long. Other than this,
palmtop is in very good condition.
Did anybody repair such a long crack? And is it a good
idea to buy such palmtop(only palmtop itself)for 100$?


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Tralornik wrote:
>Does anyone know of a Chat program that uses
> the Infrared Port on the LX to allow to LX users
> to send messages back and forth?

Since the infrared will only work if the two LXs are within
about eight inches of each other, any program will work just
fine.

In fact, some people have reported being able to chat while
eight inches apart even with their LXs turned off.

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The recently mentioned program to control a Lego Mindstorm RCX from an HP
Palmtop
(see http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html) links to a download at
http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive/eddie.mit.edu/hp95lx/hp100lx/Rc.zip .
Unfortunately, the download requires a login with password. Does anyone have
the RC.zip file they could send me, or does anyone know how to log in to the
MIT site?

Bob

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Mike,

You might try ICMT.exe

It uses a beep sequence on startup. It's on super.

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You could try Remote Commander from SUPER. It is also a
learning remote control program. When did eddie start using
authentication?


On 10 Dec 2001, at 8:02, Feldman, Robert wrote:

> The recently mentioned program to control a Lego Mindstorm RCX from an HP
> Palmtop
> (see http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html) links to a download at
> http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive/eddie.mit.edu/hp95lx/hp100lx/Rc.zip .
> Unfortunately, the download requires a login with password. Does anyone have
> the RC.zip file they could send me, or does anyone know how to log in to the
> MIT site?
>
> Bob
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Does anyone know if it is possible to use an Iomega Clik! drive (now called
PocketZip) in a 200LX? I couldn't find out how much power they draw, but I
seem to remember that it might be more than the 200LX can supply. The reason
I am asking is that MicroCenter is selling them for $19.99 (each disk holds
40MB).

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The Clik Drive will not work in the 200LX. The drive has a motor and take a
considerable amount of power. There are also no drivers available to allow
operation in DOS.



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Hi Juan

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:32:09 +0100, "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@ERESMAS.COM> wrote:

> My 200LX does not respond to left it away for more than one day.
> . . .
> I have no idea of what can i do...
> Anyone have idea??

Sorry if I have forgotten..
Is it a hardware-modified unit (RAM or speed upgrade)?
If so, such a part of modified hardware could have get corrupted by
mechanical stress.
The native HP hardware is actually fairly robust.

Now I can only suggest that you send it to Thaddeus or Rundel
Datentechnik for a repair. Or buy a used unit on ebay.

GTX
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Hi Barry

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:02:51 -0600, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> In fact, some people have reported being able to chat while
> eight inches apart even with their LXs turned off.

:-)
This may even work over a distance of 8 meters. But as soon as you
switch the palmtop on, you are limited to 8 inches.... or what? ;-)

GTX
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Hi Bulent

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:42:38 -0800, Bulent Bicioglu <bulentbicioglu@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I am about to decide to buy a second hand 200lx(4MB),
> with a hinge crack of 1 inch long. Other than this,
> palmtop is in very good condition.
> Did anybody repair such a long crack? And is it a good
> idea to buy such palmtop(only palmtop itself)for 100$?

I think 100 $ is a fairly good price for a 4MB palmtop, even with a
hinge crack.
Americans may say it's too expensive, because you get anotherone on
ebay.com for less. But if you compare this with German (ebay.de)
prices, this is reasonable.

You can probably fix the hinge crack by glueing a metal plate onto the
crack with epoxy glue. I think I have a link on my homepage which
describes what I mean.
Have a look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair

Good luck!

GTX
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I have 3 files for the Lego Mindstorm RCX control program ver 1.0:

rc.zip
mindstorms.txt
lego.rcf

about 47.2K total

I would be happy to send these files to anyone - off list



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Most US eBay prices for a 200LX are much more than $100, often more than
$300 for even a 2MB unit, so $100 is a good price for a 4MB unit. The least
I have seen a 200LX go for was $80, and I feel lucky to have gotten one last
month for $113, for a unit with a broken battery compartment cover and a few
small scratches, which I thik is why I was able to get it so low.

Bob

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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<snip>

I think 100 $ is a fairly good price for a 4MB palmtop, even with a
hinge crack.
Americans may say it's too expensive, because you get anotherone on
ebay.com for less. But if you compare this with German (ebay.de)
prices, this is reasonable.

<snip>
GTX
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Hallo Daniel,

on your homepage I found a small hint about the Nokia Orange. I've
just got a 700LX and a Nokia from eBay. The Nokia (E-Plus PT-11) came
in a box "Nokia 2140 / Orange". So I think, that the Nokia 2140 is a
(PCN DCS) GSM1800-phone with two further (several) releases, so the
Orange for the provider "Orange" in GB and the green PT-11 for
E-Plus. The internals are identical.

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

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No, its an standard speed standard 2Mb unit. Only CF to PCcard adapter
w/ an 64Mb CF (when it lost, now it's without).
Maybe too power drain damaged power supply??

 jmusiele@mninter.net just write:
>İ...¨You might try measuring the power supply voltages on the
>motherboard- they should be 3.3, 5, and 12.

I'm technician. I repaired some badly damaged devices (Playstation,
VoodooBanshee, ...). Where can i locate schematics of the HPLX??

Or even easier: Can anyone show me where to measure voltage at
mainboard (http://www.hplx.net/fullcase.jpg) to verify if its power supply
fault that probably i can repair ... ??
((big & acurate pictures at http://www.hplx.net/hardware.pictures.html ))

my broadband email it's belmonte@medtelecom.net


Thanks
Juan Belmonte


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> Hi Juan
>
> Sorry if I have forgotten..
> Is it a hardware-modified unit (RAM or speed upgrade)?
> If so, such a part of modified hardware could have get corrupted by
> mechanical stress.
> The native HP hardware is actually fairly robust.
>
> Now I can only suggest that you send it to Thaddeus or Rundel
> Datentechnik for a repair. Or buy a used unit on ebay.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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I now have 4 files for the Lego Mindstorm RCX control program:

rc.zip         (Remote Control version 1.0)
rc200.zip      (Remote Control version 2.0)
mindstorms.txt (Info on How To Control the LEGO MindStorms robot)
lego.rcf       (Control file for the LEGO MindStorms robot)

about 92K total

I would be happy to send these files to anyone - off list



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Mike Cheponis wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> > From DOS type ECHO ¬G  ...that's a Ctrl-G, and press ENTER.
> > You should hear a beep which means the speaker works Ok in DOS
> > which also means no sound is the morse programs fault.
>
> Thanks.
> No sound!  ;-(
> Strange that the alarms work.

Mike,
I'm replying via the list so other can maybe help.

If your alarms work that says the LX hardware is Ok.  If the
ECHO doesn't work that indicates something is happening in DOS.
The ECHO passes the ¬G thru the Bios to make the beep; maybe
something is filtering the keyboard?  If the morse program also
uses Bios then the problem is similar to ECHO.  If morse writes
directly to the hardware then you should hear something as the
LX alarms prove it works.

Anyone else have any comments or ideas?

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Goodness, I'm embarassed(!).

Turns out I had the Volume turned down all the way (ctrl+Filer then F5 then
adjust volume).  But the alarms did work, so I guess overriding that
was a feature.

But it's all OK now, and thanks everybody for the help!    -Mike



On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:15:35 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@pobox.com>
> To: Mike Cheponis <mac@wireless.com>, HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: Morse Code Programs - Enable sound?
>
> Mike Cheponis wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:
> >
> > > From DOS type ECHO ¬G  ...that's a Ctrl-G, and press ENTER.
> > > You should hear a beep which means the speaker works Ok in DOS
> > > which also means no sound is the morse programs fault.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > No sound!  ;-(
> > Strange that the alarms work.
>
> Mike,
> I'm replying via the list so other can maybe help.
>
> If your alarms work that says the LX hardware is Ok.  If the
> ECHO doesn't work that indicates something is happening in DOS.
> The ECHO passes the ¬G thru the Bios to make the beep; maybe
> something is filtering the keyboard?  If the morse program also
> uses Bios then the problem is similar to ECHO.  If morse writes
> directly to the hardware then you should hear something as the
> LX alarms prove it works.
>
> Anyone else have any comments or ideas?
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
>

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Feldman, Robert wrote:
> The recently mentioned program to control a Lego Mindstorm RCX from an HP
> Palmtop
> (see http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html) links to a download at
> http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive/eddie.mit.edu/hp95lx/hp100lx/Rc.zip .
> Unfortunately, the download requires a login with password. Does anyone have
> the RC.zip file they could send me, or does anyone know how to log in to the
> MIT site?

Isn't Garlic.com run by ex-LXer Bill Childers?  I've copied him
on this reply to see if he can fix it.

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Hi Daniel,

This a bit old, but worth responding to anyway.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > There are two surprises here: I did not expect the C: drive to fail. =
That is really a novelty to me. I have seen this hap
> > pen but EXTREMELY rarely.
>
> Well, the C: drive only needs a very short power lack to fail.

The C: drive from HP indeed goes up in smoke easily. I meant
the C: drive implemented in the add-on 64MB. This memory is
usually persistent. I recall an occasion when it was still
completely functional after a month or more without ANY
battery power!

> > The second nasty is the PCMCIA failure. This has never happened =
bafore. I rely on the PCMCIA as
>
> This is really strange. What happened exaclty? Simply everything wiped
> out? Some missing files? Wrong FAT entries? Did you swap flash cards in
> a way you didn't before?

This failure of the A: PCMCIA drive was total. I am now
convinced that the FAT was overwritten to an extent that
nothing could be found on the drive. I saw nothing on the
drive. Looking into it sector by sector revealed mostly junk,
not what I expected - text saved on the drive. I think it is
possible to easily step on the FAT and destroy it. But I have
not seen many times that the content itself will be scrambled.
But there it was. That was surprising to me.

> I hope you find the reason in order to preevent future failings!

So far, nothing has become apparent. I am even more careful
about backups now, and it probably makes the gremlin sit tight
and not act out in any malcious way. Probably waiting for me
to relax a bit! :-( ... Really, the best I have is some
electrical thing which was transient, unusual and forceful
enough to do the damage. I, like you, wish I had a better
explanation so I can work for a preventive measure, but
haven't got the explanation, unfortunately.

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Hi friends,

I decided to run Scandisk on my newly self-installed T2T 32MB RAM
drive to see if I did anything wrong with the soldering.

Eveything seems to be fine, exept:

"The DOS FAT media byte is missing" (freely translated from the German
version)

I only initialized the drive with RDT2T, I didn't format it. Should I
format it before filling it with data? Everything seems to work fine,
Scandisk has set this byte now, and it doesn't complain anymore about it.

GTX
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Hi Russell, Mike

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:15:35 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> > No sound!  ;-(
> > Strange that the alarms work.
>
> If your alarms work that says the LX hardware is Ok.  If the
> ECHO doesn't work that indicates something is happening in DOS.
> The ECHO passes the ¬G thru the Bios to make the beep; maybe
> something is filtering the keyboard?  If the morse program also
> uses Bios then the problem is similar to ECHO.  If morse writes
> directly to the hardware then you should hear something as the
> LX alarms prove it works.

Try LXPRO or similar programs to control the speaker volume directly.
So you can make sure the speaker volume is switched on before you start
the morse program.
If this still doesn't solve the problem, the program may be currupted.

GTX
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Feldman, Robert wrote:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to use an Iomega Clik! drive (now =
called
> PocketZip) in a 200LX?

Apart from the power requirements, the clik drive does not fit
physically into the palmtop. Not because of it's height, but
because of it's 5mm region which covers a bigger area than a
usual PCMCIA card does. The palmtop has a sledge that ends up
in the connector. The clik does not fit into the sledge.
I checked it with an opened palmtop and one of those really
cheap and nice clik drives. I use the clik for notebook backups.

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I am trying to get the MegaHertz/US Robotics 33.6 "Analog Cellular Capable"
PC Card / PCMCIA Modem Model XJ4336 to work with my HP 200LX and the WWW/LX
software.

What it is doing is that it dials but immediately goes into a busy dialtone
mode. I suspect that it is echoing both the dial command (atdt) and the
phone number (i.e. aaddtt55223344556677)

I have tried several initialization strings in wwwsetup.exe but have not
been successful. The ones that I have tried are:
AT&F
AT&F2
AT&F1
AT&F0
ATZ
ATE0 (to stop the double-characters)

Has anyone tried this modem, and if so, how does one get the modem to work
properly with the 200LX  and the WWW/LX software?

I have been using this modem with My Toshiba Satellite 850CS laptop for the
past two years for both "landline" and cellular connections without any
problems.

Is this modem compatible with the HP 200LX ?

A response will be appreciated.

Thank You !!

Khalil Ladjevardi
(Amateur Radio callsign : K6FCC)
Los Angeles, California

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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:45:53 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Avi Meshar"
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: C: drive failure


>The C: drive from HP indeed goes up in smoke easily. I meant
>the C: drive implemented in the add-on 64MB. This memory is
>usually persistent. I recall an occasion when it was still
>completely functional after a month or more without ANY
>battery power!

I want to echo Avi's support of the T2T additional memory's resiliancy.  It
has saved my behind more than once (yesterday included).  I have had a 32MB
upgrade for about 2 years and I will occasionally do the wrong thing.  HP's
C: drive will die, but I've NEVER lost anything on the T2T drive due to a
low voltage or dead battery.
All the talk last month about rechargable batteries made me take the plunge.
Two 1600 ma NiMH don't last nearly as long as a set of alkalines.  Seem to
die quicker too.  Sunday afternoon everything was OK.  Monday morning when I
tried to turn it on, it was DEAD.  Not even a beep.  (Heart drops!)  Got a
couple AA's in and powered it up.  It asked for owner info.  Got the startup
info off my backup card and loaded speed and card drivers to find everything
is copacetic on the big drive.
I think that the robust nature of that upgrade with it's persistant memory
makes it an almost necessity.  Even if you don't "need" the space.
Thanks again Mack!
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There has been a lot of talk recently on the HP-LX mailing list about
slow read times with large flash cards.  I recently purchased a 128 MB
compact flash for my machine and found about a 10 second delay whenever
I invoked Filer.  I have an old DOS file manager that some folks may
find useful.  It was written by a fellow named Kevin McKelvey when he
was a PhD student at the University of Florida.  He now works for the US

Forest Service in Montana.  Kevin has given permission for the software
to be distributed and posted on the Super site, and I have sent the
program
to Mitch, so it should be available sometime.  Or I can email the
program to anyone
who wants it.

FILES is a small file manager.  It can sort files by prefix or suffix,
rename, copy and delete files, has block copy and delete functions, can
view files on screen, print files, and run .EXE and .COM as child
programs.  F1 brings up a short help screen, but for the most part the
program is self explanatory.  The command line "c:\files" brings up the
color version, while "c:\files b" brings up a monochrome version which
some may prefer on the palmtop.  It returns the file list on my 128 MB
a: drive in less than one second, compared to 10-11 seconds using Filer.

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As for the power problem, could it be that you do not have the NiMH
batteries charged fully? They really require a full bake especially
initially. If you do not have ABCLX, get charg-it and let them soak for 16
hrs or so. Mine last a long time except when I stick a modem in it or use
the ENet card a lot.

KeithG
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Avi Meshar"
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: C: drive failure
>
>
> >The C: drive from HP indeed goes up in smoke easily. I meant
> >the C: drive implemented in the add-on 64MB. This memory is
> >usually persistent. I recall an occasion when it was still
> >completely functional after a month or more without ANY
> >battery power!
>
> I want to echo Avi's support of the T2T additional memory's resiliancy.
It
> has saved my behind more than once (yesterday included).  I have had a
32MB
> upgrade for about 2 years and I will occasionally do the wrong thing.
HP's
> C: drive will die, but I've NEVER lost anything on the T2T drive due to a
> low voltage or dead battery.
> All the talk last month about rechargable batteries made me take the
plunge.
> Two 1600 ma NiMH don't last nearly as long as a set of alkalines.  Seem to
> die quicker too.  Sunday afternoon everything was OK.  Monday morning when
I
> tried to turn it on, it was DEAD.  Not even a beep.  (Heart drops!)  Got a
> couple AA's in and powered it up.  It asked for owner info.  Got the
startup
> info off my backup card and loaded speed and card drivers to find
everything
> is copacetic on the big drive.
> I think that the robust nature of that upgrade with it's persistant memory
> makes it an almost necessity.  Even if you don't "need" the space.
> Thanks again Mack!
> bob
>
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Hi Avi

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:48:58 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> The C: drive from HP indeed goes up in smoke easily. I meant
> the C: drive implemented in the add-on 64MB. This memory is
> usually persistent. I recall an occasion when it was still
> completely functional after a month or more without ANY
> battery power!

WOW. This is great!
How do I know if the drive is still intact?

Normally, if I boot after a power down, RDT2T should ask "initilize
drive". Must I say "n" then, and look with a dir and some read access
if the data is still okay, or does RDT2T not ask at all if I want to
initialize the drive if the data is still okay?

> So far, nothing has become apparent. I am even more careful
> about backups now, and it probably makes the gremlin sit tight
> and not act out in any malcious way. Probably waiting for me
> to relax a bit! :-( ... Really, the best I have is some
> electrical thing which was transient, unusual and forceful
> enough to do the damage. I, like you, wish I had a better
> explanation so I can work for a preventive measure, but
> haven't got the explanation, unfortunately.

So lets hope the Gremlin will stay where it is.
What do you mean by the electrical thing? Electrostatical discharge?
This is actually the only non-mechanical force which i can imagine is
possible to destroy data on a PCMCIA card. Even magnetic fields would
have to be _extremely_ powerful AND alternating to induce voltages in
the card's circuits which are able to damage data.

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:31:59 +0200
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Hi friends,

I'm currently writing a little program to convert the phone.pdb into
PIM/PE compatible format.

Works already, but the output is not sorted alphabetically.

For a sorted output, I must have a way to sort the intermediate CDF
file which is created by GDBIO phone.cdf /X /N (i.e., containing note
lines).

The format if such a file is:

D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name1","number1","address1"
N note for name1
N note line 2 for name1
N here ends the note for name1
D "name3","number3","address3"

And it should look sorted like:

D "name1","number1","address1"
N note for name1
N note line 2 for name1
N here ends the note for name1
D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name3","number3","address3"

(alphabetically sorted using the name field, but only using D lines. N
lines shall follow the D line which they followed before).

Does anyone have an idea how to do this?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:55:16 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:23 AM
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> As for the power problem, could it be that you do not have the NiMH
> batteries charged fully? They really require a full bake especially
> initially. If you do not have ABCLX, get charg-it and let them soak for 16
> hrs or so. Mine last a long time except when I stick a modem in it or use
> the ENet card a lot.
>

Keith,
I charged them with an external NiMH charger overnight before each use and
24 hours before the first time.
I bought a kit from www.batterybarn.com that included 4 1600 NiMH AAs and a
charger that will charge AAs, AAAs & 9V NiMH or NiCads.  It has a switch to
tell it which to charge.  One of the neat features is that the prongs on the
charger fold up like the HP F1011A adapter.  The instruction sheet talks
about shifting to a trickle charge after the batteries are fully charged.
It lists times of 4 hours for NiCad and 7 hours for NiMH AAs.  The set sold
for about $19 plus shipping.  I called the business before buying and asked
a couple questions of their "techie".  He seemed to know what he was talking
about so I took a chance.  (He at least knew a lot more than me.)
I have averaged about  7 or 8 days out of a charge on the NiMHs over the
last month or so before the low battery notice.  This time there was no
notice at 6 days.  Previously, I had been getting about a month on a set of
Alkalines, averaged over the last couple years.
I have a copy of ABC/LX that I bought many years ago before Avi was so
generous.  I tried NiCads then and really didn't like having to charge every
day so I stopped using them and went back to Alkalines.  Guess I'll need to
reinstall it to help me monitor usage.  I really don't want to charge in the
HP so it won't be used for that.
bob

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>> In fact, some people have reported being able to chat while
>> eight inches apart even with their LXs turned off.
>
> This may even work over a distance of 8 meters. But as soon as
you
> switch the palmtop on, you are limited to 8 inches.... or
what? ;-)

I didn't realize that.  Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:55:10 -0500
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I charge mine in the palmtop and generally charge them up once every 2
months or so of desktop use (on when I need to use the unit, but it just
sits there sleeping most of the time - maybe I should get an external
charger). Is the general consensus not to charge these in the palmtop due to
long term heat generation? The absolute best are the Lithium batteries, but
at 6.00 per set, they are pricey.

Keith
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Grider" <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: C: drive failure
>
>
> > As for the power problem, could it be that you do not have the NiMH
> > batteries charged fully? They really require a full bake especially
> > initially. If you do not have ABCLX, get charg-it and let them soak for
16
> > hrs or so. Mine last a long time except when I stick a modem in it or
use
> > the ENet card a lot.
> >
>
> Keith,
> I charged them with an external NiMH charger overnight before each use and
> 24 hours before the first time.
> I bought a kit from www.batterybarn.com that included 4 1600 NiMH AAs and
a
> charger that will charge AAs, AAAs & 9V NiMH or NiCads.  It has a switch
to
> tell it which to charge.  One of the neat features is that the prongs on
the
> charger fold up like the HP F1011A adapter.  The instruction sheet talks
> about shifting to a trickle charge after the batteries are fully charged.
> It lists times of 4 hours for NiCad and 7 hours for NiMH AAs.  The set
sold
> for about $19 plus shipping.  I called the business before buying and
asked
> a couple questions of their "techie".  He seemed to know what he was
talking
> about so I took a chance.  (He at least knew a lot more than me.)
> I have averaged about  7 or 8 days out of a charge on the NiMHs over the
> last month or so before the low battery notice.  This time there was no
> notice at 6 days.  Previously, I had been getting about a month on a set
of
> Alkalines, averaged over the last couple years.
> I have a copy of ABC/LX that I bought many years ago before Avi was so
> generous.  I tried NiCads then and really didn't like having to charge
every
> day so I stopped using them and went back to Alkalines.  Guess I'll need
to
> reinstall it to help me monitor usage.  I really don't want to charge in
the
> HP so it won't be used for that.
> bob
>
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Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:09:28 -0500 (EST)

"Crazy Al" has a deal for you:

More office clean-out has yielded 2 external battery chargers.

1) RadioShack #23-242 "3 Hour Charger/Conditioner" holds 4 cells(you
must charge 4 cells at a time)

2) Eveready mod: CH2AA "ChargeMan" holds 2 cells, has nifty foldup AC
prongs (I looked up the specs somewhere on this unit, and it is rated
at 166mA(2.9V)

Either of these is yours for the cost of shipping ($3.50 USPS Priority)

First come - First serve ;-)

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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:44:10 -0800
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Can you please comment on PCMCIA driver for desktop
computer. I want to buy one in order to backup and
share the information on my pcmcia card that I use
with my palmtop.
thnx, Bulent

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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:10:48 -0000
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I have just inherited a Megahertz Ethernet card, model # XJ10BT, that came
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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:33:17 +0100
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> Can you please comment on PCMCIA driver for desktop
> computer.

Thats an issue I have one or two questions also:

I recently bought a PCMCIA-drive for one of my desktop computers. After
installation I tried several cards (pcmcia modem, CF-card with adaptor
etc.). Every single card worked perfectly, except my old 1MB sram-card I'm
using in my 95LX. The computer notifies my about the brand and the capacity
but I can't access the card.
Any ideas?

regards,
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On 11 Dec 2001, at 12:55, Keith Grider wrote:

> charger). Is the general consensus not to charge these in the palmtop due to
> long term heat generation? The absolute best are the Lithium batteries, but
> at 6.00 per set, they are pricey.

No. The palmtop doesn't generate enough heat to damage anything
while charging. What does matter is using a AC adapter with a
voltage greater than 12 volts. That will short the internal power
supply faster than anything.

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Date:         Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:47:27 +0200
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Hi Bulent

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:44:10 -0800, Bulent Bicioglu <bulentbicioglu@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Can you please comment on PCMCIA driver for desktop
> computer. I want to buy one in order to backup and
> share the information on my pcmcia card that I use
> with my palmtop.

For this purpose, you actually don't need a full-featured PDMDIA drive
for your desktop - a Flash or Compact Flash card reader / writer would
be fully sufficient.
These are also easier to install (at least under Windows) and to
handle.

Currrently, most units come with an USB port and cost about 50 US$ I
think. Newer Windows versions should come with the necessary drivers or
they are supplied on CD or diskette.

You simply connect the device to your PC (USB or parallel port), maybe
install the driver, and then everytime you stick a card into the slot,
it appears as a new drive letter in Windows Explorer and you can use it
like a hard disk.

GTX
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Hi Oliver

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:33:17 +0100, "Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE> wrote:

> I recently bought a PCMCIA-drive for one of my desktop computers. After
> installation I tried several cards (pcmcia modem, CF-card with adaptor
> etc.). Every single card worked perfectly, except my old 1MB sram-card I'm
> using in my 95LX. The computer notifies my about the brand and the capacity
> but I can't access the card.

I don't know exactly how to handle this, but I know it can be done.
Searchin the list archives for "SRAM Windows" or so and you will
probably find the solution.
It was something like adding a driver line to an ini file or so.

GTX
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Hi Bob,

> I want to echo Avi's support of the T2T additional memory's resiliancy.  It
> has saved my behind more than once (yesterday included).  I have had a 32MB
> upgrade for about 2 years and I will occasionally do the wrong thing.  HP's
> C: drive will die, but I've NEVER lost anything on the T2T drive due to a
> low voltage or dead battery.

Still a caveat: I would not trust it. I know of _some_ (very few) occasions where the add-on T2T memory did die (mine is =
an example...)

Soooo back up back up backup <g>

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I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using
my Toshiba Libretto for.  I would like to upgrade my Libretto to something
similarly physically, but faster.  Any make/model you guys could suggest
would be cool.

Thanks,
Shane

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>my Toshiba Libretto for.&nbsp; I would like to upgrade my Libretto to something</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>similarly physically, but faster.&nbsp; Any make/model you guys could suggest</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>would be cool.</FONT>
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Hi Shane

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:12:37 -0600, "Thoms, Shane - SGIG" <sthoms@CARDINALCORP.COM> wrote:

> I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using
> my Toshiba Libretto for.  I would like to upgrade my Libretto to something
> similarly physically, but faster.  Any make/model you guys could suggest
> would be cool.

Not exactly physically the same, but check out the HP Omnibook 800CT.
It is a very powerful machine (up to Pentium 166 MMX, up to 80 MB RAM).
And small, compared to most current laptops.

Of course there are newer HP modles which are as small or even smaller
than the 800 and more powerful. But they cost 5-10 times the money a
800CT costs.

GTX
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There are modern Librettos being made in Japan. You can find them on eBay
:)

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Thoms, Shane - SGIG wrote:

>
> I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using
> my Toshiba Libretto for.  I would like to upgrade my Libretto to something
> similarly physically, but faster.  Any make/model you guys could suggest
> would be cool.
>
> Thanks,
> Shane
>
> P.S.  Still keeping the 200.  :-))
>
>
>
>

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Avi,

> > I want to echo Avi's support of the T2T additional memory's resiliancy=
.  It
> > has saved my behind more than once (yesterday included).  I have had =
a 32MB
> > upgrade for about 2 years and I will occasionally do the wrong thing. =
 HP's
> > C: drive will die, but I've NEVER lost anything on the T2T drive due =
to a
> > low voltage or dead battery.
>
> Still a caveat: I would not trust it. I know of _some_ (very few) =
occasions where the add-on T2T memory did die (mine is
> an example...)
>
> Soooo back up back up backup <g>

For me this is valid for all data processing.

Here recenty an almost new hard disk crashed. This harddisk was one of
a RAID 5 system. In the meantime the disk was replaced and reorganized.
At this site there was NO backup and when the harddisk crashed everone
did drive crazy. Now after the harddisk is replaced, still NO backup is
evaluated.


Kind regards

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Size and speed are my concerns.  Must run full Windows OS also.
Price is negotiable, work expense.  :-)  What about the LX series?
Did they ever get beyond WinCE?


Thanks,
Shane

>
>> I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using
>> my Toshiba Libretto for.  I would like to upgrade my
>Libretto to something
>> similarly physically, but faster.  Any make/model you guys
>could suggest
>> would be cool.
>
>Not exactly physically the same, but check out the HP Omnibook 800CT.
>It is a very powerful machine (up to Pentium 166 MMX, up to 80 MB RAM).
>And small, compared to most current laptops.
>
>Of course there are newer HP modles which are as small or even smaller
>than the 800 and more powerful. But they cost 5-10 times the money a
>800CT costs.
>
>GTX
>daniel
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Size and speed are my concerns.&nbsp; Must run full =
Windows OS also.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Price is negotiable, work expense.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; =
What about the LX series?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Did they ever get beyond WinCE?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Shane</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do =
for me I have been using</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; my Toshiba Libretto for.&nbsp; I would like =
to upgrade my </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Libretto to something</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; similarly physically, but faster.&nbsp; Any =
make/model you guys </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;could suggest</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; would be cool.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Not exactly physically the same, but check out =
the HP Omnibook 800CT.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;It is a very powerful machine (up to Pentium 166 =
MMX, up to 80 MB RAM).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;And small, compared to most current =
laptops.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Of course there are newer HP modles which are as =
small or even smaller</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;than the 800 and more powerful. But they cost =
5-10 times the money a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;800CT costs.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;GTX</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;daniel</FONT>
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01h26m12s ago ...
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:55:10 -0500, Keith Grider wrote:

> Is the general consensus not to charge these in the palmtop
> due to long term heat generation?

AFAIK nobody has reported a problem specifically related to
circuit "heat fatigue", due to charging on board.

The consensus is that it is a risk. But whether it is greater
than the risk of mechanical damage/mental stress while changing
batteries, is a moot point<G>.

Personally I don't think the circuitry can be too bothered by
the temperature cycles - otherwise my units would be dead by
now<G>. I opted for the easy life, and possible
heat-fatigue<G>.

After I felt the heat in my old Libretto I realised that the
palmtop barely gets warm in comparison. Assuming the palmtop
circuitry is not any more susceptible that the Libretto's I
figured the risk must be pretty insignificant.

I could be wrong of course.

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Daniel wrote:
>...And it should look sorted like:
>D "name1","number1","address1"
>N note for name1
>N note line 2 for name1
>N here ends the note for name1
>D "name2","number2","address2"
>D "name3","number3","address3"
>(alphabetically sorted using the name field, but only
>using D lines. N lines shall follow the D line which
>they followed before).
>Does anyone have an idea how to do this?

At the risk of being shot down when someone else
posts a better and more obvious method, my initial
thoughts would be as follows:

Let's say your basic file as shown in your note
is file1. Copy it to file2 and sort file2 by the
first two fields (D/N and "Name n") using your
favourite sort program.

File2 should then look like:

D "name1","number1","address1"
D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name3","number3","address3"
D "...... etc"
N note for name1
N note line 2 for name1
N here ends the note for name1
N note for ...... etc

The 'N' records might be in any kind of order within
themselves, but it doesn't matter.

Next, you write a program (or include this in your
existing program) which reads file2, D records only.
For each D record it reads, it searches file1 for
the same record, then writes that record, plus all
following N records until the next D record, to a
new file, file3.
That's it. I'm sure there's a better way, but that
will do it. Getting the match in file1 will be slow
since it's not sorted and binary search is therefore
not possible, but that's what computers are for.

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Check out the Sony Vaio Picturebook. It runs circles around my Libretto. In
fact, I just put the Libretto on ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1307687768

Mike...


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> Hi Shane
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:12:37 -0600, "Thoms, Shane - SGIG"
<sthoms@CARDINALCORP.COM> wrote:
>
> > I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using
> > my Toshiba Libretto for.  I would like to upgrade my Libretto to
something
> > similarly physically, but faster.  Any make/model you guys could suggest
> > would be cool.
>
> Not exactly physically the same, but check out the HP Omnibook 800CT.
> It is a very powerful machine (up to Pentium 166 MMX, up to 80 MB RAM).
> And small, compared to most current laptops.
>
> Of course there are newer HP modles which are as small or even smaller
> than the 800 and more powerful. But they cost 5-10 times the money a
> 800CT costs.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I'm currently writing a little program to convert the phone.pdb into
> PIM/PE compatible format.
>
> Works already, but the output is not sorted alphabetically.

PalEdit has built-in "database" functionalities. It is able to sort
records.

> For a sorted output, I must have a way to sort the intermediate CDF
> file which is created by GDBIO phone.cdf /X /N (i.e., containing note
> lines).
>
> The format if such a file is:
>
> D "name2","number2","address2"
> D "name1","number1","address1"
> N note for name1
> N note line 2 for name1
> N here ends the note for name1
> D "name3","number3","address3"
>
> And it should look sorted like:
>
> D "name1","number1","address1"
> N note for name1
> N note line 2 for name1
> N here ends the note for name1
> D "name2","number2","address2"
> D "name3","number3","address3"
>
> (alphabetically sorted using the name field, but only using D lines. N
> lines shall follow the D line which they followed before).
>
> Does anyone have an idea how to do this?

* In PE do a Ctrl-C and use the string "D "" as delimiter. This creates
an outlined file.
* Next do an ESC-S to sort the outlined file - it will be saved into a
file called clipvue.txt.
* open clipvue.txt and you should have what you needed.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Hi Daniel

On 11 Dec 2001, at 21:21, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Shane
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:12:37 -0600, "Thoms, Shane - SGIG" <sthoms@CARDINALCORP.COM> wrote:
>
> > I love my 200LX and for what it cannot do for me I have been using
> > my Toshiba Libretto for.  I would like to upgrade my Libretto to something
> > similarly physically, but faster.  Any make/model you guys could suggest
> > would be cool.
>
> Not exactly physically the same, but check out the HP Omnibook 800CT.
> It is a very powerful machine (up to Pentium 166 MMX, up to 80 MB RAM).
> And small, compared to most current laptops.
>
> Of course there are newer HP modles which are as small or even smaller
> than the 800 and more powerful. But they cost 5-10 times the money a
> 800CT costs.

What's the largest hard drive a 800CT can use? Do they come with
CD rom drives?

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

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>...And it should look sorted like:
>D "name1","number1","address1"
>N note for name1
>N note line 2 for name1
>N here ends the note for name1
>D "name2","number2","address2"
>D "name3","number3","address3"
>(alphabetically sorted using the name field, but only
>using D lines. N lines shall follow the D line which
>they followed before).
>Does anyone have an idea how to do this?

---snip

As one who wrote dozens of these programs, a few options

Way a)
replace all CR-LF-N with something like @~@N (grep maybe?)
sort
replace all @~@ with CR-LF

Drawback: You need a sorter which can handle rather long records

Way b)

Write all D-lines together with Position and Total Length including those of
the N-lines appended to another file - say Dline file,
(allowing for record terminator CR or CR/LF's )
Sort Dline file
Open original file in binary format for read
Open Sorted Dline file for read sequential
Open output file in binary format for (sequential) write
read Pos and length from sorted records in Dline file, throw rest away
GET record from original file using Pos and Length
PUT sequential in Output file


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On Friday, 07.12.2001 at 10:22 EST, Stanley Dobrowski
<stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET> wrote:
> Avi wrote:
>
> > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less.
>
> > > Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you
> with
> > > some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to
> go
> > > somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V
> leaves you
> > > right on the edge. Not so good!
>

> I agree with Avi.  Starting charging at such a low voltage is
> running
> right on the edge of when the batteries will be too low to
> power the
> palmtop.  This will not leave much time to get to an AC
> adapter.  And
> there is the risk of data loss if the palmtop shuts off
> because of low
> batteries.  I think that is not smart.
>
To begin charging as high as 2.50V seems overkill to me.
I have an ACE DoubleFlash+ card which is known to create
an enormous power surge at boot time so it is rather critical
and I've always started charging at 2.33V. I'm doing this for years with
various types of NiMH batteries and I've never had a problem.
Of course, the 200LX goes into charge mode as soon as the
2.33V are reached during the power surge after boot. The "normal"
voltage after flash card initialization is still well above 2.40V.

BTW. Although I'm using ABC/LX I've stopped charging my NiMHs
in the Palmtop since I bought an NiCd/NiMH charger from Ansmann.
The Ansmann charger gets a fuller charge into the batteries and I
don't have to care about cutoff voltages, charge times etc. Once the
green LED for a cell (it can charge 4 AA or AAA in parallel) stops
blinking, the cell is fully charged. Period.

Before anyone asks, the charger was quite expensive; around
65 EUR with four 1650 mAh AA cells included.

Ulrich Boche
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Bob can speak for himself, but I assure you I have ABC/LX. In fact, if you go to the main screen of ABC/LX and press ALT-=
A then ALT-M you will see a tiny picture of what I used to look like back in 1995 when the program was written <VBG> ... =


But in the spirit of your post, battery was NOT the problem IMHO. I just finished a mail run and the machine was on an ad=
apter for that. Then, I removed the adapter, did a quick view of the email, and turned off the machine. The battery I had=
 in there is the same I have there now, a pair of Lithiums.

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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:23:17 -0500
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As for the power problem, could it be that you do not have the NiMH
batteries charged fully? They really require a full bake especially
initially. If you do not have ABCLX, get charg-it and let them soak for 16
hrs or so. Mine last a long time except when I stick a modem in it or use
the ENet card a lot.

KeithG
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Avi Meshar"
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: C: drive failure
>
>
> >The C: drive from HP indeed goes up in smoke easily. I meant
> >the C: drive implemented in the add-on 64MB. This memory is
> >usually persistent. I recall an occasion when it was still
> >completely functional after a month or more without ANY
> >battery power!
>
> I want to echo Avi's support of the T2T additional memory's resiliancy.
It
> has saved my behind more than once (yesterday included).  I have had a
32MB
> upgrade for about 2 years and I will occasionally do the wrong thing.
HP's
> C: drive will die, but I've NEVER lost anything on the T2T drive due to a
> low voltage or dead battery.
> All the talk last month about rechargable batteries made me take the
plunge.
> Two 1600 ma NiMH don't last nearly as long as a set of alkalines.  Seem to
> die quicker too.  Sunday afternoon everything was OK.  Monday morning when
I
> tried to turn it on, it was DEAD.  Not even a beep.  (Heart drops!)  Got a
> couple AA's in and powered it up.  It asked for owner info.  Got the
startup
> info off my backup card and loaded speed and card drivers to find
everything
> is copacetic on the big drive.
> I think that the robust nature of that upgrade with it's persistant memory
> makes it an almost necessity.  Even if you don't "need" the space.
> Thanks again Mack!
> bob
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:48:58 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:
>
> > The C: drive from HP indeed goes up in smoke easily. I meant
> > the C: drive implemented in the add-on 64MB. This memory is
> > usually persistent. I recall an occasion when it was still
> > completely functional after a month or more without ANY
> > battery power!
>
> WOW. This is great!
> How do I know if the drive is still intact?

You do not basically, but:

> Normally, if I boot after a power down, RDT2T should ask "initilize
> drive". Must I say "n" then, and look with a dir and some read access
> if the data is still okay, or does RDT2T not ask at all if I want to
> initialize the drive if the data is still okay?

That! RDT2T almost NEVER asks me about reinitialization. If it does, it means it cannot recognize the drive implemented i=
n that add-on memory. If that it the case, you have lost the drive.

> So lets hope the Gremlin will stay where it is.
> What do you mean by the electrical thing? Electrostatical discharge?
> This is actually the only non-mechanical force which i can imagine is
> possible to destroy data on a PCMCIA card. Even magnetic fields would
> have to be _extremely_ powerful AND alternating to induce voltages in
> the card's circuits which are able to damage data.

Right! That is the problem. To have this happen takes an unusual set of circumstances and I cannot tell you that it did o=
r not. Therefore the technical phenomenon called "gremlins". <G>

   Avi

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Hi Bob,

> I want to echo Avi's support of the T2T additional memory's resiliancy.
It
> has saved my behind more than once (yesterday included).  I have had a
32MB
> upgrade for about 2 years and I will occasionally do the wrong thing.
HP's
> C: drive will die, but I've NEVER lost anything on the T2T drive due to a
> low voltage or dead battery.
**********************************************
Still a caveat: I would not trust it. I know of _some_ (very few) occasions
where the add-on T2T memory did die (mine is an example...)
Soooo back up back up backup <g>
In most cases where there is a power hiccup, the built-in will evaporate,
but in most cases the T2T memory remains intact
************************************
I completely concur!  I've never lost anything on my T2T memory because of
power problems but I could.  And I have lost data on it due to other
reasons.  (File corruption and user stupidity mostly)  Just last month
(before I started to use the NiMHs) a GDB I use daily wouldn't open.  But
with a good backup, I only had to bring it up to date.
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:38:15PM -0600, John Musielewicz wrote:
> What does matter is using a AC adapter with a voltage
> greater than 12 volts. That will short the internal power
> supply faster than anything.

Or (IIRC) using an AC adapter with a voltage less than 12
volts, which would make the internal power supply work harder,
thus generating more heat than normal in the process.

I suspect that those cheap voltage-selectable AC adapters
sold everywhere are a Major Health Risk to your palmtop,
if my experience is anything to go by.

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02h05m06s ago ...
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:10:46 +0100, Bel, Michel wrote:

> replace all CR-LF-N with something like @~@N (grep maybe?)
> sort
> replace all @~@ with CR-LF

Elegant! Looks like a sed script, a sort and another sed will
do the trick!

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Check on eBay for an RCA RD2204. It is an mp3 player. Works
on two AA's, comes with 64MB Sandisk CF and a parallel port
CF adaptor that runs on W9x. Should be able to get one for
less than $100 USD.

Bob

Bulent Bicioglu wrote:
>
> Can you please comment on PCMCIA driver for desktop
> computer. I want to buy one in order to backup and
> share the information on my pcmcia card that I use
> with my palmtop.
> thnx, Bulent
>
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John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> What's the largest hard drive a 800CT can use? Do they come with
> CD rom drives?

Native, about 8.1G. This means they will not accept an 8.4G
drive without an overlay. That is one bad thing about the
800CT. The other bad thing is 2 hours run time per charge.
Folks have been putting in larger drives with overlays. I
have an IBM Travelstar 6.4G in mine.

Would I part with my 800CT or 200LX. 200LX, definitely not.
I have seen a few, very few replacements for the 800CT, but
I think they exist. A 200LX replacement does not exist. The
two units are complementary companions.

Bob

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If you run Linux, do you need the silly overlays? :)

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Robert K. Meyer wrote:

> John Musielewicz wrote:
> >
> > What's the largest hard drive a 800CT can use? Do they come with
> > CD rom drives?
>
> Native, about 8.1G. This means they will not accept an 8.4G
> drive without an overlay. That is one bad thing about the
> 800CT. The other bad thing is 2 hours run time per charge.
> Folks have been putting in larger drives with overlays. I
> have an IBM Travelstar 6.4G in mine.
>
> Would I part with my 800CT or 200LX. 200LX, definitely not.
> I have seen a few, very few replacements for the 800CT, but
> I think they exist. A 200LX replacement does not exist. The
> two units are complementary companions.
>
> Bob
>
> >
> > John
> >
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If you want one of these I'll sell you mine with 64 Mb CF and
parallel port CF reader for $50 plus shipping. If a 15 MB CF
card will do I'll make it $35 plus shipping.

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> Re: PCMCIA driver needed
>   Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:20:17 -0700
>   From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>
> Check on eBay for an RCA RD2204. It is an mp3 player. Works
> on two AA's, comes with 64MB Sandisk CF and a parallel port
> CF adaptor that runs on W9x. Should be able to get one for
> less than $100 USD.
>
> Bob
>
> Bulent Bicioglu wrote:
> >
> > Can you please comment on PCMCIA driver for desktop
> > computer. I want to buy one in order to backup and
> > share the information on my pcmcia card that I use
> > with my palmtop.
> > thnx, Bulent

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Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:26:15 +1300 (NZDT)

07h15m29s ago ...
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:10:46 +0100, Bel, Michel wrote:

> replace all CR-LF-N with something like @~@N (grep maybe?)
> sort
> replace all @~@ with CR-LF

I couldn't resist. This does it!

sedmod -e :a -e "$!N;s/\nN/@~@N/;ta" -e "P;D" in.txt > out1.txt
sort.exe < out1.txt > out2.txt
sedmod "s/@~@N/\nN/g" out2.txt > out3.txt

given in.txt:

D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name1","number1","address1"
N note for name1
N note line 2 for name1
N here ends the note for name1
D "name3","number3","address3"

I get out1.txt:

D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name1","number1","address1"@~@N note for name1@~@N note line 2 for name1@~@N here ends the note for name1
D "name3","number3","address3"

Then out2.txt:

D "name1","number1","address1"@~@N note for name1@~@N note line 2 for name1@~@N here ends the note for name1
D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name3","number3","address3"

Then out3.txt:

D "name1","number1","address1"
N note for name1
N note line 2 for name1
N here ends the note for name1
D "name2","number2","address2"
D "name3","number3","address3"

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As much as I try to avoid overlays like the plague, I
suspect you do unless it bypasses BIOS. There may be some on
the Omnibook list that have run Linux. I have not.

Several on the Omnibook list are using overlays. I don't
recall any complaints.

Bob

Jessica Blank wrote:
>
> If you run Linux, do you need the silly overlays? :)
>

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Tony's reply to my reply to Daniel's question
---snip
(grep maybe?)
 ----
> sort
> replace all @~@ with CR-LF

Elegant! Looks like a sed script
                      ---
--- snip

I _knew_ it was something with an "e" inside, see, I _was_ right ;-)


Yours empathically NOT a script guru, but a real Qbasic/Visual Basic type,
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Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:48:11 +1300 (NZDT)

22m05s ago ...
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:26:06 +0100, Bel, Michel wrote:

> --- snip
>
> I _knew_ it was something with an "e" inside, see, I _was_
> right ;-)

You said it Michel :)

> Yours empathically NOT a script guru, but a real
> Qbasic/Visual Basic type,

I'm a wannabe regular expression user<G>. Most of my life was
spent with GW/Q Basic though.

The sedmod I use has a line length limit of 4096 characters -
should be fine for each entry in Daniel's phone book.

BTW your "@~@" for a rare ascii character actually eveb looks
like a rare character :)

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Searching my notes, I found no mention of this card: the only
cards reported to work, AFAIK:
-Accton 2216-1 (the one I use on a DS unit) Accton 2216-2 Accton
2212-
- the Silicom Ethernet card doesn't work on the speed upgraded
palmtop. The software just keeps reporting a memory error.
Silicom's tech support hasno plans to write an updated driver.
The power use of the Silicom card (60mA active) is much lower
than any other card.
-Linksys Network Everywhere np100 pcmcia 10/100mb The card
initializes on a 200lx using LXCIC v2.1 and the EN2216 packet
driver v11.1.3.The power draw when active is too much to run off
batteries
-Kingston KNE-PC2T (EtherRx IC), a fairly generic NE2000 clone.
The trick, was to replace CIC100 with LXCIC and to use Ron
Whitby's version of the Accton packet driver (LXEN2216.COM).
This is, admittedly, on a stock 2mb 200LX.
-CF+ LP-E Ethernet card from Socket. This is a low power
consuming (19mA in active state) Compact Flash format Ethernet
adapter. I used it in my 200Lx together with Stefan Peichl's
LXCIC enabler program and Rod Whitby's LXEN2216 packet driver.
Then I connected it to my company's LAN and ran Andreas
Garzotto's DHCP to have an IP address assigned. At last I
started WWW/LX and could then run HV, POST/LX, PING, TELNET etc.
from D&A. I think this NIC from Socket is a good alternative to
the ACCTON EN2216 NIC, mainly due to it's excellent battery
saving power consumption. It is mainly designed for WinCE
products, but it can be used also under other OS'S. Price is ca.
140$, evtl. less. Find more info on www.socketcom.com


Most of the above are very much quotes from messages on the
list.

HTH

Etienne
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| I have just inherited a Megahertz Ethernet card, model #
XJ10BT, that came
| without any documentation.  Are any of you familiar with this
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| work in the HP200LX?
|
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Hi John

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:24:34 -0600, John Musielewicz <jmusiele@MNINTER.NET> wrote:


> What's the largest hard drive a 800CT can use? Do they come with
> CD rom drives?

You can use up to 8 GB without any problem.
However, if you use Linux as your only system on it, you can use any
size of hard drive.
If you also want to boot to Windows, your Windows boot partition must
be located within the girst 8 GB of the drive.

They sometimes come with a CD ROM drive. Check on ebay.
But you can attach every SCSI CD-ROM drive, PCMCIA or parallel port CD
ROM drive, as long as you have drivers for it.

GTX
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Hi Avi

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:43:00 -0500, "sponsor@ftel.net" <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Bob can speak for himself, but I assure you I have ABC/LX. In fact, if you go to the main screen of ABC/LX and press ALT-
> A then ALT-M you will see a tiny picture of what I used to look like back in 1995 when the program was written <VBG> ...
>
> But in the spirit of your post, battery was NOT the problem IMHO. I just finished a mail run and the machine was on an ad
> apter for that. Then, I removed the adapter, did a quick view of the email, and turned off the machine. The battery I had
>  in there is the same I have there now, a pair of Lithiums.

That gives me an idea:

Everytime you remove the AC adapter, there should theoretically be a
very short high voltage peak due to "opening the switch" when the two
metal parts (AC adapter plug and AC jack of the palmtop) are seperated.

(As the spark which can appear if you switch an electrical device off,
especially if you actuate the switch very slow)

There is an inductivity (coil) in series to the AC jack in every
palmtop, which I think is used to eliminate these short peaks.

If your coil is damaged, maybe a short-circuit between the beginning
and the end of the coil, so that it is overridden, maybe such a peak
got into your palmtop and destroyed the memory contents.

GTX
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Etienne,

Thanks for the summary. I was looking for this. It would be appropriate to
add this information to the Ethernet summary on www.hplx.net

Regards,

Keith Grider
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> Searching my notes, I found no mention of this card: the only
> cards reported to work, AFAIK:
> -Accton 2216-1 (the one I use on a DS unit) Accton 2216-2 Accton
> 2212-
> - the Silicom Ethernet card doesn't work on the speed upgraded
> palmtop. The software just keeps reporting a memory error.
> Silicom's tech support hasno plans to write an updated driver.
> The power use of the Silicom card (60mA active) is much lower
> than any other card.
> -Linksys Network Everywhere np100 pcmcia 10/100mb The card
> initializes on a 200lx using LXCIC v2.1 and the EN2216 packet
> driver v11.1.3.The power draw when active is too much to run off
> batteries
> -Kingston KNE-PC2T (EtherRx IC), a fairly generic NE2000 clone.
> The trick, was to replace CIC100 with LXCIC and to use Ron
> Whitby's version of the Accton packet driver (LXEN2216.COM).
> This is, admittedly, on a stock 2mb 200LX.
> -CF+ LP-E Ethernet card from Socket. This is a low power
> consuming (19mA in active state) Compact Flash format Ethernet
> adapter. I used it in my 200Lx together with Stefan Peichl's
> LXCIC enabler program and Rod Whitby's LXEN2216 packet driver.
> Then I connected it to my company's LAN and ran Andreas
> Garzotto's DHCP to have an IP address assigned. At last I
> started WWW/LX and could then run HV, POST/LX, PING, TELNET etc.
> from D&A. I think this NIC from Socket is a good alternative to
> the ACCTON EN2216 NIC, mainly due to it's excellent battery
> saving power consumption. It is mainly designed for WinCE
> products, but it can be used also under other OS'S. Price is ca.
> 140$, evtl. less. Find more info on www.socketcom.com
>
>
> Most of the above are very much quotes from messages on the
> list.
>
> HTH
>
> Etienne
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> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 08:10 PM
> Subject: Megahertz Ethernet Card
>
>
> | I have just inherited a Megahertz Ethernet card, model #
> XJ10BT, that came
> | without any documentation.  Are any of you familiar with this
> card?  Will it
> | work in the HP200LX?
> |
> | Thanks, Victor
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3Com also makes a Wince CF NIC, also with about a 20mA power draw. Anyone
have any experience with that card?

<begin wishful thinking>
What I would like to see is one of the Wince CF NIC's combined with a CF
Flash card (64MB would do) in a single Type II PCMCIA card. Sort of a
"Double Slot", but completely internal with no need for separate power. Are
there any circuit gurus out there?
<\end wishful thinking>

Bob
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Searching my notes, I found no mention of this card: the only
cards reported to work, AFAIK:
<snip>
-CF+ LP-E Ethernet card from Socket. This is a low power
consuming (19mA in active state) Compact Flash format Ethernet
adapter. <snip> It is mainly designed for WinCE
products,<snip>

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Hi Roger

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:55:01 +1300, Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> At the risk of being shot down when someone else
> posts a better and more obvious method, my initial
> thoughts would be as follows:

Noone will shot you down for a good idea!
And if someone else has a better idea, you have maybe inspired him.

> existing program) which reads file2, D records only.
> For each D record it reads, it searches file1 for
> the same record, then writes that record, plus all
> following N records until the next D record, to a
> new file, file3.
> That's it. I'm sure there's a better way, but that
> will do it. Getting the match in file1 will be slow
> since it's not sorted and binary search is therefore
> not possible, but that's what computers are for.

This sounds good, but a little bit too complicated. I would like to be
able to use existing tools rather than implement my own ones.

Thanks
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Hi Hans-Peter

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:16:42 +0100, HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> PalEdit has built-in "database" functionalities. It is able to sort
> records.

Thanks. I know. But this is not what I need. I need it to be done
automatically by my "nightly.bat" which runs every night at 2am.


Thanks a lot
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Hi Tony and Michel

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:31:08 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> > replace all CR-LF-N with something like @~@N (grep maybe?)
> > sort
> > replace all @~@ with CR-LF
>
> I couldn't resist. This does it!
>
> sedmod -e :a -e "$!N;s/\nN/@~@N/;ta" -e "P;D" in.txt > out1.txt
> sort.exe < out1.txt > out2.txt
> sedmod "s/@~@N/\nN/g" out2.txt > out3.txt

WOW, Thanks. That is exactly what I need.
I have modified it a bit and embedded it into my nightly.bat.
Works great!!

I will collect everything and throw it onto my homepage. I'll announce
here once it is online. Maybe it is useful for others too.

It will be a whole package of synchronizing tools:

PDB2ADR (phone database to Post/LX ADR files)
PDB2PHN (phone database to mobile phone phonebook using Robot/LS)
PDB2PIM (phone database to PIM/PE format)

Thanks a lot

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Hi friends,

thanks to Meichel, Tony and all others who made suggestions regarding
the sorting issue, I'm now able to tresent a partially new software
package: PDB2X.

With PDB2X you can convert the built-in phone book (phone.pdb) to
several kinds of formats:

1. Post/LX ADR file format (PDV2ADR)
2. cell phone SIM card phone book (PDB2PHN)
3. PIM/PE database format (PDB2PIM)

You can find the package and detailed descriptions at

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/pdb2x

C sources are included, so feel free to modify the programs to your own
needs, but keep my name in the files! ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Everyone,

I'd like to be able to use a DOS drawing program on my 200LX, and so, using
a mouse, trackball or trackpad with it would be a real asset.  Is this
do-able and if so, what's the best way to take care of this in terms of
connectors, drivers, settings, etc?

Thanks,
Martin G. Ramirez





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I'm sending you separately my notes on mice for the 200lx:
availability, connectors, including an article about complete
setup.
 I seem to recall the author was sending it to the Palmtop
Paper, but I can't remember if it was published.
This message, just in case other people on the list would be
interested: drop me a line

Etienne

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| Everyone,
|
| I'd like to be able to use a DOS drawing program on my 200LX,
and so, using
| a mouse, trackball or trackpad with it would be a real asset.
Is this
| do-able and if so, what's the best way to take care of this in
terms of
| connectors, drivers, settings, etc?
|
| Thanks,
| Martin G. Ramirez
|
|
|
|
|
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| Loyola Marymount University
| One LMU Drive, MS 8220
| Los Angeles, CA  90045-2659, U.S.A.
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I would very much be interested.

Are you sure you can't publish this to the list?

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Etienne Lemaire wrote:

> I'm sending you separately my notes on mice for the 200lx:
> availability, connectors, including an article about complete
> setup.
>  I seem to recall the author was sending it to the Palmtop
> Paper, but I can't remember if it was published.
> This message, just in case other people on the list would be
> interested: drop me a line
>
> Etienne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin G. Ramirez" <mramirez@LMU.EDU>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 06:21 PM
> Subject: Mouse use w/200LX
>
>
> | Everyone,
> |
> | I'd like to be able to use a DOS drawing program on my 200LX,
> and so, using
> | a mouse, trackball or trackpad with it would be a real asset.
> Is this
> | do-able and if so, what's the best way to take care of this in
> terms of
> | connectors, drivers, settings, etc?
> |
> | Thanks,
> | Martin G. Ramirez
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | ============================
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> | Department of Biology
> | Loyola Marymount University
> | One LMU Drive, MS 8220
> | Los Angeles, CA  90045-2659, U.S.A.
> | (310) 338-5120
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Ulrich Boche wrote:
> On Friday, 07.12.2001 at 10:22 EST, Stanley Dobrowski
> <stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET> wrote:
> > Avi wrote:
> >
> > > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less.
> >
> > > > Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you
> > with
> > > > some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to
> > go
> > > > somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V
> > leaves you
> > > > right on the edge. Not so good!
> >
>
> > I agree with Avi.  Starting charging at such a low voltage is
> > running
> > right on the edge of when the batteries will be too low to
> > power the
> > palmtop.  This will not leave much time to get to an AC
> > adapter.  And
> > there is the risk of data loss if the palmtop shuts off
> > because of low
> > batteries.  I think that is not smart.
> >
> To begin charging as high as 2.50V seems overkill to me.
> I have an ACE DoubleFlash+ card which is known to create
> an enormous power surge at boot time so it is rather critical
> and I've always started charging at 2.33V. I'm doing this for years =
with
> various types of NiMH batteries and I've never had a problem.
> Of course, the 200LX goes into charge mode as soon as the
> 2.33V are reached during the power surge after boot. The "normal"
> voltage after flash card initialization is still well above 2.40V.

I think you miss the point Ulrich. If you do not start
charging until the battery is nearly at the end of its useful
charge means that if you have to interrupt the charge cycle
for some reason, you end up with very little reserve.

If you start at 2.50V it seems an overkill until the day when
suddenly you have to go to a meeting, 5 minutes AFTER you
start charging. For me, haveing started charging at 2.50V, a
one hour meeting is no problem - I have the reserve!

You, having waited to 2.33V before starting the charge cycle,
you have about 25 seconds to find a set of batteries, or grab
a pencil and some paper and run for the sudden meeting!

See the difference?

  Avi

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Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:18:30 +1300 (NZDT)

                /
   |   _    _   _
 \_|  (_)  _>  (/_

Have you tried

FILER
MENU
F (File)
U (Undelete)

- Tony

PS I only wrote your name out large so I could do an accent for
the "e". This way it should show up here. Otherwise the high
ascii gets stripped down to 7 bit.

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03h34m12s ago ...
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:44:18 -0500, Josi Angel de Castro Barco
wrote:

> Someone knows a "unerase" files that work fine in the LX?.
>
> I tried with UNERASE.EXE, but fails at the FAT write; it finds
> well the erased files, but he isn@t successful to write the
> recovered file.
>
> **************************************************************
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Martin G. Ramirez <mramirez@LMU.EDU> asked about using a mouse on the
Palmtop.

The Palmtop Paper (www.PalmtopPaper.com) -> Archives -> search -> mouse
reveals 80 references.

In the past I tried a Cirque touch pad as well as a mouse and found it
slightly more useful and less bulky.  Another alternative would be to use
the HPmouse.com TSR to have the keypad emulate a mouse.

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I find that the Cirque has a funny feel on my finger tip, but that is just
my personal impression.

I use an Apoint PenMouse with my Poqet. It's like a fat pen with a 1/4 inch
ball at the tip. It works well on small or irregular surfaces (such as my
pants leg). You can get one for $9 or $10 (plus shipping) from California
Digital, as part of the old "Barbie PC Fashion Design & Color" software
package they sell. The main drawback with the pen mouse is that it is
"Barbie pink" in color!

Bob

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Subject: Re: Mouse use w/200LX


Martin G. Ramirez <mramirez@LMU.EDU> asked about using a mouse on the
Palmtop.

The Palmtop Paper (www.PalmtopPaper.com) -> Archives -> search -> mouse
reveals 80 references.

In the past I tried a Cirque touch pad as well as a mouse and found it
slightly more useful and less bulky.  Another alternative would be to use
the HPmouse.com TSR to have the keypad emulate a mouse.

.ed.

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So, I've been fiddling around with nodelay , executing no
delay first, then booting a three-session Software Carousel.
Haven't tried to fully analyze, but observations are --
sometimes nodelay makes filer work with no delay. Sometimes
nodelay makes DOS access of a:\ work with no delay. Then
again sometimes not, both with and without a power off.

Any observations to make nodelay work all in all SWC
sessions all the time?

Bob

Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> you have to load NODELAY before you start SysMgr. You cannot start
> it from a SysMgr DOS box, like you cannot do with any other TSR.
> Upon returning from a DOS box, SysMgr reinstalls its own vector
> table, thereby overwriting (partially?) what a previous TSR did.
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> Stefan
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Is there a file manager type program such as Norton Commander which does FTP
as well which runs on the palmtop? Command line ftp is too painful for me.
Super lists lxftp and ftp08 (add on to wwwlx). Midnight commander does FTP,
but I do not know if there is a DOS version readily stripped down for the
palmtop. any hints? A PAL program which looks like 'filer' would be great if
it existed... Any takers?

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All,
  Per some recent posts here, I am trying to hook my 200lx up to the =
internet through the company's PC's lan.  I've downloaded and set up =
mochappp.  Can someone set me in the right direction for setting up wwwlx =
to make it all work?  Ultimately, I just want to be able to use postlx to =
get email while at work.

 TIA,
 Larry

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Josi Angel de Castro Barco wrote:
> Someone knows a "unerase" files that work fine in the LX?.

I use Norton Utilities QU (Quick Unerase) from v.4.5.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:16:42 HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
> > PalEdit has built-in "database" functionalities. It is able to sort
> > records.
>
> Thanks. I know. But this is not what I need. I need it to be done
> automatically by my "nightly.bat" which runs every night at 2am.

Can PalEdit be driven via redirected input?
I've used this trick with Edlin to automate some powerful txt
modification tools. ...    PE < pecmds.txt

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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:02:23 +0100
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 04:41 PM
Subject: HP connectivity pack -Installation


| Can someone tell me how to install the HP connectivity pack to
Windows NT
| and Windows 95?

Quoting the manual:

Installing the Software
This software is not designed to be installed onto a network
drive.

To install the Connectivity Pack software onto your PC hard
disk:
1. Close all applications on your PC, inclUding Microsoft
Windows.
(To close Windows, select File Exit from the Program Manager
menu. Do NOTclick on the MS-DOS icon.) The MS-DOS prompt should
be present .
2.Insert Connectivity Pack disk #1 into the drive.
3. At the DOS prompt, type

a : Enter 1 (substitute your drive letter)
 inst.all  Enter

Follow the instructions on the screen to make selections and
insert disks. If you specify a different drive or directory,
record the drive letter and directory name here

Additional Set Up for Windows

Windows Setup is optional. If you do not setup in Windows, you
can run LapLink Remote Access, as well as Backup and the rest of
the Connectivity Pack, from DOS.

. Setup installs LapLink Remote Access for Windows.
, Setup provides Windows icons for the Connectivity Pack,
LapLink Remote Access, and the Backup feature,

 To set up icons and LapLink Remote Access in Windows:

You must first install the Connectivity Pack as in the previous
rocedure.

1. Start Windows.
2. From the Program Manager, select the commands File Run.
3. In the text box, enter c:\cpack200\setup (if you changed the
name of the directory, substitute it for cpack:
4. Click 011 OK.
5. Answer the questions posed on the screen.

To clean up your Inslall files:

. At the DOS prompt, from the Connectivity Pack directory (e.g.
PACK2OO), enter
cleanup enter
This deletes about 220 KB of files that are no longer needed.

About Using an HP OmniBook

You should not perform this Windows Setup on an OmniBook 300 or
425. However, any OmniBook can communicate with an HP 200LX
wiihOZli ihe Conneciiviiy Pack. yOU can communicate using
LapLink Remote Access and an infrared or cable connection.

End of quote, many more pages left, but I trust this will get
you started; enjoy

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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:44:02 +0200
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Hi Martin

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:21:06 -0800, "Martin G. Ramirez" <mramirez@LMU.EDU> wrote:

> I'd like to be able to use a DOS drawing program on my 200LX, and so, using
> a mouse, trackball or trackpad with it would be a real asset.  Is this
> do-able and if so, what's the best way to take care of this in terms of
> connectors, drivers, settings, etc?

Regarding mouse connectors and general tips about mice, see

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232

GTX
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Subject:      Re: Silicom ethernet card (was re: Megahertz Ethernet card)

On 12th Dec, Etienne Lemaire wrote:

<snip>

> - the Silicom Ethernet card doesn't work on the speed upgraded
> palmtop. The software just keeps reporting a memory error.
> Silicom's tech support hasno plans to write an updated driver.
> The power use of the Silicom card (60mA active) is much lower
> than any other card.

<snip>

I have a Silicom card, which is recognised fine, but when I plug it
into the network my 200LX turns itself off.  Am I asking to much of it
to run on battery power alone when connected to the network?

Stuart

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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:24:12 +0100
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I just noted that Sandisk has on it's website a 'Hot Buy' of a 160MB CF card
plus USB adapter for $99 - looks a good price to me. Add a $10 PCcard
adapter and no more xchange problems between 200LX and PC

Michel

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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:10:56 +0100
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
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Shoudn't you:
a) write SET TZ=
b)for Spain UTC-1?

So :
SET TZ=UTC-1

HTH
Etienne

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From: "Josi Angel de Castro Barco" <castrobarco@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:33 AM
Subject: Going Postal: how set Local Time


| I use Going Postal and in my autoexec.bat I set:
|
| SET TIMEZONE=UTC+1 (I live in Spain).
|
| but, in Going Postal, the status screen, says:
|
| Local Time: EST
|
| whow is wrong.
|
| Somenone knows how to change these set?.
|
| Thanks.
|
|
|
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| Josi Angel de Castro                      Tno: 34 983 30 34 42
| C/S.Lorenzo,1-3:B
| 47001 VALLADOLID (SPAIN)
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Hi Stuart

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:08:30 +0000, Stuart Gray <srtgray@CLARA.CO.UK> wrote:

> I have a Silicom card, which is recognised fine, but when I plug it
> into the network my 200LX turns itself off.  Am I asking to much of it
> to run on battery power alone when connected to the network?

Yes, this is the most likely reason for the palmtop to switch off.
Have you tried on different networks?

I don't know the exact Ethernet specification, but maybe if you connect
to an Ethernet with the next node very close to you, the palmtop
doesn't have to provide so much power to make the signals appear at the
next node.
Or maybe connect to a hub first.

GTX
daniel



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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:42:22 -0600
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Keith Grider <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> Is there a file manager type program such as Norton Commander which
> does FTP as well which runs on the palmtop? Command line ftp is too
> painful for me. Super lists lxftp and ftp08 (add on to wwwlx).
> Midnight commander does FTP, but I do not know if there is a DOS
> version readily stripped down for the palmtop. any hints? A PAL
> program which looks like 'filer' would be great if it existed... Any
> takers?

You are in luck.  The program you want is LXgFTP, a very nice PAL
implementation of LXFTP written by Mike Kopplin.  It doesn't look like
it is on SUPER, but you can get it here:

  http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxgftp/

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I am looking for DOS programs for my 200 LX that will run Seasonal Index and
Time Series calculations and quantitative analysis. Can anyone advise or
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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 21:41:59 +0700
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Is this the only good software to use for Mac users?  Where can I buy one?

Thanks of advice.


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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:19:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Bob Penick <bnj@MYREALBOX.COM>
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: Silicom ethernet card (was re: Megahertz Ethernet card)


> I have a Silicom card, which is recognised fine, but when I plug it
> into the network my 200LX turns itself off.  Am I asking to much of it
> to run on battery power alone when connected to the network?
>
> Stuart
>
Stuart, you didn't mention what type of connector your Silicom card uses.  I
ran a Silicom card off batteries with no problems before I got  a
doublespeed LX.   I seem to recall that the RJ45 10baseT connecter uses a
lot less power than the BNC / Coaxial connecter.  Could this be the problem?
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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:26:02 -0600
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Oh, if only this were a relevant concern nowadays.

Most people nowadays don't even know what "BNC" or "Coaxial" ARE nowadays.
To them, network connectors are "those phone plug looking thingees".
Period. "Token ring? What's that?" "Thin-net? Huh?" "Bee Enn See?...."
"Arcnet? What's that? Some TV station?"

Even assuming Stuart knows about BNC and Coax (which I will assume he
does, we're all smart and knowledgeable people on this list), chances are
almost nil that he would even be able to OBTAIN a card with anything
other than a 10BT/TP/RJ45 connector anywhere but on eBay... :/

                                                        --Jessica

                                (who laments the increasing state of
                                 computer-illiteracy in the US)

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Bob Penick wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart Gray" <
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Silicom ethernet card (was re: Megahertz Ethernet card)
>
>
> > I have a Silicom card, which is recognised fine, but when I plug it
> > into the network my 200LX turns itself off.  Am I asking to much of it
> > to run on battery power alone when connected to the network?
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> Stuart, you didn't mention what type of connector your Silicom card uses.  I
> ran a Silicom card off batteries with no problems before I got  a
> doublespeed LX.   I seem to recall that the RJ45 10baseT connecter uses a
> lot less power than the BNC / Coaxial connecter.  Could this be the problem?
> bob
>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>> PalEdit has built-in "database" functionalities. It is able
to sort
>> records.
>
> Thanks. I know. But this is not what I need. I need it to be
done
> automatically by my "nightly.bat" which runs every night at
2am.

Years ago at work I set up an overnight process that would run
bat file at a certain time and the bat file would run qedit,
loading a macro that caused it to load and process and save a
file.  Qedit's macro ability is both simple and powerful.  I
don't remember if the file got sorted or just what was done to
it but we used this for a few months till I found time to write
a program to do it.  It never failed.

Qedit after about version 3 does have sort capablity.  It
doesn't handle lines longer than 1000 bytes, though.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:28:37 +0100
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Hi list, from time to time when I charge my palmtop, it "hangs", repeatedly
starting and stopping charging (about every couple of seconds).

It happens both with the Setup utility and with the Charge-it! utility,
sometimes as soon as I start charging, sometimes after some minutes / hours of
charging. Pulling off the adaptor, exiting the System Manager and restarting
charging, generally solves the problem (please notice that the other
applications keep on working right).

The Palmtop is a Single Speed, the batteries are Ni-Mh 1100mAh, adaptor is a
1200mA 3-12V.

Anyone else noticed this before? Maybe it's just the batteries getting old
(although I didn't notice any drop of performance)? Or some serious hardware
damage is in progress?

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Hi:
I have a 200lx and a Kyocera smart phone(palm os), does anyone know of a way
to beam text back and forth?

Thanx

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Group,

I everything was working fine last night at home. Now, here at work, it is
acting weird. I can start a ftp server and transfer on the LAN, I can ping
on the LAN, I just cannot connect past the LAN. If I lxping a local address
192.168.1.1, I get an instant response. If I ping anything requiring a DNS
lookup, it gives me 4 responses of ICMP: Port unreachable then pings and
reports back 100% Does anyone have a clue here that can set me straight?
This happens with DHCP.exe and also just bootp (default).

Also, the environment space variable that everyone was talking about
recently. I could not load all of the SET variables when I ran ip-up.bat it
would not load the DNS entries until I changed the environment variable
setting. Odd.

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Hi friends,

can anyone please tell me where I can find the WINDI (7 language
dictionary) files (program installation and the language packages)?

Thanks a lot
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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:20:12 +0100
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You should have it by now....(mydocsonline)

Etienne
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| Hi friends,
|
| can anyone please tell me where I can find the WINDI (7
language
| dictionary) files (program installation and the language
packages)?
|
| Thanks a lot
| daniel
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Hi Mark

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:02:19 -0600, Mark Evans <vivovoyager@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> I have a 200lx and a Kyocera smart phone(palm os), does anyone know of a way
> to beam text back and forth?
>

Don'T know about PalmOS, but usually for such things the OBEX protocol
is used which is implemented in the free program IR.EXE available on
www.dasoft.com.

GTX
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Hi Etienne

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:20:12 +0100, "Etienne Lemaire" <etienne.lemaire@pandora.be> wrote:

> You should have it by now....(mydocsonline)

oh - that was fast! Thank you! ;-)

GTX
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Etienne Lemaire wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tralornik" <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
İ¨
> | Can someone tell me how to install the HP connectivity pack to
> | Windows NT and Windows 95?
>
> Quoting the manual:

The manual is referring to Windows 3.x - a couple adjustments needed for
4.x ("95/98/ME") or NT:

> To install the Connectivity Pack software onto your PC hard
> disk:
> 1. Close all applications on your PC, including Microsoft
> Windows.
> (To close Windows, select File Exit from the Program Manager menu. Do
> NOTclick on the MS-DOS icon.) The MS-DOS prompt should be present .

Can't exit to DOS that way in Win4x - instead, select Start, then Shut
Down, then Restart in MS-DOS Mode. You should exit to a DOS prompt; then
continue as described... May not be able to do this in NT - if not, try
rebooting, then hitting the F8 key as the machine begins to load, then
selecting "Command prompt only" from the menu, if it's offered. If not,
you'll have to try installing it from inside an MS-DOS window under NT. In
4.90 ("ME"), you may need a clean DOS boot disk.

> Additional Set Up for Windows
>
> Windows Setup is optional. If you do not setup in Windows, you
> can run LapLink Remote Access, as well as Backup and the rest of
> the Connectivity Pack, from DOS.
>
> . Setup installs LapLink Remote Access for Windows.
> , Setup provides Windows icons for the Connectivity Pack,
> LapLink Remote Access, and the Backup feature,
>
>  To set up icons and LapLink Remote Access in Windows:
>
> You must first install the Connectivity Pack as in the previous
> rocedure.
>
> 1. Start Windows.
> 2. From the Program Manager, select the commands File Run.

Again, that's Win3.x - in 4.x, select Start, then Run - then continue as
described...

Hope that helps avoid any confusion!

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Date:         Fri, 14 Dec 2001 04:39:13 -0500
Reply-To:     LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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I used to sync the HP 200LX and a Mac 7100 with MacLink Plus,
but after a while it did not work any more. Could not figure
out why.

Now that Apple has eliminated the serial port on the Mac, I do
not think that MacLink Plus will work at all. Have they come
out with an USB version?

I now transfer data between the palmtop and my Mac with a CF
card, mainly for back up. It works OK. DOS programs stored on the
Mac will still work on the palmtop when transferred. But
sometimes the directories and files have their attributes
changed.

Ka Tai


Montri Ma Bunyapamai wrote:

> Is this the only good software to use for Mac users?  Where can I buy =
one?
>
> Thanks of advice.
>
> Montri
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Jessica,

> Even assuming Stuart knows about BNC and Coax (which I will assume he

> does, we're all smart and knowledgeable people on this list),

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

> chances are
> almost nil that he would even be able to OBTAIN a card with anything
> other than a 10BT/TP/RJ45 connector anywhere but on eBay... :/
>
>

Yes, it was an eBay purchase.

--Jessica
>
>                                 (who laments the increasing state of
>                                  computer-illiteracy in the US)

Good job i'm in ol' England then... <g> İducking to avoid heavy objects
thrown across the pond¨

>
<snip>

> > Stuart, you didn't mention what type of connector your Silicom card
uses.  I
> > ran a Silicom card off batteries with no problems before I got  a
> > doublespeed LX.   I seem to recall that the RJ45 10baseT connecter
uses a
> > lot less power than the BNC / Coaxial connecter.  Could this be the
problem?
> > bob
> >
Bob,

The card has a dongle with both BNC connector and RJ-45 socket- we use
RJ-45 here.  I notice from the manual that there is a straight "PCMCIA
to RJ-45 plug" cable - did you use that one?  I wonder if the dongle is
causing the power drain?

Stuart

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Hi folks,

Slightly OT, but at the school where I teach we have problems with
students d/loading games and emulators from the 'net and storing the d'
loads in the c:\windows\spool\printers folder (which is normally hidden
from them, except that Win95/98 has lousy security).  I want to find a
way of automatically deleting the contents of that ddirectory (and any
others which they move to).  Is there any way to use DEL without
needing to confirm the deletion?  There isn't a /Y switch.  Is
modifying the AUTOEXEC.BAT file suitable, or should I be looking at
knocking up a small app and calling it from the AUTOEXEC?  You guys
know more about this kind of thing than most.

The network is based on WinNT4 server, with Win95/8 clients.

TIA
Stuart

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Stuart Gray wrote:

> needing to confirm the deletion?  There isn't a /Y switch.  Is
> modifying the AUTOEXEC.BAT file suitable, or should I be looking at
> knocking up a small app and calling it from the AUTOEXEC?  You guys
> know more about this kind of thing than most.

Win 9x comes with "deltree.exe", which does just what the name suggests,
and deletes a "tree" of subdirectories and all their files (although
deltree will delete single files as well, like regular del).

For example:

deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers\

Without /y, it will wait for confirmation before going ahead with the
deletion (no good in autoexec.bat). Without the trailing backslash, I
think it will delete the printers directory as well.

There should be no problems running this from autoexec.bat. The only
possible problem I can think of (not a problem in the directory above) is
if you try to delete a directory with a long filename (eg "c:\program
files\gamez\") from autoexec.bat. This will fail unless you use the short
DOS 8.3 filename instead (eg "c:\progra~1\gamez"), since the LFN functions
are not available until the GUI has loaded.


Cheers,

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It has been stated:
>>=A0Even assuming Stuart knows about BNC and Coax (which I will=
 assume
>>he=A0does, we're all smart and knowledgeable people on this=
 list),
>>=A0chances are =A0almost nil that he would even be able to OBTAIN=
 a
>>card with anything =A0other than a 10BT/TP/RJ45 connector=
 anywhere
>>but on eBay... :/
>
Hmm,

Some of the stores in my area have some really old stuff on the=
 shelves.
I'm betting the little computer shops in most any area are the=
 same.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:24:04 -0800
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I have been using nodelay regularly sense Steven explained that it needed
to be loaded BEFORE the system Manager (200).
Thanks Steven!!

I installed it into my autoexec on my PC card (the c:\autoexec does NOT
have it) and created an Icon to unload nodelay. All seems to work well
EXCEPT when I run a program that uses MaxDos. The screen will blank and the
palmtop locks up.  I have FSB, XTGold, Paldraw, Norton, and MaxDos itself
as separate Icons that load Maxdos then the specified program. Maxdos by
itself will sometimes load, but none of the others will. Sometimes a
ctrl-alt-del will reboot, other times it requires a 3 finger salute.

Any suggestions welcome.
please cc me as well as the list as I rx the digest!

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Hi All,

I too have started charging NiMH in a charger instead of in the LX since
I gotten a MH-C204F charger.  It's charged in less than 4 hours, i.e. start
charging when I got off work and is done before I go to bed.  Now I no
longer
have to tether my LX to the wall in the office.

Best Regards,
Alfred

-----Original Message-----
From: Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: How to set ABC/LX to charge this kind
of,Panasonic1000mAh,Ni-Cd?


>BTW. Although I'm using ABC/LX I've stopped charging my NiMHs
>in the Palmtop since I bought an NiCd/NiMH charger from Ansmann.
>The Ansmann charger gets a fuller charge into the batteries and I
>don't have to care about cutoff voltages, charge times etc. Once the
>green LED for a cell (it can charge 4 AA or AAA in parallel) stops
>blinking, the cell is fully charged. Period.
>
>Before anyone asks, the charger was quite expensive; around
>65 EUR with four 1650 mAh AA cells included.
>
>Ulrich Boche
>IT Security Technical Consultant
>IBM eServer Sales Technical Support (z/OS + e-Business Security)
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hi Cri,

on 13 Dec 2001 at 15:28 Cri wrote about:
Battery charging started / stopped / started / st

>
> Anyone else noticed this before? Maybe it's just the batteries
> getting old (although I didn't notice any drop of performance)? Or
> some serious hardware damage is in progress?
>
I noticed this when the contact of the AC Adapter plug was not good
and the connection to the Palmtop was lost for a moment. Try to
hold and wiggle the jack, maybe you can reproduce the malfunction.
It could also be a bad soldering inside the palmtop's 12V plug or a
broken wire in your AC Adapter.
A Multimeter could probably help you finding the problem.

cheers,
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:26:02 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> Oh, if only this were a relevant concern nowadays.
>
> Most people nowadays don't even know what "BNC" or "Coaxial" ARE nowadays.
> To them, network connectors are "those phone plug looking thingees".
> Period. "Token ring? What's that?" "Thin-net? Huh?" "Bee Enn See?...."
> "Arcnet? What's that? Some TV station?"

I used the round "connect thingy" on my En2216-2 card and it worked
just fine :-)

I have been told here on the list that you should not use coax because
of the power draw. I now use the "phoneconnector looking thingy" on my
EN2216-1 card. :-)

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              card)
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Hee!

Just to clarify, I was not insulting anyone on the list. Hardly. We're all
smart. I was just commenting that BECAUSE the vast majority of computer
users are awash in cowlike ignorance, it is hard nowadays to find anything
other than the latest AGP plug-n-pray Windows-only 256MB-RAM-requiring
crapola.

                                                        --Jessica


On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:26:02 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:
>
> > Oh, if only this were a relevant concern nowadays.
> >
> > Most people nowadays don't even know what "BNC" or "Coaxial" ARE nowadays.
> > To them, network connectors are "those phone plug looking thingees".
> > Period. "Token ring? What's that?" "Thin-net? Huh?" "Bee Enn See?...."
> > "Arcnet? What's that? Some TV station?"
>
> I used the round "connect thingy" on my En2216-2 card and it worked
> just fine :-)
>
> I have been told here on the list that you should not use coax because
> of the power draw. I now use the "phoneconnector looking thingy" on my
> EN2216-1 card. :-)
>
> Regards
>
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:06:02 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> Hee!
>
> Just to clarify, I was not insulting anyone on the list.

I know..:-)

> Hardly. We're all
> smart. I was just commenting that BECAUSE the vast majority of computer
> users are awash in cowlike ignorance, it is hard nowadays to find anything
> other than the latest AGP plug-n-pray Windows-only 256MB-RAM-requiring
> crapola.

I just replied because I have the same experience as you do..

Not insulted at all, you just got me lauging with your observations on
the subject :-)

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I think a lot of us old DOS/Unixheads will find this observation of mine
from the other day amusing:

The (d)evolution of the modern computer user:

Q: "Give me your opinion of your current operating system. Is it stable?
    Secure? Are there lots of applications available for it?"

1987: "DOS is pretty cool. I wish it had true multitasking and not just
       TSRs, but at least it is stable, and it does do a great job of
       staying out of my way when I program. Since DOS systems generally
       don't run any sort of daemon or server, they are nice and secure,
       and I appreciate that. As for application selection, who could
       want any more? There have to be thousands."

1990: "Windows 3.0 is pretty cool. I just wish there were more
       applications for it. Seems secure, if not stable. I wish it had
       pre-emptive multitasking."

1993: "I like Windows 3.1. It offers plenty of applications and has nifty
       multitasking so I can do more than one thing at a time. It's nice
       and secure too."

1995: "I like Windows 95. It crashes a lot though. It seems more complex,
       is it as secure as 3.1 was? Also, when will stuff get written for
       it instead of just for 3.1?"

1997: "I like Windows 95. There are billions of cool games for it, and
       nifty apps. OSR2 is pretty stable. What do you mean, "secure"?"

1999: "Microsoft Windows is kewl. I like all the games you can play, and
       nifty screen savers, and MP3s. What is "stable"? What is "secure"?"

2000: "I think I run Windows 98. It's cool. What's "stable?" What's
       "secure"? What are "applications"? Is that when you apply for a job
       like on the Internet?"

2001: "What's an operating system?"


                                                                --Jessica


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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:06:02 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:
>
> > Hee!
> >
> > Just to clarify, I was not insulting anyone on the list.
>
> I know..:-)
>
> > Hardly. We're all
> > smart. I was just commenting that BECAUSE the vast majority of computer
> > users are awash in cowlike ignorance, it is hard nowadays to find anything
> > other than the latest AGP plug-n-pray Windows-only 256MB-RAM-requiring
> > crapola.
>
> I just replied because I have the same experience as you do..
>
> Not insulted at all, you just got me lauging with your observations on
> the subject :-)
>
> Regards
>
> --
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Jessica Blank wrote:

> Hee!
>
> Just to clarify, I was not insulting anyone on the list. Hardly. We're all
> smart. I was just commenting that BECAUSE the vast majority of computer
> users are awash in cowlike ignorance, it is hard nowadays to find anything
> other than the latest AGP plug-n-pray Windows-only 256MB-RAM-requiring
> crapola.


Mmmmmmmmooooo.

:)

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check this out

http://www.zlcd.com/downloads/LRHDD101X.PDF

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I have heard there are versions of Power Basic that won't work on
the LX. I have version 3.5 and it seems to work fine. What versions
won't work besides the windows versions?

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The way I 'sync' is through lxtelnet running in server mode on the palmtop then
I ftp into the palmtop to transfer files. This requires a bit of storage space
on the palmtop and the use of an ethernet card.

Keith

I used to sync the HP 200LX and a Mac 7100 with MacLink Plus,
but after a while it did not work any more. Could not figure
out why.

Now that Apple has eliminated the serial port on the Mac, I do
not think that MacLink Plus will work at all. Have they come
out with an USB version?

I now transfer data between the palmtop and my Mac with a CF
card, mainly for back up. It works OK. DOS programs stored on the
Mac will still work on the palmtop when transferred. But
sometimes the directories and files have their attributes
changed.

Ka Tai


Montri Ma Bunyapamai wrote:

> Is this the only good software to use for Mac users?  Where can I buy =
one?
>
> Thanks of advice.
>
> Montri
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Actually, I believe there are ADB to USB adaptors from third-party
vendors, and (probably ridiculously overpriced) ADB PCI cards from Apple
themselves. Apple and its third-party "allies" KNEW damned well that
people had far too much invested in ADB (including DONGLES without which
certain VERY EXPENSIVE pieces of software would not work!) to drop it
without a trace.


                                                        --Jessica

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Keith Grider wrote:

> The way I 'sync' is through lxtelnet running in server mode on the palmtop then
> I ftp into the palmtop to transfer files. This requires a bit of storage space
> on the palmtop and the use of an ethernet card.
>
> Keith
>
> I used to sync the HP 200LX and a Mac 7100 with MacLink Plus,
> but after a while it did not work any more. Could not figure
> out why.
>
> Now that Apple has eliminated the serial port on the Mac, I do
> not think that MacLink Plus will work at all. Have they come
> out with an USB version?
>
> I now transfer data between the palmtop and my Mac with a CF
> card, mainly for back up. It works OK. DOS programs stored on the
> Mac will still work on the palmtop when transferred. But
> sometimes the directories and files have their attributes
> changed.
>
> Ka Tai
>
>
> Montri Ma Bunyapamai wrote:
>
> > Is this the only good software to use for Mac users?  Where can I buy =
> one?
> >
> > Thanks of advice.
> >
> > Montri
> >
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Hallo all,

since eBay Germany uses Euro, my eBay-digging doesn't work. Doen
anyone know the currency-tag for EUR? Without this tag, I get every
offer from all over the world.

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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On 14th December, Jessica Blank wrote:

>I think a lot of us old DOS/Unixheads will find this observation of mine
>from the other day amusing:
>
>The (d)evolution of the modern computer user:
>
>Q: "Give me your opinion of your current operating system. Is it stable?
>    Secure? Are there lots of applications available for it?"

LOL!  As a teacher of IT, I am constantly battling against ignorance in
computing.  My problem is, no-one I teach (11-18-yr-olds) has seen
anything other than Windows 95/98 (What's a "command line"?  What's a
"Macintosh"?  Linux?  OS/2??).  Still, I'm trying...

Stuart

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Hi All,

I am trying to get the Thaddeaus 56k modem to work with CC:Mail.  Thaddea=
us
includes a modem start up string with the modem which I have inserted int=
o
the d:_dat/hayes.mdm file and copied to c:\_dat.  =


But it doesn't work.  Not sure exactly where it should get plugged into
that file.  Any help would be most welcome!

Tom

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I have a Newton keyboard with case and software driver made my Shier with=

the custom cable.  Asking $45 plus shipping.  Pls contact me offline.
Tom

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Hi John,

I've never had any trouble with Power Basic on the 100/200LX, and
I've used just about every version from 1.x (when it was Turbo
Basic). All ran just fine for me.

Regards,

Larry Feldman

On 14 Dec 2001 at 18:57, John Musielewicz wrote:

>
> I have heard there are versions of Power Basic that won't work on the
> LX. I have version 3.5 and it seems to work fine. What versions won't
> work besides the windows versions?
>
> John
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My previous post may not have had enough information.

I know there are people on the list that are interested in trying to
modify/upgrade the 200lx. This is a site that sells LCD's that MAY be
appropriate to try retrofitting to the 200lx. Also they seem to be
available.

http://www.earthlcd.com/character.htm

Data sheet for one of the Items
>http://www.zlcd.com/downloads/LRHDD101X.PDF

Sorry for any confusion

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I just accidently created an invisable appointment.

Create an Appointment with a single space for the description
and no start/end time.  The only way I noticed I had created
something was in the Month view I saw a lone 'x'.  When I went
to Day view I couldn't SEE it but I could delete it.

Since this is just a space waster and can go noticed if you
don't catch the 'x' maybe this situation should be looked for by
DBcheck?  Not to correct but just to notify you so you can
delete it.

Comments?

Cheers... Russ

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Cri writes:
> Hi list, from time to time when I charge my palmtop, it "hangs", repeatedly
> starting and stopping charging (about every couple of seconds).
>
>
> Anyone else noticed this before? Maybe it's just the batteries getting old
> (although I didn't notice any drop of performance)? Or some serious hardware
> damage is in progress?

Sounds like your adaptor is not gettingpower thru to your palmtop consistently
The most likely problem is a bad connection between the plug on the adaptor
and the socket in the palmtop. To test this go into Setup while plugged in to
the adaptor and make sure that the power source indicated is always "adaptor"
Then try playing with the cable/plug to see if it switches to battery. This
wasy you can see if you have a reliable connection.

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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Cri wrote:

> Hi list, from time to time when I charge my palmtop, it "hangs",
> repeatedly starting and stopping charging (about every couple of
> seconds).

That happened to me for a while.  Turned out to be a bad adapter; my
problem was actually in the adapter's wire itself, down by where it came
out of the adapter case itself.

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thomas e. nemeth wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to get the Thaddeaus 56k modem to work with CC:Mail.  Thaddeaus
> includes a modem start up string with the modem which I have inserted into
> the d:_dat/hayes.mdm file and copied to c:\_dat.
> But it doesn't work.  Not sure exactly where it should get plugged into
> that file.  Any help would be most welcome!

I'm not familiar with cc:Mail. My init string in POST/LX for the
Thaddeus modem is simply AT&F

Trying to standardize different types of modems has caused me to be as
simple as possible :)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Stuart Gray wrote:
> LOL!  As a teacher of IT, I am constantly battling against
> ignorance in computing.  My problem is, no-one I teach
> (11-18-yr-olds) has seen anything other than Windows
> 95/98 (What's a "command line"?  What's a "Macintosh"?
>  Linux?  OS/2??).  Still, I'm trying...

Before I retired the company I worked for hired a lot of people
with IT degrees and and some with computer science degrees.  A
lot of those who went into programming worked with me on various
projects and a lot of those on other projects had to interface
their projects with mine.  So I got to know them pretty well.
They didn't know much but they were sharp people.  The company
chose carefully.

The thing that I found most amazing was they had no slightest
ideal how computers worked.  They had no training on any aspect
of low level programming and none had explored on their own.  So
they had no way to solve problems and debug other than by
getting help from older programmers (aka dinosaurs), which they
didn't like to do, or guessing.

What happened with the better ones was that they learned the
ways of the computer like a zoologist might learn the ways of an
animal.  As a result they became remarkably good at guessing.

Some problems couldn't be solved by even the best guessing so if
they didn't ask for help they would abandon their work and do it
a different way.  But they even did that quickly and efficiently
because they were always prepared for that.

They got the job done without any real knowlege of how computers
work.

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Ok, I decided to wade into this also... First, I want to say that I am a complete idiot when it comes to networking and a=
ll that (and also other topics, but that is another thread <G>...) so hammering terms is not useful.

There were a few posts in November and Tomas Moberg posted that he uses it all the time and even posted details of the se=
tup  (repeated below) but I question what he posted - see questions below.

---- From Tomas' post 29 November 2001 ----

I use this every day. Its easy and nice to use to share Your LAN with
Your hp200lx via the serial port. Part of my www.cfg looks like this:

..
İSetup¨
PPP=3DPPP
..

İScript¨
PPP=3DPPP
..

İPPP¨
s=3D\r

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>> The above fits a script  but what's below does not

Port=3D1
OmniGo=3D0
PPP=3D1
Modem=3D0
Baud=3D38400
My_IP=3D
DNS_IP=3D
DNS2_IP=3D
Script=3DPPP
Password=3D

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>>  The above fits the Connection entry - but aren't signficant pieces missing? Such as IP numbers?=
 Also using the identical name for the SETUP (Connection) name and Script name is confusing...

I appreciate this beginning, but perhaps Tomas Moberg, David Becher, or Yves can provide more complete setup information?=
 (I believe one or more of these gentleman had the communication running with WWW/LX).

Second issue: Where exactly do you run the mochaPPP software? Their webpage is EXTREMELY cagey about giving this informat=
ion up. When I was done reading it, I assumed that it must run on the comuter to which yo connect. IOW: If I connect to a=
 Windows machine, then I run mochaPPP on that machine, and connect the Palmtop to the Win machine via a serial cable.

Is this true? I assumed that because there is NO version of mochaPPP that runs on the Palmtop. I found nothing that state=
d that on the website for mochaPPP.

Third: With mochaPPP THERE IS NO NEEd to have a mochaPPP running ALSO on the Palmtop - correct? IOW, just run it on one m=
achine, the one that you want to use to connect THROUGH.

Fourth: How does the Windows machine see the Palmtop? Can it see its drives?

Fifth: Can the Palmtop be operated from its own keyboard, or am I confined to using the Win machine keyboard?

Anyway, just my first questions to start you all going. From what I am concluding of this software it may be one of the m=
ore interesting items around. But I am not sure, because the material I read so far on the website is almost a riddle. Wh=
at I read here assumes a lot about what the reader knows and I am waaaay below that in my own knowledge, so I am not sure=
 if my conclusions are valid at all. I wonder if I am alone here with less than basic knowledge of networking. If not, ma=
ybe the "community brain" here could be swayed to make the topic less mysterious by providing tutorial level information =
and answers?

If you do not want to be identified as the source of the tutorials, you can send the info to me in private, designating i=
t as private, and I'll repost it without the name and so on...

and I'll use Al's invention:   aTdHvAaNcKeS  (cute way to say "Thanks in advance)

Avi

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Joseph Buford wrote:

> All seems to work well EXCEPT when I run a program that
> uses MaxDos. The screen will blank and the palmtop locks up.

I don't know, how maxdos works, but most likely it frees
most of the available memory thereby cutting the chain
of TSR-CardDRV-DOSDATA. Nothing one can do against from
the application level.

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Avi,

 I too, am confused.  I assume that mochappp works similiar to PassThru32,=
 which I have used to connect to the internet through my home PC's modem. =
 The program runs on the PC; the 200lx hooks up to the PC through a =
serial cable; and wwwlx on the 200lx works as normal, dialing up and =
connecting through the PC's modem.
 I set mochapp up the same way. Loaded on my company's PC, 200lx connected=
 by serial cable, and then tried to connect with wwwlx.  The symbols on =
the mochappp screen indicates that the 200lx is indeed connecting through =
mochappp!  But then it (wwwlx) times out because I don't have the setup =
right.
 I need help understanding how to setup wwwlx for accessing the PC's lan. =
 Under wwwsetup, what setup and script are needed. What do I put in for =
the "phone number", login, and password?  Is there another software that =
I need on the 200lx to make all this work?
 I'm really excited about getting this to work, it would be so cool to be =
able to get my postlx to run at work instead of waiting till coming home =
to hook up.

Larry

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Le Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:54:32 +0100
Etienne Lemaire <etienne=2Elemaire@PANDORA=2EBE> a =E9crit:

> My mail program on the 200LX is Goin'POstal, and I can collect
> (or send) most messages without trouble as long as as they do
> not exceed 2 or 3KB=2E

Etienne, I just return from Bruxelles, where I passed a few days=2E
(Too bad, I just read your message today=2E I could have made some other
tests=2E=2E=2E :-( )

I used heavily my DS HP200LX to send/receive mail with Goin'postal
without any problem=2E

I have an Ericsson R320s, and use the AT&F init string=2E

Some of the times, I used my Bouygues Telecom subscription, which
permitted me to roam through most of yours GSM providers (I think I
connected mainly through Orange and Proximus, but I think I used all
networks)=2E=20

I also used a PrePay Orange card, without any problem, except the fact
that when the card was almost empty, I cannot connect, because Orange
sent a very long vocal message (asking to recharge the card before it
was empty) which caused GP to abort=2E=2E=2E




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Found a 95 LX being auctioned at
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Currently $15, ends 21st

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hi Josef,

On 15 Dec 2001 at 9:01, Joseph Buford wrote:

> My previous post may not have had enough information.

I looked at the mentioned page and saw a lot of interesting drawings.
>
> I know there are people on the list that are interested in trying to
> modify/upgrade the 200lx. This is a site that sells LCD's that MAY be
> appropriate to try retrofitting to the 200lx. Also they seem to be
> available.

do they have backlight ???
>
(my eyes are starting to glow when I imagine to have a backlight in
my HP)

cheers,
Werner

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If your eyes glow with sufficient brightness, I think you'll find a
backlight redundant. <g> Sorry, I couldn't resist the temptation.

Larry Mittell.

At 01:50 PM 12/16/2001, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>(my eyes are starting to glow when I imagine to have a backlight in
>my HP)

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Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:26:53 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

  I tired a few times to get this running, but never got it to connect
  according to the MPPP dialog window...but I can clear up a few points
  as I did have this working at my last visit to the "Dark
  Side"(TRGPro):

  - MochaPPP runs on a Windows box.

  - MochaPPP is a pass thru that uses the network connection provided
  by the WinBox. LX is connected thru serial port

  - only your TCP/IP stack & clients run on the LX.

  - The windows machine only sees the LX connection...not sure you
  could run an FTP server on the LX(MochaSoft WWW site implies you
  can't)

  - YES! LX behaves as just as if it was connected to a MODEM or NIC

  - "aTdHvAaNnKcSe" was stolen by me with the permission of the author,
  so I can't claim it as my creation ;-)

  Cheers...AJKind

  PS: once out about 50 tries, I did some bytes transferred to MPPP, but
  I never got a connection. I would love to see a "DUMMIES GUIDE TO
  MPPP and the LX" ;-)



06h13m58s ago ...
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Ok, I decided to wade into this also... First, I want to say that I am a complete idiot when it comes to networking and a
> ll that (and also other topics, but that is another thread <G>...) so
> hammering terms is not useful...

> Second issue: Where exactly do you run the mochaPPP software? Their
> webpage is EXTREMELY cagey about giving this information...

> Third: With mochaPPP THERE IS NO NEEd to have a mochaPPP running ALSO
> on the Palmtop - correct?

> Fourth: How does the Windows machine see the Palmtop? Can it see its
> drives?

> Fifth: Can the Palmtop be operated from its own keyboard, or am I
> confined to using the Win machine keyboard?

> and I'll use Al's invention: aTdHvAaNcKeS (cute way to say "Thanks in
> advance)


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From our Nathalie :)

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Hi List,

Some advice appreciated where to find for a DOS unerase
utility (palmtop.net ?). Want to try to recover a SYSTEM.DAT
and USER.DAT for a friend whose machine (W98) is blown up. He
is depending on it for his living.

I already search for it on Web but some advice from you guys
is always worthful.

Harry WELLNER

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Avi, Al and Larry,

I have been using MochaPPP quite happily for some time now.  This is
how I have it set up:

1. Download MochaPPP (mppp.zip) to your WinXX machine
2. Unzip and run setup.
3. Run Mochasoft PPP on your windows machine
4. Enter Configuration
5. Ensure the Windows CE radio button is selected
6. Under "Serial Port", choose the serial port through which the HP will
connect to the WinXX machine (in my case Com1)
7. Under baud rate choose the speed at which the HP will connect
(choose something conservative to start with like 38400 baud)
8. That's it for MochaPPP

On the HP:
1. Run WWWSetup
2. Select ADD (setup)
3. Select External
4. Uncheck the Modem check box
5. Select the same baud rate as above (if you followed my recomendation
that would be 38400)
6. Select the PPP radiio button
7. Leave Modem Init blank
8. Leave Dial blank
9. Leave Login blank
10. Leave Password blank
11. IP should be 0.0.0.0
12. DNS and Alternate DNS should both be 0.0.0.0
13. Dialing Script should be Direct_Script (which I believe comes with
WWW/LX preinstalled)
14. Select the newly created Setup and make it the Default
15. For some reason I get a message at this point telling me to create
the script "Direct_Script" even though I already have one (albeit a
very simple one - see below).  I ignore this and plow on.

To Connect:
1. Run MochaPPP on the windows machine
2. Run POSTLX
3. Press F5 (Connect)
4. Pray!

Below I have listed the relevant sections from my www.cfg.  Please
write to me if you have any questions.  I also use this quite happily
over IRDA on a desktop machine with an external IR dongle.  I love seeing
the Windows IRDA stack telling me it is communicating with a HP200LX!

Cheers

Mark

from www.cfg:

İDirect_Script¨
@=3

İDirect¨
Port=1
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=0
Baud=38400
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
Script=Direct_Script
Login=
ModemInit=
Dial=
Password=


> Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:26:53 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>   I tired a few times to get this running, but never got it to connect
>   according to the MPPP dialog window...but I can clear up a few points
>   as I did have this working at my last visit to the "Dark
>   Side"(TRGPro):
>
>   - MochaPPP runs on a Windows box.
>
>   - MochaPPP is a pass thru that uses the network connection provided
>   by the WinBox. LX is connected thru serial port
>
>   - only your TCP/IP stack & clients run on the LX.
>
>   - The windows machine only sees the LX connection...not sure you
>   could run an FTP server on the LX(MochaSoft WWW site implies you
>   can't)
>
>   - YES! LX behaves as just as if it was connected to a MODEM or NIC
>
>   - "aTdHvAaNnKcSe" was stolen by me with the permission of the author,
>   so I can't claim it as my creation ;-)
>
>   Cheers...AJKind
>
>   PS: once out about 50 tries, I did some bytes transferred to MPPP, but
>   I never got a connection. I would love to see a "DUMMIES GUIDE TO
>   MPPP and the LX" ;-)

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Hello!

One month ago, I bought a mobile phone Motorola
TimePort 250 with IrDA.

I tried the POST/LX (release 2.2.g with WWW 2.1e)
e-mail through IrDA. It took me less than five minutes
to set the appropriate configuration (Port=-1) and,
voil`!, everything works fine.

I had been less lucky when trying to transfer phone
numbers from my GSM phone to my palmtop, with
PHONE.SCR and SAGPHONE.SCR (included in SMS.ZIP) used
with ROBOT (release 1.8).

After entering the commands

WWW -d !command.com
ROBOT "PHONE get me list.txt"

I had a time out error message:

Talking with "Timeport"...
IrDA connnection established 538400 baud).

GOT )AT+CPBS="me"
ERROR
(
***ERROR***
Time out

I had the following detail with the -2 debugging
option:

SEND AT+CPBS="me"
PROCESS wait 5 OK

GOT )AT+CPBS="me"
ERROR
(
***ERROR***
Time out

I tried then a longer delay, wait 15 OK, but with the
same result.

What s wrong? Any idea? Thanks for your help.

Best regards,


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rei_vilo@yahoo.fr


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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Harry Wellner wrote:

> Some advice appreciated where to find for a DOS unerase
> utility (palmtop.net ?). Want to try to recover a SYSTEM.DAT
> and USER.DAT for a friend whose machine (W98) is blown up. He
> is depending on it for his living.

A word of caution. Windows 98 uses FAT-32 (by default anyway). Unerase
utilities for DOS will be expecting a FAT-16 filesystem and are *not*
compatible with FAT-32. They do not know how to handle the FAT-32 system
and can do more harm than good. If you're getting an unerase utility, make
sure it's compatible with Win 98 or FAT-32.

As an alternative to restoring SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT, Windows keeps
backup copies, SYSTEM.DA0 and USER.DA0, so you could use them if they
exist.


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Hi friends,

I have found a very strong (and I hope durable) glue to fix the hinge
crack.
It is called "Sachsenkleber" (I think in English this should be "Saxon
glue" ;-) ). It is only made and available in Dresden, Germany. Dresden is a
Saxon city, hence the name. ;-)

You can order Sachsenkleber at http://www.sachsenkleber.de
It is an industrial glue, actually not available in shops, hence very
expensive, but it works. I have applied a few drops of Sachsenkleber to
my almost entirely broken hinge, prying it a little bit more apart with
a screwdriver, so that a little bit of the fluid gets into the gap.
Then the crack has to be pressed together for some minutes.

The superfluous glue which pours out of the gap when pressing doesn't
become hard yet, it is like superglue.

If it's enough pressed, you can sprinkle a little bit of another
component of Sachsenkleber onto this superfluous fluid. This component
is a kind of powder and lets the glue bubble on the crack become hard.
Very hard. EXTREMELY hard! ;-) So you don't just glue the crack
together again, but in addition you create a second layer of material
over the crack, which helps holding it together. Looks ugly, I admit.
But this may even prevent potential thefts from stelaing the LX. And I
really don't worry about the look of the case.

The Sachsenkleber is a kind of Cyan Acrylate glue, like some two
component glues. Not the Epoxy kind of glue. I think Epoxy is not hard
nough for this job (although it may also be worth a try).

I use my LX daily opening and closing it approximately 5-10 times per
day, sometimes much more.
And since one week this fixed hinge crack is as solid again as it has
never been there.

Oh, there is also an English version of the Sachsenkleber homepage at
www.sachsenkleber.de (click on the English flag) with all technical
details of this kind of glue. So it should be possible to find a
similar product in other countries.

GTX
daniel


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> Sounds like your adaptor is not gettingpower thru to your palmtop consistently

It turned out to be a bad adaptor cable (not that bad though, giving it a half
twist put things back to work).

Thanks to everyone.

Cri

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I run Mochasoft ppp all the time using a modified version of LXTCP to
download my email etc. Here are the details:

1. The software is called Mocha W32 PPP and is available from
www.mochasoft.dk as shareware.

2. You install it on a Windoze machine (I have installed and run it on machines
running Win95, Win98, WinMe, and WinNt4)

3. It provides a "pass through" gateway (I am not really sure of the technical
term) between a TCP/IP stack running on another PC connected via the serial
port. This means that you can run Mochasoft on a desktop PC  and and LXTCP or
WWWW/LX on your palmtop, and instead of a modem connected to your serial port
you connect the HPLX to  the desktop machine running MochaSoft.

4.Setup:
In my case I am using a single speed Hp200LX running a modified LXTCP

A) On the Windoze machine:
- Install Mochasoft
- On the configuration page set "Windows CE", and the comm port and Baud rate
 (for a single speed Hp200LX I use 19200)
- Once you start it up, it sits there waiting for you HP200LX to start a connection.

B) On the HPLX
-The following is my chat script for connecting to mochasoft:

ECHO ON
TIMEOUT 120
'' CLIENT

-the following is my pppd.cfg for mochasoft:

local
crtscts
asyncmap 0

I also have the namserver set to the nameserver of the local network


5.That is it. I found it easy to connect. The only problem (and it was a big one) is a "bug" in Mochasoft/LXTCP or actually in Mochasoft/WATTCP (the TCP stack on which LXTCP is based). When resolving a host name, WATTCP
automatically adds the domain name, so if you are trying to connect to
"yahoo.com" and your domain is "dasoft.com", WATTCP will first try to connect
to "yahoo.com.dasoft.com". Only when this fails will it try again without
the domain name. Unfortunately there is a bug in Mochasoft that it ALWAYS
returns an IP address even if it cannot resolve the name correctly. So then
what happens is that the host returned by a DNS resolution rejects your
messages. I fixed this by modifiying WATTCP to suit my needs, and rebuilding
the LXTCP suite with this modification. I have written to Erick Engele (the
Wattcp author) and he states that Wattcp works according to protocol. I have
written to Mochasoft and they say they will fix their software in the next
release if and when it comes about (!!)

I hope I have made myself clear. Any questions -feel free to ask. I have not
made the modified LXTCP suite available as I have not had the time to package
it set up web page for downloads etc etc. If there is a demand for this I will
try to find the time to do it....



I hope this has helped


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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:41:16 -0500
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Group,

Has anyone tweaked PNR 3.5 to get it to put other fields from the CFG file
into the header of certain posts. Here is what I am trying to do: I want
email sent from PNR to have my proper username and ID (user= and name=
fields in the pnr.cfg file). When I send NNTP messages, I want my user to be
user=no_one and name=KeithG. I can do this with a batch file using 2
different versions of the pnr.cfg file and renaming as I need. This is a bit
cumbersome, though. Is there a better way? Can it be done through lxmta or
preferably through pnr? For someone with a compiler and a little programming
knowledge, it should be a fairly easy thing, shouldn't it?

Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:15:38 -0700
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From:         "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Request for a DOS unerase/recover utility
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Harry Wellner wrote:
>
> > Some advice appreciated where to find for a DOS unerase
> > utility (palmtop.net ?). Want to try to recover a SYSTEM.DAT
> > and USER.DAT for a friend whose machine (W98) is blown up. He
> > is depending on it for his living.
>
> A word of caution. Windows 98 uses FAT-32 (by default anyway). Unerase
> utilities for DOS will be expecting a FAT-16 filesystem and are *not*
> compatible with FAT-32. They do not know how to handle the FAT-32 system
> and can do more harm than good. If you're getting an unerase utility, make
> sure it's compatible with Win 98 or FAT-32.

1. Norton unerase

system.dat and user.dat are 8x3 file names so no worry about
long file names. I use the DOS unerase.exe in W9x Norton
utilities running off a floppy. It can handle FAT32 but will
truncate long file names. Whatever you do, DO NOT boot
windows, do not copy files to/on the hard drive. Backing up
registry files could cause problems. Booting to DOS is OK,
but don't write to the HD.

2. Scanreg from DOS

I would archive/backup the entire hard drive with ghost or
ezi etc. Running scanreg.exe will sometimes allow recovery
of previously saved registries. If data is critical, I would
only do this when I knew I could restore to original from an
image.

3. Data recovery

Even if one cannot boot windows, data can still be recovered
with long file names if you know where data is stored. I use
a utility from ITS-Systems that allows me to boot to DOS
accsssing long file names.

Bob


>
> As an alternative to restoring SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT, Windows keeps
> backup copies, SYSTEM.DA0 and USER.DA0, so you could use them if they
> exist.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:26:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Keith Grider <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I was looking through the source and it looks like a simple change to int.c
(to add news.name and news.user) and a small alteration to post.c to accept
these new variables (There needs to be a couple of if statements added to
put the correct information in for an email post versus an article post.).
Will anyone here work with me on this? I do not have a compiler for DOS
programs. I could send the modified files. No-one seems to have taken this
up from Rod. Is this a program which is not used as much? I tend to like how
it operates a bit better than postlx, but that is me...

Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:55:20 +0100
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Avi,

Indeed MochaPPP is a very usefull piece of software if you want to allow
your HP200LX to share an open internet connection on the desktop. It runs =
on
the desktop. It allows POST/LX running on the HP200LX to send and retrieve
mail while you surf the net or do your online banking on the desktop. All
this with a single phone line.

The physical connection is easy as you don't have to replace your flash =
card
with a modem or network card, you simply plug in the serial cable between =
th
e HP and the desktop and voil=E0.

In MS Internet Explorer (or Netscape) you have the option to open multiple
windows sharing the same connection while browsing the net. MochaPPP is a =
bit
like one of those windows which is exploited by the HP200LX via the =
serial
cable.

My WWW.CFG contains the following lines. You will see that I use a =
frequency
of 38400 bauds, you should define the same in MochaPPP. Also do select
WindowsCE (not PalmPilot) in MochaPPP to allow the connection.

The procedure to connect is as follows :
On the desktop:
 1. Connect the HP to the Desktop via the serial cable
 2. Launch your favorite browser on the Desktop (e.g.MS Internet Explorer)
    (it will automatically dial the phone and open an Internet connection)
 3. Launch MochaPPP (it will plug itself in the open Internet connection)
On the HP:
 4. Launch Post/LX with the MochaPPP www.cfg inserted
 5. Ask Post/LX to retrieve the mail as you would do usually (F5)
 6. When you have finished you can close MS Internet Explorer which will =
hang
    up the phone and close all Internet connections.

Enjoy,

 \/
 /ves


İGlobal¨
Command=3DC:\WWW\HV.EXE
Cache=3DC:\_DAT\WWW.CAC
Hosts=3DC:\_DAT\HOSTS
Setup=3DMochaPPP
....

İScript¨
DirPPP_Script=3DDirect PPP Connection
....

İDirPPP_Script¨
e=3DStarting PPP
s=3DPPP\r
....
İMochaPPP¨
s=3D\r
Port=3D1
OmniGo=3D1
PPP=3D1
Modem=3D0
Baud=3D38400
My_IP=3D       (those lines are empty and should remain so)
DNS_IP=3D      (those lines are empty and should remain so)
DNS2_IP=3D     (those lines are empty and should remain so)
Script=3DDirPPP_Script
Dial=3D        (those lines are empty and should remain so)







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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:05:39 -0700
Reply-To:     "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I've been using nodelay in a 3-session Software Carousel
setup. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. Haven't
tried to document the combination or sequence of operations,
but sometimes when I switch to a DOS session and read a:\
and then back to Filer, I get a delay.

Anyone figure out 100% no delay all the time? I'm booting
nodelay before I boot carousel.

Bob
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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:28:50 -0700
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For people with new backup machines in their closets; and,
for people with new Thaddeus cracked hinge repairs; and,
for people interested in maximizing LX hinge longevity...

Past hinge lube discussions findings indicate
  WD-40 may be dangerous -- disintegrating hinges
  Mineral seems OK

Is mineral oil the same as light machine oil?
Any new hinge lube findings?

Commenting on the below text...

I've been running with the floppy screen for about a year.
Haven't had connector problems that I'm aware of yet. The hinge
mechanism remains concentric, minimizing connector problems as I
see it. A tighter screen would however be a nicer situation.

Bob

DAVID H MARSHALL wrote:
>
> Robert, you might want to do something soon! My screen flopped for a week,
> then the tiny ribbon connector, on left hand side,  that carries power/info
> to screen got damaged  and my palmtop was history!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>
> > If you can stand the loose hinge, you may be less likely to
> > have the hinge crack problem. I've been using my LX for
> > about a year with a disintegrated hinge. In other words, the
> > screen flops. I support the lid with my E&B case. Anyway, no
> > hinge tension, no hinge crack! One of these days I may have
> > Thaddeus fix it.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Questor Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the best way to fix the latch and to
> > > tighten the hinge on a 100LX/200LX?
> > >

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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:40:35 -0500
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Hello All,

I read on the page below that placing tape over the crack first, then using
an exacto knife to cut away a small slit where the glue can be applied will
substancially reduce the scarring of the glue... Once glue is applied, you
remove the tape (before it dries) and so the glue is only left where the
slit was made.

See link (step 4 to be precise):

http://www.hplx.net/hardware.hinge.html

For more info.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Hinge Crack Fix


> Hi friends,
>
> I have found a very strong (and I hope durable) glue to fix the hinge
> crack.
> It is called "Sachsenkleber" (I think in English this should be "Saxon
> glue" ;-) ). It is only made and available in Dresden, Germany. Dresden is
a
> Saxon city, hence the name. ;-)
>
> You can order Sachsenkleber at http://www.sachsenkleber.de
> It is an industrial glue, actually not available in shops, hence very
> expensive, but it works. I have applied a few drops of Sachsenkleber to
> my almost entirely broken hinge, prying it a little bit more apart with
> a screwdriver, so that a little bit of the fluid gets into the gap.
> Then the crack has to be pressed together for some minutes.
>
> The superfluous glue which pours out of the gap when pressing doesn't
> become hard yet, it is like superglue.
>
> If it's enough pressed, you can sprinkle a little bit of another
> component of Sachsenkleber onto this superfluous fluid. This component
> is a kind of powder and lets the glue bubble on the crack become hard.
> Very hard. EXTREMELY hard! ;-) So you don't just glue the crack
> together again, but in addition you create a second layer of material
> over the crack, which helps holding it together. Looks ugly, I admit.
> But this may even prevent potential thefts from stelaing the LX. And I
> really don't worry about the look of the case.
>
> The Sachsenkleber is a kind of Cyan Acrylate glue, like some two
> component glues. Not the Epoxy kind of glue. I think Epoxy is not hard
> nough for this job (although it may also be worth a try).
>
> I use my LX daily opening and closing it approximately 5-10 times per
> day, sometimes much more.
> And since one week this fixed hinge crack is as solid again as it has
> never been there.
>
> Oh, there is also an English version of the Sachsenkleber homepage at
> www.sachsenkleber.de (click on the English flag) with all technical
> details of this kind of glue. So it should be possible to find a
> similar product in other countries.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:05:05 -0500
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I currently use Mac Link Plus on a Powerbook G3 running 9.0.4.  I do
have to use a serial to USB adapter by Microtech in order to transfer
data.  The process continues to work well.  Utilizing the files on the
Mac does take some work.  I really just use Mac Link to backup my
palmtop and store the DOS files.  Dataviz no longer makes the Mac Link
Software.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2001 04:21:57 +0000
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Mark,

That is just what I needed!  My wwwlx3.0 did not have the direct script =
but when I looked at the www.cfg for version 2.0, I found it.  Tomorrow =
at work, I'll try this setup and see if I can get it to work.

Thanks, Larry

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Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:26:53 -0500
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There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.

The 200LX is intrgral to the article.

In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
using his 200LX, until something better comes along.

M Stocker

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Hello!

After sending and reading my e-mail with the HPLX
using the Motorola Timeport 250 through IrDA, I
realised that some files were corrupted on the C:
drive.

1. May this be caused by electromagnetic interferences
from the mobile phone?

2. My HPLX is a 2 MB turned 6 MB: are extended HPLX
more prone to EMI?

Luckilly enough, I had a full archive of the files so
I could restore the damage files :-)

I read the pages from Daniel Hertrich,
(www.daniel-hertrich.de), about HPLX and EMI and
possible solutions. But the problem is, if the mobile
is more than 20 cm away from the HPLX, the IrDA
connection does not work so well ; putting the mobile
closer to the HPLX seems to increase the risks of EMI.

Have you experienced similar problems with the
Timeport? What solutions have you experienced?

Best regards,


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I would love to read this article! Could you post it (or an URL of it, or
a URL of scans of the actual pages) to the list?

                                                        --Jessica


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-----------------------------------------
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:

> There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
>
> The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
>
> In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
> using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
>
> M Stocker
>
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Keith Grider writes:
> Has anyone tweaked PNR 3.5 to get it to put other fields from the CFG file
> into the header of certain posts. Here is what I am trying to do: I want
> email sent from PNR to have my proper username and ID (user= and name=
> fields in the pnr.cfg file). When I send NNTP messages, I want my user to be
> user=no_one and name=KeithG.

I think that this would be easy to do. Could you explain why you do this?
--
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Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:58:39 -0700
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If a link does not show up, I could scan/OCR the article.

Bob

Jessica Blank wrote:
>
> I would love to read this article! Could you post it (or an URL of it, or
> a URL of scans of the actual pages) to the list?
>
>                                                         --Jessica
>
> =========================================
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> -----------------------------------------
>   Programmer * Unix Sysadmin * Web Geek
>  jessica@twu.net * http://www.JessL.org/
> =========================================
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:
>
> > There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> > lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
> >
> > The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
> >
> > In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
> > using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
> >
> > M Stocker
> >
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> >
>
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Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:42:50 -0000
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-----Original Message-----
>From: "Stuart Gray"
>Sent: 15/12/01 10:09:02 AM

>LOL!  As a teacher of IT, I am constantly battling against ignorance in
>computing.  My problem is, no-one I teach (11-18-yr-olds) has seen
>anything other than Windows 95/98 (What's a "command line"?  What's a
>"Macintosh"?  Linux?  OS/2??).  Still, I'm trying...

Don't be too hard on them! 22 years ago I had a Commodore PET. You =
switched it on and started typing a BASIC program. 4 years later I had a =
job working with mini-computers and mainframes. I still remember how =
bewildering I found the concept of booting an OS and loading a compiler. =
Please try to accommodate us thickies! Mind you, after that job I'd have =
found the concept of rebooting ten times a day because of the OS pretty =
bewildering too.

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Hi Rei

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:27:40 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?q?rei=20vilo?= <rei_vilo@YAHOO.FR> wrote:

> After sending and reading my e-mail with the HPLX
> using the Motorola Timeport 250 through IrDA, I
> realised that some files were corrupted on the C:
> drive.
>
> 1. May this be caused by electromagnetic interferences
> from the mobile phone?

I have never experienced file damages due to EMI.
But it _could_ be possible if the EMI is very strong.

> 2. My HPLX is a 2 MB turned 6 MB: are extended HPLX
> more prone to EMI?

Well, but your one. Palmtops with 32MB or more would be, I think,
because in these palmtops additional wires are mounted, which are
address lines and they are some cm long  so they could act as antennas
and the address values can thus be affected by EMI and data could be
written to a wrong address that way. But again, you would be the first
person who experienced such kind of affection. It would be great if you
would try to find out if it is really EMI which causes your proglems.

> I read the pages from Daniel Hertrich,
> (www.daniel-hertrich.de), about HPLX and EMI and
> possible solutions. But the problem is, if the mobile
> is more than 20 cm away from the HPLX, the IrDA
> connection does not work so well ; putting the mobile
> closer to the HPLX seems to increase the risks of EMI.

Yes, htis is the same problem as with the Siemens phones. Probably
Motorola also uses low-power IrDA chips. :-(

Please download Stefan Peichl's Ring.com (peichl.hplx.net/ring.zip) and
fire it up, press Enter once to enter debug mode, place your telephone
10 cm away from the LX and dial a not valid number. This causes the
phone to connect to the network for some time (but they won't charge
you anything, since the number you've dialed is not valid).
Then please write down some of the higher numbers which appear on the
upper half of the screen and tell us what they are.

This would be interesting to compare to values other telephones cause.

Try the same test also with a distance of 20cm and 30cm.

Thanks a lot
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Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:41:05 -0500
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I wish to do this to stem maybe a bit of spam. If I post to a newsgroup, I
do not want my email address posted out there for all to see (and also to be
harvested). This is how I have set up OE on my desktop as well.

Keith Grider
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: PNR and CFG fields


> Keith Grider writes:
> > Has anyone tweaked PNR 3.5 to get it to put other fields from the CFG
file
> > into the header of certain posts. Here is what I am trying to do: I want
> > email sent from PNR to have my proper username and ID (user= and name=
> > fields in the pnr.cfg file). When I send NNTP messages, I want my user
to be
> > user=no_one and name=KeithG.
>
> I think that this would be easy to do. Could you explain why you do this?
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Anybody know where to download mocha ppp? I messed with it a long time
ago and can't find d/loaded copy. It seems the vendor may have
discontinued it. Could someone send me the zip file. I belive it's
only a few hundred kb in size.

thanks


> Avi,
>
> Indeed MochaPPP is a very usefull piece of software if you
> want to allow
> your HP200LX to share an open internet connection on the
> desktop. It runs on
> the desktop. It allows POST/LX running on the HP200LX to

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Everyone,

Can dBase IV be used successfully on the 200LX (I assume it would have to
run from A: on a standard 2mb unit)?  Also, what is the best/safest way to
clean an LX display?  I have seen screen cleaning sheets for
Palm/Visor-type PDA's in places like Staples and Frys...anyone have an
opinion about these?

Thanks,
Martin G. Ramirez





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Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:01:00 -0500
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I tried access PenComputing at www.pencomputing.com but the site seems to be
down.

M Stocker

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:54 AM
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I would love to read this article! Could you post it (or an URL of it, or
a URL of scans of the actual pages) to the list?

                                                        --Jessica


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On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:

> There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
>
> The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
>
> In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
> using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
>
> M Stocker
>
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Hey guys,

I had hoped it wouldn't come to this, but my wife said I have too many toys.
As a result my fav. 32 meg ds is for sale on ebay.

Mike...

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311643583

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Mark, David, Yves

 I'm getting closer!  I am now able to get a PPP connection with my 200 =
through mochappp, but I can't get the next step.  If I connect wwwlx and =
run HV; then requesting a website just times out (DNS not responding).  =
If I use postlx, then I also get a "times out" type error.  I'm sure that =
I am not using a proper script, but I do not know where to find a correct =
one.  I have tried the following three:

   1.)  İDirect_Script¨ s=3DSLIP\r   w=3D10 Address is     i=3D

   2,)  İDirect_Script¨ @=3D3

   3.)  İDirect_Script¨ e=3DStarting PPP  s=3DPPP\r

I also notice that even after disconnecting wwwlx on the 200, that =
mochappp still shows a PPP connection.  I assume that is just because of =
the way wwwlx is aborting when it times out.

 Any and all help is appreciated:

Larry

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Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:17:09 -0500 (EST)

I scanned the site this morning (searched for "200LX") but didn't find
anything current.

Cheers...AJKind

01h16m09s ago ...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:

> I tried access PenComputing at www.pencomputing.com but the site seems =
to be
> down.
>
> M Stocker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hplx@twu.net İmailto:hplx@twu.net¨
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: knerml
> Cc: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 200LX Article in Jan 2002 Pen Computing Magazine
>
> I would love to read this article! Could you post it (or an URL of it, =
or
> a URL of scans of the actual pages) to the list?
>
>                                                         --Jessica
>
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>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:
>
> > There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> > lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
> >
> > The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
> >
> > In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted=
 to
> > using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
> >
> > M Stocker
> >
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Maybe 'cuz they're running Windows like their palmtops? ;)


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On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:

> I tried access PenComputing at www.pencomputing.com but the site seems to be
> down.
>
> M Stocker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hplx@twu.net İmailto:hplx@twu.net¨
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: knerml
> Cc: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 200LX Article in Jan 2002 Pen Computing Magazine
>
>
> I would love to read this article! Could you post it (or an URL of it, or
> a URL of scans of the actual pages) to the list?
>
>                                                         --Jessica
>
>
> =========================================
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> -----------------------------------------
>   Programmer * Unix Sysadmin * Web Geek
>  jessica@twu.net * http://www.JessL.org/
> =========================================
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:
>
> > There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> > lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
> >
> > The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
> >
> > In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
> > using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
> >
> > M Stocker
> >
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> >
>
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> Avi, Al and Larry,
>
> I have been using MochaPPP quite happily for some time now.  This is
> how I have it set up:

Mark - been following this thread for a few days and so decided I had
not experimented for a while with the HP and this was a challenge.

THANKS.  Your info on setup worked.  I did have to tweak and retweak a
few settings to match what you posted but I got HV to work through the
HP serial cable to my win98 desktop which was connected by MODEM to cis
(my isp).  A bit sluggish.  When I tried email I got some message but
since HV worked, I would imagine a bit more tweaking might do it.

THANKS.

Fred

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Re: EMI from Motorola Timeport?

Daniel:

Thanks for your answer and the comprehensive procedure
I followed for measuring EMI related problems. I
didn't know that the LX had an EMI detector! Here are
the results:

After having launched RING and pressed Enter to enter
debug mode,

1. Putting the mobile 10 cm away from the LX and
making a call,

The upper half of the screen shows
  1   1   1   1   1   1


1. Putting the mobile between 20 and 30 cm away from
the LX and making a call,

The upper half of the screen shows
  1  2   1

My mobile is a Motorola Timeport 250 3-bands, but only
900 and 1800 are used in Europe (1900 is for USA).

Best regards,


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Hi Rei again

a correction of my previous posting:

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:15:53 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> > 2. My HPLX is a 2 MB turned 6 MB: are extended HPLX
> > more prone to EMI?
>
> Well, but your one. Palmtops with 32MB or more would be, I think,

That's not quite logical, isn't it? ;-)
I meant: "Well, but NOT your one...."

That comes when I type faster than I think.
Sorry.

GTX
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Hi Rei

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:01:08 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?q?rei=20vilo?= <rei_vilo@YAHOO.FR> wrote:

> 1. Putting the mobile 10 cm away from the LX and
> making a call,
>
> The upper half of the screen shows
>   1   1   1   1   1   1
>
> 1. Putting the mobile between 20 and 30 cm away from
> the LX and making a call,
>
> The upper half of the screen shows
>   1  2   1
>

WHAT?? 8-)
Please put it 5 cm away and also try it directly bedsides the LX!

I have expected numbers around 100 or 200...!

ring.com counts the characters coming from the IR receiver circuit.

The GHz-signals a phone sends are not detected, because it is a too
high frequence. But these signals are pulsed by a frequency of a few
kHz, and these pulses cause induced voltages in the receiver circuit
which are decoded by the iR decoder as incoming characters (nonsense,
of course). And this causes the disturbation of real incoming IR
signals.

So if you get numbers of only 1 or 2, there should be no reason why
data should be disturbed, and that means weak disturbing signals which
can not at all cause data corruption on your drives.

GTX
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any word on if it is out and available????

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there were a couple of "optimization" programs for 123 v2.4 İ"whats best",
and some others¨.

They essentially amounted to a "back solve" function that could accept
MULTIPLE cells as input parameters İand that need for multiple input cells
is why the 200lx's built in backsolver tie-in to the calculator wont work¨

Any leads on where to obtain copies?

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I've used a very similar (and probably faster) program called Foxpro.
The last version was 2.6 and it works well on the plamtop once you
tweak video modes.

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> Everyone,
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> Can dBase IV be used successfully on the 200LX (I assume it
> would have to
> run from A: on a standard 2mb unit)?  Also, what is the

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Hi,
        I just scavenged an HP ThinkJet printer - its a model 2225c in the
hopes of using it with my 200.  I do not yet know if it is an ASCII-input
type device or if it wants some other thing eg PostScript or who knows
what else.  Has anyone succesfully connected this printer up to an LX?
Thanks!
                                              Leo
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Hi friends

I have updated several items of my homepage, mainly added some
interesting pictures:

1. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff
shows many additional pictures, including a palmtop thermometer,
upgrade hardware modifications... simply look and enjoy.

2. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair
more info about the hinge crack (fix with Sachsenkleber), and many more
info about bad screens and how to fix them.

3. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx
now shows a few much better pictures of my self-made Siemens data cable
electronics. BTW: Any interest? I eventually have one of these cables
for sale.


That's it for now.
Have fun!
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I'm sorry - I should add some more information.  This printer has a
parallel, Centronix type interface; it seems to recognize drivers for "HP
ThinkJet" and "Epson MX80/MX100"; and there is a reference in the
documentation to a program called HPSCREEN but that program is not
described by the documents that I have.
                                        many thanks!
                                              Leo
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Date:         Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:49:19 -0500
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Oh My, they still exist. These printers were the bane of my existence. My
ears still ring from hearing them print. I just surfed to hp.com and there
is information on these printers still. They will work in Epson mode or HP
mode, though I do not remember exactly what that is. We used to print to
them from AT's and XT's, so there are drivers which should work with the LX,
but you will need to get a parallel connection to it somehow. I wonder how
expensive the ink cartridges are for these. They were the precursor of the
DeskJet printers from what I remember.

KeithG
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> I'm sorry - I should add some more information.  This printer has a
> parallel, Centronix type interface; it seems to recognize drivers for "HP
> ThinkJet" and "Epson MX80/MX100"; and there is a reference in the
> documentation to a program called HPSCREEN but that program is not
> described by the documents that I have.
>                                         many thanks!
>                                               Leo
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Hi friends

I have found a network card which works with the palmtop without any
problem. It is not an Accton or Silicom card, but a card labeled
"4lan NETWORK PCMCIA Ethernet adapter ANT-CS-2P" and has a combined
RJ45- and coaxial dongle.
It identifies itself with LXCIC simply as "PCMCIA Ethernet". Well, I
think it is just another NE2000 clone or compatible.

You can see pictures of this card at
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff

I thought it might be of interest.

GTX
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Date:         Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:29:52 -0500
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AH! look at the size of the dongle! It looks HUGE. I wonder if it is using
the same low power chip that the Accton uses. I wonder if the Accton dongle
would work with it... The card that interests me the most if the 'socket low
power lan card' (CF adapter) as it is even lower power consumption than the
Accton or Silicom. Etienne reported that the LXEN2216 driver works with it
also, but I have not tried it myself. The best price I have seen so far is
about U$80.00. It may be worth it for a bit more battery life if it works. I
will see if there is one at a local store and try it if I get a chance. Of
course, I will post if I have success.

KeithG
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> Hi friends
>
> I have found a network card which works with the palmtop without any
> problem. It is not an Accton or Silicom card, but a card labeled
> "4lan NETWORK PCMCIA Ethernet adapter ANT-CS-2P" and has a combined
> RJ45- and coaxial dongle.
> It identifies itself with LXCIC simply as "PCMCIA Ethernet". Well, I
> think it is just another NE2000 clone or compatible.
>
> You can see pictures of this card at
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff
>
> I thought it might be of interest.
>
> GTX
> daniel
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>>documentation to a program called HPSCREEN but that program is not
>>described by the documents that I have.

hpscreen.exe is a dos tsr printer driver. We actually still use it to drive
deskjets from dos. not sure if it will work on the palmtop it needs 47k to
run for one thing and I am not sure but it probably expects a ega screen. if
you cant find it on the hp web site drop me a line.

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>>expensive the ink cartridges are for these. They were the precursor of the
>>DeskJet printers from what I remember.

your thinking of the hp paintjet the ink is no longer available from what I
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Leo Bellantoni <bellanto@FNAL.GOV> wrote:
>         I just scavenged an HP ThinkJet printer - its a model 2225c in the
> hopes of using it with my 200.  I do not yet know if it is an ASCII-input

Yes, it takes ASCII, and can either interpret HP escape sequences for
fancy effects or Epson MX80 sequences (I think this depends on one of
the DIP switch settings).  HP made these printers with four or five
different interfaces: 2225A is HP-IB, 2225B is HP-IL (and
battery-powered, for use with the HP 110 and Portable Plus), 2225C is
Centronics parallel, and 2225D is RS-232 on a DB25S so you might want
to keep your eyes open for one of those.  I've also seen some of these
printers with a DA15S connector (narrower than a DB25) but can't
remember what the model number those were, maybe also 2225C as I think
they were also considered parallel.

If you need to get ink cartridges, the ca. 1990 HP QuietJet printers
used the same sort.  There were also two flavors of ink: earlier
cartridges worked best with special HP ThinkJet paper, later cartridges
were made with ink that worked OK on plain paper.

-Frank McConnell

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I would have to check which one the 2225C is, but I do have a 2225B here.
The difference probably is the interface. Mine has HP-IL, and I used it (it
still works, but I use it only very occasionally) with the HP-41
programmable calcuputers and the HP Portable Plus "laptop". Great machines,
all these! The 200 LX does not talk HP-IL, allthough I believe there was a
third-party IL-module somehow for it in the early LX years.

If your interface is serial, or if you have a suitable interface adapter,
the Thinkjet should work with the LX. It accepts, according to a
soft-switchable mode, Epson printing codes and a more powerful early (the
earliest?) version of HP-laserprinter codes (PCL, perhaps avant le mot). In
case you need, I could scan or photocopy the complete code tables for you
(but allow some time...). I actually wrote a graphics printer driver for the
Thinkjet for use with the T-Master programme suite (does that still exist?).
It was an excellent printer for those days, with quite good graphics
capabilities, too. I assume most anything the built-in laser printer driver
of the LX sends to a printer is understood by the Thinkjet.

Be aware there are two types of printer cartridges for it. The one (HP
92261A) is for special inkjet paper (the white, smooth quality, HP 92261N
for 2500 Z-folded sheets A4), the other (HP 51604 A, same as Canon CJ-3A)
for normal paper. I am not sure the 92261 numbers still exist, but about a
year ago there was no problem to obtain the 51604A or the Canon).

Enjoy,
Geert.

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Beginning to wonder if South Carolina is in a time warp.
I saw when the author of this article posted the notice that it was coming
out in the next issue a few weeks ago.  The most recent issue Pen Computing
that I've gotten was November 2001 and it was delivered about 2 weeks ago (a
couple weeks after the announcement).  Searching the magazine from front to
back and I don't find anything about the 200LX.  I figure that it is going
to come out in the December issue.  All of you start talking about reading
the article so I go to www.pencomputing.com and see that the cover they
display as current is the November 2001.  Ok guys, where are you getting the
Jan. 2002 magazines?
bob

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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX Article in Jan 2002 Pen Computing Magazine


Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:17:09 -0500 (EST)

I scanned the site this morning (searched for "200LX") but didn't find
anything current.

Cheers...AJKind

01h16m09s ago ...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:

> I tried access PenComputing at www.pencomputing.com but the site seems to
be
> down.
>
> M Stocker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: 200LX Article in Jan 2002 Pen Computing Magazine
>
> I would love to read this article! Could you post it (or an URL of it, or
> a URL of scans of the actual pages) to the list?
>
>                                                         --Jessica
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, knerml wrote:
>
> > There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> > lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
> >
> > The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
> >
> > In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted
to
> > using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
> >
> > M Stocker

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Ed,

You can get it at www.mochanet.dk  and download the mocha32.zip file (not =
completely sure that I remembered th file name correctly)

Larry


> Anybody know where to download mocha ppp? I messed with it a long time
> ago and can't find d/loaded copy. It seems the vendor may have
> discontinued it. Could someone send me the zip file. I belive it's
> only a few hundred kb in size.

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clean an LX display?  I have seen screen cleaning sheets for
> Palm/Visor-type PDA's in places like Staples and
> Frys...anyone have an
> opinion about these?

never touched the stuff. I usually use some spit and the tail of my
shirt or a sleeve. Works pretty good.... seriusly.

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If you can read this, then I succeeded connecting my palmtop
through serial cable to serial port of OB800CT, which has a
PCMCIA modem and is logged in to Compuserve. So the email is
written on the Palmtop, then WWW.EXE is started, with Post/LX
spawned, then simply go online with F5. I'll provide more
details on the connection details.

HV experiment went just fine before I went to email...

  Avi

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Hi,

You may already have read my other post re success with
MochaPPP.

Most of the info is what Mark Wallace-Jones already posted.

Available at http://www.mochasoft.dk. Click on Download and
get mppp.zip.

This is a 32-bit version that will work with WinCE and Palm
Pilot-like devices. The website has details.

Unzip. Run SETUP.EXE on the desktop. It is fast. I have
problems installing the product where I wanted, but it
installed instantly in the default libs suggested.

Run MPPP.EXE on desktop. Speed set to 57600 (mine did not work
at 115200). Tell it it is a WinCE. Tell it the proper com post
where you plug the cable that goes to the Palmtop.

Next: Connect the serial cable to a serial port on desktop
and to the Palmtop. I had troubles until I realized I was
using a Palmtop Serial cable with a crossed over line, which
required the black crossover connector. Once that is done
connection was immediate. So use a REGULAR serial cable, not
one for a modem.

Next, on the Palmtop:

WWWSETUP.EXE, press SETUP, then "+" to Add a "Setup" (a
Connection).

As Mark detailed: External modem, uncheck modem (tells WWW.EXE
it is a direct connect), PPP connection (vs. SLIP), Setup up
baud rate. My 115200 could not work, too many errors, but
56700 was fine. The SAME BAUD rate must be set on both ends:
MochaPPP and WWWSETUP! Modeminit blank (type one space!) As in
Dial=3D, login, password.

MyIP, DNS1, DNS2 all 0.0.0.0.

Name the script under Script=3D

My WWW.cfg sections:

---------- WWW.CFG

İGlobal¨
  ...
Setup=3DmochaPPP


İSetup¨
  ...
mochaPPP=3DMochaPPP Direct


İScript¨
  ...
MochaPPP_Script=3DDirect Connect script


(When I tried this name mochaPPP_Script I got a message from
WWWSETUP that there was no "mochaPPP_Script" in the CFG file.
Uppercasing the "M" worked.)


İmochaPPP¨
Port=3D1
OmniGo=3D0
PPP=3D1
Modem=3D0
Baud=3D57600
My_IP=3D0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=3D0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=3D0.0.0.0
Script=3DMochaPPP_Script
Login=3D
ModemInit=3D
Dial=3D
Password=3D


İMochaPPP_Script¨
s=3D\r
@=3D3


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The script for direct connect went away when WWW/LX 2.1 was
released, but was still in WWW/LX 1.2. In any case see above
whet the script should be.

Start up WWW/LX and tell it to start (spawn) Post/LX. Make
sure the Setup for mochaPPP connection is in force (CTRL-F5 in
Post/LX).

F5 will create the PPP connection with MochaPPP, and you can
see the MPPP.EXE screen giving feedback about byte numbers,
etc.

I am now going to try in the next mailrun to see if I can have
a browser downloading something while Post/LX can also get
stuff on the same CIS connection.

After a few more days, when we have more experience, I'll put
a FAQ item on D&A Website.

This is waaay cool.

  Avi

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> You can get it at www.mochanet.dk  and download the mocha32.zip file (not completely sure that I remembered th file name correctly)

The version I grabbed from that site was for the Palm and/or Win-ce
devices.  It took a bunch of diving and rediving until there was finally
a file to download. They made it hard to know where the darn file was.
It seems to have saved with the simple name of mppp.zip even though I'm
sure I was tracking something with a name of mppp32c.zip or similar.

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Hello list,

During the make of TXT-file there is something what I do not
understand. When opening TXT-file on my desktop Windows
machine Window UtraEdit editor is trying to convert from Unix
to DOS file format by opening the TXT-files. After conversion
all is fine. But I am curious if somebody can explain
something more about how a simple TXT-file can me recognized
as a Unix file instead of a DOS file to prevent me from
converting the TXT-files once when opening on a desktop
machine.

Thanks Harry Wellner

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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:55:53 +1300
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Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:49:27 +1300 (NZDT)

Harry, I think you can only "see" the difference with a binary
editor. Then you get to see that for a DOS text file every line
ends with a <CR><LF> pair, but for a UNIX file each line ends
with only a <LF>. <CR> is a carriage return, and looks like a
musical note. <LF> looks like a black rectangle with a little
circle in.

- Tony

02h08m40s ago ...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:40:47 +0100, Harry Wellner wrote:

> But I am curious if somebody can explain
> something more about how a simple TXT-file can me recognized
> as a Unix file instead of a DOS file to prevent me from
> converting the TXT-files once when opening on a desktop
> machine.

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Hi friends,

I know I have asked this before, but maybe we have a few more experts
now on the list...

I would like to be able to do the same thing as mochaPPP provides, but
with a Linux box instead of Windows.

I have already a working internet connection from Linux (DSL) and I
have IP forwarding and IP masquerading enabled. This works great when I
connect my Omnibook 800 and my palmtop to the linux box with Ethernet
cards. I can access the Internet from these devices, too.

However, it would be nicer to connect the palmtop via serial cable to
the Linux box, because this makes PCMCIA card swapping superfluous. At
least everytime I only want to download email, and this is by far the
most often usage here. ;-)

I think the Linux pppd should do the job I need, but I have not figured
out how to set pppd up the right way. Also I don't know how to set up
WWW/LX correctly so that I can use the PPP over serial line correctly.

Any hints?

Thanks a lot
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List,

One other cool piece of software I have found while trailing round the
internet is Soft IR Modem available at:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA005810/irda/sfirmdme.htm

It turns your big expensive Laptop with IR port or Desktop with IR
dongle and Win 98/Me into an IR modem.  You of course already need to
have the Microsoft IR stack installed and working and in the case of a
desktop some sort of IR dongle.  I use it with WWW/LX and my
standard CIS setup and IR.  I actually prefer it to MochaPPP for dial
up connections as I find it more reliable over IR (obviously if you are
using a desktop with no IR dongle then this will not work for you).  I
use MochaPPP mostly when I want to pick up my email over my network
at work.  In both cases I use IR to connect - who needs cables!

The web-site says the software will not work with Win2000 - I have
managed to get it to work with Win2000 but I needed to install a
separate driver.  If anyone wants help with this, give me a shout.

Cheers

Mark


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Hi friends,

I have found the solution for my problem myself - thanks to Avi's
detailed description and the people at MochaSoft, which were fairly
helpful. I asked them for a Linux solution and they andwered with an
URL which contained just the info I needed:

http://www.geocities.com/bobstro/Linux-palm_ppp.htm

If someone is interested, I can post detailed instructions how to
connect the palmtop via WWW/LX and serial connection to Linux to get
into Internet.

The next step for me is now to make this also work with my Ombibook
800, as I also swant to connect to the Internet with the palmtop when I
am in the university using my OB800, which is connected to Internet via
wireless LAN all the time.
I hope I can make it work over IrDA - that would be indeed the most
convenient way and a challenge in addition! :-)

Since there is now an IrDA driver for the OB800 for Linux, it should
not be a big problem. I'll report...

Thanks
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Stefan,

do you think it is possible in some way to distinguish between a modem
connected to the palmtop's COM port or the serial cable leading to the
Linux box?

If I do a "modem 1", it says "found" if Linux is connected.
my setcom.bat says "external modem found".
But I would like to be able to let setcom.bat choose the correct www
setup ("pppd_linux" in my case) ir not a modem, but the linux box with
its pppd is connected.

Thanks
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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:22:08 +0200
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Hi Keith

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:29:52 -0500, "Keith Grider" <k.grider@earthlink.net> wrote:

> AH! look at the size of the dongle! It looks HUGE. I wonder if it is using

It IS huge. :-¨
But it is a combined RJ45 and BNC dongle, so it must be big.

GTX
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Bonjour Daniel:

No more question mark now!

>
> WHAT?? 8-)
> Please put it 5 cm away and also try it directly
bedsides the LX!
>
> I have expected numbers around 100 or 200...!

I thought for while those bad news were good news 8-)

So I tried again. Here are the results:

EMI Errors/sec = 23

  27  27  44  18  23   1  16  28  27  25  24  16  12
12
   1   2   2   2   2   2   1  23   1   1  20  20   5
28
  27  49  37 168  28  25  24  24  24  25  24  24  36
26
  31  24  72   1  13 289  24  60  29 106  90  25  24
24
 178 205 180 165 206 190  24  24 102 206 205 116  25
24
  24  36  55  12  25 138 206  69  35 40   21  21   0
13
   3 109 181  24  12  21  12  12   1 ...

The closer the mobile phone, the higher the values. I
hope there are not other consequecnes but IR
disturbancies and that I am not going to suffer from
other data losses. Mobile phones are dangerous, aren't
they?

Thanks for your help.


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By convention, dos text files will have two characters that indicate
the end of a line. There are the carriage return character (ascii 13)
and the linefeed character (ascii... 10?... I forget). The convention
under Unix is to just have the carriage return. The result is that
when you copy a text file from unix to dos, you may get line overruns
if the text editor does not grok unix ascii files. If you copy a dos
file to unix you will sometimes see the ¬M character after every line
in vi.


> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of
> Harry Wellner
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:41 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: UNIX txt-files question
>
>
> Hello list,
>
> During the make of TXT-file there is something what I do not
> understand. When opening TXT-file on my desktop Windows
> machine Window UtraEdit editor is trying to convert from Unix
> to DOS file format by opening the TXT-files. After conversion
> all is fine. But I am curious if somebody can explain
> something more about how a simple TXT-file can me recognized
> as a Unix file instead of a DOS file to prevent me from
> converting the TXT-files once when opening on a desktop
> machine.
>
> Thanks Harry Wellner
>
> mailto:hwellner@planet.nl
>
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Hi Tony,

      For linear / simplex optimization, there is "Linear Programs" by
Cornel Huth; version 2.61 is on the S.U.P.E.R. site.  There was another
spreadsheet out there -I haven't got a copy any more and I can't find it
on either the S.U.P.E.R. site or the very useful
http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/ location- which "did" multiple cell
optimization.  However, I looked at it once upon a time and concluded that
it does not really do optimization in multiple variables.  Rather, it
loops over a sequence of optimizations, each in an individual variable.
You might as well write an HPLX system macro to jump back and forth from
123 to HPcalc and solve for each particular combination of cells.  This
algorithm is not a very useful thing; in a multidimensional space, finding
the optimum one dimension at a time is worse than finding... never mind.
If you are looking for the minimum of a quadratic, I have an algorithm
which maybe you could modify.  If you are looking for anything more
complicated than that, I would suggest getting a high level language
compiler running, (rather than Lotus' macro language) and then write some
code, starting with http://lib-www.lanl.gov/numerical/... their simplex
algorithm is a good start but it won't tell you if your "best answer" is
precisely found or if anything close to it is pretty good.


> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:14:58 -0500
> From: "Corso, Tony" <tcorso@SITHE.COM>
> Subject: leads DOS Whats BEST for 123??
>
> there were a couple of "optimization" programs for 123 v2.4 İ"whats
> best", and some others¨.
>
> They essentially amounted to a "back solve" function that could accept
> MULTIPLE cells as input parameters İand that need for multiple input
> cells is why the 200lx's built in backsolver tie-in to the calculator
> wont work¨
>
> Any leads on where to obtain copies?
>
> Tony

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Hi friends,
        You won't be able to do this on your laptop, but take a look at
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html, the entry for 20 Dec 2001.
Kinda pretty!
                                              Leo
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Hi friends

YES!! It works!
This email reaches you from Post/LX via: WWW/LX, IrDA to an Omnibook
800 running Linux with IP forwarding connected via wireless LAN to a
wLAN access point in my university which is connected to the Internet.

This doesn't involve any additional cable! Only wireless technologies!

This is great! It saves me the need to connect via GSM in the
university just to send / receive a few email with Post/LX.

The other alternative, running Post/LX directly on the Linux Laptop
using DOSEMU and PALRUN turned out to be impractical due to crashes of
DOSEMU and because of the hassles copying Post/LX files from ant to the
flash card a lot.

Now this is the best solution ever possible!

If someone is interested, I can post instructions. Or maybe I'll put up
a website with informations soon. Let me know.

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"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely,
mindboggingly big it is.  I mean you may think it's a long way down
the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."

I love astronomy. First we found that Earth is not at the center of
the solar system. Then we found that the Sun is just an ordinary star
in a galaxy full of them and the galaxy is just one galaxy among
billions (most of which are speeding away from eachother!). Recent
theories on dark matter  suggest that we're not even made of the same
stuff as most of the rest of the universe. Now we've also found that
the expansion of the universe is speeding up instead of slowing down.
Space is not only big, it keeps getting bigger, faster. Awesome....




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>
>
> Hi friends,
>         You won't be able to do this on your laptop, but
> take a look at
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html, the entry
> for 20 Dec 2001.
> Kinda pretty!

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On 18 December 2001 23:42, Martin G. Ramirez wrote:

>                                       Also, what is the=20
> best/safest way to
> clean an LX display?  I have seen screen cleaning sheets for
> Palm/Visor-type PDA's in places like Staples and Frys...anyone have an
> opinion about these?

Many years ago, (just looked it up - it was just over seven), I bought a
bottle of screen cleaning liquid from Educalc called "Snap". I seem to
remember the blurb saying that it was the stuff they used on the
telescope lenses at Mt. Palomar. Their '96 catalogue said, "the only
cleaner recommended by HP for cleaning computers and calculators". I've
used it on everything and it works well. Most importantly, it hasn't
appeared to harm anything like plastic or screen coatings etc. It not
only cleans, but it leaves a sheen on the glass that repels dust and
further muck so the screens stay cleaner longer.

The bottle says: Mist Products Inc., 16 Watch Hill Rd.,
Croton-on-Hudson, N.Y. 10520

I'm about a quarter of the way through so 30 years supply for $4.95 was
pretty good :-) The same invoice shows my HP-16C for $34.95 which wasn't
bad either!

Personally, I'd seriously consider trying a product called (in the UK
anyway) Rain-X. It's for motorcycle visors and does pretty much the same
thing - leaving a glossy sheen. Also, have a look at camera lens
products, they're far more delicate and far more "coated" than an LX
screen.

One caveat about the spit & shirt-sleeve technique (shame on you Ed ;-))
although this warning applies to all techniques, is that wiping the
crud, hard, across the screen might scratch it. Be gentle with the
liquid phase until all grit is removed before polishing.

Not quite an answer to your question about the wipes, but I think
anything designed for palmtop/laptop screens will be 100% safe with the
LX's screen.

--=20
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Leo Bellantoni wrote:
>
> I'm sorry - I should add some more information.  This printer
has a
> parallel, Centronix type interface; it seems to recognize
drivers for "HP
> ThinkJet" and "Epson MX80/MX100"; and there is a reference in
the
> documentation to a program called HPSCREEN but that program is
not
> described by the documents that I have.

The MX80 was a printer that printed plain ASCII text with
imbedded control characters.  It does recognize TABs (9) and
Newlines (either 0DAh or 0Ah) and Form Feeds (0Ch) so it should
work on normal text.  There are also characters you can insert
to change the pitch and underline, etc but I don't remember what
they are.  They shouldn't be hard to find on the web.

If you use a word processor and set it for a generic printer
that should work just fine.  I think most word processors
generic printers were simplified forms of either the Epson or
the IBM printer and for simple text those are the same.

The MX80 was the standard printer on most PCs back in the days
when PC meant Personal Computer and included Apples and TRS-80s
and other microcomputers.  These mostly used 0DAh as a line
termination character but TRS-80s used 0Dh and a some used 0Ah
so I think the MX80 had a dip switch setting to control that.

If I remember right the MX100 was the wider version of the MX80
but I'm not sure I have that right.

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The link seems broken from here. I'm sure there are other sites with
the same information tho.... ah!

this works: http://www.geocities.com/bobstro/linux_palm_ppp.htm



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> Behalf Of
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> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:55 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: MochaPPP
>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I have found the solution for my problem myself - thanks to Avi's
> detailed description and the people at MochaSoft, which were fairly
> helpful. I asked them for a Linux solution and they andwered with an
> URL which contained just the info I needed:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/bobstro/Linux-palm_ppp.htm
>
> If someone is interested, I can post detailed instructions how to
> connect the palmtop via WWW/LX and serial connection to Linux to get
> into Internet.
>
> The next step for me is now to make this also work with my Ombibook
> 800, as I also swant to connect to the Internet with the
> palmtop when I
> am in the university using my OB800, which is connected to
> Internet via
> wireless LAN all the time.
> I hope I can make it work over IrDA - that would be indeed the most
> convenient way and a challenge in addition! :-)
>
> Since there is now an IrDA driver for the OB800 for Linux, it should
> not be a big problem. I'll report...
>
> Thanks
> daniel
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:48:50 -0500
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Hi All,

I've been saving Excel spreadsheets as .WK1 files for a long time now (and
converting 123 to Excel too), but wondered about the Date's "D4" formatting.

I made a date entry column in Excel like 12/15/2001 and, after converting and
opening in 123, it shows up fine (after widening the cell) in the
spreadsheet, but the displayed value (in the data entry field) is: 37240.

What the heck is that number?

I noticed 37241 gives 12/16/2001 and 1 gives  01/01/00. Does that mean it's
the number of days "AD"?

I'm sure this was addressed in the 123/Y2K discussions; but I'm just now
noticing <grin>!

Also, and I promise to write it down this time, how do you make the
boundaries around the cells visible again, when you open a 123 file in Excel?
(I don't want to have printable lines, just ones on the screen)

TIA for all!

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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:10:04 +0100
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> By convention, dos text files will have two characters that indicate
> the end of a line. There are the carriage return character (ascii 13)
> and the linefeed character (ascii... 10?... I forget). The convention
> under Unix is to just have the carriage return. The result is that

Unix uses LF, not CR.


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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:40:14 -0800
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> If you copy a dos file to unix you will sometimes see the ¬M character
after every line
> in vi.

Which you then remove (in vi) using:

:g/¬M/s///g

The "¬M" is a combination of Ctrl-V (I think that's called the magic key in
vi), followed by Ctrl-M.

- Longden

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The number in a lotus date is the number of days since Jan 1, 1900 hence in
1/1/00=1, the 00 refers to 1900 not 2000

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Hi

I just saw an LX on swedish TV, it was a program about the
german researcher Karsten Scheider who studied dolphins on New
Zeeland.

It was he who had one when he made notes about dolphins, they
just showed a quick glimpse so I couldn't see what kind of LX
it was but it was definitely an LX.

I looked in the paper about the teveprogram but there stood
nothing when the pogram was produced, I think it is quite
recently, though.

Karsten Scheider has perhaps been here some time?:)



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> > best/safest way to
> > clean an LX display?  I have seen screen cleaning sheets for
> > Palm/Visor-type PDA's in places like Staples and Frys...anyone have an
> > opinion about these?

> thing - leaving a glossy sheen. Also, have a look at camera lens
> products, they're far more delicate and far more "coated" than an LX
> screen.
>
> One caveat about the spit & shirt-sleeve technique (shame on you Ed ;-))
> although this warning applies to all techniques, is that wiping the
> crud, hard, across the screen might scratch it. Be gentle with the
> liquid phase until all grit is removed before polishing.

Then maybe a combination of Ed's technique with camera methods.  I clean
the LX screen in pretty much the same way as my lenses.

I usually carry a micro-fiber cloth used for lens cleaning, which has
fibers small enough to remove fingerprints from glass without the need for
a solution.  These are available at any camera store, and some stores even
carry them for cleaning eyeglasses or drying hair (because they're very
absorbent due to the small fibers).  Basically, any cloth/paper for
cleaning lenses/glass will do.

Blow / brush off any loose dust and debris with a blower, a fine brush or
whatever, and then wipe gently with the cloth.  Then, if the screen is
still smudged with fingerprints, fog it with your breath and then wipe it
again gently with the cloth.

Hasn't hurt my LX or lenses yet, and it works as long as I'm still
breathing.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:14:30 -0500
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You could probably right your own front-end script that watches the
com port and ignores modem related commands (atdt, etc.) and responds
with 'OK' until it's ready to start pppd. then just start pppd and
you're good 2 go.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of
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> Subject: Modem.com etc.
>
>
> Stefan,
>
> do you think it is possible in some way to distinguish
> between a modem
> connected to the palmtop's COM port or the serial cable
> leading to the
> Linux box?
>
> If I do a "modem 1", it says "found" if Linux is connected.
> my setcom.bat says "external modem found".
> But I would like to be able to let setcom.bat choose the correct www
> setup ("pppd_linux" in my case) ir not a modem, but the
> linux box with
> its pppd is connected.
>
> Thanks
> daniel
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I got it working as well. The directions on this guys page nned to be
expanded. I did the following:


echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
ipchains -I forward -j MASQ  # integrate into your chains rules if you
already have some

then I took out the presist parameter and used 38400 baud (56k=bad for
me)

persist option seemed to screw ppp connections subsequent to the
first. Not really needed if init respawns it for you.


/etc/inittab entry:

palm:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0  38400
192.168.25.21:192.168.25.22 proxyarp local noauth silent nodetach
ms-dns 198.6.1.1

I used UUnet's 198.6.1.1 DNS. you should use your own. Make sure the
192 addresses do not conflict with other stuff the linux box uses.

works pretty good except that it sometimes gets busy and keyboard
ibput is delayed.









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> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: MochaPPP
>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I have found the solution for my problem myself - thanks to Avi's
> detailed description and the people at MochaSoft, which were fairly
> helpful. I asked them for a Linux solution and they andwered with an
> URL which contained just the info I needed:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/bobstro/Linux-palm_ppp.htm
>
> If someone is interested, I can post detailed instructions how to
> connect the palmtop via WWW/LX and serial connection to Linux to get
> into Internet.
>
> The next step for me is now to make this also work with my Ombibook
> 800, as I also swant to connect to the Internet with the
> palmtop when I
> am in the university using my OB800, which is connected to
> Internet via
> wireless LAN all the time.
> I hope I can make it work over IrDA - that would be indeed the most
> convenient way and a challenge in addition! :-)
>
> Since there is now an IrDA driver for the OB800 for Linux, it should
> not be a big problem. I'll report...
>
> Thanks
> daniel
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>>But I am curious if somebody can explain
>>something more about how a simple TXT-file can me recognized
>>as a Unix file instead of a DOS file to prevent me from
>>converting the TXT-files once when opening on a desktop
>>machine.

it probably has something to do about the end of line marker being used,
whether it is a Carriage Return or a Line Feed or both.

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Group,

I just went to the local Microcenter and tried out their Targus 6Low power Ethernet card (PA610U). It initializes and SEEMED to work fine. LXEN2216 reported back an IP address. I was not able to connect it to any network to see if I could transfer data, though. The price was US160.00!!, though. It appears to be a Socket.com card in a Targus wrapper. One note was that it does not report 'card battery low' when I insert it like the Accton card.

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Another comment on wiping displays that I learned years ago
cleaning glass meter windows on old tube based electronics.

Wiping without any cleaner/soap/whatever just adds a static
charge and makes the display attract more airborn lint and dust.

The static charge would make those old meters read funny because
the needles had to overcome the charge to position correctly.
A little careful cleaning with windex or a mild soap solution
would not only clean the display but also remove the built up
static charge so it stayed cleaner longer.

I keep a bottle of windex in the office to clean fingerprints
off the crt monitor and I also make a pass across the LX.

Cheers... Russ     (USAF 30250 Weather Eq. Repair 73-77)

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Oops,
  The correct site is www.mochasoft.dk

  And the file is mppp.zip  (look for MochaW32PPP under Palm)

 Sorry about the bad info in the last post.

Larry

> Ed,
>
> You can get it at www.mochanet.dk  and download the mocha32.zip file =
(not completely sure that I remembered th file name correctly)
>
> Larry

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Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:49:12 -0500 (EST)

Me Too!

Well with the OB800 & Worldnet anyway...tomorrow, my desktop & the
University network.

Cheers...AJKind

1 day 01h05m52s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Avi Meshar wrote:

> If you can read this, then I succeeded connecting my palmtop
> through serial cable to serial port of OB800CT, which has a
> PCMCIA modem and is logged in to Compuserve...
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Okay, now that we've gotten mocha/ppp to work (G) - this internet
UNKNOWING person would like to know if there is some way to use the
connection for possibly moving data from the hp to the desktop.  In
other words, BACKUP?  Or is this solely for accessing an isp over the
desktop connection to the internet.

Thanks in advance - and you can guess if the answer is yes or
sorta/kinda more questions will follow (G)

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Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:20:08 -0800
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I recently purchased a PocketJet printer off the guy below - the
condition of the printer, as best I can determine, was open box but
unused (paper box had never been opened). I was so happy with the
printer that I offered to forward the following message to the list.
Note that to use the printer with the LX you will need to buy a serial
cable from pentaxtech.com. A 6 inch cable will cost ~$40 plus shipping.
(For those unfamiliar with this printer it is a thermal printer but uses
its own special paper that is of higher quality than typical thermal
paper. The printer emulates a HP laserjet IIP.)

The printer is a very nice package for on the road printing and
is faster, more durable and has better print quality than the Citizen
PN60 which I also have.

Anyhow here is the info from the guy I bought mine from.

GaryS

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:40:42 -0800 (PST)
From: William Gentry <gentry1959@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PocketJet Printer
To: garys@lidar.com

Gary,

Just wanted to let you know that I have about 10
Pentax Printers left.  They are $50.00 each (includes
shipping).  If you know anyone that wants one, please
let me know.

Thanks,

Will Gentry
P.O. Box 663
Centerburg, OH 43011

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Hi Fred,

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 04:15:01 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Okay, now that we've gotten mocha/ppp to work (G) - this internet
> UNKNOWING person would like to know if there is some way to use the
> connection for possibly moving data from the hp to the desktop.  In
> other words, BACKUP?  Or is this solely for accessing an isp over the
> desktop connection to the internet.

I don't think that it's possible to use this connection for backup
(i.e. file transfer) purposes. But there are other options for that.
Lots of options.

Please go to

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232
and jump tu the guide how to connect a PC to the LX. I have added links
to various pieces of software which do what you want.

The easiest would probably be Transfile Win200, but has other problems,
such as changing the file date and time when you copy files over to the
PC. And you need a patch to make disappear the common error that it
sometimes stops while transfering data. I have this patch, please drop
me a line if you need it.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Ed

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:14:30 -0500, Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I got it working as well. The directions on this guys page nned to be
> expanded. I did the following:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> ipchains -I forward -j MASQ  # integrate into your chains rules if you
> already have some

I chose the newer way with the iptables. but ipchains is also
sufficient, of course.


> then I took out the presist parameter and used 38400 baud (56k=bad for
> me)

here both value give me some "İbad FCS¨" errors while negotiating IPCP
in WWW/LX (I hink it means bad frame checksum), but once the connection
is esstablished, it is stable.
I have not tested speeds below 38400.

> persist option seemed to screw ppp connections subsequent to the
> first. Not really needed if init respawns it for you.

So I'll test without it. What do you exactly mean by "screw"?

> works pretty good except that it sometimes gets busy and keyboard
> ibput is delayed.

I have also experienced this, but this also happens sometimes if you
have an external modem connection.
I wonder what causes this - if there is no data transmission, there
should not be anything what could occupy CPU power of the palmtop.

I always disconnect the connection after up/downloading to avoid this.
I use the dis.com as externel for that.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:12:35 +0200
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Avi

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:15:31 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Next, on the Palmtop:
>
> WWWSETUP.EXE, press SETUP, then "+" to Add a "Setup" (a
> Connection).

....
may I publish your excellent description on my homepage?

Thanks a lot
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:05:19 +0200
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Hi friends,

okay, the recent discussions about MochaPPP and Linux pppd made me
decide to put up an Intenet page dedicated to this topic.

I remembered that Windows 98SE has Internet connection sharing
built-in. Is it possible to use it over the serial port so that the
palmtop can use it in the same way as MochaPPP works?

If yes, would anyone be willing to write a short tutorial how to set
that up?

And if no: What is the difference to MochaPPP?

Thanks a lot
daniel

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Hi Mark

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 04:28:25 -0500, Mark Wallace-Jones <surreal@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> One other cool piece of software I have found while trailing round the
> internet is Soft IR Modem available at:
> http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA005810/irda/sfirmdme.htm

Interesting!

Does it just pass modem commands to a connected modem, or can it also
_share_ a connection between PC and the IR interface, maybe even other
than modem connections?

Do you want to contribute to my new internet-sharing page by writing a
short tutorial about this piece of software? :-)

GTX
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> do you think it is possible in some way to distinguish between a modem
> connected to the palmtop's COM port or the serial cable leading to the
> Linux box?

MODEM checks for the CTS signal. Usually CTS is only set, if
you are connected to a modem. I wonder why Linux uses CTS for
a serial connection, which could be replaced by a 3-wire null
modem cable?

To check for a real modem. one should try to send AT commands
and check for an answer. I think, PORT1.EXE from Andreas
(included in SETCOM.ZIP) works that way. Indeed this solution
is slower, because you must give the modem time to answer.
It is especially slow, if there is no modem connected and a
timeout occurs. Only for this reason I initially wrote MODEM.

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Hi,

Would you please help with some questions about the
HP95LX?

I've been trying to generalize LXSTAT for all maschines
in the LX-family and am suffering under lack of technical
documentation of 95LX.  I haev done some work by exhaustive
search of the I/O ports and BIOS data area ... :( and it's
extremely time-consuming. I hope you could help me on that.
I need description of the BIOS data area and the I/O ports
of the 95LX which is quite different from those of 100/200LX
using Hornet chipset.

* Please share your notes on the BIOS data and I/O
  ports of the 95LX. I've gotten only some bits of
  them. There is a detailed description of one or
  two I/O ports regarding IR (in the file "ir.doc").

* How does "BATTCK.COM" make it to check the voltage
  of an SRAM?  But, I'm not even sure that the output
  of BATTCK.COM is correct ... comments? How does one
  do this on 95LX *and* 100/200LX?

* Is there a description of the CardBIOS of 95LX
  (if there is any)?

* Also, in order to understand some of CardBIOS,
  I'm in need of the complete files of CICDEMO.
  (David has not included the include-files in his
  CIC200.)  (I've already downloaded LXCIC from
  Stefan and Rod.) They are both good references.

* Anybody has noticed that the Timer0 (of 8254) on
  the 95LX is running on mode 0? (while 100/200LX
  in mode 3 like most PC's) What's going on there
  with the three 8254-channels on the 95LX?
  Any comments? And there is an very interesting
  effect to reprogram the Timer0 of 95LX to mode 3
  (using a new version of LxStat) and "IC.COM 8".
  I need explanations ...

* While on the 100/200LX the BIOS time are the RTC
  time are always synchronized on deep-sleep-wakeup,
  they are always synchronized on the 95LX. That is,
  I can make the heart-beats much faster (e.g. 60 Hz),
  on my 200LX, and then the BIOS time will run faster.
  But they are synchonized by pressing OFF/ON. On the
  other hand I never have made it to disturb the BIOS
  time on 95LX.

== Non 95-specific ==

* What's an algorithm for determining if there is a
  battery on the PCMCIA card?

Thanks in advance for any info!
Rudi

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Thank you to those who asked about my article. I have posted a link on my web site where you can now download it:
http://www.financeprofessional.com/palcom.html
Best regards,
Wayne



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It's available in the magazine section at the Borders Books here in downtown
Chicago.

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Beginning to wonder if South Carolina is in a time warp.
I saw when the author of this article posted the notice that it was coming
out in the next issue a few weeks ago.  The most recent issue Pen Computing
that I've gotten was November 2001 and it was delivered about 2 weeks ago (a
couple weeks after the announcement).  Searching the magazine from front to
back and I don't find anything about the 200LX.  I figure that it is going
to come out in the December issue.  All of you start talking about reading
the article so I go to www.pencomputing.com and see that the cover they
display as current is the November 2001.  Ok guys, where are you getting the
Jan. 2002 magazines?
bob
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Barry

If my memory serves correct, the Thinkjet was available in two flavors of
input.  The more common was the obvious parallel, but a serial input
model was available as well.  I do not know if this was a standard
offering or was made special for that company I worked with at the time.
But we did have them.  We shipped some with certain products and used
others with our test equip.  I will look through my archives, but I doubt
I have any info.  Was there any mention of this on the web?


Ed

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:14:56 -0600 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> Leo Bellantoni wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry - I should add some more information.  This printer
> has a
> > parallel, Centronix type interface; it seems to recognize
> drivers for "HP
> > ThinkJet" and "Epson MX80/MX100"; and there is a reference in
> the
> > documentation to a program called HPSCREEN but that program is
> not
> > described by the documents that I have.
>
> The MX80 was a printer that printed plain ASCII text with
> imbedded control characters.  It does recognize TABs (9) and
> Newlines (either 0DAh or 0Ah) and Form Feeds (0Ch) so it should
> work on normal text.  There are also characters you can insert
> to change the pitch and underline, etc but I don't remember what
> they are.  They shouldn't be hard to find on the web.
>
> If you use a word processor and set it for a generic printer
> that should work just fine.  I think most word processors
> generic printers were simplified forms of either the Epson or
> the IBM printer and for simple text those are the same.
>
> The MX80 was the standard printer on most PCs back in the days
> when PC meant Personal Computer and included Apples and TRS-80s
> and other microcomputers.  These mostly used 0DAh as a line
> termination character but TRS-80s used 0Dh and a some used 0Ah
> so I think the MX80 had a dip switch setting to control that.
>
> If I remember right the MX100 was the wider version of the MX80
> but I'm not sure I have that right.
>
> Barry
>
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Hi friends,

the Internet connection sharing page is online now!

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de

GTX
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Hi Stefan,

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:13:32 +0000, Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote:

> MODEM checks for the CTS signal. Usually CTS is only set, if
> you are connected to a modem. I wonder why Linux uses CTS for
> a serial connection, which could be replaced by a 3-wire null
> modem cable?

Well, RTS/CTS is AFAIK a common handshaking mechanism, not only used by
modems. Missing handshaking lines lead to many problems in data
exchange with null modem cables.
So I think pppd and WWW/LX make use of this hadshaking even when
connected via direct serial line.

> To check for a real modem. one should try to send AT commands
> and check for an answer. I think, PORT1.EXE from Andreas
> (included in SETCOM.ZIP) works that way. Indeed this solution
> is slower, because you must give the modem time to answer.
> It is especially slow, if there is no modem connected and a
> timeout occurs. Only for this reason I initially wrote MODEM.

AT commands are probably the only option here. Well, is the timeont of
port1.exe customizeable? Well, I just tried it (without a connected modem,
but without pppd on the other side, either) and the timeout was only
one second or so. So it is no real disadvantage for me.

Thanks for the advice. I'll probably replace modem.com by port1.exe
now in my setcom.bat. Have to build a new setcom.bat anyway.

GTX
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> This email reaches you from Post/LX via: WWW/LX, IrDA to an Omnibook
> 800 running Linux with IP forwarding connected via wireless LAN to a
> wLAN access point in my university which is connected to the Internet.

Wow, just the "coolness" factor alone is amazing!  Plus, it is actually =
useful
too <g>.

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
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I am using PPP with Linux . It assigns IP addresses to the ppp
interface and the LX. I have been able to log into my linux boxes ftp
server and fetch a file. If Mocho works the same way, you can run an
FTP server on the windoze box and do the same.



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> Behalf Of F.
> Kaufman
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: MochaPPP
>
>
> Okay, now that we've gotten mocha/ppp to work (G) - this internet
> UNKNOWING person would like to know if there is some way to use the
> connection for possibly moving data from the hp to the desktop.  In
> other words, BACKUP?  Or is this solely for accessing an
> isp over the
> desktop connection to the internet.
>
> Thanks in advance - and you can guess if the answer is yes or
> sorta/kinda more questions will follow (G)
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>
> Hi Ed
>
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:14:30 -0500, Ed Padin
> <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > I got it working as well. The directions on this guys
> page nned to be
> > expanded. I did the following:
> >
> > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> > ipchains -I forward -j MASQ  # integrate into your chains
> rules if you
> > already have some
>
> I chose the newer way with the iptables. but ipchains is also
> sufficient, of course.

yep, iptables is easier but I was using a 2.2 kernel.. no iptables for
that.

>
>
> > then I took out the presist parameter and used 38400 baud
> (56k=bad for
> > me)
>
> here both value give me some "İbad FCS¨" errors while
> negotiating IPCP
> in WWW/LX (I hink it means bad frame checksum), but once
> the connection
> is esstablished, it is stable.
> I have not tested speeds below 38400.
>
> > persist option seemed to screw ppp connections subsequent to the
> > first. Not really needed if init respawns it for you.
>
> So I'll test without it. What do you exactly mean by "screw"?

;¬D.... okay, I'll bite!


Collins dictionary says:

screw (skru:)  n.
.
.

24. Taboo slang.to have sexual intercourse (with)


as in 'fucked' or 'fucked up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal All
Fucked Up), as in FUBAR (Fucked Up Beyond All Repair)

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> Barry
>
> If my memory serves correct, the Thinkjet was available in two
flavors of
> input.  The more common was the obvious parallel, but a serial
input
> model was available as well.  I do not know if this was a
standard
> offering or was made special for that company I worked with at
the time.
> But we did have them.  We shipped some with certain products
and used
> others with our test equip.  I will look through my archives,
but I doubt
> I have any info.  Was there any mention of this on the web?

I couldn't find much on the web.  But I was looking for MX80
stuff so I don't know.  I'm not familiar with that particular
printer but I've written MX80 drivers and, in particular,
drivers for Panasonic printers that could be in either IBM or
MX80 modes.  So I got pretty familiar with them.  The only HPs I
wrote drivers for were Lazerjet II printers.  And something for
an old plotter but I barely remember that.

Anyway someone said it had an MX80 mode and I was commenting on
how that can be used.

The Panasonic printers were the only serial printers I've dealt
with.  They came parallel and in most cases thats how we used
them but there was a replacement interface that would plug in
and make it a serial printer and I had to deal with that from
time to time.  Thats not an area I have a lot of knowlege about.

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Hi Stefan

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:49:46 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Thanks for the advice. I'll probably replace modem.com by port1.exe
> now in my setcom.bat. Have to build a new setcom.bat anyway.

At home now it turned out that port1.exe also seems to check CTS. It
reports "COM1 ready", even with only the other PC connected.

Any idea how to check reliably if there is a modem OR a PC at COM1 with
existing tools?

Thanks
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Harry Wellner wrote:
> During the make of TXT-file there is something what I do not
> understand. When opening TXT-file on my desktop Windows
> machine Window UtraEdit editor is trying to convert from Unix
> to DOS file format by opening the TXT-files. After conversion
> all is fine. But I am curious if somebody can explain
> something more about how a simple TXT-file can me recognized
> as a Unix file instead of a DOS file to prevent me from
> converting the TXT-files once when opening on a desktop
> machine.

A Dos text file has lines terminated by a carriage return
followed by a newline.  That's 0DAh or char(13)+char(10) at the
end of each line.  In some cases it may only be at the end of
each paragraph.

A unix text file has lines terminated by a newline only.  That's
0Ah or char(10).

A simple test for this is to load the file into Notepad.  It
handles the Dos files just fine but if it's a unix file the
lines don't terminate properly, they just run right on.  And you
probably will see a little black block where each line should
terminate.  It doesn't recognize the single newline as a line
terminator and instead tries to print it and I think the black
block is what it uses for an unknown character.

As far as I know this only works in Notepad.  Word or Write can
handle either kind of text file gracefully so you can't really
tell the difference.  But in Notepad you can.

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Chris Randle wrote:
> One caveat about the spit & shirt-sleeve
> technique (shame on you Ed ;-))
> although this warning applies to all techniques,
> is that wiping the crud, hard, across the
> screen might scratch it. Be gentle with the
> liquid phase until all grit is removed before
> polishing.

I once read some advice on comp.sys.laptops about cleaning the
screen that I think is the best ever.  I've always kept it in
mind.

It suggested that any cleaning of the screen might be harmful
and the wise course is to care for the screen in such a way that
it doesn't need cleaning.

I never touch mine or let anyone else touch it.  If I hand my
palmtop or laptop to someone I warn them first and keep my
baseball bat handy to swat away careless pointing fingers. :)

Ok I'm not that bad.  But I am careful.  Now and then if I see a
few specks of dust I'll simply blow them off the screen, gently,
with an ear cleaning type of syringe.  I have several laptops
and several PDAs of various kinds and still I don't think I
clean a screen more than every couple of years.  Then I just use
water and a soft cloth.

It can be done if you're willing to be fanatical and
unreasonable enough. :)

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The author's link is

http://www.financeprofessional.com/palcom.html

He has some other articles that may be of interest.

I also OCR'd the text if anyone wants it.

Bob

knerml wrote:
>
> There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
>
> The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
>
> In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
> using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
>
> M Stocker
>
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Avi,

 I used the script you provided and now have mochappp working fine at my =
home PC with a dial-up modem.  Pretty neat to be surfing and have the =
200lx retrieving/sending mail at the same time.

 Still, my goal is to get it working on my companys PC connected to the =
lan system.  I'll try this script next week, but suspect it will take a =
little more than that.  Anyone have any suggestions?

>
> İMochaPPP_Script¨
> s=3D\r
> @=3D3
>
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Can you clean up the OCRd article and post it to the list? Many thanks! I
am eager to see what this Windows CE user (former Windows CE user?) has to
say.

                                                        --Jessica
                                        (who is eagerly awaiting the
                                         shipment of her first 200LX!)

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Robert K. Meyer wrote:

> The author's link is
>
> http://www.financeprofessional.com/palcom.html
>
> He has some other articles that may be of interest.
>
> I also OCR'd the text if anyone wants it.
>
> Bob
>
> knerml wrote:
> >
> > There is an interesting article in the 01/02 edition of Pen Computing,
> > lamenting the demise of WinCE palmtops.
> >
> > The 200LX is intrgral to the article.
> >
> > In fact, the author mentions this list and states that he has reverted to
> > using his 200LX, until something better comes along.
> >
> > M Stocker
> >
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> --
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>
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Barry wrote:

> I never touch mine or let anyone else touch it.  If I hand my
> palmtop or laptop to someone I warn them first and keep my
> baseball bat handy to swat away careless pointing fingers. :)
>
> Ok I'm not that bad.

Oh sure.  <grin>

The technique for cleaning optics (lenses, filters, etc.) that I was
taught in my grad school laser lab, is to drop a bit of ethanol on the
surface, lightly lay a lens paper across it, and then pull the paper
horizontally across and off of the surface.

With my 200LX I also avoid touching it, but it invariably needs to be
cleaned every so often.  I gently blow off as much dust as I can, find a
soft cotton cloth, moisten the surface with a bit of pure water, and
then gently wipe.

--
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Folks,
I can buy an Accton Ethernet card. On the back it has
EN2216-2 1  as tag. It is complete.

Is this the right card for the LX? The seller asks about $20 (in guilders
though...)
Is that a decent price?

Michel

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<<  may I publish your excellent description on my homepage?  >>

Let's wait a few days. It is not working on my Win/ME machine here. And as I wrote - I'll put this together as a FAQ on D=
&A Software website anyway, so you can refer to it with a link. I'll give it a special name so you can refer to it with a=
 direct link...

  avi

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Hi,

anybody running MATLAB on 95LX?  Old versions like v3.5
is known to run on 200LX with a co-processor emulator.
Now, it's also known that 8087 cannot be emulated on
8086. Can it be emulated then on V20 (95LX)? Probably not.
So, does anyone still keep has the old student version
compiled with software floating-point that runs without
a co-processor? I've ask for this on Usenet and one told
me that he's destroyed (or thrown away) all these floppies!
What a pitty!

And does anyone know a CAS (Computer algebra system) for
200LX other than derive? I mean something like what the
HP49 calculator does. (I do not have one (not even HP48g).

What's the CAS ability of our palmtops? Far less developed
than the good old 48G?

Rudi

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From my notes (in other words, from postings on this list):
- EN2216-2 uses 70-90ma active.  However, if you unplug the
network cable and leave the dongle plugged in, it shoots up to
about 350-400ma. The EN2216-1 is probably lower. documentation
lists the power usage at 130mA at 5V using RJ-45 (280mA using
BNC).
- the EN2216-1 uses 110 mA while the EN2216-2 (i.e. with coax)
uses 200 mA. The current limit for the HP200LX being 150 mA, the
EN2216-2 will not work while the EN2216-1 is OK.



However I seem to recall people mentioning they used 2216-2
without problems, as long as they used  only the RJ45 connector.
The 2216-1 has only a RJ45 connector, while the 2216-2 has both
a BNC connector and a RJ45
I seem to recall I bought my 2216-1 for 20$ two years ago
(+shipping, duties,VAT), so I figure your present offer is fair.

Good lmuck

Etienne
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| Folks,
| I can buy an Accton Ethernet card. On the back it has
| EN2216-2 1  as tag. It is complete.
|
| Is this the right card for the LX? The seller asks about $20
(in guilders
| though...)
| Is that a decent price?
|
| Michel
|
| ** HPLX-L LIST Info at
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
|
|

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PEN COMPUTING MAGAZINE January 2002 www.pencomputing.com

MOURNING A LOST PLATFORM

By Wayne E. Yang

Why is that you can get either a big keyboard or no keyboard
at all?

I have finally retired my handheld Hewlett Packard 320LX,
which though a bit worn from years of service managed to
find a new home through Ebay months ago. The front latch and
stylus were gone, but the bidding among the four interested
parties was reasonably heated, and before I knew it my
palmtop was sold.

Not that I have sworn off "checkbook" sized machines. Unlike
others who complained about the small size of the early
handheld Windows CE machines, I remain enamored of firm,
tactile "qwerty" keyboards, and though my HP 320LX is gone,
an even older DOS-based HP 200LX has taken its place while I
evaluate whether I want to fight with its legacy operating
system or consider another machine. The HP 200LX, my
favorite palmtop of all time, was and is made for techies
who like hot keys, macros and batch files. When Hewlett
Packard chose to discontinue the HP 200LX, my excitement for
personal digital assistants was deflated. I have never
really forgiven Hewlett Packard for discontinuing the HP
200LX, but if I were to be totally aboveboard, I and others
like me were more victims of Palm's success at finally and
truly making the palmtop popular on a mass scale. The
problem is that an assembly line mentality still pervades
the personal digital assistant market, even as desktop
manufacturers have begun configuring machines to user
specifications.

I bought the HP 320LX when it first came out, because I
feared getting left behind in what I thought would be a
tectonic shift in the PDA market towards Windows CE. I
bought the machine at a liquidation price at an Egghead
store (the company at that time was closing all its physical
locations). At first, the novelty of having mini versions of
MS Office applications was exciting, but it wore off over
time. The processor was faster and more elaborate than that
of my old HP 200LX, but the operating system was likewise
more complex and bloated, and the device thus seemed slower,
not faster. The HP 320LX boasted a wider screen, but the
screen also made the device larger and heavier than the HP
200LX, 11 ounces versus the sprightly eight ounces of the HP
200LX. The stripped down Pocket Excel was laughable for
anyone used to any of the full versions.

The HP 320LX sat in my apartment for months, lightly used,
until the idea of reading e-books on the device grabbed hold
of me. Once I became accustomed to reading a
horizontally-oriented book, I knocked down some hefty
classical tomes that had been on my reading list for years:
Tolstoy's War and Peace and Anna Karenina, Joseph Conrad's
The Jungle, D.H. Lawrence's Sons and Lovers, Thomas Hardy's
Jude the Obscure. As much utility as I finally got out of
the HP 320LX, though, at the end of the day it was too big
for me to comfortably stuff into the back pocket of my
jeans, much less the breast pocket of a suit. Others since
then have tried to convince me that Windows CE has made
quantum leaps since its clumsy beginnings, but the machines
only seem to have gotten larger. I own an IBM Wordpad z50
and a Sharp PV-6000-both Windows CE-based handheld PCs. They
are useful, but not small enough to become my daily personal
information manager. Hewlett Packard's own Jornada 720
handheld PC is a fine machine, but again much heavier than
the original little handhelds. The Compaq iPAQ does not do
it former journalist. I need a keyboard.

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PEN COMPUTING MAGAZINE January 2002 www.pencomputing.com

MOURNING A LOST PLATFORM

By Wayne E. Yang

Although I am tempted, I cannot really blame Hewlett Packard
for abandoning checkbook-sized machine aficionados like me.
I am sure that somewhere in Austin or Singapore or wherever
the company makes its decisions these days, a marketing
person determined that there were not enough people like me.
Maybe they are right. Not everyone appreciates the numerical
keypad of the HP 200LX like those of us in the financial
industry. A product planner might simply view a keypad as a
waste of already precious keyboard real estate.

Psion made a less than stellar foray, at least from a
marketing point of view, into the checkbook-sized market
with its Revo. What stumps me, however, is why Hewlett
Packard, Compaq, Palm, Casio and Handspring all seem to be
chasing the exact same markets: why do they believe that
there are only two key markets, large keyboards or no
keyboards at all.

They have relegated the rest of us to using legacy machines.
Someone in the HP 200LX community has created software to
convert the contacts database to and from MS Outlook, but it
is not quite ActiveSync. A vendor has created web browsing
software, but such an application MS Pocket Explorer comes
"free" on Windows CE machines. Still, supporters of the
HP200LX remain staunch. One vendor that sells refurbished HP
200LXes says that it has sold or serviced 12,000 of the
units since they were discontinued. A user group in Japan
has floated the idea of a user built DOS-based palmtop and
has even supplied specifications for the machine on the web.
An email mailing list remains heavily trafficked with tips
and suggestions on how to use the device. So for now I am
going to be a Luddite and explore how to again use one of
these age-old 80186 machines-until someone begins
manufacturing a small palmtop for people like me, or until I
lose heart again, go with the flow, and buy the kind of
machine that everyone else is getting.

Wayne E. Yang works for a Connecticut-based private equity
fund. His writing has appeared in The North American Review,
The Christian Science Monitor and other publications. He can
be reached at wayne_yang@yahoo.com.

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Many, many, many thanks. Good reading! :)


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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Robert K. Meyer wrote:

> I sent it in two parts. We'll see if it chokes. Anyway, it
> is also attached.
>
> hplx@twu.net wrote:
> >
> > Can you clean up the OCRd article and post it to the list? Many thanks! I
> > am eager to see what this Windows CE user (former Windows CE user?) has to
> > say.
> >
> >                                                         --Jessica
> >                                         (who is eagerly awaiting the
> >                                          shipment of her first 200LX!)
>
> I would probably give up my laptop first!
>
> Bob
> --
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Hello Group

I use the Dos version of the Collins and have recently transfered
it to my 200LX. It works ok except for three problems. 1) I can't
use it with graphical applications only text, 2) I can't load the
pop-up tsr before Software Carousel, I have to load it in
individual sc windows otherwise I lock up my computer when I try to
activate the pop-up with the hot-key sequence and 3) I can't use
it with some programs that swap out to a text editor like post/LX
does. It doesn't work with Post/LX but it works with PNR. Go
figure. So has
anyone figured out these problems and know of a work around? I
don't have much hope of (1) since it even states in the
documentation that it only supports WP 6.0 graphical interface.
Does WP 6.0 run on the 200LX? But what about (2) & (3)?

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Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:49:51 +1300 (NZDT)

ROBOWEB/LX 1.2 is now available in roboweb.zip at

http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb/
and
http://www.geocities.com/aghutchins/

It basically works the same as before, but has an additional
feature enabling digs to be scheduled. For this feature the
outbox displays the next due date of the dig. Digs can be
scheduled in daily units or in terms of minutes and hours.
Certain days and months can be excluded. The scheduling can be
by the clock, or relative to the time of the last dig.

So, you can allocate digs to the morning or evening, and
exclude them on Sundays, for example. Or, stock quotes can be
downloaded every hour.

A POST/LX macro is provided so that an outbox can be sorted in
date order, with a separator record dated today also inserted.
This way the digs that will happen on the next run can be
shown. A dig which is not due can be forced to run by marking
it with a "diamond" mark.

My thanks to Hans Peter Staber for designing and testing this.
The testing is ongoing, but the scripts seem OK now.

I also extended the rwiso2ch.txt file to include a few more
characters.

The instructions for using the new "Freq" or scheduling feature
are in RWHIST.DOC. The ROBOWEB.ZIP file is nearer 190K rather
than the 180K size shown on the web pages.

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Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:17:54 +1300 (NZDT)

08h32m56s ago ...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:44:58 +0200, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Hello Group
>
> I use the Dos version of the Collins and have recently
> transfered it to my 200LX. It works ok except for three
> problems. 1) I can't use it with graphical applications
> only text,

Which text applications do you use it with?

> 2) I can't load the pop-up tsr before Software Carousel, I
> have to load it in individual sc windows otherwise I lock
> up my computer when I try to activate the pop-up with the
> hot-key sequence and

I seem to remember the note that comes with it recommending
that the TSR-mode is not used.

> 3) I can't use it with some programs that swap out to a text
> editor like post/LX  does. It doesn't work with Post/LX
> but it works with PNR. Go figure.

How does it work with PNR itself? What do you do with it? Do
you mean it doesn't work with PalEdit editor - that runs in
graphics mode.

> So has anyone figured out these problems and know of a
> work around? I don't have much hope of (1) since it even
> states in the documentation that it only supports WP 6.0
> graphical interface.  Does WP 6.0 run on the 200LX? But
> what about (2) & (3)?

AFAIK WP5.1 runs, but I haven't heard of a leter WP version
running. Probably no other way around (2). I don't quite follow
you on (3), but possibly maxdos might help, if the problem
seems memory related.

- Tony

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> anybody running MATLAB on 95LX?  Old versions like v3.5
> is known to run on 200LX with a co-processor emulator.
> Now, it's also known that 8087 cannot be emulated on
> 8086. Can it be emulated then on V20 (95LX)? Probably not.

Have you tried?

> And does anyone know a CAS (Computer algebra system) for
> 200LX other than derive? I mean something like what the
> HP49 calculator does. (I do not have one (not even HP48g).

Why not Derive? it runs well on the 200 (or the 95 even, but slower). I
haven't seen anything else merely half as useful for the LX. It's just a
shame Derive doesn't have an RPN Stack interface like the HP48, but that's
just my preference of course ;-)

> What's the CAS ability of our palmtops? Far less developed
> than the good old 48G?

You mean built-in? yes, but a 48G without additional programs (of which
you cannot fit many in the 32kb RAM) is not too hot when it comes to
symbolic math either...


Regards,

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Date:         Fri, 21 Dec 2001 23:22:03 -0400
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Hi.

There is a Emulator for 200LX, or (a good one) for a 8086 with CGA?


Thanks.

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Yes, it appears in the January issue. I got quite a kick from your message, because I happen to be from South Carolina (Northeast Columbia) originally myself.
Best regards,
Wayne
>>> Beginning to wonder if South Carolina is in a time warp.
I saw when the author of this article posted the notice that it was
coming
out in the next issue a few weeks ago.  The most recent issue Pen
Computing
that I've gotten was November 2001 and it was delivered about 2 weeks
ago (a
couple weeks after the announcement).  Searching the magazine from
front to
back and I don't find anything about the 200LX.  I figure that it is
going
to come out in the December issue.  All of you start talking about
reading
the article so I go to www.pencomputing.com and see that the cover they
display as current is the November 2001.  Ok guys, where are you
getting the
Jan. 2002 magazines?
bob
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<P>Wayne
<P>&gt;&gt;&gt; Beginning to wonder if South Carolina is in a time warp.<BR>I saw when the author of this article posted the notice that it was <BR>coming<BR>out in the next issue a few weeks ago.&nbsp; The most recent issue Pen <BR>Computing<BR>that I've gotten was November 2001 and it was delivered about 2 weeks <BR>ago (a<BR>couple weeks after the announcement).&nbsp; Searching the magazine from <BR>front to<BR>back and I don't find anything about the 200LX.&nbsp; I figure that it is <BR>going<BR>to come out in the December issue.&nbsp; All of you start talking about <BR>reading<BR>the article so I go to www.pencomputing.com and see that the cover they<BR>display as current is the November 2001.&nbsp; Ok guys, where are you <BR>getting the<BR>Jan. 2002 magazines?<BR>bob<BR>&lt;snip&gt;<BR>&nbsp;</P><BR><BR><P>Wayne E. Yang<BR>=============<BR><A href="mailto:wayne_yang@yahoo.com">wayne_yang@yahoo.com</A></P><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:15:51 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,

Hello there

> However, it would be nicer to connect the palmtop via serial cable to
> the Linux box, because this makes PCMCIA card swapping superfluous. At
> least everytime I only want to download email, and this is by far the
> most often usage here. ;-)

How is the speed running WWW/LX on ethernet compared to serial?

I use a EN2216-1 now and the speed is okey. But I am running out of
discspace so I may need the memorycard soon. Serial would be the way to
go then, but I do not want have the speed be reduced to much.

So how is it?

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:59:32 +0100, Etienne Lemaire wrote:

> However I seem to recall people mentioning they used 2216-2
> without problems, as long as they used  only the RJ45 connector.
> The 2216-1 has only a RJ45 connector, while the 2216-2 has both
> a BNC connector and a RJ45
> I seem to recall I bought my 2216-1 for 20$ two years ago
> (+shipping, duties,VAT), so I figure your present offer is fair.

Tomas Moberg and me uses the -2 card without problem. I also used the
BNC on that card without a problem(but I think I remember some problems
due to power draw). But I stopped because somebody said it used too
much power. Now I use a -1 card but I still have a -2 card.

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Laust wrote:

> Have you tried?

Yes. I once believed that the old ver. 3.5a of MATLAB running on
my 200LX (with EM87.COM v1.2 by Ron Kimball) would also run on
the 95LX. After I got my 95LX and enough disk space, I even
loaded the whole MATLAB to the HP95LX.  No, the emulator
EM87.COM does not run on the 95LX (NEC V20). And then I've tried
ALL that were available (via web-search). Nothing. Then, I went
on google-group-searching and found out that 8087 cannot not be
emulated on a 8086. (I believe the 8086 was addressed, not V20).
The emulators I've tried either tested the CPU and refused to
run, or, it installed but PCMATLAB refused to run because it
could not see a coprocessor.

BTW, for our members who do not know google yet. Try

        http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

or simply

        http://groups.google.com/

I highly recommend it to you. I do not know how they survice
(financially), but there is no AD's and this is almost the best
way to benifit from the internet/usenet. It is extremely useful
for myself and I almost always have it on screen on the UNIX-box
I'm working on.  I'm willing to pay if I have to in the future.
*Because* I should not be the first on this globe to ask for
an 8087-emulator for 8086 or a MATLAB version that would run on
my palmtop. So, I very often got an immediate answer whenever
I have a quesiton, and satisfyingly.

> Why not Derive? it runs well on the 200 (or the 95 even, but slower). I
> haven't seen anything else merely half as useful for the LX. It's just a
> shame Derive doesn't have an RPN Stack interface like the HP48, but that's
> just my preference of course ;-)

I don't know how far DERIVE supports matrix algebra. Would
anyone please give me a hint?  My wish is that at least the
following functions should be built-in in the CAS:
LU-decomposition, QR- decomp. Eigen-decomposition, SVD (I call
it *the* algebraic swiss knife), ... and that user-programmable
numerical iteration should be supported. These are supported on
the HP48 by third-party software. They are support on the HP49
*built-in*. The HP49 even does *symbolic* eigen-decomposition!
And I've even heard that (again, from google-group-search) the
CAS on HP49 outputs a principle vector in place of a "missing"
eigenvector when the matrix is defective! That good idea
interests me very much. :)  As for RPN, I still really have to
try to work with it. Where do I obtain free material,
application notes, to introduce myself into RPN, so that I can't
live without it?  I'm seriously considering getting myself a
HP49. But I'll also be asking myself, why do I have to, when I
already have a 200LX in my pocket? (Which, supports so many
programming languages for free.)

Rudi

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Dear All,

Someone sent me this.  If it really works I think everybody should know
(but only if it works).  All the email client gurus out there care to
comment on this?

Neo Sia Meng


     >     I learned a computer trick today that's really ingenious in
its
     >simplicity.
     >
     >    As you may know, when/if a worm virus gets into your computer
it heads
     >straight for your email address book and sends itself to everyone
in
     >there,thus infecting all your friends and associates.
     >
     >     This trick won't keep the virus from getting into your
computer, but it
     >will stop it from using your address book to spread further, and
it will
     >alert you to the fact that the worm has gotten into your system.
     >
     >     Here's what you do:  First, open your address book and click
on "new
     >contact" or "new person"  just as you would do if you were adding
a new
     >friend to your list of email addresses.
     >
     >      In the window where you would type your friend's FIRST name,
type in
     >!000 (that's an exclamation mark followed by 3 zeros).  In the
window below
     >where it prompts you to enter the new email address, type in
WormAlert.
     >Then complete everything by clicking add, enter, OK, etc.
     >
     >       Now, here's what you've done and why it works: the "name"
!000 will be
     >placed at the top of your address book as entry #1.  This will be
where the
     >worm will start in an effort to send itself to all your friends.
     >
     >      But  when it tries to send itself to !000, it will be
undeliverable
     >because of the phony email address you entered (WormAlert).  If
the first
     >attempt fails (which it will because of the phony address), the
worm goes no
     >further and your friends will not be infected.
     >
     >       Here's the second great advantage of this method: if an
email cannot be
     >delivered, you will be notified of this in your InBox almost
immediately.
     >
     >      Hence, if you ever get an email telling you that an email
addressed to
     >WormAlert could not be delivered, you know right away that you
have the worm
     >virus in your system. You can then take steps to get rid of it!
     >
     >      Pretty slick huh?
     >
     >       If everybody you know does this then you needn't ever worry
about
     >opening mail from friends.   Pass this on to all your friends.
     >

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If anyone finds this, please CC me. I would love one.


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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Eduardo Moreno A. wrote:

> Hi.
>
> There is a Emulator for 200LX, or (a good one) for a 8086 with CGA?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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Well, there's Bochs-- but it's a slow piece of crap ;)

                                                        --Jessica

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Eduardo Moreno A. wrote:

> Hi.
>
> There is a Emulator for 200LX, or (a good one) for a 8086 with CGA?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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Hi Michel

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:39:13 +0100, "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM> wrote:

> Folks,
> I can buy an Accton Ethernet card. On the back it has
> EN2216-2 1  as tag. It is complete.
>
> Is this the right card for the LX? The seller asks about $20 (in guilders
> though...)
> Is that a decent price?

Yes, buy it!
20$ is good, but be sure to use the EN2216-2 only with the RJ45
Ethernet, but with BNC/Coaxial: The 2216-2 has a BNC connector in
addition to the RJ45 (the 2216-1 only has RJ45), but the BNC Ethernet
needs more power than the RJ45 one, and the 200LX can't provide enough
power.

BTW: Your CD arrived today, thanks very much.
Please let me know what you want for it.

I have not looked into it, but will do so this weekend! :-)

GTX
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Hi Ed

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:42:52 -0500, Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> yep, iptables is easier but I was using a 2.2 kernel.. no iptables for
> that.

Ah, yes. I remember.
2.2 requires iptables. But does ipchains also work for 2.4 kernels?

> > > persist option seemed to screw ppp connections subsequent to the
> > > first. Not really needed if init respawns it for you.
> >
> > So I'll test without it. What do you exactly mean by "screw"?
>
> ;¬D.... okay, I'll bite!
>
> Collins dictionary says:
>
> screw (skru:)  n.
> .
> .
>
> 24. Taboo slang.to have sexual intercourse (with)
>
> as in 'fucked' or 'fucked up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal All
> Fucked Up), as in FUBAR (Fucked Up Beyond All Repair)

oops. ;-)
Well, I didn't want to know it _that_ exactly. ;-)
I actually meant what it means exactly to your PPP connection.
Or has "persist" sometimes sexual intercourse with your PPP connection?

Well, I have removed persist, too, and it doesn't seem to make any
difference for me.

BTW: If someone has something to add to the descriptions on my
internet_sharing page, please let me know! I think it is still
incomplete. But I don't know much about this whole topic. I'm glad it
works for me...

GTX
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Hi,

as I've said, I'm hacking the LXSTAT for *all* LX's palmtops
and more features. One bad thing is that the size of the binary
is growing. Please allow me to say: I hate that!
The new version is currently 25649 bytes (pklited). The source
is a single C-file of size 192159 bytes (incl. comments).

My question is:

   How do I make (using TCC v2.0) the binary even smaller?
   (Or do you suggest another compiler? An ANSI one please.)

And yes, please give me any advice even if that only reduces
it by 1 byte. Because the program is very string-manipulation
oriented (for a "natural" command-line-interface), rewriting
it in assembly language will kill me.

I'll describe as follows the efforts I've done thus far.
Please comment if you have objection or better idea. Also,
please explain me things if you notice that I don't quite
understand something. And, let's make, for the time being,
readability, maintainability, ... and so on minor issues.)

* I do use "goto" that is usually considered a "bad" style
  whenever it saves me some bytes. :)

* I use inline ASM whenever I know that it reduces the
  size. But it's not quite clear to me, when exactly will
  the binary smaller. Would you also experiment and share
  your results? I'm not sure which registers I'll have to
  push. And, I have no idea how Turbo C is doing it when
  C-statements and inline-ASM are strongly interleaved
  inside a function.  But please don't tell me to read the
  assembly output. I can't read that language of angels!
  Or you'll have to teach me that. :)

* More functions seem to increase the size. So, I'm
  eliminating unnecessary modulization and combining
  them to a single function.

* I avoid local variables and try to share some global
  ones whenever it is safe. (Of source, this is destroying
  capsulation, but ... it's a minor issue now.)

* More arguments to be passed to a function seeem to
  increase the size. So, I pass them via global variables
  whenever encapsulation is not absolutely necessary.
  Sometimes I do need an argument, for example, scanning
  the serial-ports at different base-addresses by the
  same function.

* I compile with

        tcc -d -mt -lt -O -Z

  but -d (merge duplicate strings) sometimes does not work.
  That is, the output of help-messages are corrupted.  But not
  always.

Thanks in advance!
Rudi

PS. Turbo C/TCC is a freely available 16-bit ANSI C compiler
    by Borland and runs on all of our palmtops (incl. 95LX).

PS. This thread would not be strongly duplicating any
    that has been on the Usenet, because I've searched.

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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> I've been trying to generalize LXSTAT for all maschines
> in the LX-family and am suffering under lack of technical
> documentation of 95LX.  I haev done some work by exhaustive
> search of the I/O ports and BIOS data area ... :( and it's
> extremely time-consuming. I hope you could help me on that.
> I need description of the BIOS data area and the I/O ports
> of the 95LX which is quite different from those of 100/200LX
> using Hornet chipset.

I have a bunch of utilities written for the 95lx that come with
a windows help file that explains their functions.  There's no
source but about 4/5 of them are written in assembly and only a
hundred or two hundred bytes long so it'll be easy to see how
they work.  It probably won't be a lot harder to trace the
functionality of the c programs.

If you want to send me a private email I'll send it to you in a
reply.

There's also a lot of information about 95lx in Ralf Brown's
interrupt list.

> * Anybody has noticed that the Timer0 (of 8254) on
>   the 95LX is running on mode 0? (while 100/200LX
>   in mode 3 like most PC's) What's going on there
>   with the three 8254-channels on the 95LX?
>   Any comments? And there is an very interesting
>   effect to reprogram the Timer0 of 95LX to mode 3
>   (using a new version of LxStat) and "IC.COM 8".
>   I need explanations ...

There's a bug in the Jaguar's emulation of the 8254 chip in mode
3.  Mode 0 works correctly and can be used in the same way with
a slightly changed technique.  I first ran into this problem way
back when in the days when the 95lx was king, while trying to
write a background music driver for a silly little animation I
did.

I mentioned it on Compuserve's HPHAND where there were such
luminaries as Mark Scardinia but no work-around was offered.
Then a new guy joind the forum.  I wish I could remember his
name.  He was student who had played with the 95lx the first
half of the summer.  He spent the second half of the summer
telling all of us things we didn't know about the 95lx.  Then he
was gone.  Sometimes I wonder if it was a dream. :)

Anyway he was the one who conceived the idea of using mode 0 as
a workaround for that bug.  I'd never used anything but mode 3
so it never occurred to me to look into the other modes.  I was
still trying to get mode 3 to work.

I have some notes about this somewhere but they might not be
possible to find at this late date.  All that old stuff is on
floppies and I have a couple of thousand poorly organized
floppies.  I used to just know where everything was but that's
no longer the case.  I will look.

> * While on the 100/200LX the BIOS time are the RTC
>   time are always synchronized on deep-sleep-wakeup,
>   they are always synchronized on the 95LX. That is,
>   I can make the heart-beats much faster (e.g. 60 Hz),
>   on my 200LX, and then the BIOS time will run faster.
>   But they are synchonized by pressing OFF/ON. On the
>   other hand I never have made it to disturb the BIOS
>   time on 95LX.

The timer isr I wrote for the 95 works fine on the 100/200 lx
with no interference with the clock.  I can't remember now but I
think it ran the clock about  100 times faster and then called
the int 8 handler every 1/100th time.  That worked cleanly on
the 95 and the same code worked fine on the 200lx.  Although I
made that determination many years ago and haven't looked since,
so I could remember that wrong.  Offhand I can't think of any
reason it would be a problem on the 100/200lx.  By the way that
does use mode 0.

> == Non 95-specific ==
>
> * What's an algorithm for determining if there is a
>   battery on the PCMCIA card?

There was some method of getting the condition (probably the
voltage) of the card battery.  If LXSTAT is the program that
shows a bargraph of the 3 batteries it uses that technique.  A
trace should find it.  I also might have some notes on it.  I
don't know if this will help determine if there is a battery
because I've never dealt with this and I don't know what is
returned if there's not a battery but it's worth checking out.

I think I have the program I'm thinking of if it's not LXSTAT.
I'll look for that, too.

Barry

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g. van wirdum wrote:
The 200 LX does not talk HP-IL, allthough I believe there was a
third-party IL-module somehow for it in the early LX years.


Anyone knows more about this? Or would still have it?

I have a HP-IL video interface that I might dig up and put to
use

Etienne

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Printers


| I would have to check which one the 2225C is, but I do have a
2225B here.
| The difference probably is the interface. Mine has HP-IL, and
I used it (it
| still works, but I use it only very occasionally) with the
HP-41
| programmable calcuputers and the HP Portable Plus "laptop".
Great machines,
| all these! The 200 LX does not talk HP-IL, allthough I believe
there was a
| third-party IL-module somehow for it in the early LX years.
|
| If your interface is serial, or if you have a suitable
interface adapter,
| the Thinkjet should work with the LX. It accepts, according to
a
| soft-switchable mode, Epson printing codes and a more powerful
early (the
| earliest?) version of HP-laserprinter codes (PCL, perhaps
avant le mot). In
| case you need, I could scan or photocopy the complete code
tables for you
| (but allow some time...). I actually wrote a graphics printer
driver for the
| Thinkjet for use with the T-Master programme suite (does that
still exist?).
| It was an excellent printer for those days, with quite good
graphics
| capabilities, too. I assume most anything the built-in laser
printer driver
| of the LX sends to a printer is understood by the Thinkjet.
|
| Be aware there are two types of printer cartridges for it. The
one (HP
| 92261A) is for special inkjet paper (the white, smooth
quality, HP 92261N
| for 2500 Z-folded sheets A4), the other (HP 51604 A, same as
Canon CJ-3A)
| for normal paper. I am not sure the 92261 numbers still exist,
but about a
| year ago there was no problem to obtain the 51604A or the
Canon).
|
| Enjoy,
| Geert.
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Thanks for posting the Pen Computing article.

In the article, Wayne Yang says "Someone in the HP 200LX community has
created software to
convert the contacts database to and from MS Outlook"

Does anyone know what is this software and where can I get it from?

Thanks.

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I find this language offensive and I request, again, that it not
be used on the list.
Profanity is the last refuge of the expressive ignoramus.
No offense, but, if the shoe fits...

Richard

Ed Padin wrote:
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"as in 'f***ed' or 'f***ed up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal
All
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If it has a serial port, then it will work.

The cartridges should still be available on the HP web site,
at least it was about a year ago when I checked. I still
have a couple outdated unopened HP92261A cartridges and an
unopened pack of Z-Fold HP inkjet paper. Anyone make an
offer?

Bob

Leo Bellantoni wrote:
>
> Hi,
>         I just scavenged an HP ThinkJet printer - its a model 2225c in the
> hopes of using it with my 200.  I do not yet know if it is an ASCII-input
> type device or if it wants some other thing eg PostScript or who knows
> what else.  Has anyone succesfully connected this printer up to an LX?
> Thanks!
>                                               Leo
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Pager:(630)266-3803       "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils."
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Re the question about HP-IL on the LX, I found this in the Palmtop Paper
archives. Apart from this, HP itself made software programmable interface
adapters which had their own power source. I have one of these, a serial if
I remember well, and perhaps I can dig it up these days and see whether I
can make a connection between some HP-IL device and the 200LX. Here is the
quotation:

The HP-IL Adapter
This adapter adds an HP-IL interface to your 95LX, without giving up your
RAM card slot or your serial port.  The HP-IL interface occupies the memory
card slot, adding the HP-IL interface and another RAM card slot (i.e.  you
don't loose your card slot).  It allows you to use HP-IL printers, disk
drives, plotters, modems, and video displays.
Availability........  Dec 15, 92
Pricing........  $275
CONTACT: Interloop, Inc., 706 Charcot Avenue, San Jose, CA 95131, USA;
Phone: 408-922-0520; Fax: 408-922-0545.

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Thanks Robert....

Great article.

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Morphy One????I think it's a dead idea....

Someone please correect mec if I am wrong.

What I would like to see is a replacement screen for the 100/200LX that =
is backlite.

I mean...how hard could that be for a manfactururing group in Taiwan or =
Hong Kong....??  Especially with the price of all electronic parts in =
the gutter.

I guess it comes down to quantity/demand

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  any word on if it is out and available????=20

  Tony=20


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Hey guys,

I apologize for taking so long to get my 32meg DS relisted on ebay. It's =
been a busy week. But for those of you who have written, and are =
waiting, here it is...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1313573090

Thanks,

Mike...

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I apologize for taking so long to get =
my 32meg DS=20
relisted on ebay. It's been a busy week. But for those of you who have =
written,=20
and are waiting, here it is...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1313=
573090">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1313=
573090</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> At home now it turned out that port1.exe also seems to check CTS. It
> reports "COM1 ready", even with only the other PC connected.
>
> Any idea how to check reliably if there is a modem OR a PC at COM1 with
> existing tools?

I have no idea for a solution at the moment. You also said, you
use an IR connection at university. The problem with IR is,
that every sent character is immediately echoed by the
hardware. That means, a simple check for an echo coming from
the modem with a wired connection does not work for IR, because
IR always echos, even with nothing connected at all. Checking
for an OK as answer to AT means to implement full interrupt
driven serial communication for the utility, which is overkill
IMHO.

Stefan

overkill.

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sponsor@ftel.net writes:
> Let's wait a few days. It is not working on my Win/ME machine here. And as I wrote - I'll put this together as a FAQ on D&A Software website anyway, so you can refer to it with a link. I'll give it a special name so you can refer to it with a direct link...

Dont be discouraged. I have runit on WinMe, WinNt, Win95 & Win98.

WinMe Hebrew edition even works without reversing the order of the packets (VBG).

The only tweaking I have had to use is to set the DNS server and the SMTP
server for each site I am connecting from.


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Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:13:42 +1300 (NZDT)

2 days 02h07m35s ago ...
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:06:07 +1300 (NZDT), Tony Hutchins wrote:

> The testing is ongoing, but the scripts seem OK now.

I spoke too soon - Helmuth found a serious error! Fixed as of
now in the new upload. Also there is a new presse.o in there.

In case you did use the new scripts - on old digs, then
unfortunately the "Date:" header in the outbox will have been
improerly extended. If you edit the outbox in an editor and
press Fn-END on a Date: line you will see it goes to position
41. It should only go to 40. So, juat put the cursor bac to
column 40 and delete the rest of the line (Ctrl-X K in
PalEdit). Resave.

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Hi,

I see with pleasure that more users are using MochaPPP (even via IRDA) to
access the internet and that the group knowledge is increasing in this
field.

However I still face the problem on accessing the net through a proxy =
server
at the office and I suppose that a number of you will also face this =
problem
sooner or later.

My proxy server requires Authentication which is supported in HTTP/1.1
compliant browsers but not by WWW/LX.

I managed to make it work at home but it does not work at the office. The
office pc uses a Proxy server hence I have Inserted the line
"HTTP_Proxy=3Dproxy.xxx.com:port" in www/lx.

Despite this, when I launch WWW/LX and try to access e.g. www.dasoft.com, =
I
get the message reproduced below.

  ---------------
  ERROR: Cache Access Denied
  While trying to retrieve the URL:
  http://www.dasoft.com/
  The following error was encountered:
  Cache Access Denied.
  Sorry, you are not currently allowed to request:
     http://www.dasoft.com/
  from this cache until you have authenticated yourself.

  You need to use Netscape version 2.0 or greater, or Microsoft Internet
  Explorer 3.0, or an HTTP/1.1 compliant browser for this to work.  =
Please
  contact the cache administrator if you have difficulties authenticating
  yourself or change your default password.

  Generated Tue, 09 Oct 2001 12:10:52 GMT by
  Squid/2.2.STABLE5
  ------------------

The question really is whether www/lx supports password authentication =
via
a LAN connection. How can I setup WWW/LX to authenticate myself and be =
able
to use the LAN proxy server. It is only a matter of sending an ID and
Password to the Proxy.

If there is a demand for this maybe can we convince Dasoft and Andreas to
implement HTTP 1.1 into WWW/LX.  If www/lx can not do it yet, has anyone =
had
success with another mail client for the HP200LX via a Proxy server
(e.g.PNR) ?

Thanks,

 \/
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This is a new challenge for Daniel ;)

The question has been asked here how to implement Bluetooth in the HPLX. =
The
general consensus is that any CF Card Bluetooth device will require a
specific driver and will anyhow use too much current beyond the 150mA.

When you look at an Ericsson T39 it has both IR and Bluetooth connectivity=
.
The HP200LX has IR connection. Hence the idea : Is there a way to program =
the
T39 to connect its IR port to its Bluetooth port as a passthrough. The =
T39
would become effectively a Bluetooth modem connected to the HPLX via
the Infrared port. No additional cable, no extra power requirement, no =
extra
hardware

  HP200LX-IR >>>>>>>  IR-T39-Bluetooth >>>>>>>  Bluetooth-Network

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Mark,

> using a desktop with no IR dongle then this will not work for you).  I
> use MochaPPP mostly when I want to pick up my email over my network
> at work.  In both cases I use IR to connect - who needs cables!

This is a great idea, I just re-configured WWW/LX to use IR port for
MochaPPP connection and asked MochaPPP to monitor COM4 on my Libretto
(Win95) and it works. This message is sent via the Libretto IR port
connected to the Internet at 56kBPS with NO CABLE between HP200LX and
Libretto.

Thanks,

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I got a mail from yahoo recently about how they will be changing their
smtp servers so that they require authentication. I looked at postlx
and could not find a place where you can set this up.

------------ from yahoo below

In order to enhance your email experience, beginning on January 15,
2002, Yahoo! Mail will begin using authenticated SMTP to send mail
from POP3 clients such as Outlook and Eudora.

Outlook and Outlook Express
To configure authenticated SMTP in Outlook Express:
From the Tools menu, select "Accounts..."
Highlight your Yahoo! Mail account (it may be called
pop.mail.yahoo.com).
Click the "Properties" button on the right side.
Choose the "Servers" tab.
Check the box next to "My server requires authentication."
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Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:05:21 -0500
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"No offense, but, if the shoe fits..."?

I see... so I should not take offense at being labeled an 'ignoramus'?

Perhaps I should have considered the sensibilities of the list members
before using profane language but at least it was not intended as a
personal attack. I think that the spirit of a message carries more
weight than the semantics. The spirit of my message was a feeble
attempt at some lighthearted humor and was mostly harmless.

The spirit of your message was to insult. My gut reaction would be to
respond in kind, using a good bit of profanity, but this time I don't
think I'll bite.

Later.


BTW: from the collins dictionary:
"4. holier-than-thou.offensively sanctimonious or self-righteous:a
holier-than-thou attitude."

I submit that this reference to a very valuable LX tool in expressing
one's thoughts will, in some small measure, keep this message 'on
topic'.


ABTW: This is a quote from me, not some search of the web:

"There is a certain visceral quality in the use of profanity that
simply cannot be expressed using the King's English." - Ed Padin,
expressive igoramus.



>
> I find this language offensive and I request, again, that it not
> be used on the list.
> Profanity is the last refuge of the expressive ignoramus.
> No offense, but, if the shoe fits...
>
> Richard
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> ...
> "as in 'f***ed' or 'f***ed up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal
> All
> F***ed Up), as in FUBAR (F***ed Up Beyond All Repair)"

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Ed, et al;

I qualified it with "if the shoe fits" in case you had some higher reason
for using such offensive words, rather than just having no other
vocabulary with which to express yourself. Only you know that, so I would
only consider you an ignoramus if you continued to use the offending
language. If you are insulted, then perhaps the shoe fits, although that
wasn't my original intention; even though I was insulted/offended at the
language you used.

As for being "holier-than-thou.offensively sanctimonious or
self-righteous:a
holier-than-thou attitude." I've been called that before, it doesn't
really bother me, since I know how UNrighteous I really am. But, If I was
"offensively sanctimonious" toward you, I apologize. BTW: what word was
that describing? Is the Collins dictionary still available retail?

As for the "visceral quality in the use of profanity"; I don't agree. But,
we can agree to disagree.

And, FYI: my quote was from my own mind as well, and not some search from
the web, as you imply.

The real issue is that I find profanity offensive and I request that it
not be used on the list.  Thank you.

Richard


Ed Padin wrote:

> "No offense, but, if the shoe fits..."?
>
> I see... so I should not take offense at being labeled an 'ignoramus'?
>
> Perhaps I should have considered the sensibilities of the list members
> before using profane language but at least it was not intended as a
> personal attack. I think that the spirit of a message carries more
> weight than the semantics. The spirit of my message was a feeble
> attempt at some lighthearted humor and was mostly harmless.
>
> The spirit of your message was to insult. My gut reaction would be to
> respond in kind, using a good bit of profanity, but this time I don't
> think I'll bite.
>
> Later.
>
> BTW: from the collins dictionary:
> "4. holier-than-thou.offensively sanctimonious or self-righteous:a
> holier-than-thou attitude."
>
> I submit that this reference to a very valuable LX tool in expressing
> one's thoughts will, in some small measure, keep this message 'on
> topic'.
>
> ABTW: This is a quote from me, not some search of the web:
>
> "There is a certain visceral quality in the use of profanity that
> simply cannot be expressed using the King's English." - Ed Padin,
> expressive igoramus.
>
> >
> > I find this language offensive and I request, again, that it not
> > be used on the list.
> > Profanity is the last refuge of the expressive ignoramus.
> > No offense, but, if the shoe fits...
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Ed Padin wrote:
> > ...
> > "as in 'f***ed' or 'f***ed up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal
> > All
> > F***ed Up), as in FUBAR (F***ed Up Beyond All Repair)"

--
Richard Smith
--
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:48:15 -0400, Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> I've asked this question before. I even contacted the author (Gilles
> Kohl?) and asked him to either add the feature or release the source
> code to others. He did neither (It's his privledge , I guess.)

İsnip¨

You guess? It IS his code, after all. He has the absolute right
to do anything he wants with his code, including doing nothing.

Vic Roberts

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Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:05:14 -0500
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I probably have a copy of the free student version of PSPICE
for DOS. Let me know, via private e-mail to me at
vicroberts@earthlink.net if you still need a copy.

Victor Roberts


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:56 -0600, John Musielewicz <jmusiele@MNINTER.NET> wrote:

>
> Does anyone know if such a program has been written for the 200LX or
> know of a dos based one that would run on the LX? Anyone have a dos
> version of Pspice 3 for sale?

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Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:05:21 -0500
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:14:40 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> It is a wonderful thing - the distance between us - you being on the
> east coast (or close enough to be considered so and I on the west coast
> or similarly considered so). (G)  But beware if I ever do make it to
> Camp Worthington they will think it was that BEAR! (G)

I never met a bear from Brooklyn before. I thought they were
extinct. <G>

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A friend of mine was lamenting that his Word5.0 was not Y2K compatible. I
think I remember that MS had posted Word 5.1 as a free download in late 1999
for those that had 5.0. I just searched the MS site and could not find it.
Anyone able to help me locate it?

Thanks
Dennis

Merry Christmas! etc.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Dec 2001 00:21:57 -0600
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Subject:      Using Goin' Postal to read news

Hi

I am trying to read news in Goin' Postal. I understood it could
be done using lxnntp to download it. I got as far as opening the
shell window using the alt+s key combo and downloading the news
but I am kind of flummoxed by not being able to open it in GP.
Does anyone know how? Also does anyone have the freeware version
of GP they can send me? Thanks

John
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.04beta) EVALUATION

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Date:         Tue, 25 Dec 2001 12:14:26 +0100
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Hallo all,

just now I had some free hours and took a look at my old menu-program
Q4X. After a couple of hours I have got an advanced version, which
recognizes HP LX and displays the battery voltage. You can download
it from
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/bread/689/download.htm
and
http://www.migaro.de/q4x.htm

Written in Turbo Pascal 6.0.

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net
Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57

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Date:         Tue, 25 Dec 2001 15:20:33 -0800
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Sorry for occupying bandwidth, but I receive the HP
list in Digest mode and have not received a single
e-mail in 4-5 days. Is the server down? Or is it just
a problem with my e-mail?

Please answer directly as I am not receiving e-mails
from the list.

Thanks,

Inigo

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> Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:00:19
>
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Hi Tony

> Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:17:54 +1300 (NZDT)
>
> 08h32m56s ago ...
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:44:58 +0200, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > Hello Group
> >
> > I use the Dos version of the Collins and have recently
> > transfered it to my 200LX. It works ok except for three
> > problems. 1) I can't use it with graphical applications
> > only text,
>
> Which text applications do you use it with?

In DOS, Dexter, Pegasus mail, PNR mail editor, Word are some I use it
with. It works pretty well although I have to hit enter to clear the
screen after I leave the dictionary.


>
> > 2) I can't load the pop-up tsr before Software Carousel, I
> > have to load it in individual sc windows otherwise I lock
> > up my computer when I try to activate the pop-up with the
> > hot-key sequence and
>
> I seem to remember the note that comes with it recommending
> that the TSR-mode is not used.

Hmm..I don't remember a note like that.

>
> > 3) I can't use it with some programs that swap out to a text
> > editor like post/LX  does. It doesn't work with Post/LX
> > but it works with PNR. Go figure.
>
> How does it work with PNR itself? What do you do with it? Do
> you mean it doesn't work with PalEdit editor - that runs in
> graphics mode.

It doesn't work with Paledit but I don't use paledit as a text editor
I use dexter. Dexter runs in text mode. When I write a messsage in
PNR it swaps out to the text editor and then I can use the
dictionary. Post/LX does the same but the dictionary won't run- it
just gives me an error. I have tried swapping with maxdos but I still
get an error.

>
> > So has anyone figured out these problems and know of a
> > work around? I don't have much hope of (1) since it even
> > states in the documentation that it only supports WP 6.0
> > graphical interface.  Does WP 6.0 run on the 200LX? But
> > what about (2) & (3)?
>
> AFAIK WP5.1 runs, but I haven't heard of a leter WP version
> running. Probably no other way around (2). I don't quite follow
> you on (3), but possibly maxdos might help, if the problem
> seems memory related.

I think a later version of WP would run if CGA drivers could be
found. I don't think the errors are memory related. I get the same
error if I run Maxdos and the text editor alone. It seems almost any
200LX program that swaps out prevents the dictionary from popping up.
It is odd because it works just fine on a desktop with the Dr-DOS
task swapper.

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Hi

I need to edit some data in an .exe file and was wondering if it is
possible
without having to edit the source and recompile. I have tried it in
ascii editors and each one screwed it up. Is there an editor which
will work for this? TIA

JohnJohn Musielewicz

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Hi all:
    Does anyone know of an OCR program that will work on the palmtop? Thanks!

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I must object. It isn't only "ignoramuses" (ignoramii?) who swear. I
sometimes swear, and I have a perfectly good working knowledge of English.
In fact, I am a published author and essayist, and an experienced editor,
with perfect scores on three major English exams (the Verbal portion of
the SAT, the AP English Language exam, and the AP English Lit exam).

                                                        --Jessica

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Richard and Patti Smith wrote:

> I find this language offensive and I request, again, that it not
> be used on the list.
> Profanity is the last refuge of the expressive ignoramus.
> No offense, but, if the shoe fits...
>
> Richard
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> ...
> "as in 'f***ed' or 'f***ed up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal
> All
> F***ed Up), as in FUBAR (F***ed Up Beyond All Repair)"
>
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I have to agree with Richard, where I work I have to put up with=

that type of language, I expected better form the folks on this.
Perhaps I've been spoiled by the normally fine manners here.

BTW, The earlier, original of SNAFU was
Situation
Normal
All
Fouled
Up

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:47:16 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith=
 wrote:
>I find this language offensive and I request, again, that it=
 not
>be used on the list.

--
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>
> Ed, et al;
>
> I qualified it with "if the shoe fits" in case you had some
> higher reason
> for using such offensive words, rather than just having no other
> vocabulary with which to express yourself. Only you know
> that, so I would
> only consider you an ignoramus if you continued to use the offending
> language. If you are insulted, then perhaps the shoe fits,
> although that
> wasn't my original intention; even though I was
> insulted/offended at the
> language you used.

Awright, awright. I'm sorry I cussed :-/
I'll do my best to avoid such language in the future if it bothers you
(and other list members) that much. A simple 'please watch your
language, thank you.' without the veiled insults would have been nicer
but I was probably being overly sensative.

>
> As for being "holier-than-thou.offensively sanctimonious or
> self-righteous:a
> holier-than-thou attitude." I've been called that before, it doesn't
> really bother me, since I know how UNrighteous I really am.
> But, If I was
> "offensively sanctimonious" toward you, I apologize. BTW:
> what word was
> that describing? Is the Collins dictionary still available retail?

It's under the entry for 'holy'. Thaddeus sells them. It's probably
the best dictionary program available for the LX. I also use it under
windows.

BTW: The 'F' word, 'S' word, 'B' word, 'C' word and 'A' word are all
in there, too, so watch out! (just kidding..) ;¬>

>
> As for the "visceral quality in the use of profanity"; I
> don't agree. But,
> we can agree to disagree.

Sounds good to me and I apologize for the rancor I sent your way in my
previous email.  I was in a crabby mood for having to work on
Christmas eve.

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Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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It's a lot slower with serial. I would estimate the speed at about 25%
of ethernet or less.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On
> Behalf Of
> Martin Bergvill
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:20 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: MochaPPP
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:15:51 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Hi friends,
>
> Hello there
>
> > However, it would be nicer to connect the palmtop via
> serial cable to
> > the Linux box, because this makes PCMCIA card swapping
> superfluous. At
> > least everytime I only want to download email, and this
> is by far the
> > most often usage here. ;-)
>
> How is the speed running WWW/LX on ethernet compared to serial?
>
> I use a EN2216-1 now and the speed is okey. But I am running out of
> discspace so I may need the memorycard soon. Serial would
> be the way to
> go then, but I do not want have the speed be reduced to much.
>
> So how is it?
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
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Try posting this on an 'outlook tips and tricks' maling list or news
group and see what people say. I'd be curious to know
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Someone sent me this.  If it really works I think everybody
> should know
> (but only if it works).  All the email client gurus out
> there care to
> comment on this?
>
> Neo Sia Meng

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>
> Hi Ed
>
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:42:52 -0500, Ed Padin
> <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > yep, iptables is easier but I was using a 2.2 kernel.. no
> iptables for
> > that.
>
> Ah, yes. I remember.
> 2.2 requires iptables. But does ipchains also work for 2.4 kernels?

Actually, 2.2 will only do ipchains. However, the 2.4 kernel will do
iptables, ipchains or the older ipfwadm but not at the same time. You
have to load a kernel module for which one you wish to use. On redhat,
the kernel will load automatically. This means that if your start
using ipchains you won't be able to use iptables until you unload the
ipchains module. IPtables is orders of magnitude higher in
capabilities than ipchains. I've been reading up on it and it is
really complicated and, of course, very powerful.

>
> > > > persist option seemed to screw ppp connections
> subsequent to the
> > > > first. Not really needed if init respawns it for you.
> > >
> > > So I'll test without it. What do you exactly mean by "screw"?

>
> oops. ;-)
> Well, I didn't want to know it _that_ exactly. ;-)
> I actually meant what it means exactly to your PPP connection.
> Or has "persist" sometimes sexual intercourse with your PPP
> connection?

Don't get me started! I already got whacked on the nose with a
rolled-up newspaper for that one....

It seemed that subsequent connections would not negotiate properly
because tghe ppp daemon was not being reset after every connection.
Without the persist parameter, the ppp daemon will terminate when the
connection terminates and the init daemon will respawn him. This is
similar to the way the getty daemon works.


> Well, I have removed persist, too, and it doesn't seem to make any
> difference for me.


>
> BTW: If someone has something to add to the descriptions on my
> internet_sharing page, please let me know! I think it is still
> incomplete. But I don't know much about this whole topic.
> I'm glad it
> works for me...

Feel free to use any of my emails without asking.

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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:48:15 -0400, Ed Padin
> <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> >
> > I've asked this question before. I even contacted the
> author (Gilles
> > Kohl?) and asked him to either add the feature or release
> the source
> > code to others. He did neither (It's his privledge , I guess.)
>
> İsnip¨
>
> You guess? It IS his code, after all. He has the absolute right
> to do anything he wants with his code, including doing nothing.
>

Yeah, whatever. The original message was dated Sept 10. Where you
specifically searching for messages authored by me so you express
disapproval of my statements? Okay, here goes...  "I AM ABSOLUTELY
CERTAIN THAT HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE DAMN WELL PLEASES WITH HIS
CODE!"... is that better?

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Is the listserv Down or have I been Bounced?

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Le Mon, 24 Dec 2001 23:56:02 EST
Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL=2ECOM> a =E9crit:

> A friend of mine was lamenting that his Word5=2E0 was not Y2K compatible=
=2E I
> think I remember that MS had posted Word 5=2E1 as a free download in late =
1999
> for those that had 5=2E0=2E I just searched the MS site and could not find=
 it=2E
> Anyone able to help me locate it?

You have to search for Word 5=2E5, not 5=2E1=2E

I remember to have downloaded it (probably in june 2000) in their Y2K
section=2E

I have just searched this section without finding it=2E=20

Perhaps you will be more lucky=2E=2E=2E


Jacques=2E

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I've used Norton Utilities (DiskDoctor IIRC) to edit some text in an exe
file, but you will be limited in what you can change without breaking the
program.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Musielewicz İmailto:jmusiele@MNINTER.NET¨
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:35 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: OT: editing an .EXE file


Hi

I need to edit some data in an .exe file and was wondering if it is
possible
without having to edit the source and recompile. I have tried it in
ascii editors and each one screwed it up. Is there an editor which
will work for this? TIA

JohnJohn Musielewicz

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Date:         Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:44:56 -0600
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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> as I've said, I'm hacking the LXSTAT for *all* LX's palmtops
> and more features. One bad thing is that the size of the
binary
> is growing. Please allow me to say: I hate that!
> The new version is currently 25649 bytes (pklited). The source
> is a single C-file of size 192159 bytes (incl. comments).
>
> My question is:
>
>    How do I make (using TCC v2.0) the binary even smaller?
>    (Or do you suggest another compiler? An ANSI one please.)

The single most important consideration in optimizing is to
write the program small.  Use small algorithms.  :)

That sounds funny when I say it but it's the major factor in
producing a smaller program.  Think of ways to do things with
less code and data.  And dont decide that you've done that by
looking at the c.  Do look at the asm.  Even if you can't read
it you can see what produces more code and what produces less
code.  You don't have to guess.  Try two ways to do something
and compare the size of their asm output.

Use the same techniqe to determine when to optimize with asm.
In this case you can gain by reading the asm output but it's
doing the same thing you're doing in asm and it should be simple
enough to see which is larger.

I don't remember which registers you have to preserve.  I think
I remember that TC2 was pretty lenient about that.  I looked it
up just now but all I can find is the statement that if you use
SI or DI then TCC won't use them for register variables.  I
think I'd write something with inline asm that changes DS and
see if it preserves it for you.  You might do the same with SS
and CS and BP.  Don't run it.  Just look. :)

* I do use "goto" that is usually considered a "bad" style
  whenever it saves me some bytes. :)

I'm not sure that will save you bytes.  I'd try a loop both ways
and see what the output looks like.

* I use inline ASM whenever I know that it reduces the
  size. But it's not quite clear to me, when exactly will
  the binary smaller. Would you also experiment and share
  your results? I'm not sure which registers I'll have to
  push. And, I have no idea how Turbo C is doing it when
  C-statements and inline-ASM are strongly interleaved
  inside a function.  But please don't tell me to read the
  assembly output. I can't read that language of angels!
  Or you'll have to teach me that. :)

You don't have to read the asm to do some optimizing, but that
is the best way to find out what you want to know.  There's a
lot to learn from it.

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I'm not personally offended by four letter words and their
longer variations.  But I think there are places, and this is
one of them, where they are inappropriate.

We all work pretty hard at keeping the tone of this friendly
and, at the same time, somewhat serious and professional.  I
think our choice of words is part of that.  If raw language
became common here it would change the nature of this group.

I'm jumping in here to give my opinion not because I want to get
into the argument but because it is my opinion.  I don't think
any harm was done.  But if that kind of language became common
here then harm would be done.

By the way, when I'm talking to my friends I tend not to use
words like that.  But notice that I said "tend" not to.  There
are times when they're the best choice.  They do convey
something that can't be conveyed any other way.  But only if
they're unexpected. :)

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Date:         Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:35:08 -0500
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> I'm not personally offended by four letter words and their
> longer variations.  But I think there are places, and this is
> one of them, where they are inappropriate.

I am the original offender and concede the point. I apologize to
anyone who was offended and admit I was wrong. Let's forget the whole
thing and not start a flame war, please.

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I've done the same thing in order to edit fixed length strings. I
think that the DOS debug commands gives you a lot more capabilities.
You really have to know your machine code in order to do it
successfully. IIRC, there are programs out there than can reverse
engineer an executable into highly cryptic assembly code.


here's  a good place to start:
http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/binaryed/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On
> Behalf Of
> Feldman, Robert
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:28 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: editing an .EXE file
>
>
> I've used Norton Utilities (DiskDoctor IIRC) to edit some
> text in an exe
> file, but you will be limited in what you can change
> without breaking the
> program.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz İmailto:jmusiele@MNINTER.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:35 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: OT: editing an .EXE file
>
>
> Hi
>
> I need to edit some data in an .exe file and was wondering if it is
> possible
> without having to edit the source and recompile. I have tried it in
> ascii editors and each one screwed it up. Is there an editor which
> will work for this? TIA
>
> JohnJohn Musielewicz
>
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>
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Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET
In-Reply-To:  <001601c18e2c$a6e957e0$8dfe36d8@oemcomputer> from Barry at "Dec
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Barry wrote:

> The single most important consideration in optimizing is to
> write the program small.  Use small algorithms.  :)

Such as recursion instead of iteration. :)
I think small algorithm does not play a central role
here in this program, because there is no algorithm. :)
It's practically merely a command-line-user-interface to
many BIOS fucntions on the hplx-palmtops.

> (...)
> code.  You don't have to guess.  Try two ways to do something
> and compare the size of their asm output.
This is a very useful hint!

> (...)
> and CS and BP.  Don't run it.  Just look. :)
Will do.

> * I do use "goto" that is usually considered a "bad" style
>   whenever it saves me some bytes. :)
> I'm not sure that will save you bytes.  I'd try a loop both ways
> and see what the output looks like.
Yes, I'll have to be skeptic about my intuition. I believed
that would save some bytes merely from the C-codes.

> You don't have to read the asm to do some optimizing, but that
> is the best way to find out what you want to know.  There's a
> lot to learn from it.

Will try whenever I can.

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Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET
In-Reply-To:  <000701c18af7$a63daea0$7bfe36d8@oemcomputer> from Barry at "Dec
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Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET
In-Reply-To:  <000701c18af7$a63daea0$7bfe36d8@oemcomputer> from Barry at "Dec
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(Sorry sending this the 3rd time. Something went wrong....)

Barry wrote:
> ~Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"

Barry, I've just edited your header to

        charset=ISO-8859-1

in order to be able to reply using "elm". I suppose Microsoft
has registered the charset "Windows-1252" but my version of
"elm" seems to be out of date. Things I'm using seem to be
all phased out, but I'm not updating for now ... :(

> I have a bunch of utilities written for the 95lx that come with
> (...)
> they work.  It probably won't be a lot harder to trace the
> functionality of the c programs.
>
> If you want to send me a private email I'll send it to you in a
> reply.
Yes, yes, please! Those of size 100-200 bytes are the easier
ones to trace. Much more easier than C-programs (for me).

> There's also a lot of information about 95lx in Ralf Brown's
> interrupt list.
Hmm. I've already searched thorugh his lists. Not much that I
could find. In order to "stat" the current speaker-volume on
95LX, I had to search exhaustively, because no program I was
able to find prints that value. I got your programs, it would
have been much easier to find out which byte in BIOS area or
port it is reflected.

> There's a bug in the Jaguar's emulation of the 8254 chip in mode
> 3.  Mode 0 works correctly and can be used in the same way with
> a slightly changed technique.  I first ran into this problem way
> back when in the days when the 95lx was king, while trying to
> write a background music driver for a silly little animation I
> did.
Oh, oh. Your reply is very informative. Don't tell me it has a
bug in the "read-back" function of 8254, such that I have not
even fetched the correct operating mode! So, let me know a
little more about your project that time.  Which channel were
you using for background process?  I use the channel 0 on 200LX
in its original speed (18.2 Hz).  This freq. is bad (too low). I
did not bother to reprogram the timer0 with another higher
frequency, because any program making use of Timer0 and loaded
afterwards will encounter unexpectedly a different freq. then
ca. 18.2 Hz.  And there is no officially reliable way to ask for
the divisor a 8253/4-compatible timer is programmed to run.
(Although I've made LXSTAT to show the freq. of all timers using
some tricks.) So, reprogrammign Timer0 to another freq should
be treated as a "bad approach".

The HP95LX seems to be reprogramming the Timer1 to the highest
divisor 0 (or 65536) every system-tick, because although I was
able to reprogram it to another freq. but next time I "stat"
the freq. it is again back to 18.2 Hz. This machine must be
using the timers in a quite peculiar way ...

> I mentioned it on Compuserve's HPHAND where there were such
> luminaries as Mark Scardinia but no work-around was offered.
> Then a new guy joind the forum.  I wish I could remember his
> (...)

This brought up another question:

        How could these works be properly archived
        and made available?

This is why I appreciate the contribution of google.com (and
previously dejanews?) so much.  I did find *few* very useful
posts about 95LX on comp.sys.palmtop.  But HPLX-L is not
collected there. It would be very nice if this list is also
archived there! and the Compuserve: HPHAND! That is, it would be
nice if

        lists.google.com        (*)

would exists! (*) NB! The above does not exists.

> The timer isr I wrote for the 95 works fine on the 100/200 lx
> with no interference with the clock.  I can't remember now but I
> think it ran the clock about  100 times faster and then called
> the int 8 handler every 1/100th time.  That worked cleanly on
> the 95 and the same code worked fine on the 200lx.  Although I
> made that determination many years ago and haven't looked since,
> so I could remember that wrong.  Offhand I can't think of any
> reason it would be a problem on the 100/200lx.  By the way that
> does use mode 0.

Oh. It's bad news for me. If it is true that you've programmed
the Timer0 on HP95LX to a freq. other than 18.2 Hz, then I'm
missing something! (help!)  Because I cannot program the Timer0
on HP95LX to another freq!!! It's no problem at all on the
100/200LX, but on the 95LX for me. The 8254-emulation on 200LX
behaves as expected. I think I'll be trying another program that
manipulates Timer0 on the HP95LX in order to see if that was
a plunder of mine.

> > * What's an algorithm for determining if there is a
> >   battery on the PCMCIA card?
> There was some method of getting the condition (probably the
> voltage) of the card battery.  If LXSTAT is the program that
> shows a bargraph of the 3 batteries it uses that technique.

No, it not LXSTAT. I don't know any program that detects if there
is a battery on the card.  I use only the bit returned by 100/200
BIOS-service to say "card battery ok or low". I suppose
Stefan too in his LxPro (which is always loaded on my palmtop).
Even the program BATTCK.COM for 95LX displays 5 Volts in case
of a flash-card on which there is no battery at all.

Rudi

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Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:07:06 -0500 (EST)

Hello All:

  Happy Holidays to you all!

  Please be respectful of others in your use of language on HPLX-L. I
  don't think "foul language" is a problem on the LIST.

  If you are offended by someone's choice of words, a private message
  asking them to refrain is probably better than a public action.

  I'm sure that no one meant to offend anyone, but it seems "push" is
  coming to "shove". If anyone cares to discuss this further, please
  write in private, not on the LIST, THANKS.

  Cheers...AJKind

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Patrick West wrote:

> BTW, The earlier, original of SNAFU was
> Situation
> Normal
> All
> Fouled
> Up

I haven't been able to confirm this.  Do you have any references?

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> > BTW, The earlier, original of SNAFU was
> > Situation
> > Normal
> > All
> > Fouled
> > Up
>
> I haven't been able to confirm this.  Do you have any references?

Once again, the Collins dictionary says:

snafu (sn=E6`fu:)Slang, chiefly military.  n. 1. confusion or chaos
regarded as the normal state.=7F adj. 2. (postpositive) confused or
muddled up, as usual.=7F vb. -fues, -fuing, -fued.3. (tr.)U.S. and
Canadian.to throw into chaos.İC20: from s (ituation) n (ormal) : a
(ll) f (**ked) u (p)¨

The above was modified to conform with a PG-13 rating. Consult your
own copy of Collins (in a dark room, in private, but not too much as
you can go blind.) for the unedited version.

Damn, I love that program.... is 'Damn' okay? :-/

I work with some former military dudes and they say that this is the
original derivation of the slang term but the 'fouled' word is used
when speaking in a mixed crowd (Like in front of officers and their
wives). The air force uses the nickname 'BUFF' for the B-52 bomber. In
a mixed crowd, it stands for 'Big Ugly Fat Fellow'. :¬O .... ;¬>

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Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:47:33 +1300 (NZDT)

Stefan uploaded PDU.ZIP V2.6 to his web page on 26-DEC and
asked me to announce it here:

Version 2.6  -Improvements by Tony Hutchins:
(26-DEC-01)  -Allows configurable font for PDU.SCR
             -IrDA now kept alive for very large outbox file
              (N.B. this requires ROBOT version >=1.8)
             -Changed screen display to include a status line
             -Cleanup of temporary files made optional.
             -PDU.BAT now handles ROBOT.CFG usage automatically

Download from:

http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

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John Musielewicz wrote:
> I need to edit some data in an .exe file and was wondering if it is
> possible
> without having to edit the source and recompile. I have tried it in
> ascii editors and each one screwed it up. Is there an editor which
> will work for this? TIA

1st rename the file to something other than *.EXE.  You can use
DEBUG to change the file but if you're trying to change data you
should try to keep the new data the same length (or shorter and
use spaces) so you don't change any important offsets.
When finished rename back to EXE.

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Joseph,

> Is the listserv Down or have I been Bounced?

I, too, was wondering about that. For a couple of days, I didn't
receive any messages from the HPLX-L. I am receiving them now so
I can only imagine it might have been down for a few days.

William E. Blankenship

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Subject:      Goin' Postal and Earthlink

I am trying to set up GP with Earthlink and for some reason I
can't send any mail. It seems to go through the process without
any errors but nobody recieves any messgaes. Does GP work with
Earthlink?

John
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.04beta) EVALUATION

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Ed Padin ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> In a mixed crowd, it stands for 'Big Ugly Fat Fellow'. :¬O .... ;¬>

He, he, he - are you talking about me or about Santa now? <VBG>


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Le Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:41:58 -0600
John Musielewicz <jmusiele@MNINTER=2ENET> a =E9crit:

<snip>

> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1=2E04beta) EVALUATION

John,=20

The last version is 5=2E01=2E=2E=2E

I think you should upgrade=2E=2E=2E ;-)


Jacques=2E

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:25:19 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> Many, many, many thanks. Good reading! :)

Yes it made me smile. He wrote about some of the thoughts I have for
this little machine. I think it was Stefan that wrote something about
Hplx vs religion a long time ago. It is strange that you can be that
attached to a dead thing that I am (and probably a lot of us here :-)

Regards

--
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, WEB wrote:

> > Is the listserv Down or have I been Bounced?
>
> I, too, was wondering about that. For a couple of days, I didn't
> receive any messages from the HPLX-L. I am receiving them now so
> I can only imagine it might have been down for a few days.

Entirely down, it would seem. I e-mailed the listserv bot on the 24th
(night between 23rd and 24th, actually) and didn't recieve a reply until
today, along with lots of hplx-l messages...


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Here is the site to download from Microsoft the english version of Word 5.=
5


http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/9798/Wd55eng.aspx

Mike

> Le Mon, 24 Dec 2001 23:56:02 EST
> Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL.COM> a =E9crit:
>
> > A friend of mine was lamenting that his Word5.0 was not Y2K compatible=
. I
> > think I remember that MS had posted Word 5.1 as a free download in lat=
e 1999
> > for those that had 5.0. I just searched the MS site and could not find=
 it.
> > Anyone able to help me locate it?
>
> You have to search for Word 5.5, not 5.1.
>
> I remember to have downloaded it (probably in june 2000) in their Y2K
> section.
>
> I have just searched this section without finding it.
>
> Perhaps you will be more lucky...

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On 12/22/2001 at 9:25 PM Neo Sia Meng wrote:

>Dear All,
>
>Someone sent me this.  If it really works I think everybody should know
>(but only if it works).  All the email client gurus out there care to
>comment on this?

İSNIP¨

>>This trick won't keep the virus from getting into yourcomputer, but it
>>will stop it from using your address book to spread further, and
>>it will alert you to the fact that the worm has gotten into your system.

İSNIP¨

It works.

This was addressed some time ago on Fred Langa's Langalist.  His opinion
was that yes it works, yes it does what the message says it does, but that
it doesn't buy you much.  His suggestion -- and I agree with it -- is to
put this in place to protect others if you wish, in case your virus
protection isn't up to date and something slips through, but by all means
use an antivirus program and a firewall as your primary line of defense.

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Comments: To: jbelin@ALTERN.ORG

I would but the link on Super is dead, a web search turns up
nothing and the only copy I have is what I downloaded years ago.

John

On 12-26 05:17pm,

> Le Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:41:58 -0600
> John Musielewicz <jmusiele@MNINTER.NET> a icrit:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.04beta) EVALUATION
>
> John,
>
> The last version is 5.01...
>
> I think you should upgrade... ;-)
>
>
> Jacques.
>
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Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:33:39 +1300 (NZDT)

2 days 10h18m13s ago ...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:15:26 -0500, Ed Padin wrote:

> I got a mail from yahoo recently about how they will be changing their
> smtp servers so that they require authentication. I looked at postlx
> and could not find a place where you can set this up.

Ed, I hope I don't make a snafu here but I think POST/LX will
handle the authenticated yahoo automatically. You don't have to
click on anything<G>. I think POST/LX has been
"authentication-ready" for a year now - it always *tries*
authentication with an SMTP server first and if it is not
supported, it doesn't bother sending the password. If it is
suported it will try to send an encypted password, and if that
is not supported it sends the password in plain text. I think I
have only seen one SMTP server that did fully encrypted
authentication.

There is a "tip and trick" about this dated 1-1-2001 entitled
"Problems with old SMTP servers". At www.dasoft.com.

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I have seen that this file has been emailed around to list members. Is there
a place to download it? All I get are broken links. I have never used it and
am curious as to how well it would fit my requirements.

KeithG

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Thanks to Werner, Jacues and Ulrich for reminding me that it was Word 5.5 not
5.1 (I am a Wordperfect 5.1 guy) Thanks to Bob and Al for offering to burn
the CD/floppies for me. I really love this list!

Searching The Microsoft Site, I was able to find the 5.5 upgrade for
downloading. I shall download it and get it to my friend. Again, thanks to
all my good friends for their help.

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All,

 I've got mochaPPP working at home with a PC using a modem, but I can't =
get it to work at my company's PC on the lan.  I am able to get a PPP =
connection, but when I try to use HV to go to an address, I get no =
response.  Same thing with post/lx.  In both cases there seems to be no =
transmissions from the lx, per the mocha screen.
 Any suggestions?  The script that I am using is s=3Dr\  @=3D3

TIA
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> I have seen that this file has been emailed around to list members. Is there
> a place to download it? All I get are broken links. I have never used it and
> am curious as to how well it would fit my requirements.
>
> KeithG
>

I am too. If someone would email me the file I'll put it up on my
website so anybody can download it.

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> Once again, the Collins dictionary says:
>
> snafu (sn=E6`fu:)Slang, chiefly military.  n. 1. confusion or chaos
....
> Damn, I love that program.... is 'Damn' okay? :-/

I agree, both on the usefulness of the program, and your use of the
word.

Otherwise, your email address alone would make you a pariah <g>.

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Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:09:52 +1300 (NZDT)

2 days 17h19m56s ago ...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:49:56 +0100, Yves Leurquin wrote:

>   You need to use Netscape version 2.0 or greater, or
>   Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0, or an HTTP/1.1 compliant
>   browser for this to work.

AFAIK HV does HTTP/1.0. I think HTTP/1.1 has digest
authentication.

> If there is a demand for this maybe can we convince Dasoft
> and Andreas to implement HTTP 1.1 into WWW/LX.

Ahha, so you know HV does HTTP/1.0 then :)

> If www/lx can not do it yet, has anyone had success with
> another mail client for the HP200LX via a Proxy server
> (e.g.PNR) ?

Mail client? But above we were talking about HV - an HTTP
client. Do you get the same error message from your proxy when
using POST/LX? What happens when you try to use POST/LX ?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 03:31:47 +0000
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This was on cis:

Sb: HP Palmtop Paper
Fm: 70274.1565 70274,1565
To: All > İall¨

I have several years worth of the HP Palmtop Paper publication that are
free for the asking. All I ask is that you pay the UPS shipping. It
seems a shame to toss these out when there are still lots of users
looking for info and tips.

To write to that cis address it would be:

70274.1565@compuserve.com


And I will apologize if that person is also here!

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From:         Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
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Comments: To: "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Speaking of Compuserve...

I subscribed so I could get access to HPHAND. However, all they seem to
have nowadays is their stupid Windows software... is there a way I can
still use a terminal emulator, telnet client, simple DOS program or the
like to get on and access HPHAND?

                                                        --Jessica

                                        ..who forgot her Compuserve login :/


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On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, F. Kaufman wrote:

> This was on cis:
>
> Sb: HP Palmtop Paper
> Fm: 70274.1565 70274,1565
> To: All > İall¨
>
> I have several years worth of the HP Palmtop Paper publication that are
> free for the asking. All I ask is that you pay the UPS shipping. It
> seems a shame to toss these out when there are still lots of users
> looking for info and tips.
>
> To write to that cis address it would be:
>
> 70274.1565@compuserve.com
>
>
> And I will apologize if that person is also here!
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 00:33:27 -0500
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Have MochaPPP  setup and it works great picking up mail. However, if I am
sending mail it tries to connect to the SMTP server and fails with an
error "BAD ADDRESS 550 DENIED" Weird, because it works fine w/dialup...
Any ideas??
Suresh

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:27:06 +1300
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Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:19:28 +1300 (NZDT)

02h30m57s ago ...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:48:31 -0600, Jessica Blank wrote:

> Speaking of Compuserve...
>
> I subscribed so I could get access to HPHAND. However,
> all they seem to have nowadays is their stupid Windows
> software... is there a way I can still use a terminal
> emulator

no :(

>, telnet client,

no :(

> simple DOS program or the like

The old DOSCIM V223 from 1994/95 still works fine.

> to get on and access HPHAND?

There is very little traffic there now - it is located at GO
PALMTOPS

>                                          --Jessica
>                        ..who forgot her Compuserve login :/

oops even DOSCIM can't re-create your password :(

There is another nice DOS offline CIS reader called accis4,
sold by Tom Rundel.

OH! Maybe you can access "HPHAND" using a browser? I am not
sure. Hopefully someone else gives you better advice :)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:18:32 +0100
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Hello all,

John, I mailed you the file on Dec 26th 4.34pm.(GMT)

Keith, right now.

Etienne

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Musielewicz" <jmusielewicz@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 03:31 AM
Subject: Re: Goin postal


| > I have seen that this file has been emailed around to list
members. Is there
| > a place to download it? All I get are broken links. I have
never used it and
| > am curious as to how well it would fit my requirements.
| >
| > KeithG
| >
|
| I am too. If someone would email me the file I'll put it up on
my
| website so anybody can download it.
|
| John
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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:34:38 +0100
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You can now download GP from:

 http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/trial1/gp5r1.exe

Cheers

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 03:22:18 -0600
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This list is great!!! I now have a copy of Goin' Postal version
5. It sends mail faultlessly. Thank you to everyone who responded
to my plea for a copy. I will post a link as soon as I have it up
on my website. Thanks again.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:22:11 +0200
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Hi Keith and others

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:11:32 -0500, Keith Grider <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I have seen that this file has been emailed around to list members. Is there
> a place to download it? All I get are broken links. I have never used it and
> am curious as to how well it would fit my requirements.

I have the file and I could make it available for download without a
problem on my side. The only problem is as always the law.

Does anyone have the emal address of the author so I could ask him if I
may offer GP for download?

GP users, please look for an email address in the docs.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:06:54 +0200
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Hi Suresh

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 00:33:27 -0500, Suresh Nirody <esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Have MochaPPP  setup and it works great picking up mail. However, if I am
> sending mail it tries to connect to the SMTP server and fails with an
> error "BAD ADDRESS 550 DENIED" Weird, because it works fine w/dialup...
> Any ideas??

Probably your SMTP server only allows relaying messages if you dial
into their own network? And the PC which runs MochaPPP uses another
network to access the Internet?

What SMTP server are you using? And what software?

GTX
daniel


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ii've modified a version of (excellent) lxtools to work
with HP95LX as i didnt find any on the web
you can download this version at URL :
http://xmarc.free.fr/devel/lxtools-95LX-1.1d.tar.gz

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:19:23 +0100
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Le Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:22:11 +0200
Daniel Hertrich <daniel=2Ehertrich@GMX=2EDE> a =E9crit:

> Does anyone have the emal address of the author so I could ask him if I
> may offer GP for download?

The last known address of Steve Lawson was stevel@gfys=2Enet =2E=20

I think it is yet valid, as it is his own domain and he has just renewed
it=2E

Unfortunately, his web site (where GP was available) shows only the
apache configuration page now=2E=2E=2E  :-(

Jacques=2E

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:19:24 +0100
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From:         Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:49:57 -0500
Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL=2ECOM> a =E9crit:

> It is strange that you can be that
> attached to a dead thing=20

Dead ?

OK=2E Then all we have to do is to reconstruct it a few (change crystal,
replace the 80186 by a 386+, etc=2E=2E=2E), and we could say :

"It's alive, It's alive !"

<g>

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:11:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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I'm using www/lx ver 2. What outstanding features does goin postal
have over post/lx?


> > I have seen that this file has been emailed around to
> list members. Is there
> > a place to download it? All I get are broken links. I
> have never used it and
> > am curious as to how well it would fit my requirements.

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Subject:      Re: 200LX Article in Jan 2002 Pen Computing Magazine
Comments: To: Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>,
          Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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> Dead ?

12/27/01  9:14 am Central
But its not dead.  I am using this 200lx much more than my ipaq, which
in my opinion is only useful with a wireless lan connection.

 I have been using my 200lx so much lately.
A project I have been working on, I redid with MMLX. Suddenly I felt I
understood the problem much better and was really innovating and
thinking outside the box.  I have been using TTLX to keep tack of time
also.
I create my own databases etc.

Plus, I hook up my lan card and send and receive email.  Quicklx is
helping typing speed etc.

I was showing this machine to a senior in high school, and they said
they would rather have a machine like the 200lx because it seemed so
functional.  They didnt like poking or writing on the palm or ipaq.

I just really like this machine that has been around since 1994.

Tim

> Le Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:49:57 -0500
> Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> a =E9crit:
>
> > It is strange that you can be that
> > attached to a dead thing
>
> Dead ?
>
> OK. Then all we have to do is to reconstruct it a few (change crystal,
> replace the 80186 by a 386+, etc...), and we could say :
>
> "It's alive, It's alive !"
>
> <g>
>
> Jacques.
>
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Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Jessica Blank writed:
> I must object. It isn't only "ignoramuses"
> (ignoramii?) who swear. I sometimes swear,
> and I have a perfectly good working knowledge
> of English.  In fact, I am a published author and
> essayist, and an experienced editor, with perfect
> scores on three major English exams (the Verbal
> portion of the SAT, the AP English Language
> exam, and the AP English Lit exam).

As a fellow ignoramus I support your position.  I swear.  :)

While I've never published anything and never passed either a
test or a gas station,  I have been known to discuss a dam
without reference to water and to leave the "o" off "hello".
It's my right as a practicing ignoramus to do so and I thank you
for taking a leadership role in this postion.

As Groucho would say:  "Next time let's try a different
position."

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:02:20 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
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Holy Sh... :¬O  oops.

Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the vendor a
good bit and can recommend them.

http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CF256

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:04:36 +0100
Reply-To:     hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Tony Hutchins wrote:
>
> OH! Maybe you can access "HPHAND" using a browser? I am not
> sure. Hopefully someone else gives you better advice :)

You can - but I don't have the URL at hand. You should be able to find
your way starting at http://www.compuserve.com


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:24:58 +0100
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Padin" <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 04:11 PM
Subject: Re: Goin postal


| I'm using www/lx ver 2. What outstanding features does goin
postal
| have over post/lx?


They are comparable, although I believe post/lx has a few more
titbits: pdu, sms writing and such.
GP has some trouble with GSM's, and no IrDa
Set up is very easy though, as is maintenance. And since it
became freeware...

Etienne

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Date:         Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:55:19 -0800
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From:         Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
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> Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the vendor a
> good bit and can recommend them.

Not bad.

A tad better than the HP retailer that I just came from (they sell
mostly surveying equipment and do the HP stuff on the side),
where they still have the HP branded 20mb flash card (but with
Stacker 3.0) listed for $975.

Talk about losing touch with reality.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:13:20 EST
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I recently found the box for the HP 5MB pcmcia card I bought a few years ago.  The Educalc pricetag was still on it... $359 USD!

It was worth the price because of the vastly improved productivity on my 1MB machine.

Kat

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:35:52 -0800
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You must be joking!  This price is a total rip-off, when 128 MB cards are
selling for less than $40, and the 220 MB Flashdisk pcmcia card is selling
on ebay for $50.

Ed Padin has made it onto my "auto-delete" list.

-mac


On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> Subject: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!

> Holy Sh... :¬O  oops.

> Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the vendor a
> good bit and can recommend them.
>
> http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CF256

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:33:59 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      WTT: for 16MB CF card
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have a 48MB Smart Modular full type-1 PCMCIA memory card I would be
willing to trade for a 16mb CF  card. Any takers? if not, I'd like to
buy a 16MB card from someone that has one lying around.

BTW: They can be found for retail $20-ish incl. shipping these days
but I'd rather trade away stuff gathering dust.

thanks

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:54:25 -0600
Reply-To:     hplx@TWU.NET
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From:         Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
Comments: To: Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <3C29BAA7.10441.25CBCEC0@localhost>
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Lots of vendors of 'official' branded products from Big Iron companies
(HP, Sun, SGI, Compaq...) do this sort of nonsense. You'd think they were
the military or something ;)

                                                        --Jessica


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Longden Loo wrote:

> > Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the vendor a
> > good bit and can recommend them.
>
> Not bad.
>
> A tad better than the HP retailer that I just came from (they sell
> mostly surveying equipment and do the HP stuff on the side),
> where they still have the HP branded 20mb flash card (but with
> Stacker 3.0) listed for $975.
>
> Talk about losing touch with reality.
>
> - Longden
>
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Hi there Ed--

        I am interested in trading. I will obtain a 16MB CF card for you
from eBay, and trade it. :)

                                                        -Jessica


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On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> I have a 48MB Smart Modular full type-1 PCMCIA memory card I would be
> willing to trade for a 16mb CF  card. Any takers? if not, I'd like to
> buy a 16MB card from someone that has one lying around.
>
> BTW: They can be found for retail $20-ish incl. shipping these days
> but I'd rather trade away stuff gathering dust.
>
> thanks
>
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.NEB.4.33.0112271131120.10404-100000@S.Culver.Net>

I would like to know where you are getting 128m cards NEW for "less than
$40". Also the 220m cards on ebay are USED and PCMCIA, hardly
comparable. $104 is a good price for a NEW 128M CF card.

Pete Borders

On 27 Dec 2001, at 11:35, Mike Cheponis wrote:

> You must be joking!  This price is a total rip-off, when 128 MB cards are
> selling for less than $40, and the 220 MB Flashdisk pcmcia card is selling
> on ebay for $50.
>
> Ed Padin has made it onto my "auto-delete" list.
>
> -mac
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > Subject: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
>
> > Holy Sh... :¬O  oops.
>
> > Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the vendor a
> > good bit and can recommend them.
> >
> > http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CF256
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:13:11 -0500
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Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
In-Reply-To:  <NFBBIIMKOLAOGFKOJCHDAEAOCHAA.ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>; from Ed
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for those a bit more daring, pricewatch.com has 256mb cf starting $83

--francois

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:02:20PM -0500, Ed Padin wrote:
> Holy Sh... :¬O  oops.
>
> Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the vendor a
> good bit and can recommend them.
>
> http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CF256
>
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From:         Francois Gurin <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
Comments: To: Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.NEB.4.33.0112271131120.10404-100000@S.Culver.Net>; from
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It's not a rip-off at all.  $104US is a decent going price for new compact
flash 256MB cards.  The best deal on pricewatch for a similar item is about
$20 less, and those are from companies which do not otherwise have a
recommendation from a trusted party (i, for one, trust recommendations on
this list from familiar 'faces').

i wouldn't compare ebay to retail, nor would i compare type II to compact
flash. i see 220mb type II cards going new for over $200.

--francois

> You must be joking!  This price is a total rip-off, when 128 MB cards are
> selling for less than $40, and the 220 MB Flashdisk pcmcia card is selling
> on ebay for $50.

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Le Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:13:20 EST
Kat Doyle <TCU549@AOL.COM> a =E9crit:

> The Educalc pricetag was still on it... $359 USD!

=2E..and, fall 1992, when they began to sold the first Sundisk cards (yes
Sundisk <g>), the 10Mb was something around $1000...

One of my friends bought the 10Mb as soon Educalc make them available.=20
It is very possible that he was the first in France to have one...

Jacques.

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Ed Padin wrote:
> I'm using www/lx ver 2. What outstanding features does goin postal
> have over post/lx?

The only one I know of is GP is free.
If you can afford WWW/LX it is the best way to go.

Cheers... Russ

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:16:40 -0500, Ed Padin wrote:

> It's a lot slower with serial. I would estimate the speed at about 25%
> of ethernet or less.

Ah okey so I should try to run WWW/LX on the desktop then. I have a
message here somewhere on a tool so WWW/LX "sees" the connection which
is already there.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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Larry:

<<  I am able to get a PPP connection, but when I try to use HV to go to an address, I get no response.  Same thing with =
post/lx. >>

So you only think you have PPP connection. In truth, it never connects right.

<<  In both cases there seems to be no transmissions from the lx, per the mocha screen. Any suggestions?  The script that=
 I am using is s=3Dr\  @=3D3 >>

The script seems wrong.

There are TWO lines:

s=3D\r

and the second is


@=3D3


Each line begins on column 1.

Also note the \r vs r\ in the first line of the script.

I do not know if this is the source of the problem but could be.

   Avi

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Tony and Ed - and others:

Post/LX 3.1 released in January 2001 supported SMTP authentication AUTOMATICALLY, nothing to do. Check this on http://www=
dasoft.com - enter the site, click on WWW/LX icon or link, click on "What's New in the Product" then on the Features Lis=
t details, then scroll to January 2001 releast of Post/LX 3.1. Enjoy...



Original Message:
-----------------
From: Tony Hutchins th@PARADISE.NET.NZ
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:47:39 +1300
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: wwwlx and changes in yahoo mail


Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:33:39 +1300 (NZDT)

2 days 10h18m13s ago ...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:15:26 -0500, Ed Padin wrote:

> I got a mail from yahoo recently about how they will be changing their
> smtp servers so that they require authentication. I looked at postlx
> and could not find a place where you can set this up.

Ed, I hope I don't make a snafu here but I think POST/LX will
handle the authenticated yahoo automatically. You don't have to
click on anything<G>. I think POST/LX has been
"authentication-ready" for a year now - it always *tries*
authentication with an SMTP server first and if it is not
supported, it doesn't bother sending the password. If it is
suported it will try to send an encypted password, and if that
is not supported it sends the password in plain text. I think I
have only seen one SMTP server that did fully encrypted
authentication.

There is a "tip and trick" about this dated 1-1-2001 entitled
"Problems with old SMTP servers". At www.dasoft.com.

ciao, Tony

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I bet you signed up to their Compuserve 2000 service. It is a dog, clumsy and AOL-like. Call and cancel or change to "Com=
puserve Classic". It is the service you can use with their old CIS 2.2.3 software (DOS-Based) which accesses forii and wi=
ll run on the Palmtop. It runs probably 50% FASTER on the Palmtop than the CS2000 runs on any desktop platform.

Good luck.

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Jessica Blank hplx@TWU.NET
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:48:31 -0600
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Speaking of Compuserve...


Speaking of Compuserve...

I subscribed so I could get access to HPHAND. However, all they seem to
have nowadays is their stupid Windows software... is there a way I can
still use a terminal emulator, telnet client, simple DOS program or the
like to get on and access HPHAND?

                                                        --Jessica

                                        ..who forgot her Compuserve login :/


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On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, F. Kaufman wrote:

> This was on cis:
>
> Sb: HP Palmtop Paper
> Fm: 70274.1565 70274,1565
> To: All > İall¨
>
> I have several years worth of the HP Palmtop Paper publication that are
> free for the asking. All I ask is that you pay the UPS shipping. It
> seems a shame to toss these out when there are still lots of users
> looking for info and tips.
>
> To write to that cis address it would be:
>
> 70274.1565@compuserve.com
>
>
> And I will apologize if that person is also here!
>
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
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> You must be joking!  This price is a total rip-off, when
> 128 MB cards are
> selling for less than $40, and the 220 MB Flashdisk pcmcia
> card is selling
> on ebay for $50.

Oops, I thought it was a good price....  pricewatch shows some generic
brand 256MB cards for the low $80's. It's hard to keep up. Ebay is not
a vendor, BTW. I always feel much better with a credit card
(non-paypal) purchase.

>
> Ed Padin has made it onto my "auto-delete" list.

Wow... this list used to be a pretty friendly and tolerant place. Go
look at my history of messages and you'll see that I very often post
pointers that list members may find useful. So I made a mistake...
It's enough to almost drive a person to using profanity. Well, sheesh!
From now on, if I find something good I'll keep it to myself.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:32:54 -0800
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From:         Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>
Subject:      Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
Comments: To: Francois Gurin <matrix@shot.org>
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Well, if you paid $20 more for an item than you needed to, wouldn't you
consider that a ripoff?  I sure would!

-Mike

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Francois Gurin wrote:


> It's not a rip-off at all.  $104US is a decent going price for new compact
> flash 256MB cards.  The best deal on pricewatch for a similar item is about
> $20 less, and those are from companies which do not otherwise have a
> recommendation from a trusted party (i, for one, trust recommendations on
> this list from familiar 'faces').

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
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The lowest priced pricewatch vendor adds $12.95 for shipping.  Now we are =
at about $96, which is about the same price as many current eBay transactio=
ns with only $3.50 shipping. =20
    However, the low pricewatch vendor says this about THEIR product:  =
(not a ringing endorsement, as I read it). =20

"Product Description:
"We cannot verify the compatibility since earch arrival has different =
specification.=20
"DO NOT USE THIS FOR MISSION CRITICAL PURPOSE.
"Good for low speed device. Not for speed higher than 4X device. (You may =
experience the data loss or incomplete file.)=20
"Economy. Good for disposal type operation such as presentation give =
away.=20

    You are welcome to your definition of ripoff.  Nobody on the list was =
trying to sell this to anyone else.  Noone was seeking financial gain.  =
This thread is bare.
>>> Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> 12/27/01 04:32PM >>>
Well, if you paid $20 more for an item than you needed to, wouldn't you
consider that a ripoff?  I sure would!

-Mike

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Francois Gurin wrote:


> It's not a rip-off at all.  $104US is a decent going price for new =
compact
> flash 256MB cards.  The best deal on pricewatch for a similar item is =
about
> $20 less, and those are from companies which do not otherwise have a
> recommendation from a trusted party (i, for one, trust recommendations =
on
> this list from familiar 'faces').

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On 12-27 09:17am CST,

>> Dead ?
>
> 12/27/01  9:14 am Central
> But its not dead.  I am using this 200lx much more than my ipaq, which
> in my opinion is only useful with a wireless lan connection.

I agree

>
>  I have been using my 200lx so much lately.
> A project I have been working on, I redid with MMLX. Suddenly I felt I
> understood the problem much better and was really innovating and
> thinking outside the box.  I have been using TTLX to keep tack of time
> also.
> I create my own databases etc.

I too have been using the LX more and more lately. I almost gave
it up for a laptop when I worked on a project where I had to use
software that required Win95 minimum. But now that the project is
over and I don't need windows the laptop is gathering dust and
the 200LX is back to being my main machine. I have been using
PalDraw a lot, along
with the HPCalc, and, of course, the database and email. If the
200LX had a secure web browser I wouldn't need a desktop at all.

>
> Plus, I hook up my lan card and send and receive email.  Quicklx is
> helping typing speed etc.
>
> I was showing this machine to a senior in high school, and they said
> they would rather have a machine like the 200lx because it seemed so
> functional.  They didnt like poking or writing on the palm or ipaq.

Heh..I only wish that when I was a senior in high school I had
had an option like the LX to choose from.

>
> I just really like this machine that has been around since 1994.
>
> Tim
>
>> Le Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:49:57 -0500
>> Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> a icrit:
>>
>> > It is strange that you can be that
>> > attached to a dead thing
>>
>> Dead ?
>>
>> OK. Then all we have to do is to reconstruct it a few (change crystal,
>> replace the 80186 by a 386+, etc...), and we could say :
>>
>> "It's alive, It's alive !"
>>
>> <g>

Give it time.

>>
>> Jacques.
>>
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Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
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Awright that's it.

I think I'll make a big production about how I'm leaving the list and
have everybody beg me to come back... oh, wait... it's been done..
twice!.... by the same person! Oh, well, nevermind.

I think I'll just quit until next year...

"I will no longer post to this list until 2002!"

so, there!

;¬>

BTW: I reserve the right to reverse my self-imposed exile at my whim.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On
> Behalf Of
> Mike Cheponis
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: 256 MB Compact flash card for $104 !!!!
>
>
> Well, if you paid $20 more for an item than you needed to,
> wouldn't you
> consider that a ripoff?  I sure would!
>
> -Mike
>
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Francois Gurin wrote:
>
>
> > It's not a rip-off at all.  $104US is a decent going
> price for new compact
> > flash 256MB cards.  The best deal on pricewatch for a
> similar item is about
> > $20 less, and those are from companies which do not
> otherwise have a
> > recommendation from a trusted party (i, for one, trust
> recommendations on
> > this list from familiar 'faces').
>
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I do not know if I agree or not with this statement. I have tried to use it as a demo to get the feel for it and do not feel that it is as functional to me as PNR. I would like it to use a standard tcp stack or at least deal with bootp or dhcp.

Regards,

Keith

Russel Brooks writes:
> Ed Padin wrote:
> > I'm using www/lx ver 2. What outstanding features does goin postal
> > have over post/lx?
>
> The only one I know of is GP is free.
> If you can afford WWW/LX it is the best way to go.
>
> Cheers... Russ
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> I must object. It isn't only "ignoramuses" (ignoramii?) who swear. I
> sometimes swear, and I have a perfectly good working knowledge of English.
> In fact, I am a published author and essayist, and an experienced editor,
> with perfect scores on three major English exams (the Verbal portion of
> the SAT, the AP English Language exam, and the AP English Lit exam).

I don't believe education matters in this case.  Since we would like to
have the widest possible membership on this list, we should observe the
common decency to try to avoid offending any of our readers.

On CIS we use to use the "Mickey Mouse" rule.  If Mickey would say it
(including aw shucks!) then it would be okay.

And I'm not above cursing (and such language has become all to casual,
losing its impact) but try to avoid it on lists such as this.

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We were having a discussion elsewhere about the appointment book and
that there is some subtle or not so subtle difference in the format and
I wondered if Curtis might know, i.e.:

<<Problem is that ApptBook is VERY WEAK in importing, i.e. it does not
support any format but its own format. ADBIO was an attempt to write an
import/export utility, but it mostly failed. It worked for the 100LX,
but for unknown reasons it works only occasionally with the 200LX.>>

I wonder if Curtis Cameron found what the "difference" was on the 200?

Does Curtis visit here?

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Happy Holidays to you all!

Does anyone know about Palmtop FX?( I am not sure about this name,
but maybe it's a HP LX*** with Korean Hangul keyboard and with
Korean dos?)
Please give me some information about what that is and where I can get.

Akio HIKITA

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Peter W. Borders wrote:
> $104 is a good price for a NEW 128M CF card.

No it isn't.  Look back in the list archives.  On 2001-10-31
I bought a 128M Sandisk CF New from Costco for $59.99USD.

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fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET wrote:
> I wonder if Curtis Cameron found what the "difference" was on the 200?
>
> Does Curtis visit here?

I visit here and read the threads that are of interest to me. Since I skip
a lot, I really appreciate that when someone starts a new thread, they
don't just reply to an old one, because I'll probably never see it!

But I'm not aware of any differences in the 100LX and 200LX formats. The
Outlook converter that I did seems to work for both file types.

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Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:34:33 +1300 (NZDT)

11h29m57s ago ...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:04:36 +0100, HP Staber wrote:

> > OH! Maybe you can access "HPHAND" using a browser? I am
> > not sure. Hopefully someone else gives you better advice :)
>
> You can - but I don't have the URL at hand. You should be
> able to find your way starting at http://www.compuserve.com

HP, I found it - "HPHAND" on the web:

http://go.compuserve.com/Palmtop

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Avi,
>
> So you only think you have PPP connection. In truth, it never connects =
right.

  Well, mochaPPP shows that the link is active and that some bytes have =
been both transmitted and received.  Also, on the 200, wwwlx seems to =
connect and invoke HV.  So I think the PPP connection is made.

>
> The script seems wrong.
>
> There are TWO lines:
> s=3D\r
> and the second is
> @=3D3
> Each line begins on column 1.
> Also note the \r vs r\ in the first line of the script.
>
  Actually, I had the script written as you show.  My post was what was =
incorrect.

 So any other ideas on what I could try?  Has anyone successfully  =
connected using mochaPPP through the office PC on a lan?

Larry

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, F. Kaufman wrote:

> I don't believe education matters in this case.  Since we would like
> to have the widest possible membership on this list, we should observe
> the common decency to try to avoid offending any of our readers. On
> CIS we use to use the "Mickey Mouse" rule.  If Mickey would say it
> (including aw shucks!) then it would be okay. And I'm not above
> cursing (and such language has become all to casual, losing its
> impact) but try to avoid it on lists such as this.

I agree with most of this, but education DOES matter in this case, because
of the assertation that "profanity is used only by people too stupid to
know better" that was made.

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Hi

The link to download Goin' Postal is

http://www.mninter.net/~jmusiele/index_002.htm

If your interested you may want to check out the site. Its a
boring site but there's some 200LX stuff you may find
interesting. Remember most of the site is still under
construction.

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On 12-27 10:56pm CST,

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, F. Kaufman wrote:
>
>> I don't believe education matters in this case.  Since we would like
>> to have the widest possible membership on this list, we should observe
>> the common decency to try to avoid offending any of our readers. On
>> CIS we use to use the "Mickey Mouse" rule.  If Mickey would say it
>> (including aw shucks!) then it would be okay. And I'm not above
>> cursing (and such language has become all to casual, losing its
>> impact) but try to avoid it on lists such as this.
>
> I agree with most of this, but education DOES matter in this case, because
> of the assertation that "profanity is used only by people too stupid to
> know better" that was made.

And that has what to do with education?<g>

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John Musielewicz wrote:

>But now that the project is
>over and I don't need windows the laptop is gathering dust and
>the 200LX is back to being my main machine. I have been using
>PalDraw a lot

John
Would PalDraw be a sketching program?
I'd like to know more.

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Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question?

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Kat Doyle wrote:
> I recently found the box for the HP 5MB pcmcia
> card I bought a few years ago.  The Educalc
> pricetag was still on it... $359 USD!

My first card was a 512k sram card for about $600.  My next card
a year later was a 2 meg sram card for about $600.  My first
flash was a 10 meg Epson (made by Sundisk, now Sandisk) for
about $600.

I remember adding 8k to a Radio Shack Color Computer 1 for right
at $100.  Things change.

That 8k upgrade took 8 chips back then, by the way.

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Peter W. Borders wrote:
> I would like to know where you are getting
> 128m cards NEW for "less than $40". Also
> the 220m cards on ebay are USED and
> PCMCIA, hardly comparable. $104 is a
> good price for a NEW 128M CF card.

Amazon has Sandisk 128 meg compact flash for $60.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000488VI/qid=1009521204
/sr=1-46/ref=sr_1_66_46/107-2794205-9044558

They also have the 256 meg card for $129.

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That was my typo. The original post was a 256mb cf card for $104 which is a
good price. My question to the replier was where did he get 128mb cards for
"less than $40.00". Like you the cheapest I have seen are around $60 which
is 1.5X the "less than $40.00" quoted.

Pete Borders

On 28 Dec 2001, at 2:15, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Peter W. Borders wrote:
> > $104 is a good price for a NEW 128M CF card.
>
> No it isn't.  Look back in the list archives.  On 2001-10-31
> I bought a 128M Sandisk CF New from Costco for $59.99USD.
>
> Cheers... Russ
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On 28 Dec 2001, at 1:10, Andrew King wrote:

> John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> >But now that the project is
> >over and I don't need windows the laptop is gathering dust and
> >the 200LX is back to being my main machine. I have been using
> >PalDraw a lot
>
> John
> Would PalDraw be a sketching program?
> I'd like to know more.
>

Hello Andrew

Yes it is a limited drawing program. It is great for doing schematics
an such on the palmtop. It can convert Autocad drawings to
paldraw and paldraw to autocad. You can find out more about it at

http://www.geocities.com/aroch

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Interestingly enough Richard, you have also been "offensively sanctimonious" towards me (albeit privately) for having said
I was SOL. It would be one thing if this sort of language was being used all the time, but once in a while is nothing to be
worried about. What worries me is that there are people on this list who feel that they have something to say about how we
express ourselves. I would like to point out that a choice of words is exactly that: a choice of words. I don't believe any
of us *needs* to use them, but sometimes it does fit the context and that's why they are used. No need to wonder about our
level of intelligence or ignorance, unless it is to truly eduate and enlighten.

For the record, I feel each of us should be able to express him/herself as he/she wishes, provided it does not involve
personal attacks.

'nuf said.

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard and Patti Smith" <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Offensive language on the list


> Ed, et al;
>
> I qualified it with "if the shoe fits" in case you had some higher reason
> for using such offensive words, rather than just having no other
> vocabulary with which to express yourself. Only you know that, so I would
> only consider you an ignoramus if you continued to use the offending
> language. If you are insulted, then perhaps the shoe fits, although that
> wasn't my original intention; even though I was insulted/offended at the
> language you used.
>
> As for being "holier-than-thou.offensively sanctimonious or
> self-righteous:a
> holier-than-thou attitude." I've been called that before, it doesn't
> really bother me, since I know how UNrighteous I really am. But, If I was
> "offensively sanctimonious" toward you, I apologize. BTW: what word was
> that describing? Is the Collins dictionary still available retail?
>
> As for the "visceral quality in the use of profanity"; I don't agree. But,
> we can agree to disagree.
>
> And, FYI: my quote was from my own mind as well, and not some search from
> the web, as you imply.
>
> The real issue is that I find profanity offensive and I request that it
> not be used on the list.  Thank you.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > "No offense, but, if the shoe fits..."?
> >
> > I see... so I should not take offense at being labeled an 'ignoramus'?
> >
> > Perhaps I should have considered the sensibilities of the list members
> > before using profane language but at least it was not intended as a
> > personal attack. I think that the spirit of a message carries more
> > weight than the semantics. The spirit of my message was a feeble
> > attempt at some lighthearted humor and was mostly harmless.
> >
> > The spirit of your message was to insult. My gut reaction would be to
> > respond in kind, using a good bit of profanity, but this time I don't
> > think I'll bite.
> >
> > Later.
> >
> > BTW: from the collins dictionary:
> > "4. holier-than-thou.offensively sanctimonious or self-righteous:a
> > holier-than-thou attitude."
> >
> > I submit that this reference to a very valuable LX tool in expressing
> > one's thoughts will, in some small measure, keep this message 'on
> > topic'.
> >
> > ABTW: This is a quote from me, not some search of the web:
> >
> > "There is a certain visceral quality in the use of profanity that
> > simply cannot be expressed using the King's English." - Ed Padin,
> > expressive igoramus.
> >
> > >
> > > I find this language offensive and I request, again, that it not
> > > be used on the list.
> > > Profanity is the last refuge of the expressive ignoramus.
> > > No offense, but, if the shoe fits...
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > Ed Padin wrote:
> > > ...
> > > "as in 'f***ed' or 'f***ed up', as in SNAFU (Situation Normal
> > > All
> > > F***ed Up), as in FUBAR (F***ed Up Beyond All Repair)"
>
> --
> Richard Smith
> --
> "Now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of their country"
>
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Hi Nike

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:35:52 -0800, Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:

> You must be joking!  This price is a total rip-off, when 128 MB cards are
> selling for less than $40, and the 220 MB Flashdisk pcmcia card is selling
> on ebay for $50.
>
> Ed Padin has made it onto my "auto-delete" list.

Before you judge too fast, have a look yourself. this is no joke. The
HP cards really are sold for these obsolete prices.

Probably the vendors have bought way too much of them and didn't resell
them quick enough, so prices of cheap-made flash and CF cards dropped so fast
that the vendors of the HP cards couldn't catch up with it.

So they hope some dumb people still buy these cards only because "HP"
is written on them and HP guarantees compatibility with their products....

GTX
daniel

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Le Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:22:21 +0200
Daniel Hertrich <daniel=2Ehertrich@GMX=2EDE> a =E9crit:

> So they hope some dumb people still buy these cards only because "HP"
> is written on them and HP guarantees compatibility with their products=2E=
=2E=2E=2E

Even if the "HP" cards are in fact Sundisk cards=2E=2E=2E ;-)


Jacques=2E

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Hi Larry

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 04:54:59 +0000, Larry Castor <castorlw@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>   Well, mochaPPP shows that the link is active and that some bytes have been both transmitted and received.  Also, on the 200, wwwlx seems to
> connect and invoke HV.  So I think the PPP connection is made.

The PPP connection TO THE PC is established. But there is probably no
like from the PC to the Internet. Or at least MochaPPP cannot use it
for some reason.

>  So any other ideas on what I could try?  Has anyone successfully  connected using mochaPPP through the office PC on a lan?

If it is a company's LAN, maybe there is some kind of Proxy of
Firewall? That could prevent MochaPPP from working. I don't know about
any options in MochaPPP which can be set to use a Proxy or to work
around a firewall.
Please ask the MochaPPP users.

GTX
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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:31:57 +0200
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Hi Mike

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:22:21 +0200, I wrote:

> Before you judge too fast, have a look yourself. this is no joke. The
> HP cards really are sold for these obsolete prices.
>
>İ...¨

From the other postings regarding this subject I now understood that
you meant something different than I am refering to. Sorry.

I don't know about recent good flash card prices, I thought you meant
the prices HP is still selling their ridiculous small flash cards for.

GTX
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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:35:15 +0100
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> But I'm not aware of any differences in the 100LX and 200LX formats. The
> Outlook converter that I did seems to work for both file types.

Curtis,

I'm using PIM/PE since it integrates so well with the programs of
Andreas. It is basically pure ASCII.

Can you tell me more on how to possibly approach import/export with
Outlook ? The setup includes a desktop with O2000 and a Jornada 720
with PocketOutlook which need to be synched with my HP200LX PIM's.

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As someone who is offended by profanity, I would like to encourage everyone to express themselves without foul language.

I avoid places where I am likely to be offended.  It would sadden me to have to unsub after all this time.

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Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
your homepage on the fly.

The online standard installation required a 13Meg download which seemed
reasonable. In the US you may as well order a CD.

HP

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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:00:04 +0200
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Hi friends,

Kingston makes a 5GB hard drive in PC card type II size!
It costs 578 Euro.

Unfortunately it will not be useable in the 200LX, since it needs
350mA.

This info is from the German magazine "PC go!" issue 1/2002, page 19

GTX
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Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:52:08 -0500 (EST)

Hello & an early Happy New Year to you all!

A couple of us have had success w/ MochaPPP and the LX, has anyone
else tried using IRDA besides Daniel? I couldn't get it to work w/my
OB800 running W95B...tried speeds down to 9600.

Cheers...AJKind

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Hi all

I was wondering if anyone here had used Nod32? www.nod32.com. Its supposed
to be one of the better ones. I was originally hopeful as it has a DOS
version but apparently needs a 386.

Alternately has anyone got info on a viruschecker that is current and will
work on the LX?

Seasons Greetings

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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:33:43 +0200
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Hi friends,

I have updated my homepage. New:

* A download page, which includes the Freeware version of Goin' Postal
(with kind permission of the author Steven Lawson), the Tranfile Win200
bugfix ("hpcomm.dll") and some new tools which I have written. Simply
scroll through the list. Maybe you find something useful.

* a "private" page with a curriculum vitae of mine, but it is password
protected. So if you are really interested, ask me in private for a
password please. I would like to have control over who sees this page.

GTX
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Hello HP

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:44:55 +0100, HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
> Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
> compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
> your homepage on the fly.

Does it also support AUTH-SMTP, as Post/LX does? This is my main
problem with kmail currently, since I want to use the SMTP server of
GMX, which requires SMTP-AUTH (or other techniques as SMTP after POP,
but I try to avoid this).

Thanks

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Hi Al

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:56:31 -0500, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> wrote:

> A couple of us have had success w/ MochaPPP and the LX, has anyone
> else tried using IRDA besides Daniel? I couldn't get it to work w/my
> OB800 running W95B...tried speeds down to 9600.

Did you succeed setting up IrDA under Windows at all? Does it work with
a mobile phone, for example?

Once this is done, all which is necessary is to find out which COM pirt
is assigned the the IrDA device (via the IrCOMM protocol, don't know
how this has to be set up in Windows), and you can then make the
software (MochaPPP in this case) talk to that COM port.

That should do the trick.

Of course on the LX side you can ONLY use WWW/LX with IrDA setup.

GTX
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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 12:38:33 -0700
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Our language reveals who we are, what we think, and what we
believe. If we can do no better than to resort to profanity to
express ourselves, then we are only slightly better than
animals. The educated, cultured, and intelligent person can
express more thoughts, more precisely, with intelligently
selected vocabulary, than can those who use vulgarities.

Those who differ in opinion from me are welcome to continue
making themselves appear to have a limited vocabulary and
command of language, but I request that it not be done on the
list, since it is offensive to some, including myself. It is the
only sensitive and courteous thing to do - otherwise, I can only
conclude that you must be some kind of modern-day barbarian.

I apologize to those who may feel insulted by the above,
however, I do not apologize for my opinions and beliefs. And if
I appear to be a snob, do-gooder, or elitist, then, oh well...

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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 12:41:22 -0700
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Ed;

I must admit, that is funny. Thanks, though.

Richard

> Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>

> Holy Sh... :¬O  oops.

> Golly willikers!!! This is a good price. I've dealt with the
vendor a
> good bit and can recommend them.

> http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CF256

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HP Staber wrote:
>
> Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
> Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
> compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
> your homepage on the fly.
>
> The online standard installation required a 13Meg download which seemed
> reasonable. In the US you may as well order a CD.

Sorry. This ended up in the wrong mailing list ;-)

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HP Staber wrote:

> Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
> Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
> compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
> your homepage on the fly.


Actually, to pick nits, Mozilla 0.9.7 is better than Netscape 6.2, which is
based off of Mozilla 0.9.2.  Recent mozilla development has been centered
around mail/news a *LOT* more than they have in the past, and I have finally
switched myself over completely to Mozilla, and I use it exclusively for
mail and news too.

Cheers.  :)

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Richard and Patti Smith wrote:

> Those who differ in opinion from me are welcome to continue making
> themselves appear to have a limited vocabulary and command of
> language, but I request that it not be done on the list, since it is
> offensive to some, including myself.

So, since people have said that they find your posts offensive, will you
stop posting to the list?

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> "I will no longer post to this list until 2002!"

Oh No!  The Horror!  OK, so that IS an exageration of the extent of the =
tragedy
<g>.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:43:05 +0000
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> Speaking of Compuserve...
>

As Tony said, Accis which was specifically written for the HP200 but
works in a dos window using Palrun or other hp emulator.

Tapcis still works.

And the forum which was HPHAND is now Palmtop and traffic is pretty slow
these days but still a helpful person or two (including yours truly)

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Subject:      FLUFF: SNAFU (was Re: Offensive language on the list)
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Patrick West wrote:

> Oxford English Reference Library CD-ROM version of
> "The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English"
> States:
> snafu     adj. & n.  sl.
> --adj. in utter confusion or chaos.
> --n. this state.
> İacronym for ' situation normal: all fouled (or f--ked)  up'¨
> -----------------------------
> As to it being the original, on that I tend to believe my
> Grandfather and Father

The Oxford entry doesn't indicate which version is the original.  However,
everybody I've talked to who was around when the word first started being
used has agreed that "fouled" is just a euphemism for the true original
meaning of the F in SNAFU.

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:44:10 -0800, Ian Butler wrote:

>The Oxford entry doesn't indicate which version is the=
 original.
>However, everybody I've talked to who was around when the word=
 first
>started being used has agreed that "fouled" is just a euphemism=
 for
>the true original meaning of the F in SNAFU.

Hmm,

You know some old people :)
SNAFU has been in use since 1800s.

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Patrick West wrote:

> SNAFU has been in use since 1800s.

Really?  The Merriam-Webster dictionary says it originated around 1941.

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Hi. Will release 12 run on the palmtop? If not which release will?

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Has anyone gotten the HACK game to run off the A drive on a 100/200LX?

If so, could you post your hack.cnf file (it's a small text file) and what
directories you installed HACK into?

Thanks.

(HACK is a game listed in the super Archives).

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Mr. Cameron,

Is there a trick to avoid getting duplicates when using the outlook to LX
converter?

I have seen several posts and "workarounds" but they always involve extra
programs to remove the duplicates.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong, but other people seem to have this
problem as well, so any light you could shed would be most helpful.

Thanks !



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From: "Curtis Cameron" <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Hp100 v. 200 appt file format?


> fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET wrote:
> > I wonder if Curtis Cameron found what the "difference" was on the 200?
> >
> > Does Curtis visit here?
>
> I visit here and read the threads that are of interest to me. Since I skip
> a lot, I really appreciate that when someone starts a new thread, they
> don't just reply to an old one, because I'll probably never see it!
>
> But I'm not aware of any differences in the 100LX and 200LX formats. The
> Outlook converter that I did seems to work for both file types.
>
> --
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John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Hi. Will release 12 run on the palmtop? If not which release will?
>
> John
>
John
I saved this from the list.
Not sure if 12 will run but it seems 10 will

Subject: Re: CAD on palmtop?
   Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:05:31 -0600 (CST)
   From: David Birch <drbirch@execpc.com>
If you have Autocad R10 or earlier, I put a file on the S.U.P.E.R. site
with what's needed to run it on a 200LX with at least 4 meg of memory.
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>   Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:10:58 -0600
>   From: Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
>If anyone finds this, please CC me. I would love one.

Jessica
I'm not sure what you need but the connectivity pack includes a software
package that acts just like the palmtop (well almost, it doesn't allow
you to open multiple PIMs. Otherwise the look and feel are all there.
My understanding is that the code was developed as part of the software
developement effort for the palmtop and then polshed up a bit for
release with the connectivity pack.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:40:04 -0500
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Are these things any good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315747076

Anyone using them?

Comments?

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Date:         Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:39:26 +0200
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Nan-Shan Chen writes:
> I think small algorithm does not play a central role
> here in this program, because there is no algorithm. :)
> It's practically merely a command-line-user-interface to
> many BIOS fucntions on the hplx-palmtops.

Thinking about the type of program that lxstat is, I would imagine the most
efficient way to reduce the size is to make sure that you are NOT using
ANY of the int86x family of functions to call interrupts. Try as much as
possible to use pseudovariables for the registers (_AX, _BX etc). or do
the calls in asm functions. I reduced the PAL library a lot this way.

If you can try NOT to use printf  at all but do your own formatting.
(This can be painful), also avoid doing:
puts("abc\n");
puts("def\n");

Rather use: puts("abc\ndef\n");

The other thing you can do is to look (a really good look) at the MAP
file produced by  the linker. Are there functions that you dont need?

For example (IIRC) turbo c automatically links in a function called
getenv(). You can eliminate its code if you dont use any environment
variables, by adding a dummy function:

char* getenv() {}

If using duplicate strings doesnt work, find out why. You can normally
reduce size a lot by using it. Also if your source files are multi module
(more than one source file) check whether you can reduce size by making
text strings global to the program.

Finally I have found that a newer compiler sometimes compiles smaller.
I often devlop on the palmtop using TC++ 1.0 and then release the software
after building with BC3.1 on the desktop.

Without having the source code, I cant think of any other ideas.
--
** David Becher
** davidb@netmedia.net.il   davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 15:16:37 +0800
Reply-To:     Adrian Ho <aho-hplx@03S.NET>
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From:         Adrian Ho <aho-hplx@03S.NET>
Subject:      Re: C language: how small can binaries be?
In-Reply-To:  <200112261814.TAA19605@getultra61.uni-paderborn.de.>; from
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 07:14:34PM +0100, Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> It's practically merely a command-line-user-interface to
> many BIOS fucntions on the hplx-palmtops.

In that case, try doing away with string handling entirely.
Two ideas off the top of my head:

İ1¨ Command-line arguments could be single characters instead
    of long strings.

İ2¨ Instead of printing status/error messages, return specific
    error codes instead, and let batch files do the rest.

There are probably dozens of tricks along these lines, but
they and Barry's algorithm suggestion boil down to one thing:
Don't use or create any code you don't absolutely need.

As to how you determine what you "absolutely need", more time
spent in the design phase has been known to yield suprising
insights into this matter.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:16:48 +0800
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Hi everybody,

Just wondering has anybody tried this? I don't have a CE machine so I can't
confirm if it can really run DOS and HP 200LX programs like it claims it can.
Appreciate any input from fellow LX-ers!

Source: http://www.pocketdos.com/


Best regards.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:49:48 -0800
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 jimmytan@yeos.com.my wrote:

> Just wondering has anybody tried this? I don't have a CE machine so I
> can't confirm if it can really run DOS and HP 200LX programs like it
> claims it can. Appreciate any input from fellow LX-ers!

It runs pretty well on a Jornada 680, even better on a 720.  The downside
was being able to run only one DOS application at a time (Software
Carousel would lock up when starting, and I could not get DOSShell to swap
sessions ... and only one copy of PocketDOS can be opened by WinCE at a
time, much like the way only one DOS application can be opened from System
Manager on the 200LX), and the lack of dedicated function keys on the
keyboard was a big disadvantage too.  Other than that, I liked it enough
to buy it.

However, I only ran WordPerfect 5.1 and Quicken 8.0 and a couple of other
text-mode DOS applications on it; since graphics emulation is the slowest
part of both XT-CE and PocketDOS, I would imagine that games or other
graphics-mode applications would run significantly slower on PocketDOS,
and therefore the user would have a far less satisfying experience with
PocketDOS than I did.

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I run pocket dos on my 720 and it runs good, albeit a little slower than my
ds LX, It runs the dos programs I throw at it. I have not tried to run con
pack on it. I have heard on this list that someone has had success with some
of the PIM stuff though. Maybe a search thru the archives would be
enlightening?

Mike...

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Hi everybody,

Just wondering has anybody tried this? I don't have a CE machine so I can't
confirm if it can really run DOS and HP 200LX programs like it claims it
can.
Appreciate any input from fellow LX-ers!

Source: http://www.pocketdos.com/


Best regards.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:03:30 +0100
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John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Hi. Will release 12 run on the palmtop? If not which release will?

Don't think that rel. 12 will run. Rel 10 does but require some
tweaks. I think there is a zip file with this add-on's on SUPER.

You cannot work seriously with AutoCAD on the palmtop anyway. It's just
to show off with the palmtops capabilities.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
> > Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
> > compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
> > your homepage on the fly.
>
> Does it also support AUTH-SMTP, as Post/LX does? This is my main
> problem with kmail currently, since I want to use the SMTP server of
> GMX, which requires SMTP-AUTH (or other techniques as SMTP after POP,
> but I try to avoid this).

I don't know yet - did not play around too much. I was able to receive
mail from all my accounts but could not send anything so far. I need
more time.

The look&feel of Netscape is alright so far.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Walter Francis wrote:
>
> HP Staber wrote:
>
> > Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
> > Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
> > compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
> > your homepage on the fly.
>
> Actually, to pick nits, Mozilla 0.9.7 is better than Netscape 6.2, which is
> based off of Mozilla 0.9.2.  Recent mozilla development has been centered
> around mail/news a *LOT* more than they have in the past, and I have finally
> switched myself over completely to Mozilla, and I use it exclusively for
> mail and news too.

Thanks. I will go and have a look if I have it on one of my disks.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 07:05:19 -0600
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I haven't tried R12, but I've run R10.  I posted a ZIP file
to the SUPER site that includes the necessary files, plus
you need Acad R10, of course.

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Richard of Richard and Patti Smith wrote:

> Our language reveals who we are, what we think, and what we
> believe. If we can do no better than to resort to profanity to
> express ourselves, then we are only slightly better than
> animals. The educated, cultured, and intelligent person can
> express more thoughts, more precisely, with intelligently
> selected vocabulary, than can those who use vulgarities.
>
> Those who differ in opinion from me are welcome to continue
> making themselves appear to have a limited vocabulary and
> command of language, but I request that it not be done on the
> list, since it is offensive to some, including myself. It is
the
> only sensitive and courteous thing to do - otherwise, I can
only
> conclude that you must be some kind of modern-day barbarian.

Which caused Ian Butler to reply with:

> So, since people have said that they find your posts
offensive,
> will you stop posting to the list?

I was one of those who spoke out against using bad language on
the list but I think I would prefer four letter words to this
kind of name calling.

Richard and Ian, please think about what you're saying before
you post it.

I don't want bad language here either.  But I want an unfriendly
list even less.  I'd much rather put up with four letter words
than what we have here.

We're all supposed to be here to help one another and we can't
really do that if we're always arguing and bickering.  Let's
have a little peace and friendship and try to get along.  We're
adult's after all.

Barry  (modern day barbarian and part time ignoramus)

P.S.  I live in the country.  I don't have any animals but I see
them all the time and I've never yet known of one that used foul
language.  I suppose they must be better educated, more cultured
and more intelligent than we are.  Perhaps we should consider
being more like them.

I wonder if the cows point us out to their calves as examples of
how not to behave.

I wonder why the monkeys in the zoo always laugh when we walk
by?  They must really enjoy our antics.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:19:15 +0100
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Tony,

> Mail client? But above we were talking about HV - an HTTP
> client. Do you get the same error message from your proxy when
> using POST/LX? What happens when you try to use POST/LX ?

I almost never use the www/lx suite for browsing the net i.e. HV. My main
application is eMail. With Post/LX the system did not gave any answer =
after
a long time hence I resorted to HV so see what was happening. It is =
through
HV that I could get this message back from the cache access system saying
that it required HTTP 1.1.

Based on this, I consider that the problem is independant of the applicati=
on
layer (i.e. HV or Post/LX) but deeper at the network layer (i.e. WWW/LX)
which can not answer the ID/Password request of the proxy cache.

Any help will be appreciated in tracing and fixing this problem.

 \/
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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:19:03 -0600
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Tralornik wrote:

> Has anyone gotten the HACK game to run off the A drive on a 100/200LX?
>
>

I don't know about HACK, but I run Nethack version 3.0 on the
HP200 off the A drive, and it is my second favorite HP200
application. The newer versions of nethack run, but are way to
slow to play even on a double speed machine. I think that HACK
might be an older version of nethack. If you want, I could zip up
my working copy and send it to you, send me an e-mail. Bryan

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:52:24 -0800
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I guess we need a separate HPLX (and OB) users that use Linux mailing
list<g>. (If there is enough interest I could set one up - those interested
should email me privately so I can gauge interest). I will try to cover
a number of points in this one message so as not to saturate the list
with non hplx related emails.

Sylpheed is an email client that a number of people I have come to
respect like that is supposed to be fast and stable (although still at
version 0.6) and does support SMTP-AUTH. I recently downloaded a copy
but have not tried it yet.

HP, I also prefer Mozilla over Netscape but have been using Konqueror
in preference over either of them. For email I was mostly using kmail
for a while but concluded that the convenience of the hplx with post/lx
can not be beat and use it exclusively for daily email. Kmail does
still get used to send emails with large attachments from the desktop
and to receive emails with large (typically images) attachments - I use
the size cutoff in my post/lx setup to control this. Unless you have a
very recent disk set the version of Mozilla you have will be older than
the version Daniel mentioned - better to download if possible. (BTW did
you get your winmodem working as a linmodem?)

GaryS

> Daniel Hertrich wrote:

snipped because this is being read on palmtop

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Mostly a lurker here (I defer to far more expert fellow DOS users), I caugh=
t
up on the last few digests in checking for another problem (written
elsewhere) and, although late, I couldn't resist getting in my $0.02. On
12/28/01 Ian Butler <ianrb@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Patrick West wrote:
>=20
>> SNAFU has been in use since 1800s.
>=20
> Really?  The Merriam-Webster dictionary says it originated around 1941.

Correct. Let's fully absolve Ed Padin. This is copied verbatim from:

Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary CD-rom version

1sna=80fu \sna-"fu, "sna-'fu\ noun İsituation normal all f*cked up (fouled
up)¨ (ca. 1941)=20
: confusion, muddle

=A91996, 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc.  Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary
=A91995 Merriam-Webster Inc.

Ed was merely (quite literately and literally), in his erudition, quoting
directly MW (who maybe should be chastised for "corrupting" callow
collegiate youth? ;-). Note MW's preferred was the more base but expressive
form of variants on the "F" word. This would tend to support the thesis of
the original F meaning in SNAFU.  We need to know these edifying details--o=
n
the way to all important perfect test scores!  And, hopefully, a much bette=
r
2002...

Sidney Ho

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I have some old Ace PCMCIA ATA flash cards, 10 mb and 20 mb--very costly in
their day. My problem, and what keeps me still tied to these cards, is that
they run Stacker 2.0 software. It appears that the files on the Ace card
automatically reads/writes in compressed form.

If I put the Ace card into a (Mac) laptop, the PC card is not recognized but
all other PC formatted cards are. If I put it in a Toshiba laptop, the card
is recognized but the entire 10mb contents are combined into one big stacker
file.  I urgently need to get my database reorganized into a decompressed
version. Can anyone suggest a work around, especially for the initial file
recognition/separation/extraction problem? I lost a lot of stuff and cannot
currently email the file to myself either--it would probably arrive in a
Stacker DB format anyway. As I recall, Stacker (more dangerously) installed
and compressed at the driver level of the storage device rather at the file
level. That's going back quite a ways for a (largely) Mac user.

Does anyone have a copy of Stacker v.2.0 or higher that will run in Windows
that they can sell to me? Would such software recognize the individual files

Thanks for any help.

Sidney Ho

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Sidney,

METHOD ONE:
The best thing to do is simply use a Serial Cable (for LX) and download the
Transfile program and transfer the contents of your drive from the LX to
your PC.

It will go through the driver and therefore not be transferred in stacked
format.

Then, you will have all you LX files on the PC/Mac and you can move them
back to a new non-stacker card via the same method.

If you need the Mac serial cable, post a message on this board, I believe
someone had one for sale a couple of months ago.

METHOD TWO:
Another way to it is to move as much as you can to your C: drive (first
maximumize C: drive size through setup by using less RAM for memory.)
Then take out the stacked card and insert an unstacked card (Like a Sandisk,
that needs no driver) and move the files from the C: drive to the unstacked
A: drive.

Repeat until all files moved.  (This is definately the "last resort" option
as it will take considerable time).

METHOD THREE:
Use another LX with an unstacked card in it and transfer via the IR
port....this will take a long time if you have 20 MB card.

METHOD FOUR:
Do some research, you may find a later version of stacker can read the old
2.0 format.  You may even find that the drivers might be available on the
Net for download.

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Subject: Re: Ace Cards & Stacker Compression


> I have some old Ace PCMCIA ATA flash cards, 10 mb and 20 mb--very costly
in
> their day. My problem, and what keeps me still tied to these cards, is
that
> they run Stacker 2.0 software. It appears that the files on the Ace card
> automatically reads/writes in compressed form.
>
> If I put the Ace card into a (Mac) laptop, the PC card is not recognized
but
> all other PC formatted cards are. If I put it in a Toshiba laptop, the
card
> is recognized but the entire 10mb contents are combined into one big
stacker
> file.  I urgently need to get my database reorganized into a decompressed
> version. Can anyone suggest a work around, especially for the initial file
> recognition/separation/extraction problem? I lost a lot of stuff and
cannot
> currently email the file to myself either--it would probably arrive in a
> Stacker DB format anyway. As I recall, Stacker (more dangerously)
installed
> and compressed at the driver level of the storage device rather at the
file
> level. That's going back quite a ways for a (largely) Mac user.
>
> Does anyone have a copy of Stacker v.2.0 or higher that will run in
Windows
> that they can sell to me? Would such software recognize the individual
files
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Sidney Ho
>
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Well, after a year, I'm back fiddling with WWW/LX. I would
really like to connect the LX to my Motorola ST7868W.
Digital should be no problem, treat it like an external
19,200 modem.

I have two modems with cell capabilities, a 3Com 3CXM556 and
a Motorola 33.6 Montana. I load up CIC100 and plug in the
modem while the LX is on. Both shut down the LX which I
believe is an indication of too much current draw.

Does anyone have a suggestion for cell capable modems that
work with the LX and StarTacs? And, yes, I want to run
analog because I live in analog cell territory.

Bob
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On 12-29 03:28pm CST,

>
> I have two modems with cell capabilities, a 3Com 3CXM556 and
> a Motorola 33.6 Montana. I load up CIC100 and plug in the
> modem while the LX is on. Both shut down the LX which I
> believe is an indication of too much current draw.

<snip>

Most cards are not hotswappable in the LX. Even a modem that
doesn't use more than the 150 mA will shut down the LX if you
plug it in when the LX is on. The best thing to do is look at a
spec sheet and see what the current requiremnts are for the
modem.

John

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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:27:03 +1300
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:59:25 +1300 (NZDT)

07h40m10s ago ...
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:19:15 +0100, Yves Leurquin wrote:

> I resorted to HV so see what was happening. It is through
> HV that I could get this message back from the cache access
> system saying that it required HTTP 1.1.

Yves, thanks for the detail!

A www log would maybe show what is happening.

> Any help will be appreciated in tracing and fixing this
> problem.

The HTTP 1.1 authentication would have to be handled by HV when
it formulates the HTTP request. There are different forms of
HTTP authentication - from my reading they only have a loose
connection to the HTTP/1.0 and HTTP/1.1 standards. In any case
they require far too much resource for inclusion in HV - they
don't just send id/password in plain text - they require
encoding etc etc.

I doubt whether e-mail makes any use of the cache. Maybe it
hits a firewall? Maybe, for you, your IT admin people could
disable the cache and disable the firewall? :)

Maybe MochaPPP itself doesn't work so well on the LAN? I don't
know. Sorry I am no help. I see other folk here are trying to
use a LAN too - hopefully someone comes up with an answer.

- Tony

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Barry wrote:

> Which caused Ian Butler to reply with:
>
> > So, since people have said that they find your posts
> > offensive, will you stop posting to the list?
>
> I was one of those who spoke out against using bad language on the
> list but I think I would prefer four letter words to this kind of name
> calling. Richard and Ian, please think about what you're saying before
> you post it.

Sigh.  Apparently my ironic humor is not as obvious as I thought it was.
So, let me explain again.

When I said the above, I wasn't being serious.  In fact, for the most part
I agree with Richard.  My point was that it is ridiculous for anybody
(except the list owner) to demand that somebody stop doing something
because it offends somebody else.  If you don't like it, hit the delete
key and move on with your life.  If you REALLY don't like it, hit the
delete key, put that person in your killfile, and THEN move on with your
life.

Now, notice that I said it's ridiculous for somebody to DEMAND that the
list change to suit their whims.  ASKING is an entirely different matter.
Richard would have gotten much further and prevented this entire thread
had he merely said something like "Profanity makes me uncomfortable.
Could we please not use it on the list?" rather than wading in with both
barrels blazing about how people who use it are unintelligent, uncultured,
uneducated ignoramuses who are little better than animals.  Had he asked
politely, it's almost certain that he would have been listened to
immediately and this whole thread would never have come about.

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Are we reaching the point where this OT subject has been
discussed ENOUGH ??  I know I could filter out Fluff subjects
but I generally enjoy them.

This unpleasant subject is going on and on and ...

I am NOT trying to single out any individuals; I just want the
thread to go away so I can return to enjoying reading this list.

Cheers... Russ

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Gary Spiers wrote:
> HP, I also prefer Mozilla over Netscape ...

Ok, color me clueless.  I've see the name Mozilla for a long
time but I thought it was a synonym for Netscape; now I learn it
is a separate tool.  Can someone describe it a bit and where to
get it?  Any pros and cons?

Cheers... Russ

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Bryan Biggers wrote:
> I don't know about HACK, but I run Nethack version 3.0 on the
> HP200 off the A drive, and it is my second favorite HP200

What is Nethack?  Game?  Where can I get a copy to try?

Cheers... Russ    (always looking for new LX runable games)

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From:         Jessica Blank <hplx@TWU.NET>
Subject:      The Bard's Tale!
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YAY!

        One of the greatest (IMHO) role-playing games of the late '80s--
The Bard's Tale-- runs great on my 200lx. Anyone else have fond memories
of this game, particularly the spectacular Apple IIgs version? :)

                                                        --Jessica


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Mozilla was the original code-name for Netscape (the joke was-- it's named
Netscape, pronounced "Mozilla"). I believe the name derived from the fact
that Netscape was originally derived from Mosaic, but had become so huge
that it was now Mo-ZILLA (a play, of course, on Godzilla).

Some time during the 4.x years of Netscape, they decided to release the
source code to the browser, minus some proprietary gobbledygook, under
their own open-source or open-source-ish license-- I believe called the
Netscape Public License. Hackers from all over the globe soon turned it
into an even bloatier complete browser than Netscape 4.x was, while doing
soe admittedly remarkable things for its ability to render (mangled) pages
previously accessable only to Internet Explorer.

Mozilla was the basis for the Netscape 6 line of commercial browsers from
Netscape/AOL/Time Warner/Compuserve/CNN/etc.

Some people like it; I don't, but I'm weird :)

                                                        --Jessica

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Gary Spiers wrote:
> > HP, I also prefer Mozilla over Netscape ...
>
> Ok, color me clueless.  I've see the name Mozilla for a long
> time but I thought it was a synonym for Netscape; now I learn it
> is a separate tool.  Can someone describe it a bit and where to
> get it?  Any pros and cons?
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Jessica Blank wrote:

>         One of the greatest (IMHO) role-playing games of the late '80s--
> The Bard's Tale-- runs great on my 200lx. Anyone else have fond memories
> of this game, particularly the spectacular Apple IIgs version? :)

Not The Bard's Tale, but Wasteland (same RPG-engine) runs great on the LX
too. Only annoyance is that most of the plot in Wasteland (and Bard's Tale
too, IIRC?) was contained in a booklet, partly as a copy protection scheme
and partly because of memory restrictions (at least in the 8-bit versions
I imagine). This means you either have to take the booklet with you (if
you still have it), or run the game under a task switcher and have a file
viewer app running as another task (since the booklet can be found as a
text file on the net nowadays...)

Of course, if you've played the game enough, chances are you don't need
the booklet anyway ;-)


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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:44:37 -0800
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I have the following for sale. In this section, the price is $1.00 per
lot handling plus actual priority mail postage. Priority mail is $3.50
for up to one pound, $3.95 for two pounds, $5.20 for 3 pounds, $6.45 for
4 pounds, and $7.70 for 5 pounds.

The price is $1.00 handling per lot. I do not charge for software.

Please reply off list. My e-mail is dmp24@juno.com

Check or money order works.

Thanks!

David Peterson

LOT  Description (numbers are lot number from last time)
 #

A   1 Crosstalk Communicator V2.1.0Rev A for US Robotics. Two diskettes
and book. 1990-1992
    6 Supra express 336 version 2 CD
    7 Supra WinICU and legacy install disks 1995
    9 Supra Express 56k software installer CD for Windows
    10 56k LU PCI modem CD suite

B   2 Windows NT 4.0 Boot diskettes, CD, book. Unopened.
    3 Windows NT 4.0 Boot diskettes, CD, book. Unopened.
    30 Windows NT 4.0 CD with copies of boot diskettes

C   11 Folder Bolt for Windows. Diskette/manual. open, never installed.
    12 Lotus Freelance 97 CD with key.
    18 The new Printshop Companion Box, book, 3.5+5.25 diskettes
    20 Zsoft PhotoFinish 4 3.5 diskettes only

D   13 Avery LabelPro Dot Matrix ver 1.0 5 1/4 + 3.5 floppies and book
    14 Labels Unlimited for Win 3.1 CD and book
    16 LabelPro for windows 1.0 manual + 3.5 diskettes
    19 Label Pro for Windows 1.01 3.5 diskettes only

E   15 Norton Commander 2.0 with box and book 5 1/4. Works on 200lx.

F   48 Spinrite II ver 1.0 1 3.5 diskette
    49 CheckIt 3.0 2 3.5 diskettes-Pro 1 3.5 diskette
    17 Check-it Pro 1.0 manual+5 1/4+3.5 diskettes
    Ontrack disk manager

G   21 Microsoft Project for Windows 3 3.5 diskettes 1992
    22 WinFax Pro 3 3.5 diskettes version 3.0
    23 Norton desktop for Windows 4 3,5 diskettes
    24 Microsoft Excel for Windows 1992 4 3.5 diskettes
    26 WinPost vers3.1a 1 3.5 disk (reminder notes manager)
    33 Lotus notes 4.1 CD only
    45 MS Access 2.0  8 diskettes
    46 MS Windows 3.0 5 1/4, 5 diskettes
       MS Project (3?) 3.5 diskettes
       MS Project 4.0 licensed, downloaded 3.5 diskettes

H   28 Windows Encarta '95 CD with key
    31 Robert Trent Jones Golf screen saver cd unopened
    32 Knowledge adventure 2 cd's. came with Packard Bell Pentium pc
    35 Picture it! CD with key 1996
    36 HP cd with Netscape and McAfee unopened
    8 Colorado Backup for DOS Jumbo ver 3.01
    37 MSC cd catalog 2.0

K   29 HP Officejet 600 CD
    38 HP Laserjet 3100 all-in-one software cd
    39 HP laserjet 6p & 6p software cd
    40 HP Deskjet 1000c starter software cd
    41 HP Officejet 600 software cd
    42 HP Deskjet 1000c starter software cd
    43 HP Officejet 520 software cd with Printhouse
    44 HP Laserjet 3100 all-in-one software cd

L   ACT version 3.0 for Win95/NT Upgrade. Unopened. CD and diskettes,
manuals.

Items listed below actually have a price. The price will be listed with
the item. Postage will be priority mail, actual charge. Feel free to buy
multiple items. Everything will be shipped together to save on postage
charges.

M   Xircom Ethernet adapter iips install diskettes, US Robotics Megahertz
install disks,     Omnibook accessories book.  Cost-postage only

N   AMD 486 DX4-100 with two different cache simm-like modules. In
ESD-safe snap case $4.00

O   Datacard pcmcia isa reader assy. 3.5 in form factor in 5.25 mount.
Came from 486/33 hp machine. $10.00

P   Zilog pcmcia entender card with ide proto module and connector for
external dc power. $10.

Q   Megahertz 96 modem/faxmodem. Plugs into db9 serial port, runs on 2 AA
batteries. $5.

R   Jeteye ESI-9510  IR box cabled to box with Centronics male and female
connectors for parallel printer $5.

S   Evergreen 486/133 upgrade module. Usually works with machines that
have a 486 DX-2 chip. $5.

T   Cpu chips 486 DX/2, 386DX/20, 386DX/25, 68010 Motorola in ESD case.
$2

U   Sharp OZ630 hand held. Broken display $1.00

V   Partition Magic 2.0 for Win95, DOS.  $2 includes manual.

W   Windows for workgroups 3.11 diskettes, manuals, box.  $3.00

X   F1015-80002 200lx serial cables. Qty 4. $8 each.

Y   95lx serial cable $5.00

Z   F1011a #ABA  200lx ac adapter  $6 each.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:29:18 +0000
Reply-To:     fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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> Awright that's it.

There are days like that.  And even years.  I suggest taking two
aspirins (you may need them for New Years Eve anyway) and not calling
the list for a day or two.

Happy New Year, you foul mouthed old, oh, wait can't say that here......

Have a good one.

>
> I think I'll make a big production about how I'm leaving the list and
> have everybody beg me to come back... oh, wait... it's been done..
> twice!.... by the same person! Oh, well, nevermind.

Listen, he's also chilling out - quite literally!

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> fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET wrote:
> > I wonder if Curtis Cameron found what the "difference" was on the 200?
> >
> > Does Curtis visit here?
>
> I visit here and read the threads that are of interest to me. Since I skip
> a lot, I really appreciate that when someone starts a new thread, they
> don't just reply to an old one, because I'll probably never see it!
>
> But I'm not aware of any differences in the 100LX and 200LX formats. The
> Outlook converter that I did seems to work for both file types.

Thanks for replying.

Andreas Garzotto's adbio is used to dump/load data to the hp's
appointment book.  It was initially written for the 100.  It works on
that platform in both directions.  For some reason, it fails quite often
on the HP200 in reloading data.  Apparently, even Andy Gryc was not sure
what caused this failure.  There may be some subtle (very subtle)
difference in the formats for the 100 and 200.  Was wondering if you had
ever found anything in your dissections of the data file in your Outlook
programming.

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> Well, after a year, I'm back fiddling with WWW/LX. I would
> really like to connect the LX to my Motorola ST7868W.
> Digital should be no problem, treat it like an external
> 19,200 modem.

Am I wrong or can't that phone be used directly as THE MODEM?  Plug the
Motorola cable in, use the HP cable (and possibly a null modem
adapter)???

Hmmmmmmmmm.

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> Well, after a year, I'm back fiddling with WWW/LX. I would
> really like to connect the LX to my Motorola ST7868W.
> Digital should be no problem, treat it like an external
> 19,200 modem.

Am I wrong or can't that phone be used directly as THE MODEM?  Plug the
Motorola cable in, use the HP cable (and possibly a null modem
adapter)???

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Well, I had not used the connection in about a year but I just did use
WWW/lx on the hp connected to my motorola timeport xxxx whatever
cellphone (the 7868 silver lookalike) and was able to get my hplist
messages.  I'm using one of the original hp connectors - kind of the
narrow 9-9 pin adapters which I think is the null modem???  Along with
the hp and motorola data-cable.  NO other modem.......

Fred

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:05:31 -0700
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Wooowooo! Well, partly. With John's suggestion of using
lxcic (thank you Stefan), that kicked my modems into action.
The 3CXM556 works fine and reliably. Connects at 37,333
using a land line and 4,800 (typical around my area) using
the cell phone in analog mode.

Mr. Kaufman, the cell phone plugs directly (with adaptors)
into the LX if using digital service. So in digital
territory (can't test tonight), the ST7868W is the modem and
connects at 19,200.

For the Motorola Montana 33.6 modem, it connects at 38,400
on land line and completes handshaking half the time.
However, when I run HV, the most it has responded is
receiving 512 bytes. It basically locks up. I've tried
setting www from 9,600 to 38,400 with no changes in HV's
response. So the Motorola does not appear to work in the LX.
Have not tried it with the ST7868W as I don't have the
special cable.

Both modems get somewhat warm, the 3Com a tad warmer. It
does work on batteries. The LX shut down after a few minutes
on a set of 1500mAh that have been heavily used for nearly a
week. Put a fresh set but have not tested run times.

Bob

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> On 12-29 03:28pm CST,
>
> >
> > I have two modems with cell capabilities, a 3Com 3CXM556 and
> > a Motorola 33.6 Montana. I load up CIC100 and plug in the
> > modem while the LX is on. Both shut down the LX which I
> > believe is an indication of too much current draw.
>
> <snip>
>
> Most cards are not hotswappable in the LX. Even a modem that
> doesn't use more than the 150 mA will shut down the LX if you
> plug it in when the LX is on. The best thing to do is look at a
> spec sheet and see what the current requiremnts are for the
> modem.
>
> John
>
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I am sorry if this has shown up repeatedly as I don't seem to get a copy
even those it was sent with two other messages in the same run which did
show up.

I then attempted to resend again and again.  No show.  I also added to
it since I found that the cellphone and hp did work.

Let's see if this message shows up or not???

> Well, after a year, I'm back fiddling with WWW/LX. I would
> really like to connect the LX to my Motorola ST7868W.
> Digital should be no problem, treat it like an external
> 19,200 modem.

Am I wrong or can't that phone be used directly as THE MODEM?  Plug the
Motorola cable in, use the HP cable (and possibly a null modem
adapter)???

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Well, I had not used the connection in about a year but I just did use
WWW/lx on the hp connected to my motorola timeport xxxx whatever
cellphone (the 7868 silver lookalike) and was able to get my hplist
messages.  I'm using one of the original hp connectors - kind of the
narrow 9-9 pin adapters which I think is the null modem???  Along with
the hp and motorola data-cable.  NO other modem.......

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Well, now, isn't that nice...

Pardon the late reply , but I get the list in digest form and
usually only read my e-mail once a day.

I didn't ask anyone to leave the list, or to stop posting, so I
think this kind of response is uncalled-for, and, frankly, rude.
Although I believe that the only excuse for rudeness is
rudeness, I also believe that "a soft answer turneth away
wrath", so I will refrain, and maintain some semblance of
maturity and dignity.

I was only asking that members not post profanity to the list,
and making the observation that to some people, profanity is a
manifestation of several weaknesses, including: lack of
vocabulary, lack of speaking or writing ability, lack of
self-control, laziness, etc., etc.

While, at times, a colorful pronouncement might be applicable,
such words are typically overused and serve no purpose but to
give the speaker something to say, without requiring him or her
to think about what he or she is saying. Those words that can be
termed "biblical" (like "he11", "d@mn", and "a$$") don't bother
me as much and can be ignored. However, such "Eddie Murphy
words" as the "f-word" (f*ck) , the "s-word" (sh*t), etc. are
patently offensive, vulgar, and obscene. And THOSE are the ones
about which I was protesting!

I enjoy this list. I have been quite entertained by some of your
posts, and have gotten some excellent help here and had the
opportunity to help others as well. It has been a very rewarding
experience and I do not intend to leave until the list or the
HPLX is nonexistent. I will not be forced off this list by those
whom I am sorely tempted to refer to as "cretins", but won't
because I decided earlier not to be rude and, therefore, will
simply refer to as "dissenters".

Those list members, dissenters, who don't like me or my opinions
are welcome to do so, since I may hold the same feelings
regarding you and your opinions; as is our natural right. I only
request that you practice some sensitivity, civility and
courtesy, and not post profanity to the list. Is that so hard to
understand or do?

Those who agree with me: I appreciate your support.

Al Kind: Is there any policy regarding this? If so, could you
post it. If not, could we/you make one?  Thanks.


Ian Butler <ianrb@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> So, since people have said that they find your posts
offensive, will you
> stop posting to the list?

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>>that Netscape was originally derived from Mosaic, but had become so huge

interesting tibit seems ie was also, a clip from the ie help about dialog

"Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM);"

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> Just wondering has anybody tried this?

I haven't used PocketDOS, but I do have XT-CE and the associated DOS on =
my
Jornada 690.  I can run the 100LX connectivity pack as well as several =
PAL
applications.  The only one that absolutely won't work is Post/LX.  HV =
works as
does PE, but not Post.  Oh well.

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From:         Adrian Ho <aho-hplx@03S.NET>
Subject:      Re: HACK Game
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2001122920201194@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; from
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 01:21:04AM +0000, Russel Brooks wrote:
> Bryan Biggers wrote:
> > I don't know about HACK, but I run Nethack version 3.0 on the
> > HP200 off the A drive, and it is my second favorite HP200
>
> What is Nethack?  Game?

Not just any game, but a derivative of a Classic that was
popular back when bit-mapped graphics was still a luxury.

> Where can I get a copy to try?

S.U.P.E.R, of course.  Search for "hack" @
<http://www.palmtop.net/super.html>

Well, OK, that isn't Nethack, but it should give you the
flavor of it.

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Hi Hans Peter

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:03:39 +0100, HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Sorry. This ended up in the wrong mailing list ;-)

But was interesting anyway! Thanks for the mistake!

GTX
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jimmytan@yeos.com.my wrote:
>
> Just wondering has anybody tried this? I don't have a CE machine so I can't
> confirm if it can really run DOS and HP 200LX programs like it claims it can.
> Appreciate any input from fellow LX-ers!
>
> Source: http://www.pocketdos.com/

I have a Jornada 720 and found the following (running PocketDOS) :

working DOS prog's : difficulties in setting up the right screen driver

dBASE III+
Framework II
Lotus 1-2-3 v 2.4 (very slow)
Word55
Lotus Magellan
Quicken v 8
Nierenberg ProjektKickstart
Nierenberg The Art of Negotiation
Collins Dictionary
PIM/PE (very slow)
CPACK (needs @rem in front of cg.com in app200.bat)
DOSCIM
acCIS4
WWW/LX (very slow)
FTP/LX
PKUNZIP
ROBONEWS/LX
ROBOWEB/LX
POST/LX as standalone reader for ROBONEWS/LX and ROBOWEB/LX

not :
POST/LX v2 and v3 as mailclient together with WWW/LX
SKETCH3 (junior version of AutoCAD)
FoxPro
Nierenberg IdeaGenerator


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Gary Spiers wrote:
>
> I guess we need a separate HPLX (and OB) users that use Linux mailing
> list<g>.

I visit enough mailing list's and newsgroup's - thanks ;-)

> HP, I also prefer Mozilla over Netscape but have been using Konqueror
> in preference over either of them.

I like the integration of Netscape browser and communicator together
with the ability to add and publish webpages on the fly. Any way I will
have a look at Mozilla - I think I have a recent version on a CD.

> For email I was mostly using kmail
> for a while but concluded that the convenience of the hplx with post/lx
> can not be beat and use it exclusively for daily email.

I am 99.99% relying on POST/LX for communications. The rest is company
mail which is handled by my secretary mostly (g) and fooling around now
with Linux to see how it works.

> (BTW did you get your winmodem working as a linmodem?)

Nope. I was meesing around with installing Debian, RedHat and Slackware
mostly. It took me two more days to find out that you need identical
/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to get a working internet
connection. No progress with the linmodem.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:44:45 +0100
Reply-To:     Harry Wellner <hwellner@PLANET.NL>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@PLANET.NL>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX - IrDA - Linux - Wireless LAN .. it works!!
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> This email reaches you from Post/LX via: WWW/LX, IrDA to an Omnibook
> 800 running Linux with IP forwarding connected via wireless LAN to a
> wLAN access point in my university which is connected to the Internet.

Daniel as told before I do not understand how you can manage
your knowledge and organise these things. I have no Linux but
working through Irda to another desktop with MochaPPP example
with the aid of IE explorer on a offcie desktop seems for me a
very practicle solution too in order to prevent the modem
connection usage at the office.

As a simple user I will see how far I can manage this all.

Thanks for your present and willingness to share your
ideas / thoughts.

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>         One of the greatest (IMHO) role-playing games of the late =
'80s--
> The Bard's Tale-- runs great on my 200lx. Anyone else have fond memories
> of this game, particularly the spectacular Apple IIgs version? :)

Yes, I also have fond memories of The Bard's Tale on my Apple IIgs.  I =
have
briefly tried it on my 200LX, but don't have time to get into it again.
Perhaps I can get my son hooked <eg>.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:42:59 -0500
Reply-To:     Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
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From:         Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
Subject:      problems with 128mb hpc-si128m
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My new multimedia card 128mb doesn't work properly
in my DS 200LX.
The card is recognized and directories and files are
shown after booting.
But after copying a file from c:(hplx 64mb) to a:(the 128mb-card),
the lx crashes.
The file is copied to the card. So the system stops after the
process of copying.
Only ctrl-alt-del will start it again.
I am starting lxcic during booting.
My 8mb card doesn't show this problems.
On my SS 200lx I encounter the same result.
Is there a solution or is it just bad luck with the card?
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Just to let you know that the new Netscape 6.2 is the choice with
> > Linux. It now allows multiple mailboxes as KMAIL. The advantage
> > compared to KONQUEROR is the ability to access FTP and to edit/upload
> > your homepage on the fly.
>
> Does it also support AUTH-SMTP, as Post/LX does? This is my main
> problem with kmail currently, since I want to use the SMTP server of
> GMX, which requires SMTP-AUTH (or other techniques as SMTP after POP,
> but I try to avoid this).

I think you can - the SMTP setup allows specification of login and
password. I'm unable to test as I'm away from the desktop now.

Gary : I have Mozilla 0.7 installed and a CD which has Mozilla 0.95.
Are they recent enough and is it worthwhile to check them out ?

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Subject:      Re: C language: how small can binaries be?
Comments: To: aho-hplx@03S.NET
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(This reply is sent both privately and to the list)

Thanks for response, Adrian.

> On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 07:14:34PM +0100, Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> > It's practically merely a command-line-user-interface to
> > many BIOS fucntions on the hplx-palmtops.
>
> In that case, try doing away with string handling entirely.
> Two ideas off the top of my head:
>
> İ1¨ Command-line arguments could be single characters instead
>     of long strings.

Yes, That's already the case.

> İ2¨ Instead of printing status/error messages, return specific
>     error codes instead, and let batch files do the rest.

This is not what LXSTAT does. Because this program tries
to be self-documenting and to free the users from maintaining
more than one files. LXSTAT.COM alone is designed to contain
all essential help-messages, examples, and error messages specific
to it.

I've forgotten to mention something in the first post. Efforts
have been made to avoid including the Turbo C floating-point
library. One single statement containing e.g. "27.46 * regs.h.al"
will result in drastic change in binary size because the
compliler will include the whole floating-point facilities.
All fractional outputs of a number has been done in LXSTAT
by special manipulation using integer arithmetic. This saved
ca. 14 Kbytes!

In fact, C codes can already be compiled very small.
For example, fectching the first instruction pointed to
by a far pointer in the interrupt vector table of DOS can
hardly be better re-written in assembly than compiled in C
using proper pointer manipulation. (Yes, I've tried that
and I could not beat the compiler. :) But I'm still very
curious what remains redundant in the resulting binary of
LXSTAT.COM  :)

I suspect the Ctrl-C handler for catching the KILL-signal
could probably be included in the binary by the compiler.
(I'm not sure.) If this would be the case, I would try to
get rid of it!  And I'm surious what else would the compiler
include to my binary ...

> As to how you determine what you "absolutely need", more time
> spent in the design phase has been known to yield suprising
> insights into this matter.

Yes, I agree that the design affect the size significantly.
I think the design has been fixed though. It allow the users
to type e.g.

   lxstat display mode = lxstat mode (I use goto here!)
   lxstat off
   lxstat serial line DTR high
   lxstat timeout 3
   lxstat charge timer 7:30
   lxstat battery nicd
   lxstat litesleep disable
   lxstat charge enable
   lxstat typematic
   lxstat 8254 18,0,2
   lxstat IRQ 4 0
   lxstat alarm +0:30:0
   ...

(they are checked by the first letter only) I'm aware that
it is a dirty hack of "natural language processing".
However, this is still a research issue and adopting any
algorithm will surely be huge in size! Or, ... does anyone
has a good idea?

Rudi

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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:44:50 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      OT: Fwd: Mail Delivery Status Notification
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Hi friends,

everytime I send an email to the list containing the workd "Homepage"
in the subject, I get something like the following (Email addresses
x'ed):

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: Postmaster <xxxxxx@yyyyyyyyyy.com>
To:  "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hxxxxxxxx@GMX.DE>
Subject: Mail Delivery Status Notification
Date: 28 Dec 2001 13:35:29 -0600

------_=_NextPart_2
Content-Type: text/plain;

MAIL ESSENTIALS SENDER NOTIFICATION

The following message:

TO:      xxxxxxxx@yyyyyyyyy.com
FROM:    daniel.hxxxxxxxx@GMX.DE
DATE:             Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:33:43 +0200
Subject: Homepage updated - Goin Postal download, Transfile bugfix...


has been quarantined by Mail Essentials for the following reason(s):

Subject contains word(s)/phrase(s) 'Homepage'


Mail essentials

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--- end of forwarded message ---

Does anyone know why someone does setup such filters?

TNX and sorry for the off topic
daniel


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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:44:56 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Robert

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:28:18 -0700, "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone have a suggestion for cell capable modems that
> work with the LX and StarTacs? And, yes, I want to run
> analog because I live in analog cell territory.

All I can contribute to this topic is readable on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

Don't know if you find anything useful regarding analogue phones. It
covers mainly digital ones.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:06:49 +0100
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From:         Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Hi Larry

> If it is a company's LAN, maybe there is some kind of Proxy of
> Firewall? That could prevent MochaPPP from working. I don't know about
> any options in MochaPPP which can be set to use a Proxy or to work
> around a firewall.

Indeed, I face the same problem when connecting at the office. I think =
that
the problem lies with WWW/LX which might not be HTTP 1.1 compliant. Try
using HV and read the error message that is sent back by your office =
network
proxy. Maybe there is a way for MochaPPP to solve this by sending the
required authentication whenever needed but I am no expert in that field.

Maybe the Mocha PPP author can give a hint.

 \/
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Daniel,
>
> If it is a company's LAN, maybe there is some kind of Proxy of Firewall?=
 That could prevent MochaPPP from working. I don't know about any options =
in MochaPPP which can be set to use a Proxy or to work around a firewall. =
Please ask the MochaPPP users.
>

  The conpany's LAN does have a firewall, but I had assumed that would =
not be a problem, since mochaPPP and the 200lx is apparently transparent =
as far as the LAN sees.  However, I think you are essentially right and I =
will contact mochasoft to ask their advice.

Larry

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Date:         Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:42:19 +0000
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Battery Charger Experts,

  I just bought some AAA Nimh batteries to replace the NiCd ones in my =
MP3 player.  The package says to not use a NiCd charger for charging Nimh =
batteries.  Why not?  The charger I use is a simple small one capable of =
charging 4 AAs or AAAs. If I charge the Nimh for 6hrs, then unplug it and =
replug it for another 6hrs, won't that work?

Larry

PS:  I'm switching to Nimh to get better results in the cold (as in =
skiing)

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Date:         Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:11:06 +0200
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Well, it finally happenned. My trusty 4mb HPLX developed a hinge crack in
a very bad way after about 2 years of constant use. Every now and again I
would check for a crack, and never saw one. This week I had a very bad crack,
and on removing theright hinge cover, saw that the hing itself is starting to
suffer damage. So I went to Daniel's hinge crack page, and from ther to
Alan Striegel's repair page and decided to glue the crack as well as glue a
metal sheet over the crack for support. Having very few tools at home I had
to improvise. In order to put pressure on the crack while it was being glued,
I jammed it between books in a bookcase and the side of the bookcase, with
a coin covering the hinge. This kept the crack closed while the glue was
drying. For the metal sheet to cover the flap, I removed the metal catch
from a disk drive - the one that covers the disk when the disk is not in use.
It is very thin and at the same time strong enough.

After 24 hours intraction with epoxy glue, my palmtop is now back inaction.
Many thanks to those who have published solutions to hinge crack problems.
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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:19:02 +0800
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Hi everybody,

An HP 95LX just landed on my lap. It works with my NiCd rechargeables and the
200LX AC adaptor, though I can't find any indication as to which one power
source it's actually running on when the adaptor is plugged in.

I have some questions to ask but thought of not bugging everyone on the list.
Any experienced 95LX users here that I can take my questions off-line to?

Any help would be great.

Thanks and best regards. Oh, Happy New Year too!

Jimmy.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:37:02 +0100
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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
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F. Kaufman wrote:
> İ...¨  There may be some subtle (very subtle)
> difference in the formats for the 100 and 200.  Was wondering if you had
> ever found anything in your dissections of the data file in your Outlook
> programming.

Lacking example files from the 100LX, I can't say what the differences
might be.  However, if someone sends a few example files, I'll take
a look at them and will try to document differences in my ADB
description
at http://hp200lx-db.sourceforge.net/docs/adb-format.html

Sofar I only came across one difference between Andy Gryc's description,
but this has to do with CARDPAGEDEF records which (I think) are not
present
in ADB files:

http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/pub/english.cgi/0/27813

Since I do not have examples about 100LX GDB files, I can't verify if
this
might actually be a bug in the description.

+gg

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:19:55 +0100
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My company will eventually force me to use Outlook/PocketOutlook and I
am preparing myself for this day.

As of today I will continue to use my HP200LX. However I am preparing
myself for the swith.

POST/LX does not run under PocketDOS but PocketOutlook will allow me to
do e-mail. Not as good as POST/LX but it should work (also with the
cellphone).

PExcel and PWord are OK. I will miss graphs and such goodies as GRAB
and FIND/LX.

My major concern was with PocketQuicken and PIM/PE. Fortunately PIM/PE
exports *.CSV and Outlook imports *.CSV.

I have switched from PocketQuicken to Quicken v8 for DOS which runs
well on the HP200LX, the laptop and under PocketDOS on my Jornada720.
So no problems with converting to a different platform.

So I'm more or less prepared for the future :)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:25:04 +0200
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Hi Rei,

sorry for the late reply -

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:41:09 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?q?rei=20vilo?= <rei_vilo@YAHOO.FR> wrote:

> So I tried again. Here are the results:
>
> EMI Errors/sec = 23
>
>   27  27  44  18  23   1  16  28  27  25  24  16  12
> 12
>
> İ...¨
>
> 24
>  178 205 180 165 206 190  24  24 102 206 205 116  25
> 24
>   24  36  55  12  25 138 206  69  35 40   21  21   0
> 13
>    3 109 181  24  12  21  12  12   1 ...
>
> The closer the mobile phone, the higher the values. I

Yes, this sounds more reasonable! :-)

> hope there are not other consequecnes but IR
> disturbancies and that I am not going to suffer from
> other data losses. Mobile phones are dangerous, aren't
> they?

I really cannot imagine that the coltages are SO high that they cause
data corruptions. But anyway - try to put your phone as far as possible
form the LX when connecting to the Internet, so you surely won't get
data losses due to the cell phone disturbance.

The intensity of the electromagnetic field around the antenna of a
mobile pone decreases with the square of the distance.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:25:07 +0200
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Hi Martin

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:20:06 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:

> How is the speed running WWW/LX on ethernet compared to serial?

Much faster.
Over the serial line, it is about as fast (slow ;-) ) as over a 56k
modem. But well - I mainly use it for email and Roboweb. So it makes no
big difference for me if I use serial or ethernet. So I rather use
serial, so I don't hae to swap cards and I can access the flash card
during the connection is established.

> I use a EN2216-1 now and the speed is okey. But I am running out of
> discspace so I may need the memorycard soon. Serial would be the way to
> go then, but I do not want have the speed be reduced to much.

What do you need the speed for?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:25:09 +0200
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Hi Yves,

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:32:25 +0100, Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote:

> This is a new challenge for Daniel ;)

here I am!

> When you look at an Ericsson T39 it has both IR and Bluetooth connectivity.
> The HP200LX has IR connection. Hence the idea : Is there a way to program the
> T39 to connect its IR port to its Bluetooth port as a passthrough. The T39
> would become effectively a Bluetooth modem connected to the HPLX via
> the Infrared port. No additional cable, no extra power requirement, no extra
> hardware

Well.
This idea is GREAT! But unfortunately, this is not possible for us.
The solution would be simple: Simply pass data inside the phone from
the IR to Bluetooth and vice versa. No big job, it only had to be
programmed into the firmware of the phone.
The people at Ericsson had to be convinced to implement that.

This would be an ideal solution for printing over Bluetooth, or
connecting to another computer. Well, no: The only program which can do
IrDA on the palmtop is WWW/LX. And WWW/LX cannot print or transfer
files easily (Only via FTP or HTTP). So This would not be really
useful for us.

But exactly this kind of ideas is necessary to make things possible
which noone has ever thought of before. Firmware programmers whould ask
people like you what is missing in their products.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:20:49 -0600
Reply-To:     Leo Bellantoni <bellanto@FNAL.GOV>
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Hi list,
        Two questions:

        (1) Where might I find Derive? I found an executable out there,
but nothing more.
        (2) Do you often find perfectly workable database files that bomb
entirely in garlic?  I have a number of files that I use daily, but
garlic.exe says "ERROR: File is too damaged to patch virtual lookup
table."
                                        many thanks,
                                              Leo
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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:21:44 -0500
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D&A Software wishes all of you, customers, and fellow admirers
of the HP 200LX platform a Happy New Year. May the coming year
be filled with plenty of discoveries of wonderful programs,
good plans for "the Sequel", victories over recalcitrant and
uncooperative software, lots of storage options and battery
life.

On this occasion, D&A Software announces a change in its
structure. We split the entity into distribution and
development. Ownership of development now rests wholly with
Andreas Garzotto, who owns the programs, the code etc. The
distribution part, including marketing, sales, and support,
has been transferred to Avi Meshar. We expect no changes in
the operation which will affect our customers.

Best Wishes,

   Avi Meshar  &  Andreas Garzotto

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:35:43 +0000
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Bob,
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion for cell capable modems that
> work with the LX and StarTacs? And, yes, I want to run
> analog because I live in analog cell territory.

I use the RXP thinfax 33.6 modem.  I don't currently have a startac that =
is compatible (I have the 7798i), but in the past I have used this modem =
to hook a 200lx up to a motorala cell phone.

Larry

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jan 2002 08:56:04 +1300
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Another .ZIP is here:

http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb/roboweb.zip

See RWHIST.DOC for changes.

I now have all X-boxes except for the SMS box in a separate
XPOST.CFG and run this in a separate SC session. The POST.CFG
İFOLDERS¨ section only shows the one SMS=X. Provided the SMS
box is marked for visit the "ExtProg" still runs and all the
X-boxes are processed. I just need to swap SC sessions to see
them. The XPOST.CFG only has X boxes in İFOLDERS¨, apart from a
mail=E. Why do I do this? Just because I have so many X-boxes
it is more convenient to have them separate than as part of a
longer list. Also it means each .CFG is smaller than a combined
.CFG.

Happy New Year to all. I hear the new Euro has an English look
to it - a cunning move<G>.

- Tony

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Date:         Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:51:11 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind <albert.kind@UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All & Happy New Year!

Here is some stuff that can be had fro free(if you want it fast, it will
cost you shipping)

1) leather holster for SAGEM MODEM

2) cable for SAGEM MODEM

3) Motorola Personal Messenger 100D wireless MODEM (this ran on the ARDIS
network which I can't find any current info on, so I guess this is a nice
paperweight(?)


Cheers...AJKind

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