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Jeff Johns wrote:
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> I stand corrected!!! After messing with my autoexec.bat file I properly
> got it set-up to load the click program and it does work with EXM
> programs. As I said in my earlier post, I will be happy to email it to
> anyone who wants it. And yes, you can toggle it on and off!!!

Please send me a copy of HPCLICK.

David

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On July 31 Saar Avigour asked me to post the script for using WWW/LX
and POST}LX in Israel.

I have forwarded the information to Avi Meshar at D&A Software for
posting on the D&A web site.

If it doesn't appear soon, let me know and I will be pleased to forward
it on.

Be assured that the program does work great with Compuserve in Israel.
I have used it in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and will us eit next week in
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Hi,
I followed the instructions from the palmtop.net regarding this.  I did
everything it says, except that instead of placing the programs in an A
drive it is in my f drive.

I always get the error, can't find file f:\m ....any key continues.
this prompt is from the gdspell program, not from dos.

If someone can help me, I would gladly appreciate it.

I have all 3 programs in my f:\gdspell directory
spell.exe
mf.exe
memochk.bat which has this line in it. (f:\gdspell\mf spell \M)
I also placed mf into my path file.

I think that it is the mf program that is not working right.  It doesn't
seem to be passing the last doc file from memo to the spell program.  I
am using a hp200lx 1mg w/ a 15 mg card jammed w/ 30+ mg.

TIA
Marta

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Hello to everyone!

Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as opposed to
a spelling dictionary). Though I guess it would require a pretty big database
to be a useful reference...  But also much lighter than a corresponding
hard-copy dictionary.

Cheers
B

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The File export function which copies items to the HP PIMs works OK on
my setup and I have my files in C:\_dat and project 200 on the A
drive. I does take a while for the transfer to happen though.

R

>
> That is apparently it's best feature.  The linkage option apparently lets
> you link the items to your appointment book, todo list,etc.  For that to
> happen you need to set it up to do so (Linkages) and the appt files need
> to be in A:\_dat\.  It is apparently hardwired to that directory.
>
> I have not been able to get that useful feature to work for me on my 200
> LX but Jim A. Dantin" <jdantin@kih.net> has and told me about it.  I sure
> wish I could get that to work as he apparently has because that would make
> it really useful.  It apprently posts the item to your appointment book,
> etc.
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
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> Hello to everyone!
>
> Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as opposed to
> a spelling dictionary). Though I guess it would require a pretty big database
> to be a useful reference...  But also much lighter than a corresponding

You can try JORJ at www.shareware.com

Hope it helps,
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Yes, I've using a DOS program that I got years ago called CHOICE WORDS
that has Webster's electronic dictionary and thesaurus.

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>> Hello to everyone!
>>
>> Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as
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>> a spelling dictionary). Though I guess it would require a pretty big
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On 31 Jul 1997 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> BTW I never take my EXP Modem/memory card out of my HP and I still=
 see
> about two weeks of use from a charge on the nicads.  The modem part=
 gets
> used less than 5 minutes for those two weeks.

Two weeks!? What's your secret? My EXP also stays in all the time and
I never go online or use the modem without the adapter and I have to
recharge my 1200Mah NiMH's every 3 days or so! I have never seen as=
 much
as a week but then again I switch my unit on/off dozens of time every=
 day
with an average daily usage of a couple hours (plus I use Stacker which
seems to quicken the discharge rate).

I have set Buddy to lock the serial port and this has helped me to coax=
 the
3 days out of a full charge...

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>Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as opposed to
>a spelling dictionary).

There are several old DOS-based apps that work good on the 200LX providing
that you have the disk space. The one I use takes about 3MB and some take as
much as 12MB. I found one the other day called:

"Random House Webster's Electronic Dictionary & Thesaurus College Edition"

It was published by the Wordperfect Corp back in 1993 and comes on 6-1.2MB
disks. I have not tried to install it as I do not have the disk space. One
thing strange about it is that it loads up as a TSR and can be called to
action with a keystroke combo. This is also the first one I have found with
a thesaurus included. It would porbably work better for someone running a
Software Carousel session that could be dedicated to a dictionary.

Keep you eyes open for old DOS titles with "American Heritage Dictionary" on
the box. They seem to work the best.

Mitch

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On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as opposed to
> a spelling dictionary). Though I guess it would require a pretty big database
> to be a useful reference...  But also much lighter than a corresponding
> hard-copy dictionary.

There's Jorj (shareware). Registered version upgrades the dictionary and
increases the size (I think) from 1mb to 5mb. The words appear to be
uncompressed, so I think there's some wasted space. I forget where I got
it from, but I think shareware sites still have it.

I use Framework-3, an integrated package that includes a spell-checker
with definitions (Merriam-Webster). The dictionary is compressed and only
takes up 222k (tho it needs the rest of the package to run and the whole
shebang is 2.2mb..spreadsheet,word-processor and database).

I believe also mentioned in the old list group (palmtop.net) was American
Heritage-Definitions Plus.

You'll have a hard time finding any DOS based dictionary these
days...mostly at the software liquidators.

Good hunting.

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: Batteries for the 200LX

Form: Memo
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If anyone is interested YES Solar carries
1300MAH NIMH batteries they are $4.95 a peice
2 for $9.50 or 4 for $18.50, they also sell
a combo pack, 4 batteries and a Nimh charger
for $37.95.

I bought the combo pack and have had good
results from these cells.

here is their URL:
http://www.yessolar.com/products.htm



Good Luck,




>Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:49:11 -0500
>From:    Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
>Subject: Re: TECH: Batteries
>
>If you don't mind me asking, and assuming you are using AA size nicads,
>where did you find 1100mAh nicads?
>
>       TECH: Batteries
>
>I'm using a very high current draw PCMCIA card in my 200LX, and my
>alkalines will usually go dead in an hour or so.  I've been using
>high-capacity 1100mAh nicads, but I'm afraid these wouldn't last long
>enough to be feasible.  Lithium batteries are a little expensive at
>$3.00 apiece.  So I was just wondering...
>How well do NiMH batteries work in the palmtop, and would they last
>significantly longer than 1100mAh nicads?
>Also, why aren't there any rechargeable lithium ion AA batteries?  If
>it's good enough for laptops...why not palmtops?   That might be a good
>idea... the life of lithium batteries combined with rechargeability.
>If anyone has any comments or ideas, please post them!
>


Chris Hudak
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>I was quoted as saying...
>> BTW I never take my EXP Modem/memory card out of my HP and I still see >
about two weeks of use from a charge on the nicads.  The modem part
>>gets > used less than 5 minutes for those two weeks.

Ian Melville responded with...
> Two weeks!? What's your secret? My EXP also stays in all the time and I
>> never go online or use the modem without the adapter and I have to recharge
> my 1200Mah NiMH's every 3 days or so! I have never seen as much as a
>> week but then again I switch my unit on/off dozens of time every day with
an
> average daily usage of a couple hours (plus I use Stacker which seems to
>> quicken the discharge rate).
>
>> I have set Buddy to lock the serial port and this has helped me to coax the
>>3
>> days out of a full charge...

To which (with great knowlage and understanding) I reply...  I don't
know.
But! I will watch myself for the next cycle (battery cycle) and see what
I might be doing to get the life I get from my batteries.
A question, how old are your nicads?

Phil

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     Hi Folks,

     Just thought I would introduce myself as a new user of the 200LX
     and also of the list.

     My name is Ian and I have only been using the LX for a few weeks
     but I have found it to be incredibly useful, more so when I came
     across Buddy. I must be getting old, it's bad news (so I have been
     informed) when you get really excited about a piece of software
     like Buddy!

     Anyway, I have ordered the SDK which I am sure will answer many of
     my questions but I just can't wait and I know that there must be a
     wealth of knowledge/experience out there that can help me now.

     So:-

     1. Is there any way of removing/hiding icons that belong
        to 'built in' applications? ie ccMail etc!

     2. Anyone know of a good Database that is small enough yet
        powerful enough to handle in excess of 8000 records of
        up to 512 bytes/characters?

     3. I use a directory sort utility (DS.EXE from Norton Utils)
        when in DOS but this does not seem to work on the 200LX
        and reports "Directory not found"! Anyone any idea why?

     I will leave it at that for the moment. Have a great weekend
     as it starts in about 90 minutes - for me.....

     Regards
     Ian

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Phil Drummond reported that he gets about two weeks out a set of
NiCd's, with his EXP modem/memory card always in place.  Ian Melville
commented that he has to recharge his NiMH's every three days or so,
with the same card.  Even if their usage patterns are the same, this
doesn't suprise me.

NiMH's are known to have a higher self-discharge rate.  I've seen
reports of them losing charge anywhere from 3 to 10 times faster than
NiCd's.   This is consistent with my experience with NiMH's in cell
phones.

                                -Jim.

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NiMH's are known to have a higher self-discharge rate.  I've seen
reports of them losing charge anywhere from 3 to 10 times faster than
NiCd's.   This is consistent with my experience with NiMH's in cell
phones.

                                -Jim.
By taking into account Ian Melville's, Jim Gonzalez's, and  my own
observations, it would seem that NiMH cells should be used in high
discharge  applications where recharging is not a problem and NiCd's are
better suited to median discharge applications where longer time between
recharging is required.  As an added note, I get less time from Alkaline
cells than I am currently getting from Rat Shack's 850mAh nicads.

Phil

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Hi all
  Compaq had dropped WinCE prices today.  Expect others to do the same.

Vivek

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>Hi all
>  Compaq had dropped WinCE prices today.  Expect others to do the same.
>
>Vivek
WHY???????????????????
Remember you are a 200lx user and so are we. According to me dropping
price of WinCE will only make you (200lx users) disappear. So I will be
alone with the only dos based Palmtop and I won't have enough new progs
to have fun. 8-).

----------------------
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>Remember you are a 200lx user and so are we. According to me dropping
>price of WinCE will only make you (200lx users) disappear. So I will be
>alone with the only dos based Palmtop and I won't have enough new progs
>to have fun. 8-).
>

I choose a 200LX because
1.  It runs an operating system that probably has more applications written
for it in history than anything else
2.  The software is mature and lightweight
3.  I knew how to use it  :-)

If there is something new that can satisfy all these requirements and has
something more, I would not hesitate to switch.  Currently CE is at ver.
1.0  which means that the customers are doing the testing.  There arent
enough apps written too.  But all these are just 'teething problems'  they
will cease to exist in a few years.  Then I dont see a need for my 200LX
when better things are available.  To me its just a tool replace it when it
gets old or you get a better tool.

Vivek

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In a way, I am surprised that HP would try to market WinCE LX palmtops.

With the 95/100/200LX HP had 100% of the market.

With WinCE, HP has to share the market with several other vendors.

Even if the 95/100/200LX market is only 10% that size of WinCE, HP would still be ahead
because of less pricing pressures and 100% control of it's market.

It will be interesting how this develops, considering Microsoft's past successes (not!) in
developing new non-DOS/Windows platforms.
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           8/1/97 6:03:43 PM EDT
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On 1 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> I will watch myself for the next cycle (battery cycle) and see what=
 I
> might be doing to get the life I get from my batteries. A question,=
 how
> old are your nicads?

Phil, I use 1200mAh 1.2v NiMH batteries ('GP' brand). Started using=
 'em
last December. The battery states: 'standard charge 14Hrs. at 120mA'=
 but
of course they don't actually charge for more than about 5hrs with ABC/LX.=


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>      1. Is there any way of removing/hiding icons that belong
>         to 'built in' applications? ie ccMail etc!
>
  Not easily.  Most people find that simply moving the icons (using the
F7 "Order" option) to the far end of the list is good enough.

>      2. Anyone know of a good Database that is small enough yet
>         powerful enough to handle in excess of 8000 records of
>         up to 512 bytes/characters?
>
  Why not use the HPLX internal database?  :¬)
  Just press ÝCtrl+Phone¨ and create your own template...

>      3. I use a directory sort utility (DS.EXE from Norton Utils)
>         when in DOS but this does not seem to work on the 200LX
>         and reports "Directory not found"! Anyone any idea why?
>
  Can you give an example of which directories you are trying to sort?

  Regards,
             ... JLS

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Francois-Xavier Albouy wrote:
>
> >Hi all
> >  Compaq had dropped WinCE prices today.  Expect others to do the same.
> >
> >Vivek
> WHY???????????????????
> Remember you are a 200lx user and so are we. According to me dropping
> price of WinCE will only make you (200lx users) disappear. So I will be
> alone with the only dos based Palmtop and I won't have enough new progs
> to have fun. 8-).

Yes, it is a shame to be limited to all DOS 5.0 compatible software that
can run on an XT clone.  Sooooo limiting. 8¬)

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IM NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER THAN LOWERS.

REF DS.... (MENU)(T) NOW YOU ARE IN BARE DOS. RUN DS WHERE EVER. THEN CD
\ AND RUN (200) BACK TO MANAGER.

73 SPENCE, K4KEP


Ian Sargent wrote:
>
>      Hi Folks,
>
>      Just thought I would introduce myself as a new user of the 200LX
>      and also of the list.
>
>      My name is Ian and I have only been using the LX for a few weeks
>      but I have found it to be incredibly useful, more so when I came
>      across Buddy. I must be getting old, it's bad news (so I have been
>      informed) when you get really excited about a piece of software
>      like Buddy!
>
>      Anyway, I have ordered the SDK which I am sure will answer many of
>      my questions but I just can't wait and I know that there must be a
>      wealth of knowledge/experience out there that can help me now.
>
>      So:-
>
>      1. Is there any way of removing/hiding icons that belong
>         to 'built in' applications? ie ccMail etc!
>
>      2. Anyone know of a good Database that is small enough yet
>         powerful enough to handle in excess of 8000 records of
>         up to 512 bytes/characters?
>
>      3. I use a directory sort utility (DS.EXE from Norton Utils)
>         when in DOS but this does not seem to work on the 200LX
>         and reports "Directory not found"! Anyone any idea why?
>
>      I will leave it at that for the moment. Have a great weekend
>      as it starts in about 90 minutes - for me.....
>
>      Regards
>      Ian
>
>       ***************************************************************
>      * Ian Sargent, E.S.O. Systems Manager  Tel:-    +44 1344 763312 *
>      * Hewlett Packard Ltd                  Fax:-    +44 1344 763151 *
>      * Nine Mile Ride                       Telnet:- 315-3312        *
>      * Wokingham                            Internet Mail Address:-  *
>      * Berks                                ian_sargent@hp.com       *
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Hello to everyone!
>
> Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as opposed to
> a spelling dictionary). Though I guess it would require a pretty big database

A while back Surplus Software had a package called "The Writer's Toolkit" which includes a
whole suite of software, including the American Heritage Dictionary, Roget's II Thesaurus,
Concise Columbia Dictionary of Quotations, Abbreviation Expander, The Written Word III,
Dictionary of Common Knowledge, and CorrecText Grammar and Style Checker, all in a pop-up
TSR.  It's a little large for  the 200LX, but you do have the option of just installing
particular modules.  I've got the Dictionary and Thesaurus installed into 3MB of space on
a flash card (the dictionary itself takes up 1.9MB, and there are some index files as
well).  The TSR takes up 10K of memory, but it doesn't work well with the System Manager,
so it is best to use it in a separate Software Carousel session.  It is a pretty nice
program-- I'm not sure how many definitions it has, but it seems fairly complete.  Anyway,
check around and some surplus places might still have it.

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Repositng my survey for those who missed it.

Current results are:
        About 6 billion people want a copy of TinyTalk -- I think I've responded=
 to all who've asked....
        One person has the SDK and says its a Best Buy
        Two or three people use Linux
        Two or three people are interested in forming a programming group
        Basically everyone thinks Linux for the 200 is a stupid idea (builtin =
stuff is better suited)
        No one has any idea about the IDE-PCMCIA thing but thinks its an interes=
ting thought

_Please_ mail responses to me directly -- don't post them to the listserv=
.  My address is
        ianrb@caspers.net

Thank you all in advance.  Those who have responded please do not do so =
again.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
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> Date: Monday, July 28, 1997 16:08:04
> From: Ian Butler
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Survey
>
> I have a survey that I just now made up.  If you guys could send
> the results to ianrb@caspers.net, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> 1 - Would anyone be interested in a program I found called TinyTalk.
> It's a program which speaks in response to keystrokes and
> displayed information.  The thing is very nice for hard-to-see
> environments, and has the added benefit of no one being able to
> understand it but you. ;)  It is a very tinny computer voice but
> makes an excellent reading aid.  Don't believe it runs with VR, tho. =
:(
>
> 2 - How many of you have the SDK?  And how good is it?  I am
> a programmer and am looking for cool stuff to do, and it seems to me
> that sysmgr compliance is the way to go, it's just so _____ expensive
> to get the SDK!
>
> 3 - I am interested in forming a programming group for the 200.  It wou=
ld
> be interesting to see what a group of us 200'ers could do with that lit=
tle
> machine.  Tell me if you're interested -- I've got ideas but not the =
time to
> code 'em myself.
>
> 4 - I encourage people to do research on ELKS linux.  It may be the OS
> of choice for this computer!  How many of you guys use Linux or another
> U**X OS?
>
> 5 - There is no #5!  (gag vomit)
>
> 6 - I have heard of IDE to PCMCIA interface cards.  Can these be used =
w/
> standard IDE 3-1/2" HDDs?  I can build a power supply and put it in a =
box,
> which would be far cheaper than buying an external HD, I just need to =
know
> if that would work.
>
> Well, as it turns out, this is more of a questionaire than a survey. =
 Sorry
> about
> that. ;)  Anyway, I'm just curious and I'll post results in a few weeks=
 (that
> is
> assuming anyone will respond to this.)
>
> Thanx in advance....
> Ian Butler
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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On 1 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> Remember you are a 200lx user and so are we. According to me dropping
> price of WinCE will only make you (200lx users) disappear.

Does that mean that the only reason you are (still) using a 200LX is
because of the current price of a WinCE box? If these boxes sell for=
 100
bucks there will likely be increased sales but the reasons for users
staying with the 200LX remain the same (at least for the foreseeable
future or at any rate until the Psion 5 captures a few hearts).

> So I will be alone with the only dos based Palmtop and I won't have=
 enough
> new progs to have fun. 8-).

You shall never be alone here - trust me... <g> Up to today I was having=
 a
conversation with someone about DOS who also claimed that it is dead.
However this person uses Windows 95 both at home and in the office.=
 Guess
many don't realise what lies below Win95... :-)

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On 1 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> Hi all
>   Compaq had dropped WinCE prices today.  Expect others to do the=
 same.

When computer retail stores in the US recently dropped 200LX prices=
 some
folk thought that it signalled the end of the line for the 200LX (and
maybe some still do but I wouldn't wager on that yet <g>). Now that=
 WinCE
prices are also dropping what can we deduce from this...? Apart from=
 keen
competition lower prices are sometimes prompted by slumping sales -=
 no?

Maybe the bottom line hasn't been looking as good as expected. Is there
trouble in paradise already? <g> As I recall 200LX prices stood their
ground for more than 2-1/2 years...!

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On 1997-08-01 malkajef@orthohelp.com said to rthomson@acp.memec.com
 >->The File export function which copies items to the HP PIMs works
 >OK on ->my setup and I have my files in C:\_dat and project 200 on
 >the A drive. ->I does take a while for the transfer to happen
 >though. ->R
 >>What exactly do you do for it to occur?  Maybe I am missing a step.
 Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
 >--

I have tried it from both the detail and summary screens and it works fine
and with Buddy loaded and not loaded in case there was a conflict with
buddys own link functions and all configurations work in the same way.

Highlight the item you wish to export do not enter the item just enter
{Menu} t , for the export function abd highlight where you want the info to
go todo aor appt seem to be the most useful then hit {enter} a few seconds
later you are back to project 200 and you can check with the appt mgr
whether the inf o is there, it will be inserted at the date the item was set
to commence.

Hope this helps

R



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I disagree.  I believe WinCE is doomed.  It falls between the HP200LX on
one hand and Toshiba's Libretto on the other.  The 200LX's true
competition will be the libretto and I think there isw room enough for
both.  WinCE prices are dropping because it is a product without much of
a market.

On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Francois-Xavier Albouy wrote:

> >Hi all
> >  Compaq had dropped WinCE prices today.  Expect others to do the same.
> >
> >Vivek
> WHY???????????????????
> Remember you are a 200lx user and so are we. According to me dropping
> price of WinCE will only make you (200lx users) disappear. So I will be
> alone with the only dos based Palmtop and I won't have enough new progs
> to have fun. 8-).
>
> ----------------------
> Francois-Xavier Albouy
> EPF (France)
> ETS (Canada)
>
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I agree with Barry (that WinCE is doomed). It's like IBM PCJr, remember it?
Neither small nor a real machine.

I use HP because it is small AND is a real computer. However, I can't say
that working in DOS is so exciting, or that constantly synchronizing
databases is such fun. Programming is interesting, but I am not a
programmer. I need a tool. The moment there is fully functional Win95
computer, with lots of memory and storage, soundcard, etc, but the size of
LX200, I'm getting it. That moment is still a few months away, though.

Mikhail

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> Date: August 2, 1997 10:08 AM
>
> I disagree.  I believe WinCE is doomed.  It falls between the HP200LX on
> one hand and Toshiba's Libretto on the other.  The 200LX's true
> competition will be the libretto and I think there isw room enough for
> both.  WinCE prices are dropping because it is a product without much of
> a market.
>

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Hi everyone,
  I'm still fairly new at using the 200lx (got a 4 meg model in feb.)
but I have found it invaluable already (beats the hell out of the
Franklin planner I had). I had some questions I thought some of you
oldtimers (ouch! don't take that literally) might be able to answer or
shed some light on.
   I need to use a database application (in paradox) which will require
me to use a memory card. Has anyone use majicram cards ?  How do they
perform ? I put together a database/application/speadsheet in Lotus on
the hp to do what I wanted, but it was really slooooow to load, It
killed me to watch.  Will a database on a memory card be quicker ? Such
as Paradox ? Also I hear a lot about access times on these cards. Am I
going to cringe with the speed when I get one.  I hate to invest several
hundred dollars in a card and feel like I don't have what I wanted. I
guess extra memory for Lotus is out due to it being in rom and the way
hp has it set up. I would also like to put a generic cadd program on the
card, but kinda wonder about screen writes on the hp200lx. Anything you
guys (or gals) could tell me would help. I know it would be old news for
some of you that has used the unit a while, but I plan on having mine a
long time. I also wonder about the speed upgrades, can you really tell a
significant difference ?
  On a different note (this probably isn't the right place, but people
that use hp tend to have hps), I have buddy that uses a 41cx and wants a
replacement (I can't get him to got to the 48 like the rest of the
world) If anybody knows where he could still find one (in like new
cond.) I would appreciate the info. Thanks in advance for your help. And
BTW, I check this list everyday, I really appreciate the info that gets
passed along. I am constantly amazed at what some of you can milk out of
this machine. Later

                 Terry "Doc" Livingston

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As an HP200 user, (and a laptop and a desktop..) I think we all choose what
tools work for us, and then look for affirmation of our wise decisions from
others that choose the same thing.

If I drive a station wagon and you drive a Corvette, we make think the
other is nuts, but each mode of transportation serves the purpose for which
it is chosen.

I believe it is the same with Wince, Zaurus, HP, Psion, Libretto... etc.
As strange as it may sound, one of the major decision points for the HP200
for me was the ability to use the cc:Mail.  I have since learned a lot of
other advantages to the 200 but had a Wince unit been able to have a better
interface into my company's cc:Mail, I might be using one of them.  (I also
got it used for $250 which didn't hurt the decision process..)

So, to each their own.. I'm just happy we have a whole list of people that
tell me how intelligent I am each day for choosing the "right" machine.
Guess it is a good thing I don't subscribe to the Wince mailing list where
they would be reaffirming my stupidity daily.

Cheers

Hal

At 10:08 AM 8/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I disagree.  I believe WinCE is doomed.  It falls between the HP200LX on
>one hand and Toshiba's Libretto on the other.  The 200LX's true
>competition will be the libretto and I think there isw room enough for
>both.  WinCE prices are dropping because it is a product without much of
>a market.
>

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Hi Terry

Welcome to the group.

As to the database question - have you looked at something like PC-File.
 It worked on XT's pretty well - it is a flatfile database (shareware).
 Version 5 is probably the most useable on the palmtop -later versions were
larger/more complicated.

I have a lot of different database programs, but I still use the built in
database for all of my service business records.

As to old HP stuff - including 41CX calculators - have your friend look at
the MOHPC (Museum Of HP Calculators) want ad page.

http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/ads/ads.htm

Good luck

Mike
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From:   Terry Livingston
Sent:   Saturday, August 02, 1997 1:50 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Misc. info needed

Hi everyone,
  I'm still fairly new at using the 200lx (got a 4 meg model in feb.)
but I have found it invaluable already (beats the hell out of the
Franklin planner I had). I had some questions I thought some of you
oldtimers (ouch! don't take that literally) might be able to answer or
shed some light on.
   I need to use a database application (in paradox) which will require
me to use a memory card. Has anyone use majicram cards ?  How do they
perform ? I put together a database/application/speadsheet in Lotus on
the hp to do what I wanted, but it was really slooooow to load, It
killed me to watch.  Will a database on a memory card be quicker ? Such
as Paradox ? Also I hear a lot about access times on these cards. Am I
going to cringe with the speed when I get one.  I hate to invest several
hundred dollars in a card and feel like I don't have what I wanted. I
guess extra memory for Lotus is out due to it being in rom and the way
hp has it set up. I would also like to put a generic cadd program on the
card, but kinda wonder about screen writes on the hp200lx. Anything you
guys (or gals) could tell me would help. I know it would be old news for
some of you that has used the unit a while, but I plan on having mine a
long time. I also wonder about the speed upgrades, can you really tell a
significant difference ?
  On a different note (this probably isn't the right place, but people
that use hp tend to have hps), I have buddy that uses a 41cx and wants a
replacement (I can't get him to got to the 48 like the rest of the
world) If anybody knows where he could still find one (in like new
cond.) I would appreciate the info. Thanks in advance for your help. And
BTW, I check this list everyday, I really appreciate the info that gets
passed along. I am constantly amazed at what some of you can milk out of
this machine. Later

                 Terry "Doc" Livingston

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Please delete me from the mailing list at this time.

Lou Schneeberger

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      oops!!
Comments: cc: mack@times2tech.com

I found this exchange from the aol pda forum amusing, and thought others
might, as well.

=================

Subj:  Re:OOPS!!!  HELP

Dropped my 200LX in the toilet (NO kidding!)  For a while, got blue screen,
then it dried and seemed to work.  However, when I tried to change the
batteries, it went DEAD, except for a high-pitched endless sound.  Screen is
blank...Ctrl+alt+del does nothing...nor does trying new batteries.  Support
line is closed....WHAT do I do??  (Can't live without the ole palmtop!

Thanks!

PDA Reply:  Try a hard reboot. Press the left SHIFT key, CTRL, and ON at the
same time. Answer "N" to the question about reinitializing RAM disk.  If that
fails, let it dry thoroughly and it may recover.

Original Poster, next day:

Thanks---it WORKED!!!

================

i wonder how many other systems could have lived through that!

lynn m. cavendish

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Hi all,
        I'm using the HP200LX's database to do a lot of data entry.  I need to
look at this data sorted certain ways, so I've created subsets (i.e.
"reports") that display the data the way I want it to appear.  There
doesn't seem to be a way, though, to sum up the numeric fields into either
sub-totals or grand totals.  Now, I realize that I'm really asking for a
good report writer for the database!  Has anyone come across one???

Thanks,
Harris

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hi
what the heck is a toshiba libretto and where in the net can i see it
thank you all

___________________________________________
a R t u R o   G a L i N d O  gOdInEz

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On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Michael R. Melancon wrote:
> I have a lot of different database programs, but I still use the built in
> database for all of my service business records.
>

Aside from the DBV program on SUPER, how do you deal with the slowness of
the program?   I have not felt encouraged to use it much because of that,
even though I love the ease with which you can develop databases on it.

Domingo

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Harris Paltrowitz <upstate@PIPELINE.COM> wrote:

> There doesn't seem to be a way, though, to sum up the numeric fields
> into either sub-totals or grand totals.

Try Harry Konstas' DBVIEW or DBCALC. DBVIEW is available at the SUPER
site:   http;//www.palmtop.net/super.html

I think DBCALC is at the eddie site:
ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/NEW/

DBVIEW is a database viewer that includes a calculator for the numeric
fields. DBCALC is just the database calculator.

Hope this helps.
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Subject:      Re: Misc. info needed

Domingo

My business provides used car cosmetic repairs for auto dealers.  I use a
separate file for each of my dealers.  Each vehicle is a record - fields
for info I want to keep track of.  I use check boxes to track the steps
through my system. I have check boxes for -done- invoiced- paid- reported-
and sold.  I setup subsets of "all vehicles" - "not done" - "done/not
invoiced"- "invoiced/not paid"- and"paid/not reported".

As I process vehicles they move from one subset to another - when I check
"done" it moves from the "not done" subset to the "done/ not invoiced"
subset and so on.   So I work with subsets and go down the list in each to
"do" "invoice" "get paid" "report" "mark sold".  When the unit is sold I
don't need to track it any longer - so I can delete it then if I need the
room.

The speed has been fine for me.  There are only a few hundred records in
each file - searches (don't include  notefields in the search) don't keep
me waiting long.  Most of my use involves switching between subsets - this
is quick enough too.

I can see if you had a much larger number of records - or do searches on
note fields you could grow old waiting for the search to run

Mike

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On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Michael R. Melancon wrote:
> I have a lot of different database programs, but I still use the built in
> database for all of my service business records.
>

Aside from the DBV program on SUPER, how do you deal with the slowness of
the program?   I have not felt encouraged to use it much because of that,
even though I love the ease with which you can develop databases on it.

Domingo

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"Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET> wrote:

>I have a lot of different database programs,
>but I still use the built in
>database for all of my service business records.

I am very happy with the built in database, too. My favorite DOS-based DBMS
is zoomracks, which is a little clunky on my 200 but works. My problem is in
sharing the DB info with my laptop. Zoomracks won't import GDB files that
have long notes. Zoomrack's greatest weakness is handling long input lines.

So...

I'm looking for a small DOS-based DBMS that will import GDB files after
they've been comma delimited through Steven Roth's gdbdump.exe. Gdbdump
handles the long notes very well, but I haven't found a program that will
import them.

I downloaded 19 different database progs from simtel today which I will
begin trying out tomorrow. Do you know of such a DBMS? I don't need frills.
I mostly want good browse-ability and a subset-like function. Small is
always a plus.
Is PC-File available over the NET? I couldn't find it at Walnut Creek
Simtel. I'm betting it's not small, but I'd like to check it out.
Thanx
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San Jose, Costa Rica        http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7839

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 "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> wrote:

>I found this exchange from the aol pda forum amusing, and thought others
>might, as well.

>>Dropped my 200LX in the toilet (NO kidding!)...

>PDA Reply:  Try a hard reboot...

>Original Poster, next day:

>>Thanks---it WORKED!!!

i wonder how many other systems could have lived through that!

Lynn, What other computer do you regularly take to the bathroom with you
because you can't imagine the anxiety of being without it? Does the warranty
include a hemorrhoid clause?

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pjt2.exm
What an amazing package stuffed into 42K!!! But does it work???

Sorry, I couldn't find the original posting, but I don't remember it dealing
with the following questions:

Does the "point" function do any more than display the date?

Can anyone exlain the Dat/Sum option and the cost/date feature. The second
seems obvious but I'm curious why a Japanese speaker would choose the word
"date" over "day." And the first leads me to believe that re-calculating is
an option.

Under the options menu I can change what seems to be a template for primary
and secondary holidays. Is there a difference between choosing "init" and
"OK"? And are holidays chosen at the "summary" level merely initializers for
the "details" level where they seem cusomizeable?

In the diagram function, is there any difference between choosing "close"
"cancel" and "OK"?

Where does the HELP key really take me? I seem to be in a blank file. Most
of the features seem to work normally, but the "detail"-"summary" function
key is changed to read "return".

Is there a "re-calc" function? If I set up a schedule in chronological order
everything works fine. But as soon as I add something in the middle, or even
change the required time for one of the "details," carefully defined
dependent steps of my project (using "fix" on a few of these, including the
last one) are out of order. Some "details" shoot out of the boundaries I've
set up on the summary level. Some available days are not even used. I know I
must be missing something here.

On a similar note, is there a reverse action for the "Minimum" feature? As
far as I can tell it shrinks each "detail" down to one day and makes me work
on holidays. This is the closest I've come to finding a "re-calc".

Thanks for any input.
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Subject:      Re: Notes field import/export
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I used to run Revelation G2B on my LX - beats the heck out of any
toy database, it's a real developer's package, procedural language
not unlike PERL, query language less cryptic than sql, and the best part
is that  fields are variable length, white space is eliminted, you can
define multi-valued fields (child one, child2, etc.), you can do full
relational stuff between files (customer, invoices) and it actually runs
pretty well on the '186.  Prob'ly a meg of program.....

/mark

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At 05:21 PM 8/2/97 -0400, Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:
Ý...¨
>Dropped my 200LX in the toilet (NO kidding!) Ý...¨WHAT do I do??  (Can't
 live without the ole palmtop!
>Ý...¨, next day:  Thanks---it WORKED!!!
>
>i wonder how many other systems could have lived through that!
>
>lynn m. cavendish

Can you top this?... I was running my new Garmin  II+ GPS into a
mapping program (APRS) on my old 100LX on a sailboat on a lake
in the California Sierras 2 days ago. Well, I flipped the boat while
fiddling with the electronics. The Garmin & HPLX were submerged
for about 3 minutes and then sat, wet, for another 30 minutes till
I got back to the cabin and my wife's hair dryer.

Result: The Garmin, advertised as water resistant, kept on ticking,
though it did lose satellite lock while it was under water, and
then reacquired in a minute after coming up for air. The batteries
didn't even short out while wet.

The HP100LX was flat dead. I blew it dry, removed the batteries
and backup battery, let it sit for a day, and yesterday afternoon
( ~ 24hrs) it started up like brand new. Since I had just backed up
to a flash card, I didn't even lose any data.

Bob Kirk

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Jorj is a good dictionary with definitions!

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > Hello to everyone!
> >
> > Does anyone know of a dictionary that has meanings with it (as opposed to
> > a spelling dictionary). Though I guess it would require a pretty big database
>
> A while back Surplus Software had a package called "The Writer's Toolkit" which includes a
> whole suite of software, including the American Heritage Dictionary, Roget's II Thesaurus,
> Concise Columbia Dictionary of Quotations, Abbreviation Expander, The Written Word III,
> Dictionary of Common Knowledge, and CorrecText Grammar and Style Checker, all in a pop-up
> TSR.  It's a little large for  the 200LX, but you do have the option of just installing
> particular modules.  I've got the Dictionary and Thesaurus installed into 3MB of space on
> a flash card (the dictionary itself takes up 1.9MB, and there are some index files as
> well).  The TSR takes up 10K of memory, but it doesn't work well with the System Manager,
> so it is best to use it in a separate Software Carousel session.  It is a pretty nice
> program-- I'm not sure how many definitions it has, but it seems fairly complete.  Anyway,
> check around and some surplus places might still have it.
>
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Date:         Sun, 3 Aug 1997 14:35:53 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Dictionary with meanings?

who and where is surplus software?

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Hi,
        I just downloaded CLOSEFLR (or CLSFLR), installed it, ran it, but it's not
working!  I followed the instructions about running it after closing App
Manager, and about closing Filer through System Manager.  But when I press
F6 to close Filer, it just beeps at me!
        Any suggestions?  By the way, I just did some searching in the mailing
list archives and had a real hard time with it!  I did a search on CLSFLR,
and found some matches, but then it indexed a whole bunch of other e-mails
on other topics.

Thanks,
Harris

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From:         Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
Subject:      Libretto
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Arturo Galindo writes:
>what the heck is a toshiba libretto and where in the net can i see it

The Libretto is a line of sub-notebook computers.  The 50CT has a
75MHz Pentium with 16M of RAM expandable to 32M.  The US model comes with a
772M hard disk, the Japanese model has a 810M disk.  The two versions
have slightly different keyboards.  640x480 color TFT active matrix
display, built-in Sound-Blaster-compatible sound system, and a almost
full-size keyboard.  One PCMCIA slot, optional external floppy and CD.  About
half the size of a typical notebook machine, still  a LOT bigger than the
200LX.  Comes with Windows95 installed, people have successfully
installed WindowsNT and/or Linux on them.  You can get full details at
www.toshiba.com.  Just search for "Libretto".

We have one, my wife uses it for some of her stuff.  I find the
battery life to be poor (they claim 3-4 hours).  And the batteries will drain
if you leave it plugged in and turned on for a whole day.  Because it's
Win95, it's not the fastest booting machine in the world.  And you can't
turn it off by hitting the power switch.  You have to shut down Win95,
telling it to shut down.  It will then power itself off.

It is small, fitting nicely in a briefcase or a large purse.  But
because of its boot-up and shutdown processes, you don't want to use it just
to look up a phone number.  What a shame, since we got the one with
some nice PIM software, in addition to Word and Excel (all in Japanese).

Simply stated, it is just a small notebook machine, used the same way.
 Unlike our palmtops (and I hate to admit it, the WinCE machines),
which are ready as soon as you press the "ON" key.

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

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http://www.surplusdirect.com
John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
JohnStafford@bigfoot.com

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Subject:      Re: Misc. info needed

Text of message from: "docliv@tima.com"@KIVA.NET,
             written: on Sat, 2 Aug 1997 at 12:21 PM
>Ý...¨
> me to use a memory card. Has anyone use majicram cards ?  How do they
> perform ? I put together a database/application/speadsheet in Lotus on
> the hp to do what I wanted, but it was really slooooow to load, It
> killed me to watch.  Will a database on a memory card be quicker ? Such
> as Paradox ? Also I hear a lot about access times on these cards. Am I
> going to cringe with the speed when I get one.  I hate to invest several
> hundred dollars in a card and feel like I don't have what I wanted. I
> guess extra memory for Lotus is out due to it being in rom and the way
> hp has it set up. I would also like to put a generic cadd program on the
> card, but kinda wonder about screen writes on the hp200lx. Anything you
> guys (or gals) could tell me would help. I know it would be old news for
> some of you that has used the unit a while, but I plan on having mine a
> long time. I also wonder about the speed upgrades, can you really tell a
> significant difference ?

I just bought a Magic Ram 40 meg card (which is SanDisk-made) and have
been very happy.  Access will always be slower from flash than from the
ram drive (c:) and slower than access to all modern hard disks for desktop
computers.

Nonetheless, I don't find it bad at all.  I often work in the Notebook
application and now store this on a: instead of c: (which freed up some of
c:).

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Text of message from upstate@PIPELINE.COM, 2 Aug 1997, 07:40 PM
> Hi all,
>         I'm using the HP200LX's database to do a lot of data entry.  I
>         need to
> look at this data sorted certain ways, so I've created subsets (i.e.
> "reports") that display the data the way I want it to appear.  There
> doesn't seem to be a way, though, to sum up the numeric fields into
> either sub-totals or grand totals.  Now, I realize that I'm really
> asking for a good report writer for the database!  Has anyone come
> across one???

Two answers:

1) Some limited totalling in DBView, a must-have utility for viewing GDB
and NDB files from DOS (find it on SUPER).

2) Export using GDBIO and suck into anything from Excel to Paradox.

Good luck.

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I have a HP Dictionary/Thesaurus card (HP F1005A) that I would to trade for
a 2MB, 4MD SRAM or a  2MB, 4MD ATA flash card.

The HP is based on: The American Heritage Dictionary and Roget's : The New
Thesaurus.
Forget about the rest get the best its HP.

Looking forward to your reply,

Qman

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Running the Connectivity Pack from DOS has never been a problem, but from
Windows 3.1 I keep getting the message "CPACK100 TSR is already loaded.
APP100 cannot be run."  I've checked everything I can think of in the
APP100.PIF, including restoring the original from the installation
diskette.  I've checked the files= and buffer= settings in config.sys as
well.  I have TRANSFILE WIN 200 and like it for most things, but there are
some that I find easier with the Connectivity Pack.

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Harris Paltrowitz <upstate@PIPELINE.COM> wrote:

> I followed the instructions about running it after closing App
> Manager, and about closing Filer through System Manager.  But when=
 I
> press F6 to close Filer, it just beeps at me!

The problem is that FILER needs to be open when you press F6 to close.=

Just open filer, then press Ý&...¨(More) to open AppMgr, THEN press=
 F6
to close FILER. That should work.

PR
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I am pleased to announce the first public beta of "LXFileman", a Tcl/Tk
graphical file manager for manipulating HP 200lx files from a Linux/UNIX
workstation.

LXFileman requires a Tcl/Tk installation, including the X11 application
"wish". It was developed on a RedHat Linux/Intel system using Tcl/Tk
4.2/7.6.

LXFileman is merely a front end to Andreas Garzotto's *excellent*
LXTOOLS package. It will not work with the latest official LXTOOLS
release, but includes modified LXTOOLS source so you can build your own
binaries.

While LXFileman is designated "beta" level software, it functions very
well for me and seems quite stable. Please give it a try and let me know
how it works for you -- if I don't get any bug reports, it will never
get past "beta"!

You can get the whole package from the S.U.P.E.R. site,
   http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

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At 10:00 PM 8/3/97 -0400, you wrote:

>The problem is that FILER needs to be open when you press F6 to close.
>Just open filer, then press Ý&...¨(More) to open AppMgr, THEN press F6
>to close FILER. That should work.
>PR
>Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org

        It did!  Filer now closes beautifully.  Thanks very much!

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Hi,
does anyone know something about tamagotchi for hp-palmtops?
Dieter

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Dear All,

Anybody got any ideas about my problem.  I am 99% sure that the cards were
working.  I do have one card that works.

Also, does an Ace 10meg Flash disk require a specific driver in to order to
access the 10meg rather than only 5meg.

Cheers,
P. Craig Davis
PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country.


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Subject:        Formatting SRAM on A:

I left my batteries out of my SRAM cards as was suggested.  I was able to
format one of my three cards.   The other two did this:

Formatting 2.04M
Format complete.

General failure reding drive A
Abort, Retry, Fail?

Have I done something wrong?  I would hate to have two cards that have given
up the ghost.

P. Craig Davis
PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country.

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Folks,

A good friend of mine has worked for HP for many years.  He is an avid 200
user.  His advice is that the 200 is gone BUT since there are still many units
in stock HP will continue to "support and sell" them.  He expects them to
disappear as soon as inventories are gone.  Not fact, just credible hearsay.

Ed in Houston

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Hi everybody,

I have experienced some strange things with my 200LX since I started using a
PCMCIA modem.

When I put my USRobotics 28.8 modem in the slot the powerbar in Setup
immediately drops to zero and stays there for as long as I use the modem. I do
not get the MAIN BATT LOW message, and when the modem is removed the powerbar
returns to normal. Setup also tells me that the Card Battery is OK. Does this
mean that the PCMCIA modem has its own battery? None of these things happens
when I use my ethernet card. I use alkaline batteries.

Are these things normal, or should I have my 200LX checked?

Best regards

Anders Nygaard

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>What, the event or the user?  :)
>
>i wonder how many other systems could have lived through that!
>
>lynn m. cavendish
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              <9708041251.AA2658@notes2.compuserve.com>

Anders Nygaard wrote:

> When I put my USRobotics 28.8 modem in the slot the powerbar in Setup
> immediately drops to zero and stays there for as long as I use the
> modem. I do not get the MAIN BATT LOW message, and when the modem is
> removed the powerbar returns to normal. Setup also tells me that the
> Card Battery is OK. Does this mean that the PCMCIA modem has its own
> battery? None of these things happens when I use my ethernet card. I
> use alkaline batteries.

1. To my knowledge, every USR 28.8 card ever made exceeds the 200LX's
   150mA limit on card slot current.  You're lucky the LX works at all
   with that card in place.

2. You should never insert a PC Card in the 200LX with the power on.
   There is a warning about this on page 1-7 of the user's guide, with a
   vague warning about potential data loss.  From what I've been able
   to piece together, this is an electrical limitation that can result
   in malfunction due to disturbances in the power supply and data
   bus.

3. I recently discovered a posting to comp.sys.palmtops, via Deja News,
   that explained that the two pins that are used for card battery
   status in memory cards are used for other purposes in I/O cards, and
   that the 200LX doesn't manage this intelligently.  Another posting
   (by Tom Gibson) from the same thread noted that the "card battery
   low" message appears when using the Silicom ethernet card, which is
   a low-power card that is known to work with the 200LX.  The bottom
   line is that card battery status information for an I/O card is
   often bogus, and apparently harmless.

                                -Jim.

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I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
satisfied.

Jim Smith

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>From: Jim Smith   I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased
Times2
>Techspeed upgrade.
Jim,
I have the 8 mg upgrgade and the speed chip.  No problems at all.  I really
enjoy having the ability to store all the programs I normally use on the
C:\drive.  I use diet and this gives me plenty of space.  I don't use buddy
nor do I use (yet) emm. I can't report on those programs.  the programs I
use most are:
wwwlx
PalEdit
Post/LX
Qfax (I like this better than MiniFax because I can use a logo and signature
on the fax)
MSMail remote (connect to office email system)
RLink (connect to the office server)
Intellilink
HP Connectivity Pack
LxPic
Two Dos based statistical packages (SimStat & Stats)
My comm programs are on my Thinfax modem card.

all perform well with my new setup.
regards
Ron

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Jim Smith wrote:
>
> I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
> Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
> are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
> website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
> again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
> satisfied.
>
> Jim Smith
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Hi Jim,
   I have the speed and RAM upgrades. I installed them myself as
it sounds like you are going to. The crystal was not too hard
if you have soldered before.
   Once installed you HAVE to have the driver from Times2 installed
all the time or the screen is funny. Just make a backup
copy on a flash ram card in case you loose your C: drive on the
HP while you are on a trip or something. If you don't have a
flash card, I can't recommend the upgrade for that reason.
   Otherwise, the speed upgrade is great. Everything that I've tried
works fine. I have used comm programs with an internal modem just
fine; I have not tried the serial port at all but it is supposed to
be OK with the driver in place. The extra speed is nice,
"speed200" shows the system as the same as a 6MHz AT. (varies
with screen mode).  I suppose that there are some real old arcade
games made for the old XT only that might be too fast.
  Hope this helps
-Bryan

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Got this in the mail today.  Any other unixheads out there might be
interested.

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DK KD   Heisenberg slept here, or somewhere else nearby.
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Date/ Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:12:49 -0400
From/ Red Hat Linux User <peterw@CLARK.NET>
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To/ HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject/ Announcing LXFileman, a UNIX/Tk file manager

I am pleased to announce the first public beta of "LXFileman", a Tcl/Tk
graphical file manager for manipulating HP 200lx files from a Linux/UNIX
workstation.

LXFileman requires a Tcl/Tk installation, including the X11 application
"wish". It was developed on a RedHat Linux/Intel system using Tcl/Tk
4.2/7.6.

LXFileman is merely a front end to Andreas Garzotto's *excellent*
LXTOOLS package. It will not work with the latest official LXTOOLS
release, but includes modified LXTOOLS source so you can build your=
 own
binaries.

While LXFileman is designated "beta" level software, it functions very
well for me and seems quite stable. Please give it a try and let me=
 know
how it works for you -- if I don't get any bug reports, it will never
get past "beta"!

You can get the whole package from the S.U.P.E.R. site,
   http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

-Peter

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>Got this in the mail today.  Any other unixheads out there might be
>interested.

I think Peter posted the announcement to this list before sticking it over
on USENET. I guess I was the only beta tester and I've got to admit that I
was impressed with how quickly it came together. I'm using it under Linux at
115200 IR through a Jeteye and it works great. Now the program really needs
a nice 48x48 pel XPM for all of us X Window dudes (all two of us...).

Mitch

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The PCMCIA is working well on my Toshiba note, too.
But, why doesn4t it work on my "another brain"(?) that is hp palmtop?

What is the qlogic?  It4s like Adaptec or Future Domain?

Regards...:-)

Pablo Hyun KIM
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> Actually, I used the card and cdrom drive just fine on my Compaq
> Aero.  It is indeed SCSI, actually, it is a qlogic scsi interface.  I
> had the card on a toshiba laptop running linux, it had pcmcia drivers,
> and the qlogic driver, and I was able to connect up to SCSI hard
> drives as well.
>
>
> Doug
>
>  >
>  > Regards.
>  >
>  > Pablo Hyun KIM
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Hello;

I got both the memory upgrade and the speed upgrade about 1 month ago. Both
work fine. as far as I can tell, there are no "real" programs that are
incompatible with it. Perhaps you would have a problem with games; I do tknow
that the driver has a hot key sequence to toggle bettween fast and an
artificial "slow" mode. Should a program that you have mess around with some of
the timer interrupts, you may also experience problems with that. However, I'm
not sure exactly how the driver works, so I can6t say for certain.

Programs that I have tried:
Buddy  4Dos  DosPPP05  TrumpetTCP  CUTCP Telnet  Wattcp Utilities  HV
C.Cameron's Card Games  All of the built in apps

-Ryan

>From: Jim Smith <JIMS@SMITHCHARTER.COM>
>
>I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
>Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
>are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
>website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
>again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
>satisfied.
>
>Jim Smith



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On 2 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

>    I need to use a database application (in paradox) which will require
> me to use a memory card. Has anyone use majicram cards ?  How do they
> perform ? I put together a database/application/speadsheet in Lotus=
 on
> the hp to do what I wanted, but it was really slooooow to load, It
> killed me to watch.  Will a database on a memory card be quicker ?=
 Such
> as Paradox ? Also I hear a lot about access times on these cards.=
 Am I
> going to cringe with the speed when I get one. <snip>

Terry, if you require a speedy card then I suggest you go for one of=
 the
Sandisk models. I have recently setup some programs for a colleague=
 of
mine on an 8Mb Sandisk and I can tell you that this thing screams! It=
 is
the fastest ATA flash that I have come across and will outrun almost
anything other than the built-in C: drive... :-) For some operations=
 I
could scarcely see a difference, ie: swapping MaxDos to C: or A: produced
almost no discernible difference! These cards have traditionally been
quite expensive but the prices (from NSW) are very competitive now.

I suggest you have a look at these cards before making your final
decision.

> I would also like to put a generic cadd program on the
> card, but kinda wonder about screen writes on the hp200lx. Anything=
 you
> guys (or gals) could tell me would help. <snip>

There are two excellent full-featured CAD programs that are available
AFAIK and one smaller 'Drawing' program. Of the two CAD progs 'Draft
Choice for the 200LX' is my favourite. I tried it several months ago=
 and
found it to run very well indeed with reasonable speed. Took if off=
 my
drive only because I had no real use for it at the time plus it ate=
 about
1.5Mb as I recall. This program is available on
www.palmtop.net/super.html

I cannot remember the name of the other CAD program but the drawing=
 program
is called PalDraw. Not really a CAD program but is very useful and it=
 also
has the look and feel of the built-in applications. Can also export=
 its
native files to a standard dxf file format. Sorry I don't have the URL=
 but
I believe it can be found on Ariel Rocholl's palmtop site maybe someone=
 can
help with the URL.

> I also wonder about the speed upgrades, can you really tell a
> significant difference ?

An excellent choice! I haven't had my machine clock-doubled as yet but
shall very soon! I understand that it makes the 200LX sing like a lark...
:-)

Regards,


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Hi all,

one of my good friends did the Times2Tech RAM and speed Upgrade on
his 200 some time ago and he still have some strange problems :

- can't use the full capacity of his 80Mb ACE flash card because
the driver used to compress data doesn't work with the upgrade, he
can use 40 Mb.

- can't use neither his accurite "travel floppy" nor his accurite
"double slot" again because  the driver doesn't works since the
upgrade...

ANY help welcome ...

Matt.

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>- can't use neither his accurite "travel floppy" nor his accurite
>"double slot" again because  the driver doesn't works since the
>upgrade...

There is a file on the SUPER Site called ds_pat.zip that is a beta version
of a patch to make the Accurite work with double speed machines. Go to:

http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

and search for slot.

Mitch

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I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER THAN LOWERS.
WHERE CAN YOU LOCATE GDBDUMP.EXE BY STEVEN ROTH?
73 SPENCE, K4KEP

Casa de Luz wrote:
>
> "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET> wrote:
SNIP
> I'm looking for a small DOS-based DBMS that will import GDB files after
> they've been comma delimited through Steven Roth's gdbdump.exe. Gdbdump
> handles the long notes very well, but I haven't found a program that will
> import them.
>
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Hi,

Does anyone have a schematic / wiring diagram for a link lead???

I am trying not to pay =A330+ uk pounds for a piece of wire!!



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Hello everyone,
I have been trying to look for a "calculated field" in the built-in
database of 200LX. However, it seems to me the database does not provide
such type of field. Is there a way to define a calculated field there?.
Thanks in advance.

Regards.

dxhendra@usa.net

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Gang

Got a new/used Megahertz XJ1144 from one on the list.  (Smiles)
Powered down the HP100LX like a good user.
Inserted the modem and hit the on button. . . and hit the on button . . . and
hit the on button.
Nada.  Zip. (Frowns)
Said to self, "Self, we have a problem."
Removed said modem card. Hit the on button.
Zip.  Dead as a hammer.  (Minor panic)
Removed all batteries and did a brain dead cold start.  Got it back OK.
(Great sigh of relief).
Modem checks out fine in the big notebook.

What's the deal here?  Anybody been there before?  The XJ1144 is supposed to
be within the 150 ma. limit.

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        Je suis etudiant francais parti pour 1 an au canada. Je voudrais savoir
si le "4 MB memory upgrade" est disponible en france est si oui a quel
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Comments: cc: mack@times2tech.UCONN.EDU

Jim Smith wrote:

..I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
..Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
..are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
..website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
..again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
..satisfied.

my experence with time2tech has been 100% good.  i have both the memory and
the speed upgrade.  i have had no stability problems.  the speed upgrade
makes everything more civilized.  the speed increase is VERY noticable.  i
would not consider having an x00LX, and not having the upgrade done, if i
could afford it.

i spent a lot of time searching the net for opinions before i took a chance
with my system, and have yet to hear a negative comment.

my advice:  get the speed upgrade.

lynn m. cavendish

(i have nothing to do with mack, or with times2tech.  i'm just a satisfied
customer.)

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In a message dated 97-08-04 18:24:16 EDT, you write:

<<
         Je suis etudiant francais parti pour 1 an au canada. Je voudrais
savoir
 si le "4 MB memory upgrade" est disponible en france est si oui a quel
 prix.
  >>
wt-whay id-day e-hay a-say?? it-ay is-ay all-ay atin-lay oo-tay e-may!!

ordially-cay,

nn-lay m-ay avendish-cay

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I think there are no comparison that can be made between an organizer
(like Windows CE machines or the HPLX) and a mini notebook like the
libretto or the IBM PC110 because the battery life and access time is
dramatically different !!!

It takes hardly no time to gain access to pieces of info in an
organizer... whereas it usually takes relatively long on a notebook
(under normal circumstances like when you don't have your notebook
plugged in all the time (the resume mode is quite fast...)

Of course the processing speed is very different... Nobody can argue
here ! BUT, one of the most important issue in a portable device is its
battery life: imagine the relief of having an autonomy of several weeks
!

The conclusion is that I don't think anybody will succeed (in the
immediate future) in using (to its maximum efficiency)a mini notebook
(whatever its size) like the Libretto as we all use our PDA.

Color screens, fast licro processors and large capacity HD are far too
energy consuming and batteries definitely seem not being able to keep up
with the increase of performance.

Long live to the HPLX and the WinCE machines !

I personnaly stuck to my 100LX which I find more efficient despite its
age; I most appreciate the Dos compatibility and the access to such a
huge library. And I find the built-in apps a lot more comprehensive then
the Win CE's. I guess things will change as more buyers turn towards
WinCE, but in the mean time...

Thanks for listening to me

Bye for now

Jean-Fran=E7ois PICART from Marseilles - France

jfpicart@easynet.fr

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Salut, je suis aussi fran=E7ais, mais habitant =E0 Marseille.

Le mod=E8le 4Mo est dispo en France, mais il est vendu beaucoup plus cher=

qu'aux US. Il est en effet possible de commander la version fran=E7aise d=
u
200LX 4Mo =E0 partir de certains revendeurs aux US.
M'enfin, si tu insistes, je te donnerai les prix pratiqu=E9s par chez
nous...


Voici le mail que j'ai eu en retour d'un de ces magasins:

     price for French version same as American/English versions

      $559. + $68.73 shipping via DHL

         10 to 14 days delivery from date of order


To place order by FAX call  617-438-8307  24 hours 7 days a week

Or call 617-438-8622 and SAFELY leave order and credit card
information 24 hours 7 days a week

Or Mail Order to: Wholesale Products
                  99 F Main Street
                  Suite 291
                  Stoneham, MA 02180
                  USA



Tiens-moi au courant !

Jean-Fran=E7ois PICART

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>          Je suis etudiant francais parti pour 1 an au canada. Je voudrais
> savoir
>  si le "4 MB memory upgrade" est disponible en france est si oui a quel
>  prix.
>   >>
> wt-whay id-day e-hay a-say??

My French is rusty, but he says that he is a French student spending a year in
Canada. He wonders if the 4 MB upgrade is available in France and if so, how
much it costs.

Some folks speak different languages than we do.

Mitch

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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 05 Aug 1997 01:08:04 +0200."
              <33E660D4.4292@easynet.fr>

Jean-Francois PICART wrote:

> To place order by FAX call  617-438-8307  24 hours 7 days a week
>
> Or call 617-438-8622 and SAFELY leave order and credit card
> information 24 hours 7 days a week
>
>
> Or Mail Order to: Wholesale Products
>                   99 F Main Street
>                   Suite 291
>                   Stoneham, MA 02180
>                   USA

FYI, 99 F Main Street is the address of Mailboxes, Etc., a private
mailbox service.  Directory assistance has no listing for "Wholesale
Products", although the phone numbers provided are in an exchange
assigned to Stoneham.  It could be a small business operating out of a
home, a retailer with an alter ego, or a scam.  You decide.  There are
plenty of better-known mail-order sources for the 4MB 200LX, at about
the same price.


                                -Jim.

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I bought a 20Mb flash card from Ace 2 years ago, it's been working fine
so far. The only disappointment was that I often get frustrated having
to wait a few seconds for the card to go through its consistency
verification process each time the unit is turned on... Since I'm a very
heavy user and turn on and off my HP100LX a hundred times per day, I
would like to know if anyone of you has experienced the same snag with
other large capacity Flash cards... Please let me know and I'll order it
straight away !

Thank you for your feedback.

Jean-Francois PICART from Marseilles - France

jfpicart@easynet.fr

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PICART Jean-Fran=E7ois wrote:

> I bought a 20Mb flash card from Ace 2 years ago, it's been working
> fine
> so far. The only disappointment was that I often get frustrated having
>
> to wait a few seconds for the card to go through its consistency
> verification process each time the unit is turned on... Since I'm a
> very
> heavy user and turn on and off my HP100LX a hundred times per day, I
> would like to know if anyone of you has experienced the same snag with
>
> other large capacity Flash cards... Please let me know and I'll order
> it
> straight away !

I had the same thing with an IBM 40mb flash card.  It would usually take
about 1-1.5 seconds for the 200LX to start responding to keystrokes once
I turned it on if the flash card was in.  However, a Verbatim 40mb flash
card was much faster-- virtually indistinguishable from turning it on
without a flash card.  The Microtech ram card I have now takes a brief
pause, less than the IBM, but more than the Verbatim.

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 00:54:17 +0000
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On 1997-08-04 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER THAN LOWERS.
   >WHERE CAN YOU LOCATE GDBDUMP.EXE BY STEVEN ROTH?
   >73 SPENCE, K4KEP

   >> I'm looking for a small DOS-based DBMS that will import GDB files
   >>after  they've been comma delimited through Steven Roth's gdbdump.
   >>exe. Gdbdump  handles the long notes very well, but I haven't
   >>found a program that will  import them.

GDBDUMP (and GDBLOAD) are both extracted from the same GDB102.ZIP file I
mentioned a few days ago (on my other email ID). That zip file as I said,
is found at the Monash FTP site (ftp://ftp.cc.monash.edu.au/pub/palmtop).

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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I shouldn't apologize for using french(:-) I'm joking I know every one
understand english but to be more attractive for french citizen i wrote
in french.) but some of the user of this list didn't understand so here
is the translation:
I'm a french studient in canada for 1 year, I would like to know if the
"4 MB memory upgrade" is available in France(because i'm back soon).


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Greetings to the Mailing List,

It is probably inevitable that something as fundamental as batteries
should periodically fuel discussion, as current messages indicate.
What is not so evident is whether the most important aspect is cost or
convenience, since we cannot have both.  The latter is clearly
uppermost in the mind of David Sargeant on Thursday, 31Jul 1997:-

> Snip
> As soon as we get some decent power technology...how about a nuclear
> battery?  Some kind of decaying radioactive element producing heat
> could power a battery...might not be able to cram that kind of thing
> into a AA package, though.

David may be nearer to the truth than he thinks, but that's another
story for later.  However, of the two ways to greatly reduce or even
eliminate cost, one is immediately achievable.  Crombie Redd has to be
thanked for this idea, which he described elsewhere in
comp.sys.palmtops and also passed on to our Australian group.  I
recently decided to take up his idea and in turn pass on my experience
for the benefit of other power-hungry users.

On 12 Jul 1997, Crombie said to me:-

> By far the cheapest solution is to go to your nearest "fast photo"
> place and ask them if they would give you any of the batteries they
> take out of the disposable cameras.  Most of them are more than
> happy to give you some because it solves one of their problems -
> disposing of them.
> I recommend you get a battery tester, because though 99% of them will
> be fine, you cannot afford to put a dud in your palmtop. I've been
> doing this for ages now, and find I get on average about 35 hours per
> pair or used batteries - that's about 2 weeks for me.
> Snip

I quickly found out that the two nearest photo places in the City
(Adelaide) had already agreed to supply used batteries to someone for
a project (another Palmtopper in Adelaide?).  The nearest Kodak shop
likewise had a regular "customer".  They also said that the throw-away
cameras were recycled.  However, my neighbourhood Kodak place was very
helpful and soon I had a shopping bag a third full batteries!  This is
where convenience, or lack of it, starts to bite into cost, or lack of
it.  The bag had a mixture of battery types, which had to be sorted
out and tested, this taking several hours.  I include a summary of the
results, since some of the non-AA-size batteries could be useful for
other applications. It must also be said that I am not a battery
expert and at that stage did not have a specific tester.

Of a total of 317 individual batteries, there were 110 of the AA 1.5v
types, 14 of these being the ordinary zinc kind, leaving 96 alkalines
(no lithiums) of interest.  Of the remainder, there were 56 3v
lithiums still in double packs and 74 single 3v lithiums, both
representing two different sizes.  Apart from 10 odd small batteries
that I've never seen before, the rest were silver button lithium
batteries in various sizes (18 large, 26 small and 3 narrow but long
(6v?)).  The large size is the same as the back-up battery in the
Palmtops.

I used the disposable tester for AA batteries that comes with some
packs of Duracell alkalines.  It tests batteries under slight load and
allowed the 96 alkalines to be divided up into dud, bordering on
"good" (which I shall call poor), just into "good" and truly "good".
I then compared the groups with a voltmeter having graduations of
0.2v.  The poor group registered around 1.3v, leaving the "good" group
at 1.3-1.4v and the truly "good" group at +1.4v.  I took samples of
the two last-mentioned groups and inserted them into my 100LX.  The
truly good group produced a "full" indication on the Palmtop, whereas
the 1.3-1.4v group were just below full.  This is the only practical
way that was available to make a reasonable assessment.  From past
experience, the truly good group could be used straight away, the
other good group would do better with a boost on a Greencell
regenerator just before use and might give half normal life, possibly
able to take another boost.  In terms of numbers, there were 42 duds,
26 poor, 16 good and 12 truly good.

I have had time to test only some of the other sizes using the meter
and about a third of them would be useable as good to truly good.

What all this seems to mean (and my Kodak dealer may not be typical
regarding turnover of batteries) is that only about a third of the
batteries available are AA cells, none lithium. Of these, only around
a third would be worth re-using immediately; and this figure was
similar in the other groups of batteries, which could, of course, be
used for other purposes.  In summary, about a ninth of what I was able
to get from Kodak was worth immediately putting into my Palmtop.
However, this should keep me going for months.

So there you have it - free batteries!  Hope it helps.  Next time I
shall ask Kodak, if it is not too difficult, to have the AA cells kept
separately.

Happy Palmtopping,

Barry Collins
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Subject:      speed upgrades

list,  i passed on concers which were posted about the compatability of speed
upgrades with other devices to times2tech.  in about an hour i had the
following answer from mack:


>- can't use the full capacity of his 80Mb ACE flash card because
>the driver used to compress data doesn't work with the upgrade, he
>can use 40 Mb.

The person can comment out the ACECARD.COM driver in the config.sys on the
uncompressed portion of the card.  They need to call me and I can get both
problems fixed.

>- can't use neither his accurite "travel floppy" nor his accurite
>"double slot" again because  the driver doesn't works since the
>upgrade...

Accurite has newer drivers that work with my speed upgrade.

Please relay this info for me and have the person who did the upgrades
contact us.

Thanks,
Mack
----------------------------------------------------
Times2 Tech  (Ph. 205-620-1408/Fax 205-620-5205)
email: mack@times2tech.com
  web: http://www.times2tech.com/

The hardest thing to open is a closed mind...
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>PICART Jean-Fran=E7ois wrote:
>
>> I bought a 20Mb flash card from Ace 2 years ago, it's been working
>> fine
>> so far. The only disappointment was that I often get frustrated
having
>>
>> to wait a few seconds for the card to go through its consistency
>> verification process each time the unit is turned on... Since I'm a
>> very
>> heavy user and turn on and off my HP100LX a hundred times per day, I
>> would like to know if anyone of you has experienced the same snag
with
>>
>> other large capacity Flash cards... Please let me know and I'll order
>> it
>> straight away !
>
>I had the same thing with an IBM 40mb flash card.  It would usually
take
>about 1-1.5 seconds for the 200LX to start responding to keystrokes
once
>I turned it on if the flash card was in.  However, a Verbatim 40mb
flash
>card was much faster-- virtually indistinguishable from turning it on
>without a flash card.  The Microtech ram card I have now takes a brief
>pause, less than the IBM, but more than the Verbatim.
>
I've got a 20MB kingston Ata flash card I don't have any problem
may be a little delay but i think it's less than 1 second, so i can
stand it.


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I'm looking for a C compiler that would work on a HP200lx with 1mb of
ram (i have a 20MB flash card). If you have any idea or software (I mean
shareware :-)) to send you are welcome.
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                                thanks


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        This is a follow up to the "expect them to disappear from the market
as soon as the ones currently in stock are sold" post recently.

        Can ANYONE confirm the rumour that HP was going to restart the
production line of HP 200LXs that was "temporarily" closed down to cope with
the expected initial pent up surge in demand for the Win-CE machines?
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> I'm looking for a C compiler that would work on a HP200lx with 1mb of
> ram (i have a 20MB flash card). If you have any idea or software (I mean
> shareware :-)) to send you are welcome.

Turbo C++ ver 1 works well

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Well, my survey results are in, although the turnout was underwhelming
to say the least.  Seven people voted out of the 350 members of this list=
.

But, here's what people say:

Five people who responded to the survey wanted TinyTalk.  (An additional
5-6 asked me about it without responding to the rest of the survey.)

Two people have the SDK. Some had not even heard of such an animal.

Four people are interested in forming a programming group.

Four people use Linux.

One person was interested in researching a PCMCIA-IDE controller.

As far as myself -- I have TTalk 1.09, I don't have the SDK, I'm inter-
ested in forming a programming group (that's why I asked), I use
Linux, and I don't have an IDE controller.

Frankly, I'm disappointed.  Apparently this group has far more mute
people than I thought.  I think this list should be for people with more
than a passing interest in this great machine.  It is too bad that there
are people, in this relatively private realm, who listen in without
actively contributing to the group.  I try to answer questions for people
when they post them to this group; but I would guess 150 people just
don't talk at all, which is sad.

All right, I'll get off my soapbox now.  Hey, I'd like the following peop=
le
to contact me as soon as possible about forming a programming group:
(sorry I lost your email addresses)
        Francois Ennesser
        Rod Whitby
        Vivek Venugopalan
        Jaime Viehweg

c-ya

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
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I'm thinking there's a port of gcc to DOS but I'm not sure.  I am sure,
however, that there is a gcc cross-compiler which runs under Linux
but compiles under DOS.  Don't know if this helps...

BTW, I think there is someplace on the SimTel site which maintains
GNU code compiled for DOS.  I'm not sure but you can check it
out at http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/

Ian Butler
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> ram (i have a 20MB flash card). If you have any idea or software (I mea=
n
> shareware :-)) to send you are welcome.

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Found the GNUish mirror on SimTel.  GNUish btw is a project that maintain=
s
and supports GNU software on DOS systems.  I recommend GNU Chess
and GNU Plot, although you will have one _hell_ of a time finding an ANSI
dirver for Chess.  That's the price of freedom, I suppose...

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> I'm thinking there's a port of gcc to DOS but I'm not sure.  I am sure,
> however, that there is a gcc cross-compiler which runs under Linux
> but compiles under DOS.  Don't know if this helps...

Apparently, gcc only runs under a unix (such as Linux), but not under DOS.
There is the ELK project going, to port Linux to 16bit PCs, but it's not
done yet ... Also, gcc is pretty big and not written with efficiency as
a first concern (though it's very good in other ways), so it might not be
great on the lx, anyway.

BTW if Linux did run on the lx, it would be the first unix palmtop
(I think). But I think getting linux running on the 320lx would really be
something worthwhile. Anybody know of anyone working on it?

Brendan

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From:         Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
Subject:      Re: SCSI PCMCIA Trouble!!!
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sun, 03 Aug 1997 14:10:50 -0300."
              <9708041725.AA00376@movicom.movi.com.ar>

Pablo Hyun KIM <hyunspak@MOVI.COM.AR>

> The PCMCIA is working well on my Toshiba note, too.
> But, why doesn4t it work on my "another brain"(?) that is hp palmtop?

Because, I am concluing, PC Card support on the 200LX was engineered
during the early days of the standard, and never updated.   The
fundamental problem is that most currently-shipping devices ship with
software that expects the host to have Card and Socket Services built
in or installed.  As near as I can tell, the 200LX supports cards
strictly through dedicated drives, called point enablers.  If you can't
find a point enabler for the card, or install Card and Socket Services,
you're out of luck.  SystemSoft, which wrote CIC100, no longer supports
old DOS systems, they told me today.  One Usenet poster last year
reported that Phoenix PCM+ didn't work for him.  That leaves Award and,
perhaps, Intel Card Manager.

> What is the qlogic?  It4s like Adaptec or Future Domain?

QLogic is a hardware manufacturer, headquartered in California.  Their
web site is http://qlogic.qlc.com/.  You'll find reference to their
PCMCIA SCSI adapters under Products->QLA->Retired Products.
They offer a driver package that appears to include a point enabler, for
download.

                                -Jim.

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> <<
>          Je suis etudiant francais parti pour 1 an au canada. Je voudrais=

> savoir
>  si le "4 MB memory upgrade" est disponible en france est si oui a=
 quel
>  prix.
>   >>
> wt-whay id-day e-hay a-say?? it-ay is-ay all-ay atin-lay oo-tay e-may!!
>
> ordially-cay,

He asks whether the memory upgrade is available in France and if yes,=
 how
much it costs.

You may not be aware, but the world does not end at the US border and
there are other languages than English.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Unfortunately, the vast majority of the computer world, and, indeed, the
Internet, speaks English.  One can not expect to speak his native non-
English language on the Internet and be understood by very many people.

English is the standard, and that's that.  If you can speak it, you can =
make
it in this world.  If you can't, you're up shit creek.  It's that simple.

I'm not trying to be hard-headed or cruel, but that's they way it is.  =
I applaud
those few US citizens who can speak multiple languages, and I applaud
non-domestic people who can also speak English.  But you can't expect to
go around blithering in French and be understood by many people, just
like you can't go around Japan and speak English and be understood.

I personally can speak English, with Spanish and have crash-course worth =
of
Latin.  So you know I am not being YA idiot North American in the eyes =
of
foreign (non-US) people.

Ian Butler
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> there are other languages than English.
>
> Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > wt-whay id-day e-hay a-say?? it-ay is-ay all-ay atin-lay oo-tay e-may!!
> >
> > ordially-cay,
>
> He asks whether the memory upgrade is available in France and if yes, how
> much it costs.
>
> You may not be aware, but the world does not end at the US border and
> there are other languages than English.

Sounds like it was a joke to me.  But it seems to have touched a nerve on many people...

What we need, of course, is a plug-in translation module for Post/LX!  We can have modules
for English, Spanish, French, Pig Latin, and whatever other fine languages we HP'ers
decide to use... :)

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From:         "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Notes field import/export

To download PC-File try shareware.com

select DOS as the platform and do a search on pc-file - should turn up 20
files.

There are several versions from PC-File III version 4 through PC-File 6.5

I suggest version 5 - I have a friend who uses it a lot and likes it.
Memo fields can contain 5000 characters
Including the doc file to print out the manual it took about 1.9 meg.

PC-File III version 4 is much older and is pretty small  Zip file is 193K.
pcfile.exe is 44,592 bytes  total in directory is 342,744 including
compressed Docs -  It is simple and not flashy - but LOTS of folks loved it
way back when - and it could still be useful on the palmtops

I'm still sticking to the built in database app -  it works for me.

- good luck!

Mike

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"Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET> wrote:

>I have a lot of different database programs,
>but I still use the built in
>database for all of my service business records.

I am very happy with the built in database, too. My favorite DOS-based DBMS
is zoomracks, which is a little clunky on my 200 but works. My problem is
in
sharing the DB info with my laptop. Zoomracks won't import GDB files that
have long notes. Zoomrack's greatest weakness is handling long input lines.

So...

I'm looking for a small DOS-based DBMS that will import GDB files after
they've been comma delimited through Steven Roth's gdbdump.exe. Gdbdump
handles the long notes very well, but I haven't found a program that will
import them.

I downloaded 19 different database progs from simtel today which I will
begin trying out tomorrow. Do you know of such a DBMS? I don't need frills.
I mostly want good browse-ability and a subset-like function. Small is
always a plus.
Is PC-File available over the NET? I couldn't find it at Walnut Creek
Simtel. I'm betting it's not small, but I'd like to check it out.
Thanx
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Hello All,

I notice that you can not send E-Mail to the list form an E-Mail
account which is not on the HP Recieving list.

I have an E-Mail address with one of those free internet based
forwarding services.  I can have any mail sent to it forwarded to any number of
email addresses, and or stored there for access via the internet,
according to filters.

This allows me to have my E-Mail forwarded to wherever is most
convenient for me at that particular time, ie, when I travel.

Is there any way for me to enter my other E-Mail addresses into the
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> QLogic is a hardware manufacturer, headquartered in California.  Their
> web site is http://qlogic.qlc.com/.  You'll find reference to their
> PCMCIA SCSI adapters under Products->QLA->Retired Products.
> They offer a driver package that appears to include a point enabler, for
> download.

Nearly correct their site is http://www.qlc.com

They no longer sell their PCMCIA products and concentrate on
semiconductors as well as high end PCI host bus adapters for ultra
SCSI and Fibre Channel

R

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At 19:39 4/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>I'm looking for a C compiler that would work on a HP200lx with 1mb of
>ram (i have a 20MB flash card). If you have any idea or software (I mean
>shareware :-)) to send you are welcome.
>BUT REMEMBER DO NOT POST BINARIES TO THE LIST send it to
>albouy@hotmail.com .

I use Borland Turbo C 2.0. Quite small, fast, and stable, but no C++.

Salu2. Nacho.

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At 21:22 4/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>I'm thinking there's a port of gcc to DOS but I'm not sure.  I am sure,
>however, that there is a gcc cross-compiler which runs under Linux
>but compiles under DOS.  Don't know if this helps...

I think it will not. I use DJGPP, whicj is the DOS port of the GNU
compiler. Its one of the greatest pieces of software I've ever seen (and
the quality/cost relationship tends to infinitum since it's free). BUT, the
compiler is 32 bit, AND the code generated is 32 bit too, so, no chance to
compile for 8086, sorry.

>BTW, I think there is someplace on the SimTel site which maintains
>GNU code compiled for DOS.  I'm not sure but you can check it
>out at http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/

I can confirm that. I know that those programs are not 32 bit, so they'll
probably work on the 200LX.

Regards. Nacho.

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Hi:

I'm plannig to do the speed upgrade myself, and as an electronics designer,
I'll probably be able to request the crystal as a sample. So, I have some
questions for user who have already done the upgrade:

1- The FAQ states the requires crystal for speed doubling is 31.673550 MHz,
is this information accurate ?

2- Is replacing the crystal the only hardware modification to be done ?

3- How noticeable is the battlery life shortening ?

Thnaks in advance. Nacho.

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Hi, everybody:

I'm a brand new user of a HP200LX. Great machine. I'm no DOS fan, but I
choose it because there is plenty of easily available programming tools for
it, plenty of software for it, and full hardware information about it
(though you have to buy the SDK).

It's DOS, so that means it's well known and fully documented (even
undocumented tips). Because of all that, Win CE machines were totally
discarded by me.

Another thing I do like of this machine (and palmtops in general, maybe
excludig Win CE machines, but it's probably because I hate W) is that
because of it's speed and storage limitations programs MUST be small and
efficient.

I plan program a lot on the 200LX, and when thinking about the storage
limitations got some ideas I would like to share with everybody in order to
get your comments, and posibly start a programming group:

When you create a new program using a C compiler, an important percentage
of it's size are the libraries. Just try to compile and compare two
programs: one with just a void main function and other with a printf
(printf uses to be one of the largest library functions). Another good
example would be the floating point library.

I guess that's the reason because of which the concept of shared libraries
was born, and thats more or less what I would like to do with the HP200LX.

I tought that if I make three programs, most of the library code will be
the same, thus wasting my precious -and expensive- flash card space. So,
wouldn't be great to have some kind of dynamic linking ?.

I would like to hear about ANY suggestion for implementations, but
meanwhile, there are mines:

1- 'Real' dynamic linking. This would require an special stub loader in
each EXE, which loads the real program in memory, seeks for the libraries,
loads the required functions, and finally performs the linking. I still
have to think about this, but I guess it will need an special linker for
the compiler, and one of my goals is to do it as compiler-independent as
possible.

2- When compiling, substitute library functions by inlined INT calls. This
is very easy. But where to place libraries ?... always in memory ?. Maybe
having only in memory a driver that loads the required libraries when they
are first requested.

I know there are lots of side problems, like the fact that maybe in the
moment the programs calls a function DOS is not ready to load a file from
disk. Moreover... when to unload libraries ?... when the program finishes ?.

The good thing is that for each compiler, we would only have to rewrite
each library function as an inlined INT call (which is almost just a -big-
typing task).


Well, I'll keep on thinking about this stuff, but as I said, would like to
hear any comments/suggestions to see if it's worth and the best way to do
it. Remember, I'm just new to 200LX, not an experienced user.

Regards. Nacho.

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I believe the name is PPC, a shareware c compiler on the CD that is
available from The Palmtop Paper. If you are getting the SDK from them
then you will have a copy on the same CD. I do not have the CD here but
can check on it later. If you want I can zip it up and e-mail it to you
tomorrow. (not via the list).

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois-Xavier Albouy ÝSMTP:albouy@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 10:40 PM
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> Subject:      looking for C compiler
>
> I'm looking for a C compiler that would work on a HP200lx with 1mb of
> ram (i have a 20MB flash card). If you have any idea or software (I
> mean
> shareware :-)) to send you are welcome.
> BUT REMEMBER DO NOT POST BINARIES TO THE LIST send it to
> albouy@hotmail.com .
>
>                                 thanks
>
>
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>I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
>Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
>are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
>website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
>again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
>satisfied.
>
>Jim Smith
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I've had the speed upgrade for over a year on a brand NEW machine! I've had
no problems with it. In fact, I like it so much I'm sending my second
machine in for upgrade this week.

The usual disclaimer apply i.e. you'll lose whatever HP warranty you might
have had once the case is opened. Also the old Ace Double Flash needs some
reconfiguring of its driver in order to be accessed properly.

Good luck.



SLee

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From:         RON CARTER <atlas3@DREAMSCAPE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pathetic survey results :(
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It could be because every time someone asks a question that does not =
involve a simple answer or that does not interest the majority it gets =
strugged off or someone sends the person elsewhere for the answer.  The =
HP200LX is such an incredible little machine it's a shame that many =
people don't chose to expand their understanding further then the phone =
book and appointment apps.  Cheers to all those who, through programming =
or just experimenting, have made the HP accomplish heretofore =
unimaginable tasks.

Sorry for the gripe.........on second thoughts........no I'm not.


<snip>
>Frankly, I'm disappointed.  Apparently this group has far more mute
>people than I thought.  I think this list should be for people with =
more
>than a passing interest in this great machine.  It is too bad that =
there
>are people, in this relatively private realm, who listen in without
>actively contributing to the group.  I try to answer questions for =
people
>when they post them to this group; but I would guess 150 people just
>don't talk at all, which is sad.


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Date:         Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:52:24 -0500
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Try subscribing each of your mailboxes to the List, then transmit a SET
HPLX-L NOMAIL command to the Listserver for the boxes you don't want
mail in.

>----------
>From:  EgginsÝSMTP:david.eggins@USA.NET¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, August 05, 1997 3:06 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       ADMIN: Sending mail to list from two E-Mail accounts
>
>Hello All,
>
>I notice that you can not send E-Mail to the list form an E-Mail
>account which is not on the HP Recieving list.
>
>I have an E-Mail address with one of those free internet based
>forwarding services.  I can have any mail sent to it forwarded to any number
>of
>email addresses, and or stored there for access via the internet,
>according to filters.
>
>This allows me to have my E-Mail forwarded to wherever is most
>convenient for me at that particular time, ie, when I travel.
>
>Is there any way for me to enter my other E-Mail addresses into the
>list for sending E-Mail to the list, but not recieving fom the list?
>
>Thanks
>
>David Eggins
>davee@iname.com
>
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Date:         Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:00:30 -0400
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I'm in the process of purchasing a flash card for my 200LX. I'm interested
in people's experiences on the following.

- Linear vs. ATA flash cards: I've noticed that ATA cards are a little
cheaper and seems more versatile as they can also be used in CE machines.
Are there any draw backs to them?

- Manufacturers: Are there any significant differences in the speed,
reliablility, durability, etc. among the different manufacturers of the
cards e.g. Sandisk vs. MagicRam vs. Viking. I've heard good things about
Sandisks but they seems to cost a little more.

Thanks.



SLee

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Hi!

I would like to read my email messages on my HP importing from Nestscape
or Explorer.
How can I do it?

Thanks in advance to all in this list for any suggestion.

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Date:         Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:26:07 +0200
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I have 20 MB ATA Card from Kingston.
It is very good product. It work with JAM compressed to 50 MB.
In next month I purchase second card, also from this manufacturer.

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> Od: Steven Lee <Steven_T_Lee@BROWN.EDU>
> Do: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Temat: flash cards
> Data: 5 sierpnia 1997 16:00
>=20
> I'm in the process of purchasing a flash card for my 200LX. I'm =
interested
> in people's experiences on the following.
>=20
> - Linear vs. ATA flash cards: I've noticed that ATA cards are a little
> cheaper and seems more versatile as they can also be used in CE =
machines.
> Are there any draw backs to them?
>=20
> - Manufacturers: Are there any significant differences in the speed,
> reliablility, durability, etc. among the different manufacturers of =
the
> cards e.g. Sandisk vs. MagicRam vs. Viking. I've heard good things =
about
> Sandisks but they seems to cost a little more.
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> SLee
>=20
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Date:         Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:09:56 EDT
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Subject:      Re: flash cards

Text of message from Steven_T_Lee@BROWN.EDU, 5 Aug 1997, 10:00 AM

> - Manufacturers: Are there any significant differences in the speed,
> reliablility, durability, etc. among the different manufacturers of the
> cards e.g. Sandisk vs. MagicRam vs. Viking. I've heard good things about
> Sandisks but they seems to cost a little more.
>

FYI most are made by relatively few manufacturers.  You need to ask to be
sure.  My Magic Ram card, for example, was made by SanDisk (and I got a
good price).  Alix and Viking are the same, as well.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
 (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
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Date:         Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:19:03 -0400
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From:         Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
Subject:      Re: SCSI PCMCIA Trouble!!!
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 05 Aug 1997 08:25:18 -0000."
              <199708050810.JAA14760@batman.memec.com>

I wrote:
> QLogic is a hardware manufacturer, headquartered in California.  Their
> web site is http://qlogic.qlc.com/.  You'll find reference to their
> PCMCIA SCSI adapters under Products->QLA->Retired Products.
> They offer a driver package that appears to include a point enabler, for
> download.

Ralph Thomson responded:
> Nearly correct their site is http://www.qlc.com

You might try *testing* a URL before declaring that it's incorrect.
The one I posted was what was reported by AltaVista, and what I used to
explore their site.

It's likely that QLogic subsequently adopted the standard form (what
you reported), but AltaVista continues to report the first one it saw.

                                -Jim.

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remsoft writes:
Sears, in Brooklyn Center, is selling PNY 8MB ATA Flash cards for
$139.  They are stocking this one for the new digital cameras they are
selling.  I was wondering if that was a good price, and who makes the
card.  I was also wondering wheather it is fast, relatively speaking.
Anyone got one?

Thanks,
Doug

 > I have 20 MB ATA Card from Kingston.
 > It is very good product. It work with JAM compressed to 50 MB.
 > In next month I purchase second card, also from this manufacturer.
 >
 > ----------
 > > Od: Steven Lee <Steven_T_Lee@BROWN.EDU>
 > > Do: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
 > > Temat: flash cards
 > > Data: 5 sierpnia 1997 16:00
 > >
 > > I'm in the process of purchasing a flash card for my 200LX. I'm interested
 > > in people's experiences on the following.
 > >
 > > - Linear vs. ATA flash cards: I've noticed that ATA cards are a little
 > > cheaper and seems more versatile as they can also be used in CE machines.
 > > Are there any draw backs to them?
 > >
 > > - Manufacturers: Are there any significant differences in the speed,
 > > reliablility, durability, etc. among the different manufacturers of the
 > > cards e.g. Sandisk vs. MagicRam vs. Viking. I've heard good things about
 > > Sandisks but they seems to cost a little more.
 > >
 > > Thanks.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > SLee
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On Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:06:44,
        Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET> Wrote:

>
> I notice that you can not send E-Mail to the list form an
> E-Mail
> account which is not on the HP Recieving list.

...

>
> Is there any way for me to enter my other E-Mail addresses into
> the
> list for sending E-Mail to the list, but not recieving fom the
> list?

Hi Dave & Group:

        You can subscribe from all the accounts you want to post from,
then set all but the one you want to receive from to "NOMAIL". I set=
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the list as private so only listed subscribers could post to make
"spamming" more difficult!

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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On Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:25:15
        Pablo Hyun KIM <hyunspak@MOVI.COM.AR> Wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I would like to read my email messages on my HP importing from
> Nestscape
> or Explorer.
> How can I do it?
>
> Thanks in advance to all in this list for any suggestion.

        What has worked for me in the past is to edit out the message
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HV to view the file.

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Hi All:

       I will be in the process of upgrading the HPLX.shtml site in=
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next 24Hrs. By noon tomorrow, the log files should be current & GLIMPSE
links appropriate. Sorry for the delay, I was away the last part of
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(SHAME ON ME!).

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      HPgotchi

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I don't know about a Tomigotchi (sorry I knw that's misspelled) for the HP, but
it would be a neat program to have!!! My kids love their little egg-shaped
toys, so it would be fun to try it on the HP. The closet thing I know of is a
program called JoeSim. It's kinda a artificial intelligence program that's fun
to play around with. There's a version for the HP that even includes the icon.
It's available at http://www.uoguelph.ca/~aoniszcz
I've got it loaded on my HP and it runs great!!! If anyone does come up with a
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73's de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Date:         Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:11:48 -0400
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<<I'm a brand new user of a HP200LX.>>

<<vI guess that's the reason because of which the concept of shared
libraries
was born, and thats more or less what I would like to do with the
HP200LX.>>

Have you looked at the PAL library developed by Gilles Kohl?

     Carl Merkle

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<<        Can ANYONE confirm the rumour that HP was going to restart the
production line of HP 200LXs that was "temporarily" closed down to cope
with
the expected initial pent up surge in demand for the Win-CE machines?>>

We are getting them in stock now, after a long waiting period, so HP has
started
production of the 200LXs. Khaw has also indicated to me that they can mak=
e
very
large quantities of the devices available, with adequate notice of course=
=2E
The platform isn't dead folks. We'd be happy to take your large corporate=

orders.
Just call if you want to order one or more.

     Carl Merkle
     Director of Corporate Projects
     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
     Phone:  805-371-9391 -  Fax: 805-371-9454
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I'm looking for a 100LX motherboard . If any has a damaged 100LX and would
like to sell the motherboard please let me know.


Looking forward to your reply,
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Carl,

Do you know if 700LX's (may have model no. wrong) are still available for vertical
applications?

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On Tue, 5 Aug 1997 00:20:08 PDT, Ian Butler wrote:

>Unfortunately, the vast majority of the computer world, and, indeed, the
>Internet, speaks English.  One can not expect to speak his native non-
>English language on the Internet and be understood by very many people.

I suspect most, if not all, of his European readers will have had no
problems whatsoever. In Europe, we all learn at least one second
language at school, usually French.

>I'm not trying to be hard-headed or cruel, but that's they way it is.  I=
 applaud
>those few US citizens who can speak multiple languages, and I applaud
>non-domestic people who can also speak English.  But you can't expect to
>go around blithering in French and be understood by many people, just
>like you can't go around Japan and speak English and be understood.

Actually, you probably *can* get away with English in Japan - they
also understand the value of speaking a second language.

Unfortunately, what you said only serves to fan the flames of
isolationism, and you would have been better advised to have
criticised the fact that some parts of the world are very insular. You
have learnt other languages, and this is to be applauded - you should
encourage your fellow citizens to do likewise.

--=20
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On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:39:37 PDT, Francois-Xavier Albouy wrote:

>I'm looking for a C compiler that would work on a HP200lx with 1mb of
>ram (i have a 20MB flash card). If you have any idea or software (I mean
>shareware :-)) to send you are welcome.

It's worth checking places like the Simtel archives for freeware or
shareware compilers. There are some out there. Also try
www.shareware.com.

--=20
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> > One potential solution is to have Majordomo reject multi-part MIME.
> > The only things I've seen on this forum done in MIME are the binaries
> > and HTML-ized duplicates of people's messages.  I would miss neither.
>                                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Agreed!
>
>  Stripping binaries & HTML dups seems like a *GREAT* idea.
>

I am glad that someone puts this on the agenda. I wonder whether
_anyone_ uses (and really needs) "HTML-ized duplicates of people's
messages". I guess it is only an option that can be switched of in
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You might look for the Oxbow C compiler.  If I recall correctly, it can
compile for 16, 32, and 64 bit systems on a wide variety of platforms.
It runs under DOS, I believe.  I'll check around on my hard drives to
see if I have it and will keep you guys posted.  OxCC is a very nice
compiler, although it may not support some types of SDK libraries, I
don't know.

Ian Butler
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> I plan program a lot on the 200LX, and when thinking about the storage
> limitations got some ideas I would like to share with everybody in orde=
r to
> get your comments, and posibly start a programming group:

Contact me, I'm working with a couple other people to form one now.

> I tought that if I make three programs, most of the library code will =
be
> the same, thus wasting my precious -and expensive- flash card space. =
So,
> wouldn't be great to have some kind of dynamic linking ?.

QuickBASIC, though not the fastest program in the world, can dynamically
link its runtime library with a compiled executable,  BRUN45.EXE, a speci=
al
runtime executable which contains the runtime library and dynamic linker,
can be shared by any program which was compiled with QB 4.5.

> 2- When compiling, substitute library functions by inlined INT calls. =
This
> is very easy. But where to place libraries ?... always in memory ?. May=
be
> having only in memory a driver that loads the required libraries when =
they

> are first requested.

Programs which deal with graphics display can load LXPIC and use it
as a driver.  More programs should be built like this, small utilities =
which
can run on their own but have full programmer's interfaces.

> I know there are lots of side problems, like the fact that maybe in the
> moment the programs calls a function DOS is not ready to load a file =
from
> disk. Moreover... when to unload libraries ?... when the program finish=
es ?.

LXPIC takes 64K so it may not be useful to load and unload it all the tim=
e.
The other side of the coin is the RAM disk, which runs as fast as DOS
conventional RAM.  Virtual memory is as quick as main memory, which is
the basis of EMM200, another nice utility.

> Well, I'll keep on thinking about this stuff, but as I said, would like=
 to
> hear any comments/suggestions to see if it's worth and the best way to =
do
> it. Remember, I'm just new to 200LX, not an experienced user.

Welcome to the club!

Ian Butler
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Re: Y-a-t-il des Francais ?

excusa me, por favor.

it never occured to me that anyone would take offense to a question written
in pig latin.  i merely intended a spot of levity.  to those who took
offense, i extend my most sincere appology.

lynn m. cavendish

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Let this thread stop with this message.  I understand that many people
wish to speak their native non-English language on the Internet.  But the
fact is is that many more people do not understand French than do not
understand English.  It is in the interest, in my opinion, of this group =
that
we speak English so that we can understand one another.  I am not
going to go into the social and political aspects of this, but most peopl=
e
here speak English either as a first or second language and that we
should speak here.

And what are we talking about here, the 200LX or spoken languages?
I mean, gee whiz, people. ;)

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> Let this thread stop with this message.

List Owner's $.02: the only language which is not welcome on
this LIST is "binary".

Cheers,

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There's also Power C from MIX software, which sounds pretty good (havent't
tried it myself) The other good thing is that it's only $20. I would have
gotten this if I didn't have Turbo C++ already.

Good luck.

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Thanks to all of you who commented on the Times2 speed upgrade.  I
haven't heard of any major problems and it sounds like the improvement
is worth it.

Jim

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Hello all you Time2 Speed upgrade owners;

I have a 200LX with 1 meg, and another with a times2 upgrade and five
megs ram. When I try to transfer data between them using filer it works
fine, until I try to transfer a LARGE file, such as 3-400 k. Then the
connection breaks somehow. Does anyone have any idea why this might be?

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles


>
> Thanks to all of you who commented on the Times2 speed upgrade.  I
> haven't heard of any major problems and it sounds like the improvement
> is worth it.
>
> Jim
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Hi!

I have the diagram to make a transfer cable for HP.
If you want I can send to you in HTML form.

About the 10-pin HP connector I'm using 4-pin cdrom drive to sound card
cable in my desktop PC.

Regards.


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Asunto: pc - hp200 link cable?
Fecha: Lunes 4 de Agosto de 1997 5:52 PM

Hi,

Does anyone have a schematic / wiring diagram for a link lead???

I am trying not to pay #30+ uk pounds for a piece of wire!!



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> <<I'm a brand new user of a HP200LX.>>
>
> <<vI guess that's the reason because of which the concept of shared
> libraries
> was born, and thats more or less what I would like to do with the
> HP200LX.>>

The difference between what is "needed" on the HP and dynamic link
libraries, is that DLL's allow you to have access to the same functions for
multiple program instances which are in memory at the same time. On the HP
you dont really have this problem as you are really only running one
DOS program at a time. However, you have multiple copies of library code
etc etc on "disk" (Which is also memory). Here a great saving can be made
by loading the libraries from a disk image at run time. The best example of
this is Stefan's LXPIC which is specifically designed with this in mind.

The problem is of course that you have different compilers and multiple
memory models so if you were to create, for example a PAL.COM file with the
PAL library functions in it, you would have to use the large memory model
in order to support all providers. And how many PAL programs do you have on
your HP, and how many of the authors of theose programs would rewrite their
code in order to use PAL.COM and not just link in the PAL libraries.

IMHO the space saved != the effort involved

But YHO is always respected!


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Can anyone recommend a good and SMALL comm program for the HPLX? I have
been using Datacomm but it seems to be soooo slow :( Any comments or
suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Also VT100 emulation is a must!

73's de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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you can find lots of electronic text (great for Vertical reader) on:

(just type the two lines below)

http://www.softseek.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?keywords=dos&seekindex=%2Fusr%2Fbin%2Fseek%2Findex.seek&maxresults=075


(All the text are in english ;-) )

"The hardest thing to open is a closed mind..."
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ETS (Canada)


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Kermit.  It's good as a terminal, although it will _eat you alive_ with =
file
transfers.  It has VT100/102/52, ANSI, TTY, and Tek4010 terminal
emulation (With Unices incl. Linux, connect your big computer to the
palmtop and do a complicated Gnu Plot drawing.  The results are quite
impressive.).

Ian Butler
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> been using Datacomm but it seems to be soooo slow :( Any comments or
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> Also VT100 emulation is a must!

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Is there an ac adaptator for the 200lx that can be used on 110v and on
220 this would be great cause i'm traveling from canada to france.

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Francois,

I've never tried it out on the LX but take a look at Pacific C:

http://www-eng.tp.ac.sg/student/cprog/pacific.exe

It's 700K zipped. It has it's own IDE that, (although nice) if included in
this archive can be gotten rid of. Claims it's mostly compatible with MS C++.

It may not work on our lowly 186's but it's worth a look.

If it works let us know.

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Thanks Jim

Only trying to help

We are the Qlogic rep in the UK and I use the URL I posted all the
time but you are right I might have checked yours first

R

> I wrote:
> > QLogic is a hardware manufacturer, headquartered in California.  Their
> > web site is http://qlogic.qlc.com/.  You'll find reference to their
> > PCMCIA SCSI adapters under Products->QLA->Retired Products.
> > They offer a driver package that appears to include a point enabler, for
> > download.
>
> Ralph Thomson responded:
> > Nearly correct their site is http://www.qlc.com
>
> You might try *testing* a URL before declaring that it's incorrect.
> The one I posted was what was reported by AltaVista, and what I used to
> explore their site.
>
> It's likely that QLogic subsequently adopted the standard form (what
> you reported), but AltaVista continues to report the first one it saw.
>
>                                 -Jim.
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So far, PC-File seems to fill my need for a DB that's small enough and can
hold my "notes" fields. Thanks "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>.

Problem: (Not really a HPLX issue, but...)
It comes with an exe that prints the 120 page (three more dead trees)
documentation and it cannot be redirected. I used to have a TSR that would
catch anything on it's way to the printer and write it to a file. Can't find
it. Can anybody help?
 ______          _
|      \  ____  | |     ___   ____
| _____/ /    \ | |    /   \ | __ \
| |     |------ | |__ |  0  || | \ \
|_|      \____  \____\ \___/ |_| |_|
Brian Franey                phone   506-283-5941
Apdo 7028-1000              pelonpelon@geocities.com
San Jose, Costa Rica        http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7839

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At 17:15 5/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>> I plan program a lot on the 200LX, and when thinking about the storage
>> limitations got some ideas I would like to share with everybody in order to
>> get your comments, and posibly start a programming group:
>
>Contact me, I'm working with a couple other people to form one now.

Ok.

>> I tought that if I make three programs, most of the library code will be
>> the same, thus wasting my precious -and expensive- flash card space. So,
>> wouldn't be great to have some kind of dynamic linking ?.
>
>QuickBASIC, though not the fastest program in the world, can dynamically
>link its runtime library with a compiled executable,  BRUN45.EXE, a special
>runtime executable which contains the runtime library and dynamic linker,
>can be shared by any program which was compiled with QB 4.5.

Good, but would like to keep away from BASIC as much as possible. In fact,
I think by now  I just don't even remember how it was.

>> Well, I'll keep on thinking about this stuff, but as I said, would like to
>> hear any comments/suggestions to see if it's worth and the best way to do
>> it. Remember, I'm just new to 200LX, not an experienced user.
>
>Welcome to the club!

Thanks. I'll do some programming about dynamic linking with my old Turbo C
2.0. I'll post my experiences.

Regards. Nacho.

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hello programmers,

I developpe a sort a DLL system which have three composants :
programs(applications), ressources(libraries) and DLL manager(TSR patcher=
)

1) each library have number (0-255) and in that library each
resources(function) have a number too (0-255).

2) when a program need a ressource, it ask the manager the library(L) and
the ressource(R) it wants (0xLLRR).

3) the DLL manager looks if the library is loaded, if not, loads it, then
search the function. If it finds it, It patchs the program to transform t=
he
ask of ressource by a far call or a far jump to that function.

4) the freeing of ressources (is a ressource ...) can be call in a
application, or by command line, when the user wants it.

5) for the moment, I developpe some utilities like lxtools, each programs
(lxdir, lxget, lxput, ..) use the dll where there is the filer protocol,
another one where there is the communication (COM1) functions, and some
others, for utilities  (long to ascii, CRC, ..).

short mail are better, so if somebody needs more details : ask, I proball=
y
can do more, even in french  (y a-t-il des fran=E7ais ?) ;-)

Jean-Baptiste GAGNON  N 48 50'  E 2 20'

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> Is there an ac adaptator for the 200lx that can be used on 110v and on
> 220 this would be great cause i'm traveling from canada to france.

on my HP F1011A #ABB AC/DC ADAPTER
INPUT 100-240 V~ 0.3A 50/60 Hz is written

Jean-Baptiste GAGNON

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At 07:09 6/08/97 +0300, you wrote:
>> <<I'm a brand new user of a HP200LX.>>
>>
>> <<vI guess that's the reason because of which the concept of shared
>> libraries
>> was born, and thats more or less what I would like to do with the
>> HP200LX.>>
>
>The difference between what is "needed" on the HP and dynamic link
>libraries, is that DLL's allow you to have access to the same functions for
>multiple program instances which are in memory at the same time. On the HP
>you dont really have this problem as you are really only running one
>DOS program at a time. However, you have multiple copies of library code
>etc etc on "disk" (Which is also memory). Here a great saving can be made
>by loading the libraries from a disk image at run time. The best example of

That's exactly what I meant with my message. No need to share code at
execution time, but to share library code on storage. What I would like to
do is a 'common' standard C library that could be run-time linkable.

At the first moment, I thought that maybe replacing library calls in the
program by inlined INT calls, and loading the whole library in memory,
hooked through that INT, would be enough. But that goes against the
'library' philosophy, since not *all* the library functions will be needed.

So, again, the best would be to make a stub loader for each exe, that
checks what library fucntions are used and does dynamic link from a common
library file. The problem is how to do it without having to do extensive
hacking on compiler-specific tools like tlink.

>this is Stefan's LXPIC which is specifically designed with this in mind.

That's great, but only for graphics. Just imagine how much space would be
saved if we could do that also for 'printf', for instace.

>The problem is of course that you have different compilers and multiple
>memory models so if you were to create, for example a PAL.COM file with the
>PAL library functions in it, you would have to use the large memory model
>in order to support all providers. And how many PAL programs do you have on
>your HP, and how many of the authors of theose programs would rewrite their
>code in order to use PAL.COM and not just link in the PAL libraries.
>
>IMHO the space saved != the effort involved

I agree. I was not expecting authors to rewrite their code once a shared
library and methods for dynamic linking are released, but just to give the
tools for future programs to use less of our expensive solid state storage
media.

But also think that if compiler-specific 'fake' libraries (this is,
substitutes of the standard libraries that just call the common shared
libraries) are provided, software authors would just have to recompile
their programs with the new libraries.

If properly done (this is, for example, declaring all 'fake' functions as
far), just a single model common library would be needed.

Salu2. Nacho.

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I can tell you about the speed upgrade at least....you will notice a BIG
difference in overall performace with upgrade. I would highly recommend i=
t,
if you can stand being without your unit for  a few days!

Paul

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I'll trade you a 1meg apple newton SRAM card. (I dont have any 2 meggers)=
=2E

Paul   103322.53@compuserve.com

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Steven ,

You mentioned a modification of the drivers for a Ace DoubleFlash.  I do have
these drivers because they were lost when I accidently formated my c: drive.
This requirement could explain the anomolies that I have been having on my
5meg Speed doubled 200LX.

P. Craig Davis
PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country

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>I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
>Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
>are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
>website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
>again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
satisfied.
>
>Jim Smith
>

>>I've had the speed upgrade for over a year on a brand NEW machine! I've
>>had no problems with it. In fact, I like it so much I'm sending my second
>>machine in for upgrade this week.

>>The usual disclaimer apply i.e. you'll lose whatever HP warranty you >>might
have had once the case is opened. Also the old Ace Double >>Flash needs some
reconfiguring of its driver in order to be accessed >>properly.

Good luck.

SLee

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Jean-Francois,

Do you know where I could get the drivers for an Ace 10Mb flash card with the
memory upgrade.  I bought my LX used and my c: drive got trashed so I lost the
files.

P. Craig Davis
PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country.

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois?=
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I bought a 20Mb flash card from Ace 2 years ago, it's been working fine
so far. The only disappointment was that I often get frustrated having
to wait a few seconds for the card to go through its consistency
verification process each time the unit is turned on... Since I'm a very
heavy user and turn on and off my HP100LX a hundred times per day, I
would like to know if anyone of you has experienced the same snag with
other large capacity Flash cards... Please let me know and I'll order it
straight away !

Thank you for your feedback.

Jean-Francois PICART from Marseilles - France

jfpicart@easynet.fr

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I'd like to do the same thing.  I second the motion for a possible solution to
this problem.

P. Craig Davis
PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country.

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Hi!

I would like to read my email messages on my HP importing from Nestscape
or Explorer.
How can I do it?

Thanks in advance to all in this list for any suggestion.

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Lynn,

Do you know where I could get a copy of Acecard.com?  I have a 10Mb flash
card.  I lost my c: drive and have been able to use this card.

P. Craig Davis
PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country.

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list,  i passed on concers which were posted about the compatability of speed
upgrades with other devices to times2tech.  in about an hour i had the
following answer from mack:


>- can't use the full capacity of his 80Mb ACE flash card because
>the driver used to compress data doesn't work with the upgrade, he
>can use 40 Mb.

The person can comment out the ACECARD.COM driver in the config.sys on the
uncompressed portion of the card.  They need to call me and I can get both
problems fixed.

>- can't use neither his accurite "travel floppy" nor his accurite
>"double slot" again because  the driver doesn't works since the
>upgrade...

Accurite has newer drivers that work with my speed upgrade.

Please relay this info for me and have the person who did the upgrades
contact us.

Thanks,
Mack
----------------------------------------------------
Times2 Tech  (Ph. 205-620-1408/Fax 205-620-5205)
email: mack@times2tech.com
  web: http://www.times2tech.com/

The hardest thing to open is a closed mind...
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At 11:28 PM 8/5/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a good and SMALL comm program for the HPLX? I have
>been using Datacomm but it seems to be soooo slow :( Any comments or
>suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>Also VT100 emulation is a must!
>
>73's de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net

I use Procomm Plus for Dos, very small and runs in 138K ram....

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Jeff wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a good and SMALL comm program for the HPLX?...

Look for "COMMO".

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Does anyone know where I could get Card and Socket Services drivers
for the 200?  The Panasonic ASPI driver should work if I can fit Card &
Socket Services underneath.

Thanks,
Doug

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Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good and SMALL comm program for the HPLX? I
> have been using Datacomm but it seems to be soooo slow :( Any comments
> or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Also VT100 emulation=
 is
> a must!

Try COMMO. It's available on SimTel sites /msdos/datacomm/ directory.
Also at ftp://ftp.ordata.com/COMMO/

The ordata site also has the latest 7.0f beta version which now has=
 a
configurable cursor. (A block cursor is a LOT easier to see on the
palmtop screen. If you need small, you will need to 86 the help files
for the beta version, since they include the COMPLETE manual (about
360K). The prog itself is just over 40K. The regular 7.0 version has=
 a
smaller (~40K) help file.

COMMO has VT102, VT220, & ANSI-BBS emulations. Also xmodem, ymodem,=
 and
zmodem file transfers. The program is completely configurable, and can
be enhanced thru use of macros (it has a comprehensive macro language).

Hope this helps.
------------


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>Steven ,
>
>You mentioned a modification of the drivers for a Ace DoubleFlash.  I do have
>these drivers because they were lost when I accidently formated my c: drive.
>This requirement could explain the anomolies that I have been having on my
>5meg Speed doubled 200LX.
>
>P. Craig Davis
>PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country
>
>----------
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>Sent:   Tuesday, August 05, 1997 9:24 AM
>To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:        Re: Times2 upgrade
>
>>I am interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased Times2
>>Techspeed upgrade.  I am considering it but would like to know if there
>>are any drawbacks other than those listed by the Times2 company on their
>>website.  Are there programs it is not compatible with?  Would you do it
>>again?  I purchased a 4MB memory upgrade from them and have been very
>satisfied.
>>
>>Jim Smith
>>
>
>>>I've had the speed upgrade for over a year on a brand NEW machine! I've
>>>had no problems with it. In fact, I like it so much I'm sending my second
>>>machine in for upgrade this week.
>
>>>The usual disclaimer apply i.e. you'll lose whatever HP warranty you >>might
>have had once the case is opened. Also the old Ace Double >>Flash needs some
>reconfiguring of its driver in order to be accessed >>properly.
>
>Good luck.
>
>SLee


Craig,

Try contacting Times2 Tech (mack@times2tech.com). Mack might know where to
obtain a copy of the modified driver needed to work with your Double Flash
card.



SLee

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On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Casa de Luz wrote:

> It comes with an exe that prints the 120 page (three more dead trees)
> documentation and it cannot be redirected. I used to have a TSR that would
> catch anything on it's way to the printer and write it to a file. Can't find
> it. Can anybody help?

It's been awhile, but I seem to remember using PC Mag's PRN2FILE for that
purpose on my XT. I have it on my LX also, but frankly haven't used it
much, tho it seems to work there too.

It's at ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pcmagutl/prn2file.zip

- Longden

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> Problem: (Not really a HPLX issue, but...)
> It comes with an exe that prints the 120 page (three more dead trees)
> documentation and it cannot be redirected. I used to have a TSR that > =
would catch anything on it's way to the printer and write it to a file. =
Can't > find it. Can anybody help?

I use a simple program called PRN2FILE which was written by Tom Kihlken. =
 I have had been using this forever.  I think it came on a monthly disk =
subscription that I was getting years ago, and I don't know if it is =
shareware, freeware, or commercial. =20

Let me know if you can't find it, and I will see what I can do.




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              <199708061337.IAA26683@ecss04.asd>

Doug Mashek wrote:

> Does anyone know where I could get Card and Socket Services drivers
> for the 200?  The Panasonic ASPI driver should work if I can fit Card &
> Socket Services underneath.

I'm actively looking for one myself, to support a card from Eiger
Labs.  I'll report here if I find anything.

As I reported the other day, a tech support rep. at Systemsoft said
that they their product (Cardsoft) doesn't support the 200LX.  This was
based on my description of the unit (80186 running DOS 5.0), but he
also had a vague recollection of it, and a posting to c.s.h from late
1995 had the same news.  Systemsoft wrote CIC100, by the way, which is
why I was hopeful.

The two other vendors I know of are Award and Phoenix.  I left voicemail
with both.  Intel also has their own package, called Card Manager, but
it's been discontinued and apparently only ever shipped with their
cards.

The Eiger Labs web page indicates that *they* were supposed to ship a
CSS with the card.  I'm guessing that I got an older version of the
driver disk (Sequoia vs. Corel drivers, etc.), and I'm dogging their
tech. support about it.

                                -Jim.

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Hi, everybody!!!

I have tried both URL and the right one was http://qlogic.qlc.com/ where I
have download pcmcia scsi drivers.

Thanks to all!!!

----------
> De: Ralph Thomson <rthomson@ACP.MEMEC.COM>
> A: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Asunto: Re: SCSI PCMCIA Trouble!!!
> Fecha: Miircoles 6 de Agosto de 1997 4:58 AM
>
> Thanks Jim
>
> Only trying to help
>
> We are the Qlogic rep in the UK and I use the URL I posted all the
> time but you are right I might have checked yours first
>
> R
>
> > I wrote:
> > > QLogic is a hardware manufacturer, headquartered in California.
Their
> > > web site is http://qlogic.qlc.com/.  You'll find reference to their
> > > PCMCIA SCSI adapters under Products->QLA->Retired Products.
> > > They offer a driver package that appears to include a point enabler,
for
> > > download.
> >
> > Ralph Thomson responded:
> > > Nearly correct their site is http://www.qlc.com
> >
> > You might try *testing* a URL before declaring that it's incorrect.
> > The one I posted was what was reported by AltaVista, and what I used to
> > explore their site.
> >
> > It's likely that QLogic subsequently adopted the standard form (what
> > you reported), but AltaVista continues to report the first one it saw.
> >
> >                                 -Jim.
> >
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Ignacio writes:
....
I guess that's the reason because of which the concept of shared
libraries
was born, and thats more or less what I would like to do with the
HP200LX.

I tought that if I make three programs, most of the library code will
be
the same, thus wasting my precious -and expensive- flash card space.
So,
wouldn't be great to have some kind of dynamic linking ?.
....

There wass a commercial product called RTLink from PocketSoft
(www.pocketsoft.com).  It allows the creation of dynamic link libraries with
just about any DOS-based compiler.  The same concept as U**x shared libs
and Win DLLs.

I played with it some a few years back (before I got my LX), and it
worked quite nicely.  I may have to dig it out and try it with something
like PAL, to see what happens.  (Oh my gosh! ANOTHER spare-time project!)

Kiyoshi Akima
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ÝSorry if this shows up twice...  Something goofy happened at
 my end and I am not sure if this actually went out or not¨

I know this has been discussed here (or was it a news group??) before
but...

I want to get a belt pouch for my 200 and see that EduCalc has two:
"The Pouch" and "The Belt Holster".  The descriptions and pictures
are a little on the lame side so I have some questions:

- which has a belt CLIP rather than a belt LOOP.  What I'm looking
  for is something that is secure on a belt but can be removed without
  removing the belt

- they both seem to have some sort of Velcro strap to keep the HP
  from falling out.  Is that accurate?  Is the strap just a strip
  of Velcro or is is Velcro mounted on a bit of whatever the case
  is made of?

- does anyone have/use the shoulder strap for "The Pouch"?  Good?
  Bad?  Get you arrested for carrying a concealed weapon?

I guess they are cheap enough (and I'm not paying for it! :) that
I can get both and stick one in a drawer or return it or whatever
but I don't like wasting time.

Thanks in advance.

jaime
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jviehweg@lucent.com  |  Globeview 2000 Lab Support

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I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN REA D ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER THAN LOWERS.

I THINK YOU MIGHT TRY DOS UTILITY LIST 6.2 OR NEAR VERSION. WILL HANDLE
ANY SIZE FILE  TO I THINK 16 MEG. I USE IT ALL THE TIME ON THE 200LX

73 SPENCE K4KEP

Pablo Hyun KIM wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I would like to read my email messages on my HP importing from Nestscape
> or Explorer.
> How can I do it?
>
> Thanks in advance to all in this list for any suggestion.
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I have finally bitten the bullet and installed MaxDOS (what took me so
long?).  I don't use EMS but have enought space for swapping on c:.  I
followed the docs and even Jorgen's tips to the letter (and even removed
almost all my TSR's except Buddy) and still can't hear my alarms (other
than a tiny beep).  Help!

I load Playex.com before MaxDOS.

a:\util\Playex
a:\util\MaxDOS -l -wc:\tmp -ac:\_dat\alarm.snd

200

a:\util\Playex -r
a:\util\MaxDOS -r

Thanks.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH * dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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I would like to know if there is the SMMx file that was *mentioned* in the S.U.P.E.R. site
as being the BEST companion for MoreEXM available ANYWHERE? I only found an
old beta in Thaddus... Any help is appreciated.

Also, can someone list out the Japanese sites with software too? Thanks.
... I use Windows...on my car, on my house, but not on my ...

PGP Public Key Fingerprint = E3 90 4F AB 37 A0 33 F4  56 F1 91 36 9A C9 A2 39

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I just bought a "new" 1 meg 200 that was a display model at Service
Merchandise, and a pair of Energizers only last about 18 hours IN THE
OFF MODE ! and I don't even have any pcmcia's installed. I called HP
tech support 970-392-1001(the number in the manual is wrong) they said
to take all the batteries out, and leave em out for at least 24 hours to
drain the capacitors...??? Sounds strange to me, anyone heard of this
before ? I'll let you know if it works tomorrow.


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Get the one called "The Ripoff". It has a belt CLIP, fits the 200LX perfectly
and is built like military gear. The Pouch is made of neoprene (like a wetsuit)
and does not seem as tough as the Ripoff.

Mitch

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> I would like to know if there is the SMMx file that was *mentioned* in the
> S.U.P.E.R. site

The S.U.P.E.R. site has never received permission to distribute SMMx and the
one on Thaddeus.com is the latest beta. There have been no final releases as
far as I know.

Mitch (a S.U.P.E.R. guy)

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On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH wrote:

> I have finally bitten the bullet and installed MaxDOS (what took me so
> long?).  I don't use EMS but have enought space for swapping on c:.  I
> followed the docs and even Jorgen's tips to the letter (and even removed
> almost all my TSR's except Buddy) and still can't hear my alarms (other
> than a tiny beep).  Help!
>
> I load Playex.com before MaxDOS.
>
> a:\util\Playex
> a:\util\MaxDOS -l -wc:\tmp -ac:\_dat\alarm.snd
>
> 200
>
> a:\util\Playex -r
> a:\util\MaxDOS -r

I use MaxDOS, but not Playex (nor do I usually set alarms...being hard of
hearing they don't do me much good).

I think the MaxDOS doc is wrong. Simply running Playex will not load it
into memory...you have to use "playex -l". I looked at the doc for playex
and tried it out with MaxDOS and it works that way.

Your autoexec lines should read:

a:\util\playex -l
a:\util\MaxDOS -l -wc:\tmp -ac:\_dat\alarm.snd


- Longden

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> Date          Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:24:06 PDT
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> From          Francois-Xavier Albouy <albouy@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Subject       Y-a-t-il des Francais ?
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

>         Je suis etudiant francais parti pour 1 an au canada. Je voudrais=
 savoir
> si le "4 MB memory upgrade" est disponible en france est si oui a=
 quel
> prix.
>

Salut Mec / G'day

I'm French, but I cant reply to your question because I'm living in
Australia now!
Have a good time in Canada.
and See you in france    ;o )



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, p craig davis wrote:

> Steven ,
>
> You mentioned a modification of the drivers for a Ace DoubleFlash.  I do have
> these drivers because they were lost when I accidently formated my c: drive.
> This requirement could explain the anomolies that I have been having on my
>
>
> have had once the case is opened. Also the old Ace Double >>Flash needs some
> reconfiguring of its driver in order to be accessed >>properly.
>
Are the reconfigured ACE drivers available from Mack? Or where else can
you get them.



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Indiana University Physics Dept.
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I have a 1MB 200lx and a 20MB flash card.
Is there a software that would allow me to use a part (ie: 5MB) of my
flash card as ram, like all PCs do with virtual memory on a hard drive.
This should be faster than that kind of memory since the flash card can
transfer 8MB/sec.

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It is really not the right place on the *HPLX* mailing ist, so I send=
 it by
email.

> fact is is that many more people do not understand French than do=
 not
> understand English.  It is in the interest, in my opinion, of this=
 group
> that
> we speak English so that we can understand one another.  I am not

The author of the "offending" message asked about places to get a speed
upgrade in *France*. I am sure there are many more French speaking
people who are able to answer that question than there are English
speaking people.

> going to go into the social and political aspects of this, but most=
 people
> here speak English either as a first or second language and that we
> should speak here.

Are only "American people" people? For most Europeans, English is the
third or fourth language. For me, it is the fourth.

I guess your view is highly US-centric (and you are certainly less
US-centric than most Americans).

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Anyone know the best place to acquire an AC adapter for the 100?  I got mine
used and it did not have one.  I am sure I could buy one from HP for probably
around $20.

Ed Manuel

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> Date          Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:01:52 UT
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> From          p craig davis <p-craig-davis@MSN.COM>
> Subject       Re: WANTED! ---> Reading Netscape email on HP
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> I would like to read my email messages on my HP importing from Nestscape
> or Explorer.
> How can I do it?

i'm a Pegasus mail user
there is a version for dos, Win16 et Win 32
and it's possible to use the same data for the dos ,win16 and win32
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I'm looking for a 4 month trainning program.

I'm studying in system engineering which involved :
        Programming (Pascal, Delphi, C)
        Management (Stocks and Production lines)
        Automatisms
        Electronic


I'm french, I can speak english, spanish and I'm learning japanese.
I can start the trainning in april 1998 anywhere in the world.

I'm interested in field that involved high technologies & I have 2
significant working experience:

-Automobiles
Citroen (France) -the french BMW ;-)
-Notre Dame hospital (Canada) research departement (Digital image
processing-orthopedics)

For more information please contact me off the "HP mailing list ".
feel free to send this e-mail to any one who could be interested.

"The hardest thing to open ids a closed mind..."
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On that note, if you haven't input anything into the system yet, also pull
out the backup battery and depress the spacebar for about 30 secs to
totally drain everything. Install the AA's then the backup battery and
everything should be back to normal.

JR

At 12:46 PM 8/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I just bought a "new" 1 meg 200 that was a display model at Service
>Merchandise, and a pair of Energizers only last about 18 hours IN THE
>OFF MODE ! and I don't even have any pcmcia's installed. I called HP
>tech support 970-392-1001(the number in the manual is wrong) they said
>to take all the batteries out, and leave em out for at least 24 hours to
>drain the capacitors...??? Sounds strange to me, anyone heard of this
>before ? I'll let you know if it works tomorrow.
>
>
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Nothing from HP cost $20, try Radio Shuck!

At 06:10 PM 8/6/97 UT, you wrote:
>Anyone know the best place to acquire an AC adapter for the 100?  I got mine
>used and it did not have one.  I am sure I could buy one from HP for probably
>around $20.
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At 12:43 6/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>I have a 1MB 200lx and a 20MB flash card.
>Is there a software that would allow me to use a part (ie: 5MB) of my
>flash card as ram, like all PCs do with virtual memory on a hard drive.
>This should be faster than that kind of memory since the flash card can
>transfer 8MB/sec.

Sure. But only when reading. Writing takes much longer.

Regards. Nacho.

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Now, hold on.  I just bought the infamous "palmtop maintenance kit" and it was
20 bucks!  There's at least ONE item :-)

Ed

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Nothing from HP cost $20, try Radio Shuck!

At 06:10 PM 8/6/97 UT, you wrote:
>Anyone know the best place to acquire an AC adapter for the 100?  I got mine
>used and it did not have one.  I am sure I could buy one from HP for probably
>around $20.
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I was wondering if any of my fellow palmtoppers have found any golf games for
the HP-LX series.  I've looked, and haven't found anything, but I may have
just been looking in the wrong spots.  Thanks.

J.B. Raasch

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Try:


<underline>http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

</underline>

JR



At 06:21 PM 8/6/97 -0400, you wrote:

>I was wondering if any of my fellow palmtoppers have found any golf
games for

>the HP-LX series.  I've looked, and haven't found anything, but I may
have

>just been looking in the wrong spots.  Thanks.

>

>J.B. Raasch

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On some 95 and NT machines I can't get zip.com to work with my HP.  The COM
and addresses are correct but I keep getting <error> on the PC side (PC
side=client, palmtop=server).  Any ideas on how to fix this?  The IRQ for
COM1 (which I'm trying to use) is 4 which is pretty much standard.


...lars

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Subject:      Nettamer functions
Comments: cc: nettamer@cei.net

I have downloaded the Nettamer 1.09. for palmtop.
I have a few questions which i did not find answered
in the manuals:

1. How to disable Nettamer's calling of the "exact time server"?
   It wastes a precious time on every run of the Nettamer.

2. How to reset the "Total connection this month x h xx min"?
   I want to reset it to "0h 0min" after I change the batterries
   to see how long I was able to stay on line with the current
   set of batteries.

3. Is it possible to log the time of Nettamer sessions into a file?
   I want to get a log like this:

date-time            time-on-line
97-08-05 10:55:23    0:07.23
97-08-05 11:30:56    0:12.58

Thank you for assistance


Jan Sedlak <mail@port-home.com>
Portfolio Praha - http://www.port-home.com

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Comments: cc: sedlak@mbox.vol.cz

Message-ID: <19970806225715782.AAD199@Ý195.250.129.103¨>

Is there any possibility to use some driver to enable
the resident software to be loaded into "UMB" (upper
memory block) or into some other non conventional
memory?

I would like to free at least 100 KB of the convetional RAM
while keeping all the resident software.

Any suggestions welcome.

My current memory assignment:

  Name                Size in Decimal          Note
-------------      ---------------------   -------------
  MSDOS              26544      ( 25.9K)   dos
  KBUF128              544      (  0.5K)   expanded keyb buffer
  SMDRIVER           27776      ( 27.1K)   flash card driver
  JAM                33424      ( 32.6K)   disk compressor
  COMMAND             2672      (  2.6K)   dos
  CIC100              6880      (  6.7K)   modem enabler
  ASSIGN              1568      (  1.5K)   B:=G, E:=H:
  iPeX                1488      (  1.5K)   image driver
  BATTLOG             4080      (  4.0K)   battery checker
  KEYBEZ             18160      ( 17.7K)   czech kb driver
  FREE                  64      (  0.1K)
  FREE              527728      (515.4K)

Total  FREE :                           527792      (515.4K)
Largest executable program size :       527616      (515.3K)


Jan Sedlak <mail@port-home.com>
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Subject:      Re: Q: zip.com problems with NT or 95?
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You have to change transmission rate in system setting of the 95
or NT for the COM port.

Jens

> On some 95 and NT machines I can't get zip.com to work with my HP.  The COM
> and addresses are correct but I keep getting <error> on the PC side (PC
> side=client, palmtop=server).  Any ideas on how to fix this?  The IRQ for
> COM1 (which I'm trying to use) is 4 which is pretty much standard.
>
>
> ...lars
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Date:         Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:26:11 -0400
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From:         Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
Subject:      CD InfoBase On Non-Wintel?

Has anyone used the HP Palmtop Paper CD InfoBase on a Mac?  They show a
Windows-based browser in the ad.  I routinely read "foreign" CDROM's on
an SGI and a Mac, but if the articles themselves can only be read by
the browser, I'm out of luck.

                                -Jim.

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mdstockr wrote:
> Do you know if 700LX's (may have model no. wrong)
> are still available for vertical
> applications?

HP 700 is a story of its own. It is "GSM product".

BTW, we have discovered an internal bug (hardware conflict)
in HP 700. If interested in details, e-mail me.

Jan
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Jan,

If you have access to a full copy of DOS, get a copy of SUBST on your
flashcard. It replaces the ASSIGN command with the added benefit of using
no conventional memory (don't ask me how it works)...so it'll save you
1.5K.  SUBST should be on versions of DOS after 3.1 (I think).

You have a pretty full plate otherwise <g>.

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Port-Home wrote:
<snip>
>
> I would like to free at least 100 KB of the convetional RAM
> while keeping all the resident software.
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> My current memory assignment:
>
>   Name                Size in Decimal          Note
> -------------      ---------------------   -------------
>   MSDOS              26544      ( 25.9K)   dos
>   KBUF128              544      (  0.5K)   expanded keyb buffer
>   SMDRIVER           27776      ( 27.1K)   flash card driver
>   JAM                33424      ( 32.6K)   disk compressor
>   COMMAND             2672      (  2.6K)   dos
>   CIC100              6880      (  6.7K)   modem enabler
>   ASSIGN              1568      (  1.5K)   B:=G, E:=H:
>   iPeX                1488      (  1.5K)   image driver
>   BATTLOG             4080      (  4.0K)   battery checker
>   KEYBEZ             18160      ( 17.7K)   czech kb driver
>   FREE                  64      (  0.1K)
>   FREE              527728      (515.4K)
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Salut, je suis bresilen et habitant du Bresil.

Le modele' 200LX  2Mb est dispo pour la version Ame'ricain usage
(second hand) cirque de US 200-300 aux USA.

Il est en effet possible utiliser la version ame'ricaine pour la
accentuation latin avec le programme keyb.com DOS 5.0

Voici le mail que j'ai eu en retour d'un de grou de discussion:
comp.sys.palmtops

"I have an hp200lx (2meg)model for sale,comes with all the books
that comes with a new one.Unit is in excellent condition.$225"

"For sale, almost new HP 200 LX, 1 Meg version, with manual. Price:
$295."

"For Sale  HP200LX - 2 Meg with Apex 4 Meg  Flash ram / modem card 2
Meg SRAM card, AC adapter, Leather case,  RS-232 cable,  14.4 pocket
modem.  All items in like new condition, just over one year old but
light usage.  $525 + shipping or best reasonable offer. will consider
trade on HPC."

Si vous voulez un 320LX regardez

"Bought two machines 320LX for evaluation by two of my reps.  They
felt they were too big and too slow.  They decided to stay with their
200lx's. Past the 30 day return period so my loss is your gain.
Asking $525 each or $1000 for both."


salut

Eduardo Cesana
Ý¨s


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
mailto:ecesana@ax.apc.org
http://www.ecologica.com.br

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Subject:      Re: AC Adapter for HP100LX

I have an HP F1011A AC/DC adapter that runs 100-240v (brand new) I'll sell
for $25.

Gerry
San Francisco

BTW, your name sounds Filipino. Are you?

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Gerry Socco wrote:
>
> I have an HP F1011A AC/DC adapter that runs 100-240v (brand new) I'll sell
> for $25.
>
> Gerry
> San Francisco

Gerry, if your intended addressee doesn't take it, I'll give $20 and pay
shipping COD, if you'll consider it.

If so, you can mail to;

Knox D. Alford, Jr.
c/o Texas Gas Transmission Corp.
3800 Frederica Street
Owensboro, KY 42301

Advise me either way if you don't mind, as I am trying to locate one.

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I've used the Belt Holster for over 2 years now and have been quite happy
with it.  It has a long metal clip on the back and it's quite inexpensive.
It's from Educalc and is on their web page.

http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lxa.htm

Stock #3000 (The Belt Holster) $14.95

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Get the one called "The Ripoff". It has a belt CLIP, fits the 200LX
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and is built like military gear. The Pouch is made of neoprene (like a
wetsuit)
and does not seem as tough as the Ripoff.

Mitch

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> Has anyone used the HP Palmtop Paper CD InfoBase on a Mac?

I am rather certain that the reader will only run under Windows.
I still remember the discussions we had with Hal on CIS, when he said the CD
was going to be a propiatary format, not HTML, or acrobat...

Hopefully I am wrong and the newer copies (that I don't own) are a different format.

'lexu

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I find the tone of your message offensive. While that may not be the
intent, that is how it seems to me.  I have no objection to use of other
languages on the mailing list. Just because I do not speak a second or
third language does not mean that I am prejudice.

Stephen Souza
LAN Administration
757-322-3204
mailto:ssouza@exchg.cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto ÝSMTP:garzotto@ACTIVE.CH¨
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 3:48 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      FLUFF: Y-a-t-il des Francais ?
>
> It is really not the right place on the *HPLX* mailing ist, so I send
> it by
> email.
>
> > fact is is that many more people do not understand French than do
> not
> > understand English.  It is in the interest, in my opinion, of this
> group
> > that
> > we speak English so that we can understand one another.  I am not
>
> The author of the "offending" message asked about places to get a
> speed
> upgrade in *France*. I am sure there are many more French speaking
> people who are able to answer that question than there are English
> speaking people.
>
> > going to go into the social and political aspects of this, but most
> people
> > here speak English either as a first or second language and that we
> > should speak here.
>
> Are only "American people" people? For most Europeans, English is the
> third or fourth language. For me, it is the fourth.
>
> I guess your view is highly US-centric (and you are certainly less
> US-centric than most Americans).
>
> Andreas ÝD&A¨
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Souza, Mr Stephen would like to recall the message, "FLUFF: Y-a-t-il des
Francais ?".

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     Hello!

     Can you send me the diagram to?

     about the 10 pin hp connector i did not understand what you wrote. i
     tried to find such a connector but with no luck.


     Thanks Yehuda.




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Author:  MIME7:hyunspak@MOVI.COM.AR at INTERNET2
Date:    8/6/97 7:44 AM


Hi!

I have the diagram to make a transfer cable for HP.
If you want I can send to you in HTML form.

About the 10-pin HP connector I'm using 4-pin cdrom drive to sound card
cable in my desktop PC.

Regards.


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De: hunter god of gods! <whatshisname@RANDALL.FORCE9.NET>
A: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Asunto: pc - hp200 link cable?
Fecha: Lunes 4 de Agosto de 1997 5:52 PM

Hi,

Does anyone have a schematic / wiring diagram for a link lead???

I am trying not to pay #30+ uk pounds for a piece of wire!!



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Alexander Gutfeldt wrote:

> > Has anyone used the HP Palmtop Paper CD InfoBase on a Mac?
>
> I am rather certain that the reader will only run under Windows.
> I still remember the discussions we had with Hal on CIS, when he said the CD
> was going to be a propiatary format, not HTML, or acrobat...
>
> Hopefully I am wrong and the newer copies (that I don't own) are a different format.

You're not wrong.  The 1997 CD (which I'm pretty sure is the latest) runs on "HyperReader"
under Windows.  It's not a very good program, and there's not really anything that can be
done about it.  If it wasn't for the information that the CD provides, I wouldn't use it,
because of the HyperReader program.

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Subject:      Re: zip.com problems with NT or 95?
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I have used the ZIP program under NT, I found that the speed is limited.
In my case I had to slow it down to 57.6 K to get a connection. This is
due to how NT handles serial ports. Try starting at 9600 and working up
to find best speed on your system

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: larry soo ÝSMTP:lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 6:44 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Q: zip.com problems with NT or 95?
>
> On some 95 and NT machines I can't get zip.com to work with my HP.
> The COM
> and addresses are correct but I keep getting <error> on the PC side
> (PC
> side=client, palmtop=server).  Any ideas on how to fix this?  The IRQ
> for
> COM1 (which I'm trying to use) is 4 which is pretty much standard.
>
>
> ...lars
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From:         "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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In case there are any HP95 users still out there...

I was visiting a software liquidator over the weekend in San Luis Obispo
(Calif) and found 2 of the HP95-Lx Connectivity kits on the shelf. Made by
NuvaTech(sp?) and was selling for about $5-10.

I understand the pins differ from the 100/200 series or else I would have
bought it just for the cable.

If anyone is interested, the place was:

Software Outlet
2146 Parker St
SLO, CA
805-544-6616

They also had several copies of Allways(sp?), version 1.0...a 123
spreadsheet add-on. I bought one of those for kicks ($5 worth).

I also bought a copy of Print Vision, a print previewer. Anyone out there
use this before?.... to tell me if it's worth the time to try it out?

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: pc - hp200 link cable?

Hi!

I don't have the handbook at hand with the wireing information, sorry.

But as a 10pin Connector I used a connector for small harddisks. They
are in a 2mm spacing with 2 lines of I think 40 connections. I just
cut it to the right length, glued a plate beneth with resulted the right
hight for the opening in the palmtop and was also used to fix the cable
with a wirerap to the selfmade connector. After soldering I used a two
 component glue to fill the open spaces between the single wires. You
have to be carefull, not to fill the connector, too.
The cable works well at home for backup, but I also bought the original
cabel from HP for traveling. I couldnot find such a flexible wire
as HP used and so it is much more convenient for taking it with me.

The selfmade cable was DM20 and a lot of work, the original was DM49.
It was not worth the difference to search for a better cable.(Normaly
it is enough to have only 3 Wires, but I needed all Signals for a
application)

Hope this was a little help

Karsten

> From: J S <yernst@NDC.CO.IL>
> Subject:      Re: pc - hp200 link cable?
> Comments: To: hyunspak@MOVI.COM.AR
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
>      Hello!
>
>      Can you send me the diagram to?
>
>      about the 10 pin hp connector i did not understand what you wrote. i
>      tried to find such a connector but with no luck.
>
>
>      Thanks Yehuda.

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> I find the tone of your message offensive. While that may not be the

Sorry! It was an operator error. I intended to send it to Ian Butler=
 by
private email but accidently sent it to the list.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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My apologies, I also meant to send personal not via mailing list. Guess
I need to slow down and check setting before hitting send.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto ÝSMTP:garzotto@ACTIVE.CH¨
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 1997 12:50 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Y-a-t-il des Francais ?
>
> > I find the tone of your message offensive. While that may not be the
>
> Sorry! It was an operator error. I intended to send it to Ian Butler
> by
> private email but accidently sent it to the list.
>
>

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On 6 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> I want to get a belt pouch for my 200 and see that EduCalc has two:
>
> - which has a belt CLIP rather than a belt LOOP.  What I'm looking
>   for is something that is secure on a belt but can be removed without
>   removing the belt

'The Pouch' has a clip that allows it to be removed with the belt still=
 in
place. NSW's page has a good picture of it.

> - they both seem to have some sort of Velcro strap to keep the HP
>   from falling out.  Is that accurate?  Is the strap just a strip
>   of Velcro or is is Velcro mounted on a bit of whatever the case
>   is made of?

'The Pouch' features an extension of the belt clip that comes over the=
 top
of the case and keeps the palmtop from falling out. It fastens with=
 a bit
of velcro. It also has a pocket at the back that perfectly fits a PC=
 card
case.

E&B also makes a handsome leather case specifically for the HP Palmtops
which attaches to your belt and fully encloses the 200LX. This model=
 cannot
be removed without first removing the belt however and includes no pockets.=


Regards,
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Cellular-Compatible Modem for 200LX?
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I've been experimenting with a wireless communications solution for my 200.
 I recently picked up a Megahertz Allpoints card, and while it works great,
the service isn't cheap.  I have a Nokia 2120 dual mode phone, and I was
wondering if anyone out there knows of a cellular compatible modem that'll
work on the 200 and my Nokia.  I also have a Megahertz cell phone modem
(28.8), but is draws too much current to work in the 200.

Thanks,
Bill Childers




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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 07 Aug 1997 13:00:11 EDT."
              <HPLX-L%97080713001108@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>

Ian Melville wrote:

> 'The Pouch' features an extension of the belt clip that comes over the
> top of the case and keeps the palmtop from falling out. It fastens with
> a bit of velcro. It also has a pocket at the back that perfectly fits a
> PC card case.

Actually, The Pouch now features a full flap, with full-width Velcro
closure.  NSW has been shipping the new version for at least a month.
It still has the

> 'The Pouch' has a clip that allows it to be removed with the belt still
> in place. NSW's page has a good picture of it.

This feature they retained.  As near as I can tell, the clip unsnaps to
mate with the shoulder strap.

                                -Jim.

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Me too

I remember an old CGA golf game called mean 18 but I cannot find a
copy I am sure this should play on the HP.

Anyone know if a freeware version is available?

R


> I was wondering if any of my fellow palmtoppers have found any golf games for
> the HP-LX series.  I've looked, and haven't found anything, but I may have
> just been looking in the wrong spots.  Thanks.
>
> J.B. Raasch
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Subject:      Re: Cellular-Compatible Modem for 200LX?
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:00:03 PDT."
              <3.0.3.32.19970807100003.0099c470@garlic.com>

> I've been experimenting with a wireless communications solution for my 200.
>  I recently picked up a Megahertz Allpoints card, and while it works great,
> the service isn't cheap.  I have a Nokia 2120 dual mode phone, and I was
> wondering if anyone out there knows of a cellular compatible modem that'll
> work on the 200 and my Nokia.  I also have a Megahertz cell phone modem
> (28.8), but is draws too much current to work in the 200.

Apex Data (http://www.apexdata.com/) makes 14.4 and 28.8
cell-compatible modems that draw sufficiently low current to work with
the palmtop.  They even placed a press rlease with the Palmtop Paper,
the issue before last, and make a combo flash/modem for the 200LX, so
they know the machine.

I've successfully used their 14.4 over a landline.  They offer cables
for connection to a limited number of phones.  My phone isn't among
them so I haven't tried it's cellular capability.  I couldn't find the
phone compatibility list on Apex Data's site, but Supplynet
(http://www.thesupplynet.com/) lists Apex Data cables for the Nokia
2120, as well as the usual Ericsson, Motorola, NEC, Oki and Sony
models.

                                -Jim.

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Hi!

Because the attached files would be great help to all hp users, I4m
sending this one despite don't must send files to this listserv.
This file is about making the hp cable.

Please, this file is copyright from Craig Peacock.

Sorry

Regards..

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<h1><br>Serial Port Pinout</h1><br>
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<h3>Information from Craig Peacock</h3>
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Here's the pin-out for the serial port, looking at the port from
outside the product (OmniGo 100):
<P>
<CENTER><IMG SRC="pinouts.gif" ALT="pin-out diagram">
<p>
<table border>
<tr><td>Pin</td><td>Function</td></tr>
<tr><td align=center>2</td><td align=center>RX</td></tr>
<tr><td align=center>3</td><td align=center>TX</td></tr>
<tr><td align=center>7</td><td align=center>RTS</td></tr>
<tr><td align=center>8</td><td align=center>CTS</td></tr>
<tr><td align=center>5, 10</td><td align=center>GND</td></tr>
</table>
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<P>
Other pins not connected.

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        It's not $20, but the genuine HP AC adaptor does handle multiple
voltages: 100-to-240 I think, and the prongs do fold in to make it friendly
to clothing when packed for travel. HP does give you value for your money.
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At 02:30 PM 8/7/97 -0300, you wrote:
>Hi!  Because the attached files would be great help to all hp users, I4m
>sending this one despite don't must send files to this listserv. This file
>is about making the hp cable.  Please, this file is copyright from Craig
>Peacock.  Sorry  Regards..
>Serial Port Pinout
>

Hello
  Isnt this documented clearly in the manual?  Why are we doing the binary
thing again???  And Iam sure there are going to be a zillion mails that
complain about binary stuff.  Also, how did this get through the > xxx
lines filter on the majordomo?

Vivek

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Has anyone tried running Quarterdeck's DESQview on the 200LX?

I tried it, but couldn't get the System Manager to run inside
DESQview.

What I want to do is run the SM inside a big DOS partition, so I could
have a "normal" LX in addition to one or more DOS apps loaded.  I'm not
as interested in the multitasking as I am in having multiple apps
loaded.

I know there are other products out there, I'm specifically asking
about DESQview because that's what's on my desk right now.

TIA
Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

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On 6 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> Is there any possibility to use some driver to enable
> the resident software to be loaded into "UMB" (upper
> memory block) or into some other non conventional
> memory?

The upper memory area consists of the 384K just above 640K (and before=
 1Mb)
and its the divisions of that area that are referred to as the UMB's.
Unfortunately MS-DOS progs and processors incapable of running in protected=

mode cannot address it. That includes our darling 200LX :-(

Your next best bet is EMS (expanded memory) which will run on *any*=
 MS-DOS
computer regardless of processor - however unless your program/s were
written to take advantage of EMS then you're stuck with the conventional
stuff <g>. EMM200 is available for use with the 200LX and you may find=
 it
at www.palmtop.net/super.html

Regards,
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On 6 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> 1. How to disable Nettamer's calling of the "exact time server"?
>    It wastes a precious time on every run of the Nettamer.

I have asked Uncle Dave this very question and unfortunately there is=
 no
way to stop it :-(  However hitting ÝEsc¨ while it looks up the time
server aborts that operation and goes straight to email, news etc..=
 BTW: I
agree with you in that it really does waste time especially when the=
 time
server takes a while to respond!

> 2. How to reset the "Total connection this month x h xx min"?
>    I want to reset it to "0h 0min" after I change the batterries
>    to see how long I was able to stay on line with the current
>    set of batteries.

Again this can't be done AFAIK - short of deleting the *.def files and
re-running your user setup :-(

> 3. Is it possible to log the time of Nettamer sessions into a file?
>    I want to get a log like this:

You will need Post/LX to accomplish this one ;-)

Regards,


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I have access to a largish (about 30+) "PhoneWorks To Go!" 14.4
Fax/Data/Voice PC Cards and am wondering if they work ok in the 200?
The manual says that it uses 600 mW typical but don't mention mA.
Since I am not sure what the voltage is for the card (3? 5?) I am
not sure what the current is.  If it is 5, then it is 120mA and I'm
a happy guy.  If it is 3, then it is 200mA and I'm not so happy.

Anyone use one of these with an HP200??  Are they battery eaters?

jaime
--
Jaime A. Viehweg     |  Lucent Technologies
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Subject:      arabic language sofware/jam for exp

brand new to the list and am amazed at the breadth of expertise present.
perhaps someone can tell me if arabic language software is available for the
hp200?  i am looking for a dictionary and  vocabulary building software.
secondly, i have 5 and 10 mb sundisks and the 2mb exp fax/modem card.  does JAM
work okay on these devices?  And will it be affected by a the times2 tech memory
and speed upgrades.
thanks in advance.
tom

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> Because the attached files would be great help to all hp users, I4m
> sending this one despite don't must send files to this listserv.
> This file is about making the hp cable.

I personally had no use for this diagram and suspect several others=
 are in
the same position. Please desist from sending binaries of *any* kind=
 to the
list.

It will require a well-serviced crystal ball to determine what is required=

by ALL hp users!

Regards,


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Subject:      Re: AC Adapter for HP100LX

It's yours for $25, you pay for shipping.
Send payment to:

Gerry Socco
c/o California Academy of Sciences
Golden Gate Park, San Francisco
CA 94118

my work No: 415.750.7065
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I have temporarily suspended posting privileges of the list subscriber=

who posted the binary file.

        'NUFF SAID !

(Please address your comments on this action to me personally, not to
the list!)

Cheers,







*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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              <19970807162633.05398@gv107.ih.lucent.com>

Jaime Viehweg wrote:

> I have access to a largish (about 30+) "PhoneWorks To Go!" 14.4
> Fax/Data/Voice PC Cards and am wondering if they work ok in the 200?
> The manual says that it uses 600 mW typical but don't mention mA.
> Since I am not sure what the voltage is for the card (3? 5?) I am
> not sure what the current is.  If it is 5, then it is 120mA and I'm
> a happy guy.  If it is 3, then it is 200mA and I'm not so happy.

The manufacturer, Connectware, has a web page is at:

    http://www.connectware.com/

They (or at least their web site) appear to have moved on to ATM
networking hardware, but they do have a few Win95 support files for the
card, and their tech. support department (support@connectware.com)
might be able to help.

                                -Jim.

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Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile Win
200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great program. Any
othe comments?

JR

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Entente translator can do Arabic and all sorts of other languages. It works
very well on HP. Just search the net for entente.

MIkhail

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: arabic language sofware/jam for exp
> Date: August 7, 1997 5:42 PM
>
> brand new to the list and am amazed at the breadth of expertise present.
> perhaps someone can tell me if arabic language software is available for
the
> hp200?  i am looking for a dictionary and  vocabulary building software.
> secondly, i have 5 and 10 mb sundisks and the 2mb exp fax/modem card.
does JAM
> work okay on these devices?  And will it be affected by a the times2 tech
memory
> and speed upgrades.
> thanks in advance.
> tom
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Works great and the price is right - FREE!

Currently available at HP's website for download.

--- On Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:25:09 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:

>Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile Win
>200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great program. Any
>othe comments?
>
>JR
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I just spoke to Jerzy, the designer of the TransPC and (I believe)
principal of Transdigital.  He's very friendly and knowledgeable, and
understands the 200LX.  I called to ask if he knew of specific
parallel-to-SCSI converters that people had used with the TransPC.  He
responded that some customers in Germany had used a Trantor (now
Adaptec) converter, but he deals very little with SCSI.

In the course of the conversation, he mentioned that they are in the
process of relocating the business to Sacramento.  Their new phone
numbers will be:

    916-482-5599 voice
    916-482-5598 fax

They're still accepting calls at their old number (510-745-9777).
Their inventory is all packed for the move, but they're accepting
orders, for shipment on Tuesday.

                                -Jim.

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I am interested in updating my HP95LX, such as, the current DOS version and
connectivity software that works with Windows95, etc.  Is this stuff still
available?  Thanks in advance!

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Ý Sending again with a more suitable Subject line, for the benefit of
  archive browsers. ¨

I just spoke to Jerzy, the designer of the TransPC and (I believe)
principal of Transdigital.  He's very friendly and knowledgeable, and
understands the 200LX.  I called to ask if he knew of specific
parallel-to-SCSI converters that people had used with the TransPC.  He
responded that some customers in Germany had used a Trantor (now
Adaptec) converter, but he deals very little with SCSI.

In the course of the conversation, he mentioned that they are in the
process of relocating the business to Sacramento.  Their new phone
numbers will be:

    916-482-5599 voice
    916-482-5598 fax

They're still accepting calls at their old number (510-745-9777).
Their inventory is all packed for the move, but they're accepting
orders, for shipment on Tuesday.

                                -Jim.

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A friend of mine whom I can't get a in touch with, busy corp. type, told me
he was running his phonebook on the pc card as it was getting too slow to
find contacts using it in main memory. Said "finds" are fast on the flash
card.

Any ideas?

JR

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John Ramos wrote:

> A friend of mine whom I can't get a in touch with, busy corp. type, told me
> he was running his phonebook on the pc card as it was getting too slow to
> find contacts using it in main memory. Said "finds" are fast on the flash
> card.
>
> Any ideas?

Oddly enough, I noticed something along these lines using GPSCGA 2.0.  Searching for my
home city, or an airport, was slow on my flash card, so I copied the files over to the C:
drive and tried again.  It took probably 50% longer!  Search speed is better in version
2.7, and I haven't tried copying it onto the ram drive, but still, it seems kind of odd to
me....

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I think it means that the "RAM" is slower than the pc card speed and most
are around 200ns to 240 ns with some of the newer ones being faster I guess.

JR

At 07:07 PM 8/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>John Ramos wrote:
>
>> A friend of mine whom I can't get a in touch with, busy corp. type, told me
>> he was running his phonebook on the pc card as it was getting too slow to
>> find contacts using it in main memory. Said "finds" are fast on the flash
>> card.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>Oddly enough, I noticed something along these lines using GPSCGA 2.0.
Searching for my
>home city, or an airport, was slow on my flash card, so I copied the files
over to the C:
>drive and tried again.  It took probably 50% longer!  Search speed is
better in version
>2.7, and I haven't tried copying it onto the ram drive, but still, it
seems kind of odd to
>me....
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John Ramos wrote:

> I think it means that the "RAM" is slower than the pc card speed and most
> are around 200ns to 240 ns with some of the newer ones being faster I guess.

I thought that the RAM on the C: drive was SRAM, which is usually much faster than DRAM.
Anybody have any details on this?

I know that flash RAM is pretty speedy at reading, but usually much slower at reads-- say,
around 400k/sec tops.  The new power-sucking 3x flash cards from Microtech speed this up
to about 1.2MB/sec write speed, but don't improve on the reading speed.  Perhaps somebody
should run a benchmark comparing 200LX performance in writes and reads to a flash card
versus writes and reads to the C: drive.

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I don't know, I think the proof is in the speed at running the apps. Try it
yourself, from the card, from ram.

JR


At 08:59 PM 8/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>John Ramos wrote:
>
>> I think it means that the "RAM" is slower than the pc card speed and most
>> are around 200ns to 240 ns with some of the newer ones being faster I
guess.
>
>I thought that the RAM on the C: drive was SRAM, which is usually much
faster than DRAM.
>Anybody have any details on this?
>
>I know that flash RAM is pretty speedy at reading, but usually much slower
at reads-- say,
>around 400k/sec tops.  The new power-sucking 3x flash cards from Microtech
speed this up
>to about 1.2MB/sec write speed, but don't improve on the reading speed.
Perhaps somebody
>should run a benchmark comparing 200LX performance in writes and reads to
a flash card
>versus writes and reads to the C: drive.
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John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:

>Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile Win
>200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great program. Any
>other comments?

John, I'm happy to hear you admit out loud, albeit indirectly, that you use
MS Windows. Me, too.

I received TF by divine providence in the binary-receptive days of yore.
True, it's not at all bad. But zip.com seems quicker and easier (for my
purposes). And I can use it whether I'm in pure DOS or a DOS window. Now
that's a great program!


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Subject:      palmconnect support, lack thereof

dear list members.
i am unable to get any support from palm computing.  a copy of my original
posting
 is below.    i got a reply from usrobotics which i guess owns palm co. now.
managed to get two answers from a larry and a jeff at usr but they won't reply
and both said a senior tech would contact me.  as you
can see from the date of the msg below,  this is getting a little long in tooth
even for crappy support.  can someone steer me out of the haze please?  thanks,
tom

DATE:   6/5/97 21:40
Re:     Copy of: req for support
i finally installed my pamconnect software for my hp200lx and it presents the
following msg after it finds only 46 files:
"error scanning files on palmtop"
there is no ref to this stmnt in your handbook.  how do i get palmconnect to
work properly?
thanks very much,
tom nemeth

ps pls update my user address to:
Damascus, Dept of State
Washington, DC 20521-6110

formerly i was at us embassy cairo, APO AE 09839.
thanks!

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At 06:02 AM 8/8/97 GMT, you wrote:
>True, it's not at all bad. But zip.com seems quicker and easier (for my
>purposes). And I can use it whether I'm in pure DOS or a DOS window. Now
>that's a great program!

I tried zip.com, had trouble with it; didn't persue it, but I don't think
it liked to
copy my password protected files.


John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
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At 16:51 7/08/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On 6 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:
>
>> Is there any possibility to use some driver to enable
>> the resident software to be loaded into "UMB" (upper
>> memory block) or into some other non conventional
>> memory?
>
>The upper memory area consists of the 384K just above 640K (and before 1Mb)
>and its the divisions of that area that are referred to as the UMB's.
>Unfortunately MS-DOS progs and processors incapable of running in protected
>mode cannot address it. That includes our darling 200LX :-(

They can. But only if hardware maps memory to those addresses. What happens
with protected mode capable processors, is that even if hardware is not
able to map memory at those addresses, the processor memory management unit
can do it in protected mode.

Since our 200LX is a 80186 machine, it has only a 1MB addressing space.
Lower 640K are for DOS and applications. The last 64KB are for BIOS, and in
between there is the display memory. The rest is used for several purposes,
one of them is memory paging in order to access the rest of the RAM as
drive C:.

Since I haven't got the hardware information about HP200LX, I just don't
know if the hornet chip is able to map ram into the rest of upper free
space (this is, excluiding BIOS, display memory and paging for drives C:
and D:) in order to turn it into UMBs.

Maybe I'll but the SDK, which I believe contains such information. If if
finally do it, one of the things I plan is to provide some UMB support for
the HP200LX.

Regards, Nacho.

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The C drive on the HP is DRAM, I know this is unusual but it is true.

The Sandisk cards, newer ones at least have a write of around 400kB/s
and will read at 1MB/s the deal here I guess is how fast is the HP
PCMCIA implementation ?

Sandisk do an unsupported utitlity called SETPWR which allows you to
program the peak power of the card which trades this with performance
they also do a number of other utils for measuring hot count etc as
well as setting cluster size. I have these but do not use them I am
not sure if I can post them I will check

R

> John Ramos wrote:
>
> > I think it means that the "RAM" is slower than the pc card speed and most
> > are around 200ns to 240 ns with some of the newer ones being faster I guess.
>
> I thought that the RAM on the C: drive was SRAM, which is usually much faster than DRAM.
> Anybody have any details on this?
>
> I know that flash RAM is pretty speedy at reading, but usually much slower at reads-- say,
> around 400k/sec tops.  The new power-sucking 3x flash cards from Microtech speed this up
> to about 1.2MB/sec write speed, but don't improve on the reading speed.  Perhaps somebody
> should run a benchmark comparing 200LX performance in writes and reads to a flash card
> versus writes and reads to the C: drive.
>
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On 8 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> i am unable to get any support from palm computing.  a copy of my=
 original
> posting  is below.
> i finally installed my pamconnect software for my hp200lx and it presents=
 the
> following msg after it finds only 46 files:
> "error scanning files on palmtop"

Tom you didn't mention if you're running the software under win95 or
win3.x. If you're trying it under win95 then it won't work :-(  My guess=
 is
that since you have reached the point of scanning the palmtop then it=
 must
be a config problem?

I have used the software under win3.x and it ran well - I was a bit
disappointed in a few aspects of the program that I felt were too limiting=

one of which being no support for database (gdb) files also long entries
in some fields of phonebook are truncated during the merge/translate
routines. So beware...

Regards,


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I use Tfwin200 (ver 1.0.3.) on this PC, a Compaq 5100 (weird95), it
works very well and I would recommend it to anyone.  Another "goodie" is
Puma Technology's IntelliSync for the HP200LX.  Both pieces of software
while different in purpose and "look and feel" are great examples of the
support behind the HPX00LX series of computers.

>----------
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>Sent:  Thursday, August 07, 1997 6:25 PM
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>Subject:       Transfile Win 200
>
>Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile Win
>200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great program. Any
>othe comments?
>
>JR
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I've noticed this effect also, I thought that it was just me. I have a
clock speed mod on my '200. I'm using an OLD IBM 10MB flash RAM card.
I have access to some other cards, I'll time them and post the
results.
-Bryan



John Ramos wrote:
>
> I don't know, I think the proof is in the speed at running the apps. Try it
> yourself, from the card, from ram.
>
> JR
>
> At 08:59 PM 8/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >John Ramos wrote:
> >
> >> I think it means that the "RAM" is slower than the pc card speed and most
> >> are around 200ns to 240 ns with some of the newer ones being faster I
> guess.
> >
> >I thought that the RAM on the C: drive was SRAM, which is usually much
> faster than DRAM.
> >Anybody have any details on this?
> >
> >I know that flash RAM is pretty speedy at reading, but usually much slower
> at reads-- say,
> >around 400k/sec tops.  The new power-sucking 3x flash cards from Microtech
> speed this up
> >to about 1.2MB/sec write speed, but don't improve on the reading speed.
> Perhaps somebody
> >should run a benchmark comparing 200LX performance in writes and reads to
> a flash card
> >versus writes and reads to the C: drive.
> >
>

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What does intelliSync do and what is the latest version? I think I checked
it out on Puma's Web and couldn't figure it out, just the price. Thanks.

JR


At 09:46 AM 8/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I use Tfwin200 (ver 1.0.3.) on this PC, a Compaq 5100 (weird95), it
>works very well and I would recommend it to anyone.  Another "goodie" is
>Puma Technology's IntelliSync for the HP200LX.  Both pieces of software
>while different in purpose and "look and feel" are great examples of the
>support behind the HPX00LX series of computers.
>
>>----------
>>From:  John RamosÝSMTP:MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET¨
>>Sent:  Thursday, August 07, 1997 6:25 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:       Transfile Win 200
>>
>>Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile Win
>>200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great program. Any
>>othe comments?
>>
>>JR
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Intellisync is suppose to sync the contents of HP200 phone book and
appointment book with a personal information manager
(Lotus Organizer, etc..) and transfer other files to and from a pc.
Intellisync can not work with Outlook because Outlook is a 32 bit app.
This is the answer I keep getting from Puma.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Ramos ÝSMTP:MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 1997 11:00 AM
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> Subject:      Re: Transfile Win 200
> Importance:   High
>
> What does intelliSync do and what is the latest version? I think I
> checked
> it out on Puma's Web and couldn't figure it out, just the price.
> Thanks.
>
> JR
>
>
> At 09:46 AM 8/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >I use Tfwin200 (ver 1.0.3.) on this PC, a Compaq 5100 (weird95), it
> >works very well and I would recommend it to anyone.  Another "goodie"
> is
> >Puma Technology's IntelliSync for the HP200LX.  Both pieces of
> software
> >while different in purpose and "look and feel" are great examples of
> the
> >support behind the HPX00LX series of computers.
> >
> >>----------
> >>From:  John RamosÝSMTP:MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET¨
> >>Sent:  Thursday, August 07, 1997 6:25 PM
> >>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >>Subject:       Transfile Win 200
> >>
> >>Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile
> Win
> >>200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great
> program. Any
> >>othe comments?
> >>
> >>JR
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IntelliSync will transfer files, but it's main function is to
synchronize applications that run in different computers and need to
access the same "database" of information.  The best example is
Schedule+ (win95) and the Appointment Book in the HP.  Example: I wander
around using my palmtop while no where near my company's network.  I
receive appointments and stuff from my manager via Schedule's ability to
"share" schedules with others in a workgroup.  By using IntelliSync, I
can bring the schedule information from Schedule+ into my palmtop for
reference through out the day.  I can also make "on the fly" changes to
my future plans that after an IntelliSync session are available to my
managers.

IntelliSync is good.  It can handle customized phone books (phone.pdb
modified as a .gdb file).  It will allow "collision" management between
conflicting appointments.  It has full system (HP to PC) backup support.
 It will (I don't use this much) sync your "to do" lists, database
files, and your phone book.  It is very well supported by a (now the
following statement is unusual, I admit) intelligent, thoughtful, and
knowledgeable tech staff.  But it's not cheep. :)

Phil

>
>What does intelliSync do and what is the latest version? I think I checked
>it out on Puma's Web and couldn't figure it out, just the price. Thanks.
>
>JR
>
>
>At 09:46 AM 8/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>I use Tfwin200 (ver 1.0.3.) on this PC, a Compaq 5100 (weird95), it
>>works very well and I would recommend it to anyone.  Another "goodie" is
>>Puma Technology's IntelliSync for the HP200LX.  Both pieces of software
>>while different in purpose and "look and feel" are great examples of the
>>support behind the HPX00LX series of computers.
>>
>

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John Ramos wrote:
>
> What does intelliSync do and what is the latest version? I think I checked
> it out on Puma's Web and couldn't figure it out, just the price. Thanks.

I have IntelliSync.  It allows you to synchronize the 200LX Appt. Book,
Phone Book, Note Taker and Database applications with Windows apps on
the desktop.  Field mapping is used to accomplish this.  You can also
import and export data using IntelliSync.  I have not used it
extensively yet but it seems to work ok.  No setup problems.

Jim

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I think I got my copy from HP's web page.

>From:  John RamosÝSMTP:MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET¨
>Sent:  Thursday, August 07, 1997 6:25 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Transfile Win 200
>
>  Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile
>Win200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great program.
>Any other comments?
>
>JR

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On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, David Sargeant wrote:

> I know that flash RAM is pretty speedy at reading, but usually much slower at reads-- say,
> around 400k/sec tops.  The new power-sucking 3x flash cards from Microtech speed this up
> to about 1.2MB/sec write speed, but don't improve on the reading speed.  Perhaps somebody
> should run a benchmark comparing 200LX performance in writes and reads to a flash card
> versus writes and reads to the C: drive.

Ask and ye shall receive.  Following test was done on a clock-doubled
200lx w/6mb ram (3.5mb free)

- Flash card is a 20mb Kingston w/ 5.5mb free.
- GDB file was defragmented prior to the test.
- results were consistent for 3 test runs

Time to search a 364k .gdb for a text string:
Flash: 18 sec
RAM  : 27 sec

Flash wins in database searching (as David reported).

Next test was a generic read/write speed check. The test uses a batch file
to repeatedly copy a 100k file 10 times and notes the start/end times.

I can post the batch file if anyone is interested (its about 15 lines
long). I constructed the test file using a text editor. Timing was done
using the DOS TIME command.

- test was repeated 3 times and results were consistent in each test.

Times:
Flash: 9 sec
RAM  : 3.5 sec

RAM wins in generic read/write, so flash performance (over RAM) isn't a
given in all cases.

My guess is that HP's database apps (ADB,NDB,PDB,GDB) use database
techniques of buffering and pointers that may be affected by the cluster
size of the storage media (in terms of performance).

- Longden

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If I improve the ram of my palmtop from 1 to 4 or 8 MB
does this mean that i will have 8 MB of ram like on a normal computer
or that i will have 640ko of memory and the rest of disk?

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Subject:      Re: Transfile Win 200

Text of message from JIMS@SMITHCHARTER.COM, 8 Aug 1997, 11:18 AM
> John Ramos wrote:
> >
> > What does intelliSync do and what is the latest version? I think I
> > checked it out on Puma's Web and couldn't figure it out, just the
> > price. Thanks.
>
> I have IntelliSync.  It allows you to synchronize the 200LX Appt. Book,
> Phone Book, Note Taker and Database applications with Windows apps on
> the desktop.  Field mapping is used to accomplish this.  You can also
> import and export data using IntelliSync.  I have not used it
> extensively yet but it seems to work ok.  No setup problems.

Does anyone know if it syncs with Lotus Notes scheduler?

- Danny

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You have to remember that the 200LX is an PC (XT) with flash, 640 is all
you get without an EMM drives (that works), still don't know which is the
best.

Any comments on EMM drivers....a rock solid one that works?

JR


At 08:30 AM 8/8/97 PDT, you wrote:
>If I improve the ram of my palmtop from 1 to 4 or 8 MB
>does this mean that i will have 8 MB of ram like on a normal computer
>or that i will have 640ko of memory and the rest of disk?
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OK, I did a few timings, and on my machine, the "flash is faster" theory
didn't
hold up. I timed searching a 3MB file for a text string...

C: (internal RAM)               - 21.1 sec
PNY 4MB  compact flash          - 23.2 sec
IBM 10MB flash file (sandisk)   - 25.6 sec
IBM 10MB flash file (fragmented)- 25.5 sec
PNY 8MB compact flash           - 23.1 sec

The second IBM flash card is my regular A: drive, and it had 7MB of
files on it
and I've never defragmented it. The extra files didn't make any
difference in
the timing, as might be suspected since the media is all solid state.
CHKDSK
showed that my test file was in 28 fragments on that drive.

Of course, the write times for flash are a lot longer too.

Be neat if someone were to write a small program that would time the
transfer
rate of drives on the HP by reading sectors; then we could compare vs.
flash cards. Probably such a thing already exists!

-Bryan

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I'm still bewilderred (and so is HP tech support apparently) with an
"inconsistent" error: "Cannot read disc".

It seems to occur mostly after adding, editing, or appending a "Note"
field in "Apptbook" and "Phone" records.

I just recently up-graded to a 2MB 200LX, from my original 1MB 200LX,
and STILL GET THE ERROR !!!

I'm using an EXP ThinFax 1414 LXM card (4MB)... and loosing patience
rapidly.  I love the 200LX, and don't readily blame the hardware, as EXP
has good enough to replace the card once, and HP has been trying to
help from their end, but the random error persists. ;o(

I've run "garlic" on both databases, several times to no avail.  The
ONLY thing I didn't do was to use the /V (I think it was) to delete
"sub-sets"...

This morning, for the first time, I even got an error when "Reminder"
tried to run, saying "It could not open file", whether it is relevant or
not, I don't know....

With all the users, and all the knowledge out there about this
wonderfull little computer, can any of the brethren help?

Very sincerely,
Denny Alford

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One note on Flash memory cards, there are a very few manufacturers of flash
memory. Maybe count them on 1-2 hands, maybe a couple of toes. Microtech
doesn't make anything themselves. Most of the "Name Brand" cards are
actually made by one of the few manufacturers. I have a Microtech 40 made
in Japan by IBM? It gets very grey as to who makes what.



At 08:25 AM 8/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, David Sargeant wrote:
>
>> I know that flash RAM is pretty speedy at reading, but usually much
slower at reads-- say,
>> around 400k/sec tops.  The new power-sucking 3x flash cards from
Microtech speed this up
>> to about 1.2MB/sec write speed, but don't improve on the reading speed.
Perhaps somebody
>> should run a benchmark comparing 200LX performance in writes and reads
to a flash card
>> versus writes and reads to the C: drive.
>
>Ask and ye shall receive.  Following test was done on a clock-doubled
>200lx w/6mb ram (3.5mb free)
>
>- Flash card is a 20mb Kingston w/ 5.5mb free.
>- GDB file was defragmented prior to the test.
>- results were consistent for 3 test runs
>
>Time to search a 364k .gdb for a text string:
>Flash: 18 sec
>RAM  : 27 sec
>
>Flash wins in database searching (as David reported).
>
>Next test was a generic read/write speed check. The test uses a batch file
>to repeatedly copy a 100k file 10 times and notes the start/end times.
>
>I can post the batch file if anyone is interested (its about 15 lines
>long). I constructed the test file using a text editor. Timing was done
>using the DOS TIME command.
>
>- test was repeated 3 times and results were consistent in each test.
>
>Times:
>Flash: 9 sec
>RAM  : 3.5 sec
>
>RAM wins in generic read/write, so flash performance (over RAM) isn't a
>given in all cases.
>
>My guess is that HP's database apps (ADB,NDB,PDB,GDB) use database
>techniques of buffering and pointers that may be affected by the cluster
>size of the storage media (in terms of performance).
>
>- Longden
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I guess I'm confused, I got a file called "Newphone2" with a suffix.pdb,
tried to load it on the LX200 and Transfile said it was the wrong file
type. The Phone file has the same suffix, do I have to rename it (suffix)?
This program has "email" and other such nice additions to Phone DB

JR

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> > I've been experimenting with a wireless communications solution for my 200.
> >  I recently picked up a Megahertz Allpoints card, and while it works great,
> > the service isn't cheap.  I have a Nokia 2120 dual mode phone, and I was
> > wondering if anyone out there knows of a cellular compatible modem that'll
> > work on the 200 and my Nokia.  I also have a Megahertz cell phone modem
> > (28.8), but is draws too much current to work in the 200.
>
> Apex Data (http://www.apexdata.com/) makes 14.4 and 28.8
> cell-compatible modems that draw sufficiently low current to work with
> the palmtop.  They even placed a press rlease with the Palmtop Paper,
> the issue before last, and make a combo flash/modem for the 200LX, so
> they know the machine.
>
> I've successfully used their 14.4 over a landline.  They offer cables
> for connection to a limited number of phones.  My phone isn't among
> them so I haven't tried it's cellular capability.  I couldn't find the
> phone compatibility list on Apex Data's site, but Supplynet
> (http://www.thesupplynet.com/) lists Apex Data cables for the Nokia
> 2120, as well as the usual Ericsson, Motorola, NEC, Oki and Sony
> models.

EXP is advertising a family of 33.6 modem/flash cards for use with Windows
CE that are claimed to have cellular compatibility and 180mA at 5V
power consumption (just over the HP spec).

See http://208.202.146.100/product.nsf

The modems also include an external power pack (using 2 AAs) which can
be used to extend battery life and have standby power consumption of
14mA.  The flash memory capacities are 0/4/8/16 MB.

Does anyone on the list know whether these modems will work with
the 200LX?

Regards,

Rich

P.S. I only saw Motorola cables on the EXP site.  I have a Nokia 2160 so
I'm concerned about Nokia connectivity as well.

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Do you have access to another card to try. Qucik and dirty test. Maybe the
program is trying to load from the wrong drive?

JR


At 11:17 AM 8/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm still bewilderred (and so is HP tech support apparently) with an
>"inconsistent" error: "Cannot read disc".
>
>It seems to occur mostly after adding, editing, or appending a "Note"
>field in "Apptbook" and "Phone" records.
>
>I just recently up-graded to a 2MB 200LX, from my original 1MB 200LX,
>and STILL GET THE ERROR !!!
>
>I'm using an EXP ThinFax 1414 LXM card (4MB)... and loosing patience
>rapidly.  I love the 200LX, and don't readily blame the hardware, as EXP
>has good enough to replace the card once, and HP has been trying to
>help from their end, but the random error persists. ;o(
>
>I've run "garlic" on both databases, several times to no avail.  The
>ONLY thing I didn't do was to use the /V (I think it was) to delete
>"sub-sets"...
>
>This morning, for the first time, I even got an error when "Reminder"
>tried to run, saying "It could not open file", whether it is relevant or
>not, I don't know....
>
>With all the users, and all the knowledge out there about this
>wonderfull little computer, can any of the brethren help?
>
>Very sincerely,
>Denny Alford
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The help file in IntelliSync has this to say about Lotus (sorry, no
Notes stuff).
Lotus Organizer Version 2.1

Supported Sections

IntelliSync supports the Synchronize, Import, and Export operations for
the Lotus Organizer 2.1 sections listed below:

Address
Anniversary
Calendar
Calls
Notepad
Planner
To Do

System Options=20

Rename Section Option
Since Lotus Organizer allows you to customize section names, IntelliSync
provides the corresponding capability. To modify section names in
IntelliSync, go to the Options dialog. In the Section Name list box,
select the section name you wish to change. Then click the Rename button
and type the new section name into the small dialog which appears.  Note
that changing a section name in this dialog does not affect the section
name in Lotus Organizer.  Section names must be changed in both
locations.

Data Transfer Requirements

It is not necessary to close the selected Lotus Organizer file before
performing a data transfer.  The only exception to this rule is if the
"Single user access" box was checked at the time the Lotus Organizer
file was created (in Save As dialog box).  Be sure to un-check the box
if you wish to use a file which is currently open.  Note, however, that
if you do use an open file, you will need to re-open the file once the
operation is completed.  This is necessary in order to force Lotus
Organizer to refresh the file display.

=DE     Note: If you create a new file in Lotus Organizer and save it with =
the
"Single user access" dialog box unchecked, you must close and reopen the
file before you can synchronize it (or access it during an import or
export).

Backup Files

During an IntelliSync operation, IntelliSync always creates a backup
copy of the Lotus Organizer file before applying any updates.  This
allows you to restore the original file contents should the data
transfer produce undesirable results.  All backup files are created in
the same directory as the original data file.  The backup files always
retain the "base" name of the original file, but are assigned a .bak
file extension.  Look for files with these file extensions to locate the
most recent backup copy of a Lotus Organizer data file.

Group Scheduling Login

When Lotus Organizer has been installed on a server, and is being used
as a group scheduler, additional information is required for IntelliSync
to successfully complete an operation.  This information is not required
if Lotus Organizer has been installed as a stand-alone (non-group
scheduling) application.

If Lotus Organizer is installed either in a Single-Server or Notes
configuration, a User Name and Password is required to login to the
network.  When installed in a cc:Mail environment, a Post Office address
must also be supplied.  This option does not appear in the Login dialog
box, unless installed in a cc:Mail environment.  If you do not know your
post office path, contact your system administrator for details.

When installed in a network environment, IntelliSync will prompt you
once to supply or confirm a User Name, Password, and Post Office address
(only applicable to cc:Mail).  If default values exist, these will
appear in the User Name and Post Office parameters.  Once the network
settings have been supplied once, they will be used in all subsequent
attempts to perform a synchronization.

If you later need to change these settings, you may edit the contents of
the initialization file Organize.ini located in the installation
directory.  Alternatively, you can remove the file Organize.ini
altogether to force the prompt to appear the next time you run an
IntelliSync operation.

The initialization file Organize.ini contains the User Name, Password,
and cc:Mail Post Office address, using the following format:


ÝLogin¨
        UserName=3D=20
        Password=3D=20
        PostOffice=3D


Supply alternative values adjacent to the appropriate option names to
cause IntelliSync to apply different login parameters on all subsequent
synchronization requests.=20


Repeating Items

Repeating items can be transferred intact between the HP 200LX and Lotus
Organizer, with one exception.  Repeating items generated in the Lotus
Organizer Calendar section are fanned into individual items when they
are transferred to the HP 200LX.


Version #

IntelliSync supports Lotus Organizer version 2.1.


>----------
>From:  Daniel Z. SandsÝSMTP:dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU¨
>Sent:  Friday, August 08, 1997 10:43 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Transfile Win 200
>
>Does anyone know if it syncs with Lotus Notes scheduler?
>
>- Danny
>

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I too use the EXP ThinFax (4MB), and have seen that error message about
twice in two years.  I don't have a clue as to what it might be, but you
aren't alone.  It happens so seldom, I don't recall what conditions
existed or what I did to get around it.  Now that I know it's not just
me, I'll be more diligent about recording the event.
Sorry 'bout the "snipping", it's an old habit from the days when I held
a shell account connected to the net. :)

>----------
>From:  Denny AlfordÝSMTP:alforkd@OCC-UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET¨
>Sent:  Friday, August 08, 1997 11:17 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       "Cannot read disk" errors...
>
>I'm still bewilderred (and so is HP tech support apparently) with an
>"inconsistent" error: "Cannot read disc".
><snip>
>I'm using an EXP ThinFax 1414 LXM card (4MB)... and loosing patience
>rapidly.  I love the 200LX, and don't readily blame the hardware, as EXP
>has good enough to replace the card once, and HP has been trying to
>help from their end, but the random error persists. ;o(
><snip>
>
>Very sincerely,
>Denny Alford
>

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>I too use the EXP ThinFax (4MB), and have seen that error message about
>twice in two years.  I don't have a clue as to what it might be, but=
 you
>aren't alone.  It happens so seldom, I don't recall what conditions
>existed or what I did to get around it.  Now that I know it's not just
>me, I'll be more diligent about recording the event.
>Sorry 'bout the "snipping", it's an old habit from the days when I=
 held
>a shell account connected to the net. :)

Hi!

Same here- I have used an EXP ThinFax (4MB) and got the error message=
 many
times. As I have seen, I would like to say that the driver for the card=
 is
not well written. This error occure for example when you give a
wrong DOS command (wrong spelling etc.). The EXP driver will then do=
 so a
check if the 'wrong command' is something you have on the F disk. If=
 you then
don't have the EXP inserted, an error message will show up. I have also
experienced some DOS programs which will try to access the F drive even=
 if
it's not there- card out. In general, the first driver EXP came out=
 with was
really bad. The update was better. The card is in general ok, but not=
 of high
quality and the driver could be improved.


Regards,

Jorgen




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How can i configure TTalk i can only ear a strange sound with a lot of
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When I was <insert age, location, or something here> I used PNR to read
mail off-line.  Now that I don't have my mail service on a UNIX system,
I can't do that (with PNR) any more.
My question, does something exist to allow PNR or perhaps another
package to allow me to read my Win95 based mail, off line?  We/they are
using MS Exchange in a WAN arrangement, my PC is attached to the company
network and gets it's mail from a server in this building.

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John Ramos wrote:

> Has anyone else had any experience with Yellow Computing's TransFile
> Win
> 200. I have version 1.03 I picked off the web somewhere. Great
> program. Any
> othe comments?

Xclnt piece of Software.

Just make sure that you get the speeds right!


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Subject:      Re: PNR (Palmtop News Reader)

Microsoft News allows off-line reading, and can be downloaded as part of
the Microsoft Mail and News add-on package to Microsoft Internet
Explorer (it doesn't require you to use IE though).  Thanks!!!

David J. Groom
Program Manager
ISBU - Publishing Systems
Microsoft, Corp

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        From:   Phil Drummond ÝSMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨
        Sent:   Friday, August 08, 1997 1:18 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        PNR (Palmtop News Reader)

        When I was <insert age, location, or something here> I used PNR
to read
        mail off-line.  Now that I don't have my mail service on a UNIX
system,
        I can't do that (with PNR) any more.
        My question, does something exist to allow PNR or perhaps
another
        package to allow me to read my Win95 based mail, off line?
We/they are
        using MS Exchange in a WAN arrangement, my PC is attached to the
company
        network and gets it's mail from a server in this building.

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        Actually, E&B now makes an HPC model of case that has a velcro
belt model that is easily placed and removed from the belt... holds my
HP 200LX, money, two sets of business cards, credit cards, pen, and and
extra set of batteries. An extra $5 will get you a palmtop holder in
which you can clasp the 200LX... the holder itself velcros into the
wallet. Nice unit... a little bit bigger than what I really would have
wanted, but the extra space is welcome I guess. Now my wife thinks I'm
more of a
        geek than I already was 8¬).

        Incidentally, a picture of it on the belt is at:


http://www2.ebcases.com/cgi-bin/rofm_cgi/ROFM.acgi?_action=GET&_database
=ebcasesprod.db&_field=HTMLRecord&MsgID=25643,

        and a picture of the inside of it is at:


http://www2.ebcases.com/cgi-bin/rofm_cgi/ROFM.acgi?_action=GET&_database
=ebcasesprod.db&_field=HTMLRecord&MsgID=25643.

        I liked these products enough to become a vendor of them for my
own business... good quality in my opinion.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Melville ÝSMTP:ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT¨
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 1997 1:00 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: pouches...again!
>
        ÝMark Jordan¨  Ýsnip¨

> E&B also makes a handsome leather case specifically for the HP
> Palmtops
> which attaches to your belt and fully encloses the 200LX. This model
> cannot
> be removed without first removing the belt however and includes no
> pockets.
>
        ÝMark Jordan¨  Ýsnip¨

        -----

        Mark J. Jordan
        Par Computer Solutions, Inc.
        Grand Rapids, MI  49505
        mjordan@mail.com

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At 01:36 PM 8/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>        Actually, E&B now makes an HPC model of case that has a velcro
>belt model that is easily placed and removed from the belt... holds my
>HP 200LX, money, two sets of business cards, credit cards, pen, and and
>extra set of batteries. An extra $5 will get you a palmtop holder in
>which you can clasp the 200LX... the holder itself velcros into the
>wallet.

Talking of bigger cases, case logic has a PDA case for the sharp zaurus
that fits a 200LX nicely.  I have one of those palmtop holders that is
attached to the case and holds my HP.  Also has space for the power supply,
credit cards and a pen.  Nice case for 20 bucks.

Vivek

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I got a HP 200LX driver for the external Newton keyboard, which I would
love to connect to my HP 200 LX.
I need make or get a hold of a connector to the Newton keyboard.

 ===> Can anyone make one of these for me (for $$$ of course)
or refer me to where I can get such a connector?

BTW, the driver is available from:

      http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
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>From memory, there is a pretty good description of how to make this connector
in the driver's archive file that you already have. If you would like to see
some more pictures of the connector and of the keyboard, I have placed them on
my web server:

http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton1.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton2.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton3.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton4.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton5.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton6.jpg

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I'm preparing to purchase a new digital camera.  I'll probably wind up
getting the Kodak DC25, due to price constraints.  I really want a camera
with an LCD screen to preview pictures on, which cinches the DC25 for me.
I intend to use the 200LX and my 20MB flash as a "photo album" while I'm
out on trips, etc.  Has anyone successfully used this combo?  I understand
that the only difference between the DC20 and DC25 is the 25 has a built-in
flash, 2 megs of ram,  a card slot, and the LCD... so I believe that LXDC
may work. (Hopefully... if not, there's also DC20Term.exe.)  Please email
me with any tales of the 200LX and a digital camera... or even just your
"take" on the whole digital camera issue.

Thanks,
Bill Childers



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Hi there:

I'm new here and for now I just want to say hello to everybody.



Jose' Patrao
Leader of PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group -
concerned with HP*** LX palmtops and handhelds.

jap@ip.pt

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As leader of PPTUG I receive often complains from users about failure on
keyboards, specially the numeric one.

This HP200LX user has an erratic keyboard failure on the numeric keyboard -
sometimes the machines clicks but the number doesn't appear on monitor.

Portuguese HP staff first could not find the problem, and now tells the
client that he has to pay more 300 USD if he wants the machine repaired.
This is really more expensive than a new machine !

Can anybody suggest anything cheaper ?


Jose' Patrao
PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
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The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me (despite the big size and
weight, and the "not so bright" display) but no matter I tried I could not
accentuate any character.

In an European Country like Portugal the accentuation of characters is
vital, and every 200LX model sold here has a complete set of accentuated
characters.

Can anyone help me about this subject ?

Did I got the wrong model ?


Jose' Patrao
PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
jap@ip.pt

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I am in the U.K, Anywhere i can get the upgrade from over here???

Does anyone have any real info (electronic circuit's, schematics etc??), i
guess you cant just change the crystal on its own because wouldn't
everything speed up internally?? So does the H.P have a dedicated cpu clock
or just a general sub divided clock?? Does anyone know how to perform this
operation,???



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     Hi!
     I think I can help indirectly. there is a URL www.jimmy.com. I think
     he has what you are looking for.
     BTW you should have stayed with the 200LX. I wandered of to and got me
     a HP320LX. That was one of my biggest mistake of my 59 year life. I
     got me a 200LX with 4Mb. and that is going to be it...

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-ip202682 (ip202682@IP.PT) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    8/8/97 4:02 PM


The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me (despite the big size and
weight, and the "not so bright" display) but no matter I tried I could not
accentuate any character.

In an European Country like Portugal the accentuation of characters is
vital, and every 200LX model sold here has a complete set of accentuated
characters.

Can anyone help me about this subject ?

Did I got the wrong model ?


Jose' Patrao
PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
jap@ip.pt

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> Subject: <No subject given>
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:34:10 -0700
> From: John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET>
>
> I guess I'm confused, I got a file called "Newphone2" with a suffix.pdb,
> tried to load it on the LX200 and Transfile said it was the wrong file
> type. The Phone file has the same suffix, do I have to rename it (suffix)?
> This program has "email" and other such nice additions to Phone DB

The filename "newphone2.pdb" is too long for DOS. Transfile will
translate this
to an 8.3 DOS name as "newphone.2pd". Remove at least one character from
the
"newphone2" part of the name.


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Would it be a silly idea for people using this list to start the subject
line of their messages as hplx: or something similar?

That way it would be able to tell work related messages from list messages??

Anyone else got any ideas???


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Look for the WindowsCE discussion group, Real Men Don't drive CE's, I had a
chance to look at most of the CE units and I think they smell bad, sort of
a OmniGo smell or is that OmniWent? The Windows CE operating system is limp
and there is a percentage of the people on this group who are limper!

Sort of the same difference between a Carroll's Cobra 427 and a plastic one.

No single key access to apps, no Pocket Quicken, eats batteries, crashes
when you have IT all set up the way you like IT, hard to read screen (too
high rez for MY $5.00 readers). I don't think it will make survive!

"Windows CE Talk List" <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com>

Type "Subscribe" in the subject line.

I guarantee you will have more sluff than you can deal with UNLESS YOU'RE
"Looking for Love in all the Wrong Places!" I got 145 one day, My trashcan
was very busy! I was warned my ISP for excessive fragmentation of their
hard drives, Linux complained loudly! Sun spilled Java on me, hated French
Roast, I'm a Mocha kind of guy!

JR

At 12:02 AM 8/9/97 +0200, you wrote:
>The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me (despite the big size and
>weight, and the "not so bright" display) but no matter I tried I could not
>accentuate any character.
>
>In an European Country like Portugal the accentuation of characters is
>vital, and every 200LX model sold here has a complete set of accentuated
>characters.
>
>Can anyone help me about this subject ?
>
>Did I got the wrong model ?
>
>
>Jose' Patrao
>PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
>jap@ip.pt
>
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Helmut, ME TOO!

JR

At 05:14 PM 8/8/97 -0600, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     I think I can help indirectly. there is a URL www.jimmy.com. I think
>     he has what you are looking for.
>     BTW you should have stayed with the 200LX. I wandered of to and got me
>     a HP320LX. That was one of my biggest mistake of my 59 year life. I
>     got me a 200LX with 4Mb. and that is going to be it...
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
>
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>Subject: HP300LX - accentuation of characters
>Author:  Non-HP-ip202682 (ip202682@IP.PT) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
>Date:    8/8/97 4:02 PM
>
>
>The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me (despite the big size and
>weight, and the "not so bright" display) but no matter I tried I could not
>accentuate any character.
>
>In an European Country like Portugal the accentuation of characters is
>vital, and every 200LX model sold here has a complete set of accentuated
>characters.
>
>Can anyone help me about this subject ?
>
>Did I got the wrong model ?
>
>
>Jose' Patrao
>PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
>jap@ip.pt
>
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Date:         Sat, 9 Aug 1997 02:12:48 +0200
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From:         "Ignacio Garcõa Pôrez" <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: hplx: Message titles
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At 01:34 9/08/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Would it be a silly idea for people using this list to start the subject
>line of their messages as hplx: or something similar?
>
>That way it would be able to tell work related messages from list messages??
>
>Anyone else got any ideas???

I use Eudora Pro v3.0. It allows you to pass all incoming messages through
a set of filters, and, dependind on certain conditions, perform certain
operations on messages.

I created a mailbox called "HPLX list", and set a filter that when finds
the chain "HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU" in any field of the message header,
transfers it to that mailbox.

So, alter each mail check, I get all my messages automatically sorted in
different mailboxes.

Regards. Nacho.

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP300LX - accentuation of characters

...The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me.
...<snip>
...Did I got the wrong model ?
...Jose' Patrao

Yes, you got the wrong model.  The correct model is easy to identify.  It is
clearly labeled, "HP200LX."

lynn m. cavendish

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HERE! HERE!

Get off this board with that peice of Schmata!

JR

At 08:33 PM 8/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>...The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me.
>...<snip>
>...Did I got the wrong model ?
>...Jose' Patrao
>
>Yes, you got the wrong model.  The correct model is easy to identify.  It is
>clearly labeled, "HP200LX."
>
>lynn m. cavendish
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Date:         Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:40:38 -0400
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From:         "Peter W." <peterw@CLARK.NET>
Subject:      PNR & Win95
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What you need for PNR is something to make UQWK packets, and I recall from
the PNR docs that there is a Win95 app that does just that. A bit of
Altavista hunting turns up Robert Rush's page in Chicago, try
  http://www.mcs.net/~bobr/ftp-dir.html

Good luck!


Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:18:27 -0500
From:    Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject: PNR (Palmtop News Reader)

When I was <insert age, location, or something here> I used PNR to read
mail off-line.  Now that I don't have my mail service on a UNIX system,
I can't do that (with PNR) any more.
My question, does something exist to allow PNR or perhaps another
package to allow me to read my Win95 based mail, off line?  We/they are

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Ignacio Garc=F5a P=F4rez wrote:

> At 01:34 9/08/97 +0200, you wrote:
> >Would it be a silly idea for people using this list to start the subje=
ct
> >line of their messages as hplx: or something similar?
> >
> >That way it would be able to tell work related messages from list mess=
ages??
> >
> >Anyone else got any ideas???
>
> I use Eudora Pro v3.0. It allows you to pass all incoming messages thro=
ugh
> a set of filters, and, dependind on certain conditions, perform certain
> operations on messages.

Netscape Communicator's e-mail program, Messenger, now allows you to defi=
ne filters as
well.  So for those of us who use Netscape, make sure you have the latest=
 version and you
can set up filters to automatically divert HPLX messages into a separate =
folder.

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I've gotten IE's included mail program to work, which filters 99% of the
HPLX messages to a different folder.  A few fall through but it's very
rare.  So yous guys that use Internet Explorer have got a solution as
well.  (BTW its under Mail - Inbox Assistant.)

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

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> > I use Eudora Pro v3.0. It allows you to pass all incoming messages =
through
> > a set of filters, and, dependind on certain conditions, perform certa=
in
> > operations on messages.
>
> Netscape Communicator's e-mail program, Messenger, now allows you to =
define
> filters as
> well.  So for those of us who use Netscape, make sure you have the late=
st
> version and you
> can set up filters to automatically divert HPLX messages into a separat=
e
> folder.

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From:         Vivek Venugopalan <vivek.venugopalan@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Newton Keyboard for HP 200 LX
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At 06:24 PM 8/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>From memory, there is a pretty good description of how to make this
connector
>in the driver's archive file that you already have. If you would like to see
>some more pictures of the connector and of the keyboard, I have placed
them on
>my web server:

Hi Mitch
  I take it that you have tried it (from the pictures) so give us some
numbers - How much did it cost.  Where did you get those connectors and all
the nice details!

Vivek

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> Look for the WindowsCE discussion group, Real Men Don't drive CE's, I =
had a
> chance to look at most of the CE units and I think they smell bad, sort=
 of
> a OmniGo smell or is that OmniWent? The Windows CE operating system is =
limp
> and there is a percentage of the people on this group who are limper!

Can't agree with you more there.  I didn't even need pictures and color =
to smell
the 300 coming.  I was using my computer as a connection terminal one nig=
ht, and
was surfin' the 'net with Lynx, and I went to the HP Handhelds page and =
I started
to smell ... well, the idiots industry, not to put too fine a point on =
it.  Not the idiot
designers industry, no, they're just making money off it.  Nooo, it was =
the type of
people who would buy a $800 DayMinder with ... a stylus that doesn't writ=
e on paper
plus an added bonus of .. size.  I've seen the type of people with their =
brand new
ultra-expensive Casios and NECs and HPs.  They like the fact that their =
computer
has a 40MHz power-sucking RISC processor.  Yep.  And .. a 320x240 display=
.
Ah-hah.  And an unreliable but pretty OS.  That's the stuff. ;)

Don't ask any of these people whether their so-called "palmtop computer" =
can
actually _do_ anything.  (or drop your 200 into DOS, for that matter.)

> Sort of the same difference between a Carroll's Cobra 427 and a plastic=
 one.

Exactly.  There ain't one single thing you can do on a WinCE machine that
couldn't be done quicker and more efficiently than one of those folding =
electronic
256K Rolodexes.  (And Rolodexes have had infrared almost since they start=
ed
making the electronic versions.)

> No single key access to apps, no Pocket Quicken, eats batteries, crashe=
s
> when you have IT all set up the way you like IT, hard to read screen =
(too
> high rez for MY $5.00 readers). I don't think it will make survive!

Lotus might be a sleep-inducing number-crunch company, but they made one
hell of a task-swapper, which is more than I can say for WinCE.  No task =
keys?
No power-savng?  No reliability?  This ain't HP, folks, this is Microsoft=
 and the
idiots industry (which may be the same thing.. hadn't thought about it.) =
 No two
ways about it.

Progammers group coming soon... check my page often.  I've written most =
of
the HTML on my palmtop during long driving trips.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
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Chances are, that's the actual speech.  After you've loaded it, try
hitting Alt-Enter.  You should hear some static resembling "review".
Then hit F3 (I think) or Shift-F3 to change the pitch/speed.  Then
hit enter, you should hear more static resembling "exit".  Sorry I
can't help you more, I only found the thing, I don't use it. ;)

Ian Butler
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> echo.

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A lot of friends use Intellisync for synchronize HP and Win programs. May I
ask it it works with the Chinese softwares? Of course I don't expect the
Chinese characters to be synchronized and readable in HP appointment book,
etc. What I mean is about the sychronization of the English info in my
Chinese Windows95 and Chinese Schedule+. Since the Chinese version of 95 and
Schedule+, etc., is Chinese only in the user interface and the program
language behind is English, I guess there may some possibllities to
sychronize the Eng info. Any of you can offer kindly your experience on that
issue? Thanks.

Pun-shing Chik
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children in schools? Should unpatriotic people be barred from influencing
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Hi everybody,

I've been planning on writing a piece of SW that would enable me to
download the photos from my Apple/Kodack QuickTake digital camera to an
HPLX for some time but never found time to get down to it.

I'm interested to know how you're getting on with your experiments.

Has anyone already designed a prg linking the Quicktake Kodack / Apple
digital camera to the HPLX ???

Thanks for your help.

Bye for now...
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Hi everybody,

I am just about to order an IBM PC110 palmtop.

I'd like to know if anybody could answer the following questions:

- the best deal I could get was at T-Zone in Japan. Has anyone have a
better deal to suggest ?

- what is the price of this digital camera that fits in the PC110 that's
often seen on the photos of the machine ?

- how's the keyboard ?

- what's the price of the batteries ? What type are they ? Are there any
high capacity models ?

- has anyone made use of this little drawing pad ?

- Do the 4Mb of Flash memory work the same as standard PCMCIA flash
cards (unlimited  write/erase cycle ?)

- what's the actual battery life ?

- is the AMD K5 133MHz upgrade reliable ? What is the resulting battery
speed ? Are there any disfunctionning of any kind ?

- has anyone heard of the english version of the built-in PIM

- has anyone reported some incompatibility with the PCMCIA slot and any
card on the market ? (modem, LAN, cellular, SCSI, etc...)


THANK YOU FOR THE TIME SPENT ANSWERING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS !!!


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Bill -

> I've been experimenting with a wireless communications solution for my 200.
> I recently picked up a Megahertz Allpoints card, and while it works great,
> the service isn't cheap.  I have a Nokia 2120 dual mode phone, and I was
> wondering if anyone out there knows of a cellular compatible modem that'll
> work on the 200 and my Nokia.  I also have a Megahertz cell phone modem
> (28.8), but is draws too much current to work in the 200.

Apex Data has 33.6 PCMCIA modems for "landline and analog cellular" use
with are said to work in the HP 200LX. Look at their website at:

        http://www.apexdata.com/DataFaxMenu.html

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> I got a HP 200LX driver for the external Newton keyboard, which I would
> love to connect to my HP 200 LX.
> I need make or get a hold of a connector to the Newton keyboard.

Hey, this is pretty cool! You could even touch type on the thing:
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton5.jpg

But how much does a newton keyboard cost? And will the driver work with
std IBM keyboards (I'd guess not...) because that would be a very cheap
(and quite light) way to type lecture notes.

And even with a IBM keyboard, it *would* be lighter than a laptop! :)
*anticipating ridicule*

Brendan

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Anyone on the list have any good scuba related software for the 200LX?

I am currently writing a "Dive Analyzer" program that interfaces the 200LX
with a Citizen's HyperAqualand dive-watch via serial cable. The program
dumps the profiles from the watch memory and makes approx. 40 calculations
based upon the diver's profile. The program also graphs / plots the dive. I
travel on dive trips frequently and the 200LX lets me store / analyze my
dive profiles without having to pack a laptop. (The watch will only store
about six dive profiles, so the HP lets me save ALL of my dive data.)

Has anyone on the list already written a similar program that interfaces
with the HyperAqualand watch?

Harry
hjones1@airmail.net

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> Microsoft News allows off-line reading, and can be downloaded as part=
 of
> the Microsoft Mail and News add-on package to Microsoft Internet
> Explorer (it doesn't require you to use IE though).  Thanks!!!

Does that run on a palmtop?

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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>Ian Butler
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
>200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

Waiting for it...

Regards. Nacho.

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Please send me an  info on this.
Thanks,

predrag@mindspring.com

> HP 700 is a story of its own. It is "GSM product".
>
> BTW, we have discovered an internal bug (hardware conflict)
> in HP 700. If interested in details, e-mail me.
>
> Jan
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On 8 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> Any comments on EMM drivers....a rock solid one that works?

The 'Tremm' EMS driver that ships with Times 2 Tech's upgrades are as=
 solid
as they come! Unfortunately they don't sell it separately (partly because
its hardware specific and works only with the 4 meg ram upgrage).

It also works with windows although EMM200 can't...

Regards,


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On 8 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> I'm still bewilderred (and so is HP tech support apparently) with=
 an
> "inconsistent" error: "Cannot read disc".
>
> I'm using an EXP ThinFax 1414 LXM card (4MB)... and loosing patience
> rapidly.  I love the 200LX, and don't readily blame the hardware,=
 as EXP
> has good enough to replace the card once, and HP has been trying to
> help from their end, but the random error persists. ;o(

Just one question: Do you keep the CIC100 TSR loaded at all times?

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Hi:

I've been tihinking and experimenting little bit about dynamic linking for
our LX:=20

From the program's point of view (nothing still about the dynamic library
format and all that stuff):

OPTION 1: Subsitute each function by a 'fake' function pointer. Dynamic
linking will consist in loading the required libraries and filling that
table with appropiate pointers. Define each 'fake' function in a separate
file, so just that function (pointer) is linked when used.

Problems:=09
- Little calling overhead (just reading the pointer from memory). Probably
unnoticeable (unless the function has only a few instructions).
- Need of information of where in the data area are the pointers, in order
for the dynamic linker to fill them. =BF How to produce it ? (I=20
guess   method will be probably compiler-dependent).

Advantages:
- Fake functions (pointers) easily portable to different compilers.
- No code growing. Instead of calls to function addresses, indirect calls.
Same size (or even smaller if large model used). Extra size only due to
pointer location information (for filling when dynamic linking).
- ROMable. No code modification required (see option 2), all moficications
are done on the data segment (pointer filling). Probably useless anyway in
our case.

OPTION 2: Substitute each function call by special code such as "PUSH nnnn,
INT mm", where nnnn is the library/function code, and mm is the vector to
which the dynamic linker is hooked, either as a TSR or either as part of
the program (a INT mm is smaller than a call to a function if the dynamic
liner is part of the program).=20

Problems:
- Unless it's possible to load needed functions when they are first called,
they all will need to be loaded toghether with the program, so it's still
needed some report about the functions used (loading the entire library
would use too much memory).
- Jumping to the appropiate function in the INT reoutine depending on the
function/library code, would mean a big execution time penalty. To solve
this, the first time the function is called from that point of the code,
the code could be patched to be a direct call to an absolute address. Then,
it would be unROMable (doesn't matter in out case).
- Code growth. PUSH nnnn, INT mm are five bytes, same as calls in large
model, but
larger that in small model.
- And the MAIN PROBLEM: how to substitute function calls by that special
code. The only compiler that I know can do it is WATCOM C through the
pragma directive. It's a very good compiler, but I don't want to restrict
this project to a single compiler. The benefit will come if most
programmers share the same common libraries (very easy if thos are the
standar C libraries). In other compilers, that special code would have to
go encapsulated into another function, wich means execution penalty and
code growth.

Advantages:
- No memory use for function pointers as in option 1.=09
- Would be possible to completely isolate the program and the dynamic
linker. You link your program with the 'fake' libraries, and that's all. If
the dynamic linker is loaded, it will patch the program wihout any help
from it. (except maybe a list of used functions in order to not having to
load them in the middle of the program's executioun, which could be
somewhat dangerous).


IMO, the pointer approach is the best: it's fully portable. No 'dirty'
things like code mofication. The only problem to be solved is how to know
where into the data area are the  pointers, and include information of what
functions they must point to. I'll keep on researching in that direction.

It's interesting, though, the 'isolation' advantage of option 2, so, I'll
not discard it yet.


Greetings. Nacho.

P.S: I have Turbo C 2.0, Borland C++ 3.1 and WATCOM C/C++ 10.5, and will
try to get something at least useable for all three, with more attention to
Turbo C 2.0, because it's the most suitable (if not the only) to run on the
HP200LX itself. If anyone is interested in another compiler, contact me,
please.

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> The first HP300LX I saw seemed funny to me (despite the big size and
> weight, and the "not so bright" display) but no matter I tried I could=
 not
> accentuate any character.

You can create accented characters on a desktop, download the document
to the WinCE unit and copy and paste the characters there. Supposingly,
there are also add-on programs that allow you to enter those
characters. Supposingly, there will be (when?) localized units that
allow you to enter some accented characters directly.

Yes, I find that rediculous too.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Subject:      DIS: Preventing Cracks

Not to stir up old issues, but I'd like some feedback.

I'm currently awaiting my Express Exchange for the infamous hinge crack.
HP is loosening the hinge for me, but I was wondering what else I could
do. I had this idea....

Place, either intact or by cutting it, the nameplate on the FRONT of
the unit, OVER the spot where the cracks/fractures appear. As they seem to
appear in the EXACT same place each time, perhaps this will strengthen
the stress point and avoid the problem. I'm hoping that this would not
just move the crack to a new location.... Perhaps if it were placed
back to front, running parallel to the right side, and centered in the
"flat" area.

What do you think?

Thanks!

Larry


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Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET> responded to:

>The Windows CE operating system is limp
>and there is a percentage of the people on this group who are limper!

with...
>Can't agree with you more there.

Do you guys really want to start a flame war over something that is not HPLX
related?

One of the peaks of my day is reading the digest. I am interested in the
HPLX and have always appreciated that I could find just that, in an
intelligent, insightful forum for sharing ideas.

All opinions are welcome, of course. But I feel a message should be a
contribution to the discussion rather than a soap box. I realize I can go
elsewhere if I don't like the heat, but there's nowhere else to go and
there's too much good stuff here.

Can we cut down the insults? Show your intelligence with biting criticism,
not malice.

Pelon

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Does Times 2 Tech  (or whatever) have a website?
Anyone have contact information?

At 09:12 AM 8/9/97 -0400, Ian Melville wrote:
>On 8 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:
>
>> Any comments on EMM drivers....a rock solid one that works?
>
>The 'Tremm' EMS driver that ships with Times 2 Tech's upgrades are as solid
>as they come! Unfortunately they don't sell it separately (partly because
>its hardware specific and works only with the 4 meg ram upgrage).
>
>It also works with windows although EMM200 can't...
>
>Regards,
>
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Hi Helmut!

Why do you like your 200LX so much over the 320LX?


At 05:14 PM 8/8/97 -0600, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     I think I can help indirectly. there is a URL www.jimmy.com. I think
>     he has what you are looking for.
>     BTW you should have stayed with the 200LX. I wandered of to and got me
>     a HP320LX. That was one of my biggest mistake of my 59 year life. I
>     got me a 200LX with 4Mb. and that is going to be it...
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
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You can get an adapter/charger (part number hp1011A  -- Call 805-371-9454

At 06:10 PM 8/6/97 UT, you wrote:
>Anyone know the best place to acquire an AC adapter for the 100?  I got mine
>used and it did not have one.  I am sure I could buy one from HP for probably
>around $20.
>
>Ed Manuel
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Using Eurdora, I just have all messages from this list automatically moved
to my HP Palmtop folder.  You can probably do something similar with
your email system.  CCMAIL for example can do the same thing.

At 01:34 AM 8/9/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Would it be a silly idea for people using this list to start the subject
>line of their messages as hplx: or something similar?
>
>That way it would be able to tell work related messages from list messages??
>
>Anyone else got any ideas???
>
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I have prn2file  (it is at work)
If you need it let me know.

At 07:55 AM 8/6/97 GMT, you wrote:
>So far, PC-File seems to fill my need for a DB that's small enough and can
>hold my "notes" fields. Thanks "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>.
>
>Problem: (Not really a HPLX issue, but...)
>It comes with an exe that prints the 120 page (three more dead trees)
>documentation and it cannot be redirected. I used to have a TSR that would
>catch anything on it's way to the printer and write it to a file. Can't find
>it. Can anybody help?
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>Brian Franey                phone   506-283-5941
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Do you want to download the email on a desktop and then move it to
the HP or do you want to download it directly to your HP?



At 11:01 AM 8/6/97 UT, you wrote:
>I'd like to do the same thing.  I second the motion for a possible
solution to
>this problem.
>
>P. Craig Davis
>PCD in Macon, GA, the Cherry Blossom capital of the country.
>
>----------
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>Sent:   Tuesday, August 05, 1997 9:25 AM
>To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:        WANTED! ---> Reading Netscape email on HP
>
>Hi!
>
>I would like to read my email messages on my HP importing from Nestscape
>or Explorer.
>How can I do it?
>
>Thanks in advance to all in this list for any suggestion.
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I reall enjoy programming PDC PROLOG.
PROLOG is a (so called) fifth generation language
where often you don't describe what to do, but
rathter the result you want and PROLOG's
built-in inference engine figures out how to
arrive at the result.  You can enter facts and
rules and PROLOG arrives at the answer.  It
is sort of like playing a game to code in PROLOG.
It can be frustrating for a traditional programmer
though because you have to change your thinking
quite a bit.  You can't say:

   Count = Count + 1

Because that doesn't make sense logically!

You have to say:

   NewCount = Count + 1


Anyway, PDC PROLOG will create really fast
exes that will run great on an HP 200LX.

I've recently developed a program for musicians
to help them train their musical ear.  It will
run on just about any PC including a 200 LX.
I wrote it all in PDC PROLOG.



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On 8 Aug 1997  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> Hi there:
>
> I'm new here and for now I just want to say hello to everybody.

Greetings from Trinidad and.... welcome aboard!

Regards,


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>      BTW you should have stayed with the 200LX. I wandered of to and=
 got me
>      a HP320LX. That was one of my biggest mistake of my 59 year life.=
 I
>      got me a 200LX with 4Mb. and that is going to be it...

Helmut, its great having 'back on our team'! What became of that 320
anyway...?

I am also interested to learn of your beef with the 320 - mine would=
 be too
long for the 300-line post limit on this list <g>.

Regards,


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Comments: cc: pseyer@best.com

times2tech is on the web at:

              www.times2tech.com

e-mail is:

              mack@times2tech.com

lynn m. cavendish

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On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:

> Does Times 2 Tech  (or whatever) have a website?
> Anyone have contact information?

http://www.times2tech.com/

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I'm very sorry and I won't do it again.   Although the discussion was mor=
e
or less based on the 200, it was not a flame, nor was it a war.  We are
all 200LX people, I was just pointing out how WinCE people ususallty
react.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

--------
> Do you guys really want to start a flame war over something that is not=
 HPLX
> related?
>
> One of the peaks of my day is reading the digest. I am interested in =
the
> HPLX and have always appreciated that I could find just that, in an
> intelligent, insightful forum for sharing ideas.
>
> All opinions are welcome, of course. But I feel a message should be a
> contribution to the discussion rather than a soap box. I realize I can =
go
> elsewhere if I don't like the heat, but there's nowhere else to go and
> there's too much good stuff here.

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On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 21:42:28 PDT, Ian Butler wrote:

>Progammers group coming soon... check my page often.  I've written most =
of
>the HTML on my palmtop during long driving trips.

Not while at the wheel, I hope ;-)

--=20
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It's my belief that the LX CE palmtop belongs on the WindowsCE discussion
group and the LX200 belongs on this board.

I has been there and Hallelujah!, I has seen the light! That's why I'm here
and not there.

WinCE sucks!

Give me a few sucks and tucks, 5 kilos of makeup and an air conditioned
doghouse...

My definition of WinCE!

Signed Tammy!

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 In my case, I would like to download the mail to my desktop PC, then export
the files to the palmtop.

I'm using Microsoft's Internet Mail and News, which only allows exporting
to Microsoft Exchange.

One solution is to transfer the mailbox (.mbx) files to the palmtop, then
use
filer or list.exe to view them in dos, but thats messy.

Any better solutions?

---
/s/ Dave Kandz
dkandz@pobox.com

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Hi Philip,
        Did you get any responses about the keyboard cable?

        How big is the Newton keyboard, can it be touch-typed on?

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles

Philip Seyer wrote:
>
> I got a HP 200LX driver for the external Newton keyboard, which I would
> love to connect to my HP 200 LX.
> I need make or get a hold of a connector to the Newton keyboard.
>
>  ===> Can anyone make one of these for me (for $$$ of course)
> or refer me to where I can get such a connector?
>
> BTW, the driver is available from:
>
>       http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
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In response to the handful of posts on this topic:

Sounds like someone ought to investigate the possibility of an app
which would parse your desktop email and produce a UQWK-style
package, which could then be read by a DOS app on the LX, perhaps the
Palmtop News Reader.

Issues:
  * Desktop email format. This would be easy with Netscape mail *iff*
you're not using compressed folders. (maybe those too?) Basically any
email app that lets you manipulate its folders (i.e. read/grab
messages *and* add/delete messages) would be OK.
  * UQWK format. Probably need to grab some UQWK UNIX source code,
unless someone has a source of UQWK specs. Altavista turned up
http://shrine.cyber.ad.jp/~jwt/uqwk/ for starters. There's apps at:
http://www.cpdee.ufmg.br/simtel/simtel_index_offline.html
  * Just the Inbox folder? I'm guessing a lot of folks have got some
mail filtering rules in place and might want more than the Inbox.
  * What language to write the converter in? I'd suggest Perl, being
as platform-neutral as possible so more folks can use the tool.
  * Replies. How would these be sent?

I'd think a script could scan whatever list of folders you wanted,
grab the Un-read messages (without attachments?), maybe prepend
Ýfolder-name¨ to the subject line, create a UQWK bundle for PNR. In
PNR you could use the "Save" option to save a message (as foo.msg in
the REPLIES folder) and the normal Reply to reply. Once done, you'd
move all the files from the REPLIES folder back to the desktop and a
second script would go through the .msg files to be marked read and
kept, and the .m?? files to be placed in the Outbox where you'd
probably need to manually select them and issue a Send command (for
UNIX boxes they could be sent with sendmail and placed in the Sent
folder, nothing further needed). Any message not saved in PNR would
be removed from the desktop folder (or maybe this is configurable for
packrats?). Of course the second script would also remove the
Ýfolder-name¨ for both outbound and saved messages. Generally you'd
have two Perl scripts, tolx.pl and fromlx.pl, and a library for each
supported desktop program, e.g. nn4-lib.pl.

Also, while it would seem easy to keep a message in the folder it's
already on in the desktop system, I wonder how you could use the
palmtop to indicate a msg should be kept but moved to another desktop
folder? I'd suggest filenames if this weren't DOS ;-) Maybe an LX
macro would "Save" the email & then take you thru steps to record the
info in the .msg after it was saved? Sounds tough to me.

This could be an excellent app. Mobile workers could "sync" a couple
times a day and do their email business in the elevator, taxi,
train... Now that I've said that, I'd bet this shows up in a future
version of Windows, Clunky Everwhere. ;-)

Thinking out loud,

-Peter

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Greetings,

        I asked this question on the other list, but I'm asking again
in case anyone has made any progress: Has anyone had any success
running a 3270 terminal emulation package on the HPLX? I know about=
 the
Clarkson package on SUPER, but has any one got it working with a dialup
TCP/IP?

Thanks & Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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It was pointed out that the TREMM driver from Times2Tech only works on 4
MB models.  Actually, that is not true.  I had Mack (the head honcho at
T2T) upgrade my measly 1 MB 200LX to a measly 2 MB, and he included the
TREMM driver for me.  It works great with MAXDOS and Windows 3.0.
In case you're interested, the 1 to 2 MB upgrade is $75 installed plus
FedEx shipping.  It's almost worth it for just the EMM driver, if you
don't need the whopping 4 MB upgrade.  I just wanted some extra space for
communications and fax software for when I have to take out my flash card
to use a PC card modem.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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>  In my case, I would like to download the mail to my desktop PC, then export
> the files to the palmtop.
>
> I'm using Microsoft's Internet Mail and News, which only allows exporting
> to Microsoft Exchange.
>
> One solution is to transfer the mailbox (.mbx) files to the palmtop, then
> use
> filer or list.exe to view them in dos, but thats messy.
>
> Any better solutions?
>
 Why don't you use Pegasus mail.
they are version for dos, win3.1 and wn95/nt.
They are free software.
It's possible to use dos or windows software with the same data.

Alain

regards

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>   I take it that you have tried it (from the pictures)

No, I have not tried it. Those pictures were sent to me from Japan. I thought
the little stick-on application graphics were cool. Did you catch that?

Mitch

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Try Net Tamer, when you figer it out, let us know!


<underline>http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/

</underline>

JR



At 09:08 AM 8/11/97 +0000, you wrote:

>>  In my case, I would like to download the mail to my desktop PC, then
export

>> the files to the palmtop.

>>

>> I'm using Microsoft's Internet Mail and News, which only allows
exporting

>> to Microsoft Exchange.

>>

>> One solution is to transfer the mailbox (.mbx) files to the palmtop,
then

>> use

>> filer or list.exe to view them in dos, but thats messy.

>>

>> Any better solutions?

>>

> Why don't you use Pegasus mail.

>they are version for dos, win3.1 and wn95/nt.

>They are free software.

>It's possible to use dos or windows software with the same data.

>

>Alain

>

>regards

>

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Subject:      Re: HP300LX - accentuation of characters
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     Hi!
     Thanks I needed that really. The HP320LX is the most useless piece of
     equipment I ever owned. It went back to HP. I got me 200LX 4 Mb and
     will never wander off. I think I have said it all.

     Helmut in Colorado


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>      BTW you should have stayed with the 200LX. I wandered of to and got me
>      a HP320LX. That was one of my biggest mistake of my 59 year life. I
>      got me a 200LX with 4Mb. and that is going to be it...

Helmut, its great having 'back on our team'! What became of that 320
anyway...?

I am also interested to learn of your beef with the 320 - mine would be too
long for the 300-line post limit on this list <g>.

Regards,


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At 05:44 PM 8/10/97 -0700, you wrote:

>>>>

<excerpt>Try Net Tamer, when you figure it out, let us know!


<underline>http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/

</underline>

JR



At 09:08 AM 8/11/97 +0000, you wrote:

>>  In my case, I would like to download the mail to my desktop PC, then
export

>> the files to the palmtop.

>>

>> I'm using Microsoft's Internet Mail and News, which only allows
exporting

>> to Microsoft Exchange.

>>

>> One solution is to transfer the mailbox (.mbx) files to the palmtop,
then

>> use

>> filer or list.exe to view them in dos, but thats messy.

>>

>> Any better solutions?

>>

> Why don't you use Pegasus mail.

>they are version for dos, win3.1 and wn95/nt.

>They are free software.

>It's possible to use dos or windows software with the same data.

>

>Alain

>

>regards

>

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Has anyone tried using the Newton Keyboard?  If so, how did it work?  Any
cautions?

At 08:20 PM 8/10/97 -0400, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>>   I take it that you have tried it (from the pictures)
>
>No, I have not tried it. Those pictures were sent to me from Japan. I thought
>the little stick-on application graphics were cool. Did you catch that?
>
>Mitch
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I'm checking to see if PDC Prolog for DOS is available.  I'll let you know.
The company that developed it, is now focusing on VIP (Visual Prolog for
Windows)

At , Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>>I reall enjoy programming PDC PROLOG.
>>PROLOG is a (so called) fifth generation language
>>where often you don't describe what to do, but
>>rathter the result you want and PROLOG's
>>built-in inference engine figures out how to
>>arrive at the result.  You can enter facts and
>>rules and PROLOG arrives at the answer.  It
>
>Hi!
>
>I saw your message about PDC PROLOG and find it very interesting! However,
>there are not a single DOS program available in Singapore, so do you know
>where a can get a copy of this program? Unfortunately, I guess that it's an
>old DOS program which is not available anymore- correct? If so then it will
>be extra difficult to get a copy.
>
>I would highly appreciate if you could reply to this message.
>
>Thanks and Regards,
>
>Jorgen
>
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>
>
>
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From:         "Jean F. Feldman, DVM" <PalmtopVet@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: pouches...again!

   I have used the palmtop holster from Opus 63 for 4 years (two separate
models) and never had a problem with people figuring that I had a gun on
me... even in airports.  I doubt the holster for the model you mention from
EduCalc would get you in trouble.  (I've only travelled in the US, though.)
   I like the holster and although I thought belting the palmtop to me would
be a good deal I have found it stays pretty close to your side without using
the "belt loop feature."

Jean F. Feldman, DVM
Hamburg, NY US

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Well, I did it.  I bought a DC25, Kodak model.  However, I can't seem to be able to get it to talk using the LXDC program found on SUPER.  Does anyone know if the LXDC program only supports the DC20, or if it'll work with the DC25?  The main differences between the two cameras are the 25 has 2meg flashmem, and an LCD display on the back.


Thanks,
Bill

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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Just curious, what did you pay for the camera?

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> From: Bill Childers <childers@DTS.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Digital photos
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 1997 8:26 PM
>
> Well, I did it.  I bought a DC25, Kodak model.  However, I can't seem to
be able to get it to talk using the LXDC program found on SUPER.  Does
anyone know if the LXDC program only supports the DC20, or if it'll work
with the DC25?  The main differences between the two cameras are the 25 has
2meg flashmem, and an LCD display on the back.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
> Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
> childers@garlic.com
> http://www.garlic.com/~childers
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The August 1997 issue of "Byte" magazine had two articles about palmtops.
One was a discussion about WinCE which was all "Gee Wizz what a wonderful
thing" and the other was a comparison of all the leading palmtops. HP320
Psion etc etc. The only palmtop which was not mentioned was the HP200! Who
says that HP is not trying to kill us off?


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Subject:      Re: Availability of Prolog DOS compiler

I did a search and found the following site

      http://www.pdc.dk/html/ordrfrm1.htm

It lists     PDC Prolog  3.31 DOS   for approx  $ 115.00
Hope this helps you - the price is too steep for my budget  ;-)

I bought Borland Turbo Pascal at AuctionWeb - see this site for listing -

http://www2.ebay.com/aw/list.html

go to software, general or software, educational - with some patience you may find another copy listed

Mike

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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Availability of Prolog DOS compiler

I'm checking to see if PDC Prolog for DOS is available.  I'll let you know.
The company that developed it, is now focusing on VIP (Visual Prolog for
Windows)

At , Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>>I reall enjoy programming PDC PROLOG.
>>PROLOG is a (so called) fifth generation language
>>where often you don't describe what to do, but
>>rathter the result you want and PROLOG's
>>built-in inference engine figures out how to
>>arrive at the result.  You can enter facts and
>>rules and PROLOG arrives at the answer.  It
>
>Hi!
>
>I saw your message about PDC PROLOG and find it very interesting! However,
>there are not a single DOS program available in Singapore, so do you know
>where a can get a copy of this program? Unfortunately, I guess that it's an
>old DOS program which is not available anymore- correct? If so then it will
>be extra difficult to get a copy.
>
>I would highly appreciate if you could reply to this message.
>
>Thanks and Regards,
>
>Jorgen

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Greetings to the Mailing List,

Here are some more thoughts on batteries.

For AUS$2 one can purchase a basic credit-card-sized calculator that
handles 8 digits and one memory using only a tiny strip of solar
cells.  These take up just over 2 square centimetres and are capable
of operating the unit in a light that is barely enough to see in.
Apart of course from the basic functions, this array of cells supports
a display area of virtually the same size.

The total area around the edge of the 100LX screen is effectively 46
sq cm., the screen area being only slightly more than this, at 54 sq
cms.  Obviously the functionality of the Palmtop is much greater than
that of the tiny calculator described, but an array of solar cells
around the screen of the former might be enough to support the screen
display, since in any event the the lid has to be at the correct angle
to capture enough light for viewing, otherwise the Palmtop cannot be
used.

Now suppose that attached to the lid of the Palmtop was a much
thinner, lightweight lid of similar size with a hinge on the leading
edge such that it could be lifted up in the opposite sense to the main
lid at any required angle.  If this could be covered with another
array of cells, maybe there would be enough energy to run the main
functions of the Palmtop (excluding cards and large amounts of RAM).

Since thinking of this, I attempted to connect up my 100LX to a
commercially available solar array-cum-battery charger (available from
Dick Smith in Australia for about AUS$20).  Unfortunately, despite
trying various configurations and taking the main batteries out of the
Palmtop, I could not obtain a screen display.  The output of the solat
charger fell from about 3 volts to half that value when connected and
I was advised that the shop lighting was too low for my purposes.  So
back to the drawing board!

Since more power is obviously required, what about a multiple fold-out
array to be attached electrically and mechanically to either side of
the Palmtop's lid hinge via a miniature wing-nut or knurled screw?
The folded array would be the same dimensions as the lid, but two or
three separate cell layers thick, with thin arms on each side parallel
to the edge of the lid so that it would be opened out first by 180
degress until flat on the table.  Then the other layer(s) could be
unfolded 180 degrees to produce an array.  Perhaps the unfolding angle
could be varied to suit lighting conditions.

Alternatively, the array could be detachable from the palmtop to
maximise positioning for available light and a short connector used
via the external jack as currently used for the adapter.  There is
nothing technically impossible in all of this - the question is
whether it is feasible at a reasonable price and whether it would
sell.  Maybe it is something for Japanese innovation or Mack Baguette
(are you reading this, Mack?).

Anyway, if this is not good enough, there are still other
possibilities for increasing the time-span between battery
changes...to be continued, perhaps...unless I am boring everyone?

Barry Collins
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Well, you know....

I happen to have a copy of the PCMCIA spec for Card and Socket Services
drivers and the HP Internals book. Comparing the two, it seems that there
shouldn't be much to creating this code.

a C&SS driver pair must do the following:

create a pool of free resources (DMA, Interrupt, IO, memory)
allow drivers to "register" (ie. provide a callback address)
provide notification of card insertion to all registered drivers
parse Card Information Structure (CIS) data on the card (a pretty simple
format that's also documented)
remove resources from the pool when requested and put them back when
requested

The device specific driver is responsible for all else.

There's a defined INT XX AH=YY interface for talking to C&SS (I forget,
offhand), and since there's only one slot, the C&SS code doesn't have to
worry about resource contention with other cards (only static stuff).

I haven't looked in detail at Interrupt and DMA allocation, but IO and
memory resource blocks are available as dedicated to the PCMCIA slot.

The reason the standard drivers are not likely to support the HP is that no
standard PC has bankswitching in the same way as the HP, plus they're all
written assuming an Intel 365 compatible PCMCIA controller register set,
which the HP definitely does NOT have.

So there - a programming project for the brave at heart :-) I haven't got
the time to beat my head against the wall for this one, but I DO have the
time to offer support, advice, documentation, etc. for anyone willing to
try. (I'm too busy with Win95 PnP PCMCIA drivers).

rick

> > Does anyone know where I could get Card and Socket Services drivers
> > for the 200?  The Panasonic ASPI driver should work if I can fit Card &
> > Socket Services underneath.
>
> I'm actively looking for one myself, to support a card from Eiger
> Labs.  I'll report here if I find anything.
>

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On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Al Kind wrote:
>         I asked this question on the other list, but I'm asking again
> in case anyone has made any progress: Has anyone had any success
> running a 3270 terminal emulation package on the HPLX? I know about the
> Clarkson package on SUPER, but has any one got it working with a dialup
> TCP/IP?

Al,

I ran Advantis on the palmtop for a while (all of 1 week). It did pretty
good emulation, but I chucked it in favor of running tn3270 via my shell
account at work (accessed via Datacomm) cuz my 3270 needs are/were light
and Advantis was more trouble than it was worth to use (2-3 mb disk space,
another password to track, another set of phone numbers to track, etc).

Haven't tried Clarkson or any other 3270 in conjunction with TCP/IP.

- Longden

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On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, James P. Grenert wrote:

> It was pointed out that the TREMM driver from Times2Tech only works on 4
> MB models.  Actually, that is not true.  I had Mack (the head honcho at
> T2T) upgrade my measly 1 MB 200LX to a measly 2 MB, and he included the
> TREMM driver for me.  It works great with MAXDOS and Windows 3.0.

I think the original poster meant that the TREMM driver only worked with
T2T upgraded memory (as opposed to new off-the-shelf HP 4mb models or
other rival 3rd party upgrades).

Probably neither he (nor I for that matter) realized that T2T offered a
1mb upgrade for $75 since we (and most others) went for the $199 4mb
upgrade which is the only one Mack offers on his website
(www.times2tech.com) and is the most cost-effective (if you can afford
the added $125).

- Longden

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My experience with digital images on the 200 has been pretty dismal.
With only 4 shades of gray (I think), anything other than an almost
black and white image looks bad.  I have taken some line drawings that
were basically black and white and used them on the 200 and they look
ok.  The only real use I could see for the 200 would be to transport
image files.

Bill Childers wrote:

> I'm preparing to purchase a new digital camera.  I'll probably wind up
>
> getting the Kodak DC25, due to price constraints.  I really want a
> camera
> with an LCD screen to preview pictures on, which cinches the DC25 for
> me.
> I intend to use the 200LX and my 20MB flash as a "photo album" while
> I'm
> out on trips, etc.  Has anyone successfully used this combo?  I
> understand
> that the only difference between the DC20 and DC25 is the 25 has a
> built-in
> flash, 2 megs of ram,  a card slot, and the LCD... so I believe that
> LXDC
> may work. (Hopefully... if not, there's also DC20Term.exe.)  Please
> email
> me with any tales of the 200LX and a digital camera... or even just
> your
> "take" on the whole digital camera issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Childers
>
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> parkway and park
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From:         Waldemar Kowalski <wally@NCAG.EDU>
Subject:      Re: pouches...again!

I have a Pouch (fairly low-tech appearing, neoprene, not protected on top
(just a velcro strap)), a Ripoffs case (I think it's the Belt Holster, but
don't have the catalog in front of me) and a C.O.P.S. case (available from
the maker, who'll tailor it to your specs and also makes great cell phone
cases (hint: I had him make my flip phone case so that the phone sits
horizontally, kept in place by the velcro cover - doesn't dig into my leg in
the car)).

The latter two are very similar, with the following differences: the Ripoffs
case is somewhat bigger, has a bit of padding and offers slightly more
protection, and has a pocket for PC cards (where I keep my driver's license
and a few credit cards). The C.O.P.S. case has a much better clip: shorter
in length, stiffer, and it has NEVER come off my belt, whereas the Ripoffs
case does several times a week. I tend to use the Ripoffs case, though, and
simply put a wrap tie around the clip (location is obvious when you look at
the clip) and have the best of all situations, as far as I'm concerned. The
really ideal case would have the C.O.P.S. clip on the Ripoffs case...
wally

>I want to get a belt pouch for my 200 and see that EduCalc has two:
>"The Pouch" and "The Belt Holster".  The descriptions and pictures
>are a little on the lame side so I have some questions:
>

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Anyone have any ideas for this?

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I got the HP1011A at staples on a close-out for $10.00 dollars.  At that
price I bought two.

Hope this helps.

Xerxez


At 04:07 PM 8/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>You can get an adapter/charger (part number hp1011A  -- Call 805-371-9454
>
>At 06:10 PM 8/6/97 UT, you wrote:
>>Anyone know the best place to acquire an AC adapter for the 100?  I got mine
>>used and it did not have one.  I am sure I could buy one from HP for
probably
>>around $20.
>>
>>Ed Manuel
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:33:12 +0300, David Becher wrote:

>The August 1997 issue of "Byte" magazine had two articles about =
palmtops.
>One was a discussion about WinCE which was all "Gee Wizz what a =
wonderful
>thing" and the other was a comparison of all the leading palmtops. HP320
>Psion etc etc. The only palmtop which was not mentioned was the HP200! =
Who
>says that HP is not trying to kill us off?

I would suggest it's not HP, but the magazine journalists who are
trying their utmost to ignore the HP200. It's in their interest to
push the latest whizzy gadgets regardless of suitability. Who would
trust a journalist who recommended a gadget that's been around for
more than 6 months!

--=20
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Subject:      Re: Reading Microsoft Mail (Exchange) off-line with the HP200LX
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Anyone have any ideas for this?

I kludged mine by setting up MSX to forward incoming mail to the ISP
supported by my LX and then using NetTamer.

Let me know when you find something better!

- Longden

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Neil Tungate wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:33:12 +0300, David Becher wrote:
>
> >The August 1997 issue of "Byte" magazine had two articles about palmtops.
> >One was a discussion about WinCE which was all "Gee Wizz what a wonderful
> >thing" and the other was a comparison of all the leading palmtops. HP320
> >Psion etc etc. The only palmtop which was not mentioned was the HP200! Who
> >says that HP is not trying to kill us off?
>
> I would suggest it's not HP, but the magazine journalists who are
> trying their utmost to ignore the HP200. It's in their interest to
> push the latest whizzy gadgets regardless of suitability. Who would
> trust a journalist who recommended a gadget that's been around for
> more than 6 months!
>
> --
> Neil Tungate.
> http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk
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I'M NOT SHOUTING BUT MAYBE I SHOULD BE

SO WHATS NEW. THE ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA HAS A NOTORIOUS HISTORY OF
YELLOW JOURNALISM. BYTE JUST JOINED THE CROWD AND SAID "ME TO".

LOTS OF JOURNALISTS CAN DO NOTHING BUT DESTRUCTIVE CRITS.

SHOULD WE EXPECT BYTE TO BE OF ANY HIGHER STANDARD NOW. I USED TO BE,
BUT
I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO WASTE ON IT ANY MORE.

I WISH I COULD GET A LIFE TIME GUARENTEE IN MY HP 200LX AT THAT IT WOULD
BE WORTH TWICE THE PRICE.

BOYD S. MINER, K4KEP

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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:26:09 -0500
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>From:  BOYD S. MINERÝSMTP:k4kep@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
>Sent:  Monday, August 11, 1997 12:55 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Byte Magazine
>
>
>I'M NOT SHOUTING BUT MAYBE I SHOULD BE

YOUR POINT ABOUT CAPS BEING EASY TO READ IS CORRECT.  LEAD ON!

><SNIP>
>
>I WISH I COULD GET A LIFE TIME GUARENTEE IN MY HP 200LX AT THAT IT WOULD
>BE WORTH TWICE THE PRICE.

OPINION: TWO HP200LXS _ARE_ A LIFETIME.  :)

>BOYD S. MINER, K4KEP
>

pHIL  :)

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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:15:25 -0400
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Ditto. I canceled my Byte subscription 6 months ago, after 13 yrs, for the
same reason.

>SO WHATS NEW. THE ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA HAS A NOTORIOUS HISTORY >OF
>YELLOW JOURNALISM. BYTE JUST JOINED THE CROWD AND SAID "ME TO".

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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:31:25 PDT
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From:         Michael S Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>
Subject:      Re: DialUp 3270 terminal
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This would be Advantis Passport for DOS?  I use the Windows version to log
into work all the time.  I don't have room on my HP200LX right now, but I
hope to remedy that soon.  This would be ideal for those times that I need
to travel and am on-call for problems at work.

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> On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Al Kind wrote:
> >         I asked this question on the other list, but I'm asking again
> > in case anyone has made any progress: Has anyone had any success
> > running a 3270 terminal emulation package on the HPLX? I know about the
> > Clarkson package on SUPER, but has any one got it working with a dialup
> > TCP/IP?
>
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> On Mon, 11 Aug, Longden C. Loo wrote:
> Al,
>
> I ran Advantis on the palmtop for a while (all of 1 week). It did pretty
> good emulation, but I chucked it in favor of running tn3270 via my shell
> account at work (accessed via Datacomm) cuz my 3270 needs are/were light
> and Advantis was more trouble than it was worth to use (2-3 mb disk space,
> another password to track, another set of phone numbers to track, etc).
>
> Haven't tried Clarkson or any other 3270 in conjunction with TCP/IP.
>
> - Longden

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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:35:32 -0700
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From:         Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: WANTED! ---> Reading Netscape email on HP
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Thanks for posing this question! I tried the the messy solution (copying
.mdbx files to my HP and

using VR to read them.  Wow! I was able to read a lot of mail that I had
been neglecting and it

was fun being able to do it while at lunch, waiting for the commute
train, standing in line waiting

to register my car, etc.


I have a DOS software agent that helps me move the files to my HP.
Currently the agent doesn't do much--

it just changes to the proper directory and starts the connectivity kit
program and makes the connection to the LX200.

That way I don't have to remember all the keystorkes needed.  I plan to
automate the process further.


 The DOS software agent program is EasyShare, which is really quite
powerful.  Easyshare lets you integrate applications

that weren't originally intended to work together.   You can "scap" data
off one screen and plug it into another

screen on another application.  I used EasyShare to help me move 200
names and addresses from a flat file

into the HP phone book.  I tried converting the comma delimited file to
the phone book, but the conversion

wouldn't work and I got no error messages in the log file.  So as a
workaround, I just had Easyshare read the file and

"type" the info into the phone book for me automatically.



At 05:54 PM 8/10/97 -0700, John Ramos wrote:

>>>>

<excerpt>At 05:44 PM 8/10/97 -0700, you wrote:

>>>>

<excerpt>Try Net Tamer, when you figure it out, let us know!


<underline>http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/

</underline>

JR



At 09:08 AM 8/11/97 +0000, you wrote:

>>  In my case, I would like to download the mail to my desktop PC, then
export

>> the files to the palmtop.

>>

>> I'm using Microsoft's Internet Mail and News, which only allows
exporting

>> to Microsoft Exchange.

>>

>> One solution is to transfer the mailbox (.mbx) files to the palmtop,
then

>> use

>> filer or list.exe to view them in dos, but thats messy.

>>

>> Any better solutions?

>>

> Why don't you use Pegasus mail.

>they are version for dos, win3.1 and wn95/nt.

>They are free software.

>It's possible to use dos or windows software with the same data.

>

>Alain

>

>regards

>

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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:38:40 -0700
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Let's write to Byte magazine and let readers know the benefits of the
200LX!   I'm
sure they'd publish some of our letters at least!


At 08:33 AM 8/11/97 +0300, David Becher wrote:
>The August 1997 issue of "Byte" magazine had two articles about palmtops.
>One was a discussion about WinCE which was all "Gee Wizz what a wonderful
>thing" and the other was a comparison of all the leading palmtops. HP320
>Psion etc etc. The only palmtop which was not mentioned was the HP200! Who
>says that HP is not trying to kill us off?
>
>
>------------------------
>David Becher
>(davidb@netmedia.net.il)
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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:42:11 -0700
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How do you like NetTamer?  Is it difficult to setup? Use?
What modem do you recommend?


At 10:27 AM 8/11/97 -0700, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any ideas for this?
>
>I kludged mine by setting up MSX to forward incoming mail to the ISP
>supported by my LX and then using NetTamer.
>
>Let me know when you find something better!
>
>- Longden
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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:37:22 -0700
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Get a free e-mail account on hotmail.com and then browse your mail on
the LX with a web browser. Hotmail will access pop servers too.

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> > Anyone have any ideas for this?
>
> I kludged mine by setting up MSX to forward incoming mail to the ISP
> supported by my LX and then using NetTamer.
>
> Let me know when you find something better!
>
> - Longden

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From:         Sergey Kozhemyakin <serge@WVB.GOMEL.BY>
Subject:      Re: TECH: Calculated Fields in database

There is programm by Harry Constas (72540.620@compuserve.com)
DBCalc 1.02: HP Database calculator
it has functions like: SUM, AVG, MIN, MAX
try

Serge

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From:   d.hendraÝSMTP:dxhendra@USA.NET¨
Sent:   4 èþëÿ 1997 ã. 0:49
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        TECH: Calculated Fields in database

Hello everyone,
I have been trying to look for a "calculated field" in the built-in
database of 200LX. However, it seems to me the database does not provide
such type of field. Is there a way to define a calculated field there?.
Thanks in advance.

Regards.

dxhendra@usa.net

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Subject:      Re: Megahertz XJ1144

Hi there!
I'm using exactly the same model. Works fine. So I suppose it is something else.

Serge
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From:   Ed ManuelÝSMTP:n5em-qrp@MSN.COM¨
Sent:   5 àâãóñòà 1997 ã. 1:00
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

Gang

Got a new/used Megahertz XJ1144 from one on the list.  (Smiles)
Powered down the HP100LX like a good user.
Inserted the modem and hit the on button. . . and hit the on button . . . and
hit the on button.
Nada.  Zip. (Frowns)
Said to self, "Self, we have a problem."
Removed said modem card. Hit the on button.
Zip.  Dead as a hammer.  (Minor panic)
Removed all batteries and did a brain dead cold start.  Got it back OK.
(Great sigh of relief).
Modem checks out fine in the big notebook.

What's the deal here?  Anybody been there before?  The XJ1144 is supposed to
be within the 150 ma. limit.

Ed Manuel
Houston

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I have had the same experience with PC World.  They seem to see every sin=
gle
palmtop made (including the Psion, which is an OmniGo.)  But, where's the=
 200?

Left by the wayside.  It had its roots in 1991, can't be any good now, =
or so the
computer journalists say.  I have not seen any mention of the 200LX in =
any issue
dealing with palmtops.  Perhaps they are scared to touch a gadget that =
actually
works ;)....

Naturally, I'm cancelling my subscription to that magazine in order to =
subscribe to
something more interesting, such as the Palmtop Paper, or Linux Journal. =
 Never
could stand the arrogance of IDG publications, anyway....

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
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> I would suggest it's not HP, but the magazine journalists who are
> trying their utmost to ignore the HP200. It's in their interest to
> push the latest whizzy gadgets regardless of suitability. Who would
> trust a journalist who recommended a gadget that's been around for
> more than 6 months!

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There are a couple of problems hooking the Palmtop up to solar power. The
first is that the power in jack requires 9.6 to 14 volts, therefoe you
need a 12volt solar cell. Since about 100ma is required a 12 Volt 1 watt
panel would be needed (about $A38. This is about 150*150 mm which is the
same length but twice the width of the display. A regulator would also be
required since the panel is quite cabable of putting out 18 volts unloaded
which may cause the dc to dc converter inside the palmtop to go BANG! A
simple Zener diode would do the trick though. This arrangement could be
used with nicads for the palmtop user on the go. I've never tried this,
prefering to plug my palmtop into my household 12 solar supply (150 Watts
of solar)
Hope this has helped,
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I don't own a digital camera and so I can't comment

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I don't have a digital camera so I can't comment whether or not this is a
software problem but I do have a question. If you are using a standard hp
serial cable are you also using a null modem adapter between the hp and DC25
cable. The default hp cable is wired as a null modem with the recieve and
transmit wires swapped. You will need an addition null modem adapter to
change the hp cable into a normal serial cable. The DC cable expects to be
hook to a standard serial port and this may be your problem. Let me knew if
this cures your problem.

Good luck

Angelica

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Its a nice thought but K-Mart has 8-packs of Rayovac alkalines for
US$4, which is a lot less than the r&d required to make that kind of
device.  It might be an interesting thought for NiCd recharging tho,
if you could make the cells produce 12 volts.  Just leave the thing
in the sun and when you come back it's freshly recharged.

Intriguing.  I encourage you to look into it further.

Ian Butler
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> For AUS$2 one can purchase a basic credit-card-sized calculator that
> handles 8 digits and one memory using only a tiny strip of solar
> cells.  These take up just over 2 square centimetres and are capable
> of operating the unit in a light that is barely enough to see in.
> Apart of course from the basic functions, this array of cells supports
> a display area of virtually the same size.

<snip>

> Alternatively, the array could be detachable from the palmtop to
> maximise positioning for available light and a short connector used
> via the external jack as currently used for the adapter.  There is
> nothing technically impossible in all of this - the question is
> whether it is feasible at a reasonable price and whether it would
> sell.  Maybe it is something for Japanese innovation or Mack Baguette
> (are you reading this, Mack?).

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What are the setup's for Nettamer?
Tring to connect to Compuserve with no luck



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Subject:      Re: DialUp 3270 terminal
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Michael S Goggin wrote:

> This would be Advantis Passport for DOS?  I use the Windows version to log

Yes. I installed it on a notebook first and then copied the entire
directory to the 200.

> into work all the time.  I don't have room on my HP200LX right now, but I
> hope to remedy that soon.  This would be ideal for those times that I need
> to travel and am on-call for problems at work.

As I said, I tried it quite a while ago and then only for a few days. I
seem to recall some lockup problems in using hot-keys....but don't
remember the details (nor the version number)...otherwise it looked and
acted 3270'ish.

I had been running tn3270 off my shell account at work as a work-around
and went back to that since it required no new passwords, phone numbers,
account numbers nor any disk space on the LX. Many of the 3270 special
keys were only marginally functional under tn3270, but adequate for my
needs (offsite timecard entry, mainframe email, mainframe batch job
submittal and query....all occasional).

- Longden

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Hi all Programmers!

Maybe have you seen that NKIT is now available on the SUPER page! If=
 you are
interested in making EXM program for the 100/200LX, this is a great=
 tool just
for that. Using Turbo C, NKIT and The HP 100LX/200LX Developer's
Guide, and you will be able to do your own EXM programs. As you probably=
 know,
EXM programs has many advantages over an EXE programs and the resulting=
 size
of the file is one.

If you start to use NKIT, you will probably realize why there are so=
 many EXM
programs from Japan! I sincerely hope that we will now see more EXM=
 programs
for our dear palmtop. It's easy to use and dosen't look so complicated=
 as the
original EXM developing kit.


Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. I am not a programmer, so I am not the right person to contact=
 regarding
these kind of questions. But if I can assist you in some way, please=
 contact
me.


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Subject:      Re: Reading Microsoft Mail (Exchange) off-line with the HP200LX
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:

> How do you like NetTamer?  Is it difficult to setup? Use?
> What modem do you recommend?

I had no problems setting it up, tho I hear from others that the
difficulty varies quite a bit by version (I use 1.08) and ISP (I use ATT
WorldNet). I don't think it took me more than 30min to get it working.

Probably took more time to figure out how to use it (well), since I had
never used an off-line mail reader before and the menus and documentation
sometimes leave you guessing.

From the past comments, it seems POST/LX is at least an equally viable
solution (that I haven't tried yet...guess I'm a sucker for pain <g>).

Back to MS Exchange....the only problem with the automatic forwarding to
my ISP is a slight time delay (usually about 15 min) and more importantly,
the received mail on my ISP loses the original "From:" email address, cuz
MSX forwarding makes all the forwarded mail come from ME (there doesn't
seem to be a RESEND vs FORWARD feature in MSX). The original sender is
denoted in the quoted area of the note tho.

Lastly, I use a Megahertz XJ3144 (14.4k) modem with no special setups in
NT. I haven't used any other modem, so I don't have anything else to
compare it to.

BTW, I also run NT on my 486 desktop at home (along with Eudora/Trumpet).
With several teens in my family vying for online time, NT lets me
read/reply to my email with the smallest window of connect time (when I
don't feel like plugging in the LX)...also I like using something noone
else will touch...maybe that's why we're all still using the LX <g>.

- Longden

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Since I couldn't get what I wanted from the guys that made the
"PhoneWorks ToGo!" PCMCIA modem that I bought, I conducted a
very scientific test to see if it was any good.

I got 2 brand new batteries and tested them to be 1.588 and
1.590 volts.  Put them and the modem in my HP200 and used the
modem for 1 hour constantly.  The battery meter (can you really
call it that?) went down as far as 1/4 available without ever
complaining that the main batteries were low.  After the hour
I pulled the batteries and checked them again and got 1.342
and 1.343 volts.  Is this good/acceptable/reasonable/etc.?

If so, I have access to over 50 of these things still factory wrapped
for a reasonable price (I can probably get them for ~$40 or so) and
would be willing to send them off to folks.

If not, then I have to return it before my five days are up (today!).

From the box:

PCMCIA card with some junky (for windows!) software that I didn't
       even look at
14.4 Fax/Data/Voice
Voice mail (you can connect your phone handset to this thing and
       listen and leave messages, I guess.  More windows junk.)

It is rated at 600mW operating, 50 mW typical.

Other than the possible battery eating abilities it showed, I had
absolutely no problems using this modem in my HP200LX.

jaime

ÝOh, yeah.  Anyone looking for a USR WorldPort 9696 modem?  I found
two of them at the same place for about the same price.  I don't
remember if they were opened or not.¨
--
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jviehweg@lucent.com  |  Globeview 2000 Lab Support

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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:
>
> > How do you like NetTamer?  Is it difficult to setup? Use?
> > What modem do you recommend?
>
> I had no problems setting it up, tho I hear from others that the
> difficulty varies quite a bit by version (I use 1.08) and ISP (I use
> ATT
> WorldNet). I don't think it took me more than 30min to get it working.
>
> Probably took more time to figure out how to use it (well), since I
> had
> never used an off-line mail reader before and the menus and
> documentation
> sometimes leave you guessing.
>
> >From the past comments, it seems POST/LX is at least an equally
> viable
> solution (that I haven't tried yet...guess I'm a sucker for pain <g>).

Perhaps because I am new to the mailing list, I have not heard of
POST/LX. Is it by the people who make WWW/LX? (D&A?) I run Nettamer
pop-mail well on my Erol's account in the states, but have had some
problems connecting in Japan to a Japanese provider. The UI on the
off-line e-mail reader IS a bit challenging. If the POST/LX UI is
cleaner, well then...

-j

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>I sincerely hope that we will now see more EXM=
> programs
>for our dear palmtop. It's easy to use and dosen't look so complicated=
> as the
>original EXM developing kit.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen
I think the system manager of the 200 can't handle more than 12 EXM prog
so it can be great to have more exm prog only if someone can pass the
"12 EXM Limit".

                        F.X.

ps: may be i'm wrong on the number but i know there is a limit 8,
10,12... that doesn't matter i'm sure someday someone will have to go
over the limit...(remember 640ko of memory).


"The hardest thing to open is a closed mind..."
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albouy@hotmail.com
Francois-Xavier Albouy
EPF (France)
ETS (Canada)
Studient in system engineering,
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On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Joe Rooney wrote:
>
> Perhaps because I am new to the mailing list, I have not heard of
> POST/LX. Is it by the people who make WWW/LX? (D&A?) I run Nettamer
> pop-mail well on my Erol's account in the states, but have had some
> problems connecting in Japan to a Japanese provider. The UI on the
> off-line e-mail reader IS a bit challenging. If the POST/LX UI is
> cleaner, well then...

You're correct...POST/LX is also made by D&A (you may want to check out
http://www.dasoft.com).

POST/LX users will have to comment to you on the particulars of the UI.

- Longden

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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:
>  The DOS software agent program is EasyShare, which is really quite
> powerful.  Easyshare lets you integrate applications
> that weren't originally intended to work together.   You can "scap" data
> off one screen and plug it into another

snip
>
> wouldn't work and I got no error messages in the log file.  So as a
> workaround, I just had Easyshare read the file and
> "type" the info into the phone book for me automatically.

Very  interesting!  Where do I get EasyShare?

Domingo

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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Bob Aldrich wrote:
> Get a free e-mail account on hotmail.com and then browse your mail on
> the LX with a web browser. Hotmail will access pop servers too.
>

Is there a web browser *small* enough and *fast* enough to run on the
hplx?   Surely not Nettamer or Minuet?

Domingo

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>
> >I sincerely hope that we will now see more EXM=
> > programs
> >for our dear palmtop. It's easy to use and dosen't look so complicated=
> > as the
> >original EXM developing kit.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Jorgen
> I think the system manager of the 200 can't handle more than 12 EXM prog
> so it can be great to have more exm prog only if someone can pass the
> "12 EXM Limit".

Try a program called moreexm! It does what it says!
>
>                         F.X.
>
> ps: may be i'm wrong on the number but i know there is a limit 8,
> 10,12... that doesn't matter i'm sure someday someone will have to go
> over the limit...(remember 640ko of memory).
>
>

  regards,

      Simon Block.

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>I think the system manager of the 200 can't handle more than 12 EXM=
 prog
>so it can be great to have more exm prog only if someone can pass the
>"12 EXM Limit".
>
>                        F.X.
>
>ps: may be i'm wrong on the number but i know there is a limit 8,
>10,12... that doesn't matter i'm sure someday someone will have to=
 go
>over the limit...(remember 640ko of memory).

Hi,

I can inform you that you are wrong there. We have much to thank the=
 Japanese
programmers for. Among many programs I can mention- MOREEXM. I have=
 currently
28 EXM programs on my HP 200LX and it's easy to run them from an icon=
 using
SMMX- currently I have 12 different menus (including the original one).=
 So I
hope that programmers outside Japan will take a look at NKIT. Since=
 all the
functions for the menus, buttons etc are already built-in in the palmtop,=
 a
program that usually takes about 25K compiled with Turbo C to an EXE=
 program,
will approx take about 3K if you make it as an EXM program.

Regards,

Jorgen
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Thanks to all the people who responded on my questions regarding the 200
and a digital camera.  For those who are interested, I wound up taking back
the Kodak DC 25 due to inadequate picture quality and wound up getting a
Sony Mavica MVC-FD5.  It takes great pictures and uses regular 1.44M 3.5"
floppies as its storage medium, so I don't need the connectivity to the
palmtop anymore.

Bill


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On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:33:05 +1000, Peter Scarth wrote:

>There are a couple of problems hooking the Palmtop up to solar power. =
The
>first is that the power in jack requires 9.6 to 14 volts, therefoe you
>need a 12volt solar cell. Since about 100ma is required a 12 Volt 1 watt
>panel would be needed (about $A38. This is about 150*150 mm which is the
>same length but twice the width of the display. A regulator would also =
be
>required since the panel is quite cabable of putting out 18 volts =
unloaded
>which may cause the dc to dc converter inside the palmtop to go BANG! A
>simple Zener diode would do the trick though. This arrangement could be
>used with nicads for the palmtop user on the go. I've never tried this,
>prefering to plug my palmtop into my household 12 solar supply (150 =
Watts
>of solar)

Here in the UK, Maplin sell a multi-voltage solar battery charger
panel (part no. CJ38R). It gives out a switchable 3/6/9 volts
(presumably regulated, but I'll need to check). It's rated at 50 mA on
the 6 and 9 volt ranges, which may not be sufficient to run the HP but
should certainly trickle charge the NiCads OK. At a mere 11.21 UKP I'm
very tempted to get one. Even if it doesn't work, it has a holder for
2 AA cells built in, so is still a useful gadget :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate.
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I have seen that camera advertised somewhere, if you don't mind me
asking, how much does it cost?
>----------
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>
>Thanks to all the people who responded on my questions regarding the 200
>and a digital camera.  For those who are interested, I wound up taking back
>the Kodak DC 25 due to inadequate picture quality and wound up getting a
>Sony Mavica MVC-FD5.  It takes great pictures and uses regular 1.44M 3.5"
>floppies as its storage medium, so I don't need the connectivity to the
>palmtop anymore.
>
>Bill
>
>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Re: Digital photos

> Thanks to all the people who responded on my questions regarding the 200
> and a digital camera.  For those who are interested, I wound up taking back
> the Kodak DC 25 due to inadequate picture quality and wound up getting a
> Sony Mavica MVC-FD5.  It takes great pictures and uses regular 1.44M 3.5"
> floppies as its storage medium, so I don't need the connectivity to the
> palmtop anymore.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Bill Childers                                   * Ethernet (n):

I was very curious about that camera. How well does it work? Also, what
type batteries does it use and about how many pictures per set/charge? Does
it write the floppy in standard DOS format readable on any DOS machine?
The idea of using a floppy for storage is very appealing, even if it only
stores a few pictures per floppy they are so cheap and compact you could
carry quite a few. I have a Ricoh RDC-2 which is nice and uses regular ATA
flash ram cards for storage but they are still a little expensive and it is
rather picky about the cards it works with.

Pete


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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> I can inform you that you are wrong there. We have much to thank the
> Japanese
> programmers for. Among many programs I can mention- MOREEXM. I have
> currently
> 28 EXM programs on my HP 200LX and it's easy to run them from an icon
> using
> SMMX- currently I have 12 different menus (including the original
> one). So I
> hope that programmers outside Japan will take a look at NKIT. Since
> all the
> functions for the menus, buttons etc are already built-in in the
> palmtop, a
> program that usually takes about 25K compiled with Turbo C to an EXE
> program,
> will approx take about 3K if you make it as an EXM program.

What we need is a tutorial detailing exactly what format to use when
using built in code on the palmtop.  The SDK is helpful, but it contains
no examples, so people who are trying to learn to program EXMs could
become confused.  A guide to the many different functions in ROM,
including the BIOS calls, explaining how they are used and giving
examples, would be a great asset to the palmtop community.  I've done
some programming using the built-in functions, but I think it would be
much easier and more common with examples and details on the functions.

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The author has expressed a willingness to offer us a version that is
compatible with the HP100/200LX CGA screen - any interest?
/mark

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I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:

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ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/bobby14.zip   1088831 bytes

bobby14.zip     BOBBY v1.4: Full graphical file manager

BOBBY is a graphicalized file managing DOS prompt replacer program that
gives you the capabilities of all disk activities with special features
like playing sounds, showing pictures, running your favorite programs all
from a click of a specific pre-defined button that is either built into
the program or from commands provided by you for a button.  Fully QEMM
compatible.  Works under Win3.1/95.  Comprehensive manual and online
help.

Special requirements: VGA Graphics display and mouse.

Changes: Bug fixes.  Fully QEMM Compatible.

bobby14.zip has replaced bobby13b.zip.

Public Domain.  Uploaded by the author.

Jimmy and Jon Yergaw
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Subject:      cd player ???

has anyone found a portable cd player with pcmcia interface which will work
with the hp200lx?  when out of town, i take a music cd player, anyway so the
machine would not add to my load, if there was a dual use machine which would
work.  there is a ton of text-based stuff which would be nice to take along,
if it worked.

alternatively, is there anyone who has tried one of the ones that looks like
it should work, and found that it did not?

thanks for your advice.

lynn m. cavendish

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I've had a few people ask me about the type of digital camera I
purchased... so I'm putting a mini-review of it here.   If you're not
interested, please skip this article.

The Sony Mavica MVC-FD5 is one of two members in the new Mavica digital
family.  It's approximately 4.5" W x 4.5"H x 2" D.

It weighs about the same as a good SLR camera.  It is unique among other
digital cameras in that it uses a 3.5" floppy disk for its recording
medium.  The camera has a 640x480 resolution, and can capture 24-bit color.
 Up to 40 "standard" quality images can be saved on a single floppy, or 20
"fine" images.  The difference between the "standard" and fine images is
the level of JPEG compression.

The camera has its own built-in flash, and it uses a color LCD display for
its viewfinder.  The LCD also doubles as an information display and a way
to look at the pictures you've taken.  The camera also has a macro function
that allows you to take shots as close as 8cm from the lens.

The camera uses a Lithium-Ion rechargeable battery, one that's in common
with their newer camcorders (or so I'm told).  The advertised charge life
is 2 hours, or 500 shots without flash.  I assume that running the flash
will considerably eat into battery time, however, having a rechargeable is
much better than plugging in alkalines or those expensive one-use lithiums.

Overall, I rather like it, although I've only taken about 25 snapshots with
it.  The quality is far improved over the Kodak DC25 I tried, and at $499
retail, it's not a bad purchase.  The biggest flaws I can see are:
Approximately 8 seconds between shots so the floppy can save the picture.
No zoom.
Somewhat bulky compared to the newer APS (film) cameras.
However, I'm willing to live with those limitations... I plan on using this
unit for web work... where it turns out a most pleasant picture.

For those of you who crave zoom capabilities, the MVC-FD7 will be coming
out in September which will include a 10X power zoom, and built-in special
effects.

For more info, hit Sony's web page at:
http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/mavica/

I'm not an employee of Sony, just a (so far) satisfied customer.  I also
hope I haven't ticked anyone off by putting this here... I know it's a
palmtop list, but the response I got from people seemed to warrant it.

Bill

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     Hi!
     Yes! I am.

     Helmut in Colorado


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The author has expressed a willingness to offer us a version that is
compatible with the HP100/200LX CGA screen - any interest?
/mark

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bobby14.zip     BOBBY v1.4: Full graphical file manager

BOBBY is a graphicalized file managing DOS prompt replacer program that
gives you the capabilities of all disk activities with special features
like playing sounds, showing pictures, running your favorite programs all
from a click of a specific pre-defined button that is either built into
the program or from commands provided by you for a button.  Fully QEMM
compatible.  Works under Win3.1/95.  Comprehensive manual and online
help.

Special requirements: VGA Graphics display and mouse.

Changes: Bug fixes.  Fully QEMM Compatible.

bobby14.zip has replaced bobby13b.zip.

Public Domain.  Uploaded by the author.

Jimmy and Jon Yergaw
ljaques@odyssey.on.ca


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Does the software that comes included with the Connectivity Pack have a
windows interface?  Can it be used with a mouse?

Thanks -
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Can anyone tell me where to get SMMX? I am currently using moreexm and
would like to launch the exm`s using the icons.

Thanks in advance.

Xerxez.


Xerxez M. Calilung, D.D.S.
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Yes I would like to give it a try!

Rodger

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The author has expressed a willingness to offer us a version that is
compatible with the HP100/200LX CGA screen - any interest?
/mark

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Help again:

Can anybody tell me how can I get repaired an HP200LX keyboard whose
buttons' contacts began to fail.
For repairing the unit HP asks a price higher than the street price of a
new unit !

I live in Europe but, depending on the price, it may compensate to send the
unit to USA.

Jose' Patrao
PPTUG-Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
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At 12:08 PM 8/10/97 +0500, you wrote:
>In response to the handful of posts on this topic:
>
>Sounds like someone ought to investigate the possibility of an app
>which would parse your desktop email and produce a UQWK-style
>package, which could then be read by a DOS app on the LX, perhaps the
>Palmtop News Reader.
>

Ok.  Its time I reveal my little secret.  Iam working on a Windows based
app that would talk to the pop and smtp server and generate UQWK packets
that can be then transferred to the palmtop and read using PNR.  Iam
actually planning to write a good UQWK client on the palmtop but right now
it has to be PNR.  I know that this is not necessarily what the initial
poster was looking out for but if the mail on the POP server is left
without deletion, it can be shared between both the desktop and palmtop
quite easily without any messy importing.

>  * UQWK format. Probably need to grab some UQWK UNIX source code,
>unless someone has a source of UQWK specs. Altavista turned up
>http://shrine.cyber.ad.jp/~jwt/uqwk/ for starters. There's apps at:
>http://www.cpdee.ufmg.br/simtel/simtel_index_offline.html

This has been a surprisingly troublesome issue for me too.  I have not been
able to find a good spec for QWK.  Is one available?  Does anybody know?
I will check out those sites.  Thanks Peter.


Comments ?   Please let me know

Vivek

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ip202682 wrote:
>
> Help again:
>
> Can anybody tell me how can I get repaired an HP200LX keyboard whose
> buttons' contacts began to fail.
> For repairing the unit HP asks a price higher than the street price of a
> new unit !
>
> I live in Europe but, depending on the price, it may compensate to send the
> unit to USA.
>
> Jose' Patrao
> PPTUG-Portuguese Palmtop Users Group
> jap@ip.pt
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Send an email to Mack@Times2Tech.  They sell memory upgrades and speed
upgrades but I believe they also do repairs.  They are in Alabama.

Jim Smith

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Sorry, Dunno about that. Just an idea. Seems as long as you didn't load
graphics it'd be as fast as any text input. Like e-mail.

Bob

ddv wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Bob Aldrich wrote:
> > Get a free e-mail account on hotmail.com and then browse your mail on
> > the LX with a web browser. Hotmail will access pop servers too.
> >
>
> Is there a web browser *small* enough and *fast* enough to run on the
> hplx?   Surely not Nettamer or Minuet?
>
> Domingo

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It can be run as a DOS app under Windows with the included APP100.PIF file
in the command line and APP100.ICO as the icon file.

If you don't use the default directories, you will need to edit the PIF
file  before exiting.  I haven't seen any evidence of mouse support though.

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> windows interface?  Can it be used with a mouse?
>
> Thanks -
> Carol

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No, alas, it's written for dos only and CGA stuff. I have it and it's a big
disappointment. I bought it and returned it, it can do some things, but
crude. HP isn't going forward with anything to do with the 200 series. If
you want "Pocket Quicken" you can get it from Intuit, called "Pocket
Quicken Direct" for $29.95. Written for Win 3.1 but supports latest
versions of Quicken. Mouse? No mouse support unless you install it for DOS.

I get the feeling that HP is being really stupid with the 200LX, they have
a great "base" of users, and are being led by the nose down the Microsoft
path! But...What can I say, Microsoft IS THE FUTURE!?

Thanks for that Billy! Remember where you came from and let a few of survive!

JR

At 06:35 PM 8/12/97 -0600, you wrote:
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>windows interface?  Can it be used with a mouse?
>
>Thanks -
>Carol
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Ok, this is wacky, but ...

Does a desktop monitor emit infrared radiation? I'd guess so.

So why not hold you hp200lx up to your desktop monitor, to download stuff
by flashing the screen? (like some data-holding watches do). The baud-rate
would be pretty low (max of 50 or 60 bits per second) But this would be
convenient to transfer reference stuff; eg the phone number you looked up
on the on-line phone-book; the journal reference, the catalog number of a
book in the library etc.

So, am I crazy? Also, what do you think of this idea?

Brendan

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Yes, one guy is going to try to make the connection.
The Newton keyboard looks to me to be full sized!  You
could certainly touch type on it.

The diagrams for making it are said to be in the
compressed file that comes with the driver.

I'll keep you informed.  Have you looked at the pictures of it?  See below.

++++++++++++++++


>From memory, there is a pretty good description of how to make this connector
in the driver's archive file that you already have. If you would like to see
some more pictures of the connector and of the keyboard, I have placed them on
my web server:

http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton1.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton2.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton3.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton4.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton5.jpg
http://www.palmtop.net/img/newton6.jpg

Mitch

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o: pseyer@best.com
Subject: Re: About custom connector for Newton

Dear Mr. Philip Seyer,

This is Adachi.

   >>Can you suggest where or how I get a connection to the Newton Keyboard?

If you live in U.S. , I don't know how to buy the electric parts to
make a special cable for Newton Keyboard.

Please inquire in HPHAND that forum in CompuServe(BBS), NetNews,
Computer D.I.Y. or electrical store clerks in U.S. I have no
information about how to obtain the electric parts in U.S. Sorry.

Regards,

--
K.Adachi




At 08:55 PM 8/9/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Philip,
>        Did you get any responses about the keyboard cable?
>
>        How big is the Newton keyboard, can it be touch-typed on?
>
>        Bob Aldrich
>        Los Angeles
>
>Philip Seyer wrote:
>>
>> I got a HP 200LX driver for the external Newton keyboard, which I would
>> love to connect to my HP 200 LX.
>> I need make or get a hold of a connector to the Newton keyboard.
>>
>>  ===> Can anyone make one of these for me (for $$$ of course)
>> or refer me to where I can get such a connector?
>>
>> BTW, the driver is available from:
>>
>>       http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
>> ===========================================================================
>> Philip Seyer -- author of  *What Makes Music Work* --
>> "A lucid, well-organzied introduction to music theory" -- American Library
>> Association
>> http://www.http://www.ilovemusic.com/argentin.htm         --
>> http://www.ilovemusic.com
>> (Free 19 cent a minute calling cards.)        Phone:  415-665-8933
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I got EasyShare from Adisoft in 1991.  Adisoft was purchased by EDP Auditing.
But Jim Holton still sells EasyShare.  You can reach him at 510-483-3556 or
via email at jholton@ix.netcom.com

I got EasyShare in 1990 (or 1991) for use in making PC FoxPro programs
communicate with
applications on mainframe computers.   It worked great and solved our
membership
verification problem.  Before it would take about 30 seconds
to swap out to the mainframe program and come back to FoxPro.  Using EasyShare
the time was cut to 2 seconds!  Not bad for searching through 3,000,000
customer
records.

I also used EasyShare to assist in sending credit card authorization
requests to Wells Fargo Bank,
convert Macinstosh data to PC DOS, and to access a "sister" company's
membership files.

The useful thing about EasyShare is that it lets small departments capture
mainframe data
without the need for a 9 month COBOL programming effort (which probably
would never
be approved.)

You can also just use EasyShare to integrate DOS applications.

At 12:22 PM 8/12/97 -0400, ddv wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:
>>  The DOS software agent program is EasyShare, which is really quite
>> powerful.  Easyshare lets you integrate applications
>> that weren't originally intended to work together.   You can "scap" data
>> off one screen and plug it into another
>
>snip
>>
>> wouldn't work and I got no error messages in the log file.  So as a
>> workaround, I just had Easyshare read the file and
>> "type" the info into the phone book for me automatically.
>
>Very  interesting!  Where do I get EasyShare?
>
>Domingo
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In case anyone is interested in programming in Prolog ÝPROgrammin LOGic¨, here
a note from the Prolog Development Center  (see below).  What I like about
working in Prolog is that it's more fun than than regular programming.
It's kind of like solving a logic puzzle.  Example:

            Sam likes women who dance and are cute.
            Tasha is cute.
            Tasha dances.
            Sam likes Tasha.

In prolog you would write something like this:

          likes("Sam","Tasha").

          ÝProlog would respond "TRUE."


You would also need to code a rule, like this:

          likes("Sam",Person) if
             is_a_woman(Person) and
             dances(Person) and
             is_cute(Person).

...and some facts like this:

           is_a_woman("Tasha").
           dances("Tasha").
           is_cute("Tasha").

Assuming you had facts about other women,
you could also find out all the women that
Sam likes, in a line or two of code.
Something like this:


    likes("Sam",Whom),
    fail, !.


Here's the info on PDC Prolog:
=========================================================


VIsual Prolog Technical Support
Service request Number: 32242

Dear Phil,

PDC Prolog for DOS is still available. It costs USD 115 + freight at
cost price. You may like to check out our website at
http://www.pdc.dk/vip or contact sales@pdc.dk to order.

PS: If you need to develop on you HP the DOS version is probably for
you, otherwise do take a look at our
latest Visual Prolog (The "First Step"  version costs USD 129 + postage)
GUI development system.

Regards

Jonathan Lerwill
support@pdc.dk

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"A lucid, well-organzied introduction to music theory" -- American Library
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Subject:      Re: Connectivity Pack - Question

Yes the Connectivity Pack supports windows (3.1)  and no it
doesn't.
Thats a realy short answer and shows the problems:

The pack can be installt in windows 3.1, which supports icons
for a) backup, b) linking direktoris (a:->e, c:->f: The first free
drives on the PC) and c) starting of the 200LX-PC-parts.

I'm, using a) and b), which supports a Windows interface using
the mouse for everything. Both parts work, only to backup the
palmtop f: drive I had to edit a *.ini file.

Part c: offers the palmtop-funktions as well as syncing files
on a DOS-screen, so you get a palmtop an the PC (no 123 and Quicken)
which has extra functionality for syncing files.
I don't use it, its a pain to waste a fully equipped PC with a CGA-
like screen.

All functions can also be done with DOS batch-files, which is
hard to find out, because its not documented.

The most I liked the ability of the program to have a free choice
of the com-Port and the interupts. (It helps finding the right
settings). I use it on COM3 so I can have the cable pluged in
besides a modem and a mouse.

So using windows 3.1 and sometimes also only DOS the pack is usefull,
but could be better.
Some time ago I read a message of someone using it with Win95, but
that was before transfile was out and it was realy tricky to install.

Hope it helped a little

Karsten

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>So why not hold you hp200lx up to your desktop monitor, to download stuff
>by flashing the screen? (like some data-holding watches do).

Nice idea, but you would have to write software for the palmtop
as well as for the desktop. I doubt it's possible to get something
realy usefull done with such kind of communication.

The other part is technical:
The IR-port is designed to suppress any information which differ from
the intended protokoll. This helps the port to eleminate background
noise like that of the desktop screen. This filter is build in in the
IR-receiver which in my oppinion will disable such an communication.

Karsten

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You can connect Many CD ROM to HP200LX via paralel PC Card like IOMEGA =
ZIP

regards
Jurek


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> Temat: cd player ???
> Data: 13 sierpnia 1997 01:01
>=20
> has anyone found a portable cd player with pcmcia interface which will =
work
> with the hp200lx?  when out of town, i take a music cd player, anyway =
so the
> machine would not add to my load, if there was a dual use machine =
which would
> work.  there is a ton of text-based stuff which would be nice to take =
along,
> if it worked.
>=20
> alternatively, is there anyone who has tried one of the ones that =
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> it should work, and found that it did not?
>=20
> thanks for your advice.
>=20
> lynn m. cavendish
>=20
> =
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At 14:14 13/08/97 +1000, you wrote:
>Ok, this is wacky, but ...
>
>Does a desktop monitor emit infrared radiation? I'd guess so.
>
>So why not hold you hp200lx up to your desktop monitor, to download stuff
>by flashing the screen? (like some data-holding watches do). The baud-rate
>would be pretty low (max of 50 or 60 bits per second) But this would be
>convenient to transfer reference stuff; eg the phone number you looked up
>on the on-line phone-book; the journal reference, the catalog number of a
>book in the library etc.
>
>So, am I crazy? Also, what do you think of this idea?

Worth trying, but no info about direct control of the IR port on the HP200LX.

Regards. Nacho.

P.S: Remember, 50-60 bits per second...

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        Pure speculation, but wouldn't this be hard on the eyes of the
person holding the HP 200LX? I don't mean it would be blinding, or anything
like that, just probably disorienting, and might bring on a headache.
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        Hi,

        The other day I was playing with my Hp200 and 'discovered' a file in
D:/BIN called keybez.kit. As I am curious I looked into it. It was Xined. Ok,
I de-Xined it. It is a long ASCII file... I started to read it... Oh! It
allows you to change the keyboard... well, not very useful for me... but wait!
you can change the font too!

        I took out the manual and looked for some info. It explained what
keybez does in a very summarized form. I could not tell from the manual if it
only works for System Manager or also for DOS, so I tried it. And it works for
DOS!!

        Well, the good news is that you can make your own .fon file, and make
your Hp200 use it. So you can redefine all the character set. That is what I
want. But, I must know the format of a Windows 2.0 font file. I have looked
inside the .fon file the Hp has built in, and discovered how the
character data is stored ( thanks hp48, you've been very helpful ), but I
don't know what are several hundred bytes around the data. Can anyone help me?
I've tried to find info about that 'Windows 2.0 font file' but with no luck.



                Bye,
                                Alberto

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It just so happens that I have a several thousand page PC sourcebook
which contains a page on Windows 2.0 font file info.  I will reproduce =
it
here as it is of interest to all in this newsgroup who are interested in =
cool
fonts.

6.014.  FONT FILE FORMAT
field           size    description             allowable values
dfVersion               word    Version of the file             Currently must be 100 (256)
dfSize          d word  Total file size in bytes        Unsigned 32-bit int
dfCopyright     60 bytes        Copyright information   ASCIIZ string
dfType          word    Font file type          LObit0=3D0 (raster-type file)
                                                LObit0=3D1 (vector-type file)
                                                LObit3=3D1 (bitmap in ram)
                                                HO=3D0 (GDI realized std font)
dfPoints                word    nominal pt size for best look
dfVertRes               word    nominal vert resolution dpi     Size at which font was digiti=
zed
dfHorizRes      word    nominal horiz resultion dpi     Size at which font was digiti=
zed
dfAscent                word    dist from top of char to baseline
dfInternalLeading       word    area inside dfPixHeight for accent marks
dfExternalLeading       Word    extra leading requested between rows
dfItalic                byte    Italic?                 0-no, 1-yes
dfUnderline     byte    Underlined?             0-no, 1-yes
dfStrikeout     byte    Overstruck?             0-no, 1-yes
dfWeight                word    character weight                Range 1-1000 (200=3Dnormal)
dfCharSet               byte    character set used              FF (255)=3DIBM PC char set
dfPixWidth      word    grid width for vector fonts     Size at which font was digiti=
zed
                        width of all chars for raster   0=3Dvariable width
dfPixHeight     word    grid height for vector fonts    size at which font was digi=
tized
                        height of bitmap for raster
dfPitch&Family  byte    pitch and family of font        LObit=3D1 (variable pitch)
                                                LObit=3D0 (fixed pitch)
                                                HO4bits=3D0000 (FF_DONTCARE)
                                                HO4bits=3D0001 (FF_ROMAN)
                                                HO4bits=3D0010 (FF_SWISS)
                                                HO4bits=3D0011 (FF_MODERN)
                                                HO4bits=3D0100 (FF_SCRIPT)
                                                HO4bits=3D0101 (FF_DECORATIVE)
dfAvgWidth      word    average width of chars in font  usually "X"
dfMaxWidth      word    max pixel width of any char in font
dfFirstChar     byte    character code of first char defined
dfLastChar      byte    character code of last char defined
dfDefaultChar   byte    character to substitute for missing chars
dfBreakChar     byte    character used to define word breaks
dfWidthBytes    word    # of bytes in each row of bitmap (raster fonts only)
dfDevice                d word  offset in file to device name str        -- 0=3Draster device
dfFace          d word  offset in file to face name string
dfBitsPointer   d word  absolute address of bitmap      (set by GDI at load time)
dfBitsOffset    d word  offset in file to beginning of bitmap
dfCharOffset    word ea.        offset in bmp rows to each char in set (var-spaced =
raster fonts)
                0 bytes not used                        fixed-spaced raster
                word ea.        offset in bmp to str for each char in set (fix-spaced vector)
                word    offset in bmp to char strokes for each char (var-spaced vector)
                word    pixel width of character
(filename)              string  Name of typeface                ASCIIZ string
(devicename)    string  device designed for             ASCIIZ string
(bitmap)                bytes   bitmap containing font data     Each row must start on word =
boundary

Version:        Applies to all versions of Windows beginning with 2.0.

Source: Microsoft Windows 2.0 SDK Programmer's Refrence, pages 639 throug=
h 645
        Microsoft Windows Device Driver Kit, Device Driver Adaptaion Guide pages=
 13-1-13-15

This is quoted directly from "The PC Programmer's Sourcebook, 2nd Edition=
", by
Thom Hogan, pages 6-18 through 6-19.  You need this book.  ISBN 1-55615-3=
21-X.

Have a ball with this one....

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.

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>         Well, the good news is that you can make your own .fon file, =
and make
> your Hp200 use it. So you can redefine all the character set. That is =
what I
> want. But, I must know the format of a Windows 2.0 font file. I have =
looked
> inside the .fon file the Hp has built in, and discovered how the
> character data is stored ( thanks hp48, you've been very helpful ), but=
 I
> don't know what are several hundred bytes around the data. Can anyone =
help me?
> I've tried to find info about that 'Windows 2.0 font file' but with no =
luck.

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Philip Seyer wrote:

> Let's write to Byte magazine and let readers know the benefits of the
> 200LX!   I'm
> sure they'd publish some of our letters at least!
>
> At 08:33 AM 8/11/97 +0300, David Becher wrote:
> >The August 1997 issue of "Byte" magazine had two articles about
> palmtops.
> >One was a discussion about WinCE which was all "Gee Wizz what a
> wonderful
> >thing" and the other was a comparison of all the leading palmtops.
> HP320
> >Psion etc etc. The only palmtop which was not mentioned was the
> HP200! Who
> >says that HP is not trying to kill us off?
> >
> >
> >David Becher
> >(davidb@netmedia.net.il)
>

That sounds extremely positive to me!   Spamming Byte!

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What happens to the keyboards can be shock.  The several layers
of plastic plus elastomer can get a little separated, and the
elastomer doesn't make real good contact any more.  Pushing harder
just makes it worse, since the little fingers that hold the
sandwich together by friction can slip even more out of their places...

Unfortunately, you've got to take the unit apart just a little, so that
you can press things back together.  And if you are only slightly
less adept than I, it becomes a chore, but that's a different part of
the FAQ....

/mark

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>What we need is a tutorial detailing exactly what format to use when
>using built in code on the palmtop.  The SDK is helpful, but it contains
>no examples, so people who are trying to learn to program EXMs could
>become confused.  A guide to the many different functions in ROM,
>including the BIOS calls, explaining how they are used and giving
>examples, would be a great asset to the palmtop community.  I've done
>some programming using the built-in functions, but I think it would=
 be
>much easier and more common with examples and details on the functions.

That I fully understand! As I know the only help would be to look at=
 the
enclosed source codes (several comes in the NKIT). In many Japanese=
 programs
the authors have been so kind to attach their source code, so this could=
 be
an additional source of information. Programs like POSTIT, DIAL, TASKLIST, =

ZOOM etc include source code. I don't mean that we should "steal" their
programms, but I am sure the source code can be very helpful. You can=
 also
find more Japanese programs at The HP Palmtop Paper web site and the=
 Japanese
vector site (I don't have the address now, but if anyone has please=
 give us
the address). Toshiki's DIAL program can be found at SUPER.

Then if there are several programmers interested in EXM programming,=
 you
could start up using this list as a forum and at a later stage we could=
 maybe
start a EXM programming list!?

Unfortunately, I am not a programmer (but I would love to be!). But=
 since I
know some basic C programming, I looked at some source code and could=
 put
together a simple program with menus, calculation and reading of the=
 serial
port. Of cource it takes some time to get into this with EXM programmin,=
 but
I am so excited that maybe I will try to do a simple EXM program myself.

If anyone would like to take up a challenge, then I must say that my=
 dream
program for the HP 200LX is a "Visual EXM" program. Something like Visual
Basic, but for the palmtop, on the palmtop- with resulting EXM programs.=
 But
I am afraid that this program will continue to be a dream- or??

Regards,

Jorgen


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>The author has expressed a willingness to offer us a version that is
>compatible with the HP100/200LX CGA screen - any interest?

Oh yes, I am very interested!

Jorgen



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>Can anyone tell me where to get SMMX? I am currently using moreexm=
 and
>would like to launch the exm`s using the icons.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Xerxez.

If I am not wrong, you can find it on The HP Palmtop Paper web site
(www.thaddeus.com I belive!).

Regards,

Jorgen



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Ditto !!

Ralph

> Yes I would like to give it a try!
>
> Rodger
>

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I would be interested in testing your program, I administer Exchange and
cc:Mail post offices.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivek Venugopalan ÝSMTP:vivek.venugopalan@USA.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 10:59 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Offline reading of desktop email (long)
>
>
> Ok.  Its time I reveal my little secret.  Iam working on a Windows
> based
> app that would talk to the pop and smtp server and generate UQWK
> packets
> that can be then transferred to the palmtop and read using PNR.  Iam
> actually planning to write a good UQWK client on the palmtop but right
> now
> it has to be PNR.  I know that this is not necessarily what the
> initial
> poster was looking out for but if the mail on the POP server is left
> without deletion, it can be shared between both the desktop and
> palmtop
> quite easily without any messy importing.
>
> Comments ?   Please let me know
>
> Vivek
>
>

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Subject:      New DOS handheld...

E. Com international (privately held company in Beaverton, OR) coming
out this fall with a handheld called "Discovery". Specs are:  AMD 33MHz
'386 processor, OS will be DOS 6.22 or Win 3.1 (also a WinCE 2.0 version
later), 4MB RAM, 4MB ROM, minicard slot for flash, backlit LCD with 480
x 320 pixel display that can be rotated 360 degrees to be used as a pen
tablet, QWERTY keyboard + HWR, rechargeable Ni-metal hydride battery,
built in Motorola DataTAC wireless modem, $1,200, to ship this fall.
However at 28oz it looks closer in size to a PC110 / Libretto-sized
machine, so I'm not sure where it fits... too big for me, underpowered
compared to the PC110 / Libretto (though they claim 30 hr for battery,
unlike those two).... But, does it send the msg that DOS-based handhelds
aren't dead (tho most publications don't want to mention the HP
x00lxs...), which is good... So why couldn't HP have done the same??
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Comments: To: stjohn@ocsnet.net

Tom,

I reposted this message from Michael to the M100 list in case anyone was
interested in the WP2 without realizing that the orignal message had no return
email address.  Sorry, Michael, of course, does not subscribe to this
reflector.  If you want to email him about his WP2, send it to
fletch@swlink.net

Ed Manuel, N5EM


-----Original Message-----
From:   Tom Upton
Sent:   Tuesday, August 12, 1997 6:53 PM
To:     m100 Listserver
Subject:        Re: FW: QRP Packet Terminal/Wordprocessor for sale

At 02:23 PM 8/12/97 UT, you wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU  On Behalf Of Michael Fletcher
>Sent:  Tuesday, August 12, 1997 3:50 AM
>To:    Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion
>Subject:       QRP Packet Terminal/Wordprocessor for sale
>
> I have a Tandy WP-2 notebook wordprocessor that also has a terminal
>program and RS-232 output built into it. Some hams used the older Model 100
>for mobile and portable packet so this should work as well, especially with
>its larger 8-line, 80 character-wide screen and larger keyboard. It has a
>128K Ramdisk that I have added and is in excellent condition. Runs for
>quite a few hours on 4-AAA cells or AC/DC adapters.
>
>Anyone for QRP packet?
>
>I'd be receptive to trading for an interesting QRP rig of similar value (to
>the seller, of course!).
>
>73,
>Mike NP2J
>Chandler, AZ
>
>
Hi Mike,

I like using the Mod100 for packet.  It works fine, but of course there is
the problem of scrolling.  Solved that fine using the built in term programs.

But what is QRP about that?  I already use 100 milliwatts on 2 meters.  Are
you thinking of HF?

Or are you just wanting to sell the rig setup you have?

The Mod100 is QRP, but, am I misunderstanding?

Tom   AD6N

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QRP is using a HP200LX, KPC3 (or Baycom)and a Standard 508. Complete
station in a brief case with room to spare. hours of operation all on
battery.

Stephen Souza
WB1BUH
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Manuel ÝSMTP:n5em-qrp@MSN.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 1997 10:37 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: FW: QRP Packet Terminal/Wordprocessor for sale
>
>
> I like using the Mod100 for packet.  It works fine, but of course
> there is
> the problem of scrolling.  Solved that fine using the built in term
> programs.
>
> But what is QRP about that?  I already use 100 milliwatts on 2 meters.
> Are
> you thinking of HF?
>
> Or are you just wanting to sell the rig setup you have?
>
> The Mod100 is QRP, but, am I misunderstanding?
>
> Tom   AD6N
>
>

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Hi all:

    I have an IBM PCMCIA SCSI card that I would L-O-V-E to be able to
use in my 200LX. I suspect it draws too much current since I get a CARD
BATTERY LOW warning whenever I insert it. It's part # 92G8169. Anyone
using one of these &/or would one work if powered externally (doubleslot
for example) ??

Tom

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<<The Newton keyboard looks to me to be full sized!  You
could certainly touch type on it.>>

I'll repeat the message I posted on HPHAND this morning below:
----- start HPHAND message----------
I had David Shier make a 200LX connector to the Newton keyboard for me
yesterday. It seems to work o.k. and allows for real touch typing on the
200LX instead of the thumb typing I've been used to for years. So it's
somewhat of an improvement. But there are some downsides. I'll play with
this thing some more and report the findings. Disclaimer, I still haven't=

read the documentation from the SUPER site, but the driver does look like=

another excellent Japanese contribution to the 200LX platform. The driver=

takes up less than 5K on my C: drive.

Positives:
 - real touch typing
 - plugs right into 200LX serial port, doesn't need extra batteries
 - light

Negatives:
 - it's designed for Newton, not 200LX, so keys aren't labeled right and
special keys aren't there. Takes some getting used to.
 - no escape key, uses the Ý~`¨ key as escape key.
 - no hot keys (you can still use the 200LX keypad for program switching)=

 - no function keys (but pressing the apple key and a number key gives th=
e
equivalent of function key)
 - No backspace key. (The delete key works like backspace key.)
 - expensive (relative to 200LX cost and other IBM style keyboards.)
 - needs to be used at a table (not good in my easy chair, which is one o=
f
the things I like about using the 200LX).

Bottom line, if I had my druthers, I'd rather have a real standard IBM
style keyboard. But that doesn't exist now, and this makes an adequate
working subsitute in the time being until it proves out whether there is =
a
market for these things or not. I did notice my typing speed on the 200LX=

improved considerably using it.

David said he would carry these, but doesn't expect many orders. He can b=
e
reached at david@shier.com. I don't think he's thought of pricing since h=
e
doesn't have any of the keyboards in stock. (I brought a keyboard I found=

in a store). The setup is not complicated, for David that is <g>. Looks
like a perfect job for a cable expert.

     Carl Merkle
     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
     www.shier.com

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Hmmmmm, this is getting interesting!
A Baycom on the HP200.... are there any Web pages that show a How-To?
What kind of antennas are you using for QRP?
What freq. do you use?  Is there one specifically for QRP Packet?

This is something I could get into!!

Mark
N2JTW

At 10:51 AM 8/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>QRP is using a HP200LX, KPC3 (or Baycom)and a Standard 508. Complete
>station in a brief case with room to spare. hours of operation all on
>battery.
>
>Stephen Souza
>WB1BUH
>mailto:ssouza@iname.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Manuel ÝSMTP:n5em-qrp@MSN.COM¨
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 1997 10:37 AM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Re: FW: QRP Packet Terminal/Wordprocessor for sale
>>
>>
>> I like using the Mod100 for packet.  It works fine, but of course
>> there is
>> the problem of scrolling.  Solved that fine using the built in term
>> programs.
>>
>> But what is QRP about that?  I already use 100 milliwatts on 2 meters.
>> Are
>> you thinking of HF?
>>
>> Or are you just wanting to sell the rig setup you have?
>>
>> The Mod100 is QRP, but, am I misunderstanding?
>>
>> Tom   AD6N
>>
>>
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Could a keyboard such as Keytronics's "Lifetime Series" optical keyboard
work with this driver you mentioned?  I realize I'm dreaming here, but
it would sure be nice.

>----------
>From:  Carl MerkleÝSMTP:73564.2461@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, August 13, 1997 9:54 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Newton Keyboard for HP 200 LX
>
><snip>
>Bottom line, if I had my druthers, I'd rather have a real standard IBM
>style keyboard. But that doesn't exist now, and this makes an adequate
>working subsitute in the time being until it proves out whether there is a
>market for these things or not. I did notice my typing speed on the 200LX
>improved considerably using it.
><snip>
>     Carl Merkle
>     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
>     www.shier.com
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Does someone know how to make a interface to use a SONY mini disc
player/recorder with the hp 200lx or any desktop PC.
The sony mini disc would be a great storage device it has 640 MB on each
CD and is recordable!
It has a analogic and a numeric output.
Work with a battery for 2 hours (i think).

                Any idea or comment welcome.

                FX

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>E. Com international (privately held company in Beaverton, OR) coming
>out this fall with a handheld called "Discovery". Specs are:  AMD 33MHz
>'386 processor, OS will be DOS 6.22 or Win 3.1 (also a WinCE 2.0 version
>later), 4MB RAM, 4MB ROM, minicard slot for flash, backlit LCD with=
 480
>x 320 pixel display that can be rotated 360 degrees to be used as a=
 pen
>tablet, QWERTY keyboard + HWR, rechargeable Ni-metal hydride battery,
>built in Motorola DataTAC wireless modem, $1,200, to ship this fall.
>However at 28oz it looks closer in size to a PC110 / Libretto-sized
>machine, so I'm not sure where it fits... too big for me, underpowered
>compared to the PC110 / Libretto (though they claim 30 hr for battery,
>unlike those two).... But, does it send the msg that DOS-based handhelds
>aren't dead (tho most publications don't want to mention the HP
>x00lxs...), which is good... So why couldn't HP have done the same??
>Suresh Nirody

Hi,

Sounds interesting, but with a 480 x 320 screen it will be a failure!

Jorgen
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I saw an article in "PC PLUS" a french language paper, about palmtops
The hp 200 lx was mentionned.So HP200lx isn't dead, at least in France.

+The version 1.0 of win CE doesn'T support printing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Microsoft can really sell anything (I hope it isn't the future of
computing!)

        F.X.


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Subject:      Re: Connectivity Pack - Question

Text of message from cmb@ACCA.NMSU.EDU, 12 Aug 1997, 08:35 PM
> Does the software that comes included with the Connectivity Pack have a
> windows interface?  Can it be used with a mouse?

I use it under Win95 and it works fine.  In fact, I can't make TransFile
work under my current Win95 setup :-(( but the CPack works like a charm.
Since I back up my files to my PC (not using CPack) it will allow me to
use the LX's built-in apps to look at my backup copies of phonebook, appt
book, notepad, etc.

I do not use the sync features for my appt book, since I don't use the
CPack version of the appt book for entering new appts (I use Ontime for
Windows which allows group scheduling).

As another member wrote, you can buy the Pocket Quicken Connect from
Quicken to help merge the palmtop files with the desktop Quicken files.
The program that comes with CPack does not work with newer Q for Win
version (>= 5.0, I believe).

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Watch out for Quicken's Connect program, it works fine for importing
_from_ the HP to a desktop, but when you transfer back to the HP, you
lose "detail".  Connect groups all the information from desktop Quicken
into one "transaction" on the palmtop.  I did not purchase Connect
because of this limit.

>----------
>From:  Daniel Z. SandsÝSMTP:dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, August 13, 1997 11:27 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Connectivity Pack - Question
>
><snip>
>As another member wrote, you can buy the Pocket Quicken Connect from
>Quicken to help merge the palmtop files with the desktop Quicken files.
>The program that comes with CPack does not work with newer Q for Win
>version (>= 5.0, I believe).
>
>- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:04:02 EDT."
              <3.0.32.19970813110401.00552100@mdtrain2>

> Hmmmmm, this is getting interesting!
> A Baycom on the HP200.... are there any Web pages that show a How-To?
> What kind of antennas are you using for QRP?
> What freq. do you use?  Is there one specifically for QRP Packet?

I stumbled across a page by Jason Baack, N1WRY, a few months ago.  In
it he describes his experience with a BP-1, complete with diagrams and
photos:

    http://www.umecut.maine.edu/~baack/bay.htm

                                -Jim.

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<<Could a keyboard such as Keytronics's "Lifetime Series" optical keyboar=
d
work with this driver you mentioned?  I realize I'm dreaming here, but
it would sure be nice.>>

Mack of Times2Tech was going to try to create a driver and parts to conne=
ct
the 200LX's serial port to an infrared device that'd work with an infrare=
d
keyboard. I don't believe this is done yet, and I'm not sure of the statu=
s.
But it was discussed about 6 months ago. That part required an additional=

power source whereas the Newton keyboard does not require additional powe=
r
since it was made especially for a low power device and has special
electronics to accomplish that.

     Carl Merkle
     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
     www.shier.com

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 I also would like to give it a try!

Regards,
Qman

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I wouldn't know why someone would buy a new product like this when the
Toshiba Libretto is a real computer. The prices aren't different enough to
ring my chimes. I'll bet that the Libretto will drop price at the same
time. This one sounds like one destined for the surplus stores in a very
short time.

JR


At 11:56 AM 8/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>E. Com international (privately held company in Beaverton, OR) coming
>>out this fall with a handheld called "Discovery". Specs are:  AMD 33MHz
>>'386 processor, OS will be DOS 6.22 or Win 3.1 (also a WinCE 2.0 version
>>later), 4MB RAM, 4MB ROM, minicard slot for flash, backlit LCD with 480
>>x 320 pixel display that can be rotated 360 degrees to be used as a pen
>>tablet, QWERTY keyboard + HWR, rechargeable Ni-metal hydride battery,
>>built in Motorola DataTAC wireless modem, $1,200, to ship this fall.
>>However at 28oz it looks closer in size to a PC110 / Libretto-sized
>>machine, so I'm not sure where it fits... too big for me, underpowered
>>compared to the PC110 / Libretto (though they claim 30 hr for battery,
>>unlike those two).... But, does it send the msg that DOS-based handhelds
>>aren't dead (tho most publications don't want to mention the HP
>>x00lxs...), which is good... So why couldn't HP have done the same??
>>Suresh Nirody
>
>Hi,
>
>Sounds interesting, but with a 480 x 320 screen it will be a failure!
>
>Jorgen
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I too would like to give it a try!

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I'm not being combative here, but why would additional hardware be
required?  As I understand it, the IR port on the HP can be "mapped" to
the UART as a "serial port".  If a program (something way beyond me, I'm
afraid) was capable of using the serial port, it should (with the proper
limits) be able to use the IR port as a mater of fact.

I stand ready to receive "teaching".  :)

Phil

>----------
>From:  Carl MerkleÝSMTP:73564.2461@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, August 13, 1997 12:54 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Newton Keyboard for HP 200 LX
>
<snipped original text, the "drift" is still intact in the text that
>follows>
>Mack of Times2Tech was going to try to create a driver and parts to connect
>the 200LX's serial port to an infrared device that'd work with an infrared
>keyboard. I don't believe this is done yet, and I'm not sure of the status.
>But it was discussed about 6 months ago. That part required an additional
power source whereas the Newton keyboard does not require additional
>power since it was made especially for a low power device and has special
>electronics to accomplish that.
>
>     Carl Merkle
>     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
>     www.shier.com
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Does anyone know of a good program for the HP200LX that will keep track of
client information such as how long you've been on the job, amount charged
per hour, what's being done on client machine etc. .........

I would like to be able to depend on my palmtop when I'm on site to keep
track of these things when I'm out with a client......

Mayfield Harris -- Senior LAN Specialist
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Has anybody tried Adaptec's Slim Scsi card? Haven't checked out the web
yet, but may meet current standards.

JR

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Hi all,

Just in case anyone is interested, I found a golf game that will run on the
HP, but isn't quite graphical (it's text graphics).  The URL is:

 http://www2.netdoor.com/~whp1/games.html

You should have no troubles finding it once you're there.  As a side note,
there are a LOT of CGA games there, and all of them are pretty small.  If you
want a game to waste a lot of time with, that's a good starting place.

Thanks Again,
J.B. Raasch

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I once heard that it is possible to hook up a PC or Mac keyboard to the 200LX. I was told that there was inforation how do do this (both hardware and software) on the SUPER web site. Does anyone know about this or have you done this?

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John Ramos asked:

> Has anybody tried Adaptec's Slim Scsi card? Haven't checked out the web
> yet, but may meet current standards.

I exchanged email several weeks ago with someone who tried it
(APA-1460-A), unsuccessfully.  It draws sufficiently little current,
but faces the same software problem as almost every other SCSI card: it
requires more recent software on the host side than the 200LX provides,
and replacement software is not available.

These are the PCcard SCSI adapters I know of, and the reasons reported
for their unsuitability:

    Adaptec APA-1460 (aka Slim SCSI)    no software support
    Eiger Labs EPX-SS1000               no software support
    New Media Bus Toaster               draws too much current
    New Media Basics SCSI               no software support
    QLogic (used with Panasonic CDROM)  no software support (Mr. KIM?)

                                -Jim.

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I have been thinking about writing a time and billing program for some =
time now.  It would be the kind of program that anyone that does per =
hour billing, and needs to keep track of where you were, when you were =
there, what you were doing, and how long you were doing it could use.  =
Most of the PC based time and billing programs that I have tried don't =
allow you to enter 'the number of hours worked.'  They usually want =
start and stop times which for the most part I don't keep track of.  =
Ideally (for me anyway) there would be 2 parts to the system:  a fairly =
simple data entry program for the HP, and a more feature rich version =
for the PC that you could import the data from the palmtop for =
reporting/billing etc.

Any feature suggestions would be helpful, and would probably get me =
coding it instead of thinking about it...

Of course, if there is already a good program out there already, I would =
love to hear about it.

Sean D. Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

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Subject:        Billing, Time Management

Does anyone know of a good program for the HP200LX that will keep track =
of
client information such as how long you've been on the job, amount =
charged
per hour, what's being done on client machine etc. .........

I would like to be able to depend on my palmtop when I'm on site to keep
track of these things when I'm out with a client......

Mayfield Harris -- Senior LAN Specialist
Office of Systems and LAN Administration
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Jim, excuse the heavy snipping...
On the subject of PCMCIA software support, does a driver (config.sys)
exist to "install" a TransDigital PCMCIA parallel port _before_ the Zip
Disk driver?  The problem as I see it is, in order to use a Zip Drive
from within the Application Manager, the zip drive must be enabled in
the config.sys phase due to (my experience) the incompatibilities
between Zip's Guest.exe and the Application Manager software.

Phil
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I would like to see just what you mentioned below for the program.  I use a
billing program for windows called "Client Biller" which works well but
since I use my palmtop for everything now, it would be nice to keep track
of my work on the palmtop instead........

At 04:16 PM 8/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have been thinking about writing a time and billing program for some
time now.  It would be the kind of program that anyone that does per hour
billing, and needs to keep track of where you were, when you were there,
what you were doing, and how long you were doing it could use.  Most of the
PC based time and billing programs that I have tried don't allow you to
enter 'the number of hours worked.'  They usually want start and stop times
which for the most part I don't keep track of.  Ideally (for me anyway)
there would be 2 parts to the system:  a fairly simple data entry program
for the HP, and a more feature rich version for the PC that you could
import the data from the palmtop for reporting/billing etc.
>
>Any feature suggestions would be helpful, and would probably get me coding
it instead of thinking about it...
>
>Of course, if there is already a good program out there already, I would
love to hear about it.
>
>Sean D. Hoger
>shoger@buyrite.com
>
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>From:   Mayfield HarrisÝSMTP:mharris@RICE.EDU¨
>Sent:   Wednesday, August 13, 1997 3:17 PM
>To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:        Billing, Time Management
>
>Does anyone know of a good program for the HP200LX that will keep track of
>client information such as how long you've been on the job, amount charged
>per hour, what's being done on client machine etc. .........
>
>I would like to be able to depend on my palmtop when I'm on site to keep
>track of these things when I'm out with a client......
>
>Mayfield Harris -- Senior LAN Specialist
>Office of Systems and LAN Administration
>Rice University -- 6100 South Main
>Houston, TX.  77005
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>HTML: http://is.rice.edu:80/~mharris/
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Unless you are a programmer and want to do something on the for Windows, it
would be better to concentrate on the program for the LX and make an
interface to export (import) data to the PC. There are plenty of programs
on the PC already to import to. Please make an expense portion of it too,
all the tax type stuff. The PalmPilot has a great one built in, just don't
like not having a keyboard to enter data with.

My 2 cents worth.

JR

At 04:16 PM 8/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have been thinking about writing a time and billing program for some
time now.  It would be the kind of program that anyone that does per hour
billing, and needs to keep track of where you were, when you were there,
what you were doing, and how long you were doing it could use.  Most of the
PC based time and billing programs that I have tried don't allow you to
enter 'the number of hours worked.'  They usually want start and stop times
which for the most part I don't keep track of.  Ideally (for me anyway)
there would be 2 parts to the system:  a fairly simple data entry program
for the HP, and a more feature rich version for the PC that you could
import the data from the palmtop for reporting/billing etc.
>
>Any feature suggestions would be helpful, and would probably get me coding
it instead of thinking about it...
>
>Of course, if there is already a good program out there already, I would
love to hear about it.
>
>Sean D. Hoger
>shoger@buyrite.com
>
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>From:   Mayfield HarrisÝSMTP:mharris@RICE.EDU¨
>Sent:   Wednesday, August 13, 1997 3:17 PM
>To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:        Billing, Time Management
>
>Does anyone know of a good program for the HP200LX that will keep track of
>client information such as how long you've been on the job, amount charged
>per hour, what's being done on client machine etc. .........
>
>I would like to be able to depend on my palmtop when I'm on site to keep
>track of these things when I'm out with a client......
>
>Mayfield Harris -- Senior LAN Specialist
>Office of Systems and LAN Administration
>Rice University -- 6100 South Main
>Houston, TX.  77005
>Voice: (713)-527-4642 -- Fax: (713)-527-6099
>HTML: http://is.rice.edu:80/~mharris/
>
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Suggestions using built-in 200LX software ...

Keep billing information in a Lotus 123 spreadsheet(s)?  You can create records with
time/date stamps by using simple macros.  And, you can automatically create bills or time
sheets directly from Lotus.

As for job information, why not create a simple journal/log database using the Notes
database.  I do this now.  I create a new file each calendar quarter and keep separate notes
for each client.  Each entry starts with a date/time stamp, created using a simple macro.

What nice about this approach is you don't use up RAM with extra software.

--- On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:17:03 -0500  Mayfield Harris <mharris@RICE.EDU> wrote:

>Does anyone know of a good program for the HP200LX that will keep track of
>client information such as how long you've been on the job, amount charged
>per hour, what's being done on client machine etc. .........
>
>I would like to be able to depend on my palmtop when I'm on site to keep
>track of these things when I'm out with a client......
>

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           8/13/97 4:31:37 PM EDT
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Thanks for all your help.  Nice list . . .

Carol

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Sean,

I went through a search for software like this a few weeks ago (I could
write my own in C but just don't have time at present) and ended up
using a program called Timestax.  It's a DOS based app that can run on
an HP but needs about 300Kb to run, I suspect because it uses a dBase
file system.  I run it on my notebook PC rather than the HP as I wanted
to.  It is a bit 'clunky' to use initially, but I have it down pretty
good now.

The best feature I think is the auto-timer, which lets you start & stop
recording of time against tasks (like a stopwatch).  It's worth having a
look at before you write your app.  I print a report each week and enter
it into our office time system.

Improvements I would make to Timestax are...
0. Make it smaller so it is easier to run on an HP (removing the report
writer should achieve this and by the sounds of it you'll have that in
the PC component of your system).
1. Ability to copy an existing line (client/project/task) to a new day
rather than re-enter same details again.
2. Store last report parameters for next time, or better still allow
user to save different report definitions.
3. Only let auto-timer work on today's tasks!  This has caught me out a
couple of times logging time against previous days.
4. Display 'Today's Total Recorded Hours' on the main screen.  I quite
often do a simple report to determine how many hours I've logged in the
day so far.  Maybe also a timer since 8:30am (configurable) so user can
see how many hours they should have logged!  Depends on whether you want
to ensure that all time is logged somewhere.

If you want someone to comment on and/or beta test your software, let me
know.

Regards

Stephen

Stephen Robb
Orion Systems New Zealand Ltd,  Phone:  +64-9-357 6323 x3304,
St John Bldg, 1 Beresford St,           Fax:    +64-9-357 6324
PO Box 8273,                    Mobile: +64-25-980 552
Auckland                                e-mail: stephen@orion.co.nz
New  Zealand                    WWW: http://www.orion.co.nz/stephen

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On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Sean Hoger wrote:

> I have been thinking about writing a time and billing program for some
> time now.  It would be the kind of program that anyone that does per
> hour billing, and needs to keep track of where you were, when you were
> there, what you were doing, and how long you were doing it could use.
> Most of the PC based time and billing programs that I have tried don't
> allow you to enter 'the number of hours worked.' They usually want start
> and stop times which for the most part I don't keep track of.  Ideally
> (for me anyway) there would be 2 parts to the system:  a fairly simple
> data entry program for the HP, and a more feature rich version for the
> PC that you could import the data from the palmtop for reporting/billing
> etc.
>
> Any feature suggestions would be helpful, and would probably get me
> coding it instead of thinking about it...
>
> Of course, if there is already a good program out there already, I would
> love to hear about it.

How about D&A Soft's TimeTracker/LX? This is the blurb from
http://www.dasoft.com/TT/tt.html

TimeTracker/LX - Time Tracking Software (TT/LX)


There are many reasons why you may want to keep track of how you spend
your time. Maybe you have to report it to your company,
maybe you bill your clients by the time you spend on their behalf, maybe
you just want to know where your time "disappears", or
maybe you have yet another reason.

TT/LX is a tool - optimized for the HP Palmtop computers and adapted to
their special features - that lets you keep track of your
time with a minimum of overhead.

- Longden

PS I am not a TT/LX user (satisfied or otherwise).

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I'm interested.

Antonio


Antonio Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
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Phil,

<<I'm not being combative here, but why would additional hardware be
required?  As I understand it, the IR port on the HP can be "mapped" to
the UART as a "serial port".  If a program (something way beyond me, I'm
afraid) was capable of using the serial port, it should (with the proper
limits) be able to use the IR port as a mater of fact.

I stand ready to receive "teaching".  :)>>

Understand first, I am a non-technician, so I'm in a position of repeatin=
g
what I hear, rather than being expert on the subject. With that disclaime=
r
out of the way, I seem to remember Mack indicating that given the positio=
n
of the existing port, it didn't work well with a keyboard that needed to
communicate with it angled from a different direction. His solution was
serial to infrared that could point to the front or whereever it needed t=
o
angle. The part was apparently readily available, but Mack had to write t=
he
driver and that was what was taking the time.  I'll leave it to the exper=
ts
to argue the technical details.

     Carl

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Greetings:

        The July log file (minus the binaries) is now available in
compressed form on the archive page.

Sorry for the delay!

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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> Date          Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:17:03 -0500
> Reply-to      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> From          Mayfield Harris <mharris@RICE.EDU>
> Subject       Billing, Time Management
> To            HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu

You might want to wait for D&A TT/LX. I was told that it will soon be
released.

Regards

Antonio
Antonio Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
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Hi group.

This was one of the few tidbits from comp.sys.palmtops that seemed to=
 good
to pass up so I decided to share it with you. Please forgive my over
enthusiasm at hearing affirmations on the 200LX.... :-)

----- forwarded message -----

From: Phillip Nichols <brashith@gatecom.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
Subject: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 08:56:20
X-Mailer: NEWS/LX  Version 1.00, 1997.05.26

I just upgraded my 1MB 200lx to a 2MB.
I prefer this upgrade to a CE palmtop.
Especially since I bought WWW/LX post plus.

I can read mail and newsgroups on or offline...
browse the web online with inline gifs and tables.
Or set an appointment to download an HTML NewYorkTimes
in the morning as well as a GIF weathermap etc
everymorning before I get up, automatically.

I was impressed by the web browsing online.
The internet capabilites of the CE versions
were what got my attention until I tried
WWW/lx.   Instead, i can take the money i was
going to use for a ce and buy an 170MB HD for it.

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On 13 Aug 1997 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt:

> E. Com international (privately held company in Beaverton, OR) coming
> out this fall with a handheld called "Discovery". Specs are:  AMD=
 33MHz
> '386 processor, OS will be DOS 6.22 or Win 3.1 (also a WinCE 2.0 version=

> later), 4MB RAM, 4MB ROM, minicard slot for flash, backlit LCD with=
 480
> x 320 pixel display...

Sounds really interesting I think but the 480-wide screen is the only
real bummer I think.

> But, does it send the msg that DOS-based handhelds aren't dead (tho=
 most
> publications don't want to mention the HP x00lxs...), which is good...=
 So
> why couldn't HP have done the same??

Sure sounds to me like those Dos-based boxes are pretty much alive still
<g>. And why shouldn't they be - no one frowns when buying  a brand-new
Latitude, Extensa, Tecra, ThinkPad or any of the other great portables
right? And DOS ships with them all!

I've heard it said (and endorse the view) that HP is a large company=
 that
makes a great many computer products and it would be 'unnecessarily=
 risky'
to oppose Uncle Bill with a product lineup whose market share commands=
 so
little of their (HP's) bottom line! Anything else may mean having to=
 pay
the piper sooner rather than later...

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I just got a Shark 250 Meg PC Parallel Port mobile hard drive made by
Avatar for my laptop.

According to the specs it needs a 486 or better processor with 8 Meg of
Ram to operate.

Is there any hope of hooking this up to my 200LX since it

1. Doesn't have a 486,
2. Doesn't have 8 Meg of RAM, and
3. Doesn't have a parallel port?

Anyone done it?

I know on the surface it looks impossible, but people in this group do
some truely amazing things with their HPLX's.

Thanks,

Marty Porter

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I've got an old dos program I picked up at a discount computer store for
$1.99 called TimeTracker that I use for my consulting business.  It keeps
track of all my clients, time spent, and invoices them.  It was written in
1989 by Superior Micro Techniques, whom I've never heard of aside from this
software.  A quick web search reveals nothing.. but... I am pretty sure
it's not public domain (sorry!) otherwise I'd send a copy to SUPER.

Thanks,
Bill Childers


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> AMD 33MHz '386 processor, OS will be DOS 6.22 or Win 3.1
Ýsnip¨
> built in Motorola DataTAC wireless modem, $1,200, to ship this fall.
> However at 28oz it looks closer in size to a PC110 / Libretto-sized
Ýsnip¨
> But, does it send the msg that DOS-based handhelds aren't dead (tho most
> publications don't want to mention the HP x00lxs...), which is good...
> So why couldn't HP have done the same??

At last! An upgrade path! You know, you could run linux on this thing...

But expensive and heavy (28oz = .79 Kg, according to HP CALC:);
though including a wireless modem... and it could have a newton-size
keyboard already built in... :)

How hard would it be for HP to bring out a DOS versionÝ*¨ of the 300lx
hardware or a linux version? Perhaps HP has had this in mind all the time;
as a fall-back position after WinCE fails (or is firmly established).

Ý*¨ I never heard of DOS for a RISC processor ... maybe there's a good reason
for that?

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Howdy all,

For simple operations (+,-,*,/) in a database it would be
possible to use
a smart clip coupled with cbcalc.exm, it can be found at
http://www.oohito.com/200lx/200lx_j.htm
all documents in Japanese but just install into moreexm something like
this:
c:\bin\cbcalc.exm,8300,1,Clipboard Calculator
put an equation onto the clipboard ie. 1+2+3, hit the hotkey, ALT=, and
paste the result (should be 6 :-). No use for multiple records and only
does integer maths (1/3=0) but it may be of use to someone.
Ciao,
Peter

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Neil Tungate wrote:

>Here in the UK, Maplin sell a multi-voltage solar battery charger
>panel (part no. CJ38R). It gives out a switchable 3/6/9 volts
>(presumably regulated, but I'll need to check). It's rated at 50 mA on
>the 6 and 9 volt ranges, which may not be sufficient to run the HP but
>should certainly trickle charge the NiCads OK. At a mere 11.21 UKP I'm
>very tempted to get one. Even if it doesn't work, it has a holder for
>2 AA cells built in, so is still a useful gadget :-)

Note that the palmtop has to be on to charge the batteries, and that it
has two charge rates 100mA and 45mA, the 45mA cutting in after 6 hours.
I'm sure one of the many battery utilities would allow you to trickle
charge from the start. In my book, 3 volts @ 45ma = 9 Volts @ 15 ma if the
Dc to Dc conversion is 100% efficient but I'll bet you find it wants
100mA+ at 9.6 Volts
Good luck,
Peter.

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Hi friend palmtoppers,

I have a friend who just won a Cassioppeia in a trade show but she
doesn't know anything about it.  I would buy it, but I am more than
happy with my HP-200LX with the 2X speed upgrade.  I thought I would do
her a favor and post the ad on the list.  It reads:

======

CASSIOPEIA HAND-HELD PC
------------------------------------------
Exchanges data with Windows '95. Word, Excel, Microsoft Schedule loaded
on computer. Send & Receive E:mail and access the internet. Browse the
worldwide web. Keep contact list. Uplinks to your computer at home or
work.

======

I know you guys know all of the above. Well, anyways. Do you think you
know anyone that might be interested in buying something like that?  She
has all of the boxes (unopened), and the machine retails for $600+.  She
is willing to sell it for less.  How much should she be asking for?
Please let me know if you have any info.

Thanks,
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Subject:      Re: CASSIOPEIA for sale...

i don't know anyone that i hate enough to saddle with a winCE machine.
 sorry.  maybe one of al gore's "earth in the ballance" reading goups can be
convinced to buy it.  they appear to be willing to believe anything.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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It seems to me that using it would be possible if the proper drivers
existed for it.  The Card Batt Low message is designed for RAM
cards -- it doesn't mean anything in this case.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.

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>     I have an IBM PCMCIA SCSI card that I would L-O-V-E to be able to
> use in my 200LX. I suspect it draws too much current since I get a CARD
> BATTERY LOW warning whenever I insert it. It's part # 92G8169. Anyone
> using one of these &/or would one work if powered externally (doubleslo=
t
> for example) ??

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My ISP still allows dialup connections, and runs a program called
SOUPpacker, it will compress your mail and newsgroups, zip them into a file,
and download them to your computer. Then I run Paperboy, which unzips the
files and allows reading, replying, etc.

The cool feature is that each newsgroup is in its own text file with the
messages in sequential order and all headers attached. I use Transfile to
transfer the newsgroup I want to read, rename it as tthiel.nws, run PRNTI to
format, and then PNR to read, save, reply, etc.

Now all I need is a flash card so I could copy more than a couple of groups
at a time.


Tom Thiel
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     Hi!
     Well I just got news from the my company (H-P). They are reducing the
     price on the HP320LX by $100.00. Do not know about the 300LX. But the
     320 must be really selling for them to reduce the price.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-bren (bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    8/13/97 6:04 PM


> AMD 33MHz '386 processor, OS will be DOS 6.22 or Win 3.1
Ýsnip¨
> built in Motorola DataTAC wireless modem, $1,200, to ship this fall.
> However at 28oz it looks closer in size to a PC110 / Libretto-sized
Ýsnip¨
> But, does it send the msg that DOS-based handhelds aren't dead (tho most
> publications don't want to mention the HP x00lxs...), which is good...
> So why couldn't HP have done the same??

At last! An upgrade path! You know, you could run linux on this thing...

But expensive and heavy (28oz = .79 Kg, according to HP CALC:);
though including a wireless modem... and it could have a newton-size
keyboard already built in... :)

How hard would it be for HP to bring out a DOS versionÝ*¨ of the 300lx
hardware or a linux version? Perhaps HP has had this in mind all the time;
as a fall-back position after WinCE fails (or is firmly established).

Ý*¨ I never heard of DOS for a RISC processor ... maybe there's a good reason
for that?

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My opinion on this whole thing is that it is probably not the salvation =
of the
itty-bitty real computers.  I'm a bit cynical, here's what I think....

> At last! An upgrade path! You know, you could run linux on this thing..=
.

Perhaps -- but you'll be able to run linux on the 200LX RSN anyway, &
with this new computer's low-res screen it might not be the most
scintillating clocks you've ever spent.

> But expensive and heavy (28oz =3D .79 Kg, according to HP CALC:);
> though including a wireless modem... and it could have a newton-size
> keyboard already built in... :)

My opinion is that the 200's keyboard is nicer than the Newt's anyway,
and besides, with a Newt keyboard, it's the size of a laptop regardless.
The wireless modem is a good thought though, but 28 ozzes is too
heavy for my taste.  I like the 200's paperback book size and weight.
I paid about US$600 for my 200 4M and I don't think I would spend any
more per cu. in. than I already have.  (I figgered it out -- $20 per cubi=
c
inch!  wow...)

> How hard would it be for HP to bring out a DOS versionÝ*¨ of the 300lx
> hardware or a linux version? Perhaps HP has had this in mind all the =
time;
> as a fall-back position after WinCE fails (or is firmly established).

A linux port might not be tough but DOS is damn near impossible.  You'd =
need
an entirely new ASIC for a processor, peripheral, and display system that=
 would
run under DOS.  DOS is strictly Intel 80x86 - based, much like CP/M was =
8080-
based.  So basically the whole system would have to be redesigned.  Might=
 make
a good 400LX tho.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble about this issue, but that's the
way I see it coming around.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.

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Mark fraser wrote:
>
> The author has expressed a willingness to offer us a version that is
> compatible with the HP100/200LX CGA screen - any interest?
> /mark
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Mark fraser -----
>
> >From mfraser@asterix.helix.net Tue Aug 12 15:00 PDT 1997
> From: Mark fraser <mfraser@asterix.helix.net>
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
> Message-Id: <199708122200.PAA22320@obelix.helix.net>
> To: mfraser@helix.net
> Subject: (fwd) bobby14.zip - BOBBY v1.4: Full graphical file manager
> Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 1537
>
> Path: van1s03.cyberion.com!news.van.rns.net!news.rns.net!torn!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!209.69.19.20!simtel.net!not-for-mail
> From: ljaques@odyssey.on.ca (Jimmy and Jon Yergaw)
> Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.announce
> Subject: bobby14.zip - BOBBY v1.4: Full graphical file manager
> Keywords: simtel,msdos
> Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
> Message-ID: <9708110619.kp18942@Simtel.Net>
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 06:19:30 GMT
> Followup-To: comp.archives.msdos.d
> Sender: ms-news-request@simtel.net
> Organization: Simtel(tm), Simtel.Net(sm)
> Approved: w8sdz@Simtel.Net
> Lines: 25
>
> I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
>
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/bobby14.zip
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/bobby14.zip   1088831 bytes
>
> bobby14.zip     BOBBY v1.4: Full graphical file manager
>
> BOBBY is a graphicalized file managing DOS prompt replacer program that
> gives you the capabilities of all disk activities with special features
> like playing sounds, showing pictures, running your favorite programs all
> from a click of a specific pre-defined button that is either built into
> the program or from commands provided by you for a button.  Fully QEMM
> compatible.  Works under Win3.1/95.  Comprehensive manual and online
> help.
>
> Special requirements: VGA Graphics display and mouse.
>
> Changes: Bug fixes.  Fully QEMM Compatible.
>
> bobby14.zip has replaced bobby13b.zip.
>
> Public Domain.  Uploaded by the author.
>
> Jimmy and Jon Yergaw
> ljaques@odyssey.on.ca
>
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I am also interested.

Jim Smith

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<<     Well I just got news from the my company (H-P). They are reducing
the
     price on the HP320LX by $100.00. Do not know about the 300LX. But th=
e
     320 must be really selling for them to reduce the price.>>

Or not really selling - and just a market play. Compaq is advertising the=
ir
2 meg unit for $299. It could just be a response to the competition usher=
ed
in by multi manufacturers and a desire to move units before information o=
n
version 2 of WinCE begins to leak out....

     Carl

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> My opinion on this whole thing is that it is probably not the salvation of the
> itty-bitty real computers.  I'm a bit cynical, here's what I think....
>
> > At last! An upgrade path! You know, you could run linux on this thing...
>
> Perhaps -- but you'll be able to run linux on the 200LX RSN anyway, &
Even more cynicism: 200LX linux is a wonderful idea, even though memory
protection is not available. But is it really RSN? It's a big project, and
I'd guess only a handful of people are on it.

But: the removeable ROM on the 300lx suggests an OS upgrade? Plus, unix
surely rivals DOS in terms of (free) software availability.

Brendan

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> Ian Butler
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
> Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
> 200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>
>
> P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.
        ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
Flame-bait? Or just persuasive argument?

Whatever, I don't think it's appropriate in this friendly and gentle forum.

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > Ian Butler
> > Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
> > Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
> > 200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>
> >
> > P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.
>         ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
> Flame-bait? Or just persuasive argument?
>
> Whatever, I don't think it's appropriate in this friendly and gentle forum.

If you look at Mr. Butler's postings, they all say that.  P.S.: People like you ought to
be shot is part of his signature.  I don't think it was intended personally for whoever
wrote the posting he was responding to.  :)

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DON'T FORGET THE PACCOMM PICO PACKET TNC

73 SPENCE K4KEP

Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
> QRP is using a HP200LX, KPC3 (or Baycom)and a Standard 508. Complete
> station in a brief case with room to spare. hours of operation all on
> battery.
>
> Stephen Souza
> WB1BUH
> mailto:ssouza@iname.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Manuel ÝSMTP:n5em-qrp@MSN.COM¨
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 1997 10:37 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: FW: QRP Packet Terminal/Wordprocessor for sale
> >
> >
> > I like using the Mod100 for packet.  It works fine, but of course
> > there is
> > the problem of scrolling.  Solved that fine using the built in term
> > programs.
> >
> > But what is QRP about that?  I already use 100 milliwatts on 2 meters.
> > Are
> > you thinking of HF?
> >
> > Or are you just wanting to sell the rig setup you have?
> >
> > The Mod100 is QRP, but, am I misunderstanding?
> >
> > Tom   AD6N
> >
> >
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Several years ago I wrote a timekeeping system called TYME.  I
used it for my own computer consulting business, and ran it from
DOS on a desktop.  I no longer do consulting, but it may be the
answer for the palmtop.  I'll send it up to the SUPER site but
if anyone wants it sooner, email me directly.

Dennis Bell
dbell@wrq.com

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I notice that Landware has a driver for the Newton Keyboard for the Pilot.
It may be easy to transport the code for the LX.

JR

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My 1.8 meg stacked HP flash disk is telling me it is write protected
whenever I try to write to it.

How do I unprotect it? It also seems that some directories that I had
removed  have reappeared.

Thanks for the help.

Phil Godden
phil_godden@bigfoot.com

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At 10:17 AM 8/13/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Yes the Connectivity Pack supports windows (3.1)  and no it
>doesn't.
>Thats a realy short answer and shows the problems:
>
Using info from this list (and elsewhere) I have the Connectivity
Pack working reliably under Windows 95; other than the fact
that it has to run full screen, it works (for me) at least as well
as it does running on naked DOS.  The set up took a little work,
but it wasn't complicated...
John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
JohnStafford@bigfoot.com

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Thanks everyone! Got the program and it works beautifully.
Xerxez


Xerxez M. Calilung, D.D.S.
Founder/President, Dentalxchange Inc.
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http://dentalarts.com

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In message  <199708141154_MC2-1D1F-635@compuserve.com>, Phil_Godden@compuserve.com said:
> My 1.8 meg stacked HP flash disk is telling me it is write protected
> whenever I try to write to it.
>
> How do I unprotect it? It also seems that some directories that I had
> removed  have reappeared.

CHECK /F

Should fix your disk problems, and remove the protection.

Larry

ÝPalmtop News Reader - Version 1.2¨

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The 3x0LXs are upgradable via a new ROM, I think, because we had a beta
of WinCE 2.0 where they just give you a new ROM.

David J. Groom
Program Manager
ISBU - Publishing Systems
Microsoft, Corp

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brendan Macmillan ÝSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, August 13, 1997 10:59 PM
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        Subject:        Re: New DOS handheld...

        > My opinion on this whole thing is that it is probably not the
salvation of the
        > itty-bitty real computers.  I'm a bit cynical, here's what I
think....
        >
        > > At last! An upgrade path! You know, you could run linux on
this thing...
        >
        > Perhaps -- but you'll be able to run linux on the 200LX RSN
anyway, &
        Even more cynicism: 200LX linux is a wonderful idea, even though
memory
        protection is not available. But is it really RSN? It's a big
project, and
        I'd guess only a handful of people are on it.

        But: the removeable ROM on the 300lx suggests an OS upgrade?
Plus, unix
        surely rivals DOS in terms of (free) software availability.

        Brendan


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Say,
        How DO you open up an LX without breaking the case, anyway? Is there
some reference about is somewhere on the WEB?

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles

Mark fraser wrote:

> Unfortunately, you've got to take the unit apart just a little, so that
> you can press things back together.  And if you are only slightly
> less adept than I, it becomes a chore, but that's a different part of
> the FAQ....

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     Hello,

     Have you seen AuctionWeb?  I just bought a Megahertz 14.4 Modem for
     $35.97.  A search for past HP palmtop sales showed:

     HP 200LX Palmtop-EXCELLENT condition $215.02

     Palmtop Computer - HP100LX with 1meg memory $108.50

     HP200lx Palmtop $250.51

     HP200LX Palmtop Excellent Condition +Extras $260.00

     These prices aren't a steal, but they are less than retail.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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Subject:      Re: New DOS handheld...
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     Hi!
     I used to own a 320 lx and I for one do not believe that they just
     "give" you a ROM. I do believe that you are going to pay through our
     nose. Just my opinion.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-t-davidg (t-davidg@MICROSOFT.COM) at HP-ColSprings,shargw1
Date:    8/14/97 12:49 PM


The 3x0LXs are upgradable via a new ROM, I think, because we had a beta
of WinCE 2.0 where they just give you a new ROM.

David J. Groom
Program Manager
ISBU - Publishing Systems
Microsoft, Corp

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brendan Macmillan ÝSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, August 13, 1997 10:59 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: New DOS handheld...

        > My opinion on this whole thing is that it is probably not the
salvation of the
        > itty-bitty real computers.  I'm a bit cynical, here's what I
think....
        >
        > > At last! An upgrade path! You know, you could run linux on
this thing...
        >
        > Perhaps -- but you'll be able to run linux on the 200LX RSN
anyway, &
        Even more cynicism: 200LX linux is a wonderful idea, even though
memory
        protection is not available. But is it really RSN? It's a big
project, and
        I'd guess only a handful of people are on it.

        But: the removeable ROM on the 300lx suggests an OS upgrade?
Plus, unix
        surely rivals DOS in terms of (free) software availability.

        Brendan


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Subject:      Re: A Place to Buy for Less

Please note that some of the e-bay auction deals listed were with
reserve prices, and never real deals. I won two of them, the HP 200 to
215.02 and to 251.51 ($). But the first seller would not sell below 275
and the second one is not responding.

Just to inform you that the prices on e-bay not always reflect actual
sales.

Best regards,
Gert Thomasen, France

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I currently receive the digest form of this mailing list and use a DOS
based reader to help read the messages (LXDR downloaded from the S.U.P.E.=
R
site, I think). Does anyone know of an alternative maillist reader that
runs under Windows 95, and ideally allows the management of messages e.g.=

sorting, archiving, deleting etc. =


Thanks in advance

Laurence

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On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Bob Aldrich wrote:

> Say,
>         How DO you open up an LX without breaking the case, anyway? Is there
> some reference about is somewhere on the WEB?

Another list member, David Sargent, once posted a detailed description on
the web (I'm sure there are others too...I just happen to have bookmarked
his). Look at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm.

- Longden

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At 03:17 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I currently receive the digest form of this mailing list and use a DOS
>based reader to help read the messages (LXDR downloaded from the S.U.P.E.R
>site, I think). Does anyone know of an alternative maillist reader that
>runs under Windows 95, and ideally allows the management of messages e.g.
>sorting, archiving, deleting etc.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Laurence
>
Try Eudora Pro.  It's a Email program that allows multiple mailboxes with
all kinds of filtering, sorting,......etc.  Best on I've ever used.

Mark

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>----------
>From:  Mark SailerÝSMTP:msailer@ml.com¨
>Sent:  Thursday, August 14, 1997 2:32 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Maillist Reader
>
>At 03:17 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>I currently receive the digest form of this mailing list and use a DOS
>>based reader to help read the messages (LXDR downloaded from the S.U.P.E.R
>>site, I think). Does anyone know of an alternative maillist reader that
>>runs under Windows 95, and ideally allows the management of messages e.g.
>>sorting, archiving, deleting etc.
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Laurence
>>
>Try Eudora Pro.  It's a Email program that allows multiple mailboxes with
>all kinds of filtering, sorting,......etc.  Best on I've ever used.
>
>Mark

I'm using Microsponge Exchange.  Fits all the requirements and was here
when I walked up.  :)

Phil

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At 05.28 13/08/97 GMT, you wrote:
>No, alas, it's written for dos only and CGA stuff. I have it and it's a big
>disappointment. I bought it and returned it, it can do some things, but
Have a look to the HP site.  They have a new software called tfwin200.exe.
It works with 95 NT and 3.1


Greetings from Walter Pavesi
Milano - Italy
walter.pavesi@galactica.it
from 1-9-97  walter@wpavesi.com
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/pavesi/index.html

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Per the HP Product manager at COMDEX, upgrades to the ROM are $99.95.
Enjoy...Ken

-----Original Message-----
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Sent:   Thursday, August 14, 1997 3:09 PM
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     Hi!
     I used to own a 320 lx and I for one do not believe that they just
     "give" you a ROM. I do believe that you are going to pay through our
     nose. Just my opinion.

     Helmut in Colorado


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The 3x0LXs are upgradable via a new ROM, I think, because we had a beta
of WinCE 2.0 where they just give you a new ROM.

David J. Groom
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Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.

Phil

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>From:  Ken SimmonsÝSMTP:simmonsk@GROUPZ.NET¨
>Sent:  Thursday, August 14, 1997 2:07 PM
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>
>Per the HP Product manager at COMDEX, upgrades to the ROM are $99.95.
>Enjoy...Ken
>
>

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Subject:      Calculator World?

Has anyone here done business with Calculator World?  They're a
mail-order dealer in Bethel, PA that advertises in the Palmtop Paper.
Dejanews revealed only one mention of them (neutral), in connection
with the purchase of a 200LX.  I'm familiar with NSW and Educalc, but
both are out of stock on the item I seek and poor at handling
backorders.

                                -Jim.

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Hey, wouldn't that be a hoot! You could program in all your own favorite
programs, like packet programs, web browsers etc. and leave the rest
out!

Is this a real possibility?

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles


Phil Drummond wrote:
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> Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
> I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
> could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>

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<<I notice that Landware has a driver for the Newton Keyboard for the
Pilot.
It may be easy to transport the code for the LX.>>

It's already done. Check the S.U.P.E.R. site for the driver software.
Freeware. You'll need to supply the keyboard and connector to attach to
200LX serial port.

     Carl Merkle

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At 11:54 14/08/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Say,
>        How DO you open up an LX without breaking the case, anyway? Is there
>some reference about is somewhere on the WEB?

I think that the screws are under the four round rubbers in the back of the
200LX.

I saw some story about disassemblying the 200LX in a WEB page. The URL is:
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm

I guess that the instructions that come with the RAM upgrade will be
helpful too, if you find someone that can send you a copy.

Regards. Nacho.

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     Hi!
     Here is a Man. Now you are talking.

     Helmut in Colorado



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Author:  Non-HP-phil-drummond (phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM) at
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Date:    8/14/97 2:34 PM


Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Ken SimmonsÝSMTP:simmonsk@GROUPZ.NET¨
>Sent:  Thursday, August 14, 1997 2:07 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: New DOS handheld...
>
>Per the HP Product manager at COMDEX, upgrades to the ROM are $99.95.
>Enjoy...Ken
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 19:38:42 -0400
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From:         -Teresa Jackson <TeresaJ53@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: LX Keyboards

Yes, there are screws under the black rubber pads on the bottom of the case.
 I know I'm missing a pad and screw....Does anyone have extras or know where
I can get one of each?

tj

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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:52:51 -0700
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From:         David Groom <t-davidg@MICROSOFT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Maillist Reader

Microsoft Internet News, which can be downloaded alone or as part of IE
from www.microsoft.com

David J. Groom
Program Manager
ISBU - Publishing Systems
Microsoft, Corp

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Laurence Harvey ÝSMTP:harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
        Sent:   Thursday, August 14, 1997 12:17 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Maillist Reader

        I currently receive the digest form of this mailing list and use
a DOS
        based reader to help read the messages (LXDR downloaded from the
S.U.P.E.R
        site, I think). Does anyone know of an alternative maillist
reader that
        runs under Windows 95, and ideally allows the management of
messages e.g.
        sorting, archiving, deleting etc.

        Thanks in advance

        Laurence


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Subject:      Re: LX Keyboards

HP makes a maintenance kit for $20, I believe the details are in a
recent issue of HPPP.  It includes screws, IR covers, pads, etc.

David J. Groom
Program Manager
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Microsoft, Corp

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   -Teresa Jackson ÝSMTP:TeresaJ53@AOL.COM¨
        Sent:   Thursday, August 14, 1997 4:39 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: LX Keyboards

        Yes, there are screws under the black rubber pads on the bottom
of the case.
         I know I'm missing a pad and screw....Does anyone have extras
or know where
        I can get one of each?

        tj


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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:27:25 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Shark 250 Meg drive question

It seems strange that the hardware would require a 486 and 8MB, are you
sure that isn't something to do with some of the software (i.e. for
Win95)?

David J. Groom
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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Marty ÝSMTP:mlp@FLASH.NET¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, August 13, 1997 5:19 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Shark 250 Meg drive question

        I just got a Shark 250 Meg PC Parallel Port mobile hard drive
made by
        Avatar for my laptop.

        According to the specs it needs a 486 or better processor with 8
Meg of
        Ram to operate.

        Is there any hope of hooking this up to my 200LX since it

        1. Doesn't have a 486,
        2. Doesn't have 8 Meg of RAM, and
        3. Doesn't have a parallel port?

        Anyone done it?

        I know on the surface it looks impossible, but people in this
group do
        some truely amazing things with their HPLX's.

        Thanks,

        Marty Porter


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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 19:15:23 PDT
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Subject:      Re: (not really) New DOS handheld...
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The man's right, Mr. McMillan.  I have here a direct quote from Dave Barr=
y,
famous humor columnist, who says,

        "Ha ha!  It's a joke, son."

The P.S. line is just a creative "zinger" which makes people read my
signature more closely.  I'm sorry if it offended you; it's not meant to =
be
an ad hominem attack on the person reading it, it's supposed to
cause a double-take, which apparently it did.  ;)

We now resume our normal scheduled broadcast day....

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.

----------
> > Brendan McMillan wrote:
> > > Ian Butler
> > > Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
> > > Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
> > > 200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>
> > >
> > > P.S.  People like you ought to be shot.
> >         ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
> > Flame-bait? Or just persuasive argument?
> >
> > Whatever, I don't think it's appropriate in this friendly and gentle =
forum.
>
> If you look at Mr. Butler's postings, they all say that.  P.S.: People =
like
> you ought to
> be shot is part of his signature.  I don't think it was intended person=
ally
> for whoever
> wrote the posting he was responding to.  :)

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I had one, they're trash and for the price, they should have Flash Rom and
get a free new set of bugs free!

JR

At 03:34 PM 8/14/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
>I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
>could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>
>Phil
>
>>----------
>>From:  Ken SimmonsÝSMTP:simmonsk@GROUPZ.NET¨
>>Sent:  Thursday, August 14, 1997 2:07 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:       Re: New DOS handheld...
>>
>>Per the HP Product manager at COMDEX, upgrades to the ROM are $99.95.
>>Enjoy...Ken
>>
>>
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If anybody wants one, I have 2 to sell, a 1 meg...$200, a 2 meg for $250
both with books and in excellent condition! LX200 that is. NO BIDDING, I'm
here! I answer the phone, I have them, I can ship them COD. I have a 4 meg
and love it! These can be bastardized to Pentium 266's if you like. I'd
love to see one! PC in your Pocket!

JR


At 04:32 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Has anyone here done business with Calculator World?  They're a
>mail-order dealer in Bethel, PA that advertises in the Palmtop Paper.
>Dejanews revealed only one mention of them (neutral), in connection
>with the purchase of a 200LX.  I'm familiar with NSW and Educalc, but
>both are out of stock on the item I seek and poor at handling
>backorders.
>
>                                -Jim.
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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:19:21 -0700
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How many keyboards do you guys want, I'll find um!

JR


At 04:58 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
><<I notice that Landware has a driver for the Newton Keyboard for the
>Pilot.
>It may be easy to transport the code for the LX.>>
>
>It's already done. Check the S.U.P.E.R. site for the driver software.
>Freeware. You'll need to supply the keyboard and connector to attach to
>200LX serial port.
>
>     Carl Merkle
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Any particular place?

JR

At 04:58 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>There will be a user group meeting for people interested in HP Palmtops on
>September 6, 1997 from 9:00 am to 12:00 noon. Contact Ralph Alvy by e-mail
>at 71333.2075@compuserve.com for location details or to get on the user
>group notice mailing list.
>
>     Carl Merkle
>     ÝSS&S¨
>     www.shier.com
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Helmut...You're a HOOT! If they'll hire people like you, then maybe me too?!

JR


At 05:05 PM 8/14/97 -0600, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     Here is a Man. Now you are talking.
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
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>Subject: Re: New DOS handheld...
>Author:  Non-HP-phil-drummond (phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM) at
>HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
>Date:    8/14/97 2:34 PM
>
>
>Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
>I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
>could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>
>Phil
>
>>----------
>>From:  Ken SimmonsÝSMTP:simmonsk@GROUPZ.NET¨
>>Sent:  Thursday, August 14, 1997 2:07 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:       Re: New DOS handheld...
>>
>>Per the HP Product manager at COMDEX, upgrades to the ROM are $99.95.
>>Enjoy...Ken
>>
>>
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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:25:53 -0700
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You can only find them with magnetized Torx drivers.

I'll bet TechRam has a few extra parts!

JR

At 07:38 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes, there are screws under the black rubber pads on the bottom of the case.
> I know I'm missing a pad and screw....Does anyone have extras or know where
>I can get one of each?
>
>tj
>
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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:48:39 -0700
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Thanks,
        got it from two sources, and all within a couple of hours!

Bob Aldrich

Ignacio Garc=F5a P=F4rez wrote:
>=20
> At 11:54 14/08/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >Say,
> >        How DO you open up an LX without breaking the case, anyway? Is=
 there
> >some reference about is somewhere on the WEB?
>=20
> I think that the screws are under the four round rubbers in the back of=
 the
> 200LX.
>=20
> I saw some story about disassemblying the 200LX in a WEB page. The URL =
is:
> http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm
>=20
> I guess that the instructions that come with the RAM upgrade will be
> helpful too, if you find someone that can send you a copy.
>=20
> Regards. Nacho.

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How much?


At 06:48 PM 8/14/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Thanks,
>        got it from two sources, and all within a couple of hours!
>
>Bob Aldrich
>
>Ignacio Garc=F5a P=F4rez wrote:
>>=20
>> At 11:54 14/08/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Say,
>> >        How DO you open up an LX without breaking the case, anyway? Is
there
>> >some reference about is somewhere on the WEB?
>>=20
>> I think that the screws are under the four round rubbers in the back of=
 the
>> 200LX.
>>=20
>> I saw some story about disassemblying the 200LX in a WEB page. The URL=
 is:
>> http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm
>>=20
>> I guess that the instructions that come with the RAM upgrade will be
>> helpful too, if you find someone that can send you a copy.
>>=20
>> Regards. Nacho.
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I am trying to install Compuserve's DOSCIM and had trouble since the
install program that is uses will only install to a hard disk -- so it
won't allow you to install to a:.

How do I get install to think that a: is c:?

Thanks,

Phil Godden
Phil_Godden@Bigfoot.com
Phil_Godden@compuserve.com

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     Hi!
     Try E:

     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    8/14/97 8:40 PM


I am trying to install Compuserve's DOSCIM and had trouble since the
install program that is uses will only install to a hard disk -- so it
won't allow you to install to a:.

How do I get install to think that a: is c:?

Thanks,

Phil Godden
Phil_Godden@Bigfoot.com
Phil_Godden@compuserve.com

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Date:         Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:35:37 -0700
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BOYD S. MINER wrote:

> DON'T FORGET THE PACCOMM PICO PACKET TNC
>
> 73 SPENCE K4KEP
>
> Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
> >
> > QRP is using a HP200LX, KPC3 (or Baycom)and a Standard 508. Complete
>
> > station in a brief case with room to spare. hours of operation all
> on
> > battery.
> >
> > Stephen Souza
> > WB1BUH
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ed Manuel ÝSMTP:n5em-qrp@MSN.COM¨
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 1997 10:37 AM
> > > To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> > > Subject:      Re: FW: QRP Packet Terminal/Wordprocessor for sale
> > >
> > >
> > > I like using the Mod100 for packet.  It works fine, but of course
> > > there is
> > > the problem of scrolling.  Solved that fine using the built in
> term
> > > programs.
> >snip >

         A quick note.  I am running my HP200LX 2meg, with a 10meg
flash-ram
card. I am also using a homemade serial cable (with help from the SIG)
that
interfaces to a KPC-3 TNC. This all ties to my Kenwood HT-79AD Ham
Radio. I run APRS on it and am working on a HSP cable to also interface
my Garmin GPS II. It all runs great with no glitches.  HP made a nice
piece
of Hardware with this one.
--
  Kurt O. Jauss
     kf6hjo@lightspeed.net

    Selma Ca. {APRS Weather & GPS Traker}

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> Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
> I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
> could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>
> Phil
>
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Man! That would be totally COOL.  I too would invest my dollars for that
machine!!!  Count me in!

Marta

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>      I used to own a 320 lx and I for one do not believe that they=
 just
>      "give" you a ROM. I do believe that you are going to pay through=
 our
>      nose. Just my opinion.

I also would suspect that when you finally have your new ROM, the most
urgent thing you want to have is then either another new ROM (which=
 is
supposed to fix all the bugs and deficiencies of your new ROM - this
goes on in an endless selling loop) or you will urgently want to buy=
 a
new, more powerful machine that can keep up with the new memory and
speed demands the new ROM will have.

Why should MS behave any more "customer friendly" in the PDA market
than they do in the desktop market?

All just my personal opinion.

Andreas

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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:28:14 CDT."
              <c=US%a=_%p=PageNet%l=NTHOU01-970813202814Z-2034@pagenet.com>

Phil Drummond wrote:

> On the subject of PCMCIA software support, does a driver (config.sys)
> exist to "install" a TransDigital PCMCIA parallel port _before_ the Zip
> Disk driver?  The problem as I see it is, in order to use a Zip Drive
> from within the Application Manager, the zip drive must be enabled in
> the config.sys phase due to (my experience) the incompatibilities
> between Zip's Guest.exe and the Application Manager software.

I don't (yet) own a TransPC, so what little I know if from Craig Payne's
review and the Zip docs (from the web site).  Craig Payne reported
successfully transferring files to and from the Zip with the TransPC.
Since the review was of the card and its software, details of the Zip
software were scant.  It isn't clear whether he used GUEST.EXE, much
less where it was installed.  It also isn't clear if the file copies
from DOS.

To which experience are you referring?  Have you used the Zip with the
Quatech?

                                -Jim.

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I must have missed the web address for this place. Would someone please
post it again?

Thanks,

Paul

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> The P.S. line is just a creative "zinger" which makes people read my
> signature more closely.  I'm sorry if it offended you; it's not meant to be
> an ad hominem attack on the person reading it, it's supposed to
> cause a double-take, which apparently it did.  ;)

Well, Mr Butler, I did at first think it was a joke, so I had a look at
the only other of your posts I had - but that posting didn't include the line
in question! Ho, Ho, I thought. However, I am glad to discover that it is
just a normal part of your sig.

By the way, surely a "zinger" closely resembles flame-bait, in that it seeks
a similar response? Congratulations! :)

I am of course joking. I still think it's offensive; OTOH, it's *extremely*
silly to be offended by flame-bait...


BUT - returning to topicality, however fleetingly: if someone went to the
trouble of writing a version linux for the 3x0lx (which I think would be
easier than writing one for the 200lx) you could install by just popping a
ROM in (more or less)! And the 3x0lx is a much more powerful machine - it's
just that it's strangled by its *wince* OS.

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Subject:      ReÝ2¨: A Place to Buy for Less - www.ebay.com
Comments: To:
          HELMUT-GROSSINGER-at-om/HP-ColSprings_mimegw1////////HPMEXT1/HELMUT#095#GROSSINGER#a#HP-ColSprings-om1#f#om#f#hp#f#com@i3125om2.atl.hp.com
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     Hello,

     My apologies for not including the URL for AutionWeb.  It is
     http://www.ebay.com.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com




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     Hi!
     Where do you find AuctioWeb?

     Helmut in Colorado Springs 0800

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I would be interested in one at a better price than J&R Computer sells them
for.

Mark

At 06:19 PM 8/14/97 -0700, you wrote:
>How many keyboards do you guys want, I'll find um!
>
>JR
>
>
>At 04:58 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>><<I notice that Landware has a driver for the Newton Keyboard for the
>>Pilot.
>>It may be easy to transport the code for the LX.>>
>>
>>It's already done. Check the S.U.P.E.R. site for the driver software.
>>Freeware. You'll need to supply the keyboard and connector to attach to
>>200LX serial port.
>>
>>     Carl Merkle
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Try the "assign" command, or find a full release of DOS 5.0 and use the
"subst" command.  Both commands are "external" so you can copy the subst
command to your HP from where ever you have DOS 5 located.  Assign is
all ready on your HP.
Good luck!

Phil

>----------
>From:  Phil GoddenÝSMTP:Phil_Godden@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
>Sent:  Thursday, August 14, 1997 9:40 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Making the A drive think it's c
>
>I am trying to install Compuserve's DOSCIM and had trouble since the
>install program that is uses will only install to a hard disk -- so it
>won't allow you to install to a:.
>
>How do I get install to think that a: is c:?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Phil Godden
>Phil_Godden@Bigfoot.com
>Phil_Godden@compuserve.com
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John, the meeting is held in someone's home near Brentwood in Los Angeles=
=2E
As mentioned, contact Ralph for specific location and directions.

     Carl

>Any particular place?
>
>JR
>
>At 04:58 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>There will be a user group meeting for people interested in HP Palmtops=

on
>>September 6, 1997 from 9:00 am to 12:00 noon. Contact Ralph Alvy by
e-mail
>>at 71333.2075@compuserve.com for location details or to get on the user=

>>group notice mailing list.

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> Date          Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:52:08 -0600
> Reply-to      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> From          Helmut Grossinger <HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.H=
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> Subject       Re: Making the A drive think it's c
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

>      Hi!
>      Try E:
>
Well, I'm having a similar problem when using Qualx!, the email
utility that enables you to use the built-in cc:mail application to
receive and send mail via the internet using UQWK.

As the documentation states, one can only configure the c:\_mail or
a:\_mail directory for receiving email. Since my flashcard
(Smart) installs as F: and cannot be installed as A:, I have to
receive email in the much smaller C: drive.

I am looking for a way to make Qualx! recognize the messages.dat file
on my F: drive when received in f:_mail.

The "assign e:=3Da:" command in my autoexec.bat seems not to work with
my card since changing drive to E: results in en error message ("not
ready" I believe it is).

Anyone have an idea about this?


----- end of forwarded message -----


*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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try assign f:=a: instead. This will make your card appear as a: or f:,
also make sure your last drive setting is correct.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind ÝSMTP:MCHEM1@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 1997 10:26 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      HPLX-L: FWD from MAIL.XS4ALL.NL
>
> > Date          Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:52:08 -0600
> > Reply-to      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > From          Helmut Grossinger
> <HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM>
> > Subject       Re: Making the A drive think it's c
> > To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> >      Hi!
> >      Try E:
> >
> Well, I'm having a similar problem when using Qualx!, the email
> utility that enables you to use the built-in cc:mail application to
> receive and send mail via the internet using UQWK.
>
> As the documentation states, one can only configure the c:\_mail or
> a:\_mail directory for receiving email. Since my flashcard
> (Smart) installs as F: and cannot be installed as A:, I have to
> receive email in the much smaller C: drive.
>
> I am looking for a way to make Qualx! recognize the messages.dat file
> on my F: drive when received in f:_mail.
>
> The "assign e:=a:" command in my autoexec.bat seems not to work with
> my card since changing drive to E: results in en error message ("not
> ready" I believe it is).
>
> Anyone have an idea about this?
>
>
> ----- end of forwarded message -----
>
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Al Kind wrote:

> As the documentation states, one can only configure the c:\_mail or
> a:\_mail directory for receiving email. Since my flashcard
> (Smart) installs as F: and cannot be installed as A:, I have to
> receive email in the much smaller C: drive.
>
> I am looking for a way to make Qualx! recognize the messages.dat file
> on my F: drive when received in f:_mail.
>
> The "assign e:=a:" command in my autoexec.bat seems not to work with
> my card since changing drive to E: results in en error message ("not
> ready" I believe it is).
>
> Anyone have an idea about this?

If your card installs as F:, rather than A:, maybe you should try:

"assign a:=f:"

I would think you're getting the "not ready" msg cuz the "assign e:=a:" is
trying to re-designate the A drive....but there isn't one.

- Longden

PS - You can also try the DOS SUBST command (found on full DOS 5-6.22
installs). Using it would free 1.5k of conventional memory. I guess the
command would be something like:

subst a: f:\

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Hello!
I've got some problems with my HP 340 printer and my HP 200LX. When I
print via IR the letters =E5=3D"fn + 7" =E4=3D"fn + 5" and =F6=3D"fn + 4"=
 is
converted to some strange characters.
Is there any way to fix it?

If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown to?

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I guess I should have been a bit clearer.  My TransPC card does work in
DOS mode on my HP, I just can't get it to work with the App Manager.

>----------
>From:  Jim GonzalezÝSMTP:gonzalez@lads.is.lmco.com¨
>Sent:  Friday, August 15, 1997 12:37 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Adaptec APA-1460-A (aka Slim SCSI) Doesn't Work
>
>Phil Drummond wrote:
>
>> On the subject of PCMCIA software support, does a driver (config.sys)
>> exist to "install" a TransDigital PCMCIA parallel port _before_ the Zip
>> Disk driver?  The problem as I see it is, in order to use a Zip Drive
>> from within the Application Manager, the zip drive must be enabled in
>> the config.sys phase due to (my experience) the incompatibilities
>> between Zip's Guest.exe and the Application Manager software.
>
>I don't (yet) own a TransPC, so what little I know if from Craig Payne's
>review and the Zip docs (from the web site).  Craig Payne reported
>successfully transferring files to and from the Zip with the TransPC.
>Since the review was of the card and its software, details of the Zip
>software were scant.  It isn't clear whether he used GUEST.EXE, much
>less where it was installed.  It also isn't clear if the file copies
>from DOS.
>
>To which experience are you referring?  Have you used the Zip with the
>Quatech?

No, TransPC was my first/only attempt.

>                                -Jim.
>

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Does anybody know where I can find Software Carousel?

karl

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A shot in the dark suggestion...  try another font via the printer's
front panel controls.

Phil

>----------
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>Sent:  Friday, August 15, 1997 10:42 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       IR-printing
>
>Hello!
>I've got some problems with my HP 340 printer and my HP 200LX. When I
>print via IR the letters =E5=3D"fn + 7" =E4=3D"fn + 5" and =F6=3D"fn + =
4" is
>converted to some strange characters.
>Is there any way to fix it?
>
>If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown to?
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I have been an user of the HP palmtop since the 95LX. I work in a hospital
and always carry it in the pocket of my white coat. After 4 years of
continuous use and multiple fallen, my dear palmtop died. Recently, some
months ago, I had to take a difficult decision: What palmtop would it
substitute to my LX95? After analyzing carefully the option of the new ones
with Windows CE, I took the decision of buying a LX200 with 4 Mb (of what I
don't repent, only of not having had the 200LX before). My desire was that
the programs of the PIM ran with my PC under Windows 95. For this purpose I
bought the HP Palmtop Software Kit (Yellow Computing). This kit includes:
the Transfile Win 200 (connectivity and backup software), a CD - ROM with
multiple programs freeware or shareware, a connection cable and a version
for Windows of the Phonebook and the Appointment book. HP has developed
these last two programs and they run under a Windows 95 interface (not in a
window of DOS as the programs of the Connectivity Pack). Regrettably the
other programs of the PIM, like the database or the Note-taker, are not
available in a Windows' version. If anybody knows about other applications
of the PIM for the Windows environment, she/he could give it to know to this
list.

I think the HP 200LX could have a long and prosperous life if HP takes more
support for it and its users. My ideal would be:

1) All the programs (including the calculator) of the PIM should be
available, at least, in these platforms: DOS, Windows 3.1, 95 and NT, Mac.

2) This software should have a true synchronization function.

Regrettably I am pessimistic in that respect. HP has abandoned the LX series
and they think the Windows CE it is the future (and present). At least I
hope that in 4-5 years, when I should possibly change my Palmtop, the
Windows CE has evolved enough so that the transition is to improve and it
does not to worsen.

======================================================
Miguel T. Hernandez-Garcia, MD
mthernandez@jet.es   -   mthernan@ull.es
Hematology/Internal Medicine Department
Hospital Univ. de Canarias
Ofra. La Laguna
E-38320 S/C de Tenerife
SPAIN
======================================================

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>----------
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>Sent:  Friday, August 15, 1997 1:02 PM
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><snip>
>If anybody knows about other applications
>of the PIM for the Windows environment, she/he could give it to know to this
>list.
>
>I think the HP 200LX could have a long and prosperous life if HP takes more
>support for it and its users. My ideal would be:
>
>1) All the programs (including the calculator) of the PIM should be
>available, at least, in these platforms: DOS, Windows 3.1, 95 and NT, Mac.

May I suggest Pyuma Technologies IntelliSync.  This program serves
_very_ well as a bridge between Microsponge's Schedule Plus (including
both appointments and contacts) as well as support for some other data
formats.

>2) This software should have a true synchronization function.

See above.  IntelliSync even handles "collisions" between the
information on the palmtop and in Schedule Plus.

>Regrettably I am pessimistic in that respect. HP has abandoned the LX series
>and they think the Windows CE it is the future (and present). At least I
>hope that in 4-5 years, when I should possibly change my Palmtop, the
>Windows CE has evolved enough so that the transition is to improve and it
>does not to worsen.

HP better not abandon the palmtop (95/100/200, etc.) they can't afford
to lose that many professionals.  I'm sure some of my equipment
purchasing is a direct result of the usefulness of my 200LX.

>======================================================
>Miguel T. Hernandez-Garcia, MD
>mthernandez@jet.es   -   mthernan@ull.es
>Hematology/Internal Medicine Department
>Hospital Univ. de Canarias
>Ofra. La Laguna
>E-38320 S/C de Tenerife
>SPAIN
>======================================================

Phil Drummond (sorry, I don't actually have a "professional" standing in
my industry, but I do spend someone else's money as part of my
profession.  :)

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I ould like to use the calendar of the built in diary for one of my
prog. How can i do that?
the aim is to have a project manager with days, month, week, without
having to maka a calendar procedure (date generator).

                thanks

                                F.X.

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On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Karl DeLyria wrote:

> Does anybody know where I can find Software Carousel?

Educalc (www.educalc.com), 800-677-7001. They had it for $79.95 in my last
catalog (#74).

You may also try Notebook Supply Warehouse 800-566-6832. Once upon a time,
they were giving away a free copy of SC with every LX memory upgrade.

The makers of SC is Sunshine Software (I don't have their number).

HTH.

- Longden

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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Karl DeLyria wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know where I can find Software Carousel?
>
> Educalc (www.educalc.com), 800-677-7001. They had it for $79.95 in my
> last
> catalog (#74).
>
> You may also try Notebook Supply Warehouse 800-566-6832. Once upon a
> time,
> they were giving away a free copy of SC with every LX memory upgrade.

Or you can purchase it direct from Sunshine Software at 1-800-553-0400
for $89.95.  Try Educalc first, as they sell it $10 less.

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EDUCALC DOES/DID CARRY IT.

SPENCE, K4KEP

Karl DeLyria wrote:
>
> Does anybody know where I can find Software Carousel?
>
> karl
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SUGGEST YOU DOCTORS GET TOGETHER A TEAM AND GIVE THE CEO AND PALMTOP
HONCHO AT HP A "BRAIN TRANSPLANT". THEY BOTH NEED ON DESPARATLY ALONG
WITH "BG".

MAY WINCE FALL IN A 1000 MILE DEEP GULLY.

SPENCE, K4KEP


MTHG wrote:
>
> I have been an user of the HP palmtop since the 95LX. I work in a hospital
> and always carry it in the pocket of my white coat. After 4 years of
> continuous use and multiple fallen, my dear palmtop died. Recently, some
> months ago, I had to take a difficult decision: What palmtop would it
> substitute to my LX95? After analyzing carefully the option of the new ones
> with Windows CE, I took the decision of buying a LX200 with 4 Mb (of what I
> don't repent, only of not having had the 200LX before). My desire was that
> the programs of the PIM ran with my PC under Windows 95. For this purpose I
> bought the HP Palmtop Software Kit (Yellow Computing). This kit includes:
> the Transfile Win 200 (connectivity and backup software), a CD - ROM with
> multiple programs freeware or shareware, a connection cable and a version
> for Windows of the Phonebook and the Appointment book. HP has developed
> these last two programs and they run under a Windows 95 interface (not in a
> window of DOS as the programs of the Connectivity Pack). Regrettably the
> other programs of the PIM, like the database or the Note-taker, are not
> available in a Windows' version. If anybody knows about other applications
> of the PIM for the Windows environment, she/he could give it to know to this
> list.
>
> I think the HP 200LX could have a long and prosperous life if HP takes more
> support for it and its users. My ideal would be:
>
> 1) All the programs (including the calculator) of the PIM should be
> available, at least, in these platforms: DOS, Windows 3.1, 95 and NT, Mac.
>
> 2) This software should have a true synchronization function.
>
> Regrettably I am pessimistic in that respect. HP has abandoned the LX series
> and they think the Windows CE it is the future (and present). At least I
> hope that in 4-5 years, when I should possibly change my Palmtop, the
> Windows CE has evolved enough so that the transition is to improve and it
> does not to worsen.
>
> ======================================================
> Miguel T. Hernandez-Garcia, MD
> mthernandez@jet.es   -   mthernan@ull.es
> Hematology/Internal Medicine Department
> Hospital Univ. de Canarias
> Ofra. La Laguna
> E-38320 S/C de Tenerife
> SPAIN
> ======================================================
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I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
describing the condition of the
unit and price.

Predrag@mindspring.com

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I passed along Phil Drummond's question to Craig Payne, who had reviewed
the TransPC in the Palmtop Paper.  I asked if he had done his file
copying test in AppMgr or just DOS.  His reply:

    No, I tested in plain DOS and AppMgr. But I may have not used the latest
    code. Transdigital supplies code in the ROM on the card. Has he contacted
    Transdigital?

                                -Jim.

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predrag wrote:

> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with

Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go,
you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
expensive for the upgrade.

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Who sells the 8 meg upgrade.  I'm about to ship out my 200 to TechTimes2.
Do they do it??
Mark

At 12:40 PM 8/15/97 -0700, you wrote:
>predrag wrote:
>
>> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
>> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
>
>Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
>with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go,
>you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
>expensive for the upgrade.
>
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I'm curious about the configuration Mr. Payne used to test his TransPC
card and the Zip Drive.  Would someone with a working setup post the
config.sys and autoexec.bat files they are using?  Also please make
notes of any other configuration "hints" which might bring me from the
dark pit of stupidity I seem to be wandering about in.  :)

Phil

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>Sent:  Friday, August 15, 1997 2:41 PM
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>
>I passed along Phil Drummond's question to Craig Payne, who had reviewed
>the TransPC in the Palmtop Paper.  I asked if he had done his file
>copying test in AppMgr or just DOS.  His reply:
>
>    No, I tested in plain DOS and AppMgr. But I may have not used the latest
>    code. Transdigital supplies code in the ROM on the card. Has he contacted
>    Transdigital?
>
>                                -Jim.
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At risk of frowns from the List... Whats the current price asked for
8meg of palmtop bliss?  Is this upgrade as simple as unplugging the
memory card in there and plugging in a new one?

Phil
(feel free to tell me when I am "talking" too much)

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>
>predrag wrote:
>
>> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
>> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
>
>Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
>with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go,
>you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
>expensive for the upgrade.
>

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Mark Sailer wrote:

> Who sells the 8 meg upgrade.  I'm about to ship out my 200 to
> TechTimes2.
> Do they do it??
> Mark

Yes, Times2Tech does the 8mb upgrade.  You have to request it, though.

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Phil Drummond wrote:

> At risk of frowns from the List... Whats the current price asked for
> 8meg of palmtop bliss?  Is this upgrade as simple as unplugging the
> memory card in there and plugging in a new one?
>

It was $249 for a newer 2MB 200LX, $269 (I think) for an older one, last
time I checked.  It's much more difficult than the 6mb upgrade,
involving soldering and cutting out of existing chips.  Thus, you have
to send in your palmtop to Times2Tech to get it done.  No "at home" kit.

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>Who sells the 8 meg upgrade.  I'm about to ship out my 200 to TechTimes2.
>Do they do it??

From what I understand from the guy's at NSW, not all 200LX machines will go
to 8MB. And the last I heard, they were still giving away Software Carousel
with their upgrades.

Mitch

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----- forwarded message -----

> Date          Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:30:59 -0400
> Reply-to      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> From          "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@EXCHG.CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
> Subject       Re: HPLX-L: FWD from MAIL.XS4ALL.NL
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> try assign f:=3Da: instead. This will make your card appear as a:=
 or f:,
> also make sure your last drive setting is correct.
>

> >
> > Well, I'm having a similar problem when using Qualx!, the email
> > utility that enables you to use the built-in cc:mail application=
 to
> > receive and send mail via the internet using UQWK.
> >
> > As the documentation states, one can only configure the c:\_mail=
 or
> > a:\_mail directory for receiving email. Since my flashcard
> > (Smart) installs as F: and cannot be installed as A:, I have to
> > receive email in the much smaller C: drive.
> >
> > I am looking for a way to make Qualx! recognize the messages.dat=
 file
> > on my F: drive when received in f:_mail.
> >
> > The "assign e:=3Da:" command in my autoexec.bat seems not to work=
 with
> > my card since changing drive to E: results in en error message ("not
> > ready" I believe it is).
> >

Well, I tampered around with this for a while and did
as follows:

 I deleted the assign e:=3Da: and replaced it first with f:=3Da:
Result: the palmtop could not find the flash card any longer.

But  when I turned things around (assign a:=3Df:), all worked
perfectly well and still does...

Thanks!

Frank


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Is this the Software Carousel of years gone by or is this current stuff? I
remember it from my heavy Bulletin Board Sysop days. What is the current
version?

JR

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John Ramos wrote:

> Is this the Software Carousel of years gone by or is this current
> stuff? I
> remember it from my heavy Bulletin Board Sysop days. What is the
> current
> version?

This is the Software Carousel of years gone by, but newly rewritten
specifically for the HP 200LX.  Special functions like alarm
recognition, blue key recognition, keyboard configuration-- all
specifically for the 200LX.  I have version 6.80, which I think is
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Date:         Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:49:34 -0400
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 I bought my 200LX on E-bay for $300 with a 10 Meg flash card, cable,
nicads, charger, etc. I thought it was a good deal. AND the system is in
good shape.
I guess it just depends on the seller.

Don

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>Please note that some of the e-bay auction deals listed were with
>reserve prices, and never real deals. I won two of them, the HP 200 to
>215.02 and to 251.51 ($). But the first seller would not sell below 275
>and the second one is not responding.
>
>Just to inform you that the prices on e-bay not always reflect actual
>sales.
>
>Best regards,
>Gert Thomasen, France
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 Thanks for the tip. I was curious, but not about to try it alone.

Don

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>On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Bob Aldrich wrote:
>
>> Say,
>>         How DO you open up an LX without breaking the case, anyway? Is
there
>> some reference about is somewhere on the WEB?
>
>Another list member, David Sargent, once posted a detailed description on
>the web (I'm sure there are others too...I just happen to have bookmarked
>his). Look at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm.
>
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Ok, thanks for that...wasn't it part of Quarterdeck in the early days,
don't think they wrote it (when the 2 women owned the company), someone
else picked it up? Just curious.

JR

At 04:59 PM 8/15/97 -0700, you wrote:
>John Ramos wrote:
>
>> Is this the Software Carousel of years gone by or is this current
>> stuff? I
>> remember it from my heavy Bulletin Board Sysop days. What is the
>> current
>> version?
>
>This is the Software Carousel of years gone by, but newly rewritten
>specifically for the HP 200LX.  Special functions like alarm
>recognition, blue key recognition, keyboard configuration-- all
>specifically for the 200LX.  I have version 6.80, which I think is
>current.
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Does anyone have a history on the LX200's, are they still being made? I
have a 96 4 meg. If they are, it a secret message that HP can't kill um!

JR


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>predrag wrote:
>
>> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
>> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
>
>Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
>with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go,
>you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
>expensive for the upgrade.
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And what does it do? What's wrong with using batch files and or the
filer program to launch programs? Is this some sort of substitute?

Bob


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> Is this the Software Carousel of years gone by or is this current stuff? I
> remember it from my heavy Bulletin Board Sysop days. What is the current
> version?
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     Hi!
     Yes the are still being made in Singapore by HP. The latest version is
     a 4 Mb one. The also make the 2 Mb.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Does anyone have a history on the LX200's, are they still being made? I
have a 96 4 meg. If they are, it a secret message that HP can't kill um!

JR


At 12:40 PM 8/15/97 -0700, you wrote:
>predrag wrote:
>
>> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
>> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
>
>Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb >with
the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go, >you
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Bob Aldrich wrote:

> And what does it do? What's wrong with using batch files and or the
> filer program to launch programs? Is this some sort of substitute?

No, Software Carousel is a task switching program.  With it, you can run
several copies of the System Manager or DOS applications at once, each
with its own environment.  It used to be used frequently for application
switching on desktop machines, but nowadays, with Windows, nobody needs
a DOS multitasker.  Except us palmtop users...

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To all those sharp cookies who didn't respond to this post:

Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
> I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
> could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>

and,

Is this a real possibility?

How about it? Is this a possibility? Would an HP320LX reprogram (ROM) to
run with DOS?


Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Of course it a possibility, after all you just spent $700 for a palmtop
that crashes without notice, is pretend windows and doesn't support
anything. I'll pay another $99 for an improved edition! Maybe it will work
this time!

JR


>To all those sharp cookies who didn't respond to this post:
>
>Forgive me but I coulden't resist...
>> I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
>> could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>>
>
>and,
>
>Is this a real possibility?
>
>How about it? Is this a possibility? Would an HP320LX reprogram (ROM) to
>run with DOS?
>
>
>Bob Aldrich
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Yes, it worked great -- got the newest version off Compuserve.
I seemed to hav caused it by moving several large directories from a: to
c:.

Phil Godden
Phil_Godden@bigfoot.com


>Phil-

>Did the suggestion (use STACK /F) work for you?  I had this =

>(write protect on a stacked drive) happen to me and I had to =

>resort to backups.  As I recall, it was caused by low batteries =

>during a big file i/o.

>Dennis Bell
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I've observed recently that my HP200LX has begun to lose time from time
to time - sometimes it is battery powered, sometimes it is plugged in to
the AC. I have checked the backup battery under Setup and it is OK. Any
idea what's happening? Thanks.

Ron

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I'm looking for a company in/around Sweden where I can upgrade my HP
from 2Mb to 8Mb.
Does anybody if thats possible to do in Sweden, or do I have to send my
HP to the states?

Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

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Currently, Buddy is reporting that I am getting >40 hours of battery life on my 4 MB 200LX
w/2 MB Ram card, using 1 pair of AA Energizer batteries.  This is over 20 days of usage.  I
only use my serial port once a week for backups and I use the AC adapter at that time.

This seems HIGH.

I only use my LX for 5 minutes at a time.  Is Buddy fairly accurate in recording usage hours
under these conditions?

When I was using a MP120, I had to change the batteries every ~10 hours, and that was using
4 batteries a hit.

If my 200LX is really getting 40 hours, I can't imagine anything else on the market with
this level of computing power coming close!
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mdstockr wrote:

> Currently, Buddy is reporting that I am getting >40 hours of battery life on my 4 MB
> 200LX
> w/2 MB Ram card, using 1 pair of AA Energizer batteries.  This is over 20 days of
> usage.  I
> only use my serial port once a week for backups and I use the AC adapter at that time.

Assuming your speed hasn't been doubled, and you don't really do any high-power things
such as use a modem, high-speed flash card, etc., that sounds about right.

> When I was using a MP120, I had to change the batteries every ~10 hours, and that was
> using
> 4 batteries a hit.

The MP120, of course, had a much higher-power-consuming processor...I would expect the
200LX to outlast it batterywise.

> If my 200LX is really getting 40 hours, I can't imagine anything else on the market with
>
> this level of computing power coming close!

Not really anything else that does come close.  Of course, your battery time goes down if
you double the speed, or use high-power cards, or do a lot of serial transfers.  But, it's
just the age-old tradeoff of battery life vs. performance.

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I think that HP really missed a true opportunity with the 200LX.

I doubt if anything on the market today, let alone when the 100LX first came out, comes
close to providing the true daily use functionality and utility of the 200LX!  And now, its
really too late for HP to do anything about it after investing in WinCE  :-(

--- On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 10:30:22 -0700  David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> wrote:

>Not really anything else that does come close.  Of course, your battery time goes down if
>you double the speed, or use high-power cards, or do a lot of serial transfers.  But, it's
>just the age-old tradeoff of battery life vs. performance.

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Trying to configure Buddy and maybe I have a brain blockage but if the
system boots on the autoexec.bat in rom, how do you modify it to be the
boot autoexec? Read the documentation and can't figure it out.

JR

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Copy the ROM config.sys and autoexec.bat files from D: to C:, or create your own.  DOS will
always look for autoexec.bat in the same drive as config.sys.  Also, DOS looks for
config.sys in C: before D:.

--- On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:39:28 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:

>Trying to configure Buddy and maybe I have a brain blockage but if the
>system boots on the autoexec.bat in rom, how do you modify it to be the
>boot autoexec? Read the documentation and can't figure it out.
>
>JR
>
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Is this agenda/diary application in a 300/320LX?

--- On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:40:10 PDT  Francois-Xavier Albouy <albouy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>I ould like to use the calendar of the built in diary for one of my
>prog. How can i do that?
>the aim is to have a project manager with days, month, week, without
>having to maka a calendar procedure (date generator).
>
>                thanks
>
>                                F.X.
>
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>-----------------------------------------------
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>from april 1998 to august 1998.
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mdstockr wrote:

> Copy the ROM config.sys and autoexec.bat files from D: to C:, or create your own.  DOS
> will
> always look for autoexec.bat in the same drive as config.sys.  Also, DOS looks for
> config.sys in C: before D:.

Yeah, and if you copy config.sys and autoexec.bat to the A: drive, you can boot up from
there, too.  Unfortunately, you can't boot another version of DOS, because it always loads
the pre-config.sys files from ROM.

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So then, the next obvious question is: Why not use the HP's own task
switching program? It seems to do the same thing. Doesn't it?

Bob

David N Sargeant wrote:
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> Bob Aldrich wrote:
>
> > And what does it do? What's wrong with using batch files and or the
> > filer program to launch programs? Is this some sort of substitute?
>
> No, Software Carousel is a task switching program.  With it, you can run
> several copies of the System Manager or DOS applications at once, each
> with its own environment.  It used to be used frequently for application
> switching on desktop machines, but nowadays, with Windows, nobody needs
> a DOS multitasker.  Except us palmtop users...
>
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John,

Ok, tell me where to get it done!

I'd love to be able to touch-type and see the screen in the dark.

Seems to me that the hardware might be different somehow and that for
that reason reprogramming the ROM wouldn't work.

Does anyone know the answer to this?

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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> Of course it a possibility, after all you just spent $700 for a palmtop
> that crashes without notice, is pretend windows and doesn't support
> anything. I'll pay another $99 for an improved edition! Maybe it will work
> this time!
>
> JR
>
> >To all those sharp cookies who didn't respond to this post:
> >> I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
> >> could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
> >
> >Is this a real possibility?
> >
> >How about it? Is this a possibility? Would an HP320LX reprogram (ROM) > to run with DOS?

> >Bob Aldrich
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mdstockr wrote:
>
> >Not really anything else that does come close.  Of course, your battery time goes down if
> >you double the speed, or use high-power cards, or do a lot of serial transfers.  But, it's
> >just the age-old tradeoff of battery life vs. performance.

If anyone is interested in long life batteries, here is a guy who claims
that a nuclear battery using non-lethal alpha radiation could be built
that would last TEN years. He has demonstrated the technology already,
and the technology has actually been around since the thirties. (just
suppressed)

He's at http://www.cyberportal.net/nuenergy/main.html

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Hello All,
        Speaking of diaries, is there a good diary program out there that works
well on the 200LX?

        Bob Aldrich
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Bob Aldrich wrote:

> So then, the next obvious question is: Why not use the HP's own task
> switching program? It seems to do the same thing. Doesn't it?

You mean the task switching that System Manager does?  The difference between that and
Software Carousel is, you can only have one DOS program open at once, and a DOS program
consumes most of your memory, leaving little left over for the built-in apps.  Software
Carousel actually creates up to twelve other areas that each act like a separate palmtop.
You press SHIFT-2, and switch to work area 2.  You can run the System Manager again, and
work on another database or phone book at the same time you have one open in area 1.  You
could run Derive, or Turbo C++, or any other DOS program that requires a lot of memory,
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Especially since it costs $575 for a new one at Frys Electronics with *no*
extras!


At 05:49 PM 8/14/97 -0400, Don Babcock wrote:
> I bought my 200LX on E-bay for $300 with a 10 Meg flash card, cable,
>nicads, charger, etc. I thought it was a good deal. AND the system is in
>good shape.
>I guess it just depends on the seller.
>
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gert Thomasen <Gert.Thomasen@ETSI.FR>
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>
>
>
>>Please note that some of the e-bay auction deals listed were with
>>reserve prices, and never real deals. I won two of them, the HP 200 to
>>215.02 and to 251.51 ($). But the first seller would not sell below 275
>>and the second one is not responding.
>>
>>Just to inform you that the prices on e-bay not always reflect actual
>>sales.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Gert Thomasen, France
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Bob Aldrich wrote:

> If anyone is interested in long life batteries, here is a guy who claims
> that a nuclear battery using non-lethal alpha radiation could be built
> that would last TEN years. He has demonstrated the technology already,
> and the technology has actually been around since the thirties. (just
> suppressed)

Sounds interesting.  Hopefully we'll have some prototype AA's soon.  :)

Speaking of batteries, on a side note, does anybody know when current battery size
standards came into being?  (IE, AAA, AA, C, D, etc.)  How long have you been able to go
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Bob Aldrich wrote:

> Hello All,
>         Speaking of diaries, is there a good diary program out there that works
> well on the 200LX?

I looked, and couldn't find one.  So now that's on my list of projects.Vivek Venugopalan
<vivek.venugopalan@USA.NET> is also working on it.  It's sort of a collaborative effort.
I'm not sure when it'll be ready.
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What's a diary program?  What features would it have?  Why would you need it?
You can make a customized database for keeping a diary with the built-in
database program.
.

At 01:14 PM 8/16/97 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:
>Bob Aldrich wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>         Speaking of diaries, is there a good diary program out there
that works
>> well on the 200LX?
>
>I looked, and couldn't find one.  So now that's on my list of
projects.Vivek Venugopalan
><vivek.venugopalan@USA.NET> is also working on it.  It's sort of a
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In a message dated 97-08-16 17:16:21 EDT, garzotto@ACTIVE.CH (Andreas
Garzotto) write:


 >      I used to own a 320 lx and I for one do not believe that they just
 >      "give" you a ROM. I do believe that you are going to pay through our
 >      nose. Just my opinion.

> I also would suspect that when you finally have your new ROM, the most
> urgent thing you want to have is then either another new ROM (which is
> supposed to fix all the bugs and deficiencies of your new ROM - this
> goes on in an endless selling loop) or you will urgently want to buy a
> new, more powerful machine that can keep up with the new memory and
> speed demands the new ROM will have.  Why should MS behave any more
> "customer friendly" in the PDA market than they do in the desktop market?
 All
> just my personal opinion.

i'm not given to "me to" but that is exactly correct, and its the reason no
200lx was in the "byte" magazine article.  once you get it right (as hp did
with the 200lx) you have nothing else to sell - except to a new customer.  if
hp were to magically add a 386 chip to our 200llx, what would you get?

the ability to use slightly newer out-of-print software, that's what!

programs like wordperfect 5.1, quatropro 5.0, and timeline 5.0 all run on the
current machine (and run quite nicely on my times2tech speed doubled one.)
 these let me do absolutely anything that i need to do.  i also have
commuinications packages, games, and the rest.  none of this has earned hp a
nickle, since the initial hp purchase price.  (and my wife's machine didn't
even earn them that, since it was a used unit.)

even the oft' lusted for bigger/better screen is an iffy thing.  how much
more often would i decide not to take my palmtop, if it were even 25% or 50%
bigger and heavier.  how much more often would i decide not to turn it on a
make a note, if i was worried about the much shorter battery life?

either i'm to easily pleased, or i'm too old to get excited by change for
changes sake. --  what ever the case, i've got what i like & i'm happy with
it as is.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Sounds good to me, I thought of this, but with the pressures of daily
life crunching in on me, thought no further. I have to be in a really
relaxed state of mind to do anything but just USE the LX. What sort of
keystrokes would you suggest to make a simple diary-entry format with
the Database? (just point me in the right direction, I'll get it)

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles

Philip Seyer wrote:
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> What's a diary program?  What features would it have?  Why would you need it?
> You can make a customized database for keeping a diary with the built-in
> database program.
> .
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Gee! I'll have to give it a try.

Bob

David Sargeant wrote:
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> Bob Aldrich wrote:
>
> > So then, the next obvious question is: Why not use the HP's own task
> > switching program? It seems to do the same thing. Doesn't it?
>
> You mean the task switching that System Manager does?  The difference between that and
> Software Carousel is, you can only have one DOS program open at once, and a DOS program
> consumes most of your memory, leaving little left over for the built-in apps.  Software
> Carousel actually creates up to twelve other areas that each act like a separate palmtop.
> You press SHIFT-2, and switch to work area 2.  You can run the System Manager again, and
> work on another database or phone book at the same time you have one open in area 1.  You
> could run Derive, or Turbo C++, or any other DOS program that requires a lot of memory,
> and switch back and forth between them.--
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That's the ticket, an atomic LX200 glowing on my hip...now that would
impress the 300-320 crowd.

Thanks, Bob.

JR

>mdstockr wrote:
>>
>> >Not really anything else that does come close.  Of course, your battery
time goes down if
>> >you double the speed, or use high-power cards, or do a lot of serial
transfers.  But, it's
>> >just the age-old tradeoff of battery life vs. performance.
>
>If anyone is interested in long life batteries, here is a guy who claims
>that a nuclear battery using non-lethal alpha radiation could be built
>that would last TEN years. He has demonstrated the technology already,
>and the technology has actually been around since the thirties. (just
>suppressed)
>
>He's at http://www.cyberportal.net/nuenergy/main.html
>
>Bob Aldrich
>Los Angeles
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Want-um 300-320 stuff, go to this address and put "subscribe-HPLX" body of
the message. You'll get all the help you may need. Also if you want
something that works better, stay here and get a LX200.

WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com

JR


>Is this agenda/diary application in a 300/320LX?
>
>--- On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:40:10 PDT  Francois-Xavier Albouy
<albouy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>>I ould like to use the calendar of the built in diary for one of my
>>prog. How can i do that?
>>the aim is to have a project manager with days, month, week, without
>>having to maka a calendar procedure (date generator).
>>
>>                thanks
>>
>>                                F.X.
>>
>>"The hardest thing to open is a closed mind..."
>>-----------------------------------------------
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>>ETS (Canada)
>>Studient in system engineering,
>>looking for a trainning prog.
>>from april 1998 to august 1998.
>>
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I know this proctologist that does it cheap for 300-320 owners!

JR

>John,
>
>Ok, tell me where to get it done!
>
>I'd love to be able to touch-type and see the screen in the dark.
>
>Seems to me that the hardware might be different somehow and that for
>that reason reprogramming the ROM wouldn't work.
>
>Does anyone know the answer to this?
>
>Bob Aldrich
>Los Angeles
>
>John Ramos wrote:
>>
>> Of course it a possibility, after all you just spent $700 for a palmtop
>> that crashes without notice, is pretend windows and doesn't support
>> anything. I'll pay another $99 for an improved edition! Maybe it will work
>> this time!
>>
>> JR
>>
>> >To all those sharp cookies who didn't respond to this post:
>> >> I would pay an extra $99.95 in addition to the list price if an HP320
>> >> could be "upgraded" to MS DOS.
>> >
>> >Is this a real possibility?
>> >
>> >How about it? Is this a possibility? Would an HP320LX reprogram (ROM) >
to run with DOS?
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Hi.
I have an Infotel 14.4 pocket modem with AC adapter.  Although the
previous owner stated it worked fine last time he used it, I have tried
everything to get it to work as a data modem to no avail.  However, it
does seem to work fine as a fax modem (I tried QFAX and it worked
fine.).  If anyone wants this for $5 plus shipping, drop me a line.

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> From dbabcock@PAGESZ.NET Sat Aug 16 02:08:25 1997
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I am currently building my home PC from individual  parts purchased from this
auction and I am saving a lot of money in the process.   I would recommend it as
a source of cheap ( but good )  equipment.   I only wished I had known about the
auction when I purchased my HP200LX.

All items that contain a reserve prive are indicated and all reserve price
auctions I have seen have the reserve price as their first bid, so it is usually
not possible to bid below a reserve.

If you have not tried the auction, and there is an item that interests you, try
it.   You will not be disappointed.

Cheers

Steve

>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> >Please note that some of the e-bay auction deals listed were with
> >reserve prices, and never real deals. I won two of them, the HP 200 to
> >215.02 and to 251.51 ($). But the first seller would not sell below 275
> >and the second one is not responding.
> >
> >Just to inform you that the prices on e-bay not always reflect actual
> >sales.
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> >Best regards,
> >Gert Thomasen, France
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Does anyone know what Intellilink is? Not Intellisync by Puma.

JR

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JR wrote:

>>That's the ticket, an atomic LX200 glowing on my hip...now that would
>>impress the 300-320 crowd.

yes, but will it give us a credible first strike capability?

cordially,

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I noticed a peculiar problem with my 200 LX.  Screen contrast goes down
when it is plugged into the adapter and charging batteries.  After a while,
it becomes virtually impossible to read the screen.

When unplugged, it goes back to normal, gradually, over the next 10-15
minutes.

Does anyone have an idea of what is going on.  My computer is still under
warranty.  It seems I may have to exercise it (warranty).

Mikhail

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> I've observed recently that my HP200LX has begun to lose time from time
> to time - sometimes it is battery powered, sometimes it is plugged in to
> the AC. I have checked the backup battery under Setup and it is OK. Any
> idea what's happening? Thanks.

Suppose it can be due to usage of infrared remote control.

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
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On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> I noticed a peculiar problem with my 200 LX.  Screen contrast goes down
> when it is plugged into the adapter and charging batteries.  After a while,
> it becomes virtually impossible to read the screen.
>
> When unplugged, it goes back to normal, gradually, over the next 10-15
> minutes.
>
> Does anyone have an idea of what is going on.  My computer is still under
> warranty.  It seems I may have to exercise it (warranty).

This seems to be a common (maybe normal?) thing for all 200lx's.  I seem
to remember some people saying theirs get dark while others (including
me) have screens that get light during recharging.

I think the discussion went that the heat generated from the recharging
affects the circuitry for the display (that's in the same area).

Most of us are able to compensate with On-(+) to darken, or On-(-) to
lighten.

If you can't adjust the contrast to be readable during recharge, then I
agree that I would send it back to HP. Not being able to use it for 6
hours on a regular basis is NOT acceptable.

- Longden

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<<Does anyone know what Intellilink is? Not Intellisync by Puma.>>

Intellilink was purchased by Puma and then became Intellisynch.

     Carl

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Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:
>
> I noticed a peculiar problem with my 200 LX.  Screen contrast goes down
> when it is plugged into the adapter and charging batteries.  After a while,
> it becomes virtually impossible to read the screen.
>
> When unplugged, it goes back to normal, gradually, over the next 10-15
> minutes.
>
> Does anyone have an idea of what is going on.  My computer is still under
> warranty.  It seems I may have to exercise it (warranty).
>
> Mikhail
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I believe that the 200LX has a built-in temperature sensor to compensate
for changes in operating conditions.  The charger seems to generate a
little heat which causes the display to change.  I don't think there is
anything wrong with your machine.  I ususally have to adjust the
contrast during charging.

Jim Smith

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It's been nearly a year and a half since I had time to do anything
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It's been nearly a year and a half since I had time to do anything
with HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible.  This weekend I finally had a couple
of spare hours, and I made the following minor changes:

1.  Removed the registration requirement to access all features.
Although my family and I would still appreciate receiving postcards
(we've received hundreds from all over the world!), the workload has
become too great for me to supply individual registration numbers.

2.  I added the capability to restrict word searches to a specific
range of verses.

3.  I documented a couple of hidden features that have been in
HisWord all along, but were never in the .doc file (A "reading"
bookmark, and an optional memory remaining display).

I hope that by offloading some of the workload of processing
registrations, etc, it will enable me to work on some of the
"todo" list items.

Please feel free to download the newest version from the webpage in
my sig, or drop me an email if you have any suggestions for
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Is anybody using Concentric as an ISP? They are supposed to be a
nationwide internet provider. A Shell account is included in the $19.95
monthly rate. They have "pine" and "elm" for mail. This seems a simple
way, using a comm programm on the 200LX to get mail as I travel - or to
use a modem, cable and cellular phone.

Thanks,
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        I looked at the responses, with the primary one being "fiddle with
the contrast: this is normal." I have noticed an alternative. With third
party software - I use BCC - it is possible to get the HP to charge at
"trickle" much earlier. The lower heat generated charging at "trickle" does
NOT affect the screen contrast. You have a usable machine during the
recharge without having to fiddle with the screen contrast.

        Of course, this is at the expense of having a LONGER recharge.
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At 12:44 16/08/97 -0700, you wrote:
>John,
>
>Ok, tell me where to get it done!
>
>I'd love to be able to touch-type and see the screen in the dark.
>
>Seems to me that the hardware might be different somehow and that for
>that reason reprogramming the ROM wouldn't work.
>
>Does anyone know the answer to this?

The WinCE machines don't use a 80x86 processor. Most of them use the SH3
processor by Hitachi. Since DOS is closely tied to the 80x86 architecture,
a port to a new processor would really be a big headache, since all low
level assembly routines would have to be rewritten.

But even in case somebody is mad enough as to do this port, no program
designed for DOS would work under this new DOS without recompiling (since
the processor instructions are not the same). So, I guess it's not worth,
since the main reason to get DOS working on a WinCE machine would be to use
existing software.

Regards. Nacho.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Mike Kilpatrick wrote:
> Is anybody using Concentric as an ISP? They are supposed to be a
> nationwide internet provider. A Shell account is included in the $19.95
> monthly rate. They have "pine" and "elm" for mail. This seems a simple
> way, using a comm programm on the 200LX to get mail as I travel - or to
> use a modem, cable and cellular phone.

I do exactly that.  I've used them for about a year.  they used to have a
lot of problems, but now I connect at 28.8 solid every time.  Occasionally
I get dropped off for no apparent reason.  Teck support is OK, news goes
down a little too frequently..

But yes, I do all my mail in pine.  That way if I'm at work, at my
parent's house in New York, at a conference in LA, or in the recovery
room after my daughter was born, I have access to all my address books (i
even wrote a perl program to convert my company's email list to a pine
mailing list every time it is updated), saved mail, and newsgroups.  Works
great.

Don't forget the web page and ftp access.  Only things missing (if you're
a unixhead like me) are emacs, perl, bash, and procmail.  They have a few
dozen CGI scripts you can use that should suit your needs.  One way I've
found to get around the no perl problem- awk is a programming language,
too!.

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That sounds great.. I'll beta test it for you..
        Bob

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Bob Aldrich wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >         Speaking of diaries, is there a good diary program out there that works
> > well on the 200LX?
>
> I looked, and couldn't find one.  So now that's on my list of projects.Vivek Venugopalan
> <vivek.venugopalan@USA.NET> is also working on it.  It's sort of a collaborative effort.
> I'm not sure when it'll be ready.
> --
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Oh, well!  Maybe we could just solder in an HP200LX motherboard as an
option to the 320LX!=20

Bob

Ignacio Garc=F5a P=F4rez wrote:
>=20
> At 12:44 16/08/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >Ok, tell me where to get it done!
> >
> >I'd love to be able to touch-type and see the screen in the dark.
> >
> >Seems to me that the hardware might be different somehow and that for
> >that reason reprogramming the ROM wouldn't work.
> >
> >Does anyone know the answer to this?
>=20
> The WinCE machines don't use a 80x86 processor. Most of them use the SH=
3
> processor by Hitachi. Since DOS is closely tied to the 80x86 architectu=
re,
> a port to a new processor would really be a big headache, since all low
> level assembly routines would have to be rewritten.
>=20
> But even in case somebody is mad enough as to do this port, no program
> designed for DOS would work under this new DOS without recompiling (sin=
ce
> the processor instructions are not the same). So, I guess it's not wort=
h,
> since the main reason to get DOS working on a WinCE machine would be to=
 use
> existing software.
>=20
> Regards. Nacho.

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The real thing is that HP is still making the LX200 to this day. Will they
be making th CE units in 3 years? Not even! I personally think the Lebretto
type paltops will come down in price to the point where it's not a question.

JR

>JR wrote:
>
>>>That's the ticket, an atomic LX200 glowing on my hip...now that would
>>>impress the 300-320 crowd.
>
>yes, but will it give us a credible first strike capability?
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
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Problem: Reading the stacked volume from my HP200LX on
my new laptop computer.
Yes, I lost the setup instructions that came with Ace's
card.
Here is what I did...inserted the card, allowed Win95 to
wizard the setup, inserted, when prompted, Ace's Program
Disk,
Version 2.01. This installation ran fine.
Then, when I mounted the PCMCIA card, noticed all my info
was in a stacked volume: stacvol.ace.
Anyone out there have Ace's installion instructions for
loading
their software on a PC?
Thanks to all for reading this rambling message
Mike

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HPLX200, 2MB

Challenge: Printing just today's ToDo list
without the carry forward's and uncompleted.

Oh sure...I could decline the carry forward
option when adding a new ToDo...but that
would be too easy.

Suggestions?
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->The real thing is that HP is still making the LX200 to this day. Will
->they be making th CE units in 3 years? Not even! I personally think the
->Lebretto type paltops will come down in price to the point where it's
->not a question.
->JR

I think we are all fooling ourselves.  HP may be making LX200s, but they
are keeping it a secret.  I have not found them in any store.  Even
mailorder catalogs do not mention the LX200.  You have to know you want a
200 and look for it specifically usually from mailorder houses because it
is impossible to buy them from Office Depot, Staples, CompUSA,
MicroCenter, etc.

Sounds to me like they are making them for whoever specifically asks for
them but they sure are not publicising their existence and are letting it
die.  What a bunch of dummies.

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<<The real thing is that HP is still making the LX200 to this day. Will
they
be making th CE units in 3 years? Not even! I personally think the Lebret=
to
type paltops will come down in price to the point where it's not a
question.>>

This is incredibly important -- and a frequently overlooked point that
makes the 200LX so useful. Like the HP12C, I expect it to have a long, lo=
ng
life with little modification to the core usefulness. It will also contin=
ue
to come down in price, but still hold its value reasonably well. It is
unique in the computing world -- it is as useful today, as it was when
first released -- and marches to a different drummer than standard
computing products which require bloated upgrades every year or two. The =
CE
machines, REQUIRE a Win95 or NT machine to be useful, whereas the 200LX
doesn't need anything else to be useful.

     Carl

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<<Sounds to me like they are making them for whoever specifically asks fo=
r
them but they sure are not publicising their existence and are letting it=

die.>>

IMHO this is true in many respects. Many small vendors nearly died this
year because they couldn't get 200LX's that ran out of stock because HP
filled a huge corporate order and then ran production for the CE units.
Supposedly that problem is over though. The 200LX has found its way into
many commercial and industrial applications and I expect that is where it=

will stay except for the few of us who will sell to consumers. The
commercial market should keep it alive for a long time to come.

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John Ramos wrote:
>
> If anybody wants one, I have 2 to sell, a 1 meg...$200, a 2 meg for $250
> both with books and in excellent condition! LX200 that is. NO BIDDING, I'm
> here! I answer the phone, I have them, I can ship them COD. I have a 4 meg
> and love it! These can be bastardized to Pentium 266's if you like. I'd
> love to see one! PC in your Pocket!
>
> JR
>
> At 04:32 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >Has anyone here done business with Calculator World?  They're a
> >mail-order dealer in Bethel, PA that advertises in the Palmtop Paper.
> >Dejanews revealed only one mention of them (neutral), in connection
> >with the purchase of a 200LX.  I'm familiar with NSW and Educalc, but
> >both are out of stock on the item I seek and poor at handling
> >backorders.
> >
> >                                -Jim.
> >

Hi John,

I'm interested in one of your palmtops. Please advice how to handle
this deal and how we proceed.

Kindly regards

Uli

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Where did you get @@@/LX post plus?


At 06:43 PM 8/13/97 -0400, Ian Melville wrote:
>Hi group.
>
>This was one of the few tidbits from comp.sys.palmtops that seemed to good
>to pass up so I decided to share it with you. Please forgive my over
>enthusiasm at hearing affirmations on the 200LX.... :-)
>
>----- forwarded message -----
>
>From: Phillip Nichols <brashith@gatecom.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
>Subject: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software
>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 08:56:20
>X-Mailer: NEWS/LX  Version 1.00, 1997.05.26
>
>I just upgraded my 1MB 200lx to a 2MB.
>I prefer this upgrade to a CE palmtop.
>Especially since I bought WWW/LX post plus.
>
>I can read mail and newsgroups on or offline...
>browse the web online with inline gifs and tables.
>Or set an appointment to download an HTML NewYorkTimes
>in the morning as well as a GIF weathermap etc
>everymorning before I get up, automatically.
>
>I was impressed by the web browsing online.
>The internet capabilites of the CE versions
>were what got my attention until I tried
>WWW/lx.   Instead, i can take the money i was
>going to use for a ce and buy an 170MB HD for it.
>
>----- end of forwarded message -----
>
>Regards,
>
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A friend of mine bought the HP 320 unit
saying "the future is calling."  I was leaning toward the 200LX.

I kept thinking: do I really want to buy an older, outdated machine?
Finally, I gathered up my
courage and bought the 200L, anyway.   I'm glad I did.  Now whenever I have
a free moment
I can pull it out and:

    - Program in Prolog (a 5th generation language)
    - Do musical ear training (to improve my ability to identify melodic
intervals)
      composing and improvising ability)
    - Study Japanese -- I'm learning the Japanese writing systems:
katakana and hiragana.
    - Turn my palmtop sideways and  read novels, email, and other text
documents in
        an easy-to-read, narrow column of text.
    - Learn to play IGO (a Japanese game similar to chess)
    - Develop software agents using EasyShare.
    - Learn and use the AWK programming language.

The list goes on!  I'm constantly finding new programs I can run
on my 200LX.

None of this would be possible with the 320 LX!

At 11:45 PM 8/17/97 -0400, Carl Merkle wrote:
><<Sounds to me like they are making them for whoever specifically asks for
>them but they sure are not publicising their existence and are letting it
>die.>>
>
>IMHO this is true in many respects. Many small vendors nearly died this
>year because they couldn't get 200LX's that ran out of stock because HP
>filled a huge corporate order and then ran production for the CE units.
>Supposedly that problem is over though. The 200LX has found its way into
>many commercial and industrial applications and I expect that is where it
>will stay except for the few of us who will sell to consumers. The
>commercial market should keep it alive for a long time to come.
>
>     Carl Merkle
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I've written a program, EUDO2ZIP, that reads a Eudora Lite (and probably
Pro) mailbox, and generates zip files containing the individual messages
(so I can use PKUNZIP to browse/delete/etc on my 200lx).  Optionally it can
scan for LISTSERV digest internal headers and split  the individual
messages up.  I won't take up any more bandwidth here, but it is available
as freeware on my web page http://www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html.  If
you try it, I'm interested in feedback, pro or con.
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Subject:      Re: Upgrade

> I'm looking for a company in/around Sweden where I can upgrade my HP
> from 2Mb to 8Mb.
> Does anybody if thats possible to do in Sweden, or do I have to send my
> HP to the states?

You can ask

 Rundel Datentechnik
 Dipl.-Inform. Thomas Rundel
 Rappenstr. 20
 73033 Goeppingen
 Germany
 Phone:     +49-7161-14707
 Fax:       +49-7161-24473
 Cellphone: +49-172-7326211
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they offer the  4 MB and Speed-Upgrade in Europe, I don't know if they
already have the 8MB upgrade.

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        Hello - yesterday I accidently sat down on my 4 year old HP100LX
and snapped the LCD.  I was in church, and I had to stifle a loud cry
when I opened the cover and saw the black morass which used to be my
palmtop screen.  Can I get it fixed?  How much would it cost?  How much
could I buy a used one for?  Should I downgrade to a 320 or palm pilot?

        Any thoughts would be appreciated.

        Brandon

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The 200lx has a built in calendar I would like to use the date data
to make a planning software for my Projects. I would also like to see on
the planning the meetings i've got and dates...

It would look something like that:

# |Task name |  1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |<-Days
1 |  study   |************|   |   |
2 | developp.|    |   |***********|

etc...

To have the days i need the data of the built in diary/calendar.

PS: REMEMBER IT'S FOR THE 200LX.



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Where do you purchase WWWLX ?  Found the info on the product but no price or
where to order.

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At 07:27 AM 8/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>        Hello - yesterday I accidently sat down on my 4 year old HP100LX
>and snapped the LCD.  I was in church, and I had to stifle a loud cry
>when I opened the cover and saw the black morass which used to be my
>palmtop screen.  Can I get it fixed?  How much would it cost?  How much
>could I buy a used one for?  Should I downgrade to a 320 or palm pilot?

DON"T buy a 320 or palm pilot!  Been there, done that.  Then CAME back to
the HP200.
You can pick up a used 200LX/2meg for around $250 with some accessories.
Everything you have on your 100 will work on the 200.  You can transfer
everything ove to a 200 blindly even if the screen is damaged.  Done that too.

Goos Luck.

Mark

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Brandon - I sympathize, but just think how many Pilots you would have
already destroyed!  On the other hand the hp320 won't fit in your back
pocket so it would last longer.  In fact it'll be collecting dust on the
shelf or it'll be tucked away in your briefcase.

From all I read it's going to cost a lot to get it fixed, so you'll have
to swallow hard AND BUY ANOTHER hp100 or 200lx.  Perhaps you can get
more memory - and go for a 200 instead of a 100!  God moves in
mysterious ways!

Being more practical, the most cost-effective answer is a second-hand
machine. comp.sys.palmtops is full of them (that's all you find there
about the hp100/200lx - all the normal newsgroup traffic having moved to
this mailing list!)

Good luck
Jez

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Author:  HPLX-L at SMTP/dd.RFC-822=HPLX-L@UCONNVM\.UCONN\.EDU Date:
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Hello - yesterday I accidently sat down on my 4 year old HP100LX
and snapped the LCD.  I was in church, and I had to stifle a loud cry
when I opened the cover and saw the black morass which used to be my
palmtop screen.  Can I get it fixed?  How much would it cost?  How much
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Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Brandon

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Comments: To: TeresaJ53@AOL.COM

     Where do you get a copy of www/lx for free even an old version?


     Thanks Yehuda.



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Where do you purchase WWWLX ?  Found the info on the product but no price or
where to order.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, David Kramer wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Mike Kilpatrick wrote:
> > Is anybody using Concentric as an ISP? They are supposed to be a
> > nationwide internet provider. A Shell account is included in the $19.95
> > monthly rate. They have "pine" and "elm" for mail. This seems a simple
> > way, using a comm programm on the 200LX to get mail as I travel - or to
> > use a modem, cable and cellular phone.
>
> I do exactly that.  I've used them for about a year.  they used to have a
> lot of problems, but now I connect at 28.8 solid every time.  Occasionally
> I get dropped off for no apparent reason.  Teck support is OK, news goes
> down a little too frequently..

Do you have a list of local access phone numbers for Concentric's dial-in?

I'm on the move (like you), but several of my calls are from smaller
cities that get some coverage from my current ISP, ATT WorldNet. I would
like the shell access (and Pine/Elm), but I'd like to make sure I'm not
going to get reamed by the phone company.

- Longden

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I just had a great experience with Shier Systems. They actually had IN
STOCK everything I needed to recommit to my 200lx (after a bad 3-day
320lx experience). WWW/LX and Software Carousel (for the earlier
question regarding that).

They are at www.shier.com or 805-371-9391.

-joe



Teresa Jackson wrote:

> Where do you purchase WWWLX ?  Found the info on the product but no
> price or
> where to order.
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On Mon, 18 Aug 1997, Longden C. Loo wrote:
> > > Is anybody using Concentric as an ISP? They are supposed to be a
> > > nationwide internet provider. A Shell account is included in the $19.95
> > > monthly rate. They have "pine" and "elm" for mail. This seems a simple
> > > way, using a comm programm on the 200LX to get mail as I travel - or to
> > > use a modem, cable and cellular phone.
> > I do exactly that.  I've used them for about a year.  they used to have a
> > lot of problems, but now I connect at 28.8 solid every time.  Occasionally
> > I get dropped off for no apparent reason.  Teck support is OK, news goes
> > down a little too frequently..
>
> Do you have a list of local access phone numbers for Concentric's dial-in?

http://www.concentric.net/individual/dialup/dial_access.html


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Publicity! That's what the LX needs. Now if one of you can just figure a
way to make a headline grabbing event (on the positive side...please) with
the LX, the rest of us would be just SO grateful <g>.

OTOH, Jeff Goldblum saved the world with an Apple Powerbook and alot of
good it did for Apple. Likewise, an F-20 Tigershark was used to shoot down
an alien spaceship (abeit a friendly one in the movie "Starman), and
Northrop was still unable to sell any of those jets.

MAYBE HP is hushed about the LX EXCEPT to their own employees....promoting
CE to their rivals, as part of a strategic plan to gain a competitive
advantage. How diabolically clever that would be! <G>.

- Longden

On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Jeff Malka wrote:
> I think we are all fooling ourselves.  HP may be making LX200s, but they
> are keeping it a secret.  I have not found them in any store.  Even
> mailorder catalogs do not mention the LX200.  You have to know you want a
> 200 and look for it specifically usually from mailorder houses because it
> is impossible to buy them from Office Depot, Staples, CompUSA,
> MicroCenter, etc.
>
> Sounds to me like they are making them for whoever specifically asks for
> them but they sure are not publicising their existence and are letting it
> die.  What a bunch of dummies.

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I'm using the hp200lx since 2 month and up to now only connect it to the PC. So I am not familiar with any link or data com s/w.
Is it possible to dial a telefon number in tone mode, so one can use the 200LX as a automatic dialing tool (for instance from the address register) ? I did not find any hints in my manual !

Regards

Frax

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On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Carl Merkle wrote:
> This is incredibly important -- and a frequently overlooked point that
> makes the 200LX so useful. Like the HP12C, I expect it to have a long, long
> life with little modification to the core usefulness. It will also continue

At least till 2011 when the Appt app begins to fail.

> to come down in price, but still hold its value reasonably well. It is
> unique in the computing world -- it is as useful today, as it was when
> first released -- and marches to a different drummer than standard
> computing products which require bloated upgrades every year or two. The CE
> machines, REQUIRE a Win95 or NT machine to be useful, whereas the 200LX
> doesn't need anything else to be useful.

Kind of like the Volkswagon beetle of the computer world, yes? I guess the
HP stands for "Herbie Palmtop" (for movie fans).

Enjoy it while you can (for the next 13 years), and hope that by then,
(when CE has maybe made it to XZ), there'll finally be something better.

- Longden

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Dropped my 100lx getting out of the car this morning, need the ribbon cable
joining the 2 halves together.  Screen is ok.

I'll buy yours, you buy mine, mail me directly...

(and I agree with the others, nothing quite comes close to the
100/200 LX....)

/mark
mfraser@helix.net
or if you wish, phone 604 872 6676

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>The WinCE machines don't use a 80x86 processor. Most of them use the SH3
>processor by Hitachi. Since DOS is closely tied to the 80x86 architecture,
>a port to a new processor would really be a big headache, since all low
>level assembly routines would have to be rewritten.
>

I recently saw a freeware (I think) version of dos called FreeDOS that is
written in 'C'.  That might be portable enough
for the job but if we can burn a ROM for the HP, I think the effort must be
spent on porting linux for the 320lx since it is a better operating system
(true multitasking for one)

>But even in case somebody is mad enough as to do this port, no program
>designed for DOS would work under this new DOS without recompiling (since
>the processor instructions are not the same). So, I guess it's not worth,
>since the main reason to get DOS working on a WinCE machine would be to use
>existing software.
>

This is a different problem altogether.  To run existing programs, a DOS
emulator has to be developed which runs on CE

Vivek

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> Date          Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:31:42 -0400
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> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Where do you purchase WWWLX ?  Found the info on the product but no=
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> where to order.
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Try this site:

http://www.shier.com/Www.html

regards

Frank


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Tom,

I just wanted to give you a whole hearted thanks for your work.  I
happened to buy a 8mb Flash card from Sears yesterday(btw, it was
$139!).  I downloaded hisword.zip, av.zip, and cxref this morning and
got it working on my 200lx.  It is great.  I have been wanting it for
a while, but I just didn't have the space on my 2MB machine.
Your work is really appreciated by a bunch of folks, me included!

Thanks,

Doug

P.S.  You will get my postcard soon!



Tom Hoover writes:
 > It's been nearly a year and a half since I had time to do anything
 > with HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible.  This weekend I finally had a couple
 > of spare hours, and I made the following minor changes:
 >
 > 1.  Removed the registration requirement to access all features.
 > Although my family and I would still appreciate receiving postcards
 > (we've received hundreds from all over the world!), the workload has
 > become too great for me to supply individual registration numbers.
 >
 > 2.  I added the capability to restrict word searches to a specific
 > range of verses.
 >
 > 3.  I documented a couple of hidden features that have been in
 > HisWord all along, but were never in the .doc file (A "reading"
 > bookmark, and an optional memory remaining display).
 >
 > I hope that by offloading some of the workload of processing
 > registrations, etc, it will enable me to work on some of the
 > "todo" list items.
 >
 > I also hope to work up a FAQ in the next week or so, which should
 > reduce my time answering some of the more commonly asked quesions.
 >
 > If you wish to be removed from this mailing list, or are receiving
 > duplicate msgs due to my having more than one email address for you,
 > please drop me a note with your desired change(s).
 >
 > Please feel free to download the newest version from the webpage in
 > my sig, or drop me an email if you have any suggestions for
 > improvements to the program, docs, etc.
 > ---
 > Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
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When you merge 2 phone files, do you have to run Garlic and when is garlic
used. There were no docs with the galic I downloaded.

JR

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Hi,

I'm pretty new to the 200LX, but have already figured out a bunch via the
great faq that exists - including how to have the filer lauch dos
applications based on the file suffix.  Unfortunately, it doesn't say
anything about launching the hp applications from the filer.  Anyone
know how to do this?  Specifically I'm trying to launch 1-2-3 with
*.wk1 files.

A similar question: How can I launch the built-in apps from dos?

Thanks,
Rudy

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Does anyone know how to have more than one category be the "category"
field type? Whenever I construct a new database in the HP200LX, it won't
let me have more than one field as a "category" field type (it is greyed
out after making one field this type). Yet, the built in restaurant
database does have multiple "category" fields.

Am I missing something pretty obvious?
--
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Text of message from orn@CS.WISC.EDU, 18 Aug 1997, 01:29 PM
> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty new to the 200LX, but have already figured out a bunch via
> the great faq that exists - including how to have the filer lauch dos
> applications based on the file suffix.  Unfortunately, it doesn't say
> anything about launching the hp applications from the filer.  Anyone
> know how to do this?  Specifically I'm trying to launch 1-2-3 with *.wk1
> files.
>
> A similar question: How can I launch the built-in apps from dos?

Check out PNS200 and KS, both on the SUPER site.

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>out after making one field this type). Yet, the built in restaurant
>database does have multiple "category" fields.

The stock restaurant database only has one category field (these fields have
a little, black up/down arrow next to them). The database app is limited to
one of this type of field and to one of the Note type of field. You have not
missed a thing. :)

Mitch

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>Check out PNS200 and KS, both on the SUPER site.

This can't be done without KS. You can get by without PNS200, but you would
not want to. A line for the PNS200.INI to launch Lotus files looks like this:

6=c:\bin\ks.com \&\mfr\e\e\e%k/\Z

Mitch

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I use the category to help me type in certain info.  After you have
created the database and you are adding records  just type into the
"category" field what you want.  When adding the next record hit the
down arrow and select what you want in that field.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell B. Hamm ÝSMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 1997 1:54 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Database Fields
>
> >out after making one field this type). Yet, the built in restaurant
> >database does have multiple "category" fields.
>
> The stock restaurant database only has one category field (these
> fields have
> a little, black up/down arrow next to them). The database app is
> limited to
> one of this type of field and to one of the Note type of field. You
> have not
> missed a thing. :)
>
> Mitch
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I use the new version of WWW/LX with Post/LX for ALL of my E-mail and Newsgroup activities. I also use the Web Browser part of this fine product to travel the Internet, write and update my web site. I travel a lot and changing access numbers for my ISP is very easy. There is a learning curve involved but it is an excellent product. I especially like the feature of reading and writing e-mail off-line. This means that every morning I press a button (pardon the lack of technical jargon) and come back later. My e-mail has been sent, received and phone line disconnected.
Sources:
D&A Software: 818 341-1188
Educalc: 800 385-9376
Shier Systemms: 805 371-9391
Cost $109.00
The hardest part "might be" the settings for your own ISP (Internet Service Provider). If there is no script already provided for your ISP in WWW/LX, you may need to write one. I want to compliment D&A customer support for helping me with this task.
In conclusion: I highly recommend WWW/LX with Post/LX. I use it for ALL my e-mail and Newsgroup activity. I am sending this note with my HP200LX.

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I tried out a friend's newly-purchased 320LX last week.  I'm glad I had a
chance to try one of these WinCE machines because it has strengthened my
appreciation for my little HP100LX.  The 320LX's screen had poor contrast
and most of the processor's time seemed to be taken up by the GUI...the
PocketWord application wasn't even able to keep up with my typing speed.
Worst of all, the WinCE machines are not true pocket computers.  They're
just too big to comfortably slip into my pocket or equipment bag.
Requiring a Win95 box to load software onto them is also a real limitation
(my buddy has a 286 desktop and the 320LX).  Having said that, I do wish my
100LX had a few of the 320LX's features:

1. Pen input (for quickly jotting down notes or diagrams).
2. Back-lit screen.
3. More than one PCMCIA slot (I know, I know, the 320LX only has one PCMCIA
slot
   but it also has a Compact Flash slot as well).

BTW, I used my LX's spreadsheet app to calculate lists of target times for
an offroad rally I was in yesterday.  We didn't place very well because I
nearly flipped my Jeep over when I drove off the road and wasted valuable
time winching back onto the trail BUT the LX made it much less stressful
for determining how our timing was coming along.  By the end of the day,
everything, including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed the LX
last night and today it's back to its regular function as my phonebook,
scheduler, and work-related information repository.  Such a versatile piece
of equipment!  My brother, who was navigating for me, is already talking
about building a serial input box from the speedometer's pulse counter so
we can write a rally calculator which reads the vehicle's speed directly
and can be calibrated for any tire size we happen to be running.

...lars (will probably wrap it in a zip-loc bag for the
         next rally)

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I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request.

Mikhail

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>From what I understand, these are great modems (intend to snag one) but a
call to Apex elicited the unfortunate news that they DON'T work with
cellular on the 200LX. Why, I don't know, and it'd be good to confirm the
truth of this one way or the other...
wally

>Apex Data has 33.6 PCMCIA modems for "landline and analog cellular" use
>with are said to work in the HP 200LX. Look at their website at:
>
>        http://www.apexdata.com/DataFaxMenu.html
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If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable and
would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
speedometer.

Stephen Souza
LAN Administration
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: larry soo ÝSMTP:lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 1997 2:51 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Ramblings
>
> BTW, I used my LX's spreadsheet app to calculate lists of target times
> for
> an offroad rally I was in yesterday.  We didn't place very well
> because I
> nearly flipped my Jeep over when I drove off the road and wasted
> valuable
> time winching back onto the trail BUT the LX made it much less
> stressful
> for determining how our timing was coming along.  By the end of the
> day,
> everything, including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed
> the LX
> last night and today it's back to its regular function as my
> phonebook,
> scheduler, and work-related information repository.  Such a versatile
> piece
> of equipment!  My brother, who was navigating for me, is already
> talking
> about building a serial input box from the speedometer's pulse counter
> so
> we can write a rally calculator which reads the vehicle's speed
> directly
> and can be calibrated for any tire size we happen to be running.
>
>

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Has anyone tried Ricochet modems on the LX200? Another one to try is the
Motorola wireless modem although I hear they are expensive to run.

JR

>>From what I understand, these are great modems (intend to snag one) but a
>call to Apex elicited the unfortunate news that they DON'T work with
>cellular on the 200LX. Why, I don't know, and it'd be good to confirm the
>truth of this one way or the other...
>wally
>
>>Apex Data has 33.6 PCMCIA modems for "landline and analog cellular" use
>>with are said to work in the HP 200LX. Look at their website at:
>>
>>        http://www.apexdata.com/DataFaxMenu.html
>>
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Got any Navy surplus units?

JR

>If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
>report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable and
>would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
>speedometer.
>
>Stephen Souza
>LAN Administration
>757-322-3204
>mailto:ssouza@exchg.cnsl.spear.navy.mil
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: larry soo ÝSMTP:lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET¨
>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 1997 2:51 PM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Ramblings
>>
>> BTW, I used my LX's spreadsheet app to calculate lists of target times
>> for
>> an offroad rally I was in yesterday.  We didn't place very well
>> because I
>> nearly flipped my Jeep over when I drove off the road and wasted
>> valuable
>> time winching back onto the trail BUT the LX made it much less
>> stressful
>> for determining how our timing was coming along.  By the end of the
>> day,
>> everything, including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed
>> the LX
>> last night and today it's back to its regular function as my
>> phonebook,
>> scheduler, and work-related information repository.  Such a versatile
>> piece
>> of equipment!  My brother, who was navigating for me, is already
>> talking
>> about building a serial input box from the speedometer's pulse counter
>> so
>> we can write a rally calculator which reads the vehicle's speed
>> directly
>> and can be calibrated for any tire size we happen to be running.
>>
>>
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DATABASES
I would like to know if anyone has experience with large phone or appt
databases on the 200lx
Specifically, my database files are growing larger than 50k and I'm
wondering if there's
some kind of maximum size at which point the apps suffer severe speed
degredation.

On a related note... My databases have corrupted several times and I've
corrected the
problems with GARLIC for the most part, but some corruption appears to
exist.  On occasion
I'll see random characters in an appt, or addrs.  Is there some way I
could perhaps export and
then re-import the file to clean it up?

x2 UPGRADE
Has anyone had negative experience at all in upgrading the speed of
their 200LX ??
I'm also questioning how worthwhile it is to upgrade the internal memory
considering
that I could probably get PC card memory much cheaper...

PC card prices...
So, where does a person find the best deals these days on PC cards???

Thank you! (in advance)
Marshall

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Gang,

Good news/bad news.  While this might get your batteries recharged without all
the heat, this will probably shorten the ni-cad battery life.  Starting a
recharge before fully discharging the ni-cads will cause the capacity to drop
(memory effect).  Not as convenient, but a better way would be to have an
external charger and do it outside the hp.  Personally, I have been using
alkalines so it's just an observation from the boatload of other stuff I have
that use ni-cads.

Ed in Houston.


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Sent:   Sunday, August 17, 1997 5:32 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Screen contrast depends on the battery status

        I looked at the responses, with the primary one being "fiddle with
the contrast: this is normal." I have noticed an alternative. With third
party software - I use BCC - it is possible to get the HP to charge at
"trickle" much earlier.
Ý¨  snip

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> has anyone found a portable cd player with pcmcia interface

Try this combination:

TRANS PC card (PC-card parallel interface)
http://www.port-home.com/transpc
CD-ROM for parallel interface.

It works on an XT notebook, so it should workon HP 200.

JS

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Does anybody have hints how to write and ASM code to get
an EXM result? (I have some games I write in ASM some time
ago. I might try to convert these to EXM if I get a hint)

Jan
(BASIC and ASM are the only languages that I have mastered
besides the mother tongue)

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> Perhaps because I am new to the mailing list, I have not heard of
> POST/LX. Is it by the people who make WWW/LX? (D&A?)

I bought the WWW/LX from official dealer in Germany. I gave him
all my data phone/fax/email/address. However I did not get any
advice about POST/LX coming out. Later I found someone to mention
it in this list.  I found that it is in fact an upgrade for my WWW/LX.

But:
1. Why did not D&A inform me about the upgrade?
2. Why is there just a rather vague info on their WWW site?
3. Why are there NO SCREEN SHOTS of the soft on NET??????

....... The only answer is POOR MARKETING

> If the POST/LX UI is
> cleaner, well then...

I would also like to try out POST/LX. But is there any chance
without paying additional 30 bucks? (What about limited
demo version for registered users of WWW/LX ... e.g.
with diabled POP function...?????????????)

....... The only answer is POOR MARKETING

This is the BIIIIG difference of Bill Gates.

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> > BTW, we have discovered an internal bug (hardware conflict)
> > in HP 700. If interested in details, e-mail me.

Plug in a PCMCIA modem, and try to run NETTMER or WWW/LX.
Or try to be sending faxes using e.g. QFAX. After sometime
you find out the it does not work....

I.e. you loose connection when ON-LINE with Nettamer
or WWW/LX. You must turn the HP 700 on/off to start up the
modem/fax again.

The reason: The built in NOKIA card causes interferences with
another modem plugged in the PCMCIA slot.

However HP keeps silent......................!
(We lost a customer who wanted to buy 60 units of HP 700 and 60 Nokia
phones, and 60 ATA cards 40MB and 60 PC-card modems. All this
went dead, because HP 700 is a spoilage hybrid.)

Jan
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At 10:42 18/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>The WinCE machines don't use a 80x86 processor. Most of them use the SH3
>>processor by Hitachi. Since DOS is closely tied to the 80x86 architecture,
>>a port to a new processor would really be a big headache, since all low
>>level assembly routines would have to be rewritten.
>
>I recently saw a freeware (I think) version of dos called FreeDOS that is
>written in 'C'.  That might be portable enough

That's true. But there are *always* some system-dependent routines that
have to be rewritten. Not an easy task. And for that, we would need to have
access to a quite complete documentation about each WinCE internals. I
guess it'll not be for free or even for a reasonable price. It's really a
pity.

>for the job but if we can burn a ROM for the HP, I think the effort must be
>spent on porting linux for the 320lx since it is a better operating system
>(true multitasking for one)

I agree completely. I don't like DOS, but I know it very well, that, and
the fact of being able to run existing programs as they are, are the two
only advantages of DOS actually IMO.

Porting linux to (for example) the 320 would be a wonderfull job (provided
the full information I mentioned before). But let's be realistic. The
people like us that would enjoy that, are just a drop in an ocean. Handheld
devices are mainly used by people that use it for organizing, but never
ever think about programming for it.

Regards. Nacho.

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     Hi!
     Yes it has two slots but will recognize only one at a time. If you
     have a modem in the PCMCIA slot you can use the compact card. But you
     can't use both at the same time.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-lars (lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    8/18/97 12:51 PM


I tried out a friend's newly-purchased 320LX last week.  I'm glad I had a
chance to try one of these WinCE machines because it has strengthened my
appreciation for my little HP100LX.  The 320LX's screen had poor contrast
and most of the processor's time seemed to be taken up by the GUI...the
PocketWord application wasn't even able to keep up with my typing speed.
Worst of all, the WinCE machines are not true pocket computers.  They're
just too big to comfortably slip into my pocket or equipment bag.
Requiring a Win95 box to load software onto them is also a real limitation
(my buddy has a 286 desktop and the 320LX).  Having said that, I do wish my
100LX had a few of the 320LX's features:

1. Pen input (for quickly jotting down notes or diagrams).
2. Back-lit screen.
3. More than one PCMCIA slot (I know, I know, the 320LX only has one PCMCIA
slot
   but it also has a Compact Flash slot as well).

BTW, I used my LX's spreadsheet app to calculate lists of target times for
an offroad rally I was in yesterday.  We didn't place very well because I
nearly flipped my Jeep over when I drove off the road and wasted valuable
time winching back onto the trail BUT the LX made it much less stressful for
determining how our timing was coming along.  By the end of the day,
everything, including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed the LX
last night and today it's back to its regular function as my phonebook,
scheduler, and work-related information repository.  Such a versatile piece
of equipment!  My brother, who was navigating for me, is already talking
about building a serial input box from the speedometer's pulse counter so we
can write a rally calculator which reads the vehicle's speed directly and
can be calibrated for any tire size we happen to be running.

...lars (will probably wrap it in a zip-loc bag for the
         next rally)

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The Arisona packet radio group is selling garmin GPS units for $99. The
have a serial port that can be connected directly into the HP LX. I have
had a unit going for months. They have a home page that has links to a
number of GPS software providers.

karl

At 12:59 PM 8/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Got any Navy surplus units?
>
>JR
>
>>If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
>>report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable and
>>would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
>>speedometer.
>>
>>Stephen Souza
>>LAN Administration
>>757-322-3204
>>mailto:ssouza@exchg.cnsl.spear.navy.mil
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: larry soo ÝSMTP:lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET¨
>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 1997 2:51 PM
>>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>> Subject:      Ramblings
>>>
>>> BTW, I used my LX's spreadsheet app to calculate lists of target times
>>> for
>>> an offroad rally I was in yesterday.  We didn't place very well
>>> because I
>>> nearly flipped my Jeep over when I drove off the road and wasted
>>> valuable
>>> time winching back onto the trail BUT the LX made it much less
>>> stressful
>>> for determining how our timing was coming along.  By the end of the
>>> day,
>>> everything, including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed
>>> the LX
>>> last night and today it's back to its regular function as my
>>> phonebook,
>>> scheduler, and work-related information repository.  Such a versatile
>>> piece
>>> of equipment!  My brother, who was navigating for me, is already
>>> talking
>>> about building a serial input box from the speedometer's pulse counter
>>> so
>>> we can write a rally calculator which reads the vehicle's speed
>>> directly
>>> and can be calibrated for any tire size we happen to be running.
>>>
>>>
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Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>
> DATABASES
> I would like to know if anyone has experience with large phone or appt
> databases on the 200lx
> Specifically, my database files are growing larger than 50k and I'm
> wondering if there's
> some kind of maximum size at which point the apps suffer severe speed
> degredation.
>
> On a related note... My databases have corrupted several times and I've
> corrected the
> problems with GARLIC for the most part, but some corruption appears to
> exist.  On occasion
> I'll see random characters in an appt, or addrs.  Is there some way I
> could perhaps export and
> then re-import the file to clean it up?
>
> x2 UPGRADE
> Has anyone had negative experience at all in upgrading the speed of
> their 200LX ??
> I'm also questioning how worthwhile it is to upgrade the internal memory
> considering
> that I could probably get PC card memory much cheaper...
>
> PC card prices...
> So, where does a person find the best deals these days on PC cards???
>
> Thank you! (in advance)
> Marshall
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I just purchased the 8MB upgrade and the speed upgrade from Times2Tech
and so far it seems great.  Speed is at least twice as fast in some
applications.  I have a couple of database files over 50k (1 over 600k)
and processing time does slow down a bit but it's still tolerable.  It
still searches quicker than it takes Win95 to boot up on my desktop.
The speed upgrade really helps.  I can highly recommend Times2Tech.
They did exactly what they said they would do.

Jim Smith

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larry soo wrote:

> <<snip>>

> ...including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed the LX
>

> ...lars (will probably wrap it in a zip-loc bag for the
>          next rally)

Just cover it in shrinkwrap!

You will be able to read the screen, press the keys.... ETC!

Used my 95 - now in retirement - with 123 SS in economy run.  Calculated
required speed to complete each leg in allowed/remaining time.  Will dig
it out - should be somewhere on a disk.

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At 01:17 PM 8/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>The Arisona packet radio group is selling garmin GPS units for $99. The
>have a serial port that can be connected directly into the HP LX. I have
>had a unit going for months. They have a home page that has links to a
>number of GPS software providers.

Do you have the URL for the Web site?
Is it a parallel reciever?
How many channels?
Power Source?

Mark
"In Search of a new GPS"

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What's the Web address?


At 01:17 PM 8/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>The Arisona packet radio group is selling garmin GPS units for $99. The
>have a serial port that can be connected directly into the HP LX. I have
>had a unit going for months. They have a home page that has links to a
>number of GPS software providers.
>
>karl
>
>At 12:59 PM 8/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>Got any Navy surplus units?
>>
>>JR
>>
>>>If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
>>>report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable and
>>>would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
>>>speedometer.
>>>
>>>Stephen Souza
>>>LAN Administration
>>>757-322-3204
>>>mailto:ssouza@exchg.cnsl.spear.navy.mil
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: larry soo ÝSMTP:lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET¨
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 1997 2:51 PM
>>>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>>> Subject:      Ramblings
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I used my LX's spreadsheet app to calculate lists of target times
>>>> for
>>>> an offroad rally I was in yesterday.  We didn't place very well
>>>> because I
>>>> nearly flipped my Jeep over when I drove off the road and wasted
>>>> valuable
>>>> time winching back onto the trail BUT the LX made it much less
>>>> stressful
>>>> for determining how our timing was coming along.  By the end of the
>>>> day,
>>>> everything, including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed
>>>> the LX
>>>> last night and today it's back to its regular function as my
>>>> phonebook,
>>>> scheduler, and work-related information repository.  Such a versatile
>>>> piece
>>>> of equipment!  My brother, who was navigating for me, is already
>>>> talking
>>>> about building a serial input box from the speedometer's pulse counter
>>>> so
>>>> we can write a rally calculator which reads the vehicle's speed
>>>> directly
>>>> and can be calibrated for any tire size we happen to be running.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Sorry,

It is TAPRS (Tucson Amateur packet radio) at http://www.tapr.org/

Karl

>
>> <<snip>>
>
>> ...including the palmtop, was covered in dust.  I vacuumed the LX
>>
>
>> ...lars (will probably wrap it in a zip-loc bag for the
>>          next rally)
>
>Just cover it in shrinkwrap!
>
>You will be able to read the screen, press the keys.... ETC!
>
>Used my 95 - now in retirement - with 123 SS in economy run.  Calculated
>required speed to complete each leg in allowed/remaining time.  Will dig
>it out - should be somewhere on a disk.
>
>Leo Theron  ------------------------------------------------------
>==========---- leot@isdial.com // +27(0)82-570-4676 -----  **** ..
>------------------------------------------------------ ********
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I have Ricochet (SE model) and it works fine on my 200LX. Works just
like ordinary modem,
connected to serial port. There is no direct cable connection to LX type
serial connector as Ricochet
cable is design to plug into standard serial plug. You have to use LX
cable+male-to-male+ricochet
cable to make it work... A bit cumbersome but it works. Anybody knows of
other alternative or
a good and reasonable place that could make custom cable?

Predrag

John Ramos wrote:

> Has anyone tried Ricochet modems on the LX200? Another one to try is
> the
> Motorola wireless modem although I hear they are expensive to run.
>
> JR
>
> >>From what I understand, these are great modems (intend to snag one)
> but a
> >call to Apex elicited the unfortunate news that they DON'T work with
> >cellular on the 200LX. Why, I don't know, and it'd be good to confirm
> the
> >truth of this one way or the other...
> >wally
> >
> >>Apex Data has 33.6 PCMCIA modems for "landline and analog cellular"
> use
> >>with are said to work in the HP 200LX. Look at their website at:
> >>
> >>        http://www.apexdata.com/DataFaxMenu.html
> >>
> >
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My phone databases corrupt when the batter gets low.  I change batteries at
2.6v just to be on the safe side.  Never fails, my phone databases are the
first to suffer.

Carol

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Do you keep your PHONE.PDB file on a PC card?  If so, I suggest moving
it to the internal "C" drive.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Carol BernsteinÝSMTP:cmb@ACCA.NMSU.EDU¨
>Sent:  Monday, August 18, 1997 4:19 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       phone databases - 200LX
>
>My phone databases corrupt when the batter gets low.  I change batteries at
>2.6v just to be on the safe side.  Never fails, my phone databases are the
>first to suffer.
>
>Carol
>

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Subject:      MSMAIL on 320LX

Is anyone running MSMAIL remote on a 320LX? I would like to run this on my system and haven't seen much on a 'How To'.

Sam Stoxen


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Stephen wrote:

>If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
>report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable and
>would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
>speedometer.

The problem is twofold:

1) GPS accuracy varies and a 100m variance (at the most) can cause
   some navigational problems in a rally where many turn-offs are
   clustered together.
2) Rallies are held in mountainous and heavily forested terrain.  My
   Garmin GPS45 lost signal several times.  The newer 12-channel units
   would've worked better but still not well enough.


...lars

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Subject:      Re: Cracked LCD screen - what are my options?

On 1997-08-18 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt

 HP>You can transfer everything ove to a 200 blindly even if the screen
 HP>is damaged.  Done that too.

Well you don't have to work entirely blind - you could connect it with
Cpack running on your desktop computer, split the screen to view the
palmtop drives and do the transfers from there.

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Why would having *.pdb on A: drive cause a problem?

--- On Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:29:29 -0500  Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:

>Do you keep your PHONE.PDB file on a PC card?  If so, I suggest moving
>it to the internal "C" drive.
>
>Phil
>
>>----------
>>From:  Carol BernsteinÝSMTP:cmb@ACCA.NMSU.EDU¨
>>Sent:  Monday, August 18, 1997 4:19 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:       phone databases - 200LX
>>
>>My phone databases corrupt when the batter gets low.  I change batteries at
>>2.6v just to be on the safe side.  Never fails, my phone databases are the
>>first to suffer.
>>
>>Carol
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        What is this about the Appointment App. "beginning to fail" in 2011?
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I found a couple of postal rate programs for the PC, but all are too big to
run on the LX200. Does anyone have or have seen a program to calculate
postal rates. Sounds like something for 123 but maybe a database. I ship
FedEx with is no problem at all, hate UPS, they destroy too much. I need to
us USPS for some cheap items, trouble is that you need a magic decoder book
to figure out shipments. Thought would be very handy to have it in the LX.

JR

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there is an additional benifit to getting another hp200lx.  even if your
screen is busted, there is a good chance that you can still run the old
machine in SERVER mode, via ir link.  now you magically have another meg of
backup storage.

i know it will be a pain to set the screen-less unit up for server mode but
since you have the new one to look at while you echo key strokes on the old
one, i don't think it will be too tough.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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->Good news/bad news.  While this might get your batteries recharged
->without all the heat, this will probably shorten the ni-cad battery
->life.  Starting a recharge before fully discharging the ni-cads will
->cause the capacity to drop (memory effect).  Not as convenient, but a
->better way would be to have an external charger and do it outside the
->hp.

Aha, but there you need spare battery covers and the emotional tension of
whether the cover prongs will break this time or the next. <g>


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->On a related note... My databases have corrupted several times and I've
->corrected the
->problems with GARLIC for the most part, but some corruption appears to
->exist.  On occasion
->I'll see random characters in an appt, or addrs.  Is there some way I
->could perhaps export and
->then re-import the file to clean it up?

Are you using Software Carousel?  I have never had corrupted files in 4
years use of a 100LX.  When I bought a 200LX and started using SC for the
palmtop, I got several corrupted files.  Took off SC and no more corrupted
files.

Another reason for corrupted files is if you let your battery levels get
too low and the HP dies on you.  Non rechargeable alkalines tend to dip
suddenly in power towards the end.

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<< You have to use LX
cable+male-to-male+ricochet
cable to make it work... A bit cumbersome but it works. Anybody knows of
other alternative or
a good and reasonable place that could make custom cable?>>

Have you checked with David Shier? (805) 371-9391.

     Carl

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PHONE.PDB kept on internal "C" drive.

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Several years ago, my 95LX screen repair was $172 (US).  I presume a 100LX
would be more due to the increased resolution.  Hope this helps.

----------
>         Hello - yesterday I accidently sat down on my 4 year old HP100LX
> and snapped the LCD.  I was in church, and I had to stifle a loud cry
> when I opened the cover and saw the black morass which used to be my
> palmtop screen.  Can I get it fixed?  How much would it cost?  How much
> could I buy a used one for?  Should I downgrade to a 320 or palm pilot?
>
>         Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>         Brandon

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Only 1 category field exists.  The choices such as breakfast/lunch/dinner
are "option buttons"  within a "group box".  If you have limited choices,
this works well.

----------
> Does anyone know how to have more than one category be the "category"
> field type? Whenever I construct a new database in the HP200LX, it won't
> let me have more than one field as a "category" field type (it is greyed
> out after making one field this type). Yet, the built in restaurant
> database does have multiple "category" fields.
>
> Am I missing something pretty obvious?
> --
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Buddy handles this well too, but it includes hundreds of other features as
well.  It's available at www.palmtop.net/super or www.buddy.com if you are
interested.

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> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty new to the 200LX, but have already figured out a bunch via the
> great faq that exists - including how to have the filer launch dos
> applications based on the file suffix.  Unfortunately, it doesn't say
> anything about launching the hp applications from the filer.  Anyone
> know how to do this?  Specifically I'm trying to launch 1-2-3 with
> *.wk1 files.
>
> A similar question: How can I launch the built-in apps from dos?
>
> Thanks,
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At 18:50 8/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>there is an additional benifit to getting another hp200lx.  even if your
>screen is busted, there is a good chance that you can still run the old
>machine in SERVER mode, via ir link.  now you magically have another meg of
>backup storage.
>
>i know it will be a pain to set the screen-less unit up for server mode but
>since you have the new one to look at while you echo key strokes on the old
>one, i don't think it will be too tough.
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
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My 200lx screen was cracked when my unit fell off the car and was run over.
 I sent it to HP for repair and it cost $175.00.  I think I remember that
they told me if the repairs were more than $280.00 they would just replace
the unit.  Don't know if this info is still good for the HP repair center,
all this happened about one year ago.  You can see the broken unit on my
webpage at www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html if you want.

good luck,

Owen Samuelson

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There is a dialer program called LX-DIAL on:

          http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

I've tried it, but can't get it to work.  If you select a phone entry and
press a Fn+<some defined F-key> , LX-DIAL comes
up.  Then you can press H to dial the home phone, B for business etc.  When
it "dials" it sounds the tone needed to dial
the number--so you have to hold the LX up to the phone.

Challenges:
==========

   It's too slow in loading -- so it is recommended that you have some kind
of double speed enhancement.
   I can't get it to make any sounds at all -- so it doesn't work for me, yet.

Has any one else used LX-DIAL successfully?


At 04:30 PM 8/18/97 +0200, you wrote:
>I'm using the hp200lx since 2 month and up to now only connect it to the
PC. So I am not familiar with any link or data com s/w.
>Is it possible to dial a telefon number in tone mode, so one can use the
200LX as a automatic dialing tool (for instance from the address register)
? I did not find any hints in my manual !
>
>Regards
>
>Frax
>
>Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Tone mode"
>
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Right!  And one way to get publicity is to write a tactful
letter to some of the magazines.  I intend to write to Byte
asking why they did not review the 200LX and explaining why
I'm happy I bought 200LX and not the 320.

In doing this, I think its helpful to focus on facts rather than
creative, emotional statements that slam the 320 without supportive
evidence.


At 07:20 AM 8/18/97 -0700, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>Publicity! That's what the LX needs. Now if one of you can just figure a
>way to make a headline grabbing event (on the positive side...please) with
>the LX, the rest of us would be just SO grateful <g>.
>
>OTOH, Jeff Goldblum saved the world with an Apple Powerbook and alot of
>good it did for Apple. Likewise, an F-20 Tigershark was used to shoot down
>an alien spaceship (abeit a friendly one in the movie "Starman), and
>Northrop was still unable to sell any of those jets.
>
>MAYBE HP is hushed about the LX EXCEPT to their own employees....promoting
>CE to their rivals, as part of a strategic plan to gain a competitive
>advantage. How diabolically clever that would be! <G>.
>
>- Longden
>
>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Jeff Malka wrote:
>> I think we are all fooling ourselves.  HP may be making LX200s, but they
>> are keeping it a secret.  I have not found them in any store.  Even
>> mailorder catalogs do not mention the LX200.  You have to know you want a
>> 200 and look for it specifically usually from mailorder houses because it
>> is impossible to buy them from Office Depot, Staples, CompUSA,
>> MicroCenter, etc.
>>
>> Sounds to me like they are making them for whoever specifically asks for
>> them but they sure are not publicising their existence and are letting it
>> die.  What a bunch of dummies.
>
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Another ***BIG *** advantage of DOS that is that
DOS enables you to easily automate a *lot* of processes that normally must be
done manually in Windows.  Simple things like copying files, setting
read-write
access, overwriting protected files.  It drives me nuts in Windows.  With DOS
I can set up a simple batch program and run it with a single click.

Just because you can easily do something manually in Windows, doesn't mean
you should have to do it over and over again if it is a routine task.

And external DOS programs are relatively easy to create; they are easily
transportable--they aren't fat monsters that require a lot of baggage: dlls,
ini files, resource files, pbd files, bmp files, and you name it.

That's why I decided to write Ear Trainer (a music education program)
in DOS first.

> ...
>I agree completely. I don't like DOS, but I know it very well, that, and
>the fact of being able to run existing programs as they are, are the two
>only advantages of DOS actually IMO.
>
...
>Regards. Nacho.
>

I agree that most people, though, are users not programmers.  Still, there
are a ton of DOS programs out there that people can enjoy with a Palmtop.

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Do you have to send in your 200LX to get the speed upgrade?

At 04:10 PM 8/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>>
>> DATABASES
>> I would like to know if anyone has experience with large phone or appt
>> databases on the 200lx
>> Specifically, my database files are growing larger than 50k and I'm
>> wondering if there's
>> some kind of maximum size at which point the apps suffer severe speed
>> degredation.
>>
>> On a related note... My databases have corrupted several times and I've
>> corrected the
>> problems with GARLIC for the most part, but some corruption appears to
>> exist.  On occasion
>> I'll see random characters in an appt, or addrs.  Is there some way I
>> could perhaps export and
>> then re-import the file to clean it up?
>>
>> x2 UPGRADE
>> Has anyone had negative experience at all in upgrading the speed of
>> their 200LX ??
>> I'm also questioning how worthwhile it is to upgrade the internal memory
>> considering
>> that I could probably get PC card memory much cheaper...
>>
>> PC card prices...
>> So, where does a person find the best deals these days on PC cards???
>>
>> Thank you! (in advance)
>> Marshall
>>
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>I just purchased the 8MB upgrade and the speed upgrade from Times2Tech
>and so far it seems great.  Speed is at least twice as fast in some
>applications.  I have a couple of database files over 50k (1 over 600k)
>and processing time does slow down a bit but it's still tolerable.  It
>still searches quicker than it takes Win95 to boot up on my desktop.
>The speed upgrade really helps.  I can highly recommend Times2Tech.
>They did exactly what they said they would do.
>
>Jim Smith
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From:         "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      WWW/LX Post/LX...I love it!

This message was sent a few hours previous under an incorrect subject title. Sorry for the duplication...
--------------------

I use the new version of WWW/LX with Post/LX for ALL of my E-mail and Newsgroup activities. I also use the Web Browser part of this fine product to travel the Internet, write and update my web site. I travel a lot and changing access numbers for my ISP is very easy. There is a learning curve involved but it is an excellent product. I especially like the feature of reading and writing e-mail off-line. This means that every morning I press a button (pardon the lack of technical jargon) and come back later. My e-mail has been sent, received and phone line disconnected.

Sources:
D&A Software: 818 341-1188
Educalc: 800 385-9376
Shier Systemms: 805 371-9391
Cost $109.00

The hardest part "might be" the settings for your own ISP (Internet Service Provider). If there is no script already provided for your ISP in WWW/LX, you may need to write one. I want to compliment D&A customer support for helping me with this task.
In conclusion: I highly recommend WWW/LX with Post/LX. I use it for ALL my e-mail and Newsgroup activity. I am sending this note with my HP200LX.

Ken Moore
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From:         Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cracked LCD screen - what are my options?
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Some people (like me) are just lazy.  They want to just click on your URL
to jump to it.

So instead of typing:

   "You can see the broken unit on my
  webpage at www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html if you want."

You might consider typing the full URL, like this:

    http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html


Eurdora will then highlight the URL indicating that it is a link.


At 10:12 PM 8/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 18:50 8/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>there is an additional benifit to getting another hp200lx.  even if your
>>screen is busted, there is a good chance that you can still run the old
>>machine in SERVER mode, via ir link.  now you magically have another meg of
>>backup storage.
>>
>>i know it will be a pain to set the screen-less unit up for server mode but
>>since you have the new one to look at while you echo key strokes on the old
>>one, i don't think it will be too tough.
>>
>>cordially,
>>
>>lynn m. cavendish
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>My 200lx screen was cracked when my unit fell off the car and was run over.
> I sent it to HP for repair and it cost $175.00.  I think I remember that
>they told me if the repairs were more than $280.00 they would just replace
>the unit.  Don't know if this info is still good for the HP repair center,
>all this happened about one year ago.
 You can see the broken unit on my
>webpage at www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html if you want.
>
>good luck,
>
>Owen Samuelson
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I would like to get a fax/mode for my 200 LX.
Does any one have any recommendations?
ThinFax?
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> >for the job but if we can burn a ROM for the HP, I think the effort must be
> >spent on porting linux for the 320lx since it is a better operating system
> >(true multitasking for one)
>
> Porting linux to (for example) the 320 would be a wonderfull job (provided
> the full information I mentioned before). But let's be realistic. The
> people like us that would enjoy that, are just a drop in an ocean. Handheld
> devices are mainly used by people that use it for organizing, but never
> ever think about programming for it.

It's true about being a drop in the ocean ... but if the ELKS project is
happening for the 8086... a 320lx project has more to work with, apart from
raw processing power: memory protection on a processor that (I'm sure)
already has a version of linux written for it.

Brendan

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On Mon, 18 Aug 1997, R.W. Hutchinson. wrote:

>         What is this about the Appointment App. "beginning to fail" in 2011?

I thought there was some discussion in the old mailing list about Year
2000 and its effects on the LX.

Seems like there was some point, well after 2000 that some LX apps would
have problems, tho maybe 2011 wasn't the right number (I just tested in
the Appt app and it seems you can't "goto" (F5) any year after 2100).

- Longden

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A few weeks ago some people were discussing the Japanese software
package (PAL) for project management on the palmtop, called PJT2.

Since there is no documentation available in English, there were
plans to start writing down everyone's experience with this nice
little gadget. What happened to the initiative?

Does anyone still have a copy of the messages that were exchanged
concerning this topic? I would like to contribute, without, however,
repeating things that have been said before.

Frank

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From:         "Ignacio Garcõa Pôrez" <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: TECH: lx databases, x2 upgrade.  WANT: best price on PCcards
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At 18:56 18/08/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Another reason for corrupted files is if you let your battery levels get
>too low and the HP dies on you.  Non rechargeable alkalines tend to dip
>suddenly in power towards the end.

According to my experience, that happens to Ni-Cd rechargeables. The
voltage drops very quickly when they get discharged, moreover, they can
develop "memory effect" which makes things worse. The voltage in the
alkalines drops smoothly so you can figure out when they are almost empty.

Regards. Nacho.

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mdstockr wrote:
>
> Why would having *.pdb on A: drive cause a problem?
>
I am unsure as to why a *.pdb file would become corrupted on A: drive
any more than on C: drive while the flash card remained in the PCMCIA
slot. However, if you run a PCMCIA modem as well as a flash card, have
any database file stored on the flash card & take out the card to use
the modem while the database is open, it is more than likely that the
file will become corrupted. This was my experience the one time I did
it. Since then I have stored my important database files (appt.adb,
notes.ndb & phone.pdb) in the C:\_DAT directory so that the auto-save
feature will always work in the database files. By keeping my most used
*db files in this directory I minimize the risk of inadvertantly
corrupting them.

Steven English

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From:         Iasias Montano <bolivia@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Ramblings

Would you please provide me with the web adress for Arisona pocket radio
group...

Thanks...
-------------------------------

On Mon, 18 Aug 1997 13:17:42 -0700 Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
writes:
>The Arisona packet radio group is selling garmin GPS units for $99.
>The
>have a serial port that can be connected directly into the HP LX. I
>have
>had a unit going for months. They have a home page that has links to a
>number of GPS software providers.
>
>karl

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->A few weeks ago some people were discussing the Japanese software
->package (PAL) for project management on the palmtop, called PJT2.
->Since there is no documentation available in English, there were plans
->to start writing down everyone's experience with this nice little
->gadget. What happened to the initiative?
->Does anyone still have a copy of the messages that were exchanged
->concerning this topic? I would like to contribute, without, however,
->repeating things that have been said before.

I started that and yesterday night I recieved from Kiyoshi the first draft
of the translation he made of the original Japanese docs.  I will in the
next day or two package it into a zip file which will include the
documentation we have figured out and send it to SUPER for everyone.  The
Japanese docs, even translated are not very clear and hence the need for
the suplemental file.  Between the two you can easily work the app.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>


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              at Aug 19, 97 07:39:28 am
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I think they are called TAPR, for Tucson Amateur Packet Radio (??)
and they have a web site, where all info can be seen, probably
http://www.tapr.org

/mark

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I have a Garmin 45XL and agree that the signal can be easily lost.  I
have the external antenna which improves the situation immensely.  It
has a suction cup that can be mounted on the windshield or sunroof.  A
little inconvenient in the woods, but ok in a car or boat.

larry soo wrote:

> Stephen wrote:
>
> >If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
> >report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable
> and
> >would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
> >speedometer.
>
> The problem is twofold:
>
> 1) GPS accuracy varies and a 100m variance (at the most) can cause
>    some navigational problems in a rally where many turn-offs are
>    clustered together.
> 2) Rallies are held in mountainous and heavily forested terrain.  My
>    Garmin GPS45 lost signal several times.  The newer 12-channel units
>
>    would've worked better but still not well enough.
>
> ...lars
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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Steven English wrote:

> mdstockr wrote:
> >
> > Why would having *.pdb on A: drive cause a problem?
> >
> I am unsure as to why a *.pdb file would become corrupted on A: drive
> any more than on C: drive while the flash card remained in the PCMCIA
> slot. However, if you run a PCMCIA modem as well as a flash card, have
> any database file stored on the flash card & take out the card to use
> the modem while the database is open, it is more than likely that the
> file will become corrupted. This was my experience the one time I did
<snip>

I keep all my .*db files on the flash card and use a PCMCIA modem daily,
but I almost always close all apps before making the card switch.

I use a macro to do the close ({More}{Menu}{Enter}L{More}), and I rarely
get any corruptions anymore.

- Longden

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I played with LX-DIAL about 8 to 10 months ago on a 200LX 1MB, and it worked fine.


Sean D. Hoger
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Is there a "central" place where one can find prepared macros?

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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:36:33,
        Frank Ubachs <ubachs@MAIL.XS4ALL.NL> wrote:

> A few weeks ago some people were discussing the Japanese
> software
> package (PAL) for project management on the palmtop, called
> PJT2...

> Does anyone still have a copy of the messages that were
> exchanged concerning this topic?...

The digest archives of this list are searchable, see the URL in the
footer. I will have the individual messages searchable starting in
September.

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*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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All GPS-units without external Antenna lost signal in forest terrain. I =
have Garmin GPS II Plus 12 channel and it work very good in open terrain =
inside the car. In forest or mountain You must have external antenna.

Second problem: 100 meters position accuracy. It is idea civil GPS.
GPS system has two system=20
1. military system with great accuracy
2. civil system with signal disturb and position accuracy about 50-100 =
m. It is enough for many application i.e. Yachting or road navigation.
You may enhance accuracy of Your GPS-unit by DGPS receiver but i dont =
know if GPS 45 can work with DGPS receiver.

regards
Jurek Najda
remsoft@gryf.com.pl

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> Do: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Temat: GPS, Palmtop & Rallies, was: Ramplings
> Data: 18 sierpnia 1997 23:56
>=20
> Stephen wrote:
>=20
> >If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
> >report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable =
and
> >would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
> >speedometer.
>=20
> The problem is twofold:
>=20
> 1) GPS accuracy varies and a 100m variance (at the most) can cause
>    some navigational problems in a rally where many turn-offs are
>    clustered together.
> 2) Rallies are held in mountainous and heavily forested terrain.  My
>    Garmin GPS45 lost signal several times.  The newer 12-channel units
>    would've worked better but still not well enough.
>=20
>=20
> ...lars
>=20
> =
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See on Garmin web site:
http://illustra.garmin.com
GPS 45XL specification:
It ready for work with =A0GARMIN GBR 21 DGPS receiver and it has detachab=
le
antenna. You may work with external GARMIN GA-26 external antenna.
Not all GARMIN has new models of GPS unit GPS III and GPS III Pilot. See =
on
this website.

regards
Jurek

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> Data: 18 sierpnia 1997 23:56
>=20
> Stephen wrote:
>=20
> >If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
> >report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable a=
nd
> >would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
> >speedometer.
>=20
> The problem is twofold:
>=20
> 1) GPS accuracy varies and a 100m variance (at the most) can cause
>    some navigational problems in a rally where many turn-offs are
>    clustered together.
> 2) Rallies are held in mountainous and heavily forested terrain.  My
>    Garmin GPS45 lost signal several times.  The newer 12-channel units
>    would've worked better but still not well enough.
>=20
>=20
> ...lars
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site:<br>http://illustra.garmin.com<br>GPS 45XL specification:<br>It =
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antenna. You may work with external GARMIN GA-26 external =
antenna.<br>Not all GARMIN has new models of GPS unit GPS III and GPS =
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website.<br><br>regards<br>Jurek<br><br>----------<br>&gt; Od: larry soo =
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wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;If you use a GPS unit it will give you a =
position, heading and speed<br>&gt; &gt;report that can be logged and =
replayed later. This would be portable and<br>&gt; &gt;would be able to =
move to any vehicle without special wiring to the<br>&gt; =
&gt;speedometer.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; The problem is twofold:<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; 1) GPS accuracy varies and a 100m variance (at the most) can =
cause<br>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;some navigational problems in a rally =
where many turn-offs are<br>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;clustered =
together.<br>&gt; 2) Rallies are held in mountainous and heavily =
forested terrain. &nbsp;My<br>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Garmin GPS45 lost =
signal several times. &nbsp;The newer 12-channel units<br>&gt; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;would've worked better but still not well =
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I believe that you need a null-modem adapter as well as a gender
changer.
That combination worked fine for me with the 300LX, but I had problems
getting WWW/LX to work properly.  I was able to connect to my ISP and
receive
my IP address, but that's as far as it went.  I still don't know why
that didn't work.

I now have the newer compact Ricochet modem that I'd love to get working
with the
200LX as I'm returning the 300LX.
If anyone has a lead on the custom cables I'd love to hear about it.
I'll bet that Redmond Cable would build them for us.

Marshall
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> From:         predragÝSMTP:predrag@MINDSPRING.COM¨
> Sent:         Monday, August 18, 1997 2:19 PM
> Subject:      Re: Cellular-Compatible Modem for 200LX?
>
> I have Ricochet (SE model) and it works fine on my 200LX. Works just
> like ordinary modem,
> connected to serial port. There is no direct cable connection to LX
> type
> serial connector as Ricochet
> cable is design to plug into standard serial plug. You have to use LX
> cable+male-to-male+ricochet
> cable to make it work... A bit cumbersome but it works. Anybody knows
> of
> other alternative or
> a good and reasonable place that could make custom cable?
>
> Predrag
>
> John Ramos wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried Ricochet modems on the LX200? Another one to try is
> > the
> > Motorola wireless modem although I hear they are expensive to run.
> >
> > JR
> >
> > >>From what I understand, these are great modems (intend to snag
> one)
> > but a
> > >call to Apex elicited the unfortunate news that they DON'T work
> with
> > >cellular on the 200LX. Why, I don't know, and it'd be good to
> confirm
> > the
> > >truth of this one way or the other...
> > >wally
> > >
> > >>Apex Data has 33.6 PCMCIA modems for "landline and analog
> cellular"
> > use
> > >>with are said to work in the HP 200LX. Look at their website at:
> > >>
> > >>        http://www.apexdata.com/DataFaxMenu.html
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Nope, haven't tried SC yet, but I'm planning on buying it if the price
is right.
My corruption occurred when I had a TSR lock up my machine.  At the same
time I was running another TSR that speeds up the database routine.
The combination was lethal.. :-(  It killed my reoccuring appts.
I'm not using either of those TSRs now.  If I use SC, I'm going to close
all
databases before swapping.  I'm once bitten twice shy.

Marshall

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> From:         Jeff MalkaÝSMTP:malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM¨
> Sent:         Monday, August 18, 1997 3:56 PM
> Subject:      Re: TECH: lx databases, x2 upgrade.  WANT: best price on
> PCcards
>
> ->On a related note... My databases have corrupted several times and
> I've
> ->corrected the
> ->problems with GARLIC for the most part, but some corruption appears
> to
> ->exist.  On occasion
> ->I'll see random characters in an appt, or addrs.  Is there some way
> I
> ->could perhaps export and
> ->then re-import the file to clean it up?
>
> Are you using Software Carousel?  I have never had corrupted files in
> 4
> years use of a 100LX.  When I bought a 200LX and started using SC for
> the
> palmtop, I got several corrupted files.  Took off SC and no more
> corrupted
> files.
>
> Another reason for corrupted files is if you let your battery levels
> get
> too low and the HP dies on you.  Non rechargeable alkalines tend to
> dip
> suddenly in power towards the end.
>
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> *Orthopaedic Surgery     http://www.orthohelp.com/
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ThinFax is ok.  They don't have drivers for the RAM in the version with
memory if you intend to swap between W95 and your palmtop.  (bummer)
The modem works great and my ThinFax/4meg has been working for two years
now.

Phil

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>
>I would like to get a fax/mode for my 200 LX.
>Does any one have any recommendations?
>ThinFax?
>===========================================================================
>Philip Seyer -- Phone:  415-665-8933  -- author of  *What Makes Music Work*
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remsoft wrote:
You may enhance accuracy of Your GPS-unit by DGPS receiver but i dont
know if GPS 45 can work with DGPS receiver.
-----------------------
Also, Differential GPS (DGPS) must be receiving correction values that
are broadcast from a (usually) land-based transmitter. Therefore you now
have two concerns; are you receiving the GPS signals from the
satellites, AND are you receiving the corrections. Many differential
setups are designed with sea coverage in mind, so land coverage may not
be too good. Yes DGPS is much more accurate, but check the coverage
before spending the dough  :)

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Can anyone suggest an ANSI C compiler to run on the 200LX? (need it for a
class).

I know this has been hashed over quite a bit, but it was never clear to me
whether shareware compilers (ie, PCC) were any better than cheap (Mix) or
outdated copies of commercial ones (Turbo C++, Quick-C)...and I probably
wasn't paying attention anyway.

The class requires the compiler be fully ANSI compliant.

Thanks for any feedback on this.

- Longden

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I use turbo c 2.0 it's great it has a good debuger and you don't need to
compile from dos line (unlike with pcc or zcc where you have to write:
E:\tcc\tcc test.c test.exe -frhiurfrf and then look in a text file to
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Identifying the best compiler for palmtop development is a very useful
thing.  I would like to run a survey on this

Can all the palmtop programmers answer a few questions for me please

1.  What language do you use to develop for the palmtop?
2.  What compiler do you use ?
3.  Where did you get it? Is it still available?
4.  Why did you choose it compared to the other compilers you tried?
5.  Do you run it on the palmtop or your desktop?


Please mail your replies to vivek.venugopalan@usa.net.  Please do not post
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At 11:37 AM 8/19/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can anyone suggest an ANSI C compiler to run on the 200LX? (need it for a
>class).
>
>I know this has been hashed over quite a bit, but it was never clear to me
>whether shareware compilers (ie, PCC) were any better than cheap (Mix) or
>outdated copies of commercial ones (Turbo C++, Quick-C)...and I probably
>wasn't paying attention anyway.
>
>The class requires the compiler be fully ANSI compliant.
>
>Thanks for any feedback on this.
>
>- Longden
>
I had used Borland Turbo C 1.0 for my C class a couple of years ago.
I had just recently looked for the disk and couldn't find it ;¬((
It fit on one 1.4 meg floppy with room to spare.

Anyone got a copy to sell??

Mark

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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Mark Sailer wrote:
> I had used Borland Turbo C 1.0 for my C class a couple of years ago.
> I had just recently looked for the disk and couldn't find it ;¬((
> It fit on one 1.4 meg floppy with room to spare.
>
> Anyone got a copy to sell??

Thanks to all respondents. Seems several of you use Turbo C (which is
largely unavailable unless I get lucky at the swap meet), and some have
proposed PCC which I've now tried on a sample class problem and it appears
that PCC is not ANSI compliant.

Some others mentioned Power C from Mix Software (a $20 compiler)...but
didn't venture any opinion on it....does anyone use this or have any
comments on it?

- Longden

PS - Vivek is right...a survey of C compilers that work on the LX would be
a good thing to see. Please forward us any final tallies.

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I'm looking for a software/shareware with highway maps for the 200lx.
I'm interested in maps for France, Canada and USA.
The WINCE have automap i know there was a shareware for France called PC
route but i can't find it and i'm not sure it will work on the palmtop.


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Is it possible to emulate or simulate a vga display for the 200lx?
Lots of software are only made for VGA drivers and won't work on the
200lx only because of that it would be great to be able to use vga
software. May be we would need a function to change colors like cgahlp
but whcih can change colors even when the prog is loaded (like we can
change contrast with on+ or on- or on/).

        I hope i will have the answer soon, thanks


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At 11:37 8/19/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can anyone suggest an ANSI C compiler to run on the 200LX? (need it for a
>class).
>
>I know this has been hashed over quite a bit, but it was never clear to me
>whether shareware compilers (ie, PCC) were any better than cheap (Mix) or
>outdated copies of commercial ones (Turbo C++, Quick-C)...and I probably
>wasn't paying attention anyway.
>
>The class requires the compiler be fully ANSI compliant.
>
>Thanks for any feedback on this.
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I use Microsoft Quick-C version 1.1 on my 200lx and it works great!
Owen

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At 11:48 8/19/97 PDT, you wrote:
>I use turbo c 2.0 it's great it has a good debuger and you don't need to
>compile from dos line (unlike with pcc or zcc where you have to write:
>E:\tcc\tcc test.c test.exe -frhiurfrf and then look in a text file to
>see the error(s) )
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I use Microsoft Quick-C on my 1 meg 200lx in conjunction with PAL and it
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Would it be possible to run win CE software on the 200lx.
I think it would be necessary to have a emulator or something like that
but i'm not sure it's possible. Anyway any idear is welcome...

                        FX.

PS: Win CE seems to have more and more interesting programms.
PS2: We would need to have a mouse driver to use it has a pen.

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Does anyone have any experience in using the following on a 100/200LX:

 - ACT! for 95LX
 - ACT! for DOS

Any opinions on whether they are worth acquiring?

Thanks,
Michael
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        Hi,
        I'm the guy that sat down on my HP100LX recently.  Thanks to
everyone for your sympathy and suggestions.  I plan to call the HP
support center and get an express exchange as Gardner Cohen suggested.
I have a couple of followup questions before I get on the phone with HP.
This unit had a couple of other problems - a serial port pin (pin1) had
broken off, and the infamous right hinge had been replaced with a
glued-on strip of aluminum.  Will they penalize me for these other
problems?  Also, my 100 has 2Mb of RAM.  Is it the same cost
($175+$65=$240) to replace a 2Mb version?  I don't see why not - they'll
get a working 2Mb motherboard in exchange.

        Brandon

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mdstockr wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any experience in using the following on a 100/200LX:
>
>  - ACT! for 95LX
>  - ACT! for DOS
>
> Any opinions on whether they are worth acquiring?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
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I briefly used ACT! for the 95LX a few years ago.  As I recall, you
could only have 1 database of contacts which was unacceptable for me at
the time.  Otherwise, it seemed ok.  I have not tried it on a 100/200
platform.  Should work ok.

Jim Smith

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Marshall,

I just gave it to the driver, you'll have it Thursday!!!!

John

Have that check ready for $470.50.

Thnaks again and have fun with them this weekend!

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At 11:37 19/08/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can anyone suggest an ANSI C compiler to run on the 200LX? (need it for a
>class).
>
>I know this has been hashed over quite a bit, but it was never clear to me
>whether shareware compilers (ie, PCC) were any better than cheap (Mix) or
>outdated copies of commercial ones (Turbo C++, Quick-C)...and I probably
>wasn't paying attention anyway.
>
>The class requires the compiler be fully ANSI compliant.

I would suggest Turbo C 2.0. It's quite small once installed, and very fast
compiling, but no C++ (I guess you don't need it). I own more recent and
better compilers (like Borland C++ 3.1 or Watcom C/C++ 10.5), but STILL use
Turbo C 2.0 for compiling most of the simple projects I program on my
desktop, mainly because -I insist- it's fast as light when compiling.

And, as far as I know, It's full ANSI C compliant and the code quality is
very good.

Regards. Nacho.

P.S: I hope it's still being sold. Otherwise it's gonna be quite difficult
to get. Drop me an email in that case.

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I have 3 CD-ROMS (Automap Streets Plus, DeLome Street Atlas USA, and =
Precision Mapping 2.0)  I use this software to create maps by copying =
the map on the screen to the windows clipboard, I then paste them into  =
Corel Draw, then create 2 color (B&W) .gif files. These .gif files can =
be viewed with any .gif viewer that will run on the HP Palmtop. Try it! =
It works.

Rodger=20

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Subject:  Pocket automap for 200lx

I'm looking for a software/shareware with highway maps for the 200lx.
I'm interested in maps for France, Canada and USA.
The WINCE have automap i know there was a shareware for France called PC
route but i can't find it and i'm not sure it will work on the palmtop.


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Subject:      Laplink under Win95

For those who were interested in the issue of connectivity and the 200LX
with the Win95 desktop (or seemingly lack thereof) perhaps you may wish to
have a look at Pete Jordan's notes on the subject. I saved the web page
some weeks ago and only got round to reviewing it today so I can't
remember the URL but I think it's on Murray Barton's site. Pete's address
is listed as 71533.2001@Compuserve.com.

I tried his recipe today and I'm pleased to report that it works quite
well on my Win95 system so far. It completely replaces TransFile200 for me
which was quite slow (@57600 on my machine) and sometimes unreliable
(though not as bad as WinFiler). For some reason TF200 worked flawlessly
on my Satellite notebook but not reliably at all on my existing Win95
desktop!? With this method of connecting (Laplink from Cpack200 is
required) all my palmtop drives and their contents appear in the Windows
Explorer (including F:) and I am free to drag, drop and do many other
useful chores. Connecting and mapping the drives is as easy as plugging in
the serial cable and starting LapLink on the 200 - that's it! F8
disconnects you. It can even be used with networked machines according to
the notes.

I opened a zipped archive which resided on my desktop using WinZip32 and
extracted just one document from it directly to the appropriate dir on my
palmtop's stacked C: drive! Try doing that with TF200 :-)

For those contemplating buying a 200LX and wondering about file transfers
and connectivity vs the 'ease' of using a 320LX with a Win95 desktop (or
even considering if to get the Cpack) this could be something worth
exploring before you make your decision...

Regards,

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On Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:02:13 UT, Ed wrote:

>Good news/bad news.  While this might get your batteries recharged =
without all
>the heat, this will probably shorten the ni-cad battery life.  Starting =
a
>recharge before fully discharging the ni-cads will cause the capacity to=
 drop
>(memory effect).  Not as convenient, but a better way would be to have =
an
>external charger and do it outside the hp.  Personally, I have been =
using
>alkalines so it's just an observation from the boatload of other stuff I=
 have
>that use ni-cads.

Constant trickle charging of NiCads is actually quite good for them.
It's also fair to say that the 'memory' effect is not nearly such a
problem these days as it was in early NiCads. I've had one pair of
NiCads in my HP since January 96, and I still get the same time
between charges although I plug it in whenever I think about it.

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What is the web URL and what is it called?

JR


At 07:34 PM 8/19/97 -0800, you wrote:
>For those who were interested in the issue of connectivity and the 200LX
>with the Win95 desktop (or seemingly lack thereof) perhaps you may wish to
>have a look at Pete Jordan's notes on the subject. I saved the web page
>some weeks ago and only got round to reviewing it today so I can't
>remember the URL but I think it's on Murray Barton's site. Pete's address
>is listed as 71533.2001@Compuserve.com.
>
>I tried his recipe today and I'm pleased to report that it works quite
>well on my Win95 system so far. It completely replaces TransFile200 for me
>which was quite slow (@57600 on my machine) and sometimes unreliable
>(though not as bad as WinFiler). For some reason TF200 worked flawlessly
>on my Satellite notebook but not reliably at all on my existing Win95
>desktop!? With this method of connecting (Laplink from Cpack200 is
>required) all my palmtop drives and their contents appear in the Windows
>Explorer (including F:) and I am free to drag, drop and do many other
>useful chores. Connecting and mapping the drives is as easy as plugging in
>the serial cable and starting LapLink on the 200 - that's it! F8
>disconnects you. It can even be used with networked machines according to
>the notes.
>
>I opened a zipped archive which resided on my desktop using WinZip32 and
>extracted just one document from it directly to the appropriate dir on my
>palmtop's stacked C: drive! Try doing that with TF200 :-)
>
>For those contemplating buying a 200LX and wondering about file transfers
>and connectivity vs the 'ease' of using a 320LX with a Win95 desktop (or
>even considering if to get the Cpack) this could be something worth
>exploring before you make your decision...
>
>Regards,
>
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>
> Email: ianmel@opus.co.tt
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I use Act! for 95/100/200 (it's all the same) with Act for W95, ver 3.0.

By itself, Act for HP is too idiosyncratic to be useful, but it is fully
synchronizable with 3.0. And therein is its main and only advantage: it
allows you to carry all your contacts, appointments, todos, etc. What's the
big deal? Once you've synchronized, Act on desktop is amazingly powerful.

For example, when I invoice someone, it automatically creates a to-do for a
month later, and for another month later, for that contact: "Did he pay?" A
click and a nasty reminder letter is generated. Tons of different features.
Of course, there is lots of software that can do these things, but the two
Acts allow you to be in control of all of this on a little HP - and with no
extra software and no employees to bother with!

Mikhail

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| Date: August 19, 1997 4:39 PM
|
| Does anyone have any experience in using the following on a 100/200LX:
|
|  - ACT! for 95LX
|  - ACT! for DOS
|
| Any opinions on whether they are worth acquiring?
|
| Thanks,
| Michael
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David,

Nope, HP's recommendation of draining the CAPS didn't help. I sent it to
HP for repair, and the only thing on the repair note was "repair logic".
So I don't know exactly what logic they repaired, I wish I knew though,
it works now. If yours is eating batteries in the off mode, send it in.

Ron

David L Sprinkle wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Ron Levesque wrote:
>
> > I just bought a "new" 1 meg 200 that was a display model at Service
> > Merchandise, and a pair of Energizers only last about 18 hours IN
> THE
> > OFF MODE ! and I don't even have any pcmcia's installed. I called HP
> > tech support 970-392-1001(the number in the manual is wrong) they
> said
> > to take all the batteries out, and leave em out for at least 24
> hours to
> > drain the capacitors...??? Sounds strange to me, anyone heard of
> this
> > before ? I'll let you know if it works tomorrow.
>
> Ron:
>
>         Did what HP recommended work on your palmtop. I'm having a
> similar
> problem with a 4meg palmtop with NiCads.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
> Indiana University Physics Dept.
> Swain West Rm. 117
> Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347

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I have access to 25 pcs of HP95LX new from HP and wonder if there is a
market for them as parts or whole units?!

Any ideas from the gang?

JR

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John,
        I have a 14.4 modem I got from Luigi        it costs $20.00 plus
shipping and he even sends it out for a free trial. When I got it I was
suprised to see that it is also cellular ready, although it doesn't have
a separate cellular cable. I haven't had time to try to set it up and
connect over it, but it is brand new in the box for only $20.00!  He is
at:

Luigi Giovanetti
617-747-3903
lgiovanetti@pdapad.com

So give him a call or e-mail him. I saw a message sometime back on the
list about it so e-mailed him and he sent it out to me right away.

Bob Aldrich
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>
> Has anyone tried Ricochet modems on the LX200? Another one to try is the
> Motorola wireless modem although I hear they are expensive to run.
>
> JR
>
> >>From what I understand, these are great modems (intend to snag one) but a
> >call to Apex elicited the unfortunate news that they DON'T work with
> >cellular on the 200LX. Why, I don't know, and it'd be good to confirm the
> >truth of this one way or the other...
> >wally
> >
> >>Apex Data has 33.6 PCMCIA modems for "landline and analog cellular" use
> >>with are said to work in the HP 200LX. Look at their website at:
> >>
> >>        http://www.apexdata.com/DataFaxMenu.html
> >>
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Are they functional and what kind of price are you looking for for whole units?

--- On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:34:24 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:

>I have access to 25 pcs of HP95LX new from HP and wonder if there is a
>market for them as parts or whole units?!
>
>Any ideas from the gang?
>
>JR
>

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> I have access to 25 pcs of HP95LX new from HP and wonder if there is a
> market for them as parts or whole units?!

There was an article in a recent QST (ham radio magazine) about using the 95LX
as a controller for an Icom HF radio. The author stated that the 95LX was not
readily available any more, but used ones could be found for about $150. You
might try your luck on the ham radio USENET group: rec.radio.swap and see if
you can drum up some interest.

Mitch

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> Is it possible to emulate or simulate a vga display for the 200lx?
> Lots of software are only made for VGA drivers and won't work on the
> 200lx only because of that it would be great to be able to use vga
> software. May be we would need a function to change colors like cgahlp
> but whcih can change colors even when the prog is loaded (like we can
> change contrast with on+ or on- or on/).

In a word, no.  Unfortunately VGA is far beyond the capability of the 200=
.
There isn't enough video memory, for starters, and the hardware is comple=
tely
(well, mostly) incompatible.  I know CGA is a limiting factor for softwar=
e, but
gee whiz, a 256K gate array and a multisync 640x480 LCD is really beyond
the practical limits of a palmtop.

The only software video emulator I know of is SimCGA, which runs on Hercu=
les
cards.  Unfortunately that won't help us much.

I have several 1000+ page programmers books which may be of some help, =
I'll
look through them tonight.  But it seems quite impossible at this point.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

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> Would it be possible to run win CE software on the 200lx.
> I think it would be necessary to have a emulator or something like that
> but i'm not sure it's possible. Anyway any idear is welcome...

No.  Wince is written for wince palmtops, which use custom processors
and subsystems etc etc.  Plus you'd need a wince ROM, you can't get
the OS on disk or anything.

Besides, if the 200LX running at 8 mhz can outrun a wince palmtop at
40 mhz, what's the point?  It would run so ungodly slow if you emulated
it that you'd have no doubt about which company made it.  (M$ All Over!)

> PS: Win CE seems to have more and more interesting programms.

Not in my experience, it seems to me to be ugly and slow, with
almost a complete lack of software -- but that is another story which
if I got into I would be flamed from here to hell.

Sorry to burst your bubble.....

Ian Butler
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Did you guys see the IBM PC110 ? It's 6.2 x 4.4 x 1.3 ! and it runs
WIN95 ! in VGA ! who needs Windows CE !

http://www.pocketcomp.com

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Someone told me to look at:

ftp://207.245.67.67/site/graphiti/t_c20.zip

Can anyone verify?  My connection is too slow.
--sp

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Has anyone had any knowledge about, or experience with the Motorola Power
14.4k modem?
_____
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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Gavin Hui wrote:

> Has anyone had any knowledge about, or experience with the Motorola Power
> 14.4k modem?
Yup.  Got it.  Works.  Paid about $53 for it at www.surplusdirect.com.

I used it to send out my daughter's birth announcement from the recovery
room about an hour after the event ( I dialled into my shell account and
did it in pine).

Only problem I had was that I had to turn the password off on my cell
phone when using it with the modem.


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     where?

     Helmut in Colorado


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Did you guys see the IBM PC110 ? It's 6.2 x 4.4 x 1.3 ! and it runs
WIN95 ! in VGA ! who needs Windows CE !

http://www.pocketcomp.com

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Do you know of a utility that would force 320x200 om the HP200LX?
I'm trying to load Autocad R10, and the screen looks like two halves of
an interlaced screen, one on each side, when I run Acad set up for CGA.

David

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  Back when I built a lot of remote control cars the 'knowledge' was that
if you completely drain a battery over a prolonged period and then do a
'trickle' charge, the memory would be reduced or abolished.
  Unfortunately these manipulations were part of the charger you would buy
for the car's battery packs (5 to 8 sub-C batteries).  These chargers
can recharge packs in 15 minutes or 'trickle charge' them over 14
hours.  The difference comes in the mAmps used for the re-charge.
  I suspect that if someone really is having trouble with an excessively
fast drain that fully discharging the NiCd's (say in a flashlight
overnight) and charging them with a charger which (unlike most now)
purports to charge over a period longer than 4 hours (say 8-14) would be
the way to 'reclaim' the batteries.
  In this same vein, I don't plug in my adapter (12v, 500mA, Radio Shack
#273-1652C, $9.99, 1.5"W x 2.5"H x 1.5"D) until I get a low battery signal,
thus reducing memory effects.
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On 1997-08-19 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt

 HP>What is the web URL and what is it called?

Sorry about giving wrong information earlier. The notes can be found on
Jorgen Wallgren's site (not Murray Barton's site):

        http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm

Regards,

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At 11:15 PM 8/18/97 -0400, Ken Moore wrote:
> I want to compliment D&A customer support for helping me with this task.

  Ken, did you contact them via email?  If so, what address did you use?

  I sent a email message to support@dasoft.com (as suggested in their web
page) a couple of days ago with a few Post/LX questions (and a couple of
suggestions) and haven't even gotten an ack back yet to let me know they got
the message.  Is there some better address to use for Post/LX questions?

        ... JLS
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I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.

Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?

Regards

Michael

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If  they are complete units ie "shrink wrapped" with books, accessories
etc., How much do you want for 2 of them?

                                                                John
Pierce

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>
> Any ideas from the gang?
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Tom, thanks for releasing your great program!  I'll still send my card in
when I get a chance.   One question though:  Does this mean that the
features that are still disabled are so permanently?  (since you said you
don't have time to process registrations). :-(

Domingo

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I checked the URL, and downloaded a copy of Turbo "C" 2.0. Looks
complete but I would be concerned about licensing. As I already have a
copy I do not need the download. I have also see copies up on the MIT
Eddie site. I wonder if Borland has released it to Public Domain??

Stephen Souza
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> Someone told me to look at:
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> ftp://207.245.67.67/site/graphiti/t_c20.zip
>
> Can anyone verify?  My connection is too slow.
> --sp
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Hello folks.  I have a new job in Florida (long way from Michigan!)
teaching strings at a private school.  I have a need to count the number
of lessons that are given during the year (I am contracted to give a
fixed number), and I wonder if there is a way to do it automatically with
the built in database, without having to remember the correct number in
the sequence at any given time.  Also I need to automatically stamp the
time and date on the same record, plus fields for other information.  I do
believe that such a thing might be possible with Lotus, but it's been too
long since I used it, plus I need to put in a lot of text data, plus I
don't know whether it would work better to make each student one record,
or each lesson one separate record (this was my original idea, since I
need to produce reports based on several factors).
        My confusion also lies in the fact that I need reports on how all
the students are doing at any given time, and how one student is doing
from the begining of the year up to now.   I have an idea on how to do
some of this on the built-in database, but I am affraid it might not be
powerful enough for the job.  But I am not a Lotus head either.

Any help with this difficult task will be appreciated!

Domingo

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I am wondering if 1stACT!-DOS might be a better way to go than ACT!-LX.  It is 1/2 the price
and MIGHT provide a more conventional interface.

Comments?

--- On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:08:46 -0400  Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@SYMPATICO.CA> wrote:

>I use Act! for 95/100/200 (it's all the same) with Act for W95, ver 3.0.
>
>By itself, Act for HP is too idiosyncratic to be useful, but it is fully
>synchronizable with 3.0. And therein is its main and only advantage: it
>allows you to carry all your contacts, appointments, todos, etc. What's the
>big deal? Once you've synchronized, Act on desktop is amazingly powerful.
>
>For example, when I invoice someone, it automatically creates a to-do for a
>month later, and for another month later, for that contact: "Did he pay?" A
>click and a nasty reminder letter is generated. Tons of different features.
>Of course, there is lots of software that can do these things, but the two
>Acts allow you to be in control of all of this on a little HP - and with no
>extra software and no employees to bother with!
>
>----------
>| From: mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>

>| Does anyone have any experience in using the following on a 100/200LX:
>|
>|  - ACT! for 95LX
>|  - ACT! for DOS
>|
>| Any opinions on whether they are worth acquiring?
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>
> Thanks to all respondents. Seems several of you use Turbo C (which is
> largely unavailable unless I get lucky at the swap meet), and some have
> proposed PCC which I've now tried on a sample class problem and it
appears
> that PCC is not ANSI compliant.
>
> Some others mentioned Power C from Mix Software (a $20 compiler)...but
> didn't venture any opinion on it....does anyone use this or have any
> comments on it?
>
> - Longden
>

I use Power C quite a bit and like it - its reasonably fast and pretty
uncomplicated. However, this (and probably any other) C compiler that will
run on the HP is NOT likely to be ANSI compliant (Mix does not claim to
be). Since they were probably all developed pre-ANSI standard.

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> Is it possible to emulate or simulate a vga display for the 200lx?
> Lots of software are only made for VGA drivers and won't work on the
> 200lx only because of that it would be great to be able to use vga
> software. May be we would need a function to change colors like cgahlp
> but whcih can change colors even when the prog is loaded (like we can
> change contrast with on+ or on- or on/).

the problem is that most DOS software writes directly to the standard VGA
registers and video memory locations. The HP DOES support the VGA register
set as far as required for CGA compatibility, which is almost all the way.
Unfortunately, the HP design uses the memory where a standard VGA display
memory bank would go as system ROM space, and they claim this is
non-programmable. The meaning is that a DOS application that tried to work
with a VGA controller would instead be writing to the HP ROM.

On the newer Intel processors, this wouldn't be a problem, because we could
trap illegal writes and reroute them to where the frame buffer actually is.
However, the 186 does not have this capability, so we would have no way of
knowing when your DOS VGA app actually tried to write to the screen. And if
we don't know when it writes, we can't take the data it was trying to write
and massage it.

So, the short explanation is... not possible given hardware constraints.

As you might be aware, EZShow manufactures a PCMCIA VGA card and I'm
currently working with some people in the HP200 community to get a driver
going. But, because of the limitations above, I don't think it will be
possible to take any old DOS program and use it with my card. Instead,
custom apps will have to be written to take advantage of the card's
capabilities.

In those rare instances where the DOS software used the BIOS (or its own
pluggable interface) to talk to the display, something can be done.
However, in keeping with the tradition started by Lotus, practically
everybody writes direct.

rick

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>
> Would it be possible to run win CE software on the 200lx.
> I think it would be necessary to have a emulator or something like that
> but i'm not sure it's possible. Anyway any idear is welcome...
>

Not only would you need to emulate one of SH3 /MIPS processor instruction
execution, you would have to duplicate the entire 2MB support ROM (with the
Win32 API - about 10,000 entry points). All this on a processor that's
running at 25% the clock rate of the processors its emulating.

It would be cheaper and faster just to go out and buy a WinCE machine.

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> I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
> best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
> one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
> machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.
>
> Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?
>
I have both the Velo and the 320LX, and my code runs about 3 times faster
on the Velo. Admittedly, this is an unscientific evaluation (one one app -
mine), but the difference is, I think, in the processor. Velo uses MIPS
(along with NEC). All the other guys so far use the SH3 from Hitachi.

rick

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At 09:53 PM 8/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> I have access to 25 pcs of HP95LX new from HP and wonder if there is a
>> market for them as parts or whole units?!
>
>There was an article in a recent QST (ham radio magazine) about using the
95LX
>as a controller for an Icom HF radio. The author stated that the 95LX was not
>readily available any more, but used ones could be found for about $150. You
>might try your luck on the ham radio USENET group: rec.radio.swap and see if
>you can drum up some interest.
>
>Mitch
>
Used ones go for $50 or less. Depends on condition and if there are manuals.
Just sold one recently for $60 with cable and manuals.  A bit used ... I'm
looking for a real clean one.

Mark

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> Date          Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:20:57 PDT
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> From          Francois-Xavier Albouy <albouy@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Subject       VGA to CGA converter
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Is it possible to emulate or simulate a vga display for the 200lx?
> Lots of software are only made for VGA drivers and won't work on the
> 200lx only because of that it would be great to be able to use vga
> software. May be we would need a function to change colors like cgahlp
> but whcih can change colors even when the prog is loaded (like we=
 can
> change contrast with on+ or on- or on/).
>
I agree. There is some great software out there which can run
perfectly well on the palmtop but for the display mode. I have been
looking around for utilities that would do the trick, but as yet I
haven't found a thing.

As for changing contrast on the palmtop, someone suggested that you
can switch off grey shade and turn to black/white mode to make
using  software that presupposes a colour screen easier on the eye.
In fact I would like to have a b/w screen when surfing the web in
Lynx. But the way to do this (on / +) doesn't seem to work for me.
Has anyone a suggestion?

Thanks

Frank

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On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Rick Kozak wrote:
> >
> > Some others mentioned Power C from Mix Software (a $20 compiler)...but
> > didn't venture any opinion on it....does anyone use this or have any
> > comments on it?
>
> I use Power C quite a bit and like it - its reasonably fast and pretty
> uncomplicated. However, this (and probably any other) C compiler that will
> run on the HP is NOT likely to be ANSI compliant (Mix does not claim to
> be). Since they were probably all developed pre-ANSI standard.

Mix's current webpage (http://wwwmixsoftware.com/product/powerc.htm)
describes the compiler as:

----------->
Power C is an ANSI compatible C compiler for DOS that requires very few
resources. It can be installed in less than 1 Meg of disk space and will
run on any PC that runs DOS 2.0 or later. It is compatible with CPUs from
the 8088 through the latest Pentiums. Power C combines high-performance
software with superb documentation, all for less than the price of most C
books alone. It's your fast route to fast programs without the fast bucks.
<-----------

It sells for $19.95 and some posters have commented on their excellent
documentation. Very tempting, tho I have access to Turbo C++ 1.0 (from a
disk included in my son's C programming book) and possibly Turbo C 2.0.

Thanks again for all the excellent feedback (from everyone).

Looking forward to a nice summary of these compilers by someone who knows
"C" better than I.

- Longden

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I will know today on the 95LX's condition and so forth. Will post a message
at that time.

JR

At 09:40 AM 8/20/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 09:53 PM 8/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>> I have access to 25 pcs of HP95LX new from HP and wonder if there is a
>>> market for them as parts or whole units?!
>>
>>There was an article in a recent QST (ham radio magazine) about using the
>95LX
>>as a controller for an Icom HF radio. The author stated that the 95LX was
not
>>readily available any more, but used ones could be found for about $150. You
>>might try your luck on the ham radio USENET group: rec.radio.swap and see if
>>you can drum up some interest.
>>
>>Mitch
>>
>Used ones go for $50 or less. Depends on condition and if there are manuals.
>Just sold one recently for $60 with cable and manuals.  A bit used ... I'm
>looking for a real clean one.
>
>Mark
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I remember having read somewhere that the palmtop display can be
switched form grey shade to black and white. This is helpful when
using certain types of software that presuppose a colour screen.

I myself would be happy to turn B/W mode on when surfing the Web in
Lynx. The screen would be much more readable.

I tried the Ýon + /¨ option but it doesn't seem to work.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Frank

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John,
Yes, the support e-mail for D&A is as you stated <support@dasoft.com>
I have found them to be very supportive. I don't know why you haven't experienced the same.
You might also try the following:

info@dasoft.com or their website www.dasoft.com.

Ken Moore
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John Ramos wrote:
>
> I will know today on the 95LX's condition and so forth. Will post a message
> at that time.
>
> JR
>

I'd like one, if the price is right. I've got a '200, but I can think of
several uses for the '95 in my ham setup. (just in case you are gauging
interest levels).

-Bryan   73 DE N9GBJ

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Philip, why don't you give us some more info about Easyshare (price,
availability, how much diskspace it eats, ect.)...
---
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
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"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx

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>
>
>Date:    Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:35:32 -0700
>From:    Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
>Subject: Re: WANTED! ---> Reading Netscape email on HP
>
>I have a DOS software agent that helps me move the files to my HP.
>Currently the agent doesn't do much--
>
>it just changes to the proper directory and starts the connectivity
>kit
>program and makes the connection to the LX200.
>
>That way I don't have to remember all the keystorkes needed.  I plan
>to
>automate the process further.
>
>
> The DOS software agent program is EasyShare, which is really quite
>powerful.  Easyshare lets you integrate applications
>
>that weren't originally intended to work together.   You can "scap"
>data
>off one screen and plug it into another
>
>screen on another application.  I used EasyShare to help me move 200
>names and addresses from a flat file
>
>into the HP phone book.  I tried converting the comma delimited file
>to
>the phone book, but the conversion
>
>wouldn't work and I got no error messages in the log file.  So as a
>workaround, I just had Easyshare read the file and
>
>"type" the info into the phone book for me automatically.
>
>
>

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I've been using Pocket Quicken Connect for a month now and just wanted to
let others know how well it works.

It works with Quicken 6 perfectly, keeps transactions up to date and I
haven't noticed any collisions date, amount or anything else wrong. It adds
a sync button directly to your desktop Quicken. It's $29.95 from Quicken
and they have excellent support if you have questions, in fact they call
you back and ask how the service was!

I tend to be somewhat scatterbrained and was losing track of checks, it
works great.

JR

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>I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
>best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
>one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
>machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.
>
>Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?

I start to get worried about the world when I see more and more Win=
 CE
topics on a HP 200LX e-mail list! Anyway, as long as you want to have=
 a Win95
behavior in your pocket- it doesn't matter which brand you
buy- Microsoft is there! Soon we will have Win CE in all our Consumer
Electronics- "Oh, shit! Now I have to reboot my washing machine- it=
 hanged! But
it doesn't matter if I loose my laundry- I have a backup of it (nowadays=
 I
always buy at least 2 pair of all my clothes)! Yesterday morning, my=
 toaster
didn't want to recognize my bread when I inserted 2 slices- talking=
 about
"plug and eat"! So I called Microsoft support line and they asked me=
 to
reboot the toaster, insert the "repair bread" and do a "scanbread".=
 If this
doesn't help, they said that I have to upgrade to MS Win CE V232.001.
Unfortunately this version have a different new user interface, BUT=
 it support
high fibre bread!!!"- is this our future? :)

Regards,

Jorgen


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You might try the "mono8025" command or "mode bw80". I'm not up on video
modes, so I'm not sure what the difference is (maybe someone else here can
elaborate).

You run either of these in DOS before starting your app.

- Longden

On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Frank Ubachs wrote:

> I remember having read somewhere that the palmtop display can be
> switched form grey shade to black and white. This is helpful when
> using certain types of software that presuppose a colour screen.
>
> I myself would be happy to turn B/W mode on when surfing the Web in
> Lynx. The screen would be much more readable.
>
> I tried the Ýon + /¨ option but it doesn't seem to work.
>
> Any ideas?

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There must be something wrong about that pc it's to cheap, to nice, and
seems to have every thing i need!!!!
What are the advantages of the win ce or hp 200lx against this kind of
pc. I can olny see the battery point.

                        FX


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what my manual for Power C says (in the fine print) is:

"Power C supports the latest features of the proposed ANSI C standard"

and this is dated 1993. It doesn't look like the code has changed since
then. Maybe they actually are FULLY compliant, but I'd check carefully if
that's the main requirement.

My apologies if my nitpicking has misled.

rick

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Subject:      Re: Cellular-Compatible Modem for 200LX?
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:35:53 PDT."
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Bob Aldrich wrote:

>         I have a 14.4 modem I got from Luigi        it costs $20.00 plus
> shipping and he even sends it out for a free trial. When I got it I was
> suprised to see that it is also cellular ready, although it doesn't have
> a separate cellular cable. I haven't had time to try to set it up and
> connect over it, but it is brand new in the box for only $20.00!  He is
> at:
>
> Luigi Giovanetti
> 617-747-3903
> lgiovanetti@pdapad.com

I visited their web site (http://www.pdapad.com).  It is devoted to
Newton Message Pads, but some of the handful of products they offer are
approriate to us.  Their news section has pointers to user groups,
including the web site for the Boston PDA Users Group
(http://home.earthlink.net/~jsw/bospdaug.html).

They list a Centennial brand 14.4 modem, but for $25.  Is this what you
bought?  The Centennial is also what Mr.  Giovanetti has been pushing
in netnews (mostly through the Newton newsgroups) for the past 3 or 4
months, for $25.

> So give him a call or e-mail him. I saw a message sometime back on the
> list about it so e-mailed him and he sent it out to me right away.

I squirrel away messages about modems, and have no record of this offer.
Perhaps you saw it in c.s.p?

                                -Jim.

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<<I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.

Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?>>

The answer is: it depends. What are your needs? Do any of the existing
palmtops suit your needs today? Many long time palmtop PC users are
disappointed by the lack of  capabilities in the first generation of WinC=
E
machines that exist in the 200LX. While they are open minded that WinCE
devices MAY develop into a useful platform IN THE FUTURE, they are not
willing to spend their money today for an immature product.  Others are
early adopters and are willing to go through the pains because the produc=
t
fits their needs today and do some things better than the 200LX.

The Velo and the 320LX are the top-of-the-line WinCE machines today. The
Velo has some interesting features and major limitations (i.e. doesn't
print, smaller screen, modem limited to what's built in, proprietary memo=
ry
cards). Some people have expressed a preferrence for the Velo over the
320LX which has a bigger screen, can print and has two card slots (i.e. o=
ne
for modem and one for memory).

Bottom line, if the existing software on the WinCE machines accomplish yo=
ur
needs today then go ahead. We'd even be willing to sell you one <g>.  But=

if it doesn't meet your needs maybe you should wait, or explore other one=
s
such as the 200LX, the Toshiba Libretto or the IBM Thinkpad 110. If you
have more questions, or if I can help you sort through your needs feel fr=
ee
to give me a call at 714-559-1142.

     Carl Merkle
     Shier Systems & Software
     www.shier.com

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Bill Childers wrote:

> I've been experimenting with a wireless communications solution for my
> 200.
>  I recently picked up a Megahertz Allpoints card, and while it works
> great,
> the service isn't cheap.  I have a Nokia 2120 dual mode phone, and I
> was
> wondering if anyone out there knows of a cellular compatible modem
> that'll
> work on the 200 and my Nokia.  I also have a Megahertz cell phone
> modem
> (28.8), but is draws too much current to work in the 200.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Childers

Bill,

I'm using an Apex 14.4 in my 200lx and Motorola Micro with no problem.
Their part # for your 2120 is 910-43942.  If I recall correctly, I
generally get a connection at 7200 bps which is enough for what I do
when I need wireless.  YMMV.

-clark

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On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Rick Kozak wrote:
> what my manual for Power C says (in the fine print) is:
>
> "Power C supports the latest features of the proposed ANSI C standard"
>
> and this is dated 1993. It doesn't look like the code has changed since
> then. Maybe they actually are FULLY compliant, but I'd check carefully if
> that's the main requirement.
>
> My apologies if my nitpicking has misled.

Thanks, and ANSI compliance is important (for me an least). I'll be sure
to give it a good look-see. No apologies needed...your nitpicking is
appreciated over hasty generalizations.

BTW, the integrated debugger and the library source are sold separately
($19.95 and $10, respectively). Do you have an opinion as to whether these
are worth getting?

- Longden

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I had loaded diet 1.44 a while back, and installed the TSR with diet
-z.  Since then, I had to wait several seconds for the Application
Manager Ý&...¨ to start, and then several seconds after each operation
within the App Manager.  This was anoying.  (But not anoying enough to
email about)

Then today, I decided it was time to install closeflr.  I did so, and
it worked great.  In the documentation, it talks as if removing the
c:\_dat\appmgr.dat file is no big deal.

Well now(after using closeflr), the app manager is not only slow, but
beeped several times after I started it up.  This was just too anoying
for me to bear, so I decided to try moving c:\_dat\appmgr.dat out of
the way.  I closed the App Manager and moved c:\_dat\appmgr.dat to
a:\appmgr2.dat with filemgr.  I then started up App Manager, and
whaala!, NO BEEPS, NO DELAYS.  This is great!  I still can run diet
-z, etc.

I also used memo to look at the a:\appmgr2.dat and found that I could
see all of the paths of everything I had in there.  I now can go back
and reconfigure the App Manager back to the way I had everything layed
out before.

So, to summ it all up, it looks as if you have problems with the App
Manager, just close App Manager and move your c:\_dat\appmgr.dat to
some other name.  Then go back and reconstruct it.

Has anybody else seen similar situations?


Doug

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I believe that I have the latest version of Power C, purchased last winter.

It is PC v2.2.0 and the copyright is dated 1993.


--- On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:23:59 -0700  "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Rick Kozak wrote:
>> what my manual for Power C says (in the fine print) is:
>>
>> "Power C supports the latest features of the proposed ANSI C standard"
>>
>> and this is dated 1993. It doesn't look like the code has changed since
>> then. Maybe they actually are FULLY compliant, but I'd check carefully if
>> that's the main requirement.
>>
>> My apologies if my nitpicking has misled.
>
>Thanks, and ANSI compliance is important (for me an least). I'll be sure
>to give it a good look-see. No apologies needed...your nitpicking is
>appreciated over hasty generalizations.
>
>BTW, the integrated debugger and the library source are sold separately
>($19.95 and $10, respectively). Do you have an opinion as to whether these
>are worth getting?
>
>- Longden
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On 1997-08-20 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt

 HP>Soon we will have Win CE in all our
 HP>Consumer Electronics- "Oh, shit! Now I have to reboot my washing
 HP>machine- it hanged! But it doesn't matter if I loose my laundry- I
 HP>have a backup of it (nowadays I always buy at least 2 pair of all
 HP>my clothes)! Yesterday morning, my toaster didn't want to recognize
 HP>my bread when I inserted 2 slices- talking about "plug and eat"! So
 HP>I called Microsoft support line and they asked me to reboot the
 HP>toaster, insert the "repair bread" and do a "scanbread".

Hey Jorgen this is really good stuff! Perhaps you could consider a
alternative career in comedy. This is as good as anything Dennis Miller
could cook up... :-))

BTW: Is there a Scanbread version for DOS? <vbg>

Regards,

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Subject:      200LX for sale or trade for 320lx

Form: Memo
Text: (49 lines follow)

I know everyone will think I am crazy for accepting
a trade for a lowly 320lx, but I no longer need all
of the extras that come with using the 200lx.

I have factory 4meg 200lx that I would like to sell or
trade for a 320lx if anyone is interested.

it is less than 5 months old an still under HP warranty(extendable by 2 yrs
for $89)
It is in excellent condition with no modifications.

This is what i will include in the sale/trade

200lx 4 meg
12v AC adapter
2 PC to HP cables
HP PC connection software+Intelisync
AT&T 14.4 cellular/landline modem with cables(motorola flip, RJ-11)
WWW/LX Web browsing software(registered)
POST/LX Mail and USENET reader(registered)
Magnigy screen magnification utility(registered)
other freeware/shareware software
All original manuals packaging

If you are interested email me @ chris-hudak@usa.net
or this email address.

If you would like to contact me by
phone I can be reached at (937)257-3085 x304
from 7:30a-4:30p est and at (937)256-5669 after 5pm est.



Thanks,


Chris Hudak
Logtec Inc.
MIS Engineer
Air Force PDSM Program Office
Bus.(937)257-3085
Fax.(937)257-5881
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How can i compile a multiple file program with tc 2.0

        thanks
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Jeff Malka wrote:

> ->A few weeks ago some people were discussing the Japanese software
> ->package (PAL) for project management on the palmtop, called PJT2.

I think I was not yet on the mailing list when this discussion happened.
Where can I get PJT2 to take a look?

thanks,
-joe

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Domingo,
Congratulations on your new job in Florida. Regarding your database question:
Using the LX built-in database is very versitile and I think a wise choice for your application based on your description.
Suggestion:
Create a field for the date of your lesson. This way you will be able to sort your lesson list by date. Also, by having a date field, you can have a "subset" (press F6) that will only show records that have an entry in that field. This will allow you to periodically check to see how many "lessons" you have in your database. You do this by pressing F6 to call up a subset that you define  and looking at the bottom of the Datacard (HP100LX doesn't have a Datacard). At the bottom of the Datacard you will see a number like: 4/88 indicating that you are looking at record 4 of 88 records in that subset.
The possiblities are virtually endless. Experiment. Have fun.
As an instructor, I use the LX database a lot and very rarely feel limited. This is coming from someone who teaches Microsoft Access.
Good luck,

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At 13:34 19/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>Would it be possible to run win CE software on the 200lx.

Not even remotely possible. First, processor emulation would be needed.
Normally when you want to emulate a processor, you need a much more
powerful one, and in the case you mention it's just the opposite.

Moreover, the Windows CE system services would have to be emulated too. Too
much for our 200LX.

Regards. Nacho.

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At 13:20 19/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>Is it possible to emulate or simulate a vga display for the 200lx?
>Lots of software are only made for VGA drivers and won't work on the
>200lx only because of that it would be great to be able to use vga
>software. May be we would need a function to change colors like cgahlp
>but whcih can change colors even when the prog is loaded (like we can
>change contrast with on+ or on- or on/).

And what about screen resolution ? (vga is 640x480 and we have only 640x200).

Regards. Nacho.

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Also visit:  alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++


Regards,
Qman

At 01:28 PM 8/20/97 PDT, you wrote:
>How can i compile a multiple file program with tc 2.0
>
>        thanks
>                F.X.
>
>"The hardest thing to open is a closed mind..."
>-----------------------------------------------
>albouy@hotmail.com
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/peaks/2220/
>Francois-Xavier Albouy
>EPF (France)
>ETS (Canada)
>Studient in system engineering,
>looking for a trainning prog.
>from april 1998 to august 1998.
>
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Well gee whiz, it's time to get into the classic 200/Wince debate
again....

My opinion: 200LX.  The reason is is that there are thousands of
software titles for a DOS 5 machine, whereas there are next to
none for Wince.  Winces are more expensive and doesn't get the
gas mileage (6 weeks) of the 200lx.  Wince machines generally
have worse displays than the 200, although they do have back-
lighting.  The 200 has a large, _knowledgable_ user group where-
as the Wince usergroup (with a few exceptions) have to take their
thumb out of their mouth to use the touch screen. ;)

Also, the 200 uses a static operating system.  The 200 uses DOS 5
which is far more stable than Wince.  5 a flawless OS, the only one
I know of that was made by Microsoft.  So buying the $700
Wincetop looks appealing until you find yourself spending $100
every 2-3 months because, as Jorgen said, your version won't
support high fiber bread.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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> I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
> best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
> one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
> machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.
>
> Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?

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No difference between bw80 and bw8025.  The latter ensures you
are in 25-line mode, which is immaterial with CGA (which only supports
25 lines anyway.)

In graphics mode you can switch from greyscale to dithered by hitting
On-*.  That will also change the properties of a text mode screen.

Also, you can hit On-=3D to change the position of the shift annunciators
if it bothers you.

Ian Butler
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> You might try the "mono8025" command or "mode bw80". I'm not up on vide=
o
> modes, so I'm not sure what the difference is (maybe someone else here =
can
> elaborate).
> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Frank Ubachs wrote:
>
> > I remember having read somewhere that the palmtop display can be
> > switched form grey shade to black and white. This is helpful when
> > using certain types of software that presuppose a colour screen.
> >
> > I tried the Ýon + /¨ option but it doesn't seem to work.

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Verified.  Seems awfully illegal tho.  Isn't it a violation of the
license agereement _and_ copyright law?

Ian Butler
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> Someone told me to look at:
>
> ftp://207.245.67.67/site/graphiti/t_c20.zip
>
> Can anyone verify?  My connection is too slow.

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Based on what I read in the MINIX FAQ it would seem this could run on
the 100 or 200LX.
Has anybody tried this?

Marshall Erling

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Personally I use the 200 for organization. I use Pocket Quicken with Pocket
Quicken Connect (dumped on WinCE), and most of the other 1 touch keys (not
on WinCE units). I have a few goodies installed like a ThinFax w/4 meg, I
don't browse the Internet, Newsgroups, or anything else that requires
graphics speed. I used to travel, I had a notebook for that. If I had to do
that again, I'd get a PC110 or a Libretto. I think there is great use for
the LX200 without doing anything fancy. WinCE machines (Toys) aren't event
close to a Cheap pocket organizer $69 variety.


At 06:03 PM 8/20/97 PDT, you wrote:
>Well gee whiz, it's time to get into the classic 200/Wince debate
>again....
>
>My opinion: 200LX.  The reason is is that there are thousands of
>software titles for a DOS 5 machine, whereas there are next to
>none for Wince.  Winces are more expensive and doesn't get the
>gas mileage (6 weeks) of the 200lx.  Wince machines generally
>have worse displays than the 200, although they do have back-
>lighting.  The 200 has a large, _knowledgable_ user group where-
>as the Wince usergroup (with a few exceptions) have to take their
>thumb out of their mouth to use the touch screen. ;)
>
>Also, the 200 uses a static operating system.  The 200 uses DOS 5
>which is far more stable than Wince.  5 a flawless OS, the only one
>I know of that was made by Microsoft.  So buying the $700
>Wincetop looks appealing until you find yourself spending $100
>every 2-3 months because, as Jorgen said, your version won't
>support high fiber bread.
>
>Ian Butler
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
>200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>
>
>"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself
>
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>> I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
>> best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
>> one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
>> machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.
>>
>> Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?
>
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Subject:      Re: Opinions on ACT! ??
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mdstockr wrote:

> > Does anyone have any experience in using the following on a 100/200LX:
> >  - ACT! for 95LX
> >  - ACT! for DOS
> > Any opinions on whether they are worth acquiring?
> > Thanks,
> > Michael


> I briefly used ACT! for the 95LX a few years ago.  As I recall, you
> could only have 1 database of contacts which was unacceptable for me at
> the time.  Otherwise, it seemed ok.  I have not tried it on a 100/200
> platform.  Should work ok.
>
> Jim Smith

  If you use ACT! for Windows already on a desktop, then you will already
know if the program suits your requirements. If you require the features,
but diecreet portability, then the HP version will be helpful, but need
some getting use to.
  I have decided that I will use it on my HP as its full potential is not
truly tapped as yet. It can for one, reduce the appointment book/to do list
to things not related to your contacts as all these tasks are already in
ACT!
  There are some limitations that seem to have no reason...the screen for one!
All you see is a screen that fits between the F3 and the F8 marks when
running on the HP. Because of this you have to scroll through 6 screens
for 1 contact info.
  Sorry I could not provide you with more pros and cons. Maybe when I
discover any other snag or benefit I'll post to the list.

Best regards,



F



Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

Trinidad, West Indies.

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>>HP>Soon we will have Win Ce in all our
>>HP>Consumer Electronics
Snip
>BYW: Is there a Scanbread vesion for DOS? <vbg>

I guess that HP> Ian Melville et al were just trying to take a rise
out of Win Ce's attempts to get a slice of the action (Wed, 20 Aug
1997) by telling us that it's not worth the dough, even if you get it
on HP!

(Hire Purchase, for those of you who've never sunk to that)

A toast to that idea!  And thanks for the laugh.

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   >Does anyone have any experience in using the following on a
   >100/200LX:
   >- ACT! for 95LX
   >- ACT! for DOS
   >Any opinions on whether they are worth acquiring?
   >Thanks,
   >Michael

I have tried both versions of ACT!. The palmtop version came with my HP
200LX when I purchased it 2nd hand & I have since purchased the full
dos version in a sale for $20. My opinion is that the inbuilt software,
when used well & linked with Buddy & macros, does the job for me just
as well.

Steven English

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A friend of mine who happens to do major business with HP, called me the
other day and said he had access to about 250 LX320's @ $550 ea asked if I
wanted any. I said I thought the price was too high, about dealer cost.

Another friend (end user) called me awhile ago and asked if I had any of
the units cheap. Told him of the $550 deal and he chuckled...Office Depot
or OfficeMax, he couldn't remember has an ad running for $469-489 retail.

HP is dumping these things. I guess a few Execs must have tried them and
said what a piece of S..T, what does it do?

Well...It's Microsoft! It has to be good!?

Compaq (Casio) 4 meggers down to $269! Boy, I swear, this OS didn't live
very long.

I guess I leave now, I have to hit 1 key and get some work done!

JR

P.S. WinCE does great WAV files!!!!!! Waving Bye Bye!

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Jim Gonzalez wrote:

> >
> > Luigi Giovanetti
> > 617-747-3903
> > lgiovanetti@pdapad.com
>
> I visited their web site (http://www.pdapad.com).  It is devoted to
> Newton Message Pads, but some of the handful of products they offer are
> approriate to us.  Their news section has pointers to user groups,
> including the web site for the Boston PDA Users Group
> (http://home.earthlink.net/~jsw/bospdaug.html).
>
> They list a Centennial brand 14.4 modem, but for $25.  Is this what you
> bought?

Yes, same one. I actually haven't paid him yet, I thought he said one
month to try it out and pay, but I just noticed yesterday it's one week,
so I better get busy. I've had it about two weeks and he wants 28.00
with shipping.

It says it's cellular ready too, but to check with your cell phone
manufacturer for the connection kit.

>
> > So give him a call or e-mail him. I saw a message sometime back on the
> > list about it so e-mailed him and he sent it out to me right away.
>
> I squirrel away messages about modems, and have no record of this offer.
> Perhaps you saw it in c.s.p?
>
I saw it right here on the 200LX list. Someone commented that he had
one, and it was working fine on his lx. I haven't made mine work yet,
but I tried it on my times2 upgraded machine, maybe that one doesn't
like the card. Someone on the list mentioned that some pcmia cards
didn't work with the upgraded clock chip. I wouldn't know for sure about
that.

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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The reason for this is because ACT!-LX was written for the 95LX with its limited display.

--- On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:37:28 -0400  Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@CARIB-LINK.NET> wrote:

>  There are some limitations that seem to have no reason...the screen for one!
>All you see is a screen that fits between the F3 and the F8 marks when
>running on the HP. Because of this you have to scroll through 6 screens
>for 1 contact info.

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Hi fellow palmtoppers:

I have recently moved back to using appt from a custom to-do database.
One irritant that I have is that completed to-do's are located on the
day they are done. This makes it hard to locate exactly when you
completed a task. Has anyone written a to-do database and some marcos
to move the completed ones to a .gdb for archiving? This would make it
easier to use appt for me.=20


Dave Bengtson

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Hiroko and Kiyoshi AKIMA hav kindly translated the original Japanese
documentation that came with PRJT200, the project management software for
the HPLX.

I have enclosed this translation with my attempt to figure out the program
in a zipped file called PROJECT.ZIP which I have sent to Mitch for
inclusion in the SUPER archives (http://www.palmtop.net/).  Those
interested should be able to download it from there soon.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>


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For Sale:

HP 200lx Palmtop 1MB
15MB Flash-Ram Card
2400 Zoom POCKET modem
 Runs on internal 9v battery.
Connectivity Pack from HP
2 Extra Serial Cables
1 Modem Cable
1 Serial Cable (Converts palmtop to standard 9pin serial)
Flexible Palmtop Light
2 Sets of Lithum Batteries

I've recently purchased a notebook computer and no longer require the power
and flexibility that my hp200 offeres me. It's in fine condition and works
quite well. It can still be warrentied by HP for 2 years for $89. The Zoom
PocketModem still has 6 years on it's 7 year warrenty. I have all the
packaging
for all the parts as well as the HP. I'm asking $400 obo for the whole
package
shipped Fedex NextDay COD to any US destination. Please e-mail me at
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1) This sounds like a fun and useful project!  Does anyone know
what the structure of the file used by the appt. program?  Or
how to find out what the structure is.  Is it documented anywhere?
If so a program could be written to archive the completed
tasks directly.

2)  Related question.  Does anyone know if a memory resident
program can run concurrently with the built-in apps?
(DOS actually is multitasking you know!  It just that it must
be programmed.  There is a DOS multitasking
interrupt! )


At 02:23 AM 8/21/97 GMT, David Bengtson wrote:
>Hi fellow palmtoppers:
>
>I have recently moved back to using appt from a custom to-do database.
>One irritant that I have is that completed to-do's are located on the
>day they are done. This makes it hard to locate exactly when you
>completed a task. Has anyone written a to-do database and some marcos
>to move the completed ones to a .gdb for archiving? This would make it
>easier to use appt for me.
>
>
>Dave Bengtson
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There are many fine DOS programs that you can run on
the 200LX, which you just don't have access to with
the WINCE machine.  That alone is reason enough to
give strong consideration to a 200 LX.    Examples:

    Project Management
    Contact Management
    Musical Ear Training
    Japanese Language Instruction (writing as well as conversation)
    Vertical browsing, book marking of big etext files (electronic text).
    Use of a Newton full-size keyboard if you want it.
    The AWK Programming Language
    Agent Software for automating operations. (EasyShare)

    TurboC from Borland  (you can learn to program or actually develop
programs on the 200 LX.
       (That's out of the question for WINCe machines)

    PDC Prolog (a 5th generation language) for artificial intelligence
programming.
    Built-in Lotus 1-2-3 (that excels Excel on the WINCE machines in power)
    Built-in Quicken
    A program to dial phone numbers.
    A program search across memos, appointments, to do lists.
    Ability to interface with other devices, like electronic scales.


Owning a 200 LX give you access to a group of knowledgeable programmers who
will
often develop small utilities to customize the 200LX to your needs and
desires.
Example:  one 200LX user says he wants to have completed to-do items
archived in a separate database.  The built-in application does
not do that.  But soon, because he posted the idea, some developer will come
up with a utility to do that--if it hasn't already been done.





At 11:32 AM 8/20/97 GMT0BST, you wrote:
>I'm thinking of buying a palmtop, and so far it seems to me that the
>best buy for the future would be a WINCE machine (whether
>one like it or not is another matter...). I am mainly looking at two
>machines, the VELO1 from Phillips and the HP320LX.
>
>Are there any reasons NOT to buy any of these two machines?
>
>Regards
>
>Michael
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When I was in Japan, I heard that most new cars come with GPS units
built-in.  My woman's uncle had a great unit.  It talked to you
(in Japanese of course) and the accuracy *seemed* better than 50-100
meters.  When it said turn left, the street to turn on seemed to
be exactly right there!  When you passed a gas station, there
was the gas station icon on the map opposite the little moving
arrow representing our car.



At 04:36 PM 8/19/97 +0200, remsoft wrote:
>All GPS-units without external Antenna lost signal in forest terrain. I
have Garmin GPS II Plus 12 channel and it work very good in open terrain
inside the car. In forest or mountain You must have external antenna.
>
>Second problem: 100 meters position accuracy. It is idea civil GPS.
>GPS system has two system
>1. military system with great accuracy
>2. civil system with signal disturb and position accuracy about 50-100 m.
It is enough for many application i.e. Yachting or road navigation.
>You may enhance accuracy of Your GPS-unit by DGPS receiver but i dont know
if GPS 45 can work with DGPS receiver.
>
>regards
>Jurek Najda
>remsoft@gryf.com.pl
>
>----------
>> Od: larry soo <lars@GLOBALSERVE.NET>
>> Do: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>> Temat: GPS, Palmtop & Rallies, was: Ramplings
>> Data: 18 sierpnia 1997 23:56
>>
>> Stephen wrote:
>>
>> >If you use a GPS unit it will give you a position, heading and speed
>> >report that can be logged and replayed later. This would be portable and
>> >would be able to move to any vehicle without special wiring to the
>> >speedometer.
>>
>> The problem is twofold:
>>
>> 1) GPS accuracy varies and a 100m variance (at the most) can cause
>>    some navigational problems in a rally where many turn-offs are
>>    clustered together.
>> 2) Rallies are held in mountainous and heavily forested terrain.  My
>>    Garmin GPS45 lost signal several times.  The newer 12-channel units
>>    would've worked better but still not well enough.
>>
>>
>> ...lars
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I don't usually advertise but for the past week or so I've been working
with the folks at Banana Programming to help them to optimize a great
little comm program for my 200LX. It's called Banana Comm Lean. It's got
automatic Z modem downloading, and is very lean and mean and best of all
it's much, much, much quicker than the built in DataComm program. It is
shareware but the author has conveyed to me that if he can get 10 people
to register the Lean version he will join our list and try to make
whatever changes he can to really optimize it for the LX palmtops. It's
available on the SUPER site. I'm sure that there are other people such as
myself that use their HP's to access UNIX shell accounts and BBS's such
as I do. Anyway, I just thought I'd pass this along to the list. I'm
receiving no financial gain just the ability to access the Net much more
quickly!

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Looks great, although a little bulky.
Can it be upgraded to DOS?

At 09:38 PM 8/19/97 -0500, Ron Levesque wrote:
>Did you guys see the IBM PC110 ? It's 6.2 x 4.4 x 1.3 ! and it runs
>WIN95 ! in VGA ! who needs Windows CE !
>
>http://www.pocketcomp.com
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TSRs don't always follow recommended notification standards and
are not always friendly with each other so you have to be
careful about running more than one TSR at a time.

There are programs designed to help manage TSRs and
make them co-operate, however.  PCMag offered some
several years ago as I recall.

At 08:10 AM 8/19/97 -0700, Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>Nope, haven't tried SC yet, but I'm planning on buying it if the price
>is right.
>My corruption occurred when I had a TSR lock up my machine.  At the same
>time I was running another TSR that speeds up the database routine.
>The combination was lethal.. :-(  It killed my reoccuring appts.
>I'm not using either of those TSRs now.  If I use SC, I'm going to close
>all
>databases before swapping.  I'm once bitten twice shy.
>
>Marshall
>
>> ----------
>> From:         Jeff MalkaÝSMTP:malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM¨
>> Sent:         Monday, August 18, 1997 3:56 PM
>> Subject:      Re: TECH: lx databases, x2 upgrade.  WANT: best price on
>> PCcards
>>
>> ->On a related note... My databases have corrupted several times and
>> I've
>> ->corrected the
>> ->problems with GARLIC for the most part, but some corruption appears
>> to
>> ->exist.  On occasion
>> ->I'll see random characters in an appt, or addrs.  Is there some way
>> I
>> ->could perhaps export and
>> ->then re-import the file to clean it up?
>>
>> Are you using Software Carousel?  I have never had corrupted files in
>> 4
>> years use of a 100LX.  When I bought a 200LX and started using SC for
>> the
>> palmtop, I got several corrupted files.  Took off SC and no more
>> corrupted
>> files.
>>
>> Another reason for corrupted files is if you let your battery levels
>> get
>> too low and the HP dies on you.  Non rechargeable alkalines tend to
>> dip
>> suddenly in power towards the end.
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jeff Malka    email address:   malkajef@orthohelp.com
>>                   ***** WEBSITES******
>> *Orthopaedic Surgery     http://www.orthohelp.com/
>> *HP/LX Palmtop             http://www.orthohelp.com/hp.htm
>> *OS2 Page                     http://www.os2bbs.com/malka/os2.htm
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At 09:19 AM 8/12/97 -0400, David A Hart wrote:
>Philip, why don't you give us some more info about Easyshare (price,
>availability, how much diskspace it eats, ect.)...

Jim Holton of Adisoft says:

"EasyShare is sold by Adisoft.  Adisoft was not acquired by ADP, but
rather ADP acquired Adisoft's lead product Expense Report!.  Adisoft
still holds the copyright on EasyShare and given the renewed interest is
willing to sell it to palmtop users.  Adisoft has been in business since
1989.

"Adisoft will be launching a WEB site at "www.adisoft-inc.com" during the
first half of September and will make EasyShare available via the WEB.

"Pricing:   Developer's Edition (Shrink Wrapped)  $240.00
           Developer's Edition (WEB Delivery)    $ 90.00
           Runtime Only                          $ 90.00

"EasyShare is a DOS software agent system.  Running as a TSR it occupies
26 to 52K of memory and can be loaded in high memory."

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===> Update: you can get a free trial of EasyShare via the web.
If you like it and want to use it, the cost is $90.

Adisoft contact number: 510-483-3556
Email:   jholton@ix.netcom.com  (Jim Holton)

NOTE: Jim is currently on vacation and out of the country.

Addendum:  EasyShare is designed to make it way for you to create agents
without having to program.  You fill out a table using a program
called Creator.  Creator guides you and protects you from
making syntax errors.  It takes a little getting used to, but once
you get the hang of it, it works quite well.  Creator produces
a source code file and an agent definition file.  When you
activate an agent you give a command like:

    ES2 movetodo.def

This tells EasyShare (version 2) to load the agent defintion
file called "movetodo.def" into memory.

Easyshare now sits in memory and watches the time, the screen and
what is entered from the keyboard.  When some predefined
event occurs, the agent will spring into action and start
issuing keystrokes (or reading/writing text files).  You can activate the
agent
with a hotkey or when a certain time is reached, or when
a certain string appears on a text screen.

An EasyShare agent can also be fired from another DOS
program or batch file.

EasyShare can also help to control mainframe programs
when used with programs like Attachmate's EXTRA for DOS.











>---
>Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
>Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
>"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
>Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx
>
>On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:00:01 -0400 Automatic digest processor
><LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> writes:
>>There are 21 messages totalling 944 lines in this issue.
>>
>>
>>Date:    Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:35:32 -0700
>>From:    Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
>>Subject: Re: WANTED! ---> Reading Netscape email on HP
>>
>>I have a DOS software agent that helps me move the files to my HP.
>>Currently the agent doesn't do much--
>>
>>it just changes to the proper directory and starts the connectivity
>>kit
>>program and makes the connection to the LX200.
>>
>>That way I don't have to remember all the keystorkes needed.  I plan
>>to
>>automate the process further.
>>
>>
>> The DOS software agent program is EasyShare, which is really quite
>>powerful.  Easyshare lets you integrate applications
>>
>>that weren't originally intended to work together.   You can "scap"
>>data
>>off one screen and plug it into another
>>
>>screen on another application.  I used EasyShare to help me move 200
>>names and addresses from a flat file
>>
>>into the HP phone book.  I tried converting the comma delimited file
>>to
>>the phone book, but the conversion
>>
>>wouldn't work and I got no error messages in the log file.  So as a
>>workaround, I just had Easyshare read the file and
>>
>>"type" the info into the phone book for me automatically.
>>
>>
>>
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At 22:32 19/08/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Someone told me to look at:
>
>ftp://207.245.67.67/site/graphiti/t_c20.zip
>
>Can anyone verify?  My connection is too slow.

Verified. Seems equal to the one I own.

Regards. Nacho.

P.S: Has anyone some place to 'look' for TC++ 1.0 ?

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Philip Seyer wrote: ...accuracy ... better than 50-100 meter.

Its right.

New Garmin GPS III unit has accuracy:
- position: 15 meters (49 feet) RMS
  1-5 meters (3-15 feet) RMS with GARMIN GBR 21 DGPS (optional).

Accuraccy may degradation to 100m 2DRMS under the United States =
Department of Defense-imposed Selective Availability Program.

regards
Jurek

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You might also want to note that built-in WinCE applications are not the same as the Win95
versions.  The vast majority of the features have been stripped from them.

The programs listed below are full featured.  Plus, you have the option to choose what programs
you want to run.

Add-on programs for WinCE are very few at this point.

--- On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:54:46 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

>There are many fine DOS programs that you can run on
>the 200LX, which you just don't have access to with
>the WINCE machine.  That alone is reason enough to
>give strong consideration to a 200 LX.    Examples:
>
>    Project Management
>    Contact Management
>    Musical Ear Training
>    Japanese Language Instruction (writing as well as conversation)
>    Vertical browsing, book marking of big etext files (electronic text).
>    Use of a Newton full-size keyboard if you want it.
>    The AWK Programming Language
>    Agent Software for automating operations. (EasyShare)
>
>    TurboC from Borland  (you can learn to program or actually develop
>programs on the 200 LX.
>       (That's out of the question for WINCe machines)
>
>    PDC Prolog (a 5th generation language) for artificial intelligence
>programming.
>    Built-in Lotus 1-2-3 (that excels Excel on the WINCE machines in power)
>    Built-in Quicken
>    A program to dial phone numbers.
>    A program search across memos, appointments, to do lists.
>    Ability to interface with other devices, like electronic scales.
>
>
>Owning a 200 LX give you access to a group of knowledgeable programmers who
>will
>often develop small utilities to customize the 200LX to your needs and
>desires.
>Example:  one 200LX user says he wants to have completed to-do items
>archived in a separate database.  The built-in application does
>not do that.  But soon, because he posted the idea, some developer will come
>up with a utility to do that--if it hasn't already been done.
>
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           8/21/97 5:52:31 AM EDT
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        I think Lotus 1-2-3 is your best bet Ýfrom the software built into
ROM.¨ A third party database should be able to do it, but that would take up
a ton of (scarce?) space on your HP 200LX.
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The PC110 originally came with IBMPC Dos ver 7.0 in Japanese. No I do
not have one but have read the FAQ file on it.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Seyer ÝSMTP:pseyer@BEST.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 1997 12:32 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: IBM PC110
>
> Looks great, although a little bulky.
> Can it be upgraded to DOS?
>
> At 09:38 PM 8/19/97 -0500, Ron Levesque wrote:
> >Did you guys see the IBM PC110 ? It's 6.2 x 4.4 x 1.3 ! and it runs
> >WIN95 ! in VGA ! who needs Windows CE !
> >
> >http://www.pocketcomp.com
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At 13:28 20/08/97 PDT, you wrote:
>How can i compile a multiple file program with tc 2.0

Create a text file containing the names (with path if not in current
directory) of the files part of the project. You can do it from the IDE
editor. Save it as FOO.PRJ:

FOO.C
FILEIO.C
C:\MYLIB\SIO.LIB
D:\MORE\DATA.OBJ

Then, in the IDE, go to "Project" -> "Project name" and select that file as
the project file. When you compile an exe, all the files in the project
files will be used.

Regards. Nacho.

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On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:
>
> P.S: Has anyone some place to 'look' for TC++ 1.0 ?
>
I got mine from the disk included with a book (something like Learning C
in 21 days, by someone named Perry (last name)). The book was sold at
Fry's Electronics.

- Longden

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Here is a good reason for HP to keep producing HP200LXs, A very
interesting tool for any network manager

        The Pocketwatch Pocket Protocol analyzer.
        as the add says consider the convenience of a network analyzer
that fits in your pocket.


             http://www.guesswork.com

I can not justify the purchase price for myself but would love to get
more information on this little unit.

Stephen Souza
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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:
> >
> > P.S: Has anyone some place to 'look' for TC++ 1.0 ?
> >
> I got mine from the disk included with a book (something like Learning C
> in 21 days, by someone named Perry (last name)). The book was sold at
> Fry's Electronics.

That version is virtually useless, as it cannot compile programs and has no TCC.EXE.  The
only thing it's good for is running programs you type in.  You'll need another version to
actually compile the programs.
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Just want to make sure I am using the latest version of ACT! for
Palmtop, I have version 1.10 (USA). Is that the most current? Thanks in
advance.
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The current version of ACT! HP is 1.1.1.

Symantec is offering a free upgrade at their website:

        www.symantec.com


--- On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:23:11 -0400  Alan Neves <aneves@NETREACH.NET> wrote:

>Just want to make sure I am using the latest version of ACT! for
>Palmtop, I have version 1.10 (USA). Is that the most current? Thanks in
>advance.
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I owned a PC110 for a couple of weeks. Cool but the keyboard was unuseable
and the color screen drained the batteries in less than an hour. I could only
recommend it as a toy, unfortunately.

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->The current version of ACT! HP is 1.1.1.
->Symantec is offering a free upgrade at their website:
->        www.symantec.com

Went there but could not find it.  Where specifically is it?


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After having done some reading in various newsgroups and by following
the debate here on HPLX for some time, I guess I'm convinced not to
buy a Wince machine, as I first thought I would. It now looks like
the most suitable machine for my needs would be a Psion 5 (8Mb).
However, as always before buying new (and expensive) things, I would
appreciate some more critical (positive and negative). Someone
with experience of a Psion5 that would like to share their general
thoughts?

Regards/
Michael

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From Symantec's home page click:

(FTP Index)->(ACT!)->(Version 1.x)

The actual download page is:

http://service1.symantec.com/DISCUSS/SUPPORT/files.nsf/all?OpenView&Start=1&Count=1000&Expand=2.1
.1#2.1.1

--- On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:14 -0400  Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> wrote:

>->The current version of ACT! HP is 1.1.1.
>->Symantec is offering a free upgrade at their website:
>->        www.symantec.com
>
>Went there but could not find it.  Where specifically is it?
>
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very good equipment, compatible with other PSION5

regards

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> Data: 21 sierpnia 1997 18:07
>=20
> After having done some reading in various newsgroups and by following
> the debate here on HPLX for some time, I guess I'm convinced not to
> buy a Wince machine, as I first thought I would. It now looks like
> the most suitable machine for my needs would be a Psion 5 (8Mb).
> However, as always before buying new (and expensive) things, I would
> appreciate some more critical (positive and negative). Someone
> with experience of a Psion5 that would like to share their general
> thoughts?
>=20
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<< Does anyone know
what the structure of the file used by the appt. program?  Or
how to find out what the structure is.  Is it documented anywhere?>>

All or most of the built-in application file structures are documented.
Thaddeus (1-800-373-6114) has a developer kit with it, and their CD Rom h=
as
it, as do the libraries in HPHAND on Compuserve.

     Carl

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Hello everyone,

A few days ago I posted a message for a Cassiopeia for sale that a
friend of mine has.  Someone has offered my friend $240 for it.  If you
are willing to pay $250 it's yours.  I'm reminding you that it's a new
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>There must be something wrong about that pc it's to cheap, to nice,=
 and
>seems to have every thing i need!!!!
>What are the advantages of the win ce or hp 200lx against this kind=
 of
>pc. I can olny see the battery point.

You are right- it's something wrong with it! 50 min of running on the=
 battery.

Jorgen



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> HP>Soon we will have Win CE in all our
> HP>Consumer Electronics- "Oh, shit! Now I have to reboot my washing
> HP>machine- it hanged! But it doesn't matter if I loose my laundry-=
 I
> HP>have a backup of it (nowadays I always buy at least 2 pair of all
> HP>my clothes)! Yesterday morning, my toaster didn't want to recognize
> HP>my bread when I inserted 2 slices- talking about "plug and eat"!=
 So
> HP>I called Microsoft support line and they asked me to reboot the
> HP>toaster, insert the "repair bread" and do a "scanbread".
>
>Hey Jorgen this is really good stuff! Perhaps you could consider a
>alternative career in comedy. This is as good as anything Dennis Miller
>could cook up... :-))

MS's products makes it easy to choose in which mode you should be in-=
 either
you cry or you just laugh at it- in order to not become insane. :)
>
>BTW: Is there a Scanbread version for DOS? <vbg>
>
Unfortunately the toasters are only available with Win CE. You see-=
 Microsoft
bought all the toaster manufacturers in the world. However, I am in=
 a beta
test now for a Linux Toaster Emulator. Looks very promising- this morning=
 was
the first time I really got to eat my bread! Otherwise I mostly see=
 the error
messages on the display, such as "Bread Not Found!, Please Insert Bread=
 and
Try Again.".

Jorgen
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Regarding a "Todo Database": If you suscribe to the HP Palmtop Paper there was an excellent issue a while back entitled, "Getting Organized" (or something like that). The author of one article explained a custom-made todo database. I have designed one for myself fashioned after that article. I am a firm beleiver in the capabilities of the 200LX database. For those of you who don't know about the HP Palmtop Paper check out Thaddeus Web Site <http://www.thaddeus.com>. It is excellent. Back issues can be ordered.
Ken Moore

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> BTW, the integrated debugger and the library source are sold separately
> ($19.95 and $10, respectively). Do you have an opinion as to whether
these
> are worth getting?
>

I don't own either, so I can't comment directly. However, I've usually
managed to get by with printf's and DEBUG (I just checked, its in the HP
ROM) for DOS programming. As to the library... it depends on what you want
to do.

rick

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>
> BTW: Is there a Scanbread version for DOS? <vbg>
>

You know, it just strikes me as funny all this griping about Microsoft's
monopoly while using a DOS!!! based machine. Perhaps these darts might be
more safely thrown from a Newton?? :-)

rick

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On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 00:00:03 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

There are many fine DOS programs that you can run on
the 200LX, which you just don't have access to with
the WINCE machine.  That alone is reason enough to
give strong consideration to a 200 LX.    Examples:

>    Project Management
Can someone point me to the *BEST* there is? (apart from the Japanese one)

>    Musical Ear Training
And possibly this too.

>    Japanese Language Instruction (writing as well as conversation)
I know there is JReader, but what files do I need to get?

>    The AWK Programming Language
And what is this? (Sorry, never heard of it.)

>    Agent Software for automating operations. (EasyShare)
Some guy talked about this, but where can we find it?

Thanks for the info.
... I smashed a Window and saw... OS/2.

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Rick Kozak wrote:

> You know, it just strikes me as funny all this griping about
> Microsoft's
> monopoly while using a DOS!!! based machine. Perhaps these darts might
> be
> more safely thrown from a Newton?? :-)

Not anymore, with the new partnership between Apple and Microsoft.
Maybe a Psion?  But I have to say, I prefer DOS anyway.  <scoff  mode> I
don't think you could throw darts at ANYTHING from a NEWTON! </scoff
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Speaking of Windows CE, has anyone else heard that the next version of
Windows CE machines (if they survive that long) may include a machine
with an Intel 80x86 class processor?  I must say, I wouldn't be nearly
so anti-WinCE if you could ALSO run DOS programs on it.  Then the touch
screen, backlight, etc. start to look mighty tempting...

For the moment, I always have to chuckle when I see catalog ads with
Windows CE units that state "It's Windows 95 compatible!" in big
letters.  If "compatible" means "You can probably use some of your data
files on both machines," perhaps... :)

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I really wonder why you all keep on giving scornful comments to the new  generation.
To my way of thinking its something completely new not comparable with the 200LX.
Nearly everything what we all appreciate of our 100/200LX is not included.
It is something nice to wear like a brooch  - and what can you do with a brooch.
Nevertheless a lot of people buy such things and sometimes even pay more for it.
HP is simply serving a wider market.

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> HP>Soon we will have Win CE in all our
> HP>Consumer Electronics- "Oh, shit! Now I have to reboot my washing
> HP>machine- it hanged! But it doesn't matter if I loose my laundry-=
 I
> HP>have a backup of it (nowadays I always buy at least 2 pair of all
> HP>my clothes)! Yesterday morning, my toaster didn't want to recognize
> HP>my bread when I inserted 2 slices- talking about "plug and eat"!=
 So
> HP>I called Microsoft support line and they asked me to reboot the
> HP>toaster, insert the "repair bread" and do a "scanbread".
>
>Hey Jorgen this is really good stuff! Perhaps you could consider a
>alternative career in comedy. This is as good as anything Dennis Miller
>could cook up... :-))

MS's products makes it easy to choose in which mode you should be in-=
 either
you cry or you just laugh at it- in order to not become insane. :)
>
>BTW: Is there a Scanbread version for DOS? <vbg>
>
Unfortunately the toasters are only available with Win CE. You see-=
 Microsoft
bought all the toaster manufacturers in the world. However, I am in=
 a beta
test now for a Linux Toaster Emulator. Looks very promising- this morning=
 was
the first time I really got to eat my bread! Otherwise I mostly see=
 the error
messages on the display, such as "Bread Not Found!, Please Insert Bread=
 and
Try Again.".

Jorgen
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Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:

> I really wonder why you all keep on giving scornful comments to the
> new  generation.
> To my way of thinking its something completely new not comparable with
> the 200LX.
> Nearly everything what we all appreciate of our 100/200LX is not
> included.
> It is something nice to wear like a brooch  - and what can you do with
> a brooch.
> Nevertheless a lot of people buy such things and sometimes even pay
> more for it.
> HP is simply serving a wider market.

Yes, but the purpose of a handheld PC is (presumably) to use it.  To
assist you in getting things done more effectively.  To help you spend
less time doing things.  With jewelry, you know you're just buying
something that looks nice.  People expect to be able to _use_ a handheld
PC, and it has to be able to do _useful_ things.  Which, for the
majority of serious palmtoppers, the WinCE units don't.  Plus, a piece
of jewelry will retain its value, and eventually become a rare antique
worth much more than you paid for it.  A WinCE machine will drop in
value until you'll be able to find them at garage sales for five
dollars.  Think about it: A handheld calculator purchased in the 1960's
ran hundreds of dollars.  Today they're thrown away as worthless,
outdated relics.  If you can't use them, they're really only a few
dollars worth of plastic, silicon, metal and glass.  Whereas an ounce of
gold purchased in the 1960s has retained its value quite well.

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You exactly described the advantage of jewelry to a WinCE.
But there is no danger for a customer, because a serious palmtopper will never buy a WinCE. I for myself could never be conWinCEd, although I'm owner of a 200LX only since 2 months. But I'm sure there are a lot of people who will not miss anything with their new WinCE. Let those people be happy !

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Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:

> I really wonder why you all keep on giving scornful comments to the
> new  generation.
> To my way of thinking its something completely new not comparable with
> the 200LX.
> Nearly everything what we all appreciate of our 100/200LX is not
> included.
> It is something nice to wear like a brooch  - and what can you do with
> a brooch.
> Nevertheless a lot of people buy such things and sometimes even pay
> more for it.
> HP is simply serving a wider market.

Yes, but the purpose of a handheld PC is (presumably) to use it.  To
assist you in getting things done more effectively.  To help you spend
less time doing things.  With jewelry, you know you're just buying
something that looks nice.  People expect to be able to _use_ a handheld
PC, and it has to be able to do _useful_ things.  Which, for the
majority of serious palmtoppers, the WinCE units don't.  Plus, a piece
of jewelry will retain its value, and eventually become a rare antique
worth much more than you paid for it.  A WinCE machine will drop in
value until you'll be able to find them at garage sales for five
dollars.  Think about it: A handheld calculator purchased in the 1960's
ran hundreds of dollars.  Today they're thrown away as worthless,
outdated relics.  If you can't use them, they're really only a few
dollars worth of plastic, silicon, metal and glass.  Whereas an ounce of
gold purchased in the 1960s has retained its value quite well.

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Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:

> You exactly described the advantage of jewelry to a WinCE.
> But there is no danger for a customer, because a serious palmtopper will never
> buy a WinCE. I for myself could never be conWinCEd, although I'm owner of a
> 200LX only since 2 months. But I'm sure there are a lot of people who will not
> miss anything with their new WinCE. Let those people be happy !

Good point.  Fortunately, the kind of people that would not miss anything with a
WinCE unit are probably not the kind of people who subscribe to this mailing
list.
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm disappointed by HP lately.  I was
looking forward to the successor for the 48GX calculator, and what do they
produce?  The 38 series.  A toned-down version designed to "compete" with other
low-grade calculators.  Then I was looking forward to the successor to the
200LX, and what do we get?  The 300 series, another toned-down versioned
designed to "compete" with the new trend in handheld computing.  If HP isn't
careful, they'll lose the customers that used to by HP products because they
were the best, and instead get customers who buy HP products because that
happened to be the brand sitting on the shelf.  Which might be what they are
trying to do, but it's not good for those of us who've been buying HP products
for years...

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Is it just me, or does anyone else read the word "Todo" as used in the 200LX and
immediately think of Dorothy's dog from the Wizard of Oz?

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In a message dated 97-08-21 16:04:50 EDT, David N Sargeant write:

the responses will tell, but imo, its just you.          8¬)

<<
 Is it just me, or does anyone else read the word "Todo" as used in the 200LX
and
 immediately think of Dorothy's dog from the Wizard of Oz?
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Actually, it sounds like a minor case of OZmosis.

--- On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:09:36 -0400  "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> wrote:

>In a message dated 97-08-21 16:04:50 EDT, David N Sargeant write:
>
>the responses will tell, but imo, its just you.          8¬)
>
><<
> Is it just me, or does anyone else read the word "Todo" as used in the 200LX
>and
> immediately think of Dorothy's dog from the Wizard of Oz?
>  >>
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Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:

> the responses will tell, but imo, its just you.          8¬)

Oh, great.  Thanks a bunch.  Now I feel like a freak!  :)

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Affirmative, l do agree. From this side there may danger raising up!

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Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:

> You exactly described the advantage of jewelry to a WinCE.
> But there is no danger for a customer, because a serious palmtopper will never
> buy a WinCE. I for myself could never be conWinCEd, although I'm owner of a
> 200LX only since 2 months. But I'm sure there are a lot of people who will not
> miss anything with their new WinCE. Let those people be happy !

Good point.  Fortunately, the kind of people that would not miss anything with a
WinCE unit are probably not the kind of people who subscribe to this mailing
list.
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm disappointed by HP lately.  I was
looking forward to the successor for the 48GX calculator, and what do they
produce?  The 38 series.  A toned-down version designed to "compete" with other
low-grade calculators.  Then I was looking forward to the successor to the
200LX, and what do we get?  The 300 series, another toned-down versioned
designed to "compete" with the new trend in handheld computing.  If HP isn't
careful, they'll lose the customers that used to by HP products because they
were the best, and instead get customers who buy HP products because that
happened to be the brand sitting on the shelf.  Which might be what they are
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> Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:
>

 Then I was looking forward to the successor to the
> 200LX, and what do we get?  The 300 series, another toned-down versioned
> designed to "compete" with the new trend in handheld computing.  If HP isn't
> careful, they'll lose the customers that used to by HP products because they
> were the best, and instead get customers who buy HP products because that
> happened to be the brand sitting on the shelf.  Which might be what they are
> trying to do, but it's not good for those of us who've been buying HP products
> for years...
>
To all the long waiting list for HP, to stand up with a serious
successor to the LX 200, I have to advice looking on the Psion 5. It has
a lot of the LX 200 features missed in previous versions of Psion, while
at same time, it brings long awaited improvements of the screen (large,
backlit and pen sensitive), keyboard (real touch tipe, notebook stile),
speed (32 bit apps and a strong CPU though only clocked at 18 MHz), OS
(looks more like upgrade LX 200 than Psion 3/3a)etc.

One has not to be scared by the lack of Internet access (as WinCE's) as
Psion 3/3a already have such a package and the  5 doesn't have it only -
YET....(a matter of time).

Also the idea of having the PCMCIA modem in a separate adaptor, sounding
at first so to say...not so smart, is very very smart when you can use a
33,6 PCMCIA modem for 1 - 2 Hrs with the 4 AAs of the adaptor. Another
part to carry...., not exactly, as with the LX 200/ 300 you may have the
PCMCIA modem inside, but you need to connect it to the wall outlet with
an AC adaptor . At the end, the Psion solution, while different, is at
least not worse ! Adding to it a US Robotics/Megaherz X-plug modem with
no need for carrying a line cable, and the Psion outsmarts the "all
inside" architecture.

I know..I know..we are all LX users, but well..well..at least Psion 5
deserves a serious second look if HP continues to patronize us with
stupid toys...

Saar Avigour
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              <486BB624629@defiance.mmu.ac.uk>

"J.Jaderholm" <J.Jaderholm@MMU.AC.UK> wrote:

> After having done some reading in various newsgroups and by following
> the debate here on HPLX for some time, I guess I'm convinced not to
> buy a Wince machine, as I first thought I would. It now looks like
> the most suitable machine for my needs would be a Psion 5 (8Mb).
> However, as always before buying new (and expensive) things, I would
> appreciate some more critical (positive and negative). Someone
> with experience of a Psion5 that would like to share their general
> thoughts?

First off, this is a mailing list for HP palmtops.  You'd have better
luck looking in the Psion-related newsgroups (comp.sys.psion.*) or the
Psion web sites  at http://www.psioninc.com (US sales, in Concord MA)
and http://www.psion.com/ (UK headquarters).

Before buying a 200LX, I considered and rejected the earlier Psion
models.  When I spotted the Psion 5 in the store the other day, I
played with it for a few minutes.  They have a nice set of built-in
applications.  The pen is especially nice for drawing.   The larger,
sliding keyboard is very usable.  They have dedicated "touch points"
for the applications, analogous to the 200LX's blue keys.

Unfortunately, as with the Series 3's, they insist on an optional
*external* PC Card slot (connected by a cable).  Dial-up communications
involves some sort of dangling external gadget (the other option is an
external modem).

The OS (EPOC) is proprietary, so 3rd-party applications are limited.
They supply a built-in BASIC-like programming language called OPL.
Otherwise, programming is meant to be done in C++ from a desktop
system, using a kit about which they offer little detail, Visual C++ to
build for testing in emulation and Gnu C++ to cross compile for final
installation.  Details can be found at:

    http://www.software.psion.com/EPOCWorld/services/techinfo/

On the other hand, our resident Java maven says that it is/will be
Java-capable (Write Once, Crash Many ;-).  He got that info from the PC
Magazine review of the Psion Series 5 at:

    http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/issues/1615/pcmg0050.htm

Having done the PC Card Shuffle, one major problem I see is that few PC
Cards devices will work with the Psion.  PC Card devices ship with x86
support software, requiring Card & Socket Services 2.1.  The Psion (and
the WinCE units, by the way) have RISC processors, and are limited to
whatever drivers are built in to the OS (flash and modem, typically).
Psion refers to their external PC Card slot as "PC Card Modem Adaptor",
so at least they're up front about the limitation.  If you anticipate
adding a printer port, SCSI adapter, data acq., etc., you're probably
out of luck.

                                -Jim.

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From David N Sargeant <istate@ANV.NET>
Subject Re: WTB: 200LX 2Mb
Date Fri, 15 Aug 97 19:40:54 +0000

predrag wrote:

> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with

Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to=
 go,
you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
expensive for the upgrade.

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My unit uses the pressure of the halves of the case holding the LCD panel
to hold gold fingers on the pcboard against similar gold fingers on
the end of the ribbon/pc-board cable going to the bottom part of the
LX.

THis does not use any adhesive, just the aforementioned pressure.

Is there another type of connector or connection to the LCD pcboard?
Just want to make sure that they are interchangeable...

thanks / mark

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Actually...
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Excellent, Have fun. I just got in another 2 meg, not as crisp as the 2 I
sent you, but very clean, belonged to a surgeon. With book, will include a
HP connectivity cable with this one. $250

John

At 01:59 PM 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
>The package arrived, hurray!
>
>Looks good, John.  I look forward to doing much more business with you!
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Marshall
>

Contact John Ramos
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 Who has the 8 meg upgrade? I tried Times2tech, but they don't show it. Is
it a secret mod?

Any info would be appreciated.

Don

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Date: Thursday, August 21, 1997 5:40 PM
Subject: HPLX-L: FWD from TSWI.COM



>>From David N Sargeant <istate@ANV.NET>
>Subject Re: WTB: 200LX 2Mb
>Date Fri, 15 Aug 97 19:40:54 +0000
>
>predrag wrote:
>
>> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
>> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
>
>Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
>with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go,
>you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
>expensive for the upgrade.
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It's still in beta.

Don Babcock wrote:

>  Who has the 8 meg upgrade? I tried Times2tech, but they don't show it. Is
> it a secret mod?

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You have to request it! Ask and you shall receive. Wallet emptying
instructions come with it.


At 07:03 PM 8/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Who has the 8 meg upgrade? I tried Times2tech, but they don't show it. Is
>it a secret mod?
>
>Any info would be appreciated.
>
>Don
>
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>From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, August 21, 1997 5:40 PM
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>
>
>
>>>From David N Sargeant <istate@ANV.NET>
>>Subject Re: WTB: 200LX 2Mb
>>Date Fri, 15 Aug 97 19:40:54 +0000
>>
>>predrag wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for HP 200LX, 2MB.  I am planing to upgrade speed and
>>> memory, so it should be newer unit (96-97).  Please e-mail me with
>>
>>Any 200LX (1mb or 2mb, older or newer) can be upgraded to a full 8mb
>>with the new 8mb upgrade.  So if that's the route you're planning to go,
>>you don't necessarily needa newer model.  Although it might be less
>>expensive for the upgrade.
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I'll post this again, I have NEW Varta (Made in Japan) NiMH batteries 1100
mils that can be used in the palmtops for $4.00 ea plus $3.00 Prioity mail.

If you want any, send a money order for whatever number plus mail to:

John Ramos
15260 Herring Ave
San Jose, CA 95124-3428
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        Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he heard
that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to CP/M-86. No
one (?) denies Microsoft's ability to BUY good stuff, and from time to time
they have actually developed good stuff in-house. Some variants on Word, and
Excel for example, have been powerful without being incredibly bloated and
causing large swapfiles bringing everything to a near standstill.
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      sears 8 meg flashcard

someone recently mentioned an 8 meg card available form sears for $140.  fyi,
it is currently on sale for $134.  not much of a savings, but it pays the
tax.

qualitative, it feels quite quick.  copying from c: to a: seems much quicker
than my hp or my viking ata card, and just as fast as my hp sram card.  just
got it today, and have not applied the stop watch.  (the ata cards are
stacked, which makes the comparison unfair.  still, it seems a lot faster)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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I'll post this again, I have NEW Varta (Made in Japan) NiMH batteries 1100
mils that can be used in the palmtops for $4.00 ea plus $3.00 Prioity mail.

If you want any, send a money order for whatever number plus mail to:

John Ramos
15260 Herring Ave
San Jose, CA 95124-3428
408-377-8096 PST

.

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Subject:      on line bible

is any one using the olb directly, and not with the "Hisword (tm)" program?
 i'm having trouble setting it up directly.  mm.bat doesn't look as it does
on the big computer, and only leads to error messages.

it rans perfectly on the big computer prior to copy, and the files run very
well under "Hisword (tm)"

i'm greatful to tom hoover for creating "Hisword (tm)", but it lacks a number
of features which are very important to me.  (reading & writing notes;
accessing definitions of strong's #'s)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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>>Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
>>originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
>>Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly

excelent Point!  micro$oft hates competition, and will but what ever it has
to.

(btw, excel is not my idea of a performance spreadsheet.  try quatropro.  i
run v.5.0 on my palmtop, and it is a much better program than my desktop
excel.)

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At 10:27 AM 20-08-97 PDT, Francois-Xavier Albouy wrote:
>There must be something wrong about that pc it's to cheap, to nice, and
>seems to have every thing i need!!!!
>What are the advantages of the win ce or hp 200lx against this kind of
>pc. I can olny see the battery point.

        Hp200lx is smaller than PC110. It can fit in your pocket. It have many DOS
base software support. It have big user group than PC110. I realistic in
diary use than PC110. Compare program which run on 200lx and windows on
PC110 which can do the same thing. 200lx run faster.

Fong

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I give up, is there a "Diary" for the LX200?

JR


At 10:48 AM 8/21/97 +0700, you wrote:
>At 10:27 AM 20-08-97 PDT, Francois-Xavier Albouy wrote:
>>There must be something wrong about that pc it's to cheap, to nice, and
>>seems to have every thing i need!!!!
>>What are the advantages of the win ce or hp 200lx against this kind of
>>pc. I can olny see the battery point.
>
>        Hp200lx is smaller than PC110. It can fit in your pocket. It have
many DOS
>base software support. It have big user group than PC110. I realistic in
>diary use than PC110. Compare program which run on 200lx and windows on
>PC110 which can do the same thing. 200lx run faster.
>
>Fong
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I send messages to the Group and I get bounce backs "Undeliverable" with a
trailer ".ar" is this the Arab Republics"?

JR

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Subject:      Re: sears 8 meg flashcard

> someone recently mentioned an 8 meg card available form sears for $140.  fyi,
> it is currently on sale for $134.  not much of a savings, but it pays the
> tax.
>
> qualitative, it feels quite quick.  copying from c: to a: seems much quicker
> than my hp or my viking ata card, and just as fast as my hp sram card.  just
> got it today, and have not applied the stop watch.  (the ata cards are
> stacked, which makes the comparison unfair.  still, it seems a lot faster)
>
> cordially,
>
> lynn m. cavendish
>
I picked up one of those a little while ago for my Ricoh RDC-2 camera and I
can state that it is faster than my old Sundisk 5v 2.5M and 10M cards. The
Ricoh is rather picky about flash cards, it even gives minimum write speeds
and such in the manual for flash cards. It wouldn't work with any of my
older flash cards but it works great with the card from sears. The one I
got is actually a compact flash card in an ATA adaptor, it works great in
my hp200lx as well as the Ricoh. Pretty good deal given that I have seen
compact flash cards listed for more than that without the pcmcia ata
adaptor.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
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Subject:      Re: ACT! for Palmtop latest version

Dos ACT! users need to read the info on the download page - seems the
upgrade makes palmtop version of ACT!  more compatible with the Windows
version and incompatible with the Dos version.  I downloaded it and went
back to read about it.  Glad I did - I have palmtop version 1.1 and Dos
version 2.11.

Never have committed to using it, but I am going to give it a try.

I also downloaded the Demo of ACT! for Dos 2.x  - it will give you a good
idea of how the program works - I noticed nice features I didn't know about
when I ran the demo.  It's a 119K self extracting exe - good way to see if
it has anything to offer for you.
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From:   mdstockr
Sent:   Thursday, August 21, 1997 10:14 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: ACT! for Palmtop latest version

>From Symantec's home page click:

(FTP Index)->(ACT!)->(Version 1.x)

The actual download page is:

http://service1.symantec.com/DISCUSS/SUPPORT/files.nsf/all?OpenView&Star
t=1&Count=1000&Expand=2.1
.1#2.1.1

--- On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:14 -0400  Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
wrote:

>->The current version of ACT! HP is 1.1.1.
>->Symantec is offering a free upgrade at their website:
>->        www.symantec.com
>
>Went there but could not find it.  Where specifically is it?
>
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>         Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
> originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
> Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he
heard
> that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to CP/M-86.
No
> one (?) denies Microsoft's ability to BUY good stuff, and from time to
time
> they have actually developed good stuff in-house. Some variants on Word,
and
> Excel for example, have been powerful without being incredibly bloated
and
> causing large swapfiles bringing everything to a near standstill.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------

So by this logic, if Bill Gates did not personally write the code, its not
really Microsoft's?
The version of DOS we're using (5.0) is well and truly Microsoft's
invention. The only thing left over from 1.0 is the name.

I'm no great fan of Bill's - my job requires that I try to keep up with his
legions of programmers - but give the guy credit. He hires well, markets
fabulously, and moves fast enough that noone can clone his stuff. That's
why he hates Java - it means that the API is given over to a standards body
and he can't keep making money by forcing everyone to upgrade at his pace.

rick

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> I don't own either, so I can't comment directly. However, I've usually
> managed to get by with printf's and DEBUG (I just checked, its in the HP
> ROM) for DOS programming.

I had a little play with DEBIG once .. a sort of on-the-fly disassembler?
But how do you use it for debugging? I'm using Turbo C with only the
command-line compiler .. this built in debugger could be useful.

Thanks

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Reminds me of the UNIX community, who apparently did not have
the dash/underscore key on their keyboards when they wrote the
documentation.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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I know it's been mentioned on the list before so I apologize for the
waste of bandwidth but could some one please let me know where to get the
"His Word" program. Thanks in advance!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF!!!! Palmtop advise- the future?

> So by this logic, if Bill Gates did not personally write the code, its not
> really Microsoft's?
> The version of DOS we're using (5.0) is well and truly Microsoft's
> invention. The only thing left over from 1.0 is the name.
>
> I'm no great fan of Bill's - my job requires that I try to keep up with his
> legions of programmers - but give the guy credit. He hires well, markets
> fabulously, and moves fast enough that noone can clone his stuff. That's
> why he hates Java - it means that the API is given over to a standards body
> and he can't keep making money by forcing everyone to upgrade at his pace.
>
> rick
>
You would be suprised how much of dos is still "left over" from 1.0, can
you say fcb (file control block)? Not that MS didn't improve and expand
on the original. Also, to be honest, MS did try to steer IBM to Digital
Research so they could make a dos for them but DR didn't want anything to
do with it so IBM came back to MS and said if you can do it the deal is
yours. So Gates being good at buying things found QDOS, bought the company
and the rest, as they say, is history.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Are any of these memory upgrades do it yourself?
Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Charles Berlinguette wrote:

> Are any of these memory upgrades do it yourself?

Times2Tech has a memory expansion kit.  But not for the 8MB upgrade.  Plus, if you don't
already have the daughterboard connector, you'll have to do some pretty difficult
soldering.--
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Not quite true. IBM went to Gates, who was developing CP/M software for
them, and asked him to develop an OS. Gates, not having any readily
available OS or the resources to develop one, SENT the IBM VP's to
Digital Research office telling them that there they could find a ready
made 8086 OS, which IBM to proceeded to contact.

Digital Research' owner and chief creator of the OS in question (Gary
Killdal) went out of town and left the discussion with the IBM exec's to
his wife. The IBM VP's first duty was to ask her to sign a standard
non-disclosure form (essentially said that Digital Research would never
divulge that IBM was there or what they were there for). She brought her
company attorney in and IBM had to bring in their attorneys to explain
it etc., etc. IBM finally got tired of it and said the hell with Digital
Research.

They went back to Gates and it was then that he bought the rights of
another operating system, not from Killdal and Digital Research but from
another programmer (a Seattle hardware hacker, Tim Patterson, who had
tired of waiting for an OS from, you guessed it, Digital Research) so he
wrote his own, essentially modeling it after what Killdal was
developing.

RB

R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net  wrote:

>Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
>originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
>Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he
>heard that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to
>CP/M-86.

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You can create a project and specify what files are included in
the project -- or you can use the include statement to
include other files into the main file.

As a program gets bigger and more complex, you
need to use the project method.


At 01:28 PM 8/20/97 PDT, you wrote:
>How can i compile a multiple file program with tc 2.0
>
>        thanks
>                F.X.
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Oh, man!  I should have bought the 320lx, then
I could have traded up!
That's quite a deal with all of the goodies that
come with it.


At 03:51 PM 8/20/97 EDT, you wrote:
>Form: Memo
>Text: (49 lines follow)
>
>I know everyone will think I am crazy for accepting
>a trade for a lowly 320lx, but I no longer need all
>of the extras that come with using the 200lx.
>
>I have factory 4meg 200lx that I would like to sell or
>trade for a 320lx if anyone is interested.
>
>it is less than 5 months old an still under HP warranty(extendable by 2 yrs
>for $89)
>It is in excellent condition with no modifications.
>
>This is what i will include in the sale/trade
>
>200lx 4 meg
>12v AC adapter
>2 PC to HP cables
>HP PC connection software+Intelisync
>AT&T 14.4 cellular/landline modem with cables(motorola flip, RJ-11)
>WWW/LX Web browsing software(registered)
>POST/LX Mail and USENET reader(registered)
>Magnigy screen magnification utility(registered)
>other freeware/shareware software
>All original manuals packaging
>
>If you are interested email me @ chris-hudak@usa.net
>or this email address.
>
>If you would like to contact me by
>phone I can be reached at (937)257-3085 x304
>from 7:30a-4:30p est and at (937)256-5669 after 5pm est.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Chris Hudak
>Logtec Inc.
>MIS Engineer
>Air Force PDSM Program Office
>Bus.(937)257-3085
>Fax.(937)257-5881
>email:hudakc@afcpo.wpafb.af.mil
>
>"Being a genius is just knowing what you're
>not very good at, and avoiding that subject"
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You can easily create your own custom diary database.
What fields do you want?  You can create the as needed.
If you find you need extra fields in your diary after
using it for a while you can add them later.

If you want an extra feature that you can't add yourself
you can talk about it on the this list, and
some hacker out their will probably create it for you.
,
Sample fields:

Date Entered:
Notes:
  -----------------------------------------------
|
|
|
-------------------------------------------------

Category:  ________________
Expense:   _________________
Miles traveled:
Ý ¨  Brainstorm worth reviewing.  <== checkbox


What's needed, here, I think is a way of
*printing out* the database in various ways.
For example, I want a listing of all
diary entries that contain brainstorms.


Anyone know where to get documentation
on the technical format of the built-in
databases?

At 07:24 PM 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I give up, is there a "Diary" for the LX200?
>
>JR
>
>
>At 10:48 AM 8/21/97 +0700, you wrote:
>>At 10:27 AM 20-08-97 PDT, Francois-Xavier Albouy wrote:
>>>There must be something wrong about that pc it's to cheap, to nice, and
>>>seems to have every thing i need!!!!
>>>What are the advantages of the win ce or hp 200lx against this kind of
>>>pc. I can olny see the battery point.
>>
>>        Hp200lx is smaller than PC110. It can fit in your pocket. It have
>many DOS
>>base software support. It have big user group than PC110. I realistic in
>>diary use than PC110. Compare program which run on 200lx and windows on
>>PC110 which can do the same thing. 200lx run faster.
>>
>>Fong
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Info on various programs that run on 200LX


Musical Ear Training -- see:  http://www.Ilovemusic.com


Japanese in a Breeze: Hiragan and Katakana (1990)

Eastword Software

P.O. Box 9025

Berkeley, CA  94709

(415) 848-3866


AWK comes with VR (the vertical etext reader program)

There is a good book on AWK:  "The AWK Programming Language"

Using this language you can easily search DOS txt files and

create reports.  For example if you have a file like this:


Ý      Name            Hourly Rate  Hours Worked    Dept.¨

      Tom Mix          10.55                  35
A200

      George Burns  200                    89                      A300

      Bob Jones        30                      45
A200


... you can produce reports that show things like



    Employees working more than 40 hours.

    Amount due each employee.

    List of employees in Dept A200

    Average Hourly rate.



   You can print out all lines that contain certain words, etc.


etc., etc.



ÝAWK is a weird name.

I think it comes from the author's names: Aho, Weinberger, and
Kernighan.¨



You don't have to compile the code!  Just write

a short program with a text editor and the AWK

engine will process it for you!


<italic>If you could export an HP database to a text file (which I

think you can)  you could write some interesting

reports using AWK.

</italic>

Stacey's Bookstore (if you have one near you)

is a good place to get the book.


Or you can get it from http://www.amazon.com

Here's their listing for it:


The Awk Programming Language

by Alfred V. Aho, Brian W. Kernighan, Peter J. Weinberger

                    Paperback, 210 pages

                    Published by Addison-Wesley Pub Co

                    Publication date: June 1, 1988

                    Dimensions (in inches): 9.22 x 6.26 x .44

                    ISBN: 020107981X

                    List: $32.23 ~ Our Price: $32.23

                    Availability: This item usually ships within 2-3
days.



Agent Software for automating operations. (EasyShare)

Adisoft contact number: 510-483-3556

Email:   jholton@ix.netcom.com  (Jim Holton)

NOTE: Jim is currently on vacation and out of the country.

Adisoft will be launching a WEB site at "www.adisoft-inc.com" during
the

first half of September and will make EasyShare available via the WEB.




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On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:21:42 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

I don't usually advertise but for the past week or so I've been working
with the folks at Banana Programming to help them to optimize a great
little comm program for my 200LX. It's called Banana Comm Lean. It's got
automatic Z modem downloading, and is very lean and mean and best of all
it's much, much, much quicker than the built in DataComm program. It is
shareware but the author has conveyed to me that if he can get 10 people
to register the Lean version he will join our list and try to make
whatever changes he can to really optimize it for the LX palmtops. It's
available on the SUPER site. I'm sure that there are other people such as
myself that use their HP's to access UNIX shell accounts and BBS's such
as I do. Anyway, I just thought I'd pass this along to the list. I'm
receiving no financial gain just the ability to access the Net much more
quickly!

Personally, I find the program a little too underpowered as compared to {COMMO}
(v7.0 which is optimised for the HP palmtop but needs an APLOAD program from
Compuserve. Can anyone pass me that?) and Qmodem. These two have proper
scrollback, X/Y/Zmodem protocols, good phonebooks and other little niceties here
and there. Bananacom is more for the simple user kind.

So, I think, for the lite user, BananaCom is OK. For people who want more configurability
(at the expense of disk space) Qmodem (which I use) and {COMMO} (Which I ALSO
use for a BBS on my palmtop, nice little novelty I use to SHOW OFF to them "wince-ing"
users.)

... Anyone ever wonders why MS calls their new palmtop OS WinCE? Simply coz they
want you to wince/squirme/puke/upgrade-once-a-quarter-syndrome whenever you
use it. My .0001 cents worth, if it is worth anything......
... OS/2 just broke all the Windows!

PGP Public Key Fingerprint = E3 90 4F AB 37 A0 33 F4  56 F1 91 36 9A C9 A2 39

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Just wondering,  has the HP 200 LX held its value fairly well?
Just go mine, so I don't know.


At 11:04 AM 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:
>
>> I really wonder why you all keep on giving scornful comments to the
>> new  generation.
>> To my way of thinking its something completely new not comparable with
>> the 200LX.
>> Nearly everything what we all appreciate of our 100/200LX is not
>> included.
>> It is something nice to wear like a brooch  - and what can you do with
>> a brooch.
>> Nevertheless a lot of people buy such things and sometimes even pay
>> more for it.
>> HP is simply serving a wider market.
>
>Yes, but the purpose of a handheld PC is (presumably) to use it.  To
>assist you in getting things done more effectively.  To help you spend
>less time doing things.  With jewelry, you know you're just buying
>something that looks nice.  People expect to be able to _use_ a handheld
>PC, and it has to be able to do _useful_ things.  Which, for the
>majority of serious palmtoppers, the WinCE units don't.  Plus, a piece
>of jewelry will retain its value, and eventually become a rare antique
>worth much more than you paid for it.  A WinCE machine will drop in
>value until you'll be able to find them at garage sales for five
>dollars.  Think about it: A handheld calculator purchased in the 1960's
>ran hundreds of dollars.  Today they're thrown away as worthless,
>outdated relics.  If you can't use them, they're really only a few
>dollars worth of plastic, silicon, metal and glass.  Whereas an ounce of
>gold purchased in the 1960s has retained its value quite well.
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>I know it's been mentioned on the list before so I apologize
>for the
>waste of bandwidth but could some one please let me know where
>to get the
>"His Word" program. Thanks in advance!

You can download HisWord at;
http://pobox.com/~thoover/hisword.htm/

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Yes, it did. Maybe the bare value for the special machine is going down, but this is easily compensated (with increasing tendency) by the advantage/profit you gain by using your little friend.

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Just wondering,  has the HP 200 LX held its value fairly well?
Just go mine, so I don't know.


At 11:04 AM 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Herrmann Frank Dr. wrote:
>
>> I really wonder why you all keep on giving scornful comments to the
>> new  generation.
>> To my way of thinking its something completely new not comparable with
>> the 200LX.
>> Nearly everything what we all appreciate of our 100/200LX is not
>> included.
>> It is something nice to wear like a brooch  - and what can you do with
>> a brooch.
>> Nevertheless a lot of people buy such things and sometimes even pay
>> more for it.
>> HP is simply serving a wider market.
>
>Yes, but the purpose of a handheld PC is (presumably) to use it.  To
>assist you in getting things done more effectively.  To help you spend
>less time doing things.  With jewelry, you know you're just buying
>something that looks nice.  People expect to be able to _use_ a handheld
>PC, and it has to be able to do _useful_ things.  Which, for the
>majority of serious palmtoppers, the WinCE units don't.  Plus, a piece
>of jewelry will retain its value, and eventually become a rare antique
>worth much more than you paid for it.  A WinCE machine will drop in
>value until you'll be able to find them at garage sales for five
>dollars.  Think about it: A handheld calculator purchased in the 1960's
>ran hundreds of dollars.  Today they're thrown away as worthless,
>outdated relics.  If you can't use them, they're really only a few
>dollars worth of plastic, silicon, metal and glass.  Whereas an ounce of
>gold purchased in the 1960s has retained its value quite well.
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        Actually, and very briefly before MS-DOS 2.0 was released, I did use
DOS 1.0. It was very primitive, and lacked even subdirectories. It was
designed to run on two-floppy systems with only the root directory on each
floppy. I am WELL aware that it is a far cry from the DOS 5.0 on our HP
200LXs. On the other hand, The first edition of the Deitel "Introduction to
Operating Systems" textbook states that DOS "under the hood" is really a cut
down UNIX Ýrightly or wrongly¨ and before Microsoft acquired DOS, they were
already the vendors of XENIX, a scaled down UNIX.

        I don't know much about the internals of e.g. DOS 5.0, but I think
that one might be able to defend the idea that the basic underlying concepts
include very little that was not to be found already in either QDOS ÝSeattle
Computing¨ or UNIX ÝAT&T.¨ Feel free to give Microsoft all the credit you
wish for marketing, but for Operating System design I don't think you can
point at DOS and give them much credit for originality with it.

        They DID, on the other hand, play a large part in the design of OS/2
1.0 through 1.2, though from version 1.3 onwards it has been IBM's baby,
with Microsoft formally relinquishing most of their rights to it Ýother than
the Windows Interface, and the excellent High Performance File System¨ in
return for a large payment, from version 2.0 onwards.
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Well well,
Some DOS commands might like the UNIX commands, however this doesn't =
make dos a unix like OS. Actually DOS doesn't contain much of what's =
really supposed to be in a complete OS except for file handling and file =
execution. There's no security which means you have to reboot every once =
in a while.

/Nils

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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: FLUFF!!!! Palmtop advise- the future?

        Actually, and very briefly before MS-DOS 2.0 was released, I did =
use
DOS 1.0. It was very primitive, and lacked even subdirectories. It was
designed to run on two-floppy systems with only the root directory on =
each
floppy. I am WELL aware that it is a far cry from the DOS 5.0 on our HP
200LXs. On the other hand, The first edition of the Deitel "Introduction =
to
Operating Systems" textbook states that DOS "under the hood" is really a =
cut
down UNIX Ýrightly or wrongly¨ and before Microsoft acquired DOS, they =
were
already the vendors of XENIX, a scaled down UNIX.

        I don't know much about the internals of e.g. DOS 5.0, but I =
think
that one might be able to defend the idea that the basic underlying =
concepts
include very little that was not to be found already in either QDOS =
ÝSeattle
Computing¨ or UNIX ÝAT&T.¨ Feel free to give Microsoft all the credit =
you
wish for marketing, but for Operating System design I don't think you =
can
point at DOS and give them much credit for originality with it.

        They DID, on the other hand, play a large part in the design of =
OS/2
1.0 through 1.2, though from version 1.3 onwards it has been IBM's baby,
with Microsoft formally relinquishing most of their rights to it Ýother =
than
the Windows Interface, and the excellent High Performance File System¨ =
in
return for a large payment, from version 2.0 onwards.
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> I know it's been mentioned on the list before so I apologize
> for the waste of bandwidth but could some one please let me know where
> to get the "His Word" program. Thanks in advance!

Try http://www.dfwmm.net/~thoover/

Steven English

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I think a New Test. Only Version would be useful for palmtop users with limited space.

Rodger


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From:  Lynn M. CavendishÝSMTP:Cavendishl@AOL.COM¨
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is any one using the olb directly, and not with the "Hisword (tm)" program?
 i'm having trouble setting it up directly.  mm.bat doesn't look as it does
on the big computer, and only leads to error messages.

it rans perfectly on the big computer prior to copy, and the files run very
well under "Hisword (tm)"

i'm greatful to tom hoover for creating "Hisword (tm)", but it lacks a number
of features which are very important to me.  (reading & writing notes;
accessing definitions of strong's #'s)

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I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH ESIER THAN LOWERS.

NOT TRUE. GARY KILLDAL WROTE CP/M(-80) AND CP/M(-86), NOT BILL GATES.
GARY WROTE IT IN THE MID 70'S WHILE WORKING FOR INTEL. IT WAS ABSOLUTLY
THE FIRST DOS...... ALSO IT WAS FIRST OFFERED TO INTEL AND WHEN THEY
DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT IT, GARY LEFT INTEL AND STARTED UP THE
PREDICESSOR OF DIGITAL RESEARCH WHICH WAS LATER RENAME TO DRI.

QDOS WAS A RIPE OFR OF CP/M. IF YOU DON'T BELIVE IT. LOOK AT THE CODE.
ALSO LOOK AT THE BUGS IN EDLIN IN DOS AND THE SAME ONES WERE IN ED IN
BOTH CP/M-80 AND CP/M-86. IF QDOS WAS NOT A RIP OFF, WOULD THE EXACT
BUGS APPEAR IN BOTH. NO WAY.

BOYD S.(SPENCE) MINER K4KEP (EX W9QNI)

Rob Blasdel wrote:
>
> Not quite true. IBM went to Gates, who was developing CP/M software for
> them, and asked him to develop an OS. Gates, not having any readily
> available OS or the resources to develop one, SENT the IBM VP's to
> Digital Research office telling them that there they could find a ready
> made 8086 OS, which IBM to proceeded to contact.
>
> Digital Research' owner and chief creator of the OS in question (Gary
> Killdal) went out of town and left the discussion with the IBM exec's to
> his wife. The IBM VP's first duty was to ask her to sign a standard
> non-disclosure form (essentially said that Digital Research would never
> divulge that IBM was there or what they were there for). She brought her
> company attorney in and IBM had to bring in their attorneys to explain
> it etc., etc. IBM finally got tired of it and said the hell with Digital
> Research.
>
> They went back to Gates and it was then that he bought the rights of
> another operating system, not from Killdal and Digital Research but from
> another programmer (a Seattle hardware hacker, Tim Patterson, who had
> tired of waiting for an OS from, you guessed it, Digital Research) so he
> wrote his own, essentially modeling it after what Killdal was
> developing.
>
> RB
>
> R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net  wrote:
>
> >Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
> >originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
> >Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he
> >heard that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to
> >CP/M-86.
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Does anyone configured Nettamer on hotmail.com?

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Bill Gates bought QDos (modified Cp/m) from a company in Seattle for
$50,000. That was then called IBM Dos 1.0 written by Microsoft.

JR

At 09:30 AM 8/22/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH ESIER THAN LOWERS.
>
>NOT TRUE. GARY KILLDAL WROTE CP/M(-80) AND CP/M(-86), NOT BILL GATES.
>GARY WROTE IT IN THE MID 70'S WHILE WORKING FOR INTEL. IT WAS ABSOLUTLY
>THE FIRST DOS...... ALSO IT WAS FIRST OFFERED TO INTEL AND WHEN THEY
>DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT IT, GARY LEFT INTEL AND STARTED UP THE
>PREDICESSOR OF DIGITAL RESEARCH WHICH WAS LATER RENAME TO DRI.
>
>QDOS WAS A RIPE OFR OF CP/M. IF YOU DON'T BELIVE IT. LOOK AT THE CODE.
>ALSO LOOK AT THE BUGS IN EDLIN IN DOS AND THE SAME ONES WERE IN ED IN
>BOTH CP/M-80 AND CP/M-86. IF QDOS WAS NOT A RIP OFF, WOULD THE EXACT
>BUGS APPEAR IN BOTH. NO WAY.
>
>BOYD S.(SPENCE) MINER K4KEP (EX W9QNI)
>
>Rob Blasdel wrote:
>>
>> Not quite true. IBM went to Gates, who was developing CP/M software for
>> them, and asked him to develop an OS. Gates, not having any readily
>> available OS or the resources to develop one, SENT the IBM VP's to
>> Digital Research office telling them that there they could find a ready
>> made 8086 OS, which IBM to proceeded to contact.
>>
>> Digital Research' owner and chief creator of the OS in question (Gary
>> Killdal) went out of town and left the discussion with the IBM exec's to
>> his wife. The IBM VP's first duty was to ask her to sign a standard
>> non-disclosure form (essentially said that Digital Research would never
>> divulge that IBM was there or what they were there for). She brought her
>> company attorney in and IBM had to bring in their attorneys to explain
>> it etc., etc. IBM finally got tired of it and said the hell with Digital
>> Research.
>>
>> They went back to Gates and it was then that he bought the rights of
>> another operating system, not from Killdal and Digital Research but from
>> another programmer (a Seattle hardware hacker, Tim Patterson, who had
>> tired of waiting for an OS from, you guessed it, Digital Research) so he
>> wrote his own, essentially modeling it after what Killdal was
>> developing.
>>
>> RB
>>
>> R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net  wrote:
>>
>> >Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
>> >originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
>> >Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he
>> >heard that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to
>> >CP/M-86.
>>
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I have to agree with Rob.  Tim Paterson wrote QDOS (Quick & Dirty Operating System) in
1980-81, which Microsoft purchased from Seattle Computer for $50,000.  Seattle Computer
called it 86-DOS, Microsoft renamed it MS-DOS and IBM named it PC-DOS.

However,Digital Research did not loose the deal because Kildall missed the meeting.  They
lost the deal because CP/M-86 was late and IBM needed an OS for their to be announced PC.
Therefore they turned to Gates and he purchased 86-DOS from Seattle Computer.

CP/M-86 was offered as an OS for the original PC by IBM (Kildall had threatened IBM with
litigation because of 86-DOS's similarities to CP/M).  A third OS was also offered,
Softech's p-system.  However, IBM backed PC-DOS.  All of the programming languages
(Microsoft products) and application software offered by IBM for the PC would only run
under PC-DOS.

You might want to note the Intel endorsed CP/M-86 at the time.

--- On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:30:40 -0400  "BOYD S. MINER" <k4kep@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

>I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH ESIER THAN LOWERS.
>
>NOT TRUE. GARY KILLDAL WROTE CP/M(-80) AND CP/M(-86), NOT BILL GATES.
>GARY WROTE IT IN THE MID 70'S WHILE WORKING FOR INTEL. IT WAS ABSOLUTLY
>THE FIRST DOS...... ALSO IT WAS FIRST OFFERED TO INTEL AND WHEN THEY
>DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT IT, GARY LEFT INTEL AND STARTED UP THE
>PREDICESSOR OF DIGITAL RESEARCH WHICH WAS LATER RENAME TO DRI.
>
>QDOS WAS A RIPE OFR OF CP/M. IF YOU DON'T BELIVE IT. LOOK AT THE CODE.
>ALSO LOOK AT THE BUGS IN EDLIN IN DOS AND THE SAME ONES WERE IN ED IN
>BOTH CP/M-80 AND CP/M-86. IF QDOS WAS NOT A RIP OFF, WOULD THE EXACT
>BUGS APPEAR IN BOTH. NO WAY.
>
>BOYD S.(SPENCE) MINER K4KEP (EX W9QNI)
>
>Rob Blasdel wrote:
>>
>> Not quite true. IBM went to Gates, who was developing CP/M software for
>> them, and asked him to develop an OS. Gates, not having any readily
>> available OS or the resources to develop one, SENT the IBM VP's to
>> Digital Research office telling them that there they could find a ready
>> made 8086 OS, which IBM to proceeded to contact.
>>
>> Digital Research' owner and chief creator of the OS in question (Gary
>> Killdal) went out of town and left the discussion with the IBM exec's to
>> his wife. The IBM VP's first duty was to ask her to sign a standard
>> non-disclosure form (essentially said that Digital Research would never
>> divulge that IBM was there or what they were there for). She brought her
>> company attorney in and IBM had to bring in their attorneys to explain
>> it etc., etc. IBM finally got tired of it and said the hell with Digital
>> Research.
>>
>> They went back to Gates and it was then that he bought the rights of
>> another operating system, not from Killdal and Digital Research but from
>> another programmer (a Seattle hardware hacker, Tim Patterson, who had
>> tired of waiting for an OS from, you guessed it, Digital Research) so he
>> wrote his own, essentially modeling it after what Killdal was
>> developing.
>>
>> RB
>>
>> R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net  wrote:
>>
>> >Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
>> >originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
>> >Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he
>> >heard that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to
>> >CP/M-86.
>>
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           8/22/97 10:04:04 AM EDT
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I would be interested in the flash card if you're willing to sell it
separately.


>For Sale:
>
>HP 200lx Palmtop 1MB
>15MB Flash-Ram Card
>2400 Zoom POCKET modem
> Runs on internal 9v battery.
>Connectivity Pack from HP
>2 Extra Serial Cables
>1 Modem Cable
>1 Serial Cable (Converts palmtop to standard 9pin serial)
>Flexible Palmtop Light
>2 Sets of Lithum Batteries
>
>I've recently purchased a notebook computer and no longer require the power
>and flexibility that my hp200 offeres me. It's in fine condition and works
>quite well. It can still be warrentied by HP for 2 years for $89. The Zoom
>PocketModem still has 6 years on it's 7 year warrenty. I have all the
>packaging
>for all the parts as well as the HP. I'm asking $400 obo for the whole
>package
>shipped Fedex NextDay COD to any US destination. Please e-mail me at
>mwaldron@ohio.net or call me at (216) 322-6279.
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I'll keep your message for reference, but I have a possible interested
buyer in the whole package, so not right now...

Thanks for your interest.


Steven Lee wrote:

> I would be interested in the flash card if you're willing to sell it
> separately.
>
> >For Sale:
> >
> >HP 200lx Palmtop 1MB
> >15MB Flash-Ram Card
> >2400 Zoom POCKET modem
> > Runs on internal 9v battery.
> >Connectivity Pack from HP
> >2 Extra Serial Cables
> >1 Modem Cable
> >1 Serial Cable (Converts palmtop to standard 9pin serial)
> >Flexible Palmtop Light
> >2 Sets of Lithum Batteries
> >
> >I've recently purchased a notebook computer and no longer require the
> power
> >and flexibility that my hp200 offeres me. It's in fine condition and
> works
> >quite well. It can still be warrentied by HP for 2 years for $89. The
> Zoom
> >PocketModem still has 6 years on it's 7 year warrenty. I have all the
>
> >packaging
> >for all the parts as well as the HP. I'm asking $400 obo for the
> whole
> >package
> >shipped Fedex NextDay COD to any US destination. Please e-mail me at
> >mwaldron@ohio.net or call me at (216) 322-6279.
> >
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> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:21:42 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> I don't usually advertise but for the past week or so I've been working
> with the folks at Banana Programming to help them to optimize a great
> little comm program for my 200LX. It's called Banana Comm Lean. It's got
> automatic Z modem downloading, and is very lean and mean and best of all
> it's much, much, much quicker than the built in DataComm program. It is
> shareware but the author has conveyed to me that if he can get 10 people
> to register the Lean version he will join our list and try to make
> whatever changes he can to really optimize it for the LX palmtops. It's
> available on the SUPER site. I'm sure that there are other people such as
> myself that use their HP's to access UNIX shell accounts and BBS's such
> as I do. Anyway, I just thought I'd pass this along to the list. I'm
> receiving no financial gain just the ability to access the Net much more
> quickly!
>
> Personally, I find the program a little too underpowered as compared to {COMMO}
> (v7.0 which is optimised for the HP palmtop but needs an APLOAD program from
> Compuserve. Can anyone pass me that?) and Qmodem. These two have proper
> scrollback, X/Y/Zmodem protocols, good phonebooks and other little niceties here
> and there. Bananacom is more for the simple user kind.
>
> So, I think, for the lite user, BananaCom is OK. For people who want more configurability
> (at the expense of disk space) Qmodem (which I use) and {COMMO} (Which I ALSO
> use for a BBS on my palmtop, nice little novelty I use to SHOW OFF to them "wince-ing"
> users.)
>
> ... Anyone ever wonders why MS calls their new palmtop OS WinCE? Simply coz they
> want you to wince/squirme/puke/upgrade-once-a-quarter-syndrome whenever you
> use it. My .0001 cents worth, if it is worth anything......

Right and TRY "BBS225" wich is very smaller and more powerfull. lot
of protocols X-Y-Z Y/G 1KX ETC, SCROLLBACK, LOG-FILE DOSSHELL...
AND IS ONLY 80K..

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People often talk about CEs comparing with 200LX, but in my
opinion those are two different animals, and CEs perhaps can be
better discussed somewhere else in the future.  They are simply
different products focusing on different market subsegments:

I just wanted to mention my experience for those who are
considering switching from 200LX to 320LX (or other CEs.)

I work as a marketing manager (previously a management
consultant for a US firm) and use 1) Lotus, 2) some
math functions (and solvers etc), and so want 3) 10 keys
and need 4) the data com function of 200LX.

My only problem was that there was not any good tcp/ip based
mailer available for 200LX.  There were some critical posts
about D&A Softwares' marketing the other day, but I knew that
they had been working on it before POST/LX eventually came out
in the market.  I was that much interested in obtaining a good
mailer for 200LX.

POST/LX is just super.  The best software I ever had for the
machine.  I think that HP should replace the built in ccMAIL
with POST/LX. (and they may call it 'post'/320:-)

During my recent trips to Europe, POST/LX was extremely
valuable.  I didn't have any problem in hooking up to my ISP in
Tokyo (I'm Japanese living in Tokyo) using local CompuServe's
APs.

Anyway, if anyone (perhaps business people)is thinking that
320LX might improve mailing tasks, try POST/LX first with your
200LX.  I personally think that the larger keyboard of 320LX is
not so easy to use as it looks.

But before that 320LX is 1) too heavy  2) too big (it should
have a color display, if not a joy stick, with that sort of
size and weight) 3) have to take out a pen to execute a command
, then wait for a while until a program is loaded -
this basic approach (its interface and pen based system) is
simply not appropriate to mobile computing.  That's, to me,
the funniest and dummiest part of WinCE. 4) pcAnywhere and all
other *nice to have* sort of software? ... I simply don't need
them while on the go.  5) sending a hand written fax to someone
quickly?  I'm just polite enough to type up and fax using a
ThinFax (that's the card I always have with my 200LX.)

In short, I need 200LX' Lotus, math functions, *10 keys*, nice
touch and feel keyboard... right balance of its functions and
size/weight - that's why I don't carry 320LX  -  and I prefer
to use PCMCIA cards rather than custom made machine specific
devices - that's why I don't use PSION or PalmPilot.

The latter is becoming very popular here (and I hear that in
the US also)  To me, this basically means that most people only
need rather basic PIM functions, and if that's the case the
current CEs will never beat PalmPilot with their builtin PIMs,
since PalmPilot is a lot faster and much smaller than CEs...its
product concept is very clear and well focused to the biggest
subsegment.




It wasn't my intention to discuss the strategic domain of CEs.
I just wanted to mention about POST/LX to people with the
same needs as I have:

I'm very grateful to those smart individuals who made and
marketed POST/LX.  I guess I have to get another back up 200LX
before it becomes difficult to obtain here, like in US as
people mentioned the other day... and thanks for the
information.




Atsushi Hanai, Tokyo

with a clock doubled/6M 200LX
Friday evening, on my way back to home....

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Hello All you Whiz-LXers,

I turned on my 1 MB 200 LX the other morning and tried to run the Memo
program and it immediately says "divide overflow" and crashes to Dos, in
the _DAT directory. No more commands will work, in Dos or whatever. I
can reboot, run any other program but that one, and all works fine, but
not the Memo program.

Any idea what might be wrong?

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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>
> Hello All you Whiz-LXers,
>
> I turned on my 1 MB 200 LX the other morning and tried to run the Memo
> program and it immediately says "divide overflow" and crashes to Dos, in
> the _DAT directory. No more commands will work, in Dos or whatever. I
> can reboot, run any other program but that one, and all works fine, but
> not the Memo program.
>
> Any idea what might be wrong?

Never seen this or heard of it before. I would suggest deleting the file:
C:\_DAT\MEMOED.ENV

and see if this works. If not try removing any or all TSR's loaded.

Good Luck.

>
> Bob Aldrich
> Los Angeles
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This is all very interesting.  But let's give credit where credit is due.
Bill Gates and Microsoft had the smarts to come up with an
operating system that IBM wanted.  So what if they didn't write it!
Why write something if don't have to!  That's why Micrsoft
has such a good web page development tool -- which is now
called Microsft Front Page --they bought that
too!  They were smart enough to pick one of the best and
make it their own.

If we had similar business smarts,
we would have invested in Microsoft around 1981.

DOS has really improved since version 1.0, which I used
to use.  Let's give Microsoft credit for the improvements
they made to it, too.


At 08:00 AM 8/22/97 -0700, John Ramos wrote:
>Bill Gates bought QDos (modified Cp/m) from a company in Seattle for
>$50,000. That was then called IBM Dos 1.0 written by Microsoft.
>
>JR
>
>At 09:30 AM 8/22/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH ESIER THAN LOWERS.
>>
>>NOT TRUE. GARY KILLDAL WROTE CP/M(-80) AND CP/M(-86), NOT BILL GATES.
>>GARY WROTE IT IN THE MID 70'S WHILE WORKING FOR INTEL. IT WAS ABSOLUTLY
>>THE FIRST DOS...... ALSO IT WAS FIRST OFFERED TO INTEL AND WHEN THEY
>>DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT IT, GARY LEFT INTEL AND STARTED UP THE
>>PREDICESSOR OF DIGITAL RESEARCH WHICH WAS LATER RENAME TO DRI.
>>
>>QDOS WAS A RIPE OFR OF CP/M. IF YOU DON'T BELIVE IT. LOOK AT THE CODE.
>>ALSO LOOK AT THE BUGS IN EDLIN IN DOS AND THE SAME ONES WERE IN ED IN
>>BOTH CP/M-80 AND CP/M-86. IF QDOS WAS NOT A RIP OFF, WOULD THE EXACT
>>BUGS APPEAR IN BOTH. NO WAY.
>>
>>BOYD S.(SPENCE) MINER K4KEP (EX W9QNI)
>>
>>Rob Blasdel wrote:
>>>
>>> Not quite true. IBM went to Gates, who was developing CP/M software for
>>> them, and asked him to develop an OS. Gates, not having any readily
>>> available OS or the resources to develop one, SENT the IBM VP's to
>>> Digital Research office telling them that there they could find a ready
>>> made 8086 OS, which IBM to proceeded to contact.
>>>
>>> Digital Research' owner and chief creator of the OS in question (Gary
>>> Killdal) went out of town and left the discussion with the IBM exec's to
>>> his wife. The IBM VP's first duty was to ask her to sign a standard
>>> non-disclosure form (essentially said that Digital Research would never
>>> divulge that IBM was there or what they were there for). She brought her
>>> company attorney in and IBM had to bring in their attorneys to explain
>>> it etc., etc. IBM finally got tired of it and said the hell with Digital
>>> Research.
>>>
>>> They went back to Gates and it was then that he bought the rights of
>>> another operating system, not from Killdal and Digital Research but from
>>> another programmer (a Seattle hardware hacker, Tim Patterson, who had
>>> tired of waiting for an OS from, you guessed it, Digital Research) so he
>>> wrote his own, essentially modeling it after what Killdal was
>>> developing.
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>> R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net  wrote:
>>>
>>> >Remember: Microsoft did NOT invent DOS. The original 1.0 was
>>> >originally called QDOS = Quick and Dirty OS, and programmed by Seattle
>>> >Computing. Bill Gates bought the rights to it VERY quickly, after he
>>> >heard that IBM was in the market for a third-party OS in addition to
>>> >CP/M-86.
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Hello All!

I'm going to join the family of HP 200LX users, I'm going to buy 200LX
palmtop. After having done some reading in this list, I guess to buy
already upgraded to 6-8mb double speed palmtop. I have an offer to buy a
new unused one with 6mb in "One-Stop Palmtop Shop", and I would be grateful
for some more information about their palmtops and for any offers and
advices.

I also interested in offers of used 200LX with 6 or 8mb double speed in a
good condition. I guess to buy
200LX-compatible faxmodem 14.4 also, probably with a built-in flash 8 or
10mb, so all offers are welcome. Anywhere on continental USA.

Please excuse me for my poor English.

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
igg@sbcorp.ru

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Hello Simon,
        Well you hit the nail right on the head, that time! It worked
beautifully. Thank you.

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles


> > Hello All you Whiz-LXers
> > I turned on my 1 MB 200 LX the other morning and tried to run the Memo
> > program and it immediately says "divide overflow" and crashes to Dos, in
> > the _DAT directory. No more commands will work, in Dos or whatever. I
> > can reboot, run any other program but that one, and all works fine, but
> > not the Memo program.
> > Any idea what might be wrong?
>
Simon Block wrote:
Never seen this or heard of it before. I would suggest deleting the
file:
> C:\_DAT\MEMOED.ENV
> and see if this works. If not try removing any or all TSR's loaded.
> Good Luck.
>       Simon Block.
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Interested in buying ACT! for HP's or ACT! DOS, complete with manual.

e-mail me at address below.

Thanks,
Michael
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           8/22/97 4:31:42 PM EDT
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On 1997-08-21 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to senglish@axs.com.au
   >Hi fellow palmtoppers:
   >I have recently moved back to using appt from a custom to-do
   >database. One irritant that I have is that completed to-do's are
   >located on the day they are done. This makes it hard to locate
   >exactly when you completed a task. Has anyone written a to-do
   >database and some marcos to move the completed ones to a .gdb for
   >archiving? This would make it easier to use appt for me.=20
   >Dave Bengtson

One other solution is to use the program Global Search after pressing
F10 in the Appointment program to bring up your To Do list. Type a
keyword from the completed To Do you are looking for into Global
Search & it should find it.

Steven English

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I have an extra 20meg ATA flashram card for sale.

Epson brand, works fine in the HPx00LX.

$225

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Date:         Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:51:43 -0400
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> The reason for this is because ACT!-LX was written for the 95LX with its
> limited display.

> >There are some limitations that seem to have no reason; the screen for one!
> >All you see is a screen that fits between the F3 and the F8 marks when
> >running on the HP. Because of this you have to scroll through 6 screens
> >for 1 contact info.

 Thanks for clearing up that mystery for me. Saw your later message
concerning the upgrade at Symantec's site. For a while I was thinking that
they forgot about the Handheld version! Will try to download. Is the
screen any better? <g>

Best regards,







Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

Trinidad, West Indies.

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On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Rodger N. Bird II wrote:
> I think a New Test. Only Version would be useful for palmtop users with limited space.
> Rodger
> ----------
> From:  Lynn M. CavendishÝSMTP:Cavendishl@AOL.COM¨
> Sent:  Thursday, August 21, 1997 9:47 PM
> To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:  on line bible
> is any one using the olb directly, and not with the "Hisword (tm)" program?
>  i'm having trouble setting it up directly.  mm.bat doesn't look as it does
> on the big computer, and only leads to error messages.
> it rans perfectly on the big computer prior to copy, and the files run very
> well under "Hisword (tm)"

Go to Tom Hoover's page (the URL is in several recent messages).  You
should be able to find a link to a version of the OLB which runs on the
palmtop.   You need to change the path on the mm.bat file to match the
palmtop.  It should work ok after that (I erased mm.bat and use the other
batch file provided which runs the program without all the menus.  As far
as space, it depends on the size of your flash card.  I loaded a two
version file once with no problem, but had to switch back to the one
version file as I was running out of space (I have since started using
JAM, but that doesn't help with the OLB, since the exe's and the bible
data files are already highly compressed).

Domingo

P.S.  This is one of my last posts with my old concentric account, so if
you would like more help, wait till you see a post with my new address on
it, then I'll be glad to help all I can.

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I have a Viking 4MB ATA 5V flash card and while trying to format it get
" Format not supported on Drive A:" "Format Terminated". Any suggestions on
what the problem might be and how to correct it.

Looking forward to any reply,
Qman

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Jim A. Dantin wrote:
>
> I have an extra 20meg ATA flashram card for sale.
>
> Epson brand, works fine in the HPx00LX.
>
> $225
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I might be interested.  Is that 20 MB compressed or uncompressed?

JS

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What does the 5V stand for? 5 volts?  There isn't 5 volts in the LX200. If
it's not 5 volts, if you or a friend has a PCMCIA adpater for your PC,
reformat it at the DOS level and try again.

JR


At 05:04 PM 8/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I have a Viking 4MB ATA 5V flash card and while trying to format it get
>" Format not supported on Drive A:" "Format Terminated". Any suggestions on
>what the problem might be and how to correct it.
>
>Looking forward to any reply,
>Qman
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John Ramos wrote:

> What does the 5V stand for? 5 volts?  There isn't 5 volts in the LX200. If
> it's not 5 volts, if you or a friend has a PCMCIA adpater for your PC,
> reformat it at the DOS level and try again.

Actually, the 200LX can supply 5V or 12V to the PC Card socket.
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Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote...

   Expense:   _________________
   Miles traveled:
   Ý ¨  Brainstorm worth reviewing.  <== checkbox

>What's needed, here, I think is a way of
>*printing out* the database in various ways.
>For example, I want a listing of all
>diary entries that contain brainstorms.

>Anyone know where to get documentation
>on the technical format of the built-in
>databases?

Philip,
You can define a subset of all diary entries that have "brainstorm" checked
off. Then all you need to do is export or print.


 ______          _
|      \  ____  | |     ___   ____
| _____/ /    \ | |    /   \ | __ \
| |     |------ | |__ |  0  || | \ \
|_|      \____  \____\ \___/ |_| |_|
Brian Franey                phone   506-283-5941
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San Jose, Costa Rica        http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7839

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Now let's understand this...I have 2ea 1.5v batteries in the unit = 3
volts. If I plug in a charger it will supply over 3 volts? Ok, I'll buy
that, but if that's so, I would classify card as "Useless" as it can only
be used when plugged in!!!!! Data integrity just may not be that good!?
Wait a minute, it has an inverter in it, I completely missed that! Sorry.

JR

At 05:49 PM 8/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>John Ramos wrote:
>
>> What does the 5V stand for? 5 volts?  There isn't 5 volts in the LX200. If
>> it's not 5 volts, if you or a friend has a PCMCIA adpater for your PC,
>> reformat it at the DOS level and try again.
>
>Actually, the 200LX can supply 5V or 12V to the PC Card socket.
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I picked up one of these cards today (PNY 8MB Flash) at Sears for 132.99 =
on sale.  I agree, it seems like a nice little memory card.  Nice and =
quick.


Sean D. Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

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From:   Lynn M. CavendishÝSMTP:Cavendishl@AOL.COM¨
Sent:   Thursday, August 21, 1997 9:36 PM
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Subject:        sears 8 meg flashcard

someone recently mentioned an 8 meg card available form sears for $140.  =
fyi,
it is currently on sale for $134.  not much of a savings, but it pays =
the
tax.

qualitative, it feels quite quick.  copying from c: to a: seems much =
quicker
than my hp or my viking ata card, and just as fast as my hp sram card.  =
just
got it today, and have not applied the stop watch.  (the ata cards are
stacked, which makes the comparison unfair.  still, it seems a lot =
faster)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Tell me more!!!!!!!!!!!

Looking forward to your replies,
Qman

At 05:49 PM 8/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
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What does the 5V stand for? Good question. Don't know! I got the card in a
trade.
I'll try the PCMCIA / PC and reformat it at the DOS level idea. Then I'll
get back with the results.

Thanks,
Qman



At 05:40 PM 8/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>What does the 5V stand for? 5 volts?  There isn't 5 volts in the LX200. If
>it's not 5 volts, if you or a friend has a PCMCIA adpater for your PC,
>reformat it at the DOS level and try again.
>
>JR
>
>
>At 05:04 PM 8/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>I have a Viking 4MB ATA 5V flash card and while trying to format it get
>>" Format not supported on Drive A:" "Format Terminated". Any suggestions on
>>what the problem might be and how to correct it.
>>
>>Looking forward to any reply,
>>Qman
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Subject:      Re: on line bible

if anyone is either (a) trying to answer my question on running the online
bible, or is (b) watching for someone to ansewer it, i have solved my own
problem.

1.  you gotta have olb 6.22.  the earleir versions are made crazy by the
"light sleep" function of the hp.  if you can run "hisword(tm)" while on
batteries, you have the correct version.

2.  use this command line to start olb:

         bible d={path}\{ver}

as my olb is in a directory, "bible" and i use the authorized version (av), i
use the following (which i have written as a batch file, since i can not
remember this kind of stuff so well):

          a:
          cd \bible
          bible d=a:\bible\av
          buddy
          200

seems to work, give me access to all of the olb functionality, and puts me
back in systems manager when i'm done.  on an 8 meg flashcard, i have the
authorized version, the crossref's, the greek portion of the lexicon, the on
line bible files, and the "hisword (tm)" file, with .5 meg free.  i expect i
can free a couple hundred k more, if i get rid of the stuff i don't really
need.

using "hisword (tm)" is much more pleasant for casual browsing, or reading
through the bible.  as i said once before, i am grateful to tom hoover for
creating it.  however, there are times when the full function of the olb is
needed.  on those occasions, it is nice to have an option.  Ýthat's why we
all have hp200lx's.  we want the option to do it our way, and not just the
micro$oft way.¨

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Another eason why MS-DOS became the defacto OS of choice: Of the three
OS's available, two were priced at around $150-200+. MS-DOS was priced
out at something like $79.95

R Blasdel

>However,Digital Research did not loose the deal because Kildall missed >the meeting. They lost the deal because CP/M-86 was late and IBM needed >an OS for their to be announced PC. Therefore they turned to Gates and >he purchased 86-DOS from Seattle Computer.

>CP/M-86 was offered as an OS for the original PC by IBM (Kildall had >threatened IBM with litigation because of 86-DOS's similarities to >CP/M).  A third OS was also offered, Softech's p-system.  However, IBM >backed PC-DOS.  All of the programming languages (Microsoft products) >and application software offered by IBM for the PC would only
>run under PC-DOS.

>You might want to note the Intel endorsed CP/M-86 at the time.

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Subject:      Re: Shark 250 Meg drive question

one problem would be that the shark draws a TON of power.  if one (1) had a
doubleslot, which allows added power to the pcmcia slot via 110 wall plug,
and (2) had a pcmcia parallel port, then, yes, there might be a solution.
 without that, there can not be a solution.

i e-mailed the shark's tech people, asking for advice last weekend, and have
received no answer.  if anyone know more about using the shark 250, i'd like
to know, too.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Sorry, perhaps I should have clarified the sentence better. When I
wrote:

"IBM went to Gates, who was developing CP/M software for them. . ."

I meant that he was writing programs for the CP/M platform, not CP/M
itself.

Rob Blasdel

>I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH ESIER THAN LOWERS.

>NOT TRUE. GARY KILLDAL WROTE CP/M(-80) AND CP/M(-86), NOT BILL GATES.
>GARY WROTE IT IN THE MID 70'S WHILE WORKING FOR INTEL. IT WAS ABSOLUTLY
>THE FIRST DOS...... ALSO IT WAS FIRST OFFERED TO INTEL AND WHEN THEY
>DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT IT, GARY LEFT INTEL AND STARTED UP THE
>PREDICESSOR OF DIGITAL RESEARCH WHICH WAS LATER RENAME TO DRI.

>QDOS WAS A RIPE OFR OF CP/M. IF YOU DON'T BELIVE IT. LOOK AT THE CODE.
>ALSO LOOK AT THE BUGS IN EDLIN IN DOS AND THE SAME ONES WERE IN ED IN
>BOTH CP/M-80 AND CP/M-86. IF QDOS WAS NOT A RIP OFF, WOULD THE EXACT
>BUGS APPEAR IN BOTH. NO WAY.

>BOYD S.(SPENCE) MINER K4KEP (EX W9QNI)

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It seems the hp200lx is cut-off from the mainstream.

An ecology has developed around the hp200lx in its small pond, supporting
double-speed mods, and RAM upgrades, because there is nothing else like it.
But the demand is too small for the mainstream to get involved.

Instead, the mainstream has moved on; to pilots, wince's and colour zauri -
though the wince's seem to be going the way of the dinosaurs. Another pond
gave rise to the psion 5; though unlike the hp200lx, it was never a part of
the mainstream.

Perhaps an animal like the hp200lx will never evolve again - the market
never right for a full desktop computer to shrink to the palm of a hand.


The hp200lx *looks* like computing machinery from an alternate time, a time
cut-off from ours, and that developed independently. It has that other-worldly,
"dirty technology" look of Star Wars equipment. A lost device from a more
advanced people. Like it fell to Earth, was found by gypsies, and sold in one
of those odd curiousity shops that you can never find again.

Whether one-off evolution, or a more advanced technology, we may never see
its like again. We'd best make the most of it.

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Quinton Jones JR wrote:

> I have a Viking 4MB ATA 5V flash card and while trying to format it get
> " Format not supported on Drive A:" "Format Terminated". Any suggestions on
> what the problem might be and how to correct it.

Did you try FDISK100 first?  That's necessary on the 200LX.  If you do format it with a
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> It seems the hp200lx is cut-off from the mainstream.
> <snip>

Wow!  That was pretty poetic.

I can see the movie trailer 20 years from now:
"In 1997, a lone tourist in Brazil took a trip down the Amazon river with his trusty
Cassiopeia." (Scary music mixed with dark, wet trees along the river bank as we see a
canoe floating by).  "Unfortunately, his canoe sank, and he was devoured in seconds by
piranhas.  But something survived..."  (Clip of WinCE unit sinking into a mud puddle)
"Now, they're breeding, and destroying every living thing they come in contact with."
(Clip of monkeys, jaguars, birds, etc. fleeing from the jungle.  Village in the distance
is in smoldering ruins.)  "Now, a team of scientists is going in to stop the menace.
It's...ATTACK OF THE KILLER WINDOWS CE MACHINES."  (Fade to black.)

Think it'll be a hit?

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John Ramos wrote:

> Now let's understand this...I have 2ea 1.5v batteries in the unit = 3
> volts. If I plug in a charger it will supply over 3 volts? Ok, I'll buy
> that, but if that's so, I would classify card as "Useless" as it can only
> be used when plugged in!!!!! Data integrity just may not be that good!?
> Wait a minute, it has an inverter in it, I completely missed that! Sorry.

Exactly.  I posted a question a few months ago asking the same thing; essentially, how
reliable it was to use a 5V or 12V card in a 200LX without the AC adapter, since you'd
only have 3V maximum.  But, as usual, HP did a good job on it, and you usually won't have
a problem.  Unless the batteries are very low while writing to the card-- then it can
cause problems, especially if the machine shuts off from low-power in the middle of a
write.
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Does anyone have a copy of the Apocrypha(APC or RAPC)  installed with
the DOS version of Online Bible? I have one from the Win CD that
doesn't  work neither with OLB 6.22 neither with HisWord (tm). If
anyone does and is willing to help me, I woul appreciate if you could
send it to me by private email either the unisntalled DOS version or
one already installed with OLB 6.22. This versions come with the DOS
Online Bible CD-ROM that is no longer sold by the publishers and both
are copyrigthed but freely distributable.

Thanks

Antonio
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Until the last week I was using Software Caroussel to run more DOS
applications with high menory requirements such as Agenda. After
several failed attempts I was able to install MaxDos and liked the
way I can now handle those applications. I sacrificed the task switch
feature but I'm enjoyed the change for now because it freed more than
1 M in my C drive.

But to be able to have my appt. alarms while working in DOS I
installed PlayEx according to the instructions provided with MaxDOS.

The problems started here: when exiting SysMan using & M T the
palmtop hangs and I have to do a cold reboot. Has anyone came across
this problem? A dump of my autoexec.bat follows.
__________________________________________________________________-
@echo off

prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos
c:

assign e:=a:

Rem d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
c:\playex\playex -l
a:\helvmoon\helvmoon.com
a:\abc\abctsr.com
a:\battlog\battlog.com
c:\maxdos\maxdos -l -e25 -wc:\temp -ac:\_dat\alarm.snd
Rem call d:\bin\llras
c:\buddy\buddy.com
a:\ipex\ipex -fa:\pcx\
moreexm -s10
a:\quick\quick.com /b /s /2 /l3 /m2 /r1024 c:\_dat\quick.dat
200
c:\maxdos\maxdos -r
c:\playex\playex -r
a:\ipex\ipex -r
rem C:
rem CD\SC
rem CAROUSEL
___________________________________________________________________

Antonio

Antonio Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
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Does anyone use Procomm? If so, how do it work for you?
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DEBUG is useful for debugging assembly language programs or for peaking at
any file to see what codes are embedded in it.  The other day I wanted to
know if a file had tab codes in it or just spaces to separate columns.  By
using DEBUG I was able to do that easily and quickly.

As I recall -- it's also very useful for bringing to life tiny utility
programs that other people have created without using an assembler  Sorry
I can't remember the details at the moment.  The user-to-user
column in PC Magazine used to make use of this feature.   I'll try to post
an example, later.
.

At 02:06 PM 8/22/97 +1000, you wrote:
>> I don't own either, so I can't comment directly. However, I've usually
>> managed to get by with printf's and DEBUG (I just checked, its in the HP
>> ROM) for DOS programming.
>
>I had a little play with DEBIG once .. a sort of on-the-fly disassembler?
>But how do you use it for debugging? I'm using Turbo C with only the
>command-line compiler .. this built in debugger could be useful.
>
>Thanks
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Thanks for the global search tip.  That would come in useful.
However, I'd like to be able to see a list -- all in one place --
so  I can easily browse all of the to-do items that
I have completed-- so I can evaluate by progress, feel good about
what I have done, and so on.


At 08:03 AM 8/23/97 +2200, you wrote:
>On 1997-08-21 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to senglish@axs.com.au
>   >Hi fellow palmtoppers:
>   >I have recently moved back to using appt from a custom to-do
>   >database. One irritant that I have is that completed to-do's are
>   >located on the day they are done. This makes it hard to locate
>   >exactly when you completed a task. Has anyone written a to-do
>   >database and some marcos to move the completed ones to a .gdb for
>   >archiving? This would make it easier to use appt for me.=20
>   >Dave Bengtson
>
>One other solution is to use the program Global Search after pressing
>F10 in the Appointment program to bring up your To Do list. Type a
>keyword from the completed To Do you are looking for into Global
>Search & it should find it.
>
>Steven English
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You should be a magazine writer, man!

Or a historian.




Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> It seems the hp200lx is cut-off from the mainstream.
>
> An ecology has developed around the hp200lx in its small pond, supporting
> double-speed mods, and RAM upgrades, because there is nothing else like it.
> But the demand is too small for the mainstream to get involved.
>
> Instead, the mainstream has moved on; to pilots, wince's and colour zauri -
> though the wince's seem to be going the way of the dinosaurs. Another pond
> gave rise to the psion 5; though unlike the hp200lx, it was never a part of
> the mainstream.
>
> Perhaps an animal like the hp200lx will never evolve again - the market
> never right for a full desktop computer to shrink to the palm of a hand.
>
> The hp200lx *looks* like computing machinery from an alternate time, a time
> cut-off from ours, and that developed independently. It has that other-worldly,
> "dirty technology" look of Star Wars equipment. A lost device from a more
> advanced people. Like it fell to Earth, was found by gypsies, and sold in one
> of those odd curiousity shops that you can never find again.
>
> Whether one-off evolution, or a more advanced technology, we may never see
> its like again. We'd best make the most of it.
>

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For anyone interested, there is a new version of my periodic table program
on the SUPER site or my webpage at  http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

bye,

Owen Samuelson
KU4ET

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 (Nicholas Chan) ask:

>    Project Management
Can someone point me to the *BEST* there is? (apart from the Japanese one)

if you have dismissed the japanese pjt2 program, i presume that you found it
not to be powerful enough for your needs. as far as i know, the real
powerhouse program manager which will work on a 200lx is "timelines."  i have
version 5.0 for dos, which i picked up in a second-hand software shop here in
northern virginia.

"timelines" will do just about everything. it will manage thousands of
sub-tasks at numerous levels of complexity.  it does all that  "budgeted cost
of work scheduled", "actual cost of ..." that is required for Government
C-Spec contract management.

if you can't manage your program with "timelines", i think you may want to
consider hiring a management firm, because you have a heap big progam to
manage.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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After so much time of lurking, today I can't leave you alone it
seems. Im on holidays and that must be the reason, I've more time to
explore my wonderful HPLX.

I tried today to install and get to work the japonese program
GETAREA. I followed the instructions on the english document but I
can=B4t put it to work. I installed it with SMXX and More EXM, put the
getarea.ini in a _DAT directory, getarea.ara in the directory entered
in the ini file but when I press the hot key nothing happens.

Has anyone tried GETAREA and can help me?

Thanks

Antonio




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Debug is the essential programmer's tool.  It allows you to look at
memory and file contents (hex), as well as assemble and unassemble,
deal with XMS memory, and trace programs, all on the fly.

It doesn't even pretend to be a source level debugger, but it's probably
the most trusted Real Programmer's tool since TECO.  I'm trying to find =

a version of this fine line Ýnoise¨ editor.

Incidentally, it's a pleasant variation of CP/M's DDT (dynamic debugging
tool) ;) program.  Of course, it doesn't have the killer ;) ;) acronym...=
.
Seattle Whoever copied that and ED for their debuggers and line editors =

for 86DOS.

I think we should all adopt Brainf*** as our programming langugage
and TECO for our editor.  Wouldn't that be fun? :)

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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> DEBUG is useful for debugging assembly language programs or for peaking=
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> any file to see what codes are embedded in it.  The other day I wanted =
to
> know if a file had tab codes in it or just spaces to separate columns. =
 By
> using DEBUG I was able to do that easily and quickly.
<snip>
> >I had a little play with DEBIG once .. a sort of on-the-fly disassembl=
er?
> >But how do you use it for debugging? I'm using Turbo C with only the
> >command-line compiler .. this built in debugger could be useful.

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Subject:      Project Management Software

Timeline 5.0 (Symantec) is a heavy duty solution - I haven't tried it on my
palmtop - but if you have the space and it runs ok it should handle
projects of great complexity in minute detail.

I found the program Project Kickstart (Experience in Software) to be very
useful as a preparation for a project  setup in Timeline.  It leads you
through planning step by step and when you are ready to move to Timeline,
it will set up a lot of the info for you in Timeline (and some other
programs also - it's pretty neat with Lotus Agenda also)

Anyhow I searched Symantec's web site and find nothing on Timeline - I
guess the only place you can find it is secondhand.  I saw it on AuctionWeb
a few months ago.  I got mine a couple of years ago from Surplus Software.

I looked at:http://www.experienceware.com/palmtop.html
the site for 200LX software offered by Experience in Software and see
Project Kickstart is still being sold at $ 49.95.  I saw a project
management program called Protracs  also $ 49.95 - don't know anything
about it and wondered if anyone else does?

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Sent:   Saturday, August 23, 1997 3:26 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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 (Nicholas Chan) ask:

>    Project Management
Can someone point me to the *BEST* there is? (apart from the Japanese one)

if you have dismissed the japanese pjt2 program, i presume that you found
it
not to be powerful enough for your needs. as far as i know, the real
powerhouse program manager which will work on a 200lx is "timelines."  i
have
version 5.0 for dos, which i picked up in a second-hand software shop here
in
northern virginia.

"timelines" will do just about everything. it will manage thousands of
sub-tasks at numerous levels of complexity.  it does all that  "budgeted
cost
of work scheduled", "actual cost of ..." that is required for Government
C-Spec contract management.

if you can't manage your program with "timelines", i think you may want to
consider hiring a management firm, because you have a heap big progam to
manage.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Subject:      WinCE lisp, basis, forth: on-the-unit
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Well, I thought it would take forever (read never) for programming
languages to appear on the WinCE handhelds. But there is lisp, basic and
forth. Very much in the early alpha stages (eg: PocketForth 0.1); and not
commerically backed, and not your red-hot language-of-the-moment type stuff.
But I didn't think it would be there at all.

Have a look:
        http://www.winceonline.com/prog.html

Brendan

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Hi to all,
I'd like to buy a second hand copy of "The CD Infobase 1996 edition".
If interested please send me an E-MAIL with "CD" in subject.
I'd like also to buy 1994-1996 copies of "The HP Palmtop Paper".
If interested please send me an E-MAIL with "PAPER" in subject.
Thank you

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask if anyone knows of a DOS package for the HP200LX that
will give a better - looking day and week view than the built - in
application and that runs under system manager? In other words a diary
package giving more of a paper diary look with horizontal lines in the
day view and the type of week view you get in a conventional diary.

Does ACT or InfoSelect do this perhaps? Some other application?

I'd like that feature available on my HP200LX. This request may seem a
bit pedantic but although the HP200LX is a great palmtop, I find the
HP200LX appointment views "dreary" and in need of enhancement!

I know this is mailing list for HP's but just by way of example only,
the Psion series has really nice views which look like conventional
diaries. In the series 5, you can even use different fonts and italics
in your entries.

Thanks


Dr Peter Maddern
Product Developer
North Wales, UK.

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Peter Maddern wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'd like to ask if anyone knows of a DOS package for the HP200LX that
> will give a better - looking day and week view than the built - in
> application and that runs under system manager? In other words a diary
> package giving more of a paper diary look with horizontal lines in the
> day view and the type of week view you get in a conventional diary.
>
> Does ACT or InfoSelect do this perhaps? Some other application?

ACT! & InfoSelect don't. I have looked at both & they are, if anything,
less graphical than the inbuilt appointment program. I have not seen any
other diary program for the HP 200LX that does what you are looking for.

Regards

Steven English

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask if anyone knows of a DOS package for the HP200LX that
will give a better - looking day and week view than the built - in
application and that runs under system manager? In other words a diary
package giving more of a paper diary look with horizontal lines in the
day view and the type of week view you get in a conventional diary.

Does ACT or InfoSelect do this perhaps? Some other application?

I'd like that feature available on my HP200LX. This request may seem a
bit pedantic but although the HP200LX is a great palmtop, I find the
HP200LX appointment views "dreary" and in need of enhancement!

I know this is mailing list for HP's but just by way of example only,
the Psion series has really nice views which look like conventional
diaries. In the series 5, you can even use different fonts and italics
in your entries.

Thanks

Dr Peter Maddern
Product Developer
North Wales, UK.

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On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:07:12 0
Antonio Menezes <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

> Until the last week I was using Software Caroussel to run more DOS
Ý...¨
> The problems started here: when exiting SysMan using & M T the
> palmtop hangs and I have to do a cold reboot. Has anyone came across
> this problem? A dump of my autoexec.bat follows.
Ý...¨

First, you have wrong order of loading and unloading the TSR programs. If
you load programs A, B, C, D in this order before '200' command, you
should upload them in the order of D, C, B, A. Your autoexec.bat shows
confusion in this point.

Second, Buddy should be loaded immediately before the System Manager (
'200' command).


Toshiki Sasabe
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On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 21:27:08 0
Antonio Menezes <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

Ý...¨
> I tried today to install and get to work the japonese program
> GETAREA. I followed the instructions on the english document but I
> can $B%( (Bt put it to work. I installed it with SMXX and More EXM, put the
> getarea.ini in a _DAT directory, getarea.ara in the directory entered
> in the ini file but when I press the hot key nothing happens.

Antonio,

Are other programs registered to MoreEXM working fine?  There is a
possiblity that this is not a GETAREA problem but MOREEXM problem.

If MOREEXM is all right, check your GETAREA.ARA file.  Did you edited
your file so that all the items are pointing to the image files you
prepared?


Toshiki Sasabe
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> So, I think, for the lite user, BananaCom is OK. For people who want more conf
> (at the expense of disk space) Qmodem (which I use) and {COMMO} (Which I ALSO
> use for a BBS on my palmtop, nice little novelty I use to SHOW OFF to them "wi
> users.)
>
> ... Anyone ever wonders why MS calls their new palmtop OS WinCE? Simply coz th
> want you to wince/squirme/puke/upgrade-once-a-quarter-syndrome whenever you
> use it. My .0001 cents worth, if it is worth anything......

Right and TRY "BBS225" wich is very smaller and more powerfull. lot
of protocols X-Y-Z Y/G 1KX ETC, SCROLLBACK, LOG-FILE DOSSHELL...
AND IS ONLY 80K..

Where can I find this? Does it have proper VT100 and ANSI-BBS emu? If so, that the
term for me!
... MASOCHIST: Windows SDK programmer with a smile!

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Hi, Antonio,

On Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:35:34 0
"Antonio Menezes" <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

> >
> >
> > Antonio,
> >
> > Are other programs registered to MoreEXM working fine?  There is a
> > possiblity that this is not a GETAREA problem but MOREEXM problem.
> >
> > If MOREEXM is all right, check your GETAREA.ARA file.  Did you edited
> > your file so that all the items are pointing to the image files you
> > prepared?
> >
> Toshiki
>
> MOREEXM is working all right. I think the problem is that I can $B%( (Bt
> edit the GETAREA.ARA right. I haven $B%( (Bt figured how to use it. Would it
> be to bother you much to ask you to send me a GETAREA.ARA and the
> files it should point to? The GETAREA program I got from Itoh site
> doesn $B%( (Bt have the image files referred to in the sample  ARA file
>
> Thanks
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Antonio Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
> Porto - Portugal
> abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
> AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes
> --------------------------------------------------------

The .ARA file should contain the picture files of the database you are
working on.   I have no such database at the moment.  If I find some, I
will send them to you.

Toshiki Sasabe
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Subject:      ReÝ2¨: Help: PlayEx problem.
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On Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:35:34 0
"Antonio Menezes" <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

>
> >
> > First, you have wrong order of loading and unloading the TSR programs. If
> > you load programs A, B, C, D in this order before '200' command, you
> > should upload them in the order of D, C, B, A. Your autoexec.bat shows
> > confusion in this point.
> >
> > Second, Buddy should be loaded immediately before the System Manager (
> > '200' command).
>
> thanks for your reply. I've made a mess of my autoexec.bat. I
> corrected the errors but the problems continue. When leaving SysMan
> all the three program give the message "cannot remove" and the

This is the symptom that Buddy is not correctly unloaded.  The other
programs are unloaded (removed) by commands (with such options as /r),
but buddy unload itself by detecting the keystrokes.  Do you exit from
System Manager by correct manual keystrokes?  System macro or other
methods (API function call by other program etc) does not work correctly
with Buddy.

> machine hangs. I tried to substitute -l and -r for /l and /r, the
> machine doesn $B%( (Bt hang anymore but the alarms don $B%( (Bt play in DOS. I'm
> still stuck.

I do not understand this part. Do you mean you removed PlayEX?  If yes,
it is a correct behavior that PlayEX does not work when removed.

Toshiki Sasabe
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Greetings to the Mailing List,

Can anyone help, please?

I've had a request from a fellow Palmtopper in Oz for information on a
possible new version of WWW/LX.  He bought an Omnigo 700LX
(particularly for fax communication) which had a presumably early
version already installed.  There has been some positive publicity
about it recently but as I've got no interest in it at the moment, I
don't recall the details.  It is thought to be configured for a
provider in Singapore, and might make E-Mail connections easier.  Any
ideas would be welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>

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I am having a problem with News part of Post/LX. Mail works fine but
when the news part
connects with my server (Mindspring), I get following response:

                               "Processing comp.sys.handhelds
                                Message numbermode

                                Server-Says:Authentication required for
command"

Problem is I can not find any place in News setup to define Login and
Password for my NNTP
server. Is there a way of defining login and password in Post/LX news
reader?

Thanks for any hints,

Predrag

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On Sun, 24 Aug 1997, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> I'd like to be able to see a list -- all in one place -- so I can easily
> browse all of the to-do items that I have completed-- so I can evaluate

>   >I have recently moved back to using appt from a custom to-do
>   >database. One irritant that I have is that completed to-do's are
>   >located on the day they are done. This makes it hard to locate
>   >exactly when you completed a task. Has anyone written a to-do
>   >database and some marcos to move the completed ones to a .gdb for
>   >archiving?

> >One other solution is to use the program Global Search after pressing
> >F10 in the Appointment program to bring up your To Do list.
-------------------------

You could use the Print capability in Appt and generate a list of
completed todo's.  This capability will allow you select completed or
uncompleted todo's within a specified period.  If you print to file,
you'll be able to see all your data in a list with memo, filer, etc.

Alternatively, you can create a smart clip, look under Options-Smart Clip
and create a custom report in comma delimited format.  You can then use
the custom report and print to a *.cdf text file.  Using a database cdf
conversion utility to convert the resultant text file, you should be able
to generate a *.gdb file.  If you're feeling particulary creative, you
could use a combination of macros and batch files to automate the whole
task!

Just a thought...  and it might even work! ;-)

regards,

Jose

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Does anyone know if exit a PCMCIA card for Teletext on hp 200 lx?

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Hi,

The map calibration program with lxgps (avail. from S.U.P.E.R. site)
requires a 1 bit/pixel PCX image.  All of my scanning software
stores 8 bits/pixel.  The documentation refers to the availability of
freeware/shareware programs that will do this conversion, but I seem to
choose all the wrong keywords when trying to search for them.  Can
anybody recommend  a specific program?  I would prefer something that runs
under linux.   Thanks!!!!

                --jim
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Since yesterday a problem has occurred on my 200lx when opening Appt
Book. I get the message: 'Error, unable to retrieve next alarm.
Please close all applications & reopen ApptBook to enable alarm.'

I did as I'm told by the error message, but it keeps reoccurring. I
deleted the existing Appt Book and replaced it by backups: same
result.

I tested my alarms by creating new ones and by testing Stopwatch:
everything seems fine. But when the first alarm coming up is an
automatic backup of my Appt Book (by way of a macro: ||1, ||2) I get
the error message again. This is strange since I've been using thes
macro's for a couple of months now.

Does this ring a bell? Please let me know.

Thanks

Frank

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>Since yesterday a problem has occurred on my 200lx when opening Appt
>Book. I get the message: 'Error, unable to retrieve next alarm.
>Please close all applications & reopen ApptBook to enable alarm.'

Try deleting C:\_DAT\ALARM.Q and rebooting. The file is hidden and read-only
so you will need to change the attributes on it first.

Mitch

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> >Since yesterday a problem has occurred on my 200lx when opening Appt
> >Book. I get the message: 'Error, unable to retrieve next alarm.
> >Please close all applications & reopen ApptBook to enable alarm.'
>
> Try deleting C:\_DAT\ALARM.Q and rebooting. The file is hidden and read-only
> so you will need to change the attributes on it first.

Mitch,

thanks for your advise, but I'm afraid it doesn't work for me. I
changed the attributes of alarm.q with chmod.exe  and deleted it.
Then I rebooted my palmtop, but the problem persists.

hhmmm, I wonder why it occurred in the first place. It's quite
annoying!

Any more tips?


Regards

Frank

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----- forwarded message -----

Save your files as Line Art that is black and white only or download=
 "LXPCX" @ www.plamtop.net.  Try the super area
_______________________________________________________________
Karl D. Schuneman
Internet: kschunem@industrynet.net
810.749.5313 H
Copyright (c) 1997 by  Karl D. Schuneman.  All rights reserved.

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-----Original Message-----
From     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu ÝSMTP:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨
Sent     Monday, August 25, 1997 5:40 AM
To   Kschunem
Subject        Need PCX 8-bit to 1-bit converter


Hi,

The map calibration program with lxgps (avail. from S.U.P.E.R. site)
requires a 1 bit/pixel PCX image.  All of my scanning software
stores 8 bits/pixel.  The documentation refers to the availability of
freeware/shareware programs that will do this conversion, but I seem=
 to
choose all the wrong keywords when trying to search for them.  Can
anybody recommend  a specific program?  I would prefer something that=
 runs
under linux.   Thanks!!!!

                --jim
--

James Wolfer                       email: wolfer@andrews.edu
Andrews University
Computer Science Department
Berrien Springs, MI 49104-0360     phone: 616 471-3516
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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How much? Can you exchange data with ACT v3 for Win 95 with it?

Ken,


At 05:19 PM 8/22/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Interested in buying ACT! for HP's or ACT! DOS, complete with manual.
>
>e-mail me at address below.
>
>Thanks,
>Michael
>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           8/22/97 4:31:42 PM EDT
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I have a legal copy of Palm Connect that I can not use as it is not NT
compatible.
Anyone interested please e-mail me direct.

mailto:SSouza@iname.com

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This is a WTB.

But, to answer your question, the current version of ACT! should be able to sync with ACT! Win v3, according to Symantec docs.

--- On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:26:02 -0500  "Kenneth P. RUSSELL" <kpruss@RICE.EDU> wrote:

>How much? Can you exchange data with ACT v3 for Win 95 with it?
>
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World clock? The one in the 200 is a little weak.

JR

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I recently bought one of those flash cards discussed here from Sears
(PNY 8MB). When I plugged it in, and viewed the drive from filer (split
view, C: on left, A: on right), it showed the contents of some other
directory instead of the empty a: drive. I formatted the card, and this
did not help. Only after I copied some files to the card did I get the
correct file listing from Filer. It seems that Filer gets confused
about the contents of the flash disk when there are no files on it. Is
this a buf in Filer? Has anyone else seen this? Anyone care to try to
reproduce it?

David Satterfield
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<<Since yesterday a problem has occurred on my 200lx when opening Appt
Book. I get the message: 'Error, unable to retrieve next alarm.
Please close all applications & reopen ApptBook to enable alarm.'>>

I occassionally get this message if I have too many programs open and may=
be
a DOS program and there isn't enough memory for it to retrieve next alarm=
=2E
I just exit out of some programs and the problem goes away.

     Carl

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Some of you have sent messages to support@dasoft.com during the last
week and have not yet received an answer.

Messages to support@dasoft.com are mostly answered by Avi Meshar. I =
am
sad to inform you that Avi is very sick at the moment and cannot keep
up with the amount of messages sent to support@dasoft.com.

I am very sorry for both, the health of Avi and the time you have to
wait until your messages are answered.

Please allow a few days and do not re-post when you don't get an answer
immediately.

Thanks for your understanding and your patience!

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Philip Seyer wrote:
>
> Where did you get @@@/LX post plus?

Another proof of poor marketing........

JS

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>Transdigital Trans PC appeared in the 1996 PC Card review
   >(aka Bonus Issue 2).
   >Both reviews were written by Craig Payne.
   >He restated his preference
   >for the TransPC, citing "mechanical design, cabling and low price".

Transdigital card includes ROM disk, that is directly accesible as A:
drive on HP. Thus instalation is very quick. The card supports
"Hot-Swap", and has smaller power drain.


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David Satterfield wrote:

... I recently bought one of those flash cards
discussed here from Sears
... (PNY 8MB). When I plugged it in, and viewed
the drive from filer (split
... view, C: on left, A: on right), it showed the
contents of some other
... directory instead of the empty a: drive.

on the same facts, i had a different experience.
when i first plugged in my pny 8M from sears,
filer showed an empty card, with 8M available. my
hp is a 200lx, ser sg63702522.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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>Jose' Patrao
   >Leader of PPTUG - Portuguese Palmtop Users Group -
   >concerned with HP*** LX palmtops and handhelds.

Jose,

can you tell us more about what activities PPTUG does, how
many members it has, .... etc. etc.


Jan Sedlak - Portfolio Praha <mail@port-home.com>
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On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 04:35:56 -0400, you wrote:

>The map calibration program with lxgps (avail. from S.U.P.E.R. site)
>requires a 1 bit/pixel PCX image.  All of my scanning software
>stores 8 bits/pixel.  The documentation refers to the availability of
>freeware/shareware programs that will do this conversion, but I seem to
>choose all the wrong keywords when trying to search for them.  Can
>anybody recommend  a specific program?  I would prefer something that =
runs
>under linux.   Thanks!!!!

xview is the standard utility for picture conversion on Unix type
systems.

--=20
Neil Tungate.
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I seem to have the same problems installing GETAREA.
It's surprising that this came up now after so long.

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Subject:      Re: Alarm error in Appt Book

Date:         Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:06:25 +0000
From: Frank Ubachs <ubachs@MAIL.XS4ALL.NL>
Subject:      Alarm error in Appt Book

> Since yesterday a problem has occurred on my 200lx when opening Appt
> Book. I get the message: 'Error, unable to retrieve next alarm.
> Please close all applications & reopen ApptBook to enable alarm.'

>Does this ring a bell? Please let me know.

 Question; do you have any other programs that you can set alarms on?

The reason I am asking is that the exact same thing happened to me
today. ..bummer. When I checked, I had *no* alarm set on Appt Book, but had
one set in ACT!

 Just to check, I came out on reading your message, went into ACT! and set
an alarm to call a customer at 20:00 with a 5 minute lead time, came out
back and sat looking at clock with Appt Book open. What happened? At 19:55
the error message came up *exactly* as you had written.

 Interesting to find out if anybody else had this problem. A friend had
mentioned to me that he had a problem getting alarms out of ACT!, and I
jokingly suggested that he set an alarm in Appt. Book to remind about his
other alarm..:-) Cripes..Murphy was listening so made me pay..:-(

 Frank, sorry I could not provide a solution, just something else to think
about.

Best regards,


Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

Trinidad, West Indies.

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  Well, I've tried sending the following questions (and a number of
suggestions) to D&A Software (via: support@dasoft.com).  It's been a week
now with no response of any kind.  (Even called long distance and left a
voice-mail message.)  Anyone know if they're still alive??

  Here's the questions, rephrased to make sense in the mail-list context...
Hopefully someone here can help me get going with this neat new set of tools...

  1.  In the Post/LX news reader, it's possible to get a list of articles
and just download those I want to read.  Is there any way to do the same
with email?  (Since I usually recieve over 70 messages a day, it would be
VERY useful to be able to pick and choose which ones I want to transfer to
the palmtop.)

  2.  On a similar track, is there some way to manually limit the email
downloaded to just the last <n> messages, or messages after message number
<n>??  It seems like POST/LX always tries to download -all- messages if I
tell it to not delete old messages.

  Thanks,
       ... JLS
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Subject:      Re: Post/LX email questions

On 1997-08-26 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to ianmel@opus.co.tt

 HP>Well, I've tried sending the following questions (and a number of
 HP>suggestions) to D&A Software (via: support@dasoft.com).  It's been
 HP>a week now with no response of any kind.  (Even called long
 HP>distance and left a voice-mail message.)  Anyone know if they're
 HP>still alive??

There was a post to this list yesterday explaining the reasons for the
delay and asking for your indulgence...

 HP>1.  In the Post/LX news reader, it's possible to get a list of
 HP>articles and just download those I want to read.  Is there any way
 HP>to do the same with email?

Only available for usenet AFAIK.

 HP>2.  On a similar track, is there some way to manually limit the
 HP>email downloaded to just the last <n> messages, or messages after
 HP><n>message number ??

Same as above.

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>   1.  In the Post/LX news reader, it's possible to get a list of =
articles
> and just download those I want to read.  Is there any way to do the =
same

Yes. Please see the manual.

> with email?  (Since I usually recieve over 70 messages a day, it =
would be

No. That's not supported.

>   2.  On a similar track, is there some way to manually limit the =
email
> downloaded to just the last <n> messages, or messages after message =
number
> <n>??  It seems like POST/LX always tries to download -all- messages =
if I
> tell it to not delete old messages.

There is a new version in beta test that will only download *new*
messages.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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From:         "Douglas V. Mashek" <ctmashdv@ECSS04.NSD.FMC.COM>
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David Satterfield - High End Server Systems writes:
 > I recently bought one of those flash cards discussed here from Sears
 > (PNY 8MB). When I plugged it in, and viewed the drive from filer (split
 > view, C: on left, A: on right), it showed the contents of some other
 > directory instead of the empty a: drive. I formatted the card, and this
I did exactly the same thing.  What I got was an empty directory.  I
then made a a:\tmp directory and copied some files over there.  It
worked just fine.  I did all of this while I was still in the store.
 > did not help. Only after I copied some files to the card did I get the
 > correct file listing from Filer. It seems that Filer gets confused
 > about the contents of the flash disk when there are no files on it. Is
 > this a buf in Filer? Has anyone else seen this? Anyone care to try to
 > reproduce it?
 >
 > David Satterfield
 > Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone:     (508) 442-2669
 > 5 Omni Way, MS UCHL05-105         Fax:       (508) 442-1612
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Subject:      Re: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software
Comments: To: TeresaJ53@AOL.COM

     Where do you get a copy of www/lx for free even an old version?


     Thanks Yehuda.



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Subject:      Re: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software
Author:  PC:TeresaJ53@AOL.COM at INTERNET2
Date:    8/18/97 4:32 PM


Where do you purchase WWWLX ?  Found the info on the product but no price or
where to order.

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I too would urge D&A to do a bit more advertising.  I had to search for
a good while to find information about where to buy on the web.  On the
positive side, the folks at Shier were very helpful and offered me a
money back guarantee on the product.  Unfortunately I asked for my money
back after the product failed to work properly for me.  I tried for
several hours to get www/lx to receive a web page but it only timed out
on my request.  Avi insisted that I wasn't reading the manual, which was
certainly not the case.  I really would still like to get the product
working, but I don't want to give up $100 in the meanwhile.  I think a
demo would be appropriate to be able to see how the product performs.
Take Net-Tamer for example.  Although www/lx is a more polished looking
product, Nettamer had the advantage for me in that it worked for me
without a single hitch while being far less cumbersome in the setup.
Also, Nettamer is only $35 dollars if I remember correctly, and has
telnet and ftp built in. I currently don't see enough incentive from D&A
to convince me to give www/lx a second try. Maybe in the next release,
price drop, or maybe even demo version...

Marshall Erling

My views are my own and do not reflect those of The Boeing Company.


> ----------
> From:         Port-HomeÝSMTP:mail@PORT-HOME.COM¨
> Sent:         Monday, August 18, 1997 10:18 PM
> Subject:      Re: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software
>
> Philip Seyer wrote:
> >
> > Where did you get @@@/LX post plus?
>
> Another proof of poor marketing........
>
> JS
>
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Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
Filer).

This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate changes
to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).

I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
load/learn.

Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.

Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out to use
it. Thanks.

- Longden

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>Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
>viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
>view or edit 2 files concurrently?

I remember a couple of programmer's editors from years back called KEDIT and
QEDIT that would do this. I believe they were closely related if not the
same program. No idea where to turn them up now unless Simtel can help.

Mitch

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> I too would urge D&A to do a bit more advertising.  I had to search
> for
> a good while to find information about where to buy on the web.  On
> the
> positive side, the folks at Shier were very helpful and offered me a
> money back guarantee on the product.  Unfortunately I asked for my
> money
> back after the product failed to work properly for me.  I tried for
> several hours to get www/lx to receive a web page but it only timed
> out
> on my request.  Avi insisted that I wasn't reading the manual, which
> was
> certainly not the case.  I really would still like to get the product
> working, but I don't want to give up $100 in the meanwhile.  I think a
> demo would be appropriate to be able to see how the product performs.
> Take Net-Tamer for example.  Although www/lx is a more polished
> looking
> product, Nettamer had the advantage for me in that it worked for me
> without a single hitch while being far less cumbersome in the setup.
> Also, Nettamer is only $35 dollars if I remember correctly, and has
> telnet and ftp built in. I currently don't see enough incentive from
> D&A
> to convince me to give www/lx a second try. Maybe in the next release,
> price drop, or maybe even demo version...
>
> Marshall Erling
>
> My views are my own and do not reflect those of The Boeing Company.
>
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Port-HomeÝSMTP:mail@PORT-HOME.COM¨
> > Sent:         Monday, August 18, 1997 10:18 PM
> > Subject:      Re: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software
> >
> > Philip Seyer wrote:
> > >
> > > Where did you get @@@/LX post plus?
> >
> > Another proof of poor marketing........
> >
> > JS
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >  Portfolio Praha                      phone/fax + 420 2 691 11 63
> >  Support Center for Mobile Devices
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You might also want to look at some of the Emacs clones out there.  If you
know unix, then you'll like it.  MicroEmacs and another port (forgot the
name) are available on Simtel.

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There's a program which allows the hp to have two parallel system
manager windows - I think it's called TWIN, on S.U.P.E.R. (?) - so you
can run two MEMO sessions!
Jez


>Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file >viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to >view or edit 2 files concurrently?

I remember a couple of programmer's editors from years back called KEDIT
and QEDIT that would do this. I believe they were closely related if not
the same program. No idea where to turn them up now unless Simtel can
help.

Mitch

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Obvious question, here's the answer.... Broke my hinges and the tape cable
between top and bottom, sold (I think) display to another maladroit in
need, have bought a complete unit.  Motherboard 1 meg, works fine,
late version of ROM, I seem to recall, good battery cover, etc.

Offers?

/mark

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Yes, the program called QEdit (Semware Editor jr.) It is shareware. It
has a spell checker which can be installed with it. It is programmable
and quite small 67K in size. Strictly ASCII editor.

There is another program called VDE (Video Display Editor) that has the
same capability but I have not used it for a while and am not sure of
all the features. But it does have window capability and will read/write
Word documents.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo ÝSMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 11:09 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Side-by_side file viewer/editor
>
> Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
> viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
> view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
> Filer).
>
> This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate
> changes
> to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
>
> I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
> load/learn.
>
> Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
>
> Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out to
> use
> it. Thanks.
>
> - Longden
>
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I don't know if this my help or not but I remember from my DOS days that
Norton had an editor, very clean and small and powerful. It may work on the
LX200.

JR

At 02:05 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes, the program called QEdit (Semware Editor jr.) It is shareware. It
>has a spell checker which can be installed with it. It is programmable
>and quite small 67K in size. Strictly ASCII editor.
>
>There is another program called VDE (Video Display Editor) that has the
>same capability but I have not used it for a while and am not sure of
>all the features. But it does have window capability and will read/write
>Word documents.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Longden C. Loo ÝSMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM¨
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 11:09 AM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Side-by_side file viewer/editor
>>
>> Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
>> viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
>> view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
>> Filer).
>>
>> This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate
>> changes
>> to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
>>
>> I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
>> load/learn.
>>
>> Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
>>
>> Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out to
>> use
>> it. Thanks.
>>
>> - Longden
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try LXPIC
_______________________________________________________________
Karl D. Schuneman
Internet: kschunem@industrynet.net
810.749.5313 H
Copyright (c) 1997 by  Karl D. Schuneman.  All rights reserved.

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-----Original Message-----
From     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu ÝSMTP:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨
Sent     Monday, August 25, 1997 5:40 AM
T:   Kschunem
Subject        Need PCX 8-bit to 1-bit converter


Hi,

The map calibration program with lxgps (avail. from S.U.P.E.R. site)
requires a 1 bit/pixel PCX image.  All of my scanning software
stores 8 bits/pixel.  The documentation refers to the availability of
freeware/shareware programs that will do this conversion, but I seem=
 to
choose all the wrong keywords when trying to search for them.  Can
anybody recommend  a specific program?  I would prefer something that=
 runs
under linux.   Thanks!!!!

                --jim
--

James Wolfer                       email: wolfer@andrews.edu
Andrews University
Computer Science Department
Berrien Springs, MI 49104-0360     phone: 616 471-3516
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Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>
> Some of you have sent messages to support@dasoft.com during the last
> week and have not yet received an answer.
>
> Messages to support@dasoft.com are mostly answered by Avi Meshar. I am
> sad to inform you that Avi is very sick at the moment and cannot keep
> up with the amount of messages sent to support@dasoft.com.
>
> I am very sorry for both, the health of Avi and the time you have to
> wait until your messages are answered.
>
> Please allow a few days and do not re-post when you don't get an answer
> immediately.
>
> Thanks for your understanding and your patience!
>
> Andreas ÝD&A¨
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Sorry to hear about Avi.  I talked to him last Friday and he seemed to
be feeling better.  A relapse, maybe?
I have received and installed Post/LX but I receive an "Authentication
error" after I connect.  It seems to be just after it starts scanning
for messages.  WWW/LX is working fine dialing into the same ISP.  You
can call me at 800-722-9699 from 9-5 EST or email me if you know the
problem.

Jim Smith

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From:         "LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2 (703)604-2000 X6130"
              <cavendishlm.jfk@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      editors!
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as if there are not already enough text editor
choices, i just happened upon the following url:

http://www.polarnet.com/Files/Mirrors/Simtel2/disc
2/editor/00_index.htm

there a dozens of text editors of the free and
share variety there.  ved is there, as are some
add-ins which are intended to make it more
friendly.  i haven't tried vde, so i can't
comment.  i have wordperfect 5.1 for big jobs, and
use either the built in program or pal edit for
quickie's.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Here's an interesting anomaly.  Or maybe not.  I created a new database
using the built-in app and imported a text file created from Goldmine.
The database ended up being a rather large 275k (for a Palmtop database,
anyway) with about 1650 records.  I then defined a few subsets.  The
first time I activate a new subset, it takes the 200LX about 10 seconds
to display the subset.  The second time I activate the subset, it takes
even longer, maybe 15-40 seconds.  Subsequent activations of the subset,
however, are almost instantaneous even if the file is closed and
reopened.

Also, does anyone know if it is possible to sort the list of subsets.
It seems that each one is listed in the order in which it was entered.

Jim Smith

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I am a user of quicken for windows version 6. I would like to use a dos
version of quicken on my palmtop, and I have dos version 5 loaded. Howeve=
r,
the *.qif file I exported from the windows version is not recognized by t=
he
DOS version. Does anyone have experience doing what I am trying to do?  A=
ny
help would be appreciated.

Paul

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From:         "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      Re: WWW/lx for 200lx - PPP internet software

Out of fairness to D&A and their product, I would like to re-post the a message regarding WWW/LX and Post/LX. This will possibly benefit those who may have either overlooked my comment or missed it the first go-around. I hope nobody minds seeing it again but since the subject has been kicking around the last few days, I thought I would re-post (on my 200LX):

--------   ---------   ----------
I use the new version of WWW/LX with Post/LX for ALL of my E-mail and Newsgroup activities. I also use the Web Browser part of this fine product to travel the Internet, as well as write and update my web site. I travel a lot and changing access numbers for my ISP is very easy. There is a learning curve involved but it is an excellent product. I especially like the feature of reading and writing e-mail off-line. This means that every morning I press a button (pardon the lack of technical jargon) and come back later. My e-mail has been sent, received and phone line disconnected.
--------   ---------   ---------

I too am very intolerant with poorly designed product, hardware or software. I am equally intolerant of poor customer service. While it appears several are making statements that are not in favor of D&A and the WWW/LX product, I would like to make known my satisfaction. Avi was VERY helpful with my questions when his health was good. Although I am not being paid for this endorsement, I am always open to consideration :-). Perhaps this will serve as a bit of balance to the dicussion.
Sincerely,
Ken Moore
Training Manager
Omni Training Corp (Soldering Training)
http://www.OmniTraining.com

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     Hello,

     Has anyone noticed more problems arise with consistent NetTamer PPP
     connections when a 200LX is running off battery rather that AC?  That
     seems to be the case with my Palmtop.  Many of the problems I have
     experienced with NetTamer did not show up today when plugged into AC.
     I use a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem and Panasonic NiCad batteries.
      Thank you.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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At 16:00 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I am a user of quicken for windows version 6. I would like to use a dos
>version of quicken on my palmtop, and I have dos version 5 loaded. However,
>the *.qif file I exported from the windows version is not recognized by the
>DOS version. Does anyone have experience doing what I am trying to do?  Any
>help would be appreciated.
>
>Paul
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>
Quicken v6 uses an entierly new file format.  You can not move from it to
any earlier version of Quicken.  I'm using Quicken 6 onmy desktop, & the
builtin version of Pocket Quicken on my 200LX.  Although I tried Pocket
Quicken connect, I found it too restrictive, & now I simply keep the two
systems in line manually.  It's a bother, but the best solution I coud
find.  The very fine capabilities of the HP connectivity pack only work
with Quicken up to v 4, & can not be used with v6.

Sorry if this all sounds like bad news ... the proce of "progress"

dsp

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> I have received and installed Post/LX but I receive an "Authentication
> error" after I connect.  It seems to be just after it starts scanning
> for messages.  WWW/LX is working fine dialing into the same ISP. =



Probably the POP mailbox won't authenticate your POP login and
password - possibly one (or both) of these is not the same as
your dial-in login and password (those in your ISP setup for
WWW/LX).


Regards, Tony

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From:         "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Dennis Faucher wrote:
>      Has anyone noticed more problems arise with consistent NetTamer PPP
>      connections when a 200LX is running off battery rather that AC?  That
>      seems to be the case with my Palmtop.  Many of the problems I have
>      experienced with NetTamer did not show up today when plugged into AC.
>      I use a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem and Panasonic NiCad batteries.

I use the Mhz XJ3144 (14.4 modem) and Panasonic 1100mAh NiCads and
NetTamer. Most of my NT usage is straight off batteries and I haven't
noticed any differences compared to AC (in regards to NT).

My usage might be light tho...maybe only 30min per day, tops.

What kinds of problem do you notice?

- Longden

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I have a demo of "PGA Tour Golf" which runs quite nicely on the
200.  I may send it to Super if I find the time, or put it in my own
Ýnonexistant¨ repository, IDK.  Anyways, it's a lot like newer golf
games, 3D and stuff.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

----------
> Just in case anyone is interested, I found a golf game that will run =
on the
> HP, but isn't quite graphical (it's text graphics).  The URL is:
>
>  http://www2.netdoor.com/~whp1/games.html
>
> You should have no troubles finding it once you're there.  As a side =
note,
> there are a LOT of CGA games there, and all of them are pretty small. =
 If you
> want a game to waste a lot of time with, that's a good starting place.

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Subject:      need ace install file

I have an ace card but no disc i need the install file from the disc i seem
to have all other files on the ace card. I also have a sun disk how do i get
it to stack. i did not get an install disc with the card 10mb ata . tried to
copy ace info over but it won't stack? probably need to unmount or something.
any help please. tx Roy

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----- forwarded message -----

> Date          Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:07:55 -0700
> Reply-to      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> From          Jez <jez.cunningham@AHQPS.ALCATEL.FR>
> Organization  The Hi Speed company
> Subject       Re: Side-by_side file viewer/editor
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> >Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect)=
 file >viewer or perhaps editor that will
> >allow a vertical split screen to >view or edit 2 files concurrently?
>

I know two editor with this feacher
E! is french but available in english
and VDE. you can found this one on SUPER
I like E! for editing and programing but I like VDE because
it can work as a wordprocessor too.

Alain
wyn@alphalink.com.au
psy@antium.fr

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*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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> Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
> viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
> view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
> Filer).

I use Q-Edit aka TSEJr.  It is completely configurable so you can set up
the key strokes to behave like the HP built in apps (ie ctr+c == copy,
menu key == drop down menus etc.) and supports many programming type
features if that is what you are looking for.  You can open multiple
files and display them in split windows.  The pklited executable weighs
in at 46k, uncompressed 67k, perfet for the palmtop.  Semware have a
website but I don't have the URL handy at the moment...

regards
Murray
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> On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Dennis Faucher wrote:
> >      Has anyone noticed more problems arise with consistent NetTamer =
PPP
> >      connections when a 200LX is running off battery rather that =
AC?  That
> >      seems to be the case with my Palmtop.  Many of the problems =
I have
> >      experienced with NetTamer did not show up today when plugged =
into AC.
> >      I use a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem and Panasonic NiCad =
batteries
> I use the Mhz XJ3144 (14.4 modem) and Panasonic 1100mAh NiCads and
> NetTamer. Most of my NT usage is straight off batteries and I haven't
> noticed any differences compared to AC (in regards to NT).

I have also seen problems with nettamer while on (nicad) batteries =
using
an EXP1414LXM modem. There were a few occasions while I used nettamer =
that
I forgot to plug the adapter into the wall (although I plugged it into =
the
palmtop) and I would notice that after getting online the text sent =
by the
server scrolls past very sloooowly... until finally NT aborts reporting:
'script error - will retry"...

Regards,
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<< However, the *.qif file I exported from the windows version is not
recognized by the
DOS version. >>

The *.qif file is an ASCII text file that allows import and export. I thi=
nk
you need to import the file into Quicken 5. Should be on the menu
somewhere. If you cant find how to import, let me know and I'll look it u=
p.

     Carl

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From the psion.announce newsgroup:

> go to :http://www.palmtop.nl/spectrum.html
> and download the ZX SPECTRUM emulator for the S5!!!
> I think that's enought till there's enought native games for S5....

There surely is a DOS emulator for the ZX Spectrum - has anyone tried it
on the palmtop? The writer claims over 3000 shareware games are available
for the spectrum...

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> There surely is a DOS emulator for the ZX Spectrum - has anyone tried =
it
> on the palmtop?

Yup I tried a shareware one from ftp.gmd.de a year ago. It ran
too fast on the palmtop!! Could only be slowed down by
registering it AFAIK.

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        I have heard - on this mailing list, I think - of people using
Procomm Plus as a communications program. If so, then the stand-alone
editor portion of the package, PCedit, may be capable of doing what you
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Just a test to see if the HPLX server is down.  If there is just a
lull in the conversation, please forgive me.

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Hi,
does anybody know a comfortable way for importing an EXCEL (or maybe a text file) into the built database. I only know the other way round.

FRAX

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Suggestion:

Say:

I looked at: http://www.experienceware.com/palmtop.html

not:

I looked at :http://www.experienceware.com/palmtop.html

That way we can just click on the URL and jump to it.


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I wanted to get an Excel spreadsheet containing just names, phone numbers,
fax numbers, department info into the phone book.
It wasn't easy.  I finally gave up on a simple import.  I exported the
spreadsheet to a flat file.  I then had EasyShare (mentioned earlier on
this list)
read the flat file (where fields were delimited with spaces) and
automatically type the info into the phone book.
It took EasyShare a while to type in 200 names, but I didn't mind since
EasyShare did the hard work.

By the way, a free trial of EasyShare is available.  Contact Jim Holton at
jholton@ix.netcom.com.

 At 07:28 AM 8/27/97 +0200, Herrmann Frank Dr. (DN=HF27687B092B9B, MSMAIL,
DE_MCH_B00BE,    wrote:
>Hi,
>does anybody know a comfortable way for importing an EXCEL (or maybe a
text file) into the built database. I only know the other way round.
>
>FRAX
>
>Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Filetransfer from EXCEL to hp20"
>
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An advantage of the Norton editor is that it can edit any size file.
SHE can only handle files up to about 60 K in size.

At 11:30 AM 8/26/97 -0700, John Ramos wrote:
>I don't know if this my help or not but I remember from my DOS days that
>Norton had an editor, very clean and small and powerful. It may work on the
>LX200.
>
>JR
>
>At 02:05 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>Yes, the program called QEdit (Semware Editor jr.) It is shareware. It
>>has a spell checker which can be installed with it. It is programmable
>>and quite small 67K in size. Strictly ASCII editor.
>>
>>There is another program called VDE (Video Display Editor) that has the
>>same capability but I have not used it for a while and am not sure of
>>all the features. But it does have window capability and will read/write
>>Word documents.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Longden C. Loo ÝSMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM¨
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 11:09 AM
>>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>> Subject:      Side-by_side file viewer/editor
>>>
>>> Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
>>> viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
>>> view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
>>> Filer).
>>>
>>> This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate
>>> changes
>>> to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
>>>
>>> I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
>>> load/learn.
>>>
>>> Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
>>>
>>> Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out to
>>> use
>>> it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Longden
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SHE will do let you view and edit two files concurrently.
(SHE = Seyer Hyper Text Editor)
166.582 KB in size.

SHE has a few other nice features.

   It remembers that last file you were editing so if you just start
   SHE without a command line argument, you will be put back into
   the previous file with the cursor in the same position where you
   left it.

   It keeps a list of all of the files you edited previously.  You can jump to
   the exact cursor location in any of these files where you were previously
   working.

   You can jump to any file from within another file (like making a
hypertext jump)
   by putting the cursor on the file name (or on any blank space to the
left of the filename)
   and pressing a function key.  When you press Esc, you will return to your
   previous position in the first file.

   You can set up abbreviations for commonly accessed files.   For example,
   SHE A (in my setup always edits the autoexec.bat file)

   You can setup prototypes for programming functions that will be pasted
   into your current file automatically.  For example, if you type

      ascan and press F9

 SHE could immediate populate the line with:

      ascan(&arrayname,&memvartosearch,target,startingelem,elemstosearch)

... which is the FoxPro prototype for using the ASCAN function.

You set this up yourself, by creating the PROTO.TXT file that SHE uses.

You can setup your own help file so that when you put the cursor on
a word and press Ctrl-F1, a help window will pop up with info related
to the word in question.

WordStar (remember WordStar?) like keystrokes are used for deleting lines,
copying blocks, etc.

My favorite feature is the import feature.  You can easily import a section of
another file into your current file with a few keystrokes.

I developed SHE in 1988 while writing  *Understandng Hypertext Concepts
and Applications."   I wrote it with PDC Prolog

SHE is currently not available, but I could make it available if there is
an interest.




At 08:08 AM 8/26/97 -0700, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
>viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
>view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
>Filer).
>
>This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate changes
>to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
>
>I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
>load/learn.
>
>Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
>
>Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out to use
>it. Thanks.
>
>- Longden
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 Save the Excel spreadsheet as a Lotus 123 file (wk1)

Eric Smith
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> At 16:00 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >I am a user of quicken for windows version 6. I would like to use a dos
> >version of quicken on my palmtop, and I have dos version 5 loaded.
However,
> >the *.qif file I exported from the windows version is not recognized by
the
> >DOS version. Does anyone have experience doing what I am trying to do?
Any
> >help would be appreciated.
> >
> >Paul
>
>
> Quicken v6 uses an entirely new file format.  You can not move from it to
> any earlier version of Quicken.  I'm using Quicken 6 on my desktop, & the
> builtin version of Pocket Quicken on my 200LX.  Although I tried Pocket
> Quicken connect, I found it too restrictive, & now I simply keep the two
> systems in line manually.  It's a bother, but the best solution I could
> find.  The very fine capabilities of the HP connectivity pack only work
> with Quicken up to v 4, & can not be used with v6.
>
> Sorry if this all sounds like bad news ... the price of "progress"
>
> dsp


I use the same setup (ver 6 for win on D/T, built-in on 200LX).  The
database formats are certainly not compatible, but I use the QIF files in
both directions for about 10 accounts on a regular basis with no problems.

In fact, I've used this approach to reduce my PQ file size by deleting the
PQ files entirely and then exporting the account list, category list, and
transactions.
Something that might be a factor is that I only export 1 type of data
(transactions, account list, category list) at a time.

There is 1 quirk that annoys me... when a "split" transaction includes a
transfer to another account, it shows up as 2 separate transactions on the
other system.

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Once the subset is displayed, use F7 (sort) and set your criteria.  In the
future, the sort parameters will be used along with the record selection.

>
> Also, does anyone know if it is possible to sort the list of subsets.
> It seems that each one is listed in the order in which it was entered.
>
> Jim Smith

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> Just a test to see if the HPLX server is down.  If there is just =
a
> lull in the conversation, please forgive me.

Forgiven<G>. It's alive but every time I post a message (well
twice in the last 24 hours) it seems to get in but I also
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sending to eugeniop@tissa.com.ar .... is this a cunning way to
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At 12:57 27/08/97 +1000, you wrote:
>>From the psion.announce newsgroup:
>
>> go to :http://www.palmtop.nl/spectrum.html
>> and download the ZX SPECTRUM emulator for the S5!!!
>> I think that's enought till there's enought native games for S5....
>
>There surely is a DOS emulator for the ZX Spectrum - has anyone tried it
>on the palmtop? The writer claims over 3000 shareware games are available
>for the spectrum...

There are several spectrum emulator out there, some of them are neraly
perfect in emulation, but unfortunately they need quite a lot of processing
power in order to properly emulate the spectrum, so, no decent emulation
can be done in the 200lx.

Regards. Nacho.

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Since it appears that my appt.adb is corrupt (alarm error), I tried
to go back to my most recent backup. Unfortunately, the same problems
occur in this version too.

Now, I tried to extract valuable information from my database (which
is still quite accessible) to build a fresh one, but neither
removing, extracting nor merging (parts of) adb's seems to be
possible anymore. I get error messages all the time (not enough
internal memory; record not found, cannot open etc.). The resulting
file, if any, gets quite large (some 200K).

So, eventually, I tried my luck with Garlic to restore at least part
of my original appt.adb. No luck. I do get a reasonable copy of
appt.adb, but I still cannot manipulate the data it contains in a way
to build a flawless ApptBook.

So, basically, I've got a corrupt but up-to-date adb and I can create
an empty  one without all the garbage.

What could I do to save my data?

Frank

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Qedit (TSE jr.) can open a file in memory, the size is limited to the
amount of memory available. VDE is able to handle larger files as it is
a full blown word processor but is still quite small about 80K without
spell checker.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Seyer ÝSMTP:pseyer@BEST.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 02:05 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Side-by_side file viewer/editor
>
> An advantage of the Norton editor is that it can edit any size file.
> SHE can only handle files up to about 60 K in size.
>
> At 11:30 AM 8/26/97 -0700, John Ramos wrote:
> >I don't know if this my help or not but I remember from my DOS days
> that
> >Norton had an editor, very clean and small and powerful. It may work
> on the
> >LX200.
> >
> >JR
> >
> >At 02:05 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Yes, the program called QEdit (Semware Editor jr.) It is shareware.
> It
> >>has a spell checker which can be installed with it. It is
> programmable
> >>and quite small 67K in size. Strictly ASCII editor.
> >>
> >>There is another program called VDE (Video Display Editor) that has
> the
> >>same capability but I have not used it for a while and am not sure
> of
> >>all the features. But it does have window capability and will
> read/write
> >>Word documents.
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Longden C. Loo ÝSMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM¨
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 11:09 AM
> >>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >>> Subject:      Side-by_side file viewer/editor
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect)
> file
> >>> viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen
> to
> >>> view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual
> screens in
> >>> Filer).
> >>>
> >>> This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate
> >>> changes
> >>> to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
> >>>
> >>> I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
> >>> load/learn.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
> >>>
> >>> Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out
> to
> >>> use
> >>> it. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> - Longden
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Michael S Goggin wrote:
>
> Once the subset is displayed, use F7 (sort) and set your criteria.  In the
> future, the sort parameters will be used along with the record selection.
>
> >
> > Also, does anyone know if it is possible to sort the list of subsets.
> > It seems that each one is listed in the order in which it was entered.
> >
> > Jim Smith
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Thanks for the suggestion but I think you might have misunderstood the
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>SHE will do let you view and edit two files concurrently.
>(SHE =3D Seyer Hyper Text Editor)
>166.582 KB in size.
>
>SHE has a few other nice features.
>
>   It remembers that last file you were editing so if you just start
>   SHE without a command line argument, you will be put back into
>   the previous file with the cursor in the same position where you
.........
.........
>I developed SHE in 1988 while writing  *Understandng Hypertext Concepts
>and Applications."   I wrote it with PDC Prolog
>
>SHE is currently not available, but I could make it available if there=
 is
>an interest.

Hi!

Sounds very interesting and I would deffinately be interested in your
program!

Regards,

Jorgen




At 08:08 AM 8/26/97 -0700, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
>viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
>view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens=
 in
>Filer).
>
>This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate changes
>to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
>
>I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
>load/learn.
>
>Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
>
>Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out=
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>it. Thanks.
>
>- Longden
>
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VDE is shareware and is available on the SUPER site or if you have it
the Palmtop Newspaper CD The current version is 18f. I have used older
versions and did like it but switched to QEdit based on size and ASCII
requirements.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorgen Wallgren ÝSMTP:jorgen@palmtop.net¨
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 04:36 PM
> To:   ssouza@EXCHG.CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL
> Subject:      Re: Side-by_side file viewer/editor
>
> Hi!
>
> >There is another program called VDE (Video Display Editor) that has
> the
> >same capability but I have not used it for a while and am not sure of
> >all the features. But it does have window capability and will
> read/write
> >Word documents.
>
> This sounds like what I have been searching for- a long time. I would
> highly
> appreciate if you could inform me where to get a copy of this program.
> Is it
> freeware, shareware or an old commercial program?
>
> Looking forward to your reply.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jorgen Wallgren
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> I have received and installed Post/LX but I receive an "Authentication
> error" after I connect.  It seems to be just after it starts scanning

This means that either your login or your password (or both) for the
POP3 server are incorrect. Please check your settings in SETUP.

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On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Barton, Murray wrote:

> > Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
> > viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
> > view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
> > Filer).
>
> I use Q-Edit aka TSEJr.  It is completely configurable so you can set up
> the key strokes to behave like the HP built in apps (ie ctr+c == copy,
> menu key == drop down menus etc.) and supports many programming type
> features if that is what you are looking for.  You can open multiple
> files and display them in split windows.  The pklited executable weighs

Thanks to all who responded about my query. Seems there's no shortage of
text editors, that's certain <g>. I'm still running down a few of them.

Most are shareware ($35-$60 to register) or take more than the 132k I'm
willing to give up for DOS apps (tho VDE and several were smaller).

Lynn Cavendish's suggested Simtel URL:
http://www.polarnet.com/Files/Mirrors/Simtel2/disc2/editor/00_index.htm

was quite useful in getting most of the suggested editors.

Would be nice if PALEdit or someother LX-friendly editor/viewer had a dual
screen capability. I don't know about the rest of you, but using editors
on mainframes, Unix and PC's runs my brain ragged trying to remember
all the CTRL/ALT key combinations <g>.

Thanks again all.

- Longden

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While discussing the new crop of palmtops the other day with some
friends, the question came up as to how old the LX was (many thought it
was a recent thing...like the CE machines).

I know the LX's are several years old (including the 200).

Does anyone in this group have the specific year of introduction for each
of the LX models (95/100/200)?

- Longden

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> Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
> viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
> view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
> Filer).

I have used PE 2 (Personal Editor II) for all kinds of editing/wp
tasks for > 10 years.  It's fully configurable, with macros, and is
only 75k, but you may have a hard time finding it.  It was written
by Jim Willie at IBM.

On another note...is it too much to ask folks to use the <enter> key
liberally.  I have noticed a proliferation of lines which go off the
end of the screen, and it's annoying to have to chase those messages
off to the right.  Seems like 70 character margins would allow good
buffer for copied lines and such.

Dennis Bell
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Subject:      Re: Filetransfer from EXCEL to hp200lx database ?
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On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Herrmann Frank Dr. (DN=HF27687B092B9B, MSMAIL, DE_MCH_B00BE,              SCN) wrote:

> Hi,
> does anybody know a comfortable way for importing an EXCEL (or maybe a text file) into the built database. I only know the other way round.

From Excel, "Save As" a 'Comma delimited' (.csv) file.

Then use one of several programs on the Eddie or Monash FTP sites to
import the .csv file into a .gdb  (I use gdbload, from gdb102.zip).

- Longden

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I have bought a PALMTOP from few, Hp200LX.
I have proven to insert a PCMCIA modem of the UsRobotics from 14.4Kb,
but the computer has stopped function and it doesn't ignite more.
I want to know
- In these cases which it are the correct mode of reconditioning?

- Which modem could be used with this computer.

- In Italy a net of alternative reparation to the HP exists?

Thank you

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I have bought a palmtop from few, Hp200LX.
I have interested to buy PCMCIA cards of varied type modem and
expansions of memory ( flash ram )

I want to have any address (on Internet) to which turn me.




Thank you

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I have bought a palmtop from few , Hp200LX.
I have interested to buy programs for such commodity


I want to have any address (on Internet) to which turn me.

I want also to know that withered difference among Intellisync,
tfwin200.exe, Connectivity Pack and similar commodities of connection
and synchronization.

Thank you

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I'd the same problem my modem was usr robotics 14.4.

I changed it and everything is running.

But if you want you can use it in this way:

1) insert PCMCIA
2) use your ac adaptec and plug in you palmtop
3) press ON and if don't work press CTRL-SHIFT-ON
4) the system ask if you want to initialize the ram replay off course
'N'



Chiossi Andrea wrote:

> I have bought a PALMTOP from few, Hp200LX.
> I have proven to insert a PCMCIA modem of the UsRobotics from 14.4Kb,
> but the computer has stopped function and it doesn't ignite more.
> I want to know
> - In these cases which it are the correct mode of reconditioning?
>
> - Which modem could be used with this computer.
>
> - In Italy a net of alternative reparation to the HP exists?
>
> Thank you
>
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HI ALL:

I WILL AUTOMATE THE LAUNCHING OF 123 WITH A SPECIFIC FILENAME.
WHILE THE CURSOR IS IN A MEMO, NOTETAKER, PHONE,
OR DATABASE RECORD, IN A SEPARATE LINE I PUT THE COMPLETE
FILE NAME WITH DRIVE SPECIFICATION (EG.: A:\123\ORDER.WK1).

THEN I WILL COPY (OR LAUNCH A MACRO) THIS LINE TO CLIPBOARD
AND THEN I PASTE THIS TEXT (OR WITH A MACRO) IN THE FILE/RETRIEVE
COMMAND OF 123.

BUT THE 123 DON'T ACCEPT THE COMMAND PASTE (MANUAL AND VIA-MACRO).

I REMEMBER THE STANDARD VERSION 2.4 FOR DOS USE THE COMMAND LINE
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For one thing, Transfile Win 200 is free.  Just download from the HP website.

--- On Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:25:56 -0700  Chiossi Andrea <A.CHIOSSI@CDC.IT> wrote:

>I want also to know that withered difference among Intellisync,
>tfwin200.exe, Connectivity Pack and similar commodities of connection
>and synchronization.

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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           8/27/97 1:24:25 PM EDT
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Why you don't use KEYSTUFF.ZIP?

Your can download it from SUPER

Bye

LUCA ZANETTI wrote:

> HI ALL:
>
> I WILL AUTOMATE THE LAUNCHING OF 123 WITH A SPECIFIC FILENAME.
> WHILE THE CURSOR IS IN A MEMO, NOTETAKER, PHONE,
> OR DATABASE RECORD, IN A SEPARATE LINE I PUT THE COMPLETE
> FILE NAME WITH DRIVE SPECIFICATION (EG.: A:\123\ORDER.WK1).
>
> THEN I WILL COPY (OR LAUNCH A MACRO) THIS LINE TO CLIPBOARD
> AND THEN I PASTE THIS TEXT (OR WITH A MACRO) IN THE FILE/RETRIEVE
> COMMAND OF 123.
>
> BUT THE 123 DON'T ACCEPT THE COMMAND PASTE (MANUAL AND VIA-MACRO).
>
> I REMEMBER THE STANDARD VERSION 2.4 FOR DOS USE THE COMMAND LINE
> FROM DOS: 123 -W<NOMEFILE.WK1>, TO AUTOMATING RETRIEVE AND OPEN A FILE
>
> WHEN YOU START.
>
> LUCA ZANETTI, ITALY
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Check out these webpages:

http://www.palmtop.net/super.html
http://www.io.com/~rob/hp200lx/
http://www.thaddeus.com/ptp.htm

have fun,
Owen




At 18:25 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I have bought a palmtop from few , Hp200LX.
>I have interested to buy programs for such commodity
>
>
>I want to have any address (on Internet) to which turn me.
>
>I want also to know that withered difference among Intellisync,
>tfwin200.exe, Connectivity Pack and similar commodities of connection
>and synchronization.
>
>Thank you
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:49:00 +1000."
              <199708270047.KAA05205@cdn-mail.telecom.com.au>

Regarding TSEJr, Murray Barton wrote:

> Semware have a website but I don't have the URL handy at the moment...

    http://www.semware.com/

                                -Jim.

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I have just bought a HP200lx and i would like to have a game of chess for it. Does anybody know of a shareware/freeware chess game (like gnu chess)?

What about a simple fax program?

Thankyou in advance...

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Applied Mathematics and Physics
Odense University, Denmark
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> While discussing the new crop of palmtops the other day with some
> friends, the question came up as to how old the LX was (many thought =
it
> was a recent thing...like the CE machines).

> Does anyone in this group have the specific year of introduction =
for each
> of the LX models (95/100/200)?

I hope this information is accurate but there is a possible margin =
of
error of about +/- 2~3 months <g>. The (US$) prices are taken mainly =
from
adverts by Ace Technologies and my personal memory so you know what =
to
expect :-)

The initial attempt of the HP Corvallis engineers to gain management's
permission to start actual development on project 'Jaguar' (codename =
for
the upcoming 95LX) was early in August 1989. Lotus signed up the following=

month and the rest is as they say... history!

        ------------------------------------
        Unit                      Price
        ------------------------------------
        HP95LX 512K   -> Sep-91   $ n/a
        HP95LX 1Mb    -> Apr-92   $ n/a
        HP100LX 1Mb   -> May-93   $529
        HP100LX 2Mb   -> Jan-94   $749
        HP200LX 1/2Mb -> Jul-94   $495/695
        HP200LX 4Mb   -> May-97   $675

PS: An interesting article on the development of the HP Palmtops appeared
in the PTP's Nov/Dec 93 issue.

Regards,
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Subject:      Re. BYTE article

Hi folks,

Here is a copy of a letter I just forwarded to Byte Magazine, for your info.
Feel free to make comments and forward similar letters to other journals that
would do the infamous mistake of not including the 200LX in their handheld
reviews.

<< BEGIN QUOTE >> Letter to the Editors, Byte Magazine

Dear Editor,

I appreciate your magazine and read it with interest every months, though it
tends to become too much oriented towards Microsoft products

In the Hardware lab report on Handheld PCs "Handhelds get serious" by Michelle
Campanale that was published in your August 1997 issue, I was deceived to see
that one of the units on the market that could have the most interest to your
readership of computer-litterate people and programmers has been left out.

Besides having all the usual PIM applications, the Hewlett-Packard 200LX
palmtop PC is an IBM PC XT-compatible, Intel 80186-based computer with a CGA
display. Compared to the Windows CE units you seemed to be promoting, the
applications that can be run by this DOS-based computer are much more powerful
than the crippled-down versions of desktop software that are proposed with
Windows CE: This includes full-blown versions of word processors (such as
Wordperfect 5.1), spreadsheets (Lotus 123 release 2.4 comes in ROM), databases,
speciality packages such as MathCad or CAD software, and even MS Windows 3.0.
Other available applications include Online Services and Internet access
software featuring graphical Web Browsers. Furthermore, the main advantage of
the HP200LX over Windows CE machines is that it doesn't need a high-end desktop
PC running Windows NT to support application development: Applications can
simply be developped on the palmtop itself, using a variety of widely available
Software Development Environments (such as Borland C++ 2.0, MS Quick C 2.51,
Turbo Pascal 7.0...).

The HP200LX is even smaller than most of the machines you reviewed and comes
with 2 or 4 MB of RAM and a PCMCIA slot that provides room for expandability
and additional storage. There is also a version, the Omnigo 700LX, that
includes a cellular phone and wireless modem for cellular networks (similar in
concept to the Nokia 9000 Communicator that was featured in your article).

All the above makes the HP200LX ideal as a portable software development
platform and engineering calculator. It personally find it to be an excellent
Laptop replacement. Despite the lack of marketing support from HP for this
unit, it stands out as a wonder of engineering and should not be overlooked.

As far as Windows CE units are concerned, it might be worth noting that some of
the latest subnotebook computers, such as the IBM PC 110 and Toshiba Libretto,
have about the same form factor, and yet run full-blown Windows 95 and
full-featured desktop applications.

(Disclaimer: I do not work for HP, nor do I have any financial interest in the
company. The above is just my opinion as a buyer that do not let marketing
dictate his conduct and rather makes a careful review of his own needs before
going out to find the product that best matches his requirements).

Sincerely,

 Francois Ennesser
 100774.3617@compuserve.com

<< END QUOTE >>

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Ok, I'm now aware that there's a documented problem when using zip.com in
an NT DOS shell.  To make it work, I sometimes have to drop the connection
speed to 2400 baud!!!  Has anyone figured out a way to make zip.com run
faster when used on an NT box??


...lars

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My login name and password are O.K. I am able to connect to Mindspring
server for
browsing the web and I have no problem receiving and sending email only
connecting
to Mindspring news server. I have send you my WWW.CFG file please revue
and
let me know.

Thanks,
Predrag Mirkovic
Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > I have received and installed Post/LX but I receive an
> "Authentication
> > error" after I connect.  It seems to be just after it starts
> scanning
>
> This means that either your login or your password (or both) for the
> POP3 server are incorrect. Please check your settings in SETUP.
>
> Andreas ÝD&A¨
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Hi all,
        I just started using the program "GDBIO" and find it nice and easy to use
so far.  My problem, though, is that I'm a novice "C" programmer, and I'm
finding it hard to figure out how to read the "dumped" records into a
program and address the fields.
        I've been a professional mainframe programmer for many years, so I'm quite
familiar with how COBOL programs handle file input.  Right now, though, I'm
struggling with trying do decide between using fgets, fscanf, fread, etc.
I see two possible problems:  1) the double-quotes around the field
contents seem to be "in the way", and 2) since a particular field can vary
in length from record to record, I don't see how I can declare a structure
that will let me address each individual field.
        I'd also like to be able to "spin" though the file the way I would do with
a flat file on the mainframe - by reading each record, testing field
values, and either using the record or "spinning" until I find the ones I
want.
        Sorry for bothering you all with such mundane C programming questions, but
I'm really lost on this one!  I flipped through about a dozen "C" books the
other day, and just got more confused the more I read!
        Thanks for any help you can provide.

Harris

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The Gnuish project, mirrored on Simtel (www.simtel.net/simtel.net/), has =
a port
of patch level sixty something of GNU Chess.  It runs reasonably on the =
200, but
you'll need an ANSI driver.

Fax programs are available from the SUPER site (www.palmtops.net).  Maybe=
 its
www.palmtop.net, I don't remember

Hope this helps.  I thought about sending this as private mail but its =
a pain in the
butt to change the reply address in Internet Explorer Mail.  Sorry 'bout =
that...

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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> I have just bought a HP200lx and i would like to have a game of chess =
for it.
> Does anybody know of a shareware/freeware chess game (like gnu chess)?
>
> What about a simple fax program?

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From:         Eduardo Cesana <ecesana@E-NET.COM.BR>
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If you are not portuguese speaking please ignore this message.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Aproveitando a solicitacao do contacto com o PPTUG aproveito o ensejo
para entrar em contacto com os usuarios de Palmtop em ligua
portuguesa.

A proposito como e' que voces tem feito para acentuar na edicao de
texto.

Eu por exemplo uso o comando keyb.com para habilitar o teclaopd ao
modo Portugues Brasileiro, mas so funciona em modo DOS. Nao funciona
no modo normal.


Ý¨s


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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> > >
> > > Also, does anyone know if it is possible to sort the list of subsets.
> > > It seems that each one is listed in the order in which it was entered.
> > >
> > > Jim Smith
> >

> > Michael S Goggin wrote:
> >
> > Once the subset is displayed, use F7 (sort) and set your criteria.  In
the
> > future, the sort parameters will be used along with the record
selection.
> >

> Thanks for the suggestion but I think you might have misunderstood the
> question.  I want to sort the "view subset" screen.
>
> JS

My apologies; I certainly did misunderstand.

Now that I do understand, that is something I would be interested in too.
If you find a way, let us know.

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From:         Roy Stroud <Agentrapid@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hp200LX Programs

 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/freewhl44/index.html">Dominoes Games and Palm
top Games</A>  <A HREF="http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/itojun/HPLX/">HP95/
100/200LX internet resources</A>  <A HREF="http://www.io.com/~rob/hp200lx/">HP
 Palmtop Pages: Main Page</A>  <A HREF="aol://5863:126/comp.sys.palmtops">comp
.sys.palmtops (unread)</A>  <A HREF="http://www.palmtop.net/">The Palmtop Netw
ork</A>  <A HREF="http://www.palmtop.net/super.html">S.U.P.E.R.</A>  <A HREF="
http://www.thaddeus.com/ptp.htm">The HP Palmtop Paper ONLINE!</A>  <A HREF="ht
tp://www.yahoo.com/Computers/Hardware/PDAs/Hewlett_Packard_100/">Yahoo! - Comp
uters and Internet:Hardware:PDAs:Hewlett-Packard 100</A>    try these sites
just click on them.

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 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/freewhl44/index.html">Dominoes Games and Palm
top Games</A>  <A HREF="http://www.yahoo.com/Computers/Hardware/PDAs/Hewlett_P
ackard_100/">Yahoo! - Computers and Internet:Hardware:PDAs:Hewlett-Packard 100
</A>  <A HREF="http://www.palmtop.net/super.html">S.U.P.E.R.</A>  <A HREF="htt
p://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/itojun/HPLX/">HP95/100/200LX internet resource
s</A> try these sites just click on them. Roy

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Yeah, but I wanted the data in the phone book!

At 11:13 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
> Save the Excel spreadsheet as a Lotus 123 file (wk1)
>
>Eric Smith
>MBGP Race Director
>eesmith@sprynet.com
>http://mbgp.com
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Thanks for writing that letter. I hope to write a similar
one myself.

At 05:10 PM 8/27/97 EDT, you wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>Here is a copy of a letter I just forwarded to Byte Magazine, for your info.
>Feel free to make comments and forward similar letters to other journals that
>would do the infamous mistake of not including the 200LX in their handheld
>reviews.
>
><< BEGIN QUOTE >> Letter to the Editors, Byte Magazine
>
>Dear Editor,
>
>I appreciate your magazine and read it with interest every months, though it
>tends to become too much oriented towards Microsoft products
>
etc.

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You could do this with EasyShare.  Easyshare could read
the file name from, say, the reminder record and then issue
the keystrokes needed.

At 06:58 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>HI ALL:
>
>I WILL AUTOMATE THE LAUNCHING OF 123 WITH A SPECIFIC FILENAME.
>WHILE THE CURSOR IS IN A MEMO, NOTETAKER, PHONE,
>OR DATABASE RECORD, IN A SEPARATE LINE I PUT THE COMPLETE
>FILE NAME WITH DRIVE SPECIFICATION (EG.: A:\123\ORDER.WK1).
>
>THEN I WILL COPY (OR LAUNCH A MACRO) THIS LINE TO CLIPBOARD
>AND THEN I PASTE THIS TEXT (OR WITH A MACRO) IN THE FILE/RETRIEVE
>COMMAND OF 123.
>
>BUT THE 123 DON'T ACCEPT THE COMMAND PASTE (MANUAL AND VIA-MACRO).
>
>I REMEMBER THE STANDARD VERSION 2.4 FOR DOS USE THE COMMAND LINE
>FROM DOS: 123 -W<NOMEFILE.WK1>, TO AUTOMATING RETRIEVE AND OPEN A FILE
>WHEN YOU START.
>
>LUCA ZANETTI, ITALY
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Another HP user wrote:

> I do have a flashcard, 4Meg stacked
>to almost 8Meg, which has nearly 2Meg spare and consequently I wonder
>whether SHE can be efficiently placed on this A-drive to control files
>on the C-drive.
>

Sure, you can put SHE on any drive.  Some setup is required, though,
because SHE has to know where her main startup document is.
When you start SHE with no command line arguments, she always
jumps into the last file you were editing, unless SHE's file list is
empty.  In that case, SHE jumps into a default startup file.

By the way, SHE does require
some small support files -- files that she uses to keep track of things
like abbreviations for commonly used files, the list of files you have
edited, etc.

>A further query is whether the "side-by-side" description is literal,
>like tiling vertically as in Windows applications, or whether the two
>files are displayed one above the other, which in some ways would
>minimise word wrap problems.  I also wonder if this programme is
>adaptable to a Windows environment.

The files are displayed side-by-side -- one on the left, one on the right.
If you want to zoom either one to full screen, you can by pressing
a function key.  Only one of the files is active at a time.  You press
a key to jump forward or backward.  You can jump forward or
backward among all the files you have edited--not just two.

ÝYou have to be careful when making "hypertext jumps" -- I designed
SHE so she abandons any changes to the current document when
she makes a hypertext jump.  A hypertext jump is when you put
the cursor on (or to the left of) any filename in the current
file and press a function key.  ¨  If you want to save your current
work before making a hypertext jump, just tap F2 before making
the jump.  Hypertext jumps are useful when you have a main
controlling document that lists the names of all the other files
you want to edit.  Then you can just scroll down to the file
name and press a function key to jump into the file.

Regarding wordwrap.  You can turn it on or off.  Sometimes it is
useful not to have any wordwrap.

SHE runs nicely *under* Windows.  It is a DOS program, but
you can set up an ICON for it on your desktop or just run it by typing SHE
at the "run" command line.  I've run SHE under Windows 3.1, Windows 95,
and Windows NT 4.0.

I'm thinking of making SHE shareware, with a registration price of, say,
$9.95, which would give you support and an opportunity to suggest
enhancements and get a free upgrade.

There are a lot of editors out there, but SHE has some unique hypertext
qualities that other editors don't have.  What do you think about
the shareware idea?



At 08:35 AM 8/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>SHE will do let you view and edit two files concurrently.
>>(SHE = Seyer Hyper Text Editor)
>>166.582 KB in size.
>>
>>SHE has a few other nice features.
>>
>>   It remembers that last file you were editing so if you just start
>>   SHE without a command line argument, you will be put back into
>>   the previous file with the cursor in the same position where you
>.........
>.........
>>I developed SHE in 1988 while writing  *Understandng Hypertext Concepts
>>and Applications."   I wrote it with PDC Prolog
>>
>>SHE is currently not available, but I could make it available if there is
>>an interest.
>
>Hi!
>
>Sounds very interesting and I would deffinately be interested in your
>program!
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen
>
>
>
>
>At 08:08 AM 8/26/97 -0700, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>>Anyone know if there's a relatively simple (ie, not WordPerfect) file
>>viewer or perhaps editor that will allow a vertical split screen to
>>view or edit 2 files concurrently? (something like the dual screens in
>>Filer).
>>
>>This would make it easier to compare similar files or coordinate changes
>>to 2 files simultaneously (I find myself doing that alot).
>>
>>I know emacs does this...but it's still a bit more than I want to
>>load/learn.
>>
>>Of course, both screens must allow scrolling vertically and horiz.
>>
>>Would prefer it to be small enough that I don't have to MaxDOS out to use
>>it. Thanks.
>>
>>- Longden
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Date:         Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:30:29 -0400
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Does anyone know of a reliable public nntp server ?  The list of public
nntp server on the internet seems to be hit-and-miss.

Thanks in advance,
Xerxez.

Xerxez M. Calilung, D.D.S.
Founder/President, Dentalxchange Inc.
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> My login name and password are O.K. I am able to connect to Mindspring
> server for
> browsing the web

The login and password for establishing a connection to your ISP (the
data you have to enter in WWWSETUP) are not necessarily identical with
the login and password you need to access your POP3 account. The latter
needs to be specified in SETUP (POST/LX).

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Philip Seyer wrote:
>
> Yeah, but I wanted the data in the phone book!
>
> At 11:13 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
> > Save the Excel spreadsheet as a Lotus 123 file (wk1)
> >
> >Eric Smith
> >MBGP Race Director
> >eesmith@sprynet.com
> >http://mbgp.com
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I think GDBIO (available from S.U.P.E.R.) can import and export comma
delimited text into "Database" or "Phonebook".

JS

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> Here is a copy of a letter I just forwarded to Byte Magazine, for =
your info.
> Feel free to make comments and forward similar letters to other journals=
 that
> would do the infamous mistake of not including the 200LX in their =
handheld
> reviews.

A very well-written account of the strengths of the 200LX! Let's see =
if
Byte publishes it...

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Subject:      Re: Thumbelina and Word5 for DOS

I just got a Thumbelina mouse and installed the driver on my HPLX (with
speed chip).  The TSR says it is installed on COM1 but when I open word5
nothing happens.  I also have a mouse test program (came with Thumbelina)
and the mouse does not access it either.  Has anyone set up a mouse for the
HP who could help me with this?  Thanks for any advice.
Ron

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Can you offer any suggestions for getting the 640x200 screen to work as
320x200?  I'm trying to load Autocad Release 10, and when I configure it
for CGA, I get a screen that looks like two halves of an interlaced
mode, side by side.  I've tried uploading and running DOS 5.0's MODE
utility, but that didn't help.  HP's tech support didn't have a clue,
although Notebook Warehouse Supply told me that "someone" had gotten
Autocad to display correctly, but of course they didn't remember who.

David

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Many thanks Ian.

Makes me wonder if the CE devices will age as gracefully<g>.

- Longden

On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Ian Melville wrote:

> > While discussing the new crop of palmtops the other day with some
> > friends, the question came up as to how old the LX was (many thought it
> > was a recent thing...like the CE machines).
>
> > Does anyone in this group have the specific year of introduction for each
> > of the LX models (95/100/200)?
>
> I hope this information is accurate but there is a possible margin of
> error of about +/- 2~3 months <g>. The (US$) prices are taken mainly from
> adverts by Ace Technologies and my personal memory so you know what to
> expect :-)
>
> The initial attempt of the HP Corvallis engineers to gain management's
> permission to start actual development on project 'Jaguar' (codename for
> the upcoming 95LX) was early in August 1989. Lotus signed up the following
> month and the rest is as they say... history!
>
>         ------------------------------------
>         Unit                      Price
>         ------------------------------------
>         HP95LX 512K   -> Sep-91   $ n/a
>         HP95LX 1Mb    -> Apr-92   $ n/a
>         HP100LX 1Mb   -> May-93   $529
>         HP100LX 2Mb   -> Jan-94   $749
>         HP200LX 1/2Mb -> Jul-94   $495/695
>         HP200LX 4Mb   -> May-97   $675
>
> PS: An interesting article on the development of the HP Palmtops appeared
> in the PTP's Nov/Dec 93 issue.

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Can you tell me how to enter a WEB link into a message so it is
"clickable?"

David

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What kind of cable are you using?  The serial cable for the HP is also a
null modem cable, so you need another null modem to switch the cable
lines back to straight serial.

David

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        http://www.freeflight.com/fms/comp/sys/Sinclair.html

        At the above site I found reference to the following program:

        Z80 ÝIBM PC¨ Author: Gerton Lunter Ýgerton@rcondw.rug.nl¨
                  Emulates both Spectrum 48k and Spectrum 128k.
                  Is fast on 286 and *very* fast on 386/486.
                  Shareware. Some options are disabled in PD version.
                  Has lots of options including monochrome option.
                  Has small built-in debugger.

        It seems to me that this would be worth trying on a speed
doubled 200LX.
        There is at least one other emulator that it sounded like
'might' work on the 200LX.
        Trying this isn't very high on my ToDo list, so if anyone gives
this a shot, let me know
        how it went.

        Regards,
        .M

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I am using the HP cable with the HP combination gender/null adapter that
comes with the connectivity kit.
It works fine as a serial cable for connecting to a serial printer and my
desktop with this adapter.
Ron
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Date: Thursday, August 28, 1997 11:29AM

What kind of cable are you using?  The serial cable for the HP is also a
null modem cable, so you need another null modem to switch the cable
lines back to straight serial.

David

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> This message reaffirms my belief that there needs to be a better
> utility to
> repair, view, edit .xdb files on the palmtop.
> I'm in the process of learning Perl and I'm thinking that it may be
> well suited
> for handling such a job.  Anyone else given this any thought?
>
> .M
>
> ----------
> From:         Frank UbachsÝSMTP:ubachs@MAIL.XS4ALL.NL¨
> Sent:         Wednesday, August 27, 1997 6:48 AM
> Subject:      Help: Repairing corrupt ApptBook
>
> Since it appears that my appt.adb is corrupt (alarm error), I tried
> to go back to my most recent backup. Unfortunately, the same problems
> occur in this version too.
>
> Now, I tried to extract valuable information from my database (which
> is still quite accessible) to build a fresh one, but neither
> removing, extracting nor merging (parts of) adb's seems to be
> possible anymore. I get error messages all the time (not enough
> internal memory; record not found, cannot open etc.). The resulting
> file, if any, gets quite large (some 200K).
>
> So, eventually, I tried my luck with Garlic to restore at least part
> of my original appt.adb. No luck. I do get a reasonable copy of
> appt.adb, but I still cannot manipulate the data it contains in a way
> to build a flawless ApptBook.
>
> So, basically, I've got a corrupt but up-to-date adb and I can create
> an empty  one without all the garbage.
>
> What could I do to save my data?
>
> Frank
>
>

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On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, David R. Birch wrote:
> What kind of cable are you using?  The serial cable for the HP is also a
> null modem cable, so you need another null modem to switch the cable
> lines back to straight serial.

I don't think this is the case.  The 9-25 adapter with the picture of the
computer monitor is also a null modem adapter, while the one with the
telephone handset is not.  The cable itself is not null-modemed.

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On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Harris Paltrowitz wrote:

> Date Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:44:47 -0400
> From Harris Paltrowitz <upstate@PIPELINE.COM>
> Reply-To HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> To HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject GDBIO - exporting & reading GDBs
>

IF THIS IS OFF TOPIC TELL ME AND WE'LL TAKE IT OFFLINE


>         I just started using the program "GDBIO" and find it nice=
 and
> easy to use so far.  My problem, though, is that I'm a novice "C"
> programmer, and I'm finding it hard to figure out how to read the
> "dumped" records into a program and address the fields.
I haven't used GDBIO in a long time, but I know C, so I can help you=
 with
the C end.

> now, though, I'm struggling with trying do decide between using fgets,
> fscanf, fread, etc.
fscanf can behave badly.  The recommended way to read in files with
carriage-return or carriage-return-line-feed terminated lines is to=
 use
fgets to read the line, then sscanf to parse the line.  Your loop will
look something like this:
FILE *InFile;                    //Pointer to a file handle
char BuffÝ256¨;                  //Is this big enough?
InFile=3Dfopen("myfile.cdf","r")
if(InFile=3D=3DNULL)
{
=09printf("Can't open input file\n");
=09exit(1);
}
while(fgets(Buff,256,InFile))    //fgets returns NULL on EOF/error
{
=09sscanf( .... whatever you need here);
}

>I see two possible problems:  1) the double-quotes
> around the field contents seem to be "in the way",
Since you know how many fields will be in the input file, you can put=
 the
quotes in the sscanf format line, like "\"%s\",\"%s\",\"%s\"" etc...
The \" means put a double-quote in the string.

>and 2) since a
> particular field can vary in length from record to record, I don't=
 see
> how I can declare a structure that will let me address each individual
> field.
I thought a C structure definition came in the docs of gdbio, but I=
 could
be wrong.  I'm sure someone else can help you out with the specifics.
What you need to do, though, is create each field as big as the largest
value.  If you have a charÝ20¨ variable and you put "foobar" in it,=
 the
string functions know that the string is six characters long because=
 C
strings have a ASCII zero at the end of it, so it knows where the string
ends and the unused space in the variable begins.

>         I'd also like to be able to "spin" though the file the way=
 I
> would do with a flat file on the mainframe - by reading each record,
> testing field values, and either using the record or "spinning" until=
 I
> find the ones I want.
YOu should be able to turn the loop above into that.  For readability,=
 you
may want to put the Buff parsing code in a separate function so your=
 loop
just has what you want to do with the data.

> dozen "C" books the other day, and just got more confused the more=
 I
> read!
C always gives you enough rope to hang yourself with, but if you manage
not to hang yourself, there's all sorts of great things you can do with
the rope.

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DK KD                     http://www.concentric.net/~dskramer
DKK D
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*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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Does anyone know of a decent Pac Man type game that will run on the 200LX. I've
tried all of the usual shareware sites and have found a few, but most of them
require EGA or VGA. I did try the one that was on the HP Game Center but it
seemed kinda "flaky". I'd be grateful if anyone could point me in the right
direction or email me a program. With as many other great DOS programs that run
fine on the HP surely someone has written a Pac Man type program. Thanks in
advance!!!

73 de KF4KGQ
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Bill Childers wrote:
> ...
>  I recently picked up a Megahertz Allpoints card, and while it works great,
> the service isn't cheap...

Is the card you speak of here configured for a specific "service"?  I too am
trying to put together the same type of scenario.  I need a 14.4 cellular
compatible modem.  I'd settle for pocket variety, but PCMCIA is preferred.  If
yours is NOT configurred for a particular service provider, and are interrested
in selling, I may be interrested in buying.

Please advise.

Sincerely,
Denny

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You might want to try www.dejanews.com

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At 09:05 8/28/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can you tell me how to enter a WEB link into a message so it is
>"clickable?"
>
>David
>
Just put the complete link with at least a space before and after it.
Like this:  http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html  , by the way this may
not work in all e-mail programs but it does in Eudora which is what I use.

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Without using Windows or Procomm, is there any way to defeat the
hardware handshaking on a PS's serial port?  I want to use a Red Eye to
do an unattended backup, without involving a bunch of operating system
"overhead".  My dream would go something like this... walk in from work,
set palmtop down in usual place (which now has a Red Eye device near by)
and sometime during the night, a PC in the house gets turned on by a
wall timer, it boots and comes up running Intersvr.exe.  The palmtop, at
the prompting of it's own internal Appointment application, launches a
batch file and copies all the new or changed files to the PC.  Yes, I
could just plug in a serial cord, but this is a dream...

Phil

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Phil Drummond wrote:

> Without using Windows or Procomm, is there any way to defeat the
> hardware handshaking on a PS's serial port?  I want to use a Red Eye
> to

I was never able to get the Belkin Redeye to work.  Let us know if you
figure out how.
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Disturbing news.  The only success I have had is with Procomm on the PC
(not PS as I seem to have typed :) and the palmtop's terminal program.
Too much manual intervention required for easy automating.

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>Sent:  Thursday, August 28, 1997 4:40 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Red Eye and the HP200LX, a question...
>
>Phil Drummond wrote:
>
>> Without using Windows or Procomm, is there any way to defeat the
>> hardware handshaking on a PS's serial port?  I want to use a Red Eye
>> to
>
>I was never able to get the Belkin Redeye to work.  Let us know if you
>figure out how.
>--
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Like many others, I have turned off the power to the COM1 port in DOS.
 For the few applications that I have installed in the System Manager
that need the COM1 port, I explicitly turn the power on with the
upside-down exclamation point in the Comments field.  One such app, XPORT, that
was working fine for a few days suddenly stopped working today.  Upon
investigation I discovered that the COM1 port power was not getting turned
on.  I checked the settings, and it looked fine.  I even copied the
Comments field from a working COM1-using program, ZIP, to no avail.  Now
for the interesting part:  when I changed the Path field in the working
app from "C:\zip.com /v /b19200" to "C:\xport.exe /p1 /s2" the power does
not turn on!  Nothing else changed, just the Path field.  When I change
the Path back, the power turns on!

In case you're interested, I'm popping up LXPRO to tell me whether the
power is on or not.  I'm currently working around it by using LXPRO to
toggle the power, but that shouldn't be necessary.

Kiyoshi Akima
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Yo Brian,

>One thing that I have noticed is when writing email, you >cannot call=
 up the address book for a cc address.  Does WWW/LX >have this feature?

This is one of the grouses I have about the program, you cannot dictate=
 what you want. With Post/LX you can have multiple address and cc's,=
 and you have access to the address dialog box after you have finished=
 your message. You can even send the message as an email or as a newsgroup=
 posting.

>Also, I have almost given up trying to surf the www because of
>the non-graphical display.  Is this any better with WWW/LX >given the=
 limitations of the 200lx?

WWW/LX is a graphical browser if you want it to be, the feature can=
 be turned on and off. I usually turn it off as it makes downloading=
 web pages much quicker, however, if you wish to see the image, you=
 can turn it on and download just the image. When the feature is off,=
 the image appears as text Ýimage¨.

Hope this helps. It is a big expenditure, but I have no regrets as my=
 palmtop has now become my PC of choice when I travel, which is weekly,=
 I don't even bother to sycn with my desktop, therefore the option of=
 the CE is not for me, since it seems that is the only thing it does=
 well!!

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Stephen wrote:

> Yo Brian,
>
> >Also, I have almost given up trying to surf the www because of
> >the non-graphical display.  Is this any better with WWW/LX >given the limitations of
> the 200lx?
>
> WWW/LX is a graphical browser if you want it to be, the feature can be turned on and
> off. I usually turn it off

Of course, only the actual GIF viewing option can be turned on and off.  HV (the program
WWW/LX uses to browse the web) always works in graphical mode, and it always displays
italics, bold, underlining, etc. as they should appear.  So, you could call it a graphical
browser in that sense, and also in the sense that it can display graphics.

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--- On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:22:00 -0500  "Tatham, Ronald" <TATHAM@BURKE.COM>
wrote:

>I just got a Thumbelina mouse and installed the driver on my HPLX (with
>speed chip).  The TSR says it is installed on COM1 but when I open word5
>nothing happens.  I also have a mouse test program (came with Thumbelina)
>and the mouse does not access it either.  Has anyone set up a mouse for the
>HP who could help me with this?  Thanks for any advice.
>Ron

Is HPLX set for serial port power on in DOS?



bob

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Serial port is set to "on" in DOS .  When I touch one of the mouse buttons
the mouse led lights up so at least power is coming to it.
Ron
 --- On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:22:00 -0500  "Tatham, Ronald" <TATHAM@BURKE.COM>
wrote:

>I just got a Thumbelina mouse and installed the driver on my HPLX (with
>speed chip).  The TSR says it is installed on COM1 but when I open word5
>nothing happens.  I also have a mouse test program (came with Thumbelina)
>and the mouse does not access it either.  Has anyone set up a mouse for the
>HP who could help me with this?  Thanks for any advice.
>Ron

From: Bob Russell

Is HPLX set for serial port power on in DOS?


Bob Russell
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     Hello,

     Thanks to all of you for your input.  David Colston was nice enough to
     write to me and suggest trying NetTamer from DOS not System Manager.
     I had previously been running it from MaxDOS and from System Manager
     with "| 280".  I tried it last night from DOS and had no problems.  So
     far I am batting 100% (1 out of 1).

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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Got it, works fine, I prefer foam behind the latch, myself, but
that's just a grin....

Thanks! and have some fun / mark

I haven't been paying much attention to the "games" thread.  Got solitaire,
got freecell, great for sitting in those long ferry lineups (that's why
I took time off work to make the Blaine trip! - heading for SaltSpring
Island... and we'll have some waiting).

What else is fun?

cheers

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Are there any good DOS databases that run well on the 200LX?  I don't
need relational, but want one with good reporting and more robust
searching and subsets.

I tried Paradox 4.5 and couldn't get in to run.

Any suggestions?

Bill

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If you can find a copy of Revelation G2B, it runs great, does everythng
you could possible want from a DOS application, and should blow smoke
at everyting else out there.  Now, about that learning curve - not
really any worse than Paradox, or Access, but not exactly pc-file.....

/mark
>
> Are there any good DOS databases that run well on the 200LX?  I don't
> need relational, but want one with good reporting and more robust
> searching and subsets.
>
> I tried Paradox 4.5 and couldn't get in to run.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Bill
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I have a couple of flash cards that I would like to be able to use. They
say (on the front):

    CiscoSystems
    FLASH
    Intel Series 2+
    16 Mbyte Memory Card

As best as I can figure out, http://developer.intel.com/design/flcard
describes this product.

I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html

But, it did not work for me.

Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?

Thanks

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I have tried a number of OEM cards, they're usually for loading updates to
the customers system. If it's Cisco, it's UNIX. The dos machines can't
handle the format. If you or a friend had a PCMCIA adapter for your PC, you
can drop to the dos level and reformat the disk unless it's read only.
It'll work fine after that.

If anybody needs a PCMCIA 2 slot adapter for the PC, I have them brand new
in the box for $90. Latest software and supported by all popular OS. 3.5"
form factor, same size as a 3.5" floppy.

JR

At 04:17 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
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>I have a couple of flash cards that I would like to be able to use. They
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>
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>    FLASH
>    Intel Series 2+
>    16 Mbyte Memory Card
>
>As best as I can figure out, http://developer.intel.com/design/flcard
>describes this product.
>
>I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
>http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>
>But, it did not work for me.
>
>Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
>
>Thanks
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I tried the link with success, try again.

> I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
> http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>
> But, it did not work for me.
>
> Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?

*****mike

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The link worked, and I was able to download the software, but ...

I am obviously dense or something ... I was unable to make TRUEFSS work
correctly. I could get it to "load" and see the flash disk, but it

1) thought it was 2MB and not 16MB
2) would not successfully format the puppy.

At 06:18 PM 8/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>I tried the link with success, try again.
>
>> I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
>> http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>>
>> But, it did not work for me.
>>
>> Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
>
>*****mike
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You really need either a flash adapter in the PC or Notebook to reformat
the drive.

JR

At 06:14 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
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>The link worked, and I was able to download the software, but ...
>
>I am obviously dense or something ... I was unable to make TRUEFSS work
>correctly. I could get it to "load" and see the flash disk, but it
>
>1) thought it was 2MB and not 16MB
>2) would not successfully format the puppy.
>
>At 06:18 PM 8/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>I tried the link with success, try again.
>>
>>> I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
>>> http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>>>
>>> But, it did not work for me.
>>>
>>> Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
>>
>>*****mike
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That I have. I have a Win95 Laptop with a PCMCIA slot, but no real luck!!

At 04:34 PM 8/29/97 -0700, you wrote:
>You really need either a flash adapter in the PC or Notebook to reformat
>the drive.
>
>JR
>
>At 06:14 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>The link worked, and I was able to download the software, but ...
>>
>>I am obviously dense or something ... I was unable to make TRUEFSS work
>>correctly. I could get it to "load" and see the flash disk, but it
>>
>>1) thought it was 2MB and not 16MB
>>2) would not successfully format the puppy.
>>
>>At 06:18 PM 8/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>>I tried the link with success, try again.
>>>
>>>> I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
>>>> http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>>>>
>>>> But, it did not work for me.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
>>>
>>>*****mike


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Can you restart Win95 in DOS mode and access the PCMCIA adapter? If you
can, there should be a DOS program called ATAINIT or the like it to handle
cards at the dos level. You have to be able to drop to the dos level to
reformat the card. Win95 can't handle foreign OS.

JR

At 06:35 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>That I have. I have a Win95 Laptop with a PCMCIA slot, but no real luck!!
>
>At 04:34 PM 8/29/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>You really need either a flash adapter in the PC or Notebook to reformat
>>the drive.
>>
>>JR
>>
>>At 06:14 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>>The link worked, and I was able to download the software, but ...
>>>
>>>I am obviously dense or something ... I was unable to make TRUEFSS work
>>>correctly. I could get it to "load" and see the flash disk, but it
>>>
>>>1) thought it was 2MB and not 16MB
>>>2) would not successfully format the puppy.
>>>
>>>At 06:18 PM 8/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>>>I tried the link with success, try again.
>>>>
>>>>> I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
>>>>> http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>>>>>
>>>>> But, it did not work for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
>>>>
>>>>*****mike
>
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John Ramos wrote:

> Can you restart Win95 in DOS mode and access the PCMCIA adapter? If
> you
> can, there should be a DOS program called ATAINIT or the like it to
> handle
> cards at the dos level. You have to be able to drop to the dos level
> to
> reformat the card. Win95 can't handle foreign OS.

How about FDISK100?

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Subject:      Re: Good DOS database for 200lx

how about dataperfect, by the wordperfect people?  i know it will run, but
have not used it enough to comment on its value.  i seems pretty nice. needs
a couple of meg of storage as i recall, and compresses nicely onto a stacked
drive.  take a look.

cordially,

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Subject:      Omnibook Problem

I no this isn't technically the correct list but I thought someone out
there might have seen this problem. I have an Omnibook 300 that thinks it
has a password now. The battery went totally dead and after that it comes
up asking for a password. There is a password setting on these that only
asks when totally powered off, not when suspended. I think that is what I
am seeing. I asked the guy I bought it from but he can't remember any
password, of course he bought it from someone else and may have just been
lucky. According to the manual you can call HP "with the omnibook in hand"
and they can tell you how to fix it. Of course I called them and they want
$25 for each call, or $2.50 a minute. Surely someone out there knows the
magic trick to get past this password screen, it must ne some special
password or combination of keys that does it. Any and all help appreciated.

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I happen to have gotten to the contracted developers of the IrDA drivers, and I have
obtained a new build; It appears they have been refining the drivers for quite some
time, but HP just didn't put the updated drivers online. As it is, I will be proceeding to
continue development on these drivers.

I would like to know if there is any applications/addons that might be useful for this IrDA
device. The company I am contracted by has made an IrDA module to plug
DIRECTLY into any printer for direct printing, and it's pretty good with the new drivers. I
am looking into any other apps that I might be able to suggest to them.

And finally, does anyone want this driver? If so, I can post it to SUPER, if I know how to.
... Hand in hand with OS/2. Hell with NT

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Many thanks Ian.

Makes me wonder if the CE devices will age as gracefully<g>.

Heh.... In Singapore, the CE v2.0 is coming out, and HP is trashing out the CrapCE at
S$800 (about US$535). With some rumours, it's expected that the CE will come out a
new version every 6months, with ROM upgrades at about S$300 (US$200). Comparing
this with the HP200LX is like comparing Fine Wine to Rancid Yoguht.
... OS/2 just broke all the Windows!

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Q&A 3.0 is a great database that runs on the 100/200LX.  You need about 1.5
MB of disk space for a complete installation. The tutorial takes and added
360K.

Plus, Q&A utilizes artificial intelligence technology to put a built-in
"intelligent assistance" at your service. Using Q&A's Intelligent
Assistance, you can
ask for and retrieve stored facts and figures, and create reports, using
plain English sentences. Q&A 3.0 is currently out of print but is worth the
hunt. I got mine from Tiger Software some years back.

Good luck,
Qman

At 12:55 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Are there any good DOS databases that run well on the 200LX?  I don't
>need relational, but want one with good reporting and more robust
>searching and subsets.
>
>I tried Paradox 4.5 and couldn't get in to run.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Bill
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I haven't tried it, but I bet dbase III or an early version
of FoxPro would run fine.   A later version of FoxPro
would be great if you have enough disk space.

You can create your own database with PDC Prolog,
but it will take some effort plus a changing in thinking
to learn Prolog, which is non-procedural.

At 12:55 PM 8/29/97 -0500, Bill Gossage wrote:
>Are there any good DOS databases that run well on the 200LX?  I don't
>need relational, but want one with good reporting and more robust
>searching and subsets.
>
>I tried Paradox 4.5 and couldn't get in to run.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Bill
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While Netscape is loading the site, I click back on Eudora and
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At 09:05 AM 8/28/97 -0700, David R. Birch wrote:
>Can you tell me how to enter a WEB link into a message so it is
>"clickable?"
>
>David
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Date:         Sat, 30 Aug 1997 19:41:36 GMT
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From:         Malcolm Viney <woodpeck@NETCOMUK.CO.UK>
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Hi everyone.
I've just acquired a couple of 20mb Intel Flash cards.=20

BUT

I can't seem to get the HP200LX to see them at all.

Presumably they require a DOS driver be loaded at boot time, but which
one(s) ???

Has anyone of you already "been there, solved it, got the Tee Shirt"
etc.???

Any help offered is gratefully received.

Malcolm woodpeck@netcomuk.co.uk

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> I have just bought a HP200lx and i would like to have a game of chess =
for
> it. Does anybody know of a shareware/freeware chess game (like gnu =
chess)?

Hi Kjeld. I too am a chess lover. Please feel free to drop me a line =
off
the list and we could perhaps discuss it some more...

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Hi:

As far as I know, the 200LX has two NiCd batteries charging mode: fast and
trickle. In the PAL library, I haven't been able to find a function for
selecting the charging mode. Charge mode only allows to enable/disable
charging, and BattFast tells if the battery if being fast-charged, but
nothing to select fast/trickle.

Can anybody help ?

Thanks. Nacho.

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I have a chess game that works on the HP.  However, if your a decent
player it wont offer any challenge.  Let me know if you'd like a copy
anyway.  I don't remember where it came from. SUPER maybe?

David Brady


Ian Melville wrote:
>
> > I have just bought a HP200lx and i would like to have a game of chess for
> > it. Does anybody know of a shareware/freeware chess game (like gnu chess)?
>
> Hi Kjeld. I too am a chess lover. Please feel free to drop me a line off
> the list and we could perhaps discuss it some more...
>
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>  Email: ianmel@opus.co.tt
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What kind of teeshirt do I get for this? Better be good!

This is the second time for the Unix cards. There are cards out there to be
had cheap! If you can reformat them in dos, or use fdisk to delete the
Non-dos partitionn (s)and reformat them you may have a usable card.
Adapters for pcs come with software to do this. Depending on what is on the
card, you may need something stronger than do DOS to do this.

JR

At 07:41 PM 8/30/97 GMT, you wrote:
>Hi everyone.
>I've just acquired a couple of 20mb Intel Flash cards.
>
>BUT
>
>I can't seem to get the HP200LX to see them at all.
>
>Presumably they require a DOS driver be loaded at boot time, but which
>one(s) ???
>
>Has anyone of you already "been there, solved it, got the Tee Shirt"
>etc.???
>
>Any help offered is gratefully received.
>
>Malcolm woodpeck@netcomuk.co.uk
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<<Are there any good DOS databases that run well on the 200LX?  I don't
need relational, but want one with good reporting and more robust
searching and subsets.>>

There is a Lotus 1-2-3 addin program by the name of @base which I wrote
about in the HP Palmtop paper some months ago. Small, fits on C drive.
Reads and writes dbase III files. Week on "reporting" since no print
capabilities, but can create your own custom reports in 1-2-3. Has
relational capabilites if needed. For printed reports, I've always used
something like R&R Report writer.

     Carl

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      megahertz 96/24 modem

i recently came into posession of a megahertz battery powered modem, labeled
96/24 FAX/Modem.  no documentation.  has anyone cause such a device to work
with the 1/200lx? i clearly will need a gender changer.  is a null modem also
needed?  any other comments?

thanks,

lynn m. cavendish

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> > I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
> > http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
> >
> > But, it did not work for me.
> >
> > Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?



  I use the TRUEFSS programs in my HP100LX with a  4Mb INTEL flash card
with no problems.

 This is my config.sys:

 buffers=20
files=50
stacks=0,0
rem dos=high
shell=d:\dos\command.com d:\dos  /p
device=c:\maxflash\tffs.com /drive=a /sice=4096



My autoexec.bat
echo off
Rem
Rem To customize DOS startup files, copy config.sys and
Rem autoexec.bat from the D drive to the C drive and
Rem edit the C drive versions to meet your needs.
Rem
Rem
Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive.
Rem
prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;a:\;a:
c:
Rem
Rem Following assign enables referencing the plug-in card as
Rem drive E (in addition to A).  Using E allows some programs
Rem to run which refuse to run from a drive that is normally
Rem associated with a floppy drive.x
rem assign e:=a:
Rem
Rem Remove Rem from following cic100 line to load support
Rem for PCMCIA modem cards.
Rem
Rem d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
Rem
Rem Following 100 command starts the System Manager which
Rem provides access to the built-in applications.
Rem
maxdos -l -wa:\max
CLICK
100
maxdos -r

I use the TFORMAT to format the FLASH card.
and TCHECK as CHKDSK substitute.

All is working OK , with any compatibility problems.

(all programs are included in TRUEFSS.ZIP package, I first unzip it and run
install program  in my desktop PC, and then copy the suggested files to my
HP100Lx)


Best regards.
EA3BKZ
Salvador Caballe Micola
salvador@caballe.com
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On Sat, 30 Aug 1997 11:54:26 -0400, you wrote:

>And finally, does anyone want this driver? If so, I can post it to =
SUPER, if I know how to.

Good move. Go for it. Mail it to Mitch as an attachment.

--=20
Neil Tungate.
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Hello!

> I haven't tried it, but I bet dbase III or an early version
> of FoxPro would run fine.   A later version of FoxPro
> would be great if you have enough disk space.

The minimal version of FoxPro 2.5 for DOS needs only 2mb of disk space. I
deleted all files that are not necessary, including help files.

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
igg@sbcorp.ru

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Which version of Eudora are you using.  I'm using Eudora Lite and can't seem
to get it to work the way you describe -- wish I could.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_

>Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 1997 11:28:40 -0700
>From:    Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
>Subject: Re: Hp200LX Programs
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>
>Give the full URL and don't put any punctuation marks (like colons),
>next to it.
>
>For example, instead of just putting:
>
>    www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
>in your signature, you could put:
>
>   http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
>It doesn't work if you put a period, comma, colon, etc
>next to the URL.
>
>Eudora (email reader) and Netscape's email reader both
>show this link in a different color and make the link clickable
>directly in email.    In Eurodra, if Netscape is not in memory,
>Netscape will be fired up and will go to the URL that I clicked on.
>
>While Netscape is loading the site, I click back on Eudora and
>continue reading other email.  Then later I switch back to Netscape
>to take a look at the web site.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 09:05 AM 8/28/97 -0700, David R. Birch wrote:
>>Can you tell me how to enter a WEB link into a message so it is
>>"clickable?"
>>
>>David
>

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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: megahertz 96/24 modem
Comments: cc: Cavendishl@AOL.COM

The modem is called a pocket modem and it will work just fine on the
100/200lX. Your correct about needed a gender changer and null modem.
You can obtain both at you local Radio Shack for about $2.99 - 4.95.
I just recently traded my 96/24 pocket modem for a 100/LX mother board.
Hated to give it up. But what good is a modem without a working
computer.

Note: Just go into Comm settings and set it for 2400 baud.

Hope this helps,
Qman

On 1997-08-30 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to qman@earthlink.net
   >i recently came into posession of a megahertz battery powered modem,
   >labeled 96/24 FAX/Modem.  no documentation.  has anyone cause such
   >a device to work with the 1/200lx? i clearly will need a gender
   >changer.  is a null modem also needed?  any other comments?
   >thanks,
   >lynn m. cavendish
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direct print as in other than serial printer? i want one

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It is my understanding that if you are trying to have the http address
highlighted at the receiver's end, some programs work and some don't.
Eudora light or pro works.  However, America OnLine does not allow for the
http address to be "clickable".

At 05:45 AM 8/31/97 -1000, you wrote:
>Which version of Eudora are you using.  I'm using Eudora Lite and can't seem
>to get it to work the way you describe -- wish I could.
>
>Aloha - bob    \ooo_
>
>>Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 1997 11:28:40 -0700
>>From:    Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
>>Subject: Re: Hp200LX Programs
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>Give the full URL and don't put any punctuation marks (like colons),
>>next to it.
>>
>>For example, instead of just putting:
>>
>>    www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>>
>>in your signature, you could put:
>>
>>   http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>>
>>It doesn't work if you put a period, comma, colon, etc
>>next to the URL.
>>
>>Eudora (email reader) and Netscape's email reader both
>>show this link in a different color and make the link clickable
>>directly in email.    In Eurodra, if Netscape is not in memory,
>>Netscape will be fired up and will go to the URL that I clicked on.
>>
>>While Netscape is loading the site, I click back on Eudora and
>>continue reading other email.  Then later I switch back to Netscape
>>to take a look at the web site.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 09:05 AM 8/28/97 -0700, David R. Birch wrote:
>>>Can you tell me how to enter a WEB link into a message so it is
>>>"clickable?"
>>>
>>>David
>>
>
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I had some time this weekend, and added the ability to view/edit
definitions/topics/notes to HisWord(tm).  I don't know of any bugs at
this time, but I'm considering it a beta version until it's had some
additional testing.  If you'd like to take a look at this version
(and future beta versions), send an email to "thoover@pobox.com"
(please do not send your reply to this list), with the subject
"add HisWord Beta list", and my email software will automatically add
you to the list.

Please note...the documentation describing the new features is not
complete.  I will include a sample hisword.cfg file, which should
give you all the info that you need to get it working.  I would also
appreciate timely feedback on this and other beta versions, so that
they may be "released" ASAP.

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