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Jeff MacDowell wrote:
>
> At 10:17 AM 1/29/98 +1300, you wrote:
> >   >I'm probably going back to the world of daily suits & ties after a
> >   >2-yr hiatus.  Unfortunately I won't be able to wear my Eagle Creek
> >   >pack/purse with all my 200LX gear and cell phone anymore.  I am
> >
> >Have you seen the various shoulder holsters available? Under a
> >suit jacket, they sure add credo, and a certain kind of
> >power-play as you reach under your jacket...
>
> David,
>
> I live in Texas -- a state with concealed handgun permits.  I can just see
> me getting out of my car after an accident or being pulled over by the TX
> Rangers and as I reach in my "holster" to get my insurance information in
> my 200LX pocket brain, I get  mistakenly gunned down by the other driver or
> cop b/c he/she thinks I am reaching "for something else".
>
> Good idea, but I think I keep my power-play to a bold-patterned tie : ).
>
> Jeff

It's so comforting to know that only people who have legally obtained handguns
and concealed handgun permits every carry concealed handguns.

And I'm sure that the maker of the 200lx holster would like to know that they
only have a market for their product in a dozen or so states.
--
Lewis - K7LVO   Battle Ground, WA (near Portland, OR)
Team 200LX      NRA Life

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What are the brand name of the Nimh's that times2tech sells?

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Here is a sample of an email address post/lx rejected. Jer5503@aol.com.
I think I might know why it did this one I've heard aol is case
sensitive and I entered the address manually so I might not have gotten=

the case exactly right. However it has rejected other addresses not=

aol addresses also. Also has anyone noticed how unless you use the
=A1 symbol to lock it from system manager if you log on with www/lx=
 and use
hv if you try to use post after logging off the thing will give you
and error at the ILCP part of loggong on and won't log on. You have=
 to either
reboot or put the =A1 symbol in. (I don't like using that symbol
if I do then I have to close the program to use memo!) Also how
can you delete individual messages? I have tried deleting then using
the reorder command. It doesn't seem to work. You know with all these
problems I'm thinking about returning this program. It was 109 dollars
and for that kind of money I really expected something that would
be really good and error free. The only thing that is keeping it
in my hands now is the fact its a 200LX program and I really want
to support software written for the 200LX. Plus the only other
program like this is Nettamer and I really don't like the user interface
and the fact you have to load a seperate editor to edit email and news.
You can't use memo. I donno. What do you think should I keep it? I've=

emailed A. Garzotto about three times and haven't gotten a response
he doesn't seem to care about supporting it or whether it works for
me or not. At the price he should have a 24 hour 800 line! Take care.
John

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 08:17:26 +0000
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On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >What are the brand name of the Nimh's that times2tech sells?

The T2T brand batteries I've got have no brand name. In fact, there's
hardly ANY print on them aside from the word JAPAN.

-Longden

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--- begin of forwarded message ---
---

>>Here is a sample of an email address post/lx rejected.<<

It is not POST/LX that rejects any messages, but the SMTP server of the
provider. POST/LX just reports that the server did not accept the
message. It might help to put "<" and ">" around the address.

>>Also has anyone noticed how unless you use the
=A1 symbol to lock it from system manager<<

Even the author of the manual has noticed that and put it in several
places in the manual. The problem is with System Manager. It interfers
with the serial port and makes any DOS programm useless *unless* you
put the upside down exclamation mark into the comments field of
Application Manager, which tells System Manager not to fiddle around
with the serial port.

>> Also how
can you delete individual messages?<<

By pressing the DEL key, messages are marked for deletion. To actuallly
delete them from the file, Reorg must be run. This is described in the
manual in more detail.

>> I've
emailed A. Garzotto about three times and haven't gotten a response<<

I never received a message. When I receive a message, I reply to it.
Anyway, messages relating to support issues for D&A products should be
addresses to support@dasoft.com and not to my private email address. In
case you sent a message to garzotto@active.ch, this address does not
exist for several months (but you should have received an error message
then).

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Is there anybody out there using Latex with his HP200lx machine. If yes,
please tell which version, with what fonts, which DVI-viewer? (need
details...)  :)
I am a fan of Latex and i would realy like to use it with my HP200...

Vasilis Tzimis

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On 1998-01-30 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I realize this is not really the thread here, but...
   >When I purchased my 2nd palmtop (one of Thaddeus's 8meg/2x jobs), I
   >got to playing around and found an interesting way to "create" an
   >external modem for my new palmtop.
   >I put my trusty EXP modem in the old palmtop and cabled the two
   >palmtops together via serial port, ran the program COMLINK on the
   >old palmtop and Procomm on the new one, bingo! external modem!
   >Phil
FWIW, I think it should be possible to do this usning IR communication
between the palmtops, but why don't you put the exp-modem in you new
palmtop? (maybe this is a stupid question, but then... please explain)

Bas
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Last time this started, I wasn't able to receive messages from the list for
a day or four. Hope this time things are not that bad.

If I am not the only one, please let me know

Bas

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I am thinking about using Nimh batteries and I have a few questions about charging them.

I am assuming that the standard 200LX NiCad setting can not be used to charge Nimh batteries.  Is this true?

If so, can BATSET be used to configure my LX to charge Nimh batteries?  What would be the BATSET settings?

Thanks,

Michael
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Can anyone tell at what voltage you start getting a low battery warning on a
200 with 2mb?

Thanks

Brian

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Hi John & group-

I've been using Post/LX since it was released, and haven't had the kind
of problems you describe.  I run this software in raw DOS to have
plenty of memory space available.  If you're running inside SYSMGR,=
 you
NEED that =A1 (upside down exclamation mark) to stop SYSMGR from diddling
the port.  Instead of MEMO, consider using PalEdit, now in version 2.1
- the price is right (freeware from D&A) - and there's a spell checker
(also free) for it.  If you're short of drive space, there are several
very tiny editors available.

The only problem I've had with addresses, using Post/LX, is when trying
to send to multiple locations.  To do this, the addresses need to be
inside the angle brackets .. ie  <nobody@nowhere.com>.

I'm not connected with D&A Software.  Just use their products, and am
happy with them.

-PR
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Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
   Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"

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the markings on my times2tech - supplied batteries are:

             HR-AUU
             JAPAN BFH

i hope that helps.

lynn m. cavendish

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mdstockr wrote:
>
> I am assuming that the standard 200LX NiCad setting can not be used to
> charge Nimh batteries.  Is this true?
> If so, can BATSET be used to configure my LX to charge Nimh batteries?
> What would be the BATSET settings?

It sort of depends on the batteries.  The newer NiMH batteries can be charged
with the nicad setting just fine.  The only thing is, you might want to
fast-charge longer than 6 hours, since NiMH's don't have a memory effect.
ABC/LX or BATSET can modify the fast-charge time.
--
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:43:45 +0000
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On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Can anyone tell at what voltage you start getting a low battery
   >warning on a 200 with 2mb?

I believe that may vary depending on whether you're using rechargeables or
not (tho it's been awhile since I've used alkalines).

FWIW, my NiCads or NiMHs get to around 2.35 (reported by ABC/LX) before
the warning kicks in on my 2x/6mb 200LX.

- Longden

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:43:52 +0000
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On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I am thinking about using Nimh batteries and I have a few questions
   >about charging them.
   >I am assuming that the standard 200LX NiCad setting can not be used
   >to charge Nimh batteries.  Is this true?

I've been using NiMH now for a few months. They take longer to charge than
NiCads. The standard recharge cycle on the 200LX may not be sufficient to
fully charge a depleted pair of cells as the ABCX/LX software often shows
charging up to 15-16 hrs, and that's at the higher (non trickle) setting.

   >If so, can BATSET be used to configure my LX to charge Nimh
   >batteries?  What would be the BATSET settings?

I don't use BATSET so I can't tell you. ABC/LX is an expensive option
(compared to many other freeware/shareware LX software), but it lets you
milk the benefits out of your expensive batteries.

Point: ABC/LX emphasized that there are variations between battery brands
and even lots of the same brand. The software showed that my maximum
charge varied on 4 different brands and the charging process had to be
tailored accordingly, the point being that there isn't one setting that
works best for all batteries. The settings for my batteries (per ABC/LX):


                   Rated      Max
                   Capacity   Volt

    Panasonic NiCad 1100      3.06
    RadioShack NiMH 1200      2.81
    YesSolar   NiMH 1300      2.87
    Times2Tech NiMH 1350      2.92

All of the NiMH required about 15-16 hrs of charge and the NiCads needed less
tho I forget exactly how much. Additionally, the NiMH batteries tended to
"stall" at a given voltage during the charge cycle for a longer time than
NiCads (up to 3-4 hours).

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:44:34 -0600
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I acquired a Newton Keyboard, model X0044.  The doc with the

driver specifys model X0035LL/A. What model are you using?

Ther are no batteries in the keyboard. Do you notice a
change
in battery life?

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I've been a member of the hp listserv for awhile now and find the =
information most interesting, also, I realized after seeing Dr. Jack =
Hsu's request that physicians could also be members.  So......

This message is for any Primary care physician who has to deal with =
Fromulary cost control.  My Co. (Rx Calibur, Inc.) has a Formulary cost =
control program that is designed for the H/P palmtop, (100-200lx).  I =
invite all physicians & HP Listserv members to take a few moments & =
visit my web site (www.rxcalibur.com).  It's not glamorus or glitzy =
(just the facts mam).  Feel free to contact me with your comments at my =
email address thewit19@idt.net, don't want to flood the =
listserv.members.


Thanks for your time,


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I looked all through the Radio Shack catalogue and couldn't find a NiMH =
1200 ma/H rechargeable AA battery.  Could you give me the catalogue =
number so that I could order them?

-----Original Message-----
From:   Longden Loo ÝSMTP:lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
Sent:   Sunday, February 01, 1998 11:44 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Questions about Charging Nimh Batteries

Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:43:52 +0000
Message-ID: <19980201184343.AAB23388@Ý12.64.37.21¨>

On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I am thinking about using Nimh batteries and I have a few questions
   >about charging them.
   >I am assuming that the standard 200LX NiCad setting can not be used
   >to charge Nimh batteries.  Is this true?

I've been using NiMH now for a few months. They take longer to charge =
than
NiCads. The standard recharge cycle on the 200LX may not be sufficient =
to
fully charge a depleted pair of cells as the ABCX/LX software often =
shows
charging up to 15-16 hrs, and that's at the higher (non trickle) =
setting.

   >If so, can BATSET be used to configure my LX to charge Nimh
   >batteries?  What would be the BATSET settings?

I don't use BATSET so I can't tell you. ABC/LX is an expensive option
(compared to many other freeware/shareware LX software), but it lets you
milk the benefits out of your expensive batteries.

Point: ABC/LX emphasized that there are variations between battery =
brands
and even lots of the same brand. The software showed that my maximum
charge varied on 4 different brands and the charging process had to be
tailored accordingly, the point being that there isn't one setting that
works best for all batteries. The settings for my batteries (per =
ABC/LX):


                   Rated      Max
                   Capacity   Volt

    Panasonic NiCad 1100      3.06
    RadioShack NiMH 1200      2.81
    YesSolar   NiMH 1300      2.87
    Times2Tech NiMH 1350      2.92

All of the NiMH required about 15-16 hrs of charge and the NiCads needed =
less
tho I forget exactly how much. Additionally, the NiMH batteries tended =
to
"stall" at a given voltage during the charge cycle for a longer time =
than
NiCads (up to 3-4 hours).

- Longden

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I have a copy of Stacker 4.0 for sale. It is Brand new and is still =
sealed with the original shrink wrap. Disk format is 3 1/2" HD 1.4MB =
floppy disks. I am asking $35.00 which includes shipping within =
continental United States.

Rodger
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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 16:29:09 EST
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I have a 200/1m and the low battery comes at about 2.2v, this is confirmed by
LxPro - a nifty little utility from Stefan Peichl

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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 16:34:41 EST
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I have tried posting this question before, but I don't know if it never made
it or nobody had an answer... so here goes again

I have a corrupt Pocket Quicken file from a bad experience with crashing my
200.  Also, I have had a couple databases go that route.  I tried Garlic on
the databases, but it said they were too far gone.  All the data were still
there, but all the header info must have been mucked up.  My PQ file is the
same - all the info is in there, I just can't get it out.

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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:30:24 -0500
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Dan Sommer <Dan.Sommer@M.CC.UTAH.EDU> wrote:

> I looked all through the Radio Shack catalogue and couldn't find a=
 NiMH
> 1200 ma/H rechargeable AA battery.  Could you give me the catalogue=
 number
> so that I could order them?

The RS stock number is 23-525.  They're on page 293 of the 1998
catalog.  Maybe you have an older catalog??

They cost $9.99 for a pair.

-PR
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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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I bought the times2tech cells and they did not have any brand name
markings on them.  However, you may want to check out some cells by SANYO
(1-619-661-4888) called "super twicell".

Jay

On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What are the brand name of the Nimh's that times2tech sells?
>
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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-> It's so comforting to know that only people who have legally obtained
-> handguns and concealed handgun permits every carry concealed
-> handguns.
->
-> And I'm sure that the maker of the 200lx holster would like to know
-> that they only have a market for their product in a dozen or so
-> states.

        WELL SAID!

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:42:48 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Questions about Charging Nimh Batteries
Comments: To: mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>

  In Reply to :
At  1 Feb 07:34, mdstockr wrote:
>
>I am thinking about using Nimh batteries and I have a few questions about charging them.
>
>I am assuming that the standard 200LX NiCad setting can not be used to charge Nimh batteries.  Is this true?
>
>If so, can BATSET be used to configure my LX to charge Nimh batteries?  What would be the BATSET settings?

Hi,

I use Toshiba 1200mAh NiMh and yes, you can use Batset to set charging
for longer period than the normal 6hrs high and thereafter low charge
as set by the 200LX. For my batteries, it worked out to be approx. 15
hours on high in the palmtop. I can't remember the formula to work out
the mAh charging period. Maybe someone on the list can help.

Due to this looong period of inconvenience when charging (tethered to
the power socket and all), I now charge my batteries (I got 2 pairs)
outside the palmtop using Eveready quick charger (rated at 100mAh) for
slighly longer than 15 hours (20 hours?).

My batteries last me about 7 ~ 9 buddy hours ... d/l emails at least
twice a day via pc card modem plus the palmtop I'm using is 1.5X
speedup and a Sandisk 10Mb flashcard being permanent resident in the
pcmcia slot.

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| cpwong@tm.net.my   | C P Wong                                      |
| cpwong@acer.com.my | Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia                        |
| cpwong@w3xs.com    | Using D-Mail v2.3 on HP200LX                  |
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:49:18 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Turning off sticky SHIFT keys
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SV4.3.96.980130130954.8733A-100000@feynman> from "James P.
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> Thanks for the suggestion.  However, KEY200 (and EXKEY, for that matter)
> does not have any way to distinguish between left and right shift keys.

That's a shame - I was sure it would help.

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:14:05 +1100
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX and WinCE??
In-Reply-To:  <c=CA%a=GOVMT.CANADA%p=GC+EC%l=ECVANCOUVER-980130195056Z-19242@ecvancouver.pwc.bc.doe.ca> from
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> Thanks for your thoughts. My appreciation for the LX200 is already well
> established.
You should be a diplomat!   :)


> My question relates to running more specific or custom  software that
> isn't designed for a DOS environment.
I'm genuinely curious - do you have any specific software in mind?

Or just an expectation that there *must* be (eventually) at least
*some* software for the WinCE machines that is specifically designed
for a palmtop, and is excellent <he said, as doubt crept into his voice> :)


MAPPING SOFTWARE
For example: There is some mapping software for the Psion 3 series - a
street directory type thing - specifically designed for that palmtop,
and apparently very good. I *think* maps were being put out for a
number of cities (beginning with London, of course) - these maps being
the key point.
ÝOf course, I'll now be told that something better is *already* avail
for the lx - but does it have a map of Melbourne? :) ¨



ASIDE: a Psion 3 emulator on the hp200lx would be more plauisble (than
a WinCE emulator), as they are machines of comparable power.
(I actually think that the Psion OS is *better* than DOS (being
multitasking, orthogonal, and efficient). But it's proprietory and
specific, so you just don't get the range of software that DOS has).

I heard there is a Nintendo Gameboy emulator available for the Psion 5 -
there may never be one for DOS; but probably there would be for the
WinCE range sooner or later.


> Speed would not necessarily be the issue.
True. But for example, the Sinclair ZX Spectrum runs on the hp200lx -
at about 25% full-speed. It's true that informational software - such as
a compiler - is useful no matter how slow it runs. Useful, but frustrating.
I suppose mapping software that ran 2-3 times too slowly would still be
very useful....



A suggestion: if you have some specific ideas in mind (even idle musings),
why not voice them?

I have been amazed again and again at what software *is* available for
DOS (and for the lx) - and at the quality of that software. I don't
think WinCE will catch up (IMhO)

Of course, this does not apply to future applications, which may (or may not)
be developed for DOS - such as a Java interpreter or perl5.


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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:19:27 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Sales 95...200LX vs 300...620LX?
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> Does anyone know what the sales figures are for HP's Palmtop PC
> (95/100/200LX) vs HP's WinCE (300/320/620LX)??
>
> I am wondering if their strategy to focus on WinCE paid off, or was a flop.



I don't have any figures, but I do have an opinion: :)

It was a flop, from what I've heard. Unfortunately, the hp200lx genre is
also a bit of a flop these days, too.  The Pilot is the big success story.

But Bill will keep pushing WinCE, just in case it does take-off. He used
to push his alternative to the Internet, until it was clear it wouldn't fly.
Of course, if the wind changes, who know what might happen?


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> Brendan: We like to leave the "dna" impression in people's minds -
> harder to forget our company's name "D&A Software, Inc."...
cute :)

> HV began as a Garzotto thing, and later versions he published under D&A
> banner. Latest version will always be on http://www.dasoft.com - SUPER
> may lag...

I'll check it - a very sweet piece of work. But tags seems to be
evolving at an excessive pace at the moment - hard to keep up, and there
may be no point until the dust has settled.


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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:59:40 -0600
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A list aside:

The GameBoy emulator for WinCE was released mid-January.  I don't have
the URL handy and it wouldn't be appropriate to this list.

However, aren't there hundreds of emulators available already for DOS.  I
genuinely don't know as my first DOS-only machine is the 200lx that
arrived at my door last week.

Larry Zimmerman

On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:14:05 +1100 Brendan Macmillan
<bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU> writes:

>I heard there is a Nintendo Gameboy emulator available for the Psion 5
>-
>there may never be one for DOS; but probably there would be for the
>WinCE range sooner or later.

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Subject:      Re: Lets talk about LATEX (baby)
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Was it your query on LaTeX that only I responded to? If so,
I'm just repeating:


Everything you need is on SimTel:
        tex, metafont, previewer: I'm not sure if the tex is actually
latex or not... have a look (a search of the site).

The dvi previewer will work on dvi files - not a bad place to start,
though you may need the basic fonts installed first.

I suggest that the tex USENET newsgroup will have more info for you, and
perhaps the dos newsgorups. There's a guy in charge of the garbo
shareware site - Prof Timo, I think? - who is very, very knowledgeable
and helpful. He will probably know just what you need, and where to
start looking for it. He seems to check one of the dos groups regularly.

Be warned - installing LaTeX is not a trivial exercise!
Be sure to tell us how to you did it, when you've worked it out! Should
definitely go in the FAQ, along with installing Windows.


PS Someone on this list a while back had done it; but if they haven't
responded, I guess they've moved on.

Good luck!!

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> > >I've written a little perl script that converts latex to html, so I
> > >can use the html viewer (HV from SUPER) to view LaTeX on the palmtop.
> >
> > Nice job! But unless one needs the TeX source: one can actually print
> > out nicely wordprocessed documents (even in colour) formatted in HTML
> > from Netscape.

It's true: you can write in html or LaTeX. LaTeX does give you a little
more control - my reasons are that it seems to be a computer science
research type thing, and a *music typesetting package* is available for
it - quite beautiful.


> Sadly, the fact that HTML doesn't include 'space', but merely considers it
> a seperator
Same with LaTeX. You can use a ~ in LaTeX for more space - I guess it's
a hard-space.

> can be annoying at times and &nbsp; makes far too small spaces
> to be useful. With <TT>&nbsp;</TT> it helps, though ;-)

nbsp - non-breaking space?
<TT> abbrev for <TITLE>?
        ...I've only a small html vocab at the moment.

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 00:28:26 -0500
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<<Does anyone know what the sales figures are for HP's Palmtop PC
(95/100/200LX) vs HP's
WinCE (300/320/620LX)??

I am wondering if their strategy to focus on WinCE paid off, or was a
flop.>>

At Comdex, HP said in a press conference that their palmtop group sales
were up 2.5 times over 1996. They did not break out DOS vs WinCE sales.
I've never heard Microsoft announce WinCE sales figures, but read that
someone reported that they said total shipments were around 300,000 units=
=2E
Since the 200LX sold out of stock due to overwhelming demand, I'm guessin=
g
they did quite well off of 200LX and 1000CX sales last year. Their
statement that they will continue to manufacture HP200LXs as long as peop=
le
will buy them indicates a recognition that the platform is profitable for=

them, and that they aren't going to abandon a profitable platform while i=
t
continues to remain profitable. The fact that there was no discounting of=

the 200LX vs the deep discounting of WinCE 1.0 units which went as low as=

$99 supports an assumption that there is continued strong demand.
Unfortunately, I've never seen a good estimate of the numbers. The best
information I have says 10,000 to 15,000 units sell each month, and that
there are over 1.3 million HP DOS palmtops sold to date. Of course, none =
of
this is confirmed by HP. Just educated guesses.

I think their strategy paid off, since it gave them recognition. Also, th=
e
general market is much more aware of palmtops in 1997/1998 than they were=

in 1995/1996. Whether they'd do better by introducing a 486 200LX as a
competitor to the Libretto is anyone's guess. They seem convinced that
Win95's days are numbered and that WinCE is the future direction for
consumer devices. They clearly believe DOS is dead. I'm not hopeful they
will develop a successor to the 200LX. But, I can see the 200LX being the=

ONLY stable, mature platform on the market. Let's just hope others find
value in that kind of unique product (stable, mature, powerful enough,
prices will continue to decline making it more affordable).

With desktops now under $1,000, and with 40% to 50% of new sub $1,000 PC
sales being first time buyers, the best message people should get out for=

mobile computing purposes is buy two computers for the price of one (i.e.=

desktop + palmtop =3D laptop). The benefits are many. That is still an
insufficiently touted message.

     Best,

     Carl Merkle
     Director of Corporate Projects
     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
     www.shier.com
     1-888-371-9391 (toll free in US)
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > to be useful. With <TT>&nbsp;</TT> it helps, though ;-)
>
> nbsp - non-breaking space?

Yup, makes a small space.

> <TT> abbrev for <TITLE>?

I don't remember what <TT> stands for any longer, but it tells the browser
to use a monospaced font, thus the space created by &nbsp; is longer. <TT>
means pretty much the same as <CODE> - most browsers interpret it the same
way, anyway.

FYI:

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

has nice and complete documentation about HTML 3.2 and the new HTML 4.0

Regards,

Laust

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Just having a look at Java on the WinCE website - you can see what I mean
writing with resources to burn!

        http://www.winceonline.com/downp.html


``Windows CE Device Requirements:
        16MB H/PC device strongly recommended; 8MB minimum required space
        3.5MB Storage space required for Java VM and classes
        Additional 3.2MB required for Java VM to execute
        Note: Java applications will not run on a 4 MB device''


It's a shame, but it looks like we'll never see Java for our XT DOS
palmtops. :( Then again, maybe it won't live up to its hype. :)

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http://www.hagstromelectronics.com

and

Vetra Systems Corp vetra@mail.idt.net

both have PC keyboard to RS-232 products...

I know nothing more about these companies/products
than what I've seen in/on their ads/webpages...

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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Hi,

Here's some interesting development on speedup 200LX which I have
done.

I only manged to get a 21MHz xtal and after changing it, install a
clockup driver by Itoh. I have to tweak the driver via parameter in
order to get an accurate time, the left side of the screen (1 pixel)
flickers only in DOS. Running programs is not so noticeable.

LXSTAT reports correctly as 21MHz xtal but after running MAXCPU.COM
LXSTAT reports 31.6MHz. Any ideas what's going on here? Am I getting
really 31.6MHz? or am I fooling myself here?

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Since I received a blanco e-mail, which should have been the one below, I
try again. Sorry if this means the same message twice.

On 1998-01-30 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I realize this is not really the thread here, but...
   >When I purchased my 2nd palmtop (one of Thaddeus's 8meg/2x jobs), I
   >got to playing around and found an interesting way to "create" an
   >external modem for my new palmtop.
   >I put my trusty EXP modem in the old palmtop and cabled the two
   >palmtops together via serial port, ran the program COMLINK on the
   >old palmtop and Procomm on the new one, bingo! external modem!
   >Phil
FWIW, I think it should be possible to do this usning IR communication
between the palmtops, but why don't you put the exp-modem in you new
palmtop? (maybe this is a stupid question, but then... please explain)

Bas
Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Hi Brend

If you are looking on the Caldera site,
they are speakink about Java for dos!


But, that true,
It's not on a 200LX
; )

Al

> It's a shame, but it looks like we'll never see Java for our XT DOS
> palmtops. :( Then again, maybe it won't live up to its hype. :)
>
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> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren      PROJECT: Inferring `essence of melody'
>
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:19:57 -0500
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Is there a way to attach/detach files with Post/LX?  I must
admit, I have not thoroughly searched the manual, but I've
scanned it pretty well.  Have I missed something?

Also, how do you "quote" a message in a reply?

One last thing:  in HV.CFG, there is a line beginning with
'mailto', which mentions paledit.  Since e-mail support is
removed from v2.1 of paledit, should this line now begin with
";", or should it refer to Post.exe?


Thanks for the help.

Claud

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My 2meg palmtop is 3 years old, and after replacing it with an 8meg/2x
200, I no longer needed the additional memory contained in the EXP
modem/memory card.  I discovered that my use of the palmtop with modem
was occurring in the same location with only a few rare occasions to the
contrary.  I began leaving the modem in the old palmtop and trying to
keep my phone book and other files synchronized, too much trouble.

I like your idea about using the IR link, I'm going to try it tonight.

Phil

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>
<snipped out my original stuff>
>FWIW, I think it should be possible to do this usning IR communication
>between the palmtops, but why don't you put the exp-modem in you new
>palmtop? (maybe this is a stupid question, but then... please explain)
>
>Bas
>

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"Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

> Is there a way to attach/detach files with Post/LX?  I must
> admit, I have not thoroughly searched the manual, but I've
> scanned it pretty well.  Have I missed something?
>
AFAIK there's no way to attach files. You CAN send MIME-encoded
binaries as separate messages.  To decode binary attachments, you use
MIME-UUDecode from the "external" menu. ( ÝMENU¨ - x - m ).

> Also, how do you "quote" a message in a reply?
>
If you're using PE (I assume from your next paragraph that you are...),
After you hit "Reply" and PE opens, hit ÝF7¨(Next), move down to the
text you want to quote, highlight it, hit Copy (Fn =3D), then hit ÝF7¨
again to return to the first screen, Hit Paste (Fn +), Highlight the
text again, and hit ÝEsc¨+.  That will mark each line with a >.

> One last thing:  in HV.CFG, there is a line beginning with
> 'mailto', which mentions paledit.  Since e-mail support is
> removed from v2.1 of paledit, should this line now begin with
> ";", or should it refer to Post.exe?

I think the hv.cfg line is right, but I can't swear to it since I
haven't responded to a mailto: since upgrading to PE 2.1

-PR
------------

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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:27:28 -0600
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I have noticed this deal with these two types of cells.  The only reason
I see for this effect is, the discharge curve.  The NiCads have a
flatter discharge curve than the NiMH cells, and at the nominal cell
voltage of 1.2, they stay at a usable voltage longer than the NiMH
cells.  The NiMH cells may have a greater capacity, but if the cell
voltage won't stay up where the palmtop needs it...

My two bits.

Phil

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>Sent:  Saturday, January 31, 1998 3:48 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:23:12, John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
>
><snip>
>>Also I am using radio shack 1200mah Nimh batteries and they aren't lasting
>>very
>>long-I get about two days per charge. The radio shack hi capacity 850 mah
>>nicad's lasted longer I got about 3 days per charge. This is weird- they
>>should be lasting longer. Has anybody else experienced this?
>
>I also use Radio Shack's 1200mah Nimh / 850mah Nicad and noticed the same.
>The Nicad's do last longer, reason unknown.
><snip>

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Add to that the fact that it takes ~2/3 of a day to charge NiMH, versus overnights for
NiCads, and it seems to me that NiCads might be more "usable" for this application.

--- On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:27:28 -0600  Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:

>I have noticed this deal with these two types of cells.  The only reason
>I see for this effect is, the discharge curve.  The NiCads have a
>flatter discharge curve than the NiMH cells, and at the nominal cell
>voltage of 1.2, they stay at a usable voltage longer than the NiMH
>cells.  The NiMH cells may have a greater capacity, but if the cell
>voltage won't stay up where the palmtop needs it...
>
>My two bits.
>
>Phil
>
>>----------
>>From:  Quinton Jones JrÝSMTP:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
>>Sent:  Saturday, January 31, 1998 3:48 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:       Re: Post/lx
>>
>>On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:23:12, John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
>>
>><snip>
>>>Also I am using radio shack 1200mah Nimh batteries and they aren't lasting
>>>very
>>>long-I get about two days per charge. The radio shack hi capacity 850 mah
>>>nicad's lasted longer I got about 3 days per charge. This is weird- they
>>>should be lasting longer. Has anybody else experienced this?
>>
>>I also use Radio Shack's 1200mah Nimh / 850mah Nicad and noticed the same.
>>The Nicad's do last longer, reason unknown.
>><snip>
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I have never used the palmtop to charge batteries.  I think a palmtop is
too useful to be sitting around, tied-up charging batteries. <steps off
soapbox>

I use Radio Shack NiCads and NiMH cells.  Radio Shack sells an excellent
charger in 5 and 1 hour versions.  Be warned however, if you use these
chargers you must remove the plastic cover/door over the batteries and
provide a small fan to keep the cells cool.  NiMH cells cannot be
allowed to exceed 100 deg F during charging.

Phil

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>
>I am thinking about using Nimh batteries and I have a few questions about
>charging them.
>

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Phil-
Does that mean you are selling your EXP card?
-David


At 8:20 AM 2/2/98, Phil Drummond wrote:
>My 2meg palmtop is 3 years old, and after replacing it with an 8meg/2x
>200, I no longer needed the additional memory contained in the EXP
>modem/memory card.  I discovered that my use of the palmtop with modem
>was occurring in the same location with only a few rare occasions to the
>contrary.  I began leaving the modem in the old palmtop and trying to
>keep my phone book and other files synchronized, too much trouble.
>
>I like your idea about using the IR link, I'm going to try it tonight.
>
>Phil
>
>>----------
>>From:  Bas PruijnÝSMTP:126479bp@student.eur.nl¨
>>Sent:  Sunday, February 01, 1998 6:57 AM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>
><snipped out my original stuff>
>>FWIW, I think it should be possible to do this usning IR communication
>>between the palmtops, but why don't you put the exp-modem in you new
>>palmtop? (maybe this is a stupid question, but then... please explain)
>>
>>Bas
>>
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David do you still have the 200lx and the 95lx?
Very interested!


David Furniss wrote:

>  I would like to sell my HP 200LX, 2 meg RAM and HP 95, 1 meg RAM.
> Both units are in VERY good condition. First, what is a fair price for
> them? And, second is anyone interested? In addition to the two palm
> tops, I also have:    ACE Game Card vol. I (misc games for HP95, most
> work on the HP200)    Sharp Wizard Case, black simulated leather (good
> case for either HP)    ACE AppMan software (DOS application run-time
> manager)    Project Kick Start software (project management
> program)    Several years back issues to The HP Palmtop Paper with
> each year's Subscriber's Disk of software    Probably a few other odds
> and ends of misc related stuff.



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David do you still have the 200lx and the 95lx?
<BR>Very interested!
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>David Furniss wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-2>I would
like to sell my HP 200LX, 2 meg RAM and HP 95, 1 meg RAM. Both units are
in VERY good condition. First, what is a fair price for them? And, second
is anyone interested?</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-2>In
addition to the two palm tops, I also have:</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
ACE Game Card vol. I (misc games for HP95, most work on the HP200)</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Sharp Wizard Case, black simulated leather (good case for either HP)</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, mdstockr wrote:

> Add to that the fact that it takes ~2/3 of a day to charge NiMH, versus
> overnights for NiCads, and it seems to me that NiCads might be more
> "usable" for this application.

On the other hand, newer NiMH batteries can be charged in the palmtop
whenever you're near an AC outlet, whereas with nicads you might have to
worry about a memory effect...
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Hi,

Is anyone using E Meyer's zip transfer program from Windows NT? I just =
tried it now and it failed with a generic <Error> whenever it tries to =
communicate.

George

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> Greeetings from digest-land. I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem with
> slow serial communications on my HP200LX 2MB. When I run the internal
> diagnostics using "ESC-ON" the "Wire serial port" test replies "no
> loop." I get the same result no matter whether I have any of the
> following connected to the serial port: nothing, a serial cable, a
> serial cable connected to my desktop PC, or a serial cable connected
> to an external modem. I get the same result on my wife's 200LX.
>
> The 200LX Manual does not mention the self-test. HP's website is not
> at all helpful. The HPLX FAQ explains the self-test in general, but
> doesn't mention the serial port test.
>
> Does "no loop" mean that the port is operating normally? Is there
> another test that can be run?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions that you may have.
>
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 16:49:07 -0500
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I've never played with HP's built in testing, but 'no loop' probably means
that there is no loop back plug connected to your serial port.  A loop back
plug connects certain pins to each other allowing a diagnostic program to,
for example, send data out the Transmit line and have it come back on the
Receive line.  The Transmit and Receive lines in this case would be 'looped'
together.  It allows for more thorough testing of the interface in question.


Sean Hoger
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From: Tom Sanko <TSanko@INCONTROL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 4:27 PM
Subject: Serial Port Self-test


>> Greeetings from digest-land. I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem with
>> slow serial communications on my HP200LX 2MB. When I run the internal
>> diagnostics using "ESC-ON" the "Wire serial port" test replies "no
>> loop." I get the same result no matter whether I have any of the
>> following connected to the serial port: nothing, a serial cable, a
>> serial cable connected to my desktop PC, or a serial cable connected
>> to an external modem. I get the same result on my wife's 200LX.
>>
>> The 200LX Manual does not mention the self-test. HP's website is not
>> at all helpful. The HPLX FAQ explains the self-test in general, but
>> doesn't mention the serial port test.
>>
>> Does "no loop" mean that the port is operating normally? Is there
>> another test that can be run?
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions that you may have.
>>
>> Tom Sanko
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I want to get an 8MB EXP fax/data/memory card for my HP200lx.  Any
suggestions as to the least expensive place to acquire one?
-David

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:38:26 -0600
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No.  Too useful!

>----------
>From:  davids@mediamachine.comÝSMTP:davids@mediamachine.com¨
>Sent:  Monday, February 02, 1998 12:24 PM
>To:    Phil Drummond
>Cc:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re:
>
>Phil-
>Does that mean you are selling your EXP card?
>-David
>

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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> I want to get an 8MB EXP fax/data/memory card for my HP200lx.  Any
> suggestions as to the least expensive place to acquire one?
In general:
        http://www.pdapage.com/

(I think) This used to have a great summary of prices, and the best
ones currently.  It now looks different (and loads slower); so I can't
vouch for it.



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> Hi Brend
>
> If you are looking on the Caldera site,
> they are speakink about Java for dos!
>
> But, that true,
> It's not on a 200LX
> ; )

Yeah; I heard about a 286-486 version; but I doubt if even that will
really happen.

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:02:12 -0500
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Just got this off the news groups, thought you all might find it
useful.

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From: brian.macaskill@@odyssey.on.ca (Brian MacAskill)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
Subject: Re: Flash Compatibility??
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:02:03 GMT

The card is a *compact* flash card -- it's the size of a book of
matches. The adapter, (usually included as a $20 option), is the
size of a PCMCIA card.

(I have this gag going where I pull the card out of my 200lx and say
"The amazing thing is not that it's a PCMCIA card, no even that it's
30MB in size, but that..." (and here I pop the compact card out of the
adapter) "... you need an adapter *this big* to make it fit the
200lx." Get's 'em every time.)

I got the card from firstsource.com at US$176, but I see their price
is now US$206. 32bit.com seems to have it for $190.

The best place to start looking is Computer ESP
(http://www.uvision.com/) -- search on "compact flash" at it'll pull
up a list like this:

    $158   20MB Compact Flash Disk Pcmcia With Adapter - SANDISK
CORPORATION
    $173   Flash Card 24MB Compact ATA for Digital Cameras - Simple
Technology, Inc.
    $177   15MB Digital Camera Flash Pcmcia2 - Eiger Labs Inc.
    $179   30MB Compactflash Film WO/ Adapter - MICROTECH INT'L
    $191   30MB Compactflash Film W/Adapter - MICROTECH INT'L
    $218   Flash Card 32MB Compact ATA for Digital Cameras - Simple
Technology, Inc.
    $233   32MB Compact Flash Card W/Adapter for Digital Cameras -
Simple Technology, Inc.
    $331   30MB Digital Camera Flash - Eiger Labs Inc.
    $442   Palmtop 320LX 4MB HPC WCE Word Excel - Hewlett-Packard Co.

Each link leads to 6-12 online vendors, sorted by price. Looks like
the Microtech card is still the best deal.


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Hello
When I put completely drained (0 volt) batteries in my 200LX ABC/LX always
seems to sense them as about 2.2 volts. Will it completely charge the
batteries? Should I use a seperate charger to charge them first then just
use ABC when I get a low battery message? Thanks.
John

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On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:43:52 +0000
   >On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >>I am thinking about using Nimh batteries and I have a few questions
   >>about charging them.
snip
   >isn't one setting that works best for all batteries. The settings
   >for my batteries (per ABC/LX):
   >Rated      Max
   >Capacity   Volt
   >Panasonic NiCad 1100      3.06
   >RadioShack NiMH 1200      2.81
   >YesSolar   NiMH 1300      2.87
   >Times2Tech NiMH 1350      2.92
   >All of the NiMH required about 15-16 hrs of charge and the NiCads
   >needed less tho I forget exactly how much. Additionally, the NiMH
   >batteries tended to "stall" at a given voltage during the charge
   >cycle for a longer time than NiCads (up to 3-4 hours).
   >- Longden

Longden,

How did you get 3.06 volts on Panasonic? I never got even close but I
used the standard 6 hour fastcharge cycle. Could you give us specific
fastcharge times for each of the above? I also have a pair of RS NiMHs
and am expecting a pair in T2Ts this week.


Thnkxmuch.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage.

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Did you try GDBIO and ADBIO? These are utilities that convert dbase and
appt files to ASCII. You may try to read the quikn file with the DOS
quicken. You may also try to open the file with a programming language
with low level file i/o functions and see if you can gleen the record
structure. You may then be able to extract the relevant data. This
involves learning how to program but may be the only alternative.

In the future, consider the use of a flash card for frequent backups.
If you already have one then write a batch file to copy important files
to a backup dir.

Good luck.


On 1998-02-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I have tried posting this question before, but I don't know if it
   >never made it or nobody had an answer... so here goes again
   >I have a corrupt Pocket Quicken file from a bad experience with
   >crashing my 200.  Also, I have had a couple databases go that route.
   >I tried Garlic on the databases, but it said they were too far gone.
   >All the data were still there, but all the header info must have
   >been mucked up.  My PQ file is the same - all the info is in there,
   >I just can't get it out.
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Does anyone know of a DOS based program which will allow one to send
alphanumeric pages via the 200LX? I've got Windoze software but I am
looking for software for my palmtop. Any comments or suggestions would be
welcomed.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

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I checked the archives for battery cover sources.

Edu Calc, I believe, is out of business.

Anyone know of a source?

Thanks
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Hi. I'm sure I've spelt PCMIA wrongly but YKWIM...

I remember hearing about a nifty mobile phone that *is* a PCIMIA
card... I guess it must include a modem in there, too. But if
it is a digital phone, that is really no issue. (?)

Battery life is a problem (!) It would drain 2 AA's in seconds...  so
would need its own batteries, which would be much bigger than the card.

And such a mobile phone couldn't be used *as* a mobile phone...
halving its usefulness.


I guess the other approach is just to  plug your modem into your
lx and mobile phone, and away you go! The 700cx (? 1000cx) version
of the hp200lx has a modem built-in, doesn't it?

I'm thinking that it would be so cool to be able to upload stuff to
your web-page from the unit itself! And of course, you can look
up anything you want on the internet - from dictionaries to the
stock exchange, from anywhere. The worl'd reference book in your
pocket!


Sorry. Just a little too much caffiene again :)

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>However, aren't there hundreds of emulators available already for DOS.  I
>genuinely don't know as my first DOS-only machine is the 200lx that
>arrived at my door last week.


There certainly are. I've got one called VGB from 1995, and it's
near-perfect. It even supports Game Genie codes. Haven't tried it on the
palmtop.

Hell, there's even a near-perfect NES emulator for DOS. It's called
Nesticle.

They're almost always freeware, by the way. I'll send them to anyone who
wants.

The games, of course, are another matter. ;)

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:28:37 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Questions about Charging Nimh Batteries
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:

>    >Rated      Max
>    >Capacity   Volt
>    >Panasonic NiCad 1100      3.06
>    >RadioShack NiMH 1200      2.81
>    >YesSolar   NiMH 1300      2.87
>    >Times2Tech NiMH 1350      2.92
>    >All of the NiMH required about 15-16 hrs of charge and the NiCads
>    >needed less tho I forget exactly how much. Additionally, the NiMH
>    >batteries tended to "stall" at a given voltage during the charge
>    >cycle for a longer time than NiCads (up to 3-4 hours).
>    >- Longden
>
> Longden,
>
> How did you get 3.06 volts on Panasonic? I never got even close but I
> used the standard 6 hour fastcharge cycle. Could you give us specific
> fastcharge times for each of the above? I also have a pair of RS NiMHs
> and am expecting a pair in T2Ts this week.

Could be that your lot of batteries differed from mine. Also, on my last
charge, the Panasonics stalled at 3.03v. These are my ABC/LX settings:

Brand   MaxVolt Stall   MaxTime
Pan     3.03    2:39    13:52
RS      2.81    4:00    15:00
Yes     2.87    4:00    15:13
T2T     2.92    4:00    16:00

On all the NiMH brands, I abritrarily increased ABC/LX's suggested stall
time to 4 hours, as they sometimes can be pushed to exceed the suggested
value (about 2-3 hrs), and then proceed to increase in voltage.

The values were arrived at using the "auto-tune" feature on ABC/LX
periodically during several weeks of use. I rarely finish a charge in 6
hours (the normal fast cycle) and let ABC/LX take over all the charging
(as it was supposed to do). In turn, it basically forces fast charge for
the complete duration (ie, up to 15 hours in some cases) and relies on the
maximum values for stall time and voltage to avoid frying the cells.

For example, the last Panasonic charge didn't reach 3.03v till after 9
hours of fast charging.

Works so far. Guess I won't know for sure for another 450 charges or so
whether I'm killing my batteries or not.

- Longden

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On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Hi. I'm sure I've spelt PCMIA wrongly but YKWIM...
Naah, it was nothing. People just think you're typing it on your LX...

> I remember hearing about a nifty mobile phone that *is* a PCIMIA
> card... I guess it must include a modem in there, too. But if
> it is a digital phone, that is really no issue. (?)

Ok kids, here we go P-C-M-C-I-A - People Can't Memorize Computer Industry
Acronyms :-)

Incidentally, this is why the standard is now (officially) renamed to
PC-Cards.

> Battery life is a problem (!) It would drain 2 AA's in seconds...  so
> would need its own batteries, which would be much bigger than the card.
>
> And such a mobile phone couldn't be used *as* a mobile phone...
> halving its usefulness.

What about a phone that was a standard mobile phone (albeit a very small
one), but with one end formed as a PCMCIA card - thus it could be inserted
into a slot without problems, although it would look slightly bulky. I
think it exists but I can't remember where I saw it.

> I guess the other approach is just to  plug your modem into your
> lx and mobile phone, and away you go! The 700cx (? 1000cx) version
> of the hp200lx has a modem built-in, doesn't it?

That would be 700lx, I think the 1000cx is just an "empty" 200LX.

> I'm thinking that it would be so cool to be able to upload stuff to
> your web-page from the unit itself! And of course, you can look
> up anything you want on the internet - from dictionaries to the
> stock exchange, from anywhere. The worl'd reference book in your
> pocket!

Anyway, I've thought of this too and I'd rather have a flashcard - much
cheaper in the long run (my phone bill is large enough as it is). I did
dig out my old 2400baud WorldPort modem (very small), but I haven't tried
it with the LX yet... 2400baud should just be enough for e-mail (but not
the list). hmmm...


Regards,

Laust
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, STAN ALEXANDER wrote:

> I checked the archives for battery cover sources.
>
> Edu Calc, I believe, is out of business.
>
> Anyone know of a source?

From HP. Search the archives for "Palmtop Maintenance Kit", which is what
HP calls the $20 package of spare parts.

If you don't want to spend that much, you can always ask around...someone
may have a spare.

- Longden

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> What about a phone that was a standard mobile phone (albeit a very small
> one), but with one end formed as a PCMCIA card - thus it could be inserted
> into a slot without problems,
Snap! <g>


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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:48:44 +1100
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Hi,

I've just had a funky idea for music notation representation on the lx.

It would be using .PCX (I can convert to others with lxpic).


Could someone point me to a description of the format of PCX?
Or even better, post an actual description?

Thanks!

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Where can I get a copy of ABC/LX?

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 05:44:00 -0800
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, John Musielewicz wrote:

> When I put completely drained (0 volt) batteries in my 200LX ABC/LX always
> seems to sense them as about 2.2 volts. Will it completely charge the
> batteries? Should I use a seperate charger to charge them first then just
> use ABC when I get a low battery message? Thanks.

You should let ABC/LX "tune" your batteries to find the charging
parameters that work best for it so you'll get a full capacity charge each
time. The following is out of the ABC/LX documentation:

"ABCTSR comes with pre-installed values for all the parameters such as the
maximum charging time etc. These default values are most certainly not
appropriate for your batteries since every battery is unlike any other
battery. The only useful way for setting up the parameters for *your*
batteries, is testing how your batteries behave while charging and setting
the parameters accordingly.

In order to tune ABCTSR for your batteries, the batteries should neither
be completely new (=empty) nor fully charged. If your batteries are
completely new, charge them first. If they are fully charged, use them in
the palmtop for about one or two hours before starting the tuning. Also,
tuning will take from 3 to 12 hours and you will have to run ABC.EXE as
the topmost application during that time."

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:44:32 -0500
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I have some paging software that I wrote for DOS.  I have never tried it on
the 200LX, but there is no reason it should not work.  What did you need it
to do?  What paging protocol do you need it to support?


Sean Hoger
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If you don't mind, it doesn't matter."
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From: Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 11:02 PM
Subject: Paging Program


>Does anyone know of a DOS based program which will allow one to send
>alphanumeric pages via the 200LX? I've got Windoze software but I am
>looking for software for my palmtop. Any comments or suggestions would be
>welcomed.
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
>           **This message was sent via a HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 05:50:50 -0800
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On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, David Bialik wrote:

> Where can I get a copy of ABC/LX?

Look at the vendor's website at http://www.dasoft.com/ABC/abc.html

You can download a demo version that's good for several weeks/months
before it cripples itself...so you can see if it's worth your money.

- Longden

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HP>Does anyone know of a DOS based program which will allow one to send
HP>alphanumeric pages via the 200LX? I've got Windoze software but I am
HP>looking for software for my palmtop. Any comments or suggestions would be
HP>welcomed.


HP>73 de KF4KGQ
HP>Jeff Johns
HP>jeffj@scott.net
HP>Reserve Captain
HP>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
HP>Birmingham, Alabama USA
HP>http://www.bham.net/jcsd

HP>           **This message was sent via a HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

   Well, Jeff, there is no real need to use a special program, try to
access the server, with a terminal program like datacomm, etc
Here, i'm using that method with "Skytel", and it works fine, you access
the server, and you will see a menu, like SEND, RETRIEVE, etc

If the server does not support this method, well, then you need a
special program.

I bought "SKYWORD ACCESS FOR DOS" a few years ago for $19.99, and it's
great, and it works fine on the 200LX, now the program it's freeware, i
mean, "Skytel" is giving it as free, if you want a copy, email me,
and i will send it to you

Hope this helps



Martin
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This may be old stuff, but recent postings from people with spare LX's and
trying to synch them via IR made me wonder about using Laplink.

I know Filer can do the job...the problem, as others pointed out, is that
synching becomes a manual process (select files, copy or move, repeat on
the other system).

I found that you can set up one LX as a Laplink server and the other as
the client and run straight DOS to access the files on the server via
Laplink/IR. Running a batch file would make the updates (at least on the
file level) as easy a one command. I plan on experimenting with the
bac.com copy command (an oldie from PC Magazine) that only overwrites
copies of duplicate files depending on the source/target dates...otherwise
its like a straight copy command.

If anyone wants to know...these are the setups:

Server LX (will act as a slave system):

-exit to DOS
-type 'llras' command to load Laplink
-type '200' to start AppMgr
-pick 'Laplink Remote' icon
-press 'f4' for IR
-screen should show "waiting for connection"

Client LX (will be able to access server LX's drives from DOS):

-exit to DOS
-type 'llrair' command to load Laplink using IR
-point IR ports at each other
-wait for server screen to change from "waiting" to "connected"
        (takes about 10 secs)
-now from client, you should be able to do  a "dir g:" which will display
        the directory of the server's C drive.
-I was able to copy some 600k of file data from the server drive to the
client drive without problems using straight 'copy' from DOS.


note: I noticed that some commands will break the connection and then I
couldn't restart the connection without rebooting the client LX and
redoing the client steps. Going '200'/Filer will display a whole slew of
drives (A-H?), but attempting to pick the G: drive breaks the connection.
Of course, if you wanted to use Filer in the first place, you wouldn't
bother with LapLink <g>.

On a related note...I believe someone mentioned using a spare LX as an
external modem....an interesting idea that a cheap 14.4k Card modem and a
cheap LX (ie, less than pristine) may make a substitute pocket modem.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:30:34 -0500
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Hello
I have heard there is a 32meg ram upgrade availible in Japan. Does anyone
know how they would go about making the LX reconize that much memory? How
would they get the memory in there? Would they have to replace the onboard
memory along with the board? Thanks.
John

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:50:43 -0800
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> I've just had a funky idea for music notation representation on the lx.
>
> It would be using .PCX (I can convert to others with lxpic).
>
> Could someone point me to a description of the format of PCX?
> Or even better, post an actual description?
>

Brendan,

A whole slew of 2-d graphics file specs can be found at:
  URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/2d-hi.html

In particular, the PCX specification is
  URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/2d/PCX.txt

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:02:24 +1300
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Subject:      PC keyboard for the LX!

OK, so here's the deal, my latest project, i have looked at the
Newton keyboard and it is well made and has a good feel to the
key-presses, but it is no better than the LX when it comes to
having no discreet Page-Up Page-Down keys and all the other ones
so easily reached on a PC keyboard.

i touch-type, so can do everything on a standars 102 without
having to look, using RemKey, i can connect via cable to the back
of a PC and use it's keyboard to input data nad run programs on
the LX which is wonderful, but you are chained to a great,
humming paper weight/wait.

i want to break free!

Well said Freddy Mercury...

The reason the Newton keyboard works, is it has a simple serial
interface, whereas the PC keyboard(at least those made after
1987!) is not serial and requires interfacing.

www.hagstromelectronics.com specialises in keyboard interfaces
and i have contacted them, they see no problems, especially if we
work with the two programmers that did RemKey and the Newton
tsr.

Depending on the interest, they can either modify an existing
unit, or build a custom one. We envisage a box about 1/2 the size
of a match-box(hope everybody remembers those!) with a CR2030
cell or maybe an AA cell, a female keyboard interface on one side
and a 232 male interface on the other.

This would allow you to carry a tiny box which would connect
almost any PC keyboard to your LX, you could borrow one, or the
other idea i had was an add-on for a standard $20.00 keyboard of
a plate that attaches by spring clips and has a double-jointed
fold around plate which the LX would snap into and a couple of
swing out extensions to stabilise the keyboard on your legs, or
they could stay swiveled in if using a table.

i feel certain we could do it for less than or equal to the
Newton keyboard price.

Any and all feed-back appreciated.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:30:36 +0200
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GREAT! I like the idea about tiny box the most
Serge
>
> This would allow you to carry a tiny box which would connect
> almost any PC keyboard to your LX, you could borrow one, or the
> other idea i had was an add-on for a standard $20.00 keyboard of
> a plate that attaches by spring clips and has a double-jointed
> fold around plate which the LX would snap into and a couple of
> swing out extensions to stabilise the keyboard on your legs, or
> they could stay swiveled in if using a table.
>

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 09:06:25 +1030
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I have put together a collection of freeware software packages for the
HP200LX palmtop that provide PPP connectivity from within the System
Manager.  The collection is called "LXPPP", and version 0.5 beta is
now available from my web site.

Version 0.4 beta is actually being used by a number of people now, and
version 0.5 beta has the following improvements over version 0.4:

    Version 0.5 - February 1998 (Adelaide, Australia)
    -------------------------------------------------
    If pophost is not specified, then don't try to access it.
    Same for smtphost and nntphost.
    If the password is not specified, then prompt for it.
    Added the maximum size parameters.
    Added line debugging for socket errors.

The first goal of LXPPP is that it should be possible to connect to
your ISP via PPP and transfer email between your POP mailbox and your
HP200LX without having to exit from the System Manager.

The second goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to do this without
paying anyone any money for the software.

The third goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to modify and
recompile the software on the HP200LX (assuming you've got Borland C++
2.0 and a large enough flash card).

The current functionality allows you to connect to your ISP via a PPP
packet driver, upload outgoing news and mail from your Palmtop News
Reader (PNR) reply directory and download incoming mail to your PNR
spool directory.  I hope to include a complete set of utilities for
all those things you're used to doing under Unix (like ping, ftp,
telnet, etc.) - hopefully I can get the source code to these.

There is not much documentation as yet, but I have made the source
code available in a separate file.  For those of you who are very
brave, this package will allow you to retrieve your POP mail from a
DOS box inside System Manager using less than 150k of memory, and then
read it using pnrti and pnr.

To use this package, you will need to know how to install a PPP packet
driver and how to configure a WATTCP.CFG file.  Instructions for doing
these things can be found in the dosppp and wattcp packages.  I have
included links to these packages on my web site.  If you have never
used PPP on your palmtop before, then you may find this difficult to
install and use (on the other hand, you might get it to work first
time and be completely satisfied).

If you get LXPPP to work, please send me email.  If you get it to
work, and find a bug, definately send me email.  If you can get your
PPP connection to work (i.e. you can PING other hosts), but can't get
LXPPP to work, please send me email and I'll try to help you.  If you
can't get your PPP connection to work, then you're on your own until
the production release of LXPPP.

When LXPPP is stable, I will submit it to the S.U.P.E.R. site (where
it will join my ExmBatch package, which also includes source code).

-- Rod Whitby (rwhitby@geocities.com)
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 16:04:11 -0800
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I'd buy the box (not the keyboard, etc.).

At 11:02 AM 2/4/98 +1300, you wrote:
>OK, so here's the deal, my latest project, i have looked at the
>Newton keyboard and it is well made and has a good feel to the
>key-presses, but it is no better than the LX when it comes to
>having no discreet Page-Up Page-Down keys and all the other ones
>so easily reached on a PC keyboard.
>
>i touch-type, so can do everything on a standars 102 without
>having to look, using RemKey, i can connect via cable to the back
>of a PC and use it's keyboard to input data nad run programs on
>the LX which is wonderful, but you are chained to a great,
>humming paper weight/wait.
>
>i want to break free!
>
>Well said Freddy Mercury...
>
>The reason the Newton keyboard works, is it has a simple serial
>interface, whereas the PC keyboard(at least those made after
>1987!) is not serial and requires interfacing.
>
>www.hagstromelectronics.com specialises in keyboard interfaces
>and i have contacted them, they see no problems, especially if we
>work with the two programmers that did RemKey and the Newton
>tsr.
>
>Depending on the interest, they can either modify an existing
>unit, or build a custom one. We envisage a box about 1/2 the size
>of a match-box(hope everybody remembers those!) with a CR2030
>cell or maybe an AA cell, a female keyboard interface on one side
>and a 232 male interface on the other.
>
>This would allow you to carry a tiny box which would connect
>almost any PC keyboard to your LX, you could borrow one, or the
>other idea i had was an add-on for a standard $20.00 keyboard of
>a plate that attaches by spring clips and has a double-jointed
>fold around plate which the LX would snap into and a couple of
>swing out extensions to stabilise the keyboard on your legs, or
>they could stay swiveled in if using a table.
>
>i feel certain we could do it for less than or equal to the
>Newton keyboard price.
>
>Any and all feed-back appreciated.
>
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:48:48 -0500
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I have been using a DOS base program also called Alfie-Jr.  It has been a
good program!!  If you are interested in this program I also would be more
than happy to send you an email w/the program.  I'm not sure if they still
sell this version...  But all of their new version do not work on the HP200.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 03, 1998 2:20 PM
Subject: Paging Program


>HP>Does anyone know of a DOS based program which will allow one to send
>HP>alphanumeric pages via the 200LX? I've got Windoze software but I am
>HP>looking for software for my palmtop. Any comments or suggestions would
be
>HP>welcomed.
>
>
>HP>73 de KF4KGQ
>HP>Jeff Johns
>HP>jeffj@scott.net
>HP>Reserve Captain
>HP>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>HP>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>HP>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
>HP>           **This message was sent via a HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**
>
>   Well, Jeff, there is no real need to use a special program, try to
>access the server, with a terminal program like datacomm, etc
>Here, i'm using that method with "Skytel", and it works fine, you access
>the server, and you will see a menu, like SEND, RETRIEVE, etc
>
>If the server does not support this method, well, then you need a
>special program.
>
>I bought "SKYWORD ACCESS FOR DOS" a few years ago for $19.99, and it's
>great, and it works fine on the 200LX, now the program it's freeware, i
>mean, "Skytel" is giving it as free, if you want a copy, email me,
>and i will send it to you
>
>Hope this helps
>
>
>
>Martin
>Marseb@giga.com.ar
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The match-box sized device would be real nice, maybe
product-of-the-year caliber.

Please try to wire in a AA or some other battery which can be
recharged (not a 9-volt!).


David Lawrence wrote:
>
> OK, so here's the deal, my latest project, i have looked at the
> Newton keyboard and it is well made and has a good feel to the
> key-presses, but it is no better than the LX when it comes to
> having no discreet Page-Up Page-Down keys and all the other ones
> so easily reached on a PC keyboard.
>
<snip>
>
> Depending on the interest, they can either modify an existing
> unit, or build a custom one. We envisage a box about 1/2 the size
> of a match-box(hope everybody remembers those!) with a CR2030
> cell or maybe an AA cell, a female keyboard interface on one side
> and a 232 male interface on the other.

<snip>

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:20:55 -0800
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Subject:      Does LapLink 95/NT work with (talk to) the HP-200LX? If not,
              what on NT does?

The answer is either "obviously yes" or "obviously no"... but which is it?

I bought LapLink 95/NT thinking the former... but the documentation seems
(implicitly) to indicate the latter.

If the latter... is there ANYTHING that will run on NT that will connect to
the LapLink server on the 200LX?

Help?!

- Joe

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:12:04 EST
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Subject:      Speed upgrade and memory upgrade

Thought I'd share my experience with a double whammy upgrade,
installation of both a 4Meg daughterboard from NSW to bring my HP200 to 5
Meg, and a speed doubler from Times 2 Tech.

The procedures that T2T gave for opening the HP were outstanding. Clear,
with good illustrations to back up the written directions. I had
difficulty wicking all of the solder out of the crystal holes, so I ended
up heating the leads and pushing them through. I also managed to spatter
a little solder on the nearby CPU pins, but cleaned it up nicely with
solder wick. It may sound like I am a complete oaf with a soldering iron,
but I am not. At least not a _complete_ oaf. I think that if you are not
really comfortable with a soldering iron, it is probably worth the peace
of mind to send the calculator to T2T and pay the small fee they charge
to install the crystal. I have to admit I had some trepidation until I
ran the ESC/ON diagnostics. One interesting side effect when running
those diagnostics is that the timers are reported as bad - with a value
twice what is expected. There must be another timekeeping device built
into the HP200 somewhere.

I got one of the $69 4Meg upgrades from NSW before they got out of the
business, and I believe it is available still at $75 from an ad I saw on
S.U.P.E.R.  Although their disassembly instructions were not as good as
T2T, the actual installation is trivial. I strongly recommend that if you
haven't done this upgrade, it is still worthwhile at $75.

As far as performance goes, the speed upgrade makes a big difference. I
have a personnel database with 130 people, and a phone database with over
300 entries, and I was used to type in the search letters, and then
looking away for a few seconds while the HP caught up. No more- by the
time I type the first four letters of someone's name their record is on
screen and ready to go - worth the price of admission right there.

I got the 4Meg upgrade with the intention of using the EMM200 driver, but
it did not work for me. When I ran MAKEEMS, I got a 1meg read only EMS
file, but when I did a chkdsk on it, it was not contiguous blocks. Does
anyone know what I am doing wrong? If so, could you email the file/info
to ShirleeMc@worldnet.att.net.  My command line consisted of:
makeems 64

Thanks in advance.

I am trying to get the EMS to work in the hopes of installing Turbo C++
version 3.0 on the HP200. Has anyone out there done that successfully? I
have been running Turbo C version 1.5 and was hoping to branch into C++,
but that will be dependent on my ability to get this running.

As a final note, in the line of don't you be as stupid as I was, I backed
up all my files before securing the HP200 for the upgrade process, just
like the directions say. What I did not do was to CLOSE!!!! the
applications before backing them up. This is particularly important for
the APPT.ADB file, which is why I have spent the last day trying to
recover data from a corrupted ADB file and will spend most of this
evening rekeying in the data. Learn from my mistake and make sure all the
applications are closed prior to shutting down for the installation.

Good luck to all that try the upgrades - My next purchase is to get the
"more better" NiMH batteries from T2T!!

Brian

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> We envisage a box about 1/2 the size of a match-box with a CR2030
> cell or maybe an AA cell

> This would allow you to carry a tiny box which would connect
> almost any PC keyboard to your LX, you could borrow one...

...or carry one around.
I could go for this. There *are* light-weight PC keyboards around.
This seems the correct solution to me - if you are going to carry
around extra stuff with you, go all the way!

OTOH there is something oddly disquitening about a keyboard that is
an order of magnitude larger than the computer and VDU combined!


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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:35:54 +1100
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In-Reply-To:  <19980203.181025.14183.0.bamcilvaine@juno.com> from "Brian A
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Thanks for your report!

> I got one of the $69 4Meg upgrades from NSW before they got out of the
> business, and I believe it is available still at $75 from an ad I saw on
> S.U.P.E.R.

Anyone know if this is still true?

> I am trying to get the EMS to work in the hopes of installing Turbo C++
> version 3.0 on the HP200.
Any reason for not using Turbo C++ version 1.01? Works beaut for me;
and I'll heard others agree. Also heard that later versions got much
bigger (my installation is just over 1MB) - though I must admit I
am only using it as a C compiler.


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I have aquired ABC/LX for my 200LX and have a couple of questions for the
list members. I am using 1200mAh NiMH batteries and have used the
auto-tune feature of ABC/LX but for some reason, the auto-tune does not
seem to correctly configure the program. ABC/LX does not charge the
batteries long enough :( Am I going to have to manually configure the
program due to the NiMH batteries and if so can someone reccomend the
correct values for my batteries? Thanks in advance!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:15:51 -0500
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 02:15:38 +0000
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On 1998-02-03 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I have aquired ABC/LX for my 200LX and have a couple of questions
   >for the list members. I am using 1200mAh NiMH batteries and have
   >used the auto-tune feature of ABC/LX but for some reason, the
   >auto-tune does not seem to correctly configure the program. ABC/LX
   >does not charge the batteries long enough :( Am I going to have to
   >manually configure the program due to the NiMH batteries and if so
   >can someone reccomend the correct values for my batteries? Thanks

Jeff, what kinds of numbers did auto-tune give you for max voltage, stall time
and maximum charge time?

I have 1200mAh Radio Shacks and I have those numbers set to 2.81 volt, 4hrs,
and 15hrs max., but my numbers may not be good for you as there's apparently
significant variation even between batches of the same type of battery (per
the makers of ABC/LX).

If the batteries are new, it sometimes takes several charges before they seem
to stabilize. Also some members report lower than expected usage times with the
RS 1200mAh cells for unknown reasons. My Panasonic 1100mAh outperformed them
in a simple loop-till-death test.

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Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> I am using 1200mAh NiMH batteries and have used the
> auto-tune feature of ABC/LX but for some reason, the auto-tune does=
 not
> seem to correctly configure the program. ABC/LX does not charge the
> batteries long enough :( Am I going to have to manually configure=
 the
> program due to the NiMH batteries and if so can someone reccomend=
 the
> correct values for my batteries? Thanks in advance!!!

Hi Jeff & group-

I've had this same thing happen with a set of RS 1200 mAHr NiMHs.  Last
2 cycles, I manually configured ABC/LX to stop at 2.83V or 4Hr stall
time, or 12Hrs total.  This gives about 8Hrs charging, and 5-6 hours=
 of
use between charges. (Single speed 1Meg 100LX with 15Meg 12V San Disk).
May try increasing the stall time to 6Hrs and see how that works.  I
think I'll probably go back to the RS 850mAHr NiCds, but I'll try to
give the NiMH a fair trial.

-PR
------------

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:43:29 -0500
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you might have to tweak the values a little. To fully charge a set of 1200
mah from 0 volts in the 200LX takes about 18 hours depending on the brand.
Who made these batteries? ABC should have been able to charge them fully.
John

At 07:38 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I have aquired ABC/LX for my 200LX and have a couple of questions for the
>list members. I am using 1200mAh NiMH batteries and have used the
>auto-tune feature of ABC/LX but for some reason, the auto-tune does not
>seem to correctly configure the program. ABC/LX does not charge the
>batteries long enough :( Am I going to have to manually configure the
>program due to the NiMH batteries and if so can someone reccomend the
>correct values for my batteries? Thanks in advance!!!
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:44:04 -0500
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Do you get a very good run from the Radio Shack batteries? I finally
replaced them with a brand unknown and where the Radio Shack would be half
gone my brand unknown's are still full.

John

At 09:15 PM 2/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 02:15:38 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980204021536.AAA4835@Ý12.64.37.106¨>
>
>On 1998-02-03 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>   >I have aquired ABC/LX for my 200LX and have a couple of questions
>   >for the list members. I am using 1200mAh NiMH batteries and have
>   >used the auto-tune feature of ABC/LX but for some reason, the
>   >auto-tune does not seem to correctly configure the program. ABC/LX
>   >does not charge the batteries long enough :( Am I going to have to
>   >manually configure the program due to the NiMH batteries and if so
>   >can someone reccomend the correct values for my batteries? Thanks
>
>Jeff, what kinds of numbers did auto-tune give you for max voltage, stall
time
>and maximum charge time?
>
>I have 1200mAh Radio Shacks and I have those numbers set to 2.81 volt, 4hrs,
>and 15hrs max., but my numbers may not be good for you as there's apparently
>significant variation even between batches of the same type of battery (per
>the makers of ABC/LX).
>
>If the batteries are new, it sometimes takes several charges before they seem
>to stabilize. Also some members report lower than expected usage times
with the
>RS 1200mAh cells for unknown reasons. My Panasonic 1100mAh outperformed them
>in a simple loop-till-death test.
>
>- Longden
>
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Do you get good use out of any RS rechargable? I used both the nicads and
the nickel metal and found neither one will hold a charge very well. And
they are expensive. They're six bucks a set for nicads and I can get nicads
that will hold a better charge for 3 bucks a set at the local electronics
store.

John

At 09:24 PM 2/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:
>
>> I am using 1200mAh NiMH batteries and have used the
>> auto-tune feature of ABC/LX but for some reason, the auto-tune does not
>> seem to correctly configure the program. ABC/LX does not charge the
>> batteries long enough :( Am I going to have to manually configure the
>> program due to the NiMH batteries and if so can someone reccomend the
>> correct values for my batteries? Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Hi Jeff & group-
>
>I've had this same thing happen with a set of RS 1200 mAHr NiMHs.  Last
>2 cycles, I manually configured ABC/LX to stop at 2.83V or 4Hr stall
>time, or 12Hrs total.  This gives about 8Hrs charging, and 5-6 hours of
>use between charges. (Single speed 1Meg 100LX with 15Meg 12V San Disk).
>May try increasing the stall time to 6Hrs and see how that works.  I
>think I'll probably go back to the RS 850mAHr NiCds, but I'll try to
>give the NiMH a fair trial.
>
>-PR
>------------
>
>Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
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my ABC/LX does set the maximum voltage to 2.81 but since it stops
charging as soon as it reaches this voltage it doesn't seem to charge the
batteries fully. I have noticed that with the NiMH batteries they will
stall for 3-5 hours and then take some more "juice" and increase their
voltage up to about 2.83 volts. I guess I'm just wondering if it would be
safe to either increase the maximum voltage, the stall time or both?


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:53:51 -0500
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I'm assuming we'd need to run a pogram to capture output from the
converter? I'd LOVE this. I want to make my HP200LX the only thing
I carry around. :-)

                                                --wayne -






On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> OK, so here's the deal, my latest project, i have looked at the
> Newton keyboard and it is well made and has a good feel to the
> key-presses, but it is no better than the LX when it comes to
> having no discreet Page-Up Page-Down keys and all the other ones
> so easily reached on a PC keyboard.
>
> i touch-type, so can do everything on a standars 102 without
> having to look, using RemKey, i can connect via cable to the back
> of a PC and use it's keyboard to input data nad run programs on
> the LX which is wonderful, but you are chained to a great,
> humming paper weight/wait.
>
> i want to break free!
>
> Well said Freddy Mercury...
>
> The reason the Newton keyboard works, is it has a simple serial
> interface, whereas the PC keyboard(at least those made after
> 1987!) is not serial and requires interfacing.
>
> www.hagstromelectronics.com specialises in keyboard interfaces
> and i have contacted them, they see no problems, especially if we
> work with the two programmers that did RemKey and the Newton
> tsr.
>
> Depending on the interest, they can either modify an existing
> unit, or build a custom one. We envisage a box about 1/2 the size
> of a match-box(hope everybody remembers those!) with a CR2030
> cell or maybe an AA cell, a female keyboard interface on one side
> and a 232 male interface on the other.
>
> This would allow you to carry a tiny box which would connect
> almost any PC keyboard to your LX, you could borrow one, or the
> other idea i had was an add-on for a standard $20.00 keyboard of
> a plate that attaches by spring clips and has a double-jointed
> fold around plate which the LX would snap into and a couple of
> swing out extensions to stabilise the keyboard on your legs, or
> they could stay swiveled in if using a table.
>
> i feel certain we could do it for less than or equal to the
> Newton keyboard price.
>
> Any and all feed-back appreciated.
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:21:00 -0800
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Comments: To: David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>

David,

YES! This will be soooooo cool!

I agree with Claud G. Cameron - I'd rather just buy the box, and use my own
keyboard(s).

- Joe

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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:29:16 -0500
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Thats pretty full. You are actually overcharging them at this point. Thats
not good for the batteries.

At 09:49 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote:
>my ABC/LX does set the maximum voltage to 2.81 but since it stops
>charging as soon as it reaches this voltage it doesn't seem to charge the
>batteries fully. I have noticed that with the NiMH batteries they will
>stall for 3-5 hours and then take some more "juice" and increase their
>voltage up to about 2.83 volts. I guess I'm just wondering if it would be
>safe to either increase the maximum voltage, the stall time or both?
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:40:24 -0800
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Due to the lack of entries, the deadline for the contest at my site has been
pushed back until Monday, February 9.  So feel free to put in a last minute
entry to win free upgrades and batteries from Times2 Tech!

--
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You can get power from the serial interface - 5 V.
You may need the button cell for the matchbox internals,
but I doubt it would supply the keyboard (not designed for
low power). If you are carting around a keyboard, I couldn't see
using a power cube being a problem.


David Lawrence wrote:

> www.hagstromelectronics.com specialises in keyboard interfaces
> and i have contacted them, they see no problems, especially if we
> work with the two programmers that did RemKey and the Newton
> tsr.
>
> Depending on the interest, they can either modify an existing
> unit, or build a custom one. We envisage a box about 1/2 the size
> of a match-box(hope everybody remembers those!) with a CR2030
> cell or maybe an AA cell, a female keyboard interface on one side
> and a 232 male interface on the other.

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:13:30 +1300
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Subject:      PC Keyboard & Netiquette...

Hi all, i am pleased to announce that i have had replys from 16
of you in less than 12 hours!

Great! One tiny moan, though, as i use my LX for email, i don't
have a hell of a lot of room, so could the replyees please clip
the quoted letter down to skeletal size?

i am still waiting on relys from the two gun programers (RemKey &
Newton keyboard) but ***** are happy with the concept and
depending on the demand, may either modify an existing module, or
if there are enough of us crazies to make it economic for them,
actually design a custom unit.

The battery thing, BTW, i was just firing in the dark, i will
leave it to the professionals to decide just how much battery is
needed.

Thanks for the enthusiastic replys and keep connecting the dots!

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 05:53:27 +0000
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At 09:49 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote:
>my ABC/LX does set the maximum voltage to 2.81 but since it stops
>charging as soon as it reaches this voltage it doesn't seem to charge the
>batteries fully. I have noticed that with the NiMH batteries they will

That's a perceptual thing. ABC/LX may have determined that's the top of your
cup and stops pouring the juice at just the right time. So now you
think...maybe the cup's higher <g>.

>stall for 3-5 hours and then take some more "juice" and increase their
>voltage up to about 2.83 volts. I guess I'm just wondering if it would be
>safe to either increase the maximum voltage, the stall time or both?

I doubt that you'd get much more life out of the cells by taking them to 2.83.

But if you're concerned that you're undercharging unnecesarily, you may want
to run auto-tune again. It basically tries to find your batteries limits.
Since you're not doing this on a regular basis, I'm guessing this won't
cause significant lasting damage.

What I do is:
- during regular charging with ABC/LX, I check the reason (F7) for the
completion.
- if several charge cycles complete where the maximum voltage was reached, I
try
        either auto-tuning again or manually tweaking the voltage UP a bit
- if several charge cycles complete where the stall limit was reached, I try
LOWERING
        the voltage a bit.

The documentation said to expect the numbers to change as the batteries age
and lose their ability to hold a charge, or to reach former voltage levels.
This doesn't sound like your case as yours are new.

As I said earlier, the 1200mAh Radio Shack NiMH's have been something of a
disappointment. All I can suggest is that we keep trying different cells to
look for something with more "umph". If nothing else, at least you'll have a
decent supply of rechargeables (which you can use for other things too).
I've been happy with the Times2Tech cells, which rate at 1350mAh.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 01:58:00 -0600
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > I got one of the $69 4Meg upgrades from NSW before they got out of the
> > business, and I believe it is available still at $75 from an ad I saw on
> > S.U.P.E.R.
>
> Anyone know if this is still true?

I do not know if they still have any available (I got mine though), but
check out Marcan Distribution : Network at: http://www.marcan-dist.com/

They are the new distributor for the former NSW 4MB upgrade. The kit is
$75 including torx bit and connector and $69 for just the upgrade
board.  I do not know if they are offering free installation as NSW
did.

What I really appreciate is the fact that they are honoring the warranty
on upgrades purchased from NSW, 1 year from invoice date.   With this
offer they get my vote.

--
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Pillar Communication
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At 15:30 3/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello
>I have heard there is a 32meg ram upgrade availible in Japan. Does anyone
>know how they would go about making the LX reconize that much memory? How

The 200LX is already ready to recognize that much memory. According to a
well informed source, the 200LX ROM can handle up to 8MB per RAS line,
totalling 32MB when using the four available RAS lines.

>would they get the memory in there? Would they have to replace the onboard

It's just a PCB (little bit larger that usual upgrades) with four chips,
two on each side.

>memory along with the board? Thanks.

In the case of the japanese upgrade, yes. The mainboard memory must be
removed because the RAS line that controls it must be used for the upgrade.

BTW, up to 32MB can be connected per RAS line, though the BIOS (i.e. RAM
disk driver) seems to support only 8MB. This means that a 32MB upgrade
without removing the onboard RAM is possible (for a total of 34MB), but a
new RAM driver would have to be written.

Regards. Nacho.

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On 1998-02-02 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Hi,
   >Is anyone using E Meyer's zip transfer program from Windows NT? I
   >just = tried it now and it failed with a generic <Error> whenever
   >it tries to = communicate.
   >George
Sorry George never tried it. I reply because my question is more or less the
same. Is it possible to acces a windows NT machine from the 200lx using Dial
up networking. I saw this should be possible. You can install 'serial cable'
as your modem. When I tried this, no contact could be made between the
machines. Am I forgetting something, or is this simply not possible. I'd
like to use the windows NT machine for webserver and make an intranet this
way.


Bas Pruijn
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Comments: cc: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU

On 1998-02-03 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Hi. I'm sure I've spelt PCMIA wrongly but YKWIM...
It should be PCMCIA, but what the heck?

   >The 700cx (? 1000cx) version
   >of the hp200lx has a modem built-in, doesn't it?
The 1000cx doesn't. It is a 200 lx without the program-manager. The 700lx
(not cx) has a build in modem, but it only works with the nokia 2110 (or
compatible) cellular phone. Not with other phones or landline!

If you now have a 200lx (and maybe a cellular phone with data compatibility)
I think you'd better check for a PCMCIA modem wich will connect to you
phone. If you look well, you might find a modem with cellular, landline AND
ISDN. (Psion makes these; should not draw too much current, but I haven't
tried)

If you can find a occasion 700lx, take the change. But keep in mind: You can
*NEVER* fit an 700lx in you pocket! It is (almost) twice as thick as the
200lX.


Bas Pruijn
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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:41:40 EST
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              Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Memory Upgrade

Someone correctly pointed out to me that the memory upgrade is trivial
only if the connector is already installed, as was the case on my unit.
If not, I would again recommend that you let the experts do the install.

Several of you asked why I didn't use TC++ 1.0 - The reason is simple: I
don't have it and haven't enjoyed any success in trying to download from
the abandonware sites.

Thanks to all who replied.

Brian

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Greetings,

Last week a list member posted a WWW address for an "abandonware" site. The
list member stated that this site had MS-WORD v5 and v5.5 (DOS). However, I
only found the archive of v5 files. I wish to use v5.5 (for added RTF
functionality). Do any list members know of a place where I can find the more
"recent" version?

_don

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>
> Greetings,
>
> Last week a list member posted a WWW address for an "abandonware" site. The
> list member stated that this site had MS-WORD v5 and v5.5 (DOS). However, I
> only found the archive of v5 files. I wish to use v5.5 (for added RTF
> functionality). Do any list members know of a place where I can find the more
> "recent" version?
>
> _don

Take a look at my home page:

http://www.cs.unibo.it/~gaioni

you should found what you want in one of the abandonware sites listed.

Ciao!

>
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>    >Is anyone using E Meyer's zip transfer program from Windows NT? I
>    >just = tried it now and it failed with a generic <Error> whenever
>    >it tries to = communicate.

I have always used the HP connectivity pack, both on my Windows 95
computer at home and on my NT 4.0 system at work. I have never had
any problems. Are these alternate solutions you are discussing a
significant improvement on the HP program?

-Chris Lott


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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Donald J. Winiecki wrote:

> Last week a list member posted a WWW address for an "abandonware" site. The
> list member stated that this site had MS-WORD v5 and v5.5 (DOS). However, I
> only found the archive of v5 files. I wish to use v5.5 (for added RTF
> functionality). Do any list members know of a place where I can find the more
> "recent" version?

Have you tried http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn/

- Longden

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              Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>
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     From several sources, I think we can begin to narrow in on an answer:

     PC Week reported in May of last year the following figures from Dataquest
for 1996 sales of "standard hand-held computers":

o  over 700,000 units sold
o  PalmPilot led with 51% market share (357,000)
o  Hewlett Packard took 25% of the market (175,000)

     Since we know something of the estimated total, along with the fact that
Windows CE machines were only introduced in November, 1996, we should be able
to take a stab at the number of HP 200LX's (and immediate kin) sold that year.
Would 120,000 be a fair guess?  Too low? - probably.

     So if the market for WinCE really took off in 1997, when Windows Magazine
reported in December, 1997 that their best-estimate survey figured 200,000 to
300,000 WinCE machines had been sold since their introduction (maybe almost 10
months - taking into account the magazine's lead time) then Carl Merkle's
statement about HP's Comdex press conference report that they had 2.5 times
the previous year's sales for the handhelds might lead us to some remarkable
conclusions.

     Either HP's share of the WinCE market was really large (in a field of
probably eight major offerings ÝPhillips, HP, Sharp, NEC, Hitachi, LG
Electronics , Compaq, Casio¨)

            *or*

     The palmtops we all love had a tremendous year!

Alan

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I use VR 1.1 on my HP200.  Does anyone know of (or have) a larger font
than the ones that come with the software?  Thanks

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Rod Whitby wrote:

 >  I hope to include a complete set of utilities for
 > all those things you're used to doing under Unix (like ping, ftp,
 > telnet, etc.) - hopefully I can get the source code to these.

The BSD Unix variants are found under the following tree of links.  Follow
the application by name to its source, starting at:

http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/astaff/reference/4.3network/

There is an example of how to make some changes in the makefiles for DOS at:

http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/astaff/reference/4.3network/tn3270/tn3270/sys_
dos/

Good luck.
----=20

http://comports.com/hplx=A0=A0 <--old stuff is new...

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John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU> wrote:

> Do you get good use out of any RS rechargable? I used both the nicads
> and the nickel metal and found neither one will hold a charge very
> well.

Like I wrote before, the RS NiMH are very disappointing so far; about
5-6 hours of use per charge 8-(   The RS 850mAHr NiCads give me
between 8.5 and 11 hours, depending on serial port use and whether
there is a lot of writing to files. I use the 100LX for "palmtop
publishing" using EVP, and the heavy writing can eat up the batteries
faster...

-PR
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Hello again-

More thoughts on the subject of batteries.  John pointed out that it
would take 18 hours to charge 1200mAHr NiMH batteries from 0V in the
palmtop.  Of course we can't use them to full discharge.  In my palmtop
I get 5-6 hrs on the NiMH after about 8 hrs charging.  If they're
actually full after 8 hours (44% of a complete charge) then it would
seem that less than half their capacity is usable on the palmtops. =


Interestingly - the 850mAHr RS NiCads give me about 8-11 hours of use.=

Charging is usually about 8-9 hours.

The difference is probably due to the discharge curves of the two
types.  NiCads maintain between 1.2-1.25V per cell until almost empty,
then drop rapidly.  NiMH seem to discharge more gradually, so it's
possible thal they drop below a useable voltage (for the palmtop) long
before completely empty.  Also NiMH have a nominal rating of 1.2V
compared to 1.25 for NiCads, so they start out somewhat lower.

As someone pointed out, there's a lot of variation in batteries, even
in the same brand.  Also there is probably some variation in the HP's
internal A-D convertor.  This is probably no better than + or - one
bit, (24mV in the palmtop), so your batteries may peak at a quite
different voltage reading from mine.

-PR
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I again take this opportunity to suggest the Keytronics IR keyboards as
a possible "link" to the full-sized keyboard quest.  I assume all that
would be required would be a driver, no additional power sources, no
cables, no modifications (warrantee voiding stuff), and best of all, the
same keyboard for desktop and palmtop (the keytronic keyboards will talk
to as many as 4 systems with nothing but a keystroke to "switch" between
systems).  An additional incentive is that several different keyboards
(Keytronic) exist, some with trackball, some with touch pad, some in
black plastic, and so-on.

Phil

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The one I use is 'fpab0017'.  It's 'New York'ish, and about like standard
text - maybe 12 point, and very legible (in reasonable light).  I've
attached it.  Let me know if you have any problems.

At 09:38 AM 2/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I use VR 1.1 on my HP200.  Does anyone know of (or have) a larger font
>than the ones that come with the software?  Thanks
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DQACACAA4QAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwB/2H+YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAGAHQAeAAAAHQAeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAMAM+A/AfPgPwHzADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:26:56 -0500
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David Lawrence wrote:
>
> OK, so here's the deal, my latest project, i have looked at the
> Newton keyboard and it is well made and has a good feel to the
> key-presses, but it is no better than the LX when it comes to
> having no discreet Page-Up Page-Down keys and all the other ones
> so easily reached on a PC keyboard.
>
> i touch-type, so can do everything on a standars 102 without
> having to look, using RemKey, i can connect via cable to the back
> of a PC and use it's keyboard to input data nad run programs on
> the LX which is wonderful, but you are chained to a great,
> humming paper weight/wait.
>
> i want to break free!
>
> Well said Freddy Mercury...
>
> The reason the Newton keyboard works, is it has a simple serial
> interface, whereas the PC keyboard(at least those made after
> 1987!) is not serial and requires interfacing.
>
> www.hagstromelectronics.com specialises in keyboard interfaces
> and i have contacted them, they see no problems, especially if we
> work with the two programmers that did RemKey and the Newton
> tsr.
>
> Depending on the interest, they can either modify an existing
> unit, or build a custom one. We envisage a box about 1/2 the size
> of a match-box(hope everybody remembers those!) with a CR2030
> cell or maybe an AA cell, a female keyboard interface on one side
> and a 232 male interface on the other.
>
> This would allow you to carry a tiny box which would connect
> almost any PC keyboard to your LX, you could borrow one, or the
> other idea i had was an add-on for a standard $20.00 keyboard of
> a plate that attaches by spring clips and has a double-jointed
> fold around plate which the LX would snap into and a couple of
> swing out extensions to stabilise the keyboard on your legs, or
> they could stay swiveled in if using a table.
>
> i feel certain we could do it for less than or equal to the
> Newton keyboard price.
>
> Any and all feed-back appreciated.
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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I would be interested in a $20 interface that would work with any
keyboard. Like you said you could borrow one and wouldn't have to lug
things around. I also have a keyboard from a luggable which would be
perfect.

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 01:28:32 +0800
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Dear all,

I want to relate my experience with HP support in Malaysia (maybe =
someone from HP is also on this list)... This mail is pretty long but I =
have to voice my regretful experience with HP in case some poor soul in =
this country has the same predicament I'm in right now.

Incident #1
About a year ago, after using the 200LX for a year, I begin to explore =
the potential of using the cc:Mail feature of "Interactively connecting =
to my post office (my office uses cc:Mail). A call to the Malaysian HP =
support only waste phone bill for I'm told to call Singapore for there =
isn't any support for HP200LX. I did call Singapore (good thing my =
office pays the bill) and was on the line for more than half an hour =
(please remember that this is an international call) and finally, I gave =
up because the support guy on the line didn't understand 200LX feature =
of Interactive connecting to post office. (This is the second option =
when you go to connect menu). Eventually, someone on this list (the old =
one ran by Mitch Hamm) told me something about diff. version of VIM and =
I gave up using that feature.

Incident #2
When my 200LX warranty was about to expire, I wanted to purchase the =
extended warranty and found out (after 3 calls to 3 diff. persons in =
diff dept) that there is no such thing in Malaysia (you guys in States =
are so lucky).

Incident #3
Today, I made a call to HP (phone no. given by the dealer who sold the =
palmtop to me) and was directed to call another no. for they do not do =
support for palmtops. So, I call the no., put on hold, phone line got =
cut off because I was on hold for too long and on the second call, I =
managed to speak to a "palmtop support coordinator". My problem is that =
I damaged my screen (yeah, these kind of things happened, a perfectly =
working palmtop being murdered in my hands). I wanted to purchase a =
replacement screen (or for the matter, get it repaired by HP).=20

The coordinator was helpful in giving the prices to me after I gave her =
the part # (it's printed on the back of the LCD. The p/n starts with an =
F1xxx so I figured that would be a HP p/n.) After telling the prices for =
labour and giving me 2 p/n with 2 diff. prices, she found out that I a =
user and I'm directed to call an authorised part supplier (co is Gateway =
Avenue). Now, I know Gateway Avenue people and they only do laser =
printers. Anyway, didn't want to argue the the coordinator and I =
proceeded to call the part supplier. As expected, no such parts...

So now, I'm caught in a situation where I want to get my palmtop =
repaired (or replacement parts) and I'm directed to an HP parts supplier =
where he don't deal with palmtop parts.

ok, let's look a the options/conclusions:
1. Buy a new palmtop (the LCD would be costly anyway, maybe justifiable =
to just get a new one)
        The price of the 200LX-4Mb is more expensive than the 320LX. The 2Mb =
version is only USD15.00 cheaper the 320LX. Is this     HP's way of =
promoting the 320LX???
2. Given the bad support, should I get another 200LX and instead go for =
a Psion or something else? (I really love my 200LX...)
        I use the PIM extensively and internet/fax on the palmtop. The Psion 5 =
or even the 3c fits my needs 90%. At least, I have      backlight (that is =
the reason why I damage my screen in the first place, trying to install =
an EL panel ...) and integrated e-      mail/fax sw for the Psion 5. The 3c =
is also pretty good by the looks of it.
3. Send the palmtop to Thaddeus (USA) for repairs?
        I'd check their site and I have to pay US225.00 excluding shipping... =
not cheap but under the circumstances, it may be worth a        try.
4. Call HP again and this time, insist on getting the parts, maybe =
paying them a visit and explain the situation?
        Should I? Given the atitude of the support people I'd spoken to, they =
may insist that I deal with their authorised parts      supplier...) If only =
one person can think like someone from Fort Cornwallis.......
5.. Consider Palmpilot Pro..=20
        I friend "loan" his unit to me to use it as long as I want and buy if =
off him if I decide to keep it. (Incidentally, I was on the Pilot       5000 =
for a period of time and eventually sold my unit to him and I went back =
to the 200LX)

(Pardon the self ad here....)
Considering that I'm an sort of "evangelist" (that's what the mac =
advocates are called) for the 200LX, appeared on TV once to talk about =
the use of palmtops and PDAs, showing off my 200LX in front of the =
camera; personally convinced at least 5 persons to use the 200LX instead =
of some other palmtops/pdas; helped a number of users over the phone on =
the use of the 200LX PIM during office hours, etc. I reckon I have to =
rethink "other" palmtops instead of just HP... The thought of moving =
away from this list and the 200LX is going to be very painful indeed.

Thank you for your indulgence and please comment/suggest if any.

C P Wong
cpwong@tm.net.my

"HP200LX - Live Long and Prosper"

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Does anyone know if VB for dos is available anywhere either commercially
or as abandonware?

                                Brenda

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:57:52 -0500
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Subject:      Re: C++ 1.0

On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:41:40, Brian A McIlvaine

> Several of you asked why I didn't use TC++ 1.0 - The reason is simple: I
> don't have it and haven't enjoyed any success in trying to download from
> the abandonware sites.

Hi Brian and List Members,

I was successfull in downloading it. If you or anybody would like a
copy I can send it to you.



Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:30:46 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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A pox upon me! - I did not intend to send the font file to everyone on the
list.

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>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,

The above List embedded Reply-TO will get you every time.

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:17:45 -0500
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 09:38 AM 2/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I use VR 1.1 on my HP200.  Does anyone know of (or have) a larger font
>than the ones that come with the software?  Thanks
>
>
Check my website at http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html
for the LARGE VR Font.
Best Regards
Owen

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:28:40 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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Hello does anyone know the company name of the company in Japan doing the
32 mb ram upgrade?

John

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:18:51 -0500
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I am about to migrate a PIM database into my HPLX.  I was wondering if
anyone knows the field specs of the "vanilla" phone book ie field lengths
etc ,or keystrokes to give them to me so I can tailor my DB to fit..

Thanks in advance

Russell

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I have a file that showed up on my A: drive for some reason. It won't let
me view it or delete it. Everytime I mess with it I get a file not found.
The file's name is "select d riv". Does anyone know what I can do about it?
Is there anyway I can delete it or should I even be messing with it?
Thanks

John

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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:59:16 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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I found a place where I can get lithium rechargable AA cells. They're 21
dollars and 3 volt but I was wondering if they could be used in the
palmtop. I thought using one cell and some sort of adapter in the other
cells compartment would do it. Another thing. They recommend a 80ma
constant current recommended and 120ma maximum for the cell for recharging
and I was wondering if it could be charged in the palmtop. I looked at the
diagram they have for the recharger and the only differance is they add
temperature sensing resistors inbetween the battery and main charging
current and one other place I can't remember now. And they use a differant
method for sensing when it reaches a full charge. Do you think it would be
worth it? The cells are 850mah.

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On 1998-02-04 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I have a file that showed up on my A: drive for some reason. It
   >won't let me view it or delete it. Everytime I mess with it I get a
   >file not found. The file's name is "select d riv". Does anyone know
   >what I can do about it? Is there anyway I can delete it or should I
   >even be messing with it? Thanks
   >John

Sounds like you had a program go funny, or you named a file with
a space in it. Dos has conniptions with this, as you have found
out, you can't do anything in filer like delete it, and dropping
to dos will get you nowhere fast.

Try to get a copy of dos 6's deltree.exe

This SOMETIMES works with spaces, if not, you will have to get
norton disk edit or a simmilar program to get down-n-dirty at low
level and change the name to one dos can see and work with.

The fastest and easiest method, although a little like 5 steps
back and 6 steps forward, is to carefully backup all the other
files and reformat and then restore the files.

HTH

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
> A pox upon me! - I did not intend to send the font file to everyone on the
> list.

No problem here! I got it in a three second download, so it couldn't
have been big enough to matter that much!

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles


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 EXP ThinFax 33.6 PCMCIA modem


Is it working fine in a 200LX ?

or

I'm looking for a cheap 14K modem with Xjack

regars
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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I'm trying to find the DOS versions of this program (prior to v. 6, which I
have, but explicitly requires an 80286; my registered user nos. are 10496,
16355, and 16822.  It's a pretty serious statistics program that I USED to
have the diskettes for (like Windows, etc.).  I "cleaned house" a couple of
years ago, and I'm still kicking myself for some of the diskettes I threw
out.  It sort of makes you want to become a pack-rat.  Anyway, is there
anyone out there who can help me out?

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> > music notation representation ... the format of PCX...

> A whole slew of 2-d graphics file specs can be found at:
>   URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/2d-hi.html

I'm reading through the descriptions, and there is quite a bit of
detail in headers etc.  It is hard to tell which is the simplest
graphics representation for the lx - black and white, without compression
- without understanding this in all its detail.

I have now generated a test .PCX file that works; and I have routines
that will encode and decode the Run Length (RLE) compression scheme into a
bitmap so I can examine it. But I would (always) prefer a simpler one...:)


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Subject:      Re: PCX Format

On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:00:10 -0500 Automatic digest processor
<LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> writes:

>Date:    Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:50:43 -0800
>From:    Eric Wong <egwong@NETCOM.COM>
>Subject: Re: PCX format
>
>Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>> I've just had a funky idea for music notation representation on the
>lx.
>>
>> It would be using .PCX (I can convert to others with lxpic).
>>
>> Could someone point me to a description of the format of PCX?
>> Or even better, post an actual description?
>>
>
>Brendan,
>
>A whole slew of 2-d graphics file specs can be found at:
>  URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/2d-hi.html
>
>In particular, the PCX specification is
>  URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/2d/PCX.txt
>

Other sources are Graphics File Formats, 2nd ed., by David Kay & John
Levine, published by Windcrest/McGraw Hill in 1995, and File Formats by
Allen Taylor, published in 1992 (by ?) and both included on Dr. Dobbs
Essential Books on File Formats CD

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On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM> wrote:

ba> I got the 4Meg upgrade with the intention of using the EMM200 driver, =
but
ba> it did not work for me. When I ran MAKEEMS, I got a 1meg read only =
EMS
ba> file, but when I did a chkdsk on it, it was not contiguous blocks. =
Does
ba> anyone know what I am doing wrong?

You will need the Tremm ems manager since EMM200 will not work with a
4-megger. Try t2t's site - i understand that it is now sold
separately.

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On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:37:50 -0500, John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU> =
wrote:

mu> I have a file that showed up on my A: drive for some reason. It won't =
let
mu> me view it or delete it. Everytime I mess with it I get a file not =
found.
mu> The file's name is "select d riv". Does anyone know what I can do =
about it?
mu> Is there anyway I can delete it or should I even be messing with it?

John, i've seen this very thing happen before. Drop to dos and try
replacing the space with a question mark then deleting - like this:

ren select?d.riv remove.now
del remove.now

Should work...

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Ian Melville wrote:
>
> You will need the Tremm ems manager since EMM200 will not work with a
> 4-megger. Try t2t's site - i understand that it is now sold
> separately.

Actually it isn't sold separately anymore.  The upgrade must be purchased from
Times2 Tech to use the driver legally.
--
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> I'm looking for a cheap 14K modem with Xjack
>
> regars
> Al
> Wyn@alphalink.com.au
> Melbourne / Australia


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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:30:16 +1100
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OK, here is an example of music notation on the hplx. It is in gif
format - but lxpic will easily convert this to .pcx, if you like.

        http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren

SIZE
I would like your opinion - do you think this is too small on the
LX? I think it is definitely discernable; but a little hard on the eyes.


TIME TO DISPLAY
Note that when converted to .PCX, this big image is still relatively slow to
load in HV; oddly, it is much faster in LXPIC - perhaps LXPIC is
especially tailored for .PCX, whereas HV just supports it as a bonus?


BTW credit to MTx, MusixTeX, PMX and the lyric package; and TeX too.K

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Does anyone know the DOS trick of having a file named (something like)

        !perl.bat
or
        !ksh.bat

that in unix specifies the "shell" to run the program through? That is,
your perl (or ksh or sed whatever) script begins with this line.  In unix,
this somehow invokes the correct script processor.

In DOS, with a batch file, if it knew the file that called it, it could
strip off this first line of the batch file, and send the rest to the
correct script processor.

This would be convenient: you could treat your sed, awk, perl, ksh,
python script as batch files, and call them that way. Currently, I make
a separate batch file which invokes the correct interpreter on the
script - but this requires two files, hand linked.


Does anyone know how a batch file could discover the batch file that
invoked it? I expect it is saved somewhere, so that a return is possible...


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Subject:      Re: Does LapLink 95/NT work with (talk to) the HP-200LX? If not,
              what on NT does?
Comments: To: Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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At 05:20 PM 2/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
>The answer is either "obviously yes" or "obviously no"... but which is it?
>
>I bought LapLink 95/NT thinking the former... but the documentation seems
>(implicitly) to indicate the latter.
>
>If the latter... is there ANYTHING that will run on NT that will connect to
>the LapLink server on the 200LX?

The LapLink that comes with the 200LX connectivity pack works in Win95;
it might work in a DOS box under NT (but then again, perhaps not if NT
"protects" you from yourself)...   If I get a chance I'll try it...

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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At 06:13 PM 2/4/98 +1300, you wrote:
>Hi all, i am pleased to announce that i have had replys from 16
>of you in less than 12 hours!
>

Whether my posting prompted this (or not ... I'm easy), I'd buy the box...

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hi all

is someone kmow where I can find Visual Basic?

thanx
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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>Date:    Wed, 4 Feb 1998 09:38:38 -0500
>From:    "Steven R. Wisotsky" <swisotsk@DABURN.COM>
>Subject: Vertical Reader
>I use VR 1.1 on my HP200.  Does anyone know of (or have) a larger font
>than the ones that come with the software?  Thanks

I have one, created using PFE (the font editor) and making it look as bold and
large as possible. Can I email it to you via this email address?

jasonyap

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1) Perl:

We need to cheat DOS into believing that it is a batch file and Perl into=

beliving it is a Perl script, eg this grep implementation:

------ Cut here ----------------------------------------------
@rem=3D"
@perl %0.bat %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
@die " if 0 ; =


$arg =3D shift;
while (<>) {
  print if /$arg/o;
}
---- Cut here -------------------------------------------------

Perl will ignore the first three lines as the condition is never true.

DOS will execute every line. Since there is no hard EXIT from batch files=

and perl does not like DOS labels, I made a file called DIE.BAT that just=

contains '@echo off' to avoid DOS from printing a number of new-lines:
DOS will execute it and die afterwards since I am not calling DIE.BAT
with CALL.

Wierd but works.

2) AWK and SED scripts are a different matter. I cannot see any way one c=
an
cheat both DOS and AWK/SED. I just execute them with
  @awk -f abc.awk =

  @die
meaning that you cannot execute them as scripts, only as batch files.
However, that is anyway what you want to do.

Jorgen
  =

    =



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Hi,

I wounder how correct those figures are.... According to other sources
during 1997 about 500,000 Win CE palmtops was sold. Yes, HP is the leader
in Win CE so far.

Jorgen

At 09:13 AM 2/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>     From several sources, I think we can begin to narrow in on an answer:
>
>     PC Week reported in May of last year the following figures from
Dataquest
>for 1996 sales of "standard hand-held computers":
>
>o  over 700,000 units sold
>o  PalmPilot led with 51% market share (357,000)
>o  Hewlett Packard took 25% of the market (175,000)
>
>     Since we know something of the estimated total, along with the fact that
>Windows CE machines were only introduced in November, 1996, we should be able
>to take a stab at the number of HP 200LX's (and immediate kin) sold that
year.
>Would 120,000 be a fair guess?  Too low? - probably.
>
>     So if the market for WinCE really took off in 1997, when Windows
Magazine
>reported in December, 1997 that their best-estimate survey figured 200,000 to
>300,000 WinCE machines had been sold since their introduction (maybe
almost 10
>months - taking into account the magazine's lead time) then Carl Merkle's
>statement about HP's Comdex press conference report that they had 2.5 times
>the previous year's sales for the handhelds might lead us to some remarkable
>conclusions.
>
>     Either HP's share of the WinCE market was really large (in a field of
>probably eight major offerings ÝPhillips, HP, Sharp, NEC, Hitachi, LG
>Electronics , Compaq, Casio¨)
>
>            *or*
>
>     The palmtops we all love had a tremendous year!
>
>Alan
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:48:41 +1300
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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I had the nerves to move this file to some other place on my website. Sorry
folks. You now can find it at:

http://surf.to/pruijn/download/

HTH

Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn       mailto:pruijn@few.eur.nl

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:28:09 +0100
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Hello,

I have been testing PalEdit, the latest version 2.1.

I have been spending quite a lot of time to get my macros running again.
Firstly (in version 2.0) the macros used to be in the PE.CFG file, but
now they have to be exported to PE.MAC
For instance the second sample macro does not work anymore. The dup-l
thing. It outputs a lot of garbage. Did anybody succeed to repair this
macro? (The funny thing is when I enter the key-strokes by hand, the
thing works)

My second question is how to find the codes of the key-strokes.


Or how do I record a macro. It does not work like the pe.doc says.
When I press CTRL-X to start recording a macro, the ¬X displays, but
disappears right after the first key-stoke after that.
There is no way that I could replay or paste the macro.

Thanks for any help, Daniel

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Hello,

I have the Daily Reminder turned on, and copied the APPTS.INI from ROM
into the _DAT dir; and I get these handy random daily bottom lines, like
"When in doubt, try F1 HELP"

Actually I am getting quite fed up reading all that over and over again.
I wondered if anybody assembled a very creative APPTS.INI file with some
nice quotes or whatever.
I found the Datebase Repository on Super, is there an equivalent Appts
Repository?

Thanks, Daniel

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              "Steven R. Wisotsky" <swisotsk@DABURN.COM>
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Owen Samuelson wrote:

> At 09:38 AM 2/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >I use VR 1.1 on my HP200.  Does anyone know of (or have) a larger
> font
> >than the ones that come with the software?  Thanks
> >
> >
> Check my website at http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html
> for the LARGE VR Font.
> Best Regards
> Owen

Terrific--I can _read_ that, even without the reading glasses!

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 08:45:13 -0500
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AWK: Things are more complicated than I remembered.
This will work somehow except it will print "rem =3D"\". I cannot get rid=
 of
this. If you use ANSI.SYS, you can insert  Escape Ý2J  before the '\' to
clear the screen in which case you only see a \.

Note that there are a carrige return (ASCII 13) before the '\' in the @aw=
k
statement made with the numeric keypad while holding ALT down. This
prevents DOS from seeing the '\' (thinking it is an argument) while AWK
still can see it.

---- Cut Here --------------------------------------
rem =3D"\
@awk -f grep.bat pat=3D%1 %2 \
@die \
#"
$0 ~ pat { print }
---- Cut Here ----------------------------------------

Jorgen
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:54:23 -0600
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A stats buddy of mine suggested you check out MySTAT (shareware).
I located a source at:
http://www.bsoftware.com/a19c142p0.htm
The description calls it a statistical program from SYSTAT, so maybe it'll
do what you need.
Good luck!
-Eric

> ----------
> From:         Claud G. CameronÝSMTP:cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent:         Wednesday, February 04, 1998 7:49 PM
> Subject:      Systat
>
> I'm trying to find the DOS versions of this program (prior to v. 6, which
> I
> have, but explicitly requires an 80286; my registered user nos. are 10496,
> 16355, and 16822.  It's a pretty serious statistics program that I USED to
> have the diskettes for (like Windows, etc.).  I "cleaned house" a couple
> of
> years ago, and I'm still kicking myself for some of the diskettes I threw
> out.  It sort of makes you want to become a pack-rat.  Anyway, is there
> anyone out there who can help me out?
>

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While playing around with my HP200LX Palmtop I realised that the
PCMCIA slot is great for storing my own and others business cards ;-)
Anyone tried it? (Or is this old news?)

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:41:02 +1100
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 HP>+1300 On 1998-02-04 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.
 HP>>net.nz I have a file that showed up on my A: drive for some reason.
 HP>>It won't let me view it or delete it. Everytime I mess with it I
 HP>>get a file not found. The file's name is "select d riv". Does
 HP>>anyone know what I can do about it? Is there anyway I can delete
 HP>>it or should I even be messing with it? Thanks
 HP>>John
 HP>Sounds like you had a program go funny, or you named a file with
 HP>a space in it. Dos has conniptions with this, as you have found
 HP>out, you can't do anything in filer like delete it, and dropping
 HP>to dos will get you nowhere fast.
 HP>Try to get a copy of dos 6's deltree.exe
 HP>This SOMETIMES works with spaces, if not, you will have to get
 HP>norton disk edit or a simmilar program to get down-n-dirty at low
 HP>level and change the name to one dos can see and work with.
 HP> John, i've seen this very thing happen before. Drop to dos
 HP>and try replacing the space with a question mark then deleting -
 HP>like this: ren select?d.riv remove.now
 HP>del remove.now
Found this thread in the digest. I have found the same file twice on my
100LX and backed them up on my desktop because I did not know what kind of
weird use they had. I also found one such file in my windows directory and
one in a directory connected with Norton (Symantec). Today I looked into
them (renaming them with norton did the trick) and looked at its contents.
In three of these files the content was Nettamer@dekan.com the Email
address of the Nettamer list and in one case it was my own complete
Email address. Seems to have something to do with Nettamer and or
Norton (speeddisk perhaps?)

Using Norton solved the delete problem. The files are 20 or 22 bytes.
If somebody wants a look, I will be pleased  to Email the files.
Strange files.


Even the smallest buglet can grow into the biggest netmare.

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Beware bent pins.

>----------
>From:  Bxrge HagaÝSMTP:borgeh@NEXTEL.NO¨
>Sent:  Thursday, February 05, 1998 8:23 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Idea: Business card holder ;-)
>
>While playing around with my HP200LX Palmtop I realised that the
>PCMCIA slot is great for storing my own and others business cards ;-)
>Anyone tried it? (Or is this old news?)
>
>--
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>Fax + 47 22771910
>Internet: borgeh@nextel.no
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:08:10 +0200
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Hi all,

Do anybody knows, is it possible to upgrade my 100LX 1MB to 2MB or more?
And how much it costs for me?

Thanx.

 Alexander Stanovoy
  ph:+370-98-47300

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-----Original Message-----
From: Børge Haga <borgeh@NEXTEL.NO>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 10:39 PM
Subject: Idea: Business card holder ;-)


>While playing around with my HP200LX Palmtop I realised that the
>PCMCIA slot is great for storing my own and others business cards ;-)
>Anyone tried it? (Or is this old news?)


I tried it, but for some reason they didn't appear in the phone book.  I had
to keep taking them out to look at them.



David

:o)

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:04:28 -0800
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Alexander Stanovoy wrote:
>
> Do anybody knows, is it possible to upgrade my 100LX 1MB to 2MB or more?
> And how much it costs for me?

I don't think it can be done.  The 100LX motherboard is different from the
200LX in the memory-chip location.  There's no room for a memory upgrade
socket, and thus the plugin card cannot be used.

Theoretically it might be possible to upgrade by replacing the on-board chips,
but this would be a hideous undertaking.  It would be a lot easier (and
probably cheaper) to buy a 200LX motherboard and upgrade that.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:02:09 +0100
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David Mather wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bºrge Haga <borgeh@NEXTEL.NO>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 10:39 PM
> Subject: Idea: Business card holder ;-)
>
> >While playing around with my HP200LX Palmtop I realised that the
> >PCMCIA slot is great for storing my own and others business cards ;-)
> >Anyone tried it? (Or is this old news?)
>
> I tried it, but for some reason they didn't appear in the phone book.  I had
> to keep taking them out to look at them.

You must have an old version, because the business cards show up directly
in my phone book ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:27:24 -0500
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              Nedim <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
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I'm not very into statistics, but there's something I noticed lately. I was
watching auctions on eBay, and found out that people are often selling
their CE machines for half the price (machines that are new, or couple of
months old). Is it because of CE2.0, or that's some bigger trend? I don't
know. I see that there is a lot of hoopla around CE, but once you get it
you see that it's not what you thought it would be. I also know that, even
though CE is supposedly better "technology", "usefulness" factor is much
higher for 200LX. And also resale value.

Anyway, I know you're after numbers. Sorry.

Nedim.

At 11:21 PM 2/5/98 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I wounder how correct those figures are.... According to other sources
>during 1997 about 500,000 Win CE palmtops was sold. Yes, HP is the leader
>in Win CE so far.
>
>Jorgen
>
>At 09:13 AM 2/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>     From several sources, I think we can begin to narrow in on an answer:
>>
>>     PC Week reported in May of last year the following figures from
>Dataquest
>>for 1996 sales of "standard hand-held computers":
>>
>>o  over 700,000 units sold
>>o  PalmPilot led with 51% market share (357,000)
>>o  Hewlett Packard took 25% of the market (175,000)
>>
>>     Since we know something of the estimated total, along with the fact
that
>>Windows CE machines were only introduced in November, 1996, we should be
able
>>to take a stab at the number of HP 200LX's (and immediate kin) sold that
>year.
>>Would 120,000 be a fair guess?  Too low? - probably.
>>
>>     So if the market for WinCE really took off in 1997, when Windows
>Magazine
>>reported in December, 1997 that their best-estimate survey figured
200,000 to
>>300,000 WinCE machines had been sold since their introduction (maybe
>almost 10
>>months - taking into account the magazine's lead time) then Carl Merkle's
>>statement about HP's Comdex press conference report that they had 2.5 times
>>the previous year's sales for the handhelds might lead us to some remarkable
>>conclusions.
>>
>>     Either HP's share of the WinCE market was really large (in a field of
>>probably eight major offerings ÝPhillips, HP, Sharp, NEC, Hitachi, LG
>>Electronics , Compaq, Casio¨)
>>
>>            *or*
>>
>>     The palmtops we all love had a tremendous year!
>>
>>Alan

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So that's what that hole is for!!!

I tried putting my cards between screen and keyboard (and pressing hard),
but they wouldn't appear in the phone book!

Nedim.

At 04:02 PM 2/5/98 +0100, you wrote:
>David Mather wrote:
>> >While playing around with my HP200LX Palmtop I realised that the
>> >PCMCIA slot is great for storing my own and others business cards ;-)
>> >Anyone tried it? (Or is this old news?)
>>
>> I tried it, but for some reason they didn't appear in the phone book.  I
had
>> to keep taking them out to look at them.
>
>You must have an old version, because the business cards show up directly
>in my phone book ;-)

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     I am a maintenance technician. I have also maintained computer
     equipment for years. I have owned a 100lx, a 200lx and now a 320lx. I
     found the 100lx to be very handy. The original justification for
     getting the 100lx was to use as a console when needed for a wafer saw
     in a small production room. We didn't have room for another terminal.
     As time went on, the 100lx wore out and 200lx machines came out. By
     this time, our production area was outlawing paper and we could
     justify buying a 200lx as a daytimer replacement. The 200lx makes a
     rather nice cleanroom dayplanner. In addition, the database was
     excellent for containing spare part lists for the various machines we
     serviced. The 200lx lasts me about 2 years in the back pocket without
     a case. That is longer than a wallet lasts. My workstation has been
     upgraded to Windows NT 4.0. I decided to evaluate the 320 lx. With
     Windows CE 2.0 it does connect rather well with the workstation.
     Windows CE 1.0 was a nightmare as well as the conversion to Windows CE
     2.0. I find that I no longer use the palmtop as much as I used to. I
     use Schedule+ and sync with the palmtop. I find that the 320lx is
     slower to use. Having Excel is nice. I don't use it much. It is a
     bother to open and I am always having to scroll it. The stylus is a
     bother. I don't get the quick response that I expect. There are too
     many plastic covers to come off on the 320lx. I have not thrown out my
     200lx. I am waiting for a big/cheap memory upgrade for the 200lx. My
     Windows NT 4.0 workstation has both connectivity kits installed. Both
     work well. The secret is configuring the serial ports before rebooting
     after the connectivity software install.

     David M Peterson

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:29:06 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Large Fonts, was Vertical Reader (Large Font)
Comments: To: "Steven R. Wisotsky" <swisotsk@DABURN.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <34D9B981.7044F01@daburn.com>

->> Check my website at http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html
->> for the LARGE VR Font.
->> Best Regards
->> Owen

On the same train of thought, is there a way to enlarge the default font
on the 200 LX.  I use the various fonts that make it more readable and Fn
zoom, but is there a way to actually use a larger default font?  I suspect
not, but one never knows :-)

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:01:56 -0300
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Subject:      Idea: Business card holder ;-)

HP>While playing around with my HP200LX Palmtop I realised that the
HP>PCMCIA slot is great for storing my own and others business cards ;-)
HP>Anyone tried it? (Or is this old news?)

HP>--
HP>Børge Haga
HP>Telenor Nextel AS
HP>Tel + 47 22770378
HP>Fax + 47 22771910
HP>Internet: borgeh@nextel.no
HP>P.O.Box 393, Skøyen, 0212 Oslo, Norway
HP>Office:Drammensveien 167, Skøyen

   Great !!!   That cards are type 2 right ? :)


   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:10:55 -0500
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Drop to DOS, view the files attributes, they are probably Read Only and
Archived. Remove these two attributes and then just delete them with the
DEL command.

Alex Arancio
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-----Original Message-----
From:   David Lawrence ÝSMTP:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ¨
Sent:   Wednesday, February 04, 1998 5:12 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Unknown file under filer

On 1998-02-04 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I have a file that showed up on my A: drive for some reason. It
   >won't let me view it or delete it. Everytime I mess with it I get a
   >file not found. The file's name is "select d riv". Does anyone know
   >what I can do about it? Is there anyway I can delete it or should I
   >even be messing with it? Thanks
   >John

Sounds like you had a program go funny, or you named a file with
a space in it. Dos has conniptions with this, as you have found
out, you can't do anything in filer like delete it, and dropping
to dos will get you nowhere fast.

Try to get a copy of dos 6's deltree.exe

This SOMETIMES works with spaces, if not, you will have to get
norton disk edit or a simmilar program to get down-n-dirty at low
level and change the name to one dos can see and work with.

The fastest and easiest method, although a little like 5 steps
back and 6 steps forward, is to carefully backup all the other
files and reformat and then restore the files.

HTH

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Daniel,
I put together a few appts.ini files with quotes from motivational speakers
like Deepak Chopra and Steven Covey. I could probably dig up a backup copy
somewhere since I don't have them on my newly Expressed Exchanged system.
If interested, let me know.

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-----Original Message-----
From:   Daniel Kropveld, Amsterdam-NL ÝSMTP:D.KROPVELD@AMC.UVA.NL¨
Sent:   Thursday, February 05, 1998 7:56 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        daily greetings

Hello,

I have the Daily Reminder turned on, and copied the APPTS.INI from ROM
into the _DAT dir; and I get these handy random daily bottom lines, like
"When in doubt, try F1 HELP"

Actually I am getting quite fed up reading all that over and over again.
I wondered if anybody assembled a very creative APPTS.INI file with some
nice quotes or whatever.
I found the Datebase Repository on Super, is there an equivalent Appts
Repository?

Thanks, Daniel

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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I made the mistake of optimizing my c: drive, with Norton speedisk.exe,
which screwed up my emm200.dat file.  I could not get makems that comes
with emm200 to overwrite the file, for similar reasons.  I used Norton
Commander from Jeff's ftp://ftp.scott.net/users/pub/jeffj/ and it didn't
even hesitate to delete it.  Maybe it would work here?

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:16:19 +0100
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On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> AWK: Things are more complicated than I remembered.
> This will work somehow except it will print "rem ="\". I cannot get rid of
> this. If you use ANSI.SYS, you can insert  Escape Ý2J  before the '\' to
> clear the screen in which case you only see a \.

You probably can't. DOS needs a line that begins with @ and Awk won't
allow it...
However, you could replace rem =  with cls =, which would clear the screen
completely and without the need for ANSI.SYS

> Note that there are a carrige return (ASCII 13) before the '\' in the @awk
> statement made with the numeric keypad while holding ALT down. This
> prevents DOS from seeing the '\' (thinking it is an argument) while AWK
> still can see it.
>
> ---- Cut Here --------------------------------------
> rem ="\
> @awk -f grep.bat pat=%1 %2 \
> @die \
> #"
> $0 ~ pat { print }
> ---- Cut Here ----------------------------------------

Slightly smaller would be:

rem ="\
@awk -f grep.bat pat=%1 %2 \13 @die "
Ý...¨

Where \13 is ascii-13

Actually, ascii-13 tells DOS to execute what it has read so far and then
continue - it is the same as pressing enter.


Anyway, this is probably the best method without external programs.

4DOS has a feature that is very similar to this, as has probably the Korn?
shell downloadable from Simtel and Garbo.

Regards,

Laust
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On Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:00:14 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>there is a lot of writing to files. I use the 100LX for "palmtop
>publishing" using EVP, and the heavy writing can eat up the batteries
>faster...
What is this EVP?
... Windows Multitask! Formats C: and locks the keyboard at the same time!

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Okay, I found a solution somewhat different from Jorgen's and while it
also has its disadvantages it is interesting(!) nevertheless.

Step 1:

Create a batch file called #!.bat that has one line:
@%0 %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 (...etc as many as you want up to %127)

Then include the following line (or a similar one) in the beginning of
your script:

#! mawk -f %0.bat %1 %2 %3 %4 (etc..)

Then you can execute the script as a batch-file. I think this works in Sed
and Perl and others as well. It should work in any language that uses # as
a comment.

Unfortunately, this method has several drawbacks: if you try to execute
'script.bat' it will try to run 'script.bat.bat' and naturally fail. It
will also mess up command line switches sometimes - if you wanted to set a
variable on the command line, '-v hack=1' will no longer do; you'll have
to do "-v hack=1"  instead (quotation marks _included_). Also, it makes
certain assumtions as to the order of the arguments.

For this kind of behaviour to be handled properly it will have to be
handled by the shell, although a "real" program called #! (as opposed to a
batch file) would be able to handle the command line better.



Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:30:18 -0500
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              Carl Merkle <73564.2461@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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<<Hello does anyone know the company name of the company in Japan doing t=
he
32 mb ram upgrade?>>

I can't say much, but if you can wait a little, I strongly suspect they
will be sold in the US in the first half of this year.

     Best,
     Carl Merkle

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On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I made the mistake of optimizing my c: drive, with Norton speedisk.exe,
> which screwed up my emm200.dat file.  I could not get makems that comes
> with emm200 to overwrite the file, for similar reasons.  I used Norton
> Commander from Jeff's ftp://ftp.scott.net/users/pub/jeffj/ and it didn't
> even hesitate to delete it.  Maybe it would work here?
>

Norton Commander (and other file managers) generally work better because
they work on a lower level? - if you used command line you'd have to (or
rather the computer'd have to) deal with MS-DOS' command line parsing and
filename expansion first.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:50:21 -0500
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              mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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Does anyone know what the 32MB upgrade costs in Japan?

Thanks,
Michael
_____________4:48:33 PM EST, 2/5/98_____________

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:26:13 -0500
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Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg> wrote:

> What is this EVP?

EVP is EnVision Publisher.  It's a very nice desktop publishing
program for DOS that works well, but slowly, on the 100LX.  Should be
a lot faster on the dbl-speed 8 Meg 200LX.  (But I don't have one
yet...).  You can find the shareware version on SimTel sites, in the
/msdos/deskpub subdirectory.  It is a BIG program - the zip file is
about 700K, and it wants 2+ MB to install.  The shareware version
comes with 4 fully scaleable fonts, and is NOT crippleware, although
you get more functions in either of the 2 registered versions.  Also=
 a
lot more fonts (20 in the lower priced edition, 35 in the expensive
one). The expensive version also has a utility that converts either
truetype or postscript fonts to use with EVP.

-PR
------------

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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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I have used the width parameter of the Smart Clip for the
database to set my columnar report. It does not seem to work.

Has anyone out there ever used it ?

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Got mine yesterday. ok more like it. good job guys min ce junk tx roy

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:45:46 -0500
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>Create a batch file called #!.bat that has one line:
>@%0 %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 (...etc as many as you want up to %127)
>
>Then include the following line (or a similar one) in the beginning of
>your script:
>
>#! mawk -f %0.bat %1 %2 %3 %4 (etc..)
>
>Then you can execute the script as a batch-file.

Really??? That was among the many things I tried, but it does not work
under DOS 7 booted to MS-DOS. It just keeps calling itself for some
reason. I have #!.BAT in another directory.

Which version of MS-DOS allow this?


A DOS macro is sufficient to executing a script, eg
  doskey a=3Dc:\bin\awk -f $*
which will allow invocation with
  a xe2.awk datafilename


I love the
  cls =3D"\

Well spotted!

Jorgen
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:49:34 -0800
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Hi,

        Has any one done any speed and power consumption tests on the Pretech
128 meg flash card?  The 128 meg card is $945, 64 meg for $499.  A 256
meg card is due in Nov.

Colin

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:03:11 -0700
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              HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
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     Hi!
     Got mine a week ago and no complaints.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Subject: Re: palmtop paper
Author:  Non-HP-Agentrapid (Agentrapid@AOL.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    2/5/98 3:59 PM


Got mine yesterday. ok more like it. good job guys min ce junk tx roy

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:59:35 -0800
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On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Colin Thompson wrote:

>         Has any one done any speed and power consumption tests on the Pretech
> 128 meg flash card?  The 128 meg card is $945, 64 meg for $499.  A 256
> meg card is due in Nov.

Haven't tried the 128MB card, but I have tried the 64MB card.  I wouldn't
take it if they paid me.  As is, I'm stuck with a 32MB card that performs
horribly.  I believe the 128MB card will do the same.  Personally, I'd go
for the Simple Tech 64MB card if I wanted a good, large card.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 02:33:51 +0100
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On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> >Create a batch file called #!.bat that has one line:
> >@%0 %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 (...etc as many as you want up to %127)

Whoops! This is wrong, please read below.

> >#! mawk -f %0.bat %1 %2 %3 %4 (etc..)
> >
> >Then you can execute the script as a batch-file.
>
> Really??? That was among the many things I tried, but it does not work
> under DOS 7 booted to MS-DOS. It just keeps calling itself for some
> reason. I have #!.BAT in another directory.

It loops because %0 is included on the commandline in #!. %0 is the name
of the original batch-file and thus they will call each other until DOS
runs out of stack space or whatever you get tired and reset the computer
:-). It must have slipped while I was typing.

Change #!.bat to

@%1 %2 %3 %4 ... and it should be just fine.

> Which version of MS-DOS allow this?
This was under DOS 7.0 (Win95)
(actually I haven't tested it on the palmtop yet (ahem...) :-)

> I love the
>   cls ="\
>
> Well spotted!

As was the original hack. I would have thought that Awk would object to
commands placed before the BEGIN statement, but this doesn't seem to be
the case.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:44:08 -0800
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Hi, I'm looking to buy a 200lx with at least 2 meg RAM. Need all the
cables etc and prefer to have the manuals etc etc. Let me know what you
have and what condition its in etc ( MUST be fully functional !!)

Thanks
Brian

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:36:29 -0500
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I have a 12MB Pretec card - Sloooowwwwwwww.....

--- On Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:59:35 -0800  David Sargeant <istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM>
wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Colin Thompson wrote:
>
>>         Has any one done any speed and power consumption tests on the Pretech
>> 128 meg flash card?  The 128 meg card is $945, 64 meg for $499.  A 256
>> meg card is due in Nov.
>
>Haven't tried the 128MB card, but I have tried the 64MB card.  I wouldn't
>take it if they paid me.  As is, I'm stuck with a 32MB card that performs
>horribly.  I believe the 128MB card will do the same.  Personally, I'd go
>for the Simple Tech 64MB card if I wanted a good, large card.


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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:46:05 -0800
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Hi,

        Ok, the Pretech cards are big and stink.  Thanks for the help.

Colin

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:18:36 -0500
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I am surprised by the 3V raing on a 'single' cell which is ?the same size
as an AA.  However, the other problem is that it is only rated at
850mAh.   While this is a bit above the 'generic' NiCD AA, you use TWO
NiCd AA's giving a total of about 1400mAh...

Now, I have suggested, without serious reply from the list, that someone
try stuffing in a pair of Varta "4/5A" size batteries.  These guys are 5mm
shorter than AA's (no problem) and 3mm larger in diameter.

***These puppies are 2100mAh EACH!
***That's like using SIX standard NiCd AA's.
I think they may even come in NiMH format as well as the NiCd I am
referring to (I got a brochure from the Varta website then lost it, blast!).
All it would require is a bit of plastic shaving and two brass spacers;
after installing my own 2x upgrade, I know there's enough room for them
inside.
If only I weren't a med student... I'd have time for such endavors!

     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:52:39 +1100
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This sequence of entwined and ever-improving solutions is a good example
of how two heads are better than one!

> #!.bat
>
> @%1 %2 %3 %4 ... and it should be just fine.

> ...As was the original hack...

Pity that there doesn't appear to be a non-hack solution (notwithstanding
the sig below). Though I suspect that the original unix method is
itself a hack...


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 The more steeped in the art of programming, the more valued the direct hack

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:54:25 -0500
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> > Has any one done any speed and power consumption tests on the Pretech
> > 128 meg flash card?  The 128 meg card is $945, 64 meg for $499.  A 256
> > meg card is due in Nov.
> >

> > Haven't tried the 128MB card, but I have tried the 64MB card.  I
> > wouldn't take it if they paid me.

Gee, *I* would take it if they paid me!

I'd sell it to some unsuspecting WinCE or Win95 sucker, and take the money
and get a good card....

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HP>Gee, *I* would take it if they paid me!

HP>I'd sell it to some unsuspecting WinCE or Win95 sucker, and take the money
HP>and get a good card....

HP> Jim Saklad                                      mailto:jimdoc@iname.com
HP>       For PGP public key, finger jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu



    I've a brand new 40Mb Simple Tech. card, the card is great, almost
indestructible, there are problems, below 2.38, or 2.40 V, like drive
not ready, and that stuff, but the card, is quite fast !

About 2 times faster than my EXP 8 Mb !


Martin
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:18:49 -0800
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Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> Gee, *I* would take it if they paid me!
> I'd sell it to some unsuspecting WinCE or Win95 sucker, and take the money
> and get a good card....

Okay, okay, I'd take it if they paid me.  But you're right; the only way it
could be used effectively in a palmtop would be in a WinCE machine.  The big,
slow GUI would mask the slowness of the card.  :-)

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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:29:50 -0600
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>The LapLink that comes with the 200LX connectivity pack works in Win95;
>it might work in a DOS box under NT (but then again, perhaps not if NT
>"protects" you from yourself)...   If I get a chance I'll try it...

        I had no luck trying to use the connectivity pack under NT (which I use at
work. I also could not get Zip to work reliably. There is some software on
the H.P. web site that works under Windows 3.1 & '95, but I have not yet
tested it under NT. I have even had problems with W32filer (a 32-bit
character mode app from the S.U.P.E.R. site or somewhere). I've had pretty
decent luck with LapLink v4.0c. I think that LapLink (v4.0c that I use) and
Zip are the only apps that transfer files with their attributes and
timestamps intact. The other two set the archive attribute and create files
with the transfer time as the creation time (under Windows '95 anyway).

        I really wish that I could find something that would link up with the
server software that I could run interactively from a batch file like you
can Zip or the connectivity pack software. I haven't seen anything like
that, and doubt that that exists, or that there is enough interest from the
powers that could do it to create such a thing. This lack of connectivity
software and the lack of updates to the Quicken synching software (has this
changed? I haven't been paying much attention recently) make me feel like
my 200LX is an orphaned product (but I still love it). Wish I could supply
better news.

Dave

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All,

        I seriously doub't that the WinCE crap would mask the slowness of the
Preteck card.  Unless this is a humorous statment, the cumulitave time
involved would be seriously depressing, not just masking.
        My old Osborne 128k CPM machine was almost as fast as my one meg Mac
Plus (1986).  Upgraded to 4 megs, my Mac Plus was still faster than my
486sx 25 mhz.  I had three faster Macs in between the stinking 486sx.
The Mac Plus still survives in storage.  The Macs are history as I am
stuck in a pentium world now.  This is not to insite a platform war,
only to illustrate that for most a intelligent thinkers, simple is
better.  The DOS based (I hate DOS, but it is simple and it works!)  The
95/100/200LX is a pocket dream come true.  I'm currently on my third HP
palmtop since 93.  Complex crap is just extra crap in you pocket.
        Preaching?  Nah!!  Just the facts.  Simple Tech or Bernie Torbik's
Viking cards in the works.

Colin

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Jim Saklad wrote:
> >
> > Gee, *I* would take it if they paid me!
> > I'd sell it to some unsuspecting WinCE or Win95 sucker, and take the money
> > and get a good card....
>
> Okay, okay, I'd take it if they paid me.  But you're right; the only way it
> could be used effectively in a palmtop would be in a WinCE machine.  The big,
> slow GUI would mask the slowness of the card.  :-)

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Am new to the group, and even newer to the capabilities of my 200LX. I
just got the unit, ( from the WIZ closeout sale ) and already am looking
to expand its abilities. I am looking for the serial cable ( or
connectivity kit ) and a modest size memory card. Since cost is a
factor, I feel that used may be the way to go, and perhaps someone has
done an upgrade to a larger memory card and therefore has a smaller one
for sale. At any rate, if anyone has any of the items, I would be
interested.

TIA

Ron

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Hi Jens

Thanks for your inputs into how to make EVA files, but my pronblem is that I cannot get hold of the Windows 1.1 VIDEDIT file that you mention. Do you know where I can or do you have a copy for me. I would be pleased if you can help. I have some Avi files that I would like to convert.

Thanks


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SOUTH AFRICA

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 00:34:24 -0800
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Peniel:

> Like I wrote before, the RS NiMH are very disappointing so far; about
> 5-6 hours of use per charge 8-(   The RS 850mAHr NiCads give me
> between 8.5 and 11 hours, depending on serial port use and whether
> there is a lot of writing to files. I use the 100LX for "palmtop
> publishing" using EVP, and the heavy writing can eat up the batteries
> faster...

Try increasing the stop voltage to 2.9v and the stall to about
3 hours. This will tend to try to put more "juice" into the
batteries. A lot of the usage time results depends on what you
do. If you write a lot to disk it will use more current. Modem
sessions without adapter are also notorious. Lastly, it is
possible that somehow you defeated the light sleep in the
palmtop and it runs at full cycles all the time.

The advice for the latter condition from one of the support
people in HPHAND on Compuserve: Backup EVERYTHING, incl.
hidden files on the C: drive (use attrib -s -h *.* in the C:\,
in the C:\dat dirs before backup). Then do a cold boot
Left-Shift, CTRL On. Reply with NO to reformat your C: drive.
This _sometimes_ do the trick. Also you can use a program
called timeout by Thomas Rundel.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 00:33:59 -0800
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David:

> Where can I get a copy of ABC/LX?

Shier Systems 1888 371 9391 for orders only. I delivered a
bunch of product to them on Tuesday Feb 3.

Avi ÝD&A¨

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Subject:      Re: Sales 95...200LX vs 300...620LX?
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Jorgen:

> I wounder how correct those figures are.... According to other sources
> during 1997 about 500,000 Win CE palmtops was sold. Yes, HP is the =
leader
> in Win CE so far.
>
> Jorgen

Are you still an employee of HP in Singapore?

Avi ÝD&A¨

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Brendan:

> I'll check it - a very sweet piece of work. But tags seems to be
> evolving at an excessive pace at the moment - hard to keep up, and =
there
> may be no point until the dust has settled.

Right. HV supports HTML 3.2. It also supports other things
like frames, but the WAY it supports it is not what most
people are used to from Netscape or MSIE.

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John Musielewicz <musi0009@tc.umn.edu> wrote on Thu Feb 05
1998:

> D&A Software
>
> I ordered a copy,of ABC/LX from Shier Software as I was
> using the demo and I knew it would run out. They have been
> unable to ship me a copy because they say they don't have
> them in stock. My demo has just run out and I don't have

They do now. I delivered product to them on Tuesday Feb. 3,
1998 in a torrential rain :-)...

Avi ÝD&A¨

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Longden:

Thanks for writing about ABC/LX.

> You can download a demo version that's good for several weeks/months
> before it cripples itself...so you can see if it's worth your money.

Not exactly. We have a notion in the product of "User time".
This is time accumulating when the user presses a key on the
keyboard. If we detect a kepress, we accumulate that minute.
If you read the screen for three minutes, user time does not
advance.

The demo will run for 30 hours of "user time", then disable
itself. Reloading the demo TSR will not work.

The product is available from our Dealers.

Avi ÝD&A¨

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Claud:

> Is there a way to attach/detach files with Post/LX?  I must
> admit, I have not thoroughly searched the manual, but I've
> scanned it pretty well.  Have I missed something?

No. This version does not have the attach. Need to send it as
a second email.

> Also, how do you "quote" a message in a reply?

If you use PE as editor, press F7, it opens the second file
which is the original message. You can then copy what you need
using select and clip and paste.

> One last thing:  in HV.CFG, there is a line beginning with
> 'mailto', which mentions paledit.  Since e-mail support is

In older PE versions we had a rudimentary mail built in.

> removed from v2.1 of paledit, should this line now begin with
> ";", or should it refer to Post.exe?

Any line in .CFG that begins with ; is a pure comment and
ignored by the program. To make it active, remove the ;.

Avi ÝD&A¨

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John:

I must react to two of your points!

> emailed A. Garzotto about three times and haven't gotten a response
> he doesn't seem to care about supporting it or whether it works for
> me or not. At the price he should have a 24 hour 800 line! Take care.

1. Emailing to him at his PRIVATE address is inappropriate.
Use support@dasoft.com. I know you have, because I got a lot
of email from you, much of of it is repetitive. You MUST be
aware that it takes _some_ time to read messages, and that
time is taken AWAY from replying to your message, and other
people's messages. So much for bombarding EVERYONE in sight
with email if you do not get INSTANTANEOUS response.

Second point: The 24 hour 800 number is a ridiculous notion.
Shier sold WWW/LX to you for $109. I am sure you MUST be
aware that they have expenses, such as office staff,
telephone, rent etc. You MUST be aware too (I hope) that they
also BUY this from D&A - right? The software does not grow on
trees! You MUST also be aware that D&A has expenses to deal
with, right? We print manuals, diskettes, the time to prepare
the packages, and on and on. By the time everyone counts
their expenses (which you do not obviously!) the profit
margin is tiny. I won't post it because it is really no one's
business but D&A's, but it is VERY small. An 800 number would
take us out of business in about 1-2 months! Then you'll have
ZERO support, ZERO product, and you can kiss that 200LX baby
goodbye and go spend hundreds of dollars on a WinCE or a
Toshiba..

BTW, if I sound testy - you bet I am. I perceive my customers
as an extended family, since they are interested in something
I am, they want to preserve something that is also important
to me (the 200LX palmtop platform).

To pass a judgement on what is appropriate for us to do
commercially without any information about it is at best
ridiculous, and mostly irritating. I know Andreas and I have
been EXTREMELY forthcoming with support and help. He has been
bombarded by really dumb email aside from support. Most emails
are sent repeatedly. We use our palmtops and it clogs our
machines to the point of despair. Andreas no longer gives out
his email address, and posts through someone else! I have
sometimes as many as 40 emails per day in my private box -
half of them are repeats!

We are both reasonably bright fellows who can do other things
for much more profit (Andreas, shut up! :-) ...) but we like
the community of palmtoppers and these great pieces of
engineering.

Just for fun I calculated what the price level would have to
be to provide 24 hours 800 support for WWW/LX. You thought
you paid a high price. Well, to support you as you want would
mean approximately $500 per package. That does not even take
into account that FEWER sales will be made at that price
level. Sure, I'd consider a premium support arrangement: $60
per hour, 30 minutes minimum - but that is surely not going to
be acceptable to you either.

Now, I know the maxim "Never argue with the customer." I
violated this in public, too. But I tell ya, I just can't
imagine where you think we live, or what prodigious profits we
make - sheesh!

I'll be glad to continue supporting you and any other customer
of D&A Software, Inc. as we have always done.

 Avi Meshar
 President, CEO
 D&A Software, Inc.

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The 32mb 200LX will be offered in the US. The japanese upgrade
is also considered a "strategic export" by MITI and may not be
exported without lots of hassle from Japan.

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Jeff:

> my ABC/LX does set the maximum voltage to 2.81 but since it stops
> charging as soon as it reaches this voltage it doesn't seem to charge =
the
> batteries fully. I have noticed that with the NiMH batteries they will
> stall for 3-5 hours and then take some more "juice" and increase their
> voltage up to about 2.83 volts. I guess I'm just wondering if it would =
be
> safe to either increase the maximum voltage, the stall time or both?

Run autotune again. Are you using the CD-Rom version from Thaddeus? It =
has
bugs being a beta version. It sounds like you have no manual. Get the =
real
product! Available from Shier!

Avi ÝD&A Software, Inc.¨

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Brenda,

> > I want to get an 8MB EXP fax/data/memory card for my HP200lx.  Any
> > suggestions as to the least expensive place to acquire one?
> In general:
>         http://www.pdapage.com/

Also this page gives you ZERO information where you CAN find
informative help. Maybe Shier's price is $20 more, but if you
run into troubles, Shier CAN help you, while discounters
stonewall you.

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Does anyone have any tips for setting up the 200LX as a console
terminal?
I've tried using DataComm and the HP serial cable used to transfer data
between the LX and the PC.
Settings I've used are 9600baud, COM1, 8N1, VT100. No joy. Am I missing
something obvious?

Incidentally, keep up the lively list guys (and girls). I've been
lurking here for six months and have enjoyed it immensely .

Regards,
Keith
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                    Team 200lx  |                      - Clive James
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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 06:21:24 -0500
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Does anyone know where a person can get a floppy disk drive
that will work through the serial port on the LX?

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So far I got three replies of people who sent me their self made
APPTS.INI files. That should get me going for many months :)))
Thanks all...

Perhaps someone could collect all network-wide APPTS.INI files and put
them on super...

Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld

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I still am having problems with running the old macros with the new PE.
Still hoping for help...

I installed another new copy of PalEdit on my laptop (486, bwLCD), and
tried to run it with PALRUN or INT5F. Right after the start, my screen
fills up with what I think look like graphical chars. Then I can only
reset my system.

Does anybody else have this, and is there any fix for that?


(BTW I have a 1.7Mbyte dutch spelling list for PalEdit ('Groene Boekje'))

Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld

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On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Ron Schuck wrote:

> Am new to the group, and even newer to the capabilities of my 200LX. I
> just got the unit, ( from the WIZ closeout sale ) and already am looking
> to expand its abilities. I am looking for the serial cable ( or
> connectivity kit ) and a modest size memory card. Since cost is a
> factor, I feel that used may be the way to go, and perhaps someone has
> done an upgrade to a larger memory card and therefore has a smaller one
> for sale. At any rate, if anyone has any of the items, I would be
> interested.

Ron, how much are they closing them out for at the Wiz...and do they have
any left?

I have an older 5mb HP flash memory card I no longer use. If you're
interested, email me privately.

- Longden

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Ive been sick the past couple of days, and thus had time to catch up on the list.
Everyone is talking about the new <Insert large number>meg flash cards, but no one
has said a word about the iomega click. Its a pcmcia device that acts like flash
memory, but it uses cartrages instead of ram chips. Its still in devel, but it might
cure the memory problem. Also, the laplink problem has yet another solution, dont
use it. On the lx side, type "copy comX: filename.???" and on the pc side type "copy
filename.??? comX:". Of course replace filename.??? and X with the aproprate info.
This is an old tandy model 100 trick, e-mail me if it works.

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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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> >The LapLink that comes with the 200LX connectivity pack works in Win95;
> >it might work in a DOS box under NT (but then again, perhaps not if NT
> >"protects" you from yourself)...   If I get a chance I'll try it...
>
>         I had no luck trying to use the connectivity pack under NT (which I use at

Dave:

I've been using Connectivity Pack successfully on my NT 4.0 machine
here at work for over 6 months now. No problems. Admittedly,  I can't
invoke it in a batch mode from the command line, but it serves my
purposes quite well. Please note that I'm using FILER to transfer
files, NOT Laplink. But this is how I've always transferred files
since I bought my first 95LX over four years ago, so I'm used to it
by now. You can just start APP200 from a DOS box. If you create an
icon to run it automatically, you have to use NT's FORCEDOS command.
Good luck, and let me know if you have any questions about getting it
running.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 05:49:27 -0800
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My findings have been that with Windows NT, the only option is to use
Transfile (link found on the SUPER home page.)

W32filer, Laplink for DOS (the version on the HP200LX),
Zip (file transfer program), and other DOS level programs that I have
tried all have not worked... I believe Windows NT pretty much secludes
the hardware in its environment, and DOS apps are not able to bypass
this. This has been my experience, anyway... if anyone has had
differing results, please share.

I would like to see a Windows Laplink that works with the DOS laplink
on the HP... I loved it when my Windows for Workgroups 3.11 machine
had laplink for DOS running, and I could see my HP's drives in file
manager. SO easy to transfer files back and forth.

Transfile is OK, but sometimes it times out when transfering files,
and the CPU usage is 100% during the live connection. You also cannot
do drag-and-drop from/to outside of the programs window (ie. drag from
the desktop to the HP's drive.)

Transfile has been the best solution so far, though, in my opinion.

My best solution, though, would be to have, for instance, drive F:,
G:, and H: on my Windows NT machine to map directly to drives A:, B:,
and C: on my HP.




---David Cyrus <DCyrus@LINKNET.NET> wrote:
>
> >The LapLink that comes with the 200LX connectivity pack works in
Win95;
> >it might work in a DOS box under NT (but then again, perhaps not if
NT
> >"protects" you from yourself)...   If I get a chance I'll try it...
>
>         I had no luck trying to use the connectivity pack under NT
(which I use at
> work. I also could not get Zip to work reliably. There is some
software on
> the H.P. web site that works under Windows 3.1 & '95, but I have not
yet
> tested it under NT. I have even had problems with W32filer (a 32-bit
> character mode app from the S.U.P.E.R. site or somewhere). I've had
pretty
> decent luck with LapLink v4.0c. I think that LapLink (v4.0c that I
use) and
> Zip are the only apps that transfer files with their attributes and
> timestamps intact. The other two set the archive attribute and
create files
> with the transfer time as the creation time (under Windows '95
anyway).
>

Ýsnip¨

Mark J. Jordan
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On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> The 32mb 200LX will be offered in the US. The japanese upgrade
> is also considered a "strategic export" by MITI and may not be
> exported without lots of hassle from Japan.

Interesting. I wonder what all that on-board ram does to battery life and
bootup times?

Too bad we can't do more for the processor tho...that feels like the real
bottle-neck. 2spd helps.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 08:06:37 -0600
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Such concern over a machine based on a "dead" OS.  :)

Please, no OS war... ok?

Phil

>----------
>From:  A. MesharÝSMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
>Sent:  Friday, February 06, 1998 2:34 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: 32 meg upgrade
>
>The 32mb 200LX will be offered in the US. The japanese upgrade
>is also considered a "strategic export" by MITI and may not be
>exported without lots of hassle from Japan.
>

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: NiMH & ABC/LX
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On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > Like I wrote before, the RS NiMH are very disappointing so far; about
> > 5-6 hours of use per charge 8-(
>
> Try increasing the stop voltage to 2.9v and the stall to about
> 3 hours. This will tend to try to put more "juice" into the
> batteries.

Avi. I have the RS 1200mAh NiMH's also. ABC/LX hasn't taken them over
2.81v in several weeks use (including several auto-tune sessions), so
AFAIK, I'm pumping the maximum "juice" that they'll handle....and still
get mediocre performance out of them.  I think the batteries are just
well...lacking.

If you've had better experience with these batteries, that may make yours
the exception.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:02:47 -0500
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              Mick Davis <twitty.davis@PAONLINE.COM>
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Subject:      LXBatch and adding decimals

I have just downloaded and am testing out LXBatch.  It appears that the
addition capability of the calc command does not support decimal numbers,
only integers.  Is this true?

Mick Davis
mickdavis@kpmg.com

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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Capacity of a battery array is figured like so...

one cell = ratings on the cell
two cells in series = add the voltages, capacity( mA/H) stays the same
as what's on _one_ cell.
two cells in parallel = add the capacities, the voltage is the same as
what's on _one_ cell.

A 3V, 850mA/H cell is the same capacity as two AA (1.5A, 850mA/H) cells.

A good exploitation of the 3V cells would be to place two in parallel,
for a combined capacity of 1700mA/H.  Nice numbers, but too much
cost/cell and now you have to use a specialized cell and can no longer
just walk into a Pagenet office and ask for a battery. (assuming you
have an account there :)

Phil

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>From:  Jay GatesÝSMTP:gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA¨
>Sent:  Thursday, February 05, 1998 9:18 PM
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>Subject:       Litium 3V, er well...
>
>I am surprised by the 3V raing on a 'single' cell which is ?the same size
>as an AA.  However, the other problem is that it is only rated at
>850mAh.   While this is a bit above the 'generic' NiCD AA, you use TWO
>NiCd AA's giving a total of about 1400mAh...
><snip>

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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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>no one has said a word about the iomega click. >Its a pcmcia device that
acts like flash
>memory, but it uses cartrages instead of ram >chips.


WRONG!! It's rotating media, 5.0 volt, and will kill the battery life of a
200LX. It's also much slower than flash memory. Cartridges are projected to
be maximum of 40MB. Definitely not a substitute for 200LX.

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Have you messed with the setting for Xon/Xoff and Hardware?  Also some
equipment needs the "Enq-Ack" box checked.

Phil

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>From:  Keith LawrenceÝSMTP:keith@HK.SUPER.NET¨
>Sent:  Friday, February 06, 1998 3:10 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       DataComm settings for terminal
>
>Does anyone have any tips for setting up the 200LX as a console
>terminal?
>I've tried using DataComm and the HP serial cable used to transfer data
>between the LX and the PC.
>Settings I've used are 9600baud, COM1, 8N1, VT100. No joy. Am I missing
>something obvious?
><snip>

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On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Keith Lawrence wrote:

> Does anyone have any tips for setting up the 200LX as a console
> terminal?
> I've tried using DataComm and the HP serial cable used to transfer data
> between the LX and the PC.
> Settings I've used are 9600baud, COM1, 8N1, VT100. No joy. Am I missing
> something obvious?

What protocol are you using on the LX? I use Zmodem on both the LX and in
HyperTerminal in Windows 95 at 115200 baud and just transferred a small
file fine.

Other obvious thing...make sure PC has matching settings. I started the
receiving end first (PC) and then the sender (LX) immediately
afterwards...I don't know if there's a preferred order to do this or not.

- Longden

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Subject:      tiny AC power supply

Check out:  http://www.plugpwr.com/alpha.htm

These are small AC power supplies that offer regulated DC in various
voltages.  They aren't much cheaper than HP's but the size might be
important to some.

I don't own one.  I just saw their ad on page 105 of February 1998
Electronics Now magazine.

Cheers...
Russ

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The two "AA" cells in the 200LX are in series.  As a result, the total =
power available is still only 850mAh with standard Ni-Cads.  The =
possibility of using the Varta battery holds promise only if the =
discharge characteristics of the battery can handle large loads in short =
periods of time.  This has a lot to do with the internal resistance of =
the battery.  I'd be reluctant to start "shaving" pieces of my battery =
compartment just to test the idea but it may work.  I applaud your =
creativity.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jay Gates ÝSMTP:gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA¨
Sent:   Thursday, February 05, 1998 8:19 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Litium 3V, er well...

I am surprised by the 3V raing on a 'single' cell which is ?the same =
size
as an AA.  However, the other problem is that it is only rated at
850mAh.   While this is a bit above the 'generic' NiCD AA, you use TWO
NiCd AA's giving a total of about 1400mAh...

Now, I have suggested, without serious reply from the list, that someone
try stuffing in a pair of Varta "4/5A" size batteries.  These guys are =
5mm
shorter than AA's (no problem) and 3mm larger in diameter.

***These puppies are 2100mAh EACH!
***That's like using SIX standard NiCd AA's.
I think they may even come in NiMH format as well as the NiCd I am
referring to (I got a brochure from the Varta website then lost it, =
blast!).
All it would require is a bit of plastic shaving and two brass spacers;
after installing my own 2x upgrade, I know there's enough room for them
inside.
If only I weren't a med student... I'd have time for such endavors!

     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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>Are you still an employee of HP in Singapore?
>
>Avi ÝD&A¨
>
Yes, why you ask?

Jorgen
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Bas Pruijn writes:
> Sorry George never tried it. I reply because my question is more or less the
> same. Is it possible to acces a windows NT machine from the 200lx using Dial
> up networking. I saw this should be possible. You can install 'serial cable'
> as your modem. When I tried this, no contact could be made between the
> machines. Am I forgetting something, or is this simply not possible. I'd
> like to use the windows NT machine for webserver and make an intranet this
> way.

I've never had the desire or need to do so I've never worked on the details.

George

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Chris Lott writes:
> I have always used the HP connectivity pack, both on my Windows 95
> computer at home and on my NT 4.0 system at work. I have never had
> any problems. Are these alternate solutions you are discussing a
> significant improvement on the HP program?

zip is a DOS file transfer program. It's easy to use (just a simple =
commandline) and really fast. I suspect that it might be a case of DOS =
vs NT where NT doesn't allow access to the hardware.

George

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Organization: Phase IV Systems, Inc.
Subject:      Re: zip in NT...
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> zip is a DOS file transfer program. It's easy to use (just a
> simple commandline) and really fast. I suspect that it might be a
> case of DOS vs NT where NT doesn't allow access to the hardware.

Regarding NT using the serial ports. At work, we have to perform
serial I/O frequently to a variety of items under development. In the
past, we had programs that would access the port from a DOS computer.
We could use such stand-bys as Procomm Plus as a terminal emulator
for simple commands and manual testing. Also we would write short C
programs that interact with the BIOS to control the serial port,
hence allowing automated tests and data collection. Then along comes
NT...

To our surpise, most of the programs we have tried on NT works, after
a fashion (even PCPLUS). The problem is the speed. NT emulates the
old DOS-BIOS serial port functions, and apparently does so in a very
in-efficient manner (speed-wise). Unless the ZIP program manipulates
the port in an unusual or non-standard way, I would think it would
work, albeit perhaps at a slow data rate. I don't know how robust ZIP
would be, either, in the face of sudden pauses in it's execution, as
NT is prone to do from time to time.

Now I'm curious, and I'll have to download the latest version of ZIP
and try it for myself on my NT computer at work.

BTW, those using Windows 95 computers don't suffer this same speed
problem as do NT users. Apparently, the DOS interfaces under 95 are
much quicker. I don't know how 95 compares with plain DOS, however.

-Chris Lott




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You might be able to:
for example

when I use the HP's built in Data Comm, I normally type in

user name
password
ppp default


I am able to access some unix machines if I don't type in
ppp default

but rather

telenet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx


I suspect this would work with NT as well.



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>Bas Pruijn writes:
>> Sorry George never tried it. I reply because my question is more or less
>>the
>> same. Is it possible to acces a windows NT machine from the 200lx using
>>Dial
>> up networking. I saw this should be possible. You can install 'serial
>>cable'
>> as your modem. When I tried this, no contact could be made between the
>> machines. Am I forgetting something, or is this simply not possible. I'd
>> like to use the windows NT machine for webserver and make an intranet this
>> way.
>
>I've never had the desire or need to do so I've never worked on the details.
>
>George
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On 1998-02-05 rmzuluaga@vasia.com said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I have used the width parameter of the Smart Clip for the
   >database to set my columnar report. It does not seem to work.
   >Has anyone out there ever used it ?
In addition to this question: has anyone been able to use multiple
smartclips. I can add some other smartclip, but if I select it nothing
happens. Is this normal?


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I just received e-mail from a Dutch news-mailer. It said Lotus is now (or
will in the near future) offering FREE upfrade of cc:mail to lotus notes.

I guess this will be the final end of the build in app. cc:Mail

I think this may give someone a reason to devellop lotus-notes connectivity
fot the 200lx

Any comments?


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I went to iomega's page, and it said the voltage on the click was 3.3v.

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WRONG!! It's rotating media, 5.0 volt, and will kill the battery life of
>a 200LX.

According to "Digital PhotoFX" it is a battery powered 40Mb shirt-pocket
drive (125 UK-pounds) with removable disks (6 UK-pounds) made for
digital cameras, laptops and organisers by Iomega. I believe it has its
own battery. No details unfortunately.

Not that 40Mb would be of much use for the new Leica S1 which makes 76Mb
pictures (5140x5140 pixels).

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The following invitation from Gary R Oliver appeared Wednesday (Feb 3) in=

the Agenda/Magellan section of the LotusB forum on CompuServe. I offered =
to
re-post it here, and he approved. Please respond directly to him:

-------------------

If you want to stay in touch with other Agenda users, how about the Agend=
a
Newsletter. I have decided to try doing a newsletter as a way of sharing
ideas and expertise. Yours as well as mine. It will only work if people a=
re
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So if you are interested, send me your email address (compuserve or
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Subject:      Re: Iomega Click

> According to "Digital PhotoFX" it is a battery powered 40Mb shirt-pocket
> drive (125 UK-pounds) with removable disks (6 UK-pounds) made for
> digital cameras, laptops and organisers by Iomega. I believe it has its
> own battery. No details unfortunately.
>
> Not that 40Mb would be of much use for the new Leica S1 which makes 76Mb
> pictures (5140x5140 pixels).
>
> Jorgen
>

Ouch, I wouldn't even want files that big on a pcmcia hard disk, which is
what that camera probably was ment to use. I think the clik is aimed more
at the consumer / home use camera market where it would be real
competition for flash ram and even Sony's floppy based cameras.

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> ... but we like the community of palmtoppers
> and these great pieces of engineering.

Ah, there's something about great pieces of engineering.


BTW I think people are finally becoming desensitised to Windows dressing.
Great engineering will yet have its day.


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> > The 32mb 200LX will be offered in the US. The japanese upgrade
> > is also considered a "strategic export" by MITI
> > and may not be exported without lots of hassle from Japan.

Sorry, what's MITI?

And do they classify the upgrade as a `munition'o` ?
                                                v

> Interesting. I wonder what all that on-board ram does to battery life and
> bootup times?
Me too. Cost also.

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I am VERY interested in having Lotus Notes connectivity to the HP200LX!!!
Jim J.
e-mail:  jjohnson@tmcc.com





126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL on 02/05/98 05:26:49 AM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
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To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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I just received e-mail from a Dutch news-mailer. It said Lotus is now (or
will in the near future) offering FREE upfrade of cc:mail to lotus notes.
I guess this will be the final end of the build in app. cc:Mail
I think this may give someone a reason to devellop lotus-notes connectivity
fot the 200lx
Any comments?

Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn       mailto:pruijn@few.eur.nl
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> Date:    Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:55:45 +0100
> From:    "Daniel Kropveld, Amsterdam-NL" <D.KROPVELD@AMC.UVA.NL>
> Subject: daily greetings
> Actually I am getting quite fed up reading all that over and over again.
> I wondered if anybody assembled a very creative APPTS.INI file with some
> nice quotes or whatever.

I've created an appts.ini file with a bunch of one-liners for network
information.  It's very simple, lines like "Bridges can join or divide
LAN segments."  It's not clever, but practical if you work with
networks.  Let me know and I'll email it to you.

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Heartfelt greetings to you, also.

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Great response!
________________________________________________________

At 12:34 AM 2/6/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>We are both reasonably bright fellows who can do other things
>for much more profit (Andreas, shut up! :-) ...) but we like
>the community of palmtoppers and these great pieces of
>engineering.
>
> Avi Meshar
> President, CEO
> D&A Software, Inc.
>
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>Hi,
>
>I wounder how correct those figures are.... According to other sources
>during 1997 about 500,000 Win CE palmtops was sold. Yes, HP is the leader
>in Win CE so far.
>
>Jorgen

For more information about this, go to
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsce/default.asp


Jorgen
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 06:38:31 +0000
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On 1998-02-07 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >> > The 32mb 200LX will be offered in the US. The japanese upgrade
   >> > is also considered a "strategic export" by MITI
   >> > and may not be exported without lots of hassle from Japan.
   >Sorry, what's MITI?

It's a government organization in Japan that oversees various industries.
The 'M' is for Ministry. Sorry, I've haven't stayed abreast of current events
to remember the rest.

Supposedly they hold significant sway over the electronics and auto industry
there (among others) and even dictate to some extent, the direction they
should head and identify strategic targets for competition.

- Longden

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 HP>Date:    Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:26:06 +0100
 HP>I still am having problems with running the old macros with the new
 HP>PE. Still hoping for help...
<snip>
 HP>(BTW I have a 1.7Mbyte dutch spelling list for PalEdit
 HP>('Groene Boekje') Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld
Dear Daniel, Could you Email me that dutch spelling list?
What is that "Groene Boekje" .The only Groene Boekje that I know of is a
publication for expatriates who are living in Indonesia.
We gaan nergens voor, we doen iets.

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John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU> wrote:

> Does anyone know where a person can get a floppy disk drive
> that will work through the serial port on the LX?


Try Sparcom.  I'm not sure if they still make it, but they used to have
a serial port FDD called "Drive 100".  Check out:
        http://www.sparcom.com
If that doesn't turn up anything, try an AltaVista search for Sparcom=
 &
Drive 100.

Educalc used to sell the drives, but I don't know who the distributors
are now.  Maybe Sparcom sells direct...

-PR
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Please send the APPTS.INI file to :
tonyv@davis.uswest.net and thanks very much.
Tony VanUitert

Bob Clark wrote:

> > Date:    Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:55:45 +0100
> > From:    "Daniel Kropveld, Amsterdam-NL" <D.KROPVELD@AMC.UVA.NL>
> > Subject: daily greetings
> > Actually I am getting quite fed up reading all that over and over again.
> > I wondered if anybody assembled a very creative APPTS.INI file with some
> > nice quotes or whatever.
>
> I've created an appts.ini file with a bunch of one-liners for network
> information.  It's very simple, lines like "Bridges can join or divide
> LAN segments."  It's not clever, but practical if you work with
> networks.  Let me know and I'll email it to you.
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On 1998-02-02 jeffj@SCOTT.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Does anyone know of a DOS based program which will allow one to send
   >alphanumeric pages via the 200LX? I've got Windoze software but I am
   >looking for software for my palmtop. Any comments or suggestions
   >would be welcomed.
   >73 de KF4KGQ
   >Jeff Johns
   >jeffj@scott.net
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   >Birmingham, Alabama USA

There's a program called skyword that works on Skypage(r) pagers . I don't
know if it will work on others. I might have a copy lying around if
you're interested. If you are, I can upload to your FTP site.


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Subject:      Re: Battery covers-- times2tech haz 'em for 5 bux

I just got one this week.

http://www.times2tech.com

On 1998-02-02 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I checked the archives for battery cover sources.
   >Edu Calc, I believe, is out of business.
   >Anyone know of a source?
   >Thanks
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I would like tot have that spelling list too.

karl

At 04:03 AM 2/7/98 +0400, you wrote:
> HP>Date:    Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:26:06 +0100
> HP>I still am having problems with running the old macros with the new
> HP>PE. Still hoping for help...
><snip>
> HP>(BTW I have a 1.7Mbyte dutch spelling list for PalEdit
> HP>('Groene Boekje') Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld
>Dear Daniel, Could you Email me that dutch spelling list?
>What is that "Groene Boekje" .The only Groene Boekje that I know of is a
>publication for expatriates who are living in Indonesia.
>We gaan nergens voor, we doen iets.
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Does anyone know where you can down load OB6DSK.ZIP on the Internet?

This contains the Omnigo Win apps that let you use some 200LX app data files (APPT,
PHONE) in Windows.

Thanks.
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:04:32 +0200
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Dear list members,

A while ago I wrote that there is a way to use Laplink remote access in a
Windows 95 DOS box. This is useful especially for those of use who want to
use programs such as PKZIP to backup our palmtops. I would like to apologise
to all those who wrote asking for an explanation, that I haven't answered
until now, the reason being that just yesterday I got my hands on an English
version of Windows 95 and can only now explain exactly what the correct
settings are. So here goes...

I am going to assume that you already have Laplink remote access installed
in your desktop in a directory which I will call C:\HP200. I also assume
that when not in the Windows 95 GUI (ie under DOS) that you have it set up
and working, and the name of the batch file that starts up Laplink is
LLRA.BAT. If you need more information on how to do this just look up the
SUPER site under "Hacking with Jorgen".

1. Using Notepad or a suitable text editor, create a batch file, which we
will call LLRAWIN.BAT containing the following line:

command /k llra.bat

2. Save the file in your laplink directory (C:\HP200)

3. Using Windows Explorer or "My computer" go into the Laplink directory and
highlight the new file LLRAWIN.BAT. Click on the right button of your mouse
and select the item "Create A Shortcut" from the pop up menu.

4. Now highlight the created shortcut, and once again click on the right
button and this time select "Properties" from the menu.
   Under the "Program" Tab click on the "Advanced" Button. In the "Advanced"
window make sure that the item "Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from detecting
Windows" and "Suggest MS-DOS mode as necessary" are both clicked (I'm pretty
sure that the second one is not vital). Click on the "OK" button.
   Click on the "Screen" Tab and make sure that Window is selected. I also
have it set for an initial size of 50 lines. I have all the other items in
this window also checked.
   In the "Misc" tab I have selected "Warn if still active".
   Click on OK to close the dialog box. I have then dragged the shortcut
onto my desktop to keep it handy.

Having sone all this, how does it work? I connect my palmtop to the desktop
with the cable, start up laplink on the palmtop and then double click on the
shortcut to start it up. After a couple of seconds I hear the toodle tone
 from both computers and I am connected. Inside the DOS box I can use the
command line, or Norton commander ar any DOS program to access my palmtop. I
can also run a batch file to back up my palmtop using PKZIP or any of its
cousins as the palmtop appears inside this window as drives G: H: etc (in my
case). When I have finished, I type "exit" inside the DOS BOX. I then get a
message inside the box saying that my TSR is now ready to run and that I
should press CTRL C to exit it. Typing CTRL C will then close the DOS box.

I have used this method a couple of times now and it has not failed me
(yet).

Good Luck to all who try.




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Subject:      RS NiMH Batteries

Follow on to my prior report on the RS NiMH batteries:

I recently got a corrupted PDB file on my PCIMIA drive with the NiMH
batteries. The only other time I had this happen was when I used
rechargeable alkalines briefly in my HPLX. Based on this, I decided to go
back to my 850 maH NiCads. I will run the battery depletion test on the
NiMH's as well to see if their characteristic has changed over the last
several weeks.  I think that I will stay away from NiMH's and go for some
hi capacity NiCads.

All is not lost - I can still use the NiMH's in my walkman.

Brian

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On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:01:06 mdstockr wrote:

> Does anyone know where you can down load OB6DSK.ZIP on the Internet?
>
> This contains the Omnigo Win apps that let you use some 200LX app data
> files (APPT, PHONE) in Windows.

OB6DSK.ZIP can be found at:
http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/Ob6dsk.zip

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          I'm using cc:Mail remote (not the built in app) on my 200LX.
           My problem is that I must exit system manager to connect to
          Compuserve to send & get messages.  Since I use Software
          Carousel I would think that it would be possible to switch
          to a different session to use cc:Mail.  When I do this the
          program can't initiate my external modem.  I've tried going
          into setup and enableing the Com1 port in DOS but this does
          not work either.

          Anyone else have this problem or a solution?

          Don.

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Could you post the ASCII file (appt.ini) as a message, so we can all
          enjoy?

          Don.


>
> I've created an appts.ini file with a bunch of one-liners for network
> information.  It's very simple, lines like "Bridges can join or divide
> LAN segments."  It's not clever, but practical if you work with
> networks.  Let me know and I'll email it to you.

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          I need some advice.

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From: Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
>is someone kmow where I can find Visual Basic?

I have a copy that I can email to you.  Still interested?

        Yi

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On 1998-02-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >HP>Date:    Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:26:06 +0100
   >HP>I still am having problems with running the old macros with the
   >HP>new PE. Still hoping for help...
   ><snip>
   >HP>(BTW I have a 1.7Mbyte dutch spelling list for PalEdit
   >HP>('Groene Boekje') Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld
   >Dear Daniel, Could you Email me that dutch spelling list?
   >What is that "Groene Boekje" .The only Groene Boekje that I know of
   >is a publication for expatriates who are living in Indonesia.
   >We gaan nergens voor, we doen iets.
That 'Groene Boekje' is a list of words in Dutch. Every now and then, we
have to learn a new way of spelling (writing) words. The last change was in
'96. All the changes are written in the 'Groene Boekje'.

BTW: This is NOT a dictionary to translate into and from Dutch. It is only
for knowing how to spell words you already know what they mean.

HTH

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On 1998-02-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Does anyone know where you can down load OB6DSK.ZIP on the Internet?
   >This contains the Omnigo Win apps that let you use some 200LX app
   >data files (APPT, PHONE) in Windows.
   >Thanks.
Among other places, see http://surf.to/pruijn/download/

As far as I know, the phone app. will NOT work with modified
phone-databases. Anyone... Please tell me I'm wrong and let me know how to
do this.


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Thanks David Becher,

The Laplink Remote Access in a WIN95 DOS BOX setup, worked perfect.
(:O)

> Inside the DOS box I can use the command line, Norton commander or
> any DOS program to access my palmtop.

I used the MS Dosshell to access my palmtop, it worked great.
No more slow transfers with Transfile Win 200 for me. (:O)




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          >enabling it in DOS in the System Manager setup won't enable
          >it in other work areas, by default.  Try SERCTL /W in the
          >work area.  Alternatively, install the LXPro TSR that
          >allows you to view or change the complete status of the
          >serial port at any time.


Thanks, it works!  What page in the manual did you find this?  I must
          be going blind. :-)

          Don

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Greetings:

     I have just updated the http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
web site. Please let me know if there any problems ;-)

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when I use word 5.0 with my Newton keyboard my HP locks up. I have not yet
been able to figure out if the lock up occurs after certain keystrokes or is
otherwise predictable. Anyone else have this problem?

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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:10:30 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I've added alfie.zip to my ftp site. It's a nifty liitle paging program
that seems to run well on the 200LX. The URL is:

ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj

Jeff


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Is anyone else still taking comp.sys.palmtops?  There is so little HP =
stuff
in there now that I've been considering dropping it, and today my mind =
was
made up for me by some idiot posting enormous binaries of cracked WinCE
software.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX UK

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Editor,

I am pleased that you were amused by the HP260LX "Press Release" which I
originally posted to the AOL PDA Message Boards.  As to its being a hoax, the
actual stream of events was that I posted a legitimate HP notice for the
HP360, and then posted the edited version which you have now published.  My
post for the HP260LX began with the comment, "And here's the notice that
should have been released:"

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish
             Team HP260LX

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          Anyone out there using cc:Mail with a Post Office other than
          Compuserve? (i.e. Post Office /w Router or Dialin)

          How do you get an Internet message out without asking your
          PO administrator to add the directory entry first.

          Currently if I create a message to INTERNET:johndoe@xyz.net
          I cant send the message via my Home PO without asking the
          administrator to add a remote user of
          INTERNET:johndoe@xyz.net.

          Thie slows me down.

          Can it be done any other way?

          Don.
          Sacramento, CA

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On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> Is anyone else still taking comp.sys.palmtops?  There is so little HP stuff
> in there now that I've been considering dropping it, and today my mind was
> made up for me by some idiot posting enormous binaries of cracked WinCE
> software.

Way to go Neil!

I just went and read the thread.  Glad you stood up to the guy.  Let us
know if his ISP responds.  You probably know better than me about the
legality of making death threats in the UK...

As far as the newsgroup goes... I think it's mostly been taken over by CE
users now, which is why I only download messages with "200LX" in them...

--
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http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Tomorrow (Monday, February 8) is the last day of the contest at my site,
at least as things stand right now.  All entries must be received by 5:00
Pacific Standard Time tomorrow afternoon.  Now is the time to get your
entry in if you've been putting it off...

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http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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I've noticed that my 200 LX has screen grey-outs.  These occured but
once in a blue moon over the last six months or so, but now are
beginning to happen regularly.  I use NiMH Batteries, 1200mAh, but
the voltage may be high when this occurs.  The problem fixes itself
it I hit the power button to turn it off, then again to turn it on
again.

Anybody have any ideas?

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> Sorry, what's MITI?

Ministry of Industry and Technology or some such. They oversee
most technology and industry in Japan.

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On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:31:00 +0000, you wrote:

>I've noticed that my 200 LX has screen grey-outs.  These occured but
>once in a blue moon over the last six months or so, but now are
>beginning to happen regularly.  I use NiMH Batteries, 1200mAh, but
>the voltage may be high when this occurs.  The problem fixes itself
>it I hit the power button to turn it off, then again to turn it on
>again.
>
>Anybody have any ideas?
>
I have also had the same trouble... But it QUIT ???
I have no idea why.

Bye
Dean L. W5GXL

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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:06:45 -0800
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              larry soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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I've also had problems getting zip.com to work reliably
within an NT dos shell.  My solution was sent to me by
another HP lister whose name I have since forgotten (I'm
terribly sorry about that!).  He suggested that I find a
program called xport.  It's a shareware DOS program.  It
works quite well although it's not quite as quick as zip and
takes a second or two longer to establish a connection than
zip.  OTOH, it works rather reliably under NT.


...lars

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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:13:41 +0100
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Does anybody has any advice how to charge Li-ion bateries?
(Should they be discharged before recharging?, what
is the current (mAh) to charge them?, etc.)

I have 7,2V 1200mAh Li-ion.

Any help appreciated

JS
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Our corporation plans to purchase 20x HP200 palmtop, 30x HP360LX
and 20x HP620LX. Do you have any tips where to get a LOW price?

Thanks

JS
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:31:37 +0100
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              "Daniel Kropveld, Amsterdam-NL" <D.KROPVELD@AMC.UVA.NL>
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There have been many requests for the Dutch spelling list.
However, because the file is 1.7 Mb, I cannot send it by mail.
Also I am not sure if I would violate the (GNU-licenced) copyright
restrictions of the original list. So I will point you to the links.


Download WOORDEN.MED from

ftp://ftp.tue.nl/pub/tex/GB95/spell-nl-v5b/woorden/

That is an extended 'Groene Boekje' words list (with plurals etc)

The home page of WORDS-L voor vrije woordenlijsten is:

http://home.pi.net/~fg/words.htm


BTW Het Groene Boekje is the most official words list of the Dutch
language. This list contains the latest ('pannenkoek') spelling.
Colleagues have tested this words list against WP and WORD spell
checkers on the Nationaal Dictee, and concluded this was the best.

Read the PEspell manual on how to include the words list.
Just enter the commands, it is really simple.
I have tried to compile this words-list using maximum optimization,
but it only ran ** 1% A DAY **! (that is 4 months to complete).
But then non-optimized version is ok for speed. It just is so that
unfortunately 1.7 Mbyte is too large to waste it on my flash card :(



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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:54:10 -0500
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Dear Friends of Art,
> >
> >   It is with great sadness that I have to tell you that Art died on
> > Saturday February 7, 1998 at 8:00am in Kaohsiung/Taiwan. On July of 1996
> > he was diagnosed as having Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease.
> > Following that hospitalization he gradually suffered more and more
> > shortness of breath until lately any physical exertion left him gasping.
> >   On Monday February 2nd he had a sudden attack of sneezing and coughing
> > in a reaction to something in our polluted air here. Tuesday I took him
> > to the doctor and by Wednesday night since he was not responding to the
> > medication I insisted he go to the hospital. On Friday morning he said
> > he was feeling "better, not good, but better". However that afternoon he
> > had another asthmatic attack and just went down hill from then on. I
> > feel  that he got excellent medical care, that the doctors and nurses
> > did all in their power to do. They were very caring people.
> >    Art and I (he said "Isabelle is planing for us to move back this
> > summer") were planning to move back this summer, but he was not looking
> > forward to retirement. He felt he would just rot away without work.
> >   After taking care of thinks here I will be at our daughter Martha
> > Morris's in Indianapolis for a while until I made a decision about the
> > future.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > Isabelle Borg
> >
> > anborg@eagle.seed.net.tw (please don't send any e-mail after Feb. 14
> > because I'm not sure if someone can read the email for me.)
> > Fax: +886-7-7321976
> > Tel: +886-7-7311723
> > Martha and Mike Morris
> > 3456 MacArthur Lane
> > Indianapolis, Indiana 46224
> > Tel: 317-329-1361

p.s.: Please delete Art's emale adress from the HP2000LX list.

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If you dont mind i would like to have a copy too
thanks inadvance..
-----Original Message-----
From: Yi Wang <yi@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Visal Basic DOS


>From: Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
>>is someone kmow where I can find Visual Basic?
>
>I have a copy that I can email to you.  Still interested?
>
>        Yi
>
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Ministry of International Trade And Industry
I guess...
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> Sorry, what's MITI?

Ministry of Industry and Technology or some such. They oversee
most technology and industry in Japan.

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I apologize in advance if this turns out to be a rookie question but I
would appreciate any assistance.

How can I automatically/easily copy all of the "fields" in a database
record (text, check box and option button fields) into another database
record.  Both records may be formatted exactly the same.  Smart Clip seems
to only handle data into text files.

A 200LX rookie,



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On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Larry Berry wrote:

> How can I automatically/easily copy all of the "fields" in a database
> record (text, check box and option button fields) into another database
> record.  Both records may be formatted exactly the same.  Smart Clip seems
> to only handle data into text files.

With your database in list-view (ie, the one with 1 record per line),
press Fn-Copy, then Fn-Paste. You should now see 2 records that look the
same. Edit either as needed.

- Longden

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Comments: To: Larry Berry <lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL>
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->How can I automatically/easily copy all of the "fields" in a database
->record (text, check box and option button fields) into another database
->record.  Both records may be formatted exactly the same.  Smart Clip
->seems to only handle data into text files.

Go to the file you wish to copy and click on "Fn" and "Copy" (or cut if
you wish to move it).  Then go to the databse you wish to copy into and
click on Fn plus Paste.

Jeff


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*HP/LX Palmtop             http://www.orthohelp.com/hp.htm
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Has anybody been able to successfully mount a JAM disk image under
DOS 7/Windows 95?  Everytime I boot the machine with JAM.SYS in the
CONFIG.SYS, the OS freezes.  Not immediately, but after a few seconds.

I've tried confirming each entry in CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT loading
ONLY SETVER.EXE and JAM.SYS but to no avail (SETVER.EXE seems to be
required to fool JAM.SYS into thinking it's running on DOS 3.30).

Any solution other than copying the JAM files back onto the palmtop (it's
a 10M image) would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!


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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:27:39 -0500
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I would like to draw on the collective experience of this list, the
following is my question.

I am plannig to get a laptop computer, to use parallel with my HP 200 lx.
Can someone advise me if I need any special procedures to use my A: card
into a laptop. The one I have is Magicram 40/80, and it has Stack v.3 (I
think).

Mikhail

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Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@SYMPATICO.CA>

Text of message from mepelbaum@SYMPATICO.CA, 8 Feb 1998, 04:27 PM
> I would like to draw on the collective experience of this list, the
> following is my question.
>
> I am plannig to get a laptop computer, to use parallel with my HP 200
> lx.  Can someone advise me if I need any special procedures to use my A:
> card into a laptop. The one I have is Magicram 40/80, and it has Stack
> v.3 (I think).
>
> Mikhail

My advice is try to use it unstacked.  If stacked, you need to run
stacking drivers on the laptop, and running DOS drivers under Win95 is a
pain.

If you insist on Stacking and put it into your laptop without running
drivers, all you will see is the single Stackvol file (which is fine if
all you want to do is backups).

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
 (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
 ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu

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A friend of mine just recently purchased a (gonna take a chance)
PalmPilot.

He was showing me some of the many E-texts available in a *.PRC file
format.

Does anyone know if there is a utility to view/search these from the
HP200lx?

Does anyone know the characteristics of these files?  Thaet appear to be
graphic files
that allow for searching, viewing and perhaps editing.


Bradley Johnson
x4552
bjohnson@platsoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:19:53 -0500
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OK, then next question: how do I unstack it? I need it to actually transfer
data and to synchronize databases. Cable transfers are OK, but too slow for
my need.

Mikhail

>
> My advice is try to use it unstacked.  If stacked, you need to run
> stacking drivers on the laptop, and running DOS drivers under Win95 is a
> pain.
>
> If you insist on Stacking and put it into your laptop without running
> drivers, all you will see is the single Stackvol file (which is fine if
> all you want to do is backups).
>
> - Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>   ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
>  (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:36:01 -0600
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A great number of E-texts are available in standard ASCII format from
Something called the Glutinburg Project.  (I'm sure I misspelled that).
They have a web page at an address like that also.  When I say a "great"
many, I mean in excess of a thousand documents.  The HP200LX with an
add-in program called VR (Vertical Reader) is an excellent place to
stash and read this stuff.

Phil

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>Sent:  Monday, February 09, 1998 1:06 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       E-text files
>
>A friend of mine just recently purchased a (gonna take a chance)
>PalmPilot.
>
>He was showing me some of the many E-texts available in a *.PRC file
>format.
>
>Does anyone know if there is a utility to view/search these from the
>HP200lx?
>
>Does anyone know the characteristics of these files?  Thaet appear to be
>graphic files
>that allow for searching, viewing and perhaps editing.
>
>
>Bradley Johnson
>x4552
>bjohnson@platsoft.com
>

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Subject:      Looking for Works 2.0 for DOS Monochrome files

Looking for Works 2.0 for DOS Monochrome files

I'm looking for Works 2.0 DOS  monochrome files (.ctx, .scn, .sob ) for the
640x480 screen settings. If anyone has these files can you forward me a
copy.



Regards,

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/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:44:44 -0500
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> I have used the width parameter of the Smart Clip for the
database to set my columnar report. It does not seem to work.

The WIDTH setting under SmartClip is separate from the WIDTH setting for a
Columnar report. The setting of one WIDTH parameter has nothing at all to
do with the appearance of the other.

Remember that Smart Clip operates on a CUT & PASTE process. You design what
you want the Smart Clip to CUT, which puts that information in the
Clipboard for future a future PASTE command. Under Smart Clip, the WIDTH
setting allows you to allocate a specific width for a particular field
which will be maintained when you PASTE the contents of the Smart Clip
somewhere (ie. MEMO, APPT, etc.)

The Columns setting (accessed by pressing F8 from the main Database screen)
allows you to specify how the initial screen view will look of your
database (assuming you don't have the DataCard set on). From here, you can
ADD, DELETE, MOVE and adjust the WIDTH of each column of data (each column
being a different field).

Hope I helped you clear that up! Any further questions?

Alex Arancio
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:50:57 EST
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Subject:      Re: using HP card in laptop
Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@SYMPATICO.CA>

Copy all of your files onto your PC through a cable (you can use the
connectivity pack or TransFile).  After you're certain they were
transferred successfully, reformat your a: drive. Take the stacker
drivers out of your autoexec.bat and config.sys files.  Then reboot the
palmtop.  Finally, transfer your files back from the PC to the palmtop's
a: drive.

Does this make sense?

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Text of message from mepelbaum@SYMPATICO.CA, 9 Feb 1998, 02:19 PM
> OK, then next question: how do I unstack it? I need it to actually
> transfer data and to synchronize databases. Cable transfers are OK, but
> too slow for my need.
>
> Mikhail
>
> >
> > My advice is try to use it unstacked.  If stacked, you need to run
> > stacking drivers on the laptop, and running DOS drivers under Win95 is
> > a pain.
> > Ý...¨

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Quinton,
I am running Works R2.0A and I do not have the files but it runs just fine.
Are you sure you need them?   I do have my original disks so if you want me to
check them I will.   Let me know.

Cathy

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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:07:55 -0800
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You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).  You can access the
searchable index at http://www.promo.net/pg/query.cgi

You can read and search the files with Vertical Reader (from
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html I believe).

The Palm Pilot versions are formatted for that machine - the ones for
Vertical Reader are 'as is' from the PG database, which are ASCII files.  I
think that there are more ASCII texts available than those for the Palm
Pilot.  He probably gets his Palm Pilot files from AOL or another service
like that.

At 11:06 AM 2/9/98 -0800, you wrote:
>A friend of mine just recently purchased a (gonna take a chance)
>PalmPilot.
>
>He was showing me some of the many E-texts available in a *.PRC file
>format.
>
>Does anyone know if there is a utility to view/search these from the
>HP200lx?
>
>Does anyone know the characteristics of these files?  Thaet appear to be
>graphic files
>that allow for searching, viewing and perhaps editing.
>
>
>Bradley Johnson
>x4552
>bjohnson@platsoft.com
>
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On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).

No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.

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On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Larry Berry wrote:

> How can I automatically/easily copy all of the "fields" in a database=

> record (text, check box and option button fields) into another databa=
se
> record.  Both records may be formatted exactly the same.  Smart Clip =
seems
> to only handle data into text files.

If you want to copy multiple records, press the Space Bar when a chosen=
 record
is highlighted
but NOT opened. A black Diamond shape will appear to the left indicatin=
g it is
seleceted.
Repeat this for all the records you want copied, then press Menu/File/E=
xtract
and give a
temporary name as target file. This will copy every marked record into =
the temp
file. If you
now press DEL then all the marked records will be deleted.

Now open the target database and pres Menu/File/Merge and specify the t=
emp
file, and the
saved records will be inserted all in one go.

Paul Szilard
=

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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:54:00 -0800
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>> You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).

> No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.

... who used it to print the Bible.

http://www.ucsm.ac.uk/church.net.uk/news/files/guten.htm
<http://www.ucsm.ac.uk/church.net.uk/news/files/guten.htm>

"The Gutenberg Bible was the first Bible ever published in large quantities.
It was named after Johann Gutenberg who was dubbed "the strongest claimant
to the honour of the invention of printing". It was Gutenberg's firm which
printed this Bible in, it's believed, March 1455."

- Joe

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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:08:24 -0800
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Subject:      MITI

Since I'm posting URLs... here's the MITI home page (English version):
http://www.miti.go.jp/index-e.html <http://www.miti.go.jp/index-e.html>

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This last weekend, I was asked if I had ever messed around with AI
(artificial intelligence) software.  My answer was "yes", but I had to
qualify my answer with "I had a program for my C-64, but that was the
last time I did anything like that."

Without the ability to "surf-the-net", can anyone think of where (or
what) I might find an AI application/development set that might run on
the HP200LX?

Phil

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Well, it's done. Took no time at all, to my surprise. I simply deleted th=
e
Stacvol file, disabled the drivers in config.sys =96 and that's it, the c=
ard
is un-stacked.

It took about one minute to bring the files back to the card, that
originally took 30 minutes to transfer to the desktop machine. Why? Becau=
se
desktop and laptop computers are connected via LapLink for Windows,
parallel cable... From desktop to laptop, to the card, to HP.

I would like to thank everyone for the advice. This procedure worked out
very well. Now that it's done, it seems like not a big deal. However,
everything is a big deal when you don't know how to do it.

Mikhail

Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, General Forensic & Correctional Psychiatry
416-842-1446 or 800-263-1420 ext.635-274. Fax 905-628-4443
155 James St. South, # 167, Hamilton, Ontario, L8N 1H5, Canada

This document was composed using voice recognition software.=20
Incorrectly recognized words may be present.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:52:33 -0700
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     Hi!
     O.K. I have to ask the question. What was Johann Guttenberg's REAL
     name????? That is the question of the day.

     Helmut in Colorado

     Be interesting to see who comes up with that name. I will post it in
     24 hours.


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Author:  Non-HP-joebar (joebar@MICROSOFT.COM) at HP-ColSprings,shargw1
Date:    2/9/98 2:54 PM


>> You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).

> No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.

... who used it to print the Bible.

http://www.ucsm.ac.uk/church.net.uk/news/files/guten.htm
<http://www.ucsm.ac.uk/church.net.uk/news/files/guten.htm>

"The Gutenberg Bible was the first Bible ever published in large quantities.
It was named after Johann Gutenberg who was dubbed "the strongest claimant to
the honour of the invention of printing". It was Gutenberg's firm which
printed this Bible in, it's believed, March 1455."

- Joe

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Phil  =96  you may want to consider Lotus Agenda, even though it is somew=
hat
complicated and slow on the HP.

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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> This last weekend, I was asked if I had ever messed around with AI
> (artificial intelligence) software.  My answer was "yes", but I had to
> qualify my answer with "I had a program for my C-64, but that was the

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Agenda is considered to have some AI features.

--- On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:35:42 -0600  Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:

>This last weekend, I was asked if I had ever messed around with AI
>(artificial intelligence) software.  My answer was "yes", but I had to
>qualify my answer with "I had a program for my C-64, but that was the
>last time I did anything like that."
>
>Without the ability to "surf-the-net", can anyone think of where (or
>what) I might find an AI application/development set that might run on
>the HP200LX?
>

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   I am under the impression the Stacker 4.1 is "Windows 95 Compatible" after
a fashion.  I am in the process of deciding how and what to buy to upgrade my
current 1992 computer.  I have Stacker 4.0.  If I go with Windows 95 (I can
get a card reader that works with my cards and 95) it would be good to have
the Stacker upgrade.  Any thoughts on where to find it?
   Jean F. Feldman, DVM
   Hamburg, NY

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On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:35:42, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Without the ability to "surf-the-net", can anyone think of where (or
> what) I might find an AI application/development set that might run on
> the HP200LX?


Hi Phil,

Try Q&A 3.0 is says IA right on page 1-3.
If, you have or need more info. about it contact me at my email
address.

Regards,

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  / __ \  ____ ___  ____ _____
 / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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There's a nifty little program at the eddie ftp site (I think that's
where it is) that's called Joe Sim. It's a neat little AI program for the
palmtop.

Jeff


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In response to a question about options for screen cleaning two weeks
ago, Jim Smith <JIMS@SMITHCHARTER.COM> wrote:

> A few years ago I purchased a product called SNAP.  It was advertised
> as the only product approved for cleaning and protecting the screen and
> keyboard of a 95LX.  I think it came from Educalc.  The company name on
> the bottle is:
>
> Mist Products
> 16 Watch Hill Rd.
> Croton-on-Hudson, NY 10520
>
> It seems to do a good job and is supposed to impart a protective coating
> which minimizes the accumulation of dust.  I have no idea if this
> company is still in business but my 232cc bottle has lasted through 4
> palmtops.

I just found a web page for them:

    http://www.concentric.net/~Snapprod/

I have no experience with this product.

In general, I'm wary of screen cleaning products, especially after
seeing one ruin the coating on a very expensive Sony Trinitron
workstation monitor.  If the manufacturer specifies damp cloth or moist
tissue, that's all I use.

                                -Jim.

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This site has been mentioned before:

    http://www.umecut.maine.edu/~baack/bay.htm

It is Jason Baack's discussion of packet with a 1MB 200LX.  It includes a
list of components and sources, and links to software.

                                -Jim.

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Phil,

AI on the palmtop is possible. Issues are ones of speed and
memory. Certain applications, like neural nets require as much
memory as you can throw at them, so you won't be able to put
large setups. Speed is another problem, because it takes
sometimes a lot of crunching, but that depends on what you do.

> This last weekend, I was asked if I had ever messed around with AI
> (artificial intelligence) software.  My answer was "yes", but I had to
> qualify my answer with "I had a program for my C-64, but that was the
> last time I did anything like that."

Without getting to commercialized here <G>... I know of a
solution to your net-less state (sorry about the AI pun...),
WWW/LX. See PTP articles, and ads, as well as
http://www.dasoft.com (yes, I know you don't have browsers on
the palmtop), or call Shier Systems 1888 371 9391. It is a
commercial product produced by D&A Software, Inc, and I am its
president/ceo - so there, full disclosure :-)

To be totally honest, there is another product which I respect
("the worthy competitor") called NetTamer. I won't compare the
two, not fair for me to do it, others can.

> Without the ability to "surf-the-net", can anyone think of where (or
> what) I might find an AI application/development set that might run on
> the HP200LX?

Avi Meshar ÝD&A¨

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Is this the best software to access AOL from my 8mb, doublespeed 200LX?

If so, where can I get a download of the software. I looked in the PDA forum
and found only articles referencing it.

Ed Callahan

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Phil,

I run quite a bit of AI stuff on my HP200LX 2MB. Are you looking for a bare
bones Expert System shell, an expert system generation program (actually
creates a AI/ES shell in Pascal which can be compiled and run stand alone.),
or something in the Fuzzy Logic systems arena?

I'm not a programmer...just fasinated by AI and the HP, so I've attempted in
many ways to come up with "ideas" on how to marry the two marvels. I've tested
a lot of stuff on the HP, so I'll be able to help you out a bit more. Most of
the stuff I have is Shareware, so I'm happy to send it to you.

Best place to contact me is at my work email: store4u@troutsegall.com

Alex Arancio

Discount Long Distance - Commercial - Residential - Get Paid on your own phone
bill...every month...!  Free Web pages for Agents. Webmasters, earn a fee
without becoming an agent OR switching your long distances company!

Visit http://www.telecom-pros.com/members/alex

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> >> You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).
>
> > No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.
>
> ... who used it to print the Bible.

My point, however, is that the Gutenberg Project (e-texts) is named after
the inventor of movable type, not after the first Book he printed.

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Is palmtop.com still in business?  I sent an e-mail to
mailto:webmail@espmail.com which I found on
http://www.espmail.com/palmtop.htm but got no reply.

Mike Goggin
Round Rock, Texas


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Chris,

I very similar thing happened to me and all I could do was to export the qif
file, massage it in Quicken (for Windows/Macintosh) and then send it back
again.

If it's so far gone that it can't open the file, I'm afraid I can't help.

Nick

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Greetings,

I did not know Art Borg.  Probably many of us didn't either, though
not a few on the list had exchanges with him; but we all read his many
contributions.  I would simply like to endorse Al's message.

Art took the trouble to personally respond to one of my comments and
to give me a bit more depth and understanding in his explanation than
was strictly required.  He was obviously a caring person.

Sadly,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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>How can I automatically/easily copy all of the "fields" in a database
>record (text, check box and option button fields) into another
>database record.  Both records may be formatted exactly the same.
>Smart Clip seems to only handle data into text files.

Have you tried Extract & Merge?

From the exporting database select your records with the space bar.
Choose Extract from the menu and assign a temp file name.
Open the importing database and choose Merge then select your temp
database.

Don.

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Round Rock, huh?  God's Country, truly (hook 'em - from 'an
Ex).-------------------

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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:24:43 -0800
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How do the appt.ini files work?
I just created appointments directly.
=======================================================================
Philip Seyer -- author of  *What Makes Music Work* --
"A lucid, well-organized introduction to music theory"
-- American Library Association
http://www.ilovemusic.com  <== Phil's I love music and dance Web site.

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If only it were true! :>(

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Version 0.6 of the HP200LX PPP Development Kit (LXPPP) is now
available from:

        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/

Version 0.6 is no longer in beta and has the following improvements
over version 0.5 beta:

    Version 0.6 - February 1998 (Adelaide, Australia)
    -------------------------------------------------
    Modified the configuration directive names to allow for
    reuse across future LXPPP applications (such as LXNNTP).
    Added the maxlines directive to allow header-only downloads
    as well as limiting downloads based on the number of lines.
    Moved PNR version 2 into a separate complete package.
    Added the LXFTP client.

The first goal of LXPPP is that it should be possible to connect to
your ISP via PPP and do all sorts of "networking things" (including
POP,SMTP,FTP,NNTP,HTTP and other nifty acronyms) on your HP200LX
palmtop without having to terminate the System Manager.

The second goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to do this without
paying anyone any money for the software.

The third goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to modify and
recompile the software on the HP200LX (assuming you've got Borland C++
2.0 and a large enough flash card).

To use the HP200LX PPP Development Kit, you will need to know how to
install a PPP packet driver and how to configure a WATTCP.CFG file.
Instructions for doing these things can be found in the dosppp and
wattcp packages.  I have included links to these packages on my web
site.

If you get LXPPP to work, please send me email.  If you get it to
work, and find a bug, definately send me email.  If you can get your
PPP connection to work (i.e. you can PING other hosts), but can't get
LXPPP to work, please send me email and I'll try to help you.  If you
can't get your PPP connection to work, then please contact the author
of the dosppp package, or your ISP.  If you have no luck with them,
then post your problem to the HP/LX mailing and someone will probably
help you out.

When LXPPP is stable, I will submit it to the S.U.P.E.R. site (where
it will join my ExmBatch package, which also includes source code).

-- Rod Whitby (rwhitby@geocities.com)
-- Web: <http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/>

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:33:43 +1030
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Version 2.1 of the Palmtop News Reader (PNR) is now available as a
companion package to the HP200LX PPP Development Kit (LXPPP) and can
be downloaded from:

        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/download.html

See my previous message on LXPPP for more details.

Note that if you are not using LXPPP for your PPP connectivity, then
this new version of PNR is of no use to you - stay with version 1.2
until you get with the times and use PPP :-)

Here is the message from the Michael J. Leaver (the original author of
the Palmtop News Reader) which "blesses" my release of a modified PNR
- check out the comment about the HP320LX :-)

> From: "Micky J." <mickyj@pacific.net.sg>
> To: "'Rod Whitby'" <rwhitby@asc.sps.mot.com>
> Subject: RE: Modifications to PNR
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:31:54 +0800
>
> Hi Rod,
>
> Yeah, this is the correct address. I've got a HP320LX now, not a
> HP200LX, so I don't make any modifications to it myself. The
> 320 is useless and I wonder why I bothered changing. Don't
> buy one!
>
> Best thing for you to do is patch the code and release it
> under your name as I'm not in a position to do it myself.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what are the patches for?
>
> Thanks,
> Mick

-- Rod Whitby (rwhitby@geocities.com)
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.SPS.MOT.COM>
Aan: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Datum: dinsdag 10 februari 1998 11:13
Onderwerp: PNR 2.1: Palmtop News Reader (now with LXPPP support)


Version 2.1 of the Palmtop News Reader (PNR) is now available as a
companion package to the HP200LX PPP Development Kit (LXPPP) and can
be downloaded from:

        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/download.html

See my previous message on LXPPP for more details.

Note that if you are not using LXPPP for your PPP connectivity, then
this new version of PNR is of no use to you - stay with version 1.2
until you get with the times and use PPP :-)


Where can one find LXPPP? Sounds interesting

Regards

Frank

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Subject:      Re: Visal Basic DOS

On 1998-02-08 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >>is someone kmow where I can find Visual Basic?
   >I have a copy that I can email to you.  Still interested?
   >Yi
   >--------------------------------------------

Does it qualify as abandonware. If so, let's party!


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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On 1998-02-09 anborg@EAGLE.SEED.NET.TW said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Dear Friends of Art,
   >> >
   >> >   It is with great sadness that I have to tell you that Art
   >>died on  > Saturday February 7, 1998 at 8:00am in Kaohsiung/Taiwan.
   >>On July of 1996  > he was diagnosed as having Chronic Obstructive

snip

I feel a strange loss. A loss for someone that existed only as virtual
messages to me but was a real person. It's funny how easy it is to
forget that your communicating in this forum with real people who have
real lives. I guess that's what makes it so easy to flame. We forget
that there's a real person out there. It takes an event like this to
remind us.

I had few direct communications with Art but, judging from what I've
read from him, he was a genuine enthusiast. Let's hold our virtual hats
over our hearts and raise a virtual glass to our fallen comrade.











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      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:06:08 -0700
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Subject:      Re: E-text files (Some good reading out there!)

Just wanted to chime in on this. I have read several freely available
Etext books. VR is an excellent way to read books on the palmtop and is
way smaller than a paperback (Thanks, Gilles!).

My personal Reccommendations:

Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling (Moderm, non-fiction)
Frankenstein by Mary Shelly (very different from the early movies)
Dracula by Bram Stoker (Large but very good.)
The Time Machine by H.G. Wells

and just about anything written by Mark Twain!
( "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" is hilarious!)


Just search the web for "project guttenberg". There at least a dozen
mirror sites.


On 1998-02-09 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >A great number of E-texts are available in standard ASCII format
   >from Something called the Glutinburg Project.  (I'm sure I
   >misspelled that). They have a web page at an address like that also.
   >When I say a "great" many, I mean in excess of a thousand documents.
   >The HP200LX with an add-in program called VR (Vertical Reader) is
   >an excellent place to stash and read this stuff.
   >Phil
   >>----------
   >>Sent:  Monday, February 09, 1998 1:06 PM
   >>A friend of mine just recently purchased a (gonna take a chance)
   >>PalmPilot.
   >>He was showing me some of the many E-texts available in a *.PRC
   >>file format.
   >>Does anyone know if there is a utility to view/search these from
   >>the HP200lx?
   >>Does anyone know the characteristics of these files?  Thaet appear
   >>to be graphic files
   >>that allow for searching, viewing and perhaps editing.
   >>Bradley Johnson
   >>x4552
   >>bjohnson@platsoft.com
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      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:06:16 -0700
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On 1998-02-09 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:
   >> You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).
   >No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.

Wrong! After the "Police Academy" guy. ;->
           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
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Yi Wang wrote:
>
> From: Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
> >is someone kmow where I can find Visual Basic?
>
> I have a copy that I can email to you.  Still interested?
>
>         Yi
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Yes?  Thanks in advance!

                        Brenda

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:54:23 -0500
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The appts.ini file contains a list of phrases that are displayed as part of your daily greeting.

You will find an appts.ini file in your d: drive with 200LX helpful hints.  Copy this file to your c:\_dat
directory and one of these hints will be displayed each morning, if your daily greeting is activated.

You can replace these 200LX hints with quotes, goals, or anything else you would like.  Just use the same
format and be sure to change the total number of hints at the beginning of the file.

In the lines before and after the list of hints you will see two lines containing:

;  =                                              ~                                              ~

The ~ show where you should break the lines in the phrases.  Simply insert ~ in your phrases as line breaks in
these locations.  You are limited to 3 lines per daily greeting.

--- On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:24:43 -0800  Phil Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

>How do the appt.ini files work?
>I just created appointments directly.

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              Larry Berry <lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL>
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To the list,

I wish to express my thanks for the unbelievably
rapid response to my question regarding the copying
of database records.  When I returned with my coffee
the answer was on my machine.  To bad I can't pose
my AMI BIOS questions to this list.

Thanks,



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Comments: To: Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>

Text of message from jsaklad@WELCHLINK..., 9 Feb 1998, 04:31 PM
> On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
> > You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).
>
> No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.
>

You're both right.  The first major undertaking of Gutenberg when he
invented the press was to print Bibles.

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Hans Ganzfleisch de Sulgelock

from http://tribune-review.com/features/bly0525.html

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Alex,

I would also be interested in what AI buy/share/free-ware works on the
200LX.  I don't think this an off-topic subject.  There may well be
others interested in this also.

Could you give a quick rundown on individual programs you've tested, and
what you've found to be their limitations?

Stephen Ward



Alex Arancio wrote:
>
> Phil,
>
> I run quite a bit of AI stuff on my HP200LX 2MB. Are you looking for a bare
> bones Expert System shell, an expert system generation program (actually
> creates a AI/ES shell in Pascal which can be compiled and run stand alone.),
> or something in the Fuzzy Logic systems arena?
>
> I'm not a programmer...just fasinated by AI and the HP, so I've attempted in
> many ways to come up with "ideas" on how to marry the two marvels. I've tested
> a lot of stuff on the HP, so I'll be able to help you out a bit more. Most of
> the stuff I have is Shareware, so I'm happy to send it to you.
>

<snip>

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Is the only choice in notetaker for tabs to setup a macro for spaces?

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I just wanted to tell everyone the experence that I have had with NSW and
Marcan Dist.  It shows that they do want to support and take care of their
customers.

I wrote Marcan Dist the following.

About 3 weeks ago I ordered a memory upgrade from NSW.  I installed it in my
200lx 2 meg with no problem and was pleased with the ease of installation.
About 2 days after the installation I noticed that my NiCad batteries were low
so I recharged them.  The next day in the evening turned on the LX and there
was a line running thru the screen and it went into a hard reboot.  When it
had finished rebooting I noticed that the batteries were low again so I put in
my set of backup bateries.  Over the weekend I turned on the machine and those
bateries were low and so was the backup battery. I decided to remove the
memory upgrade and now the battery life is like it was before the upgrade.  I
reinstalled the upgrade this week with the same results.  Is this normal or is
there a problem with the installation or memory module?

Thanks for the info
Mike Irwin

They wrote me back

Mike,

There is a problem with the module.  The last batch of 50 modules
received by NSW had a defect.  Actually, the assembly house admitted to
having the "ovens" on at nearly twice the required temperature.
Basically, they fried all the chips during the assembly process.

I have spoken with NSW and they requested that you send the module back
immediately and they will replace it with a new one.

They talked to NSW a second time and had them send the module the same day.  I
now have a working memory module with normal battery life.

Thanks to  Marcan and NSW
Thought you might like to know

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Mike W. Irwin wrote:

> Is the only choice in notetaker for tabs to setup a macro for spaces?

I'm not sure I understand the question. Tabs work in NoteTaker when you're
in Note mode (F3).

- Longden

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try this site for all you ever wanted to know about agenda.

http://ftp.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/Agenda/technotes/
tx roy

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:12:41 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Press F3, so that you're in the Notes field (full screen) - Tabs and zoom
work there, just like the text editor (Memo).

Another alternative is to write your file in an editor, then import it
(using insert - F3, from within the full-screen notes).  But, to view it
properly, you need to switch to the full notes screen again.

At 12:31 PM 2/10/98 EST, you wrote:
>Is the only choice in notetaker for tabs to setup a macro for spaces?
>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:24:39 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Daily Greetings
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* How do the appt.ini files work? I just created appointments directly.

The appts.ini file is not an appointment. This file simply refers to the
Daily Greeting feature that pops up in the Appointment application.

You might have noticed that everyday, at a specific time, a Daily Greeting
pops up telling you the To Dos and Appointments you have for the day. At
the bottom of this screen, is an area that can hold any information you
would like. The HP comes with an Appts.ini file which lists Hints and
Tricks of the HP. Assuming you keep the same file structure, you can change
these items to be anything you like. For instance, I have an appt.ini file
which is filled with Daily Affirmation from Deepak Chopra.

Someone else responded to you with the proper file structure for an
appts.ini. Give it a try, and let us know what you come up with.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:25:13 -0800
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I found out what my problem was thanks to Steen. It wasn't a case of what
files I needed but instead it was a case of what files I did'nt need.

worksone.scn, worksone.ctx, worksone.sob
workstwo.scn, workstwo.ctx, workstwo.sob
worksthr.scn, worksthr.ctx, worksthr.sob

The above files are all for color. So I just deleted them and then the B&W
and LCD settings appeared under the Screen Color settings menu in Works
Settings. Strange!

Thanks for all your help,

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:34:40 -0500
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* Is the only choice in notetaker for tabs to setup a macro for spaces?

TABS will work like a dream if you happen to be in the NOTE mode of a
notetaker entry. That means you must press <F3> and enter the note from the
full screen note view.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:59:48 -0500
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Subject:      Re: AI on the HP200LX... Ý?¨
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* Could you give a quick rundown on individual programs you've tested, and
what you've found to be their limitations?

1. X-Mind Beta Version 1.0.04, March, 1995
Written by Oleg Dulin   CIS ID# 71743,312
        This is a forward/back-propagation expert system which is supposed to
learn from the answers you give it and store this info in *.MND files. It
is clumsy and limited in its ability to adapt to real-time applications
without a lot of time and thought. (I have no time to think!)

2. PXG - The Pascal Expert Generator Version 1.1, October 6, 1985
Written by Samuel H. Smith (address unknown-from CIS I think)
This is a nifty little program that works great on the HP. From the .DOC
file, "You teach the expert by repeatedly "learning" new facts in the
interactive learn mode. When you have your rules working properly, PXG will
generate a stand-alone expert program in Turbo Pascal".  You can then
compile the program if you wish.  I don't have a Tpascal compiler, so I
haven't tried it. This is menu driven, easy to use, and comes with decent
docs and example files. I would love to trade a Tpascal compiler for a copy
of it, but since this is PD, I will be happy to send anyone a copy of the
PXG.ARC file.

3. ES Expert System, Version 1.0, October 1990
Written by Eric Summers, 127 Hopeland Lane, Sterling, VA 22170
This is a Knowledge base development system which uses Fuzzy Logic along
with back and forward propagation. Docs are excellent, thorough, and give
basic information to the novice.  Will run on the HP, but requires
SYSMANGER shut down. Also comes with sample knowledge bases (*.KB files).

4. Fuzzy File Find (c) 1991-1995, PMSI, Paris, France
Not sure where I got this one. Not so small (32,060) but is a great little
(fast) tool for finding files on your HP. Uses fuzzy logic rules to search
for files. Don't know much more than that.

Well, that's about all I can think of right now (at least that is all that
I have loaded and use today). I've tried a lot of other stuff, but it is
too technical and useless to the typical Palmtop user. And since just about
everything is too technical to me, I'd rather not get too deep lest I sound
like a fool.

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-----Original Message-----
From:   Stephen Ward ÝSMTP:sward@flash.net¨
Sent:   Tuesday, February 10, 1998 1:14 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: AI on the HP200LX... Ý?¨

Alex,

I would also be interested in what AI buy/share/free-ware works on the
200LX.  I don't think this an off-topic subject.  There may well be
others interested in this also.


Stephen Ward



Alex Arancio wrote:
>
> Phil,
>
> I run quite a bit of AI stuff on my HP200LX 2MB. Are you looking for a
bare
> bones Expert System shell, an expert system generation program (actually
> creates a AI/ES shell in Pascal which can be compiled and run stand
alone.),
> or something in the Fuzzy Logic systems arena?
>
> I'm not a programmer...just fasinated by AI and the HP, so I've attempted
in
> many ways to come up with "ideas" on how to marry the two marvels. I've
tested
> a lot of stuff on the HP, so I'll be able to help you out a bit more.
Most of
> the stuff I have is Shareware, so I'm happy to send it to you.
>

<snip>

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:01:49 -0500
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Phil, I just posted on the list a ....list of AI related software that I
use on my Palmtop. If you have any further questions, please drop me a
line.

Alex Arancio
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:51:31 +0000
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              Christof <earl@WOHNHEIM.WAD.ORG>
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Does anyone know of a program that handles deterministic finite
automaton (DFA), non-deterministic finite automaton (NFA) and
similar problems ?

Any help appreciated !

Regards,
Christof
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:15:15 -0700
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The Gutenberg press was an amazing development, and allowed the mass production
of literature of all kinds, and was in my opinion one of the most important
indicators of the end of the Dark Ages.  It expanded the availability of the
sum of human knowledge, and contributed greatly to the sharing of ideas, and
the protection of knowledge (more copies makes a document less likely to be
lost.)
The edition of the bible produced on those first presses became known as the
Gutenberg Bible, and its production was one of the most important religious
events in history.  Until then, your average person, or even your average
scholar, could never dream of actually OWNING a copy of the Bible.  Suddenly,
nearly anyone who could read could learn from the Bible directly.  This
unfiltered individual interpretation of scripture led in a very significant way
to the fragmentation of the Roman Catholic Church, the rise of other churches,
and the separation of church and state in most Western countries.
        So, anyway, you are both right, it is the press process and the Bible.

On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> You're looking for Project Gutenberg (after the Bible).

No, after the inventor of the movable-type printing process.

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>The Gutenberg press was an amazing development, and allowed the mass
production
>of literature of all kinds, and was in my opinion one of the most important
>indicators of the end of the Dark Ages.  It expanded the availability of
the
>sum of human knowledge, and contributed greatly to the sharing of ideas,
and


snip

Hmm... Strange how history draws parallels. It would seem that the same
could be said about digital networks. We are, however, slightly off topic
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:00:40 EST
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     I am sorry for the lateness of my response, but I ran the test suggested
by Longden Loo on my two flash cards using both my 100 LX and my 200 LX.  The
power cord was connected and "flash.bat" was on the card.
Here's my results:

200lx  (Stacker  version 3.0, 8 MB and double speed upgrade)
   20 MB HP flash card   50 sec (average) for 1 mg read/write
   128 MB Pretec flash card 41 sec

100lx  (Stacker version 3.0, 2 MB)
   20 MB HP flash card 87 sec average
    128 MB Pretec flash card 79 sec average
    The 128 MB Pretec flash card worked faster in both machines.  Since my 200
LX is fully upgraded the results on that machine are faster.  The 128 MB
Pretec card is about 9 seconds faster on either machine.
    I know some negative comments have been posted about Pretec's card.  Right
now, for me, their card is working better.  Their card reader (internal) is
also supposed to run with Windows 95, my current one requires some work to
have that happen.  It also doesn't read their card.
    Jean F. Feldman, DVM
    Hamburg, NY

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:24:05 -0700
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I wonder why he changed it?

Bryan Pearson

Subject:        Gutenberg's real name

Hans Ganzfleisch de Sulgelock

from http://tribune-review.com/features/bly0525.html

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:59:28 EST
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You know what, I forgot that there was the full note option.  I've been an HP
user from the HP41, 75 days and one of the things that I am always saying is
how feature rich the products are.  My problem is that you get so used to
using the LX in a certain way that you forget some of the features.

Thanks
Mike Irwin

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:11:29 -0800
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              Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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More and more frequently, my HP100LX doesn't seem to recognize when I press
a key.  I haven't localized this behaviour to any specific keys since it
_seems_ to happen to all of them.  Does this sound like it needs a cleaning
or is there a hardware/software problem rearing its ugly head?


...lars

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:56:34 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Contrast on 200LX display?
Comments: To: Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>

Dear all,

I use Rain-X on my screen. Very good in preventing finger prints,
smudges and the type of daily stuffs that usually gets attracted to a
clean screen. Advertises not to attack plastics,etc which is what
precisely the polarising filter that is layered on top of the lcd is
made of.


---
C P Wong
+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| cpwong@tm.net.my   | C P Wong                                      |
| cpwong@acer.com.my | Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia                        |
| cpwong@w3xs.com    | Using D-Mail v2.3 on HP200LX                  |
+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------+

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:54:42 -0800
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In your timing tests, did you have the 20 MB stacked? Did you
also have the 128MB Pretec stacked?

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:10:21 -0500
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Ok...I've been reading this forum for several months now and I refuse to
believe that you can't connect the Windows 95 Laplink with the Laplink that
is on the HP200LX.  I know that the HPLX uses the "SIR" protocol that is
NOT compatible with the IRDA drivers of Laplink.  So why isn't there a
compatible set of drivers for either the SIR protocol on Laplink 95 for
Windows OR an IRDA driver for the HPLX????  Can't seem to find a common set
of drivers.  What about the "Jeteye" drivers?  Has anyone tried those?

Anyone have any luck with file transfers using Laplink 95 and the HPLX?   I
have used Transfile and I'm not very happy with its performance.

Thanks,
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Carmel, IN
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:12:56 -0500
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I am attempting an ambitious project of running a National Instruments
DAQ700 card on a HP200lx - I'm not sure if this is even possible, but am
keen to try. The current problem is installing the supplied "Cardware"
software (Award Software Inc.) to drive the card. In the generic
installation option, for correct socket service, it asks if the PCMCIA
controller is a

1) Toshiba TPP163
2) Intel 82365SL 9PCIC0, cIRRUS lOGIC pd6710/6720, Vadem 465, or Toshiba ToPIC
3) Intel PHIC, or
4) Databook DB82086

? Which option is correct, or closest to the HP? Or none of the above?

Also, I assume that to load the supplied software, I need to disable the
default Card Installation Client TSR, cic100.exe - is this true? I've tried
a number of different set-ups without success.

Any ideas/suggestions appreciated.

Doric Swain.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:58:52 -0500
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:
: 1) Toshiba TPP163
: 2) Intel 82365SL 9PCIC0, cIRRUS lOGIC pd6710/6720, Vadem 465, or Toshiba
ToPIC
: 3) Intel PHIC, or
: 4) Databook DB82086
:
: ? Which option is correct, or closest to the HP? Or none of the above?
:

Unfortunately, its "none of the above". These are all PCMCIA v2.1
compatible controllers, and the HP is pre v2.0 of the spec, so there are
some incompatibilities. Add to that system manager's insistence on owning
all the memory windows while its running, and you've got quite a
non-standard mess to deal with.

: Also, I assume that to load the supplied software, I need to disable the
: default Card Installation Client TSR, cic100.exe - is this true? I've
tried
: a number of different set-ups without success.
:

No. CIC100 will only go into action on cards it recognizes, and yours won't
be one of them.

: Any ideas/suggestions appreciated.
:

Give up :-) no seriously, if you want to get it to work, you've got to
write your own interface. If you're going to write your own application
level code, then you're not too bad, in that all you require is the spec
for the card, ie. how much memory and IO space does it require, and is it
8bit IO or 16bit IO. You could use that info to set up the PCMCIA
controller appropriately yourself, and then your app could just start
reading raw data from the card. If you want to run an already created app,
then you also have to know what the app was expecting.... not an easy job,
in any case.

: Doric Swain.

rick
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<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman">: <br>: 1) Toshiba =
TPP163<br>: 2) Intel 82365SL 9PCIC0, cIRRUS lOGIC pd6710/6720, Vadem =
465, or Toshiba ToPIC<br>: 3) Intel PHIC, or<br>: 4) Databook =
DB82086<br>: <br>: ? Which option is correct, or closest to the HP? Or =
none of the above?<br>: <br><br>Unfortunately, its &quot;none of the =
above&quot;. These are all PCMCIA v2.1 compatible controllers, and the =
HP is pre v2.0 of the spec, so there are some incompatibilities. Add to =
that system manager's insistence on owning all the memory windows while =
its running, and you've got quite a non-standard mess to deal =
with.<br><br>: Also, I assume that to load the supplied software, I need =
to disable the<br>: default Card Installation Client TSR, cic100.exe - =
is this true? I've tried<br>: a number of different set-ups without =
success.<br>: <br><br>No. CIC100 will only go into action on cards it =
recognizes, and yours won't be one of them.<br><br>: Any =
ideas/suggestions appreciated.<br>: <br><br>Give up :-) no seriously, if =
you want to get it to work, you've got to write your own interface. If =
you're going to write your own application level code, then you're not =
too bad, in that all you require is the spec for the card, ie. how much =
memory and IO space does it require, and is it 8bit IO or 16bit IO. You =
could use that info to set up the PCMCIA controller appropriately =
yourself, and then your app could just start reading raw data from the =
card. If you want to run an already created app, then you also have to =
know what the app was expecting.... not an easy job, in any =
case.<br><br>: Doric Swain.<br><br>rick</p>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:49:56 EST
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  Both the 20 MB HP card and the 128MB Pretec card are stacked using stacpalm
(stacker version 3.0).  I have all my clients (1100+) and all their animals
(3000+) with two years of history for each animal on each card.  That's the
"why" for using stacker.   Jean

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Pearson <bryan@ONYXGFX.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Gutenberg's real name


>I wonder why he changed it?
>
>Bryan Pearson
>
>>Subject:        Gutenberg's real name
>>
>>Hans Ganzfleisch de Sulgelock
>>
>>from http://tribune-review.com/features/bly0525.html
>>


Maybe his real name wouldn't fit on the cover.


David

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I have an odd serial port question. On my office computer, whenever
I plug in my serial connector to m HP200LX, the unit comes on
automatically. I haven't observed this behaviour on my home computer.
Is there some power-on signal available on the serial port connector?

-Chris Lott

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Huntsville, Alabama 35805
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Hi,

        Boy am I embarresed to ask this one.  I can't find my HP flash card
manual.  Can anyone tell me how to get stacker on to my new 200LX?  I
ran sinstall.exe which copied the Stacker <dir> to the C drive.  The new
machine does not recognize the stacked files on the card.  The following
are the only files that show on the E drive: readme.stc, sinstall.exe,
stacker.drv, stacker.exe, and stackpalm.exe.  Normally I would just go
for it with the exe files but I have three years and 18 meg of stacked
data I don't want to loose.  Thanks in advance.

Colin

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I've never plugged my 200LX to my 'puter at work, but mine does come on
when I hook it up to my "big" machine at home. I always assumed that it
would come on no matter what it was plugged into, but now that I think
about it the "big" machine must be sending current (voltage) via the com
port.

Jeff


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I have noticed that when the TSR for ABC/LX "kicks in" and does it thing
that it turns the power to the Com 1 port on. Is there a way to keep this
from happening? I searched the manual, but couldn't find any info
regarding this.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:40:19 -0800
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Hi I have seen a few messages in the past regarding running GEOS on the
200LX. Could someone give me a little more info on this. I have Ensemble
2.0. I recently tried to run Ensemble under Win 95 but after getting
everything installed it wouldn't run ( kept coming up with a "no
suitable font found in Userdata/fonts" error) - this really wasn't a
problem since I just loaded it in order to move it to the HP's flash
card. My questions are;

1)Has anyone got this to work
2) Is it worth trying
3) What do I need in my config and autoexec
4) Other than copying everything over to the flash what else do I need
to do ?

Thanks to everyone for the help,
Brian H

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:09:31 EST
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Subject:      Re: Serial Port Question

> I have an odd serial port question. On my office computer, whenever
> I plug in my serial connector to m HP200LX, the unit comes on
> automatically. I haven't observed this behaviour on my home computer.
> Is there some power-on signal available on the serial port connector?
>
> -Chris Lott
>

That is a function of Advanced Power Management that is part of the BIOS of
most computers made in the last couple of years. If you look in your setup
program you will find a place where that is configured. Basically the
system watches for a serial port interrupt, when one occurs the system
wakes up to process the incoming characters. The act of plugging in the
cable from the 200 is causing noise that is interpreted by the serial port
hardware as valid input so the system wakes up. The idea behind this is
that you can have your system automatically suspend and it will still be
able to answer incoming calls from a modem connected to the serial port.
This same mechanism also wakes up the system if you move your serial mouse,
if you have a bus or ps/2 mouse then it is handled in a similar but
slightly different way.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
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Tidewater Community College

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:22:39 -0700
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     Hi!
     Sure do and I got your fix.
     Edit your GEOS.ini file go to Ýsystem¨ category and add or change:
     fs=ms4.geo
     That will fix your problem. Mine works good under Windows95. But if
     you use disk compression it will never work.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-bwh (bwh@netzone.com) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    2/10/98 9:40 PM


Hi I have seen a few messages in the past regarding running GEOS on the
200LX. Could someone give me a little more info on this. I have Ensemble
2.0. I recently tried to run Ensemble under Win 95 but after getting
everything installed it wouldn't run ( kept coming up with a "no
suitable font found in Userdata/fonts" error) - this really wasn't a
problem since I just loaded it in order to move it to the HP's flash
card. My questions are;

1)Has anyone got this to work
2) Is it worth trying
3) What do I need in my config and autoexec
4) Other than copying everything over to the flash what else do I need
to do ?

Thanks to everyone for the help,
Brian H

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After learning about printing, the Bible and advanced power mangement
over the past few days, I beginning to wonder if there are any questions
that can't be answered by list members :) Who needs an encyclopedia,
hehehe :)

Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:28:21 -0700
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     Hi!
     I just did the same thing on my Windows NT 4.0 machine but my 200LX
     did not come on. I even re booted, still my 200LX is sleeping.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-jeffj (jeffj@SCOTT.NET) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    2/10/98 8:12 PM


I've never plugged my 200LX to my 'puter at work, but mine does come on
when I hook it up to my "big" machine at home. I always assumed that it
would come on no matter what it was plugged into, but now that I think
about it the "big" machine must be sending current (voltage) via the com
port.

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:05:05 EST
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In a message dated 98-02-10 07:06:14 EST, epadin@WAGWEB.COM writes:

 I had few direct communications with Art but, judging from what I've
 read from him, he was a genuine enthusiast. Let's hold our virtual hats
 over our hearts and raise a virtual glass to our fallen comrade. >>


AMEN


Dennis

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Chris:

> I have an odd serial port question. On my office computer, whenever
> I plug in my serial connector to m HP200LX, the unit comes on
> automatically. I haven't observed this behaviour on my home computer.
> Is there some power-on signal available on the serial port connector?

The serial port has that ability to wake up the palmtop from
sleep when a signal comes in. It is used by various
applications to record measurements, remote activations, etc.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:15:47 -0800
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That's exactly what happens when you have people with such diverse
interests tied together by a common 'tool'.  But I couldn't help but detect
a little (fun) sarcasm of the southern variety!  Having been raised in the
south (also?), I do know what it looks like (and sometimes you can't help
stepping it).  Ain't it fun!?

<on soap-box> BTW, I didn't intend to raise such a ruckus with the word
'Bible'.  BUT, now that its been brought up, I was in college (the eyes of
Texas are upon you) for 14-something years (maybe some of us are slower
than others), and what I've found out is that the more I learn, the more I
realize how much I *DON'T* know. <off soap-box>

At 10:24 PM 2/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>After learning about printing, the Bible and advanced power mangement
>over the past few days, I beginning to wonder if there are any questions
>that can't be answered by list members :) Who needs an encyclopedia,
>hehehe :)
>
>Jeff
>
>
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I'm looking for a PC Card Modem for my HP200LX.  My biggest concern is
the drain on the battery.  I tried a Megahertz card some time ago and
it killed my battery is seconds.  Is there a card that will go lite on
my batteries?  I'm not looking to surf the net, just download email.

Where would be the best place to look?

Don.
Sacramento, CA

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Thanks for the post re Plugpwr the other day. I talked to them and they
do have an international version that will work with the HP200LX, with
input of 85V-245V.

This would be great for traveling - home and abroad (220 Volts)

However, what I would REALLY like to find is an adapter with that input,
AND multiple outputs, so that I could eliminate (replace) about 20
transformers that are kicking around. (I need to power things like my
pcmcia type III adapter for hard drives, floppy drive, etc. etc.)

I bought a CHEAP 1000 MA "made in China" transformer that did all of the
above, but input was not automatic. Sure enough, I forgot to switch to
220 volts and plugged it in in France. POP! Of course I knew better. I
had to plug in the electrical adapter to connect it. The other trouble
was the lack of regulation and very unclean power.

Has anyone run across my ideal power adapter?

If so, I would certainly appreciate being pointed to it.

Thanks,

Bob

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>>Hans Ganzfleisch de Sulgelock
>I wonder why he changed it?
>Maybe his real name wouldn't fit on the cover.

Nearly right - it wouldn't fit on the little brass nameplate!

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I think you have to use an a/c adaptor for most (if not all) PC Card
Modems.  I use the EXP ThinFAX 1414LXM modem.  It's specifically made
for HP100lx and 200lx computers.  It is available with up to 8 mB flash
ram (I have 4.)  Some small amount of ram is configured as an a: drive.
The rest comes up as a higher letter (g: in my case).  This can be used
for large downloads since most of your "disk space" has been removed to
install the modem.

The EXP modem seems to work very well.  It did take several tries to get
both a modem card and a cable that worked, but their service was
helpful.

Donald Collins wrote:

> I'm looking for a PC Card Modem for my HP200LX.  My biggest concern is
>
> the drain on the battery.  I tried a Megahertz card some time ago and
> it killed my battery is seconds.  Is there a card that will go lite on
>
> my batteries?  I'm not looking to surf the net, just download email.
>
> Where would be the best place to look?
>
> Don.
> Sacramento, CA
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:59:30 -0400
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On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 11:02:52 -1, Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL> =
wrote:

12> As far as I know, the phone app. will NOT work with modified
12> phone-databases. Anyone... Please tell me I'm wrong and let me know =
how to
12> do this.

Yes, you are wrong Bas :-) I use a modified phone database myself and
had no problems using or creating it. Just open the databage
application, load in your *.pdb file and use the modify database
command just as you would for a native database file. The same rules
apply.

The only downside i've noticed is with progs that access the phonebook
directly - such as MiniFax. However as long as the 'fax number' field
appears in the same position as in the default file (ie: it is usually
the fifth field), minifax will not complain. <g> I can't remember for
sure but i believe the same happens with the smart modular fax prog -
bitfax...

PS: The Trinidad prime minister's first name is Basdeo and he is
better know as 'Bas' so i have to try to remember which one i'm
addressing... :-)

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On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 23:15:36 GMT, Neil Tungate <neil@skipper.demon.co.uk> =
wrote:

ne> Is anyone else still taking comp.sys.palmtops?  There is so little HP =
stuff
ne> in there now that I've been considering dropping it, and today my =
mind was
ne> made up for me by some idiot posting enormous binaries of cracked =
WinCE
ne> software.

Neil, i still follow it and on my lx as well but only grab msgs two or
three times a month. I have no problems with threads that don't
interest me nor excessively long posts (which include binary posts)
because i filter everything. Just yesterday i logged on and my
newsreader started retrieving the 244 msgs that arrived since my last
logon. When it was thru there were only 120 msgs for me to read and
very few of them will contain winCE threads, i assure you. <g>
Actually the number should be more like 75 because i wrongly set one
of the filters. Also, _none_ of them will be longer than 75 lines
because i told it to refuse such msgs. What's even better is that i
actually get to see which msgs are being skipped and i'm told the
reason why if i pay attention to the download process!

Okay so you wonder: what software does all this? Post/LX of course :-)

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:47:36 -0600
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> Chris:
>
> > I have an odd serial port question. On my office computer, whenever
> > I plug in my serial connector to m HP200LX, the unit comes on
> > automatically. I haven't observed this behaviour on my home computer.
> > Is there some power-on signal available on the serial port connector?
>
> The serial port has that ability to wake up the palmtop from
> sleep when a signal comes in. It is used by various
> applications to record measurements, remote activations, etc.

Do you know which signal does this? I don't think it's the serial
data lines themselves, since my home computer doesn't exibit this
behaviour. I suspect one of the handshaking lines, perhaps one that
is active on my office computer but not at home.

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:53:09 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Serial Port Question
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> > I have an odd serial port question. On my office computer, whenever
> > I plug in my serial connector to m HP200LX, the unit comes on
> > automatically. I haven't observed this behaviour on my home computer.
> > Is there some power-on signal available on the serial port connector?

> That is a function of Advanced Power Management that is part of the BIOS of
> most computers made in the last couple of years. If you look in your setup
> program you will find a place where that is configured. Basically the ...
> Ý--SNIP--¨

Pete:

I may not have made my question clear. I meant to say that my
*palmtop* powers on automatically whenever I plug in my serial port
connector to my office computer, not that my office computer powers
on. I believe your reply was addressing features on my desktop
computer, but if not, please correct me... Also, it appears from what
another poster tell me that the palmtop does have some sort of wakeup
provision, not unlike what you described.

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 05:57:09 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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> Is anyone else still taking comp.sys.palmtops?  There is so little HP stuff
> in there now that I've been considering dropping it, and today my mind was
> made up for me by some idiot posting enormous binaries of cracked WinCE
> software.

I check in on it every once in a while for comic relief.

Neil, your thread on the WinCE pirate was interesting. The crowd there is
a testy lot aren't they?

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:20:24 -0800
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Subject:      Re: pcmcia modem
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> I'm looking for a PC Card Modem for my HP200LX.  My biggest concern is
> the drain on the battery.  I tried a Megahertz card some time ago and
> it killed my battery is seconds.  Is there a card that will go lite on
> my batteries?  I'm not looking to surf the net, just download email.

I use 2 Megahertz modems on a regular basis without a significant hit on
the batteries (tho I know 'significant' is relative). Anything over 14.4k
is usually suspect, so this includes most 28.8k+ modems (tho there are
exceptions, such as the Simple Tech 33.6 Communicator reviewed by another
poster).

Even 14.4k modems have a wide power variation, and my first 14.4k was an
ATT modem that just ate my batteries in a few minutes.

With either of the Megahertz however, I can typically download
email/newgroups for at least 15 min and not see much of a drop in the
voltage of my NiMH/NiCads.

Could be that the problem you had is related to the model (which one did
you have?) or maybe a defective modem. I use the XJ1144 and the XJ3144,
the latter is the cellular version (tho I don't ever use it in my cell
phone).

Someone posted on this list several days ago about selling $25 14.4
Megahertz modems. You may want to search the list archives...but I don't
recall that he/she mentioned the model number of the modem. I seem to
recall someone mentioning problems with XJ2144 (a long time ago).

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:20:34 -0800
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Don:

The faster the modem, the more power hungry it is. I use a
2400 Megahertz and sips a mere 35mAh - easily within my
batteries' ability to provide. But it is slow. When I use a
14.4 the consumptions are generally in the 120-150mAh and
more. Batteries usually can take one or two brief sessions if
they are fresh! By brief I mean less than a minute. Highly
recommended to use adapter.

Faster modems which exceed 150mAh cannot even function in the
palmtop which supplies only 150mAh to the PCMCIA chassis.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:27:42 -0800
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On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 bobv@SOS.NET wrote:

> However, what I would REALLY like to find is an adapter with that input,
> AND multiple outputs, so that I could eliminate (replace) about 20
> transformers that are kicking around. (I need to power things like my
> pcmcia type III adapter for hard drives, floppy drive, etc. etc.)

I think the problem there is the possibility of plugging the wrong output
setting into your LX and hearing the LX go 'pop'.

Considering that there's no adapter that can know what output setting to
use automagically, caution may be the price for convenience.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:42:48 +1900
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Subject:      Daily Greetings

 HP>Date:    Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:54:23 -0500
 HP>The appts.ini file contains a list of phrases that are displayed as
 HP>part of your daily greeting. You will find an appts.ini file in
 HP>your d: drive with 200LX helpful hints.  Copy this file to your
 HP>c:\_dat directory and one of these hints will be displayed each
 HP>morning, if your daily greeting is activated. You can replace these
 HP>200LX hints with quotes, goals, or anything else you would like.
 HP>Just use the same format and be sure to change the total number of
 HP>hints at the beginning of the file. In the lines before and after
 HP>the list of hints you will see two lines containing: ;
 HP>~                                              ~ The ~ show where
 HP>>you should break the lines in the phrases.  Simply insert ~ in
 HP>>your phrases as line breaks in these locations.  You are limited
 HP>to 3 lines per daily greeting. --- On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:24:43
 HP>-0800  Phil Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote: How do the appt.ini
 HP>files work?
This appts.ini file cannot be found on the 100LX. Is there a possibility to
change the 100LX setup in order to make use of these daily greetings thing?
Second question:
Having the Connectivety pack I know that in the phone book there is a data
card visible in my desktop view of the phone book. Is there a possibility to

show this also on my 100LX?
Dawn: the time when men of reason go to bed.

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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              BDK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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I think that you are pretty much limited to 14.4 modems
if you want to run on batteries.

The lowest power modem that I've found so far is the
Megahertz 14.4 XJ2144 modem. I can stay connected for
about 45 minutes with a fresh set of alkalines. I'd be interested
in reports of battery life with other modems. You can find
the XJ2144 modem used for about, say,   $30. It also has
one of those nice X-Jack (tm) connectors that pops out instead
of the mess of attached cords. (Just don't forget to take
a phone cable with you in case you can't detach the phone
cable from the phone in your hotel; I've been in that spot).
You may find that you need a RAM upgrade in your HP200
to run your particular application with the modem in and your
flash card out!


-Bryan


Steven R. Wisotsky wrote:

> I think you have to use an a/c adaptor for most (if not all) PC Card
> Modems.  I use the EXP ThinFAX 1414LXM modem.  It's specifically made
> for HP100lx and 200lx computers.  It is available with up to 8 mB flash
> ram (I have 4.)  Some small amount of ram is configured as an a: drive.
> The rest comes up as a higher letter (g: in my case).  This can be used
> for large downloads since most of your "disk space" has been removed to
> install the modem.
>
> The EXP modem seems to work very well.  It did take several tries to get
> both a modem card and a cable that worked, but their service was
> helpful.
>
> Donald Collins wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a PC Card Modem for my HP200LX.  My biggest concern is
> >
> > the drain on the battery.  I tried a Megahertz card some time ago and
> > it killed my battery is seconds.  Is there a card that will go lite on
> >
> > my batteries?  I'm not looking to surf the net, just download email.
> >
> > Where would be the best place to look?
> >
> > Don.
> > Sacramento, CA
> >
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:15:52 -0600
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              Mary and Mike Kilpatrick <mikemary@MCIPNET.COM>
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I have a couple of extra Megahertz PCMCIA modems for sale, one new and one
with cellular cable.

CC4144  - This is a brand new "dealer pack" (not in a box) 14.4 modem. It
is sealed in plastic with cable and manual. $25 plus ship

XJ3144 and US Robotics Motorola Flip Phone Cellular Cable - The XJ3144
comes with software diskette, Modem Installation Guide, User Reference
Guide and Faxworks User Guide. The Cellular Cable is
new-in-sealed-display-pack (I paid $69.95 for it alone) and is model
CableMOT1 (item #52897; this is the model I think US Robotics refers to
when you call 1-800-LAPTOPS for compatability questions).  $55 plus
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:22:32 -0500
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Hi group-

Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?  Every week=
 or
two, the program stops in the middle of downloading messages - at the
point where it displays "Deleting message on host".  It stays there
until either it times out or I hit CTRL to break off.

This might be caused by the content of either the msg or header.  Once
it happened on a busy morning on a couple of listservs - DL'd 42
messages before freezing.  Read the mail, then went back to pick up=
 the
rest.  Guess what?? - I get the same 42 msgs then FREEZE... aargh  8-(
Anyhow after the 4th try (As Yogi Berra said "Deja vu all over again"),=
 I
telnetted into my ISP, found it has PINE available - found 60 msgs -
read 'em & deleted 'em.  The fact that the prog hangs on the same msg
each time suggests that the problem was caused by something in the
mail.  I think the msgs involved have included HTML, but this shouldn't
be a problem...  HTML msgs come thru all the time with no hassle.

Dunno if the problem is in Post/LX or if the host system just isn't
responding to the instruction to delete certain msgs.

Any ideas??

TIA

-PR
------------

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Subject:      Blue FN key remapping
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Hi, folks:

Actually I have to use the following combination of keys to get accents:

Fn + r + (a|e|i|o|u)

But for me, it would be much easier just having to press Fn and then the
letter. Is there an easy way, or a program to do it. I've actually been
having a look to the developer's manual and figured out how to do it, but
don't want to reinvent the wheel.

Regards. Nacho.

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On  Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:22:32 -0500,
     Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?  Every
> week or
> two, the program stops in the middle of downloading messages -
> at the
> point where it displays "Deleting message on host"...

Yes, I can confirm this. It happens to me about once or twice a month.
I usually use NetTamer to download the POP Queue, or use another POP
client on my Lap/Desktop to erase one or more of the messages, then
POST/LX seems to work OK. Also if I wait a bit for another message to
stack up on the queue, it seems to work.

Other than that, I haven't been able to determine under what
circumstances it occurrs. It happens so infrequently, that it hard to
troubleshoot.

Cheeers,



*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
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*                        |___/
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:00:52 -0800
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Ignacio Ýiso-8859-1¨ Garc=EDaÝiso-8859-1¨  P=E9rez wro=
te:

> Actually I have to use the following combination of keys to get accents:
>=20
> Fn + r + (a|e|i|o|u)
>=20
> But for me, it would be much easier just having to press Fn and then the
> letter. Is there an easy way, or a program to do it. I've actually been
> having a look to the developer's manual and figured out how to do it, but
> don't want to reinvent the wheel.

You might want to look at d:\bin\key200.txt in order to play around with
d:\bin\key200.com

This is a low-level key-remapping utility provided with the 200LX. I use
it to remap the Memo key, but I haven't tried it to do what you want.

This utility isn't mentioned in the manual.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:32:20 -0500
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I think there is a program on the Super site- www.palmtop.net that remaps
the keys.

John

At 07:11 PM 2/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi, folks:
>
>Actually I have to use the following combination of keys to get accents:
>
>Fn + r + (a|e|i|o|u)
>
>But for me, it would be much easier just having to press Fn and then the
>letter. Is there an easy way, or a program to do it. I've actually been
>having a look to the developer's manual and figured out how to do it, but
>don't want to reinvent the wheel.
>
>Regards. Nacho.
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:32:25 -0500
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I haven't haven't had this problem (only been using the program for three
weeks though) but it might be a memory issue. I find I need to allocate at
least 350k to get rid of little qirks in the program. Then it runs fine.

John

  At 01:43 PM 2/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On  Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:22:32 -0500,
>     Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:
>
>> Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?  Every
>> week or
>> two, the program stops in the middle of downloading messages -
>> at the
>> point where it displays "Deleting message on host"...
>
>Yes, I can confirm this. It happens to me about once or twice a month.
>I usually use NetTamer to download the POP Queue, or use another POP
>client on my Lap/Desktop to erase one or more of the messages, then
>POST/LX seems to work OK. Also if I wait a bit for another message to
>stack up on the queue, it seems to work.
>
>Other than that, I haven't been able to determine under what
>circumstances it occurrs. It happens so infrequently, that it hard to
>troubleshoot.
>
>Cheeers,
>
>
>
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>* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
>*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
>*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
>*                        |___/
>*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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I use a MaxDOS shell, but I have tried running from "vanilla DOS" and
it still hangs.

Next time it happens I'll try to characterize it and
post my findings (that should guaranty it won't happen for a while ;-)=
 )

Cheers,
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* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:53:37 -0500
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              David Spoelstra <davids@MEDIAMACHINE.COM>
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I had that same problem last week.  As a matter of fact, I fixed it the
same way you did - I telnetted in and read my mail with pine.
-David


On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?  Every week or
> two, the program stops in the middle of downloading messages - at the
> point where it displays "Deleting message on host".  It stays there
> until either it times out or I hit CTRL to break off.
>
> This might be caused by the content of either the msg or header.  Once
> it happened on a busy morning on a couple of listservs - DL'd 42
> messages before freezing.  Read the mail, then went back to pick up the
> rest.  Guess what?? - I get the same 42 msgs then FREEZE... aargh  8-(
> Anyhow after the 4th try (As Yogi Berra said "Deja vu all over again"), I
> telnetted into my ISP, found it has PINE available - found 60 msgs -
> read 'em & deleted 'em.  The fact that the prog hangs on the same msg
> each time suggests that the problem was caused by something in the
> mail.  I think the msgs involved have included HTML, but this shouldn't
> be a problem...  HTML msgs come thru all the time with no hassle.
>
> Dunno if the problem is in Post/LX or if the host system just isn't
> responding to the instruction to delete certain msgs.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:06:31 EST
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In a message dated 98-02-11 15:54:19 EST, you write:

<< I telnetted in and read my mail with pine. >>

How?.....and what is pine??

Cathy

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:19:00 -0800
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> << I telnetted in and read my mail with pine. >>
>
> How?.....and what is pine??

Pine is a text based email reader that's often used on Unix machines. He
used a vt100 session (ie Datacomm) and dialed in to his ISP, dropped into
the Unix prompt and started pine.

I use Pine also at work on a network. The disadvantage of using it for
phone email is that you tie up the phone line the whole time you're
reading and answering your mail (vs offline readers like Post/LX and
NetTamer).

Most ISPs don't allow you to get into the Unix prompt (ie, a "shell"
account), so that's not an option for many of us 8{

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:37:50 -0500
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Pine is a UNIX character bases mail program.

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 CSchlim@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 98-02-11 15:54:19 EST, you write:
>
> << I telnetted in and read my mail with pine. >>
>
> How?.....and what is pine??

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:51:44 -0500
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Subject:      Sandisk SDP3BX-85-101 85 MB flash for 200lx

Does anyone have experience or info about using these on the 200lx?

Are there in fact any problems with cards > 64 MB as I saw mentioned
as a rumor here?  Hasn't there been an 80+ MB Sandisk for the 200lx for
many years?

I see the SDP3BX-85-101 available for about $715.95 credit card price
(on http://www.uvision.com). They are are indeed PCMCIA Type II ATA
5V +/- 10% or 3.3 V +/- 5%.

How would it compare with a 64 MB Simple Technologies card frpm Marcan
for $499?  I don't see specs or mention of the 64 MB card at the Simple Tech
site; the spec sheets for amaller ones seem roughly comparable to the Sandisk
85 MB, except for size and what I HOPE is a typo at Simple
Tech: "Data reliability: 1 in 1014 bits, read"  while Sandisk has 1 in 10¬14.

Thanks for any input!

Bill

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:48:07 -0800
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, William T. Hole wrote:

> Does anyone have experience or info about using these on the 200lx?
> Are there in fact any problems with cards > 64 MB as I saw mentioned
> as a rumor here?  Hasn't there been an 80+ MB Sandisk for the 200lx for
> many years?

I believe there's a list member with one of the 85MB Sandisk cards, and it
works well.  There have been reports that it's a little slow...

> How would it compare with a 64 MB Simple Technologies card frpm Marcan
> for $499?  I don't see specs or mention of the 64 MB card at the Simple Tech
> site; the spec sheets for amaller ones seem roughly comparable to the Sandisk
> 85 MB, except for size and what I HOPE is a typo at Simple
> Tech: "Data reliability: 1 in 1014 bits, read"  while Sandisk has 1 in 10¬14.

Definitely a typo.  10¬14 is the right spec.  The Simple Tech card will
probably be considerably faster, but again, you're trading off capacity.

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:57:03 +1100
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Probably a bit off your thread here, but I'll ask anyway.

I recently changed my ISP and the new guy, small company run by a young uni
grad are not being very helpful getting the LX to work.

He tells me a standard PAP script should work?

I have a very early copy of WWWlx and I have tried the Generic CHAP/PAP
script. No joy.

The settings on win95 are 1) enable software compression, 2) TCP/IP server
assigned IP address, server assigned name and address, use IP header
compression, use default gateway on remote network. I'm no computer
programmer but am confident that I could piece together a script given the
appropriate instructions.

I am also going to try Nettamer. I mainly want to use the HP for E-mail,
and it appears that I would have to purchase the whole program over in
order to get the E-mail client. I have Emailed and faxed the company listed
on my original wwwlx disk to ask the questions above but as yet received no
reply.

Any help / advise on the correct commands for either www or Nettamer would
be greatly appreciated. (I may not be on the mailing list at this address,
so if it's possible to post your reply for others, as well as reply
personally I'd appreciate it)

Kind regards,

Dave

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:19:22 -0800
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Ian,

> Okay so you wonder: what software does all this? Post/LX of
> course :-)

:-) Ian, I notice your firm is in marketing. And indeed you did a
good job on Post/LX (which is the email/newsgroup client of
WWW/LX Plus). Thanks for the plug!

(Ian is a beta tester for the WWW/LX Plus product, but he
cannot say any more about it for now :). Soon!)

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:24:35 -0600
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Just how un-compatable is the 95lx aginst the 100lx? Aside from the
memory aspect.
ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:56:05 -0600
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Yes PINE does require online use, I'm using it right now to write this
message. A suggestion would be to use Qua-lx! from the SUPER site. I use
it all the time with my shell account and love it. I hardly ever use a
ppp connection anymore. Good luck!

Jeff


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Hi group-

Thanks to all of you who replied to my question about Post/LX sometimes
(rarely) freezing when DL-ing mail.  Interesting to know that it's not
just me.  John suggested it might be insufficient memory.  Good guess,
but I run it in raw DOS, so that's not it.

Guess the only way to isolate the cause is to compare the messages that
come thru OK with the list on PINE, and try to see exactly what msg
locks things up...

Thanks again everyone  8-)

-PR

Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:23:22 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I unfortunately have to leave this list. There are simply too many
messages. I could probably live with the amount of mail if the message
headers clearly stated that they come from the hplx list as in the old
days. I have for some time deleted unread messages and as things go (at
least) one too many.

So - thanks for the many good ideas and the advice! I will miss the list!=


Jorgen
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You could always use the digest feature of the listserv or you could set
up some filters in your mail program to sort the HPLX mail into it's own
folder. I personally use a .procmailrc file on my unix account to do
this, I also know that mail programs like Eudora allow you to filter
mail. If that's not your "cup of tea", then we've enjoyed having you and
I hope that you come back soon. Good luck!

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:25:58 -0800
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Hi, I'm looking for a 2 or 4 meg 200LX DOS palmtop. It must be fully
functional and in good condition. I would also prefer to include the
manuals, PC connection cables and any required software for me to hook
up to a PC.

Why not make some money out of that old 200LX which you rarely use !!!

Thanks
Brian

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:47:05 -0700
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried a 28.8 modem at a 14.4 only connect
rate?  I would imagine the power consumption would go down, but only actual
testing would tell how much.  Has anyone tried this?

Bryan Pearson
Tech Support
Onyx Graphics

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:08:15 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Blue FN key remapping
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.3.32.19980211191104.00777694@crispin> from "Ignacio
              =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=" at Feb 11,
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> Actually I have to use the following combination of keys to get accents:
>
> Fn + r + (a|e|i|o|u)
By experiment, I found that

        Fn + t
        Fn + y
        Fn + u
give other accents.

Also, you can get a accented 'e' by
        Fn + e

> But for me, it would be much easier just having to press Fn and then the
> letter. Is there an easy way, or a program to do it.

Use key200 for remappings. See
        D:\bin\key200.txt


You can remap
        Fn
to
        Fn + r



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> I unfortunately have to leave this list.

> So - thanks for the many good ideas and the advice! I will miss the list!

Somehow I think the hp200lx will draw you back, even if not as a
full-time participant!  :)

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:05:55 -0600
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              Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>
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My son gave me a Cardinal 28.8 kbps modem he acquired though trading.
 Their web page lists it at 185mA.  On batteries, the 200LX shuts off.  On
AC power, it seems to work fine.  I've only used it 2 or 3 times as a test
using Datacomm to access a local bulletin board system.

As long as it works, is there any danger in using one that exceeds 150?

-----Original Message-----
From:   A. Meshar ÝSMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
Sent:   Wednesday, February 11, 1998 8:21 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: pcmcia modem

Don:

The faster the modem, the more power hungry it is. I use a
2400 Megahertz and sips a mere 35mAh - easily within my
batteries' ability to provide. But it is slow. When I use a
14.4 the consumptions are generally in the 120-150mAh and
more. Batteries usually can take one or two brief sessions if
they are fresh! By brief I mean less than a minute. Highly
recommended to use adapter.

Faster modems which exceed 150mAh cannot even function in the
palmtop which supplies only 150mAh to the PCMCIA chassis.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨


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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:59:36 -0800
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Jeff,

Yesterday, Feb 10, you posted this:

> I have noticed that when the TSR for ABC/LX "kicks in" and does it =
thing
> that it turns the power to the Com 1 port on. Is there a way to keep =
this
> from happening? I searched the manual, but couldn't find any info
> regarding this.

I checked with the developer: ABC/LX does NOTHING with the
serial port. It has no code whatsoever accessing the port. So
no, this must be a reaction from some other component in your
system. Specifically, it is possible that the System Manager
does something with to the port when battery chargin is
enabled, for some reason.

I any case, it is really difficult to get up lots of steam
about 1-2mAh :)...

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:34:25 -0800
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I used to filter messages into folder with Euroda.  But Eudora recently
locked up telling me that I don't have enought memory even though
I have 6.plus gig hard drive and 128 meg internal memory.

I switched back to Netscape 3.1.

Anyone know, can I filter messages into folders with Netscape? If so
how?

Jeff wrote:
>
> You could always use the digest feature of the listserv or you could set
> up some filters in your mail program to sort the HPLX mail into it's own
> folder. I personally use a .procmailrc file on my unix account to do
> this, I also know that mail programs like Eudora allow you to filter
> mail. If that's not your "cup of tea", then we've enjoyed having you and
> I hope that you come back soon. Good luck!
>
> Jeff
>
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:35:24 +0100
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              Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: Sandisk SDP3BX-85-101 85 MB flash for 200lx
Comments: To: "William T. Hole" <wth@NLM.NIH.GOV>
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>How would it compare with a 64 MB Simple Technologies card frpm Marcan
>for $499?  I don't see specs or mention of the 64 MB card at the Simple Tech
>site; the spec sheets for amaller ones seem roughly comparable to the Sandisk
>85 MB, except for size and what I HOPE is a typo at Simple
>Tech: "Data reliability: 1 in 1014 bits, read"  while Sandisk has 1 in 10¬14.

This is almost for sure a type. Both should be 10¬14.

Regards. Nacho.

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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: Blue FN key remapping
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>Use key200 for remappings. See
>        D:\bin\key200.txt

I'll try, thanks!

>You can remap
>        Fn
>to
>        Fn + r

Sure, but then every Fn + Phone (for example) would become Fn + r + Phone.
I guess this wouldn't work...

Regards. Nacho.

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Comments: To: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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>You might want to look at d:\bin\key200.txt in order to play around with
>d:\bin\key200.com
>
>This is a low-level key-remapping utility provided with the 200LX. I use
>it to remap the Memo key, but I haven't tried it to do what you want.

Someone suggested to use (to remap Fn+e to Fn+r+e):

Fn : Fn r ¬r ¬Fn

But this would translate Fn into Fn+r *always*, which is not what I want.

Instead, I got what I wanted with the following macro file:

Fn e : Fn r ¬r ¬Fn e

Same for rest of vocals...

>This utility isn't mentioned in the manual.

Great...

Regards. Nacho.

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              98 09:45:05 am
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Does anyone has experienced GSM cards (like the
nokia data card or the Digicom Palladio) on the
Hp200 ?

                Thanks
                Raffaele

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No, but I think TDK have a winner with their software modem for GSM phones -
no card so no battery drain beyond driving the serial port.  Alas they are
developing it for Win95, WinNT and WinCE - not DOS.  But perhaps that is
just the challenge someone needs ?

It's cheap compared to a PC card (UKL 122), but that's quite a lot for a
floppy disk of software and a custom cable for your phone (9-pin D at the
other end).

http://www.tdkgreycell.com/softmob/index.htm

Is where the information is.

William D.Ll.Brown

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              Tony Hutchins <thutchins@ACM.ORG>
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Yup the Nokia cellular data card works great. No special AT commands
required either - look just like a medem card to the palmtop. Seems to
have a low power requirement as it doesn't have to make any
sound/noise<G>.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:18:07 +0100
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At 10:08 12.02.98 +0100, you wrote:
>Does anyone has experienced GSM cards (like the
>nokia data card or the Digicom Palladio) on the
>Hp200 ?

Yes. I'm using the "Option GSM-Only PC Card modem" which works nicely
together with th 200LX (e.g. using QFAX and acCIS 4.0) and a Nokia 2110i.
See http://www.option.com/ for details

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:07:50 +0100
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Yes. I'm using the "Option GSM-Only PC Card modem" which works nicely
together with th 200LX (e.g. using QFAX and acCIS 4.0) and a Nokia 2110i.
See http://www.option.com/ for details

Well, concerning QFAX... I still cannot get this fax software to work. As
posted before, I am trying to make it work and everything seems to work
perfectly together: Qfax, palmtop and modem, but when connected (at 9600
Bps) to the fax at the other end of the line I get the message: 'wait time
error' 'cannot send DCN'. This occurs during modem training. I don't know
how to solve this. In my configuration file I have tried several settings
for wait time, but I don't know what would be a correct one.

Can anyone help me out?

Frank

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>Does anyone have experience or info about using these on the 200lx?
>
>Are there in fact any problems with cards > 64 MB as I saw mentioned
>as a rumor here?  Hasn't there been an 80+ MB Sandisk for the 200lx for
>many years?

I have been using a 85 MB Sandisk card for several years in my 200LX. It
works perfectly and so far I have never encountered any problems. It costs
a lots of money, but it's well worth it!

Jorgen W.
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hi gang!  got an electronic greeting card from cards@aol.com  through
nettamer on my palmtop.  i have lxpic but am not sure if this is the
appropriate tool to view it.  the company suggests trying all sorts of
shareware viewers to view the card.  they also have a website to download=
 a
viewer which i cannot get acces to.  =

anyone know how to take that email msg and work with it as a file and run=
 a
viewer (lxpic?) against in order to read the file?  thanks very much!
tom in damascus

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:55:08 +0100
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              12, 98 09:27:48 am
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>
> Yup the Nokia cellular data card works great. No special AT commands
> required either - look just like a medem card to the palmtop. Seems to
> have a low power requirement as it doesn't have to make any
> sound/noise<G>.
>
> Regards, Tony
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How much did you pay for the card?
Can you use it without the AC adapter?

Tnx a lot
Raffaele Gaioni

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>
> At 10:08 12.02.98 +0100, you wrote:
> >Does anyone has experienced GSM cards (like the
> >nokia data card or the Digicom Palladio) on the
> >Hp200 ?
>
> Yes. I'm using the "Option GSM-Only PC Card modem" which works nicely
> together with th 200LX (e.g. using QFAX and acCIS 4.0) and a Nokia 2110i.
> See http://www.option.com/ for details
>
> Herbert
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How much did you pay for the card?
Can you use it without the AC adapter?

Tnx a lot
Raffaele Gaioni

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:58:01 +0100
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At 12:55 12.02.98 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>> At 10:08 12.02.98 +0100, you wrote:
>> >Does anyone has experienced GSM cards (like the
>> >nokia data card or the Digicom Palladio) on the
>> >Hp200 ?
>>
>> Yes. I'm using the "Option GSM-Only PC Card modem" which works nicely
>> together with th 200LX (e.g. using QFAX and acCIS 4.0) and a Nokia 2110i.
>> See http://www.option.com/ for details
>>...
>>
>How much did you pay for the card?
>Can you use it without the AC adapter?

I bought the Card here in Berlin, Germany. The price was DM 359 including
one of the GSM activation kit (there are different onces for different
mobile phones.
In between the price dropped a little bit. It is now 348 DM (both prices
include 15 % VAT). See http://www.novamedia.de/001it08e.htm (WEB page of
the company I bought it from).

You can use the card without an AC adapter. I did this with NiMH as well As
NiCd batteries inside the LX (200LX, 8 MB RAM, Double Speed). It even works
on regular Alkaline type batteries. But I never checked how long. With
NiCd's in good condition it works at least for around 10 minutes. May be
much longer but as mentioned I never checked this.

By the way, if the modem is plugged in it always makes some noise. Don't
know the reason why. At least this is different to my regular PCMCIA modem.
But this doesn't seem to have any meaning. The modem works reliable all the
time; no problems.

Herbert
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I have noticed that when I exit any DOS program I have installed that it
turns the port power on. Is there some type of setting that I can set,
when I am setting up a DOS program within the system manager?

Jeff


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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: ABC/LX & Serial Port
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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Jeff wrote:

> I have noticed that when I exit any DOS program I have installed that it
> turns the port power on. Is there some type of setting that I can set,
> when I am setting up a DOS program within the system manager?

Do you normally have SysMgr configured with com power turned off? This is
More/Setup/F6(Comm)/ and the "Enable Com1 Port in DOS" should be
unchecked.

Some people turn off Com1 power using other utilities and SysMgr may just
turn it back on again if this isn't checked.

Sorry if I've stated the obvious...I don't know what else could be the
cause....when all my DOS programs terminate, the com1 port stays powered
off. There's no setting specific to a DOS program (ie, SysMgr icon) that I
know of that would affect this.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:05:31 +0100
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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Subject:      What comm software on hp700?
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What communication software is bundled with omnigo 700?

Tnc
Raffaele

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:20:50 +0100
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At 11:07 12.02.98 +0100, you wrote:
>...
>Well, concerning QFAX... I still cannot get this fax software to work. As
>posted before, I am trying to make it work and everything seems to work
>perfectly together: Qfax, palmtop and modem, but when connected (at 9600
>Bps) to the fax at the other end of the line I get the message: 'wait time
>error' 'cannot send DCN'. This occurs during modem training. I don't know
>how to solve this. In my configuration file I have tried several settings
>for wait time, but I don't know what would be a correct one.
>
>Can anyone help me out?

I'm using version 1.08 without any problems. I tried version 1.10 - as far
as I remember -  and that version didn't work. I didn't try to find the
reasons. I'm using the fax software may be 3 or 4 times a year. So others
should be able to help you much more than I can.

The only thing I'm using regular regarding the LX and the modem is acCIS 4.0

Herbert

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:23:23 +0100
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At 11:07 12.02.98 +0100, you wrote:
>Yes. I'm using the "Option GSM-Only PC Card modem" which works nicely
>together with th 200LX (e.g. using QFAX and acCIS 4.0) and a Nokia 2110i.
>See http://www.option.com/ for details
>
>Well, concerning QFAX... I still cannot get this fax software to work. As
>posted before, I am trying to make it work and everything seems to work
>perfectly together: Qfax, palmtop and modem, but when connected (at 9600
>Bps) to the fax at the other end of the line I get the message: 'wait time
>error' 'cannot send DCN'. This occurs during modem training. I don't know
>how to solve this. In my configuration file I have tried several settings
>for wait time, but I don't know what would be a correct one.
>

Sorry, one additional info which might help.
My init string: AT&F&C1&D2X3S0=2 (as mentioned QFAX Version 1.08)

Herbert
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:09:51 -0800
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To understand the PRC format you have to understand something significant
about the Pilot. All data for the pilot is stored in a database format for
easy synchronization. Unfortunately, there are limitations on the size of the
individual database chunks. What that means is even in the memo writing
functions you are limited to a maximum of 2K or 4K (I can't remember which)
which seemed to rule out there ever being big e-texts on the Pilot. Remember
the Pilot was only seen as a PIM adjunct rather than a Palmtop computer (which
it has become).

How that changed was the development of two separate programs. One was a
program called MAKEDOC that converted and compressed the text file into a
database file . The second was a program called DOC which allowed you to read
the database file on your Pilot. These programs became popular because they
were free and the first on the market.

However, they have now been bought by Aportis software who has started
charging for DOC (with the AportisDOC program) and will soon be charging for
MAKEDOC (which will be called Aportis DOC Professional). However MAKEDOC is
still available unsupported from Aportis at:

http://www.aportis.com/resources/makedocutilities.html

Why do I bring this up? Well, MAKEDOC not only converts a text file to DOC it
can also convert a DOC file back to TXT (a feature seldom used by Pilot users
but is useful for us). I would suggest that someone download these programs
and then upload them Super while we can.

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Date:
             Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:06:34 -0800
        From:
             Bradley Johnson <BJohnson@PLATSOFT.COM>
      Subject:
             E-text files
 MIME-Version:
             1.0
 Content-Type:
             text/plain


A friend of mine just recently purchased a (gonna take a chance)
PalmPilot.

He was showing me some of the many E-texts available in a *.PRC file
format.

Does anyone know if there is a utility to view/search these from the
HP200lx?

Does anyone know the characteristics of these files?  Thaet appear to be
graphic files
that allow for searching, viewing and perhaps editing.


Bradley Johnson
x4552
bjohnson@platsoft.com





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->I unfortunately have to leave this list. There are simply too many
->messages. I could probably live with the amount of mail if the message
->headers clearly stated that they come from the hplx list as in the old
->days. I have for some time deleted unread messages and as things go (at
->least) one too many.

Though an avid HP LX user, the above message describes me too.  I too have
been deleting unread messages.

Jeff


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I normally have it turned off, but after reading your post I went to
verify that it was off. The box was unchecked but I went ahead and
pressed F10 to make sure the palmtop took the entry, guess what? Now it
works. It's just one of those weird little things that happens sometimes,
I guess.

Jeff


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Jeff:

Can you do a filter on the "To:" part of the address to seperate the
messages to an appropriate folder?

Jeff


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I've noticed that often, if the serial port is on when I boot up the
machine, and I turn it off in the Application Manager (via Buddy or LXPro
or some other such utility) and then run a program and go back to
AppMan... the serial port is back on.  It seems that a variety of events
will restore the serial port to the "on" position in this case.  Wish I
could figure out exactly what does it.

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Greetings Listmembers,

     You may not all be aware (although some of you who have let your
mailbox overflow are <grin> ) that in addition to MAIL & DIGEST
subscriptions, there is an INDEX subscription. The INDEX mails out with
the same frequency as the DIGEST, but only contains the Header Info=
 of
each message, rather than the entire text. The subscriber then sends=
 a
request back for only the messages of interest.

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Subject:      Re: ABC/LX & Serial Port
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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> I've noticed that often, if the serial port is on when I boot up the
> machine, and I turn it off in the Application Manager (via Buddy or LXPro
> or some other such utility) and then run a program and go back to
> AppMan... the serial port is back on.  It seems that a variety of events
> will restore the serial port to the "on" position in this case.  Wish I
> could figure out exactly what does it.

I have mine turned off in AppMgr/Setup.

The only time I turn on the power is when I use interlnk, and I start that
via an icon pointing to a batch file that runs "serctl /w" and "serctl /o"

I've never had the occasion to need the serial otherwise (I use a card
modem).

I do use a little DOS program called 'volume' which like LXSTAT (and
written by the same person, Rudi...bless his heart and smarts) shows the
status of the volume and allows me to set it. The following happens:
- Setup/System volume level set to 'off'
- AppMgr/Dos/volume.com shows level '0' (like it should)
- 'volume 3' to set to highest volume
- exit dos, back to AppMgr, return to DOS, 'volume' still shows '3'
- exit dos, go to System, volume shows 'off' (expected 'high')
- back to AppMgr/DOS/ volume now shows '0' (reset by AppMgr?)

It seems that AppMgr might be keeping a config type file on the settings
and enforcing those settings when a change in state is detected. I was
thinking along these lines when I responded to Jeff's problem with the Com
port.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:39:17 -0800
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              "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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>I'm using version 1.08 without any problems. I tried version 1.10 - as far
>as I remember -  and that version didn't work. I didn't try to find the
>reasons. I'm using the fax software may be 3 or 4 times a year. So others
>should be able to help you much more than I can.


My qfax version says  V1.10(TEST) and it works fine.  I use it at least 5+
times a week.

-Tim
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:44:10 -0600
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Yep, me too David.

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:45:35 -0600
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I knew Al would have the answer :-)

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:50:57 GMT
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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: comp.sys.palmtops
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:59:41 -0400, Ian Melville wrote:

>Neil, i still follow it and on my lx as well but only grab msgs two or
>three times a month. I have no problems with threads that don't
>interest me nor excessively long posts (which include binary posts)
>because i filter everything.

Yeah, I know I *should* filter news on lines, but I've got used to not
bothering because I don't take any binary groups, and one of the chat
groups I take regularly carries long debates which are interesting. I'll =
be
sticking with comp.sys.palmtops until the perpetrator of the "warez"
postings has been dealt with.  Support is gathering to denounce his
actions, and every little that can be done to stamp out outright theft =
has
to be a good thing.

>Okay so you wonder: what software does all this? Post/LX of course :-)

Luckily I normally collect news at home on my main machine, but I do use
Nettamer from time to time on the HP. I was able to keep in touch with =
the
world during a 24 hr power cut in January. It sure as hell impressed my
friends in the chat group :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:32:06 +0000
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              Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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I use Pegassus Mail Dos & win.
and I use a filter (rule) to move all the mail list messages
to an onther folder.
Al

Pegassus is good on the LX because I can use the same files (mails)
on win 16, win32 and dos.
and it's free
http://www.pegasus.usa.com/

> I unfortunately have to leave this list. There are simply too many
> messages. I could probably live with the amount of mail if the message
> headers clearly stated that they come from the hplx list as in the old
> days. I have for some time deleted unread messages and as things go (at
> least) one too many.
>
> So - thanks for the many good ideas and the advice! I will miss the list!
>
> Jorgen
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:39:03 PST
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      DIGEST

I've just learned that not everyone knows what it means to get the
DIGEST version of a mailing list.  When you turn on the Digest feature
you start getting one big file that contains all the individual pieces
that you normally receive as individual pieces of mail in one day.

I can read the list must faster this way as I can just keep paging
forward in one file rather than closing one mail item and opening
another.

The drawbacks include...
1. There is some delay getting the info because there is usually only
   1 digest per day.  (If the HPLX digest is over about 1400 lines
   then you get 2 files.)

2. It may be a bit more difficult to automatically reply to individual
   items as they are all part of one piece of mail.

Try it, you may like it!

Russ

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:43:29 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:26:10 -0500, Donald Collins <Donald_Collins@CSERVE1=
.CCMAIL.COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

Do> I'm looking for a PC Card Modem for my HP200LX.  My biggest concern =
is
Do> the drain on the battery.  I tried a Megahertz card some time ago and
Do> it killed my battery is seconds.  Is there a card that will go lite =
on
Do> my batteries?  I'm not looking to surf the net, just download email.

I owned an Apex SmartModem + memory sometime ago and as i recall this
card provided for extremely low power consumption (compared to my exp
thinfax for example) and i kept it in the slot all the time. This is
perhaps because the modem part is only 2400 data (14400 fax) but it
offered superb functionality and high mileage between fill-ups....

Not sure if they are still available but the site was www.apexdata.com
i believe.

Regards,
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 05:57:09 -0800, Longden C. Loo wrote:

>Neil, your thread on the WinCE pirate was interesting. The crowd there =
is
>a testy lot aren't they?

They are indeed.  I've found I've got a lot more sympathy for the small
software developer since I've had my HP and profited from all the good
stuff which we have available for free or at low cost. A couple of years
ago I probably wouldn't have bothered, but now I feel these guys deserve
our support when they are being ripped off. It seems that a few more =
people
are now prepared to stand up to these pirates, which is pleasing.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:10:25 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Comments: To: imelv@tstt.net.tt

On 1998-02-11 imelv@tstt.net.tt said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >12> As far as I know, the phone app. will NOT work with modified
   >12> phone-databases. Anyone... Please tell me I'm wrong and let me
   >know = how to
   >12> do this.
   >Yes, you are wrong Bas :-) I use a modified phone database myself
   >and had no problems using or creating it. Just open the databage
   >application, load in your *.pdb file and use the modify database
   >command just as you would for a native database file. The same rules
   >apply.
Are we both talking about the windows phone application from th ob6dsk
file?

   >The only downside i've noticed is with progs that access the
   >phonebook directly - such as MiniFax. However as long as the 'fax
   >number' field appears in the same position as in the default file
   >(ie: it is usually the fifth field), minifax will not complain. <g>
   >I can't remember for sure but i believe the same happens with the
   >smart modular fax prog - bitfax...
Haven't tried it. Don't fax that much.

   >PS: The Trinidad prime minister's first name is Basdeo and he is
   >better know as 'Bas' so i have to try to remember which one i'm
   >addressing... :-)
I'm not that interested in confidential e-mail from you to your prme
minister. OTOH: ... never mind.


Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn       mailto:pruijn@few.eur.nl

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:33:08 -0500
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My 200LX which is now 3.5 years old has lost a couple of lines
(vertical)
of pixels in the left side of the screen.  It's missing about 8 lines
altogether which I can live with, but would love to fix if I could.

The strange thing is that when there is not much on the screen - less of

the lines disappear (visible on the top black bar visible on most HP
Apps)
- it is almost as if there is insufficient power to the screen and those

lines are the first to go.

Has anyone had a similar problem and fixed it?
Could it be a loose / dirty connection?

Thanks
Nick Fosteras

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:01:05 -0700
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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A month or so ago someone asked how they could read their Eudora mailboxes
on the LX.  Since I use Eudora too, I was disappointed at the answers.
Basically there's no way to read your mailbox into ccMail or do anything
else neat like that.  The simplest answer was to save your emails out to a
text file and read that in the editor of your choice.

Well, last week while looking through the S.U.P.E.R. site, I found LXDR by
Rick Kozak.  LXDR is a custom reader for mailing list digests but will also
read Eudora's mailbox files (*.mbx ).  The program is only 27K and has a
feature that allows you to save messages out to a text file.

I put all the messages I want to read into my palmtop mailbox (palmtop.mbx)
and copy that file to my LX.  I fire up LXDR with the command "lxdr
palmtop.mbx".  By always using the same mailbox I can automate the copying
and opening steps.

Take a look.


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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:56:36 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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Subject:      Re: Reading Eudora Mail
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Are the files that LXDR reads just standard mailboxes that programs like
Eudora, Netscape, Post/LX, etc. use?  That would sure be handy for porting
desktop mail over to the palmtop.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:04:21 -0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      DIGEST
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-> The drawbacks include...
-> 1. There is some delay getting the info because there is usually only
-> 1 digest per day.  (If the HPLX digest is over about 1400 lines
-> then you get 2 files.)
->
-> 2. It may be a bit more difficult to automatically reply to
-> individual items as they are all part of one piece of mail.

One other drawback - I've found that most people getting a digest
version of a list, when they reply to a message, all too often negelct
to update their subject field from DIGEST: blah blah blah to whatever
the message happens to be about.  These are messages I almost always
filter out, as I sort my mail by subject fields here.  (I'm not
referring to your message as that IS what the subject is about, but many
lstservs will put DIGEST in the subject field when they send the daily
digest message out).  In the non-digest version of an email list,
there's a somewhat better chance that the subject field will actually
relate to the content of the message!
Jim

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:00:18 -0700
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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The text file for LXDR says

"The program takes a digest file, extracts the subjects of each message and
presents them to you in a scrollable list at the top of the screen."

I don't know the mechanics of how this works but I'd be willing to bet it
would read at least some of these other formats.  Rick seems to be open to
improving the program.  If you have a format that it doesn't read, you can
contact him (Rick Kozak) at <rick@colloquist.on.ca>


At 02:56 PM 2/12/98 -0800, David Sargeant wrote:
>Are the files that LXDR reads just standard mailboxes that programs like
>Eudora, Netscape, Post/LX, etc. use?  That would sure be handy for porting
>desktop mail over to the palmtop.
>

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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Goodbye
Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.3.91.980212104609.31396B-100000@koala.scott.net>

->Jeff:
->Can you do a filter on the "To:" part of the address to seperate the
->messages to an appropriate folder?
->Jeff

That is not my problem.  I have a whole slew of filters including one that
puts the HPLX messages in one folder.  It is the volume of mail and the
difficulty of judging the content of the message from the subjects of some
of the messages.

Actually, as you see, I am still there.  I just got to keep in touch with
you guys.  I do however delete numerous messages unread because the topics
have become somewhat unfocussed and the volume is getting overwhelming :=(

There, I feel better now.  Next message is about .......... <g>

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:00:14 -0800
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Al,

Your confirmation to Peniel almost convinces me that it is the
server , not Post/LX, that chokes on messages.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:00:16 -0800
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John, Right! Post/LX needs as much memory as possible! You
are running a stack of three programs, plus many areas in
meory being managed. The more the better! I am not sure
"quirks" is a really good term for "requirements" but if you
choke anything it'll "quirk" :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:00:04 -0800
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> The lowest power modem that I've found so far is the
> Megahertz 14.4 XJ2144 modem. I can stay connected for
> about 45 minutes with a fresh set of alkalines. I'd be interested
> in reports of battery life with other modems. You can find
> the XJ2144 modem used for about, say,   $30. It also has

Where can you find them for that price? TIA

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:00:07 -0800
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Peniel, that sounds strange, but I still think it is your
_server_ not Post/LX that has the problem. Post/LX couldn't
care less what comes down. But if your server chokes on
sending some message...

Very interesting. I'll forward it to the developer anyhow,
just in case he has another idea.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> Hi group-
>
> Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?  Every week
>  or
> two, the program stops in the middle of downloading messages - at the
> point where it displays "Deleting message on host".  It stays there
> until either it times out or I hit CTRL to break off.
>
> This might be caused by the content of either the msg or header.  Once
> it happened on a busy morning on a couple of listservs - DL'd 42
> messages before freezing.  Read the mail, then went back to pick up
>  the
> rest.  Guess what?? - I get the same 42 msgs then FREEZE... aargh  8-(
> Anyhow after the 4th try (As Yogi Berra said "Deja vu all over again"),
>  I
> telnetted into my ISP, found it has PINE available - found 60 msgs -
> read 'em & deleted 'em.  The fact that the prog hangs on the same msg
> each time suggests that the problem was caused by something in the
> mail.  I think the msgs involved have included HTML, but this shouldn't
> be a problem...  HTML msgs come thru all the time with no hassle.
>
> Dunno if the problem is in Post/LX or if the host system just isn't
> responding to the instruction to delete certain msgs.
>
> Any ideas??
>
> TIA
>
> -PR
> ------------
>
> Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
>     *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
>    Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"
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Jeff:

> I have noticed that when I exit any DOS program I have installed that =
it
> turns the port power on. Is there some type of setting that I can set,
> when I am setting up a DOS program within the system manager?

So it is not ABC/LX? Good to know we have no phantom code in
there! :)

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:56:25 +1100
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I recently changed my ISP and the new guy, small company run by a young uni
grad are not being very helpful getting the LX to work.

He tells me a standard PAP script should work? Well PAP doesn't really have
a script I know, but?

I have a very early copy of WWWlx and I have tried the Generic CHAP/PAP
script. No joy.

The settings on win95 are 1) enable software compression, 2) TCP/IP server
assigned IP address, server assigned name and address, use IP header
compression, use default gateway on remote network. I'm no computer
programmer but am confident that I could piece together a script given the
appropriate instructions.

I am also going to try Nettamer. I mainly want to use the HP for E-mail,
and it appears that I would have to purchase the whole program over in
order to get the E-mail client. I have Emailed and faxed the company listed
on my original WWWLX disk to ask the questions above but as yet received no
reply.

Any help / advise on the correct commands for either WWWLX or Nettamer
would
be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

David Green

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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:47:19 -0600
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I must admit that I also have been known to delete a few messages without
reading them <g> but I do gain a lot of helpful info from the list, so
the deletions are just a minor annoyance, at least for me. Now if I could
just figure out why my 200LX mysteriously turns on the comm port
sometimes......?

Jeff


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       |Jeff Johns   Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
       |   Amateur Radio: KF4KGQ           Birmingham, Alabama USA   |
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Is it possible when making a macro on the 200LX to have it wait until
particular thing happens? I'd like to set-up a macro that could dial my
ISP, wait for a prompt, send name and password perform some taks then
logoff. I've been playing around with the macro feature and it just
"blazes" through the steps. This may be a pipedream, but I was just
wondering.

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:33:34 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Serial Port Question
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Besides my other reply to you via email, I thought that if the
CHAP/PAP does not work, then they must not be using standard
PAP.

Would you mind producing a log file for me, and send it to me
(Avi) at support@dasoft.com? The manual has info how to create
a log file. I would really like to see what they do. Also, add
your WWW.CFG file.

Both log and WWw.CFG are ASCII TEXT files, so no need for
elaborate "attachments" and all that jazz! Just paste them
into the message, like any other text.

(oh an please don't post it here, people get quite disgusted
with this material :) ...)


  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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What program are you using?

When I had my problems, I used datacomm to dial in to see what
prompts the isp is looking for (and you can record everything
also, which helps).

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 04:37:06 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Thanks to the many people who took the trouble of emailing me directly to=

suggest the digest feature.

I just received a single, nice 56K package with 51 messages with an
index at the top: it is much faster to download and read a single big
message than 51 individual messages. The package is easily transferred
to the LX for reading while commuting. I'm going to like this!

The way to set it up is to send a message to the list server with an
empty RE: field and the following line in the body:

SET HPLX-L DIGEST =


Jorgen

 =

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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:01:05, Don Puscher wrote:

> I put all the messages I want to read into my palmtop mailbox
> (palmtop.mbx) and copy that file to my LX.  I fire up LXDR with the=
 command
> "lxdr palmtop.mbx".  By always using the same mailbox I can automate=
 the
> copying and opening steps.

Can you reply-to any of the messages that you read. Or is the
program just for reading as its name implies?


Regards,

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For those of you wishing to modify/change the APPTS.INI file which
came with your 200LX, the S.U.P.E.R.
(http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html) site now has two APPTS.INI
files available for downloading.  One has the Ferengi rules of
business, and the other has information about networks.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:09:40 -0500
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You can do that in Data Comm.  Set up a script file.  Put the text that
the hp should look for in brackets:   {text to look for}
then list your reply.  Use | as a return.

The instructions are in the manual.

Jeff wrote:

> Is it possible when making a macro on the 200LX to have it wait until
> particular thing happens? I'd like to set-up a macro that could dial
> my
> ISP, wait for a prompt, send name and password perform some taks then
> logoff. I've been playing around with the macro feature and it just
> "blazes" through the steps. This may be a pipedream, but I was just
> wondering.
>
> Jeff
>
>        ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>        |Jeff Johns   Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>
>        |   Amateur Radio: KF4KGQ           Birmingham, Alabama USA   |
>
>        | Regular Email jeffj@scott.net     http://www.bham.net/jcsd  |
>
>        |   Urgent Email<-->AlphaPager Email:  pagejeff@scott.net     |
>
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Two (related) questions about Data Comm.

1.  When calling from a hotel room, sometimes its difficult to predict
the timing or responses necessary to dial.  Is it possible to dial
manually, and then get Data Comm to link up when I hear the computer
tones on the other side?  I know this is possible in Mini Fax.

2.  Is it possible to store longer phone numbers (i.e., more characters)
in Data Comm or use a prefix/suffix type of code that allows telephone
credit card numbers to be input as a single character?

Thanks,  Steve

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---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes ---------------------------
From: INTERNET:swisotsk@daburn.com at CSERVE
Date: 2/11/98 7:27AM
To: Donald Collins at CSERVE1
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Subject: Re: pcmcia modem
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============== Begin part 2 ==========================

I was led to believe that the a/c adaptor didnt help with pcmcia
cards, that the cards pulled power from your batteries even while the
a/c is attached.

>I think you have to use an a/c adaptor for most (if not all) PC Card
>Modems.

============== End part 2 ============================

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---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes ---------------------------
From: INTERNET:sponsor@ftel.net at CSERVE
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To: Donald Collins at CSERVE1
*To: INTERNET:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU at CSERVE
Subject: Re: pcmcia modem
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============== Begin part 2 ==========================

I found a couple of used 2400/9600 compaq fax modems for sale $10.00
ea.  Is there a chance they would work in my 200LX?  or are they to
propriatary (work only in compaq laptops)?

>The faster the modem, the more power hungry it is. I use a
>2400 Megahertz and sips a mere 35mAh

============== End part 2 ============================

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:37:50 +0100
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http://www.port-home.com/pccards.htm

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:20:59 -0500
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This is a test.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:45:42 -0600
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Lately I have picked up some NiCads for $.30 to $.60 each.
Walmart, etc .... closeout tables. Look for battery packs for
cordless phones. Many of them use AA size batteries. If you are
an experimenter, you can leave them in the 3 or 5 packs. Or take
them apart for use in HPs. etc....
I've gotten these:
   GE Sanyo - The positive electrode is raised as in a normal AA.
   Energizer   -   700 mAh. The plus terminal is flush
                   with the top of the cell. Works fine in my 100LX.
                   But my AA only RS charger has recessed + terminal
                   so batteries can't be charged backwards. Other gear varies.
With the GE's, it was obvious thru the shrink plastic that the plus
terminal was raised.



Ian Melville wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:26:10 -0500, Donald Collins <Donald_Collins@CSERVE1.CCMAIL.COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>
> Do> I'm looking for a PC Card Modem for my HP200LX.  My biggest concern is
> Do> the drain on the battery.  I tried a Megahertz card some time ago and
> Do> it killed my battery is seconds.  Is there a card that will go lite on
> Do> my batteries?  I'm not looking to surf the net, just download email.
>
> I owned an Apex SmartModem + memory sometime ago and as i recall this
> card provided for extremely low power consumption (compared to my exp
> thinfax for example) and i kept it in the slot all the time. This is
> perhaps because the modem part is only 2400 data (14400 fax) but it
> offered superb functionality and high mileage between fill-ups....
>
> Not sure if they are still available but the site was www.apexdata.com
> i believe.
>
> Regards,
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ian Melville                                         imelv@tstt.net.tt
>                                                      ianmel@opus.co.tt
> ______________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:48:40 EST
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If we all use LX: as the beginning of the subject header it could help some of
our fellow list members screen mail. I know it would help me.
Tx Roy

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Can someone send me setver for dos 5. TIA Roy

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Does anyone know how to make Windows 2.03 let Software Carousel do its task
switching?  Whenever I am in windows, even using SLEEPON, I am unable to
switch back to another SC area without exiting win first.


----=20

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Anyone know where i can mail order just a newton keyboard PN:x0035ll/a,
not a converted one.  If anyone has one forsale please contact me with price
,converted or not.
Has anyone tried to use a keyboard and mouse together,same time, ideas on the
possibility of this. TIA Roy

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:17:50 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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Most modems allow you to store up to four numbers. If you look at your
modem's AT command set it will allow to store the number and them play them
back with a simple command.

karl
At 09:14 AM 2/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Two (related) questions about Data Comm.
>
>1.  When calling from a hotel room, sometimes its difficult to predict
>the timing or responses necessary to dial.  Is it possible to dial
>manually, and then get Data Comm to link up when I hear the computer
>tones on the other side?  I know this is possible in Mini Fax.
>
>2.  Is it possible to store longer phone numbers (i.e., more characters)
>in Data Comm or use a prefix/suffix type of code that allows telephone
>credit card numbers to be input as a single character?
>
>Thanks,  Steve
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On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:34:25 -0800, Phil Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

ps> I switched back to Netscape 3.1.
ps>
ps> Anyone know, can I filter messages into folders with Netscape? If so
ps> how?

If you can lay your hands on a copy of version 4.x (now called
communicator) it does this job really well...

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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:39:56 -0600, Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

je> I have noticed that when I exit any DOS program I have installed that =
it
je> turns the port power on. Is there some type of setting that I can =
set,
je> when I am setting up a DOS program within the system manager?

Jeff, i'm sure this was posted already but have you checked Setup to
ensure that the 'comm port power in dos' option is off? If this doesn't
help then a util like buddy or lxpro surely will.

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Got the setver file tx all Roy

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"A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> ...but I still think it is your _server_ not Post/LX that has the
> problem.

Hi Avi & group-

I think this is probably right.  Post/LX doesn't seem to have any
problem with the downloading.  The stalling happens when the "Deleting
message..." line pops up.  It looks as if the host system (for whatever
reason) isn't responding to the command to delete certain messages.=

Why some msgs seem to confuse the server and refuse to delete in
response to the Post/LX command beats me.  I did try adding a LONG
timeout to the .cfg file just in case the server was slow to react,=
 but
even stretching things to 240 seconds made no difference...

Next time this happens, I'll try to see if there's anything wierd in
either the msg or header that might help figure things out.

Thanks.

-PR
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Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Hello again folks-

This is off-topic, so I hope nobody minds.

I know some of you use PINE for email at times.  Have you ever had
mail that shows up as blank in the read-mail screen, but is listed in
the index list as being fair-size?  This has happened with some mail
from another listserv (I get that one on my FreeNet account).  The msgs
show up OK in the listserv archive.  I had asked folks on the other
list if they had problems with these msgs, and most did.  Some
reported that they crashed their providers POP servers. These msgs
also can't be forwarded.  I tried sending them from my UNIX FreeNet
account to this one, but PINE aborts as soon as "Forward" is
selected.

Just wondered if this could possibly relate to the stalling that
occasionally happens in Post/LX.  Maybe something in the header or body
of the msg scrambles the server's brain  8-(

Thanks

-PR
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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 22:10:06 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Comments: cc: gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT

On 1998-02-12 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >What communication software is bundled with omnigo 700?
   >Tnc
   >Raffaele
I am not sure what you mean. You can use all the software you use for your
200lx to communicate to your desktop PC.

If you mean the build in software, there is a fax application (doesn't work
with my exp modem), SMS message-center. (works only with GSM). Datacom (same
as in 200lx).

Further a smartcharge-app, some games and IRDA comm. and printdrivers are
build into ROM.

Hope this helps

 PS
   I CANNOT run comlink3 on my 700lx using my exp modem, but it runs fine on
my 200lx. Strange but true. (comlink1 works quite well on both)
Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn       mailto:pruijn@few.eur.nl

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Subject:      windows 2

I installed windows 2 on my stackered (v 1.xx) exp modem with 2 mb flash. I
can start windows after downloading setverm. If I try to start some (any)
dos-program from windows I get an error-message. It says:

windows cannot runs standard dos programs under OS/2.

(or something equivalen). Since I am sure I do NOT have OS/2 on my 200lx, I
don't know what this means. Nice program anyway.


Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn       mailto:pruijn@few.eur.nl

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:10:42 -0500
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Hi all,

Here are my results for the Drive performance test using the batch file posted
here by L. Cavendish. Note, however, that my HP 200LX being a French version, I
had to make an adaptation, which consisted of copying a 50K files 20 times,
instead of the 100K 123us.hlp file being copied ten times. The additional
overhead resulting from this adaptation should be small anyway.

 HARDWARE: HP200LX, Double-speed, using Times2Tech spd31.sys driver
(rel.1.5b):

 * C: 5MB drive, unstacked, 512B/cluster, ~500KB free
 Outside or inside SysMgr, on battery or AC Power, Clean boot or other drivers
loaded:
 _ Read/write on c:
 ~ 7.2s average (dispersion ~0.5s)
 This increases to 8.5s when using the spd31.com speed driver program
instead.
 _ Read from d:, write on c:
 ~ 7.7s average
 Hey, that's terribly slow for a c: drive on a double-speed machine!


 * EXP Thinfax 4MB Ram Drive
 UNSTACKED PORTION, 2k clusters, 109KB free, access using LXMDRV.SYS rel.1.5:
 (I heard Driver release 1.6 is more stable, but don't have it)
 Average time 20.43s (very stable)

 * EXP Thinfax, Stacked portion (10MB) using Stacker 4.0, 8kB/cluster, 1400kB
free space:
 _ Under SystemManager
 Average time 100s (Deviation 1.5s)
 Add 18s when a key like the Ctrl key is held down
 _ Outside SystemManager
 Average time 98.5s (Deviation 0.5s)
 The results are the same on battery or on AC
 Oh, I never realized how slow Stacker was on this drive!

 * 40 MB Epson Flash Memory card (Sandisk OEM): 57kB free, 4kB/cluster
 UNSTACKED PORTION: Read from d:, write to a:
 _ Average 49.8s, very stable with no drivers loaded except double speed
 _ Average 50.1s (deviation 0.2s) with my usual drivers, particularly the
Thinfax flash driver which might interfer
 Add 8s when Ctrl key is held down
 These results are independant of power source.

 * 40MB Epson Card, Stacker 4.0 portion, 100MB, 16kB/cluster, 250kB free
 (Yes, I did fill the 100MB... There are so many great DOS programs available
out here!)
 _ Inside System Manager, on AC Power (battery charging enabled or not)
 or on battery:
 Read and Write on a: Average 73.5s (Deviation 1s)
 _ Outside of SysMgr:
 + On AC power, battery charging is enabled or not:
 Read and write on a: Average 73s (deviation 1s)
 Read from d:, Write on a: Average 63s (deviation 1.2s)
 + On battery:
 Read and write on a: Average 39.7s (deviation 0.5s)
 Read from d:, write to a: Average 27.3s (deviation 0.2s)
 So, my 100MB stacker drive might be faster than the Pretec 128MB card! Yet,
this is really disturbing...

CONCLUSIONS:
 1/ Holding a key down has a negative performance impact, which probably still
occurs when used to disable the special power saving feature of some suspicious
cards (Pretec?) that are faster this way.
 2/ Contrary to popular belief, some cards appear to be faster when NOT on AC
power. System Manager normally has no impact, but has a big impact on my
stacked Sandisk card, which also occurs outside SystemManager when the AC
adapter is connected. I understand the HP runs a program when charging battery
which might have an impact, but here it happens even when batteries are not
charging, and only on my Sandisk card.
 3/ From the specs., flash cards should be about as fast at reading as ROM or
DRAM. However, this is obviously not the case with the EPSON card on my
palmtop. This might be due either to slower access to the PCMCIA slot, or maybe
to the fact that read and write cycles cannot occur simultaneously on the same
flash chip. Even though writing to a flash is supposedly (from chip specs)
about 100 times slower than reading, the impact from reading from ROM seems to
be much higher on my Sandisk card! I gain 12s by reading from d: instead of a:,
whether or not the performance impact for being on AC or under SysMgr occurs or
not, which means reading on a: is unaffected by the slowdown from Point 2/.
 4/ Comparing results from different flash card drives is difficult, because
Flash need to be erased in big chunks before re-writing. Otherwise it would be
hard to explain why Stacker seems to have such a big performance hit on the
EXP, while the stacked portion on the Sandisk card can be faster than the
unstacked one.

Does anyone have similar results, particularly in regard to Stacker being
faster on battery outside of SysMgr, with some cards? I ran the most surprising
tests a good number of times to make sure...

Francois

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              Donald_Collins@CSERVE1.CCMAIL.COMPUSERVE.COM
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I'm curious, what mail reader are you using to access this list?

Are you using the palmtop or desktop?
System Manager software? or DOS based?

Why? What are the advantages?

I use cc:mail REMOTE.EXE (DOS app) on my palmtop.
I use this with REXPORT.EXE so I can archive messages.


Whats your story?

Don.

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Does anyone know what the file DB.ENV is for?  It's 65K in my c:\_dat
directory.  Is this used for the database prog?  Can I purge un-needed
data?

Don.

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are you sure this is correct? I checked mine and it is 81 bytes only. looking
inside, it holds the name of the current (or last exited) database i  opened.
what's inside yours?

jasonyap

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              Peter Scarth <s153231@STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU>
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Some people have recently mentioned problems with QFAX. I find it a fussy
program, it does not seem to tolerate some fax machines, something to do
with handshaking???? Using the same PCMCIA card in the laptop I can
connect fine. For those users down here in oz, try sending a page of stuff
to the Telstra Textfax number 1300 368 999. They will fax you back in
about 15 seconds with a detailed report on you fax setup. I get consistent
straight 'excellent' with my bog standard 200lx /QFAX10 combo. I think
there's nothing wrong with qfax, it's just not all that tolerant of other
fax setups......
Seeya,
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Jorgen - This may be "duck soup" to you and if so just ignore it, but it may
be helpful to others.  I've been using the digest form here for years.
Using Eudora, the simplest way is to scan down the list of subjects until
you find one of interest.  Drag across it to highlight the words of the
subject and then copy it with Ctrl-C; bring up the Find menu with Ctrl-F and
paste the copyied subject into it with Ctrl-V; hit Enter and you are at the
subject in the list; hit Ctrl-G for the next match which will be in the body
of the digest; read it and hit Ctrl-G again to get the next, and on and on
until you get the error message of "Not found.."; hit Ctrl-F and you are
back in the list of suject where you started.

Thsi work very fast for me.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_
..................................................
>Date:    Fri, 13 Feb 1998 04:37:06 -0500
>From:    Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
>Subject: The list server DIGEST Feature
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

>
>Thanks to the many people who took the trouble of emailing me directly to
>suggest the digest feature.
>
>I just received a single, nice 56K package with 51 messages with an
>index at the top: it is much faster to download and read a single big
>message than 51 individual messages. The package is easily transferred
>to the LX for reading while commuting. I'm going to like this!
>
>The way to set it up is to send a message to the list server with an
>empty RE: field and the following line in the body:
>
>SET HPLX-L DIGEST
>
>Jorgen

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On my desktop I use an email program called "Pronto Pro". I download all my
HPLX list into a specific folder and then export the folder into a text file
(Hplist.txt) which I then send to my palmtop. I can then use LXDR to browse
this mail. The one hassle that I find is that if I have to stop the program
in the middle to do some other DOS work, I have no way of returning back to
the place I was reading at the time.


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Hi,

        I have been working with Avi in getting set up for ISP Web access.  An
interesting thing just happened.  While trying to access the Web or
download mail the display started to dim.  Finally I had to shut the
unit off and remove the modem card and things were back to normal.  I
suspect the AT&T modem is just taking to much juice.  The unit was
opperating on AC.  Probably time for a low power modem.  Any thoughts?

Colin

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Subject:      Re: Flash cards speed
Comments: cc: 100774.3617@COMPUSERVE.COM

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 07:13:16 +0000
Message-ID: <19980214071314.AAA29919@Ý12.64.7.89¨>

On 1998-02-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Here are my results for the Drive performance test using the batch
   >file posted here by L. Cavendish. Note, however, that my HP 200LX
   >being a French version, I had to make an adaptation, which
   >consisted of copying a 50K files 20 times, instead of the 100K
   >123us.hlp file being copied ten times. The additional overhead
   >resulting from this adaptation should be small anyway.
   >HARDWARE: HP200LX, Double-speed, using Times2Tech spd31.sys driver

A very impressive bit of testing Francois. FWIW, I tried the test again
on my 2x/6mb 200LX using just drive C to compare the effects of a 10x
copy of 100k file vs 20x copy of 50k file. AC was used, and ran outside
of SysMgr. Each test was averaged on 3 tries each. The result:

100k * 10 times => 3.61 secs
50k  * 20 times => 4.52 secs

So the differences in test methods does have a noticeable impact on the
result.

The batch file that was circulated used d:\_sys\c123us.hlp (size
102,381 bytes) and my 50k test used d:\bin\ccmade.exm (size 50,742 bytes).

Total bytes used for 100k test = 1,023,810 bytes and for 50k test =
1,014,840 bytes, so the 50k test actually moved less data.

I think the longer time for the 50k test is likely due to the overhead in
processing the addtional file open/close operations. Even so, however,
I agree that your times are somewhat slow for a 2x 200LX C drive...tho I'm
at a loss to explain why. Can't answer your Stacker questions either cuz
I don't use it (I'd rather do with less data than to have to wait on slower
response).

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: pcmcia modem

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 07:13:24 +0000
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On 1998-02-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >I was led to believe that the a/c adaptor didnt help with pcmcia
   >cards, that the cards pulled power from your batteries even while
   >the a/c is attached.

This hasn't been my experience. In fact, I think the LX will even charge
your batteries during modem use with the AC plugged in.

I see no significant drop in battery voltage after long (1 hour) modem
sessions with AC.

- Longden


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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX or modem problem
Comments: To: burkec@goldstate.net

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 07:25:00 +0000
Message-ID: <19980214072458.AAA27187@Ý12.64.7.183¨>

On 1998-02-13 burkec@goldstate.net said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >An interesting thing just happened.  While trying to access the Web
   >or download mail the display started to dim.  Finally I had to shut
   >the unit off and remove the modem card and things were back to
   >normal.  I suspect the AT&T modem is just taking to much juice.
   >The unit was opperating on AC.  Probably time for a low power modem.
   >Any thoughts?

My first LX modem was an ATT Keep-In-Touch (14.4). I think I read somewhere
that it drew 169ma of power, but it always gave me the "card battery low"
message when I put it in and got VERY warm during AC or battery use.

Could be that the dimming is related to the heat from the modem as dimming
also happens when the batteries get warm from recharging.

- Longden

PS - I use Megahertz Xjacks now and life is much better.

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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Blue FN key remapping

On 1998-02-12 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >>You might want to look at d:\bin\key200.txt in order to play
   >>around with d:\bin\key200.com
   >>This is a low-level key-remapping utility provided with the 200LX.
   >>I use it to remap the Memo key, but I haven't tried it to do what
   >you want.
   >Someone suggested to use (to remap Fn+e to Fn+r+e):
   >Fn : Fn r ¬r ¬Fn
   >But this would translate Fn into Fn+r *always*, which is not what I
   >want.
   >Instead, I got what I wanted with the following macro file:
   >Fn e : Fn r ¬r ¬Fn e
   >Same for rest of vocals...
   >>This utility isn't mentioned in the manual.

Is there a definitive "keyboard tricks" doc for the LX? I'd like to
have a handy doc file for refernce when I need to use the ALT-number
sequence to create a inverse smiley face symbol as well as the tricks
mentioned above.

Regards.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:31:58 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      LX: Software Carousel and Windows

On 1998-02-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Does anyone know how to make Windows 2.03 let Software Carousel do
   >its task switching?  Whenever I am in windows, even using SLEEPON,
   >I am unable to switch back to another SC area without exiting win
   >first.

I believe what you need is SCKEYFIX. It's in the ETC directory of SC.
I've used it this way and it definitely works.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Larger CF Cards 4 U
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To all HPLX Mailing List members who have so kindly expressed an interest in
Viking products recently, the following is a product update you may be
interested in.

I was in Rancho Santa Margarita today so this news is "straight from the
horse's mouth", so to speak. Viking has decided to use 256Mbyte chips on ALL
of its new cards and has delayed shipment of the 48Mb CF until mid-March.
This is smart because we're starting to see a lot of Korean chips show up in
the US as a result of their currency woes. Prices are falling rapidly and
will probably be no more than 64Mbyte chips are today within 3 months.

The delay will permit the controller to be modified to handle up to 256MB of
addressable memory space. The card densities can then be increased
exponentially to 256MB. Viking is releasing a 48 AND 64MB CF on 16Mar as
well as 80 and 160MB PC Cards on the same date. These will be followed in
Jul-Aug with a 128MB CF card. I have it on good authority that these are
firm dates.

SanDisk has already released a 48MB CF but it uses their "Double Density"
technology. It is SLOOOOWWWW... The Viking (and probably Simple, since they
use a Lexar controller, too) will be faster by 2.0-2.5 times in terms of
read and write speeds, and sustained transfer rates will run up to 2.5 times
faster (SanDisk= 500KB, Viking up to 1.5MB). For some representative
comments on SanDisk speed, refer to the HP palmtop Usenet newsgroup.

You probably want to know costs. CF48 will be $329; CF64 will run $379.
Expect prices to drop quickly as production gets ramped up.

I regret the further delay as I know many of you have expressed an interest
in the CFs. However, I believe the final product will now be better and
perform much more satisfactorily.

If anyone has any questions, please contact me.


-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 13 February, 1998 23:17
Subject: Re: pcmcia modem


>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 07:13:24 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980214071314.AAB29919@Ý12.64.7.89¨>
>
>On 1998-02-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>
>   >I was led to believe that the a/c adaptor didnt help with pcmcia
>   >cards, that the cards pulled power from your batteries even while
>   >the a/c is attached.
>
>This hasn't been my experience. In fact, I think the LX will even charge
>your batteries during modem use with the AC plugged in.
>
>I see no significant drop in battery voltage after long (1 hour) modem
>sessions with AC.
>
>- Longden
>
>
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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:13:26 EST
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I seem to be able to send e mail but not recieve any in my mail box. are they
having problems there? This has been a week now. anyone have a e-mail address
for them
for tech service or contact. TIA Roy

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Subject:      Re: Blue FN key remapping

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:22:39 +0000
Message-ID: <19980214142231.AAB19312@Ý12.64.37.141¨>

On 1998-02-14 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Is there a definitive "keyboard tricks" doc for the LX? I'd like to
   >have a handy doc file for refernce when I need to use the ALT-number
   >sequence to create a inverse smiley face symbol as well as the
   >tricks mentioned above.

I'll second the motion. I think this issue came up before in the last
list-group and someone was going to compile the info for the FAQ, but I
think that ran out of steam.

Useful would be not only the key200 utility (and its uses), but also the
various keyboard tricks that mean something special at bootup time and the
Fn-1/Fn-2 keys which emulate the PC keyboard's GrayMinus and GrayPlus
keys.

Some of the info is in the manual, but scattered and difficult to find
when you need it. If someone already has a summary of all the keys/key-combos
and keyboard utilities that mean something special to the LX, I'd appreciate
a copy too.

- Longden

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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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Hi lxers.

There was mention on the list a week or two ago about the new storage
solutions coming from iomega later this year. Since many of us may not
be aware of it (i wasn't myself till very recently) i thought i'd share
some info on it. It is simply an excerp from their website
(www.iomega.com) chopped down for list and bandwidth purposes :-)


Iomegazine - Products - clik!

The clik! product family is a new suite of low-cost removable storage
products from Iomega. clik! products bring unprecedented removable
storage to  portable digital devices, including digital cameras,
hand-held computers,  personal digital assistants and smart mobile
phones. The product family  includes:

- clik! drives Portable, low-cost,mobile, external drives that will be
designed to be used with virtually any digital portable or desktop =
product.
- clik! drives for OEMs miniature, low-power version of the drive will be
available for manufacturers to build into portable digital products.
- clik! disks Durable 40 megabyte (MB) removable and reusable disks that =
are
about half the size of a credit card and will have a suggested retail
price of $9.95 (U.S.).
- clik! accessories Ultra-lightweight accessories to allow customers to =
use
the clik! drive anywhere.

Iomega's clik! drives and 40MB clik! disks will be designed  to work
with virtually any portable digital or desktop product, including
digital cameras, hand-held computers, personal digital assistants
(PDAs),  smart cellular phones, printers and desktop and notebook
computers. Ideal for  any product that will benefit from small, high
capacity storage, the clik!  product family also holds appeal for
global positioning systems, electronic  tracking systems and hand-held
games.

The clik! product family has  already received broad support from
industry leaders, including endorsements  from Kodak,
Hewlett-Packard's Home Imaging and Portable Computing Divisions,
Microsoft, Hitachi, InFocus Systems, Motorola and Texas Instruments.
Recognizing the need for low-cost, high capacity storage for portable
digital  products, many other industry suppliers have also issued
announcements and/  or endorsements for the clik! product family.

The clik! drive will be small  enough to fit into a shirt pocket and
will boast up to 1MB per second read/  write speeds. The clik! drive
has an IDE/ATAPI interface and will offer a  number of connectors,
including serial and IrDA connections. The internal  clik! drive for
OEMs will be 6.5 millimeters high and have a credit card-  size
footprint. With a 3.3 volt "smart-power" design, the clik! drive will
have a low power requirement; transferring 1megabyte of information
using  clik! uses approximately the same amount of power as lighting a
single  miniature holiday light for one second. The 40 MB, reusable
clik! disks are  about half the size of a credit card and are
interchangeable between the  mobile and internal clik! drives. The
clik! drives and disks will be designed  to withstand the inherent
rigors that are associated with portable products  and will be capable
of withstanding 100G operating shock.

There are no  other products that match the capacity, portability and
low price point of the  clik! drives and disks. Prior to announcement
of the clik! product family,  storage for portable digital products
has been limited to solid-state memory  products. And though limited,
flash memory has the only reasonable installed  base at this point.
However, at $20-$30 per MB, and $50-$100 minimum cost,  flash memory
is prohibitive as mass market removable storage for portable  digital
products. Flash memory will serve a purpose in future products,  but
where customers will benefit from greater than 4MB of storage, we
expect  those products to have both flash memory and clik! drive
storage.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:40:14 -0600
Reply-To:     Ted Heise <theise@netins.net>
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From:         Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> I know some of you use PINE for email at times.  Have you ever had
> mail that shows up as blank in the read-mail screen, but is listed in
> the index list as being fair-size?

I use PINE exclusively for e-mail.  The only thing that comes to
mind is that PINE will not display non-ASCII attachments.  They
do show up in the index screen as part of the file size though.

If you try to read this sort of message you should get a line
that shows what the attachments are.  If you type "v" you will
start up a viewer that will let you view non-standard text and
will let you save binary files.  I've never encountered any
problem using binary files that have come as attachments via
PINE.  Of course I've often had to download them first!

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 08:40:28 -0800
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              Larry Williams <willilc@3-CITIES.COM>
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RE:

>Finally, my question.  Before I put out this kind of cash, does anyone have
>one these modems and what is your experience (especially via cellular
>phone).

I have the 14.4 Motorola Cellect Pocket Modem.  It works great on either
landline or cellular.  On cellular it only connects at between 9600 and 4800
due to limitations of cellular.

Larry

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Subject:      Subject Headers

   >Date:    Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:48:40 EST
   >If we all use LX: as the beginning of the subject header it could
   >help some of our fellow list members screen mail. I know it would
   >help me. Tx Roy

Roy,

Something else you might do. If you send the command:

set hplx-l subj

to the listserv (not the list), all your messages will be preceeded
with the list name, i.e.

ÝHPLX-L¨ Subject Headers

It's a nice listserv feature.

Larry

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:54:13 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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Subject:      Re: Larger CF Cards 4 U
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On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 06:07:38 -0800, "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK=
.NET> wrote:

bt> You probably want to know costs. CF48 will be $329; CF64 will run =
$379.
bt> Expect prices to drop quickly as production gets ramped up.

Bernard, these prices represent _outstanding_ value IMO and it almost
looks like one of the digits before the point got swallowed during
transmission - almost had to rub my eyes to read it.<g> Was that
$3-7-9 for 64Mb?

BTW: Can you give any details on the MTBF of these cards?

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:24:43 -0500
Reply-To:     Stefan Peichl <stefan.peichl@metronet.de>
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I made a new version of SLEEPON which now allows task switch
from Win3.0 to different SoftwareCarousel work areas. Version
2.0 also inverts the screen by default.

You find SLEEPON V2.0 at

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/sleepon.zip

and soon at:

http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

Regards
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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:51:22 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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A few of you may remember my question to the list a few weeks ago asking if
there were any versions of SPICE or PSPICE that would run on the 200LX.  One of
the personal replies I got was from Art Borg, telling me he had a student
version that would probably work.  I told him that that was all I needed since
it was for an introductory circuit design class, but I never heard anything
else from him.  When I read the sad news that he had passed away on Saturday,
February 7, I thought that must explain why I hadn't heard from him.

However, today I received a registered airmail letter from Taiwan, which had in
it a letter with the same text as the e-mail we received from Art's wife
Isabella last week, and the student version disks that Art had mentioned.  What
a nice surprise, not merely because of the program, but because it is a
memorial to our friend, Art Borg.  Even in this time of loss, there was still
time to mail me what I had requested.

Let us all do a good deed such as this for someone else today, and let that be
how we remember our departed friend Art.
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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:23:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Ted Heise <theise@netins.net>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Ted Heise <theise@netins.net> wrote (re problems with PINE):

> I use PINE exclusively for e-mail.  The only thing that comes to
> mind is that PINE will not display non-ASCII attachments.  They
> do show up in the index screen as part of the file size though.

That was the first thing I thought of.  Wasn't it though  8-(

> If you try to read this sort of message you should get a line
> that shows what the attachments are.  If you type "v" you will
> start up a viewer that will let you view non-standard text and
> will let you save binary files.  I've never encountered any
> problem using binary files that have come as attachments via
> PINE.  Of course I've often had to download them first!

Nope, that's not it!  No attachments are shown.  Tried "v" - PINE
responds that the message doesn't contain any attachments.  I've used
PINE for over 2 years on my FreeNet account, and never had any trouble
with attachmed binaries either.  Received plenty of files that way.
The messages that caused the problem were text - they were visible in
the list archives.  They were HTML-ized, but that shouldn't cause a
problem. Plenty of HTML mail comes in every day.

Also tried "e" - export to file.  Produced an empty file.

Tried "f" - forward mail (to this account).  That caused PINE to
immediately abort.

Other people on the list also reported problems caused by the same
msgs - some even had their POP servers temporarily shut down on
receipt of one.  When the author of the messages switched mail
software, the problems stopped.  Last week a couple of messages from
another person did the same thing.

Welcome to the internet Twilight Zone....

Thanks for the suggestions.  I appreciate it.  8-)

-PR
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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:46:12 -0300
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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Super Security

Hi all,

For people, who is concerned, about security...

I'm using Norton Utilities 5.0, there is an utility called Diskreet,
This is a GREAT utility! is has two different kind of encryption, the
most secure is DES, i'm using DES, encryption of my files on the Flash
card, you can protect entire disks, or single files.

I'm protecting all quicken files, and some GDB files, with some VERY
important information of the office, with this encryption.

I keep the files on the flash card, and the DISKREET.EXE, is on the
drive C: (only 150kb), the speed of encryption is ok, considering the
chip of the 200 (mine is single speed).

At the office, we have tested this method, on a Pentium II 266mhz, with
256 mb Ram, it took about 6 hours, with special programs, to "Crack" a
200kb file, protected with DES method.

128 bit encryption is most secure, but, i think that to encrypt a file
on the 200 will take for ever !

A 200kb file with a 128 bit, is taking about 20 hours, to "Crack" it.


This is ok for me, because, i have enough time to change the server
passwords, credit cards, etc, etc.


Hope this helps,


Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:08:14 -1
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On 1998-02-13 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Hello again folks-
   >This is off-topic, so I hope nobody minds.
   >I know some of you use PINE for email at times.  Have you ever had
   >mail that shows up as blank in the read-mail screen, but is listed
   >in the index list as being fair-size?  This has happened with some
   >mail from another listserv (I get that one on my FreeNet account).
   >The msgs show up OK in the listserv archive.  I had asked folks on
   >the other list if they had problems with these msgs, and most did.
   >Some reported that they crashed their providers POP servers. These
   >msgs also can't be forwarded.  I tried sending them from my UNIX
   >FreeNet account to this one, but PINE aborts as soon as "Forward" is
   >selected.
   >Just wondered if this could possibly relate to the stalling that
   >occasionally happens in Post/LX.  Maybe something in the header or
   >body of the msg scrambles the server's brain  8-(
   >Thanks
Hey, Blanco e-mails is what I sometimes have in nettamer. Just the sender of
the message is on top of the screen. That's all.
To make thing even more weird: If I choose to save this message to disk in
some file (sat tmp.txt) and start filer, I can choose view (F8) to this file
and READ THE E-MAIL.

Should I download version 1.10.1 of nettamer to solve this??

Ps  My mailserver doe NOT crash on these e-mails


Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn       mailto:pruijn@few.eur.nl

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:24:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Lars Karlsson <lasse@writeme.com>
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Hi Peniel,

>>Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?
Every week or two, the program stops in the middle of
downloading messages -at the point where it displays
"Deleting message on host".<<

 I also had the same problem with POST.
 Adding MaxSegmentSize=3D512 in WWW.CFG for my ISP
seems to have solved the problem.
 This was a suggestion from Andreas. (POST's author)
 Good luck
 Lars

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:51:48 -0500
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Hi There,
This is my first message to this list which I have been reading for the
last couple of weeks. I have very little experience with the HP200lx but
I'm now convinced that it can be very useful to me. I'd like to buy a
new one, but none of my local electonics or computer stores carries it.
Can someone please tell me where to get one, and what is a fair price?
Also, does it come with an AC adapter and a cable (and software) to
connect it to my pc, or are they purchased seperately?

Thank you for your help,  Stan
--

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:36:58 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:24:43 -0500, Stefan Peichl <stefan.peichl@metronet.=
de> wrote:

st> I made a new version of SLEEPON which now allows task switch
st> from Win3.0 to different SoftwareCarousel work areas. Version
st> 2.0 also inverts the screen by default.

Wow! What a marvellous job, Stefan. I have already installed it and it
works like a charm - thank you very much!

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:28:27 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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From:         John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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What model # is the modem? It might be a good one to avoid. According to my
data sheet (if I have the right model) it uses 200Ma of current- too much.
A better one is teh Smart Modular Technologies ST1414L which uses 100 Ma
Full and 4Ma in standby and sleep. In sleep it only uses a little more than
the serial port. And its a 14.4k too.

At 10:37 PM 2/13/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>        I have been working with Avi in getting set up for ISP Web access.
 An
>interesting thing just happened.  While trying to access the Web or
>download mail the display started to dim.  Finally I had to shut the
>unit off and remove the modem card and things were back to normal.  I
>suspect the AT&T modem is just taking to much juice.  The unit was
>opperating on AC.  Probably time for a low power modem.  Any thoughts?
>
>Colin
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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:28:28 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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From:         John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: pcmcia modem
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What AC adapter and modem are you using? I am using a Radio Shack rated at
780 Ma and when I used it with the Epson 14.4k modem that has a 135Ma drain
it would still use battery power and it wouldn't charge the battery.

John

At 02:13 AM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 07:13:24 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980214071314.AAB29919@Ý12.64.7.89¨>
>
>On 1998-02-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>
>   >I was led to believe that the a/c adaptor didnt help with pcmcia
>   >cards, that the cards pulled power from your batteries even while
>   >the a/c is attached.
>
>This hasn't been my experience. In fact, I think the LX will even charge
>your batteries during modem use with the AC plugged in.
>
>I see no significant drop in battery voltage after long (1 hour) modem
>sessions with AC.
>
>- Longden
>
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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:33:01 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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Subject:      Memo
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Hello

I was wondering if someone could help me with this. Memo has started acting
wierd. For some reason (I haven't changed anything) it will not delete the
last character typed when I hit the backspace key. It is acting like the
left arrow. I have to use the del key to delete any characters. Also the
enter key will not move the entire line down when I press it. When I move
it to the beginning of the line and press it it moves the cursor down but
ignores any charcters. Any suggestions?

John

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 06:56:40 -0800
Reply-To:     Reed <papertrl@tcd.net>
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A while back I posted a question about the XJ4336 (33.6) Modem, and whether
it was compatible with the 200LX.  I received three replies, and I thank
those individuals very much.  I finally received a reply to a parallel
inquiry I made to US Robotics.  (Apparently 3com has bought USR.  That's who
sent a reply.)  Anyway, for those interested, they do not recommend this
modem "...due to power issues..."

Alas, I have a card modem I can't use.  If there's anyone on this list who
has a laptop or cell phone that could use this modem, please negotiate with
me privately:  papertrl@tcd.net .  I have no idea what a used modem such as
this is worth.  I would be willing to trade for, say, a 14.4 card modem I
could use in my 200LX.

Reed
Paper Trail Software
papertrl@tcd.net

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:32:16 -0800
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From:         Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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Longdon & John,

        Thanks for your replies.  I an convinced that it is the modem that is
at fault.  I runs quite hot.  AT&T 28.8 data fax, model #3765-B1-261 D.
Time to buy a new modem.

Colin

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> What model # is the modem? It might be a good one to avoid. According to my
> data sheet (if I have the right model) it uses 200Ma of current- too much.
> A better one is teh Smart Modular Technologies ST1414L which uses 100 Ma
> Full and 4Ma in standby and sleep. In sleep it only uses a little more than
> the serial port. And its a 14.4k too.
>
> At 10:37 PM 2/13/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >        I have been working with Avi in getting set up for ISP Web access.
>  An
> >interesting thing just happened.  While trying to access the Web or
> >download mail the display started to dim.  Finally I had to shut the
> >unit off and remove the modem card and things were back to normal.  I
> >suspect the AT&T modem is just taking to much juice.  The unit was
> >opperating on AC.  Probably time for a low power modem.  Any thoughts?

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Date:         Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:32:15 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Larger CF Cards 4 U
Comments: To: Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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BTW, MTBF is difficult to determine as this is a solid state product.
Warranty is 5 years.

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From: Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 14 February, 1998 09:09
Subject: Re: Larger CF Cards 4 U


On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 06:07:38 -0800, "Bernard A. Torbik"
<btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

bt> You probably want to know costs. CF48 will be $329; CF64 will run $379.
bt> Expect prices to drop quickly as production gets ramped up.

Bernard, these prices represent _outstanding_ value IMO and it almost
looks like one of the digits before the point got swallowed during
transmission - almost had to rub my eyes to read it.<g> Was that
$3-7-9 for 64Mb?

BTW: Can you give any details on the MTBF of these cards?

Regards,

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Subject:      Re: pcmcia modem
Comments: cc: musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:09:43 +0000
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On 1998-02-14 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >What AC adapter and modem are you using? I am using a Radio Shack
   >rated at 780 Ma and when I used it with the Epson 14.4k modem that
   >has a 135Ma drain it would still use battery power and it wouldn't
   >charge the battery.

Sounds like you may have a problem with the LX's charging circuit.

I use the HP AC adapter at home and a RadioShack adapter at work. The RS was
mentioned in the FAQ (part #273-1652B, tho that may be a bit old...I think
mine was 1652D or something). The RS adapter is only 500mA & $14. OTOH, I
bought another RS adapter of the same kind and it started to act up on me
after a few months...so I won't swear by them.

I use the adapters with Megahertz XJ1144 and XJ3144 modems (14.4k) and
formerly with an ATT modem. All worked fine with the adapter, at least to
the extent that the batteries didn't appear to discharge while AC was active.

Hard to say whether the exact problem is the modem, the LX or the adapter.
I would doubt the modem tho, cuz the LX should be driving the modem from
AC while it's plugged in...unless the AC isn't putting out enough juice.

Do the batteries charge properly without the modem?

- Longden

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:09:51 +0000
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On 1998-02-14 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I was wondering if someone could help me with this. Memo has
   >started acting wierd. For some reason (I haven't changed anything)
   >it will not delete the last character typed when I hit the
   >backspace key. It is acting like the left arrow. I have to use the
   >del key to delete any characters. Also the enter key will not move
   >the entire line down when I press it. When I move it to the
   >beginning of the line and press it it moves the cursor down but
   >ignores any charcters. Any suggestions?

This item has come up before, either in the last listgroup or early in the
life of this one. I forget the conclusions and/or solutions.

Hopefully someone else has a better memory, or you should search the archives
(of both listgroups). Sorry I don't have more.

- Longden

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On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:00:07 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:57:11 EST
>From:    Roy Stroud <Agentrapid@AOL.COM>
>Subject: LX:Newton Keyboard
>
>Anyone know where i can mail order just a newton keyboard PN:x0035ll/a,
>not a converted one.

www.cdw.com has them backordered for USD $84.83 (search for "Newton")
www.clubpda.com has what looks like the right keyboard for $79.95
or you might try Micro Center (if there's one near you)
or possibly CompUSA, although their Web site doesn't show it

Also the Apple Store at www.apple.com lists it as a $79 accessory for the
MessagePad 2100, you might be able to order it separately by phone at
1-800-795-1000. And you can sometimes find deals in the newton usenet
groups, someone just sold a new Newt keyboard for USD $35...

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John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>,Internet Writes:
>Hello
>
>I was wondering if someone could help me with this. Memo has started
>acting
>wierd. For some reason (I haven't changed anything) it will not delete the
>last character typed when I hit the backspace key. It is acting like the
>left arrow. I have to use the del key to delete any characters. Also the
>enter key will not move the entire line down when I press it. When I move
>it to the beginning of the line and press it it moves the cursor down but
>ignores any charcters. Any suggestions?
>John,

You've got it in Replace mode.  Hit Ins (FN+Del) to turn it off.  Geeeez!
;-)

Regards,

Damien Gardner Jnr
Administrator,
Engineering OnLine, Australia

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This is a reply i got about using lx as the header t help some of our friends
screen the lx list from other mail. best idea yet. Thank you larry
Tx Roy

On 1998-02-14 Agentrapid@aol.com said to lfeldman@voicenet.com
   >I don't know how to send the command to listserv as you stated.
   >could you help me with this.better than my idea though. I like it.
   >Tx Roy

Sure Roy -

Create a message, addressed to the following:

listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu

It doesn't matter what "Subject" you use, so just call the subject
"set" (no quotes". In the body of the message, place the following
text:

set hplx-l subj

That's all you need to place in the message. OK - now you send it. That
should take care of it for you.

Good luck!

Larry

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Subject:      Super Security...

Martin said:
<<A 200KB file with a 128bit is taking about 20 hours to "Crack it". >>>
Did I get this right, you can crack triple DES  on a desktop in a day??
Shouldn't be possible. The US "export strength" key size (56?) has been
cracked in response to a RSA challenge, and I think they might even have
done 60 or 64, but I was under the impression from all I've read that
the time reqd for 128 was a gazillion years (.... by which time the sun
will have gone supernova, making things moot... :-)    If you want super
security you can also use Securedevice to make an encrypted volume on
your flash disk that will appear as another drive. You'll need to login
with a passphrase, and there is a slight slowdown (barely noticeable) as
it encrypts/decrypts on the fly. It also uses tripleDES.
Suresh.

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I am the dear author of palmtop freeware providing you with
programs like LxPic, LxMap, LxPro, Sleepon ...

Now I want to be provided with a MEGAHERTZ XJACK 14400 modem.
I tried several places (mentioned on this list) to buy one,
but my problem is, that I live in Germany, and they all do not
take international orders :-(

My question is: Has anyone of you a full functional XJACK modem
left and is willing to ship it international for about $30?

Maybe a power user of my programs has a freeware modem left
which would indeed significantly simplify the paying
procedure ;-)

Please contact me via private email. Thank you!

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Date: 2/14/98 9:14AM
To: Donald Collins at CSERVE1
Subject: LX: CC-Mail/Palmtop.com
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============== Begin part 2 ==========================

>>I seem to be able to send e mail but not recieve any in my mail box.
are they having problems there? This has been a week now. anyone have
a e-mail address for them for tech service or contact.
TIA Roy<<

I dont use the service but I have played arround with cc:Mail
(palmtop) and DIALIN.EXE.  I found that the name displayed in my top
card had to be the same as my registered e-mail name.  Weird.

How much is the service? What area code do you dial?

Regards.

Don.

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============== Begin part 2 ==========================

Looks like binary code.  I'll rename the file and see what happens.

Don.


>are you sure this is correct? I checked mine and it is 81 bytes only.
>looking inside, it holds the name of the current (or last exited)
>database i  opened. what's inside yours?
>
>jasonyap

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On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:24:19, you wrote:

> Hi Peniel,
>
> Do any of you folks ever have this happen with Post/LX?
> Every week or two, the program stops in the middle of
> downloading messages -at the point where it displays
> "Deleting message on host".<<

> I also had the same problem with POST.
> Adding MaxSegmentSize=3D512 in WWW.CFG for my ISP
> seems to have solved the problem.
> This was a suggestion from Andreas. (POST's author)


Hi Lard & List,

Are you sure it wasn't READER.CFG and not WWW.CFG ?

If so under what section did you add MaxSegmentSize=3D512 ?
Regards,

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> If so under what section did you add MaxSegmentSize=3D512 ?

In www.cfg in the ISP section. For example if you use say IBM you have
a section like so

ÝIBM¨
Port=3D1
Baud=3D9600
Modem=3D1
... Login, password etc
....
DNS_IP=3D165.87.194.244
DNS2_IP=3D165.87.201.244
Script=3DIBM_Script
OmniGo=3D0
My_IP=3D0.0.0.0
MaxSegmentSize=3D512

Just add it like so

Cheers, Tony

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http://espmail.com/palmtop.htm the service is free check it out. Roy

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From: Edward A. Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
>* UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories.

Unix is a trademark of the X/Open group now.
Maybe you should just drop that line from your email
signature, it's way out of date.

            Yi

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>Date:    Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:13:52 -0500
>From:    Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>Subject: Re: Memo
>
>Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:09:51 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980215020941.AAB16244@Ý12.64.7.136¨>
>
>On 1998-02-14 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>   >I was wondering if someone could help me with this. Memo has
>   >started acting wierd. For some reason (I haven't changed anything)
>   >it will not delete the last character typed when I hit the
>   >backspace key. It is acting like the left arrow. I have to use the
>   >del key to delete any characters. Also the enter key will not move
>   >the entire line down when I press it. When I move it to the
>   >beginning of the line and press it it moves the cursor down but
>   >ignores any charcters. Any suggestions?
>
>This item has come up before, either in the last listgroup or early in
>the
>life of this one. I forget the conclusions and/or solutions.
>
>Hopefully someone else has a better memory, or you should search the
>archives
>(of both listgroups). Sorry I don't have more.
>
>- Longden
>
I believe that the problem then was in the particular file being edited.
John, is this happening to you whenever you enter Memo, even by <F3> from
Phone or Apptmgr, or just in one file? Also, have you tried rebooting
(not memory clear, just rebooting), in case there's a TSR or code page
remap hanging around in memory somewhere?

Jon Barrett

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>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:22:29 -0500
>From:    Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>Subject: Re: Blue FN key remapping
>
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:22:39 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980214142231.AAB19312@Ý12.64.37.141¨>
>
>On 1998-02-14 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>
>   >Is there a definitive "keyboard tricks" doc for the LX? I'd like
>to
>   >have a handy doc file for refernce when I need to use the
>ALT-number
>   >sequence to create a inverse smiley face symbol as well as the
>   >tricks mentioned above.
>
>I'll second the motion. I think this issue came up before in the last
>list-group and someone was going to compile the info for the FAQ, but
>I
>think that ran out of steam.
>
>Useful would be not only the key200 utility (and its uses), but also
>the
>various keyboard tricks that mean something special at bootup time and
>the
>Fn-1/Fn-2 keys which emulate the PC keyboard's GrayMinus and GrayPlus
>keys.
>
>Some of the info is in the manual, but scattered and difficult to find
>when you need it. If someone already has a summary of all the
>keys/key-combos
>and keyboard utilities that mean something special to the LX, I'd
>appreciate
>a copy too.
>
>- Longden
>
"Smiley", inverse "Smiley", etc. are part of the standard IBM PC DOS
extended ASCII character set - most DOS references, etc. have a table of
those in there somewhere. Note: the Windows character set isn't the same.
The first 32 characters can also be entered in some applications as ¬A -
¬Z, ¬Ý, ¬\, ¬¨, ¬¬, ¬_; in others as ¬P followed by the control code.
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On 1998-02-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to orca86@ix.netcom.com

   >I'm using Norton Utilities 5.0, there is an utility called Diskreet,
   >This is a GREAT utility! is has two different kind of encryption,

   >At the office, we have tested this method, on a Pentium II 266mhz,
   >with 256 mb Ram, it took about 6 hours, with special programs, to
   >"Crack" a 200kb file, protected with DES method.

   >Hope this helps,
   >Martin
   >Marseb@giga.com.ar

Have you tried PGP 2.6.2 or PGP 2.6.2i?  For your purposes it
might be a better choice than Diskreet.  Even on a 200LX a
512-bit or 1024-key isn't that bad.

----- PGP 2.6.2 Public Key -----
http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBCAAC24D

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Stefan:

I don't have an extra X-Jack modem, but if I did I would be more than
happy to ship it to you. Your software has proved invaluable to me. Good
luck!!! If there IS anything that I can help with just let me know. I'll
keep my eyes open while prowling the 'net for a modem for you.

Jeff

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>From:    Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
>I'm using Norton Utilities 5.0, there is an utility called Diskreet,
>This is a GREAT utility! is has two different kind of encryption, the

I've used DISKREET but I prefer the freeware(?) SecureDevice program.
It uses the IDEA cipher instead of DES.

Russ

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I have a copy of Stacker 4.0 for sale. It is Brand new and is still =
sealed with the original shrink wrap. Disk format is 3 1/2" HD 1.4MB =
floppy disks. I am now asking $25.00 which includes shipping within =
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:22:39, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> In www.cfg in the ISP section. For example if you use say IBM you=
 have
> a section like so


ÝIBM¨
> Port=3D1
> Baud=3D9600
> Modem=3D1
> .... Login, password etc
> .....
> DNS_IP=3D165.87.194.244
> DNS2_IP=3D165.87.201.244
> Script=3DIBM_Script
> OmniGo=3D0
> My_IP=3D0.0.0.0
> MaxSegmentSize=3D512
>
> Just add it like so

Thanks for the reply Tony!

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Thaddeus did have some interesting Japanese software on their site but I
noticed today that it's gone. Does anyone know if they have an FTP site
with these Japanses programs which is available for public download?

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HP>Have you tried PGP 2.6.2 or PGP 2.6.2i?  For your purposes it
HP>might be a better choice than Diskreet.  Even on a 200LX a
HP>512-bit or 1024-key isn't that bad.

   Yes., but i still prefer NORTON, eternal love, from my DOS days :)


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HP><<A 200KB file with a 128bit is taking about 20 hours to "Crack it". >>>

   I did'nt tested this, it's from a "hacker" magazine, i have only been
able to crack a simple DES, i think 40 bit encryption, 128 is pretty
secure, but not IMPOSSIBLE to do it, the machine was a digital, with 512
mb ram, i don't know what software was involved on that, i have used a
modified version of "Infamous Angel", and "Fuckercrack", on the machine
mentioned (Pentium II 266mhz, 256 mb ram)

HP>Did I get this right, you can crack triple DES  on a desktop in a day??
HP>Shouldn't be possible. The US "export strength" key size (56?) has been
HP>cracked in response to a RSA challenge, and I think they might even have
HP>done 60 or 64, but I was under the impression from all I've read that
HP>the time reqd for 128 was a gazillion years (.... by which time the sun
HP>will have gone supernova, making things moot... :-)                  per

   Also, i have heard that the Russian hackers, are making a new code of
encryption, that will make the 128, a child game....

Will that run on the 200 ? :)

HP>security you can also use Securedevice to make an encrypted volume on
HP>your flash disk that will appear as another drive. You'll need to login
HP>with a passphrase, and there is a slight slowdown (barely noticeable) as
HP>it encrypts/decrypts on the fly. It also uses tripleDES.
HP>Suresh.

   I tested Securedivice a time ago, but i did'nt like it, where i can
get a new version, if it is freeware, or shareware ?


   Note: I'm not a HACKER!, i'm only working as Systems Support, and i
want to make my work's systems to work better and safe, so i like to
learn about encryption, viruses, VCL's, and it's a good way to realize
what "crackeable" are almost all systems


   Martin
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Has anyone else noticed that with the latest version of lxpic that it
puts a series of vertical lines on the LX's display upon exiting the
program? I'm just wondering if this is how the program works or if I have
a bad copy, the older versions I had did not do this.

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Hello All-

I have a question regarding the expanded memory manager, emm200.  I've
downloaded version 2.00 and have been trying to install it on my HP
200LX palmtop PC, but cannot succeed because makeems fails.

After a normal startup (emm200.exe is not installed in config.sys) of
the palmtop, I open a DOS window and type:

C:\> makeems 8

as described in the emm200e.doc file.  This program runs ok, I think,
but it's hard to tell.  It starts off by echoing some unintelligible
characters to the screen (Japanese characters?) followed by (y/n).  I
type "y" and hit <enter> key and there are more unintelligible
characters echoed to the screen with C:\EMM200.DAT that are
recognizable to me.

When I chkdsk c:\emm200.dat however, I always get at least 2
non-contiguous blocks, and chkdsk complains about other errors.  I
have repeatedly fixed the problems with chkdsk /f and deleted
emm200.dat (after attrib -r emm200.dat) and started with a fresh newly
checked disk and tried again, but the result is always basically the
same as above.  I've tried answering "n" to the apparent question of
(y/n) and that seems to simply stop the program from proceeding any
farther for it does not create emm200.dat when I do this.  I've also
tried a startup without reading any startup files (config.sys or
autoexec.bat) and tried deleting everything on the C:\ drive before
trying makeems 8, but the result is always the same.  I always get at
least 2 non-contiguous blocks for emm200.dat.  I've also tried
makeems 4 and makeems 2, but these fail in very similar ways as did
makeems 8.

I will tell you about 2 hardware modifications of my palmtop that
might be associated with this problem.  I have the TechSpeed and the
TechRAM upgrade from Thomas Rundel in Germany.  Therefore, my 200LX
clock operates at twice the normal frequency, and my C:\ drive has a
total of 4MB of space rather than 2MB of space.

Also, in case this helps, when I use an old version of NU.EXE (Norton
Utilities) to examine the C: drive, I learn that:

sector       0     is for the boot area
sectors  1 - 35    are for the FAT
sectors 36 - 39    are for the root directory and
sectors 40 - 8895  are for data

Also note that NU.EXE reports that there are 512 bytes per sector on
my C: drive, 1 sector per cluster, 1 FAT, 64 root directory entries
(possible), 35 sectors per FAT, 8856 clusters (Information from DOS),
8896 sectors (Information from the boot record), and that the offset
to FAT is 1, the offset to directory is 36 (Information from DOS), and
the offset to data is 40 (Information from DOS).

Based on the above, and the fact (from emm200e.doc) that emm200.dat
must start at the 16KB mark, and the fact (from emm200e.doc) that
makeems must rewrite the FAT, it looks as though makeems cannot
rewrite my FAT as it apparently should.  Do I understand correctly
that because emm200.dat must start at the 16KB mark, that it must
start at sector 31?  Since this falls within the FAT boundaries, it
makes sense that makeems must rewrite my FAT, but I don't understand
why it's failing.

Any help that anyone can offer would be much appreciated!  Thank you!


Kevin



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Would someone be so kind as to send me a copy of their configuration
files for WWWLX and PostLX so that I can get mine set up properly?  This
seems like the quickest way to find out how best to optimize these progs
so I may use my 200LX for this type of thing.  thanks(I hope)
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Larry Feldman wrote:
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> It's a nice listserv feature.


Speaking of listserv features, does anyone have any idea why it sometimes takes
days to receive mail from the list?  For example, it took me about 24 hours to
receive the message I sent about Art Borg, and I have received no mail from the
list since then, despite the fact that the archived digest shows that at least
6 messages have been sent since then...
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Speaking of listserv features, does anyone have any idea why it sometimes takes
> days to receive mail from the list?  For example, it took me about 24 hours to
> receive the message I sent about Art Borg, and I have received no mail from the
> list since then, despite the fact that the archived digest shows that at least
> 6 messages have been sent since then...

I've noticed the same thing. Sometimes the posts go through rather
quickly and other times it takes up to a day.

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At 10:01 PM 2/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, David Sargeant wrote:
>
>> Speaking of listserv features, does anyone have any idea why it
sometimes takes
>> days to receive mail from the list?  For example, it took me about 24
hours to
>> receive the message I sent about Art Borg, and I have received no mail
from the
>> list since then, despite the fact that the archived digest shows that at
least
>> 6 messages have been sent since then...
>
>I've noticed the same thing. Sometimes the posts go through rather
>quickly and other times it takes up to a day.

I've noticed that I haven't been able to post since the end of January.
If this one goes through, it'll be a miracle.  Any ideas?

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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At 06:33 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>I was wondering if someone could help me with this. Memo has started acting
>wierd. For some reason (I haven't changed anything) it will not delete the
>last character typed when I hit the backspace key. It is acting like the
>left arrow. I have to use the del key to delete any characters. Also the
>enter key will not move the entire line down when I press it. When I move
>it to the beginning of the line and press it it moves the cursor down but
>ignores any charcters. Any suggestions?
>
>John

Hi John,

I really couldn't tell you what's going on.  Judging from experience from
other word processors, though, you might consider looking to see if insert
is off.  I had an icky Microsoft IDE that did that - maybe Memo does too.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Martin Sebastian wrote:

ÝSecureDevice¨
>    I tested Securedivice a time ago, but i did'nt like it, where i can
> get a new version, if it is freeware, or shareware ?
>

It is Freeware or possibly Public Domain. The patented IDEA encryption
algorithms it uses are only free for non-commercial use.

The paranoid will be pleased to hear that it comes with sourcecode
too... ;-)

It is availiable from utopia.hacktic.nl (via ftp), but I don't know the
rules as to export and import of cryptologi software so you'd be wise to
check your country's regulations first.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:50:48 +0000
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On 1998-02-15 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >When I chkdsk c:\emm200.dat however, I always get at least 2
   >non-contiguous blocks, and chkdsk complains about other errors.  I
   >have repeatedly fixed the problems with chkdsk /f and deleted
   >emm200.dat (after attrib -r emm200.dat) and started with a fresh
   >newly checked disk and tried again, but the result is always
   >basically the same as above.

I don't use emm200 myself (I use tremm from Times2Tech), but if emm200 and
makeems needs a chunk of contiguous disk space, maybe you should run
Norton's SpeedDisk program (since you have Norton Utilities) or Defrag from
DOS 6.x (I think that'll work).

Running chkdsk /f fixes FAT errors, but non-contiguous files are not
considered an error. Your largest available chunk of contiguous space
may not be big enough for makeems.

Another alternative would be to copy all files off the C drive (ie to
flash card if you had one), delete all files on C, and copy the files
back...this seems like it should work, but I don't know for sure but
you defintely have to be careful.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:36:56,Kevin S. Ford wrote:

> I will tell you about 2 hardware modifications of my palmtop that
> might be associated with this problem.  I have the TechSpeed and the
> TechRAM upgrade from Thomas Rundel in Germany.  Therefore, my 200LX
> clock operates at twice the normal frequency, and my C:\ drive has=
 a
> total of 4MB of space rather than 2MB of space.


> Any help that anyone can offer would be much appreciated!  Thank you!


Hi Kevin,

EMM200 wouldn't work with the memory upgrade. You need to visit Times2Tech =

at http://www.Times2Tech.com and download their memory manager. Make
sure you have your password.
Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:19:00 -0400
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:36:56 -0500, "Kevin S. Ford" <ksford@CYBERTOURS.COM=
> wrote:

ks> I have a question regarding the expanded memory manager, emm200.  =
I've
ks> downloaded version 2.00 and have been trying to install it on my HP
ks> 200LX palmtop PC, but cannot succeed because makeems fails.
ks>
ks> I will tell you about 2 hardware modifications of my palmtop that
ks> might be associated with this problem.  I have the TechSpeed and the
ks> TechRAM upgrade from Thomas Rundel in Germany...

There's your problem right there Kevin. You'll need the techram ems
driver (tremm) with this machine! Can't say exactly where you can get
it but the supplier of the mem upgrade is a good starting point.

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Subject:      Re: Super Security...

HP>It is Freeware or possibly Public Domain. The patented IDEA encryption
HP>algorithms it uses are only free for non-commercial use.

HP>The paranoid will be pleased to hear that it comes with sourcecode
HP>too... ;-)

   Sourcecode ? C ?, or Assebler ?


HP>It is availiable from utopia.hacktic.nl (via ftp), but I don't know the
HP>rules as to export and import of cryptologi software so you'd be wise to
HP>check your country's regulations first.

   Ok, thanks for the info!

   My country regulations ?
   The supreme court of justice, last week said that the software
   Copying (commercial) is not infrigment ! Can you believe it ?!?!

   The only country that can use 128 bit, is USA, the encryption
   software available here (Argentina) is only 64, so i bought mine
   through a dealer in US.
   A i said before, 128 is pretty secure, but not IMPOSSIBLE to crack.
   The software companies that makes this software (128 bit) have been
   "permited" to sell this software only in US, one of the problems is
   that NSA "want" to brake the code in no more than a day.
   A more complex code is possible, but NSA, will have to ask for help
   to Mr. Bill... :)


HP>Regards,

HP>Laust

HP>---
HP> ///  Laust Brock-Nannestad - laustbn@diku.dk  -  HPLX+C64+SID   ///
HP>/// Jamais Vu - The Feeling You've Never Been Here              ///

    Martin
    Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:49:48 -0500
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:41:52 -0500
From: Suresh Nirody <snirody@iumc.iupui.edu>
To: hplx-l@uconnvm.edu
Subject: Marathon motoring

** Proprietary **

Several months ago I got home and turned on the TV and caught the tail
end of a report on MIT doing research during a marathon. The runners had
swallowed a pill-sized transmitter that took temperature readings of the
runners' cores, transmitted them to a receiver that fed them to a
handheld. The handheld used a Motorola PM100D to send the data to a data
center, and the whole thing could be followed on-line on the WWW. I
asked in HPHAND on CI$ if anyone had seen the whole broadcast (to see if
they had said which handheld had been used) but recd zero response.
Well, an account can be found at
http://ttt.www.media.mit.edu/pia/marathonman/  It doesn't really give
much on the handheld, but if you follow the links you'll find that they
used a HPx00lx for the Boston marathon in April 1997, but switched to a
"..more robust Windows CE..." for the SF marathon :-(
Suresh

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:06:49 +0100
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Hi:

Two tips that might be useful for some of you.

1 A way to amaze Psion-users: Make on your desktop with PowerPoint a
slide-master with 640x200 pixels. Go into the presentation mode - copy a
screenshot (600x800) to a painting program. Crop the picture to 640x200 and
save it as .pcx. Copy such presentation-pictures into a directory on your
hp. Than use lxpic to view this presentation. Looks like buildt in
PowerPoint. All you than need is a video-out for your hp  :)

2 To save the screen while recharging my batteries I call (out of a batch)
disp.exe (with option o). Then I call getkey to wait for a key pressed.
After charging I press a key - and this batch calls disp again (with any
other option than o).

2k regards
Dieter

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:28:43 -0500
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I'm no cryptologist and I don't now the state of the art, but
some time ago I wrote a tiny utility called CRYPT. It is
included in my utility collection PEICHLS.ZIP at

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/peichls.zip

CRYPT.COM is (as you expect from me) very small and very fast.
You may use a default or variable lenght key to encode a file
and the same key decodes the file again. Please read
PEICHLS.DOC for an short explanation on how to use CRYPT.

I never tried a professional tool in order to break my key.
Maybe one of you could try that for me. I am very interested in
the result (hopefully measured in hours and not seconds).

At least CRYPT should hide your loveletters from being red
by your little sister ;-)

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Subject:      Super Security...

>From:    Suresh Nirody <SNIRODY@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU>
>security you can also use Securedevice to make an encrypted volume on
 ...
>it encrypts/decrypts on the fly. It also uses tripleDES.

SecureDevice uses the IDEA cipher, not DES.
IDEA is supposed to be very good.

Russ

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:08:25 -0500
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> Has anyone else noticed that with the latest version of
> lxpic that it puts a series of vertical lines on the LX's
> display upon exiting the program? I'm just wondering if this
> is how the program works or if I have a bad copy, the older
> versions I had did not do this.

this happened only on very few palmtops. Mid december 1997 I
patched LXPIC V6.0 to correct this misbehaviour. The patched
version replaced the old versions at the known sites.

That means: If you have the problem on your palmtop, just
download LXPIC again.

Regards
Stefan

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:31:16 -0500
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Jeff & others,

check out  ftp://ftp.libertynet.org/site/graphiti/hplx/Japan/index.html

I put the files there, probably temporarily.  I might remove them in a
couple of weeks.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:06:51 -0800
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This weekend I accidentally deleted the index.htm page to my web site.  Does
anybody on this list happen to have a cached copy of it on their hard drive?  A
simple search through all .htm files in the directory for "Palmtop Adventure"
would probably find it.  If nobody has one, I'll have to go through the tedious
steps of rebuilding it.  :-(
NOTE: if you do have a copy, don't go to the site before saving it elsewhere,
or it will likely be overwritten!
--
The 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp is temporarily
down.  Please visit again soon.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:13:02 -0500
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A good source for japanese programs is:

http://www.vector.co.jp/common/dos/util/machine/hp/00_index.html

BTW: I just tried the Thaddeus page, and while it took "forever to
load", it is still there!

http://www.thaddeus.com/ftpj.htm

Cheers,

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Subject:      Web site trouble...

HP>This weekend I accidentally deleted the index.htm page to my web site.  Does
HP>anybody on this list happen to have a cached copy of it on their hard drive?
HP>simple search through all .htm files in the directory for "Palmtop Adventure
HP>would probably find it.  If nobody has one, I'll have to go through the tedi
HP>steps of rebuilding it.  :-(
HP>NOTE: if you do have a copy, don't go to the site before saving it elsewhere
HP>or it will likely be overwritten!

   I have a copy of "A Palmtop Adventure" on paper...i can search for
   the disks, does this helps ?


HP>The 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp is temporarily
HP>down.  Please visit again soon.

   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:58:50 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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How large is the entire S.U.P.E.R. site?  If someone was to download all
the software and stuff at the SUPER site, how large would the total file
list be?  I'm leading-up to asking someone to email the entire site to
me.

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:29:16 -0500
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Hi group-

I've been trying to give the RS 1200mAH NiMH cells a fair trial in
spite of their initially poor results.  Somebody (I think it was
Andreas or Avi) mentioned that NiMH need several charge cycles to
stabilize.  The latest results seem to agree.  For several cycles I've
only got a little better than 5 hours of use.  ABC/LX was set for:
        Max volts    2.83
        Stall time   4Hrs
        Max time     12Hrs
The cells would reach 2.81V in 4hrs or less, then stall.  Total charge
of about 8hrs.

On the last charge cycle, the pattern changed - it took almost 5hrs=
 to
reach 2.79V, stalled there for 3hrs, hit 2.81 and stalled for 4hrs.=

Total of about 12hrs.  So far I have a little over 7 hrs of use on
these cells.  Not great, but things ARE improving.

BTW - check out D&A's page  http://www.dasoft.com  they have some new
stuff about ABC/LX.  There's a neat feature I don't find in the manual
- "expert mode".  This gives you a bunch of additional options in the
ÝMENU¨-Setup-Options dialog box.  Also changes the F7 (Reason) label=
 to
"Huh?" - cute!  8-)

-PR
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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 03:09:22 +0000
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1/ if some one try to crack a protected file, 1, 2, 8 or 20 hours
will not make the difference.

2/ if your protected data are on a ram card, where is the 56 or 128 b
key?
on the ram card too?

3/for my self, I never trust any computer (I know they liar)

4/I like a simple password (easy to remember) and a safe area for my
data.

5/don't forguet, no software will protect your data again
a guinea pig!
(because software are soft :-)

Al
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:47:29 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WIN3.0 and SC with new SLEEPON V2.0

Kewl! Thanx, dude.

I really apreciate the fact that people like you take the time to
develop neat stuph like sleepon and distribute it freely. This means I
won't need sckeyfix and won't have to manually invert the screen when
windoze runz.

Thanks again!

On 1998-02-14 stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I made a new version of SLEEPON which now allows task switch
   >from Win3.0 to different SoftwareCarousel work areas. Version
   >2.0 also inverts the screen by default.
   >You find SLEEPON V2.0 at
   >http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/sleepon.zip
   >and soon at:
   >http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
   >Regards
   >Stefan

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Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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HP>1/ if some one try to crack a protected file, 1, 2, 8 or 20 hours
HP>will not make the difference.

   Yes, for me....i can change passwords, credit cards, put a "warning"
on the net, etc...

HP>2/ if your protected data are on a ram card, where is the 56 or 128 b
HP>key?
HP>on the ram card too?

   It depends of the software, the newer ones, not..

HP>3/for my self, I never trust any computer (I know they liar)

   So.....what are you doing using a palmtop ? :)

HP>4/I like a simple password (easy to remember) and a safe area for my
HP>data.

   Yes...i would like that too...but a simple password, is not enough,
built-in passwords are not enough, "pkzip" passwords, can be "cracked"
in minutes with a simple 386 or better machine, so i need something
else...that gives me a couple of hours

HP>5/don't forguet, no software will protect your data again
HP>a guinea pig!
HP>(because software are soft :-)

   That's a new virus ? :)


HP>Al
HP>Al
HP>Wyn@alphalink.com.au
HP>Melbourne / Australia


   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:21:12 -0500
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Thanks the insert was off it was in the replace mode. Now if I just had a
clue how I did that.

John

At 01:41 AM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>At 06:33 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello
>>
>>I was wondering if someone could help me with this. Memo has started acting
>>wierd. For some reason (I haven't changed anything) it will not delete the
>>last character typed when I hit the backspace key. It is acting like the
>>left arrow. I have to use the del key to delete any characters. Also the
>>enter key will not move the entire line down when I press it. When I move
>>it to the beginning of the line and press it it moves the cursor down but
>>ignores any charcters. Any suggestions?
>>
>>John
>
>Hi John,
>
>I really couldn't tell you what's going on.  Judging from experience from
>other word processors, though, you might consider looking to see if insert
>is off.  I had an icky Microsoft IDE that did that - maybe Memo does too.
>
>Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
>NOTE - A reply to this message may be bounced back by my not-that-bright
>mail server.  If this is the case, please just send the message again.  If
>I had a nickel for every time I've had people complain about that, I'd
have...
>well, I'd have 15 cents, but that's not important.  Anyway, just send it
>again.
>
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>into a pile of dust."
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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:35:17 -0500
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Hi.  Due to a variety of odd circumstances, I've happened upon a 4M upgrade
for the 200LX.  I would like to trade this for a used 200LX.  If that is not
possible, I will also sell the upgrade for an equivalent amount of cash.
From my understanding, this 4M upgrade includes the install, which would
be done by T2T.  If you have a spare palmtop, or money, please email me
privately at <ianrb@caspers.net>.  Thank you.


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"A booming voice says, 'Wrong, cretin!' and you notice you have turned
into a pile of dust."
        - Linux fortune

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:39:27 -0600
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> Hi group-
>
> I've been trying to give the RS 1200mAH NiMH cells a fair trial in
> spite of their initially poor results.  Somebody (I think it was
> Andreas or Avi) mentioned that NiMH need several charge cycles to
> stabilize.  The latest results seem to agree.  For several cycles I've
> only got a little better than 5 hours of use.  ABC/LX was set for:
>         Max volts    2.83
>         Stall time   4Hrs
>         Max time     12Hrs
> The cells would reach 2.81V in 4hrs or less, then stall.  Total charge
> of about 8hrs.
>
> On the last charge cycle, the pattern changed - it took almost 5hrs to
> reach 2.79V, stalled there for 3hrs, hit 2.81 and stalled for 4hrs.
> Total of about 12hrs.  So far I have a little over 7 hrs of use on
> these cells.  Not great, but things ARE improving.
>
> BTW - check out D&A's page  http://www.dasoft.com  they have some new
> stuff about ABC/LX.  There's a neat feature I don't find in the manual
> - "expert mode".  This gives you a bunch of additional options in the
> ÝMENU¨-Setup-Options dialog box.  Also changes the F7 (Reason) label to
> "Huh?" - cute!  8-)
>
> -PR
> ------------
>
> Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
>     *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
>    Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"
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    PR,

    I have had excellent performance from the NiMH batts that I am using
currently, with not very different abc/lx settings.  Is there a
manufacturer or date code on the batts that you are testing?  Perhaps
they are from an early batch or something...  I also have purchased some
NiMH batts from another company that are doing well.  My preferred
method with the NiMH batts is to use a long trickle charge.  (16+ hours)

--
_______________________________________________

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mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
ICQ 3851271

see you on the other side of the monoblock
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:47:28 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Missing pixels
Comments: To: Fosteras <fosteras@CHEERFUL.COM>

  In Reply to :
At 12 Feb 15:33, Fosteras wrote:
>
>My 200LX which is now 3.5 years old has lost a couple of lines
>(vertical)
>of pixels in the left side of the screen.  It's missing about 8 lines
>altogether which I can live with, but would love to fix if I could.

First, vertical lines (pixels) are governed by 2 'rubber' strips of
conductors at the top and bottom of the pcb which are then fitted to
LCD and the horizontal lines (pixels) are by the cable ribbons attache
d
directly to the LCD. Vertical missing lines are caused by dust or bad
contact with the rubber strips as mentioned. However, please note that
the dust-free enviroment to disassemble the LCD is difficult to
maintain (for me, at least). I had the unfortunate experience of havin
g
to do the LCD assy and dis-assy (wanted to install an el panel for
backlight experiment; failed of course).

Technically, you can fix it but it all depends on how brave you are (o
r
how stupid,in my case) and how well you can handle delicate components
.
If you want, visit David Sargeant's excellent web site for some pointe
rs
on how to disassemble the LCD.

Cleaning the 2 rubber strips will get rid of missing vertical pixels.
I
have no solution to horizontal missing lines for they are attached to
the lcd directly via a very fragile ribbon cable.

Assuming you can do everything, also take note that if you don't align
the pcb and the lcd properly, you'll get BLURRED characters making the
entire screen unreadable.

Consider carefully before attempting to 'fix' your LCD. Personally, I
wouldn't recommend it. I you have nothing to lose and knowing that you
going to send in to whoever for repairs, then go ahead.


---
C P Wong
+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| cpwong@tm.net.my   | C P Wong                                      |
| cpwong@acer.com.my | Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia                        |
| cpwong@w3xs.com    | Using D-Mail v2.3 on HP200LX                  |
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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:31:36 -0700
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On 1998-02-15 stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I am the dear author of palmtop freeware providing you with
   >programs like LxPic, LxMap, LxPro, Sleepon ...
   >Now I want to be provided with a MEGAHERTZ XJACK 14400 modem.
   >I tried several places (mentioned on this list) to buy one,
   >but my problem is, that I live in Germany, and they all do not
   >take international orders :-(
   >My question is: Has anyone of you a full functional XJACK modem
   >left and is willing to ship it international for about $30?
   >Maybe a power user of my programs has a freeware modem left
   >which would indeed significantly simplify the paying
   >procedure ;-)
   >Please contact me via private email. Thank you!

Let me know if you don't get any positive responses. If no one has a
spare, I would be willing to purchase one. They generally go for 25 USA
dollars and that's not too bad for me to part with :-).
           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

If it doesn't feel good, don't do it.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:31:44 -0700
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On 1998-02-15 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >>* UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories.
   >Unix is a trademark of the X/Open group now.
   >Maybe you should just drop that line from your email
   >signature, it's way out of date.
   >Yi
   >--------------------------------------------

Uh, yeah.... whatever. :->
           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:32:03 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Help with EMM200.EXE and MAKEEMS.EXE

On 1998-02-15 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Hello All-
   >I have a question regarding the expanded memory manager, emm200.
   >I've downloaded version 2.00 and have been trying to install it on
   >my HP 200LX palmtop PC, but cannot succeed because makeems fails.
   >After a normal startup (emm200.exe is not installed in config.sys)
   >of the palmtop, I open a DOS window and type:
   >C:\> makeems 8

snip

I went through the same process. EMM200 will only work with some older
2MB 200LX's. It won't work with some newer ones and definitely won't
work with upgraded units. You may be able to purchase TREMM from
times2tech. I believe there's also Japanese company selling a driver. I
use TREMM and it works well for programs that use expanded memory but
it will not load TSRs high.

Does anyone know how to make "loadhigh" work with TREMM?


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Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:36:46 -1000
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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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John - Fn-Insert will do it every time

Aloha - bob    \ooo_
..........................................

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Thanks the insert was off it was in the replace mode. Now if I just had a
clue how I did that.

John

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:29:08 +0100
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Edward A. Padin wrote:
> They ÝPC card modems that Stefan Peichl was looking for¨
> generally go for 25 USA
> dollars and that's not too bad for me to part with :-).
>
Great! Where? I was unable to find one during my last two trips to
California (I live in Europe). Could you give me a pointer? The thing I
want is a 14.4k PCMCIA modem that takes less than 125 mA.

I've tried Thaddeus (at 70 USD), but they shipped me two defective ones,
after which I gave up.

--------------------------------------------------------
Adriaan van Nijendaal                  adriaan@choam.com
CHOAM sprl, Sur les Fontaines 58, 4990 Lierneux, Belgium
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:09:27 -0500
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mark beutler <mycroft_h@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>     I have had excellent performance from the NiMH batts that I am=
 using
> currently, with not very different abc/lx settings.  Is there a
> manufacturer or date code on the batts that you are testing?  Perhaps
> they are from an early batch or something...  I also have purchased=
 some
> NiMH batts from another company that are doing well.  My preferred
> method with the NiMH batts is to use a long trickle charge.  (16+=
 hours)

Are yours the Radio Shack 1200 mAH cells?  Mine were purchased in
December, as soon as they were available at RS stores here in Miami.=

The code on the package was "573".  Cells mfd in France.

The best results on these so far was the last cycle - 7.5 hrs.  This=
 is
still less than the 8 to 10 hrs from the RS 850mAH NiCads.
Incidentally, the last charge only lasted 9 hrs, and stalled at 2.79V
(4.5 hrs).  The NiCads typically charge for 8 - 9 hrs, and give about=

8 - 10 hrs of use.  The BEST results with the NiMH is 7.5 hrs with a=
 12
hr charge.  8-(

The times are for regular use - not the run-to-shutdown test.

Ý mycroft_h ??   Hmmm - I deduce that you are an A. Conan Doyle fan=
 ¨

-PR
------------

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:32:41 -0500
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I've seen ads posted in the newsgroups for the megahertz 14.4. for about
$25. It may even have been posted to thislist (checkthe archives.) I sawe
them a while ago on http://www.onsale.com but I'm not sure if they still
come up for sale. You can alsotry www.surplusdirect.com and perhaps try
posting a WTB in comp.sys.palmtops or alt.sys.palmtops.hp (not sure of group
names pls. correct if needed...)


-----Original Message-----
From: Adriaan van Nijendaal <adriaan@CHOAM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 1:45 AM
Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ PCMCIA modem wanted


>Edward A. Padin wrote:
>> They ÝPC card modems that Stefan Peichl was looking for¨
>> generally go for 25 USA
>> dollars and that's not too bad for me to part with :-).
>>
>Great! Where? I was unable to find one during my last two trips to
>California (I live in Europe). Could you give me a pointer? The thing I
>want is a 14.4k PCMCIA modem that takes less than 125 mA.
>
>I've tried Thaddeus (at 70 USD), but they shipped me two defective ones,
>after which I gave up.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
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>CHOAM sprl, Sur les Fontaines 58, 4990 Lierneux, Belgium
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:44:21 -0500
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Anyone interested in cheap PCMCIA modems should go to www.eBay.com
There's always 10-20 items available and they run from $20 to $50.

Nedim.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:21:43 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Claud,
Thanks for the offer, I certainly appreciate it.
They listed http://multimedia.aol.com/external.postcard.htm
Man, this card better be worth all this effort! <G>
tom

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:40:24 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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Thanks to everyone who responded to my message about my erasing the main
page to my web site.  It's back up again!

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:33:15 -0500
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A friend of mine sold his 200LX a year ago and purchased a 360LX. He has
finally decided that it just is not right for his use, and would like to go
back to the 200.  (And yes, this has allowed me many "I told you so"
comments). He has added many programs (database app, HP calculator app,
etc.) and is upgrading the unit to Windows CE Ver. 2.0 shortly.

If anyone is interested in trading their 200LX 2MB or greater for this Win
CE machine, please drop me a line via private email and I will put you in
contact with him. If you know of any non power user who is interested in
buying a CE machine, pass this message along to him/her. He will sell it at
a discount I'm sure.

Thanks,
Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC
Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:04:49 -0500
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Tell him to wait for the impending DOS emulator that some guy in England is
developing. Apparently it's not vaporware and may already be available. it
would allow your friend to make his machine run some 200 LX stuph. With this
and the connectivity kit he may almost all the functionality of an LX.

It means paying out more money but I don't think he'll find anyone willing
to do a straight trade.


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Arancio <store4u@TROUTSEGALL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 12:25 PM
Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ FS: HP 360LX


>A friend of mine sold his 200LX a year ago and purchased a 360LX. He has
>finally decided that it just is not right for his use, and would like to go
>back to the 200.  (And yes, this has allowed me many "I told you so"
>comments). He has added many programs (database app, HP calculator app,
>etc.) and is upgrading the unit to Windows CE Ver. 2.0 shortly.
>
>If anyone is interested in trading their 200LX 2MB or greater for this Win
>CE machine, please drop me a line via private email and I will put you in
>contact with him. If you know of any non power user who is interested in
>buying a CE machine, pass this message along to him/her. He will sell it at
>a discount I'm sure.
>
>Thanks,
>Alex Arancio
>Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC
>Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
>
>Discount Long Distance - Free Web Site for Agents - Earn Commission off of
>your OWN phone bill - Commercial - Residential - 800 Service
>Visit Telecom-Pros http://www.telecom-pros.com/members/alex
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:31:50 -0800
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Comments: To: Epadin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>

> Tell him to wait for the impending DOS emulator that some guy in England
is
> developing. Apparently it's not vaporware and may already be available. it
> would allow your friend to make his machine run some 200 LX stuph. With
this
> and the connectivity kit he may almost all the functionality of an LX.

Wow, I'm impressed... AltaVista soon pointed me to
http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html
<http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html>  ...

Not available yet (as far as I can tell), but there are some neat screen
shots there...

- Joe

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The XTCE software (XT emulator for WinCE) is due out by the end of March.
 It is mostly complete according to the author's posts to a CE mailing
list but some finishing touches and distribution details need worked out.


On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:31:50 -0800 Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
writes:
>> Tell him to wait for the impending DOS emulator that some guy in
>England is developing.
>
>>Wow, I'm impressed... AltaVista soon pointed me to
>>http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:18:02 -0800
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But, how  ...  S  L  O  W  ... is it?  I played with one of the CE machines
in one of the office supply stores, and it sure was slow.  I can't imagine
running something like Agenda through an emulator.

At 14:31 17.02.98 -0800, you wrote:
>> Tell him to wait for the impending DOS emulator that some guy in England
>is
>> developing. Apparently it's not vaporware and may already be available. it
>> would allow your friend to make his machine run some 200 LX stuph. With
>this
>> and the connectivity kit he may almost all the functionality of an LX.
>
>Wow, I'm impressed... AltaVista soon pointed me to
>http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html
><http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html>  ...
>
>Not available yet (as far as I can tell), but there are some neat screen
>shots there...
>
>- Joe
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:19:50 -0800
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Well, I was asked for a user-name and password.

At 11:21 17.02.98 -0500, you wrote:
>Claud,
>Thanks for the offer, I certainly appreciate it.
>They listed http://multimedia.aol.com/external.postcard.htm
>Man, this card better be worth all this effort! <G>
>tom
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:21:30 -0800
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My apologies for my most recent post - I didn't catch the reply address
until too late.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 18:07:17 -0800
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Peniel,

> BTW - check out D&A's page  http://www.dasoft.com  they have some new
> stuff about ABC/LX.  There's a neat feature I don't find in the manual
> - "expert mode".  This gives you a bunch of additional options in the
> ÝMENU¨-Setup-Options dialog box.  Also changes the F7 (Reason) label
>  to
> "Huh?" - cute!  8-)

This is not in the manual because it is er... eh... expert
mode, who presumably needs no manual :) ...

But there is also a list of betas hiding under the proper
letter. When you press that letter, the list of betas appears.
And there is more eastereggs in that program :) Enjoy!

I just updated the Web page in the ABC/LX FAQ and in the
WWW/LX Plus FAQ area. Follow the announcements link in
http://www.dasoft.com.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:28:16 -0500
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Hello Group

I recently obtained a 4 meg 1440 EXP modem. I tried using it on my system
but everytime I try to use drive F: it gives me a drive not ready error. I
was able to write some software onto the drive but after I wrote it it
won't let me access it. I tried reformating it but the 200LX tells me it
can't reformat the type of drive. The modem works and the minifax software
from drive A: works. Does anyone have any ideas?? Thanks.

John

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:04:35 +1300
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hplx wrote:
>
> Jeff & others,
>
> check out  ftp://ftp.libertynet.org/site/graphiti/hplx/Japan/index.html
>
> I put the files there, probably temporarily.  I might remove them in a
> couple of weeks.
> http://comports.com/hplx  <---old stuff is new
>
Hi
I can't access past ftp://ftp.libertynet.org/site/graphiti/  which shows
as blank...

JS

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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:20:43 -0500
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Hello Again

Just wanted to let you-all know I found the card formating utility on the A
drive and formatted the F drive and everything is fine as far as the flash
memory goes. Right now I seem to be having a little trouble with the modem
dialing in WWW/LX. It works just fine in DataComm but it doesn't seem to
dial in WWW/LX. Does anybody use this modem with WWW/LX? Do I need a
special string sequence?

John

At 09:28 PM 2/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello Group
>
>I recently obtained a 4 meg 1440 EXP modem. I tried using it on my system
>but everytime I try to use drive F: it gives me a drive not ready error. I
>was able to write some software onto the drive but after I wrote it it
>won't let me access it. I tried reformating it but the 200LX tells me it
>can't reformat the type of drive. The modem works and the minifax software
>from drive A: works. Does anyone have any ideas?? Thanks.
>
>John
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:40:31 GMT
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 Ian Melville & group:

I've been looking back through my archives re getting windows running
on my single speed 2mb LX.  The following was posted mid 97 and I am
keen to learn more about the keyboard mouse emulator mentioned.

>Oh, I did forget to mention this small detail, sorry. No rodent or =
stylus
>for me to lug around because I use a keyboard mouse emulator. This loads
>with Windows and has its own configuration utility with all the =
trimmings;
>acceleration, double-click speed; enlarged cursor etc..
>
>I have set the hot-key as Alt+/ and the spacebar as the left mouse =
button
>so when I need pointer movement its just a hot key away. If I need to
>regain my cursor key control I just hit the hot-key again :-)

I am loading sleepon.com ver2.0 as per the documentation and my
machine displays "Internal stack overflow System halted" when I hit
the Off button once inside windows.  Any help here would be
appreciated

Shaun Gilbert

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:05:19 -0500
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Are any of you programmers? Most interrupt lists out there specify that INT
0x0D is the "HP 95/100/200LX Infrared interrupt", but then what port do i
read from? What is the best way to read data from the IR port? Accessing it
like a regular serial port leaves much to be desired.. How did the authors
of REMCOM and RC do it?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 05:35:07 GMT
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John, EXP works fine with WWW/LX. Minimal conditions for WWW/LX to dial
would be to have in setup:

 Modem Type =3D PCMCIA
 Modem box checked

AT&F as init string always worked for me.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:05:18 -0500
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I'm using RS 1200mAh NiMH's as well and I find them to last about 2x as
long as the NiCd's I had, big deal, eh?  Well, I find they last me about
4-6 days of intermittent use on a 2x machine.  I think they discharge even
when not in use, no?  Something to consider in comparisons.
JG
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:18:22 +0100
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On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> But, how  ...  S  L  O  W  ... is it?  I played with one of the CE machines
> in one of the office supply stores, and it sure was slow.  I can't imagine
> running something like Agenda through an emulator.
>

I think the slowest part of the emulation is the screen update (because of
colours and the fact that the CE units only have one screen mode,
graphics). Providing Agenda doesn't update the screen all the time, it
should probably run okay.



Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 05:42:31 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I think the CE machines are slow mostly because of the MS bloatware
they saddled with. The CE machines have faster 32bit processors and may
be able to run this emulator at comparable speeds to an LX. He calls it
"XT" so i hope it would be at the speed of an IBM-XT. That's about the
speed of a stock LX. I hear that some CE machines are faster than
others (Velo 1?). Maybe it is written for these.

I'm not prejudiced when it comes to CE. I like my LX but I think that
the CE machines may one day approach the same level of functionality and
versatility as the LX. If not, they will be replaced by something that
will (hopefully the "220LX" with a low power 486!).

On 1998-02-17 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >But, how  ...  S  L  O  W  ... is it?  I played with one of the CE
   >machines in one of the office supply stores, and it sure was slow.
   >I can't imagine running something like Agenda through an emulator.
   >At 14:31 17.02.98 -0800, you wrote:
   >>> Tell him to wait for the impending DOS emulator that some guy in
   >>England is
   >>> developing. Apparently it's not vaporware and may already be
   >>>available. it  would allow your friend to make his machine run
   >>some 200 LX stuph. With this
   >>> and the connectivity kit he may almost all the functionality of
   >an LX. >
   >>Wow, I'm impressed... AltaVista soon pointed me to
   >>http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html
   >><http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html>  ...
   >>Not available yet (as far as I can tell), but there are some neat
   >>screen shots there...
   >>- Joe
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:12:13 -0600
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Well it finally happened. My 200lx didn't completely survive the latest
fall. I can live with the broken battery cover. But, the top 3 or 4 rows of
pixels don't work now. I'm missing the top half of the letters in the top
row. Oddly enough, when in the monthly calendar view, I get vertical lines
that correspond to the calendar grid that show up in the "bad" rows of
pixels. Shaking and CTRL-Shift-ON haven't worked. As I assume something got
knocked loose, I'm tempted to open it up an poke around.

Anyone have any advice or ideas before I attempt surgery or break down and
send it off for repair?

Eric
Eric C. Steindorf

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 05:47:41 -0800
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Which machine did you play with? I have an HP620LX that runs an SH3
processor at 75Mhz and have no problem with speed. The early CE models were
underclocked and only had 2-4MB RAM. The 620 has 16Mb and speed isn't an
issue, at all.

I had a 95/200 for several years and wasn't sure I'd like the 620, but I
have been extremely pleased and wouldn't dream of going back to a slow,
character-based monochrome machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 18 February, 1998 01:20
Subject: Re: XT-CE ÝRE: FS: HP 360LX¨


>On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
>> But, how  ...  S  L  O  W  ... is it?  I played with one of the CE
machines
>> in one of the office supply stores, and it sure was slow.  I can't
imagine
>> running something like Agenda through an emulator.
>>
>
>I think the slowest part of the emulation is the screen update (because of
>colours and the fact that the CE units only have one screen mode,
>graphics). Providing Agenda doesn't update the screen all the time, it
>should probably run okay.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Laust
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:05:08 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> I had a 95/200 for several years and wasn't sure I'd like the 620, but I
> have been extremely pleased and wouldn't dream of going back to a slow,
> character-based monochrome machine.

Now there's a remark that's sure to troll in this list-group.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:01:00 -0800
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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:

> I think the CE machines are slow mostly because of the MS bloatware
> they saddled with. The CE machines have faster 32bit processors and may
> be able to run this emulator at comparable speeds to an LX. He calls it
> "XT" so i hope it would be at the speed of an IBM-XT. That's about the
> speed of a stock LX. I hear that some CE machines are faster than
> others (Velo 1?). Maybe it is written for these.

I believe the author said last year that the emulator would be like a 10
mhz XT...a bit more than a normal 200LX, but less than a speed upgraded
LX. The speed of an XT is 4.77mhz and a stock LX is something like 7.9mhz.

Seems like a lot of WinCE users (and not a few 95/100/200LX users) are
waiting with baited breath for this thing, but it's been already delayed
from its expected release at the end of last year and it IS a one-man
show. I wouldn't hope for too much on the first round when and if he ever
gets there (but kudos to him if he does).

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:22:35 +0100
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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Which machine did you play with? I have an HP620LX that runs an SH3
> processor at 75Mhz and have no problem with speed. The early CE models were
> underclocked and only had 2-4MB RAM. The 620 has 16Mb and speed isn't an
> issue, at all.

I didn't; this is a guess based on the programmer's (and others) postings
to comp.sys.palmtops. It is just a guess, but perhaps I didn't make this
clear...

But you're right, it will probably not be useable on the old CE models.

> I had a 95/200 for several years and wasn't sure I'd like the 620, but I
> have been extremely pleased and wouldn't dream of going back to a slow,
> character-based monochrome machine.

You'd be surprised how much faster the 620 would be if it didn't have to
use the graphics mode...

I don't think the CE platform is open enough for programmers. And besides,
no TTY apps (text mode) tsk tsk tsk...

Regards,

Laust

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/// Jamais Vu - The Feeling You've Never Been Here              ///

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On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:20:43, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Hello Again
>
> Just wanted to let you-all know I found the card formating utility=
 on the
> A drive and formatted the F drive and everything is fine as far as=
 the
> flash memory goes. Right now I seem to be having a little trouble=
 with the
> modem dialing in WWW/LX. It works just fine in DataComm but it doesn't=
 seem
>to dial in WWW/LX. Does anybody use this modem with WWW/LX? Do I need=
 a
> special string sequence?


Hi John,

I see that you found the format utility on the A:\, did you add
d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1 in your autoexec.bat?



Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:39:51 -0800
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Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
> Which machine did you play with? I have an HP620LX that runs an SH3
> processor at 75Mhz and have no problem with speed. The early CE models were
> underclocked and only had 2-4MB RAM. The 620 has 16Mb and speed isn't an
> issue, at all.
>
> I had a 95/200 for several years and wasn't sure I'd like the 620, but I
> have been extremely pleased and wouldn't dream of going back to a slow,
> character-based monochrome machine.

Uh oh.  Let the holy wars begin... <g>
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:36:07 -0500
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Hello to new owners of 620LX. I have couple of questions for you. I've been
a very happy 100/200LX user for the past four years, and appreciate all the
fine details that HP put in making their palmtops. These are evident when I
used winCE or Psion machines that do not have solver capability,
conversion, keyboard shortcuts, and many other flexible features and
mechanical reliability that make HPLX such great machines, at least 200LX
lines. I have been following WinCE scene for a while, and I am still not
convinced that the latest 620LX from HP have all those user-friendly (with
scientifically oriented people in mind) features. Is it safe to assume that
620LX is everything that 200LX has, plus color display and faster speed? Or
is it not much different from other CE machines like Casio and Philips?

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Section of Maternal Fetal Medicine
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:41:32 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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I remember reading somewhere, long ago (maybe in my Palmtop Paper
magazine), that HP was selling a spare parts kit that included some
items that commonly failed in the 200LX. Specifically, I'm looking
for a SPACE bar and maybe a SHIFT key, but I recall that the kit
included other items, such as battery compartment covers.

Am I dreaming, or was this for real. If so, how does one take
advantage of this offer - e.g., who do I call to order one?

I did an archive search, and found reference to a maintenance kit,
but from what I read, the contents of these kits appeared to change
from time to time. I didn't see any mention of spare keys, however.

Does anyone know what's shipping in the maintenance kits today???


-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:49:57 -0800
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The contest at my site is over and we have our winners.

1st place: Davis Chapel, winning a memory upgrade.
     "Unspoken Spokesmen: Three famous 200LX users..."

2nd place: Jeff Johns, winning a speed upgrade.
     How the 200LX helps enforce the law.

3rd place: Bo Svensson, winning a pair of high-capacity batteries.
     An article that's sure to irritate Windows CE manufacturers.

Honorable mentions:

HPLX Unplugged    http://comports.com/hplx
     The top ten reasons a 200LX beats out a WinCE

Ian Butler
     A poem, "In Search of the 200"

Bill Childers
     Bill Gates using a 200LX?  I don't doubt it...

Francois Ennesser
     Bill Gates suppressing the 200LX on purpose?  I don't doubt it...


The articles the winners wrote can be found on the "Winners" page at my site.
Congratulations to them and thanks to everyone who submitted entries.  There
are more contests in the works, so keep an eye out!
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:55:42 -0500
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The kit includes:

 3 case screws
 8 rubber feet
 2 engraving plates
 4 hinge end caps
 2 main battery covers
 2 back-up battery covers
 2 back-up battery trays

I would check with Times2 Tech or Thaddeus for these parts.

--- On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:41:32 -0600  Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

>I remember reading somewhere, long ago (maybe in my Palmtop Paper
>magazine), that HP was selling a spare parts kit that included some
>items that commonly failed in the 200LX. Specifically, I'm looking
>for a SPACE bar and maybe a SHIFT key, but I recall that the kit
>included other items, such as battery compartment covers.
>
>Am I dreaming, or was this for real. If so, how does one take
>advantage of this offer - e.g., who do I call to order one?
>
>I did an archive search, and found reference to a maintenance kit,
>but from what I read, the contents of these kits appeared to change
>from time to time. I didn't see any mention of spare keys, however.
>
>Does anyone know what's shipping in the maintenance kits today???
>
>
>-Chris Lott
>
>***********************************************************************
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>Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate address:
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>Huntsville, AL  35805
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:59:53 -0800
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>You'd be surprised how much faster the 620 would be if it didn't have to
>use the graphics mode...


Perhaps, but the attractiveness of the 620 to me and other WinCE users IS
the Windows GUI and complete compatibility with our MS Office apps.

I fully appeciate that this doesn't include everyone, but I have personally
found it to be the right combination of apps, color and ease of use.

>I don't think the CE platform is open enough for programmers. And besides,
>no TTY apps (text mode) tsk tsk tsk...

Maybe, but I'm a user, not a programmer.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:08:40 -0800
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>> I had a 95/200 for several years and wasn't sure I'd like the 620, but I
>> have been extremely pleased and wouldn't dream of going back to a slow,
>> character-based monochrome machine.
>
>Now there's a remark that's sure to troll in this list-group.
>
It wasn't meant to incite a riot. I meant it in the same spirit as when I
moved from my OmniBook 300 to an OB600: I wanted a color OB, and was
prepared to take the hit on the power consumed.

I liked them both, and each supported MS Office apps that are a part of my
and millions of others everyday lives. But... I like color and the
familiarity of the GUI. Both work for me.

If I were a programmer, and I'm not, I could see an argument for a
character-based system. But from a USER's perspective, I think the 620
provides more functionality.

BTW, let's not start a flame war over this. I am not trying to win any
converts, and the 200LX is a fabulous machine. But understand, too, that
some of the early reports about "slow WinCE units that don't perform or lack
functionality" are growing real old, real fast. Especially with the dawn of
the 620.

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>>You'd be surprised how much faster the 620 would be if it didn't have to
>>use the graphics mode...

> Perhaps, but the attractiveness of the 620 to me and other WinCE users IS
> the Windows GUI and complete compatibility with our MS Office apps.

This is a very old debate (it used to be MSFT v. Apple). No point reviving
it.

The only reason I posted more bits about XT-CE to this group is it might be
a way for this community to survive the possible death of the 200LX
platform. No, I have no immediate reason for believe that HP will continue
the 200LX, but HP has killed products before despite such products having a
very devoted following. The HP-41C, the HP-11C, and the HP-42S are examples
from the calculator world. (On the other hand, they have kept the HP-12C
alive.)

Of course, I'd still rather have an upgraded HP-200LX, one that reflected
the processor speed improvements over the past decade instead of burning
them up emulating another processor...

- Joe

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:57:44 -0500
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> From:    Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
> Subject: Re: Super Security...
>
> It is availiable from utopia.hacktic.nl (via ftp).
>
> Regards,
>
> Laust
>
Thanks!  Could you tell us what file it is in on that site.
There are quite a few files there.

Thanks,
        Bill Schell
        bill@bell-labs.com

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:17:37 -0500
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Thanks for all those who gave advice regarding the XT-CE emulator. I knew
about that, but forgot to mention it to him.  Also, I spoke to him today
again. He says he never sold his 200LX and still has it (didn't know that),
and that he just wants to sell the 360LX.

Alex Arancio
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:41:27 -0600
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Post your config.sys and autoexec.bat, I have one of those (EXP
fax/memory) cards.

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:58:11 -0600
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Every time I read one of these "CE vrs DOS" threads, I react by opening
my Quicken app and looking to see if I can afford another HP200LX to
stock for the "palmtop winter".

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:15:26 -0600
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I looked at a HP620 at CompUSA yesterday.  It's kinda, well... HUGE!  I
liked the color display, but it seemed that a large part (of an already
small screen, considering that CE is a GUI) of the screen was consumed
with borders, frames, headers, and other space-wasting stuff.  I was
also put-off by the row of contacts visible through the bottom of the
case.  A few times in the past I have discovered that the glass of
water, sweating away, on the table where I was doing my report, had
soaked the bottom of my HP200.  Other than some water wicked into the
slot for the battery cover, it never has caused any problems.  I was
kinda unhappy about the non-standard power source too.  The price seems
to be good, considering the backlight, color display, and HP logo.
But... without MS DOS which I _require_ to support the activities I'm
paid to perform, I'm afraid the HP620 is "just another" Windows CE
general-market-for-the-common-masses product.

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:40:17 -0500
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Avi wrote:

> But there is also a list of betas hiding under the proper
> letter. When you press that letter, the list of betas appears.
> And there is more eastereggs in that program :) Enjoy!

Hmmm...  Haven't seen that yet.  The hunt should be fun  8-)

-PR
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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Bill Schell wrote:

> > From:    Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
> > Subject: Re: Super Security...
> >
> > It is availiable from utopia.hacktic.nl (via ftp).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Laust
> >

It is in /pub/crypto/disk  and is called secdev14.arj

Please remember that the server is in Holland (Netherlands), so
downloading it might not be legal, depending on where you live.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:13:01 -0600
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Unused Newton Keyboard for sale/trade.
Complete with box and registration card.
Model x0044 (somewhat newer than
that mentioned in NTKPAC05.zip (on Super))

Make up a din-8 to 9-pin serial cable
and use it with your LX.

I would really like to trade it for a somewhat
damaged, functional 100LX - ie, a while back
someone had one with defective serial port but
good PCMCIA. Crack OK, no broken hinges.

Or I will sell if for $55 prepaid.

TIA  Stan

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:23:14 -0500
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I got the EXP working. Thanks for the response. Turned out
it just needed to be re-inserted and rebooted.

John

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Comparing the 200LX and any Windows CE unit is like
comparing apples and oranges. The 200LX is a fully
functional unit with a very mature software base. Windows
CE is not. The 620 is just a PIM with a color screen. I
guess if all a person needs is a PIM CE is a good way to
go- although spending 800 bucks for an electronic organizer
sounds like a lot to me. Its funny how people say they want
CE because of its Windows compatibility when the 200LX is
completely compatable with Windows. If HP would get its act
together and make the improvements to the 200LX which
they've already made in the CE machines (backlighting,
maybe add color) they'd have to top selling handheld on the
market today. This move to CE reminds me of the music
industries move to CDs. CDs didn't replace albums because
people wanted them to or because they sounded better everyone just stopped=
 making albums
and started making CDs. From market reports you'd think HP
would know its stupid to stop developing the 200LX line-
it sells and it sells because its the better machine.

John

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:46:32 EST
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I was wondering how those of you who are using the Newton keyboard are
handling the loading and unloading of the driver.  I don't think I want to
include it in the autoexec.bat because it will leave the serial port active
and reduce battery life.  But since you have to drop to DOS to load it and
unload I'm not sure what is the best way to handle it.  I also would like to
have Buddy remain loaded.
Any Ideas?

Mike Irwin

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:07:06 -0500
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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Mike W. Irwin wrote:

> I was wondering how those of you who are using the Newton keyboard are
> handling the loading and unloading of the driver.  I don't think I want to
> include it in the autoexec.bat because it will leave the serial port active
> and reduce battery life.  But since you have to drop to DOS to load it and
> unload I'm not sure what is the best way to handle it.  I also would like to
> have Buddy remain loaded.

That's not quite true.  It *only* runs the serial port when you enable it
(CTRL+ALT+,).  When you disable it (CTRL+ALT+.) it doesn't use any serial
port power.  I load it up in autoexec.bat and turn it on when I need it.
When it's off, it doesn't affect my battery power at all.

BTW, I also have Buddy loaded too.

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In a message dated 98-02-18 10:12:17 EST, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

<<
 Perhaps, but the attractiveness of the 620 to me and other WinCE users IS
 the Windows GUI and complete compatibility with our MS Office apps.
  >>

I was going to let it pass, but...

Either Wordperfect 5.1 or Word for DOS 5.0 is a much better mate for Word for
Windows thanPocket Word.  Much more formatting (up to and including tables)
can be preserved.

Either Lotus or Quatropro 5.0 is a much better match for Excel than Pocket
Excel.  Quatropro 5.0 will even preserve multi-sheet note books.

You have to rely on Pocket Power Point an awful lot to make up for the
inadequicies of the other two programs.  If you like the color GUI, I will be
the last to question your choice, but please don't tell me that its because
you have work to do.  That dog won't hunt.

Also, the big machine does not fit in the pocket as well, and I have to
believe that its much more difficult to develop any speed thumb-typing in a
library or meeting.  Don't you have to find a nice flat space & pretend that
you have a lap top to type anything more complex than a name, address, and
phone number?

How do you compensate for the absence of Note Taker, the HP Calculator, Buddy,
...

Oh, never mind.  Its really a matter of post purchase cognative dissonance.

Cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Wow, I'm impressed! There might actually be a future for this wince things.
hehe, I wonder if the emu might be able to run win v1.03 or win v2.03 :P
hehe, makes ya wonder.

     -James, N9XLC
     -jrhall@infocom.com

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> wouldn't dream of going back to a slow, character-based monochrome machine.

I'm not sure that character-based capability makes a machine "character-based".
Have a look at the System Manager sometime. Those icons aren't characters :)
Of course, a character-based capability can make a machine much faster at
those tasks that don't *require* graphics (as others have pointed out).

When I write, I use just one monochrome pen; not a box of textas.
Who would upgrade to colour newsprint? It's good for pictures, though.


A big problem (for some) is that the computational power of the HP620
is paid for in weight, size and battery life. And a big frustration
(for techno-idealists) is the inefficient harnessing of that power. Its
CPU is about 10 times faster than the hp200lx's - but it's not 10 times
faster to *use*.

All this doesn't matter if it meets your needs: it's horses for courses.
But towing a float with a ferrari?   :)
--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
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wants to read."         alt.quotations

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I have had a problem using the Newton keyboard and Word 5.0, anyone else
experience a problem?

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Hi,

        A short comment from an old audiophile.  The CD replaced the LP in the
mass market for two reasons.  Hi-Fi sales were flat, the CD revived tand
proabably saved the industry.  CDs are convient, little old ladies with
shacky fingers can use them.  There is no way a CD can approach the
sound quality of an LP on a good Hi-Fi.  With all due respect, the
public needs color and GUIs because they think they need them.  HP
could  have made the 200LX into a better machine than the WinCe yuk, but
the profit potential favors the color GUIs.

Colin

Edited for time and content=============================================
John Musielewicz wrote:
If HP would get its act
> together and make the improvements to the 200LX which
> they've already made in the CE machines (backlighting,
> maybe add color) they'd have to top selling handheld on the
> market today. This move to CE reminds me of the music
> industries move to CDs. CDs didn't replace albums because
> people wanted them to or because they sounded better everyone just stopped making albums
> and started making CDs. From market reports you'd think HP
> would know its stupid to stop developing the 200LX line-
> it sells and it sells because its the better machine.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 21:48:12 EST
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Lynn,

>If you like the color GUI, I will be the last to question your choice, but
please don't tell me that its because you have work to do.  That dog won't
hunt.<

<Bowing to the master>

Your response was the most well thought out, concise, iron clad argument I've
ever heard in the CE vs LX debate! Kudos to you, and kudos to your parents who
raised such an intelligent, wise and insightful person.  You are my new HP
idol! I will reserve a tiny little place on my harddrive to save this morsel
of HP wisdom, and with your permission of course, use it to diffuse naysayers
I come across every day extolling the virtures of their little GatesGotcha
toys!

Alex.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:02:00 +1030
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Hi I've been lurking here for quite a while and find the information
provided invaluable for getting the best out of my HP200LX.

I have a T2T 6MB 2x HP200LX which never appears to go into Lite Sleep.
According to numerous programs, Lite Sleep is enabled, but according to
the information from battlog, no lite sleep is ever recorded. The only
things loaded on boot are battlog,andrew2.com and the T2T drivers.

I typically only get about 6-7 hours out of 850mAh Nicads between charges
which I believe may be a result of no lite sleep.

Any suggestions as to why it is enabled yet never goes into action ?

TIA

David Bird

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:25:05 -0800
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Earlier today I made some remarks concerning a "slow character based,
monchrome machine" that may have suggested I regard the 200LX as a backward
or obsolete machine. For this, I apologize to the group and regret my lack
of precision.

I have used a 200LX for many years, and have found it to be a godsend many
times, most recently while in Queensland last year for an exercise with the
US Navy. There is no question but that it has the most comprehensive
software selection on the market, and more importantly, one that seems to
continually evolve.

I agree with many of the points made in the respective postings since I
started this thread and am prepared to concede many of them. I didn't "need"
color or a GUI, but I wanted them. The 200LX was, is, and will no doubt
remain - as long as HP supports it - equally as competent as a WinCE unit.

I appreciate the many fine contributions made to this newsgroup and will
confine my future remarks to its purpose.

Thank you for your time.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 06:44:10 +0200
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Dear Bernard,

On behalf of the list your apology is accepted - but there is no need to
grovel :)

Personally I think that the discussion you provoked pointed out the essence
- different people have different needs and priorities



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David Becher
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, David Bird wrote:

> I typically only get about 6-7 hours out of 850mAh Nicads between charges
> which I believe may be a result of no lite sleep.

Have you got the comm 1 port turned off? This could be one of the reasons
your batteries are draining so quickly. Good luck!!

Jeff


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Desire to use a 200LX to program Solutions Cubed Pocket Watch B
(www.solutions-cubed.com). Wish to scan printed sheet into spreadsheet
format, transfer file to 200LX, then individualy load numerious Pocket
Watch B's in the field.
I do not have much technical background. Requesting help from someone
with experience. Financial compensation probable. Necessary parts will
be provided.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:46:49 -0500
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At 06:44 AM 2/19/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear Bernard,
>Personally I think that the discussion you provoked pointed out the essence
>- different people have different needs and priorities

... And tolerances.  Of course the 200LX is better for our needs than a CE,
but we're beginning to act like Amigans - and we don't want that, do we?
There's enough flame on this list as it is. :)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

A man was walking down the street, when suddenly he decided to cross.  Soon,
he was walking down the other side of the street.  He turned right as he
reached
the intersection.  Then he walked down that street.  As soon as he got to the
end, he turned left, into the pub.  There he got a drink of beer, conversed
with
his friends, and returned home.

The moral of the story:  You can waste bandwidth even when you have nothing
to say.  But if you make it look important, people will read it.  'Tis the
Sacred Art of Bullshit.

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I've been using my 200lx for about 1.5 years now.  I've known about Software
Carousel for quite some time, but until now I've never believed that I
needed it.  I've since grown to find that I now really do need it.  In
particular I have a couple DOS apps that are used constantly.  One of these
will run under the system manager but it's a very tight fit.  There is no
room left to start any other built-in applications.  I'm finding that I
frequently want to refer to a data base, spreadsheet or memo while using the
app.  I'm forced to save my state and quit so I can get the info I want and
then restart the app.  This is tedious.  It also sounds like a job for
Software Carousel.

I asked Shier Systems to sell me a copy and they said it is no longer
available and "The company that 'makes' it has disappeared...".  (They also
suggest they're working on the problem so hopefully this is only temporary.
I did not ask for any further details.)

I know about maxdos.  I vaguely recall some other list member saying that
they preferred maxdos over carousel, but I don't remember if the problem
being solved was relevent.  Is it possible to get back to one instance of a
system manager session to run any of it's built-in apps by some clever trick
with maxdos without terminating the app I started with it? As far as I can
tell from the docs, maxdos' only function is to swap out the system manager
session for the lifetime of the dos app you start.

- paul

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:45:05 +1100
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> ... And tolerances.  Of course the 200LX is better for our needs than a CE,
> but we're beginning to act like Amigans - and we don't want that, do we?Ý*¨

Actually, to the hp620 - I'm just upset because they didn't make such a
machine with the programmer in mind.   );       (left-facing non-smiley)

And in support of it: the Libretto is the closest competitor (IMHO) to the
hp620. But the hp620 is smaller, lighter and has *much* longer battery life.
I suppose the three machines - hp200lx, hp620lx and Libretto - represent
optimal balances:
  {weight, size and battery life}       vs      {memory and processing power}


> There he got a drink of beer, conversed with his friends, and returned home.
I really enjoyed this inspiring story! :) In fact, I can *taste* the beer...
--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
"A classic is something that everyone wants to have read but no one
wants to read."         alt.quotations

Ý*¨ Yes, wouldn't it be terrible to be intolerant of other computer users,
like those awful Amigans? <G>

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>>>Oh, never mind.  Its really a matter of post purchase cognative dissonance.
>>>Cordially,
>>>lynn m. cavendish
"post-purchase cognitive dissonance"
i like that phrase! usually with me, it's more a matter of post-purchase
cognitive enlightenment (and regret of course)   :-D

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Mike:

> include it in the autoexec.bat because it will leave the serial port =
active
> and reduce battery life.  But since you have to drop to DOS to load it =
and

I use it regularly, and the port is open only when the kbd is
plugged and the driver active.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Peniel:

> > But there is also a list of betas hiding under the proper
> > letter. When you press that letter, the list of betas appears.
> > And there is more eastereggs in that program :) Enjoy!
>
> Hmmm...  Haven't seen that yet.  The hunt should be fun  8-)

Yes, and the hint is good, but somewhat oblique. Enjoy...

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Bernie:

> I had a 95/200 for several years and wasn't sure I'd like the 620, but =
I
> have been extremely pleased and wouldn't dream of going back to a slow,
> character-based monochrome machine.

I read the other message you posted (the backpedalling...
:)...) But FYI, most of the apps in palmtop are not character
based, but graphical, albeit CGA. Almost everyting in System
Manager is (may be not parts of Datacom and Lotus), as well as
many DOS programs. PAL-based programs are specifically
graphical. WWW/LX (HV, really) is graphical as it Post/LX. And
our ABC, and TimeTracker/LX, and Magnify.

So no, I am not upset, but I think you did not make the right
statement. The color on the 620 is beautiful. I have used
WinCE machines since they were in beta, and I like certain
aspects of them a great deal. But for me (Avi Meshar, me
only! <G>) the 620 does not pack enough computational power to
do what I easily and regularly do on the 200LX. I only
represent my own usage pattern in this statement, others may
be be in a totally different boat.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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John,

> memory goes. Right now I seem to be having a little trouble with the =
modem
> dialing in WWW/LX. It works just fine in DataComm but it doesn't seem =
to
> dial in WWW/LX. Does anybody use this modem with WWW/LX? Do I need a
> special string sequence?

Fire up WWWSETUP. Choose Setup, then the SETUP of the ISP you
are dialling. Press Enter to edit the Setup. In ModemInit make
it AT&F. The default is ATZ and it sometimes does not work
with EXP modems.

Sorry about the breakage of the palmtop!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:17:05 +0100
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> So no, I am not upset, but I think you did not make the right
> statement. The color on the 620 is beautiful. I have used
> WinCE machines since they were in beta, and I like certain
> aspects of them a great deal. But for me (Avi Meshar, me
> only! <G>) the 620 does not pack enough computational power to
> do what I easily and regularly do on the 200LX. I only
> represent my own usage pattern in this statement, others may
> be be in a totally different boat.

You mean, as a machine the 620 doesn't give you _access_ to enough
processing power? The CE palmtops (at least the new ones) have lots of
processing power, as does the Psion 5 and several others. They just don't
give the programmer acces to it; unless you want to do cross-platform
development (I don't)

Regards,

Laust

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Jeff wrote:
>

I'm not sure about doing it with the built-in macro feature,
but for sure you you can do it with EasyShare.  I've done
similar things on a DOS desktop machine.  Haven't tried it
with EasyShare yet on a 200LX.

EasyShare is shareware.  You can get a trial copy at
 http://www.adisoft-inc.com

> Is it possible when making a macro on the 200LX to have it wait until
> particular thing happens? I'd like to set-up a macro that could dial my
> ISP, wait for a prompt, send name and password perform some taks then
> logoff. I've been playing around with the macro feature and it just
> "blazes" through the steps. This may be a pipedream, but I was just
> wondering.
>
> Jeff
>
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I'm thinking about getting the 8MB EXP card.  I seem to remember reading
once that someone said the card wouldn't work with Jam.  Is that correct?
Does anyone sucessfully run Jam on their EXP card?
-David

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:57:11 -1
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Is it possible to use taglines in nettamer that are loger than 80 caracters,
ie. can you use multiple-line taglines?


Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn            mailto:pruijn@usa.net

The nice thing about standards is that there are many to choose from

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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 Quinton Jones Jr:

Thank you for the prompt reply and suggestions on config.sys settings.
Ian Melville sent me some info also but after a few hours of changing
settings I still get the same message.

I now have NoMouse working also.

I appreciate your time in sending me this info
Thanks again
Shaun

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> You'd be surprised how much faster the 620 would be if it didn't have=
 to
> use the graphics mode...

The HP200LX always uses graphics mode! It is not a character
based mono display as long as you don't shell to DOS!
If you see characters on the screen it does not mean, that the
HP200LX is running in text mode. System manager software only
uses graphics mode! But screen output is really fast. Why?
Because we have additional BIOS support (INT10h) for writing
text in graphics mode. Without this BIOS extension, the HP200LX
would be significantly slower (almost unusable). Most software,
written for the 200LX uses this BIOS extension (because PAL
does :).

What do we learn: The graphics argument may not be used to
compare WinCE with the HP200LX, because they both use graphics
output. If the HP200LX is faster in this respect, now you know
why.

You may always check the screen mode of a running program with
my utility LXPRO.

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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Paul R. Bernard wrote:

> I know about maxdos.  I vaguely recall some other list member saying that
> they preferred maxdos over carousel, but I don't remember if the problem
> being solved was relevent.  Is it possible to get back to one instance of a
> system manager session to run any of it's built-in apps by some clever trick
> with maxdos without terminating the app I started with it? As far as I can
> tell from the docs, maxdos' only function is to swap out the system manager
> session for the lifetime of the dos app you start.

Paul,

Your last statement is correct. MaxDos only swaps out SysMgr for the life
of the DOS app (or DOS session) you want to run. For example, you can't
invoke MaxDos to run a DOS app and swap back to SysMgr to use the HP Calc,
and then swap back to your DOS app. You must exit (ie, terminate) your DOS
app in order to get back to SysMgr.

That deficiency is Software Carousel's great strength. OTOH, SC takes up
much more room in memory (as a TSR) and the question then becomes whether
the biggest SC session can run your app.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:48:37 -0600
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Does anyone (HP, third party, individual, etc...) sell a plain
matching serial port plug for the 200LX? I want to make a special
short cable to interconnect my GPS receiver to my palmtop. I can do
it now, but the two cables are about 10+ feet when combined. A bit
unwieldy. I have a blank plug for the GPS, but I don't have any idea
where to get one for the 200. Any suggestions?

-Chris Lott


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David Bird <dbird@PHYSICS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU> wrote:

> I have a T2T 6MB 2x HP200LX which never appears to go into Lite Sleep.
> According to numerous programs, Lite Sleep is enabled, but according=
 to
> the information from battlog, no lite sleep is ever recorded. <snip...>
>
> I typically only get about 6-7 hours out of 850mAh Nicads between
> charges


It's been a while since I used battlog, but as I recall, it records
when Lite Sleep is OFF, not on.  Does the palmtop shut itself off if
it's not used for 3 minutes?  If it does, then Lite Sleep is on.  Also,
do you have a flash card?  Some can add considerably to battery drain.=

My single-speed 1meg 100LX gets about 8-10hrs on the 850mAH NiCads
(using an older 12V flash card).  The 2X speed upgrade probably
decreases the battery life by 20-25%, so your results aren't too
unreasonable.

-PR
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Chris Lott wrote:

> Does anyone (HP, third party, individual, etc...) sell a plain
> matching serial port plug for the 200LX? I want to make a special
> short cable to interconnect my GPS receiver to my palmtop. I can do
> it now, but the two cables are about 10+ feet when combined. A bit
> unwieldy. I have a blank plug for the GPS, but I don't have any idea
> where to get one for the 200. Any suggestions?

Contact Shier Systems (http://www.shier.com), they make custom cables and
specialize in palmtop stuff, including the 100/200LX.

Maybe they have a generic short cable or plug adapter that plugs into the
LX on one end and has a standard 9-pin serial connector on the
other...that would seem pretty useful (don't know how much they charge
tho).

- Longden

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I got one from Shier for $29.00 + S&H.

Nedim.

At 09:59 AM 2/19/98, you wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Chris Lott wrote:
>
>> Does anyone (HP, third party, individual, etc...) sell a plain
snip
>Contact Shier Systems (http://www.shier.com), they make custom cables and
snip

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Ok, guys and gals, I have on my web site Windoze 1.01, 2.03 & 3.0, but I
have never actually installed these on my 200LX and now I am ready to
take the plunge since I have had my 200LX speed doubled and the 8MB
upgrade performed by Mack of T2T, let me tell you what this palmtop is a
real "sportster" now :). Which version of windows works best on the 200LX
considering that I have no mouse, who can fix me up with a copy of setver
that will work on the palmtop and is anyone willing to provide me with
step by step installation instructions and/or what files I actually need
to install. Thanks in advance for any potential help :)

Jeff


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Chris Lott wrote:
>
> Does anyone (HP, third party, individual, etc...) sell a plain
> matching serial port plug for the 200LX? I want to make a special
> short cable to interconnect my GPS receiver to my palmtop. I can do
> it now, but the two cables are about 10+ feet when combined. A bit
> unwieldy. I have a blank plug for the GPS, but I don't have any idea
> where to get one for the 200. Any suggestions?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> ***********************************************************************
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I found that when I took apart a misbehaving mouse, the internal
connection was plug compatible (but not wire compatible) with my HP95.
It's not perfect, but if you have to work on the other end, it's one way
to go.  Unfortunately I threw away the mouse part and don't have a brand
name.  Fry's sells new ones for a few bucks.

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the address is: ftp://ftp.hacktic.nl/pub/crypto/disk/secdev14.arj
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>I've been trying to give the RS 1200mAH NiMH cells a fair trial in
>spite of their initially poor results.  Somebody (I think it was
>Andreas or Avi) mentioned that NiMH need several charge cycles to
>stabilize.  The latest results seem to agree.  For several cycles I've
>only got a little better than 5 hours of use.  ABC/LX was set for:
>       Max volts    2.83
>        Stall time   4Hrs
>        Max time     12Hrs
>The cells would reach 2.81V in 4hrs or less, then stall.  Total charge
>of about 8hrs.
>On the last charge cycle, the pattern changed - it took almost 5hrs to
>reach 2.79V, stalled there for 3hrs, hit 2.81 and stalled for 4hrs=3D
>Total of about 12hrs.  So far I have a little over 7 hrs of use on
>these cells. =


A couple of observations on these figures:

I believe the high  charging current applied to the batteries is around
100mA, so to charge your RS cells from flat should require around 12 hour=
s
which is what you have achieved in your more recent charges. I have been
using some GP 1500mAH NiMH cells for a few months now and have found that=

they stall for around 5 hours mid way during their charge cycle and then
carry on charging up to around 2.81V. It is possible that your stall peri=
od
of 4 hours may be a bit short, stopping charging before the cells enter t=
he
second phase of charge.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:09:29 -0800
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Laurence Harvey wrote:

> using some GP 1500mAH NiMH cells for a few months now and have found that

What brand is that and where can I get some of those? (In the US).

> they stall for around 5 hours mid way during their charge cycle and then
> carry on charging up to around 2.81V. It is possible that your stall period
> of 4 hours may be a bit short, stopping charging before the cells enter the
> second phase of charge.

How would you compare these 1500mAh cells to other rechargeables in terms
of endurance? I agree that the NiMH cells seem to hit a voltage plateau
and stay there for quite awhile.

- Longden

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        I am trying to get into my database program, but I get the hour
glass symbol forever and the database will not load up.  I eventually have
to hit crtl-alt-del to reboot the whole computer.
        All of my database files are on my Pretec 20mb flash card because I
am running out of room on the HP200 (its only a 1mb; sure would like 32mb).
        Can anyone help me out?
        I also have the windows program to use the phone and appointments
files. Can this be used to open my database files?

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:36:26 -0800
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Bas:

> Is it possible to use taglines in nettamer that are loger than 80 =
caracters,
> ie. can you use multiple-line taglines?

Oh, no! More endlessly repeated, hardly needed "stuff" coming
across the internet! I knew a guy once who had a "tagline"
that was 6K! He was also terribly short with his answers, so
you'd get this "Yes, me too!" reply, and another 6K of
drivel. When we compained he pointed us to several people who
had taglines that exceeded his (one was a 200 line monster!
Really!)

Do you REALLY REALLY need to tell everyone your addresses,
emails,  phone numbers, birthdate, favorite food, favorite
saying, favorite city in the world, and dog's name EACH time?

I finish this with a tag line I will not use, but I think is
cute: (Stolen from someone at UCLA)

         +-----------------------+
         |      Avi Meshar       |
         |   President and CEO   |
         |   D&A Software, Inc.  |
       /)|    info@dasoft.com    |(\
      / )| http://www.dasoft.com |( \
   __(  (+-----------------------+)  )__
  ((( \  \   / )           ( \   /  / )))
  (\\\ \  \_/ /             \ \_/  / ///}
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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:36:38 -0800
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Laust,

> You mean, as a machine the 620 doesn't give you _access_ to enough
> processing power? The CE palmtops (at least the new ones) have lots of
> processing power, as does the Psion 5 and several others. They just =
don't
> give the programmer acces to it; unless you want to do cross-platform
> development (I don't)

No, I mean as a user! I need a program that will perform
relational database work. there is none. I need a program to
call and record credit card transactions, there is none. I
need a program that will process my largish spreadsheets,
Excell chokes. I need to keep track of several other
databases, nothing decent available that matches what 200LX
has. I need it to fit in my pocket, none of the WinCE machines
do. I need to be able to load programs from DOS, for example,
and WinCE cannot. My workstyle and requirements do NOT dictate
that the main work is in the desktop, but instead, on the
palmtop. This is a small sample of what is missing right now,
this minute for me to jump to a 620LX and be able to take my
workload with me from the 200LX. Besides it is too large and
battery life sucks.

Perhaps chip vs. chip the WinCE machines are more formidable,
but all that power is not useful to me, and my workstyle and
what I need to do. I emphasize the "I" again and again,
because all this is not meant to light up another LX War! I
like the WinCE machines in certain ways, but the 620 is
waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too large, and lives waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to
shortly on the battery. It hasn't got all the programs
available today, now, at this moment, that I need in order to
do my business. In contrast, the 200LX has it all! I have used
it as the machine I run primarily to manage 4 businesses for
the past two years, not something I (my personal statement
now!) could say today about the 620.

So that is the point. Power ad speed of chip is useless if I
do not have the programs and facilities to do what I am
ALREADY DOING on the 200LX.

If, and when, the WinCE catches up, it may turn out to be a
nice platform for me personally. Right now, no.

For others the content of the 620 arsenal of programs is
sufficient. I understand and accept that wholeheartedly. But
I, Avi Meshar, I need more than that.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:51:38 -0600
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      IR Power Boost

I just noticed a device my father-in-law has on his stereo system and am
wondering if it could have application with the HPx00lx.  The device is
called Leapfrog and it converts IR signals to fairly powerful RF so you
can control IR devices from "extreme" distances and without "eye-to-eye"
contact.

There is a small converter that covers the IR eye on the remote.  The
converter is about 1cm x 1cm x 2cm.  The receiver is a harddrive-sized
box with a cable terminated in an IR eye that runs to the TV, stereo,
etc..  With this device in place, he can use any function on the remote
from any floor in his home or from outdoors.

I'm wondering whether this would work with an HPx00lx and an IR printer.
I could print from the HP from anywhere in my office (assuming RF noise
is low) without a cable or without lining up the little eyes.  If it
would work, it might even be possible to connect with the colleague
across the hall or to your desktop system from the conference room.  The
Oooh-Aaaah value could be quite high.

Of course, I imagine handling short, simple signals from a TV remote is a
different animal altogether from data handling.  Still, if anyone has one
of these devices or can spare the $100 or so to Best Buy and has an IR
printer, I'd like to know how/if it works. I might be convinced to get an
IR controller if it has promise.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - To those who asked about the CE mailing list, I think the address to
join is Join-WindowsCE-Talk@Lists.WindowsCE.com.  Beware that the
signal-to-noise ratio is very high.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:00:46 -0500
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Has anyone figured out a way to make the GETKEY funciton in LXBatch
recognize the ÝMenu¨ key?  How do I make the ÝMenu¨ key pop-up the menu?

Thanks.
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Has anyone been able to use CIC100 to setup a modem in only one Software
Carousel Work Area?

What I mean:  CIC100 requires about 6K in memory when loaded.  I would like
to avoid loading it except when needed (and not have to reboot afterward),
so I load  it in one of my Carousel Work Areas.  It works while I stay in
that area, but once I switch out, it hard-freezes the system (Shift-Ctrl-On
gets me out).

Anyone know a work around?  Alternatively, anyone know how to unload CIC100?

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Randy Simonson wrote:
>
>         I am trying to get into my database program, but I get the hour
> glass symbol forever and the database will not load up.  I eventually have
> to hit crtl-alt-del to reboot the whole computer.

I'm not sure I understand all of this question but here is my
suggestion. Sounds like it's trying to load a database that's
corrupted.  Since the 200LX loads the last database you used when you
exited the program, try renaming that database with filer.  Then when
you try to load, it will stop and report that it can't but then you can
open another database.  If that works, you might assume that the first
database is corrupted.  If so, try running the Garlic program(available
from SUPER) to repair it.  I definitely don't understand the last part
of your question.  Good luck.

Jim

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Unused Newton Keyboard for sale/trade.
Complete with box and registration card.
Model x0044 (somewhat newer than
that mentioned in NTKPAC05.zip (on Super))

Make up a din-8 to 9-pin serial cable
and use it with your LX.

I would really like to trade it for a somewhat
damaged, functional 100LX - ie, a while back
someone had one with defective serial port but
good PCMCIA. Crack OK, no broken hinges.

Or I will sell if for $55 prepaid.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:45:21 -0600
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Larry Zimmerman wrote:

> I just noticed a device my father-in-law has on his stereo system and am
> wondering if it could have application with the HPx00lx.  The device is
> called Leapfrog and it converts IR signals to fairly powerful RF so you
> can control IR devices from "extreme" distances and without "eye-to-eye"
> contact.

I contemplated trying this a few months ago, but those things aren't
so easy to find these days.  I think the Leapfrog has been discontinued.

If you have a source for them, please share!

-Brian

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:54:24 -0500
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Can someone advise me about cables for direct parallel printing, from HP =
=96
to a parallel printer. I have a need for such cable, but I remember seein=
g
messages about some cables being better than others, and some not working
up all.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Mikhail


Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, General Forensic & Correctional Psychiatry
416-842-1446 or 800-263-1420 ext.635-274. Fax 905-628-4443
155 James St. South, # 167, Hamilton, Ontario, L8N 1H5, Canada

This document was composed using voice recognition software.=20
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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:00:06 -0800
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Laurence,

Thanks for the observation on NiMH charging.

> I believe the high  charging current applied to the batteries is around
> 100mA, so to charge your RS cells from flat should require around 12 =
hours
> which is what you have achieved in your more recent charges. I have =
been
> using some GP 1500mAH NiMH cells for a few months now and have found =
that

That is true for charging from FLAT EMPTY! But batteries in
the Palmtop do not get down so low, they reach about 2.35V and
the palmtop begins to complain! I have no idea how much charge
is represented by that voltage.

Also, the 100mAh current supplied is not necessarily 100%
efficient, and _effective_ rate is different.

> they stall for around 5 hours mid way during their charge cycle and =
then
> carry on charging up to around 2.81V. It is possible that your stall
> period of 4 hours may be a bit short, stopping charging before the =
cells
> enter the second phase of charge.

Very interesting information. Thank you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Larry Zimmerman wrote:
>
> I just noticed a device my father-in-law has on his stereo system and am
> wondering if it could have application with the HPx00lx.  The device is
> called Leapfrog and it converts IR signals to fairly powerful RF so you
> can control IR devices from "extreme" distances and without "eye-to-eye"
> contact.
>
> There is a small converter that covers the IR eye on the remote.  The
> converter is about 1cm x 1cm x 2cm.  The receiver is a harddrive-sized
> box with a cable terminated in an IR eye that runs to the TV, stereo,
> etc..  With this device in place, he can use any function on the remote
> from any floor in his home or from outdoors.
>
> I'm wondering whether this would work with an HPx00lx and an IR printer.
> I could print from the HP from anywhere in my office (assuming RF noise
> is low) without a cable or without lining up the little eyes.  If it
> would work, it might even be possible to connect with the colleague
> across the hall or to your desktop system from the conference room.  The
> Oooh-Aaaah value could be quite high.
>
>
> Larry Zimmerman
--
Beware the FCC on this, Larry.  There were a few of these devices as
well as RF "repeaters" for television signals that turned out to be
illegal to sell or use.  I believe one of them was the "rabbit" remote.
(if memory serves)  If this is for remote signals, I would suspect it
may be too bandwidth limited in any case.
_______________________________________________

mark beutler
mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
ICQ 3851271

see you on the other side of the monoblock
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Brian Jensen wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Larry Zimmerman wrote:
........
>.  The device is
> > called Leapfrog and it converts IR signals to fairly powerful RF so you
> > can control IR devices from "extreme" distances and without "eye-to-eye"
> > contact.
>
> I contemplated trying this a few months ago, but those things aren't
> so easy to find these days.  I think the Leapfrog has been discontinued.
>

I suspect these are similar to devices used to extend IR remote usage to
different rooms, for use with DSS satellite receivers, VCRs, etc.  I
have
not tried using mine with anything but the VCR and DSS, but I imagine
they
would work.  The data rate might be limited, since remote controls don't
usually send kilobytes/megabytes of data, so it might be worth testing
to insure it could be used for data versus byte-sized commands.

john
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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:26:05 -0800
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hmm, let's see what this starts, ...

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:04:40 +0100
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> > You'd be surprised how much faster the 620 would be if it didn't have to
> > use the graphics mode...
>
> The HP200LX always uses graphics mode! It is not a character
> based mono display as long as you don't shell to DOS!
> If you see characters on the screen it does not mean, that the
> HP200LX is running in text mode. System manager software only
> uses graphics mode! But screen output is really fast. Why?
> Because we have additional BIOS support (INT10h) for writing
> text in graphics mode. Without this BIOS extension, the HP200LX
> would be significantly slower (almost unusable). Most software,
> written for the 200LX uses this BIOS extension (because PAL
> does :).

I am aware of this, but I usually use plain DOS and text-based apps, hence
my comment. I guess the problem with the CE palmtops is that they do not
have hardware support for fonts, at least not in the same way the LX does.
Obviously only having one font must speed things up a bit...

> What do we learn: The graphics argument may not be used to
> compare WinCE with the HP200LX, because they both use graphics
> output. If the HP200LX is faster in this respect, now you know
> why.

So my comment should be changed to:  "You'd be surprised how much faster
the 620 would be if it used a hardware accelerated graphics mode..." ;-)

(I still think the argument is relevant, though, since the LX does provide
a proper text-mode and since it is apparently very fast at providing text
in graphics modes)


Regards,

Laust

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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> hmm, let's see what this starts, ...
>

ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/doc-net/sigart03.zip (~110kb)

Is a nice collection of signatures, collected by Finnish professor Timo
Salmi.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:58:53 -0800
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Perhaps there is some way to print to a parallel printer from a serial
port but I've never heard of it.  There are such beasts as serial
printers ( that print from serial ports).

One could add a parallel port using a PCMCIA card like Trans PC card,
and then connect to a parallel printer.


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>
>Can someone advise me about cables for direct parallel printing, from HP -
>to a parallel printer. I have a need for such cable, but I remember seeing
>messages about some cables being better than others, and some not working
>up all.
>
>Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Mikhail
>
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There are serial to parallel cables available for the HP. I got mine from
NSW, but other suppliers should have them around. Check out the Thaddeus
issues.

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>
> Perhaps there is some way to print to a parallel printer from a serial
> port but I've never heard of it.  There are such beasts as serial
> printers ( that print from serial ports).
>
> One could add a parallel port using a PCMCIA card like Trans PC card,
> and then connect to a parallel printer.
>
>
> >----------
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> >
> >Can someone advise me about cables for direct parallel printing, from HP
> -
> >to a parallel printer. I have a need for such cable, but I remember
> seeing
> >messages about some cables being better than others, and some not working
> >up all.
> >
> >Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Mikhail
> >
> >
> >Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, General Forensic & Correctional Psychiatry
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Is there any way to turn off the stall time so the program won't use the
stall time to sense whether to stop charging?

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:25:45 -0800
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Is there any way to turn off the stall time so the program won't use the
> stall time to sense whether to stop charging?

You could set the stall time to some obscenely long time (like 15 hours)
at the risk of sending your batteries (and LX) up in smoke.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:48:19 -0500
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Jay - are you happy with your cable? Do you experience any problems
printing.

Mikhail

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>
> There are serial to parallel cables available for the HP. I got mine from
> NSW, but other suppliers should have them around. Check out the Thaddeus
> issues.
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Claud:

> hmm, let's see what this starts, ...

Yeah, let's see... I won't use it again, because it conveys
zero info. (Probably my posts convey as much :) ...)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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John,

> Is there any way to turn off the stall time so the program won't use =
the
> stall time to sense whether to stop charging?

Gee, I guess you do not have the manual... Try F2 and specify
stall time of 0.00. (Bet you have that ill-fated beta copy
that's full of bugs from the PTP CD!) You really should not
use buggy programs that were placed there without permission.
Oh well...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:44:41 -0800
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Longden,

> > Is there any way to turn off the stall time so the program won't use =
the
> > stall time to sense whether to stop charging?
>
> You could set the stall time to some obscenely long time (like 15 =
hours)
> at the risk of sending your batteries (and LX) up in smoke.

Oh, I see. I understood John's question the other way around,
and suggested 0 stall time. Your way works well too, but I
would ot advise it for the reasons you mentioned (frying,
toasting and otherwise abusing your palmtop - but this is my
own paraphrase!).

In any case there is a limit to the amount of time you can
put in, and there are two other "governonrs": Voltage and
total charge time.

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In a message dated 98-02-19 19:00:23 EST, you write:

<< Perhaps there is some way to print to a parallel printer from a serial
 port but I've never heard of it. >>


I have a Serial-Parallel converter I bought for my WinCE machine, before I
traded it for a 200lx. It plugs into the serial transfer cable and works well.
It does not require external power and is not any larger than a regular 36pin
DB Centronics connector. I don't remember the brand name, but I can look it
up. Got it from www.Pygmy.com. (It is not the Greenwich Instruments one which
was more expensive.)

Dennis

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I just purchased a ga945 direct to printer cable this is a serial/parallel
converter that is made by Grenwich Co. I am using with a 200lx and hp320
deskjet portable printer and it works just fine. contact One Stop Palmtop Shop
ask for catalog the converter cost 74.95 plus 10.00 shipping  1800 709 9494
http://www.mrpalmtop.com
Roy

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:47:35 -0800
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Paul,

        As of this morning Shier had 14 copies of Software Carousel.  These
were purchased in Europe and there will be no more.

Colin

Paul R. Bernard wrote:
>
> I asked Shier Systems to sell me a copy and they said it is no longer
> available and "The company that 'makes' it has disappeared...".  (They also
> suggest they're working on the problem so hopefully this is only temporary.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:32:16 -0500
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is there an ideal voltage (i.e., 5v. ,6v, etc.) for a flash card, to be
used in the 200LX?

what is the maximum voltage a card can have, to be used successfully
with the 200LX?

thanks

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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:55:14 -0800
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The best option is a dual voltage 3.3/5.0 dual voltage card, such as the
newer SanDisk or Viking/Simple Cards. The older 5.0/12.0 volt cards consume
more power during read/write cycles and in sleep mode.

Newer cards such as those referenced above have an AutoSensing mode that
will select the optimal voltage to be used.

It is also helpful to review EACH mfrs specs for their respective cards.
SanDisk uses its own proprietary controller; Viking uses a Lexar controller.
Both are 3.3/5.0 volt Autosensing, but Viking uses much less (22-33mA) power
than SanDisk (33-44mA) in read/write operations.

Speed should not be confused with voltage, either. Again, refer to the mfr's
specifications. The SanDisk cards are SLOOOWWW compared to the Viking cards;
the latter have a transfer rate which is up to 60% faster than SanDisk, and
a continuous transfer rate that is nearly double.

For more information on Viking see www.vikingcomponents.com or www.lexr.com
If you are interested in obtaining a Viking card, please let me know.
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Date: 19 February, 1998 19:37
Subject: flash card voltage


>is there an ideal voltage (i.e., 5v. ,6v, etc.) for a flash card, to be
>used in the 200LX?
>
>what is the maximum voltage a card can have, to be used successfully
>with the 200LX?
>
>thanks
>
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On 1998-02-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I am trying to get into my database program, but I get the hour
   >glass symbol forever and the database will not load up.  I

Have you a large database file that you had open and did a reset
without closing it? This is one reason for the delay, the app
searches the records carefully to check flags before opening.

One way to get in, is to start the database with your card out,
so it is open with no file loaded, then try to open this file
again. If it still hangs, try garlick {available on the super
site} to clean up the mess inside the file.

You could also try gdbio & gdbdump {also on super}

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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> like those awful Amigans? <G>
>

I know of Lilliputans Ýsic?¨, but not Amigans - can someone
enlighten me?



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> Date sent:      Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:47:35 -0800
> From:           Colin Thompson <burkec@goldstate.net>

>         As of this morning Shier had 14 copies of Software Carousel.  These
> were purchased in Europe and there will be no more.

Yes.  I asked about it a week or so ago.  Apparently these arrived the
day or so I asked the list for alternatives.  I have one on order now.

Thank you one and all for the help and the many other useful tips I received
privately.

- paul

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> > like those awful Amigans? <G>
> I know of Lilliputans Ýsic?¨, but not Amigans - can someone
> enlighten me?

I think the reference is to Amiga users.

The Amiga was a computer that came out around the time of the first IBM PC
(or a little earlier?). It was much better than anything else. But perhaps
because it was marketed more as a cool programmer's/game machine, rather
than a business machine, it lost out to the PC - though this was
perhaps inevitable.

But you can imagine the loyal, fanatical following that it created, and
their frustration when it lost out. There was also bankruptcy involved,
and I remember a quote from the CEO of one of the companies that tried
to save it, saying that the fanaticism of the Amiga users was no help
at all.

This may be ringing bells.

--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
"A classic is something that everyone wants to have read but no one
wants to read."         alt.quotations

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I think you will find it was a little later than the PC!

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Date: 20 February 1998 07:43
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>> > like those awful Amigans? <G>
>> I know of Lilliputans Ýsic?¨, but not Amigans - can someone
>> enlighten me?
>
>I think the reference is to Amiga users.
>
>The Amiga was a computer that came out around the time of the first IBM PC
>(or a little earlier?). It was much better than anything else. But perhaps
>because it was marketed more as a cool programmer's/game machine, rather
>than a business machine, it lost out to the PC - though this was
>perhaps inevitable.
>
>But you can imagine the loyal, fanatical following that it created, and
>their frustration when it lost out. There was also bankruptcy involved,
>and I remember a quote from the CEO of one of the companies that tried
>to save it, saying that the fanaticism of the Amiga users was no help
>at all.
>
>This may be ringing bells.
>
>--
>Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
>"A classic is something that everyone wants to have read but no one
>wants to read."         alt.quotations
>
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>From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
>That deficiency is Software Carousel's great strength. OTOH, SC takes up
>much more room in memory (as a TSR) and the question then becomes whether
>the biggest SC session can run your app.

My biggest DOS sessions under SC are about 570k.  I have 2 of them
defined along with a single 384K session for the HPLX System Manager.
My swap file is 1.3M which isn't too much on my 200LX 4M.

Software Carousel = good stuff.

  Software Carousel
  800-553-4000
  http://www.group32.com

Cheers...
Russ

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An HP620 has a 640x240 screen at 8 bits per pixel, so the total bytes for a
screen write is 153,600. The HP200 has 640x200 screen in 1 bit per pixel,
so the total bytes for a screen write is 16,000. So, you need about 10x
faster processor just to break even on screen writes. So, 8Mhz 200 = 80Hhz
620 in the roughest of approximations. At least for screen writes. Any
calculation type stuff will happen 10x faster.

for instance, I wrote a version of vertical reader for WinCE, and I can
paginate on the fly with CE, but the original required a fair delay so
stored pagination info to a file so as not to recreate it constantly.

rick

:
: So my comment should be changed to:  "You'd be surprised how much faster
: the 620 would be if it used a hardware accelerated graphics mode..." ;-)
:
: (I still think the argument is relevant, though, since the LX does
provide
: a proper text-mode and since it is apparently very fast at providing text
: in graphics modes)
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graphics mode...&quot; ;-)<br>: <br>: (I still think the argument is =
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Is Carousel will be ABANDONWARE ????
If yes, can someone sendme a copy?

best regard
in another way, it's not so good if they stop to upgrade it.
Al

> Paul,
>
>         As of this morning Shier had 14 copies of Software Carousel.
>          These
> were purchased in Europe and there will be no more.
>
> Colin
>
> Paul R. Bernard wrote:
> >
> > I asked Shier Systems to sell me a copy and they said it is no
> > longer available and "The company that 'makes' it has
> > disappeared...".  (They also suggest they're working on the
> > problem so hopefully this is only temporary.
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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I was going through the latest Edmund Scientific catalog and saw a
flexible light panel that someone with a lot of time and money on
his/her hands could have fun with to make the dream of backlighting
possible.  I made a scan of the page, follow the link if it interests
you....

http://www.flash.net/~cmevans/backlit.htm

mike

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Some time ago I downloaded the project mangement software EXM by a Japanese
author (docs for hich can be found at the SUPER page) but I lost the program
and do not remember where I found it in the first place. Does anyone know?

Thanks

Frank

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You are right. It was late when I read through the docs for the keyboard
driver.  It is great to have one keyboard for two machines.  Yes I own a
newton also.  It now sits on my desk and is used very little.  At one time I
really thought that that was the answer.  Pen base machines have their place
but I found out that they can't do everything.

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Mike wrote:
>
> I was going through the latest Edmund Scientific catalog and saw a
> flexible light panel that someone with a lot of time and money on
> his/her hands could have fun with to make the dream of backlighting
> possible.  I made a scan of the page, follow the link if it interests
> you....

Those panels from Edmund Scientific are really terrible as far as light quality
goes, and they're very flimsy.  Definitely not worth the $150 that EdSci
charges for them...

But there are other solutions in the works.
--
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        Thanks for the help.  I was able the change the names and get back
into the database.
        I tried to use Garlic on 3 files, but it only came up with error
messages.  I also tried GDBIO and GDBDUMP, same results.  I don't know if
there was too much damage or what.
        So, I went back and found backups of these files.  I haven't used
the files for a while, so last month's backups of the files worked fine.

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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Randy Simonson wrote:

>         I tried to use Garlic on 3 files, but it only came up with error
> messages.  I also tried GDBIO and GDBDUMP, same results.  I don't know if
> there was too much damage or what.
>         So, I went back and found backups of these files.  I haven't used
> the files for a while, so last month's backups of the files worked fine.

Glad you were able to recover. On this subject, does anyone have a simple
program (or is that an oxymoron?) that I can run during my nightly backups
that would process a list of databases (and on my LX there are alot) and
perhaps flag a 'todo' in the Appt app if it finds something wrong (OTOH,
what if the Appt database is the one with the problem).

A nice little report with a summary of how many records in each and the
kinds of problems found might alert a user to bigger problems down the
road. Kind of like a 'chkdsk' for database files.

- Longden

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Greetings,

     Davis asked me to forward his comments to the list as he is not=
 a
regular subscriber...AJKind

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From- Davis Chapel <chapel@cliffhanger.com>
Subject- Publicly thanking Mack Baggette

Mack Baggette offered prizes in an essay contest at David Sargeant's=
 web
page.  I was lucky enough to win a prize, but having already owned the
item, offered the winnings to someone else.  Well, Mack, the nice guy=
 that
he is, offered me many other items of nearly equal value (batteries,
software, an upcoming tiny AC adapter for the LX...). At the same time,
Mack honored my request to give the prize to the other individual, who=
 in
turn is selling the memory upgrade in order to replace his stolen 200LX.
The gesture would put Mack out twice what he initially dropped into=
 the
first prize.

Mack Baggette deserves public praise.  I invite the list to consider=
 him
for their future palmtop needs.  He's a dang nice guy.

I have no affiliation with Mack's company, and up till now, hadn't ever
ordered anything from Times 2 Tech.

Regards,
Davis Chapel


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Could you run Garlic and append it's output to a text file called
"appts.ini" (sure, you would have to "prep" the appts.ini file for an
additional wad of text).  Then every morning when you turn on your
palmtop, the greeting would consist of a report of last night's
activities.

Phil

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>Sent:  Friday, February 20, 1998 9:50 AM
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>
>
><snip>
>
>A nice little report with a summary of how many records in each and the
>kinds of problems found might alert a user to bigger problems down the
>road. Kind of like a 'chkdsk' for database files.
>
>- Longden
>
>

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Hi all.

As one of those Amigans...  :-))   I have to say that the Amiga was a
fantastic computer....especially with any form of graphics.    Some of the
local schools specializing in performing on stage, etc., use the Amiga because
of its capabilities.   We lost out because primarily the software companies
decided not to invest their money or time ($$$$)  into programs and the
computer died.   It was owned by Comadore originally and bought out a couple
times before it closed out competely.  Some say that there are some available
under a different name in Europe.   I do not know about that.

Cathy

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Question:  What does the Software Carousel have that makes it so special???

Cathy

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I always keep an eye open for the opportunity to "collect" an Amiga, but
as a testament to it's usefulness/performance I never have seen one for
sale. (outside of offers on the internet.  I would like to touch and
feel before buying)

Phil

>

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:02:18 -0800
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Maybe. but:

1) I don't currently have a corrupt database, so I don't know what kinds
of messages Garlic will put out (ie, will it describe which record was
bad?  I don't think so)

2) Seems like it'd be doing more work than I want (a bogus database fix)
and giving me less info than I may want (see above). Basically, if Garlic
'fixes' my 700 record phone database by throwing out a bad entry, I'd like
to know entry caused the problem in case I have to manually reenter the
data that went bad. If I had 2 databases, the original and the fixed,
there isn't an EASY way to 'diff' them...and I shouldn't have to if the
diagnostic program worked the way it'd make sense to work.

But it's a thought. Thanks.

- Longden

On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Could you run Garlic and append it's output to a text file called
> "appts.ini" (sure, you would have to "prep" the appts.ini file for an
> additional wad of text).  Then every morning when you turn on your
> palmtop, the greeting would consist of a report of last night's
> activities.
>
> Phil
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  Longden C. Loo ÝSMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM¨
> >A nice little report with a summary of how many records in each and the
> >kinds of problems found might alert a user to bigger problems down the
> >road. Kind of like a 'chkdsk' for database files.

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First of all, if this message is inappropriate for this list member
group, I apologize in advance, and it will not happen again. Perhaps a
message with the right group would be a great help. I only thought that
I would offer the items first to a place that has helped me with my
200LX.

I have a number of items acquired over my computing years, that now I
would like to sell or trade for other wants for my 200LX.  Rather then
have a long list  ( and perhaps wrong place ) I would be glad to e-mail
a list to those that may be interested.  All items are in excellent
condition, and includes after market books, original software, etc. If
it is OK to list here, then in the future I will, but for now my e-mail
address is:
nite_owl@frontiernet.net, on the same note I am looking for memory
expansion cards, and a portable modem would also interest me.

By the way, the items I am offering are also for the 200LX unit. ie
DesqView manuals, MS Word 5.0 original software etc.

Thanks again

Ron

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:08:11 -0800
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> Question:  What does the Software Carousel have that makes it so special???

It's a task-swapper program for DOS that was re-designed to work on the
LX. You can maintain several DOS or SysMgr sessions concurrently and
switch between them without having to exit/terminate any one of them.

It makes like you have 10+ palmtops without the added weight <g>.

It sounds like good stuff, but there are probably some drawbacks as well.

- Longden

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Ron, I'd like to see your list.

Thanks.


 -Susana

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:32:49 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Here's a message that David Shier sent me regarding the situation
with SC, and I told him I would publish his response to this mailing
list. Hopefully this will answer some questions that have arisen. As
for me, I placed an order this morning, and was told that it would
ship today.  -Chris Lott

> I wish I knew the full story. What I do know is that we tried to
> place an order, but found their 800 number disconnected. We tried
> to trace them down without luck. Then, a customer of ours told me
> that his office is located in the same building as Sunshine
> Software (renamed Group 32). He went to the office, to find it
> vacated. That's the extent of what I know.
>
> In the meantime, my distributor in Germany was the exclusive
> European distributor for Software Carousel, and had a number of
> copies in stock. I purchased a few when I was there last week, and
> can still get a few more copies from him, until they all run out.
>
> As neither of us have any license rights to make more copies, once
> the current inventory is gone (around 75 copies) then it will not
> be offered unless we can locate the author and find out if he has
> the rights to make more copies.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Shier



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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:32:28 -0500
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Brian Jensen wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Larry Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > I just noticed a device my father-in-law has on his stereo system and am
> > wondering if it could have application with the HPx00lx.  The device is
> > called Leapfrog and it converts IR signals to fairly powerful RF so you
> > can control IR devices from "extreme" distances and without "eye-to-eye"
> > contact.
>
> I contemplated trying this a few months ago, but those things aren't
> so easy to find these days.  I think the Leapfrog has been discontinued.
>
> If you have a source for them, please share!
>
> -Brian

Best Buy had this product a couple of months ago.

Jim

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:39:14 -0500
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On 20-Feb-98, Cathy Schlim wrote:
>As one of those Amigans...  :-))   I have to say that the Amiga was a
>fantastic computer....especially with any form of graphics.    Some of the
>local schools specializing in performing on stage, etc., use the Amiga
because
>of its capabilities.   We lost out because primarily the software companies
>decided not to invest their money or time ($$$$)  into programs and the
>computer died.   It was owned by Comadore originally and bought out a couple
>times before it closed out competely.  Some say that there are some available
>under a different name in Europe.   I do not know about that.

As another of those Amiganauts, I just want to clarify that the Amiga has not
"closed out completely", but has been surviving all of these years in the
underground, waiting for the right moment to return to the public eye.
Aminet, the Amiga equivalent of SUPER, is the largest (and safest) shareware
repository for any one computer.  Check out www.cucug.org/amiga.html for more
info on what's the latest thing for Amigas.  Yes, Commodore did run the
technology into the ground, but paid the ultimate price of bankruptcy.  The
Amiga curse has taken its wrath on a couple of other multinational
corporations, but the orphaned technology is very much in demand.  Gateway
2000 (the cow computers) has recently acquired the rights to Amiga
International and the intellectual property.

Sorry about my rant, which may have been inappropriate for this mailing list,
but Amiga folks (like HP200lx folks) are rabid defenders of their favorite
technologies.  I have seen a number of names on this and other Amiga mailing
lists, so I know that there are others of you out there.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Hi,

        To further corrupt the signal to noise ratio on this list, more Amiga
stuff.  Several of my local TV stations have banks of Amigas with Video
Toasters for image processing.  My neighbor has three Toaster equiped
Amigas and does image processing for hire.  It's a slick machine,
especially for 1986 tech.

Colin

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:24:17 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:
>
> > Question:  What does the Software Carousel have that makes it so special???
>
> It's a task-swapper program for DOS that was re-designed to work on the
> LX. You can maintain several DOS or SysMgr sessions concurrently and
> switch between them without having to exit/terminate any one of them.

I remember back on the old list, there was a lot of talk about using
Dosshell as a cheap alternative to SC. Is anyone doing this?

Also, I read somewhere that Dosshell was merely a cut down (and licensed)
version of a tool included with PC Tools. Does anyone have additional info
on this?

> It makes like you have 10+ palmtops without the added weight <g>.

Actually, all those extra running processes will result in the memory
being filled with additional binary 1s and thus not only will the LX
become heavier, it will also consume more power ;-)  (*)

> It sounds like good stuff, but there are probably some drawbacks as well.

Such as a decreased amount of memory in each process you run.



(*) Actually the idea that binary ones will make the LX heavier was
stolen from a humorous article posted in comp.sys.hp48. If anyone wants a
copy, let me know.



Cheers,

Laust

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Set the stall time for something like 14:00 hours, then it will never be a criteria
for terminating the charge.

--- On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:11:20 -0500  John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU> wrote:

>Is there any way to turn off the stall time so the program won't use the
>stall time to sense whether to stop charging?
>
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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:12:50 -0800
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Subject:      Abandonware ÝRE: Software Carousel¨
Comments: To: Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>

I'm really not sure there is a legal grounding for "abandonware". The holder
of a copyright retains that copyright even if he chooses not to distribute
further copies.

Now (speaking for myself) I don't expect Microsoft to nail anyone for
putting Windows 1.03 on a web site - it's busy enough just trying to stop
pirating of products it still sells (or hasn't even released yet, like
Windows 98 and NT 5!). However, any indication of excitement or glee over a
product from a small company "becoming abandonware" really makes me feel
uncomfortable. (Al, forgive me if I misread the emotional content of your
message.) It's hard enough to make money in niche software markets without
having to compete with "abandonware" from newly failed businesses.

I'm not expecting many of you to agree with me, but I felt that I should at
least state my views.

- Joe

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        From:   Al ÝSMTP:wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU¨
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        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Software Carousel

        Is Carousel will be ABANDONWARE ????
        If yes, can someone sendme a copy?

        best regard
        in another way, it's not so good if they stop to upgrade it.
        Al


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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:21:37 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Someone on the list was looking for the Japanese project management program
mentioned in the PROJECT.ZIP file on S.U.P.E.R.

The file is at ftp://ftp.libertynet.org/site/graphiti/hplx/Japan/ under
pjt20012.lzh I believe.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:41:35 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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On 1998-02-19 prb@THINKAGE.ON.CA said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I've been using my 200lx for about 1.5 years now.  I've known about
   >Software Carousel for quite some time, but until now I've never
   >believed that I needed it.  I've since grown to find that I now
   >really do need it.  In particular I have a couple DOS apps that are
   >used constantly.  One of these will run under the system manager

snip

I have used maxdos, dosshell and software carousel. Here's what I think
of each:

maxdos
------
- Takes up little swap space
- fast
- ony good for one instance to allow more memory when calling a dos shell
  from anywhere (including sysmgr and other apps).
- freeware


doshell
-------
- Takes up little swap space
- Not so fast but workable if swapping to c: (8-10 second task swap)
- Has problems with graphics sysmgr and other screens
- no EMM support
- free

SC
--
- Very fast, esp if used with EMM
- More configuration options than DS
- Needs lots more swap space than DS. Better with mem expanded LX.
- $$
- Has API capabilities with lxbatch
- witten specifically to work with the LX.


I still use maxdos from within SC. It can be used within and SC work
area. I was able to get SC used. I guess if it doesn't come back up for
sale it may become abandonware....



           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

A conservative is one who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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->The CE palmtops (at least the new ones) have lots of
->processing power, as does the Psion 5 and several others. They just
->don't give the programmer acces to it; unless you want to do
->cross-platform development (I don't)

Doesn't that "lots of prcessing power" translate into speed in the Psion
5?  I have heard that it's speed searching the database and similar is
quite remarkable.  Is that so and does the Psion have as many shareware
products as the LX?

Jeff

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I too want to thank Mack Baggette for the donated prizes and David
Sargeant for hosting the contest. I won second prize, the speed upgrade.
When it came time to find out where T2T was to know where to ship my
palmtop to, I found out that Mack is only about 2 miles away from me :)
It was a very nice experience to meet Mack, his wife and their lovely
(and trust me she is a cutie!!!) daughter. While I was there I went ahead
and got Mack to do the RAM upgrade. I now have a speed doubled, 8MB 200LX
with a pair of Mack's famous NiMH batteries. My 200LX seems to run as
fast as, if not faster than the 50MHz 486 machine I use in my job, and at
times it seems as fast as my Pentium machine at home. Having watched Mack
upgrade my palmtop, I am convinced that there can't be anyone more suited
for the job. He has the latest in surface mount soldering tools and the
ultimate in testing technology, he's got a Fluke scope that I would kill
to have :) I heavily encourage anyone interested in having their 200LX
upgraded to let Mack handle the job for you, there's no way you can go
wrong. Once again, thanks to those who allowed me to win my nifty
prize!!!

Jeff


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I'm never hhappy when a business go down.
I never bought for this software, because
I wasn't able to test it and
I thought it was to expensive for me,
especialy when you have to pay the shiping to Australia.

This is the raison I ask to someone to send it to me.

For information, I have several REGITRED shareware running on my
desktop, and I own Most of the abandonwares which are one my web
site. (wor 5.5, Framework III, MSASM,Spring...)
You are working from Microsoft, so if you can found an original
version of Visual Basic Pro and Word 6.0 DOS, I'm ready to buy then.
Because at this time nobody repply to any advertissement I use to put
about these software.
Evene I have a copy of Visual basic, I'm still looking for the
original.

And Sorry for my english,
some tine (often) I can say exactly what I think.

alain


> I'm really not sure there is a legal grounding for "abandonware". The holder
> of a copyright retains that copyright even if he chooses not to distribute
> further copies.
>
> Now (speaking for myself) I don't expect Microsoft to nail anyone for
> putting Windows 1.03 on a web site - it's busy enough just trying to stop
> pirating of products it still sells (or hasn't even released yet, like
> Windows 98 and NT 5!). However, any indication of excitement or glee over a
> product from a small company "becoming abandonware" really makes me feel
> uncomfortable. (Al, forgive me if I misread the emotional content of your
> message.) It's hard enough to make money in niche software markets without
> having to compete with "abandonware" from newly failed businesses.
>
> I'm not expecting many of you to agree with me, but I felt that I should at
> least state my views.
>
> - Joe
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Al ÝSMTP:wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU¨
>       Sent:   Friday, February 20, 1998 8:03 AM
>       To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>       Subject:        Re: Software Carousel
>
>       Is Carousel will be ABANDONWARE ????
>       If yes, can someone sendme a copy?
>
>       best regard
>       in another way, it's not so good if they stop to upgrade it.
>       Al
>
>
>
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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am looking for some help with wwwlx and postlx.  (i have not used these
in a coon's age)

when i run wwwlx, i get as far as "sending password" then get    ***
aborting!  timeout or user interrupt while waiting for ':'    message.
modem hangs up, exits wwwlx.

when i run postlx, system locks hard, will not reset via 3 finger
salute, etc.  when last tried, i had to remove all batteries and start
from scratch. (sigh)

any of this sound familiar to anyone?  any help would be appreciated.
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   >I remember back on the old list, there was a lot of talk about using
   >Dosshell as a cheap alternative to SC. Is anyone doing this?

Yup, dosshell does work on the palmtop. It's advantage over
Software Carousel is that it is included in any Dos 5.0 install
package.

Disadvantages: It is a little tricky to setup task switching, the
video reverses (white on black) each time you swap, and the
biggie is that Software Carousel is written for the LX and
recognizes all the blue keys to allow instant(!) access to the
built-in apps.



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Al,

Thanks for the reply. I don't myself have original versions of either Visual
Basic Pro or Word 6.0 for DOS, but I can try advertising in the company
newletter's classified ads to see if anyone has copies they're willing to
sell.

- Joe

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At 07:19 PM 2/21/98 +1300, you wrote:
>   >I remember back on the old list, there was a lot of talk about using
>   >Dosshell as a cheap alternative to SC. Is anyone doing this?
>
>Yup, dosshell does work on the palmtop. It's advantage over
>Software Carousel is that it is included in any Dos 5.0 install
>package.

Has anyone tried using TASKMGR from Caldera OpenDOS 7?

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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HP

     Seems they likewise weren't that impressed with their own first
     Windows-CE based offerings. Look for a Java-based palmtop to appear
     before Q2 98.


seen in
        http://www.mtnds.com/nb/OldJournal.htm

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I have a registered copy of the program

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the 200LX can use either 5 or 12 volt type I or II 2.0 flash cards

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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 00:00:12 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:02:18 -0800
>From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>

>1) I don't currently have a corrupt database, so I don't know what kinds
>of messages Garlic will put out (ie, will it describe which record was
>bad?  I don't think so)

If you want to see what Garlic says on a corrupt file, just copy a good
file & intentionally hose it with a hex editor. Might help to have the LX
programmer's guide for info on the format, but generally changing some
unprintable chars toward the end should mess it up pretty well, I'd think.

>If I had 2 databases, the original and the fixed,
>there isn't an EASY way to 'diff' them...and I shouldn't have to if the
>diagnostic program worked the way it'd make sense to work.

Re: diffs: You could use GDBDUMP on both and diff that, but I suspect if
Garlic doesn't like it, GDBDUMP won't either. Actually this gives me an
idea... Here's your logic:
 * copy database
 * run Garlic on copy
 * if copy == original, make a "good" GDBDUMP listing
 * else you can use the fixed database, and compare the last good GDBDUMP
listing with one from the Garlic'ed file, esp. noting any entries present
in the good list that are missing from the new list...

It's not that anything isn't working right, it's that you need to tie
together some apps -- "the UNIX way" ;-)

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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:12:50 -0800, Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM> =
wrote:

jo> However, any indication of excitement or glee over a
jo> product from a small company "becoming abandonware" really makes me =
feel
jo> uncomfortable.
jo>
jo> I'm not expecting many of you to agree with me, but I felt that I =
should at
jo> least state my views.

FWIW, i fully agree with you Joe.

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On 1998-02-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >Bas:
   >> Is it possible to use taglines in nettamer that are loger than 80
   >= caracters,
   >> ie. can you use multiple-line taglines?
   >Do you REALLY REALLY need to tell everyone your addresses,
   >emails,  phone numbers, birthdate, favorite food, favorite
   >saying, favorite city in the world, and dog's name EACH time?
   >I finish this with a tag line I will not use, but I think is
   >cute: (Stolen from someone at UCLA)
I didn't say I WOULD use it. I only asked if I COULD!


Bas Pruijn
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On 1998-02-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Larry Zimmerman wrote:
   >> I just noticed a device my father-in-law has on his stereo system
   >>and am  wondering if it could have application with the HPx00lx.
   >>The device is  called Leapfrog and it converts IR signals to
   >>fairly powerful RF so you  can control IR devices from "extreme"
   >>distances and without "eye-to-eye"  contact.
   >I contemplated trying this a few months ago, but those things aren't
   >so easy to find these days.  I think the Leapfrog has been
   >discontinued.
   >If you have a source for them, please share!
As far as I know, these devices only will work in one way. From the IR
sender to the IR receiver (TV, stereo, etc.) When you want to connect to
your computer (and I assume also your IR printer) you will need
bidirectional communication.

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Hi all,

I was sucesseful in installing Windows 3.0, Excel 2.1 and Word for
Windows 1.1 on my HP 200 8MB DS palmtop in a Software Carrosel area.
The problem is I have no mouse attached and would like to use one
mouse emulator. I tried HPMouse but coudn't make it work. Can anyone
help me on using HPMouse or other mouse keyboard emulator with
Windows 3.0. Help would be appreciated.

Regards

Antonio



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 Alas, I now have a psion 5, and while I haven't yet sold my hp200LX, I may
soon.  The HP is a great machine, and definatly the second best in my
opinion, but with the tiny keyboard (ok, I DO miss the number pad) Beep
sound, no backlight and no touch screen, it is getting old.  You'll have to
admit that if anyone put time or effort into a rediesign, it could be much
better. So I have both open on my desk, and:

HPLX VS. Psion 5

HPLX
    PRO:
PCMCIA slot
crisp screen
number pad
F keys (I miss those!)
Duribisity
battery life
DOS
Lotus 123
quicken
Much shareware
HP calc
    CON:
smallish screen
awful keyboard
no backlight
no touch screen
bad sound
chunky, calculator look
No GUI (I don't care, and many of you probably don't, but to sell machines,
they have to be pretty)
generally old technology that could be greatly improved by HP.
expensive and/or cumberson web and e-mail
low battery life with modeb


PSION 5:
    PRO:
big screen
backlight screen
touch screen
INCREADIBLE keyboard
great voice recorder
Great sound
new, yet not winCE
Great word prossecor
wonderful spell check
GUI (see above)
Really cool looking
Compact flash slot (CF is cheaper)
really cool stylus
braced screen
good database (haden't tried the searching, just did on a 500K DB, and it is
FAST, and well done)
great agenda, todo
sketch
Fast
built in programing language and free well writen program guide
LOTS of shareware
Great web/ email
battery powered external modem lasts hours
small ac addapter
8 megs
very easy to program
    CONS:
fragile
weak spreadsheet (compared to 123)
muddy screen
eats batteries (20-30 hours)
one set screen angle
external modem
no internal pcmcia



They are both about the same size/weight

the psion is great, and sure beats CE, and if you don't need DOS and 123 (i
miss 123 and DOS both) then it's the one for you, and even if you do use
them, check it out.  I don't want to start a flame war, just wanted to share
requested info.


Reed



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Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 7:54 PM
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->The CE palmtops (at least the new ones) have lots of
->processing power, as does the Psion 5 and several others. They just
->don't give the programmer acces to it; unless you want to do
->cross-platform development (I don't)

Doesn't that "lots of prcessing power" translate into speed in the Psion
5?  I have heard that it's speed searching the database and similar is
quite remarkable.  Is that so and does the Psion have as many shareware
products as the LX?

Jeff

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> The Amiga was a computer that came out around the time of the first IBM
> PC (or a little earlier?).

1984 or 1985

> It was much better than anything else.

And still is <g>.

> But perhaps because it was marketed more as a cool programmer's/game
> machine, rather than a business machine, it lost out...

It's single most significant problem is that it was NOT marketed.
Commodore Business Machines essentially ignored their own product and made
little or no effort to sell it. Early on, Microsoft Basic and WordPerfect
were written for the Amiga, but because the company made no effor to
support it, the important software houses either didn't write for it, or
quickly stopped supporting it.

Most interestingly, the "serious" PC users decried it as a "mere" games
machine (which it never was, although games running in full color,
relatively fast, on the Amiga in 1986 just blew away anything the PC or
Mac was capable of), and now the users AND advertisers proudly crow about
the fantastic games can be played on their peecee's.

> But you can imagine the loyal, fanatical following that it created, and
> their frustration when it lost out. There was also bankruptcy involved,

Commodore went bankrupt; the company that bought it (ESCOM, of Germany),
went bankrupt. It is now a subsidiary (ready for this?) of Gateway, and
Amigas are in production, OS upgrades are in the works, and we are once
again preparing to take over the world <vbg>!

> This may be ringing bells.

Ding-dong!

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Message text written by "Longden C. Loo"
>What brand is that and where can I get some of those? (In the US).

The brand is GP (Gold Peak). I bought these from a trade supplier in the =
UK
so cannot tell you where to get them in the US. They are not available fr=
om
retail outlets as far as I know, not here anyway. Also, the batteries com=
e
with tags welded on the terminals which need some work to remove them
before they will fit in the Palmtop.

>How would you compare these 1500mAh cells to other rechargeables in term=
s
>of endurance? I agree that the NiMH cells seem to hit a voltage plateau
>and stay there for quite awhile.

I found these cells to be a significant improvement over the 950mAH NiCad=
s
I was using before. The time between charges being around 6 hours with th=
e
NiCads and 14 hours with the NiMH cells. (I have a thirsty Simple
Technology Flash card installed at all times)

Laurence

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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:12:03 -0500
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Message text written by Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>That is true for charging from FLAT EMPTY! But batteries in
the Palmtop do not get down so low, they reach about 2.35V and
the palmtop begins to complain! I have no idea how much charge
is represented by that voltage. =


Also, the 100mAh current supplied is not necessarily 100%
efficient, and _effective_ rate is different. =

<

I agree that the batteries are not completely flat, but from experiments =
I
have done with various batteries I estimate that there is very little
charge left in the battery when the Palmtop complains (less than 5%). I
also agree that the 100mAh may not be 100% efficient, a little being lost=

in heating the battery, but I have measured 100mA going into the battery =
on
my Palmtop. =


The two points you raise tend to cancel each other out and I suggest that=
 a
general rule of thumb for minimum charging duration for cells that the
Palmtop has reported as flat is capacity (in mAh) divided by 100 i.e.
12hours for the 1200mAh batteries that Peniel Romanelli is using.

A small point you may find interesting Avi, I use ABC/LX V1.0 to control
the charging of my 1500mAh NiMH cells but have found that the charge
duration cannot be set to greater than 16 hours, which is only just enoug=
h
for me to guarantee fully charging my cells. It looks like battery
technology has caught up with ABC/LX, or has a later version been release=
d
which does not have such a limitation?

Laurence

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Thanks for the comparison info. I recommended my Dad look at a Psion 5
along with a Velo 500 and 360LX.

>HPLX VS. Psion 5
>
>PSION 5:
>    PRO:
>eats batteries (20-30 hours)

You mean on-time? How long do your LX batteries last?? My NiCads don't
usually last 10 hours by the Buddy timer...

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:54:55 +0100
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> I'm really not sure there is a legal grounding for "abandonware". The holder
> of a copyright retains that copyright even if he chooses not to distribute
> further copies.
True, there is no legal grounding. Some game compaines, Sierra for
instance, protect their games quite vigorously, even the old ones.


> I'm not expecting many of you to agree with me, but I felt that I should at
> least state my views.

Well, I agree with you. I think abandonware is a good idea as long as it
doesn't hurt the LX community and the companies that still support it.
Distributing LX-specific software obviously does (and SC is). Besides,
"normal" abandonware programs usually haven't been supported for years -
the company that sold SC has just recently gone out of business and copies
are still being sold (from the German distributor?)


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:08:39 +0100
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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Ian Butler wrote:

> At 07:19 PM 2/21/98 +1300, you wrote:
> >   >I remember back on the old list, there was a lot of talk about using
> >   >Dosshell as a cheap alternative to SC. Is anyone doing this?
> >
> >Yup, dosshell does work on the palmtop. It's advantage over
> >Software Carousel is that it is included in any Dos 5.0 install
> >package.
>
> Has anyone tried using TASKMGR from Caldera OpenDOS 7?

I seem to remember (from back when I was using Novell DOS 7) that it
required a lot of memory (a couple of megs at least). I never did like it,
it always crashed my Word Perfect 5.1.

BTW. They've changed the name (back) to Caldera DR DOS, in rememberance of
the original program.

Will TASKMGR work under MS-DOS? I always thought that the utilities
required Caldera DR DOS and refused to run under anything else...


Regards,

Laust

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At 12:29 PM 2/21/98, you wrote:
>Commodore went bankrupt; the company that bought it (ESCOM, of Germany),
>went bankrupt. It is now a subsidiary (ready for this?) of Gateway, and
>Amigas are in production, OS upgrades are in the works, and we are once
>again preparing to take over the world <vbg>!

Are you pondering what I'm pondering? Are you sure about Gateway's intentions to produce Amiga again? Because if you are, that might be a sign of one more company going down... ;-> Curse of Amiga is back again...

Nedim.

P.S.
Sorry, this has nothing to do with this mailing list, but I couldn't help it ;->

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mark beutler <mycroft_h@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> when i run wwwlx, i get as far as "sending password" then get    ***
> aborting!  timeout or user interrupt while waiting for ':'    message.
> modem hangs up, exits wwwlx.
>
> when i run postlx, system locks hard, will not reset via 3 finger
> salute, etc.  when last tried, i had to remove all batteries and start
> from scratch. (sigh)

The WWW/LX timeout problem is probably caused by an incorrect login
script.  Try dialing into your ISP with DataCom or some other terminal
program.  Respond to the login prompts manually, and write down exactly
what comes from the host machine.  This will get you as far as PPP
negotiations, then stop.  If the script is OK, then maybe the ISP is
temporarily down...  I had that problem most of today  8-(  WWW/LX also
hangs after "sending password" in this case.

Dunno about the system lockup with Post/LX.  Never had that problem.=

Maybe the executable file is corrupted.

-PR
------------
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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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I have a small serial to parallel converter that attaches to the end of the
serial cable on my 100lx. Powered by the printer and small!
I am sure these still exist and others may have more detailed information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Phenix,Bryan ÝPYR¨ <Bryan.Phenix@EC.GC.CA>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: cables for parallel printing


>Perhaps there is some way to print to a parallel printer from a serial
>port but I've never heard of it.  There are such beasts as serial
>printers ( that print from serial ports).
>
>One could add a parallel port using a PCMCIA card like Trans PC card,
>and then connect to a parallel printer.
>
>
>>----------
>>From:  Mikhail EpelbaumÝSMTP:mepelbaum@SYMPATICO.CA¨
>>Reply To:      HPLX Mailing List
>>Sent:  February 19, 1998 1:54 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>>Subject:       cables for parallel printing
>>
>>Can someone advise me about cables for direct parallel printing, from HP -
>>to a parallel printer. I have a need for such cable, but I remember seeing
>>messages about some cables being better than others, and some not working
>>up all.
>>
>>Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Mikhail
>>
>>
>>Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, General Forensic & Correctional Psychiatry
>>416-842-1446 or 800-263-1420 ext.635-274. Fax 905-628-4443
>>155 James St. South, # 167, Hamilton, Ontario, L8N 1H5, Canada
>>
>>This document was composed using voice recognition software.
>>Incorrectly recognized words may be present.
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interested. please mail list
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From: Ron Schuck <nite_owl@FRONTIERNET.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 12:11 PM
Subject: And the 4-Sale List Goes On . . .


>First of all, if this message is inappropriate for this list member
>group, I apologize in advance, and it will not happen again. Perhaps a
>message with the right group would be a great help. I only thought that
>I would offer the items first to a place that has helped me with my
>200LX.
>
>I have a number of items acquired over my computing years, that now I
>would like to sell or trade for other wants for my 200LX.  Rather then
>have a long list  ( and perhaps wrong place ) I would be glad to e-mail
>a list to those that may be interested.  All items are in excellent
>condition, and includes after market books, original software, etc. If
>it is OK to list here, then in the future I will, but for now my e-mail
>address is:
>nite_owl@frontiernet.net, on the same note I am looking for memory
>expansion cards, and a portable modem would also interest me.
>
>By the way, the items I am offering are also for the 200LX unit. ie
>DesqView manuals, MS Word 5.0 original software etc.
>
>Thanks again
>
>Ron
>
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Subject:      Re: Psion 5 comparison

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 00:34:05 +0000
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On 1997-02-22 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Alas, I now have a psion 5, and while I haven't yet sold my hp200LX,
   >I may soon.

Curses...another one turned over to the Dark Side!

Good luck on your choice.

As the quoted post was partly in answer to someone's question about the
availability of shareware compared to the LX, I wonder if you can tell me
the 'top ten' of Psion shareware that runs on the Psion-5 (your opinion).

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 00:34:12 +0000
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On 1998-02-21 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Commodore went bankrupt; the company that bought it (ESCOM, of
   >Germany), went bankrupt. It is now a subsidiary (ready for this?)
   >of Gateway, and Amigas are in production, OS upgrades are in the
   >works, and we are once again preparing to take over the world <vbg>!

LX users will stop you <g>!

OTOH, maybe you can convince them to make a palmtop version (Amigette?).

- Longden

PS - I wonder when the Osborne users will start coming out.

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Longden,

        Now!  I confess, I still have my Osborne.  It's not the machine an
Amiga is though.  I could start a small museum with the obsolete
machines I have in storage.

Colin

Longden Loo wrote:
>
> PS - I wonder when the Osborne users will start coming out.
>

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> You'll have to admit that if anyone put time or effort into a rediesign,
> it could be much better.
Alas, you are right.

But one extra point against the P5 (which is really non-availability of DOS)

> PSION 5:
>     CONS:
Only one (specific) programming language available on the unit.
        ie no C, C++, perl, awk, sed etc
        Please tell me if this has changed, and I'll go and buy one too!


--
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Was The Software Carousel modified for use with the HP200LX
or are you guys just using the one designed for a regular PC?


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At 08:24 PM 2/20/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:
>>
>> > Question:  What does the Software Carousel have that makes it so
special???
..............additional binary 1s and thus not only will the LX
>become heavier, it will also consume more power ;-)  (*)
>


 If anyone wants a copy, let me know.

>Laust
____________________________________________________
  subtle humor to invoke on us in North America - (your signature line)

I figure all those extra electrons associated with the 1s must add mass -
is that the jist?   I'd enjoy the article if you're able to forward....

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        I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux or other MS-DOS
alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's possible to
put a flavor of unix on it, the geek value would go up expotentionally... <gr>

        Chris Pimlott

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Chris Pimlott wrote:
>
>         I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux or other MS-DOS
> alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's possible to
> put a flavor of unix on it, the geek value would go up expotentionally... <gr>
>
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Well, linux or FreeBSD will not work. The reason is simple. The 200lx is
a 16 bit platform, but Linux and FreeBSD need a 32bit platform (i.e.
386sx or above). It may be posable (with a HUGE ramdisk) to run minix or
xenix, but this would of course just be a novelty, like runing windows
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:11:34 +1100
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>
> I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux or other MS-DOS
> alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's possible to
> put a flavor of unix on it,
no. but see ELKS (Embedded Linux Kernel <Something>)

> the geek value would go up expotentionally... <gr>
yes.

<speculation>
Wait for HP to bring out the palmtop they really want to, when their
secret agreement with MS to produce only WinCE terminates.
</speculation>

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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 19:12:37 -0800
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>        I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux or
other MS-DOS
>alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's possible to
>put a flavor of unix on it, the geek value would go up expotentionally...
<gr>

To get the flavor you could check out some of the files listed here under
"Unix 95 Collection Version 7". His goal is to port them all to 32 bit
apps, but there are still some 16 bit apps:

        http://www.itribe.net/virtunix/mystuff.html

I've also heard of a Unix-like command.com replacement (maybe like csh?),
but I haven't seen it (nor looked for it) in years.

-Chris

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On 1998-02-21 Phil_Seyer@ilovemusic.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Was The Software Carousel modified for use with the HP200LX
   >or are you guys just using the one designed for a regular PC?

It was modified for the LX. The vendor added support for the blue app
keys among other things.

- Longden

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><speculation>
>Wait for HP to bring out the palmtop they really want to, when their
>secret agreement with MS to produce only WinCE terminates.
></speculation>

Now that'd be cool if they tweaked the 200LX concept... Not palmtop
overkill like the Libretto, but keep the small size and battery life, etc.

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 22:45:44 -0600
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>
> I've also heard of a Unix-like command.com replacement (maybe like csh?),
> but I haven't seen it (nor looked for it) in years.
>

Chris:

Well, I've been using something similar for years on my desktop and
200LX. It's the C Programmers Toolkit by MIX software, the same folks
who sell the Power C compiler (also on my desktop/palmtop).

It doesn't replace command.com (I've often wondered why not - and also
why there aren't third party command.com command line interpreters).
But you have a large selection of UNIX-like commands. There is a sh
program you can run, but I have encountered some memory limitations
when runnin strictly within this sh program. The best is to just
run DOS command.com, and have all the UNIX commands available.

Check out their website, which I don't have handy. Search for MIX
software.

-Chris


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Subject:      Help useing 200LX IR port to set Pocket Watch B timer.
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Desire to use a 200LX to program Solutions Cubed Pocket Watch B
(www.solutions-cubed.com). Wish to scan printed sheet into spreadsheet
format, transfer file to 200LX, then individualy load numerious Pocket
Watch B's in the field.
I do not have much technical background. Requesting help from someone
with experience. Financial compensation probable. Necessary parts will
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Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> Message text written by Avi M. ÝD&A¨
> >That is true for charging from FLAT EMPTY! But batteries in
> the Palmtop do not get down so low, they reach about 2.35V and
> the palmtop begins to complain! I have no idea how much charge
> is represented by that voltage.
>

<snip>

> The two points you raise tend to cancel each other out and I suggest that a
> general rule of thumb for minimum charging duration for cells that the
> Palmtop has reported as flat is capacity (in mAh) divided by 100 i.e.
> 12hours for the 1200mAh batteries that Peniel Romanelli is using.
>
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--
Just wanted to point out that any battery's (regardless of type of
material used) internal resistance will increase as the cell voltage
rises.  This effect is significant and means that you will not get 100ma
per hr for 12hrs.  The general rule of thumb that is used where I work
is approx 1.25 times the "straight division" of charger current into
battery ah.  So, for a 1.2 ah batt at 100ma charge, the estimated charge
time would be 1200/100*1.25.  or approximately 15 hrs.  This should
bring the batt to 90+ percent of full charge.  To go to 100 percent
requires a fairly long (8+ hrs) trickle charge afterwards.  (since
internal resistance is high at this point, all one can do is trickle
charge anyway)   If anyone is really that interested, I can give them
factory info from the data sheets about this.  Just email me direct and
I'll dig this out of my work files and send it to you. (when I get time)
_______________________________________________
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Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> Message text written by Avi M. ÝD&A¨
> >That is true for charging from FLAT EMPTY! But batteries in
> the Palmtop do not get down so low, they reach about 2.35V and
> the palmtop begins to complain! I have no idea how much charge
> is represented by that voltage.
>

<snip>

> The two points you raise tend to cancel each other out and I suggest that a
> general rule of thumb for minimum charging duration for cells that the
> Palmtop has reported as flat is capacity (in mAh) divided by 100 i.e.
> 12hours for the 1200mAh batteries that Peniel Romanelli is using.
>
> Laurence
>
--
Just wanted to point out that any battery's (regardless of type of
material used) internal resistance will increase as the cell voltage
rises.  This effect is significant and means that you will not get 100ma
per hr for 12hrs.  The general rule of thumb that is used where I work
is approx 1.25 times the "straight division" of charger current into
battery ah.  So, for a 1.2 ah batt at 100ma charge, the estimated charge
time would be 1200/100*1.25.  or approximately 15 hrs.  This should
bring the batt to 90+ percent of full charge.  To go to 100 percent
requires a fairly long (8+ hrs) trickle charge afterwards.  (since
internal resistance is high at this point, all one can do is trickle
charge anyway)   If anyone is really that interested, I can give them
factory info from the data sheets about this.  Just email me direct and
I'll dig this out of my work files and send it to you. (when I get time)
_______________________________________________
mark beutler
mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
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sorry about the duplicate post.
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:05:39 +1100
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Since we are keeping an eye on the competition, I was just reading about
a die-hard Psion 5 user who abandoned it for a HC-4500. The following
Fall Comdex97 excerpt is from:
        http://www.morochove.com/watch/cw/ff71127.htm
which also has a nice pic.


" The knockout Mobilon has everything I can imagine in a palmtop computer and
more. The beautiful 6.5-inch 640x240 colour display is the centrepiece of this
16 MB unit. There's also a voice recorder that allows you to record and
playback voice memos. It comes with a built-in 33.6/9.6 Kbps data/fax modem.

The icing on the cake is the optional digital camera that slips into the PC
Card slot. The camera records 16.7 million colours at 640x480 resolution and
comes with a 4X zoom (2X optical and 2X digital).

The handheld PC also has all of the organizer and other applications that come
in Windows CE 2.0, which now includes Pocket PowerPoint for presentations. The
Sharp Mobilon HC-4500 will be available in Canada in January, priced at $1,599
with the camera and $1,299 without. "

Probably eats batteries, though.

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 and build your wings on the way down."         -Kobi Yamada

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> It doesn't replace command.com (I've often wondered why not - and also
yes it is.

> why there aren't third party command.com command line interpreters).
what about 4dos ?
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Al wrote:
>
> > It doesn't replace command.com (I've often wondered why not - and also
> yes it is.
>
> > why there aren't third party command.com command line interpreters).


> what about 4dos ?
> Al
> Wyn@alphalink.com.au

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I agree.  4dos does a great job.  even a shareware version available.
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On 1998-02-20 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Question:  What does the Software Carousel have that makes it so
   >special???
   >Cathy

It let's you have multiple programs open in separate work areas. It's
useful if, let's say, your typing somehting in word perfect and have to
look up a phone number. With SC you can switch to another work area and
look up the number without having to close wp. It also triggers when
appointment alarms go off and let's you use the blue keys from another
work area.

The one thing it doesn't do is supply a clipboard for cut-n-paste
between work areas.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

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I don't think anyone can seriously consider it abandonware. The
abandonware programs are all 5+ years old. I think we'll need to wait
until 2003 to start passin' it around. If we do it today, it's illegal!

On 1998-02-20 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I'm really not sure there is a legal grounding for "abandonware".
   >The holder of a copyright retains that copyright even if he chooses
   >not to distribute further copies.
   >Now (speaking for myself) I don't expect Microsoft to nail anyone
   >for putting Windows 1.03 on a web site - it's busy enough just
   >trying to stop pirating of products it still sells (or hasn't even
   >released yet, like Windows 98 and NT 5!). However, any indication
   >of excitement or glee over a product from a small company "becoming
   >abandonware" really makes me feel uncomfortable. (Al, forgive me if
   >I misread the emotional content of your message.) It's hard enough
   >to make money in niche software markets without having to compete
   >with "abandonware" from newly failed businesses.
   >I'm not expecting many of you to agree with me, but I felt that I
   >should at least state my views.
   >- Joe
   >-----Original Message-----
   >Sent:   Friday, February 20, 1998 8:03 AM
   >Is Carousel will be ABANDONWARE ????
   >If yes, can someone sendme a copy?
   >best regard
   >in another way, it's not so good if they stop to upgrade it.
   >Al
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Repost from comp.sys.palmtops:

From:
        ali-manson@psion.com (Alasdair Manson)

               Sat 20:12

 Subject:
        Re: ÝPSION 5, WIN CE¨ programming languages?




On 22 Feb 1998 02:59:51 GMT, bren@fangorn.cs.monash.edu.au (Brendan
Macmillan) wrote:

>Are other languages available for the Psion 5,
>that can be programmed on-the-unit,
>(apart from the built-in OPL)?  Such as C, C++, perl, awk, sed etc

The EPOC32 OS can be programmed in OPL and C++ currently, You can read
about development on Psion Software's website at:

        http://www.software.psion.com/EPOCWorld/

        ÝCQ: changed to http://www.ew.software.psion.com/¨

Psion Software is also a Java licensee and a Java environment will
also soon be available for the EPOC32 platform.

regards

Alasdair
A Psion Software employee in a personal capacity

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On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:

> I don't think anyone can seriously consider it abandonware. The
> abandonware programs are all 5+ years old. I think we'll need to wait
> until 2003 to start passin' it around. If we do it today, it's illegal!

If we do it in 2003 it is also illegal. Abandonware doesn't really exist
in any legal sense, copyrights last a lot longer than five years.


Regards,

Laust

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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Chris Quartetti wrote:

>
> I've also heard of a Unix-like command.com replacement (maybe like csh?),
> but I haven't seen it (nor looked for it) in years.

There is a very good Korn Shell implementation availiable from Garbo
(ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/unix/ms_sh23b.zip)

It is based on the Minix ksh and does pretty much anything you'd expect it
to. I prefer 4DOS, though, since it is slightly faster and has better
filename completion. They'll both require a minimum of about 400kb to
comfortably.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:55:39 +0100
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On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> >
> > I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux or other MS-DOS
> > alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's possible to
> > put a flavor of unix on it,
> no. but see ELKS (Embedded Linux Kernel <Something>)

The last time I checked, ELKS was very much work in progress and couldn't
be used for any practical purposes - much the same as the first versions
of Linux. Minix is probably the best bet for a proper Unix on the LX. The
next best thing is lots of Unix commands and an improved cli. I have
several different Unix commands on my palmtop and couldn't live without
them.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 18:42:11 +0000
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I've been using this for a few weeks now and find it very good. I still
use the HP200LX appointments function though.

I'm interested in what various information you use it to store. In other
words, how have you all made it work for you? Also I'd welcome any tips
and tricks you've come up with. I'd be happy to share and compare ideas
with anyone.

Secondly, how do you run SWAPIS? I can't get it to work at all.

Finally, I load IS from the system manager with the command

c:\IS\IS.EXE|300

I then press the Alt + J combination to activate the programme. There is
just enough memory to run IS and the appointments function with 10k
memory left. To get back to IS, I use the Ctrl + 1-2-3 combination to
hot key back into it.

However, when IS first loads, why do I get the IS screen and the error
message

"Memory allocation error
 Cannot start COMMAND.exiting

 Press any key to exit to DOS"?

If I hit Alt + J at this point, it loads with no problems so why does it
want to give me this error message?

Thanks


Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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In a message dated 98-02-19 20:52:36 EST, you write:

<<  it conveys  zero info. (Probably my posts convey as much :) ...) >>

ZERO!??? C'mon Avi, give yourself at least a 10% info to posting ratio...Don't
be so hard on yourself. That's for us to do!

Alex

(Sorry Avi, I couldn't resist)

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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 07:01:23 -0600
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> I've also heard of a Unix-like command.com replacement (maybe like csh?),
> but I haven't seen it (nor looked for it) in years.
>

Chris:

I forgot to mention the name of the collection of UNIX-like programs
I mentioned from MIX - they're called collectively UXDOS. One reply
mentioned filename completion. I use a program called cmdedit by
PC Magazine tools. You can find this in the SIMTEL MSDOS collection,
I'm pretty sure. It also does command recalls, and a number of other
usful things. But I just use it for it's filename completion
capability - a very helpful thing on the 200LX.

BTW, any of you desktop NT users, NT has a hidden filename completion
switch in the registry that one can enable. Just open the registry,
go to Something/Software/Microsoft/Command (I forget the first name,
but there's only one that has Command) and modify the CompletionChar
entry to be the ASCII character to use, typically TAB=9.

-Chris Lott

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Subject:      Re: Mounting a JAM disk image in DOS 7

 > Has anybody been able to successfully mount a JAM disk image under
 > DOS 7/Windows 95?

I would also very much like to see how to achieve this. I found JAM to have a
similar compression ratio to Stacker 4.0. It has the advantage over stacker
to alow access at the same time to the compressed F: drive and the
uncompressed portion on the A: drive for time critical applications.

I tried rebooting WIN95 with "boot with previous DOS version" but it crashed
my Laptop. If somebody can give a clue on how to proceed this would be much
appreciated.

Regards,

 \/
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Subject:      Re: Serial Port Question

The feature by with the HP200lx awaked when it senses something on the serial
port makes it a very nice and samll battery powered FAX receiver.
You have to plug your external modem in the phone line and then the modem to the
HP200LX via the serial port. You run a fax receiver software (BGFAX or WINFAX
DOS or any other I suppose) and let the HP go to sleep after 3 minutes.
When a fax comes in, the modem wakes the HP which can then receive the FAX
and go back to sleep all unattended.

Regards,

 \/
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Subject:      HP200LX screen fainting

Hi,

I have purchased a second hand HP200LX-2MB. After a few months the screen
has suddenly faded to an extent that it becomes very difficult to distinguish
the text from the background.

This phenomenon is usual when the a HP is charging and that the temperature
rises but at room temperature with both my LX's on batteries, the second HP
has a constant faded screen. ON-+ does not help.

I have rebooted and taken out all batteries with no improvement.

The only thing which worked was to put it in the freezer for 10 minutes, then
the screen was ledgible again.

Could anyone suggest a fix other than to relocate in Alaska.

Thanks and regards,

 \/
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:53:40 +0300
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Hello All!

I'm trying to use PAL, and I have one question. I'd like to write
right-justifyed text to screen using WriteText(), so I need to know the
length (in pixels) of the text string, that is to be printed. But I can not
find the function in
PAL to calculate this string length. TextOut() returns this length, but I
have to know the length of the string to call it - to calculate output
position. Any suggests?

Notice: not strlen(), but length (in pixels) of the string written with the
specified font.

Thanks for your help.

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
igg@sbcorp.ru

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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 08:09:49 PST
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel

>From:    Phil Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
>Was The Software Carousel modified for use with the HP200LX
>or are you guys just using the one designed for a regular PC?

First there was SC for regular DOS computers.  Later a HPLX specific
version was created that addressed the uniqueness of the HPLX.

Russ

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Subject:      NT filename completion ÝRE: Alternative OS's on HP 200LX¨
Comments: cc: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

> BTW, any of you desktop NT users, NT has a hidden filename completion
> switch in the registry that one can enable. Just open the registry,
> go to Something/Software/Microsoft/Command (I forget the first name,
> but there's only one that has Command) and modify the CompletionChar
> entry to be the ASCII character to use, typically TAB=9.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor
CompletionChar = REG_DWORD 0x00000009

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HPLX VS. Psion 5

 HPLX
    PRO:
 PCMCIA slot
 crisp screen
 number pad
 F keys (I miss those!)
 Duribisity
 battery life
 DOS
 Lotus 123
 quicken
 Much shareware
 HP calc

    CON:
 smallish screen
 awful keyboard
 no backlight
 no touch screen
 bad sound
 chunky, calculator look
 No GUI (I don't care, and many of you probably don't, but to sell
        machines, they have to be pretty)
 generally old technology that could be greatly improved by HP.
 expensive and/or cumberson web and e-mail
 low battery life with modeb

Interesting.

Without exception (presuming "duribisity" is actually durability), all of
the "PRO" items are important to me, and without exception, all of the
"CON" items are either irrelevant for me, or are judgment calls that are
untrue for me (the keyboard is not awful; I prefer it to most of the
larger ones that I have seen)(the web and e-mail software is neither
expensive not cumbersome (although it DOES cost money! You Get What You
Pay For!)).

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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:11:58 -0500, you wrote:

I can get **4** GP NiMH 1300mah 1.2 volt cells locally for $20.00
canadian excluding GST tax...

The place is called Battery One-Stop @ 403-474-3415

This is not an ad, I don't work for them but wanted to enlighten the
user base...

>Message text written by "Longden C. Loo"
>>What brand is that and where can I get some of those? (In the US).
>
>The brand is GP (Gold Peak). I bought these from a trade supplier in the=
 UK
>so cannot tell you where to get them in the US. They are not available =
from
>retail outlets as far as I know, not here anyway. Also, the batteries =
come
>with tags welded on the terminals which need some work to remove them
>before they will fit in the Palmtop.
>
>>How would you compare these 1500mAh cells to other rechargeables in =
terms
>>of endurance? I agree that the NiMH cells seem to hit a voltage plateau
>>and stay there for quite awhile.
>
>I found these cells to be a significant improvement over the 950mAH =
NiCads
>I was using before. The time between charges being around 6 hours with =
the
>NiCads and 14 hours with the NiMH cells. (I have a thirsty Simple
>Technology Flash card installed at all times)
>
>Laurence
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:06:39 -0500
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At 17:53 2/22/98 +0300, you wrote:
>Hello All!
>
>I'm trying to use PAL, and I have one question. I'd like to write
>right-justifyed text to screen using WriteText(), so I need to know the
>length (in pixels) of the text string, that is to be printed. But I can not
>find the function in
>PAL to calculate this string length. TextOut() returns this length, but I
>have to know the length of the string to call it - to calculate output
>position. Any suggests?
>
>Notice: not strlen(), but length (in pixels) of the string written with the
>specified font.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
>igg@sbcorp.ru


Igor,
Look up TextExt in the PAL html helpfile.

NAME
      TextExt

DESCRIPTION

     Returns the length (in pixels) of the string s on the display, if
     a given font would be used to display it. The font (specified by
     an integer id) can be a proportional font as loaded by LoadFont, or a
     built-in one.

SYNOPSIS

      #include "pal.h"
      int TextExt(int FntId, char *s);

INPUTS
      FntId  - a font id - either one of the constants SMALL_FONT,
               MEDIUM_FONT, LARGE_FONT (for built-in fonts), or an integer
               returned by LoadFont.
      s      - the string that you want to compute the length of.

RETURN VALUE
      Returns the length of the string (in pixels), or 0 on error.

NOTE
      Note that TextExt is not a function, but a pointer to a function,
      also see the general remarks at the start of this modules
      description. (Under 'Unified font routines')

SAMPLE
      int PosX;
      int Len;
      char *Welcome = "Hello PAL !;

      Len = TextExt(LARGE_FONT, Welcome); /* get length of string */
      PosX = (MAX_X - Len)/2; /* center string horizontally */
      TextOut(PosX, 10, TXT_RULE, LARGE_FONT, Welcome); /* display it */


Hope this helps,
Owen Samuelson
http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:41:46 EST
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Subject:      Re: Info Select on the HP200LX
Comments: To: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>

Text of message from pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK, 21 Feb 1998, 01:42 PM
> I've been using this for a few weeks now and find it very good. I still
> use the HP200LX appointments function though.
>
> I'm interested in what various information you use it to store. In other
> words, how have you all made it work for you? Also I'd welcome any tips
> and tricks you've come up with. I'd be happy to share and compare ideas
> with anyone.
>
> Secondly, how do you run SWAPIS? I can't get it to work at all.
>
> Finally, I load IS from the system manager with the command
>
> c:\IS\IS.EXE|300
>
> I then press the Alt + J combination to activate the programme. There is
> just enough memory to run IS and the appointments function with 10k
> memory left. To get back to IS, I use the Ctrl + 1-2-3 combination to
> hot key back into it.
>
> However, when IS first loads, why do I get the IS screen and the error
> message
>
> "Memory allocation error
>  Cannot start COMMAND.exiting
>
>  Press any key to exit to DOS"?
>
> If I hit Alt + J at this point, it loads with no problems so why does it
> want to give me this error message?

I don't know exactly why you get the error message. I like to run the
program keeping it out of memory ("IS.EXE N|300") which keeps memory free
for me.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:12:26 +0300
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Hello!

>DESCRIPTION
>     Returns the length (in pixels) of the string s on the display, if
>     a given font would be used to display it. The font (specified by

Thank you, exactly what I need!

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
igg@sbcorp.ru

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On 1998-02-22 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >On 1998-02-21 Phil_Seyer@ilovemusic.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.
   >net
   >>Was The Software Carousel modified for use with the HP200LX
   >>or are you guys just using the one designed for a regular PC?
   >It was modified for the LX. The vendor added support for the blue
   >app keys among other things.
   >- Longden
Could you tell me: will the PC version of SC work or willyou need the 200lx
version?

Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn            mailto:pruijn@usa.net

The nice thing about standards is that there are many to choose from

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Subject:      Dr. Seltzman restores lost psyches! (re: C:\_dat\setup.env)
Comments: cc: wth@wthsun.nlm.nih.gov

I have been annoyed that a file backup and restore does not fully
restore my 200lx configuration.  I have not seen this discussed,
though I may have missed it.

In honor of the Prisoner episode in which Dr. Seltzman transfers mind
and psyche between people*, here is the "Seltzman Procedure" to fully
clone your 200lx.

After you first fire up the 200lx, these hidden and read only files are
created and updated in C:_DAT (to see them, do attrib /s):

      HR     ALARM.Q       C:\_DAT\ALARM.Q
       R     SETUP.ENV     C:\_DAT\SETUP.ENV
       R     CCMAIL.ENV    C:\_DAT\CCMAIL.ENV

H attribute files won't be copied with normal xcopy backup.  Fortunately
the ALARM.Q file is created and updated automatically. I don't care about
CCMAIL.ENV, but you might. SETUP.ENV is what we all need.

R (read only) files will be backed up e.g. by
  XCOPY C:\ <backup drive:<backup's root directory>
but R files cannot be overwritten on the 200lx when you restore.  So
to restore SETUP.ENV and the original personality:
-on the target 200lx:
  attrib -R C:\_dat\setup.env
-then restore c:\
  xcopy <backup drive:backup's root directory> /S <hp200lx c:\
-then for safety
  attrib +R C:\_dat\setup.env

As I recall Buddy will need the registration key reentered, but
everything else is fine. The same principles would apply to other
200lx drives with R or H files, but I haven't needed them.  Does
anyone have more or better info?

--Bill

*Patrick McGoohan: "DO NOT FORSAKE ME OH MY DARLING",  Episode 13  of
The Prisoner, 1967-8. "In order to find Professor Seltzman who has
gone into hiding after developing an electronic process for exchanging
the psyches of two people..."

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Hi,

        With all do respect, if people were more willing to pay for their
software instead of looking for a freebee, perhaps the small companies
like SunShine (Software Carousel) would be able to stay in business.  In
a limited market like the HP palmtops, companies that support the
platform deserve your support.  The small software developers don't have
the resourses or profit margins of the big boys.  You get out of life
what you put in.

Colin

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:48:45 -0500
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 Hmmm... A top ten.  Here goes

NOT in order

Vreader (yeah, the same type)
Message suite (free Email, fax and web from psion)
Backlight + (controls backlight, screen, does stick notes, joter pad, and
about everything else (buddyish)
S5 Bank (we don't get quicken)
PsiTris (tetris)
Frotz (infocom Z interpreter ZORK, hitchhikers, ECT)
Photo5 (Super drawing app/ photo editor)
ENCORE (DOOM, the actual doom levels and bad guys)
Z80 (spectrum emulator)
switchtask (task switching, macros)

These are MY top ten.  I don't know if all psion ppl would agree.  So much
is built in (great Word processor, database, programing language) some stuff
isn't needed.  Also, there is some great commercial sw.

check www.ady.net or http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/

Hope this helps
reed


-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Psion 5 comparison



Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 00:34:05 +0000
Message-ID: <19980222003403.AAA17893@Ý12.64.37.166¨>

On 1997-02-22 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Alas, I now have a psion 5, and while I haven't yet sold my hp200LX,
   >I may soon.

Curses...another one turned over to the Dark Side!

Good luck on your choice.

As the quoted post was partly in answer to someone's question about the
availability of shareware compared to the LX, I wonder if you can tell me
the 'top ten' of Psion shareware that runs on the Psion-5 (your opinion).

- Longden

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> PSION 5:
>     CONS:
Only one (specific) programming language available on the unit.
        ie no C, C++, perl, awk, sed etc
        Please tell me if this has changed, and I'll go and buy one too!

No, C is now on the psion (but EXPENSIVE) check at epoc world.  People are
working on others, and oval and a RAID are availble for the 3, and sometime
soon the 5
Reed

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Thanks for the assist with my wwwlx probs.  Have one more for anyone
that's interested.  wwwlx and postlx working fine, can receive email,
but cannot mail out a message.  I get an "invalid from address" and then
disconnects from POP.  Have looked through the manual(s) and must be
suffering from brain fade.  dont see a reference to "from address"
anywhere.  also get an "invalid email address" message when exiting the
postlx setup.  is definitely a real and valid address in the "email"
field, so dont know if this is problem or not.  still seems to receive
mail ok, so...
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These are available in Simtel:

4dos552.zip   B  531614  960423  4DOS command processor v5.52 4-17-96 rel.
csh4.zip      B   45231  890107  Unix csh -like shell v4.0, w/C source
cshel131.zip  B   36138  890326  C-Shell for MS-DOS, some features of UNIX
pschel35.zip  B   36693  861002  PC-Shell: UNIX System V-like csh for MS-DOS
sh1-111.zip   B   80565  871027  Unix-like DOS shell with novel features
tvdsh171.zip  B   20344  950220  Unix-like shell, DOSKEY/recall/mouse/cut-paste




Chris Pimlott wrote:

>         I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux or other MS-DOS
> alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's possible to
> put a flavor of unix on it, the geek value would go up expotentionally... <gr>
>
>         Chris Pimlott
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>>What brand is that and where can I get
>>some of those? (In the US).

>The brand is GP (Gold Peak). I bought these
>from a trade supplier in the UK
=2E..
>Also, the batteries come with tags welded =

>on the terminals which need some work =

>to remove them

In Canada, GP (Gold Peak) NiMH AA's are available
from the retail chain Battery Plus. 4 @ $Cdn 20
(approx $US 14). No modifications required.

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:36:30 +0000
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On 1998-02-22 pruijn@usa.net said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >>>Was The Software Carousel modified for use with the HP200LX
   >>>or are you guys just using the one designed for a regular PC?

   >>It was modified for the LX. The vendor added support for the blue
   >>app keys among other things.

   >Could you tell me: will the PC version of SC work or willyou need
   >the 200lx version?

I understand the PC version locked up alot, tho I've never tried to see
for myself.

- Longden

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> But I just use it for it's filename completion capability -

May I also suggest wced as a filename completion program. It completes
with respect to the current directory (TAB), the path (F1) or the
command line history (up arrow).

The keys are user-definable.

> a very helpful thing on the 200LX.
Indeed!!


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>  Hmmm... A top ten.  Here goes

> ENCORE (DOOM, the actual doom levels and bad guys)

I know this is unspeakably off-topic, but... is this full speed?


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>
> > PSION 5:
> >     CONS:
> Only one (specific) programming language available on the unit.
>         ie no C, C++, perl, awk, sed etc
>         Please tell me if this has changed, and I'll go and buy one too!
>
> No, C is now on the psion (but EXPENSIVE) check at epoc world.

I couldn't find this on the site - just the C++ SDK...
...do you have a direct URL handy?

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Hi Alasdair,

Thanks for your reply

> >that can be programmed on-the-unit,
> The EPOC32 OS can be programmed in OPL and C++ currently

My understanding was that C++ is only available in an SDK, not on-the-unit.
I couldn't find any reference to C++ on-the-unit on the EPOC page
you gave... is C++ now available on-the-unit?

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> > PSION 5:
> >     CONS:
> Only one (specific) programming language available on the unit.
>         ie no C, C++, perl, awk, sed etc
>         Please tell me if this has changed, and I'll go and buy one too!
>
> No, C is now on the psion (but EXPENSIVE) check at epoc world.

I had a look, but all I could see was the C++ SDK - which is not
available "on the unit". Do you have a direct URL handy to the C you
mention?

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Help, anyone?
My flashdisk gives an I/O error from cluster 6072 (according to Dog).  Is
there a way to verify the other areas of the card? I.e. I don't want the
hassle of sending it back if it's just one cluster that I can mark as 'bad'
with a utility of some kind...
I tried turning on DOS verify and copying a file repeatedly under different
names to fill up the card and got no errors...
Thanks in advance,
Jay Gates
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Jonathan Gates wrote:
>
> Help, anyone?
> My flashdisk gives an I/O error from cluster 6072 (according to Dog).  Is
> there a way to verify the other areas of the card? I.e. I don't want the
> hassle of sending it back if it's just one cluster that I can mark as 'bad'
> with a utility of some kind...
> I tried turning on DOS verify and copying a file repeatedly under different
> names to fill up the card and got no errors...

Uh oh.  I'd say if the card is still under warranty, you should send it back--
I don't think a flash card should be giving any bad clusters.

You could always try running FDISK100 and then reformatting the card.  What
brand is it?
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HP>Uh oh.  I'd say if the card is still under warranty, you should send it back
HP>I don't think a flash card should be giving any bad clusters.

   My older EXP 4mb, had a 4096 bad sectors, i told the same to the guy
at tech support, how can a flash card can have bad sectors ?!
He said it's possible...

No problems with my newer 8mb EXP, with my Simple Tech 40Mb, i'm getting
errors with the last sectors of the card, is a problem with the '39' mb
on the card, i think this is not real, i mean the error, but the palmtop
is reporting it somehow...

HP>You could always try running FDISK100 and then reformatting the card.  What
HP>brand is it?

   I've tried everything ! from a fdisk, format, Norton Utilities,
putting it on the special adaptor on the desktop, but nothing... :(


HP>--
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   >Help, anyone?
   >My flashdisk gives an I/O error from cluster 6072 (according to

Firstoff, run chkdsk /f to make sure your problem is not due to
cross-linking or lost clusters. Chkdsk will give a report of
clusters marked as bad.

When dos marks a cluster bad, it then takes it off the available
fat, so you can fill(?) the disk without seeing the error signals
again, as the reported faulty sector is not being addressed.

If you can get access to Norton tools, fire up disktool.exe and
select "Mark a cluster" You can mark the clusters reported as bad
good and then see if you can repeat the i/o error.

HTH.


David Lawrence
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It's a Simple Technologies 32Mb card, darn it... no complaints till now.
It is still well within warranty, and I may have to live out of my previous
8MB card for a few weeks I guess...  No Windows 3.0 for now (aw, shucks).

Seriously, is FDISK100 somewhere on my palmtop or do I get it from
somewhere (typing it at the DOS prompt, as well as FDISK, gave me  a 'bad
command' error)?  If you have it could you attach it back to me?
TIA
JG
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On 1998-02-22 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I have been annoyed that a file backup and restore does not fully
   >restore my 200lx configuration.  I have not seen this discussed,
   >though I may have missed it.

It's always a recurring topic.

   >In honor of the Prisoner episode in which Dr. Seltzman transfers
   >mind and psyche between people*, here is the "Seltzman Procedure"
   >to fully clone your 200lx.

<snipped much good stuff about backing up>

   >As I recall Buddy will need the registration key reentered, but
   >everything else is fine. The same principles would apply to other
   >200lx drives with R or H files, but I haven't needed them.  Does
   >anyone have more or better info?

I use a method mentioned by someone I believe, who was on the old listgroup
and I'm sure others use something like it. My backups use pkzip.
- I do nightly backups of my C drive to my flash card:
                pkzip -rp -whs -Jhr a:\bakup\cdrive c:\*.*
- I do weekly backups of my flash card to my desktop, using a batch file
        that copies the flash card using pkzip/intersvr:
                pkzip -rp -wh -Jhr baknew_a d:\*.* > baknew_a.log

When I need to restore something after a disaster (and I've seen my share
believe me), pkunzip is used to put everything back (besides connecting
the cable and starting a batch file, the entire process is automated).

When my LX was stolen one dark day...and insurance replaced the LX and the
flash card, I ran my restore using the backup and "reinflated" the new
LX with the gist of my old one (first restoring the flash card, then
restoring the C drive)....like seeing a dead friend reincarnated <g>.

This method doesn't work for everyone...but like yours, it can be a starting
point. The advantages for me: it's completely automated, and pkzip helps
to reduce the space required to hold the backup.

- Longden

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On 1998-02-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Seriously, is FDISK100 somewhere on my palmtop or do I get it from
   >somewhere (typing it at the DOS prompt, as well as FDISK, gave me
   >a 'bad command' error)?  If you have it could you attach it back to
   >me? TIA

It's in d:\bin\fdisk100.exe.

Check your command path statement in the autoexec.bat to see if d:\bin
is in there...otherwise you can just invoke it with the full pathname.

- Longden

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:45:52 +0000
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On 1998-02-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >No problems with my newer 8mb EXP, with my Simple Tech 40Mb, i'm
   >getting errors with the last sectors of the card, is a problem with
   >the '39' mb on the card, i think this is not real, i mean the error,
   >but the palmtop is reporting it somehow...

Exactly what program tells you that you're having a problem with the
last sectors of the card?

- Longden

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HP>   >No problems with my newer 8mb EXP, with my Simple Tech 40Mb, i'm
HP>   >getting errors with the last sectors of the card, is a problem with
HP>   >the '39' mb on the card, i think this is not real, i mean the error,
HP>   >but the palmtop is reporting it somehow...

HP>Exactly what program tells you that you're having a problem with the
HP>last sectors of the card?

HP>- Longden

HP>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

   NDD.EXE from Norton Utilities 5.0
   "Writing error on sector xxxx" mark as bad, skip, or cancel ?

   If i skip this, when i full that sector, with data, i'm getting
writing errors, with XTree, or command DOS

i've 32mb full, so...i have 8mb free yet! :)

Martin
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Some time ago I followed the Info Select discussion. Well, I don't know the
product but I have been using askSam for DOS instead, on my  (1 MB ram, 6 MB
card) 200lx, and I am more than satisfied. It's very powerful (full text
retrieval, Boolean searches, index search), versatile and easy to use.
Doesn't take up more than about 200k (when DIETed even less!). check out
their Website at www.asksam.com (there are more versions than just the DOS
one) and take a go at the DEMO version at ftp://asksam.com/asksam , the file
is called askdemo.exe (183k).

Enjoy

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I'm relatively new to GPS and have been enjoying trying out different
software to get a feel for the power of GPS.  I've recently purchased a
Garmin GPS III unit.  (The G3's internal map of the both North and South
America is amazing.)  I can connect the G3 to my trusty 486 PC and can
transfer waypoints, routes, etc., to and from the G3 without a problem. I
use programs (on my 486) like GARDOWND.EXE and G7TO.EXE without any problem.

But, and now here's my REAL problem. I can't get my HP200LX to connect to
the G3
and transfer waypoints, routes, etc.  I set the G3 to GARMIN/GARMIN
protocol, use the
same cables I use for the 486, AND NOTHING TRANSFERS!  The HP200LX just sits
there and I have to reboot the unit. By the way, this type of testing is
performed in DOS
with the Applications Manager software not running.

Using the very same cables and software (and setting the G3 to use the NMEA
protocol) I can
use the latest LXGPS13.ZIP software to see a moving map!  Now THAT is some
very COOL Software!

I'm stumped.  I can use my 486 to transfer waypoints, etc. But I can't seem
to get the HP200LX to do the same.  The LXGPS13.ZIP software works great
though.  Same software, same cables, same G3 etc.  It's probably something
so simple that I've just overlooked it.  Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks for all the help!  (In Advance)
Paul Stratton
Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com

Details:  Software:        LXGPS13.ZIP, G7TO.ZIP, and GARDOWND.ZIP
                                        All work fine on the 486. Both
GARMIN and NMEA protocols

                                        G7TO.ZIP, and GARDOWND.ZIP  do not
work on the HP200LX.
                                        (Results: Seems to not work only on
the GARMIN protocol.)

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Paul:

> But, and now here's my REAL problem. I can't get my HP200LX to
> connect to the G3 and transfer waypoints, routes, etc.  I set the G3
> to GARMIN/GARMIN protocol, use the same cables I use for the 486,
> AND NOTHING TRANSFERS!  The HP200LX just sits there and I have to
> reboot the unit. By the way, this type of testing is performed in
> DOS with the Applications Manager software not running.

Very strange. I, too, have the exact same setup. I tried the G7TO
program on my 200LX, and it worked the first time without a hitch. I
was amazed at how easy it was to get going. I haven't tried the other
program you mentioned - I don't remember if it's compatible with the
200LX or not. Back to G7TO... did you specify the correct COM port? I
believe you must place a -1 on the command line for COM1, -2 for
COM2, etc. It's in the help documentation. Type g7to -h I for help on
inputting data from the GPS III, and you should see an explanation.
BTW, I used the GARMIN protocol on the GPS III when running the g7to
program.

> I'm stumped.  I can use my 486 to transfer waypoints, etc. But I can't seem
> to get the HP200LX to do the same.  The LXGPS13.ZIP software works great
> though.  Same software, same cables, same G3 etc.  It's probably something
> so simple that I've just overlooked it.

Very odd indeed. Let us know how this progresses.  Let me know if
there are any tests I could do, since I have the exact same setup.

-Chris Lott

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Al:

> > It doesn't replace command.com (I've often wondered why not - and also
> yes it is.

No, the MIX product (collectively called UXDOS) doesn't replace
command.com. They specifically address this issue in the
documentation.

> > why there aren't third party command.com command line interpreters).
> what about 4dos ?

It may well do so. I'm not familiar with it. I thought the advantage
of having a separate separate commane line interpreter like
command.com was so that alternative CLIs could be easily written
without re-writing the OS. I would think that more such products
would be available and well advertised.  It may be that some of the
other csh-like programs that another reader posted recently from
the Simtel archives do function as a command.com replacement. I'll
have to look into these in my copious free time.  8-)

-Chris Lott


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David Lawrence wrote:
>
> Disadvantages: It is a little tricky to setup task switching, the
> video reverses (white on black) each time you swap, and the
> biggie is that Software Carousel is written for the LX and
> recognizes all the blue keys to allow instant(!) access to the
> built-in apps.
>

Do you have instruction for  setting up the video reverse for each swap?

I sure would be interested.


brenda

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Paul Stratton wrote:
>
> I'm relatively new to GPS and have been enjoying trying out different
> software to get a feel for the power of GPS.  I've recently purchased a
> Garmin GPS III unit.  (The G3's internal map of the both North and South
> America is amazing.)  I can connect the G3 to my trusty 486 PC and can
> transfer waypoints, routes, etc., to and from the G3 without a problem. I
> use programs (on my 486) like GARDOWND.EXE and G7TO.EXE without any problem.
>
> But, and now here's my REAL problem. I can't get my HP200LX to connect to
> the G3
> and transfer waypoints, routes, etc.  I set the G3 to GARMIN/GARMIN
> protocol, use the
> same cables I use for the 486, AND NOTHING TRANSFERS!  The HP200LX just sits
> there and I have to reboot the unit. By the way, this type of testing is
> performed in DOS
> with the Applications Manager software not running.

I guess you didn't fall for the null-modem that is needed: The Palmtop
and the Garmin cable are wired identical (DCE) - you need a null modem
to do this!

> Using the very same cables and software (and setting the G3 to use the NMEA
> protocol) I can
> use the latest LXGPS13.ZIP software to see a moving map!  Now THAT is some
> very COOL Software!

Ah. You probably have a null-modem...

Then: I had a similar problem: I guessed that gardown7 did some settings
in the COM hardware that causes it to hang. I got Gardown8 instead - it
works well.

I don't really remember where I got that, but I have the gardown8.zip
here. If you want it... drop me a line!

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CHOAM sprl, Sur les Fontaines 58, 4990 Lierneux, Belgium
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Chris Lott wrote:

> No, the MIX product (collectively called UXDOS)

Chris,

How does the Mix utilities compare with the freeware/shareware Unix
utilities offerings out there (of course you've tried them all in your
spare time)? How much disk space do they take up?

I've been using Mix Software's Power C compiler, and I like their product.

- Longden

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> > No, the MIX product (collectively called UXDOS)
>
> Chris,
>
> How does the Mix utilities compare with the freeware/shareware Unix
> utilities offerings out there (of course you've tried them all in your
> spare time)? How much disk space do they take up?
>
> I've been using Mix Software's Power C compiler, and I like their product.
>

Longden:

Well, I haven't tried many/any of these other offerings. I have
downloaded several programs to supplement UXDOS, such as awk, which,
nroff, to name a few. One time I did download a ksh shareware program
that I found. It was such a big thing, that I abandoned the idea of
porting it to my palmtop. I suppose I'll check into some of the other
offerings that were posted this weekend.

As for UXDOS, it has met my needs well over the past 4-5 years. There
are a few minor differences to "ordinary" UNIX commands. For example,
the grep program doesn't permit me to show +/-n lines from the
matching line. But for the most part, I don't notice these minor
issues. For your information, I did a ls >junk in the uxdos
directory, and imported it below. This should give you an idea of the
commands provided.  If the MIX website doesn't have any desriptive
literature, you can call them for a brochure, or I can FAX you an
copy of one I have lying around here somewhere.

Listing of UXDOS commands:

adduser       deluser       grep.exe      news.exe      test.exe
asktime       demo.unx      head.exe      od.exe        touch.exe
audit         demo1.unx     install.exe   passwd.exe    tr.exe
banner.exe    demo2.unx     junk          pr.exe        udate.exe
basename.exe  demo3.unx     junk.dat      pwcheck       ufind.exe
bin           df.exe        junk.loc      pwd.exe       uniq.exe
calendar      diff.exe      logdir.exe    read.me       utility1.pak
cat.exe       diffupdt.exe  login.exe     rm.exe        utility2.pak
ccl           dircmp        ls.exe        scripts.pak   uxdosbuf.com
checkdel.exe  dirname.exe   mail          sed.exe       uxdosint.com
chmod.exe     drwtsn32.log  mailout       setup.txt     wc.exe
chnguser      du.exe        makedisk      sh.exe        words
comm.exe      expr.exe      matchcmt      split.exe     words.bat
comment       firstcmd.bat  more.exe      sum.exe       yesno
cp.exe        getcmnts      mv.exe        tail.exe
cpio.exe      getopt.exe    mvdir.exe     tee.exe

-Chris Lott



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I am trying to get Nettamer up and running for the first time. Following
the directions, it appears I have everything configured properly. When I
attempt to connect, I get the "Dialing xxx-xxx-xxxx ..." message at the
bottom of the screen, but nothing happens. I never connect.

My equip. is as follows:
        HP 200LX 2mb, Motorola Power Cellular/Fax PC-Card modem, Nettamer
installed on a 40mb Flash card.

Just before dialing, power down and swap flash card for modem.

Do I have this set up properly? Can someone give me an alternative setup? I
tried putting Nettamer on my C:, but it is too large.

Any help would be appreciated.

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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Martin Sebastian wrote:

>
>    NDD.EXE from Norton Utilities 5.0
>    "Writing error on sector xxxx" mark as bad, skip, or cancel ?
>
>    If i skip this, when i full that sector, with data, i'm getting
> writing errors, with XTree, or command DOS
>
> i've 32mb full, so...i have 8mb free yet! :)
>


I know the LX runs DOS 5.0 and this was fixed, but it
seems like an odd coincidence that you're at the same
capacity as the volume limit of earlier versions of DOS.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:05:08 -0800
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Alex Arancio wrote:

> I am trying to get Nettamer up and running for the first time. Following
> the directions, it appears I have everything configured properly. When I
> attempt to connect, I get the "Dialing xxx-xxx-xxxx ..." message at the
> bottom of the screen, but nothing happens. I never connect.
>
> My equip. is as follows:
>         HP 200LX 2mb, Motorola Power Cellular/Fax PC-Card modem, Nettamer
> installed on a 40mb Flash card.
>
> Just before dialing, power down and swap flash card for modem.
>
> Do I have this set up properly? Can someone give me an alternative setup? I
> tried putting Nettamer on my C:, but it is too large.

What version of NT are you using?

I run NT 1.08pt on my 6mb 200LX, but also had it running on the 2mb unit
before the upgrade. OTOH, maybe the newer versions (they're at 1.10-1.11
now) are bigger...?

Could be that the dialling operation reads a login or config file from the
NT directory on the card you just swapped out.

The NT documentation used to mention the minimal set of files you need to
have access to for execution on a palmtop (since the author has a 200LX
also).

I have enough room now on my 6mb to have most of the NT stuff installed
(takes about 400k, with help files), but I THINK you just need (for email)
nettamer.exe and reader.exe and red.com (or your own text editor..for
replies) and a login script file for your ISP (used to be called something
like "service1.log").  Don't know for sure if that's still the case with
newer version.

Most other files are(were) created by NT as needed.

Don't feel badly if the installation instructions are difficult to
understand. In the pre-Post/LX days, it was a rite of passage to do a
successful NT installation. Back then, the author (David Colston) also had
more time and personally assisted many who emailed and asked for
help...don't know if he still does that now that he has a life (ie, he got
married <g>).

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:10:37 -0800
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Martin Sebastian wrote:
>
> >    NDD.EXE from Norton Utilities 5.0
> >    "Writing error on sector xxxx" mark as bad, skip, or cancel ?
> >
> >    If i skip this, when i full that sector, with data, i'm getting
> > writing errors, with XTree, or command DOS
> >
> > i've 32mb full, so...i have 8mb free yet! :)

Martin,

What's the model number of the card you're using? The one's they currently
sell are STI-ATAFL/40 and are warranted for 5 years. Any chance you can
take them up on the warranty?

- Longden

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Bonjour

my question is if there is a programm to syncronice Outlook to HP700LX
like for the Palmtop. Or maybe to syncronice between Lotus Organiser and
the HP700LX.

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Hi, whats the best Basic compiler for the 200LX ??

I've seen or heard about QBasic, First Basic and VB for DOS - which is
the best for a intermediate level programer wanting to write a text
adventure (few graphics) for the 200LX ?? Whats the best book on the
subject.

Thanks for your inputs,
Brian

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You need to check TurboBasic and PowerBasic. I personally think that these two are better that the ones you mention.

Also you need to check Infocom's Z language and interpreter for text based adventures.

Nedim.

At 12:16 PM 2/23/98 , you wrote:
>Hi, whats the best Basic compiler for the 200LX ??
>
>I've seen or heard about QBasic, First Basic and VB for DOS - which is
>the best for a intermediate level programer wanting to write a text
>adventure (few graphics) for the 200LX ?? Whats the best book on the
>subject.
>
>Thanks for your inputs,
>Brian

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> ENCORE (DOOM, the actual doom levels and bad guys)

>I know this is unspeakably off-topic, but... is this full speed?

No, Slow, but playable if you are patient, and very cool.

AND to the second question

>I couldn't find this on the site - just the C++ SDK...
....do you have a direct URL handy?

It is only a C++ sdk for desktop stuff.  Sorry,
Reed

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:42:38 +0100
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Nedim wrote:

> You need to check TurboBasic and PowerBasic. I personally think that
> these two are better that the ones you mention.

Actually, First Basic is Turbo Basic under a different name. Turbo Basic
was later renamed to Power Basic. First Basic is Power Basic v2.0
rereleased, current is 3.5. (Confused? :-)

You can get First Basic for free (trial, it is shareware) at SUPER or at
www.powerbasic.com

> Also you need to check Infocom's Z language and interpreter for text
> based adventures.
Ooh, I heard that the Z language should be a nightmare to program (very
"spagetti-ish"!)

Other basics:

Qbasic has the advantage of being free, but it is only an interpreter, not
a compiler like it older brother Quick Basic.

Unless you need the GUI functions of VB-DOS then I don't think it has any
advantages on the palmtop.

Cheers,

Laust

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>Qbasic has the advantage of being free, but it is only an interpreter, not
>a compiler like it older brother Quick Basic.

As I recall, it "compiles to memory" so it's better than a strict
interpeter. If this is the case, you should get execution time comparable
to a compiled version, once you've actually started running it.

Chris

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>Actually, First Basic is Turbo Basic under a different name. Turbo Basic
>was later renamed to Power Basic. First Basic is Power Basic v2.0
>rereleased, current is 3.5. (Confused? :-)

Uhm. I have version of TurboBasic when it was still Borland's product. I don't remember who made PowerBasic! Maybe Borland bought PowerBasic from somebody... And after that time my interest in Basic slowly degraded :-) Personally, I would always prefer Pascal instead of Basic, but that's just me!

>Ooh, I heard that the Z language should be a nightmare to program (very
>"spagetti-ish"!)

I can see how Z can be a nightmare, since it's suppose to resemble a machine language (Z machine!). But it has some "adventure game" features which can help people with reinventing the wheel.

Nedim.

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In message "Re: Software Carousel"
    on 98/02/20, Gene Johnson <krcaddis@THEGRID.NET> writes:
>At 08:24 PM 2/20/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>>On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
> If anyone wants a copy, let me know.
>

Please let me known how much it cost?

ken from japan

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I thought I might be stupid to think I was the only one collecting old
computers.  :)

Phil

>
>Longden,
>
>        Now!  I confess, I still have my Osborne.  It's not the machine an
>Amiga is though.  I could start a small museum with the obsolete
>machines I have in storage.
>
>Colin
>
>Longden Loo wrote:
>

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read the attached text, below the dotted line.

>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:04:31 -0600
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You did not mention if you had adjusted the screen contrast from the
system manager "Setup" application (F5 from the sys manager screen).
Other than that, I'm not sure what could be the solution.

Phil

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:02:42 +0100
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Nedim wrote:

> >Actually, First Basic is Turbo Basic under a different name. Turbo Basic
> >was later renamed to Power Basic. First Basic is Power Basic v2.0
> >rereleased, current is 3.5. (Confused? :-)
>

> Uhm. I have version of TurboBasic when it was still Borland's product. I
> don't remember who made PowerBasic! Maybe Borland bought PowerBasic from
> somebody... And after that time my interest in Basic slowly degraded :-)
> Personally, I would always prefer Pascal instead of Basic, but that's
> just me!

Actually it is the other way around. When Borland lost interest in Basic,
they sold Turbo Basic to the original programmer, who then started his own
company PowerBasic and is still selling the improved Turbo Basic today
(under the name Power Basic obviously).

Actually the newer versions of PB are very similar to Pascal; records and
case structures, etc. are all implemented. PB (v3.0 and higher) even allow
in-line assembler.


Regards,

Laust
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Chris Quartetti wrote:

> >Qbasic has the advantage of being free, but it is only an interpreter, not
> >a compiler like it older brother Quick Basic.
>
> As I recall, it "compiles to memory" so it's better than a strict
> interpeter. If this is the case, you should get execution time comparable
> to a compiled version, once you've actually started running it.

It might do some byte-code compiling, but it is still much slower than
Quick Basic.

Perhaps Microsoft made it slower on purpose before releasing it, so it
wouldn't compete with Quick Basic? :-)


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:15:27 +0100
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Hiya,

I wanted to try out Dosshell on the LX, but I coudln't find it on any of
my computers. It seems MS-DOS 6 removed it when I upgraded..

I know DOS 5 is availiable as "abandonware", but it is over a megabyte in
size and I only need/want Dosshell.

Would some kind soul please send me a copy (or give me a link)?


Regards,

Laust

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Price dictates quantity. Please price @1, 2, 4, 8 quantities.
Warranties?
Thanks:-)

Paul Stratton wrote:

> I'm relatively new to GPS and have been enjoying trying out different
> software to get a feel for the power of GPS.  I've recently purchased a
> Garmin GPS III unit.  (The G3's internal map of the both North and South
> America is amazing.)  I can connect the G3 to my trusty 486 PC and can
> transfer waypoints, routes, etc., to and from the G3 without a problem. I
> use programs (on my 486) like GARDOWND.EXE and G7TO.EXE without any problem.
>
> But, and now here's my REAL problem. I can't get my HP200LX to connect to
> the G3
> and transfer waypoints, routes, etc.  I set the G3 to GARMIN/GARMIN
> protocol, use the
> same cables I use for the 486, AND NOTHING TRANSFERS!  The HP200LX just sits
> there and I have to reboot the unit. By the way, this type of testing is
> performed in DOS
> with the Applications Manager software not running.
>
> Using the very same cables and software (and setting the G3 to use the NMEA
> protocol) I can
> use the latest LXGPS13.ZIP software to see a moving map!  Now THAT is some
> very COOL Software!
>
> I'm stumped.  I can use my 486 to transfer waypoints, etc. But I can't seem
> to get the HP200LX to do the same.  The LXGPS13.ZIP software works great
> though.  Same software, same cables, same G3 etc.  It's probably something
> so simple that I've just overlooked it.  Anybody have any ideas?
>
> Thanks for all the help!  (In Advance)
> Paul Stratton
> Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com
>
> Details:  Software:        LXGPS13.ZIP, G7TO.ZIP, and GARDOWND.ZIP
>                                         All work fine on the 486. Both
> GARMIN and NMEA protocols
>
>                                         G7TO.ZIP, and GARDOWND.ZIP  do not
> work on the HP200LX.
>                                         (Results: Seems to not work only on
> the GARMIN protocol.)
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Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:
> I thought I might be stupid to think I was the only one collecting old
> computers.  :)

I've run across other folks who are surprised to find that there are
other collectors out there.  So now that you know, some of us hang out
on the classiccmp@u.washington.edu list.  You could find out more at
http://haliotis.bothell.washington.edu/classiccmp/index.html except
that it seems to be down right now, so instead I will point you to
http://www.heydon.org/kevan/classiccmp/1997-07/msg00027.html which
includes subscription instructions.

So, what are y'all using to keep track of your collections?  I started
out with a couple of hundred loose S-100 cards in a 1-2-3 spreadsheet
on a 95LX, and have made it to a couple of thousand small items in a
.GDB database on a 200LX.  And I'd guess that I'm maybe 1/5 done with
taking inventory.

But I know I'm going to run up against limits of the LX database
software, and so I'm looking at installing dbXL (a dBase III
mostly-compatible from the mid-late '80s) on the LX and moving stuff
over to that.  I'm thinking this is a good thing to do in the long
run: I'd like to split the one database I have now into several sets
with relations between sets, and I'd also like to be able to be able
to have multiple pre-computed indexes into those sets for fast queries
on different fields.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:47:05 -0800
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Intellisynch by Puma Technologies should do the job nicely.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Kocher <vkocher@WINET.CH>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 23 February, 1998 10:48
Subject: Outlook to HP


>Bonjour
>
>my question is if there is a programm to syncronice Outlook to HP700LX
>like for the Palmtop. Or maybe to syncronice between Lotus Organiser and
>the HP700LX.
>
>--
>gruss Vincent
>http://www.wombat.ch
>************************************************
>Micro$oft isn't the answer, Micro$oft is the question. No is the answer.
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:44:04 +1300
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Subject:      Re: Wanted: Dosshell

   >Hiya,
   >I wanted to try out Dosshell on the LX, but I coudln't find it on
   >any of my computers. It seems MS-DOS 6 removed it when I upgraded..
   >I know DOS 5 is availiable as "abandonware", but it is over a
   >megabyte in size and I only need/want Dosshell.
   >Would some kind soul please send me a copy (or give me a link)?
   >Regards,
   >Laust

If you have dos 6 installs, you should have the "Supplimental"
disk, if not, ask your local MS service providor for it.

It has dosshell and all the other stuff "left-out" from 5.0 like
Edlin, gorilla Basic etc.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:57:25 -0800
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David Cripps wrote:
>
> I've tried the Xircom, 3Com and Silicom nework cards in my HP200 and the
> ONLY one which works is the Silicom.
>
> The others report they are working, diagnostics work, even report the MAC
> address of the card etc. But do not Transmit! This is due to the limited
> current available in the HP's PCMCIA slot (I think about 100mA).
>
> The Silicom works fine, I've loaded up a TCP/IP stack from PC/TCP, for
> Telnet, Ping, FTP, BootP, etc, also had IPX running (using NetX) login
> into a Novell 3.12 server, also the shareware Ethload and the commercial
> LanWatch products monitoring, capturing and decoding Ethernet packets.
> (Not bad for a Palm Top!!!).
>
> Had a few problems with the RJ45 connector (the cable from the PCMCIA card
> to the RJ45 is very fine and doesn't crimp well, out of three cards, I had
> two failures!)
>
> If you want to connect to a local 10BaseT Ethernet Network, the only product
> that I've found to work is the Silicom.
>
> (and no I've nothing to do with Silicom, only a sad geek with an interest
> in Gadgets - and thats from my wife!).
>
> Dave Cripps

So do you know of a US vendor for this?  I found an e-mail address for
Silicom, but have gotten no relpy to my questions.

David

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:07:10 -0800
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David R. Birch wrote:
>
> So do you know of a US vendor for this?  I found an e-mail address for
> Silicom, but have gotten no relpy to my questions.

Precision Guesswork sells them for $150.  http://www.guesswork.com

But bear in mind that the Silicom card DOES NOT work with a double-speed
palmtop.  Times2 Tech is working on this problem, but it's hampered by the fact
that Silicom doesn't seem to care.

The Accton 2212 and 2216 will work with either a single-speed or a double-speed
palmtop, but I've yet to find software that will allow you to log into a
Netware server.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:21:55 -0800
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My HP200LX has 6meg, but I haven't seen a need for the speed upgrade
yet.
The PCMCIA needs to work in the HP and a Fujitsu Lifebook 520 notebook
for connection through a Bay 800 hub to a server running Windoze NT 4.0.
Do you see any problems with this?

David

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:29:28 EST
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Subject:      Re: Network PCMCIA cards - Rec Silicom

> But bear in mind that the Silicom card DOES NOT work with a double-speed
> palmtop.  Times2 Tech is working on this problem, but it's hampered by the fact
> that Silicom doesn't seem to care.
>
> The Accton 2212 and 2216 will work with either a single-speed or a double-speed
> palmtop, but I've yet to find software that will allow you to log into a
> Netware server.
> --

What drivers come with the Accton cards and where are they available? There
are shims to allow netware connections over packet drivers, of course they
may not work in a 4.11 environment with NDS.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:41:39 -0800
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>
> Mack Baggette deserves public praise.  I invite the list to consider him
> for their future palmtop needs.  He's a dang nice guy.

Sooooooooo...

How do I contact Mac's company?
--
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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:46:20 -0800
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Phil Seyer wrote:
>
> Sooooooooo...
>
> How do I contact Mac's company?

Times2 Tech's web site is at http://www.times2tech.com
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Maxfind (maxfnd33.zip on Simtel) shows +/- lines, allowing
and/or/not of up to 15 strings, fuzzy spelling, ..........

Chris Lott wrote:
As for UXDOS, it has met my needs well over the past 4-5 years. There
are a few minor differences to "ordinary" UNIX commands. For example,
the grep program doesn't permit me to show +/-n lines from the matching line.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:15:20 -0800
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I would like to thank Avi Meshar of D&A Software.  He has generously awarded
the winners in the contest at my site copies of TimeTracker/LX, and the first
prize winner additionally received a copy of WWW/LX Plus (WWW/LX with Post/LX).

Additionally, we will soon be starting more contests, giving away upgrades from
Times2 Tech.  For each contest, the grand prize winner will receive a copy of
WWW/LX Plus and the runners up will receive copies of TimeTracker/LX.  So stay
tuned!
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:30:16 -0500
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If any of you have a broken 200LX with an intact screen, which you would be
willing to give to a poor, helpless, but more importantly broke, high-school
student, I'd appreciate it.

MACK BAGGETTE IS THE NICEST PERSON LIVING ON THIS PARTICULAR PLANET.

I'd just like to stick that in because it's true.  Instead of getting a
4M upgrade for my nonexistant palmtop, Mack has pieced together a 200LX
for me from his spare parts, and all he needs is a screen to finish the
device.  If you could help me on this one, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:41:34 -0800
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You wrote:
>hmmmmm....

><speculation>
>Wait for HP to bring out the palmtop they really want to, when their
>secret agreement with MS to produce only WinCE terminates.
></speculation>
>
>--
>Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
>"Sometimes you just have to take the leap,
> and build your wings on the way down."         -Kobi Yamada

Brendan,

hmmmm... was a balloon message if I ever saw one (float it up and see if the
wind catches it) but I'm stunned I haven't seen a reply.

Is there a release note, or just rumor, vaporware or just conjecture? These
two messages have a coquettish "Don't ask me to tell you the secret" tone.

I could be wrong,
Bill Buzan

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Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
>  Alas, I now have a psion 5, and while I haven't yet sold my hp200LX, I may
> soon.  The HP is a great machine, and definatly the second best in my
> opinion, but with the tiny keyboard (ok, I DO miss the number pad)

Can you use an external keyboard that almost as good as a desktop
keyboard with the psion (like the Newton?)

Can you run standard DOS programs (like ones to help
you learn music, Japanese, analyze personality, create new ideas)?.
Are there 3000 shareware programs to choose from?

Can you run Idea Generator Plus, which can help you get along
better with your girl-friend, improve your marketing strategy,
and figure out how to get your tax situation in order?

Can you write, compile, and run programs using PROLOG (a
5th generation language for artifical intelligence?)

You can with an HP200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:41:15 -0500
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>
>Date:    Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:07:06 -0600
>From:    Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
>Subject: Re: Alternative OS's on HP 200LX
>
>These are available in Simtel:
>
>4dos552.zip   B  531614  960423  4DOS command processor v5.52 4-17-96
>rel.
>csh4.zip      B   45231  890107  Unix csh -like shell v4.0, w/C source
>cshel131.zip  B   36138  890326  C-Shell for MS-DOS, some features of
>UNIX
>pschel35.zip  B   36693  861002  PC-Shell: UNIX System V-like csh for
>MS-DOS
>sh1-111.zip   B   80565  871027  Unix-like DOS shell with novel
>features
>tvdsh171.zip  B   20344  950220  Unix-like shell,
>DOSKEY/recall/mouse/cut-paste
>
>
>
>
>Chris Pimlott wrote:
>
>>         I was just curious if anyone has had success running Linux
>or other MS-DOS
>> alternative operating systems on the HP 200LX palmtop.  If it's
>possible to
>> put a flavor of unix on it, the geek value would go up
>expotentionally... <gr>
>>
>>         Chris Pimlott

There's (was?) also MKS Toolkit from Mortice Kern Systems, which includes
a unix-like command.com replacement in addition to the usual UNIX toys
(grep, sort, pipes & redirection, basically anything useful except awk,
which came separately)

I bet you (Chris) make your own cables for the LX too (another of Joe
Horn's HP-48 discourses along with bit weights Ý"Homemade cables - a
studly nerd thing"¨). Also refer to his explanation on the need to
periodically change battery orientation to improve battery life - maybe
that's why some of the NiMH users have had such poor performance :#) and
the test report on battery life vs. number of 1 bits set in the HP-48
(yet another reason some people's batteries last longer than others).

Jon Barrett & Ann Lowe
RSCDS Washington Branch
(301)564-0617,  jonzann@juno.com
"Jonzann" 32 bar strathspey for 3 couple set, a wedding present from
Betty Lee Barnes, and published in "Kaleidoscope and Other Dances", 1991.


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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 03:21:58 -0500
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        The thread I started seems to have gotten somewhat off the point...
Unix-like commands for DOS are all well and good but I am interested in
getting the operating system itself (more like any non DOS operating
system) working on a HP 200LX... I suppose that the lack of responses on
this indicates that it hasn't really been done successfully?

        Chris Pimlott

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Dear Brian,

I do some programming for the 200LX in Quick Basic version 4.5 and it's working
fine.
In my applications I do things like controlling a communication-receiver and
A/D converter through the serial port.
Also controlling a reader for TIRIS transponders is working well, so I'm quite
content about Quick Basic.
As a referencebook I use the "Microsoft QuikBASIC Bible" published by Microsoft
Press / Waite Group (don't have the ISBN-nr here, if you'll like to have it
I'll check it out at home, let me know).

Willem van der Veer
Institute for Forestry and Nature Research
Wageningen, The Netherlands

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:13:47 +0100
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I am still looking for the Japanese project management software that is
being discussed in the manual.docs at SUPER. Over the weekend some of my
e-mail got lost, so perhaps someone did respond but I didn't get the
message. Does anyone know where to find this exm file?

Regards

Frank

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Are you sure ?  I did not think there was an Intellisync for HPx00LX.
That's why Brain McIlvaine (bamcilvaine@juno.com) has written a conversion
tool.

William D.Ll.Brown

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On 1998-02-23 store4u@troutsegall.com said to pruijn@usa.net
   >I am trying to get Nettamer up and running for the first time.
   >Following the directions, it appears I have everything configured
   >properly. When I attempt to connect, I get the "Dialing
   >xxx-xxx-xxxx ..." message at the bottom of the screen, but nothing
   >happens. I never connect.
   >My equip. is as follows:
   >HP 200LX 2mb, Motorola Power Cellular/Fax PC-Card modem, Nettamer
   >installed on a 40mb Flash card.
   >Just before dialing, power down and swap flash card for modem.
   >Do I have this set up properly? Can someone give me an alternative
   >setup? I tried putting Nettamer on my C:, but it is too large.
   >Any help would be appreciated.
   >Alex Arancio
Hi Alex,
I am pretty sure this will never work sonce nettamer uses lots of cfg-file
which it reads when starting dialing. After dialing it will download all
your e-mail to the palmtop. So IMHO putting nettamer on c is the only option
for you. (you could look for an exp-modem if only using landline-dialin.

HTH

Bas Pruijn
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:54:14 -1
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On 1998-02-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >Bonjour
   >my question is if there is a programm to syncronice Outlook to
   >HP700LX like for the Palmtop. Or maybe to syncronice between Lotus
   >Organiser and the HP700LX.
WRT outlook, as far as I know they are still working on it. Got it working
for the 100lx. Seems to differ a little from the 200lx/700lx.

If you want to sync with lotus Agenda I *THINK* you can use intellisync from
Puma. I am NOT completely sure. look on the web for more info.

   >Micro$oft isn't the answer, Micro$oft is the question. No is the
   >answer.
Completely right. I must agree.


Bas Pruijn
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:15:27, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> I wanted to try out Dosshell on the LX, but I coudln't find it on=
 any of
> my computers. It seems MS-DOS 6 removed it when I upgraded..
>
> Would some kind soul please send me a copy (or give me a link)?


Hi Laust,

I use Dosshell daily on my palmtop. If you haven't received the needed
files drop me a line and I'll gladly forward them to you.

The needed files are listed below:

Dosshell.com
Dosshell.exe
Dosshell.grb
Dosshell.ini
Dosshell.vid
Dosswap.exe
Regards,

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  / __ \  ____ ___  ____ _____
 / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Comments: To: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>

  In Reply to :
At 23 Feb 10:05, Longden C. Loo wrote:

>Don't feel badly if the installation instructions are difficult to
>understand. In the pre-Post/LX days, it was a rite of passage to do a
>successful NT installation. Back then, the author (David Colston) also had
>more time and personally assisted many who emailed and asked for
>help...don't know if he still does that now that he has a life (ie, he got
>married <g>).
I've DMail2 running using a PPP stack with netdial and epppd. Never
tried Nettamer, but it just CANNOT be more difficult ;-)...
Seriously, if anyone wants to use DMail2 (great Program, except of the
original documentation %-¨), drop me a line. It works fine with a 14.4
modem, external or internal. Higher speeds cause problems, but we're
here to solve them...
The mail system takes about 500k incl. paledit. The main advantage is that
you can customize nearly everything (even all program messages).

C U
        -Tobias-

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:47:56 -0600
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>         The thread I started seems to have gotten somewhat off the point...
> Unix-like commands for DOS are all well and good but I am interested in
> getting the operating system itself (more like any non DOS operating
> system) working on a HP 200LX... I suppose that the lack of responses on
> this indicates that it hasn't really been done successfully?

Chris:

I haven't heard of it being done. For one thing, I'm not sure what
would happen to the built-in applications. Since most of the UNIX's
have a different file system, you'd have to toss out the window all
the ROM apps like Lotus 123, Quicken, Phone, Appt, etc...

I'd love to hear otherwise, but I think we're pretty much stuck with
a DOS FAT as the underlying file system, and probably the low-level
OS as well. The only saving grace that I can see (and have found) is
to either replace the CLI or supplement with UNIX command programs.
I've found this entirely satisfactory, but your needs may be
different than mine.

Let us know what you find. Now I *have* heard of folks getting Linux
running on a Libretto and/or PC-110, but that's a different animal...

-Chris Lott

p.s. I just noticed how similar our names are. Wow.


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Subject:      Gameboy emulator that runs on the HP200LX
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Hi, folks:

I thought that some may find interesting a Gameboy emulator that runs in
our 200LX:

http://www.work.de/nocash/gmb.htm

Go to the "special version" section, and choose the XT version.

Regards. Nacho.

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Came across a web site the selling the PC110:  http://www.jpd.com

What's interesting is the price.  An 8MB PC110 costs about the same as a new 8MB X2
200LX at Thaddeus.  And this is for a 1.6 lb 486 class machine with color display!  Of
course, the battery life does not compare.

_____________11:22:54 AM EST, 2/24/98_____________

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At 04:42 PM 2/24/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I thought that some may find interesting a Gameboy emulator that runs in
>our 200LX:
>http://www.work.de/nocash/gmb.htm
>Go to the "special version" section, and choose the XT version.
>
>Regards. Nacho.

        Ah, very cool... I had looked a bit before but could only find 386+
versions.  This is will very much appreciated by myself...  Thanks for the
link.

        Chris Pimlott

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In a message dated 98-02-24 05:52:25 EST, you write:

<<   I did not think there was an Intellisync for HPx00LX.
 That's why Brain McIlvaine (bamcilvaine@juno.com) has written a conversion
 tool.
  >>

There is an Intellink version for the HPx00LX. The problem is that there is no
Outlook support in Intellink or Intellisync.  What conversion tool are you
referring to?

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In a message dated 98-02-24 05:20:20 EST, you write:

<< So IMHO putting nettamer on c is the only option
 for you. >>

Thanks for the opinion. I'm trying a bare bones Nettamer config on the C:
drive. I'll let you know what happens. Does anyone know if reader.exe HAS to
been in the Nettamer subdir after the initial config is complete?

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:32:08 -0800
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Alex Arancio wrote:

> Thanks for the opinion. I'm trying a bare bones Nettamer config on the C:
> drive. I'll let you know what happens. Does anyone know if reader.exe HAS to
> been in the Nettamer subdir after the initial config is complete?

That's what NetTamer uses to let you read your mail. If you just did the
download maybe you can defer the reading till after you put your flash
card back in. Kinda clunky, but worth a try.

- Longden

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G'day
an where my i get this programm?
merci
Vincent


Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Intellisynch by Puma Technologies should do the job nicely.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Kocher <vkocher@WINET.CH>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: 23 February, 1998 10:48
> Subject: Outlook to HP
>
> >Bonjour
> >
> >my question is if there is a programm to syncronice Outlook to HP700LX
> >like for the Palmtop. Or maybe to syncronice between Lotus Organiser and
> >the HP700LX.
> >
> >--
> >gruss Vincent
> >http://www.wombat.ch
> >************************************************
> >Micro$oft isn't the answer, Micro$oft is the question. No is the answer.
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Now that I have my XJACK modem (thanks Tony Hutchins!) I had to
dive into CIC100. The problem is (as mentioned before on this
list) that you cannot run CIC100 only in one SC work area.

CIC100 is an undocumented program on our palmtops written by
www.systemsoft.com. The handbook says, use it like:

CIC100 /GEN 1

This is a very strange command to invoke a ROM software on one
specific machine. Well, I found out, that CIC100 takes at
least 4 other command line parameters:

/GENIO
/GEN
/V
$

If you use one of these parameters after you installed CIC100
already, CIC100  responds:

  HP Card Installation Client Version 1.15 - 4/4/94
  Copyright 1990-1994 SystemSoft Corp. All Rights Reserved
  CIC already installed: argument values updated

If you use any other parameter, CIC100 responds:

  HP Card Installation Client Version 1.15 - 4/4/94
  Copyright 1990-1994 SystemSoft Corp. All Rights Reserved
  No matching string in arg table
   /HELP
   ¬
  Installation Failed: Command-Line-Argument Error

The /V parameter seems to install CIC100 in a non-resident way,
but I could not get my modem to work that way. But any other
command worked fine with my XJACK1144. No need to append /GEN 1

Has anybody more information about CIC100? Any help
appreciated.

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wow thanks now to find those cartridge files? tx roy

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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Now that I have my XJACK modem (thanks Tony Hutchins!) I had to
> dive into CIC100. The problem is (as mentioned before on this
> list) that you cannot run CIC100 only in one SC work area.
>
> CIC100 is an undocumented program on our palmtops written by
> www.systemsoft.com. The handbook says, use it like:
>
> CIC100 /GEN 1
>
> This is a very strange command to invoke a ROM software on one
> specific machine. Well, I found out, that CIC100 takes at
> least 4 other command line parameters:
>
> /GENIO
> /GEN
> /V
> $

<snip>

> The /V parameter seems to install CIC100 in a non-resident way,
> but I could not get my modem to work that way. But any other
> command worked fine with my XJACK1144. No need to append /GEN 1
>
> Has anybody more information about CIC100? Any help
> appreciated.

Since you have the XJACK1144, there is a program that comes with the
Developer's Guide called CICDEMO.  This is a little assembly program that
shows you how to interface with the PCMCIA socket.  As a demo, the guy who
wrote it used his XJ1144 modem, so the demo program will probably work
with your modem without modification.  The CICDEMO has one nice feature
that CIC100 doesn't seem to have: it can be removed.

Give it a shot and see if it can be made to work in a SC work area.

 --
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:27:12 +0100
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Where, please,  can we get this tool?
- Juerg

On Tuesday, 24 February, 1998 10:16, Brown, William ÝSMTP:wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK¨ wrote:
> Are you sure ?  I did not think there was an Intellisync for HPx00LX.
> That's why Brain McIlvaine (bamcilvaine@juno.com) has written a conversion
> tool.
>
> William D.Ll.Brown
>
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Sorry I probably missed somewhere an important point. But what does it mean "WRT" and how did you get "it running"?
- Juerg

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> On 1998-02-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
>    >Bonjour
>    >my question is if there is a programm to syncronice Outlook to
>    >HP700LX like for the Palmtop. Or maybe to syncronice between Lotus
>    >Organiser and the HP700LX.
> WRT outlook, as far as I know they are still working on it. Got it working
> for the 100lx. Seems to differ a little from the 200lx/700lx.

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You could get it from www.pumatech.com. However it seems it doesn't work
with 32bit programs like Outlook, ECCO 4.0 and some others. Pumatech wrote
that they do not intend to engineer an application to do so since
Intelisync (careful not "Intelilink") for HP200LX didn't sell good at all.
However if you find a solution or an other program please let me know
- Juerg

On Tuesday, 24 February, 1998 18:53, Vincent Kocher ÝSMTP:vkocher@WINET.CH¨
wrote:
> G'day
> an where my i get this programm?
> merci
> Vincent
>
>
> Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
> > Intellisynch by Puma Technologies should do the job nicely.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vincent Kocher <vkocher@WINET.CH>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > Date: 23 February, 1998 10:48
> > Subject: Outlook to HP
> >
> > >Bonjour
> > >
> > >my question is if there is a programm to syncronice Outlook to HP700LX
> > >like for the Palmtop. Or maybe to syncronice between Lotus Organiser
and
> > >the HP700LX.
> > >
> > >--
> > >gruss Vincent
> > >http://www.wombat.ch
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answer.
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:36:29 +0100
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At 11.44 24/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
>At 04:42 PM 2/24/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>I thought that some may find interesting a Gameboy emulator that runs in
>>our 200LX:
>>http://www.work.de/nocash/gmb.htm
>>Go to the "special version" section, and choose the XT version.
>>
>>Regards. Nacho.
>
>        Ah, very cool... I had looked a bit before but could only find 386+
>versions.  This is will very much appreciated by myself...  Thanks for the
>link.
>
>        Chris Pimlott
>

It's quite interesting... but it's toooooo slow (in fact you cant't use it
on the hp200. I've tried even maxcpu... but noway!

                Raffaele Gaioni

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Haiku Error Messages

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes, and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Errors have occurred.
We won't tell you where or why.
Lazy programmers.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Seeing my great fault
Through darkening blue windows
I begin again
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The code was willing,
It considered your request,
But the chips were weak.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Printer not ready.
Could be a fatal error.
Have a pen handy?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Server's poor response
Not quick enough for browser.
Timed out, plum blossom.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Login incorrect.
Only perfect spellers may
enter this system.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
This site has been moved.
We'd tell you where, but then we'd
have to delete you.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
wind catches lily
scatt'ring petals to the wind:
segmentation fault
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
ABORTED effort:
Close all that you have.
You ask way too much.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
so beautifully.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
With searching comes loss
and the presence of absence:
"My Novel" not found.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The Tao that is seen
Is not the true Tao, until
You bring fresh toner.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The Web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Stay the patient course
Of little worth is your ire
The network is down
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A crash reduces
your expensive computer
to a simple stone.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
There is a chasm
of carbon and silicon
the software can't bridge
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
To have no errors
Would be life without meaning
No struggle, no joy
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
You step in the stream,
but the water has moved on.
This page is not here.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
No keyboard present
Hit F1 to continue
Zen engineering?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
But we never will.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The ten thousand things
How long do any persist?
Netscape, too, has gone.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Rather than a beep
Or a rude error message,
These words: "File not found."

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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:21:37 -0800
From: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Japanese Project Management Program

Someone on the list was looking for the Japanese project management
program
mentioned in the PROJECT.ZIP file on S.U.P.E.R.

The file is at ftp://ftp.libertynet.org/site/graphiti/hplx/Japan/ under
pjt20012.lzh I believe.


Regards,

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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:13:47, Frank Ubachs wrote:

> I am still looking for the Japanese project management software that=
 is
> being discussed in the manual.docs at SUPER. Over the weekend some=
 of my
> e-mail got lost, so perhaps someone did respond but I didn't get the
> message. Does anyone know where to find this exm file?


Hi Frank & List

Just completed a search of my DL directory and found the PJT20012.lzh
program. Its been rezipped with Winzip, if anybody needs it drop me=
 a
line.
Regards,

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Are there any new 32MB upgrade rumors?

Interested in info on pricing, availability, and sources.

Thanks,

Michael
_____________3:39:57 PM EST, 2/24/98_____________

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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:33:12 0, Antonio Menezes <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt=
> wrote:

ab> Hi all,
ab>
ab> I was sucesseful in installing Windows 3.0, Excel 2.1 and Word for
ab> Windows 1.1 on my HP 200 8MB DS palmtop in a Software Carrosel area.
ab> The problem is I have no mouse attached and would like to use one
ab> mouse emulator. I tried HPMouse but coudn't make it work. Can anyone
ab> help me....

Antonio, hpmouse won't work with windows. If you still haven't got a
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On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:13:30 -0600, Yves Leurquin <leurquin@POBOXES.COM> =
wrote:

le>  > Has anybody been able to successfully mount a JAM disk image under
le>  > DOS 7/Windows 95?
le>
le> I would also very much like to see how to achieve this. I found JAM =
to have a
le> similar compression ratio to Stacker 4.0. It has the advantage over =
stacker
le> to alow access at the same time to the compressed F: drive and the
le> uncompressed portion on the A: drive for time critical applications.

If you are trying to access a jammed flashcard on the win95 pc then i
can't offer much help there but if its compression on the win95 pc
you're after i suggest looking at drivespace 3 instead.

le> I tried rebooting WIN95 with "boot with previous DOS version" but it =
crashed
le> my Laptop. If somebody can give a clue on how to proceed this would =
be much
le> appreciated.

I think this applies only to machines which were running a previous
version of windows and had 95 installed over it. In that case you can
opt to keep the old version after a successful win95 install and boot
to it instead.

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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:15:26 -0300, Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR> =
wrote:

ma>    My older EXP 4mb, had a 4096 bad sectors, i told the same to the =
guy
ma> at tech support, how can a flash card can have bad sectors ?!
ma> He said it's possible...

I have seen 4096 in bad sectors, even 8192 after running the special
format utility that comes with those cards. Strangely enough on the
third or fourth attempt i get 0 bad sectors on some of them!

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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 18:16:22 -0800, Phil Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

ps> Was The Software Carousel modified for use with the HP200LX
ps> or are you guys just using the one designed for a regular PC?

The version i use is specifically designed for the 200lx and you may
even call up the carousel control menu by using left shift+menu in any
work area! Fabulous utility - i can highly recommen it...

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Thaddeus recently announced that they will be doing a 32MB upgrade soon,=
 but
it's in the beta testing phase right now.

I can say this: the 32MB upgrade is approximately twice as fast as the
1/2/4/5/6/8MB units for disk access.

But there are still some major problems to overcome, such as the lack=
 of a
working EMM driver as of yet.

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The Cirque Easy Cat is a tiny touchpad that complements the 200LX nicely
in the mouse department.  So that's a possible solution to the mouse
problem.

Alternatively, Windows 2.03 works well without a mouse, much better=
 than
3.0.

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->I use Dosshell daily on my palmtop. If you haven't received the needed
->files drop me a line and I'll gladly forward them to you.

Really?  I heard it is very slow compared to Carousel.  How do you find it
and how do you configure it.

Jeff

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I have:
Unused Newton Keyboard for sale/trade.
Complete with box and registration card.
Model x0044 (somewhat newer than
that mentioned in NTKPAC05.zip (on Super))

Make up a din-8 to 9-pin serial cable
and use it with your LX.

I would really like to trade it for a somewhat
damaged, functional 100LX - ie, a while back
someone had one with defective serial port but
good PCMCIA. Crack OK, no broken hinges.

Or I will sell if for $55 prepaid.

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   >The Cirque Easy Cat is a tiny touchpad that complements the 200LX
   >nicely in the mouse department.  So that's a possible solution to
   >the mouse problem.
   >Alternatively, Windows 2.03 works well without a mouse, much better=
   >than 3.0.

i agree 100% about the mouselesness of 2.03 As i touch-type, i
find a mouse a distraction, like having to shift brain modes to
do something with the keyboard and then something with the mouse.

The keys are always there! Alt+F or Ctrl+O is far easier IMHO
than reaching for a mouse and finding the cursor and moving it
carefullly to the correct place and highlighting the correct menu
item and then going back to the keyboard.

Consider the urge to print.

i would go (in Word for Windows on my palmtop) Ctrl+P, Enter, and
the printer starts up.

Mr mouseman would stop using the keys, reach for his mouse, move
it to the file menu, click on it, drag it to print (or click
separately on print) move the mouse pointer to where the dialog
box popped up and carefully place the pointer over the OK button
and click again.

You can actually do more with the keyboard with 2.03 than with
3.0 as the Microsoft boys and girls in their wisdom (?) reduced
the keyboard access hot keys because they believed the world had
embraced the rodentized environment.

In 2.03 pressing Alt+Space will give you the control box menu for
the active window and Alt+Hyphen gives the control box for the
active child-window.

One can select the menu option with the correct alpha key, or
read the hot key option and learn those for faster work habits.

Paint, in 2.03 has Full keyboard control, dig deep and you will
find them! The files generated by Paint are laterly compatibile,
and can be sucked into later versions of windows.

The biggest drawback to 3.0 for me is the file manager, i find it
to be cluttered and annoying, with it's multiple windows. The
MS-Dos Executive (surely a candidate for the most overpowering
name ever given to an app?) is KISS and works sweet for me.

i still love the LX's built in apps though, and sometimes
actually run 200 from windows, although i never try to tempt fate
by trying to get it to Alt+Tab back and forth!


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Comments: To: Ryan Thomas McBride <rtmcbrid@SFU.CA>

  In Reply to :
At 24 Feb 11:48, Ryan Thomas McBride wrote:
>
>Haiku Error Messages
>
That reminds me of a programming language I heard about long ago: its error
messages were POLITE ("sorry to bother you, but your program has just
tried to divide an integer by zero, would you please be so kind to
review it?") Don't remember the name...

C U
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> ><speculation>
> >Wait for HP to bring out the palmtop they really want to, when their
> >secret agreement with MS to produce only WinCE terminates.
> ></speculation>


> Is there a release note, or just rumor, vaporware or just conjecture?
Just speculation. (Maybe a rumor now too :)

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:11:42 +0900
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:41:21 -0500, mdstockr wrote:
 > Are there any new 32MB upgrade rumors?
 >
 > Interested in info on pricing, availability, and sources.

It's maybe not a rumor. In the following URL(unfortunately in
Japanese), you can find the information about 16/32MB RAM upgrade.

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~tns/tnshp16.html

>From thier announcement, they restart to sell 16/32MB RAMs on 1st
March. 32MB RAM costs 43,800YEN.
I'm looking forward to upgrading my double speed HP200LX.
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> > ><speculation>
> > >Wait for HP to bring out the palmtop they really want to, when their
> > >secret agreement with MS to produce only WinCE terminates.
> > ></speculation>
>
>
> > Is there a release note, or just rumor, vaporware or just conjecture?
> Just speculation. (Maybe a rumor now too :)

Seems like there is enough collective skills in this and other
palmtop groups to just design our own. But to find a manufacturer to
build the darn things. Aye, there's the rub...

-Chris Lott


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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> I use Dosshell daily on my palmtop. If you haven't received the needed
> files drop me a line and I'll gladly forward them to you.
>
I was already sent a copy. Thanks to those who replied.


Cheers,

Laust

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Phil wrote:

>Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>  Alas, I now have a psion 5, and while I haven't yet sold my hp200LX, I may
>> soon.  The HP is a great machine, and definatly the second best in my
>> opinion, but with the tiny keyboard (ok, I DO miss the number pad)
>
>Can you use an external keyboard that almost as good as a desktop
>keyboard with the psion (like the Newton?)

I don't know but the Psion keyboard is nice enough that hauling around an
extra keyboard doesn't make sense.

>Can you run standard DOS programs (like ones to help
>you learn music, Japanese, analyze personality, create new ideas)?.
>Are there 3000 shareware programs to choose from?

I don't think so, especially for the P5 since it's relatively new.  You
have to keep in mind, though, that there's a lot of crap in those 3000
programs.  They're not all Jewels.  I've seen some pretty keen stuff for
the P5 like a program which allows you play some Doom WADs.

>Can you run Idea Generator Plus, which can help you get along
>better with your girl-friend, improve your marketing strategy,
>and figure out how to get your tax situation in order?

There's lots of Psion software which does stuff the HP cannot.

>Can you write, compile, and run programs using PROLOG (a
>5th generation language for artifical intelligence?)

I don't think so...can the HP run OPL?  No.

Basically, for Reed's uses, he finds the Psion to be the superior machine.
No matter how much we like the HP, for some of us, the Psion 5 may be the
better choice.

As for myself, I didn't like the P5's screen (too difficult to read in many
lighting conditions w/o using the backlight; the unit seemed too fragile
because of the slide-out keyboard; the lack of a PCMCIA slot was ludicrous;
and the database app wasn't as good as the HP's although it was much faster
at searching.  I returned the P5 and am still using my HP100LX.


...lars

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At 11:03 PM 2/24/98 +0100, you wrote:
>That reminds me of a programming language I heard about long ago: its error
>messages were POLITE ("sorry to bother you, but your program has just
>tried to divide an integer by zero, would you please be so kind to
>review it?") Don't remember the name...

That sounds like LAIDBACK.  No, what we need is a weird programming
language with severe handicaps and smart-ass error messages.  We need
INTERCAL.  Anyone with me?  Didn't think so. :)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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At 10:54 AM 2/25/98 +1300, you wrote:
>The keys are always there! Alt+F or Ctrl+O is far easier IMHO
>than reaching for a mouse and finding the cursor and moving it
>carefullly to the correct place and highlighting the correct menu
>item and then going back to the keyboard.

Actually with a touchpad close at hand, or a Trackblob, you can do
it pretty quick.  But why, if there's a quicker keyboard solution?
Although, things can get extreme if you dump menus and things entirely -
WordPerfect 5.1 comes to mind.

>You can actually do more with the keyboard with 2.03 than with
>3.0 as the Microsoft boys and girls in their wisdom (?) reduced
>the keyboard access hot keys because they believed the world had
>embraced the rodentized environment.

They were right!  Rodentia have invaded our desktops, and even the
lowliest computer has one, anymore.  Even failing that, there's
usually some sort of pointing device.  My keyboard has a touchpad on
it, and it's extremely useful.  Still no excuse to ditch hot keys ..
my favorites, Alt-F9 and Alt-F10, used to maximize and minimize
windows, but now they just sit there orphaned.

>In 2.03 pressing Alt+Space will give you the control box menu for
>the active window and Alt+Hyphen gives the control box for the
>active child-window.
>
>One can select the menu option with the correct alpha key, or
>read the hot key option and learn those for faster work habits.

Sounds like what we need is an adapter for an MIT Space Cadet
keyboard.  :)  With 7 meta keys, you could enter maybe 4000 unique
characters.  Also, Alt-Space and Alt-Hyphen still work in 3.1 - not
sure about 95 because I'm afraid to use it.  Call me a luddite, but
I still run DR-OpenDOS on my main computer...

>Paint, in 2.03 has Full keyboard control, dig deep and you will
>find them! The files generated by Paint are laterly compatibile,
>and can be sucked into later versions of windows.

Aigh.  Who would want to paint with the keyboard?  An Etch-a-Sketch
would do better!

>The biggest drawback to 3.0 for me is the file manager, i find it
>to be cluttered and annoying, with it's multiple windows. The
>MS-Dos Executive (surely a candidate for the most overpowering
>name ever given to an app?) is KISS and works sweet for me.

MS-DOS Exec is an overpowering name for an app, but how about the
single, foreboding API call in Win 3.1 - SetWorldTransform()?
Back to the Exec, I find the new file manager to be trash, and I
find Exec to be trash.  We need a new command shell - bash comes to
mind.  Maybe I'll make time to write it, or start a development team...

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Subject:      developers pack query

Does the developers pack manual contain detailed information on
the PCMCIA slot?  Specifically, does it look like one could enable
and disable power to a modem in the slot?  I'd really like to keep
an XJ1144 in the slot full-time and only power it up when I talk
to it.  Too bad it takes so much juice in sleep!  I found an OEM
with modems as low as 6ma sleeping, but of course no X-Jack!

Anyone have the latest SDK/manual they no longer use and would
like to sell?

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v0.04alpha) REGISTERED

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        >>You can actually do more with the keyboard with 2.03 than with
        >>3.0 as the Microsoft boys and girls in their wisdom (?) reduced
        >>the keyboard access hot keys because they believed the world had
        >>embraced the rodentized environment.

        I often still use keyboard only on Windows, including Windows NT 4.0
and Windows 98. The menus are all accessible via ATL-letter; e.g., app exit
is usually _F_ile E_x_it, thus that's ALT-F X, a key sequence very much
hardwired into my fingers. ALT-F S for save is another such. ALT-space and
ALT-hyphen still work, and TAB and shift-TAB and the arrow keys work great
for moving around different fields. The one app that I use the mouse for is
Internet Explorer.

        Microsoft actually makes a big deal internally about making sure
apps run without the mouse. Just a week or two ago I was up in Redmond and I
saw posters saying "have you tried using your app without a mouse recently?"
The reason is "accessibility" -- making sure that the apps can be run by
folks that cannot use a mouse for disability or other reasons.

        - Joe

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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:04:38 -0500
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From: Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
>>Can you write, compile, and run programs using PROLOG (a
>>5th generation language for artifical intelligence?)
>
>I don't think so...can the HP run OPL?  No.

Well, maybe not OPL, but HP can run Visual Basic,
and OPL is very inferior when compared to VB.

I owned a Psion 5, and I can tell you, OPL is one of the
worst dialog of Basic.

Besides, who cares about Basic?  Can Psion 5 run
a C++ compiler?  I don't think so.

>Basically, for Reed's uses, he finds the Psion to be the superior machine.
>No matter how much we like the HP, for some of us, the Psion 5 may be the
>better choice.

For anyone used to the versatility of DOS, the Psion is just not an option.
(Not to mention poor QA by Psion, the two Psions I had both got the
 stuck-stylus problem.)

            Yi

P.S.  Of course, I'm back to using the HP200 now.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:40:07 +1100
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Gentlemen, I believe that the tone of this debate is completely
inappropriate for this mailing list.  You should be putting the boot in!


(a) the Psion 5 is much less robust than the hp200 ... do you hear
tales of P5's being thrown down concrete staircases, and just losing
battery cover? (*only a flesh wound!*) Do P5 users emerse them in
water to see what happens, and they still work? Do P5's work after
you drop them down the toilet?
        NOTE: I'm arguing for the hp200... not it's users!  :)


(b) The P5 runs a specialised OS (which is better than DOS) but simply
does not have access to the depth and breadth of software. It's not
just PROLOG... it's every language and every software you can imagine.
I bet you can get very good quality smalltalk and Ada for DOS if you
want. Not even C is available for P5.
ÝThough P5 has a spectrum emulator, and C compilers *are* available for
that. This doesn't count!¨

This is due to DOS being a very popular and general OS for over
a decade. A specialised OS just can't compete, no matter how good it is.
Imagine a program, and it probably exists for DOS, better than your
conception.

> >...can the HP run OPL?
> OPL is one of the worst dialog of Basic.
OPL is not compiled, so not only is it obtuse and non-portable, it's
also slow. I mean, it's good that they have it, but it is ridiculous to
compare this with the wealth of languages available for DOS.

OTOH, there is *talk* of java for P5 (as there is for WinCE). But this
talk has been around for a bit now, and java is a nice, but *slowww*
language - a valid design choice for its purposes.


(c) The P5 does have some specialised software which is better -
their mapping software comes to mind.


(d) The P5 is a more advanced machine. HP should have produced an
equivalent, enchanced hp200lx. And we've not happy about it.


There *are* technical problems: such as no DOS for the low-power RISC
processors that are currently favoured...
<speculation>
Another general OS that is already available for a RISC processor would
be the way to go: lots of software available. Some unices fit this bill...
</speculation>

--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
"Sometimes you just have to take the leap,
 and build your wings on the way down."         -Kobi Yamada

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 16:32:13 +0000
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Some time ago there where several email about AL.
I don't realy know this soft but if some of you need it,
I have a old version of Prolog from Borland.

regards
Al
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:37:25 -0800
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> I don't think anyone can seriously consider it abandonware. The
> abandonware programs are all 5+ years old. I think we'll need to wait
> until 2003 to start passin' it around. If we do it today, it's illegal!

I think if you do it without permission from the owner it is
illegal no matter how much time passes. A friend assumed (the
killer) that some software he had for 10 years and no contact
with published and author (they never replied) was abandoned.
He distributed it to approx. 200 people in a business context.
The lawsuit came fast and furious. He wiggled and wiggled, and
lost it court, and on appeal. They collected more than you can
iamagine, even though the part he distributed was not
profitting him.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Michael:

> Are there any new 32MB upgrade rumors?

Not a rumor. I have been using one for some time. It is very
nice to have so much "real estate" on board. I have more on C:
than on A: and that actually feels a bit weird, but nice :) ...

Here is a chkdsk I took a few days ago:


Volume Times2_Tech created 01-14-1998 12:29a

  33455104 bytes total disk space
      5120 bytes in 1 hidden files
     21504 bytes in 11 directories
  12435456 bytes in 344 user files
  20993024 bytes available on disk

      1024 bytes in each allocation unit
     32671 total allocation units on disk
     20501 available allocation units on disk

    651264 total bytes memory
    349664 bytes free

The implementation is as an F: drive, which must be
initialized the forst time with a program, then the driver is
loaded in CONFIG.SYS, then the srive names are swapped, so C:
becomes F: and F: becomes C:. Filer sees the 32MB. It takes a
moment more to scan the drive, but not anything that is
bothersome.

The battery life is the same, basically. I did not measure the
stuff scientifically (not that anal-retentive <g>...) and
probably within 5-10% differences I would not notice. So I
assume that the battery life remains within this range.

thaddeus in US, One Stop Plmtop Shop, and Rundel in Wurope
will distribute. I suspect also Shier will jump in there
eventually (his call).

Hal Goldstein said about 499.95, with some rebate for the
larger units, but I do not have the details.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Al,

> I'm never hhappy when a business go down.
> I never bought for this software, because
> I wasn't able to test it and
> I thought it was to expensive for me,
> especialy when you have to pay the shiping to Australia.

Your personal plight is well understood.

> For information, I have several REGITRED shareware running on my
> desktop, and I own Most of the abandonwares which are one my web
> site. (wor 5.5, Framework III, MSASM,Spring...)

<mounting soapbox> <Flamethrowers ON, 100%>

If you publish software, then you should be the LAST PERSON on
earth to ASSUME some software is "abandonware", whatever that
is.

I found in one of the sites OUR COMMERCIAL PRODUCT (not
ABC/LX) and that is most definitely abandonware. This is in a
site where the owner says he follows VERY STRICT guidelines.
What a bunch of hogwash...

> You are working from Microsoft, so if you can found an original
> version of Visual Basic Pro and Word 6.0 DOS, I'm ready to buy then.
> Because at this time nobody repply to any advertissement I use to put
> about these software.

The fact that no one wants to sell their copy to you is not an
excuse. How would you like your OWN PRODUCTS distributed by
someone while you watch? I cannot imagine what logic you
follow (if at all!)

> And Sorry for my english,
> some tine (often) I can say exactly what I think.

Your english is fine enough, it is your ideas about justifying
taking someone's property without permission that is weak!

In the beginning of your post you write:

> I'm never hhappy when a business go down.

I am wondering if you ever spent more than one second to think
why some software businesses go down? Perhaps it is because
they cannot defend themselves against illicit transfer of
their software among unauthorized people? Nah... You probably
did not think about that, at least I am not convinced you did.

<off the soapbox> <Flamethrowers off>

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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I know this is off the topic, but I think some of these are really cute....and
we all need a break!!

Cathy


   1.  Home is where you hang your @
    2.  The E-mail of the species is more deadly than the mail.
    3.  A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click.
    4.  You can't teach a new mouse old clicks.
    5.  Great groups from little icons grow.
    6.  Speak softly and carry a cellular phone.
    7.  C:\ is the root of all directories.
    8.  Don't put all your hypes in one home page.
    9.  Pentium wise; pen and paper foolish.
    10. The modem is the message.
    11. Too many clicks spoil the browse.
    12. The geek shall inherit the earth.
    13. A chat has nine lives.
    14. Don't byte off more than you can view.
    15. Fax is stranger than fiction.
    16. What boots up must come down.
    17. Windows will never cease.
    18. In Gates we trust.
    19. Virtual reality is its own reward.
    20. Modulation in all things.
    21. A user and his leisure time are soon parted.
    22. There's no place like http://www.home.com
    23. Know what to expect before you connect.
    24. Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice.
    25. Speed thrills.
    26. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use
          the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.

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I found a copy (i.e., bought at a library store) of Dollars and
Sense for XT/AT computers, and installed it.  It runs, but
won't let me create a new account.  Has anyone on the list had
any experience running this on an HP*00 LX?

It looks like it could be useful, since I also ran it under
*cringe* Win 95.  It appears to expect the data files on a
different drive, but I don't have enough space to create them
on the C drive.  Maybe there is a way to 'fool' it?  The
company has gone out of business, and the program is at least
10 years old, so I think it may be abandonware, but am not
sure.  I could send a copy if anyone wants to play around with
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> I think if you do it without permission from the owner it is
> illegal no matter how much time passes.

The statutory period is presently 50 years after the death of the
creator of the work.

Of course, it *is* hard to find software for which this period
has expired; and therefore, in practical terms, you are perfectly
correct.


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
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 and build your wings on the way down."         -Kobi Yamada

Ý*¨ though this may be increased as profitable USA copyrights approach their
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:18:33 +0000
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On 1998-02-24 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >> Are there any new 32MB upgrade rumors?

   >Not a rumor. I have been using one for some time. It is very
   >The implementation is as an F: drive, which must be
   >initialized the forst time with a program, then the driver is
   >loaded in CONFIG.SYS,

Very interesting Avi. How big is the driver (how much memory does it
take away?)

The output of your 'mem /c' command would be useful.

Now if we can can only rig this gadget to run on nitrous oxide <g>.

- Longden

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:18:40 +0000
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On 1998-02-25 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I found a copy (i.e., bought at a library store) of Dollars and
   >Sense for XT/AT computers, and installed it.  It runs, but
   >won't let me create a new account.  Has anyone on the list had
   >any experience running this on an HP*00 LX?
   >It looks like it could be useful, since I also ran it under
   >*cringe* Win 95.  It appears to expect the data files on a
   >different drive, but I don't have enough space to create them
   >on the C drive.  Maybe there is a way to 'fool' it?

You can use the DOS SUBST command to make it think it has another
drive...but if you're out of space on C, why not try A?

- Longden

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Today I copied my Win3.11 WIN.COM file to the palmtop and
executed:

WIN /?

I was very surprised to see the help screen appearing. This
means at least, that WIN.COM has no 386 specific code in it.
Maybe we are all wrong, and there is a way of running Win3.11
on the palmtop. Someone told me, WIN /D:L starts Win3.11 in
real mode. Didn't work for me, but I'm no windows specialist!

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> Today I copied my Win3.11 WIN.COM file to the palmtop and
> executed:
>
> WIN /?
>
> I was very surprised to see the help screen appearing. This
> means at least, that WIN.COM has no 386 specific code in it.
> Maybe we are all wrong, and there is a way of running Win3.11
> on the palmtop. Someone told me, WIN /D:L starts Win3.11 in
> real mode. Didn't work for me, but I'm no windows specialist!
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Well, I hate to dissapoint you, but it cant run. You are partly right
about the no 386-specific code, but thats only in enhanced mode. Real
mode is all 286 specific code. sorry.

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Does anybody use CICDEMO from the HP200LX SDK as a replacement
for CIC100? The SDK says, CICDEMO is an example code for using
the MEGAHERTZ XJ1144 in the palmtop. The advantage of CICDEMO
over CIC100 is, that CICDEMO only uses 1KB resident, whereas
CIC100 uses 7KB resident, and you can remove CICDEMO from
memory with the U command line parameter.

Unfortunately I cannot get CICDEMO to work with my XJ1144 on my
DoubleSpeed 200LX. The modem is recognized, but cannot be
accessed via CICDEMO.

Does anybody has experience with CICDEMO or even modified it
for his needs? (The ASM code is included in the SDK)

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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> Volume Times2_Tech created 01-14-1998 12:29a

> thaddeus in US, One Stop Plmtop Shop, and Rundel in Wurope
> will distribute. I suspect also Shier will jump in there
> eventually (his call).

What about Mack? That IS his moniker on your disk volume label <g>.

- Longden

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On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Al wrote:

> Some time ago there where several email about AL.
> I don't realy know this soft but if some of you need it,
> I have a old version of Prolog from Borland.

I'm currently dealing at work with a company called Arity.  They have
several versions of Prolog, including one for dos.

http://www.arity.com


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>Gentlemen, I believe that the tone of this debate is completely
>inappropriate for this mailing list.<snip>
>
>Agree, but would like to exchange the word "tone" for "content".
>
>(a) the Psion 5 is much less robust than the hp200 ... do you hear
>tales of P5's<snip>
>
>No, this is an HP discussion group.
>
>(b) The P5 runs a specialised OS
>
>So does the HP, DOS in ROM _is_ specialized.
>
>I sure most people are tired of me waiting quietly in the background, then
>sticking my head in and making no sense, however each of us have our
>thresholds.
>
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On 1998-02-24 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >The Cirque Easy Cat is a tiny touchpad that complements the 200LX
   >nicely in the mouse department.  So that's a possible solution to
   >the mouse problem.
   >Alternatively, Windows 2.03 works well without a mouse, much better=
   >than
   >3.0.
When I tried version 2.03 I had some problems using standard DOS programs
from under windows. It always responded with the same error-message
complaining about not able to run *OS/2* commands under windows. I used
setverm, so that may not be the problem, or is it. Windows is on a stackered
(version 1 or 2) flashcard (part of my exp-modem)

Please help. I'd love to have windows on my palmtop.

Is it possible to start the sysmgr from within windows?

Greetings

Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn            mailto:pruijn@usa.net

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I've used older versions of the "Thompson Toolkit" before.  This is
similar to the MKS toolkit, but much cheaper.  It provides a Korn Shell
environment with ~100 of the standard UNIX commands.  I've placed a call
to them to see if the current DOS version will work on our hardware.
Their web site is:

http://www.tasoft.com

-clark

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VERY cool!




sponsor@FTEL.NET on 02/25/98 12:37:34 AM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
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Michael:
> Are there any new 32MB upgrade rumors?
Not a rumor. I have been using one for some time. It is very
nice to have so much "real estate" on board. I have more on C:
than on A: and that actually feels a bit weird, but nice :) ...
Here is a chkdsk I took a few days ago:

Volume Times2_Tech created 01-14-1998 12:29a
  33455104 bytes total disk space
      5120 bytes in 1 hidden files
     21504 bytes in 11 directories
  12435456 bytes in 344 user files
  20993024 bytes available on disk
      1024 bytes in each allocation unit
     32671 total allocation units on disk
     20501 available allocation units on disk
    651264 total bytes memory
    349664 bytes free
The implementation is as an F: drive, which must be
initialized the forst time with a program, then the driver is
loaded in CONFIG.SYS, then the srive names are swapped, so C:
becomes F: and F: becomes C:. Filer sees the 32MB. It takes a
moment more to scan the drive, but not anything that is
bothersome.
The battery life is the same, basically. I did not measure the
stuff scientifically (not that anal-retentive <g>...) and
probably within 5-10% differences I would not notice. So I
assume that the battery life remains within this range.
thaddeus in US, One Stop Plmtop Shop, and Rundel in Wurope
will distribute. I suspect also Shier will jump in there
eventually (his call).
Hal Goldstein said about 499.95, with some rebate for the
larger units, but I do not have the details.
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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About a week or so ago I posted a help message to the list asking for advice
on installing Win 3.0 on my 200LX. I wanted to thank all who responded in
case I missed anyone personally. The set-up I now have is almost a complete
installation of Win 3.0 minus all the unnecessary help files for the
specific programs. I'm using a keyboard mouse emulator that was generously
donated by a member of the list. I'm hoping to install within the next day
or so a Windows word processing program and Excel. I did try to install an
old copy of Trumpet winsock and Netscape 1.0 but unfortunately they both
require standard or enhanced mode and the Win 3.0 is running in real mode. I
can't imagine why anyone would want to by a CE machine, which from what I
understand is merely a companion to Win 95 (I have no CE experience), when
you can run the full-fledged version of Win 3.0 on the 200LX.

As far as the Gameboy emulator, I downloaded it along with a couple of the
Gameboy cartridge files and it runs pretty well on my speed doubled 200LX.
It's no where as quick as the real thing, but it's pretty impressive to see
it running on my little screen. I'm gonna play with the color set-up that is
available to see if I can make it look a little better.

Jeff

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   >Are there any new 32MB upgrade rumors?
   >Interested in info on pricing, availability, and sources.
   >Thanks,
Message-Id: <E0y7lSe-0003oj-00@neodymium>

Available soon from www.thaddeus.com and (?)Rundel Technik in Germany.
Price around $500 for converting an existing machine.

Excellent review on HPHAND over on Compuserve from a very satisfied
beta Tester.

What can't we do now!

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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Ian Butler wrote:

Hi Ian,

Ýsnip¨
> Actually with a touchpad close at hand, or a Trackblob, you can do
> it pretty quick.  But why, if there's a quicker keyboard solution?
> Although, things can get extreme if you dump menus and things entirely -
> WordPerfect 5.1 comes to mind.

WordPerfect had menus... You use Alt-Ýkey to the left of backspace (on a
standard PC keyboard, not the LX)¨ to access it (at least on a Danish
keyboard). You can also configure it so you use ALT as the menu - like in
"normal" programs.  It did have some odd shortcuts, though - F3 was the
default button for help! (although it could be changed to F1)

> Sounds like what we need is an adapter for an MIT Space Cadet
> keyboard.  :)  With 7 meta keys, you could enter maybe 4000 unique
> characters.  Also, Alt-Space and Alt-Hyphen still work in 3.1 - not
> sure about 95 because I'm afraid to use it.  Call me a luddite, but
> I still run DR-OpenDOS on my main computer...

Alt-space still works - couldn't get A-hyphen to work, but that might be
due to my Danish keyboard.

Actually, Caldera DR-DOS is not a bad choice - I spend most of my time in
DOS and only "upgraded" :-) to Win95 because newer versions of the
programs I use only came in 95 editions.

> We need a new command shell - bash comes to mind.  Maybe I'll make time
> to write it, or start a development team...

4DOS is excellent, also on the palmtop. I also got the Korn Shell
installed and it does everything you'd want it to and runs reasonably fast
on the LX. 4DOS has better filename completion, though.

Why don't you give 4DOS or ksh a shot? Personally I'd go for 4DOS (well, I
already did :-), since you don't need a lot of additional utilites - you
do with ksh (things such as dir/ls and copy/cp are not built-in).


Cheers,

Laust

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On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> (b) The P5 runs a specialised OS (which is better than DOS) but simply
> does not have access to the depth and breadth of software. It's not
> just PROLOG... it's every language and every software you can imagine.
> I bet you can get very good quality smalltalk and Ada for DOS if you
> want. Not even C is available for P5.
The Psion software market is growing. AFAIK, the Psion has more shareware
than the CE units and I believe the machine is faster too. It looks better
anyway...

> ÝThough P5 has a spectrum emulator, and C compilers *are* available for
> that. This doesn't count!¨
They're not worth much either...

> This is due to DOS being a very popular and general OS for over
> a decade. A specialised OS just can't compete, no matter how good it is.
> Imagine a program, and it probably exists for DOS, better than your
> conception.

A specialized OS would stand a better chance if it was well documented,
perhaps with an "on the unit" SDK?

> > >...can the HP run OPL?
> > OPL is one of the worst dialog of Basic.
> OPL is not compiled, so not only is it obtuse and non-portable, it's
> also slow. I mean, it's good that they have it, but it is ridiculous to
> compare this with the wealth of languages available for DOS.

If the machine is fast enough it doesn't really matter if the language is
slow.. I still remember how the computer magazines raved about the Acorn
Archimedes when it came out; it was so fast that the programs could be
written almost entirely in BASIC! :-)

Still, it is true that it is non-portable.

> OTOH, there is *talk* of java for P5 (as there is for WinCE). But this
> talk has been around for a bit now, and java is a nice, but *slowww*
> language - a valid design choice for its purposes.

What Psion need to do is release some information about the internals of
the P5. That is the only way more programming languages will appear.
Afterall, all you need is an "on the unit" assembler for the P5 and then
you can create all the other languages from that :-)

Just imagine... Linux on the P5 (and probably fast!)
(But with the speed with which new ports of Linux appear, the P5 will
probably be obsolete before a port will be finished ;-) - ELKS isn't even
finished yet!)


> (d) The P5 is a more advanced machine. HP should have produced an
> equivalent, enchanced hp200lx. And we've not happy about it.

A new palmtop already? my 200LX isn't even a year old!

> <speculation>
> Another general OS that is already available for a RISC processor would
> be the way to go: lots of software available. Some unices fit this bill...
> </speculation>
Agreed!


Cheers,

Laust
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I don't think out of memory errors would be a problem if WE could run on
nitrous oxide!

Larry

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:18:49 -0500 Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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>Now if we can can only rig this gadget to run on nitrous oxide <g>.
>
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Do you happen to have the case citation for this?  What state, city,
year, and parties were involved?  You got the law student in me curious;
I used to have quite a collection of software copyright cases.

Larry

On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:37:25 -0800 "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:

>I think if you do it without permission from the owner it is
>illegal no matter how much time passes. A friend assumed (the
>killer) that some software he had for 10 years and no contact
>with published and author (they never replied) was abandoned.
>He distributed it to approx. 200 people in a business context.
>The lawsuit came fast and furious. He wiggled and wiggled, and
>lost it court, and on appeal. They collected more than you can
>iamagine, even though the part he distributed was not
>profitting him.
>
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> >Gentlemen, I believe that the tone of this debate is completely
> >inappropriate for this mailing list.<snip>
> >
> >Agree, but would like to exchange the word "tone" for "content".
> >
> > this is an HP discussion group.
>  ********************************

 yepper... dat be true...

> >
> >Phil
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Subject:      ann:  xlisp 21g for windows ce now available
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this is now available on tom almy's site:

http://www.teleport.com/~almy/xlisp.html

comments are welcome (probably to me, not to tom :)!

-geo
****************************************************************
i've got some windows ce software to GIVE away!  (this may look
familiar - i offered this in december and then discovered the gc bug
described below.  i didn't get a lot of response anyway :-}.)

here's the deal:

1) xlisp version 2.1g.  i used the xlisp 1.6 ported by mark oskin as a
starting point.  version 2.1g is quite a bit more like common lisp.
it includes, for instance, the lambda list extensions (e.g.
&optional, &rest), macros, backquote, format, separate namespaces for
functions and symbol values, etc.

the first handheld program i wrote was an astronomy program (see
below).  this turned out to be a lot more convenient to use if lisp
had some idea of what the time and date were.  so i added these
functions plus a couple of others to the xlisp code.  here they are:

(time)       returns the time as a fixnum:  hhmmss
(date)       returns the date as a fixnum:  yyyymmdd
(seed <n>)   seed the random number generator with a fixnum <n>,
             returns <n>
(sleep <n>)  sleeps for <n> (a fixnum) milliseconds, returns nil

the rest is as documented by david betz, tom almy, and luke tierney.

i also extended the printf that mark wrote to handle more (not all
yet) settings for the *float-format* and *integer-format* variables.

technical note: i had a real tough time getting a particular bug out
of this program.  the xlsave and the xlsave1 macros are supposed to
protect things from the garbage collector.  however, the visual c++
compiler in release mode decided to optimize away the part where the
protected value gets set to NIL.  this causes horrible and sporadic
garbage collector bugs.  since i have 95, not nt, i'm stuck with
"printf debugging" (the remote debugging only works on nt).  wah wah
wah :-).  turning off optimizations fixed the problem.

2) the astronomy program is an xlisp implementation of most of peter
duffett-smith's book, "practical astronomy with your calculator, 3e",
including the matrix manipulation.  sun, moon, and planet positions
can be calculated.  it's a work in progress -- i haven't added setting
and rising calculations yet -- have fun!

3) i also have an xlisp science fiction story writing program that
originally implemented a gahan wilson story and was subsequently
modified by me, tim finin, and evelyn orr.

other xlisp compatible programs and documentation are available from
the xlisp web site:

http://www.teleport.com/~almy/xlisp.html

if i get much of a response to this, i'll look into posting the code
on a windows ce friendly web site.


-geo
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At 06:12 PM 2/24/1998 -0800, you wrote:
     Microsoft actually makes a big deal internally about making sure
>apps run without the mouse. Just a week or two ago I was up in Redmond and I
>saw posters saying "have you tried using your app without a mouse recently?"

________________________________________________________
I know what you mean about hardwire to the fingers- Our spreadsheet std has
been Lotus for 12+ years - It's irritating as HECK to have to move my hands
to the mouse halfway thru "lotus Classic" menu commands to block
effeciently only to go back to the keyboard to complete a string of
commands.  even with Ver 5/97 I've lost efficiency over the "old way"

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Subject:      Mouselessness...

   >I know what you mean about hardwire to the fingers- Our spreadsheet
   >std has been Lotus for 12+ years - It's irritating as HECK to have
   >to move my hands to the mouse halfway thru "lotus Classic" menu
   >commands to block effeciently only to go back to the keyboard to
   >complete a string of commands.  even with Ver 5/97 I've lost
   >efficiency over the "old way"

Have you tried F4? Block, press enter and do a series of
instructions/formatting to the range...

HTH
David Lawrence
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   >Have you tried F4? Block, press enter and do a series of
   >instructions/formatting to the range...
   >HTH
   >David Lawrence
   >katana@clear.net.nz
   >Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

Ooops! i forgot to mention, when pressing F4, you then need to use the
arrow keys to expand the range and then press enter to establish it.
You can also press backspace to un-anchor the corner and move the
highlight before pressing . (period) to anchor it and so on. You can
also press . (period) repetitvely to move CLOCK-WISE around the range
before the final anchor.

HTH
David Lawrence
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>That reminds me of a programming language I heard about long ago: its error
>messages were POLITE ("sorry to bother you, but your program has just
>tried to divide an integer by zero, would you please be so kind to
>review it?") Don't remember the name...


I seem to remember the Sord micro from donkeys years ago came with a polite
operating system because the Japanese were put off by brutally curt
imperative messages such as "Ready" or "Press Enter"


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Subject:      ABC/LX & NiMH Batteries

I have read the previous posts about having to condition metal hydide
batteries and after using a pair of the Times2 Tech batteries for a week or
so, I ran auto tune in ABC/LX and after the process have found that the
configuration has changed quite a bit. The stop charging at voltage has gone
from 2.71 volts to 2.81 volts. I wonder how long it takes these high
capacity (1350 mAH) batteries to to be totally 'broken in'?

Jeff

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Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> I have read the previous posts about having to condition metal hydide
> batteries and after using a pair of the Times2 Tech batteries for a week or
> so, I ran auto tune in ABC/LX and after the process have found that the
> configuration has changed quite a bit. The stop charging at voltage has gone
> from 2.71 volts to 2.81 volts. I wonder how long it takes these high
> capacity (1350 mAH) batteries to to be totally 'broken in'?

Jeff: in order to be fully charged, the batteries should be at or over 2.90
volts for several hours.  I just set the stall time to 16 hours and the stall
voltage to an impossibly-high 3.3 volts, thus guaranteeing a long, high
charging rate.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:18:09 GMT
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Oooops, A slight correction to my last post...


I can get **4** GP NiMH 1300mah 1.2 volt cells locally for $20.00
canadian excluding GST tax...

The place is called Battery Plus @ 403-471-6582=20

This is not an ad, I don't work for them but wanted to enlighten the
user base...

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:48:57 -0800
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Avi wrote:

<< The implementation is as an F: drive, which must be
initialized the forst time with a program, then the driver is
loaded in CONFIG.SYS, then the srive names are swapped, so C:
becomes F: and F: becomes C:. Filer sees the 32MB. It takes a
moment more to scan the drive, but not anything that is
bothersome. >>


I wonder if this rules out the EXP flashmodem cards for use with the
upgrade.  The flash portion of the card uses a driver in config.sys to
set
itself up as F:.

I guess if I had 32 meg on board I'd have less need for the extra flash
on
the the EXP, but still...
Wonder if there is any way around this.

--Tim in Frisco

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:07:16 -0800
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Tim Ingham wrote:
>
> I wonder if this rules out the EXP flashmodem cards for use with the
> upgrade.  The flash portion of the card uses a driver in config.sys to
> set
> itself up as F:.

The ram driver will configure it for the last drive letter available.  Not
necessarily F:, but this is usually the first driver letter available.  Plus it
then swaps the F: and C: drives, so your 32MB drive becomes C: and the smaller
drive (whatever you have on the motherboard... 1 or 2MB) becomes F:.
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To whoever may be able to help,

I have come to rely on my 200LX heavily in my medical practice.  However, the medical applications that were available when I bought my 200LX 1.5 years ago are apparently no longer available now that I'm ready for them:

1. Physicians' Medical Reference (5 Minute Clinical Consult, Lexi-Comp Drug Information Handbook formerly offered by the now defunct Prolifix
2. Drug Database, Pharmaceuticals, Patient Management, and Patient History by Computerbooks (formerly offered by Educalc)

If anyone has a copy of either of the these programs, or is aware of any medical applications that are not outrageously priced, I would appreciate some help.  Thanks.

Aaron Billin

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        With talk of new 32MB RAM updates, anyone know if any work is being done
on the processor speed side of things?  I do realize that whereas RAM is
RAM, speed upgrades have the problem of added heat to deal with... but I
imagine that something could be done about it so perhaps there are such
things in development?

        Chris Pimlott

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:56:52 -0800
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Chris Pimlott wrote:
>
> With talk of new 32MB RAM updates, anyone know if any work is being done
> on the processor speed side of things?  I do realize that whereas RAM is
> RAM, speed upgrades have the problem of added heat to deal with... but I
> imagine that something could be done about it so perhaps there are such
> things in development?


Nope.  It's not so much the heat issue as the external components of the CPU.
The CPU could probably run safely at 60MHz+ with the modern manufacturing they
use to put it together.  The problem with going much past 32MHz is that the
external components, such as the screen, the serial port, the PCMCIA socket,
etc. become less and less stable and finally unable to keep up.

So a higher speed upgrade is not likely without major redesign of the machine.
:-(

On the other hand, 36MHz has been done, but there are reports of the serial
port malfunctioning...
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David,

What about the maximum charge time?

I am also breaking in a set of Time2 Tech NiMHs.

The first charge went to 2.9v and lasted only 12 hours under moderate use.

While charging the second time the battery stalled at 2.7v after 14 hours.  I put it
back on the charger the next night for 7 hours and it reached 2.9v in about 5 hours.


Michael

--- On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:58:43 -0800  David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> wrote:

>Jeff Johns wrote:
>>
>> I have read the previous posts about having to condition metal hydide
>> batteries and after using a pair of the Times2 Tech batteries for a week or
>> so, I ran auto tune in ABC/LX and after the process have found that the
>> configuration has changed quite a bit. The stop charging at voltage has gone
>> from 2.71 volts to 2.81 volts. I wonder how long it takes these high
>> capacity (1350 mAH) batteries to to be totally 'broken in'?
>
>Jeff: in order to be fully charged, the batteries should be at or over 2.90
>volts for several hours.  I just set the stall time to 16 hours and the stall
>voltage to an impossibly-high 3.3 volts, thus guaranteeing a long, high
>charging rate.
>--
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:04:15 -0600
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I finally received my two new power transformers from Plug Power.
These supplies are really neat and small! You can plug as many
of them as you want into a power strip or outlet - you no longer need
to lose an outlet when you plug in your adaptor. The website and
e-mail address for them is:

http://www.plugpwr.com
service@plugpwr.com

They helped me determine the connector that we need for the palmtop,
based on some measurements I made on mine in our company's machine
shop. Here's the scoop on the connector (these quotes are from my
correspondence with Plug Power):

"The connector is generically known as a 2.1mm DC Power Plug.  The
center hole is 2.1 mm , the O.D. is 5.5 mm and the metal part of the
plug is 9 mm long.

"This connector is widely available at many electronics parts
sources. Radio Shack stores often stock them. A good source for
these connectors (among many other things...) is Mouser Electronics.
They have several types on Page 131 of their current catalog (#593).

And here's the information on the entire power supply assembly:

"Lastly I made new part number for the power supply with the
171-3217 Mouser connector attached and the Center Negative wiring for
the HP 200LX to simplify future ordering:  LV10-12-2.1mm   @ $29.95
each + shipping.


-Chris Lott

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At 02:38 26/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
>        With talk of new 32MB RAM updates, anyone know if any work is
being done
>on the processor speed side of things?  I do realize that whereas RAM is
>RAM, speed upgrades have the problem of added heat to deal with... but I
>imagine that something could be done about it so perhaps there are such
>things in development?

No way. Heat is not a problem. The Hornet chip is still far away from
nowadays power hungry pentiums.

The problem is the processor design (which is old) and the speed it was
designe for.

The Hornet IC was designed to work at a few different frequencies, 31.some
MHz is the highest. Pushing it beyond would be overclocking, and as it is
not internally ready to work at that frequency, a lot of hacks have to be
done in order for the rest of clock-dependant peripheals to work properly.

Regards. Nacho.

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Chris Pimlott wrote:
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>         With talk of new 32MB RAM updates, anyone know if any work is
> being done
> on the processor speed side of things?  I do realize that whereas RAM

UUhh!!! I love the idea

Serge

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:03:48 +0000
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On 1925- 0-We HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >The driver takes up just over 500 bytes of memory.  It's tiny.  It
   >should also be noted that the driver for the 32MB RAM disk is about
   >twice as= fast
   >as the normal BIOS driver.  In other words, a 32MB disk benchmarks
   >twice as fast when copying, etc.

A win-win upgrade? Low impact on battery and available memory and faster.

Sounds like I should start saving my money. I wonder why all that memory
in the LX reminds me of the song about the ant and the rubberplant <g>.

- Longden

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:03:55 +0000
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On 1925- 0-We HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >And by the way, it is Mack who offers the 32MB upgrade.  The other
   >distributors get it from him.  Times2 Tech is the source of all. <g>

Should we re-designate Mack and his distributors as "Team 260LX"? (with
apologies to the creator of that phrase).

- Longden

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On 1998-02-26 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >>Have you tried F4? Block, press enter and do a series of
   >>instructions/formatting to the range...
   >>David Lawrence
   >>katana@clear.net.nz
   >>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

   >Ooops! i forgot to mention, when pressing F4, you then need to use
   >the arrow keys to expand the range and then press enter to
   >establish it. You can also press backspace to un-anchor the corner
   >and move the highlight before pressing . (period) to anchor it and
   >so on. You can also press . (period) repetitvely to move CLOCK-WISE
   >around the range before the final anchor.
   >HTH
   >David Lawrence
   >katana@clear.net.nz
   >Net-Tamer V 1.09  - Test Drive

David,

How come you're test driving BOTH NT 1.08/1.09?

Other topic...How do you "ride a range" in Excel? Lotus was End-Cursor.

- Longden

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:04:09 +0000
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On 1998-02-25 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Jeff: in order to be fully charged, the batteries should be at or
   >over 2.90 volts for several hours.  I just set the stall time to 16
   >hours and the stall voltage to an impossibly-high 3.3 volts, thus
   >guaranteeing a long, high charging rate.

Now I've always wanted to try that....but I never found the guts! All that
talk about NiMH's blowing away from an overcharge...is that myth?

- Longden

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:04:15 +0000
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On 1998-02-26 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >With talk of new 32MB RAM updates, anyone know if any work is being
   >done on the processor speed side of things?  I do realize that
   >whereas RAM is RAM, speed upgrades have the problem of added heat
   >to deal with... but I imagine that something could be done about it
   >so perhaps there are such things in development?

A valid point and one of my concerns also. Tho as another poster pointed
out, maybe it'd be easier to upgrade the user (nitrous oxide) so they'd
FEEL like the machine was going faster <g>.

- Longden

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> Other topic...How do you "ride a range" in Excel? Lotus was End-Cursor.

In Excel, you can only do this within a single column - in other
words, END-CURSOR will take you to the end of a single column/row.
However, the really useful feature I find in Lotus is being able to
move over to an adjacent column, END-CURSOR down to its end, then
cursor back, thus highlighting a column of equal length to its
neighbor. Alas, this doesn't work in Excel - when you cursor over to
an adjacent column and END-CURSOR down, you go to the very end of the
spreadsheet, row number 16K. They got rid of a *very* useful feature,
IMHO...

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:05:00 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Basic Programing on the 200LX

Don't know how apropriate it is for text adventures but... I've used
ASIC 5.0. It's a somewhat kludgey and limited version of basic,
however, the nice thing about it is how it compiles. It doesn't link
libraries into the final executable but (I think) directly converts
besic commands to equivalent assembly mnuenomics. The result is a VERY
small executable. It also fits in about 400k with help files. Nice
 feature for these machines.

On 1998-02-23 bwh@NETZONE.COM said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Hi, whats the best Basic compiler for the 200LX ??
   >I've seen or heard about QBasic, First Basic and VB for DOS - which
   >is the best for a intermediate level programer wanting to write a
   >text adventure (few graphics) for the 200LX ?? Whats the best book
   >on the subject.
   >Thanks for your inputs,
   >Brian

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:05:10 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Wanted: Dosshell

I downloaded it from www.microsoft.com. You may be able to search
there. It's a slow site though. They use strictly Windows NT and it's
too slow to keep up. Many times (for over a year now!)  I've gotten:

"HTTP 1.0 Server too busy"

That's pretty crappy, huh?

But, they do have DS for download.



G'luck


On 1998-02-24 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Hiya,
   >I wanted to try out Dosshell on the LX, but I coudln't find it on
   >any of my computers. It seems MS-DOS 6 removed it when I upgraded..
   >I know DOS 5 is availiable as "abandonware", but it is over a
   >megabyte in size and I only need/want Dosshell.
   >Would some kind soul please send me a copy (or give me a link)?
   >Regards,
   >Laust
   >--
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:04:50 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Nettamer Virgin wants to loose virginity!
Comments: To: store4u@troutsegall.com

I'll try to be gentle ;-)


It's probably the login script you're using. There are 4 login scripts
that come with NT and each works with different ISPs. I believe there
are more available on David Colston's web site. Find out if you have
the right script for you particular ISP. You may need to write one.

BTW, the login script is the "servicex.log" next to the dialin phone
number.


Good luck.


On 1998-02-23 store4u@troutsegall.com said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I am trying to get Nettamer up and running for the first time.
   >Following the directions, it appears I have everything configured
   >properly. When I attempt to connect, I get the "Dialing
   >xxx-xxx-xxxx ..." message at the bottom of the screen, but nothing
   >happens. I never connect.
   >My equip. is as follows:
   >HP 200LX 2mb, Motorola Power Cellular/Fax PC-Card modem, Nettamer
   >installed on a 40mb Flash card.
   >Just before dialing, power down and swap flash card for modem.
   >Do I have this set up properly? Can someone give me an alternative
   >setup? I tried putting Nettamer on my C:, but it is too large.
   >Any help would be appreciated.
   >Alex Arancio
   >Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC
   >Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
   >Discount Long Distance - Free Web Site for Agents - Earn Commission
   >off of your OWN phone bill - Commercial - Residential - 800 Service
   >Visit Telecom-Pros http://www.telecom-pros.com/members/alex

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Comments: To: Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Chris Lott wrote:

> > Other topic...How do you "ride a range" in Excel? Lotus was End-Cursor.
>
> In Excel, you can only do this within a single column - in other
> words, END-CURSOR will take you to the end of a single column/row.
> However, the really useful feature I find in Lotus is being able to
> move over to an adjacent column, END-CURSOR down to its end, then
> cursor back, thus highlighting a column of equal length to its
> neighbor. Alas, this doesn't work in Excel - when you cursor over to
> an adjacent column and END-CURSOR down, you go to the very end of the
> spreadsheet, row number 16K. They got rid of a *very* useful feature,

Thanks. I did use that feature alot. They (Lotus) have had it since 1.x.

Guess it didn't fit into the MS vision of how we should do things.

OTOH, maybe another Excel user can suggest a workaround (privately via
email is fine...this is rather off-topic).

- Longden

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Have tried to make prompt changes in dos to show time and date in upper right
corner of screen. tried ansi,nansi pansi sys files  but the box doesn't move
time and date only displays the string  on the screen in the prompt line is
there a special way to enter escape clauses in your boot files.? Tx Roy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:26:13 -0500
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Subject:      32MB Upgrade
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<A MODE=REALITY CHECK>
Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get 32MB
as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is modem
access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
</A>

<BOLD>
STI-ATAFL/32 32MB F/ATA FLASH CARD I HPC
Price:           $207.95
http://www.necx.com
</BOLD>

     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:59:07 EST
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From:         Cathy Schlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 32MB Upgrade
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Hi, I was anxious to check out your info....HOWEVER, when I tried to track it
down, I found the following location:

 <A HREF="http://necxdirect.necx.com:8002/cgi-
bin/auth/ifilelnk_q?key=0000115550&nonce=guest">NECX Product: STI-ATAFL/32
32MB F/ATA FLASH C...</A>

and it tells me they are out of stock and NOT AVAILABLE...   :-((

Cathy

  In a message dated 98-02-26 10:32:36 EST, you write:

<<
 <A HREF="">
 Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get 32MB
 as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is modem
 access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
 </A>

 <BOLD>
 STI-ATAFL/32 32MB F/ATA FLASH CARD I HPC
 Price:           $207.95
 http://www.necx.com
 </BOLD>

      G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A >>

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:59:31 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 32MB Upgrade
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jay Gates wrote:

> Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get 32MB
> as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is modem
> access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.

A good point.

OTOH, if you are wont to using EMS and all kinds of things needing swap
space, the pace of life would be faster using on-board ram vs a flash card
(and easier on your batteries).

If you moved alot of your heavy apps from the flash card to internal, they
would also load faster.  True that NT can run from a 1-2mb LX internal
drive, but then you have to swap modem and flash cards whenever you want
to do NT or non-NT work. A 32mb space means you can likely keep most of
your apps on-board, keep the modem card in the slot, and maybe just carry
the flash card as a backup. IOW, it means less card-swapping.

True, the benefits aren't without qualification (depends on each person).

Also, a modem in the card slot all the time is a power draw in itself (I
think).

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:49:26 EST
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              Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Function Keys

Hey HP programmers:

Is there an INT 5F routine to set the labels inside SysMgr? I looked at
PAL to see how it does it, and it basically saves the screen state,
blacks out the key, and then rewrites it. I am writing an ASM utility,
and wondered if there is an easier way.

Thanks for any help.

Brian

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:49:26 EST
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              Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      INTERNET Access

Hello Everyone.

I am very interested in gaining INTERNET access for email with my HPLX. I
have everything I think I need, including 5 Meg internal memory, double
speed CPU, and a PCMCIA modem. What I lack is the software, and further,
the initiative to try any of the several options out there. I would like
to get one thing, make sure it works, and then use it. To that end, I
propose:

ANOTHER SURVEY!!!!!


Please email me (not the list, no need to tie up any more bandwidth than
is already wasted) if you are using your HPLX  ON A DAILY BASIS to access
email. Emphasis is to make the point that if you don't find it easy
enough to do daily, I'd probably just stick to a desktop. If you don't
check your email on weekends, that's ok <g>.

If you fall into this category, please send me the following info:

1. HPLX configuration (100/200, x2, memory)
2. Hardware (Internal PCMCIA, External Modem, Link to Desktop)
3. Software (NetTamer, WWW/LX, Other)
4. ISP (I don't really want the name - what I am interested in is it a
dedicated ISP for HPLX connectivity, or is it your home account that you
also use for access, a local BBS, your work account, etc.)
5. How long an average connection cycle takes per day. If you could
qualify this with a byte measure of items download, it would probably be
a better metric.

If I get a relevant number of replies (My preliminary hope is for 20),
I'll gather the results up and post them to the HPLX list and the SUPER
site.

Thanks for the data!

Brian

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:18:07 -0800
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From:         "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 32MB Upgrade
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> Hi, I was anxious to check out your info....HOWEVER, when I tried to track it
> down, I found the following location:
>
>  <A HREF="http://necxdirect.necx.com:8002/cgi-
> bin/auth/ifilelnk_q?key=0000115550&nonce=guest">NECX Product: STI-ATAFL/32
> 32MB F/ATA FLASH C...</A>
>
> and it tells me they are out of stock and NOT AVAILABLE...   :-((

http://www.isn.com (Internet Shopping Network) says the same for the 32mb,
but says they have 2 left of the 40mb for $270.99 (as of 5 min ago).

Look in the computer superstore section/memory & processors/PCMCIA memory
cards

Card is STI-ATAFL/40.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:37:57 -0500
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> <A MODE=3DREALITY CHECK>
> Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get=
 32MB
> as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is=
 modem
> access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
> </A>

It's true, the price is rather high.  I should point out one thing,=
 and
that is that the $500 price includes the memory upgrade and speed upgrade. =

 It's not much of a difference, but I just wanted to make that clear.

As far as 32MB cards go, you can actually get a Microtech 32MB CF card
with adapter for $186.  Try http://www.firstsource.com and do a search=
 for
it.

The internal RAM upgrade is great, because it's twice as fast as the
built-in RAM and therefore much faster than a flash card.  It takes=
 up
much less power as well, and now I can download mail and newsgroups=
 with
wild abandon with my PCMCIA modem and Post/LX.  For example, I used=
 to
(with my 6MB unit) delete my mail folder at about 300K of so, or I'd=
 run
out of space.  But NOW, it'S way over two megs and climbing!

I already have two 40MB flash cards and a 32MB card.  They're great,=
 but a
lot of time I will have them in my palmtop's case and not directly
accessible.  Now that I have a lot of internal RAM, I can save all my
documents to the RAM drive and run all my most commonly used (but large)
programs from there instead of having to root around in my bag and undo=
 a
few velcro straps during, say, a lecture.  Plus applications run
significantly faster from the C: drive, particularly those that use=
 disk
swapping of some sort.  My 14MB American Heritage Dictionary can finally
reside on the unit itself, instead of on a slower flash card.

With the advent of this upgrade, the 200LX truly becomes a self-contained
computer that can handle anything you want on it.  Now, if only the=
 64MB
and 128MB upgrades would come out... <g>

(Just for clarification, there really is no 64MB or 128MB upgrade...=
 yet.)

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:58:31 -0800
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Subject:      CPACK and Windows 95...
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Has anyone been able to figure out how to get CPACK to run as a "windowed"
application under Windows 95?  I had done it once, but got a new workstation
at work, and lost the setup.  :(  Now I can't seem to figure it out.  Barring that,
does anyone know how to make customized phonebook databases work in the
OB6DSK Phone Book app?

Thanks,
Bill Childers

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:18:52 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Bill:

> Has anyone been able to figure out how to get CPACK to run as a "windowed"
> application under Windows 95?

I have it working on my '95 machine at home. Also my NT machine here
at work. I'll try to get the Shortcut settings tonight and send them
to you.

> does anyone know how to make customized phonebook databases work in
> the OB6DSK Phone Book app?

I, too, wish the OB6DSK phone book app could use customized data
bases. Or how about a plain database windows app? Does such an animal
exist?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:24:02 -0000
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: INTERNET Access

Hello Brian,

see my answers inline and at the end...

BE>I am very interested in gaining INTERNET access for email with my HPLX. I
  >have everything I think I need, including 5 Meg internal memory, double
  >speed CPU, and a PCMCIA modem. What I lack is the software, and further,
  >the initiative to try any of the several options out there. I would like
  >to get one thing, make sure it works, and then use it. To that end, I
  >propose:

BE>ANOTHER SURVEY!!!!!
<snip>

BE>If you fall into this category, please send me the following info:

BE>1. HPLX configuration (100/200, x2, memory)
200lx, x2, 8meg ram

  >2. Hardware (Internal PCMCIA, External Modem, Link to Desktop)
external modem, 5meg pcmcia card (though I don't really need it since I
upgraded RAM to 8megs), serial cable

  >3. Software (NetTamer, WWW/LX, Other)

1st Reader (see www.sparkware.com, or www.airpower.com/airpower.html)

  >4. ISP (I don't really want the name - what I am interested in is it a
  >dedicated ISP for HPLX connectivity, or is it your home account that you
  >also use for access, a local BBS, your work account, etc.)

It's AirPower Information Services, a local BBS (which I own and
operate)

  >5. How long an average connection cycle takes per day. If you could
  >qualify this with a byte measure of items download, it would probably be
  >a better metric.

2 minutes.  Not just for me but for all my customers on average, which
is why I also have LONG DISTANCE customers.  This is the time it takes
to log on, download a qwkmail packet, upload replies, and log off.

To expand, besides email, these qwkmail packets include a variety of
various conferences (echoes) we carry.  We carry about 800 different
ones, from Fidonet, Paul Revere Net, SeekNet, SurvNet, Intelec, plus
selected newsgroups and email lists which are also converted to
conference format.  Thus, the HPLX-L list is conference 101, totally
separate from Internet email.  Average user seems to take about a dozen
different conferences in addition to local and Internet email.

I can't say enough about 1st Reader.  Whether or not you would choose
my BBS, you can find out more about it from www.sparkware.com. It's
only $10 to register, but I own a site license for it so I can give it
away free.  If you'd like to check it out you will find it available
for download at http://www.airpower.com/airpower.html.  It's a comm
program. It's a mail reader, with database built in. There are also
lots of free add-ons available, a spell-checker among them.
Also, it does your sessions automatically, unattended, for minimum
connect time.  It runs on DOS, Windows, WFWG, W95, and also Windows NT
but I have had problems using a mouse with it and Windows NT.

Regards,

Jim

 * 1st 2.00 ~ The difference between doing it and not doing it is doing it

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 (Jim Henry)
         AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193
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FREE copy of 1st Reader! http://www.airpower.com/airpower.html

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Hi Group

Anybody know if there is a HP-48 emulator availible for the 200LX? Thanks. =


John

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Thanks for the info, Chris.

John

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Subject:      ITNERNET Access (continued)

One more thing -
I remember seeing on the WEB an ad for a service which allowed use of the
ccMail program for INTERNET access. I am partiuclarly interested if
anyone has used this method, and if they are satisfied with the
cost/service aspect.

Thanks again.

Brian

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I'm sortof in agreement.  What real value would I get for a $500.00 memory
upgrade to my HP200LX?
That's alot of money to put out for something that you can get in a
flashcard for less than half the price,
 even if the access speed is faster.   Then I've got to weigh that against
the value of purchasing something like a
Libretto that has a Pentium and lot's of options (granted that I would have
to add more $$$ to get the
Libretto).  I guess that we all have our reason's for spending money and
each of us receives value in
different ways.  I've been really struggling with justifying the $249.00
price for the 8 meg upgrade.  Looks
like the 4Mx16 DRAMs go for around $45.00 ea. or less in quantity.
Jim J.






gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA on 02/26/98 10:26:13 AM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
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<A MODE=REALITY CHECK>
Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get 32MB
as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is modem
access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
</A>
<BOLD>
STI-ATAFL/32 32MB F/ATA FLASH CARD I HPC
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I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to speed up my
data file access... currently, if I enter a record in my appointment
book, it literally takes 8 seconds between the time I press F10 to
save and when I am able to do my next activity. Kind of agravating
when I have several records to enter in a row.

I have been toying with the idea of getting a Times2Tech speed
upgrade, partly due to the rave reviews of late (customer satisfaction
will always be my main reference!), but still can't help to believe
there may be some other things I can do.

I tried purging all records except for this year's, but still have the
same timing results.

Thanks for any suggestions.

==
Mark J. Jordan
Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:13:41 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Mark Jordan wrote:

> I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to speed up my
> data file access... currently, if I enter a record in my appointment
> book, it literally takes 8 seconds between the time I press F10 to
> save and when I am able to do my next activity. Kind of agravating
> when I have several records to enter in a row.

Where is your Appt.adb file located? On the C drive...or on a slow flash
card? That would make a difference.

- Longden

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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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You might try to "prune" the past data.  Use the Extract Items function
and extract to another file.  The items will still be available, just in
a different .ADB file.

Phil

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>

Irrestible, sorry.

>     18. In Gates we Ýmis-¨trust.

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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:26:13 -0500, Jay Gates <gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA> =
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ga> <A MODE=3DREALITY CHECK>
ga> Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get =
32MB
ga> as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is =
modem
ga> access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
ga> </A>

I was beginning to wonder if i were the only one not seeing any real
benefit here. <g> Just thinking about 32mb worth of _volatile_ storage
makes me cringe....

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> I was beginning to wonder if i were the only one not seeing any real
> benefit here. <g> Just thinking about 32mb worth of _volatile_ storage
> makes me cringe....

That's the only problem with it.  The only way to backup 32MB reliably=
 is
to get a huge flash card, or to do a parallel port backup.  But such=
 is
the price paid for progress. <g>

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With various replies I've gotten concerning the T2T NiMH batteries and
ABC/LX software, is it safe to assume that ABC can't automatically handle
the charging of the batteries and I'm better off just to use the software to
keep the charging active for about 16 hours?

Jeff
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v0.04alpha) REGISTERED

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Greetings,

        Just figure adding a 32 meg flash card to the cost of the upgrade.
It's cheap for what it does.

Colin

> > I was beginning to wonder if i were the only one not seeing any real
> > benefit here. <g> Just thinking about 32mb worth of _volatile_ storage
> > makes me cringe....
>
> That's the only problem with it.  The only way to backup 32MB reliably is
> to get a huge flash card, or to do a parallel port backup.  But such is
> the price paid for progress. <g>
>

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I've got a need to pick up a Drive100... for use with my Sony Digital Camera (it uses 3.5" floppies
as film).  My intent is to use the camera to shoot pictures while on vacation, the use my 200LX and
the Drive100 to upload those pics to a web site so family members can see what's going on.

With EduCalc gone, where are these things available?

Thanks,
Bill Childers

PS: Sorry for the Junk in the Message.... that's a "benefit" of using MS Outlook.  I'm gonna switch
back to Eudora at the first available opportunity.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:43:20 -0500
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 10:06 AM 26/02/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to speed up my
>data file access... currently, if I enter a record in my appointment

>I have been toying with the idea of getting a Times2Tech speed

I was having the same problems..   Turbocpu.com from super sped things up
somewhat..

Are you using the todo list in Appt book.. if so ToDo.gdb from super will
allieviate a lot of the time taken in apptbook..

as someone else suggested go for the file on your fastest drive...

Split the file into say 4 quarters or monthly...

There is a chance the file is damaged and the trusty palmtop is fighting to
maintain integrity of your data.. if so copy the appt.gdb from D: to another
directory and then data accross to that file.

There are too many optionns to make an educated assessment so the above
attempts to cover all bases..

What is the size of your Appt.gdb file? Curious.

Russell

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Hi

Does anyone have knowledge of how to reorder the order in the database
function or how the database organises the fields..

My reason for asking is to import via gdbio


It seems that reordering things on the screen has no relation to how the tab
key jumps from field to field or the order internally in the database..

I've read the manual...  No help unless I missed it..

Any help appreciated..

Russell

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Jeff,

I am starting to believe this is the way to go.

Currently using demo version of ABC/LX with new T2T NiHM's.  Nice graphics showing
voltage during charging.  However, you really end up just setting things up so that
the batteries are charging for 15-16 hours, regardless.

Might be better served to use BatSet set to 16 hours fast charge, like you said, and
monitor the battery voltage after charging.  If it seems low, give them another hit
the next day.

BTW, what is the Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX reference at the end of your message?

Michael

--- On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 15:29:58 -0600  Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

>With various replies I've gotten concerning the T2T NiMH batteries and
>ABC/LX software, is it safe to assume that ABC can't automatically handle
>the charging of the batteries and I'm better off just to use the software to
>keep the charging active for about 16 hours?
>
>Jeff
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v0.04alpha) REGISTERED
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:53:54 -0500
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The on screen position of the field does relate to the tab key function.

However, they can be misaligned vertically buy a very small amount (visually hard to
see), and cause the tab to look like it is jumping around out of order.

For fine adjustments, hold down the Shift key while positioning the field.

To check vertical alignment, I sometimes lay one field on top of the other to make
sure that they are aligned vertically.

--- On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:43:22 -0500  Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Does anyone have knowledge of how to reorder the order in the database
>function or how the database organises the fields..
>
>My reason for asking is to import via gdbio
>
>
>It seems that reordering things on the screen has no relation to how the tab
>key jumps from field to field or the order internally in the database..
>
>I've read the manual...  No help unless I missed it..
>
>Any help appreciated..
>
>Russell
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:50:00 -0800
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Brendan,

> The statutory period is presently 50 years after the death of the
> creator of the work.

There is your answer! It is clear concise, and unambiguous!

> Of course, it *is* hard to find software for which this period
> has expired; and therefore, in practical terms, you are perfectly
> correct.

Yes, all the authors who have written and published AFTER 1950
are still thus protected. I am sure that WAS PRECISELY the
intent of the Copyright _PROTECTION_.

It is almost like trying to find out which part of "no" is not
understood!
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:55:34 -0800
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Larry,

No, I haven't the legal casework. But I guarantee you that if
someone breaks the copyright of an author, such material will
be gathered, and thrown at the violator accompanied with a
nice lawsuit! <G>... This has happened before, and this will
happen again!

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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> With various replies I've gotten concerning the T2T NiMH batteries and
> ABC/LX software, is it safe to assume that ABC can't automatically handle
> the charging of the batteries and I'm better off just to use the software to
> keep the charging active for about 16 hours?

That's presuming that your batteries are low to begin with. Lots of times,
I may just top-off the batteries. 16 hours in those cases may be overkill
(literally).

You also have to keep in mind that as the batteries age and they start to
lose capacity, 16 hours may start to get excessive.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:55:42 -0800
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Hi Mr. Gates:

> <A MODE=3DREALITY CHECK>
> Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get =
32MB
> as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is =
modem
> access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
> </A>

Expansion time: C: drive is about 5-10 times fater than A:
drive. It also takes about 5-10 times less power.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:55:31 -0800
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Tim,

> << The implementation is as an F: drive, which must be
> initialized the forst time with a program, then the driver is
> loaded in CONFIG.SYS, then the srive names are swapped, so C:
> becomes F: and F: becomes C:. Filer sees the 32MB. It takes a
> moment more to scan the drive, but not anything that is
> bothersome. >>
>
> I wonder if this rules out the EXP flashmodem cards for use with the
> upgrade.  The flash portion of the card uses a driver in config.sys to
> set
> itself up as F:.

No. I tried it both ways: Loading LXMFMT first, then RD32.sys,
and the other way. Works wither way. Daniel Lgendre posted
that LXMFMT insists on formatting a F: drive, but I thought it
would work with LXMFMT G:, have not tried it.

The drivers load in seuence of CONFIG.SYS. The name-swap seeks
out the RD32 drive, then swaps names.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:55:36 -0800
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Longden,

> Very interesting Avi. How big is the driver (how much memory does it
> take away?)

RD32     SYS       648 01-14-98   4:39p
RD32INIT COM       345 01-14-98   4:39p
RD32SWAP COM       360 01-21-98   4:36p

RD32.Sys is the driver. Mack just made it even smaller, I
believe 464 bytes. RD32INIT.COM you use once to initialise the
C: drive (the 32mb). RD32SWAP name-swaps between F: (or G:)
and C:.

> The output of your 'mem /c' command would be useful.


Conventional Memory :

  Name                Size in Decimal       Size in Hex
-------------      ---------------------   -------------
  MSDOS              26544      ( 25.9K)       67B0
  SPD31                512      (  0.5K)        200
  RD32                 592      (  0.6K)        250
  COMMAND             2736      (  2.7K)        AB0
  CIC100              6912      (  6.8K)       1B00
  AVIHELV             6736      (  6.6K)       1A50
  QUICK              11152      ( 10.9K)       2B90
  ABCTSR              3904      (  3.8K)        F40

 .... Etc.


> Now if we can can only rig this gadget to run on nitrous oxide <g>.

There is a nuclear option coming out soon: Just one tiny drop
of Tritium and it runs for about 75,842.58 years at speeds
measured above 1485MHz --- (:-Q ... Delivery date Feb 31,
1999.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:55:39 -0800
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> What about Mack? That IS his moniker on your disk volume label <g>.

Check out that CHKDSK I posted! Mack (Times2Tech) makes
them.
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:40:48 -0800
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Educalc closed their doors just before the first of the year... they just haven't
changed the web page yet.  Try calling their number.  I wish that they were
still open... they were a great source for palmtop stuff.

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From:   Aaron Billin ÝSMTP:abillin@pol.net¨
Sent:   Thursday, February 26, 1998 2:29 PM
To:     Bill Childers
Subject:        Re:  Drive 100... Where can one be found?

What do you mean "with EduCalc gone"?  I visit their web site regularly.



------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
Originally From: Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:  Drive 100... Where can one be found?
Date: 02/26/98 01:45pm


I've got a need to pick up a Drive100... for use with my Sony Digital Camera (it uses 3.5" floppies
as film).  My intent is to use the camera to shoot pictures while on vacation, the use my 200LX and
the Drive100 to upload those pics to a web site so family members can see what's going on.

With EduCalc gone, where are these things available?

Thanks,
Bill Childers

PS: Sorry for the Junk in the Message.... that's a "benefit" of using MS Outlook.  I'm gonna switch
back to Eudora at the first available opportunity.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:43:55 -0500
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:06:44, Mark Jordan wrote:

> I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to speed up my
> data file access.

Take a look at page 11 of the September/October 1997 issue of The
Palmtop Paper. It talks about speeding up database files using a TSR
program called FASTDB its freeware and I think you can d/l it from
http://www.thaddeus.com. Maybe you can even get it at the SUPER SITE.

> I have been toying with the idea of getting a Times2Tech speed
> upgrade, partly due to the rave reviews of late (customer satisfaction
> will always be my main reference!

I think that the T2T speed upgrade is your best bet. I just placed my=
 order
for one a few days ago. (:-D

HTH
Regards,

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Chris Lott wrote:
>
> Bill:
>
> > Has anyone been able to figure out how to get CPACK to run as a "windowed"
> > application under Windows 95?
>
> I have it working on my '95 machine at home. Also my NT machine here
> at work. I'll try to get the Shortcut settings tonight and send them
> to you.


I would be interested in these settings too.  CPack works fine on my
WIN95 set, by I cannot run it in a window.

TIA,

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        I've had my spiffy new HP200LX for 72 hours now, and already I don't know
how I could do without it. I'm reading this digest every day, and have
downloaded the archives back to October. IMNERHO, this discussion group --
and related individual Web pages -- represent the best of everything the
World Wide Web/Internet has to offer.

        Thank you, one and all.


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The order of the fields on the screen does matter... the order is left
to right, then up to down.

Try moving the fields around... sometimes all it takes is on pixel up
or down or left or right to make the difference.

---Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Does anyone have knowledge of how to reorder the order in the database
> function or how the database organises the fields..
>
Ýsnip¨


==
Mark J. Jordan
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In a message dated 98-02-26 08:44:30 EST, you write:

<<
 Should we re-designate Mack and his distributors as "Team 260LX"? (with
 apologies to the creator of that phrase).
  >>
If Mack wants the "Team 260LX" designator, he will get no complaint from me
(the creator of the phrase.)   However, I sure wish he'd put the other
upgrades in, too.

    8¬)

lynn m. cavendish

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> > Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get 32MB
> > as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?
>
> C: drive is about 5-10 times fater than A: drive.


Regarding speed: the hp200lx has been reported to rival a 486 in speed.
How can this be?

The main reason I see is that *everything* is on a RAM disk. For disk
intensive work (databases, LaTeX, compiling etc) this has got to be
significant.  More internal RAM continues this advantage. Double speed
internal RAM is even better  :)

Of course, not everyone uses these applications, and so this advantage
does not apply to them. And further, $500 rivals the cost of a new hp200lx.
Then there's the PC110 and Libretto...

Such is the price of progress.


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
We shall not cease from exploration     And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started      And know the place for the first time.
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Maybe some one can help.

Last night, I knocked my 200lx (in a leather case) off the top of my
refrigerator, onto a hard floor.  At first I thought there was no damage at
all.  Runs just fine, thanks.  After a while, I noticed that the rounded
plastic cover of the hinge all the way across (above the key board, and below
the screen) had sprung loose on the key board side.

It appears that little teeth on the cover will simply hook into the basic
machine if I apply "enough" pressure.  Unfortunately, "enough" is "some" more
than I am comfortable applying without being sure that no hidden trick lies in
that direction.

I suspect that one or more people on this list have been down this road.  Do I
just push a little harder?  The left end is the area most unwilling to
cooperate, and there appears to be a little white something in approximately
the area where the insert on that end wants to be inserted.

All comments welcomed.

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i'll give it a try.  i've had the bottom off before.  i thought i was going to
install the 6 meg upgrade myself, but chickened out after seeing the job of
soldering the connector to the pads.  Soon as I can do a 100% back out, i'll
let you know how it went.

(a job for the week end.)

thanx,

lynn

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Hi David,

Who is offering the 32 meg. upgrade and how much??? Thanks...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: 32MB Upgrade


> <A MODE=REALITY CHECK>
> Why would I want to pay $500 for 32MB mod to my 200LX when I can get 32MB
> as my F: drive ( or A:) for $207?  The _only_ benefit I can see is modem
> access, and that ain't much when Nettamer installs on a 1-2MB machine.
> </A>

It's true, the price is rather high.  I should point out one thing, and
that is that the $500 price includes the memory upgrade and speed upgrade.
It's not much of a difference, but I just wanted to make that clear.

As far as 32MB cards go, you can actually get a Microtech 32MB CF card
with adapter for $186.  Try http://www.firstsource.com and do a search for
it.

The internal RAM upgrade is great, because it's twice as fast as the
built-in RAM and therefore much faster than a flash card.  It takes up
much less power as well, and now I can download mail and newsgroups with
wild abandon with my PCMCIA modem and Post/LX.  For example, I used to
(with my 6MB unit) delete my mail folder at about 300K of so, or I'd run
out of space.  But NOW, it'S way over two megs and climbing!

I already have two 40MB flash cards and a 32MB card.  They're great, but a
lot of time I will have them in my palmtop's case and not directly
accessible.  Now that I have a lot of internal RAM, I can save all my
documents to the RAM drive and run all my most commonly used (but large)
programs from there instead of having to root around in my bag and undo a
few velcro straps during, say, a lecture.  Plus applications run
significantly faster from the C: drive, particularly those that use disk
swapping of some sort.  My 14MB American Heritage Dictionary can finally
reside on the unit itself, instead of on a slower flash card.

With the advent of this upgrade, the 200LX truly becomes a self-contained
computer that can handle anything you want on it.  Now, if only the 64MB
and 128MB upgrades would come out... <g>

(Just for clarification, there really is no 64MB or 128MB upgrade... yet.)

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I add sup622.exe on my web page.
I downloaded it from Microsoft.
you will find all (I think) the files we don't have on the LX.
ex: dosshell, qbasic,...

regards
Al
Al
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Hi

Has anyone done an access to HPLX database conversion via gdbio or other?

Any help on proceedure used would be appreciated..

IE is it best to massage data to exactly replicate field structures in
access then use Gdbio or convert/massage once in the HPLX?

Thx in advance

Russell

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> I add sup622.exe on my web page.
> I downloaded it from Microsoft.
> you will find all (I think) the files we don't have on the LX.
> ex: dosshell, qbasic,...

> http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn
I got a File Not Found when I clicked on that link.



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Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> wrote:

> I've got a need to pick up a Drive100... for use with my Sony Digital
> Camera (it uses 3.5" floppies as film).

Hi Bill & group-

Drive100 is or was made by Sparcom.  AFAIK they are still in business.=

Not absolutely sure, tho.

I've been using one for about 3 years.  The manual has the following
contact info:
        Email  support@sparcom.com
        Snail-mail:
                Sparcom Corporation
                PO Box 927
                Corvallis OR  97339
        Tel: (503) 757-8416
        Fax: (503) 753-7821

Don't know if any of this is current.  Like I said, I got it about 3
years ago...

Do think I found a web page at http://www.sparcom.com  not too long
ago.

If not, try an AltaVista search for sparcom & drive100

Hope this helps.

-PR
------------

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Just FYI.
I noticed at the local Service Merchandise store that the
following items were on clearance:
HP200LX-2M   for                      $399.99.
HP power supply was only   $     9.80.
(all items were new)
Regards,
Jim J.

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Hi people!

I have one dilemma.

Is it better investment to get a 20Mb flash card or to get 8Mb RAM upgrade?
I learned in the school that 32 > 8
But again, RAM is faster and has some other advantages. I'm simply interested in personal view/experience of people that have one or both.

Also, are there different types of flash cards (like is FC for digital camera same thing as FC for palmtop)?

Thanks for your input!

Nedim.

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> > I add sup622.exe on my web page.
> > I downloaded it from Microsoft.
> > you will find all (I think) the files we don't have on the LX.
> > ex: dosshell, qbasic,...
>
> > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn
> I got a File Not Found when I clicked on that link.
>
SOrry about it.
I fix the problem. (this one :-)
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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I may have one of these drives for sale.  I have a Sparcom 3.5" floppy
drive
that has a parallel interface.  Is this what you are looking for?  If so,
please
reply back to:  jjohnson@tmcc.com.

Regards,
Jim Johnson

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Just a question (2 Cents)

is someone try Publisher 1.0 on the LX.
If yes on which version of windows?

Regards
Alain Psyche
Al
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I bought the Berlitz interpreter
version 1.3 for DOS 1991.
It can translate five languages.
size 823K

Is some one using a newes version of this software?
do you have experience with another one?

for information this one work fine on the 200LX.
it need 160K of ram for running,
but it have only 60000 word.

regards
Alain Psyche
Al
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At 09:50 PM 2/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Drive100 is or was made by Sparcom.  AFAIK they are still in business.
>Not absolutely sure, tho.

Sparcom either changed into, or was swallowed by, daVinci Technologies,
which eventually changed to the name of one of Sparcom's popular products,
PocketProfessional.  They can still be found at http://www.sparcom.com.

It looks like they may not be selling the Drive95 anymore, however.
Although they do have a picture of it on their home page.  Odd.. Anyway,
they seem not to be doing much in the way of palmtop stuff anymore;
the only product I saw that was supposedly still available was the
Station100.  Sparcom really is just the shredded remnants of what it was
before the "technology supermarket" insurrection.  It's almost like
EduCALC.. :(

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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I'll try it!  THANKS! .  Most of my early Lotus learning was thru tips from
other users & exploring the menus.  Word Perfect & Word for Windows seem to
translate easily to WIN  stds, sometimes I think Lotus is just slow to give
up & conform


__________________________________________________________At 03:31 PM
2/26/1998 +1300, you wrote:
>Have you tried F4? Block, press enter and do a series of
>instructions/formatting to the range...
>
>HTH
>David Lawrence
>

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Alain,

Is that 60000 words total(divided by 5 languages = 12000 per language)
or 60000 in each language?

I also have been looking for a good translator. I have downloaded a demo
version of Windi (which also has a DOS version.) Not bad (a little
cumbersome) Still undecided and unconvinced.

Check these sites:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.windi7.com/wdhome.htm
http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/fvzanten/dictionary/index.html
http://www.travlang.com/Ergane/
http://www.travlang.com/index.html#dictionaries

I would be interested in your conclusions and any others' successes.

Bob


>I bought the Berlitz interpreter
>version 1.3 for DOS 1991.
>It can translate five languages.
>size 823K
>
>Is some one using a newes version of this software?
>do you have experience with another one?

>for information this one work fine on the 200LX.
>it need 160K of ram for running,
>but it have only 60000 word.

>regards
>Alain Psyche

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 05:47:01 +0000
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On 1998-02-26 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Has anyone done an access to HPLX database conversion via gdbio or
   >other?
   >Any help on proceedure used would be appreciated..
   >IE is it best to massage data to exactly replicate field structures
   >in access then use Gdbio or convert/massage once in the HPLX?

If you can get Access to export the data in CSV format (comma separated
variable) then you can import the data into an HP .gdb database using
GDBLOAD (found at the SUPER site..www.palmtop.net).

The thing to watch out for is that GDBLOAD has a problem with big files
and you may have to split your data up.

Ive used GDBDUMP/GDBLOAD a couple of times to move data between the LX
and another system. Its clunky, but it handles note fields and I don't
think gdbio does.

- Longden


Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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I think the command is SHIFT-SPACE, but will try it later to
see and update this.  I just can't figure out how to get it to
open up in a window.  Supposedly, if you rt-click on the icon
and select 'Properties', you can set it up, but the setting
doesn't seem to get saved.

>
> Chris Lott wrote:
> >
> > Bill:
> >
> > > Has anyone been able to figure out how to get CPACK to run
> as a "windowed"
> > > application under Windows 95?
> >
> > I have it working on my '95 machine at home. Also my NT
> machine here
> > at work. I'll try to get the Shortcut settings tonight and
> send them
> > to you.
>
>
> I would be interested in these settings too.  CPack works fine
> on my
> WIN95 set, by I cannot run it in a window.
>
> TIA,



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   >I think the command is SHIFT-SPACE, but will try it later to
   >see and update this.  I just can't figure out how to get it to
   >open up in a window.  Supposedly, if you rt-click on the icon
   >and select 'Properties', you can set it up, but the setting
   >doesn't seem to get saved.

Alt+Enter will window most dos progs, but the cpack has a special
video driver, so you can't.

BTW, this special video mode allows one to run programs that look
for the LX envronment happily on the desktop. For example,
PalEdit and HV html viewer. Just press F2 in the cpack and add
them like you would on your palmtop.

HTH
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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C P Wong,

HP Malaysia has sent you an e-mail to your private address, but have not
received any call from you. The message is below, so please contact them.

Regards,

Jorgen Wallgren
HP Singapore
 =========================================================================

20th February 1998


Dear Mr C P Wong

We read your letter with much interest and concern.

We are sorry to hear that you had faced much difficulties in securing an HP
Palmtop 200LX part and the other incidences highlighted when dealing with
HP. Nevertheless we are pleased to hear that you are still an advocate of
our HP Palmtop 200LX and further commend on your right move to bring it up
to our attention, as our customer's comments/recommendations/suggestions
are welcomed.

We wish to contact you to help you alleviate your problems which we hope
will restore your confidence and trust in our products again, hence please
furnish us with your details, most importantly your telephone. As we reckon
that the root of your problem lies in getting the right support and service
from us, we assure you that all your concerns will be addressed.


We thank you again for your support on our HP products and end this note of
ours with the deduction that although 'bottled up emotions do not taste
better with time', we should let time alone decide, as we are convinced that
it is not without hope that you have written to us.


Thanks and Regards.


S Pushpa Rani
Senior Customer Information Centre Specialist
Commercial Channels Organisation
(Tel : 03-2952369)






>>Dear all,
>>
>>I want to relate my experience with HP support in Malaysia (maybe someone
>from HP is also on this list)... This mail is pretty long but I have to
>voice my regretful experience with HP in case some poor soul in this
>country has the same predicament I'm in right now.
>>
>>Incident #1
>>About a year ago, after using the 200LX for a year, I begin to explore the
>potential of using the cc:Mail feature of "Interactively connecting to my
>post office (my office uses cc:Mail). A call to the Malaysian HP support
>only waste phone bill for I'm told to call Singapore for there isn't any
>support for HP200LX. I did call Singapore (good thing my office pays the
>bill) and was on the line for more than half an hour (please remember that
>this is an international call) and finally, I gave up because the support
>guy on the line didn't understand 200LX feature of Interactive connecting
>to post office. (This is the second option when you go to connect menu).
>Eventually, someone on this list (the old one ran by Mitch Hamm) told me
>something about diff. version of VIM and I gave up using that feature.
>>
>>Incident #2
>>When my 200LX warranty was about to expire, I wanted to purchase the
>extended warranty and found out (after 3 calls to 3 diff. persons in diff
>dept) that there is no such thing in Malaysia (you guys in States are so
>lucky).
>>
>>Incident #3
>>Today, I made a call to HP (phone no. given by the dealer who sold the
>palmtop to me) and was directed to call another no. for they do not do
>support for palmtops. So, I call the no., put on hold, phone line got cut
>off because I was on hold for too long and on the second call, I managed to
>speak to a "palmtop support coordinator". My problem is that I damaged my
>screen (yeah, these kind of things happened, a perfectly working palmtop
>being murdered in my hands). I wanted to purchase a replacement screen (or
>for the matter, get it repaired by HP).
>>
>>The coordinator was helpful in giving the prices to me after I gave her
>the part # (it's printed on the back of the LCD. The p/n starts with an
>F1xxx so I figured that would be a HP p/n.) After telling the prices for
>labour and giving me 2 p/n with 2 diff. prices, she found out that I a user
>and I'm directed to call an authorised part supplier (co is Gateway
>Avenue). Now, I know Gateway Avenue people and they only do laser printers.
>Anyway, didn't want to argue the the coordinator and I proceeded to call
>the part supplier. As expected, no such parts...
>>
>>So now, I'm caught in a situation where I want to get my palmtop repaired
>(or replacement parts) and I'm directed to an HP parts supplier where he
>don't deal with palmtop parts.
>>
>>ok, let's look a the options/conclusions:
>>1. Buy a new palmtop (the LCD would be costly anyway, maybe justifiable to
>just get a new one)
>>        The price of the 200LX-4Mb is more expensive than the 320LX. The
>2Mb version is only USD15.00 cheaper the 320LX. Is this     HP's way of
>promoting the 320LX???
>>2. Given the bad support, should I get another 200LX and instead go for a
>Psion or something else? (I really love my 200LX...)
>>        I use the PIM extensively and internet/fax on the palmtop. The
>Psion 5 or even the 3c fits my needs 90%. At least, I have      backlight
>(that is the reason why I damage my screen in the first place, trying to
>install an EL panel ...) and integrated e-      mail/fax sw for the Psion
>5. The 3c is also pretty good by the looks of it.
>>3. Send the palmtop to Thaddeus (USA) for repairs?
>>        I'd check their site and I have to pay US225.00 excluding
>shipping... not cheap but under the circumstances, it may be worth a
>try.
>>4. Call HP again and this time, insist on getting the parts, maybe paying
>them a visit and explain the situation?
>>        Should I? Given the atitude of the support people I'd spoken to,
>they may insist that I deal with their authorised parts      supplier...)
>If only one person can think like someone from Fort Cornwallis.......
>>5.. Consider Palmpilot Pro..
>>        I friend "loan" his unit to me to use it as long as I want and buy
>if off him if I decide to keep it. (Incidentally, I was on the Pilot
>5000 for a period of time and eventually sold my unit to him and I went
>back to the 200LX)
>>
>>(Pardon the self ad here....)
>>Considering that I'm an sort of "evangelist" (that's what the mac
>advocates are called) for the 200LX, appeared on TV once to talk about the
>use of palmtops and PDAs, showing off my 200LX in front of the camera;
>personally convinced at least 5 persons to use the 200LX instead of some
>other palmtops/pdas; helped a number of users over the phone on the use of
>the 200LX PIM during office hours, etc. I reckon I have to rethink "other"
>palmtops instead of just HP... The thought of moving away from this list
>and the 200LX is going to be very painful indeed.
>>
>>Thank you for your indulgence and please comment/suggest if any.
>>
>>C P Wong
>>cpwong@tm.net.my
>>
>>"HP200LX - Live Long and Prosper"
>>

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|jorgen@palmtop.net      |    Mobile Computing -> HP 200LX Palmtop PC     |
|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
|wallgren@newspage.com.sg|Unlike fine wine, bottled-up emotions do not    |
|jorgen_wallgren@hp.com  |taste better with  time...                      |
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->Is it better investment to get a 20Mb flash card or to get 8Mb RAM
->upgrade? I learned in the school that 32 > 8
->But again, RAM is faster and has some other advantages. I'm simply
->interested in personal view/experience of people that have one or both.

Obivously just an opinion:  Extra RAM is nice because it is faster, but
only to a point because although speed is nice having the space to carry
your applications and have them available is even nicer.  If you do not
have the space the have them around when you need them, their speed
becomes a moot point!

It therefore depends on what you are starting from.  If you already have
4MB RAM, I think the advantages of a 20 MB flash card are significantly
greater.  I think the same holds true even if you have 2 Mb of RAM but
some may argue with that.

I would also look at the new Viking CF cards (with which I have no
experience) because you might get even more card real estate for the same
price and greater speed than a regular flash card.

Jeff

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Bill Childers wrote:
>
> Has anyone been able to figure out how to get CPACK to run as a "windowed"
> application under Windows 95?  I had done it once, but got a new workstation
> at work, and lost the setup.  :(  Now I can't seem to figure it out.

Load the LLRA driver while still in real mode, i.e. BEFORE
you start windoze (hit F8). See excellent article on SUPER website.

> Barring that,
> does anyone know how to make customized phonebook databases work in the
> OB6DSK Phone Book app?

What's OB6DSK? I made a custom (tailored for European use) database,
called is AD.GDB, and opened the Phone Book, selected AD.GDB through
Menu->File->open, and now, anytime I push the phone key I get my
custom database. Does that answer your question?


P.S. What's that binary file hanging off the end of your e-mail
message?

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Forwarded message:
From:     Self <ATLANTIS/LOTT>
To: ingham@ibm.net
Subject: Re: CPACK and Windows 95...
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:12:40 -0600

> > > Has anyone been able to figure out how to get CPACK to run as a "windowed"
> > > application under Windows 95?
> >
> > I have it working on my '95 machine at home. Also my NT machine here
> > at work. I'll try to get the Shortcut settings tonight and send them
> > to you.
>
>
> I would be interested in these settings too.  CPack works fine on my
> WIN95 set, by I cannot run it in a window.

Oops.... It seems that I mis-understood the original query. No, I
don't know of any way to have it run in a "WINDOW" under Win95. What
I have runs under Win 95, and has an ICON that I click on. But when
the program runs, it runs in FULL SCREEN mode. Any attempt to reduce
it to a smaller window result in the application being frozen. This
is true on my NT machine, too. I'm sorry if I made you think
otherwise.

Now, I *think* there might be a way to have CPACK running while
MINIMIZED, but I haven't figured it out yet...

-Chris Lott

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Does anyone know if it's possible to find duplicate records in a Lotus
spreadsheet?  For example, in a list of companies with addresses, would
it be possible to filter out or display all of the records that had an
identical street address?  This is possible in Excel by setting up a
filter and exclude duplicates.

JS

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> Date:          Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:36:36 -0500
> Reply-to:      Jims@smithcharter.com
> From:          Jim Smith <JIMS@smithcharter.com>
> Organization:  Smith Charter Associates
> Subject:       Find duplicates in Lotus
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Does anyone know if it's possible to find duplicate records in a Lotus
> spreadsheet?  For example, in a list of companies with addresses, would
> it be possible to filter out or display all of the records that had an
> identical street address?  This is possible in Excel by setting up a
> filter and exclude duplicates.

Well, Excel makes this easy. I think in Lotus 123 you have to do a
DATA SORT on your records. If you sort by Street Name (assuming you
have this in one of your columns), then you can find all companies on
the same street. If the entire address (number and street) is in the
same column, then you can find all company records having the same
total address. Is this what you want?

-Chris Lott


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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Jim Smith wrote:

> Does anyone know if it's possible to find duplicate records in a Lotus
> spreadsheet?  For example, in a list of companies with addresses, would
> it be possible to filter out or display all of the records that had an
> identical street address?  This is possible in Excel by setting up a
> filter and exclude duplicates.

Sort the list by address, add a formula in an empty column with an @if to
check for duplicates.

For example, if the addresses were in column B ...and column A was
available, I'd enter @if(b2=b1,"Dup"," ") in the "A" cell adjacent to an
address and this would put "Dup" in column A next to the duplicate entry
(or it would be blank otherwise). Just copy the formula down the column
for the number of entries.

Someone with more Lotus experience probably has a better way...this is the
quickest I know. /Data-Table-Unique may also be a way.

- Longden

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Administrative Question:

Why do some Mailing List posts have the list address in the Reply-To
field, and some don't? I have replied to a message several times, and
noticed that the address that my mailer selects is frequently just
the original poster, not the list itself. Other times, it is the
list, just as I would expect.

Is this somehow intentional on the part of the poster (he/she wants
personal replies, not posted to the list)?

Or is my e-mail program somehow screwed up (it wouldn't be the first
time!!!)?

Or something else alltogether???

-Chris Lott


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Chris Lott wrote:

> > Date:          Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:36:36 -0500
> > Reply-to:      Jims@smithcharter.com
> > From:          Jim Smith <JIMS@smithcharter.com>
> > Organization:  Smith Charter Associates
> > Subject:       Find duplicates in Lotus
> > To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> > Does anyone know if it's possible to find duplicate records in a Lotus
> > spreadsheet?  For example, in a list of companies with addresses, would
> > it be possible to filter out or display all of the records that had an
> > identical street address?  This is possible in Excel by setting up a
> > filter and exclude duplicates.
>
> Well, Excel makes this easy. I think in Lotus 123 you have to do a
> DATA SORT on your records. If you sort by Street Name (assuming you
> have this in one of your columns), then you can find all companies on
> the same street. If the entire address (number and street) is in the
> same column, then you can find all company records having the same
> total address. Is this what you want?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> ***********************************************************************
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                               lott@phase4.com
> Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate address:
> 3405 Triana Blvd, SW                                      rclott@ro.com
> Huntsville, AL  35805

Close, but not exactly.  To be more specific, I have constructed a mailing
list with companies merged from several SIC codes.  Since some of these
companies exist in more than one SIC code, I need to strip out the
duplicates.  The way to do this is to look for identical street addresses
since some company names will be the same.  If the street number and address
(same field) are identical, I want to strip it out of the database.  I don't
really have to do this on the 200LX--I just want to compare the performance
to what appears to be a really slow function in Excel.

Thanks for your suggestion, Chris.

JS

>

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:09:17 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Opher Ben-Peretz <opherbp@ISRAELMAIL.COM>
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Hello Listers,
I have decided to plunge into the palmtop world and am planning to buy a
new one soon. Initially I considered the Velo 500 but then saw and liked
the LX620.

Can anyone please write to me with responses to any / all of the following
questions please:
1. What accessories should I buy, especially memory enhancements. Since I
plan to use a PC card 33.6 modem, can both coexist?
2. The modems I am thinking of are the Motorola Montana 33.6 and USR
Sportster 33.6 x2 upgradable, any comments / suggestions?
3. How much interface can I expect with a PowerMac equipped with the Apple
PC Compatibility 7" card (which uses all Mac peripherals for PC functions,
but has no physical parallel port)?

Thank you for your kind attention.

Regards,        Opher Ben-Peretz                   FourStar Aerospace
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Hi Chris & All:

        On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:54:43 -0600, Chris Wrote on HPLX-L:

> Why do some Mailing List posts have the list address in the
> Reply-To field, and some don't?...

The LIST has REPLY-TO set to "BOTH,RESPECT"

"BOTH" means: Reply to both the original sender and to the LIST.

"RESPECT" means: The original "Reply-to:" tag, if any, is kept. Note
that this means that Reply-to: address specified in the first
position is ingnored if a "Reply-to:" tag exists in the original
posting.

Cheers,




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I noticed a program in SUPER now called SWAP. Sounds something like
MaxDOS, but swap keeps locking up on me.

Has anyone used SWAP yet and can provide some feedback. Sounds interesting
if only because it says it can swap recursively using process-ids.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 12:52:34 -0500
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              Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM>
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Any news yet on what effect the 32MB upgrade has on battery life?
Compared to a 2MB 200LX, say?

Thanks,
        Bill Schell
        bill-bell-labs.com

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David Lawrence was correct - ALT-ENTER toggles from windowed
to full screen (not SHIFT-SPACE).  Mine doesn't hang at all -
connecting through the serial port, etc., or using local
files.

Also, you can transfer files, etc., while minimized - once you
start the backup or file transfer, ALT-TAB switches to Explorer
or whatever is running.

> Oops.... It seems that I mis-understood the original query. No,
> I don't know of any way to have it run in a "WINDOW" under Win95.
> What I have runs under Win 95, and has an ICON that I click on. But
> when the program runs, it runs in FULL SCREEN mode. Any attempt to
> reduce it to a smaller window result in the application being frozen.
> This is true on my NT machine, too. I'm sorry if I made you think
> otherwise.
>
> Now, I *think* there might be a way to have CPACK running
> while MINIMIZED, but I haven't figured it out yet...
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> ***************************************************************
> *******
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> lott@phase4.com
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:17:21 -0500
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Hi All-

Does anyone on this list use a product apparently sold by Opus 63
called the Pocket Liberator PalmTop Holster (PLPTH)???

It's an under-arm holster for the 200LX and other PDA's.  Designed to
be used sort-of like an under-cover policeman's gun holster that goes
under the jacket, you know?

I've been trying to get one of these products for about 4 months now,
and am having a terrible time with it.  Somebody gave me the phone
number of the company (718.706-6787), and I called it back in November
of 97.  I spoke with a fellow by the name of Elder Duque, and he told
me that they were just out of stock on one of the components (the
shoulder harness), but he'd send me a catalog.  I waited and waited,
but it never showed up.  I called back repeatedly over the course of a
month or so, and got nothing except his voice mail.  Then,
miraculously, in january, he finally answered his phone.  I thought
that maybe he had been on vacation or something.

Well, I ordered all of the products I wanted from him (gave him my
credit card number and everything), and he said I should expect the
products in 6 days or so.  Nothing arrived, and it's been a month.
I've tried calling again, and now there's not even a voice mail system
that's operating.  I'm getting the impression this guy is a real flake
and maybe he's going out of business but is afraid to admit it to a
potential customer.

Does anyone know anything about this company and/or product?  I've
seen photos of it on various web pages, and it looks like exactly what
I need.  However, I can't find anyone else who makes a similar product
(under-arm holster for my 200LX), and I can't reach this guy to save
my life.

Any clues on the availability of similar products from other companies
would be very welcome.  I really need one of these things or it
becomes too hard to use my 200LX at work (industrial environment where
it needs some protection or it's likely to get broken).


Thanks!


___________________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:23:12 +0100
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On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> I noticed a program in SUPER now called SWAP. Sounds something like
> MaxDOS, but swap keeps locking up on me.
>
> Has anyone used SWAP yet and can provide some feedback. Sounds interesting
> if only because it says it can swap recursively using process-ids.

I have used it (and I suggested Mitch put it on SUPER.). I haven't had any
problems yet, but haven't used it much.

I would gladly offer any help I can. Can you post or e-mail some
specifics?

Cheers,

Laust

--
 ///  Laust Brock-Nannestad - laustbn@diku.dk  -  HPLX+C64+SID   ///
/// He's dead Jim, kick him if you don't believe me!            ///

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Anyone have an extra user manual for the 200LX they would be willing to
sell?  I have acquired a used HP200LX without a user manual and there are
many things I can't figure out just by poking around.

Any assitance would be greatly appreciated.

-Sandy
sdixon@cohesive.com

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I will sell my manual for $10.00 plus UPS.

Jim


> Anyone have an extra user manual for the 200LX they would be willing to
> sell?  I have acquired a used HP200LX without a user manual and there are
> many things I can't figure out just by poking around.
>
> Any assitance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Sandy
> sdixon@cohesive.com
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BUMPER STICKERS FOR LIFE

Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met
I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol
I intend to live forever - so far, so good
I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy
If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
Mental backup in progress - Do Not Disturb!
Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of
Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have
Televangelists: The Pro Wrestlers of religion.
The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes.
When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane


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Sandy Dixon wrote:
>
> Anyone have an extra user manual for the 200LX they would be willing to
> sell?>
> -Sandy
> sdixon@cohesive.com
--
yah, I have one for you.  Just send me a sturdy mailing envelope stamped
for about a pound, addressed to wherever you want it sent. (lb weight,
not currency)  I have two extra, will be happy to send it to you.  don't
need any money for it, was going to get trashed anyway.

Best Power
po box 280
N9246 Highway 80
Necedah, Wi. 54646
attn:
m beutler
EMC Lab
engineering department

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Hi All-

Does anyone have the drivers from irda097.zip installed and working on
their 200LX?

I have a Times2Tech upgraded 200LX (to 4MB and doublespeed) on which I
run buddy version 2.1 and I recently tried installing these but can't
get them to work.  Mitch Hamm apparently has his working (see below),
but he apparently doesn't have a speed upgraded 200LX, and I'm
wondering if that might be the source of my problem with IrDA printing
to my HP LaserJet 6MP.  It might also be a printer problem, but
troubleshooting IR devices is kinda difficult.  How can I tell whether
the problem resides in the sending device or the receiving device?

I downloaded irda097.zip from SUPER and installed as per the
README.TXT in that zip archive, but when I try printing to my new HPLJ
6MP (with IrDA port), I get nothing -- no response at all.  Not even a
clue that the printer realizes something is sending data (perhaps the
palmtop is not sending data?).

Any thoughts?

Thanks very much for any clues!


***************************************************************
<snipped>
On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:56:14 -0500, Mitchell B. Hamm
(mitch@palmtop.net) writes:


> Are there any experiences among the HP users with IR printing
> from palmtop?

I have had good results using the IRDA print drivers from HP to send jobs to my
HP 5MP. It's also entertaining to leave strange printouts in the trays of
computer store printers. :)

Mitch

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Now as I read Mitch's post, I'm wondering if the "IRDA print drivers
from HP" are the same print drivers as the ones I'm using (in the zip
archive "irda097.zip").

Thanks!

Kevin


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I am loking for a copy of the HP Palmtop Paper, Volume 6, Number 2, 1997 for a
reasonable price or to trade for PTP Vol 6 No 3, 1997.

Thanks.

Michael
_____________4:04:44 PM EST, 2/27/98_____________

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FYI just found this on the Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp.


----- forwarded message -----

Path: nntp.earthlink.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols=
!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.c=
om!199.170.121.3!viper.america.net!not-for-mail
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Subject: ---!Grand Opening! Software Store
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:21:35 PST
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I thought everyone should know about this site.  www.discountware.com=
 is probably one of the largest computer stores I have seen.  They have=
 over 40,000 products you can buy online.   There are free software=
 downloads available.  If you haven't been there to check it out, I=
 would highly suggest a visit.



----- end of forwarded message -----

Regards,

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For those interested, Apple announced that it has stopped development on the Newton Messagepad OS.

_____________4:44:52 PM EST, 2/27/98_____________

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They have 200LX 4MB for $568.

--- On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:37:15 -0500  Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

>FYI just found this on the Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp.

>----- forwarded message -----
>I thought everyone should know about this site.  www.discountware.com is probably one
of the largest computer stores I have seen.  They have over 40,000 products you can
buy online.   There are free software downloads available.  If you haven't been there
to check it out, I would highly suggest a visit.

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Comments: To: "Kevin S. Ford" <ksford@CYBERTOURS.COM>

Text of message from ksford@CYBERTOURS.COM, 27 Feb 1998, 02:17 PM
> Hi All-
>
> Does anyone on this list use a product apparently sold by Opus 63
> called the Pocket Liberator PalmTop Holster (PLPTH)???

I use it and love it!

>Ý...¨

> Any clues on the availability of similar products from other companies
> would be very welcome.  I really need one of these things or it
> becomes too hard to use my 200LX at work (industrial environment where
> it needs some protection or it's likely to get broken).
>

I'm very sad to hear about that, since mine is wearing out a bit after 2
years and I was going toi order another.

If they aren't in business, you might check the Psion site
(www.psion.com).  On it, I remember seeing a holster for the psion which
might work for our beloved 200LX (but it might be a tight squeeze since
psion is a bit thinner, I think).

Good luck and let us know.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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May it rest in peace!

At 04:46 PM 2/27/98, you wrote:
>For those interested, Apple announced that it has stopped development on the
>Newton Messagepad OS.

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Text of message from ksford@CYBERTOURS.COM, 27 Feb 1998, 03:34 PM
> Hi All-
>
> Does anyone have the drivers from irda097.zip installed and working on
> their 200LX?
>
> I have a Times2Tech upgraded 200LX (to 4MB and doublespeed) on which I
> run buddy version 2.1 and I recently tried installing these but can't
> get them to work.  Mitch Hamm apparently has his working (see below),
> but he apparently doesn't have a speed upgraded 200LX, and I'm
> wondering if that might be the source of my problem with IrDA printing
> to my HP LaserJet 6MP.  It might also be a printer problem, but
> troubleshooting IR devices is kinda difficult.  How can I tell whether
> the problem resides in the sending device or the receiving device?
>
> I downloaded irda097.zip from SUPER and installed as per the
> README.TXT in that zip archive, but when I try printing to my new HPLJ
> 6MP (with IrDA port), I get nothing -- no response at all.  Not even a
> clue that the printer realizes something is sending data (perhaps the
> palmtop is not sending data?).
>
> Any thoughts?

I have a non-speed upgraded LX and I cannot print using the 97 drivers. I
run Buddy but had not problems using the old drivers--I guess I should re-
install them but I've been too lazy.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Lexicomp98 is available from K2 software for about $100, less for upgrade.
this is a good reference for PDR type info, tho somewhat slower than the PMR
program which used to be available. I have Lexicomp 98 and it works well.
 There are a number of medical files and databases available from Thaddeus,
mostly free ar shareware, and worth looking at. I'm also always looking for an
application that I can use in my practice.
Doug Devens, MD

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mdstockr wrote:
>
> For those interested, Apple announced that it has stopped development on the Newton Messagepad OS.
>
> _____________4:44:52 PM EST, 2/27/98_____________
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I wouldent put to much stock in the newtons demise. When I used to do
newton stuff, it died and was resurected a total of five times in one
month :P.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:15:16 -0800
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Kevin S. Ford wrote:
>
> Hi All-
>
> Does anyone have the drivers from irda097.zip installed and working on
> their 200LX?
>
> I have a Times2Tech upgraded 200LX (to 4MB and doublespeed) on which I
> run buddy version 2.1 and I recently tried installing these but can't
> get them to work.  Mitch Hamm apparently has his working (see below),
> but he apparently doesn't have a speed upgraded 200LX, and I'm
> wondering if that might be the source of my problem with IrDA printing
> to my HP LaserJet 6MP.  It might also be a printer problem, but
> troubleshooting IR devices is kinda difficult.  How can I tell whether
> the problem resides in the sending device or the receiving device?

Well, I can tell you that I can print to my LJ-6MP.  My 200lx is
single speed, though.

>
> I downloaded irda097.zip from SUPER and installed as per the
> README.TXT in that zip archive, but when I try printing to my new HPLJ
> 6MP (with IrDA port), I get nothing -- no response at all.  Not even a
> clue that the printer realizes something is sending data (perhaps the
> palmtop is not sending data?).
>
> Any thoughts?
>

Did go to Setup and change the Printer setting to Infrared?  It's a
step not listed in the readme.txt file.

-Eric

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:43:16 -0800
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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I can't find this in the archives so I'll bring it up.

Anyone thought about trying some glo-in-the-dark stuff as a cheap
backlight experiment?  I'm sure it wouldn't be as nice as a real
backlight but I wonder if it would work.  www.sciplus.com has 8x10
sheets of the stuff for $3.50, though I don't know how thick it is,
nor how thin it needs to be to fit.  Wadayathink?

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:42:11 -0600
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I recently bought exp thinfax modem, Accurite's Double Slot and =
Transdigital parallel port card and Zipplus drive.

I can use the Double Slot and the Modem. The Zip drive works with my =
desktop.

However I cannot get the 200lx to work with the transdigital parallel =
card, either with Double Slot nor when I use the card alone in the 200LX =
slot.

I have downloaded the appropriate files from the Zip install disk to use =
Guest on my computer.

Returned transdigital card and cabled to the company. Tested ok.

I notice that after installing all the above I have Drives =
A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H on the 200LX but cannot access F,G,H.

What am I doing wrong?

If anyone out there lives within 100 miles of St. Louis I'd be glad to =
visit him and pay for his/her service in getting this to work.



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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I recently bought exp thinfax modem, =
Accurite's=20
Double Slot and Transdigital parallel port card and Zipplus =
drive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I can use the Double Slot and the =
Modem. The Zip=20
drive works with my desktop.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>However I cannot get the 200lx to =
work with the=20
transdigital parallel card, either with Double Slot nor when I use the =
card=20
alone in the 200LX slot.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have downloaded the appropriate =
files from the=20
Zip install disk to use Guest on my computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Returned transdigital card and =
cabled to the=20
company. Tested ok.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I notice that after installing all =
the above I=20
have Drives A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H on the 200LX but cannot access =
F,G,H.</FONT></DIV>
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Louis I'd be=20
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:28:47 -0500
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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I found a great case for my HP200lx.  Since I end up wearing a lab coat that's
loaded down with pocket reference books on a daily basis (the scourge of the
house officer), I didn't want to get something that was too bulky.  At Virgin
Megastore I found a case that works out quite nicely.  Cost is about $8-12.
It is a camera case made by CaseLogic, so I'm sure you can find it anywhere.
They make two sizes with a variable amount of features.  I bought the smaller
one since it met my needs better.

The case is made of Cordura nylon and is padded throughout.  The outer flap
velcro's over the top to hold your baby in place, although it can also tuck
inside so that you have quickdraw access to the palmtop.  A side pocket of
elastic webbing is perfect for holding pens, calipers, etc.  In back is a
beltloop strap that buttons on the bottom so that you can quickly
attach/deattach it from your person.  Also on the backside is a zippered
pocket that is perfect for holding change, business cards, or a PCMCIA modem.

The LX fits nicely in the main pocket with a little extra room on the sides,
so I'm sure it could probably accommodate one of the WinCE machines (though
the larger case may be a bit more appropriate for the larger palmtops since
they would probably poke out of the top).  The larger model also has a
fold-out rain cover, but that hasn't really been an issue for me.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience with the group.

Thanks!

-- Terrence Chun, MD

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 19:52:08 -0500
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On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:42:11, ETeagle wrote:

> I recently bought exp thinfax modem, Accurite's Double Slot and
> Transdigital parallel port card and Zipplus drive.

> However I cannot get the 200lx to work with the transdigital parallel
> card, either with Double Slot nor when I use the card alone in the=
 200LX
> slot.

The HP Palmtop Paper July/August 1997 has a Step-by-Step on page 17.
The Author was Tom Boyles. He can be reached at tom.boyles@palmtop.com=

or at his web page at: http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/way/6215

HTH



Regards,

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:07:43 -0500
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I finished up my day, logged my last case in the database on the palmtop,
went to my locker, opened the palmtop to make an entry in the shopping
list, and found it rebooting.

I shut it off, went home, plugged it in to AC, and turned it on again.

This is an originally-1-meg machine that had the 8-meg doublespeed upgrade
from The Palmtop Paper group months ago, and has an EXP LXM-8 faxmodem-RAM
card in it.

Everything on both EXP and C: drive had either become inaccessible or was
gone.

During boot-up, I see "Invalid drive specification" and "Invalid drive in
search path" messages flash by. In Filer, I cannot locate a C: drive. I
cannot locate the memory part of the EXP card. Absent a C: drive, I cannot
run the EXP's install program.

With <Cntl><Filer> I see "System RAM: 636" and "RAM disk: 7520", so it
knows all 8 megs of RAM are there.

I finally bit the bullet, pressed <Cntl><Shift><ON>, and said Y to format.

I now can see my C: drive again, can install the EXP card, can restore
from the backup ON the EXP card. Which, of course, is NOT current!

At any rate, I want to know what happened to make the C: drive become
inaccessible, requiring format and restore?

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:53:12 -0500
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Hi Jim & all:

     On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:07:43 -0500, Jim Saklad Wrote:

> I finished up my day, logged my last case in the database on
> the palmtop, went to my locker, opened the palmtop to make
> an entry in the shopping list, and found it rebooting...
>

     This is really weird! I had the same thing happen yesterday! I
spent most of today trying to find the exact cause of the problem, and
I'm still baffled!!!

- I placed my LX in my Smart Dock ~5:00pm EST, and it started to boot,
but failed to boot completely.

- Everything from CONFIG.SYS seemed to load OK, but when my AUTOEXEC
got to andrew2, the problems started:

     - the font loader appeared to load OK (but later I realized that
the font was not changed from the default.

     - EXKEY was the next program to load, which failed.

     - MOREEXM was next to load, but it stalled here.

Here are my observations after a few hours of investigation:

- both the EXKEY.ini & MOREEXM.ini files appeared to be intact.

- I finally ran CHKDSK, and my TREMM.SWP was corrupted as well as one
large .TXT file that was open in Vern Berg's LIST. ~carosel.tmp was
also corrupted. There were a few other files corrupted as well
which were not open, or related.

- Hilighting a file in FILER and ENTER gave an error msg ("cannot find
ÝMORE¨") even though FILER.ini & PNS200.ini appeared OK

- Software Carousel would not load, "Could not find CAROUSEL.PGM"
although that file appeared OK.


*** I had attributed this to a glitch in SC until now!!!

BTW: I also have a 1mB 200LX upgraded to 2x, 8mB.

- I have a STACked 4mB EXP1414LXM which appears to be OK.

Anybody Else Have a Problem?

     I find it hard to believe this is a coincidence!

Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 22:06:08 -0700
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Friends,

 I've recently acquired an HP 200LX used
(i.e. no manuals or accessories). I ordered and
received the F1015 serial cable and am attempting
to connect to my desktop using Laplink in the HP.
Since I don't have the software that came with the
Connectivity pack, I attempted to use my old copy
of Laplink Pro ver.4 on my desktop. As you may have guessed,
I'm having no luck getting them acquainted with each
other.

 My question is this: do I need the Connectivity pack version
of Laplink?

  I enabled Com Port power in Dos with no luck.

I tried a remote install of LLPro from the desktop to the HP,
but the desktop would not recognize the HP...

Tried the "mode com1:2400,n,8,1" command on the HP to
set the port, no luck...


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mike

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:51:09 -0500
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 05:50:54 +0000
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On 1998-02-27 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >to connect to my desktop using Laplink in the HP.
   >Since I don't have the software that came with the
   >Connectivity pack, I attempted to use my old copy
   >of Laplink Pro ver.4 on my desktop. As you may have guessed,
   >I'm having no luck getting them acquainted with each
   >other.
   >My question is this: do I need the Connectivity pack version
   >of Laplink?

No.

You just need to copy a few files from the d:\bin area to your desktop
and do some simple setups. See Dave Sargeant's FAQ mentioned in the
listgroup's website (at the signature line....copied here:)

   >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

The FAQ has a section on setting up laplink to connect with the desktop.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:57:48 -0500
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If you can get hold of LapLink 3 I highly recommend it!!! With it, transferring files is a zip. It works with Win95 and LX200, no problem. You can forget about built in apps and other stuff that's circulating.

Nedim.

At 12:06 AM 2/28/98, you wrote:
>Friends,
>
> I've recently acquired an HP 200LX used
>(i.e. no manuals or accessories). I ordered and
>received the F1015 serial cable and am attempting
>to connect to my desktop using Laplink in the HP.
>Since I don't have the software that came with the
>Connectivity pack, I attempted to use my old copy
>of Laplink Pro ver.4 on my desktop. As you may have guessed,
>I'm having no luck getting them acquainted with each
>other.
>
> My question is this: do I need the Connectivity pack version
>of Laplink?
>
>  I enabled Com Port power in Dos with no luck.
>
>I tried a remote install of LLPro from the desktop to the HP,
>but the desktop would not recognize the HP...
>
>Tried the "mode com1:2400,n,8,1" command on the HP to
>set the port, no luck...
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:02:43 -0700
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Longden and the group,

 Thank you for the timely response. I was able to connect
the 2 and transfer files using Hyperterminal and
Datacomm. I was so focused on trying to make Laplink
work in the HP that I forgot the basics of file transfers,
i.e. start a terminal program, select a protocol, select a
file, and send it.

 I think I've lost something by being so exposed to the
"drag and drop" method of computing.:-)


Thanks again,

Mike



>   >to connect to my desktop using Laplink in the HP.
>   >Since I don't have the software that came with the
>   >Connectivity pack, I attempted to use my old copy
>   >of Laplink Pro ver.4 on my desktop. As you may have guessed,
>   >I'm having no luck getting them acquainted with each
>   >other.
>   >My question is this: do I need the Connectivity pack version
>   >of Laplink?
>
>No.
>
>You just need to copy a few files from the d:\bin area to your desktop
>and do some simple setups. See Dave Sargeant's FAQ mentioned in the
>listgroup's website (at the signature line....copied here:)
>
>   >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
>The FAQ has a section on setting up laplink to connect with the desktop.
>
>- Longden
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:38:10 -0800
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Bill Schell wrote:
>
> Any news yet on what effect the 32MB upgrade has on battery life?
> Compared to a 2MB 200LX, say?

It has approximately the same effect on the battery life as does the 8MB
upgrade, which is not a whole lot.  Probably 5-10%.  The speed upgrade affects
it more dramatically than either memory upgrade.

Of course, if someone has a different experience...
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 03:18:33 -0500
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        Anyone run Nethack on an HP 200LX?  For those uniniated, Nethack is a
great free text game in constant development.  If you've ever played the
old Old OLD games like Rogue or Hack, it's basically the same thing but
greatly expanded.  What it lacks in graphics it easily makes up for in
gameplay.
        Anyhow...
        I would have tried it already but it is just a bit bigger than my 2MB HP
will hold :(... I have been considering getting a RAM card (for other
reasons too, not just to play Nethack (although it's a factor :) )), but
would like to know whether or not it actually works.
        If no one has tried it and feels like they're in an experimental mode,
download it from http://reality.sgi.com/david_neu/slash-net-hack.html and
let me know the results.  Thanks.

        Chris Pimlott

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There is a nuclear option coming out soon: Just one tiny drop
of Tritium and it runs for about 75,842.58 years at speeds
measured above 1485MHz --- (:-Q ... Delivery date Feb 31,
1999.

I suggest you look at: http://www.cyberportal.net/nuenergy/main.html

as there is research on this very subject going on right now, and anyone
can participate. He's giving the technology away as there is no other
way to really get it out there .

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 04:48:26 EST
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I hope someone can help me. I have an old PDD2 floppy drive for the Tandy
Model 100 laying around. For those who don't know, it uses an RS232 interface.
I remember, several years ago, that there was a DOS driver for it. Does anyone
know of a driver specifically for the 200lx or where I might locate the DOS
driver?????

Thanks,
Dennis

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On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 04:48:26, Class3Dep wrote:

> I hope someone can help me. I have an old PDD2 floppy drive for the
> Tandy Model 100 laying around. For those who don't know, it uses an=
 RS232
> interface.
> I remember, several years ago, that there was a DOS driver for it.=
 Does
> anyone know of a driver specifically for the 200lx or where I might=
 locate the
> DOS driver?????


Hi Dennis,

Just sold my Model 100 after over 15 yrs. of service about a month ago,=
 and I
had that driver/software too. The software was call LapDos II.

Visit: http://www.the-dock.com/c100/catalog.html

BTW: The drive works great on the palmtop but you must use a null-modem
adapter.

HTH


Regards,

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LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu,Internet writes:
>     On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:07:43 -0500, Jim Saklad Wrote:
>Anybody Else Have a Problem?
>     I find it hard to believe this is a coincidence!
>
Errm, forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Feb 27th the day Michaelangello
goes off???
If so, try doing a virusscan on your palmtop and desktop...

Regards,

Damien Gardner Jnr
Administrator,
Engineering OnLine, Australia

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              Tony Hutchins <thutchins@ACM.ORG>
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>         If no one has tried it and feels like they're in an experimental=
 mode,
> download it from http://reality.sgi.com/david_neu/slash-net-hack.html =
and
> let me know the results.  Thanks.

It works. Takes 2.2Mb.... On an unspeeded up 100LX with 384K of EMM (it
seems to recognise EMM) it takes about 2 seconds for most moves. Faster
than on a DS with no EMM. I don't have EMM on my DS palmtop, but reckon
the speed would be quite acceptable with that combo. The docs say the
EMM is required ... and that otherwise at some parts of the game one
may run out of memory. I tried the version that needs 570K of lower
RAM. Got the real mode version of nh321. The docs say they hadn't
tested it on a 286 so I was pleased to see it run on the palmtop.
Pretty slow though. Chris, I wouldn't buy a flashcard just to run this
one ;)

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:33:19 -1
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On 1998-02-26 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >Barring that, does anyone know how to make
   >customized phonebook databases work in the OB6DSK Phone Book app?
As far as I know: you CANNOT do that :-(


Bas Pruijn
http://surf.to/pruijn            mailto:pruijn@usa.net

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:36:31 -0500
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> There is a nuclear option coming out soon: Just one tiny drop
> of Tritium and it runs for about 75,842.58 years at speeds
> measured above 1485MHz --- (:-Q ... Delivery date Feb 31,
> 1999.
>
> I suggest you look at: http://www.cyberportal.net/nuenergy/main.html
>
> as there is research on this very subject going on right now, and anyone
> can participate. He's giving the technology away as there is no other
> way to really get it out there .

I looked. Despite appearances, this is bull crap.

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:48:39 -0500
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At 01:36 PM 2/28/98, you wrote:
>> There is a nuclear option coming out soon: Just one tiny drop
>> of Tritium and it runs for about 75,842.58 years at speeds
>> measured above 1485MHz --- (:-Q ... Delivery date Feb 31,
>> 1999.
>>
>> I suggest you look at: http://www.cyberportal.net/nuenergy/main.html
>>
>> as there is research on this very subject going on right now, and anyone
>> can participate. He's giving the technology away as there is no other
>> way to really get it out there .
>
>I looked. Despite appearances, this is bull crap.

:-) HAHAHA

Precise, and to the point!

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:29:17 -0500
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              Harris <upstate@PIPELINE.COM>
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Right now I'm desperate for a good 14.4 modem for my 200LX.  I want to get
one before they disappear!

Can someone recommend a source for these?  Thanks.

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              Igor Grabelnikov <igg@SBCORP.RU>
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Hello All!

Can anybody tell, what fonts are used in the HP built-in calculator in the
lower line (larger font) and in other lines above? I'd like to use those
fonts in my own program (I use Borland C and PAL). Is it possible? Are those
fonts built-in or not?

Thanks.

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
igg@sbcorp.ru

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:39:41 EST
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David Sargeant had just the advice that i needed.  After removing the back
case and circut board, it was a breeze to fix the hinge cover.  Everything is
back up and running just fine.

How many other systems could survive a 6 ft fall to the kitchen floor with no
damage that couldn't be fixed with a screw driver and a little time?  (The
back-up and restore of my c: drive was more of a hastle than the physical
repair.)

Thanks, David

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:03:16 +0100
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              tkraus@AUGSBURG.BAYNET.DE
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Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET

  In Reply to :
At 28 Feb 00:51, Longden Loo wrote:
>
>Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 05:50:54 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980228055051.AAA16463@Ý12.64.37.224¨>
>
>On 1998-02-27 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>
>   >to connect to my desktop using Laplink in the HP.
>   >Since I don't have the software that came with the
>   >Connectivity pack, I attempted to use my old copy
>   >of Laplink Pro ver.4 on my desktop. As you may have guessed,
>   >I'm having no luck getting them acquainted with each
>   >other.
>   >My question is this: do I need the Connectivity pack version
>   >of Laplink?
>
>No.
>
>You just need to copy a few files from the d:\bin area to your desktop
>and do some simple setups. See Dave Sargeant's FAQ mentioned in the
>listgroup's website (at the signature line....copied here:)
>
>   >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
>The FAQ has a section on setting up laplink to connect with the desktop.
>
>- Longden
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered
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   >On 1998-02-26 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to pruijn@usa.net
   >>Barring that, does anyone know how to make
   >>customized phonebook databases work in the OB6DSK Phone Book app?
   >As far as I know: you CANNOT do that :-(
   >Bas Pruijn
   >Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

i have several highly moded phone lists and  ob6dsk opens them
fine, but does not display any fields that have been changed from
"vanilla" when opening them, but you can open the menu Subset |
Arrange | Show, and pick up the modded fields.


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:25:07 MET
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:07:43 MET.
              <Pine.SOL.3.96.980227193715.8639A-100000@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>

> Subject:      Palmtop emergency
>
Ýsnip¨
> Everything on both EXP and C: drive had either become inaccessible or was
> gone.
>
> During boot-up, I see "Invalid drive specification" and "Invalid drive in
> search path" messages flash by. In Filer, I cannot locate a C: drive. I
> cannot locate the memory part of the EXP card. Absent a C: drive, I cannot
> run the EXP's install program.
>
> With <Cntl><Filer> I see "System RAM: 636" and "RAM disk: 7520", so it
> knows all 8 megs of RAM are there.
>
> I finally bit the bullet, pressed <Cntl><Shift><ON>, and said Y to format.
>
> I now can see my C: drive again, can install the EXP card, can restore
> from the backup ON the EXP card. Which, of course, is NOT current!
>
> At any rate, I want to know what happened to make the C: drive become
> inaccessible, requiring format and restore?
>

Since I have a 2x 8Mb HP200lx (early Jan), occasionally I find a
number of files in the C:  disk corrupt, especially the config.sys
file.  These files show really rubbish.  So, when I happen to do a
ctrl-alt-del, I will find that the reboot hangs.  I have SC and TREMM
installed (but it has happened without TREMM as well), plus Buddy,
moreexm etc.  It has happened at least 4 times now.  In most
cases I had to remove the batteries.

I had SC Buddy before, but not moreexm and tremm.  It has not happened
with my old 2x 4Mb before.  I am at a loss and make daily backups
now:-(

If someone has a clue I would be grateful.

Charles Stroom, ESTEC-D/TOS-MCV

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
European Space Technology Centre, Noordwijk, the Netherlands
Phone: (+31)-71-565.4014 Fax: (+31)-71-565.6142

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:45:42 -0500
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Just found this post on the Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops.

I sent him an email advising he to join The HPLX-L Mailing List,
Home of the HP 100/200LX Master Minds headed by AL Kind.
"You should be up and running in a few days". (:-D


----- forwarded message -----

Message-ID: <34F72C61.7C1A@ibm.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:13:05 -0600
From: Tim Morrison <tim.morrison@ibm.net>
Reply-To: tmorrison@pav.com
Organization: morrison
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Help w/ www/lx and IBM
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.100.186.16
Lines: 15
Path: nntp.earthlink.net!nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov!news.spies.com!news.sgi.com!how=
land.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net=
!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!32.100.186.16

I got a copy of WWW/LX and Post/lx for Xmas and haven't yet succeeded=
 in
connecting.  I continue to use Nettamer but was hoping this was better.

It aborts at the LCP negitiation.

Sent the log files and cfg file to DAsoft and they're stumped.  Of
course they say they've got plenty of users w/o problems and can't
understand why I do.

Anyone out there know the secret.

If I could get the nettamer reader to quit crashing after the HP has
been off and back on, I'd probably stop trying to use WWW/LX.

Tim


----- end of forwarded message -----

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:47:09 -0500
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              mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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Check this list and news groups for used ones.  Going price is $25-$35.

Thaddeus has new ones for <$70.

--- On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:29:17 -0500  Harris <upstate@PIPELINE.COM> wrote:

>Right now I'm desperate for a good 14.4 modem for my 200LX.  I want to get
>one before they disappear!
>
>Can someone recommend a source for these?  Thanks.
>
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Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:15:52 -0100
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      dBase...

Well, i should have given this application a closer look,
earlier! i have been held up in my other studies/writing by the
gift of a full package of dbase IV and have been up late at night
reading the manuals and working it all out on my LX.
(Nothing beats having the manuals!)

Yes, it does run on the palmtop, it takes about 3.5meg with all
the help & tutorial and sample files, but can be skinnied down to
under 2meg.

The ability to import txt, 123, csv's and export to several
different formats and generate applications is great.

It actually runs faster on my standard 200LX than on my ancient
386sx Toshiba, directly due to disk access speeds.

i can seriously recommend dbase as an awesomely powerful program
that will run on our favorite pocketable computer.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: CPACK and Windows 95...

On 1998-02-28 davids@mediamachine.com said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >David-
   >What version is your phone app?  Mine can't open any modded phone
   >databases.  My app is version 1.0
   >-David

David-
Mine shows A.01.11 i got it from www.thaddeus.com/ftp/Ob6dsk.zip
HTH
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.09  - Test Drive

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:41:23 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Organization: Phase IV Systems, Inc.
Subject:      Re: CPACK and Windows 95...
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I promised to forward my Windows 95 settings to someone on the list -
I apologize for no remembering the name. I deleted all my messages in
the digest folder on Friday by accident. Here they are. After
reviewing them for this message, I see a few I want to go play with.
I think I can get it to work when minimized. Now only to get it
running in a windowed session (seems like someone told us how, in one
of those deleted messages):

-Chris Lott

p.s. Why doesn't NT have all these choices? I'd love to customize
some of these things on my office desktop.

========Shortcut Settings for Connectivity Pack in Win95=========

GENERAL TAB:
  HP Connectivity Pack
  Type:         Shortcut to MS-DOS Program
  Location:     Desktop
  Size:         995 bytes (995 bytes)
  MS-DOS name:  HPCONN~1.PIF
  Created:      Monday, January 06, 1997 5:46:18 PM
  Modified:     Saturday, February 28, 1998 10:45:36 AM
  Accessed:     Saturday, February 28, 1998 10:45:36 AM
  Attributes
    Read-Only   ÝUN-CHECKED¨
    Archive     ÝCHECKED¨
    Hidden      ÝUN-CHECKED¨
    System      ÝGRAYED-OUT¨
PROGRAM TAB:
  (Name):               HP Connectivity Pack
  Cmd line:             C:\CPACK200\APP200.BAT
  Working:              C:\CPACK200
  Batch File:           (no entry)
  Shortcut Key:         None
  Run:                  Normal Window
  Close on exit:        ÝCHECKED¨
FONT TAB:
  Available types:              ÝTrue Type Only SELECTED¨
  Font Size:                    Auto
MEMORY TAB:
  Conventional memory
    Total:                      Auto
    Initial environment:        Auto
    Protected:                  ÝUNCHECKED¨
  Expanded (EMS) Memory
    This computer is not configured for EMS in MS-DOS sessions.
  Extended (XMS) Memory
    Total:                      1024
    Uses HMA                    ÝCHECKED¨
  MS-DOS protected-mode (DPMI) memory
    Total:                      Auto
SCREEN TAB:
  Usage
    Full-Screen:                        ÝNOT SELECTED¨
    Window:                             ÝSELECTED¨
    Initial Size:                       25 lines
  Window
    Display toolbar                     ÝCHECKED¨
    Restore Settings on startup:        ÝCHECKED¨
  Performance
    Fast ROM Emulation:                 ÝUN-CHECKED¨
    Dynamic Memory Allocation:          ÝCHECKED¨
MISC TAB:
  Foreground
    Allow Screen Saver                  ÝCHECKED¨
  Mouse
    Quick Edit                          ÝUN-CHECKED¨
    Exclusive Mode                      ÝUN-CHECKED¨
  Background
    Always Suspend                      ÝCHECKED¨
  Termination
    Warn if still active                ÝCHECKED¨
  Idle Sensitivity:                     ÝLOW¨
  Other
    Fast Pacing:                        ÝUN-CHECKED}
  Window shortcut keys
    Alt+Tab                             ÝCHECKED¨
    Alt+Esc                             ÝCHECKED¨
    Ctrl-Esc                            ÝCHECKED¨
    PrtSc                               ÝCHECKED¨
    Alt-PrtSc                           ÝCHECKED¨
    Alt+Enter                           ÝCHECKED¨
    Alt+Space                           ÝCHECKED¨

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R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                               lott@phase4.com
Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate address:
3405 Triana Blvd, SW                                      rclott@ro.com
Huntsville, AL  35805
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:44:06 -0600
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I also promised someone a copy of my PROMPT command. This is used on
my Windows 95 desktop computer at home, and I haven't tried it on my
200LX. I don't see why it wouldn't work, if you have ANSI.SYS loaded:

   PROMPT $EÝ33m$EÝ50C$d $t$EÝ80D$eÝ36m$p$g$eÝ0m

This one displays the date and time on the right side of the screen.
I've made real complicated ones in the past, that displayed security
classifications (like SECRET) on the top and bottom of the screen, so
I know it can be done. Sorry, that was too long ago, and I don't have
access to those files anymore.

-Chris Lott.

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R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                               lott@phase4.com
Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate address:
3405 Triana Blvd, SW                                      rclott@ro.com
Huntsville, AL  35805
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:45:01 -0800
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From:         Stev Cole <arids@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop emergency
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My EXP thin fax becomes nudged out of the slot and I have lost everything on
the card ONLY.
Hope that helps some.
Remember backup, backup & backup.
Steven(;-){--<


Jim Saklad wrote:

> I finished up my day, logged my last case in the database on the palmtop,
> went to my locker, opened the palmtop to make an entry in the shopping
> list, and found it rebooting.
>
> I shut it off, went home, plugged it in to AC, and turned it on again.
>
> This is an originally-1-meg machine that had the 8-meg doublespeed upgrade
> from The Palmtop Paper group months ago, and has an EXP LXM-8 faxmodem-RAM
> card in it.
>
> Everything on both EXP and C: drive had either become inaccessible or was
> gone.
>
> During boot-up, I see "Invalid drive specification" and "Invalid drive in
> search path" messages flash by. In Filer, I cannot locate a C: drive. I
> cannot locate the memory part of the EXP card. Absent a C: drive, I cannot
> run the EXP's install program.
>
> With <Cntl><Filer> I see "System RAM: 636" and "RAM disk: 7520", so it
> knows all 8 megs of RAM are there.
>
> I finally bit the bullet, pressed <Cntl><Shift><ON>, and said Y to format.
>
> I now can see my C: drive again, can install the EXP card, can restore
> from the backup ON the EXP card. Which, of course, is NOT current!
>
> At any rate, I want to know what happened to make the C: drive become
> inaccessible, requiring format and restore?
>
> --
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Jim Saklad                                      mailto:jimdoc@iname.com
>        For PGP public key, finger jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:34:01 -0000
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              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: User Manual?
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.95.980227141549.26768F-100000@zax.whoville.leftb

Sandy,

HM>Anyone have an extra user manual for the 200LX they would be willing to
  >sell?  I have acquired a used HP200LX without a user manual and there are
  >many things I can't figure out just by poking around.

HM>Any assitance would be greatly appreciated.

I bought mine brand new from Thaddeus for $15.  Check out
www.thaddeus.com

Jim

 * 1st 2.00 ~ ~ Speed is fine ... accuracy is final. (Wyatt Earp)

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         AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:24:43 -0800
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I cannot help with C: drive stuff, but EXP yes!

in config.sys make it like so:

DEVICE=3DA:\lxmdrv.sys

That will load the driver from the A: part of EXp.

Good luck on C: drive...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:24:40 -0800
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Bill,

> Any news yet on what effect the 32MB upgrade has on battery life?
> Compared to a 2MB 200LX, say?

Mack says the chips are extremely low power users. I have not
noticed any reduction. I admit that I am also not measuring
anything scientifically, just by impression. Probably I would
not feel any difference if it was withing 5-10%, so within
that range, the battery usage is not changed.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:24:35 -0800
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Jim,

> Does anyone know if it's possible to find duplicate records in a Lotus
> spreadsheet?  For example, in a list of companies with addresses, would

Yes, possible to weed out duplicates. You need to use the Data
set of commands with Unique. It is a long (and boring)
explanation, so may I suggest to get a manual or a book on
Lotus 123? I sort the list, then do Unique on it.

Also, many times I just sort the list and go over it and it is
easy to detect duplicates hthat way, but big lists are a pain
to do manually :( of course...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:24:45 -0800
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Jeff,

> With various replies I've gotten concerning the T2T NiMH batteries and
> ABC/LX software, is it safe to assume that ABC can't automatically =
handle
> the charging of the batteries and I'm better off just to use the =
software to
> keep the charging active for about 16 hours?

Huh? ABC monitors the charging process. I'd recommend the
following: Voltage to stop 2.90v Hours to charge 13-16. Stall
2-3 hours.
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:24:38 -0800
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Ian,

> I was beginning to wonder if i were the only one not seeing any real
> benefit here. <g> Just thinking about 32mb worth of _volatile_ storage
> makes me cringe....

Cringe... But let me tell you this: It is fast, it is big, it
is great! I have now taken to copying the entire C: drive into
a 32MB A: card, then coying it into a Desktop for a backup. I
do the copy several times a day when I work on critical stuff.

I cannot comment on the price - it is a question of utility to
you.
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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