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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 21:47:27 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: 200LX in "The Real McCoy"
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> I was just watching "The Real McCoy," with Kim Basinger and Val Kilmer,
> and as she's preparing to rob the bank, there's a flash of a bunch of
> numbers scrolling on the screen of a unit that's obviously a 200LX.
> Anybody else seen this?

Yeah, I sure have (I own the movie).  But I'd forgotten about it.
Thanks for the reminder!

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
skateboard on the Information Superhighway! --

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:00:15 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> When I push compose I get the address suppoert@dasoft.. in the "To"
> field every time..why is that?

I assume you speak about POST/LX. Seems you have experimented with
composition templates. Press "Compose", then delete the contents of
that field and then choose "SaveTPL" (save template). This saves the
current composition screen as a template for when you press "Compose"
in the future.

> When I download messages from the list.hplx and I want to reply. What
> do I have to do?

If you launch Setup, you can enter a "Moderator" for a news group.
Enter the mailing list address there and the message will be sent by
email to the "moderator" instead of being posted to the newsgroup.

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 22:04:44 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 31 May 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> Yeah, I sure have (I own the movie).  But I'd forgotten about it.
> Thanks for the reminder!

It was funny... I saw that, played it back, and said, "That looks like a
200LX, with the rounded hinge, but it can't be.  The 200LX doesn't have
function key numbers right under the screen like that."  Then I whipped
mine out, and ... sure enough, it does.  I guess it just goes to show how
inobservant I am.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:42:39 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Reinhard,

>=20
> Maybe I will look for a CF. Does anybody of the german readers
> know where to get them here at a reasonable price?

Ja, ich habe mir k=FCrzlich eine 48 MB CF Sandisk f=FCr 349 DM gekauft.
Und zwar bei HD-Computer.

Ich kann Dir die Telefonnummer geben, die Adresse habe ich leider nicht
zur Hand:

HD Computer Berlin
030/69401580

Die sind Vertragsh=E4ndler von Sandisk und hatten die besten Preise von
allen Computerh=E4ndlern in Berlin, bei denen ich nachgeforscht hatte.

Der Preis von 349 DM ist schon seit mehreren Monaten aktuell, ich wei=DF
nicht, ob er in n=E4chster Zeit noch fallen word.

Einen PCMCIA-Adapter haben die bei Hd auch, ich glaube, der hat um 30
DM gekostet. Den gibt's evtl. woanders g=FCnstiger.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 23:07:29 -0700
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              Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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I have just gotten WWW/LX Plus and Post/LX installed & functional on my
200lx.  When I push "compose" to generate a message, I get the message
header format with my email address plugged in, however when I tab down to
the "Text" section where I expect to compose my message, I only have one
line of text (in a faint outline of a long text box) in which to enter my
message, (where it says "F3 or ENTER to edit") which extends about 200
characters across the screen if your message is that long.  I don't
understand how to get Post/LX to generate a message like the more
traditional email clients do that operate on desktop machines (Eudora,
etc.).  I can push F2 (Add) to generate another "line" with the word "text"
next to it, ;but this seems a bit unusual. Will the "long" lines of text in
each "box" wrap correctly on the recipient's screen?   Is this really the
way to compose a longer message?

TIA,

Al Creswell
Salem Oregon
Al

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:11:34 +0700
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>

Using GP on my 4Mb 200LX is fun and I am thinking of registering.
GP is run from the C: from a clean enviroment with an internal modem card.
To do that there is a small bat file which produces a small file and
than reboots. If this file is detected the cic100 is loaded and the
GP is started.
After I leave GP the normal autoexec is completed after an reboot.
This method suites me fine.
It happens although that I forget to extract the modem card from the 200 and
then the autoexec is running into problems because a lot of applications are
not available. I know that there are several (?) programs which detect that
no card is available but is there also something which detects what kind of
card is inserted?
                              \\|||//
                              (o) (o)
==========================.oOO==( )==OOo.===============================

                    Constant Brouerius van Nidek
                       constant@indo.net.id
                        Bogor - Indonesia
                           .oooO   Oooo.
===========================(   )===(   )================================
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                             \_)   (_/
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:12:19 -0700
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              zot2u <zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hi qman,

zot2u@earthlink.net has temporarily stopped business for awhile due an
injury.  However we still carry many of the rare and unique accessories
for the HP200LX.

I do have one backlight kit left and it is for sale with the following
conditions:

1. Last one brand new anywhere HP200LX backlight kit = $150.
2. Sales is in person only in Southern California
3. Have a brave soul bc if u have never done this is before u will
destroy about 5 screens before successfully get one screen put back
correctly.

zot2u@earthlink.net also have the type 3 hd's for the HP200LX with a
type 2 pcmcia card addaptor.

Hope u are in So. California.





qman@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> As of Mon, 1 Feb 1999 you had:
> Backlight kit $100                      quan. 10.
>
> I was wonder if you still had any left? If so I'd like to get one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>
> HPLX.NET Affiliated
> http://qman.hplx.net
>
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:01:38 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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On 06-01 07:11am, you wrote

> Using GP on my 4Mb 200LX is fun and I am thinking of registering.
> GP is run from the C: from a clean enviroment with an internal modem card.
> To do that there is a small bat file which produces a small file and
> than reboots. If this file is detected the cic100 is loaded and the
> GP is started.

I suppose the only reason for your boot-reboot method is to not
have cic100 loaded all the time. lxcic which can be found on the
Super-site can be unloaded from memory with a switch. So if you
use it, you will save a lot of time. I don't see any other
reason to reboot.
write a batch file which starts lxcic, calls gp and finally
unloads lxcic. Insert the "pause" command where you want to
reinsert the flashcard again. You may want to call this
batchfile from sysmgr with maxdos.

Reinhard


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Axel,

> > if I use Memo as Editor for X-Finder with the following:
> > > %e,b800,240r||memo (as suggested by Peniel)
> >
> > This editor setting does not work right, memo is now starting, but
> > empty, not with the chosed file as content. Memo starts and opens
> > automatically the Menu "Format" with the checkbox for "Textformat", =
where
> > You can chose the options bold + underlined. I don't know to fix this =
or
> > how it can be defined, maybe it has to do with my german-language-palm=
top?

Sor far I know, MEMO B800 C800 2166 0231 will launch Memo on an English
language palmtop, and  for a German language palmtop, specify MEMO
B800 C800 2064 0231.

These are the settings, which I use with post/lx on an english hp200lx
and on a german hp200lx. I don't know, what the syntax is using
xfinder.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:33:55 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Al Creswell wrote:
> line of text (in a faint outline of a long text box) in which to enter my
> message, (where it says "F3 or ENTER to edit")

Did you try pressing F3 or ENTER with the cursor in that field? This
opens the editor of your choice (provided it is configured correctly in
the setup).

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:18:13 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I have a 1 mb hp 200 which I use with a 24 mb compactflash card and a
external modem via the serial. I use maxdos to run www and start
post/lx offline.

Then I go online and download mail from 3 mailaccounts and headers from
32 newsgroups.

My problem is that when I go throug the newsgroups and choose the ones
for download..when I am at the bottom and push the downkey to get the
"Selection done message" I instead get this:

"Fatal error: Palmemfail Out of memory" Then Post/lx exits and I am
back to sysmgr.

In newsgroups where there are only one message {only the session
report} I can push the downkey and get the "Selection done
message/delete the rest"

I have tried to run www/lx outside the sysmgr and without maxdos but I
get the same result. I have files=3D50 in the config.sys. I have tried to
increase the buffers,stacks and files in the config.sys, but nothing
helps.

The only thing I can try is to delete newsgroups and see if it works
then..it worked before I added all the newsgroups..any suggestions?

Well I deleted some newsgroups and are now down to 27. It seems to be
working okey now..first the "Selection completed message" reappered
and then I got the Fatal error again. I then deleted some more
newsgroups and now I also get the "Delete the rest messsage" too..

Is 27 newsgroups the limit for www/lx/post/lx??
Din't the helpfile talk about a limit of 100 folders?

Thanks in advance

--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462

Written on a Hp200Lx using WWW/LX+

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:37:44 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> "Fatal error: Palmemfail Out of memory" Then Post/lx exits and I am
> back to sysmgr.

The most "memory hungry" part is the CFG file, which is loaded into
memory with quite a bit of overhead. Try to shrink it as good as you
can, e.g. remove all comments, delete stuff that you don't use. Use
short names.

> Is 27 newsgroups the limit for www/lx/post/lx??
> Din't the helpfile talk about a limit of 100 folders?

Limits are given by the amount of memory, not by a number of objects.
Unfortunately, there is not that much memory POST/LX can use.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:53:11 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      FLUFF: OS Creep

Dust of your palmtops everyone 'cause when the new Windows 2000 and Office
apps hit the street (in 18-24 months or so) Pentiums'll bog down to a crawl
and folks will wonder how you get things done so fast w/ your instant-on,
palm-sized techno-wonder ;-)

http://www.intel.com/tech/work/desktop/csa_report.doc

The above link takes you to an Intel report describing why you need to buy
faster processors ÝI know ... it's like reading a brewing industry report on
health benefits of beer (which are many ;->  ) but it's an interesting
story¨.

Just another reason why I love my LX.  People really are amazed when I'm
"suddenly hit w/ inspiration" or pull it out in a press conference and get
dynamite notes down in a hurry w/o waiting for boot-up, etc.  Neat thing is,
as computers bog down more and more, folks'll be even more impressed w/ our
little "information appliance!  Since this is "fluff" I'll end here Ýtrying
not to take too many lines! ;-)   ¨.

--tim
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:00:54 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: New HP gadget
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> Date:    Fri, 28 May 1999 05:04:10 -0500
> From:    Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
> Subject: Re: FLUFF: New HP gadget
>

(snip)

> Oh thats just great Longden, just as I was putting the finishing
> touches on presenting a business case to my wife of why I just had to
> have the new CapShare, you go and throw a twist into it and bring up
> the camera thing.  Now what am I supposed to do?  If I try to
convince

Run the numbers - a camera, to equal the CapShare's 300dpi resolution
would have to have a 2400 x 3000 pixel screen. You're talking high
price there. Even getting half (linearly, or 150 DPI) that (Kodak's 265
for example) will cost a full $1000. Plus, you need to worry about
keeping the focal plane parallel to the source. And worry about light
level, glare (from glossy pages) and curved (read: bound) pages. Stick
with the CapShare for document capture.

You might try selling the camera as "instant viewing of the pictures",
"save money on film (but don't mention all the CF cards you'll be
getting)", and "better permanence (once you blast them to CD-ROM - so
you can now get a CD-R unit, too ;¬{)#  )" - giving you a threefor!

> her why I need to go the camera route, she will tell me we already
have
> one, and she won't understand why that has nothing to do with it,
that I
> have to have this new one.  Way too many toys I guess, or is that
> possible?  I know I can't take them all with me, but how about just
my

Nope, until the dreaded day arrives (as it was supposed to have back in
the mid-19th century) when there's "nothing left to invent".

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:57:02 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I did some investigation into these Otterboxes that were mentioned on
the list a week or so ago. I got a series 2000, 3000 and 3500. The 2000
is just a little bit too short, the 3500 is too thick and kind of looks
like a toolbox, but the 3000 is almost perfect. It's a bit long, but the
width and depth are perfect.  The extra length can be used for a couple
of spare AA batteries. The boxes are nicely made, very tough, waterproof
and are lined with closed cell foam. The foam actually compresses into
the ridges of the 200LX lid just enough so it will not move inside the
box when the lid is latched shut. Best color seems to be all black or
black with a clear lid.

Otterbox said that you can usually find these things at dive shops for
full retail; $19.90 for the series 3000. I am toying with the idea of
buying a few for resale at a bit better price. I can do them for $20
including priority mail shipping in the USA ($16.80 for the box and
$3.20 for the postage). Ten is the minimum order. Let me know if you
are interested and reply to me directly, of course.

http://www.palmtop.net/img/otterbox.jpg
http://www.otterbox.com
--
Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:32:39 +0800
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              "Roger S." <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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Subject:      ccLXPOP help needed
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Hi, list
I'm trying to run this on my 2M SP 200LX using AT&T PCMCI modem "KEEP IN =
TOUCH" (IT IS A 28.8K DATA FAX MODEM.
I run the LXCIC before the emailwrk.bat, it recogonised the modem ok, =
and I also heard the dial tone. But after that, it is complete silent. =
ThenI got the following:

Warning: read() on stdin returned 0
Failed
PPP link is down. Driver not installed.

c:\cclxpop
ccLXPOP - a ccMail conversion tool Version 1.0
By Brian McIlvaine.........
No PACKET DRIVER FOUND
Program halted

c:\termin 0x60
Packet driver terminate version 11.1 copyright.....

termin: no packet driver at that address

Any idea what had I missed?=20
Thanks for the help.

Roger S.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi, list</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm trying to run this on my 2M SP 200LX using =
AT&amp;T PCMCI=20
modem "KEEP IN TOUCH" (IT IS A 28.8K DATA FAX MODEM.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I run the LXCIC before the emailwrk.bat, it =
recogonised the=20
modem ok, and I also heard the dial tone. But after that, it is complete =
silent.=20
ThenI got the following:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Warning: read() on stdin returned 0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Failed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PPP link is down. Driver not installed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>c:\cclxpop</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ccLXPOP - a ccMail conversion tool Version =
1.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>By Brian McIlvaine.........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No PACKET DRIVER FOUND</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Program halted</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>c:\termin 0x60</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Packet driver terminate version 11.1=20
copyright.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>termin: no packet driver at that =
address</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any idea what had I missed? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for the help.</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:53:10 -0400
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Roger,

epppd is not syncing up with your ISP. You need to check your settings in your
pppd.cfg file and make sure those are correct. If your ISP doesn't support the
bootp protocol, I'm not sure how to proceed, to be honest. I do know there are
others on the list who have gotten it working without the bootp protocol.

Brian

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The ISP does not need to support BOOTP.  The EPPPD driver emulates
a BOOTP server.  Thus, EPPPD gets its setup parameters from the config
file or command line, and when the WATTCP stack sends a BOOTP request
the EPPPD driver intercepts it and replies as if it were a BOOTP server
at the ISP.

> If your ISP doesn't support the bootp protocol, I'm not sure how to
> proceed, to be honest. I do know there are others on the list who have
> gotten it working without the bootp protocol.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:31:54 -700
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Comments: To: molitor@moli.franken.de

On 1999-06-01 molitor@moli.franken.de said:
 mo>On 06-01 07:11am, you wrote
 mo>> Using GP on my 4Mb 200LX is fun and I am thinking of registering.
 mo>> GP is run from the C: from a clean enviroment with an internal
 mo>>modem card.  To do that there is a small bat file which produces a
 mo>>small file and  than reboots. If this file is detected the cic100
 mo>>is loaded and the  GP is started.
 mo>I suppose the only reason for your boot-reboot method is to not
 mo>have cic100 loaded all the time. lxcic which can be found on the
 mo>Super-site can be unloaded from memory with a switch. So if you
 mo>use it, you will save a lot of time. I don't see any other
 mo>reason to reboot.
 mo>write a batch file which starts lxcic, calls gp and finally
 mo>unloads lxcic. Insert the "pause" command where you want to
 mo>reinsert the flashcard again. You may want to call this
 mo>batchfile from sysmgr with maxdos.
 mo>Reinhard
 mo>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.07beta) REGISTERED
Thanks Reinhard,
I know of lxcic but I really like to have as much memory and a clean
environment when I am using my modem.
I also sometimes use Nettamer and found that sometimes unexplainable things
happen due to some program leftovers (?). By not having Buddy, Click and
other standard programs in the way I feel safer and happier, especially as I
have to pay for my time on the phone per minute. If I cannot start Goin'
Postal with the script (that is mostly if I am underway) I tend to use
Nettamer to see what the ISP is doing with my request. I like to use GP
though, especially if I am on my way because it lets me see what is on my
mail server and pick those things which I really need. The rest is for the
desk top with Nettamer.
*DOS: For IQs higher than 95 and 98!

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Subject:      FLUFF Re: FreeCell 947293 - difficult/impossible?
Comments: To: pprime@GENAUST.com.au
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Item Subject: FreeCell 947293 - difficult/impossible?
     I fancy myself as being rather good at FreeCell and this one has me
     stumped also.  So far anyway.

     Thanks for the challenge and the humbling experience.

     Sally


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          Hello,

     Curtis Cameron's FreeCell is a great game, we have spent many hours
     with it and many hundreds of games have all been ultimately solved.
     (many thanks, Curtis).

     However, my wife and I have both been stymied by game no 947293.



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Hi Roger

First step is to make sure you have enough memory if you are running it under
system manager. You want to make sure you have at least 200k for the packet
driver.

John

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Hi, list
I'm trying to run this on my 2M SP 200LX using AT&T PCMCI modem "KEEP IN =
TOUCH" (IT IS A 28.8K DATA FAX MODEM.
I run the LXCIC before the emailwrk.bat, it recogonised the modem ok, =
and I also heard the dial tone. But after that, it is complete silent. =
ThenI got the following:

Warning: read() on stdin returned 0
Failed
PPP link is down. Driver not installed.

c:\cclxpop
ccLXPOP - a ccMail conversion tool Version 1.0
By Brian McIlvaine.........
No PACKET DRIVER FOUND
Program halted

c:\termin 0x60
Packet driver terminate version 11.1 copyright.....

termin: no packet driver at that address

Any idea what had I missed?=20
Thanks for the help.

Roger S.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:54:25 +0200
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Hej!

If You live in Sweden then You are familiar with the lack of "red days"
in Appointments.
This file at:

http://hem.fyristorg.com/hello

will fix that.
Merge Helg.adb with Your Appointment file and all(most) the hollidays
are added.
Some only lasts to 2001 and some to 2034 something.
I had some problem to make Pingst and some others repetetive.

      /tomas moberg
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Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> Is there a way to launch an application with the Daily Greeting?  It would
> be neat to have the Appt program show the daily appointments and then fire
> up ToDo.exm to show the other tasks that need attending to.
>
> Did anyone figure out a way to have the 200lx turn itself on in the middle
> of the night to initialize the daily greeting, then power down, so that
> turning it on in the morning is a tad faster?
>
I have not tried this yet, but may be by setting an alarm for past
midnight to launch a/any application can cause the greeting to activate.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:00:34 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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>      I fancy myself as being rather good at FreeCell and this one has me
>      stumped also.  So far anyway.
>      Sally

Me too!  :-(
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I've heard people talk about it with dread:
opening a note field and getting an "out of
memory" message, and the resulting corruption of
their database. I've experienced it.

I think I may have found a solution: When you get
the error message, do a cold reboot. This way, the
database app doesn't have a chance to save
anything back to the disk and hopefully your
database hasn't been corrupted yet.

Seems to have worked for me.

Am I missing something here?

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Some time back, someone was going to see about getting the manufacturer of
the Palmtop Circuit to re-release the software but it was going to cost $80.
My first knee jerk reaction was that I couldn't afford that much but, I do
have somewhat of a need for this type of software. One thing that I would
like to know is what type of components can be used with this software?
Would I be able to use some of the component libraries from SPICE or other
similar circuit design programs to work with the Palmtop Circuit software?
Maybe the gentleman that was offering the assistance with getting the
software can email me directly or if there is anyone on the list that
happens to have bought a copy could let me know I would really appreciate.
Before I consider even thinking about spending $80, I want to make sure that
I could update the components with current libraries and continue to update
as new components are 'dreamed up' by manufacturers. TIA!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 16:53:22 +1000
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              Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
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I also use a serial to parallel converter to print to an HP 340 Deskjet.
It's fabulously fast, in fact printing my acounts for patients was quicker
than my desktop (133 pentium). I also connect to the serial port of an Oki
Laser 800 at work at 9600 baud and it goes like the clappers.

The only thing the hp 200lx is slow on is graphics/tables from within WP
5.1 - if it's plain text and straight lines then no problem.

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 15:20:38 +1000
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Subject:      Re: FreeCell 947293 - difficult/impossible?
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In V 2.5 just type S - it will display the game number you are in.

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Me neither!

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:37:46 -0500
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I downloaded Breakout today, but it seems to run extremely fast on my speed
doubled machine. Is that the speed it is supposed to run or does it run
slower on 'stock' machines? Does anyone have one of each to campare?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:53:27 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Modifying Phone Book
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Andreas Garzotto wrote:

>Rename it from PDB to GDB, open it in the database application and
>modify it, then name it back to PDB. Make a backup first!

I've seen this several times, so I'd like to point out that (at least
on my machine) it's not even necessary to rename the file - just open
it with the database app using the PDB extension.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Here's another way to get control over the Daily Greeting.  Shut off the
automatic display of the greeting. Then use the GREETCR.COM program to
display the greeting whenever you want it. To get fancy, use EXMBATCH to
create a "loader" called GREET.EXM which can be assigned to a hot-key.  I=
f
you want the Daily Greeting to start another program, I don't think that'=
s
possible. =


.ed.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:24:44 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I downloaded Breakout today, but it seems to run extremely fast on my
speed
> doubled machine. Is that the speed it is supposed to run or does it run
> slower on 'stock' machines? Does anyone have one of each to campare?

Use the SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key to go into a fake slow mode and see if that
helps.

Use the SHIFT-CTRL-UP and SHIFT-CTRL-DOWN to go slower or faster
respectively.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:31:25 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Is this "fake slowdown" mode part of the spd driver?
  In what sense is the slowdown mode "fake"?
  Will this mode potentially cause any problems in any of the driver
adaptations?  (baud rate, screen adjustment, etc...)

  Inquiring minds want to know,
                             ... John L. Stanley

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mack Baggette Ýmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
... snip ...
>
> Use the SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key to go into a fake slow mode and see if that
> helps.

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On 01-Jun-99, Ed Keefe wrote:
> Here's another way to get control over the Daily Greeting.  Shut off the
> automatic display of the greeting. Then use the GREETCR.COM program to
> display the greeting whenever you want it. To get fancy, use EXMBATCH to
> create a "loader" called GREET.EXM which can be assigned to a hot-key.  If
> you want the Daily Greeting to start another program, I don't think that's
> possible.

Buddy has this kind of function.  You can set the greeting time and can call
it up anytime using {fn-*}.

I still haven't found a good solution for this (and I think that it's been
asked a few times since I've been reading HPLX-L, which isn't that long)
and no one has been able to offer a good answer to the problem.

My new solution is to wake up 30 seconds earlier to account for this
"load-up" time.

=¬D

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:38:59 -0500
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On 06-01 06:24pm CDT, the following was written:

> Use the SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key to go into a fake slow mode and see if that
> helps.
>
> Use the SHIFT-CTRL-UP and SHIFT-CTRL-DOWN to go slower or faster
> respectively.

Cool! Works great! Thanks Mack!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:09:30 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>   Is this "fake slowdown" mode part of the spd driver?
>   In what sense is the slowdown mode "fake"?
>   Will this mode potentially cause any problems in any of the driver
> adaptations?  (baud rate, screen adjustment, etc...)

It is part of the speed upgrade driver.  It is fake in the sense that it
puts a delay loop in the INT 08 timer interrupt.  It shouldn't affect any of
the other components of the speed upgrade driver such as screen, baud rate,
etc., but it could affect the overall operation of the palmtop and other
drivers.

It was added to be used with games only.  I also use the same trick to slow
down alarms to regular speed which is part of the spdalrm.tsr driver.

Cheers,
Mack

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On 06-01 07:09pm CDT, the following was written:

> It was added to be used with games only.  I also use the same trick to slow
> down alarms to regular speed which is part of the spdalrm.tsr driver.

This is a cool little trick! It's kinda like MoSlo that I use on my Pentium
to slow down old games to a 'playable' speed.

73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:28:24 EDT
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Subject:      Re: FreeCell 947293 - difficult/impossible?
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Is this the game that starts with
5S, 5C, 10H, KD, JH, 10C, 5H, KC

across the top, and the AC played,

or did I mis-input the game number (playing v 2.6)?

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:00:09 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Any conversion for p.pilot .PDB?

Ack!!

Finding LOTS of free documents on ZDNET for the Palm Pilot, they're in the
proprietary *Palm Pilot* version of PDB.  Does anyone have the ability to
convert these to ASCII or "real .PDBs" <grin>.

I can't open SUPER right now, from work and am going home to try it <they've
been talking about blocking certain blocks of external IP addresses, hope
SUPER didn't get caught in the crunch!

TIA

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:15:40 +0930
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              David Bird <dbird@PHYSICS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
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Hi to you all.

I am off to the U.S. in a couple of weeks for 6 days
and am interested in picking up a Diamond Rio Special Edition
MP3 Player and memory card. I will
be in the Arlington area (Crystal City), just outside Washington DC.
Any suggestions on where the best place to get one would be would be
greatly appreciated.
I will probably not have a lot of time to look around, so price
is not too important (full retail is a lot cheaper than any price here
in Australia).

I did live in the US for 4 years a few years back, but spent most of my
time in the West (Utah and Arizona), and have only been to DC for a week
once many years ago.

Please reply directly to me.

Now, to add a HP flavour, a while back someone mentioned the
possibility of using the HP200LX to download files to the Rio
(the specs for doing this have been posted somewhere). Has anyone
developed this at all ?

Thanks in advance

David Bird

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:08:00 +0000
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I have recently located the source of a nice 200LX case.  The case is made of nylon fabric covered neoprene, is fabricated to exactly fit the 200LX, has a nice belt loop and a small acccessory pocket for a couple of AA's or a PCMCIA card and comes in several colors.  The company is The Pouch in Pheonix, AZ and their phone number is (800)727-6824.  The have a web site at www.thepouch.com.

Alan Kirk

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:58:30 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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How do you get the View option to show ANSI text rather than a hex dump? =

I've deactivated the ASCII check box. =

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:16:30 -0700
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              Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Tech: Post/LX Question
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>Did you try pressing F3 or ENTER with the cursor in that field?

Andreas,

Sorry...forgot to mention that what I was describing was the result of
doing that.  When I pushed either key, I get a little dialog box which
states: "Editing...Please press ENTER   OK".  Pressing ENTER puts me back
to  the little "one line box" for text entry.

I've been running Post/LX from the AppMgr, so I left the default editor as
MEMO b800 c800 2166 0231.  I'm not sure what "b800 c800...etc". stands for,
and the docs I've been able to find so far don't seem to explain this part.
 What do I need to change to get MEMO to come up when I go to "compose"?

Post/LX seems to take a lot of memory; I tried editing Post/LX setup to
minimize the amount of memory used, but it will not run with any
designation less than the max memory available (no value included after the
| symbol).  Do I need to be running from DOS instead?  I don't think
anything else is running other than AppManager, WWW/LX and Post/LX.


TIA,

Al


After much thought and contemplation, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>Al Creswell wrote:
>> line of text (in a faint outline of a long text box) in which to enter my
>> message, (where it says "F3 or ENTER to edit")
>
>Did you try pressing F3 or ENTER with the cursor in that field? This
>opens the editor of your choice (provided it is configured correctly in
>the setup).
>
>Andreas
>
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>
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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:20:47 -0500
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On 06-02 12:16am CDT, the following was written:

> Do I need to be running from DOS instead?  I don't think
> anything else is running other than AppManager, WWW/LX and Post/LX.

When running it I do so from AppManager with MaxDOS and it will do the trick
for you. I also run Goin' Postal with MaxDOS. Goin' Postal isn't quite as
memory hungry as POST/LX but when using PGP from within GP, it's almost a
necessity. Good luck!

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQCVAwUBN1S/BoJNDMXdtrgZAQFMvAQAzDrBNUOFSVT/JEcLH6upqQP/9dq6NXj2
z5uginflkIx4P+FKTpn4R8fm6B8gq853GU9TJRWhKeBFJobFEYU4KR8xNp5tOQKl
hh68kSGdxfo7oX2A4E6nSLZsw0JF4klIZWG66eEmsAH+q7PQjs51KO0HR5JiQoIl
dWpF0IW2gGU=
=hLdq
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:49:25 -0700
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              Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Thanks for the tip Jeff; I think I saw a reference indicating Maxdos is at
the SUPER site...I'll find it!

I also have GP, but haven't installed it.  I've only got so much time to
tinker, and I already have this loaded and **almost** running!

73,
Al, KQ7X



After much thought and contemplation, Jeff Johns wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>On 06-02 12:16am CDT, the following was written:
>
>> Do I need to be running from DOS instead?  I don't think
>> anything else is running other than AppManager, WWW/LX and Post/LX.
>
>When running it I do so from AppManager with MaxDOS and it will do the trick
>for you. I also run Goin' Postal with MaxDOS. Goin' Postal isn't quite as
>memory hungry as POST/LX but when using PGP from within GP, it's almost a
>necessity. Good luck!
>
>73 Jeff W4JEF
Al

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:00:18 -0600
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Has anyone else noticed there is not much for fractional exponent functions
past square roots in Derive. Not even a cubed root sign or function. It's not a
big deal but it does take a lot longer to enter an equation with no hot keys
for the symbols.

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:34:24 +0100
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
> I've seen this several times, so I'd like to point out that (at least
> on my machine) it's not even necessary to rename the file - just open
> it with the database app using the PDB extension.

Didn't know that. Thanks!

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:37:39 +0100
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              John Waller <Hp100Lx@JWALLER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Hi

Can anybody tell me how to programmatically retrieve a file
from an LX?

As a user I can easily use Transfile200 to copy a file but I want to do it
from within a program. My preferred solution would be using VisualBasic but
if anyone can tell me how to do it in any other language then I could probably work it out.

Thanks,

John

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:57:03 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>Finding LOTS of free documents on ZDNET for the Palm Pilot, they're in
>the proprietary *Palm Pilot* version of PDB.  Does anyone have the
>ability to convert these to ASCII or "real .PDBs" <grin>.

I uploaded PRC2TXT.COM (410 bytes program) some time ago. It will also
handle PDBs. I have used it for plenty of books. There is also a utility =
to
format l-o-n-g lines to whatever screen width you wish - it is better at
this task than the UNIX version as the UNIX version concatenates lines if=
 a
line is short.

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:07:05 -0700
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I've been reading the latest edition of PTP (great issue!) and have noticed
that there are several references to the PTP downloads area:
www.palmtoppaper.com/download.htm.  However, when I go to that URL, I get a
page with links to SUPER, but no reference to any of the files that the
print version said would be available online.

What am I doing wrong?

-- Terry

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:42:04 +0100
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Al Creswell wrote:
> Sorry...forgot to mention that what I was describing was the result of
> doing that.  When I pushed either key, I get a little dialog box which
> states: "Editing...Please press ENTER   OK".  Pressing ENTER puts me back
> to  the little "one line box" for text entry.

Seems that you either do not have enough memory the way you run the
program or the editor is not configured properly.

> I've been running Post/LX from the AppMgr, so I left the default editor as
> MEMO b800 c800 2166 0231.  I'm not sure what "b800 c800...etc". stands for,
> and the docs I've been able to find so far don't seem to explain this part.

These entries are specified in the SETUP program. Press F1 to get
online help for the current field in the SETUP program.

> What do I need to change to get MEMO to come up when I go to "compose"?

If you have an American English palmtop, you can leave the original
string in there (the values are scancodes of keys to press - and they
unfortunately differ in localised versions of the palmtops).

Most likely, you gave ALL memory to the DOS session and therefore, MEMO
cannot be launched. Or you have an upside down exclamation mark in the
Comments field of Application Manager. If so, System Manager does not
allow to switch to other applications such as MEMO.

> Post/LX seems to take a lot of memory;

Try to compare it with other email clients such as Netscape or Eudora
and then please reconsider that statement ;-)

> minimize the amount of memory used, but it will not run with any
> designation less than the max memory available

There are lots of tips and tricks to get more memory (close filer
patch, remove TSRs etc.) but there is also one simple solution that
solves (almost) all memory problems in a simple way: get MaxDOS. This
allows you to use POST/LX from SysMgr and still give it more than 500k
of RAM. This is more than enough to run POST/LX and an external editor
such as PE at the same time.

> After much thought and contemplation, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

Really? :-)

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:42:05 +0100
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> When running it I do so from AppManager with MaxDOS and it will do the trick
> for you. I also run Goin' Postal with MaxDOS.

I think MaxDOS is one of the greatest utilities for the palmtop. People
have not yet found out how useful it really is!

> Goin' Postal isn't quite as
> memory hungry as POST/LX

Why do you think so? And why do you say POST/LX is memory hungry?

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:02:37 -0400
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX
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What, you can use PCMCIA Type III hard drives with the HP LX?
I understand the need for the type II to Type III adapter, but I would
not have thought the DOS built-in would be able to handle the HD!

Please confirm this for me...

Thanks,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: zot2u <zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX


>zot2u@earthlink.net also have the type 3 hd's for the HP200LX with a
>type 2 pcmcia card addaptor.

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Thank you all for the advs.
It was actually because I type in the wrong phone number of my ISP. It is
working perfectly now, except I can't use the PCMCIA modem that I hv. It draws
too much current. First, I got a error msg while downloading, then I got "main
battery low". I'm using an external modem and it is perfect.
This is really a wonderful program, and the set up isn't really that difficult.
Thanks Brian.

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When I read something interesting in a newsgroup I sometimes forward
them too my brother.

How can I do that with Post/Lx. When I push "Forward" I only get a
"Newsgroup" header..I can add a "CC:" header, but their have to be
another way of doing this that I am not aware of?

Thanks i advance..

--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> When I read something interesting in a newsgroup I sometimes forward
> them too my brother.
>
> How can I do that with Post/Lx. When I push "Forward" I only get a
> "Newsgroup" header..

Press Shift with the key to reply/forward and POST/LX asks you for a
mailbox/folder to put the message into.

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Subject:      Re: Get files from a 100LX
Comments: To: Hp100Lx@JWALLER.DEMON.CO.UK

John,
If you are running Windows 95 or 98 why don't you try LLRA and some simple batch files? If you're running NT this won't work because LLRA won't work.
There are other programs available on SUPER which do the same thing (i.e. Zip).

I think activity on the serial port "wakes up" the HP. There are others on this list who know far more than I do.

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I find your question hard to respond to because you don't describe
(1) what you are talking to your 100lx with; (2) what OS you are
using; or (3) how you are connecting. My answer to your question
would be very different if you are talking 100lx <-> 100lx from,
for example, 100lx <-> Mac...

John Waller wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Can anybody tell me how to programmatically retrieve a file
> from an LX?
>
> As a user I can easily use Transfile200 to copy a file but I want to do it
> from within a program. My preferred solution would be using VisualBasic but
> if anyone can tell me how to do it in any other language then I could probably work it out.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>  John Waller
>  john@jwaller.demon.co.uk

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Wed,  2 Jun 1999 09:47:31 -0400 (EDT)

16h09m09s ago ...
On Tue,  1 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I downloaded Breakout today, but it seems to run extremely fast on my =
speed
> doubled machine. Is that the speed it is supposed to run or does it run
> slower on 'stock' machines? Does anyone have one of each to campare?

Hi, Jeff and group-

Just DLd and tried the game.  Very cool!

Besides using the slowdown function of the T2T driver, breakout
includes a slowdown provision.  Try launching it with a number  e.g.
        bricks 15    to add a 15mS delay into the timing...

HTH

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Maybe this is a "feature" of the free version.  I get the same results.  F4/EDIT
helps somewhat for text viewing.

I notice the HELP also mentions a customizable TOOLS menu to add applications,
but this doesn't seem evident in the free version I downloaded from the HP site.

- Longden





Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM> on 06/01/99 08:58:30 PM

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How do you get the View option to show ANSI text rather than a hex dump?
I've deactivated the ASCII check box.

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Roger -

You are welcome! Glad you got it working. Version 1.03 is in super secret (OK
not so secret) testing right now which includes an off line indexer that allows
you to read newsgroups as well.

Brian


_________________Reply Seperator__________________

Thank you all for the advs.
It was actually because I type in the wrong phone number of my ISP. It is
working perfectly now, except I can't use the PCMCIA modem that I hv. It draws
too much current. First, I got a error msg while downloading, then I got "main
battery low". I'm using an external modem and it is perfect.
This is really a wonderful program, and the set up isn't really that difficult.
Thanks Brian.

Roger S.

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Where are you finding "Breakout"?

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On 06-02 09:34am CDT, the following was written:

> Where are you finding "Breakout"?

http:\\www.palmtop.net

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

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Terrence,

>> However, when I go to that URL, I get a
page with links to SUPER, but no reference to any of the files that the
print version said would be available online.

What am I doing wrong?<<

Nothing wrong.  You just skipped the final step: type a keyword in the
search field and click Fetch! Sometimes, the filename given in the Paper
and the filename on the Super site are slightly different. Keyword search=
es
resolve that problem.

Glad you liked the issue. =


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Anand Rao,

Thanks for the well thought-out response. The conflict resolution part an=
d
the part dealing with deleted records remain the toughest parts of the
task.  I agree, the user should be able to map the fields. However, there=

should also be a default of all fields to start with. The CPack has a
conflict resolution scheme somewhat like the one you suggested. It works
pretty well for the most part.  =


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Subject:      Re: Any conversion for p.pilot .PDB?
Comments: To: Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Hi,

>I uploaded PRC2TXT.COM (410 bytes program) some time ago. It will also
>handle PDBs. I have used it for plenty of books. There is also a utility to
format l-o-n-g lines to whatever screen width you wish ....

I hunted for this one on SUPER and www.shareware.com; couldn't find it. Is
it a shareware thing, commercial, etc.?  Ýi.e. Where could I find it now?¨.

If it's shareware, maybe you could send it to SUPER for posting to all....

TIA,

--tim

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You didn't hear it dial up or do hand-shaking?

Could that be a problem with the chat script or
some other chat setting?  Anyone?

Don.

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From:   Roger S.ÝSMTP:rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM¨
Sent:   Tuesday, June 01, 1999 8:32 AM
Subject:        ccLXPOP help needed

Hi, list
I'm trying to run this on my 2M SP 200LX using AT&T PCMCI modem "KEEP IN =
TOUCH"=20
(IT IS A 28.8K DATA FAX MODEM.
I run the LXCIC before the emailwrk.bat, it recogonised the modem ok, =
and I also heard the dial tone. But after that, it is complete silent. =
Then I got the following

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Wed,  2 Jun 1999 12:21:10 -0400 (EDT)

44m32s ago ...
On Wed,  2 Jun 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> >I uploaded PRC2TXT.COM (410 bytes program) some time ago. It will also
> >handle PDBs.

> I hunted for this one on SUPER and www.shareware.com; couldn't find it. =
Is
> it a shareware thing, commercial, etc.?  Ýi.e. Where could I find it =
now?¨.

Hmmm - I just found it on SUPER.  Try a search for "pilot", and you'll
get this and some other files.

HTH

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Hi John, hi Stefan,

> I have made the opposite experiences: Sometimes the LX doesn't shut off
> itself at all (although it's not busy and LXPRO sais "3 minutes".
> Don't know why.
>
> BTW a question: What are the conditions (normally) for the palmtop not
> shutting off at all? And is this always the case when also the on/off
> key doesn't work? Or are these independant from each other?
>
> ______________________reply seperator_____________________________
>
> The only time the lx should not shut off is when it is charging. It has to stay
> on then.

...and when it's running Windows 3.0. Therefor Stefan Peichl wrote the
sleepon-TSR.
But I think it's not only when running windows, but also when running
other software that keeps the processor very busy (or whatever the
reason is).

Stefan, do you know, what' the reason for the palmtop when it's not
going into sleep mode after 3 minutes?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:14:23 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:17:49 +0100, Martin Bergvill <martin@mobilpost.com> =
wrote:

> "Fatal error: Palmemfail Out of memory" Then Post/lx exits and I am
> back to sysmgr.
>

Please exuse me but I have written this email in many sessions as I
have experimented with Post/Lx..

I did as Andreas told me too do..I have cleaned up the post.cfg file.
Well I did more than that. I did a complete reinstall of the www/x =
package.

I have now all the newsgroups I want and no "Fatel error" when I am at
the end of a newsgroup where the orginal problem where.

But I get The " Fatal error" when I try to move messages from my inbox
to a "Read"folder. My Post.cfg is 8781..is that way to much?

I will try to delete one newsgroup to see if this error goes away..
..I had to delete two newsgroups to get it to work..

My post.cfg is now 8609 and all works good.. what can I do to "trim"
the .cfg file some more..

I have now stopped using my desktop pc for mail & news..feels good to
be able to read/reply to mail when I have some spare time off. Before
www/lx I sat infront of my pc for hours..not anymore..now I do the
replying when I have the time wherever I want..

Can not wait to get my hands on a Nokia 7110 & Andreas's new program for
sms..

Thanks all...this is a great place to get answers!
--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
Written on a Hp200Lx using WWW/LX+

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Subject:      Re: Any conversion for p.pilot .PDB?
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>

re:
>Hmmm - I just found it on SUPER.  Try a search for "pilot", and you'll
>get this and some other files.

Thanks!  I'd searched for it by filename and not gotten anywhere, poss. a
typo on my part, or a case-sensitivity thing....

I'll give it a whirl!

--tim

PS. <fluff> For Linux aficionados, there's a 3+MB file-set of pilot .pdbs
that're all supposed to be how-to docs for Linux.... Ýyou'll have to search
for "Linux" or linhto.zip at: http://www.zdnet.com/swlib/pilotsoftware/ to
get a link for the file¨.

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Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP help needed
Comments: To: rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thank you all for the advs.
It was actually because I type in the wrong phone number of my ISP. It is
working perfectly now, except I can't use the PCMCIA modem that I hv. It draws
too much current. First, I got a error msg while downloading, then I got "main
battery low". I'm using an external modem and it is perfect.
This is really a wonderful program, and the set up isn't really that difficult.
Thanks Brian.

------------------------------ Reply Separator -------------------------------

Hi Roger S.,

Glad to here you got connected. As far as the  modem goes get one of those
$12.00 Megahertz 1440 XJACK" Modem from:

Kent Byron "Kento"
http://home.eznet.net/~kento/mhzpcm.html




Regards,


Qman...
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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been thinking about going back to Agenda. I played with it before but
never got going with it due to its amazing power and steep learning
curve. I use Info Select right now for random information storage and
the built - in diary/to do function, (although I've customised the to do
layout to meet my needs with the incorporation of some macros).

It's clear from what I've read, particularly on Michael Stocker's
brilliant agenda site, that Agenda is an AMAZING power PIM, probably the
best that ever was (is).

But, here's what's holding me back and any of your thoughts would be
most appreciated:-

It's power and features seem to mean a steep learning curve.

If I recall, it runs quite slow on a standard LX. You need double
speed which I don't have at the moment.

Michael Stocker advises running it with MaxDos and EMS from SUPER. Now
don't snigger but although I've downloaded LOTS AND LOTS of programmes
and got them to run OK on the 200LX, as an avid user of the LX but not a
techie, I always seem to hit glitches getting stuff installed and
running (particularly with memory - related programmes) and I find that
it takes an age to iron out the snags with the result that, (1) several
days of normal life passes me by in a kind of haze and (2) my wife
invariably gives me grief for "having your head again in that computer
again". Does this syndrome ring any bells with anyone on the list?

If I had the following support which I'd probably consider stumping up
some British Pounds for, I'd go for Agenda as my sole PIM:-

First and foremost, a personal training session on an introduction to
Agenda followed up some months later with an advanced training session.
Or failing that, a really good book that teaches Agenda in a user-
friendly way. (Some of the books I borrowed from the library on Agenda
didn't do that for me).

Access to support when things go wrong with Agenda or I don't understand
something.

Help to install all the memory stuff like MaxDOS and EMS so that it runs
first time (again I hear the PC techies on the list snigger.....).

Finally, and very important, confidence that my growing Agenda file
won't get corrupted as I've read it's prone to do. I don't want to be
into running the agenda file check utility all the time.

Thanks for the air time.

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:42:56 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> What, you can use PCMCIA Type III hard drives with the HP LX?
> I understand the need for the type II to Type III adapter, but I would
> not have thought the DOS built-in would be able to handle the HD!
>
> Please confirm this for me...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com

Ken,

Accurite's DoubleSlot adapter does what you are looking for, it turns
the LX's single type II PCMCIA slot into two type II, or one type II &
one type III slot.  Some of the uses would be for modems, flash cards,
type III hard drives, and Accurite's Travel Floppy.  I use it, it works
O.K., but it has its limits.  Some 56K modems conflict somehow, and are
not recognized, therefore will not work.  Accurite's website:
www.accurite.com.  I own both the DoubleSlot & Travel Floppy.  As with
anything that is for mobile use, the devices are a bit pricey, but if
you want the toys, you pay the price.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:42:59 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: Forwarding newsmessages using Post/Lx..how?
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> When I read something interesting in a newsgroup I sometimes forward
> them too my brother.
>
> How can I do that with Post/Lx. When I push "Forward" I only get a
> "Newsgroup" header..I can add a "CC:" header, but their have to be
> another way of doing this that I am not aware of?
>
> Thanks i advance..
>
> --
>
> Mvh/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill

Hey I can finally answer a POST/LX question, rather than always asking
them :)  Press shift + forward to get additional forwarding choices.
This will allow forwarding to different mail boxes or newsgroups.  The
shift + also works with the reply & delete keys, giving additional
reply & delete options.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:15:19 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Unless I'm mistaken, DOS 5.0 can handle partitions up to around 520meg.

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Hansen Ýmailto:khansen@NJCC.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 6:03 PM
>
> What, you can use PCMCIA Type III hard drives with the HP LX?
> I understand the need for the type II to Type III adapter, but I would
> not have thought the DOS built-in would be able to handle the HD!
>
> Please confirm this for me...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:40:21 -0700
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Have any of you heard of the Japanese Ruputer Pro 4 watch from Seiko
Instruments Inc.?  It's about $350, has 4 MB flash drive, 128 main memory,
Infrared, Serial Connection, and runs a DOS-like operating system which can
be programmed in.  I've already collected over 80 applications and games
which have been made for this little wonder.

See more at:

http://ruputer.com/english
http://www.readysoft.es/home/coding/ruputer/index.html
http://janus.free.fr/ruputee.html
http://www.larah.demon.co.uk/pda_rup.htm
http://timexfun.webprovider.com/RuputerGroove.html

The screen is only B/W at 102x64 pixels (a far cry from the CGA 640x200).
It's not an HPLX, but it's one step closer to having an HP-LX on your wrist.
=)

It is currently only available in Japan, but 95% of the applications have
been translated to english (except for some system menu's in the internal
ROM, but those you can easily learn).  It can be bought in america from
either T-Zone in Japan, or a Japanese store called the "WatchShop".

Seiko has been beating around the bushes about whether or not there will be
an english version made, so don't hold your breath.

Tell me what you think. =)

        Tony Olsen
        Ferris@Myself.Com

There's a mailing list on the Ruputer at:
        Ruputer@Listbot.Com
        http://Listbot.Com

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From: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, May 29, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: Something interesting...


>I noticed an interesting picture of an HP200 look-alike at:
>http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/index.htm
>
>If you click on "Symbian" on the left of the page, it gives some
>additional info. One thing I noticed was that DOS is supported.
>
>Steve
>
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Hi all

If anyone has a Palmpilot they have tried and returned to LX and no longer
need I am interested in purchasing one for my wife.  She *thinks* she wants
a Palmpilot rather than an LX.  <s>  :))

Please email me offlist

TIA

Russell

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX

> Accurite's DoubleSlot adapter does what you are looking for, it turns
> the LX's single type II PCMCIA slot into two type II, or one type II &
> one type III slot.  Some of the uses would be for modems, flash cards,
> type III hard drives, and Accurite's Travel Floppy.  I use it, it works
> O.K., but it has its limits.  Some 56K modems conflict somehow, and are
> not recognized, therefore will not work.  Accurite's website:
> www.accurite.com.  I own both the DoubleSlot & Travel Floppy.  As with
> anything that is for mobile use, the devices are a bit pricey, but if
> you want the toys, you pay the price.
>
>
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking

Its not just 56k modems that clash, I tried several different 14.4
and 28.8 modems with combinations of flash and a type III hd and
never found a set that would work together. I even had accurite
replace the unit to make sure it wasn't a fault in it. It is a nice
unit and they are very helpful but the way it works has some
limitations so make sure it works with the combination YOU want to
use before you buy it, I ended up selling mine.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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My how heritical<g>.

_____________reply seperator________________

Hi all

If anyone has a Palmpilot they have tried and returned to LX and no longer
need I am interested in purchasing one for my wife.  She *thinks* she wants
a Palmpilot rather than an LX.  <s>  :))

Please email me offlist

TIA

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Don't think you're missing anything Philippe.

I wrote the same comments a few weeks ago.
Close the app =3D corruption.
Ctrl-Alt-Del  =3D no corruption.

I've also found that you can switch to other tasks and save
any changes that might need to be made before the boot.
Just don't save/close the app that reports "out of memory".

Chris R


> I've heard people talk about it with dread:
> opening a note field and getting an "out of
> memory" message, and the resulting corruption of
> their database. I've experienced it.
>
> I think I may have found a solution: When you get
> the error message, do a cold reboot. This way, the
> database app doesn't have a chance to save
> anything back to the disk and hopefully your
> database hasn't been corrupted yet.
>
> Seems to have worked for me.
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> Philippe
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No, but I did see an Atari Portfolio in Terminator 2.
Obviously a low budget film ;-)

David Sargeant wrote:

> I was just watching "The Real McCoy," with Kim Basinger and Val Kilmer,
> and as she's preparing to rob the bank, there's a flash of a bunch of
> numbers scrolling on the screen of a unit that's obviously a 200LX.
> Anybody else seen this?
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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:39:18 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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If you have sufficient time, you could order the items you want from
a low-cost internet site and have them shipped to the hotel you will
be staying at... This may be the easiest solution...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: David Bird <dbird@PHYSICS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
Subject: Off-Topic: Diamond Rio and HPLX


>Hi to you all.
>
>I am off to the U.S. in a couple of weeks for 6 days
>and am interested in picking up a Diamond Rio Special Edition
>MP3 Player and memory card. I will
>be in the Arlington area (Crystal City), just outside Washington DC.
>Any suggestions on where the best place to get one would be would be
>greatly appreciated.

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:51:23 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Is this the game that starts with
> 5S, 5C, 10H, KD, JH, 10C, 5H, KC
> across the top, and the AC played,
> or did I mis-input the game number (playing v 2.6)?

No, it starts with
AH 7S 2D 8S 7C ... and no Aces played.

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I thought the HD limitation was the PCMCIA socket current limit.
Since the 200LX can handle ATA flash cards I wouldn't think a HD
wold matter IF the current requirements were low enough.

Russ

> What, you can use PCMCIA Type III hard drives with the HP LX?
> I understand the need for the type II to Type III adapter, but I would
> not have thought the DOS built-in would be able to handle the HD!
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com

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Does anyone know if it will run on the 200LX. I've been using it on my desktop
and it works pretty nice although the view fax window seems to need a mouse to
work right.

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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hi Al!  I had this same problem.  I now run Post/LX and WWW/LX with
MaxDOS.  I have had no problems since.  Give it a try!

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com


At 10:16 PM 6/1/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Sorry...forgot to mention that what I was describing was the result of
>doing that.  When I pushed either key, I get a little dialog box which
>states: "Editing...Please press ENTER   OK".  Pressing ENTER puts me back
>to  the little "one line box" for text entry.
>
>I've been running Post/LX from the AppMgr, so I left the default editor as
>MEMO b800 c800 2166 0231.  I'm not sure what "b800 c800...etc". stands for,
>and the docs I've been able to find so far don't seem to explain this part.
> What do I need to change to get MEMO to come up when I go to "compose"?
>
>Post/LX seems to take a lot of memory; I tried editing Post/LX setup to
>minimize the amount of memory used, but it will not run with any
>designation less than the max memory available (no value included after the
>| symbol).  Do I need to be running from DOS instead?  I don't think
>anything else is running other than AppManager, WWW/LX and Post/LX.

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Get files from a 100LX
Comments: To: John Waller <Hp100Lx@JWALLER.DEMON.CO.UK>

John Waller writes:
> Can anybody tell me how to programmatically retrieve a file
> from an LX?

If the LX is connected to the network, you could run LXTELNET on the
palmtop, and the retrieve the file with FTP.

Otherwise, you can leave the palmtop in FILER connected with the serial
cable, and then use the code from the program on SUPER which allows you
to access the filer from Unix (the code is written in C, and is very
modular).

ÝI don't do Windows, so I can't help you with Visual Basic¨

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Off-Topic: Diamond Rio and HPLX

> If you have sufficient time, you could order the items you want from
> a low-cost internet site and have them shipped to the hotel you will
> be staying at... This may be the easiest solution...
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>

Actually that would probably be a great idea, especially if you
contac tthe hotel in advance and make sure they will accept the
package if it arrives before you. I would order enough before you
arrive to allow for normal delays.

I was in Crystal City a couple of years ago and there aren't many big
computer stores close by. There was an electronic boutique in the
underground mall but I don't know if they carry that. I haven't seen
any of the Rio's for sale in any local stores but I haven't looked
very hard since I bought one mail order.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:09:40 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Ed,

A few suggestions from my side:

1. The mapping of fields between the Palmtop and Outlook should be user
definable, and stored in a configuration table. This will be very useful
for those who have heavily modified their *.?db files.

2. Handling of conflicts could also be automated and stored as different
parameter options. For instance, one works on the Outlook data the whole day
and at the end of the day transfers the files to the Palmtop, over-riding
the Palmtop data. One may then work on this data at home and do the re-synch at
work the next day by over-riding the Outlook data. One may think of other
similar scenarios where such short-cuts using canned conflict resolution
methods will work.

3. How will deleted records be handled? They should not be re-instated under
the assumption that they belong to the No-conflict (New) category.

4. As I see it, there will be 3 sets of data files on the Windows PC:

1. OUTLOOK - files
2. PALMTOP-OLD - files created during the last synch operation
3. PALMTOP-NEW - files newly uploaded from the palmtop for
synchronisation.

PALMTOP-OLD should contain the date and time stamp of when the re-synch was
last performed. Comparison between PALMTOP-OLD and PALMTOP-NEW will reveal
deleted records, at least those deleted on the palmtop side. If a similar
snapshot is kept of the outlook files at the time of synchronisation,
records deleted in outlook can also be identified.

5. The date and time stamp can be used to re-construct the files in case of
data consumption.

I hope this scheme is not too roundabout, just to detect deleted records, and
to
maintain a time stamp.

Anand


At 08:49 AM 30-05-1999 Sunday -0400, Ed Keefe wrote:
>I've been looking at the new solutions to the problem of synchronizing the
>Palmtop's PIMS with MS Outlook. I decided to put on my old "programmer
>analyst's cap" and write the specifications for the complete solution. I'd
>be grateful if the programmers would take a look at my first draft and see
>if I've covered all the bases.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 01:51:01 +0000
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David,

First try calling the CompUSA in Alexandria, Va.  It's about 5 miles from =
Crystal City.  There is a different store in Fairfax, Va (forget the =
name), check the Yellow pages directory.  It is about 10 miles west of =
Crystal City.  Hope this helps.   =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:01:57 -0700
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Subject:      Re: palmtoppaper.com?
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On 02-Jun-99, Ed Keefe wrote:
> What am I doing wrong?<<
>
> Nothing wrong. You just skipped the final step: type a keyword in the
> search field and click Fetch! Sometimes, the filename given in the Paper
> and the filename on the Super site are slightly different. Keyword
> searches resolve that problem.

Still not working for me.

When I enter something in the textentry field for "SUPER Site Quick Search"
and hit Fetch! it only searches on SUPER.  For example, I entered
"noprsc.com", looking for the 8-byte file mentioned in "Quick Tips", but
the Fetch button only seems to look in SUPER.

Am I still missing the point?

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:09:03 -0400
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Hi, Peter Maddern

I agree: Agenda is slow on a stock LX. On a double speed it is passable a=
nd
there are several things you can do to speed it up a little bit more. =


We had a very good intro to Agenda in the Jan/Feb 1999 issue of PTP by
Ralph Alvy, a long time user of Agenda. There is also a preinstalled
version of Agenda on SUPER if you don't already have the software. Ralph
also included a list of books that he recommended for folks who wanted to=

go beyond the basics with Agenda.  I believe there is also an Agenda
resource on the InterNet but I haven't looked for it for several months.

I played with Agenda to see if it would make a good project managment too=
l
but decided that, unless I used it on a daily basis, it was too easy to
forget the commands and spend most of my time learning and relearning
Agenda and not working on the projects. =


.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:02:35 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<When I enter something in the textentry field for "SUPER Site Quick
Search"
and hit Fetch! it only searches on SUPER.  For example, I entered
"noprsc.com", looking for the 8-byte file mentioned in "Quick Tips", but
the Fetch button only seems to look in SUPER.>>

Ed will have to answer about the specific file. However, you are
correct, that palmtoppaper.com works tightly with SUPER.  There was no
point in duplicating the great work done by SUPER. Some of SUPER's files
resides on our FTP site as Mitch ran out of room.

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Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> Does this mean that eventually a CF will go 'flat'? If so, what do you do
> then?

No, flash memory is non-volatile.  That means that is does not
require any electricity to maintain the memory.  That data
will stay in the flash card, virtually forever.  There is
nothing to worry about.

SRAM cards, however, need constant power to hold the data in
memory and when the power stops (the button battery dies) the
memory forgets.


Stan

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Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> How does this routine operate?
> It's a TSR yet not a sys, com, or exe file.
> Does it get run each time sysmgr is invoked
> of just once to initiate?

I don't know the intricate details, but FASTDB.TSR is not a
TSR in the sense that we understand DOS TSR's.  This is a
special feature of System Manager to load these *.TSR routines
on an as-needed basis depending on the application that is
running and what it is doing.

Supposedly, these little utilities can be set up to connect
into lots of SysMgr functions to modify or enhance how they
work.  SysMgr will load and execute these *.TSR programs at
the appropriate time depending on when they are needed.

For example, I have been told that many of the functions that
Buddy performs on the 100/200LX could have been done through
this SysMgr *.TSR functionality.  The problem with doing it
that way is that it is very complicated, not well documented,
and for the most part untested.


Stan

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:24:38 +0800
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Stan, where can one get more information about is this *.TSR functionality
of SysMgr?

Anand.

At 11:00 PM 02-06-1999 Wednesday -0400, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

>I don't know the intricate details, but FASTDB.TSR is not a
>TSR in the sense that we understand DOS TSR's.  This is a
>special feature of System Manager to load these *.TSR routines
>on an as-needed basis depending on the application that is
>running and what it is doing.
>
>Supposedly, these little utilities can be set up to connect
>into lots of SysMgr functions to modify or enhance how they
>work.  SysMgr will load and execute these *.TSR programs at
>the appropriate time depending on when they are needed.
>
>For example, I have been told that many of the functions that
>Buddy performs on the 100/200LX could have been done through
>this SysMgr *.TSR functionality.  The problem with doing it
>that way is that it is very complicated, not well documented,
>and for the most part untested.
>
>
>Stan
>

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:36:25 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Mitch,

> I did some investigation into these Otterboxes that were mentioned on

I now have all four boxes (2000, 2500, 3000, and 3500) in my possession. as you said
the 2xxx sseries is just not deep enough for the palmtop. Deep I mean front to
back. But they are terrific boxes for equipment: Cables, chargers, adapters,
modem and storage cards, etc.

The 3000 and 3500 are right for the palmtops. The 3500 is a tall box, I can
fit three palmtops in there with more room for stuff.

These boxes are built very well. They are waterproof. The lid has a rim that
protrudes and inserts into a channel on the top rim of the bottom part. In
that channel, they put a rubberized insert which then seals the contact beteen
top and bottom against wanter. I put one of the boxes into water with some
material that changes color when water hits it. It was there a week, no
discoloration.

The colors are many, but I agree with you that the best color is transparent -
you can see exactly what's inside.

It seems ideal for travellers who take various equipment with them.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:36:20 -0700
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> But I get The " Fatal error" when I try to move messages from my inbox
> to a "Read"folder. My Post.cfg is 8781..is that way to much?

I bet I use more of Post/LX than you do and mine is 6248. I took out all the
comments. I removed several email boxes, and simply forward email from them to
other email boxes. I reduced the number of newsgroups I read to a minimum -
seemed to help in removing some junk from my life, too! :¨...). I cleaned my
WWW.CFG a lot too. Some things are nice to try, but I could not see why I
should be able to swap 7 fonts in my Post/LX - so I reduced the list to 2 plus
built-in. I even cancelled one of my email addresses, and will cancel another
one soon. A third one will probably go away at the end of June.

All these steps make the config files smaller.

But also understand that other factors apply: How large are your message
files? The inddices take memory! How many files do you have open? How big is
your FILES= parameter? Buffers= parameter?

i also trimmed the number of TSR way back to make more room.

I use Sofware Carousel and dedicate on Workarea to Post/LX. Still, when some
of my message files get huge (over 10MB!!!!) I get Palmemfailure. So I clean
up more messages and get rid of stuff I really cannot imagine I would ever
need again. Even if I imagine I'll need again, I move the info from a message
to a notebook, and get rid of everything except the words that are important.
Example: I keep the name, email, date (but not time), and just the URL of
messages that give interesting URLs to review. If they mention programs, I
just keep the names, and maybe a word or two about what the program does, but
not entire sentences.

Sure all these thngs take a bit of time, and that is my criterion: If the time
to trim a message seems too long, delete the message!

I used to get PalMemFail when I tried to reply to a message from a folder with
3500 messages. Now I trimmed the messages to less than 2900, and no
PalMemFails...

About two-three months ago I counted that all my folders in Post/LX contain
something over 16,000 messages. About a week ago I counted and it came to
28,000! Since then I have deleted over 8,000 message, and gained 15MEGA Bytes
on disk!

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:02:54 GMT
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Hi friends,

I'd like to sell an ATA Flash card (PCMCIA Type 2) 10 MB
made by Panasonic.

It works without problems in the HP 200 LX.

You can buy it for 50 US$ or 50 Euro + shipping.

please email off list when interested

GTX
daniel


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Peter,

> It's power and features seem to mean a steep learning curve.

It depends, in any case it is manageable.

> If I recall, it runs quite slow on a standard LX. You need double
> speed which I don't have at the moment.

It is slow, especially when you have assignment actions. I used
my Pentium to run the assignments actions and then transferred
my 100kB agenda file to palmi. Today I do not have any of these
any more.

> (2) my wife
> invariably gives me grief for "having your head again in that computer
> again". Does this syndrome ring any bells with anyone on the list?

A battaillon of sirenes and bells and whistles and ...

> If I had the following support which I'd probably consider stumping up
> some British Pounds for, I'd go for Agenda as my sole PIM:-

There is a (not so lively) forum at Compuserve covering Agenda
issues - I think it is LOTUSB. Then there is the below
mentioned e-mail listservice on agenda questions - some of us
hang out there as well :

<<From: "Gary R Oliver" <gary.oliver@ooo.com.au>
To: <pimlist@onelist.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:13:07 +1000
Subject: Re: Ýpimlist¨ Item2CSV

Have you entered ONElist's "Grow to Give" program? http://www.onelist.com =
Deadline
is June 19.  Join now to win $5000 for your charity of choice.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ =
You
can put e-mail messages from this list on hold while you are out of town =
by
going to the ONElist's User Center.  Feel free to e-mail the moderator at
mstocker@neo.rr.com if you can any comments or questions.>>

I don't recall the signup procedure - try browsing to
onelist.com.

Then you might e-mail Gary Oliver and ask him to mail you his
FAQ file on Agenda subjects.

Any books are sold out. Best bet is to try an auction of old
software incl. official docs.

> Finally, and very important, confidence that my growing Agenda file
> won't get corrupted as I've read it's prone to do. I don't want to be
> into running the agenda file check utility all the time.

Never done it and never had any problems so far.

But Peter, what about the following: continue to use the
AppMgr and start using PalmEdit from Andreas to do database
management/searching and organisation. Read the help file and
the docs that com with PE twice or three times. It is good
literature of a knowledgable guy (g). There are also ways to do
item searches via macros and hot keys without the necessity to
have them assigned to different categories. This allows
for some good data management. And AppMgr has better visualisation than
Agenda - I continue to do my appointments and daily todo's
there and use agenda/PE for data and project organisation.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:50:46 +0100
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Hans

Many thanks for your detailed answer with the advice on using Agenda.
You mention below PalmEdit from Andreas. But do you mean PalEdit on
SUPER? From your description, it sounds a bit like Info Select in what
it does?

Thanks again

In message <199906030636.CAA08629@hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com>, Hans
Peter Staber <hpstaber@csi.com> writes

>But Peter, what about the following: continue to use the
>AppMgr and start using PalmEdit from Andreas to do database
>management/searching and organisation. Read the help file and
>the docs that com with PE twice or three times. It is good
>literature of a knowledgable guy (g). There are also ways to do
>item searches via macros and hot keys without the necessity to
>have them assigned to different categories. This allows
>for some good data management. And AppMgr has better visualisation than
>Agenda - I continue to do my appointments and daily todo's
>there and use agenda/PE for data and project organisation.
>
>HP Staber/Salzburg

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:40:21 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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>
> I agree: Agenda is slow on a stock LX. On a double speed it is passable a
> nd
> there are several things you can do to speed it up a little bit more.

Hi Ed,

I disagree. I run it on a 1MB single speed machine. The only
task which takes some time are executing all action/conditions
for all items (alt-x), but you need to do this rarely. But
actions/conditions applied after entering an item are no problem
a it runs in the background (WRKNG- Indicator). My file is
slowly growing towards 100k and the WRKNG-Indicator disappears
after about 3 seconds. I have all features (text
matching/actions/conditions/filters) activated and my category
hierarchy is pretty large and complex. It is not slow, what am I
doing wrong <g>?

Just make sure not to install it on a compressed flashdisk. It
will slow down to a crawl then.


Regards,
Reinhard


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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:24:55 +0100
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Hi Peter,

> It's clear from what I've read, particularly on Michael Stocker's
> brilliant agenda site, that Agenda is an AMAZING power PIM, probably the
> best that ever was (is).

I have used a lot of PIMs before Agenda (askSam, Above&Beyond,
HP200-built-in, Zoot...). After I discovered Agenda I knew at
once that this is what I have always been looking for. This is
the most cleverly written application I have ever used.

>
> But, here's what's holding me back and any of your thoughts would be
> most appreciated:-
>
> It's power and features seem to mean a steep learning curve.

I think after you understood the basics (there is an article
available from the developers which helps a lot - can be found
on Michael Stocker's Site), you can right start without
bothering about the "power" features. The rest is learning by
doing. I have been learning a lot just by experiments.

There is online help, the keyboard-shortcuts are not to hard to
remember (not as hard as say Wordstar-commands), the function
keys have their fixed functions throughout the program, and they
are shown at the bottom. The developers spent a lot of effort on
ergonomy. What might be hard to learn is the philosophy of the
program (but I even doubt this), but thats just because it is so
unique, not really because it is too complex. Learning a
wordprocessor, a database application, a spreadsheet
application, if you did never use these types of applications
before, has a "steep learning curve" too. And I don't think that
Agendas is really steeper.

>
> If I recall, it runs quite slow on a standard LX. You need double
> speed which I don't have at the moment.

I don't have double speed either. Make sure to not install it on
a compressed flashdisk. I think that a "standard" PC in 1989
when Agenda was released was not faster either.


> Access to support when things go wrong with Agenda or I don't
understand
> something.

There is the Agenda-Mailing list (pimlist@onelist.com).

> > Help to install all the memory stuff like MaxDOS and EMS so
that it runs
> first time (again I hear the PC techies on the list snigger.....).

It's really not difficult to install ems and maxdos, you will
get help from the Agenda-List or HPLX-L, too.

> > Finally, and very important, confidence that my growing
Agenda file
> won't get corrupted as I've read it's prone to do. I don't want to be
> into running the agenda file check utility all the time.

I did not have any corrupted data on the Hp200lx after using
agenda for several months intensly.

regards,
Reinhard


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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:03:43 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> I thought the HD limitation was the PCMCIA socket current limit.
> Since the 200LX can handle ATA flash cards I wouldn't think a HD
> wold matter IF the current requirements were low enough.
>
> Russ

The PCMCIA hard drives are type III.  Won't physically fit into a type
II slot, they are too thick.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:48:53 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> My post.cfg is now 8609 and all works good.. what can I do to "trim"
> the .cfg file some more..

Does not sound large.

Do you use HFN fonts with POST/LX? They also need quite a bit of
memory.

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:11:14 +1000
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From:         Leon Phillips <LnC.Phillips@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject:      ToDo.EXM and Exkey clash

Following on from Rod Whitby's comment that some of the ToDo.EXM
functionality wasn't working, I noticed that the <shift+arrow> and
<ctrl+arrow> keys wouldn't work for me.   I narrowed it down to a problem
with EXKEY.   I am only using EXKEY to swap the <More> and <Alt More> keys
for SmmLx so I have now deactivated EXKEY.   I may have to use the ROM
based programme that swap keys (I can't remember it but I know it's in the
manual somewhere).   Has anyone else had this problem?

Regards,

Leon

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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This may be a stupid question, so please don't laugh at me <g>. If I use
MaxDOS to create a session with a lot of memory, then load something that
takes most of the memory that was freed, can I use MaxDOS to create more
free memory again, even though I have already used it once?


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:06:27 +1000
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From:         Leon Phillips <LnC.Phillips@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject:      Kento's A+ Service

Adding to Qman's recommendation, I bought a 1440 XJACK Modem from Kento
last week.   He answered all my email enquiries and processed my order
quickly.   I expected the modem to be second hand at that price but it
looks like it has never been used!   I highly recommend his service.   I
paid about one quarter of what I would have paid if I had bought that modem
in Australia (if I could find it).

Regards,

Leon Phillips
40 Brudenell Drv
JERRABOMBERRA  NSW 2619
AUSTRALIA


Date:    Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:12:05 -0800
From:    "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: ccLXPOP help needed

Thank you all for the advs.
It was actually because I type in the wrong phone number of my ISP. It is
working perfectly now, except I can't use the PCMCIA modem that I hv. It
draws
too much current. First, I got a error msg while downloading, then I got
"main
battery low". I'm using an external modem and it is perfect.
This is really a wonderful program, and the set up isn't really that
difficult.
Thanks Brian.

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Hi Roger S.,

Glad to here you got connected. As far as the  modem goes get one of those
$12.00 Megahertz 1440 XJACK" Modem from:

Kent Byron "Kento"
http://home.eznet.net/~kento/mhzpcm.html




Regards,


Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net


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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:07:06 -0700
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I think you can nest MaxDOS sessions, tho I'd hardly recommend it.  You won't be
able to swap between them and I don't know what happens to the nested sessions
when the last one in the chain runs out of memory.

But I have tried starting a MaxDOS session, then running HDM and picking an icon
that ran yet another app under MaxDOS, and all seemed to run OK.  But I'll
emphasize that I don't do this on a regular basis.  I don't recall reading
anything in the MaxDOS docs that would imply it supported multiple sessions, and
it's always possible something will overlay/overwrite something else in the
processing of spawning or closing added sessions.

- Longden





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This may be a stupid question, so please don't laugh at me <g>. If I use
MaxDOS to create a session with a lot of memory, then load something that
takes most of the memory that was freed, can I use MaxDOS to create more
free memory again, even though I have already used it once?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:32:45 -0700
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I'd like to announce the release of Goin' Postal version 3.  This new
version has too many new features to list here, yet resides in 135k
of your ramdisk.  Full details on it's webpage:  http://gp.hplx.net/

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:07:06 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

> I think you can nest MaxDOS sessions, tho I'd hardly recommend it.  You =
won't be
> able to swap between them and I don't know what happens to the nested =
sessions
> when the last one in the chain runs out of memory.

Here's the reason I have asked the question. I have PGP setup for use =
with
Goin' Postal. It's actually quite easy to do with GP as there is a =
built-in
'hook' for PGP. Well I was messing around on the internet last looking at
D&A's web page and read what Andreas has written about setting up PGP for =
use
with POST/LX, so I figured I would give it a try because I also have =
WWW/LX
on my LX. Well... I can't get it to work :( and it's turned into an
obsession to get it to work. I created the four required batch files, two =
of
which call for MaxDOS. Since I was already in a MaxDOS session with =
POST/LX,
I thought that might be the problem. The exact problem is when I go to
encode a message, I get an error message that says "Could Not Create File
SCRATCH". I figured that it might have something to do with not having
enough memory(?)

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:28:01 -0700
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I use Post/LX's shift F5 to select certain dialups.  I'm going to be
traveling in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if there was an
option to setup a choice in the shift F5 selection to keep the same
DNS parameters and all, but prompt for a telephone number.

Thanks

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
time.phone@bigfoot.com
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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:31:08 +0200
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
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Jeff,

> This may be a stupid question, so please don't laugh at me <g>. If I =
use
> MaxDOS to create a session with a lot of memory, then load something =
that
> takes most of the memory that was freed, can I use MaxDOS to create =
more
> free memory again, even though I have already used it once?

Yes, you can. I use it along e.g. with post/lx > pe > pick. Works each
time.

I use it a lot this way and didn't suffer from any problem. MAXDOS is
configure to use EMS. I have setup 6 MB of EMS and run 9 SC sessions
and lots of maxdos swaps.

It is one of the briliant pieces oft software.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:46:27 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:31:08 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI=
.COM> wrote:

> Yes, you can. I use it along e.g. with post/lx > pe > pick. Works each
> time.

Okay.... but what if you don't have or run SC :( ? To use PGP with =
POST/LX
is it only an option if you have Software Carousel?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Great little software! I'm just starting to use
it, and ran into a small snag. Looks like the
field mapping between PDB and Outlook is done
regardless of what's in the PDB. For instance, I
have a modified PDB (with e-mail and pager fields)
and it doesn't seem like the software even
noticed: it simply mapped fields in the same
order, causing the mapping to be off for all
fields. Strange...

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OK, now I'm really stepping out of my league since I don't use SC, PGP nor
POST/LX (yet).

But from what Helmuth said, it sounds like if you're able to run a DOS program
from out of POST/LX, then you'd be able to spawn a MaxDOS session running PGP,
and on exiting PGP, you'd be back in POST/LX.  I think he threw in the SC only
to emphasize the stability of the MaxDOS program under duress <g>.

I checked the MaxDOS doc again and still see no mention of multiple sessions,
but as Helmuth demonstrates, this doesn't mean it can't be done.

Heck Jeff, if you wanted to play it safe you wouldn't be in law enforcement <g>.

- Longden





Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> on 06/03/99 08:46:27 AM

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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:31:08 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
wrote:

> Yes, you can. I use it along e.g. with post/lx > pe > pick. Works each
> time.

Okay.... but what if you don't have or run SC :( ? To use PGP with POST/LX
is it only an option if you have Software Carousel?

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Hi There,

On SUPER we have a program for the 95LX called Notepad. In the text,
there are 2 e-mail addresses to Charles Hayden, but seams to be old now.
So I would like to check if anyone have been able to contact Charles?

Thanks,

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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:58:04 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

> OK, now I'm really stepping out of my league since I don't use SC, PGP =
nor
> POST/LX (yet).

I can't speak about SC, but the others are great. Each has it's own good
points and bad point (IMO).

> But from what Helmuth said, it sounds like if you're able to run a DOS =
program
> from out of POST/LX, then you'd be able to spawn a MaxDOS session =
running PGP,
> and on exiting PGP, you'd be back in POST/LX.  I think he threw in the =
SC only
> to emphasize the stability of the MaxDOS program under duress <g>.

To start POST/LX from AppManager, I have to call MaxDOS and then from =
what
Andreas has written and is on the D&A web site you have to call MaxDOS =
again
to do the encoding. I have followed the instructions explicity, but still
get an error that says, "Error Can Not Create File SCRATCH" :(

> I checked the MaxDOS doc again and still see no mention of multiple =
sessions,
> but as Helmuth demonstrates, this doesn't mean it can't be done.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong..... I'll fiddle around with it =
some
more as things like this bug me until I figure them out <g>. Sometimes I
tend to obsess over things like this and will lie in bed at night and =
dream
about them.....

> Heck Jeff, if you wanted to play it safe you wouldn't be in law enforcem=
ent <g>.

Well... I do *try* to make frequent backups, so I don't mind playing =
around
with it. The worst that could happen is that I could loose one or two =
days
worth of 'stuff'. As far as the law enforcement profession/trade, if you
were to look at a list of the most dangerous jobs to have you would =
probably
be surprised to find, that's it's not nearly as dangerous as some. The =
last
time I saw a list, the most dangerous/deadly job was that of a night-shift
hotel clerk. Interesting, huh <g>?


73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=3DPortable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     =
|
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Thu,  3 Jun 1999 12:18:05 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
"tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

TIA & Cheers,


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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> To start POST/LX from AppManager, I have to call MaxDOS and then from =
> what
> Andreas has written and is on the D&A web site you have to call MaxDOS =
> again
> to do the encoding. I have followed the instructions explicity, but still
> get an error that says, "Error Can Not Create File SCRATCH" :(

Jeff -
Are you selecting the entirety of the text you want to encode by using
Shift-Cursor keys?  PE/Post/LX requires you to actually select the text,
then run the PGP filter... otherwise it doesn't work.

Bill


Bill Childers
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:11:14 +1000, Leon Phillips wrote:

>Following on from Rod Whitby's comment that some of the ToDo.EXM
>functionality wasn't working, I noticed that the <shift+arrow> and
><ctrl+arrow> keys wouldn't work for me.   I narrowed it down to a problem
>with EXKEY.   I am only using EXKEY to swap the <More> and <Alt More> keys
>for SmmLx so I have now deactivated EXKEY.   I may have to use the ROM
>based programme that swap keys (I can't remember it but I know it's in the
>manual somewhere).   Has anyone else had this problem?

I ran a simple test:  with my key-mapping TSRs REMarked out (eg, MoreExm,
Buddy, ...) and ExKey024 REMarked out:

Ctrl-Up in Appt application, Daily Appt view, will move to the prior appointment,
    per documentation in HP200 manual, p3-10.

When I put ExKey (only) back in:

Ctrl-Up only moves up one hour, not to prior appointment.

I'm not doing any remapping of Ctrl-Up in EXKEY.INI, so I'm puzzled.


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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:25:07 -0700, Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> =
wrote:

> Are you selecting the entirety of the text you want to encode by using
> Shift-Cursor keys?  PE/Post/LX requires you to actually select the =
text,
> then run the PGP filter... otherwise it doesn't work.

Yup :) It's all highlight then I press <ctrl><x><r> and it appears to =
start,
then gives me the error 'Error Can Not Create File SCRATCH'. PGP uses a
scratch file and I also noticed in the PE.CFG file there is a line that =
has
something to do with GREP that says SCRATCH in it.... I wonder which =
SCRATCH
file it's complaining about? I also figured that it was running out of
memory.....


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Here's a question for all of you electronics eggheads:

Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and solar
power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?

Philippe

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      File icons

Hi all,
Most of us know that if you have a DB file like
med.ndb and you append an icon file med.icn
you will get an icon when you look at your med
database.   My question is: How to put an icon
into a class of DBs, as all .NDBs.

It would be silly to append an icon for each DB
file as I have over 100 DBs, but I only have five
classes and would like to have an icon for each
class.

TIA
yor pal al..............................

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Now, to add a HP flavour, a while back someone mentioned the
> possibility of using the HP200LX to download files to the Rio
> (the specs for doing this have been posted somewhere). Has anyone
> developed this at all ?

That was probably me. Check out:

http://www.world.co.uk/sba/rio.htm

It has applications to upload/download files to/from Diamond Rio, list Rio
contents, delete files from Rio and initialise Rio. I can't comment on how well
the stuff works, as I don't own a Rio myself. The following are listed available
for download:

(v1.06) Rio Software (Source only, .tar)
(v1.06) Rio Software (Source only, .tgz)
(v1.06) Rio Software (Source only, .zip)
(v1.06) Rio Software for BeOS(Source only, .tgz)
(v1.06) .EXE for DOS          <-- (I guess this is the best bet for 200LX use)
(v1.06) .EXE for W95/98
(v1.06) .EXE for NT (inc. driver)
Patch for V1.06 for Rio SE (64Mb) courtesy Martin Sjoelin(plain text)

If you try it out, let us know how well it works. Good luck!

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Hi,
do you run OL98, if so you need to have the mapping program from MS.
Good Luck,
Michael

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Yep, OL98. But after I remapped all the fields, it worked perfectly!

Thanks,

Philippe

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> Hi,
> do you run OL98, if so you need to have the mapping program from MS.
> Good Luck,
> Michael

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:31:26 -0600
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I've seen information on how to get the LX on a windows network
(http://www.hplx.net/articles.accton.html), but this described it
using an ethernet card. I was curious to know if anyone has been able
to connect using Windows Direct Cable Connection. I would like to try
to use that to map DOS drives on my LX.

Many thanks in advance for everyone's time.

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Ed Keefe wrote:
>How do you get the View option to show ANSI text rather than a hex dump?
>I've deactivated the ASCII check box.

Does not work for me either, looks like a bug. Even if you de-select the
ASCII check box, it is reselected next time you View a file. Had a look in
the Transfile INI file and there is no entry for the ASCII flag so I guess
the programmers just forgot it.

Until you mentioned it, I did not know the facility was there so I won't
miss it.

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>I am sorry, what is Buddy?
Buddy is one of the more useful applications around to enhance the operation
of a 200LX palmtop. It provides too many features to list but can be
considered to be a "must have" utility. I expect you will find it on SUPER
at www.palmtop.net

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:46:48 -0500
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Not too long ago someone mentioned a site where you could store files
online. I thought it was called mydocsonline or something like that.

Anyone remember what that was?

Thanks,
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Hey Avi,

> About two-three months ago I counted that all my folders in Post/LX =
contain
> something over 16,000 messages. About a week ago I counted and it came =
to
> 28,000! Since then I have deleted over 8,000 message, and gained 15MEGA =
Bytes
> on disk!

are you from the Worldwar II generation who keep everything
they get their hands on (VBG).

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Hi Al

>
>      I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
> allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
> "tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
> the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
> application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

It is far from being a "simple" Project Manager, but I ran CA's
Superproject 1.10 sucessfully on the Hp200. It will probably be
very hard to get nowadays. It is a full-scale project management
software with probably a lot more features than you need. Just
wanted to mention it.

Reinhard

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Following on from Rod Whitby's comment that some of the ToDo.EXM
functionality wasn't working, I noticed that the <shift+arrow> and
<ctrl+arrow> keys wouldn't work for me.   I narrowed it down to a problem
with EXKEY.   I am only using EXKEY to swap the <More> and <Alt More> keys
for SmmLx so I have now deactivated EXKEY.   I may have to use the ROM
based programme that swap keys (I can't remember it but I know it's in the
manual somewhere).   Has anyone else had this problem?

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Hi Leon,


I have EXKEY installed on my palmtop and both <shift+arrow> and
<ctrl+arrow> are working properly in ToDo.exm.



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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:51:31 +0200
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Jeff,

> Okay.... but what if you don't have or run SC :( ? To use PGP with
> POST/LX
> is it only an option if you have Software Carousel?

Completely different thing. Maxdos allows you to start another program
with full memeory available from PE or POST/LX or another dos program.
SC offers adifferent session.

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:03:44 -0400
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>      I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
> allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
> "tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
> the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
> application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

Al,

You might want to try and find an old DOS version of
MS-Project. It runs well in mode=3Dmono.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Why not use Timetracker/LX? It works very well as a project manager.

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Hi Al

>
>      I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
> allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
> "tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
> the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
> application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

It is far from being a "simple" Project Manager, but I ran CA's
Superproject 1.10 sucessfully on the Hp200. It will probably be
very hard to get nowadays. It is a full-scale project management
software with probably a lot more features than you need. Just
wanted to mention it.

Reinhard

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On 06-03 06:46pm, you wrote

> Not too long ago someone mentioned a site where you could store files
> online. I thought it was called mydocsonline or something like that.

Yes, it was www.mydocsonline.com

Reinhard


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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:17:50 +0200
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Al, Andreas, Avi,
thank you all for your advice.

I asked:
 > Why does lxcic "get lost" when changing between SC work areas ?

and tried Al's advice first as it seemed the simplest:
>      Try loading LXCIC with resident (lxcic.com l)

instead of using just lxcic.com as I was doing.

IT WORKS ! With the l-switch, there is no more "loss of
contact" to the modem card.

To economize on brain power, I have not tried the other
search paths and solutions put forward. (The truth is, as I am
perfectly happy now, indolence prevailed.)

Thanks again and best regards
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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:21:41 -0400
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qman, is this for real?  It seems fake to me.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: zot2u <zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX


> Hi qman,
>
> zot2u@earthlink.net has temporarily stopped business for awhile due an
> injury.  However we still carry many of the rare and unique accessories
> for the HP200LX.
>
> I do have one backlight kit left and it is for sale with the following
> conditions:
>
> 1. Last one brand new anywhere HP200LX backlight kit = $150.
> 2. Sales is in person only in Southern California
> 3. Have a brave soul bc if u have never done this is before u will
> destroy about 5 screens before successfully get one screen put back
> correctly.
>
> zot2u@earthlink.net also have the type 3 hd's for the HP200LX with a
> type 2 pcmcia card addaptor.
>
> Hope u are in So. California.
>
>
>
>
>
> qman@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > As of Mon, 1 Feb 1999 you had:
> > Backlight kit $100                      quan. 10.
> >
> > I was wonder if you still had any left? If so I'd like to get one.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Qman...
> >
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> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 9:35 PM
Subject: cc:LXPOP

> the biggest issue seems to be getting the packet driver to work, but if
you can
> work that through, everyone else seems to be having good fortune with the
> program itself. I would like in  particular to thank Qman for his
relentless

Can anyone elaborate on the different things which can be tried to get the
packet driver to work?  I am trying to get it to work with my desktop modem
(lxpop worked just fine with my pcmcia modem on the palmtop).  This is
coming from someone who has followed instructions and got lxpop/pnr to work
fine as above.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, May 29, 1999 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: printing methods / one cable for printing and serial
connections


> I for one need to print things from the 200LX on the road.
> I never have problems printing form DOS with Greenwich.

Could you tell me what printers did you try with the Greenwich?  Did you use
the battery operated one or the port operated one?  The first worked for me
sometimes, the latter never did.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:01:35 -0400
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I haven't seen much talk of InfoSelect in the last year or so, so I figure
I'll share some of my favorite InfoSelect tips (they are not necesarily
mine):

1-If you want to zoom the display on InfoSelect, you need to turn off cursor
tracking.  This is done by typing the following command before IS:
"dispctl -c"

You'll also want to resize all your windows and your default opening window
to the size where the zooming works for you (in medium zoom, the window
number should be under the t for 'Adjust'; in maximum zoom, the window
number should be under the m for 'Form'.   (and of course you already know
about changing colors with setup.exe)

2-To use InfoSelect with Dosshell, you need to fiddle with the window
settings.  (Adjust, Room: Dataspace (I use 85, use the size of your largest
stack) and Window buffer (I use 7000, use the size of your largest window).
But what if that's not enough?  Then in Dosshell, go to
File-Properties-Advanced-Video Mode, and choose text, then press OK.  This
trick allowed me to fit InfoSelect with another program in a single window.
If all else fails, consider unloading your favorite tsr (this is why I don't
use buddy, but instead I use Lxshift and Numlock.  Similar functionality
with much lower overhead).

3-For cutting and pasting between Sysmgr  and InfoSelect, I use Dosclip from
SUPER (not the same as the one from Simtel).  I use it a lot by jotting down
any quick note on Memo (the quickest to open application on Sysmgr.), then
when I have a minute, I cut and paste from Memo into InfoSelect.  This works
well for me (I wish there was more than just coping a whole screen from
InfoSelect into Sysmgr, though).

Now for the question:  one of the neatest ways to add structure on
InfoSelect is with the Hypertext command.  But for some reason, one
Hypertext stack which works on my desktop will not work on the palmtop.  Has
anyone gotten the Hypertext command to work on the palmtop?

Tom Hoover once talked to me about an InfoSelect mailing list.  Is he still
on this list?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:09:36 -0400
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Hi Peter.  Just curious:  what are you looking for in Agenda that InfoSelect
doesn't do for you?  I know that its approach to structuring information is
primitive, but I have tried Agenda, and I find it one of the slowest, most
difficult to learn programs.  By contrast, I find InfoSelect one of the
fastest(even on my compressed flash card), easiest programs to use.  Its
main problem for most people is that is not free. 8=)
For more structure, I am currently looking into Dataperfect.  It is
difficult, but it seems faster than Agenda (though I don't know much yet
about either one).  I did like the pre-made forms that Dataperfect comes
with.  The main problem is disk space.

Just a possibility.

Domingo


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From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:22 PM
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> been thinking about going back to Agenda. I played with it before but
> never got going with it due to its amazing power and steep learning
> curve. I use Info Select right now for random information storage and
> the built - in diary/to do function, (although I've customised the to do
> layout to meet my needs with the incorporation of some macros).

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Thanks for your reply.  The style of your answer suggest to me that perhaps
you were disturbed by my post.  If so, my apologies.  I was simply wasting
bandwith by over-explaining myself in the face of what I felt was an unfair
post .

Domingo

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To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
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Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: New HP gadget


> It is my *opinion* that the goal of the CapScan is to save images from
printed
> material, not as a way to get text into a computer (via OCR)... It is my
*under-
>
> standing* that you wave this thing over a page (at any angle) a few times
(to
> get the complete image, you might want to overlap your swipes) and the
CapScan
> will merge/combine the swipes into a complete image (line them up) so you
can
> view the graphic, text, etc. as a bitmap.

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Hi All:

I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
"tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?


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Hi Big Al,

In PRJT200 - English version (available on the SUPER Site)

To the right of each project title (label) is a graphic representing the
time period alloted to that project.  As the project is completed The
percentage of completion is hown as shading.

Plus PRJT200 is an .exm program, it has a bit of a learning curve but is well
worth it IMHO.

For further info. on its many features download it and consult the docs <g>.



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Date:         Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:06:59 -0700
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> qman, is this for real?  It seems fake to me.

No, it's real.  I bought one of the backlight kits from zot2u a year and a
half ago...

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>Hi John, hi Stefan,

>> I have made the opposite experiences: Sometimes the LX doesn't shut
off
>> itself at all (although it's not busy and LXPRO sais "3 minutes".
>> Don't know why.
>>
>> BTW a question: What are the conditions (normally) for the palmtop
not
>> shutting off at all? And is this always the case when also the on/off

>> key doesn't work? Or are these independant from each other?
>>
>> ______________________reply seperator_____________________________
>>
>> The only time the lx should not shut off is when it is charging. It
has to stay
>> on then.
>
>...and when it's running Windows 3.0. Therefor Stefan Peichl wrote the
>sleepon-TSR.
>But I think it's not only when running windows, but also when running
>other software that keeps the processor very busy (or whatever the
>reason is).
>
>Stefan, do you know, what' the reason for the palmtop when it's not
>going into sleep mode after 3 minutes?
>
>GTX
>daniel

Is this also true when in dos?
Does it matter whether the exit to dos was thru shutting sys mgr or
exiting sys mgr with maxidos?

A while ago, I left my 200lx in a dos app and turned it off. Later an
appointment woke it up, but nothing turned it back off. This resulted in
completely dead batteries and loss of data.

Is there a tsr that shuts off the computer after a certain time, even in
a dod app?

Thanks,

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Al Kind wrote:

>     I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
>allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
>"tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
>the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
>application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?


I've found PJT2001 to be very good. Ex SUPER - see Project Mgr by Sono.
The Project Mgr by South Pointe could be OK too, haven't tried it yet.

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So what are your impressions of the backlight kit?

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX


> On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:
>
> > qman, is this for real?  It seems fake to me.
>
> No, it's real.  I bought one of the backlight kits from zot2u a year and a
> half ago...
>
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> Most of us know that if you have a DB file like
> med.ndb and you append an icon file med.icn
> you will get an icon when you look at your med
> database.   My question is: How to put an icon
> into a class of DBs, as all .NDBs.

Al,

It's probably a bigger fix than what you were looking for, but X-Finder does
this automatically. To display your files graphically, X-Finder automatically
searches through your icons and assigns them to each of your files individually,
on the basis of these rules:

1. Look for a match to the 8-character filename (e.g. med.icn for med.ndb)
2. If none, look for a match to the 3-character extension (e.g. ndb.icn for
med.ndb)
3. If neither, assign to it the generic file.icn.

(Of course, X-Finder does a lot more than just this!)

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Doesn't PJT do that? (except the numerical %)

-----Original Message-----


Thu,  3 Jun 1999 12:18:05 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
"tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

TIA & Cheers,


*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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qman, is this for real?  It seems fake to me.


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Yeap! Domingo its real alright.

David bougth one about a year ago.
BTW: Did you notice the jump in price 100 to 150. (:-P


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Can anyone elaborate on the different things which can be tried to get the
packet driver to work?  I am trying to get it to work with my desktop modem
(lxpop worked just fine with my pcmcia modem on the palmtop).  This is
coming from someone who has followed instructions and got lxpop/pnr to work
fine as above.

    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Hi Domingo,

Confirming that the desktop modem will be connected to the palmtop?

If so you'll need a 9 pin to 25 pin adapter to connect to the modem,
Then you'll need a null modem adapter to connect the HP cable to the 9 pin
end of the 9 pin to 25 pin adapter.

Note: All of the above parts can be found at Radio Shack.

As far as the packet driver goes. You can use the same driver that you used
with lxpop. Just change COM2 to COM1 in your pppd.cfg, you might also need to
change the modem int string.

Also change the com settings in DataCom from 2 to 1 and rem the modem driver in
your autoexec.bat.


HTH


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After a day of obesessing over why I can not run PGP with POST/LX, I have
one simple question. Is there anyone on the list using PGP with POST/LX =
that
isn't using SC? If so, email me and tell me what the heck I'm doing =
wrong!


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Qman,

Could you try something?   Go to APPT, and select the "Daily View"
(may have to use F7).  Does the use of Ctrl-Up (or Ctrl-Down) move
you to the next appointment of the day, or does it move up/down
one hour at a time?

The manual (p3-10) says it should move to next appointment.  For
me when I have ExKey installed it moves an hour at a time; if I
REMark out the ExKey call and reboot, then it moves to the next
appointment as it says in the manual.

I don't have any CTRL remapping in ExKey, and think this is a bug.
I traded a few messages with Leon Phillips and he sees this too.


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Hi Bruce Francis,

Works just fine! It will not only jump to the next appointments for that day,
but if I keep pressing it will jump to the appointmnet for the next day and
so on.

What ROM version do you have? I have ROM version 1.02a
HTH


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Thu,  3 Jun 1999 17:22:24 -0500 (EST)

06h21s ago ...
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Al Kind wrote:

>
>      I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
> allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
> "tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
> the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
> application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

     Thanks again for all the suggestions...I'll give PJT a "looksee"

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:25:55 -0800, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

>>Could you try something?   Go to APPT, and select the "Daily View"
>>(may have to use F7).  Does the use of Ctrl-Up (or Ctrl-Down) move
>>you to the next appointment of the day, or does it move up/down
>>one hour at a time?
>>
>>The manual (p3-10) says it should move to next appointment.  For
>
>Works just fine! It will not only jump to the next appointments for that day,
>but if I keep pressing it will jump to the appointmnet for the next day and
>so on.
>
>What ROM version do you have? I have ROM version 1.02a

I have 1.01a.

I just tried an experiment.  Maybe Rod Whitby (who's original
post started this testing for me) could try this to:

I saved my EXKEY.INI, then deleted it and rebooted.  ExKey
reports no EXKEY.INI when it installs.  I can now go to
APPT, Daily View, and Ctrl-Up moves to the next appointment
as advertised in the manual.

I now created a very small EXKEY.INI, consisting of:

{PrtScr}={Null}

(there is a <CR> at the end of the line), rebooted, and tried
this again.  I find the following:

1) Ctrl-Up  moves only one line/hour at a time (as though
         Ctrl is not even pressed,
2) If I press    Ctrl-Shift-Up   then it moves from appointment
       to appointment as documented.  (BTW, CapsLock is off,
       according to Buddy)

It looks to me as though ExKey024 is imposing a Shift into this
operation.....  Rod's original post said that Ctrl-Shift-Arrow didn't
function as the docs of ToDo said they should unless he has CapsLock.
Rod might want to try the experiment I just tried to see if ExKey
is involved.


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On 3 Jun 1999 04:49:13 -0700, garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH (Andreas Garzotto) =
wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > My post.cfg is now 8609 and all works good.. what can I do to "trim"
> > the .cfg file some more..
>
> Does not sound large.

Well I now have two "icons" in sysmgr that runs batfiles either with
www or without..this has helped alot..

>
> Do you use HFN fonts with POST/LX? They also need quite a bit of
> memory.

Sorry to say that I do not know what you are talking about.. I am bit
afraid to delete in the cfg's.. but if you point me out in the right
direction I can delete the hfn's I don't use..

More questions: (seems like I never runs out of questions)

1.How do I save an attachment that I have gotten by mail. The helpfile
talks only on how to _send_ an attachment..

2. How can I get Post/Lx to run on my desktop pc. I use Palrun, and run
www -d and starts Post/lx. Then I push "Online" and I see the lights on
my external modem "flickers" a bit..then nothing.. The modem is the
same as I use with the adapter direct from the hp. I want to use my
desktop to download newsgroups and transfer them to the hp
afterwards..any tips?


--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX


> On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:
>
> > qman, is this for real?  It seems fake to me.
>
> No, it's real.  I bought one of the backlight kits from zot2u a year and a
> half ago...

Well, since you seem so calm and collected about it, that means that the
news is not good, right? (If there was good news on this issue, I'd be
jumping out of my skin by now!).

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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 6:05 PM
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> Can anyone elaborate on the different things which can be tried to get the
> packet driver to work?  I am trying to get it to work with my desktop
modem
> (lxpop worked just fine with my pcmcia modem on the palmtop).  This is
> coming from someone who has followed instructions and got lxpop/pnr to
work
> fine as above.
>     -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------
> Confirming that the desktop modem will be connected to the palmtop?

Sorry, I meant that I am trying to run cclxpop from the desktop, then
transfer my email to the palmtop via serial cable or flash card (as I
understood the author of cclxpop to suggest for dual machine use).   Unless
there is a way to control the internal desktop modem from the palmtop via
serial cable . . .

> As far as the packet driver goes. You can use the same driver that you
used
> with lxpop. Just change COM2 to COM1 in your pppd.cfg, you might also need
to
> change the modem int string.

The modem init string is the thing I thought was the problem, but I nailed
that down and no results (it does work with Outlook, though).

> Also change the com settings in DataCom from 2 to 1 and rem the modem
driver in
> your autoexec.bat.

When I ran lxpop from the palmtop before (with a pcmcia modem), I did not
touch or use  Datacom at all, but I did *un*rem the modem driver.  You did
your connection with Datacom?  Seems unusual, but I guess that could work.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX


> qman, is this for real?  It seems fake to me.
>     -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------
> Yeap! Domingo its real alright.
> David bougth one about a year ago.
> BTW: Did you notice the jump in price 100 to 150. (:-P
>
I'd pay more than that to Mack or someone reputable who could do a
guaranteed installation rather than tell me "the surgery was a success, but
we lost the patient".  :-(

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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> Well, since you seem so calm and collected about it, that means that
> the news is not good, right? (If there was good news on this issue,
> I'd be jumping out of my skin by now!).

Me too; you're correct.  <g> The panel is extremely difficult to install
and the power supply is external, and then to top it off the screen is
generally illegible unless the backlight is on.  Fun to experiment with,
but not really useful as a backlighting solution.  There is a bright spot
on the horizon, though.  <g>

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<Laughing>

Sorry, but I have to share this with you all...

When I first glanced at the subject line I thought it said:

Fatal Error: Palmtop Fell Out of Pocket.

Which can, on rare occasion, really BE a fatal error.

Sorry.  8¬)

Rick,
whose 100LX died after a Palmtop Fell Out of Pocket error.

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> Stefan, do you know, what' the reason for the palmtop when it's not
> going into sleep mode after 3 minutes?

There is only one reason: if a software takes over the INT08
interrupt vector instead of chaining into it, then no time out
count down takes place, which is done in the palmtops INT08.

This is how it works: There are 2 variables in the BIOS data
area, called TimOutCnt and TimOutVal. If the unit is not
connected to the power supply, TimOutCnt is decremented at
every timer tick in the INT08 TIMER0 interrupt. If the count is
zero, deep sleep is entered. However, after every keypress, the
variable TimOutCnt is reset to value of TimOutVal. That is, the
value of TimOutVal determines the time in timer ticks, when the
palmtop will enter deep sleep.

LXPRO reads/sets the value of TimOutVal to allow you different
time out values of the palmtop in the range of 1 sec to 1 hour.

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Sorry, I meant that I am trying to run cclxpop from the desktop, then
transfer my email to the palmtop via serial cable or flash card (as I
understood the author of cclxpop to suggest for dual machine use).   Unless
there is a way to control the internal desktop modem from the palmtop via
serial cable . . .

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Ok!

It doesn't work that way. You must be running a desktop version of cc:Mail.
In other words you would have your cc:Mail mailbox on your flashcard, then
you would just swap the card between the palmtop and the desktop.


HTH


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Can anyone advise me on how to transfer my PDB and ADB files from my
HP200LX to a Sharp 4500 running CE 2.0 and PC Link?
Thanks  John Chesbrough
Perth, Australia

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> Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
> LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and solar
> power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?
> Philippe

I know I've seen solar panels sold to campers and people with
RVs that put out enough current to trickle charge a car's 12VDC
battery.  If they can do that it should be enough to run an LX
and maybe charge it's batteries.

I don't have any 1st hand experience though, I'm just guessing.
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Fryday wrote:

> Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
> LX?

I have a couple of different Unisolar flexible panels that should be
able to run the LX.  My focus has been to charge batteries an use them
in what ever. I will try some experiments this weekend and report.

Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
solar
> power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?

Better to just unplug the solar panel when the output is to low.
K.I.S.S.

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Well, I was mostly concerned about someone wandering over to talk to me, casting
some shade on the solar panel, and <POOF>, I get a dead LX on my hands. If the
circuit simply cuts off when there's too little power -- just like unplugging
the power cord -- then the batteries will automatically take over.

As for charging the batteries, I've seen some solar battery chargers for about
10-15$ at HSC in Sunnyvale, CA.

Philippe

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> Fryday wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power
the
> > LX?
>
> I have a couple of different Unisolar flexible panels that should be
> able to run the LX.  My focus has been to charge batteries an use them
> in what ever. I will try some experiments this weekend and report.
>
> Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
> solar
> > power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of
it?
>
> Better to just unplug the solar panel when the output is to low.
> K.I.S.S.
>
> Colin

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Also, another way could be for the solar panel to give just enough power to
"help" the batteries without actually taking over (which would require a bigger
panel. This panel could easily be attached somehow to the LX, allowing it to be
"unfolded" in sunny conditions for that little oumph! needed to compensate, say,
for a modem connection...

Any ideas people?

Philippe

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Subject: Re: Solar Power


> > Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power
the
> > LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
solar
> > power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of
it?
> > Philippe
>
> I know I've seen solar panels sold to campers and people with
> RVs that put out enough current to trickle charge a car's 12VDC
> battery.  If they can do that it should be enough to run an LX
> and maybe charge it's batteries.
>
> I don't have any 1st hand experience though, I'm just guessing.
> cheers... Russ
>
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:11:06 -0700, Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET> =
wrote:

> Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
> solar power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power =
comes
> out of it?

Sounds like a job for a transistor.... a circuit such as this could be
extremely simple, although it still seems to me that you could just have =
an
amp meter in conjuction with the solar array to determine when enough
current was being generated. Remember, voltage isn't the problem, it's
current which makes things work. I'm sure one of the EE's on the list =
could
explain it more eloquently than I.


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Bruce Francis writes:
> I just tried an experiment.  Maybe Rod Whitby (who's original
> post started this testing for me) could try this to:

Sorry, but I removed ExKey from my HP a little while ago.  I do
everything in key200 now.  My reasons are three-fold:

1/ The extra functionality advertised for ExKey (being able to map
keys ony in certain EXM applications) only works for JKIT palmtops.

2/ I was not able to swap the key bindings for Filer and X-Finder,
then hit the Filer key from another Software Carousel session and get
it to run X-Finder.  With ExKey, it always just ran filer, but with
key200 I was able to get it to run X-Finder, no matter where I hit the
Filer key from.  This was a big factor for me, as I'm always in a
second DOS workspace developing LXTCP stuff and want to be able to swap
to X-Finder in the first SYSMGR workspace just by hitting the Filer
key.

3/ I didn't have the source code to ExKey, and it seemed a bit too
complex to not have adverse interactions with other stuff.  I've
currently disabled Buddy for the same reason.  Key200 seems to work at
a much lower level (you have to specify both key presses and
releases).

> I saved my EXKEY.INI, then deleted it and rebooted.  ExKey
> reports no EXKEY.INI when it installs.  I can now go to
> APPT, Daily View, and Ctrl-Up moves to the next appointment
> as advertised in the manual.

My APPT works as advertised with key200 loaded.

> It looks to me as though ExKey024 is imposing a Shift into this
> operation.....  Rod's original post said that Ctrl-Shift-Arrow didn't
> function as the docs of ToDo said they should unless he has CapsLock.

The docs for ExKey talk about fixing a shift problem to do with arrow
keys.  Apparently, you have to have started system manager with "100"
instead of "200" for this to work.

When I ran ExKey, I used to have problems with the arrow keys in
PalEdit (not the fault of PalEdit, as it works fine without ExKey).

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Michael Berrier wrote:

>do you run OL98, if so you need to have the mapping program from MS.

=46or the OLC2LX converter, you don't need the field-mapping add-on from
MS, because the mapping is done within the OLC2LX program.

I think Philippe's problem was that he had not specified the mapping
for his customized PDB file, so it was using the default field order,
and things were being put in the wrong places. All he needed to do was
to click the Remap Fields button and specify how he wants it mapped.

--=20
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After reading here about the SECDEV file encryption program, I decided
to try it, but there's one thing that doesn't seem to be working.

The docs said that I could specify a timeout for the volume to close
after a certain number of minutes. The line that loads it in
config.sys is:

device=3Dc:\secdev.sys c:\private.!@# /T5

The "/T5" should tell it to timeout after five minutes of inactivity.
I expected that if I left my palmtop unused for five minutes, even
with the apps open, that I would need to enter the password again
before it would let the apps access the files. However, the timeout
seems not to be working at all.

This is the main point of installing this utility - that if I leave
the palmtop unattended for a few minutes, someone won't be able to
access my data I've placed on the secure volume.

Has anyone figured this out? Surely I don't have to log out of the
apps first. Do I?

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>> application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?
>     Thanks again for all the suggestions...I'll give PJT a "looksee"
Cheers,>*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __


Hi Al,

My vote would be DOS ver. 3 or 4 of MS Project, I have a
set of disks somewhere 8-)  I think I owe you a favour if
your interested.

Best regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Just found this on the net: http://www.sundancesolar.com/

It's called Diogene, might be interesting for that little project I was talking
about...

Philippe

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Tim Shephard wrote:

> I use Post/LX's shift F5 to select certain dialups.  I'm going to be
> traveling in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if there was an
> option to setup a choice in the shift F5 selection to keep the same
> DNS parameters and all, but prompt for a telephone number.

Sh-F5 is passive, i.e. it simply overrides the CFG parameters that are in
memory with the one you specify in the Sh-F5 entry. So it does not do anything
like what you are looking for. The DNS and other parameters are encoded in the
SETUP for the ISP in the WWW.CFG file.

However: You can easily create a new script - use the same one that your ISP
utilizes now - and just modify it to remove the d= command (dial the number
which is in the "Dial=" parameter in the Setup). Instead add this:

q=Tim, enter the full dialling string - include ATDT

What q= command does is display the message you see, then it waits for the
keyboard. Whatever you type on the keyboard will be passed on the modem. So to
dial 1415 555 1212 for example, you will reply to the query above with
"atdt14155551212" (without the quotes, of course).

You'll have to add one more item to the Sh-F5 menu, namley an entry that
switches the script from whatever the ISP setup has now (say ISP_PPP_Script)
to the new script ISP_Man_Num. To do this, ad an item to the SH-F5 menu, and
call it say, "Manual Dialling" and its value will be "Script=ISP_Man_Num"
(omit the quotes).

Note 1: This strategy works also with the CHAP script, since it has the command
d= (Dial the content of the Dial= parameter in the Setup.)

Note 2: If you have ISPs that use more than one script, then you'll need to
modify each script that is used as I outlined above.

Enjoy.

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Al,

Okay, you used the word "simple".  That takes care of dedicated project
management tools such as MSP4.0, Timeline 5.0, etc.  How about Lotus Agenda?
You could make each of your projects a category within a view.  Items in each
section would be your subtasks.  You could add a numerical column to the view
to represent either percent completed or a weight assigned to each task.  In
fact, if you were to take the canned Planner app and just add the column I
suggested, you'll be all set.

You could do something similar with Grandview --- up until the end of this
year, that is.

-roger-

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> Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
> LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
solar
> power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?
> Philippe

Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode and connect them directly to
the batteries. Use cells that put out about 200ma. You can glue them directly
to the case of the lx or make a little panel. It'll charge the batteries as you
use them when there is sunlight and power the LX. The diode will prevent the
batteries from damaging the cells when there's no light. It's the setup I
use--works great.  You can get cells at Solar World, tel # 719-635-5125.
Connect more cells in series/parallel (just like batteries) to increase the
voltage and/or the current. They are small, you can use a lot of them.

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0hans Peter:

> are you from the Worldwar II generation who keep everything
> they get their hands on (VBG).

I was born after the WWII. My parents are part of the generation you describe.
They kept almost everything during thewar, because it was literally the only
way to survive. Hard for my generation and your generation to even perceive of
such a situation, where literally scraps of paper are valued to the point
where you can exchange them for food. The stories they told me about Europe in
the middle of the WWII are fascinating and hard to imagine. My father was
"wealthy", because he possessed about 150 old, some used, shaving blades.
These were exchangeable for three days' worth of bread. (You may be too young
to remember the stainless steel blades that you had to put into the shaver,
but I never kept them - when they got dull, they were thrown away. To hear
that these could still be exchanged for bread was absolutely amazing to me.)

I get over 200 messages per day, and sometimes much more. I delete hundreds of
messages per week, sometimes in the low thousands. Still many things
accumulate. I run business interests out of the palmtop, and much of my
business interests is internet-centric and uses email as the primary
communications mode. I admit that I only read about 50 to 75 messages daily
with some attention. Others go into a file to be read over the weekend, or
some special time I set aside for them. the rest go to that giant bit bucket
in Heaven... :-)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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What problems does Grandview suffer? - the date view looks like it works - Feb 29, 2000
shows up - so I assume there is something I am overlooking.

> Al,
>
> Okay, you used the word "simple".  That takes care of dedicated project
> management tools such as MSP4.0, Timeline 5.0, etc.  How about Lotus Agenda?
> You could make each of your projects a category within a view.  Items in each
> section would be your subtasks.  You could add a numerical column to the view
> to represent either percent completed or a weight assigned to each task.  In
> fact, if you were to take the canned Planner app and just add the column I
> suggested, you'll be all set.
>
> You could do something similar with Grandview --- up until the end of this
> year, that is.
>
> -roger-

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I use the port operated Greenwich serial to parallel connector.
Print on Epson LQ 850, 570, Olivetti JP 360, LJ 6L, Star NP10
Cheers Ales Bourek
bourek@med.muni.cz

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>> I for one need to print things from the 200LX on the road.
>> I never have problems printing form DOS with Greenwich.

>Could you tell me what printers did you try with the Greenwich?  Did you
>use
>the battery operated one or the port operated one?  The first worked for me
>sometimes, the latter never did.

> Domingo

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If u read below more carefully ...the type 3 HD will fit through a type
2 pcmcia card that fits into the HP200LX.


Robert Hocking wrote:
>
> > I thought the HD limitation was the PCMCIA socket current limit.
> > Since the 200LX can handle ATA flash cards I wouldn't think a HD
> > wold matter IF the current requirements were low enough.
> >
> > Russ
>
> The PCMCIA hard drives are type III.  Won't physically fit into a type
> II slot, they are too thick.
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking
> Email: hocking@flash.net
> Sterling Heights, Michigan
> System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
> Mailer: POST/LX-Registered
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And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:40:11 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> Thanks for your reply.  The style of your answer suggest to me that =
perhaps
> you were disturbed by my post.  If so, my apologies.  I was simply =
wasting
> bandwith by over-explaining myself in the face of what I felt was an =
unfair
> post .
>
> Domingo

Domingo,

O.K. me too.  If I came on too strong I also apologize, I sometimes get
easily excited, but don't really mean too.  I wasn't disturbed, just
thought this new device was really cool, and not boring.  Guess the new
stuff out there gets me excited, I really enjoy high-tech stuff, and
must have felt at the time of my post that my bubble was being burst, or
something.  I don't even remember the post much.  Sorry if you felt my
post was unfair.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:40:07 -0500
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              serialconnections
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> > I for one need to print things from the 200LX on the road.
> > I never have problems printing form DOS with Greenwich.
>
> Could you tell me what printers did you try with the Greenwich?  Did =
you use
> the battery operated one or the port operated one?  The first worked =
for me
> sometimes, the latter never did.
>
> Domingo

I think I started this printing thread, but never replied to the above
statement that they did not have any problems printing from DOS.  I
originally purchased the Greenwich printer cable directly from Greenwich.
Before I purchased it I asked the sales lady if the Cable would work for
what I needed it for.  I had explained to her that I had a DOS
accounting program that I was using to do all the book keeping & payroll
for my small business.  I wanted to be able to print payroll checks &
reports directly from my LX.  She had told me that the cable would do
what I needed, and if I had any problems, I could return it for a full
refund.  After receiving the cable, I found I could not print from DOS
with it.  I had all the correct mode statements in my "autoexec.bat"
file to redirect the printing requests to the parallel port to the
serial port & to match the port speed to the speed of the adapter.  I
could print from my accounting program using my Belkin's
serial-to-parallel adapter, but it required using the HP connectivity
cable with it, making me carry an extra cable.  So I know I was able to
print from DOS.  I called Greenwich and explained the above, and the
sales lady that originally took my order connected me to someone in
technical support.  He explained to me that the sales lady was
incorrect that they know full well that their cable was not compatible
to print from DOS, and apologized for being mislead into buying one,
and offered to return my money.  That is what I did, I sent the cable
back, and got a full refund.  They, in my opinion, and a good company,
the sales lady just did not know that their cable would not print from
DOS.  So now to my question.  If I went through all this trouble, and
Greenwich's technical support agreed with me that their cable does not
print from DOS, how did the poster to the above message get theirs to
print from DOS?  If that is so, why does Greenwich state it will not?
So anyone that is considering purchasing their cable might want to keep
all this in mind before purchasing one.  Maybe the have changed their
cable in the last year or so, I don't know.  FYI.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:40:14 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> More questions: (seems like I never runs out of questions)
>
> Mvh/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill
> Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
> Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
> Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462

FYI,

No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions
- Charles Steinmetz

:-)



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:44:27 -0500
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:27:37 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
> use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......

I have played with the BayGen radio..... I never thought of a BayGen LX =
<g>.


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:51:19 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> If u read below more carefully ...the type 3 HD will fit through a type
> 2 pcmcia card that fits into the HP200LX.
>
> Robert Hocking wrote:
> >
> > > I thought the HD limitation was the PCMCIA socket current limit.
> > > Since the 200LX can handle ATA flash cards I wouldn't think a HD
> > > wold matter IF the current requirements were low enough.
> > >
> > > Russ
> >
> > The PCMCIA hard drives are type III.  Won't physically fit into a =
type
> > II slot, they are too thick.

I don't understand your post at all.  The type III hard drives will not
fit into a type II slot.  You can't get a square block to fit through a
round hole.  What did you mean by your post?  I am reading it very
carefully, but still don't get it!  The only way that you can use a type
III hard drive in a LX is to use Accurite's DoubleSlot adapter.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:51:53 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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I think I read an article on Slashdot.org not too long ago about
something like that (for desktops). I think it's an excellent idea. If
someone came out with a little contraption about the size of the AC
adapter with a little crank on it, I think I'd probably get one!

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   R. Christopher Lott ÝSMTP:rclott@RO.COM¨
        Sent:   Friday, June 04, 1999 5:28 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Elbow Grease (was Solar Power)

        And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that
would
        use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my
palmtop......

        -Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:59:29 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199906041244.HAA01884x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Jun 4,
              99 07:44:27 am
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> > And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
> > use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......
>
> I have played with the BayGen radio..... I never thought of a BayGen LX <g>.

Jeff:

Okay, I'll go ahead and give away my secrets...   I have the Baygen radio,
but this is their small flashlight/generator that I'm thinking about using.
Problem is, the built-in DC output is spec'ed for a paltry voltage/current,
not enough to operate the palmtop.  However.... I *know* the overall unit
is capable of sufficient power when you inlude the lamp.  So, clearly some
modifications are in order....

And Steve: no, this thing isn't nearly as small as an AC adaptor - unless
you're adaptor uses tubes and was built in the 50's.  This thing is about
a foot long, and maybe six inches square in cross section.  Much bigger
than the palmtop itself.  Sorry.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:03:56 +0200
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
>use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......



They sell a hand-cranked spring-wound integrated generator radio in South
Africa. Lasts about 30 min per cranking!

:-)

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:59:29 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> Okay, I'll go ahead and give away my secrets...   I have the Baygen =
radio,
> but this is their small flashlight/generator that I'm thinking about =
using.
> Problem is, the built-in DC output is spec'ed for a paltry voltage/curre=
nt,
> not enough to operate the palmtop.  However.... I *know* the overall =
unit
> is capable of sufficient power when you inlude the lamp.  So, clearly =
some
> modifications are in order....

If you finish the project you could always sell them to LX'ers that fear =
the
Y2K situation <g>.


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:09:00 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Just received an interesting catalog from http://www.iGoCorp.com
They have lots of neat/applicable stuff for notebooks/palmtops that makes this
outfit worth checking out. 1-800-228-8374

Item 6210 and 33827 -- solar power for notebooks.
Item 42910 -- notebook light.
Item 42904 -- solar power charger.

From Campmor http://www.campmor.com

Item 22310-G -- solar AA battery charger. 1-800-226-7667

I am not related to and not an employee of these companies, just an interested
observer. (I hope this disclaimer will take care of the paperwork). I have not
tried to find these items on their websites, I have seen them in the paper
catalogs.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Fryday wrote:

> Here's a question for all of you electronics eggheads:
>
> Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
> LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and solar
> power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?
>
> Philippe
>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:12:38 -0600
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Does Solar World have a URL? Would save a dime for a phone call!

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

John Musielewicz wrote:

> > Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
> > LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
> solar
> > power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?
> > Philippe
>
> Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode and connect them directly to
> the batteries. Use cells that put out about 200ma. You can glue them directly
> to the case of the lx or make a little panel. It'll charge the batteries as you
> use them when there is sunlight and power the LX. The diode will prevent the
> batteries from damaging the cells when there's no light. It's the setup I
> use--works great.  You can get cells at Solar World, tel # 719-635-5125.
> Connect more cells in series/parallel (just like batteries) to increase the
> voltage and/or the current. They are small, you can use a lot of them.
>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:20:29 +0100
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Tim Shephard wrote:
> I use Post/LX's shift F5 to select certain dialups.  I'm going to be
> traveling in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if there was an
> option to setup a choice in the shift F5 selection to keep the same
> DNS parameters and all, but prompt for a telephone number.

There is no prompting option in POST/LX, but you can create a WWW/LX
script that uses

s=ATDT
q=Enter phone number

instead of

d=

This will stop and prompt you with "Enter phone number" and then send
to the modem whatever you enter (d= normally sends whatever you have
set as the dialing string).

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> to do the encoding. I have followed the instructions explicity, but still
> get an error that says, "Error Can Not Create File SCRATCH" :(

Some program (I assume PGP) tried to create a file named 'SCRATCH' and
is unable to do that in the current directory. This is not a memory
issue but a disk issue. Is the disk full? Is the current directory read
only? Are you running out of file handles (FILES= in CONFIG.SYS)? Is
the current directory the root directory and there are too many files
already? Is there already a file named SCRATCH and it is read only?
These are the most common reasons for why a file cannot be created.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:21:05 +0100
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> Sorry to say that I do not know what you are talking about.. I am bit
> afraid to delete in the cfg's.. but if you point me out in the right
> direction I can delete the hfn's I don't use..

If you don't know it, then this cannot be the problem. The tips &
tricks pages at www.dasoft.com tell you how to use different (e.g.
proportinal) fonts with POST/LX. Those fonts use quite a bit of memory.

> 1.How do I save an attachment that I have gotten by mail. The helpfile
> talks only on how to _send_ an attachment..

Menu File Save Attachment or Ctrl-M

> 2. How can I get Post/Lx to run on my desktop pc.

Same as on the palmtop except that you also need Palrun or any of the
other palmtop-graphics emulators.

> any tips?

Check the configuration (especially the Port= setting).

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:20:44 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> Some program (I assume PGP) tried to create a file named 'SCRATCH' and
> is unable to do that in the current directory.

Doesn't PE create a file named scratch when it is creating the .asc =
encoded
PGP file?

> Is the disk full?

No, definately not.

> Is the current directory read
> only?

No.

> Are you running out of file handles (FILES=3D in CONFIG.SYS)?

What do you suggest I put for FILES=3Dxx?

> Is the current directory the root directory and there are too many =
files
> already?

I am assuming that this is all happening in the c:\www directory.
> Is there already a file named SCRATCH and it is read only?

No.


I followed the notes on the D&A web site explicity..... it's driving me
crazy (crazier) that I can't get it to work!


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Subject:      S-P convertors & DOS (Was Re: printing methods...)
Comments: To: Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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Fri,  4 Jun 1999 09:22:18 -0400 (EDT)

42m11s ago ...
On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, Robert Hocking wrote:

<snip>...
> I had all the correct mode statements in my "autoexec.bat"
> file to redirect the printing requests to the parallel port to the
> serial port & to match the port speed to the speed of the adapter.
<snip>...
> (tech support) explained to me that the sales lady was
> incorrect that they know full well that their cable was not compatible
> to print from DOS,
<snip>...

Hi Robert and gang...

I certainly have no reason to question your experience with the
Greenwich cable, and equally no reason to doubt others who have it
working in DOS. The statement from Greenwich tech support has me
baffled.

I've always been one of those annoying guys who can't accept answers
like "because I said so" or "that's just the way it is" etc.  A S-P
convertor is a simple device with no artificial intelligence.  I still
see no way it can tell when the serial input comes from SysMgr or from
DOS.  Basically all it does is clock the serial data into a shift
register, and when all 8 data bits are there, puts the data out on the
parallel side, then pulses the /strobe line.  In the other direction, it
monitors the /busy line from the printer, and sends XOFF back to the
computer's serial port when /busy is active.  Then sends XON when /busy
is released.  Same procedure SysMgr or DOS.

If there's any problem with printing from DOS, it's probably with the
XON/XOFF handshaking.  It may be that the computer (in DOS) is waiting
for an initial XON  - and the S-P convertor is expecting to receive
data until it sends XOFF...  I've noticed something like this with my
"BSE Serial Port" convertor.  The printer needs to be offline when
first connected to the palmtop, then put online (I assume to generate
the first XON) just before printing in DOS.

HTH

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> From:    Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>
> Hi All:
>
>      I would like a simple Project Manager, or ToDo list that would
> allow me to have several sub-tasks under a project, and allow me to
> "tick off" each one as it is accomplished to yield a % compleation of
> the main project, either by bar-graph or numerical %. Does such an
> application exist for the LX? What are your recommendations?

> TIA & Cheers,

>*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager

Hi,

     This should be easy to do in 1-2-3 for both percent
complete and bar graph.  For example, set text descriptions
in column A, estimated time to complete in B, tick off in C,
and formula { B#*C# } in column D.  Where # is the row number.
At the bottom of the B column, @sum the column.  At the bottom
of D, @sum, divide by the B sum and format as percent.  Ticks
are "ones".  Graph the result with manual scale limits.

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> I thought that might be the problem. The exact problem is when I go to
> encode a message, I get an error message that says "Could Not Create File
> SCRATCH". I figured that it might have something to do with not having
> enough memory(?)

> 73 Jeff W4JEF

Jeff,

     Dumb thought,  but if you are spawning new DOS sessions,
you might be running out of file handles.  Try upping your
FILES= in CONFIG.SYS by 5 or so.

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Seems to me that that's what he's saying (i.e. you both understand
that the way to access a type III card is via an adapter that
plugs into the 200lx's type II slot)...

You are sort of talking at cross purposes, and---I think---both
understand the `physical' aspects of the problem. I guess the question
about current draw remains...

Robert Hocking wrote:
>
> > If u read below more carefully ...the type 3 HD will fit through a type
> > 2 pcmcia card that fits into the HP200LX.
> >
> > Robert Hocking wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought the HD limitation was the PCMCIA socket current limit.
> > > > Since the 200LX can handle ATA flash cards I wouldn't think a HD
> > > > wold matter IF the current requirements were low enough.
> > > >
> > > > Russ
> > >
> > > The PCMCIA hard drives are type III.  Won't physically fit into a type
> > > II slot, they are too thick.
>
> I don't understand your post at all.  The type III hard drives will not
> fit into a type II slot.  You can't get a square block to fit through a
> round hole.  What did you mean by your post?  I am reading it very
> carefully, but still don't get it!  The only way that you can use a type
> III hard drive in a LX is to use Accurite's DoubleSlot adapter.
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:04:50 -0400, Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SA=
IC.COM> wrote:

>      Dumb thought,  but if you are spawning new DOS sessions,
> you might be running out of file handles.  Try upping your
> FILES=3D in CONFIG.SYS by 5 or so.

Nope, not dumb at all <g>! My setting is FILES=3D50. I have given some
erroneous information though. The error message I'm getting is 'Error =
Could
Not Open File SCRATCH' *NOT* 'Could Not Make File SCRATCH'. Maybe this =
bit
of info is helpful in figuring out what is wrong(?)


73 Jeff W4JEF

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There is a site with info on the Baygen springwound generator being used to recharge the
batteries in an Apple eMate.   6 "winds" of the generator gave 5 hours of runtime on the
eMate.  Have a look at: http://windupradio.com/newdev.htm

> And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
> use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> --
>
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> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
> Huntsville, Alabama
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Hi,
Spurred on by Jeffs postings, I too tried to get PGP working with
PostLX. I too got the couldn't open scratch error, but I do get temp
files in my PGP directory.. _Any_ enlightenment would be appreciated.
Boy, first that Freecell game, now this; I'm feeling real stupid.

Paul


   ___            __  __  __                  ____
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 / ___/ _ `/ // / /    \  / _ `/ __/ _ \/ -_) / /
/_/   \_,_/\_,_/_/     /_/\_,_/_/ /_//_/\__/_/_/
pyarnell@proaxis.com


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQBVAwUBN1e2V7xFWAnee0BJAQHoBgIAnIcFLghGLrHxcEKpa6+qAyfAYmi0CSO4
JuOV5YpGKy0CDgl2pbILGPRLmgSprY2DfWRnKl5VJuz4xWL/Gjr3jQ=3D=3D
=3DkLbF
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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> You are sort of talking at cross purposes, and---I think---both
> understand the `physical' aspects of the problem. I guess the question
> about current draw remains...

But with the DoubleSlot, you provide the power to the two external cards
via a separate adaptor.  Now, what the current limits on the DS system
are... I don't know.  My manuals are packed up in boxes right now as I
move offices.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:01:11 -0500
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Has anyone suceeded in getting OLC2LX to work with Outlook 2000?
Whenever I try it doesn't recognize Outlook as being installed and then
crashes. Is 2000 laid out differently than 98?
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I understand climbing Mt. Everest (or even a local hill) `because
it is there'. But is there a point to `signing' messages of the kind
that are circulated on UseNet?

I find _only_ that it makes the messages longer (the message this
responds to was half the length of the sig on that message) and
I would hate to see it become common practice.

Paul Yarnell wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Spurred on by Jeffs postings, I too tried to get PGP working with
> PostLX. I too got the couldn't open scratch error, but I do get temp
> files in my PGP directory.. _Any_ enlightenment would be appreciated.
> Boy, first that Freecell game, now this; I'm feeling real stupid.
>
> Paul
>
<snip of long sig>

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:21:16 +0200
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On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:36:20 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> wrote:

> > But I get The " Fatal error" when I try to move messages from my inbox
> > to a "Read"folder. My Post.cfg is 8781..is that way to much?
>
> I bet I use more of Post/LX than you do and mine is 6248.

Mine is now 87xx.

>I took out all the
> comments.

Me too..also took out scripts I do not use from the www.cfg file..

>I removed several email boxes, and simply forward email from them to
> other email boxes.

I have three emailaccounts where I activ use two of them.. Can remove
one of them from the setup..will try this..

>I reduced the number of newsgroups I read to a minimum -
> seemed to help in removing some junk from my life, too! :¨...).

Not ready for this yet :-)) I have approx 30 newsgroups where I mostly
download headers..

> I cleaned my
> WWW.CFG a lot too. Some things are nice to try, but I could not see why I
> should be able to swap 7 fonts in my Post/LX

What fonts are this? Andreas said something about this too..

> - so I reduced the list to 2 plus
> built-in.

Guess that would be sufficient for me if I just knew where to remove
them from..

> All these steps make the config files smaller.

It has shrunk after some trimming, but I get the fail still.

> But also understand that other factors apply: How large are your message
> files?

Not that big.. the folders contains about 2-3 messages with approx
30-40llines of text each. And the outboxes all over the place maybe contains 20
messages with "normal" length too..

>The inddices take memory! How many files do you have open?

What do you mean? I run Post/lx with Maxdos from within Sysmgr. I run
the Post/lx for a "clean" sysmgr..

>How big is
> your FILES= parameter? Buffers= parameter?

My FILES is set to 50
My BUFFERS are set to 30
I also have a STACKS 9,128 (is this necceseary?)

> i also trimmed the number of TSR way back to make more room.

I run Buddy. But I have tried to remove it, but the fail still
apperas..

> I use Sofware Carousel and dedicate on Workarea to Post/LX. Still, when some
> of my message files get huge (over 10MB!!!!)

The largest file I have had in my mailbox is a messages with an
attachment of 180kb

> I used to get PalMemFail when I tried to reply to a message from a folder with
> 3500 messages.

Wow..well I guess it is something wrong here with my setup..can not
imagine what. I did a complete reinstall the other day. The only "dumb"
thing I have done is to have a sig file in the setup of each newsgroup
instead of doing the "attach sig" thingy when composing..

> Now I trimmed the messages to less than 2900, and no
> PalMemFails...

I am down to 2-3 and still get the fail..

> About two-three months ago I counted that all my folders in Post/LX contain
> something over 16,000 messages. About a week ago I counted and it came to
> 28,000! Since then I have deleted over 8,000 message, and gained 15MEGA Bytes
> on disk!
>

Well..when I find a old lay to mug I will get my hp upgraded..but until
then I have 7-8 mb free on the compactflashcard where I run www/lx
from..



>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>

Thanks for your help..(I have now read the helpfiles good so there will
be no more rookiquestions..)

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Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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<<I have played with the BayGen radio..... I never thought of a BayGen LX
<g>.>>

I have one of those myself and it has a power output on the back I believe,
but I have never played around with it.

Cheers,
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I, still being obsessed with getting PGP to work with POST/LX, have made
some observations. Maybe these will help someone tell me what I'm doing
wrong.

1) I start POST/LX from AppManager by using MaxDOS. The memory reported =
by
   LXPro in the main menu screen of POST/LX is 281148

2) When writing a message, like I'm doing now, using PE as the editor, =
the
   memory drops to 32752 and upon leaving PE it goes back up to the
   original 281148.

Is this information helpful?!?


73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:20:04 -0400, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> I find _only_ that it makes the messages longer (the message this
> responds to was half the length of the sig on that message) and
> I would hate to see it become common practice.

David, I know you seem to get really ticked about a lot of stuff <g> but
there is a real and genuine need in this day and age to encrypt, decrypt,
sign and verify messages. Email is so easy to forge but a signature isn't
quite as easy. Also, encryption will keep prying eyes out of your affairs.
These of course are my opinions, others will have varying opinions =3D)


73 Jeff W4JEF

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:27:20 -0500, Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> =
wrote:

> I have one of those myself and it has a power output on the back I =
believe,
> but I have never played around with it.

I think Mack has at least one of everything! His house is the ultimate in
cool technogadgets <g>.


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Yup, HP could repackage the LX to include a crank in the top of
the case.  Wonder how fast the hinge crack would appear then? :-)

Then again, if one reads their email with VR, and the crank was in the
bottom, the cranking could just be part of the "rotate LX to read
message". <grin>

It would be really cool if that removable generator they're developing
put out a bit more juice than the flashlight.  I'm certain Jeff would
be adding one to his "portable packet" station, that would be real cool.

So, who wants to be the first to operate a crank-powered virtual-domain
website?

> <<I have played with the BayGen radio..... I never thought of a BayGen LX
> <g>.>>

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Subject:      Re: Elbow Grease (was Solar Power)
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              Jun 4, 99 10:27:20 am
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> I have one of those myself and it has a power output on the back I believe,
> but I have never played around with it.

Mack:

What is the max current draw from the batteries on the palmtop? Typ?

-Chris


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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:26:04 -0700
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I'm really clueless when it comes to electronics.
Could you make some kind of simple circuit diagram?

Thanks!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: Solar Power


> > Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power
the
> > LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
> solar
> > power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of
it?
> > Philippe
>
> Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode and connect them directly to
> the batteries. Use cells that put out about 200ma. You can glue them directly
> to the case of the lx or make a little panel. It'll charge the batteries as
you
> use them when there is sunlight and power the LX. The diode will prevent the
> batteries from damaging the cells when there's no light. It's the setup I
> use--works great.  You can get cells at Solar World, tel # 719-635-5125.
> Connect more cells in series/parallel (just like batteries) to increase the
> voltage and/or the current. They are small, you can use a lot of them.
>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:56:56 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> David, I know you seem to get really ticked about a lot of stuff <g> but
> there is a real and genuine need in this day and age to encrypt, decrypt,
> sign and verify messages.
>

Not, for the most part, on UseNet. That's the point. I care about
signatures on checks, documents, ... I don't care about the validity of
signatures on UseNet messages because (a) no one would bother to
`forge'; and (b) even if they did, it wouldn't matter anyway. I _do_
care about the fact that signatures add (sometimes heavy amounts of)
clutter.

In UseNet it doesn't matter `who' I am. As far as this particular medium
is concerned I `am' a particular `text string'. If I were so demon
possessed as to forge a document and claim it came from you, you'd
simply publish a denial which would be just as effective irregardless of
whether the fake signature was just NetScape, PGP or anything else.

> Email is so easy to forge but a signature isn't
> quite as easy.

What kind of signature do you mean here? I can physically copy any
Ascii based sig. I can even generate a PGP-valid signature which
will yield the text string `Jeff Johns' and sign with that. To someone
else it will look as `real' as your PGP signature.

> Also, encryption will keep prying eyes out of your affairs.
> These of course are my opinions, others will have varying opinions =)
>

Again, encryption is fine. But since the purpose of UseNet is precisely
to _allow_ `prying eyes' from all over the world to see our material
it has no purpose here.

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with PGP (except, perhaps,
that I expect someone will solve the factoring problem in the next
decade or so, and then everything encrypted with PGP will suddenly
be readable). I use PGP all the time for encryption in situations
where it is useful (password lists, financial records, ...).

And while I have a registered PGP key, and correspond with people all
over the world on a very regular basis, no single person has---as yet---
requested my PGP key, or invoked any of the necessary processes to
authenticate it. They know that no one would bother to write them
masquerading as me, and if someone did, they'd certainly call me before
doing anything unusual.

I notice that you have a rather long sig. That's fine, and certainly
allowed in the charter of these lists. I assume that what you say in
the sig is true, but frankly it doesn't matter to me one iota whether
it is or not. That's the plus and the minus of UseNet. It's a truly
`democratic' forum in that anyone can claim to be anything they want.
Claiming a `signature' doesn't add (even one ounce of) weight to the
process.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:13:26 -0500
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:56:56 -0400, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> Not, for the most part, on UseNet. That's the point. I care about

This is *not* UseNet.

> What kind of signature do you mean here? I can physically copy any
> Ascii based sig. I can even generate a PGP-valid signature which
> will yield the text string `Jeff Johns' and sign with that. To someone
> else it will look as `real' as your PGP signature.

Looks are one thing, but try to verify your produced signature against my
public key and it won't work :)

> And while I have a registered PGP key, and correspond with people all
> over the world on a very regular basis, no single person has---as =
yet---


A few weeks ago I requested everybody's public key that uses PGP and was =
an
LX'er.... I received quite a few.

> I notice that you have a rather long sig. That's fine, and certainly

My sig file contains the required department name and QTH that is required
on several 'police only' lists that I subscribe. It also brags about my
200LX <g> and my love of amateur radio and lists the satellites where I =
can
be reached via amateur radio.


73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:13:34 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> What is the max current draw from the batteries on the palmtop? Typ?

The most I have seen is around 200-260ma peak when first booting with a
modem or older flashcard installed.  The normal current on a double speed on
boot up is around 100-120ma.  When doing real work it stays around 45-55ma
and when idle around 20-35ma.  The off current is around 1-2ma.

These are rough estimates from memory.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:24:15 -0700
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              4, 99 09:26:04 am"
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> > Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode

The problem is that the diode is going to have a .6-.7 volt drop across
it, which I think will make it require more sunlight to be useful.  I
think there are circuits designed for this purpose which avoid the
drop of a simple diode.  Another possibility is using a germanuim diode
(can you still buy these???).  They have a .3v drop.  He's right that you
shouldn't connect them without something.  I'm not sure they'll damage the
panel, but the panel *will* drain the batteries.

Then again, maybe it's only a concern for those of us who live in Oregon
where sunlight is only a legend.. :-)

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:27:55 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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For the most part, I agree with Mr. Ness.  However, it is reasonable that
some messages should be signed (though never encrypted).

There have been a few occasions on this list where someone attempted to
assume the identity of a high-profile poster and create some bluster.  I
believe the most recent victim was Avi.  As a businessman with a market
to develop and defend, it could be potentially harmful to Avi for a
successful imposter to fool the subscribers to this list.  A digital
signature could put the whole matter to rest and even a sophisticated
imposter could be exposed quickly and easily for all to see.

Such things happen on UseNet quite a bit.  All of the dozen or so groups
I check in on have had similar episodes where high-profile posters where
impersonated.  The low flash-point of UseNet turned those instances into
long-winded, angry threads trying to get to the bottom of the whole
affair - talk about a waste of bandwidth.  Again, a digital signature
would have been a simple and sure solution.

Finally, consider how UseNet is being used today aside from information
sharing among "friends".  Prospective and current employers,
skip-tracers, law enforcement, university admissions offices and others
can search UseNet archives for your name.  How would your employer feel
about those juvenile porn posts sent to UseNet under your name?  How
would local law enforcement feel about them?  Your spouse?

Constant use of a digital signature *could* help resolve these issues
before they blow up on you.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - You could copy the PGP signature and apply it to a bogus message -
I've seen people try to do that a lot.  Anyone using PGP would expose
that cheap trick, however.  PGP signatures are "woven into the fabric" of
the messages they sign; alter even a space and the signature fails.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:59:32 -0500
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These are on Simtel DOS

aim20.zip      254K    941230  Action Item Manager II v2.0: Project manager
ezprj402.zip  170K    910506  Project management and tracking system v4.02
mnlin2p5.zip  142K   980103  MainLine v2.5: Project Management

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:14:43 -0600
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Donno. If they do it probably www.solarworld.com or something like that. They
are in Colorado.




___________reply seperator______________

Does Solar World have a URL? Would save a dime for a phone call!

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

John Musielewicz wrote:

> > Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power
the
> > LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
> solar
> > power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of
it?
> > Philippe
>
> Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode and connect them directly
to
> the batteries. Use cells that put out about 200ma. You can glue them directly
> to the case of the lx or make a little panel. It'll charge the batteries as
you
> use them when there is sunlight and power the LX. The diode will prevent the
> batteries from damaging the cells when there's no light. It's the setup I
> use--works great.  You can get cells at Solar World, tel # 719-635-5125.
> Connect more cells in series/parallel (just like batteries) to increase the
> voltage and/or the current. They are small, you can use a lot of them.
>
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:27:55 -0500, Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> =
wrote:

> Constant use of a digital signature *could* help resolve these issues
> before they blow up on you.

Okay.... now back to my original question. PGP works 'Great!!!' with =
Goin'
Postal, as it has a routine which automatically detects and handles all =
the
PGP stuff. Well I have both Goin' Postal and POST/LX on my LX and I have
read and followed the excellent instructions by Andreas (available at the
D&A web site) about making PGP work with POST/LX but something just isn't
right, so I'll ask again, is there anyone using PGP on a regular basis on
their LX that might be able to offer some suggestions that haven't
previously been mentioned?


73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=3DPortable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     =
|
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In further thinking about PGP and POST/LX, I think it might be advantageou=
s
to remove Buddy from memory when starting POST/LX and then replace it =
when
terminating POST/LX. Is there a simple way to do this or have I finally =
just
totally lost my mind and it is not really possible to run PGP with =
POST/LX?

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:44:37 -0400
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              Larry Hunter <lhunter@RCI.ROGERS.COM>
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I have a couple of linear flash cards that I would like to use with my
200LX. Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the 2 files I need to
use it??

Larry Hunter
Toronto, Ont.

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>> Stefan, do you know, what' the reason for the palmtop when it's not
>> going into sleep mode after 3 minutes?

>There is only one reason: if a software takes over the INT08
>interrupt vector instead of chaining into it, then no time out
>count down takes place, which is done in the palmtops INT08.
>
>This is how it works: There are 2 variables in the BIOS data

<snip>

Stefan,
Thank you for the excellent explanation on the timer and deep sleep.
Please help those of us less technical. Does the timer work when in DOS?
It seems not.
Is there a way to make the palmtop shut off after the 3 minutes when in
a dos application?

Thanks,

Bob

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Hi, out there,
I'm completely new at this , so please bear with me: I've been using
the LX200 for about 5 years and find it unsurpassed, but then my needs
are not very complicated - I don't use com at all and am pretty
satisfied with the built in programs (though I may need a simple word
processor one of these days.)
Lately 3 problems have come up and any help with them would be nice:

1) I use zip.com for backing up to the PC and it works fine. But to
transfer files, I used to use either the HP connectivity pack or
Ace-Link (by Ace Technologies, which doesn't exist any more). On both
programs I now get an error message saying something about a 256 limit
on the number of files.
I've tried limiting the number of files on the HP to below 256; no
change. Obviously I can't limit the number of files on the PC. Any
suggestions?

2) On my old HP 95 I used the heart symbol (ASKII 003) to mark certain
dates (birthdays) in the Appt book. I transfered these into the 200LX,
and they print to the screen perfectly. But I am unable to create new
text with
this "letter". (As a matter of fact the first 10 or 12 askii symbols
are not obtainable). Why ??

3) In the slot of my LX I have a 20mg flash card from (Ace), which is
my "A"  drive and works well. To initialize it when necessary, I
simply insert it and re-boot the computer, all the rest is automatic.
I have an Omnibook 425 which died completely (HP said that the CPU
went, and it is too costly to repair). Both the "C" and the "=C4" drives
are flash disks and still contain information. I would like to read
this with the LX. Placing  these cards into the slot and re-booting
doesn't work; the machine does not read the card. Do I need specific
driver? Where can I get it? (These flashcards are alos from Ace)

My LX is a 2 Mega machine and I load the following programs with the
autoexec file:
Andrew3.com
Battman.exe
Magnify
Buddy.com
Moreexm

Any ideas?

Yochanan Dreifuss
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Thanks, Larry Zimmerman, for an interesting and productive post.

I want to think thru the `Avi Forgery' (I hope he won't mind if we use
that title for the `incident') situation, as it does provide a good test
case. And since it was a real situation, we have handy evidence of
the problems and possibilities. My quick view, though, is that
the forgery was exposed quickly and dealt with properly with no
bad after effect, and in a more straightforward way than if there had
been a lot of fussing around about signatures.

On the PGP issue, a few years ago when I registered my `sig' at MIT
(I see my key is dated 1995/06/18, so it was almost exactly 4 years
ago) there wasn't anything (other than good taste) that `validated' the
string that my sig produced. I chose `David Ness
72400.1116@compuserve.com>' which was my EMail address at the time.
AFAIK, I could have chosen any other string. I don't even know if
MIT kept all of those early registrations on file, or if I would have
trouble today if I registered `The Other Larry Zimmerman' or some
such. But, surely there was no reason---at least then---to `believe'
the text in my signature.

So that side of the problem reduces to where you are going to get
your public keys from, and how you establish the whole ring of trust
necessary to really `tie down' those keys. Seems to me that there's
no real way to do that without really going through the same process
(essentially) as a bank signature authorization from a trusted bank.
Isn't that what Verisign is attempting to do? Certainly one can't get a
`good list' of public keys by just asking for them, because unless they
are coming in via some trusted authority, you will end up with just as
high a probability of a forged key as you have of a forged message.

Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
<snip of a number of good points>
>
> Finally, consider how UseNet is being used today aside from information
> sharing among "friends".  Prospective and current employers,
> skip-tracers, law enforcement, university admissions offices and others
> can search UseNet archives for your name.  How would your employer feel
> about those juvenile porn posts sent to UseNet under your name?  How
> would local law enforcement feel about them?  Your spouse?
>
> Constant use of a digital signature *could* help resolve these issues
> before they blow up on you.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>

Your last point diserves special comment because it is at the core of
the matter. My honest guess is that this problem is present independent
of signature issues. The last local clergyman busted for kiddie porn
in our area claimed that it wasn't him, and that someone had forged
his `signature', but the evidence was overwhelming and he was convicted
anyway.

I can't imagine either the porn supplier or the porn consumer who will
be interested in making sure that their correspondence is absolutely
traceable, so I doubt if signature will impact this trade much.

What you say is _exactly_ correct `Constant use of a digital signature
*could* help resolve...'. However, given the volume and growth of Credit
card transactions on the net that are taking place _without_ any of
this kind of signature authentication, my guess is we are voting with
our fingers.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:27:47 -0600
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              a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Solar Power
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> > Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode

The problem is that the diode is going to have a .6-.7 volt drop across
it, which I think will make it require more sunlight to be useful.  I
think there are circuits designed for this purpose which avoid the
drop of a simple diode.  Another possibility is using a germanuim diode
(can you still buy these???).  They have a .3v drop.  He's right that you
shouldn't connect them without something.  I'm not sure they'll damage the
panel, but the panel *will* drain the batteries.

_______________reply sperator_________________

I use a standard 1N4004 silicon and the real world drop for mine is about .5.
The panel accually produces about 3.4 to 3.5 volts in full sunlight. So I do
come pretty close to 3 volts across the batteries. You need a diode to prevent
reverse current and the panels from capacitivity loading the battery.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:26:18 -0600
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              a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
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I'll try but ASCii art is not my forte. Do you have Paldraw installed on your
200LX? I can make a better drawing with that.
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I'm really clueless when it comes to electronics.
Could you make some kind of simple circuit diagram?

Thanks!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: Solar Power


> > Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power
the
> > LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and
> solar
> > power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of
it?
> > Philippe
>
> Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode and connect them directly
to
> the batteries. Use cells that put out about 200ma. You can glue them directly
> to the case of the lx or make a little panel. It'll charge the batteries as
you
> use them when there is sunlight and power the LX. The diode will prevent the
> batteries from damaging the cells when there's no light. It's the setup I
> use--works great.  You can get cells at Solar World, tel # 719-635-5125.
> Connect more cells in series/parallel (just like batteries) to increase the
> voltage and/or the current. They are small, you can use a lot of them.
>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:36:12 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:23:27 -0400, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> Certainly one can't get a
> `good list' of public keys by just asking for them

I can solve this whole debate! Mack, we need a retina scanner that can =
plug
into the serial port of the LX <g>.


73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=3DPortable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     =
|
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:50:03 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Subject:      Ok, what happened to my Zoom
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When I press the key to run Zoom (with MoreExm), I get a Bip-Bip-Blip sound.
That's never happened before. What's going on?

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:10:47 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      How do you have  lxnntp download only headers?

I hope this hasn't been answered to death already. I need to find an option
for LXNNTP download headers only and then let me select which articles to
download. How is this done?


thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:20:46 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      ÝKINDA FLUFF¨ PGP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Many have questioned why I use PGP on my LX so here's the answer. I am
having a flaming affair with a beautiful woman and I don't want my wife =
to
be able to read any personal email which I send back and forth to my =
lover.
I also frequently send pedo-porn pictures across the internet and don't =
want
the Feds to be able to see what I'm sending and I also quite frequently =
sell
drugs, which I obtain from confiscations during my police job and set up =
the
sales with customers via public networks like the internet.

NO! I don't really do any of the above! I was just trying to make a point
that *I* trust the keys which have been given to me and quite frequently =
use
them to send private emails to friends and colleagues. One other list =
member
and I have corresponded quite a bit via PGP here lately, because we had a
sincere need to do so. Nothing is foolproof. Would I have an affair via
email? No, it would be too easy for my wife's lawyer to look at my ISP's
email logs and see where the mail was going.... one could, however, use =
the
alt.anonymous newsgroup and help lessen the chance or use a remailer. I =
use
PGP for my own personal reasons. I am not having an affair, I do not send
kiddie porn, I do not sell drugs. Use it if you want to, nobody is =
forcing
it on anyone. I just want to be able to integrate it with POST/LX and so =
far
have not been able to do so. I *am* determined to figure out how to make =
it
work, as I have complete confidence in the LX!


73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=3DPortable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     =
|
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:25:37 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Re: How do you have  lxnntp download only headers?
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:10:47 -0400, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:

> I hope this hasn't been answered to death already. I need to find an =
option
> for LXNNTP download headers only and then let me select which articles =
to
> download. How is this done?

I have lxnntp and PNR on my LX and I don't think that option is
available.... Rod, can it be done?

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=3DPortable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     =
|
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:26:05 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:56:56 -0400, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:
>
> > Not, for the most part, on UseNet. That's the point. I care about
>
> This is *not* UseNet.
>

I guess I should have said `here'. I thought it would be clear
from context, but I'll be happy to call it whatever you want. What is
better and clearer?

> > What kind of signature do you mean here? I can physically copy any
> > Ascii based sig. I can even generate a PGP-valid signature which
> > will yield the text string `Jeff Johns' and sign with that. To someone
> > else it will look as `real' as your PGP signature.
>
> Looks are one thing, but try to verify your produced signature against my
> public key and it won't work :)
>

Where would you expect me to have gotten your public key from, and
why should I trust that it's yours?

> > And while I have a registered PGP key, and correspond with people all
> > over the world on a very regular basis, no single person has---as yet---
>
> A few weeks ago I requested everybody's public key that uses PGP and was an
> LX'er.... I received quite a few.
>

So if I'd generated a key that produces `Jeff Johns' and sent it to you,
you'd believe it and add it to your ring?

>
> > I notice that you have a rather long sig. That's fine, and certainly
>
> My sig file contains the required department name and QTH that is required
> on several 'police only' lists that I subscribe. It also brags about my
> 200LX <g> and my love of amateur radio and lists the satellites where I can
> be reached via amateur radio.
>
> 73 Jeff W4JEF
>

I understand. This is an interesting conversation topic in itself.
Several of the lists I regularly communicate with have many
correspondents that work for large banks. Some of these banks _require_
that their employees have sigs that are several paragraphs of
financial blabber (`The opinions expressed ... should not be interpreted
as an attempt to sell ... ). Such blabber is (a) huge; (b) boring; and
(c) surely `expensive' to the 200lx palmtopper who might see it
10-20 times in a typical day given the traffic on these lists.

If we are not careful we will soon end up in a situation where some
newsgroups _will require_ things that other newsgroups _disallow_.
Then we'll all be in a fine mess...

Of course, YMMV, but since I expect anyone who wants to contact me
further already knows (because I use a `real' return address) how
to reach me to find out any of the other ways to reach me (phone
numbers, postal addresses, web pages, ...), I find sigs, particularly
long sigs with ASCII drawings that look like garbage in NetScape, to be
an unnecessary burden on the reader. And information that might be
of casual interest (aphorisms, cute sayings, computer languages one
likes, hobbies, opinions of sports teams  ...) is probably ok
the first time I see it, but when I read 10 messages in one sitting
from someone who signs with something `clever' it gets old real quick.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:33:08 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, qman@EARTHLINK.NET
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: cc:LXPOP
Comments: To: omnilist@elektro.cmhnet.org
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I stand corrected on my original post. After reviewing the first announcement
of ccLXPOP.

It is possibile to run ccLXPOP from your Desktop PC without a Desktop version
of cc:Mail.

For some unknown reason I was thinking of reading instead of downloading.

Anyway! Here is how I did it:

I placed cclxpop.exe, pppd.cfg, wattcp.cfg, cclxpop.bat and the entire cc:Mail
"mail" directory on my flash card.

Changed com1 to com2 in the pppd.cfg

Changed cclxpop.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail\ in the wattcp.cfg to
cclxpop.spooldir=f:\mail\

Note: f:\ is my flash cards slot on my desktop.

Then ran cclxpop.bat from DOS.
Note: cclxpop.bat is what I use to run epppd.exe, cclxpop.exe and termin.com).

Note: The same external modem that I use on my Desktop is one and the same for
the palmtop. So my original modem int string in my pppd.cfg went unchanged.

HTH

    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------

"Donald R. Collins" <dcollins@trendx.com> wrote:

I thought the desktop's mailbox had a completely different format than
that of the built in cc:Mail.

Don.


Ok!

It doesn't work that way. You must be running a desktop version of cc:Mail.
In other words you would have your cc:Mail mailbox on your flashcard, then
you would just swap the card between the palmtop and the desktop.


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Regards,


Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net


ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.03

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:36:32 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Zoom fixed... bizarre
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Seems like the only thing that fixed Zoom was to add another line (for another
app) to moreexm.ini.

Biz biz biz...

Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:53:25 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Battlog
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Running battlog, I notice several power drop spikes for the backup battery.
Sometimes it seems related to my using the serial port, sometimes it doesn't
seem to be related to anything. Anyone have any clue as to why this is
heppening? I'm still scared from the last time I changed my batteries and
everything went dead, and I'm afraid my backup battery (brand new) isn't doing
it's job properly...

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:03:27 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Flash Card Delay after Power On
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Could anybody with a 220MB or 440MB Sandisk flash card tell me
the typical delay after power on? Does this delay depend on the
size of the FAT or is it only related with the card size?

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:35:06 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Fri,  4 Jun 1999 16:32:57 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     The archives at list.hplx.net
(a.k.a. www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml)

have been updated...let me know if there are any problems

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:44:41 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Accessories available for the HP200LX

> I don't understand your post at all.  The type III hard drives will not
> fit into a type II slot.  You can't get a square block to fit through a
> round hole.  What did you mean by your post?  I am reading it very
> carefully, but still don't get it!  The only way that you can use a type
> III hard drive in a LX is to use Accurite's DoubleSlot adapter.
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking

What he is refering to is a type adaptor. Think of a type II card
with a pcmcia slot connector on the exposed end. You plug that into
the type II slot and then plug the HD into the connector on the
exposed end, totally outside the computer. This allows a type III
device to fit into a type II slot. They are also used in cases where
you have two type II slots stacked for one type III but you want to
use BOTH a type II and a type III card at the same time.

A normal type adaptor will not address the power requirement issues
of the LX, therefor it will not probably support a type III HD since
they often need more than the 150ma available from the LX type II
slot. There is a company, greystone I think, that makes a type
adaptor that includes an external power adaptor so that the external
device doesn't draw power from the slot, it gets it directly from the
type adaptor. This is similar to the accurite doubleslot without the
extra slot or need for any special drivers.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:52:27 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝKINDA FLUFF¨ PGP
In-Reply-To:  <199906041920.OAA12761x@scott.net> from Jeff Johns at "Jun 4,
              99 02:20:46 pm"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have used my LX to crack Jeff Johns PGP key, and have decyphered
his email message.  Here it is for all to see:  <grin>

= START DECRYPTED PGP MESSAGE FROM <jeffj@scott.net> =

Dear COPS Producers,

I realize that the episode you filmed with me reveals that I spend
the entire day sitting in my patrol car in the shade, playing 10K and
talking to MIR on my palmtop.  Please don't air this!  On the LX list I
have told of manhunts, high-speed chases, and natural disasters.  If the
list finds out what I really do, they'll never stop harassing me.  Please,
please please!

Jeff

= END DECRYPTED PGP MESSAGE =

Now we know.... <big grin>

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:02:04 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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From:         Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
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> Nope, not dumb at all <g>! My setting is FILES=3D50. I have given some
> erroneous information though. The error message I'm getting is 'Error =
> Could
> Not Open File SCRATCH' *NOT* 'Could Not Make File SCRATCH'. Maybe this =
> bit
> of info is helpful in figuring out what is wrong(?)
>
>
> 73 Jeff W4JEF

Jeff,

     File handles would be used by opening files, as
well as creating files.  Debugged a freinds program
that was reading data files, and crashing on one.
He thought the data file was corrupt, it was the one
after all the file handles were used up.  He never
closed the data files after reading them.

     More likely though, is SCRATCH is in the wrong
directory.  Or that it dosen't exist.

Steve

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:18:17 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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48m13s ago ...
On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Could anybody with a 220MB or 440MB Sandisk flash card tell me
> the typical delay after power on? Does this delay depend on the
> size of the FAT or is it only related with the card size?

I recently got the 220MB from Thaddeus.  I usually shut down at the
X-Finder /Palmtop screen.  It comes up at power-on in less than 1
second.  Same with everything closed and topcard showing.  Filer takes
about 6 seconds to come up when first started.  Same with LX-Filer and
Stereo Shell.  I have X-Finder set up to not show disk space, and it
shows file listings almost instantly.  With "show disk space" selected
it's again about 6 seconds.  As I recall it took the same time when it
was empty as it does now with about 45MB of files.

HTH

-Peniel
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You forgot about the donut bribes...

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I have used my LX to crack Jeff Johns PGP key, and have decyphered
his email message.  Here it is for all to see:  <grin>

= START DECRYPTED PGP MESSAGE FROM <jeffj@scott.net> =

Dear COPS Producers,

I realize that the episode you filmed with me reveals that I spend
the entire day sitting in my patrol car in the shade, playing 10K and
talking to MIR on my palmtop.  Please don't air this!  On the LX list I
have told of manhunts, high-speed chases, and natural disasters.  If the
list finds out what I really do, they'll never stop harassing me.  Please,
please please!

Jeff

= END DECRYPTED PGP MESSAGE =

Now we know.... <big grin>

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:53:25 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

fr> Running battlog, I notice several power drop spikes for the backup =
battery.
fr> Sometimes it seems related to my using the serial port, sometimes it =
doesn't
fr> seem to be related to anything. Anyone have any clue as to why this =
is
fr> heppening? I'm still scared from the last time I changed my batteries =
and
fr> everything went dead, and I'm afraid my backup battery (brand new) =
isn't doing
fr> it's job properly...
fr>
fr> Thanks,
fr>
fr> Philippe
I see the same power dips on my backup occasionally. The dips seem kind =
of
connected to soft resets, perhaps the current draw required by the
"three finger salute" momentarily overwhelms the mains. I haven't had
any problems as a result, so I believe this is a normal behavior and
the backup is doing its job.

HTH

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On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:20:04 -0400, David Ness <DNess@Home.Com> wrote:

DN> I understand climbing Mt. Everest (or even a local hill) `because
DN> it is there'. But is there a point to `signing' messages of the kind
DN> that are circulated on UseNet?
DN>
DN> I find _only_ that it makes the messages longer (the message this
DN> responds to was half the length of the sig on that message) and
DN> I would hate to see it become common practice.
DN>
DN> Paul Yarnell wrote:
     <snip>
Agreed, here, probably not needed,elsewhere becoming somewhat desirable
for reasons Jeff has described and more. Common sense says don't write/pos=
t
anything you don't want to see on the front page of the newspaper
because it can be culled by a sufficiently motivated person. As
electronic communication becomes the norm, I want some protection from
that, not that I have a _need_ now but it is nice to have the
capability in reserve if I ever do want some privacy. I also "wipe"
files, again not because I have a burning need to hide anything, but
because I have been burned in the past by old memos taken out of context.
I prefer to have more control of my output. Besides, it was a real
short message <g>

Regards

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I have a DOS program which has an Icon which has been made for it to be =
used on a 200LX.  My question is how do I get that Icon to pop up when I =
make it so this application is set up in the application Icons view.  I =
am using maxdos with it.  I read the manual and it says "If your =
purchased application includes its own icon stored in a file with the =
extension .ICN, you'llsee this icon as you arrow through the choices.  =
For an application that does not have its own icon, there are three =
built-in icons and a blank icon.  The icon's name will identify it."  I =
am sure that I need to do something but I do not know what to do.  Any =
help would be much appreciated.

Thanks=20

Rob Morrison

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Stanely,

> Are you still using Stacker?
.
.
> Perhaps you can change your download directory to be on another drive
> instead of the Stacker one.

I am still using Stacker 3.00 on my 20mb Sandisk PC card, and I have no
problem downloading to it. I only had problems with downloading to my 4mb
Thin Fax EXP card, and with using my stacked Sandisk while the Thin Fax
card's driver was is loaded.

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There's another gadget I bought a few months at a local hardware store (Cole
Hardware in SF www.colehardware.com) ago that everyone might be interested in
(as a gadget or for the parts). It cost around 30-40$. It's a radio/flashlight
powered by AC-adapter/batteries/solar/crank. Really nifty, considering it's
about the size of the LX. I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to modify to hook
up or clamp to the LX and use its batteries (which can be recharged easily via
solar or the crank). It's also *much* smaller than those crank-up radios they
sell for about 75$.

I'll see what the actual name of the radio is. Just send me some e-mail if
you're interested to remind me.

Thanks,

Philippe


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> And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
> use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> --
>
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> Huntsville, Alabama
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No problem, as far as I'm concerned, with the subject or the experiment.
I think it's a worthwhile experiment for any group so that they can
get a view of (a) what signing gains; and (b) what trouble signing
costs. It was similar experiments about 3 yrs ago that caused me to
pretty much drop PGP for `active communication', reserving it only for
circumstances where either the encryption or some elaborate security was
required.

My _only_ concern v-a-v lists and groups is that people not get in the
habit of `signing' where it isn't important. I won't drag you, or the
group, through the stories of what a nuisance Netscape's `Signed'
feature causes over there, but every so often someone rediscovers the
`Signed' and `Business Card' features of NetScape and starts to load
up traffic with very substantial overhead that contributes nothing to
the quality or content of the communications. It's that aspect that
I resist.

Paul Yarnell wrote:
>
> Agreed, here, probably not needed,elsewhere becoming somewhat desirable
> for reasons Jeff has described and more. Common sense says don't write/post
> anything you don't want to see on the front page of the newspaper
> because it can be culled by a sufficiently motivated person. As
> electronic communication becomes the norm, I want some protection from
> that, not that I have a _need_ now but it is nice to have the
> capability in reserve if I ever do want some privacy. I also "wipe"
> files, again not because I have a burning need to hide anything, but
> because I have been burned in the past by old memos taken out of context.
> I prefer to have more control of my output. Besides, it was a real
> short message <g>
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
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Fri,  4 Jun 1999 19:09:22 -0400 (EDT)

05h28m28s ago ...
On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, Rob Morrison wrote:

> I have a DOS program which has an Icon which has been made for it to be
> used on a 200LX.  My question is how do I get that Icon to pop up when =
I
> make it so this application is set up in the application Icons view.  I
> am using maxdos with it.

If the icon came with the app, I assume it has the same name as the
executable.  If you're using MaxDOS, put only the path to the DOS
executable in the path line.  Tab to the icon selection, and pick the
icon.  Tab back to the path, and add MaxDOS at the front of the line.
Then, if everything is OK - hit F10.

HTH

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Dear Peniel,

Thank you for the help.  It works great!

Rob

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A couple of comments...

First, if you'll look at the Vf vs. current graphs on just about any diode,
you'll see that the drop goes up as the current increases.  That's probably
why you're seeing about a half volt instead of the oft-quoted .6 to .7
volts, which is only a rule of thumb.

Second, a germanium diode is going to be pretty leaky, and also won't
handle much current (neither may be an issue in this application).  Better,
though, would be a Shottky diode; they have comparable forward drops, block
reverse voltage well, and are readily available... but nowhere near as
inexpensive as a 1N400x.

Third, if someone considers voltage lost across the diode a significant
issue, they could always throw a few more parts at the problem and use a
transistor to block reverse voltage.  You can find a rudimentary circuit to
do this in the "design ideas" section of magazines like Electronic Design
(available in many major metro libraries).  There are also a few Web-based
circuit collections that are excellent, and I wouldn't be surprised to
learn you can find a schematic right here online.

Finally, just a thought: if one can find small, inexpensive surplus solar
cells, it might be cheaper to just toss on one more series-connected solar
cell than to spring for a fancy diode or reverse-voltage blocking circuit.
ASSUMING that the drop was a problem in the first place.

Just some brain fodder for y'all,
Rick

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On 6/4/99, at 1:27 PM, John Musielewicz wrote:

>> > Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode
>
>The problem is that the diode is going to have a .6-.7 volt drop across
>it, which I think will make it require more sunlight to be useful.  I
>think there are circuits designed for this purpose which avoid the
>drop of a simple diode.  Another possibility is using a germanuim diode
>(can you still buy these???).  They have a .3v drop.  He's right that you
>shouldn't connect them without something.  I'm not sure they'll damage the
>panel, but the panel *will* drain the batteries.
>
>_______________reply sperator_________________
>
>I use a standard 1N4004 silicon and the real world drop for mine is about
.5.
>The panel accually produces about 3.4 to 3.5 volts in full sunlight. So I
do
>come pretty close to 3 volts across the batteries. You need a diode to
prevent
>reverse current and the panels from capacitivity loading the battery.
>
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Is anyone having trouble downloading GP from my web server?  I'm trying
to move it off Earthlink, but the access log on Apache has some
questionable entries.  If you're having trouble, please email me direct,
not the list.  I may have to move it back if people are running into
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> I'll see what the actual name of the radio is. Just send me some e-mail if
> you're interested to remind me.

I'd be interested in learning more about this unit.  -Chris

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> The docs said that I could specify a timeout for the volume to close
> after a certain number of minutes. The line that loads it in
> config.sys is:
>
> device=c:\secdev.sys c:\private.!@# /T5
>
> The "/T5" should tell it to timeout after five minutes of inactivity.
> I expected that if I left my palmtop unused for five minutes, even
> with the apps open, that I would need to enter the password again
> before it would let the apps access the files. However, the timeout
> seems not to be working at all.

Curtis,
Your command looks ok.  I too use the timeout and it works for
me; the only difference is I set it timeout in 13 minutes.
Note that it won't ask for pw at the end of the timeout period.
All that happens is the encrypted disk becomes unavailable
causing an Abort, Retry, oe Ignore prompt the next time the disk
is accessed.  After access has timed out you must Login again to
get to your data.  If you're running Software Carousel you don't
have to Login from the same session.  If I've timed out and am
getting Retry prompt I can switch to another SC session, Login,
and switch back to reply Retry to reaccess the disk.

If your drive isn't timing out at all I would start looking at
other programs and/or TSRs.  Something must be periodicly
accessing that disk which resets it's timeout counter.

cheers... Russ

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> Just found this on the net: http://www.sundancesolar.com/

It only supplies up to 9VDC.
Russ

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Yes, thats why I quoted the actual drop instead of the theoretical one and
quoted the actual output of the cells. The drop is not a problem and it is much
cheaper using individual cells instead of a ready made panel. Depending on the
current output they start at a couple dollars and go up. I bought a ready made
panel for 20 bucks. Made one for half that with twice the output. A special
reverse blocking circuit is *really* overkill and you'll still have losses.
K.I.S.S.<g>

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A couple of comments...

First, if you'll look at the Vf vs. current graphs on just about any diode,
you'll see that the drop goes up as the current increases.  That's probably
why you're seeing about a half volt instead of the oft-quoted .6 to .7
volts, which is only a rule of thumb.

Second, a germanium diode is going to be pretty leaky, and also won't
handle much current (neither may be an issue in this application).  Better,
though, would be a Shottky diode; they have comparable forward drops, block
reverse voltage well, and are readily available... but nowhere near as
inexpensive as a 1N400x.

Third, if someone considers voltage lost across the diode a significant
issue, they could always throw a few more parts at the problem and use a
transistor to block reverse voltage.  You can find a rudimentary circuit to
do this in the "design ideas" section of magazines like Electronic Design
(available in many major metro libraries).  There are also a few Web-based
circuit collections that are excellent, and I wouldn't be surprised to
learn you can find a schematic right here online.

Finally, just a thought: if one can find small, inexpensive surplus solar
cells, it might be cheaper to just toss on one more series-connected solar
cell than to spring for a fancy diode or reverse-voltage blocking circuit.
ASSUMING that the drop was a problem in the first place.

Just some brain fodder for y'all,
Rick

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On 6/4/99, at 1:27 PM, John Musielewicz wrote:

>> > Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode
>
>The problem is that the diode is going to have a .6-.7 volt drop across
>it, which I think will make it require more sunlight to be useful.  I
>think there are circuits designed for this purpose which avoid the
>drop of a simple diode.  Another possibility is using a germanuim diode
>(can you still buy these???).  They have a .3v drop.  He's right that you
>shouldn't connect them without something.  I'm not sure they'll damage the
>panel, but the panel *will* drain the batteries.
>
>_______________reply sperator_________________
>
>I use a standard 1N4004 silicon and the real world drop for mine is about
..5.
>The panel accually produces about 3.4 to 3.5 volts in full sunlight. So I
do
>come pretty close to 3 volts across the batteries. You need a diode to
prevent
>reverse current and the panels from capacitivity loading the battery.
>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:36:42 -0700
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I just got started printing from my hp 200lx two weeks ago.
Out of the blue work purchased a hp2100 lazerprinter. I got
to work and there it was. With its little half moon red ir
door.

So I d/led the ir printing stuff from super and soon was
able to print from the internal apps and DOS.

Then my hp82240B hand held printer arrived.  I've d/l the
shareware for it and am able to print nicely. For some items
I grabbed the old pc mag utility prn2file and would capture
the print to file the use that to print to IR.  Now I'll
have to buy a copy of the software.

This got me interested and today I picked up a QVC Aten
SXP-325 Bidirectional serial/ parallel converter.  With a
null modem adaper & my standard hp cord I was able to print
to my home epson printer.  it has it's own power adapter and
a standard centronics male on one end with  db25 female on
the other end.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:26:40 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> There is no prompting option in POST/LX, but you can create a WWW/LX
> script that uses
>
> s=ATDT
> q=Enter phone number
>
> instead of
>
> d=

Oh, this is even better than what I suggested! My version had the response
include the ATDT too, but it is easy to forget it, and this script takes care
of that possibility. Thanks.

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> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:27:37 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
> wrote:
>
> > And then there's a project I have on the back of my shelves that would
> > use a hand-cranked spring-wound generator to operate my palmtop......
>
> I have played with the BayGen radio..... I never thought of a BayGen LX
> <g>.

Hmmm... The name "Elbow/LX" pops into my head for some reason :-) ... Kinda
goes with Palm/LX, eh? :)

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:26:43 -0700
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> Wed, 26 May 1999 10:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
>
> OK - so the conventional wisdom (now THERE'S an oxymoron!) says that
> NiCads have a "memory effect" and NiMH do not.  Of course "memory
> effect" is supposed to be a myth...
>
> Whether you call it "memory effect" or whatever, there IS a gradual
> decrease of maximum voltage and capacity when these cells are only
> partially discharged (a necessity in the palmtop).  And - this applies
> to NiMH as well.  To quote the Panasonic Nickel Metal Hydride Batteries
> - Technical Handbook:  "...repeated charge and discharge of these
> batteries under high cut-off voltage conditions (more than 1.1V per
> cell) causes a drop in the discharge voltage (which is sometimes
> accompanied by a simultaneous drop in capacity).  The discharge
> characteristics can be restored by charge and discharge to a discharge
> end voltage of down to 1.0V per cell."

All chemical systems are subject to wear and tear. In the case of batteries,
the chemical transformations cause various incomplete reactions to take
place, and so the ability of batteries to accumulate current and then
disgorge it drops (I am speaking of rechargeable ones only) with time.

Some of the batteries have better ability to "rejuvenate" and restore a more
complete transformation with the benefit of restoring the capacity etc.

I believe that the "memory effect" which seems to have been scientifically
recorded one time in one satellite, pertains to the permanent change in the
battery's inability to restore the chemical balance. As such maybe it is
better to call it "amnesia" or "lobotomy" - and that is pretty much
irreversible. But again, that was documented once.

In general, rechargeable batteries are systems that can shuttle electrons back
and forth, and though their ability to do so declines because of incomplete
chemistry, it is generally mostly a reversible effect.

For practical purposes, the batteries we use in the palmtops, while surely
experiencing effects of charge/discharge cycles, are hardly affected by the
incomplete chemistry, provided the usage of the batteries is rational!

By that I mean: When you charge them you don't try to push them into
stratospheric voltages. That you do not expose them overcharging for very long
periods of time (the heat that is generated kills the batteries faster than
anything else). That you use the batteries, not abuse them.

(This is a good place to pitch ABC/LX - ok, pitch done! :¨ )

There are several ways to restore the capacity and you mentioned one.

Having said this, I also want to add that like any chemical system the wear
and tear _does_ have permanent effects on _all_ types of batteries. Eventually
the chemicals do break down, and not amount of anything will restore them to
the old glory. That is why batteries have a rating of how many charge cycles
they can take.

My real question to everyone is this: So you buy a pair for $10-15 and you use
them for a year, two years. Maybe more. What is amazing to me is that
perfectly rational people here will spend time and effort to make sure their
auto brakes are in top condition, even replace bake pads earlier than
necessary, but when it comes to a 3 year old pair of NiMH people get upset if
they do not get 9h15m but only 8h22m of service, or even only 5h10m!

We should consider the batteries as an insurance policy - not an energy
source!

Well, that's my $0.02 on this topic.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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I do NOT want to start a political debate about national
governments versus encryption but one reason to use PGP and/or
any other strong encryption product is just to claim it as one
of your rights.  If you don't really need it now you might
sometime in the future.  While I don't like denying law
enforcement the ability to snoop on legitment criminals I do
want to protect my privacy and that includes the ability to
securely lock up my data as strongly as I want to.

Think of it as a use it or (possibly) lose it sort of thing.

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>  I now get an error message saying something about a 256 limit
> on the number of files.

The only limit to the NUMBER of files is in the root directory.
If this is your case then create some subdirectories and move
some of the files there.

cheers... Russ

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Some one wrote:
Redirect to file
----------------
Minus - pedantical
      - Desktop PC necessary
      - no printing on the road
Plus  - it's free
      - PCMCIA slot is free
=======================
Hmm,

The tool I use for this is the old pc mag utility
prn2file.com
It doesn't work with one of my old dos apps.
Anybody know of some others?

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:52:27 -0700, Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>=
 wrote:

> list finds out what I really do, they'll never stop harassing me.  =
Please,
> please please!

Darn it.... I knew I should have used a higher bit than 1024 for my key =
:(
Guys and gals, I am sorry that I have been misleading you <g>.


73 Jeff W4JEF

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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Doesn't PE create a file named scratch when it is creating the .asc encoded
> PGP file?

I am not sure I understand. PE does not create a PGP file. ???

> > Are you running out of file handles (FILES= in CONFIG.SYS)?
>
> What do you suggest I put for FILES=xx?

Depends on your setup. You might want to try more than you currently
have.

> > Is the current directory the root directory and there are too many files
> > already?
>
> I am assuming that this is all happening in the c:\www directory.

It is the directory that is the current directory on the current drive.
If you press Ctrl-Z in POST/LX, you see which one that is.

Andreas

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> erroneous information though. The error message I'm getting is 'Error Could
> Not Open File SCRATCH' *NOT* 'Could Not Make File SCRATCH'.

When PE gets back control, it looks for a file in the current directory
that contains the result. Seems that that file, which is named SCRATCH,
is either not created or not created in the current directory.

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Curtis Brown wrote:
> Andreas, do you have an email address I can mail to you? I tried using
> garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH (taking out the NOSPAM) but my message bounced
> back saying User Unknown.

Best thing is to post it here. If it *has* to be privately (please post
messages related to D&A products to support@dasoft.com, not to my
privae address(, then send it to garzNOSPAM@iprolink.ch, i.e. leave the
NOSPAM in there. It is a temporary alias that I can easily delete in
case I start get spam on that address.

Andreas

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I broke down and bought $150 worth of probes.  Mostly video and a couple =
of TV.

I wired them up to the IRXpander as shown in the instruction manual.  =
And I am very disappointed in them!

The only one that works halfway reliable is the VCR video probe, but it =
takes 20 seconds to change states from on to off, and sometimes falses =
on when it is really off.

The TV probe is very inconsistent depending where to tape it to the TV.  =
And as I said in an earlier post, the video probe on my DSS shows on all =
the time, even when off.  I checked the output voltage on it and it is =
around 100 milivolts in the off position.  The specs on the probe says =
the trigger at .2 volts.

These probes seem to have a very flaky operation.  The only reliable =
detector is the one I made by plugging an old dc wall supply to the =
switched ac outlet on the stereo and wired it direct to StarGates =
digital input, and that was FREE.

What have you all done to make these things reliable?  Despite the ways =
around it, do I really need the $100 digital bob?

Thanks for any comforting ideas...

-Tim=20
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I broke down and bought $150 worth =
of=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I wired them up to the IRXpander as =
shown in the=20
instruction manual.&nbsp; And I am very disappointed in =
them!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The only one that works halfway =
reliable is the=20
VCR video probe, but it takes 20 seconds to change states from on to =
off, and=20
sometimes falses on when it is really off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The TV probe is very inconsistent =
depending=20
where to tape it to the TV.&nbsp; And as I said in an earlier post, the =
video=20
probe on my DSS shows on all the time, even when off.&nbsp; I checked =
the output=20
voltage on it and it is around 100 milivolts in the off position.&nbsp; =
The=20
specs on the probe says the trigger at .2 volts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>These probes seem to have a very flaky =
operation.&nbsp; The=20
only reliable detector is the one I made by plugging an old dc wall =
supply to=20
the switched ac outlet on the stereo and wired it direct to StarGates =
digital=20
input, and that was FREE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What have you all done to make these things =
reliable?&nbsp;=20
Despite the ways around it, do I really need the $100 digital =
bob?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for any comforting ideas...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Tim <BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:tim.shephard@bigfoot.com">tim.shephard@bigfoot.com</A><BR>=
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href=3D"http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha">http://www.bigfoot.c=
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Jeff Johns wrote:
> In further thinking about PGP and POST/LX, I think it might be advantageous
> to remove Buddy from memory when starting POST/LX and then replace it when
> terminating POST/LX. Is there a simple way to do this or have I finally just
> totally lost my mind and it is not really possible to run PGP with POST/LX?

It is possible to use PGP with POST/LX and there are quite a few people
doing it.

Andreas


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Charset: latin1

iQB1AgUBN1jKKAAeD2hPiWepAQGKggL/U46VGxC8Rrk9IvMatQFU9eg+gl4Qth86
Uxx71PiBseI7zTa3sWxXLf+3xQ8otLz/mQuk0SuVQXJbABGCmIGAwuw2BJ964CK9
1GwbfYUNeBwj+Gc8o3OPfu57bYSea9yn
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Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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Hi
you can try email remover from http://eremover.bizhosting.com/

excerpt from the help file...

A small yet efficient Win95 utility that will help you
  deleted unwanted mails without the hassle of having to
  download entire messages.  It works by retrieving only
  the mail headers and let's you preview the first few
  lines of your messages.

  Email Remover lists all the messages and let's you choose
  which ones to delete.  After deletion, it can launch your
  regular email program to download the remaining mails


chchan


Tomas Moberg wrote:

> My mother in law have had a problem for a while now. She had recieved a
> email on her dialup account with a size of 7M
> And she just couldnt download it. She only has a 28.8k modem.
> She (and othhers) tried to remove it with Netscape mail, but As far as
> they could tell, there was no way to remove non downloaded messages.

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Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:

> Stan, where can one get more information about is this *.TSR functionality
> of SysMgr?

The HP Software Development Kit for the 100/200LX is available
from Thaddeus Computing (www.thaddeus.com).  THis SDK includes
all of HP's documentation on the BIOS of the 100/200LX and
System Manager.


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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:54:42 -0400
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Sat,  5 Jun 1999 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT)

11h59m31s ago ...
On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:

<big snip>...

> My real question to everyone is this: So you buy a pair for $10-15
> and you use  them for a year, two years. Maybe more. What is amazing
> to me is that  perfectly rational people here will spend time and
> effort to make sure their  auto brakes are in top condition, even
> replace bake pads earlier than  necessary, but when it comes to a 3
> year old pair of NiMH people get upset if  they do not get 9h15m but
> only 8h22m of service, or even only 5h10m!

Avi-

I agree in principle - would agree 100% if it took 2 years or more for
a significant decrease in capacity in the batteries I've used.
Unfortunately, it has been more like 3 months.  There are many
electrode alloys used in NiMH cells, and probably some tolerate partial
charge/discharge cycles better than others.  Just got some Panasonic
1500 mAHr NiMH from DigiKey, so will see how they do.

When the usable time for the cells drops to whatever you use in one
day, it's time to replace or recondition.  If the reconditioning works
- why not?

A charge control program is a must for preserving the health of the
rechargeables in the palmtop.  (ABC/LX - Charge-It! or whatever).

-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:57:14 +0000
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> Stefan,
> Thank you for the excellent explanation on the timer and deep sleep.
> Please help those of us less technical. Does the timer work when in =
DOS?
> It seems not.

The timer works in DOS and SysMgr. If it doesn't work for you,
try to find out, which DOS program (you used before) could cause
the problem by taking over the INT08 interrupt.

I only know of two applications, taking over the INT08:
Win3.0 and MS-Word 5.0

Old DOS games may also be problematic, because they use the
INT08 for timing purposes.

Unlike on desktops, the INT08 on the palmtop houses many
palmtop specific features like sleep modes, cursor track
and wake up events.

NOTE: If one application took over the INT08 once without
reinstalling the old vector, your palmtop will no longer go
into sleep mode. You have to reboot.

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> I recently got the 220MB from Thaddeus.  I usually shut down at the
> X-Finder /Palmtop screen.  It comes up at power-on in less than 1
> second.  Same with everything closed and topcard showing.  Filer takes
> about 6 seconds to come up when first started.

Peniel, thank you very much for your information. What is the
allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?

My 10MB SanDisk used 4KB clusters, but I changed the size to
1KB clusters using the program 1KCLUST from SUPER. I gained
about 1.5MB of diskspace at the cost of a slight delay after
power on in the range of 2 seconds.

Did you consider to change the cluster size of your 220MB card?

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:57:52 -0600
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Shotky diodes have less drop. There are IC regulators that brag on their small
difference in drop.

Steven Lawson wrote:

> > > Connect two 1.5 volt cells in series with a diode
>
> The problem is that the diode is going to have a .6-.7 volt drop across
> it, which I think will make it require more sunlight to be useful.  I
> think there are circuits designed for this purpose which avoid the
> drop of a simple diode.  Another possibility is using a germanuim diode
> (can you still buy these???).  They have a .3v drop.  He's right that you
> shouldn't connect them without something.  I'm not sure they'll damage the
> panel, but the panel *will* drain the batteries.
>
> Then again, maybe it's only a concern for those of us who live in Oregon
> where sunlight is only a legend.. :-)
>
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FWIW, I am having much better luck with the rechargable NiMH batteries than
I ever did with NiCd in all of my devices. YMMV. It was rare (miracle) if I
got the rated "300 charges" out of a NiCd. battery, usually one cell would
die after a month or so. I have 16 NiMH cells, that I use in my digital
camera, and I have had the oldest set for over two years, and probably
recharged almost every day, more than 200 times anyway, with no observerved
decrease in capacity.  I never had a NiCd last this long. The only
disadvantage to using in the HP200 is that the NiMH have high self
discharge, and after a week you might have lost say half of the capacity
just that way, so you will probably have to change cells every week.
Another plus of NiMH is that you may recharge whenever you want to.

Bryan


Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Sat,  5 Jun 1999 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 11h59m31s ago ...
> On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:
>
> <big snip>...
>
> > My real question to everyone is this: So you buy a pair for $10-15
> > and you use  them for a year, two years. Maybe more. What is amazing
> > to me is that  perfectly rational people here will spend time and
> > effort to make sure their  auto brakes are in top condition, even
> > replace bake pads earlier than  necessary, but when it comes to a 3
> > year old pair of NiMH people get upset if  they do not get 9h15m but
> > only 8h22m of service, or even only 5h10m!
>
> Avi-
>
> I agree in principle - would agree 100% if it took 2 years or more for
> a significant decrease in capacity in the batteries I've used.
> Unfortunately, it has been more like 3 months.  There are many
> electrode alloys used in NiMH cells, and probably some tolerate partial
> charge/discharge cycles better than others.  Just got some Panasonic
> 1500 mAHr NiMH from DigiKey, so will see how they do.
>
> When the usable time for the cells drops to whatever you use in one
> day, it's time to replace or recondition.  If the reconditioning works
> - why not?
>
> A charge control program is a must for preserving the health of the
> rechargeables in the palmtop.  (ABC/LX - Charge-It! or whatever).
>
> -Peniel
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>
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29m46s ago ...
On Sat,  5 Jun 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Peniel, thank you very much for your information. What is the
> allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?

Cluster size is 4K

I hadn't given much thought to changing the cluster size, since I have
plenty of room  8-)

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Sat,  5 Jun 1999 10:49:18 -0400 (EDT)

31m11s ago ...
On Sat,  5 Jun 1999, Bryan Biggers wrote:

> FWIW, I am having much better luck with the rechargable NiMH batteries =
than
> I ever did with NiCd in all of my devices. YMMV. It was rare (miracle) =
if I
> got the rated "300 charges" out of a NiCd. battery, usually one cell =
would
> die after a month or so.

Interesting...  I have 3 sets of RadioShack HiCap NiCads (2 about 3
years old, the other less than 1).  Recharged more-or-less every other
day.  Never had one of these die (yet).  Even allowing them to
discharge until the "low battery" warning, they lose a substantial
capacity in about 3 months.  All 3 sets recondition well, and are
restored to almost original capacity.  Tried the RS 1200 mAHr NiMH,
and got less life from them  8-(   Now trying the new Panasonic 1500
mAHr NiMH.

> The only
> disadvantage to using in the HP200 is that the NiMH have high self
> discharge, and after a week you might have lost say half of the capacity
> just that way, so you will probably have to change cells every week.
> Another plus of NiMH is that you may recharge whenever you want to.

Some newer NiMH seem to have solved the self-discharge problem.  The
ones sold by Mack and Thaddeus, and the Panasonic ones are supposed to
be equal or better than NiCads for self-discharge.

BTW - The Panasonic NiMH manual says that they will lose some capacity
if regularly only partially discharged and recharged.

-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:47:26 -0500
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Jeff Johns writes:
>
> > for LXNNTP download headers only and then let me select which articles to
> > download. How is this done?
>
> I have lxnntp and PNR on my LX and I don't think that option is
> available.... Rod, can it be done?

I think you're right, Jeff.

Ted

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Subject:      Re: PGP and Post

David Ness writes:
>
> Where would you expect me to have gotten your public key from, and
> why should I trust that it's yours?

I believe that is a personal decision each individual must make.
My level of trust is mainly determined by the source of the key.
I'm generally satisfied if I get the key by fingering someone's
shell account or from a key server.  I'm a little less confident
if it came from a web page.  E-mail correspondence it's okay, but
unsolicited e-mail or Usenet I do not trust.

Of course, I also factor in my knowledge of the person.  If I
have read consistent posts and e-mails from them for some time,
I have a pretty good degree of confidence.  If the person is
relatively new or unknown (to me) I will check out Deja News,
listserv archives, and White Pages information for consistency,
looking carefully at headers.  These are basically the same
precautions I take if I am making an online purchase or sale.

Interesting discussion, thanks for the thoughts folks.

Ted

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I have been out of the loop for quite sometime, so pardon my asking a
question that has no doubt been answered before. I would like to use "HP
Connectivity Pack" on Windows 95 and 98. The main objective is to use
the Appointment, Phone Book and Database files from my HP 200LX on my PC
again like I used to back in the Windows 3.1 days. Yes I already use
"WinFile Win200". Perhaps there is an easy way to import into Excel or
Outlook. If there is existing documentation perhaps someone can direct
me to a web page that is written in plain english. I thrive on simple
instructions.
Thanks friends. It is good to be back home!
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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:35:54 -0600
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Does anyone use draftchoice? I am checking it out and everytime I try to load
the grid it locks up my computer and I have to do a reboot. Has anyone else had
this problem?

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:01:30 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: 3 problems

Yochanan Dreifuss writes:
>
> 1) I use zip.com for backing up to the PC and it works fine. But to
> transfer files, I used to use either the HP connectivity pack or
> Ace-Link (by Ace Technologies, which doesn't exist any more). On both
> programs I now get an error message saying something about a 256 limit
> on the number of files.

The 256 limit is a limit of FILER. It cannot display more than 256 files
in a given directory. In order to transfer specific files, you should
try TRANSFILE WIN 200. I dont remember the specific URL to find it
but there is a link to it on the SUPER Site.

> 2) On my old HP 95 I used the heart symbol (ASKII 003) to mark certain
> dates (birthdays) in the Appt book. I transfered these into the 200LX,
> and they print to the screen perfectly. But I am unable to create new
> text with this "letter".

Apparently in Appt they are unavailable. In MEMO you can use ALT-MENU
and then type in the ascii number on the numeric keypad to get them.

> 3) In the slot of my LX I have a 20mg flash card from (Ace), which is
> my "A"  drive and works well. To initialize it when necessary, I
> simply insert it and re-boot the computer, all the rest is automatic.

What do you mean by initialize?

> My LX is a 2 Mega machine and I load the following programs with the
> autoexec file:
> Andrew3.com
> Battman.exe
> Magnify
> Buddy.com
> Moreexm

I take it you're not using Hebrew on the palmtop. Did you know that you could?
Or that you could use Qtext in Hebrew on the HP?

Behatslacha!


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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:25:06 -0400
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You should have no difficulty using Connectivity Pack to access your
Appointment, Phone and Data files on your Win 95 (and I assume Win 98)
or NT systems. My only caveat (I use connectivity pack under NT4.0 all
the time) is that---at least in my case---connectivity pack only works
in `full screen' mode. You can view the screen in a smaller window but
it is `frozen' until you let it take over the whole screen.

As this doesn't inconvenience me, I haven't attempted to find a work-
around.

BTW, I find the combination of Connectivity Pack and a PCMCIA flash
memory _extremely_ useful. It allows me to directly update (and keep)
my appointments, datafiles, phone, ... on either my big machine or on
my 200Lx, without worrying at all about `synchronization'...

Ken Moore wrote:
>
> I have been out of the loop for quite sometime, so pardon my asking a
> question that has no doubt been answered before. I would like to use "HP
> Connectivity Pack" on Windows 95 and 98. The main objective is to use
> the Appointment, Phone Book and Database files from my HP 200LX on my PC
> again like I used to back in the Windows 3.1 days. Yes I already use
> "WinFile Win200". Perhaps there is an easy way to import into Excel or
> Outlook. If there is existing documentation perhaps someone can direct
> me to a web page that is written in plain english. I thrive on simple
> instructions.
> Thanks friends. It is good to be back home!
> Ken
>

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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> > Peniel, thank you very much for your information. What is the
> > allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?
>
> Cluster size is 4K
>
> I hadn't given much thought to changing the cluster size, since I have
> plenty of room  8-)

If I recall correctly, 4K is the smallest cluster size you can have with a
220MB card.  Due to the 16-bit FAT, there can only be 65,536 (or something
like that) clusters.  So you couldn't have 1K clusters if the drive is
bigger than 64MB.  If it's bigger than 128MB, you couldn't have 2K
clusters, either.  Bigger than 256MB won't be able to have 4K clusters, I
suppose, which is something to consider when buying one of the new 320MB,
440MB, or 640MB cards.

I trust somebody will step in and correct me if I've gotten something
wrong here.  <g>

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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> > Peniel, thank you very much for your information. What is the
> > allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?
>
> Cluster size is 4K
>
> I hadn't given much thought to changing the cluster size, since I have
> plenty of room  8-)

If I recall correctly, 4K is the smallest cluster size you can have with a
220MB card.  Due to the 16-bit FAT, there can only be 65,536 (or something
like that) clusters.  So you couldn't have 1K clusters if the drive is
bigger than 64MB.  If it's bigger than 128MB, you couldn't have 2K
clusters, either.  Bigger than 256MB won't be able to have 4K clusters, I
suppose, which is something to consider when buying one of the new 320MB,
440MB, or 640MB cards.

______reply________

There are 640 MB cards out? WOW!!! Isn't the 200LX limited by the bios and dos
to 540 MB?

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Since the cluster size gets so much larger as flash cards get larger there is a
lot of wasted space. Has anyone considered writing a driver so the 200LX can
read something like a HPFS drive? The cluster size there is 512 bytes no matter
what size of partition. A large flash card could then be formatted HPFS and
there would be little wasted space.

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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> There are 640 MB cards out? WOW!!! Isn't the 200LX limited by the bios
> and dos to 540 MB?

I don't know if they're out yet, but they're supposed to be out in June.
As for the 200LX, I don't know about DOS, but I asked the question about
the BIOS a while back on the list.  Perhaps some enterprising person could
figure out how to partition the disk into an A: drive and a B: drive, as
was discussed on the list a while back as well.  <g>

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Hi,
Let me get in my 2 cents worth - this is one of the few fields that I do =
have
some experience with: I got my 200 LX from Ace Technologies (who disappea=
red in
the meantime) five or six years ago, with two NiMH batteries  and I am st=
ill
using them. I re-charge the machine whenever the voltage drops below 5.00=
 v (1 to
2 times weekly). True, in the last six months or so I  have to re-charge =
them a
little more frequently than in the beginning, but, so what. The batteries=
 were
rated at 1100 mAh and carried the =C4ce"label, so I don't know who made t=
hem. I
also use BATTman, also by Ace, which gives me the available voltage on st=
art-up
and I have Buddy.

Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Sat,  5 Jun 1999 10:49:18 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 31m11s ago ...
> On Sat,  5 Jun 1999, Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I am having much better luck with the rechargable NiMH batterie=
s than
> > I ever did with NiCd in all of my devices. YMMV. It was rare (miracle=
) if I
> > got the rated "300 charges" out of a NiCd. battery, usually one cell =
would
> > die after a month or so.
>
> Interesting...  I have 3 sets of RadioShack HiCap NiCads (2 about 3
> years old, the other less than 1).  Recharged more-or-less every other
> day.  Never had one of these die (yet).  Even allowing them to
> discharge until the "low battery" warning, they lose a substantial
> capacity in about 3 months.  All 3 sets recondition well, and are
> restored to almost original capacity.  Tried the RS 1200 mAHr NiMH,
> and got less life from them  8-(   Now trying the new Panasonic 1500
> mAHr NiMH.
>
> > The only
> > disadvantage to using in the HP200 is that the NiMH have high self
> > discharge, and after a week you might have lost say half of the capac=
ity
> > just that way, so you will probably have to change cells every week.
> > Another plus of NiMH is that you may recharge whenever you want to.
>
> Some newer NiMH seem to have solved the self-discharge problem.  The
> ones sold by Mack and Thaddeus, and the Panasonic ones are supposed to
> be equal or better than NiCads for self-discharge.
>
> BTW - The Panasonic NiMH manual says that they will lose some capacity
> if regularly only partially discharged and recharged.
>
> -Peniel
> ------------
>
> >
>
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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> There are 640 MB cards out? WOW!!! Isn't the 200LX limited by the bios
> and dos to 540 MB?

I don't know if they're out yet, but they're supposed to be out in June.
As for the 200LX, I don't know about DOS, but I asked the question about
the BIOS a while back on the list.  Perhaps some enterprising person could
figure out how to partition the disk into an A: drive and a B: drive, as
was discussed on the list a while back as well.  <g>

________reply seperator________

I don't know about A: and B: drives but it would be simple to partition a
flashcard on the desktop into two drives. The LX would assign A: to one and the
next availible letter to the other, which is usually F:. The LX only has one
floppy drive in the bios so a driver would be needed to see a B: drive. Isn't
there a DOS driver for this? Drive.sys or something? Probably need to run that
to get a B: drive. My 1 cents<g>

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:53:18 +0000
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> > What is the allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?
>
> Cluster size is 4K

Does anybody know, if the total number of allocation units on
a disk may exceed 65535 (16bit)?

Or said in other words, does a 440MB flash card compulsorily
use 8K cluster size, so that the total number of allocation
units is only 440.000/8 =3D 55000 and hence a 16bit value?

My average file size is 22K (calculated from CHKDSK info).
That is, on a 440MB flash card I can store 20.000 files.

Assuming the individual file size is equally distributed, I
would loose in general 4K disk space with every file I store
on the card, if the cluster size is 8K. Altogether I would
loose 20.000*4K =3D 80MB on a 440MB card, yielding a net storage
capacity of only 360MB.

The same calculation on a 220MB flash card with 4K cluster size
looks much better. I only loose 20MB and have a net rate of
200MB.

That is, a 440MB card is only 160MB (=3D360MB-200MB)larger than
a 220MB card concerning my file size profile. 60MB are wasted
through the cluster size of 8K. That equals roughly $300.

Viewed from the price/size ratio, you pay less per MB storage,
the higher the capacity of the card. But this is only
theoretically true, because you are wasting much of the higher
capacity, resulting in a higher price per MB of the real space
you can use for storage on these bigger cards.

Hence the cluster size is quite important.

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:13:24 -0600
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I have a program from Sandisk that is supposed to allow change of cluster size. I
tried it in the past with other laptops -- no success in getting the program to
recongnize the flashcard properly. The program will not work on the LX. I think it
has to run in protected mode or something like that. Have not tried it recently
since I now have an OB800CT.

If I could change the cluster from 2048 bytes to 512 butes, I could squeeze another
meg (I use the flash with a Bible with 3000 files.)

Anyone else try the Sandisk program?

John Musielewicz wrote:

> Since the cluster size gets so much larger as flash cards get larger there is a
> lot of wasted space. Has anyone considered writing a driver so the 200LX can
> read something like a HPFS drive? The cluster size there is 512 bytes no matter
> what size of partition. A large flash card could then be formatted HPFS and
> there would be little wasted space.
>
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> > What is the allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?
>
> Cluster size is 4K

Does anybody know, if the total number of allocation units on
a disk may exceed 65535 (16bit)?

Or said in other words, does a 440MB flash card compulsorily
use 8K cluster size, so that the total number of allocation
units is only 440.000/8 = 55000 and hence a 16bit value?

_______reply________

First, no second, yes.

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:17:40 +0200
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>The tool I use for this is the old pc mag utility
>prn2file.com
>It doesn't work with one of my old dos apps.
>Anybody know of some others?

In some apps you have to select the "print to file" option and give the file
the name LPT1 or LPT1:
I think it does the job using BIOS or not.

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:23:16 -0700
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On 5 Jun 1999 a123456@bitstream.net wrote:

> I don't know about A: and B: drives but it would be simple to
> partition a flashcard on the desktop into two drives. The LX would
> assign A: to one and the next availible letter to the other, which is
> usually F:. The LX only has one floppy drive in the bios so a driver
> would be needed to see a B: drive. Isn't there a DOS driver for this?
> Drive.sys or something? Probably need to run that to get a B: drive.
> My 1 cents<g>

Well, the SDK states:

"The plug-in card disk driver is Microsoft CARDDRV with extensions.
CARDDRV uses the CardBIOS layer to actually read and write data, learn of
card changes, etc.  See the PCMCIA chapter for infomation on CardBIOS.
CARDDRV uses drive letters A and B.  Drive letter B is used for the second
partition on a plug-in card, but partitions of this sort are never used in
practice so drive B is never used in practice.  This is not a loss since
drive letter B needed to be used up somehow so that the RAM disk, which
acts like the palmtop's hard disk, would be the industry standard hard
disk drive C. If a two-slot version of the HP palmtop had ever been made,
it is likely that drive B would have been changed to be used for that
slot."

But partitioning the card is not easy, and nobody's gotten it to work yet.
If somebody could figure it out, we could have lots more free space on our
giant flash cards, as well as (possibly) using larger flash cards than
540MB (if, in fact, the 200LX has that limitation).

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:27:52 -0700
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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Does anybody know, if the total number of allocation units on a disk
> may exceed 65535 (16bit)?

It can't, with a 16-bit FAT.

> Or said in other words, does a 440MB flash card compulsorily use 8K
> cluster size, so that the total number of allocation units is only
> 440.000/8 = 55000 and hence a 16bit value?

It does use 8K clusters.

> Viewed from the price/size ratio, you pay less per MB storage, the
> higher the capacity of the card. But this is only theoretically true,
> because you are wasting much of the higher capacity, resulting in a
> higher price per MB of the real space you can use for storage on these
> bigger cards. Hence the cluster size is quite important.

It's incredibly important for the 200LX... which is why I really wish we
could find some way to partition the cards.  Then a 440MB card could be
two 220MB cards, and use 4K clusters, which would be efficient.  A 640MB
card could use 8K clusters rather than 16K.

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:45:05 -0400
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I am sympathetic to your goals here. Since I use ZIP to avoid cluster
breakage on my bigger machines, I wonder if there isn't some way a
ZIP could be used (perhaps without the compression) to place lots of
small files into single clusters. The problem, of course, would be
the time to Get/Put files, but if there wasn't any elaborate
compression going on, perhaps there is enough HorsePower in the 200Lx
to make this reasonably effective.

Might that help with the problem? Or, are there difficulties I don't
see?

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> It's incredibly important for the 200LX... which is why I really wish we
> could find some way to partition the cards.  Then a 440MB card could be
> two 220MB cards, and use 4K clusters, which would be efficient.  A 640MB
> card could use 8K clusters rather than 16K.
>

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But partitioning the card is not easy, and nobody's gotten it to work yet.
If somebody could figure it out, we could have lots more free space on our
giant flash cards, as well as (possibly) using larger flash cards than
540MB (if, in fact, the 200LX has that limitation).
__________reply_________

So partitioning is the key. I believe the pcmcia software that comes with
PC-DOS 7 will do that for flashcards. I will look and see.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 06:55:23 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Another issue is that you can not cut and paste data from other
applications running on the PC. It would be great if this were so. Does
anyone have a workaround for this?

Anand.

At 01:25 AM 06-06-99 Sunday , you wrote:
>You should have no difficulty using Connectivity Pack to access your
>Appointment, Phone and Data files on your Win 95 (and I assume Win 98)
>or NT systems. My only caveat (I use connectivity pack under NT4.0 all
>the time) is that---at least in my case---connectivity pack only works
>in `full screen' mode. You can view the screen in a smaller window but
>it is `frozen' until you let it take over the whole screen.

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:05:24 -0700
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              Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Thanks to those offering encouragment & suggesting MaxDos...I've gotten
MaxDos, and I've reviewed the documentation.  Forgive my ignorance, but dos
was never one of my strong points :>(
I'm still not sure what I need to do next to get MaxDos functional. www\lx
and post/lx are installed & working as best they can.  I just seem to be
running out of memory when I try to use Memo as the editor.  Perhaps
someone can give me a bit of guidance regarding the installation of
MaxDos(?)

I have a 2 mb 200lx with an EXP pcmcia modem card w/2mb on it.  I put the
www/lx and post/lx files on the modem card (in f:\x directory) since I
won't need 'em if I don't have the card inserted.  I THINK I need to
install maxdos in the f:\x directory.  I'm not sure what  "PE" is that I've
seen reference to, but I do know where Memo is, so figured that would be
the editor to use, since it will not take up more space on my "F" drive,
and I only have the operating system and about 500k of program & data
residing on  "C".

I'm ok with adding
maxdos -l
(200)  (already there)
maxdos -r

to the autoexec file,

and I THINK I'm supposed to add a statement like: path: f:\x\maxdos.com
(I'm not sure what the "commandline" would be that's supposed to follow it)
  ??

There seem to be a number of other variations, but my main use will be to
get my email while travelling, so don't think I need to utilize those
additional options... or do I  ??

I'd really appreciate any assistance anyone can offer.

TIA,

Al Creswell


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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:22:08 -0600
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Put  c:\path\maxdos -l -wc:\temp in the autoexec.bat.
use c:\path\maxdos c:\path\www when you make your icon for system manager.
replace c:\path with what drives and directories you are using and replace the
c:\temp with where you want to store your swap file. HTH

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Subject:      Re: Flash Card Delay after Power On

   >I am sympathetic to your goals here. Since I use ZIP to avoid
   >cluster breakage on my bigger machines, I wonder if there isn't
   >some way a ZIP could be used (perhaps without the compression) to
   >place lots of small files into single clusters. The problem, of
   >course, would be the time to Get/Put files, but if there wasn't any
   >elaborate compression going on, perhaps there is enough HorsePower
   >in the 200Lx to make this reasonably effective.
Message-Id: <19990606013413.BWDF3641@Ý12.72.160.104¨>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:34:13 +0000

I think the Stacker adherents would prove you correct.  Stacker does all
that you suggest, and it would probably be an ideal solution for large
clusters except for the memory and performance penalty that the TSR driver
imposes on you.

I don't use Stacker myself... I'm using less than half of my 48mb CF card
(2k clusters) and I treasure free memory too much to give it up for space I
don't need (yet), but those running SC and these obscene monster cards
might consider trying Stacker with minimal compression settings...just a
thought.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:43:25 -0700
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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I don't use Stacker myself... I'm using less than half of my 48mb CF
> card (2k clusters) and I treasure free memory too much to give it up
> for space I don't need (yet), but those running SC and these obscene
> monster cards might consider trying Stacker with minimal compression
> settings...just a thought.

The only reason I'm not running Stacker (or Jam, for that matter) on a
flash card is because it seems impossible to read the compressed drive's
data from a Windows machine's card reader.  If somebody could solve that
problem....

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When I run System Manager in a Software Carousel window I am loosing memory for
environmental variables. I also cannot change the size of the environment using
the Shell= /E:xxx command. In fact when I do I end up with LESS memory no
matter how large I set it. I have gone up to 32k. I am matching the setting of
the shell command with the environment setting in scconfig. I have no problems
when I try a session without System Manager, then the /e:xxx switch seems to
work. Anybody have any ideas on this? TIA

John

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 03:33:52 GMT
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Russel Brooks wrote:

>Your command looks ok.  I too use the timeout and it works for
>me; the only difference is I set it timeout in 13 minutes.

I think I found the problem - the minutes counter counts only the time
while the palmtop is turned on. I thought that if I set it to 30
minutes for example, then turned the palmtop off for an hour, that it
would ask for the password when it tried to access the F: drive again.
It won't.

So now I've set it to three minutes, and I guess I'll live with that.

thanks,

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On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Curtis Cameron wrote:

> I think I found the problem - the minutes counter counts only the time
> while the palmtop is turned on. I thought that if I set it to 30
> minutes for example, then turned the palmtop off for an hour, that it
> would ask for the password when it tried to access the F: drive again.
> It won't.

Is the source to SecDev included with the program?  If so, perhaps one of
you talented programmers could figure out a way around this.  I suppose
the only way would be to check the palmtop's clock to see if the required
elapsed time has gone by... but I could be wrong.y

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Thanks for reading.
I have a few HP 95lx serial cables for sale. They
will need to be fabricated.

One side is the standard 4 pin female to the HP95lx port.
The other side has an 8 pin RJ?? type of jack that will
need to be modified for your use.

Best Regards,
 David
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I cut and paste to/from Windowed DOS to Win95 routinely.
If your Dos app. is set to receive keyboard input, you can paste
from the clipboard.

Anand Rao wrote:

> Another issue is that you can not cut and paste data from other
> applications running on the PC. It would be great if this were so. Does
> anyone have a workaround for this?
>
> Anand.
>
> At 01:25 AM 06-06-99 Sunday , you wrote:
> >You should have no difficulty using Connectivity Pack to access your
> >Appointment, Phone and Data files on your Win 95 (and I assume Win 98)
> >or NT systems. My only caveat (I use connectivity pack under NT4.0 all
> >the time) is that---at least in my case---connectivity pack only works
> >in `full screen' mode. You can view the screen in a smaller window but
> >it is `frozen' until you let it take over the whole screen.

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:30:48 -0700
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John,

Thank you for the hints...I've tried to follow your suggestions, however
nothing's changed...as soon as I go to "Compose" (F2) a message, when I get
into the text area and press "Enter" or "F3", the screen blanks for a
second or so, then returns to the "Compose" screen.  The only TSR running
is nofiddle, so I should think there's sufficient memory to run www/lx and
post/lx.

I've added the directory f:\temp, and I've modified the Path statement in
the Post/LX icon setup to the following, as you suggested:

F:\X\MAXDOS.COM F:\X\WWW.EXE -d !F:\X\POST.EXE|300

There are also upside-down ! and ? placed in the "Comments:" field.

My autoexec looks like this, without all the Rem's:

@echo off
Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive.
prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;f:\;f:\x
c:
Rem
assign e:=a:

d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1

f:\x\maxdos.com -l -wf:\temp

call d:\bin\llras

F:
cd\x
maxdos.com -l
nofiddle.com
200
maxdos.com -r

It's still doing the same thing it was before I made the above changes, so
it appears I haven't done something quite right, or something else is amiss.

Any suggestions/ideas?

TIA,

Al Creswell




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>
>Put  c:\path\maxdos -l -wc:\temp in the autoexec.bat.
>use c:\path\maxdos c:\path\www when you make your icon for system manager.
>replace c:\path with what drives and directories you are using and replace
the
>c:\temp with where you want to store your swap file. HTH

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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:30:48 -0700, Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.N=
ET> wrote:

> is nofiddle, so I should think there's sufficient memory to run www/lx =
and
> post/lx.

Here's my autoexec.bat file:

@echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\stereo;c:\pe;c:\tsr;c:\bin
Rem assign e:=3Da:
SET TZ=3DCST6CDT
SET LXTCP.CFG=3Dc:\pnr\wattcp.cfg
SET PGPPATH=3Dc:\pg26
SET PATH=3Dc:\pg26;%PATH%
altcic
abctsr
andrew3
rem helv200
click
bcursor
lxpromin
dosclip
rem killmsg /m
maxdos -l
c:\buddy\buddy.com
nofiddle
200

And here's what my line for the starting of POST/LX looks like (in
AppManager):

c:\tsr\maxdos.com -d c:\www www.exe -d !c:\www\post.exe

Maybe this will be helpful for you. Good luck!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Bob,

> If I could change the cluster from 2048 bytes to 512 butes, I could squeeze another
> meg (I use the flash with a Bible with 3000 files.)

This strategy will not work automatically. Here is why: There is a table on
the disk called FAT - File Allocation Table. It addresses each cluster on the
drive. The maximum number of clusters it can address is 65,536.

To determine if you can make the cluster size as small as 512 bytes divide the
total space of the disk by 512. If you get a number larger than 65,536, you
will not be able to address all the clusters, since the max is 65,536.

Example: I have a 160M drive. That is 160,763,904 bytes total disk space.

It will take 313,992 clusters of 512 bytes each to cover the whole disk. But
I'll be addressing at most 65,536 or 33,554,432 bytes - a waste of 130M or so.

Let's see 160M / 2048 = 78,498 - and I'll cover 65,536 * 2048 = 134,217,728
byte - still wasting nearly 30M.

Clustersize 4096 yields 39,249 clusters, and there is waste due to lack of
addressing clusters.

There is another waste factor associated with clusters: It is called slack and
it is due to the fact that files are allocated in whole clusters. So an icon
file at 200 bytes takes 3896 byte in addition on my disk, and that 3800+ byte
is wasted = slack.

You can easily check and see if it makes sense to allocate 512 byte sectors.
If you have huge files, then a small cluster is a bad idea. If you have many
many smaller files, a small cluster is a better idea - but it is subject to
the constraints above.

Good luck.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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testing filtering


Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
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Swain West Rm. 117
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Al Creswell wrote:
> nothing's changed...as soon as I go to "Compose" (F2) a message, when I get
> into the text area and press "Enter" or "F3", the screen blanks for a
> second or so, then returns to the "Compose" screen.

If you use MaxDOS the way you do, SysMgr is swapped out of memory and
therefore, MEMO cannot be launched (because it is simply not there). So
I suggest to use a different editor instead of MEMO, e.g. PE.

>  The only TSR running
> is nofiddle

Nofiddle is not a TSR, BTW. It does changes some stuff and terminates,
i.e. does not stay in memory.

> There are also upside-down ! and ? placed in the "Comments:" field.

Even without MaxDOS, this prevents that MEMO can be accessed.

> assign e:=a:

You'd better take that statement out of the AUTOEXEC.BAT. It has
nothing to do with your current problem, but it takes up a few K of RAM
(it is a TSR) and can be harmful in combination with some programs.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:36:40 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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> Is it possible to use solar power to generate enough electricity to power the
> LX? Is there some kind of circuit that would allow both the batteries and solar
> power, allowing the solar power to take over if enough power comes out of it?

I have a solar powered NiCd chharger. I see no meaning in having the
hp200lx solar powered. Better to charge NiCd:s and use them in the HP
if You dont whant to depend on Your wall outlett.

The charger was very sheep and should be fairly easy to find.


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I called SanDisk Germany and they told me of a 160MB CF card
available at 4.quarter 1999 and a 880MB ATA PC card available
at the beginning of year 2000.

With my typical file size of 22K, a 880MB would only be a real
560MB card, so there is no need for me to wait for that one.

I guess, a 220MB card is a good compromise concerning price and
waste of capacity because of cluster size.

Another solution, I have to consider, is to get a 64MB CF with
1K clusters for backing up my 64MB RAM drive (I hate to rely
on a desktop for backups) and wait for a 128MB CF with 2K
clusters for general use. This would also be more future
oriented concerning all those devices to come with CF slots.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:16:24 +0200
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To resolve the printing problem via serial to parallel line poweed data
convertor GA945-HP from Greenwich instruments LTD.

--------------------original message-------------------------
>how did the poster to the above message get theirs to
>print from DOS?  If that is so, why does Greenwich state it will not?
>So anyone that is considering purchasing their cable might want to keep
>all this in mind before purchasing one.  Maybe the have changed their
>cable in the last year or so, I don't know.  FYI.
>Best Regards, Robert Hocking
>Email: hocking@flash.net

I must just repeat what I have already written. I have a doublespeed 6MB HP
200LX and I use the port operated Greenwich serial to parallel connector
GA945-HP to print on Epson LQ 850, 570, Olivetti JP 360, LJ 6L, Star NP10
and in the modification I have described on this list I use the same cable
for serial conections of the 200LX to other PCs. The only limitation this
cable from Greenwich has (and which is mentioned also in the leaflet that
comes with it is, that some printers may print a single character before
starting to print what is being sent to the printer). The cable costs here
in the Czech Republic about 30$. I have seldomly encountered the situatiin,
when things start printing nonsence. The easiest fix for this is to go to
Memo editor, write a few random characters and print them through the
Greenwich cable, then go back to DOS and things are always fine. As this has
helped always, I have never pursued what makes the 200LX print the nonsence
and what this swich from DOS to Memo and DOS really does. I print form
Qedit, askSam (a superb DOS hypertext database -see www.asksam.com- and PIM,
MS-Word for DOS ver. 5.5, Norton Commander etc.). As I think that
printing-on-the-road is essential for many. Also repeatedly in the Palmtop
Catalogue and the HP Palmtop Paper it says for the Greenwich cable "
...print form Memo, 1-2-3, Phone, other built-ins, or your favorite DOS
program".  I hope this helps people deciding on the easiest, most portable a
nd economical printing method for the 95LX (with 9 to 4 pin converter), 100
and 200LX and Omnigo.
Ales Bourek, M.D.
bourek@med.muni.cz

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:09:44 +1000
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Hello all.

I just thaught I would tell of a success story.  I received an 1.3mb
email recently, and thaught I would try to retrie ve it with the
palmtop Post/Lx.

It got it in the first go, and then went on to the other 100 emails in
my in basket!

I used to have trouble collecting any more than ten small emails with
the email software i was using on the palmtop before postLX

Well done on a great product D&A.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:27:58 +0100
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At ftp.dasoft.com in the MISC directory, there is now an archive named
IR.ZIP. It contains a utility named IR.EXE plus documentation for it.
IR.EXE is freeware and allows you to do quite a few things with the
infrared port of the 200LX. It is an IrDA implementation and
the possibilities you have when using it include:

Sending AT commands to an IrDA modem

Turning the palmtop into an IrDA client and testing IrDA stuff with it

Making the palmtop emulate an IrDA printer and save the printed stuff
to a file

Exchange items such as vCard and vCalendar entries with another IrDA
device (e.g. the Nokia 8810 GSM phone) using the OBEX ultra light
protocol.

If somebody wants to put a copy onto the S.U.P.E.R. site, this is fine.

And maybe somebody can forward this announcement to HPHAND on
CompuServe so that the few left behind there are informed too.

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SInce some time, I get strange HEX numbers in the upper left
corner if I access the supernew page with HV. Again, sometimes
HV succeeds in indexing the page, sometimes not and I have to
reboot because of a frozen keyboard. This always happens with
the lxmap page:

http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html

I see the value '1000' in the upper left corner and indexing
reaches page 5 and that was it.

I also have trouble to download files which are redirected to
www.thaddeus.com/ftp/. I can only download them through direct
access on the thaddeus site.

I have no idea, if all this is related to my ISP or the SUPER
page or HV or all three together?

A nice solution would be an automatic email service of SUPER:
I send an email to a special super address and the body of the
email contains a zip file name. In return I get the file send
as attachment to my address.

That would make me more independent from HV and downloads could
take place at email download speed.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 09:52:19 -0400
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Sun,  6 Jun 1999 09:26:19 -0400 (EDT)

07h57m31s ago ...
On Sun,  6 Jun 1999, Al Creswell wrote:

> nothing's changed...as soon as I go to "Compose" (F2) a message, when I =
get
> into the text area and press "Enter" or "F3", the screen blanks for a
> second or so, then returns to the "Compose" screen.

In a MaxDOS session MEMO isn't available.  Andreas mentioned this and
suggested PE.  This is available on SUPER and D&A software's site.  PE
is written by Andreas, and works beautifully with Post/LX

> I've added the directory f:\temp, and I've modified the Path statement =
in
> the Post/LX icon setup to the following, as you suggested:
>
> F:\X\MAXDOS.COM F:\X\WWW.EXE -d !F:\X\POST.EXE|300

If you have room, put maxdos and the swap file on C: - It'll be a LOT
faster.  Also, the |300 at the end isn't needed.  With MaxDOS, you have
all avaliable space.

If you put maxdos on C: in your path, try this:

maxdos -df:\x  www -d "!post"

> There are also upside-down ! and ? placed in the "Comments:" field.

Not needed in a MaxDOS session

> My autoexec looks like this,  <Rems removed>
>
> @echo off
> prompt $p$g
> path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;f:\;f:\x
> c:
> assign e:=3Da:

You probably don't need this.

> d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1
> f:\x\maxdos.com -l -wf:\temp

This is OK, but maxdos might be better kept on c:   The swap file
definitely should be on c: if you have room.

> call d:\bin\llras

Don't need this unless you're using LapLink

> F:
> cd\x
> maxdos.com -l

Uhhh - why do you have maxdos installed a second time here?  It's
already installed after the cic100 line...

> nofiddle.com

Don't need this in a MaxDOS session, since SysMgr is swapped out.

> 200
> maxdos.com -r
---------------------------

HTH

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Hi everyone,

 > A nice solution would be an automatic email service of SUPER:
> I send an email to a special super address and the body of the
> email contains a zip file name. In return I get the file send
> as attachment to my address.
>
> That would make me more independent from HV and downloads could
> take place at email download speed.

As I do not use a browser on my Hp200lx, I had been looking for
an internet-service, which will send you any webpage/file by
email attachement, some while ago, but without success.
I darkly remember that I heard about this kind of service
somewhere somewhen (Maybe I just dreamt about it).

Does anybody know whether something like this exists?

I had also been looking for a reasonable "news by email" service
in vain. I would be interested in getting world/european/german
news by email.

TIA
Reinhard



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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:06:57 "GMT"
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Subject:      Re: PGP and Post
Comments: To: theise@netins.net

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Theodore Heise wrote:

> My level of trust is mainly determined by the source of the key.
> I'm generally satisfied if I get the key by fingering someone's
> shell account or from a key server.  I'm a little less confident
> if it came from a web page.

You should not trust key servers. They have no security what so ever against forgeries. Anybody can send a key to the key servers using any user id they like.

Finger and web pages are more secure. Nobody can change my  web page without hacking the server.

One easy way to verify a key is to use it to encrypt a message to the key owner. If they can read the message then it was the right key.

If anybody wants my key it's at http://www.users.wineasy.se/amanda/pgpkey.txt

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bob <bobv@SOS.NET> wrote:

> Does the timer work when in DOS?
> It seems not.
> Is there a way to make the palmtop shut off after the 3 minutes when in
> a dos application?

Yes it does, for 99.4% of the DOS programs.  But if the DOS
program takes over the Int08, then it will inadvertantly
disable the auto shutoff.

I don't know if there is anything that can be done to "fix" a
DOS program that messes up the auto shutoff.  Usually, though,
when you quite that DOS program, it puts the interrupt vector
back and auto shutoff should be re-activated. If your DOS
program does this, then one solution is to just quit the DOS
program when you want to turn the palmtop off.


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Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> What do you mean? I run Post/lx with Maxdos from within Sysmgr. I run
> the Post/lx for a "clean" sysmgr..

Have you tried to run WWW/LX Plus after quiting SysMgr just to
see if it will work for you?  Use &More Menu Application
Terminate all to quite SysMgr.  Then at the DOS prompt, use
the MEM command to tell you how much free RAM you have.  How
much does it report?  Then try to tun POST or WWW & POST.
They should run fine.

I don't use MaxDOS, so I cannot comment on how much memory it
will give you WWW/LX Plus.  But perhaps you can try another
setup for MaxDOS that will just run the MEM command so you can
see for sure.

What kinds of TSR's and drivers are you loading in your
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files?  Perhaps you have some
unneded stuff in there?  Also, you don't need a STACKS command
in CONFIG.SYS.


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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:35:18 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun,  6 Jun 1999 11:24:21 -0400 (EDT)

03h44m35s ago ...
On Sun,  6 Jun 1999, BOUREK wrote:

> I have seldomly encountered the situatiin,
> when things start printing nonsence. The easiest fix for this is to go =
to
> Memo editor, write a few random characters and print them through the
> Greenwich cable, then go back to DOS and things are always fine. As =
this has
> helped always, I have never pursued what makes the 200LX print the =
nonsence
> and what this swich from DOS to Memo and DOS really does.

I use a different S-P convertor, but with mine, the garbage characters
result from having the port set to the wrong speed.  It has happened
after using email or browsing the web, since my LX-to-modem speed is
19200 and the S-P wants 9600 bps.  Probably going into MEMO sets the
speed back to 9600.  Now I start my DOS apps that involve printing from
batch files to set port speed to 9600.  No more problems.

HTH

-Peniel
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Peniel - Can you explain reconditioning and how it is done? Or can you
point me to a FAQ on recondiitioning? I have used both NiCd and NiMH
batteries and finally stopped because I couldn't get a day's life out of
a charge. They were RS batteries used with a RS charger.

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

> Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:54:42 -0400
> From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
>
> Sat,  5 Jun 1999 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 11h59m31s ago ...
> On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:
>
 <big snip>...
>
> When the usable time for the cells drops to whatever you use in one
> day, it's time to replace or recondition.  If the reconditioning works
> - why not?
>
> A charge control program is a must for preserving the health of the
> rechargeables in the palmtop.  (ABC/LX - Charge-It! or whatever).
>
> -Peniel
> ------------
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I'm looking for broken palmtops. German versions preferred.
Please contact me off list.

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David,

> Well done on a great product D&A.

Really a great product.

Regards

Helmuth

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Stefan,

> A nice solution would be an automatic email service of SUPER:
> I send an email to a special super address and the body of the
> email contains a zip file name. In return I get the file send
> as attachment to my address.

I have a very strong desire for that solution, especially today, where
internet and webbrowsing became a hassle, due to the amount of data,
which a browser has to handle.

> That would make me more independent from HV and downloads could
> take place at email download speed.

I wish this idea would become reality very soon.

Regards

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Reinhard,

> I had also been looking for a reasonable "news by email" service
> in vain. I would be interested in getting world/european/german
> news by email.

Try www.dwelle.de and register.

Regards

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Stefan,

> I'm looking for broken palmtops. German versions preferred.
> Please contact me off list.

You too!

Regards

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Hi Bob

> Peniel - Can you explain reconditioning and how it is done? Or can you
> point me to a FAQ on recondiitioning? I have used both NiCd and NiMH
> batteries and finally stopped because I couldn't get a day's life out of
> a charge. They were RS batteries used with a RS charger.

I am not Peniel, but I will answer your question anyway <g>.

Recondition means discharging the batteries to at least 1.00V
(for AA-cells) and fully charging them again. As it has been
stated here before, you cannot discharge the batteries with the
HPLX to this level, so you can either get yourself a charger
with discharge functionality or put the batteries into a
flashlight or something similar and leave it on until they are
completely empty. The manual of my charger even states that the
discharge-recharge cycle should be repeated several times for
"badly treated" rechargebles to restore their original capacity.

Reinhard

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> > Well done on a great product D&A.
>
> Really a great product.

I just wanted to mention that I never had a problems downloading
big emails with "Goin' Postal". There seem to be many great
products <g>. I don't want to start a discussion about hplx-
mailers here, just wanted to restore equilibrium.

Reinhard



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A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

What is amazing to me is that
> perfectly rational people here will spend time and effort ... when it comes
> to a 3 year old pair of NiMH people get upset if
> they do not get 9h15m but only 8h22m of service, or even only 5h10m!

Well said, Avi.  I don't understand the obsession over
batteries either.  In my life, my palmtop batteries are way
down on my list of stuff to worry about.  I try to take good
care of them, but they do not possess me.


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William Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> a Greek letter
> beta above the 'S' and when I hit Fn+S I get a beta and do not activate
> SmartCaps.  Does anyone have a work around to turn on SmartCaps?

I doubt that you can change the Buddy Fn-S key to control
SmartCaps.  I can think of two work-arounds.  Look in the
100/200LX manualy to find another key sequence that will give
you that Greek symbol, usually something like a Alt and three
digits.  Or temporarily turn off Buddy with Ctrl and the minus
key, then the Fn-S will gove you the Greek symbol, then use
Ctrl and the plus key to turn Buddy back on.


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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:57:33 -0400
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Yochanan Dreifuss <yochadre@NETVISION.NET.IL> wrote:

> I used to use either the HP connectivity pack or
> Ace-Link (by Ace Technologies, which doesn't exist any more). On both
> programs I now get an error message saying something about a 256 limit
> on the number of files

The limit is not 256 files on the whole computer.  I have used
Filer and ACElink to surf all around the giant hard drive of my
PC without any problem like this.  I would certainly help if
you explained when and where you get this error message.  Do
you get it from the palmtop's Filer while its connected to
ACElink or the CPACK Filer?  Or do you get that report on the
CPACK Filer while looking at the palmtop's drives?  Which
drive are you telling Filer to go to when this happens?  Which
directory or subdirectory?  Or does it happen all the time no
matter where you go?

I suspect there is one directory on your desktop that you are
trying to go to with the palmtop's Filer and there is more
than 256 files in that directory.  If this is the case, then
don't go there. <grin>

This 256 file limit is not a serious error that will cause
data loss, it is just that Filer will only show you the first
256 files of the X number that are there.  You can still use
Filer to copy/move files as long as the ones from the desktop
you want to use are in Filer's list.

> 2) On my old HP 95 I used the heart symbol (ASKII 003) to mark certain
> dates (birthdays) in the Appt book. I transfered these into the 200LX,
> and they print to the screen perfectly. But I am unable to create new
> text with this "letter"

Look in the 100/200LX book and there is a table of all of the
goofy ASCII symbols that you can use and the special key
sequence to get them.  I don't know why the 100/200LX's apps
don't accept the keystroke you used to use for the heart
symbol.  But just because something works in one place does
not mean it has to work someplace else.

> I have an Omnibook 425 which died ... Both the "C" and the "D" drives
> are flash disks ... Placing  these cards into the slot and re-booting
> doesn't work; the machine does not read the card. Do I need specific
> driver? Where can I get it? (These flashcards are alos from Ace)

You did not give us your CONFIG.SYS file.  Are you using
Stacker?  If yes, then you insert those other flash cards,
Stacker is looking for the Stacked Volume on them to make the
A: drive.  You will need to temporarily NOT load Stacker and
then you will probably be able to use those two flash cards
from the OB425.

You can NOT load Stacker by editing the CONFIG.SYS file and
putting the word  REM  in front of the line that loads the
Stacker driver.  Then save the file and reboot with no card in
the slot.  Then after SysMgr is up, turn the machine off,
insert one of the 425 flashcards, power up and then start
Filer.  You should see the files on A: now.


Stan

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Sharon Rose <sharon_rose@IRISHROSE.COM> wrote:

> Are you still using Stacker?

Me?  No.  I used to use a 20MB flash card with Stacker. I
found that I was comfortable with about 32MB of stuff on
there, so I bought a 40MB card and stopped using Stacker.  The
card read/writes are faster without Stacker and I get about
45K of RAM back by not having to load the driver.  And my
flash card is compatable with my Win95 notebooks.


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Larry Hunter <lhunter@RCI.ROGERS.COM> wrote:

> I have a couple of linear flash cards that I would like to use with my
> 200LX. Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the 2 files I need

From what I have heard about using linear flash cards with the
palmtop is that the drivers are relatively huge and operations
on the flash cards are very slow.  It just may not be worth
it.


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Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...

Reinhard Mueller writes:
> Hi Bob
>
> > Peniel - Can you explain reconditioning and how it is done? Or can you
> > point me to a FAQ on recondiitioning? I have used both NiCd and NiMH
> > batteries and finally stopped because I couldn't get a day's life out of
> > a charge. They were RS batteries used with a RS charger.
>
> I am not Peniel, but I will answer your question anyway <g>.
>
> Recondition means discharging the batteries to at least 1.00V
> (for AA-cells) and fully charging them again. As it has been
> stated here before, you cannot discharge the batteries with the
> HPLX to this level, so you can either get yourself a charger
> with discharge functionality or put the batteries into a
> flashlight or something similar and leave it on until they are
> completely empty. The manual of my charger even states that the
> discharge-recharge cycle should be repeated several times for
> "badly treated" rechargebles to restore their original capacity.
>

Actually, if you run the batteries down in the LX until it will no longer
turn on ( i.e. just beeps) the battery level is low enough to recondition the batteries
right in the LX. This is perfectly safe for data as long as you regularly change the
backup battery when it is below 2.98 volts. You also shouldn't go below 1.1
volts per cell with cells in series since you signifigantly increase the chance of shorting
a cell if it goes below 1 volt.

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Sun,  6 Jun 1999 13:05:13 -0400 (EDT)

01h27m16s ago ...
On Sun,  6 Jun 1999, Bob Graham wrote:

> Peniel - Can you explain reconditioning and how it is done? Or can you
> point me to a FAQ on recondiitioning? I have used both NiCd and NiMH
> batteries and finally stopped because I couldn't get a day's life out =
of
> a charge. They were RS batteries used with a RS charger.

Hi Bob-

Reinhard gave an excellent answer.  Only one thing to add.  When
discharging the cells, it's much better to do it individually.  If
they're fully discharged in pairs or groups, the weakest cells will be
"reverse charged" as the stronger cells run down.  Not too good for the
weaker cells.

Mack and Thaddeus are selling NiMH with a capacity of 1350 mAHr, and
DigiKey has Panasonic NiMH (1500 mAHr).  Both are supposed to be
formulated to overcome the self-discharge problem of older NiMH.

-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:46:45 +0100
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              David Cripps <d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK>
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Hi,

I've been reading the thread on NiCd/NiMH cells for a few days and have
just been
playing with the HP, with various options to see the current draw.

Some interesting results:

Single Speed 4MB unit in App Mgr        22mA
Single Speed in DOS                     40mA
Single Speed with Flash in AppMge       40mA
Single Speed with Flash in DOS  40mA

Double Sp 64M unit in App Mgr   28mA
Double Sp 64M unit in DOS               55mA
Double Sp 64M unit & Soft Carousel      55mA
Double Sp 64M with Flash in AppMge      55mA
Double Sp 64M with Flash in DOS         55mA

DS in DOS & Psion Modem (offline)       110mA
DS in DOS & Psion Modem (online)        280mA !
DS in DOS & Accton NIC          85mA
DS in DOS & Accton NIC Telnet ses       95mA

The conclusion seems to be the power managment of the application manager
is great
(50% saving), but is worthless if a Flash card is inserted or you move out
of App
Manager (into DOS or Software Carousel).

The Accton Network card takes only 30-40mA (quite low!), and my Psion Modem
takes
55-230mA (very high, so I'm now looking at another card!!).

So the debate on the life of NiCd or NiMh might need to be re-evaluated now
that
our poor little HPLXs are being made to do much more (by the likes of
excellent
such as Software Carousel, Going Postal, WWWLX, PocketWatch et al) than
they used
to do in the "good old days".

All the best

Dave Cripps

Fluff:
Just finished my first Triathlon (750M swim, 20KM bike, 5KM run) in 1H45
and I am feeling knackered - but still grinning <G>

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 10:41:27 -0700
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For what it's worth (mostly to US people I think), CNN has a daily
news email that's kinda nice to get.  It would be nicer if it were
in a digest-style format though so it could be exploded, but it's not.

> Reinhard,
>
> > I had also been looking for a reasonable "news by email" service
> > in vain. I would be interested in getting world/european/german
> > news by email.
>
> Try www.dwelle.de and register.
>
> Regards
>
> Helmuth
>
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> The Accton Network card takes only 30-40mA (quite low!), and my Psion Modem
> takes 55-230mA (very high, so I'm now looking at another card!!).

Don't forget that the measurment at the batteries is probably double what
the modem is really drawing.  When the modem is drawing 230ma from the
2.5v or so at the batteries, it's being supplied with about 115ma of 5v at
the pcmcia slot. (that's not taking into account the inverter losses and
it's just a ballpark for the voltage of the batteries under load and
likely a bit low)

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:52:40 +0100
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> What is amazing to me is that
> > perfectly rational people here will spend time and effort ... when it come
> s
> > to a 3 year old pair of NiMH people get upset if
> > they do not get 9h15m but only 8h22m of service, or even only 5h10m!
>
> Well said, Avi.  I don't understand the obsession over
> batteries either.  In my life, my palmtop batteries are way
> down on my list of stuff to worry about.  I try to take good
> care of them, but they do not possess me.

If there are simple facts about how to treat your batteries, why
shouldn't they be discussed on the list. There is also an
environmental issue about batteries and so I surely don't feel
obsessed when it comes to getting the longest lifetime out of
them.

Reinhard



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With all this discussion of batteries, I'm curious if anyone has a
rough estimate of the range of `Annual Battery Cost of a 200Lx'.
I recognize that (a) different battery types cost a different amount;
and (b) our usage varies _widely_.

But, I use what I assume is the `most expensive' route, simple batteries
bought at my local Radio Shack without any particular discount and
I'd be surprised if I spent more than $5/year on my 200 batteries,
so I'm just wondering what the range of expense might be.

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>
> The Accton Network card takes only 30-40mA (quite low!), and my Psion Modem
> takes
> 55-230mA (very high, so I'm now looking at another card!!).

What is the rated power cunsumption of the Psion modem? Is it a 33.6k
or above? It looks pretty good, about 110 mA or so at 5 volts. What
voltage does it use? 5 or 12 volts? My 33.6k uses about 130 at 5 volts
and I get good battery life as long as I remove it from the slot
when it is not in use. Is the Psion a cellular modem?

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Steven Lawson writes:
> > The Accton Network card takes only 30-40mA (quite low!), and my Psion Modem
> > takes 55-230mA (very high, so I'm now looking at another card!!).
>
> Don't forget that the measurment at the batteries is probably double what
> the modem is really drawing.  When the modem is drawing 230ma from the
> 2.5v or so at the batteries, it's being supplied with about 115ma of 5v at
> the pcmcia slot. (that's not taking into account the inverter losses and
> it's just a ballpark for the voltage of the batteries under load and
> likely a bit low)

Plus the pcmcia circuit uses about 5 ma when in use. That modem looks really
good if it is a 28.8 or above<g>.

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:47:12 +0000
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Dear Rob,

I am having the same problem getting the application manager to
recognize new icons.  What was your fix?  I didn't see the replies.

Thanks,

John Ofenloch

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This is an excellent site with much info:
      http://thomas-distributing.com/index.htm
Many batteries and chargers. As I remember they
have a conditioning charger with 4 NiMH batteries
for $32.

Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> Hi Bob
>
> > Peniel - Can you explain reconditioning and how it is done? Or can you
> > point me to a FAQ on recondiitioning? I have used both NiCd and NiMH
> > batteries and finally stopped because I couldn't get a day's life out of
> > a charge. They were RS batteries used with a RS charger.
>
> I am not Peniel, but I will answer your question anyway <g>.
>
> Recondition means discharging the batteries to at least 1.00V
> (for AA-cells) and fully charging them again. As it has been
> stated here before, you cannot discharge the batteries with the
> HPLX to this level, so you can either get yourself a charger
> with discharge functionality or put the batteries into a
> flashlight or something similar and leave it on until they are
> completely empty. The manual of my charger even states that the
> discharge-recharge cycle should be repeated several times for
> "badly treated" rechargebles to restore their original capacity.
>
> Reinhard
>
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>
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:32:30 +0100
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Hi John,

> I am having the same problem getting the application manager
to
> recognize new icons.  What was your fix?  I didn't see the replies.

There is an absolutely simple way to set an icon for an program
entry. Just enter the icon filename with its path in the program
field. Press Tab then, the icon will appear and now you can
reenter anything in the program field. No need for the .icn-file
to have the same name as the program and no problems with
maxdos.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:34:12 +0200
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David Ness writes:
> With all this discussion of batteries, I'm curious if anyone has a
> rough estimate of the range of `Annual Battery Cost of a 200Lx'.
> I recognize that (a) different battery types cost a different amount;
> and (b) our usage varies _widely_.
>
> But, I use what I assume is the `most expensive' route, simple batteries
> bought at my local Radio Shack without any particular discount and
> I'd be surprised if I spent more than $5/year on my 200 batteries,
> so I'm just wondering what the range of expense might be.

Averaging about nineteen dollars a year mostly because I change the backup
about every six months and I lumped ABC/LX in too.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:59:19 -0400
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On 6/6/99 at 12:57 PM Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

>Yochanan Dreifuss <yochadre@NETVISION.NET.IL> wrote:
>
>> I used to use either the HP connectivity pack or
>> Ace-Link (by Ace Technologies, which doesn't exist any more). On both
>> programs I now get an error message saying something about a 256 limit
>> on the number of files

ÝSNIP¨

>This 256 file limit is not a serious error that will cause
>data loss, it is just that Filer will only show you the first
>256 files of the X number that are there.  You can still use
>Filer to copy/move files as long as the ones from the desktop
>you want to use are in Filer's list.

ÝSNIP¨

Just FWIW, if I remember correctly there is also a limitation in *DOS* of
255 or 256 files in the ROOT directory (e.g., C:\).  This doesn't apply to
any subdirectories, just root.

Somebody speak up if I'm all wet!

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:07:55 -0500
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NO, er Yes, that is true, there is a limit on the number of files in the root.
Our customers would hit this constantly when trying to copy a bejillion files
to a floppy. As I recall, the limit was different for different size media or
partitions. I think that it is only, say, 128 files on a floppy, and up to 512
on a hard drive... I'm not sure. Anyway, there is a limit, for the root only.
I think that there is a much higher limit (65K?) for subdirectories.
Bryan


Rick Rae wrote:

> On 6/6/99 at 12:57 PM Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> >Yochanan Dreifuss <yochadre@NETVISION.NET.IL> wrote:
> >
> >> I used to use either the HP connectivity pack or
> >> Ace-Link (by Ace Technologies, which doesn't exist any more). On both
> >> programs I now get an error message saying something about a 256 limit
> >> on the number of files
>
> ÝSNIP¨
>
> >This 256 file limit is not a serious error that will cause
> >data loss, it is just that Filer will only show you the first
> >256 files of the X number that are there.  You can still use
> >Filer to copy/move files as long as the ones from the desktop
> >you want to use are in Filer's list.
>
> ÝSNIP¨
>
> Just FWIW, if I remember correctly there is also a limitation in *DOS* of
> 255 or 256 files in the ROOT directory (e.g., C:\).  This doesn't apply to
> any subdirectories, just root.
>
> Somebody speak up if I'm all wet!
>
> Rick
>
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Environment Space

Is there anyway to check the size of the envirnment space under system
manager? Any way to measure the size?

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:26:57 -0700
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On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Making the palmtop emulate an IrDA printer and save the printed stuff
> to a file

Okay, this one caught my attention.  I don't know if this would be
possible, but could the IrDA driver be used to intercept the palmtop's
printing signals and then send them to an IrDA printer?  I know there are
a couple of IrDA printing solutions out there, but they don't always work
properly for me.

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I have been having trouble configuring dospppd on my 200lx with an xj1144. I
seem to be getting a connection but I cannot ping my isp's server. Is there
somewhere I can look for help on the proper configuration of scripts?
Karl Nelson

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>NO, er Yes, that is true, there is a limit on the number of files in the
root.
>Our customers would hit this constantly when trying to copy a bejillion files
>to a floppy. As I recall, the limit was different for different size media or
>partitions. I think that it is only, say, 128 files on a floppy, and up to
512
>on a hard drive... I'm not sure. Anyway, there is a limit, for the root only.
>I think that there is a much higher limit (65K?) for subdirectories.


You are correct in that the number of files/subdirectories in the root are set
by the format of the drive.  The root directory entries are reserved right
after the FAT table and before the first data sector.

Cheers,
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Karl Nelson writes:
> I have been having trouble configuring dospppd on my 200lx with an xj1144. I
> seem to be getting a connection but I cannot ping my isp's server. Is there
> somewhere I can look for help on the proper configuration of scripts?
> Karl Nelson
>

The easiest way is to log in with datacomm and see what is required for login.
Then just put that in the script.

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I just saw part of a small report on wireless networking on CNN, and there was a
guy hooking up an HP200!  I got a quick screenshot of it, I'll e-mail it to anyone
who wants to see it. Anyone know who this guy with the HP200 is?
Bryan

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:04:47 +0200
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>As I do not use a browser on my Hp200lx, I had been looking for
>an internet-service, which will send you any webpage/file by
>email attachement, some while ago, but without success.


Send a mail to the address
listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

WITHOUT a subject (or only a space)

In the body of the mail type:
GET INTERNET BY-EMAIL NETTRAIN F=MAIL

Send this mail. After this, you will receive a mail with the manual
"Accessing The Internet By E-Mail"

It is a comprehensive description of the different possibilities.

Good luck.
-goe-

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Subject:      Re: HP200 on CNN

Bryan Biggers writes:
> I just saw part of a small report on wireless networking on CNN, and there was a
> guy hooking up an HP200!  I got a quick screenshot of it, I'll e-mail it to anyone
> who wants to see it. Anyone know who this guy with the HP200 is?
> Bryan

The 200LX phantom<g>.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:11:22 +0200
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The beginning of the manual (if anybody wants, I can send it off-list,
because the text is too big for the list):

"You can access almost any Internet resource using e-mail.  Maybe you've
heard of FTP, Gopher, Archie, Veronica, Finger, Usenet, Whois, Netfind,
WAIS, and the World-Wide Web but thought they were out of your reach because
you don't have a direct connection.

Not so!  You can use simple e-mail commands to do all of this and much
more on the Internet.  And even if you do have full Internet access,
using e-mail services can save you time and money.  If you can send a
note to an Internet address, you're in the game."

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Subject:      Re: HP200 on CNN
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Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> I just saw part of a small report on wireless networking on CNN, and there was a
> guy hooking up an HP200!  I got a quick screenshot of it, I'll e-mail it to anyone
> who wants to see it. Anyone know who this guy with the HP200 is?
> Bryan
>
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Please send me a copy.

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:18:48 -0500
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Unfortunately, I didn't get a capture of the Phantom's  face, I was too busy messing
with my software trying to get a quick capture. You can almost read the screen though!
Bryan


John Musielewicz wrote:

> Bryan Biggers writes:
> > I just saw part of a small report on wireless networking on CNN, and there was a
> > guy hooking up an HP200!  I got a quick screenshot of it, I'll e-mail it to anyone
> > who wants to see it. Anyone know who this guy with the HP200 is?
> > Bryan
>
> The 200LX phantom<g>.
>

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:30:09 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Subject:      ÝFLUFF¨ Re: HP200 on CNN
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That is an ATI All in Wonder Pro AGP card. You can capture still images off the TV tuner
(and other video inputs) if you want. It does a pretty good job at capturing a single frame.
I had the TV window up really small watching CNN with the sound off when the HP200 caught my
eye. Too bad I didn't get a better shot of it though, ha, I wasn't paying attention. Ask me
off the list if you want more info.
Bryan N9GBJ


david rogers wrote:

> Thanks -- that is an amazingly good capture.  Mind sharing what your
> setup is that enables you to do that?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> David, WA7ZYQ

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:02:47 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Power Consumption of HP200LX
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.1.32.19990605184645.006a2074@popmail.dircon.co.uk> from
              "David Cripps" at Jun 5, 99 06:46:45 pm
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> Some interesting results:
>
> Single Speed 4MB unit in App Mgr        22mA
> Single Speed in DOS                     40mA
> Ý...SNIP...¨

Dave:

Are these tabulated currents at the battery voltage, or at 5 Volts,
or at the AC adaptor voltage?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:02:06 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>

>But, I use what I assume is the `most expensive' route, simple batteries
>bought at my local Radio Shack without any particular discount and
>I'd be surprised if I spent more than $5/year on my 200 batteries,


:-) I usually pay about USD 5 for 4 batteries here in Oslo. Although l found
a type that is sold in a few shops which is much cheaper: 10 for $5! :-)

Almost fluff this, but anyway...

Have a nice day!

Franklin

Libretto 50CT, Nokia 2110, HP 200LX.
SMS/voice: 917 51641.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:44:33 -0400
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              William Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Minor Buddy Question?
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> William Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:
>
> > a Greek letter
> > beta above the 'S' and when I hit Fn+S I get a beta and do not activate
> > SmartCaps.  Does anyone have a work around to turn on SmartCaps?
>
> I doubt that you can change the Buddy Fn-S key to control
> SmartCaps.  I can think of two work-arounds.  Look in the
> 100/200LX manualy to find another key sequence that will give
> you that Greek symbol, usually something like a Alt and three
> digits.  Or temporarily turn off Buddy with Ctrl and the minus
> key, then the Fn-S will gove you the Greek symbol, then use
> Ctrl and the plus key to turn Buddy back on.
>
>
Stan,

I'll give that a try.  The good ol' HP 200LX Manual has a dandy cross
reference.

Best and thanks,

Bill

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:07:01 +0100
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              David Cripps <d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK>
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From:         David Cripps <d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK>
Subject:      GMS Modem (was: Power Consumption of HP200LX)
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>>Double Speed in DOS & Psion Modem (offline) 110mA
>>Double Speed in DOS & Psion Modem (online)  280mA !

>What is the rated power cunsumption of the Psion modem? Is it a 33.6k
>or above? It looks pretty good, about 110 mA or so at 5 volts. What
>voltage does it use? 5 or 12 volts? My 33.6k uses about 130 at 5 volts
>and I get good battery life as long as I remove it from the slot
>when it is not in use. Is the Psion a cellular modem?

The Modem is a Psion Dacom Gold, V34+Fax. I connect regularly at 31.4K over
PSTN, the card is also GSM compatable (and marked ISDN!) and I have
connected via a Nokia 6110 to my ISP at 9.6K.

One question I have is FAX, I can FAX over normal PSTN, but over GSM it
almost always fails! I use QFAX (paid my money but the author has gone
AWOL, so still signed as eval). Anybody else managed to fax over GSM?

Dave


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                                Taoist Saying

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:09:15 +0700
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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I have been receiving the HPLX List messages in a digest.  There are
times I would like to respond to soe of the messages, but I don't know
how to respond to individual messages inside the digest.  Is there an
add-in for Post/LX that can help me out?

Thanks,
Steve Soper

 (Wish us luck during the Indonesian Elections tomorrow.  We
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:42:58 -0400
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Sun,  6 Jun 1999 23:16:31 +0100 (BST)

2 days 04h11m47s ago ...
On Fri,  4 Jun 1999 11:04:44 -0700 (CST), Larry Hunter wrote:

> I have a couple of linear flash cards that I would like to use with my
> 200LX. Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the 2 files I need to
> use it??

http://www.m-sys.com

might have what you want. I have a linear flash that just needs a
25K driver called tffs.com on the palmtop.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:24:28 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I'm sure you'll get a better answer than this, but in my experience
`threading' doesn't work particularly well on a mailing list anyway, so
just responding to the list with a sensible `Subject' would do nearly
as well as a `perfect' response as far as this is concerned.

Other than threading, I don't see any reason to worry about tying
particular references together anyway...

Good luck tomorrow. I find I am startlingly ignorant of the
fact that there are elections. This is either a triumph of my
ability to be oblivious, or another stunning example of how well our
press keeps us informed of these `1ittle details'. After all Indonesia
is only the 5th or 6th largest country in the world (isn't it?)...

Steve Soper wrote:
>
> I have been receiving the HPLX List messages in a digest.  There are
> times I would like to respond to soe of the messages, but I don't know
> how to respond to individual messages inside the digest.  Is there an
> add-in for Post/LX that can help me out?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Soper
>
>  (Wish us luck during the Indonesian Elections tomorrow.  We
> have an evacuation ship waiting if it gets relly bad).
>

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:50:26 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: How do you have  lxnntp download only headers?
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:10:47 -0400, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:
> > I hope this hasn't been answered to death already. I need to find an option
> > for LXNNTP download headers only and then let me select which articles to
> > download. How is this done?
> I have lxnntp and PNR on my LX and I don't think that option is
> available.... Rod, can it be done?

In a word, No.  In a sentence, "No, it hasn't been done, but could be
done by someone, and it's not on my personal priority list, so that
someone would have to be someone else, but that's one of the reasons
why it's open source :-)".

I guess this is one of the reasons why you pay for POST/LX and GP ...

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Loading grid in DraftChoice
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>

John Musielewicz writes:
> Does anyone use draftchoice? I am checking it out and everytime I try to load
> the grid it locks up my computer and I have to do a reboot. Has anyone else had
> this problem?

I used it for a while to draw a floor plan for my new house.  Didn't
have any problems at all with it.  That was version 2.1.


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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:50:13 -0400
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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> I don't know about A: and B: drives but it would be simple to partition a
> flashcard on the desktop into two drives. The LX would assign A: to one
> and the next availible letter to the other, which is usually F

The palmtop sees the flash card as a removable media device
and therefore it cannot have more than one partition on it.
I don't know if this limitation could be overcome with a
driver.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:12:13 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Flash Card Delay after Power On
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM

> The palmtop sees the flash card as a removable media device
> and therefore it cannot have more than one partition on it.
> I don't know if this limitation could be overcome with a
> driver.

Why removeable media differant from fixed? According to the STK the LX
sees a second partition on a flash card as drive B.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:30:24 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> On Sat,  5 Jun 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:
> > Peniel, thank you very much for your information. What is the
> > allocation unit (cluster) size of the 220MB SanDisk?
> Cluster size is 4K
> I hadn't given much thought to changing the cluster size, since I have

You won't be able to change the cluster size smaller; on a FAT16
disk 4k clusters is as small as you can go on disks over 128M in
size.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:17:09 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hoover <thoover@hisword.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
<ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: InfoSelect favorite tips and a question


> On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 04:01:35PM -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:
> > Tom Hoover once talked to me about an InfoSelect mailing list.  Is he
still
> > on this list?
> Yes.  :-)

Hi Tom.  Keeping a low profile these days?  I have moved twice since we last
talked.  Have you or anyone been able to get InfoSelect to do hypertext on
the palmtop? Did the InfoSelect mailing list ever pan out?  Any upcoming
updates to Hisword?

See you around

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:19:19 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Auto-shutoff time?


> The timer works in DOS and SysMgr. If it doesn't work for you,
> try to find out, which DOS program (you used before) could cause
> the problem by taking over the INT08 interrupt.
> I only know of two applications, taking over the INT08:
> Win3.0 and MS-Word 5.0

Ms Works for Dos versions 2 and 3 both cause the palmtop to not turn off
unless the ON button is pressed twice.  And the palmtop doesn't
automatically go to sleep in 5 minutes (but at least you can do it
manually).  I wonder if that has something to do with the above issue at
all.

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:30:07 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones, Jr. <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: cc:LXPOP


> I stand corrected on my original post. After reviewing the first
announcement
> of ccLXPOP.
> It is possibile to run ccLXPOP from your Desktop PC without a Desktop
version
> of cc:Mail.

Yep

> Note: The same external modem that I use on my Desktop is one and the same
for
> the palmtop. So my original modem int string in my pppd.cfg went
unchanged.

I am trying to use the internal modem in my desktop, either with my flash
card on the pcmcia drive, or (preferably) via the serial cable (whether
accessing the internal modem directly, or copying the email files to the
palmtop).  So far is not working for me.
I have a Boca modem.  I wonder if the so called "Windows only" modems cannot
be accessed with a dos packet driver? (I have not seen my modem's manual say
so, I'm just guessing).   I get no dial tone.  But connecting with my EXP
modem inside the palmtop is no problem.

Any hints?

Domingo

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:42:44 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> >Your command looks ok.  I too use the timeout and it works for
> >me; the only difference is I set it timeout in 13 minutes.
> I think I found the problem - the minutes counter counts only the time
> while the palmtop is turned on. I thought that if I set it to 30
> minutes for example, then turned the palmtop off for an hour, that it
> would ask for the password when it tried to access the F: drive again.
> It won't.
> So now I've set it to three minutes, and I guess I'll live with that.

That makes sense, SecDev was written for desktops that would
need to reboot if powered off.  The HPLX is Not the expected
platform it was written for.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:42:48 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> With all this discussion of batteries, I'm curious if anyone has a
> rough estimate of the range of `Annual Battery Cost of a 200Lx'.
> I recognize that (a) different battery types cost a different amount;
> and (b) our usage varies _widely_.

I use Everyready Lithiums.  I get about 8 weeks from a pair so
call that 2 months or six sets a year; at about $5USD a pair I'm
paying about $30/year for the priviledge of not worrying about
recharge levels and/or frequent battery changes.

Even after the old batteries come out of the LX they are used in
a small penlight flashlight.  Because the Lithiums hold a pretty
high voltage until almost dead they keep the flashlight pretty
bright even if they don't last too long.

cheers... Russ    (single speed 4M + 10M flash card)

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:42:52 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I think that there is a much higher limit (65K?) for subdirectories.

There is NO file number limit in subdirectories but Dos gets
real slow when the number goes above a couple hundred.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:01:24 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:09:15 +0700, Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTA=
RA.NET.ID> wrote:

> how to respond to individual messages inside the digest.  Is there an
> add-in for Post/LX that can help me out?

Yes there is an add-on but it cost more $$$.... Goin' Postal has this
feature built into it and it is quite spiffy :)

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=3DPortable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     =
|
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:08:26 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      How does System Manager and Software Carousel affect the
              environment?

For the past few days I have had a problem with the environment size
getting stuck on 256 bytes in my first Software Carousel session, the
one I run System Manager in. I found that when System Manager running
in the session the I could only use 258 bytes even though I had it set
for 512. To work around it I found that if I set enough variables in
the batch file starting the session to drive it over 258 bytes and then
load System Manager would fix it so I could use the full 512 bytes. Has
anyone had this happen to them? Does anyone have a clue why it would
get stuck like that? Thanks

John

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:01:31 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Well.... since I can't seem to get PGP to work in a 'simple' fashion with
POST/LX let me ask another couple questions.

When you add an external item, such as Telnet/LX or FTP/LX, is there a =
way
to set it up so it can choose between different telephone numbers (like =
when
you press <shift><F5> and pick a number?

Has anyone done any modifications to TELNET/LX that allow it to properly
highlight items, like when you are using PINE or Lynx and has anyone done
anything to it to make it scroll properly when using ircII or other =
similar
apps that required the screen to scroll? I know that it is a minimalistic
Telnet client, that isn't really supported, but I thought that someone =
might
have done some modifications to it...... it never hurts to ask <g>.

Jeff W4JEF

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|
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:08:28 -0400
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              Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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From:         Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Trouble Downloading ToDo.exm
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I've been reading the good reviews for ToDo.exm and went to the address
below to download it.

I found that I could read very little on the screen, but could find
2D-To Do Board on LX.  On the next screen I was able to find and
download ToDo.LZH.

I have not seen reference to .lzh before and don't know how to convert
it to ToDo.exm.  Is there an English version of this web site?

Looking forward to your replies,

L. Brooks

>
> ToDo Board 2.1 (TODO21.LZH) can be found at:
> http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:28:43 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Flash Card Delay after Power On
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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> The only reason I'm not running Stacker (or Jam, for that matter) on a
> flash card is because it seems impossible to read the compressed =
drive's
> data from a Windows machine's card reader.  If somebody could solve =
that
> problem....

Back when I ran Stacker, I kept stacker.exe (the Stacker Anywhere
program) on the uncompressed portion of the card.  When I wanted to
access it on the Windows desktop, I'd open a DOS window, run
stacker.exe, and then it'd work (in that DOS window only, though.)

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
skateboard on the Information Superhighway! --

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:33:51 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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From:         Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Trouble Downloading ToDo.exm
Comments: To: Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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At 11:08 PM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>I have not seen reference to .lzh before and don't know how to convert
>it to ToDo.exm.  Is there an English version of this web site?
>
>Looking forward to your replies,
>
>L. Brooks
>
Loran,
You need to search the net and get the file compression program called
lha.exe  This program will compress and decompress *.LZH files.
If you can't find it; I'll send to you.

Owen

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:46:22 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Early in April, several posts came on regarding the following:

--------------------

  120 mA
  10 MB/s fast scsi-2
  auto-termination
  card & socket services
  dos aspi drivers, cdrom drivers

  It is carried by Corporate Systems Center (www.corpsys.com,
  408-330-5538), and is called the "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II"
  card.

--------------------

Anyone resolved anything? Tried it out? Is CSC indeed selling to indivuduals
or only to dealers?

TIA for any information.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:42:12 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      BellSouth.Net snooty toward non-Windows

Not really a 200LX issue but of interest to Linux and OS/2 users. I think
BellSouth needs a nice boycott...

______begin forwarded message______


tmueller@bluegrass.net writes:
> I received an article from Warpcast about BellSouth.net refusing to install
> their new ADSL high-speed Internet service on anything but Windows and Mac; this
> should be of interest to DOS users.  Further, I browsed http://www.bellsouth.net
> and saw that they require Netscape or Internet Explorer to register for their
> service without using their software.  They use Javascript in places.  In some
> cases where the target URL shows, one can edit out the "javascript:display(" and
> the closing parenthesis, but I didn't really want to switch from Bluegrass Net.
> Maybe if BellSouth.net sees how I might edit out the "javascript", they will
> bury the link deeper to plug that loophole?  Anyway, here is the Warpcast
> article:
>
> ****************************** WarpCast ******************************
> Source: Hugh McCreery (maxvamp@hypermall.net)
> Moderator: Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@dtcweb.com)
> **********************************************************************
>
> CNET news has posted an article covering the refusal by Bell
> South to install xDSL service on anything but Windows and
> Mac Desktops.
>
> "BellSouth is facing a protest campaign from a group of
> online Linux users who say the company won't let them sign
> up for its new high-speed Internet access service"
>
>  The story covers Linux users' problems, but they could
> easily be problems that face the OS/2 community.
>
> http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,37313,00.html?owv
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or for more information on
> WarpCast, visit: http://www.warpcast.com/
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>
>
> Thomas Mueller
> tmueller@bluegrass.net
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:16:15 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> When you add an external item, such as Telnet/LX or FTP/LX, is there a way
> to set it up so it can choose between different telephone numbers (like when
> you press <shift><F5> and pick a number?

Why don't you use Shift-F5 for that when you want to add it as an
external to POST/LX anyway?

A different solution would be to use the q= feature in a WWW/LX script
(as described just a few days ago on this list)

> Has anyone done any modifications to TELNET/LX that allow it to properly
> highlight items

I asked a few times what does not work but nobody ever told me what
does not work so I had no chance to improve it. It works for me.

So again: If you tell me what you need, I will gladly improve
telnet/lx.

Andreas

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:16:14 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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David Sargeant wrote:
> possible, but could the IrDA driver be used to intercept the palmtop's
> printing signals and then send them to an IrDA printer?

Not as it is now, but it could be extended to do that (however, it
would have to be turned into a TSR). But there is a program provided by
HP that already does that.

Andreas

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:26:59 -0700
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Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> Sat,  5 Jun 1999 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 11h59m31s ago ...
> On Fri,  4 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:
>
> <big snip>...
>
> > My real question to everyone is this: So you buy a pair for $10-15
> > and you use  them for a year, two years. Maybe more. What is amazing
> > to me is that  perfectly rational people here will spend time and
> > effort to make sure their  auto brakes are in top condition, even
> > replace bake pads earlier than  necessary, but when it comes to a 3
> > year old pair of NiMH people get upset if  they do not get 9h15m but
> > only 8h22m of service, or even only 5h10m!
>
> Avi-
>
> I agree in principle - would agree 100% if it took 2 years or more for
> a significant decrease in capacity in the batteries I've used.
> Unfortunately, it has been more like 3 months.  There are many
> electrode alloys used in NiMH cells, and probably some tolerate partial
> charge/discharge cycles better than others.  Just got some Panasonic
> 1500 mAHr NiMH from DigiKey, so will see how they do.
>
> When the usable time for the cells drops to whatever you use in one
> day, it's time to replace or recondition.  If the reconditioning works
> - why not?
>
> A charge control program is a must for preserving the health of the
> rechargeables in the palmtop.  (ABC/LX - Charge-It! or whatever).
>
> -Peniel
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>
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:19:48 -0700
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Not as it is now, but it could be extended to do that (however, it
> would have to be turned into a TSR). But there is a program provided
> by HP that already does that.

Yes, but often it doesn't seem to work for me.  And it is only for System
Manager, isn't it?  I have never been able to get things to print out of
WP51 to an IrDA printer.  Of course, when you get into printing out of DOS
applications, it would probably take application-specific drivers and a
general solution might not be possible.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:51:58 +0100
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David Sargeant wrote:
> > Not as it is now, but it could be extended to do that (however, it
> > would have to be turned into a TSR). But there is a program provided
> > by HP that already does that.
>
> Yes, but often it doesn't seem to work for me.

Why do you think my utility would work? :-)

> And it is only for System
> Manager, isn't it?

It is for all programs that use interrupt 15 for printing. I thing some
DOS programs do that as well. If not, there is no chance to intercept
printing, unless...

> it would probably take application-specific drivers

That's it, unfortunately. Remember that DOS is not an operating system,
but a hardware architecture ;-)

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:36:26 +0200
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              jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES
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From:         Jesus Consuegra <jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES>
Subject:      Re: Using a Linear Flash Card
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      Sorry to disagree. I use a 4Mb linear flash on my HP200LX-4meg, as a
      backup device. If properly formatted, access time for backup purposes is
      reasonable. And data never fades out, as did my previous SRAM card (that
      run out of internal batteries..).
      Regards from Spain.
      Jesus.



Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> con fecha 06/06/99 18.57.37


Por favor, responda a HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Por favor,
      responda a stanleyd@CARROLL.COM

        De               Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
       ---------+  ---------------------------------------------------------+
        A
       ---------+  ---------------------------------------------------------+
        Copias a
       ---------+  ---------------------------------------------------------+
        CCI              Jesus Consuegra Manzanares/CATALUNYA/RETEVISION
       ---------+  ---------------------------------------------------------+
        Fecha            06/06/99 18.57
       ---------+  ---------------------------------------------------------+
        Tema             Using a Linear Flash Card
       ---------+  ---------------------------------------------------------+







Larry Hunter <lhunter@RCI.ROGERS.COM> wrote:

> I have a couple of linear flash cards that I would like to use with my
> 200LX. Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the 2 files I need

From what I have heard about using linear flash cards with the
palmtop is that the drivers are relatively huge and operations
on the flash cards are very slow.  It just may not be worth
it.


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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:49:28 +0200
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Subject:      Re: A couple more WWW/LX Questions.....
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Jeff,

> When you add an external item, such as Telnet/LX or FTP/LX, is there a
> way
> to set it up so it can choose between different telephone numbers (like
> when
> you press <shift><F5> and pick a number?

Create, if not there a section ÝWWW¨ within post.cfg:

  ÝWWW¨
  &CompuServe=3DCIS
  Compuserve Germany local=3DCIS_UUN
  &T-Online=3DT-Online
  COM1=3DPort=3D1 Baud=3D19200 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M0
  COM2=3DPort=3D2 Baud=3D57600 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M0
  &Nokia GSM Card=3DPort=3D2 Baud=3D9600 ModemInit=3DAT&Fs34=3D2S35=3D6
  CIS &D2=3DDial=3DATD22111
  CIS M=FCnchen=3DDial=3DATDT08966559393
  CIS &M=FCnchen Amt 0,=3DDial=3DATDT0,08966559393
  CIS D1=3DDial=3DATD22252
  CIS &Wien=3DDial=3DATDT015056178
  T-Online=3DDial=3DATDT0191011
  T-Online Amt 0,=3DDial=3DATDT0,0191011
  T-Online vom Ausland=3DDial=3DATDT004989191011
  T-Online vom Ausland Amt 0,=3DDial=3DATDT0,004989191011

If you look into the help file and search for "Dial" you will find some
additional hints.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:55:36 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      SLEEPON & WORKS
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> Ms Works for Dos versions 2 and 3 both cause the palmtop to not turn =
off
> unless the ON button is pressed twice.  And the palmtop doesn't
> automatically go to sleep in 5 minutes

Looks like Works is another candidate for the SLEEPON TSR.
Create the batch file WORK.BAT and put into it:

sleepon
works
sleepon/r

Then run WORK.BAT and find out, if the Off key and timeout
is working now. You will find SLEEPON on SUPER.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:58:22 +0100
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h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> ÝWWW¨
...
> COM1=Port=1 Baud=19200 ModemInit=AT&FX3M0
...

Just to prevent confusion: this WILL work with the NEXT release of
POST/LX. The current version does not support multiple settings on one
line.

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:30:09 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Does this mean you get AA batteries for 2.5 cents each?
(200 batteries for $5) ;¬)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...


>With all this discussion of batteries, I'm curious if anyone has a
>rough estimate of the range of `Annual Battery Cost of a 200Lx'.
>I recognize that (a) different battery types cost a different amount;
>and (b) our usage varies _widely_.
>
>But, I use what I assume is the `most expensive' route, simple batteries
>bought at my local Radio Shack without any particular discount and
>I'd be surprised if I spent more than $5/year on my 200 batteries,
>so I'm just wondering what the range of expense might be.
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 4 Jun 1999 06:22:20 -0700, garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH (Andreas Garzotto) wrote:

> > 2. How can I get Post/Lx to run on my desktop pc.
>
> Same as on the palmtop except that you also need Palrun or any of the
> other palmtop-graphics emulators.

I can run Post/lx with Palrun with no problem, but when I try to
connect the modem flickers the lights  a bit then nothing happens..

> Check the configuration (especially the Port= setting).
>
> Andreas

It says Port=1 and the modem is connected to com1. I will try to send
the modem another initstring to see if I can get it to work..

--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: BellSouth.Net snooty toward non-Windows
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 12:42:12AM +0200, John Musielewicz wrote:
> Not really a 200LX issue but of interest to Linux and OS/2 users. I think
> BellSouth needs a nice boycott...


for what it's worth, you can't get bell atlantic to install DSL in
the new york city area (what used to be nynex's turf) if you aren't
running windows.  They want your MAC address at time of installation
and will only grab it from a windows machines.  They told me they
don't even support macintoshes yet (but may soon).

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Ho Ho! Missed that reading...

OTOH it seems to me that they were about $0.10 apiece when I bought
them in Hong Kong a long while ago. Perhaps I mis-remember...

Ken Hansen wrote:
>
> Does this mean you get AA batteries for 2.5 cents each?
> (200 batteries for $5) ;¬)
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>
...
> >I'd be surprised if I spent more than $5/year on my 200 batteries,
...

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:37:33 GMT
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Hi friends,

> A nice solution would be an automatic email service of SUPER:
> I send an email to a special super address and the body of the
> email contains a zip file name. In return I get the file send
> as attachment to my address.
>
> That would make me more independent from HV and downloads could
> take place at email download speed.

I'm also missing this feature!! That would be _such_ useful!

Mitch could set up a mailing list containing all interested people,
who want to receive his super.gdb file. Everytime an update is made on
super, he could send out his new super.gdb.
If one of us looks for a special program, he could so a search simply
in the super.gdb file, send an email to the email service server and
receive the requested software a few minutes later as email.

No dependance on any browser program to search for software and
download it, no long, long times just waiting for downloading a program
(with HV, the downloading of a 100kB file somtimes takes 10 minutes or
so - ofter I get a timeout error while waiting!!)...

Mitch, do you have some time left??? ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:48:05 -0700
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              SCOTT WORMSER <scotty2u@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: wireless palm

anybody hear about the wireless palm nation wide service for $9.95/month?

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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:53:06 -0400
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Subject:      Re: How do you have  lxnntp download only headers?

Damn' that's too bad. I subscribe to some groups witch high spam content and
lots of irrelevant messages. Unfortunately, there are no good substitutes. I
have used Nettamer up to this point to first download headers. I then select
all the messages that I may find interesting and then download the message
bodies. On a space limited machine like the LX I think that adding that
feature to lxnntp would be great. I've even seen pop clients support a
similar feature but I'm not sure how it's implemented in either. I know that
the POP 'list' command will give you a list of message numbers and sizes but
I don't know how they get just headers. I hope Rod has the time to add this
:-)...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Johns
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: 6/4/99 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ How do you have  lxnntp download only headers?

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:10:47 -0400, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:

> I hope this hasn't been answered to death already. I need to find an
option
> for LXNNTP download headers only and then let me select which articles
to
> download. How is this done?

I have lxnntp and PNR on my LX and I don't think that option is
available.... Rod, can it be done?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:48:05 -0700, SCOTT WORMSER <scotty2u@JUNO.COM> =
wrote:

> anybody hear about the wireless palm nation wide service for $9.95/month=
?

Yup, I have heard of it but read the fine print.... it's not really a =
good
deal.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:03:58 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: S.U.P.E.R. access with HV?
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To:  <199906071337.NAA21477@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>; from Daniel
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> Mitch could set up a mailing list containing all interested people,
> who want to receive his super.gdb file. Everytime an update is made on
> super, he could send out his new super.gdb.

The main problem here is that I don't update the online SUPER GDB each time I
make a SUPER update. I usually only do it every few weeks. My real world
schedule makes it very difficult to make SUPER updates at time and the less I
have to do for each update, the better chance that they will get made.

> If one of us looks for a special program, he could so a search simply
> in the super.gdb file, send an email to the email service server and
> receive the requested software a few minutes later as email.

Believe it or not, I had this type of service set up on my server a couple of
years ago and hardly anyone used it. An FTPMAIL server is not only a security
risk, but it puts a big demand on an already stressed slow connection. Finally,
most of the palmtop.net files are served from a machine hosted by Thaddeus
Computing due to my bandwidth limitations. I only have ftp and telnet access to
their machine and no permissions to do sysadmin work. I would be happy to set
up a mail alias that would forward to a ftpmail daemon on their machine, but
they would have to agree to doing such a thing.

> Mitch, do you have some time left??? ;-)

As you see, it's not just the time, it's the resources and bandwidth to pull it
off. Most people find it hard to believe that palmtop.net is a hand-built P133
sitting in my basement office and greeting the world through a 56K dialup for
the last 3 years. It has worked hard this year:

 10:00am  up 128 days, 13:03,  2 users,  load average: 0.63, 0.24, 0.14

Try going 4 months without rebooting a Windows-based server. :)
--
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:12:11 -0400
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I don't have experience with the large flash cards, but I do have plenty
of experience with Stacker on both the 100LX and 200LX.  On a single-speed
machine, the performance penalty is minimal (at least to my eye -- I do
keep all the built-in applications' data on the C: drive, though).  I don't
notice the memory penalty at all (41K), but then, I don't have any killer
applications that require more than 500K of DOS RAM.  All in all, I have
nothing but good things to say about Stacker on the palmtop.

As for David Sargeant, who needs a way to read data from a Windows box's
card reader, have you tried the "Stacker Anywhere" stuff (from Ver 3.0 on,
I think).  Stac provides a .exe program that provides a command shell that
allows one to read a Stacked drive without installing a driver.  The
drawback is that the shell prints a nag sentence after every command execution.
My flash cards are configured to put an autoexec.bat, config.sys, stacker.com,
stacker.exe (the "Stacker Anywhere" program), and check.exe (Stacker drive
verification program)  on the unStacked area of
the flash card.  Autoexec.bat is not strictly necessary, since it will
be ignored once stacker.com is loaded, but I keep a copy here in case
my stacked drive blows up (hasn't happened yet).
On boot, the LX goes to the config.sys (installing stacker.com) and then
to the autoexec.bat on the Stacked part of the drive (cic100 is Rem'd out,
since I'm not using a modem if I'm using a Stacked flash card).

I've successfully used stacker.exe to read cards over LapLink.

If you want any more information, drop me a line...

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<Mitch could set up a mailing list containing all interested people,
who want to receive his super.gdb file. Everytime an update is made on
super, he could send out his new super.gdb.
If one of us looks for a special program, he could so a search simply
in the super.gdb file, send an email to the email service server and
receive the requested software a few minutes later as email.>

You can do that with the service I mentioned yesterday. Send e-mail to the
address below.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:19:46 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I wouldn't jump so quickly. I've been involved in some of the
`content provider' discussions, and there are some _very_ attractive
aspects of the Palm Wireless service for a large number of clients
not currently well served by existing palmtop and wireless
cellular capabilities.

I don't have any doubt that it may not be a good deal for you, or
for most regular internet users, but I'd be a little careful about a
blanket statement, as others who have _very different_ needs than yours
may find it quite useful.

The service has a long evolution ahead of it, _if_ it succeeds well
enough to survive. It remains to be seen, of course, whether it will
succeed, but remember there _were_ people who said a pocket machine
without a keyboard was pointless, and now several million Palms and
Rexes later that looks like a somewhat hasty judgement.

Suffice it to say:
   (1) The _current_ Palm Wireless service is quite limited;
   (2) It _does not_ now provide `generalized Internet access';
   (3) The current service is quite expensive (at least to those
       of us used to moving around lots of information very cheaply
       on the net);
   (4) It is much more `seamless' than typical internet access (or I
       should really say `should be much more seamless').

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:48:05 -0700, SCOTT WORMSER <scotty2u@JUNO.COM> wrote:
>
> > anybody hear about the wireless palm nation wide service for $9.95/month?
>
> Yup, I have heard of it but read the fine print.... it's not really a good
> deal.
>
> Jeff
>

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:16:15 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> Why don't you use Shift-F5 for that when you want to add it as an
> external to POST/LX anyway?

Hmmm.... I can toggle between numbers with <shift><F5>... so I could
acutally add the Telnet & FTP in there also?

> So again: If you tell me what you need, I will gladly improve
> telnet/lx.

When using Lynx via Telnet/LX, the links are not highlighted and the same
when you are using Pine. The arrow keys work fine in both applications.
Also, I use ircII a lot, and when using ircII, the text does not scroll =
off
the top of the screen, rather it accumulates until it reaches the bottom =
of
the screen then each line on the bottom is replaced with the next incoming
line instead of scrolling up the screen. It can make chatting in a =
crowded
chat room quite a challenging experience <g>.

Jeff

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               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
               =3D=3D           Birmingham, Alabama USA           =3D=3D
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:19:46 -0400, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> I wouldn't jump so quickly. I've been involved in some of the
> `content provider' discussions, and there are some _very_ attractive
> aspects of the Palm Wireless service for a large number of clients
> not currently well served by existing palmtop and wireless
> cellular capabilities.

The only info I have is what I have read on the newsgroups and it seemed
very expensive, as David has mentioned. I remember back when I had Newton
Mail.... I hope the Palm networks fares better <g>.

Jeff

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               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
               =3D=3D           Birmingham, Alabama USA           =3D=3D
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Curtis Brown wrote:
> am also assuming that you have knowledge of how DHCP works. My limited
> knowledge of DHCP comes from RFC2131.

This is also where I have my knowledge from :-)

> Got offer, sending DHCP request packet.
> Waiting for acknowledge...
> Resending DHCP packet...
> Resending DHCP packet...

Seems the server is not answering. It sends the initial offer, but
never answers the request DHCP.EXE sends to the server.

> Looking at my packet sniffer, this is the communication I'm seeing.

> It seems that for each request I make, I get an ARP reply.

This is odd! I would understand if it were an ARP request...

> Does this seem right at all?

Not really. I would not expect an ARP reply, but a DHCP reply. Frankly,
I have no idea why that could be. Anybody else here on the list has any
ideas?

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:07:50 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 6 Jun 1999 08:05:50 -0700, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM (Stanley Dobrowski) wrote:

> Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:
>
> > What do you mean? I run Post/lx with Maxdos from within Sysmgr. I run
> > the Post/lx for a "clean" sysmgr..
>
> Have you tried to run WWW/LX Plus after quiting SysMgr just to
> see if it will work for you?  Use &More Menu Application
> Terminate all to quite SysMgr.  Then at the DOS prompt, use
> the MEM command to tell you how much free RAM you have.  How
> much does it report?  Then try to tun POST or WWW & POST.
> They should run fine.

Yes I have. If I start with just the dos I have "Largest exe=503968".
When I run Post I get "Free=308 and disk=7140" in the About screen. If
I go into my mailbox(or any folder which have more than 0 messages) and
press the Help/About key I get "Palmemfail" and the program exits..

If I run a Post with Maxdos I get "Largest=548352" and "Free
memory=352/6686" and Post chrashes as mention above..I run Post/lx from
the a:card from the dir a:\progs\www\

I have now fewer chrashes after I deleted one mailbox. However I get
the chrash eiter when I push Help/About or try to move messages from
one folder to another..But not always. I can start a "fresh" session
then I can move messages, but if I have used Post for a while I
sometimes get the fail when moving messages..Can not establish any
pattern other than that..

> I don't use MaxDOS, so I cannot comment on how much memory it
> will give you WWW/LX Plus.  But perhaps you can try another
> setup for MaxDOS that will just run the MEM command so you can
> see for sure.
>

Look above..it gives me 548352..

> What kinds of TSR's and drivers are you loading in your
> CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files?  Perhaps you have some
> unneded stuff in there?  Also, you don't need a STACKS command
> in CONFIG.SYS.
>
> Stan

Config.sys:
Buffers=60
Files=60
Lastdrive=F
Device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys
Device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack2

Autoexec.bat
Echo....
Path...

A:\usr\moreexm.com
a:\usr\exkey.com a:\usr\exkey\exkey.ini
a:\usr\maxdos -l -wa:\
a:\usr\buddy.com

I get this when I run mem /c |more:
Msdos=48.1K
Jam=31.8K
Command=2.7
Moreexm=4.6
Exkey=2.0
Buddy=46.1K

I have tried to remove moreexm, buddy exkey and the jamdriver , but
with no luck..

The Palmemfail is now not a big problem, but it is bugging me why it
happens when I should have enough ram.

I have a 1 mb Hp200. I have also tried this on my 2 mb Hp 700 and gets
the same failure..

Thanks for all the help

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Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
Mailer:Hp200Lx Palmtop using Post/LX

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Jeff,

> When you add an external item, such as Telnet/LX or FTP/LX, is there a
> way
> to set it up so it can choose between different telephone numbers (like
> when
> you press <shift><F5> and pick a number?

Create, if not there a section ÝWWW¨ within post.cfg:

  ÝWWW¨
  &CompuServe=CIS
  Compuserve Germany local=CIS_UUN
  &T-Online=T-Online
  COM1=Port=1 Baud=19200 ModemInit=AT&FX3M0
  COM2=Port=2 Baud=57600 ModemInit=AT&FX3M0
  &Nokia GSM Card=Port=2 Baud=9600 ModemInit=AT&Fs34=2S35=6
  CIS &D2=Dial=ATD22111
  CIS M|nchen=Dial=ATDT08966559393
  CIS &M|nchen Amt 0,=Dial=ATDT0,08966559393
  CIS D1=Dial=ATD22252
  CIS &Wien=Dial=ATDT015056178
  T-Online=Dial=ATDT0191011
  T-Online Amt 0,=Dial=ATDT0,0191011
  T-Online vom Ausland=Dial=ATDT004989191011
  T-Online vom Ausland Amt 0,=Dial=ATDT0,004989191011

If you look in the help file and search for "Dial" you will find
additional hints.

Regards

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How large is Software Carousel and the files associated with it? Is it
feasible to run it on a 8MB machine?

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:10:37 +0100
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Hmmm.... I can toggle between numbers with <shift><F5>...

Yes.

> so I could
> acutally add the Telnet & FTP in there also?

No. Shift-F5 lets you modify the WWW/LX settings. But in the
ÝExternals¨ menu, you can place ftp or other external commands. Or you
can press Ctrl-Z, which will drop you to the DOS prompt, where you can
enter commands such as ftp and return to POST/LX using "exit".

> When using Lynx via Telnet/LX, the links are not highlighted

What kind of highlight does Lynx use (boldface, inverted, something
else)? Do you just not see the highlights or is there some "garbage" on
the screen at the spot where the highlight should be?

> Also, I use ircII a lot, and when using ircII, the text does not scroll off
> the top of the screen, rather it accumulates until it reaches the bottom of
> the screen then each line on the bottom is replaced with the next incoming
> line instead of scrolling up the screen.

I guess this has to do with the terminal settings on the UNIX account
you log into. I don't think the telnet client can do something about
that. Does it work with some other telnet client? If yes, do you use
the same terminal emulation with it?

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Thanks - That makes sense and I'll start working on them today. I have a
laptop computer with a  Lithium-Ion battery. Originally it would last 2
hours on a charge. Now it only lasts a half hour. Can it be
reconditioned the same way?

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

Reinhard Mueller wrote:
>
> Hi Bob
>
> > Peniel - Can you explain reconditioning and how it is done? Or can you
> > point me to a FAQ on recondiitioning? I have used both NiCd and NiMH
> > batteries and finally stopped because I couldn't get a day's life out of
> > a charge. They were RS batteries used with a RS charger.
>
> I am not Peniel, but I will answer your question anyway <g>.
>
> Recondition means discharging the batteries to at least 1.00V
> (for AA-cells) and fully charging them again. As it has been
> stated here before, you cannot discharge the batteries with the
> HPLX to this level, so you can either get yourself a charger
> with discharge functionality or put the batteries into a
> flashlight or something similar and leave it on until they are
> completely empty. The manual of my charger even states that the
> discharge-recharge cycle should be repeated several times for
> "badly treated" rechargebles to restore their original capacity.
>
> Reinhard
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.07beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:18:35 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199906071610.SAA520576@mail.iprolink.ch> from "Andreas Garzotto"
              at Jun 7, 99 06:10:37 pm
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> What kind of highlight does Lynx use (boldface, inverted, something
> else)? Do you just not see the highlights or is there some "garbage" on
> the screen at the spot where the highlight should be?
>
> > Also, I use ircII a lot, and when using ircII, the text does not scroll off
> > the top of the screen, rather it accumulates until it reaches the bottom of
> > the screen then each line on the bottom is replaced with the next incoming
> > line instead of scrolling up the screen.
>
> I guess this has to do with the terminal settings on the UNIX account
> you log into. I don't think the telnet client can do something about
> that. Does it work with some other telnet client? If yes, do you use
> the same terminal emulation with it?

I have been following this discussion, and I think this is the issue.
Either Jeff's shell account is set for a different-than-expected-by-
LXTELNET, or LXTELNET isn't implementing some of the VT100 commands.

Jeff: you can check your terminal settings by doing the following UNIX
command at the prompt (this assumes your using the Bourne shell):

  echo $TERM

you should get something like "VT100" as an answer.  If not, I can work
with you on setting it differently.  We'll have to find out exactly what
terminal LXTELNET is programmed to emulate.

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:31:05 -0500
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:10:37 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> No. Shift-F5 lets you modify the WWW/LX settings. But in the
> ÝExternals¨ menu, you can place ftp or other external commands. Or you
> can press Ctrl-Z, which will drop you to the DOS prompt, where you can
> enter commands such as ftp and return to POST/LX using "exit".

Okay.... I'll give that a 'whirl' and report my progress <g>.

> What kind of highlight does Lynx use (boldface, inverted, something
> else)? Do you just not see the highlights or is there some "garbage" on
> the screen at the spot where the highlight should be?

Lynx uses inverted highlights. There is no garbage, but if you didn't =
know
where to click, you wouldn't see it because it's not inverted. The thing =
is
in pine, such as when you are swapping between mail folders.

> I guess this has to do with the terminal settings on the UNIX account
> you log into. I don't think the telnet client can do something about
> that. Does it work with some other telnet client? If yes, do you use
> the same terminal emulation with it?

It does work with software such as BananaComm and DataComm. It also works
with 'true' telnet clients such as MiniTelnet (MT) and Rod Whitby's
LXTELNET. All of these are set for for VT-100 terminal emulation. Telnet/L=
X
seems to do fine on the 'shell' with most of the apps except irc and I =
was
doing something else last night and it wouldn't scroll properly.... but I
don't remember what it was <g>. When I discover it again, I'll post it.

Jeff


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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:18:35 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

>   echo $TERM

dec-VT100 <g>

Jeff


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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:31:05 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@scott.net> wrote:

> Okay.... I'll give that a 'whirl' and report my progress <g>.

Works like a charm <g>.... I'll just create a small batch file to change =
to
the proper directory and start either Telnet or FTP. Thanks!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:44:13 -0500
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I've had a lot of requests for the picture, so I have put it up on my
web site, which is what I should have done in the first place. It is
at...
http://www.globaldialog.com/~biggers/html/private.html
BTW, I now think that I was watching CNBC, not CNN, too many cable
channels!
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:46:16 -0400
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Mon,  7 Jun 1999 12:36:23 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Andreas-

26m10s ago ...
On Mon,  7 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > When using Lynx via Telnet/LX, the links are not highlighted
>
> What kind of highlight does Lynx use (boldface, inverted, something
> else)? Do you just not see the highlights or is there some "garbage" on
> the screen at the spot where the highlight should be?

I also have the same problem.  Pine uses inverted characters for the
highlight.  With pine, there is simply no highlight using Telnet/LX.
Using COMMO to dial in (VT100 emulation) works as expected.  With
Telnet/LX, Lynx displays some garbage characters, and the lines are
printed all over the screen with random tabs and spacing.  Actually, I
only telnet into this account when the dial-in access is down...

-Peniel
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On the local TV news the other day I saw a segment about some doctor that
had created software for the Pilot that was designed to help smokers =
'kick
the habit'. It kept track of how many cigarettes you smoked during a two =
or
three day period and then aided by letting you know 'when' you could have =
a
cigarette, slowly stepping you down in the quanity over a given period of
time. Does anyone know of any DOS based software like this that will run =
on
the LX? I know Mack is getting tired of breathing my second hand smoke =
when
he rides patrol with me <g>.

Jeff


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              99 11:36:12 am
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> >   echo $TERM
> dec-VT100 <g>

Jeff:

Well, then I conclude that LX/TELNET doesn't implement VT-100 emulation.
I don't know whether or not it *claims* to emulate VT-100 or not.

-Chris


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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:46:16 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> Lynx displays some garbage characters, and the lines are
> printed all over the screen with random tabs and spacing.

Hmmm.... I haven't experienced the 'garbage' or weird spacing, but
defiantely no highlights and weird scrolling on some apps.

Jeff

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:50:03 -0700, Fryday wrote:

>When I press the key to run Zoom (with MoreExm), I get a Bip-Bip-Blip sound.
>That's never happened before. What's going on?

Post your MOREEXM.INI

One thing to look at first is that there needs to be an ENTER after
the last entry in MOREEXM.INI....

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:09:43 -0500
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Jeff:

I just opened up the doc file for TELNET/LX, and it says there is a F9
toggle for changing the emulation between VT-100 and plain DUMB terminal.
I'm guessing you must have it in th DUMB mode, instead of VT-100 mode.
I hope this is the problem.

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:10:28 -0500
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:01:42 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> Well, then I conclude that LX/TELNET doesn't implement VT-100 emulation.
> I don't know whether or not it *claims* to emulate VT-100 or not.

In all seriousness, I guess it's a trivial matter. I do use telnet quite =
a
bit though and it will be cool if Andreas can fix it.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:24:02 -0500
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I just opened up the doc file for TELNET/LX, and it says there is a F9
> toggle for changing the emulation between VT-100 and plain DUMB terminal.

Nope, I'm using Telnet/LX X right now to write this message via Pine and
I also just reread the docs and tried the F9 thing.... It's in VT-100
mode. Maybe Andreas can take a peek at it and see what he can come up
with. I figured that someone might have experienced the problem before
me, but Peniel is the only other person that has mentioned it.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:44:03 +0100
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Hi Jeff,

> had created software for the Pilot that was designed to help smokers
> 'kick
> the habit'. It kept track of how many cigarettes you smoked during a two
> or
> three day period and then aided by letting you know 'when' you could have
> a
> cigarette, slowly stepping you down in the quanity over a given period of
> time. Does anyone know of any DOS based software like this that will run
> on
> the LX? I know Mack is getting tired of breathing my second hand smoke
> when
> he rides patrol with me <g>.

I am a smoker, too, and I have been thinking about writing this
kind of software for a long time, but I never found time to do
so. The Hp200Lx would be an ideal platform for such a program.


Reinhard

PS: what if the hardware-freaks here would develop a lighter for
the PCMCIA-port. It could be controlled by the software then and
it would be a little bit harder to cheat <g>.


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              "Jeff" at Jun 7, 99 12:24:02 pm
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> > I just opened up the doc file for TELNET/LX, and it says there is a F9
> > toggle for changing the emulation between VT-100 and plain DUMB terminal.
>
> Nope, I'm using Telnet/LX X right now to write this message via Pine and
> I also just reread the docs and tried the F9 thing.... It's in VT-100
> mode. Maybe Andreas can take a peek at it and see what he can come up
> with. I figured that someone might have experienced the problem before
> me, but Peniel is the only other person that has mentioned it.

I was afraid of that answer, Jeff.  In my experiences, what is probably
happening is that we don't have support for a particular VT-100 command
in TELNET/LX - although this is just a guess.  There are quite a few
vt-100 commands, and I've heard that sometimes an emulator will chose
to implement only a sub-set of them.  You may want to check w/Andreas
and see if any particular command or group of command were omitted that
may relate to your highlighting problem.

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:02:47 -0700
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> PS: what if the hardware-freaks here would develop a lighter for
> the PCMCIA-port. It could be controlled by the software then and
> it would be a little bit harder to cheat <g>.

I would not wish to see a poor little LX get between a smoker and his
next smoke, especially when that smoker (in the case of Jeff) has a Glock
and knows how to use it.. <grin>

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> I would not wish to see a poor little LX get between a smoker and his
> next smoke, especially when that smoker (in the case of Jeff) has a
> Glock and knows how to use it.. <grin>

Especially if the batteries are low and the PCMCIA lighter won't get hot
enough to light the cigarette, and then to top it off Jeff finds out that
the current drain has wiped his RAM drive.  <g>

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> As you see, it's not just the time, it's the resources and bandwidth to pull it
> off. Most people find it hard to believe that palmtop.net is a hand-built P133
> sitting in my basement office and greeting the world through a 56K dialup for
> the last 3 years. It has worked hard this year:
>
>  10:00am  up 128 days, 13:03,  2 users,  load average: 0.63, 0.24, 0.14
>
> Try going 4 months without rebooting a Windows-based server. :)
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You sure did a good job. It rocks!

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:04:20 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> the current drain has wiped his RAM drive.  <g>

Thank goodness for the flash card that has everything backed up on it =
<g>!

Jeff

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:44:03 +0100, Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.=
DE> wrote:

> I am a smoker, too, and I have been thinking about writing this
> kind of software for a long time, but I never found time to do
> so. The Hp200Lx would be an ideal platform for such a program.

I think it's a great platform also. I don't know about everybody else, =
but
mine is with me most of the time, so inputting when I'm gonna 'light up'
wouldn't be a problem.... maybe it could interface with the Appointment
function and set off an alarm and let you know when it was time to have =
one.
Hmmm.... what if I lose the nicotine habit and get more addicted to my LX
<g>?

> PS: what if the hardware-freaks here would develop a lighter for
> the PCMCIA-port. It could be controlled by the software then and
> it would be a little bit harder to cheat <g>.

Uh, oh.... I can see the people lighting their crack rocks with the LX :(
<g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:40:39 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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1999-06-06-15:37:47 Bob Graham:
> Ý...¨ I have used both NiCd and NiMH batteries and finally stopped because I
> couldn't get a day's life out of a charge.

This is all _so_ weird! Seems like everybody but me is having all kinds o'
trouble with rechargeables.

I don't know what the previous poster meant by "reconditioning", but the
things I've seen advocated for that purpose are deep-discharging, and zapping.

Fans of deep discharging will advocate putting a little light-bulb across a
single cell at a time, and running it down until it's stone dead, then
recharging it. Don't deep charge whole battery packs at once, since doing that
will put a highly-destructive reverse voltage across the first cell to
discharge.

Zapping goes along with the theory that batteries lose capacity because of
little conductive whiskers that grow between the contacts; the usual
recommendation seems to be to dump a capacitor and let the current surge fry
the little whiskers into oblivion. Do it in a blast chamber says I:-).

I've used two pairs of AAs, each for a couple of years. First I bought a pair
of Radio Shack "High Capacity" NiCD AAs, 850mAH. They were as far as I know
still fine a couple of years later when I upgraded to the pair of Radio Shack
NiMH's I'm using now (not positive their rated capacity, but it's somewhere in
the neighborhood of 1200mAH). They're also still working fine. My strategy is
simple, so very simple:

(1) I use the builtin charger in my 100/200LX; it's the only recharger I have.
    I never take the batteries out; the battery cover never comes off.

(2) When I buy the batteries and they are brand new and dead, I run 'em
    through a couple of the LX's 6-hour high-current charge cycles to mostly
    fill 'em up.

(3) Once they have gotten their initial fill-up, I install batset (available
    from S.U.P.E.R.Ý1¨), with the line in autoexec.bat:

        batset /c/t=00:01

    so that from then on, whenever I plug the LX in, it gets only one minute
    (the minimum supported) of high-current charge, and immediately drops down
    to trickle. I plug the LX in whenever I'm at my desk or at home asleep.

(4) When an exception comes up, and I can't charge for some time --- e.g. like
    last sommer when I was sailing for a couple of weeks --- when I get home,
    I give it a 6-hour cycle just to make sure it's well off dead.

(5) I carry around a mini-maglite with two of the single-user
    infinite-shelflife Lithiums, as a backups in case my batteries ever do go
    dead, but it hasn't happened yet.

The operational theory behind my strategy is that "memory effect" is a myth,
overcharging at high current damages cells, but trickle charging is benign. So
far so good!

-Bennett

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:30:32 -0800
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Ok Jesus,

Can you post an example of your linear setup.


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      Sorry to disagree. I use a 4Mb linear flash on my HP200LX-4meg, as a
      backup device. If properly formatted, access time for backup purposes is
      reasonable. And data never fades out, as did my previous SRAM card (that
      run out of internal batteries..).
      Regards from Spain.
      Jesus.


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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:50:34 +0100
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> Yes I have. If I start with just the dos I have "Largest exe=503968".
> When I run Post I get "Free=308

This is 308k of free ***DOS*** memory. This is the memory that can be
used for OTHER programs (e.g. an editor started from POST/LX).

If you get a PalMemFail, it means that the INTERNAL memory of POST/LX
is full. POST/LX only has about 40k of memory available. That memory,
it has to use for EVERYTHING (e.g. the configuration data, graphical
backgrounds of GUI windows, indexes, temporary work memory, fonts
etc.). The most memory hungry part is the configuration. If you strip
out things like comments and empty lines and shorten names, you gain a
lot of memory.

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> >   echo $TERM
>
> dec-VT100 <g>

That's fine.

And you said that there is no "garbage", so I assume the commands are
understood by telnet/lx, but are not rendered the way you want. I can
have a look at the code...

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rclott@RO.COM R. Christopher Lott wrote:
> LXTELNET, or LXTELNET isn't implementing some of the VT100 commands.

Or both. :-)

TELNET/LX in fact does not implement all VT100 commands. There are
hundreds of mysterious commands nobody uses (nor knows). But I also
implemented "just the most important ones", so it is very well possible
that there are some used ones that I have not implemented. As I said:
if somebody identifies such a command, I gladly implement it if
possible.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:50:46 +0100
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> Telnet/LX, Lynx displays some garbage characters

If you tell me what they are, I can try to find out what those VT100
sequences are supposed to mean and extend telnet/lx.

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Subject:      Re: Flash Card Delay after Power On
Comments: To: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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1999-06-06-23:50:13 Stanley Dobrowski:
> The palmtop sees the flash card as a removable media device and therefore it
> cannot have more than one partition on it.

Well, I haven't tried using either gizmo with plain DOS, but I _know_ Zip
drives and Jaz drives are removable media that support multiple partitions,
and the multiple partitions have worked fine under Linux with no special
help since the boxes were introduced, which suggests to me at least that the
basic standards for handling removable hard drives under DOS would probably
work fine with multiple partitions --- Linux hasn't been especially fast to
successfully reverse-engineer concealed proprietary Windows-only interfaces,
and when it supports something perfectly the moment it comes out it generally
means its doing things in a standard fashion.

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Is the installation procedure for installing the HP Connectivity Pack on
Windows 95 and 98 different from installing on Windows 3.1? I have never
been successful.
Ken

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:11:05 -0500
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:50:44 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> And you said that there is no "garbage", so I assume the commands are
> understood by telnet/lx, but are not rendered the way you want. I can
> have a look at the code...

I get no garbage, although Peniel said that he *did* get some with Lynx. =
I
can look and see what version I'm using if that will help. He and I both
agree with the lack of inverted characters in certain apps and I have the
weird, 'non scrolling' screen in irc and at least one other app.

Jeff

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Mon,  7 Jun 1999 20:11:48 +0100 (BST)

1 day 06h43m58s ago ...
On Sun,  6 Jun 1999 05:27:50 -0700 (CST), Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> And maybe somebody can forward this announcement to HPHAND on
> CompuServe so that the few left behind there are informed too.

Oops I missed this - sorry for the delay. Done now! Section 11.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:58:52 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Get files from a 100LX

John Waller writes:
> Can anybody tell me how to programmatically retrieve a file
>  from an LX?

Lxtools for dos works under Win95 & Win NT. Under Win95 I had problems
SENDING large files to the HPLX. No trouble retrieving files from the
palmtop (including this meassage :)


======================
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:34:22 +0100
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> He and I both
> agree with the lack of inverted characters in certain apps

I would assume they lack in ALL apps as currently telnet/lx just
outputs plain text and does not do any colors. Will implement a few
colors (those based on black and white :-)

> and I have the
> weird, 'non scrolling' screen in irc and at least one other app.

I assume it is because the palmtop screen is 25 lines and the vt100
screen is 24 lines. Maybe you should get that to work by setting the
terminal size to 25 lines (what UNIX do you use?).

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Done now! Section 11.

Thanks a lot!

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Hi Andreas, Jeff, Peniel, R. Chris....

02h57m15s ago ...
On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Jeff wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> > I just opened up the doc file for TELNET/LX, and it says there is a =
F9
> > toggle for changing the emulation between VT-100 and plain DUMB =
terminal.
>
> Nope, I'm using Telnet/LX X right now to write this message via Pine =
and
> I also just reread the docs and tried the F9 thing.... It's in VT-100
> mode. Maybe Andreas can take a peek at it and see what he can come up
> with. I figured that someone might have experienced the problem before
> me, but Peniel is the only other person that has mentioned it.

     FWIW: Actually, when Telnet/LX was first released(or there abouts)
I had the exact same problem (just telneted to UConn's UNIX box and
verified it now). I don't use PINE that much, and only really use the
mail on UNIX as a redirector for the HPLX-L archives, so it wasn't a
big deal. I was using NetTamer to TelNet and that seemed to work fine.
My priority at the time was a 3270 emulator( which I finally got
working thru the Clarkson Univ TCP package). It would be great to get
the inverse video working now though...please put me on the "beta
team".

     BTW tried the f9 key...wow, what a mess ;-)

Cheers,


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Subject:      Re: A couple more WWW/LX Questions.....
In-Reply-To:  <199906071934.VAA557482@mail.iprolink.ch> from "Andreas Garzotto"
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> I would assume they lack in ALL apps as currently telnet/lx just
> outputs plain text and does not do any colors. Will implement a few
> colors (those based on black and white :-)

I think that just implementing inverse mode would be all that's
necessary.  I wouldn't fool w/the color commands, unless someone
specifically needs it.

> > and I have the
> > weird, 'non scrolling' screen in irc and at least one other app.
>
> I assume it is because the palmtop screen is 25 lines and the vt100
> screen is 24 lines. Maybe you should get that to work by setting the
> terminal size to 25 lines (what UNIX do you use?).

That's easy to fix, assuming the programmer who wrote your irc client
used standard terminal management libraries (like curses).  On my
system, again under the Bourne shell (bash), I use the evnironment
variables LINES and COLUMNS to set non-standard screen sizes.  (I had
to do this once when I was testing out an old Data General "laptop"
computer for my dentist).

-Chris


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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:57:51 -0500
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:34:22 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> I would assume they lack in ALL apps as currently telnet/lx just
> outputs plain text and does not do any colors. Will implement a few
> colors (those based on black and white :-)

Yes... I guess that is true <g>.

> I assume it is because the palmtop screen is 25 lines and the vt100
> screen is 24 lines. Maybe you should get that to work by setting the
> terminal size to 25 lines (what UNIX do you use?).

Hmmm.... it could be due to the size I guess, but MiniTelnet (which =
wasn't
originally designed for the LX) works as does LXTelnet by Rod Whitby, =
which,
I believe, is a modified version of another Telnet program.

Jeff

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               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
               =3D=3D           Birmingham, Alabama USA           =3D=3D
               =3D=3D HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! =3D=3D
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:54:13 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> I think that just implementing inverse mode would be all that's
> necessary.  I wouldn't fool w/the color commands, unless someone
> specifically needs it.

Agreed!

> That's easy to fix, assuming the programmer who wrote your irc client

I use ircII which is a widely used client on Unix/Linux systems and is
available in a multitude of variations. What is weird is that MiniTelnet
(available on S.U.P.E.R.) and LXTelnet (available from Rod Whitby) handle
the scrolling correctly, as do Datacomm and BananaComm which are really
telnet clients, but they both do VT-100 emulation.

Jeff

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               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
               =3D=3D           Birmingham, Alabama USA           =3D=3D
               =3D=3D HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! =3D=3D
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:12:44 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  <199906072003.PAA30899x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Jun 7,
              99 03:03:36 pm
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> > That's easy to fix, assuming the programmer who wrote your irc client
>
> I use ircII which is a widely used client on Unix/Linux systems and is
> available in a multitude of variations. What is weird is that MiniTelnet
> (available on S.U.P.E.R.) and LXTelnet (available from Rod Whitby) handle
> the scrolling correctly, as do Datacomm and BananaComm which are really
> telnet clients, but they both do VT-100 emulation.

Jeff:

Another possibility, and this might be hard to track down, is that there
is a slight error in the handling of the cursor codes by TELNET/LX.  Back
in college I wrote a VT-100 emulator (for my co-op job), and as Andreas
says, there are zillions of codes - and sometimes the desired action
isn't always clear.  At the time, the one sure check was to bounce my
program's behaviour against a real VT-100, but they are getting harder
and harder to come by these days.  I think there's an active group
(mailing list or usenet, can't recall which) that deals almost entirely
with these kinds of issues.  I ran into them trying to track down the
TERMCAP entry for my previously-mentioned funky DG laptop.

-Chris

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:12:44 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> (mailing list or usenet, can't recall which) that deals almost entirely
> with these kinds of issues.  I ran into them trying to track down the

Hmmm.... maybe Rod Whitby could offer some advice(?) Of course, I am
volunteering his services without asking, and he is a busy man <g>.

Jeff

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               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:50:37 -0500
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After almost two years of use, I finally replaced my Times2Tech batteries
with a pair of 1450mAh batteries from Batteries Plus (which I assume is a
chain store here in North America). I have had ABC/LX setup as per the
instructions on Mack's web site. Are these settings still pretty much =
valid
for use with my new batteries?

Jeff

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               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
               =3D=3D           Birmingham, Alabama USA           =3D=3D
               =3D=3D HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! =3D=3D
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: NiMH Batteries & ABC/LX

16 hours fast
4 hours slow
6 hours stall
2.95 volts peak


Jeff Johns writes:
> After almost two years of use, I finally replaced my Times2Tech batteries
> with a pair of 1450mAh batteries from Batteries Plus (which I assume is a
> chain store here in North America). I have had ABC/LX setup as per the
> instructions on Mack's web site. Are these settings still pretty much valid
> for use with my new batteries?
>
> Jeff
>
>                === Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ===
>                ==    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ==
>                ==           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ==
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Comments:     Originally-From: CFricke@t-online.de (Christian Fricke)
From:         Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Silicom Ethernet and double speed HP200LX
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Hi,

i am using a silicom ethernetcard in my double speed palmtop(s) since
about two years. First in a 32MB HP200lX and after this machine gave up
now in a new 64MB both with double speed.

My configuration for loading the driver is:

sehp
spepkt noenable eightbit packet_int=60

The "eightbit" seams to be the important value ...
Perhaps someone can test this parameter on an other silicom card.

Many greetings and longe live the HP200LX!!

Christian Fricke  cfricke@t-online.de

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:05:59 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Is there anything special about the AC adapter for the LX? Mine's
looking pretty beat up.
Is there any problem with just picking up a replacement at Radio Shack?

Steve

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Subject:      Re: AC Adapter...

Steve Dowell writes:
> Is there anything special about the AC adapter for the LX? Mine's
> looking pretty beat up.
> Is there any problem with just picking up a replacement at Radio Shack?

Radio Shack adapters aren't that well regulated plus they are only linear
not switching. Thaddeus sells a nice small 12 volt switching power supply
for the LX.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:43:01 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Why not just create a binary maillist, and those who want to get
every update on SUPER would subscribe to it, and then the SUPER
site would simply send one email to everyone with the new file(s)?

Seems much easier to implement (IMHO)...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: S.U.P.E.R. access with HV?


>Hi friends,
>
>> A nice solution would be an automatic email service of SUPER:
>> I send an email to a special super address and the body of the
>> email contains a zip file name. In return I get the file send
>> as attachment to my address.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:55:57 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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I just got my trial issue of Palmtop Paper, and it had a catalog from
Thaddeous (sp?) and in there they offered to load Software Carousel
on your CF card, and I think they required 5-8 Meg free (IIRC)... A 5
meg machine might be reasonable, I'd check there first (for
reference).

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

Jeff - please send me a pointer on BayPack for palm packet
use via private mail (thanks, Ken N2VIP)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:53 AM
Subject: Software Carousel Question


How large is Software Carousel and the files associated with it? Is it
feasible to run it on a 8MB machine?

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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:

> Why not just create a binary maillist, and those who want to get every
> update on SUPER would subscribe to it, and then the SUPER site would
> simply send one email to everyone with the new file(s)?
>
> Seems much easier to implement (IMHO)...

That would be good, but it would cause a hideous backlog of outgoing mail
from palmtop.net and slow things to a crawl.  Unless it could be sent from
a machine with a T1 connection.  <g>

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:28:35 -0400
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58m60s ago ...
On Mon,  7 Jun 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> > Is there any problem with just picking up a replacement at Radio =
Shack?
>
> Radio Shack adapters aren't that well regulated plus they are only =
linear
> not switching. Thaddeus sells a nice small 12 volt switching power =
supply
> for the LX.

Well, RS does have one regulated, switching adapter.  I'm using it now.
It's a selectable 3, 4.5, 6, 9, 12V unit, rated at 1A.  Pricey, though
- $39.95.  The one from Thaddeus is your better bet.  Same price, and a
LOT smaller.

HTH

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> How large is Software Carousel and the files associated with it? Is it
> feasible to run it on a 8MB machine?

Yes!  I run it on a 4Meg single speed 200LX.  I have 3 sessions;
1 is 384k for SysMgr, the other 2 are max size (@600k) Dos
sessions.  Of those 2, 1 runs WWWLX most of the time and the
other is for games and misc. stuff.  I keep the SC files on my
10Meg flash card (listed below).  My swap file is on C: and is @1.3Meg.

My only space problem is I have to be careful how much gets
downloaded via email and newsgroups as C: usually only has
@900k-1.2Meg free.

cheers... Russ    (computing with a shoehorn!)

 Volume in drive A is RLBROOKS
 Directory of A:\SC

.            <DIR>     04-05-97  10:46a
..           <DIR>     04-05-97  10:46a
100LX    COM       593 06-14-98   7:50a
AREA     TXT      7072 06-14-98   7:50a
AUTO     TXT      3894 06-14-98   7:50a
CAROUSEL OPT       565 05-31-99   6:16p
CAROUSEL BAK       565 05-31-99   6:16p
CAROUSEL PGM     52529 06-14-98   7:50a
CAROUSEL EXE      5074 06-14-98   7:50a
HP       BAT       315 06-14-98   7:50a
MEMO9970 DTA     40773 06-14-98   7:50a
MEMO9999 DTA      2984 06-14-98   7:50a
OPTIMIZE EXE     33451 06-14-98   7:50a
POWER    PAK    133744 06-14-98   7:50a
SCCONFIG EXE     69906 06-14-98   7:50a
SCMENU   ICN       200 06-14-98   7:50a
SCMENU   COM        16 06-14-98   7:50a
SCUTIL   EXM     58336 06-14-98   7:50a
SCUTIL   ICN       200 06-14-98   7:50a
SC_MENU  EXE     70222 06-14-98   7:50a
SETUP    TXT      1638 06-14-98   7:50a
SWITCHC  ICN       200 06-14-98   7:50a
SWITCHC  COM        65 06-14-98   7:50a
TROUBLE  TXT      3498 06-14-98   7:50a
       24 file(s)     485840 bytes
                     3080192 bytes free

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:40:01 +0200
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Subject:      Re: AC Adapter...

> > Radio Shack adapters aren't that well regulated plus they are only linear
> > not switching. Thaddeus sells a nice small 12 volt switching power supply
> > for the LX.
>
> Well, RS does have one regulated, switching adapter.  I'm using it now.
> It's a selectable 3, 4.5, 6, 9, 12V unit, rated at 1A.  Pricey, though
> - $39.95.  The one from Thaddeus is your better bet.  Same price, and a
> LOT smaller.

Are you using that one on the LX? I remember checking it out and finding
it had high noise levels. Plus it was so expensive.

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05h42m19s ago ...
On Mon,  7 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > Telnet/LX, Lynx displays some garbage characters
>
> If you tell me what they are, I can try to find out what those VT100
> sequences are supposed to mean and extend telnet/lx.

Just one character (but a lot of them) - looks like a little sunburst -
I think it's ASCII 15

HTH

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52m42s ago ...
On Mon,  7 Jun 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> > Well, RS does have one regulated, switching adapter.  I'm using it =
now.
> > It's a selectable 3, 4.5, 6, 9, 12V unit, rated at 1A.  Pricey, =
though
> > - $39.95.  The one from Thaddeus is your better bet.  Same price, and =
a
> > LOT smaller.
>
> Are you using that one on the LX? I remember checking it out and =
finding
> it had high noise levels. Plus it was so expensive.

I'm using the RS one at the moment.  Bought it a while back as a spare.
Started using it when the HP adapter died.  Also have an Elpac one
from DigiKey. Tiny like the Thaddeus one, but I had to change the
plug.  Wrong size and polarity.  It's 12V 800 mA.  Costs $29.42  Runs
very cool.  The RS unit gets slightly warm.

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> > Why not just create a binary maillist, and those who want to get every
> > update on SUPER would subscribe to it, and then the SUPER site would
> > simply send one email to everyone with the new file(s)?
>
> That would be good, but it would cause a hideous backlog of outgoing mail
> from palmtop.net and slow things to a crawl.  Unless it could be sent from
> a machine with a T1 connection.  <g>

<whistle>  Hm, a machine with a T1 connection... I wonder where we could
find one of those... <whistle>  <look innocent>

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
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I asked once before now but never got any responses so I figured I would =
ask
again. Does anyone know where I might be able to find to pieces of =
Japanese
software that are named DATEMAN.EXE and ICNDSP.EXE? I have checked all =
the
Japanese sites that I am aware of and can't find them. Any suggestions =
would
be greatly appreciated.

Jeff

               =3D=3D=3D Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain =3D=3D=3D
               =3D=3D    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    =3D=3D
               =3D=3D           Birmingham, Alabama USA           =3D=3D
               =3D=3D HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! =3D=3D
               =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Finger jeffj@scott.net for PGP RSA Key =
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:25:41 -0600
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I use it on a 4MB machine with three partitions:
  1. 512K for app manager, lets me run DOS prompt also
  2. 384K for Online Bible (program on flash)
  3. 256K for WordStar, Rightwriter, thesaurus, utilties, etc.

My swap file 819,200 bytes -- varied size until run perfectly. Use PKLITE to
reduce exe & com file size whenever applicable.

Have disabled all bells & whistles for more memory, speed. Had SC on drive C:
for two years, recently moved it to A: along with Rightwriter to free up some
space on C:. Keep some files zipped to conserve space.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Jeff Johns wrote:

> How large is Software Carousel and the files associated with it? Is it
> feasible to run it on a 8MB machine?
>
> Jeff
>
>                === Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ===
>                ==    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ==
>                ==           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ==
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>(3) Once they have gotten their initial fill-up, I install batset
(available
>    from S.U.P.E.R.Ý1¨), with the line in autoexec.bat:
>
>        batset /c/t=3D00:01
>
>    so that from then on, whenever I plug the LX in, it gets only one
minute
>    (the minimum supported) of high-current charge, and immediately drop=
s
down
>    to trickle. I plug the LX in whenever I'm at my desk or at home
asleep.

Or you could use the DOS program TRICKLE the the charge.zip package I
made for Super. TRICKLE enables charging but sets the HP up for trickle
charging straight away.

There is also a CHARGE which lets you turn charging off from DOS.

Hmm, thanks for your input. I remember from an earlier discussion that
some people recommend charging on high for an extended amount of time
unless one discharged the batteries *fully* between charges.
There is also a program for doing this in CHARGE.ZIP.

So, who is right?

Jorgen

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Subject:      Re: How do you have  lxnntp download only headers?
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>

Ed Padin writes:
> On a space limited machine like the LX I think that adding that
> feature to lxnntp would be great. I've even seen pop clients support a
> similar feature but I'm not sure how it's implemented in either. I know that
> the POP 'list' command will give you a list of message numbers and sizes but
> I don't know how they get just headers. I hope Rod has the time to add this
> :-)...

Don't hold your breath.  Seriously, I just don't have the personal
need to warrant my spending time on this (I only read high S/N ratio
groups on the palmtop).

I would be happy to advise someone else who wants to add this
functionality to LXNNTP, but just don't have the time to do it myself.

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Subject:      Re: A couple more WWW/LX Questions.....
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

"R. Christopher Lott writes:
> Well, then I conclude that LX/TELNET doesn't implement VT-100 emulation.
> I don't know whether or not it *claims* to emulate VT-100 or not.

There is no such program called LX/TELNET.  There are two telnet
programs designed specifically for the HP200LX which could resemble
that name:

LXTELNET (derived from NCSA Telnet, and modified for use on the
HP200LX by me) is a freeware component of LXTCP (lxtcp.hplx.net), and
the claim is that it does full VT220 emulation (which is a superset of
VT100).  If anyone finds a case where it doesn't then please let me
know, cause I depend upon it being a true VT220 terminal (mainly to
run XEmacs on Unix when dialled up).

Telnet/LX (written by Andreas) is a freeware companion program for
WWW/LX (www.dasoft.com).  As far as I know, no claim has been made
that it does full VT100 emulation, but Andreas has said that he will
make it do full VT100 emulation if possible (and if someone points out
where it does not emulate VT100 correctly).

Just wanted to clear up the confusion, so that people knew exactly
which program was being referred to by Jeff.

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Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> > Telnet/LX, Lynx displays some garbage characters
>
> If you tell me what they are, I can try to find out what those VT100
> sequences are supposed to mean and extend telnet/lx.

Andreas,

Feel free to take a look at the source code for LXTELNET (part of
LXTCP).  It works with Lynx, Pine, XEmacs, etc. displaying reverse
characters, so it must have the right VT sequences in there.  It's
supposed to fully emulate VT220.

Note that I can take no credit for it working - the VT code is taken
from NCSA Telnet (which had a licensing agreement which explicitly
puts the code in the public domain, allowing you to use it for
commercial purposes).

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Subject:      Re: A couple more WWW/LX Questions.....
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:12:44 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
>
> > (mailing list or usenet, can't recall which) that deals almost entirely
> > with these kinds of issues.  I ran into them trying to track down the
>
> Hmmm.... maybe Rod Whitby could offer some advice(?) Of course, I am
> volunteering his services without asking, and he is a busy man <g>.

The only thing I can offer is the source code.  I haven't changed the
VT220 emulation in LXTELNET from when it was NCSA Telnet, and Andreas
probably knows lots more about VT100 emulation than I do (cause he
actually wrote the code for Telnet/LX, whereas I just modified existing
code from NCSA Telnet).


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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:41:41 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Hi QMan,

finally I succeded nearly with the following:

#Editor Setting
%e      ,b800   ,$c %p%c;$ {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}    #Memo

This is similar to what You suggested, but not specified for
file-extensions. I can choose a text- or doc-file in the file-list-screen
of x-finder, point a file,  press F9 to edit. Then memo opens and stuffs
the file-name in the file-name-window of the open-file-dialogue-window.
Then I have to manually press enter to open the file, eventhough I
configured {enter} in filer.env. How can I force the process to enter itself?

And as You proposed, "custom" {F7} does not work correct, it always loads
the last content of the keyboard-buffer in the file-open-dialogue of memo.

Cheers, Axel

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On 31 May 1999 qman@earthlink.net wrote:

> Hi Axel,
>
> As a workaround try adding the following lines to the
>
> "#Execution by matched file extension" section of your finder.env file.
>
> This should get memo to open .txt .doc. env files, but the ÝF7¨ Custom key
> won't work for editing your finder.env file.
>
> .txt ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
> .doc ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
> .env ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
>
> Regards,
> Qman...

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:20:23 +0200
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      Of course:
      AUTOXEC.BAT has no modifications at all.

      CONFIG.SYS
      buffers=20
      files=30
      lastdrive=J
      device=ms-flash.sys

      Ypu will need MEMCARD.EXE to format and partition the flash, and
      MS-FLASH.SYS to be able to handle it.
      Regards,
      Jesus.




"Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> con fecha 07/06/99 21.30.32


Por favor, responda a HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Por favor,
      responda a qman@EARTHLINK.NET

        De               "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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        A
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        Copias a
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        CCI              Jesus Consuegra Manzanares/CATALUNYA/RETEVISION
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        Fecha            07/06/99 21.30
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        Tema             Re: Using a Linear Flash Card
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Ok Jesus,

Can you post an example of your linear setup.


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      Sorry to disagree. I use a 4Mb linear flash on my HP200LX-4meg, as a
      backup device. If properly formatted, access time for backup purposes is
      reasonable. And data never fades out, as did my previous SRAM card (that
      run out of internal batteries..).
      Regards from Spain.
      Jesus.


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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:50:59 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Subject:      x-Finder/opening HTM-Files w. HV/LX?
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Hi all,

does anyone know, how I an open HTM-Files with HV (WWW/LX)?- I configured
in Finder.env the HTM-Files as

#Execution by matched file extension
.htm    ,       ,c:\www\hv.exe %c

by pointing an HTM-file (example.htm) and pressing enter, HV.EXE tries to
start, shows "Starting up..." and shows an "Open Error"-window with "could
not acces example.htm"- "Continue". After pressing Enter to continue, HV
quits. How to fix this?

Cheers & thanks, Axel
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Comments: cc: rclott@RO.COM

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Another possibility, and this might be hard to track down, is that there
> is a slight error in the handling of the cursor codes by TELNET/LX.  Back
> in college I wrote a VT-100 emulator (for my co-op job), and as Andreas
> says, there are zillions of codes - and sometimes the desired action
> isn't always clear.  At the time, the one sure check was to bounce my
> program's behaviour against a real VT-100, but they are getting harder
> and harder to come by these days.

Try vttest, written by Per Lindberg. It verifies vt100 compatibility bug by bug...

http://www.cc.columbia.edu/kermit/vttest.html

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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>> Why not just create a binary maillist, and those who want to get every
>> update on SUPER would subscribe to it, and then the SUPER site would
>> simply send one email to everyone with the new file(s)?
>That would be good, but it would cause a hideous backlog of outgoing mail
>from palmtop.net and slow things to a crawl.  Unless it could be sent from
>a machine with a T1 connection.  <g>



Isn't there a free mailserver anywhere that could be used? If you just sent
one mail there then the other mailserver would spread it. www.onelist.com
has a 500KB message limit, but LX programs are usually small!

How about Al Kind who is hosting this mailing list. Can he fix something up
or is he stretching things a bit where he works?

br

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Hi Paul,

Your improved version of Your LXMUSIC is great. A really useful prog for
people who try to catch their musical ideas on the road.-

Now You realized to play recorded notes afterwards rhythmical with one key
(play 1-funktion), great.- But the best of all would be, to record this
tap-played-rhythmisation! To understand again, sometimes i find a few
notes, hack them in without the need to define note- and pause-length (I'm
not good in that musical theory) and play immediately afterwards with the
play1-funktion the notes in the desired rhythm.  Because now I cannot >keep<
the rhythm i defined in that way, I maybe play the tune a few days later
(suppose, I forgot it meanwhile <g>), I have a bunch of notes without
rhythm, and because I also forgot the rhythm I had in mind <g>, I cannot
reproduce it with the Play1-Mode. Did You understand? It's very hard for
me, to explain this in english, so, sorry for that.

Cheers, Axel
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Tue,  8 Jun 1999 06:12:55 -0500 (EST)

01h54m20s ago ...
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Franklin wrote:

> ...
>
> How about Al Kind who is hosting this mailing list. Can he fix something=
 up
> or is he stretching things a bit where he works?
>
> ...

     OK, I'll look into it :-)

Please send me a PRIVATE note if your interested in such a LIST, if
there is enough response, I'll do it.

Cheers,



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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> How large is Software Carousel and the files associated with it? Is it
> feasible to run it on a 8MB machine?

I have a 5MB palmtop and have been using SC for years.  I
admit that I have a 40MB flash card also.  You did not mention
if the internal 8MB was all of your storage.

My SC directory is 671,000 bytes, but I am sure that about 1/2
of that is not needed for actual program operation.

I use a 2MB swap file on the C: drive for SC's resource pool
and thia allows me to have 4 session of over 600K each.


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Hi Axel

> does anyone know, how I an open HTM-Files with HV (WWW/LX)?- I configure=
d
> in Finder.env the HTM-Files as
>
> #Execution by matched file extension
> .htm    ,       ,c:\www\hv.exe %c
>


Try .htm   ,f   ,c:\www\hv.exe %p%c

Notice the f after the first comma and the %p%c

I cant remember what the f is for but I recall that the %p adds the
path of the file.  Hope this works for you.

Good luck

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Yeap! Sure do. The trick is that your htm files must be in the HV directory.
or what ever directory you have set in your hv.cfg.

example:


ÝSystem¨

; Set this to the directory where you have installed the HTML documents
; if it is not the place where you have HV.EXE
Root=a:\miniweb

Also here is what my line looks like in my finder.env:

#Execution by matched file extension
.htm    ,f      ,hv %c                          #view HTML files


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Hi all,

does anyone know, how I an open HTM-Files with HV (WWW/LX)?- I configured
in Finder.env the HTM-Files as

#Execution by matched file extension
.htm    ,       ,c:\www\hv.exe %c

by pointing an HTM-file (example.htm) and pressing enter, HV.EXE tries to
start, shows "Starting up..." and shows an "Open Error"-window with "could
not acces example.htm"- "Continue". After pressing Enter to continue, HV
quits. How to fix this?

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Great find Barbara!

That added %p did the trick. Where were you 2 months ago. (:-)

Hey Axel,

Disregard my last this works better.


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Hi Axel

> does anyone know, how I an open HTM-Files with HV (WWW/LX)?- I configured
> in Finder.env the HTM-Files as
>
> #Execution by matched file extension
> .htm    ,       ,c:\www\hv.exe %c
>


Try .htm   ,f   ,c:\www\hv.exe %p%c

Notice the f after the first comma and the %p%c

I cant remember what the f is for but I recall that the %p adds the
path of the file.  Hope this works for you.

Good luck

Barbara


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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:56:44 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Hmmm.... it could be due to the size I guess, but MiniTelnet (which wasn't
> originally designed for the LX) works as does LXTelnet by Rod Whitby, which,
> I believe, is a modified version of another Telnet program.

Do I understand correctly?: you suggest that I should not do anything
about this because there is a different program that already works,
right?

If this is not what you say, there are two things that could be done:

1) I could limit telnet/lx to 24 screen lines and make the 25th line
inaccessable, thus making the small screen even smaller.

2) You could use LINES=25 or whatever is appropriate for your system
and you have the program running in 25 instead of 24 lines. Would that
be so unacceptable?

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:56:45 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> > necessary.  I wouldn't fool w/the color commands, unless someone
> > specifically needs it.
>
> Agreed!

I agreed with myself when I was implementing telnet/lx a few years ago
that I don't implement all the special VT100 stuff unless someone
specifically needs it. Seems this is the case now :-)

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:22:30 +0200
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why succeed nearly, when complete success is possible?

try
%e    ,b800    ,r||me

and pressing {f9} will open any file in memo,
{f7} will work to edit the configuration file,
and files decompressed from archives will be updated after editing, if
necessary.

if you add
    ,tr    ,%e %c
to the .??? file extension matching section, {shift}{enter} will edit files
which do not have specific actions assigned.

alan



> Hi QMan,
>
> finally I succeded nearly with the following:
>
> #Editor Setting
> %e      ,b800   ,$c %p%c;$ {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}    #Memo
>
> This is similar to what You suggested, but not specified for
> file-extensions. I can choose a text- or doc-file in the file-list-screen
> of x-finder, point a file,  press F9 to edit. Then memo opens and stuffs
> the file-name in the file-name-window of the open-file-dialogue-window.
> Then I have to manually press enter to open the file, eventhough I
> configured {enter} in filer.env. How can I force the process to enter
itself?
>
> And as You proposed, "custom" {F7} does not work correct, it always loads
> the last content of the keyboard-buffer in the file-open-dialogue of memo.
>
> Cheers, Axel
>
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>
> ----------------------------------------
> On 31 May 1999 qman@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > Hi Axel,
> >
> > As a workaround try adding the following lines to the
> >
> > "#Execution by matched file extension" section of your finder.env file.
> >
> > This should get memo to open .txt .doc. env files, but the ÝF7¨ Custom
key
> > won't work for editing your finder.env file.
> >
> > .txt ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
> > .doc ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
> > .env ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
> >
> > Regards,
> > Qman...
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:56:44 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.C=
H> wrote:

> Do I understand correctly?: you suggest that I should not do anything
> about this because there is a different program that already works,
> right?

There are some that work, but not with the WWW/LX engine.

> 1) I could limit telnet/lx to 24 screen lines and make the 25th line
> inaccessable, thus making the small screen even smaller.

I don't think it's a screen size problem... but maybe it is <g>.

> 2) You could use LINES=3D25 or whatever is appropriate for your system
> and you have the program running in 25 instead of 24 lines. Would that
> be so unacceptable?

Not really, I don't guess, but the point I was making was the other
available emulators don't require this.

Jeff

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Whats the difference between linear and switching adapters??  Why is
switching better?

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET¨
        Sent:   Monday, June 07, 1999 8:13 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: AC Adapter...

        Steve Dowell writes:
        > Is there anything special about the AC adapter for the LX?
Mine's
        > looking pretty beat up.
        > Is there any problem with just picking up a replacement at
Radio Shack?

        Radio Shack adapters aren't that well regulated plus they are
only linear
        not switching. Thaddeus sells a nice small 12 volt switching
power supply
        for the LX.

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Tue,  8 Jun 1999 09:08:52 -0400 (EDT)

45m12s ago ...
On Tue,  8 Jun 1999, Alan Krempler wrote:

> why succeed nearly, when complete success is possible?
>
> try
> %e    ,b800    ,r||me
>
> and pressing {f9} will open any file in memo,
> {f7} will work to edit the configuration file,

Alan -

I see in your address the .at suffix - is this Austria?  I can't find
my list of country codes.  I ask because this looks like what Axel was
trying earlier.  It works perfectly on English language palmtops, but
Axel is using a German one.  Is yours the English version or German, or
another?

Regards,

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This would work for me !

Jon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Hansen Ýmailto:khansen@NJCC.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 5:43 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: S.U.P.E.R. access with HV?
>
>
> Why not just create a binary maillist, and those who want to get
> every update on SUPER would subscribe to it, and then the SUPER
> site would simply send one email to everyone with the new file(s)?
>
> Seems much easier to implement (IMHO)...
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: S.U.P.E.R. access with HV?
>
>
> >Hi friends,
> >
> >> A nice solution would be an automatic email service of SUPER:
> >> I send an email to a special super address and the body of the
> >> email contains a zip file name. In return I get the file send
> >> as attachment to my address.
>
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Tue,  8 Jun 1999 09:21:03 -0400 (EDT)

16m36s ago ...
On Tue,  8 Jun 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

> Whats the difference between linear and switching adapters??  Why is
> switching better?

Switching power supplies are smaller, lighter, more efficient, and
AFAIK always regulated.  (Also more expensive). Regulated linear
supplies are generally bigger and heavier, and much less efficient.
Most adapters aren't regulated at all.

A "12V" unregulated supply may actually provide 14-15 volts (maybe
more) with no load, but may be quite a bit less than 12V at full rated
load.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:11:27 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <2B24B1089184D111B2A90000F6AA27B3029714F7@memex1.harrahs.com>
              from "Steve Dowell" at Jun 8, 99 08:04:17 am
Content-Type: text

> Whats the difference between linear and switching adapters??  Why is
> switching better?

Someone already answered the efficiency and  weight issues - but the
original post on this subject implied that the switchers were better
because they were well regulated.  Well, the regulation function is
independent of whether a supply is linear or swithed.  If a linear
supply exhibits poor/no regulation, it is because it isn't well
regulated (or regulated at all), *not* because it's a linear supply.
OTOH, as already pointed out, a switching supply, by it's fundamental
design, *must* always be regulated, whereas one can build a linear
supply with or without regulation.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:09:23 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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From:         Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
Subject:      Re: X-Finder / Memo as Editor
Comments: To: Alan Krempler <alan@oeh.tu-graz.ac.at>
In-Reply-To:  <007b01beb1a9$bdc5d180$cc01a8c0@alanp>
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Hi Alan,

On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Alan Krempler wrote:

> why succeed nearly, when complete success is possible?
> try
> %e    ,b800    ,r||me

would have been to nice, but that did'nt do the trick :-(
You might not have followed the thread concerning the usage of MEMO
(German Palmtops) in X-Finder. Your suggestion brings the effect back,
to where all started <g>

>This editor setting does not work right, memo is now starting, but
>empty, not with the chosed file as content. Memo starts and opens
>automatically the Menu "Format" with the checkbox for "Textformat", where
>You can chose the options bold + underlined. I don't know to fix this or
>how it can be defined, maybe it has to do with my german-language-palmtop?

As I wrote earlier, the problem is nearly solved with the help of the
palmtop-community :-), beside two little missing functions:

> > Hi QMan,
> > finally I nearly succeded with the following:
> >
> > #Editor Setting
> > %e      ,b800   ,$c %p%c;$ {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}    #Memo
> >
> > This is similar to what You suggested, but not specified for
> > file-extensions. I can choose a text- or doc-file in the file-list-screen
> > of x-finder, point a file,  press F9 to edit. Then memo opens and stuffs
> > the file-name in the file-name-window of the open-file-dialogue-window.
> > Then I have to manually press enter to open the file, eventhough I
> > configured {enter} in filer.env. How can I force the process to enter
> > itself?
> >
> > And as You proposed, "custom" {F7} does not work correct, it always loads
> > the last content of the keyboard-buffer in the file-open-dialogue of
> > memo.

I want to use MEMO because it's built-in, quick and enough for my needs
(and I'm used to it <g>, eventhough there are better editors like PE)

Cheers & thanks, Axel

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:17:55 -0400
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Subject:      PE macros for HTML tags
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Hi All!

     Rather than duplicate anyone else's work...does anyone have a set
of PE macros for inserting HTML tags they could send me?

TIA & Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:43:07 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 7 Jun 1999 11:51:26 -0700, garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH (Andreas Garzotto) =
wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > Yes I have. If I start with just the dos I have "Largest exe=3D503968"=
.
> > When I run Post I get "Free=3D308
>
> This is 308k of free ***DOS*** memory. This is the memory that can be
> used for OTHER programs (e.g. an editor started from POST/LX).

Okey I see. But I also used the About screen to "trig" the fail.

> If you get a PalMemFail, it means that the INTERNAL memory of POST/LX
> is full. POST/LX only has about 40k of memory available. That memory,
> it has to use for EVERYTHING (e.g. the configuration data, graphical
> backgrounds of GUI windows, indexes, temporary work memory, fonts
> etc.). The most memory hungry part is the configuration. If you strip
> out things like comments and empty lines and shorten names, you gain a
> lot of memory.
>
> Andreas

I have stripped the post.cfg down to 8196. Everything works great now!

It seems like when you get a post.cfg file above somewhere over 8300:
(running only post)

1. You will first get Palfail when you try too open the About screen
when you are standing in a folder with more than 0 messages.

2. If your post.cfg are bigger than 8500 then you will have problems
moving messages between folders without getting the "Palmfail"

These are approx values. I have not tested it that much.

Everything now works great..no problems what so ever. I will try to
strip my cfg's some more by deleting some newsgroups..not _this_ one
that is for sure!!  Thanks for all your help!

--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
Mailer:Hp200Lx Palmtop using Post/LX

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:27:51 +1000
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From:         Leon Phillips <LnC.Phillips@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject:      TIFF to PCX Conversion

Does anyone know of a graphics program that will convert TIFF GR 3 format
files to PCX/JPEG or BMP?  I have tried Graphics Workshop from the SUPER
site and I've also searched Simtelnet with no success.   There are a lot of
programs that read TIFF format but not the GR 3 format that is common with
faxes.  Another option for me would be an internet site that performs the
conversion.

The reason I am interested is so that I can use a free fax to email
service.

Regards,

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:40:45 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: AC Adapter...

R. Christopher Lott writes:
> > Whats the difference between linear and switching adapters??  Why is
> > switching better?
>
> Someone already answered the efficiency and  weight issues - but the
> original post on this subject implied that the switchers were better
> because they were well regulated.  Well, the regulation function is
> independent of whether a supply is linear or swithed.  If a linear
> supply exhibits poor/no regulation, it is because it isn't well
> regulated (or regulated at all), *not* because it's a linear supply.
> OTOH, as already pointed out, a switching supply, by it's fundamental
> design, *must* always be regulated, whereas one can build a linear
> supply with or without regulation.
>

Actually no one implied that. The orginal post said Radio Shack wall warts
were not well regulated, and never suggested it was because they
were linear. In fact, I believe the post went something like this, "Radio
Shack supplies are not very well regulated, and are linear, the 200LX really
needs a switching power supply." I'm curious where you get the idea from this
post that the poster was implying ALL linear power were unregulated or that
he was implying regulation was a function of the TYPE of power supply. You
shouldn't try to make yourself look smart at other peoples expense, you just
make yourself look stupid<g>. After all reading is a function of intelligence<g>.
Switching supplies can be, by their very nature, quite noisey
and unstable. Like anything a person has to check into them before they buy.
The Thaddeus 12 volt switcher is an excellant supply for the price. Very small
and very stable. The only thing is its not a univerisal input supply so it
needs either 120 US or 100 Japan.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:56:08 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:40:45 +0200, John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net=
> wrote:

> Switching supplies can be, by their very nature, quite noisey
> and unstable.

Not to get in the debate but... speaking don't ever try to run a ham rig =
off
of a switching P/S salvaged from an old computer. Talk about noise and
hash... I used it for about 30 secs :(

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:23:49 -0400
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Hi All:

     Try the "VIEW" program from the BGFax package (by B.J. Guilliot)
available on SUPER. Here is an extract form the docs:

> ...VIEW Ýfilename|filespec¨ Ýoptions¨
>
> VIEW has been designed to read faxes stored in the following formats
>         (a)  ZFAX version 2  (1D-MH coding only)
>         (b)  Smith Micro Software's QuickLink II QFX
>         (c)  TIFF-Class-F  (used by Faxworks, Word Perfect 5.1+, etc.)
>         (d)  Unknown formats (such as Binkley RAW, etc.)
>              (Results will vary when trying to read an unknown format)
>
> It can VIEW, PRINT, and CONVERT the above fax types to PCX and DCX
>  files...
>

     BGFAx is an excellent package for FAX on the LX...Only made better
by Jorgen's "FAXGUI".(IMHO)


Cheers,

01h48m38s ago ...
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Leon Phillips wrote:

> Does anyone know of a graphics program that will convert TIFF GR 3 =
format
> files to PCX/JPEG or BMP?  I have tried Graphics Workshop from the =
SUPER
> site and I've also searched Simtelnet with no success.   There are a =
lot of
> programs that read TIFF format but not the GR 3 format that is common =
with
> faxes.  Another option for me would be an internet site that performs =
the
> conversion.
>
> The reason I am interested is so that I can use a free fax to email
> service.
>
> Regards,
>
> Leon
>
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:26:08 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Thanks everyone for all the input. What I'm hearing is that whether you
go with switched or linear, the main point is that it should be well
regulated. I'm also hearing that the general consensus is that the AC
adapter from Thaddeus is probably a better way to go instead of Radio
Shack.  Thaddeus it is! : )

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:47:57 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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> with. I figured that someone might have experienced the problem before
> me, but Peniel is the only other person that has mentioned it.
>
> Jeff

For the record:
I do too. Have this problem, that is.


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:14:15 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Re: S.U.P.E.R. access with HV?
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

>sitting in my basement office and greeting the world through a 56K dialup
for
>the last 3 years. It has worked hard this year:


Does that mean a modem that is connected to your ISP all the time?

br

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:04:28 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Re: Smoking and the LX
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

>I know Mack is getting tired of breathing my second hand smoke when
>he rides patrol with me <g>.


Or maybe he is hitching a free ride in more ways than one. (Sorry Mack!)

:-)

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:52:35 -0400
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Subject:      NiCd - NiMH factoids...
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Reinhard Mueller <molitor@moli.franken.de> wrote:

> If there are simple facts about how to treat your batteries, why
> shouldn't they be discussed on the list. There is also an
> environmental issue about batteries and so I surely don't feel
> obsessed when it comes to getting the longest lifetime out of
> them

I understand what you mean.  I am not suggesting that we trash
the environment with spent batteries because we treat them
badly.  My current set of NiMH batteries are 3 years and 5
months old and still going strong.  I have treated them
responsibly but not worried needlessly about them either.  I
guess I am just suggesting a little more balance, that is all.
 And my comments were not pointed at anyone in particular.

I have no problem discussing anything here.  But, it seems to me
that sometimes a person comes here a little concerned about an
issue and with all of our technical discussions about every
little detail of the issue, we might tend to encourage a
simple worry to grow into an obsession.

As a silly example, if a person asks me what time it is, I
should not explain to him how to build a watch.  Then he might
think that the only way to tell time is to built his own
watch.

Technical discussions are great, but sometimes the simple
answers are good too.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:52:37 -0400
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David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> With all this discussion of batteries, I'm curious if anyone has a
> rough estimate of the range of `Annual Battery Cost of a 200Lx'

In Jan 1996, I paid $15 (I think) for a pair of 1200 mAh NiMH
batteries from Shier Systems and Software (www.shier.com).
With the help of ABC/LX, I am still using them now, so they
are costing me $4.39 per year and I have not thrown anything
in the garbage yet.  Good for me and good for the
environment.


Stan

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David Cripps <d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK> wrote:

> just been
> playing with the HP, with various options to see the current draw.
>
> Some interesting results:

Yes they were.  Thanks for doing that.  I think the difference
in power consumption when sitting idle in a SysMgr application
vs at the DOS prompt has to do with the level of power savings
the palmtop's BIOS can do.

SysMgr applications use a different keyboard interrupt than
does a DOS application.  It is my guess that because different
interrupts are used, the BIOS is able to employ more power
savings measures while in the completely controlled
environment of SysMgr than it can do while in the wide open
world of the DOS prompt.  In fact, some DOS programs can
totally screw up the BIOS'S power management features and
prevent light sleep and auto power off.  DOS is a very rough
playground. <G>


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Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> wrote:

> Is there anything special about the AC adapter for the LX? Mine's
> looking pretty beat up.
> Is there any problem with just picking up a replacement at Radio Shack?

If you buy a generic AC adapter, make sure it is rated at 12
volts DC with the proper polarity as indicated on the bottom
of the palmtop by the power socket.  The inner part of the
power plug must be minus.  Also, the AC adapter should be
rated to provide at least 750 ma to be on the safe side.

I would recommend that you buy another HP AC adapter, though.
They are small, light, run cool, have the folding plug, are
regulated to 12 volts, work on 110-220 volts and accept 50-60
Hz.

The transformer-based generic AC adapters are usually larger,
get warmer, and don't regulate their voltage very well.  A 12
volt unit might put out 15 or more volts at no load and 9 or
10 volts at full load.  The palmtop likes to have exactly 12
volts.

I also recomend staying away from the generic AC adapter with
a switchable voltage and/or a polarity reversing switch or
plug.  If you accidently change the voltage or polatiry, you
could damage the palmtop.  There is not much point in saving
$10 on the AC adapter but then have to pay $200 to fix the
computer.


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Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> Yes I have. If I start with just the dos I have "Largest exe=503968".
> When I run Post I get "Free=308 and disk=7140" in the About screen.

You need to listen to Andreas's advice - he knows what he is
talking about.  Your problem is not with the amount of DOS
free RAM that you are giving Post to use, but with Post's
internal variable storage space.  This is limited to a fixed
size no matter how much extra DOS RAM there is.

It seems that your POST.CFG file may be quite large
(relatively speaking) and hogging up all of Post's limited
internal variable storage space.  You have not said if you
have (carefully) edited it to remove comments (any line
beginngin with a semi-colon ";") and blank lines.  These
things take up lots of Post's precious internal variable space
and provide no function to Post whatsoever.  That stuff is
there for the humans to enjoy.  And with your configuration
having so many Email accounts and newsgroups, your POST.CFG
file is going to have to have lots of stuff in it anyway.

Andreas also recommended to shorten names and file pathnames.
I notice you have the WWW/LX Plus package installed in a
subdirectory called a:\progs\www\.  If you put the WWW
directory in the root of A:, then all of those pathnames could
be shortened and save some space in POST.CFG.

The advice we give above is the only way to solve your
troubles with Post.  Don't bother to continue fiddling with
those other RAM settings and with TSR's, etc.  That is not the
problem.


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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> Actually, if you run the batteries down in the LX until it will no longer
> turn on ( i.e. just beeps) the battery level is low enough to recondition
> the batteries right in the LX. This is perfectly safe for data as long
> as you regularly change the backup battery when it is below 2.98 volts

I think that is very bad advice to give to people.  It puts a
great strain on the backup battery and runs a high risk of
trashing the C: drive.

You can follow that proceedure if you wish, that is your
right.  But we should always give out safe and conservative
advice here because we never know the skil & knowledge levels
of the people listening.  Always practice safe advising.
<grin>

It is just as easy and 1 million times safer to discharge
batteries outside of the palmtop in a $0.59 flashlight.

... just my humble opinion.


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John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net> wrote:

> Why removeable media differant from fixed? According to the STK the LX
> sees a second partition on a flash card as drive B

I wonder if that information pertains to the 95LX more than
the 100/200LX.  In the 95LX, it looked at the PCMCIA slot
differently and did allow for two drive letters to be assigned
to a card in the slot.

I don't fully understand the details of what I am telling you
about the 100/200LX considering the slot as a removable media.
 This is what I have heard from opthers who know more than I
do.  However, I can describe two situations which bare this
out.

With the 95LX, when you used a Stacked SRAM or flash card, the
A: drive refered to the Stacked drive and B: refered to the
unstacked portion of the card.  It does not work this way in
the 100/200LX.  When using Stacker, you do not have any access
to the unstacked portion of the drive as long as Stacker is
running.  You must turn off Stacker to access the unstacked
part.  This is with the exact same version of Stacker on the
95 or 100/200LX.  So, it is not a Stacker "feature", it is due
to the way the BIOS in the different machines thinks of the
slot drive letters - the 100/200LX only allows one drive
letter to be assigned to the card in the slot.

Microsoft's Stacker-like disk compression utility called
DoubleSpace (That may have been one of the names, anyway)
could not be used with a card in the slot of the 100/200LX
because DoubleSpace would not work on removable media - only
fixed media drives like a real hard drive.  Stacker would work
with a floppy disk or Zip drive, but DoubleSpace could not.


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              theenvironment?
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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> For the past few days I have had a problem with the environment size
> getting stuck on 256 bytes in my first Software Carousel session, the
> one I run System Manager in

How are you getting to the DOS prompt in that session #1 in
order to play with and check environment space?  If you are
going to DOS with SysMgr running (such as with Ctrl-Lotus),
then that explains your trouble.  SysMgr is opening up a DOS
box for you and giving that DOS box only 256 bytes of
environment space.

It is SysMgr that is holding you tight to 256 bytes.  It has
nothing to do with SC.  Try terminating SysMgr in session 1 to
get to a real DOS prompt given to you by SC and check the
environment space.  I'll bet it is larger and corresponds to
the settings you have in SC or are in place before SC loads.


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Several people have asked me why I am looking for dateman.exe and icndsp.e=
xe
and what the software is, so here is a description out of some docs in =
some
Japanese software:


4. Related applications

   DATEMAN.EXE and ICNDSP.EXE, "DATECHECK & INT TRAP Manager"
   created by Mr. Tabikuro, will simulate the display of
   Extensions / Control Panels icons on HP100/200LX during
   start-up.  If for some reason the date is reset to 1980/01/01
   or if IntTrapHalt error occurs, it readjusts the date and
   shows a familiar bomb icon.


Sounds pretty cool, huh? I wrote the author, but the email bounced. I =
wrote
Toshiki at his palmtop.net address to see if he might know where I/we =
could
find the software, but never got any type of reply from him. So, if any =
of
you happen to find this somewhere in your internet travels, please send =
me a
copy <g>.

Jeff

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Sounds good to me. I guess what I'm failing to get is any sort of
notion of how many mAh the typical 200 consumes in the course of a
year. I recognize, of course, that this would vary widely user-to-user.
I am actually so ignorant that I don't even have any idea how
many mAh standard Radio Shack batteries are, but I guess if I knew
that then I could at least estimate my total annual mAh from my
normal usage pattern.

Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> In Jan 1996, I paid $15 (I think) for a pair of 1200 mAh NiMH
> batteries from Shier Systems and Software (www.shier.com).
> With the help of ABC/LX, I am still using them now, so they
> are costing me $4.39 per year and I have not thrown anything
> in the garbage yet.  Good for me and good for the
> environment.
>
> Stan
>

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> As a silly example, if a person asks me what time it is, I
> should not explain to him how to build a watch.  Then he might
> think that the only way to tell time is to built his own
> watch.

If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.  If you teach a man to
fish, he'll spend the day eating sunflower seeds and drinking beer.

No, wait.  That's not what I meant to say..

:-)

Obligatory on-topic question:  Anyone find a source of Li-ion AA batteries
yet?  (not the Energizer throw-away kind, the rechargable kind)

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: How does System Manager and Software Carousel affect
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM

Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:
>
> > For the past few days I have had a problem with the environment size
> > getting stuck on 256 bytes in my first Software Carousel session, the
> > one I run System Manager in
>
> How are you getting to the DOS prompt in that session #1 in
> order to play with and check environment space?  If you are
> going to DOS with SysMgr running (such as with Ctrl-Lotus),
> then that explains your trouble.  SysMgr is opening up a DOS
> box for you and giving that DOS box only 256 bytes of
> environment space.
>
> It is SysMgr that is holding you tight to 256 bytes.  It has
> nothing to do with SC.  Try terminating SysMgr in session 1 to
> get to a real DOS prompt given to you by SC and check the
> environment space.  I'll bet it is larger and corresponds to
> the settings you have in SC or are in place before SC loads.

I wouldn't be surprized if it was System Manager but it only does
it in a software carousel session. If I close SC and run SM I
don't get any errors and I can set as many variables as I like
in a dos box under system manager. To test it I have been using
a dos box since if I run a dos program that sets variables under
SM it will run in a dos box. It seems like a bug to me, a conflict
between SC and SM. I would be curious to know why it only happens
in a SC session since it seems like SC has some sort of environmental
setting. (at least there is one when I run SCCONFIG).

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Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM

Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:
>
> > Actually, if you run the batteries down in the LX until it will no longer
> > turn on ( i.e. just beeps) the battery level is low enough to recondition
> > the batteries right in the LX. This is perfectly safe for data as long
> > as you regularly change the backup battery when it is below 2.98 volts
>
> I think that is very bad advice to give to people.  It puts a
> great strain on the backup battery and runs a high risk of
> trashing the C: drive.
>
> You can follow that proceedure if you wish, that is your
> right.  But we should always give out safe and conservative
> advice here because we never know the skil & knowledge levels
> of the people listening.  Always practice safe advising.
> <grin>
>
> It is just as easy and 1 million times safer to discharge
> batteries outside of the palmtop in a $0.59 flashlight.
>
> .... just my humble opinion.

An interesting opinion<g>. I regularly run my batteries flat when using
Ni-Cads and NiMHs and have never trashed my C: drive or had my backup battery go
flat. I change my backup battery regularly though and monitor the voltage
closely using battlog. I feel if proper precautions are taken this is
perfectly safe advice to give and it will help the batteries last longer.
Certainly there are dangers to simply removing the main batteries to discharge
them. I did that for a while. I have had my LX lockup so badly doing this
I had to do hard resets and one
time it did trash my C: drive. So my way, I have had no trashed C: drive. Your
way I have trashed the C: drive. Which way seems safer?

John

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:43:28 +0200
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>     Rather than duplicate anyone else's work...does anyone have a set
>of PE macros for inserting HTML tags they could send me?


A candidate for the SUPER-site? Even I might start writing html then... :-)


Have a nice day!

Franklin

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I would love that for memo is available.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----

Hi All!

     Rather than duplicate anyone else's work...does anyone have a set
of PE macros for inserting HTML tags they could send me?

TIA & Cheers,

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Hello all of you. I'm kind of in a bind. I received a call from Metricom
yesterday, and looks like I've "won" a free Ricochet modem (I gave my name on
their website under "Special Offers"), but in order to use it, I have to buy an
extra serial cable (39.95$) and one year of service (299$). Problem is, I don't
use my LX *that* much when I'm driving around the city (San Francisco).

So what I'm trying to find out is, is it really worth it? I mean, I could take
the modem, pay for everything, and use it for a year, but what kind of
performance you you get? I probably would not be using it more than 3-4
hours/month (and even that's a lot). Please help me find "on the road" uses I
can't think about and make it worth the 25$/month it represents.

If it turns out I won't take the offer, it appears I can transfer the deal to
someone else, so if anyone's interested...  (the coverage area is only the Bay
Area for now -- I think).

Thanks,

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> As a silly example, if a person asks me what time it is, I
> should not explain to him how to build a watch.  Then he might
> think that the only way to tell time is to built his own
> watch.

That's the Martha Stewart way!!!! (g)

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:46:56 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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With all the discussion about battery usage, and disposal, please rememebr
that NiCad's (I don't know about alkalines and NiMH) can (should?) be
recylced at places like Radio Shack, and many cellular telephone dealers.

This also goes for the batteries in your portable phone, cellular phone, etc.

However long they last, dispose of them properly.


Alan

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Thanks to a resourceful listmember, I now have a copy of icndsp.exe and
dateman.exe..... now who is up to the task of deciphering the Japanese =
docs?
I don't even know if the program can be distributed, because I can't read
the docs <g>. If anyone wants to look at the docs, let me know and I'll =
mail
'em to you!

Jeff

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Subject:      Database files and categories

Hi list;
Anyone familar enough with DB files to answer this question.

I have two files: A and B.

In file A, there are categories 1,3,5.
In file B I have categories 2 and 4.

The question is: Would merging the files give me 1,2,3,4,5
or garbage?

Thanks a bunch,
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:46:56 -0500, Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET> wrote:

> However long they last, dispose of them properly.

Uh..... I think the list is turning politically correct <g>. I gotta =
email
Rush Limbaugh and let him know..... he will be so disapointed!

Jeff

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Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net
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Item Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
     Hello John,

     I understand that removing the main batteries (for any reason) can
     place the C: drive at risk if the backup battery is not in the best of
     condition.  The longer the LX is running on backup, the more likely it
     is to have a problem.

     I don't understand why removing them to discharge and recharge them is
     more of a problem than running them dead in the palmtop, then
     recharging them.  Did you leave the LX living on the backup while you
     did the discharge and recharge things out of the LX, or did you put a
     good charged set into it while discharging and recharging the used set
     in the flashlight/charger?  I would be concerned that I had fading
     batteries when I checked it, later they would be dead with the LX
     having had to live on the backup too long to support the life of the
     LX.  Running the batteries dead in the palmtop seems risky to me.

     It seems safer to me to have known good main batteries in the LX as
     much as possible, letting it live on backups only while changing the
     weak batteries for good ones, maybe a minute or so.

     I use alkalines (disposables, 1 pair per month), changing them at the
     first low battery warning (usually after I finish what I am doing at
     the time) and haven't had any problems due to batteries.  I have had
     one dead LX experience, HP service couldn't give me a reason for it.
     I was running on the HP adapter at the time.  Good for those of you
     who use rechargables for the environment.  I, personally, feel better
     about using a good quality alkaline than worrying about charge levels,
     discharge curves, charge memory, my memory, and stuff like that.

     Sally
     The usual stuff about my opinions are not the company's, YMMV, ect.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...


You said...

Certainly there are dangers to simply removing the main batteries to discharge
them. I did that for a while. I have had my LX lockup so badly doing this
I had to do hard resets and one
time it did trash my C: drive. So my way, I have had no trashed C: drive. Your
way I have trashed the C: drive. Which way seems safer?

John

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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: PE macros for HTML tags
Comments: To: omnilist@elektro.cmhnet.org
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One is already available for Memo. Its called DOCHTML.

DOCHTML is a DOS application that will convert an HP 100/200LX memo file
directly into HTML. Copyrighted freeware.

Its available on the SUPER Site: dochtm11.zip


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Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> Wrote:

I would love that for memo is available.

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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:29:32 -0700
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From:         Tim Shephard <tim_shephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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I 'won' it too.  But I turned it down...

-Tim
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From: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...


>Hello all of you. I'm kind of in a bind. I received a call from Metricom
>yesterday, and looks like I've "won" a free Ricochet modem (I gave my name
on
>their website under "Special Offers"), but in order to use it, I have to
buy an
>extra serial cable (39.95$) and one year of service (299$). Problem is, I
don't
>use my LX *that* much when I'm driving around the city (San Francisco).
>
>So what I'm trying to find out is, is it really worth it? I mean, I could
take
>the modem, pay for everything, and use it for a year, but what kind of
>performance you you get? I probably would not be using it more than 3-4
>hours/month (and even that's a lot). Please help me find "on the road" uses
I
>can't think about and make it worth the 25$/month it represents.
>
>If it turns out I won't take the offer, it appears I can transfer the deal
to
>someone else, so if anyone's interested...  (the coverage area is only the
Bay
>Area for now -- I think).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Philippe
>
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:40:36 -0400
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              Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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The area of coverage for the Ricochert Modem is:

Bay Area of San Francisco
Seattle
Washington D.C.

About a dozen colleges
About a dozen major airports


Sincerely,
Cliff Crittenden

> If it turns out I won't take the offer, it appears I can transfer the deal to
> someone else, so if anyone's interested...  (the coverage area is only the Bay
> Area for now -- I think).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:58:48 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...

That's why Billy Ockham invented the razor :)

>> If there are simple facts about how to treat your batteries, why
>> shouldn't they be discussed on the list.
>
>I have no problem discussing anything here.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:26:52 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      HELP!!! My LX runs away!
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Hi friends,

something very strange happens with my 200 LX (no double speed, no
other hardware upgrade; 4MB German unit):

Since today I noticed that it falls in sleep mode not after 3 minutes
(as in SXPRO set), but after a much shorter time (abt. 1 minute).
I looked at the battery voltage, but it was OK (2.55V).

Now I had a llok at the clock in the upper right corner of Post/LX,
just to know what time it is...... and the clock runs very fast!!!
The seconds are running about 10 times as fsat as they should!

While I'm creating this message (in PE) the blinking of the cursor and
of the 'save' label of the F10 key are also very fast.

What is happening here?

The only thing I remember what maybe a time regarding thing could cause
was that I loaded Stefan Peichl's SLEEPON in one work area, loaded the
game Commander Keen 4 after this (in the same WA - Keen seems to need
SLEEPON, only of SLEEPON is loaded I can switch off the palmtop while
KEEN is running), left Keen again and switched to WA3 (Post/LX).

Now I'm here and see my LX's time runninng away...

BTW: If the palmtop switched itself off (or I switched it off) and then
on again it jumps back in time to the real time again, after it ran
forward in time some minutes or even some hours!

Do I have a time machine??? ;-)

GTX
daniel

-----

P.S.: When I tried to send this message with Post/LX I got an error
message 'interrupt overrun error...' (ths error appeared only for a
very short time, so I don't remember the exact message).
Then the machine hung up.
After a Ctrl-Shift-On all seems to be okay again.
Does anyone have an idea what was up here?

Thanks in advance!


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Germany
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:09:17 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Battery charging
Comments: To: SALLY_COOPER@HP-Corvallis-om1.om.hp.com

Hi Sally

There is a bug in the 200LX that can cause it to lockup if you pull the main
batteries out if you don't have the ac connected even with a perfectly good
backup battery. That was one of the very first things I found out about these
things from this list<g>. I confirmed it with the HP helpline and my own experience.

Change your setup to rechargeables and pull your mains
with no ac and see if it locks up on you<g>. Just kidding you might wipe your
C: drive. Problem is its a really bad lockup and can easily cause the c to intialize.
Anyway, even with the battery "very low" warning if you shut it off right
away you have plenty of time to connect the ac. Of course it depends on the type
of battery you use on how much time you actually have.

I would not recommend using a modem or flash card or any heavy disk
writing past the "battery low" message, anything that requires a lot of current.
I only let'em get totally flat when I'm going to recondition them, not every day,
so of course I take proper precautions.

John

SALLY_COOPER@HP-Corvallis-om1.om.hp.com writes:
> Item Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
>      Hello John,
>
>      I understand that removing the main batteries (for any reason) can
>      place the C: drive at risk if the backup battery is not in the best of
>      condition.  The longer the LX is running on backup, the more likely it
>      is to have a problem.
>
>      I don't understand why removing them to discharge and recharge them is
>      more of a problem than running them dead in the palmtop, then
>      recharging them.  Did you leave the LX living on the backup while you
>      did the discharge and recharge things out of the LX, or did you put a
>      good charged set into it while discharging and recharging the used set
>      in the flashlight/charger?  I would be concerned that I had fading
>      batteries when I checked it, later they would be dead with the LX
>      having had to live on the backup too long to support the life of the
>      LX.  Running the batteries dead in the palmtop seems risky to me.
>
>      It seems safer to me to have known good main batteries in the LX as
>      much as possible, letting it live on backups only while changing the
>      weak batteries for good ones, maybe a minute or so.
>
>      I use alkalines (disposables, 1 pair per month), changing them at the
>      first low battery warning (usually after I finish what I am doing at
>      the time) and haven't had any problems due to batteries.  I have had
>      one dead LX experience, HP service couldn't give me a reason for it.
>      I was running on the HP adapter at the time.  Good for those of you
>      who use rechargables for the environment.  I, personally, feel better
>      about using a good quality alkaline than worrying about charge levels,
>      discharge curves, charge memory, my memory, and stuff like that.
>
>      Sally
>      The usual stuff about my opinions are not the company's, YMMV, ect.
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
>
>
> You said...
>
> Certainly there are dangers to simply removing the main batteries to discharge
> them. I did that for a while. I have had my LX lockup so badly doing this
> I had to do hard resets and one
> time it did trash my C: drive. So my way, I have had no trashed C: drive. Your
> way I have trashed the C: drive. Which way seems safer?
>
> John
>

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:57:13 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
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In a message dated 6/8/1999 04:47:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aperes@MCS.NET
writes:

> With all the discussion about battery usage, and disposal, please remember
>  that NiCad's (I don't know about alkalines and NiMH) can (should?) be
>  recylced at places like Radio Shack, and many cellular telephone dealers.
>
>  This also goes for the batteries in your portable phone, cellular phone,
etc.
>
>
>  However long they last, dispose of them properly.
>
Why does this kind on Al Gore/Unibomber environment-in-the-ballance comment
never draw a "Keep the Politics off the list," comment?  I find it _much_
more objectionable than a simple Good-bye from a guy who is being bombed into
the stone age.

But that's just my opinion.  I could be wrong -- and I did let a dozen
similar comments go by before offering it.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:20:05 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HELP!!! My LX runs away!
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:26:52 GMT, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> =
wrote:

> Do I have a time machine??? ;-)

I have no idea what is wrong, but I think you should patent the technology
and sell it <g>!

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:29:44 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>      I don't understand why removing them to discharge and recharge them
is
>      more of a problem than running them dead in the palmtop, then
>      recharging them.  Did you leave the LX living on the backup while you
>      did the discharge and recharge things out of the LX, or did you put a
>      good charged set into it while discharging and recharging the used
set
>      in the flashlight/charger?  I would be concerned that I had fading
>      batteries when I checked it, later they would be dead with the LX
>      having had to live on the backup too long to support the life of the
>      LX.  Running the batteries dead in the palmtop seems risky to me.

I believe what John is talking about is the artificial limit of 2.0 volts
before the palmtop will no longer turn on and it will just beep at you when
you try to turn it on again.  I tend to run my batteries that low as well
and then recharge them.  I actually turn off the low battery warning and let
the voltage get low enough for it not to come back on again.  I don't
recommend it for everyone, but I do it that way because I run ABC/LX and can
see what my voltage level is at any given time.

The palmtop circuitry for regulating the battery voltage seems to work fine
down to that point, but you need to make sure that your rechargable
batteries will do that same.  I have only done this in combination with the
batteries that I carry.  I never take them out of the palmtop and therefore
I had to come up with a way to discharge them properly.  They don't have
tips on the positive end so they won't charge in most external chargers.

Cheers,
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:44:15 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Battery charging

Mack Baggette writes:
> >      I don't understand why removing them to discharge and recharge them
> is
> >      more of a problem than running them dead in the palmtop, then
> >      recharging them.  Did you leave the LX living on the backup while you
> >      did the discharge and recharge things out of the LX, or did you put a
> >      good charged set into it while discharging and recharging the used
>
> I believe what John is talking about is the artificial limit of 2.0 volts
> before the palmtop will no longer turn on and it will just beep at you when
> you try to turn it on again.  I tend to run my batteries that low as well
> and then recharge them.  I actually turn off the low battery warning and let
> the voltage get low enough for it not to come back on again.  I don't
> recommend it for everyone, but I do it that way because I run ABC/LX and can

Yep. Although I usually go down to 2.1 volts and its for deep discharging
when my batteries have lost some capacity.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:15:55 -0700
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Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> Thanks to a resourceful listmember, I now have a copy of icndsp.exe and
> dateman.exe.....

What are they

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:11:00 -0400
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Comments: To: qman@EARTHLINK.NET
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What I meant is not a conversion utility but one that will allow me to enter
the tags while writing the code.  That is convert it into an HTML editor by
using macros to enter the tags.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones, Jr. <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: PE macros for HTML tags


> One is already available for Memo. Its called DOCHTML.
>
> DOCHTML is a DOS application that will convert an HP 100/200LX memo file
> directly into HTML. Copyrighted freeware.
>
> Its available on the SUPER Site: dochtm11.zip
>
>
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>
> Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> Wrote:
>
> I would love that for memo is available.
>
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>
> HTH
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:31:49 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> Obligatory on-topic question:  Anyone find a source of Li-ion AA batteries
> yet?  (not the Energizer throw-away kind, the rechargable kind)

IIRC, I don't think that's possible, as they Li-Ion batteries run at
3.6V/cell.  I think the Energizer Lithium batteries are just that; Lithium
only (like a watch battery).

But I could be wrong.


Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:38:47 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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> If it turns out I won't take the offer, it appears I can transfer the deal to
> someone else, so if anyone's interested...  (the coverage area is only the Bay
> Area for now -- I think).

The ricochet's pretty cool technology.  I'd love to use it; but they don't
cover my area (Morgan Hill - Gilroy).  But... they are supposed to be
"plumbing" Morgan Hill sometime this year.  It works well, if you're in a
coverage area (it's based on amateur packet radio).

Bill


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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:34:40 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>

I have almost the exact same strategy, except I don't even bother with
the trickle charge (cause I didn't want to waste the memory that
batset takes as a TSR when you run it with the timer switch).  My
batteries get blasted whenever I have the palmtop plugged in, but I
don't care - if they die (hasn't happened yet in over a year), I'll buy
some more from Thaddeus.  I never even worry about batteries, and am
even considering removing battlog from my autoexec, cause I never look
at it.

Bennett Todd writes:
> My strategy is simple, so very simple:
>
> (1) I use the builtin charger in my 100/200LX; it's the only recharger I have.
>     I never take the batteries out; the battery cover never comes off.
>
> (2) When I buy the batteries and they are brand new and dead, I run 'em
>     through a couple of the LX's 6-hour high-current charge cycles to mostly
>     fill 'em up.
>
> (3) Once they have gotten their initial fill-up, I install batset (available
>     from S.U.P.E.R.Ý1¨), with the line in autoexec.bat:
>
>         batset /c/t=00:01
>
>     so that from then on, whenever I plug the LX in, it gets only one minute
>     (the minimum supported) of high-current charge, and immediately drops down
>     to trickle. I plug the LX in whenever I'm at my desk or at home asleep.
>
> (4) When an exception comes up, and I can't charge for some time --- e.g. like
>     last sommer when I was sailing for a couple of weeks --- when I get home,
>     I give it a 6-hour cycle just to make sure it's well off dead.
>
> (5) I carry around a mini-maglite with two of the single-user
>     infinite-shelflife Lithiums, as a backups in case my batteries ever do go
>     dead, but it hasn't happened yet.

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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:38:47 -0700, Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> =
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> (it's based on amateur packet radio).

The (A)X.25 protocol?

Jeff

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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:15:55 -0700, Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net> =
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> What are they

   DATEMAN.EXE and ICNDSP.EXE, "DATECHECK & INT TRAP Manager"
   created by Mr. Tabikuro, will simulate the display of
   Extensions / Control Panels icons on HP100/200LX during
   start-up.  If for some reason the date is reset to 1980/01/01
   or if IntTrapHalt error occurs, it readjusts the date and
   shows a familiar bomb icon.

The above says it all <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:57:23 -0400
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I have seen the same phenomenon, a clock that runs 4 to 5 times faster th=
an
normal.  As I recall, I was trying out an old DOS clock program which ran=

fine but, if I left it running in one SC session and switched back to a
SysMgr SC session, the second hand in the analog clock in Appt Book was
really ticking off the seconds. The cursor was a blur rather than a blink=
. =

The simplest way to rectify the situation is to reset the machine with
CTRL-ALT-DEL.  Oh yes, don't save any files while this is happening. I
recall that I corrupted a couple of data files before I caught on.

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Without RTFM'ing, my guess is that the data would be merged and the
categories of the destination file would be preserved. You might have to
recreate the categories from the other file. I don't think categories are=

merged.   Hope someone proves me wrong. How about it, Al?

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:20:03 -0600
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Here is my 2 cents worth. Linear power supplies are generally more reliable,
less components. Switching supplies usually have more stress, especially FET's
or whatever does the switching. Check what goes bad when they fail. If the
linear supply is regulated, the IC or active part of the regulating circuit
usually is the first to go. Otherwise diodes tend to fail.

For a 230 watt linear computer supply however, just hook up your arc welder.
The heavy duty windings will provide sufficient regulation.

Most of what I think of at Radio Shack that one of our gentlement got so upset
about -- I think of them as a small transformer, bridge rectifier and filter
capacitor -- most of them are unregulated -- regulation is very poor!!! I
wouldn't power my LX with one unless it was a life or death situation.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Steve Dowell wrote:

> Is there anything special about the AC adapter for the LX? Mine's
> looking pretty beat up.
> Is there any problem with just picking up a replacement at Radio Shack?
>
> Steve
>
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:32:26 +0800
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Stan, the ability to work on 110-220 volts is very crucial for me because
of my travel patterns. I am looking for a replacement and could not find
any information about this HP adapter from HP's sites. Any idea who sells it?

TIA
Anand.


At 02:52 PM 08-06-1999 Tuesday -0400, Stan wrote:
>I would recommend that you buy another HP AC adapter, though.
>They are small, light, run cool, have the folding plug, are
>regulated to 12 volts, work on 110-220 volts and accept 50-60
>Hz.

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Hi Gang,

It seems a few of you need one but I have only one to spare....(I have 3 and
need only 2).  Would $30.00 be reasonable?

Thanks,

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:23:07 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: SLEEPON & WORKS


> Looks like Works is another candidate for the SLEEPON TSR.

I have tried SLEEPON with MsWorks 3 for DOS, and I can report that it has no
effect.  Any other thoughts?

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:03:23 -0500
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I would like to thank Paul Haroun for his LXMusic software. Believe it or
not, I went to college on a Dean's Fine Arts Academic scholarship and was =
a
music education major..... don't ask how I ended up in law enforcement
because that's a whole other story <g>. I actually sat down and composed =
a
couple of little melodies tonight.... that's something I had not done in
years. Now if we could just get the LX to do polyphonic notes <g>.

Jeff

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This is another plea to the list to see if there is anyone fluent in
Japanese that could convert some docs for dateman.exe and icndsp.exe <g>. =
I
have been playing around with them a little bit tonight and have managed =
to
get dateman to work somewhat (I think) =3D)

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:15:12 -0600
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Here is a stupid idea, but I'll throw it out and watch the flack!

If Li-Ion cells put out 3.6V, how about one 3.6V LiIon normal direction and a
not dead 1.2 NiMH or NiCad in reverse direction. 3.6V - 1.2V = 2.4V or about the
right oprating voltage!

So the 3.6V cell runs the LX and charges one 1.2V cell at the same time! When
the first 1.2V cell is charged, put in a second. By the time the 3.6V cell is
low, you have two charged 1.2V cells that can now run the LX. Let the battery
watch programs figure that one out!

Maybe I should have put this under fluff!

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Bill Childers wrote:

> > Obligatory on-topic question:  Anyone find a source of Li-ion AA batteries
> > yet?  (not the Energizer throw-away kind, the rechargable kind)
>
> IIRC, I don't think that's possible, as they Li-Ion batteries run at
> 3.6V/cell.  I think the Energizer Lithium batteries are just that; Lithium
> only (like a watch battery).
>
> But I could be wrong.
>
> Bill Childers
> South Valley Consulting
>
> -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
> rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!
>
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> The (A)X.25 protocol?

Yeah, a variation of it.  I met the inventor of it once, he's a real nice
guy.  Metrocom (the Ricochet company) is located not too far from our
branch office in Los Gatos.

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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:15:12 -0600, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> =
wrote:

> If Li-Ion cells put out 3.6V, how about one 3.6V LiIon normal direction =
and a
> not dead 1.2 NiMH or NiCad in reverse direction. 3.6V - 1.2V =3D 2.4V =
or about the
> right oprating voltage!

I can imagine all the EE's on the list 'freaking out' after reading that
<g>!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:11:16 +0200
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Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...

Heh, heh. Why not just solder a wire across the empty slot? The extra .3
volts won't hurt anything. But how would you charge your battery? Li-Ion
need to be temperature monitored while charging...

Bob Meyer writes:
> Here is a stupid idea, but I'll throw it out and watch the flack!
>
> If Li-Ion cells put out 3.6V, how about one 3.6V LiIon normal direction and a
> not dead 1.2 NiMH or NiCad in reverse direction. 3.6V - 1.2V = 2.4V or about the
> right oprating voltage!
>
> So the 3.6V cell runs the LX and charges one 1.2V cell at the same time! When
> the first 1.2V cell is charged, put in a second. By the time the 3.6V cell is
> low, you have two charged 1.2V cells that can now run the LX. Let the battery
> watch programs figure that one out!
>
> Maybe I should have put this under fluff!
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
>
> Bill Childers wrote:
>
> > > Obligatory on-topic question:  Anyone find a source of Li-ion AA batteries
> > > yet?  (not the Energizer throw-away kind, the rechargable kind)
> >
> > IIRC, I don't think that's possible, as they Li-Ion batteries run at
> > 3.6V/cell.  I think the Energizer Lithium batteries are just that; Lithium
> > only (like a watch battery).
> >
> > But I could be wrong.
> >
> > Bill Childers
> > South Valley Consulting
> >
> > -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
> > rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!
> >
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Rod Whitby wrote:
> Telnet/LX (written by Andreas) is a freeware companion program for
> WWW/LX (www.dasoft.com).  As far as I know, no claim has been made
> that it does full VT100 emulation, but Andreas has said that he will
> make it do full VT100 emulation if possible (and if someone points out
> where it does not emulate VT100 correctly).

Not necessarily a FULL implementation of VT100 is my goal (currently,
it does the MOST COMMON VT100 sequences), but I will implement all
VT100 sequences for which somebody tells me that they are actually
used somewhere. I don't intend to implement all exotic stuff such as
turning on and off the keyboard LEDs nor powering down the terminal
etc.

Thanks for the clarification regarding LXTELNET and TELNET/LX!

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>An interesting opinion<g>. I regularly run my batteries flat when using
>Ni-Cads and NiMHs and have never trashed my C: drive or had my backup
>battery go flat. I change my backup battery regularly though and monitor=

>the voltage

Problem: you cannot run the battery flat in the LX -- your LX will die
with some 77% of full power left in the battery!

As I understand it: to use prolonged fast-charge (> 6 hrs), you should
discharge the batteries completely to 0%. Otherwise trickle-charging is
better. =


>I have almost the exact same strategy, except I don't even bother with
>the trickle charge (cause I didn't want to waste the memory that
>batset takes as a TSR when you run it with the timer switch).  My

Then use TRICKLE from the CHARGE.ZIP package. It is not a TSR and it is
tiny (98 bytes -- well, take up 512 bytes on the C-drive).

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:49:22 -0700
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To the several folks who responded to my previous post, (Andreas, Peniel,
Jeff & John) thank you for your suggestions.  I have tried to incorporate
them into my setup, however I'm losing ground.  I installed the Pal Edit
files (pe.exe, pe.config, pe.doc, pe.mac, pe.icn, etc.) in C:\pe, hoping I
could solve my problem of accessing a text editor from Post/LX.  FYI,
Post/LX and WWW/LX are installed in F:\x

Initially I could dial into my isp and connect, web surf (sort of!) and get
a small amount of email...however now I'm not able to dial in at all from
Post/LX ...I get the statement: "error: not enough memory or disk space.for
memory swap", and when I try to connect from WWW/LX,  it dials, and
attempts to connect, however I get  the following:

Starting PPP Negotiation
Negotiating LCP (several up & down arrows) Done
Negotiating IPCP (couple up & down arrows) CHAP....(several up & down
arrows) Got LCP Terminate
(2 up arrows) Aborting!
Hanging up...
Exiting WWW/LX
Press any key to exit from dos

My 2 mb F Drive (modem card w/2mb on board) has 851,968  bytes free
The C Drive of my 2mb  200lx has 438,272 bytes free

seems like there should be suffiecient space; perhaps maxdos isn't
"maximizing"?

My autoexec file is as follows:

@echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;c:\x;c:\pe;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;f:\;f:\x
Rem assign e:=a:
d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1
c:\x\maxdos.com -l -wc:\temp
Rem call d:\bin\llras
f:
cd\x
Rem nofiddle
200

I have placed Pal Edit-related files, maxdos, and swap file on drive C as
suggested.

John, I had already tried leaving an empty | symbol at the end of the path
statement in the Post/LX  setup, but it didn't help the situation.

I'd really appreciate some additional help if anyone has the time.

TIA,

Al Creswell

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:52:28 +0100
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> >  that NiCad's (I don't know about alkalines and NiMH) can (should?) be
> >  recylced at places like Radio Shack, and many cellular telephone dealers.
> >
> >  This also goes for the batteries in your portable phone, cellular phone,
> etc.
> >
> >
> >  However long they last, dispose of them properly.
> >
> Why does this kind on Al Gore/Unibomber environment-in-the-ballance comment
> never draw a "Keep the Politics off the list," comment?  I find it _much_
> more objectionable than a simple Good-bye from a guy who is being bombed int
> o
> the stone age.
> But that's just my opinion.  I could be wrong -- and I did let a dozen
> similar comments go by before offering it.

Hi Lynn,

As I was the first who dared to use the dirty word "environment"
here, I have to comment. I apologize to all people who do not
like to see this kind of debate on the list. Stop reading now.

First, I don't mind you dumping your batteries whereever you
want, just wouldn't like to be your neighbour.

Further, I don't know what environmental issues have to do with
politics at all. To refer to a current case in Europe: Feed your
baby with toxic chicken from Belgium and see how political it's
reactions will be (no, don't do it). People who put waste oil
into chicken feed deserve being compared to terrorists like the
Unabomber, not the person on who's message you have been
commenting on. Maybe they just wanted to make some extra money
or maybe they just wanted to demonstrate that they are no
members of the "Al Gore/Unabomber"-fraction.

Pardon me if my message is as unbalanced as yours. I am no
environmentalist (though I live there - don't know where you
live) and no political extremist (in your eyes, maybe), but I
cannot see how a person is being condemned just for calling to
put your waste batteries where they belong, though I also know
that it was nothing new to most people on the list. It was just
the mentioning of the Unabomber which drove me nuts. Can't
comment on Al Gore too much, as I am german :). And by the way I
am also aware that more people got and still get killed by NATO-
bombs than by belgian chicken, to be very cynic.

Again, pardon me,

Reinhard




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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:19:36 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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From:         Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
Subject:      Re: X-Finder / Memo as Editor
Comments: To: qman@earthlink.net
In-Reply-To:  <199906081849.LAA17820@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Qman,

it' really bewitched, it does'nt work. I forgot to add the m in my post,
but it was already in my finder.env. I also tried to replace "enter" with
"F10", everytime the same effect, the process stucks, waiting to push
enter manually. I deleted #Memo, which is as far as I know only a
comment, but this naturally has no effect too. I even tried it with the
keycode for enter, the 1C0D, does'nt work. I also deleted memoed.env,
does'nt change anything. I don't want to give up, so, does'nt have anyone
else (German Palmtops) have problems using MEMO as X-Finder-Editor?

Cheers, Axel

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Phone : +49(0)30-4646 7020
Fax   : +49(0)30-4646 7025

On 8 Jun 1999 qman@earthlink.net wrote:

>
> Hi Axel,
>
> Try this line, I added a "m" after the "$" in your line and replaced enter
> with F10. See if this well work.
>
> also you can remove the "#Memo" at the end of the line
>
> %e ,b800  ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{F10}
>
>
>
>     -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------
>
>
> Hi QMan,
>
> finally I succeded nearly with the following:
>
> #Editor Setting
> %e    ,b800   ,$c %p%c;$ {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}    #Memo
>
> This is similar to what You suggested, but not specified for
> file-extensions. I can choose a text- or doc-file in the file-list-screen
> of x-finder, point a file,  press F9 to edit. Then memo opens and stuffs
> the file-name in the file-name-window of the open-file-dialogue-window.
> Then I have to manually press enter to open the file, eventhough I
> configured {enter} in filer.env. How can I force the process to enter itself?
>
> And as You proposed, "custom" {F7} does not work correct, it always loads
> the last content of the keyboard-buffer in the file-open-dialogue of memo.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:30:27 -0800
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      TaskBar?
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Right off hand does anybody know how to clear the document history in TaskBar?

I have (2) mileage.wk1 entries at the bottom of the menu that needs to be
remove.


Regards,


Qman...
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:35:11 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!! My LX runs away
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> Since today I noticed that it falls in sleep mode not after 3 minutes
> (as in LXPRO set), but after a much shorter time (abt. 1 minute).
>
> Now I had a look at the clock in the upper right corner of Post/LX,
> just to know what time it is...... and the clock runs very fast!!!
>
> What is happening here?

You ran a game (most likely Commander Keen 4) which reprogrammed
the 8253 timer chip, so that the timer 0 interrupt INT08 is not
only invoked 18.2 timer per second but 50 timer per second for example.

Any actions relying on the timer tick 'run' faster now, like
the clock, sleep modes ...

The 8253 timer chip also controls disk operation read/writes.
If you changed that timer, it is more than likely that you
corrupt the media!

Because SC only replaces memory regions, but not different
hardware settings on the ports, you have the same hardware
configuration in every SC work area. How should SC know,
that a program executed for example:
...
mov al,54
out 43h,al
mov ax,1193
out 40h,al
mov al,ah
out 40h,al
...
This code fragment changes the time of day count from 18.2
times a second to 1000 times a second.

Some applications like laboratory measurements need a more
precise timer that 18.2 per second.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:18:05 +0800
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From:         Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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A few questions about cc:mail:
1. How do I detach the file rcvd using cc:LXPOP? I had read the
help file and the HP manual, the only way I found was to press
the either "forward" or "reply", then select "Attach". It seems
to had detached the file, but where is the detached file?

2. How do I set up cc:mail so that it will auto wrap the line when
creating e-mail?

Questions about ccLXPOP:
1. Is it possible to hv it check multi e-mail account? If yes,
how?

TIA

Roger S.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:49:28 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Detection of data corruption
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Hi There!

Back to my favourite topic!

In the past we had discussed several 'safe practices' to avoid data
corruption. One nagging issue remained - how do we detect that there has
been some corruption in data? Longden Loo had described this as the central
issue. There was  a mention also of using some UNIX tools to create
incremental change files (Sorry - the details are not with me here -
archived at work..).

With a firm belief that every difficult problem usually has a simple
solution (though incorrect!)  I stumbled upon this -
Use the Synchronise feature of the Connectivity Pack to synchronise a copy
of the current file with the previous back-up. Of course all the changes
made to the files since the last backup will show up, but you can deal with
them easily. More importantly, all corrupted and missing data will also
become obvious. Then there is the painful, but well defined, task of
restoring only the missing/corrupted data.

Sounds too easy - now tell me what the downsides are .... I could think of
one - any differences in the notes are not adequately highlighted on the
synchronisation screen and you have to delve into the actual records
separately. Any others?

Anand.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:53:17 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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> Here is a stupid idea, but I'll throw it out and watch the flack!
>
> If Li-Ion cells put out 3.6V, how about one 3.6V LiIon normal direction and a
> not dead 1.2 NiMH or NiCad in reverse direction. 3.6V - 1.2V = 2.4V or about the
> right oprating voltage!

I don't know about your "strange" (g) recharge idea, but until the
lithium AA's from everready came out, for years there were lithium (also
NON-rechargeable) D and C cells which have great cold weather
performance.  They were DOUBLE voltage for single cells.  We would use
one C or D (depending on the application) in place of two and use a
dummy cell - just a spring or metal shunt to replace the other cell.  It
was lighter and had the long life we expect from the Everready's.

But that 3.6 voltage value could cause problems?????

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:53:26 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tech: More Post/LX Maxdos Questions/Problems
Comments: To: Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Don't know about all of your issues but I'll skip to this one:

> Starting PPP Negotiation
> Negotiating LCP (several up & down arrows) Done
> Negotiating IPCP (couple up & down arrows) CHAP....(several up & down
> arrows) Got LCP Terminate
> (2 up arrows) Aborting!
> Hanging up...
> Exiting WWW/LX

This just started happening to me with AT&T as my isp and only (that I
know of) on their Seattle node.  Portland, Ore and their 800 number work
(that is how I logged on this morning while Seattle is still out)  Just
in case that may be your new problem!

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:26:28 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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From:         Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM
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I'm sorry that I apparently offended so many of the list members with my
suggestion to t recycle NiCads. batteries.

It wasn't meant as anything political and I'm not a raging environmentalist.



Alan

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:32:34 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tech: More Post/LX Maxdos Questions/Problems
Comments: To: Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:49:22 -0700, Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.N=
ET> wrote:

> Post/LX ...I get the statement: "error: not enough memory or disk =
space.for

This is gonna sound crazy... and we have talked about it here before now,
but does the drive need defragmenting? Want me to post my autoexec.bat =
file
again?


Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:40:06 -0500
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              Bob <bob@YOURLAUNCHPAD.COM>
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From:         Bob <bob@YOURLAUNCHPAD.COM>
Subject:      Using LX with paperbased planner
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We use the Franklin Planner system at my place of work.
I'm trying to "meld" this system with the LX PIM applications.
Does anyone have any great ideas on how to make the 2 systems compliment
each other?  I hate the idea of double entry into the 2 systems, but have
come up with no methodologies yet that I find satisfactory.
Thanks for your input.
Bob

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:49:29 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Well, I may be the _only_ one, but I didn't know about recycling
before, so I found your note _very_ useful (and not particularly
`political', either). I guess one can see `politics' wherever one wants.

Anyway, thanks from at least one for mentioning it.

Alan Peres wrote:
>
> I'm sorry that I apparently offended so many of the list members with my
> suggestion to t recycle NiCads. batteries.
>
> It wasn't meant as anything political and I'm not a raging environmentalist.
>
> Alan
>
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:51:50 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      HP 95LX SDK?
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Hi there!

I am looking for the SDK (the software files) for HP 95LX. I have just
realized that it was not only the sound that was better on 95LX, but
also the MultiEdit field. So I want to try to create a good MultiEdit
field for 200LX and would need a copy of the 95LX SDK. If you have it, I
would highly appreciate if you could send me a copy.

Thanks and Regards,


Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:53:58 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Detection of data corruption
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Interesting topic. Seems to me there are (at least) three sources of
`data corruption' and that one needs to protect against each of them
in different ways. The method you suggest deals with some of them,
but I am a little unclear about how `all corrupted and missing data
will become obvious'---which seems to me to be the crux of the matter.

   (1) Original Corruption --- the original data item entered was wrong.
This includes a _very_ nasty case where the entering error is of a kind
that causes it to kill an unrelated correct entry somewhere else.
Entering a new event for next week (say on 12.6) as 12.6 (american)
may kill an entry on the 6th of December, without me noticing it
other than to wonder why the entry didn't show up next week. It may
be months before I realize that something is wrong down in December.

   (2) Synchronization Corruption --- the data is mis-synchronized
somehow. Older descriptions get written on top of newer ones. Sometimes
this happens by `pure mistake' but I find it most common right after
I have done a time zone change. If I don't handle the shift of time
zones exactly correctly, I sometimes end up with data entered earlier
having later date/time and thus screwing up underlying data records.

   (3) Physical Corruption --- this is corruption caused by the mis
behavior of other programs, mis copying or other mal treatment of
files (copying a binary file as ascii might be a common example) or
(rarely) bits just going bad over a long storage period. The most
virulent form of physical corruption is probably when an unrelated
file with the same name happens to get written on top of some data
by mistake. This can (a) be disasterous; and (b) take a long time to
notice if the data set is inactive.

I raise this taxonomy in the hope that you, or others, can add to it.
It seems to me that I take different actions to protect myself against
each of these potential problems, so the taxonomy has some use, at
least to me. I'd also be happy to discuss defenses against each of
the causes of data corruption. But without some taxonomy it is hard
to know just which problems particular defensive measures are designed
to deal with.

Anand Rao wrote:
>
> Hi There!
>
> Back to my favourite topic!
>
> In the past we had discussed several 'safe practices' to avoid data
> corruption. One nagging issue remained - how do we detect that there has
> been some corruption in data? Longden Loo had described this as the central
> issue. There was  a mention also of using some UNIX tools to create
> incremental change files (Sorry - the details are not with me here -
> archived at work..).
>
> With a firm belief that every difficult problem usually has a simple
> solution (though incorrect!)  I stumbled upon this -
> Use the Synchronise feature of the Connectivity Pack to synchronise a copy
> of the current file with the previous back-up. Of course all the changes
> made to the files since the last backup will show up, but you can deal with
> them easily. More importantly, all corrupted and missing data will also
> become obvious. Then there is the painful, but well defined, task of
> restoring only the missing/corrupted data.
>
> Sounds too easy - now tell me what the downsides are .... I could think of
> one - any differences in the notes are not adequately highlighted on the
> synchronisation screen and you have to delve into the actual records
> separately. Any others?
>
> Anand.
>

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:58:12 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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From:         Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Using LX with paperbased planner
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I noticed a file on the SUPER site that says:

Franklin Planner System for HP200LX (6 K) added 09/08/97
(Productivity)
Version 1.0 by Jim Doolittle
Franklin Planner System for HP200LX contains two HP databases to allow
you to integrate the Franklin system with your HP palmtop. Freeware.


I haven't used this, (I use my LX exclusively for Time Management) but
maybe you would find it helpful.

Steve


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Bob ÝSMTP:bob@YOURLAUNCHPAD.COM¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, June 09, 1999 7:40 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Using LX with paperbased planner

        We use the Franklin Planner system at my place of work.
        I'm trying to "meld" this system with the LX PIM applications.
        Does anyone have any great ideas on how to make the 2 systems
compliment
        each other?  I hate the idea of double entry into the 2 systems,
but have
        come up with no methodologies yet that I find satisfactory.
        Thanks for your input.
        Bob

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:00:48 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Broad brush first: Whenever I have a sync problem I look to see
what the prospects are for ASCII Import/Export. If whatever I am
trying to synchronize _has_ ASCII Import/Export facilities, then it
is usually a matter of a simple PERL program to get the job done.

If the software doesn't have ASCII Import/Export, I regard it as such
a severe deficiency, that I wouldn't want to touch it anyway as it
would be committing my data to a form which is unlikely to survive
on the decade horizion (none of my previous `planners' lasted more than
a decade, but my ASCII records go back to the early 1970s).

I recognize that in a corporate setting you may not have this option,
of course.

Bob wrote:
>
> We use the Franklin Planner system at my place of work.
> I'm trying to "meld" this system with the LX PIM applications.
> Does anyone have any great ideas on how to make the 2 systems compliment
> each other?  I hate the idea of double entry into the 2 systems, but have
> come up with no methodologies yet that I find satisfactory.
> Thanks for your input.
> Bob
>

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:04:26 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, hobchi@JUNO.COM
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Connectivity pack

Hi List;
Does anyone have a problem accessing MEMO
and/or the APPT book in the conectivity pack on
the desktop?   Trying to access it, it dspys msg:
NOT ENOUGH MEMORY TO OPEN APP.

Is there a work around?
How did you resolve this problem?

TIA,
yor pal al.......................................

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:05:39 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>> Why removeable media differant from fixed? According to the STK the LX
>> sees a second partition on a flash card as drive B

> I wonder if that information pertains to the 95LX more than
> the 100/200LX.  In the 95LX, it looked at the PCMCIA slot
> differently and did allow for two drive letters to be assigned
> to a card in the slot.

I had blithely assumed that drive B: on a palmtop was just a shadow of drive A:,
as it is on a desktop PC-XT with one floppy drive. This would have allowed us to
copy files from one flash card to another by entering COPY A:\*.* B:\ and
swapping flash cards at the prompt "Insert disk for drive B: and press any key
when ready."

Not the case, as Avi pointed out. So I'll stick my neck out again with this
theory:

Some of the hardware people have noted that the palmtop's PCMCIA controller
supports two cards. And in fact the 700LX actually uses this to run a second
(cellular modem) card which is mounted internally. I would therefore suggest
that B: is reserved to this second card slot, even though it is physically
missing on the 100LX and 200LX. Think of a two-floppy XT with one drive bay
sealed over.

Whether this is the case or not, I wouldn't think that A: or B: can be
partitioned, as someone had suggested, because the very assignment of either A:
or B: tells DOS (or BIOS?) that it's a removable drive (unless the palmtop DOS /
BIOS are *really* non-standard). The easy way around this, of course, would be
to ASSIGN or SUBST drive letters E: and above to drive A:.

Make sense? Or did I blow it again?

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Subject:      Database files and categories

Hi Ed
Thanks for your reply.  I hopefully thought someone out
there has the answer on the top of their head.  I really
can't just try it because it's about 5-10 hours of work.

Maybe someone can still help :)
I do a lot with databases and trying to improve them.
I have run into two problems I'd like a little help with.

The original one:
To merge two files (A and B) preserving subset categories:
1,3 with 2,4 making 1,2,3,4.

The second problem I can't understand in the terse manual
is to actually select criteria/options (in SSL statement form)
from two or more fields/headings for inclusion in a subset.
I'd like to see the actual (SSL) subset statement.

Thanks a bunch,
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Bob:
I used Franklin planners religiously for over 25 years.  After buying the
HP200LX I also went through the period of thinking that I had to combine and
integrate them.  After a few months, I ceased trying to do double-work and
went exclusively with the HP200 for all calendar functions.  I still have a
Franklin on my desk, I use the 2 page per day version and use the right
(diary) side to record what I did during the day and each voice mail message
I receive.  Although, this too, could be done on the HP200, it's just my
preference not too.

Consider that you wont have to bring forward your appointments every month.
Consider that you wont need to re-enter all your "to do's"

I could go on.  But in my opinion, dont integrate... ditch the archaic
Franklin planner system.

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Subject:      Re: Tech: More Post/LX Maxdos Questions/Problems
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

>> Post/LX ...I get the statement: "error: not enough memory or disk
space.for

>This is gonna sound crazy... and we have talked about it here before now,
>but does the drive need defragmenting?

It's not crazy.  I use Post/LX a lot and have found some success w/ a
combination of deleting some email, deleting some files on the disk AND
defragmenting.  Don't know how post/lx works in the "re-indexing" phase, but
it seems to have a need to borrow a decent sized piece of contiguous, free
space on the disk to do it.

That said, *IF* you're efficient w/ email ÝUNLIKE me¨ it's a pretty small
program and prob. doesn't need too much space.  I've got a lot of digested
messages and ones w/ big attachments that I still have to ferret out Ýalong
with over 500 messages in the In Box and 800+ in the "To Read or File" box
... I've since unsubscribed from a number of LISTSERVs!!¨.

HTH,

--tim

PS. When I get the number of messages down to a reasonable amount in the In
Box, the indexing process REALLY speeds up -- anyone know if I can tell
Post/LX to *NOT* index as often?  Maybe *I* could pick one time per day, or
at night, to let it re-index, etc....?


Tim Raymond
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Subject:      Re: Battery charging
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>

>I actually turn off the low battery warning and let
>the voltage get low enough for it not to come back on again.
>I don't recommend it for everyone, but ...

EEEK!

Two of my three *REAL* data crises were from surprise voltage drops .... got
the "low batt" warning a few times and then got something like a "batteries
are VERY low! <crash!>".  Lost all my "C:" data both times.  The only saving
grace is the "safety net" provided by the upgraded memory Ýit's a 2X, 64 MB
critter and I've been bailed out by the fact that the swapped drive, that
becomes "C:" isn't the C: that loses the data .... I know I can't rely on
this, but It's saved my biscuits twice!¨.

>I had to come up with a way to discharge them properly.  They don't have
>tips on the positive end so they won't charge in most external chargers.

Wow. What sort of bttys do you have?

I know, as technically adept as you are, you've taken the strongest cells
from batteries you've liked, duct-taped them into two "tubes" and put a
little bit of solder on the ends ;-)

--tim

PS. The other time I really lost everything was when I gave my old 100LX a
drink of coffee .... Can't imagine why it didn't have the same "morning-time
performance enhancement" I've come to expect.....


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Subject:      Re: Tech: More Post/LX Maxdos Questions/Problems

You need to have enough disk space free for the maxdos swap file. Maxdos,
if I remember right needs to swap to C: (someone correct me if that's wrong)
so you need to make sure you have the space free on C:


Al Creswell writes:
> To the several folks who responded to my previous post, (Andreas, Peniel,
> Jeff & John) thank you for your suggestions.  I have tried to incorporate
> them into my setup, however I'm losing ground.  I installed the Pal Edit
> files (pe.exe, pe.config, pe.doc, pe.mac, pe.icn, etc.) in C:\pe, hoping I
> could solve my problem of accessing a text editor from Post/LX.  FYI,
> Post/LX and WWW/LX are installed in F:\x
>
> Initially I could dial into my isp and connect, web surf (sort of!) and get
> a small amount of email...however now I'm not able to dial in at all from
> Post/LX ...I get the statement: "error: not enough memory or disk space.for
> memory swap", and when I try to connect from WWW/LX,  it dials, and
> attempts to connect, however I get  the following:
>
> Starting PPP Negotiation
> Negotiating LCP (several up & down arrows) Done
> Negotiating IPCP (couple up & down arrows) CHAP....(several up & down
> arrows) Got LCP Terminate
> (2 up arrows) Aborting!
> Hanging up...
> Exiting WWW/LX
> Press any key to exit from dos
>
> My 2 mb F Drive (modem card w/2mb on board) has 851,968  bytes free
> The C Drive of my 2mb  200lx has 438,272 bytes free
>
> seems like there should be suffiecient space; perhaps maxdos isn't
> "maximizing"?
>
> My autoexec file is as follows:
>
> @echo off
> prompt $p$g
> path c:\;c:\x;c:\pe;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;f:\;f:\x
> Rem assign e:=a:
> d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1
> c:\x\maxdos.com -l -wc:\temp
> Rem call d:\bin\llras
> f:
> cd\x
> Rem nofiddle
> 200
>
> I have placed Pal Edit-related files, maxdos, and swap file on drive C as
> suggested.
>
> John, I had already tried leaving an empty | symbol at the end of the path
> statement in the Post/LX  setup, but it didn't help the situation.
>
> I'd really appreciate some additional help if anyone has the time.
>
> TIA,
>
> Al Creswell
>
> Al
>
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Al, I'm undoubtedly missing the point (what's new, huh?) but what
happens if you add a `new' category to a DB? Is it a big deal?

My DB software is extremely simple, so `categories' are just `columns'
with `Yes/No' answers. When I merge I do it by temporarily adding
categories. That is to say, my first try would be to add 2,4 to A (or a
temporary copy of A) and add 1,3 to B (temporary) and then merge the
`new' A,B as they both have categories 1,2,3,4...

Of course, YM undoubtedly DV!

Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> Hi Ed
> Thanks for your reply.  I hopefully thought someone out
> there has the answer on the top of their head.  I really
> can't just try it because it's about 5-10 hours of work.
>
> Maybe someone can still help :)
> I do a lot with databases and trying to improve them.
> I have run into two problems I'd like a little help with.
>
> The original one:
> To merge two files (A and B) preserving subset categories:
> 1,3 with 2,4 making 1,2,3,4.
>
> The second problem I can't understand in the terse manual
> is to actually select criteria/options (in SSL statement form)
> from two or more fields/headings for inclusion in a subset.
> I'd like to see the actual (SSL) subset statement.
>
> Thanks a bunch,
> yor pal al.............................................

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I don't use MEMO much, but I do use APPT book in Connectivity pack
all the time. I have .ADBs that are 150k -> 300k and never get
a squawk out of the CPACK, so it must have something to do with your
setup.

I run CPACK by calling APP200.BAT, BTW. I don't know why, but it
seems to work fine...

Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> Hi List;
> Does anyone have a problem accessing MEMO
> and/or the APPT book in the conectivity pack on
> the desktop?   Trying to access it, it dspys msg:
> NOT ENOUGH MEMORY TO OPEN APP.
>
> Is there a work around?
> How did you resolve this problem?
>
> TIA,
> yor pal al.......................................
>

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Subject:      Re: Tech: More Post/LX Maxdos Questions/Problems

Jeff
>This is gonna sound crazy... and we have talked about
it here before now,  but does the drive need defragmenting?

I guess it will continued to be argued.  I do it for three
reasons.  Some apps need it, Its easier to recover belly
up files if they're contagious (says wide tie Norton), and
I'm a neat and tidy person.

Unless someone can say it categorically is a waste of time,
I still use a small efficient concantenator from ACE/Sunshine.
Pascal says it don't hurt and its a good bet.

yor pal al....................................................

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Subject:      Detection of data corruption

>In the past we had discussed several 'safe practices' to avoid
>data corruption. One nagging issue remained - how do we
>detect that there has been some corruption in data?

Without losing too much time and effort.
My two cents worth on your favourite topic!

1st cent: Go into suspected DB and scroll down from begining
to end. Any bad record will emit an error msg: cannot read record.
This can be done with a macro.

2nd cent: DOS has a util pgm to compare two files, I've never
ever used it but I suspect that it can be used for this purpose.

Now if someone can only give me two cents worth on how to
solve my database subset problems I'd be much oblidge...

TIA,
yor pal al.......................................................

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On 8 Jun 1999 15:26:21 -0700, d.hertrich@GMX.DE (Daniel Hertrich) wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
>... loaded the
> game Commander Keen 4 after this (in the same WA - Keen seems to need
> SLEEPON, only of SLEEPON is loaded I can switch off the palmtop while
> KEEN is running), left Keen again and switched to WA3 (Post/LX).
>
>
> GTX
> daniel

Ahh Commander Keen...where can I find these games. I remember I loved
them on my pc. How do they work on the Hp 200? Could you point me to
somewhere I could dowload Commander Keen 1-4? 4 was the last one was'nt
it? Is it still commercial or sharware now?

Thanks in advance..

--

Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
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Anyone who would like to xfer their 'free' Ricochet modem, please contact me.
I'm quite happy with mine, and know friends who are indeed interested.
And yes, it works great with the LX and desktops alike.

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Perhaps this will be more obfuscatory than expository (whew!): =

I noticed that the Ý-B-¨ drive shows up in Filer, but it doesn't do
anything. However, if you snag a copy of JOIN from DOS 5.0 you can join a=

directory to drive B:  Then when you open drive B: you'll get a listing o=
f
files in the directory.  I have not yet found a good use for this
undocumented behavior but maybe the information will be a piece of the
puzzle.
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Wed,  9 Jun 1999 11:59:46 -0500 (EST)

01h12m10s ago ...
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On 8 Jun 1999 15:26:21 -0700, d.hertrich@GMX.DE (Daniel Hertrich) =
wrote:
> ...
>
> Ahh Commander Keen...where can I find these games. I remember I loved
> them on my pc. How do they work on the Hp 200? Could you point me to
> somewhere I could dowload Commander Keen 1-4? 4 was the last one was'nt
> it? Is it still commercial or sharware now?
>

     See  http://games.hplx.net

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Wed,  9 Jun 1999 12:02:49 -0400 (EDT)

35m07s ago ...
On Wed,  9 Jun 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> You need to have enough disk space free for the maxdos swap file. =
Maxdos,
> if I remember right needs to swap to C: (someone correct me if that's =
wrong)
> so you need to make sure you have the space free on C:

Well, it doesn't NEED the swap file on C:  It can use the flash card,
but it gets painfully slow...   Best thing is to swap to EMS, but then
you need a big C: drive.

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> From: Yor Pal Al Ýmailto:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 8:49 AM
... snip ...
> The second problem I can't understand in the terse manual
> is to actually select criteria/options (in SSL statement form)
> from two or more fields/headings for inclusion in a subset.
> I'd like to see the actual (SSL) subset statement.

  Well, here's one I use in my phonebook:
        Category#"Landlording"|Title="lawncare"

  The above SSL statement produces a combined list of landlording and
lawncare entries.

  For a while, I was a landlord.  One of the things I occasionally needed
was to have a list of all landlord related items -and- lawncare providers.
I ran out of category space so I used the (rarely used) title field as an
infinitely extendable category field (without the dropdown list).  I marked
lawncare entries with "lawncare" in the title field.

  Does that help?  Or did you mean you don't understand how to use the
template screen to get more than one field into the SSL statement?  (The
answer to that is: Type one character in each field you want to use.  Press
the F2 (General) key.  It will give you the SSL edit screen which you can
freely edit to combine the fields in any order and with any criteria you
want...)

        .... JLS

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Subject:      Use of drive B: on a palmtop

For CIA and those who have a lot of confidential data.
>I noticed that the Ý-B-¨ drive shows up in Filer, but it
doesn't do anything.  If you use JOIN from DOS 5.0
you can join a directory to drive B:  Then when you
open drive B: you'll get a listing of files in the directory.

I have not yet found a good use for this undocumented
behavior but maybe the information will be a piece of the
>puzzle.     .ed.

Why not join F; to B:  If you don't carry a flash in slot A:
It would be another layer of complexity to anyone who
would purloin your LX and think they're smart and REBOOTs.
Certainly long enough time for you to call in your lost PINs.

The security idea is to put all drivers and utils on A: flash.
Everything works OK until rebooted then it needs A: flash.

yor pal al.............................


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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:17:13 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jesus Consuegra <jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES>
Subject:      Re: Detection of data corruption
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

      Hi, everybody:
      Does anybody have the pinout/internal wiring layout of HP5181-6642 and
      HP5181-6640 cable adapters?.
      I'm able to link to my destop PC, but not to print... (printer goes wild
      when trying to print...)
      I use a 9-pin/9-pin null modem adapter piggy-backed to the standard cable.
      Anyone doing his/her own cables?.
      Thanks a lot.
      Jesus.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:29:44 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Detection of data corruption
Comments: To: hobchi@JUNO.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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> Now if someone can only give me two cents worth on how to
> solve my database subset problems I'd be much oblidge...

Why not make copies of both of them.  Then try merging one into the
other.  Since there is only one category field, I would GUESS they would
merge and all categories would be included in the merged data.  Or are
the file formats (db structures) very different?

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:47:27 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Works 3.0
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Regarding the message that Works 3.0 has some problem with the power and
light sleep mode, I can turn my palmtop off while running Works 3.0.  But
I usually have to hit the power button two or three times.  I suspect that
the only reason it works is because I have Mack Baggette's Killmsg program
loaded, which includes a turn-off routine of its own.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:47:49 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Jeff
Where can we get these programs
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:13:39 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      HP Connectivity Pack and INT, 7EH or 7FH(?)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thanks for the answers to my original question. I have successfully
installed the program on my PC at home but my notebook computer which is the
one I need to use the HP Connectivity Pack doesn't run the program. While
trying to start the program with the app200 file, an error comes up that
says,
"Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH. Please remove it and try
again".
What in the world does this mean?
Thanks,
Ken

>Original message:
>Is the installation procedure for installing the HP Connectivity Pack on
>Windows 95 and 98 different from installing on Windows 3.1? I have never
>been successful.
Ken

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:20:27 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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From:         Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Use of drive B: on a palmtop
Mime-Version: 1.0
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> I noticed that the Ý-B-¨ drive shows up in Filer, but it
> doesn't do anything.  If you use JOIN from DOS 5.0
> you can join a directory to drive B:  Then when you
> open drive B: you'll get a listing of files in the directory.

Cool! I had forgotten all about JOIN! This is a great way to get Filer to
shortcut to your most often used directory. Good tip, Ed!

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:27:22 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
Subject:      Another web browser project for the palmtop

         Hello all,

 I have an idea for yet another browser for the palmtop.
 So many HPLX-L members can program in IBM's "Basic", the REXX!
 I had the luck to use a browser called Charlotte, written by
 volunteers for IBM 390 family mainframes; that was in REXX.

 I know IBM PC lacks text file handling capabilities found
 in big computers, but the ease of upgrade and piping features
 found in Rexx would make it a breeze to "tailor" the browser
 whenever new IE/NS specific tags hit the web.

 Of course, this was a text-only browser in IBM 3270 mode; but
 it could deal with any complicated frame webpage better than
 Lynx running on Unix box could. I made heavy use of Charlotte
 Version 2, especially searches and newsagency pages.

 (I can no longer use it, the 4191 machine was disassembled in
 mid-1998, as IBM wanted full licence fees from the University,
 which can't even pay for the heating of its buildings during
 the winter. This is Central Europe)

 So do you think that a HPLX browser written in Rexx, or
 maybe some sort of Charlotte port would be interesting for
 enough users to form a developer group for this task?

              Yours Sincerely: Tamas Feher.


____________________________________________________________
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:29:58 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Translation
Comments: cc: jeffj@SCOTT.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>This is another plea to the list to see if there is anyone fluent in
Japanese that could convert some docs for dateman.exe and icndsp.exe <g>.
I
have been playing around with them a little bit tonight and have managed to
get dateman to work somewhat (I think)

I made such an offer more than a year ago, but never got any requests.

Actually, I don't read Japanese fluently. But my wife works as a
translator, among other things. We can do things on a time-available
basis. No guarantee of correctness. No indemnification against
copyright infringement. No guarantee we'll ever get around to any
particular item. You get what you pay for <grin>.

Send me PRIVATE email (so as not to waste bandwidth) telling me what you
want translated, and the URL or FTP address where we can get it.
Obviously, URLs of Japanese web pages are acceptable.

If the software author grants me permission to publish the translation,
I will publish it on my website and/or send it to Mitch at S.U.P.E.R.
I will also post to the list a note saying that the translation is
available.

I will ignore any requests that are posted to the list, even if the poster
CCs me on it. Send requests privately.

Again, no guarantees that we will do any translations at all. But if you
don't ask, we won't do it.

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:33:18 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Printer adapter (was: Detection of data corruption)
Comments: To: "jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES" <jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

  If you're trying to use the printer adapter from the CPACK kit, that only
works with a SERIAL-printer....  And if you have a serial printer, the
null-modem would NOT be used.  Those adapters will NOT work with a normal
parallel (Windows/DOS printer) printer without a very different (extra cost)
serial to parallel converter.

  If you are using a serial printer and the correct adapter, you need to
make sure your serial port is set to the same baud rate as your printer.
(Rates vary from printer to printer so I can't help you much there...)

  Does that help?
               .... JLS

  PS:  EVERYONE...:  Please take the time to edit your subject field.  There
are far too many "Detection of data corruption" (and other subjects) message
floating through here which have nothing to do with their subject.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesus Consuegra Ýmailto:jconsuegra@RETEVISION.ES¨
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 12:17 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
> Does anybody have the pinout/internal wiring layout of
> HP5181-6642 and HP5181-6640 cable adapters?.  I'm able
> to link to my destop PC, but not to print...
> (printer goes wild when trying to print...)
> I use a 9-pin/9-pin null modem adapter piggy-backed to
> the standard cable.
>       Anyone doing his/her own cables?.
>       Thanks a lot.
>       Jesus.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:43:21 -0400
Reply-To:     Bruce Francis <bfrancis@pobox.com>
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From:         Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Translation
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Someone needs to put a bunch of these on the queue:

  TBLX

 {others?}


On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:29:58 -0500, Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

>I made such an offer more than a year ago, but never got any requests.
>
>Actually, I don't read Japanese fluently. But my wife works as a
>translator, among other things. We can do things on a time-available
>basis. No guarantee of correctness. No indemnification against
>copyright infringement. No guarantee we'll ever get around to any
>particular item. You get what you pay for <grin>.
>
>Send me PRIVATE email (so as not to waste bandwidth) telling me what you
>want translated, and the URL or FTP address where we can get it.
>Obviously, URLs of Japanese web pages are acceptable.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:02:38 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, qman@EARTHLINK.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: cc:mail & ccLXPOP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi All,

To detach an attachment while viewing the message: Press ÝF3¨

Note: if there is more than one then arrow to the name of the you want to
detach.

Then press ÝEnter¨ type in the path and the name of the file you want to
detach, then press ÝEnter¨.


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------

Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM> Wrote:

A few questions about cc:mail:
1. How do I detach the file rcvd using cc:LXPOP? I had read the
help file and the HP manual, the only way I found was to press
the either "forward" or "reply", then select "Attach". It seems
to had detached the file, but where is the detached file?


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HTH


Regards,


Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net


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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:51:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
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From:         Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      Re: LXMusic.... Wow!
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Where can I get LXMusic?

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:35:40 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXMusic.... Wow!
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 12:03 AM
Subject: LXMusic.... Wow!


> I would like to thank Paul Haroun for his LXMusic software. Believe it or
> not, I went to college on a Dean's Fine Arts Academic scholarship and was
a
> music education major..... don't ask how I ended up in law enforcement
> because that's a whole other story <g>. I actually sat down and composed a
> couple of little melodies tonight.... that's something I had not done in
> years. Now if we could just get the LX to do polyphonic notes <g>.

I don't know if this might help.  For my own use I find LXMusic an
interesting curiosity than a really useful program.   I use MusicPrinter
Plus on the palmtop to write polyphonic sheet music all the time.  To hear
it, I save the file as a midi file, then I use two programs from SUPER:
MIDI1TO0, which converts the type 1 midi file to type 0, then I use LXMIDI
to hear it on the palmtop (quality is marginal, but with my settings I can
hear it at the actual written pitch, so it is an  adequate way to aurally
confirm what I wrote with MusicPrinter plus.  And yes, LXMIDI does play
polyphonic music on the palmtop).  Then, when I am satisfied, I transfer the
type 1 midi file to my desktop pc, for further editing with FINALE98 for
Windows, from which I then print the file.   I have printed sheet music from
the palmtop with MusicPrinter Plus before, but Finale98 gives superior
results, so I don't do it too often.
MusicPrinter Plus is a commercial program.  I hear the company went belly
up, so I am not sure of the best way to buy it (I bought mine the risky way,
by putting an add on USENET.  Two people offered to sell me their copy).

I have never heard of anyone else writing music on the palmtop this way . .
.

Domingo
A music teacher and palmtopper

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:45:31 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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From:         Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Japanese Translation
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello Jeff,

Please send me the documents via
private E-mail. If they are not that long,
I can translate it for you.

Regards,
Yujin

------------
Yujin Nagasawa

State University of New York at Stony Brook

ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
-------------






>This is another plea to the list to see if there is anyone fluent in
>Japanese that could convert some docs for dateman.exe and icndsp.exe <g>. I
>have been playing around with them a little bit tonight and have managed to
>get dateman to work somewhat (I think) =)
>
>Jeff
>
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:32:23 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bing WEN <wenbing@STATCAN.CA>
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From:         Bing WEN <wenbing@STATCAN.CA>
Organization: Infrastructure Support, Statistics Canada, Ottawa
Subject:      Linux for HP95
Content-Type: text

Is anyone running some mini Linux on a HP95?

I bought my 2MB RAM model some five years ago when I was
a poor graduate student. It was a big deal at that time
to bring a real computer (and that small!) into the classroom
to take notes:-)

That little toy has been sitting idle to gather dust for
sometime now. I am thinking of ways to make some new use of it
again. Or is it hopelessly useless?

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:38:08 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Elbow Grease (was Solar Power)
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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The radio is called "Rechargeable Dynamo & Solar Radio With Light" by Jobar
International Inc. made in China. I bought it a Cole Hardware
(www.colehardware.com) in San Francisco (SKU 17874 34746, USA Patent D364, 869,
U.K. Patent 2040607). Comes in a yellow box. It's about 1.5" longer than the
palmtop and a bit thicker. The construction is pretty cheap plastic and wouldn't
try to drop it on concrete unless you want to see a bunch of pieces flying
everywhere, but It's got the solar cell and the little dynamo and (I assume) the
rechargeable battery inside. With a 60 seconds cranking on the dynamo, I managed
to listen to the radio for 3-4 hours without signs of letting down. Man, it
would be nice to be able to recharge cellphone and LX and other things with this
dynamo!

That's a challenge for all of you electronics wiz out there!

Philippe


----- Original Message -----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Elbow Grease (was Solar Power)


> > I'll see what the actual name of the radio is. Just send me some e-mail if
> > you're interested to remind me.
>
> I'd be interested in learning more about this unit.  -Chris
>
> --
>
> ************************************************************************
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
> Huntsville, Alabama
> ************************************************************************
>
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:50:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux for HP95
In-Reply-To:  <199906091932.PAA11213@statcan.ca> from "Bing WEN" at Jun 9,
              99 03:32:23 pm
Content-Type: text

> That little toy has been sitting idle to gather dust for
> sometime now. I am thinking of ways to make some new use of it
> again. Or is it hopelessly useless?

COMPLETELY useless.  If you want, I'll take it off your hands for
a dollar.   8-)

Just kidding.  These computers are VERY useful - just read this
mailing list for a week or two and see how many different and
amazing applications are being used on the palmtop.

-Chris

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Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:19:28 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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I don't think recycling batteries is "PC" - it is simply a common
sense answer to a fundamental question - How to reduce toxic
trash in landfills...

To be "PC" is to deny the truth to avoid hurting someones
feelings...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...


On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:46:56 -0500, Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET> wrote:

> However long they last, dispose of them properly.

Uh..... I think the list is turning politically correct <g>. I gotta email
Rush Limbaugh and let him know..... he will be so disapointed!

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:31:30 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...
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Um, I think Riccochet uses Packet Technology, but it has *nothing*
to do with the Amatuer Radio Service (by law, it can't use the Ham
freq., but the technique may be similar)...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...


>The ricochet's pretty cool technology.  I'd love to use it; but they don't
>cover my area (Morgan Hill - Gilroy).  But... they are supposed to be
>"plumbing" Morgan Hill sometime this year.  It works well, if you're in a
>coverage area (it's based on amateur packet radio).

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On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:31:30 -0400, Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> Um, I think Riccochet uses Packet Technology, but it has *nothing*
> to do with the Amatuer Radio Service (by law, it can't use the Ham
> freq., but the technique may be similar)...

I think Bill was refering to the AX.25 protocol that is used in amateur
radio, the commercial variant is X.25.

Jeff

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> I don't think recycling batteries is "PC" - it is simply a common
> sense answer to a fundamental question - How to reduce toxic
> trash in landfills...

Recycling batteries is not PC (politically correct)..

"power the LX with a windup radio" is semi-PC..

Powering your LX with a windup radio, which in turn was powered
by eating only tofu and granola bars - *That's PC..* :-)

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Gee, Chris, why spoil his delusions.

Meanwhile, I'll be so generous as to offer $1.95...

R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> > That little toy has been sitting idle to gather dust for
> > sometime now. I am thinking of ways to make some new use of it
> > again. Or is it hopelessly useless?
>
> COMPLETELY useless.  If you want, I'll take it off your hands for
> a dollar.   8-)
>
> Just kidding.  These computers are VERY useful - just read this
> mailing list for a week or two and see how many different and
> amazing applications are being used on the palmtop.
>
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:10:19 -0400
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In-Reply-To:  <375EC7C2.7016C00C@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Jun 9,
              99 04:00:02 pm
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If you really wanted to sound cute, put a simley after
your dry joke. Otherwise, just shut up! :-)

-
>
> Gee, Chris, why spoil his delusions.
>
> Meanwhile, I'll be so generous as to offer $1.95...
>
> R. Christopher Lott wrote:
> >
> > > That little toy has been sitting idle to gather dust for
> > > sometime now. I am thinking of ways to make some new use of it
> > > again. Or is it hopelessly useless?
> >
> > COMPLETELY useless.  If you want, I'll take it off your hands for
> > a dollar.   8-)
> >
> > Just kidding.  These computers are VERY useful - just read this
> > mailing list for a week or two and see how many different and
> > amazing applications are being used on the palmtop.
> >
> > R. Christopher Lott, P.E.
>
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> If you really wanted to sound cute, put a simley after
> your dry joke. Otherwise, just shut up! :-)

I don't think I could have been clearer - my "smiley" is
bespectacled, like me, hence the "8" instead of the ":".
Jeeee.... lighten up a bit!

> > > COMPLETELY useless.  If you want, I'll take it off your hands for
> > > a dollar.   8-)
> > >
> > > Just kidding.



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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:28:19 -0700
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Does anyone know how to register the Vertical Reader program?  The
program
help indicates a compuserve forum, but I am not a compuserve user.  Any
assistance would be appreciated.

Also, can the vertical reader program store bookmarks between
invocations?
Is this a registered only feature?

Thanks,

Russell Markus
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I registered mine by sending an "Elvis" postcard (I live in Memphis,TN
<g>) to the author. He sent back my registration via email. I believe
his address is:
Gilles Kohl
Hagsfelder Allee 16
D-76131 Karlsruhe
GERMANY

The program lets you set several bookmarks.

VR is one of my favorite apps for the LX!

Steve

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        Does anyone know how to register the Vertical Reader program?
The
        program
        help indicates a compuserve forum, but I am not a compuserve
user.  Any
        assistance would be appreciated.

        Also, can the vertical reader program store bookmarks between
        invocations?
        Is this a registered only feature?

        Thanks,

        Russell Markus
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On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:10:19 -0400, Bing WEN <wenbing@STATCAN.CA> wrote:

> If you really wanted to sound cute, put a simley after
> your dry joke. Otherwise, just shut up! :-)

Wow! Everybody is touchy today.......

Jeff

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----- Original Message -----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:47 PM
Subject: Works 3.0


> Regarding the message that Works 3.0 has some problem with the power and
> light sleep mode, I can turn my palmtop off while running Works 3.0.  But
> I usually have to hit the power button two or three times.  I suspect that
> the only reason it works is because I have Mack Baggette's Killmsg program
> loaded, which includes a turn-off routine of its own.

Nope.  This behavior occurs regardless of any driver or TSR loaded.  Stephan
P. (spelling?) wanted to know whether his program SLEEPON would help solve
this problem.  Unfortunately it does not.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: ICNDSP.EXE & DATEMAN.EXE .... Hooray!!



>    DATEMAN.EXE and ICNDSP.EXE, "DATECHECK & INT TRAP Manager"
>    created by Mr. Tabikuro, will simulate the display of
>    Extensions / Control Panels icons on HP100/200LX during
>    start-up.  If for some reason the date is reset to 1980/01/01
>    or if IntTrapHalt error occurs, it readjusts the date and
>    shows a familiar bomb icon.

Hi Jeff.   How is this better than DATETEST from SUPER?

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He was actually mad at me, Chris, for not putting a smiley there.
As you say, you _did_ have a similey, I saw it even without
my spectacles...

I guess I didn't know smileys were obligatory. But then when
he said `Or is it Ýthe 200¨ hopelessly useless?' he didn't put a simley
there either, so I think he's guilty of demanding others `smiley' while
not `smileying' himself.

In any event I sure don't regard his message as an `effective sales
pitch', so I guess I'd better withdraw my offer.

ÝBing WEN¨
> > If you really wanted to sound cute, put a simley after
> > your dry joke. Otherwise, just shut up! :-)
>

ÝR. Christopher Lott¨
> I don't think I could have been clearer - my "smiley" is
> bespectacled, like me, hence the "8" instead of the ":".
> Jeeee.... lighten up a bit!
>
> > > > COMPLETELY useless.  If you want, I'll take it off your hands for
> > > > a dollar.   8-)
> > > >
> > > > Just kidding.
>

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I downloaded the LXMusic program but cannot get it to start on my HP 200LX.
The error comes up reading:
"CGI.BGI graphics driver not found.
Check the DOS path variable".
I can't wait to use this. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and what
I should do?
Oh yes, in plain English.
Thanks,
Ken

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Anyone who would like to xfer their 'free' Ricochet modem, please contact
me.

thanks scott

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Hi Roger & All,

Auto wrap works just fine on my palmtop.

Can you post an example of a line that won't or didn't wrap?


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------

Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM> Wrote:

2. How do I set up cc:mail so that it will auto wrap the line when creating
e-mail?


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Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net


ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.03

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On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> Nope.  This behavior occurs regardless of any driver or TSR loaded.
> Stephan P. (spelling?) wanted to know whether his program SLEEPON
> would help solve this problem.  Unfortunately it does not.

Even with KillMSG loaded, it doesn't work?

Interesting.  I wonder why my copy will turn off and yours doesn't.  I
did notice that LXPRO won't pop up over it, so I know it does SOMETHING to
the keyboard.  That, and its very slow speed, was one of the main reasons
I changed from Works to WP51.

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Subject:      Re: Linux for HP95

>
>> If you really wanted to sound cute, put a simley after
>> your dry joke. Otherwise, just shut up! :-)
>
>Wow! Everybody is touchy today.......
>
Must be the heet.
The doggy days O'June.

yor pal al....................................

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Comments: To: Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>

> Of course, this was a text-only browser in IBM 3270 mode; but
> it could deal with any complicated frame webpage better than


How did it do that? Handle frames better, that is?

> maybe some sort of Charlotte port would be interesting for
> enough users to form a developer group for this task?

Where's the source? I read somewhere that in the old days IBM would deliver
source with the basic package?


Have a nice day!

Franklin

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Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:36:36 +0100 (BST)

09h24m03s ago ...
On Wed,  9 Jun 1999 08:12:33 -0700 (CST), Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> -- anyone know if I can tell Post/LX to *NOT* index as often?

Put

ManualPack=1

in the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG

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Sally Cooper <SALLY_COOPER@HP-CORVALLIS-OM1.OM.HP.COM> wrote:

> I understand that removing the main batteries (for any reason) can
> place the C: drive at risk if the backup battery is not in the best of
> condition

Exactly right.  I advise everyone to connect the palmtop to
the external power and keep it turned off whenever removing
any of the batteries (AA or backup) for any period of time.

Even while off, the palmtop will draw power exclusively from
the AC adapter when it is connected.  So, there is not any
load on any batteries.  Of course, charging must be disabled
in order to turn the palmtop off while on the AC adapter.

The problem with discharging the batteries in the palmtop is
that by the very nature of such an action, the AC adapter
cannot be connected.  So, there is no safety net there.


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> I'm sorry that I apparently offended so many of the list members with my
> suggestion to t recycle NiCads. batteries.

I consider disposing of hazardous waste (batteries) as part of
the correct usage instructions.  Since many of us dispose of
many batteries per year we are a prime group to be reminded
about civic responsibility.

This shouldn't be political topic because there really isn't any
(valid) counter argument.  (What? You WANT to poison the water?)

Topic change...

Do you think there'll be much of a run on batteries due to Y2K?

cheers... Russ

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Hi all.

I just got back from a family vacation in Yellowstone NP in Wyoming USA.
It's pretty remote out there, and most of the rooms/cabins (including mine)
have no phone/tv/radio.  I brought along my trusty 200LX with Goin' Postal,
a Motorola DPC550 cellular phone, and a Motorola 'Cellular Connection'
wireless adapter just in case I might have the opportunity to use it.
Wouldn't you know it, the local cellular company out of Cody WY was allowed
to put service in the park, so I had communications!  I was able to send
email back and forth with a family member back home who sent me daily
weather forecasts.  It was high tech at it's finest!

I would like to thank Steve Lawson for doing such a great job with Goin'
Postal.  It makes wireless, portable email a breeze!

BTW - I average at least 1 year (I don't exactly know, because I buy so
infrequently) on a pair of 'cheap' RS NiCad's that I charge in my HP with
the HP charger when I get a battery low message.  As far as Lithium Ion
goes, that is what I use with my Cellular Phones, and even though they are
expensive, I wouldn't use anything else.  They just last forever.

Sean

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On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:40:08 -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.N=
ET> wrote:

> Hi Jeff.   How is this better than DATETEST from SUPER?

Beats me <g>. I can't read the docs, so I can't really say!

Jeff

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> > I have a DOS program which has an Icon which has been made for it to be
> > used on a 200LX.  My question is how do I get that Icon to pop up when
> I
> > make it so this application is set up in the application Icons view.  I
> > am using maxdos with it.
>
> If the icon came with the app, I assume it has the same name as the
> executable.  If you're using MaxDOS, put only the path to the DOS
> executable in the path line.  Tab to the icon selection, and pick the
> icon.  Tab back to the path, and add MaxDOS at the front of the line.
> Then, if everything is OK - hit F10.

That will work fine.

And alternative is to place the icon ANYWHERE, and name it any old name with a
suffix .ICN.

Here is how you add an application and force the icon:

1. Type the application name. In the PATH field enter the FULL PATH for the
icon file (!).

2. Tab to the icon viewer. If the icon is there, great - see step 3. DO NOT
PRESS F10!

If the icon is not there, then you typed the path name incorrectly. Redo it.

3. Tab more to the PATH field and enter the full path for the actual
application. When you are done, press F10. The icon is now embedded in the
APPMGR.DAT file. (Which means you can even DELETE the icon file from the
palmtop!)

----------------

If you already have an icon and wish to change it here are the instructions.
It is a bit tricky, so take time to read exactly...

1. Edit the entry in Applications Manager Menu (where the icons show up.) Tab
to the PATH field.

2. COPY the highlighted field (which is the path name for the application.)

3. Without moving away from the PATH field, type the path of the icon - no
matter where it is (see above)

4. Tab to the Icon viewer window. If the new icon you want shows up, great -
see step 5. Otherwise, tab back to the PATH field and retype the proper path
for the icon file. (Press Filer button to see exactly where it is!)

5. Tab some more until you return to the PATH field. Now just press PASTE
(Fn-+) to paste back the path for the application.

You are done...

Enjoy...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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If you want to see the computer light recently designed on this list by
some of our more ingenious, check out the following web site:

http://www.1800batteries.com/home.htm

Do a search by catalog # for: 42910.

I can't tell if it is an led, but it is being driven off the port
(ps/2). I have no affiliation whatsoever.

Bob

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Anand Rao wrote:

>In the past we had discussed several 'safe practices' to avoid data
>corruption. One nagging issue remained - how do we detect that there has
>been some corruption in data?

I've been playing around with ?DB files lately, and it seems like
there are a few ways in which to check the structure of the files with
a DOS program. I've written the first pass of it, but I'm not sure
what kinds of errors I should be looking for.

Could a few people send me their corrupted files to test it on? I
pledge not to share any of your data or to use it for any purpose
other than figuring out how to detect corrupted files. I probably
won't even look at the text data.

I'm thinking that this DOS program could check a DB file's integrity
and return an ERRORLEVEL if it's bad, so that you could use this in a
batch file to backup your data, not backing up a file that is
corrupted.

--=20
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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:32:05 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Works 3.0


> > Nope.  This behavior occurs regardless of any driver or TSR loaded.
> > Stephan P. (spelling?) wanted to know whether his program SLEEPON
> > would help solve this problem.  Unfortunately it does not.
>
> Even with KillMSG loaded, it doesn't work?
> Interesting.  I wonder why my copy will turn off and yours doesn't.  I

No, no.  I meant, the behavior of only turning off after two or three key
presses and not going to sleep on its own occurs regardless of any device
driver or TSR.  I meant that you *can* turn off the palmtop with Works
loaded, but that its peculiar behavior is not affected by any TSR or device
driver that I have seen so far.  I hope that clarifies it a bit.

> did notice that LXPRO won't pop up over it, so I know it does SOMETHING to
> the keyboard.  That, and its very slow speed, was one of the main reasons
> I changed from Works to WP51.

Isn't WP51 also slow on the palmtop?  Works version 2 has much better speed
than version 3, but the above problem is the same in both versions.

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:23:47 +0100
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Al Creswell wrote:
> Post/LX ...I get the statement: "error: not enough memory or disk space.for
> memory swap",

I am not sure what software issues that error (MaxDOS?) but it is not
POST/LX for sure.

> arrows) Got LCP Terminate

For some reason, the other side does not want to establish the
connection. Could it be you use AT&t as your ISP? They seem to have
some problems recently.

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Bing WEN wrote:
>
> Is anyone running some mini Linux on a HP95?
>
> I bought my 2MB RAM model some five years ago when I was
> a poor graduate student. It was a big deal at that time
> to bring a real computer (and that small!) into the classroom
> to take notes:-)
>
> That little toy has been sitting idle to gather dust for
> sometime now. I am thinking of ways to make some new use of it
> again. Or is it hopelessly useless?
>
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Hi Bing I to have a HP95LX and a HP200LX my wife use the 95lx because
it's simple
and faster than 200lx (the 200lx has large databases ao the search is
slow)that's good
because I use the 200lx.
getting to the point the 95lx is still a good machine. the financial
calculator is the best. you still can do file transfer between pc
desktop I AM USING WIN NT 4.0
WITH 95LX IT WORKS GREAT.

I have heard about linux so I am going to one of confer in San Jose Ca
this week to
learn more it.

About your HP95LX if you want to sell it I will bid on it for $35.00

maybe more if it is in good condition. let me know.

                              BOB1

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I am trying to setup my recently acquired XJ2144 for use with palmtop.com.
I have successfully set it up and tested it in Australia by dialling the =
US
number but now that I am here I am having in Sacramento I am having
problems.=A0=A0 I am using the Init String AT&F&c1&D2&K3 (also X4 is set =
as
default - you need to set this to X3 for use in Australia).=A0=A0 I can d=
ial the
palmtop.com number, connect at 9600baud but then the connection drops out=
!
The first time I connected I managed to download 1 and a half messages so=
 I
think the init string is OK.

Could it be power problems?=A0=A0 I have tried NiMH with and without AC a=
daptor,
and brand new Lithium batteries but I can't maintain a connection.

Does anyone know what could be wrong?=A0=A0 I am at a loss!

Thanks,

Leon Phillips

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:57:52 -0700
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              Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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After much thought and contemplation, F. Kaufman wrote:
>This just started happening to me with AT&T as my isp and only (that I
>know of) on their Seattle node.  Portland, Ore and their 800 number work
>(that is how I logged on this morning while Seattle is still out)  Just
>in case that may be your new problem!


Thanks for the heads up; I tried again tonight (same Salem number as last
night), and it connected; I logged off & tried 3 times again, and I got the
same disconnect as last night about 3 times in a row.  I tried their 800
number a couple times, and it worked fine.  Guess it's an isp problem!
I'll check out the other salem numbers & see what happens. One down....? to
go!

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After much thought and contemplation, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>I am not sure what software issues that error (MaxDOS?) but it is not
>POST/LX for sure.

I'm sure it is...it's the only other program running in there that I know
of.  I'll do some more looking; perhaps delete the program files &
re-install www/lx components + maxdos again  & see what happens.  Time's
running short for now; I'll be leaving on vacation next Tuesday, so need to
finish getting things buttoned up around here & get ready to roll.

>Could it be you use AT&t as your ISP? They seem to have
>some problems recently.

Yes, I received an earlier post from F Kaufman who confirmed this problem.
I tried dialling in on their 800 numbe tonight, and it worked fine when
trying to initiate a connect with www/lx. One problem resolved, anyway!

Perhaps I should clean out the 200 by deleting all the program & data files
I've added, and try again.

Thanks again for responding,

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>
>>This is gonna sound crazy... and we have talked about it here before now,
>>but does the drive need defragmenting?
>
>It's not crazy.  I use Post/LX a lot <snip>

This might be an issue, but I've not got any email in the system yet, so
too much mail isn't the problem, and I've only had it about 3-4 weeks.
Each drive has several hundred k of space free (around 800k on F and
400-500K on C).


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After much thought and contemplation, Jeff Johns wrote:
>but does the drive need defragmenting?

This might be an issue, but I've not got any email in the system yet, so
too much mail isn't the problem, and I've only had it about 3-4 weeks.
Each drive has several hundred k of space free (around 800k on F and
400-500K on C).


>Want me to post my autoexec.bat file
>again?

Thanks...I still have all the previous msgs...I save 'em all!

Al Creswell.

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Feher Tamas wrote:

>  So do you think that a HPLX browser written in Rexx, or
>  maybe some sort of Charlotte port would be interesting for
>  enough users to form a developer group for this task?

I'd be very interested.  I'm a poor programer but as an
OS/2er one of the first things on my HP was rexx.

Now was this Rexx or NetRexx?

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Hi all,

Anybody looked into converting Rocketbook files? Some are freely
downloadable as samples. I looked at it with List, it seems to be a
compressed file with header info. The header mentions the seperate file
names, amongst them html and png files. Is is basically a compressed web
page? Would it be illegal to make a converter? Maybe a uncompressor for HV?
Or plain text or VR?

http://www.rocket-library.com/common2/Citizen.asp?id=fabrick for the
samples.

br

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<The problem with discharging the batteries in the palmtop is
that by the very nature of such an action, the AC adapter
cannot be connected.  So, there is no safety net there.>

To discharge the batteries, you can put them in an old transistor radio and turn
it on. After the radio stops, you can put the batteries in an analog watch, that
doesn\'t use much power. It will work for a few hours. After this you are sure,
that the batteries are as discharged as possible. No security problem.

-goe-

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<Isn\'t WP51 also slow on the palmtop?>

No, it runs as fast as the built-in apps. Of course, the start needs some
seconds. I always was amazed about the speed of this powerfull program, even on
on the slowest PC with a 85ms Harddisk (tested!).

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Some guys have set up minix to run on the LX. You can download it here:
http://www.palmtop.net/

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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:29:13 -0400
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Well, in this case, technique = protocol, but the follow-p
question would be "Which came first, X.25 or AX.25?"

I  suspect X.25 came first ;¬)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: I got a free Ricochert Modem... with strings attached...


On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:31:30 -0400, Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> Um, I think Riccochet uses Packet Technology, but it has *nothing*
> to do with the Amatuer Radio Service (by law, it can't use the Ham
> freq., but the technique may be similar)...

I think Bill was refering to the AX.25 protocol that is used in amateur
radio, the commercial variant is X.25.

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Just so I'm clear on this, PC means Pretty Crazy, right? ;¬)

(Did everyone see the ;¬) )

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:01 PM
Subject: FLUFF: NiCd - NiMh factoids...


>> I don't think recycling batteries is "PC" - it is simply a common
>> sense answer to a fundamental question - How to reduce toxic
>> trash in landfills...
>
>Recycling batteries is not PC (politically correct)..
>
>"power the LX with a windup radio" is semi-PC..
>
>Powering your LX with a windup radio, which in turn was powered
>by eating only tofu and granola bars - *That's PC..* :-)
>
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Date:         Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:41:47 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Another web browser project for the palmtop


>> Of course, this was a text-only browser in IBM 3270 mode; but
>> it could deal with any complicated frame webpage better than
>
>How did it do that? Handle frames better, that is?


I've got two words for you - Thirty Ninety! It is a very big machine,
and you don't need to spend a lot of time working on hacks for
little spped-ups here and there...

>> maybe some sort of Charlotte port would be interesting for
>> enough users to form a developer group for this task?
>
>Where's the source? I read somewhere that in the old days IBM would deliver
>source with the basic package?


I think that source came on punch (hollerith) cards!

REXX written to drive a 3270 terminal session would be of minimal
use in a warm and fuzzy 80186 PC (IMHO)...

(Note -> ;¬))

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Don't worry, Radio Shack has lots! ;¬)

Interesting thought though...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...


>Do you think there'll be much of a run on batteries due to Y2K?

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On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:29:13 -0400, Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> I  suspect X.25 came first ;¬)

I believe you are correct.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:32:42 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Setting up XJ2144 for use with Palmtop.com

LnC.Phillips@bigpond.com writes:
> I am trying to setup my recently acquired XJ2144 for use with palmtop.com.
> I have successfully set it up and tested it in Australia by dialling the US
> number but now that I am here I am having in Sacramento I am having
> problems.   I am using the Init String AT&F&c1&D2&K3 (also X4 is set as
> default - you need to set this to X3 for use in Australia).   I can dial the
> palmtop.com number, connect at 9600baud but then the connection drops out!


I have cc:Mail set to 19200 baud, Com2, and "hardware" for
flow control.  Cc:Mail points to c:\_dat\xj2144.mdm for the
modem file.  I got it from somewhere on Lotus's web site
(don't ask me where) and it contains the following:


; cc:Mail Generic Modem Command File

Ýattributes¨

MODELS=XJ2144
NULL MODEM=0

Ýcommands¨

ESCAPE=+++
ATTENTION=ATZ
ATTENTION=ATE1V1
HANGUP=ATH0
SETUP=AT&F&C1&D2&S1&M0W0S95=0
SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4
SETUP=ATS7=60S10=50
RTS/CTS ENABLED=
RTS/CTS IGNORED=
VOLUME OFF=ATM0
VOLUME LOW=ATM1L0
VOLUME MEDIUM=ATM1L1
VOLUME HIGH=ATM1L2
MANUAL DIAL=ATX3S9=6D
AUTO DIAL SETUP=ATS9=6
AUTO PULSE DIAL=ATDP
AUTO TONE DIAL=ATDT
AUTO DIAL SUFFIX=,,


It works fine for me.  Hope it helps!

Ted

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On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Some guys have set up minix to run on the LX. You can download it
> here: http://www.palmtop.net/

Go to http://minix.hplx.net for the latest version.

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Does anybody have the Lode Runner program to create new levels?  I have been having a
great time with this old game and would like to make some additional levels.   I would
like to buy the original game if possible.
Best Regards,
Mike Melancon

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I am under orders from the "War Department" at my house to clear out some of the extra
stuff from my computer corner in the den.  I look for anything  at swap meets or
auctions that works with or runs on my 200LX and wind up with duplicates - she just
doesn't understand why I would buy something I already have a dozen of :>)


Here's a list with asking prices -- please contact me off the list to buy or make offer
on anything.

Item                                                            Condition                       Price
Motorola Pocket modem                   NEW                                     100.00
Serial to Parallel convertor    USED                             25.00
Lotus 123 r2.4 (w/ manuals)             NEW     (3.5")                   50.00
Lotus 123 r2.4 (w/ manuals)             USED (5.25")             25.00
                                                                        (with copy on 3.5" disks)
Software Carousel (desktop)             NEW                                      15.00
Lotus Agenda 2.0 (w/ manuals)   USED                            125.00
                                                                        (with new disk set unopened)
Omnibook 300                                            USED                            325.00

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:49:13 -0400
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Hello,

     Quoting the following,

> MINIX on the HP200LX

> by Dr. Richard L. Dubs

> (last updated:  July 1, 1998)
.....
> The HP200LX has built-in software that allows one to mount a DOS
filesystem on a
> PCMCIA ATA Flash Disk as the A: drive; however, as far as I can tell, this
> software does not configure the Flash Disk as an I/O device - rather, it
> configures it as a memory-mapped device.
.....
> it was a simple matter to figure out how to activate a
> PCMCIA Flash Disk as an I/O device so that I could use card just like a hard
> disk. The program CARDIO.EXE provided in my software package activates a
PCMCIA
> card as an I/O device on the 200LX.
.....

From the above (and much more in that article) I would
surmise that making two partitions would require a more
"standard" ATA interface.  From the discussions here, I
would suspect that the memory-mapping support is more
like a RAM disk and wouldn't support multiple partitions.

     Has anyone tried partitioning an I/O activated PCMCIA
device?  Would seem to be an interesting project for someone?

2 cents...

Steve

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:17:46 -0400
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Have a look at this foot-powered device.  It actually puts out 12VDC;
perfect for the 100/200LX!

http://www.nseg.co.jp/english/products/step/detail.html

DESCRIPTION Anytime, anyplace, anyone can create power with STEPCHARGER.
All it takes is a repetitious stepping motion with the heel of your foot.
4 times the power of the "hand-held" generator, yet it is still
light and compact making it portable and easy to use.
Constant voltage circuit which will suppress loss of charge.
Will not interfere with infrastructures, so it is safe to use on airplanes,
trains and automobiles.
 DIMENSIONS W 2.3 x L 5.46 x H 1.56 (in.)
WEIGHT 10.51 oz.
OUTPUT 0 to 6W / DC12V (standard type)
RECHARGEABLE
EQUIPMENT Anytime, anyplace, anyone can charge satellite phones, cellular
phones,
CBs, walkie talkies, lap tops, digital cameras, video cameras, radios, or
anything with a rechargeable battery.

* This product is subject to change in order to increase performance.

Alan Striegel

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On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Domingo  Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> Isn't WP51 also slow on the palmtop?  Works version 2 has much better
> speed than version 3, but the above problem is the same in both
> versions.

WP51 is much faster than Works 3.  On my double-speed palmtop, it probably
runs three or four times faster.  Which was a good thing, in my opinion.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:05:20 -0400
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Subject:      Re: LXMusic.... Whoa! This thing is not working, yet.
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Well, in plain English:
1-I downloaded it.   2-I copied it to my palmtop. 2-I unziped it. 3-I did
not bother to install it.  Instead, I ran the exe file on the spot (from
filer). No trouble whatsoever.
If you are using Software Carousel or similar program, unload it and try
again to see if it works.  Or search the drives and directories in your path
for any identically named files.  Rename them if found, and try again.

As an aside, I used to try to run a program called EnglishMuse, or something
like that, from the Garbo site.  Its demo could play nice polyphonic music
on the palmtop, but the actual program seemed to need ega graphics.  It was
a nice little program, similar to lxmusic, with an on-screen keyboard and a
piano grand staff.  It could print music and play it too.  Screen colors
were adjustable, as were many other settings.  It could save polyphonic
compositions in its own format or in Pascal source code.  I used to search
high and low for someone who would hack it for cga graphics.  I tracked it
down to the Russian company where it was produced, but apparently the author
disappeared for some reason (this was around the time when the soviet union
was falling apart.  Who knows what could have happened . . . ). Apparently
it is free.  If someone wanted to hack it, it would make a very nice
addition to the palmtop collection.  For the demo, search for musedemo.zip
in www.shareware.com
The file demo.exe is the only one which will run on the palmtop.  Try the
other one on the desktop and you'll see how cool it really is.

Domingo

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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 6:02 PM
Subject: LXMusic.... Whoa! This thing is not working, yet.


> I downloaded the LXMusic program but cannot get it to start on my HP
200LX.
> The error comes up reading:
> "CGI.BGI graphics driver not found.
> Check the DOS path variable".
> I can't wait to use this. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and
what
> I should do?
> Oh yes, in plain English.
> Thanks,
> Ken

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:52:57 -0500
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Does anyone have an Omnibook 800CT setup they would like to sell?
Is there an Omnibook mailing list I can post to?  Please contact me
off-list at rclott@ro.com

Thanks,

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:35:40 -0700
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Has anyone found a game that could not be solved?

Don.

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Greetings, fellow palmtoppers!

I'm sure this question was asked before but ...
Finally after the long period of hesitation I looked at Lotus Agenda (!!! why I
didn't do that earlier?!)
and found that it is exactly what I was need for a long time. The question I
have is where I can find
the docs. First, I need something to better understand the very concept of the
program and second
 - learn to use it more efficiently. Can anyone point me to the right direction?
I know there are some books on the topic but I would prefer an e-version because
I would have a problem obtaining these books.

Thanks in advance,
Serge K.

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:12:46 GMT
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Hi Jesus,

>       Does anybody have the pinout/internal wiring layout of HP5181-6642 and
>       HP5181-6640 cable adapters?.
>       I'm able to link to my destop PC, but not to print... (printer goes wild
>       when trying to print...)
>       I use a 9-pin/9-pin null modem adapter piggy-backed to the standard cable.
>       Anyone doing his/her own cables?.

Did you connect your printer directly to the serial port of your
palmtop? Does the printer have a _serial_ interface?
If not, you have to use a serial to parallel adapter.

For cable and port pinouts have a look at the article I wrote a few
weeks ago about this topic. You can find it at

http://www.palmtop.net/more.html

Hope this will help you

daniel

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:12:51 GMT
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Hi friends,

Ý...¨
> polyphonic music on the palmtop).  Then, when I am satisfied, I transfer the
> type 1 midi file to my desktop pc, for further editing with FINALE98 for
> Windows, from which I then print the file.   I have printed sheet music from
> the palmtop with MusicPrinter Plus before, but Finale98 gives superior
> results, so I don't do it too often.
> MusicPrinter Plus is a commercial program.  I hear the company went belly
> up, so I am not sure of the best way to buy it (I bought mine the risky way,
> by putting an add on USENET.  Two people offered to sell me their copy).
>
> I have never heard of anyone else writing music on the palmtop this way . .

Anyone at all here who writes music on the palmtop?
I do it sometimes if I have too much time... ;-)

I use Capella for it, that's a commercial German notation program from
WHC software. It works pretty well on the palmtop; you can enter your
music either in real time (monophonic!) with a metronome ticking over
the speaker, or note by note.
It'S more comfortable tu use a mouse with Capella, but it also works
without. The new versions of Capella only work on Windows machines, but
the version 1.5 (what I have) works in DOS.

The results look very professional. One disadvantage: You cannot save
your music in MIDI format. But I think there are converters which can
convert a Capella ".ALL file to MIDI.

If you run Capella on a desktop machine with sound card, you can enter
the music with a MIDI keyboard and play it (polyphonic) over the sound
card.

Just for all who are interested.
I have nothing to do with the company which wrote Capella, I'm just a
customer of them.

GTX
daniel

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I finally had success with the installation of the LXMusic program. It was
my mistake. I apparently lost the CGA.bgu file when I unzipped the ZIP file.
My hat is off to Paul Haroun for a fine program. It is all I was hoping it
would be.
Ken
By the way, I am still trying to figure out my other problem with the HP
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If you are talking about lxdr, I hardly think $4.95 deserves three dollar
signs... :-)

rick

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:09:15 +0700, Steve Soper
<ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID> wrote:

> how to respond to individual messages inside the digest.  Is there an
> add-in for Post/LX that can help me out?

Yes there is an add-on but it cost more $$$.... Goin' Postal has this
feature built into it and it is quite spiffy :)

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Subject:      Pwr supply

Hi all

Found an adapter around the house from a long
forgotten gadget and wonder if it can be used on.
the LX.  Can some electrican tell me if these
power adapters are close enough to use on the LX?

                                     HP
Input                0.5a    0.3a
outut 12V        1.0a    0.75a

TIA,
yor pal al..........................................

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Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:

> Stan, the ability to work on 110-220 volts is very crucial for me because
> of my travel patterns. I am looking for a replacement and could not find
> any information about this HP adapter from HP's sites. Any idea who sells it?

I would expect that Thaddeus Computing (www.thaddeus.com) and
Shier System & Software (www.shier.com) and Thomas Rundel
(www.rundel-d.com) all sell the HP AC adapter.

It is HP part #F1011A, perhaps you cna search the Web for that
part number and find a vendor.


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Dragonbane <dragonbane@MY-DEJANEWS.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to register the Vertical Reader program?

Gilles Kohl is the author of Vertical Reader.  His Email
address is 76710.56@compuserve.com


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Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> In file A, there are categories 1,3,5.
> In file B I have categories 2 and 4.
>
> The question is: Would merging the files give me 1,2,3,4,5
> or garbage?

The answer is that nothing would happen.  The DB merge
operation looks at the field names in A and B and tries to
match them up.  If id does not find any that are the same,
then it will do nothing.  The merge function does not modify
the structure of any data base, it will just add records to a
data base if possible.  If it finds a common field name in A
and in B, then it will copy the records from the source file
to the destination file, but only fill in the common data
fields.

For example, file A has fields 1, 2 & 3 and file B has 3, 4 &
5. Merge A into B and B will keep all of its original records
and will have records added to it that equal the number of
records in A and those new records will have only data in
field 3 with 4 and 5 being empty.


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Rick Kozak wrote:
>
> If you are talking about lxdr, I hardly think $4.95 deserves three dollar
> signs... :-)

You are correct.  It would require an extra 1.95 dollar signs!!!!

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On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:49:48 -0400, Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> =
wrote:

> If you are talking about lxdr, I hardly think $4.95 deserves three =
dollar
> signs... :-)

Everyone seems so darn 'touchy' here lately! The quanity of dollars signs
was simply meant to imply that it cost a certain amount of money. I did
*not* know until now what the amount of money was.

Maybe it's just me, maybe I have become the 'list villan', if so, that is
fine with me. I can handle the job. It's just that I get 'fussed at' for
comparing the aspects of various products and now someone is griping for =
me
using 3 dollar signs.

Personally, I would like to consider all of you as friends and fellow
LX'ers, but geesh.... some of you seriously need to relax just a tad.
Unless, Al wants me to leave the list, I will continue to ask questions
and voice my opinions. If you don't like 'em or don't want to read 'em =
then
there is a key right next to the backspace key on your LX named DEL, use =
it
if you see the post is from me or create a filter and filter my posts to
/dev/null  I have been chastised and attacked in several ways and by =
several
people over the past month or so and guess what? I'm gonna start firing
back! Okay, my rant is over.... I sincerely hope Al doesn't set me to =
NOPOST
as chastisement... if he does, I'll continue to read the posts and get
whatever information I need from them. If he doesn't chastise me, I'll
continue to speak my mind, use whatever amount of dollar signs *I* feel
necessary and speak of *my* personal experiences with my LX and the
attachments and software that *I* use with *my* LX.

Everyone have a great afternoon..... I am, because I feel better now that =
I
have vented my frustrations in public =3D)

Jeff

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Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:20:06 -0400 (EDT)

18m26s ago ...
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Yor Pal Al wrote:

> Found an adapter around the house from a long
> forgotten gadget and wonder if it can be used on.
> the LX.  Can some electrican tell me if these
> power adapters are close enough to use on the LX?
>
>                                      HP
> Input                0.5a    0.3a
> outut 12V        1.0a    0.75a

Maybe.  Does it use the same size plug on the 12V side as the HP
adapter?  Also - VERY IMPORTANT - do you know the polarity of the 12V
connector?  The HP is center-contact-negative.  There should be a
symbol on the adapter to tell the polarity.  If not, chack with a
voltmeter if one's available.

Also most wall-warts are unregulated, so if you have a meter, check the
no-load voltage.  I think the palmtop accepts from 9.6 - 14.4 volts.
(It's in the manual).

HTH

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relax... it was said with a wink and a smile.

rick

> If you are talking about lxdr, I hardly think $4.95 deserves three dollar
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After learning from this list (thanks to Steffan and others) that the
200LX is supposed to shut itself off in DOS, I began experimenting with
my autoexec.bat to find the culprit.

Ultimately the following all work without disabling the shutoff:
        Battman  (from ace)
        andrew2
        cursor (to make a block cursor)
        diet
        MaxDos
        MoreEXM
        key200
        alarm

The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring Hisword,
to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?

Tom, could the program be modified to be compatible?

Shouldn't my 200 have shut itself down when the battery discharged to
some level?

I thought Battman did that, or the 200 itself.

Here is what happened. I was reading Hisword, turned of my 200 and went
to sleep. An alarm woke up the 200 (still in Hisword) and nothing shut
it off until everything was completely dead including drive c: (all data
lost)

Is the only solution to return to app manager?

Thanks,

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A rocket reader developed in a "clean room" (no inside info from
the Rocket Reader folks, no violation of any trade secrets or NDA
issues) should be 100% legal and free of any license claims from
them.

Now, the ACT of using the "clean room" reader to violate copyright
claims, and any other license agreed to when the book file was
acquired would be illegal/improper/wrong.

This is how HP (and others) made free (no license fees to Sun)
Java Virtual Machines...

Good luck,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:39 AM
Subject: Rocketbook?


>Hi all,
>
>Anybody looked into converting Rocketbook files? Some are freely
>downloadable as samples. I looked at it with List, it seems to be a
>compressed file with header info. The header mentions the seperate file
>names, amongst them html and png files. Is is basically a compressed web
>page? Would it be illegal to make a converter? Maybe a uncompressor for HV?
>Or plain text or VR?
>
>http://www.rocket-library.com/common2/Citizen.asp?id=fabrick for the
>samples.
>
>br
>
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Subject:      Database files and categories

Stan:
Thanks for your reply.

>> In file A, there are categories 1,3,5.
>> In file B I have categories 2 and 4.
>>
>> The question is: Would merging the files give me 1,2,3,4,5
>> or garbage?

I may not be too clear.  All fields ARE identical.
Only the subsets categories are different.

yor pal al.......................................


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>Peniel

 Also - VERY IMPORTANT - do you know the polarity of the 12V
>connector?  The HP is center-contact-negative.  There should be a
>symbol on the adapter to tell the polarity.

Yikes, The circled POS symbol goes inta the broken circle.
Guess, the center polarity is POS.

Learn something everyday,
Thanks a bunch.
Yor pal al..............................................




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How about just merging 2 small test files with different catagories and
see what happens.

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Yor Pal Al ÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
        Sent:   Thursday, June 10, 1999 2:44 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Database files and categories

        Stan:
        Thanks for your reply.

        >> In file A, there are categories 1,3,5.
        >> In file B I have categories 2 and 4.
        >>
        >> The question is: Would merging the files give me 1,2,3,4,5
        >> or garbage?

        I may not be too clear.  All fields ARE identical.
        Only the subsets categories are different.

        yor pal al.......................................



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  Stanley, what you described was correct.
  Your answer, however, was not correct.

  Al was asking about two sets of different *categories* (as in "1;3;5" and
"2;4" in two databases with a common-name category field).  Not two sets of
fields....

  I just tested it by creating two mini-databases (both contained the same
fields) and merging them.  The answer is that, as long as the fields have
the same name, the categories merge as well.  Al should get categories
"1;2;3;4;5" in the resulting database.  (Note: This assumes that the sum of
all the category-strings are shorter than some built-in database maximum.  I
think it's around 128 characters, but I'm not sure.  As long as it's under
128 chars, it should be ok...)

        ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stanley Dobrowski Ýmailto:stanleyd@CARROLL.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:03 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
> Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:
>
> > In file A, there are categories 1,3,5.
> > In file B I have categories 2 and 4.
> >
> > The question is: Would merging the files give me 1,2,3,4,5
> > or garbage?
>
> The answer is that nothing would happen.  The DB merge
> operation looks at the field names in A and B and tries to
> match them up.  If id does not find any that are the same,
> then it will do nothing.  The merge function does not modify
> the structure of any data base, it will just add records to a
> data base if possible.  If it finds a common field name in A
> and in B, then it will copy the records from the source file
> to the destination file, but only fill in the common data
> fields.
>
> For example, file A has fields 1, 2 & 3 and file B has 3, 4 &
> 5. Merge A into B and B will keep all of its original records
> and will have records added to it that equal the number of
> records in A and those new records will have only data in
> field 3 with 4 and 5 being empty.
>
>
> Stan
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Comments: To: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>

Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> Even while off, the palmtop will draw power exclusively from
> the AC adapter when it is connected.  So, there is not any
> load on any batteries.  Of course, charging must be disabled
> in order to turn the palmtop off while on the AC adapter.

Not if you use Mack's bios message killer.  I can now turn my palmtop
off and on even when plugged in (very handy for changing PC cards).


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Subject:      Database files and categories

Thanks one and all for contributions for this big
problem (for me).  Yes, I could have tried it with
smaller DBs but I thought someone might have the
ans on the top of their heads and save me from
reinventinting the wheel from the storehouse of
many minds.  Other than helping just me, it may
have helped a few good lurkers.

Kunfucious say, The best question is one that will help many.
Thanks again one and all.
yor pal al............................................

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:23:03 -0500
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On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:42:27 -0400, Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> =
wrote:

> relax... it was said with a wink and a smile.

I'm tired of relaxing. I'm one heck of a nice guy, but from now on I will
temper my kindness and be as moody as everyone else.

Jeff

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               ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
               ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:18:06 -0500
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To all interested LX'ers, I have sent Mitch three archives of Japanese
software for possible inclusion on the S.U.P.E.R. site. Ther archives are =
as
follows:

MIMAC - Turns your desktop into a Mac kinda look complete with a cursor =
that
        is movable with the arrow keys and allows the opening of built-in
        applications by clicking on icons

MACTOP - Topcards required for use with MIMAC

DATEMAN/ - More software to help transform the LX into a MAC look and =
feel,
ICNDSP     includes a translation of the DATEMAN.DOC from Japanese to
           English by our own Yujin Nagasana (Thanks, Yujin)

If, for some reason, Mitch feels that he can not distrubite the files =
from
the S.U.P.E.R. site (there were some problems with some Japanese authors =
in
the past), I will be more than happy to send these files to whomever =
might
like to play with them.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:42:23 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Has anyone found a game that could not be solved?

I haven't heard of anyone winning 947293 yet.  I finally
admitted defeat and moved on to a new game.  It's my first loss
in over 440 games.  :-(

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:56:53 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Jeff:

"I'm tired of relaxing" - is a very good example of an interesting Figure
of Speech that I shall not name lest it encourages anyone to start another
of these discussions about PC, sensitivity, etc :)

We seem to be in a Figure of Speech mood today - please don't temper your
kindness just because there is a kind of temper being shown in some kinds
of messages that generally raise the temperature on this list!

Hope you feel better now - I for one was amused with your choice of words.
Couldn't resist a response :)

Anand.


At 07:23 PM 10-06-1999 Thursday -0500, Jeff Johns wrote:

>
>I'm tired of relaxing. I'm one heck of a nice guy, but from now on I will
>temper my kindness and be as moody as everyone else.
>
>Jeff
>

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

> Federico from Argentina
>
> Dear Friends.
> I thing you are an expert of the Quicken.
> I have a Palmtop 200lx with 32Mb + Turbo (Made for Mack Baguette)
> How is the biggest size than supports the files of the Quicken?
> Is it well carry out a Trim.
> When I carry out a Trim, Why after do that, is not reduced the
> file?
>
> I don't have the Quicken for Windows.
> What you recommends me to
> do, in order to don't have to open new files in the Quicken,
> having to enter again all the counts, to continued the same
> file?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dr Federico M. Nachpitz
> E-Mail     : nachpitzfede@movi.com.ar
>            : fnachpitz@intramed.net.ar
> Beeper/Mail: 16226@radiomensaje.com.ar
> Tel        : 011-4377-2442
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive
>

> When I carry out a Trim, Why after do that, is not reduced the
> file?
>
> I don't have the Quicken for Wndows.
> What you recommends me to
> do, in order to don't have to open new files in the Quicken,
> having to enter again all the counts, to continued the same
> file?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dr Federico M. Nachpitz
> E-Mail     : nachpitzfede@movi.com.ar
>            : fnachpitz@intramed.net.ar
> Beeper/Mail: 16226@radiomensaje.com.ar
> Tel        : 011-4377-2442
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive
>


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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:33:20 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Hi all,

I'm working on a little utility program which will look at a data file
(in *.?db format) and determine that the file is in good working
order. You could use this utility to scan your data files to make sure
you don't back up a corrupted file. It's pretty simple and is only
about 7 kbytes, but I'd like to test it with some files that are
corrupted to make sure it finds the problems.

Trouble is, I don't have any corrupted files to test it with. If you
have one or more, please send them to me. I will use them only for
testing the utility and won't let anyone else have them. I won't even
look at your data, I just want to make sure the program finds typical
problems.

--=20
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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:49:28 -0700
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Just got my 200LX back from Thaddeus.  I got the 8MB DoubleSpeed
upgrade.  All I can say is..  WOW!  Thanks Hal and all you others
at Thaddeus Computing!

Brian Sugita
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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:43:54 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Jeff,

If you could move your tag line 4 or 5 spaces to the left it would not
consume a whole page (every line wraps) on my palmtop (64 spaces) in
the middle size font that I use to read the list with my tired old
eyes. (G)  Thanks.    =3DBob=3D

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>                ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:13:18 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: bob <bobv@SOS.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 5:59 PM
Subject: Auot shutoff in DOS


> The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
> listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring Hisword,
> to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?

I stared at Hisword for 3 minutes, then it went off . . .

> Here is what happened. I was reading Hisword, turned of my 200 and went
> to sleep. An alarm woke up the 200 (still in Hisword) and nothing shut
> it off until everything was completely dead including drive c: (all data
> lost)

Which program produced the alarm?

> Is the only solution to return to app manager?

Aha! So it is not app manager.  I have used some clock programs (including
Jorgen Walgreen's) with great delight, until I started noticing strange
interactions with other programs.  I love Jorgen's clock program, but its
behavior is suspicious to me.  So that's where I'd lay the blame.  Man, do I
miss those big numbers!

Domingo

P.S.  One of the strange things that Jorgen's program is known for doing, is
sound an alarm even when the volume is turned off on Sysmgr!  I would feel
better if it wasn't for the fact that this behavior is not consistent.  It
seems to be an aggressive program (as far as working with Sysmgr.  Like I
said, I do love the program, but I no longer use it because of problems
which I lay at its door . . .

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:05:57 -0700
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>> The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
>> listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring
Hisword,
>> to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?
>
>I stared at Hisword for 3 minutes, then it went off . . .

Domingo, what version of Hisword are you running? I have v.1.21 and it
does NOT turn off (I waited 5 minutes to verify)

>> Here is what happened. I was reading Hisword, turned of my 200 and
went
>> to sleep. An alarm woke up the 200 (still in Hisword) and nothing
shut
>> it off until everything was completely dead including drive c: (all
data
>> lost)
>
>Which program produced the alarm?

No, it was only the built-in PIM - "Appointments"

>> Is the only solution to return to app manager?

Sorry, I misstated - "app manager" should have been written "sysmgr"
No, I'm not using Jorgen's clock.

Bob

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:09:16 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Sometimes, the page to download contains many images, and I just wish I could
let WWW/LX download them and let me read what's readable (mainly, the text) and
not show me the little "image download progress" dialog.

How do we do this?

BTW, after trying to use WWW/LX for any length of time, I discovered how fast
the "live" connection eats through my Duracell batteries. Is there any way to
realistically use the LX with a PCMCIA modem for any length of time without
being tied to a wall? I'm thinking in particular about, say, being in an airport
at a pay phone with no outlet in sight...

And also, does anyone use a portable version of an acoustic coupler? What can
you find them and how well do they work?

You see, I'm trying to find a simple "wireless" setup, but so far, nothing seems
to be working quite well... Can't wait until Sprint PCS comes up with a way to
connect through their cellphones!

Thanks!

Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:36:18 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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A while back there was a brief flurry of discussion about HP's
Capshare scanner. The thread died pretty quickly, and I havent
seen `word one' about the Capshare in comp.periphs.scanners
or any other HP list. And I haven't seen any reviews based on
actual use.

Are they out? Did anyone here get one? Any comments about how they
work? Anyone seen reviews anywhere?

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:42:47 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Tech: More Post/LX Maxdos Questions/Problems
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Andreas,

2 wks ago I started having problems with ATT & WWW/LX.  But only my local =
#'s (33.6 and 56K).  I can dial the ATT 800# or say Hawaii and get on =
with no problems.  Fred K. just started having problems in Seatle a =
couple days ago.  Avi suggested adding IPCPcomp=3D1, or =3D0.  I did =
connect once or twice locally with that addition, but it fail almost all =
other tries (20 or 25 tries.  I gave up for now and use the 800# at 10 =
cents/minute.  What does the =3D1 and =3D0 do?

Is there a newer WWW/LX that I might try for this particular problem.  Of =
course the winhose stuff works OK from the laptop. |-(  Damn Cisco router =
software. ;-(     =3DBob=3D

> For some reason, the other side does not want to establish the
> connection. Could it be you use AT&t as your ISP? They seem to have
> some problems recently.

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:36:11 -0500
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              Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM>
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      Re: HisWord & Auto shutoff
Comments: To: bob <bobv@SOS.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <3760354E.CA1C0FEA@sos.net>; from bob on Thu, Jun 10,
              1999 at 02:59:46PM -0700
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On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:59:46PM -0700, bob wrote:
> The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
> listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring Hisword,
> to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?

HisWord itself doesn't do anything to disable the shutoff.  I just verified it on my machine and it shutoff like it should.

> Here is what happened. I was reading Hisword, turned of my 200 and went
> to sleep. An alarm woke up the 200 (still in Hisword) and nothing shut
> it off until everything was completely dead including drive c: (all data
> lost)

I just tried to duplicate the sequence of events.  I set an alarm, started HisWord, waited for the LX to automatically shutdown (it did), the alarm re-awoke the LX, and then waited once more for the LX to automatically shutdown (it did).

I'd suspect a TSR is causing a conflict...if not that, I don't have any other ideas.

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <tom@hisword.net> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:39:01 -0500
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      Re: Auto shutoff
Comments: To: bob <bobv@SOS.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <37608B25.52312126@sos.net>; from bob on Thu, Jun 10,
              1999 at 09:05:57PM -0700
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On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:05:57PM -0700, bob wrote:
> >> The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
> >> listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring
> Hisword,
> >> to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?
> >
> >I stared at Hisword for 3 minutes, then it went off . . .
>
> Domingo, what version of Hisword are you running? I have v.1.21 and it
> does NOT turn off (I waited 5 minutes to verify)

v1.21 is the latest and greatest, and has been since 1997 (has it been nearly two years since I worked on HisWord???)  :-(

--
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    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:15:00 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
> Box, the indexing process REALLY speeds up -- anyone know if I can tell
> Post/LX to *NOT* index as often?

POST/LX cannot access the data without an up to date index, so it *has*
to reindex if a file has changed. Maybe you want to try splitting a
huge file into some folders that are smaller.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:17:33 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hoover <thoover@GEOCITIES.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Auto shutoff


> On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:05:57PM -0700, bob wrote:
> > >> The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
> > >> listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring
> > Hisword,
> > >> to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?
> > >I stared at Hisword for 3 minutes, then it went off . . .
> > Domingo, what version of Hisword are you running? I have v.1.21 and it
> > does NOT turn off (I waited 5 minutes to verify)

The only thing I can think of adding to what Tom wrote is to reboot the
palmtop with a clean enviroment (no TSR's) and then try to duplicate your
problem.  If it doesn't occur again, then a TSR is at fault.  If it does,
then, beats me!


> v1.21 is the latest and greatest, and has been since 1997 (has it been
nearly two years since I worked on HisWord???)  :-(

It would be great if the rest of the menu commands worked on the palmtop.  A
nice addition would be multiple word search and phrase search, plus
implementing the hypertext jumps and more editing.  Then I would not need
the Online Bible program anymore!

Domingo

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From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: LXMusic.... Wow!


> Anyone at all here who writes music on the palmtop?
> I do it sometimes if I have too much time... ;-)
> (snip Capella stuff)

Interesting.  Another possible option is a shareware program from Simtel
called NoteWorthy for dos (not to be confused with the windows program by
the same name).
This program does not play any music, but it has stunning music printing,
and it's the easiest to use music notation program I have ever seen! The
keyboard commands are highly  intuitive.
I corresponded with the author a while back (before he released the current
version), and he seemed interested in porting the program for cga graphics
on the palmtop.  But then I obtained MusicPrinter Plus, and forgot about it
. . .

In my college days I heard of a number of commercial dos music programs, but
I don't remember their names anymore.  I wish I did, because some of them
seemed promising (Finale even came out for DOS once, but it need a 386 and
ega graphics, even at that time).  I don't know if cakewalk for dos would
run on the palmtop, but then could a MIDI keyboard be connected to the
palmtop?  It is more of a sequencer.

Domingo

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:41:09 -0400
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Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: printing methods


> Though I haven't tried it, I believe that you can also "print through" a
desktop
> PC from a palmtop with the standard DOS Interlink/Interserver.
>
> An advantage to this would be that you shouldn't need to carry a diskette.
> Simply keep Interlink on the palmtop, and most PCs you find will have DOS
6 or
> later, including Interserver, already installed.
>
> Any comments from someone who has done this?

After some pretty extensive testing and checking, I believe the use of the
printer ports with Interlink/Interserver is strictly for data transfer, not
for printing.  So it is not a printing option.

Omniprint also did not work for me outside of Sysmgr.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:37:52 GMT
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hi friends,

when I try to start LXMUSIC, I get a
runtime error 002 at 0000:016A.

Does anyone know what this means?

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:37:24 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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In addition to the no-load voltage, is the **AC** voltage at the output of
any consequence? Most power supplies do have an AC component - I don't know
how tolerant the palmtop is to these ripples.

Anand.

At 05:30 PM 10-06-1999 Thursday -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:20:06 -0400 (EDT)
>
>18m26s ago ...
>On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
>> Found an adapter around the house from a long
>> forgotten gadget and wonder if it can be used on.
>> the LX.  Can some electrican tell me if these
>> power adapters are close enough to use on the LX?
>>
>>                                      HP
>> Input                0.5a    0.3a
>> outut 12V        1.0a    0.75a
>
>Maybe.  Does it use the same size plug on the 12V side as the HP
>adapter?  Also - VERY IMPORTANT - do you know the polarity of the 12V
>connector?  The HP is center-contact-negative.  There should be a
>symbol on the adapter to tell the polarity.  If not, chack with a
>voltmeter if one's available.
>
>Also most wall-warts are unregulated, so if you have a meter, check the
>no-load voltage.  I think the palmtop accepts from 9.6 - 14.4 volts.
>(It's in the manual).
>
>HTH
>
>-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:33:28 +0800
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Stan, Thanks....
Considering their high mind-share in this group it is easy to forget that
there are vendors other than Thaddeus! They only sell 110V adapters -
wonder why. Shier do have the part - will get it from them if I can figure
out a way to do so without paying more for shipping to Hong Kong than the
cost of the product itself.

Anand.

At 05:03 PM 10-06-1999 Thursday -0400, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:
>
>> Stan, the ability to work on 110-220 volts is very crucial for me because
>> of my travel patterns. I am looking for a replacement and could not find
>> any information about this HP adapter from HP's sites. Any idea who
sells it?
>
>I would expect that Thaddeus Computing (www.thaddeus.com) and
>Shier System & Software (www.shier.com) and Thomas Rundel
>(www.rundel-d.com) all sell the HP AC adapter.
>
>It is HP part #F1011A, perhaps you cna search the Web for that
>part number and find a vendor.
>
>
>Stan
>

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:50:38 +0800
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Curtis,

NOW you tell me! A month ago I could have inundated you with corrupted data
files! Let's wait and see when corruption next rears its ugly head. Based
on the discussions on this topic so far I am sure we have discovered
several DIY methods of messing up the data!

Anand.

At 02:33 AM 11-06-1999 Friday +0000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm working on a little utility program which will look at a data file
>(in *.?db format) and determine that the file is in good working
>order. You could use this utility to scan your data files to make sure
>you don't back up a corrupted file. It's pretty simple and is only
>about 7 kbytes, but I'd like to test it with some files that are
>corrupted to make sure it finds the problems.
>
>Trouble is, I don't have any corrupted files to test it with. If you
>have one or more, please send them to me. I will use them only for
>testing the utility and won't let anyone else have them. I won't even
>look at your data, I just want to make sure the program finds typical
>problems.
>
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Domingo,

I too liked the aesthetics of Jorgen's clock program but took it off along
with several others in order to have a clean setup when faced with data
corruption.

It could have been a coincidence, but I strongly suspect that a small test
program written by me using LXBatch was also not so benign to the data.
Anyone else had any similar problems with LXBatch?

Anand.


At 11:13 PM 10-06-1999 Thursday -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

>Aha! So it is not app manager.  I have used some clock programs (including
>Jorgen Walgreen's) with great delight, until I started noticing strange
>interactions with other programs.  I love Jorgen's clock program, but its
>behavior is suspicious to me.  So that's where I'd lay the blame.  Man, do I
>miss those big numbers!
>
>Domingo
>
>P.S.  One of the strange things that Jorgen's program is known for doing, is
>sound an alarm even when the volume is turned off on Sysmgr!  I would feel
>better if it wasn't for the fact that this behavior is not consistent.  It
>seems to be an aggressive program (as far as working with Sysmgr.  Like I
>said, I do love the program, but I no longer use it because of problems
>which I lay at its door . . .
>

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>Omniprint also did not work for me outside of Sysmgr.

I had no problems with printing outside of Sysmgr. But I had to change the
printing settings in some programs. For example, if a program enables the
printing to a file, select this option and give it the filename COM1. It won\'t
print to a file, but would ignore some BIOS stuff that makes trouble. Also for
the programs, that have not the possibility of printing to a file or to COM1,
download the Program PRNTOFL from www.simtel.net. You can reroute the printout
to a filename. Give the filename COM1. with the dot. So it would print to
OmniPrint on the desktop.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:23:32 +0200
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the icon server is a great idea!

what about providing the zipped icons on the super site for download "all at
once"?

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:28:09 +0200
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hi programmers

could anybody help me with the folllowing problem:

i use NKIT and turbo C 2.0. when using the m_tell function to determine the
current file position, only tho low-order word contains valid data, the
high-order word seems to contain a pointer segment. so i can use it only for
file positions smaller than 65535.

does anybody know a solution to the problem or a workaround?

tia
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Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:00:24 -0500 (EST)

08h51m08s ago ...
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Fryday wrote:

> ...  BTW, after trying to use WWW/LX for any length of time, I
> discovered how fast  the "live" connection eats through my Duracell
> batteries. Is there any way to  realistically use the LX with a PCMCIA
> modem for any length of time without  being tied to a wall? I'm
> thinking in particular about, say, being in an airport  at a pay phone
> with no outlet in sight...

     I thought about getting a 2x "D" cell battery pack from
RatShack(or similar) and setting it up in parallel with the AAs in the
LX. Somefing gauge wire and some thin metal contacts should due the
trick after modifying the battery compartment cover to accept the
wire...A little VELCRO and you shouldbe able to go online for an Hour
or more...anyone know the mAH of Alkaline D cells?


>    And also, does anyone use a portable
> version of an acoustic coupler? What can  you find them and how well
> do they work?

     I have one I'm willing to sell...please EMail off list if your
interested.


>    You see, I'm trying to find a simple "wireless" setup, but so far,
> nothing seems  to be working quite well... Can't wait until Sprint PCS
> comes up with a way to  connect through their cellphones!

     A Motorola MicroTAC analog cell phone & APEX MobilePlus MODEM do
the trick for me.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:18:58 -0700
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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Sergei,

Did you see the following?

> From: Mike Melancon <melancon@microgear.net>
>
> I am under orders from the "War Department" at my house to clear out some of the
extra
> stuff from my computer corner in the den.  I look for anything  at swap meets or
> auctions that works with or runs on my 200LX and wind up with duplicates - she
just
> doesn't understand why I would buy something I already have a dozen of :>)
>
> Here's a list with asking prices -- please contact me off the list to buy or make
offer
on anything.
>
> Lotus Agenda 2.0 (w/ manuals)   USED 125.00 (with new disk set unopened)

A complete set of manuals is *very rare*!

Wayne

Sergei Kozemiakin wrote:

> Greetings, fellow palmtoppers!
>
> I'm sure this question was asked before but ...
> Finally after the long period of hesitation I looked at Lotus Agenda (!!! why I
> didn't do that earlier?!)
> and found that it is exactly what I was need for a long time. The question I
> have is where I can find
> the docs. First, I need something to better understand the very concept of the
> program and second
>  - learn to use it more efficiently. Can anyone point me to the right direction?
> I know there are some books on the topic but I would prefer an e-version because
> I would have a problem obtaining these books.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Serge K.
>
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Hi

A few days back somebody posted the URL of a site that compared
the power consumption of various PCMCIA modems. Unfortunately
I've lost the address (and the original post).

Could you re-post it please?

Many thanks

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:48:25 +0100
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Hi Jeff,

I think everyone on the list feels like you from time to time.
Whenever there is discussion, there are opposite opinions or
attitudes which sometimes heat up the debate. As everyone knows,
with the medium we are using here it is especially difficult to
ensure that the receiver gets the message the way it was meant
by the author (and it is even more diffcult for people with a
limited english vocabulary, like me). And sometimes people just
don't think too much about what they write (does not exclude
me).

Normally we would all sit down together, have a beer or two and
sing some songs from the old days. Does not work here,
unfortunately. Maybe there will be a HPLX-L-World-Summit one
day?

(To everyone: I apologize for using the word "beer" here, I know
it is not PC, whatever this means - and always remember to
recycle your empty beer bottles  :-) )

Reinhard

PS: Hope you relax again.


> Everyone seems so darn 'touchy' here lately! The quanity of dollars signs
> was simply meant to imply that it cost a certain amount of money. I did
> *not* know until now what the amount of money was.
>
> Maybe it's just me, maybe I have become the 'list villan', if so, that is
> fine with me. I can handle the job. It's just that I get 'fussed at' for
> comparing the aspects of various products and now someone is griping for
> me
> using 3 dollar signs.
>
> Personally, I would like to consider all of you as friends and fellow
> LX'ers, but geesh.... some of you seriously need to relax just a tad.
> Unless, Al wants me to leave the list, I will continue to ask questions
> and voice my opinions. If you don't like 'em or don't want to read 'em
> then
> there is a key right next to the backspace key on your LX named DEL, use
> it
> if you see the post is from me or create a filter and filter my posts to
> /dev/null  I have been chastised and attacked in several ways and by
> several
> people over the past month or so and guess what? I'm gonna start firing
> back! Okay, my rant is over.... I sincerely hope Al doesn't set me to
> NOPOST
> as chastisement... if he does, I'll continue to read the posts and get
> whatever information I need from them. If he doesn't chastise me, I'll
> continue to speak my mind, use whatever amount of dollar signs *I* feel
> necessary and speak of *my* personal experiences with my LX and the
> attachments and software that *I* use with *my* LX.

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On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, David Cripps wrote:

> A few days back somebody posted the URL of a site that compared
> the power consumption of various PCMCIA modems. Unfortunately
> I've lost the address (and the original post).
>
> Could you re-post it please?


http://www.cewindows.net/pccrdpwr.htm


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On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:48:25 +0100, Reinhard Mueller <molitor@moli.franken=
.de> wrote:

> (To everyone: I apologize for using the word "beer" here, I know
> it is not PC, whatever this means - and always remember to
> recycle your empty beer bottles  :-) )

Beer is always PC where I come from, as is most forms of liqour <g>!

Jeff

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For anyone interested in these machines, http://www.intellesale.com
(aka Data Path Technologies) is offering:

    HP OmniBook 800CT with 166 Mhz MMX CPU, 2.1 Gig HD, 80
    Meg RAM refurbished, with 30 - 90 (I don't remember exact duration)
    warranty

for $699. I've bought from them before, and had pretty good luck with
them (my latest was a Compaq LTE 5300 w 12.1" Active Matrix
screen, 32 Meg RAM and 1.3 Gig HD for $470 (incl. S/H), and when
I got the laptop it was in very good physical condition with a nearly
new battery... YMMV, but they seem to do things right).

I have an OB800CT (166 Mhz w/80 Meg RAM and 4 Gig HD), and is
is a very nice system, IMHO...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT


>Does anyone have an Omnibook 800CT setup they would like to sell?
>Is there an Omnibook mailing list I can post to?  Please contact me
>off-list at rclott@ro.com

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Rick,
    I did notice your smiley :¬), but I just wanted to point out
that it is very common in the maillists I am on for people to
use multiple dollar signs as a short hand for "money," not
an indication that it is alot/excessive amount of money.

No biggie, HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Breaking Apart the Digests


>If you are talking about lxdr, I hardly think $4.95 deserves three dollar
>signs... :-)
>
>rick
>
>On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:09:15 +0700, Steve Soper
><ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID> wrote:
>
>> how to respond to individual messages inside the digest.  Is there an
>> add-in for Post/LX that can help me out?
>
>Yes there is an add-on but it cost more $$$.... Goin' Postal has this
>feature built into it and it is quite spiffy :)
>
>73 Jeff W4JEF
>
>    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
>    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
>    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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So, if I had the previous two tables (one with 1, 3, and 5, the other
with 2 and 4), if I wnated to merge them together I would want to
define a third table with columns 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 defined, and then
merge the first table into it (populating columns 1, 3, and 5), then
merging the second table into that third table (populating columns
2 aqnd 4), right?

Thanks,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 5:05 PM
Subject: Database files and categories


>Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:
>
>> In file A, there are categories 1,3,5.
>> In file B I have categories 2 and 4.
>>
>> The question is: Would merging the files give me 1,2,3,4,5
>> or garbage?
>
>The answer is that nothing would happen.  The DB merge
>operation looks at the field names in A and B and tries to
>match them up.  If id does not find any that are the same,
>then it will do nothing.  The merge function does not modify
>the structure of any data base, it will just add records to a
>data base if possible.  If it finds a common field name in A
>and in B, then it will copy the records from the source file
>to the destination file, but only fill in the common data
>fields.
>
>For example, file A has fields 1, 2 & 3 and file B has 3, 4 &
>5. Merge A into B and B will keep all of its original records
>and will have records added to it that equal the number of
>records in A and those new records will have only data in
>field 3 with 4 and 5 being empty.
>
>
>Stan
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> Stephan Goeldi

> <Isn\'t WP51 also slow on the palmtop?>

> No, it runs as fast as the built-in apps. Of course, the start needs some
> seconds. I always was amazed about the speed of this powerfull program,
even on
> on the slowest PC with a 85ms Harddisk (tested!).

> -goe-

     I have used it on a Z-150 with two floppies.  Zenith's copy of the
IBM PC.  8 MHz and _slow_ mass(?) storage.  It was very usable.

     I saw an earlier version on a real PC/XT with only 256 k of memory.
It worked, but swapped to disk, so was slow.

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> Date:    Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:23:07 -0500
> From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> Subject: RANT: Was Re: Breaking Apart the Digests
>
 <--- snip --->
>
> Everyone have a great afternoon..... I am, because I feel better now
that =
> I
> have vented my frustrations in public =3D)
>
> Jeff

Glad you were able to get it off your chest without "Goin' Postal" Jeff
;¬{)#

Jon

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After discovering last week that ExKey024 interferes with some
of the Ctrl-keys in Appt on my machine, I decided to try KEY200
to do the key remapping that I was doing in ExKey.

I've got almost all of it working except for one section and I'm
hoping that someone knows more about KEY200 than I do.

I am trying to have the More key call up TBLX (defined by
MoreExm as Alt-F8), and more the original definition of
&... More back to Fn-More.   I have the following in my
KEY200.ini file:

=============== snippet ===================
Fn More : More ¬More
Alt More : Alt More ¬More ¬Alt
Ctrl More : Ctrl More ¬More ¬Ctrl
More : Alt F8 ¬F8 ¬Alt
========================================

More, Ctrl-More, Alt-More all work as expected.  However,
Fn-More does not call up AppMgr.  Rather, it calls up the
function keybar at the bottom of the screen in Appt, or
brings up "Locating     " bar at the top of the screen in Phone.
The docs in KEY200.TXT clearly indicate that one should
be able to move the original definition to another key
(Example 1).

Any help greatly appreciated!

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Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:18:45 -0400 (EDT)

06h37m29s ago ...
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Anand Rao wrote:

> Considering their high mind-share in this group it is easy to forget =
that
> there are vendors other than Thaddeus! They only sell 110V adapters -
> wonder why.

I was wondering where you got this idea.  8-)  Then I looked in the
Thaddeus catalog, and saw a statement that all their adapters are only
for 110V.  Strange, considering that they sell the HP adapter.  Does
anyone know if the design of the HP 1011 adapter has changed?  They
used to be 110/220V.

-Peniel
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Hi There!

I would like to check if anyone has been able to create a nice Note
Field in an EXM program? 100/200LX has the MultiEdit Line feature, but
it's a joke- all text gets highlighted (inverted) and cursor goes to the
end- every time this field get the focus. So with other words- far from
the professional look and feel as the built-in Note Taker application.

Another problem with MultiEdit is that if you have a big buffer with
text, it's very slow when you edit and scroll the text.

Ok, this could be fixed by sending some keystrokes as soon as this field
gets the focus. But the result is that you get a flashing screen and
that doesn't look nice!

I would highly appreciate if anyone could assist me here, since the
program I am working on needs a note field and I just refuse to use the
stupid MultiEdit function.

Thanks and Regards,


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$699 is a pretty good price, especially with 80mb RAM (normal config is 16mb).

Almost tempted to buy a 2nd one...too bad they didn't provide a 4gig harddrive
rather than the stock 2gig.  And also that the unit is reconditioned (sounds
like a non-HP job since the 90 day warranty is with Intellesale and not with
HP).

- Longden





Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> on 06/10/99 08:00:41 PM

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Subject:  Re: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT




For anyone interested in these machines, http://www.intellesale.com
(aka Data Path Technologies) is offering:

    HP OmniBook 800CT with 166 Mhz MMX CPU, 2.1 Gig HD, 80
    Meg RAM refurbished, with 30 - 90 (I don't remember exact duration)
    warranty

for $699. I've bought from them before, and had pretty good luck with
them (my latest was a Compaq LTE 5300 w 12.1" Active Matrix
screen, 32 Meg RAM and 1.3 Gig HD for $470 (incl. S/H), and when
I got the laptop it was in very good physical condition with a nearly
new battery... YMMV, but they seem to do things right).

I have an OB800CT (166 Mhz w/80 Meg RAM and 4 Gig HD), and is
is a very nice system, IMHO...

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Hi Curtis.

Glad to hear that the long-awaited DB-diagnostic utility is near at hand.  But
as far as sending you samples, I'm afraid I have more DBs than time to check
them.  You may be aware that some corrupted DBs don't manifest themselves until
you actually step into the record (ie vs just opening them).

I don't currently have a known corrupted DB to send you, but I'd be willing to
alpha test your program (on copies of my various DBs) if you'd be willing to
email me a copy of the program.  Naturally I assume all the risks in doing the
testing...hopefully 20 years in computing has given me a clue on being careful
<g>... (I've watched many a good bytes go up in digital smoke already).

- Longden





Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> on 06/10/99 07:33:20 PM

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Hi all,

I'm working on a little utility program which will look at a data file
(in *.?db format) and determine that the file is in good working
order. You could use this utility to scan your data files to make sure
you don't back up a corrupted file. It's pretty simple and is only
about 7 kbytes, but I'd like to test it with some files that are
corrupted to make sure it finds the problems.

Trouble is, I don't have any corrupted files to test it with. If you
have one or more, please send them to me. I will use them only for
testing the utility and won't let anyone else have them. I won't even
look at your data, I just want to make sure the program finds typical
problems.

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I too did not believe it, even the printed catalog. And someone from
Thaddeus replied to my email confirming that the adapters were only for 110V.

If nothing else works, I have my contingency plan ready - use ABC/LX to
monitor the battery level and if the batteries need topping up use the 110V
Shaver supply in the hotel bathrooms. :)


Anand.

At 09:36 PM 11-06-99 Friday , Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
>> Considering their high mind-share in this group it is easy to forget that
>> there are vendors other than Thaddeus! They only sell 110V adapters -
>> wonder why.
>
>I was wondering where you got this idea.  8-)  Then I looked in the
>Thaddeus catalog, and saw a statement that all their adapters are only
>for 110V.  Strange, considering that they sell the HP adapter.  Does
>anyone know if the design of the HP 1011 adapter has changed?  They
>used to be 110/220V.
>
>-Peniel
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Subject:      Battery Discharge & Re: Breaking Apart the Digests
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It is the humour that finally wins the day - Thanks, Reinhard :)

Now on to the battery question. Does anyone have any information on the
Discharge Curve of NiMH batteries? I am trying out ABC/LX for the past
couple of days and could not figure out if it can give me a graph of
Voltage vs Usage Hours. Is there any other software that does this? I am
curious to see how the battery voltage drops with usage. Of course it
depends on what the usage involves - serial port on or off, I/O on the
PCMCIA card, etc. However, it will help to know the voltage trend for my
typical usage.

Anand.

 At 09:48 PM 11-06-99 Friday , Reinhard Mueller wrote:

>(To everyone: I apologize for using the word "beer" here, I know
>it is not PC, whatever this means - and always remember to
>recycle your empty beer bottles  :-) )
>
>Reinhard
>

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Hi all !

In the absence of both halves of my brain which have been
sent to Thaddeus for repair, I continue using the LX Programs on my
Desktop via APP100 from the Connectivity Pack and POSTLX via PALRUN,
with the Flashcard inserted in the card reader.

There is just one problem: As an editor for POSTLX I have to use MS-Notepa=
d,
as I do not know how to call the PE-Menu while composing/editing
messages. Control-M, ALT-F10 and / (slash), as indicated in the PALRUN
manual, do not work.

Would anybody know how to invoke the Menu Line in PalEdit from a
Desktop Keyboard so that I can return to PE as the POSTLX editor ?

Thanks for any help
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Hey-

Is anyone using the comm port as a parallel
port to connect to printers/etc?  I have an
application that needs a parallel connection
but I have just a lowly 2mb memory and thus
need to use the card slot for more disk.  Am
I correct that one would need another null
modem connector in addition to a serial-parallel
plug AND some kind of a driver/TSR that
sends parallel stuff out the serial port?  I
am obviously talking in huge generalities here...

Does anyone know the specifics on how to do this?

Dennis Bell
Seattle

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I think SUPER has a program called BATTLOG to log the discharge voltage over
time (both a freeware and shareware version).

ABC/LX doesn't have the feature built-in (at least not my version), but the
DASoft website (www.dasoft.com) has a link to download ABCUTIL.ZIP which has a
utility to log voltages also... it has to be run as a DOS command and can be
setup to run as an appointment. (see the dasoft FTP link for ABC).

- Longden





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Subject:  Battery Discharge & Re: Breaking Apart the Digests




Now on to the battery question. Does anyone have any information on the
Discharge Curve of NiMH batteries? I am trying out ABC/LX for the past
couple of days and could not figure out if it can give me a graph of
Voltage vs Usage Hours. Is there any other software that does this? I am
curious to see how the battery voltage drops with usage. Of course it
depends on what the usage involves - serial port on or off, I/O on the
PCMCIA card, etc. However, it will help to know the voltage trend for my
typical usage.

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Subject:      Fluffy wish machine

OK dreamers:  Tell me about it ( a better daster color
machine) with a minimum of fuss and $$$.   Not worring
(too much) about power.  Some dude changing batts
once a month isn't worring about patts huh?

Two avenues of approach:
Take the current machine and upgrade it with a better
faster chip, but not too fast, then what about better video?
This renovation seems like reinventing the wheel.

A better approach is to take the best winCE clone and
downgrade it by replacing the cpu that can do DOS,
keeping the video.  They usually start with 64MB mem, maybe
we can up that a wee.
A Libretto in a smaller case. We don't even need windows.
What are the problems?  What is the best candidate?
Is there a handheld out there that uses AA batts?

yor pal al..........................................

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:55:03 -0700
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Hi all;
can some good soul send me a good int. string for
Megahertz XJ2144
for use with HP200LX and GP ?

thanks
-pavel
svitek@caltech.edu

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:11:54 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Maybe you, or some others, can set my concern to rest quickly,
but offhand it seems to me like the whole `power' issue is
pretty tightly linked to the _very_ low power requirements of
the 80186 chip in the 200.

If this is true then `moving an inch' from the 80186 `moves you
a mile' (up) in power consumption and something (big) has to give.

If this is true, then there (unfortunately) _isn't_ much anyone
can do about it, other than design an incredibly low power
Pentium (hear the oxymoron ringing in your ears yet?).

If it's not true, I'd sure be happy to hear it from someone who knows...

Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> OK dreamers:  Tell me about it ( a better daster color
> machine) with a minimum of fuss and $$$.   Not worring
> (too much) about power.  Some dude changing batts
> once a month isn't worring about patts huh?
>
> Two avenues of approach:
> Take the current machine and upgrade it with a better
> faster chip, but not too fast, then what about better video?
> This renovation seems like reinventing the wheel.
>
> A better approach is to take the best winCE clone and
> downgrade it by replacing the cpu that can do DOS,
> keeping the video.  They usually start with 64MB mem, maybe
> we can up that a wee.
> A Libretto in a smaller case. We don't even need windows.
> What are the problems?  What is the best candidate?
> Is there a handheld out there that uses AA batts?

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:30:10 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Fryday wrote:
> Sometimes, the page to download contains many images, and I just wish I could
> let WWW/LX download them and let me read what's readable (mainly, the text) and
> not show me the little "image download progress" dialog.
>
> How do we do this?

Turn off image display in the Options menu.

> realistically use the LX with a PCMCIA modem for any length of time without
> being tied to a wall?

The less power a modem uses, the longer it will last - but there is no
free lunch and no modem that does not need power.

> And also, does anyone use a portable version of an acoustic coupler? What can
> you find them and how well do they work?

Before I had a GSM phone, I used an accoustic coupler a lot. Apart from
the artistics you have to perform to hold all the separate pieces, it
works well.

Andreas

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Bob Newins wrote:
> 2 wks ago I started having problems with ATT & WWW/LX.

So have other people. Seems that AT&T is "improving" their nodes so
that only MS software can access it. I have not yet found out how
exactly the "improved the standard", so I could not react yet. I wonder
if any of the other products (DOSPPPD or so) still work with AT&T.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:35:30 -0700
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              TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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From:         TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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How about a way to list the most recently added icons, for those of us who
have visited the site a few times already?

-- Terry

On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Alan Krempler wrote:

> the icon server is a great idea!
>
> what about providing the zipped icons on the super site for download "all at
> once"?
>
> alan
>
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi everybody,

I am using VDE as my main editor on the HPLX. Sometimes when
editing there is an inverted exclamation mark appearing in the
text. Does anyone of the other VDE-users know what it means?


TIA
Reinhard


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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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>Normally we would all sit down together, have a beer or two and
>sing some songs from the old days. Does not work here,
>unfortunately. Maybe there will be a HPLX-L-World-Summit one
>day?


HPLX-L-World Summit and a few Beers?  How could it get any better than
this!!!

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I can't remember how to reset the 200lx. I know it's a key combination like
CTRL-SHIFT-ENTER but I'm not sure what.

Anybody know that off the top of their head? My brother has an HP and says when
he turns it on the screen turns on, beeps at him, and then shuts down. I seem to
recall this happened to me once and the reset command fixed it.

Thanks,
Tom

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:28:24 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> Would anybody know how to invoke the Menu Line in PalEdit from a
> Desktop Keyboard

There are several different keys (or combinations), depending on te
type of keyboard. It seems that ALT-M works for most keyboards.

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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> So have other people. Seems that AT&T is "improving" their nodes so
> that only MS software can access it. I have not yet found out how
> exactly the "improved the standard", so I could not react yet. I wonder
> if any of the other products (DOSPPPD or so) still work with AT&T.

I dumped my AT&T connection along time ago.  They go overboard with their
security to the point it becomes unusable.  It always annoyed me that they
firewall their POP server (couldn't read my mail from my lan).  You
could never hope to login without storing your password (it was a
really long cryptic string).  The last straw was when I went to ftp my
first GP webpage to my account and the server wanted my *third* password
which I'd forgotten a long time ago (there was a login password, a pop
password, and a third "only used to ask support for your other
passwords").

I am curious if anyone is having trouble with GP on AT&T yet, so far
nobody has said they were.  It's sad to see another big ISP forcing it's
customers off of anything but Microsofts latest creation.  I wonder if
AT&T has gone to an MSCHAP-only login?  One idea, is WWW/LX trying to ask
for an mru under 1500?  I've seen the case with EPPPD where the command
line was set for an mru of 576 and the two sides just banter back and
forth "gimme 576, no-1500, gimme-576, no-1500, ..."

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:34:24 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Svitek, Pavel wrote:

> can some good soul send me a good int. string for
> Megahertz XJ2144
> for use with HP200LX and GP ?


I use my XJ2144 with an initialization string of AT&F
for LXTCP and QFax.  I use no init string whatsoever
for DataComm.  At one point I used GP, I think without
any intitialization, but I can't remember for certain.
Cc:Mail uses an oddball init string which I posted to
the list a couple of days ago.

AT&F just restores the factory default configutation.

Ted

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I've ferreted out what I think is a must-have for Transfile users. Check this
page for info on the Aegis IR-HP5:

http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html
--
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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:52:01 +0200
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This is one of my items in the TO-DO list. As soon as I have some more
spare time...


TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN wrote:
>
> How about a way to list the most recently added icons, for those of us who
> have visited the site a few times already?

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:48:19 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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              1999 at 09:35:30AM -0700
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Those are both good ideas and I'll bet Paulo sees them and gives them
consideration. Maybe we can add those features given a bit of time.
--
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Folks,

I have been out of town for 3 of the last 3 weeks so updates have been
difficult. I will try and grab time this weekend to catch up. Thanks to
everyone who has submitted stuff to be posted.
--
Mitch
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>> A better approach is to take the best winCE clone and
>> downgrade it by replacing the cpu that can do DOS,
>> keeping the video.  They usually start with 64MB mem, maybe
>> we can up that a wee.

> Maybe you, or some others, can set my concern to rest quickly,
> but offhand it seems to me like the whole `power' issue is
> pretty tightly linked to the _very_ low power requirements of
> the 80186 chip in the 200.

Very interesting notion, Al. The problem is, along with the low power
consumption, I also want size and weight similar to the 200LX. For me, the
closest candidate for a "downgrade" is a Psion Series 5.

As for power consumption, surely there is an 80C386 or -486 out there that is
designed for low power! Even a lowly 386 would give us Win 3.1, Linux and a
whole host of neat new stuff to play with.

If a low-power 386 isn't available, how about a small-size 386 which gives us
extra room in the case to stuff in another battery or two?

It's nice to dream on a warm Friday afternoon...

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:15:00 -0700
Reply-To:     "patrickwest@uswest.net" <patrickwest@uswest.net>
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Parallel Port thru COMM . . .
Comments: To: "doppelbike@EMAIL.COM" <doppelbike@EMAIL.COM>
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Dennis Bell wrote:

> Is anyone using the comm port as a parallel
> port to connect to printers/etc?  I


I obtained a QVS Bidirectional Converter (serial/parallel,
parallel/serial) via an e-bay aution recently.

With a null modem adapter and the HP serial transfer cable it works
fine in both Sysmanager and DOS.

I got my from the Folks at Bridge City Systems 503-240-8203
 ,donn@bridgecitysysrtems.com

IIRC he had another one for sale.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:58:43 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: rebooting the 200lx

Try ctrl L-sft and ON.

yor pal al........................
>
>I can't remember how to reset the 200lx. I know it's a key combination
>like
>CTRL-SHIFT-ENTER but I'm not sure what.
>
>Anybody know that off the top of their head? My brother has an HP and
>says when
>he turns it on the screen turns on, beeps at him, and then shuts down.
>I seem to
>recall this happened to me once and the reset command fixed it.
>
>Thanks,
>Tom
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Folks,
the people at "experience In Software, Inc"
have dropped the prices on their HPLX software. See

http://www.experienceware.com/html/palmtop.htm

For price info:
 Project KickStart (project lanning)
 Art of Negotiating (be a negotiating wiz)
 Idea Generator     (brainstorming,problem-solving free demo)

There is also a "FREE Trial Version of Project KickStart" at
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>
>Very interesting notion, Al. The problem is, along with the low power
>consumption, I also want size and weight similar to the 200LX. For me,
>the closest candidate for a "downgrade" is a Psion Series 5.
>
Wouldn't you go for a Labretto in a LX case, as is?
Wouldn't you go for a Psion in a LX case that does DOS?

yor pal al............................

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Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:09:28 -0400 (EDT)

50m27s ago ...
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Tom Lange wrote:

> I can't remember how to reset the 200lx. I know it's a key combination =
like
> CTRL-SHIFT-ENTER but I'm not sure what.

ÝCTRL¨-ÝLeft SHIFT¨-ÝON¨

> Anybody know that off the top of their head? My brother has an HP and
> says when  he turns it on the screen turns on, beeps at him, and then
> shuts down. I seem to  recall this happened to me once and the reset
> command fixed it.

Could be dead main batteries.

HTH

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Does any one have any macros or other software that makes
SECDEV easier to use with the built in apps?  I'd like to
store my phone book, etc., on a SECDEV device.

Thanks,
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> > How do we do this?
>
> Turn off image display in the Options menu.

Hmm, but what if I want images but not the image download dialog? Why is there a
dialog anyway? Why not just download everything -- letting the user read the
text -- and then display the images once they are all/partially downloaded?

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Fryday wrote:

> Hmm, but what if I want images but not the image download dialog? Why
> is there a dialog anyway?

I am not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean the window that
tells you how much of the image is already downloaded? The alternative
would be to just hang around - looking as if the palmtop would have
frozen - and not letting the user know what's going on. I don't see the
real advantage of this, do you?

> Why not just download everything -- letting
> the user read the text -- and then display the images once they are
> all/partially downloaded?

If you mean that the images should be displayed while they are
downloaded: no problem, just add a few megs of memory to your machine
(memory, not storage, that is!) and install a multi-tasking OS. Good
luck!

If you mean: download all text and all images and then show it: this is
exactly what it does. If the progress messages disturb you, don't look
on the screen until everything is downloaded.

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Steven Lawson wrote:
> customers off of anything but Microsofts latest creation.  I wonder if
> AT&T has gone to an MSCHAP-only login?

It "suggests" CHAP. Do you think it might suggest CHAP and means
MSCHAP?

>  One idea, is WWW/LX trying to ask
> for an mru under 1500?

It does not ask for that.

What happens: It asks for CHAP and WWW/LX sends the CHAP answer. Then
AT&T rejects that packet (protocol rejected) and terminates the LCP
connnection. Looks like your MSCHAP hypothesis might be it :-(

> forth "gimme 576, no-1500, gimme-576, no-1500, ..."

That's not the problem - If it were, there would at least be a way to
fix it...

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> It "suggests" CHAP. Do you think it might suggest CHAP and means
> MSCHAP?

Shouldn't, MSCHAP has a different number assigned to it (80 I think)

> What happens: It asks for CHAP and WWW/LX sends the CHAP answer. Then
> AT&T rejects that packet (protocol rejected) and terminates the LCP
> connnection. Looks like your MSCHAP hypothesis might be it :-(

That's odd..  If you have a trace I'd like to check it against my PPP
book (though you're probably more familiar than I am with that layer).

It doesn't sound right that Worldnet should request CHAP (not MSCHAP) and
then reject it.  It does, however, fit Worldnets tendency to go overboard
on security so I wouldn't be surprised if they have or will adopt MSCHAP
and disallow PAP/CHAP. :-(  Heck, maybe they've realized that allowing
people dial into their network was a security risk and this is their
answer! :-)

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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

> OK dreamers:  Tell me about it ( a better daster color
> machine) with a minimum of fuss and $$$.   Not worring
> (too much) about power.  Some dude changing batts
> once a month isn't worring about patts huh?
>
> Two avenues of approach:
> Take the current machine and upgrade it with a better
> faster chip, but not too fast, then what about better video?
> This renovation seems like reinventing the wheel.
>
> A better approach is to take the best winCE clone and
> downgrade it by replacing the cpu that can do DOS,
> keeping the video.  They usually start with 64MB mem, maybe
> we can up that a wee.
> A Libretto in a smaller case. We don't even need windows.
> What are the problems?  What is the best candidate?
> Is there a handheld out there that uses AA batts?
>
> yor pal al..........................................
>

You missed on a few points regarding the CE machines. First off you
would have to replace alot more than just the processor to end up
with something that looks like a dos machine. They don't really do
anything like a dos machine does, ports are all in the wrong places,
video subsystem is totally different ...

Second, the latest version of CE has a 16M (or 32M I am not sure)
memory limit, half of which is dedicated to storage so you don't get
64M.

Basically if you want color and faster you loose on battery life.
Ever color machine I have seen uses LiIon batteries and still only
gets several hours of life, mainly because of the color screen. Of
course the faster processor and related components don't help battery
life either.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

> Maybe you, or some others, can set my concern to rest quickly,
> but offhand it seems to me like the whole `power' issue is
> pretty tightly linked to the _very_ low power requirements of
> the 80186 chip in the 200.
>
> If this is true then `moving an inch' from the 80186 `moves you
> a mile' (up) in power consumption and something (big) has to give.
>
> If this is true, then there (unfortunately) _isn't_ much anyone
> can do about it, other than design an incredibly low power
> Pentium (hear the oxymoron ringing in your ears yet?).
>
> If it's not true, I'd sure be happy to hear it from someone who knows...
>

That is not really the case. The HP omnibook line, the early models
from 300-530, could run off of AA batteries if you were using a flash
card instead of a HD. From what I understand they actually got
pretty good battery life as well, not as good as the 200lx but
quite good by todays notebook standards. These where various low power
386 and 486 processors. The best of the lot was probably the
original 300 which was also the smallest. It had all of win31 in
ROM, including apps and they were exicute in place which meant
they didn't need much RAM to run. An 8M 300 is a pretty good
win31 machine, the only real problem was its lack of enhanced
mode support in win31. If you just want a DOS machine then the
later models are better since the 300 had rather limited low
memory available even when not in win31. These machines are a
far cry from handheld though. Intel does (did?) make low power
versions of the 386 and 486, the did use more power than the chip
used in the 200lx but they were still managable. The real power hog
in todays designs is the color screen.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

> Wouldn't you go for a Labretto in a LX case, as is?
> Wouldn't you go for a Psion in a LX case that does DOS?
>
> yor pal al............................
>

I would love to see something like a libretto 50ct (75mhz pentium,
32m ram, hd, tft color) in a case maybe a little bigger than the
200lx. The problem would be where to put the battery. Currently the
battery is about 20% of the case volume, I don't think the volume of
the current battery would fit inside an lx case, let alone any other
parts with it. :-(

I would have liked to see ibm and ricoh continue development of the
pc110 (486sx33, 20m, 2 pcmcia slots (or 1 type III), 1 CF slot, dual
scan color, about 1/2 the size of a libretto 50ct) I really like my
pc110 and since it uses readily available sony camcorder batteries
the battery life is not as big an issue.

Pete

PS. anyone interested in buying a pc110, www.exec-decisions.com has 9
with 8m for sale at $325 each. no affiliation, just purchased from
them before and been satisfied.

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> David Ness

> Maybe you, or some others, can set my concern to rest quickly,
> but offhand it seems to me like the whole `power' issue is
> pretty tightly linked to the _very_ low power requirements of
> the 80186 chip in the 200.

> If this is true then `moving an inch' from the 80186 `moves you
> a mile' (up) in power consumption and something (big) has to give.

> If this is true, then there (unfortunately) _isn't_ much anyone
> can do about it, other than design an incredibly low power
> Pentium (hear the oxymoron ringing in your ears yet?).

> If it's not true, I'd sure be happy to hear it from someone who knows...

David,

     It is "sort of" true.  It is the number of transistors
times the clock frequency that determines power consumption.
However the operating system (OS) enters the equation as well.
If the OS is like DOS or Windows 95, the CPU is fully active
all the time.  If it is like OS/2 or NT, the CPU is idled
when inactive and can save power and reduce heat.  Also the
design of a fully static CPU (not needing dynamic refresh)
can reduce power in a sleep or suspend mode.

     The number of transistors in a 386 CPU is much larger
than in a 186.

Yor Pal Al wrote:
> What are the problems?  What is the best candidate?
> Is there a handheld out there that uses AA batts?

Al,

     Have you looked at the IBM PC-110?

     For my two cents, something like the PC-100 with
the HP 200LX ROM applications running OS/2 would be a
nicer toy.  OS/2 is the ultimate DOS switcher.

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Thanks. I found your response very informative.

Steve Novosad wrote:
>
>      It is "sort of" true.  It is the number of transistors
> times the clock frequency that determines power consumption.
> However the operating system (OS) enters the equation as well.
> If the OS is like DOS or Windows 95, the CPU is fully active
> all the time.  If it is like OS/2 or NT, the CPU is idled
> when inactive and can save power and reduce heat.  Also the
> design of a fully static CPU (not needing dynamic refresh)
> can reduce power in a sleep or suspend mode.
>
>      The number of transistors in a 386 CPU is much larger
> than in a 186.
>

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Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> > Of course, charging must be disabled
> > in order to turn the palmtop off while on the AC adapter.
>
> Not if you use Mack's bios message killer.  I can now turn my palmtop
> off and on even when plugged in

True.  I use that utility.  I was speaking to the general
case, though.


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Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone have a problem accessing MEMO
> and/or the APPT book in the conectivity pack on
> the desktop?   Trying to access it, it dspys msg:
> NOT ENOUGH MEMORY TO OPEN APP

The CPACK applications have one important handicap that the
apps in the palmtop don't have.  The palmtop apps actually
have more RAM to work with because the progrmas are in ROM so
RAM is only used for working storage.  With the CPACK, the RAM
has to be used to load the SysMgr-like shell, and the app and
the data from the file.

How much RAM is available to the DOS box you are using to run
the CPACK application?  Use the  MEM  command to see this.  I
seem to remember that you need well over 550K in order for the
CPACK to work.

And the amount of RAM that an application like the Appt book
needs is not so dependant on the size of the data file.  The
whole data file is not loaded into RAM, just the indexes and
the record currently being worked on.


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Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> wrote:

> Anyone find a source of Li-ion AA batteries
> yet?  (not the Energizer throw-away kind, the rechargable kind)

I am not aware of any AA-sized rechargeable Lithium-Ion
batteries.  Do you know if they actually exist?


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"Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM> wrote:

> Stanley, what you described was correct.
> Your answer, however, was not correct.
>  Al was asking about two sets of different *categories* (as in "1;3;5" and
> "2;4" in two databases with a common-name category field).  Not two sets of
> fields

Yes, you are right.  I misunderstood Al's question.  Thanks.


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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> Certainly there are dangers to simply removing the main
> batteries to discharge  them. I did that for a while. I have
> had my LX lockup so badly doing this  I had to do hard resets
> and one  time it did trash my C: drive. So my way, I have had
> no trashed C: drive. Your  way I have trashed the C: drive.
> Which way seems safer?

You misunderstand one of my positions.  I do not advocate
removing the batteries to discharge them.  I don't think it is
even necessary to discharge the batteries at all!  In the 41
months I have been using my NiMH batteries, I have never
removed them from the palmtop to discharge them and I have
never run then even low enough to give a low battery warning.
And they are still giving me the same run time as they did
from the beginning.

I believe you that you have never had a problem running your
batteries flat in the palmtop.  I also believe you that you
had great troubles when you pulled your batteries from your
palmtop to discharge them externally.  But for every story I
hear like yours, I can tell you about many more stories I have
heard to the contrary.

Neither one of us will ever be able to convince the other to
switch sides.  I was just trying to offer a counter opinion to
yours for balance.  We will let the readers decide which
method they would like to use.


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All right, we're pretty close to what I'm looking for:

Here's the problem: when the images are turned on, I can't do anything else than
look at the little dialogs telling me that this or that image is being
downloaded -- and try to read around the dialog.

The fact is, I don't really care how much of each image has been downloaded: I
just want to read what I have at this point with no images.

If the dialog didn't appear (but the image is still being downloaded to my
machine), I could at least read what's on the screen just because it's there.
Perhaps a little progress bar at the bottom of the screen could tell me how far
the current image has been downloaded. And perhaps between HTTP calls for the
images, the program could check the buffer to see if I pressed PAGE-DOWN or
DOWN-ARROW to more the the next screen of text.

> If you mean that the images should be displayed while they are
> downloaded: no problem, just add a few megs of memory to your machine
> (memory, not storage, that is!) and install a multi-tasking OS. Good
> luck!

No need to show them *as* they are downloaded, just at the very end. But between
downloads check the keyboard buffer to see if the user's been trying to read the
next screen.

> If you mean: download all text and all images and then show it: this is
> exactly what it does. If the progress messages disturb you, don't look
> on the screen until everything is downloaded.

Yep, that's exactly what I mean, but I just wish the progress dialog wasn't
there. As things are right now, I spend half of my time downloading images
(waiting all this time and draining my batteries) to then realize that I didn't
necessarily need all these images once I read a bit of the text.

So perhaps a few additions could be useful:

- allow the user to stop all image downloads at any time for the current page
- allow the user to download specific images
- allow the user to download all images for the current page
- allow the user to turn off image download dialog
- allow the user to PAGE-UP/PAGE-DOWN while downloading images.

Otherwise, Andreas, you people have written a fantastic piece of software!

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:50:03 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Connectivity pack

Stan
very good point.
I think I had it going a while back but since I never use
appt bk, it never bothered me.  MEMO would be useful.
Must be my TSRs.  Then again I shouldn't have them
with W95 (optimize) huh?
Can I get it into my 64MB of extened RAM outside of the 640?

yor pal al.............................

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Subject:      Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...

> I don't think it is even necessary to discharge the
> batteries at all!   In the 41months I have been using
> my NiMH batteries, I have never removed them from
>the palmtop to discharge them.

Although I haven't had mine for 41 mths, I have had them
a few and I too don't take them out, I just trickle them
every night and I can use them through the next day.

I never even needed my PYA spares that I've carried along
so long that I wonder if its shelf life is still any good to be useful.

In any case it seems these NiMh are like fish tanks, NEVER
change the water (for those of you that aren't aware).  It
screws up the ph and is a waste of time and effort.  I've seen
a fish tank that haven't had its water changed in 30 years.
  BELIEVE IT OR NOT?

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Subject:      worm explorer.zip

Friday 6/11 TGIF.

Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/

yor pal al................................

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--=====================_35712893==_.ALT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>EMERGENCY WORM REPELLENT
>The most dangerous email virus to hit the Internet so far is infecting home
>computers and corporate networks across the globe. Unlike Melissa, which
>was benign by comparison, the "ExploreZip worm" can erase files from your
>hard drive. Email Guide Heinz Tschabitscher tells you how to identify and
>eradicate the virus.
>http://email.about.com/library/nus/blwexplorezip.htm

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2271326,00.html



>
>
At 03:46 PM 6/11/99 , you wrote:
>Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
>Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
>Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
>Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/
>
>yor pal al.......


--=====================_35712893==_.ALT
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

<html>
&gt;EMERGENCY WORM REPELLENT <br>
&gt;The most dangerous email virus to hit the Internet so far is
infecting home <br>
&gt;computers and corporate networks across the globe. Unlike Melissa,
which <br>
&gt;was benign by comparison, the &quot;ExploreZip worm&quot; can erase
files from your <br>
&gt;hard drive. Email Guide Heinz Tschabitscher tells you how to identify
and <br>
&gt;eradicate the virus. <br>
&gt;<a href="http://email.about.com/library/nus/blwexplorezip.htm" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://email.about.com/library/nus/blwexplorezip.htm</a></font></u><font color="#000000">
<br>
<br>
</font><font color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2271326,00.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2271326,00.html<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</a></font></u><font color="#000000">&gt; <br>
&gt;<br>
At 03:46 PM 6/11/99 , you wrote:<br>
&gt;Friday 6/11 TGIF.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?<br>
&gt;Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.<br>
&gt;Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;yor pal al.......</font><br>

<div align="center">
<br>
</html>

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:53:23 -0500
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Subject:      Scanning params

Say anyone have optimal parameters and suggestions
for scanning top cards and maps into the LX?

Is one of  those hand helds good enough?
If scanning a streetmap, can you read the street names?

TGIF, 5 o'clock and it's raining cats and doggies here in
CHI with lot of noise in case anyone is coming here.
Be in DTT and NYC later.

yor pal al...........................................

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Made ABC News last night, so it probably isn't a hoax.

Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
> Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
> Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
> Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/
>
> yor pal al................................

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Ok, I _have_ to ask what's `DTT'

Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> Be in DTT and NYC later.
>
> yor pal al...........................................
>

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Oh no, it's very true! My company got screwed twice yesterday because of it:
first, because the virus started setting filesize to 0kb and replicating , and
second because the head of IT told everyone to run an outdated Norton AntiVirus
batch file which screwed the registry and caused the blue screen of dead,
forcing a re-image of everyone who ran it.

Nasty!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 2:46 PM
Subject: worm explorer.zip


> Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
> Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
> Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
> Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/
>
> yor pal al................................
>
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: worm explorer.zip

> Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
> Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
> Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
> Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/
>
> yor pal al................................
>

Its not a hoax but it is probably not the end of the world as we know
it either, of course the media would have you think otherwise. Why is
it that they always quote someone "from a major organization that
shall remain nameless" as having had all these problems. Is this like
the urban legends that always happened to a friend of your cousins
friend?  :-)

Pete





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Subject:      Re: ÝCommercial¨ New Palmtop Goody
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hey, isn't that a simple serial connector with an infrared LED in it?

How difficult would it be to build one like this?

Daniel, any interest in figuring this one out as well?

Philippe

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From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 10:31 AM
Subject: ÝCommercial¨ New Palmtop Goody


> I've ferreted out what I think is a must-have for Transfile users. Check this
> page for info on the Aegis IR-HP5:
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
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Ah. Well the when I was in Detroit last week, I was at the regular
Detroit Airport. It's known as DTW so I just wondered. Where is
your airport?

hobchi@juno.com wrote:
>
> Three letter IATA code for Detroit the Motor City.
> (Pls don't ask what IATA is :).
>
> >Yor Pal Al....................................

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> Philippe
>
> >You see, I'm trying to find a simple "wireless" setup, but so far, nothing
> seems
> >to be working quite well... Can't wait until Sprint PCS comes up with a way
> to
> >connect through their cellphones!
>
> I can't wait for this either!  I'll let you know if I find anything out.  I
> have a Motorola Phone with a wireless interface, but it sure would be nice
> just to connect directly to my Sprint phone...
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>

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I just looked at my Street Atlas6.0 and I see `Detroit City' up
near Grosse Pointe, is that your DTT? If so, who flies there, it
might be a `better way' for me to get to a couple of places...

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David,

I think the problem was that I went back and did some editing.  Not sure. =
 I am using PE on the Palmtop.

I have seen messages like that using Netscape on the OB800 and they are =
hard to read.  Maybe I don't have something setup right.   =3DBob=3D

> Bob,
>
> FYI your messages arrive `quoted printable' on nicely wrapped lines
> which (apparently because the MIME type is `quoted printable')
> Netscape then displays as incredibly long single lines.
>
> This makes them hard to read, as Netscape---apparently---can't wrap
> them.
>
> I don't know what causes this, but thought that you might want to
> know that it ends up making it hard to read your messages (at least
> for me).
>
> Bob Newins wrote:
> >
> > Andreas,
> >
> > 2 wks ago I started having problems with ATT & WWW/LX.  But only my =
local #'s (33.6 and 56K).  I can dial the ATT 800# or say Hawaii and get =
on with no problems.  Fred K. just started having problems in Seatle a =
couple days ago.  Avi suggested adding
>  IPCPcomp=3D1, or =3D0.  I did connect once or twice locally with that =
addition, but it fail almost all other tries (20 or 25 tries.  I gave up =
for now and use the 800# at 10 cents/minute.  What does the =3D1 and =3D0 =
do?
> >
> > Is there a newer WWW/LX that I might try for this particular problem. =
 Of course the winhose stuff works OK from the laptop. |-(  Damn Cisco =
router software. ;-(     =3DBob=3D
> >
> > > For some reason, the other side does not want to establish the
> > > connection. Could it be you use AT&t as your ISP? They seem to have
> > > some problems recently.
> >
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Hablas Espa=F1ol??

Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustar=EDa tener alg=FAn
interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas f=E1cil comunicar ciertas cosas.
Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU

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Andreas,

Yes.  When I called to complain they mentioned that they were "upgrading =
the Network".  Customer service couldn't tell me more, said that network =
guys should know, but didn't have a way to contact them.

Just changed ISP's a couple months ago (A pain) from GTE.  Might have to =
change again. |-(  In the mean time will have to setup the CSI option.  =
=3DBob=3D

> So have other people. Seems that AT&T is "improving" their nodes so
> that only MS software can access it. I have not yet found out how
> exactly the "improved the standard", so I could not react yet.

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Andreas,

Yep, that is exactly what happens.    =3DBob=3D

> What happens: It asks for CHAP and WWW/LX sends the CHAP answer. Then
> AT&T rejects that packet (protocol rejected) and terminates the LCP
> connnection.

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Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:09:44 -0400 (EDT)

07h27m37s ago ...
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> I am using VDE as my main editor on the HPLX. Sometimes when
> editing there is an inverted exclamation mark appearing in the
> text. Does anyone of the other VDE-users know what it means?

Hi, Reinhard-

I also use VDE as the main editor, both for writing docs, and as the XF
editor.  Is this inverted as in upside down or inverted as in inverse
video?  Either way I haven't seen this in VDE, and I've been using it
for about 4 years or more...

When does this character show up in VDE?  Maybe I can duplicate what
happens and, with a little luck, figure out where it comes from.

What version of VDE are you using?  Oh yeah - one more question - are
you using F-key macros?

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Oooookay, now that I have a better idea of what's going on with HV, I can start
asking more intelligent questions :-)

> But you ignore this: The program has not finished downloading the DOCUMENT
> until ALL OF IT and ITS parts are downloaded. So when you d/l text AND images,
> the page will be deemed downloaded WHEN ALL PARTS are downloaded. If you do
> not download images then only the text will be downloaded and the document
> will be deemed "downloaded" when the text is in the palmtop.
>
> Then, and ONLY THEN, can HV index the entire shabang, to figure out what is
> where, log the internal links, etc. Until the page is not fully downloaded,
> this cannot begin to happen. Your suggestion is good, but it also means that
> HV will be rewritten as a multi-tasking program. This ain't gonna happen on
> the palmtop - see suggested platform above :-) ...

Aaaah! Got it! So if I understand correctly, then if "Menu Options, Gif Display"
is turned off, then the calculations done by HV become really simple and fast:
the document is downloaded but not the graphics, then the calculations (fonts,
etc...) is done and the page is displayed.

So here's where I would see the improvement, as a two step process:

1. Show the text while the graphics are downloaded:

Have an option like "Download text first" to have HV download the HTML document
(but just the text), then do the calculation (just as if Gif Display is turned
off) and display the document with little squares instead of graphics and fonts
and all. Then start the download of graphics, simply storing them on the LX, all
the while doing two things: 1) Show a progress percentage in the upper right
corner of the screen (similar to the dialog, but less intrusive), perhaps
flashing to draw attention that the machine is not frozen. 2) Between image
downloads, check the keyboard buffer (I assume this is possible) to see if
there's PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN and if so move the viewed area of the HTML document
up or down. So there's no multi-tasking here, just your good 'ol buffer check in
between the downloads.

2. Show the text and the graphics:

Then, once all the images have been downloaded, do a complete recalculation of
the document with HTML and Graphics, and then redisplay, and voila!

> > - allow the user to download all images for the current page
>
> What is a "current page"? If you mean screenful then that concept does not
> exist. All you need to do is change fonts and your "page" description is out
> the window.

What I meant was:

If the user has Gif Display turned off, then no images show up in HV. But after
reading all the text, if the user know wants to see all the graphics in that
document, there's no way to tell WWW/LX to download them -- for that document
only. The only way is to click on all images one by one to download them.

So basically, we're looking at a manual version of the process outlined above.

> > - allow the user to PAGE-UP/PAGE-DOWN while downloading images.
>
> Cannot do this because you do not have the entire entity (i.e. the document)
> downloaded yet, and you do not have information about its dimensions, its
> links, etc etc. That process happens AFTER all the data is downloaded.

Well, if it is possible to have HV display the HTML page without graphics, and
also display it with graphics, and consider both an *entire* entity, then the
two-step process should work.

> > Otherwise, Andreas, you people have written a fantastic piece of software!
>
> Thank you very much. It is not "you people" in plural, just "You person,
> Andreas". He wrote this program waaaaay back, well before we started doing
> anything with WWW/LX. Along with input from customers like you and the
> wonderful beta team we have, many improvements have been introduced to HV. The
> programming genius behind it is still the same guy, Andreas.

Well then, Andreas, great job! And Avi, same to you for supporting WWW/LX!

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:30:07 -0400
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On 6/11/99 at 8:10 AM Al Kind wrote:

ÝSNIP¨

>     I thought about getting a 2x "D" cell battery pack from
>RatShack(or similar) and setting it up in parallel with the AAs in the
>LX. Somefing gauge wire and some thin metal contacts should due the
>trick after modifying the battery compartment cover to accept the
>wire...A little VELCRO and you shouldbe able to go online for an Hour
>or more...anyone know the mAH of Alkaline D cells?

ÝSNIP¨

Here's a more-or-less top-of-the-line alkaline:

Duracell Long-Life D: 15 Ah (15,000 mAh)

Comparing that to the old "high capacity" silver-gray Radio Shack NiCad AAs
we all used to love when they first came out, we're talking 16 2/3rds times
more capacity!  (Works out to different total "on" time though, I would
imagine, due to the differing discharge slope.)

Might be worth mentioning NiCad D's as well, most of which are quite
respectable:

Eveready standard D: 1.8 Ah (1,800 mAh)
PowerSonic D, Panasonic standard D: 4.0 Ah (4,000 mAh)
Panasonic High Capacity "E" D: 4.4 Ah (4,400 mAh)
Panasonic Rapid-charge "R" D: 5.0 Ah (5,000 mAh)

Dunno if the poor LX's charger could pump power back in them or not,
though!  8¬)  And yes, that Eveready NiCad number looks way low by
comparison... but that's their bright yellow plastic NiCad line; go heft
one, it's light as a feather.  I've read (no confirmation) that their "D"
NiCad is actually just the "C" inards in a bigger case.  Give you one guess
what the Ah rating is on their "C" cell.  ;¬)

Finally, NiMH:

Generic Mouser green "recharge in a NiCad charger" D: 7.5 Ah (7,500 mAh)

Rick,
who thinks a flat box just tall enough for a whole mess of AA NiCads that
velcros UNDER the LX might be an interesting alternative approach... looks
like you could get five sets in there, so you'd have 6x normal capacity if
you wired 'em all in parallel.  Or series 'em and dump them into the power
jack, then you could just unplug the pack, rip it off the bottom, shove the
LX in your shirt pocket, and go.

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No hablo espa=F1ol, sino Babelfish (Altavista):
http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? traducido para m=ED. Esta
respuesta fue escrita en ingl=E9s y traducida la misma manera. Babelfish
incurrir=E1 en equivocaciones pero los resultados son generalmente
comprensibles.

Quiz=E1s esto ayudar=E1 para ahora?

Buena suerte,
Rick

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On 6/11/99 at 7:44 PM Federico Nachpitz wrote:

>Hablas Espa=F1ol??
>
>Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustar=EDa tener alg=FAn
>interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas f=E1cil comunicar ciertas cosas.
>Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU
>
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If the 3.6V is a problem, a Shottky diode could be used in the dummy cell to drop the
voltage slightly, not as much as a standard silicon diode.

"F. Kaufman" wrote:

> > Here is a stupid idea, but I'll throw it out and watch the flack!
> >
> > If Li-Ion cells put out 3.6V, how about one 3.6V LiIon normal direction and a
> > not dead 1.2 NiMH or NiCad in reverse direction. 3.6V - 1.2V = 2.4V or about the
> > right oprating voltage!
>
> I don't know about your "strange" (g) recharge idea, but until the
> lithium AA's from everready came out, for years there were lithium (also
> NON-rechargeable) D and C cells which have great cold weather
> performance.  They were DOUBLE voltage for single cells.  We would use
> one C or D (depending on the application) in place of two and use a
> dummy cell - just a spring or metal shunt to replace the other cell.  It
> was lighter and had the long life we expect from the Everready's.
>
> But that 3.6 voltage value could cause problems?????
>
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Bob,

Thanks for the response. Please understand I wasn't griping, but it is
a problem I've seen before, and am gradually trying to narrow in on the
cause. Your information about `editing' may be a useful insight...

Bob Newins wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I think the problem was that I went back and did some editing.  Not sure.  I am using PE on the Palmtop.
>
> I have seen messages like that using Netscape on the OB800 and they are hard to read.  Maybe I don't have something setup right.   =Bob=
>

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Ack! Thpppfft! It's Monday and I had to start it by screwing up my expanded
C: drive.

My question: How do I format an expanded/upgraded memory drive?  ÝX2, 64MB
200LX¨.

I messed up the files/file structure on the drive that becomes C:, after the
disk swap Ýremember that "nice fail-safe" where I thought I couldn't lose
data very easily?  Well, I had to work at it, but you can lose data, if you
try :-|      ¨.

LOTS of unprintable chars., junk etc. in directories, some programs ÝSSC,
etc.¨ refuse to start, corrupted stuff everywhere <sigh>.  At least I was
performing maintenance, including backing up key docs/info when it happened.
In the past, w/ "external" drives (RAM Cards, etc.), I could fix this by
formatting the drive and then copying my back-up data into the clean system.

I still have functional copies of the rdt2t.exe and rdswap.exe; so I can
boot, clear the funny line off the left-hand side Ýdouble-speed side effect¨
and swap the drives.  I started the applications and used the filer program
to get some more things off of C:  ... when I try to use the built-in
FORMAT.COM on the LX's D: drive, I get a message like "Format not Supported
on C:"

Do I have to use a special formatter? I tried not swapping the drives and
then formatting "F:" but got the same message....

TIA

--tim

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The LIST seems a little slow today...is it working OK?

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Dennis

I think I remember doing this with the mode command on desktop machines.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, I think the syntax is:

Mode LPT1:=COM1:

You also need to use a null modem connector to "un-null" the HP cable.

BTW is the hplx list down, I didn't get anything all weekend from it.



> Hey-
>
> Is anyone using the comm port as a parallel
> port to connect to printers/etc?  I have an
> application that needs a parallel connection
> but I have just a lowly 2mb memory and thus
> need to use the card slot for more disk.  Am
> I correct that one would need another null
> modem connector in addition to a serial-parallel
> plug AND some kind of a driver/TSR that
> sends parallel stuff out the serial port?  I
> am obviously talking in huge generalities here...
>
> Does anyone know the specifics on how to do this?
>
> Dennis Bell
> Seattle
>
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Fryday wrote:
>
> Hey, isn't that a simple serial connector with an infrared LED in it?
>
> How difficult would it be to build one like this?
>
> Daniel, any interest in figuring this one out as well?

I've been researching serial-to-IR interfaces for a remote control
project on my Linux box.  Typically there are also some other passive
electronics in there, but not much.  Not that it would be hard to do,
but even if you saved $10 (after all, it's only $30) would it be worth
it to risk making a mistake and not having a nice compact case for the
project?

Try:
http://www.ziplabel.com/cir/index.html
http://www.ee.washington.edu/eeca/circuits/F_ASCII_Schem_IR.html
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Not a hoax, perhaps Slobodan's revenge.  I see on a list here that Boeing, General Electric, Microsoft, Intel and AT&T (and our company) were all seriously affected by it.  It's taken all weekend to clean up.  Someone should hire the programmer that wrote it (actually someone probably does hire them, they just don't know about their hobby).

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:25:36 -0700
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Does anyone know if a program which will read a file with large text?  I
like List, but it only seems to work with an 80x25 screen.  VR is good too,
but reformats the text into a narrow column and sometimes I don't want to
turn my palmtop on its side to read a file.

Thanks!

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:44:26 GMT
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Hi friends,

> Hey, isn't that a simple serial connector with an infrared LED in it?
>
> How difficult would it be to build one like this?
>
> Daniel, any interest in figuring this one out as well?

Haven't looked at this device yet, but haven't built another one:
Have a look at
http://www.palmtop.net/more.html

There you'll find a description of _my_ infrared device. It must be
connected to a special connector on the desktop's motherboard. But
if one changed a few resistor values and maybe a little bit of the
other stuff in the device, it would probably be possible to attach it
to every RS232 serial port.
Read my comments about this point in my article!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:44:15 GMT
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Hi Domingo, hi list

I'm also using Jorgen's HPALARM clock. It's not strange to me that it
turns the volume on when making an alarm. It's an advantage!

If you turned off the volume on SysMgr and the appointment book makes
an alarm, the volume is also switched on, isn't it?

HPALARM has it's own volume setting (F2) that it's using all the time
it fires up and beeps.

The only problem _I_ have with HPALARM is that it sometimes simply
_does_no_ alarm, although I set it up to beep 7.30am. That's a little
bit strange (and dangerous, if my 'inner clock' doesn't notice that's
already time to wake up!).

Jorgen? Do you know about this problem?

GTX
daniel


> Aha! So it is not app manager.  I have used some clock programs (including
> Jorgen Walgreen's) with great delight, until I started noticing strange
> interactions with other programs.  I love Jorgen's clock program, but its
> behavior is suspicious to me.  So that's where I'd lay the blame.  Man, do I
> miss those big numbers!
>
> Domingo
>
> P.S.  One of the strange things that Jorgen's program is known for doing, is
> sound an alarm even when the volume is turned off on Sysmgr!  I would feel
> better if it wasn't for the fact that this behavior is not consistent.  It
> seems to be an aggressive program (as far as working with Sysmgr.  Like I
> said, I do love the program, but I no longer use it because of problems
> which I lay at its door . . .


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> Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
> Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
> Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
> Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/

Hi friends,

I received your email and i shall send you a reply ASAP.
Till then, take a look at the attached zipped docs.
bye.


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Hi Dennis,

> need to use the card slot for more disk.  Am
> I correct that one would need another null
> modem connector in addition to a serial-parallel
> plug AND some kind of a driver/TSR that
> sends parallel stuff out the serial port?  I

As far as I know, no driver is needed. You send the serial data out of
the serial port, and the s-p converter does the rest.

You're right in that you need a null modem adapter in addition to the
s-p converter. and perhaps you also need a gender changer.

BTW: Only printing is possible with a s-p converter (or other kinds of
output). The converter does not convert parallel to serial in the
opposite direction (at least mine does not - maybe there are converters
that work both ways...)

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

> If you want to see the computer light recently designed on this list by
> some of our more ingenious, check out the following web site:
>
> http://www.1800batteries.com/home.htm
>
> Do a search by catalog # for: 42910.
>
> I can't tell if it is an led, but it is being driven off the port
> (ps/2). I have no affiliation whatsoever.

...Bob posted this message some time ago.

Did anyone have a look at this light? I looked at the website, did the
search and found a very nice little LEd light, just of this kind I make
for our HP LX!
It is indeed a LED light with one white LED that is plugged into the
PS/2 port of any note book. It seems that it's more for enlightening the
keyboard or a paper use near the notebook than for the screen...

Maybe it was possible to remove the PS/2 plug from this light and
attach a plug for the HP LX instead. I described how to build one at

http://www.palmtop.net/more.html

I don't know _how_ bright the LED of this light is, and I don't know
it's lightening angle and current draw, so someone had to try if this
works.

The light I make has two LEDs (for better adaption of the light
dispersion to the display's size). But maybe the light from 1800
batteries has a spreading lens - who knows? ;-)

Please let me know if anyone made axperiences with this light!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:29:28 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter W. Borders <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Fluffy wish machine


>> Wouldn't you go for a Labretto in a LX case, as is?
>> Wouldn't you go for a Psion in a LX case that does DOS?
>>
>> yor pal al............................
>>
>
>I would love to see something like a libretto 50ct (75mhz pentium,
>32m ram, hd, tft color) in a case maybe a little bigger than the
>200lx. The problem would be where to put the battery. Currently the
>battery is about 20% of the case volume, I don't think the volume of
>the current battery would fit inside an lx case, let alone any other
>parts with it. :-(


The 2.5" drive would be a problem as well - both for power issues and
space constraints...

>I would have liked to see ibm and ricoh continue development of the
>pc110 (486sx33, 20m, 2 pcmcia slots (or 1 type III), 1 CF slot, dual
>scan color, about 1/2 the size of a libretto 50ct) I really like my
>pc110 and since it uses readily available sony camcorder batteries
>the battery life is not as big an issue.


The standard battery is nice, but that really is a godawfulsmall screen!
And the pointer is on the wrong side ;¬) But, it is a great basic design,
and if the screen could fill the system lid, and a better pointer designed,
then that would be a great machine!

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:08:20 -0400
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A few thoughts/reactions to your message:

WinCE can run on an x86 processor (as of WinCE 3.0 I believe),
but not neccessarily on an IBM clone x86 machine.

I have yet to log any significant time on my 100LX (hasn't arrived
yet), but I did tinker with the 1000CX I recently had, and my thoughts
on improving the design are to "evolve" the system, not a complete
redesign:

    Screen backlighting (selectable, like Palm Pilot, via ext. button)

    Support for vga display in existing size (640x480x16 grey shades)

    Processor bump to an Intel 286 or 386 (run coherent, linux, etc)

    Built-in RAM upgrade to 16 Meg, or 16Meg standard.

    Enable PCMCIA adapter to handle 2 cards (via ext adapter, slide
    an extender card in to 200LX, then have two ext. PCMCIA cards
    outside to allow CF and modem/network card or one type III card).

    A dedicated CF slot would be nice, but probably no room inside. As
    an alternative, drop PCMCIA and add 2 CF slots that can accept CF
    modems/ethernet as well as storage.

    Keyboard keys a bit bigger (overall dimensions same, just make the
    keytops bigger and closer together).

    WinCE as an OS Option (to ensure volume sales), but alternate OS
    should be possible. (i.e. standard PC architecture, if possible with
    WinCE).

    Power... This is where it all falls apart - if you could squeeze some
    LiON battery pack inside the unit and power the device for 12 -18
    hours that would be great (remember, we have no moving parts
    here...), 6-9 hours would still sell well, anything less and you are
    competing with Librettos (oh, wait, they are going to stop making
    Librettos).

    And finally, if a docking system could be built along the lines off the
    Motorola "drop-in" chargers for Police walkie-talkies that would
    allow the unit to recharge the batteries without plugging in an AC
    adapter cord tat would be great. A great improvement would be
    if the serial line could be connected as well, and the contents of
    the internal storage could be backed-up/hot synched like a Palm
    Pilot it would be a true winner.

Well, since I have evolved nearly every subsystem, I guess I'll have to
give up a bit on the size/volume of the unit - a 10 - 15% increase in size
wouldn't be terrible, if it allowed the majority of the above improvements
to be incorporated...

If I only got one thing from my list, it would be the last one - the drop-in
charger/serial connection, even i it would only back-up the internal
drives to an external PC...

Just my thoughts,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

(I guess if I had my 100LX longer I would have added an improved
lid hinge ;¬))

-----Original Message-----
From: Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 12:04 PM
Subject: Fluffy wish machine


>OK dreamers:  Tell me about it ( a better daster color
>machine) with a minimum of fuss and $$$.   Not worring
>(too much) about power.  Some dude changing batts
>once a month isn't worring about patts huh?
>
>Two avenues of approach:
>Take the current machine and upgrade it with a better
>faster chip, but not too fast, then what about better video?
>This renovation seems like reinventing the wheel.
>
>A better approach is to take the best winCE clone and
>downgrade it by replacing the cpu that can do DOS,
>keeping the video.  They usually start with 64MB mem, maybe
>we can up that a wee.
>A Libretto in a smaller case. We don't even need windows.
>What are the problems?  What is the best candidate?
>Is there a handheld out there that uses AA batts?
>
>yor pal al..........................................
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Get the Internet just the way you want it.
>Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
>Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:41:02 -0400
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The company (Intelisale) seems like a reasonable company, and
based on the number of OB800ct they have (40 listed), I suspect
these were all returned at the end of a corp. rollout... I suspect they
are fresh off of maint. contract.

The 64 Meg RAM upgrade is an aprox. $150 item by itself, and a
6.4 Gig HD is *around* $200 these days, but the RAM is getting
harder to find - I'd rather get the RAM up front, then upgrade the
HD later (if/when my needs overrun the 2 Gig included).

Note - this company sells a lot of equipment through OnSale, so
you could get a bargain if you wait for them to sell them at auction,
but the price could exceed $699... When I got my Compaq laptop
they had over 100, so the price was low...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT


>$699 is a pretty good price, especially with 80mb RAM (normal config is
16mb).
>
>Almost tempted to buy a 2nd one...too bad they didn't provide a 4gig
harddrive
>rather than the stock 2gig.  And also that the unit is reconditioned
(sounds
>like a non-HP job since the 90 day warranty is with Intellesale and not
with
>HP).

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:13:07 -0500
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This is info from the D&A web site that I am trying to follow:

>    The second batch file encodes a complete message. It is named
>    PGPENC.BAT:
>
>  @echo off
>  SET PGPPATH=3Dc:\pgp
>  c:\pgp\PGP.EXE -esa %1 -o scratch.

I have done this and have tried everything 'under the sun' to get this =
batch
file to work, but each time I run it I get an error message that complains
about not being able to open the file 'SCRATCH' :(

I am in a Software Carousel session that has a setting of 551K. I start
POST/LX by using the following line:

www.exe -d !post.exe

I am *assuming* that the complaint about not being able to open the file
scratch is because of a memory problem?!? Can anyone, using the info I =
have
supplied verify this?

>    Now we need to link all together. In PE.CFG, add the following lines
>    to the ÝFilter¨ section:
>
>  PGP &Sign =3D maxdos d:\dos\command.com /c PGPSIGN.BAT %s
>  PGP &Encode =3D maxdos d:\dos\command.com /c PGPENC.BAT %s
>
>    And in POST.CFG, you need to add to the ÝExternal¨ section:
>  PGP &Verify=3Dmaxdos d:\dos\command.com /c pgpvery.bat $f $$
>  &PGP Decode=3Dmaxdos d:\dos\command.com /c pgpdec.bat $f

Since I'm in a SC session that starts with 551K and the ony things loaded
are WWW/LX and POST/LX, do I need to call MaxDOS?

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:06:16 -0700
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Does anyone know about the "care and feeding" of the battery/charger of the OB
800CT in UK? In Switzerland? Other European countries?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:06:12 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Ok, Here is a question for the "tribal wisdom" here.

What is a good digital camera to use? I am looking for something smaller than
the Olympus "thingamajigs", and a bit more capable than the dim-witted Casion
QV10 :-)

A megapixel is ok, but not absolutely necessary. Removable media is required,
and my preference would be a regular flash card. What is also required, IMHO,
is a recording format that is "standard", say JPEG.

Now comes the hard question: 8-) -- I want to be able to stick the card into
the palmtop and look at the pictures.

Price is another consideration, of course.

So what do you all recommend? When you do, it would be great to relate your
own usage of it. Also, perhaps by way of comparing, can we stick to the
following criteria?

1. name, model, price
2. Pic format, size of pic, number of pic
3. How long to warm up, how long to register pic, how long to recharge
4. Flash? Macro? Zoom?
5. Read removable PC card on Palmtop?

Did I mention all the criteria that are pertinent? What do you think?

TIA

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:03:07 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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There was a recent thread regarding terminal emulations - VT100 IIRC. This
is what I would like to do, if someone could advise on possible problems.
I use IBM 3151 terminals for email access at work. They use RS 422 (not
current)
I would like to purchase a RS 232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use my 200
to access email. I can handle the aspects of that part of the process, but
how do I get the computers to talk the same language? I remember Procomm
having tons of terminal emulations, but I do not have that program anymore.
(Gone with the 5.25 drive... bad move in hindsight)
So my questions are this:
Is there a program that would emulate the IBM 3151 (IBMs web site was no
help)
What would I have to do to get this work?

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My palmtop is no longer functioning.  If anybody has one for sale, or
knows of a good place to get one, I need to get a new one ASAP.

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:41:31 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I too did not believe it, even the printed catalog. And someone from
Thaddeus replied to my email confirming that the adapters were only for
110V.>>

Our (my) mistake.  The catalog is wrong. The HP adapter is 110/220V.
However, Mack's one-outlet AC adapter that we sell is only 110V.

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Hello

Is there something wrong with the list? Its been two days and I haven't
gotten a message.

John

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:46:47 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<
> If one of us looks for a special program, he could so a search simply
> in the super.gdb file, send an email to the email service server and
> receive the requested software a few minutes later as email.

Believe it or not, I had this type of service set up on my server a
couple of
years ago and hardly anyone used it. An FTPMAIL server is not only a
security
risk, but it puts a big demand on an already stressed slow connection.
Finally,
most of the palmtop.net files are served from a machine hosted by
Thaddeus
Computing due to my bandwidth limitations. I only have ftp and telnet
access to
their machine and no permissions to do sysadmin work. I would be happy
to set
up a mail alias that would forward to a ftpmail daemon on their machine,
but
they would have to agree to doing such a thing.>>

I don't have any problem as long as it is not a security risk and
doesn't take much of Tom's (our webmaster's) time. I have copied Tom on
this, and he would be the one to OK it.

Hal from Thaddeus

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:38:37 -0500
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<<I just got my trial issue of Palmtop Paper, and it had a catalog from
Thaddeous (sp?) and in there they offered to load Software Carousel
on your CF card, and I think they required 5-8 Meg free (IIRC)... A 5
meg machine might be reasonable, I'd check there first (for
reference).>>

Actually, that (5 meg) space is needed for Super Software Carousel --
with 40+ pieces of freeware and shareware. As others have pointed out,
Software Carousel itself can run on either a flash card or a smaller C
drive.

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:32:43 -0700
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Phillippe,

I believe I understood what you wanted correctly all three times, but I think
you are beating a dead horse to the ground. But I'll go with you one more
time... :-)

> 3. Download one graphic image file (and store it on RAM drive).

To find out which image files to d/l, we need to process the whole file. I
can't help it, this is how the structure of the HTML files is.

> 4. Check keyboard buffer for PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN
> 5. If PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN in keyboard buffer, execute PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN in
> HV.

But that means repainting the entire file all over again. Furthermore, if
the image downloaded is part of the are being displayed, then we need to
reindex the file.

We also need a very large memory to keep the page as it was displaying, the
new page after your pageup/down, plus images. You have 640K. Let's try another
platform...

> 7. Display HTML file + graphics images in HV (same as if Gif Display is on).

That means again reindexing and reprocessing the file in ternally. Much
more time than you think.

> Since the largest amount of wasted time seems to be spent downloading
> (especially on a slow modem) graphic images, it would seem a good

Terminology check: Time you spend waiting for image download because you want
them is not a waste. If you do not want to wait for all images, tuen them off,
and click on the ones you want to see.

> enhancement ...

> while downloading graphics, a good way to put time to good use would be
> to allow the user to read the text only. If needed, simplify calculations

Seems I cannot convince you that it is bad user interface to have the machine
do something and lock you out while giving you no indication of it. I think it
is bad. It is the philosophy we put in all our programs. We think it is
successful.

> Regarding reloading a page with graphics (while Gif Display is off), I
> agree that it's doable by turning Gif Diaplay on, hitting CTRL-R to
> reload a getting a page with images. But afterward, to return to my
> original surfing config, I have to turn Gif Display off again: a three
> step process. Why not have CTRL-T (or another hotkey) to reload *with*

Please give me a break, please... I find it a bit overboard to compalin about
having to press four-five keys once or twice pwer session. Sorry.

> and go away. And that *especially* applies to power users. After working
> on UI development for 10 years, this kind of stuff -- UI optimization --
> sort of rubbed off on me...

Thanks for your expertise. We feel that we accumulated a bit of knowledge too
over time: Aside from several degrees in computing and about 100 years
experience among us all (D&A and Betas) we also have accumulated a
significant body of responses from thousands and thousands of users of HV. I
have not heard anyone suggest your GUI improvements before.

A few more comments on closing:

1. HV is at the max of code space now. We cannot add anything. What you
suggest would take a complete rewrite.

2. Our customers OVERWHELMINGLY tell us to spend resources on email
improvements and leave HV be.

3. Our customers tell us that they want to stay in touch using the palmtop,
not browse the Web. It is a rather lousy way to browse an increasingly
colorful, detailed Web.

4. I am sure you read Andreas' several posts about "no more changes to HV". I
am sure he means it. To do something reasonable means huge resources (we are
told to put them elsewhere!), it means large memory (80386 or higher chip),
and lots more speed than we have now on the palmtop.

Well, I appreciate the discussion. I think this has come to a natural end.
Thank you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:15:47 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I have a beta test ready of a DOS program to time exam invigilations.
The program will run on any DOS computer (including a HP-?00LX) and,
yes, you will have room for it: 632 bytes and, yes, you can afford it
too: it is free as usual. The snag is that you probaby will have no use
for it.

The program uses the same big friendly numbers as MCB and BIG.
The timer defaults to 2 hours but you can change it to whatever is
required. It will wake you up :) by beeping once, so you don't forget to
advice the students once every hour and when 30, 15, 5 and 1 minute
remains. You can start and stop the timer and change the remaining time
as you like. You can of course switch the beeping off.

Any interest in such a program as it is or with changes? It is probably
best to email me privately as very few people on this list have a use
for it (unless you can see other uses of such a program).

Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jun 1999 02:11:43 +0000
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      Alpha 5 Database
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Does anyone know if the Alpha 5 Database is a good database for running on
the HP200LX?

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I hit the motherlode at an auction last week and now I have too much
stuff and need to sell it!

14.4 modems, software (some still shrink-wrapped and some free - for the
price of shipping), HP Laserjet II printers, etc.  Reply off-list for a
list of products.

Anyway, I'm not planning on making much off of this, only on breaking
even, so this cannot be construed as a commercial message, besides, none
of this money  is going in to my business account.

Thanks.

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Obviously, you are implying Grandview is not Y2K compliant.  Do you know if
the problem is serious?  Can you describe the issues and workarounds?

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At 01:23 AM 6/4/99 EDT, Feinmanr@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>You could do something similar with Grandview --- up until the end of this
>year, that is.
>

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I wanted to let everyone know that our beloved hardware genius, Mack, =
showed
great courage and determination last night <g>. He and I came face to =
face
with a wild animal. I, being the trusting one, followed some quick advice
given to me by Mack and was quickly bitten by the animal. I decided that =
I
would not make a second attempt to remove this wild animal from a busy
roadway. Mack, quickly stepped up, took my baton, and after one or two =
'close
calls was able to remove this wild beast from the roadway  and saved it's
life! I want everyone to know that Mack is not only an accomplished =
palmtop
hardware guru, excellent programmer but also a very brave soul! You may =
be
wondering what type of wild animal it was that we encountered while on
patrol.... it was the biggest, meanest snapping turtle that I have ever
seen... and yes, it did bite my foot :(

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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I have the HP910 CAPSHARE and it works as advertised.  On unit display is
dim and 'appears' slightly out of focus, but when the built in magnify is
used, it's OK, not as good as a 200LX.  Price is about $650 on Pricewatch.
Comes complete.  I don't use it with a 200LX.  It generates .TIF or .PDF
files only.

Alan Kirk
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From: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 9:37 PM
Subject: Anybody have a Capshare?


>A while back there was a brief flurry of discussion about HP's
>Capshare scanner. The thread died pretty quickly, and I havent
>seen `word one' about the Capshare in comp.periphs.scanners
>or any other HP list. And I haven't seen any reviews based on
>actual use.
>
>Are they out? Did anyone here get one? Any comments about how they
>work? Anyone seen reviews anywhere?
>
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Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:47:05 -0400 (EDT)

Hi all-

Is this just a REALLY quiet day, or is the list down?

-PR
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Aca encontraste uno
Por lo que decis parece que hace tiempo andas con la 200, yo empece
hace
poco y mi mayor interes es usarla como titulador por control remoto
para mis
MD; y de paso mantener una base de datos.
Desde ya te mando un saludo
Chau
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From: Federico Nachpitz <nachpitzfede@MOVI.COM.AR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 7:44 PM
Subject: Federico de Argentina


> Hablas Espaqol??
>
> Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustarma tener algzn
> interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas facil comunicar ciertas
cosas.
> Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU
>
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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:14:44 -0400
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              Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET>
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I use VDE on the palmtop as my main wordprocessor - a great
program.  I get the inverted ! when I use a hyphenated word
not known by VDE.  Just delete it and go on.
Jim

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Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> After much thought and contemplation, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
> >I am not sure what software issues that error (MaxDOS?) but it is not
> >POST/LX for sure.
>
> I'm sure it is...it's the only other program running in there that I know
> of

Trust me, Al, Andreas would know if these was such an error
message in Post - he wrote that program.  Post is NOT the only
program running - it is MaxDOS.  MaxDOS uses a swap file to
swap all of SysMgr out of RAM to make room to load Post.  For
some reason, MaxDOS cannot do the swap and is giving that
error you see.


Stan

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"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
wrote:

> I use Post/LX a lot and have found some success w/ a
> combination of deleting some email, deleting some files on the disk AND
> defragmenting.  Don't know how post/lx works in the "re-indexing" phase, but
> it seems to have a need to borrow a decent sized piece of contiguous, free
> space on the disk to do it

Tim, Post does not need contigous disk space to work - it does
not care about fragmentation at all.

There are two different operations that you might be
confusing.  The Re-index operation just reads through the
message file and re-calculates the two indexes that Post uses
on each file.  This process does not really need much (if any)
temporary disk space.

The Pack operation is where deleted messages are physically
removed from the file to make the file smaller.  Packing a
file does require a fair amount of free disk space.  The pack
process works by copying all of the non-deleted messages from
the old files to the new files.  So, the amount of free space
needed could be just a little bit less than the size of the
files being packed.  Or course, the more deleted messages
there are in the message files, the smaller the resulting
packed files will be and therefore the smaller amount of free
space needed.  In any case, fragmentation does not matter to
Post.

Indexing is fully automatic and is required to be put to date
at all times.  You can force a re-index of any file at any time
with Ctrl-R.

Packing can be automatic or manual as determined by a setting
in your POST.CFG file.

ÝSYSTEM¨
ManualPack=1

sets packing to manual and Post will only do it when you press
a Ctrl-P at the main screen.  This will save time when doing
simple message deletes, but your files will not shrink until
you pack them.  The manual packing operation happens to all of
the messages files at once and cannot be done for just one
file at a time.


Stan

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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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Comments: To: Federico Nachpitz <nachpitzfede@MOVI.COM.AR>
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On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 07:44:01PM -0300, Federico Nachpitz wrote:
> Hablas Espaqol??
>
> Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustarma tener algzn
> interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas facil comunicar ciertas cosas.
> Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU
>
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hace mucho tiempo que no escribo en espanol, pero si puedo ayudar
tirame un mesage. :¨

--francois

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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:38:02 -0400
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I tracked down the link (I think) and it appears to refer to a show
that was run on 12/1/98 (Episode 1638). Of course, I may have screwed
up `getting there'. Or I may misunderstand what the web site is trying
to tell me. If, however, the only reference is to  six month old news,
it won't contain anything useful to me.

Sometimes PBS stations replay `ancient segments' as though they were
`today's news'. Do you think that the show you saw was new?

Having watched the late lamented Wally Cox answer questions on Hollywood
Squares for months or years after his passing, I no longer trust the
`age' of most of what I see on TV unless the camera generated date/time
signals actually appear on the frame. It _does_ seem to me (here's a
chance to grind an axe) that TV broadcasters should be required to tell
us (at least roughly) when what we are seeing was shot, if it purports
to be `news' in any way...

Kat Deutscher wrote:
>
> Earlier this week Computer Chronicals (local PBS station).
> featured the Capshare and some PDA stuff.
>
> Follow the links to Computer Chronicals
> http://www.cmptv.com
>
> Kat
> --
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> A while back there was a brief flurry of discussion
> about HP's Capshare scanner. The thread died pretty
> quickly, and I havent seen `word one' about the
> Capshare in comp.periphs.scanners or any other HP
> list. And I haven't seen any reviews based on actual
> use.
>
> Are they out? Did anyone here get one? Any comments
> about how they work? Anyone seen reviews anywhere?

Earlier this week Computer Chronicals (local PBS station).
featured the Capshare and some PDA stuff.

Follow the links to Computer Chronicals
http://www.cmptv.com


Kat
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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:56:13 -0700
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Hmmm, seems I'm not making much headway here. Looks like we're not connecting at
the right level (which is probably my fault). Let's see if I can simplify it to
a maximum:

1. Download the HTML file.
2. Display HTML file in HV (no graphics -- same as if Gif Display is off).
3. Download one graphic image file (and store it on RAM drive).
4. Check keyboard buffer for PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN
5. If PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN in keyboard buffer, execute PAGE-UP or PAGE-DOWN in
HV.
6. If more graphic image files to be downloaded, go to (3), otherwise go to (7).
7. Display HTML file + graphics images in HV (same as if Gif Display is on).

Since the largest amount of wasted time seems to be spent downloading
(especially on a slow modem) graphic images, it would seem a good enhancement to
put that time to good use if possible. It didn't strike me that displaying the
document (with or without graphics) was the step that was taking the most
time -- but definitely correct me if I'm wrong. And while downloading graphics,
a good way to put time to good use would be to allow the user to read the text
only. If needed, simplify calculations to a maximum in step (1), don't show
fonts or positioning, take out any fancy display steps: just show the text and
allow the user to read it, all the while downloading the graphics (but *not* at
the *same* time: no multi-tasking here! just allow the user to PAGE-UP and
PAGE-DOWN through the text, checking the keyboard buffer once between
downloads...)

Regarding reloading a page with graphics (while Gif Display is off), I agree
that it's doable by turning Gif Diaplay on, hitting CTRL-R to reload a getting a
page with images. But afterward, to return to my original surfing config, I have
to turn Gif Display off again: a three step process. Why not have CTRL-T (or
another hotkey) to reload *with* with images -- or perhaps only get the ones
with hotspots (another option?), so that the user can simply surf text-based,
then everytime they find out they want the images in this page, they can hit
CTRL-T instead of the 3-step process? Okay, perhaps this can be done with a
macro... uh?

Did I miss anything? I hope I've understood the way HV works properly in order
to make a good suggestion. This is not to say that HV doesn't work well already.
The idea is that more options (even obscure ones) will satisfy a larger number
of users -- who otherwise would simply give up and go away. And that
*especially* applies to power users. After working on UI development for 10
years, this kind of stuff -- UI optimization -- sort of rubbed off on me...

Thanks,

Philippe

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Can someone tell me what the differences are between the 100/200 and
the 95lx?  My daughter has just started college and is lusting after a
palmtop.  Of course, she knows better than to look at my trusty little
100lx. <g>  But I did notice used 95's at a reasonable price so that
is what I'm thinking of getting for her.

What I'd really like to know is if the screen is full size or is it
tiny like the Omnigo - which I didn't care for.  I realize that the
memory is only 512k, but that should be enough to run a small DOS text
editor.

Thanks,

Terry Owen


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Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:

> if I can figure
> out a way to do so without paying more for shipping to Hong Kong than the
> cost of the product itself

Thomas Rundel (www.rundel-d.com) is in Germany.  Perhaps it
would cost less for him to ship to Hong Kong?

I can't believe there isn't a single place in Hong Kong to get
HP brand accessories.


Stan

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Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> So, if I had the previous two tables (one with 1, 3, and 5, the other
> with 2 and 4), if I wnated to merge them together I would want to
> define a third table with columns 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 defined, and then
> merge the first table into it (populating columns 1, 3, and 5), then
> merging the second table into that third table (populating columns
> 2 aqnd 4), right?

Sort of.  But you would end up with a number of records in the
merged file equal to the sum of the records in each of the
smaller files.  For example, File A has 100 records and File B
has 50 records.  If you merge both A and B into an empty file
C, then C will have 150 records in it.  The merge operation
will not touch any existing records in the destination file -
it just adds new records to it.

So, in your example above, there would be a bunch of records
with data in fields 1, 3 & 5 and another bunch of records with
data in fields 2 & 4, but no records with data in fields 1, 2,
3, 4 & 5.  This is because the data base does not keep any
kind of primary key field - it is not a relational data base.


Stan

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Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Must be my TSRs.  Then again I shouldn't have them
> with W95 (optimize) huh?
> Can I get it into my 64MB of extened RAM outside of the 640?

You can tune your Win95 settings for the DOS box it is opening
in order to run the CPACK.  Tell the settings that the program
needs max available RAM or enter a number like 620K.  But I
don't know what is the most amount of low DOS RAM you can
manage with Win95.

The CPACK applications use the same memory model as they do on
the palmtop, so they only know about the lower 640K of DOS RAM
and that is it.  They won't use Expanded otr Extended memory.


Stan

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Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> Thaddeus catalog, and saw a statement that all their adapters are only
> for 110V.  Strange, considering that they sell the HP adapter.  Does
> anyone know if the design of the HP 1011 adapter has changed?  They
> used to be 110/220V

Good question.  I doubt that HP has changed the configuration
of the F1011 adapter.  I suspect that Thaddeus's generalized
statement is not entirely true.  You know the old saying, "All
generalities are false." <grin>


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http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_3503.html

Yor Pal Al wrote:

> Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
> Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
> Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
> Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/
>
> yor pal al................................
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:48:59 +0100
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Dear All

Following my earlier mail on the current drawn by the HP (this was measured
at the
12V input). I have now received a Megahertz XJ2144 from www.Kento.com (at only
$12.99 plus $5 shipping to the UK, arrived in only 3 days!
Excellent service - no connection, just a happy customer).

Anyway my original measurements for a Psion Gold modem connecting at 28kb:

> DS/64 HPLX in DOS & Psion Modem (offline)     110mA
> DS/64 HPLX in DOS & Psion Modem (online)      280mA !

The new Megahertz connecting at 14kb:

DS/64 in DOS with Megahertz Modem (offline)     70mA
DS/64 in DOS with Megahertz Modem (online)      175mA

The conumdrum now is "use half the power, but connect at half the speed!!"

Regards

Dave


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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 06:38:23 -0400
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>I am using VDE as my main editor on the HPLX. Sometimes when
>editing there is an inverted exclamation mark appearing in the
>text. Does anyone of the other VDE-users know what it means?

It probably means that you have a macro that writes the ASCII 173
character (used in Spanish?).

Jorgen

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gosh, i use an 8 cell AA holder because it gives 12 volts to
a jack that fits the 200.  the AA cells are easy to find, and
if i am serious about light, high capacity i can use lithium
AAs.  especially for travel and modem work.

I once used a flat gel cell that was very very close to the
200 footprint and fit below it, but it was heavy and hard to
recharge on the road.

my 8 cell AA pack is two 4 packs, one per side of the molded
unit.  of course, i soldered the connector myself..
Now, if someone could find a FLAT 8 AA cell holder, we would
be golden....

here is another idea.....
i use the dl123 3v Li batteries in my camera.....
anyone ever try to run the 200 with one of these?
anything different about these?  the cops use these in their
surefire flashlights....so we should get them to work here.
Iknow they are expensive, but for travel to remote locals,
they are quite compact and light.

what do y'all think?

dave
>
> >     I thought about getting a 2x "D" cell battery pack from
> >RatShack(or similar) and setting it up in parallel with the AAs in the
> >LX. Somefing gauge wire and some thin metal contacts should due the
> >trick after modifying the battery compartment cover to accept the
> >wire...A little VELCRO and you shouldbe able to go online for an Hour
> >or more...anyone know the mAH of Alkaline D cells?
>

...

> who thinks a flat box just tall enough for a whole mess of AA NiCads =
that
> velcros UNDER the LX might be an interesting alternative approach... =
looks
> like you could get five sets in there, so you'd have 6x normal capacity =
if
> you wired 'em all in parallel.  Or series 'em and dump them into the =
power
> jack, then you could just unplug the pack, rip it off the bottom, shove =
the
> LX in your shirt pocket, and go.
>

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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 02:20:23 -0700
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Some good news for a change: I finally got Post/LX and WWW/LX to work the
way they're supposed to...problem apparently was not enough room on the c:
drive for the swap file.  Many thanks to all of you who were patient and
helped me along.

The other problem I have may not be resolved without changing my isp.  I'm
curious if any of the more technically savvy folks on the list have had any
luck talking with the AT&T Worldnet support people regarding the apparent
changes in their system and the problem accessing the service with the 200lx.

I tried  the 4 local Salem Oregon AT&T access numbers tonight, and none
would allow a connection; the only one that will work is 800-543-3279.  I
tried their 888 number, but it won't work.  I'm quite disappointed in this
turn of events, since I went with AT&T because they had access numbers all
over the country, and I specifically got the 200lx to use while travelling;
now I understand they may be  changing their system around so I won't be
able to use it.  If they leave the "800" number alone, I guess I'm ok while
travelling in the States, but in Canada I'll not be able to dial in, since
their 800 number doesn't work from across the border.

There probably aren't enough 200lx users that use AT&T to make any economic
difference to them, so maybe we will have to switch to different isp's?
I'm curious what others have found out about this issue, and if
complaining/discussing it with them has produced any positive response.  If
there's a specific group at AT&T that knows/cares about this problem, I'd
like to know where to call so I can deposit my $.02 worth where it will do
the most good!

TIA,

Al
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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 02:14:30 -0700
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> > But you ignore this: The program has not finished downloading the DOCUMENT
> > until ALL OF IT and ITS parts are downloaded. So when you d/l text AND images,
> > the page will be deemed downloaded WHEN ALL PARTS are downloaded. If you do
> > not download images then only the text will be downloaded and the document
> > will be deemed "downloaded" when the text is in the palmtop.
> >
> > Then, and ONLY THEN, can HV index the entire shabang, to figure out what is
> > where, log the internal links, etc. Until the page is not fully downloaded,
> > this cannot begin to happen. Your suggestion is good, but it also means that
> > HV will be rewritten as a multi-tasking program. This ain't gonna happen on
> > the palmtop - see suggested platform above :-) ...
>
> Aaaah! Got it! So if I understand correctly, then if "Menu
> Options, Gif Display" is turned off, then the calculations done

What is turned off is the display of gifs and Jpegs, therefore
it is not necessary to download them.

> by HV become really simple and fast: the document is downloaded
> but not the graphics, then the calculations (fonts, etc...) is
> done and the page is displayed.

Please let's be accurate: The images are part of the document.
However, all browsers (HV included) will let you skip
downloading the images. That leaves the text.

When a document is downloaded, ther must be an accommodation for
any lonks it has internally to itself, and to other documents
elsewhere, if images are interspersed in the text, then their
size is determined and the text is painted such that it will not
appear on top of the image, etc. If you have less entities to
deal with, all the "housekeeping" chores are simpler. And
problaby faster.

What I am NOT saying is that a 800K HTML file (e.g. The Report
to Congress by the Special counsel for example) will paint at
the same speed as the 4K index.html file in our own Webpage!
Obviously there will be a difference.

But you can try yourself to download our Index.html with and
without images. You'll see a difference, albeit small (because I
use very small and efficient images!)

> So here's where I would see the improvement, as a two step process:
>
> 1. Show the text while the graphics are downloaded:

No can do. The images are PART OF THE DOCUMENT, not a separate
item. EVERYTHING MUST BE downloaded BEFORE the housekeeping can
begin. If EVERYTHING includes images, than you wait till they
also download. If you skip images, then housekeeping will begin
immediately after text is downloaded.

> Have an option like "Download text first" to have HV download
> the HTML document (but just the text), then do the calculation
> (just as if Gif Display is turned off) and display the document
> with little squares instead of graphics and fonts and all. Then

No can do! Where should the boxes be displayed? How large? To
determine this the images must be downloaded first, processed
and their size and location can then be determined. Since that
means downloading images, then you wait.

> Then, once all the images have been downloaded, do a complete
> recalculation of the document with HTML and Graphics, and then
> redisplay, and voila!

Well, no, this makes even less sense that stopping every now and
then... You complained about slow processing and now you are
doubling it. Sorry. Let's just not beat this horse to death.

> > > - allow the user to download all images for the current page
> >
> > What is a "current page"? If you mean screenful then that concept does not
> > exist. All you need to do is change fonts and your "page" description is out
> > the window.
>
> What I meant was:
>
> If the user has Gif Display turned off, then no images show up
> in HV. But after reading all the text, if the user know wants
> to see all the graphics in that document, there's no way to
> tell WWW/LX to download them -- for that document only. The
> only way is to click on all images one by one to download them.

Sure there is a simple way: Menu, Options, Display GIF (turn it
on!) then press CTRL-R (Reload). The document will then download
again, this time with all the images too.

> So basically, we're looking at a manual version of the process
> outlined above.

That all exists already. Please feel welcome to use it.

> > > - allow the user to PAGE-UP/PAGE-DOWN while downloading images.
> >
> > Cannot do this because you do not have the entire entity (i.e. the document)
> > downloaded yet, and you do not have information about its dimensions, its
> > links, etc etc. That process happens AFTER all the data is downloaded.
>
> Well, if it is possible to have HV display the HTML page without
> graphics, and also display it with graphics, and consider both
> an *entire* entity, then the two-step process should work.

If a one step is too slow for you then your suggestion to turn
it into a double process will slow you down even more and you
will not be satisfied. It makes no sense to me to do something,
then turn around and do it again, only longer, and all the while
not let you see anything more than what is on the screen. Please
rethink this.

If you want to display faster, skip the images. If you believe
some image is indispesable, say it is discussed in the text you
are reading, then click on it and download only what you need
instead of every blippin' image and twirling icon and doodad the
Webmaster decided to put on that document!

Enjoy. We believe that HV is now about as optimized as it will
ever be. Thank you for the suggestions.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:06:23 +0100
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Hi Peniel,

> > I am using VDE as my main editor on the HPLX. Sometimes when
> > editing there is an inverted exclamation mark appearing in the
> > text. Does anyone of the other VDE-users know what it means?
>
> Hi, Reinhard-
>
> I also use VDE as the main editor, both for writing docs, and as the XF
> editor.  Is this inverted as in upside down or inverted as in inverse
> video?  Either way I haven't seen this in VDE, and I've been using it
> for about 4 years or more...

The exclamation mark is in inverse video, now I figured out that
it is somehow related to hyphenation and it seems to be no
"buggy" or irregular behaviour. I am using autoformat in
document-mode, Here is an example of what's happening:

one two three four-
five

Given that there is no hard return after "four-".  Now if I
delete some words in the first line, five will "jump" into the
first line and the inverse exclamation mark will appear in front
of the hyphen: "four!-five".

I thought that it was some irregular behaviour - but it does not
seem so - and that someone could answer my question ad hoc, so
pardon me. I will "RTFM", which is currently not at hand.

Reinhard



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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:26:52 -0400
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>P.S.  One of the strange things that Jorgen's program is known for doing=
,
is
>sound an alarm even when the volume is turned off on Sysmgr!  I would
feel

With the many recent references to "Jorgen's clock program" I shall have
to emphasize that they refer to an EXM clock program made by Jorgen
Wallgren.

I would like to add that none of the programs made by me: Jorgen Dybdahl
will make *any* changes to the general settings of the machine except
where stated and expected (e.g. INITLX.COM, TIMEOUT.COM, TRICKLE.COM,
FASTCHG.COM, CHARGE.COM etc. are *expected* to change things on the LX).

Though currently teaching in a UK university, I am a professional
programmer and while I may not be perfect, I am very careful not to make
any changes to the general settings of the machine.

My clock programs (DOS .COM programs, not .EXM):

  CLKB.COM  TSR clock
  CLKC.COM  TSR Time management (multiple timers) Ýnot on Super¨
  MCB.COM   Big clock with calendar etc.
  BIG.COM   Big clock

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:58:32 +0100
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Fryday wrote:
> Yep, that's exactly what I mean, but I just wish the progress dialog wasn't
> there. As things are right now, I spend half of my time downloading images
> (waiting all this time and draining my batteries) to then realize that I didn't
> necessarily need all these images once I read a bit of the text.

That's why I suggested to turn off downloading of images. If you want
to see one, you can still select the corresponding link and downloading
it.

> - allow the user to stop all image downloads at any time for the current page

Press CTRL.

> - allow the user to download specific images

Turn off automatic download and choose the ones to download by
selecting the corresponding link.

> - allow the user to download all images for the current page

Turn on automatic download of images and wait until all images are
downloaded.

> - allow the user to turn off image download dialog

This cannot be done as it is now and I won't implement it. Sorry!

> - allow the user to PAGE-UP/PAGE-DOWN while downloading images.

This requires a multi-tasking (or at least a multi-threading) system.
Out of reach on the palmtop.

But anyway - and that is why I had to say sorry above - there WILL NOT
be any further development for HV. If it works as it is, use it.
Otherwise, use any other product. I am NOT ABLE to improve HV in any
way. It is the most ugly piece of code I have ever written. It was
pushed way beyond what is "reasonable" to be done on a palmtop. There
are hundreds of dirty tricks to make it work as it does. But
that makes the code completely un-maintainable. If I try to change
something, I can say for sure that I break some other things. Of
course, I would LIKE to improve HV, but I am simply not able to. It
would require a re-write from scratch. And that would not help at all
unless I could write it for a more powerful machine (especially with
more memory available, and luxury would be a multi-tasking OS).

So for any suggestions to improve HV, I must say: sorry!

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Steven Lawson wrote:
> That's odd..  If you have a trace I'd like to check it against my PPP
> book (though you're probably more familiar than I am with that layer).

I have no access to AT&T, just had a WWW/LX log from somebody who has
access. I send it to you by email. I hope the syntax is understandable.
If not, I will gladly explain. Thanks for looking into it!

> Heck, maybe they've realized that allowing
> people dial into their network was a security risk and this is their
> answer! :-)

LOL!

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 12 Jun 1999 03:59:57 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Bill Schell wrote:

>Does any one have any macros or other software that makes
>SECDEV easier to use with the built in apps?  I'd like to
>store my phone book, etc., on a SECDEV device.

I'm doing that now. I'm not sure what you're seeing that you would be
helped by a macro. The software is pretty easy to use once you get it
installed. If you try to use an app that accesses the secure drive
letter after it's timed out, it makes a beep-boop sound, and which
point you enter your password, it makes a boop-beep sound, and
everything works.

--=20
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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It's not a problem for the lx. The virus uses the Win MAPI to do its
deeds. Probably also compiled to only run on 32 bit processors.

I work at a government lab. A couple of days ago we received
instructions to shut down and reboot all PCs running Windoze as a
consequence of this virus.(Active virus checking software running in
background of every machine automatically updates itself each time the
machine is rebooted). The virus was first discovered June 6th.

GaryS

> Friday 6/11 TGIF.
>
> Ain't nobody gonna comment on this?
> Or is it another hoax, hmmmmmmm.
> Or ain't nobody heard 'bout it yet/
>
> yor pal al................................
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:28:43 -0600
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Put very nicely!!! You could not have said it any better.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Ken Hansen wrote:

> I don't think recycling batteries is "PC" - it is simply a common
> sense answer to a fundamental question - How to reduce toxic
> trash in landfills...
>
> To be "PC" is to deny the truth to avoid hurting someones
> feelings...
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: NiCd - NiMH factoids...
>
> On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:46:56 -0500, Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET> wrote:
>
> > However long they last, dispose of them properly.
>
> Uh..... I think the list is turning politically correct <g>. I gotta email
> Rush Limbaugh and let him know..... he will be so disapointed!
>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:59:01 -0400
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Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:56:07 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     Sorry, the HPLX-L went down sometime Fri-Sat, and I was just
alerted to it (Thanks Daniel!). Busy weekend, or I would have caught it
sooner...My apologies to you all. All is well now...Carry on!

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:00:19 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Hi! Please send me a list of the stuff you have for sale!

Thanks!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 10:16 PM
Subject: FS: Help me with this stuff?


> I hit the motherlode at an auction last week and now I have too much
> stuff and need to sell it!
>
> 14.4 modems, software (some still shrink-wrapped and some free - for the
> price of shipping), HP Laserjet II printers, etc.  Reply off-list for a
> list of products.
>
> Anyway, I'm not planning on making much off of this, only on breaking
> even, so this cannot be construed as a commercial message, besides, none
> of this money  is going in to my business account.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard Smith
>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:09:18 -0700
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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From:         Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: AT&T Worldnet Woes
Comments: To: Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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I have a concern here too. I have been using IBM.net for access when I
travel. I am wondering if the same will happen to them as soon as AT&T
takes over.

karl
At 02:20 AM 6/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Some good news for a change: I finally got Post/LX and WWW/LX to work the
>way they're supposed to...problem apparently was not enough room on the c:
>drive for the swap file.  Many thanks to all of you who were patient and
>helped me along.
>
>The other problem I have may not be resolved without changing my isp.  I'm
>curious if any of the more technically savvy folks on the list have had any
>luck talking with the AT&T Worldnet support people regarding the apparent
>changes in their system and the problem accessing the service with the 200lx.
>
>I tried  the 4 local Salem Oregon AT&T access numbers tonight, and none
>would allow a connection; the only one that will work is 800-543-3279.  I
>tried their 888 number, but it won't work.  I'm quite disappointed in this
>turn of events, since I went with AT&T because they had access numbers all
>over the country, and I specifically got the 200lx to use while travelling;
>now I understand they may be  changing their system around so I won't be
>able to use it.  If they leave the "800" number alone, I guess I'm ok while
>travelling in the States, but in Canada I'll not be able to dial in, since
>their 800 number doesn't work from across the border.
>
>There probably aren't enough 200lx users that use AT&T to make any economic
>difference to them, so maybe we will have to switch to different isp's?
>I'm curious what others have found out about this issue, and if
>complaining/discussing it with them has produced any positive response.  If
>there's a specific group at AT&T that knows/cares about this problem, I'd
>like to know where to call so I can deposit my $.02 worth where it will do
>the most good!
>
>TIA,
>
>Al
>Al
>
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>
>

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:11:30 -0500
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: ADMIN: List up again...sorry :-(
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Hey.....no need to apologise.  As a user, I expect a little down time once
and a while.

Please keep up the good work on the fantastic Hp200 list.

Many thanks,
Jon

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 10:59 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ADMIN: List up again...sorry :-(
>
>
> Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:56:07 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>      Sorry, the HPLX-L went down sometime Fri-Sat, and I was just
> alerted to it (Thanks Daniel!). Busy weekend, or I would have
> caught it
> sooner...My apologies to you all. All is well now...Carry on!
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
> *Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
> *3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
> *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
> *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX
>
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>

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:12:14 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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All right, I give up.

Back to lurking...

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:18:10 -0600
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              John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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Dave - wrote:

> here is another idea.....
> i use the dl123 3v Li batteries in my camera.....
> anyone ever try to run the 200 with one of these?

Along these lines, does anyone know if there are plans
for manufacturers to come out with a Nimh version of the
DL123??  These are also used in cameras.  I'd love to see
a nimh version so I can cram several into a small backpacking
radio!!!

john

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:22:33 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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> So for any suggestions to improve HV, I must say: sorry!

And I'm sorry for trying to revive the thread!
I really didn't know about the moratorium on HV!

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:19:08 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Sorry for the bandwith, people... sent to the wrong address.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:52:07 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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I believe EarthLink has nationwide numbers as well as support for Canada.  I
don't use them, but my father-in-law recently signed up with them for those
reasons.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:53:43 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLuff:ÝHPLX-L¨ size=49

Aw, geez. I knew shoulda got that Collins translating dictionary from
thaddeus..

> -----Original Message-----
> From: luis cray Ýmailto:luiscray@YAHOO.COM¨
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 9:18 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ size=49
>
>
> Aca encontraste uno
> Por lo que decis parece que hace tiempo andas con la 200, yo empece
> hace
> poco y mi mayor interes es usarla como titulador por control remoto
> para mis
> MD; y de paso mantener una base de datos.
> Desde ya te mando un saludo
> Chau
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Federico Nachpitz <nachpitzfede@MOVI.COM.AR>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 7:44 PM
> Subject: Federico de Argentina
>
>
> > Hablas Espaqol??
> >
> > Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustarma tener algzn
> > interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas facil comunicar ciertas
> cosas.
> > Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU
> >
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:04:30 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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>
> Date:    Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:06:16 -0700
> From:    A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> Subject: OB 800CT adapter for European Countries
>
> Does anyone know about the "care and feeding" of the battery/charger
of the OB
> 800CT in UK? In Switzerland? Other European countries?
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>


Adapter is rated 100-240V 50-60 Hz. The national packs are just the
cord - You can either get an appropriate cord or just put the right
plug on the end of the existing one when you get there.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:20:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
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From:         Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      PC and Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker and Database files.
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Dear friends,
I sure hope there are no rules against repeating a question. I thought I
would try one more time on a problem I am having. I am desperate.
I have successfully installed the HP Connectivity Pack program on my PC
(Windows95), at home but my notebook computer (Compaq Presario), which is
the one I need to use the HP Connectivity Pack on the road doesn't run the
program. I transfer with TransfileWin200 so transfering files is not an
issue. I just want to use the Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker and
Database.
While trying to start the program with the app200 file, an error comes up
that says,
"Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH. Please remove it and try
again".
I would imagine this is because my computer is currently using something
that the HP Connectivity Pack needs to operate.
Finally, I would be happy if I could just use my Appointments, Phonebook,
Notetaker and Database files on my PC with Excel, Access or Outlook or some
simple DOS program. Is that too much to ask? Uggghhh!
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find where to start my
investigation?
Thanks,
Ken

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:51:27 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.  Does
anybody know how to recover it at this sort of detail?  I'm pretty sure
most of the data should still be here... but undelete won't find them
because they're in deleted directories.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:30:39 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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When I call TBlx (set to alt-Menu, since it is kind of a menu) I get a
listing of all of the programs actually running.  First is the "Start"
button.  Next is "Filer" and then all of the other things like "NoteTaker",
"Database", etc.  Highlighting a button and pressing "Del" will close that
task.  Closing Filer (even if it is not running) seems to free up about 60k
of memory.  Is this similar to the process discussed earlier to closer
Filer in order to free up memory?  Is this a bad thing?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:53:56 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Hunting for my utilities....

Hi All,

Managed to dump my C: drive and somehow not have a back-up of my "util"
directory.

I'm sure I have ZIP files of all, or can pull them off of SUPER, *but* which
utility set has two little items you add to your EXM manager, where one lets
you hit ALT-F9 for a FAST exit to DOS and ALT-F10 gives you a Win3.1-like
task chooser?  I think one of the files was called "closer" but I thought
I'd ask the list before I went hunting.... <I had over a meg in the util dir
:-(  >, I was doing back-up/maint. when it happened ÝI know I'm the guy who
ruined the files, before back-up was complete ... no one else to blame :-)
Heck, even Buddy's gone!  I'm going to go online for that one  -- want to
ensure I get the most recent update!  I know my S/N and should be able to
ferret out my reg. instructions....¨.

TIA,

--tim



Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:18:24 -0800
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Subject:      Re: PC and Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker and Database
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Finally, I would be happy if I could just use my Appointments, Phonebook,
Notetaker and Database files on my PC with Excel, Access or Outlook or some
simple DOS program. Is that too much to ask? Uggghhh!
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find where to start my
investigation?

    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------

Hi Ken and All,

Just to get you by I suggest installing the HP Windows version of App, Phone,
and use DBView for viewing your database and Notetake files.

HTH


Regards,


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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:43:48 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: large-font reader?
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Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:52:01 -0400 (EDT)

11h27m36s ago ...
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> Does anyone know if a program which will read a file with large text?  =
I
> like List, but it only seems to work with an 80x25 screen.  VR is good =
too,
> but reformats the text into a narrow column and sometimes I don't want =
to
> turn my palmtop on its side to read a file.

Hi Terry-

You might give Malcolm Drury's View a try.  Allows zooming on the
palmtops.  It's a lot slower than List, but that's because it's made
to allow viewing (and converting) several Word Processing formats and
HTML, and it checks the doc format first.

You can find a version on SUPER, but there's a newer one on the author's
page at:
        http://mdrury.hypermart.net/index.html

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:05:08 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Desperate: disk editor
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

re:
>I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
>Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
>files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.

NU will let you "stitch" things together 'til you've got what you want.

I've never tried it, but I remember seeing the ability to join or paste
clusters together and save as one file.  My book and program are at home,
but I remember, in theory at least, once you found the starting cluster of a
file, you could follow the pointers to the next clusters (wherever they were
on the disk) and link them together again.  I'd recommend making an *exact*
copy of your flash card before you start - that way you can always try
again; Also, I'm not sure about all the differences between the pointers,
etc. on a flash card and a floppy.  I mean, you can do a "diskcopy" on a
floppy and edit the copy all day ... if you goof, no big deal; BUT with a
flash card CAN you make a copy exact enough to work with?  I guess what I'm
asking the group is,

"Is there a way to make an exact enough copy of all the sectors of a flash
card to work w/ it?  Is 'diskcopy' enough and does it then have to be copied
to the exact-same type/size flash card or is there a utility that can back a
flash card to an area of the HDD that can be worked on to recover the lost
data, w/o editing the original medium <giving you the opportunity for a
second chance>?"

Perhaps those w/ better memory/experience w/ this facet of NU can help more.


Hope these thoughts help and get you onto the right track.

Good luck (from a guy who's trying to reclaim/recreate some of his own
data!).

--tim

Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:59:31 -0400
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17m51s ago ...
On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> When I call TBlx (set to alt-Menu, since it is kind of a menu) I get a
> listing of all of the programs actually running.
<snip>...
> Closing Filer (even if it is not running) seems to free up about 60k
> of memory.  Is this similar to the process discussed earlier to closer
> Filer in order to free up memory?  Is this a bad thing?

Hi again, Terry-

You're using X-Finder aren't you?  Looks that way from the subject
line.  If so, there's no problem with closing Filer.  (shouldn't be a
problem, anyway...)  I have XF configured to do that when it's
started.  Like you said it frees up space.

HTH

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18m53s ago ...
On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> I'm sure I have ZIP files of all, or can pull them off of SUPER, *but* =
which
> utility set has two little items you add to your EXM manager, where one =
lets
> you hit ALT-F9 for a FAST exit to DOS and ALT-F10 gives you a Win3.1-lik=
e
> task chooser?  I think one of the files was called "closer"

I think you're looking for TASKLIST.

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Highlighting a button and pressing "Del" will close that
task.  Closing Filer (even if it is not running) seems to free up about 60k
of memory.  Is this similar to the process discussed earlier to closer
Filer in order to free up memory?  Is this a bad thing?


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Terry thats a good thing, I use it all the time. I also use fclose.exm.

HTH


Regards,


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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

Ken
Thank  you for excellent thoughtful feedback
Can anyone spend the time to describe how
to do it (technically) on the LX part.

What about the PC110?

BTW: What does a 100 have that a 200 doesn't
have and why would you want the 100 when you
can have the 200?

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Subject:      PC and Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker and Database

LX Connectivity Pack.

>Finally, I would be happy if I could just use my Appointments,
Phonebook, Notetaker and
Database files on my PC with Excel, Access
or Outlook or some simple DOS program.
Is that too much to ask? Uggghhh!
>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find where to start my
>investigation?
>
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Ya somos varios locos de palmtop 200lx en espaqol, encantado de
podercomunicaenos en nuestro idioma.

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To:  <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 5:44 PM
Subject: Federico de Argentina


Hablas Espaqol??

Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustarma tener algzn
interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas facil comunicar ciertas cosas.
Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU

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A couple of people asked about where to get Lode Runner.  I can;t remeber where I found
it, but I did a search and here is one place to download it - as well as a patched
version to run slow enough to play on a pentium machine.  If you never played this game
download it and give it a try.  To set up the keyboard hit esc and k and follow the
directions to make your key choices for movement and digging traps for the mad monks.  I
use the arrow pad for movement left/right/up/down and q and w to dig left and right.


Hope you enjoy it again as much as I am.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:39:36 +0200
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i just posted a small file viewer to S.U.P.E.R.
it supports text and hex viewing and all the zoom modes of the HP-LX.

alan

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
Newsgroups: list.hplx
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Juni 1999 17:32
Betreff: large-font reader?


> Does anyone know if a program which will read a file with large text?  =
I
> like List, but it only seems to work with an 80x25 screen.  VR is good
too,
> but reformats the text into a narrow column and sometimes I don't want =
to
> turn my palmtop on its side to read a file.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Terry
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> Hey, isn't that a simple serial connector with an infrared LED in it?
>
there is more to it than simply lighting a led. the hp ir protocol uses
pulses 1/8 the width of a bit frame, so you have to do some timing, and you
have to do that in both directions. there has been a cricuit on the
eddie.mit.edu site a few years ago. it contains some simple digital ICs and
a quartz oscillator. the circuit was designed for 2400 baud, but can be
adpted easily for other baud rates. i built one and it worked fine at up to
19200 baud. i think i could find the original circuit if somebody is
interested.


> How difficult would it be to build one like this?
>
not very difficult, if you can use a solder iron. the components are cheap,
easy to get and easy to handle. it will become more difficult if you want to
fit it into a connector case like the commercial product. my circuit - with
standard sized, not smd components is about the size of a pack of
cigarettes.

hth
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I wish there was a snap-in 200LX ROM that could replace the CE ROM in
the 360LX.

Steve


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Ken Hansen ÝSMTP:khansen@NJCC.COM¨
        Sent:   Sunday, June 13, 1999 1:08 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Fluffy wish machine

        A few thoughts/reactions to your message:

        WinCE can run on an x86 processor (as of WinCE 3.0 I believe),
        but not neccessarily on an IBM clone x86 machine.



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Jeff Johns wrote:
> >  @echo off
> >  SET PGPPATH=c:\pgp
> >  c:\pgp\PGP.EXE -esa %1 -o scratch.
...
> I am *assuming* that the complaint about not being able to open the file
> scratch is because of a memory problem?!?

Most probably not. If it cannot open the file, it means that the file
does not exist or is in the wrong place.

What you could try in the above batch: replace "-o scratch" by the full
path, which should be "-o c:\www\post2\scratch" provided you have
POST/LX installed in c:\www\post2.

> Since I'm in a SC session that starts with 551K and the ony things loaded
> are WWW/LX and POST/LX, do I need to call MaxDOS?

Yes. PGP needs much more than 551k minus what WWW/LX and POST/LX needs.

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Avi -

Re: digital Cameras - I have an Hewlett Packard HP-30 Megapixel camera =
which I am very satisfied with - actually, my wife is very happy with it, =
though she tends to frown on my technological spending! It provides =
megapixel resolution, great color and clarity, and comes with good =
software - very intuitive. I bought two TDK 32MB CF cards from buycomp.com=
, each of which provides 68 pictures in the highest resolution mode. We =
found that waiting for the serial cable transfer was too slow, and are =
very happy with the speed of transfer now that we have a PCMCIA drive in =
our desktop. I tested the TDK CF cards in the HP and they work fine, =
though I haven't tried to view the pictures on the palmtop. I assume you =
could use Stefan Piechl's LXPIC to do so- but I don't think you would get =
as good as view as you would get with the built in viewer on the camera. =
My wife dropped it the first day we had it, and other than a plastic =
facade that I glued back on, it still works like a champ (Thank goodness =
for HP engineering!). We are very happy with it, and recommend it to you.

On a totally unrelated note - I have decided that ccLXPOP is a lot of =
effort without much payoff and am using POST again. I have two POST =
entries in the Application Manager - one for "compose" and one for "Send" =
... Is there a way I can put a command line parameter in the send line so =
that it will automatically go online? my current command line is:
c:\sys\maxdos.com c:\www\email.bat|

and email.bat looks like:
c:
cd \www
www "!post"

Is there a parameter I can stick in there somewhere so I don't have to =
push F5 (Online) to make it automatic?

Thanks -

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Filer/Undelete also undeletes directories as well.  Can you work backwards using
Filer/Undelete?

Make sure SC and all other utilities that write to the flash card are disabled
before starting so that the "deleted" clusters don't accidentally get reused by
something else.  Good luck.

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 06/14/99 10:51:27 AM

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Subject:  Desperate: disk editor




I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.  Does
anybody know how to recover it at this sort of detail?  I'm pretty sure
most of the data should still be here... but undelete won't find them
because they're in deleted directories.

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PMK32.ZIP (Professional master key) is on simtel Dos.
Its good and has an undelete and allows you to edit
and search "raw" disk.

David Sargeant wrote:

> I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
> Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
> files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.  Does
> anybody know how to recover it at this sort of detail?  I'm pretty sure
> most of the data should still be here... but undelete won't find them
> because they're in deleted directories.
>
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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

>I wish there was a snap-in 200LX ROM that
>could replace the CE ROM in the 360LX.
>
Does anyone know if this is doable with at least
the 386 SX 33 MHz.  If it can, why not the 650.
If it can, can someone explain?...

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yor pal al..........................
>

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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:

> Filer/Undelete also undeletes directories as well.  Can you work
> backwards using Filer/Undelete?

Nope... I made the mistake of doing "MD BACKUP" when it was gone.  Now
nothing will undelete from a deleted and replaced directory.  :(  And when
I try to undelete on my 32MB drive, I get a divide overflow error and
SysMan crashes.  I'm out of luck.

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Subject:      Digital Cameras & POST

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:47:13 +0000 Brian McIlvaine
<bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM> writes:
>Avi -
>
>Re: digital Cameras - I have an Hewlett Packard HP-30 Megapixel camera
>=
>which I am very satisfied with - actually, my wife is very happy with
>it, =
>though she tends to frown on my technological spending! It provides =
>megapixel resolution, great color and clarity, and comes with good =
>software - very intuitive. I bought two TDK 32MB CF cards from
>buycomp.com=
>, each of which provides 68 pictures in the highest resolution mode.
>We =
>found that waiting for the serial cable transfer was too slow, and are
>=
>very happy with the speed of transfer now that we have a PCMCIA drive
>in =
>our desktop. I tested the TDK CF cards in the HP and they work fine, =
>though I haven't tried to view the pictures on the palmtop. I assume
>you =
>could use Stefan Piechl's LXPIC to do so- but I don't think you would
>get =
>as good as view as you would get with the built in viewer on the
>camera. =
>My wife dropped it the first day we had it, and other than a plastic =
>facade that I glued back on, it still works like a champ (Thank
>goodness =
>for HP engineering!). We are very happy with it, and recommend it to
>you.
>
>On a totally unrelated note - I have decided that ccLXPOP is a lot of
>=
>effort without much payoff and am using POST again. I have two POST =
>entries in the Application Manager - one for "compose" and one for
>"Send" =
>... Is there a way I can put a command line parameter in the send line
>so =
>that it will automatically go online? my current command line is:
>c:\sys\maxdos.com c:\www\email.bat|
>
>and email.bat looks like:
>c:
>cd \www
>www "!post"
>
>Is there a parameter I can stick in there somewhere so I don't have to
>=
>push F5 (Online) to make it automatic?
>
>Thanks -
>
>Brian
>
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Does anyone know of a cheep digital camera
good enough for the LX?  No color needed
and should be able to interchange CFs with
the LX.  Don't need it for anything else.

yor pal al........................................

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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

> >I would love to see something like a libretto 50ct (75mhz pentium,
> >32m ram, hd, tft color) in a case maybe a little bigger than the
> >200lx. The problem would be where to put the battery. Currently the
> >battery is about 20% of the case volume, I don't think the volume of
> >the current battery would fit inside an lx case, let alone any other
> >parts with it. :-(
>
>
> The 2.5" drive would be a problem as well - both for power issues and
> space constraints...
>

I would be happy with a CF slot that could handle IBM's CF
microdrive. 340M is not alot but still pretty good.

> >I would have liked to see ibm and ricoh continue development of the
> >pc110 (486sx33, 20m, 2 pcmcia slots (or 1 type III), 1 CF slot, dual
> >scan color, about 1/2 the size of a libretto 50ct) I really like my
> >pc110 and since it uses readily available sony camcorder batteries
> >the battery life is not as big an issue.
>
>
> The standard battery is nice, but that really is a godawfulsmall screen!
> And the pointer is on the wrong side ;¬) But, it is a great basic design,
> and if the screen could fill the system lid, and a better pointer designed,
> then that would be a great machine!
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com

That's a funny thing to say since the screen is bigger than the 200lx
screen. It is also a very clear screen, higher resolution doesn't
have to mean unreadable. I used mine to surf the web for quite a
while and was happy, just would have liked more storage space. The
pointer on the wrong side is the same problem with the lib, you are
stuck using one hand only. I like trackpoints myself, like thinkpads
have, use any hand thats handy.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Does anyone know if JKIT works on a double speeded palmtop?
TIA
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:23:35 -0400
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Quinton
You once told me how to add DOS apps to run under Windows. Can you run that by
mean again.
Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:25:57 -0400
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Yes, it does.

Yujin



Does anyone know if JKIT works on a double speeded palmtop?
TIA
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Heroics

> I wanted to let everyone know that our beloved hardware genius, Mack, showed
> great courage and determination last night <g>. He and I came face to face
> with a wild animal. I, being the trusting one, followed some quick advice
> given to me by Mack and was quickly bitten by the animal. I decided that I
> would not make a second attempt to remove this wild animal from a busy
> roadway. Mack, quickly stepped up, took my baton, and after one or two 'close
> calls was able to remove this wild beast from the roadway  and saved it's
> life! I want everyone to know that Mack is not only an accomplished palmtop
> hardware guru, excellent programmer but also a very brave soul! You may be
> wondering what type of wild animal it was that we encountered while on
> patrol.... it was the biggest, meanest snapping turtle that I have ever
> seen... and yes, it did bite my foot :(
>
> Jeff
>

Geez, city folk. :-)

Snappers are easy, you just stick something in their mouth then pick
them up by the tail while the sharp end is busy. I was playing with
snappers when I was a little tot, in the storm water ditch down the
street from my house. My mother didn't always appreciate all the
interesting critters I brought home but I sure had fun catching them.

Pete

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Thanks Yujin

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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> floppy and edit the copy all day ... if you goof, no big deal; BUT
> with a flash card CAN you make a copy exact enough to work with?  I
> guess what I'm asking the group is,
>
> "Is there a way to make an exact enough copy of all the sectors of a
> flash card to work w/ it?  Is 'diskcopy' enough and does it then have
> to be copied to the exact-same type/size flash card or is there a
> utility that can back a flash card to an area of the HDD that can be
> worked on to recover the lost data, w/o editing the original medium
> <giving you the opportunity for a second chance>?"

That's what I need to do, back it up to the hard drive first,
sector-by-sector.  Anybody know how to do that?

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I use Word Perfect and Software Carousel but sometimes the WP commands involve
using shift and F keys. How does one avoid a conflict with Carousel?
TIA
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:31:57 +0200
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Try going to a cellular phone shop and get a universal 100-240VAC to12V DC
switchable adapter rated at about 600mA. They are getting smaller and
smaller, mine is 3x6x2.5cm and very light. Cut of the connector and solder a
jack that fits the 200LX (observing the polarity as illustrated on the
underside of the 200LX). Apart from being small, these things are usually
cheap.
Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@med.muni.cz

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From:    Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject: Who sells HP AC Adapter?
Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:
> if I can figure
> out a way to do so without paying more for shipping to Hong Kong than the
> cost of the product itself
Thomas Rundel (www.rundel-d.com) is in Germany.  Perhaps it
would cost less for him to ship to Hong Kong?
I can't believe there isn't a single place in Hong Kong to get
HP brand accessories.

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aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> Wrote:

Quinton
You once told me how to add DOS apps to run under Windows. Can you run that by
mean again.

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Hi Tony Guzewicz,

Boy! That piece of info. went down with a hard disk crash some months ago.

But as I recall you need to create a pif file with -1 under memory requirement,
no screen exchange, prevent program switch, and I think No save screen.

HTH


Regards,


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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:31:51 -0800
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:47, Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM> writes:
>
>On a totally unrelated note - I have decided that ccLXPOP is a lot of
>effort without much payoff and am using POST again.


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Sorry here this Brian!

But now that I have ccLXPOP and PNR setup and running just the way I want.
I'm sticking with them until the end.

Thanks Rod and Brian for these great .exm programs

.


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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:12:47 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:46:35 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

> Most probably not. If it cannot open the file, it means that the file
> does not exist or is in the wrong place.

PE does create the SCRATCH file?

> What you could try in the above batch: replace "-o scratch" by the full
> path, which should be "-o c:\www\post2\scratch" provided you have
> POST/LX installed in c:\www\post2.

OK, I tried that.

> Yes. PGP needs much more than 551k minus what WWW/LX and POST/LX needs.

It doesn't work either with MaxDOS or without MaxDOS :(

This whole thing is driving me absolutely nuts!!! I hate when I can't get
something to work and this is driving me absolutely crazy!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:50:49 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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This sounds like a great program for anyone with kids!  I know I am forever
telling my kids they have an hour left to play, and then setting the timer
on the microwave, or stove...  Since I'm usually in another room working,
and my palmtop is always by my side, this would be great little utility.

Sean

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From: Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 11:56 AM
Subject: Timer program for Exam Invigilations


I have a beta test ready of a DOS program to time exam invigilations.
The program will run on any DOS computer (including a HP-?00LX) and,
yes, you will have room for it: 632 bytes and, yes, you can afford it
too: it is free as usual. The snag is that you probaby will have no use
for it.

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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:29:51 -0400, aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> =
wrote:

> I use Word Perfect and Software Carousel but sometimes the WP commands =
involve
> using shift and F keys. How does one avoid a conflict with Carousel?

Change the hot keys in SC.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:43:50 +0000
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Anybody know of a source for the 64MB upgrade for Omnibook 800? I ordered =
one two weeks ago, but the company gives me the equivalent of a shoulder =
shrug when I ask when they will receive it. Suggestions?

By the way  - the OB800 is truly a great computer. It won't take the =
place of my HPLX, however.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:32:32 -0700
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A Meshar said ...
> Ok, Here is a question for the "tribal wisdom" here.
>
> What is a good digital camera to use? I am looking for something smaller than
> the Olympus "thingamajigs", and a bit more capable than the dim-witted Casion
> QV10 :-)

I've been very happy with my Nikon CoolPix 900.  It's a little larger than
the old Kodak Instamatics or an "Eskimo-Pie" ;-)

> A megapixel is ok, but not absolutely necessary. Removable media is required,
> and my preference would be a regular flash card. What is also required, IMHO,
> is a recording format that is "standard", say JPEG.
>
> Now comes the hard question: 8-) -- I want to be able to stick the card into
> the palmtop and look at the pictures.
>
> Price is another consideration, of course.
>
> So what do you all recommend? When you do, it would be great to relate your
> own usage of it. Also, perhaps by way of comparing, can we stick to the
> following criteria?
>
> 1. name, model, price

  Nikon CoolPix 900, $700 (I bought mine a while ago, so price has
  probably dropped).  Checkout the other CoolPix cameras as well.

> 2. Pic format, size of pic, number of pic

  Pictures are stored in a FAT filesystem in JPEG format.
  JPEG format: 1:4 (Fine), 1:8 (Normal), 1:16 (Basic) compression ratios.
  Two resolutions: VGA (640x480), XVGA (1280x960), 24-bit color.
  1.3Mpixels CCD.

> 3. How long to warm up, how long to register pic, how long to recharge

  About 15 seconds to power up.  2 frames a second in VGA mode, 1 frame
  ever 4 seconds in XVGA mode.  About 10 seconds to recharge flash.

> 4. Flash? Macro? Zoom?

  Builtin flash, Third-party provides Macro & Tele-photo lenses,
  Zoom is 2x digital + 3x optical.  945 step autofocus.  Red-Eye reducer.
  Note: when using the flash I've found that there is a 1 second delay
        from pressing the button to having the flash go off.

> 5. Read removable PC card on Palmtop?

  Compact Flash.  Camera comes with a 4Mb CF card.  I have a PC-Card
  adapter which I plug the CF into.  I'm using a 48Mb SanDisk CF and
  adapter.

> Did I mention all the criteria that are pertinent? What do you think?

As with any high-tech product, like digital cameras, I'd recommend a good
set of high-yield rechargeable batteries.  Get two sets and an external
re-charger.

I'd also recommend that you actually try each and every camera you are
considdering.  Good Hunting!

Checkout http://www.nikonusa.com for more info.

> TIA
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:31:49 -0400
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Avi,

> What is a good digital camera to use?

I am no expert on that - just use an Olympus C900 (out of my
head) owned by my company on rare occasions. Works fine and
simple, has its own data transfer software which needs to be
installed in windows environment. Data exchange only via cable,
data format is jpeg. Have my family pictures on palmi and open
them with lxpic :-)

Price around DM 1.000.- nowadays.

If you still have your cis account you should search HPHAND for
digital camera subjects - there have been high level
discussions recently.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:56:40 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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Subject:      Re: Desperate: disk editor
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Something like recover.exe or unformat.exe. I once had a crashed floppy. I
formatted the disk and then ran unformat.exe. The data was back! But, it's a
long time ago...

-goe-

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From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Montag, 14. Juni 1999 19:53
Subject: Desperate: disk editor


>I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
>Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
>files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.  Does
>anybody know how to recover it at this sort of detail?  I'm pretty sure
>most of the data should still be here... but undelete won't find them
>because they're in deleted directories.
>
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Subject:      Re: PC and Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker and Database
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>Just to get you by I suggest installing the HP Windows version of App,
Phone,
>and use DBView for viewing your database and Notetake files.


I would not recommend this, because the data will be changed (codepage,
blanks in the appointment note field etc.). Many ugly things. I don't use
these apps anymore, because I don't trust them.

-goe-

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.....

and as mentioned earlier, the "access the internet via email" stuff really
functions.

So there is no need of such a security risk. Or do you want the super site
hacked by evil WinCE hackers? Errr, that's not possible, because hackers
don't use WinCE ... ;-).

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:50:55 -0700
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              Philip Tait <pjt@PHXASE.ALLIED.COM>
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David Ness wrote:

> Ah. Well the when I was in Detroit last week, I was at the regular
> Detroit Airport. It's known as DTW so I just wondered. Where is
> your airport?

According to:http://www.iata.org/codes

Location code:
                                                           DTW
                                               City:
                                                           Detroit
                                               Location name:
                                                           Wayne County
                                               Country:
                                                           USA
                                               Country code:
                                                           US


Location code:
                                                         DTT
                                             City:
                                                         Detroit
                                             Location name:
                                                         Metropolitan
Area
                                             Country:
                                                         USA
                                             Country code:
                                                         US

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:03:29 +0200
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>What is a good digital camera to use?

A good traditional camera like a Nikon or Canon EOS, and a good scanner.
Of course, this is not the answer you want, but I think, the price is
relevant (isn't it?).
Until now I didn't see _really_ good pictures taken with a digital camera,
that had a comparable price to the above 'traditional' alternative.

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It seems to me, that some on the list are not satisfied with their LX ...
;-)

I think, we have to stay on the floor. The _really_ realistic wishes are:

+++ 286 processor*
+++ 640x400 CGA**
+++ 16/32MB RAM
+++ state-of-the-art IrdA standard (printing to 'Win95-devices')
+++ parallel port***
+++ 64 gray shades (NO color)****

* I remember, that my 286 desktop was faster than the 386sx. A real 386
would draw too much current, and I cannot see the real advantages against a
286. With a 286 we would have HMA available and we could use the UMB with
some special drivers.

** In the old days I had a Sharp PC/XT with 2 FDD 720KB, without harddisk. I
ran WordPerfect 5.1 on the floppies (the floppies were formatted with 800KB
or so, and WP.EXE was compressed). It ran ok and fast <g>. The screen was an
AT&T CGA 640x400. THIS IS BETTER THAN EGA! I was able to read the text on a
100% preview graphic screen! So I think, no VGA or EGA is needed.

I don't see any need of a backlight. If you count the time you _would_ need
a backlight, it is not worth FOR ME. Of course, for many users on the list,
it seems to be. The contrast of the LX screen is _so_ good. The conditions
_when_ you need a backlight are so bad (no light on the keyboard, the
train/car is shaking etc.) that it would not be possible for me to work.

*** Not as big as those parallel ports on the desktops, but similar to the
actual serial port with external adapter. I think, it was possible with the
serial port, so why not with the parallel).

**** Color is not necessary. It would be nice, but 'necessary' is something
different.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:38:44 +0200
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Subject:      Re: large-font reader?
Comments: To: Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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>Does anyone know if a program which will read a file with large text?

The easiest solution for me is file manager's F8 key. It displays the text
in 64 columns and wraps the lines. This (the line wrapping) is why I use
file manager for this. Some programs (like Memo and PE) don't do line
wrapping (or am I wrong?).

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:57:51 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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> Since I'm in a SC session that starts with 551K and the ony things =
loaded
> are WWW/LX and POST/LX, do I need to call MaxDOS?

You do need to call Maxdos... You've almost duplicated my Post/PGP
setup.  Make sure PGP is setup with PE as its application to display,
too.  (Pager variable in config.txt for PGP).



Bill Childers
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:42:57 +0200
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I like to create a file, where the filename is the actual date e.g.

   99-06-14.txt

Can this be done with the standard dos 5.0 and the command date?

Regards

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:33:57 -0700
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I use Word Perfect and Software Carousel but sometimes the WP commands
> involve using shift and F keys. How does one avoid a conflict with
> Carousel?

I always use the right shift key for WP's commands.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:36:40 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

> It seems to me, that some on the list are not satisfied with their LX ...
> ;-)
>
> I think, we have to stay on the floor. The _really_ realistic wishes are:
>
> +++ 286 processor*
> +++ 640x400 CGA**
> +++ 16/32MB RAM
> +++ state-of-the-art IrdA standard (printing to 'Win95-devices')
> +++ parallel port***
> +++ 64 gray shades (NO color)****
>
> * I remember, that my 286 desktop was faster than the 386sx. A real 386
> would draw too much current, and I cannot see the real advantages against a
> 286. With a 286 we would have HMA available and we could use the UMB with
> some special drivers.
>

There are low power 386 chips just like there are low poewr 286
chips. With only a 286 you do not have protected mode so you are
severely limited as far as alternate os's go. Even dos task switchers
run much better with the memory management of a 386. I used to run
desqview on a 386 and it was great.

> ** In the old days I had a Sharp PC/XT with 2 FDD 720KB, without harddisk. I
> ran WordPerfect 5.1 on the floppies (the floppies were formatted with 800KB
> or so, and WP.EXE was compressed). It ran ok and fast <g>. The screen was an
> AT&T CGA 640x400. THIS IS BETTER THAN EGA! I was able to read the text on a
> 100% preview graphic screen! So I think, no VGA or EGA is needed.
>

The problem with the non-standard CGA double scan, as it was called,
is that it is not compatible with many graphic programs. You get half
a screen or a striped screen. I have a couple of machines that use
that mode, it is nice but hardly worth the savings over a more
standard VGA. Also, there are very few chipsets that supported that
mode but lots that support vga.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:46:45 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Small post-crash mystery Ýtopcard¨

Hi all,

Slowly recovering from a crash Ý I *thought* I had a good back-up *NOT* ...
luckily I can recreate most, or won't miss it ¨.

Here's an odd little mystery, and I'm sure simple one:

My name no longer shows through the generic topcard's "cut out" window.  I
haven't used the palmtop's built-in topcard for a LONG time. When I first
recovered the palmtop (today), it showed through; when I restored my C:_DAT
contents from my flashcard, the text went away.

The "Owner" data is still in setup and the show picture box is checked ... I
copied the generic 200LX topcard.pcx out of the ROM ... (for the time being)
and it was fine 'til I restored my C:_dat stuff.  Is there a "switch" in
filer.ini or maybe the fact that I haven't redone my alarm sound, yet
something still points to a non-existent .snd file, tick some part of the
computer off here <I'm stretching on the sound thing, but that's to emph.
that there are some things that the computer may be expecting that just
aren't there right now....>

TIA,

--tim

Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:51:19 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      ccLXPOP and PNR
Comments: To: "qman@EARTHLINK.NET" <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>

re:
<Quinton Jones, Jr. Ýmailto:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨ wrote>
>But now that I have ccLXPOP and PNR setup and running just the way I want.
>I'm sticking with them until the end.

What's the 'secret setup'?  I've missed the thread and now that I'm starting
over w/ my setup, I may want to experiment.

PNR also has the "get" function, doesn't it?

I "blew up" my WWW/LX with my C: drive (no, not on purpose, I like WWW/LX)
and am not adverse to that to "get" NY Times, etc. ... will use whatever
works and am open to suggestion on this one....

TIA,

--tim


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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:54:02 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Parallel LS-120 and LX?

Hi All,

Has anyone successfully configured it w/ the parallel version of the LS-120
drive?  I want to do FREQUENT back-ups *and* this might also give me easy
access to regular floppies w/ the palmtop....

I know I'd have to buy the parallel card for the LX Ý anyone got one cheap?
<grin> ¨, but am not adverse to that.....

TIA,

--tim

Tim Raymond
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:09:24 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Lode Runner addicts try http://home.mieweb.com/lr/.  <g>

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:19:31 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  David, do you have a PCMCIA reader on your desktop or laptop computer?
The easiest solution would be to use one of several freeware/shareware
DOS-mode disk-image utilities on a desktop machine to create a disk-file of
the flash card.  You can probably find any number of them on simtel or
perhaps www.filepile.com.

       ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 3:29 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Desperate: disk editor
>
>
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
>
> > floppy and edit the copy all day ... if you goof, no big deal; BUT
> > with a flash card CAN you make a copy exact enough to work with?  I
> > guess what I'm asking the group is,
> >
> > "Is there a way to make an exact enough copy of all the sectors of a
> > flash card to work w/ it?  Is 'diskcopy' enough and does it
> then have
> > to be copied to the exact-same type/size flash card or is there a
> > utility that can back a flash card to an area of the HDD that can be
> > worked on to recover the lost data, w/o editing the original medium
> > <giving you the opportunity for a second chance>?"
>
> That's what I need to do, back it up to the hard drive first,
> sector-by-sector.  Anybody know how to do that?
>
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Stanley, John L. wrote:

>   David, do you have a PCMCIA reader on your desktop or laptop
> computer? The easiest solution would be to use one of several
> freeware/shareware DOS-mode disk-image utilities on a desktop machine
> to create a disk-file of the flash card.  You can probably find any
> number of them on simtel or perhaps www.filepile.com.

Yeah, I was able to do so using HDCP from simtel.  It's the only one I
found that would do it for the PCMCIA card, though.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:43:08 -0700
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> All right, I give up.
>
> Back to lurking...

You make it sound like exile... :-)

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:43:38 -0700
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> Adapter is rated 100-240V 50-60 Hz. The national packs are just the

Of course! I just flipped the adapter over ... and voila!!! problem solved.
Thanks for the quick solution.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:49:55 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Date
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              Helmuth E." at Jun 14, 99 10:42:57 pm
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>    99-06-14.txt
> Can this be done with the standard dos 5.0 and the command date?

Avi posted a batch file that creates an environment variable with
the date - it was a real convoluted monster, as I recall.  But in
any event, I think it would do what you're asking.  I don't know
if this was posted to SUPER or not.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:17:52 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

Hi Ken,

>If I only got one thing from my list, it would be the last one - the
drop-in
>charger/serial connection, even i it would only back-up the internal
>drives to an external PC...

  I simply couldn't help but interject this time!  ;-P

  As I reported a while back, I'm already doing that. In fact, I've gone
one step further by automating the whole operation ... all without any
special hardware upgrades, at all.

  I simply made my HP200LX a serially connected node on my home office
LBL network. One of my LBL networked Windows 95 machines wakes up every
early morning using Microsoft Plus's scheduler to do automated network
backups to optical disk. :-)

  It just so happens that my HP200LX's drives are included in those
backups! :-)

  If my HP200LX is found turned off at the time of backup, the HP200LX
will automatically sense the activity at it's serial port and turn itself
on, allowing the drive backups, anyway! Who needs a hardware upgrade?!
;-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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David, Sorry to read about the crash. (Did you back up? :-) ...)

> I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
> Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
> files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.  Does
> anybody know how to recover it at this sort of detail?  I'm pretty sure
> most of the data should still be here... but undelete won't find them
> because they're in deleted directories.

I think you can the diskedit to revive the directories. Their name is deleted
in the same fashion as files. You need to traverse the disk. When you reach
what used to be a directory, you can display it as a directory, forget the
key, something View As(?) Then you can undelete the files...

In the root, the directories are just "filenames" with an added indicator
making these "files" be known as directories. (This is also how you can make
directories invisible! Anyone who ever moved PCMCIAs from Palmtops to Win95/98
machines, would be surprised to find that they have a subdir RECYCLED. It does
not show, but you can enter command in DOS - cd \recycled and many times there
is not error. Run Attrib to see the files and subdirs in that directory. You
can delete as normal. Then when RECYCLED is empty, you can also RD it.)

Hope this helps some.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:43:28 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Digital Cameras & POST
Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@geocities.com>
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Brian,

> Re: digital Cameras - I have an Hewlett Packard HP-30 Megapixel camera

  Ý...¨

> for HP engineering!). We are very happy with it, and recommend it to you.

Thank you for the good detail. I saw the camera in the stores, but it seems a
bit largish to me. I am spoiled with the 200LX fitting in my pocket! :-)
Again, thanks to HP engineering! :) ...

I responded to the Post/LX in a separate thread.

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Brian,

> entries in the Application Manager - one for "compose" and one for "Send"

> c:\sys\maxdos.com c:\www\email.bat|
>
> and email.bat looks like:
> c:
> cd \www
> www "!post"

There is nothing specific that we have, but I bet you can use KS to stuff
keycodes into the buffer, all you need is to stuff F5-Online. I never tried
it, so it is untested. If it works, please post. If it does not work, please
post anyway! :) ...

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----- Original Message -----
From: Al Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
I have had a similar problem with my local ISP.  I have been trying to get
WWW/LX working to try it and found none of my portable (4) modems will
work.  They use to work fine.  Seems the ISP has upgraded equipment.   Only
way I can get the modems to connect is by putting ,,,,, behind the telephone
number.  The connection is so slow it times out.  Anyone got any ideas?

TIA

Ron

To: <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 5:20 AM
Subject: AT&T Worldnet Woes


> The other problem I have may not be resolved without changing my isp.  I'm
> curious if any of the more technically savvy folks on the list have had
any
> luck talking with the AT&T Worldnet support people regarding the apparent
> changes in their system and the problem accessing the service with the
200lx.
>

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You didn't say which company is giving you a problem.  My upgrade came from
PNY and has not given me any problems.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:21:27 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

>   I simply couldn't help but interject this time!  ;-P
>
>   As I reported a while back, I'm already doing that. In fact, I've gone
> one step further by automating the whole operation ... all without any
> special hardware upgrades, at all.
>
>   I simply made my HP200LX a serially connected node on my home office
> LBL network. One of my LBL networked Windows 95 machines wakes up every
> early morning using Microsoft Plus's scheduler to do automated network
> backups to optical disk. :-)
>
>   It just so happens that my HP200LX's drives are included in those
> backups! :-)
>
>   If my HP200LX is found turned off at the time of backup, the HP200LX
> will automatically sense the activity at it's serial port and turn itself
> on, allowing the drive backups, anyway! Who needs a hardware upgrade?!
> ;-)
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan

I understand how that can all be done but I don't understand one
thing, what is LBL?

Pete


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Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:34:59 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> David, Sorry to read about the crash. (Did you back up? :-) ...)

I did back up-- the backup is what I'm trying to fix.  <g>

> I think you can the diskedit to revive the directories. Their name is
> deleted in the same fashion as files. You need to traverse the disk.
> When you reach what used to be a directory, you can display it as a
> directory, forget the key, something View As(?) Then you can undelete
> the files...

It doesn't work, though, if you've already created a new directory of the
same name.  :(

> In the root, the directories are just "filenames" with an added
> indicator making these "files" be known as directories. (This is also
> how you can make directories invisible! Anyone who ever moved PCMCIAs
> from Palmtops to Win95/98 machines, would be surprised to find that
> they have a subdir RECYCLED. It does not show, but you can enter
> command in DOS - cd \recycled and many times there is not error. Run
> Attrib to see the files and subdirs in that directory. You can delete
> as normal. Then when RECYCLED is empty, you can also RD it.)

Yeah, I used to do spiffy tricks on shared school computers with DiskEdit
to change directories into files and then delete them, thus making them
inaccessible.  Then nobody could get into my valuable data.  <g> It would
show up as lost clusters, but I gambled that nobody would run CHKDSK
before I got back the next day.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:02:19 -0700
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Hans Peter:

> I am no expert on that - just use an Olympus C900 (out of my

I am leaning to the Olympus C2000 which is an evolution of the prior series...
They seem to be very nice mahcines... Use now a SmartModular Memory card,
instead of cable - I am sure the speed difference is immense.

> If you still have your cis account you should search HPHAND for
> digital camera subjects - there have been high level
> discussions recently.

I still have the acocunt. This is a good pointer - thank you!

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:08:52 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Date
Comments: To: h_e_guenther@CSI.COM

I have two DOS batch files that generate environment variables that can be
used anyway you wish. One batch file calls the other.  The paths may require
changing on your system...  I think they are modified from an article in a
very old PC WEEK magazine.

I'll send them to the author separately.  If there's much interest, they're
small enough to be included as part of a message.  Oh, what the heck.  Here
they are:

REM    ****THIS FILE IS NAMED MMDD.BAT**** IT CALLS DATETIME.BAT

@ECHO OFF
REM MMDD.BAT - Gets current month, day, year
IF NOT '%1'=='' GOTO OneChar
CALL DATETIME.BAT               REM   SEE BATCH FILE BELOW!
SET count=
:Loop
FOR %%v IN (/%date%) DO %0 %%v
:OneChar
IF '%Count%'=='' SET Month=%1
IF '%Count%'=='x' SET Month=%Month%%1
IF '%Count%'=='xxx' SET Day=%1
IF '%Count%'=='xxxx' SET Day=%Day%%1
FOR %%v IN (/%date%) DO SET date=%%v
SET Count=%Count%x
IF NOT '%Count%'=='xxxxxx' GOTO Loop
FOR %%v IN (DayOfWeek Time Count) DO SET %%v=
ECHO Month is "%Month%", Day is "%Day%",
ECHO Year is "%Date%"
ECHO Day in MMDD form is "%Month%%Day%"
set Filedate=%DATE%%MONTH%%DAY%
set
echo The Date in YYYYMMDD Format is %FILEDATE%

REM END OF MMDD.BAT

----------------------

REM BEGINNING OF DATETIME.BAT

@ECHO OFF
REM DATETIME.BAT - get date and time into REM variables
IF NOT '%3'=='' GOTO SecondTime
ECHO @PROMPT %0 $d $t > DTTM$$$1.BAT
COMMAND /E:512 /C DTTM$$$1.BAT > DTTM$$$2.BAT
DTTM$$$2
:SecondTime
DEL DTTM$$$?.BAT
SET DayOfWeek=%1
SET Date=%2
SET Time=%3
REM END OF DATETIME.BAT



-----Original Message-----
From: Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 6:26 PM
Subject: Date


I like to create a file, where the filename is the actual date e.g.

   99-06-14.txt

Can this be done with the standard dos 5.0 and the command date?

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:32:35 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Hi Avi.

I use a Konica Q-Mini, which is similar to Al Kind's former Canon Powershot 350.
- Both can be had for under $150 (used) and
- stores in JPG format on a CF, viewable on the LX.
- Starts up in about 1-2 secs and
- records at VGA (640x480) with 3 levels of compression.
- Each shot takes about 10 secs before ready for the next shot.
- Recharges NiCads in the camera in a couple of hours (never timed em, so don't
know exact numbers).
- built-in flash and macro, but no zoom
- I have a 16mb CF in mine with 105 shots (at medium res) with room for 100
more.

Additionally, the Konica lets me display the photos on a TV screen (ie, like a
slideshow) and this is always great in a crowd... but making printed copies of
the digital photos tend to be more time consuming and costly compared to
dropping off a 35mm roll at the local photolab.

Since you didn't mention hardcopy and specified that sub-megapixel resolution is
adequate (far below film), then the Konica/Canon would probably be something you
should look at.

This is an old camera, and I don't know what's out there that's new and current.
I took scads of photos using a 35mm SLR (Canon Rebel) and point-n-shoots
(Olympus Stylus) and have yet to find a digital camera that gives me the quality
I sometimes want at the price I can afford.  I'd love to find an SLR with hybrid
film and digital capabilities for say $500 so that I could get film quality and
print cost with digital instant gratification and playback (without duct-taping
my Konica to my Rebel <g>).

- Longden





A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> on 06/13/99 03:06:12 PM

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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Digital Camera




What is a good digital camera to use? I am looking for something smaller than
the Olympus "thingamajigs", and a bit more capable than the dim-witted Casion
QV10 :-)

A megapixel is ok, but not absolutely necessary. Removable media is required,
and my preference would be a regular flash card. What is also required, IMHO,
is a recording format that is "standard", say JPEG.

Now comes the hard question: 8-) -- I want to be able to stick the card into
the palmtop and look at the pictures.

Price is another consideration, of course.

So what do you all recommend? When you do, it would be great to relate your
own usage of it. Also, perhaps by way of comparing, can we stick to the
following criteria?

1. name, model, price
2. Pic format, size of pic, number of pic
3. How long to warm up, how long to register pic, how long to recharge
4. Flash? Macro? Zoom?
5. Read removable PC card on Palmtop?

Did I mention all the criteria that are pertinent? What do you think?

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---------------------- Forwarded by Longden Loo/AGH/Candle on 06/14/99 07:33 PM
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From: Longden Loo on 06/14/99 01:36 PM



To:   HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>, David Sargeant
      <david@HPLX.NET>
cc:
Subject:  Re: Desperate: disk editor  (Document link not converted)

Sorry to hear that.

Norton Utilities had the option to search for data by file cluster or sector and
then write them to disk (ANOTHER disk!), so that someone could try stiching the
data together. May not be practical if your data was big (say 5 meg), or binary,
or if your disk was heavily fragmented (a contiguous file would have its data on
consecutive clusters... hence an argument for defragging even on a RAM disk).

Live and learn.... when your data goes south, get a cup of coffee before
pressing that next ENTER key...of course I've burned myself often enough to know
that my own relationship with computers and data is roughly akin to a kid with a
loaded gun.  So I can empathize.

- Longden




David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 06/14/99 01:10:26 PM

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Subject:  Re: Desperate: disk editor




On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:

> Filer/Undelete also undeletes directories as well.  Can you work
> backwards using Filer/Undelete?

Nope... I made the mistake of doing "MD BACKUP" when it was gone.  Now
nothing will undelete from a deleted and replaced directory.  :(  And when
I try to undelete on my 32MB drive, I get a divide overflow error and
SysMan crashes.  I'm out of luck.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:14:12 +0000
Reply-To:     melancon@microgear.net
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lode Runner download site.
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It has been brought to my attention that it is good form to actually include the URL when
recommending a site.  Must be my oldtimers disease showing.

Anyhow here is the site:

http://w1.2222.telia.com/~u222200549/remakes/LodeRunner_PC.html


> A couple of people asked about where to get Lode Runner.  I can;t remeber where I found
> it, but I did a search and here is one place to download it - as well as a patched
> version to run slow enough to play on a pentium machine.  If you never played this game
> download it and give it a try.  To set up the keyboard hit esc and k and follow the
> directions to make your key choices for movement and digging traps for the mad monks.  I
> use the arrow pad for movement left/right/up/down and q and w to dig left and right.
>
Best Regards,
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:35:12 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Is it just me, or is anyone else having a problem downloading files from
S.U.P.E.R.?

Jeff

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I have an old copy of Family Origins for Dos that I have had for many
years.  I have enjoyed the software program and would like to install it
on my HP-200 lx with 2 meg of ram.  My father gave me his palmtop for
genealogy purposes and I am very anxious to begin working with it.

The Problem:
I install the software on my computer using transfile 200.  I can get it
installed but when I go to run it the program kicks out to dos.

I am wondering if I need to create a swap file on my computer to give
myself some extra memory?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I also have a copy of Paf 3.0 that I could use, has anyone tried it?

Thanks,

Lisa Cook

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Me too. I can't download the MiMac from S.U.P.E.R.

Roger S.

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I just got a Canon A5 zoom (under $350) and I love it.
Excellent lens and skin tones. See bookmarks below.
It's 4 x 2.5 x 1.5 in. It has 800x1000 and 530x320 resolutions.
>From what I read, it would probably take an 8x10 print
to see the improvements by the megapixel digicams.
The zoom is equal to a 35mm 28-70 (f2.5-4.). It uses a
2CR5 Lithium battery good for 500 shots or 100 min. using
the LCD. Canon has a kit with NiMH battery and charger for
$70 (on the net, if you can find it). I got just the battery from
egghead.com ($24) and slow charge it with a 7.5 v. power cube.

It comes with an 8meg CF card, get a PCMCIA adapter, and
the jpegs are displayable by LXPIC. Here the small res. 520x320
fits the LX screen 640x200 better.  The shutter latency is
typical of current digicams, press the shutter halfway, camera
takes 1 sec to autofocus, then press the rest and .3 to expose
(that typical for a SLR). Image storage takes 4 sec., whcih is
better than many. Camera takes 5 sec. to turn on.

Good review sites (many cameras, mostly highr end):
  www.megapixel.net/index.html
  www.steves-digicams.com/default.htm

Candid comments, digital is not all good news:
  www.imaging-resource.com/INDEX.HTM

An enthusitic user:
  www.zapcom.net:80/~webtech/CanonA5Z/index.html



A Meshar wrote:

> Ok, Here is a question for the "tribal wisdom" here.
>
> What is a good digital camera to use? I am looking for something smaller than
> the Olympus "thingamajigs", and a bit more capable than the dim-witted Casion
> QV10 :-)
>
> A megapixel is ok, but not absolutely necessary. Removable media is required,
> and my preference would be a regular flash card. What is also required, IMHO,
> is a recording format that is "standard", say JPEG.
>
> Now comes the hard question: 8-) -- I want to be able to stick the card into
> the palmtop and look at the pictures.
>
> Price is another consideration, of course.
>
> So what do you all recommend? When you do, it would be great to relate your
> own usage of it. Also, perhaps by way of comparing, can we stick to the
> following criteria?
>
> 1. name, model, price
> 2. Pic format, size of pic, number of pic
> 3. How long to warm up, how long to register pic, how long to recharge
> 4. Flash? Macro? Zoom?
> 5. Read removable PC card on Palmtop?
>
> Did I mention all the criteria that are pertinent? What do you think?
>
> TIA
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:02:51 -0500
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:27:26 -0600, Lisa Cook <lcook@WASATCH.COM> wrote:

> I am wondering if I need to create a swap file on my computer to give
> myself some extra memory?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Sounds like you should try MaxDOS. Good luck!

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:10:41 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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I have an idea.  Since it seems like quite a few people are interested in
digital cameras, and it would be nice to see the real image quality before
purchasing one...I will set up a web site devoted to some simple product
reviews, but more importantly with sample pictures from different cameras.

If anyone would like to send me some sample pictures, I'll put them up for
all to see.

I know that my experience with digital is that they don't compare to my
SLR's with a good scanner without spending an arm and a leg.  This might be
a good way to show off how some of these digital cameras work in the real
world, and a good way to compare them.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:12:47 -0700
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              ALAN KIRK <KIRKA@RIDGECREST.CA.US>
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Sean, I have a Kodak 620 and could send a photo from it.  Where should I
send it?

Alan Kirk
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From: Sean Hoger <shoger@buyrite.com>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Camera


>I have an idea.  Since it seems like quite a few people are interested in
>digital cameras, and it would be nice to see the real image quality before
>purchasing one...I will set up a web site devoted to some simple product
>reviews, but more importantly with sample pictures from different cameras.
>
>If anyone would like to send me some sample pictures, I'll put them up for
>all to see.
>
>I know that my experience with digital is that they don't compare to my
>SLR's with a good scanner without spending an arm and a leg.  This might be
>a good way to show off how some of these digital cameras work in the real
>world, and a good way to compare them.
>
>Sean
>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:14:05 -0700
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Sean, That last should have been "Kodak 260".   Sorry!!

Alan Kirk
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From: Sean Hoger <shoger@buyrite.com>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Camera


>I have an idea.  Since it seems like quite a few people are interested in
>digital cameras, and it would be nice to see the real image quality before
>purchasing one...I will set up a web site devoted to some simple product
>reviews, but more importantly with sample pictures from different cameras.
>
>If anyone would like to send me some sample pictures, I'll put them up for
>all to see.
>
>I know that my experience with digital is that they don't compare to my
>SLR's with a good scanner without spending an arm and a leg.  This might be
>a good way to show off how some of these digital cameras work in the real
>world, and a good way to compare them.
>
>Sean
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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:14:01 -0700
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
> The company (Intelisale) seems like a reasonable company, and
> based on the number of OB800ct they have (40 listed), I suspect
> these were all returned at the end of a corp. rollout... I suspect they
> are fresh off of maint. contract.

So I have a couple of stupid, off-topic questions: these come without
software, which I take to mean no Win95 installed.  How much trouble
will re-installing without the CD-ROM drive be?  How about supposing
that I have a PCMCIA SCSI card with MS-DOS drivers and a SCSI CD-ROM
drive?

I guess what I'm wondering is, how essential is the special Omnibook
CD-ROM drive for this sort of thing?

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:39:20 -0700
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The Mitsubishi. I have one and it is great. (approx $65.00)
It uses a compact flash. The only difficulty is it produces a
non-standard
file fomat.

Has anyone written a conversion to jpeg or pcx?

Bob

>Does anyone know of a cheep digital camera
>good enough for the LX?  No color needed
>and should be able to interchange CFs with
>the LX.  Don't need it for anything else.

>yor pal al........................................

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:44:14 -0400
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> I have the following in my KEY200.ini file:
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D snippet =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Fn More : More ¬More
> Alt More : Alt More ¬More ¬Alt
> Ctrl More : Ctrl More ¬More ¬Ctrl
> More : Alt F8 ¬F8 ¬Alt
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> More, Ctrl-More, Alt-More all work as expected.  However,
> Fn-More does not call up AppMgr.

Try this:

  ¬Fn More : ¬Fn ¬More More ¬More ! Fn-More =3D More

What follows the ! is a comment - helps to remember what this does.
I haven't done this with Fn, but the same sort of sequence does
work with Menu, and they are both "sticky" keys, so I think the
same principle would apply.  That is, define the key sequence as
a RELEASE of the Fn key, followed by More, and then you have to
release both of them in the key definition, then you can "hit"
and release the real key (More) in that definition.

Let us know how this works,
-Geo.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:24:21 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Norton Utilities had the option to search for data by file cluster or
> sector and then write them to disk (ANOTHER disk!), so that someone
> could try stiching the data together. May not be practical if your
> data was big (say 5 meg), or binary, or if your disk was heavily
> fragmented (a contiguous file would have its data on consecutive
> clusters... hence an argument for defragging even on a RAM disk).

Do you know which program it was that can do this?  I can see lots of my
data in clusters on the disk, using DiskEdit, but haven't figured out how
to stitch them together yet.  Some of it is fragmented, but this will only
be a problem for QDATA.PDT and JOURN.GDB, both around 500K of encrypted
data-- so I can't tell if they have rogue clusters interspersed.  I
guess I'll just have to guess.  :(

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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> My palmtop is no longer functioning.  If anybody has one for sale, or
> knows of a good place to get one, I need to get a new one ASAP.
>
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Dave I think you remember me. I have a 5MB DOUBLESPEED with 4-pack
battreies and

ABC/LX Software all for $375.00 I was going to put it EBAY. Should I
wait for you,

giving you first crack at it? (It's not new but in excellence condition)

                              Let me know

                                  Bob1
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:54:32 EDT
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Helmuth,
I keep dated diary files by inserting the letter D before the date, ie;
D010199.DRY. I hope this helps.

Dennis

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:14:32 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> PE does create the SCRATCH file?

PE does READ the SCRATCH file, which is supposed to be created by PGP
(the -o option tells PGP to name the output file).

> > Yes. PGP needs much more than 551k minus what WWW/LX and POST/LX needs.
>
> It doesn't work either with MaxDOS or without MaxDOS :(

It works with MAXDOS w/o any problem.

What you see is not a memory problem. PE cannot open a file named
SCRATCH, which is supposed to be created by PGP. You can check if PGP
creates that file and WHERE it creates it.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:39:58 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT

   >> The company (Intelisale) seems like a reasonable company, and
   >> based on the number of OB800ct they have (40 listed), I suspect
   >> these were all returned at the end of a corp. rollout... I
   >>suspect they  are fresh off of maint. contract.
Message-Id: <19990615064003.HIKC2118@Ý12.72.154.69¨>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:40:03 +0000

   >So I have a couple of stupid, off-topic questions: these come
   >without software, which I take to mean no Win95 installed.  How
   >much trouble will re-installing without the CD-ROM drive be?  How
   >about supposing that I have a PCMCIA SCSI card with MS-DOS drivers
   >and a SCSI CD-ROM drive?
   >I guess what I'm wondering is, how essential is the special Omnibook
   >CD-ROM drive for this sort of thing?

I bought my 800CT new, but the harddisk came ready to configure for Win95
or Win 3.11 without needing the CD.  Not to say that's how these units are,
but who knows?

If the harddisk is clean tho, I'd imagine loading an OS would be a bear
without a CD (I have the HP CD drive that came with the OB800, so I can't
venture on how well the others work).

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:40:04 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Desperate: disk editor
Comments: cc: david@HPLX.NET

   >> Norton Utilities had the option to search for data by file
   >>cluster or  sector and then write them to disk (ANOTHER disk!), so
   >>that someone  could try stiching the data together. May not be
   >>practical if your  data was big (say 5 meg), or binary, or if your
   >>disk was heavily  fragmented (a contiguous file would have its
   >>data on consecutive  clusters... hence an argument for defragging
   >>even on a RAM disk).
Message-Id: <19990615064010.HILC2118@Ý12.72.154.69¨>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:40:10 +0000

   >Do you know which program it was that can do this?  I can see lots
   >of my data in clusters on the disk, using DiskEdit, but haven't
   >figured out how to stitch them together yet.  Some of it is
   >fragmented, but this will only be a problem for QDATA.PDT and JOURN.
   >GDB, both around 500K of encrypted data-- so I can't tell if they
   >have rogue clusters interspersed.  I guess I'll just have to guess.

I was running Norton Utilities 4.5 and it had an "Explore Disk" option that
lets you search for text and write sectors to a file (at least that's what
it looks like it does).  The program is NU.exe.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:31:56 +0300
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              Sachio Nohara <Sachio.Nohara@EA.MITSUBISHICORP.COM>
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Subject:      Re: JKIT and Double Speed Palmtop
Comments: To: ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU
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I also use double speed 200LX,It works well under JKIT. However,
problem occurs when I tried to use Magellan (introduced in HP Palmtop
Paper Vol8 Nov.2,1999).
The screen garbled.
Is there anyone who knows how to fix it?

Qasim

ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU wrote:
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> Yujin
>
> Does anyone know if JKIT works on a double speeded palmtop?
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:37:58 +0200
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How these followings are used while printing at appointment book. What is
the usage?
Initialization String
Termination String
I am looking for way to custumize prinying at appointment book, maybe these
 could help
 but I do not know what are these. Thank you in advance for your valuable
replies.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:00:46 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>This sounds like a great program for anyone with kids!  I know I am
>forever telling my kids they have an hour left to play, and then setting=

>the timer on the microwave, or stove...  Since I'm usually in another
>room working, and my palmtop is always by my side, this would be great
>little utility.

In so far as the children can see how much time is left, yes.
I think the normal alarm is better as it beeps until you switch it off.

I'll send it to you.

Jorgen

  =

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:24:48 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Does anybody know how password-encrypted GDB files are scrambled?  I've
got a huge drive dump here to go through, and if there's some sort of
algorithm I could apply (maybe using the HPCRACK program as a basis) to
unscrambled it ALL, then I could see which sectors are parts of the
database and which aren't.  I also need to do the same thing with my
Pocket Quicken file, but I suspect that one won't work out so well.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:26:11 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Chris,

> Avi posted a batch file that creates an environment variable with
> the date - it was a real convoluted monster, as I recall.  But in

Yes, said monstrosity sent to helmuth per his request. I like the word
"monster" to describe it.

I got it from Ed Keefe, I believe, and massaged it in a big way. It works
nicely.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:26:16 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Date
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> I have two DOS batch files that generate environment variables that can be
> used anyway you wish. One batch file calls the other.  The paths may require
> changing on your system...  I think they are modified from an article in a
> very old PC WEEK magazine.

Looks very very similar to mine. I got mine from Ed Keefe, I believe, and
massaged them a lot. I had three batch files in the set, though... Looks
awfully similar, but not identical.

I sent mine to Helmuth per his request.

Well, looks like there are many ways to skin a cat! :-) ...

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:33:02 -0400
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              Luca Zanetti <LUCA.ZANETTI@NTT.IT>
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Subject:      Re: Alpha 5 Database
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At 02:11 AM 06/13/1999 +0000, you wrote:
The best and last version that you can load on Hp200lx is this DOS version:
Alpha 4 vers. 2.1 (true relational database).
The Alpha 4 vers. 6 requires a better processor (386) and 4 Mb Ram (for me
the best version for professional application).
All the Alpha 5 versions need Windows.

LZ

>Does anyone know if the Alpha 5 Database is a good database for running on
>the HP200LX?
>
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Sean,

> I have an idea.  Since it seems like quite a few people are interested in
> digital cameras, and it would be nice to see the real image quality before
> purchasing one...I will set up a web site devoted to some simple product
> reviews, but more importantly with sample pictures from different cameras.

Thank you. I am travelling. I am buying ths for putting up on the web for
viewing on monitors. Is your advice still the same?

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:35:17 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>I like to create a file, where the filename is the actual date e.g.
>
>   99-06-14.txt

I have written one in assembler (78 byte executable). The program will
not overwrite an existing file so data written to the file are safe.

I have uploaded the program with source to Super so you can change the
date format and whatever else. Name "2DAYFILE.ZIP".

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:36:06 +0200
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Avi,

> Yes, said monstrosity sent to helmuth per his request. I like the word
> "monster" to describe it.

Thanks a lot Avi. It is amazing. All my respect to the author!

Again thank you.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:08:32 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> A while back there was a brief flurry of discussion about HP's
> Capshare scanner. The thread died pretty quickly, and I havent
> seen `word one' about the Capshare in comp.periphs.scanners
> or any other HP list. And I haven't seen any reviews based on
> actual use.
>
> Are they out? Did anyone here get one? Any comments about how they
> work? Anyone seen reviews anywhere?

Go to: www.capshare.com or www.mobileplanet.com for more info.  Yes they
are out MobilePlanet has them.  I haven't got one, yet!  I can only
comment that I liked what I read & want one, not that my wife shares the
same view of what I need.  That's all I can add.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:08:39 -0500
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> On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:59:46PM -0700, bob wrote:
> > The program that is disabling my shutoff is Hisword. Tom, are you
> > listening? Does anyone know if there is a method of configuring =
Hisword,
> > to NOT disable the automatic shutoff?
>
> HisWord itself doesn't do anything to disable the shutoff.  I just =
verified it on my machine and it shutoff like it should.
>
> > Here is what happened. I was reading Hisword, turned of my 200 and =
went
> > to sleep. An alarm woke up the 200 (still in Hisword) and nothing =
shut
> > it off until everything was completely dead including drive c: (all =
data
> > lost)
>
> I just tried to duplicate the sequence of events.  I set an alarm, =
started HisWord, waited for the LX to automatically shutdown (it did), =
the alarm re-awoke the LX, and then waited once more for the LX to =
automatically shutdown (it did).
>
> I'd suspect a TSR is causing a conflict...if not that, I don't have any =
other ideas.
>
> --
> Tom Hoover N5NTM <tom@hisword.net> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
>     - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
>      ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

I agree with Tom.  I use Hisword often and usally wait until my LX times
out, and it always does.  You must have something else making the LX not
time out.

BTW, Hi Tom, still use your program, almost daily! :-)



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:34:19 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi Daniel & List!

> I'm also using Jorgen's HPALARM clock. It's not strange to me that it
> turns the volume on when making an alarm. It's an advantage!
>
> If you turned off the volume on SysMgr and the appointment book makes
> an alarm, the volume is also switched on, isn't it?
>
> HPALARM has it's own volume setting (F2) that it's using all the time
> it fires up and beeps.

Daniel, your explaination is perfect. I have nothing to add here.

>
> The only problem _I_ have with HPALARM is that it sometimes simply
> _does_no_ alarm, although I set it up to beep 7.30am. That's a little
> bit strange (and dangerous, if my 'inner clock' doesn't notice that's
> already time to wake up!).

I once experienced that HP Alarm Clock didn't alarm. But on the other
hand, Appointment Book didn't either- so I have no idea what it was. The
most important thing with HP Alarm Clock is that you start it if you
have earlier terminated SysMgr or done a reboot. The Alarm which HP
Alarm clock sets, dissapear if you exit SysMgr or reboot. The built-in
apps with alarms has the advantage that when SysMgr starts, it check the
apps and if a future alarm is found, they will be set. SysMgr can't
include HP Alarm clock, so I solved it in another way. If you reboot
your palmtop and then start HP Alarm Clock- you will hear a beep. This
confirms that a future alarm is set, but not found- so it's set again. I
got the habbit, to actually run HP Alarm Clock just before I go to bed-
in case I did something earlier. Then there are many ways to make HP
Alarm Clock start up by it selves when you start SysMgr...

Regards,

Jorgen

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Avi,

> Looks very very similar to mine. I got mine from Ed Keefe, I believe, =
and
> massaged them a lot. I had three batch files in the set, though... =
Looks
> awfully similar, but not identical.
>
> I sent mine to Helmuth per his request.

Thank you very much, especially for having the file perfectly
documented to my needs. I owe you a beer, looking forward to drink it
with you.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:05:15 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Family Origns 3.0 for Dos
In-Reply-To:  <3765C81E.E4E000B5@wasatch.com> from "Lisa Cook" at Jun 14,
              99 09:27:26 pm
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> I also have a copy of Paf 3.0 that I could use, has anyone tried it?

I've  had PAF on my palmtop for several years.  I don't use it much,
but my mother-in-law bought an HP-100 exclusively so she could run
PAF while at the library and other geneology research places.  I don't
know which rev PAF I'm using - I just ordered the latest one for DOS
at the time I bought mine.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:18:34 +0000
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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For those of you having difficulty getting WWW/LX to work with Worldnet, =
if
you have a copy of their previous release, it should still work. That is
what I found.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:22:40 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: OB800: Memory Upgrade Source
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Brian,

Try Epoch Sales.  They are down the street from Kingston.  They are =
listed at the Kingston web site.  I got a 24 meg for a 600CT from them =
quickly a cuople yrs. ago.    =3DBob=3D

> Anybody know of a source for the 64MB upgrade for Omnibook 800?<

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:29:16 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:14:32 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

> What you see is not a memory problem. PE cannot open a file named
> SCRATCH, which is supposed to be created by PGP. You can check if PGP
> creates that file and WHERE it creates it.

The following few lines are from my config.txt from PGP.... should I tell
PGP where to create the file named 'scratch'?

MyName =3D "Jeff Johns"
Language =3D en
CharSet =3D Latin1
Pager =3D c:\pe\pe.exe
clearsig =3D on
Completes_Needed =3D 1
Marginals_Needed =3D 2
Cert_Depth =3D 4


Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:34:41 +0200
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<Thank you. I am travelling. I am buying ths for putting up on the web for
viewing on monitors. Is your advice still the same?>

Are paper pictures so heavy?

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:46:41 -0400
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Depending on the cost and how bad you want it. I would suggest getting a
copy of Rescue. It is designed for recovery of files on a crashed drive. I
have used it for hard drives and floppy recovery. It has worked very well
for me.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephan Goeldi ÝSMTP:stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH¨
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 16:57
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Desperate: disk editor
>
> Something like recover.exe or unformat.exe. I once had a crashed floppy. I
> formatted the disk and then ran unformat.exe. The data was back! But, it's
> a
> long time ago...
>
> -goe-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Montag, 14. Juni 1999 19:53
> Subject: Desperate: disk editor
>
>
> >I've got my flash card opened with the DISKEDIT.EXE program included with
> >Norton Utilities.  Somewhere on this vast thing are a bunch of deleted
> >files that contain most of the data I lost when my palmtop crashed.  Does
> >anybody know how to recover it at this sort of detail?  I'm pretty sure
> >most of the data should still be here... but undelete won't find them
> >because they're in deleted directories.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:19:57 -0700
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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I don't know about the PCMCIA path, but you can use the SCSI CD-ROM
directly.  The ob800 has an on-board SCSI controller.  You can hook up the
CD-ROM drive in one of two ways.  First, if you have the port replicator, you
can plug it into the SCSI connector in the back.  The second option is to get
a special HP cable which, I think, plugs into the port replicator port.

It's also possible that you could include the PCMCIA DOS driver in the
Recovery boot floppy.

Wayne

Frank McConnell wrote:

> Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
> > The company (Intelisale) seems like a reasonable company, and
> > based on the number of OB800ct they have (40 listed), I suspect
> > these were all returned at the end of a corp. rollout... I suspect they
> > are fresh off of maint. contract.
>
> So I have a couple of stupid, off-topic questions: these come without
> software, which I take to mean no Win95 installed.  How much trouble
> will re-installing without the CD-ROM drive be?  How about supposing
> that I have a PCMCIA SCSI card with MS-DOS drivers and a SCSI CD-ROM
> drive?
>
> I guess what I'm wondering is, how essential is the special Omnibook
> CD-ROM drive for this sort of thing?
>
> -Frank McConnell
>
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:26:54 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:12:43 -0400 (EDT)

05h28m28s ago ...
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Bulent Bicioglu wrote:

> How these followings are used while printing at appointment book. What =
is
> the usage?
> Initialization String
> Termination String
> I am looking for way to custumize prinying at appointment book, maybe =
these
>  could help

Hi-

Initialization String can be used to select font size and type etc.
Perhaps also landscape mode if the printer supports this.

Termination String is sent after printing is complete.  Maybe to send a
form-feed to kick out the last page.

Both of these use control codes for your printer.  I don't know what
you're using so can't help with these.  Check your printer manual.

The format for control codes is \nnn  (Esc would be \027)

Just checked in my 200LX manual.  You can find more in the Memo Editor
chapter.  In mine the info you need is on page 7-17

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:28:45 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Anybody have a Capshare?
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The `Capshare' site is essentially unchanged over many months, if not
a year. It is a typical manufacturer `promo' piece (IMO), and not
designed to `inform' but rather to `sell' (no surprise there).
 The `mobileplanet' site contains no useful information, other
than a click to a `VBScript error' for the Capshare. At least as of
now.

I have at least heard from one `real' user. So it surely is true that
they are out. It also appears to be true that they are making
no `splash' whatsoever, at least anywhere that I can find.

To sum it up, they appear to do what is advertised but turn out to
be not so wonderful that many people `need to have one'. I think I'll
wait till they're remaindered...

Robert Hocking wrote:
>
> Go to: www.capshare.com or www.mobileplanet.com for more info.  Yes they
> are out MobilePlanet has them.  I haven't got one, yet!  I can only
> comment that I liked what I read & want one, not that my wife shares the
> same view of what I need.  That's all I can add.
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:38:48 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Digital Camera

<shoger@BUYRITE.COM> writes: I have an idea.
> Since it seems like quite a few people are interested
>in digital cameras, and it would be nice to see the real image quality
before purchasing one...I will set up a web site devoted to some simple
product reviews, but more importantly with sample pictures from different
cameras.

Thanks a lot,
Submissions should include camera, model, cost,
and at least significant specs.

yor pal al..........................................................

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:59:38 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
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From:         Ken Moore <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      Re: PC and Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker and Database files.
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I tried the HP PIM program and like it very much. Unfortunately, the
phonebook program doesn't open my custom phone file. Is that the experience
of anyone else?

Thanks,
Ken

Al wrote:
     Sounds like you need the Win HP-PIM apps.  I believe the phone app will
open .GDB as well

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      File back up

Good Tues morning
File back up requires more than copy *.* to
(the same) a media.  It needs at least three
copies.  A forth for off site on a monthy basis
(updated monthly) for reference would be
good insurance.

Copying to the same flash card in a not a
good deal because you usually don't have
enough time to be aware there is a problem.
What happens more times than not is you're
copying garbage on top of a (possibly) good
backup.  Coying multiple copies on the same
media is little better than nothing. Making
copies to different partitions of the same drive
is sameo sameo for if the drive goes, all
partitions go with it.

yor pal al........................................

>Does anybody know how password-encrypted GDB files are scrambled?
>I've got a huge drive dump here to go through, and if there's some sort
of algorithm I could apply (maybe using the HPCRACK program as a basis)
to unscrambled it ALL,

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:44:26 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:38:40 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

I also cannot DL from SUPER.  Seems to be 2 different problems.  First,
after trying from two different ISPs, it seems that neither can make
the link to www.thaddeus.com   These use different DNS, and both give
no response to the thaddeus.com address

Second, when trying to DL Goin' Postal, there's a failure to connect to
Steve Lawson's site.

Very strange...

Later

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:52:14 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:44:26 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> I also cannot DL from SUPER.

I did a nslookup on thaddeus.com and get no response :(

> Second, when trying to DL Goin' Postal, there's a failure to connect to
> Steve Lawson's site.

Hmm.... that's odd....

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:03:05 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Digital Camera
Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>

- Longden

>I sometimes want at the price I can afford.  I'd love to find an SLR with
hybrid
>film and digital capabilities for say $500 so that I could get film quality
and
>print cost with digital instant gratification and playback (without
duct-taping
>my Konica to my Rebel <g>).

I *knew* duct tape would come to the rescue! ;-)

I remember reading about a *PLANNED* development (no pun intended) where
some company was working on a digital insert for regular cameras(!).  It was
the size of a roll of film w/ the CCD (right acronym?) in a flap that
covered the area where the film would normally be.

I guess it could look like (Beware! Small, bad ASCII art to follow <g>):

O__

and it would allow you to get digital photos w/ normal cameras, while using
all your favorite lenses, filters, etc. from your regular camera.

This was in an old Popular Science Ýlast 2 years I think¨ or maybe "First
Looks" in PC Mag.; but, if I remember correctly, it should have long since
hit the market.  Must've been one of those good-idea prototypes that didn't
make it to the real world.

I remember thinking that, if it had a CF slot, I could use my LX to check
out some of the shots, right away Ýeven email 'em¨.  The resolution was only
going to be 640x480, but that's enough for some applications.

Anyone see this critter hit the market? ... Maybe it's already been a flash
in the pan(?).

--tim


Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:09:46 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Desperate: disk editor
Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>

re:
>of course I've burned myself often enough to know that
>my own relationship with computers and data is roughly akin to...

Mine is something like trying to swim with a cheesecake   ;->

--tim

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:21:47 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: DL from SUPER??
In-Reply-To:  <199906151444.KAA11126@moon.web2000.net> from Peniel Romanelli at
              "Jun 15, 99 10:44:26 am"
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> Second, when trying to DL Goin' Postal, there's a failure to connect to
> Steve Lawson's site.

Be aware that GP has moved off of Earthlink to my home network.  I just
terminated my Earthlink account yesterday.  I'm pretty sure David has
updated the redirection on http://gp.hplx.net/ already.  The actual
address of the site is now http://sdl.continet.com/~support/

Now, if you *were* trying the right address, that's another story..
"yesterday was the worst of times, yesterday was the best of times"...

I've been having random loss of routing since switching to a fulltime
dialup, and yesterday was really bad.  Luckily, my ISP tracked down the
problem.  It required a switch of my IP address, which meant cached
records of my domain name out there in the DNS would return the wrong
address until the change propagated.

On top of that, I added a dynamic account with them and it managed to mess
up the login on my fulltime account instead.  Sometime in the afternoon
the modem got bumped off and upon logging back in was switched to a
dynamic address.  Needless to say, my router did not agree and just
redialed every 30 seconds in a hopeless attempt to get it's static address
back.  I finally noticed this about 6pm.  This networking stuff can be
such a joy.. :-)

So... after a really bad day I think the connection should be much more
stable than it has been the last couple of weeks.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:23:37 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Federico de Argentina
Comments: To: Federico Nachpitz <nachpitzfede@MOVI.COM.AR>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Federico Nachpitz <nachpitzfede@MOVI.COM.AR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 6:44 PM
Subject: Federico de Argentina


> Hablas Espa=F1ol??
>
> Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustar=EDa tener alg=FAn
> interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas f=E1cil comunicar ciertas cosas.
> Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU

Aqui otro mas.  Tratare de responder a tus preguntas, pero te dire que aq=
ui
los expertos son los que hablan ingles, aleman y japones.  Si tienes
dificultad con el ingles, uno de nosotros podria traducir tu pregunta.  L=
a
sugestion de alguien de usar
http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate es excelente, en mi
opinion.

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:40:02 -0400
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Digital Camera
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Avi,

> I am leaning to the Olympus C2000 which is an evolution of the prior =
series...
> They seem to be very nice mahcines... Use now a SmartModular Memory =
card,
> instead of cable - I am sure the speed difference is immense.

One more thing to keep in mind : hardcopy's are "bad" as
compared to standard camera's as there is no good paper to
print on.

Knowledgeable people at HPHAND suggested also to wait a few
months as there are new cameras due to be released with better
lenses and more similarities to standard camera's.

Then there is the file format issue : it was said that only
TIFF is the safest file format as it does not change any file
content. JPEG somewhat "degrades" with every edit&safe action
you do.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:45:58 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Finally, read your XFINDER article for THE HP PALMTOP PAPER before it went
to the printer today. NICE JOB!

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:53:45 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      ÝFLUFF¨ RE: Digital Camera
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil>
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The digital camera back almost predates most of the current digital camera
offerings.  Kodak made a custom digital back for the Nikon F4 almost at the
start of the tide.... I remember cuz it was used where I worked last in an
effort to go "filmless" several years ago.

I don't recall any recent offerings... part of the problem may be the
integration of camera functions with a digital back and the cost (and the
limited market).  Most people just want and need a cheapo digital camera for
grab shots... mostly to email or post on web pages.  Digital backs are probably
popular on high-end film cameras by photographers replacing their polaroid
camera backs.

As for viewing CFs on the LX... even my cheap Konica Q-Mini had a color
viewscreen that was actually easier to view (even at 1"x1.5") than via the LX
screen...plus I could plug the camera into a TV and use the television screen as
a huge monitor for slideshows or preview.  It's a great little camera, if you
like instamatics.

I guess I'm just waiting for the convergence of cost and technology.  Film-wise,
once there were (relatively expensive) SLRs for the serious amateurs and there
were instamatics for the rest... and now you can use a (relatively cheap) modern
SLR with "idiot-proof" settings or switch to get complete focus, aperture and
shutter control.  That's what I'm waiting for digitally in cameras....high
quality, convenience and low cost (for image capture and hardcopy).

- Longden





"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil> on 06/15/99 07:03:05
AM

To:   'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>, Longden
      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  RE: Digital Camera




I remember reading about a *PLANNED* development (no pun intended) where
some company was working on a digital insert for regular cameras(!).  It was
the size of a roll of film w/ the CCD (right acronym?) in a flap that
covered the area where the film would normally be.

I guess it could look like (Beware! Small, bad ASCII art to follow <g>):

O__

and it would allow you to get digital photos w/ normal cameras, while using
all your favorite lenses, filters, etc. from your regular camera.

This was in an old Popular Science Ýlast 2 years I think¨ or maybe "First
Looks" in PC Mag.; but, if I remember correctly, it should have long since
hit the market.  Must've been one of those good-idea prototypes that didn't
make it to the real world.

I remember thinking that, if it had a CF slot, I could use my LX to check
out some of the shots, right away Ýeven email 'em¨.  The resolution was only
going to be 640x480, but that's enough for some applications.

Anyone see this critter hit the market? ... Maybe it's already been a flash
in the pan(?).

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:05:53 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Federico de Argentina
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I was excited about the babelfish thing until I tried it.  Anyone who use=
s
it should forewarn the receiver that it is not very good, but for casual =
use
you *might* make yourself understood.  Just never, ever use casual speech
with this thing. :-)

A babelfish translation of the original message follows (with my markings=
):

"You speak Spanish?
I am a usuary crazy person of the Palmtop 200lx and I would like to have
some
           ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬  (spanglish?)

interlocutor in my language since it is but easy to communicate certain
things. A
¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
hug....si you speak my language CHAU "
          ¬¬
You get the idea.   Just don't try to get a job or a girlfriend with this
thing.   :-)

I don't know what it would do with the technical chatter in this list . .=
 .

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Rae <RickRae@usa.net>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: Federico de Argentina


> No hablo espa=F1ol, sino Babelfish (Altavista):
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? traducido para m=ED. =
Esta
> respuesta fue escrita en ingl=E9s y traducida la misma manera. Babelfis=
h
> incurrir=E1 en equivocaciones pero los resultados son generalmente
> comprensibles.
>
> Quiz=E1s esto ayudar=E1 para ahora?
>
> Buena suerte,
> Rick
>

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:09:24 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Read Tim's note again and realized he was talking about digital film inserts and
NOT digital camera backs... sorry.

You're right tho Tim... I do remember reading about this too in PC Mag.  Problem
may still be integration with the camera.  Most digital CCDs aren't capable of
keeping up with camera speeds (try finding a digital camera that can shoot 5
frames per second with auto-bracketed exposure).

Still, if it were cheap (say $100 or so), I'd give it a shot....tho it's
probably the "flash in the pan" as you mentioned.

- Longden

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil> on 06/15/99 07:03:05
      AM

To:   'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>, Longden
      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  RE: Digital Camera




I remember reading about a *PLANNED* development (no pun intended) where
some company was working on a digital insert for regular cameras(!).  It was
the size of a roll of film w/ the CCD (right acronym?) in a flap that
covered the area where the film would normally be.

I guess it could look like (Beware! Small, bad ASCII art to follow <g>):

O__

and it would allow you to get digital photos w/ normal cameras, while using
all your favorite lenses, filters, etc. from your regular camera.

This was in an old Popular Science Ýlast 2 years I think¨ or maybe "First
Looks" in PC Mag.; but, if I remember correctly, it should have long since
hit the market.  Must've been one of those good-idea prototypes that didn't
make it to the real world.

I remember thinking that, if it had a CF slot, I could use my LX to check
out some of the shots, right away Ýeven email 'em¨.  The resolution was only
going to be 640x480, but that's enough for some applications.

Anyone see this critter hit the market? ... Maybe it's already been a flash
in the pan(?).

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:19:36 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF: babelfish (was Re: Federico de Argentina)
In-Reply-To:  <004901beb748$f8768dc0$65a81ad1@default> from Domingo
              Diaz-Vazquez at "Jun 15, 99 12:05:53 pm"
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> A babelfish translation of the original message follows (with my markings):

Yes, babelfish does appear to have a few translation problems.  I took
Jeff John's posting, translated it using babelfish through three different
languages then back to english.  Here's what it tranalsted back to:

"I am big bad police officer.  I could not catch a turtle.  Computer
engineer saved me."

Gee, talking about translating something totally wrong... uh, it *is*
wrong, isn't it?  Hmmm....  <REALLY BIG GRIN>

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:24:49 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: babelfish (was Re: Federico de Argentina)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Sure would be nice if babelfish did Japanese-to-English!

Steve

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:33:08 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX & PGP....
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> The following few lines are from my config.txt from PGP.... should I tell
> PGP where to create the file named 'scratch'?

You tell PGP what file to create by using the "-o <file name>" option
on the command line, e.g.:

   c:\pgp\PGP.EXE -sta %1 -o c:\www\post2\scratch.

Oh, could it be you forgot the trailing dot? If yes, I think that PGP
does not create a file named "scratch", but a file named "scratch.pgp",
in which case PE of course cannot find a file named "scratch".

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:54:47 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Battery pack for 200
Comments: To: 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Hi friends,

sounds good.

but what when the external battery pack goes empty?

The BIOS services of the LX think that there's an adapter connected, so
there will be no reaction when the voltage drops below - say - 2.2V.
No switching off or going into backup mode.

--> Be careful not to lose your data with an external battery!

Or am I wrong?

GTX
daniel



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Hi friends,

does anyone know if the quartz for the Double Speed upgrade is a
regular quartz that I can get at a 'normal' electronics store?

(Sorry, Hal, but I'm 'only' a poor student. So I haven't got the money to
buy the DS kit from Thaddeus or Rundel)

GTX
daniel

P.S.: maybe it's better (at least for Thaddeus ;-) ) if you reply off
list to my private email!

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Hi my pal Al,

>
> Does anyone know of a cheep digital camera
> good enough for the LX?  No color needed
> and should be able to interchange CFs with
> the LX.  Don't need it for anything else.

I have the Casio QV100, which is color, 640*480 pixels.
It cannot exchange Cfs with the LX, because it has built in flash, but
you can connect it via serial to the LX and exchange the data with
either "QVREMOTE" or "qvCOM" (both in SUPER).

It should be pretty cheap since it is an old model. I payed 400 DM
(abt. 250 US$) for it 10 month ago. Now it should be cheaper.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:10:56 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Family Origns 3.0 for Dos

I remember reading on one of the PAF sites that 3.0 does NOT work on the
palmtop.  I think similar information went around the CompuServe forum as
well.

I don't recall why it doesn't work but I vaguely recall that only a 386
or better can handle it.

2.31, however, works quite well and is a handy tool with the HP200lx at
reunions and libraries.

Larry Zimmerman

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:27:26 -0600 Lisa Cook <lcook@WASATCH.COM> writes:

>I also have a copy of Paf 3.0 that I could use, has anyone tried it?
>

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Subject:      Reformat Utility Sought

I'm looking for a utility that can process the data from a file in a
given format and rearrange and/or reformat the data based on an external
configuration file.

That is as clear as mud right?  What I don't know how to ask for is a
utility that can take a comma-delimited or fixed-length file with fields
ordered f1, f2, f3, f4 and output it to a new comma-delimited or
fixed-length format with a new order of f2, f3, f4, f1 based on an
external configuration file.  The utility needs to be palmtop practical
and (while I'm dreaming) it would be nice to have source available.

I've found a GUI program that does what I need called ASCIIConvert from
http://www.informatik.com but the GUI really gets in the way of what
would be better executed in command-line format.

Alternatively, is there any equivalent of the Perl Cookbook featuring
code snippets for how to do common tasks available for C?

Thanks.  I'm tinkering away but suspect a perfectly round wheel meeting
my needs already exists.

Larry Zimmerman


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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> I remember reading on one of the PAF sites that 3.0 does NOT work on
> the palmtop.  I think similar information went around the CompuServe
> forum as well.
> I don't recall why it doesn't work but I vaguely recall that only a
> 386 or better can handle it.

It's a foul lie.  <g>  PAF 3.0's system requirements claim it needs a 286,
but it runs fine on the 200LX.

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> Isn't that what chkdsk does? Reconstruct the chain

by looking at the FAT (whcih should be intact if you haven't writtento the
disk)? I think a little experimentation on a floppy is in order.


>  I can see lots of my
> data in clusters on the disk, using DiskEdit, but haven't figured out how
> to stitch them together yet.  Some of it is fragmented, but this will only
> be a problem for QDATA.PDT and JOURN.GDB, both around 500K of encrypted
> data-- so I can't tell if they have rogue clusters interspersed.  I
> guess I'll just have to guess.  :(
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Stan Peters wrote:

>  Isn't that what chkdsk does? Reconstruct the chain by looking at the
> FAT (whcih should be intact if you haven't writtento the disk)? I
> think a little experimentation on a floppy is in order.

The FAT has no information that I can see; these files were deleted files.

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Use strtok() to do the bulk of the work, as in:

char cstringÝMAX_FIELDS_ON_LINE¨ÝMAX_LENGTH_OF_FIELD¨;
char line_from_fileÝMAX_LENGTH_OF_LINE¨;

fp= fopen("datafile.dat","r" );
fp2 = fopen("newdata.dat","w");

while( 1 ){
    count = fscanf(fp,"%s",line_from_file);
    if( count != 1 )
        break;
    strcpy( &cstringÝ0¨Ý0¨, strtok( line_from_file, ",\n"));
    for( i = 0; i < fields_on_line; i++ )
       strcpy( &cstringÝi+1¨Ý0¨, strtok( NULL, ",\n" ));
    for( i = 0; i < fields_on_line-1; i++ )
       fprintf("%s,",&cstringÝtable_with_new_orderÝi¨¨Ý0¨);
    fprintf("%s\n",&cstringÝtable_with_new_orderÝfields_on_line-1¨¨Ý0¨);
}
fclose(fp);
fclose(fp2);

fields_on_line and table_with_new_orderÝ¨ can get sucked down from the
command line, or another file.

rick

ps. no warranties express or implied.... :-)

> That is as clear as mud right?  What I don't know how to ask for is a
> utility that can take a comma-delimited or fixed-length file with fields
> ordered f1, f2, f3, f4 and output it to a new comma-delimited or
> fixed-length format with a new order of f2, f3, f4, f1 based on an
> external configuration file.  The utility needs to be palmtop practical
> and (while I'm dreaming) it would be nice to have source available.
>

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Look for CONVR803.ZIP on the Simtel site
(http://www.simtel.net/simcgi-bin/dosfind.cgi?convr803)

Clear as mud you asked for and clear as mud you get.  Not the easiest utility to
use, but completely command line and control file driven, and converts between
"dBase, ASCII-delim, fixed, 1-2-3" format files with field editing and
exclusions.  Runs fine on the LX (131k bytes) and is the best (not easiest)
convertor I've ever used.  Freeware and perfectly round <g>.

- Longden





Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> on 06/15/99 10:07:39 AM

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Subject:  Reformat Utility Sought




I'm looking for a utility that can process the data from a file in a
given format and rearrange and/or reformat the data based on an external
configuration file.

That is as clear as mud right?  What I don't know how to ask for is a
utility that can take a comma-delimited or fixed-length file with fields
ordered f1, f2, f3, f4 and output it to a new comma-delimited or
fixed-length format with a new order of f2, f3, f4, f1 based on an
external configuration file.  The utility needs to be palmtop practical
and (while I'm dreaming) it would be nice to have source available.

I've found a GUI program that does what I need called ASCIIConvert from
http://www.informatik.com but the GUI really gets in the way of what
would be better executed in command-line format.

Alternatively, is there any equivalent of the Perl Cookbook featuring
code snippets for how to do common tasks available for C?

Thanks.  I'm tinkering away but suspect a perfectly round wheel meeting
my needs already exists.

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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:19:36 -0700, Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM=
> wrote:

> "I am big bad police officer.  I could not catch a turtle.  Computer
> engineer saved me."

At least it didn't tell about me bowing my head in shame <g>.

Jeff

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Omnibook-800 specific drivers are available at the HP web site
(http://www.hp.com/cposupport/swindexes/hpomnibook8375_swen.html).
Given these, you should be able to get most CD-ROM drives working off
the 800. The recovery diskette has config.sys and autoexec.bat
annotations for where to put the hooks to a non-HP drive, or you could
InterLink/InterServer the files from another PC. A parallel-port CD-ROM
would be the easiest - no HP-specific drivers needed for bootstrap.
Then you can install any of the acknowledged OSes on there (W3.x, 95,
98, NT3.51, NT4, W2000). Of course, you *could* always do Linux, since
there's no OS there at the moment. So, no you don't need the HP CD-ROM
drive or disc, just the driver files. Admittedly, the CD-ROM disc and,
to a lesser extent, the drive, will make things easier, but there are
lots of ways for the determined user to get around their absence.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

>
> Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:19:57 -0700
> From:    Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
> Subject: Re: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT
>
> I don't know about the PCMCIA path, but you can use the SCSI CD-ROM
> directly.  The ob800 has an on-board SCSI controller.  You can hook
up the
> CD-ROM drive in one of two ways.  First, if you have the port
replicator, you
> can plug it into the SCSI connector in the back.  The second option
is to get
> a special HP cable which, I think, plugs into the port replicator
port.
>
> It's also possible that you could include the PCMCIA DOS driver in
the
> Recovery boot floppy.
>
> Wayne
>
> Frank McConnell wrote:
>
> > Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
> > > The company (Intelisale) seems like a reasonable company, and
> > > based on the number of OB800ct they have (40 listed), I suspect
> > > these were all returned at the end of a corp. rollout... I
suspect they
> > > are fresh off of maint. contract.
> >
> > So I have a couple of stupid, off-topic questions: these come
without
> > software, which I take to mean no Win95 installed.  How much
trouble
> > will re-installing without the CD-ROM drive be?  How about
supposing
> > that I have a PCMCIA SCSI card with MS-DOS drivers and a SCSI
CD-ROM
> > drive?
> >
> > I guess what I'm wondering is, how essential is the special
Omnibook
> > CD-ROM drive for this sort of thing?
> >
> > -Frank McConnell
> >
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:33:08 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

>    c:\pgp\PGP.EXE -sta %1 -o c:\www\post2\scratch.

I think we may be on to something here! I didn't have the dot, which I =
have
added. This is what I think is happening:

It's trying to execute pgp, but there isn't enough memory for pgp to run, =
so
that fails, thereby failing to produce a file named scratch. so when PE
starts again, there isn't a file named scratch. for it to deal with. Now =
all
I have to do is figure out how to setup tremm and maxdos and SC to all =
work
together in harmony <g>.

Jeff

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I talked to a real live person at Intellesale this morning.  The
OB800CT's come with *no* OS.  But for $90, they'll install either Win 95
or Win 98.  You can also extend the warranty for a year for an extra
$80.  I usually avoid extended warranties, but on a reconditioned unit,
I don't know.

Jim Krist, jtkrist@clark.net

Jon Barrett wrote:
>
> Omnibook-800 specific drivers are available at the HP web site
> (http://www.hp.com/cposupport/swindexes/hpomnibook8375_swen.html).
......
> lots of ways for the determined user to get around their absence.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net
>
...
> > Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:19:57 -0700
> > From:    Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
> > Subject: Re: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT
> >
...
 > It's also possible that you could include the PCMCIA DOS driver in
> the
> > Recovery boot floppy.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > Frank McConnell wrote:
> >
> > > Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
> > > > The company (Intelisale) seems like a reasonable company, and
> > > > based on the number of OB800ct they have (40 listed), I suspect
> > > > these were all returned at the end of a corp. rollout... I
> suspect they
...
> > > So I have a couple of stupid, off-topic questions: these come
> without
> > > software, which I take to mean no Win95 installed.  How much
> trouble
...
 > >
> > > -Frank McConnell
> > >
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> It's trying to execute pgp, but there isn't enough memory for pgp to
> run, so that fails, thereby failing to produce a file named scratch.
> so when PE starts again, there isn't a file named scratch. for it to
> deal with. Now all I have to do is figure out how to setup tremm and
> maxdos and SC to all work together in harmony <g>.

Can you set up a plain DOS shell to use MaxDOS out of Post, and then try
to run PGP.EXE from there and see if it runs?  That would tell you if
you're correct or not...

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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ RE: Digital Camera

Longden wrote:
>As for viewing CFs on the LX... even my cheap Konica Q-Mini had a color
>viewscreen that was actually easier to view (even at 1"x1.5") than via the
LX
>screen...plus I could plug the camera into a TV and use the television
screen as
>a huge monitor for slideshows or preview.  It's a great little camera, if
you
>like instamatics.

<sigh> Guess you're right about the preview mode, some even let you whiz
thru the shots with a scroll-wheel. Should I get a digital wonder some day,
I'll poss. use the LX to quickly email shots. 'Course, by the time I get
around to buying a digital camera, we'll prob. be able to rotate a lever and
the satellite uplink will pop out....

>I guess I'm just waiting for the convergence of cost and technology.

Ditto!

--tim

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Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:20:15 -0400 (EDT)

02h25m39s ago ...
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> does anyone know if the quartz for the Double Speed upgrade is a
> regular quartz that I can get at a 'normal' electronics store?

Nope.  The 2X crystal is 31.673550 MHz   Nearest standard that's
readily available is 32.0000 MHz.

Better to put some money aside and have Thaddeus do it...  Or Rundel.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:48:24 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 14 Jun 1999 19:02:51 -0700, sponsor@FTEL.NET (A Meshar) wrote:

> I am leaning to the Olympus C2000 which is an evolution of the prior =
series...
> They seem to be very nice mahcines... Use now a SmartModular Memory =
card,
> instead of cable - I am sure the speed difference is immense.
>
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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I have a Olympus C410L. I do not know what it is called in the US. But
it is a old model which has 30/120 picture internal memory with best
quality 640*480. No memory card..

I am very satisfied with the picturequality. I have looked at pictures
taken with other brands. And I am very impressed with my Olympus. So go
Olympus!

The only bad thing is that new Olympus digcams use Smart Media. They are
expensive compared to compact flash. My next digcam will be a camera
with a compact flash. Hope that Olympus go for compact flash instead of
the smartmedia..(ssdc..?)

BTW I bought a Hplx when I wanted to take more pictures than my max 30.
I transfer pics from my C410L to my Hplx..New camera with exchangebal
memorycards or Hplx...glad I went for the Hplx guys!!
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:55:28 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

> Do you know which program it was that can do this?  I can see lots of my
> data in clusters on the disk, using DiskEdit, but haven't figured out how
> to stitch them together yet.  Some of it is fragmented, but this will only
> be a problem for QDATA.PDT and JOURN.GDB, both around 500K of encrypted
> data-- so I can't tell if they have rogue clusters interspersed.  I
> guess I'll just have to guess.  :(

David,

     It has been a while so take this with a grain of salt.
DISKEDIT can open two windows so you can look at the FAT at
the same time as the data file.  If you find a cluster with
your data in it, you should be able to trace the FAT to get
the file.  I lost a root directory once and Norton UNFORMAT
saved my lunch by finding all the subdirectory structures
and recreating the disk.  If you can make an exact copy, you
could try using it.

Steve

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From:         Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: KEY200 help
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:44:14 -0400, George Coleman wrote:

>> =============== snippet ===================
>> Fn More : More ¬More
>> More : Alt F8 ¬F8 ¬Alt
>> ========================================
>> More, Ctrl-More, Alt-More all work as expected.  However,
>> Fn-More does not call up AppMgr.
>
>Try this:
>
>  ¬Fn More : ¬Fn ¬More More ¬More ! Fn-More = More
>
>I haven't done this with Fn, but the same sort of sequence does
>work with Menu, and they are both "sticky" keys, so I think the
>same principle would apply.  That is, define the key sequence as
>a RELEASE of the Fn key, followed by More, and then you have to
>release both of them in the key definition, then you can "hit"
>and release the real key (More) in that definition.

Thanks, George.  Your reply and an email from Rod Whitby put
me on the right track.  All is now working with KEY200 as I
wanted it to, and I've replaced all of the ExKey functions that I
was using.  I also entered a definition for  double-Menu to call
up TaskBar.

For the benefit of lurkers, here is my KEY200.ini file:

============ KEY200.INI ===================
! Key def'ns for KEY200

PrtSc :                         ! kill PrtSc
Ctrl Esc : Alt F10 ¬F10 ¬Alt    ! TaskList
Alt Space: Alt F2 ¬F2 ¬Alt      ! Zoom
Alt Menu: Alt 123 ¬123 ¬Alt     ! 123g

Fn More : ¬Fn Fn ¬Fn More ¬More ! &...
Alt More : ¬Alt Alt ¬Alt Alt More ¬More ¬Alt ! no change
Ctrl More : ¬Ctrl Ctrl More ¬More ¬Ctrl ! no change
More : Fn More ¬More ¬Fn                ! TBlx
¬Menu Menu : Esc Fn More ¬More ¬Fn      ! dbl-Menu: TBlx

Fn Filer : ¬Fn Fn ¬Fn Filer ¬Filer      ! Filer
Alt Filer : ¬Alt Alt ¬Alt Alt Filer ¬Filer ¬Alt ! no change
Ctrl Filer : ¬Ctrl Ctrl Filer ¬Filer ¬Ctrl      ! no change
Filer : Fn Filer ¬Filer ¬Fn             ! X-Finder

!Cut : Cut ¬Cut Alt . ¬. ¬Alt
!Copy : Copy ¬Copy Alt . ¬. ¬Alt

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:06:54 -0700
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Steve Novosad wrote:

>      It has been a while so take this with a grain of salt. DISKEDIT
> can open two windows so you can look at the FAT at the same time as
> the data file.  If you find a cluster with your data in it, you should
> be able to trace the FAT to get the file.  I lost a root directory
> once and Norton UNFORMAT saved my lunch by finding all the
> subdirectory structures and recreating the disk.  If you can make an
> exact copy, you could try using it.

Good advice... but the FAT doesn't have any mention of the data.  These
files had been deleted before, and only their data remains...

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Subject:      Re: Digital Camera
In-Reply-To:  <01a901beb6e5$080b31f0$0701a8c0@devel3> from "Sean Hoger" at Jun
              15, 99 00:10:41 am
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Sean Hoger said ...
>
> I have an idea.  Since it seems like quite a few people are interested in
> digital cameras, and it would be nice to see the real image quality before
> purchasing one...I will set up a web site devoted to some simple product
> reviews, but more importantly with sample pictures from different cameras.

You all might want to check out http://www.steves-digicams.com
This site has a ton of good digital camera related stuff (reviews, etc).

> If anyone would like to send me some sample pictures, I'll put them up for
> all to see.
>
> I know that my experience with digital is that they don't compare to my
> SLR's with a good scanner without spending an arm and a leg.  This might be
> a good way to show off how some of these digital cameras work in the real
> world, and a good way to compare them.
>
> Sean
>
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: GDB encryption
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David Sargeant wrote:

>Does anybody know how password-encrypted GDB files are scrambled?  I've
>got a huge drive dump here to go through, and if there's some sort of
>algorithm I could apply (maybe using the HPCRACK program as a basis) to
>unscrambled it ALL, then I could see which sectors are parts of the
>database and which aren't.  I also need to do the same thing with my
>Pocket Quicken file, but I suspect that one won't work out so well.

The databases store their info in a pattern of records. If they're
encrypted then the contents of each record is scrambled, but the
record headers remain intact. You can get the docs from SUPER, but
generally each record starts with the following header bytes:

1. One byte for the record type, will always be from zero to 31
(0x1f).

2. One byte for the record status, usually having the value 2.

3. Two bytes of the record length, LSB first.

4. Two bytes of the record's index number.

So if you scan the disk looking for a number in the range 00..1f, then
see if the next byte is 02, you'll likely have the beginning of a
record. But it sounds like a very tough job.

-Curtis Cameron

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:15:38 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<does anyone know if the quartz for the Double Speed upgrade is a
regular quartz that I can get at a 'normal' electronics store?

(Sorry, Hal, but I'm 'only' a poor student. So I haven't got the money to
buy the DS kit from Thaddeus or Rundel)>>

Don't think you can find an off the shelf chip.  Even if you could, Mack's
proprietary double speed driver has gone through several years of refining.
Sorry.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:18:28 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Subject:      Re: DL from SUPER??
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I've forwarded this note to Tom Gibson, our webmaster who is in charge of
the FTP stuff on www.thaddeus.com that we accepted when Mitch ran out of
room.

<<Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:38:40 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

I also cannot DL from SUPER.  Seems to be 2 different problems.  First,
after trying from two different ISPs, it seems that neither can make
the link to www.thaddeus.com   These use different DNS, and both give
no response to the thaddeus.com address>>

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:27:14 -0700
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Curtis Cameron wrote:

> The databases store their info in a pattern of records. If they're
> encrypted then the contents of each record is scrambled, but the
> record headers remain intact. You can get the docs from SUPER, but
> generally each record starts with the following header bytes:
> So if you scan the disk looking for a number in the range 00..1f, then
> see if the next byte is 02, you'll likely have the beginning of a
> record. But it sounds like a very tough job.

Okay.  I have a vague idea of where on the disk the database is, from
searching for the first few letters of a database file.  So if I block off
a 500K section, save it to a file, and then scan through it, maybe I can
recover some of my records.  (I only need about 60 of them from the tail
end of the file.)  Is there any way to decrypt the contents of the "raw"
dump of records, seeing as how I know the database structure (and have an
older version) and know the password and all?

Thanks for any info...

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:53:26 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I've forwarded this note to Tom Gibson, our webmaster who is in charge of
the FTP stuff on www.thaddeus.com that we accepted when Mitch ran out of
room.>>

Tom just replied to me:

**I just tried and had no problems at all.  I would look at the times that
they post or try to download.  If it is all in the span of an hour or two,
then the server was probably down, nothing we can do about that.**


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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:53:26 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.=
COM> wrote:

> If anyone still is having problems, you can mail the list and copy
> tom@thaddeus.com

I observed the phenomenom from late last night until this morning..... it
was quite strange <g>.

Jeff

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:10:22 -0400 (EDT)

16m55s ago ...
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> <<I've forwarded this note to Tom Gibson, our webmaster who is in =
charge of
> the FTP stuff on www.thaddeus.com that we accepted when Mitch ran out =
of
> room.>>
>
> Tom just replied to me:
>
> **I just tried and had no problems at all.

Stopped by SUPER before this mail run.  Works fine now!  8-)

Problem seems to have been with DNS lookup (on 2 different DNS) -
weird.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:29:49 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Anyone got the Lotus Agenda manuals or a book on LA for sale?

Ideally from U.K seller, but otherwise from anyone.

Please e me privately (unless someone has a source for these that would
benefit the whole list)

Thanks
Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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For anybody looking fo an Omnibook the following was just posted to the
Omnibook Mail List.

Good Luck,


>>>
From:  Brian Hudson <brian.hudson@gtri.gatech.edu>  06/15/99 12:25 pm
To:    Multiple recipients of list <omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org>

Omnilisters,
I am a long-term omnilist subscriber who collects HP Portable computers,
including Omnibook "Century Series" subnotebooks.  I have accumulated a few
extra Omnibooks that I have for sale.  I normally would not use the list
for advertising, but the heavy recent traffic of omnilisters looking for
computers has prompted this message.  Buyer pays shipping to USA locations
only.

HP800CT Omnibook Sub-Notebook   $595  (Have 2 FS)
Intel Pentium 166MMX, 16 MB RAM, 2.0 GB HD, external original floppy drive,
pop-out mouse, 10.4 in active matrix TFT SVGA display (800x600x65K colors),
SVGA output, built-in PCI SCSI-2 controller, 16-Bit Sound,
good lithium battery, a-c adapter, black nylon carrying case.

HP800CT Omnibook Sub-Notebook   $495  (Have 2 FS)
Intel Pentium 133, 16 MB RAM, 1.4 GB HD, external original floppy drive,
pop-out mouse, 10.4 in active matrix TFT SVGA display (800x600x256 colors),
SVGA output, built-in PCI SCSI-2 controller, 16-Bit Sound,
lithium battery, a-c adapter, fitted shoulder bag.

HP600C Omnibook Sub-Notebook   $295  (Have 2 FS)
Intel 486DX2-50, 12 MB RAM, 260 MB PCMCIA HD, external Dell floppy drive,
pop-out mouse, 8.5 in dual-scan VGA display (640x480x65K colors),
SVGA output, new NiMh battery, a-c adapter, case.

Available Accessories:
For OB800CT:
SCSI Cable, 16 MB Expansion RAM, Docking Station
For OB600C:
External 2X or 4X Panasonic CD-ROM drive w. PCMCIA SCSI adapter.
Enhanced Port Replicator.

----------------
Brian H. Hudson, Senior Research Technologist
Georgia Tech Research Institute
Atlanta, GA 30332   (770)528-7740, -7883 fax

>>>



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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:56:26 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Family Origns 3.0 for Dos

Great!  I wanted to upgrade but didn't see the point since I only run it
on the lx.

Larry Zimmerman

On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:17:22 -0700 David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
writes:

>It's a foul lie.  <g>  PAF 3.0's system requirements claim it needs a
>286,
>but it runs fine on the 200LX.

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              Don Evans <donaldevans@PTLOMA.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Small post-crash mystery Ýtopcard¨
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Tim,
     Try rebooting the machine (Ctrl-Alt-Del). See if that doesn't restore
your full topcard screen... It worked for me.
     Regards,
        Don.



At 06:46 PM 6/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Slowly recovering from a crash Ý I *thought* I had a good back-up *NOT* ...
>luckily I can recreate most, or won't miss it ¨.
>
>Here's an odd little mystery, and I'm sure simple one:
>
>My name no longer shows through the generic topcard's "cut out" window.  I
>haven't used the palmtop's built-in topcard for a LONG time. When I first
>recovered the palmtop (today), it showed through; when I restored my C:_DAT
>contents from my flashcard, the text went away.
>
>The "Owner" data is still in setup and the show picture box is checked ... I
>copied the generic 200LX topcard.pcx out of the ROM ... (for the time being)
>and it was fine 'til I restored my C:_dat stuff.  Is there a "switch" in
>filer.ini or maybe the fact that I haven't redone my alarm sound, yet
>something still points to a non-existent .snd file, tick some part of the
>computer off here <I'm stretching on the sound thing, but that's to emph.
>that there are some things that the computer may be expecting that just
>aren't there right now....>
>
>TIA,
>
>--tim
>
>Tim Raymond
>III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
>W: 254-287-7608
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:09:53 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I have a concern here too. I have been using IBM.net for access when I
> travel. I am wondering if the same will happen to them as soon as AT&T
> takes over.

AT&T has already taken over IBM.net (which I use).
I'm waiting for any announcements concerning changes, haven't seen
any yet...

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:09:56 GMT
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aguze118 wrote in message ...
>I use Word Perfect and Software Carousel but sometimes the WP commands involve
>using shift and F keys. How does one avoid a conflict with Carousel?

I use the Left Shift for SC and the Right Shift for other
programs that also use shifted F keys (like WWWLX).

Russ

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:00:13 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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It looks like a great web site with tons of information on digital cameras
however, what I was going for was more of a list of specs and reviews of
cameras that people on this list (be the reviews HPLX related or not) use
for various things.  Just a place to share our opinions of what is out
there, including older models that might be found on an auction site.

I have the web site started at http://www.pcdevel.com/digitalcameras and it
has 1 camera on it.  Hopefully there will be more to follow ;)

Sean

>You all might want to check out http://www.steves-digicams.com
>This site has a ton of good digital camera related stuff (reviews, etc).

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:04:39 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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>Submissions should include camera, model, cost,
>and at least significant specs.


In addition to the above, a sample picture, a short (or long if you like)
review of the camera, and how you use it would be great.

If anyone is interested, please send the info to me at shoger@pcdevel.com

Thanks

Sean

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:57:08 EDT
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In a message dated 6/15/1999 01:15:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
zimm4@JUNO.COM writes:

> What I don't know how to ask for is a
>  utility that can take a comma-delimited or fixed-length file with fields
>  ordered f1, f2, f3, f4 and output it to a new comma-delimited or
>  fixed-length format with a new order of f2, f3, f4, f1 based on an
>  external configuration file.

Its easy enough to do in Lotus 1-2-3, if you don't mind either reordering
manually or fixing up a macro to do it.  There is an add in for lotus to easy
the CSV interface.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:14:46 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Hi all,

thanks to Andreas for his advice on the Menu button for PE on
the Desktop. ALT M works for my keyboard.

Inevitably, there are more questions:

1) Why does the numeric keypad not work, even with the number
block light ON ?

2) How do I select a letter, word or paragraph, SHIFT with
the normal arrow keys does not work ? Oddly enough, when I
type 1 and 9 on the numeric pad, a whole block is highlighted,
when I press 8 or 2, lines are highlighted without using
SHIFT. When I press 5 on the numeric pad, text is erased. All
very confusing.

3) How can I get a bigger number of lines onto the screen.
With the smallest letter size, via ALT M, View, Character
Size, the maximum number of lines is 19. That is worse than
the palmtop !

Grateful for your advice
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:22:24 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Ýoff topic¨ WTB: OB800CT
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I can't say for sure but I think most of these refurbished omnibooks
have been used by HP field personnel and while not abused would be
heavily used...

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:45:06 -0400
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From:         Hero of the Man-Kzin Wars <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, you wrote:
> Sure would be nice if babelfish did Japanese-to-English!
>
> Steve
>
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The problem with that, interestingly enough, has nothing at all to do with the
complexity of japanese as a language, but rather with the complex issues
dealing with character encoding.  As the character-sets used in displaying
Chinese, Japanese, and Korean settle down into standards (currently the most
used for Chinese seems to be something called Big5), I'm sure translation
engines like babelfish will crop up.  there are similar efforts that translate
from English into Big5 encoded Chinese, but only do single words and small
phrases rather than complex information.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:54:07 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

Hi Pete,

>I understand how that can all be done but I don't understand one
>thing, what is LBL?

  Check out the following URL and the other referenced URLs for a ton of
info on the $75 LBL network software. I think that the more you read
about it, the more you'll be intrigued. :-)

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes

  Read all there is to read about it there and then please let me know
what you think of it, OK? If you like what you see, let me know and I'll
give you a couple of minor quirks that I've noticed in using the
software. I've used LBL to network my home office for about 2 years now
and love it. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, I have no connection to Imodes except that I'm a satisfied customer.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:25:54 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine

> Hi Pete,
>
> >I understand how that can all be done but I don't understand one
> >thing, what is LBL?
>
>   Check out the following URL and the other referenced URLs for a ton of
> info on the $75 LBL network software. I think that the more you read
> about it, the more you'll be intrigued. :-)
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes
>
>   Read all there is to read about it there and then please let me know
> what you think of it, OK? If you like what you see, let me know and I'll
> give you a couple of minor quirks that I've noticed in using the
> software. I've used LBL to network my home office for about 2 years now
> and love it. :-)
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> BTW, I have no connection to Imodes except that I'm a satisfied customer.
>

Ok, I have seen little big lan for some time, I just didn't think of
it when you said LBL. For what I do I don't really have any use for
it but I do remember looking at it a few years ago and thinking it
looked very interesting. I keep thinking they had a subset of LBL
that just did serial or something that was freeware or shareware but
it has been a while sinc eI looked at it.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:30:50 -0400
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Jeff,
In the PGP config.txt it has the line:

#TMP is the directory name for PGP scratch files, usually a
# RAM disk
# TMP =3D "e:\"
# Can be overridden by environment variable TMP

I don't have any entry in mine... However, I'm not trying
to use it with WWW/LX Plus. Do you specify anything here??
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:44:11 -0400
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              David Kramer <david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET>
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a utility that can process the data from a file in a
> given format and rearrange and/or reformat the data based on an external
> configuration file.
>
> Alternatively, is there any equivalent of the Perl Cookbook featuring
> code snippets for how to do common tasks available for C?

I love Perl and have used it for years, but it's a little slow on the
palmtop.  I would recommend using awk, as a one-line script can do what
you want.

Lets say your comma-delimited file looks like:
Abraham,Lincolm,President
Albert,Einsten,Scientist
Mel,Gibson,Actor
Bill,Gates,Demon
Dennis,Leary,Comedian

And you want to sort by "title" (third column).

awk -F , '{print $3 "," $1 "," $2}' data.in
will output:
President,Abraham,Lincolm
Scientist,Albert,Einsten
Actor,Mel,Gibson
Demon,Bill,Gates
Comedian,Dennis,Leary

That's all folks.  And awk works quick on the palmtop.  Feel free to ask
for more details on awk.

> Thanks.  I'm tinkering away but suspect a perfectly round wheel meeting
> my needs already exists.

A wise decision.  There are lots of wheels out there begging for reuse.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:49:33 +0000
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Jeff,

Thanks for moving the Tag line.  Reads great at 64 columns now.  =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:49:49 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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I am also an IBM.net subscriber. Apparently AT&T has decided how it is
going to deal with IBM.net and has informed some of the corporate troos
and although nothing has been made public yet an announcement is
supposedly imminent.

GaryS

> AT&T has already taken over IBM.net (which I use).
> I'm waiting for any announcements concerning changes, haven't seen
> any yet...

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:37:10 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Helmuth,

> Thank you very much, especially for having the file perfectly
> documented to my needs. I owe you a beer, looking forward to drink it
> with you.

Heheh! Glad it was useful. Took me a lot of time to figure out what this thing
did and how. Then I commbined it into one batch file, then modified some to
fit my need of date (yymmdd) so I can sort it. I figured I might as well
document what it did in case I had to come back :-) ...

Re beer, you are on. How about in Vienna? And I'll document this with my new
digital camera! :-) ...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:09:33 +0200
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I would go for Perl. Perl 4 runs nicely on the Palmtop, under maxdos.

David Kramer wrote:
>
> Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a utility that can process the data from a file in a
> > given format and rearrange and/or reformat the data based on an external
> > configuration file.
> >
> > Alternatively, is there any equivalent of the Perl Cookbook featuring
> > code snippets for how to do common tasks available for C?
>
> I love Perl and have used it for years, but it's a little slow on the
> palmtop.  I would recommend using awk, as a one-line script can do what
> you want.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:29:19 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> 1) Why does the numeric keypad not work, even with the number
> block light ON ?

No idea. PE just takes what the BIOS sends to it. Maybe the manual for
your computer can help?

> 2) How do I select a letter, word or paragraph, SHIFT with
> the normal arrow keys does not work ?

Most desktop keyboards do not create any special codes for shifted
arrow keys, so applications cannot detect it. What should work on all
keyboards is starting a selection with ESC SPACE.

> 3) How can I get a bigger number of lines onto the screen.

You can reduce the space between the lines (leading) in the View menu.
But much more you can get by using Palrun with the -v option, which
runs the whole thing in VGA resolution.

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:04:25 -0700
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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Terry Owen <owen6511@earthlink.net> wrote:
> What I'd really like to know is if the screen is full size or is it
> tiny like the Omnigo - which I didn't care for.  I realize that the
> memory is only 512k, but that should be enough to run a small DOS text
> editor.

I think the screen is the same physical size as on the 100/200LX --
it's at least similarly-sized -- but it does not have the same
resolution, so can only do 40x16 characters for text (I can't remember
the graphics resolution).

The 95LX's built-in apps are fewer and less complex.  For example,
there's no database app, no note-taker app, and the phone book app has
only fields for name, phone number, and a note-like field for address
information.  But...they run the screen in text mode vs. graphics mode
on the 100/200LX, so they appear to be more responsive than the
built-in apps on the 100/200LX.  You may find yourself thinking
somewhat more seriously about those speed upgrades for your 100LX if
you let yourself play with the 95LX for too long.

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I would be very grateful if you kindly delete me e-mail number from your
List as I find it very difficult to cope with the large number of e-mails
that come in every day approx 80 to 70  per day . Also , I do not normally
open my e-mails every day . You ca imagine how much backlog I have to read
and clear . Now I have to open every day and clear my e-mails and I have yet
to read all of them which I saved in my hard disk . very soon me hard disk
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:50:10 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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First of all, let me thank everyone who has offered assistance and/or =
kind
words with setting up PGP with POST/LX. This has been a real learning
experience for me. I think that I am now a expanded memory, Software
Carousel and MaxDOS expert now. David Sareant took some time out of his =
data
recovery efforts to offer some suggestions as did Mack, Andreas, Bill
Childers and countless others. I really figured that I would end up at
Mack's house, knocking on his front with my head hunf low and mumbling =
"Help
me, Master" <g> but David had me try a couple of things and, by golly, it
now works. Setting all of these things up to work together was not a task
for the 'faint of heart', but now that I look at the way I have it setup, =
it
makes perfect sense. I guess that's the whole point, to learn from the
knowledge base of others and that's what is cool about this list. Along =
with
getting this setup Mack has shown me what I have been missing by not =
using
tremm. It's amazing how quick PKZIP/PKUNZIP works when it can use expanded
memory.... I had no idea how slick it really was. Anyways, thanks to =
everyone
for their help.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:33:43 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Brian,

> For those of you having difficulty getting WWW/LX to work with Worldnet,
> if you have a copy of their previous release, it should still work. That is
> what I found.

That is also what you sent to me in email, thank you for the good tip. It
seems that this is possible because of the way AT&T and WWW.EXE interpret and
respond to the RFC concerning login. Between the two, it turns out the older
version seems to get by AT&T's newest "improvement". We now have a newer
version of WWW.EXE being tested in beta which seems to work so far.

What puzzles me about AT&T is this: They have something that works. So to make
sure they piss off their customers they muck with it :-( ... Weird... Oh
well...

I don't have the date of release of the fix at this moment.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:47:31 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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From:         Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluffy wish machine
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I have used their serial $25 network (discontinued). Is a slick deal and a
cheap way to have a network. I suspect that their $75 loads up a real mode TSR
to fool your machine that another computer is a disk drive -- which is a basic
network without a lot of bells and whistles. Files should be fairly small.

When my budget allows an extra $75, I'm getting one. I think they would be
much like a Swiss Army knife for diddling around. Should be a slick way of
getting the LX on a network -- even W95! (please, no flack -- there are
probably a couple of others that use W9x)

John J Vanderstel wrote:

> Hi Pete,
>
> >I understand how that can all be done but I don't understand one
> >thing, what is LBL?
>
>   Check out the following URL and the other referenced URLs for a ton of
> info on the $75 LBL network software. I think that the more you read
> about it, the more you'll be intrigued. :-)
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes
>
>   Read all there is to read about it there and then please let me know
> what you think of it, OK? If you like what you see, let me know and I'll
> give you a couple of minor quirks that I've noticed in using the
> software. I've used LBL to network my home office for about 2 years now
> and love it. :-)
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> BTW, I have no connection to Imodes except that I'm a satisfied customer.
>
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:47:18 +1000
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Hello all

Dont know if this helps anyone, but here goes...

At work we had an attack of the Melissa Virus.  The admin guys then
added 50 bogus email address to the front of the Outlook. address book.
 apparently, it only sends itself to the first 50 addresses in your
address book.

The other possibility is to buy Post LX or GP, and you won't have to
worry about these new email viruses :-)


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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:06:41 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
Outlook's Contacts.

This version can convert extended characters correctly in both
directions. Also more extended characters are converted.

If you find problems or have suggestions, please let me know.

thanks,

Curtis Cameron

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:15:23 +0000
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ? For PIM/Proj Mgr Gurus
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I have and use Grandview 2.0.  I can't see any problem with the calendar view - Years are
displayed as 4 digits anyway and Feb 2000 is shown to have 29 days.  What could cause any
problem?

> Obviously, you are implying Grandview is not Y2K compliant.  Do you know if
> the problem is serious?  Can you describe the issues and workarounds?
>
> ============================
> At 01:23 AM 6/4/99 EDT, Feinmanr@AOL.COM wrote:
> >
> >You could do something similar with Grandview --- up until the end of this
> >year, that is.
> >
>
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:06:30 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ RE: Digital Camera

Hi Tim,

  I remember reading about the digital insert for a regular 35 mm camera
too. What I seem to remember about it though was that the expected cost
was just as high (if not higher) as a whole comparable digital camera of
that day.

  I was intrigued about that when I read about that, too. I hope others
have more info about it.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:53:02 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:30:50 -0400, Suresh Nirody <snirody@CSI.COM> =
wrote:

> #TMP is the directory name for PGP scratch files, usually a
> # RAM disk
> # TMP =3D "e:\"
> # Can be overridden by environment variable TMP
>
> I don't have any entry in mine... However, I'm not trying
> to use it with WWW/LX Plus. Do you specify anything here??

I still have that commented out in my config.txt file..... but of course,
mine isn't working with POST/LX. Andreas, do we need to change this? The
instructions didn't mention changing it.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:49:46 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and Worldnet woes -
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Brian,

=BBcopy of their previous release, it should still work.=AB

Which release?  Version#?  Where are you located?  Anybody want to try my =
local # and see if they can connect OK.  804-771-5440.    =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:31:10 -0700
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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From:         Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Federico de Argentina
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I agree.  I'm crazy about a Mexican singer named Julieta Venegas.  Everyt=
hing on
the web concerning her is in Spanish.  When I run the URLs through babelf=
ish, I
can only make sense of about half of the translations.  Sigh...

Wayne

Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> I was excited about the babelfish thing until I tried it.  Anyone who u=
ses
> it should forewarn the receiver that it is not very good, but for casua=
l use
> you *might* make yourself understood.  Just never, ever use casual spee=
ch
> with this thing. :-)
>
> A babelfish translation of the original message follows (with my markin=
gs):
>
> "You speak Spanish?
> I am a usuary crazy person of the Palmtop 200lx and I would like to hav=
e
> some
>            ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬  (spanglish?)
>
> interlocutor in my language since it is but easy to communicate certain
> things. A
> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
> hug....si you speak my language CHAU "
>           ¬¬
> You get the idea.   Just don't try to get a job or a girlfriend with th=
is
> thing.   :-)
>
> I don't know what it would do with the technical chatter in this list .=
 . .
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Rae <RickRae@usa.net>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Federico de Argentina
>
> > No hablo espa=F1ol, sino Babelfish (Altavista):
> > http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? traducido para m=ED=
. Esta
> > respuesta fue escrita en ingl=E9s y traducida la misma manera. Babelf=
ish
> > incurrir=E1 en equivocaciones pero los resultados son generalmente
> > comprensibles.
> >
> > Quiz=E1s esto ayudar=E1 para ahora?
> >
> > Buena suerte,
> > Rick
> >
>
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:36:52 -0700
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: babelfish (was Re: Federico de Argentina)
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I spent six months in Japan and attempted to learn a little of the
language.  The structure is so different from English that I expect
autotranslation would be next to useless.  Here, from memory, are a
couple of word-for-word phrase translations.

English: Can I have a glass of water?
Japanese to English (word-for-word): Water one glass wish to recieve is.

English: Is it OK if I smoke?
Japanese to English (word-for-word): Smoking even good is it?

You get the idea...

Wayne

Steve Dowell wrote:

> Sure would be nice if babelfish did Japanese-to-English!
>
> Steve
>
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ RE: Digital Camera
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>   I remember reading about the digital insert for a regular 35 mm camera
> too. What I seem to remember about it though was that the expected cost
> was just as high (if not higher) as a whole comparable digital camera of
> that day.
>
>   I was intrigued about that when I read about that, too. I hope others
> have more info about it.


The URL for the site is:

http://www.imagek.com/index.shtml

They are now talking about a summer 1999 release

Sound's interesting to me!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Date:         Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:39:27 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Battery pack for 200

Daniel Hertrich writes:
> Hi friends,
>
> sounds good.
>
> but what when the external battery pack goes empty?
>
> The BIOS services of the LX think that there's an adapter connected, so
> there will be no reaction when the voltage drops below - say - 2.2V.
> No switching off or going into backup mode.
>
> --> Be careful not to lose your data with an external battery!
>
> Or am I wrong?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Germany
> email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:35:39 +0200
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in LHAPI, there are functions to show a hourglass when the user has to wait,
e.g. when loading or searching a file.
these hourglass functions are not part of NKIT, which i am using.
does anybody know how to call these functions, an interrupt number or class
number, maybe?

any help appreciated

alan

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:40:28 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Telnet/lx version 1.2 is now available for download at ftp.dasoft.com
as telnet.zip in directory /pub/WWW.

This version optimizes the display. Istead of the DOS routines for text
output, it uses direct video memory access, which makes it a lot faster
and allows support for some screen attributes in VT100 emulation modes.
The VT100 emulation also is more complete now.

Andreas

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From:         Terry Owen <owen6511@EARTHLINK.NET>
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This what I was curious about.  Thanks.  We still haven't decided
what to get yet but...

A funny thing about looking in to the 95lx is that I downloaded a
couple of little apps from SUPER and ran them on my 100.  I actually
love the 95more and read apps - they work great in zoom mode.

Terry

On 15 Jun 99 Frank McConnell wrote in answer to my question about
the 95lx:

> I think the screen is the same physical size as on the 100/200LX --
> it's at least similarly-sized -- but it does not have the same
> resolution, so can only do 40x16 characters for text (I can't
> remember the graphics resolution).
>
>

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Russel,

More bad news.  The ATT 800# kicked me off last night, but Hawaii still =
works. |-)    =3DBob=3D

> AT&T has already taken over IBM.net (which I use).<

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: DL from SUPER??
In-Reply-To:  <199906152115.RAA18646@moon.web2000.net>; from Peniel Romanelli
              on Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 05:15:02PM -0400
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> Problem seems to have been with DNS lookup (on 2 different DNS) -
> weird.

For anyone that has DNS problems with the thaddeus.com server in the future,
you can always use the IP address to bypass that connection step:

206.26.91.173
--
Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:31:51 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi there,

I don't have double speed, but from time to time I am wondering
whether I should get it installed. Now I hear eventually that
some software does not work with double speed.

Did ever someone put together a list of software which does not
work?

Are there some "famous", commenly used programs which do not
work with ds? Or does everthing run somehow if it is just
configured properly?

What causes the problems that some programs do not run?

Tia
Reinhard



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Subject:      Re: Federico de Argentina
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On 6/15/99 at 12:05 PM Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

>I was excited about the babelfish thing until I tried it.  Anyone who uses
>it should forewarn the receiver that it is not very good, but for casual
use
>you *might* make yourself understood.  Just never, ever use casual speech
>with this thing. :-)

Definitely, Babelfish (and most automated translators) trip over idioms and
slang.  If you read Spanish or translated my response, you'll note I did
*not* offer this as a "solution"... I said maybe he could get by on it
until he found a friend to translate.  After all, it may be a bit of effort
and/or difficult to understand, but do you want to exclude someone from the
list when there *might* be a way to get information across?  I sure don't.
I figured it was worth a shot.

As to warning the recipient... well, I did say I don't speak Spanish and
that I was using Babelfish.  Since he read the result, I'm sure he got the
idea.  <Laughing>

>A babelfish translation of the original message follows (with my
markings):

I don't read Spanish, but the translation was clear enough: He's crazy
about the 200LX, and is looking for someone who can translate for him
because it's tough getting some things across.  If one can figure out what
the writer meant, then in this case the translator program has done its job
well enough, IMHO.

>You get the idea.

I notice you didn't translate my message back to him, which comes out:

===

I do not speak Spanish, but Babelfish (Altavista):
http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? translated for me. This
answer was written in English and translated the same way. Babelfish it
will incur mistakes but the results are generally comprehensible.  Perhaps
this will help for now?

Good luck,
Rick

===

With the exception of the extraneous "it," I'd say that's a pretty darned
good translation.  The trick I use when I'm forced to rely on Babelfish is
to translate what I want to say, then translate it *back* to English.  That
will show you any rough spots, and you can then change your wording to
clean it up.  (For Spanish output, it seems the main thing is to avoid
pronouns (personal or otherwise), because of the Spanish
masculine/feminine/other categorizations.)  The result is probably far from
perfect, but it should be more understandable in the target language than
the unedited original translation.

>Just don't try to get a job or a girlfriend with this thing.   :-)

Job, maybe.  I dunno about getting a girlfriend... she might take pity on
you or think the way you talk is "cute."  <Laughing>

>I don't know what it would do with the technical chatter in this list . .
.

Nor do I.  I rather expect it would leave untranslated any technical terms
it didn't understand.  But perhaps we could figure it out from context.

As I said, I didn't offer it as a solution, but as a "maybe this will help
until..."  Any port in a storm, as it were.

If you have a reason to be excited about the concept behind Babelfish,
maybe you'll want to try some of the other online translators and
dictionaries:

http://rivendel.com/~ric/resources/dictionary.html#freetrans
http://www.systransoft.com/
http://rivendel.com/~ric/resources/dictionary.html
http://www.samson.spb.su/~tea/dict.html

I doubt any of them will be better, just different.  But it might be worth
a look-see.

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>Knowledgeable people at HPHAND suggested also to wait a few
>months as there are new cameras due to be released with better
>lenses and more similarities to standard camera's.

Absolutely, and that statement will probably be true for a long time to
come.  Just like computers, you will continue to get more and more for the
same amount of money.  At some point one decides that the price/features
balance is right for them, and they go for it.  But unless there's an
immediate need, waiting "a little while longer" will probably never hurt!

>Then there is the file format issue : it was said that only
>TIFF is the safest file format as it does not change any file
>content. JPEG somewhat "degrades" with every edit&safe action
>you do.

Just for the record, there are two aspects to this question.  One is any
compression used with the file format, the other is the inherent resolving
capacity of the file format itself.  For example, JPEG uses "lossy"
compression to crunch down an image, which is the problem to which you're
referring.  On the other hand, GIF (which no one in their right mind would
use for photos, this is just an example) uses LZW compression, which is
"lossless"... BUT, GIF only supports up to a 256 color palette.  So, with
JPEG you get an image that can be pretty astoundingly great (if you create
the file with zero or minimal compression), but if you're using non-zero
compression, every time you re-save the image it has the potential for
getting a little bit worse.  With GIF, when you first save the image it
gets crammed into a limited palette, so there may be some degree of instant
degradation... but whatever you see is what you continue to get, no matter
how many times you re-save it after that point.

TIFF supports a virtually unlimited palette, and you can turn compression
*off*, so it's the best of both of those worlds.  Other file formats like
PSD and BMP are also lossless, but expect a *huge* file in any case where
you're preserving all the original data.

You might find the Graphics File Format FAQ at
http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-faq/graphics-fileformats-faq-part1.html
to be of interest.  It's full of interesting tidbits and useless trivia.
Also helpful for a quick overview is Alphabet Soup - Making Sense of
Graphics File Formats by Fayeq Oweis at
http://www.visualimaging.com/alphabet.html

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On 6/15/99 at 11:40 AM Hans Peter Staber wrote, in heavily edited part:

>One more thing to keep in mind : hardcopy's are "bad" as
>compared to standard camera's as there is no good paper to
>print on.

That rather depends on what you mean by "bad" and how you compare the
printed results.  Both printers and papers have come a long way in recent
years. Something as inexpensive as an Epson Stylus Color Photo (*not* the
standard Epson Stylus Color) printing at maximum resolution to Hammermill
Jetprint Ultra Gloss or any of the other quality photo-print papers can
provide a result virtually indistinguishable from a color print... and if
that's not good enough you can go to dye sublimation printers with heavy
gloss stock.

As an experiment, I've previously taken the camera out of the loop by
scanning an existing glossy photo at high resolution and printing a copy
using the aforementioned Epson/Hammermill combination.  As long as I don't
let anyone touch the results (the photo inkjet paper cited above is
slightly thinner than print paper (others aren't)) most people couldn't
tell which was which... in fact only one person was able to identify the
copy, and that was because he had the smarts to lean over and catch the
ceiling light bouncing off the surface of the ink.  Even when I let folks
touch-n-feel, it's about 50/50 that they can tell.

Unless they flip the thing over and see the "Printed on Kodak paper" on the
print.  8¬)  And I believe you can get Kodak photo inkjet paper which might
eliminate that problem.

In my experience, the limiting factor has not been the paper (or printer)
but the camera... and that is rapidly changing.  When I bought my Olympus
D400L several years ago, it was far-and-away the best combination of
features and price for my application, offering a resolution of 1024x768.
But at that resolution you'll be hard-pressed to get much above a 3x5
without digital artifacts being visible.  It's purely a snapshot camera
when it comes to prints.  These days, though, you can buy "megapixel"
cameras for about the same price.

I have had problems in the past with running over the list maximum message
length, so I'll continue this in another post.

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Hi Hal,

> Don't think you can find an off the shelf chip.  Even if you could, Mack's
> proprietary double speed driver has gone through several years of refining.
> Sorry.

Okay, I didn't remember there was the driver... sorry. It's of course
included in the price.

But let me ask one more question: What would happen if one put a 32MHz
quartz into the LX instead the 31.xxxx (?) MHz? Would the screen,
serial port, IR port and  so on work or not?

(I'm only interested - I won't try it, because (1) I don't have the
driver and (2) I don't want to damage my palmtop!)

BTW: Why did HP not use the 31.xxxx MHZ quartz but the slow 16 MHz?
If the 31 MHz works without problems... ?

GTX
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Thaddeus is shipping out a DS unit to me today, so I'm also interested
in this question. I wasn't aware that DS would cause software problems.
: (

Steve

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        Subject:        double speed & software

        Hi there,

        I don't have double speed, but from time to time I am wondering
        whether I should get it installed. Now I hear eventually that
        some software does not work with double speed.

        Did ever someone put together a list of software which does not
        work?

        Are there some "famous", commenly used programs which do not
        work with ds? Or does everthing run somehow if it is just
        configured properly?

        What causes the problems that some programs do not run?

        Tia
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Didn't see the whole thread of this.
I presume its about feasibility of asian and
other lang translators.  I'm sure there is one
in Japanese and it works.  There is one in
Chinese TWIN BRIDGE.

Difficulty in translation is connotative and
not denotative.

yor pal al...........................

>I spent six months in Japan and attempted to learn a little of the
>language.  The structure is so different from English that I expect
>autotranslation would be next to useless.  Here, from memory, are a
>couple of word-for-word phrase translations.
>
>English: Can I have a glass of water?
>Japanese to English (word-for-word): Water one glass wish to recieve is.
>

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

 Jeff (and whoever else is interested),

I finally got Post and PGP to work, somewhat, by:
Setting up a seperate SC work  area with a bat. file to
set my path and load Maxdos,
Loading Post by itself, without WWW,
and, of course putting the period after SCRATCH in the
calling bat  files. I can now write a message and
encode or sign as desired. HOWEVER when I try to decode or verify the
messages PGP gives me armor or checksum errors, I think due to word
wrapping or added spaces. I'm still playing to see if I can  get it
all to work. The lesson is it takes LOTS of memory to do this, and for
me the path has to be set....
On further study (this is a work in progress), I was right. The viewing
the messages may wrap the signature and invalidate it. Going to
Menu-View-Reformat to make the signature look "right" fixes this.
Good luck and enjoy.

HTH

Paul


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQBVAwUBN2eAerxFWAnee0BJAQFS0AIAt2s6oK6HskRvaKApwquFXk9OAwc8Graa
O0lnFsr9HWcd6H0UI/2zZDRtKA2m12DD3EIWpskLGW21ezWHp3KR7w=3D=3D
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I haven't had any in about two years but I'v
never used it to play any games either.   :)

yor pal al......................

I wasn't aware that DS would cause software
>problems.   : (    Steve
>

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Thanks for the link to satisfy our curiosity.

$800 for a 24 shot, 100 ASA roll of film (albeit reuseable)..... ouch!

- Longden





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>   I remember reading about the digital insert for a regular 35 mm camera
> too. What I seem to remember about it though was that the expected cost
> was just as high (if not higher) as a whole comparable digital camera of
> that day.
>
>   I was intrigued about that when I read about that, too. I hope others
> have more info about it.


The URL for the site is:

http://www.imagek.com/index.shtml

They are now talking about a summer 1999 release

Sound's interesting to me!

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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:33:27 -0500, Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> I wasn't aware that DS would cause software
> problems.   : (

I asked a question a couple of weeks ago about the DS upgrade and games =
and
Mack replied with the way to slow it down.

Jeff

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So there's really not a problem with programs bombing. It's just that
they sometimes run to fast?
I can live with that! : )

Steve

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        On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:33:27 -0500, Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
wrote:

        > I wasn't aware that DS would cause software
        > problems.   : (

        I asked a question a couple of weeks ago about the DS upgrade
and games and
        Mack replied with the way to slow it down.

        Jeff

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> What I don't know how to ask for is a
>  utility that can take a comma-delimited or fixed-length file with fields
>  ordered f1, f2, f3, f4 and output it to a new comma-delimited or
>  fixed-length format with a new order of f2, f3, f4, f1 based on an
>  external configuration file.

You might try awk.  It takes a little study to get the program syntax correct
(at least it did for me), but I think it can do what you want.

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Hi Al

> I haven't had any in about two years but I'v
> never used it to play any games either.   :)

I just vaguely remembered that there were some problems
mentioned on the list. Maybe they were not really ds-related
and/or could be solved, I could be completely wrong. I merely
want to be sure before I might upgrade my machine.


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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:04:19 -0500, Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> =
wrote:

> So there's really not a problem with programs bombing. It's just that
> they sometimes run to fast?
> I can live with that! : )

Email Mack and ask him how to slow it down.... I just can't remember what =
he
told me to do to make it go slower <darn it>.

Jeff

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> So there's really not a problem with programs bombing. It's just that
> they sometimes run to fast?
> I can live with that! : )

<<Email Mack and ask him how to slow it down.... I just can't remember what
he
told me to do to make it go slower <darn it>.>>

You use SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key combo to switch between slow and fast modes.  One
program that used to not work was Volkov Commander, but I have created a
patch for it that is located on Super.

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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:16:00 -0500, Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> =
wrote:

> You use SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key combo to switch between slow and fast modes.

Ask and ye shall receive <g>!

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There was a recent thread regarding terminal emulations - VT100 IIRC. This
is what I would like to do, if someone could advise on possible problems.
I use IBM 3151 terminals for email access at work. They use RS 422 (not
current)
I would like to purchase a RS 232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use my 200
to access email. I can handle the aspects of that part of the process, but
how do I get the computers to talk the same language? I remember Procomm
having tons of terminal emulations, but I do not have that program anymore.
(Gone with the 5.25 drive... bad move in hindsight)
>>So my questions are this:
>>Is there a program that would emulate the IBM 3151 (IBMs web site was no
>help) What would I have to do to get this work?


What are you connecting to? Mainframe (3270) ?
or AS/400 (5250)?

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ProComm Plus (DOS) is still "on the shelves" at places like CompUSA and
Micro Center.  Usually it's priced quite high ($100US).  I just looked and
the IBM 3161 terminal is emulated (I don't know if it is significantly
different from the 3151).  I use ProComm Plus on my palmtop at least daily
and it works just fine.  I primarily use VT-100 emulation so I can't speak
from first-hand experience about the IBM emulations.  If you can stand the
price, and 3161 emulation will do, you can't beat ProComm's performance.  :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Petty ÝSMTP:swpetty@KIH.NET¨
        <snip>
> Is there a program that would emulate the IBM 3151 (IBMs web site was no
> help)
> What would I have to do to get this work?
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<<But let me ask one more question: What would happen if one put a 32MHz
quartz into the LX instead the 31.xxxx (?) MHz? Would the screen,
serial port, IR port and  so on work or not?>>

I'll have to let someone more knowledgeable answer this one.

<<BTW: Why did HP not use the 31.xxxx MHZ quartz but the slow 16 MHz?
If the 31 MHz works without problems... ?>>

In my conversations back in 1995-6 with HP, they told me that 2ble speed did
not meet some of their specifications.  Over the years the 2speed product
has been refined such that it is quite safe and reliable. By the time the
product had a proven track record, HP was no longer interested.  (My
understanding is that HP did do several large special orders with double
speed.  HP was also well-aware that the reason why the 200LX sold so well in
Japan was that double speed made using 3rd party "Jkit" - Japanese
characters - acceptable in performance.)

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Hal:

> In my conversations back in 1995-6 with HP, they told me that 2ble speed did
> not meet some of their specifications.  Over the years the 2speed product
> has been refined such that it is quite safe and reliable.

As an engineer, who deals with these things almost daily, I'm curious
now what specifications it didn't meet.  And how the 2X has been
"refined" to alleviate these issues.  Seems to me that if some setup
and/or hold times were violated at 2X, then no maturation cycle would
solve the problem.  There must be more to the story.  Maybe Mack can
pipe in...

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:55:50 -0500
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When I do a back-up I usually put everything on a 3.5in disk (or if I'm
doing a "seasonal" back-up, I use my Zip drive) using attrib to identify
_all_ the files (nothing can hide from attrib :) and then I make a copy of
the disk to a second floppy with xcopy.  I then put a copy on my hard drive
(this copy gets erased each time a new back-up is saved to hard drive).  I
date stamp the label and carry one of the disks downstairs and drop it into
an old fire safe.  The first floppy (I label it "1st copy" and date it) gets
put into a metal box upstairs in my computer "hole" where there are several
disks with the same information from previous back-ups.  I never re use a
floppy, they are cheap enough so that it's not necessary, and I never
compress, password-lock, or encrypt the files on the backups.  I do not
back-up applications (I keep the apps on individual disks) and I don't worry
about sorting the information in the old disks.  If I have a problem and go
to my back-ups for data, I start with the newest disk and work back until I
get a useful setup.  I do backups like this about twice a month.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yor Pal Al ÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:12 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      File back up
>
> Good Tues morning
> File back up requires more than copy *.* to
> (the same) a media.  It needs at least three
> copies.  A forth for off site on a monthy basis
> (updated monthly) for reference would be
> good insurance.
>
> Copying to the same flash card in a not a
> good deal because you usually don't have
> enough time to be aware there is a problem.
> What happens more times than not is you're
> copying garbage on top of a (possibly) good
> backup.  Coying multiple copies on the same
> media is little better than nothing. Making
> copies to different partitions of the same drive
> is sameo sameo for if the drive goes, all
> partitions go with it.
>
> yor pal al........................................
>
> >Does anybody know how password-encrypted GDB files are scrambled?
> >I've got a huge drive dump here to go through, and if there's some sort
> of algorithm I could apply (maybe using the HPCRACK program as a basis)
> to unscrambled it ALL,
>
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<<As an engineer, who deals with these things almost daily, I'm curious
now what specifications it didn't meet.  And how the 2X has been
"refined" to alleviate these issues.  Seems to me that if some setup
and/or hold times were violated at 2X, then no maturation cycle would
solve the problem.  There must be more to the story.  Maybe Mack can
pipe in...>>


Can't get away with anything<g>.  I'll continue to be vague -- wish I could
be more specific.  The problem had to do with some kind of heat
specification as I recall. Hopefully, Mack will jump in, but I believe Mack
has done quite a bit of work both on the driver and the hardware.

I do know from first hand experience, and from the experience of others that
some of the first upgrades from Japan didn't have the reliability that the
current upgrades have.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:32:25 -0500
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<<So there's really not a problem with programs bombing. It's just that
they sometimes run to fast?
I can live with that! : )>>

The upgrade is quite stable.  The only tech support problems we ever get is
when people lose their 2ble speed driver and then the screen looks funny.

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On 15 Jun 1999 08:39:45 -0700, hpstaber@CSI.COM (Hans Peter Staber) =
wrote:

> Knowledgeable people at HPHAND suggested also to wait a few
> months as there are new cameras due to be released with better
> lenses and more similarities to standard camera's.
>

This is a "problem" in this line of electronics..it is in constant
development..When I bought mine (Olympus C410L) 2 years ago a new model
was released a 2 months later..bit

I think you have to either sit on the fence and wait for the next best
thing or go out and seek the best deal you can get..it's the same
"problem" in the "pcworld" always something better around the
corner..

A picture taken with my 640*480 Olympuscamera will be on the website a
member of the list is creating..I think it is good enoug for my use..

See ya..
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:53:53 -0400
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Hi Pete,

>Ok, I have seen little big lan for some time, I just didn't think of
>it when you said LBL. For what I do I don't really have any use for
>it but I do remember looking at it a few years ago and thinking it
>looked very interesting. I keep thinking they had a subset of LBL
>that just did serial or something that was freeware or shareware but
>it has been a while sinc eI looked at it.

  I originally responded to an old ad about the simpler $25 serial
network, but when I checked on it, Imodes was no longer selling the $25
software, so I purchased the more versatile $75 network software. I'm
glad that I did.

  I too was intrigued with the alleged simplicity of the $25 software,
but I never got a chance to see it, either.

  If it was indeed shareware, I hope that someone who has it would be
willing to send me a copy that I could evaluate and possibly register
once I have it in hand.

  It's too bad that the $25 software is no longer available, as that
simple HP200LX/PC linking alternative would be really handy for HP200LX
users.

 Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Subject:      Re: double speed & software

I think most people (at least 52%) have
DS for more than a year.  The troubles
people have had was in using it.  ie:
reinstalling after a boot muck up etc.
Gotta get the drivers and stuff right.

>> I haven't had any in trouble in about two
years but I've never used it to play any games
either.   :)
>

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> At work we had an attack of the Melissa Virus.  The admin guys then
> added 50 bogus email address to the front of the Outlook. address book.
>  apparently, it only sends itself to the first 50 addresses in your
> address book.
>
> The other possibility is to buy Post LX or GP, and you won't have to
> worry about these new email viruses :-)

Such slick advertising!!! :-)

Viruses have a hard time on the palmtop in general because of the ROM. I
always have this image of a virus trying to bite into the chip (D: drive) and
just breaking its teeth on it.... :¨

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Rod Whitby <rwhitby@hplx.net> posted on Thu, 10 Jun 1999:

> Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> > Even while off, the palmtop will draw power exclusively from
> > the AC adapter when it is connected.  So, there is not any
> > load on any batteries.  Of course, charging must be disabled
> > in order to turn the palmtop off while on the AC adapter.
>
> Not if you use Mack's bios message killer.  I can now turn my palmtop
> off and on even when plugged in (very handy for changing PC cards).

Sorry to be late in this post, catching up is hard :-) ...

Be aware, Rod and EVERYONE:

When you use KILLMSG you can indeed turn the palmtop off while it is charging.

HOWEVER: When you do this the charging STOPS! So do not assume that it
continues charging - it does not. If you turn off the machine you also turn
off the program that is responsible for monitoring the the charging at the
SysMgr level!!! IOW, you can have some pretty nasty surprises!!!

The KILLMSG provides two major advantages (among others...) It stops the the
messages about Charging stopped and started etc. which last 3 seconds and seem
to disrupt the neckbreaking flow of work of many of us :-¨ And it also lets
you turn off the machine when you charge to change PCMCIA.

But, it is called KILLMSG, not MAGIK. So to repeat in case I was not clear:
When you turn off the machine and it was charging, the charging STOPS too. To
resume the charging you must turn the machine ON again.

Ýconfirmed in discussions with Mack early in May, he said he'd make it a bit
more clear in the docs, if not there already.¨

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:09:03 -0700
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This sounds good. Where can it be found?
Ken


Curtis wrote:

Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
Outlook's Contacts.

This version can convert extended characters correctly in both
directions. Also more extended characters are converted.

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I am also an IBM.net subscriber. Apparently AT&T has decided how it is
> going to deal with IBM.net and has informed some of the corporate troos
> and although nothing has been made public yet an announcement is
> supposedly imminent.
>
> > AT&T has already taken over IBM.net (which I use).
> > I'm waiting for any announcements concerning changes, haven't seen
> > any yet...

If AT&T decides to change IBM.NET to the point where I'll have
to drop it then I'll have to pick a new ISP.

I'm in San Jose, CA; does anyone have any recommendations (good
or bad) for ISPs in this area?  I only need phone line/modem
access (no DSL or ISDN).  I use WWWLX on the 200LX and my
desktop uses Opera browser with Trumpet Winsock on Win 3.1/Dos 5.
(In other words I won't be using their canned browser package.)

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>   Check out the following URL and the other referenced URLs for a ton of
> info on the $75 LBL network software. I think that the more you read
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes
>   Read all there is to read about it there and then please let me know
> what you think of it, OK? If you like what you see, let me know and I'll
> give you a couple of minor quirks that I've noticed in using the

John,
LBL sounds interesting, I'm interested.  Can you couple a 200LX
and a DOS 5 desktop via serial port?  Any problems or quirks?

cheers... Russ

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Federico de Argentina


Rick, sorry for making you feel defensive.  You were indeed very clear and
helpful with your post about babelfish.  Helpful even to me because I did
not even know such a thing existed online.  I was excited because, even
though I am fluent in english and spanish, I thought correcting or editing
*long* documents would be easier than translating them to begin with.  But
after translating some personal, job-related documents with babelfish, a
good third of it became uninteligible.  So the let down feeling is not with
you, but with babelfish.  Sometimes I expect too much of free technology.
:-)

> I don't read Spanish, but the translation was clear enough: He's crazy
> about the 200LX, and is looking for someone who can translate for him
> because it's tough getting some things across.  If one can figure out what
> the writer meant, then in this case the translator program has done its
job
> well enough, IMHO.

It is indeed good enough.  But you must admit it is rather humorous.  One of
my beefs is that some non-technical words were not even translated at all.
Usuario=user (is usuary even an english word at all?  Seems like spanglish
to me.  Spanglish is an American phenomenon which often occurs because the
speaker knows little english, and tries so desperately to convey his sense
that he simply makes the spanish words *sound* like english.  It is a very
human thing, but I would have never thought a computer would do that!  An
opposite example of spanglish is 'mopear'.  To mop=trapear, but someone took
the english word and made it sound like spanish!
Other words not translated were: interlocutor=chat partner,  si=if (in that
context)

> I notice you didn't translate my message back to him, which comes out:

-snip

> With the exception of the extraneous "it," I'd say that's a pretty darned
> good translation.

I think that's a merit on you, rather than babelfish, since you went to the
trouble to guess what it did not like to translate.  I found little problem
with your spanish post, and your technique of translating back and forth
surely helped a lot.

> (For Spanish output, it seems the main thing is to avoid
> pronouns (personal or otherwise), because of the Spanish
> masculine/feminine/other categorizations.)

I fed it a document with few/no pronouns, and it translated word per word,
with no attempt at grammar.   YMMV

> >I don't know what it would do with the technical chatter in this list . .
>
> Nor do I.  I rather expect it would leave untranslated any technical terms
> it didn't understand.  But perhaps we could figure it out from context.

One funny thing for me is that I learned computer terms in the US.  Then,
when attempting to read computer documents in spanish, I had a lot of
difficulty at first (and I am fluent in spanish).  Technical terms are
always tough to translate.  Again, YMMV . . .

> If you have a reason to be excited about the concept behind Babelfish,
> maybe you'll want to try some of the other online translators and
> dictionaries:

Thanks for the references, I'll check them out.  As someone said on  this
thread, even a primitive, word-per-word Japanese to English translator would
be great for those little software gems that keep coming out of Japan.

Again, sorry for making you feel defensive.  That was not my intention.

Domingo

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Subject: Re: double speed & software


> You use SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key combo to switch between slow and fast modes.

This adds CPU cycles, it doesn't save power or batteries, right?  I wish
there was a way it did . . .

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> Didn't see the whole thread of this.
> I presume its about feasibility of asian and
> other lang translators.  I'm sure there is one
> in Japanese and it works.  There is one in
> Chinese TWIN BRIDGE.

However bad it is, if anyone knows of a japanese one, let us know! (I know
of Okay Japanese, a search engine which translates english words and feeds
them to Japanese search engines like Yahoo Japan).

> Difficulty in translation is connotative and
> not denotative.

Absolutely.  I have learned to guess the meaning of phrases in Greek  and
Hebrew, and find it fascinating (of course, it helps that I know three other
languages).

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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:34:43 -0700, Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM> =
wrote:

> I finally got Post and PGP to work, somewhat, by:
> Setting up a seperate SC work  area with a bat. file to
> set my path and load Maxdos,

The way I had to setup MaxDOS with my LX and SC to make PGP work with
POST/LX was to remove maxdos from my autoexec.bat file and enter the
following line in the batch file that starts PGP from a SC session:

maxdos -l -e

The -e lets it take advantage of EMS memory. Now that I have it working =
it
seems like something I should have been able to figure out by myself, but =
I
did require some help.

Jeff

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Jeff,

> > I wasn't aware that DS would cause software
> > problems.   : (
>
> I asked a question a couple of weeks ago about the DS upgrade and games
> and
> Mack replied with the way to slow it down.

Microsoft RAS doesn't work any more with DS, ene in normal mode.

Regards

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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> This adds CPU cycles, it doesn't save power or batteries, right?  I
> wish there was a way it did . . .

You could always try the way I did about a year and a half ago-- wire up
two crystals, one 1x, one 2x, and a switch to change between them.  Maybe
with some extra support circuitry it wouldn't lock up the palmtop quite so
often.  <g>

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I agree here.

I've given up on hanging with the "bleeding edge" crowd and these days content
myself as a bottom feeder.

In buying new toys, I usually act when the price for a given goodie with the
desired features has dropped to my "discretionary" level....that is, when it no
longer costs an arm and a leg (nor guilt feelings).

Then the item is bought with the understanding that I might want to do the same
thing in the next year or two.

This way, I've found that I'm usually about 2 years behind the high-end leaders,
but have a good deal more pocket change for my troubles.  I'm also able, by
then, to discern the "flash in the pan" items and technologies from the solid
performers.  Such is the lot of a po' boy from the wrong side of the tracks <g>.
Not to knock those who always go right out and buy the biggest and the best...if
I had the money I'd do likewise.

- Longden





Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> on 06/16/99 11:47:58 AM

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This is a "problem" in this line of electronics..it is in constant
development..When I bought mine (Olympus C410L) 2 years ago a new model
was released a 2 months later..bit

I think you have to either sit on the fence and wait for the next best
thing or go out and seek the best deal you can get..it's the same
"problem" in the "pcworld" always something better around the
corner..

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Like most people, I usually boot from A: where I keep most of my junk including
T2T utilitiies, even tho the config.sys (A and C versions) both reference the
speed driver:

     device=c:\utl\spd31.sys.

This is because sometimes I need to boot from C (sans my flash card).

As added insurance for when the driver may get purged, I have the autoexec.bat
on the flash card do the following before the regular stuff:

@echo off
if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
md c:\utl
copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
a:\utl\boot.com
:nxt1

This prologue checks for the speed driver on C and if it's found, proceeds to
the rest of the autoexec, but if it's not there, it's copied from the flash card
to C and then the LX is rebooted.  This way, I always have a viewable screen
after the boot so I can fix any other problems.

- Longden





Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> on 06/16/99 11:58:10 AM

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Subject:  Re: double speed & software




I think most people (at least 52%) have
DS for more than a year.  The troubles
people have had was in using it.  ie:
reinstalling after a boot muck up etc.
Gotta get the drivers and stuff right.

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Sean Hoger wrote:
>This sounds like a great program for anyone with kids!  I know I am forever
>telling my kids they have an hour left to play, and then setting the timer
>on the microwave, or stove...  Since I'm usually in another room working,
>and my palmtop is always by my side, this would be great little utility.

Why not just use the built in Stopwatch program which has a timer function
that counts down and generates an audible alarm at the end of the period?

Laurence Harvey

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  I have never had any problems with a 200LX 6MB upgraded at home with the
T. Rundell do-it-yourself double- speed kit with the built in applications
nor any of the many DOS programs I use on the LX. I considder the upgrade to
double-speed as a very rewarding investment.

------------original message------------
. I wasn't aware that DS would cause software problems. : (
Steve

Ales Bourek {:>

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Martin Bergvill writes:
>
> I have a Olympus C410L. I do not know what it is called in the US. But

So do I. I have written a web page about it, with hints and tips, software
used. If you are interested have a look at

http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html

Daniel Kropveld

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Normally, the fat is what links together the clusters. When the
file is deleted, probably the head of the cluster chain is linked
to an available pool, but the chain is not disturbed until the space
is reused. If it were, at
deletion, Norton could never restore the file. Haven't you noticed
after a chkdsk, a msg. like 100 lost sectors in 13 chains. Chkdsk creates
files FILE000N.CHK that can be quite large.

David Sargeant wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Steve Novosad wrote:
>
> >      It has been a while so take this with a grain of salt. DISKEDIT
> > can open two windows so you can look at the FAT at the same time as
> > the data file.  If you find a cluster with your data in it, you should
> > be able to trace the FAT to get the file.  I lost a root directory
> > once and Norton UNFORMAT saved my lunch by finding all the
> > subdirectory structures and recreating the disk.  If you can make an
> > exact copy, you could try using it.
>
> Good advice... but the FAT doesn't have any mention of the data.  These
> files had been deleted before, and only their data remains...
>
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I've ordered from buycomp a Sandisk 48M CF card. I noticed that buycomp had
two different Sandisk 48M CF cards listed in their inventory. The Sandisk
part numbers are:
SDCFB-48-144 for $95.00 (this is the one I ordered)
SDCFB-48-299 for $123.00

I was curious about the differences between the cards (ie why the different
prices) and buycomp didn't know so I emailed Sandisk tech support.

They replied with this:

Thank you for contacting SanDisk Technical Support.

SDCFB-48-144, is the card your are looking for.

__________________________
SanDisk Technical Support
Tel. +1.408.542.0724
Fax +1.408.542.0403
Jbrown@sandisk.com


Well, I guess I've ordered the right one but still I'm curious about what
the -144 and -299 difference is.
Does anyone here know?

Thanks,
Owen

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Hi Owen.

I have the 48mb Sandisk CF card in my LX, but sorry to tell you I don't know the
difference either.

My card only shows "SDCFB" on the back.  Neither "144" nor "299" appear anywhere
that I could see.

I hate replying with no news, but just thought I'd mention this so you wouldn't
think Sandisk CF owners were holding out on you <g>.

- Longden





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Subject:  Sandisk CF part numbers




I've ordered from buycomp a Sandisk 48M CF card. I noticed that buycomp had
two different Sandisk 48M CF cards listed in their inventory. The Sandisk
part numbers are:
SDCFB-48-144 for $95.00 (this is the one I ordered)
SDCFB-48-299 for $123.00

I was curious about the differences between the cards (ie why the different
prices) and buycomp didn't know so I emailed Sandisk tech support.

They replied with this:

Thank you for contacting SanDisk Technical Support.

SDCFB-48-144, is the card your are looking for.

__________________________
SanDisk Technical Support
Tel. +1.408.542.0724
Fax +1.408.542.0403
Jbrown@sandisk.com


Well, I guess I've ordered the right one but still I'm curious about what
the -144 and -299 difference is.
Does anyone here know?

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On 14 Jun 99, at 22:59, Stephan Goeldi wrote:



> >Just to get you by I suggest installing the HP Windows version of App,
> Phone,
> >and use DBView for viewing your database and Notetake files.
>
>

There is a nice japanese M$ Windows implementation of the
gdb/ndb/pdb app. With a setback: all pull down menus are in
japanese. Now if I only could find the URL.

Oh! Yes, here it is. A quick trip to Guel's homepage did it:

http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~fronttom/

The program is called GDBWin.

Enjoy

Regards

Antonio
---------------------------------------------------------
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Porto - Portugal
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Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., local time)
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Ken,

I am running the connectivity pack under Windows 95 with no
problems, although when I tried to install it on another 95
machine a few days ago, it ran, but the filer wouldn't connect,
complaining that Laplink Remote was in use. I booted to MS-DOS
bypassing all config & autoexec, but it still said them same!

But, bottom line is it can be done cos it works on my PC. What
problems are you having?

Chris R.


Ken Moore wrote:

> Is the installation procedure for installing the HP Connectivity Pack =
on
> Windows 95 and 98 different from installing on Windows 3.1? I have =
never
> been successful.
> Ken
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In a message dated 6/16/1999 03:42:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM writes:

>
>  In buying new toys, I usually act when the price for a given goodie with
the
>  desired features has dropped to my "discretionary" level....that is, when
it
> no longer costs an arm and a leg (nor guilt feelings).

My idea of "discretionary level" is when I don't have to consult with (i.e.,
ask) my Better Half first.

      8¬)

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The new Telnet version is a real improvment from the last one.
Much faster and higlighting is ok now.

      /tomas moberg
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     Hello list members,

     Some weeks ago I posted that game 947293 was unsolvable by me and my
     partner (after a joint total of approximately 1800 consecutive solved
     games).

     A number of other list subscribers have confirmed the difficulty of
     this game, with no messages of success to date, to my knowledge.

     May we now postulate that this game is indeed unsolvable? (I had the
     impression that all freecell games are eventually solvable?).

     Regards,


     Peter Prime

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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Question and other stuff...
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> But anyway - and that is why I had to say sorry above - there WILL NOT
> be any further development for HV.

So if HV is already a freeware product, and you can no longer do any
development for it, then may I ask you to consider releasing the source
code ?  Then maybe others - not me, cause I don't do GUIs :-) - can
spend the time to do the rewrite that you've said it requires before it
can be extended, and maybe D&A can benefit from work that someone may
do for you for free ?

How about it ?  Release the source code for HV under a license that
any changes have to be released under a completely different name
(including the "About" message) so you don't get support calls about
it), and that any improvements are always available for you to use in
a commercial D&A product if you choose to do so.

Show the palmtop community that you are not going to "leave them in the
lurch" with a freeware binary that they can never change or improve.

And BTW, a huge thanks to you for all the work you have put into the
palmtop software so far - I use your tools everyday, and do not want to
see them stagnate and die because they are too valuable to me.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:00:32 -0400
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>Rick, sorry for making you feel defensive.

<Laughing> Boy, did I send -- or did you read -- the wrong signals on
*that* one.  In no way was I feeling defensive.  Your post was perfectly
reasonable, and I was just offering additional commentary.  (Let's face it,
if things bothered me *that* easily, I'd have no business being on a
listserv!)

And hey, if I was ticked, I wouldn't have gone to the effort of offering
additional translation resources, right?  8¬)

> But you must admit it is rather humorous.

<Chuckle> Oh gosh yes, no argument there.  Especially the dreaded
turtle-wrestling translation.  ;¬)

>Usuario=user (is usuary even an english word at all?)

Not that I'm aware.  There's usury, which basically means lending money
with interest.  When I read "usuary" I thought of all the
amateur-translated Japanese Web pages I've looked at while looking into the
LCD backlight project (there's the obligatory HP LX comment ;¬).  It's not
uncommon to see Ls and Rs swapped... "I usuary think 200LX wonderful
palmtop."

Out of curiosity, I fed Babelfish "user" and asked for Spanish... it shot
back "utilizador"... I can see the connection with "utilizer," but what's
the distinction between utilizador and usuario?

Oh, and here's something interesting:  Just hand babelfish "usuario" by
itself and it comes back "user".  Stick something with it -- I tried "x
usuario" -- and it comes back "usuary!"  So whatever the problem is, it's
context-dependent.

>Spanglish is an American phenomenon which often occurs because the
>speaker knows little english, and tries so desperately to convey his sense
>that he simply makes the spanish words *sound* like english.  It is a very
>human thing, but I would have never thought a computer would do that!

<Laughing> Nor would I... but let's not forget that computers are
programmed by *people*...

>An opposite example of spanglish is 'mopear'.  To mop=trapear, but someone
took
>the english word and made it sound like spanish!

<Raising hand> Guilty.  Not knowing Spanish, I had no idea how to say
"rubber bands" to a Mexican gentleman once upon a time... apparently
"roo-bear-o band-ohs" is good for a laugh for both nationalities, but it
doesn't get the point across.  8¬)

>I think that's a merit on you, rather than babelfish, since you went to
the
>trouble to guess what it did not like to translate.  I found little
problem
>with your spanish post, and your technique of translating back and forth
>surely helped a lot.

There, I was just attempting to point out that you *can* coerce it into
getting your ideas across if you're willing to work at it.  Sort of like
squinting at a tiny 80x25 low-contrast non-backlit palmtop screen.  (There,
another obligatory LX comment!)  The utility of the whole thing means most
of us are willing to work just a little bit harder to make it all happen,
yes?  It was a trick I'd found useful in the past, so I thought I'd pass it
along.

>Again, sorry for making you feel defensive.  That was not my intention.

And again, no need to apologize *or* concern yourself.  Your post was
perfectly fine.

Rick

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Well said Rob! I'm in total and utterly complete agreement!

Philippe

> Andreas Garzotto writes:
> > But anyway - and that is why I had to say sorry above - there WILL NOT
> > be any further development for HV.
>
> So if HV is already a freeware product, and you can no longer do any

<snip all the good stuff>

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In a message dated 6/16/1999 07:58:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU writes:

> Some weeks ago I posted that game 947293 was unsolvable by me and my
partner.  <snip> May we now postulate that this game is indeed unsolvable?

We may certainly postulate it.  There are still a few people attempting to
disprove the hypothesis.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:03:51 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 12:40 PM 6/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I agree here.
>
>I've given up on hanging with the "bleeding edge" crowd and these days
content
>myself as a bottom feeder.
>
>In buying new toys, I usually act when the price for a given goodie with the
>desired features has dropped to my "discretionary" level....that is, when
it no
>longer costs an arm and a leg (nor guilt feelings).
>
>- Longden
>
>
Me too. When I saw the 48M flashcards on buycomp they were over $200. I
said when it goes below $100 I'll get one. Well it did just in time for
Father's Day this year so one is on the way. Finally I can store everything
I want on my palmtop. With the 10M I have now, I've had to pick and choose
what to keep loaded.

Owen

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:34:26 -0400
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Anyone have a copy of Procomm Plus that would run on the 200lx?
Phil Drummond wrote:
>the IBM 3161 terminal is emulated (I don't know if it is significantly
>different from the 3151).  I use ProComm Plus on my palmtop at least daily
>and it works just fine.  I primarily use VT-100 emulation so I can't speak

This sounds like it might be the solution I am looking for.
I have Word Perfect 5.1 in box with manuals and registration card that I
could swap...
Or OS/2 2.1 through 4.0 if anyone is really interested...

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Avi,

Good news. (G)

=BBWe now have a newer version of WWW.EXE being tested in beta which =
seems to work so far.=AB

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:05:28 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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PAF 3.0 *will* run on the palmtop.

Yes, it's true.  It only requires that you change the screen colors to
be more visible.

I have it on my 200lx at this very moment.

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I use procomPlus32 on the desktop,and on the
GatewayLiberty when traveling..to get into the office with VT220 emulation
settings
Our MIS team set the palmtop us with a version of Procom so I could use my
stacker card with the program on it; I have a 'pocketModem' by megahertz
that plugs into palmtop with conectivity cable...IT WAS QUITE A SITE TO SEE
IT OPERATE WITH CELLULAR, OR LANDLINE...the MIS guys will not help me get
the command to make it run but I will keep trying

HEY THAT WAS NO ANSWER...THAT WAS A 'DUMP'..THE NOTEBOOK IS RUNNING IT ON
3.1 AND THE DESKTOP HAS '98 AND MY 100LX WITH STACKER IS ???? 286?

John

At 09:34 PM 6/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone have a copy of Procomm Plus that would run on the 200lx?
>Phil Drummond wrote:
>>the IBM 3161 terminal is emulated (I don't know if it is significantly
>>different from the 3151).  I use ProComm Plus on my palmtop at least daily
>>and it works just fine.  I primarily use VT-100 emulation so I can't speak
>
>This sounds like it might be the solution I am looking for.
>I have Word Perfect 5.1 in box with manuals and registration card that I
>could swap...
>Or OS/2 2.1 through 4.0 if anyone is really interested...
>
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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:14:01 -0500
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> From: Mack Baggette Ýmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
.... snip ....
> You use SHIFT-CTRL-DEL key combo to switch between
> slow and fast modes.  One

  But how can someone tell if it's set to high speed or not?  When I press
that keystroke anywhere in a sys-manager app or exm, I just get a beep.  In
DOS, I don't even get that.  (If the beep were two different tones, that
might be a good indication...<hint>)

  Hmmm....  Actually, now I'm wondering if SPD31 is even seeing my
keystrokes.  (Pressing SHIFT-CTRL-DEL doesn't seem to have any effect on my
system.  And SHIFT-CTRL-S and SHIFT-CTRL-N doesn't appear to do
anything....)  Does anyone know of any common HPLX system enhancements that
might interfere with SPD31's keyboard handler?  I've got quite a few
"enhancements" loaded, but haven't noticed major problems with other
programs...

  Anyone??

  Regards,
        ... John L. Stanley

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Subject:      Can 200lx and Windows 98 work together?

Sometimes you can get the cpak running with
the filer showing straightaway and no icons
so you can't get into any of the databases?
That happens sometimes too.

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> From: Stan Peters Ýmailto:speters@KDSI.NET¨
>
> Normally, the fat is what links together the clusters. When the
> file is deleted, probably the head of the cluster chain is linked
> to an available pool, but the chain is not disturbed until the space
> is reused. If it were, at
> deletion, Norton could never restore the file.

  Nice theory, but it doesn't work like that...

  When a file is deleted, the FAT table "chain" for that file is cleared.
That's how DOS "knows" which sectors are available for use by other files.
The only thing left (until it gets reused) is the a file entry record in the
directory, with the first character in the filename changed to mark it as
"deleted".  The directory record also has a pointer to the 1st cluster used
by the file, the size of the file, some flags, and the time/date stamp.

  Norton uses "reasonable guesses", but it can't successfully recover all
large files on a badly fragmented drive or after you've deleted a lot or
created much on the disk after deleting.  It knows that the file consisted
of the cluster pointed to by the directory record.  If your file was less
than one cluster in size, that's enough (plus the 1st character of the
filename) to get your file back.  If your file was larger than one cluster
in size, it "guesses" that the next <n> clusters that are currently free
belonged to that file and it chains them together for you.  If you're lucky,
that's enough, but it's not a sure thing...

  I've heard that some file-recovery programs (don't know about Norton) can
use backup FAT-table images if you've been making regular "image" backups
using their tools.  If your file was in the image, it can use the "chain" in
the backup FAT copy to recover the file.

  I've spent weeks (recovering what I could from a very old DOS system)
patching FAT and directory tables by hand.  I know this stuff far TOO well.
:¬p

       ... JLS

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:26:31 -0500
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>   But how can someone tell if it's set to high speed or not?  When I press
> that keystroke anywhere in a sys-manager app or exm, I just get a beep.
In
> DOS, I don't even get that.  (If the beep were two different tones, that
> might be a good indication...<hint>)

It may be that you have an older version of the driver as I added that a
while back, but it may have been after you received your upgrade.  It should
be called SPD31.EXE and you should hear no beep.  I did have a problem with
eating the keystrokes at one point which would cause a beep, but that has
been fixed also.

Just doing a directory or going in the More icon screen, you should see a
major difference in speed.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:34:40 +0800
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Guess I'm the lucky one.
I'd cpack installed on Win31, Win95 and Win98, it works perfectly. Never
encounter any problem.
I don't use the filer in cpack for file transfer, but had tried it and it is
working fine.
I use the database, and calculator very day, can't live with them.

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Peter Prime wrote:

>     May we now postulate that this game is indeed unsolvable? (I had =
the
>     impression that all freecell games are eventually solvable?).

No, there is one game in the Microsoft version of FreeCell that is
unsolvable.=20

--=20
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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Stanley, John L. wrote:

>   I've spent weeks (recovering what I could from a very old DOS
> system) patching FAT and directory tables by hand.  I know this stuff
> far TOO well. :¬p

Well, in that case... buddy... pal... <g>

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Well, this doesn't necessarily disagree with what you say, but
I remember a weekend spent `reconstructing' my 100meg hard disk
(this was back in the days where one said `Wow' about a 100 meg
hard disk).

The `FAT', fortunately for me at least, wasn't `cleared' in any sense,
at least not by the version of DOS on my machine.

IIRC, `deletion' of a file involved (a) changing the directory entry
to have something like an 0xE5 as the first character; (b) setting
the `file pointer' in the directory entry to `0'; and (c) linking the
`chain' of clusters that contained the body of the file into the
list of `free space'.

As a result, if you could catch a `destroyed' disk quickly enough
(before there was too much writing and re-writing in the FAT), you
_could_ reconstruct the files by (a) replacing the first character
in the file name in the directory; (b) finding the actual first
cluster of the file and patching its address into the directory
entry; and (c) re-forming the chain of successive blocks, pulling
them out of the `free space list'.

At least that's the way I remember it.

Stanley, John L. wrote:
>
> > From: Stan Peters Ýmailto:speters@KDSI.NET¨
> >
> > Normally, the fat is what links together the clusters. When the
> > file is deleted, probably the head of the cluster chain is linked
> > to an available pool, but the chain is not disturbed until the space
> > is reused. If it were, at
> > deletion, Norton could never restore the file.
>
>   Nice theory, but it doesn't work like that...
>
>   When a file is deleted, the FAT table "chain" for that file is cleared.
> That's how DOS "knows" which sectors are available for use by other files.
> The only thing left (until it gets reused) is the a file entry record in the
> directory, with the first character in the filename changed to mark it as
> "deleted".  The directory record also has a pointer to the 1st cluster used
> by the file, the size of the file, some flags, and the time/date stamp.
>
>   Norton uses "reasonable guesses", but it can't successfully recover all
> large files on a badly fragmented drive or after you've deleted a lot or
> created much on the disk after deleting.  It knows that the file consisted
> of the cluster pointed to by the directory record.  If your file was less
> than one cluster in size, that's enough (plus the 1st character of the
> filename) to get your file back.  If your file was larger than one cluster
> in size, it "guesses" that the next <n> clusters that are currently free
> belonged to that file and it chains them together for you.  If you're lucky,
> that's enough, but it's not a sure thing...
>
>   I've heard that some file-recovery programs (don't know about Norton) can
> use backup FAT-table images if you've been making regular "image" backups
> using their tools.  If your file was in the image, it can use the "chain" in
> the backup FAT copy to recover the file.
>
>   I've spent weeks (recovering what I could from a very old DOS system)
> patching FAT and directory tables by hand.  I know this stuff far TOO well.
> :¬p
>
>        ... JLS
>
>  --
> John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
> Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.
>
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:25:26 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Oh sure...there always has to be a wise guy in every crowd!  <VBG> ;)

>Why not just use the built in Stopwatch program which has a timer function
>that counts down and generates an audible alarm at the end of the period?

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:57:55 +0200
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Longden,

> @echo off
> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
> md c:\utl
> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
> a:\utl\boot.com
> :nxt1

Where did you get boot.com?

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:58:47 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: David Ness Ýmailto:DNess@Home.Com¨

> IIRC, `deletion' of a file involved (a) changing the directory entry
> to have something like an 0xE5 as the first character; (b) setting
> the `file pointer' in the directory entry to `0'; and (c) linking the
> `chain' of clusters that contained the body of the file into the
> list of `free space'.

  Well, as far as DOS formatted disks go:  Correct on (a).  What you
describe in (b) wasn't true on any systems I've worked on.  And, (c) is only
true in the sense that the clusters are released for reuse by being marked
as free.  (There is NO chained list of free space on a DOS disk!  There's
simply no place for it...)

> As a result, if you could catch a `destroyed' disk quickly enough
> (before there was too much writing and re-writing in the FAT), you
> _could_ reconstruct the files by (a) replacing the first character
> in the file name in the directory; (b) finding the actual first
> cluster of the file and patching its address into the directory
> entry; and (c) re-forming the chain of successive blocks, pulling
> them out of the `free space list'.

  Well, there's really no place for a free space "LIST" to be stored.  You
might suppose the FAT table could be used .... but .... FAT entries that are
available for use are marked as available by being set to 0...  You can work
from a generated "list" of unallocated clusters, but they wouldn't
necessarily be in the same order the clusters were in when they were a file.

  Are you sure this was on a DOS machine?  I think I remember reading about
a file system like what you're describing, but it wasn't any version of DOS
since DOS 3.  (Could it have been an NTFS partition or some UNIX variant?)

  (I could also imagine having the list you described if you were running
some special TSR software that retained that kind of information...  But
it's not part of a normal DOS system.)

        ... JLS

  PS:  I "should" know this...  What does "IIRC" stand for?

 --
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:08:05 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I recently purchased PAF 3.0 but have not yet had a chance to try it out on
the HP200LX.

Which runs better on the 200LX, 3.0 or 2.31?

If 2.31, any idea where I can get a copy of version 2.31?

==================
At 10:17 AM 6/15/99 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
>
>It's a foul lie.  <g>  PAF 3.0's system requirements claim it needs a 286,
>but it runs fine on the 200LX.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:10:48 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Word Perfect and SC
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Another solution is to try using the WordPerfect menus instead of the
function keys.
=================
At 04:29 PM 6/14/99 -0400, Tony Guzewicz wrote:
>I use Word Perfect and Software Carousel but sometimes the WP commands
involve
>using shift and F keys. How does one avoid a conflict with Carousel?

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:13:59 EDT
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I am sorry. I should have paid more attention. I recently purchased 4 NIMH AA
cells for my 200LX ($1.50 each). Can I charge them in the LX using the built
in charging program? Replies off list are fine.

Thanks
Dennis

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:28:46 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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I've been waiting to see someone comment about the poor man's solution to
getting high quality digital pictures.

Someone mentioned that digital cameras did not produce images as good as
those cameras using film.

Several film processing companies offer to process your 35mm film and
provide paper prints or digital file copies on disk.

Has anyone tried this?  If so, how was the quality?

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:22:44 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I sent the folks who produced the $25 Network to see if there is anyway we
could distribute the program. It is simple! Will post the response.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

John J Vanderstel wrote:

> Hi Pete,
>
> >Ok, I have seen little big lan for some time, I just didn't think of
> >it when you said LBL. For what I do I don't really have any use for
> >it but I do remember looking at it a few years ago and thinking it
> >looked very interesting. I keep thinking they had a subset of LBL
> >that just did serial or something that was freeware or shareware but
> >it has been a while sinc eI looked at it.
>
>   I originally responded to an old ad about the simpler $25 serial
> network, but when I checked on it, Imodes was no longer selling the $25
> software, so I purchased the more versatile $75 network software. I'm
> glad that I did.
>
>   I too was intrigued with the alleged simplicity of the $25 software,
> but I never got a chance to see it, either.
>
>   If it was indeed shareware, I hope that someone who has it would be
> willing to send me a copy that I could evaluate and possibly register
> once I have it in hand.
>
>   It's too bad that the $25 software is no longer available, as that
> simple HP200LX/PC linking alternative would be really handy for HP200LX
> users.
>
>  Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Get the Internet just the way you want it.
> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
> Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
>
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:32:48 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:34 PM
Subject: Procomm Plus


> Anyone have a copy of Procomm Plus that would run on the 200lx?

You should be able to still find a shareware copy on Simtel.  If not, I
think I have a copy around.  I don't remember the version, don't know if it
will work on the palmtop, but if you cannot get it from Simtel, give me a
shout.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:34:42 -0400
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I'll try to reconstruct the memory with a little better detail.

It certainly wasn't NTFS (no such thing existed then, wasn't it a
decade away?), and while my brother was a Unix Systems Developer, I
never had anything other than a casual and familial interest in Unix. It
was _unquestionably_ a  DOS machine. I don't remember Dos version,
though I would suspect 3.3  (perhaps). It was a NEC portable that I
bought at J&R in New York, and  it had a glorious screen (for its time).

I don't remember what caused the disk to blow, but it was probably
the logical equivalent of a `DEL *.*'. I remember (a) instantly
recongnizing it as a mistake, so no issues of `later use' were
involved; and (b) I did, with 36hrs of work _completely_ recover
the disk. I do explicitly remember that it required octal patches
to both the directory sectors and to the FAT itself. A particular
challenge was piecing together the ZIP files into chunks that
would eventually allow themselves to be unzipped.

I seem to recall that the FATs of that day had `Free', `Next Cluster'
and at least two other kinds of `flags' as entries, but I can't
yet remember the purpose of the flags (except that they were
illegal cluster numbers, given the disks that we had at the time).

With luck, and a little time this coming weekend, I may be able to
re-constitute my all too vague memories, or, better yet, I may be
able to find some of the code from that era. Good ASCII can do that.

Stanley, John L. wrote:
>
> > From: David Ness Ýmailto:DNess@Home.Com¨
>
> > IIRC, `deletion' of a file involved (a) changing the directory entry
> > to have something like an 0xE5 as the first character; (b) setting
> > the `file pointer' in the directory entry to `0'; and (c) linking the
> > `chain' of clusters that contained the body of the file into the
> > list of `free space'.
>
>   Well, as far as DOS formatted disks go:  Correct on (a).  What you
> describe in (b) wasn't true on any systems I've worked on.  And, (c) is only
> true in the sense that the clusters are released for reuse by being marked
> as free.  (There is NO chained list of free space on a DOS disk!  There's
> simply no place for it...)
>
> > As a result, if you could catch a `destroyed' disk quickly enough
> > (before there was too much writing and re-writing in the FAT), you
> > _could_ reconstruct the files by (a) replacing the first character
> > in the file name in the directory; (b) finding the actual first
> > cluster of the file and patching its address into the directory
> > entry; and (c) re-forming the chain of successive blocks, pulling
> > them out of the `free space list'.
>
>   Well, there's really no place for a free space "LIST" to be stored.  You
> might suppose the FAT table could be used .... but .... FAT entries that are
> available for use are marked as available by being set to 0...  You can work
> from a generated "list" of unallocated clusters, but they wouldn't
> necessarily be in the same order the clusters were in when they were a file.
>
>   Are you sure this was on a DOS machine?  I think I remember reading about
> a file system like what you're describing, but it wasn't any version of DOS
> since DOS 3.  (Could it have been an NTFS partition or some UNIX variant?)
>
>   (I could also imagine having the list you described if you were running
> some special TSR software that retained that kind of information...  But
> it's not part of a normal DOS system.)
>
>         ... JLS
>
>   PS:  I "should" know this...  What does "IIRC" stand for?
>
>  --
> John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:16:26 +0930
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Folks,

After thinking a bit more about releasing the source to HV, I realised
that the source to HV actually contains the API for WWW/LX, which is
like the crown jewels to D&A, and would adversely affect them if
released (potentially close them down if some unscrupulous developer
took the code and created a competing program for free).  Removing the
API would probably be too much work (and they're not getting paid for
it, so it would detract from their other useful work on POST/LX).

So I guess it's not a good idea after all, as I certainly don't want
palmtop companies to be harmed (there's few enough of them already).

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:42:23 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: double speed & software
Comments: cc: h_e_guenther@CSI.COM

   >> @echo off
   >> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
   >> md c:\utl
   >> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
   >> a:\utl\boot.com
   >> :nxt1
Message-Id: <19990617064229.DWKX9693@Ý12.72.154.235¨>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:42:29 +0000

   >Where did you get boot.com?

I don't recall.  It's only a 16  byte, garden-variety, dime-a-dozen
rebooting program.  If I were allowed to send binaries, I'd just attach it
to this note... naturally I won't, but if I did, it'd look something like:

begin 644 boot.com
0N$``CMC'!G(`-!+J``#__P``
`
end

Jorgen Dybdahl may have provided the original...but any such utility will
do. Even LXSTAT (from SUPER) will do it using "lxstat !".

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:46:39 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: David Ness Ýmailto:DNess@HOME.COM¨
> I seem to recall that the FATs of that day had `Free', `Next Cluster'
> and at least two other kinds of `flags' as entries, but I can't
> yet remember the purpose of the flags (except that they were
> illegal cluster numbers, given the disks that we had at the time).

  Could they have been 'EOF', 'Bad Cluster', and 'Invalid Cluster'?

 Entries in a DOS FAT table would be:
 'Free' is any entry with a 0 in it.
 'Next Cluster' is a normal FAT entry pointing to the next file cluster.
 'EOF' marks the end of a file chain.
     (for 12bit FAT: 0xfff)(for 16bit FAT: 0xffff)
 'Bad Cluster' marks a cluster that has failed and shouldn't be used.
     (for 12bit FAT: 0xff7)(for 16bit FAT: 0xfff7)
 'Invalid Cluster' is any FAT entry that equals 0x0001 or any cluster
     number beyond the end of the partition (ignoring 'Bad Cluster'(s)).

      ... JLS

 PS:  Standard 'Bad Cluster' values are 0xff7 or 0xfff7 for 12 and 16 bit
FATs, but some older chkdsk utilities have used other values (up to 0xffe or
0xfffe) and DOS/Windows tends to honor anything in that range as "Bad".

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:29:10 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Several people asked for it. It is something I got from Ed Keefe, I believe,
about 2 years ago. I seem to recall he mentioned he got it somewhere, modified
it and then I got it.

I put in a whole lot of changes to it, but still, it would be a stretch to
call it my own. Maybe some minor pieces of it are mine...

So here is how I use this backup batch file: Every morning at 4am an
appointment wakes this batch file. At 5am another appointment wakes up a
system macro (this one _is_ my own) which moves the appointments forward by
one day (I can adjust to skip as much as I want...) If anyone wants to see
that system macro, I'll have to dig it out since lately I just move the backup
manually to some specific day in the future.

Ok the batch file: First part deletes stuff I don't want to worry about...
Thhen calculate the environment variable which contains the yymmdd formatted
current date. The third part is just the pkzip of the files. See how I use the
today varialbe in the zip command %today%. I add some letter in front to
logically group things (bases, mail, Post/LX).

Anyone has questions, post them here, don't email me privately. Thanks.

Enjoy!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

----------


REM --- Delete all unneeded files

        del c:\post2\*.pag
        del c:\post2\*.lab
        del c:\utils\workfile\*.pag
        del c:\utils\workfile\*.lab

REM --- Set up the DATE as YYMMDD in the Environment
REM --- variable "today"

@echo off
REM --- GETODAY.BAT
REM --- getoday.bat gets today's date into e-var
REM --- Today in format YYMMDD
echo. | date > datetmp$.bat
echo set today=%%4>current.bat
call datetmp$.bat
del datetmp$.bat
del current.bat
set count=

REM --- Loop1 changes Today to YYYYMMDD
:Loop1
set old=%Today%
for %%v in (/%Today%) do set today=%%v
for %%v in (/%old%) do if '%%v'=='-' goto skip
for %%v in (/%old%) do if '%%v%today%'=='%old%' set     today=%today%%%v
:skip
REM --- Echo The value of Today is "%Today%"
set count=%count%x
if not '%count%'=='xxxxx' goto Loop1

REM --- Loop2 reduces Today to YYMMDD
:Loop2
for %%v in (/%today%) do set today=%%v
set count=%count%x
if not '%count%'=='xxxxxxxx' goto Loop2
for %%v in (old count) do set %%v=
Echo The value of Today is "%today%"

REM -------------------------------------------------
REM --- Zip files into A:\Backup.
REM ---

        PKZIP -ex  A:\BACKUP\B%today% a:\avi\bases\*.*
        PKZIP -aex A:\Backup\B%today% a:\avi\*.pdt
        pkzip -ex  A:\backup\P%today% c:\post2\mail.*
        PKZIP -aex A:\backup\P%today% c:\post2\*.cfg
        PKZIP -aex A:\backup\P%today% c:\post2\*.adr
        PKZIP -aex A:\backup\P%today% A:\post2stf\admin.*

REM --- Exclude the files (incl. wild cards) mentioned in zipxclud.
REM ---
REM     PKZIP -exrp -whs A:\BACKUP\C%today% c:\*.* -x@c:\zipxclud.
REM     PKZIP -exrp -whs C:\%today%C c:\*.* -x@c:\zipxclud.

REM ----------------------------------------------
REM --- Set up timeout to 75 seconds.
REM ---
        c:\utils\timeout s75

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I've had my machine double sped (?) and the only thing that I've
had problems with is the Silicom network card. The software just
keeps reporting a memory error.

I spoke to Silicom's tech support and they have no plans to write
an updated driver! So now I use an Accton NIC with no problems.

Don't worry about upgrading, get as much memory as you can afford
and you'll have no regrets

Dave Cripps
HP200LX with 64MB/Double Speed


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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:28:29 +0200
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Several people asked for it. It is something I got from Ed Keefe, I believe,
about 2 years ago. I seem to recall he mentioned he got it somewhere, modified
it and then I got it.

I put in a whole lot of changes to it, but still, it would be a stretch to
call it my own. Maybe some minor pieces of it are mine...

So here is how I use this backup batch file: Every morning at 4am an
appointment wakes this batch file. At 5am another appointment wakes up a
system macro (this one _is_ my own) which moves the appointments forward by
one day (I can adjust to skip as much as I want...) If anyone wants to see
that system macro, I\'ll have to dig it out since lately I just move the backup
manually to some specific day in the future.

Ok the batch file: First part deletes stuff I don\'t want to worry about...
Thhen calculate the environment variable which contains the yymmdd formatted
current date. The third part is just the pkzip of the files. See how I use the
today varialbe in the zip command %today%. I add some letter in front to
logically group things (bases, mail, Post/LX).

Anyone has questions, post them here, don\'t email me privately. Thanks.

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Sorry, sent just a blank reply.

<At 5am another appointment wakes up a system macro (this one _is_ my own) which
moves the appointments forward by one day>

Why do you do that? Are there not simpler ways?

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> After thinking a bit more about releasing the source to HV, I realised
> that the source to HV actually contains the API for WWW/LX, which is
> like the crown jewels to D&A, and would adversely affect them if
> released

Rod:

But haven't they already posted here publicly that they would release
API information to those interested in coding up any companion programs?
Or am I dreaming up a memory?

-Chris

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Just for your information:

My freeware DS clock driver DSPEED.COM is included in LXPIC.ZIP.
I added it to LXPIC, because it is needed for speed upgraded
palmtops to prevent flicker in the nonstandard 4-grayscale
640x200 CGA mode, which LXPIC supports.

Indeed you can use it on any speed upgraded palmtop. AFAIK it
differs from Mack's driver by using a higher frame rate, which
results in a 'crisper' screen without any remarkable flicker,
even under artificial light conditions.

DSPEED cannot switch between fast and slow. This may be a
disadvantage for some games to play, but it makes the driver
simpler, because no keyboard interrupt has to be checked.

DSPEED can be removed from memory with DSPEED/R. It's resident
code uses only a few bytes. Together with the 256 bytes COM
header, which every TSR has to carry around, the whole memory
consumption is less than 300 bytes.

In fact, there is no need of a TSR, if you never change the
screen mode. Only after a mode change, the preset values from
the BIOS have to be overwritten to fit the higher clock rate.
But because screen modes are changed so often, it is reasonable
to use a TSR which does everything automatically.

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Hi

Following on from the double speed thread, I've got a small (26K) program
from Landmark Software called MhzTest.com, which gives a realtime display of
the speed of the machine compared to an IBM XT:

In double speed it reports 5.2X  XT
and after Cntl-Shft-Del it reports 4.2X and XT.

Compared to Nortons Sysinfo which reports:
In double speed 4.4x XT
In single speed 1.2x XT

Interesting to see what a non-upsped version reports?

Dave Cripps

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>I am also an IBM.net subscriber.

Me too, Gary but I subscribe to both.

>Apparently AT&T has decided how it is going to deal with IBM.net and has
informed some of the >corporate troops and although nothing has been made
public yet an announcement is supposedly >imminent.

Wonder how they'll handle folks like me that subscribe to both halves of a
now combined service.  Did AT&T simply want a global network and IBM wanted
to sell theirs?

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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Indeed you can use it on any speed upgraded palmtop. AFAIK it differs
> from Mack's driver by using a higher frame rate, which results in a
> 'crisper' screen without any remarkable flicker, even under artificial
> light conditions.

That sounds great... perhaps you and Mack could integrate it into the
Times2 Tech speed driver so that we could still have all the cool features
like speedup/slowdown while still having a fast screen refresh?

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Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:17:54 -0400 (EDT)

08h03m54s ago ...
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Dennis Vest wrote:

> I am sorry. I should have paid more attention. I recently purchased 4 =
NIMH AA
> cells for my 200LX ($1.50 each). Can I charge them in the LX using the =
built
> in charging program? Replies off list are fine.

Yes, but it is MUCH better to use a charge control program.  NiMH
really don't like to be overcharged, and the built-in charging program
is just a timer...  The six hours won't be enough for a full charge,
and 2 or more cycles might overcharge 'em.  D&A Software makes an
excellent program called ABC/LX, and has (IIRC) a trial version on
their web page.
        http://www.dasoft.com
There's also a freeware control program (by yours truly) on SUPER.
Look for Charge-It!

The D&A program has a TSR to continuously monitor the battery and
enable charging at a user-selectable level.  Charge-It doesn't, and is
started manually to control charging.

HTH

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I just used the old Landmark Speed Test v2 on my 200LX 32mb DS

Normal speed =  9.12 MHz
Slowed speed =  8.08 MmHz (using Ctrl - Shft - Del

the above figures mean the apparent speed when compared to a 6 MHz IBM-AT
(286)

BTW - this program shows a CPU clock speed of 11.908 MHz normal and 4.431
MHz slowed



On my 200LX 2mb original:

Normal speed =  4.50 MHz
Slowed speed =  N/A

the above figures mean the apparent speed when compared to a 6 MHz IBM-AT
(286)

BTW - this program shows a CPU clock speed of 5.907 MHz


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> Hi
>
> Following on from the double speed thread, I've got a small (26K) program
> from Landmark Software called MhzTest.com, which gives a realtime
> display of
> the speed of the machine compared to an IBM XT:
>
> In double speed it reports 5.2X  XT
> and after Cntl-Shft-Del it reports 4.2X and XT.
>
> Compared to Nortons Sysinfo which reports:
> In double speed 4.4x XT
> In single speed 1.2x XT
>
> Interesting to see what a non-upsped version reports?
>
> Dave Cripps
>
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I'd be interested in the cost and quality as well...and also the turnaround
time.

I haven't tried this service, but probably half the reason I use a digital is
being able to view the images immediately (for which I could use a Polaroid
camera) and the other half being so I could email or edit the image (for which
your poor man's solution would work).

OTOH, if a photo lab offered 1 hour turnaround on film to digital files at the
same discounted prices as for prints, I'd probably consider that option.
However, the services I've seen appear to turn around the images on the order of
days, not hours, and I don't recall prices as being cheap.

I could use a Polaroid camera and then scan the images I want... but Polaroid
film is expensive and the results usually don't compare to 35mm.

What I'd like is to be able to download, say 24 shots, from the camera and
provide them to some service for print development for $5 (that's how much I pay
at a 1 hour discount photo developer).

A question for the Canon A5 people (I know you're out there)... now that prices
are dropping, I may want to replace my Konica Q-mini with the A5 (both seem to
work well with the LX).  Has anyone done a comparison between the A5 and say the
Nikon 900 Coolpix?  I like the A5 cuz it's smaller... but anyone have problems
with it? Any good prices seen lately?  Thanks.

- Longden





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I've been waiting to see someone comment about the poor man's solution to
getting high quality digital pictures.

Someone mentioned that digital cameras did not produce images as good as
those cameras using film.

Several film processing companies offer to process your 35mm film and
provide paper prints or digital file copies on disk.

Has anyone tried this?  If so, how was the quality?

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> In double speed it reports 5.2X  XT
> and after Cntl-Shft-Del it reports 4.2X and XT.

It is only a software trick with INT 08, so the speed test type programs
probably won't be affect as much.

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sure, if they're NiMH, why not?
where did you get them for $1.50?
sound cheep.

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I have noticed that whenever I am using PE and pop up LXPro, that the =
amount
of memory reported by LXPro is always 32752. This is regardless of which =
SC
session I'm in or if I'm working in a MaxDOS session. I can shell to DOS
from PE and do a mem and it reports the correct and much higher memory
value. It's not really a big deal, I was just curious if anyone else had
noticed this behavior?

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1999-06-17-05:13:59 Dennis Vest:
> I recently purchased 4 NIMH AA cells for my 200LX ($1.50 each). Can I charge
> them in the LX using the built in charging program?

Yup.

First, basics of the LX charging system. In the Setup program, you can tell it
you have Alkaline batteries, in which case all charging is disabled; or you
can tell it you have NiCds, in which case you can tell it whether or not to
enable charging. If charging is enabled, the stock, as-shipped LX will go into
a 6-hour charge cycle at 100mA, then drop down to 45mA trickle charging. This
cycle was set to be able to take the lowest-capacity commonly-available (a few
years ago) AA NiCds, c. 400mAH, to somewhere near full-charge before dropping
to trickle. (Numbers taken from batset documentation, available from
S.U.P.E.R.).

Starting with dead (brand new) NiMH cells, put the LX on the AC adaptor,
remove the old batteries, insert the new (dead) ones, and enable charging.
Leave it alone for at least 6 hours. In fact, the batteries are probably
plenty big enough to want two full 6-hour charge cycles, if not more, so you
can reset the quick-charge timer by unplugging and replugging the AC adaptor
after 6 hours.

Now you've got charged batteries, and the question comes up, how do you
maintain them? Different people have found different solutions. The one I've
settled on, works great for me (first with 850mAH Radio Shack "High-Capacity"
NiCds, then with 1200mAH Radio Shack NiMH's) is to always and only trickle
charge, never high-current charge, and keep the LX plugged in whenever I'm at
my desk or asleep. So I use batset, from S.U.P.E.R.; I have in autoexec.bat:

        batset /c/t=00:01

which enables charging (/c) and sets the high-current charge time down to one
minute (the shortest it supports).

-Bennett

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:07:08 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

I'm thinking about upgrading my palmtop to DS.

But I have a few questions:

When I boot the machine, the DS driver
disappears off the memory. So it's not loaded after booting.

What's then with the screen? Is it readable? (the boot up messages from
BIOS services, A: and B: driver, and the Esc-On self test for example)

Or is this all not readable (usable) until the DS driver is loaded by
th econfig.sys?

And: how much RAM does the DS driver need when loaded? Is it possible
to use the palmtop without the driver at all after the upgrade?

Is it possible to switch somehow between two quartz chips (the old and
a new one)?

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:36:26 -0800
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              patrickwest@USWEST.NET
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Folks,

My brother, Peter, just got a compaq palmtop computer. It runs WinCE 1x

Does anyone know where I might find a cheap copy of ACT! for WinCE?

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:51:33 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: PE macros for HTML tags
Comments: cc: mchem1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU, malkajef@orthohelp.com

I use PE to write HTML pages for several websites. To simpify
entry, I have written a set of macros to generate many of the
common html tags. Nothing complex, but it saves me a lot of
keystrokes. The macros, and a description are available at

http://www.technoir.nu:8080/hplx/htmlmac.htm

--
Mike Kopplin  kopplin@primenet.com
Is that a Webserver in your pocket?
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:19:58 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:36:26 -0800, Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET> =
wrote:

> My brother, Peter, just got a compaq palmtop computer.

Note to self: Remember to mention Patrick's brother in my prayers tonight
<g>!

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:30:43 -0400
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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:37:05 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:

>> This adds CPU cycles, it doesn't save power or batteries, right?  I
>> wish there was a way it did . . .
>
>You could always try the way I did about a year and a half ago-- wire up
>two crystals, one 1x, one 2x, and a switch to change between them.  Maybe
>with some extra support circuitry it wouldn't lock up the palmtop quite so
>often.  <g>

That actually works?   As you probably know, the crystal oscillator
is tuned to oscillate by using a very small value capacitor.  Adding wires
(and a switch) would increase the apparent value of the tuning capacitor
to a point where I would be surprised that the oscillator would (oscillate)....

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:34:00 -0400
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Martin,

> I think you have to either sit on the fence and wait for the next best
> thing or go out and seek the best deal you can get..it's the same
> "problem" in the "pcworld" always something better around the
> corner..

OK - I'm patient enough as I do not shoot too many pictures
anymore. No need to have all gadgets of this world.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:59:53 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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This is my problem:

In my never ending story to strip my post.cfg file I have lately
sent my signature as an attachment. This way I have saved some space in
the post.cfg..but

when sending messages to newsgroups I have noticed that when I view a
message I have sent I get something like this:

Re:subject

Text written by me

_________________
a:\sig.doc
_________________

instead of the sig people get a the above..and some more junk..

I have read in the helpfile that some "brain-dead emailclients assume
each message part but the first as an binary attachment"

When I send messages to newsgroups do I have to specify the sigfile in
the setup..how can I know what newsgroups I can send my sig as an
attachments and which newsgroups I can not? I do not belive that it
goes "wrong" in every newsgroup..

Thanks in advance
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Mvh/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
Mailer:Hp200Lx Palmtop using Post/LX
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:08:33 -0400
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              Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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I have (with some help from the list) downloaded ToDo.exm and am quite
impressed with the functionality.  I'm surprised that no one has (to my
knowledge) come up with a similar 2-D format for task lists.

I have two questions:

1.  Does anyone know what programming language ToDo.exm is written in?
It runs quite fast even on my 1MB single speed.

2.  Can you run the .exm on the PC through CPACK or other utility?  I
have a Win95 Pentium machine.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

L. Brooks

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:58:22 -0500
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With scanners available for less than $100 (I paid $45 for mine, shipped, used)
and $3.50 48-hour processing from Walmart for 4x6, thats the cheapest way to
get something on the web. If you want images of jewelry, some people put the
object directly on the scanner. If I want an image of something, I use my SLR
in daylight in open shade - tweaking it digitally if necessary.

The Canon A5  zoom is $350, the Nikon $800? The Nikon will produce better
8x10 prints. But for web images and 4x6 prints, 780x1024 of the A5 is plenty.
640x480 is enough for web pictures unless you want a full screen screen saver
or crop heavily. If you are into taking pictures of people, the Canon has good
skin tone and the 28mm wide angle is very useful at group meets.

Agfa is bringing out (in June ??) the ?? Smile, 640x480, flash, no CF card, runs
on 2 AA, for I think less than $150, no macro or LCD. You can use photograpic
close-up lens to get macro (use open shade).

But with any of camera, sometime you are going to take a picture and when
you see the image, you will say "I wish I had used my SLR".



Longden Loo wrote:

> I'd be interested in the cost and quality as well...and also the turnaround
> time.
>
> I haven't tried this service, but probably half the reason I use a digital is
> being able to view the images immediately (for which I could use a Polaroid
> camera) and the other half being so I could email or edit the image (for which
> your poor man's solution would work).
>
> OTOH, if a photo lab offered 1 hour turnaround on film to digital files at the
> same discounted prices as for prints, I'd probably consider that option.
> However, the services I've seen appear to turn around the images on the order of
> days, not hours, and I don't recall prices as being cheap.
>
> I could use a Polaroid camera and then scan the images I want... but Polaroid
> film is expensive and the results usually don't compare to 35mm.
>
> What I'd like is to be able to download, say 24 shots, from the camera and
> provide them to some service for print development for $5 (that's how much I pay
> at a 1 hour discount photo developer).
>
> A question for the Canon A5 people (I know you're out there)... now that prices
> are dropping, I may want to replace my Konica Q-mini with the A5 (both seem to
> work well with the LX).  Has anyone done a comparison between the A5 and say the
> Nikon 900 Coolpix?  I like the A5 cuz it's smaller... but anyone have problems
> with it? Any good prices seen lately?  Thanks.
>
> - Longden
>
> "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> on 06/16/99 06:28:46 PM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Fluff: Digital Camera
>
> I've been waiting to see someone comment about the poor man's solution to
> getting high quality digital pictures.
>
> Someone mentioned that digital cameras did not produce images as good as
> those cameras using film.
>
> Several film processing companies offer to process your 35mm film and
> provide paper prints or digital file copies on disk.
>
> Has anyone tried this?  If so, how was the quality?
>
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:43:35 -0700
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              Don Evans <donaldevans@PTLOMA.EDU>
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Curtis,

     Just out of curiosity... what is the number of the Microsoft game
you mentioned as unsolvable?
     And while we're on the subject... how is a FreeCell game's number
related to its initial arrangement?  Is there an algorithm for this?

     Thanks.
        Don Evans.



At 03:42 AM 6/17/99 GMT, you wrote:
>
>No, there is one game in the Microsoft version of FreeCell that is
>unsolvable.
>
>--
>Curtis Cameron
>WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
>
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Bruce Francis wrote:

> That actually works?  As you probably know, the crystal oscillator is
> tuned to oscillate by using a very small value capacitor.  Adding
> wires (and a switch) would increase the apparent value of the tuning
> capacitor to a point where I would be surprised that the oscillator
> would (oscillate)....

Oh, it works, all right.  Switching back and forth would probably require
a new version of the speed driver that can switch itself on and off,
though.  And there's always the problem that it tends to lock the machine
up badly.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:27:26 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:19:46 -0400 (EDT)

02h12m38s ago ...
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> When I boot the machine, the DS driver
> disappears off the memory. So it's not loaded after booting.
>
> What's then with the screen? Is it readable? (the boot up messages from
> BIOS services, A: and B: driver, and the Esc-On self test for example)

Yep, at least it is on mine.  It's shifted a little to the right, and
there's a strip of garbage along the left edge, but text is readable.
YMMV

> And: how much RAM does the DS driver need when loaded? Is it possible
> to use the palmtop without the driver at all after the upgrade?

512 bytes on mine.  Haven't tried to run without the driver.

> Is it possible to switch somehow between two quartz chips (the old and
> a new one)?

I defer to David about this one  8-)

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:28:04 -0700
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> > Is it possible to switch somehow between two quartz chips (the old and
> > a new one)?
>
> I defer to David about this one  8-)

The short answer is no.  The long answer is yes, but it's so unstable that
you risk corrupting your data, erasing it all, etc., so it's not worth it.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:37:05 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Chris,

> > After thinking a bit more about releasing the source to HV, I realised
> > that the source to HV actually contains the API for WWW/LX, which is
> > like the crown jewels to D&A, and would adversely affect them if
> > released
>
> Rod:
>
> But haven't they already posted here publicly that they would release
> API information to those interested in coding up any companion programs?
> Or am I dreaming up a memory?

You are not dreaming. Rod suggested a _public_ release of the HV code.
Embedded in the code is the API.

We agreed to give the API to _specific persons_ who are developing an add-on
provided it does not harm our own product base (or plans we have) and
provided suitable agreements are in place. We never suggested a _public_
release.

See the difference?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:36:52 -0700
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> Sorry, sent just a blank reply.
>
> <At 5am another appointment wakes up a system macro (this one _is_ my own) which
> moves the appointments forward by one day>
>
> Why do you do that? Are there not simpler ways?

Not sure what you are asking. It seems like a logical thing to do - I run the
backup first, then I move the appointment to the next day (date) when it
should run.

Doing it in that sequence (backup then move the appointment) seems essential.
You see, if I move the appointment out to another date, the backup would not
run. :-)

Is this what you asked? Maybe not. Let me guess at other possibilities:

1. I do the backups so that vital information is preserved in case it is
somehow corrupted. I am not sure there is an easier way to backup the
information than to back it up. I have yet to find a computerised way that
will pull out the PCMCIA under program control, stick it into the notebook,
and copy it to the hard drive on the notebook as a backup. Unfortunately, that
is still a manual process for me. (I guess I am a Stegosaurus ...)

2. The backups are done on a regular basis, so that when something does go
bad, I can restore the data from a fairly fresh backup copy, and if there is
a loss, it is minimal. There is an entire philosophy behind it, simple,
though: It says: The backups should be frequent enough so that they are always
more frequent than the amount of time / work required to resotre a loss since
the previous backup. So if your tolerance for redoing work is short, say you
are not prepared to redo 20 minutes' worth of work, than you should back up
every 19 minutes. If you can tolerate redoing 2 days' worth of work, then back
up just before 2 days pass.

3. At 5 am I usually am asleep and do not use the palmtop, so it seems like a
good time to do automatic work.

4. It is easier to let the machine move the appointment if it is possible to
make it repeatable. I recently stopped because I had several night-long
sessions which meant disabling the forward macro, and I have just been too
lazy to reset it.

5. Well, I am out of guesses... So if you have a suggestion how to make htings
easier, please let me know. I just want to make sure you understand what _I_
am doing and what _I_ need, so you don't waste your time creating something
for me that does not do anything useful for me.

All the best,

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Date:         Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:49:28 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote
> does anyone know if the quartz for the Double Speed upgrade is a
> regular quartz that I can get at a 'normal' electronics store?

As Peniel indicated, the crystal you require is a frequency of 31.673550
MHz. You must also ensure that a crystal with a fundamental frequency of
this is used and not a 3rd overtone crystal otherwise the LX will use
actually run at 1/3rd of 31.6....MHz - i.e. slower than normal.. A further
problem is the case size, the case used in the 200LX is particularly small,
although you can get away with using a UM1 style case which is bigger.

A while back I investigated the supply of a suitable crystal and could not
purchase one anywhere off the shelf, including from trade suppliers, so in
the end I had some custom crystals made which cost quite a bit more and were
only possible in UM1 size.

There is a doublespeed driver available if you do get a crystal though. You
can use Stefan Peichels DSPEED.COM driver in AUTOEXEC.BAT to solve baud
rate, display skew, stopwatch/RTC & alarm sound speed errors. This is part
of the LXPIC.ZIP on SUPER (Thanks Peniel for your pointer to this when I was
first investigating doing my own DSpeed upgrade)

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:43:18 -0500
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Could someone please re-post the URL for the Todo.exm download site?

TIA,
Steve

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Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> Wrote:

Could someone please re-post the URL for the Todo.exm download site?


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Hi Steve,

ToDo Board 2.1 (TODO21.LZH) can be found at:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm



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Qman...
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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:50:07 -0400
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>I would like to purchase a RS 232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use my
200
>to access email. I can handle the aspects of that part of the process, but
>how do I get the computers to talk the same language? I remember Procomm
>having tons of terminal emulations, but I do not have that program anymore.
>>>Is there a program that would emulate the IBM 3151 (IBMs web site was no
>>help) What would I have to do to get this work?

>What are you connecting to? Mainframe (3270) ?
>or AS/400 (5250)?
>
>Patrick West


Well actually I am connecting to a supermarket checkout controller. It is an
IBM box w/ Pentium Prom running a OS called FlexOS. It has the same syntax
as OS/2 on most of the command line stuff... written by IBM sometime ago.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:56:19 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I just vaguely remembered that there were some problems
> mentioned on the list. Maybe they were not really ds-related
> and/or could be solved, I could be completely wrong. I merely
> want to be sure before I might upgrade my machine.

I think the 1 problem that cannot be fixed is there is no way to
run the built in diags with the ds driver loaded.  Without the
driver the display quality varies from machine to machine from
terrible to ok.  (This is heresay as I only have 1x machine.)

I've also seen some references to problems with various PCMCIA
cards.

I've been putting off getting a 32 or 64 meg 200lx but I've
decided that I probably will NOT get the double speed feature.
Speed is nice but the rock solid reliability of the 200lx in ALL
applications is more important (to me).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:56:23 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Qmodem also did some terminal emulation.  There used to be some
shareware 'test drive' versions back in the days of BBSes.

Cheers... Russ

> ProComm Plus (DOS) is still "on the shelves" at places like CompUSA and
> Micro Center.  Usually it's priced quite high ($100US).  I just looked and
> the IBM 3161 terminal is emulated (I don't know if it is significantly
> different from the 3151).  I use ProComm Plus on my palmtop at least daily
> and it works just fine.  I primarily use VT-100 emulation so I can't speak
> from first-hand experience about the IBM emulations.  If you can stand the
> price, and 3161 emulation will do, you can't beat ProComm's performance.  :)

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:03:08 -0700
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> I've been putting off getting a 32 or 64 meg 200lx but I've decided
> that I probably will NOT get the double speed feature. Speed is nice
> but the rock solid reliability of the 200lx in ALL applications is
> more important (to me).

Personally, I've not experienced any reliability problems at all with the
2X upgrade.  And the usability increase is incredible-- more than one
might suspect when one is using a single-speed palmtop.  You might want to
give it a try and if you don't like it the crystal is easily swapped back
out.  Then again, you may not.  But I've found the speed upgrade to be
very reliable, and I run a wide variety of applications...

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:19:42 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Andreas,

> What should work on all keyboards is starting a selection with ESC =
SPACE.

It works, though needs getting accustomed to. THANKS !

> You can reduce the space between the lines (leading) in the View menu.
> But much more you can get by using Palrun with the -v option, which
> runs the whole thing in VGA resolution.

I have been running the -v option from the beginning. Maximum
lines is 19 and the bottom half of the screen, in fact, 60%,
is black. There seems to be no fix for that.

...they ask and ask and ask and keep asking...., so, one more:

Is there one of your clever program lines available to set the
default screen to the smallest letter/space size ?
I have to push 8 buttons every time I return to PE !

Thanks again for your good advice !
Winfried

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:29:32 -0400
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does anyone know is version 3.0 of Turbo C++ works on the palmtop?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:33:36 -0700
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> does anyone know is version 3.0 of Turbo C++ works on the palmtop?

Nope, it won't run; it uses some kind of DOS extender software that won't
load on the palmtop.  Borland C++ 2.0 or Turbo C++ 1.0 will run find,
though.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:45:17 +0000
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> I have noticed that whenever I am using PE and pop up LXPro, that the =
amount
> of memory reported by LXPro is always 32752.  This is regardless of =
which SC
> session I'm in or if I'm working in a MaxDOS session.

that means, while PE is running, only 32752 are left unused.

> I can shell to DOS from PE and do a mem and it reports the correct and =
much
> higher memory value.

and if you invoke LxPro while you are in the DOS shell, you
will see that it reports the same amount of free memory like
MEM does, because PE releases some memory while shelling to DOS.

The available free memory reported by LxPro should be as reliable as
MEM or CHKDSK reports, which also means, that it is not reliable
under SysMgr, because SysMgr uses another memory organization
than DOS.

I implemented the free memory feature long ago to let you find
out, how much memory an application uses, so that you can put
the appropriate KB value behind the '|' in SysMgr's ...&more.

But after the appearance of SC and MaxDos, this feature is
more and more obsolete.

Stefan

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:55:01 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Sigs are clearly a matter of taste. I hate them as I find them both
useless and boring. Useless, as the one person in a million that
might want to know something about me (phone, address, ...) will
surely be able to write me at my EMail address and I can send them
the information, and boring because sigs often contain ASCII art
that looks like gibberish in NetScape/Explorer's proportional fonts
or `sayings' that might be cute once but surely become tedious if
the poster writes much.

Some Newsgroups have `Sig rules' that conflict with those in other
newsgroups. I think this is likely to get worse. For example, some
companies are starting to _require_ their employees to use long sigs
that contain `legal disclaimers' that really begin to soak up some
bandwidth.

I guess the one think a sig can do that I find (very occasionally)
useful, is give a `one-click' route to a poster's web page, if they
have one. Obviously a web page URL isn't automatically available
anywhere else. The web page can, of course, contain whatever facts
the poster wants to release.

So my personal taste indicates `shorter is better'. I'd only use a
sig if the newsgroup `required' it, or if I had a web page URL that
contained something generally useful. And if any newsgroups that I read
did require them, I'd join any attempt to change the charter to
`un-require' them.

Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> This is my problem:
>
> In my never ending story to strip my post.cfg file I have lately
> sent my signature as an attachment. This way I have saved some space in
> the post.cfg..but
>
> when sending messages to newsgroups I have noticed that when I view a
> message I have sent I get something like this:
>
> Re:subject
>
> Text written by me
>
> _________________
> a:\sig.doc
> _________________
>
> instead of the sig people get a the above..and some more junk..
>
> I have read in the helpfile that some "brain-dead emailclients assume
> each message part but the first as an binary attachment"
>
> When I send messages to newsgroups do I have to specify the sigfile in
> the setup..how can I know what newsgroups I can send my sig as an
> attachments and which newsgroups I can not? I do not belive that it
> goes "wrong" in every newsgroup..
>
> Thanks in advance

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:07:58 GMT
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Hi all,

Since FreeCell seems to be a favorite, I've just enhanced it and
uploaded the new version to the site http://cameron.hplx.net.

New features include:

1) It adds the ability to write your moves to a text file, so you can
refer to it later or e-mail a game's solution to someone else. Hitting
the 'W' key at any point in a game will replay the game up to that
point, while writing the file in a human-readable format.=20

2) You now can enter a comment to be stored in the .HST file, so you
could find the really challenging games later.=20

3) If you let the LX randomly choose a game for you, it now checks the
.HST file and will not pick a game you've played before.=20

4) When starting a new game, you can have the LX scan through the .HST
file to find a game that was previously tried but not solved. Note
that if an unsolved game was later solved with a previous version of
=46reeCell, it will show in the unsolved list until it's been solved
with this version. If you want to avoid this, you can edit the .HST
file with a text editor and delete the "not solved" games which were
later solved.=20

5) You can easily find all the cards of a particular value by hitting
the number key for it (1 through 9, T for Ten, and J, Q, and K). All
the cards of that value will be highlighted until you hit another key.
Because of this, the X key now quits the game instead of Q.

Have fun,

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:56:39 +0930
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Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

"R. Christopher Lott writes:
> But haven't they already posted here publicly that they would release
> API information to those interested in coding up any companion programs?
> Or am I dreaming up a memory?

You're dreaming :-)  Releasing the API could potentially be suicidal
for D&A, so there is no way they would (or should) do it.

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Subject:      Re: ToDo.exm - What Programming Language?
Comments: To: Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>

Loran Brooks writes:
> I have (with some help from the list) downloaded ToDo.exm and am quite
> impressed with the functionality.  I'm surprised that no one has (to my
> knowledge) come up with a similar 2-D format for task lists.
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1.  Does anyone know what programming language ToDo.exm is written in?
> It runs quite fast even on my 1MB single speed.

It's open-source freeware C code - like all good programs ;-)

You can get the source code from the same .jp site.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:07:28 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Since FreeCell seems to be a favorite, I've just enhanced it and
> uploaded the new version to the site http://cameron.hplx.net.

It seems that something isn't working with the above URL (as of 8PM
Central time).  I was able to get the latest by typing your aol URL.
Thought someone ought to know.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:18:09 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Oh, it works, all right.  Switching back and forth would probably require
> a new version of the speed driver that can switch itself on and off,
> though.  And there's always the problem that it tends to lock the machine
> up badly.

Currently my driver has the following capabilities:

  Cleans up the screen for every mode change
  Changes the DRAM and PCMCIA port timings to the fastest possible
  Changes the serial timeouts
  Allows the slowdown and speed up toggle
  In slowdown mode it allows you to change the speed up and down
  Allows you to toggle turning the screen on/off
  It include the Killmsg code to save a few hundred bytes when running both
  Has a toggle for turning the card battery low message on/off
  *Checks to see if the machine is actually speed upgraded before loading
  *Allows you to toggle between the driver not running or running
  Gets rid of the black flash of the screen when turning it on

Since the DRAM timings are pushed higher than any other driver I know it
adds about a 10% speed difference over other drivers that don't do that, but
it means I have to correct for the battery voltage readings at a lower DRAM
speed.

The items marked with an * could be used when switching between crystals if
it can be made to work.  I don't recommend it as it permanently damaged
David's processor on that machine.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:23:16 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> actually run at 1/3rd of 31.6....MHz - i.e. slower than normal.. A further
> problem is the case size, the case used in the 200LX is particularly
small,
> although you can get away with using a UM1 style case which is bigger.

For the Times2 Tech double speed upgrade we purchase crystals matching the
original case in the HP200LX.

> There is a doublespeed driver available if you do get a crystal though.
You
> can use Stefan Peichels DSPEED.COM driver in AUTOEXEC.BAT to solve baud
> rate, display skew, stopwatch/RTC & alarm sound speed errors. This is part
> of the LXPIC.ZIP on SUPER (Thanks Peniel for your pointer to this when I
was
> first investigating doing my own DSpeed upgrade)

I don't believe Stefan's driver handles the alarm speed (Stefan please chime
in if I am wrong).  My upgrade does handle it with a separate driver called
SPDALRM.TSR which is loaded by System Manager.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:28:29 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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I have tried Andreas's new IrDA prog on my desktop and it seams to work
quite ok. I acctualy had two desktops and they both were able to see
the hp at the same time.

Have someone on this list actualy used IrDA for something. I am a bit
confused with the different options and how and when to use them.
What do i do with the server, client, obex(is this what the PalmPilot
uses?) etc.

BTW: The IrDA for WWW/LX works quite nice with my father in
laws Ericsson SH888.


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:58:22 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Personally, I've not experienced any reliability problems at all with the
> 2X upgrade.  And the usability increase is incredible-- more than one

I know everyone has great things to say about 2X speed; it's not
that easy to go against such overwheming opinion.  :-)

> might suspect when one is using a single-speed palmtop.  You might want to
> give it a try and if you don't like it the crystal is easily swapped back
> out.

Interesting idea, I hadn't thought about undoing an upgrade.

Hal, if you're reading, how much would Thadeus charge to undo a
speed upgrade if I decided I preferred the simplicity of a single
speed?

Thanks for the idea David!

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:03:43 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Connectivity pack

Stan
Tried again with 384K on an old Toshiba laptop.
No go.  Hmmmmmmmmmm
It starts notes and hangs.

yor pal al..................................


>The CPACK applications use the same memory model as they do on
>the palmtop, so they only know about the lower 640K of DOS RAM
>and that is it.  They won't use Expanded otr Extended memory.
>

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Brian,

Thanks.  I think I might have that somewhere.  On the road at the moment. =
 Andreas, Avi & all seem to have a fix soon.  =3DBob=3D

> Version 2.0 compile date 12 Oct 98.

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In a message dated 6/17/1999 05:56:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rlbrooks@IBM.NET writes:

> I've been putting off getting a 32 or 64 meg 200lx but I've
>  decided that I probably will NOT get the double speed feature.
>  Speed is nice but the rock solid reliability of the 200lx in ALL
>  applications is more important (to me).
>

I recommend that you think again.  I have 2 double speed 200LX's.  I've used
one or the other every day for over 3 years, and NEVER had a problem which I
could trace to the double speed feature.  It is a much nicer interface.  I
was surprised how much difference it made.

Mine are Times2Tech mod's. I can't speak for the others, but Mack's work is
impeccable.  Highly recommended.  (And I have nothing to do with T2T, except
for being a happy customer.)

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:58:03 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      ÝFLUFF¨Now that is a small computer

Has anyone seen the iButtons?  (http://www.ibutton.com)

These are tiny little Java machines roughly the size of a button-cell
battery.  I bumped into them when I found an article about an ENIGMA
emulator that runs on an iButton set in a ring - quite an impressive
decoder ring.  (http://www.javaworld.com/jw-08-1998/jw-08-indepth.html)

I know it is off-topic but I thought they'd be of interest considering
the true artistry that would be required to make a useful utility fit
within a button-size computer.  It is the same artistry demonstrated by
the many excellent people who code great things in the tiny space of an
HP200lx.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - Thanks to all for the help with the reformating utility.  I'm
experimenting with every suggestion returned.

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Al,
I live outside Orlando. I visited my friendly Skycraft store. :-)
Marked Sony. No solder tabs.

Dennis

hobchi@JUNO.COM writes:

<< sure, if they're NiMH, why not?
 where did you get them for $1.50? >>

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:07:33 GMT
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Don Evans wrote:

>     Just out of curiosity... what is the number of the Microsoft game
>you mentioned as unsolvable?

It's 11982. There was a website about Microsoft's FreeCell (I just
checked and it's no longer there) which told more than you ever
thought anyone would take time to write. There was a project where
they assigned a block of numbers to each of many people to try to
solve them all. This was the only one that's never been solved.

They even found special games such as the one where all 52 cards would
be on the board until the very last move (requires four aces at the
top of one column when it's first dealt). They would also play many of
the games without using any cells at all.

There are ~32000 games in Microsoft FreeCell, and one million in the
HPLX version, so the numbers of the games don't correspond at all.

>     And while we're on the subject... how is a FreeCell game's number
>related to its initial arrangement?  Is there an algorithm for this?

Yes, but it's too complicated to do you any good. The distribution of
cards is determined by a software pseudo-random number generator,
which comes up with a sequence of numbers, each of which is determined
by its predecessor. For example, the simple one included in some
documentation with the HP 41C calculator was to take a number between
zero and one (the seed), multiply it by 9821, then add 0.211327, then
take just the fractional part of the result, so you get another number
between zero and one (try it). Ideally, the sequence of numbers you
get has no distinguishable pattern.

Most RNG's are more complicated. For the HPLX FreeCell, I used Turbo
Pascal 7's built-in one. I'm sure for MS FreeCell, they used MS C. I
have no idea what the algorithms used are, but they seem to be pretty
good. Then with the sequence of these numbers, you decide how to pick
cards. I use an algorithm where I pick a position of the deck by
multiplying the number by 52, then pick a second position, then swap
the cards in those two positions. Do this hundreds of times and you
have a well-shuffled deck.

-Curtis Cameron

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:36:37 -0400
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Mack and all,

> Just doing a directory or going in the More icon screen, you should see =
a
> major difference in speed.

Confirm Shift+Ctrl+Del changes speed and results in SIGNIFICANT
difference :-)


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:36:40 -0400
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Reinhard,

> I don't have double speed, but from time to time I am wondering
> whether I should get it installed. Now I hear eventually that
> some software does not work with double speed.

Go for it and you will never regret. No problem since 1 year
other than me crashing the machine on my fault.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> I have noticed that whenever I am using PE and pop up LXPro, that the amount
> of memory reported by LXPro is always 32752.

I wonder why. I think it should be zero because PE grabs ALL memory it
can get (and releases all except the minimum before shelling to DOS).

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:20:22 -0700
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Thank you very much.  This game has kept me busy in many a boring situation.

Dan





Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Since FreeCell seems to be a favorite, I've just enhanced it and
> uploaded the new version to the site http://cameron.hplx.net.
>
> New features include:
>
> 1) It adds the ability to write your moves to a text file, so you can
> refer to it later or e-mail a game's solution to someone else. Hitting
> the 'W' key at any point in a game will replay the game up to that
> point, while writing the file in a human-readable format.
>
> 2) You now can enter a comment to be stored in the .HST file, so you
> could find the really challenging games later.
>
> 3) If you let the LX randomly choose a game for you, it now checks the
> .HST file and will not pick a game you've played before.
>
> 4) When starting a new game, you can have the LX scan through the .HST
> file to find a game that was previously tried but not solved. Note
> that if an unsolved game was later solved with a previous version of
> FreeCell, it will show in the unsolved list until it's been solved
> with this version. If you want to avoid this, you can edit the .HST
> file with a text editor and delete the "not solved" games which were
> later solved.
>
> 5) You can easily find all the cards of a particular value by hitting
> the number key for it (1 through 9, T for Ten, and J, Q, and K). All
> the cards of that value will be highlighted until you hit another key.
> Because of this, the X key now quits the game instead of Q.
>
> Have fun,
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron
> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
>
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Do any versioons of CPACK or HP PIM DOS software have the filer program as
a component?

I'm interested in using Transfile 200 to transfer files from a desktop to a
HP1000CX, which does not have the built-in PIMS.  I understand Transfile
200 requires Filer on the palmtop to be able to link.

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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> > What should work on all keyboards is starting a selection with ESC SPACE.
>
> It works, though needs getting accustomed to.

Certainly a bit clumsy, but at least it works on all keyboards (that
have an ESC key). You might want to experiment what keys exist on your
keyboard and assign that sequence to something more convenient using a
PE macro.

> I have been running the -v option from the beginning. Maximum
> lines is 19 and the bottom half of the screen, in fact, 60%,
> is black.

What version of PE do you use? Support for VGA was introduced about a
year or two ago. If it does not automatically use the full screen, you
most probably have an older version of PE.

> Is there one of your clever program lines available to set the
> default screen to the smallest letter/space size ?

Check out the configuration file PE.CFG:

ÝDisplay¨
; startup font: 0=small 1=middle 2=large
Zoom = 0
; amount of extra space between lines in pixels
Leading = 1

> I have to push 8 buttons every time I return to PE !

You might want to try the macro feature of PE.

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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> Have someone on this list actualy used IrDA for something.

I use it to send and receive phone book entries (vCard format) and
appointment book entries (vCalendar format) to and from my Nokia 8810
GSM phone.

And for testing <G>.

Some uploming software that is currently being tested will be able to
make use of IR.EXE.

> obex(is this what the PalmPilot
> uses?) etc.

I guess so. If somebody owns a PalPilot, I would be interested if that
works.

> BTW: The IrDA for WWW/LX works quite nice with my father in
> laws Ericsson SH888.

Actually, IR.EXE shares the IrDA module with WWW/LX.

Andreas

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Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Actually, IR.EXE shares the IrDA module with WWW/LX.

Is there any API issues that would prevent the release of the IR.EXE
source code ?  That would be a great library for other developers to be
able to use to produce more great products for the palmtop ...


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Rod Whitby wrote:
> Is there any API issues that would prevent the release of the IR.EXE
> source code ?

I believe that IrDA is becoming a significant issue in the near future
and thus a IrDA library (I don't think there is another one available
for DOS?) could become a valuable asset.

I already made IR.EXE (which is actually a part of WWW/LX) freeware
instead of simply saying: If you want IrDA support: purchase WWW/LX!

I would highly appreciate if you directed further similar requests to
D&A directly instead of putting us under public pressure.

Anyway, I will certainly think twice before making any further
products (that are related to D&A Software Inc.) freeware :-(

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:04:47 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 17 Jun 1999 15:54:25 -0700, DNess@HOME.COM (David Ness) wrote:

> Sigs are clearly a matter of taste. I hate them as I find them both
> useless and boring. Useless, as the one person in a million that
> might want to know something about me (phone, address, ...) will
> surely be able to write me at my EMail address and I can send them
> the information, and boring because sigs often contain ASCII art
> that looks like gibberish in NetScape/Explorer's proportional fonts
> or `sayings' that might be cute once but surely become tedious if
> the poster writes much.

You are entitled to your opinion. I too do not like Ascii art and big
sigs. But I like to see in the sig where people are situated.. And I
think it is rude not to have some sort of sig where you at least state
your name because people have sometimes peculiar emailadresses...


> Some Newsgroups have `Sig rules' that conflict with those in other
> newsgroups. I think this is likely to get worse. For example, some
> companies are starting to _require_ their employees to use long sigs
> that contain `legal disclaimers' that really begin to soak up some
> bandwidth.

Regarding bandwith. If I want to know some additional info about you I
have to write a new mail to you and ask for it. That is also waste of
bandwidth if you ask me.

And one more thing when we are talking of bandwidth. You have sent this
reply to my orginal posting as an CC to my emailaccount too. That is
also waste of bandwidth. If I post a question on any newsgroup I prefer
to read the replies in the newsgroup and not as email.

That is because I get my email forwarded to my cellular phone and I get
9 sms for every email. That is of course my choice, but I think it is
not necessary to send a copy to the private email in addition to the
newsgroup because I will read the replies anyway in the newsgroup..


> I guess the one think a sig can do that I find (very occasionally)
> useful, is give a `one-click' route to a poster's web page, if they
> have one. Obviously a web page URL isn't automatically available
> anywhere else. The web page can, of course, contain whatever facts
> the poster wants to release.
>
> So my personal taste indicates `shorter is better'. I'd only use a
> sig if the newsgroup `required' it, or if I had a web page URL that
> contained something generally useful. And if any newsgroups that I read
> did require them, I'd join any attempt to change the charter to
> `un-require' them.
>
> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> >
-----snipped alot------
here I asked if their is some differnce in the way I send the sig
as an attachment to newsgroups or to email..

Well this reply did not help me in my problem with the sigs..but I
guess we could use a "sig-good or bad" discussion..
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Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:56:59 +0200
Reply-To:     Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@snafu.de>
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TERRENCE UNGHOONG CHUN wrote:
>
> How about a way to list the most recently added icons, for those of us who
> have visited the site a few times already?

Done. Check out http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons/map?age=15

Unfortunatlly no new icon was uploaded in the last 15 days...

Paulo

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> I don't believe Stefan's driver handles the alarm speed
> (Stefan please chime in if I am wrong).  My upgrade does
> handle it with a separate driver called SPDALRM.TSR which
> is loaded by System Manager.

that's true: my driver DSPEED does not handle the alarm speed.

At the time I wrote the driver (1995) I also played around with
different settings for the DRAM refresh rate and DRAM, PCMCIA
and ISA-Bus wait states. Maybe I should look at these values
again now as faster PCMCIA cards and memory upgrades are
available. But honestly, I don't feel very motivated. I would
prefer if Mack could release his drivers as freeware,
especially because of one reason: You see more and more speed
and/or memory upgraded palmtops for sale. I for example bought
a speed upgraded 2.hand palmtop which came without batteries
and hence without driver. Without my own driver there would
have been no legal way to use this palmtop.

Stefan

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:07:54 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I just figured out another problem w/v2.8 of freecell.  The link on
your page points to "freecell.zip" (all lower case), but this file
actually contains the previous 2.7x version.  When I ftp'ed to your
site, I saw a "FREECELL.ZIP" (all upper case), and this file seems
to indeed contain the latest v2.8 file.  Thought you guys might want
to know.

-Chris Lott

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Having recently bought a SANDISK flashcard I want to automate the backup of
my c:\_dat directory to the flashcard.

I know this is a pretty standard sort of thing everyone does, so I have
read the friendly manual about setting an appointment to run a macro or
program.

I have made a repeating appointment with an entry

        |c:\backup.dat@Q

I have made a backup.bat file containing one line:

        copy c:\_dat\*.*  a:\backup\_dat\*.*

And I guess it will work (but if you know a better way...?)

BUT THE QUESTION - is there a way to hide this 'appointment' from appearing
in the daily appointment view?

Thanks in advance
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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:26:37 +0200
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> Has anyone seen the iButtons?  (http://www.ibutton.com)
>
> These are tiny little Java machines roughly the size of a button-cell
> battery.  I bumped into them when I found an article about an ENIGMA
> emulator that runs on an iButton set in a ring - quite an impressive
> decoder ring.  (http://www.javaworld.com/jw-08-1998/jw-08-indepth.html)

Unfortunately, the Java Ring can _only_ run programs while it is inserted
into the PC-interface, the rest of the time (when you're carrying it
around) it can carry about 6kb of information, but do nothing with it.

This is what really turned me off, as the iButton seems like a really nice
gadget, but if I can only use it when it is inserted into my PC than what
is the point of having the Java machine in the ring when it could just as
easily be in my computer?


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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:05:25 -0400
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Awesome!  Thank you, Curtis!

Appreciatively,
Rick

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On 6/17/99 at 11:07 PM Curtis Cameron wrote:

>Since FreeCell seems to be a favorite, I've just enhanced it and
>uploaded the new version to the site http://cameron.hplx.net...

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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I just figured out another problem w/v2.8 of freecell.  The link on
> your page points to "freecell.zip" (all lower case), but this file
> actually contains the previous 2.7x version.  When I ftp'ed to your
> site, I saw a "FREECELL.ZIP" (all upper case), and this file seems
> to indeed contain the latest v2.8 file.  Thought you guys might want
> to know.

Chris :

        What is the ftp address for Curtis Cameron game site?

Thanks

Dave



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The appointment must point to an executable program.  The extension .dat
will only result in an error "Bad command or file name" when it attempts to
execute.  I bet you meant to put .bat in the line below, but I was just
making sure.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jez Cunningham ÝSMTP:Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR¨
>
>         |c:\backup.dat@Q
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, David L Sprinkle wrote:

>         What is the ftp address for Curtis Cameron game site?

I don't think it's got an FTP address... but http://cameron.hplx.net is a
shortcut to his AOL site, http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html.

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Dammit - yes, I meant .bat
It was a tybo.
Jez
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The appointment must point to an executable program.  The extension .dat
will only result in an error "Bad command or file name" when it attempts to
execute.  I bet you meant to put .bat in the line below, but I was just
making sure.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jez Cunningham ÝSMTP:Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR¨
>
>         |c:\backup.dat@Q
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"Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> wrote:

> I've been waiting to see someone comment about the poor man's solution to
> getting high quality digital pictures.
>
> Someone mentioned that digital cameras did not produce images as good as
> those cameras using film.
>
> Several film processing companies offer to process your 35mm film and
> provide paper prints or digital file copies on disk.
>
> Has anyone tried this?  If so, how was the quality?

I've used the Konica digital processing, currently available through
Bradlees (a discount department store chain in the northeastern US).
This is a second-day service; I don't know any place that does 1-hour
digitization.  A quick look at some old images revealed that they come
back 718x522; not "megapixel".  On the other hand, this process already
yields good-quality hardcopy (the prints) and te means to make more
(the negatives), so you don't need the higher-resolution to feed to a
photo-quality printer, and the scans are just the right resolution for
a CRT (web page or MIME).  My only complaint was that the scans were
sometimes too dark.  I could rescan any print I really cared about, so
there was no real risk.

I primarily use this process for fast turnaround on pictures of events,
such as the company cookout, for which I'm willing to pay the premium
to avoid sitting at the scanner for several hours.  I also use
single-use cameras, which I don't mind passing around to people to take
their own shots.  At least one camera company caught on to this
practice, and even offers a single-use dressed up for distribution at
weddings.

That said, I'll probably be picking up a digital camera, primarily to
allow instant transmission of color stills from the field.  I wouldn't
be passing that camera around at parties, though ;-).

ObHPLX: I would insist on an LCD back for the camera, since the LX's
display is short and grayscale.

                                -Jim.

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David Sargeant wrote:
> Is there any way to decrypt the contents of the "raw"
> dump of records, seeing as how I know the database structure (and have an
> older version) and know the password and all?

The encryption engine is so simple that you would not even need to
know what the password is.  After all, the password can be reocvered
anyway.  I played around with it while I was working on the Perl 5
module named HP200LX::DB which can be found on CPAN.  I do not fully
understand the algorithms yet, however, preliminary results suggest
that decoding an entire database or any DB record should be possible.

You could install the Perl package on your work station (not on the LX)
and see if a command like "catgdb.pl -format 2 some-encrypted.gdb"
returns any interesting results.  It might return DB contents or
garbage, which would mean that I don't know the algorithm as good
as I previoulsy thought ;)

Another path to try, if you are in the mood to wade knee-deep throuh
Perl code:  You could isolate DB records and glue them together with
parts of your working older version and let the LX do the decoding.
The Perl module above might be a basis for your hacking.

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<<Without my own driver there would have been no legal way to use this
palmtop.>>

Anyone with a speed upgraded palmtop that was originally my upgrade or
someone that contributes to the palmtop community such as yourself is most
welcome to have the driver emailed to you from my web site.  You can email
me for the userid and password required if your dealer or original owner did
not supply it.

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:05:03 -0700
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To: "'Wayne Thompson'" <mewayne@pacbell.net>

RESPONSE BELOW

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>
> What is the difference between

                THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE PACKAGING
SDCFB-XX-101 - standard shipping
SDCFB-XX-144 - retail version(THIS THE ONE YOU WANT)
SDCFB-XX-299 - Multi Languange

> This doesn't seem to be documented anywhere on www.sandisk.com.
>
> Wayne
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For those of you who are worried about
the possibility of database corruption going
unnoticed and inadvertant backup of bad
data, here's a suggestion.

For each database, use gdbdump to create
a CDF of the database and backup that ascii
file.  Then you can keep track of the number
of rows and take appropriate action if you
notice missing data, before you overwrite
your last good backup.

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Andreas,

> What version of PE do you use? Support for VGA was introduced about a
> year or two ago. If it does not automatically use the full screen, you
> most probably have an older version of PE.
> .....
> Check out the configuration file PE.CFG:

I was using - until 5 minutes ago - PE 1.1
I downloaded PE 2.1 and the full screen is there and even the small
font was preinstalled in PE.cfg (0=3Dsmall).

Thanks so much. What can I do for *you* ?
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> >         What is the ftp address for Curtis Cameron game site?
>
> I don't think it's got an FTP address... but http://cameron.hplx.net is a
> shortcut to his AOL site, http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html.

...and the following URL (N.B. the upper case--thanks Chris!)
worked for me this morning:

   http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/FREECELL.ZIP

Of course, the biggest thanks go to Curtis for his *huge*
contribution to the HPDOSLX community!

THANKS CURTIS!

Ted

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Fair enough.  I cannot think of a way you could fit a computer AND an
input device AND a display into the same form factor as 3-5 stacked
dimes.  Methinks you might not need to given the widespread availability
of PCs.  The interface is everywhere already so you just haul your
utilities and data from place to place.

I ordered a few to play with their usefulness at making email encryption
easier for the attorneys and clients with whom I work.  Instead of
coaching them on password security and then trusting them to use
something other than their birthdate, I'll hand them a ring or keychain
with either their key or the whole encryption utility programmed on it
(the newest iButtons have 134K RAM so are far more flexible than the 6K
versions).  The iButton is waterproof, shockproof and tamperproof as well
as encrypted making it perfect for such uses.

iButtons aren't a replacement for the HP200lx (what is - it is a unique
device).  However, 134K crypto-secured computers available for a mere $32
is enough incentive to creative and artistic "hackers" that I expect to
see incredibly useful devices in tiny form factors that send my palmtop
to the attic within the next few years.  Many people on this list have
created what I consider to be miracles with less.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - Besides, isn't it even slightly geek-cool to have a decoder ring
that runs Blowfish, 3DES, RSA, and (for nostalgia) Enigma?

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Subject:      2DayFile

Great little utility.

I'm totally unfamiliar with assembly.  Could someone explain how I could
modify it to make the file name either "ccyymmdd" or "mmddccyy"?

Thanks.

Larry Zimmerman

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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Gerhard Gonter wrote:

> The encryption engine is so simple that you would not even need to
> know what the password is.  After all, the password can be reocvered
> anyway.  I played around with it while I was working on the Perl 5
> module named HP200LX::DB which can be found on CPAN.  I do not fully
> understand the algorithms yet, however, preliminary results suggest
> that decoding an entire database or any DB record should be possible.

Well, what I want to try is running the algorithm over the data out of a
whole bunch of sectors that I suspect are out of the GDB file, but can't
tell because they're encrypted.  Do you suppose this is possible, or do I
need a complete and working database file to be able to decrypt it?

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From:  Robert Schulz Metallwarenfabrik Berli <rschulz@ipberlin.com>  06/18/99

on my 700lx the keyboard self-test shows "bad keyboard"  after pressing
five keys.
the error message comes every time after the fith keystroke and does not
depend on which key is pressed.
Is my keyboard really "bad" or is the self-test routine weak?

peter

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hi folks,
got a weird problem now ...
didn't have any problems running transfile 200 before but now i'm getting=
 a
pop up box which says "HP FILE SYSTEM - Invalid file name"  when i try to=

transfer downloaded stuff from my desktop to my palmtop.

anybody else had this problem?   suggestions?
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ RE: Digital Camera

> >   I remember reading about the digital insert for a regular 35 mm camera
> > too. What I seem to remember about it though was that the expected cost
> > was just as high (if not higher) as a whole comparable digital camera of
> > that day.
> >
> >   I was intrigued about that when I read about that, too. I hope others
> > have more info about it.
>
>
> The URL for the site is:
>
> http://www.imagek.com/index.shtml
>
> They are now talking about a summer 1999 release
>
> Sound's interesting to me!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting

At $800 it is a little too pricey though, since a whole camera can be
had for that. Also, with only 24 pictures and no removable media,
only a cable transfer, it is rather limited. I think this may be a
case of too little too late, which is too bad since the concept is a
good one. I would love to have a cartridge for my SLR but I would
only buy it with removable CF storage and a price less than $400 or
so.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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> >     Just out of curiosity... what is the number of the Microsoft game
> >you mentioned as unsolvable?
>
> It's 11982. There was a website about Microsoft's FreeCell (I just
> checked and it's no longer there) which told more than you ever

The site is: http://members.aol.com/wgreview.html
...and it is still there.

It also lists a Freecell Pro which seems to have a solver
function.  I wonder if it can be set for the HP game that we
suspect is impossible?

> There are ~32000 games in Microsoft FreeCell, and one million in the
> HPLX version, so the numbers of the games don't correspond at all.

Freecell Pro can do the 32k MS games plus another 4 billion.
Check it out at: http://members.aol.com/wgreview/fcpro.html

> >     And while we're on the subject... how is a FreeCell game's number
> >related to its initial arrangement?  Is there an algorithm for this?
>
> Yes, but it's too complicated to do you any good. The distribution of
> cards is determined by a software pseudo-random number generator,
...
>
> Most RNG's are more complicated. For the HPLX FreeCell, I used Turbo
> Pascal 7's built-in one. I'm sure for MS FreeCell, they used MS C. I
> have no idea what the algorithms used are, but they seem to be pretty

The shuffle routine is: http://members.aol.com/wgreview/mshuffle.html

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  Yes "buddy ... pal"...?  :¬)

            ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:44 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Desperate: disk editor
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Stanley, John L. wrote:
>
> >   I've spent weeks (recovering what I could from a very old DOS
> > system) patching FAT and directory tables by hand.  I know
> this stuff
> > far TOO well. :¬p
>
> Well, in that case... buddy... pal... <g>
>
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I've seen this one lots of times. Long file names.  The
palmtop wants 8.3 names but

Tom Nemeth wrote:

> pop up box which says "HP FILE SYSTEM - Invalid file name"  when i try to
> transfer downloaded stuff from my desktop to my palmtop.
>

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I've got an old spreadsheet program called SuperCalc4 by Computer
Associates that I sometimes run on the 200LX.  I'd like to wipe that out
and import all of the SuperCalc files into Lotus 1-2-3. SuperCalc has an
option to export to Lotus 1-2-3 v2.4, but there are about 1,700 files to
be converted.  Does anybody know of a utility that could do a batch
conversion from SuperCalc4 1.0 to Lotus 1-2-3 2.4?

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Just got a new laptop.  I see that the built-in IR has the choices of
being configured as (a) ASK, (b) IrDA1.0 or (c) IrDA1.1.

Anyone using such an interface to communicate w/their palmtop?

-Chris

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After a long battle to get my palmtop to access the internet, I have finaly
won.  I'll summerize my experience below to help those in the war.

I used a typical WATTCP.CFG (much like the example)

My dial-up worked fine, connecting was no problem.

My first problem was that my mail server (mail.valleynetworking.com) couldnt be
resolved. So I entered the machine number (206.171.48.3) directly.  I assumed
this to be some kind of protocol conflict.

Using the machine number I was able to start the POP & SMTP run but it would
usually time-out & drop me.

I changed my CFG setting a couple dozen times and decided to play with my modem
string.  Since I couldnt find my manual I used the settings in a MDM file
downloaded from ccMail's FTP site.  Turning RTS/CTS on did it for me.

mail.valleynetworking.net is resolved and no more time-outs!

Guess I'm so used to "Plug & Play" now, I tend to forget "the old ways."

I'm still looking into Goin Postal though.  Lots of nice features there.

Hope this helps someone.

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In a message dated 6/18/1999 06:29:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
david@HPLX.NET writes:

> Does anybody know of a utility that could do a batch
>  conversion from SuperCalc4 1.0 to Lotus 1-2-3 2.4?
David,

If SuperCalc can, 1, Start with a file nominated at the command line
(SuperCalc <filename>) , and 2, run a macro at start up (i.e., Save As .wk1,
Quit), it should be easy enough to write a looped batch file to move through
a directory of files, opening SuperCalc with the 1st file, deleting the Calc
file after Calc exits, and looping back to opening Calc again with the new
1st file.

If it won't do that, I have no other ideas.

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For anybody looking for a SRAM Card, found this post a fews days ago on the
palmtop newsgroup.

>>>

From: tclai@*/no.sp.am/*usa.net (TC Lai)
Subject: FS: 1 Meg PCMCIA SRAM Cards - $24, Sale ends soon!
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:36:43 -0800

Our special spring sale will be ending soon, but until it does, you can
buy these cards at $24 a piece!  (Price includes shipping to US addresses)

New Sony Magic Link branded 1 Meg PCMCIA SRAM Cards.  5v operation.  Type
I form factor.  Includes Lithium Battery (CR 2025), with built-in
rechargable 3 minute backup.

Works in the HP 95LX, Sony MagicLinks, older Newtons, Motorola Envoys and
marcos, etc.  Unfortunately will not work in Poquet palmtop (which
requires 3v SRAM cards.)  Perfect for that older palmtop or PDA.

Credit cards accepted.   Volume discounts available for purchases of 10
cards or more.  At these prices, all orders are final.

Specifications and order info are available from:

http://www.tlai.com

--
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Designer/Director
TLai Enterprises

http://www.tlai.com
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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:54:37 +0000
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Daniel,

The DS driver takes very little RAM.  It is loaded for Config.sys automati=
cly only a second or two after reboot.  The screen is shifted and can be =
difficult to read for that second or two (this condition varies in =
different machines depending on their particular chips, screens, and =
other normal variences.  I have seen screens from readable to unreadable. =
 You just have to remember to hit N for no and enter.  This is a fairly =
minor issue.

All that said, I must now say that the Double speed upgrade was the best =
investment/upgrade I ever did to my palmtop.  You will be impressed!     =
    =3DBob=3D

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Hi All!

Posting to the list from my CIS addr. via palmtop, because I
CAN!!! <normally I post from my .mil address>

Thanks to all who waded in and helped out,after my
self-imposed C: drive crash, esp. Hal @ Thaddeus, Mack (of
double-speed <and other> fame), and Avi (of D&A software
fame) and LOTS of list members who gave me tips and advice
regarding recovering my "melted" palmtop C: drive (figure of
speech, no phys. damage). I was the one who broke it (lost
and corrupted my C: drive) and I was delighted that I didn't
have to fix it by myself.

This once again proves the HUGE value of this list (thanks 2
Al Kind, for running it, of course).

Well, this feels a little like an Oscar's speech; so I'll
quit before I get all mushy and slobbery <grin>, I'll have a
few more questions about recovering/fixing  small things, but
I'll post them under sep. subjects.

I *will* say wiping C: isn't the recommended way to clean the
junk out of your palmtop, but it can be effective!

Thanks again to all,

--tim

PS. Lest David Sergeant get "jealous" <g> and think I had a
full recovery to his maybe not so full one, I will say I
lost about 40 Megs of stuff that I wasn't going to be able
to disk-image, ferret through and stitch together .... so
good luck there <I'm just lucky I backed up my _DAT and
Quicken data RIGHT before I blew it!>.

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Well - here's the first of my 'snivels,' now that I'm back
online.

I've never been able to make my Apex Data ÝSmart Modular
Technologies division¨ "Mobile Plus Cellular" v.34 modem
to work w/ my 200LX (or my old 1 MB 100LX, for that matter).

I know some here have had plenty of luck w/ this modem Ýbut
lost any advice files you may've sent....¨.  I get tone, and
in the case of WWW/LX, I even connect briefly Ýbefore getting
an error message of, "Aborting! Broken connection while
waiting for 'D:' Exiting..."  It won't even connect from the
built-in data com program.

I'm trying all sorts of possibilities Ýto connect to CIS¨,
going for higher and lower data rates, different factory
settings and init. strings - all to no avail.  The 100 isn't
running ANYTHING, so I think I may've ruled out the
possibility of a conflict w/ the 200's double-speed, SSC,
Buddy, or other drivers Ýbut maybe not - what do you all
think?  <I've even tried different PC Card modem support
drivers ÝCIC100, etc.>

I don't think it could be defective, but if it is I hope
mobile planet is good about returns/exchanges, etc....

TIA for any help,

--tim

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Hi All,

Well, I'm a bit touchy about making corrections to drives
after dumping one <it's been a long time since a utility has
helped me destroy data>.

If chkdsk /f OK to use on an unmodified LX?

Here's the error I get on my 100LX's C: drive:

Errors found, F parameter not specified
Corrections will not be written to disk


   48 lost allocation units found in 3 chains.
     24576 bytes disk space would be freed

    354816 bytes total disk space
      4608 bytes in 1 hidden files
      3072 bytes in 2 directories
    133120 bytes in 36 user files
    189440 bytes available on disk

       512 bytes in each allocation unit
       693 total allocation units on disk
       370 available allocation units on disk

    651264 total bytes memory
    522192 bytes free

Should I just fix it, look at the .CHK files and decide to
delete them, or will the /f function do something "odd".

TIA,

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Subject:      Re: PE on the Desktop

What is the utility again that'll let you run pe on a desktop?

<and EXMs for that matter>.

I tried to run PE and got an errpr message that chastized me for not using
some sort of LX....

TIA,

--tim

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Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Tried Ýrunning CPACK¨ again with 384K on an old Toshiba laptop.
> No go

There is no way the CPACK will run in a 384K DOS box.  It
needs at least 550K or maybe more.


Stan

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thanks qman,
but i'm not using x-finder.
i noticed when i shut my hp last night, that i received a msg that i had
too many files open.  never saw that before either.  looked at sys manage=
r
and had all the programs closed too.  hmmm...

tom

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   >If chkdsk /f OK to use on an unmodified LX?
   >Here's the error I get on my 100LX's C: drive:
   >Errors found, F parameter not specified
   >Corrections will not be written to disk
   >48 lost allocation units found in 3 chains.
   <snip>
Message-Id: <19990619033921.FLMG2409@Ý12.72.154.47¨>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:39:21 +0000

   >Should I just fix it, look at the .CHK files and decide to
   >delete them, or will the /f function do something "odd".

Use the /f (Force <g>).

Isolating the lost clusters won't affect an already running system...the
lost clusters are sort of like benign tumors. CHKDSK /F just isolates them
for removal.

It may be a good idea to look at the .chk files that result.... but these
happen all the time on systems that get rebooted during some program
lockups and are usually temp files anyway and should pose no risk.

I do it all the time.

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Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:36:19 -0500 (EST)

01h15m30s ago ...
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> What is the utility again that'll let you run pe on a desktop?
>
> <and EXMs for that matter>.
>
> I tried to run PE and got an errpr message that chastized me for not =
using
> some sort of LX....

You need "PALRUN" It is available on the D&A site:

http://www.dasoft.com

Go to the FTP... in the MISC subdirectory...

Cheers,

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RE:
>> What is the utility again that'll let you run pe on a desktop?
>

>You need "PALRUN" It is available on the D&A site:

>http://www.dasoft.com

I knew it had a simple name like that!

Thanks!!

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Subject:      Re: Error on 100LX C: drive

re:
>   >Should I just fix it, look at the .CHK files and decide to
>   >delete them, or will the /f function do something "odd".

>Use the /f (Force <g>).

Thanks Longden!!

--tim

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:55:13 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Does anybody know the file format that Pocket Quicken uses?  After having
successfully recovered the important records from my important (and
encrypted) database file, I'm raring to get back my lost Pocket Quicken
entries.  I know I've found at least the start of the QDATA.PDT file on
this sector dump; I can open the saved file in Pocket Quicken (and it asks
for the password and everything) and it shows the right accounts.  But
when I try to do anything beyond that, it gives me error codes -15 and
-30.  I know the error codes are somehow related to the information at the
end of the file, because when I extended the file dump by one sector it
changed from error -15 to error -30.  <g>  Anybody know of any description
of the file format?

I've got an uncle who works at Intuit... perhaps I should contact him.
<g>

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:01:13 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Tim wrote:

> PS. Lest David Sargeant get "jealous" <g> and think I had a full
> recovery to his maybe not so full one, I will say I lost about 40 Megs
> of stuff that I wasn't going to be able to disk-image, ferret through
> and stitch together .... so good luck there <I'm just lucky I backed
> up my _DAT and Quicken data RIGHT before I blew it!>.

I backed up my entire drive before I blew it, but wouldn't you know it,
the backup got junked too.  Fortunately, I was able to recover the
important records of my encrypted database today, through some amazing
good luck.  That was really all that was important except the Pocket
Quicken data, which I'm reconstructing-- but am still trying to
recover.  <g>  Oh, and a few WP51 files which are also mostly recovered--
they're a lot easier than PQ or GDB files.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:28:41 +1200
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From:         Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Family Origns 3.0 for Dos
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>I recently purchased PAF 3.0 but have not yet had a chance to try it out
on
>the HP200LX.
>Which runs better on the 200LX, 3.0 or 2.31?
>If 2.31, any idea where I can get a copy of version 2.31?

>At 10:17 AM 6/15/99 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
>>
>>It's a foul lie.  <g>  PAF 3.0's system requirements claim it needs a
286,
>>but it runs fine on the 200LX.

However, you might prefer 2.31. I found 3.0 to be less user-friendly.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 05:18:31 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Hi all,

Now that my wife and little boy are out of town for a while, I've been
knocking off some programming projects.

I've just posted version 1.0 of the Snake game. You can play two ways,
either endurance (see how long you can keep going), or speed (how fast
can you eat 50 meals?).

This version should run the same speed whether you have it plugged
into AC, or whether it's a double-speed unit. The preliminary version
ran somewhat faster on faster palmtops.

Again, it's posted on my web page:

http://cameron.hplx.net  (alias)
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html
ftp://members.aol.com/freewhL44/

Have fun,

Curtis Cameron

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Date:         Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:17:08 -0800
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Mike Kopplin <kopplin@primenet.com> wrote:

I use PE to write HTML pages for several websites. To simpify
entry, I have written a set of macros to generate many of the
common html tags. Nothing complex, but it saves me a lot of
keystrokes. The macros, and a description are available at

http://www.technoir.nu:8080/hplx/htmlmac.htm


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------

Hi Mike,

Great set of HTML macros. and will be well used. (:-)



Regards,


Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net


ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.04

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:26:39 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: PE on the Desktop
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>From: Andreas Garzotto Ýmailto:garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH¨
> >From: Winfried Zettelmeyer
... snip ...
> > 2) How do I select a letter, word or paragraph, SHIFT with
> > the normal arrow keys does not work ?
>
> Most desktop keyboards do not create any special codes for shifted
> arrow keys, so applications cannot detect it.

  Gee.  Guess I've just been imagining that I can use shift-arrow with all
my desktop applications... :)

> What should work on all keyboards is starting
> a selection with ESC SPACE.

  ESC+SPACE may work in PE, but most peoples fingers are practically
hard-wired to automatically use the shift-arrows...  (Literally EVERY
application most people use, LX and desktop, allows using shift-arrows to
select text.)  What "should" work on all applications is making a selection
with shift-arrows...

  I'm a victim of this myself.  I've tried PE several times.  It's got tons
of great features.  But I have to admit, I just couldn't adapt to using
ESC-SHIFT instead of shift-arrow.  I practically live at a keyboard.  Over
the last 15 years, shift-arrowing has become so ingrained in my typing
habits that I had to go back to Memo and other editors because of this
problem.

  Please Andreas...  It would probably take less than 5 lines of code to
also check the keyboard shift state via the bios.  Then it would work with
macros on the palmtop (why I assume you check for the special LX shift-arrow
keycodes) AND it would work "normally" on most desktop machines too...

  Please?

       ... JLS

  PS:  The above probably also explains why PE shift-arrows won't even work
on an LX with some LX keyboard enhancers.

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:14:22 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Subject:      2DayFile
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>Great little utility.
>
>I'm totally unfamiliar with assembly.  Could someone explain how I could=

>modify it to make the file name either "ccyymmdd" or "mmddccyy"?

Thanks. Rather than bore you and everybody else with the changes, I have
uploaded a new 2DAYFILE.ZIP to Super, containing three files with
sources to support all three formats:

  YY-MM-DD.txt
  ccyymmdd.txt
  mmddccyy.txt

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:09:32 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM Stanley, John L. wrote:
> Gee.  Guess I've just been imagining that I can use shift-arrow with all
> my desktop applications... :)

PE is not a desktop application. It was written for the palmtop. The
palmtop generates special scan codes for the shifted arrow keys.
Most desktop do not seem to generate those codes. Again: PE was written
for the palmtop, not the desktop.

> It would probably take less than 5 lines of code to
> also check the keyboard shift state via the bios.

It added 4 lines of code (one for each arrow key) :-) Should be in the
next version of PE.

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 06:48:05 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
Content-Type: text

Okay... I've been playing with my new laptop some more (don't worry
- it's NOT a 200lx replacement - I need it to run some heavy-duty
engineering design/layout programs).  One thing that really impressed
me was the support for the two PCMCIA slots.  I just plugged in my
Accton Ethernet card, and it automatically recognized it and loaded
the drivers.  Ditto for the Megahertz modem.  (this is one of the few
times I've actually had PnP work for me!).

I finally became brave enough to plug in my ATA FLASH card.  It recognized
it, too.  I was able to see all the files on the card.  I stopped short
of actually copying anything to/from it, however.

Question:  Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, and
will it treat it properly as such?  If not, can I tell it?  I've read
before on the list that some of you backup/restore to/from your laptops,
so surely this is a solvable problem.  My fear is that the laptop will
modify the card/FAT in some manner that the palmtop won't be able to
access it anymore.

-Chris

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Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:06:26 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Chris

I have an 8 MB PNY FLASH that I use in the 200.  When I put it in my '98
Notebook, it recognized it as a Sandisk PCMCIA Memory card, loaded the
drivers, and I was able to access it just like a normal drive.  The bonus
was that it was very fast compared to backing up using the serial/IR ports.
After I do my backups, and even write files to the flash from the notebook,
I put it back in the 200LX, and it reads it just fine.

I don't know if there are other variants of FLASH cards that don't behave as
nicely.  Maybe someone else on the list has some experience.

Sean

>Question:  Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, and
>will it treat it properly as such?  If not, can I tell it?  I've read
>before on the list that some of you backup/restore to/from your laptops,
>so surely this is a solvable problem.  My fear is that the laptop will
>modify the card/FAT in some manner that the palmtop won't be able to
>access it anymore.
>
>-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:22:36 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Question:  Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, and
> will it treat it properly as such?  If not, can I tell it?  I've read
> before on the list that some of you backup/restore to/from your laptops,
> so surely this is a solvable problem.  My fear is that the laptop will
> modify the card/FAT in some manner that the palmtop won't be able to
> access it anymore.

A Win95 or Win98 laptop won't mess with the card format at all.  They both
can read and write to FAT 16 perfectly, so don't worry about messing up your
card.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:35:22 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
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On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> A Win95 or Win98 laptop won't mess with the card format at all.  They
> both can read and write to FAT 16 perfectly, so don't worry about
> messing up your card.

One thing they might do, though, is create a hidden RECYCLED directory on
the flash card.  Gotta watch out for those stealth "goodies"...

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:37:08 -0500
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              Paul_Stratton <Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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From:         Paul_Stratton <Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

>Question:  Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, and
>will it treat it properly as such?  If not, can I tell it?  I've read
>before on the list that some of you backup/restore to/from your laptops,
>so surely this is a solvable problem.  My fear is that the laptop will
>modify the card/FAT in some manner that the palmtop won't be able to
>access it anymore.

Response:
I have a 64Mb Flash card that I interchange with my camera (sans adapter),
the palmtop, and several PCs and laptops at work.  All use different OS's.
I've had no problem using it except that the palmtop doesn't like long file
names that W9x/NT OS uses.  I've even formated the flash card/drive on a
laptop and have used it in many systems without problems. In fact, for me to
format it using smaller drive clusters, I had to use a W98 OS. Even then I
can use it on the palmtop, camera, et al.

paul_stratton@email.msn.com

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From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 7:10 AM
Subject: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98


>Okay... I've been playing with my new laptop some more (don't worry
>- it's NOT a 200lx replacement - I need it to run some heavy-duty
>engineering design/layout programs).  One thing that really impressed
>me was the support for the two PCMCIA slots.  I just plugged in my
>Accton Ethernet card, and it automatically recognized it and loaded
>the drivers.  Ditto for the Megahertz modem.  (this is one of the few
>times I've actually had PnP work for me!).
>
>I finally became brave enough to plug in my ATA FLASH card.  It recognized
>it, too.  I was able to see all the files on the card.  I stopped short
>of actually copying anything to/from it, however.
>
>Question:  Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, and
>will it treat it properly as such?  If not, can I tell it?  I've read
>before on the list that some of you backup/restore to/from your laptops,
>so surely this is a solvable problem.  My fear is that the laptop will
>modify the card/FAT in some manner that the palmtop won't be able to
>access it anymore.
>
>-Chris
>
>--
>
>************************************************************************
>R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
>Huntsville, Alabama
>************************************************************************
>
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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:32:08 +0800
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              Hermann Michael Blum <hmblum@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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From:         Hermann Michael Blum <hmblum@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Subject:      digital camera for HPLX
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Following a recommendation given in the Compuserve HP-Palmtop group I
bought a Toshiba PDR 2, the buildt in PC card of which allows an instant
and amazingly fast transfer of the JPEG compressed images (LX recognizes
camera as drive a:). These are lxpic readable and processable.  Just
received it and am positively surprised about speed and ease of use with
HPLX.

Had so far the Sony DSC F1 in use, the picture quality of which should
still be better than the Tohiba's (will still use the Sony for quick shots
when out with the family). However the processing and transfer of the files
to the palmtop via the PC was a bit cumbersome and particularly tedious
when travelling. But then I need it most because I meet a lot of new faces
in a lot of meetings. For this I have my phonebook enhanced with the
amazing ipex program so that with the names also a picture pops up (turned
out to be  *the* ice-breaker in all negotiations, nobody rejected yet to be
pictured) so not to address the person next time with the wrong name (and
also to be able to check with others whether Mr. X is really the one in
mind). For this the combination with the Toshiba seems to be unbeatable.
Quality more than sufficient for the b/w HPLX pictures, no cable, no
adapter, no power supply, no software.

But now the best: at
http://www.pacbus.com/cgi-bin/sgin0102.exe?UID=1999061111462640&T1=T170+1092
&FNM=07

ClubMac is selling the camera for $ 149.00 and their service is amazing
(had the camera delivered to Singapore within two days with shipping only a
third of what bestdigital initially quoted who announce the camera even for
$119.00 but did not come back when I tried to order). Comes with 2 2Meg
Smart media and Toshiba PC/Mac software.

H Michael Blum
(no interest in either one trading house)

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:10:34 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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From:         Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Other stealth goodies are the long file name info in the directories. A disk
editor can help clean out the fluff.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

David Sargeant wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:
>
> > A Win95 or Win98 laptop won't mess with the card format at all.  They
> > both can read and write to FAT 16 perfectly, so don't worry about
> > messing up your card.
>
> One thing they might do, though, is create a hidden RECYCLED directory on
> the flash card.  Gotta watch out for those stealth "goodies"...
>
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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:25:17 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: digital camera for HPLX
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> Following a recommendation given in the Compuserve HP-Palmtop group I
> bought a Toshiba PDR 2, the buildt in PC card of which allows an =
instant
> and amazingly fast transfer of the JPEG compressed images (LX recognizes
> camera as drive a:). These are lxpic readable and processable.  Just
> received it and am positively surprised about speed and ease of use =
with
> HPLX.

I've got one too.  It works quite nicely, except the camera's low-light
sensitivity isn't too good.  Oh well.... there's a review by me at
http://www.hplx.net.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
skateboard on the Information Superhighway! --

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:24:43 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Slightly off-topic: SuperCalc to Lotus?
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> If SuperCalc can, 1, Start with a file nominated at the command line
> (SuperCalc <filename>) , and 2, run a macro at start up (i.e., Save As
> .wk1, Quit), it should be easy enough to write a looped batch file to
> move through a directory of files, opening SuperCalc with the 1st
> file, deleting the Calc file after Calc exits, and looping back to
> opening Calc again with the new 1st file.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Hmmm... I'll check the manual and find out
about the startup macro.  Meantime, how does one write a looped batch file
to move through a whole directory of 1700 .CAL files?  Presumably
something like FOR %F IN (*.CAL) DO SC4.COM %F ?

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David Sargeant wrote:

>> A Win95 or Win98 laptop won't mess with the card format at all.  They
>> both can read and write to FAT 16 perfectly, so don't worry about
>> messing up your card.
>
>One thing they might do, though, is create a hidden RECYCLED directory =
on
>the flash card.  Gotta watch out for those stealth "goodies"...

I was mysteriously running out of space on my flash card the other day
when I noticed that I had a RECYCLED folder on it.

By the way, I read/write to my flash card on my notbook computer
running WinNT4. It won't run Stacker, however, so I have to use my
flash card uncompressed. Can Win95 and Win98 handle Stacker?

Also, I'd like to add a PCMCIA card slot on my home PC. Has anyone
found a good and cheap way to do this?

thanks,

Curtis Cameron

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On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Curtis Cameron wrote:

> By the way, I read/write to my flash card on my notbook computer
> running WinNT4. It won't run Stacker, however, so I have to use my
> flash card uncompressed. Can Win95 and Win98 handle Stacker?

From what I hear, yes-- using the Stacker Anywhere feature you can run an
exe on the uncompressed portion of the card and then access the compressed
portion.  But can anybody comment on how much conventional memory Stacker
takes up on the 200LX?  I've heard a lot-- like 55K.

> Also, I'd like to add a PCMCIA card slot on my home PC. Has anyone
> found a good and cheap way to do this?

The cheapest way was when Necx sold the ISA-card readers that had PCMCIA
slots on the back of the card for like $9.95.  But they ran out a long
time ago.  The most convenient way is to spend about $70-$100 and get a
version that fits in a 3.5" drive bay.  I've regular and CF readers that
plug into a parallel port, too.

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Hi Stan,

> With scanners available for less than $100 (I paid $45 for mine, shipped, used)
> and $3.50 48-hour processing from Walmart for 4x6, thats the cheapest way to
> get something on the web. If you want images of jewelry, some people put the

This is probably fine when you are stationary, in one place. If you travel
that solution is not practical.

> The Canon A5  zoom is $350, the Nikon $800? The Nikon will produce better
> 8x10 prints. But for web images and 4x6 prints, 780x1024 of the A5 is plenty.

The least expensive Canon A5 Zoon I found wa $367 I believe. And you heard
stories about stock and a week from today "for sure". The Nikon is $950 in
stores, about $930 was least expensive I saw on Internet. It seems that indeed
the JPEGs produced by the Canon are plenty good for Web images.

> But with any of camera, sometime you are going to take a picture and when
> you see the image, you will say "I wish I had used my SLR".

That's life. Sometimes I see something and I say "I wish I had ANY camera with
me!" :-) But I cannot imagine my life loaded up with another gadget full time,
SLR or digital.

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Stan,

> I just got a Canon A5 zoom (under $350) and I love it.

I never found the price to be that low. The best I saw was 379.00 and "they
ran out stock, next week for sure" story.

> Excellent lens and skin tones. See bookmarks below.
> It's 4 x 2.5 x 1.5 in. It has 800x1000 and 530x320 resolutions.

Yes, 1024 x 768 JPEGs and TIFF (RAW), and 512x384.

> >From what I read, it would probably take an 8x10 print
> to see the improvements by the megapixel digicams.

correct. Although a 8" x 10" print out of a large Jpeg looked fine to me. But
it is overkill for what I need anyway.

> the LCD. Canon has a kit with NiMH battery and charger for
> $70 (on the net, if you can find it). I got just the battery from

DK100 is the kit, charger an the MiMH. Best price on the net I saw was 79.95
and the store near me had them in stock and I did not have to wait. The
difference in price: $10.00 - well worth the difference. I bought locally.

> It comes with an 8meg CF card, get a PCMCIA adapter, and
> the jpegs are displayable by LXPIC. Here the small res. 520x320
> fits the LX screen 640x200 better.  The shutter latency is

Got the pcmcia adapter and it works great on the palmtop. Yes the 512 x 384
fits almost perfectly.

> typical of current digicams, press the shutter halfway, camera
> takes 1 sec to autofocus, then press the rest and .3 to expose
> (that typical for a SLR). Image storage takes 4 sec., whcih is
> better than many. Camera takes 5 sec. to turn on.

I go from lock to auto in 2 seconds, and to Programmed in about the same.
Recovery times are excellent. I like the red-eye reducer in the flash unti!

> Good review sites (many cameras, mostly highr end):
>   www.megapixel.net/index.html
>   www.steves-digicams.com/default.htm
>   www.imaging-resource.com/INDEX.HTM
>   www.zapcom.net:80/~webtech/CanonA5Z/index.html

I used all of these and more for lots of learning and information. Thank you!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:11:16 -0700
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Liam, And the many others who posted here and wrote privately:

> I have a Canon Powershot 350, probably getting a bit long
> in the tooth, but takes good VGA pictures - 21 @ normal

indeed. It is an older camera.

After some amount of research I decided that unless I want to make a career
out of the search, I have to focus on a realtively narrow set of features
which would provide the underlying quality. Then, I'd have to see if the field
has more than say 5 manufacturers, and if so, then cut that down to 3 or so.

Well, as this is a camera, recording visually moments in time it seemd to me
that the optics are important. So I chose to look at glass lenses only, since
plastics, although quite good, still have too many aberrations etc.

I will use it while travelling and in general my experience with cameras has
been that they get banged up pretty good. Even in home settings. So as much as
possible non-plastic body became a criterion.

The imaging part of digitals is exploding. In the past 6-8 months they have
gone from sub-Mega pixels to 2+ megapixels, and more is coming. The "business"
part of recording the image is an electronic marvels that jams a huge number
of tiny receptors of light. In that way it is "old technology" - our eyes have
a similar structure. The "wisdom" in the market - well, really among the
marketing folks and salespeople, is that the more pixels the merrier. Surely,
on ot the measures of the quality of a picture is its acuity, how well it
records the details. There are other measures of course. So using this one
criterion, the more pixels the better.

OTOH, the usage of the picture is also a significant consideration. If you
want to print photographic quality pictures from digital material using
anything costing less than $3000-12,000, then you can basically forget it. The
digital "grain" on the digital "film" is just too coarse.

I am ok with this: I want to record images of people, places, things. None of
it will become material for commercial publishing in magazines, so I do not
need to worry about the "grain". I will publish some stuff on the Web, and
there, the weak link is the monitor you use to view images, its "grain" is
much worse than most digital cameras, even the cheapest ones!

I will also print some of the images in letters and maybe even brochures,
manuals. again, I do not intend to print a full page image. I think at most a
half page. Mostly much smaller images. Again, the pixellation density is
almost meaningless, the printers do a good job with this.

So, the mega-pixellation in my case was a small issue. It makes a huge
difference in price - with the mega-plus going for a premium of about 200-300
above the non-mega pixel cameras.

It was important to me that the camera fits in my hand without any special
stretching etc. I want it to take minimal space. It was important IMHO to be
able to manage the functions without having to remember 42 pages of
instructions. I knew weight is an issue when I take the camera on a hike, esp.
because I opted to bias for more metal for strength. So it meant smaller
cameras.

I wanted a ATA PCMCIA or a CF so I can even use it in my palmtop, and it meant
also a standard image format.

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This is a continuation of prior post...


A few other considerations came in too. I did not think it was reasonable to
spend more than $1000 (and that was a bit rich too!) This market changes so
rapidly that what I bought is already obsolete when I buy it, and within a few
months, really a few - 3-6 months - there will be many many more and new
options out there.

Working through all this I narrowed the field to 3 manufacturers: Nikon,
Olympus, and Canon. I used cameras from all these (and others) and appreciate
their strength in the optics area. The cameras I looked at were the Canon
PowerShot A5 Zoom (which I bought), the Nikon CoolPics 950, and the Olympus
C2000. The last one made me drool. At about $1000 you get 2.1Mega pixels, with
a huge number of features in a tiny box that fits well in my hand, jacket
pocket etc. It is almost identical size as the Canon A5Zoom. The Nikon is a
bit larger but it is another fantastic product. The Canon is 810,000 pixels
(actually a bit less) and it priced at a 1/3 of the other two. In terms of the
feature set, it lacks one or two wizardries, but not much!!!

I was leaning all along to the Olympus. What made me go for tha Canon is the
technology / price ratio. I want this to be a large number. In my estimation
it was, especially compared to the other two with very similar technology to
do what I want, and a price almost 3 times higher.

The other technology consideration is that I don't mind obsoleting the Canon
next year - I did not pay exorbitant price for it! And it is possible that in
less than a year there will be a camera on the market that I will want.

The CF usage is another plus. I have a 80MB cf which will take over 1200 pics
on the A5 Zoom. The SMM cards go as high as 16K now. Besides, I can use the CF
in my palmtop (works). So the technology has more than one use.

I thought about that point WRT the camera. And sure enough! My presnetation
are using Power Point (strange to say, but it is a good product, and it is
sold by Microsoft. They _did_ buy it from someone else!:) ...) I use JASC
Paint  Shop Pro. I can capture entire screens, save them as JPEGs and load
them onto the camera. With video cable I can now connect the camera to the TV,
and use it as my presentation device. Well, it will be my backup to the
notebook. So there, a second usage for all that technology! :) ...

I have use the Canon for several days now, and I like it. It take a bit of
getting used to the buttons and locations, but it is ultimately simple,
reasonable and easy to learn.

But I must add two comments:

1. The Nikon and Olympus are still targets of drooling for me! :) - very fine
machines.

2. I was disappointed and confused with the Kodak line. They are all clumsy
looking things, large and clunky. The plastic sounds hollow, like they
extruded the walls to save money on the injection molded plastic. And they
have so many items it is confusing and unwieldy to choose. I gave up.

I want to thank you all who offered advice and opinion and from your
knowledge. When I went to the stores to look I was looking for specific
things, for things you all mentioned, I compared items you all mentioned. The
thread was incredibly useful to me in making the choice. I _KNEW_ things! And
I would not have known the stuff without reading them in your posts.

So my thanks to you all who helped.

My trip will take me to several places in the next two months, and I will post
some stuff on the Web and let you know here where to look for it... Thank you
again!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:26:50 -0700
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I have just downloaded the TransFile program for backing up palmtop,to hard
drive,and onto the ZIP disk; because of a disconnect message trying to run
CPACK from Win'98 dos prompt...never had a problem with '95 transition from
3.x

JeffJohns says to run with the same procedures I used under the original
'set up' instructions etc...John

At 02:35 PM 6/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
>hi folks,
>got a weird problem now ...
>didn't have any problems running transfile 200 before but now i'm getting a
>pop up box which says "HP FILE SYSTEM - Invalid file name"  when i try to
>transfer downloaded stuff from my desktop to my palmtop.
>
>anybody else had this problem?   suggestions?
>tom in muscat
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PMFJI, but I am shopping for a digital camera (and therefore have
found this a _very_ useful thread) and in wandering thru
http://www.pricescan.com I saw the Canon A5 Zoom for less than $315...

A Meshar wrote:
>
> Stan,
>
> > I just got a Canon A5 zoom (under $350) and I love it.
>
> I never found the price to be that low. The best I saw was 379.00 and "they
> ran out stock, next week for sure" story.
>
...

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>>Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, <<

Who knows what Winxx knows? Only the Shadow.... oops, wrong forum.

I've tried what you did. It's a much faster way to backup a Palmtop than
using transfile or ZIP or anything else.  =


For Win98, arm yourself with a bent paper clip and enjoy the ride and hop=
e
you don't crash too often. =


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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:53:38 -0500
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<<Also, I'd like to add a PCMCIA card slot on my home PC. Has anyone
found a good and cheap way to do this?>>

I use a Linksys PCMCIA adapter I found for around $100.  I know it is
expensive compared to the Necx deal folks found a while back, but it works
great with every card I have put in it so far.

Cheers,
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I just got a 32Mb DS 200lx from Thaddeus yesterday. I am DELIGHTED. So far I
have had absolutely no software issues related to the DS upgrade, and I am
like a kid in a candy store having 32 Mb instead of the 2Mb I had before.
I've been installing stuff with wild abandon ever since yesterday, and I
STILL have 25Mb left!

I am very impressed with the extra speed that the DS gives. I'm very glad I
got it!

After my old LX broke I had been using a CE device while I was waiting for
my new LX from Thaddeus. Yuck!! Using CE for a while really makes you
appreciate the 200lx!

Steve

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> Great program!  Thank you!

You are most welcome. I like it and use it too. I had changed back from it, but
went back to ccLXPOP after I reexperienced the problems with the other one.

> Couple of questions.  Does ccLXPOP also use the lxpop options below?
>
> lxpop.maxlines=-1
> lxpop.maxbytes=-1
> lxpop.minfree=-1

Yes - you have two choices:
1. Remove the lxpop. at the beginning of the line OR
2. Change it to:
cclxpop.maxlines=-1

Either will work.

> I realize this is freeware and thus unsuppported.  However, I thought you
might
> be open to a few feature ideas, just for fun.

It is freeware, but I have been supporting a gaggle of users ;)!

(OK - a gaggle may be a stretch, but I am aware of at least ten who really seem
to like it)
>
> Wish list starts here...
>
> The ability to download only messages addressed to/from a particular email
> address.  And, put them in a special folder.
>
> so the cfg file would have
>
> cclxpop.retrieve.to=HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cclcpop.inbox=4

Already can do. The way to do this is with multiple wattcp.cfg files, and to
use LXPOP to download, Then use the offline function of ccLXPOP to index them.
Let me illustrate. Say email1.cfg details the first email account you want to
check, and email2.cfg details the second. Further, assume you want to put the
first account into the third folder in your list and the second account into
the fourth folder. Finally, assume all of your files are in a common directory,
called email. Your BAT file would look like this - comments follow *** and
should not be in the BAT file:

cd email
epppd
copy email1.cfg wattco.cfg    ***setup for first account
lxpop                         ***get mail into incoming.mai
cclxpop offline=c:\email\incoming.mai offlinefolder=3
copy incoming.mai retain.mai
            ***keep if you like to ensure it is indexed properly
copy email2.cfg wattcp.cfg    ***setup for second account
del incoming.mai              ***otherwise it just keeps growing!
lxpop
cclxpop offline=c:\email\incoming.mai offlinefolder=4

Perhaps a better way would be to have a seperate directory for each account,
That is the way I would do it. I think I discuss this in the documentation for
version 1.04. Configure as you wish. This does only part of what you wish - it
routes the email from a particular account to a particular folder. Make sure
you have version 1.04 from SUPER.


>
> With several cfg files, one could create an "inbox assistant" batch file.
>
> Plus. if there was a headers only option, it would be possable to get only
> particular messages.
>
> cclxpop.HeadersOnly=1
>
> so with some macro programing it might be possable to create a cfg below
>
> cclxpop.retrieve.from=johndoe@domain.com
> cclxpop.retrieve.from=mr.big@ibm.com
> cclxpop.retrieve.from=myfriend@hotmail.com
> cclxpop.retrieve.from=cheepcheep@juno.com
>
> Just a thought.
You already have the "paradigm" for what I discussed above - so you are ahead
of the game.

ÝParadigm is one of those workds that quickly became vogue, that I have quickly
come to detest. Right up there with words that aren"t words that end in "ize",
for example 'Operationalize'¨


>
> Thanks again for all your efforts.
>
> Don.


Don - All my efforts were quite frankly aimed at helping me - but I am more
than willing to share! Glad you use and enjoy the program.

Brian McIlvaine

ccLXPOP email tool for the HPLX - Version 1.04
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Hi Steve,
you are fully right I'm as well very happy with my 200lx forget about ce
there is no alternative to the 200lx. I'm hoping that there will be mor
eproper software available.
200LX with some backlight bit more speed infinding that's  it. Enjoy it
regards, michael

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:48:20 -0400
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"Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> wrote:

> I have 2 double speed 200LX's.  I've used
> one or the other every day for over 3 years, and NEVER had a problem which I
> could trace to the double speed feature.  It is a much nicer interface.  I
> was surprised how much difference it made

Nicely put.  I have had my double speed 200LX since Jan 14th,
1995 when I installed it myself at a NJ/NY Area HP Palmtop
User group meeting in a member's apartment in Manhattan.  I was
given the crystal and the instructions (in Japanese, but it
had many color pictures) as a gift from a member of the
Japanese user group that pioneered the technique in Japan in
1994.

I have not had any trouble with the double speed or any
incompatabilities that were a problem.  I highly recommend the
double speed upgrade.


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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:31:22 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones, Jr. <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras & POST


> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:47, Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
writes:
> >
> >On a totally unrelated note - I have decided that ccLXPOP is a lot of
> >effort without much payoff and am using POST again.

I hope this doesn't have anything to do with my win modem woes.  If it is
any confort, Goin' Postal doesn't work with my win modem either.   And
remember, a freeware product doesn't *require* support (that's why I posted
my original complaints to the list, not to you).   I do wish you would
continue improving the basic functionality of ccLXPOP.
I am planning to solve my problems by buying an external modem.

I wonder if Post/LX works with win modems . . .

Domingo

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>
> Sorry here this Brian!
>
> But now that I have ccLXPOP and PNR setup and running just the way I want.
> I'm sticking with them until the end.

How is ccLXPOP and PNR different from just LXPOP and PNR?  Just wondering.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:32:16 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 4:36 PM
Subject: LXTCP


> Since I couldnt find my manual I used the settings in a MDM file
> downloaded from ccMail's FTP site.  Turning RTS/CTS on did it for me.

How do you do that last thing?  Where is the FTP site?

TIA

Domingo

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:34:49 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Federico de Argentina


> Out of curiosity, I fed Babelfish "user" and asked for Spanish... it shot
> back "utilizador"... I can see the connection with "utilizer," but what's
> the distinction between utilizador and usuario?

Same difference.  :-)

Usage is context dependent, but either word can be used to mean the same
thing.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:51:50 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> I wonder if Post/LX works with win modems . . .

As best I know, Win Modems are cheap. The reason: much of the function has
been taken out and put into software which runs on the deaktop where the
winmodem is plugged. So it loads up your cpu on the desktop rather than have
chips in the modem, so that is why these are so much cheaper.

It is not likely that the Win modem will run on anyapplication on the palmtop.
It has nothing to do with the apps but with the fact that you are missing the
software that provides the functions for this modem. This software is
Windows-specific.

So it is cheap, but uselss on the palmtop.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:02:07 -0700
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Saddly I see IBM is now marketing a WinCE machine. It has
had a pilot clone called
workpad now it has a workpad that runs WinCE Pro and looks
like a cut down thinkpad.

I guess I'll have to give up hoping for a "WarpPad" as
future tool.

On another note; does anyone know, really know, Where in the
new HP the 200LX ended up?

I'm hoping that it was left with calculators and the WinCe
stuff went with computers.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:24:58 -0700
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After getting my new PC setup (my old PC's HD crashed), I just tried to
install CPACK but I can't find the diskettes.  Can't even remember if they
were 5.25" or 3.5" floppies.  Anyways, I was wondering if some kind soul
out there could email me a zipped copy.  I don't know of any way that I can
prove that I owned a legitimate copy but I did, really!

TIA,

Larry Soo

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:26:30 GMT
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Hi Andreas,
 hi list,

>
> I use it to send and receive phone book entries (vCard format) and
> appointment book entries (vCalendar format) to and from my Nokia 8810
> GSM phone.

Do all Nokias with IR use these transfer formats? I'm considering
buying a Nokia 6150, so this is very interesting to me!


> Some uploming software that is currently being tested will be able to
> make use of IR.EXE.

Could you specify this a little bit? Which software?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:54:41 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Do all Nokias with IR use these transfer formats? I'm considering
> buying a Nokia 6150, so this is very interesting to me!

The 61xx Nokia phones do not use IrDA. They use a proprietary IR format
that is solely supported by some Windows software. I don't know why
Nokia did that crippling to those otherwise great phones. All other
models (as far as I know) use standard formats.

> > Some uploming software that is currently being tested will be able to
> > make use of IR.EXE.
>
> Could you specify this a little bit? Which software?

It will be announced as soon as it is ready.

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I'm working on a C plotting library that you can link into your program.
It is based on the old FORTRAN standby PLOTS set of library calls.  I'm
using the PAL library, and was surprised at how easy it has been to write
the functions so far.  As I started to tackle the AXIS function, I
suddenly realized that I can't find a method to rotate the output
font for the vertical Y axis.  None of the text-drawing functions
have an angle as their argument.  Can this be done?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:34:15 -0700
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Stan,
Have you seen the pricing that They're asking for the capabilities ..I have
looked at at&t CONTACT..that contains both wireless and plugin modem for
size/capability on the road ratio

I feel the HP people have snubbed all of us that believe in the
PalmtopFootprint/capability...all the backlit screens have CE...I'll stop

John

At 11:48 PM 6/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
>"Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
>> I have 2 double speed 200LX's.  I've used
>> one or the other every day for over 3 years, and NEVER had a problem
which I
>> could trace to the double speed feature.  It is a much nicer interface.  I
>> was surprised how much difference it made
>
>Nicely put.  I have had my double speed 200LX since Jan 14th,
>1995 when I installed it myself at a NJ/NY Area HP Palmtop
>User group meeting in a member's apartment in Manhattan.  I was
>given the crystal and the instructions (in Japanese, but it
>had many color pictures) as a gift from a member of the
>Japanese user group that pioneered the technique in Japan in
>1994.
>
>I have not had any trouble with the double speed or any
>incompatabilities that were a problem.  I highly recommend the
>double speed upgrade.
>
>
>Stan
>
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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:28:36 +0100
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Thanks to everyone who did respond to my questions regarding ds
software compatibility. Now I see that there are much fewer
problems that I did expect.

Now I would like to know whether it is very difficult to do the
upgrade myself. I am no hardware expert at all, never did open
my Hp200 before, though I did install several hardware
components at my desktop in the past, so I am not generally
afraid of touching hardware pieces.

How much experience is needed (soldering?), how big is the risk
to destroy the hplx (= catastrophy) or the upgrade chip. Yes, I
am also one of those poor german students :), if I had a larger
budget I would surely not wonder about doing it myself.


Reinhard



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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:40:04 +0000
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The shift arrow key scancodes are also available on the desktop.
On my desktop these are the arrow keys on the separate number
block. If you are not sure, which key produces which scancode,
you should use my SCANCODE utility from SUPER. It works on
every DOS machine and helps you to find out identical scancodes.

Run SCANCODE on the palmtop and on the desktop. Press the key
in question on the palmtop and then try to find on your desktop
the key (or key sequence) producing the same code for all three
ways of identifying a key, because you cannot know, which
method the program is using you want to run on the palmtop and
desktop.

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:40:06 +0000
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I just received a brandnew 96mb and 48mb SanDisk CF card.
I ran LXCIC/S to see the manufacturer tuple. The output for
both cards is identical:


LXCIC v1.4 (c) 99 Stefan Peichl, Heidelberg
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=
=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D=2D
SunDiskloaded resident
Card Power down


I was surprised to see, that SanDisk uses as manufacturer it's
original name SunDisk! It is also nice to know, that the cards
power down by themselves.

These cards have no delay at all after power on. That is, if
you are sitting on A:> and start a program by typing in it's
name, the program starts immediately, no matter if you just
turned the unit off and on again.

However, if you use a program like FILER, LIST or DIR which
displays the directory *AND* tells you the remaining bytes left
on drive A:, then and *ONLY* then, you have a delay after power
on, which is 2 seconds for both cards on a double speed LX.

NOTE: This only happens once after every power on, if you run
one of those programs. But if you use for example HDM to start
a program stored on A:, you have no such delay after power on.

I tend to say, this is not a card's delay but a program's delay
while calculating the free amount based on allocation units.

On a double speed LX, you can roughly estimate one second delay
per 10,000 allocation units. Because the total number of
allocation units is restricted to 65.535, the maximal delay
should be 6 seconds, no matter, who large the card is.

The 96mb came formatted with 23.424 allocation units (4KB each)
The 48mb came formatted with 23.393 allocation units (2KB each)

The cards are also extremely fast. I usually use Mack's EMM for
SC on my 64mb C: drive. A full (600kb) work area switch takes
1 second using EMM. Just for fun I installed a large
CAROUSEL.TMP file on the CF and configured SC to use it. I was
very surprised to see the same work area switch lasting only
3 seconds. On my old 10mb Sundisk card, it took 30 seconds!

That means, the new cards not only have higher capacity, but
also 10x more speed than cards manufactured in 1993, and are
almost as fast as RAM.

All this may only be true for SanDisk, because I have no CF
card of other manufacturers available.

Stefan

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Hi,

I still really like ToDo.exm.  I cant figure out how to get my "done"
todos to automatically move to the designated file set up in
options/file output setting.  I've have my output file (done.tbd) in
the same directory as my todo.tdb (c:\todo\todo.tdb) and have set "#
keep done todo" to 1.  Anyone having luck with this function??.  The
done todos stay put in todo.tdb.  Should the output file be a csv file?

Also, does anyone know what exttl.exe is used for?  Anyone have success
in doing a "non-case sensitive" search?

Any help would be much appreciated.  I still really like ToDo even
though I cant figure these things out.

Regards,

Barbara Moy

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:47:09 -0700
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Folks,

Does anyone know the story of the goose that laid the golden
eggs?  Lets all just tell
Andreas how much we love all his software and then give him
some space.


Andreas Garzotto wrote
> I would highly appreciate if you directed further similar requests to
> D&A directly instead of putting us under public pressure.

> Anyway, I will certainly think twice before making any further
> products (that are related to D&A Software Inc.) freeware :-(

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Folks,

The new IBM MicroDrives are shipping!
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/

I can't buy one today but I'm sure one of the list member
can and will so please let us all know how it stacks up to
the flashram cards and compactflash.

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:27:50 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Errors found, F parameter not specified
> Corrections will not be written to disk
>
>    48 lost allocation units found in 3 chains.
>      24576 bytes disk space would be freed

Running with the /f parm should not cause any real problems - just do as
you suggested - examine the chk files and then delete them if useless.

The problem can come if chkdsk finds cross-linked files (a rare problem)
- those, it is best to fix yourself.  Try seeing which files are
"cross-linked" and see if one or the other is still good - copy it to
another disk and then delete both linked files.

As usual, others will correct me if I misstated!

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:27:53 +0000
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> I know some here have had plenty of luck w/ this modem Ýbut
> lost any advice files you may've sent....¨.  I get tone, and
> in the case of WWW/LX, I even connect briefly Ýbefore getting
> an error message of, "Aborting! Broken connection while
> waiting for 'D:' Exiting..."  It won't even connect from the
> built-in data com program.

If something is really "waiting for D:" - that is the rom drive on the
HP and probably is the problem.  You may have a bad reference if you
refer to the d: drive anywhere.

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:27:20 -0700
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http://www.storage.ibm.com/press/hdd/micro/990617.htm

Some quotes from the press release:


June 17, 1999 . . . IBM announced today it has started
shipping the IBM 340 megabyte (MB) microdrive, the world s
smallest
hard disk drive, to its initial key customers.

The manufacturer s suggested retail price of the microdrive
kit, including a
340 MB microdrive, PC Card adapter and field case, is $499
(U.S.). IBM
microdrives will be available in Japan and the U.S. in
retail stores by early
summer.

The microdrive has a disk platter the size of a large coin
and weighs less
than a AA battery. IBM microdrive uses high-performance,
time-proven hard
disk drive technology to store information. The drive has a
much lower
cost-per-megabyte and holds more content than alternate
small-format storage technologies.

IBM microdrive fits into the industry-standard CF+ Type II
slot that has
become increasingly popular in the digital, hand-held
devices markets.
Microdrive also can be used in a PC Card Type II slot, using
a PC Card
adaptor.


IBM microdrive specifications
Capacities: 340 or 170 MB
Average seek time: 15 ms
Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
ma)
Length: 1.68 inches (42.8mm) x width: 1.43 inches (36.4mm) x
height: .19 inches (5.0mm)
Weight: 16 grams
Areal density: 5.04 billion bits per square inch
Disk platters: One
Media transfer rate is 22.6-45.2 Mb/sec
Sustained data rate: 1.8 MB/sec (min)/3.0 MB/sec (max)

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:43:06 -0500
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ftp.ccmail.com

Cant recall the path but it wasnt to hard to find.  The modem string to turn on
RTS/CTS for my modem is

AT&R0S58=2S68=255

Don.


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From: Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 4:36 PM
Subject: LXTCP


> Since I couldnt find my manual I used the settings in a MDM file
> downloaded from ccMail's FTP site.  Turning RTS/CTS on did it for me.

How do you do that last thing?  Where is the FTP site?

TIA

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:35:30 +0000
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MACK:

Query:  Is there anyway IN ADVANCE to determine if the screen will
"blur" when the unit is double-speeded?  I understand it is the
screen/lcd itself and not any particular chip in the hp that determines
blur?

Would installing the driver in a normal-speed machine possibly help
determine if the screen would be blurred after a speed upgrade? (G)

Might you or Stephan be able to write a small program that would help
determine the blur-state in advance? (G)

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:34:36 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Query:  Is there anyway IN ADVANCE to determine if the screen will
> "blur" when the unit is double-speeded?  I understand it is the
> screen/lcd itself and not any particular chip in the hp that determines
> blur?

Sorry, but I don't believe this is possible.  I would love to be proved
wrong, though.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:38:00 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 6/20/1999 01:35:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> Query:  Is there anyway IN ADVANCE to determine if the screen will
>  "blur" when the unit is double-speeded?

The only blurring in question takes place when the driver is not loaded.
Some (including mine) are reasonably usable in the absence of the driver.
Others are said to be much worse.  Mack provides a short debug script which
will fix those, while the driver is being set up.  (That is, while you
re-write autoexec.bat and config.sys, if you don't have good copies, or
download the driver, if need be.)

Once the driver is loaded, the display is better than stock.

There was a time when my only flash card was compressed with Stacker.  In
those days, I had a real problem if I somehow needed a hard reset, with
erasure of the C: drive.  (It only happened once.  I promptly got an
unstacked card.)  I did have cpack and the needed files on my portable, so I
got there.  Stacker was actually more trouble than the double speed driver.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:21:18 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Chris,

> Just got a new laptop.  I see that the built-in IR has the choices of
> being configured as (a) ASK, (b) IrDA1.0 or (c) IrDA1.1.
>
> Anyone using such an interface to communicate w/their palmtop?

My girlfriend's laptop also doesn't have the possibility to use HPSIR,
so I tried to communicate to my 200LX with - I think - IrDA, and it
worked!

So simply try it out - Probably this IrDA setting was similar to your
IrDA 1.0. IrDA 1.1 is AFAIK for faster connections, and the HP isn't
able to use more than 115200 bps. So IrDA 1.1 shouldn't work at all.

It may be that I don't remember right and the working connection wasn't
the IrDA but the ASK. But as I said: _one_ of them worked (with
Transfile 200 and filer)!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:21:23 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
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Hi Chris again,

I've made several backups this way (Sandisk CF --> Win98 laptop)
without care about anything you mentioned....

it everytime worked without problems.

Now I'm using a CF reader for my desktop (connected to the parallel
port) - it works like a PCMCIA-slot: does a beep when the card is
inserted and a new drive letter appears in explorer. Also no problems.

The only thing windows does with the card is making a 'recycled'
directory (for the 'papierkorb' (German) - I think it's called
'Recycled' in the english versions of windows). You can deelete it
without pproblems on your palmtop.

GTX
daniel

> Question:  Does win98 know that my FLASH card is a plain FAT, and
> will it treat it properly as such?  If not, can I tell it?  I've read
> before on the list that some of you backup/restore to/from your laptops,
> so surely this is a solvable problem.  My fear is that the laptop will
> modify the card/FAT in some manner that the palmtop won't be able to
> access it anymore.


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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:10:37 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
>ma)


This would rule out using it on the 200LX. Unless somebody came up with a
cheater battery. Then again, we could always just try and see. Anybody who
wants to put their 200LX on the alter? There are prismatic cells available,
one could maybe make a small and thin pack? How about boosting the internal
power management? Is that possible, Mack?

>Length: 1.68 inches (42.8mm) x width: 1.43 inches (36.4mm) x
>height: .19 inches (5.0mm)
>Weight: 16 grams


:-) Amazing, really!

br

Franklin

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:42:43 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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When my 2MB 200LX was behaving erratically recently, I tried the ESCAPE +
ON tests. The RAM test would stop at different places at different times
and show messages like:
"RAM2 Bad", "RAM3 Bad" or even "1 MB OK". What it is telling me that the
first MB seems to be OK but the second MB has intermittent problems, and
sometimes the machine is unable to even recognise the existence of the
second MB.

Could this be the reason for my nagging data corruption problems? At
various stages I thought I had finally identified the 'rogue' program that
corrupted the data immediately upon running, but could it be only a
manifestation of the RAM problem?

An immediate outcome of getting this error was that I ordered a new
DoubleSpeed unit loaded with mega RAMs from Thaddeus. However, I would like
to know if there is an easy way to fix the RAM problems in my current unit.

Many thanks

Anand.

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:11:24 -0400
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: APEX Modems w/ 200LX
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Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:01:02 -0500 (EST)

1 day 19h28m26s ago ...
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Tim wrote:

> ...
> I've never been able to make my Apex Data ÝSmart Modular
> Technologies division¨ "Mobile Plus Cellular" v.34 modem
> to work w/ my 200LX (or my old 1 MB 100LX, for that matter).
>
> ...

OK, I'm using the APEX right now(landline), no special settings, just
the same as I use for my XJ2144. Here is my MODEM Init string from
WWW.CFG:

ModemInit=3DAT&F&C1&D2&K3

I'm sorry I haven't been following your thread too closely, what
exactly is hapening when you try to access the MODEM?

If you go to DataComm and type ATZ, do you get an OK? How about ATF?
ATI3 (That should tell you the cellular driver is not loaded...you have
to have a cellular cable connected)

Let me know what's going on.
Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:04:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@bellsouth.net>
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Hello HPLX compatriots

I would like to be able to run a DOS program (Topcard by Daniel Joseph
Oak) from the appointment book. Actually, I can get the program to
run, I just can't get the HP back to the topcard display after it
runs.

My AB description is: |C:\TOPCARDS\TOPCARD.COM and I place the
upside-down question mark in the LOCATION field. Unfortunately, this
method causes the HP to lock up requiring a CTRL|ALT|DEL to get it
going again.

However, I have also tried having the AB call a macro which actually
does run the program without locking up but I'm left stuck in DOS
after the program closes and no amount of extra keypresses at the end
of the macro will get me out. The presence of the upside-down question
mark makes no difference. It seems as though once the TOPCARD program
runs, the macro no longer has control.

TIA

Jack LaRosa          mailto: jlarosa@bellsouth.net
Using DS/DM HP200LX
Alabama, USA

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:02:38 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:58:14 -0400 (EDT)

39m54s ago ...
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Jack LaRosa wrote:

> Hello HPLX compatriots
>
> I would like to be able to run a DOS program (Topcard by Daniel Joseph
> Oak) from the appointment book. Actually, I can get the program to
> run, I just can't get the HP back to the topcard display after it
> runs.
>
> My AB description is: |C:\TOPCARDS\TOPCARD.COM and I place the
> upside-down question mark in the LOCATION field. Unfortunately, this
> method causes the HP to lock up requiring a CTRL|ALT|DEL to get it
> going again.

Hi-

You need Q in the LOCATION field, not the upside-down question mark.
The upside-down question mark is used in the comment field of the add
an application screen, but not in the Appt Book.

This is on page 3-15 in my 200LX manual.

HTH

-Peniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:47:03 +0000
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Tim,

I use the Apex Data V.34 all the time in my 200LX with CSI and ATT =
worldnet.  Just throw the thing in an enevlope to me And I will try it =
with a known to work setup and I will test it for you.  Cable not needed, =
I have one.  Email me if I can help.    =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:06:05 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Connectivity pack

Stan the man,
>There is no way the CPACK will run in a 384K
DOS box.  It needs at least 550K or maybe more.
>
Sorry 'bout that, meant 584 K.
Still don't don't fly.....

yor pal al.........................

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:12:01 -0700
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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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i have a simple tech double slot reader in a bay.  it works great but
requires an isa card which they supply however you need a free irq

> ----------
> From:         Mack BaggetteÝSMTP:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Mack Baggette
> Sent:         Saturday, June 19, 1999 2:53 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
>
> <<Also, I'd like to add a PCMCIA card slot on my home PC. Has anyone
> found a good and cheap way to do this?>>
>
> I use a Linksys PCMCIA adapter I found for around $100.  I know it is
> expensive compared to the Necx deal folks found a while back, but it works
> great with every card I have put in it so far.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:56:24 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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I use Software Carousel with a swap file on the palmtop's c: (internal RAM)
and am considering the possibility of using EMM for the location of the
swap file.

However, I'm wondering if that would really improve switching speed on a
palmtop.

I realize how using EMM for a swap file on a desktop system is faster than
using a swap file on the desktop's c: hard drive.

However, on a palmtop, since EMM is using the palmtop's internal RAM (just
like C: drive is), would using EMM for the location of SC's swap file
really result in any increase in speed?

=================================
>Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:40:06 +0000
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>        Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
>Subject:      SanDisk CF cards
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> I usually use Mack's EMM for SC on my 64mb C: drive.

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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      ccLXPOP

  I'm just curious. Can anyone give me a quick "yes" or "no" about
whether ccLXPOP already offers a quick and easy way to include an email's
text into it's reply so the quoted text can be edited and referred to
when answering questions?

  If ccLXPOP already offers that kind of basic functionality, I'll just
have to take a closer look at ccLXPOP and then decide whether to start
looking for a conventional ISP who offers POP compatible email.

  ccLXPOP sound's absolutely amazing. My hat is off to it's author for
his innovation and his kindness in sharing it with us all! :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:25:29 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Subject:      Exchange Server
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Content-Type: text/plain

I dropped my ISP account about 6 months ago because I can access email
and the internet for free by dialing in to my work.
My work uses MS Exchange Server for its email, and I use Outlook for
email at both home and at work.
Is there a mail program for the 200LX that works with MS Exchange
Server? It would be nice to be able to dial in to work with my palmtop
to check mail.

TIA,
Steve

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:35:42 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: C: vs. EMM for Swap File
Comments: cc: weather@EXIS.NET

   >I use Software Carousel with a swap file on the palmtop's c:
   >(internal RAM) and am considering the possibility of using EMM for
   >the location of the swap file.
   >However, I'm wondering if that would really improve switching speed
   >on a palmtop.
   >I realize how using EMM for a swap file on a desktop system is
   >faster than using a swap file on the desktop's c: hard drive.
   >However, on a palmtop, since EMM is using the palmtop's internal
   >RAM (just like C: drive is), would using EMM for the location of
   >SC's swap file really result in any increase in speed?
Message-Id: <19990621033549.ZJAA14494@Ý12.72.154.49¨>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:35:49 +0000

EMM is the way to go.  It becomes a resource that's shared by not only SC,
but also by other programs that use EMM (such as PKZIP).

Also there may be an increase in speed with EMM since the overhead of file
handling is avoided using the direct addressing software in EMM's disk
access.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:26:54 -0700
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              Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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Thanks very much for everyone's help.


...larry soo

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:59:37 -0700
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Microdrives
Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Really?   I thought that was the same power requirements as
the San Disk Compact Flash Ram that works so well in the
HP200LXs?

Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> >Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
> >ma)
>
> This would rule out using it on the 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:04:38 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
Comments: To: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Hi Curtis,

> Also, I'd like to add a PCMCIA card slot on my home PC. Has anyone
> found a good and cheap way to do this?

Yes: If you only want to handle flash cards with it (no modems, network
cards or other stuff) there is a very cheap and reliable solution:

I bought a compact flash card reader/writer which is connected to the
parallel port of the PC. costs about 150 DM (~= 85 US$). There is also
a device which handles ATA flash cards and also versions of both
devices for the USB port.

Mine is 'made' by HAMA (it's not really made by HAMA, HAMA is only
written on the unit (it's a seller, I think).

Tomorrow I'll look for a chipset number or something other which could
identify this device, and I'll post it to you (to the list).

GTX
daniel

P.S.: I just found the manual: Also in the maunal there is no
manufacturer, but the device is called 'MDCFE'. There is another one
without a eject button for the CF: 'MDCF'.
This one for ATA flash cards and hard disks is called 'MDI-H'.
Maybe you can find it by a search in the web.

All for the parallel port.
I don't know how the USB devices are called.

My device even works in series with a printer _AND_ a parallel port ZIP
drive (I cannot work with both drives at the same time, but I don't
have to unplug one to use the other, and the drivers also don't
interfere with each other)!!!

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Date:         Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:15:48 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> Really?  I thought that was the same power requirements as the San
> Disk Compact Flash Ram that works so well in the HP200LXs?

Nope.  Not even close.  The Microdrive is rotating media, and therefore
uses a LOT more power.  And also, the Microdrive is a CompactFlash Type II
card-- does anybody know if that will even fit in the 200LX's socket?
When Hal and I saw a phony sample at Comdex, it looked a little too thick
to me.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:28:37 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: Exchange Server
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Steve Dowell wrote:
> Is there a mail program for the 200LX that works with MS Exchange
> Server? It would be nice to be able to dial in to work with my palmtop
> to check mail.

This depends on how MS server is set up. If it is set up to support
POP3, you can use any of the email programs that work on the palmtop.
If it is configured to use the proprietary MAPI protocol only, you are
forced to use Windows software to access it. You might want to ask
those in charge of the server.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:36:55 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: ds & hardware was: double speed & software
Comments: To: Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi Reinhard,

> Ý...¨
> How much experience is needed (soldering?), how big is the risk
> to destroy the hplx (= catastrophy) or the upgrade chip. Yes, I
> am also one of those poor german students :), if I had a larger
> budget I would surely not wonder about doing it myself.

From poor student to poor student:

I'm considering exactly this too.

But I think it's better to spend the 65.00 (?) DM extra to have
(a) not the risk to destroy something and
(b) the warranty on the whole machine for one year instead on only
the ungraded parts.

I think I could make the upgrade without problems, but it's safer to me
to let it make. Although I don't have _this_ much money....

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:37:00 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Microdrives are shipping
Comments: To: patrickwest@uswest.net
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Hi friends,

> The new IBM MicroDrives are shipping!
> http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/
>
> I can't buy one today but I'm sure one of the list member
> can and will so please let us all know how it stacks up to
> the flashram cards and compactflash.

STOP!

AFAIK these drives draw _way_ too much current (abt. 500 mA?).
If one uses such a drive in the LX, the PCMCIA port will not survive, I
think! It only supports devices up to 150 mA.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:37:04 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Microdrives
Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
MIME-version: 1.0
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Hi friends,

> >Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
> >ma)
>
> This would rule out using it on the 200LX. Unless somebody came up with a
> cheater battery. Then again, we could always just try and see. Anybody who

STOP agian!!!

No other battery could solve this problem! Pleae don't try it - it will
probably burn up your PCMCIA driver chip!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:28:51 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>> >Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
>> >ma)
>>
>> This would rule out using it on the 200LX. Unless somebody came up with a
>> cheater battery. Then again, we could always just try and see. Anybody
who
>
>STOP agian!!!
>
>No other battery could solve this problem! Pleae don't try it - it will
>probably burn up your PCMCIA driver chip!


I don't see why not. If the power handling could be modified it should work.
The power is probably just over two or a few pins. Most of the pins just
handle signal. If one could lift a leg or two on the pcmcia controller and
solder hokus-pokus it should work. Basically a boosting transistor switch.

It surprises me that this has not been tried before. After all we have a lot
of NIC, modem and SCSI cards that draw too much power. Why cannot one patch
the power controller? My HP digital camera draws spikes of over 1 A from
AAs! It could work normal when one hasn't an external power supply; boosted
when connected to the mains or whatever.

 This would require intimate knowledge of the hardware and I suppose this
calls on Mack. :-) But the Japanese users haven't done this either, it
seems, so maybe it's a pipe dream?

br

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:31:35 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: Microdrives
Comments: To: patrickwest@uswest.net
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>Really?   I thought that was the same power requirements as
>the San Disk Compact Flash Ram that works so well in the
>HP200LXs?


It says about 150 mA somewhere in the docs... CF is about 40-50 mA, IIRC.

br

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:49:01 -0700
Reply-To:     patrickwest@uswest.net
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Patrick West wrote:
> >Really?   I thought that was the same power requirements as
> >the San Disk Compact Flash Ram that works so well in the
> >HP200LXs?

Franklin replied:
>
> It says about 150 mA somewhere in the docs... CF is about 40-50 mA, IIRC.
>
David Sargeant added:
> Nope.  Not even close.  The Microdrive is rotating media, and therefore
> uses a LOT more power.  And also, the Microdrive is a CompactFlash Type II
> card-- does anybody know if that will even fit in the 200LX's socket?
> When Hal and I saw a phony sample at Comdex, it looked a little too thick
> to me.


Well, I stand corrected.  I believed the IBM press release
which talked about Handheld
PCs and stated that the size and power was the ame as CFs.

Any Techie types want to talk to IBM about the 200LX?

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:05:17 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Exchange Server
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You can check easily if the Exchange server has the POP interface enabled.   Assuming you use Windows 95 or NT, there is a built-in Telnet.

Start it from the command line by just typing 'telnet'.  A blank window appears.   Select 'Connect' then 'Remote System'.  Enter the name of the exchange server, change the port to '110' leave term type as VT100 and click on connect.  You will see somthing like this:

+OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2232.11 ready

Type (not echoed) QUIT and it will drop the connection.  If that works, go ahead and start work with Goin' Postal or any other POP mail program for the LX.  If it does not, check first what you entered, then talk to the exchange server support people.  Depending on your company attitude, they may either be helpful or try to fire you for using software that they'd prefer you not to.  Actually even if it does work you may choose to admit to using their POP interface or not.

Remember with POP3 you only see the inbox, and you need to think a bit about whether you keep mail on the server when read, or pull it onto the LX (and remove it from the server).   The recent versions of Exchange have an IMAP interface too (but only if your support staff enable it); that can work with fancier mailers and supports the other folders.  AFAIK there are not IMAP mailers on the LX (but I guess Pine might run), but I've not looked as our exchange server is not supposed to support IMAP.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:29:37 +0800
Reply-To:     Roger Shea <rogerswn@ctimail.com>
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Here is part of the data sheet:
Power                              +3.3V power supply  +5V power supply

Voltage requirement (auto-detect)  +3.3VDC, ?5%       or +5VDC, ?%

Current (write)                    300 mA                 330 mA

Current (standby)                  65 mA                 80 mA

Power consumption
efficiency (watts/MB)             0.00215/ 0.00429         0.00353/ 0.00706

Roger S.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:49:22 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Well, it is time again! :)

WWW.EXE is updated to version 2.1a. Hopefully y'all suffering from AT&T are
gonna like this. Other minor issues (ident protocol in some obscure usage)...

POST.EXE is now updated too at version 2.2d. This one has a bunch of niceties.

As before, WWWLX.ZIP contains 4 files: WWW21.EXE, POST22.EXE, HV22.EXE, and
README. These files incorporate the changes announced here and on the Webpage.

For your convenience, there is also a self-extracting archive named WWWLX.EXE
(a little larger than its .ZIP counterpart.)

If you must jump to see the changes :-), then go to www.dasoft.com, click on
the update date (21 June 1999) to read the announcements, locate the top one,
and there is a link there to the downloads, as well as the list of changes
(well, the most significant anyway...)

We added two new phone numbers: +1 310 388 5400 (Voice) and +1 388 5600 (Fax).
The Tokyo number remains intact (+81 3 5776 3400 - order faxes only.) You can
find these numbers by clicking on the main page, link "Contact Info".

I am announcing hereby our intent to start requiring all WWW/LX Plus queries
to support to be accompanied by the Username and Regid issued to you when
you purchased the product. If you are only testing WWW/LX Plus and therefore
have no registration information, please state that in your message. I am
totally aware that it'll take time to get used to this, and that is perfectly
fine.

Thank you.

Best Regards,

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software
 http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:57:54 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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At ftp.dasoft.com in directory /pub/WWW there is now available:
sms.zip.

This archive contains ROBOT/LX scripts that enable you to read and
compose SMS messages from within POST/LX. The archive also contains
a script to exchange the phone book of a GSM phone with the palmtop.

Note that the scripts require the latest versions of ROBOT/LX and
WWW/LX that are now available at www.dasoft.com.

Andreas

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:06:32 EDT
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If it's a CF Type II, it should fit.  But I don't intend to try it.

Has anyone determined whether the DOS software drivers for the Zip 100
parallel model will also work with the Zip 250 parallel model?  Iomega seem
to bundle the drivers for both into one package on its website.  Unless
someone can figure out an external power source for the IBM microdrive, this
seems like the only "upgrade" path available for mass storage.

-roger-

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:07:41 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Thank you!  That worked great!  I got the message I was looking for. So
now I guess I can just start trying different email packages and see if
I can connect and get mail. Excellent!  : )

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brown, William ÝSMTP:wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK¨
        Sent:   Monday, June 21, 1999 2:05 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Exchange Server

        You can check easily if the Exchange server has the POP
interface enabled.   Assuming you use Windows 95 or NT, there is a
built-in Telnet.

        Start it from the command line by just typing 'telnet'.  A blank
window appears.   Select 'Connect' then 'Remote System'.  Enter the name
of the exchange server, change the port to '110' leave term type as
VT100 and click on connect.  You will see somthing like this:

        +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2232.11 ready



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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:24:54 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      PKZIP for backup
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Hi friends,

I'd like to initialize an automatic backup every night from C: to the
flash card.

Therefor I want to use PKZIP.

Can anyone please give me the _exact_ syntax which is necessary for
PKZIP to save _all_ (even the empty) directories with _every_ file into
one archive?
And also this one for restoring the whole directory tree again?

Everytime I tried to do this, PKZIP only restored all files into
_one_single_ directory instead every single file in his directory where
it belongs!

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:25:30 +0800
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              Hermann Michael Blum <hmblum@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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Joe,

the charm of this camera is that the back of its casing itself is a PCMCIA
card which you can unfold and insert directly into the PC card slot of the
palmtop, i. e. you physically connect both devices without any other media.
The palmtop reads the data (on the smart-media in the camera) like data on
an inserted PCMCIA flash memory card as drive a:. Transfer as rapid as
copying any file from a flashcard to drive c: (i.e. instantaneous without
any hardware or software bottleneck).

Whether you could use the camera to transfer files from inserted smartmedia
in an other format than its own .jpg I'm not sure (will redirect this
therefore to the list again). Probably Bill Childers could help who
referred me to his review of the camera
(http://www.hplx.net/reviews.pdr2.html.) which I only can recommend. I
should have read it earlier because I was not aware of the less
light-sensitive technology (although so far inhouse shots have produced
good pictures for palmtop display), the part describing power-problems
however seems to reflect an earlier version since my palmtop can read all
data on the smart-media flawlessly even with the camera switched off (which
tells me that whatever files are on the smartmedia should be directly
readable by the palmtop - but my common sense approach fails from time to
time when it comes to computing).

Hope that answers your question sufficiently at least for the first part

Hermann Michael Blum
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> From: Joseph J. Kaelin <jjk@jkaelin.ch>
> To: hmblum@SINGNET.COM.SG
> Subject: Smart media / HP200
> Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 3:35 PM
>
> Hermann,
>
> I saw your post on HPLX-L.  I have an Olympus digital camera with
> SmartMedia and am looking for a PCMCIA adapter to transfer pcitures
> to the HP200.  I didn't quite understand what you mean by "LX
> recognizes
> camera as drive a:".  Are you using some kind of adapter for the PCMCIA
> slot?
>
> I have tried a few PCMCIA adapters for SmartMedia on my HP200lx.  The
> Olympus and Fuji adapter reported "device not ready".  A Ricoh Adapter
> (apparently limited to 4 MB cards) read and wrote OK.  I haven't been
> able to find other cards available at dealers and am reluctant to mail
> order until I know for sure what works!
>
> Do have any experience to share?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Kaelin
>
>
>
> --
> Joseph J. Kaelin    Consulting Engineer
> Maienberg 1
> CH-8852 Altendorf
> Switzerland
>
> jjk@jkaelin.ch
> Tel.+41 79 236 3416
> Fax +41 79 237 8336

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On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:24:54 GMT, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> =
wrote:

> Can anyone please give me the _exact_ syntax which is necessary for
> PKZIP to save _all_ (even the empty) directories with _every_ file into
> one archive?
> And also this one for restoring the whole directory tree again?

Please post this to the list.... I have been just copying directories
manually... this may be a bit easier <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:38:13 -0400
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> "Stanley, John L."

>   ESC+SPACE may work in PE, but most peoples fingers are practically
> hard-wired to automatically use the shift-arrows...  (Literally EVERY
> application most people use, LX and desktop, allows using shift-arrows to
> select text.)  What "should" work on all applications is making a selection
> with shift-arrows...

John,

     Actually the shift arrow was originally a number (on a
PC).  Right arrow shifted was six for example.  The text sel-
ection came in Windows software.  For those of us used to 1-2-3
and WordPerfet in DOS, the "new" way is not a convenience.
Data entry in 1-2-3 was very easy the "old" way for instance.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:41:11 +1000
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With regard to the power consumption of the micro drive, haven't people been
using type III pcmcia hard disks in their palmtops? (using an external
adapter)  The micro drive would surely use less power than these drives, and
therefore work (at the very least using an external powered pcmcia double
adapter).

Also, on the subject of type III pcmcia cards, has anyone physically
modified their 200lx to fit one?

> >Really?   I thought that was the same power requirements as
> >the San Disk Compact Flash Ram that works so well in the
> >HP200LXs?
>

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Even tho that's what IBM's specs say, it seems too high. 0.5A x 5V = 2.5W. This
thing will probably sizzle spit. It's advantage however will be keeping your
pocket warm in the middle of winter.

However, power is required for fast access time. Just to keep a motor running,
even a servo of that size, 500mA is ridiculous. There may be a peak starting
current to get the motor started, then die down somewhat.

Or...IBM will need refine the device to reduce power consumption by reducing
access time. Who needs ns access time in a camera?

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> >Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
> >ma)
>
> This would rule out using it on the 200LX. Unless somebody came up with a
> cheater battery. Then again, we could always just try and see. Anybody who
> wants to put their 200LX on the alter? There are prismatic cells available,
> one could maybe make a small and thin pack? How about boosting the internal
> power management? Is that possible, Mack?
>
> >Length: 1.68 inches (42.8mm) x width: 1.43 inches (36.4mm) x
> >height: .19 inches (5.0mm)
> >Weight: 16 grams
>
> :-) Amazing, really!
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>
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Skip my comments. Roger Shea's letter gives reasonable specs.

Bob Meyer wrote:

> Even tho that's what IBM's specs say, it seems too high. 0.5A x 5V = 2.5W. This
> thing will probably sizzle spit. It's advantage however will be keeping your
> pocket warm in the middle of winter.
>
> However, power is required for fast access time. Just to keep a motor running,
> even a servo of that size, 500mA is ridiculous. There may be a peak starting
> current to get the motor started, then die down somewhat.
>
> Or...IBM will need refine the device to reduce power consumption by reducing
> access time. Who needs ns access time in a camera?
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
>
> Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> > >Power requirements: CF+ specification (3.3V/5V +- 5 % at 500
> > >ma)
> >
> > This would rule out using it on the 200LX. Unless somebody came up with a
> > cheater battery. Then again, we could always just try and see. Anybody who
> > wants to put their 200LX on the alter? There are prismatic cells available,
> > one could maybe make a small and thin pack? How about boosting the internal
> > power management? Is that possible, Mack?
> >
> > >Length: 1.68 inches (42.8mm) x width: 1.43 inches (36.4mm) x
> > >height: .19 inches (5.0mm)
> > >Weight: 16 grams
> >
> > :-) Amazing, really!
> >
> > br
> >
> > Franklin
> >
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Jeff,

> > Can anyone please give me the _exact_ syntax which is necessary for
> > PKZIP to save _all_ (even the empty) directories with _every_ file =
into
> > one archive?
> > And also this one for restoring the whole directory tree again?
>
> Please post this to the list.... I have been just copying directories
> manually... this may be a bit easier <g>.

You may try this, (extract of maunaul.txt)

-r   Recurse subdirectories

-rp  Recurse subdirectories
     (preserve the path structure below)

-rP  Recurse subdirectories
     (preserve path structure specified and below)

-r-  Turn off recursion
     (used to override configuration file)

When this option is specified, PKZIP will search the source directory
for subdirectories. If any subdirectories are found, PKZIP searches
them for files. If a further level of subdirectories is found in a
subdirectory, PKZIP will search these as well.

PKZIP will enter as many subdirectory levels as exist.

   pkzip mail.zip -r c:\mymail\*.*

Using the above command, all files contained within the "mymail"
subdirectory, as well as all files within any subdirectories, would
be archived. Only the file names would be retained, and not the names
of the subdirectories.

   pkzip mail2.zip -rp c:\mymail\*.*

The second example would preserve the same files as the first, but
also keep the names of any subdirectories found below the "mymail"
subdirectory. Note that the "mymail" subdirectory itself would not
be retained since the -P is not being used.

   pkzip pay_june.zip -rP d:\payroll\*.*

=0CThe third example will compress all of the files in the payroll
directory, as well as all of the files in any subdirectories. The
-rp would cause the subdirectories to be recursed and stored. The -P
will cause "\payroll" to be stored as well. Without the -P, the
"\payroll" portion of the path would not be stored. This option may
be made the default, see PKZIP Configuration.

**  Please note that paths are not stored when the -r option is
    specified without the p or P option. In order for paths to be
    stored, the -r option must be accompanied by the -p or -P option.

________________________________________________________________


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I looked at the docs and here's what it says to do.  Please test to be sure this gives
the results you are looking for.

Don't know about the empty directories, but the -rp switch (recursive with pathnames)
does a complete disk backup on the current drive.

To backup

pkzip a:zipfile -rp

Would backup the whole c: drive including subdirs if called from the root directory
of c:

If you call it from a directory it backs up that directory also including subdirs.



To restore

pkunzip a:zipfile -d




> On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:24:54 GMT, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone please give me the _exact_ syntax which is necessary for
> > PKZIP to save _all_ (even the empty) directories with _every_ file into
> > one archive?
> > And also this one for restoring the whole directory tree again?
>
> Please post this to the list.... I have been just copying directories
> manually... this may be a bit easier <g>.
>
> Jeff
>
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>
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I use PKZIP for this purpose IIRC
    PKZIP -p -r Zipname *.*
does what I think you want.

To retrieve, and create necessary directory structure if it isn't there
    PKUNZIP -d Zipname
seems to do fine.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I'd like to initialize an automatic backup every night from C: to the
> flash card.
>
> Therefor I want to use PKZIP.
>
> Can anyone please give me the _exact_ syntax which is necessary for
> PKZIP to save _all_ (even the empty) directories with _every_ file into
> one archive?
> And also this one for restoring the whole directory tree again?
>
> Everytime I tried to do this, PKZIP only restored all files into
> _one_single_ directory instead every single file in his directory where
> it belongs!
>
> TNX
> daniel
>

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I use the following to backup my C drive to a Zip file on A:

     pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*

and the following to restore the whole dang mess when the C drive gets fouled up
and I've purged it clean:

     pkunzip -d -Jhrs -o a:\backup\cdrive.zip *.*

I've done this a few times over the last two years, so I know the combination
works.  I rebuild the EMM swap file separately after a full restore.  I'd
imagine that if you wanted to backup just a directory (and its subs)... just
replace "C:\*.*" with the correct drive/directory name.

In regards to the pkzip (backup):

Guenther and others have already noted the -rp swtich  to recurse subdirectories
and store the full pathnames in the zip file.

The -whs says to include hidden and system files.

The -Jhrs says don't mask hidden, system or read-only files.

The -xtremm.swp excludes the EMM swapfile from the backup (where tremm.swp is
the filename).

In regards to the pkunzip (restore):

The assumption is that you're running the command while you're logged onto the C
drive, and the pkunzip command is available....my actual command is
A:\UTL\PKUNZIP

-d says to restore the directory structure

-Jhrs (see above)

-o overwrite existing files

I don't take credit for coming up with this combo... I stole it from another
list member years ago... HTH.

- Longden





"Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM> on 06/21/99 07:30:00 AM

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> > Can anyone please give me the _exact_ syntax which is necessary for
> > PKZIP to save _all_ (even the empty) directories with _every_ file into
> > one archive?
> > And also this one for restoring the whole directory tree again?
>
> Please post this to the list.... I have been just copying directories
> manually... this may be a bit easier <g>.

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There was a recent thread regarding terminal emulations - VT100 IIRC. This
is what I would like to do, if someone could advise on possible problems.
I use IBM 3151 terminals for email access at work. They use RS 422 (not
current)
I would like to purchase a RS 232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use my 200
to access email. I can handle the aspects of that part of the process, but
how do I get the computers to talk the same language? I remember Procomm
having tons of terminal emulations, but I do not have that program anymore.
(Gone with the 5.25 drive... bad move in hindsight)
>>So my questions are this:
>>Is there a program that would emulate the IBM 3151 (IBMs web site was no
>help) What would I have to do to get this work?


What are you connecting to? Mainframe (3270) ?
or AS/400 (5250)?

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Longden,

> I use the following to backup my C drive to a Zip file on A:
>
>      pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*

Amazing mine looks like this:

c:\pkware\pkzip -es -xtremm.swp a:\vol_c\today.zip -bc:\tmp -rP -u -whs =
c:\*.*



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Does anyone know why some .exe programs work in Finder and some don't? I also
can't seem to get LX Pic to work within Finder and have been trying to figure
out how to add individual icons to my applications.
TIA
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I liked your additions:
     -es  to specify Superfast processing
     -rP  to store pathnames specified (in addition to recursed into)
     -bc:\tmp to create the pkzip temp file on a specified drive (I presume
c:\tmp for speed)

I assume pkzip is smart enough not to backup its own temp file.

Have you done any comparisons on time and archive size using -es ?

- Longden





"Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@csi.com> on 06/21/99 08:13:44 AM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
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Subject:  Re: PKZIP for backup




Longden,

> I use the following to backup my C drive to a Zip file on A:
>
>      pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*

Amazing mine looks like this:

c:\pkware\pkzip -es -xtremm.swp a:\vol_c\today.zip -bc:\tmp -rP -u -whs c:\*.*

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Che yo tengo una 95 pero hablo tambien espaniol (castellano para nos
no?)

bueno si puedo ayudar...

saludos

Ricardo Macchiu W. (+tecmetal) wrote:
>
> Ya somos varios locos de palmtop 200lx en espaqol, encantado de
> podercomunicaenos en nuestro idioma.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Federico Nachpitz (+tecmetal) <nachpitzfede@MOVI.COM.AR>
> To:  <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 5:44 PM
> Subject: Federico de Argentina
>
> Hablas Espaqol??
>
> Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustarma tener algzn
> interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas facil comunicar ciertas cosas.
> Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU
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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:05:36 -0400
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04m45s ago ...
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> Does anyone know why some .exe programs work in Finder and some don't? =
I also
> can't seem to get LX Pic to work within Finder and have been trying to =
figure
> out how to add individual icons to my applications.

Hi Tony-

If the program expects to find support or config files in the same
directory as the executable, it'll fail, unless the .xfe or .xfm
provides for change of working directory.  You can do this with a batch
file  e.g.
        @echo off
        a:
        cd \forth
        hp-pygmy.com
Set the .xfe to launch the batch file.   Or use multiple commands
(separated by semicolons) in the .xfe   e.g.
        a:;cd\forth;hp-pygmy

The third way is to create a symbolic link (.xff) file.  In Finder's
file browser, go to the directory with your executable.  Hit ÝSpace¨ to
mark it, then go to either the /Palmtop screen or the palmtop
directory.  Hit ÝCtrl¨Ý-¨ to create the link.  If you have Buddy
active, you'll have to hit ÝCtrl¨Ý-¨ twice.

How are you trying to use LXPic?  The .env file (in the "Execution by
matched file extension" section) should have a line something like:
.pcx .bmp .jpg .gif   ,f        ,lxpic %c
This assumes that lxpic is in your path.  Selecting a graphic in the
file browser, and hitting ÝEnter¨ will display it with lxpic.

To use your icons, just use XF to copy them to your icon.lzh file.
They MUST be in uncompressed format, but XF does it automatically.  The
easiest way is to go to your icon directory (or archive) and mark the
icon(s) you want to use, then hit ÝShift¨ÝEnter¨ to automagically add
'em to icon.lzh  (using ÝCtrl¨ÝEnter¨ does the same for iconfld.lzh).
You may need to rename the icon in icon.lzh to match the .xf? file used
to launch the app.  Then hit F1 (Init) to reinitialize XF and enable
display of the new icons.

Hint:  Be sure to check out the next issue of PTP  8-)

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:11:14 +0800
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After further thoughts on this I became adventurous and tried to write from
the palmtop directly to the smartmedia memory of the inserted camera: it
works! It works even with the camera battery pulled out. This means you
could use this camera as a flash memory substitute, could have (graphic
related) software running directly from the smardmedia memory of the
camera, thus freeing otherwise precious (flash) memory.

Who will ever discover the last new facet of this (as many say antiquated)
jewel?

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:56:30 -0600
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Folks,

  I picked up a package of Software Carousel
version 4.0 this weekend at a flea market and
was wondering if it was useful for the 200lx or
whether I should upgrade to the newer version.

tnx for your advice,
john

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> From: Franklin Ýmailto:franklin@ONLINE.NO¨

> It says about 150 mA somewhere in the docs... CF is about
> 40-50 mA, IIRC.

  Nope.  The Microdrives are not 150mA.  If you look into the
datasheet for the microdrives you'll find:

  Power              +3.3V power supply   +5V power supply
     Voltage            +3.3VDC, 1 5%   or   +5VDC, 15%
     Current (write)    300 mA               330 mA
     Current (standby)  65 mA                80 mA

  Note that this is significantly lower than the CF spec (which lists 500mA
as an upper limit), but it's still far too high for our LX machines.
However, it probably could be used with a DoubleSlot AC adapter or similar
external PCMCIA power booster...

          ... JLS

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:41:17 -0400
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Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:23:27 -0400 (EDT)

Hi group-

You might want to try out Alan Krempler's QuickView program on SUPER,
especially if you're an XF user.  It's a nice small, fast EXM text/hex
viewer. Works very well with XF, and can be used as the primary file
viewer. Instructions are included.  I already have LIST as my primary
viewer, so installed QuickView as an alternate in the key definition
section of finder.env.  It'll do word-wrap, which is sometimes needed
with some docs.

The line is:
=3Dv  ,u      ,$c %p%c; $m {x7b00}{Paste}
(This replaces the lines for V.

Selecting a file in the XF file manager and pressing ÝShift¨Ýv¨ opens
the file in QuickView.

Nice program.  Thanks Alan!


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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:48:33 -0400
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Hi again-

Forgot to mention in the QuickView message that I have it installed in
MoreEXM on key ÝAlt¨Ý4¨.  If you put it somewhere else, you'll have to
change the {x7b00} to the keycode you use...

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:54:08 GMT
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Hi friends (Mack???),

I'm wondering if it's possible to do the following upgrades:

I have a 200 LX 4MB (a) and I maybe get a 700LX 2MB (SN SG61...) (b).

Was it possible to upgrade the (a) to 6 or 8 MB and take the 2MB module
token out of the (a) for upgrading the (b) to 4MB?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:05:40 -0500
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> I have a 200 LX 4MB (a) and I maybe get a 700LX 2MB (SN SG61...) (b).
>
> Was it possible to upgrade the (a) to 6 or 8 MB and take the 2MB module
> token out of the (a) for upgrading the (b) to 4MB?

Unfortunately (b) isn't memory upgradable.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:08:14 -0500
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>  This would require intimate knowledge of the hardware and I suppose this
> calls on Mack. :-) But the Japanese users haven't done this either, it
> seems, so maybe it's a pipe dream?

I believe the 5V supply is upgradable and would require a capacitor and
inducator change.  We have been looking for the right parts, but it hasn't
been a priority.

Cheers,
Mack

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>  This would require intimate knowledge of the hardware and I suppose =
this
> calls on Mack. :-) But the Japanese users haven't done this either, it
> seems, so maybe it's a pipe dream?

I thought everybody knew that Mack was Japanese <g>.

Jeff

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Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:19:49 -0500 (EST)

01h38m32s ago ...
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:23:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hi group-
>
> You might want to try out Alan Krempler's QuickView program on
> SUPER...
>
> Nice program.  Thanks Alan!

     Fantastic Program! I have wanted a good viewer .exm for some time
now...this is a great implementation. There are, however a few
limitations that are not in the DOCS:

When using the file picker, there is a

     - Limit of directories: 50

     - Limit of files 127

Listed in the docs is the page limit of 128.

I contacted Alan, and he said the limits  he used were to keep the
program small. I have requested a version with higher limits for those
of us with memory to burn. I have also encouraged his addition of a
search routine(as mentioned I the Docs). I have also requested a
"cut-to-clipboard", but he said that may not happen for a while(if at
all...of course if others were to also encourage...;-) )

Kudos (Or Kudus if you prefer ;-) ) to Alan!

Cheers,


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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:49:56 -0400
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Hello everyone.  I wonder if someone might help me with a little problem.
In trying to download my email to my desktop, then read it on my palmtop, I
have been experimenting with a shareware program called Wingate.  It
converts your windows desktop into a server, which then can be accesed by
other computers as clients.  The problem I am finding is that the program
requires for the client to run email software which supports a proxy server
and connections to port 110 (rather than ports 1 through 4).  The only
palmtop program I found which claims to work with a Network is Nettamer, but
I could not get it working with Wingate, so now I am trying Pegasus mail
(recommended in the documentation, but I think they are refering to a
Windows program, since I have not yet found the settings they mention in the
dos version).

If someone has tried this already, please keep me from banging my head
against a wall! :-(

TIA

Domingo

P.S. By the way, Wingate is freeware if used with one server and one client
only.  If this can be made to work, it would help many besides myself.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:54:30 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Dreaming about a speed variable LX...

How about if the LX had a 2X crystal but the clock was, by
default, routed through a divide by 2 gate.  This would let the
LX boot up at normal speed (useful for running diags and when
losing the necessary drivers).  When the driver is run it would
cause the divide by 2 gate to be bypassed letting the LX run at
full speed.  This control of the basic clock would also allow a
way to truly slow down the LX instead of just wasting extra
cycles during a timer interrupt.

While I'm day dreaming I'd like to win the lottery too!

cheers... Russ  :-)

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Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:44:07 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again-

Forgot to mention in the QuickView message that I have it installed in
MoreEXM on key ÝAlt¨Ý4¨.  If you put it somewhere else, you'll have to
change the {x7b00} to the keycode you use...


    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


Thanks for the above tip Peniel. I downloaded QuickView last week, but was
unable to get it to work under X-Finder.

Your post showed me why. I had copied the X-Finder line from the QuickView doc
but had a different keycode in my moreexm.ini.

Also to suppress the beep that QuickView makes after opening a file in X-Finder
add a "|" after {Paste}.

example:

%v     ,0      ,u||$c %p%c; $m {xbb00}{Paste}|



Regards,


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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:43:54 -0400
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My Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Sorry 'bout that, meant 584 K.
> Still don't don't fly

Well, the CPACK might be able to run in 584K, but I really
don't remember the exact numbers.  If all it does it tank when
you try to run one of the apps, then maybe there is a corrupted
executable or an incompatability with something in your
Windows.

Have you tried rebooting to a regular MS-DOS prompt (so that
the GUI is not running) and running the CPACK that way?  When
you are here, how much RAM do you have available?


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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:43:56 -0400
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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Query:  Is there anyway IN ADVANCE to determine if the screen will
> "blur" when the unit is double-speeded?  I understand it is the
> screen/lcd itself and not any particular chip in the hp that determines
> blur?

Oh, Fred, just take the plunge and get the double speed
upgrade! <grin>

As long as you keep backup copies of the CONFIG.SYS and the
driver on your C: drive and all of your flashcards, you can
easily restore what you need to make things right again.

Even when the screen is goofy, the palmtop still works fine
and you can fire up 200 and then Filer to move the backups to
the proper place and reboot.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:08:36 -0400
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>AFAIK these drives draw _way_ too much current (abt. 500 mA?).
>If one uses such a drive in the LX, the PCMCIA port will not survive, I
>think! It only supports devices up to 150 mA.

On the other hand, you could use it via an Accurite DoubleSlot...

That has its own power supply, and in fact I can use a Kingston 520MB Type
III hard drive in it.
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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:15:12 +0930
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Folks,

I'm looking for an *open-source* freeware editor to use on the palmtop.

ÝNote that the above sentence says "open-source" - this is a mandatory
requirement - please don't respond with freeware which does not
include the source code or does not allow changing the source code.¨

My preference is for one that has keybindings like Emacs, but then if
it's open-source I can always change the keybindings if it doesn't.

I already know of Freyja.  If anyone knows of others, please email me
privately.  If there are any responses, then I will summarise to the
list in one message after I've collected all the responses.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:51:38 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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From:         Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: QuickView again...
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I didn't even install QuickView into MoreEXM, just selectively launching QV
through X-finder.  I changed my Finder.ENV key definition for:

=v    ,    ,$x c:\bin\quickv.exm;$c %p%c;$m {Paste}

This way I don't tie up a MoreEXM socket in registering QuickView since I
only call it from X-finder anyway.

Does anyone know if I need the path info for the $x (c:\bin\)?

Thanks!

-- Terry

p.s. Thanks, Alan, for such a fine program.  This is exactly what I was
looking for!  I can't wait for the next versions!

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:52:24 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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>   I picked up a package of Software Carousel
> version 4.0 this weekend at a flea market and
> was wondering if it was useful for the 200lx or
> whether I should upgrade to the newer version.

There are 2 different SCs, 1 for normal DOS pcs and 1 for the
LX.  If you got the LX version then v4 sounds pretty old.  If
its the pc version it won't have all the special functions to
work with the LX.

I recommend you get the latest LX version from Thadeaus; I think
the usefulness it provides is well worth the price (@$80USD).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:57:45 -0400
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              Bill Cole <bcole@CLARK.NET>
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Subject:      Appointments Weirdness
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I've been using the LX series for about 5 years and am just now having weird
stuff happening to my appointment database.  About a year ago I upgraded to
Thaddeus' double-speed 200LX with 16mb and have been really happy with it.  I
mention this only because it may have a bearing on the problem.  Here we go:

My appointments file is about 130k; way too big.  So I started to process a
File|Remove, saving the stuff to an archive file.  Remove  would start to do
its thing then after a few moments stopped, giving me a "Record Not Found".
(If I foolishly persist and try the same thing again I get a "Out of memory
error" or worse - lock up hard (Ctrl-Shift-On)).  Garlic doesn't help at
all.  And today when scrolling from date to date I got a divide overflow with
the predictible results.

As I run the connectivity pack, I've copied the file to the PC and tried
Remove (a 586 with 32mb) with the same result.  I've even tried Extract.  No
luck, same result, right down to the error message.

My real smart friend who knows technical stuff says this is looking like
hex-editor time.  I don't know hex from heck so I'm hoping, praying even,
that somewhere out there some kind person knows what may work.  (BTW I
encounter the "Record not found" message if I scroll to 8/22/98, either
approaching it from before or after.)

TIA,

Bill Cole

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:25:35 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      File Manager - Norton Commander 5.5
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At the risk of getting flamed by our X-Finder cult (please don't, I'm
smiling) those of us who like to plug and play instead of plug and adjust
the configuration might want to check out the NEW Symantec Norton
Commander.  Version 2.0 for Win 9x/NT.  Version 5.5 for DOS for our
palmtops.  The DOS long file name feature seems to work only in a Win DOS
box.  Although the full DOS version takes almost 5 MB, a minimum
configuration takes less than 1 MB (of course, those rich, single folks who
have 32 MB or 64 MB upgraded palmtops can probably use the full program).

Description:  http://www.symantec.com/region/uk/product/nc/index.html

It is not available for purchase here in the U.S., but it can be downloaded
from the following site:
http://rigel.symantec.com/cgi-bin/esd1.pl?type=electronic&segment=list&subsi
te=uk&URL=Desktop

You can try to order it by phone, but I would not recommend it
(international calls are too expensive).

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 01:31:59 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: double speed & software
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> "F. K."  wrote:
>
> > Query:  Is there anyway IN ADVANCE to determine if the screen will
> > "blur" when the unit is double-speeded?  I understand it is the
> > screen/lcd itself and not any particular chip in the hp that determines
> > blur?
>
> Oh, Fred, just take the plunge and get the double speed
> upgrade! <grin>

How many times have I passed up the opportunity for Surgeon Stan to do
this surgery?  Probably, at least, THREE!!!!  (G)

I want to be sure that I can read the self-test screen!  And certainly
the Initialize c: drive prompt.  And Press whatever to boot a, b, c (g)

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:38:09 -0400
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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I have a question for the group's wisdom - what is the modem intiialization
code for dial tone already present? What I am looking for is the ability to
hook up via the handset cord connnection after I have called and accessed the
ISP via manual dialing (because of the difficulty in getting to an outside
line). Any ideas?

Brian

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:48:37 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Isn't it "X3", to disregard dial tone?

Philippe

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 6:38 PM
Subject: Traveling man -


> I have a question for the group's wisdom - what is the modem intiialization
> code for dial tone already present? What I am looking for is the ability to
> hook up via the handset cord connnection after I have called and accessed the
> ISP via manual dialing (because of the difficulty in getting to an outside
> line). Any ideas?
>
> Brian
>
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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:53:38 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: QuickView again...
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Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:44:08 -0400 (EDT)

53m28s ago ...
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> I didn't even install QuickView into MoreEXM, just selectively launching=
 QV
> through X-finder.  I changed my Finder.ENV key definition for:
>
> =3Dv    ,    ,$x c:\bin\quickv.exm;$c %p%c;$m {Paste}

Excellent - Very cool!

> Does anyone know if I need the path info for the $x (c:\bin\)?

IIRC yes, you do.  Not absolutely sure without rereading the docs, but I
seem to recall that the complete path is required for uninstalled EXMs.

Later


-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:12:51 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Bennett,

If the machine ever locks up requiring a hard reset the first question
asked is : re-initalize drive C: yes or no.  You want to answer NO and
hit enter.    =3DBob=3D

> Why do you have to "hit N for no and enter"?<

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:21:38 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Bill Cole wrote:
>
> I've been using the LX series for about 5 years and am just now having weird
> stuff happening to my appointment database.  About a year ago I upgraded to
> Thaddeus' double-speed 200LX with 16mb and have been really happy with it.  I
> mention this only because it may have a bearing on the problem.  Here we go:
>
> My appointments file is about 130k; way too big.  So I started to process a
>

<snip of further description of symptoms>

(1) There's nothing `very big' about 130k .ADB files. I have several
that are > 250k, and while it can be slow to process them, I don't
ever recall any particular difficulty.

(2) Symptoms sound mostly to me like corruption somewhere in the file.
This would explain the `identical' behavior between the connectivity
pack and your machine.

(3) I'd be tempted to try an ASCII dump, first of all, and then resort
to a Hex dump only if that failed to suggest something else.

Others will probably have better suggestions, but that might at least
get you started.

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facilities. This form of signature adds nothing useful, occupies
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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:48:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@bellsouth.net>
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From:         Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Hi Bob

Monday, June 21, 1999, you wrote:

BN> Bennett,

BN> If the machine ever locks up requiring a hard reset the first question
BN> asked is : re-initalize drive C: yes or no.  You want to answer NO and
BN> hit enter.    =Bob=

>> Why do you have to "hit N for no and enter"?<

You don't.

Apparently I never had to do a *hard* reset before getting my speed
upgrade and so was never aware of the question. Ultimately when I was
finally forced to do a *hard* reset AFTER the speed upgrade, I
couldn't read the screen and had no idea why the scrolling stopped so
I hit ENTER (or RETURN, whatever). Fortunately, the question must
default to NO since I've never accidently initialized my C: drive in
all the times I've done it.

I don't mean to imply in any way that the speed upgrade caused the
lock-ups. It was usually just pure stupidity on my part.



 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:49:54 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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Subject:      Re: File Manager - Norton Commander 5.5
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On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> At the risk of getting flamed by our X-Finder cult (please don't, I'm
> smiling) those of us who like to plug and play instead of plug and adjust
> the configuration might want to check out the NEW Symantec Norton
> Commander.  Version 2.0 for Win 9x/NT.  Version 5.5 for DOS for our
> palmtops.  The DOS long file name feature seems to work only in a Win DOS

This is usually the case, as the long-name functions are provided by the
Win95 shell bolted onto DOS. IIRC, Caldera's DR-DOS (or whatever it is
called this week :-) has this functionality built-in, in plain DOS. Also,
I know of atleast one attempt (no longer being worked on) to implement it
as a standard TSR.

> box.  Although the full DOS version takes almost 5 MB, a minimum
> configuration takes less than 1 MB (of course, those rich, single folks who
> have 32 MB or 64 MB upgraded palmtops can probably use the full program).

I gave up on NC when they reached V5.0 for DOS. It was just too big, and
they switched to a weird way of passing arguments/files to the different
viewers (well, perhaps not so weird, but it wasn't compatible with
previous versions). I still use NC40 whenver I'm in DOS on my desktop PC.

Under Windows, I use the cleverly named NC clone Windows Commander
(www.ghisler.com). It is not a very estaetically pleasing program, but it
can do pratically everything including FTP transfers (UNIX and Midnight
Commander freaks will nod in recognition here ;-). There is also another
NC clone for Windows called the FAR Manager (from the same guy who wrote
the RAR archiver). It is also pretty good, and console based, and thusly
looks more like the old NC for DOS.

On the palmtop I use Volkov Commander (on SUPER), it only takes up 150kb
or so and has all the usual features (except archive support).



Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:11:07 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Appointments Weirdness
Comments: To: Bill Cole <bcole@CLARK.NET>
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> encounter the "Record not found" message if I scroll to 8/22/98, either
> approaching it from before or after.)

Then try extracting all appts before that date to an archive.  Then try
doing the same for ones after that date.  Skip that date if you can work
around it.

Another thing to try - try creating a new appt file.  Then TRY merging
your glitched one into the new one.

good luck

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:16:12 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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> I have an EXP card with 2Mb that I haven't used for a couple of
> months. I KNOW that I had some backups on it, plus an etext or two.
> Now when I put the card in and look at it with filer, I see about 8
> files on there that obviously have to do with the card, but I don't
> see any of my data. I tried to create a directory, but it won't let
> me. I got the card free with my old 200lx and it didn't come with any
> manuals or directions for use.
>
Anybody know what's going on with this? Is my data actually on there,
but I just can't see it? Why can't I create a directory on there?

Thanks for any help!
Steve

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:44:47 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Non-recurring appointments are recurring

Today I watched in confusion as my appointment ran through a list of
alarms from several weeks ago.

I had set the appointments as one-time events to give me a 15 minute
advance alarm.  I've used my 200lx daily since then and nothing seemed
unusual.  Today, however, I had an appointment with a 15 minute alarm -
when it beeped me and I hit 'Esc', three other alarm appointments from
some weeks ago went off in succession?

Is this just some fluke or should I be worrying about my .adb file being
corrupted?

Larry Zimmerman

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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Comments: To: Bill Cole <bcole@CLARK.NET>
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Bill Cole wrote:

>My appointments file is about 130k; way too big.  So I started to =
process a
>File|Remove, saving the stuff to an archive file.  Remove  would start =
to do
>its thing then after a few moments stopped, giving me a "Record Not =
Found".
>(If I foolishly persist and try the same thing again I get a "Out of =
memory
>error" or worse - lock up hard (Ctrl-Shift-On)).  Garlic doesn't help at
>all.  And today when scrolling from date to date I got a divide overflow=
 with
>the predictible results.

I'm working on a DB file checker program which I want to detect these
kinds of errors. Could you mail the file to me? I would like to test
it with the checker program, and in return I'll try to restore it as
much as it can be restored.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:50:57 EDT
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In a message dated 6/21/1999 10:21:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DNess@HOME.COM writes:

> I'd be tempted to try an ASCII dump, first of all,

I'd do a "Print to File" if I could.  Appointments, Events, ToDo's etc. That
way, you would at least you have the info.

One approach that has been reported to work is to create a new Appointment
book, and merge this one into that one.  Sometimes you can transfer most or
all of the info & loose the problems w/ the file.

There is also Garlic.  I haven't used it, but some report success.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:16:15 -0700
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Does anyone have an Accurite DoubleSlot transformer handy? I misplaced
mine (using a universal transformer) and forgot the voltage and
polarity.

Thanks,
Bob
>On the other hand, you could use it via an Accurite DoubleSlot...
>
>That has its own power supply, and in fact I can use a Kingston 520MB
Type
>III hard drive in it.

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Hi all,
Previously I was having trouble with Hisword not automatically shutting
off. Tom Hoover was kind enough to send me a new copy.

That solved the problem. Evidently my old copy got corrupted (after
running Diet on it) Diet reduced the size by almost one half, but alas,
didn't work.

Bob

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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:32:52 -0700
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Try http://www.expnet.com/exp.htm . They might have the manuals on their site.

Philippe

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From: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 8:16 PM
Subject: EXP Card


> > I have an EXP card with 2Mb that I haven't used for a couple of
> > months. I KNOW that I had some backups on it, plus an etext or two.
> > Now when I put the card in and look at it with filer, I see about 8
> > files on there that obviously have to do with the card, but I don't
> > see any of my data. I tried to create a directory, but it won't let
> > me. I got the card free with my old 200lx and it didn't come with any
> > manuals or directions for use.
> >
> Anybody know what's going on with this? Is my data actually on there,
> but I just can't see it? Why can't I create a directory on there?
>
> Thanks for any help!
> Steve
>
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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:17:04 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> Today I watched in confusion as my appointment ran through a list of
> alarms from several weeks ago.

Sounds like a hidden file named c:\_dat\alarm.q, which holds the queued
alarms, got corrupted. Deleting it should fix the problem (you won't
lose anything as it is automatically rebuilt).

Andreas

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I just tried the new version of WWWLX
and it froze several times at the SUPER site !?
It works fine on other sites, but I have
to reset if I go to SUPER. Any ideas? I did
reload the previous version and it worked, also
I got an old version of the HPLX site(Apr 8). What
have I done here? Achieved time travel?
OTH Post works just dandy.
confused,

Paul

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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Hi, somebody wants for me for the driver for a hp95, but i forgot the
email (cleaned the inbox....), please tell me if you are waiting yet.
sorry again.

Ale

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:15:58 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Jeff,

> Please post this to the list....

Didn't I post it to the list? Oops....
Well, I checked the 'To' field in my outbox - it was sent to the list!

> I have been just copying directories
> manually... this may be a bit easier <g>.


This is the way I do it now - but the result is too large and it takes
too much clusters of the card!

Thanks

daniel


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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:55:49 +0200
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              Wilhelm.KOEHNE@LUX.DG17E.CEC.BE
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From:         Wilhelm Kvhne <Wilhelm.KOEHNE@LUX.DG17E.CEC.BE>
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What do I have to do to get PalmEdit wrapping the lines at the right ma=
rgin?
Even if I set the right margin with menue/format/right margin to 65, li=
nes
without a line break <CR> disappear (continue) to the right above that =
limit.

TIA

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:34:29 GMT
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Hi friends,

>      pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*
>      pkunzip -d -Jhrs -o a:\backup\cdrive.zip *.*

seems to be even better.

Thanks a lot

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Hi friends,

>     PKZIP -p -r Zipname *.*
>     PKUNZIP -d Zipname

Thanks for all your input!
This seems to be the right way for my backups.

GTX
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Don
I went to the site you mention but did not see a download for Commander there.
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Peniel
I did what you said to add icons to applications in X Finder but it seems that
I am getting an icon with an XFE extension and then an icon for the
application. If I delete or move the ICON.XFE (icon) then then application
icon is also gone. I'm sure I'm still doing something wrong.
Thanks
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Avi wrote,

<I use JASC Paint  Shop Pro. I can capture entire screens, save them as =
JPEGs
and load them onto the camera. With video cable I can now connect the =
camera to
the TV, and use it as my presentation device.<

I have a Nikon Coolpix 900S and have been wanting to do the same. I want =
to
transfer JPEGS to the camera and use the cable to connect the camera to =
my
TV/VCR. My idea is that I would then be able to record a slideshow onto a =
video
tape, which would be rather handy for bringing to family and friends.

Unfortunately, the Nikon will only recognize JPEGS that it has created it =
self.
If I take a picture with the Nikon, transfer it to the PC and then edit =
it with
my ulead photo software, then the Nikon refuses to display it. Apparently =
there
is somekind of tag in the JPEG file that tells the Nikon camera that this =
is or
is not a valid Nikon JPEG.

So I had kind of given up on this, but now I see Avi is apparenly able to =
do
this. Does anybody know the specifics about the Nikon JPEG format that =
will
enable a JPEG to be viewed on the camera?

Jan

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Subject:      Trying the 200LX: ideas and feature wishlist.

           Hello All,

 I had the luck to try the 200LX over the weekend. Thanks to Skiboy.
 Also, I read some back issues of the Palmtop Paper.

 Few ideas and problems: I find it inconvenient, that PgUp/PgDn only
 works as <Fn+arrows>. It would be easier if any of <Shift>, <Alt>
 and <Ctrl> + arrows could act as PgDn/PgUp. Is it possible with TSR?

 The rod connecting two halves of the shell (LCD part, CPU+kbd part)
 together, is empty on the inside: seems to be the right size and
 diameter to house 3pcs size AAA batteries, which could be used to-
 wards backlight supply at 3,6V/270mAh. Have you looked into such a
 modification? It would make the unit heavier and probably make the
 LX overturn/capsize when sitting on tabletop, but could be fixed by
 pulling out the bottom battery tray cover, just like on the 700LX.
 How would cutting open this rod affect the overall rigidity of the
 palmtop shell? I also hope it is waterproof up to 30 metres (BTW,
 it's raining here nonstop for 3 weeks now, so its not theoretical!)

 In the 1995, volume 4, Bonus issue 1 of the Palmtop Paper, there is
 an ad on page 38. It shows an industialized enclosure for the HPLX,
 sold by Corvallis. Have you used such a case, what's your opinion?
 Is it still available? Does it broaden the temperature range, where
 200LX can be used (below 0oC/32oF, beyond 50oC/122oF)?

 Do you think that yet another calculator program, that can display
 sideways, thus allows using the LX as a virtual paper roll printing
 programmable calculator (like the HP97)? IMO that would be valuable.

                      Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.


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John -

Yes. When in ccMail, when you read the message just press the reply button. It
will setup a reply for you. In the documentation, I describe a macro which will
do a couple of things.

Hopy you take a look at it!

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On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:16:12 -0500 Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
writes:
>> Now when I put the card in and look at it with filer, I see about 8
>> files on there that obviously have to do with the card, but I don't

You are looking at drive A:, This is where the Thin Fax program and the
Format program reside.

>Anybody know what's going on with this? Is my data actually on there,
>but I just can't see it? Why can't I create a directory on there?

You need to Change Directory to drive F:.  Your data should be there.
Unless of couse at some point you ran lxmfmt.exe and answered "yes".  In
that case you formatted drive F: and all your data is gone.  Yes, I have
done that!



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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Feher Tamas wrote:

>  The rod connecting two halves of the shell (LCD part, CPU+kbd part)
>  together, is empty on the inside: seems to be the right size and

It's not totally empty.  The screen ribbon cable runs through there...

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01h50m51s ago ...
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I did what you said to add icons to applications in X Finder but it =
seems
> that I am getting an icon with an XFE extension and then an icon for =
the
> application. If I delete or move the ICON.XFE (icon) then then applicati=
on
> icon is also gone. I'm sure I'm still doing something wrong.

Hi again, Tony-

Hmmm - if you followed my posted instructions, I must not have
described the procedure clearly...  8-)

Could you send (either to the list ot to me) a description of what
procedure you followed.   If you have an app - call it "myapp.exe" and
use "myapp.xfe" to launch it, then add myapp.icn to your icn.lzh file,
then hit F1, you should find the icon on the /Palmtop screen.  The
label will say "myapp.xfe" until you assign a long name alias.

I don't understand where you're getting an icon file with the extension
.xfe   Finder doesn't create .xfe files on its own - these must be
created manually.

Did you add the icon to icon.lzh, or to the palmtop directory?

Anyway, if you describe the procedure, we'll work from there...

Later


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Wilhelm Kvhne wrote:
> What do I have to do to get PalmEdit wrapping the lines at the right margin?
> Even if I set the right margin with menue/format/right margin to 65, lines
> without a line break <CR> disappear (continue) to the right above that limit.

PalEdit (not PalmEdit) does not automatically re-break long lines. It
only breaks them on command (ESC Q or Menu Format Format_Paragraph).

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Calling all Agenda users!
Anyone want to part with their Agenda documentation? I have fallen in love
with the software and would like to read the original docu's. I will pay
for photocopying if anyone would like to offer me a copy.

Hopefully,

Paul Rasmussen
avid 200lx'er

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Peniel
I'll try it again and if I don't get it right this time I will send a post to
the list.
Thanks
Tomny Guzewicz

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Thank you to everyone that offered suggestions on using PKzip to backup =
to a
flash card. I now have a nifty little batch file that works great. BTW =
the
-es option really makes it zip along at a lightning fast speed <g>.

Jeff

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if the programs expect to be launched from their working directory, to load
config files or the like, you have to CD there first. other reason might be
they don'get enough memory.
most elegant way is to write a .xfe file like:
a:\games|\; sol.exe|80
# cd fist; lauch sol.exe with 80 k of memory reserved.

this does not work always, it might be a bug in the current release of
x-finder.
the autor suggested to change that to
a:\games|\~; sol.exe|80
# the difference is the "~"
i haven't tried this yet.

hth
alan

> Does anyone know why some .exe programs work in Finder and some don't? I
also
> can't seem to get LX Pic to work within Finder and have been trying to
figure
> out how to add individual icons to my applications.

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Hi Daniel.

I posted the combination you're showing below, but another poster (Helmuth) used
something of the same pkzip command but with an added "-es" switch:

     pkzip -es -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*

This specifies "Superfast" compression, which I tried on my 2x/6mb system.  The
amount of data being backed up was 2.76mb and the resulting archive was 1.32mb
which took about 2 minutes.

Without the "-es" switch, the same backup resulted in a 1.29mb file and took 3
minutes... so the addition of the -es switch improved the speed by 33% with only
a slight increase in archive size.

YMMV, depending on the nature of the data being backed up.

I usually run my backups automatically, just after midnight so speed is usually
not a consideration... but those of you who need to run this backup manually may
find the added -es switch useful in cutting down the time.  Thanks Helmuth!

- Longden





Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> on 06/22/99 03:34:29 AM

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Hi friends,

>      pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*
>      pkunzip -d -Jhrs -o a:\backup\cdrive.zip *.*

seems to be even better.

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Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:39:26 -0400 (EDT)

Yesterday, I posted this.  Perhaps it was unclear.  Hope this will
clarify the procedures...


> To use your icons, just use XF to copy them to your icon.lzh file.
> They MUST be in uncompressed format, but XF does it automatically.

You can simply use the same XF procedure you use for copying any file
from one directory to another.  XF treats archives as directories.

> The easiest way is to go to your icon directory (or archive) and mark
> the icon(s) you want to use, then hit ÝShift¨ÝEnter¨ to automagically
> add 'em to icon.lzh  (using ÝCtrl¨ÝEnter¨ does the same for
> iconfld.lzh).

If you use this shortcut, DO NOT change directory windows after marking
files - just mark, and then ÝShift¨ÝEnter¨.  Then, if you look in
icon.lzh, you should see your new icons listed.

> You may need to rename the icon in icon.lzh to match the .xf? file used
> to launch the app.  Then hit F1 (Init) to reinitialize XF and enable
> display of the new icons.

OK - this probably IS confusing  8-)    Let's try again...   Go to
icon.lzh - highlight the icon - hit the Rename F-Key - give the icon
the same FILENAME as the .xf? used to launch the app.  Keep the .icn
extension.  For example:  You have a program called game1.exe - you
create game1.xfe to launch it - rename the icon to game1.icn.

After adding icons, be sure to hit F1 (Init).

> Hint:  Be sure to check out the next issue of PTP  8-)

HTH

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Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:11:02 -0400 (EDT)

42m37s ago ...
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Alan Krempler wrote:

> most elegant way is to write a .xfe file like:
> a:\games|\; sol.exe|80
> # cd fist; lauch sol.exe with 80 k of memory reserved.
>
> this does not work always, it might be a bug in the current release of
> x-finder.
> the autor suggested to change that to
> a:\games|\~; sol.exe|80
> # the difference is the "~"

Hi Alan-

Ahhh - this is indeed more elegant than the brute-force .xfe I
suggested.  I'll have to try both versions of this.   8-)  Thanks.

I received another suggested syntax for this, but it didn't work.
Changed directories, but opened file browser instead of starting the
app.  Nuff said.

BTW - Alan, thanks for creating QV.  It's a great little viewer!


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David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> PMFJI, but I am shopping for a digital camera (and therefore have
> found this a _very_ useful thread) and in wandering thru
> http://www.pricescan.com I saw the Canon A5 Zoom for less than $315...

I went to this site and found the best price is from Best.Com. Has any one had any
experience with this vendor (or any other vendor) there?

Thanks.

Ron Zhang

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My ISP - Concentric Network,  just decommissioned its Internet Gateway,
which means I can no longer access its shell. I always prefer an UNIX shell
since it's so easy to manage mail, read newsgroups or just do anything.
Plus, I could just dial in with my trusty 200LX and use its built-in
Datacomm to get connected!  Are there any other national ISPs that offer
shell acccess? I really don't like it when one by one, the shell access is
disabled...

Ron Zhang

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Longden,

> This specifies "Superfast" compression, which I tried on my 2x/6mb =
system.  The
> amount of data being backed up was 2.76mb and the resulting archive was =
1.32mb
> which took about 2 minutes.
>
> Without the "-es" switch, the same backup resulted in a 1.29mb file and =
took 3
> minutes... so the addition of the -es switch improved the speed by 33% =
with only
> a slight increase in archive size.

Thank you for the details.

Regards

Helmuth

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  Just got this from my HP Rep.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD  jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)


>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         CRAIG_SCHASIEPEN@HP-USA-om12.om.hp.com
Ýmailto:CRAIG_SCHASIEPEN@HP-USA-om12.om.hp.com¨
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:29 PM
> To:   jbarrett@rdasun1.rurdev.usda.gov
> Subject:      FW: 200LX
> Importance:   High
>
>  Jon, I thought this would be of interest to you.  I got your name as a
lead
from the MS 2000 intro. from June 16th.

----Craig Schasiepen

-----Original Message-----
From: BRIDGES, ROSS /hp-santaclara,om3
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:13 PM
To: DERAMO, PATRICE /HP-USA,om12; GRAVATTE, LEE /HP-USA,om12; GROVE, DAN
/HP-USA,om12; HUGHES, MARK /HP-USA,om12; KLEIN, BRUCE /HP-USA,om12;
LAWRENCE,
ALAN /HP-USA,om12; LYLE, BOB /HP-USA,om12; MORAN, TINA /HP-USA,om12; POSEY,
JEFF /HP-USA,om12; ROMNESS, PETER /HP-USA,om12; SCHASIEPEN, CRAIG
/HP-USA,om12;
SETTLE, DAVE /HP-USA,om22; TURNER, MIKE /HP-USA,om12; WATSON, RICK
/HP-USA,om12
Subject: 200LX
Importance: High

Good afternoon all,

This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series palmtop
will be discontinued.  Please check with you customers and work with them on
their requirements to replace or order additional units to supplement their
existing need for this unit before the November 1 date.
If you have any questions please call .
Best Regards
rb
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====

Ross Bridges
Business Development Manager
Federal State and Local Government
Handheld Products
408.343.5217
ross_bridges@hp.com

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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:50:37 -0400, Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET> =
wrote:

> This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series =
palmtop
> will be discontinued.

Gasp!!!!

Jeff

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This STINKS!!  {: (




        This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX
series palmtop
        will be discontinued

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  Steve, I only have a partial understanding of how these cards work, but
I'm pretty sure that the files you can see are part of the ROM part of the
card (which is why you can't create a directory there).  You need to have a
line in your config.sys file to load the special flash driver for your EXP
card.  I think it's called lxmdrv.sys (it should be one of the files that
you can see on the card)...  Copy it to your C: drive so you don't have to
have the card in your LX every time you reboot.  Once loaded, I think the
EXP flash-disk shows up as F: or G:....

  Does that help?
     ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Dowell Ýmailto:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 10:16 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: EXP Card
>
>
> > I have an EXP card with 2Mb that I haven't used for a couple of
> > months. I KNOW that I had some backups on it, plus an etext or two.
> > Now when I put the card in and look at it with filer, I see about 8
> > files on there that obviously have to do with the card, but I don't
> > see any of my data. I tried to create a directory, but it won't let
> > me. I got the card free with my old 200lx and it didn't
> come with any
> > manuals or directions for use.
> >
> Anybody know what's going on with this? Is my data actually on there,
> but I just can't see it? Why can't I create a directory on there?

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Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

>  Look for CONVR803.ZIP on the Simtel site
>  (http://www.simtel.net/simcgi-bin/dosfind.cgi?convr803)
>
> Clear as mud you asked for and clear as mud you
> get.  Not the easiest utility  to use, but
> completely command line and control file driven, and
> converts between "dBase, ASCII-delim, fixed, 1-2-3"
> format files with field editing and exclusions.  Runs
> fine on the LX (131k bytes) and is the best (not
> easiest) convertor I've ever used.  Freeware and
> perfectly round <g>.

After playing around with this program for a while I
can see it's potential, but can't make it work for me.

If you have some control files sitting around that
would be useful to palmtop users, could you share
them?

I have a member list for a group I belong to in 1-2-3.
The columns are roughly NAME, STREET ADDRESS, CITY,
STATE, ZIP, TELEPHONE, CLASS CODE, DATE JOINED...

I want to export to fixed length fields, using
different fields for different purposes.  Address list
one day, member names only another day, name and phone
a third day, etc.

I believe convr803 would work for this.  Can you help?
 Offlist if you think it would be of limited interest.

Thanks.


Kat
--
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Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> I am running the connectivity pack under Windows 95
> with no problems, although when I tried to install it
> on another 95 machine a few days ago, it ran, but the
> filer wouldn't connect, complaining that Laplink
> Remote was in use. I booted to MS-DOS bypassing all
> config & autoexec, but it still said them same!
>
> But, bottom line is it can be done cos it works on my
> PC. What problems are you having?


I had no luck with the connectivity pack after I
upgraded to Win98 the first time.  In this case I had
reformatted the hard drive and installed DOS, then
Win3.11, then Win98.  When I installed my old
software, some worked fine, and some didn't.

The second time I reformatted, then installed DOS, then
Win3.11, then the old software, then Win98.  In this
case, just about everything worked as expected.  The
major exception was Laplink.  I get an error message
something like -- can't find LLRA --.  But the file
transfer, database, and phone work fine.  I haven't
tried to sync Pocket Quicken.


Kat
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K.Deutscher  -  katd@cwix.com  -  TheOpr@aol.com

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:00:35 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Oh <bleeep>!!

  Anybody know who to talk to try to get this reversed?

> From: Jon Barrett
>
> > This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the
> > 200LX series palmtop will be discontinued.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:01:43 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Does anybody know of a parallel-port CompactFlash reader that will work on
a DOS desktop computer?

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Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Eng.Sun.COM> wrote:

Are there any other national ISPs that offer
shell acccess? I really don't like it when one by one, the shell access is
disabled...


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Yeap! Netcom.com.


HTH


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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:33:30 -0800
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Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU> wrote:

Few ideas and problems: I find it inconvenient, that PgUp/PgDn only
works as <Fn+arrows>. It would be easier if any of <Shift>, <Alt>
and <Ctrl> + arrows could act as PgDn/PgUp. Is it possible with TSR?


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Yeap! Just use a key remapping program to remap the keys (exkey or key200 etc).


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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:15:17 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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I bought a Silicom 56K modem to use in my laptop and 200LX. The specs said
it draws 144ma in use.

It seems to wrok fine. Does anyone on this list have any experience with
the Silicm 510/56K modem?

karl

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:17:53 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: FW: 200LX
Comments: To: Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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At the bottom of the message from Mr. Bridges is an email address.  Jon;
would it be appropriate to mail our considerations to this Mr. Bridges?
Or should we go for a different channel?

I really don't want to see the venerable 200LX go away...

Bill

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Jon Barrett wrote:

>   Just got this from my HP Rep.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> Kensington, MD  jonzann@altavista.net
>
> Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
>  (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

{snip headers}

> Good afternoon all,
>
> This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series palmtop
> will be discontinued.  Please check with you customers and work with them on
> their requirements to replace or order additional units to supplement their
> existing need for this unit before the November 1 date.
> If you have any questions please call .
> Best Regards
> rb
>
> Ross Bridges
> Business Development Manager
> Federal State and Local Government
> Handheld Products
> 408.343.5217
> ross_bridges@hp.com

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:01:36 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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From:         Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
Subject:      Re: EXP Card
Comments: To: "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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That was the problem. Someone else already wrote to me off list and put
me on the right path. It's working now. Hooray! : )

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Stanley, John L. ÝSMTP:JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM¨
        Sent:   Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:58 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: EXP Card

          Steve, I only have a partial understanding of how these cards
work, but
        I'm pretty sure that the files you can see are part of the ROM
part of the
        card (which is why you can't create a directory there).  You
need to have a
        line in your config.sys file to load the special flash driver
for your EXP
        card.  I think it's called lxmdrv.sys (it should be one of the
files that
        you can see on the card)...  Copy it to your C: drive so you
don't have to
        have the card in your LX every time you reboot.  Once loaded, I
think the
        EXP flash-disk shows up as F: or G:....


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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:36:22 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FW: 200LX
Comments: To: Bill Childers <childers@garlic.com>
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I don't know how much say he'd have in it - sounds like the decision's
already been made, for better or for worse.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD  jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Childers Ýmailto:childers@garlic.com¨
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:18 PM
> To: HPLX Mailing List; Jon Barrett
> Subject: Re: FW: 200LX
>
>
> At the bottom of the message from Mr. Bridges is an email address.  Jon;
> would it be appropriate to mail our considerations to this Mr. Bridges?
> Or should we go for a different channel?
>
> I really don't want to see the venerable 200LX go away...
>
> Bill
>
> Bill Childers
> South Valley Consulting
>
> -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
> rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Jon Barrett wrote:
>
> >   Just got this from my HP Rep.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Jon Barrett
> > Kensington, MD  jonzann@altavista.net
> >
> > Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
> >  (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)
>
> {snip headers}
>
> > Good afternoon all,
> >
> > This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX
> series palmtop
> > will be discontinued.  Please check with you customers and work
> with them on
> > their requirements to replace or order additional units to
> supplement their
> > existing need for this unit before the November 1 date.
> > If you have any questions please call .
> > Best Regards
> > rb
> >
> > Ross Bridges
> > Business Development Manager
> > Federal State and Local Government
> > Handheld Products
> > 408.343.5217
> > ross_bridges@hp.com
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:24:32 -0500
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Didn't I just read an article in a fairly recent PTP that HP did NOT
intend to discontinue the 200LX because it was still selling well, etc?

Steve




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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:54:37 -0700
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Reformat Utility Sought
Comments: To: Kat Deutscher <katd@CWIX.COM>
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Hi Kat.

I lost all my control files when I left my last job, but I don't believe that
they would help you much.

In reading over the doc for CONV803, it appears that the program will output to
WKS, but does not accept WKS as input.

Sorry... I think I had used it mostly for DBF and CSV type file conversions and
knew it supported WKS, but didn't know until just know, after reading the doc,
that the WKS support is only in one direction.

You may be able to output the data from 123 as fixed fields using /PrintFile,
in which case, a series of 123 macros may better suffice to extract the
information.  But if your intent is to be able to run the conversion from the
DOS commandline, at least with CONV803, you'd have to run 123 first to output
the spreadsheet as a printfile where CONV803 may then be used for field editing
and exclusion (FIXED format to FIXED format conversion)....don't know if this is
what you want tho...seems klunky.

- Longden





Kat Deutscher <katd@CWIX.COM> on 06/22/99 11:01:14 AM

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Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

>  Look for CONVR803.ZIP on the Simtel site
>  (http://www.simtel.net/simcgi-bin/dosfind.cgi?convr803)
>

After playing around with this program for a while I
can see it's potential, but can't make it work for me.

If you have some control files sitting around that
would be useful to palmtop users, could you share
them?

I have a member list for a group I belong to in 1-2-3.
The columns are roughly NAME, STREET ADDRESS, CITY,
STATE, ZIP, TELEPHONE, CLASS CODE, DATE JOINED...

I want to export to fixed length fields, using
different fields for different purposes.  Address list
one day, member names only another day, name and phone
a third day, etc.

I believe convr803 would work for this.  Can you help?
 Offlist if you think it would be of limited interest.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:58:58 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
Subject:      Backup with xcopy (was:PKZIP for backup)
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> I'd like to initialize an automatic backup every night from C: to the
> flash card.
>
> Therefor I want to use PKZIP.

This is not what You asked for. But I have an other aproach to minimize
the size of my backup.
I do a major backup to a stationary PC, and after that I run this bat
file when I feel its time to be safe and not sorry:

xcopy c:\*.* f:\backup\ /s /d:06/16/99

Where 06/16/99 is the date for my major backup.
When I run this bat file I only copy files that have changed since last
major backup.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: ÝISP¨ Visited Again
Comments: To: Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Eng.Sun.COM>

>Datacomm to get connected!  Are there any other national ISPs that offer
>shell acccess? I really don't like it when one by one, the shell access is
>disabled...


YMMV, but it is possible to run telnet over PPP. Here in Oslo with our ISP
it was recommended for those of us that lost our shell access. :-( I tried
it and it worked, couldn't tell the difference. Only thing is it's not so
easy to set up... Use GP or the package from R. Whitby and telnet/LX?

br

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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX


> Didn't I just read an article in a fairly recent PTP that HP did NOT
> intend to discontinue the 200LX because it was still selling well, etc?

If Bill Gates is behind this, HP has little to say about its own previous
decisions . . .
:-(
On the same vein, which *current* products still use PCMCIA (other than
laptops/notebooks)?  Doesn't just about everything new in cameras and
palmtops/pdas use compact flash?

Somehow I feel like WINCEing . . .    :-(    8+B

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:17:46 +0200
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Silicom modem
Comments: To: Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Karl,

> I bought a Silicom 56K modem to use in my laptop and 200LX. The specs =
said
> it draws 144ma in use.

These specs sound great. 144mA at 56K Baud? I am listening.

Regards

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:23:49 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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I just got my lovely 32Mb double speed unit. I'm sticking with this
puppy till it dies. Then I'll probably STILL look around for another
used 200lx! : )    In a pinch I'd probably go to a Psion before going to
a CE device.

As for the CF... As long as you can pop a CF into a PCMCIA adapter we're
still OK.

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Domingo  Diaz-Vazquez ÝSMTP:ddvteach@strato.net¨
        Sent:   Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:12 PM
        To:     HPLX Mailing List; Steve Dowell
        Subject:        Re:    FW: 200LX

        If Bill Gates is behind this, HP has little to say about its own
previous
        decisions . . .
        :-(
        On the same vein, which *current* products still use PCMCIA
(other than
        laptops/notebooks)?  Doesn't just about everything new in
cameras and
        palmtops/pdas use compact flash?

        Somehow I feel like WINCEing . . .    :-(    8+B

        Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:38:13 +0200
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I am using a couple of similar devices (GSM modem, 33.6 modem, ACCTON
network card) in the pcmcia slot and I got tired of selecting the
right devices in setup whenever I changed them.

Andreas Garzotto did support me with a little batchfile which uses
lxcic and xgrep in order to identify what's in the pcmcia slot.

lxcic and xgrep are freeware and available at s.u.p.e.r page.

Description: lxcic /s reads the modem and xgrep looks for known
strings, which I checked manually with lxcic /s.

My batchfile to start e.g. www/lx looks like this:

****** Configuration *********

lxcic /s | grep ACCTON
if errorlevel 1 goto acc1
echo It is a Accton card
goto port_nw
:acc1

lxcic /s | grep Nokia
if errorlevel 1 goto nok1
echo It is a Nokia card
goto port_n
:nok1

lxcic /s | grep ROCKWELL
if errorlevel 1 goto roc1
echo It is a Rockwell card
goto port_2
:roc1

goto port_1

:port_1
set po=3D1
set br=3D19200
set mod_ini=3Dat&fx3m0
goto port_x
:port_2
set po=3D2
set br=3D57600
set mod_ini=3Dat&fx3m0s
goto port_x
:port_n
set po=3D2
set br=3D9600
set mod_ini=3Datz0
goto port_x
:port_nw
set po=3D2
set br=3D9600
goto port_x

:port_x
********** End of Configuration *********

www.exe Port=3D%po% Baud=3D%br% ModemInit=3D%mod_ini% Dial=3DATDT5056178

rem end of batchfile

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:55:17 -0400
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              Scott Walker <N3SW@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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From:         Scott Walker <N3SW@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      ccLXPOP+Worldnet?
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I'd like to correspond with anyone who has had success setting up
LXTCP/ccLXPOP on the 200LX to work with AT&T Worldnet ISP.  Please reply
direct.
TIA.
**********************************************************************
 Scott Walker
 New Cumberland, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania USA
 N3SW@worldnet.att.net
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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:51:48 EDT
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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: Federico de Argentina

HP>Che yo tengo una 95 pero hablo tambien espaniol (castellano para nos
HP>no?)

HP>bueno si puedo ayudar...

HP>saludos

HP>Ricardo Macchiu W. (+tecmetal) wrote:
HP>>
HP>> Ya somos varios locos de palmtop 200lx en espaqol, encantado de
HP>> podercomunicaenos en nuestro idioma.
HP>>
HP>> Hablas Espaqol??
HP>>
HP>> Soy un loco usuario de la Palmtop 200lx y me gustarma tener algzn
HP>> interlocutor en mi idioma ya que es mas facil comunicar ciertas cosas.
HP>> Un abrazo....si hablas mi idioma CHAU
HP>>
     hi, buenas

     hehe...we are a lot here...argentina.. :)


     nice to find another one...



     Martin Sebastian
     Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Subject:      Turbo C++ V 3.0

HP>does anyone know is version 3.0 of Turbo C++ works on the palmtop?
HP>TIA
HP>Tony Guzewicz

   I used Pascal once...i think it was version 2.4, so i think that C
should work too.

But i tell you....it ran very, very slowly.....on my single speed 200


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Subject:      Format Flash Card

hi everyone,


As you know the 'Super-Advanced Win-Ce' Systems, only can read to a MAX
of 32 mb flash cards.

I have a 40mb Simpletech card, and i need to use it with an HP Jornada,
(Fancy machine) but a piece of crap.

Anyone know how to format it to 32mb, using the 200lx ?


Thanks in advance,



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Subject:      Re: 200LX

That wuz then, this is now.

yor pal al.............................

>Didn't I just read an article in a fairly recent PTP that HP did NOT
>intend to discontinue the 200LX because it was still selling well,
>etc?
>
>Steve

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Microdrives

> Even tho that's what IBM's specs say, it seems too high. 0.5A x 5V = 2.5W. This
> thing will probably sizzle spit. It's advantage however will be keeping your
> pocket warm in the middle of winter.
>
> However, power is required for fast access time. Just to keep a motor running,
> even a servo of that size, 500mA is ridiculous. There may be a peak starting
> current to get the motor started, then die down somewhat.
>
> Or...IBM will need refine the device to reduce power consumption by reducing
> access time. Who needs ns access time in a camera?
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY

Power on hard drives is usually staed at worst case, I wouldn't
expect the thing to use 500 Mah all the time, it would melt. This is
probably the maximum surge current needed to start the motor from a
standstill under the worst possible conditions so that designers can
allow for that. You wouldn't want your brand new camera to crash on a
cold day when it goes to save the once in a lifetime shot of bigfoot,
would you? :-)

Pete

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Tidewater Community College
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Hi Bob,

Mine says
MODEL: 48DR-5-1000
INPUT: 120VAC 60Hz 13W
OUTPUT: 5VDX 1000mA
I.T.E. Power Supply
CLASS 2 TRANSFORMER

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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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The new WWW.EXE seems to have bugs in combination with HV.
Try for example the URL:

http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html

Indexing hangs and only 3-finger salut gets back the palmtop to
life. There are also strange hex numbers in the htm document,
just outside of the HTML tags, displayed monospaced in HV.

In other situations, the new WWW.EXE just says HV_001.MIME in
the header line of HV and the screen remains blanc.

All this did not happen with the previous release of WWW.EXE,
and hence cannot be HV related.

Unfortunately I have to step back two releases, because the
last release had at least for me the PalMemFail bug.

Maybe, I am the last one using HV on the Palmtop. But please,
D&A, don't follow a politic like:

Because HV is discontinued, our new products will no longer
work reliable with HV.

I understand, but regret, that HV is discontinued, but I wish
I still could use it as it is, whithout having to reboot several
times a day.

Stefan

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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Glad you said that.  I could not either.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: File Manager - Norton Commander 5.5


> Don
> I went to the site you mention but did not see a download for Commander
there.
> Tony Guzewicz
>
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Is there a chance another company could/would buy the rights to make & sell the
200lx?

Don.


> This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series palmtop
> will be discontinued.

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Hi Longden,

> I usually run my backups automatically, just after midnight so speed is usually
> not a consideration... but those of you who need to run this backup manually may
> find the added -es switch useful in cutting down the time.  Thanks Helmuth!
>

Do you make sure somehow that the battery doesn't go down while backup?

And: Do you run SC? Is it okay to make a full C backup while in a SC
session?

TNX
daniel

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Hi friends,

sorry, I couldn't find a shorter subject line...

how can I put an icon in AppMgr for a specified database GDB file that
loads the database app and opens the GDB file directly?

TNX
daniel

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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> how can I put an icon in AppMgr for a specified database GDB file that
> loads the database app and opens the GDB file directly?

You can't really do that with Application Manager.  You can, however, with
XFinder or SMMX.  I use SMMX and have a "DB" icon on the main menu.
Selecting that brings up another SMMX menu with icons for all my
databases.

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Has anyone used the Pal Lib with any Basic languages?  Such as QBX?

Don.

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Organization: earthlink.net
Subject:      Re: ÝISP¨ Visited Again
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Those that have Netcom now can keep their shell access but according
to their web site, new customers will not have it.  (Mindspring
bought Netcom.)  Bummer - I would've switched ISP's to get shell
access.

Terry Owen


On 22 Jun 99 Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

> Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Eng.Sun.COM> wrote:
>
> Are there any other national ISPs that offer
> shell acccess? I really don't like it when one by one, the shell
> access is disabled...
>
>
>     -------------------------- Reply Separator
>     ---------------------------
>
>
> Yeap! Netcom.com.
>
>
> HTH
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Qman...

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======  From Tony Guzewicz  ==========================
>Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:17:03 -0400
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>        aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: File Manager - Norton Commander 5.5
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
>Don
>I went to the site you mention but did not see a download for Commander
there.
>Tony Guzewicz


========== Response  ===========================================

Tony,

I copied the URL (all two lines are really one line)

http://rigel.symantec.com/cgi-bin/esd1.pl?type=electronic&segment=list&subsi
te=uk&URL=Desktop

from the original message and it took me to the correct page which lists
the following:

  Downloadable Product List

     Crash Defender Deluxe 2.0 for Windows 95/98/NT - English       US$  39.99
     Norton Commander 2.0 Windows 95/98/NT - International English  US$  53.00
     Norton Commander 5.5 DOS - International English               US$  53.00


Another way to get there is as follows:
Go to URL: http://www.symantec.com/region/uk/index.html
From trhe left yellow panel, select: Shop Symantec
Select: Desktop Utilities

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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Terry Owen wrote:

> Those that have Netcom now can keep their shell access but according
> to their web site, new customers will not have it.  (Mindspring bought
> Netcom.)  Bummer - I would've switched ISP's to get shell access.

There are plenty of free shell access places available (offhand, I don't
know any, but I know they're out there) that you can access via telnet. So
what you could do is sign up with a nationwide ISP (or a worldwide ISP
like Compuserve) with PPP and then just telnet into a shell account
somewhere...

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I've just posted version 1.0 of the DBCHECK program which I hope can
find errors in ADB, PDB, GDB, NDB, and WDB files. The program returns
a result in DOS's ERRORLEVEL variable so you can use it in a batch
file, and not back up corrupted files.

I'm not sure that the most common database errors will be detected, so
if you find a ?DB file with a problem not detected, please let me
know!

The file is available on my palmtop web page:

http://cameron.hplx.net (alias)
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html
ftp://members.aol.com/freewhL44/

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In a message dated 6/22/1999 02:56:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM writes:

> You may be able to output the data from 123 as fixed fields using
/PrintFile,
>  in which case, a series of 123 macros may better suffice to extract the
>  information.

In 1-2-3, just delete the columns you don't want to distribute (evidently,
the required output differs from day to day) use the /Print File option, then
DO NOT SAVE THE FILE.

Problem solved (or else I misunderstood it -- which is a distinct
possibility.)

Lynn M. Cavendish

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:22:18 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.=
DE> wrote:

> Maybe, I am the last one using HV on the Palmtop
> D&A, don't follow a politic like:

You aren't the last one using it Stefan, and I am experiencing the exact
same problem as you. At first I thought it was just me, but now after
reading what you have written, I understand it is affecting others. Maybe =
we
can persuade <g> Andreas to let Rod Whitby have a crack at the source =
code,
with a 'No Warranties' disclaimer <g>.

Jeff

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There are other switch options to PKZIP which are useful for doing
backups. I use it to back up my PC to big zip files which I then store
on CD-R's.

=46irst, you can create a list of the files you need to have backed up,
and store it in a text file (eg, backup.lst). Then tell PKZIP to back
up according to that list:
    pkzip -a -P zipfile @backup.lst

Second, you can use DOS's archive bit to flag which files should get
backed up, and have a technique to do Full, Differential, and
Incremental backups like the Norton backup product used to do.

=46or a full backup, use the "-a+" switch to turn off the archive bit
after it's backed up:
    pkzip -a+ -P zipfile @backup.lst

=46or an incremental backup, which will zip all the files that have
changed since the last backup:
    pkzip -i -P zipfile @backup.lst

=46or a differential backup, which will zip all the files that have
changed since the last full backup:
    pkzip -i- -P zipfile @backup.lst

If you use an incremental strategy, you need to have the full backup
plus each incremental backup you've done. The advantage is that you
have all those intermediate versions of zip files.

If you use a differential strategy, you just need the last full backup
and the last differential backup, but the size of the differential
backups is larger than incremental.

Another trick I use for the PC is that I got WinZip's command-line
zipper, which can handle long file names.

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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      Re: File Manager - Norton Commander 5.5
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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Thanks for the comments, Laust.

I plan to check out all the programs you mentioned.

Reference Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK> comment:
>I gave up on NC when they reached V5.0 for DOS. It was just too big, and
>they switched to a weird way of passing arguments/files to the different
>viewers (well, perhaps not so weird, but it wasn't compatible with
>previous versions). I still use NC40 whenver I'm in DOS on my desktop PC.

Those file viewers are used to permit you to view files in native formats
and inside archives/compressed files.

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At 02:28 PM 6/22/99 -0400, Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> wrote:
>Glad you said that.  I could not either.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
>> I went to the site you mention but did not see a download for Commander
>there.
>> Tony Guzewicz
>>


Don't know why.  I tried it again and it worked for me.

I'm using Netscape as my browser.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:05:17 +0000
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If you are interested in using compact flash (CF) cards (not PCMCIA cards),
Sandisk makes a CF card reader/writer with either parallel (Win9x & Win NT)
or USB (Win 9x) versions.

See www.sandisk.com.

It's available thru www.buycomp.com for less than $50


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>>
>> <<Also, I'd like to add a PCMCIA card slot on my home PC. Has anyone
>> found a good and cheap way to do this?>>
>

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At 12:23 AM 6/23/99 GMT,  Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> wrote:
>
>Another trick I use for the PC is that I got WinZip's command-line
>zipper, which can handle long file names.
>


PKWare also has a command line program with LFN support:

"PKZIP 2.50 Command Line for Windows 9x/NT
runs as an Intel x86 32-bit native application on
Windows NT version 3.51 or later, and
additionally supports Windows 9x. As a 32-bit
application, PKZIP Command Line lifts the 8.3
DOS file format restriction found in PKZIP 2.04g
for DOS by supporting Windows NT and 95 long
file names. PKZIP Command Line includes all the
functionality of PKZIP 2.04g for DOS, with the
addition of features such as additional file format
support for TAR, GZIP, UUencoded, MIME and BinHex files."

See:  http://www.pkware.com/catalog/zip_clint.html

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Brian,
I am working on a similar problem and looking for wisdom...I have
proCommPlus on my A drive Stacker Card 5x2 ..I use a
MegahertzPocketModem(Extinct now..) BUT!!! The MIS guys set it up years
ago; do not want to 'waste time on a palmtop' and I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO
FIGURE OUT THE INITIALIZATION STRING TO WAKE UP THE MODEM AND GET THE
DIALING GO'IN...

THERE IS A PCP DIR on the A side and when I search it I see files with .exe
.asp but in the DOS mode typing edit does not reveal any thing accept 'bad
command of file name'

Let's hope someone with know/how reads these two Initialization questions.

John
At 09:38 PM 6/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I have a question for the group's wisdom - what is the modem intiialization
>code for dial tone already present? What I am looking for is the ability to
>hook up via the handset cord connnection after I have called and accessed the
>ISP via manual dialing (because of the difficulty in getting to an outside
>line). Any ideas?
>
>Brian
>
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> -es option really makes it zip along at a lightning fast speed <g>.

Fast yes, but not as small as it could be.  If you've got the
time use -ex for the best compression.  If you want it really
fast use -e0 for no compression at all.

Russ

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> I really don't want to see the venerable 200LX go away...

I'd like to know if their decision is because HP wants it to
(finally) go away or if the demand has finally shrunk to a level
too small to continue supporting.

Russ

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> Is there a chance another company could/would buy the rights to make & sell the
> 200lx?

...And would Lotus also have to agree?  (Providing HP would
agree; they can't get new CE users if we still have our 200LX.)

Russ

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:50:09 -0400
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02h24m15s ago ...
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> how can I put an icon in AppMgr for a specified database GDB file that
> loads the database app and opens the GDB file directly?

I was gonna suggest X-Finder, but David beat me to it  8-)   But, there
IS a way to open DBs from icons in AppMgr.  Grab a copy of OPEN from
SUPER.  This will allow you to open databases from either the DOS
command line or an icon in AppMgr.  Put open.exe in your path, then you
can do (for example) -  open keycode.gdb

HTH


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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> How many times have I passed up the opportunity for Surgeon Stan to do
> this surgery?  Probably, at least, THREE!!!!  (G)
>
> I want to be sure that I can read the self-test screen!  And certainly
> the Initialize c: drive prompt.  And Press whatever to boot a, b, c (g)

Yes, I think it was three times you chickened out of, er,
decided not to do, the DS upgrade.  Maybe we will be able to
bring you into the fast lane someday.

As far as the readability of the self test screen, I don't
know what the range of screen readabilities is, I have no
trouble seeing those things on my machine when the driver is
not loaded.

Also, keep in mind that if you have a friend install the
crystal, the screen effect without the driver can be quickly
tested with the palmtop still apart and if the screen is too
bad, the original crystal can be put back in.


Stan

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Subject:      Database

Hello all
There is a (Exemptery) database of database
tips on super?

It has a (note) field hidden which can be seen,
if you hit F3.  How I copy data/info into it or
create it?   I want to add what I already have.
Can I  copy or merge data into it? .

yor pal al..................................


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> The new WWW.EXE seems to have bugs in combination with HV.
> Try for example the URL:
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html
>
> Indexing hangs and only 3-finger salut gets back the palmtop to
> life. There are also strange hex numbers in the htm document,
> just outside of the HTML tags, displayed monospaced in HV.
>
> In other situations, the new WWW.EXE just says HV_001.MIME in
> the header line of HV and the screen remains blanc.

This was only recently (today!!!) brought to their attention.
Hopefully, a solution will be found.

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> Glad you said that.  I could not either.


It is there - I found it - but it is a "pay for password" download site.
So you may have to follow the correct links to "buy" the software.  You
can download but need to contact them for a password after paying, was
it $53.00 US.

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> reading what you have written, I understand it is affecting others. Maybe
> we
> can persuade <g> Andreas to let Rod Whitby have a crack at the source
> code,
> with a 'No Warranties' disclaimer <g>.


Don't jump the gun folks - I would imagine that WWW which was tweaked to
get around AT&T's new, improved log-on, will need additional tweaking.
I hope it will be solved.  Besides, HV probably has a special place in
the heart of its creator - the "simple" hv viewer led, eventually, to
the entire WWW/LX suite.

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Stephen,

I used to work for a company that used 3151s.  We had an old DOS program
that emulated the 3151 for our PCs.  I might be able to get a copy of it
if you want it.  I vaguely remember trying it on my 200.

Tom


Stephen Petty wrote:
>
> There was a recent thread regarding terminal emulations - VT100 IIRC. This
> is what I would like to do, if someone could advise on possible problems.
> I use IBM 3151 terminals for email access at work. They use RS 422 (not
> current)
> I would like to purchase a RS 232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use my 200
> to access email. I can handle the aspects of that part of the process, but
> how do I get the computers to talk the same language? I remember Procomm
> having tons of terminal emulations, but I do not have that program anymore.
> (Gone with the 5.25 drive... bad move in hindsight)
> So my questions are this:
> Is there a program that would emulate the IBM 3151 (IBMs web site was no
> help)
> What would I have to do to get this work?
>
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If you don't load the IrDA software and use CPACK, Transfile, Winfiler
or the PAL routines the IR link should work fine. You need to set the
software to use the proper COM port settings.  Set the BIOS for IrDA
1.0.

HTH
Tom


"R. Christopher Lott" wrote:
>
> Just got a new laptop.  I see that the built-in IR has the choices of
> being configured as (a) ASK, (b) IrDA1.0 or (c) IrDA1.1.
>
> Anyone using such an interface to communicate w/their palmtop?
>
> -Chris
>
> --
>
> ************************************************************************
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Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:27:10 -0400 (EDT)

Re the impending demise of the 200LX - maybe we should all invest in
anti-depressant manufacturers.  After reading this disgusting piece of
news, I may need enough Prozac to double the price of the stock.  8-(

Was gonna wait, but I guess I better invest in another 200 while I
still can.  The alleged alternatives really don't bear thinking about.

Later


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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:46:34 -0400
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> > Now when I put the card in and look at it with filer, I see about 8
> > files on there that obviously have to do with the card, but I don't
> > see any of my data. I tried to create a directory, but it won't let
> > me. I got the card free with my old 200lx and it didn't come with any
> > manuals or directions for use.
> >
> Anybody know what's going on with this? Is my data actually on there,
> but I just can't see it? Why can't I create a directory on there?
>
> Thanks for any help!
> Steve

It sounds like you are missing lxmdrv.sys, which needs to be
loaded in config.sys, viz.: device=3DÝpath¨\lxmdrv.sys.  I think
you'll find it on the drive you are looking at (A:?).  Copy
lxmdrv.sys from there to your C: drive and load it from there.
Also, don't forget to load cic100 (or lxcic or another good
replacement.)  Finally, if you are using an Ace drive, I have
learned that these two card drivers are incompatible, so I
have one boot configuration for EXP and another for ACE.

You can find more info, including the manual, on the EXP web
site, www.expnet.com.  Go to Tech Support, and from there you
can download the manual and even the driver.  Be sure you are
looking at the 1414LXM with memory, and the driver for "DOS 5
or lower."

-Geo.

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In a message dated 6/22/1999 09:44:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rlbrooks@IBM.NET writes:

> > I really don't want to see the venerable 200LX go away...
>
>  I'd like to know if their decision is because HP wants it to
>  (finally) go away or if the demand has finally shrunk to a level
>  too small to continue supporting.
>
>  Russ
>
I would like to see a copy of the HP - MS contract WRT WinCE.  Is the evil
giant influencing HP's decision?

Lynn M. Cavendish

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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:50:37 -0400, Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET> wrote:
>
> > This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series palmtop
> > will be discontinued.
>
> Gasp!!!!

Er, is anyone really that surprised?  This day has been coming for about two
years.  But to me, it comes as a note of freedom.

Released from the shackles of active service, the 200LX will be even more
free to evolve on its own away from its parent company.  People now know
that there will never be a factory-supplied backlight, or more internal RAM,
or a motherboard upgrade.  Therefore, we can sink the money in ourselves.

This freedom also means responsibility.  If you want to continue enjoying
your palmtops as long as possible, it will mean money.  I suggest the
founding of a Project Magic-like fund that will keep R&D going in companies
like Thaddeus and Times2 Tech.  Things like 486 motherboard upgrades and
backlights are ready for the final stages of development but are limited by
money.  Why not donate to the cause?  It has the potential to help all of
us.

We must also work together on software.  I have started the sys|x project
(details on news.hplx.net) which will provide a common software base outside
System Manager, which will provide the programming freedom required to
produce programs for large-scale word processing and Internet connectivity.
Sys|x will, if completed, eliminate the System Manager and obsolete PAL,
making things faster and more efficient in the process.  We need open
source, free software to make this happen.

Most of all, we need to pull together.  HPLX-L, it seems to me, is a very
loosely knit bunch of people.  We need distinct areas of expertise to
immortalize this palmtop.  Programmers must unite and write sys|x and its
support applications.  Hardware vendors must come up with the funds to
complete their upgrade projects.  And users must be willing to realize the
delicate position the palmtop maintains as a result of the hardware and
software.  Unite!

Programmers specifically should come to news.hplx.net's group
"hp200.programmers.asg" for details on the sys|x project.  We need all the
help we can get - and we no longer have any reason to wait.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
http://peace.hplx.net/

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>>This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX
>>series palmtop will be discontinued. etc etc


I guess there is little chance our tiny user group can influence
HP, driven as they clearly are by M$, so we have to assume that
they will do as they say they will.

In that event, can someone at Thaddeus or T2T or anyone who is
'in the business' give us an idea of the likely period for which
their aftermarket support of 200LX might continue before running
out of everything?

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:17:51 GMT
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=46WIW most large multi-national companies intentionally design products
with a predetermined life span, unless SALES! and SERVICE agreements
dictate otherwise...=20

Also factory service does not mean your favorite company actually does
the service, most often they sublet the work to service providers for
a flat rate service charge, ie 100$ per unit fixed.

They justify this to minimize costs, if the service was in-house they
would have to pay wages, building permits, taxes and then parts on top
of the time to repair the unit. Not cost effective if you have to keep
people trained etc, sales are poor...

IE the bottom line rules...



On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:44:03 GMT, you wrote:

>> I really don't want to see the venerable 200LX go away...
>
>I'd like to know if their decision is because HP wants it to
>(finally) go away or if the demand has finally shrunk to a level
>too small to continue supporting.
>
>Russ

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Avi,

Great!  I just read about the new release as I am heading out the door on =
a 2/3 day trip.  Hope to have time to try it Thur. or Fri.  Thanks!  Will =
let you know.   =3DBob=3D

> Bob, I hope the AT&T issues are behind us (for now). The WWW/LX Plus =
has been
> updated. ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pubWWW/wwwlx.zip or wwwlx.exe.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:11:08 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> In that event, can someone at Thaddeus or T2T or anyone who is
> 'in the business' give us an idea of the likely period for which
> their aftermarket support of 200LX might continue before running
> out of everything?

Fortunately most of my business is based on upgrading used palmtops as a lot
of folks wait until after the warranty period expires.  I will be around as
long as I maintain a certain level of business which is to be determined.  I
expect to be around at least 3-5 years after they stop making them.

Cheers,
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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:14:28 -0600
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Perhaps, since November is not tomorrow, some of the folks on this mailing list
could devise a plan, perhaps an appeal to HP.

I personally place the 200LX on par with the usefulness of my Pentium desktop
that has the capability to do almost anything I can think of. The LX gets used
though, majorly!

I don't have to go on about the virtues of the LX on this list. But as part of
an appeal to HP, such virtues could be listed. The battle is not over until the
war is lost. Until that time, I'm sure that much discussion will continue. Time
is short, so let's regroup rather quickly and come up with a solution.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Jon Barrett wrote:

>   Just got this from my HP Rep.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> Kensington, MD  jonzann@altavista.net
>
> Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
>  (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:         CRAIG_SCHASIEPEN@HP-USA-om12.om.hp.com
> Ýmailto:CRAIG_SCHASIEPEN@HP-USA-om12.om.hp.com¨
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:29 PM
> > To:   jbarrett@rdasun1.rurdev.usda.gov
> > Subject:      FW: 200LX
> > Importance:   High
> >
> >  Jon, I thought this would be of interest to you.  I got your name as a
> lead
> from the MS 2000 intro. from June 16th.
>
> ----Craig Schasiepen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BRIDGES, ROSS /hp-santaclara,om3
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:13 PM
> To: DERAMO, PATRICE /HP-USA,om12; GRAVATTE, LEE /HP-USA,om12; GROVE, DAN
> /HP-USA,om12; HUGHES, MARK /HP-USA,om12; KLEIN, BRUCE /HP-USA,om12;
> LAWRENCE,
> ALAN /HP-USA,om12; LYLE, BOB /HP-USA,om12; MORAN, TINA /HP-USA,om12; POSEY,
> JEFF /HP-USA,om12; ROMNESS, PETER /HP-USA,om12; SCHASIEPEN, CRAIG
> /HP-USA,om12;
> SETTLE, DAVE /HP-USA,om22; TURNER, MIKE /HP-USA,om12; WATSON, RICK
> /HP-USA,om12
> Subject: 200LX
> Importance: High
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
> This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series palmtop
> will be discontinued.  Please check with you customers and work with them on
> their requirements to replace or order additional units to supplement their
> existing need for this unit before the November 1 date.
> If you have any questions please call .
> Best Regards
> rb
> ============================================================================
> ====
>
> Ross Bridges
> Business Development Manager
> Federal State and Local Government
> Handheld Products
> 408.343.5217
> ross_bridges@hp.com
>
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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:36:04 +0800
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>I just got my lovely 32Mb double speed unit. I'm sticking with this
>puppy till it dies. Then I'll probably STILL look around for another
>used 200lx! : )    In a pinch I'd probably go to a Psion before going
to
>a CE device.
>As for the CF... As long as you can pop a CF into a PCMCIA adapter
we're
>still OK.>Steve


Well I'm waiting in the wings now for all the people with 32 & 64
meg upgrades to get disheartened and sell at discontinued prices.

Regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:14:55 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> Maybe, I am the last one using HV on the Palmtop. But please, D&A, don't
> follow a politic like:
>
> Because HV is discontinued, our new products will no longer
> work reliable with HV.

I regret that you see our best effort as political moves. Andreas and I posted
very specifically why we do not intend to release HV. It is purely business
reasons. Sorry you do not like it. But it does not change the facts.

Let me reiterate: In HV code is embedded the API to WWW.EXE. This is a
business asset of D&A. We do not intend to release it publicly, not any more
than you would willingly put your credit card number and expiration date in a
public newsgroup! (And for the same reasons, BTW...)

I explained about pulling the API code out of the source - we cannot be
assured it will all come out, and it will without a doubt leave HV a buggy
source. That of course will not sit well with the community, because we
released buggy, non-functional code.

> I understand, but regret, that HV is discontinued, but I wish I still could
> use it as it is, whithout having to reboot  several times a day.

I think you do NOT understand. HV is not discontinued. HV is not being worked
on at this time because the platform makes it impossible for us. The great
majority of customers told us again and again: SPEND THE 0resources ON
SOMETHING USEFUL!!! People want better email, not doodads, googaws, gimicks.
People want us to spend the resources on making sure WWW.EXE connects right,
not on painting another black and white image on the screen. 95% of the
people I spoke with do not use the palmtop for browsing. They never intended
to! They got the product for email, newsgroups, ftp, and telnet - all in a
tiny box they can put in their pockets.

Web browsing was never a factor in their purchase decision.

No, you are not the last one using HV to browse. I do too.

Thank you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Liam M. Early wrote:
>
> >I just got my lovely 32Mb double speed unit. I'm sticking with this
> >puppy till it dies. Then I'll probably STILL look around for another
> >used 200lx! : )    In a pinch I'd probably go to a Psion before going
> to
> >a CE device.
> >As for the CF... As long as you can pop a CF into a PCMCIA adapter
> we're
> >still OK.>Steve
>
> Well I'm waiting in the wings now for all the people with 32 & 64
> meg upgrades to get disheartened and sell at discontinued prices.
>
> Regards......Liam
> Bunbury, Western Australia
>
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Hi Liam:

I agree with you just got my hp200lx upgraded by Thaddeus computing, not
about to part with it. I had a psion 3a before it's nice even the 5
series is nice. I am sold on HP. There is noting like the HP200LX YET!!

                       Hang in there
                           Bob

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Bob Meyer wrote:
>
> Perhaps, since November is not tomorrow, some of the folks on this mailing list
> could devise a plan, perhaps an appeal to HP.
>
> I personally place the 200LX on par with the usefulness of my Pentium desktop
> that has the capability to do almost anything I can think of. The LX gets used
> though, majorly!
>
> I don't have to go on about the virtues of the LX on this list. But as part of
> an appeal to HP, such virtues could be listed. The battle is not over until the
> war is lost. Until that time, I'm sure that much discussion will continue. Time
> is short, so let's regroup rather quickly and come up with a solution.
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
>
> Jon Barrett wrote:
>
> >   Just got this from my HP Rep.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Jon Barrett
> > Kensington, MD  jonzann@altavista.net
> >
> > Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
> >  (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)
> >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:         CRAIG_SCHASIEPEN@HP-USA-om12.om.hp.com
> > Ýmailto:CRAIG_SCHASIEPEN@HP-USA-om12.om.hp.com¨
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:29 PM
> > > To:   jbarrett@rdasun1.rurdev.usda.gov
> > > Subject:      FW: 200LX
> > > Importance:   High
> > >
> > >  Jon, I thought this would be of interest to you.  I got your name as a
> > lead
> > from the MS 2000 intro. from June 16th.
> >
> > ----Craig Schasiepen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BRIDGES, ROSS /hp-santaclara,om3
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:13 PM
> > To: DERAMO, PATRICE /HP-USA,om12; GRAVATTE, LEE /HP-USA,om12; GROVE, DAN
> > /HP-USA,om12; HUGHES, MARK /HP-USA,om12; KLEIN, BRUCE /HP-USA,om12;
> > LAWRENCE,
> > ALAN /HP-USA,om12; LYLE, BOB /HP-USA,om12; MORAN, TINA /HP-USA,om12; POSEY,
> > JEFF /HP-USA,om12; ROMNESS, PETER /HP-USA,om12; SCHASIEPEN, CRAIG
> > /HP-USA,om12;
> > SETTLE, DAVE /HP-USA,om22; TURNER, MIKE /HP-USA,om12; WATSON, RICK
> > /HP-USA,om12
> > Subject: 200LX
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Good afternoon all,
> >
> > This is a notification that as of November 1, 1999 the 200LX series palmtop
> > will be discontinued.  Please check with you customers and work with them on
> > their requirements to replace or order additional units to supplement their
> > existing need for this unit before the November 1 date.
> > If you have any questions please call .
> > Best Regards
> > rb
> > ============================================================================
> > ====
> >
> > Ross Bridges
> > Business Development Manager
> > Federal State and Local Government
> > Handheld Products
> > 408.343.5217
> > ross_bridges@hp.com
> >
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Yes Bob I agree we need to regroup FAST!! ANY thought's from the rest
of LX's ???

                              Bob Elliott Jr

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Thanks,
Bob

Cgldent@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> Mine says
> MODEL: 48DR-5-1000
> INPUT: 120VAC 60Hz 13W
> OUTPUT: 5VDX 1000mA
> I.T.E. Power Supply
> CLASS 2 TRANSFORMER
>
> +-----------O-------------

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:11:56 +1200
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> sorry, I couldn't find a shorter subject line...
>
> how can I put an icon in AppMgr for a specified database GDB file that
> loads the database app and opens the GDB file directly?
>
> TNX
> daniel
>
Daniel
i use a program called DBL.COM that allows an Icon on your main menu
screen
that will go directly into a database *.gdb file or *.pdb without first
manually opening the database.
try SUPER for the zip file & it comes with instructions

John
NZ

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:33:28 -0400
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The idea about building a new HP is good -- so good in fact that I
suggested the same a couple of years ago :). And I was probably not the
first to do so.

As far as I remember, the problem is that developing hardware like the
LX demands millions of $ (don't ask me why). What we will realistically
be able to get is at best orders for a limited number of expensive
"lx"-clones.

If I am wrong (and let's hope so), count me in on the software side
(systems and/or application).

However, I can see no point in reverse engineering HP's software (or
writing new ditto) in the slim hope that some hardware one day might be
available.

I am instead (slowly) following the developments in wearable computers,
hoping that there soon will be some less geek'ish solutions available.

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:38:21 GMT
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Hi David,

> Does anybody know of a parallel-port CompactFlash reader that will work on
> a DOS desktop computer?

Yes. Mine does. It's shipped with DOS and Windows drivers and works
great in DOS.
I posted details about it some days ago. I'll see if I find the message
in my outbox... ;-)

.
.
.

looked for it, but, sorry, I deleted it already. Maybe someone still
has it and can repost it to David? Thanks!

It's this message describing a compact flash card reader 'made' (?) by
HAMA...


GTX
daniel

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Hi Stefan, Andreas, Avi.....


> In other situations, the new WWW.EXE just says HV_001.MIME in
> the header line of HV and the screen remains blanc.

This is also my problem. But I had it also with the previous release of
WWW/LX.
In the previous release it was easy to fix: I had a (correct!) proxy
entry in the ÝISP_PPP¨ section of WWW.CFG, but this always resulted in
this problem Stefan described. I had to remove this entry (by writing a
";" before the line) to make HV work. After this it was working, but
_very_ slow, especially when downloading files (for example from
www.dasoft.com)

>
> All this did not happen with the previous release of WWW.EXE,
> and hence cannot be HV related.

s.o.

>
> Maybe, I am the last one using HV on the Palmtop. But please,
> D&A, don't follow a politic like:

What do others use?

GTX
daniel

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Hi John,

> i use a program called DBL.COM that allows an Icon on your main menu
> screen
> that will go directly into a database *.gdb file or *.pdb without first
> manually opening the database.
> try SUPER for the zip file & it comes with instructions

Ah, thank you! That was exactly what I was looking for! (I remembered
there was a utility for that, but didn't remember the name, and I
searched in the entire SUPER but didn't find such a utility.

Now I will search again!

Thanks

daniel

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:51:09 +0100
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> The new WWW.EXE seems to have bugs in combination with HV.

The new WWW/LX supports HTTP 1.1 (the older versions HTTP 1.0). It was
added because the "virtual host thingies" become more popular. In my
opinion this virtual host stuff is absolutely idiotical because it is
not upward compatible. It seems that www.palmtop.net is reacting
differently to a HTTP 1.0 request that to a HTTP 1.1 request and I
assume this causes the problem. I don't know yet what it is.

The only thing I know, however: the more "improvements" there will be
on the net, the less *any* browsers apart from IE and NetScape will be
able to keep up with "progress" :-(

> life. There are also strange hex numbers in the htm document,

You even see them when telnetting to that site and do it manually. I
was already asking what that is supposed to do.

> Maybe, I am the last one using HV on the Palmtop.

> But please,
> D&A, don't follow a politic like:

When I joined this list again, I said that I won't discuss pricing nor
politics. Is your intention to solve a problem or to chase me off this
list?

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:39:24 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>not on painting another black and white image on the screen. 95% of
the
>people I spoke with do not use the palmtop for browsing. They never
intended
>to! They got the product for email, newsgroups, ftp, and telnet - all
in a
>tiny box they can put in their pockets.
>Web browsing was never a factor in their purchase decision.
>Thank you.>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨


I'll butt in here 8-)   I don't use WWW.EXE, and to be honest this
is partly because I misunderstood the product.  I thought it's main
focus was web browsing, and thought to myself this is a stupid
idea to browse the web with a mono CGA HP.  The majority of
web pages are now very dynamic with java, shockwave, VRML etc,
there are a few sites developing out there for the PalmPC, however
these will rely heavily on colour.

There is not a snowballs chance in hell of Andreas coding a web
page viewer for the humble HP that can keep up with AOL and
Microsoft (no matter how good he is).  So please support the
remaining software suppliers for the 200LX.  With the forcoming
end to the HP200 manufacture / support, our toys will be useless
in 2-3 years even if they are the best handheld PC created ( so
far 8-)  ).

>People want better email, not doodads, googaws, gimicks.

By the way I know what a doodad and a gimick is, but I have yet
to see a googaw, has anyone got a web site where I can look at
one of these <grin>.

Best regards to all......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:41:07 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Avi,

I didn't want you to release the HV source code. All I wish is,
I could use HV  - as it is - with every new release of WWW.EXE,
because I also want to upgrade to new WWW, POST, NEWS, FTP ...

HV is for me even more important than POST, because there are
no alternatives. D&A has the monopoly for web browsing on the
palmtop. There is no competitor visible at the horizon.

Day by day, more and more valuable information is only
available through the www and hence web browsing. I'm not
talking of rainbow press sites, but stock information, hotel
reservation, online buy, auctions ...

It is hard for me to understand, why D&A decided to put it's
force into a market segment (email, news, network) where it has
to compete with freeware/shareware products, instead of
comfortably laying back on their monopoly, coming up with a
browser product and leaving behind the HV freeware.

I'm willing to pay another $80 for a web browser which
continues to work with the *BASIC* new html stuff, not the
fancy glitter.

Every time I have to start my desktop for web browsing, I have
to keep the windows closed, because otherwise I'm tempted to
through it out of the window: 1 minute to boot, 1 minute to
click through windows, 2 minutes until IE connects and starts,
and x minutes until something is visible on the screen.

Even if I use the same ISP on a 486 at 56kBaud, HV+WWW is
faster on the palmtop at 14kBaud in displaying web pages.
WWW+HV must have a built in "right of way" on the internet.
That's my only explanation why it is so fast and I would love
to be able to use it in the years to come.

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:49:08 -0500
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Martin Sebastian wrote:
>
> hi everyone,
>
> As you know the 'Super-Advanced Win-Ce' Systems, only can read to a MAX
> of 32 mb flash cards.
>
> I have a 40mb Simpletech card, and i need to use it with an HP Jornada,
> (Fancy machine) but a piece of crap.
>
> Anyone know how to format it to 32mb, using the 200lx ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Martin Sebastian
> Marseb@giga.com.ar
>
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i think you can partition and reformat it, (i this card accept a write
to the 'track 0')...

pienso que podrias reparicionarla y reformatearla si acepta escritura en
el track 0...

but the CF knows about your geometry  (and the socket chip too), and if
the HP reads a dos partition this metod work, but if the HP needs a 32
MB cf because it reads a 64k sector cf, you are in a trouble, understand
?

pero la tarjeta y el chip de soquete conocen la geometria de (de la cf),
si la HP lee una particion va a funcionar, pero si quiere una cf de 32
MB porque lee los 64k de sectores (y no mas ni menos) ignorando las
particiones y esas cosas, estas en problemas.... comprendes...

ademas las cf de 32mb valen como $250 ahi en galeria jardin

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Terry Owen <owen6511@earthlink.net> wrote:

Those that have Netcom now can keep their shell access but according
to their web site, new customers will not have it.  (Mindspring
bought Netcom.)  Bummer - I would've switched ISP's to get shell
access.


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Boy! Times are changing. Like you said "Bummer".


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Message text written by INTERNET:hobchi@JUNO.COM
>There is a (Exemptery)Ýsic: Exemplary¨ database of database
tips on super?It has a (note) field hidden which can be seen,
if you hit F3.  How I copy data/info into it or
create it?   I want to add what I already have.
Can I  copy or merge data into it? .
<

The Note field is on the second screen. You can add to it with the F3 key=

to import a file or load a file in Memo and copy and paste into the note
field. The database is really meant to be used in conjunction with the tw=
o
database articles in The HP Palmtop Paper.  =

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Does anyone else on the list live in London?

I was looking in Tottenham Court Road for a new HP200. I got
the predictable "British Museum" comments. One slightly older
(no offence if he's reading!) Indian owner eyed me suspiciously and asked =
why I wanted one.

"Nothing ever beat them", I said.
"I quite agree", he replied, pulling a 200 from his pocket!

Anyway, he didn't have any (he'd sold the last 4 cheap, cos nobody wanted =
them any more - sob), but he ordered one (2MB) for me. It arrived 10 days =
later for a reasonable (I thought) =A3350. He can also get 4MB models if =
need be.

Anybody need the details, just say so. I've no connection, just a customer=
. I also got a new modem for =A350. It's a 33.6, but only draws 100mA max =
(according to the tech bit in the manual), so I can use it in the HP and =
my laptop (at the higher speeds).

Next stop is upgrading to double speed and more RAM. My wife will just =
have to eat less, that's all! Anyway, I bought it for her, honest ;-)
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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:28:23 +0100
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Well not *in* London but near enough.  You didn't find any accessories around did you ?  I'd quite like a second power supply. I know I could always buy one from RS, but I do like the HP one, even if we don't get the folding pins of the US model.  Otherwise I'll get bits from Rundel in Germany.

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

You can't really do that with Application Manager.  You can, however, with
XFinder or SMMX.  I use SMMX and have a "DB" icon on the main menu.
Selecting that brings up another SMMX menu with icons for all my
databases.

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As David suggested you can use XFinder or SMMX.

Also try Open:

OPEN will launch a built-in application when you specify a data filename as the
program's command line parameter. You can use it to open a Database file with
one action or to add data files to the Application Manager. Originally part of
the software collection sold with the "HP200LX Software Bible" co-authored by
Hiroyuki Sekiya and Hirotaka Hamada, published by Softbank, Tokyo, in April
1996 (ISBN4-89052-911-X). Now released as copyrighted freeware. New version
fixes some bugs and adds some new features.


HTH


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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:19:02 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<  Just got this from my HP Rep.>>

I have been hearing things for some time now about the fate of the 200LX.
However, I had it on very good authority that no decision had been made as
of a week ago.  On the other hand, Ross Bridges of HP would definitely have
the authority to send that email.  So I would guess it is probably true.

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:24:43 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<In that event, can someone at Thaddeus or T2T or anyone who is
'in the business' give us an idea of the likely period for which
their aftermarket support of 200LX might continue before running
out of everything?>>

We expect to be in business at least another 3 years, probably mor.  We
served HP Portable Plus and HP150 users for many years after they were
discontinued.  Since we do repairs, upgrades, and recycle 200LX's by
refurbishing and selling them, I expect our business to remain strong for
some time to come as this should be a good business after HP stops selling
them.

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:39:33 -0500
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<<Didn't I just read an article in a fairly recent PTP that HP did NOT
intend to discontinue the 200LX because it was still selling well, etc?>>

Can't always trust what you read ):   Actually, until about 2 months ago,
indications were that HP would continue selling them for a long time.

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I've read of users on this list trying the new LX's and not liking the
experience. Anyone out there want to sell one?

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:10:42 +0200
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              "Joseph J. Kaelin" <jjk@JKAELIN.CH>
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Howdy,

I would like to be able to transfer photos (jpeg) between my Olympus
C-840L Digital Camera and the HP200, using a PCMCIA adapter for the
SmartMedia.  My preference would be to use the newer 16 MB SmartMedia
cards.

I have tried a few PCMCIA adapters.  The Olympus and Fuji adapters
reported "drive not ready".  A Ricoh adapter (apparently limited to 8
MB cards) read and wrote OK.  I haven't been able to find other cards
available at dealers, which I can try out.  I am reluctant to mail
order until I know for sure what works!

Does anyone in the group know of specific Smart Media adapters which
work with the HP200?  Are there any other factors to consider?  The
specs I have found on most adapters (Microtech, Viking, Kingston plus
the above to name a few) look to me generally all right for the HP200.
 But maybe there are other aspects I am not aware of.

Thanks for all advice.




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Hi Daniel.

I usually (99% of the time) have my LX plugged in next to my bed before I sleep,
so running out of power is usually not a concern of mine.

I also don't run SC, so I can't answer your SC question.  After all, with
commands like

     pkzip -es -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\backup\cdrive.zip c:\*.*

do I need to make my life more complicated? <g>.

- Longden





Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@gmx.de> on 06/22/99 04:00:18 PM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
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Hi Longden,

> I usually run my backups automatically, just after midnight so speed is
usually
> not a consideration... but those of you who need to run this backup manually
may
> find the added -es switch useful in cutting down the time.  Thanks Helmuth!
>

Do you make sure somehow that the battery doesn't go down while backup?

And: Do you run SC? Is it okay to make a full C backup while in a SC
session?

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I think DOS command line execution was a requirement or preference as the
original poster already had a GUI that did the job.  I think both of our
solutions only mimic his GUI at best.

- Longden





Cavendishl@aol.com on 06/22/99 05:25:45 PM

To:   HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu, Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  Re: Reformat Utility Sought




In a message dated 6/22/1999 02:56:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM writes:

> You may be able to output the data from 123 as fixed fields using
/PrintFile,
>  in which case, a series of 123 macros may better suffice to extract the
>  information.

In 1-2-3, just delete the columns you don't want to distribute (evidently,
the required output differs from day to day) use the /Print File option, then
DO NOT SAVE THE FILE.

Problem solved (or else I misunderstood it -- which is a distinct
possibility.)

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      200LX

Ian
Do you know basically and specifically how the
LX motherboard and video can be improved
upgraded with minor and major renovations?

yor pal al................................................

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Subject:      Re: Database

Morning Ed
>The Note field is on the second screen.
You can add to it with the F3
>key to import a file or load a file in Memo
and copy and paste into the note field.
The database is really meant to be used in
conjunction with the two database articles
in The HP Palmtop Paper.

So that means I can't add my database to it
or add your file to my database?

Where can I find the docs to create this type
of DB from scratch (where the note field doesn't
take up screen space)?

TIA,
yor pal al.....................................

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:31:37 +0000
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              Jeremy Martinson <Jeremy.Martinson@BIOANTHROPOLOGY.OXFORD.AC.UK>
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Sorry about the daft question, but my HP200LX doesn't seem to have a serial
number on it. On the underside, next to the battery cover, is a long panel
embossed into the case. It has some copyright information, and symbols
saying that the HP200LX is CE-approved (before you all foam at the mouth,
that's the European Community....), but nothing like a serial number. Still
on the underside, close to PCMCIA ejector, is a different colour panel,
which I assume is the one that can be engraved with your name, but it's
blank too. Have I got some strange black-market, no-questions-asked machine?
Or has it been stolen and wiped of its former identity? FWIW, my HP200 is a
Korean machine with some fancy script on the keyboard - maybe some poor soul
in Seoul (sorry...) is filing an insurance claim as I write.

Jeremy

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Now that you mention it, www.buy.com also has a Cameramate reader/writer for CF,
PCMCIA Type I/II/III for $46.95...

     http://www.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10071339

It connects to the parallel port also...anyone have one of these?

- Longden





"Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> on 06/22/99 02:05:17 PM

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Subject:  Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98




If you are interested in using compact flash (CF) cards (not PCMCIA cards),
Sandisk makes a CF card reader/writer with either parallel (Win9x & Win NT)
or USB (Win 9x) versions.

See www.sandisk.com.

It's available thru www.buycomp.com for less than $50

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Yor Pal Al wrote:

> Where can I find the docs to create this type of DB from scratch
> (where the note field doesn't take up screen space)?

All you have to do is hit Page Down on the screen, which will take you to
the second page.  Add your note field there.  Then it won't show up on the
"main" screen but will still be a part of the database.

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The serial number should be stamped on the right of the CE area.

Wayne

Jeremy Martinson wrote:

> Sorry about the daft question, but my HP200LX doesn't seem to have a serial
> number on it. On the underside, next to the battery cover, is a long panel
> embossed into the case. It has some copyright information, and symbols
> saying that the HP200LX is CE-approved (before you all foam at the mouth,
> that's the European Community....), but nothing like a serial number. Still
> on the underside, close to PCMCIA ejector, is a different colour panel,
> which I assume is the one that can be engraved with your name, but it's
> blank too. Have I got some strange black-market, no-questions-asked machine?
> Or has it been stolen and wiped of its former identity? FWIW, my HP200 is a
> Korean machine with some fancy script on the keyboard - maybe some poor soul
> in Seoul (sorry...) is filing an insurance claim as I write.
>
> Jeremy
>
> (sig removed for the convenience of those who pay-by-the-byte)
>
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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Wayne Thompson wrote:

> The serial number should be stamped on the right of the CE area.

I also have a couple of 200LXes with no serial number stamped on the case.
My guess is they're units that were remanufactured by HP and for some
reason they replaced the bottom part of the case.  But I could be wrong.

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Casio CE300

Morning all;
Has anyone any experience with this geegaw?
It is a ccd camera on the edge of a type II
ATA flash adapter card and seems like it would
work on the LX.

Some specs: 320X240 pixels.
Selectable focal length f2.8 - f8.
DOS SW.  Rotatable head 180 d.

yor pal al.........................................


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Subject:      Re: Where's my serial number?

Sounds inneresting
The serial # should be to the right of the
what you describe and is not on a removable
part unless one substitutes the case or polishes
the number off. From what you describe it's
too good a job and too much much effort
for a one shot thief.  Perchance a knock off?
They do ROLEXs don't they?

yor pal al.......................................................

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I though this news server was shut down.  No?

Don.


>Programmers specifically should come to news.hplx.net's group
>"hp200.programmers.asg" for details on the sys|x project.  We need all the
>help we can get - and we no longer have any reason to wait.

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The serial number normally shows up on the right side of the "long panel
embossed into the case", next to the word SINGAPORE.

Maybe you have one of those rare models with no serial number and a high
Midchlorian count <g>.

- Longden





Jeremy Martinson <Jeremy.Martinson@BIOANTHROPOLOGY.OXFORD.AC.UK> on 06/23/99
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Subject:  Where's my serial number?




Sorry about the daft question, but my HP200LX doesn't seem to have a serial
number on it. On the underside, next to the battery cover, is a long panel
embossed into the case. It has some copyright information, and symbols
saying that the HP200LX is CE-approved (before you all foam at the mouth,
that's the European Community....), but nothing like a serial number. Still
on the underside, close to PCMCIA ejector, is a different colour panel,
which I assume is the one that can be engraved with your name, but it's
blank too. Have I got some strange black-market, no-questions-asked machine?
Or has it been stolen and wiped of its former identity? FWIW, my HP200 is a
Korean machine with some fancy script on the keyboard - maybe some poor soul
in Seoul (sorry...) is filing an insurance claim as I write.

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Subject:      Re: Database

David
I want to copy to/from a file to this type of DB
not just to add to records individually.

TIA yor pal al...................................

>> Where can I find the docs to create this type of DB from scratch
>> (where the note field doesn't take up screen space)?
>
>All you have to do is hit Page Down on the screen,
which will take you to the second page.  Add your note field there.  Then
it won't show up on the "main" screen but will still be a part of the
database.
>

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Peniel
Finally got it last night. That added piece you added to your message
yesterday did the rtrick.
Thanks
Tony Guzewicz

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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:59:05 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> =
wrote:

> I though this news server was shut down.  No?

Hmmm... <scratch head>.... nope <g>!

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:45:07 -0500 (EST)

09h30m12s ago ...
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:


> > I understand, but regret, that HV is discontinued, but I wish I still =
could
> > use it as it is, whithout having to reboot  several times a day.
>
> I think you do NOT understand. HV is not discontinued. HV is not being =
worked
> on at this time because the platform makes it impossible for us. The =
great
> majority of customers told us again and again: SPEND THE 0resources ON
> SOMETHING USEFUL!!!...
>
> No, you are not the last one using HV to browse. I do too.

     Of Course I do not use WWW/LX/HV as my primary WEB browser, but I
find it invaluable to be able to grab something quickly, or look
something up. Plus what ever info I get, is instantly available "in my
pocket". The TELNET & FTP utilities are great (especially the newest
TELNET revision), POST/LX is my primary EMail client, but I use HV to
pick something off the WEB at least every other day, if not every day.
At the time, HV was my reason for purchasing WWW/LX ;-)

     While I do admit to rebooting my LX occassionally, It is with far
more frequency that I boot my W95 desktop...and it takes 5x longer (no
exaggeration) to get back to work!

Cheers,


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"Joseph J. Kaelin" wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Does anyone in the group know of specific Smart Media adapters which
> work with the HP200?  Are there any other factors to consider?  The
> specs I have found on most adapters (Microtech, Viking, Kingston plus
> the above to name a few) look to me generally all right for the HP200.
>  But maybe there are other aspects I am not aware of.
>
>
I have a "Snapz!" PCMCIA adapter for smart media that works in the
HP200. Also works with my 16MB SM card; at least my quick test lets me
read and write files. I have the 3.3 volt version, and 3.3 vol. SM
cards; I don't know what the story is on the other voltage cards and
what voltage your camera uses, that might be a concern.
Bryan

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:35:11 +0200
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A bit off topic but here goes:

How do I convert a directory containing a bunch of different filetypes to
lets say .TXT. (they are always different)
It is ok to just add a extension like:
hoho.hej  ->  hoho.hej.txt

I would like to make a batch file that adds .TXT to all the files in
the directory

any ideas.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Read in a newsgroup that you could press Esc and then ON to get into
selftest mode on a Hp 200..well I did..now I can not get my cf 24 mb
Sandisk to work.

It got erased and I can not "find" it in the filer. I have tried the
card both in my Hp 700 Lx and my Hp 200 Lx. It just does not work. When
I put it into my Hp 200 and run the self test:"Plug- in ram card" test I
get first 000 4 and then it says "Card bad"

If I then put the card into my Siemens laptop. The card is 322kb
large..if I reformat it I can use it on the laptop but still not on the
Hp lx's..I think I have done everything I can think of..what happend
with my card? Can I get it to work again?

I have been in contact with the company that sold me the card to hear if
I can get it swapped with a new one..bought it in december for 129$..

Thanks in advance...I am lost without my hp..

-Mvh/Best Regards
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Subject:      TECH: suggestion (was Bug in new WWW.EXE)
Comments: To: garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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> The new WWW/LX supports HTTP 1.1 (the older versions HTTP 1.0). It was

Andreas,

The Host: header is *very* important, but make sure that is all you added
and that you aren't reporting an HTTP/1.1 browser.  Reporting yourself as
supporting HTTP/1.1 involves also handling a gob of other junk, like
chunked encoding.

Keep reporting yourself as supporting HTTP/1.0 but include the Host:
header and everything should be ok.  I was looking at supporting the full
HTTP/1.1 in a utility I wrote (my daytime job), but it was going to be
alot of work and I mainly needed the virtual hosts stuff to work.

I'll bet that what people are reporting as hex characters on the screen is
an artifact of chunked encoding coming back from the server which thinks
you are a full HTTP/1.1 compliant browser.  It works perfectly well to
claim you are an HTTP/1.0 browser even though you have a Host: header, and
you don't have to support all the extra junk in the newer spec.

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Well, from all your replies it looks like I'm looking in the right place,
but there's no number there. If I have a knock-off, it's a damn good one as
it works as well as the original item. Of course, after November this may be
the only kind of HP200 one can buy....I can already hear the "Genuine copy
HP200LX" pitches from the vendors in Tsimshatsui :-)

I suppose that, if my HP200 doesn't have a serial #, then I can't take
advantage of the trade-up (up?) to a Jornada offer that HP are running at
the moment. So things aren't all THAT bad.

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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:43:04 -0400 (EDT)

36m46s ago ...
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> Finally got it last night. That added piece you added to your message
> yesterday did the rtrick.

Hi Tony-

Glad to hear it!  I thought my original post made sense, because I
already knew what I MEANT to say...  After re-reading it it DID seem
about clear as mud.  Good to know that the clarification message really
helped.

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The self-test for "Plug-in ram card" is intended for SRAM cards and not flash,
nor CF.  My understanding is that the test can wipe out the data on flash.

However, I believe the card is still usuable.. try running d:\bin\fdisk100.exe
to reinitialize the CF.

- Longden





Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> on 06/23/99 07:40:04 AM

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Subject:  Esc & On nuked my compact flash card




Read in a newsgroup that you could press Esc and then ON to get into
selftest mode on a Hp 200..well I did..now I can not get my cf 24 mb
Sandisk to work.

It got erased and I can not "find" it in the filer. I have tried the
card both in my Hp 700 Lx and my Hp 200 Lx. It just does not work. When
I put it into my Hp 200 and run the self test:"Plug- in ram card" test I
get first 000 4 and then it says "Card bad"

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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:54:18 -0400 (EDT)

16m22s ago ...
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Read in a newsgroup that you could press Esc and then ON to get into
> selftest mode on a Hp 200..well I did..now I can not get my cf 24 mb
> Sandisk to work.

Esc-On shouldn't hurt the card...    But you should NEVER run the RAM
card test on flash cards (PCMCIA or CF).  The test is ONLY for SRAM
cards.

> It got erased and I can not "find" it in the filer. I have tried the
> card both in my Hp 700 Lx and my Hp 200 Lx. It just does not work. When
> I put it into my Hp 200 and run the self test:"Plug- in ram card" test =
I
> get first 000 4 and then it says "Card bad"

The test isn't for flash cards.  You MAY be able to get the card
working in the palmtop again by putting it back in and running the
command FDISK 100 from the DOS prompt.  Then try reformatting it.  It's
very unfortunate that the self-test screen doesn't have any warning
about not running the card test on anything except SRAM.

HTH


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The serial number may have been on a sticker that has come off.  I had a
100lx that went in for repair to hp.  When I got it back the serial number
was on a sticker.  After time the sticker came off and there was no serial
number under the sticker.  This may be the reason you do not have a serial
number.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Where's my serial number?


Well, from all your replies it looks like I'm looking in the right place,
but there's no number there. If I have a knock-off, it's a damn good one as
it works as well as the original item. Of course, after November this may be
the only kind of HP200 one can buy....I can already hear the "Genuine copy
HP200LX" pitches from the vendors in Tsimshatsui :-)

I suppose that, if my HP200 doesn't have a serial #, then I can't take
advantage of the trade-up (up?) to a Jornada offer that HP are running at
the moment. So things aren't all THAT bad.

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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:06:17 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Gang-

Oops-  in my last post I mentioned "FDISK 100".  This should be
FDISK100 without the space.  Sorry about that.

-PR

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IMO you are asking for trouble if you do this anywhere except perhaps
in Unix. While some of the versions of DOS that underlie various
versions of Windows will allow names of the kind you are creating,
other versions of DOS clearly won't allow them, thus introducing
backup and cross-system compatibility problems. Also, various pieces of
software may, or may not, like this type of name. And Windows/Dos is
almost guaranteed to give you a severe problem somewhere with filenames
that contain a `.' ...

I'd work hard to find another way to accomplish whatever it is you
are trying to accomplish.

Tomas Moberg wrote:
>
> A bit off topic but here goes:
>
> How do I convert a directory containing a bunch of different filetypes to
> lets say .TXT. (they are always different)
> It is ok to just add a extension like:
> hoho.hej  ->  hoho.hej.txt
>
> I would like to make a batch file that adds .TXT to all the files in
> the directory
>
> any ideas.
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Steven Lawson wrote:
> > The new WWW/LX supports HTTP 1.1 (the older versions HTTP 1.0). It was
>
> Andreas,
>
> The Host: header is *very* important, but make sure that is all you added
> and that you aren't reporting an HTTP/1.1 browser.

Why didn't you tell that before we released the new version of WWW.EXE?
:-)

All of your analysis is 100% correct, including the hex characters. I
came to the same conclusions and replaced 1.1 by 1.0. That virtual
host stuff indeed seems to work without declaring 1.1.

>  Reporting yourself as
> supporting HTTP/1.1 involves also handling a gob of other junk, like
> chunked encoding.

I had a look at the RFC. Even the size of the RFC makes obvious what
you call "junk"!

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The DATA IS GONE!!!!

The sram card test is ONLY FOR SRAM.

It can kill all data and the format of a FLASHcard.  (some cards can
survive but since no one knows which ones will, any self-test of a
FLASHcard should be totally avoided)

You will need to use the fdisk utility on the d: drive (in bin or dos???
directory) and then you will need to run format either from Filer or
from the dos prompt.  Then restore from backups if possible

Sorry about your dataloss.

good luck

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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> I though this news server was shut down.  No?

We changed our mind and decided to continue news service.  We are
currently working on ways to improve it as well...

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Yor Pal Al wrote:

> I want to copy to/from a file to this type of DB not just to add to
> records individually.

What do you mean?  Import from another database, or something else?

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Ian,

> Most of all, we need to pull together.  HPLX-L, it seems to me, is a =
very
> loosely knit bunch of people.  We need distinct areas of expertise to
> immortalize this palmtop.  Programmers must unite and write sys|x and =
its
> support applications.  Hardware vendors must come up with the funds to
> complete their upgrade projects.  And users must be willing to realize =
the
> delicate position the palmtop maintains as a result of the hardware and
> software.  Unite!

Count me in on uniting and supporting. I don't have the wit's
to contribute on programming however.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Tomas Moberg wrote:

>How do I convert a directory containing a bunch of different filetypes =
to
>lets say .TXT. (they are always different)
>It is ok to just add a extension like:
>hoho.hej  ->  hoho.hej.txt
>
>I would like to make a batch file that adds .TXT to all the files in
>the directory

If you want to do this from the DOS command line, you can use this
simple command:

  ren *.* *.txt

This will change the extension of every file to .txt. It might be
different in NT, since the command prompt in NT handles long file
names seamlessly.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
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We clearly have differing definitions of `seamless'!

NT certainly _allows_ all kinds of screwy things, such as blanks
in file names. Some places in NT these are handled without any
problem whatever. Other places you are chopped up worse than
chicken liver when they are encountered (drag and drop contexts are
just one example).

There is a lot of legacy code around which will generally work just
fine in NT and 95 (I can't speak for 98 as I haven't used it) so long
as `legacy' rules about file names are observed. When you don't
follow the old rules, lots of stuff---both old and new---breaks.

Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> If you want to do this from the DOS command line, you can use this
> simple command:
>
>   ren *.* *.txt
>
> This will change the extension of every file to .txt. It might be
> different in NT, since the command prompt in NT handles long file
> names seamlessly.
>
> Curtis Cameron

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Hi frinds,

does anyone here know if it's possible to use a GSM 1800 phone
(I'm E-Plus customer, E-Plus is a German GSM 1800 mobile phone provider)
with the HP 700LX?

I asked Thomas Rundel and he said, there was a phone made by Nokia
called '2190' that was GSM 1800 compatible. But he couldn't say it for
sure.

TNX
daniel

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Hi Crutie,

> There are other switch options to PKZIP which are useful for doing
> backups. I use it to back up my PC to big zip files which I then store
> on CD-R's.
> Ý...¨

Thanks, Curtis, for your great tips!
I knew that this _can_ be done, but I didn't know how to do that and
also I'm always carefully to 'test' new pkzip options.
But since you gave me the exact command lines and said it worked -

I'll consider which backup stratigy is the best for me.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

is there anyone who tried to use DoubleSpace from DOS 6.2 on the
palmtop?

Any success?

GTX
daniel

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              Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU>
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   Hello All,
 The recent breaking news about H-P announcing discontinuation
 of the HP200LX are certainly disappointing. All of us have
 witnessed official HP statements, which said that 200LX will
 remain in manufacture beyond 2000. I think these were binding.
 However, pursuing legal procedures to force HP carry on the
 DOS palmtop are the last resort. I'd rather prefer xxxxxx to
 to hiring solicitors. Look at what we can do for good.

An organization should carry the task of notifying each and
 every person who is or had been professonally related to LX.
 Starting with the 100/200LX creator team, who likely have
 specific rights and could probably influence HP's behaviour!
 An independent survey into the legal situation regarding hard-
 ware, firmware, ROM-based software, Application Software and
 logo/goodwill rights ownership regarding the HP DOS palmtop
 line is mandatory. Completing this tedious job, we could see
 who has influence of the device's future and whom to approach
 when lobbying for the device's future.

Mr. Jorgen Wallgren (and other HP employees) should try to
 investigate, if soon-to-separate HP Measurement and Medical
 Systems Company (also in charge of Business and Scientific
 Calculators production) would be interested in taking over
 the Singapore plant or at least its machinery and continue
 production (and maybe even development) of the non-WinCE palm-
 top line, to integrate them into their product offering.

I have previously written about the similarity of technology
 and origin of high-end HP calcs and the palmtop. IMO, the
 benefits for (yet unnamed) HP Medical & Measurement should be
 easy to demonstrate. Such an inside company transfer of pro-
 duct manufacturing could be undertaken in a short period of
 time and be largely transparent to end users, a major concern.

Of course, news/developments of this thread will be company
 secrets for a while; but I think Mr. Wallgreen should be able
 to respond to this list, stating his personal opinion: whether
 we users sending request/supportive mails regarding this sub-
 ject to HP Measurement Co. would be of positive or bad effect.

Should both H-Ps prove uninterested in the 200LX line, other
 companies should be approached. The 1000CX, basically 200LX
 without any HP/Lotus copyright ROM software, could be manufac-
 tured by other companies. One candidate should be Tektronix,
 a prestigious firm with extreme goodwill in Measurement field.
 Also Tektronix has been manufacturing a whole variety of high
 end terminals, from X11/Unix to WinCE/Citrix Winframe based.
 Thus it could be integrated into their offering.
 (Also there are some cooperative ties between HP and Tek).

Other (rather wild) idea is Psion PLC of England. Should they
 be able to obtain the 1000CX hardware, they could produce a
 Psion 3mx replacement device, that can run both Epoc16 and DOS
 for a palmtop that sells equally well in USA, Europe and rest.
 Psion was constantly criticized for the non-standard expansion
 card hardware inside their (otherwise 8086 based) Psion 3 line
 and for the whole butchered Psion S5 line suffering from RISC.
 1000CX hardware should solve these problems once and for all.
 (EPOC16 does have developers' version running PC compatible.)
 Still more stupid idea is IBM Japan (of PC110 fame).

I'm skeptic about small companies taking over LX production
 or develoment (like replacement MoBo/backlight). However there
 is a task, very important, no matter what happens: preserving
 information. Public pressure should be applied on H-P and Lotus
 to take precautions archiving each and every tape, blueprint,
 circuit diagram, program listing related to the 200LX develop-
 ment. Also this movement should aim to force HP release more
 formerly kept information regarding LX programming, e.g. to
 allow user-developed complete IrDA solution, deeper access to
 ROM routines.

As already emphasized by others on this list, developing more
 new programs on the LX, both for productivity and fun is very
 important. Probably a new open-OS palmtop will come some day,
 just keep faith. EVERYONE RELASE ALL FREEWARE SOURCE CODE!
 Efforts to sweep for legacy SW are equally important, can be
 done by non-coder LXer. I'll do my best with Palmtop Circuit.

Promoting the machine and powerful handheld use in general is
 is of special priority. A more highly organized webring with
 added new and interesting webpages is surely welcome. I would
 like to point to the job of getting the japanese LX users more
 involved in making their achievements available for the rest
 of the world. I have an idea for a new LX webpage, japanese
 related somewhat, pretty wild.  Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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For the person who was looking for a WinCe palmtop just found this post on the
newsgroup. Great price IMHO.From:

Good Luck!


>>>

Dennis Terribile <wr4i@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: FS: HP-360LX >$225
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:37:21 -0400

HP 360LX  WIN CE 2.0 handheld PC.
Docking station/serial cable/ ac adaptor/CD-ROM/manual/box. Excellant
condition - $225 + shipping
 please reply e-mail or call
 (804) 923-3550 after 6pm
 Thanks,
 Dennis
Ivy,Va
(This is being reposted because previous sale fell-through.)

HP-360 product info>
 http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/hp300lx/300lxhome.html

>>>





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> Web browsing was never a factor in their purchase decision.
> No, you are not the last one using HV to browse. I do too.

Uh... but what about the people for which it *was* a purchase decision? What
about them? Whether or not the horse is dead and HV will remain as it is until
the end of time, the question remains: What about those who bought WWW/LX for
the web browser and don't care about email (my e-mail is on NetAddress), ftp (I
download from the office), telnet (I don't have a shell account) most of the
time?. I know I did, and I'm not alone (there's you).

The Web site does specify "The Internet Solution in Your Pocket! Web Browser,
Email, and Newsgroups on the Palmtop!"

So as a user, what I need to know is: will web browsing ever be improved in
upcoming versions? From the insider (this lists) point of view, it looks like
the answer is a vibrant "no".

No hard feelings. I just wish there was an option -- a way out -- for web
browsing to be improved. Right now, I only see three possibilities:

- HV is rewritten by someone else (or a group) based on the original HV (with
your approval and support -- seem unlikely so far, and that's okay)
- HV is rewritten from scratch by someone else (or a group) (as long as they
know how to hook up with the rest of WWW/LX)
- A whole new WWW package is written by someone else, perhaps using LXTCP or
another PPP package.

Anyway we slice it, it's not easy. The alternative is HP software stagnating and
eventually dying because it won't be able to keep up with the internet tech
advances.

Thanks,

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You know, I'd even be happy to have a text-only interface -- like lynx, but
using WWW and all the rest of the neat stuff D&A created -- to access my
favourite websites.

Talking of lynx. Does anyone use it with some PPP package to browse the net? How
well does it work?

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: HV - once again...


<snip>
HV is for me even more important than POST, because there are
no alternatives. D&A has the monopoly for web browsing on the
palmtop. There is no competitor visible at the horizon.

Day by day, more and more valuable information is only
available through the www and hence web browsing. I'm not
talking of rainbow press sites, but stock information, hotel
reservation, online buy, auctions ...
<snip>

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: DBLSPACE

Stacker is much smaller and better.

>is there anyone who tried to use DoubleSpace
from DOS 6.2 on the palmtop?
>
yor pal al.........................................

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David,
The text is in the second/third screen in a text
field.  Don't even know where the descriptive
indicator is.  But I want to copy to/from a file to
this type of DB not just to add to info and records individually.
>
>What do you mean?  Import from another database, or something else?
yes...

TIA,
yor pal al.......................

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Subject:      False alarm

Hi all,
There is an ad on EBAy.com now selling the
LX dual adapter for $2.00 ?  or is it a mirage.
I've got oldtimer's disease, so what do I know.
If it's true, someone near Chicago or NYC pls
to pick me up one as I'm not registered and
can't without an ISP.

TIA,
yor pal al....................................

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I happen to have the Nokia 2190.  It is a PCS 1900 Mhz phone used in the US.

-Tim
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From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:08 PM
Subject: Omnigo 700LX and GSM 1800?


>Hi frinds,
>
>does anyone here know if it's possible to use a GSM 1800 phone
>(I'm E-Plus customer, E-Plus is a German GSM 1800 mobile phone provider)
>with the HP 700LX?
>
>I asked Thomas Rundel and he said, there was a phone made by Nokia
>called '2190' that was GSM 1800 compatible. But he couldn't say it for
>sure.
>
>TNX
>daniel
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
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>
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Hi All,

Just "upgraded" my copy of Newton's Telecom Dictionary to the
15th edition. Any interest here in taking the 14th ed. off my
hands for $(USD)15.00 + postage?

I'm in Texas (hour north of Austin) and am willing to send it
4th class (books), which shouldn't cost too much; or, if
you're rich, I'll send it 1st class ... your call.

Condition: Pretty darn good, one small tear on front cover,
small rumple on back, NO dog ears; "Raymond" written on top.

--tim

PS. It's ISBN is 1-57820-023-7, but Amazon.com doesn't seem
to carry it to compare....

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There is a shareware utility by Windspear Software Systems
called lf.com.

The command

     lf *.* "ren *f.*e *f.txt*n">x.bat

will give you a bat file called x.bat that looks like this:

ren file1.xxx file1.txt
ren file2.yyy file2.txt
etc.

Be careful - it's easy to mess up a lot of files this way.

You should be able to get lf.com wherever you download old
DOS shareware files.

Ron

> How do I convert a directory containing a bunch of different filetypes =
to
> lets say .TXT. (they are always different)
> It is ok to just add a extension like:
> hoho.hej  ->  hoho.hej.txt
>
> I would like to make a batch file that adds .TXT to all the files in
> the directory

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Message text written by INTERNET:hobchi@JUNO.COM
>Where can I find the docs to create this type
of DB from scratch (where the note field doesn't
take up screen space)?<

The Users Manual is a good place to start. The articles in PTP fill in th=
e
missing details. The content of the articles is contained in the note
fields of the Exemplary database. =


I must not have understood what you want to do. When you say "add" one
database to another, do you mean "merge"  or just add more notes to the
notes already there?

.ed.ÝPTP¨
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Subject:      Re: FW: 200LX
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<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>On 22 Jun 99, at 14:23, Steve Dowell wrote:




<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> I just got my lovely 32Mb double speed unit. I'm sticking with this

> puppy till it dies. Then I'll probably STILL look around for another

> used 200lx! : )    In a pinch I'd probably go to a Psion before going to a

> CE device.

>


</color>Hear! Hear! But <italic> </italic>I think I'll buy my third 200LX soon (I've a 5MB DS
and a 8MB DS already) instead of upgrading one of the other two to
64MB. I'm only waiting two things: the last price list from Tom
Rundel and the money needed to buy a new upgraded 200LX (well,
I sold a piece of real estate this week and hope the buyer will pay it
until the end of August, Tom, please, don't sell all the 200LX until
then 8>) )

 regards


Antonio



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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:04:45 -0500 (EST)

11h23m38s ago ...
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> ...
> HV is for me even more important than POST, because there are
> no alternatives. D&A has the monopoly for web browsing on the
> palmtop. There is no competitor visible at the horizon.
> ...

     BTW: What is the ststus of NetTamer these days? Uncle Dave was
doing a pretty good job of upgrading the program until he got married,
then it seemed his mind was on other things and the upgrades didn't
come out as quickly. As I remember last, (around rev 1.10) it was not
as slick as D&A's products, and had a definite DOS feel, but was
passable.

     Anyone out there using NT for browsing comment?...Just curious ;-)

I agree w/ Stefan, if D&A want to bring HV out of the freeware market
into a fee based product to justify development, I would pay. No need
for JAVA, etc..., but more realistic table rendering would be nice.

Cheers,

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:20:26 -0400, Al Kind wrote:

>     BTW: What is the ststus of NetTamer these days? Uncle Dave was
>doing a pretty good job of upgrading the program until he got married,
>then it seemed his mind was on other things and the upgrades didn't
>come out as quickly. As I remember last, (around rev 1.10) it was not
>as slick as D&A's products, and had a definite DOS feel, but was
>passable.
>
>     Anyone out there using NT for browsing comment?...Just curious ;-)

I spent a good while trying to get Rod Whitby's PNR package going with my
ISP, but I've had to finally admit defeat and have reverted to Nettamer
when out and about. Something in the LXPOP/WATTCP package just *doesn't*
like talking with my ISP's mail server and I get incredibly slow =
downloads
leading to eventual timeouts. Nettamer is extremely rapid at collecting
news/mail, but I will agree the interface isn't all it could be.=20

I'd love to get Rod's stuff working but I just don't know how to find out
what the problem is.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
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You would instantly move into "SUPER HERO" status in my books if you =
could send that to me!
That would be great.

>I used to work for a company that used 3151s.  We had an old DOS =
program
>that emulated the 3151 for our PCs.  I might be able to get a copy of =
it
>if you want it.  I vaguely remember trying it on my 200.

>Tom

>> There was a recent thread regarding terminal emulations - VT100 IIRC. =
This
>> is what I would like to do, if someone could advise on possible =
problems.
>> I use IBM 3151 terminals for email access at work. They use RS 422 =
(not
>> current)
>> I would like to purchase a RS 232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use =
my 200
>> to access email. I can handle the aspects of that part of the =
process, but


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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You would instantly move into "SUPER =
HERO" status=20
in my books if you could send that to me!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That would be great.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;I used to work for a company that =
used=20
3151s.&nbsp; We had an old DOS program<BR>&gt;that emulated the 3151 for =
our=20
PCs.&nbsp; I might be able to get a copy of it<BR>&gt;if you want =
it.&nbsp; I=20
vaguely remember trying it on my 200.<BR><BR>&gt;Tom<BR><BR>&gt;&gt; =
There was a=20
recent thread regarding terminal emulations - VT100 IIRC. =
This<BR>&gt;&gt; is=20
what I would like to do, if someone could advise on possible=20
problems.<BR>&gt;&gt; I use IBM 3151 terminals for email access at work. =
They=20
use RS 422 (not<BR>&gt;&gt; current)<BR>&gt;&gt; I would like to =
purchase a RS=20
232 to 422 adapter (available!) and use my 200<BR>&gt;&gt; to access =
email. I=20
can handle the aspects of that part of the process,=20
but<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Before I reply to the thread, may I please plead that folks pare down
their quoting of the previous messages which contain other previous
messages.  This brief two line reply (I grabbed onto this one but this
thread is not the only one like this - most have way too much quoting,
at least, for _me_.) had 80+ lines of unneeded quoting.

> Yes Bob I agree we need to regroup FAST!! ANY thought's from the rest
> of LX's ???


Now back to our regularly scheduled thread:

I think others with the Old Radio Shack 100's and other such units felt
the same way.  I'm not sure if there is a way to turn around HP, if they
have made this decision.  But just because _WE_ love our HP's and there
may even be a 1,000 or 2,000 of us, unless we can convince HP that many
OTHER THOUSANDS will buy them, it will not matter.  They can only sell
this core group so many HP200's!  We have a lot of gospel to sell and as
they say, we are preaching to the converted.

I'd suggest we all get our fill of backup units, at least.  And try
selling every member of our family and each of our friends on this
platform or it will be gone.  You can only fight the tide so long.  This
List's membership alone will not change HP's mind!!!

Just my humble and SAD opinion.

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IMO, the only way to continue the line is to increase sales.  What we need is a
spokes-person who can give the 200LX recognition.  First we devise a list of
famous people who are fairly technology savvy and who get lots of air time.
Pick one.  Then we try and get one of our vendors to send he/she a 32MB DS unit
with bundled pre-configured software (With a letter why).  He/she will be bound
to talk about it the way we do.  Then bang, sales are up.  :)

The list should be people who are on T.V. or Radio daily.  They also need to be
people who dont just read from scripts but often voice their own opinions.

It would be a good idea to check with their assist if he/she would likely use
the unit.

I think possable candidates are:
Oprah
Limbaugh
Dan Rather (or any Network Anchor)
Joan Lunden
Rosie O'Donnell  (shes big on promoting)

I could go on, but you get what I mean.


Don.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:30:01 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> =
wrote:

> I think possable candidates are:
> Oprah
> Limbaugh
> Dan Rather (or any Network Anchor)
> Joan Lunden
> Rosie O'Donnell  (shes big on promoting)

I think that this is a great idea, but the day that Rosie O'Donnell =
starts
advertising for the 200LX, I'll sell mine. As much as I depend on my LX, =
I
can not associate myself with radical, left wing, anti-gun people such as
Ms. O'Donnel. Long live the LX and my 2nd Admendment Rights!

Jeff

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I think that this is a great idea, but the day that Rosie O'Donnell
> starts advertising for the 200LX, I'll sell mine. As much as I depend
> on my LX, I can not associate myself with radical, left wing, anti-gun
> people such as Ms. O'Donnel. Long live the LX and my 2nd Admendment
> Rights!

<groan>  Oh, no.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:49:45 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> =
wrote:

> <groan>  Oh, no.

But I did put FLUFF in the subject line <g>!

Jeff

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> Well, from all your replies it looks like I'm looking in the right place,
> but there's no number there. If I have a knock-off, it's a damn good one as

Maybe your LX is real but left the factory thru the back door?

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:32:48 -0600
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Hal, good to see your response(s) here.

Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
could change or delay this decision?  It would be nice to hear from
someone at HP as to WHY?!  I can't believe that WinCE is selling all
that much!  It must be Micro$oft's megalomaniac conspiracy emerging
again! <g>  <end rant> (easy, there...  calm down...  breathe deeply and
evenly...  relax.... )

Otherwise, is someone out there plannning on buying a bunch of them and
reselling them later?  It's certainly a chance, but it would be nice to
be able to buy a new one later on, if need be, or, I'll save my pennies
and head for e-bay!

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:57:40 +0930
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Subject:      Re: TECH: suggestion (was Bug in new WWW.EXE)

Steven Lawson writes:
> Keep reporting yourself as supporting HTTP/1.0 but include the Host:
> header and everything should be ok.

Agreed.  Note that this option for upgading HTTP/1.0 browsers is
clearly stated in the HTTP/1.1 RFC (right at the end).  It is
RECOMMENDED by the IETF for *all* HTTP/1.0 browsers to send the Host:
header line.  They obviously think it's pretty important, and not
idiocy :-)

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:54:18 +0000
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> I
> can not associate myself with radical, left wing, anti-gun people such as
> Ms. O'Donnel. Long live the LX and my 2nd Admendment Rights!

Well, I fear that some of _us_ on this list may have to quit or risk
offending your right wing proclivities!  Long live FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Now may we left and right work to save the HP200!

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:53:55 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>

> Morning all;

  Morning Al...  :¬)

> Has anyone any experience with this geegaw?
> It is a ccd camera on the edge of a type II
> ATA flash adapter card and seems like it would
> work on the LX.

  Don't have any experience with it, but it looks interesting.  You can see
a CE300 camera, an IBM110 subnotebook, and a bunch of pictures taken with
the two of them at:
   http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3270/photo-6.html

  Please let me know if you find out it works or doesn't...

     ... JLS

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:12:54 -0500
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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:54:18 +0000, fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Well, I fear that some of _us_ on this list may have to quit or risk
> offending your right wing proclivities!  Long live FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

I'm not offended, I'm used to people wanting to take away more of my =
rights
<g>.

> Now may we left and right work to save the HP200!

Agreed!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:31:11 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Dream machine

>> Yes Bob I agree we need to regroup FAST!!
ANY thought's from the rest of LX's ???
>
Here's one...
I asked about this only last week thinking I may
get a better machine going without reinventing
the wheel or major renovation, like switching a
few chips, but got no good feedback.  I know
of serious computer electronic techies that may
able to re-assemble a great do-hickey but they
know nothing of the LX.  I thought if I could tell
them exactly what needs to be done, we'd at least
have an upgraded machine like the PC 110 with
power... alas......... I am disappointed and another
idea down the tubes.

all good things must come to an end,
nothing is forever.

yor pal al.


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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:45:23 -0500 (EST)

02h56m50s ago ...
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> ...
> I think that this is a great idea, but the day that Rosie O'Donnell
> starts
> advertising for the 200LX, I'll sell mine. As much as I depend on my =
LX,
> I
> can not associate myself with radical, left wing, anti-gun people such =
as
> Ms. O'Donnel. Long live the LX and my 2nd Admendment Rights!

Please don't start this debate here.

Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:56:36 EST
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Not so long..

> IMO, the only way to continue the line is to increase sales.  What we need is a
> spokes-person who can give the 200LX recognition.  First we devise a list of
> famous people who are fairly technology savvy and who get lots of air time.
> Pick one.  Then we try and get one of our vendors to send he/she a 32MB DS unit
> with bundled pre-configured software (With a letter why).  He/she will be bound
> to talk about it the way we do.  Then bang, sales are up.  :)
>
> The list should be people who are on T.V. or Radio daily.  They also need to be
> people who dont just read from scripts but often voice their own opinions.
>
> It would be a good idea to check with their assist if he/she would likely use
> the unit.
>
> I think possable candidates are:
> Oprah
> Limbaugh
> Dan Rather (or any Network Anchor)
> Joan Lunden
> Rosie O'Donnell  (shes big on promoting)
>
> I could go on, but you get what I mean.
>
>
> Don.

Actually we could cut out the middle man and just have Oprah BUY HP,
she can surely afford it. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:15:08 +0000
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Info at URL http://www.buymicro.com/rf/001/microtech_intl.htm (click
details) indicates the Cameramate requires Win 95 drivers.


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At 06:37 AM 6/23/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Now that you mention it, www.buy.com also has a Cameramate reader/writer
for CF,
>PCMCIA Type I/II/III for $46.95...
>
>     http://www.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10071339
>
>It connects to the parallel port also...anyone have one of these?
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>"Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> on 06/22/99 02:05:17 PM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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>      to "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
>Subject:  Re: FLASHcards on Laptop/Win98
>
>
>
>
>If you are interested in using compact flash (CF) cards (not PCMCIA cards),
>Sandisk makes a CF card reader/writer with either parallel (Win9x & Win NT)
>or USB (Win 9x) versions.
>
>See www.sandisk.com.
>
>It's available thru www.buycomp.com for less than $50
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If anyone has an HP200LX in excellent condition for sale, please contact me
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In a message dated 6/23/1999 03:40:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU writes:

>  All of us have
>   witnessed official HP statements, which said that 200LX will
>   remain in manufacture beyond 2000. I think these were binding.
>   However, pursuing legal procedures to force HP carry on the
>   DOS palmtop are the last resort. I'd rather prefer xxxxxx to
>   to hiring solicitors. Look at what we can do for good.

At least in the US, I cannot imagine a theory of law under which that would
be true.  If there is another jurisdiction where it is, perchance something
can be done ... but I would be mightily surprised.

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>
> I agree w/ Stefan, if D&A want to bring HV out of the freeware market
> into a fee based product to justify development, I would pay. No need
> for JAVA, etc..., but more realistic table rendering would be nice.

Al et al.,

I have been a beta tester for the WWW/LX suite since its inception and
other than always having the latest version (replete with bugs<g>) I
have no financial interest in D&A.

There seems to be an impression that money could in some way buy an
improved HV. Having watched Andreas squeeze all that he has out of the
program by creating hack on top of hack I understand what he means
when he says that he can not afford to improve HV. He means `afford'
not in a monetary sense but in a risk of breaking what exists. Ah then
start afresh and write a new HV from scratch I hear someone cry - well
the problem is that only so much code can go into a given space. The
decision to no longer improve HV was not by choice but by necessity due
to the limitations of the palmtop itself.

I feel for Avi and Andreas in the sense that they could have said "We
are working on it" and strung people out but they didn't they
publically stated that they had hit a brick wall and there would be no
further development. Having watched the internal development - I
believe them. Could another programmer do more - doubtful would be my
comment.

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:17:27 -0400
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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, you wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:30:01 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:
>
> > I think possable candidates are:
> > Oprah
> > Limbaugh
> > Dan Rather (or any Network Anchor)
> > Joan Lunden
> > Rosie O'Donnell  (shes big on promoting)
>
> I think that this is a great idea, but the day that Rosie O'Donnell starts
> advertising for the 200LX, I'll sell mine. As much as I depend on my LX, I
> can not associate myself with radical, left wing, anti-gun people such as
> Ms. O'Donnel. Long live the LX and my 2nd Admendment Rights!

Even without her radical left-wing stance (really, the only thing about her
politically that bugs me is the anti-firearms thing, but it's the only thing
that's come to my attention) I can't say that we could ever call this woman
technology-savvy.  Furthermore, as someone who decrys the horror of firearms,
and then goes on to make commercials for the largest commercial retailer of
weapons of any kind in the country, (K-Mart) she's a fairly obvious hippocrite.

back on topic, though, I hate to be a naysayer, but HP is under no legal
obligation to continue manufacturing the 200LX as someone in an earlier post
seemed to suggest, and because the technology is (sorry to say this guys; it's
flamebait, I know) outmoded by nearly a decade, it is unlikely to get picked up
by another firm.

        I would suggest that a plea be made to HP to possibly release the
design specs and information under a liscence not unlike the GPL.  it's
unlikely, but possible; Apple released parts of OS-X that way, and Netscape's
been doing Mozilla for years.  This would be fundamentally different,
obviously; it's hardware, not software.  And it still does not solve the
problem of manufacturing.. but it DOES solve the problem of immortality; if the
design specs are there for us, even ONE of us can keep them on a floppy
somewhere and pass them on, possibly to someone nice with a manufacturing plant.

>            ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
>            ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
>            ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
>            --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
>            ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----
>
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Subject:      Re" ÝFLUFF GUN GRABBER¨Re: 200LX discontinued soon,
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Jeff,

For what it's worth, I agree with you.  The first two amendments are
perhaps the most important.  I'm just not quite as vocal about it <g>.

Everyone;

As depressing as it may be, I fear that it may be too late to get HP to
continue production of the 200lx -- they seem to have made their
decision.  It seems that in recent years their products have gotten more
generic and less unique, more market oriented and less creative.  They
seem to have given in to pressure from Micro$oft (who else?) and they
are now trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator of the
consumer market.  I expect that Mssrs. Hewlett and Packard would be
*very* disappointed.

I also fear that preserving schematics, blueprints, etc., and getting
another company to produce the 200lx or 1000cx would also be futile
(although the attempt would be honorable).  A simple, albeit powerful,
DOS-based palmtop just doesn't have the appeal in the computer industry
that it used to.  Everyone seems to be looking for a new technology that
will do everything that the 200lx will, but without the memory
limitations of the x86 class chips.  IMO, so far, the PalmPilot has come
the closest to achieving that ideal.

So, what to do?   (1) BUY AS MANY AS YOU CAN NOW and store them away,
unless someone wants to buy one from you.  (2) Support those people and
companies who produce for the 200lx.  (3) Spread the 200lx 'gospel'.
(4) Keep the 'faith'.

Well, that's my opinion and my two cents worth.  Thanks for listening.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Gary Spiers wrote:

> There seems to be an impression that money could in some way buy an
> improved HV. Having watched Andreas squeeze all that he has out of the
> program by creating hack on top of hack I understand what he means
> when he says that he can not afford to improve HV. He means `afford'
> not in a monetary sense but in a risk of breaking what exists. Ah then
> start afresh and write a new HV from scratch I hear someone cry - well
> the problem is that only so much code can go into a given space. The
> decision to no longer improve HV was not by choice but by necessity due
> to the limitations of the palmtop itself.

I disagree completely, as your argument destroys itself logically.  If HV
is, as you say, a delicately balanced group of kludges, that is a natural
indication of extremely poor internal efficiency.  Hence rewriting from
scratch in an organized, efficient manner would result in smaller code size
and more efficient (and probably faster) operation.  The smaller code size
will naturally lend itself to the addition of more features, and the
rewriting would also make it easier to implement EMS support (in turn,
providing even more room for features.)

> I feel for Avi and Andreas in the sense that they could have said "We
> are working on it" and strung people out but they didn't they
> publically stated that they had hit a brick wall and there would be no
> further development. Having watched the internal development - I
> believe them. Could another programmer do more - doubtful would be my
> comment.

*ahem* I don't think so.  Also, while honesty in business is good, this
"brick wall" is artificial.  It is the result of, for whatever reason,
refusing to realize when a rewrite is needed.  When I write programs, my
first step is to get a working prototype, however kludged it may be.  Once I
have that prototype, I sit down and logically map out how the program should
be written for best efficiency.  Then I scrap the prototype and write the
release version.  In my view, HV is still a prototype until it is completely
rewritten inside and out.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:34:53 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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I don't think we necessarily need to lose our heads about this.  The
200lx is a great device but I think the horizon is brighter than many
seem to feel.

I will concede that I don't see any off-the-shelf replacement
forth-coming.  Still there are a lot of interesting things out there.
The New York Times ran an article a few months ago about the worlds
smallest webserver.  It was a 486 the size of a matchbox running Linux.
All the components used were ordered off the Internet at very reasonable
prices.  I stumbled into a Digital (now Compaq) page put up by some
in-house hackers who'd made a 486 running Linux fit to a unit the size of
a deck of cards.  It had a small LCD display, chorded button interface
and ran off AAAs.  Qualcomm, Motorola, and Nokia keep showing up with
very interesting portable computers piggybacking with their phones.

It is hard to replace something like the 200lx for practical and (dare I
say) sentimental reasons.  I figure my unit will last for another three
years.  I'm also 100% positive that something far and away more amazing
will be created in that time.  In fact, this just might drive me to order
some stuff and kludge something myself; I like the thought of a
pager-sized Linux box.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - Sorry I don't have the URLs for the devices I mentioned.  I'm
searching for them but you may find them the same way I did - AltaVista
;-).

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Date:         Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:48:31 -0700
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The battery does not seem to hold any current. Comes with
the parallel cable.
Asking $80 + shipping + COD (if you want). Includes 1.8 packs of
Pentax paper and the AC adapter + case. No damaged parts.

Thank you,

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It's interesting how quickly we can get off topic.


Don.


>I think that this is a great idea, but the day that Rosie O'Donnell starts
>advertising for the 200LX, I'll sell mine. As much as I depend on my LX, I
>can not associate myself with radical, left wing, anti-gun people such as
>Ms. O'Donnel. Long live the LX and my 2nd Admendment Rights!

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Al Kind wrote:
> I agree w/ Stefan, if D&A want to bring HV out of the freeware market
> into a fee based product to justify development, I would pay. No need
> for JAVA, etc..., but more realistic table rendering would be nice.

Believe me: If I were ABLE to improve HV, I would do it. Freeware or
not. But unless I wrote that complete thing from scratch and *depend*
on EMS, there is simply no way to do any major improvements. Bug fixes
and minor changes would be possible (even though I try to resist
because as the code is now, each fix causes two more bugs).

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Hi friends,

> <<Didn't I just read an article in a fairly recent PTP that HP did NOT
> intend to discontinue the 200LX because it was still selling well, etc?>>
>
> Can't always trust what you read ):   Actually, until about 2 months ago,
> indications were that HP would continue selling them for a long time.

What does 'discontinue' mean? No more _selling_ them or no more
_producing_ them?

AFAIK HP 'recycles' used models the same way Thaddeus do. So they will
be able to sell 200LXs (used, but with new warranty and totally checked
and repaired) long after they stopped to produce them.

Yesterday I got a new machine, because I complained about 'ROM software
failures' (the Germay models all seem to have this failure in
appointment book, that, when you add a few appointments everytime the
field 'Wiederholung' (=iteration?) becomes a little bit more unreadable
(parts of the text disappear... strange!).
Additionally, my machine got the 'hinge crack'.

My new 200LX has a serial number SG835..., so it seems to be a
quite new model,
but when I called HP they told me that the machines people get when
their old ones are broken are those used, but 'like new' ones.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Al

>
> Some specs: 320X240 pixels.
> Selectable focal length f2.8 - f8.
> DOS SW.  Rotatable head 180 d.

Sounds nice.
Do you have more specs? (color/sw, cost, where to buy, ....)

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

Andreas Garzotto wrote:
> Steven Lawson wrote:
> > > The new WWW/LX supports HTTP 1.1 (the older versions HTTP 1.0). It was
> >
> > Andreas,
> >
> > The Host: header is *very* important, but make sure that is all you added
> > and that you aren't reporting an HTTP/1.1 browser.
>
> Why didn't you tell that before we released the new version of WWW.EXE?
> :-)
>
> All of your analysis is 100% correct, including the hex characters. I
> came to the same conclusions and replaced 1.1 by 1.0. That virtual
> host stuff indeed seems to work without declaring 1.1.
>Ý...¨

_This_ is the right way!
I really appreciate that you guys who make all this great software work
_together_ and not _agaist_ each other! That makes me really willing to
spend money for your software.

Other than MS or other big companies. I hate these ways of business
policy they practice, so I'm not willing to give them my money for
their (bad) software!

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

> The serial number may have been on a sticker that has come off.  I had a
> 100lx that went in for repair to hp.  When I got it back the serial number
> was on a sticker.  After time the sticker came off and there was no serial
> number under the sticker.  This may be the reason you do not have a serial
> number.

My new machine (old one was defect, my warranty allows an instant
exchange of the machine: I call HP, the next day a guy comes to me,
gives me a new machine and takes my old one away) also has such a
sticker with the serial number of the old one.
But under the sticker there is the number of the new one: SG835......

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:44:43 +0200
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>PS - Sorry I don't have the URLs for the devices I mentioned.  I'm
>searching for them but you may find them the same way I did - AltaVista


Search for Itsy, they call it so... :-)

I like the ibutton thingy too, www.ibutton.com. Think about it, just your
data on the ring, everywhere is a keyboard and screen. Just walk up to a
booth, push your ring against a pad and one has complete access to all one's
data. :-)

br

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:12:11 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> Why didn't you tell that before we released the new version of WWW.EXE? =
:-)

Because D&A didn't tell us that the new WWW.EXE supports HTTP 1.1
I would like to see more 'what's new' information than what is available =
under
D&A's homepage. The virtual host capability is not mentioned at all!
I must say: This is a real improvement for all HV users and if D&A =
continues to
implement such improvements into WWW.EXE there is no need for a new HV =
;-)

On another subject: I would like to see more information about the new
features in the ÝWWW¨ section of POST.CFG. Adding a few characters there =
seems
to melt down my WWW.CFG to almost 0 bytes! GREAT IMPROVEMENT worth more =
than
just a line on D&A's homepage. Sould also be mentioned in POSTHELP.I

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:27:32 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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> >PS - Sorry I don't have the URLs for the devices I mentioned.  I'm
> >searching for them but you may find them the same way I did - AltaVista
>
>
> Search for Itsy, they call it so... :-)

For all german users: There is a small article (plus a picture)
about "Itsy" in the current issue of "Der Spiegel". They say it
even runs "Doom". That would be an argument to replace the hp200
;).

Reinhard

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I haven't been able to access www.palmtop.net <http://www.palmtop.net>
this morning. Is it down?

Steve

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The bottom line is: this was a business decision on the part of HP. No
outside influence is going to change it. They don't have to be right, they
will absorb any losses created by the decision to stop production.

Sorry, if I sound cynical. I've been dealing with HP as a reseller for many
years and have learned that they seldom go back on the direction that has
been chosen.

I'm still selling 200LX machines and I will until I can no longer get them.

All things designed and produced by "man" will come to an end. The LX is not
as perpetual as the wheel.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:33 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 200LX
>
>
> Hal, good to see your response(s) here.
>
> Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
> could change or delay this decision?  It would be nice to hear from
> someone at HP as to WHY?!  I can't believe that WinCE is selling all
> that much!  It must be Micro$oft's megalomaniac conspiracy emerging
> again! <g>  <end rant> (easy, there...  calm down...  breathe deeply and
> evenly...  relax.... )
>
> Otherwise, is someone out there plannning on buying a bunch of them and
> reselling them later?  It's certainly a chance, but it would be nice to
> be able to buy a new one later on, if need be, or, I'll save my pennies
> and head for e-bay!
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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:58:29 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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I am at PCEXPO and had a talk with HP people.  (I have been talking with
various people at HP about the 200LX and discontinuation for some months.)

I don't know for sure but based on my conversation with the HP person and
others in Singapore, my best guess is that the final decision about the
200LX has not been made.

Originally, when I saw the notes on this forum, about doing something, I
didn't give them much possibility.  However, I do now think there is a small
bit of hope.  It isn't Oprah that will give the 200LX credibility, it is
large HP customers. Anybody here that represents a large corporate or
government entity, should contact there sales rep or go as high as you can
within the HP hierachy and express your displeasure.  You don't even have to
be a big purchaser of 200LX's, just a big HP client.  I think whether the
200LX is continued may even go higher than the division that makes 200LX,
although that division will make the final decision.

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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Writer's Toolkit.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Hal,
Do you think it would be beneficial if everyone on this list were to
send an email (or snail mail) to someone at HP? Do you have a suggestion
of who at HP would be a good person to send our comments to?

Thanks,
Steve



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        From:   Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
        Sent:   Thursday, June 24, 1999 5:58 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Long..
        <snip>
        Anybody here that represents a large corporate or
        government entity, should contact there sales rep or go as high
as you can
        within the HP hierachy and express your displeasure.  You don't
even have to
        be a big purchaser of 200LX's, just a big HP client.  I think
whether the
        200LX is continued may even go higher than the division that
makes 200LX,
        although that division will make the final decision.

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon

I mentioned a few "micro-pc" projects in an earlier post that gave me
confidence I'd be able to find a replacement for the HP200lx.  For me, a
replacement must do three things, 1) be a real computer capable of
running applications and of a design that encourages hacking by creative
programmers, 2) be very small, and 3) be frugal with its power
consumption.  The following links take you to sites where people are
working on such devices.

My personal favorite (I'd plunk money down today for one of these!) can
be found at
http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/talk-iswc98/sld001.htm.  This
device runs Linux and is smaller than a PalmPilot.  Be sure to check out
the whole slide show.

Try http://wearables.stanford.edu for a discussion of the "World's
Smallest Operational Web Server".  There is also a page about a PC that
measures in at four cubic inches but includes a 486, VGA, ethernet, and a
340Meg IBM microdrive.  The page also has instructions for rolling your
own.

For real geek-wear, go to
http://lcs.www.media.mit.edu/projects/wearables/ for discussions of
various wearable designs including FAQs on designing your own and fairly
comprehensive links to commercial sources for the components necessary to
make your own HP200lx replacement.

For those of you inclined to chasing snapping turtles, go to
http://www.aims.gov.au/pages/wetpc/wetpc.html to see a wearable designed
for divers.  I've always thought the 200lx should have a "ruggedized"
version and this shows it would be possible.

I don't fully understand what this is or why it is but it seems to hold
potential as another type of "wearable" PC.  Of particular interest is
the nameplate that appears on the device (go to the "view of packaged
badge" link or try
http://www.it.kth.se/edu/gru/Fingerinfo/telesys.finger/Mobile.VT98/HP-comdex.gif).
 Maybe HP has something up their sleeve yet . . . .

Finally, the iButton at http://www.ibutton.com.  This thing uses a PC as
an interface but the iButton and the serial interface combined are tiny
enough you could make use of any PC you found.  I've got the newer 135K
version on order (set me back a whopping $50!) and would love to hear
from anyone whose gotten it to do interesting things.

Even with the demise of the HP200lx (still several years away), the
future's so bright, you've got to wear shades (with heads-up display
connected to a StrongARM processor running Linux with voice recognition).

Larry Zimmerman


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Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:57:02 -0500 (EST)

Andreas & All:

04h37m33s ago ...
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Al Kind wrote:
> > I agree w/ Stefan, if D&A want to bring HV out of the freeware market
> > into a fee based product to justify development, I would pay. No need
> > for JAVA, etc..., but more realistic table rendering would be nice.
>
> Believe me: If I were ABLE to improve HV, I would do it. Freeware or
> not. But unless I wrote that complete thing from scratch and *depend*
> on EMS, there is simply no way to do any major improvements. Bug fixes
> and minor changes would be possible (even though I try to resist
> because as the code is now, each fix causes two more bugs).

     I realize the code in the current HV is tight, and a delicate
balance exists to keep the bugs out. My point was that Avi implied that
there was more interest in the other clients than HV, and that any HV
development MAY have been stifled due to that. With the relative
abundance of 8,32,64,...?MB machines out there, all capable of EMS
support, perhaps some thought could be given to a more feature rich HV.
I wish I had the resources to commission such a project, but my support
of programmers is pretty much limited to license fees, and some
donation of spare hardware to those who can use it ;-).

     Am I truly in the minority on this? Or if we allow Andreas a few
kB of EMS memory, and perhaps a financial incentive, would there be
others who would mind merit in the project? Call is "HV+" or "HVc" (HV
commercial).

IF you had the time for such a project...
¬¬

IF you had EMS to use, what features could be considered?
¬¬

Cheers,

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Hi Folks,

  Look at all the positives.  This lowly DOS machine has been
popular and has sold and will continue to be available thru
November.  There will still be a great support group for the
beast.  We have some solid vendors providing parts, software,
and accessories.  Plus, maybe HP will have a closeout sale
at great prices and we can all afford and pick up spares!!!!

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:43:36 -0400, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
wrote:

> abundance of 8,32,64,...?MB machines out there, all capable of EMS
> support, perhaps some thought could be given to a more feature rich HV.

What about supporting sys|x, which is being developed from scratch? If
Andreas says the code can6t be changed, then we must go a different =
route,
right?

Jeff

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We will probably have to stock up and that's that. I hope there are some
LX200s when my tax refund comes around next year, I'll probably buy two.

Here are a few examples of what we're are talking about. Other readers can add
to the list (I hope not really)

    TRS 100 (well, would we really want one today? I think not, was neat for
many years)
    Ford Bronco (original) - kind of a neat machine, probably easy to work on
(?) -- bring it back!
    Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser (one of the toughest vehicles around for a
reasonable price)
    Collins S-Line, nostalga, but still a good solid item
    All those old things we collect -- some should still be produced, but
$$$$$$$$$$$$ talks louder

Manufactures move on -- got to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and their new monuments to
out do the competitor!

Now I'm getting into meddling and I'll try to tread lightly. If over half the
country votes for the wrong man in an election, is that for the good of the
people? Half of the voters made a good decision and half made a bad decision
(I won't go into details which is the good and which is the bad -- I'm just
stating what happens). Is that the way it needs to be? No, like the Gospel,
the Truth needs to be made known, appeals need to be made until there is no
turning point. Manufactures are more guided by making good $ rather than good
decisions, otherwise we would see auto manufactures refining models like the
Volkswagen. I'm not saying we shouldn't improve technology, we should, but
along the way some good products get dropped.

Perhaps I should labelled the subject of this note FLUFF. How about an HPLX
restoration club. Will the LX be a collector's item, how about an LX bluebook?
Which are the desireable serial numbers? Just kidding -- this year.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

> > of LX's ???
>
> Now back to our regularly scheduled thread:
>
> I think others with the Old Radio Shack 100's and other such units felt
> the same way.  I'm not sure if there is a way to turn around HP, if they
> have made this decision.  But just because _WE_ love our HP's and there
> may even be a 1,000 or 2,000 of us, unless we can convince HP that many
> OTHER THOUSANDS will buy them, it will not matter.  They can only sell
> this core group so many HP200's!  We have a lot of gospel to sell and as
> they say, we are preaching to the converted.
>
> I'd suggest we all get our fill of backup units, at least.  And try
> selling every member of our family and each of our friends on this
> platform or it will be gone.  You can only fight the tide so long.  This
> List's membership alone will not change HP's mind!!!
>
> Just my humble and SAD opinion.
>
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In an attempt to set-up WWW/LX to work with an ethernet connection, I
visited the D&A web site and found a brief explanation and a note telling =
me
to look at the wwwdoc.txt. Since I had deleted this file from my LX, I
downloaded the latest archive (I actually did this twice to make sure I
wasn't losing my mind <g>) and the latest archive has old docs in it that
don't have any info about ethernet (pre-ethernet capable WWW/LX). Avi, =
you
may want to take a peek at it. Also, if anyone on the list is using =
WWW/LX
via a ethernet connection, could you please email me your www.cfg file so =
I
can take a look at it. I'm curious to see how different people have set =
it
up.

Jeff

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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I don't know for sure but based on my conversation with the HP person and
> others in Singapore, my best guess is that the final decision about the
> 200LX has not been made.

Isn't HP itself a huge user of the 200LX or is this no longer the case?  DOS
is still a huge platform for embedded systems.  I was hoping with the advent
of the higher memory upgrades that the 200LX (or 1000CX) would have been
seen as a viable option in this area.

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>     Am I truly in the minority on this? Or if we allow Andreas a few
>kB of EMS memory, and perhaps a financial incentive, would there be
>others who would mind merit in the project? Call is "HV+" or "HVc" (HV
>commercial).



How about a survey? Yes, no, don't care, results on the SUPER site?

Are all WWW/LX users on the mailing list? What's the percentage?

br

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Hi Jeff,

>What about supporting sys|x, which is being developed from scratch? If


What is 'sys|x'? Am I missing out on anything? :-)

br

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:04:24 -0600, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> =
wrote:

>     TRS 100 (well, would we really want one today? I think not, was =
neat for
> many years)

Yup! I still use one of a friend owns (I wish I still had mine) and use =
it
infrequently as both a computer and a terminal for packet radio.

> Perhaps I should labelled the subject of this note FLUFF. How about an =
HPLX
> restoration club. Will the LX be a collector's item, how about an LX =
bluebook?
> Which are the desireable serial numbers? Just kidding -- this year.

Geesh.... and I get flamed over a gun comment?!? Is my LX really an
antiquity now?!? We should all pack up our LX's and head for the Antiques
Road Show, which was in Birmingham a week or so ago <g>.

Jeff

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:15:51 +0200, Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO> wrote:

> What is 'sys|x'? Am I missing out on anything? :-)

I'll defer this question to Mr. Ian Butler <g>.

Jeff

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, you wrote:
> I don't think we necessarily need to lose our heads about this.  The
> 200lx is a great device but I think the horizon is brighter than many
> seem to feel.

I'll definitely agree here.

> I will concede that I don't see any off-the-shelf replacement
> forth-coming.  Still there are a lot of interesting things out there.
> The New York Times ran an article a few months ago about the worlds
> smallest webserver.  It was a 486 the size of a matchbox running Linux.
> All the components used were ordered off the Internet at very reasonable
> prices.  I stumbled into a Digital (now Compaq) page put up by some
> in-house hackers who'd made a 486 running Linux fit to a unit the size of
> a deck of cards.  It had a small LCD display, chorded button interface
> and ran off AAAs.  Qualcomm, Motorola, and Nokia keep showing up with
> very interesting portable computers piggybacking with their phones.

The little wonder you refer to is called the 'Itsy'.  IIRC the design specs are
free to anyone who'd like them, so you can go ahead and build oe in the
basement, etc.  It even has nifty tilt sensors to use as a pointing device...

  *snip!*

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  I can make a hat of it for you."
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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:36:42 -0400
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Subject:      Access to AOL email will cease to work for the HP200LX on June
              31st  :-(

Hi All,

I got this bad news this morning and thought that I should pass it on to
the group. AOL's email support for the HP200LX's PCAO DOS access software
(freeware available for download at SUPER) is suddenly being dropped, as
well. :-(

I got the following reply to a post on AOL in the PDA section message
board:

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

---

Subject: Re: Can PCAO 1.6 still access AOL?
Date: Thu, 24 June 1999 07:20 AM EDT
From: PDA Susan

Message-id: <19990624072012.01115.00004831@ng-fi1.aol.com>

<< Can PCAO 1.6 still access AOL? >>

You must use SprintNet numbers to access AOL with PCAO. Unfortunately,
access via SprintNet will end on June 30th so there is little point in
setting PCAO up on your HP. Sorry to give you that bad news.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:36:42 -0400, John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.C=
OM> wrote:

> You must use SprintNet numbers to access AOL with PCAO. Unfortunately,
> access via SprintNet will end on June 30th so there is little point in
> setting PCAO up on your HP. Sorry to give you that bad news.

They have been saying that about SprintNet numbers for the past couple of
years.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:21:02 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      StarTAC and 200lx

Has anyone used the StarTAC on digital service with the 200lx?

What modem(s) do you use?  How reliable/fast are connects as compared to
analog?  Any online resources?

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:31:10 -0700
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On 22 Jun 1999 Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM> wrote:

> I'm looking for an *open-source* freeware editor to use on the  palmtop.

I believe I used at one point a very strong editor called CHI (pronounced as
in the greek letter). It had the full source with the program. This goes back
two years or more so my meory is rather hazy. I was impressed enough to
remember the name.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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On 22 Jun 1999, Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU> wrote:

> I had the luck to try the 200LX over the weekend. Thanks to  Skiboy.  Also,
> I read some back issues of the Palmtop Paper.

You have posted so much in the past about the 200LX I thought you had one.
What a surprise! Hope you liked it enough to get one and really start using it
and making comments out of your experience.

> The rod connecting two halves of the shell (LCD part, CPU+kbd  part)
> together, is empty on the inside: seems to be the right size  and  diameter

Not so. It contains the connector for the LCD. This is a very specialized
design. It is done to minimize the bending of this strip of wires. If you put
anything inside, you will constrict it and cause it either bend too much and
eventually break, or simply chafe it and expose the wires. This is a bad idea,
but not a bad start for someone who does not even have a machine :-) ...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Jan,

> So I had kind of given up on this, but now I see Avi is  apparenly able to
> do this. Does anybody know the specifics about the Nikon JPEG  format that
> will enable a JPEG to be viewed on the camera?

Just in case there is a misunderstanding: I do not use the Nikon for the
purpose of loading images. I use the Canon A5 Zoom. I saw in the literature
for Nikon that you can create slide shows, but no mention about the images
bmust be created by the camera.

In my case, I displayed with Power Point a presentation on my Notebook,
captured the screen, turned it into a JPEG, and uploaded it into ULEAD. But I
noticed I can just copy them into the compact flash directly.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:10:19 -0500, Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> =
wrote:

ma> Isn't HP itself a huge user of the 200LX or is this no longer the =
case?

No, the "recommended" palmtop was the 360 last time I looked. I got a
replacement last year and had to go through a round of "are you sure you
want the 200lx?" questions. Interesting in light of the fact that most =
who
had the choice picked the 200lx, I know of some engineers who traded =
their
360s in for 200s after they tried them out for awhile. You'd think that
_someone_ would have taken note but....NOOOOOO.

P

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FYI, I just uploaded 66 new icons to the SUPER Icon Server.

The new function to Show Recent Additions works fine (thanks, Paul!) although it
doesn't seem to sort alphabetically when I choose Show All, as I would have
expected.

Also, for you BeOS fans and NeXT fans, I included a half-dozen basic icons for
each system which, by the way, look great in X-Finder.

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Subject:      Re: Database

Hi Ed;
>The Note field is on the second screen.
You can add to it with the F3 key.

Where is the heading, title, indicator box
of this NOTE field?

I can copy a file into this file, all fields except
the text field.  Do I have to copy each record
text field individually?

yor pal al..............................


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In a message dated 6/24/1999 09:27:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
zimm4@JUNO.COM writes:

> For those of you inclined to chasing snapping turtles, go to
>  http://www.aims.gov.au/pages/wetpc/wetpc.html to see a wearable designed
>  for divers.
Mack & Jeff don't seem to need underwater gear to find the snappers!

Lynn

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Bob Meyer wrote:

> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY

Holy crap.  And I thought I was the only 200LX user in Wyoming... <g>

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
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Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote on 23 Jun 1999:

> While I do admit to rebooting my LX occassionally, It is  with far more
> frequency that I boot my W95 desktop...and it takes 5x  longer (no
> exaggeration) to get back to work!

Ok, Al, are you ( or anyone else!) willing to collect a tally of people here
who have WWW/LX Plus and think that a browser on the Palmtop is terrific dea,
vs. those who think that it is better to get other tools in place.

I think it would be important that people identify themselves by name and
email address, or their voice is useless. I don't want to see the list, so I
am accused of collecting a mailinsg list :) - but it would be nice to know if
the demographics of this list is different from my customer base.

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Stefan,

> I didn't want you to release the HV source code. All I wish
> is, I could use HV  - as it is - with every new release of
> WWW.EXE, because I also want to upgrade to new WWW, POST, NEWS,
> FTP ...

After the flurry of requests to release the code, I believe it was a
fair interpretation of the words "politics" in the context you put it
in, i.e. fix it, don't play politics.

> HV is for me even more important than POST, because there are no
> alternatives. D&A has the monopoly for web browsing on the palmtop.
> There is no competitor visible at the horizon.

I think that is true for you and a few more. But the great majority of
people I talk to tell me they don't even install HV, they just want
email in their pocket!

As to competition, I am hoping someone will rise and say I want to take
a whack at it! Look, I won't commit to this before discussions and talks
with my partner, but I think we would be able to agree with a
prospective developer who wants to make another browser. We will release
the API to that person, provided that that browser remains freeware like
HV is. (I have to consult with Andreas on this point, but from all the
considerations and many-many - maybe hundreds! of emails and talks with
him, I think we can go for that!) Look, it is not gonna hurt anyone,
just make it better for the community.

i was delighted when competition to Post/LX came out (GP), because it
made the palmtop a legitimate platform for email, with 3 email programs.
Soon LXTCP, Pegasus, and now ccLXTPC (Proper name?) came out. This tells
me that this platform is legitimate! It is real. You  can do full-blown
stuff on it! It helped us, it undoubtedly helped GP and NetTamer. I
suspect the freeware presence made this market even more hot and
inviting.

So, no I am not against another browser, on the contrary - We will help
that author out!

> Day by day, more and more valuable information is only available
> through the www and hence web browsing. I'm not talking of rainbow
> press sites, but stock information, hotel reservation, online buy,
> auctions ...

Tell me! I almost live on the internet and the Web. But HV is not going
to be the program where all the excitement will happen! And I encourage,
and ask, and promise to help anyone who wants to make another browser.

Heck, even if they want to make money on it, I'll help too! Ok?

But not HV. HV will not be made public, and let's make this the last
time we ever say this. I am serious.

> It is hard for me to understand, why D&A decided to put it's force into
> a market segment (email, news, network) where it  has to compete with
> freeware/shareware products, instead of comfortably laying back on
> their monopoly, coming up with a browser product and leaving behind the
> HV freeware.

Because when my customers tell me to put effort where they want it, I
listen to the customers. Amybe you don't think it is important, but I
depend on customers buying the product :-) ...

And amazingly enough: Many many customers, problably 30-40% tell me they
already have NetTamer or GP or LXTCP, and they buy the "other" package
too, ours! I do the same with important software - I buy several, and
settle on one.

> I'm willing to pay another $80 for a web browser which continues to
> work with the *BASIC* new html stuff, not the fancy glitter.

I'll take this to Andreas! :) Maybe he is willing to put 2000 hours into
redoing HV for $80.00. (may be a raise for him! :) ...)

> Every time I have to start my desktop for web browsing, I have to keep
> the windows closed, because otherwise I'm tempted to through it out of
> the window: 1 minute to boot, 1 minute to click through windows, 2
> minutes until IE connects and starts, and x minutes until something is
> visible on the screen.

ROFL!!! I did three things to fight that urge: 1. I live on the first
floor, so breakage may not be terminal, so not satisfying! :)  (2) I
have spent much more money than I could afford on the computer, so my
cheap nature tends to hold me back! (3) I have a pad that hold the
computer down, attached to the desk.

> Even if I use the same ISP on a 486 at 56kBaud, HV+WWW is faster on the
> palmtop at 14kBaud in displaying web pages. WWW+HV must have a built in

You are exaggerating! if not, dump that ISP! :)

> "right of way" on the internet. That's my only explanation why it is so
> fast and I would love to be able to use it in the years to come.

Now you understand why HV will not be released publicly! We have a
secret in there that we want to sell to Microsh*t (actually _MACRO_ is
more appropriate!) for $60bn., buy a little country somewhere and retire
as kings of our respective kingdoms. :)

(I hope no one believes this last paragraph!)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:54:34 EDT, "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>=
 wrote:

> Mack & Jeff don't seem to need underwater gear to find the snappers!

You would be absolutely amazed at some of the things we have found <g>!

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:33:43 -0700, Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> Holy crap.  And I thought I was the only 200LX user in Wyoming... <g>

Uh oh...... run, there's two of 'em <g>!

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:51:36 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Ok, Al, are you ( or anyone else!)

Hmmm... maybe if we asked David real nice and possibly when we were done,
said "Thank you", he might be able to setup a newsgroup on hplx.net where =
we
could enter our names and email addresses or maybe a CGI script on =
hplx.net
to get the info and store it where spammers couldn't get at it. Anyways,
whoever ends up collecting the info, here's mine:

Jeff Johns jeffj@scott.net

Long live the LX!

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Hmmm... maybe if we asked David real nice and possibly when we were
> done, said "Thank you", he might be able to setup a newsgroup on
> hplx.net where we could enter our names and email addresses or maybe a
> CGI script on hplx.net to get the info and store it where spammers
> couldn't get at it. Anyways, whoever ends up collecting the info,
> here's mine:

Don't suggest that.  Avi hasn't had very good luck with the newsgroups
recently. <g>

However, it would be simple for me, Mitch, or even Al himself to put up a
web form for it...

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Does anyone have a copy of the latest wwwdoc.txt file that has the =
ethernet
info and preonline info that they could email me? It's not the one in the
latest archive, I think it's the one before that.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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> >     Am I truly in the minority on this? Or if we allow Andreas a few
> >kB of EMS memory, and perhaps a financial incentive, would there be
> >others who would mind merit in the project? Call is "HV+" or "HVc" (HV
> >commercial).
>
> How about a survey? Yes, no, don't care, results on the SUPER site?

HV survey?  I don't care because I don't use it.  I erased all
its files to free space on my 4M 200LX.  Even the worst
graphical desktop browser is better than one limited to b/w cga
and a 80186 cpu.

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> Holy crap.  And I thought I was the only 200LX user in Wyoming... <g>

Well, I was using mine there last week on a visit to Grand Teton
National Park and vicinity!

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> HV survey?  I don't care because I don't use it.  I erased all its
> files to free space on my 4M 200LX.  Even the worst graphical desktop
> browser is better than one limited to b/w cga and a 80186 cpu.

Not when A) you don't have a desktop available, or B) you don't want
anybody to see what kind of things you're browsing.  <g>

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> > Bob Meyer
> > bmeyer@union-tel.com
> > Elk Mountain WY
>
> Holy crap.  And I thought I was the only 200LX user in Wyoming... <g>
> ian Butler / ian@hplx.net

Now one of you will have move; there's only enough room for one...

Cheers... Russ       (SJ,CA but wish I was in WY too)

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Hal (and all),

I support Steve Dowell's suggestion of sending e-mails, but I also think this
situation requires an open letter to HP "signed" by as many users on this
list (or over in  HPHAND) as are willing to lend their names, and published
on one of the major support websites.  This is an effective way of letting
those large HP customers know what to expect from that company.

HP may turn its back on a sizable installed user base, and on millions of DOS
users around the world who may not have been adequately exposed to the
palmtop platform due to poor promotion by HP.  The former includes many who
have made substantial investments (both money and time) in software and
peripherals for this device.  How then can they ask their customers to
support a new product such as Capshare?  And how long should we trust that
WinCE will last?  Technically, there's no excuse for HP leaving its DOS users
in a lurch.  Instead of having to purchase a spare 200LX, I would have much
preferred to purchase a meaningful upgrade, but now HP threatens to deprive
me of that choice in order to protect my investment for as long as possible.
I find this unacceptable.  I also think it's bad business.

Although I feel hypocritical about it -- because the 200LX is hardly the only
HP product I own -- if they in fact intend the demise of this platform then I
will never patronize them again.  Fortunately there are other high quality
desktop computers, printers, scanners, CD-ROM drives, PDAs, etc., etc.,
available from other manufacturers in the marketplace at competitive prices.
I don't have to funnel money into an outfit that disrespects both its
customers and aftermarket vendors, notably those who helped "spread the
gospel" when it seemed to matter to Corvallis..

In the meantime, I think all of  us on this list should congratulate
ourselves on being among those who recognized and took advantage of a real
value, and who attained the kind of computing power, flexibility, and freedom
that we never could until the LXs came along.  Because I am convinced that
empowerment of the individual is no longer a guiding value in the computer
world, I seriously doubt whether there'll be another group like this during
the next five-to-ten years.

-roger-

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Kinda like Davy Crockett and his sidekick composing an army, pretty
formidable!

Jeff Johns wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:33:43 -0700, Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> wrote:
>
> > Holy crap.  And I thought I was the only 200LX user in Wyoming... <g>
>
> Uh oh...... run, there's two of 'em <g>!
>
> Jeff
>
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>            ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
>            ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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Jornada:HP200LX = Lotus Organizer:Lotus Agenda

-roger-

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Date:         Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:20:52 -0600
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Then too, there are probably many many LX users that are not on this list. I had
an LX for two years before I found out about the "Mailing List". My browser
searches did not turn it up. Robert Hocking called me up one day after finding my
name stuffed in some obscure place as a user of an HP200LX.

What I am saying is that this list comprises only a fraction of users. There may
be some that are anticipating an LX purchase in the future when finances are
ripe. Then the sinking feeling, "Sorry, discontinued..."

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Roger Feinman wrote:

> Hal (and all),
>
> I support Steve Dowell's suggestion of sending e-mails, but I also think this
> situation requires an open letter to HP "signed" by as many users on this
> list (or over in  HPHAND) as are willing to lend their names, and published
> on one of the major support websites.  This is an effective way of letting
> those large HP customers know what to expect from that company.
>
> HP may turn its back on a sizable installed user base, and on millions of DOS
> users around the world who may not have been adequately exposed to the
> palmtop platform due to poor promotion by HP.  The former includes many who
> have made substantial investments (both money and time) in software and
> peripherals for this device.  How then can they ask their customers to
> support a new product such as Capshare?  And how long should we trust that
> WinCE will last?  Technically, there's no excuse for HP leaving its DOS users
> in a lurch.  Instead of having to purchase a spare 200LX, I would have much
> preferred to purchase a meaningful upgrade, but now HP threatens to deprive
> me of that choice in order to protect my investment for as long as possible.
> I find this unacceptable.  I also think it's bad business.
>
> Although I feel hypocritical about it -- because the 200LX is hardly the only
> HP product I own -- if they in fact intend the demise of this platform then I
> will never patronize them again.  Fortunately there are other high quality
> desktop computers, printers, scanners, CD-ROM drives, PDAs, etc., etc.,
> available from other manufacturers in the marketplace at competitive prices.
> I don't have to funnel money into an outfit that disrespects both its
> customers and aftermarket vendors, notably those who helped "spread the
> gospel" when it seemed to matter to Corvallis..
>
> In the meantime, I think all of  us on this list should congratulate
> ourselves on being among those who recognized and took advantage of a real
> value, and who attained the kind of computing power, flexibility, and freedom
> that we never could until the LXs came along.  Because I am convinced that
> empowerment of the individual is no longer a guiding value in the computer
> world, I seriously doubt whether there'll be another group like this during
> the next five-to-ten years.
>
> -roger-
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Uncle Paul wrote:

> The bottom line is: this was a business decision on the part of HP. No
> outside influence is going to change it. They don't have to be right, they
> will absorb any losses created by the decision to stop production.
>
> Sorry, if I sound cynical. I've been dealing with HP as a reseller for many
> years and have learned that they seldom go back on the direction that has
> been chosen.

It's OK, it's just business.  Where the almighty dollar rules all.  It's just
that it really stinks that they're doing this.

> All things designed and produced by "man" will come to an end. The LX is not
> as perpetual as the wheel.

But, surely it's as useful! <g>

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>What I am saying is that this list comprises only a fraction of
users. There may
>be some that are anticipating an LX purchase in the future when
finances are
>ripe. Then the sinking feeling, "Sorry, discontinued..."
>Bob Meyer>bmeyer@union-tel.com>Elk Mountain WY


Then why not put a once a month flyer into
comp.sys.handhelds
comp.sys.palmtops
(and any other applicable newsgroups)

Best regards.....Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Que paso con tu email que me viene rebotando ?
Tengo unas preguntas que hacer.
Gracias.

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This is a very good point  There may even be more LX users who are entirely
off the Web than on, although the most efficient and economical way that we
have of "reaching out" is through the Internet.  (Word somehow manages to get
around anyway.)  Hal's point was about reaching large volume HP customers.
Another angle might be to try to pre-empt HP with the computer press and
general mass media, all of whom are on the Web too.  There've been a number
of "DOS is Dead" articles in recent years.  Well, this is it!  This is the
whole ball of wax!  Probably the last PC dedicated to the MS-DOS operating
system.  Seems like a news item to me.

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Al Kind wrote:
> support, perhaps some thought could be given to a more feature rich HV.
> I wish I had the resources to commission such a project

Me too. But also, I am very frustrated by all the bloated (and
mandatory) bells and whistles and the little "tweaks" to standards that
the "big guys" use as weapons against each other and thereby make it
almost impossible for other parties to write reasonable browsers.
This dampens my enthusiasm quite a bit.

> Am I truly in the minority on this? Or if we allow Andreas a few
> kB of EMS memory

This also would mean that it would be *impossible* to use HV *without*
EMS as the EMS support would require more memory than is currently
available. This should also be taken into consideration.

> IF you had the time for such a project...
> ¬¬
>
> IF you had EMS to use, what features could be considered?
> ¬¬

And IF there were some hope that the big players don't invent some new
nonsense while implementing a new version...

the program could be made more stable. Graphical stuff (tables, frames)
could be implemented in a more GUI way. JavaScript could be supported
to a certain extend... and maybe hooks for some security stuff.

But there are too many IFs...

Andreas

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I use WWW/LX and HV for frequent (daily) web browsing and am happy to =
report
that it has been 3 weeks since I turned on my Win 95 machine. I use my LX
for everything, it's indispensable for my uses. With that said, I have =
found
a way to make WWW/LX & HV (and the other assorted apps such as TELNET/LX,
FTP/LX, etc..) browse at a quicker rate <g>.

For a mere $50USD, I'll share the secret with those who want to know how.
Okay, I'm just kidding.... I'll go ahead and tell you how, that way
everybody will still have some cash to spend on a stiff drink or to give =
to
their favorite charity <g>.

Like the majority of you, I use a 14.4MHz modem with a dialup account. I
don't have access to a zippy ethernet connection..... but we can make the
software run a bit faster by using a packet driver other than the one =
within
WWW/LX. For most of today (well, since about 12:00PM CDT) I have been =
using
EPPPD as my packet driver, instead of the WWW/LX one and have configured
WWW/LX into making it think it's talking to a ethernet card. You must =
change
your www.cfg file and add the required info for ethernet, but once
configured, it recognizes the EPPPD driver and uses it. At this point, I
haven't exactly figured out how to make WWW/LX automatically call up =
EPPPD
and dial automatically, so I have to run epppd from the command line, =
then
start WWW/LX, but hopefully over the weekend I'll be able to come up with
some nifty, magical batch file that will automate the process a bit. I
haven't done any scientific tests yet, but using the EPPPD drives seems, =
at
least to me and for me, to increase the speed at which HV and POST/LX =
runs
by about 25%-30%. The screen updates when using TELNET/LX like this is
almost instaneous as compared to using the WWW/LX TCP/IP engine.

Once, I get everything configured to my liking, I'll post some setup info
for all to view! Happy browsing!

Jeff

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Rebota el e-mail y te quiero preguntar unas cosas.
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Message text written by INTERNET:hobchi@JUNO.COM
>Where is the heading, title, indicator box
of this NOTE field?

I can copy a file into this file, all fields except
the text field.  Do I have to copy each record
text field individually?
<

Right: you can only have one Notes field in a database. If the destinatio=
n
file already has a note field the source file's field won't be added. =


The title for the notes field in the Exemplary database is the vertical
word Notes on the left side of the screen. N is the hot letter. =

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Subject:      Re: TRS100

If someone really wants a TRS100, I have one in excellent condition. Make
me an offer that I can't refuse. This unit has the manuals, the 2 tilt
rods, and carrying case. I am the second owner (the first owner bought it
and couldn't figure out what to do with it).

Please reply off-list.

David Peterson
dmp24@juno.com

On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:18:24 -0500 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
>On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:04:24 -0600, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> =
>wrote:
>
>>     TRS 100 (well, would we really want one today? I think not, was
...
>Jeff

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>From what I have seen, palmtops in general are not as universal of an
item as they have been in the past at HP. In Corvallis anyway. With the
new palmtop machines running CE and the special file formats, most people
that would have a palmtop don't consider it worththe bother. I just gave
my 320LX to some poor fool that had his stolen and actually wanted to
replace it! I am back on the 200LX again. I have a laptop. It sits at
home. The 200LX travels rather nicely in my back pocket. I just don't
have what it takes to stay tethered to a laptop or coat-pocket machine at
work.

David Peterson

On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:10:19 -0500 Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
writes:
...
>Isn't HP itself a huge user of the 200LX or is this no longer the case?
>Cheers,
>Mack

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In the talk about the 200LX being discontinued, I haven't yet seen anybody
ask: what about the 1000CX?

(Of course, maybe somebody else already asked and I missed it...)

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A Meshar wrote:
...
> Now you understand why HV will not be released publicly! We have a
> secret in there that we want to sell to Microsh*t (actually _MACRO_ is
> more appropriate!) for $60bn., buy a little country somewhere and retire
> as kings of our respective kingdoms. :)
>
> (I hope no one believes this last paragraph!)

Sure nobody will, unless you tell the truth. If you don't, I will!: We
also want to buy a small island for vacations! ;-)

Andreas

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It seems to me that ever since HP moved their palmtop division to Singapore,
things have gone downhill (with respect to the LX series)
The calculator division was also moved to Singapore, then to Australia:


    ...From the 1970's to 1993, all calculator design resided
    in Corvallis, Oregon, in the USA. In 1993, around the time of the
    release of the HP48G/GX, calculator design operations were moved to
    Singapore. After operations were moved to Singapore, the only
    calculator released was the HP38G, the result of a combination of
    efforts from Singapore and some people from HP Corvallis.

    The 38G, aimed at high school students, was largely a flop and the
    HP48 series remained the calculator of choice. After releasing NO
    new calculators after the 38G, it appeared HP Singapore was not
    ever going to do anything. So, at the 1997 HP Handheld Conference
    in London, it was announced that a new calculator group, the
    Australian Calculator Operation (ACO), would form in Australia on
    November 1, 1997 to design future calculators.
    http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49/docs/faq/

Perhaps something like this will happen to the palmtop division, and we will
all be saved :)

Tim Pitman

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Hi friends,

I decided to (let) make the DS upgrade and a RAM upgrade.

I prefer the 4MB upgrade kit ( --> 6MB ), because there is no
soldering necessary for that, and I think, it's better for my little
palmtop.

But I don't know if it's good if I make it myself.

Mack: In T. Rundel's price list there is a paragraph about the DS upgrade and
Thomas speaks not only about the new crystal but also about a 'filter
unit' that must be soldered into the palmtop. What's that? Is it
difficult to install?

What do you think: is it better for the palmtop's life expectancy if I
install the 4MB upgrade kit or doesn't it matter if I take this one or
maybe the 8 MB upgrade?

And: which upgrades cause an additional drive letter?
Please give me a few technical facts!


TNX
daniel

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Hi friends,

does Stacker run with _all_ flash card? I heard that it should only run
on cards until 32 MB. ?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:51:33 +1000
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I found inforamtion on using the CE300 digital camera with the IBM PC110
Palmtop (I've decided that one of these pc110's will be my lx 'replacement'
(well not really replacement; bigger, heavier, less battery life, less
durable -> I'm sure I'll still be using my trusty 100lx!)) at
http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/ce300.htm

It seems that this camera's pcmcia interface and software make use of card &
socket services drivers, which (I dont think) are provided on the 100/200lx.
Use of this camera would require specialised drivers to be written (not
impossible, but very tricky).

Tim Pitman

> Hi Al
>
> >
> > Some specs: 320X240 pixels.
> > Selectable focal length f2.8 - f8.
> > DOS SW.  Rotatable head 180 d.
>
> Sounds nice.
> Do you have more specs? (color/sw, cost, where to buy, ....)

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>Just in case there is a misunderstanding: I do not use the Nikon for the
purpose of loading images. I use the Canon A5 Zoom.<

No misunderstanding here <g>. I know you are using another camera than =
mine.
But it proves the concept of transferring pictures created from other =
sources
onto a digital camera, which in turn can show these pictures in it's =
slideshow
function.

It just doesn't work on my Nikon. Apparently my camera will only recognize
pictures it has produced itself. So I was hoping somebody had found out =
what it
is that makes the jpgs recognizable by the Nikon.

Probably the wrong place to ask, but you never know...

Jan

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Hi

I've just got my registered version of WWW-LX (V2.1) and am having the
hanging problem, can anybody point me to a location for the older V2.0
to download, until the newer (V2.2??) is available?

Many thanks

Dave Cripps

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> haven't done any scientific tests yet, but using the EPPPD drives seems, at
> least to me and for me, to increase the speed at which HV and POST/LX runs
> by about 25%-30%.

If this is the case, I would assume you have configured EPPPD in a
better way than you have configured WWW/LX. When using WWW/LX with
EPPPD, there is MORE work to be done (more copying between buffers)
then when you use WWW/LX alone. Could it be you use EPPPD with a higher
baud rate than WWW/LX? Or you have a PCMCIA modem and let EPPPD support
the FIFO-buffer, but not WWW/LX (by setting FIFO=1 in the corresponding
section of WWW.CFG)?

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On 06-23 10:50am, you wrote

> Jornada:HP200LX = Lotus Organizer:Lotus Agenda


Exactly! Eye-candy vs. flexibility. Unfortunately "the masses"
cannot handle flexibility, but they have a lot of money to
spend, so they steer the business. There is probably a huge
number of PDA users who believe that having a color-screen is
the most refined feature of their little toy.

Knowing the Agenda-story, I am absolutely not surprised that HP
stops the HP200LX. It even surprises that it has been produced
for so long, which shows that it is a very extraordinary device.
At last we are living in a shareholder-world now, so HP probably
did not do any wrong decision economically. Sad for us, but fine
for the investors.

Some suggest to organize and "force" HP to continue the HP200lx.
I think, they will probably laugh at the small number of people
using the HP200lx. And furthermore they are not interested in
the number of people owning a certain device, but in the number
of people willing to _buy_ a certain device.

The real shame is that HP did not care to develop a "real"
successor of the HP200lx.

Reinhard



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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:33:20 -0400
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Hi all,

Is anyone using WWW/LX with one of the free ISP's in the UK?
If so, which one do you use, and what is your setup?

Thanks,

 -Mike (who is currently very annoyed with Pathetic Pipex)

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 03:40:39 -0700
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I've run stacker on a 40MB card.

Wayne

Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> does Stacker run with _all_ flash card? I heard that it should only run
> on cards until 32 MB. ?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
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>
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"Eye candy" is an apt description.  I took another close look at the
Jornadas.  That's all they are.  The emulation of the Windows screen is just
fluff.  They are glorified contacts/to-do list databases.  Want to use them
in place of a $3.00 street map?  They'll do that too, with third-party
software.  The sole hook function-wise is portable web e-mail, but this has
already been devised for the LX platform.  (For corporate users, the Palm VII
is offering a more interesting wireless e-mail and web-browsing solution.)
Even though I'm in a position to charge it off, I would never put up the kind
of money that they are asking for the current machines, even with the
ridiculous "upgrade" offer.  (I'd be positively embarrassed to pull a Rex out
of my pocket in polite company, and maybe even in front of total strangers
too.)

-roger-

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:45:18 +0800
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Hi All,

I just have to send you my comments about this line:

> seem to have given in to pressure from Micro$oft (who else?) and they

Pressure from Microsoft- what's that?! I have seen this kind of
comments many times on this list and I personally do not see or feel any
pressure from Microsoft. The pressure is from the consumers! I
personally think it's very sad, but the fact is that the majority of PC
users (any flavor- notebook, handheld, desktop) love the Microsoft
products- so they buy Microsoft products.

Especially technical people do not appreciate or like the products from
Microsoft because we find the bugs and when we do something more
advanced than running Word or so- it crashes! Unfortunately, we are not
the majority- but a clear minority.

Say what you want about Microsoft products, but they did the right thing
at the right time and with a strong marketing became #1 operating system
in the world. If we should blame anyone, we should blame the majority of
the consumers which made Microsoft as strong as they are today! If a
company produces any kind of PC products which requires an operating
system and they want to get a good market share- they are plain stupid
if they don't go for what the majority wants! I don't think anyone can
argue against that.

All of us on this list loves our DOS palmtop PC's- but unfortunately we
are a clear minority. The consumers today are not like us- which loves
to sit and "hack" and and try different programs, solutions and
settings. The consumer of today wants a device as a productivity tool and
they are not interested in "hacking". They just want to use it directly
out of the box. It's sad, but it's true.

In one way I can understand them- after I setup a Linux server without
any experience. Linux is great, but I was working for weeks to make it
possible to map a drivers inbetween the Linux server and a Windows
desktop PC. But the first time I touched NT- installing a NT 4.0 server
without manuals or instructions, I sucessfully installed and setup the
whole system in less than an hour. (This doesn't mean that I preffer
NT!).

Unless you go for a niche market, you just have to supply what the
majority wants. So let's blame the suckers which install/use Windows by
their own free will!


Regards,


Jorgen
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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:55:24 -0400
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Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:49:47 +0100 (BST)

01h17m10s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 03:32:37 -0700 (CST), Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> -Mike (who is currently very annoyed with Pathetic Pipex)

WWW/LX works fine with Dynamic Demon :) I am on a month free trial, and
evem uploaded an index.htm last night using FTP/LX to start a web site
there.

I am sure WWW/LX will work with Freeserve. Just use CHAP as script.

I quite like Demon. Great telephone support. Will cost a tenner a month
though.

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>
>Exactly! Eye-candy vs. flexibility. Unfortunately "the masses"
>cannot handle flexibility, but they have a lot of money to
>spend, so they steer the business. There is probably a huge
>number of PDA users who believe that having a color-screen is
>the most refined feature of their little toy.
>
Why can't they have both, a CE that runs DOS like WIN95
going to DOS?  They put CE in cause it surposedly took
less mem but because mem ain't no problem no more, they
can just put win/DOS back in.  No?   Guess not,, they ain't doing it.

yor pal al..............................



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Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:49:31 -0500 (EST)

Greetings All:

     OK, I'll put my "money where my mouth is" (or at least put forth
some effort to see if there is any interest in this direction) I will
compose a HV SURVEY later today and send it out to the HPLX-L. I will
set it up such that responces go to a unique mailbox(seems my
palmtop.com would be appropriate) collate the info after a week and
send the results to the LIST(will keep individuals anonymous). If there
any specific questions you(or anyone) would like asked, let me know.




13h57m55s ago ...

On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Ok, Al, are you ( or anyone else!) willing to collect a tally of people =
here
> who have WWW/LX Plus and think that a browser on the Palmtop is terrific=
 dea,
> vs. those who think that it is better to get other tools in place.
>
> I think it would be important that people identify themselves by name =
and
> email address, or their voice is useless. I don't want to see the list, =
so I
> am accused of collecting a mailinsg list :) - but it would be nice to =
know if
> the demographics of this list is different from my customer base.

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Hi All:

     I'm having trouble getting my LX connected to a WFW/W95 network.
Could someone with a working node drop me a note and help me
troubleshoot? I seem to have everything loaded, but I can't see the
workgroup(and they can't see me)

TIA,

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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:53:20 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

> If this is the case, I would assume you have configured EPPPD in a
> better way than you have configured WWW/LX. When using WWW/LX with
> EPPPD, there is MORE work to be done (more copying between buffers)
> then when you use WWW/LX alone. Could it be you use EPPPD with a higher
> baud rate than WWW/LX? Or you have a PCMCIA modem and let EPPPD support
> the FIFO-buffer, but not WWW/LX (by setting FIFO=3D1 in the correspondin=
g
> section of WWW.CFG)?

Hmmm... interesting..... I have the same baud set for both of them =
(19200).
Under which section in www.cfg does the FIFO=3D1 go? Any chance of =
getting the
latest wwwdoc.txt?

Jeff

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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> personally think it's very sad, but the fact is that the majority of PC
> users (any flavor- notebook, handheld, desktop) love the Microsoft
> products- so they buy Microsoft products.

Do you *love* to brush your teeth? Or do you brush them because
everybody else does it and because you have been told to do so (by the
dentists' marketing <G>)?

> and they want to get a good market share- they are plain stupid
> if they don't go for what the majority wants! I don't think anyone can
> argue against that.

BUT. If a majority wants something, is really a good idea to *only*
provide this and completely disregard the minorities? If a majority of
the population declares hamburgers as their favourite meal, is it a
good idea if the *only* food that is produced is  hamburgers? I guess
the long term value of HP shares will tell. <G>

> All of us on this list loves our DOS palmtop PC's

I think this is an invalid generalisation. I am on this list and I
don't love DOS. I would prefer an operating system to a hardware
specification! The only reason I stick to that DOS thing is because
there isn't anything that addresses more of my needs for a mobile
computing device. I am ready to jump for several years, but I certainly
won't jump from a computer to a WinCE toy (that can do +-*/, and not even
that correctly).

> The consumer of today wants a device as a productivity tool

??? I dare to doubt. If they wanted to do something productive, they
needed something like the palmtop. I rather think, they need something
that "looks good". I cannot be productive if I have to "copy and paste"
an umlaut into a text instead of pressing a key (combination) to enter
it.

> they are not interested in "hacking". They just want to use it directly
> out of the box. It's sad, but it's true.

I don't find it sad. I would love to have a device that can be used out
of the box w/o tweaking and twisting a lot (like on the 200LX) or being
unable to do what I need (as with the WinCE toys).

> Unless you go for a niche market, you just have to supply what the
> majority wants.

This is certainly true, but that does not mean if 50.1% wants A and 40%
want B, that you should not produce B, does it? Especially if you have
expertise in B. Frankly, I am very much disappointed by HP. They
*could* have dominated the market with *good* products for a long time
because they *had* the knowhow (and they could have supplied the mass
market in addition to that). Instead, HP drops the leading position and
tries to imitate low cost mass production from <insert your favourite
low cost mass production country here>. They lost me as a devoted customer
who bought from HP (almost blindly), and I am not the only one :-(

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Could we all possibly consider getting a grip?

HP did us a tremendous service by creating the wonderful 95/100/200LX series
of computers.  We all have them.  We have a small group of business who will
support us with modifications, repairs and software for as long as we will
continue to patronize them.  There are enough used LX's around that none of
us will ever go wanting.

Our real complaint is that we could not make the rest of the world see
things our way.  Lets get used to it.  The rest of the world wants to down
load their telephone book from their desktop Pentium and see the phone
numbers in color.  Let them.

HP was not going to upgrade the 200LX anyway.  We knew that the day they
introduced the first WinCE model.  The fact that they are not going to
manufacture more new units to the existing spec -- sad as it is -- does not
impact any of us very much at all.

We are the lucky ones.  Lets try to enjoy it.

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Under which section in www.cfg does the FIFO=1 go?

I said "the corresponding section" because I don't know what the
section name is. If you use CIS as your ISP, the section will be named
ÝCIS¨, if you use AT&T as your ISP, the section may be named ÝATT¨. If
your ISP is named xyzzy, the section probably is named ÝXYZZY¨. I hope
I could make it understandable.

>Any chance of getting the latest wwwdoc.txt?

How many times do you intend to post that question. I sent three copies
of the latest docs to you so far.

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Greetings,

  I had stacker running on my 200lx with a Transcend 64MB card.  It
worked fine. I have since outgrown the card and moved to a larger
card that doesn't need stacker (yet!).

john


> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > does Stacker run with _all_ flash card? I heard that it should only run
> > on cards until 32 MB. ?


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> I prefer the 4MB upgrade kit ( --> 6MB ), because there is no
> soldering necessary for that, and I think, it's better for my little
> palmtop.

If you have a newer 2MB palmtop then you will most likely have to solder in
the connector for the memory board.

> But I don't know if it's good if I make it myself.

I don't recommend it unless you have experience soldering around surface
mount components.

> Mack: In T. Rundel's price list there is a paragraph about the DS upgrade
and
> Thomas speaks not only about the new crystal but also about a 'filter
> unit' that must be soldered into the palmtop. What's that? Is it
> difficult to install?

There is no filter component as of several years ago, just the crystal.

> What do you think: is it better for the palmtop's life expectancy if I
> install the 4MB upgrade kit or doesn't it matter if I take this one or
> maybe the 8 MB upgrade?

This is a matter of preference as to how much memory you think you will need
for your applications.

> And: which upgrades cause an additional drive letter?
> Please give me a few technical facts!

The 32MB and above upgrades all give a separate drive letter.

Cheers,
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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:52:22 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

> How many times do you intend to post that question. I sent three copies
> of the latest docs to you so far.

I only asked once and that was this morning. I just received all three
copies and they were all sent within seconds of each other. Forgive me =
for
asking, but the newest copy is not (as of 6/23/99) in the latest archive =
on
the D&A web site.

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
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Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:05:11 -0500 (EST)

04h11m51s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Jeff Johns wrote:
> > haven't done any scientific tests yet, but using the EPPPD drives =
seems, at
> > least to me and for me, to increase the speed at which HV and POST/LX =
runs
> > by about 25%-30%.
>
> If this is the case, I would assume you have configured EPPPD in a
> better way than you have configured WWW/LX...
>  Or you have a PCMCIA modem and let EPPPD support the FIFO-buffer,
> but not WWW/LX (by setting FIFO=3D1 in the corresponding section of =
WWW.CFG)?

     WOW! I just added FIFO=3D1 in my WWW.CFG setup, and indeed, things
seem a little faster. What are the implications of this switch? Is
there some reason it is not a default?

Cheers,

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> Some suggest to organize and "force" HP to continue the HP200lx.
> I think, they will probably laugh at the small number of people
> using the HP200lx. And furthermore they are not interested in
> the number of people owning a certain device, but in the number
> of people willing to _buy_ a certain device.

I agree with this statement fully.  _WE_ already own one or two and can
only buy so many backups.  Unless HP can sell THOUSANDS, many thousands
more, they will break down the assembly line.  I believe from the pretty
positive reviews I've been reading about the HP680, that HP probabably
thinks they have come close to the perfect unit and that the HP200
manufacture is not necessary.  If they still do their manufacturing as I
saw in Corvallis years ago, they have to break down the 200 assembly
line, put up the 680 (or other) assembly line.  Then take down the 680,
and put up the 200.  If they can't sell enough 200's anymore, they
probably don't think the effort is worth it.

> The real shame is that HP did not care to develop a "real"
> successor of the HP200lx.

Very true but maybe (and I don't know the tech stuff) it was not
possible to get reasonable battery life from faster units besides the
Singapore "not invented here" attitude.  It seems that they have come up
with reasonable backlighting.

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> There is no filter component as of several years ago, just the crystal.
>

Why were 'filter components' ever necessary?

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Has anyone ever been able to use the IR function to connect a Sharp
Zaurus and a 100LX? If you have, I'd appreciate some guidance!

Thanks,

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I was not aware of an HP49. Looking at the photo, they should have called it the

iCalc, looks more like a $9.95 unit that will be hanging up in Wal-Mart.

I regret the HP42 being discontinued. Not being a student, teacher, nor doing
engineering anymore, I don't usually have a need for graphics capabilities. The
HP42 fits nicely in your shirt pocket and stashes easily and can do much -- look

at the HP41 library if still available. The HP48 is just not pocket hardware.
The HP32 has too much keyboard text clutter, but at least it is RPN.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Tim Pitman wrote:

> It seems to me that ever since HP moved their palmtop division to Singapore,
> things have gone downhill (with respect to the LX series)
> The calculator division was also moved to Singapore, then to Australia:
>
>     ...From the 1970's to 1993, all calculator design resided
>     in Corvallis, Oregon, in the USA. In 1993, around the time of the
>     release of the HP48G/GX, calculator design operations were moved to
>     Singapore. After operations were moved to Singapore, the only
>     calculator released was the HP38G, the result of a combination of
>     efforts from Singapore and some people from HP Corvallis.
>
>     The 38G, aimed at high school students, was largely a flop and the
>     HP48 series remained the calculator of choice. After releasing NO
>     new calculators after the 38G, it appeared HP Singapore was not
>     ever going to do anything. So, at the 1997 HP Handheld Conference
>     in London, it was announced that a new calculator group, the
>     Australian Calculator Operation (ACO), would form in Australia on
>     November 1, 1997 to design future calculators.
>     http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49/docs/faq/
>
> Perhaps something like this will happen to the palmtop division, and we will
> all be saved :)
>
> Tim Pitman
>
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> > There is no filter component as of several years ago, just the crystal.
> >
>
> Why were 'filter components' ever necessary?

In the early days we bought 3rd overtone crystals and used a filter circuit
to get the 3rd overtone as the frequency.

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Al Kind wrote:
> WOW! I just added FIFO=1 in my WWW.CFG setup, and indeed, things
> seem a little faster. What are the implications of this switch?

The UART of the palmtop does not support buffering. The UARTs of most
PCMCIA modems does. If there is a buffer, several characters can be
received before the CPU must be ready to handle them. Without a buffer,
the baud rate must be set low enough so that the CPU is able to handle
each interrupt individually. So you can use a higher baud rate with
FIFO=1, provided the card supports it.

> Is there some reason it is not a default?

It always works with FIFO=0. I don't know if some modems might provide
a problem with FIFO=1.

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On 24 Jun 1999  Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> Posted:

> > abundance of 8,32,64,...?MB machines out there, all capable of EMS
> > support, perhaps some thought could be given to a more feature rich HV.
>
> What about supporting sys|x, which is being developed from  scratch? If
> Andreas says the code can6t be changed, then we must go a  different route,
> right?

Excellent idea. I support this wholeheartedly. Seriously.

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On 23 Jun 1999 Jeremy Martinson <Jeremy.Martinson@BIOANTHROPOLOGY.OXFORD.AC.UK>
astutely observed:

> I suppose that, if my HP200 doesn't have a serial #, then I  can't take
> advantage of the trade-up (up?) to a Jornada offer that HP are  running at
> the moment. So things aren't all THAT bad.

Looks like you have a machine with no chance of migrating down to a Jornada -
good deal! Probably will fetch more on the open market than ones that could be
traded down to a WinCE thing.

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On 23 Jun 1999 Jeremy Martinson <Jeremy.Martinson@BIOANTHROPOLOGY.OXFORD.AC.UK>
wrote:

> ... but my HP200LX doesn't seem to  have a serial number on it.
>
> ... Have I got some strange black-market,  no-questions-asked machine?
>
> ... Or has it been stolen and wiped of its former identity? FWIW,  my
> HP200 is a Korean machine with some fancy script on the keyboard - maybe
> some poor soul in Seoul (sorry...) is filing an insurance claim as I write.

Perhaps it was deliberately removed. AFAiK HP made one large sale of 200LX (or
maybe it was 100LX?) to a Korean company. They provided a machine to each
employee. Many "walked" under strange, and "no questions asked" circumstances.

> (sig removed for the convenience of those who pay-by-the-byte)

You are a kind soul! :) Maybe once in 10 posts you can add the full thing?
That may satisfy the "Urge To Sig" yet cust 90% of the volume... You must be
logging on from work, because almost all Europeans pay for phone by the
minute, some by the moment even...

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On 23 Jun 1999 Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> Read in a newsgroup that you could press Esc and then ON to  get into
> selftest mode on a Hp 200..well I did..now I can not get my cf  24 mb
> Sandisk to work.

You missed the part that said "don't run the self-test on the plug in Ram".
Well a compact flash is not a plug-in ram, it is a storage device. I believe
there is some explanation in the User's Manual.

> It got erased and I can not "find" it in the filer. I have  tried the card

Yes, its identification bytes have been toasted. There was some program
somewhere allegedly capable of restoring this. I recall it vaguely, but not in
enough detail to make a suggestion to you. Sorry.

FDISK100 (check your D: drive) may as well be used to reformat the card on the
Palmtop.

> -Mvh/Best Regards
> Martin Bergvill Narvik Norway
> Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
> -.."This --> {  } is probably the best button to press."
> (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)

It is probably punishment because you use such a long sig block! :-)

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On 23 Jun 1999  Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

> I agree w/ Stefan, if D&A want to bring HV out of the freeware  market into
> a fee based product to justify development, I would pay.  No need for JAVA,
> etc..., but more realistic table rendering would be  nice.

They told me it will take a lot of patience :-)

Let's try again. It is not an issue of fee or no fee. It is a technical
issue. We are not playing games or politics. To suggest that is simply
thoughtless and insulting. If you know C you know that the pointers in the
progrma are 2 bytes long. This allows a maximum program segment of 64K. The
program has a large number of pointers. The next size pointers is 4 bytes.
Lets you address much more memory. But also takes much more memory! The
program now could jump to something beyond what can run on the palmtop.

Sure, with a 386 you can address larger memories and larger programs. We don't
have it on the palmtop. If we had that chip we could probably run Opera and
Netscape, too.

Now, if someone feels competent to tackle this and make a browser, I want to
stand in line and get one of the first copies! I think Andreas will be with
me, waiting too. (Actually only a painter of the HTmL document is needed, if
you use our WWW.EXE through the API.) I would be glad to help someone come up
with a better HP=HTML Painter :) ...

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On 24 Jun 1999  Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> Posted:

> I realize the code in the current HV is tight, and a  delicate balance exists
> to keep the bugs out. My point was that Avi  implied that there was more
> interest in the other clients than HV, and that  any HV development MAY have
> been stifled due to that.

I have not implied this. I said this. If there was a huge demand, we would
probably consider doing _something_ - don't know what. But absent such demand,
the opposite course seemd right.

> With the  relative abundance of 8,32,64,...?MB machines out there, all
> capable of  EMS support, perhaps some thought could be given to a more
> feature  rich HV. I wish I had the resources to commission such a project,
> but  my support of programmers is pretty much limited to license fees, and
> some donation of spare hardware to those who can use it ;-).

I wrote to you about the restriction on the code (but it has not yet been
sent.) EMM was considered too, same problem, except also PAL will have to be
redone (huger project) to accomodate EMM, or abandoned, increasing the work to
do in HV.

> Am I truly in the minority on this? Or if we allow  Andreas a few kB of EMS
> memory, and perhaps a financial incentive, would  there be others who would
> mind merit in the project? Call is "HV+" or  "HVc" (HV commercial).

It is not about money. Please everyone, THIS IS NOT ABOUT money. HV is
freeware, in case you did not notice.

This is getting to the point of pointlessness. We now have covered all the
bases, made all the statements we know about, and even those we don't know
about.

Time to put this to rest, please... It is taking too much time as it is.

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Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:33:33 -0400 (EDT)

01h21m02s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > the majority of PC
> > users (any flavor- notebook, handheld, desktop) love the Microsoft
> > products- so they buy Microsoft products.
>
> Do you *love* to brush your teeth? Or do you brush them because
> everybody else does it and because you have been told to do so (by the
> dentists' marketing <G>)?

Hmmm - actually I brush mine so they don't rot.  8-)   But the point is
valid.  The majority will LOVE what the propaganda mills TELL them they
love.  And propaganda is controlled by money.  In the software arena,
that's Micro$haft.

> > The consumer of today wants a device as a productivity tool
>
> ??? I dare to doubt. If they wanted to do something productive, they
> needed something like the palmtop. I rather think, they need something
> that "looks good".

True.  The "Yuppie Toy" view has been in effect at HP and the rest of
the market for several years now.  Look at the 48G series.  They're
wonderful, powerful calculators, BUT - the manual doesn't say how to
use half the functions.  You need the "Advanced User's Guide".  But
it's almost impossible to find.   Apparently HP assumes (probably
correctly) that most buyers want an impressive toy, but don't need or
want the capabilities of the machine...


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On 23 Jun 1999  Phillipe <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> > Web browsing was never a factor in their purchase decision.
> > No, you are not the last one using HV to browse. I do too.
>
> Uh... but what about the people for which it *was* a purchase  decision?

What about them? I asked our customers where we should put our resources in
the future, what to emphasize. The vast majority said leave browsing alone.
Give us more, better email. Give us more, better connectivity, give us more,
better interfaces. That is what we are doing.

Among the respondents is also a small group (like you and others) who wanted
exquisite browsing.

> The Web site does specify "The Internet Solution in Your  Pocket! Web
> Browser, Email, and Newsgroups on the Palmtop!"

Good point. I just removed that :-) In fact, HV is freeware, was freeware -
always. It came before there was any www/lx. It is a freeware add-on (client)
for WWW.EXE much like Telnet/LX and ftp/lx are.

> So as a user, what I need to know is: will web browsing ever  be improved in
> upcoming versions? From the insider (this lists) point of  view, it looks
> like the answer is a vibrant "no".

You misstate my "vibrant "no"" :-) (nice expression, BTW). I said: _HV_ will
not be developed further. Neither Andreas nor I said anything about Web
browsing future on the palmtop.

In a recent post, I invited developers who wish to make a better, more
lovely, more googawy, doodady browser. I tentatively offered help to _anyone_
in making this come true for the palmtop (tentative pending discussions and
consultation with my partner). Soooo, your message about the demise of
browsing on the palmtop is somewhat premature, and certainly unsubstantiated
by facts.

> No hard feelings. I just wish there was an option -- a way out  -- for web
> browsing to be improved. Right now, I only see three  possibilities:

I am sure not! Just a tremendous heartache and disappointment for Andreas and
I about the portrayal of D&A's motivations in all this.

As to your assessment of the future might hold:

> - HV is rewritten by someone else (or a group) based on the  original HV
> (with your approval and support -- seem unlikely so far, and that's  okay)

HV will not be touched. It will not be released. The source code will not be
given out. There seems to some part of the word "no" that causes some
misunderstanding and confusion, which is it? :)

> - HV is rewritten from scratch by someone else (or a group)  (as long as they
> know how to hook up with the rest of WWW/LX)

HV itself is not at play here. Yesterday in a post I suggested that we would
be glad to help anyone who wishes to write a browser (actually just a painter
is necessary.) Similar proposals were floated in the past by Andreas and I.
We were generally open to anyone willing to step up to the plate to do such
things.

Example: IRC - a long thread resulting in NO ONE coming forward!

Example: A more "graphical" FTP - another long discussion, another repeat of
the suggestion to come forth to anyone willing to tackle it. Result: ZERO! No
one came up.

Example: Rod suggested to release HV. We won't, we said so. We also invited
anyone to step up and discuss with us what they want to do and we offered the
API to that person. Result: ZERO! No one came up.

Privately I wrote to two prominent programming talents here, inviting them to
work with us. Result: They do not have time for that, sorry. I can understand
the committments people have in their lives.

> - A whole new WWW package is written by someone else, perhaps  using LXTCP or
> another PPP package.

Possible.

> Anyway we slice it, it's not easy. The alternative is HP software stagnating
> and eventually dying because it won't be able to keep up with the  internet
> tech advances.

I agree. The "grilling" that authors and producers of software sometimes have
to endure here certainly makes it a bit unattractive to enter this role of a
developer for the Palmtops. While a discussion is always useful and tends to
bring out ideas, it seems that the fine line between discussion and hammering
is crossed. During three such "grillings" (slicing/dicing, as you wish) I
endured here (at least one with you) I received three types of private
emails:

1. From potential developers, expressing an interest but requesting full
anonimity to prevent the involvement in the grillings. (Three different
potential authors wrote that!)

2. PR people offering to mount a PR campaign for us. I declined because I am
comfortable being up front and open with the community I serve.

3. People expressing their empathy. Thank you all.

So, again: If anyone wishes to step up and do some programming you know how
to find me. We (D&A) have a fairly narrow interest to protect, and beyond that
it is wide open.

If you can talk the mile, but not walk it in _our_ shoes, than let's not even
talk...

All the best to you, Phillippe.

 Avi Meshar
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On 23 Jun 1999  Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> Writes:

> *ahem* I don't think so.  Also, while honesty in business is  good, this
> "brick wall" is artificial.  It is the result of, for whatever  reason,
> refusing to realize when a rewrite is needed.  When I write  programs, my
> first step is to get a working prototype, however kludged it  may be.  Once
> I have that prototype, I sit down and logically map out how the  program
> should be written for best efficiency.  Then I scrap the prototype  and
> write the release version.  In my view, HV is still a prototype until it  is
> completely rewritten inside and out.

For not ever having seen HV's source (AFAIK), and not participating in the
Beta, and not being on the "inside" of much of the info regarding D&A and HV
you sure tell things like they are facts. They are not. You are wrong
factually. Your view of whatever HV is, is, at best myopic and terribly
incomplete. Sorry, Ian, but you really have no idea what you speak of. But at
least you say it well :-) ...

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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:47:24 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Example: IRC - a long thread resulting in NO ONE coming forward!

I truly wish I knew enough to be able to write a IRC Client. It's a shame
the CE folks have clients such as bIRC and yet we do not have one
specifically made for the LX. Thank goodness, I can do IRC from a shell
prompt, but it would be so cool to have one (maybe a PAL app) that would =
run
from a PPP connection that could do dcc and all the other goodies.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:36:22 GMT
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Hi friends,

has anyone ever tried the program BOOTDMOD.EXE?
It's for changing the cluster size of drives, and it
should even work with CF cards >32MB.

I'm considering if I change the cluster size of my 48MB CF to 1kB or
512 bytes...
But I'd like to know if this program works reliably!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:40:37 -0700
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Jeff Johns pointed us to old docs in the archives.

Yep!!! WWWDOC.TXT is now renewed in the WWWLX.ZIP and WWWLX.EXE archives.

It now talks about Ethernet and Ir and all that... Sorry. I don't know what
happened, but I had both version in my plamtop.

Let me know if this ok now.

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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:40:37 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Yep!!! WWWDOC.TXT is now renewed in the WWWLX.ZIP and WWWLX.EXE archives=
.

Thanks.... it was weird, it was kinda like being on a time machine <g>.

Jeff

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Hi There!

> HV survey?  I don't care because I don't use it.  I erased all
> its files to free space on my 4M 200LX.  Even the worst
> graphical desktop browser is better than one limited to b/w cga
> and a 80186 cpu.

That's what you think, but I have another idea about HV. I have many
times been in situations when I quickly need some information
(internet/intranet) or a good program in order to solve my problems.
With HV, I can get what I need- any time, anywhere- thanks to Andreas and
Dasoft! I also have a major collection of useful data on my palmtop
which is in HTML format- such as the 100/200LX Developer's Kit, etc.
A HP 200LX without HV is to me like a car without tires- you can run it
but not really move forward!


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Hi All,

As a HP 200LX user I do not try to defend any party here, but more look
at it as how the real world works- unfortunately. I now realize that I
will get "Go and Die kind of e-mails" because of my former message and
my comments here. But the fact is- I am not stupid, I just look at what
the market wants and realized (to my surprise...) that the majority wants
Win CE.

> HP may turn its back on a sizable installed user base, and on millions =
of DOS
> users around the world who may not have been adequately exposed to the
> palmtop platform due to poor promotion by HP.  The former includes many =
who

No comments about poor promotion or not- but what makes you think that
almost 10 years of sales of DOS palmtop PC's has a sizable user base
COMPARE to 2 years of Win CE sales? For us on this list it sounds maybe
crazy- but we have to face it: Microsoft Win CE has only started and
it's so strong that even guys like PalmPilot takes it as a serious
threat...

> WinCE will last?  Technically, there's no excuse for HP leaving its DOS =
users

I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I have =
to
wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and this
PC is running Win CE V101.69! From this the government will be able to
read what I have been and what I took for lunch- when I jump into the
buss. With other words- not only the cost of my trip will be deducted,
but my whole life syncronized with the government. :)

> in a lurch.  Instead of having to purchase a spare 200LX, I would have =
much
> preferred to purchase a meaningful upgrade, but now HP threatens to =
deprive
> me of that choice in order to protect my investment for as long as =
possible.
> I find this unacceptable.  I also think it's bad business.

Please! I am sure that you are not threatened at all... I am sorry to
say this again- but what we have today is a consumer oriented market. If
a product doesn't sell- stop the production. Plain and simple- UNFORTUNATE=
LY.
For example- I have so far not seen a company which continue to sell a
product which doesn't make sense to keep in production. Have you? Would
you continue to work for your own company if your salary was lowered and
became lower than your monthly expenses? I don't think so. So stop blame
HP, blame the people which gladly use Windows!

Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. Long Live 200LX!!!
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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:18:09 GMT
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Hi Mack,

> If you have a newer 2MB palmtop then you will most likely have to solder in
> the connector for the memory board.

I have a newer (SG 835...) 4MB machine. What about these?

TNX
daniel

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<<In the talk about the 200LX being discontinued, I haven't yet seen anybody
ask: what about the 1000CX?>>

I am sure that if the 200LX goes, so will the 1000CX.

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Hi friends,

has anyone had this problem before:

"Problem receiveing data! TCP connection aborted by peer" Ýcontinue¨
"Could not access http://www.dasoft.com" Ýcontinue¨

These windows appeared while in HV and trying to access
http://www.dasoft.com and several other sites.

(I left Post/LX by Ýmenu¨Ýx¨Ýx¨Ýv¨ (=External command "HV", no
disconnect))

After exiting HV and going back into Post/LX the message TCP connection
aborted by user" appeared in the mailboxes window (without a frame or
button)... but it's possible to work in Post/LX. Simply a part in the
middle of the screen is overlayed by this message.

Strange, isn't it?

I have done the following before I noticed that behaviour:

I added in the WWW.CFG in the PPP_ISP section "FIFO=1" and
"HTTP_PROXY=proxy.zrz.tu-berlin.de:8080".

Could that be the reason?

Thanks in advance,

daniel

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:23:42 -0500
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<<Hal,
Do you think it would be beneficial if everyone on this list were to
send an email (or snail mail) to someone at HP? Do you have a suggestion
of who at HP would be a good person to send our comments to?>>

Honestly, I don't think so -- but who knows.  HP is well aware of how
popular the 200LX is among some, and that because of DOS, the 200OX provides
good vertical solutions.  I work pretty closely with HP Singapore, and they
know our 200LX catalog is successful.  I can't think of whose email address
I should give out, who wouldn't be very annoyed at me -- and more
importantly who it would do much good.

My understanding (which I give about 70% credibility too) is that big HP
customers have expressed displeasure to HP about discontinuing the 200LX.
That is why I urge anyone on the list whose company is a big HP customer to
contact as high a level an HP person as possible and object to discontinuing
the 200LX.

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<<Isn't HP itself a huge user of the 200LX or is this no longer the case?
DOS
is still a huge platform for embedded systems.  I was hoping with the advent
of the higher memory upgrades that the 200LX (or 1000CX) would have been
seen as a viable option in this area.>>

I don't think HP itself any more is a big user.  I know several years ago
they talked with me about certain possibilities concerning backlighting and
more memory to the 200LX.  But nothing came of it. However, they are really
committed to Windows CE, and the 200LX doesn't fit into their plans.  Also,
I am convinced sales of the 200LX have decreased significantly in the past
year, which adds to their justification of discontinuing it.  (It goes,
almost without saying, that HP has done almost everything possible to kill
it, to "unpromote" the 200LX.)

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<<HP may turn its back on a sizable installed user base, and on millions of
DOS
users around the world who may not have been adequately exposed to the
palmtop platform due to poor promotion by HP.>>

One thing that should be pointed out in HP's defense.  I suspect (65%
probability) that HP is having increasingly difficult time securing parts
and guaranteeing that they will be able to get them in the future (screens
in particular).  Because of HP's corporate policy of supporting equipment 3
years after it is discontinued, this is a significant concern.  I believe
there are other similar issues that are involved in HP's decision.

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<<Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
could change or delay this decision?>>

I don't think it will do much good.  But I can certainly forward an email
signed by lots of folks.

<<  It would be nice to hear from
someone at HP as to WHY?!  >>

I think the short answer is not enough sales to continue it.

<<Otherwise, is someone out there plannning on buying a bunch of them and
reselling them later?  It's certainly a chance, but it would be nice to
be able to buy a new one later on, if need be, or, I'll save my pennies
and head for e-bay!>>

We may, but it is very risky.  The profit margins on new palmtops are VERY
small. Once discontinued, it is often difficult to sell them at normal
retail prices.  I think our used business should remain strong for sometime
though.

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The one thing i dont like is microsoft (Bill Gates) ordered he engineers to
install viruses in other operating systems other than IBM PCs there is proof
of that!!! to corner an already leading market  greed huh?

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:11:52 -0400
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01h05m17s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I =
have to
> wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and this
> PC is running Win CE V101.69! From this the government will be able to
> read what I have been and what I took for lunch- when I jump into the
> buss. With other words- not only the cost of my trip will be deducted,
> but my whole life syncronized with the government. :)

Egad!!  Now THERE'S a nightmare.  Of course, I'll be 104 - or a lot
more likely - well past caring about software...   And what's this
"synchronized with the government"??  What government??  By 2050 there
won't be any government - just Micro$haft and the "Universal Church of
Gates".


-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:40:22 -0600
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The HP 200LX Users guide (page 3-21) outlines the process of removing
appointments from the Week and Month views.  I've tried the process but the
options seem to have no effect on my week and month views - any body else
have this problem?

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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Re: Cynical view - Monopoly$oft & Yuppie Toys...
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On 25 Jun 99, at 10:57, Peniel Romanelli wrote:


> True.  The "Yuppie Toy" view has been in effect at HP and the rest of th=
e
> market for several years now.  Look at the 48G series.  They're wonderfu=
l,
> powerful calculators, BUT - the manual doesn't say how to use half the
> functions.  You need the "Advanced User's Guide".  But it's almost
> impossible to find.   Apparently HP assumes (probably correctly) that mo=
st
> buyers want an impressive toy, but don't need or want the capabilities o=
f
> the machine...
>

How true. When I ordered the 48 "Advanced User's Guide" nobody
in the HP seller had ever heard about it (and they sold a lot of 48's).
HP Portugal didn't had one single copy in stock. I waited for almost
half a year for my copy (but, going back in time again, I waited four
months for a AC adapter for the 200LX and two months for a 1.8MB
flash card - HP Portugal has this things, my desktop is a Brio, the
OS it came with was M$ Windows 95 in portuguese, I wanted
Windows 95 or 98 in english, I dialed the Lisbon area support
number for the Brio series, the person who answered said she was
from the DeskJet support, patched me to another person, who
didn=B4t spoke portuguese and was from the Servers support and
finnaly patched me to Brio support where they told me they didn=B4t
had the Windows 98 upgrade for the Brio series in Portugal - well, I
went arround the corner to a computer shop, bought an over the
shelf Windows 98 english upgrade version, reformated the C: drive,
installed the new OS and only after almost an hour of surfing
through the HP sites was I able to find the drivers for the sound,
video and keyboard)

Regards

Antonio
---------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
Cell Phone + 351 931 555590
Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., local time)
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
aameneze@aip.mailpac.pt  (work)

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>I cannot be productive if I have to "copy and paste"
>an umlaut into a text instead of pressing a key (combination) to enter
>it.


Is this in all versions of CE?

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<I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I have to
wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and this
PC is running Win CE V101.69!>

No, it will run Linux. WinCE and all the other M$ crap will then be open
source too.

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Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

Hi There!

> HV survey?  I don't care because I don't use it.  I erased all
> its files to free space on my 4M 200LX.  Even the worst
> graphical desktop browser is better than one limited to b/w cga
> and a 80186 cpu.

That's what you think, but I have another idea about HV. I have many
times been in situations when I quickly need some information
(internet/intranet) or a good program in order to solve my problems.
With HV, I can get what I need- any time, anywhere- thanks to Andreas and
Dasoft! I also have a major collection of useful data on my palmtop
which is in HTML format- such as the 100/200LX Developer's Kit, etc.
A HP 200LX without HV is to me like a car without tires- you can run it
but not really move forward!


Regards,

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Well, said Jorgen.

I'v been with WWW/LX and HV since its release. (:-¨

Now, can somebody tell me. How what setting do I need to put in my hv.cfg
to download from the D&A FTP site without needing a username and password?

Here is what my ftp entry in my hv.cfg looks like:

ftp=a:\hv\ftp.exe %s


Looking forward to any replies.


Regards,


Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net


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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:01:01 -0500
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Please contact me off the list if you are interested.  I can send photo
attachments to show physical condition.

Palm Connect
For HP 100LX & 200LX
Includes HOTSYNC! to automatically back up and synchronize your data.  Will
work with cable or PCMCIA.
Manual & 3 1/2 disk.
Paid $69


ACT! for the HP Palmtop.  Version 1.1 by Symantec
Users Guide
User's Guide Addendum
Registration card - never mailed :)
3 1/2 disk


I have other software but I'm not sure if anyone would buy it.
Quicken 6 for DOS
Q&A for DOS by Symantic.
ccMail Mobile for DOS
ccMail Desktop for Windows

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:09:24 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Now, can somebody tell me. How what setting do I need to put in my hv.cfg
> to download from the D&A FTP site without needing a username and password?

All I do is visit the site using http://www.dasoft.com and navigate to
the download areas and highlight what I want to download.

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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨

>      I'm having trouble getting my LX connected to a WFW/W95 network.
> Could someone with a working node drop me a note and help me
> troubleshoot? I seem to have everything loaded, but I can't see the
> workgroup(and they can't see me)

  I'm having the same problems.  (Except my network is Win95/WinNT...)  If
anyone has this working, please post your config info to the list.

  Thanks,
       ... JLS

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long..


><I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I have
to
>wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and this
>PC is running Win CE V101.69!>
>
>No, it will run Linux. WinCE and all the other M$ crap will then be open
>source too.

If in 50 years, any current OS is still in use (albeit in an upgraded form)
I will
be very suprised.  More likely by that time the concept of an OS will be
completely
componentized (or something as of yet un thought of) where users simply mix
and match the components they want to use making all OS's effectively
custom,
but interroperable at the same time.

By that time, radio, cable TV, games, business applications, etc. would all
be
components to 'plug-in' to your computer.  The idea that in 50 years we will
still
be struggling with the concept of multiple incompatible OS's and
applications
not running on EVERYTHING is not a pleasant thought. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com




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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 03:27:18 +0800
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Hi there again!

> > I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I
> have to
> > wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and =
this
> > PC is running Win CE V101.69! From this the government will be able =
to
> > read what I have been and what I took for lunch- when I jump into the
> > buss. With other words- not only the cost of my trip will be deducted,
> > but my whole life syncronized with the government. :)
>
> Egad!!  Now THERE'S a nightmare.  Of course, I'll be 104 - or a lot
> more likely - well past caring about software...   And what's this
> "synchronized with the government"??  What government??  By 2050 there
> won't be any government - just Micro$haft and the "Universal Church of
> Gates".

That's what I mean- in year 2050, Microsoft is our galactic government. =
To
make a very long story short: The 23rd of December year 2012, the earth =
got
it's first contact with ET. A radio astronomor is Denver, Colorado, =
picked
up the first confirmed extraterrestial radio signals the mainkind has
received- at least which is well documented. Same day, a fleet of 6 huge
space ships landed on mother earth. To be more specific- in the shopping
area of New York City. Most of the people there thought it was some kind
of commercial for a new movie. But after a serious incident, NYPD
realized that it was not a commercial and not some kind of joke- but
serious stuff! It's still not clear what happened and why the NYPD
suddenly took the invasion seriously. But some very credible
eyewitnesses told CNN that suddenly a group of 6 "spunky" guys from one
of the space ships walked into a PC shop and did something to a PC in
the display area and suddenly the PC could run the rest of the day
without hanging!

At 7:34 pm, people was convienced that some kind of miracle has appeard
in front of them. Some went crazy, some thought it was the end of the =
world.
Others said, that they have read about it and that it was some ancient
knowledge that was called Linux or DOS or something like that... Anyway,
at 7.48 pm, Bill Gates arrived and was the first human to enter an
alien space ship (at least the first documentet meeting- since it was on
CNN- Live). After 2 hours of silence, Bill came out with a big smile on
his face. The whole world saw it live, but noone could figure out what
happened and why the big smile..

However, one year later- Microsoft annonced that a new version of
Windows should be released- Windows 2012. This version should be much
better than all the earlier versions combined. Now the whole world was
convinced- after all Bill met an alien life form. So Bill must have been
able to learn some very important secrets from them. Secrets such as
keeping an operating system lean and mean. So the Microsoft shares went
up by 2438% and Bill became the "Combined Richest Man" in the world.
This title was invented just before the actual release of Windows 2012-
which actually was end of the year 2014. Anyway, Bill became so rich
that all the knowned fortunes though the history added together was
peanuts compare to what Bill had in pocket money.

The world realized that Windows 2012 was not as good as everyone
thought. It was slow and Intel had to release a Pentium LXXV processor
which was operating at 250,000 MHz. The interesting thing was that some
historians told CNN that they heard about slow processors- in the range
of 33MHz which could run programs from the "old age" faster than the new
LXXV processor could run Windows 2012 in year 2014.

Anyway, to make a very long story shorter- end of year 2014, the truth
was out! Bill Gates didn't get the fantastic alien technology, but he
conviniced the whole Rishaak civilization from the Orion belt, that
Microsoft Windows was the way to go. But it didn't end there. The
Rishaak's had a good contact with the Sneeaile civilization near by
Sirius. And after that noone could stop Micosoft! The decease, sorry
Windows spread quickly throughout the whole galaxy. After 247,124
civilization had encountered this virus, the next galaxy was also
infected with Windows.

Anyway, today when I am writing this it's the year of 2050 and Bill is
as young as before. His speed-of-the-light business trips around the
galaxies keeps him forever young and I have to stop here since I will
soon be picked up by the Billis (former Polis). The PC which is in the
palm of my hand reports directly to Billis if I say anything bad about
Microsoft and I have about 7-9 min before they knock on my door. If I
hurry up, maybe I have time to take a last snack- a bite of my McBill
Burger....

Buy the way, I don't mind to be Windowzzeed and die. Several weel
knowned scientists has figured out that we soon will see the end of the
universe. Windows is everywhere now and the universe is comming to a
reboot- after which everything will start from the biginning-> the Big
Bang once again!

Regards,


Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:44:13 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Why the upset at WinCE?  I doubt many are choosing that crap over the
200lx.  The numbers (4 million users) suggest to me that it is the
PalmPilot that has changed the handheld landscape.  Every article I've
read about CE always asks the same question, "Is THIS the Palm-killer?"
So much for the market blindly following Microsoft's every whim.
(Microsoft has not exactly had their way in the web server software
business either.)

Larry Zimmerman

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              how to carry on? Long..
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Wow... I don't know what Jorgen's on, but I'll have some too! <g>

In regards to Dan's skepticism about OS's in 2050... remember what they said
back in the 60's about 2 digit dates.

- Longden





Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> on 06/25/99 12:27:18 PM

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      on? Long..




Buy the way, I don't mind to be Windowzzeed and die. Several weel
knowned scientists has figured out that we soon will see the end of the
universe. Windows is everywhere now and the universe is comming to a
reboot- after which everything will start from the biginning-> the Big
Bang once again!

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      Hello all,

I have been thinking about recent events and found out, that it
was not H-P who killed the 200LX; all was fate written long ago.

Everyone has a star and when that star falls, he/she dies.
Obviously the HP200LX has its star called space station MIR
(seriff JEFF, can you confirm?) and as the Mir is about to fall
by autumn, there isn't anything H-P could do against fate.

Thus the only way to save the HP DOS palmtop is start
collecting money for Russia to keep the Mir aloft. Should 250 list
members donate half a million US dollars each, the Mir can fly a
whole year longer and thus the LX will survive into the next
millenium. Cheating the fate is not cheap, even the ancient greek
knew this very well (see Delphoi)...

I think we should notify the cosmonauts up there!

                           Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued - Microsoft, etc.


>Why the upset at WinCE?  I doubt many are choosing that crap over the
>200lx.  The numbers (4 million users) suggest to me that it is the
>PalmPilot that has changed the handheld landscape.  Every article I've
>read about CE always asks the same question, "Is THIS the Palm-killer?"
>So much for the market blindly following Microsoft's every whim.
>(Microsoft has not exactly had their way in the web server software
>business either.)

Yep, the palm is by far the most popular handheld out there,  whats
interesting
to me is the 200lx is basically an IBM XT as far as hardware (not size, etc)
goes. and
the Palm Pilots are basically MACs (16mhz 68xxx series processors). Sure the
palm uses a different OS, but its similar in power and UI to a mac.  funny
that the
2 most useful machines (IMO) of the current handheld crop are basically just
condensed
versions of the original Mac and PC which started it all on the desktop. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>
>Larry Zimmerman
>
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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

Hi friends,

has anyone ever tried the program BOOTDMOD.EXE?
It's for changing the cluster size of drives, and it
should even work with CF cards >32MB.

I'm considering if I change the cluster size of my 48MB CF to 1kB or
512 bytes...
But I'd like to know if this program works reliably!

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Haven't used BOOTDMOD, but 1K_Cluster works great on the 100/200LX.

1K_Cluster was designed to re-format flash cards with 1K cluster sizes to
increase storage efficiency. It was written for the HP 100LX, but should work
with the 200LX. Freeware.

HTH


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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:02:50 -0400
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Perhaps it is worth recognizing that what constitutes `a lot'  of
signatures to some might look like `awfully few' to others. It would
be interesting to compare and contrast the notion of what constitutes `a
large group of users' to people expressing opinions here with those
who have decisions to make about investing in hardware and software
development.

My offhand guess is that, on one side, people might say that
`more than 1,000 is a lot' while on the other side people might say
that `less than 10,000 isn't many'. In either case, a few dozen
or even a few hundred probably isn't `many' by anyone's standards...

Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> <<Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
> could change or delay this decision?>>
>
> I don't think it will do much good.  But I can certainly forward an email
> signed by lots of folks.
>
> <<  It would be nice to hear from
> someone at HP as to WHY?!  >>
>
> I think the short answer is not enough sales to continue it.
>
> <<Otherwise, is someone out there plannning on buying a bunch of them and
> reselling them later?  It's certainly a chance, but it would be nice to
> be able to buy a new one later on, if need be, or, I'll save my pennies
> and head for e-bay!>>
>
> We may, but it is very risky.  The profit margins on new palmtops are VERY
> small. Once discontinued, it is often difficult to sell them at normal
> retail prices.  I think our used business should remain strong for sometime
> though.
>

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Ian Butler wrote:
>
...
>
> *ahem* I don't think so.  Also, while honesty in business is good, this
> "brick wall" is artificial.  It is the result of, for whatever reason,
> refusing to realize when a rewrite is needed.  When I write programs, my
> first step is to get a working prototype, however kludged it may be.  Once I
> have that prototype, I sit down and logically map out how the program should
> be written for best efficiency.  Then I scrap the prototype and write the
> release version.  In my view, HV is still a prototype until it is completely
> rewritten inside and out.
>
> ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
>

Interesting point. But also, IMO, wrong. It is also interesting to note
just how many of the computer industry's greatest failures have been on
the `rewrite' of what were thought to be `kludged first systems'.

Since, AFAIK, I haven't ever used any of your systems I cannot speak
about the success of your rewrites. I have seen a lot of major
rewrites, however, in 40 years in the computer business, and I've
seen a lot of situations where people _thought_ they could improve on
their first round of systems, only to face dismal failure of the
re-write.

This is a well-enough established problem in the computer business to be
called: `The Second System Phenemenon', and has fairly evidently
occurred in lots of real-world situations. And a large number of
things thought to be `design improvements' by the authors proved to
be `torpedos that sunk the ship' when finally implemented in the
rewrites.

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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Now, can somebody tell me. How what setting do I need to put in my hv.cfg
> to download from the D&A FTP site without needing a username and password?

All I do is visit the site using http://www.dasoft.com and navigate to
the download areas and highlight what I want to download.

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Been there, done that!

Once I highlight what I want to download, HV shells to FTP then requests for a
username and password.

Can you send me a copy of your ftp line in your hv.cfg.
Also what version of FTP are you using.

Thanks,


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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:42:30 +0100
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> Hmmm - actually I brush mine so they don't rot.  8-)

Do you really believe they would rot if you did not brush them ;-)

Andreas

PS: I brush them too, but I have to admit I don't really know why;
maybe just because I am used to it :-)

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Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:48:18 +0100 (BST)

08h52m31s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:55:47 +0100 (MET), Tony Hutchins wrote:

> I am sure WWW/LX will work with Freeserve. Just use CHAP as script.

Indeed it does. I just registered. They give you all the info you need
online. Any problems, give me a shout Mike.

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A Meshar wrote:

> On 23 Jun 1999 Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:
>
> It is probably punishment because you use such a long sig block! :-)
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
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Yes...it is probably because of the sig...but its gone now...  ;-)

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Does anyone know if the 1000CX is slated for oblivion too?

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long..

> <I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I have to
> wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and this
> PC is running Win CE V101.69!>
>
> No, it will run Linux. WinCE and all the other M$ crap will then be open
> source too.

Microsoft will never be open source for the simple reason that if
anyone actually SAW how badly written the OS was it would be the
laughing stock of the whole planet. :-)

Microsoft might be convinced to give away its OS, especially once
they have added the parts that make it impossible to run anyone elses
programs on it. Then you would HAVE to buy their overpriced apps.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long..

> If in 50 years, any current OS is still in use (albeit in an upgraded form)
> I will
> be very suprised.  More likely by that time the concept of an OS will be
> completely
> componentized (or something as of yet un thought of) where users simply mix
> and match the components they want to use making all OS's effectively
> custom,
> but interroperable at the same time.
>
> By that time, radio, cable TV, games, business applications, etc. would all
> be
> components to 'plug-in' to your computer.  The idea that in 50 years we will
> still
> be struggling with the concept of multiple incompatible OS's and
> applications
> not running on EVERYTHING is not a pleasant thought. :)
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com

Boy are you a dreamer. :-)

Cars have been around a darn site longer than 50 years and they are
still all different. Look at the number of oil filters that the
average parts store carries for a good example. There is no MONEY in
standardization, the only way to make money is to make your product
different. Do you really think that whoever is selling computer
software in 50 years will like it if you don't buy their part but buy
somebody elses? Look at the market now, a new version of an OS comes
out and there is a good chance that some of your old programs will no
longer run, but there will be new versions for the new OS that you
can buy, for more money of course.

Pete


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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> For not ever having seen HV's source (AFAIK), and not participating in the
> Beta, and not being on the "inside" of much of the info regarding D&A and HV
> you sure tell things like they are facts. They are not. You are wrong
> factually.

I could not even begin to presume what goes on in Beta or between you and
Andreas.  However, it becomes immediately evident how kludged HV is just by
using it.  I borrowed a copy of WWW/LX several months ago in order to try it
out, and I was continually plagued with bizarre "indexing errors" and cache
problems from the outset.  It becomes clear even to the lowliest of
progammers (such as myself) that however the program was written, it was not
consistent or efficient internally.  The browser's goals (assuming that the
goal was being able to browse) are good, but the lack of EMS support, the
bizarre errors, and the fact that it has about it more than the *air* of a
kludge, bugs me.  One would be hard put to say with any truth that better
internal design wouldn't fix a lot of that.

> Your view of whatever HV is, is, at best myopic and terribly
> incomplete. Sorry, Ian, but you really have no idea what you speak of. But at
> least you say it well :-) ...

I am sure you are right to some extent, but perhaps it's an outsider's view
that is needed.  I can't pretend that I could write something like HV, but I
can be reasonably sure that I wouldn't write something like HV was written.
I could provide a logical program design chart if you're interested,
however.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
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Subject:      Re: Casio CE300

> I found inforamtion on using the CE300 digital camera with the IBM PC110
> Palmtop (I've decided that one of these pc110's will be my lx 'replacement'
> (well not really replacement; bigger, heavier, less battery life, less
> durable -> I'm sure I'll still be using my trusty 100lx!)) at
> http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/ce300.htm
>
> It seems that this camera's pcmcia interface and software make use of card &
> socket services drivers, which (I dont think) are provided on the 100/200lx.
> Use of this camera would require specialised drivers to be written (not
> impossible, but very tricky).
>
> Tim Pitman
>

I don't know if the camera card made for the Sharp's is the same as
the one made by Canon for the PC110. They are similar but don't look
exactly alike. Either way, I agree that it probably would not work in
the HP given its rather limited pcmcia slot.

Pete

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> Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:
>
> I think DOS command line execution was a requirement
> or preference as the original poster already had a
> GUI that did the job.  I think both of our solutions
> only mimic his GUI at best.
>
> -----
>
> After Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:
>
> In 1-2-3, just delete the columns you don't want to
> distribute (evidently, the required output differs
> from day to day) use the /Print File option, then DO
> NOT SAVE THE FILE.
>
> Problem solved (or else I misunderstood it -- which is
> a distinct possibility.)


This is pretty much what I do now.  If I can't
manipulate the *.wk1 file directly, I would like to
export the *.wk1 file once after updates are complete,
then manipulate that file to whatever output I need.

BTW, I used my desktop computer to open the *.wk1 file,
then save it as a *.csv file (text & commas).  That
allowed me to import it into the palmtop database.

Unfortunately, I can't share the information.  I keep
the *.wk1 file on the palmtop as a backup, so that is
what I am hoping to use in parts.

Kat
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long..


>> If in 50 years, any current OS is still in use (albeit in an upgraded
form)
>> I will
>> be very suprised.  More likely by that time the concept of an OS will be
>> completely
>> componentized (or something as of yet un thought of) where users simply
mix
>> and match the components they want to use making all OS's effectively
>> custom,
>> but interroperable at the same time.
>>
>> By that time, radio, cable TV, games, business applications, etc. would
all
>> be
>> components to 'plug-in' to your computer.  The idea that in 50 years we
will
>> still
>> be struggling with the concept of multiple incompatible OS's and
>> applications
>> not running on EVERYTHING is not a pleasant thought. :)
>>
>> Dan
>> driden@stlnet.com
>
>Boy are you a dreamer. :-)

yes and no.

>
>Cars have been around a darn site longer than 50 years and they are
>still all different.

Yep, but you really can't compare the auto industry to computers.  Actually
its
kind of fun to try, and is the source of alot of M$ as your car's OS jokes,
but
for the most part Cars are a completely different beast.

>Look at the number of oil filters that the
>average parts store carries for a good example.

Yep, if cars were like computers there would be an ISA oil filter slot,
although it
would be VESA LB or PCI on newer faster cars. hehe.

>There is no MONEY in
>standardization, the only way to make money is to make your product
>different.  Do you really think that whoever is selling computer
>software in 50 years will like it if you don't buy their part but buy
>somebody elses? Look at the market now, a new version of an OS comes
>out and there is a good chance that some of your old programs will no
>longer run, but there will be new versions for the new OS that you
>can buy, for more money of course.

This has actually been getting better with each release.  For example most
Win3.x
apps run fine under Win95, more win95 apps run under Win98, etc.  Although I
think
this will hit a snag with Win 2k but thats another story.

While the companies need ongoing cash flow which is currently supplied by
upgrades,
in a 'componentized' world all your computer software, entertainment, etc.
services would
be subscription based and delivered via the global net (higher bandwidth
internet).  So
instead of paying to upgrade your os and reinstalling it, and your apps,
etc. you would
subscribe to the things you wanted for example, M$ Word,  VIE (virtual
Internet explorer),
HBO,  CNN, etc. and they would all auto deduct their subscription fees by
use or by
month as each provider decided.

Cars havent changed nearly as fast as computers, but the computer industry
shows little
signs of slowing down, if anything things will move at a faster pace.  IMO.
In this model
eventually the 'core' os will become an open-source (or similar) free
product so everyone
can brand it how they wish, etc.  so a home theater system for example could
include the
core OS, and components for DVD,  internet video feeds, etc.  or those
'components'
could be sold as a subscription service.   remember 50 years ago paper tape
was a
really revolutionary IO device for computers.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Pete
>
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.

> The one thing i dont like is microsoft (Bill Gates) ordered he engineers to
> install viruses in other operating systems other than IBM PCs there is proof
> of that!!! to corner an already leading market  greed huh?
>

Oh boy, did someone forget to take their lithium today? :-)

Pete

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.


>> The one thing i dont like is microsoft (Bill Gates) ordered he engineers
to
>> install viruses in other operating systems other than IBM PCs there is
proof
>> of that!!! to corner an already leading market  greed huh?
>>
>
>Oh boy, did someone forget to take their lithium today? :-)

LOL.   As long as were going into M$ underhanded tactics, my favorite is the
very public attitude when Win 3 was out that that the future was OS/2 that
they
were developing with IBM.  Most of the industry was duped here, and while
they
were working on Lotus 1-2-3 for OS/2, and Wordperfect for OS/2 etc.  M$ was
working on Windows 95, Excel for Windows, Word for Windows, etc. and when
they launched Windows with all their apps...

1. It caught on, and was popular.
2. M$ dropped their relationship with IBM
3. Most of the other vendors were left a good 12-18 months behind.
4. OS/2 was looked at as something cast off by M$ and never caught on.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Pete
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
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<<If they still do their manufacturing as I
saw in Corvallis years ago, they have to break down the 200 assembly
line, put up the 680 (or other) assembly line.  Then take down the 680,
and put up the 200.  If they can't sell enough 200's anymore, they
probably don't think the effort is worth it.>>

Actually, I believe they subcontract 200LX and 1000CX manufacturing
somewhere in Malaysia.

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Hear - Hear.
I totally agree with Roger Feinman.
We do have to voice our opinions to the HP in a coordinated manner.

Ales Bourek

-----------original mail from Roger------------------
HP may turn its back on a sizable installed user base, and on millions of
DOS
users around the world who may not have been adequately exposed to the
palmtop platform due to poor promotion by HP....
Although I feel hypocritical about it -- because the 200LX is hardly the
only
HP product I own -- if they in fact intend the demise of this platform then
I
will never patronize them again.  .....
I don't have to funnel money into an outfit that disrespects both its
customers and aftermarket vendors, notably those who helped "spread the
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For those who asked, the shop is:
Shyamtronics, 246 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1P 9AD
Tel: 0171-637 1961

The very helpful chap I talked to was called Kish.

Just looked at the bill again; I paid =A3364.25 incl VAT, but I
didn't haggle, I was just pleased that someone could still get
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I'm getting my AP News off the web and reading it via HV (using LXTCP & HTGET).
 I have written a basic app that automates most of the process but I would like
to take it a step further.  What it comes down to is that I have an HTML form
with multiple check boxes (20-30) each specifying a news story.  I select the
stories I want to read and POST the results to POST.DAT.  The output looks like
this.

foobar07&foobar08&off&foobar10&off&

My question is, what would be the best (small & fast) util that could process
this string into a custom output (batch file).  I may just need to do it in
basic but if there is a better way...

Don.

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> I am sure WWW/LX will work with Freeserve. Just use CHAP as script.

Thank you! It does work with Freeserve and also the free ISP
that I use, "Marvellous" Madasafish. The trick is to use CHAP.

> I quite like Demon. Great telephone support. Will cost a tenner a month
> though.

The reason I like Madasafish (apart from the price) is that
they've been fast and reliable, and allegedly give you a
tenner if you use them for 24hrs in one month! I'm not
their marketing director, just a happy non-paying customer;
check out www.madasafish.com for details.

Thanks again,

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Great!  How big is it? If it's more then 30k then I think I'll go with BASIC
and compile it all in one file.  What is xgrep.com? and could this be used?

I dont have a problem posting the code, but I dont have time to support it.

Don


 -----Original Message-----
  No question...  The most direct way would be to use Perl 4.  I believe a
copy exists on SUPER that works on the LX.  If you need help coming up with
the Perl script to do this, drop me a note.

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Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:12:49 +0100 (BST)

52m40s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:20:09 -0700 (CST), Ian Butler wrote:

> I borrowed a copy of WWW/LX several months ago in order to try it
> out, and I was continually plagued with bizarre "indexing errors" and cache
> problems from the outset.

Sounds like it was not set up correctly. I recommend to try it again
Ian!

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qman@EARTHLINK.NET Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:
> Can you send me a copy of your ftp line in your hv.cfg.
> Also what version of FTP are you using.

I suggest to *delete* that line. HV has support for ftp download
built-in.

If you prefer to use FTP.EXE, use "ftp" or "anonymous" as your login
and your email address as the password.

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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> >I cannot be productive if I have to "copy and paste"
> >an umlaut into a text instead of pressing a key (combination) to enter
> >it.
>
> Is this in all versions of CE?

I don't know. I am not that familiar with that toy-system. After having
a look at the first versions, I decided to spend my time on more
promising things.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I added in the WWW.CFG in the PPP_ISP section "FIFO=1" and
> "HTTP_PROXY=proxy.zrz.tu-berlin.de:8080".
>
> Could that be the reason?

I suspect the proxy supports HTTP 1.1 and thus will do fancy things
with the requests of the latest WWW.EXE. I suggest to remove the proxy
line until a version of WWW.EXE that fixes this problem becomes
available.

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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Now, can somebody tell me. How what setting do I need to put in my hv.cfg
> to download from the D&A FTP site without needing a username and password?

All I do is visit the site using http://www.dasoft.com and navigate to
the download areas and highlight what I want to download.

    -------------------------- Reply Separator ---------------------------


My problem with downloading from the D&A ftp site with WWW/LX & HV has been
resloved.

I just had to comment out the ftp line in my hv.cfg.

;ftp=a:\hv\ftp.exe %s

It appears WWW/LX has built-in ftp support without ftp.exe, and thats new to
me.

To think that all of this time I'v been using my desktop for downloading from
D&A. Today is a great day for downloading. (:-¨



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> From: Donald Collins Ýmailto:dcollins@TRENDX.COM¨

> The output looks like this.
>
> foobar07&foobar08&off&foobar10&off&
>
> My question is, what would be the best (small & fast) util
> that could process this string into a custom output (batch
> file).  I may just need to do it in basic but if there is
> a better way...

  No question...  The most direct way would be to use Perl 4.  I believe a
copy exists on SUPER that works on the LX.  If you need help coming up with
the Perl script to do this, drop me a note.

    ... JLS

  PS:  Sounds like a great use of HV and the other apps.  When you've got it
finished, would you be willing to share the finished package?  (Minus WWW/LX
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

> While the companies need ongoing cash flow which is currently supplied by
> upgrades,
> in a 'componentized' world all your computer software, entertainment, etc.
> services would
> be subscription based and delivered via the global net (higher bandwidth
> internet).  So
> instead of paying to upgrade your os and reinstalling it, and your apps,
> etc. you would
> subscribe to the things you wanted for example, M$ Word,  VIE (virtual
> Internet explorer),
> HBO,  CNN, etc. and they would all auto deduct their subscription fees by
> use or by
> month as each provider decided.
>

Actually that is an idea that M$ would probably love. Instead of
hoping that you will pay for an upgrade and a new program just force
it on you and remove the money from your bank account directly. :-)
Yep, that one would go over big with old Billy boy. So in your future
we all get stuck with whatever they wnt to give us and we get
upgraded even if we don't want to, similar to the current state of
the cable industry. With cable you get the channels they want you to
have, where they want them and when they want them. If they decide
that something needs upgrading you pay for it, regardless of if you
wanted it upgraded. This doesn't sound like a future that I want to
be stuck with. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Writing letters to HP and asking them to continue production is a waste of
time, IMHO.  If we can't help HP to increase sales we need the next best thing.
 That would be for HP to incorporate much of the 200LX's funtionality into one
of the current palmtop models.

I for one don't _LOVE_ DOS, I just need stability, speed, functionality, and
compatibility in a small package.  If a WinCE device can be changed to have
this, I'll vote for it with my $'s.

Don.


>
> Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
> could change or delay this decision?

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if you want to sell it try this list
M100@onelist.com
they are for M100 only.
regards
Alain
>
> If someone really wants a TRS100, I have one in excellent condition. Make
> me an offer that I can't refuse. This unit has the manuals, the 2 tilt
> rods, and carrying case. I am the second owner (the first owner bought it
> and couldn't figure out what to do with it).
>
> Please reply off-list.
>


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Nah, let's be nasty, rotten, miserable, and vindictive about this.  Let's
lord it over the entire Web all the software we can run and all the things
that we can do with the palmtop that others can't do with their $900 address
books.

-roger-

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>The consumers today are not like us- which loves
>to sit and "hack" and and try different programs, solutions and
>settings. The consumer of today wants a device as a productivity tool and
>they are not interested in "hacking". They just want to use it directly
>out of the box. It's sad, but it's true.


Ah, a Jimmy Carter fan!  Blame the people for not being as smart as this
so-called elite minority.  Well, Jorgen, as much as I respect the work you've
done as a palmtop booster, I have to disagree with your premises and your
logic.

While I too like to try new things, most of my work on the HP palmtop is
quite conventionally productive (i.e., "dull").  I have used it to write and
edit lengthy and complex documents -- complex in terms of multiple series of
footnotes and endnotes, cross-references, tables of contents, tables of
authority (i.e., bibliographical references) -- then run grammar- and
spell-checks before printing them out.  I can't do that on WinCE.  I have
used it to maintain and search through large textbases with either askSAM or
Inmagic Plus.  No can do, Jornada.  I have used it for project planning with
real project management software (Timeline, MS-Project).  ÝJornada:
Whereisit?¨  I have drawn organization charts and process flowcharts with it.
 I have used it for time-recording (Jornada, yes) and generating, then
editing, bills (Jornada, No).  I have used it to store tidbits (random facts,
fleeting thoughts, new must-do's) in either InfoSelect or Lotus Agenda
because they don't quite fit anywhere else.  I have used it in the past to
log onto and explore CompuServe, Westlaw, and Lexis/Nexis, especially when I
needed to find information in a big hurry and a laptop was either unavailable
or inconvenient.  Of course, I could go on, but none of these activities are
especially extraordinary, unless you take into account that I could do all
these things on the 100/200LX machines themselves.

Years ago, when I bought an Apple //e, and then my first IBM-compatible, and
then my first laptop, I didn't buy these things expecting only to use them
for contact lists, prioritizing to-do's, and playing solitaire, although
these capabilities were certainly attractive.  Neither were these products
sold with such mundane tasks set in the forefront of their marketing
campaigns.  (To be fair, some marketers did assume early on that people would
be mainly interested in little more than receiving weather, stock quotes, and
sports scores from an online service.)

Will purchasers of the Jornadas or other WinCE devices need to blame
themselves when the powers-that-be decide someday that even these toys are
too sophisticated for the masses?

Except for basic connectivity, neither Microsoft nor HP have built into their
WinCE gizmos the capability to do real, self-sufficient, self-contained work,
let alone produce a finished product.  Their extremely condescending idea
seems to be that the corporate, networked desktop environment is primary, and
all we want or need in a handheld computer (where that term is used loosely)
is the ability to tap into e-mail, stock quotes, sports scores or weather
from a hotel or board room, to casually review a spreadsheet but not try to
get too fancy with it, or to tap out a simple memo to the boss.  Light
software for light minds and light responsibilities.

You're dead wrong.  They failed.  They failed to educate consumers, and they
failed to respect a very large and loyal installed base of users.  Microsoft
does share the blame for foisting the adoption of its crippleware PDA/OS
("Jupiter", indeed), when they could  just as easily have given us both DOS
and Win compatibility.  And they did this solely to force people to
continually spend more and more money, nothing else.  If big business and the
general consuming public are to blame at all,it is for acquiescing like lambs
in a sustained pattern of planned obsolesence that puts the auto industry in
the Detroit of yesteryear to shame and disgrace.  Those nerds on the West
Coast have proven themselves to be vampires.  First, they mastered the art of
the annual software upgrade: asking people to pay not once, but again and
again, and still put up with unresolved bugs in the same package.  Then they
learned how to play the hardware upgrade game.   Now, they cast aside whole
operating systems and their paraphernalia.  Learned one programming language?
 Here, we have another for you.  Don't know what to do with the pile of
obsolete stuff bulging out of your closet?  There's E-Bay.

Now, someone might argue, this is the price we must pay if we wish to stay
current with the cutting edge of technology and foster the growth of an
industry.  That argument is not without merit.  But at some point the idea of
consumer protection ought to come into play, especially when users are
encouraged to become dependent upon devices such as these.  Think of the
billions that are being spent worldwide on fixing the Y2K problem.  Think of
the hundreds or even thousands of dollars that some users have invested in HP
palmtop computing.  We are not discussing a $100 (U.S.) peripheral device, or
even one orphaned software program, but something on a larger scale.

I am beginning to wonder whether there ought to be legislation in the United
States requiring any OEM of a new computer system or a new operating system
to provide or otherwise assure the availability of customer support for that
product for a minimum number of years following its introduction -- even
beyond the expiration of any warranties provided by contract or by operation
of law -- including replacement parts, repair service, BIOS software fixes,
etc.  This would not extend warranties, nor would it require the manufacturer
to provide upgrades, but it would, in effect, mandate a product's life cycle
and allow both OEMs and their customers to share explicitly stated
expectations about how long a customer may legitimately expect to enjoy a
supported product before he is "on his own."

However, the Jornada and its kin are exactly like gun control -- disarming
the public, feeding them Soma pills, and taking both power and responsibility
out of the hands of individuals, centralizing them with trusted authority.
The pretty interface is merely the Orwellean enticement to the whole thing.
Probably no one will ever require you to own and use a WinCE PDA, but you
will want it, you will want it, you will want it .  . . . .  Guaranteed.
Someday, the Hornet chips in our LX palmtops will begin to fail, replacements
will be scarce, and we will all tearfully chuck our favorite software titles
and succumb.

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In a message dated 6/25/99 11:58:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jorgen@PALMTOP.NET writes:

> I wouldn't be surprised if in year 2050 (when I am 87 years old), I have to
>  wear a small PC which is placed underneath the skin of my palm and this
>  PC is running Win CE V101.69! From this the government will be able to
>  read what I have been and what I took for lunch- when I jump into the
>  buss. With other words- not only the cost of my trip will be deducted,
>  but my whole life syncronized with the government. :)

We already have something like this in New York City and Washington, D.C.
They call it the Metrocard.  But I'll bet you always knew you were 50 years
ahead of your time.

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In a message dated 6/25/1999 04:05:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU writes:

> Should 250 list members donate half a million US dollars each, the Mir can
fly a
>  whole year longer and thus the LX will survive into the next millenium.

I can't contribute, but I'll be happy to hold the funds 'til all 250
contributions come in.

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In a message dated 6/25/1999 05:23:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, katd@CWIX.COM
writes:

>
>  BTW, I used my desktop computer to open the *.wk1 file,
>  then save it as a *.csv file (text & commas).  That
>  allowed me to import it into the palmtop database.
>
Are you aware of 123DLM that will allow you to directly import and export
.csv format to 123, on the palmtop?  It works great for me.  Maybe it will
save a step.

I think I found it on S.U.P.E.R., but if it isn't there I can send it off
list.  Its freeware, and the .zip is about 6K.

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Regarding parts: Hal, on this, please see my post in reply to Jorgen.

Yeah, HP may have started an upswing in WinCE sales.  When they offer free
luggage and free software to go with it, why not?  Even so, in my random and
unscientific forays into the computer stores, I have yet to personally
witness a live human being buying a Jornada handheld.  They look, they
fondle, they confer, but they don't buy.

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long..

> Regarding parts: Hal, on this, please see my post in reply to Jorgen.
>
> Yeah, HP may have started an upswing in WinCE sales.  When they offer free
> luggage and free software to go with it, why not?  Even so, in my random and
> unscientific forays into the computer stores, I have yet to personally
> witness a live human being buying a Jornada handheld.  They look, they
> fondle, they confer, but they don't buy.
>
> -roger-

Well, if seeing one sold is any proof then there has NEVER been any
hp200lx's sold, since I have never seen one sold. :-)


Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Does anyone know if the Borland C++ v. 4.52 software will run on the HP200LX?

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              Help!
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> -----Original Message-----
> Dan Sommer
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 1:40 PM
> Help!
> The HP 200LX Users guide (page 3-21) outlines the process of removing
> appointments from the Week and Month views.  I've tried the
> process but the
> options seem to have no effect on my week and month views - any body else
> have this problem?

Dan,

I must admit that I haven't even read the manual. I tried to have something
not show in week and month views and it worked just fine.

What I did was to remove the checks from week and month in the views area of
the appointment. This takes care of a single item. For the global method I
went to Options and Appointment Defaults, removed the check marks from Week
View Appointments and Events and then to Month View....etc. New appointments
will no longer show, existing appointments will have to be edited, it's not
retroactive.

Hope this helps



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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In a message dated 6/25/1999 09:04:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Feinmanr@AOL.COM writes:

>  I have used it to write and edit lengthy and complex documents -- complex
in terms of multiple series of footnotes and endnotes, cross-references,
tables of contents, tables of  authority (i.e., bibliographical references)
-- then run grammar- and  spell-checks before printing them out.

Roger, do you think that one in a hundred PalmPilot users could do that on
the sexiest new Pentium Desk Top ?  Remember, 9 out of 10 VCR clocks are
blinking 12:00 as we speak.

This is why palmpilots are taking over the world.  They are an excuse to buy
a Game Boy -- or even to get your boss to buy you one.

My guess is that a few years ago an engineer at HP wanted a toy like the 95LX
badly enough to convince HP to make it.  When it was a success, they promoted
him, and he got the 100 and 200 as rewards.  Then he retired, and the guy who
was promoted into his job was not a techno type.  In fact, he couldn't spell
DOS.  He knew that no one ever got fired for going with the name brand, so he
recommended updating to Windows instead of upgrading the ancient 200LX
design.  The rest is history.

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In a message dated 6/25/99 9:26:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Cavendishl@AOL.COM writes:

> Roger, do you think that one in a hundred PalmPilot users could do that on
>  the sexiest new Pentium Desk Top ?  Remember, 9 out of 10 VCR clocks are
>  blinking 12:00 as we speak.

Whoa, Lynn!  I never said I could program a VCR!  Now, that's a toughie.

>  My guess is that a few years ago an engineer at HP wanted a toy like the
> 95LX
>  badly enough to convince HP to make it.  When it was a success, they
> promoted
>  him, and he got the 100 and 200 as rewards.  Then he retired, and the guy
> who
>  was promoted into his job was not a techno type.  In fact, he couldn't
spell
>  DOS.  He knew that no one ever got fired for going with the name brand, so
> he
>  recommended updating to Windows instead of upgrading the ancient 200LX
>  design.  The rest is history

If only he had recommended upgrading to Windows, instead of WinCE.  But
actually, I liked the one about Bill Gates planting secret viruses in
everybody's computers.  Now THAT's a conspiracy theory.

-roger-

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>I don't recommend it unless you have experience soldering around surface
>mount components.

How busy are you? I have a CASIO QV-11 camera that the darn on/off switch
separated from it's connectors. It is has eight surface mount contacts. I
solder like I paint. (sloppy and heavy)
Any chance you could look at this?

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> Does anyone know if the Borland C++ v. 4.52 software will run on the HP200LX?

Nope. The latest version of BCC/TCC to run on the LX is version 2.0 (or
possibly a version 2.x, where x>0, if such a version was ever released)


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Can't say for sure, but I'd be startled if Borland v4 + didn't
require more than an 80186... IIRC last version to run was <3 ...
Don E. Weatherly wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the Borland C++ v. 4.52 software will run on the HP200LX?
>

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To All:

For those wanting to buy a spare copy of our favorite box, J&R Computers in
New York City, an authorized HP dealership, seems to get regular shipments of
brand new ones.  They sell for $579 exclusive of S/H, and come bundled with a
free copy of Transfile Win200, and a 30-day trial copy of Puma's Intellisync.
 (There is a crack available for this somewhere on the Web which will convert
the trial copy to a full copy; Puma seems no longer to sell).  More
importantly, the package is bundled with an HP serial cable, and it's always
nice to have a spare of that.  They have a website:

http://www.jandr.com

I have no connection with this outfit, plus other disclaimers uttered at warp
speed as on the radio commercials.

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> The UART of the palmtop does not support buffering. The UARTs of most
...
>
> > Is there some reason it is not a default?
>
> It always works with FIFO=0. I don't know if some modems might provide
> a problem with FIFO=1.

Anyone using an external modem via the serial port, like I do,
should not use the alternate setting because we rely on the HP's
UART.  It is safer to make users turn a feature on rather than
expecting them to know when to turn it off.

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In a message dated 6/25/1999 09:50:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Feinmanr@AOL.COM writes:

> If only he had recommended upgrading to Windows, instead of WinCE.

Sadly, he didn't know the difference.

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Hi Hal

Friday, June 25, 1999, you wrote:

HG> My understanding (which I give about 70% credibility too) is that big HP
HG> customers have expressed displeasure to HP about discontinuing the 200LX.
HG> That is why I urge anyone on the list whose company is a big HP customer to
HG> contact as high a level an HP person as possible and object to discontinuing
HG> the 200LX.

Hey, it worked for Star Trek (for a while)<g>.


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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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There have been numerous emails about what features people wanted added to
their HP200LX; e.g., backlit screen.  The newest HP WinCE machines have
some of these features, only real problem is they have WinCE instead of DOS.

Sounds like we need an email campaign to encourage HP to produce a DOS
version of their current high-end plmtops.  Maybe that would be easier for
them than to continue producing the HP200LX.

Perhaps we should also let them know what realistic features we would like
in a palmtop.

================
At 02:32 PM 6/25/99 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:
>Writing letters to HP and asking them to continue production is a waste of
>time, IMHO.  If we can't help HP to increase sales we need the next best
thing.
> That would be for HP to incorporate much of the 200LX's funtionality into
one
>of the current palmtop models.
>
>I for one don't _LOVE_ DOS, I just need stability, speed, functionality, and
>compatibility in a small package.  If a WinCE device can be changed to have
>this, I'll vote for it with my $'s.
>
>Don.
>
>
>>
>> Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
>> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
>> could change or delay this decision?
>
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Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>

"Don E. Weatherly writes:
> Does anyone know if the Borland C++ v. 4.52 software will run on the HP200LX?

The latest version of Borland C++ to run on the palmtop is 2.0 (also
the same version for Borland C).


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Actually, I Microhack is developing a way to lease software online.  The
software wont even be running on your desktop, but on a remote server.  The
line between desktop & internet will become blurred.  Of course we will all
have 24/7 connections at LAN speeds.  This will kill piracy and create regular
cash flow for MS.  Not a joke.

Don.


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Actually that is an idea that M$ would probably love. Instead of
hoping that you will pay for an upgrade and a new program just force
it on you and remove the money from your bank account directly. :-)

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Subject:      Re: BOOTDMOD
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>

Don't know much about BOOTDMOD.EXE, but, you can use W98 to format a CF card
with smaller clusters than the default.  I read details on that information
here late last year or early this year.  The function of the FORMAT command
is an undocumented feature of the DOS under W98.  (It didn't work for me
under W95 using my PC at work.)

The required syntax at the DOS prompt is FORMAT X: /z#   where:
X is the drive letter, and
# is the number of 512 byte segments per cluster.

On my 64Mb Sandisk card I can only get it to format in 4K byte clusters.  I
read somewhere on the list that the minimum cluster size is dependent upon
the size of the drive and the total number of clusters DOS can access.  The
larger the drive, the larger the clusters have to be.

I've found from experience that using smaller cluster sizes does increase
the storage capacity but at the cost of some speed degradation.  Smaller
clusters means more places the drive has to go and get a file to load and
execute.  The larger the file, the more fragmented the file, and the more
places the DOS has to look to read the entire file or program.

There's a fine line to be understood and there are tradeoffs to small and
large cluster sizes.  Look at your own files and measure the average size.
Look and see if you have a whole bunch of small files and only a relatively
few larger files. If you have a significant number of small files, smaller
clusters may be an advantage for disk space savings. If you have a whole lot
of large files and programs, then larger clusters will actually waste less
space overall and speed up your disk access.

I've not quantified these experiences, but, I have formatted my 64Mb Sandisk
to various cluster sizes and have observed differences in file access speed
on my 200LX.  In the end, I've settled for space savings over speed. The
HP200LX is such a slow machine (compared to more recent desktop machines)
that improvements on speed are of little consequence. However, storage space
on the palmtop is a premium and I have lots of small files on my palmtop.

Hope This Helps!

paul_stratton@email.msn.com

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From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 10:38 AM
Subject: BOOTDMOD


>Hi friends,
>
>has anyone ever tried the program BOOTDMOD.EXE?
>It's for changing the cluster size of drives, and it
>should even work with CF cards >32MB.
>
>I'm considering if I change the cluster size of my 48MB CF to 1kB or
>512 bytes...
>But I'd like to know if this program works reliably!
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
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>
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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:28:18 -0400
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IMO, not very practical. Since current WinCEs all run on non 80xxx
processors, emulation would almost surely be needed to do a decent
DOS. So far the 80xxx emulation I have seen on WinCEs has run no faster
than a snail in molasses.

It would be nice to forget the reasons that the 200 is sort of down
a Cul de Sac on Development Boulevard. But the reasons are still real,
and reasonably binding. If they weren't, HP would likely have continued
development of the 200 line, and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The 80186 was an unusually powerful machine for its equally unusual low
power consumption. Virtually every step later in the development of
PDAs has increased (internal) power at the cost of burning up more
batteries. It is difficult, if not impossible, to change one part
of the current design without dramatically changing other parts.
Small marginal, incremental improvements generally aren't possible.

If you start to change something, then the fun begins. What you regard
as important and realistic, I regard as unimportant and vice versa... So
when it's time to  compromise, we'd all make different compromises.

Every time HP does something, there is a lot of `let's make a list
of the features we want and tell HP' talk. You'll find lots of it
in DejaNews. For a recent example of how much good it does, take a
look at the debate about the HP49 that passes thru comp.sys.hp48
Old time HP48 users have virtually staged a `revolution' because their
expressed wishes appear to have been completely neglected by HP.
But it apparently not only did the original discussions do no good,
all of this talk of revolution is even dying down, and in a month or so
we'll be able to buy the 49, and then realistically evaluate whether the
HP design team did a good job or not.

Don E. Weatherly wrote:
>
> There have been numerous emails about what features people wanted added to
> their HP200LX; e.g., backlit screen.  The newest HP WinCE machines have
> some of these features, only real problem is they have WinCE instead of DOS.
>
> Sounds like we need an email campaign to encourage HP to produce a DOS
> version of their current high-end plmtops.  Maybe that would be easier for
> them than to continue producing the HP200LX.
>
> Perhaps we should also let them know what realistic features we would like
> in a palmtop.
>

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:55:09 -0300
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Manuals in english for this ??

 http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:58:23 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Writing letters to HP and asking them to continue production is a waste of
> time, IMHO.  If we can't help HP to increase sales we need the next best thing.
>  That would be for HP to incorporate much of the 200LX's funtionality into one
> of the current palmtop models.

Until Win-ce allows me to set an appt for a different time zone by just
setting the appt and not worrying about the time in that distance place,
I will protest!!!!  I don't want to have to reset my system to another
City while I'm still home, then set an appt, then set the system back
to my home.   I still can't fathom that system at all. (G)

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:27:36 EDT
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              David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Ultimate Upgraded HP DOS Palmtop

There are more faults in the the HP WinCE machines than just the
operating system. The multitude of small covers that come off when you
carry one in your pocket. I have never had a 200lx lose pieces in my
pocket.

David Peterson

On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:30:59 +0000 "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
writes:
>There have been numerous emails about what features people wanted
>added to
>their HP200LX; e.g., backlit screen.  The newest HP WinCE machines
>have
>some of these features, only real problem is they have WinCE instead
>of DOS.
>
>Sounds like we need an email campaign to encourage HP to produce a DOS
>version of their current high-end plmtops.  Maybe that would be easier
>for
>them than to continue producing the HP200LX.
>
>Perhaps we should also let them know what realistic features we would
>like
>in a palmtop.

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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:07:50 -0800
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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:

qman@EARTHLINK.NET Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:
> Can you send me a copy of your ftp line in your hv.cfg.
> Also what version of FTP are you using.

I suggest to *delete* that line. HV has support for ftp download
built-in.

If you prefer to use FTP.EXE, use "ftp" or "anonymous" as your login
and your email address as the password.


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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:33:13 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Ah, a Jimmy Carter fan!  Blame the people for not being as smart as =
this
> so-called elite minority.  Well, Jorgen, as much as I respect the work =
you've
> done as a palmtop booster, I have to disagree with your premises and =
your
> logic.

Hmm- interesting! Some people always wants to turn everything to
political statements. I am just trying to figure out why people wants to
blame Microsoft and HP. If noone bought Windows 95/98/NT or Windows CE-
there wouldn't be a huge market for it. No market-> no product. Plain and
simple. But if you want to open a company and sell a product there is
not market for- please go ahead and we shall see how long you will
survive.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:04:22 +0930
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              Peter Caldwell <peter.caldwell@TREASURY.NT.GOV.AU>
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Mitch

There seems to be something wrong with the setup on the old archives
site "http://www.palmtop.net/hp-archive/ghindex.html"  When tyring to
search using the Glimpse HTTP Search tool, I get the following error
message:

"Glimpse not found

This gateway relies on Glimpse search tool. If it is installed, please
set the correct path in the script file. Otherwise obtain the latest
version
from ftp.cs.arizona.edu"

Especially in these trying times (HP200LX to be discontinued), I am sure
many would regret losing search features to this archive.

Regards

Peter Caldwell
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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 07:13:50 EDT
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In a message dated 6/26/99 4:33:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jorgen@PALMTOP.NET writes:

> I am just trying to figure out why people wants to
>  blame Microsoft and HP.

Then let me help you.

> If noone bought Windows 95/98/NT or Windows CE-
>  there wouldn't be a huge market for it. No market-> no product. Plain and
>  simple. But if you want to open a company and sell a product there is
>  not market for- please go ahead and we shall see how long you will
>  survive.

There wasn't a market for this stuff to begin with.  THEY (HP, Microsoft)
created the market.  They created the demand.  How many software titles were
written and sold for Windows versions 1 and 2, which hardly rose to the
"proof of concept" level?  If people had been clamoring for Macintosh
interfaces, then I suppose that Apple would never have run into trouble, and
this would be either the Newton or the Palm discussion group.  Whoever asked
for an 80Mb operating system, or one that would take up the better part of a
1 Gb hard drive?  Where was the demand for a DOS palmtop circa 1990, except
among techies and sci fi fans.?

Of course there appears to be no *future* for the HP palmtop.  When there is
little in the way of commercial development of DOS software, and the market
is limited to those people who had the foresight to hang onto their existing
DOS software rather than follow the trend by chucking it altogether, it
becomes an increasingly tough sell.  But that doesn't mean that, so long as
desktop machines can still run DOS, there isn't "a market" that could be
developed.  Even now, if a DOS palmtop were bundled with a CD-ROM package
such as Thaddeus' excellent, unequaled, and unparalleled CD Infobase, it
would offer more than the other handhelds. My point is, as with politics and
the stock market these days, the public doesn't call the shots.  It's the
"marketmakers" who rule.  We're just spectators and pawns.

-roger-

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:16:38 +0800
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              Hermann Michael Blum <hmblum@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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One aspect I have been missing in this discussion so far: HPLX users want a
replacement for their palmtops if out of order (and appreciate an
enhancement coming along with a newer model) whereas HP is still following
the young industry's golden rule: computer sales come from
innovations (although HP is not any more as innovative as they used to be).

I asked myself what new feature could let me write off all the time and
efforts put in the palmtop and start again learning to walk on a new
platform: voice recognition (but not at the price of size or battery life
shortage). Otherwise the palmtop does provide everything I really need
and can think of (although backlight or colour would be a nice
enhancement). Actually there is still a lot left to be discovered.

This means the LX is quite mature as a PDA within an overall market
environment  driven by the expectation that the best is still to be
invented.

So HP is actually missing an unique opportunity: They could be the first to
explicitely run a continuous product line in this otherwise too fast-paced
and competitive industry (which feature-wise shows first signs of
saturation anyhow). By doing so they would not only ensure a steady return
(the core of the LX community would most likely stay) but could also gain
tremendously in brand reputation (because you can easily replace your
assistant when worn out, being instantly as happy as you were before;
Mercedes and Miele who were among the first to adopt such marketing
strategy for their maturing products gained their merits this way).

Over time this current customer base would probably grow because there is
still a huge potential (so far deliberately not explored by HP itself):

Over the last year or so I have met at least half a dozen LX owners who
used happily the buildt-in features and were astonished by the goodies
discussed on this list I use now. They did not know what is possible. I
also helped some colleguages (who were curious enough to ask what I was
always doing with this little toy) to buy new ones for themselves (which
have to be ordered from the States although being produced here in
Sinagapore; HP staff here is not selling you any piece - "obsolete",
"outdated technology", "why not the better ...LX", "not produced any
more"). I am certainly not a fanatic missionaire trying to sell this
machine to people I meet the first time. Still they realize the power and
are convinced (but when "advised" in a shop by a professional salesman as
described at least backlight and colour will work even when given a chance
to compare).

This type of steady development takes time and is new to the computer
industry which is used to jump from platform to platform and has learned
that taking time is most likely deadly. A last example: Jorgen Walgren
recommended a Singapore roadmap software for the LX. I had to approach the
software company three times before I got the program (they released a W95
version which they now focus on, the lx version showed obviously
disappointing results). By now this is one of the most impressive of my
regularly used programs. It not only shows the complete streetmap of
Singapore, you can also search by name any road or
(office/government/shopping...) building and condominium the location of
which is instantly displayed (the respective paper Road-Atlas has four
times the size of the palmtop). An  American lawyer living here in
Singapore could first not believe, that this was possible with this small
machine and asked for the software-company because he thought this must be
a good investment. Then he could not believe that it is only available for
Singapore. I am sure that this program for cities like NY or LA would
definitely work in such a direction mentioned above. But the precondition
for anybody putting in efforts, money or time would be HPs commitment to a
caring continuation of their product (and for them it will be extremely
difficult to be the first to overcome the herd instinct, even more so now
that there is no leading visionary left in their own house)...

But if somebody has access to the big shot there - could this help to sell
the idea (without the last brackets)?

Hermann Michael Blum

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:15:37 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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> Hmm- interesting! Some people always wants to turn everything to
> political statements. I am just trying to figure out why people wants to
> blame Microsoft and HP. If noone bought Windows 95/98/NT or Windows CE-
> there wouldn't be a huge market for it. No market-> no product. Plain and

You mean, no marketing -> no product.

The art of business is not to produce what people need (because
most of them don't know either), but to make people believe that
they need your product.

In addition, in the computer industry there is also a
"dependency"-factor. You cannot change your OS or applications
whenever you think that there is something better available (as
a private person maybe, but surely not as a company). MS is
highly aware of this (like every good drug dealer). Other
companies were more aware of quality and now they are dead.

This and more makes the real world more complicated than your
model. To return to politics again :), here is a comparison:
does really anyone believe that in democracy the most able party
will win the elections. Surely not. But all other systems
proofed to be even worse.

Of course, if all people were like us, everything would be
completely different ;). Maybe in 2050, when the world will be
ruled by a huge HP200lx built by a strange group of people who
called themselves "HPLX-L", everything will be fine.


Reinhard



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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:21:37 -0400
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Tim <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I've never been able to make my Apex Data ÝSmart Modular
> Technologies division¨ "Mobile Plus Cellular" v.34 modem
> to work w/ my 200LX (or my old 1 MB 100LX, for that matter)

I really cannot see any reason for this because I have the
same modem and so do others and it works fine with no special
needs at all.  I suspect your modem may be broken.  You really
should try it in a different computer to see if it works
there.

> I get tone, and
> in the case of WWW/LX, I even connect briefly Ýbefore getting
> an error message of, "Aborting! Broken connection while
> waiting for 'D:' Exiting..."  It won't even connect from the
> built-in data com program

Try getting down to absolute basics.  Edit your CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT files to REM out everything except for the CIC100
line.  Don't run Buddy, or SSC or any other drivers or TSR's.
Just launch SysMgr.  Reboot the palmtop, connect it to the AC
adapter, and then run the DataComm application.  Tell it to
use COM2.  Send an  AT  to the modem and you should get the
OK  back.

Now send an  AT&F  to reset the modem back to factory
settings.  Now try to dial your normal CompuServe access
number with an  ATDT xxx-xxxx  The CompuServe modem should
answer, you should hear the modem noises and then all should
go quiet and you will get a  CONNECT  message.  Right after
this comes up, press  Ctrl-C  and you should get the  User ID:
prompt from CompuServe.

If all of this works so far, then the modem seems to be in
good shape.  You can put in your CompuServe ID and password if
you would like to to test it even further to see if the modem
will hold the connection like it should.  To disconnect, wait
a few seconds without typing anything and then press  +++
(three pluses in a row) and the modem should come back to you
with an  OK, then just do a  ATZ  to reset the modem.  If you
actually logged into CompuServe thne type  OFF  at any prompt
to log off and CompuServe will break the connection.

If the modem did not connect to CompuServe or if it did, but
did not stay connected, then I suspect either a coincidence of
a bad phone line or the modem could be bad.  You might want to
talk to the Mobile Planet people ASAP in case you want to
exchange it or get your modem back.

You can also try a similar test with the modem in a notebook
computer using Hyperterminal.  See if the behavior is any
different.  But you seem to be getting the same results in
your 200 and your 100, so it is either the modem or the phone
line.


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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:11:13 -0400
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david
i guess no luck yet?
thanks
tony

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:56:28 -0400
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Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:31:02 -0400 (EDT)

04h57m49s ago ...
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> > Ah, a Jimmy Carter fan!  Blame the people for not being as smart as =
this
> > so-called elite minority.

Hate to spoil peoples "politically correct" illusions, but there really
are elite minorities.  How many of us could play basketball like
Michael Jordan, or have the genius of Einstein?  To whatever extent
this group is an "elite minority", it's because we learned to use a
so-called outmoded machine and "dead" OS to do real work.  Work that
can't be done on the new mass-market toys.

> I am just trying to figure out why people wants to
> blame Microsoft and HP. If noone bought Windows 95/98/NT or Windows CE-
> there wouldn't be a huge market for it. No market-> no product.

Hmmm - seems like the cart is before the horse here...  Aggressive
marketing created the "demand" for Windoze.  We didn't exactly have
peasants storming King Bill's castle with torches and pitchforks
screaming "we demand windoze".

Later


-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:10:15 -0400
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>Hmmm - seems like the cart is before the horse here...  Aggressive
>marketing created the "demand" for Windoze.  We didn't exactly have
>peasants storming King Bill's castle with torches and pitchforks
>screaming "we demand windoze".

I like that, especially with Bastille day coming up.  It is also true.
Scary what marketing can do.


Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
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Why oh why did I not read your official hate list?

From www.hplx.net
>BuyComp - This vendor is the all-time evil vendor. If life were Star Wars,
BuyComp would be the Emperor. Or maybe not.> They're so incompetent, they'd
probably be a bumbling storm trooper. They take orders for products,
claiming to have >them in stock, AND CHARGE YOUR CREDIT CARD RIGHT THEN, and
never deliver the product, even if you order it >with second-day shipping.
They respond to customer service requests quickly, but their response to
questions is: "That

The SAME thing happened to me.I ordered it Monday second day delivery. I
ordered late, so it would be scheduled to get here Thursday. It did not
arrive, I called - it is out of stock. Hmmm. Web Site says it is there. You
TOLD me on Monday it was in stock. Who should I kill? (JOKE)

As you stated, they respond quickly to Customer Service requests, but are
unable to do anything about it other than apologize profusely.

I sent a "series" of suggestions to them on how they could improve their
operations and prevent this type of incident from reoccurring. You know,
Dave, if you had done that, maybe I would have my laptop. ; )

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:46:49 +0200
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Hello,

the World Time application uses a file on D:\_SYS named TIMEZONE.DAT.
Does someone know the meaning of the lines in this file? My 200LX
(German version) contains:

Europ.             (European)
3:25-31  6  1:00
9:24-30  6  0:00
Norden             (Northern)
4:1-7    6  1:00
10:25-31 6  0:00
S|den              (Southern)
3:1-7    6  0:00
10:25-31 6  1:00

My interpretaion (just guessing, without knowing) is: If one selects
Automatic for a given city, then selects either Europe, Northern, or
Southern, the lines are interpreted as the corresponding daylight
savings time start and end dates. For example, European DST starts
within a range March 25.th to March 31st., and ends between Sept. 24th.
and Sept. 30., which is actually the last Sunday in March to the last
Sunday in September.

I do not know how to interprete the 6.

The 1:00 and 0:00 seem to be the decrement (at the beginning of the
DST), respectively the increment (at the end of the DST), given the
"normal" time as the basis.

So far, so good. What makes me wondering is that in Europe the end of
DST is not the last Sunday in September, but the last Sunday in October
(to the best of my knowledge), so this could be an error in line three
of TIMEZONE.DAT.

Can someone please correct or confirm my assumptions, or point me to a
source somewhere.

Thanks
Norbert

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:40:31 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> The art of business is not to produce what people need (because
> most of them don't know either), but to make people believe that
> they need your product.

Yes, I simplified things since I am not interested to start a discussion
about marketing. This has now been taken up by 2 people on this list and
I suggest that if you want to continue that- we should do it off the
list.

Yes, marketing is something that is a very powerful tool and you can
make people believe that they must have your product even if they don't
really need it. However, history is full of examples of great and
usefull products which never took off- sometimes the marketing was
great, sometimes not. I personally think that you should never assume
that the consumers are stupid- but that they know what is good and what
is not.

But as I mentioned, I don't feel that all interesting theories about
marketing should be on this list.


Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:41:57 +0000
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> I know some here have had plenty of luck w/ this modem Ýbut
> lost any advice files you may've sent....¨.  I get tone, and
> in the case of WWW/LX, I even connect briefly Ýbefore getting
> an error message of, "Aborting! Broken connection while
> waiting for 'D:' Exiting..."  It won't even connect from the
> built-in data com program.

<<If something is really "waiting for D:" - that is the rom drive on the
HP and probably is the problem.  You may have a bad reference if you
refer to the d: drive anywhere.>>

Since I just got that same error this morning I now realize it is
not the D: drive. (g)

It is the "D:" part of the cis-script in the WWW.cfg file???  So, it
would appear that there may be a timing issue in the script or the cis
node you might be logging on???  But I only got it the one time.  After
that my log-ons went fine.  So you can either try again or attempt to
change one of the delays.  Or do as Stan suggested and manually log on
and see what prompts cis is waiting for and while the one in the cfg
file may be timing out.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:46:25 -0700
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Larry,
I have used the 100LX with connectivity cable linking a MegaHertz Pocket
modem for analog connection to my office server.

Very 'loose and sloppy' connection even with the analog carousel add-in;
and likely to get knocked off.

The nokia phones with palmtop on one side and phone on the other are all
over Europe but not here..Tell me about the StarTac/Wireless possibilities;
I have been talking with BellAtlantic about their palmtop with builtin
wireless modem(airbridge)as well as landline; $699 with air time subscription

John
At 10:21 AM 6/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone used the StarTAC on digital service with the 200lx?
>
>What modem(s) do you use?  How reliable/fast are connects as compared to
>analog?  Any online resources?
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:42:38 -0400
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Does anyone have a copy of the Windows 3.0 setup.inf file they can email me?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:47:16 +0000
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Avi,

I certainly use HV.  I think it's great.  I did change a couple of the =
fonts that makes it easier to read (at least for me).

If I ever need to read an HTML document on the palmtop I certainly =
need/use HV for that too.      =3DBob=3D

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> Hello,
>
> the World Time application uses a file on D:\_SYS named TIMEZONE.DAT.
> Does someone know the meaning of the lines in this file? My 200LX
> (German version) contains:

I cut your message since this response will be long enough - it is from
one of the HP100 programmers (where are they now as the 200 reaches the
end of its life?):

It took me a while to understand what you were trying to say, but I think the
bug you're talking about is that the UK doesn't have the same DST switch date
as most of the rest of Europe.  This is true, and in fact, World Time
approximates the UK (and several other European countries) to switch at the
same time as the rest of Europe.  World Time (as shipped) only recognizes
three time zones (European, Northern and Southern).

It was a management nightmare to track all the local and even regional
differences with regard to DST transitions, so this was a "educated guess"
approach.  I did leave in a back door to allow a sophisticated user to add
additional Time Zones.

The file D:\_SYS\TIMEZONE.DAT (on the ROM disk) has a simple ASCII file that
contains the names of the transitions, and when they occur. It looks like
this:

 _______________________________________________
 European
 3:25-31 6 1:00
 9:24-30 6 0:00
 Northern
 4:1-7    6 1:00
 10:25-31 6 0:00
 Southern
 3:1-7    6 0:00
 10:25-31 6 1:00
 _______________________________________________

You can, however, provide a replacement for this file--place it in
C:\_DAT\TIMEZONE.DAT, and World Time will use it instead of the ROM file. It
is easiest to copy the file from D:\_SYS to C:\_DAT and edit it with Memo.

As far as reading the format: let's disect the European entry.

        European          =    A
        3:25-31 6 1:00    =    B:C-D E F
        9:24-30 6 0:00    =    G:H-I J K

That is, A=European, B=3, C=25, D=31, E=6, F=1:00, G=9, H=24, I=30, J=6,
K=0:00

 The TimeZone name is European,       The TimeZone name is A
 On the last Sunday of March,         In month B, day of the week E from C to
D
    the clock is advanced an hour,      the clock is adjusted by F
 On the last Sunday of September,     In month G, day of the week J from H to
I
    the clock is restored to normal.    the clock is adjusted by K

The day of the week is 0=Mon,1=Tue,2=Wed,3=Thu,4=Fri,5=Sat,6=Sun.

Let's say that the UK makes the transition to DST on the second Monday in
April and the last Sunday in September (fictional example!--I don't know what
it really is).  The new entry (just add it below the existing ones) for this
would be:

 United Kingdom
 3:8-15 0 1:00
 9:24-30 6 0:00

Note that 1) the first letter of each time zone must be unique, and 2) Only 26
Time zones are allowed.  That is, you have one TimeZone for each letter of the
alphabet.

Unfortunately, you will need to change the TimeZone of the appropriate cities
to reflect the correct time zone.  In your case, you need to change each of
the English cities to have "United Kingdom" as the TimeZone for this to work
properly.

....... end quote ..........

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Andreas, Avi & beta testers,

AT&T works again with the newest release of WWW/LX Plus 2.(G)  Thank you!
Thank you!       =3DBob=3D

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On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:52:15 +0200, Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU> =
wrote:

> members donate half a million US dollars each, the Mir can fly a
> whole year longer and thus the LX will survive into the next
> millenium.

Actually, Mir has to be deserted due to the fact that the ISS (Internation=
al
Space Station) is soon to be inhabited. As much as I love Mir, and will
always cherish my contacts with the cosmonauts (I have the QSL cards to
prove it), it is an old station. The Russians did manage to do something
that we (Americans) were not able to accomplish, keep a station up and
inhabited. There were several incidents that were near fatal, but they
always managed to keep it in orbit and manned. The ISS will be as much =
fun
for me and will provide many educational opportunites for we mere earthbou=
nd
people. For a good read, check out the book entitled 'Dragonfly'. It's a
book about Mir and NASA and offers a 'no holds barred' style of commentary=
.
Viva Mir!

Jeff

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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Yes, I know, I much prefer capitalism.  It just bothers me when money is the
*only* motivator -- there are so many other things.

"Cavendish, Lynn M" wrote:

> Richard,
>
> What system would you prefer?  Only the Capitalist system which allows HP to
> stop making the 200LX would have allowed it to be created in the first
> place.  Central planning would never have permitted such a powerful tool to
> be made available to individuals.
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith Ýmailto:rsmith@ENOL.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: 200LX
>
> It's OK, it's just business.  Where the almighty dollar rules all.  It's
> just
> that it really stinks that they're doing this.

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Subject:      ÝFLUFF¨ 200lx discontinued soon - and Microsoft
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Jorgen;

By "pressure from Micro$oft" I mean that they have to follow MS's lead
or be left behind.  The ethical question is: "How did MS get into the
lead?"  Anyone who has been in the computer industry long enough knows
that MS got DOS from Digital Research - for a song, and, presumably,
under false pretenses.

Later, they licensed it to OEMs, contracting to be paid a royalty for
*each and every system sold*, whether it had MS-DOS or not!  (In my mind
that is definitely unethical.) In this way, they have the
"bread-and-butter" money to fund additional projects like Windows, MS
Office, etc. and to buy up competitors and others companies making
favorable technologies.  After complaints to the FTC from OEMs, they
discontinued that practice, but it was too late, they already had a
financial advantage and still do.  And, because of that stable financial
foundation, are able to take great risks and bully their remaining
competitors, OEMs, etc. into complying with their wishes. ie: "pressure
from Micro$oft"

They got market share by *buying* market share, not by honestly
competing in the marketplace and having the superior product.  And
that's what bothers me: their money made the powerful.  Being rich is
fine, but honesty and integrity, and helping people, come before wealth.

Unfortunately, a company with scruples can't compete in today's market;
case in point: WordPerfect Corp.

Just my .02 worth.
Richard

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:49:41 EDT
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Someone help me if this is inaccurate.  I was just browsing AOL's PDA forum
and saw a squib pegged to a report by Andrew Seybold at the beginning of this
month, which says that only 10,000 (ten thousand) Jupiter-based handhelds
have been sold since their introduction last year.  This would include all 3
HP Jornada models, and anyone else's Jupiter-based products.  How is this
possible?  How can they kill our platform in favor of that one when 10,000
handhelds could hardly pay one employee's child's tuition, room and board
through four years of college?  This can't be right.  Is it right?

-roger-

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:40:15 -0500
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨Internet Purchasing - was Fluff: Wisdom

I've found credit card companies to be a terrific ally in convincing
businesses to make good on promises.  I had made a large purchase from an
Internet sporting goods company and was promised delivery w/in three
days.  When it didn't arrive and calls to the company were not helpful, I
called my credit card company (Discover).

Discover saw the charge had been made but they said they give vendors 10
days to make good.  After ten days, if you let them, they go after the
company for you.  I used that information in a letter to the president of
the company and got my purchase overnighted along with $100 in free goods
as an apology.  My parents used the same approach to coaxing a
slow-moving repair shop to shape up.  In their case, the credit card
company made the call and the problem was corrected w/in two days.

Just a thought.

Larry Zimmerman

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:17:43 -0400 Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
writes:
>As you stated, they respond quickly to Customer Service requests, but
>are unable to do anything about it other than apologize profusely.
>
>I sent a "series" of suggestions to them on how they could improve
>their operations and prevent this type of incident from reoccurring. You

>know, Dave, if you had done that, maybe I would have my laptop. ; )

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:23:39 +0000
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> Andreas, Avi & beta testers,
>
> AT&T works again with the newest release of WWW/LX Plus 2.(G)  Thank you!
> Thank you!       =Bob=


Can I bill _YOU_ for the long distance calls from Jackson, Wyo (Grand
Teton National Park) to Seattle to test the bugger!!!! (G)  Since the
800 number worked, I had to call Seattle to keep testing!

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:30:14 -0600
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Folks,
Am trying this combo for e-mail, so far unsuccessfully. Have tried with GP,
LXTCP, WWW/LX PLus, and the built-in Datacomm. Each time the number I wish
to connect to appears on the phone display and the word DATA flashes 4 or 5
times before it gives up and the software on the palmtop reports NO CARRIER.
Would appreciate it if someone using this combo will e-mail me ALL the
settings I should have on the phone, as I'm probably overlooking something
simple. I do have the modem set as integrated, baud rate as 9600 (matched on
the palmtop side), type as DATA, protocol as SECURE LINK, have tried MAN
CALL as SPEECH and DATA, etc.
TIA for any and all responses.
Suresh

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All this matter is rigth, but we cann;t do anything...
WinCE is bad, WinXX is worst, but the have sold more than 100million
copies (is terrible!!) ...

A good thing is that :

AMD is producing a version of 486 with a lot of good things : 3 banks of
64MB dram, and more good stuff... somebady will try this kit ?, will bve
nice, i try it, but i live in the Argentina and AMD is a dream for
others... with this kit (i dont remember the part number) i or somebady
else will try to make a good machine, for us of course, with the lastest
in OS : Digital Research D.O.S. v6...(~1992)
is an idea, but could be real....



Don E. Weatherly wrote:
>
> There have been numerous emails about what features people wanted added to
> their HP200LX; e.g., backlit screen.  The newest HP WinCE machines have
> some of these features, only real problem is they have WinCE instead of DOS.
>
> Sounds like we need an email campaign to encourage HP to produce a DOS
> version of their current high-end plmtops.  Maybe that would be easier for
> them than to continue producing the HP200LX.
>
> Perhaps we should also let them know what realistic features we would like
> in a palmtop.
>
> ================
> At 02:32 PM 6/25/99 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:
> >Writing letters to HP and asking them to continue production is a waste of
> >time, IMHO.  If we can't help HP to increase sales we need the next best
> thing.
> > That would be for HP to incorporate much of the 200LX's funtionality into
> one
> >of the current palmtop models.
> >
> >I for one don't _LOVE_ DOS, I just need stability, speed, functionality, and
> >compatibility in a small package.  If a WinCE device can be changed to have
> >this, I'll vote for it with my $'s.
> >
> >Don.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
> >> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at HP who
> >> could change or delay this decision?
> >
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Bill Cole <bcole@CLARK.NET> wrote:

> Remove would start to do
> its thing then after a few moments stopped, giving me a "Record Not Found".
> (If I foolishly persist and try the same thing again I get a "Out of memory
> error" or worse - lock up hard (Ctrl-Shift-On)).  Garlic doesn't help at
> all.  And today when scrolling from date to date I got a divide overflow with
> the predictible results

You have a corruption deep inside your ADB file.  Hex editing
is not practical unless you totally understand the delicate
and complicated data structures inside the ADB file.

The others have given some good suggestions: try extracting
stuff before and after the bad dates.  Then merge the
extracted stuff into a brand new, empty ADB file.

You can also try the utility ADBIO to export your ADB file to
a Comma Delimited Format text file.  If this works, then
import that CDF file into a brand new and empty ADb file.

I don't see any way that the DS or memory upgrades have
anything to do with these troubles.

I also have to ask the obvious question: do you have a backup?


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:08:41 -0500
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Subject:      Hardware Closeouts

I found a site with some closeout prices on some stuff that _may_ be of
interest to 200lx users.

http://www.extremecomputing.com/xcom/closeouts.html

Features:

External PCMCIA adapter - $46.95

PCMCIA Combo Network Card - $38.95

IBM modems - ARDIS, Mobitex, and Cellular - $59.95 each

I don't know if any of this stuff would even work with the 200lx.  Just
thought I'd throw it out there.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:13:39 -0600
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HOOOORAY!  Roger Feinman!

Finally, someone who states what I've been saying / thinking / wondering
for years!

Also, a hearty 'Well said!" to Peter Borders and Dan Ridenhour!

So I suppoes it's true that Micro$oft IS the Great Satan of the Computer
Industry -- and possibly of the whole business world!

My prayers will be with judge Thomas Penfield Jackson for the next
several months!

Why should we have to allow MS to continue its chokehold on the computer
industry!  I might have had a decent career at WordPerfect if not for
Billy-boy.  And, I believe that the whole industry would have more of
the innovation that MS so dearly wants to defend if they would allow
their competition to actually compete, instead of just squashing them
unmercifully.

But, oh well, it's just the other side of the capitalism coin.

Richard

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Hola, lei tu mensaje , y te molesto con la siguiente pregunta , que es ese
kit que mencionaste de amd? , tenes una url con la info ?, te agradeceria si
mw la podes mandar.
muchas gracias..

Flavio Ruiz


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REPLY TO: smoore@ipinc.net


Hi Folks,

I spoke with a person named Scott, who works at Intel here
in Oregon.  He picked up a number of SanDisk 20 meg PCMCIA
cards at an internal auction.
These are PCMCIA not CF. He is asking $40.00 each. Please
write him directly at
smoore@ipinc.net

Other than making arrangements to buy a couple of cards I
know nothing about him.

Patrick

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 23:20:10 +0000
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From:         Al Creswell <al.creswell@ATT.NET>
Subject:      Tech:Need Help-Post/LX Won't Delete Msgs

I recently got Post/LX set up to work correctly in demo
   mode, and have been successfully downloading email,
   however I cannot get the program to delete the msgs
from
   the  server once they've been downloaded to the 200.  I
   have the box checked next to "Delete from Server", but
it
   still will not delete them...I downloaded the same 6
   messages time after time. If I access the msgs through
a
   desktop computer, I can delete 'em, but not from the
   palmtop.  Am I missing something else from setup, is it
   because it's in "demo" mode, or is this something that
my
   ISP (AT&T Worldnet) is doing to me?

   If any of you have a solution for this, please advise -
   I'm traveling, but will be staying with friends with
   desktop computers for a few days, so will be able to
   access msgs during that time. I really would like to
   set this to work correctly if possible.

   TIA,

   Al Creswell

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:38:49 -0400
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Awhile back there was a URL or an email address for Kento Byron
who was selling XJ2144 modems for 12.99.
I had the email as Kento@eznet.com, but this is being bounced back
with errors. Can anyone recall the correct address?

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:20:37 EDT
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I was surprised how little file space is added by converting text files to
.ndb format.  Two examples:

                                                        Text            .ndb
US Constitution                              47,059         49,576
Westminster Confession of Faith     69,644         71,896

A couple of K seems a cheep price to pay  for indexing.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:03:21 -0500
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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> =
wrote:

> > AA alkaline cells have about are rated at 2000 to
> > 2500mA-hours. If your other calculations are correct, that
> > would increase the battery life to 8 to 12 hours. Not too bad
> > <g>
> >
> > Vic
>
> That rating is at a VERY reduced current consumtion. AA cells are
> designed to deliver less than 100ma, that is how they arrive at that
> high a capacity. You have to look at the discharge curves at
> different currents to see the real capacity. The rated discharge rate
> is the main reason for the different sizes of cells, larger cells can
> deliver more current without loosing capacity due to lower
> internal resistance.

Sorry for my very late reply. I am traveling and don't have my
battery reference books here, but I believe the rating I gave
is valid at least for 50ma. I will have to check. Also, I would
not say the MAIN reason for larger cells is to deliver higher
current. That is certainly one of their advantages, but larger
cells also have more total capacity and that is also important
in many applications.

Vic Roberts

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Why should it be any different in Europe than here? The adapter
is rated for 100 to 240 volts.

Vic

> Does anyone know about the "care and feeding" of the battery/charger of =
the OB
> 800CT in UK? In Switzerland? Other European countries?
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com

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From:         Olas Hubbs <OlasH@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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> I think it would be important that people identify themselves by name =
and
> email address, or their voice is useless. I don't want to see the list, =
so I
> am accused of collecting a mailinsg list :) - but it would be nice to =
know if
> the demographics of this list is different from my customer base.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
Avi,

HV is important to me. The HP200LX is my primary computer, including
using the web. I don't recreational browse, but use it to get technical
information. I am on the web at least three times a week going to site
to get information. Without HV I loose an important function of my
200LX. I don't want to go to a laptop, but without HV I would have to
consider the options.

Olas
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Rather than try to convince HP to produce a new DOS box, I would think
that they would be more receptive to the idea of putting 200LX
capabilities on a snap in ROM card that could be installed by the
consumer in the newer LX models. This way, instead of "upgrading" from
CE 2.0 to 3.0 for example, the consumer could upgrade to a 200LX.
(simply a 'brain transplant' for the newer LX models.)

This seems like an economically feasible way that HP could discontinue
having to build the 200lx box, yet in a very real sense still keep it
alive and not abandon the 200LX user base.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don E. Weatherly ÝSMTP:weather@EXIS.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 6:31 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Ultimate Upgraded HP DOS Palmtop
>
> There have been numerous emails about what features people wanted
> added to
> their HP200LX; e.g., backlit screen.  The newest HP WinCE machines
> have
> some of these features, only real problem is they have WinCE instead
> of DOS.
>
> Sounds like we need an email campaign to encourage HP to produce a DOS
> version of their current high-end plmtops.  Maybe that would be easier
> for
> them than to continue producing the HP200LX.
>
> Perhaps we should also let them know what realistic features we would
> like
> in a palmtop.
>
> ================
> At 02:32 PM 6/25/99 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:
> >Writing letters to HP and asking them to continue production is a
> waste of
> >time, IMHO.  If we can't help HP to increase sales we need the next
> best
> thing.
> > That would be for HP to incorporate much of the 200LX's funtionality
> into
> one
> >of the current palmtop models.
> >
> >I for one don't _LOVE_ DOS, I just need stability, speed,
> functionality, and
> >compatibility in a small package.  If a WinCE device can be changed
> to have
> >this, I'll vote for it with my $'s.
> >
> >Don.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
> >> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at
> HP who
> >> could change or delay this decision?
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: Hermann Michael Blum <hmblum@SINGNET.COM.SG>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 8:16 AM
Subject: 200LX discontinued soon


> One aspect I have been missing in this discussion so far: HPLX users want
a
> replacement for their palmtops if out of order (and appreciate an
> enhancement coming along with a newer model) whereas HP is still following
> the young industry's golden rule: computer sales come from
> innovations (although HP is not any more as innovative as they used to
be).
>
> I asked myself what new feature could let me write off all the time and
> efforts put in the palmtop and start again learning to walk on a new
> platform: voice recognition (but not at the price of size or battery life
> shortage). Otherwise the palmtop does provide everything I really need
> and can think of (although backlight or colour would be a nice
> enhancement). Actually there is still a lot left to be discovered.
>
> This means the LX is quite mature as a PDA within an overall market
> environment  driven by the expectation that the best is still to be
> invented.
>
> So HP is actually missing an unique opportunity: They could be the first
to
> explicitely run a continuous product line in this otherwise too fast-paced
> and competitive industry (which feature-wise shows first signs of
> saturation anyhow). By doing so they would not only ensure a steady return
> (the core of the LX community would most likely stay) but could also gain
> tremendously in brand reputation (because you can easily replace your
> assistant when worn out, being instantly as happy as you were before;
> Mercedes and Miele who were among the first to adopt such marketing
> strategy for their maturing products gained their merits this way).
>
> Over time this current customer base would probably grow because there is
> still a huge potential (so far deliberately not explored by HP itself):
>
> Over the last year or so I have met at least half a dozen LX owners who
> used happily the buildt-in features and were astonished by the goodies
> discussed on this list I use now. They did not know what is possible. I
> also helped some colleguages (who were curious enough to ask what I was
> always doing with this little toy) to buy new ones for themselves (which
> have to be ordered from the States although being produced here in
> Sinagapore; HP staff here is not selling you any piece - "obsolete",
> "outdated technology", "why not the better ...LX", "not produced any
> more"). I am certainly not a fanatic missionaire trying to sell this
> machine to people I meet the first time. Still they realize the power and
> are convinced (but when "advised" in a shop by a professional salesman as
> described at least backlight and colour will work even when given a chance
> to compare).
>
> This type of steady development takes time and is new to the computer
> industry which is used to jump from platform to platform and has learned
> that taking time is most likely deadly. A last example: Jorgen Walgren
> recommended a Singapore roadmap software for the LX. I had to approach the
> software company three times before I got the program (they released a W95
> version which they now focus on, the lx version showed obviously
> disappointing results). By now this is one of the most impressive of my
> regularly used programs. It not only shows the complete streetmap of
> Singapore, you can also search by name any road or
> (office/government/shopping...) building and condominium the location of
> which is instantly displayed (the respective paper Road-Atlas has four
> times the size of the palmtop). An  American lawyer living here in
> Singapore could first not believe, that this was possible with this small
> machine and asked for the software-company because he thought this must be
> a good investment. Then he could not believe that it is only available for
> Singapore. I am sure that this program for cities like NY or LA would
> definitely work in such a direction mentioned above. But the precondition
> for anybody putting in efforts, money or time would be HPs commitment to a
> caring continuation of their product (and for them it will be extremely
> difficult to be the first to overcome the herd instinct, even more so now
> that there is no leading visionary left in their own house)...
>
> But if somebody has access to the big shot there - could this help to sell
> the idea (without the last brackets)?
>
> Hermann Michael Blum

Why not send ALL OF THIS messages to HP ?

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> All this matter is rigth, but we cann;t do anything...
> WinCE is bad, WinXX is worst, but the have sold more than 100million
> copies (is terrible!!) ...
>
> A good thing is that :
>
> AMD is producing a version of 486 with a lot of good things : 3 banks of
> 64MB dram, and more good stuff... somebady will try this kit ?, will bve
> nice, i try it, but i live in the Argentina and AMD is a dream for
> others... with this kit (i dont remember the part number) i or somebady
> else will try to make a good machine, for us of course, with the lastest
> in OS : Digital Research D.O.S. v6...(~1992)
> is an idea, but could be real....
>

Tenes por ahi la URL, de donde sacaste la informacion ?
Saludos


Luis Prado

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:39:36 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: HV - once again...

I also am an occaisional HV user. I use it for work when I have a series of
HTML pages to read through and I need to "free up" my desktop for its main
task. I then copy the pages to my palmtop and use HV to read and learn. In
these cases I find it invaluable. I recently recieved an external modem to
use with my palmtop. The instructions were all in HTML. They are now all on
my palmtop and I can read them in bed,at the bus stop or wherever.

I find HV to be an invaluable tool when I need it and am amazed at what it CAN
do on my lowly single speed 80186! I have not been disappointed and am VERY
greatful to Avi and Andreas for releasing it as it is.

In a nutshell - let's not bite the hand that feeds us!


======================
David Becher
davidb@netmedia.net.il
davidb@cimatron.co.il
======================

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:50:52 -0500
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              Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Ultimate Upgraded HP DOS Palmtop


>Rather than try to convince HP to produce a new DOS box, I would think
>that they would be more receptive to the idea of putting 200LX
>capabilities on a snap in ROM card that could be installed by the
>consumer in the newer LX models. This way, instead of "upgrading" from
>CE 2.0 to 3.0 for example, the consumer could upgrade to a 200LX.
>(simply a 'brain transplant' for the newer LX models.)
>
>This seems like an economically feasible way that HP could discontinue
>having to build the 200lx box, yet in a very real sense still keep it
>alive and not abandon the 200LX user base.

You can already get about as close as possible by installing XT-CE on a
75mhz
plus WinCE machine.  Its an emulator but thats the best your going to get as
the
CE boxes are using SIGNIFICANTLY different hardware than a DOS system.

Unless of course your talking about creating a full HP compatible machine in
a
Type II pcmcia card form factor.  Hmm. a rexx sized hplx.  that could be
interesting
<grin>

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Steve
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don E. Weatherly ÝSMTP:weather@EXIS.NET¨
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 6:31 PM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Ultimate Upgraded HP DOS Palmtop
>>
>> There have been numerous emails about what features people wanted
>> added to
>> their HP200LX; e.g., backlit screen.  The newest HP WinCE machines
>> have
>> some of these features, only real problem is they have WinCE instead
>> of DOS.
>>
>> Sounds like we need an email campaign to encourage HP to produce a DOS
>> version of their current high-end plmtops.  Maybe that would be easier
>> for
>> them than to continue producing the HP200LX.
>>
>> Perhaps we should also let them know what realistic features we would
>> like
>> in a palmtop.
>>
>> ================
>> At 02:32 PM 6/25/99 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:
>> >Writing letters to HP and asking them to continue production is a
>> waste of
>> >time, IMHO.  If we can't help HP to increase sales we need the next
>> best
>> thing.
>> > That would be for HP to incorporate much of the 200LX's funtionality
>> into
>> one
>> >of the current palmtop models.
>> >
>> >I for one don't _LOVE_ DOS, I just need stability, speed,
>> functionality, and
>> >compatibility in a small package.  If a WinCE device can be changed
>> to have
>> >this, I'll vote for it with my $'s.
>> >
>> >Don.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Do you think there's a way that you could gather our
>> >> comments/appeals/etc. and forward them to someone in authority at
>> HP who
>> >> could change or delay this decision?
>> >
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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 03:57:17 +0000
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Andreas,

Just tried the FIFO=3D1 in the ATT section of www.cfg.  It works considera=
bly faster with my Apex Data 33.6 card modem. (Big Grin).  So now not =
only is ATT working again, but it is much faster.  Great stuff!   =3DBob=3D=

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THANK YOU Fred!  At least you were on vacation.(G)  I have been calling =
Hawaii from Virginia!  Even the 800# stopped working from the motels so =
they added the motel surcharges TOO!  Ouch.  Funny thing was the 800# =
worked from home but not the motels the last few days.  I don't know what =
(you all) did to fix it, but it kind of seemed like a timing issue.  OK =
Fred I owe you a beer or two when we finally get to meet someday. (G)  =
=3DBob=3D

> > Andreas, Avi & beta testers,
> >
> > AT&T works again with the newest release of WWW/LX Plus 2.(G)  Thank =
you!
> > Thank you!       =3DBob=3D
>
> Can I bill _YOU_ for the long distance calls from Jackson, Wyo (Grand
> Teton National Park) to Seattle to test the bugger!!!! (G)  Since the
> 800 number worked, I had to call Seattle to keep testing!
>

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:18:41 EDT
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An open letter to Hewlett-Packard and Micro$oft:

I don't believe that you can sell enough of the WinCE machines to make them
profitable.  I also understand that there will be significant changes in the
operating system in the near future, therefore I doubt that IT managers who
understand this fact will purchase the present models in bulk.  Here's my
200LX-to-Jornada upgrade counteroffer:

I'll give you a xerox of  my 200LX's behind, but it's still mine.  Keep the
REX.  You give me the Jornada 680 for free.  I'm not going to pay you a dime
for it.  Instead, I'll buy three spare batteries from you, because I know I'm
going to need them.  Also, I'll promise not to buy any other competing WinCE
PDA, or any ultraportable Pentium sub-notebook for the next 12 months.  If by
the end of that period, you can make the Jornada/WinCE platform do everything
that I could formerly do with my 200LX palmtop, I'll buy the next edition.
And, by the way, I'm quite serious.

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:22:26 EDT
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I am looking to get a palmtop. Unfortunately my wife has set a limit. All I
seem to be able to afford is a 1000cx, or a 95 lx. What would be the down
falls to one of these? I want all the look and feel of the 200 lx and the
kind of programs it has. Can I reproduce these qualities on these two
machines? I would also like web browsing capabilities, is that possible on
the 95?

glenn

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Date:         Sat, 26 Jun 1999 23:55:26 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Here's an email I received from someone that has an LX to sell. I can't
afford it right now, but thought one of you might be interested. Email =
him
direct.


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Kenneth F. Musella" <kmusella@erols.com>
To: "Jeff Johns" <jeffj@scott.net>
Subject: Re: HP 200LX selling?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:48:44 -0400

Jeff,


Here's what I've got;


(1) HP200LX with Times2Tech TechSpeed and TechRAM
upgrade. Translates to a doublespeed CPU and 5 Meg of
RAM. Check out www.times2tech for details. If you're familiar
with Mack Baggette, you know the quality of his work. This
unit was upgraded when new, and is pristine, great screen,
tight hinge, etc. How's $375 sound ?
Thanks and kind regards,


Ken

--- end of forwarded message ---

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           --- HP200LX & BayPac.. QRP Packet At It's Best! ---
           ---- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key ----

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:09:09 EDT
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In a message dated 6/26/99 9:56:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jeffj@SCOTT.NET
writes:

> Here's what I've got;
>
>
>  (1) HP200LX with Times2Tech TechSpeed and TechRAM
>  upgrade. Translates to a doublespeed CPU and 5 Meg of
>  RAM. Check out www.times2tech for details. If you're familiar
>  with Mack Baggette, you know the quality of his work. This
>  unit was upgraded when new, and is pristine, great screen,
>  tight hinge, etc. How's $375 sound ?
>  Thanks and kind regards,
>
>
>  Ken
>
Thaddeus computing sells the same configuration cheaper.

glenn

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:37:54 +0000
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              Kat Deutscher <katd@CWIX.COM>
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> > <snipped relevant stuff>

> How busy are you? I have a CASIO QV-11 camera that the
> darn on/off switch separated from it's connectors.

Hey! My QV-11 has a flaky on/off switch too.  Could it
be part of the BG-MS-OS conspiracy?  It became
faulty right about the time I realized I hadn't
upgraded anything recently....


Kat
--
K.Deutscher  -  katd@cwix.com  -  TheOpr@aol.com

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:08:28 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Al Creswell wrote:
> the  server once they've been downloaded to the 200.  I
> have the box checked next to "Delete from Server", but
> it
> still will not delete them...I downloaded the same 6
> messages time after time.

Messages usually are deleted from a POP3 server at the end of the
session (and just marked for deletion during the session). It could be
that the transfer limit (16k) of the demo version is not enough for a
complete session downloading 6 messages and saying "goodbye" to the
server in a proper manner. You might want to try with just one or two
shorter messages.

Andreas

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:08:31 +0100
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Bob Newins wrote:

> Just tried the FIFO=1 in the ATT section of www.cfg.  It works
> considerably faster with my Apex Data 33.6 card modem. (Big Grin).  So
> now not only is ATT working again, but it is much faster.

I am glad it works for you. Also I start wondering if FIFO=1 should be
the default after all. So far I have not heard about any cases where
FIFO=1 did cause a problem (other than it just simply had no effect
because the UART did not support it).

Andreas

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:26:15 EDT
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Get the 1000, because it is a 200LX with DOS 5.0, but without the system
manager PIM apps, Lotus or Pocket Quicken.  In their place, you can either
run PIMs and other DOS apps that you already have, or find suitable
substitutes in shareware or freeware on the Web.  It has more memory capacity
and a better viewing screen, and is more expandable than the 95LX, plus other
less obvious hardware enhancements.  However, in fairness, you should ask
yourself whether you are self-sufficient enough to enjoy this "bare-bones"
version of the palmtop.  And you should be aware that, according to recent
discussions on this list, HP will discontinue manufacturing its DOS palmtop
product line before the end of this year, so in either case, you will be
buying a useful machine but basically a historical artifact.

-roger-

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:41:27 EDT
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And I've sent this directly to HP on their handheld website feedback page.
I'll let you know what they come back with.

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:17:48 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tech:Need Help-Post/LX Won't Delete Msgs
Comments: To: al.creswell@ATT.NET
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> I recently got Post/LX set up to work correctly in demo
>    mode, and have been successfully downloading email,
>    however I cannot get the program to delete the msgs

It may be because of the demo mode.  I think that the way post works is
that it does not necessarily write the list of msg id's until it has
finished and it may be that since the download is not completed it does
not write the list and therefore, has no record of what was downloaded
and therefore can't tell the server which ones to delete.


But I'm sure - I delete manually, generally on the next run.  I'm not
sure if this stuff is detailed i the docs.

Someone with more info might answer the query.

But I do know POST/lx works with AT&T as that is where I get the hplist
delivered.

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15h15m50s ago ...
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Stephen Petty wrote:

> Awhile back there was a URL or an email address for Kento Byron
> who was selling XJ2144 modems for 12.99.
> I had the email as Kento@eznet.com, but this is being bounced back
> with errors. Can anyone recall the correct address?

     Try kento@eznet.net ;-)

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:36:19 +0000
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Does anyone know which version of Software Carousel will work best on the
HP1000CX palmtop?

1.  Old version 6.x distributed by Softlogic Solutions and Sunshine but
designed for "standard" desktop/laptop PCs?

2.  Newer version 7.x distributed by Sunshine and Thaddeus but designed for
HP100LX and HP200LX?

I recall reading on our HPLX-List several weeks (months?) ago that the
"palmtop" version required some special modifications but I don't know
whether they were due only to the system manager on the HP100/200LXs or
whether they also applied to charateristics of all HP100/200/1000 series
palmtops.

TIA.

=======================
>Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:26:15 EDT
>From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
>Subject:      Re: Opinion
>
>Get the 1000, because it is a 200LX with DOS 5.0, but without the system
>manager PIM apps, Lotus or Pocket Quicken.  In their place, you can either
>run PIMs and other DOS apps that you already have, or find suitable
>substitutes in shareware or freeware on the Web.  It has more memory capacity
>and a better viewing screen, and is more expandable than the 95LX, plus other
>less obvious hardware enhancements.  However, in fairness, you should ask
>yourself whether you are self-sufficient enough to enjoy this "bare-bones"
>version of the palmtop.  And you should be aware that, according to recent
>discussions on this list, HP will discontinue manufacturing its DOS palmtop
>product line before the end of this year, so in either case, you will be
>buying a useful machine but basically a historical artifact.

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:25:04 +0100
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Hi everyone,

some time ago I posted a question about the inverse exclamation
mark apearing while editing in VDE, here is the explaination
from the docs:

"Since soft hyphens aren't universally supported, when
reformatting rejoins a word at an ordinary hyphen, VDE can't be
sure whether it was spensable or not.  To be safe, VDE leaves
the hyphen in place, but also puts a placemark there to call
your attention to it.  If you want to   remove it you can easily
do so with ¬QM, ÝDel¨."

So the inversed exclamation mark is the mentioned placemark.


Reinhard


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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:22:14 GMT
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Mack,

Russell Brooks wrote:
> Anyone using an external modem via the serial port, like I do,
> should not use the alternate setting because we rely on the HP's
> UART.  It is safer to make users turn a feature on rather than
> expecting them to know when to turn it off.

Wasn't it possible to replace the HP's UART by another _with_ this
buffer (16550?) ?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:23:08 -0400
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> I am looking to get a palmtop. Unfortunately my wife has set a limit. =
All I
> seem to be able to afford is a 1000cx, or a 95 lx. What would be the =
down
> falls to one of these? I want all the look and feel of the 200 lx and =
the
> kind of programs it has. Can I reproduce these qualities on these two
> machines? I would also like web browsing capabilities, is that possible =
on
> the 95?

Save some more $ until you can afford the 200LX or don't tell
your wife (g). 95LX has smaller screen, less software and eats
batteries faster :-(

HP Staber/Salzburg

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I know that Jkit works on a double speeded palmtop but can it also be
installed on the C drive instead of A?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:45:12 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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There is a new standard for webpages on cellullarphones and palmtops.
WAP is the new way to present information on a phone, using WML
(wireless markup language).
There is no standard jet, but its round the corner.
This could improve the "surfability" on the hp.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:24:09 -0500
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Can someone with a owner's manual tell me how many milliamps @ 12vDC the
200LX needs/wants?

Jeff

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Hi

I've recently upgraded to www/LX ver 2.1a and am experiencing the "hang,
requiring a cntrl-shft-on to reset as a few sites.

If possible could somebody email me a copy of www.exe V2.0 until the HTTP
issue is resolived???

Many Thanks

Dave

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Minimum 750ma

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Hi,

have a look at www.kento.com .
There you should find also kento's email address.

> Awhile back there was a URL or an email address for Kento Byron
> who was selling XJ2144 modems for 12.99.
> I had the email as Kento@eznet.com, but this is being bounced back
> with errors. Can anyone recall the correct address?

GTX
daniel

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The OB800CT seems to have a non-standard SCSI adapter port.  Has anyone ever
found a good source for ready-made or custom cables that are longer than,
say, the cable that came with the HP CD-ROM accessory?  Thanks for any info.

-roger-

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I am about to buy a Casio QV-700 digital camera.
Apparently it uses the smal compact flash card.
I would like to use it in my hp and was wondering if it is possible to
buy a PCMCIA converter that allows compact flash cards to be used i the
ordinary hp200lx PCMCIA slot?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:39:05 -0400
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Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:30:42 -0400 (EDT)

02m51s ago ...
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> wondering if it is possible to
> buy a PCMCIA converter that allows compact flash cards to be used i the
> ordinary hp200lx PCMCIA slot?

Yep.  The adapters are fairly easily available.  Some CF cards are even
sold with the adapter.

-Peniel
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Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:33:47 -0400 (EDT)

03h09m38s ago ...
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Can someone with a owner's manual tell me how many milliamps @ 12vDC =
the
> 200LX needs/wants?

The manual says 750 mA.  Hard to imagine any conditions where the
palmtop would actually need this much, though.  750 mA @ 12V is 9
watts...  I'm sure someone on the list has probably measured worst-case
current draw.

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On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:27:51 +0200, Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM> =
wrote:

> I would like to use it in my hp and was wondering if it is possible to
> buy a PCMCIA converter that allows compact flash cards to be used i the
> ordinary hp200lx PCMCIA slot?

Yes.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:54:38 +1200
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Subject:      Re: HP Departing the 200LX Market Place
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Lynn M Cavendish wrote:

>Could we all possibly consider getting a grip?
>HP did us a tremendous service by creating the wonderful 95/100/200LX
series
>of computers.  We all have them....
>We are the lucky ones.  Lets try to enjoy it.

Finally, the voice of reason and reality.
When are you running for President, Lynn?

Cheers, Roger

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>  Now here's an interesting item...  A 90 GB storage device, the size
> of a poker chip!
http://www.accpc.com/tcapstore.htm

Steve

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:46:58 -0500
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BTW-- I ran across this URL at Slashdot, and the general consensus there
is that it is a hoax. Oh well.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Dowell ÝSMTP:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 6:35 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      90 GB Storage Device...
>
> >  Now here's an interesting item...  A 90 GB storage device, the size
> > of a poker chip!
> http://www.accpc.com/tcapstore.htm
>
> Steve
>
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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:18:50 -0300
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Aguien por ahi me podria pasar datos o direcciones para conseguir accesorios
para la 200LX

Gracias

Luis Prado

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:43:01 +0000
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Andreas,

I have my Zoom Pocket 14.4 with me, so I will test it with this setup and =
report back in a day or two.  I'll have to test it with the ATT 800# as =
I'm in an area with no local access.   =3DBob=3D

=BBAlso I start wondering if FIFO=3D1 should be the default after all.=AB

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Andreas,

FIFO=3D1 works fine with the external pocket modem.  Works at the normal
previous speed where FIFO=3D0 is the default.  Now back to the 33.6 Apex
card. (G)    =3DBob=3D

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Minimum 750ma

Doing what?  The book may say 750 but if you measure the current
supplied from an external supply you'll see it varies greatly
depending what is going on.  I did this some time back and I
seem to remember it being as low as 20-30ma powered on but no
modems or serial stuff going on.

cheers... Russ

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> Wasn't it possible to replace the HP's UART by another _with_ this
> buffer (16550?) ?

PCs using old serial cards with 8250 UARTS could easily replace
them with 16550s.  I don't think the LX's would be easy or even
possible.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:23:41 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Wisdom

>>From www.hplx.net
>>BuyComp - This vendor is the all-time evil vendor. If life were Star
Wars,
>BuyComp would be the Emperor. Or maybe not.> They're so incompetent,
they'd
>probably be a bumbling storm trooper. They take orders for products,
>claiming to have >them in stock, AND CHARGE YOUR CREDIT CARD RIGHT THEN,
>and
>never deliver the product, even if you order it >with second-day
shipping.
>They respond to customer service requests quickly, but their response to
>questions is: "That
>
>The SAME thing happened to me.I ordered it Monday second day delivery. I
>ordered late, so it would be scheduled to get here Thursday. It did not
>arrive, I called - it is out of stock. Hmmm. Web Site says it is there.
You
>TOLD me on Monday it was in stock. Who should I kill? (JOKE)

  Well, I must say that they bent over backwards to fix a problem for me,
but only because their own salesperson gave me bad information in person
and put in my order for me via the web, from their own office while I
gave them my order by phone.

  It made no difference that I noticed that their web site listed "no
adapter" next to other entries of compact flash cards for sale and
therefore implied that the one I ordered did indeed come with an adapter.
They claimed that the manufacturer controls the descriptions of products
that are placed on their website and that accuracy of the descriptions is
not their responsibility.

  What DID make a difference is that I had personally contacted a rep via
phone (the old fashioned way) and the rep verified that that CF card did
come with an adapter, and then put the order in for me through their own
office connection to the web. (My web browser wasn't able to adequately
access the payment section of their website.)

  I got the CF card in a timely manner, but it came without the verbally
promised adapter.

  After talking to management about it, and them verifying that their rep
did indeed uttered something _verbally_ that was "misleading", they
agreed to send me an adapter, free of charge. They did just that. :-)

  The bottom line?  It seems to pay to do things the old fashioned way if
there is any doubt at all about any item listing on a cut-rate website,
even if one must go against the tide to do it that way. The old fashioned
uttered word seems to be much more binding than anything on a web page,
since it seems that the buck can be passed indefinitely for anything in
writing on a web page.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michgan

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:03:56 -0400
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Subject:      ÝFluff¨ Re: HP Departing the 200LX Market Place

Message-Id: <19990628040403.LKQF1709@Ý12.72.155.100¨>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:04:03 +0000

Now that the glum news and rumors have made their rounds along with the
usual WinCE bashing, I just thought I'd share some sci-fi trivia that
mirrors the ascendance of WinCE/Pilot over the abandoned DOS platform...

I just finished watching a B grade movie called "Soldier", a futuristic
sci-fi starring Kurt Russell as a veteran professional soldier (Sargeant
Todd) who's cast out by his employers in favor of a newer breed of
genetically engineered supermen with more strength, stamina and faster
reflexes.

In the movie's only saving grace, Todd acts in defense of a band of people
who befriended him when they are targeted for killing by the new
super-soldiers, and his superior experience and cunning results in the
decimation of the "new breed" soldiers.... to which Todd's old commander
quips to the commander of the super-soldiers... "maybe instead of making
them faster, you should've made 'em smarter".

Somehow, I couldn't help but feel more than just a twinge of irony in
watching that..indeed there's more to getting the job done than shoving
megahertz and megabytes down our throats. ÝDisclaimer: otherwise, this was
the usual blood and guts fare that's our American way of life (and
death)... I'd hardly recommend it to anyone else.. except maybe Jeff Johns
<g>.¨

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:50:05 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Compact flash in hp200lx (and Casio QV-700)?
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Someone already picked this up, but just make sure that the adapter is PCMCIA
Type II, so you know it will fit the LX slot.

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:56:06 EDT
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Roger, Roger. (I'll bet you get a lot of that too, huh?).  Hey, in the final
analysis, I'm hunkered down here and, except for less than a handful of
software titles, I've got what I need to do my thing until the next great
palmtop comes along.  But it's a crying shame.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:13:59 EDT
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I agree.  Let's recruit Kurt Russell, kill them all and get it over with.
<hoo-hah>..

-roger-

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:28:37 EDT
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In a message dated 6/27/99 12:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
d.hertrich@GMX.DE writes:

>
>  Wasn't it possible to replace the HP's UART by another _with_ this
>  buffer (16550?) ?

The only way I can see of accomplishing this is through a PCMCIA serial card
and driver, but I don't know of any offhand that are proven compatible with
the LX.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:40:39 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Wasn't it possible to replace the HP's UART by another _with_ this
> buffer (16550?) ?

That would be great, but I believe the UART is part of the hornet chip
and therefore it is almost impossible to replace.

Andreas

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:43:04 -0700
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Don E. Weatherly wrote:
>
> Does anyone know which version of Software Carousel will work best on the
> HP1000CX palmtop?
>
> 1.  Old version 6.x distributed by Softlogic Solutions and Sunshine but
> designed for "standard" desktop/laptop PCs?
>
> 2.  Newer version 7.x distributed by Sunshine and Thaddeus but designed for
> HP100LX and HP200LX?
>
> I recall reading on our HPLX-List several weeks (months?) ago that the
> "palmtop" version required some special modifications but I don't know
> whether they were due only to the system manager on the HP100/200LXs or
> whether they also applied to charateristics of all HP100/200/1000 series
> palmtops.
>
> TIA.
>
> =======================
> >Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:26:15 EDT
> >From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
> >Subject:      Re: Opinion
> >
> >Get the 1000, because it is a 200LX with DOS 5.0, but without the system
> >manager PIM apps, Lotus or Pocket Quicken.  In their place, you can either
> >run PIMs and other DOS apps that you already have, or find suitable
> >substitutes in shareware or freeware on the Web.  It has more memory capacity
> >and a better viewing screen, and is more expandable than the 95LX, plus other
> >less obvious hardware enhancements.  However, in fairness, you should ask
> >yourself whether you are self-sufficient enough to enjoy this "bare-bones"
> >version of the palmtop.  And you should be aware that, according to recent
> >discussions on this list, HP will discontinue manufacturing its DOS palmtop
> >product line before the end of this year, so in either case, you will be
> >buying a useful machine but basically a historical artifact.
>
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Don are you still thinking about getting a HP1000LX?

If not I still have my HP200LX 5mb doublespeed and ABC/LX Battery
Monitoring Software

with 4 pack of rechargeable batteries. $300.00. drop the price to get
you interested

(smile)                Let me know              Bob Elliott

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:19:40 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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The tip about "Rename" does not work for me.

Ren *.* *.txt does not work if the file is on a window$95 machine and
the files are in the format:
a.abc.b.g.dffdf.123.34

Any more ideas?

> A bit off topic but here goes:
>
> How do I convert a directory containing a bunch of different filetypes to
> lets say .TXT. (they are always different)
> It is ok to just add a extension like:
> hoho.hej  ->  hoho.hej.txt
>
> I would like to make a batch file that adds .TXT to all the files in
> the directory
>
> any ideas.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:28:47 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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Where and in which file do you add the line:

FIFO=1

Thanks

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302

>
>FIFO=1 works fine with the external pocket modem.  Works at the normal
>previous speed where FIFO=0 is the default.  Now back to the 33.6 Apex
>card. (G)    =Bob=

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:14:21 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Bob Newins wrote:

> I have my Zoom Pocket 14.4 with me, so I will test it with this setup
> and report back in a day or two.

If this is an external modem, there is no need to test. FIFO=1 *does*
work with the built-in serial port (well, it does not really *work*
because the port has no buffer, but it does not cause any problems).

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:57:38 PDT
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              David Cripps <david_cripps@HOTMAIL.COM>
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>Can someone with a owner's manual tell me how many milliamps
>@ 12vDC the200LX needs/wants?

Jeff

Measured this recently, so depending on what you have..
Note: All measured at 12V input:

Single Speed 4MB unit in App Mgr        22mA
Single Speed in DOS                     40mA
Single Speed with Flash in AppMge       40mA
Single Speed with Flash in DOS          40mA

Double Sp 64M unit in App Mgr           28mA
Double Sp 64M unit in DOS               55mA
Double Sp 64M unit & Soft Carousel      55mA
Double Sp 64M with Flash in AppMge      55mA
Double Sp 64M with Flash in DOS         55mA

DS in DOS & Psion Modem (offline)       110mA
DS in DOS & Psion Modem (online)        280mA !
DS in DOS & Accton NIC                  85mA
DS in DOS & Accton NIC Telnet ses       95mA
DS in DOS with Megahertz Modem (offline)70mA
DS in DOS with Megahertz Modem (online) 175mA

So a double speed takes about 30% more current! and the
power management in application manager saves about 50%.
Inserting a flash card disables power management.

I hope this is what you were after?

Dave
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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:53 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> > It is probably punishment because you use such a long sig block! :-)
> >
> >   Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
>
> Yes...it is probably because of the sig...but its gone now...  ;-)
>
> Martin

So I see! You didn't really believe my theory on punishment,
did you? :-)

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:25 -0700
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> I've just got my registered version of WWW-LX (V2.1) and am having the
> hanging problem, can anybody point me to a location for the older V2.0
> to download, until the newer (V2.2??) is available?

It is available. If you still have problems can you contact me
directly on support@dasoft.com? I am in London now for a few
days, will be glad to help out...

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:20 -0700
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Jan,

> >Just in case there is a misunderstanding: I do not use the Nikon for the
> purpose of loading images. I use the Canon A5 Zoom.<
>
> No misunderstanding here <g>. I know you are using another camera than

Good, I spoke of all three cameras in my post and did not want
to leave the impression the Nikon can upload, i just did not
try it. Am sorry the Nikon is not letting you do this!

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> ...but I do like the HP one, even if we don't get the folding
> pins of the US model.  Otherwise I'll get bits from Rundel in
> Germany.

it occurs to me that you can obtain the US model with folding
legs and use it in UK, since it operates on 100-240V. All
you'd need is a simple adapter for the three-prong plug. I
also see plugs here with a round prong, and they seem to be
spaced and formed just so you could use the US prongs
directly, if you have such a plug.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:11 -0700
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Al,

I am several days behind on messages ...

> set it up such that responces go to a unique mailbox(seems my
> palmtop.com would be appropriate) collate the info after a week and
> send the results to the LIST(will keep individuals anonymous). If there
> any specific questions you(or anyone) would like asked, let me know.

I don't have specific questions right now, but if you can post
the questionnaire here (or email) it may bring up some
inspiration.

Remember, I am satisfied with the results I have already
collected :) ... But seriously, I'd like to see what you have
in mind. Anyone else might want to put in their questions in?
This may be a good opportunity for that.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:29 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon
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Tim,

> It seems to me that ever since HP moved their palmtop division to Singapore,
> things have gone downhill (with respect to the LX series)
> The calculator division was also moved to Singapore, then to Australia:

The moves were motivated by economic reality. HP as a
corporation wanted to improve sales and profitability.
Singapore won because it had such a low cost. This is no
longer true for some segments of the product line. Singapore
seems to suffer from a familiar syndrome: Not invented here.
Coupled with the loss of some of the engineering talent, they
were strapped into manufacturing only, in the 200LX side.

The Omnigo 1xx family experiment had a few fantastic
improvements which showed that Singapore _could_ do well, but
the flop really hurt and I bet they could not get management
to risk it again.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:35 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, HP a big user....
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David,

> The 200LX travels rather nicely in my back pocket. I just
> don't have what it takes to stay tethered to a laptop or
> coat-pocket machine at work.

Hope you travel standing only! :) That backpocket thing for
palmtops is deadly! One should carry WinCE devices there... :)

I totally agree with the notion of tethered vs. untethered
working style.

Admittedly I carried my HP OB800CT to London with me. I have
to admit that there are two main reasons:

1. To help manage the pictures from my digital camera beeter.
I am building a private Webpage with a travellog of the trip
and I simply want to massage the images better than I can do
on the palmtop.

2. It is easier for me to receive faxes on the notebook than
on the palmtop.

Otherwise all the work is done on the palmtop.

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Chris,=20

> Does anyone else on the list live in London?
  Ý...¨
> "Nothing ever beat them", I said.
> "I quite agree", he replied, pulling a 200 from his pocket!
 =20
At the moment and for next 7 days I live in London too :).=20
I should pull out this contraption out of my pocket more
often, maybe I'll gather a user group meeting, impromptu! :-)=20

> . I also got a new modem for =A350. It's a 33.6, but only draws 100mA m=
ax
> (according to the tech bit in the manual), so I can use it in the HP an=
d
> my laptop (at the higher speeds).

That is a good find. What is the maker? I use an Apex 33.6 but
it draws 138mA.=20

> Next stop is upgrading to double speed and more RAM. My wife will just
> have to eat less, that's all! Anyway, I bought it for her, honest ;-)

I have 2 64MBs and a 32MB with me. You want to meet with me?
email. (I remember when you purchased WWW/LX - my mothers
birthday :) ...)=20

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Roger,

> "Eye candy" is an apt description.

Yes, I agree. But in truth, the masses are much dumber than
the group here and color is a nice attractive point.
Especially when you come out pompously and say: We now can let
you compose (not write, "compose" is a "big" word) your
document on Pocket Word. In COLOR!!!

Wow! The astonished moron's eyes a wide open, filled with awe,
as he contemplates the immense possibilities: Duh, ugh,
agbaga, compose, hmmm... what's a compose? like, eh, compost?

Then the salesman twists his arm backwards, help him grasp his
wallet and removes it from the backpocket. With the deft help
of the salesman, he empties the content on the table, and
there among the marbles, the old gum wrapped in aluminum foil,
is a credit card. Thwaank! Thwaaank! Done deal - You now put
the X right here on the signature line. Good boy! Now take
this box and get the hell out of here!

When the zombie wakes and has a question (where is the on
button?) the salesman says, oh sorry, that model has been
obsolete for awhile now, I guess 2.5 hours. We don't support
it anymore. Here is the newer model, it'll be much better for
you.

> already been devised for the LX platform.  (For corporate users, the Palm VII
> is offering a more interesting wireless e-mail and web-browsing solution.)

If you look closer at the PalmPilot VII offering you'll find
that it is expensive (about $40/mo., it is extremely limited -
only a handful of Webpages now, it is limited in range, only
260 major cities across the US of which only parts of New York
City are now covered, and AFAIK no specific dates for other
locations, and on and on.

BTW, I love the PalmPilot (Thanks, Al!) I use it occasionally,
and I find it a nice platform. By far more useful than the
WinCE machines I have been testing...

> (I'd be positively embarrassed to pull a Rex out of my pocket
> in polite company, and maybe even in front of total strangers
> too.)

That's some brag to call it Rex, oh, oops, you mean that
PCMCIA card... :-) .... I have one of these too, and it is
neat! With the IBM 110 it is even usable marginally. I think
if we could get the driver for it onto the palmtop (legally)
it can become a nicer tool.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:54:50 -0700
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David, And Bob, and others...

> I also am an occaisional HV user. I use it for work when I have a series of
> HTML pages to read through and I need to "free up" my desktop for its main

I appreciate the feedback. I proposed that this info be
collected by someone other than myself, that participants
identity can be verified, i.e. no multiple entries by one
person ("stuffing the ballot boxes"). (Not trying to imply
that anyone has done that, of course!)

The info is important to us certainly, but I suggest that
other vendors can use it as well for their plans. That is why
it is important that the reliability of the information is is
high. In addition to HV usage patterns, perhaps more questions
can be asked, to add to the usefulness of the questionnaire.

In any case, to protect and assure the privacy of the
participants, and to raise the quality of responses, I suggest
that the names and emails would not be provided to any vendor,
and in fact after compilation and verification, that the names
and emails be destroyed.

> use with my palmtop. The instructions were all in HTML. They are now all on
> my palmtop and I can read them in bed,at the bus stop or wherever.

in most cases, this type of material complies with HTML 3.2
and HV currently supports it. The support of tables is not
along the lines of Netscape and MSIE, nor is frames support
done in the fashion these "big boys" do it. There are severe
limitations on the 200LX screen size - just not enough to play
in...

But in general, you should be able to use these kinds of
"manuals" with no troubles to the extent that the palmtop
allows it. (I.e. red text won't show differently from blue!)

> I find HV to be an invaluable tool when I need it and am amazed at what it CAN
> do on my lowly single speed 80186! I have not been disappointed and am VERY
> greatful to Avi and Andreas for releasing it as it is.

The gratefulness to me is misplaced, I am just a small part of
this. Andreas is the real "hero" in this! (... and many other
items of exquisite programming!)

> In a nutshell - let's not bite the hand that feeds us!

ROFL ... I think most people know that I bite back,
unhesitatingly! :-) ... Andreas, OTOH, I am not sure... I'll
have to teach him that when I see him in a little over a
week's time.

Hey David, maybe you can help me put a lesson plan? <G> I got
the alphabets, did you get my package? I am moving among two
machines now so I did not want to use the letters yet!

Anyway, I posted this to tell you, Bob, and others that the
feedback is great, and that you guys should all put your heads
together with David Sargeant or Al, or both get some online
questionnaire going and let the vendors in on waht you plan to
ask so they can also add their two shekels (agorot? Grushim?)
to the plan.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:47 -0700
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Daniel,

Let's do some math. The FAT structure on the palmtop can
address no more than 65535 clusters. So you have only limted
opportunities. See below...

  CLUSTERS REQUIRED:

                     ------------- Cluster Sizes -------------
  MB        Bytes       512     1024     2048     4096    8192
  32   33,554,432    65,536   32,768   16,384    8,192   4,096
  40   41,943,040    81,920   40,960   20,480   10,240   5,120
  48   50,331,648    98,304   49,152   24,576   12,288   6,144
  96  100,663,296   196,608   98,304   49,152   24,576  12,288
 160  167,772,160   327,680  163,840   81,920   40,960  20,480
 225  235,929,600   460,800  230,400  115,200   57,600  28,800
 512  536,870,912 1,048,576  524,288  262,144  131,072  65,536

For example: A 40MB disk formatted for 512 byte clusters will
need 81,920 clusters to get all the storage covered.

For example: With 4096 clusters you need only 24,576 clusters
to cover a 96MB card.

Obviously, if your formatting requires more than 65,536
clusters, then you do not address all the space on the card
and there is waste. Here is a table for that:

  MB   512 Waste 1024 Waste 2048 Waste 4096 Waste 8192 Waste
  32     0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
  40     8   20%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
  48    16   33%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
  96    64   67%   16   17%    0    0%    0    0%    0    0%
 160   128   80%   48   30%    8    5%    0    0%    0    0%
 225   193   86%   81   36%   24   11%    0    0%    0    0%
 512   480   94%  224   44%   96   19%   32    6%    0    0%

In this table it shows in MB and % that a 512 byte clustersize
wastes 480MB (94%) of the 512MB card. On a 40MB card this
clustersize wastes 8MB (20%).

The last item you need to concern yourself with is the slack.
This refers to the amount of cluster not beinf used.

You need to know that each file is allocated on a cluster
boundary, i.e. in whole clusters. If you have a 2 byte file on
a drive with 512 byte clusters, the slack would be 510 bytes.
On a drive formatted with 8192 clustersize, this file will
have a slack of 8190 bytes. Slack cannot be be reused, i.e. it
is wasted.

As another example take a file 8190 bytes long. It will occupy
one cluster in a 8192-cluster formatted drive with only 2
bytes slack. It will occupy 16 clusters on a 512-cluster
formatted drive with also 2 bytes slack. The 8192 drive will
be a bit more efficient to access the file (one access against
the FAT will tell where the file is) than the 512 cluster,
where it would take multiple accesses to the FAT to find out
all the clusters that have been allocated to the file.

The program itself BOOTDMOD will work fine, but you may want
to be careful what you do... The info above will give you some
insight.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:54:46 -0700
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> My problem with downloading from the D&A ftp site with WWW/LX
> & HV has been resloved.

Good!

> I just had to comment out the ftp line in my hv.cfg.
>
> ;ftp=a:\hv\ftp.exe %s
>
> It appears WWW/LX has built-in ftp support without ftp.exe,
> and thats new to me.

Within WWW/LX the client you call HV is the one that has the
file transferring support. It has been there forever. It is
just like any other browser in that regards.

> To think that all of this time I'v been using my desktop for
> downloading from D&A. Today is a great day for downloading.
> (:-¨

ROFL!!! The ISPs are groaning...

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:12:30 +0800
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Curtis, when an error is shown, is there some way of finding out the
offending entry so that it can be corrected?

TIA

At 11:52 PM 22-06-1999 Tuesday +0000, Curtis Cameron wrote:
>I've just posted version 1.0 of the DBCHECK program which I hope can
>find errors in ADB, PDB, GDB, NDB, and WDB files. The program returns
>a result in DOS's ERRORLEVEL variable so you can use it in a batch
>file, and not back up corrupted files.
>
>I'm not sure that the most common database errors will be detected, so
>if you find a ?DB file with a problem not detected, please let me
>know!
>
>The file is available on my palmtop web page:

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Message text written by Jeff Johns
>Viva Mir!<

I see that there's a PBS show coming next week about one of the disasters=

on MIR. Check your local listings (It may be a NOVA rerun).

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Vic:

> Why should it be any different in Europe than here? The adapter
> is rated for 100 to 240 volts.
>
> Vic
>
> > Does anyone know about the "care and feeding" of the battery/charger of
> the OB
> > 800CT in UK? In Switzerland? Other European countries?
> >
> >   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
> >   http://www.dasoft.com

Well, I posted this what seems to be ages ago! I was beginning
my preparations to go to Europe. I then went to the east coast
for some time and I am now in London, UK, for the third day!
:)

You take time to send helpful advice, don't you? <G>... I know
you are also travelling, just could not resist the rib. :)
Where are you?

Anyway, let me tell you that it is indeed a 110-240 volt box.
But you know what stands in the way? The dumb plug! I have an
adapter which changes the plug from a UK 3 prong, to a US two
prong, but the third prong on the plug has no place to go!
I.e. stalemate, knockout, unless I can find away to use that
plug (suggestions welcome - but please y'all - don't get
personally physical about what to do with the plug prong :-) )

My 110V modem is also not useful, can't feed it 240V. Apex
33.6 card is doing famously well!

Compuserve number behaves well here (Thanks, Tony! I succeeded
the first time, and my friend did too.)

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:26:52 -0500
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> be written for best efficiency.  Then I scrap the prototype and write =
the
> release version.  In my view, HV is still a prototype until it is =
completely
> rewritten inside and out.
>
> ian Butler / ian@hplx.net

Just a comment on this subject.  I purchased WWW/LX a while back for
the ability to both send & receive email & to browse the web.  Before I
purchased WWW/LX, I did all of web browsing, and emailing from either
my desktop or from my laptop.  Since purchasing WWW/LX, I send &
receive all of my email using my LX.  I try to do most all my web
browsing from my LX, but more and more I run into web sites that WWW/LX
(HV) will not serve me on.  Such examples are when I try to find out
what is playing at a certain movie theater by visiting The Detroit
News's website.  I am not able to retrieve the info I need, because the
pages contain frames, and I get these messages telling me to upgrade my
browser.  I find I am running into this more and more.  I do not do
anything fancy on the web, just simple browsing.  I am more than
willing to give up all the pretty color images, to be able to just
retrieve the info I need from my LX.  I usually just go looking for some
quick info, then retrieve it, save it, and print it, all from my LX.  I
really wish that HV could be updated/upgraded to keep up with all the
latest industry standards.  I would gladly pay for the upgrade.  I do
not feel space is a big issue, because of all the RAM disk upgrades
available for the LX now available.  In fact I have all the data I use
regularly, including WWW/LX, all my appointments, phone books, spread
sheets, Quicken data, etc., loaded on my 8 meg LX, and I have 6.2 meg
still available.  I use flash cards to store all my other programs that
I do not use daily.  So if HV needs to grow slightly then I am willing
to give it the space needed to be able to view all the web pages I wish
to browse.  Just to repeat, I would be happy to pay for this upgrade.
Every other piece of software I own costs a lot, so why not consider
Ian's suggestion, and take it back to the programming board.  It sure
would be nice to be able to continue to use HV to browse all the web
pages that I may wish to go to.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:39:12 +0100
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Well I could use the US power supply and an adapter...but then it's as big as the UK power supply.  If I travelled to the US more I would do; I have a US power cord for my laptop (which also has a 110/240v brick) for just that space-saving reason.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:13:05 -0500
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La direccion donde comienza la diversion es en :

http://www.amd.com/products/lpd/32bitcont.html

en la seccion de embedded processors.

El ElanSC400, es por supuesto el mejorcito

si alguno de uds se anima a traerlo de eua (yo lo intentaria pero hacia
fin de ano cuando vaya de nuevo (quiza sep u oct)), me anoto...

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:32:34 +0100
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Robert Hocking wrote:
> So if HV needs to grow slightly then I am willing
> to give it the space needed

Please have a look at the size of the latest NetScape or IE. Divide it
by 5 for bloat and then compare the result with the size of HV. This is
about how much it would have to "slightly" grow to support all that
nonsense bells and whistles required to do "simple Web browsing" (e.g.
many pages implement links withJavascript that could be done with a simple
HTML linkt; it adds zero functionality, but requires that the
browser has a Javascript interpreter built-in). The problem is not that
the browser does not support any direly needed functionality. The main
problem is the realy, really bad design of many Web pages out there.

> Every other piece of software I own costs a lot, so why not consider
> Ian's suggestion, and take it back to the programming board.

Yes! Let Mr Butler do it! He is so amazingly intelligent and knows
everything about other people's products better than they do
themselves. He must be such a genious that I am sure he will rewrite HV
in a day or two.

Andreas

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A Meshar wrote:
> ROFL ... I think most people know that I bite back,
> unhesitatingly! :-) ... Andreas, OTOH, I am not sure...

You know that I am vegetarian! ;-)

Andreas

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:43:06 GMT
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Hi friends,

I remember there was somewhere a site which listed all of us (the
members of this list) on the web.

Does anyone know the URL?

TNX
daniel

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Hi Andreas,

> I suspect the proxy supports HTTP 1.1 and thus will do fancy things
> with the requests of the latest WWW.EXE. I suggest to remove the proxy
> line until a version of WWW.EXE that fixes this problem becomes
> available.

When will it be finished?
I'm looking forward to get it!

GTX
daniel

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Hi Tomoas,

> I would like to use it in my hp and was wondering if it is possible to
> buy a PCMCIA converter that allows compact flash cards to be used i the
> ordinary hp200lx PCMCIA slot?

Yes. Such an adapter costs around 12-25 US$. It's a PCMCIA card in
which you plug in the CF.
I paid for mine (made by SanDisk) 39 DM, but you should find cheaper
ones!

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

I tried to swap the blue keys with its shifted characters
('!','@','#','$','¬','&','(',')') with KEY200.
I used the following KEY200.INI file:

Shift Filer   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Filer ¬Filer
Filer         : Shift Filer ¬Filer ¬Shift
Shift Appt   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Appt ¬Appt
Appt         : Shift Appt ¬Appt ¬Shift
Shift Phone   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Phone ¬Phone
Phone         : Shift Phone ¬Phone ¬Shift
Shift Memo   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Memo ¬Memo
Memo         : Shift Memo ¬Memo ¬Shift
Shift Quic   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Quic ¬Quic
Quic         : Shift Quic ¬Quic ¬Shift
Shift 123   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift 123 ¬123
123         : Shift 123 ¬123 ¬Shift
Shift Calc   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Calc ¬Calc
Calc         : Shift Calc ¬Calc ¬Shift
Shift More   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift More ¬More
More         : Shift More ¬More ¬Shift

but that didn't work. Shift-Filer gave me the '!' as usual, and 'Filer'
in SysMgr gave me nothing, Shift-Filer in SysMgr gave me only a beep.

I also tried to place _all_ double key macros at the beginning of the
ini file (as suggested by the KEY200 help screen), but this gave me the
same results.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

And please explain, for what is the '¬Shift Shift ¬Shift..." stuff!
(I tried also without the ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift, but also without
success). This ins't logical to me. :-(


TIA
daniel

P.S.: IT definitely doesn't interfere with other key-related TSR. I
tried all this with _no_ other TSRs loaded.

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Hi Glenn,

> I am looking to get a palmtop. Unfortunately my wife has set a limit. All I
> seem to be able to afford is a 1000cx, or a 95 lx. What would be the down

Did you think about buying a used 200LX (from Thaddeus or Thomas
Rundel)? This would be cheaper that a new machine, so you _and_ your
wife would be satisfied... ;-)

GTX
daniel

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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:32:34 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.=
CH> wrote:

> Yes! Let Mr Butler do it! He is so amazingly intelligent and knows
> everything about other people's products better than they do
> themselves. He must be such a genious that I am sure he will rewrite HV
> in a day or two.

Do I sense hostility in the air <g>?

Jeff

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> > I'm willing to pay another $80 for a web browser which continues to
> > work with the *BASIC* new html stuff, not the fancy glitter.
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

Avi, I would glady pay that $80.00 for HV Pro. <g>

Want it in advance?



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
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> Tim <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>
> > I've never been able to make my Apex Data ÝSmart Modular
> > Technologies division¨ "Mobile Plus Cellular" v.34 modem
> > to work w/ my 200LX (or my old 1 MB 100LX, for that matter)
>
> I really cannot see any reason for this because I have the
> same modem and so do others and it works fine with no special
> needs at all.  I suspect your modem may be broken.  You really
> should try it in a different computer to see if it works
> there.
>
> Stan

I think someone has already offered this, but I would be happy to try
out your modem, if you would like.  I too use the same modem, and it
works fine with a landline connection, and has for me been a pain in the
but with my StarTac Cell Phone, but it will work in a pinch.

Also I have the person that is a long time LX user that is a Tech. Sup.
person for APEX, if you want to talk to him.  I am sure he would be
happy to exchange your modem if you suspect it is bad.

Have you tried the modem in a Laptop?



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Manuals in english for this ??

 http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm

Luis Prado
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The modem is made in UK by Grey Cell Systems Ltd. It's a Series 4000. =
Fax/v.34 and also GSM/PCM. It's not an x-jack connector, just a cable, =
and you have to fork out extra (don't know how much) for the GSM cable.

> > . I also got a new modem for =A350. It's a 33.6, but only draws 100mA =
m
> ax
> > (according to the tech bit in the manual), so I can use it in the HP =
an
> d
> > my laptop (at the higher speeds).
>
> That is a good find. What is the maker? I use an Apex 33.6 but
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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:48:30 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     Probably a simple question, but I'm stumped!

I want to define a SubSet of all data that does not have a value
entered in a date field...how?

I tried entering an expression <nn/nn/nn  where nn/nn/nn is the youngest
date in the database field , but no records were selected?

TIA,

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Why don't you just search for null contents on the field.  Using a General
Subset Definition SSL statement like the following should work.

DateField=""

Alan Striegel

>Probably a simple question, but I'm stumped!
>
>I want to define a SubSet of all data that does not have a value
>entered in a date field...how?
>
>I tried entering an expression <nn/nn/nn  where nn/nn/nn is the youngest
>date in the database field , but no records were selected?

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I don't think a date field can use a string test (double-quoted text).

On my database using dates, I have the list sorted descending using the date
field, and noticed that the blank field shows on top.  This would seem to imply
that a blank date is evaluated as a high date, rather than low.  So Al's on the
right track, just wrong direction.

I tried the following SSL and it worked to pick out just the blank date record:

     Date>{1/1/2100}

You may have to experiment with the test date value, but I'd think this would
hold you over for the next 100 years <g>.

Maybe someone else knows what the hard value should be to represent a blank
date.

- Longden





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Why don't you just search for null contents on the field.  Using a General
Subset Definition SSL statement like the following should work.

DateField=""

Alan Striegel

>Probably a simple question, but I'm stumped!
>
>I want to define a SubSet of all data that does not have a value
>entered in a date field...how?
>
>I tried entering an expression <nn/nn/nn  where nn/nn/nn is the youngest
>date in the database field , but no records were selected?

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Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> Do I sense hostility in the air <g>?
>
>

I'd be hositile too if folks kept badgering me the way
Andreas has been badgered.

Can we please let up on this issue? I for one don't want to
drive Andreas from the list or worse to give him reason to
stop dealing with the platform.

As the song says "what part of no don't you understand?"

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> Andreas,
>
> FIFO=3D1 works fine with the external pocket modem.  Works at the =
normal
> previous speed where FIFO=3D0 is the default.  Now back to the 33.6 =
Apex
> card. (G)    =3DBob=3D

Also works with EXP Thinfax 1414 8meg combo modem.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Message text written by INTERNET:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>I want to define a SubSet of all data that does not have a value
entered in a date field...how?<

No problem, Al... well no problem if you read the SSL article in the
Mar/Apr PTP

To find all items with empty date fields, use the SSL code !*datefield
For empty number fields use the code !*numberfieldname
For empty time fields use the code !TimeFldName=3D":" =


The use of a wildcard operator with a fieldname is not supposed to work b=
ut
it does at least for the date and number types of fields.

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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:54:14 -0500 (EST)

Hi Alan & All:

01h41m46s ago ...
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Striegel, Alan wrote:

> Why don't you just search for null contents on the field.  Using a =
General
> Subset Definition SSL statement like the following should work.
>
> DateField=3D""
>
> Alan Striegel
>
> > ...
> >I want to define a SubSet of all data that does not have a value
> >entered in a date field...how?

I tried that, "" implies a string, and the data is a date.

Longden's solution works(for the next 100 yrs ;-) )


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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:56:50 -0500 (EST)

01h19m38s ago ...
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> ...
>
> I tried the following SSL and it worked to pick out just the blank
> date record:
>
>      Date>{1/1/2100}
> ...

Works fine here...Thanks!


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I couldn't get !*datefield to work.

Don.


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Try this

   (Date>{1/1/0000})

Don


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 -----Original Message-----

Hi friends,

I tried to swap the blue keys with its shifted characters
('!','@','#','$','¬','&','(',')') with KEY200.
I used the following KEY200.INI file:

Shift Filer   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Filer ¬Filer
Filer         : Shift Filer ¬Filer ¬Shift
Shift Appt   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Appt ¬Appt
Appt         : Shift Appt ¬Appt ¬Shift
Shift Phone   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Phone ¬Phone
Phone         : Shift Phone ¬Phone ¬Shift
Shift Memo   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Memo ¬Memo
Memo         : Shift Memo ¬Memo ¬Shift
Shift Quic   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Quic ¬Quic
Quic         : Shift Quic ¬Quic ¬Shift
Shift 123   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift 123 ¬123
123         : Shift 123 ¬123 ¬Shift
Shift Calc   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Calc ¬Calc
Calc         : Shift Calc ¬Calc ¬Shift
Shift More   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift More ¬More
More         : Shift More ¬More ¬Shift

but that didn't work. Shift-Filer gave me the '!' as usual, and 'Filer'
in SysMgr gave me nothing, Shift-Filer in SysMgr gave me only a beep.

I also tried to place _all_ double key macros at the beginning of the
ini file (as suggested by the KEY200 help screen), but this gave me the
same results.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

And please explain, for what is the '¬Shift Shift ¬Shift..." stuff!
(I tried also without the ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift, but also without
success). This ins't logical to me. :-(


TIA
daniel

P.S.: IT definitely doesn't interfere with other key-related TSR. I
tried all this with _no_ other TSRs loaded.

---------------------------------------------------------
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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:57:18 -0500
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One of the most informative posts I've ever read.  Thank you.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
The program itself BOOTDMOD will work fine, but you may want
to be careful what you do... The info above will give you some
insight.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:41:21 -0500
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What would you want to rename a.abc.b.g.dffdf.123.34 to?

Don

 -----Original Message-----
The tip about "Rename" does not work for me.

Ren *.* *.txt does not work if the file is on a window$95 machine and
the files are in the format:
a.abc.b.g.dffdf.123.34

Any more ideas?

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:01:59 -0500
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This message belongs in HPLXTIPS.NDB.  It's a keeper.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----

  CLUSTERS REQUIRED:

                     ------------- Cluster Sizes -------------
  MB        Bytes       512     1024     2048     4096    8192
  32   33,554,432    65,536   32,768   16,384    8,192   4,096
  40   41,943,040    81,920   40,960   20,480   10,240   5,120
  48   50,331,648    98,304   49,152   24,576   12,288   6,144
  96  100,663,296   196,608   98,304   49,152   24,576  12,288
 160  167,772,160   327,680  163,840   81,920   40,960  20,480
 225  235,929,600   460,800  230,400  115,200   57,600  28,800
 512  536,870,912 1,048,576  524,288  262,144  131,072  65,536

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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:59:40 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

     There has been some discussion of late as to whether or not there
is merit in rewriting HV to accommodate more functionality. The purpose
of this survey is to determine if this is a worthwhile project or not.

     Unfortunately, HV in its current state is about "maxed out" in terms
of additional functionality. In order to add more features, a major
rewrite will probably be required. In addition, the new program will
probably have to make use of some EMS to add enhanced features...which
would probably preclude running the program on machines with limited
memory.

     It should also be noted, at this time, there are no plans to
rewrite HV. Hopefully this survey will generate interest in doing so!

     Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
purpose. I will strip the return address & signatures (so comments will
remain anonymous), collate the results & post to the HPLX-L LIST
in a week or so...Thanks!

********* BEGIN SURVEY **********

1) Do you use HV to view HTML files on your LX?

     YESÝ ¨    NOÝ ¨

2) Do you use HV in conjunction with WWW/LX to "browse the web"?

     YESÝ ¨    NOÝ ¨

3) If YES to either of the above, how often?

     Less than once a weekÝ ¨

          More than once a week, less than once a dayÝ ¨

               More than once a day Ý ¨


4) Would you like to see more full featured palmtop HTML viewer?
     (for the sake of argument, assume FRAME support, TABLE support,
     HTTPS)

     YESÝ ¨    NOÝ ¨


5) If it were a commercial product, how much would it be worth to you?

     < $20Ý ¨   $20-$40Ý ¨   > $40Ý ¨


6) Would you use this product if it required EMS? (Say 1MB +/-)

     YESÝ ¨    NOÝ ¨


7) Please add any comments:




8) THANKS for Responding!


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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:08:21 GMT
Reply-To:     neil@skipper.demon.co.uk
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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: OB 800CT adapter for European Countries
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:54:55 -0700, A Meshar wrote:

>Well, I posted this what seems to be ages ago! I was beginning
>my preparations to go to Europe. I then went to the east coast
>for some time and I am now in London, UK, for the third day!
>:)

Welcome to the UK, hope you're enjoying your visit. Are you staying in
London, or travelling around?

>Anyway, let me tell you that it is indeed a 110-240 volt box.
>But you know what stands in the way? The dumb plug! I have an
>adapter which changes the plug from a UK 3 prong, to a US two
>prong, but the third prong on the plug has no place to go!
>I.e. stalemate, knockout, unless I can find away to use that
>plug (suggestions welcome - but please y'all - don't get
>personally physical about what to do with the plug prong :-) )

Are you saying the adaptor has 3 prongs? I though US plugs only had two.
I'm sure there are suitable adaptors available. Try any of the big
department stores in Oxford Street, esp. John Lewis who tend to carry a =
lot
of useful stuff for travellers.

>My 110V modem is also not useful, can't feed it 240V. Apex
>33.6 card is doing famously well!

Time you lot got in line with the rest of the world :)

>Compuserve number behaves well here (Thanks, Tony! I succeeded
>the first time, and my friend did too.)

Indeed, a truly international outfit.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:14:34 +0000
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Tomas,

You could use XtreeGold if you have it or can find it.  It solves
alot of problems I see on this list, and XtreeGold 3.0 is the DOS
program that I use most.  Since you're using a Win95 machine, you can
use the free ZTreeWin, "http://www.ztree.com/", to do the trick.
Press 't' to tag the files that you want to change extensions on,
press ctrl-r to rename, and type '*.txt' to rename all to .txt files.
That's it.

--Ted

On 28 Jun 99 7:19, Tomas Moberg wrote:
From: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>

> The tip about "Rename" does not work for me.
>
> Ren *.* *.txt does not work if the file is on a window$95 machine
> and the files are in the format: a.abc.b.g.dffdf.123.34
>
> Any more ideas?
>
> > A bit off topic but here goes:
> >
> > How do I convert a directory containing a bunch of different filetypes to
> > lets say .TXT. (they are always different)
> > It is ok to just add a extension like:
> > hoho.hej  ->  hoho.hej.txt
> >
> > I would like to make a batch file that adds .TXT to all the files in
> > the directory
> >
> > any ideas.
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:30:50 +0100
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              John Waller <Hp100Lx@JWALLER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Hi

About 3 weeks ago, I asked...


>> Can anybody tell me how to programmatically retrieve a file
>> from an LX?

and On 2 Jun 1999 16:53:21 -0700, rwhitby@hplx.net (Rod Whitby) wrote:
>
>......Otherwise, you can leave the palmtop in FILER connected with the
serial
>cable, and then use the code from the program on SUPER which allows you
>to access the filer from Unix (the code is written in C, and is very
>modular).

I have been looking at the source for LXTools which is written in C for Unix
and I have attempted to port this VisualBasic but I haven't been able to
have a meaningful conversation with my 100LX.

First of all I have been trying to request that my HP goes into server mode
by sending (Hex)
 16 16 16 10 02 01 40 00 01 02 10 03 10 BF
which I think is the correct request. My palmtop is replying with
 16 16 16 10 02 01 40 81 02 10 03 FD AF
which from my reading of the code appears to be an invalid message. The
palmtop does, however, go into server mode.

What I really would like is a full description of the proitocol. Does anyone
have a full description of this protocol? Can anyone suggest what is going
wrong?

Thanks

John

PS My 100LX works fine with other comms software (eg TFWin200) so it is my
code that is wrong.

PPS I have also thought about writing this is in C rather than VB but I think
that my C is a bit too rusty to port LXTools to Dos/Windows. Super does
contain a port of LXTools to Dos but unfortunately it isn't supplied with
the source code so I can't easily run it in a debugging environment to see
what is really being communicated.


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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:20:25 -0700
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              Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HV - once again...
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Please have a look at the size of the latest NetScape or IE. Divide it
> by 5 for bloat and then compare the result with the size of HV. This is
> about how much it would have to "slightly" grow to support all that
> nonsense bells and whistles required to do "simple Web browsing" (e.g.
> many pages implement links withJavascript that could be done with a simple
> HTML linkt; it adds zero functionality, but requires that the
> browser has a Javascript interpreter built-in). The problem is not that
> the browser does not support any direly needed functionality. The main
> problem is the realy, really bad design of many Web pages out there.

"My Geo Metro is small and efficient.  The only reason its wheels fall off
is because of those awful roads that somebody made."  The fact of the
matter, in my oh-so-humble opinion, is that the Web has grown more
complicated, and the browsing software has grown (albeit largely out of
proportion) with it.  I use Opera 3.6, the latest version, and fully decked
out, it takes 2.5M of space.  This is a *Windows* program.  I should think
that similar functionality could be had on the palmtop in less space,
perhaps 2M.  It's a pretty big chunk out of most palmtop RAM drives, but
would be well worth it to see all that nonsense "functionality" added, like
javascript and those awful "frames", and perhaps even multiple windows.
What bugs me about HV is that it has really lousy support for some things
that are considered basic functionality (and have been for quite a while).
Inline images, better cache design, frames, javascript, multiple windows,
secure HTTP, and large forms are *all* considered essential on today's web,
and HV only sort-of supports one (inline images).  Handling frames like the
text browser Lynx doesn't count.

> > Every other piece of software I own costs a lot, so why not consider
> > Ian's suggestion, and take it back to the programming board.
>
> Yes! Let Mr Butler do it! He is so amazingly intelligent and knows
> everything about other people's products better than they do
> themselves. He must be such a genious that I am sure he will rewrite HV
> in a day or two.

You're so kind.  However, I never even hinted at being a good programmer
myself.  I'm a good designer.  I'd be glad to help you redesign HV, but
there's no reason to get your undies in a bunch and be a meaniehead about
it.   HV is poorly written, you've said that yourself.  Don't forget that.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:30:21 -0700
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Ian Butler wrote:

> proportion) with it.  I use Opera 3.6, the latest version, and fully decked
> out, it takes 2.5M of space.  This is a *Windows* program.  I should think
> that similar functionality could be had on the palmtop in less space,
> perhaps 2M.

And did I mention that Opera only costs $35?  <:-|

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:32:40 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:20:25 -0700, Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> there's no reason to get your undies in a bunch and be a meaniehead =
about

Meaniehead <g>.... this has is the most civilized mailing list fight I =
have
ever seen <g>.

Jeff

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           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:30:21 -0700, Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> And did I mention that Opera only costs $35?  <:-|


                           Score

              Andreas                   Ian
              +-----+                 +-----+
              |     |                 |     |
              |  3  |                 |  3  |
              |     |                 |     |
              +-----+                 +-----+

   The ball is now Andreas' court.... with 5:00 left on the game clock!

Okay..... sorry for the bandwidth... I'll stop now. I just couldn't =
resist
<g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:59:47 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Ian Butler wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Ian Butler wrote:
>
> And did I mention that Opera only costs $35?  <:-|

...and you can get it from www.operasoftware.com


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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:03:26 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing, elitism etc.

> Hmmm - seems like the cart is before the horse here...  Aggressive
> marketing created the "demand" for Windoze.  We didn't exactly have
> peasants storming King Bill's castle with torches and pitchforks
> screaming "we demand windoze".
>
> Later
>
>
> -Peniel

Actually, there was a demand for a graphical user interface before
windows, and that is why windows exists today. It even started long
before the mac, or its predecessor the lisa. Joe User, not we the
elite :-), has wanted a simple way to use a computer since they first
existed and a GUI is the simpliest system anyone has come up with to
date. I am NOT saying that Windows, in any incarnation, is the best
oreven close to it. The GUI exists as a response to market demand,
Windows as an implementation of a GUI is one companies response to
this demand and it is popular because of (overly)aggressive marketing.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:59:13 -0500
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              Rudy Moore <orn@UPL.CS.WISC.EDU>
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Does anyone have information about programming the 200LX IR interface?

I'm interested in hacking the signal to a few IR toys.  So far, I've
gotten RC.EXE to work fairly well - but I'd like to get a little more
indepth into the signal and I'd like to be able to work on toys that
aren't modulating on a 40KHz waveform.

BTW, I tried contacting Diomidis Spinellis at
dpsin@leon.nrcps- ariadne-t.gr - but the e-mail seems to be old.  (Not
surprising since it's been awhile since he programmed it..)

Thanks for your help!
Rudy

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:13:26 EST
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ 200lx discontinued soon - and Microsoft

> Jorgen;
>
> By "pressure from Micro$oft" I mean that they have to follow MS's lead
> or be left behind.  The ethical question is: "How did MS get into the
> lead?"  Anyone who has been in the computer industry long enough knows
> that MS got DOS from Digital Research - for a song, and, presumably,
> under false pretenses.
>

Afraid you have your facts a little mixed up. MS bought a little
company that had written a disk operating system that mimiced CP/M,
that is what became MS-DOS version 1.0. DR didn't write DOS and in
fact didn't have a version of CP/M for the 8086 yet if I remember
right. DR did drop the ball big time in not agreeing to write
something for IBM, that was the beginning of the end of DR.

> Later, they licensed it to OEMs, contracting to be paid a royalty for
> *each and every system sold*, whether it had MS-DOS or not!  (In my mind
> that is definitely unethical.) In this way, they have the
> "bread-and-butter" money to fund additional projects like Windows, MS
> Office, etc. and to buy up competitors and others companies making
> favorable technologies.  After complaints to the FTC from OEMs, they
> discontinued that practice, but it was too late, they already had a
> financial advantage and still do.  And, because of that stable financial
> foundation, are able to take great risks and bully their remaining
> competitors, OEMs, etc. into complying with their wishes. ie: "pressure
> from Micro$oft"
>

That part is correct, but of course MS will argue that they didn't
REQUIRE a royalty on any machine without MS-DOS. Their point is that
EVERY machine sold with MS-DOS, which is probably true. Even today it
is almost impossible to by a major manufactuers machine with an OS
except some MS product.

> They got market share by *buying* market share, not by honestly
> competing in the marketplace and having the superior product.  And
> that's what bothers me: their money made the powerful.  Being rich is
> fine, but honesty and integrity, and helping people, come before wealth.
>
> Unfortunately, a company with scruples can't compete in today's market;
> case in point: WordPerfect Corp.
>
> Just my .02 worth.
> Richard

Sadly, it is often NOT the superior product that wins in marketing,
it is the product with the best sales force behind it. You can look
at virtually ANY area and find cases where an inferior product with
better marketing beat out a superior product. I think it basically
comes down to the fact that people are sheep and buy whatever they
are told to buy. 8-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

> Actually, I Microhack is developing a way to lease software online.  The
> software wont even be running on your desktop, but on a remote server.  The
> line between desktop & internet will become blurred.  Of course we will all
> have 24/7 connections at LAN speeds.  This will kill piracy and create regular
> cash flow for MS.  Not a joke.
>
> Don.
>

That is just the old server / dumb terminal setup that we moved AWAY
from 5-10 years ago. Personally I don't see that happening anytime
soon since that concept is predicated on the idea that full fledged
computers are expensive and the WinTerm is cheap but the reality is
that the WinTerm costs as much as a low end comptuter and can't do as
much. The extreme drop in computer prices is really killing alot of
those sort of ideas. 2 years ago everyone was talking about thin
clients and winterms and set top boxes but today lots of money was
been pulled from those sort of development ideas. Also, look at how
much of an issue one big internet system being down causes, like ebay
recently. Now multiply that by 100 when all the people on ther
winterms can't do anything because some system in another state
crashed. I sure wouldn't want to be the company involved, they would
probably get sued into oblivion.

Pete

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> ********* BEGIN SURVEY **********
>
> 1) Do you use HV to view HTML files on your LX?
>
> YESÝx¨    NOÝ ¨
>
> 2) Do you use HV in conjunction with WWW/LX to "browse the web"?
>
> YESÝx¨    NOÝ ¨
>
> 3) If YES to either of the above, how often?
>
> Less than once a weekÝ ¨
>
> More than once a week, less than once a dayÝ ¨
>
> More than once a day Ýx¨
>
> 4) Would you like to see more full featured palmtop HTML viewer?
> (for the sake of argument, assume FRAME support, TABLE support,
> HTTPS)
>
> YESÝx¨    NOÝ ¨
>
> 5) If it were a commercial product, how much would it be worth to you?
>
> < $20Ýx¨   $20-$40Ý ¨   > $40Ý ¨
>
> 6) Would you use this product if it required EMS? (Say 1MB +/-)
>
> YESÝ ¨    NOÝx¨
>

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.

> There wasn't a market for this stuff to begin with.  THEY (HP, Microsoft)
> created the market.  They created the demand.  How many software titles were
> written and sold for Windows versions 1 and 2, which hardly rose to the
> "proof of concept" level?  If people had been clamoring for Macintosh
> interfaces, then I suppose that Apple would never have run into trouble, and
> this would be either the Newton or the Palm discussion group.  Whoever asked
> for an 80Mb operating system, or one that would take up the better part of a
> 1 Gb hard drive?  Where was the demand for a DOS palmtop circa 1990, except
> among techies and sci fi fans.?

People were clamoring for a SIMPLER interface since long BEFORE the
apple MAC or even the LISA. The reason the MAC fell behind and the PC
took off was licensing, not the user interface. If apple had made the
MAC an open system and encouraged clones then we would probably all
be using MACs today and the PC would have been a footnote. Even with
IBM behind it the PC would not be anywhere today if it wasn't for
clones and the proliferation of systems and the competition that
developed. Also, the average user doesn't car if the OS takes 1M or
100M, most of them couldn't even tell you HOW much space it took up.
All they care about is ease of use and stability. I am not claiming
that MS is good at either, I am just talking about a graphical user
interface in general. As an example of the the desire for a simpler
interface, how many of the DOS based programs that you use DON'T have
pull down menus, or shortcut keys, or even a semigrpahical interface?
If people were actually HAPPY with a command line based system then
UNIX would probably rule the day, virtually everything in UNIX is
command line driven. Even UNIX succomed to the need for a SIMPLER
interface and Xwindows was invented.

>
> Of course there appears to be no *future* for the HP palmtop.  When there is
> little in the way of commercial development of DOS software, and the market
> is limited to those people who had the foresight to hang onto their existing
> DOS software rather than follow the trend by chucking it altogether, it
> becomes an increasingly tough sell.  But that doesn't mean that, so long as
> desktop machines can still run DOS, there isn't "a market" that could be
> developed.  Even now, if a DOS palmtop were bundled with a CD-ROM package
> such as Thaddeus' excellent, unequaled, and unparalleled CD Infobase, it
> would offer more than the other handhelds. My point is, as with politics and
> the stock market these days, the public doesn't call the shots.  It's the
> "marketmakers" who rule.  We're just spectators and pawns.
>
> -roger-

If your idea that the market is invented to fit the product was true
why would we have a GUI at all? Surely the marketers could sell the
public on ANY system in your version, why make something new when
they could continue to sell you the old one over and over again.
While it is true that an inferior product can be marketed to the
public and become popular (see any MS product for proof) that does
not mean that the publics demands are meaningless. The product has to
meet the basic demands of the public before it can be sold to them.
So if we have 3 or 4 different but basically similar OS's with GUI's
(say OS2, Winxx, Unix/Xwin) THEN the marketing comes into play to
sell the public on one over the others, even if that one is NOT the
best one. Do you really think that in a market full of GUI based OS's
a marketing firm, no matter how good, could sell people on buying a
DOS based system with no pretty graphics and no mouse and no cute
icons?

Pete

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Hi Avi,

> Hope you travel standing only! :) That backpocket thing for
> palmtops is deadly! One should carry WinCE devices there... :)

Hey, that's a nice idea! (But be honest: You don't really have hopes
that the
people whose CE-toys broke, change to the DOS-LXs, or do you?
I bet 80 % of these will buy a new game boy, and that would _not_ lead
us to our goal regarding HP's continuing the 200LX's manufacturing!
(Oh, what a sentence - was it correct?)) ;-)

> Admittedly I carried my HP OB800CT to London with me. I have
> to admit that there are two main reasons:

In another mail you said that you carry 3 palmtops with you to London.
So you carry (at least ;-) ) 4 computers and one digital camera with
you.

Have you ever had problems with the airport staff (customs - don't know
if this is the right word for the German 'Zoll'...)?
I know of a friend of mine who had problems even with a little radio
that was in its packaging!
She was in USA for 9 months, her father sent her this radio a few months
before she came back to Germany, and she carried the radio back to
Germany in its original packaging inside her suitcase.
Although only a little part of the description on the packaging was in
English, the customs staff (?) was not able to understand that this
device was _not_ bought in the USA...

I just try to imagine what happened if _you_ met this customs guy! ;-)

GTX
daniel

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********* BEGIN SURVEY **********

1) Do you use HV to view HTML files on your LX?

     YESÝX¨    NOÝ ¨

2) Do you use HV in conjunction with WWW/LX to "browse the web"?

     YESÝX¨    NOÝ ¨

3) If YES to either of the above, how often?

   Less than once a weekÝ ¨

   More than once a week, less than once a dayÝ ¨

   More than once a day ÝX¨


4) Would you like to see more full featured palmtop HTML viewer?
  (for the sake of argument, assume FRAME support, TABLE support, HTTPS)

   YESÝX¨    NOÝ ¨


5) If it were a commercial product, how much would it be worth to you?

     < $20Ý ¨   $20-$40ÝX¨   > $40Ý ¨


6) Would you use this product if it required EMS? (Say 1MB +/-)

     YESÝX¨    NOÝ ¨


7) Please add any comments:


HV is a great product, but its time for an ungrade

8) THANKS for Responding!




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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:10:29 -0400
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> Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
> purpose.

Oops a daisy O thought you'd dovert replies to your message - I replied
to the list. Where do I reply to?

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My reply was diverted earlier... maybe something's full now (or broke).

- Longden





Tony Hutchins <th@CSI.COM> on 06/28/99 02:10:29 PM

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> Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
> purpose.

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 90 GB Storage Device...

> BTW-- I ran across this URL at Slashdot, and the general consensus there
> is that it is a hoax. Oh well.
>
> Steve
>

I would think so since they seem to imply that the technology came
from "somewhere" else. Someone watched terminator 2 one too many
times.

Pete

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Tony Hutchins <th@CSI.COM> wrote:

> Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
> purpose.

Oops a daisy O thought you'd dovert replies to your message - I replied
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Does this include all the DLLs in the windows/system directory?  Or does it not
call any system DLLs?  I think your comparing apples to oranges when it comes
to Windows programing and the palmtop.

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
I use Opera 3.6, the latest version, and fully decked
out, it takes 2.5M of space.  This is a *Windows* program.  I should think
that similar functionality could be had on the palmtop in less space,
perhaps 2M.

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Ultimate Upgraded HP DOS Palmtop

> Rather than try to convince HP to produce a new DOS box, I would think
> that they would be more receptive to the idea of putting 200LX
> capabilities on a snap in ROM card that could be installed by the
> consumer in the newer LX models. This way, instead of "upgrading" from
> CE 2.0 to 3.0 for example, the consumer could upgrade to a 200LX.
> (simply a 'brain transplant' for the newer LX models.)
>
> This seems like an economically feasible way that HP could discontinue
> having to build the 200lx box, yet in a very real sense still keep it
> alive and not abandon the 200LX user base.
>
> Steve

the problem with that idea is that the underlying hardwre in a wince
machine is too different from a dos machine. Too many dos programs
make assumptions about io port and memory locations which wouldn't
work on a wince machine. There is alot more to running dos than just
have something that looks like a command line. Just the fact that no
wince machine has an intel instruction set compatible processor means
that all of your programs would have to be interpretted on the fly
into the native processor's instruction set.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Ultimate Upgraded HP DOS Palmtop

>
> Unless of course your talking about creating a full HP compatible machine in
> a
> Type II pcmcia card form factor.  Hmm. a rexx sized hplx.  that could be
> interesting
> <grin>
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com

Actually that could be doable. If I am not mistaken there was a
pcmcia form factor pc in Japan once. Since we wouldn't need a screen
or keyboard the system could get real small. maybe make an intel cpu
and some support hardware then make a software program to run as the
screen and keyboard on the host machine, any wince machine or even
win9x/NT. Something simple could probably significantly speed up dos
emulation since there would be no need for instruction set emulation,
just pass it off to the pcmcia cards processor.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

I still prefer the server/terminal architecture.  In fact, our law office
runs that setup and will continue to do so as long as we can still get
terminals despite the suspicion that we could pay less for PCs than we're
paying for terminals.

The reason we do so is the same reason most here hate Windows -
reliability.  I've got 25 user stations that need to be up 12 hours a
day.  My server (Alpha 400 running OpenVMS) has been up non-stop for 437
days.  The last full-system reboot was to upgrade a harddrive.  The two
lonely PCs in our office get a necessary reboot every week.

If I had to keep 25 PCs running, I'd need to devote myself full-time to
the task and take on an assistant.  With the server/terminal model, I
spend 20 minutes a day running some automated system tasks and farm the
rest out to an off-site support company.

Sometimes, not doing as much as a PC is a benefit.  I feel the same way
about the HP200lx.  It is tried-and-true technology that won't get
written up in any slick-papered trade but it will always be there
performing its tasks near perfectly while the CE goofs are choosing fonts
to spruce up a Wordlite document that won't transfer correctly to their
desk machine.

Larry Zimmerman

On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:19:54 EST "Peter W. Borders"
<TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US> writes:
>That is just the old server / dumb terminal setup that we moved AWAY
>from 5-10 years ago. Personally I don't see that happening anytime
>soon since that concept is predicated on the idea that full fledged
>computers are expensive and the WinTerm is cheap but the reality is
>that the WinTerm costs as much as a low end comptuter and can't do as
>much. The extreme drop in computer prices is really killing alot of
>those sort of ideas. 2 years ago everyone was talking about thin
>clients and winterms and set top boxes but today lots of money was
>been pulled from those sort of development ideas. Also, look at how
>much of an issue one big internet system being down causes, like ebay
>recently. Now multiply that by 100 when all the people on ther
>winterms can't do anything because some system in another state
>crashed. I sure wouldn't want to be the company involved, they would
>probably get sued into oblivion.
>
>Pete
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
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Have you ever seen desktop icons on Win9x that link content subscriptions to
the internet?  Applications that upgrade automatically via the internet?  Free
email such as HotMail?  The next step would be HotWord or HotExcel.

Don.



 -----Original Message-----
That is just the old server / dumb terminal setup that we moved AWAY
from 5-10 years ago. Personally I don't see that happening anytime
soon since that concept is predicated on the idea that full fledged
computers are expensive and the WinTerm is cheap but the reality is
that the WinTerm costs as much as a low end comptuter and can't do as
much.

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

> Have you ever seen desktop icons on Win9x that link content subscriptions to
> the internet?  Applications that upgrade automatically via the internet?  Free
> email such as HotMail?  The next step would be HotWord or HotExcel.
>
> Don.
>

There is a big difference between upgrading a program that runs on
your comptuer via the internet and RUNING the program from the
internet. Do you connect to the internet before you run ANY program
on your computer? Would you want to DEPEND on your internet
connection being up when you needed to run a program. Not only your
internet connection but the machine on the internet that stores the
program and the machine on the internet that stores YOUR data. Do you
go everywhere by bus or do you prefer the freedom of your own car, it
is about the same thing.

Pete

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I've noticed, when charging my 200LX battery, that the voltage of the
backup battery also seems to increase during the charging period.
I see this in the PowerMon display.

Am I dreaming, or does the backup battery really get boosted during
charging?

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:55:29 -0700
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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> Does this include all the DLLs in the windows/system directory?  Or does it not
> call any system DLLs?  I think your comparing apples to oranges when it comes
> to Windows programing and the palmtop.
>
> Don.

The point was that Opera crams a lot of functionality into an incredibly
small space, and HV would do well to do the same.  Also, when measuring
space consumed, the program and all its associated custom DLLs, directories,
help files, a rather extensive hotlist, etc., are included, but not the
operating system.  If we included the OS in size measurements, it really
would be apples to oranges, because Win95 is huge. :)

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:58:21 EST
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

> I still prefer the server/terminal architecture.  In fact, our law office
> runs that setup and will continue to do so as long as we can still get
> terminals despite the suspicion that we could pay less for PCs than we're
> paying for terminals.
>
> The reason we do so is the same reason most here hate Windows -
> reliability.  I've got 25 user stations that need to be up 12 hours a
> day.  My server (Alpha 400 running OpenVMS) has been up non-stop for 437
> days.  The last full-system reboot was to upgrade a harddrive.  The two
> lonely PCs in our office get a necessary reboot every week.
>
> If I had to keep 25 PCs running, I'd need to devote myself full-time to
> the task and take on an assistant.  With the server/terminal model, I
> spend 20 minutes a day running some automated system tasks and farm the
> rest out to an off-site support company.
>
> Sometimes, not doing as much as a PC is a benefit.  I feel the same way
> about the HP200lx.  It is tried-and-true technology that won't get
> written up in any slick-papered trade but it will always be there
> performing its tasks near perfectly while the CE goofs are choosing fonts
> to spruce up a Wordlite document that won't transfer correctly to their
> desk machine.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>

Glad to hear that you system works for you but I wouldn't really want
that sort of setup. Granted it takes less work to keep one machine
running and a terminal is about as simple as things get but what
happens when that one machine fails. I have over 200 pc's running
windows, luckily I don't need 100%, 95% works ok here. I also have
file and print servers but I do not have one of anything. At your
scale you could probably afford to have a whole extra server system
set up ready to go but even then you are gambling on the old all
your eggs in one basket scenario. In the case of 25 pc's if one goes
done one person is put out, in the case of 25 terminals and 1 server
1 server goes done and 25 people are put out. Now extend that idea to
all the home users and put the servers in another state over an
internet connection, can someone say recipe for disaster. :-)


Also, how many days a system runs is not really important unless you
need 24/7 availability. If EVERY pc had to be rebooted EVERY night it
would make no difference in your case, no one is using them at night.
I am not saying that winxx anything is great, this isn;t an OS issue
it is a hardware/software availability issue. If even once a year
your server goes down that means 25 people can't work, what are the
odds that ALL 25 pc's would go down AT THE SAME TIME?

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:04:40 -0400
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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:48:25 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Gang -

Pete asked whether a command-line machine could still be sold in a GUI
dominated market, even with aggressive marketing.  Well considering how
long the 100/200LX palmtops have survived with NO marketing, I think
the answer is yes...  Not with the mass market, but creative
salesmanship could almost certainly expand the already existing niche
market.

In a totally different area, BIC stick pens certainly outsell Mont
Blanc fountain pens.  But the point is - they're not competing for the
same user group.  If "primitive" writing implements can be sold for
humongous prices, I think a "primitive" palmtop also could be.  Of
course, sadly, this isn't gonna happen, because nobody is gonna spend
the $$ on the marketing campaign.

My $.02 worth   8-)


-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:14:49 +0200
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A Meshar wrote:

> > > It is probably punishment because you use such a long sig block! :-)
> > >
> > >   Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
> >
> > Yes...it is probably because of the sig...but its gone now...  ;-)
> >
> > Martin
>
> So I see! You didn't really believe my theory on punishment,
> did you? :-)
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

No no...my sig.doc file was erased in the "nuke"...put point taken  ;-)


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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:12:28 -0400
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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:09:47 -0400 (EDT)

20m22s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> I've noticed, when charging my 200LX battery, that the voltage of the
> backup battery also seems to increase during the charging period.
>
> Am I dreaming, or does the backup battery really get boosted during
> charging?

Not dreaming.  But I don't think the backup battery is getting a boost.
Probably it's just putting out more voltage because of the heating
during charging.


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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:11:52 +0000
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What I saw in the press today:

Nokia will release a PCMCIA mobile phone with download speed up
to 43.2 kbit/s. It will have a build in GSM-Dualband-Phone
usable with an external headset in the GSM-900 and GSM-1800
band. It's a 58 gramm Typ II PCMCIA card.

I fear, the palmtop power supply cannot handle it and using the
card as a phone also requires the card being plugged into the
palmtop to put it under power? And how do you dial out? Most
likely with a tiny 2MB Win98 application urgently needing
another 5 small 1MB DLL's.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:26:48 EST
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> Hi Gang -
>
> Pete asked whether a command-line machine could still be sold in a GUI
> dominated market, even with aggressive marketing.  Well considering how
> long the 100/200LX palmtops have survived with NO marketing, I think
> the answer is yes...  Not with the mass market, but creative
> salesmanship could almost certainly expand the already existing niche
> market.

I imagine that the 200lx survived as long as it did by word of mouth
but I would be suprised if it made HP much money. It probably just
made enough to justify its continued production until another use
came up for the factory or some other bump in the road dislodged its
precarious position. Also, try to think back to what HP actually
always pointed out about the 200lx, it wasn't the DOS command line.
They emphasized the built in PIM and system manager with its
quasigraphic user interface. Even when it was new I doubt that the
DOS aspect or the command line could have sold it. I don't doubt that
with better marketing HP could have continued the machine, there are
certainly enough people on this list that have found uses for it, but
marketing costs monet and I really doubt that HP would wnat to put
any money into what was probably viewed as an obsolete product. Try
to name any other computer product that is still for sale that was
originally designed over 4 years ago (how long was it?).

>
> In a totally different area, BIC stick pens certainly outsell Mont
> Blanc fountain pens.  But the point is - they're not competing for the
> same user group.  If "primitive" writing implements can be sold for
> humongous prices, I think a "primitive" palmtop also could be.  Of
> course, sadly, this isn't gonna happen, because nobody is gonna spend
> the $$ on the marketing campaign.
>
> My $.02 worth   8-)
>
>
> -Peniel

That arguement doesn't work at all since a BIC pen and a Mont Blanc
pen WORK exactly the same. Any old BIC user can pick up a Mont Blanc
and write something, the same can't be said of a windows user and a
DOS machine line the LX. Comparing the LX to current offerings i more
like comparing a quill pen to the BIC, a current BIC user would have
a heck of a time figuring out how to use a quill pen.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:38:50 -0500
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Don't you "always trust Microsoft Software"?  Just check your registry for the
answer (under Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\InternetSettings,Trust Warning
Level="High").

Don.


 -----Original Message-----
In the case of 25 pc's if one goes
done one person is put out, in the case of 25 terminals and 1 server
1 server goes done and 25 people are put out. Now extend that idea to
all the home users and put the servers in another state over an
internet connection, can someone say recipe for disaster. :-)

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:25:09 -0500
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I never said this is my plan or wish.  I am saying this is Microsoft's plan.
The examples I gave are ways MS is blurring the line between desktop &
internet.  If MS can get the user to not know (or care) where their files
reside, they are one step closer to software leasing over the internet.  I
believe the MS marketing dept. will have no problem selling the advantages of
this concept.  i.e. no excuses for tech support, its all running on MS's
system.

Palmtops are heading this way.  The curent WinCE appliances are useless w/o a
desktop.

Don.


 -----Original Message-----
There is a big difference between upgrading a program that runs on
your comptuer via the internet and RUNING the program from the
internet. Do you connect to the internet before you run ANY program
on your computer? Would you want to DEPEND on your internet
connection being up when you needed to run a program. Not only your
internet connection but the machine on the internet that stores the
program and the machine on the internet that stores YOUR data. Do you
go everywhere by bus or do you prefer the freedom of your own car, it
is about the same thing.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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> Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:59:40 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>      There has been some discussion of late as to whether or not there
> is merit in rewriting HV to accommodate more functionality. The purpose
> of this survey is to determine if this is a worthwhile project or not.
>
>      Unfortunately, HV in its current state is about "maxed out" in terms
> of additional functionality. In order to add more features, a major
> rewrite will probably be required. In addition, the new program will
> probably have to make use of some EMS to add enhanced features...which
> would probably preclude running the program on machines with limited
> memory.
>
>      It should also be noted, at this time, there are no plans to
> rewrite HV. Hopefully this survey will generate interest in doing so!
>
>      Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
> purpose. I will strip the return address & signatures (so comments will
> remain anonymous), collate the results & post to the HPLX-L LIST
> in a week or so...Thanks!
>
> ********* BEGIN SURVEY **********
>
> 1) Do you use HV to view HTML files on your LX?
>
>      YESÝ ¨    NOÝx¨
>
> 2) Do you use HV in conjunction with WWW/LX to "browse the web"?
>
>      YESÝ ¨    NOÝx¨
>
> 3) If YES to either of the above, how often?
>
>      Less than once a weekÝ ¨
>
>           More than once a week, less than once a dayÝ ¨
>
>                More than once a day Ý ¨
>
> 4) Would you like to see more full featured palmtop HTML viewer?
>      (for the sake of argument, assume FRAME support, TABLE support,
>      HTTPS)
>
>      YESÝ ¨    NOÝx¨
>
> 5) If it were a commercial product, how much would it be worth to you?
>
>      < $20Ýx¨   $20-$40Ý ¨   > $40Ý ¨
>
> 6) Would you use this product if it required EMS? (Say 1MB +/-)
>
>      YESÝ ¨    NOÝx¨
>
> 7) Please add any comments:
     How about a text only version of DOS Lynx that can run with
     WWW/LX.  Forget graphics.
>
> 8) THANKS for Responding!
>
> ...AJKind
>
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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Alberto Johann Sebastian Kind wrote:

>      Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
> purpose. I will strip the return address & signatures (so comments
> will remain anonymous), collate the results & post to the HPLX-L LIST
> in a week or so...Thanks!

It seems to me that many of the replies are going to the list.  Unless I
misunderstand: people, please, check the headers when you're about to send
your message.  Send it only to Al, not to the list.  Especially if you
fill in your comments field with disparaging remarks.  <g>

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:38:12 -0400
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Subject:      Another possible HP200LX replacement on the horizon?

Hi All,

I just read an interesting article by CNet at:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C38401%2C00.html?dd.ne.txt.0628.21

Psion has announced that their next machine will support Java. According
to them, their Epoc operating system runs Java 5 times faster than
Windows CE. That gave me the following thought:  Could an enterprising
Java programmer eventually write a DOS emulator in Java? If that were to
happen, it sounds like the Psion would be the machine to run it on. :-)

It seems to me that a fast optional DOS emulator that could be run on one
of today's up and coming machines, would be the path of least resistance
in our quest for the functionality of an improved HP200LX. IMHO, it's
rather doubtful that a new DOS machine will ever be produced by anyone.

Who knows... If Java's acceptance grows, maybe the author of CE XT would
become interested in writing a similar emulator in Java? :-) Just think
of the possibilities!

Please check out the article and voice your impressions.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:54:03 EST
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Subject:      Re: Another possible HP200LX replacement on the horizon?

> Hi All,
>
> I just read an interesting article by CNet at:
> http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C38401%2C00.html?dd.ne.txt.0628.21
>
> Psion has announced that their next machine will support Java. According
> to them, their Epoc operating system runs Java 5 times faster than
> Windows CE. That gave me the following thought:  Could an enterprising
> Java programmer eventually write a DOS emulator in Java? If that were to
> happen, it sounds like the Psion would be the machine to run it on. :-)
>
> It seems to me that a fast optional DOS emulator that could be run on one
> of today's up and coming machines, would be the path of least resistance
> in our quest for the functionality of an improved HP200LX. IMHO, it's
> rather doubtful that a new DOS machine will ever be produced by anyone.
>
> Who knows... If Java's acceptance grows, maybe the author of CE XT would
> become interested in writing a similar emulator in Java? :-) Just think
> of the possibilities!
>
> Please check out the article and voice your impressions.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>

First off, you really don't want to write an emulator in an
interpreted language like java, it would be slow as molasses. Also,
there is already a DOS emulator for EPOC but I don't know how far
along it is, I just remember seeing posts about it. Second, saying
that the psion runs java 5 times faster than wince is not saying much
since the implementation of java on wince is not very good from what
I have heard.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:54:55 EST
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

> Don't you "always trust Microsoft Software"?  Just check your registry for the
> answer (under Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\InternetSettings,Trust Warning
> Level="High").
>
> Don.
>

Ah, but that key is only there is you run IE, which I don't. :-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon, how to carry on? Long

> I never said this is my plan or wish.  I am saying this is Microsoft's plan.
> The examples I gave are ways MS is blurring the line between desktop &
> internet.  If MS can get the user to not know (or care) where their files
> reside, they are one step closer to software leasing over the internet.  I
> believe the MS marketing dept. will have no problem selling the advantages of
> this concept.  i.e. no excuses for tech support, its all running on MS's
> system.
>

This is an idea that is already past it prime and I doubt that it
ever will amount to much. I don't doubt that M$ would love it, just
that people would put up with it. This idea is also dependent on a
fast, stable and always on internet connection which is still 2-3
years away for the majority of people. Running a full screen GUI over
a dial up connection isn't going to cut it, I know. :-)

> Palmtops are heading this way.  The curent WinCE appliances are useless w/o a
> desktop.
>
> Don.
>

I never have understood why people pesist in saying this. Yes they
are aimed at close use with the desktop since that way people can
more easily associate them with there normal usage patterns. That
does not menat that they CANNOT be used as a stand alone computer.
The only time I plug my velo into the desktop is to install something
that doesn't have an installable cab file (which can be downloaded
and installed WITHOUT a desktop). How do you get programs into your
200lx? I have a 486dx2-50 that doesn't have a floppy and I connect it
to my desktop to trasfer files in and out, does that make it "useless
without a desktop" ?

Pete

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In a message dated 6/28/99 5:45:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM writes:

> Psion has announced that their next machine will support Java. According
>  to them, their Epoc operating system runs Java 5 times faster than
>  Windows CE. That gave me the following thought:  Could an enterprising
>  Java programmer eventually write a DOS emulator in Java? If that were to
>  happen, it sounds like the Psion would be the machine to run it on. :-)

Speaking of Psion and an earlier message about Opera.
<A HREF="http://www.operasoftware.com/alt_os.html#be">Opera Software - The
Browser Made For You - A...
</A> This is a link about the new Psion version of Opera. I am pretty sure it
won't be as large as the Windows version.

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In a message dated 6/28/99 4:26:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us writes:

> Try
>  to name any other computer product that is still for sale that was
>  originally designed over 4 years ago (how long was it?).

The Amiga.

glenn

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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:06:46 -0500 (EST)

04h56m17s ago ...
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> > Replies to this survey will go to a mailbox I setup for just this
> > purpose.
>
> Oops a daisy O thought you'd dovert replies to your message - I replied
> to the list. Where do I reply to?

     I had temporarily set the HPLX-L to reply to SENDER, then sent my
message. then set it back to BOTH. The majority have been coming thru
to my mailbox only, but obviously there have been some problems
(sorry...don't know why). Not sure what will happen with those
subscribed to DIGEST either.

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK ADDRESS BEFORE SENDING...SHOULD BE:

     mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu

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17h14m40s ago ...
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Even when it was new I doubt that the
> DOS aspect or the command line could have sold it.

Well - I'm definitely an eccentric market of one 8-) -  but that was
the main reason for my 1st 100LX purchase.  Also, at the time, it was
a selling point prominently displayed on the box.

> I don't doubt that
> with better marketing HP could have continued the machine,

That was my point.

>> BIC/Mont Blanc marketing stuff snipped. <<

> That arguement doesn't work at all since a BIC pen and a Mont Blanc
> pen WORK exactly the same.

Pete, good buddy, you coulda had a great career in politics.  That was
the smoothest change of subject I've seen outside of DC  <g>

Seriously, the point was about successful marketing to different
groups, not whether BIC users could write with overpriced fountain
pens.  As an aside, at least one catalog is selling other high-end
fountain pens, and promoting the fact that they DON'T refill fith
cartridges - pump fill only.  "Old Technology" CAN be sold.  Just a
matter of selecting the best target group.

Regards


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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> Who knows... If Java's acceptance grows, maybe the author of CE XT
> would become interested in writing a similar emulator in Java? :-)
> Just think of the possibilities!

Well, what XT-CE does is emulate a 186 machine, and all of the support
hardware.  It doesn't actually emulate DOS.  You run XT-CE and supply your
own copy of DOS which it then runs.  Just a little technicality there.
<g> Now, for my point.  The current implementation of XT-CE (written in C)
runs DOS slower than the double-speed 200LX, even on a 133MHz Jornada 680.
(Does the bigger 800 series Jornada run faster than the 680?  I don't
think so, but I'm not sure.)  According to benchmarks, the J680 runs XT-CE
at about 70% of the speed of a doubled 200LX, and the screen refresh rates
are reportedly much slower.  It leads me to suspect that if a
well-optimized C-compiled version of XT-CE is that slow, an interpreted
Java version of XT-CE would be far too slow to be usable in any way, even
with a fast CPU.  I'd be very pleased if I was wrong, though.  Anybody got
any additional info?

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You cannot compare OPERA on a Pentium with HV on a 80186. You
also cannot compare codesize and functionality of both unless
you come up with the OPERA browser running reasonable on the
palmtop.

We have to distinguish between functionality and usability.
I cannot talk for HV, but let me explain to you what I mean
at the JPEG example of LXPIC.

90% of all JPEG implementations on browsers, DTP or viewers
credit to the "Independant JPEG Group". This group offers free
JPEG source code in C. All a browser manufacturer has to do, is
to compile this code and link it with it's browser and credit
to the group. A work for one person for a few days at most.
This works fine on desktops. But if you do the same on the
palmtop, the display of one JPEG picture takes several minutes
and hence is not usable.

In order to make JPEG usable on the palmtop, it had to be
completely new written in assembler and optimzed for speed and
memory. It looks like reinventing the wheel, but this was the
only way to make JPEG *USABLE* on the palmtop, and it is still
slow compared to GIF, PCX and BMP. But the WWW uses JPEG, and I
cannot tell them to use BMP or PCX instead, only because it is
faster and simpler to program on the palmtop!

Rewriting JPEG for the palmtop was a ~$50.000 job if I count
the time I invested. I did it for me in my spare time. But
please don't think, only because I made it available for free
it cannot be worth a lot!

Similar situations may apply for HV. Opera can use DLL's
already installed on the desktop for free. All this has to be
written new for the palmtop and must be usable, that is, must
run about 10 times faster than on a desktop. Hence you cannot
patch together a browser with free source code and expect to
have a nice palmtop program. It may work, but slooooooow and
memory huuuuuuuuuungy.

To write a usable browser for the palmtop is a huge project
and coming close to what HV already does needs several 100 hours
of work. I have to agree with Avi: as long as nobody apart from
Andreas seriously faces this challenge, you should be less
demanding!

AFAIK, OPERA was written by 20 programmers, NETSCAPE is a
x-billion enterprise, and IE employs a whole skyscraper.

What do you expect from a single person programming in his
spare time?  The best of all indeed ;-)

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David Ness wrote:


<snip>
>This is a well-enough established problem in the computer business to be
>called: `The Second System Phenemenon', and has fairly evidently


Interesting, but a quick web search on a couple of major search engines
turned up nothing regarding this phenomenon.

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> >  to name any other computer product that is still for sale that was
> >  originally designed over 4 years ago (how long was it?).
>
> The Amiga.
>
> glenn

The Amiga is just barely for sale, they haven't been in production
for several years. Gateway bought them and has yet to actually do
anything. I did hear that a new version of the OS was coming out any
day now. :-) Also, the Amiga has been revised several times since its
original inception, the 1200 and 4000 are quite a bit different from
the original 1000.

Pete

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:12:23 -0700
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Hi all.

                 I have been trying to get a copy of the PAL library and
development
                 kit, however the link on SUPER does not work. I have
send the guys
                 a SUPER an email regarding this, but have not received
a response.

                 Does anyone have another link to the library - or can
someone email me a copy?

                 Any emails of the lib should be direct email, of course

                 Russell
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> Well - I'm definitely an eccentric market of one 8-) -  but that was
> the main reason for my 1st 100LX purchase.  Also, at the time, it was
> a selling point prominently displayed on the box.
>
> > I don't doubt that
> > with better marketing HP could have continued the machine,
>
> That was my point.
>
> >> BIC/Mont Blanc marketing stuff snipped. <<
>
> > That arguement doesn't work at all since a BIC pen and a Mont Blanc
> > pen WORK exactly the same.
>
> Pete, good buddy, you coulda had a great career in politics.  That was
> the smoothest change of subject I've seen outside of DC  <g>
>

Thank you, (big bow)

> Seriously, the point was about successful marketing to different
> groups, not whether BIC users could write with overpriced fountain
> pens.  As an aside, at least one catalog is selling other high-end
> fountain pens, and promoting the fact that they DON'T refill fith
> cartridges - pump fill only.  "Old Technology" CAN be sold.  Just a
> matter of selecting the best target group.


Yeah but you have to also market something that the different groups
can use. I don't think the best marketer in the world could sell
quill pens today, and that is about the state of the 200lx. As far as
pump filled fountain pens go, what do you think is the first thing
that gets thrown away on a pump filled pen? Cartridges where an
advancement, I don't see many people using bottled ink these days.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Subject:      Re: HV vs. OPERA

> Rewriting JPEG for the palmtop was a ~$50.000 job if I count
> the time I invested. I did it for me in my spare time. But
> please don't think, only because I made it available for free
> it cannot be worth a lot!

I can't comment on the rest of the discussion but I can't pass this
one up. All I can say is you either make ALOT of money per hour or
you write assembly REALLY slow. Don't want to detract from your jpeg
decoder but $50,000 would mean a whole lot of time even at $100+
hour.

As an aside, anyone that wants to pay me more than $100 an hour to
write assembly please contact me. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:26:52 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.=
DE> wrote:

> Rewriting JPEG for the palmtop was a ~$50.000 job if I count
> the time I invested. I did it for me in my spare time. But
> please don't think, only because I made it available for free
> it cannot be worth a lot!

Well, I can't speak for the dollar or (Euro) value of LXPic, but I would
like to say in a public forum, thank you for writing it and allowing all =
of
us to use it. It also works great on a desktop, at least the once or =
twice a
montth I turn my on <g>.

Jeff

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Subject:      Accessing .adb files -- adbio

Hi all; can anybody tell me if the "adbload" program by
Andreas Garzotto has been ported to the 200LX?  By that,
I mean, is there a version that will generate output that
the 200LX can read?  I'm trying to recover a corrupt
appointment book, and don't want to re-invent the wheel.

Apologies if this is in an FAQ or an archive somewhere.
The server at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml is
currently down.

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In a message dated 6/28/1999 12:21:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Feinmanr@AOL.COM writes:

> Let's recruit Kurt Russell, kill them all and get it over with.

I'm afraid you'd find Kurt to be WarCE.  Better to go with a real S. E. A. L.
  or some such.  (Yes, the old fashioned, but full featured killer.)

Lynn

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In a message dated 6/28/1999 03:32:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ian@HPLX.NET
writes:

> And did I mention that Opera only costs $35?  <:-|
>
Siding with the capitalist, I note that Opera has a somewhat larger target
audience than the number of LX'ers who want to Surf  the big waves on the
electronic equivalent of a boogie board.

5,000 copies x $35 = $175,000 /4,000 hrs. = $44/hr.
20 copies x $80 = $1,600 /2,000 hrs = $.80 per hr., even is DOS is twice as
quick to write.  You'd have to sell 1,000 copies for $80 each (fat chance!)
to make $40 per hr.

If this happens, it will be done by someone who is willing to do it for
nothing.

The numbers are just guess work, but the principle is valid.

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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:23:16 -0400 (EDT)

16h19m44s ago ...
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> > As an aside, at least one catalog is selling other high-end
> > fountain pens, and promoting the fact that they DON'T refill fith
> > cartridges - pump fill only.  "Old Technology" CAN be sold.  Just a
> > matter of selecting the best target group.
>
> Yeah but you have to also market something that the different groups
> can use. I don't think the best marketer in the world could sell
> quill pens today, and that is about the state of the 200lx.

C'mon - do you know of a fair sized group of quill pen users who manage
to be equally productive with folks using modern pens?  Aside from its
impending demise, the 200LX can be MORE productive than the yuppie
toys.  8-)   And, anyway, it's the new stuff that crashes about as
often as quill pens broke...  <g>

> As far as
> pump filled fountain pens go, what do you think is the first thing
> that gets thrown away on a pump filled pen? Cartridges where an
> advancement, I don't see many people using bottled ink these days.

Pete - I'll have to send you that catalog.  The "Old Technology"
pump-fill mechanism was being promoted as "the method preferred by
fountain pen connoisseurs", or some such phrase.  The pens advertised
this way don't take cartridges.  And, BTW, they DO sell bottled ink.
I happen to agree with you about cartridges. But if they can convince
folks to part with a few hundred bucks for inconvenience, they can
probably market anything...

Later...

Regards


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In a message dated 6/28/1999 11:57:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU writes:

> I want to define a SubSet of all data that does not have a value
>  entered in a date field...how?
>
Al,

If you set that field as the primary sort category, as set sort to Ascending,
that will bring all the empty ones to the top.  Not quite what you ask for,
but at least it gets them all together.

Lynn

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In a message dated 6/28/1999 10:10:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us writes:

> All I can say is you either make ALOT of money per hour or
>  you write assembly REALLY slow.

It takes a whole lot longer to write tight code than puffffy M/S style code.
I always feel like an idiot when I am forced to price S/W by the SLOC.  I'd
vastly prefer to pay $100/hr to someone who knows how to do the job than
$10/hr to someone who doesn't.

Lynn

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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:15:26 -0400
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What length are you hoping for, I find the cable sufficient
(for my needs), I don't think there are any longer cables
to get, but you could check the HP site...

Good luck,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 5:11 PM
Subject: FLUFF:OB800CT SCSI Cabling


>The OB800CT seems to have a non-standard SCSI adapter port.  Has anyone
ever
>found a good source for ready-made or custom cables that are longer than,
>say, the cable that came with the HP CD-ROM accessory?  Thanks for any
info.

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Thanks, but I did that.  I'm looking for something in the 4-6 foot range.

-roger-

P.S. There4's no info on the HP site or in the manuals.

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As a measure of how terribly ill-informed your opinions are, please visit
HP's webpage for the 200LX, where they boldly emphasize the fact that over
3000 DOS programs have been found to run on the palmtop.  The inclusion of
Lotus 1-2-3, cc:Mail Mobile, and (eventually) Pocket Quicken in the suite of
applications, were indeed very big selling points used by HP in what little
marketing they did for the 200LX.  They embroidered the machine itself with
icons for these applications, not just a little C> prompt icon.

> I don't doubt that
>  with better marketing HP could have continued the machine, there are
>  certainly enough people on this list that have found uses for it, but
>  marketing costs monet and I really doubt that HP would wnat to put
>  any money into what was probably viewed as an obsolete product. Try
>  to name any other computer product that is still for sale that was
>  originally designed over 4 years ago (how long was it?).

Please, please, read this paragraph again.  Does it really make any sense to
you?  If people continue to find uses for it, how is it viewed as obsolete?

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In a message dated 6/28/99 5:57:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@ftel.net
writes:

> Yes, I agree. But in truth, the masses are much dumber than
>  the group here and color is a nice attractive point.

Avi,  I don't believe that these things are actually "selling,"  except as
scattered impulse buys.  Seybold says that, as of only a month ago, fewer
than 10,000 "Jupiter" handhelds were sold.  Industry-wide.  In my vicinity,
they're offering Samsonite luggage and M$ Expedia Streets to anyone who'll
buy.  IT managers in their right minds are not going to order them because
they know that the operating system will be revised to include both SQL and
further network connectivity hooks. Why not wait and test instead of going
through the hassle of ROM upgrades?  Meantime, I see lots of Palms with mono
LCD screens in corporate settings, lots of Palm connectivity software on
network servers, *very* few WinCEs.

Enjoy your trip.

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n a message dated 6/28/99 4:38:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us writes:

> As an example of the the desire for a simpler
>  interface, how many of the DOS based programs that you use DON'T have
>  pull down menus, or shortcut keys, or even a semigrpahical interface?
>  If people were actually HAPPY with a command line based system then
>  UNIX would probably rule the day, virtually everything in UNIX is
>  command line driven. Even UNIX succomed to the need for a SIMPLER
>  interface and Xwindows was invented.

Other than command-line utilities, most mature DOS sofware products sold from
the late '80s forward had either pull-down or Lotus-like menus.  Your analogy
to UNIX is like comparing apples with oranges.

> If your idea that the market is invented to fit the product was true
>  why would we have a GUI at all?

The Mac GUI was invented because Apple saw what Xerox-PARC was doing
experimentally and thought it was cool.  The Windows GUI was invented because
Billy Boy saw what Apple was doing and thought it was cool.  From the getgo,
however, it was clear that the GUI was going to require more robust hardware
than the standard PCs being sold during the mid- and late-1980s, and the
marketing ploy was beamed not to the general public, but to corporate
America:  Buy this, and all your core applications will work the same way.
You'll save time and money on training your employees.  (One of the biggest
follies in American economic history.)

You keep writing about the so-called "demands of the public," however, you
ignore that this industry geared itself to big corporate wallets long ago.
The needs and wants of individual computer users is addressed today only at
the low, bare-profit-margin end of the market.  Also, your implicit
assumption of free competition in response to consumer demand is quaint but
ridiculous.  Read up on the Microsoft antitrust case.

> Do you really think that in a market full of GUI based OS's
>  a marketing firm, no matter how good, could sell people on buying a
>  DOS based system with no pretty graphics and no mouse and no cute
>  icons?

Yes.  No question.

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>> pump filled fountain pens go, what do you think is the first thing
>> that gets thrown away on a pump filled pen? Cartridges where an
>> advancement, I don't see many people using bottled ink these days.


Oh dear, I don't stand a chance do I,  I use a HP200LX and a Waterman
pump filled fountain pen, I'm not yet 40 but I'm classed with my
equipment
as obsolete  <grin>

By the way I use:

1.   HP200LX 5Mb turbo -  Because it does the work I need (I'm an
      engineer, WinCE is nice and fluffy, but as yet it does not
attract me
      a psion would be my second choice (if they were not such a
      ridiculous price!) as I owned two Psion LZ 64's until upgrading
to
      the more modern HP200 early last year <chuckle>.

2.  I use a fountain pen because I enjoy the writing feel of the pen
and
     given time it wears in to your writing style.  I also use a
fairly unique
     green / turquoise ink that is not available in cartridges.

Dare to be different that's what I say.

Best regards......Liam
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Has anyone heard about this? I got this Email from an AOL address:

> Now you can learn EVERYTHING about your friends, neighbors, enemies,
> employees, co-workers, your boss, even yourself!
> ...
> See and record every word typed in e-mails, instant messages, chat =
rooms,
> message boards. Find out who they are talking to and what they are =
saying.
> See what type of chat rooms they are going in. Know the names of the =
private
> rooms they go in. Record and check out the web sites they are visiting =
or
> searching for.
>
> You can find out everything secretly....they will never even know you =
are
> doing it.  It will work on anyone that has online and they do not have =
to be
> using your computer.

Then the guy solicits $16.95 for a piece of software that
supposedly does this, plus another program that lets you find
driving records and all kinds of other personal information.

It sounds absurd to me, not to mention shocking, but is it
possible?  I cannot imagine how such a thing could work, but
there are any others on this list who have a better grasp of
what's possible and what's not than I.

So, what do you think?

-George-

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Patrik West wrote :

> Can we please let up on this issue? I for one don't want to
> drive Andreas from the list or worse to give him reason to
> stop dealing with the platform.
>
> As the song says "what part of no don't you understand?"

I fully support this statement. Save the hot air and electrons
for the questionaire.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:22:43 -0400 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
writes:
...
  "Old Technology" CAN be sold.  Just a
>matter of selecting the best target group.

HP has learned this. HP just formed the Apollo Consumer Products
subsidery. I know of two products so far. One is the P1200 which operates
just like a Deskjet 500C. Remember this printer? It takes either a black
pen OR a 3-color pen. The new Apollo printer is the "Barbie Printer" This
is the same as the P-1200 with accents in pink, a sheet of stickers to
put all over the printer, and a CD with Barbie clothing and hairstyle
software. Both printers are shipped with just a color pen. They do say
that you can run the black pen. How much black is used printing clothing
for Barbie?

Find the market. Have the product make in a labor market with low
expenses (Thailand). And if it is too low tech or unprofessional for your
image, sell it under another name (Apollo).

By the way, HP already owns the Apollo name in most markets since buying
Apollo Computer in 1989. I was acquired by HP when they bought Apollo.
Apollo made engineering workstations.

dmp

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:32:57 -0400 George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
writes:
>Has anyone heard about this? I got this Email from an AOL address:
>
>> Now you can learn EVERYTHING about your friends, neighbors, enemies,
>> employees, co-workers, your boss, even yourself!
...

>-George-
Just get out your Norton Commander and look at the ASCII in those
temporary internet files. I found some rather interesting items in the
computer my ex-wife sold me just before the divorce.

dmp

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, you wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:32:57 -0400 George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
> writes:
> >Has anyone heard about this? I got this Email from an AOL address:
> >
> >> Now you can learn EVERYTHING about your friends, neighbors, enemies,
> >> employees, co-workers, your boss, even yourself!
> ...
>
> >-George-
> Just get out your Norton Commander and look at the ASCII in those
> temporary internet files. I found some rather interesting items in the
> computer my ex-wife sold me just before the divorce.

That method is good, but it won't catch instant messages, and certainly won't
catch many volumes more information.

if you're running winblows at home, you are vulnerable to trojan horse attacks.
 these trojan horses run as a server that allows an attacker with the proper
client to command your machine with more efficiency than even you can sitting
at the console.

look up Netbus and BackOrifice.

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  I can make a hat of it for you."
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Peter,

Please let me know when your browser is available for beta testing.  Will it be
open source?

Don.


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> Rewriting JPEG for the palmtop was a ~$50.000 job if I count
> the time I invested. I did it for me in my spare time. But
> please don't think, only because I made it available for free
> it cannot be worth a lot!

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Hay algun user-group en Argentina?
O alguna lista?

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<If people were actually HAPPY with a command line based system then
UNIX would probably rule the day, virtually everything in UNIX is
command line driven. Even UNIX succomed to the need for a SIMPLER
interface and Xwindows was invented.>

Why are peoples always doing a difference between Unix command
lines and others? XWindows is a fully functional GUI like others.
If you compare something with the Unix command line, then you have
to compare it with the Windows registry.
User friendly? Laeckdochmiamtschoepi! What blocks your brain to
compare command lines with command lines and GUI\'s with GUI\'s?

-goe-

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<Pete asked whether a command-line machine could still be sold in a GUI
dominated market, even with aggressive marketing.  Well considering how
long the 100/200LX palmtops have survived with NO marketing, I think
the answer is yes...  Not with the mass market, but creative
salesmanship could almost certainly expand the already existing niche
market.>

When I unpacked my 200LX and started it up, I had a GUI. I never would
have to fumble around with a command line, if I would not like.

If I were a CE-like user, I probably never realized, that there is a
command line link on the LX GUI (yes, GUI!). I mean: in Windows 95 and
Windows NT you have the \'command line\' link too. So isn\'t it a GUI?

Windows 95 _IS_ DOS Ver. 7.0 with automatical starting Windows set as
standard. If you install Powertoys you can set DOS 7.0 to not to start
the GUI. Then you can see, what it really is: DOS 7.0.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Nokia will release a PCMCIA mobile phone with download speed up
> to 43.2 kbit/s.

The Nokia 8810 (available since last fall) supports up to 38400 baud.
But unfortunately, this does not serve any purpose until the network
providers also support that baud rate - and it does not seem is if they
would find an agreement in the near future, unfortunately.

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Ed Falk wrote:
> Hi all; can anybody tell me if the "adbload" program by
> Andreas Garzotto has been ported to the 200LX?

The original package comes with a EXE compiled for the 100LX.
Unfortunately, if it works on the 200LX or not is more a matter of luck
than anything else. Something changed from the 100LX to the 200LX and
even with the help of Andy Gryc I was not able to make it work
reliably.

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<Psion has announced that their next machine will support Java. According
to them, their Epoc operating system runs Java 5 times faster than
Windows CE. That gave me the following thought:  Could an enterprising
Java programmer eventually write a DOS emulator in Java? If that were to
happen, it sounds like the Psion would be the machine to run it on. :-)>

Linux runs not only on Intel machines. It runs on Alpha or PowerPC
machines too. Alpha and PowerPC are Risc machines. Windows CE runs
on Risc machines. So if a Linux version that runs on CE hardware is out,
you could have a Linux Palmtop with DOSEMU. Dosemu runs good on my
Pentium Desktop. It will probably be the better solution. Theoretically
a Dosemu should run with a simple Minix system too, doesn\'t it? And a
Minix for the palmtop already exists. How about a Minix, that runs on a
CE LX?

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:56:22 +0100
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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> Why are peoples always doing a difference between Unix command
> lines and others?

I share your lack of understanding why people think UNIX (or actually
most other OSes) are "command line driven" or "GUI driven".

Most OSes don't care about the way the user talks to them. An OS
provides services to run programs and access devices. There also is a
component to talk to the user. Of course, Windows is just a GUI to
which they forcefully tried to attach some OS functionality. So what
people *see* is the GUI. But saying UNIX is a "command line based" OS
is about as inappropriate as saying UNIX is a serial port based OS
(because you can attach a terminal to a serial port and command UNIX
from there).

> User friendly? Laeckdochmiamtschoepi!

I wonder how many readers understood that. :-) Nice to see some Swiss
German on the list!

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:20:37 -0700
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William,

> Well I could use the US power supply and an adapter...but then
> it's as big as the UK power supply.

Clearly! What I meant are the plugs that I see in my hotel and
other places, which are formed to accept the flat (US style) prongs and
the round (UK style, and European style) prongs. Caution:
ASCII art coming:

     +-- UK ---+
     |         |
     v         v

     _,       ,_
    (_|       |_)
      '       '

      ¬       ¬
      |       !
      +- US --+

No adapter needed - this is a plug on the wall! I see it a lot
here (UK), but I am ot sure how popular it is really.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:53:25 +0000
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Peter Borders wrote:

> I can't comment on the rest of the discussion but I can't pass this
> one up. All I can say is you either make ALOT of money per hour or
> you write assembly REALLY slow. Don't want to detract from your jpeg
> decoder but $50,000 would mean a whole lot of time even at $100+
> hour.

Let me calculate:

LXPIC has 10.868 lines of code. If you print it out at 64 lines
per page this is a book with 170 pages. Let's assume, 20 lines
of assembler code equal one line of C code, then you still have
~500 lines of comparable C code.

20 years of experience in C software projects resulted in a
world wide common sense, that the average output of a
programmer is 5 lines of error free C code per day. This
includes the whole life cycle of a project, not only the phase
of coding, but also design, specification, test, documentation.

Counted that way, LXPIC was a 100 day full time project for one
person. Paying him $500 per day is cheap if you know he is
capable of fulfilling the job. Let's be honest here. I'm not
talking of a student's work or a hobby programmer's work. I'm
talking of a real situation in the sofware industry of today.

If a digital camera manufacturer asks me to write a JPEG viewer
for the built in LCD screen of the camera, which must be fast
and run in 64KB memory and use the RISC assembler, then I would
say: This will take 100 days and costs you $50.000

Contracts of this kind are concluded x-times every day in the
worldwide IT business in which I am for 20 years now, or do you
think the MP3 software in the new little players was written in
a few afternoons and was only $1000?

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:51:29 +0200
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Hallo Daniel,

versuch es mal so:

Fn Filer     :    ¬Fn Filer ¬Filer
Filer         :    ¬Shift  1  ¬Shift  ¬1       !  Erzeugt das Zeichen !

Fn Appt    :     ¬Fn Appt  ¬Appt
Appt        :     Shift  2   ¬Shift  ¬2       ! Erzeugt das Zeichen @

.....  etc. weiter   mit   3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 0   und Phon, Memo, Quic, 123,
Calc, More


F|r Shift + "blue-key" habe ich auch noch keine Lvsung,
aber Fn +  "blue-Key" erf|llt ja auch den Zweck.

Gruss   Peter




Daniel Hertrich schrieb:

> Hi friends,
>
> I tried to swap the blue keys with its shifted characters
> ('!','@','#','$','¬','&','(',')') with KEY200.
> I used the following KEY200.INI file:
>
> Shift Filer   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Filer ¬Filer
> Filer         : Shift Filer ¬Filer ¬Shift
> Shift Appt   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Appt ¬Appt
> Appt         : Shift Appt ¬Appt ¬Shift
> Shift Phone   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Phone ¬Phone
> Phone         : Shift Phone ¬Phone ¬Shift
> Shift Memo   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Memo ¬Memo
> Memo         : Shift Memo ¬Memo ¬Shift
> Shift Quic   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Quic ¬Quic
> Quic         : Shift Quic ¬Quic ¬Shift
> Shift 123   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift 123 ¬123
> 123         : Shift 123 ¬123 ¬Shift
> Shift Calc   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift Calc ¬Calc
> Calc         : Shift Calc ¬Calc ¬Shift
> Shift More   : ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift More ¬More
> More         : Shift More ¬More ¬Shift
>
> but that didn't work. Shift-Filer gave me the '!' as usual, and 'Filer'
> in SysMgr gave me nothing, Shift-Filer in SysMgr gave me only a beep.
>
> I also tried to place _all_ double key macros at the beginning of the
> ini file (as suggested by the KEY200 help screen), but this gave me the
> same results.
>
> Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?
>
> And please explain, for what is the '¬Shift Shift ¬Shift..." stuff!
> (I tried also without the ¬Shift Shift ¬Shift, but also without
> success). This ins't logical to me. :-(
>
> TIA
> daniel
>
> P.S.: IT definitely doesn't interfere with other key-related TSR. I
> tried all this with _no_ other TSRs loaded.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>  Daniel Hertrich                         Berlin, Germany
>
>  email:                                d.hertrich@gmx.de
>  homepage:        http://www.user.tu-berlin.de/~dherbgba
>  telephone:                         +49 (0)177 795 55 49
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Date:         Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:47:01 -0400
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What, a DOS emulator written in Java to run in a virtual machine
on yet another CPU arch.? That is an emulator on top of a virtual
machine - this sounds like a recipie for disaster!

LOL,

Ken
khansen@njcc,com

PS: Is DOS really the only OS you folks will EVER use????

-----Original Message-----
From: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 8:46 PM
Subject: Another possible HP200LX replacement on the horizon?


>Hi All,
>
>I just read an interesting article by CNet at:
>http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C38401%2C00.html?dd.ne.txt.0628.21
>
>Psion has announced that their next machine will support Java. According
>to them, their Epoc operating system runs Java 5 times faster than
>Windows CE. That gave me the following thought:  Could an enterprising
>Java programmer eventually write a DOS emulator in Java? If that were to
>happen, it sounds like the Psion would be the machine to run it on. :-)
>
>It seems to me that a fast optional DOS emulator that could be run on one
>of today's up and coming machines, would be the path of least resistance
>in our quest for the functionality of an improved HP200LX. IMHO, it's
>rather doubtful that a new DOS machine will ever be produced by anyone.
>
>Who knows... If Java's acceptance grows, maybe the author of CE XT would
>become interested in writing a similar emulator in Java? :-) Just think
>of the possibilities!
>
>Please check out the article and voice your impressions.
>
>  Cheers!
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:25:57 +0000
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Hal,

I love the Zoom Pocket.  Yrs. ago it was around $185. Don't think you =
could get that today.  It would have to be under $100, probably less.

What's great is it doesn't use the Palmtop battery.  Has it's own 9v.  =
Radio Shack sells a 9v Lithium $6.99 that last a long time although it's =
quite a tight fit and you need to be careful not to pinch the wires to =
the connector.

Yes you can use the serial cable with one of the adaptors (9 pin to 9 pin =
I think).  But the best cable setup is by far the short (around 12 to 14 =
inches) custom cable that Dave Shier made/makes.  This just makes it =
almost as portable as PCMCIA device.

4 nice lights, MR, SD, RD, LB(low battery).  Basicly all you need.  =
Weighs about 5.5 ounces with the lithium battery installed.

Gary Spiers has one too.     =3DBob=3D


> I have an opportunity to buy 100 Zoom Pocket 14.4 modems for resale.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:43:41 EDT
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One of the last great DOS wordprocessors is still being sold and supported by
its originators, and it runs on the 200LX palmtop.  I refer to Nota Bene,
which has been around since 1983.  NB version 4.5a is based on the old
XyWrite III+ engine with innumerable enhancements.  You cannot fully realize
the effrontery of Pocket Word for WinCE unless you have tried it.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:49:45 +0100
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BTW Grey Cell are now wholly-owned by TDK.  They do a software modem too, but alas not for DOS systems.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:06:55 +0100
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Ah, now I understand.  They are not common in the UK - really only in bathrooms for shavers.  None in the office !

Enjoy the rain in London.   It's Wimbledon tennis, so it rains.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:08:24 -0400
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Hi Pete and All,

>First off, you really don't want to write an emulator in an
>interpreted language like java, it would be slow as molasses. Also,
>there is already a DOS emulator for EPOC but I don't know how far
>along it is, I just remember seeing posts about it. Second, saying
>that the psion runs java 5 times faster than wince is not saying much
>since the implementation of java on wince is not very good from what
>I have heard.

  Thanks for clearing up the misconception of the DOS for Java
possibility. However, you did mention a DOS emulator that already exists
for the EPOC OS. Since EPOC is an actual OS and the hype claims that it's
fast, is it possible that emulated DOS on a fast EPOC machine could run
at least as fast as a doublespeed HP200LX? Does anyone else have any more
information on the EPOC DOS emulator?

I still believe that our most realistic hope in finding improved
functionality over the doublespeed HP200LX is in an optional DOS emulator
on a fast palmtop. Also, that way, any additional benefits offered by
it's underlying OS would just be frosting on the cake.

  I don't really care how it is written or which OS a DOS emulator is
written for, as long as it will be in production for a while, it works
well and is fast enough to beat the Doublespeed HP200LX. Has anyone heard
how fast the emulated DOS is or is expected to be on a fast EPOC machine?

  Necessity is the  mother of invention...

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:31:44 -0400
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HV is a great piece of software.... Though I rarely use it to surf the
WWW I do use it everyday...

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:38:58 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Comments: To: Peter Caldwell <peter.caldwell@TREASURY.NT.GOV.AU>
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> There seems to be something wrong with the setup on the old archives
> site "http://www.palmtop.net/hp-archive/ghindex.html"  When tyring to
> search using the Glimpse HTTP Search tool, I get the following error
> message:
>
> "Glimpse not found

Just catching up on the list after a few days away...

I had to remove the search capabilities as there was a security hole found in
GlimpseHTTP and the authors stopped supporting it. You are the first to notice
it seems. :)

I still have all the archives. Probably the best thing would be to give them to
Al and let him merge them into his much larger database. Mine only covers about
6 months.
--
Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:57:30 +0100
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Me too, mostly I use a biro, but I do have and use a nice parker pen that runs on bottled ink.  I haven't done the maths, but I'm sure a bottle is much cheaper than cartridges.  Alas, I am over 40 (just) so I suppose this kind of behaviour is to be expected.

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> to compare it with the Windows registry.
> User friendly? Laeckdochmiamtschoepi!
                 ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

I want to both hear and read the translation of that word describing the
Windows' registry!!!!! (G)

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>
> As an aside, anyone that wants to pay me more than $100 an hour to
> write assembly please contact me. :-)
>

To add my $0.02 into this discussion.... my company charges $125 per hour
for Windows (including CE) development work and we've got more work than
people.

------------

As far as writing software for profit, I'm afraid there just aren't enough
warm bodies buying software to make DOS programming a money making
proposition any more. Its almost to the point where its custom programming.

I personally only use the built-in software. But those who use third party
stuff should thank their lucky stars that the volunteer software authors can
afford to spend the time on their behalf. (hey Stephan! are you into wife,
kids, mortgage yet?)

Maybe you could take up a collection and see how much $$ you can get
together from people to buy the services of someone to create a specific
feature for you. Andreas could probably give reasonable estimates of the
costs of each of the features requested. Not enough money raised, feature
not added. I don't blame him in the least for wanting to keep his effort in
line with the potential rewards.

rick

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:11:49 -0400
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I also use a fountain pen, I have several and like the feel and quality of
the pen. It also makes you slow down and write rather than scribble. I do
use a distinctive (Cobalt Blue) color than you can not find in a ball point
or roller ball.

I like the 200 because of it does so much and allows you to perform items
that newer systems just can not do. The system runs ACCis 4.0 which is great
for off-line reading of CIS forums and e-mail. WinCE can not connect to CIS
at this time. I do use both as neither fully supports my needs.

It is unfortunate that HP is dropping the 200 but it fills a small niche
market that is not competing. If one of the software houses would support
the 200 and update the connection software to allow syncing with MS Exchange
and Lotus Notes then HP could justify continuing producing the system.
Without support for newer software the HP200LX is just not cost effective.
It does not matter what we want it is a matter of business and what the
market will sell. Puma's IntelliSync was not updated because they (Puma) saw
no market not because they could not write software to perform the task.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
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We need a fountain pen serial port attachment development effort !

- Longden





"Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL> on 06/29/99 06:11:49 AM

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I also use a fountain pen, I have several and like the feel and quality of
the pen. It also makes you slow down and write rather than scribble. I do
use a distinctive (Cobalt Blue) color than you can not find in a ball point
or roller ball.

I like the 200 because of it does so much and allows you to perform items
that newer systems just can not do. The system runs ACCis 4.0 which is great
for off-line reading of CIS forums and e-mail. WinCE can not connect to CIS
at this time. I do use both as neither fully supports my needs.

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I just received my Aegis infrared link from Mitch and the S.U.P.E.R. store
and it is great.  I no longer have to plug a cable into my LX to transfer
files to the desktop PC.  If you haven't seen this device, look here:
http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html .

Just plug it in, set the comport and baud rate to 57600 and you are set to
transfer with both TransFile and Filer.  It even includes a DB9F/DB9M cable.

The only thing I could wish for with it is a way to get it to link to the
desktop connected printer.  I thought that OmniPrn might work (available on
S.U.P.E.R.), however, OmniPrn is limited to 2400, 9600, or 19200 baud and
the IR-HP5 seems to be fixed at 57600 baud.  The other problem I see is that
the Printer Menu in Setup does not allow 57600 baud.

Anyone got any other ideas?

ÝStandard Disclaimer:  I have no connection to Mitch and/or S.U.P.E.R.
except as a satisfied customer.¨

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:14:44 +0200
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              Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU>
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       Hello all,

Those refusing Stefan Peichl's mention of the 50.000$ as a guess on
worth of efforts put into LxPic implementation should consider that
the
recent version is v6.2. LxPic was being created for 3 years.

This means LxPic was rewritten from nearly scratch six times. The
nature of small assembler programs surely means you have to throw
away most of the existing code to incorporate any serious changes,
new features. Any decimal point upgrade (v60 -> v61) corresponds
to a major version upgrade of desktop software (Coreldrw v8 ->v9).

Also, Stefan spent a lot of time reading feedback from a few people,
demanding features impossible to implement or making no sense
95% of all the time, with the 5% rest being implemented as soon
as possible. But I do think Stefan would read more feedback, if
users took the effort to write down their ideas.

I was sad to see that very few ever tried to use it as a graphics
engine for their own programs, in spite the fact interfaces were
provided. It is extremely regrettable that LxMap got defunct,
because IMO it was one of the great ideas for palmtop use.
Of course early versions are often harder to use than desirable,
but can be refined later on.

                Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:41:29 -700
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Subject:      PC card reader

Still looking for a PC reader for my desktop I saw a shop offering a
"Kodak_Digital Camera Expansion Pack".
Could that reader be used with the PC cards from our HP LX?
Has somebody experience with this reader?
Automobile mufflers don't die, they just get exhausted.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:39:07 -0700
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Details?  a URL? How high is the learning curve?

Roger Feinman wrote:
>
> One of the last great DOS wordprocessors is still being sold and supported by
> its originators, and it runs on the 200LX palmtop.  I refer to Nota Bene,
> which has been around since 1983.  NB version 4.5a is based on the old
> XyWrite III+ engine with innumerable enhancements.  You cannot fully realize
> the effrontery of Pocket Word for WinCE unless you have tried it.
>
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I found this URL on a search engine:  http://www.notabene.com/nb1.html
<http://www.notabene.com/nb1.html>

Steve

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        Subject:        Re: A supported DOS Wordprocessor

        Details?  a URL? How high is the learning curve?

        Roger Feinman wrote:
        >
        > One of the last great DOS wordprocessors is still being sold
and supported by
        > its originators, and it runs on the 200LX palmtop.  I refer to
Nota Bene,
        > which has been around since 1983.  NB version 4.5a is based on
the old
        > XyWrite III+ engine with innumerable enhancements.  You cannot
fully realize
        > the effrontery of Pocket Word for WinCE unless you have tried
it.
        >
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The `... takes 2.5M of space ...' you must remember, was a statement
from a `designer' not a `programmer'. The actual `working set' of
Opera, at least when I run it, is a minimum of 5MB, and that _does
not_ count .DLLs already loaded because they are performing functions
for other Windows programs as well as for Opera.

Apparently the `designer' is unaware of the fact that, bloated as
Windows programs are, they are _much_ smaller than they would be if they
had to contain all of the `live' (DLL, for example) support that they
require to run.

Anyway, you are quite right---the 2.5m was an inept comparison...

Donald Collins wrote:
>
> Does this include all the DLLs in the windows/system directory?  Or does it not
> call any system DLLs?  I think your comparing apples to oranges when it comes
> to Windows programing and the palmtop.
>
> Don.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> I use Opera 3.6, the latest version, and fully decked
> out, it takes 2.5M of space.  This is a *Windows* program.  I should think
> that similar functionality could be had on the palmtop in less space,
> perhaps 2M.
>

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:10:59 +0100
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Sounds awesome, does anyone have much experience of this on the LX?   I see it particularly targets academic writers (which I am not), but I wonder how much it is used by mere mortals.  Otherwise I guess WP 5.1 is pretty standard ?

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:12:37 -0400
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This stuff was a part of our systems courses at MIT back when we had
only ARPAnet, and there was no WEB. In particular working papers of
the `MIS' group in the Management Science department at Sloan and
similar papers of the Decision Science department at Wharton might
be a starting place. Most of these papers were written before it
was common to maintain computer archives of text material, so I'm
not surprised if they fail to be reachable on the Web. Dates would
be from the inception of Project MAC at MIT (mid-1960s) thru the
founding and early years of Decision Sciences at Wharton (mid to late
1970s).

Sean Hoger wrote:
>
> David Ness wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >This is a well-enough established problem in the computer business to be
> >called: `The Second System Phenemenon', and has fairly evidently
>
> Interesting, but a quick web search on a couple of major search engines
> turned up nothing regarding this phenomenon.
>
> Sean Hoger
> shoger@pcdevel.com
>

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:05:51 -0700
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Brown, William wrote:
> Otherwise I guess WP 5.1 is pretty standard ?
>

That is mostly what I use on the HP.  I have 5.1 with screen
extender and the jeteye irda tool and can print nicely to my
office hp laserjet 2100.

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> > Even when it was new I doubt that the
> > DOS aspect or the command line could have sold it.

> Well - I'm definitely an eccentric market of one 8-) -  but that was
> the main reason for my 1st 100LX purchase.  Also, at the time, it was
> a selling point prominently displayed on the box.

Peniel,

     Make that at least two.  I didn't even know
the extent of the PIM software when I bought my
200LX.  1-2-3 and DOS in my pocket were the sell-
ing point for me.

Steve

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:09:49 -0700
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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> That is mostly what I use on the HP.  I have 5.1 with screen extender
> and the jeteye irda tool and can print nicely to my office hp laserjet
> 2100.

Screen extender?  And, do you have to have the jeteye to print to the IR
printer, or can you do it from the 200LX's IR port?

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:13:41 -0400
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There may be a little `hostility' in the air, but IMO it's well
deserved. I find it odd that anyone questions Andreas' instincts on
this problem. My HV executable (probably an old one) is 57Kb.
My last Netscape download was 18Mb.

My `instinct' tells me that it is just the `features' that people
want that account for some important chunk of the 18Mb.

So, while it's an oversimplification of the situation, one might
look at it this way: Analyzing by size, 1% of NetScape is still
more code than 3 times HV.

If I understand Andreas' point correctly, he's saying that there's
not much useful that could be added to HV _without_ changing its size
and scope by _at least_ and order of magnitude and probably more.

Many of us have had the `pleasure' of knowing the software that
Andreas has built. So we _know_ something about his credentials, and
the reasons for his opinions.

I don't know any such thing about the people who have been raising
questions about Andreas' intuitions. Perhaps they are _great_
programmers, but equally likely they (as we used to say at MIT) `couldn't
program their way out of a paper bag'. I'm surprised that, these
credentials wanting, anyone has wasted time discussing what appears to
me to be ignorant: `I'm sure it would be easy for someone else to ...'

Anyway, I think your observation is right on target.

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:32:34 +0100, Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:
>
> > Yes! Let Mr Butler do it! He is so amazingly intelligent and knows
> > everything about other people's products better than they do
> > themselves. He must be such a genious that I am sure he will rewrite HV
> > in a day or two.
>
> Do I sense hostility in the air <g>?
>
> Jeff
>

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:50:35 -0400
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The recent news about the mortality of our beloved palmtop leads me to ask a
nagging question: Does the Hplx dies from plain old age, and if so, about
how long does it take?
Please folks, don't post stories about how many times you swong a bat at the
palmtop before it finaly gave up on you.  :-)  Rather, did your palmtop die
from non-violent, non-negletfull (no coke/coffee stories, please) causes,
and if so:
1-Was it that you forgot the last free fall into concrete 6  months ago?
2-Did you get your unit used or new?
3-Was it a DS/memory upgrade unit (I suspect the surgery may increase the
mortality rate)?

The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and that is
preventable.

I look forward to your comments.

Domingo

P.S. It seems the list of late is approaching critical mass. 8=)

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:37:30 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 8:18 PM
Subject: Argentina, accesorios


> Aguien por ahi me podria pasar datos o direcciones para conseguir
accesorios
> para la 200LX

De Argentina no se nada, pero por el internet uno de los mejores sitios es
Thadeus.  Trata www.palmtop.net.  Al principio de la pagina encontraras un
enlace para esa compania.

Saludos,

Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
Un usuario del HP200LX de tiempo atras

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:01:57 -0400
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You sound like someone qualified to comment about the differences between
askSAM, InfoSelect and Lotus Agenda, from a personal, user perspective (I
know basically about the differences in approach to handling data).  Would
you mind commenting on this?
By the way, what is Inmagic Plus? Never heard of it.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.


> I have
> used it to maintain and search through large textbases with either askSAM
or
> Inmagic Plus.
> I have used it to store tidbits (random facts,
> fleeting thoughts, new must-do's) in either InfoSelect or Lotus Agenda
> because they don't quite fit anywhere else.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:38:22 +0100
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David Ness wrote:
> If I understand Andreas' point correctly, he's saying that there's
> not much useful that could be added to HV _without_ changing its size
> and scope by _at least_ and order of magnitude and probably more.

I think so. This is what concerns code size, but even more what
concerns data size. And I wonder how sluggish it would be if data size
is added, e.g. by using EMM.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:15:34 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Marketing


>On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:22:43 -0400 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
>writes:
>...
>  "Old Technology" CAN be sold.  Just a
>>matter of selecting the best target group.
>
>HP has learned this. HP just formed the Apollo Consumer Products
>subsidery. I know of two products so far. One is the P1200 which operates
>just like a Deskjet 500C. Remember this printer? It takes either a black
>pen OR a 3-color pen.

Deskjet that uses a *pen*?

>The new Apollo printer is the "Barbie Printer" This
>is the same as the P-1200 with accents in pink, a sheet of stickers to
>put all over the printer, and a CD with Barbie clothing and hairstyle
>software. Both printers are shipped with just a color pen. They do say
>that you can run the black pen. How much black is used printing clothing
>for Barbie?


When Barbie goes out "clubbing" in Manhattan, or when she goes
"Gothic" she'll burn through black (clothes) loike there is no tomorrow!

>Find the market. Have the product make in a labor market with low
>expenses (Thailand). And if it is too low tech or unprofessional for your
>image, sell it under another name (Apollo).


I guess you are saying that if you leverage existing tooling and a low
cost workforce "mature" technology can be viable?

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Patrick,

> That is mostly what I use on the HP.  I have 5.1 with screen
> extender

Same here. I am using WP 5.1+, if I have to produce formatted text,
which allows me to send faxes in WP quality. Very powerful tool. I did
start with WP 4.1 in the 80ties. It was a very good investment, which
did return a lot until today and will in the future.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:02:52 -0500
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Has anyone successfully used a Sandisk 440 meg card on their palmtop?  We
had a customer who called and said it didn't work in the 200LX but worked in
their laptop.  I just tested another and had the same experience -- it works
in a Win CE device and in my desktop's PC Card reader.  However, it doesn't
work on my 200LX.

Anybody have any ideas.

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I've been trying everything to get a macro to launch from the appt book.
As I understand it, I should type || followed by the macro number in the Description field.
thus, ||10  or || F10, or ???  Nothing seems to work.  I must be missing something...
Can someone please give me a hint?

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Re: Stefan Peichl's LXPIC:

>What do you expect from a single person programming in his
>spare time?  The best of all indeed ;-)

Absolutely -- this program is *the* program of choice for both the
desktop and the HP-LX. LXPIC is the best!

Jorgen

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 2:15 PM
Subject: 440 Meg card problems


>Has anyone successfully used a Sandisk 440 meg card on their palmtop?  We
>had a customer who called and said it didn't work in the 200LX but worked
in
>their laptop.  I just tested another and had the same experience -- it
works
>in a Win CE device and in my desktop's PC Card reader.  However, it doesn't
>work on my 200LX.

How does it not work?  Does it force the unit to turn off? or simply refuse
to recognize
there is a flash card in there?    Its possible a 440mb card draws more
power than the
200lx PCMCIA card slot can supply.  Have you tried it with an AC adapter
connected?

Its also possible that the HP can't recognize a card that big, im sure none
existed of
that size when the HP was produced :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Anybody have any ideas.
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I launch macro 7 from the appt book.

- Description: ||7  Close Apps & backup    (text after the macro numbers are
treated as comments)
- Location     Q         ( suppresses error msgs from the program/macro)
- Alarm=enabled
- Leadtime=0

- Longden





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I've been trying everything to get a macro to launch from the appt book.
As I understand it, I should type || followed by the macro number in the
Description field.
thus, ||10  or || F10, or ???  Nothing seems to work.  I must be missing
something...
Can someone please give me a hint?

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Look's like it's `dated' 1996 to me. Either it's a fake or a serious
candidate for `earliest pre-announcement'...

Steve Dowell wrote:
>
> >  Now here's an interesting item...  A 90 GB storage device, the size
> > of a poker chip!
> http://www.accpc.com/tcapstore.htm
>
> Steve
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Peniel Romanelli writes:
> Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:48:25 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hi Gang -
>
> Pete asked whether a command-line machine could still be sold in a GUI
> dominated market, even with aggressive marketing.  Well considering how
> long the 100/200LX palmtops have survived with NO marketing, I think
> the answer is yes...  Not with the mass market, but creative
> salesmanship could almost certainly expand the already existing niche
> market.

I would rather describe it as the machine that HP REFUSED to market. When Byte
first came out with their review of the HP95, I said OH wow! this suits my
needs. By the timeI was able to afford it, the HP200 was in the shop, so that
is what I bought. Did I hear ANYWHERE that the HP95 had been upgraded. NO.
Do HP here in Israel have any knowledge what the HP200 is about. NO.
Does the HP Israel web site have any mention of SUPER (even after I told the
guy responsible for marketing palmtops here) NOT A CHANCE.

The sad truth is that HP made a brilliant machine and were ashamed of it!


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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> C'mon - do you know of a fair sized group of quill pen users who manage
> to be equally productive with folks using modern pens?  Aside from its
> impending demise, the 200LX can be MORE productive than the yuppie
> toys.  8-)   And, anyway, it's the new stuff that crashes about as
> often as quill pens broke...  <g>
>

If you look at the advancements in computer technology then there is
MORE distance between a 200lx and something designed today then
between a quill pen and a BIC. It would probably be more fair to
compare a quill pen to a voice operated word processor.

> Pete - I'll have to send you that catalog.  The "Old Technology"
> pump-fill mechanism was being promoted as "the method preferred by
> fountain pen connoisseurs", or some such phrase.  The pens advertised
> this way don't take cartridges.  And, BTW, they DO sell bottled ink.
> I happen to agree with you about cartridges. But if they can convince
> folks to part with a few hundred bucks for inconvenience, they can
> probably market anything...
>
> Later...
>
> Regards
>
>
> -Peniel
> ------------

I don't doubt that they sell them, probably for increadible sums. I
make no claims regarding those that are mentally deficient or those
who have more money then sense. Personally I like foutain pens and
used to use one alot but they are still less reliable than a 25 cent
BIC and I certainly didn't use the pump fill type. :-)

Pete

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:20:37 -0700, A Meshar wrote:

>Clearly! What I meant are the plugs that I see in my hotel and
>other places, which are formed to accept the flat (US style) prongs and
>the round (UK style, and European style) prongs. Caution:
>ASCII art coming:

Aha, what you describe is a shaver socket. Only found in bathrooms in the
UK. You need a proper adaptor to enable you to use our "proper" mains
sockets.

--=20
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Subject:      Re: HP's and Fountain Pens

> Oh dear, I don't stand a chance do I,  I use a HP200LX and a Waterman
> pump filled fountain pen, I'm not yet 40 but I'm classed with my
> equipment
> as obsolete  <grin>
>
> By the way I use:
>
> 1.   HP200LX 5Mb turbo -  Because it does the work I need (I'm an
>       engineer, WinCE is nice and fluffy, but as yet it does not
> attract me
>       a psion would be my second choice (if they were not such a
>       ridiculous price!) as I owned two Psion LZ 64's until upgrading
> to
>       the more modern HP200 early last year <chuckle>.
>
> 2.  I use a fountain pen because I enjoy the writing feel of the pen
> and
>      given time it wears in to your writing style.  I also use a
> fairly unique
>      green / turquoise ink that is not available in cartridges.
>
> Dare to be different that's what I say.
>
> Best regards......Liam
> Bunbury , Western Australia
>

Well just be polite and say that you are an excentric. :-)

I say use what works. The thing I can't understand is the idea that
someone owes it to you to keep selling a particular thing, any thing.
It would have been nice to see a new improved hp but I was saying
over a year ago that it would never happen and that the hp would go
away soon. I am suprised that it lasted this long, not many computer
designs from over 4 years are still around.

All I can say is people, get over it. It is gone, it will NOT come
back and no amount of whining will bring it back. Also, there will
NOT be another DOS based machine built, except maybe a really small
outfit doing something with preexisting components and I doubt that.
So, if you depend on the 200lx get a spare, stockpile your software
and BE HAPPY. Who cares if no one else "gets" it or ever has one, YOU
have one and it makes YOU happy. If you need more power or want an
upgrade path SUPPORT the various emulator developers. BUY XTCE or the
EPOC emulator so that it will continue to be developed and maybe it
will become something that is usefull to YOU. Alternately, find ways
to do things with a different system, whatever it is. Most of what
people do today is just old software adapted to their needs, or a
few really nice new programs, so pick a system and DEVELOPE what is
not there so that it will work, or encourage others to DEVELOPE
something that you need.

Pete

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Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:44:06 +0100 (BST)

05h01m24s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:42:42 -0700 (CST), Roger Feinman wrote:

> One of the last great DOS wordprocessors is still being sold and supported by
> its originators, and it runs on the 200LX palmtop.  I refer to Nota Bene,

It is being sold yes, but AFAIK will not be enhanced as they now have
a windows version. Do you use ver 4.5a on your palmtop? It does run
but I found some menus would not come up - especially when one menu is
in a second window.

But XyWrite III + runs beautifully on the palmtop. It's extremely fast
and needs a lot less memory than NB4.5.

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> HP has learned this. HP just formed the Apollo Consumer Products
> subsidery. I know of two products so far. One is the P1200 which operates
> just like a Deskjet 500C. Remember this printer? It takes either a black
> pen OR a 3-color pen. The new Apollo printer is the "Barbie Printer" This
> is the same as the P-1200 with accents in pink, a sheet of stickers to
> put all over the printer, and a CD with Barbie clothing and hairstyle
> software. Both printers are shipped with just a color pen. They do say
> that you can run the black pen. How much black is used printing clothing
> for Barbie?
>
> Find the market. Have the product make in a labor market with low
> expenses (Thailand). And if it is too low tech or unprofessional for your
> image, sell it under another name (Apollo).
>
> By the way, HP already owns the Apollo name in most markets since buying
> Apollo Computer in 1989. I was acquired by HP when they bought Apollo.
> Apollo made engineering workstations.
>
> dmp

I can just see it now, a hot pink 200lx called the Barbie Date book.
Girls can use the PDA functions just like DAD has. Of course I don't
know if I would want a hot pink 200lx. :-)

That is a model that car companies have used for years. Different
divisions marketing to different groups while still selling the same
basic thing. The problem with something like the 200lx is finding a
market that is BIG enough to justify. There are probably 100 times as
many people with a Barbie as with an 200lx.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: HP's and Fountain Pens

> I also use a fountain pen, I have several and like the feel and quality of
> the pen. It also makes you slow down and write rather than scribble. I do
> use a distinctive (Cobalt Blue) color than you can not find in a ball point
> or roller ball.
>
> I like the 200 because of it does so much and allows you to perform items
> that newer systems just can not do. The system runs ACCis 4.0 which is great
> for off-line reading of CIS forums and e-mail. WinCE can not connect to CIS
> at this time. I do use both as neither fully supports my needs.
>
> It is unfortunate that HP is dropping the 200 but it fills a small niche
> market that is not competing. If one of the software houses would support
> the 200 and update the connection software to allow syncing with MS Exchange
> and Lotus Notes then HP could justify continuing producing the system.
> Without support for newer software the HP200LX is just not cost effective.
> It does not matter what we want it is a matter of business and what the
> market will sell. Puma's IntelliSync was not updated because they (Puma) saw
> no market not because they could not write software to perform the task.
>
> Stephen Souza
> System Administrator
> COMNAVSURFLANT
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> *DSN:  836-3204
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So the concensus is that most of the people on this list use fountain
pens with bottle ink and 200lx's, kind of tells you something about
the average list user. :-)

Ok, everybody raise there have that doesn;t have a TV and still uses
a horse drawn carraige. :-)

Pete




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Subject:      Re: HV vs. OPERA

> It takes a whole lot longer to write tight code than puffffy M/S style code.
> I always feel like an idiot when I am forced to price S/W by the SLOC.  I'd
> vastly prefer to pay $100/hr to someone who knows how to do the job than
> $10/hr to someone who doesn't.
>
> Lynn

I don't think anyone at M$ actually writes the code, I think I heard
something about a big room full of monkeys and keyboards. :-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

I responded to this OFF the list to save the poster from any further
embarassment. :-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft.

As before I responded OFF the list since the poster seems to have
trouble deciding which side of the arguement to take. :-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: HV vs. OPERA

> To add my $0.02 into this discussion.... my company charges $125 per hour
> for Windows (including CE) development work and we've got more work than
> people.
>
> ------------

I said I would write ASSMEBLER for $100 an hour. It would take MUCH
more than that for me to write windows programs, probably in C. I
have my standards. :-)

Pete

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Subject:      Re: HV vs. OPERA

> Peter,
>
> Please let me know when your browser is available for beta testing.  Will it be
> open source?
>
> Don.
>

Oh, I am cut to the bone.


Sorry but I have much better things to do with my spare time than
write DOS programs. I used to but got tired of it and didn't want to
mess with windows, yuck.

I think it is great that someone likes to write DOS programs and I
applaud their fine work. I just questioned that statement that it was
worth $50.000. I defy anyone to find a company that would pay them
$50.000 to write a DOS program in assembler today.

Personally I think that assembly language programming is great and
it is sad that so many of todays programmers can barely spell
assembly, let alone write something in it. That is the exact reason
that we have 80M OS's and programs that take half a gigabyte. Someday
soon no one will remember how to write a small efficient program, and
then we will be sorry.

Pete


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Dear all,

now I know you all as friends so...
I'm a bit nervous about this, but.....
Yes, I admit it. I'm also a HP200 user, and I use a fountain pen!!
And the worse thing is I'm only 37!
Dave

PS I also have a collection of Slide rules.
Now if has Bill found a way to make logarithms obsolete?

pps
From a very wet and windy London,
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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft

> <If people were actually HAPPY with a command line based system then
> UNIX would probably rule the day, virtually everything in UNIX is
> command line driven. Even UNIX succomed to the need for a SIMPLER
> interface and Xwindows was invented.>
>
> Why are peoples always doing a difference between Unix command
> lines and others? XWindows is a fully functional GUI like others.
> If you compare something with the Unix command line, then you have
> to compare it with the Windows registry.
> User friendly? Laeckdochmiamtschoepi! What blocks your brain to
> compare command lines with command lines and GUI\'s with GUI\'s?
>
> -goe-

Excuse me, did you even BOTHER to read the post. I was making the
point the people wanted a simpler user interface and that is what
predicated the developement of the GUI. UNIX is NOT XWINDOWS.
XWindows is a GUI ON TOP of unix that was developed for the same
reason that other GUI's were developed, to simplify the user
interface. If people didn't want or need a simpler user interface
then XWindows and other GUI's would probably not have been developed
or at least not have become very popular. Also, there is not way yo
compare a user interface to a configuration database so I have no
idea WHAT you are talking about comparing XWindow to the windows
registry. Talk about apples to oranges, those two are not even in the
same family. Go back and reread the post, or even the part you copied
above and think about it.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> When I unpacked my 200LX and started it up, I had a GUI. I never would
> have to fumble around with a command line, if I would not like.
>
> If I were a CE-like user, I probably never realized, that there is a
> command line link on the LX GUI (yes, GUI!). I mean: in Windows 95 and
> Windows NT you have the \'command line\' link too. So isn\'t it a GUI?
>
> Windows 95 _IS_ DOS Ver. 7.0 with automatical starting Windows set as
> standard. If you install Powertoys you can set DOS 7.0 to not to start
> the GUI. Then you can see, what it really is: DOS 7.0.
>
> -goe-

The point of the original post was that some people on this list seem
to think that DOS is the greatest thing and that a DOS based system
is still a viable market entity, which it is obviously not since HP
dropped the last one in existance. Everyone that is moderately
computer oriented knows that win9x is really a gui shell on top of
DOS but that is not the way it is sold. Also, the majority of
noncomputer oriented people DO NOT understand that DOS is a seperate
thing under win9x, they think that win9x is the OS, like M$ tells
them. When you go in a store and look at a computer it doesn't point
out the thousands of DOS programs it can run and the gret command
line interface that it has, it points out the GUI because that is
what SELLS. Even HP added a GUI to sell the 95-200lx since they
probably figured out BACK THEN that without a GUI it wouldn't sell.

Pete

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Hal,

I had this problem with all the San Disk Compact flash of
various sizes.
he answer in my case is totally fresh batteries. I do't know
what it is but anytime I replace another card with a sandisk
CF it doesn't see it until I put fresh double AAs.


Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> Has anyone successfully used a Sandisk 440 meg card on their palmtop?  We
> had a customer who called and said it didn't work in the 200LX but worked in
> their laptop.  I just tested another and had the same experience -- it works
> in a Win CE device and in my desktop's PC Card reader.  However, it doesn't
> work on my 200LX.
>
> Anybody have any ideas.
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Subject:      Re: Another possible HP200LX replacement

> Linux runs not only on Intel machines. It runs on Alpha or PowerPC
> machines too. Alpha and PowerPC are Risc machines. Windows CE runs
> on Risc machines. So if a Linux version that runs on CE hardware is out,
> you could have a Linux Palmtop with DOSEMU. Dosemu runs good on my
> Pentium Desktop. It will probably be the better solution. Theoretically
> a Dosemu should run with a simple Minix system too, doesn\'t it? And a
> Minix for the palmtop already exists. How about a Minix, that runs on a
> CE LX?
>
> -goe-

Sorry but that won't work at all. While it is quite possible to write
appropriate drivers to run linux natively on a wince risc processor
DOSEMU will not work. DOSEMU is rather poorly named, it is not en
emulator it is a virtual machine. It does not do any sort of
instruction set conversion it basically just emulates the hardware of
a pc inside a standard virtual machine. In order for it to run on any
processor other than intel it would need a total rewrite to include
the processor emulation to convert intel machine instructions to
something that would run on the host processor. This is the same
reason that DOSEMU doesn't run on Alpha or PowerPC processors, it
only runs on intel systems. This is also why a program like XTCE is
slower, it has alot more work to do in emulating the processor as
well as all the hardware.

Pete

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David Sargeant wrote about wp51:
>

> Screen extender?
Improved fonts for Wp51 also show underlinering and such.

> And, do you have to have the jeteye to print to the IR
> printer, or can you do it from the 200LX's IR port?
I don't have a jeteye, just the drivers from "super" they
allow me to print from the hplx's ir port to the ir port of
the hp 2100 laserjet.


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>I am suprised that it lasted this long, not many computer
>designs from over 4 years are still around.

Good point.  Typically, a 4 year old computer is only good for a donation.

>All I can say is people, get over it. It is gone, it will NOT come
>back and no amount of whining will bring it back.

But isn't it the squeaky wheel that gets the oil?

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Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft

> Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> > Why are peoples always doing a difference between Unix command
> > lines and others?
>
> I share your lack of understanding why people think UNIX (or actually
> most other OSes) are "command line driven" or "GUI driven".
>
> Most OSes don't care about the way the user talks to them. An OS
> provides services to run programs and access devices. There also is a
> component to talk to the user. Of course, Windows is just a GUI to
> which they forcefully tried to attach some OS functionality. So what
> people *see* is the GUI. But saying UNIX is a "command line based" OS
> is about as inappropriate as saying UNIX is a serial port based OS
> (because you can attach a terminal to a serial port and command UNIX
> from there).
>
> Andreas

Sorry to say but the only native user interface that any unix I have
ever seen has is a command line based interface. You can ADD a shell
that implements a graphical user interface, call XWindows, but that
is NOT part of unix. To be strictly technical unix itself DOES NOT
have any user interface, it requires an added on SHELL program to
implement a command line interface for user interaction. As far as
calling it serial port based that has nothing to do with the user
interface whatsoever.

Remember we are talking about the machine to human interface here,
how the user controls the machine. The original interface was via a
switchbank, call it a toggle user interface (TUI?). That was soon
enhanced, first to a punch card based or tape base user interface
(PCUI?) then finally to a command line based interface (CUI? CLI to
Amiga fans). The latest development stage introduces the graphical
user interface (GUI), compliments of Xerox's Palo Alto Research
Center (PARC). All of these have to do with humans controlling the
mahcine and have nothing to do with the particular hardware involved.
UNIX began its life and REMAINS a command line based interface,
supplimented by an added on GUI shell by the name of XWindows. There
have been other GUI shells implemented over UNIX, Xwindows is just
the most popular. Adding XWindows to a unix system does not change
the fact that UNIX is a command line based system any more than
adding win9x to DOS makes DOS any less command line based. Also, the
actual hardware device used to enter commands, via GUI or command
line, is not part of a user interface discussion. I have a friend
that is blind and uses speech output uners win9x, does that magically
make windows no longer a GUI shell on top of DOS?

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Death from natural causes?

> The recent news about the mortality of our beloved palmtop leads me to ask a
> nagging question: Does the Hplx dies from plain old age, and if so, about
> how long does it take?
> Please folks, don't post stories about how many times you swong a bat at the
> palmtop before it finaly gave up on you.  :-)  Rather, did your palmtop die
> from non-violent, non-negletfull (no coke/coffee stories, please) causes,
> and if so:
> 1-Was it that you forgot the last free fall into concrete 6  months ago?
> 2-Did you get your unit used or new?
> 3-Was it a DS/memory upgrade unit (I suspect the surgery may increase the
> mortality rate)?
>
> The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and that is
> preventable.
>
> I look forward to your comments.
>
> Domingo
>
> P.S. It seems the list of late is approaching critical mass. 8=)

A good question for a change. I don't know exactly what internal
eprom or rom chips are used but most eprom chips have a definate life
span. As a collector of old computers I am familiar with this problem
and from everything I have read and seen it is still an issue. If the
hp's have actual rom chips, programmed by mask techniques or prom
chips, write once destructively, then we are safe. If on the other
hand they use eproms then the stored information will eventually
fail. I seem to remember a claim of 20 years but it may be less.

Another area to watch out for is the internal writable memory, is it
implemented as DRAM, Static RAM or Flash RAM. Flash RAM has a limited
cycle life, especially older versions.

Maybe Mack could be more specific, I haven't taken mine apart to see
the specific chips and types.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> >HP has learned this. HP just formed the Apollo Consumer Products
> >subsidery. I know of two products so far. One is the P1200 which operates
> >just like a Deskjet 500C. Remember this printer? It takes either a black
> >pen OR a 3-color pen.
>
> Deskjet that uses a *pen*?

I wonder if he meant one of the old HP PLOTTERS. I have a couple and
they actually do use little pens. The Deskjet series were all injet
printers, no pens.

> >The new Apollo printer is the "Barbie Printer" This
> >is the same as the P-1200 with accents in pink, a sheet of stickers to
> >put all over the printer, and a CD with Barbie clothing and hairstyle
> >software. Both printers are shipped with just a color pen. They do say
> >that you can run the black pen. How much black is used printing clothing
> >for Barbie?
>
> When Barbie goes out "clubbing" in Manhattan, or when she goes
> "Gothic" she'll burn through black (clothes) loike there is no tomorrow!

Ah, you know Barbie well, do you? :-)

> >Find the market. Have the product make in a labor market with low
> >expenses (Thailand). And if it is too low tech or unprofessional for your
> >image, sell it under another name (Apollo).
>
> I guess you are saying that if you leverage existing tooling and a low
> cost workforce "mature" technology can be viable?
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>

Isn't that how the 200lx has lasted this long?

Pete

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A while back, there was a brief thread on using the Imation SuperDisk
drive with the 200LX.  Did anybody ever determine if this was possible
using the parallel port version?  I just downloaded the DOS drivers and
they seemed to run on the palmtop, although of course without a parallel
card or a drive I was unable to really test it.

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What is the name of the IR driver you obtained from the super site?
Are you able to print from DOS with the drivers directly to the HP2100
Laserjet?



David Sargeant wrote about wp51:
>

> Screen extender?
Improved fonts for Wp51 also show underlinering and such.

> And, do you have to have the jeteye to print to the IR
> printer, or can you do it from the 200LX's IR port?
I don't have a jeteye, just the drivers from "super" they
allow me to print from the hplx's ir port to the ir port of
the hp 2100 laserjet.


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Subject:      Re: HP's and Fountain Pens

> >I am suprised that it lasted this long, not many computer
> >designs from over 4 years are still around.
>
> Good point.  Typically, a 4 year old computer is only good for a donation.
>
> >All I can say is people, get over it. It is gone, it will NOT come
> >back and no amount of whining will bring it back.
>
> But isn't it the squeaky wheel that gets the oil?
>
> Don.

You mean a barrel over the head?

Pete

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17h55m13s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> > C'mon - do you know of a fair sized group of quill pen users who =
manage
> > to be equally productive with folks using modern pens?
>
> If you look at the advancements in computer technology then there is
> MORE distance between a 200lx and something designed today then
> between a quill pen and a BIC.

Hi, Pete-

Congratulations on yet another slick change-of-subject. <g>   I'll
concede about a quarter point to this argument.  Everybody here will
freely admit that the 200LX is old technology.  The question here was
about productivity, not technological advancements.

AFAIK - No one is making productive use of quill pens today.  Lots of
us, maybe even including you, regularly do serious, productive work on
the 200LX.  The age of its technology is completely irrelevant, as long
as it works well.

BTW - If you REALLY consider your 200LX as useless as a quill pen, I'll
be glad to relieve you of the burden.   8-)

Regards


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Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:23:27 -0400 (EDT)

17h50m54s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> > It takes a whole lot longer to write tight code than puffffy M/S
> > style code.
>
> I don't think anyone at M$ actually writes the code, I think I heard
> something about a big room full of monkeys and keyboards. :-)

ROFL - for a change I think you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT  8-)


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> Afraid you have your facts a little mixed up....

Yes, you're right, I apologize for the inaccuracy.  But it still doesn't
change the fact that MS got DOS from somebody else and made a huge chunk
of money on it and therefore were able to heavily finance other
projects.

>That part is correct, but of course MS will argue that they didn't
>REQUIRE a royalty on any machine without MS-DOS. Their point is that
>EVERY machine sold with MS-DOS, which is probably true. Even today it
>is almost impossible to by a major manufactuers machine with an OS
>except some MS product.

Yes, they would argue so, and they would probably be lying (unless I'm
*totally* wrong).

>...better marketing beat out a superior product. I think it basically
>comes down to the fact that people are sheep and buy whatever they
>are told to buy. 8-)

Yes, again.  And, yes, it is sad.  It's a wonder that the world keeps
running with so many inferior products <g>
(All hail to the lowest bidder!)

And, yes, everyone, I'm a Micro$oft basher/hater.

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Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:48:50 -0500 (EST)

     It would seem purdent to remind folks not to make personal issues
out of these debates. Let's calm down a bit...please? Or take your
comments off the HPLX-L!

Cheers,

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DOS compatibility, and the flexibility that it has, was THE reason I
bought the 200lx instead of the Psion/PalmPilot, etc.

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, David Ness wrote:

> There may be a little `hostility' in the air, but IMO it's well
> deserved. I find it odd that anyone questions Andreas' instincts on
> this problem. My HV executable (probably an old one) is 57Kb.
> My last Netscape download was 18Mb.

My last browser download was about 1.5M.

> My `instinct' tells me that it is just the `features' that people
> want that account for some important chunk of the 18Mb.

I imagine the most important chunk of the 18MB is bloat.  Assuming Netscape
is about twice as functional as Opera, that's 15MB of unused or poorly
written code.  When comparing that to the 57Kb, you have to consider what
would be bloated on a palmtop, such as GIF/JPG/whatever decoding, which can
be done by the LXPIC engine in 11K, but probably takes 200K in Windows
because it uses standard JPEG Group code, like Stefan said.  Pile on another
200K for the scripting language support, and you can see where all these
standard libraries start to lead.

> So, while it's an oversimplification of the situation, one might
> look at it this way: Analyzing by size, 1% of NetScape is still
> more code than 3 times HV.

Divide by three for bloat, and HV is, judging by code size, about 1% as
functional as Netscape.  I won't argue that point.

> If I understand Andreas' point correctly, he's saying that there's
> not much useful that could be added to HV _without_ changing its size
> and scope by _at least_ and order of magnitude and probably more.

This is true.  But if you have, say, an 8M machine like I do (thanks Mack,
David), 57K is ludicrously undersized.  I'd rather have a 600K executable
that uses EMS so that it can run and adds a great deal of browsing support
not otherwise available.  There is absolutely no reason not to have real,
honest-to-goodness browsing power available for these larger machines.

> Many of us have had the `pleasure' of knowing the software that
> Andreas has built. So we _know_ something about his credentials, and
> the reasons for his opinions.

'Pleasure' is right.  <evil snicker>  <g>

> I don't know any such thing about the people who have been raising
> questions about Andreas' intuitions. Perhaps they are _great_
> programmers, but equally likely they (as we used to say at MIT) `couldn't
> program their way out of a paper bag'. I'm surprised that, these
> credentials wanting, anyone has wasted time discussing what appears to
> me to be ignorant: `I'm sure it would be easy for someone else to ...'

The reason I can't speak for palmtop programming is I don't know C or Perl,
the only two languages that support PAL.  I can program just fine in about
6-7 other languages (mostly legacy), and I know my way around small systems.
The only reason I'm not shutting up about this is that I can't write a
better program (because I don't know C, not because I'm not capable of
writing programs of that magnitude (because I have)), but I can help.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
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This discussion of marketing reminds me of a fantasy novel I read
recently by Terry Goodkind called "Wizards First Rule".  And, What IS
the wizards' first rule?: People are stupid. They will believe what they
want to believe, or what they are afraid might be true.

Anyway, highly recommended if you like fantasy.

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Subject:      Re: HV vs. OPERA

> > > It takes a whole lot longer to write tight code than puffffy M/S
> > > style code.
> >
> > I don't think anyone at M$ actually writes the code, I think I heard
> > something about a big room full of monkeys and keyboards. :-)
>
> ROFL - for a change I think you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT  8-)
>
>
> -Peniel

The laws of chance say that I have to be right ONCE is a while. :-)

Pete

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>khansen@njcc,com wrote:

>PS: Is DOS really the only OS you folks will EVER use????

Answer:

No, it's just the most flexible.  Win9x is OK, and fairly easy to use,
but has tremendous stability and usability problems.  DOS is stable and
only requires one the type out the command and run the program. Simple.

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> No, it's just the most flexible.  Win9x is OK, and fairly easy to use,
> but has tremendous stability and usability problems.  DOS is stable
> and only requires one the type out the command and run the program.
> Simple.

Not only that, but it's well-suited for the handheld form factor.  DOS is
fairly small and quick, compared to a GUI.

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:15:34 -0400, Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
kh> >just like a Deskjet 500C. Remember this printer? It takes either a =
black
kh> >pen OR a 3-color pen.
kh>
kh> Deskjet that uses a *pen*?

Down on the manufacturing floor we refer to the inkjet
cartriges as pens, dunno why, probably because they lay
down ink and pen is shorter.

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If you are used to working with the split-screen code view in WP 5.1, Nota
Bene will pose no hazard to you.  You can turn codes on or off as it pleases
you

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> So the concensus is that most of the people on this list use fountain
> pens with bottle ink and 200lx's, kind of tells you something about
> the average list user. :-)
>
> Ok, everybody raise there have that doesn;t have a TV and still uses
> a horse drawn carraige. :-)
>
> Pete
>
> Peter W. Borders
>

OK Peter, I'll bite now.  I use not one fountain pen, but a different one daily,
mostly with black but also with blue-black and brown (a gift) ink.  I have 2 HPLX
200 ( one for my nurse and one for myself) and do not own a tv (with 3 children,
yet).  I don't like horses, but do use them for travel in the Rocky Mountains.  I
do have a Dodge, though.

Would the collective buying power of all LX users purchasing 1-n new machines
influence HP?  Probably not enough at that.

Stan Gall

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> OK Peter, I'll bite now.  I use not one fountain pen, but a different one daily,
> mostly with black but also with blue-black and brown (a gift) ink.  I have 2 HPLX
> 200 ( one for my nurse and one for myself) and do not own a tv (with 3 children,
> yet).  I don't like horses, but do use them for travel in the Rocky Mountains.  I
> do have a Dodge, though.
>
> Would the collective buying power of all LX users purchasing 1-n new machines
> influence HP?  Probably not enough at that.
>
> Stan Gall

Guess I should dig out some of my old fountain pens, I have some
pretty old ones that were my grandfathers. They only use a pump of
course the bladder may be shot after all this time.

As far as HP goes I doubt that all of us buying 10 machines would
faze them. They are probably already planning for 5 years from now
and what they will do with the 200lx production lines.

Ok, here is a weird question for all you fountain pen lovers, anyone
know of a good place to get them fixed via mail thats not too
expensive? See above, mostly bladder problems, the pens not me. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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n a message dated 6/29/99 5:00:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us writes:

> Well that statement is totally silly. If something in not obsolete
>  just because SOMEONE SOMEWHERE finds it usefull then NOTHING IN THE
>  HISTORY OF COMPTERS IS OBSOLETE and by your standard EVERYTHING shoud
>  still be for sale and marketed agressively. Since you seem to have
>  some confusion over the term obsolete here are the definitions as
>  listed in the American Heritage Dictionary:
>
>  Obsolete: 1. No longer in use
>            2. Outmoded in style, design or construction
>            3. Increasingly vestigial or disappearing in each
>               succeeding genertion
>
>  Now by definition 1 no computer that anyone uses is obsolete, which
>  is utterly ridiculous in the computer technology context. By
>  definition 2 and somewhat 3 we see that the 200ls IS OBSOLETE
>  especially in the computer industry context.
>
>  Personally I am perfectly happy that you and others find uses for
>  these machines. I collect old machines and like it when I can put
>  them to good use but I hardly go around proclaiming that they are the
>  greatest things in the world. My old computers are all obsolete, I
>  understand that but it doesn't bother me because to me they are
>  interseting and useful, many others would look at them as a waste of
>  space. Since you seem to want to treat this as a religous issue feel
>  free to take you evngelical tendencies somewhere else, I am not
>  interested.
>
If I am "religious", then you are most certainly epistemological on this
subject, and I don't play semantical games.  BTW, in my travel kit I keep an
HP-12C calculator, which is still being sold for same price I paid for it
----- over 20 years ago.  By your definition, or almost anyone else's, it is
obsolete and there is no logical justification for its continuation.  But
there it is on dealers' shelves.  Something to consider.

-roger-

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Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I have just
received a new unit from Thaddeus and would like to ensure that it lasts as
long as possible ..........

TIA

Anand

At 12:50 PM 29-06-1999 Tuesday -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

>
>The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and that is
>preventable.
>
>I look forward to your comments.
>
>Domingo

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In a message dated 6/29/99 5:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, th@CSI.COM
writes:

> It is being sold yes, but AFAIK will not be enhanced as they now have
>  a windows version. Do you use ver 4.5a on your palmtop? It does run
>  but I found some menus would not come up - especially when one menu is
>  in a second window.
>
>  But XyWrite III + runs beautifully on the palmtop. It's extremely fast
>  and needs a lot less memory than NB4.5.
>
I don't know that they have made any decision to discontinue the DOS product,
and it is still sold and supported.  Remember, they market to an audience
that doesn't necessarily need to have the latest and greatest hardware, and
there may stilll be an interest in a package that runs on any IBM-compatible.

I haven't encountered the problem you mention.  Naturally, if you are working
with multiple large documents at once,  you are eventually going to come up
against the limits in the palmtop's 640Kb memory address space.  In this
case, some menus, which are program overlays, may not load.  That having been
said, I have successfully used NB4.5a with drivers preloaded for either
CD-ROM or Zip drive connectivity.  The former poses no problem at all.  In
the latter case, NB4 tells me it doesn't like the situation, but it runs
anyway.  This impresses me very much.

What I have encountered is that, when you're not using the menus, some of the
combination keystroke commands are difficult to perform on the palmtop's
keyboard, but there are usually substitutes and workarounds for these, in the
same manner that other programs have special combinations for laptop
keyboards.

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   >This discussion of marketing reminds me of a fantasy novel I read
   >recently by Terry Goodkind called "Wizards First Rule".  And, What
   >IS the wizards' first rule?: People are stupid. They will believe
   >what they want to believe, or what they are afraid might be true.
Message-Id: <19990630013548.YUAS1417@Ý12.72.155.52¨>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 01:35:49 +0000

Also similar to Charlotte's explanation to the farm animals on why her plan
to save Wilbur the pig would work in "Charlotte's Web".  She
explained..."humans are very gullible, they tend to believe anything they
see in print".

- Longden

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<Pete asked whether a command-line machine could still be sold in a GUI
dominated market, even with aggressive marketing.  Well considering how
long the 100/200LX palmtops have survived with NO marketing, I think
the answer is yes...  Not with the mass market, but creative
salesmanship could almost certainly expand the already existing niche
market.>

  Creative marketing works miracles every day.  Just pick up a Damark
catalog and take a look through it for undeniable proof. There is no
doubt that obsolete wigits are purchased every day in quantities for
pennies and then creatively marketed for dollars as solutions to
completely different problems.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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I apologize but that message escaped from mailbox before I had the chance to
finish it.  The URL is:

http://www.notabene.com

The interesting thing is, they just came out with the very first Windows port
of the software within the last few months, and it imports docs created in
the DOS version seamlessly.  The Windows version also converts to MS-Word
without any additional software, which makes things much less cumbersome than
using Word-4-Word or some other translation utility.  Okay, back to the DOS
version.

The basic wordprocessor fits on a standard 4Mb LX with plenty of room to
spare.  The full distribution package includes disk-eating extras, however,
such as a flat-file bibliographical database program that can be adapted to
other uses, and a full-text indexed search and retrieval program for all docs
created in NB, which are ASCII with ASCII format tags, so that means you can
index plain ASCII too.  The Wordfinder thesaurus and a spell-checker are also
included.  NB is marketed toward academics, but it contains all the top-shelf
features and more, for example up to three series of footnotes and endnotes
in the same document, in any combination; automatic envelope generation,
transposition, automatic replacement of misspelled words (this can be turned
off), math operations, very sophisticated file-handling, up to nine documents
opened in separate windows at once, and more.  But one of the biggest pluses,
mainly for hackers, is the XPL macro programming language, which is ported
almost directly from XyWrite.

The interface gives users their choice of pull-down menus or command line
function calls.  The latter are not user-friendly, but once mastered make
this a very fast tool to work with, even on an 8086 platform.  On higher
platforms it takes advantage of extended memory using PharLap's DOS extender
to speed up operations even more, although this feature will not be available
on the palmtop.  Depending on what you want to do, the learning curve can be
slight or steep.  However, the documentation is extremely thorough.

The original developer had at one time sold the company but bought it back
and issued the last update.  This is an example of a developer who aimed at a
niche market, gave it what it wanted, and managed to stay in business.

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Posted this to the list earlier but here it is again.

http://www.extremecomputing.com/xcom/closeouts.html

This page has some closeout sales.  Included are some external PCMCIA
card readers for US$46.95.

Larry Zimmerman

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:41:29 -700 Constant Brouerius van Nidek
<constant@INDO.NET.ID> writes:
>Still looking for a PC reader for my desktop I saw a shop offering a
>"Kodak_Digital Camera Expansion Pack".
>Could that reader be used with the PC cards from our HP LX?
>Has somebody experience with this reader?
>Automobile mufflers don't die, they just get exhausted.
>
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As some one who has done a bit of programming, from assembly (started out on a
MITS computer, flicking switches to load the cassetee boot code) to C, I think
that the real driver has been missed in this discussion - we programmed in
assembler because we HAD to  -  C is much nicer, and you can find zealots for
every other language out there (I'm also partial to Pascal). As memory, hard
drives, and CDROMs made larger programs easier to handle, the cost
effectiveness of using assembler went down the tubes - usually in any well
developed infrastructure it is the personal labor costs that are the driving
factor.

Assembly is particularly well suited to the HPLX, because of finite storage and
processing power. Generally speaking, though, anything that would require
assembly language for acceptable performance today in a standard PC, will
function quite well in a higher levl language in two years because the hardware
guys are kicking serious butt in continuing the development and refinement of
computing power - I hope they can keep it up, and wonder what the final
engineering boundaries will be.

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<
> Why are peoples always doing a difference between Unix command
> lines and others? XWindows is a fully functional GUI like others.
> If you compare something with the Unix command line, then you have
> to compare it with the Windows registry.
> User friendly? Laeckdochmiamtschoepi! What blocks your brain to
> compare command lines with command lines and GUI\'s with GUI\'s?
Excuse me, did you even BOTHER to read the post. ... there is not way yo
compare a user interface to a configuration database so I have no
idea WHAT you are talking about comparing XWindow to the windows
registry. ... Go back and reread the post, or even the part you copied
above and think about it.>

I didn't want to offend you with my reply. I directed my question to
the crowd that compares the DOS or Unix command lines with the GUI
of Windows. I have reread the post, and that's what's wrong for me:

You write:
"If people were actually HAPPY with a command line based system then
UNIX would probably rule the day"

My interpretation:
MS Windows 'rules the day'. It is not the command line part of MS Windows
that 'rules the day', it is the GUI. So you compare the Unix command line
with that what 'rules the day'. In other words: you compare a command
line based system with the Windows GUI.

Why did I use the Windows registry as an example? To configure a unixlike
system as e.g. Linux, you can use the menudriven YaST or you have to do it
with very cryptic configuration files or command line tasks. I used the
MS Windows registry because the crowd is used to compare those cryptic
alternatives with the Windows Control Panel. That's what's wrong for me.
If you reread all the posts about this issue, including the ongoings,
people go forward to compare GUI (MS Windows Control Panel e.g. is part
of the GUI) with command lines. They do _NOT_ compare cryptic
command lines with cryptic MS Windows registries.

Result: MS brainwash is effective even for LX users ...

(of course, as you wrote in your reply, you understand the difference
between command line and GUI. But it's the language we are used to that
does the brainwash)


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> In a message dated 6/28/99 5:57:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@ftel.net
> writes:
>
> > Yes, I agree. But in truth, the masses are much dumber than
> >  the group here and color is a nice attractive point.
>
> AND THEN Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> Avi,  I don't believe that these things are actually "selling,"  except as
> scattered impulse buys. <snip>

I own a 620lx because they came out when I had money
from a bonus burning a hole in my pocket.  I didn't do
any real research before purchasing.

The biggest disappointments are:

1)  A desktop is needed to install software.

2)  The synchronization software won't release the
serial port half the time until I manually adjust
several settings.

3)  I had to buy/install Win98 upgrade to run the sync
software on my win3.11 desktop.

4)  Not only is the unit itself a little larger than I
would like, but also the adapter is large and
cumbersome.  Short battery life means I have to bring
the adapter along most of the time.

5)  Files need to be sync'd on desktop to be
compatible with desktop software or for sharing with
others.  (I understand the current version of WinCE
does allow saving files in standard formats.)


I am sure I am not the only one who owns one of these
but uses their 200lx for real work.


Kat
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Hi,

Some time ago I used a program to set + keep the graphics screen
inversed (like with pressing On+/), which was handy for some
games. Now I need this program again but do not recall what it
was called.
Searched SUPER for "inverse" and "invert" but without success.

Can you help me?

TIA
Reinhard

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Gladly.  askSAM 5.1 and InfoSelect 2 (which was descended from Tornado Notes)
are freeform textbases in which you can give random information as little or
as much structure as you wish by embedding tags in your text to stand for
fields.  You can use these tools to organize or not to organize whatever.
The "SAM" in askSAM, BTW, stands for nothing more than a "sequential access
method" of searching the database, which is basically what InfoSelect does as
well. The data put into these programs is not indexed, except that askSAM
does give you the option to index on only one of your defined fields, which
you choose.  Limitations: an askSAM textbase can be as large as your disk.
askSAM's default mode is that a screenful of text, about 1600 characters,
equals one record in the database.  You can opt out of the "record" paradigm
and choose to treat all of the data in your file as one document, however
this creates problems later on when you are searching for and trying to
manipulate discrete items of information.  InfoSelect can be run either as a
TSR or a standalone program.  As a TSR, InfoSelect notes must reside in
memory, and databases are more limited in size, although they can be swapped
out to expanded memory or a disk swapfile while you work in another
application. The TSR takes only about 10K when you do this.   As a non-TSR,
databases can be much larger.

You search an askSAM database by contructing queries (Boolean operators are
supported), and these can be as simple or complex as your imagination will
allow.  Queries longer than 80 characters, however, must be stored as
"programs" and then run against the database.  askSAM has a highly eccentric
macro programming language that can take some time to learn.  You will have
to learn it if you want to see your search results as anything other than
individual records.  For example, to output tabular information, you must
write a routine that instructs the program how you want it to appear.  I have
learned how to do this and even constructed a few menued hypertext
applications in askSAM, but each time I tackle one of these projects, I have
had to go back and review the damned arcane syntax.  Very frustrating.
InfoSelect has no macros.  You search by invoking a command and typing the
characters you wish to match.  You can create a subset of the search results
and work with those.  I use InfoSelect often, primarily to start a new note
every time the telephone rings.  When I am finished taking notes on the
conversation, I drop them into an Agenda database.

Lotus Agenda is also a textbase, which some regard as an early implementation
of hypertext.  You can store random information in Agenda, but eventually it
requires that you impose some structure on it to make it useful.  This
structure consists of three forms: items (discrete bits of text no longer
than 350 characters), categories, which you attach to the items in order to
classify them, and notes, which are longer texts that you attach to items.  A
note that is physically a part of the database can be up to 10Kb long.
Longer notes can be attached to items as external textfiles; they can be
searched but they cannot be edited within the program.  As your database
grows, a natural language parser in Agenda will scan your items and notes and
attach them to appropriate categories.  It will even translate complex
English date expressions into the actual dates, which after all these years
continues to tickle me.  You can create your own text-matching rules to
govern how this is done, or you can turn off the feature altogether.  Items
can be organized into separate "views" or tables, up to approximately 20 for
any individual database, which can grow to 3Mb in size.  On the palmtop, as
your database grows, the operations of the program will slow down
considerably.  Turning off the text-matching feature, at least temporarily,
will help.  Limiting the number of views in your file will help even more,
since view structures take up memory.

Agenda has a very robust macro language that closely resembles Lotus 1-2-3's.
 The program's main disadvantage lies in how to get information into it
without keyboarding it in.  This often requires writing a "definition file"
to instruct the TXT2STF utility program how to transform the external text
into a structured format that Agenda can read.  This is fairly difficult to
all except those with some programming knowledge and experience.  I love
Lotus Agenda and have used it for years as a chronological record-keeper and
research organizer.  I do not enjoy tackling "def" files.

Inmagic Plus started out on the DEC VAX platform and was ported to DOS
microcomputers in the mid-80s as a tool for librarians and lawyers, but it
has more general application to anyone who works with textual information.
This program used to sell for over $1000, but it is now available as freeware
at
http://www.inmagic.com.

Inmagic combines a fielded structure with fully indexed search-and-retrieval
for information in any field of its variable-length records.  You can have
one or as many fields as you like, and (unlike most flatfile or relational
databases) you can have more than one entry for the same field in the same
record.  The size of your database is limited only by disk space.  You begin
working in Inmagic by defining the structure of your database.  Then, you tag
your textual information to tell the program where the records are separated
and which field in a record each piece belongs to (this is most easily
performed in a word processor), then you import the text.  Inmagic does the
rest, building its index and organizing your records into a default sort
order, which you may change.  You may edit the records within Inmagic and
then re-index the database, but the editing capabilities are rudimentary.  I
prefer simply exporting a database to a textfile and editing that.  You may
choose between either a menued or a command line interface; in either case a
full-featured Boolean search query language is available, and it is fairly
easy and straightforward to master.  You can sort your search results on
multiple keys.  You can save your queries for future use.  You can create
attractive custom reports using the program's report generating facility.
Since Inmagic was written for the 640Kb generation of PCs, and does not use
expanded or extended memory, it works quite well on the palmtop.  I use it
mainly to store information that is unlikely to change once it has been
entered, but which I may need to retrieve in a hurry.  I prefer Inmagic to
askSAM because of its speed and ease of use, also because of its stronger
security features (there are multiple levels of password protection).  Also,
because Inmagic has a companion search-only engine, SearchMagic (also free),
I can create databases that other people may use but not modify.

You will prefer whichever program fits your individual needs and style of
working, but the last point is this:  Except for askSAM, which is now
available for Windows, and Inmagic's successor program, DBTextworks for
Windows, which is priced almost as astronomically as its predecessor was,
there is nothing like these programs available for Windows or WinCE.  (IMHO,
the Windows version of InfoSelect does not match the TSR's convenience.)  And
to know that they all run on the HP 200LX palmtop, giving you access to
whatever personal information you require, wherever you happen to be, is very
comforting to me.  I have used all of them in that context for both business
or personal purposes, and I would not trade that portable power for a WinCE
machine unless and until it can offer matching capabilities.  If that makes
me and my palmtop obsolete, hurrah!

-roger-

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<Maybe Mack could be more specific, I haven't taken mine apart to see
the specific chips and types.>

Perhaps the pictures on http://www.goeldi.com/lx/ could be informative?

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Avi,

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Maybe I missed this topic earlier, but I just got a new PCMCIA type II
"Clik!" 40
meg drive for my laptop (the one that's a complete drive on the PC Card) and
was wondering
if there's any chance of getting this to work on the 200?  Or should I not
even bother
trying ...

Thanks!

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Okay, please don't slay me here for bringing this up, but I've got 2 Windows
CE
machines, an HP 320LX and a Casio E-11, that I no longer am evaluating and I
am happily
returning to the 200LX full-time.  Anyone know someone (off this list,
obviously!) who
might want to buy one of these?  Thought I'd give it a first try here before
posting
on comp.sys.handhelds ...

thanks!

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TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders wrote:
> Sorry to say but the only native user interface that any unix I have
> ever seen has is a command line based interface. You can ADD a shell
> that implements a graphical user interface, call XWindows, but that
> is NOT part of unix.

Yes, this is exactly the same as with Windows95 (replace "UNIX" with
"DOS" and "XWindows" with "Windows95" in your above statement).

> To be strictly technical unix itself DOES NOT
> have any user interface, it requires an added on SHELL program to
> implement a command line interface for user interaction.

Correct. And that shell may be a command line thing or a GUI. It is
"independent" of the OS, even though it obviously needs to be bundled
with the OS because otherwise you cannot use the OS.

> As far as
> calling it serial port based that has nothing to do with the user
> interface whatsoever.

I did not mean to say that. I wanted to say that the *attribute*
"command line based" does not make sense. As little sense as "serial
port based" would make.

> Adding XWindows to a unix system does not change
> the fact that UNIX is a command line based system

??? Now I don't understand anymore. Above you correctly said that it
does not make sense to say UNIX is "command line based" because it is
not UNIX, but a SHELL that is command line based (and there are also
GUI shells!) and now you say again that UNIX is "command line based"???

Andreas

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Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:20:56 +0100 (BST)

04h32m14s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:48:42 -0700 (CST), Roger Feinman wrote:

> I apologize but that message escaped from mailbox before I had the chance to
> finish it.  The URL is:
>
> http://www.notabene.com

If you buy NB4.5a for DOS from Notabene then minimum purchase price is
in about $250-$300. This for the "Scholars' Workstation".

In case folk rush off and buy it<G> it would be real handy if you can
give some specific tips on how you set it up to run on the palmtop.

In my limited experience of it I could not really recommend it for use
on the palmtop at this stage.

Do you print from the palmtop using it?

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Dan Sommer wrote:
>
> What is the name of the IR driver you obtained from the super site?

I don't recall the zip file name but the description has
jeteyes in it.
It has a driver that is loaded in config.sys files include
irjeteye.sys 12-22-94 12:34p 35,200
200lx.txt    08-02-98  9:49a    371
jethelp.txt  12-23-94 10:04a  3,292
jetutil.exe  02-25-94  6:53a  8,190
readme.txt   7-17-95   3:56p  7,922

I have to run the following
serctl  /i
mode lpt1:=com1:




> Are you able to print from DOS with the drivers directly to the HP2100
> Laserjet?
Yes, i can print from all my DOS apps and with Wp51 I can
even get the special WordPerfect character sets.

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Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:55:47 +0100 (BST)

04h07m05s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:48:42 -0700 (CST), Roger Feinman wrote:

> The basic wordprocessor fits on a standard 4Mb LX with plenty of room to
> spare.

Exactly how muc room to spare? Under 1MB?

> The full distribution package includes disk-eating extras,

Do you have all these installed?

How does underline mode show on your palmtop screen? I must have the
wrong printer file installed or something. Any tips on precisely how to
set up NB4.5a to run on a palmtop gratefully received!

Even with XyWrite III+ (the basic editor is under 200K BTW) I had to resort
to little tricks in the B-W.PRN file to make the screen usable.

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05h45m05s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:02:40 -0700 (CST), Ian Butler wrote:

> The only reason I'm not shutting up about this is that I can't write a
> better program (because I don't know C, not because I'm not capable of
> writing programs of that magnitude (because I have)), but I can help.

How do you mean help?

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And you can get it from:

http://cameron.hplx.net  (alias)
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html
ftp://members.aol.com/freewhL44/

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Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:36:08 +0100 (BST)

04h02m19s ago ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:33:49 -0700 (CST), Roger Feinman wrote:

> I don't know that they have made any decision to discontinue the DOS product,
> and it is still sold and supported.

Are you on the notabene e-mail list?

> Remember, they market to an audience
> that doesn't necessarily need to have the latest and greatest hardware, and
> there may stilll be an interest in a package that runs on any IBM-compatible.

The e-mail list is all about the win version.

> I haven't encountered the problem you mention.

Try lesson 3 in the tutorial. Shift+F1. Press ENTER to view the current
directory. The tutorial says

"You will now see a list of the files this directory contains. You will
also see, to the right, a narrow box, containing menu options"

I do not see the narrow box to the right, on the palmtop.

> Naturally, if you are working
> with multiple large documents at once,  you are eventually going to come up
> against the limits in the palmtop's 640Kb memory address space.

I had no documents loaded at all.

> What I have encountered is that, when you're not using the menus, some of the
> combination keystroke commands are difficult to perform on the palmtop's
> keyboard, but there are usually substitutes and workarounds for these, in the
> same manner that other programs have special combinations for laptop
> keyboards.

Perhaps you could publish a list of tips for HP Palmtop users Roger?
That would be very useful. I did not find the laptop tips of use on the
palmtop keyboard.

XyWrite III + is tiny by comparison.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:37:31 GMT
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Hi friends,

> One of the last great DOS wordprocessors is still being sold and supported by
> its originators, and it runs on the 200LX palmtop.  I refer to Nota Bene,
> which has been around since 1983.  NB version 4.5a is based on the old

Is this something like TeX?

GTX
daniel

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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
Outlook's Contacts. The latest version now allows you to synchronize
the palmtop's file with an Outlook folder.

=46rom the ReadMe.txt file:

* New - synchronize a palmtop file with an Outlook folder. Both will
  then have exactly the same set of data.
 =20
* Bug fix - in versions before 2.0, the second address line of an
  Outlook contact would lose its last character when going to the LX.
  This has been fixed.
 =20
* Bug fix - in version 1.90, the LX file would be written in such a
  way that changes and additions could not then be read out of it.
  Please see "Known Problems" in the help file to find out how to fix
  your LX file.

* Support of any format PDB or GDB palmtop file.

* Support of Outlook 97, 98, and (I assume) 2000.

* Select sub-folders of the main Outlook Contacts folder. You can
  select multiple folders for export by holding the CTRL key while
  clicking them.

* Map fields between Outlook and the LX however you like.

* Multiple Outlook fields can be assigned to each LX field, so in
  case an Outlook field is blank, it will go to a second or third
  to find data to put in the LX field.

* You can separate Outlook's multi-line street address fields into
  their first, second, or third lines and assign them separately to
  LX fields.

* Field mapping is stored for each different palmtop file you use,
  so you can have several different ones and it will remember the
  mapping for each. This info is stored in the same directory as
  the LX file, using the palmtop file name, except with a .MAP
  file extension.

* If you pass a palmtop file name on the command line, that palmtop
  file, along with all its mapping info, will be loaded when it
  starts.

* If you also pass the string "/run" after the file name, then the
  conversion process is started automatically.

* Extended characters are converted correctly (both directions as
  of version 1.90).

* Uses a Windows DLL, courtesy of Mack Baggette, to do the LX
  importing and exporting, so the memory limitations of previous
  versions (to limit the number of contacts you can convert)
  don't apply.


--=20
Curtis Cameron
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 01:22:09 EDT
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I don't know for sure where HP came up with the term 'pens'. When I
started servicing Designjet plotters I questioned calling the ink
cartridges 'pens'. The folks at San Diego Division just  pointed to the
fact that the previous generation of plotters actually used pens.

dmp

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:38:16 -0700 Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
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>a =
>black
>kh> >pen OR a 3-color pen.
>kh>
>kh> Deskjet that uses a *pen*?
>
>Down on the manufacturing floor we refer to the inkjet
>cartriges as pens, dunno why, probably because they lay
>down ink and pen is shorter.
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>Paul
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Message text written by INTERNET:th@CSI.COM
>Do you use ver 4.5a on your palmtop? It does run
but I found some menus would not come up - especially when one menu is
in a second window.<

When I went to the NB site I found that NB4.5 needs a 386 CPU or better a=
nd
benefits greatly from XMS memory.
I also found that for first-time buyers the cost is $368.00.  I think I'l=
l
stick with what I have, PalEdit and VDE (and Memo).

.ed.

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Message text written by INTERNET:dcollins@TRENDX.COM
>I couldn't get !*datefield to work.
<

Try !*date field name  where date field name is the name of the date fiel=
d.

and what's the 3D doing in the time field code? That doesn't belong there=
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:58:44 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: Death from natural causes?


> Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I have just
> received a new unit from Thaddeus and would like to ensure that it lasts
as
> long as possible ..........

Sorry, I meant that death by hinge crack was preventable (refer to the old
posts about brass plates to reinforce the crack, and one post about fixing
it from the inside so it would not show on the outside).  However, I recall
a discussion on the old list where some people claimed to have found a way
to prevent the crack itself by messing with the inside of the hinge
(something about the pins, I think).  However, there was no general
consensus on this issue at the time. That is all I recall at this time,
sorry,

Domingo

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:31:22 +0800
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Hinge Crack
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Check out
<http://www.hplx.net/hardware.hinge.html>http://www.hplx.net/hardware.hinge.
html

At 12:39 AM 30-06-1999 Wednesday -0300, LP wrote:
>What is the hinge crack?
>
>Sorry, but I dont know
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>

>
>> Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I have just
>> received a new unit from Thaddeus and would like to ensure that it lasts
>as
>> long as possible ..........
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Anand
>>
>> At 12:50 PM 29-06-1999 Tuesday -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and that is
>> >preventable.
>> >
>> >I look forward to your comments.
>> >
>> >Domingo
>>
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Check out&nbsp;
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</a><br>
<br>
At 12:39 AM 30-06-1999 Wednesday -0300, LP wrote:<br>
&gt;What is the hinge crack?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Sorry, but I dont know<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt;From: Anand Rao &lt;slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET&gt;<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I
have just<br>
&gt;&gt; received a new unit from Thaddeus and would like to ensure that
it lasts<br>
&gt;as<br>
&gt;&gt; long as possible ..........<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; TIA<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Anand<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; At 12:50 PM 29-06-1999 Tuesday -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and
that is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;preventable.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;I look forward to your comments.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;Domingo<br>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:35:20 EDT
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For those on the list, and any domestic palmtoppers who require additional
e-mail support, I received word today from Martin Paul, who runs
www.palmtop.com, that, notwithstanding the impending discontinuation of the
HP 200LX,  he expects to continue his cc:Mail service to palmtop users (as
individuals, not as businesses) for years to come.  Mr. Paul is fortunate in
that his e-mail services to businesses are self-sustaining, and the palmtop
service simply piggy-backs on the same internet gateway.  He does request a
$60 one-time permanent subscription fee for establshing an individual e-mail
account.  Considering the ease and convenience of being able to use the
built-in cc:Mail Mobile app without loading any additional software, and the
fact that it works flawlessly, this seems very well worthwhile, even for
occasional use.  Although his operation is a local dial-up, any LD phone
charges for connecting should prove minimal.  And if you are calling from
someone else's phone, they should prove non-existent <ggg>.

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What is the hinge crack?

Sorry, but I dont know

----- Original Message -----
From: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Death from natural causes?


> Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I have just
> received a new unit from Thaddeus and would like to ensure that it lasts
as
> long as possible ..........
>
> TIA
>
> Anand
>
> At 12:50 PM 29-06-1999 Tuesday -0400, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:
>
> >
> >The only natural death I know of is the hinge crack, and that is
> >preventable.
> >
> >I look forward to your comments.
> >
> >Domingo
>
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: HV - once again...


> This is true.  But if you have, say, an 8M machine like I do (thanks Mack,
> David), 57K is ludicrously undersized.  I'd rather have a 600K executable
> that uses EMS so that it can run and adds a great deal of browsing support
> not otherwise available.  There is absolutely no reason not to have real,
> honest-to-goodness browsing power available for these larger machines.

HP is jumping out of the HPLX bandwagon.  IMHO this is a very good rea$on
for programmers to do the same.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Peter W. Borders <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Marketing


> I can just see it now, a hot pink 200lx called the Barbie Date book.
> Girls can use the PDA functions just like DAD has. Of course I don't
> know if I would want a hot pink 200lx. :-)

When I read this, I ran to my in-house Barbie experts to confirm my
recollections (my two Barbie-crazed preteen daughters), and they assured me
that, indeed, my recollections are correct, there *is* a pink Barbie Date
book. Don't know the exact name, but it is not called "Barbie's HPLX" nor
"Barbie's Wince"

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:08:54 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Speaking of word processors, here is a letter I sent of to a MS representative in
Denver a while back. His response is below my letter. Perhaps some research,
footwork and time could make such a thing happen. We have moldy oldies in music,
etc. Why not CDROM's of the cream of the crop DOS programs. (I'm not looking to
turn this into a MS bashing contest).

Could be like the demise of the HP200LX, not enough demand and $$$ to make it
happen. Just a thought to share anyhow.

Sorry for the lengthy text. Thought it might get some wheels turning. Not that
DOS is the best solution, but it was the workhorse for a lot of us, less waste of
time.
----------
Subject:
        Microsoft CDROM Classics
   Date:
        Tue, 25 May 1999 07:20:16 -0600
   From:
        "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@union-tel.com>
     To:
        Matt Eschbach <matte@MICROSOFT.com>


Matt,

I thought I would ask you first to see if you had any suggestions. I have been
using and still use MSDOS based applications for about 15 years, many of them
Microsoft.

I use daily an HP200LX palmtop. If you don't know what an HP200LX is, it is
essentially an IBM PC XT that you can put in your pocket. Graphics are CGA.
Ths OS is MSDOS 5.00. Many built in applications including Lotus 123 v2.4.
Runs about 20 hours on two AA's.

 HP as produced this line of machines since 1991. To my knowledge, they have
no intentions of removing it from production. I think sales is up with their
Windows CE machines although not advertised much anymore. I am on an email
list of several hundred similar users. Many users use it on the internet.
There are even a couple used for an internet servers!

Here is my proposal -- that Microsoft would produce a CDROM entitled
"Microsoft MSDOS Classics". The purpose:

  1. Historical
  2. A compendium for DOS diehards
  3. A source of hard to get professional programs

It would include:

  1. All discontinued MSDOS operating systems. 1.0 to 5.0
  2. All discontinued DOS based programming products.
  3. All discontinued DOS based productive applications.
  4. All discontinued DOS based games, especially, Flight Simulator.
  5. All discontinued Windows 1.0 - 3.0

Price? Very reasonable. Manuals? MS Word format (the originals used to produce
the original manuals updated in a common format, i.e., Word 4.0/5.0/6.0).

Microsoft does not stand to make a killing on this product. The market would
be a low volume steady demand. Many of use have to scrounge in used computer
stores and dumpsters to find these old classics. I use Word 4.0 on my HP200LX.
Recently, I purchased Flight Sim 98 -- It is hard not to spend hours on it. To
help learning, I decided to put my old Flight Sim 3.0 on my HP200LX. Would be
nice if these programs where available again for anyone to purchase.

Sincerely,

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY
----------
Hi Bob -

Thank you for the email, and I'm sorry for the delay in my response.

Your idea is a good one and does make sense.

I have forwarded your email below to mswish@microsoft.com.  Hopefully
they'll be able to put together a product meeting your needs.  Something
like revenge of DOS.

Thanks again for the input.

Matt
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 03:08:46 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I just received my Aegis infrared link from Mitch and the S.U.P.E.R. store
...
> Just plug it in, set the comport and baud rate to 57600 and you are set to
> transfer with both TransFile and Filer.  It even includes a DB9F/DB9M cable.

Can it be used with the Cpack/LapLink transfer code?  Instead of
the serial cable I now use?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:00:19 -0400
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Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> I've noticed, when charging my 200LX battery, that the voltage of the
> backup battery also seems to increase during the charging period.
> I see this in the PowerMon display.
> Am I dreaming, or does the backup battery really get boosted during
> charging?

The palmtop uses an 8-bit Analog to Digitial Converter with a
5 volt reference, I believe.  So, the smallest voltage
difference it can measure is 5 volts/255 or 0.02 volts.  So,
you should not put so much stock into the two decimal places
the battery voltages are giving.

The palmtop does NOT make any attempt to recharge the backup
battery


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:39:32 -0400
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We have just reached a `list-hold' limit of 100 posts again.

I, for one, do not really want to deal with much more than 100 posts
on this list in a day. Nice as the 200 may be, it actually isn't
worth it to me.

I realize that I have contributed to this problem by posting several
messages today. While I cannot `take the pledge' and promise that it
will never happen again, I _do_ promise to limit my postings in the
future, and not just `write whatever vague and useless thought' happens
to be passing thru my mind at the moment I am reading HPLX.

When I see one poster with nearly two dozen posts between 5pm and
9pm, I feel I _can_ suggest that he is telling me much more about his
passing ideas than I, for one, want to know.

I suggest that others consider taking my `pledge'. I don't know if there
is a corresponding `net abuse' program, but perhaps some of us could
use it.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:21:19 +0000
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> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:
>
> > No, it's just the most flexible.  Win9x is OK, and fairly easy to use,
> > but has tremendous stability and usability problems.  DOS is stable
> > and only requires one the type out the command and run the program.
> > Simple.
>
> Not only that, but it's well-suited for the handheld form factor.  DOS is
> fairly small and quick, compared to a GUI.

Well, not only do I want to keep using the dos tools I'm comfortable
with (List, TSE, Qfiler, zip, etc (which I still stubbornly use under
Win95)) but some special HP200 tools (accis, Post and others (which I
also continue to use under Win95).  And I really don't want to give up
the PIM's, well, probably the appt application, solver and calc, pocket
quicken (while it took a long time to adopt) and the various db's
including phone.

But I believe like others, that HP will, even if it has not yet, pull
the plug on the hp200.

Frankly, instead of the anemic win-ce, I'd really prefer win95 on that
size platform.  But it seems that battery power and capacity to run such
an unweildly operating system is not there.

Altho, I do keep reading that even MS does not know if win-ce is the
future of yet another small/tight (MS do that???) NT.

Well, shall see.

In the mean time, I will save my pennies and add a spare 200 to my
drawer of goodies.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:07:15 -0400
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If you are referring to the `Damark' that traded for over $30/share
in 1994 and closed today a bit over $8 while the market has gone from
under 4000 to over 10000 over the same period, I'm not sure it proves
your point.

Maybe another example would illustrate your point better?

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
>   Creative marketing works miracles every day.  Just pick up a Damark
> catalog and take a look through it for undeniable proof. There is no
> doubt that obsolete wigits are purchased every day in quantities for
> pennies and then creatively marketed for dollars as solutions to
> completely different problems.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:50:37 -0500
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:22:20 +0800, Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> =
wrote:

> Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I have =
just
> received a new unit from Thaddeus and would like to ensure that it =
lasts as
> long as possible ..........

Take the unit to your priest or similar religious leader and have them =
bless
it <g>. Along with this, try to open the screen evenly and not just =
lifting
on the right side.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:48:48 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> I don't recall the zip file name but the description has
> jeteyes in it.
>
> I have to run the following
> serctl  /i
> mode lpt1:=com1:
>
> Yes, i can print from all my DOS apps and with Wp51 I can
> even get the special WordPerfect character sets.


This same setup works for me with a Citizen PN60i pocket
printer.  Pretty cool to be able to print out a document
(or transparency) from equipment in my briefcase while on
the road.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:57:05 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Someone was looking for a SCSI cable for an Omnibook 800. Check this out --
F1182A for $1.99. Not many left.


http://www.jandr.com/oasis/bin/objectbuilder.dll?MAX_SEQ_NUM=1&EXEC_SEQ_1=OB_RPC%2cJANDR_GetDisplayInfo_USR%2c@remote_user%2c@Product_Id%2c@Mode%2c+%2c+%2c+%2cd%3a/http/oasis/displays/primary/primary.tem%2cd%3a/http/error.tem&Mode=0&Product_Id=21984.0&SQL_TYPE_Product_Id=SQLNUMERIC&SQL_TYPE_Mode=SQLINT4

If my long link does not work, go to

http://www.jandr.com/

and search for omnibook.

Bob Meyer
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:04:01 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> From: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
>
> > Domingo, I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack?
>
> Sorry, I meant that death by hinge crack was preventable (refer to the old
> posts about brass plates to reinforce the crack, and one post about fixing
> it from the inside so it would not show on the outside).  However, I recall
> a discussion on the old list where some people claimed to have found a way
> to prevent the crack itself by messing with the inside of the hinge
> (something about the pins, I think).

There has been some discussion about lubricating the hinges if
they are tight.  The idea is that this will reduce stress on the
case with the hope of preventing, or delaying, a crack.  I'm
including a repost of my part of that discussion.

Ted


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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:07:26 -0500
From: Theodore Heise <theise@netins.net>
Subject:      Re: Hinge too tight

A Meshar writes:
>
> So the teflon lubricant is some sory of oil? How about
> using just plain fine machine oil? I imagine you'd want to
> use just a few molecules at a time, easier to add them than
> to take them out :) ...
>
> I have a question about the oil, however: Won't it tend to
> gum up with tiny particles of debris and other flotsam?
> This may cause either loosening or tightening, I am not
> sure.

I went through this situation about a year ago.  My 200X was
new and the hinge was pretty stiff.  I didn't see any sign of
the crack, but it was a hot topic at the time and I was
worried.

I took off the caps and added a drop of light machine oil
at each hinge.  I worked it around for a while and it didn't
seem to help so I added another drop.  I worked the hinges
again for a while and suddenly the joints got very loose.
The lid would not stay in place after that.

My remedy for the loose hinges was to take a wash bottle
of absolute ethanol and rinse each hinge, then open and
close several times.  I repeated this process a few times
and ended up with just the right amount of tension.  My
thinking was that the ethanol would rinse off the excess
oil and then evaporate.  I don't know if that is what actually
happened, but it seemed to work.


Ted

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:14:33 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

> AFAIK - No one is making productive use of quill pens today.  Lots of

I'd like to understand this discussion here, so please explain: What's
a quill pen?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:29:45 -0700
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Ted Heise wrote:

> I took off the caps and added a drop of light machine oil at each
> hinge.  I worked it around for a while and it didn't seem to help so I
> added another drop.  I worked the hinges again for a while and
> suddenly the joints got very loose. The lid would not stay in place
> after that.

A word of warning here-- adding a drop of oil to the left hinge could be
trouble.  There is no hinge in that side, only a little space through
which the screen ribbon cable passes.  Putting oil in it will only goo it
up, and won't help loosen or tighten the hinge.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:03:29 +0200
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On http://linuxtoday.com/stories/7242.html I found the following news:

VNUnet: Digging up old GEM resurrects hopes for a
 thin-client operating system
   Jun 29th, 20:47:11

 "Caldera has released the source code to the late Digital Research's GEM under
the GNU Public License. ... In the mid-1980s, it was
 Windows' most serious competitor: distinctly Macintosh-like, blindingly fast,
and it ran on DOS. It was a high-quality GUI when Windows
 was both unusable and unsellable."

 "...there's room at the bottom, as nanotechnology advocate K Eric Drexler
observed. DOS is all grown up today; for instance, DR-DOS
 supports integrated networking, 32-bit protect-mode operation, multitasking and
multithreading.

 GEM adds windowing, a GUI, a CAPI and programmers' toolkits for C and
TurboPascal. ... It can support multitasking. ... This is all you
 need for a serviceable free thin-client OS. It would be remotely manageable by
editing a few text files, either fetched from a hidden local
 share or directly through a Telnet link."

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:16:40 +0000
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> Maybe I missed this topic earlier, but I just got a new PCMCIA type II
> "Clik!" 40 meg drive

I believe it requires too much power but might work with that slot
extender that does provide external power.

But if you and the List do not mind:  Care to give us a review of this
device.  I've been reading about it and am very curious about a REAL
USER report.

Thanks

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:16:51 +0000
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> Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
> of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
> Outlook's Contacts. The latest version now allows you to synchronize
> the palmtop's file with an Outlook folder.


Curtis, maybe you should send this to someone at HP.  This would make
the HP200 much more "au current" if syncing with Outlook as easier.

And thanks for the games which take me thru some meetings and lunches!
(G)

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:15:46 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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I just received the following email from Sandisk tech support:

"SanDisk is currently testing the HP200 LX with the 440 MB FlashDisk.  It
seems that the 200LX has a capacity maximum.  SanDisk has not been able to
use the 200 with a 440MB.  I will contact you when the test is complete and
let you know what the maximum capacity for the 200LX is.  SanDisk has
confirmed that up to 220MB is compatible with the 200LX."

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:23:08 -0400
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Well, it better have it's own power power source, don't want to
drain the 200LXs batteries! Could it use the Infrared port? Even
better, it could optically read the screen and transcribe *without*
taking up a prescious port... ANd if it could run on cold Pizza
and caffinated soda, we could really be on to something...

;¬)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:43 AM
Subject: ÝFluff¨ Re: HP's and Fountain Pens


>We need a fountain pen serial port attachment development effort !
>
>- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:16:07 -0400
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My previous employer (Telcom software, C++, Oracle, etc.) charged
$275/hr, and that was simply COST. That was the *fully loaded* cost
of a developer-hour (cost of phone, comp. sys, health care, building,
pension, boss, boss's boss, etc.).

When all costs are considered, time is *not* cheap.

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: HV vs. OPERA


>>
>> As an aside, anyone that wants to pay me more than $100 an hour to
>> write assembly please contact me. :-)
>>
>
>To add my $0.02 into this discussion.... my company charges $125 per hour
>for Windows (including CE) development work and we've got more work than
>people.
>
>------------
>
>As far as writing software for profit, I'm afraid there just aren't enough
>warm bodies buying software to make DOS programming a money making
>proposition any more. Its almost to the point where its custom programming.
>
>I personally only use the built-in software. But those who use third party
>stuff should thank their lucky stars that the volunteer software authors
can
>afford to spend the time on their behalf. (hey Stephan! are you into wife,
>kids, mortgage yet?)
>
>Maybe you could take up a collection and see how much $$ you can get
>together from people to buy the services of someone to create a specific
>feature for you. Andreas could probably give reasonable estimates of the
>costs of each of the features requested. Not enough money raised, feature
>not added. I don't blame him in the least for wanting to keep his effort in
>line with the potential rewards.
>
>rick
>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:03:36 -0500
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Isn't there a version of Gem that will run on the LX? If so, where can I =
get
a copy?

Jeff

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> I think it is great that someone likes to write DOS programs and I
> applaud their fine work. I just questioned that statement that it was
> worth $50.000. I defy anyone to find a company that would pay them
> $50.000 to write a DOS program in assembler today.
>

Now that's the whole point, isn't it. Its simply not worth the time and
effort required to do it. Spend that same amount of time writing in assembly
for a MIPS processor inside a cell phone, and you can get more for your
time.

Maybe if you convinced the cell phone manufacturers to use DOS as the OS in
their new series of embedded organizer/phone hybrids.... unfortunately, I
think all the majors have picked their OS partners already.

rick

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:32:31 +0800
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"Barbie's Wince" - is this what happened when she saw Ken flaunting his new
M$ toy? This Barbie thing has more sense that what is normally attributed
to her :)

At 10:45 AM 30-06-99 Wednesday , Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

>When I read this, I ran to my in-house Barbie experts to confirm my
>recollections (my two Barbie-crazed preteen daughters), and they assured me
>that, indeed, my recollections are correct, there *is* a pink Barbie Date
>book. Don't know the exact name, but it is not called "Barbie's HPLX" nor
>"Barbie's Wince"
>
>Domingo
>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:51:25 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Maybe it would be worth someone's while to buy up the top part of the shell
before HP retires the injection moulds permanently.  I for one would buy
one as an insurance spare if available at a reasonable price.

At 09:50 AM 30-06-99 Wednesday , Jeff Johns wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:22:20 +0800, Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:
>
>Take the unit to your priest or similar religious leader and have them bless
>it <g>. Along with this, try to open the screen evenly and not just lifting
>on the right side.
>
>Jeff
>
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>           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
>           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:47:15 +0800
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I see a lot of mention of Outlook here. Now if someone had a client for
Domino on the 200LX I'm sure it would evince a lot of interest, specially
considering the no-holds-barred battle between Notes and Exchange.

My company uses cc:mail as the corporate email standard and is being
assiduously wooed by both the protagonists to change over to their
platforms. There could be several others in the same boat and a usable
client for Domino could be very interesting!

Anand.

At 10:16 PM 30-06-99 Wednesday , F. Kaufman wrote:
>> Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
>> of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
>> Outlook's Contacts. The latest version now allows you to synchronize
>> the palmtop's file with an Outlook folder.
>
>
>Curtis, maybe you should send this to someone at HP.  This would make
>the HP200 much more "au current" if syncing with Outlook as easier.
>
>And thanks for the games which take me thru some meetings and lunches!
>(G)
>
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No. it doesn't support any of the zoom modes at all. When
Screen Extender is runnning the zoom is disabled. Zoom works
fine in wp51 by itsef. However SE has its own list of fonts
and can be setup to toggle between various sizes.
Stephan Goeldi wrote:
>
> And: does it support all the 3 zoom modes of LX? I mean really support like
> a built-in app, not only 'virtual' screen.
>
>
>  > Screen extender?
> Improved fonts for Wp51 also show underlinering and such.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:26:24 +0000
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------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:          Self <mike>
To:            Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:       Re: Gem OS
Reply-to:      melancon@microgear.net
Date:          Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:24:57

Try:

http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Gem/index.html

I downloaded lots of this stuff, but never tried to get it running on my palmtop.




> Isn't there a version of Gem that will run on the LX? If so, where can I get
> a copy?
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:36:02 -0400
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              Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
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Just joined the list after pulling my 200lx out of 2 years of hibernation to
connect to my new GPS...  What's the status of the Palmtop with HP?  Did
anyone every get LINUX/ELKS stable and booting?

-Calvin

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> Maybe it would be worth someone's while to buy up the top part of the shell
> before HP retires the injection moulds permanently.  I for one would buy
> one as an insurance spare if available at a reasonable price.

Now that is a good idea.

HAL, you listening? (G)  You've got some friends over at HP, maybe you
can get them to unload some extras of whatever including the outer upper
shell.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:20:22 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Mike Melancon wrote:
>
> Try:
>
> http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Gem/index.html
>
> I downloaded lots of this stuff, but never tried to get it running on my palmtop.
>
>
> From:          Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
>
> > Isn't there a version of Gem that will run on the LX? If so, where can I get
> > a copy?
> >
> > Jeff


At one point I had GEM running on my 2x 32MB unit.  My goal
was to find a way to work on my palmtop with images created in
CorelDraw on my desktop.  Although CorelDraw will save images
in .gem format, I could not reach my goal, as the 200LX would
only pull in part of a file.  I expect this was due to memory
limitations.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:17:40 -0700
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I wouldn't call the process "flawless" (still can't get my MegaHertz modem
working with it), but it's indeed a great service and definitely welcome in this
day and age where the HPLX is a slowly dying breed!

Cheers!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:35 PM
Subject: cc:Mail on the Palmtop


> For those on the list, and any domestic palmtoppers who require additional
> e-mail support, I received word today from Martin Paul, who runs
> www.palmtop.com, that, notwithstanding the impending discontinuation of the
> HP 200LX,  he expects to continue his cc:Mail service to palmtop users (as
> individuals, not as businesses) for years to come.  Mr. Paul is fortunate in
> that his e-mail services to businesses are self-sustaining, and the palmtop
> service simply piggy-backs on the same internet gateway.  He does request a
> $60 one-time permanent subscription fee for establshing an individual e-mail
> account.  Considering the ease and convenience of being able to use the
> built-in cc:Mail Mobile app without loading any additional software, and the
> fact that it works flawlessly, this seems very well worthwhile, even for
> occasional use.  Although his operation is a local dial-up, any LD phone
> charges for connecting should prove minimal.  And if you are calling from
> someone else's phone, they should prove non-existent <ggg>.
>
> -roger-
>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Well, I guess this means we don't have to worry about the limitations of
CHS vs. LBA.  :(

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Some interest in the Gem GUI has been stirred up.  I did a search and found a download
site for Gem Artline.  This was a top of the line graphic design program - if you are
playing with Gem you will want to get this.


The site is at:

http://www.artline.de/EngMain/ENG_DNLD/eng_dnld.html

artline1e.zip looks like the one I bought years ago (Gem 3 app 309k)

You will also need  Gem 3 available at:

http://www.devili.iki.fi/cpm/gemworld.html


There is also a later version artline2e.zip which includes Gem 4 - it's 2933k and
probably not a good bet to run on the 200lx.





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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:24:50 -0500
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forward this line to listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu

SET HPLX-L INDEX


But please don't try and limit people's discussion because you find it
inconvenient.  If you have a problem, deal with it yourself by getting a better
email program or some other solution.  You should'nt preasure others to conform
to your expectations.

Don.


 -----Original Message-----
We have just reached a `list-hold' limit of 100 posts again.

I, for one, do not really want to deal with much more than 100 posts
on this list in a day. Nice as the 200 may be, it actually isn't
worth it to me.

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That is exactly what I did, but it was a no go.  I open subset/define/general
and then type in !*Date  (where date = the name of the field) but all records
are displayed.  Note: I do have records with a blank date field.

Don

 -----Original Message-----
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>I couldn't get !*datefield to work.


Try !*date field name  where date field name is the name of the date field.

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I would think that lifting on the left side would cause more strain to the
right side of the hinge.  Am I wrong?

Don.

 -----Original Message-----
Along with this, try to open the screen evenly and not just =
lifting
on the right side.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:28:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Treanor <treanor@camalott.com>
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Hi...need a little help.  I left my hp 200lx sitting under my car seat for
10 days and when I returned to use it ...nothing happened.  So I put in two
new AA batteries and still no response from the hp.  I'm figuring there is
no need replacing the backup battery if the two AA bateries are new (???).
Any Suggestions.

Stan

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:43:31 -0500
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:09:56 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> =
wrote:

> I would think that lifting on the left side would cause more strain to =
the
> right side of the hinge.  Am I wrong?

Nope, you are right <g>.... I guess I should not have had that last beer
before I wrote that!

Jeff

           ---- Jeff Johns W4JEF - Reserve Patrol Captain ----
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:24:50 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> =
wrote:

> But please don't try and limit people's discussion because you find it
> inconvenient.  If you have a problem, deal with it yourself by getting =
a better
> email program or some other solution.  You should'nt preasure others to =
conform
> to your expectations.

As an American I frequently invoke my 1st Admendment rights <g>. For =
those
of you in other countries, I'm sorry if that bothers you, but until Al =
makes
a rule of how many times we can post in a day, the sky's the limit or =
until
the listserv machine locks up <g>.

Jeff

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Curtis!

Great piece of software!!! I've been using it over and over again to keep my LX
in sync with Outlook! I have a question: I'm using Outlook Express to keep most
my addresses. In order to get it in LX format, I first have to export it (the
whole address book) to Outlook, remove all the addresses I don't want (I only
need a subset from the whole address book), and then use your program. Is there
a better way to do this? Any chance there will be an export/sync program for
Outlook Express?

Just checking!

Cheers!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:46 PM
Subject: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX Version 2.0: Synchronize


And you can get it from:

http://cameron.hplx.net  (alias)
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html
ftp://members.aol.com/freewhL44/

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:35:31 -0700
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> > ROFL ... I think most people know that I bite back,
> > unhesitatingly! :-) ... Andreas, OTOH, I am not sure...
>
> You know that I am vegetarian! ;-)

That's no excuse! Two horses I used to ride a lot were also
vegetarian, but they also liked to bite. :)

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> Avi, I would glady pay that $80.00 for HV Pro. <g>
>
> Want it in advance?

Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and
you stop posting your theories about HV. It takes me a lot
of time to download, read, and reply to such stuff, and the
usefulness is close to nil, to both of us.

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> One of the most informative posts I've ever read.  Thank you.

First, you are welcome.

Secondly, you guys are easy to please: Throw you a few
numbers, some conclusions, and a whole bunch of non-linear
things to think of and you guys start purring! Really... :-)

Seriously, I learned this from others before me, and am glad
to pass along the info.

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> Yes! Let Mr Butler do it! He is so amazingly intelligent and
> knows everything about other people's products better than
> they do themselves. He must be such a genious that I am sure
> he will rewrite HV in a day or two.

How about telling us what you really feel about Ian's critique
of your programming style? :-) You are holding back, aren't
you? :)

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:35:53 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: APEX Modems w/ 200LX
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Robert,

> I think someone has already offered this, but I would be happy to try
> out your modem, if you would like.  I too use the same modem, and it
> works fine with a landline connection, and has for me been a pain in the
> but with my StarTac Cell Phone, but it will work in a pinch.

There are two Apex modems. I believe both are Mobile Plus
Cellular ready. One works in the Palmtops one does not. The
one which does not is the less expensive one, and it is built
especially for Windows machines. It relies on much if the
functionality to be performed by Windows on the
desktop/notebook, rather than the modem itself.

Perhaps that is the source of troubles. Also, the modem does
not like fancy initialization strings - AT&F is basically what
will work (or ATZ).

I use like you, something that has the following on the front:

     Mobile Plus Cellular V.34
     Data/Fax Modem 28.8/14.4 kbps
     Tx-Cel
     A Smart Mdular Technologies Company
     Apex Data
     PC Card

On the back:

     Apex Data
     V.34 Cellular
     33,600/14,400 Data/Fax Modem
     Model No: 011-20641
     Complies with Fcc ..... etc...

I do not know what the Win Modem looks like.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:49:38 -0700
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and you stop
> posting your theories about HV. It takes me a lot of time to download,
> read, and reply to such stuff, and the usefulness is close to nil, to
> both of us.

Can I get in on this deal?  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:55:39 -0400
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I'm wondering if anyone on the list has used Artificial Intelligence
programs on the Palmtop.  AI seems to range from natural query language
programs like Q&A to development platforms like Lisp and Prolog.

In particular, I'm looking for a copy of the DOS version of PC-Therapist =
by
Joseph Weintraub, a winner of the Loebner prize for AI programs.

I've been meaning to order the software but waited too long. Joseph W. ma=
y
have died.  I can't contact him and KnowX.com no longer lists him as livi=
ng
at his former address. His email accounts are no longer in effect.  He
billed himself as the ai_guru and he was. I have some of his other progra=
ms
but wanted to try out the PC-Therapist program. =


.ed.ÝPTP¨ =

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:28:10 -0500
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From:         "John L. Stanley" <jlstanley@MEDIAONE.NET>
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Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <199906301356_MC2-7B6A-886F@compuserve.com>

  Well, his companies web site is still "alive" at:
        http://pages.prodigy.com/NY/jsw

  There are voice contact phone numbers at:
        http://pages.prodigy.com/NY/jsw/jsw2.html

  ... and an online order-form at:
        http://pages.prodigy.com/NY/jsw/jsw6.html

  That help any?  :¬)

---
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Software Development Consultant @ Dynasoft Systems


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Subject: Long shot


I'm wondering if anyone on the list has used Artificial Intelligence
programs on the Palmtop.  AI seems to range from natural query language
programs like Q&A to development platforms like Lisp and Prolog.

In particular, I'm looking for a copy of the DOS version of PC-Therapist by
Joseph Weintraub, a winner of the Loebner prize for AI programs.

I've been meaning to order the software but waited too long. Joseph W. may
have died.  I can't contact him and KnowX.com no longer lists him as living
at his former address. His email accounts are no longer in effect.  He
billed himself as the ai_guru and he was. I have some of his other programs
but wanted to try out the PC-Therapist program.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:43:26 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: TECH:  palm won't come on
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> Hi...need a little help.  I left my hp 200lx sitting under my car seat for
> 10 days and when I returned to use it ...nothing happened.  So I put in
two
> new AA batteries and still no response from the hp.  I'm figuring there is
> no need replacing the backup battery if the two AA bateries are new (???).
> Any Suggestions.

You still need to replace the backup battery.  The best thing to do is take
all batteries out (including backup battery) for a day, and put in fresh
ones.  This has brought back many a palmtop.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:44:14 -0700
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Avi,

For all the smilies in your posts, I'm not sure I get the humor. I feel sarcasm,
perhaps resentment, perhaps annoyment and more coming from you and Andreas, and
I think it's quite legitimate. I'm not sure I can imagine being grilled over and
over again and trying to tell people the same response in a zillion different
ways until I'm blue in the face and realize they don't get in no matter what.
But one thing I'm sure is that I probably would feel the same way you do.

Now let me make a statement:

You and Andreas ROCK!!! You've put zillions of hours into WWW/LX and other
software, turned it into a bit of cash, and in the process cut yourself a piece
of palm computing history! You're gurus in your own right -- much like many
people on this list -- and deserve much respect and admiration.

And when people bitch and moan about software, I don't really know for sure why
they do it, but when I do it, it's *never* because I want to ditch it... it's
because I really want to use it. And when I see a fantastic piece of software
like HV, maxed out and fragile, I want to find a way to -- somehow -- make it
grow further -- or rewrite it -- because I truly see value in the project.

Actually, having been a software maintenance enginner for as long as I remember,
I've always seen software as a growing entity. And when I hear that some piece
of software is "not maintainable" or "not upgradable", the death bell rings and
I get the feeling (and I have seen it repeatedly) that this piece of software's
demise is at hand.

So do you truly believe we're just here to make your life miserable or want to
grill you and actually be mean or hurtful? I sincerely hope it's not anyone's
intention on this list.

And maybe all these discussions will be enough for me or someone else to shake
their butt and really do something about it other than just rant and rave. In
the right environment, with the right people, and the right atmosphere, I'll do
anything.

The survey is a good start!

Also, this list evolves with time, with new people -- ignorant like myself of
the battles that took place before -- joining everyday. Repeating yourself is
part of being on the list. Create a form e-mail and just keep sending it and
perhaps put something on the website that says the same thing.

Cheers!

Philippe



----- Original Message -----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:35 AM
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> > Avi, I would glady pay that $80.00 for HV Pro. <g>
> >
> > Want it in advance?
>
> Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and
> you stop posting your theories about HV. It takes me a lot
> of time to download, read, and reply to such stuff, and the
> usefulness is close to nil, to both of us.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Is there a way to run 200lx apps on a Win9x machine?  Really, I want to
build a "virtual' palmtop on my desktop.  I've got the connectivity kit
software. (If it matters) Basically, I would like to build a software based
copy of my palmtop with all of the same apps on my laptop (some DOS, some
PAL, some built in) and synchronize the data.  I've added apps the System
Manager, and installed hdm for others.  It just seems easier to enter
information on the full sized system, then sync it with the palm for
portability.  Sorry, not interested in the Newton keyboard, it's really the
screen size that is making me uncomfortable.

Thanks, Calvin

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:22:29 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Zinc-Air Batteries

Is there such a thing as zinc-air AAs?

I'm just now hearing about them for cell phones and am considering giving
them a shot with my StarTAC.  The market blather on them makes me think
they'd be nice with my 200lx when I need to be connected to the office
for long periods.  Normal AAs don't seem to hold out too long and the AC
adapter is sometimes a hassle.

Anyone had actual experience with zinc-air batteries for any use (except
hearing aids)?

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:15:55 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<HAL, you listening? (G)  You've got some friends over at HP, maybe you
can get them to unload some extras of whatever including the outer upper
shell.>>

Buying parts so we can do repairs has been a challenge for several years. At
this point, getting repair parts is as far as I want to push.

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I believe Express uses the "Personal Address Book" which several 3rd party
vendors access as well.  This would be a very good idea.

Don.


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Any chance there will be an export/sync program for
Outlook Express?

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Isn't that a norton utility for insecure MS operating systems?

Don.

> I'm looking for a copy of the DOS version of PC-Therapist

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I always wanted to give this a shot... Anyone know where I can find a copy?

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Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HV - once again...

> > Avi, I would glady pay that $80.00 for HV Pro. <g>
> >
> > Want it in advance?
>
> Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and
> you stop posting your theories about HV. It takes me a lot
> of time to download, read, and reply to such stuff, and the
> usefulness is close to nil, to both of us.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com

That sounds like a great deal to me. :-)

You send me $80 and I promise I will never say anything bad about
your program. :-)

For $120 I will say GOOD things about it. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Posting beyond a reasonable limit

> We have just reached a `list-hold' limit of 100 posts again.
>
> I, for one, do not really want to deal with much more than 100 posts
> on this list in a day. Nice as the 200 may be, it actually isn't
> worth it to me.
>
> I realize that I have contributed to this problem by posting several
> messages today. While I cannot `take the pledge' and promise that it
> will never happen again, I _do_ promise to limit my postings in the
> future, and not just `write whatever vague and useless thought' happens
> to be passing thru my mind at the moment I am reading HPLX.
>
> When I see one poster with nearly two dozen posts between 5pm and
> 9pm, I feel I _can_ suggest that he is telling me much more about his
> passing ideas than I, for one, want to know.
>
> I suggest that others consider taking my `pledge'. I don't know if there
> is a corresponding `net abuse' program, but perhaps some of us could
> use it.

I have never understood that arguement. Granted there are a few
people that still pay by the minute for their connection and to those
people a large volume of mail is costly. For those people I suggest
just downloading the subjects and then only get the bodies of
messages that you actually want to read. That is the way I did things
for years when I used compuserve and was a poor student, works great
no matter what volume of mail. If your mail program doesn't
support this try another. If you are using one of our lx based
mail programs mayeb that is a feature that could be added, talk to
the author. For anyone else all I can say is, you do understand that
you DON'T have to read EVERY message, scan the subjects and only read
the ones that are pertinent. I get around 400 messages a day and it
only add up to about 1 hour of total time, even when I reply to
several of them.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:11:33 -0500
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Does anyone know if you can you run the LX's built-in apps (or .EXM's)
from the GEM desktop?

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
        Sent:   Wednesday, June 30, 1999 8:04 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Gem OS

        Isn't there a version of Gem that will run on the LX? If so,
where can I get
        a copy?

        Jeff

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Before I started using a 200LX, I used Infoselect for Windows and really
liked it. Where does one get the DOS version of Infoselect that runs on
the LX? Is it available on the net somewhere for download?

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What is ELKS?

-----Original Message-----
From: Calvin Ledford <cledford@CW.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 1999 18:46
Subject: Status of Palmtop


>Just joined the list after pulling my 200lx out of 2 years of hibernation
to
>connect to my new GPS...  What's the status of the Palmtop with HP?  Did
>anyone every get LINUX/ELKS stable and booting?
>
>-Calvin
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How about the middle, as I do? Would be a compromise...

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From: Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 1999 19:28
Subject: Re: Death from natural causes?


>I would think that lifting on the left side would cause more strain to the
>right side of the hinge.  Am I wrong?
>
>Don.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>Along with this, try to open the screen evenly and not just =
>lifting
>on the right side.
>
>Jeff
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: GUI or command line

> I didn't want to offend you with my reply. I directed my question to
> the crowd that compares the DOS or Unix command lines with the GUI
> of Windows. I have reread the post, and that's what's wrong for me:
>
> You write:
> "If people were actually HAPPY with a command line based system then
> UNIX would probably rule the day"
>


No offense taken but I think you are still missing the point of the
original discussion and the reason that a command line based system
was being compared to a GUI based system.

The discussion was that marketing could sell a command line based
machine like the dos based hplx. My retort was that people want gui
based machines like windows or macs or the dreaded wince. If people
were happy with command line based systems unix would have done much
better than it has. That was the point of the comparison.

> My interpretation:
> MS Windows 'rules the day'. It is not the command line part of MS Windows
> that 'rules the day', it is the GUI. So you compare the Unix command line
> with that what 'rules the day'. In other words: you compare a command
> line based system with the Windows GUI.
>

EXACTLY, that was the POINT of the discussion. People WANT GUI's and
they don't want command line interfaces. That is also why XWindows
was developed.

> Why did I use the Windows registry as an example? To configure a unixlike
> system as e.g. Linux, you can use the menudriven YaST or you have to do it
> with very cryptic configuration files or command line tasks. I used the
> MS Windows registry because the crowd is used to compare those cryptic
> alternatives with the Windows Control Panel. That's what's wrong for me.
> If you reread all the posts about this issue, including the ongoings,
> people go forward to compare GUI (MS Windows Control Panel e.g. is part
> of the GUI) with command lines. They do _NOT_ compare cryptic
> command lines with cryptic MS Windows registries.
>
> Result: MS brainwash is effective even for LX users ...
>
> (of course, as you wrote in your reply, you understand the difference
> between command line and GUI. But it's the language we are used to that
> does the brainwash)

The part about the command line versis the windows registry is still
rather strange. You would really have to compare the windows registry
to the collection of configuration files in a unix system. Personally
I will take a collection of flat text configuration files any day
over windows registry. If you actually look at the internal structure
and contents of the windows registry you will see that it is totally
screwy.

Pete

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:13:39 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Assembly Language and such

> As some one who has done a bit of programming, from assembly (started out on a
> MITS computer, flicking switches to load the cassetee boot code) to C, I think
> that the real driver has been missed in this discussion - we programmed in
> assembler because we HAD to  -  C is much nicer, and you can find zealots for
> every other language out there (I'm also partial to Pascal). As memory, hard
> drives, and CDROMs made larger programs easier to handle, the cost
> effectiveness of using assembler went down the tubes - usually in any well
> developed infrastructure it is the personal labor costs that are the driving
> factor.

Programming in assembler because you had to is the wrong tack on
things. You should be programming in assembler for efficiency. I
agree that the scale of some tasks is much more easily handled by a
higher level language but assembly will still be more efficient.
There is an old rule, I think it is 70/30, that says 70 percent of
the execution time of a program is spent in 30% of the code. That is
what profilers are for, if you identify and streamline that 30% you
can gain large amounts of efficiency without resorting to assembler
for the whole program.


> Assembly is particularly well suited to the HPLX, because of finite storage and
> processing power. Generally speaking, though, anything that would require
> assembly language for acceptable performance today in a standard PC, will
> function quite well in a higher levl language in two years because the hardware
> guys are kicking serious butt in continuing the development and refinement of
> computing power - I hope they can keep it up, and wonder what the final
> engineering boundaries will be.
>
> Brian
>

Nothing personal but that statement is the cause of the terrible
programming that exists today. Saying that I can write it terrilby
since the hardware will be fast enough to handle it is why we have an
os that takes 100m and runs slower than it predecessor. Look at it
from the other direction, if programs were written to be efficient
and fast we would probably be doing alot more with the same hardware
since we would have alot more processing power available and not
being wasted by the inefficient OS itself. To see this exact idea in
action take a look at an older version of GEOS and compare it to a
similarly dated version of windows. The orginal versions of GEOS were
all coded for efficiency, mostly if not totally in assembly and they
would literally run circles around windows3.1 one LESS hardware. I
had GEOS on a 286 that easily beat windows3.1 one a 386 with twice
the memory and twice the speed.

Pete

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Death from natural causes?

> <Maybe Mack could be more specific, I haven't taken mine apart to see
> the specific chips and types.>
>
> Perhaps the pictures on http://www.goeldi.com/lx/ could be informative?
>

Those are nice pictures but I will have to pass this one to someone
that is more familiar with the actual chips used internally.

Pete

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Clik! Drives

> Maybe I missed this topic earlier, but I just got a new PCMCIA type II
> "Clik!" 40
> meg drive for my laptop (the one that's a complete drive on the PC Card) and
> was wondering
> if there's any chance of getting this to work on the 200?  Or should I not
> even bother
> trying ...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kurt Hopfensperger
> kjhmdjd@ix.netcom.com

I doubt if there are any drivers, have you tried plugging it in to
see what happens, it can't hurt anything but make sure your internal
data is backed up. :-)

Otherwise, how do you like it for the laptop? I may get one of those
if they come down in price some. I would really like to see a digital
camera with the drive built in, sort of like the sony mavica line but
using a clik disk instead of a floppy.

Pete

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:26:07 EST
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 200LX discontinued soon- and Microsoft

> TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders wrote:
> > Sorry to say but the only native user interface that any unix I have
> > ever seen has is a command line based interface. You can ADD a shell
> > that implements a graphical user interface, call XWindows, but that
> > is NOT part of unix.
>
> Yes, this is exactly the same as with Windows95 (replace "UNIX" with
> "DOS" and "XWindows" with "Windows95" in your above statement).
>

OK, then replace windows95 with windowsNT and try to remove the GUI
then.

> > To be strictly technical unix itself DOES NOT
> > have any user interface, it requires an added on SHELL program to
> > implement a command line interface for user interaction.
>
> Correct. And that shell may be a command line thing or a GUI. It is
> "independent" of the OS, even though it obviously needs to be bundled
> with the OS because otherwise you cannot use the OS.
>
> > As far as
> > calling it serial port based that has nothing to do with the user
> > interface whatsoever.
>
> I did not mean to say that. I wanted to say that the *attribute*
> "command line based" does not make sense. As little sense as "serial
> port based" would make.
>
> > Adding XWindows to a unix system does not change
> > the fact that UNIX is a command line based system
>
> ??? Now I don't understand anymore. Above you correctly said that it
> does not make sense to say UNIX is "command line based" because it is
> not UNIX, but a SHELL that is command line based (and there are also
> GUI shells!) and now you say again that UNIX is "command line based"???
>
> Andreas


OK, here is a little test for you. Take ANY current or past version
of UNIX and install it on ANY machine that it will run on and WHAT
interface will you be presented with by default, a command line based
interface. UNIX was ORIGINALLY designed with a command line interface
and every version since the original has had the SAME interface. If
you want to be really picky DOS is not a command line based system
since you have to load a shell (command.com) to implement the command
line interface but I hardly think anyone will argue that DOS is not a
command line based system. UNIX is just as command line based as
DOS is since neither one is of much use WITHOUT a shell. Also, just
loading XWindows on top of UNIX does NOT remove the command line
based interface underneath, any more than loading win9x on top of DOS
removes the command line based interface, as YOU stated above. Wht if
the first thing most XWindows based setups load? An XTERM command
line shell.

Pete

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:29:02 GMT
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> I am curious - how does one prevent the hinge crack? I have just...

If the following doesn't prevent the crack I think it will at
least postpone it.

Assumption: The crack is caused by the o-ring in the right hinge
causing a bit of 'opening' tension after the lid has been
closed and latched.  This constant bit of stress eventually
causes the plastic to fail.

To prevent the crack we need to reduce the tension trying to
open the lid while it is closed and latched.

Experiment:
1. Open the lid to about 90 degrees.
2. Place your finger near the latch and slowly close the lid
   until it latches.  As soon as the latch closes remove your
   finger.
3. Take a pencil and push against the latch forcing it to open.
4. When the latch releases the lid it will 'pop' up about an
   eighth of an inch. This represents the the opening tension
   left in the hinge o-ring.

Now, how do we reduce this tension in the right hinge?

Experiment:
   (Perform steps 1 and 2 of the first experiment above.)
3. Now, with the lid closed and latched, squeeze the LX closed
   just forward of the right hinge, over where the crack forms.
   Don't squeeze with all your might; we aren't try to crush the
   LX, we just want to reduce a bit of the tension left in right
   hinge.  The case should flex a bit while you're squeezing.
4. Take a pencil and push against the latch forcing it to open.
5. If your LX is like mine, the latch should release but the lid
   shouldn't pop up.  The demonstrates that the squeeze you did
   forced the lid closed a bit more than usual and reduced the
   tension in the hinge.

When my 200LX (SG647.....) was about 6-8 months old I first
heard about the hinge crack.  I started looking in that area and
was shocked to see it happening to mine too.  I could see a
faint while line that I felt was the plastic starting to stress
and turn into a crack.

I started my "Squeeze Closing" then to see if I could delay the
crack from forming.  It's been about 2 years now and while I can
still see the faint white line, it has not developed into a crack.

I can only hope that my Squeeze is really helping; I don't
believe it is causing any harm.  The worst that is happening is
I am wasting my time with that additional step.  I don't think
that is the case though, I think the Squeeze reduces the tension
in the right hinge while closed and therefore prevents (or at
least postpones) the dreaded hinge crack.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:46:47 EST
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 200LX & Quill pens...

> Hi friends,
>
> > AFAIK - No one is making productive use of quill pens today.  Lots of
>
> I'd like to understand this discussion here, so please explain: What's
> a quill pen?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>

A large bird feather, turkey or such, sharpened to a point and dipped
into an ink well to write with. One usually had to have blotter paper
available as well as the ink took a long time to dry. This is the way
people wrote a long time ago, circa 1700 or so.

Pete

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:21:15 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Hardware Closeouts
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> I found a site with some closeout prices on some stuff that _may_ be of
> interest to 200lx users.
>
> http://www.extremecomputing.com/xcom/closeouts.html
>
> External PCMCIA adapter - $46.95

Just thought I would tell the list I did acquire this item BUT ....

Okay, first of all the place did call back and is VERY helpful
especially for a place that, in the words of whomever answers the phone:

"For a place that does not provide Tech support, we are very helpful!"

And he was.  It may be my setup with win95 or ....

The device appears to be older Technology.  It needs drivers installed
in Config.sys and the supplied software does do that.  It just runs like
a slug IF and this seems a biggie, Win95 will boot up.  I had to TRY
rebooting about half dozen or more times.  It would lockup in various
locations. Periodically, it wanted SAFE-MODE.  And then would lock up on
the next boot.

I have a parallel port zip drive which may be adding complications
to the mix.  I did not try chaining them but the zip is "installed"
under win95.

So there you have it....

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> you DON'T have to read EVERY message, scan the subjects and only read
> the ones that are pertinent. I get around 400 messages a day and it
> only add up to about 1 hour of total time, even when I reply to
> several of them.

Yup, I agree with that.  I for one delete almost one hundred percent of the
mail i get from this list, usually without even looking at the topics.

A year ago, that was not the case, of course, I could trust that I would find
useful and relevant posts about ninety percent of the time.  Perhaps that's
indicative of changes in my own knowledge and needs, including increased
activity in the Free Software movement, with more of my time devoted to that
than to my LX.
        To attribute the entire phenomenon to my own changes, however, would be
a glaring error.  Certainly the number of subject lines I've seen reading
'unsubscribe' are indicative of a general decrease in satisfaction with the
list, though I have not read those messages, so who am I to say?  I'll continue
to receive the list, and readsome things, especially on programming, though
those posts tend to be few and far between these days.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:19:51 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
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John Waller wrote:
>What I really would like is a full description of the proitocol. Does
anyone
>have a full description of this protocol?

You could try hanging a dumb terminal on the serial interface and inspecting
the message streams, together with the source code you have got you may be
able to piece together the jigsaw.

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Stephen Petty wrote
>From www.hplx.net
>BuyComp - This vendor is the all-time evil vendor. If life were Star Wars,
>BuyComp would be the Emperor. Or maybe not.> They're so incompetent, they'd
>probably be a bumbling storm trooper. They take orders for products,
>claiming to have >them in stock, AND CHARGE YOUR CREDIT CARD RIGHT THEN,
and
>never deliver the product, even if you order it >with second-day shipping.

I am about to purchase a 48MB Sandisk Compact flash card from BuyComp, well
I was until I saw this posting. Are they really that bad? If so, can anybody
recommend an alternative supplier with comparable prices to BuyComp ($95 for
48MB).

I am based in the UK but was planning on buying from a US supplier as the
prices are so much cheaper than over here.

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I use 3 mailaccounts in Post/lx. I also subscribe to a lot of
newsgroups. For most of the time I want to download newsgropus and
headers in some newsgroups..but sometimes when I borrow my friends irda
8810 I only want to download the emailaccounts.

I would like a easy way to swich between the "standard" setup of
download/headers and the 9600 setup where I do not download any
newsgroups..is there a way of doing this besides going throug the 20
newsgroups and swiching to -- for every newsgroups

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
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Kat,

Believe me, in spite of my comments I am sincerely sorry that you are
disappointed in your purchase of such a high-priced item. You ran down some
of your criticisms of the WinCE handheld.  Could I ask you, what did you hope
that it would do for you when you bought it, and what work are you actually
able to do with it now?

-roger-

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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What cluster size is used on those upgraded 32 and 64 meg drives?

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Larry,

What about that keyboard.  Could that be made to work with the LX?

-roger-

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:11:13 EDT
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It's my understanding, based upon the last time I looked at the specs, that
the current draw is way too high for the LX, besides which they have not
issued DOS drivers (which is not to say someone couldn't hack a driver if
current wasn't a problem).

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I just got an IDE PCMCIA drive for my desktop, and can't seem to figure
out how to make it work with Windows 98.  Anybody else have one of these?

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Message text written by INTERNET:jls@goldengate.net
>  Well, his companies web site is still "alive" at:
        http://pages.prodigy.com/NY/jsw
  That help any?  :¬)
<

Thanks, John, I couldn't find that site on CSi but Netscape found it OK.
The  site contains much of what is in the booklet that J Weintraub sent m=
e
back in '95.  I note that the last update to the site was 1996. Makes me
wonder about Prodigy.  They must just leave stuff up there forever.  It
might be a faux-immortality<g>.

I tried the fax number and got a wrong number.  I'll try again when my
fingers are working better. The telephone number has been disconnected wi=
th
no forwarding number.  It doesn't sound promising.  I'm hoping that someo=
ne
has a copy that they'd be willing to sell or trade.  It originally cost
$30.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:10:33 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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Hi everyone,

Two questions about smmlx:

1. How come when I add a new exm application and check the "To Moreexm.ini"
checkbox, it doesn't add the information to moreexm.ini ?

2. What the heck is a Socket?

Thanks,
Owen

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:09:46 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Message text written by INTERNET:dcollins@TRENDX.COM
>I open subset/define/general
and then type in !*Date  (where date =3D the name of the field) but all
records
are displayed. <

Interesting: it works on both 200LXs that I have.  It could be a differen=
ce
in the Rom versions. It's an undocumented feature and is not supposed to
work. Maybe you have a machine that fixed the feature.

.ed.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:43:42 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Post/Lx what I would like in a upgrade
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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> I would like a easy way to swich between the "standard" setup of
> download/headers and the 9600 setup where I do not download any

You can use Ctrl-S to select which sets are visible and "active" but you
will first have to assign the various newsgroups or mail-accounts to a
SUBSET.  So, point to each newsgroup, Press EDIT (f7) and see the field
called SETS.  Give it a letter of your choice.  Do similar for other
newsgroups - same or different letter groupings.

All my email are in Set M.  That effectively turns off all other
newsgroups or folders.

A space will reveal all groups again.

By the way, if there are any NEW Items (headers or messages) in a group,
it will not be hidden by selecting other sets.  IF there is something
unread, it will continue to show.  Use the manual toggle method that
way.

See the docs if I left out any details.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:43:39 +0000
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Subject:      Re: PIM's and freeform databases.  Was  Re: 200LX discontinued
              soon- ...
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> Before I started using a 200LX, I used Infoselect for Windows and really
> liked it. Where does one get the DOS version of Infoselect that runs on
> the LX? Is it available on the net somewhere for download?

I think they still sell the dos version and even had an addendum for
InfoSelect on the HP palmtops.  I've been thinking about the windows'
version but have been doing so for years - still use the dos version
under win95 when I'm so inclined.  I have been a user since it was
Tornado Notes.

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You may find some of the software including Accis and WWW/POST/LX will
run under Palrun.com in win95's dos box.  It may be available on the
supersite.  Also cg (or cgagraph.com) from the cpack will allow some of
this to run on a win95 desktop.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:08:11 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: Steve Dowell Ýmailto:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨

> Before I started using a 200LX, I used Infoselect for Windows
> and really liked it. Where does one get the DOS version of
> Infoselect that runs on the LX? Is it available on the net
> somewhere for download?
>
> Steve

  To the best of my knowledge, all DOS versions of InfoSelect work on the
LX.  You may be able to find a pirated copy online, but I'd encourage you to
try to find a legitimate copy.  (It's a commercial product and we need to
encourage "the good ones" to stick around as long as possible...)  You can
sometimes find it up for auction on eBay or occasionally on this list
(that's how I got my copy...).

  It's still available direct from MicroLogic for $79.95 via mail-order.  If
you're interested, look at the "DOS Version" note at the bottom of this
page:
        http://www.miclog.com/is3feat.htm

  Happy hunting,
              ... JLS

  PS: I found an interesting note on the MicroLogic web site.  They're
porting InfoSelect to the PalmPilot...  While I'm not likely to jump that
direction soon, it's good to see one of our favorite applications will be
available on another platform when my last spare LX gives up the fight...

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:01:05 +0200
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After I nuked my cf card with the selftest I am now back..I could not
go back infront of my desktop computer to answer mail/news..back on the
hp200 again..

Well my question is regarding sms.scr and phone.scr for Robot/Lx

I have tested these scripts with a friends Nokia 8810 and they worked
very well.

Since I do not own a phone yet with Irda, I would like to use the
Hp 700 Lx with the scripts..I can not get this to work. I get:

Enabeling datacard..
Setting up parameters..
Got AT+CPMS-"SM"
Error
<
Timeout
Line 31 in sms.scr

The same setup works in my Hp200 with a Nokia 8810 and also in the Hp
700 lX with the 8810. But not with the 2110 in the Hp700 lx..

I know I can use the internal smsapplication, but Post/lx is better..
The pcmciacard which is internal in the Hp700 does it support the Etsi
standard? Any suggestions other than waiting for the Irda Nokia 7110..

Thanks in advance..(Avi does the sig look alright? ;-)))

-- Mvh/Regards Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
   Tlf:+4776941462 Mob:+4790199462
   Mailer:Hp200 Lx with Post/Lx
-  "This is probably the best button to press"
   From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:38:20 -0700
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> What cluster size is used on those upgraded 32 and 64 meg drives?

My 32MB drive uses 1K clusters.  I believe the 64MB drive probably does
too, but I could be wrong.

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In a message dated 6/30/99 8:39:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, th@CSI.COM
writes:

>
>  How does underline mode show on your palmtop screen? I must have the
>  wrong printer file installed or something. Any tips on precisely how to
>  set up NB4.5a to run on a palmtop gratefully received!

I'll get back to you tomorrow night on this because answering it involves my
having to transfer a sample doc back to the palmtop, also inspecting the
config files.  I set up the "colors" (or character attributes, more
precisely) through experimentation, but these settings are reduced to numbers
somewhere, I know.

-roger-

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The Scholars workstation is a package.  I believe they will sell you the
wordprocessor alone if asked.  How specific do you want me to be on the
setup, as if it would be helpful to the general list at this point?  I first
did a basic wordprocessing installation to a desktop hard drive, then ported
it over to the C:> drive of my palmtop and adjusted variables for the mono
screen, directories, etc.  Nothing particularly difficult about this.  My
experience printing off of this program has been confined to Laserjets III &
IV because I chose to install only those drivers.  Getting the first page out
is not fast, but it works reasonably from then on.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:56:06 -0700
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> Peter,
>
> Please let me know when your browser is available for beta testing.  Will it be
> open source?

ROFL... but I really think Peter did not mean to challenge,
just to question the value Stefan put on LXPIC.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:56:33 -0700
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> > Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and you stop
> > posting your theories about HV. It takes me a lot of time to download,
> > read, and reply to such stuff, and the usefulness is close to nil, to
> > both of us.
>
> Can I get in on this deal?  <g>

No you know too much as a beta tester. Besides, it is only
open to those I offer, and only for about 3 minutes! :-)

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:56:20 -0700
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> > To add my $0.02 into this discussion.... my company charges
> > $125 per hour for Windows (including CE) development work
> > and we've got more work than people.
> >
> I said I would write ASSMEBLER for $100 an hour. It would
> take MUCH more than that for me to write windows programs,
> probably in C. I have my standards. :-)

I dunno about your standards, but the mere fact you are
willing to code for that "thing" :) is not a good indication.
Right now, it looks to me that we know your standards, and we
are just haggling the price! :-)

(Peter, I really could not resist this one! <VBG>)

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Peter,

> > Rewriting JPEG for the palmtop was a ~$50.000 job if I count
> > the time I invested. I did it for me in my spare time. But
> > please don't think, only because I made it available for free
> > it cannot be worth a lot!
>
> I can't comment on the rest of the discussion but I can't pass this
> one up. All I can say is you either make ALOT of money per hour or
> you write assembly REALLY slow. Don't want to detract from your jpeg
> decoder but $50,000 would mean a whole lot of time even at $100+
> hour.

I calculate about 500 hours. If you tried to read and
understnd all the nuttiness of JPEGs you would see that the
many of these hours can easily be justified. Perhaps you have
ignored the planning time, design, research debugging, etc.
That is a mistake. On the average I found over several decades
that planning, design, and research take about 25-35+% of a
project's time.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:56:27 -0700
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Ian,

Forgive me for writing again.

> The reason I can't speak for palmtop programming is I don't
> know C or Perl, the only two languages that support PAL.

PAL alone add huge chunks to the program size. Better not use
it. So that puts you back in the driver's seat of coding
the next one.

> I can program just fine in about 6-7 other languages
> (mostly legacy), and I know my way around small systems.

Well, that's excellent! Is assembly one of the legacy
languages? That would help you make the code very tight.

BTW, the 600K program you suggested means no TCP/IP engine.
You know you need that to connect to your ISP and manage
all the calls and all that. Of course, you can incorporate
it as new code inside the new browser you are planning. It
will add to the coding time and to the size of course.

> The only reason I'm not shutting up about this is that I
> can't write a better program (because I don't know C, not
> because I'm not capable of writing programs of that
> magnitude (because I have)), but I can help.

Ok, I'll take that as a serious offer. Could you kindly
help out by producing what you already offered once?
Produce the design of a better, tighter, more feature rich
browser. If you want to incorporate the TCP/IP
communication layer, than you probably have to design that
in too. Also what about the dialler? Scripts? How about
multiple ISP management? Well, I won't tell you how to do
your part in this.

When do you think you can have the design? Would you
release it in public?

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Stefan,

> Rewriting JPEG for the palmtop was a ~$50.000 job if I count
> the time I invested. I did it for me in my spare time. But
> please don't think, only because I made it available for free
> it cannot be worth a lot!

You make two very important statements here:

1. The software you and other talents here write takes a lot
of time, a lot of effort, and lots of planning and cooperation
with other people.

I assume the number you quote is based on the time, the level
off effort, and planning, design, and so on that it took to
make JPEGs display in LXPIC.

I cannot know the numbers, but I do know what you had to do,
since JPEG specifications are publicly available to everyone
to read. It is a formidable job to read and understand, let
alone code. To be able to squeeze it so tighly as you have
done in LXPIC borders on the genius.

So it seems like a reasonable amount of money. I know that
when you offered it to us to use, and what you asked for in
exchange, I felt like I robbed you of something! So
intellectual efforts in programming can be significantly
priced.

2. The second point you make is that just because it is free
it is not worthless. The perception of so many people who use
programs is that they are free, therefore they are worthless.
In fact, many excellent examples exist of major works that
defy this model (Apache, Linux, LXPIC, HV, come to mind).

> To write a usable browser for the palmtop is a huge project
> and coming close to what HV already does needs several 100 hours
> of work. I have to agree with Avi: as long as nobody apart from
> Andreas seriously faces this challenge, you should be less
> demanding!

I want to jump in here...

In all my professional life as a programmer and manager of
large programming and computer projects I have always wanted
_demanding customers_. I think they are the best!

Even if you cannot satisfy them, because of constraints you
have (project, machines, whatever) there are always nuggets of
truth that may pop one day, but they must be nurtured by
intelligent discourse, and truly committed people who apply
their wits, their energy.

What does not work is a "demanding customer" who strides into
center stage with pompous declarations of worthiness and
appropriateness, and then contemptuously throwing a challenge
on the floor to be picked up. this is assinine at best.

But you know what? Even here sometimes there is hidden talent!
I have seen that. That is why I, enraged as I was, still
suggested that some real steps be taken by that person. Maybe
there is something there. I would be happy with the emergence
of it, because it would benefit the whole community, and
myself as part of it.

> AFAIK, OPERA was written by 20 programmers, NETSCAPE is a
> x-billion enterprise, and IE employs a whole skyscraper.

ROFL... Probably just 5 guys for Opera, and maybe 125 for the
core of Netscape with another 25 of ancillary parts. MSIE
probably one snotty guy in Visual C with huge libraries, in
one afternoon. I cannot imagine more effort than that :-)
(really, actually I am joking... I think MSIE cold be made
with about 125+25 people, like Netscape.) I am comparing to
other projects with similar millions of lines of code which I
managed in the past.

> What do you expect from a single person programming in his
> spare time?  The best of all indeed ;-)

Usually that is true. I know in the case of Andreas there is a
lot of the _person_ involved. He _really_ likes to do
excellent code, stuff that breaks the walls and pushes out.
That is why he does it. (Forgive me Andreas for telling your
secrets in public. I was gonna tell them it was for the money,
or for the glory of immortality, but well...:-¨)

Stefan, thank you for posting this. I think coming from you,
this is a seminal message for all to help understand what it
takes to program some things on the palmtop.

The worst thng you geniuses do is make it easy to use: A nice
interface, thinking in advance about what all the crazinesses
the users will throw at the code, and so on. When you do this,
you spoil everyone to think it is so eaaaaaaasy!!! :)

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Tony,

Between this and several other posts, I gather you apparently are either not
satisfied with NB4.5a for DOS or have had difficulty with some of the
features.  I'd be glad to run through this stuff with you over the next
couple of days.  However, I can tell you now that I have never had a problem
with the menu on the right side of the file directory list.

Clearly, XyWrite III+ is going to take up less memory.  That's because NB4.5a
has a richer feature set and a richer menued interface.  If someone did not
need all the features of NB4.5a, XyWrite III+ might be a suitable choice.
However, that program is no longer sold, and my point was that here is a DOS
wordprocessor that is being sold, that does run on the palmtop, and that does
have an organization and technical support behind it.

-roger-

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Pete Borders wrote:

>Nothing personal but that statement is the cause of the terrible
>programming that exists today. Saying that I can write it terrilby
>since the hardware will be fast enough to handle it is why we have an
>os that takes 100m and runs slower than it predecessor. Look at it

We are approaching it from different viewpoints. I approach from a capitalistic
viewpoint - it is cheaper to write the programs "poorly" (your definiton, not
mine) and get them to market quicker. You are right about "profiling" and its
advantages, but the fact that GEOS could run circles around Windows 3.11 had
little impact on the outconme of the matter. The hardware to run 3.11 well
enough (as defined by the millions of people that bought it) was available at a
price they were willing to afford. MS did a better job of influencing the
market through products, advertising, contracts with vendors, and presumably
through "anti-competitive" business practices. Monopolies are hard things for
free markets to deal with effectively... very much the same as entitlements are
hard for democracies to deal with effectively.

Brian

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:13:20 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

>If you are referring to the `Damark' that traded for over $30/share
>in 1994 and closed today a bit over $8 while the market has gone from
>under 4000 to over 10000 over the same period, I'm not sure it proves
>your point.
>
>Maybe another example would illustrate your point better?

  I'm sure that there are many other examples that illustrate my point,
but you have given me no reason to believe that Damark is a bad example,
at all. Please correct me if my logic is flawed in some way.

  Stock prices are affected by a multitude of market forces. Some of
those market forces are less than rational.  If Damark had actually been
losing money since 1994, I'd suspect that Damark would have gone out of
business long ago and Damark stock would have become worthless.

  I believe that time has actually proven that Damark has indeed been
making a profit through creative marketing.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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In a message dated 6/30/99 8:43:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

> When I went to the NB site I found that NB4.5 needs a 386 CPU or better and
>  benefits greatly from XMS memory.
>  I also found that for first-time buyers the cost is $368.00.  I think I'll
>  stick with what I have, PalEdit and VDE (and Memo).
>
>  .ed.

Ed,

Please don't tell this to my palmtop; it'll have a fit!!  Here are the system
requirements to run NB4.5a:

IBM PC, XT, AT, PS/2 or compatible, 386, 486 or Pentium
640 Memory (at least 580 Kb conventional memory available to run the program)
DOS 3 or higher.
A mono CGA screen is supported.
The basic installation is under 2Mb.  The full installation of "scholar's
workstation" add-ons would require about 5Mb total..

When they say that the program will benefit from a '386 CPU or better, they
are referring to the overlays for spell-checking (the issue is whether the
entire overlay is loaded into XMS memory or accessed from disk, which in the
case of a palmtop is a RAM drive) and the add-on full text search and
retrieval feature, which works with conventional memory only anyway, but is
obviously not as efficient as with a more robust processor and XMS overlays.
This has nothing to do with your wordprocessing chores, and would not even
seriously affect the search and retrieval function for the volume of text
files likely to be kept on even a 64Mb palmtop

Now, if you have a lot of drivers or TSRs in your normal configuration, NB
will protest, and if they consume too much memory, it will tell you that,
although it will grudgingly agree to run, not all features may be available.
It has NEVER been friendly towards other resident programs as even its
advocates will concede.  What I do is simply clear most of this stuff out.
However, I have run NB successfully with drivers for a CD-ROM, or with
Tornado Notes using the Swap Utilities.  Obviously, it's a case of "your
mileage may vary."

Because I have used this program since version 3, I enjoy an upgrader's
price.  However, the regular price is not out of line with what you'd have to
shell out for a first-time buy of any full-featured, professional level
wordprocessor on the shelf.

I respect all three of the editors you have mentioned, and I have used two of
them in the past, but let's remember, they are text editors and nothing more.
 If they serve your purpose, great.  This is merely a suggestion to people
who would like to have the option of carrying around a more robust program
that will enable them to exchange their work-in-progress with their desktops
or laptops.

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I find the argument that `creative marketing' produces much sustainable

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
>   I'm sure that there are many other examples that illustrate my point,
> but you have given me no reason to believe that Damark is a bad example,
> at all. Please correct me if my logic is flawed in some way.
>
>   Stock prices are affected by a multitude of market forces. Some of
> those market forces are less than rational.  If Damark had actually been
> losing money since 1994, I'd suspect that Damark would have gone out of
> business long ago and Damark stock would have become worthless.
>
>   I believe that time has actually proven that Damark has indeed been
> making a profit through creative marketing.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
>

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In a message dated 6/30/1999 01:48:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sponsor@FTEL.NET writes:

> Let's do it the other way around :-)  I'll send you $80 and
>  you stop posting your theories about HV.

Avi & Jeff clearly have different views on freedom of expression.

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I find the argument that `creative marketing' produces much sustainable
value is dubious at best, and that---I believe---_is_ illustrated,
perhaps inadvertently, by your example.

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> >If you are referring to the `Damark' that traded for over $30/share
> >in 1994 and closed today a bit over $8 while the market has gone from
> >under 4000 to over 10000 over the same period, I'm not sure it proves
> >your point.
> >
> >Maybe another example would illustrate your point better?
>
>   I'm sure that there are many other examples that illustrate my point,
> but you have given me no reason to believe that Damark is a bad example,
> at all. Please correct me if my logic is flawed in some way.
>
>   Stock prices are affected by a multitude of market forces. Some of
> those market forces are less than rational.  If Damark had actually been
> losing money since 1994, I'd suspect that Damark would have gone out of
> business long ago and Damark stock would have become worthless.
>
>   I believe that time has actually proven that Damark has indeed been
> making a profit through creative marketing.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:42:31 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Assembly Language

> We are approaching it from different viewpoints. I approach from a capitalistic
> viewpoint - it is cheaper to write the programs "poorly" (your definiton, not
> mine) and get them to market quicker. You are right about "profiling" and its
> advantages, but the fact that GEOS could run circles around Windows 3.11 had
> little impact on the outconme of the matter. The hardware to run 3.11 well
> enough (as defined by the millions of people that bought it) was available at a
> price they were willing to afford. MS did a better job of influencing the
> market through products, advertising, contracts with vendors, and presumably
> through "anti-competitive" business practices. Monopolies are hard things for
> free markets to deal with effectively... very much the same as entitlements are
> hard for democracies to deal with effectively.
>
> Brian
>

Of course from the business standpoint fast and cheap even when it
doesn't really work is fine, that is the standard that has evolved in
the computer industry as a whole but that doesn't make it a good
thing. As far as what is poor, don't you consider an OS with
hundreds of known bugs a poor piece of code? What level of bugs
and related problems are OK? I understand that 100% perfect is not
attainable but the current model of letting the users beta test and
then fixing half the bugs and selling something is a little much. Of
course it does drive the upgrade business which is also highly
regarded by business. Wouldn't it be an interesting world if eveything
worked like the computer software industry. Want to beta test the
latest model car, it only crashes on 25% of the people, just sign
this waver and have fun. Would really be fun testing those new
jetliners. Human crash test dummies, what a concept. Also, if
your car doesn't run very well just wait until the upgrade comes
out and buy it, for a small discount over new. Also, people buy
what marketing convinces them to buy, sadly to say, that is why GEOS
lost, and so did everyone in the end. If efficient, bug free code was
the industry standard we would probably all be talking to our
computers and the AI functions would handle every wim, all on the
same amount of hardware as is wasted today on bloated code.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:17:58 EDT
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Bob,

I think this is a very interesting question worth exploring.  At some point,
there ought to be an archive of  the moldy oldies, even if just for
historical interest.  Without doubt, there are some serious Y2K issues and
other bugginess (is that a word?) with some of the earlier releases.  I don't
know whether this would put them off.  However, even a CD-ROM consisting
solely of the final distributed versions of the software would be of interest.

-roger-

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:49:37 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

>   I'm sure that there are many other examples that illustrate my point,
> but you have given me no reason to believe that Damark is a bad example,
> at all. Please correct me if my logic is flawed in some way.
>
>   Stock prices are affected by a multitude of market forces. Some of
> those market forces are less than rational.  If Damark had actually been
> losing money since 1994, I'd suspect that Damark would have gone out of
> business long ago and Damark stock would have become worthless.
>
>   I believe that time has actually proven that Damark has indeed been
> making a profit through creative marketing.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan

Most of what Damark sells is discontinued items, but they do
occasionally get something current. Alot of it is last years model or
something that didn't sell well. I have bought things from them in
the past and they are ok to do business with. I don't think they
could do much to market a product like the 200lx since they coudn't
get it cheap enough from hp to sell it. I wish they would, we could
pick up brand new 200lx's for $150 or so if they did.

Pete

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:37:58 EDT
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What is your problem, and what is your model Megahertz modem.  Maybe I can
help you find an initialization string that will improve things.  I have a PP
X-Jack that I haven't tried yet.  I logged on both to subscribe and to test
the lower power Creative Labs Modem Blaster 14.4Kb that Thaddeus sells.
Worked like a charm the first time and ever since.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:50:44 -0700
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Subject:      word processor for lx

Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
on the 200lx? I have Word 5.5, but it won't allow it
on the lx, only on my laptop. I assume it needs more
than CGA. I tried several shareware for a while but
couldn't find anything. Any help?

tia,
n.

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Marketing

> I find the argument that `creative marketing' produces much sustainable
> value is dubious at best, and that---I believe---_is_ illustrated,
> perhaps inadvertently, by your example.
>

I don't think that creative marketing is what keeps Damark going, I
think it is really low prices on close out items. I have bought
things from the at 1/4 of the "normal" price that was in effect as
few as two months before, that is why things sell. When I can buy a
digital camera that is sometimes still be sold for upwards of $600
from Damark for $150 or less then I am happy, creative marketing or
not.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:22:36 EDT
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In a message dated 6/30/99 8:50:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> Frankly, instead of the anemic win-ce, I'd really prefer win95 on that
>  size platform.  But it seems that battery power and capacity to run such
>  an unweildly operating system is not there.
>
Fred, unless your talking about a form factor such as the J420 or Palms, is
there that much difference from an ultralight sub-notebook? Or, for that
matter, in battery capacity.  This is what I don't get, and I don't think the
mass market will get it either.

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I don't know if it's still available.  I bought mine a long time ago from the
developer.  Why not give them a call?

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> Is there a word processor that allows "print preview"
> on the 200lx? I have Word 5.5, but it won't allow it

Someone who has it may be able to suggest if it can work???  It just may
need the correct screen installation???

Word 5.0 does show print preview but will soon be a problem as it is NOT
y2k and apparently has fatal problems, not just date errors.

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