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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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It will cost you a lot of money
for removing it!
>  > P.S. Speaking of AS/400's, anybody know what I could do with an old System
>  > 36? It weighs about 300 lbs, can't run any of the software my company needs,
>  > and is collecting dust in the middle of my computer room. The Boat Anchor
>  > idea was presented, but we're afraid it might sink the boat :)
>
> Patrick:
>
Al
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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:38:33 -0800
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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:47:00 -0500, "Thomas A. Frank" <tfrank9@IDT.NET> =
wrote:

tf> Hello All;
tf>
tf> It seems to me that this story points out a serious flaw in the =
design of
tf> the 200LX.  If your unit is "locked" (password protected), then =
someone
tf> finding it doesn't get to see the topcard when they turn it on, and =
hence
tf> can't find out your name and telephone number to return it to you.
tf>
tf> After reading the thread, I've decided to make sure PW protection is =
off
tf> when I travel, and to also make sure I quit all apps when I'm not =
actively
tf> using the unit, in the hopes that if I do lose the LX, it will come =
back to
tf> me.
Hi Tom,
"Buddy" will do this. When turned off with "Fn F" of after a user
determined time off, it will allow power on but thats all until your
password is entered. Hitting Tab brings up a text file with whatever
info you put there. This isn't bulletproof, a hard reset will bypass
this function and I would imagine removing the batteries would too( I
havn't tried that.) You can get Buddy at the SUPER site and at
buddy.com.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:15:07 -0000
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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I think you will find that pretty soon (if not already) you will be able to
buy a printer that wll handle the HTML directly, i.e. you give it a URL and
it goes and gets it and prints it.  Cool, if one can handle the security.
You may not be able to *afford* such a printer though !  People like Xerox
and Tektronix are going that way.

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Hi All,

In the description of the FINDER-Programm (new at the SUPER-Site) are the
following Programs/Add ons mentioned: LE.EXM, ME.EXM, LHE.COM Does
anybody of the List know, where I can get these?

Thanks & Bye

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:09:49 -0800
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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I had a pair of 200LXen stolen and I am thankful I had them password protected.

Wayne

"Thomas A. Frank" wrote:

> Hello All;
>
> It seems to me that this story points out a serious flaw in the design of
> the 200LX.  If your unit is "locked" (password protected), then someone
> finding it doesn't get to see the topcard when they turn it on, and hence
> can't find out your name and telephone number to return it to you.
>
> After reading the thread, I've decided to make sure PW protection is off
> when I travel, and to also make sure I quit all apps when I'm not actively
> using the unit, in the hopes that if I do lose the LX, it will come back to
> me.
>
> I may someday make a new topcard with Reward if Found and contact info in
> (on?) it, so I can go back to PW protection.
>
> Just an observation.
>
> Tom Frank
>
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:48:43 -0500
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>Date:    Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:42:37 -0600
>From:    James Gill <jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET>
>Subject: Re: S36 Future...
>
>We also have a system 36 that is getting in the way and I would
appreciate any
>ideas for its future. West Texas is a long way from a coral
reef.

Funny, I remember studying all about the Permian Basin in Geology
lo these many years ago, and West Texas is full of coral reefs -
just look for an oil well (maybe you can dump the S/36 down a
bore hole, or embed it in a salt dome to keep the bad chemicals
from escaping)

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:04:42 -0500
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: LE.EXM, ME.EXM, LHE.COM
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.3.89.9903011329.A8608-0100000@bach.dwelle.de>; from Axel
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> In the description of the FINDER-Programm (new at the SUPER-Site) are the
> following Programs/Add ons mentioned: LE.EXM, ME.EXM, LHE.COM Does
> anybody of the List know, where I can get these?

Toshiki is looking into LE.EXM and ME.EXM, but I think they have some font
prerequisites that might preclude their use on palmtops that aren't using
Japanese fonts.
--
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:27:31 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Regarding recent thread on lost 200LX

Quick sum of what I've read: P-word prevents topcard viewing and helps keep
the palmtop from finding its way home...

Haven't used the feature yet (well I tinkered with it, but was too chicken
to leave it on), but doesn't Buddy let you set up a password protection that
will default to the topcard *OR* a text file Ýlike "reward.txt"¨ if a
"finder" trys to access your palmtop w/o the password?

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              Neo Sia Meng <neosiam@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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There should not be any problems running cpack200 in win98.  I am using
win98 with my cpack200 right now.  Perhaps you can tell us specifically
what is the problem, then someone might be able to help.


Bob Graham wrote:
>
> I have CPACK200 running on my laptop under Windows 95, but got a new
> decktop machine that came with Windows 98. Can anyone tell me how to get
> CPACK200 to run under Win 98?
>
> Aloha - bob     \ooo_
>
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This is a request for suggestions.

How do other list members keep track of files on their system?

I know executables usually (but not always) display a help message when executed
with just "/?"... and most (but not all) ZIP files will have documentation.

I'm particularly interested in documenting what my executable files are, as well
as my directory of .ZIP files. Usually, after I've had these files on my system
for a year or more and forget what they are or where they came from, a search of
a nice text list with file notes would be handy. I'd like a "at a glance"
approach to knowing what the files are.

I once used a PC Magazine program called DIRNOTES (from Simtel, DIRNO120.ZIP),
which displays a DIR style listing, but provides a field of about 40 chars to
enter a note for each file. The list/comments are stored as a text file in the
same directory and the each time you run DIRNOTES, it reads the file and updates
the list in case the dates/sizes changed or in case files were added/deleted.

The advantage is that it's quick, cheap and the text file is easy to print or
copy.

I'd like to see the ability to add more than 40 chars of info tho...plus the
text file created by DIRNOTES seem to lose its information when I try to
manually edit it. There may have been other quirky things...it's been a while.

Does anyone have another method to recommend (of documenting the files on their
system)? The less manual work, the better...meaning I don't want to have to key
in the filenames I'm trying to document (and yes VI users, I know you can edit a
text file and do a !!dir to get the directory listing into the file...but then
subsequent updates are a nuisance...plus normal DIR lists eat up too much of the
line).

I also don't want to run a whole disk management system in order to do
this...DIRNOTES is only 3k and it's not too far from what I want.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:40:04 -0700
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I have installed X-Finder on my 200lx and think it is pretty nifty.

However, I cannot get it to extract or archive .zip files.  It can enter a
.zip like a directory, but I can't get any of the information, nor can I
mark files to create a new .zip file.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:44:36 -0500
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              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      About Palmtop Circuit for the LX.

    Hello Jeff,

I copied a short part of the Palmtop Circuit user's manual back
on 6th October 1998 and sent to HPLX-L list. You can find it:
<www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/october.mail/0233.html>

I do think that it must be good software, but are they willing
to sell it? I will see early next week, at last.

            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:03:57 -0500
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Mon,  1 Mar 1999 13:53:59 -0500 (EST)
Hi Group -

Any list members using BGFax on their palmtops?  I've been trying it
out, and have no problem sending faxes.  But when receiving, I get
less than 1/3 of each page.  The external modem (USR Sportster 14.4)
lights show that SOMETHING is coming thru, but when viewing or
printing the fax, there's nothing after the top (about) 1/3 page.  It
ends with error level 4 (fax received).  Looking at the fax file with
a hex viewer shows some data followed by lots of hex FF bytes.

I'm launching BGFax from Jorgen's FaxGUI.  Receive parameters are
/MO   /DIS:79

A typical BGFAX.LOG shows this at the end of the page:

page Ý#1¨  size Ý30398¨  cps Ý959¨  lines Ý376¨
WARNING: RTC not detected (0)
Extra Bytes: BOP=3D0, EOP=3D0
f=3DÝNO CARRIER¨

If there are more pages, it continues, but cuts off the image after
about 1/3 page again...

Anybody have an idea what the @##$¬& is happening?  I probably need to
change something in my configuration, but sure can't figure out what.
Thought adding the /DIS:79 parameter would help, but it doesnt seem to.

TIA

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:44:36 -0500
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Mon,  1 Mar 1999 16:23:16 -0500 (EST)

02h26m04s ago ...
On Mon,  1 Mar 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> I cannot get it to extract or archive .zip files.  It can enter a
> .zip like a directory, but I can't get any of the information, nor can =
I
> mark files to create a new .zip file.

Do you have the freeware zip and unzip programs installed in your path?
Or pkzip and pkunzip?  You need to have these for X-Finder to process
.zip files.  If you use pkzip and pkunzip, you'll need to modify your
finder.env file (that part is almost at the end...).

One "gotcha" is that if the .zip is meant to create subdirectories, and
expand some files to them, viewing the contents won't work right.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:57:51 EST
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The following site is selling numberous DOS programs.

Cathy

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=72762748
<A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=72762748">eBay
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:24:44 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      SC initial delay issue.

I just started using the newest version of Software Carousel. It seems that,
when the palmtop is turned on or when I haven't task-switched in a while, it
takes SC a while to "rev up". After the inital delay, it switches pretty
quickly. I use the times2tech memory driver and my whole resource pool is
extended memory. I saw this with an older version and was hoping that it
went away with the new version. Could it be my version of the times2tech mem
driver? Anybody else see this ?


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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:16:02 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: pnr question
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

"R. Christopher Lott writes:
> Any way to display the e-mails' date in the messages view of PNR?

Not at the moment, but if you give me an idea of where you want it
to be put, then it might magically appear in the next release :-)

> Also, from what I have observed/read, the storage format for PNR
> folders is identical to that on a UNIX mailbox, except for the addition
> of four control-characters between each message.  Can someone confirm
> this?

That's correct.  It's actually the Unix MMDF format (an improvement on
the Unix mailbox format).  It's described in detail in the pnrfaq.txt
file, so that you can write other program to interface to it if you
wish (open source and full disclosure philosophy).

> If so, can a PNR folder be placed on a UNIX machine and read
> with native e-mail programs, or does one have to remove the control
> characters (using tr -d or similar) first?

If it's an email program that understands MMDF (like mh, or Emacs VM),
then yes.  I don't know if /bin/mail will read it (try it and see).

> Thanks,

You're welcome.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:45:18 -0600
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Disk utilities: keeping a file inventory
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The Simtel collections contain  index files
(eg:, simdos-l.zip) with one line descriptions
of the files. I download files like this whenever
I find them. A grep or maxfind search is then quick.
With the SUPER site, I save the main screen
as text (this would be more useful if it showed
the underlying *.zip file name.)
Many shareware *.zip files contain descriptions
(eg  *.diz,  readme.*, *.txt or *.doc) of the pgms.
A zip shell pgm such a shez109.zip (simtel) helps here.


Longden Loo wrote:

> This is a request for suggestions.
>
> How do other list members keep track of files on their system?
>
> I know executables usually (but not always) display a help message when executed
> with just "/?"... and most (but not all) ZIP files will have documentation.
>
> I'm particularly interested in documenting what my executable files are, as well
> as my directory of .ZIP files. Usually, after I've had these files on my system
> for a year or more and forget what they are or where they came from, a search of
> a nice text list with file notes would be handy. I'd like a "at a glance"
> approach to knowing what the files are.
>
> I once used a PC Magazine program called DIRNOTES (from Simtel, DIRNO120.ZIP),
> which displays a DIR style listing, but provides a field of about 40 chars to
> enter a note for each file. The list/comments are stored as a text file in the
> same directory and the each time you run DIRNOTES, it reads the file and updates
> the list in case the dates/sizes changed or in case files were added/deleted.
>
> The advantage is that it's quick, cheap and the text file is easy to print or
> copy.
>
> I'd like to see the ability to add more than 40 chars of info tho...plus the
> text file created by DIRNOTES seem to lose its information when I try to
> manually edit it. There may have been other quirky things...it's been a while.
>
> Does anyone have another method to recommend (of documenting the files on their
> system)? The less manual work, the better...meaning I don't want to have to key
> in the filenames I'm trying to document (and yes VI users, I know you can edit a
> text file and do a !!dir to get the directory listing into the file...but then
> subsequent updates are a nuisance...plus normal DIR lists eat up too much of the
> line).
>
> I also don't want to run a whole disk management system in order to do
> this...DIRNOTES is only 3k and it's not too far from what I want.
>
> - Longden
>
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How to keep track of stuff on the Palmtop....

In the past, I've used a  feature, similar to DIRNOTES , built into Stere=
o
Shell. =


Lately, however, I've been using NoteTaker with the Note field containing=

some of the documentation for executable files. The .NDB file is getting
quite large and I have yet to figure out a way to link the .EXE file name=
s
to the database file. I suppose an LXBatch file would let me do this, but=

the big question is: when to find the time to work on that.

.ed.

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On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:34:52 -0800, Longden Loo wrote:

>I once used a PC Magazine program called DIRNOTES (from Simtel, DIRNO120.ZIP),
>which displays a DIR style listing, but provides a field of about 40 chars to
>enter a note for each file. The list/comments are stored as a text file in the
>same directory and the each time you run DIRNOTES, it reads the file and updates
>the list in case the dates/sizes changed or in case files were added/deleted.
>
>I'd like to see the ability to add more than 40 chars of info tho...plus the
>text file created by DIRNOTES seem to lose its information when I try to
>manually edit it. There may have been other quirky things...it's been a while.

I used DIRNOTES a loooong time ago on my desktop.  I found 4DOS and
abandoned DIRNOTES.  4DOS will allow you to put a description on each
file, like DIRNOTES, but doesn't have the annoying disadvantages.  The
descriptions move along with the file when you copy/move.  You can opt
for long (er than 40 char) descriptions if you like.

4DOS has a lot of other advantages.  I haven't put it on my HP200 yet,
but am likely to do so soon for this very reason.

You can find out more about 4DOS at:  http://www.jpsoft.com

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I see a delay during the first swap after power on.  I thought
it was caused by accessing my flash card where my SC files
reside (I only have a 4Meg 200LX).

Russ

> I just started using the newest version of Software Carousel. It seems that,
> when the palmtop is turned on or when I haven't task-switched in a while, it
> takes SC a while to "rev up". After the inital delay, it switches pretty
> quickly. I use the times2tech memory driver and my whole resource pool is
> extended memory. I saw this with an older version and was hoping that it
> went away with the new version. Could it be my version of the times2tech mem
> driver? Anybody else see this ?

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Buddy does have a feature to show a topcard or text file with password
protection.  But I simply used my electric engraver and engraved my name
and phone number on the back of the unit, in the depression that is
meant for a name plaque.  If my phone number ever changes, then I'll go
ahead and get the plaque engraved and securely glue it over the old.
Not really elegant, but a simple and effective solution.

Besides, I figure that if the data on my palmtop is important enough to
password protect, then I'll have a backup of it somewhere, so, it
doesn't matter if the data gets nuked.

But if someone steals my palmtop, they will have bigger problems on
their hands than trying to get to my data!  I'm afraid that I would not
be very nice to them if I caught them!  And if I lost it, then I would
just have to kick myself for being such a dope!

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Just a suggestion: Perform the optimization (defrag). That speeds things up.

Ed Padin wrote:

> I just started using the newest version of Software Carousel. It seems that,
> when the palmtop is turned on or when I haven't task-switched in a while, it
> takes SC a while to "rev up". After the inital delay, it switches pretty
> quickly. I use the times2tech memory driver and my whole resource pool is
> extended memory. I saw this with an older version and was hoping that it
> went away with the new version. Could it be my version of the times2tech mem
> driver? Anybody else see this ?
>
> thanks.
>
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Well, he did say he uses the T2T extended memory, and while I don't use
SC, I know the T2T expanded memory initializes only in contiguous
disk space, so a defrag shouldn't be his problem...he's always going
to be swapping in and out of contiguous space.

FWIW, I never see a delay longer than two sec using MaxDOS and my T2T
driver on 1mb of expanded memory.

- Longden

   >Just a suggestion: Perform the optimization (defrag). That speeds
   >things up.

   >> I just started using the newest version of Software Carousel. It
   >>seems that,  when the palmtop is turned on or when I haven't
   >>task-switched in a while, it  takes SC a while to "rev up". After
   >>the inital delay, it switches pretty  quickly. I use the
   >>times2tech memory driver and my whole resource pool is  extended
   >>memory. I saw this with an older version and was hoping that it
   >>went away with the new version. Could it be my version of the
   >times2tech mem  driver? Anybody else see this ? >

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>went away with the new version. Could it be my version of the times2tech
mem
>driver? Anybody else see this ?

I have seen this myself and I can assure you it isn't the TREMM driver as
that is a passive driver and nothing in the code could cause such a delay.

I always assumed it was SC waiting for the right moment such as the InDOS
flag being turned off or something of that nature.

Cheers,
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On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:01:41 -0700, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> wrote:

 > Just a suggestion: Perform the optimization (defrag). That speeds things up.

Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
drive with an arm that has to move to the right place it
makes sense, but the access on the PCMCIA drive is
elecronic, no arm, so defragging is useless for
performance.

The SC carousel delays may not be SC's, but the initial
open of the A: drive by DOS' file system.

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>Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating


Hi Avi

Defrag Is needed for Jam and some other software to install correctly tho.

Russell

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
> drive with an arm that has to move to the right place it
> makes sense, but the access on the PCMCIA drive is
> elecronic, no arm, so defragging is useless for
> performance.

That is not strictly true.  There are certain situations where defragging a
solid-state drive can improve performance.  Under some circumstances, DOS or
an application will read ahead several sectors and place them in a buffer in
main memory, where they can be accessed faster.  Heavily fragmented drives
thrash sector read ahead techniques, thus degrading performance, as it's
unnecessarily reading ahead, getting data it doesn't need.  Whereas with an
unfragmented drive, the sector read-ahead would be very effective.

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
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On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Bruce Francis wrote:

> I used DIRNOTES a loooong time ago on my desktop.  I found 4DOS and
> abandoned DIRNOTES.  4DOS will allow you to put a description on each
> file, like DIRNOTES, but doesn't have the annoying disadvantages.  The
> descriptions move along with the file when you copy/move.  You can opt
> for long (er than 40 char) descriptions if you like.
>
> 4DOS has a lot of other advantages.  I haven't put it on my HP200 yet,
> but am likely to do so soon for this very reason.

I can also vouch for 4DOS.  The latest version (6.01A) has a *lot* of good
stuff in it.

First off, to clear some things up, 4DOS is a COMMAND.COM replacement.  It
"feels" a lot closer to bash (a standard Unix shell), but with some
improvements that make it invaluable on the palmtop.

Frist, of course, you get filename descriptions which are automatically
handled by 4DOS.  When you copy or move a file in 4DOS, the description
moves with it.  It's very handy and very well done.

Second,t there's automatic command history (like DOSKEY), as well as a
window that can be popped up to list same history.  It's akin to rightshift
CMD on the HP48.

Third, there's extensive keyboard shortcuts.  You can alias commands so
that, for example typing "cat" could actually run "type" (which is VERY
handy for us Unix junkies. :)  The command "cd" becomes superfluous, as you
can type "toys\" to mean "cd toys".  There is filename completion, as in
bash, so that typing "bl<tab>" might produce "blah.txt".  The window-based
analog of Tab can be had by hitting F7, which brings up a small window
listing the possible files.

Hmm.. what else?  There's always extensive context-sensitive help available
by hitting F1 at the prompt... there's an extended batch file format called
BTM.  Oh yeah.  4DOS has extensive capabilities for swapping in and out of
memory.  This frees up a *lot* of space when running big programs, as 4DOS
shrinks to something ridiculous like 2K when swapped out.  It will swap to
the RAM disk or EMS (or even a flash card, if you don't mind the slower
speed when swapping out.)

Well, I think I've rambled more than long enough.  My fingers are starting
to get sore, and I can't see a darned thing anyway with this light.  The
only thing that's functioning perfectly is LXTelnet. :)

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
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Hi C;

Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
collects yor money
and don't send out the goods.

yor pal al.....................


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I am upgrading a little program that I wrote in QBASIC for my HP 200 and
I would like to convert it to VB.
Does anybody have VB for DOS they would sell or can anyone suggest where
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Get a clue and stop posting crap like this to the list.

- Joe
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>Hi C;
>
>Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
>collects yor money
>and don't send out the goods.
>
>yor pal al.....................
>
>
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Al,

for what it's worth.

ebay doesn't collect your money at all. You make private arrangements with
the seller. ebay gets a fee from the seller for providing the facilities to
conduct the auction.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
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Hi C;

Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
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and don't send out the goods.

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Hi Everyone

Can any of you programming gurus answer this question? Does anyone know if its
possible to call a high level word as a subroutine from assembly code? If this
is the word: : DISPLAY ." Test" ; is it possible to use something like JMP, or
CALL, to run it? Something like CODE Ý'¨ DISPLAY #, CALL, END-CODE? How would
you return it? Thanks

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Hi there you all, I'm selling the following:

    1.. 2 - HP 200 lx 2 Megs in ram models, not upgraded in
    Any way, one almost new, both with manuals,

    2.. One connectivity pack including the cable,=20
    3.. One palm connect software to work under windows 3.1,
    4.. One serial to parallel printer cable,=20
    5.. One 14400 BPS megahertz modem,=20
    6.. About 30 HP Palmtop paper magazines,=20
    7.. About 7 diskettes with software from Thaddeus,=20
    8.. A PC in your pocket book,
    9.. A lotus 1-2-3 Microref book,=20
    10.. A PC/MS-DOS Microref book,
    11.. A 1-2-3 for Dummies,=20
    12.. A neoprene case for one of them,=20
    13.. A 512 KB card with a doublecard program disk
    14.. A Quick view program disk,=20
    15.. Original software windows ver 3.0=20
Will not separate; will consider an even trade for a hp 360 lx with =
docking cradle and software to communicate with a PC. =20

Please respond to me privatelly=20

TIA

Arturo


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    <LI>One serial to parallel printer cable, </LI>
    <LI>One 14400 BPS megahertz modem, </LI>
    <LI>About 30 HP Palmtop paper magazines, </LI>
    <LI>About 7 diskettes with software from Thaddeus, </LI>
    <LI>A PC in your pocket book,</LI>
    <LI>A lotus 1-2-3 Microref book, </LI>
    <LI>A PC/MS-DOS Microref book,</LI>
    <LI>A 1-2-3 for Dummies, </LI>
    <LI>A neoprene case for one of them, </LI>
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I purchase leather tools and other things from them regularly and have NEVER
had any problems....always received what I bid on.   I guess you can always
have problems, but I haven't and will continue to bid on items.

Cathy

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:13:59 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: SC initial delay issue.

Thank you all for the feedback. I did try defrag but it didn't change it. I
also run SC from my 32MB C: drive so I don't know about the flash card
issues. It's not a big deal but I thought I'd ask to see if I was doing
something wrong. It seems that it's something you have to live with.


Later.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Butler Ýmailto:ian@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 3:53 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ SC initial delay issue.
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:
>
> > Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
> > drive with an arm that has to move to the right place it
> > makes sense, but the access on the PCMCIA drive is
> > elecronic, no arm, so defragging is useless for
> > performance.
>
> That is not strictly true.  There are certain situations
> where defragging a
> solid-state drive can improve performance.  Under some
> circumstances, DOS or
> an application will read ahead several sectors and place them
> in a buffer in
> main memory, where they can be accessed faster.  Heavily
> fragmented drives
> thrash sector read ahead techniques, thus degrading
> performance, as it's
> unnecessarily reading ahead, getting data it doesn't need.
> Whereas with an
> unfragmented drive, the sector read-ahead would be very effective.
>
> Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
> Peace love sunshine Volkswagen
>
> "Two thousand people in a seething, roaring, shouting mass!"
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:08:51 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: Visual basic for DOS wanted to buy.
Comments: To: Flyers@xtra.co.nz
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I have a copy of VB for DOS 1.0 that will run on the 200LX.

I'd consider selling it, but the manuals and packaging is a brick (several
pounds)!  Say, $20US and buyer pays shipping.

I can only guess that shipping to New Zealand would cost more than the
software's worth, and maybe more than you'd want to pay for converting a little
program.

- Longden





Flyers <Flyers@XTRA.CO.NZ> on 01/03/97 12:52:13 PM

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Subject:  Re: Visual basic for DOS wanted to buy.




I am upgrading a little program that I wrote in QBASIC for my HP 200 and
I would like to convert it to VB.
Does anybody have VB for DOS they would sell or can anyone suggest where
I might get it please?
Duncan Kellie.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:21:26 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I just downloaded the trial version from their website, and I'll have a look at
it (30 days).

Does anyone using 4DOS know where the long file descriptions are maintained?

Sounds like good stuff, but frankly it'll be hard to convince a tightwad like me
to fork over $70 for a command.com replacement...mostly so I can document my
infrequently used files.

I'm already using DOSKEY, and so already have command history and aliasing (but
no filename completion). It appears to have a lot of batch file processing
enhancements, but I'm commited (by work) to use Rexx which offers similar
enhancements (if not better).

I read (and appreciate the detail from listers) that the benefits go far beyond
that...maybe it'll make a good Father's Day present <g>.

Usually the faults of a product are more telling than the benefits. Are there
any downsides to using 4DOS (aside from cost)?

- Longden





Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> on 03/02/99 01:08:52 AM

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Subject:  Re: Disk utilities: keeping a file inventory




On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Bruce Francis wrote:

> I used DIRNOTES a loooong time ago on my desktop.  I found 4DOS and
> abandoned DIRNOTES.  4DOS will allow you to put a description on each
> file, like DIRNOTES, but doesn't have the annoying disadvantages.  The
> descriptions move along with the file when you copy/move.  You can opt
> for long (er than 40 char) descriptions if you like.
>
> 4DOS has a lot of other advantages.  I haven't put it on my HP200 yet,
> but am likely to do so soon for this very reason.

I can also vouch for 4DOS.  The latest version (6.01A) has a *lot* of good
stuff in it.

<snipped *lot* of good stuff>

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:39:33 -0800
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Subject:      Re: EBay site
Comments: To: CSchlim@AOL.COM
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I made two purchases from EBay, and while the first was definitely a pleasant
experience (a special "FeatherWeight" sewing table for my wife shipped from
Seattle, Washington to California), the second was less so (a digital camera
shipped from only 200 miles away).

The camera arrived weeks after I sent the check and then didn't include all the
pieces advertised (the "original" box, various cables and software).
Fortunately, all the pieces I needed were included...but I would've wanted ALL
the pieces in case I ever intended to resell the camera.

Some email was exchanged with the seller, who typically took days to respond,
with his apologies and a lame excuse and a promise to followup by sending the
missing pieces (which he never did). I eventually went back to EBay and logged a
negative response against him...really your only recourse at EBay when you're
unhappy with the deal, but don't want to pursue legal options.

Just wanted to give the other point of view. Definitely a wild and wooly place
to buy and sell...but buyer beware.... I'd now prefer to make purchases via
online shops for anything of significant value.

- Longden





Cathy Schilm <CSchlim@AOL.COM> on 03/02/99 07:06:52 AM

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Subject:  Re: EBay site




I purchase leather tools and other things from them regularly and have NEVER
had any problems....always received what I bid on.   I guess you can always
have problems, but I haven't and will continue to bid on items.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:52:48 -0700
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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

>3.  Would like to see a vertical reader-type application for Hebrew.  Aside
>from the sheer manual input of any Hebrew text I was hoping in some way not
>to have to re-create the wheel./

Vertical Reader by Gilles Kohl on SUPER was made to handle
different fonts. I imagine a hebrew font would have to be
designed and the executable be modified to handle hebrew encoding
and the writing direction. Gilles?
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:04:05 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Hi,

I buy stuff from Ebay.  I have probably made a dozen transactions so far,
and I can say I haven't been cheated yet  ( touch wood ) , but you must be
careful with who you deal with.

There have been times when communicaiton with the seller was "less than "
professional.  Some transactions are great, and some transactions have
problems like taking a long time to ship.

If you have problems...by all means register negative feedback, but I would
really make that a "last resort".  I mean , if your idea of untimely
shippment is 4 weeks, I would agree, but if it is 1 week, I would say that
it is too soon to file a report.  Just use your best judgement.

I recommend that you use the "view seller's feedback" to see if you think
you can trust the seller.  I check their feedback and if ... say ... they
have 100 entries of which there are only 1 or 2 bad ones ( some people are
habitual complainers anyway and as such do not really reflect the sellers
character ) , then I think it's O.K., but if the negatives are higher than
1% or 2% then I steer clear of that seller.

If I have a sucessful transaction, I report positive feedback for the seller
( I am often asked by the seller to do this ) .  I also expect the seller to
also do the same for me.


I hope this helps....any questions, please email me off-list.

Good Luck,
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:43:38 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Magnify with DOS

Hi all,

I've always wondered about these "magnify" modes vs. zoom.

The thing that's always made me shy away from zoom is that you jump back and
forth in a word processing screen Ýand I hate that¨.  This *almost* made me
go to a 600-series LX because, in its scaled-down version of Word, you can
type with VERY big text and see all the words, as if you were typing on a
two-column page, and had only one column on the screen Ýthen it prints as a
'normal' page¨.

I've noticed that the upgraded version of Post/LX (2.2a) lets you zoom AND
it also reformats the text in email messages you are reading.  This adds
word-wrap at the right spot Ýwell, it does break *some* things awkwardly¨.
How could this be applied to things like Memo?   <<or does "magnify" work
this way in memo and I need to start downloading right away?!?!?>>  I like
bigger than average text but hate the jumping back and forth.

--tim

Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
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-----Original Message-----
From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 3:20 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Magnify with DOS


On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:27:11 +0000, Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
wrote:

 > According to the supplier's web site, the "Magnify" software won't work
 > in DOS when Fn + spacebar works to zoom the screen. It says it only
 > works with the LX's built - in apps and DOS programmes where Fn +
 > spacebar zoom doesn't work.
 >
 > Has anyone come up with a way around this?

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:08:21 -0700
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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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Some people have made comments about using things like mailing
labels to put on the back of the palmtops. I just wanted to
re-iterate a good suggestion I found on this list: electronic
label makers.

One day, I walked on over to my local Office Depot and saw that
they had those Casio label makers on display. The label tape they
use is just the right width. I took about 20 minutes to figure
how to run the thing, manipulate fonts, etc. Later, I got a nice
3 line label with hopefully enough info to be successfully
returned.

I made two labels: one for my palmtop and another for my hp48.
:)
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:13:17 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Disk utilities: keeping a file inventory
In-Reply-To:  <88256728.00547388.00@candle.com> from "Longden Loo" at Mar 2,
              99 07:21:26 am
Content-Type: text

Logden:

> Sounds like good stuff, but frankly it'll be hard to convince a tightwad like me
> to fork over $70 for a command.com replacement...mostly so I can document my
> infrequently used files.

I agree with you there.

> I'm already using DOSKEY, and so already have command history and aliasing (but
> no filename completion).

I use CMDEDIT, originally a PCTOOLS utility, that has been enhanced
some over the years.  If you want, I can dig up the place I downloaded
it from and/or send you a zip file.  It worked also on my Win95 home
computer, and it works most of the time on my NT system (I have a special
DOS icon just for running a CMDEDIT session - there are a few rare
instances where I also need to run a plain DOS session).  However, I
cannot get it to run on my new Win98 home computer.  Bummer.  At least
NT offers built-in filename completion - Win98 doesn't (that I can find).

-Chris


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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:23:37 -0800
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Could someone point me to the registration page for
this news server.

Please email direct to me. I'm set to digest & would like
to register asap.

Don.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> Could someone point me to the registration page for this news server.
>
> Please email direct to me. I'm set to digest & would like to register
> asap.

The registration page is at http://news.hplx.net.

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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      Re: EBay site
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They don't sell anything! They collect a 2-5% commission
on transactions. If you stick with people with good feedback
ratings, I think its the safest way to buy on the net.
But some deals are too good to be true - Office 97 PRO
for $25 might well be counterfeit.
Prices get too high sometime (use www.pricewatch.com).
Using their search of open/recent auctions is a good way
to price items, eg. old camera equipment.

al chin wrote:

> Hi C;
>
> Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
> collects yor money
> and don't send out the goods.
>
> yor pal al.....................
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:33:44 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Phone.pdb won't sort

Alan Peres writes:
> I rem'd the line in autoexec.bat calling KEYBEZ and rebooted the computer.
> Of course, the sort function in PHONE.PDB now appears to work correctly!
> Does anyone know why this may be happening?

Yep! Aside from some other wonderful things (like displaying Hebrew) keybez
also redefines the sort order according to  the "font" you have loaded! If
you look inside the *.kit file, I think that something is mentioned there
about this. If you use Hebrew for names in the phone book, it will also mangle
the quick search feature. The moral is either use keybez ALL the time or only
load it in the batch file for qtext and then remove it. I use it ALL the time
and have no hassles sorting my databases

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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Keybez remove, how?
Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net

Dear Avi,

sponsor@ftel.net writes:
> I know how to add the .FON and .KIT files (run keybez he)
> but by remove you mean take out the files from C:\?
Oops! I think I did it once with mark & replace, but now I use keybez
all the time.

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>Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
>drive with an arm that has to move to the right place it
>makes sense, but the access on the PCMCIA drive is
>elecronic, no arm, so defragging is useless for
>performance.
>
>The SC carousel delays may not be SC's, but the initial
>open of the A: drive by DOS' file system.
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>


I agree that from a performance point of view there is no gain in speed
by defragging. But to get Jam to work on my Hp 700 I had to defrag the
c/a drive.

Thought you would like to know



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How do you access it???? It is not one of my available newsgroups.

Cathy

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Cathy Schilm wrote:

> How do you access it???? It is not one of my available newsgroups.

news.hplx.net is not a newsgroup.  It is a news server.  If you set your
server to news.hplx.net, you can then select from among the various groups
that are on that server.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:31:21 -0500
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              Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM>
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HP360LX: Been there, done that...  Fun, interesting at first, but then
the lack of functionality, menuitis, and hourly replacement/recharging
of
the batteries gets to you...  It's OK if you want a big organizer,
but if you need a pocket computer, stick with the LX.  I had
as similar experience with the Casio E-10 WinCE palm-sized PC as well.

I've done some embedded system programmming using WinCE too.
Didn't care for that either.

Bill Schell
bill@bell-labs.com

WinCE: just say no

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Date:         Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:19:47 +1300
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From:         Flyers <Flyers@XTRA.CO.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Visual basic for DOS wanted to buy.
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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> I have a copy of VB for DOS 1.0 that will run on the 200LX.
>
> I'd consider selling it, but the manuals and packaging is a brick (several
> pounds)!  Say, $20US and buyer pays shipping.
>
> I can only guess that shipping to New Zealand would cost more than the
> software's worth, and maybe more than you'd want to pay for converting a little
> program.
>
> - Longden
>
> Flyers <Flyers@XTRA.CO.NZ> on 01/03/97 12:52:13 PM
>
> Please respond to Flyers@xtra.co.nz
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
> Subject:  Re: Visual basic for DOS wanted to buy.
>
> I am upgrading a little program that I wrote in QBASIC for my HP 200 and
> I would like to convert it to VB.
> Does anybody have VB for DOS they would sell or can anyone suggest where
> I might get it please?
> Duncan Kellie.
>
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Longden, thank you for your response.
Despite the shipping costs I may still be interested.
You say that it is VB 1.0 DOS.
Do you knw how many versions came out?
Are you saying that V 1.0 is the only one that runs on HPLX200?
You are in Australia aren't you? Or am I mixing you with someone else?
Thanks.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:32:38 -0800
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Just wanted to share this: I just finished manipulating a
huge file 5.9MB with PE. It has over 158,000 line. It took
a few moment to save, but otherwise not a bit was lost.

This is my outmail (since September through Feb 28. I added
it to the previous archive, and the resulting file is
5.9MB.

Post/LX took a few moments to reword the indes and then
just opened it with no prolems. I can get to the last item
with almost instant access time. I even deleted some of the
overlapping messages (March 1 ones) and it only took about
25 seconds to pack them out and redo the index.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:57:39 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: EBay site

al chin writes:
> Hi C;
>
> Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
> collects yor money
> and don't send out the goods.


I have used E-bay a couple of times with no problems.

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:28:11 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I have the following for sale:  I'm keeping a 100 LX I have, converting
(mainly) to Omnibook 800CT.

HP200LX dbl speed 5 meg snSG607... (small crack repaired with PVC pipe
cement over a year ago, no sign of re-appearing, repair not very
noticeable, no missing pixels, nothing else wrong with machine), with Manuals
2 X Serial Cables
AC/Adapter F1011A
40 mb Simple Tech card STI-ATAFL/40
Smart Fax/Modem/Memory card ST1424FMM 2400 baud data/14.4 fax send, 9600
fax receive (no book, but works)
10 mb HP Card F1013A
10 mb Sundisk Card FMW01SD3
28.8 Cardinal PCMCIA Modem
Newton Keyboard with cable
WWW/LX software
Time Tracker Software
Software Carousel v. 7XX
PC In Your Pocket
1-2-3 Pocket Reference
Microref DOS v.5
Microsoft MS DOS 5.0 Reference
WordPerfect 5.1 (with manuals and diskettes)
WordPerfect 5.1 Instant Reference
Microsoft Word 5.5 with Manuals
Microsoft Works 1.05 and 3.0 (can't find manuals)
Various WordPerfect 3rd party books
Stacker 4.0 with Manuals
Diconix 180i Serial Printer and A/C adapter
Leather Wallet (well used but functional)

Asking $750, prefer selling as a bundle.  Please reply offline.


tia,

Claud

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:37:15 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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From:         Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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> I copied a short part of the Palmtop Circuit user's manual back
> on 6th October 1998 and sent to HPLX-L list. You can find it:
> <www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/october.mail/0233.html>

I have a hunch they mighn't be willing to sell it for the simple reason
that it may not exist!
(I go out on a limb on this one, since "the truth is out there!")
Looking at the spec it seems that Orcad, Spice and Probe suddenly rolled
into one and installed effortlessly on a 512k palmtop....
My experience with all the aforementioned on the LX is that you carry them
because of the cool-factor and not because it is the most efficient way to
analyse a circuit. Spice on the LX may take hours, and whilst that educates
your soul to patience in a Budhist sort of way, it also is a real
productivity killer.

I will (I am repeating myself here) gladly pay top bucks for a connectivity
tool to rival my friends 3Com devices, but doubt that the LX will ever be a
useful simulation platform.
Sorry to sound like a killjoy, but I get a bit frustrated reading on the
list about all sorts of esoteric solutions whereas the single most useful
productivity app is missing...

(sob) from
Paul Rasmussen

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:53:17 -0800
Reply-To:     Tom Sanko <tomsanko@worldnet.att.net>
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From:         Tom Sanko <tomsanko@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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I have a 64MB, double speed 200LX upgraded by Thaddeus. The upgrade is
about two months old (at least it's still under warranty!). This
morning while using a DOS program, the display went squirrelly when I
tried to close the program. I rebooted with CTRL-ALT-DEL and received
error messages: "drive check failed" and "no drives swapped" and "swap
file not found." I responded "no" when it asked "initialize T2T
drive?" and ended at a c:\ prompt.

When I ran TRCHECK.COM, the program reported no errors in the chips
(#s 1--2MB, 3--32MB, and 4--32MB) using all 3 test options. I can
start System Manager by typing "100", but the palmtop no longer
recognizes the 64MB drive.

I would like to avoid sending the unit back or initializing the 64MB
drive, but I have a recent backup if initializing is a way to correct
the problem. Can any of you experts out there help me?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Tom Sanko

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:02:52 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: news.hplx.net
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.05.9903021033250.2478-100000@home.hplx.net> from
              "David Sargeant" at Mar 2, 99 10:34:01 am
Content-Type: text

> news.hplx.net is not a newsgroup.  It is a news server.  If you set your
> server to news.hplx.net, you can then select from among the various groups
> that are on that server.

I've just registered, and the message said it will take a few hours to
take effect.  In the meantime, I tried to learn how to make my news
reader (tin) point to a different NNTP server.  I figured that out
easy enough, but I can see no option in the tin command line options
or setup files where I can specify the username and password.  Has anyone
else gotten tin working with this password-protected news server?

-Chris


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R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:13:29 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: About Palmtop Circuit for the LX.
In-Reply-To:  <199903022101.WAA09323@d1o203.telia.com> from "Paal Rasmussen" at
              Mar 2, 99 09:37:15 pm
Content-Type: text

> Sorry to sound like a killjoy, but I get a bit frustrated reading on the
> list about all sorts of esoteric solutions whereas the single most useful
> productivity app is missing...

Paul:

You're free to use your palmtop as best suits you.  You're correct, that
using the palmtop to analyze a serious circuit would be frustrating and
inefficient.  But there are many times when I'd like to do some quick and
dirty analysis of a simple circuit, and would love to have the capability
on my palmtop.  I can already test out algorithms in C or Fortran, draw
schematics in OrCAD, do geometrical solutions in AutoCAD (R10), analyze
control systems problems, like bode plots, with CC, and many more great
engineering applications.  As I am an engineer, this is a truly useful
tool for me.

I'm sorry that no one has developed a connectivity solution that meets
your needs, but please don't be frustrated that I'm enjoying my palmtop
by running various and useful engineering applications that help me in
my work.

-Chris


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Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:32:01 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I've just registered, and the message said it will take a few hours to
> take effect.  In the meantime, I tried to learn how to make my news
> reader (tin) point to a different NNTP server.  I figured that out
> easy enough, but I can see no option in the tin command line options
> or setup files where I can specify the username and password.  Has
> anyone else gotten tin working with this password-protected news
> server?

Your request should have been processed by now.  <g>

I'm not terribly familiar with tin, but I haven't been able to make it do
authentication either.  I've had better luck with Pine's news client, at
least in the 4.xx versions, but that may not suit your needs.  Maybe
somebody who knows tin better than me knows a secret for authentication?

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:43:29 -0800
Reply-To:     dr7zyq@nidlink.com
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From:         David Rogers <dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM>
Organization: is one cool dude!
Subject:      Re: For sale
Comments: To: Arturo Galindo <agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM>
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I have a 360LX, exc. with all original manuals, software, cradle, etc.
in the box that I might be willing to swap.  You say one of the 200LX's
is almost new -- how about the other?

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

Arturo Galindo wrote:
>
> Hi there you all, I'm selling the following:
>
>   1. 2 - HP 200 lx 2 Megs in ram models, not upgraded in
>
>      Any way, one almost new, both with manuals,
>
>   2. One connectivity pack including the cable,
>   3. One palm connect software to work under windows 3.1,
>   4. One serial to parallel printer cable,
>   5. One 14400 BPS megahertz modem,
>   6. About 30 HP Palmtop paper magazines,
>   7. About 7 diskettes with software from Thaddeus,
>   8. A PC in your pocket book,
>   9. A lotus 1-2-3 Microref book,
>  10. A PC/MS-DOS Microref book,
>  11. A 1-2-3 for Dummies,
>  12. A neoprene case for one of them,
>  13. A 512 KB card with a doublecard program disk
>  14. A Quick view program disk,
>  15. Original software windows ver 3.0
>
> Will not separate; will consider an even trade for a hp 360 lx with
> docking cradle and software to communicate with a PC.
>
> Please respond to me privatelly
>
> TIA
>
> Arturo

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:39:23 -0600
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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All,

I recently posted an HP95lx 512k, connection cable, case for sale here on
the
list as well as in a couple of newsgroups, but have had a somewhat
lackluster
response.

My price of $125 was set based primarily on ebay where I saw a few of these
go
for $100 to $155 without the connection cable, but im curious if the price
is too high
so what do you folks think a HP95lx should sell for today?

I really want to sell this direct and avoid the headache of dealing with
ebay auctions. <g>

Dan Ridenhour
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:46:42 -0700
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              HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
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Subject:      Re: EBay site
Comments: To: speters@kdsi.net
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     Hi!
     I have bought several thing and no problems. I got Micr$oft Office
     professional for $24.50, shipping included. not bad. Now I am a
     registered owner. Got a H-P scanner for $50.00 new.

     Helmut in Colorado


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: EBay site
Author:  Non-HP-speters (speters@kdsi.net) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    3/2/99 9:48 AM


They don't sell anything! They collect a 2-5% commission
on transactions. If you stick with people with good feedback
ratings, I think its the safest way to buy on the net.
But some deals are too good to be true - Office 97 PRO
for $25 might well be counterfeit.
Prices get too high sometime (use www.pricewatch.com).
Using their search of open/recent auctions is a good way
to price items, eg. old camera equipment.

al chin wrote:

> Hi C;
>
> Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
> collects yor money
> and don't send out the goods.
>
> yor pal al.....................
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:56:10 -0700
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              scott smith <ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET>
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This is for the xl ham operators out there... i have a hp95lx and would like
to know a packet program that will fit on my 512k palmtop. I reconfigured
the built-in COMM program "Genie" to work on my kpc3, but i sure there is a
program out there that can work better. Scott
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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:05:49 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:13:29 -0600, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> please don't be frustrated that I'm enjoying my palmtop
> by running various and useful engineering applications that help me in
> my work.

For about the past 2 months my LX has been my _only_ computer since I had a
HD problem on my desktop. The LX has served me well and I find that I only
miss the desktop about 10% of the time. My interest in the palmtop circuit
software is that it would allow me to play with different circuits for
amateur radio projects. Since I am trying to live without a desktop the
circuit software would be welcomed addition to my palmtop. By the way, are
there any hams on the list that are running any antenna designing software
on the LX and if so, what are you using?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:37:43 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: packet program
In-Reply-To:  <19990302225622Z81328-9051+21@eeyore.eon.net> from "scott smith"
              at Mar 2, 99 03:56:10 pm
Content-Type: text

>
> This is for the xl ham operators out there... i have a hp95lx and would like
> to know a packet program that will fit on my 512k palmtop. I reconfigured
> the built-in COMM program "Genie" to work on my kpc3, but i sure there is a
> program out there that can work better. Scott

Scott:

Doesn't the HP95 have a built-in comm program, like the 100/200 do?
Seems like that would be the lowest memory approach.

-Chris Lott
 WD4OLP

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:01:04 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@diku.dk>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: Disk utilities: keeping a file inventory
In-Reply-To:  <88256728.00547388.00@candle.com>
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I just downloaded the trial version from their website, and I'll have a look at
> it (30 days).
>
> Does anyone using 4DOS know where the long file descriptions are maintained?

Each directory has a textfile called descript.ion. It has the format
(IIRC):

filename description

(ie filename and description on the same line, seperated by a space)

> Sounds like good stuff, but frankly it'll be hard to convince a tightwad like me
> to fork over $70 for a command.com replacement...mostly so I can document my
> infrequently used files.

True, it is fairly expensive, but once you try it you're hooked, believe
me :-). Earlier versions of Norton Utilities (6 and 7 at least) used to
command with a licensed version of 4DOS, called NDOS. Getting an old
version of Norton Utilities may be cheaper than buying the newest 4DOS,
although obviously you don't get as many features.

Also, JPSoft may have an upgrade path for NDOS users, so that buying an
old version of NU and upgrading to the newest 4DOS may be cheaper than
$70. (This was just a wild guess)

> I'm already using DOSKEY, and so already have command history and aliasing (but
> no filename completion). It appears to have a lot of batch file processing
> enhancements, but I'm commited (by work) to use Rexx which offers similar
> enhancements (if not better).

It has special support for Rexx, in that any file ending with .rx will
automatically be run using Rexx. I also think that any batch file starting
with '/* */' on the first line will be run using Rexx, but I'm not sure.

It can do similar things with other languages using environment variables
- I use "set .PL=perl -w", which means that when I execute a file ending
with .pl it will automatically run it with 'perl -w'. This gives you the
same functionality as the hashbang (#!) operator under UNIX.

> Usually the faults of a product are more telling than the benefits. Are there
> any downsides to using 4DOS (aside from cost)?

Although it is hard to believe, the program doesn't really have any major
flaws.

There are some minor ones, such as that swapping to disk on a singlespeed
LX is slow. You can live with it, but if you go back to using command.com
again you'll realise just how slow it is.
Depending on your background in UNIX shells, you may or may not like its
filename completion, as the princible is somewhat different from the one
in tcsh (it will cycle through matches instead of just stop when it cannot
complete more of the filename).

Finally, it doesn't support UNIX style backticks ``, which I really miss.
(for those that do not know what backticks are for, under UNIX the shell
will evaluate the command placed between two ``s and then replace it with
the string which the command returns)


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:11:23 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks,

This is the url for the free HP200LX to Lotus
Organizer 2.1 exchange link utility.

One really nice thing about it is you can import
and export to local files.
So it is usefull even if you use a pcmcia card
instead of the cable to transfer files.

ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/zq6t00a.exe



--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:29:45 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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>
>
> > I used DIRNOTES a loooong time ago on my desktop.
Was someone looking for this?

--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:36:22 -0800
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Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I recently posted an HP95lx 512k, connection cable, case for sale here on
> the
> list as well as in a couple of newsgroups, but have had a somewhat
> lackluster
> response.
>
> My price of $125 was set based primarily on ebay where I saw a few of these
> go
> for $100 to $155 without the connection cable, but im curious if the price
> is too high
> so what do you folks think a HP95lx should sell for today?
>
> I really want to sell this direct and avoid the headache of dealing with
> ebay auctions. <g>
>
> Dan Ridenhour
> driden@stlnet.com
>
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Try around $75.00 and through in the cable $15.00 total $95.00

I pick up a HP95LX 1MB With manuals 75.00 for my second unit, thinking
to buy another
for my son in school(not college yet)

                   Bob Elliott Jr

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:46:26 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

Does anyone know what section HPLX will be in if the proposed split of HP
goes ahead?

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:05:46 +0100
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It should be at the computing section since the other one will be focused
on test&measurement devices.




Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> on 03.03.99 10:46:26

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Hi all

Does anyone know what section HPLX will be in if the proposed split of HP
goes ahead?

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:00:44 GMT
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              "d.hertrich" <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Avi and list!

--------------------------
To Avi:

I now read the Post/LX help and I found it's great how much
functionality there is in the program! If I didn't read the
help, I haven't realized the most of the amazing features
such as storing incoming messages in a special folder depending
on from where the message comes (very helpful for the mails
from HPLX-List!).
But I still have two questions. I posted them to the list because
one of them seemed to me not to be a problem in Post/LX but
rather a problem with my ISP.

--------------------------

I've got two problems with POST/LX 2.2a:

(1) Sometimes I try to connect to my ISP using F5 (online)
    I get a connection but after the message "connection
    establshed" the program pauses a while (about half a
    minute) and then the window of Post/LX appears with
    the message "waiting from hello from server". Here it
    stops. I must press Ctrl to interrupt this an then
    Post/LX hangs up the modem and reports an online error.
    If I try to connect once more, it everytime works at the
    second attempt and I get my connection in seconds!
    Maybe this is a problem with my ISP? It's NOT the problem
    that the ISP the first time I try to connect is too busy
    or something like that: this had to be a very improbable
    coincidence!

(2) In the Post/LX help is described how to archive messages:
    Starting Post/LX with the option -a and so on.
    What inhibits me to do it another way:
    - Add a new folder (say 'Archive')
    - Specify directory 'a:\_dat\wwwlx' to save it there
    - Connecting, receiving mail, disconnecting
    - remove PCMCIA modem, insert flash card
    - go to inbox, mark messages to archive, move them
      to 'archive' folder
    ?
    This procedure was easier for me because I don't
    want to archive a whole inbox or outbox but rather
    single messages with important informations.

    Is there any problem when starting WWW/LX with the
    modem inserted (= the directory of the 'archive'
    folder is not available)?


Thanks for every little help,
GTX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:32:43 +0100
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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Just fyi, over two years ago I bought my 1MB 95lx with a 1MB sram card and
connectivity pack for $55.  Sold it later for 500 french francs and bought
a 200lx.

Thaddeus has them for $119

Good luck
jez

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:24:15 -0500
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Hi,

     At work we just got a Viking Components
56K PC Card Modem for a laptop.  I tried it
with my 200LX and it seems to work well.  A
very trivial test of dialing out (don't have
any particular place to call).

Steve

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:33:54 -0600
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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I'm seen quite a few people posting questions about using their HPs with
packet programs.  Does anyone have a quickie answer or URL about just
what this is?  I have a vague idea of what ham radio operators do, but
am baffled at how a computer fits into it.

Just curious...

Terry Owen
home: owen6511@earthlink.net
work: towen@quintrex.com

> ----------
> From:         R. Christopher LottÝSMTP:rclott@RO.COM¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; R. Christopher Lott
> Sent:         Tuesday, March 02, 1999 5:37 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: packet program
>
> >
> > This is for the xl ham operators out there... i have a hp95lx and
> would like
> > to know a packet program that will fit on my 512k palmtop. I
> reconfigured
> > the built-in COMM program "Genie" to work on my kpc3, but i sure
> there is a
> > program out there that can work better. Scott
>
> Scott:
>
> Doesn't the HP95 have a built-in comm program, like the 100/200 do?
> Seems like that would be the lowest memory approach.
>
> -Chris Lott
>  WD4OLP
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:57:26 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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From:         "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: packet program
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I have an old PacTerm program from Kantronics that I use.
I got it with my KPC1 in source code and have kept a copy
since I upgraded to KPC3 and KAM. It has a split screen and
is very small only 5135 bytes in size which is why I like it.
I think you can download a version from Kantronics web site.



Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: scott smith ÝSMTP:ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 17:56
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      packet program
>
> This is for the xl ham operators out there... i have a hp95lx and would
> like
> to know a packet program that will fit on my 512k palmtop. I reconfigured
> the built-in COMM program "Genie" to work on my kpc3, but i sure there is
> a
> program out there that can work better. Scott
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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:59:28 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:33:54 -0600, Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> wrote:

> I'm seen quite a few people posting questions about using their HPs with
> packet programs.  Does anyone have a quickie answer or URL about just
> what this is?  I have a vague idea of what ham radio operators do, but
> am baffled at how a computer fits into it.

The easiest way for me to explain packet is that it's networking without
wires, using amateur radio frequencies. I can even surf the net (although
quite slowly) using my LX a radio and a radio modem (TNC). I can also upload
and download digital messages to amateur satellites and the Mir Space
Station. The most popular amateur protocol is AX.25 which is a variation of
X.25, there are also other protocols. One of the newer uses of packet is
APRS (automatic packet reporting system) which allows amateurs to plot their
positions on a map, in real time. It's really quite fascinating. I suggest
that you browse http://www.arrl.org  the American Radio Relay Leauge for
more info.

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:30:16 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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Hi all!

I've tried to set up 4DOS on my 32meg DS machine, with a shell command
in my config.sys pointing to drive C:. Problem is, it cannot find 4dos
on c:, I am forced to pop in my flash card (which has another copy of
4dos) before it will boot.

I think what is happening, is when the config.sys is executing, drive
c: doesn't exist yet (until the T2T driver runs) and the config.sys
exits.

Is anyone else running 4dos on their DS machine from the c: drive, and
how do you do it?

TIA,
Mike...

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:49:37 -0500
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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<<Is anyone else running 4dos on their DS machine from the c: drive, and
how do you do it?>>

I have 4DOS loaded on my 64MB C: drive in a C:\4DOS directory with the
following line in my CONFIG.SYS right before I load the RDT2T driver:

  shell=c:\4dos\4dos.com /p /e:512

It works fine, but be aware that Software Carousel doesn't like 4DOS as the
command shell and won't boot.  If anyone else has gotten SC to work with
4DOS I sure would like to know.  Currently I just load 4DOS in my other SC
DOS sessions and don't use the above CONFIG.SYS line unless I won't be using
SC for a while.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:05:11 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> But there are many times when I'd like to do some quick and dirty
analysis of a simple
> circuit, and would love to have the capability on my palmtop.  I can
already test out
> algorithms in C or Fortran, draw schematics in OrCAD, do geometrical
solutions in AutoCAD
> (R10), analyze control systems problems, like bode plots, with CC, and
many more great
> engineering applications.  As I am an engineer, this is a truly useful
tool for me.

I don't know if you've already looked there or not, but the American
Society of Mechanical Engineers has a database of shareware, most of it for
DOS, which may include something useful to you for circuit analysis and
other engineering tasks:

http://www.mecheng.asme.org/database/browse.html

A quick scan on my part shows two circuit-related categories there:

<CAD for electronics, both circuits and layout> and
<Circuits, devices, data, emulators, and more>

Many, many other applications are also available, including
non-engineering-specific ones. For example, this application may be the
solution for those of you looking for a file "commenter":

ftp://ftp.mecheng.asme.org/pub/USER/WHAT.ZIP

Happy hunting!

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:27:42 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 4DOS installation woes

> Hi all!
>
> I've tried to set up 4DOS on my 32meg DS machine, with a shell command
> in my config.sys pointing to drive C:. Problem is, it cannot find 4dos
> on c:, I am forced to pop in my flash card (which has another copy of
> 4dos) before it will boot.
>
> I think what is happening, is when the config.sys is executing, drive
> c: doesn't exist yet (until the T2T driver runs) and the config.sys
> exits.
>
> Is anyone else running 4dos on their DS machine from the c: drive, and
> how do you do it?
>
> TIA,
> Mike...

Thats weird since the SHELL command doesn't go into effect until
after the contents of config.sys are processed. The command processor
specifiec only gets loaded after everything else is finished. I am
assuming that you have something like:

SHELL=C:\4DOS.COM C:\ /P

The second c:\ is not really needed if the 4dos config files are in
the same directory as 4dos.com.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:43:04 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....  (HP360LX)
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:31:21 -0500, Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM> wrote:

 > WinCE: just say no

ROFL.... WinCE and bear it... Fortunately the word no
requires no umlauts or any other accents (untypable with
WinCE's pWord!) Please all of you, restrain yourselves and
don't tell me that one can cut and paste from a file
prepared elsewhere and imported. Yuck! :) ... All I can say
is "barflebits"...

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:15:16 +1100, Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

 > >Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
 >
 > Hi Avi
 >
 > Defrag Is needed for Jam and some other software to install correctly tho.

I said that defragmentation is meaningless for performance
purposes, i.e. you won't get faster access before and after
defragmentation.

Sure, also SC needs its resourcepool contiguous so you have
to consolidate files and subdirectories to free up
contiguous area, but this has little to do with faster
access, which was my point.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:09:57 PST, Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

 > >Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
 > >drive with an arm that has to move to the right place it
 > >makes sense, but the access on the PCMCIA drive is
 > >elecronic, no arm, so defragging is useless for
 > >performance.
 > >
 > >The SC carousel delays may not be SC's, but the initial
 > >open of the A: drive by DOS' file system.
 > >
 > >  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
 > >
 >
 > I agree that from a performance point of view there is no gain in speed
 > by defragging. But to get Jam to work on my Hp 700 I had to defrag the
 > c/a drive.
 >
 > Thought you would like to know

Martin,

thanks... I know also that SC needs a contiguous space for
the resource pool. I specifically wrote about performance.
The question was why SC delays, and someone suggested
defragging for better performance, to which I replied that
it was not useful.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:52:52 -0800, Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET> wrote:

 > On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:
 >
 > > Defrag is meaningless on a PCMCIA drive. On a rotating
 > > drive with an arm that has to move to the right place it
 > > makes sense, but the access on the PCMCIA drive is
 > > elecronic, no arm, so defragging is useless for
 > > performance.
 >
 > That is not strictly true.  There are certain situations where defragging a
 > solid-state drive can improve performance.  Under some circumstances, DOS or
 > an application will read ahead several sectors and place them in a buffer in
 > main memory, where they can be accessed faster.  Heavily fragmented drives
 > thrash sector read ahead techniques, thus degrading performance, as it's
 > unnecessarily reading ahead, getting data it doesn't need.  Whereas with an
 > unfragmented drive, the sector read-ahead would be very effective.

Ian, you are correct of course, but the application you
discuss is so narrow in scope. It is true only for programs
that do linear work, i.e. sequential access, and lots of
it, and also if, and only if, you allocate a large number
of buffers. This is such a rarity on the palmtops I would
consider it negligible. But formally, you are correct, of
course.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:37:07 -0600, "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil> wrote:

 > I've noticed that the upgraded version of Post/LX (2.2a) lets you zoom AND

It is actually the merely _updated_ Post/LX. Upgrade was
from version 1 to version 2 :) ...

 > it also reformats the text in email messages you are reading.  This adds
 > word-wrap at the right spot Ýwell, it does break *some* things awkwardly¨.

It will not remove your CRLF. E.g. you have a margin of 70
and you have a CRLF at the wrap point on col 70. Post/LX
will wrap at 64, and leave you with another dangling short
line of 6, because it will not interfere with your CRLF at
col 7 (now).

 > How could this be applied to things like Memo?

Memo does not put any CRLF at the end of lines. So if you
have a paragraph of 1000 characters, they will be sent as
one long line. Memo will fake you out and show you the
lines nicely wrapped, though on the palmtop screen.

 > <<or does "magnify" work
 > this way in memo and I need to start downloading right away?!?!?>>  I like
 > bigger than average text but hate the jumping back and forth.

I ahve no idea what Magnify has to do with this topic, I am
clueless - clue me in... Magnify will open a lense and
magnify the stuff inside it. No more than that. What's the
story with jumping around on the screen? I really do not
understand what this is about...

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re (Post/LX):
>> word-wrap at the right spot Ýwell, it does break >>*some* things
awkwardly¨.
>
>It will not remove your CRLF. E.g. you have a margin of
>70 and you have a CRLF at the wrap point on col 70.
>Post/LX will wrap at 64,...

I'm actually praising Post/LX - it does a much better job at wrapping into
the zoomed screen than anything I've seen.  I just didn't want to imply it
fixed everything....

I understand about CRLFs and am pretty much used to reading short lines amid
long ones with MANY apps Ýeven in non-palmtop apps¨.

>Memo will fake you out and show you the lines nicely >wrapped, though on
the palmtop screen.

It *seems* that that's what Post/LX is doing during its zoomed display mode
(while reading a message).  Avi, you'll have to let us know if I'm wrong,
but it seems to wrap into the zoomed window just fine without altering the
message's original line lengths. I can't imagine that it's just zooming the
pane, because it doesn't make you scroll left and right.

>What's the story with jumping around on the screen? I >really do not
understand what this is about...

Even though I'm supposed to be a trained communicator, I occasionally get my
tongue wrapped around my eye-tooth...

What I mean is that memo, in the zoomed mode, only shows you half the page
at a time.  Well, it's from column 5 to 44 in the default setting.  Once you
start typing beyond column 44, the display scrolls across (one character at
a time) until it wraps to the next line; THEN it "jumps" (resets?) all the
way back to the left.
<<is that any better ;-)  ? I'm slow but sincere...>>

I wondered if there was a program out there that could make Memo Ýand PE,
etc.¨ insert an imaginary CRLF (or by any other method) to "magically" wrap
inside the zoomed window while typing; yet REALLY only add a line break at
the end of 64 chars. or so....

TIA.

--tim

PS. I guess I thought it wasn't possible, 'til I saw it work the way I
wanted in the read-message mode of Post/LX.

Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
254-287-7608
---------------------------------
There is always a better way to do something. Find it!  -- Edison.
email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:58:56 -0800
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Okay, I gave the "bundle" a chance.  If anyone is interested in these
items, please e-mail me offline.

I have the following for sale:  I'm keeping a 100 LX I have, converting
(mainly) to Omnibook 800CT.

HP200LX dbl speed 5 meg snSG607... (small crack repaired with PVC pipe
cement over a year ago, no sign of re-  appearing, repair not very
noticeable, no missing pixels, nothing else wrong with machine), with   Manuals
2 X Serial Cables
AC/Adapter F1011A
40 mb Simple Tech card STI-ATAFL/40
Smart Fax/Modem/Memory card ST1424FMM 2400 baud data/14.4 fax send, 9600
fax receive (no book, but works,        uses very little current)
10 mb HP Card F1013A
10 mb Sundisk Card FMW01SD3
28.8 Cardinal PCMCIA Modem
Newton Keyboard with cable
WWW/LX software
Time Tracker Software
Software Carousel v. 7XX
PC In Your Pocket
1-2-3 Pocket Reference
Microref DOS v.5
Microsoft MS DOS 5.0 Reference
WordPerfect 5.1 (with manuals and diskettes)
WordPerfect 5.1 Instant Reference
Microsoft Word 5.5 with Manuals
Microsoft Works 1.05 and 3.0 (can't find manuals)
Various WordPerfect 3rd party books
Stacker 4.0 with Manuals
Diconix 180i Serial Printer and A/C adapter
Leather Wallet (well used but functional)

Please reply offline.


tia,

Claud

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Could someone please pass along the settings required to get the news
server to work with WWW/LX & NEWS/LX? I have a user name and password. =
Thanks.

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Thanks Mack,

Running option.exe and putting something in every blank at the startup
options screen fixed it.

Mike...

> <<Is anyone else running 4dos on their DS machine from the c: drive, =
and
> how do you do it?>>
>
> I have 4DOS loaded on my 64MB C: drive in a C:\4DOS directory with the
> following line in my CONFIG.SYS right before I load the RDT2T driver:
>
>   shell=3Dc:\4dos\4dos.com /p /e:512
>
> It works fine, but be aware that Software Carousel doesn't like 4DOS as =
the
> command shell and won't boot.  If anyone else has gotten SC to work =
with
> 4DOS I sure would like to know.  Currently I just load 4DOS in my other =
SC
> DOS sessions and don't use the above CONFIG.SYS line unless I won't be =
using
> SC for a while.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>
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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:00:44 GMT, "d.hertrich" <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

Hi Daniel,

 > I now read the Post/LX help and I found it's great how much
 > functionality there is in the program! If I didn't read the
 > help, I haven't realized the most of the amazing features
 > such as storing incoming messages in a special folder depending
 > on from where the message comes (very helpful for the mails
 > from HPLX-List!).

:) ... It took awhile to convince you to read it.

 > (1) Sometimes I try to connect to my ISP using F5 (online)
 >     I get a connection but after the message "connection
 >     establshed" the program pauses a while (about half a
 >     minute) and then the window of Post/LX appears with
 >     the message "waiting from hello from server". Here it
 >     stops. I must press Ctrl to interrupt this an then
 >     Post/LX hangs up the modem and reports an online error.
 >     If I try to connect once more, it everytime works at the
 >     second attempt and I get my connection in seconds!
 >     Maybe this is a problem with my ISP? It's NOT the problem
 >     that the ISP the first time I try to connect is too busy
 >     or something like that: this had to be a very improbable
 >     coincidence!

I have an ISP with an identical issue. Sometimes I need to
call 15-20 times (!!!) to get through my workload! At other
times, I can get everything so fast it is amazing. They
also have another telephone number which is long-distance
for me, but 100% of the times I called there, I had ZERO
problems... This is something to complain to the ISP. I
have a running battle with my own ISP and they have been
incredibly useless in fixing it, and guess what? I am going
to move my business away from them. (They host several
Webpages for me, I have three dial-up accounts and so on,
so this is substantial amount of $$$ per month I am taking
somewhere else!

 > (2) In the Post/LX help is described how to archive messages:
 >     Starting Post/LX with the option -a and so on.
 >     What inhibits me to do it another way:
 >     - Add a new folder (say 'Archive')
 >     - Specify directory 'a:\_dat\wwwlx' to save it there
 >     - Connecting, receiving mail, disconnecting
 >     - remove PCMCIA modem, insert flash card
 >     - go to inbox, mark messages to archive, move them
 >       to 'archive' folder

It is hard work, and you have to do a lot of modifications
to the configuration file, and it is prone to error.

 >     This procedure was easier for me because I don't
 >     want to archive a whole inbox or outbox but rather
 >     single messages with important informations.

Check on your reading again!!! :) There is a command called
MOVE. It moves one message or a group of marked messages to
any folder you want. (Looks like the documentation reading needs more
reading, eh? :) ...)

 >     Is there any problem when starting WWW/LX with the
 >     modem inserted (= the directory of the 'archive'
 >     folder is not available)?

Try it, the worst case is the palmtop will explode
destroying your room/house and so on :) ...

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> I said that defragmentation is meaningless for performance purposes,
> i.e. you won't get faster access before and after defragmentation.

I've found that some flash cards, curiously enough, get really slow after
a while, and a defrag speeds them back up.  I know it's not because the
defrag has any physical consequences... perhaps somebody has an idea on
why it does this?  I thought perhaps at first that it was repeated writing
to the same location on the card, wearing out the flash, but it also does
it for reading.  Example: Collins Dictionary loads in 2-3 seconds usually,
but after a while (many file deletes, saves, moves, etc.) it slows down
to taking 25 seconds to load!  Running a defrag (or, rather, OPTIMIZE from
SC is what I use) speeds it back up to normal.

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:34:30 -0600, "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil> wrote:

 > I'm actually praising Post/LX - it does a much better job at wrapping into
 > the zoomed screen than anything I've seen.  I just didn't want to imply it
 > fixed everything....

Yes, I got that sense too. I was explaining what it does,
and why it cannot be perfect. :)

 > I understand about CRLFs and am pretty much used to reading short lines amid
 > long ones with MANY apps Ýeven in non-palmtop apps¨.

Yes, I thought so. My answer was mostly directed to others
who also read the thread.

 > It *seems* that that's what Post/LX is doing during its zoomed display mode
 > (while reading a message).  Avi, you'll have to let us know if I'm wrong,
 > but it seems to wrap into the zoomed window just fine without altering the
 > message's original line lengths. I can't imagine that it's just zooming the
 > pane, because it doesn't make you scroll left and right.

There is a command to format the message. It will then flow
the lines properly on the screen. Menu Message Format I
believe... F1 helps find it...

 > >What's the story with jumping around on the screen? I >really do not
 > understand what this is about...
 >
 > Even though I'm supposed to be a trained communicator, I occasionally get my
 > tongue wrapped around my eye-tooth...

Nah!!! Never happens to me ;) ...

 > What I mean is that memo, in the zoomed mode, only shows you half the page
 > at a time.  Well, it's from column 5 to 44 in the default setting.  Once you
 > start typing beyond column 44, the display scrolls across (one character at
 > a time) until it wraps to the next line; THEN it "jumps" (resets?) all the
 > way back to the left.
 > <<is that any better ;-)  ? I'm slow but sincere...>>

Ah! Memo has a setting of margins. If the margin setting is
wider than the zoom mode, then you indeed jump around. If
you make the Memo margin setting like the zoom mode, then
no jumping. (40 for the big characters, 64, medium font,
and 80 for the small font.)

 > I wondered if there was a program out there that could make Memo Ýand PE,
 > etc.¨ insert an imaginary CRLF (or by any other method) to "magically" wrap
 > inside the zoomed window while typing; yet REALLY only add a line break at
 > the end of 64 chars. or so....

As I said, use the margins setting in MEMO and it'll reflow
the lines on the screen properly (but it won't put CRLFs
there...)

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:21:11 -0800
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All you have to do is add the newsgroups in Post/lx that you want to
view... set them to server news.hplx.net with your login and password in
the appropriate boxes.  Then, going online should connect to the server.
Although, if you're running an older version of News/LX, you may have
problems.  I recommend that all News/LX users upgrade to the latest
version, which is included in the WWWLX.ZIP file on D&A's site.

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     Hi!
     Yes it will be in the Hewlett Packard Computer and imaging Co.

     Helmut in Colorado

     H-P Colorado Springs Div.



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Date:    3/3/99 1:46 AM


Hi all

Does anyone know what section HPLX will be in if the proposed split of HP
goes ahead?

Russell

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Suppose to be Medical Instrumentation and Computing.

>Hi all
>
>Does anyone know what section HPLX will be in if the proposed split of HP
>goes ahead?
>
>Russell
>
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I tried to use NDOS (the Norton Utility version of NDOS) and got the "shell"
command installed in the config.sys file to load it. Now how do you get the
HP system manager to load? A "100" or "200" does not work. I am guessing
that the "100" and "200" command is built into the ROM version of
command.com. Is there a work around to get system manger loaded after NDOS
or 4DOS. The unit is a 4MB HP200LX.

Rodger

-----Original Message-----
From: Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: 4DOS installation woes


><<Is anyone else running 4dos on their DS machine from the c: drive, and
>how do you do it?>>
>
>I have 4DOS loaded on my 64MB C: drive in a C:\4DOS directory with the
>following line in my CONFIG.SYS right before I load the RDT2T driver:
>
>  shell=c:\4dos\4dos.com /p /e:512
>
>It works fine, but be aware that Software Carousel doesn't like 4DOS as the
>command shell and won't boot.  If anyone else has gotten SC to work with
>4DOS I sure would like to know.  Currently I just load 4DOS in my other SC
>DOS sessions and don't use the above CONFIG.SYS line unless I won't be
using
>SC for a while.
>
>Cheers,
>Mack
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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:04:14 -0800
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I haven't tried it myself yet, but seeing as this 4DOS thing is turning into a
point of interest, I'd like to ask 4DOS users if the install (for an LX) is "by
the book", or if there are "gotchas" that LX users (and maybe Software Carousel
LX users) need to watch for.

If there are some special procedures or precautions to observe, posting a nice
a-b-c list might be helpful.

- Longden





"Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM> on 03/03/99 01:54:51 PM

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Subject:  Re: 4DOS installation woes




I tried to use NDOS (the Norton Utility version of NDOS) and got the "shell"
command installed in the config.sys file to load it. Now how do you get the
HP system manager to load? A "100" or "200" does not work. I am guessing
that the "100" and "200" command is built into the ROM version of
command.com. Is there a work around to get system manger loaded after NDOS
or 4DOS. The unit is a 4MB HP200LX.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:22:24 -0500
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I have found another CAD solution which will run on the 200LX.  It is
DAN_CAD available at http://metalworking.com/shareware.html.  This is also a
CAM solution so you could use your 200LX to run a CNC Milling Machine or
Lathe or Engraver.  There are several CNC motion controller's that use a
serial interface so you could hook up through the serial port and have a go
at it.

Anyway, I have Dan_Cad loaded on one of my flash cards and it runs fine on
my stock 200LX, would  be much better with 2x clock speed and more RAM.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:25:13 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Office Depot compact Flash cards.

Office Depot here in Houston seems to be selling 4meg compact flash
cards _with_ a type 2 PCMCIA adapter for $15.  The store here near me
(I'm going to check another on my way home tonight) was out of stock,
but at $15 each I'm going to keep looking.  I wish I had paid attention
to the manufacturer of the card.

Phil

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> I tried to use NDOS (the Norton Utility version of NDOS) and got the "shell"
> command installed in the config.sys file to load it. Now how do you get the
> HP system manager to load? A "100" or "200" does not work. I am guessing
> that the "100" and "200" command is built into the ROM version of
> command.com. Is there a work around to get system manger loaded after NDOS

Try either sysmgr or was it, $sysmgr

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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:

>
> As I said, use the margins setting in MEMO and it'll reflow
> the lines on the screen properly (but it won't put CRLFs
> there...)

  ...but it would be easy to make a macro to do so.

Ted

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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For anybody who may have missed it earlier, there's a new
source of HPLX discussion on the Internet.  It's a private
news server at news.hplx.net.  Any newsreader can read it
(Netscape Messenger, Outlook Express, News/LX, LXNNTP,
tin/rtin, pine, and any other news reader that supports
authentication.  To prevent abuse, a login name and a
password are required in order to access the server.  To
sign up, point your web browser to http://news.hplx.net (or
http://www.hplx.net/news/ for WWW/LX users) and apply
online.  You can also find a list of newsgroups there if
you want to see what's available.

In order to read messages once you've signed up, you
should use news.hplx.net as your news server and subscribe
to the groups you wish to read.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:04:25 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hi all! Does anyone have a copy of the archive 2216HP.ZIP that
they can e-mail to me?  I just got my Accton 2216-1 card and am
trying to hook it up to my Win95 Network.  I really would
appreciate it!  TIA!

Brian Sugita
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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:24:57 -0500
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I recently posted an HP95lx 512k, connection cable, case for sale here on
> the list as well as in a couple of newsgroups, but have had a somewhat
> lackluster response.
>
> My price of $125 was set based primarily on ebay where I saw a few of
these go for $100 to $155 without the connection cable, but im curious if
the price is too high so what do you folks think a HP95lx should sell for
today?

I recently bought my first HP palmtop about 6 weeks ago.  I wanted to buy a
95LX to "try out" a palmtop to see if I liked the size and power of the
unit.  However, I did not bid on those Ebay palmtops that went that high.
Quite frankly, I thought (and think) they were overpriced. I was able to
find a great deal on a 95LX on www.classifieds2000.com for $30.  You might
well be able to sell the 95LX with connection cable for about $70 or so.
Or, perhaps you can get a higher price on Ebay.  <g>

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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: 2216HP.ZIP Needed
Comments: To: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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the one place to go is
         http://www.hplx.net/articles.accton.html
the one thing to do
         Tanx David for his artical
Alain

> Hi all! Does anyone have a copy of the archive 2216HP.ZIP that
> they can e-mail to me?  I just got my Accton 2216-1 card and am
> trying to hook it up to my Win95 Network.  I really would
> appreciate it!  TIA!
>
> Brian Sugita
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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>


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Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Hi all! Does anyone have a copy of the archive 2216HP.ZIP that
> they can e-mail to me?  I just got my Accton 2216-1 card and am
> trying to hook it up to my Win95 Network.  I really would
> appreciate it!  TIA!
>
> Brian Sugita
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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I just got one too, and would appreciate the same.
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Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:14:07 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks

My daughter, a hp100LX user, is looking for a
Medical Dictionary that will run on it.

Any ideas?


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I receive the mailing list in digest form about once a day. Some time
back some said they replied to a message in the long digest by
highlighting it a then hitting a key combination. I failed to write this
down. Can someone tell me what this shortcut is?

Thanks and aloha - bob     \ooo_

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:05:13 +0800
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              Louis Di Fazio <louisthx@VEGAS.INFI.NET>
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I use an old Gridcase Laptop as a file server and floppy drive for my
200lx. Some of the memory went bad in the Gridcase where my available
memory is 512K instead of the 650K. Since it is close to impossible to get
memory for this computer, I was wondering if there is a virtual memory
program for DOS where it could use the Hard Drive of the Grid for the
needed additional memory.

        Thanks In Advance,
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:44:15 GMT
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Hi list,

a few month ago I played a little bit around with
games on the 200LX. For example I tried "ATP", a
flight simulator, and it worked fine.
A game called "HL" = "Heart light" worked also.
(maybe some of you know these games?)
But now I've loaded them on my HP again after
months without them and wanted to start them...

Both started correctly, but before they are loaded
entirely in memory, a message appears
'internal stack overflow
 system halted'.

And sometimes it beeps after showing this message
until I do a hard reset (ctrl-shift-on).

What could be the reason?
Both of these games have sound output, and both
of the games crash a short time after sound begins
to play... maybe this is the reason?
At least one game (HL) has a sound output sounding
like a "WAVE"-file (I dont know - maybe ATP's sound
works similar).

Thanks for help,
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:47:03 PST
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              David Cripps <david_cripps@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I think there is a going to be a lot of demand for this.

Any chance of getting a copy on SUPER?

Mind you a zip of a standard ACCTON install would be even
better - David? <G>

Best regards

Dave Cripps

>Hi all! Does anyone have a copy of the archive 2216HP.ZIP that
>they can e-mail to me?  I just got my Accton 2216-1 card and am
>trying to hook it up to my Win95 Network.  I really wouldappreciate
>it!  TIA!



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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:41:44 -0500
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> I think there is a going to be a lot of demand for this.
>
> Any chance of getting a copy on SUPER?

I have never gotten permission to post that file for some reason. Until then...
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:13:54 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi there,

> I tried to use NDOS (the Norton Utility version of NDOS) and got the =
"shell"
> command installed in the config.sys file to load it. Now how do you get =
the
> HP system manager to load? A "100" or "200" does not work. I am guessing
> that the "100" and "200" command is built into the ROM version of
> command.com. Is there a work around to get system manger loaded after =
NDOS
> or 4DOS. The unit is a 4MB HP200LX.

I also tried to NDOS and installed it as it suppose to be installed.
What happens is that after it's installed, AUTOEXEC.BAT will not be
executed and then you will not set any path to your D:\BIN directory
where 200.COM is located. So the SysMgr will then not start.

One additional thing is that Software Carousel doesn't like NDOS and the
palmtop hangs.

Maybe a special 200LX friendly COMMAND.COM with lots of features and
Linux like stuff would be something for a good programmer to invest
some time in...

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:26:30 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Prince of Persia I for DOS

Hi,
        I'm trying to run Prince of Persia on my HP200LX, but graphics don't
work.
Has someone tried run it on HP ? If yes please contact me !

Thank you.

isaque

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Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199903041213.UAA21047@iron.singnet.com.sg>

In <199903041213.UAA21047@iron.singnet.com.sg>, on 03/04/99 at 08:13 PM,
   Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> said:


>One additional thing is that Software Carousel doesn't like NDOS and the
>palmtop hangs.

Jorgen,
I haven't used either NDos or SC for a number of years, but I do remember
that the documentation file that comes with NDOS gives the reason why SC
(I was using v.6 of the latter on a PC) chokes and also provides
information on the work around. I am pretty sure I had them both working
concurrently. Do you have the text file that came with NDOS? If so I think
you will find the explanation there. I don't have it anymore or I'd look
it up myself. NDOS has some very powerful batchfile capabilities. Charles

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POST/LX has an 'undocumented' feature which allows use of HFN
fonts. I created a proportional font and am able to read
80 column text unwrapped in 64x18 mode. The font is called
POST.HFN and is included in my updated FONT.ZIP file. Read the
FONT.DOC for POST/LX installation instructions.

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/font.zip

Proportional fonts are also easier to read than monospaced
fonts. Indeed ASCII art signatures don't look very nice with
proportional fonts.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:07:38 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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If you are interested in technical background on flash cards
concerning ATA vs. Linear flash and some speed considerations,
read the FAQ section of Sandisk's homepage at:

http://www.sandisk.com

If I remember right, there is also explained, why some flash
cards are getting slower by the time and how to speed them up
on the BIOS level.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:15:24 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Me too please....

Thanks,
Jon C.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Sugita Ýmailto:kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 8:04 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 2216HP.ZIP Needed
>
>
> Hi all! Does anyone have a copy of the archive 2216HP.ZIP that
> they can e-mail to me?  I just got my Accton 2216-1 card and am
> trying to hook it up to my Win95 Network.  I really would
> appreciate it!  TIA!
>
> Brian Sugita
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:30:48 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I seem to recall that there were several such virtual memory programs (like
Above Disk), but they won't help you.

You want to increase your real memory from 512k to 650k, but all those virtual
memory programs just gave you a simulation of expanded memory which doesn't
allow you to execute programs that will require more than 512k to load and
start.

For that age of computers, you'd probably be better off just replacing it.

- Longden

PS I have an AST PenExec, which is a re-badged Grid Convertible (2260)...but
that's another story.  Your Gridcase is older.





Louis Di Fazio <louisthx@VEGAS.INFI.NET> on 03/03/99 08:05:13 AM

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Subject:  Off Topic-Virtual Memory for Dos




I use an old Gridcase Laptop as a file server and floppy drive for my
200lx. Some of the memory went bad in the Gridcase where my available
memory is 512K instead of the 650K. Since it is close to impossible to get
memory for this computer, I was wondering if there is a virtual memory
program for DOS where it could use the Hard Drive of the Grid for the
needed additional memory.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:37:29 -0600
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              Ted Kuemmel <tkuemmel@EXECPC.COM>
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That the one piece of the puzzle I also need.

ted kuemmel
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From: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 8:01 PM
Subject: 2216HP.ZIP Needed


>Hi all! Does anyone have a copy of the archive 2216HP.ZIP that
>they can e-mail to me?  I just got my Accton 2216-1 card and am
>trying to hook it up to my Win95 Network.  I really would
>appreciate it!  TIA!
>
>Brian Sugita
>kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:16:16 -0800
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Well, I've finally had a reason to use the @sin function in 123.

But first I've got to figure out how to convert deg to rad so I can pass in
the correct value for the function.  Can anyone help this trig-challenged
person?

I didn't see a built-in function that would do this for me.


...lars

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:24:29 -0500
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rad = deg * PI / 180

rick


>Well, I've finally had a reason to use the @sin function in 123.
>
>But first I've got to figure out how to convert deg to rad so I can pass in
>the correct value for the function.  Can anyone help this trig-challenged
>person?
>
>I didn't see a built-in function that would do this for me.
>
>
>...lars
>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:42:34 -0500
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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>I haven't used either NDos or SC for a number of years, but I do remember
>that the documentation file that comes with NDOS gives the reason why SC
>(I was using v.6 of the latter on a PC) chokes and also provides
>information on the work around. I am pretty sure I had them both working
>concurrently. Do you have the text file that came with NDOS? If so I think
>you will find the explanation there. I don't have it anymore or I'd look
>it up myself. NDOS has some very powerful batchfile capabilities. Charles

I looked at the NDOS compatibility documentation and basically is says to
run it in an SC session as I had already figured out for 4DOS.  You can't
run it as your main shell since it specifically expects command.com to be
used.

I have found that 4DOS can be loaded as the primary shell when using
DOSSHELL, though.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:42:44 -0800
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              Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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Does this look right?

        Deg * PI/180 = Rad

...lars

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:51:01 -0700
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              John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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Larry Soo wrote:
>
> Does this look right?
>
>         Deg * PI/180 = Rad

Units check out (deg * rad/deg = rad) and there
are 2Pi radians in 360 degrees - yep, looks right to me !!

-- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:56:15 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Does anybody know where the "splash screen" for Windows 2.03 is stored?
Is it part of the Windows executable?

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:06:08 -0800
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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I am looking into a memory card after seeing how cheap they are now
days.  I do not remember what voltage (5 or 3.3) is recommended for our
palmtops.  I would assume lower voltage would eat less batteries, as
well as being newer, possibly less power required for newer parts, and
possibly faster power for newer parts.

Dan Carrington

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:25:01 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Prince of Persia I for DOS
Comments: To: "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Araujo, Isaque G. wrote:

> I'm trying to run Prince of Persia on my HP200LX, but graphics don't
> work.  Has someone tried run it on HP ? If yes please contact me !


I asked the same question here a couple of months ago.
The trick is to type "prince cga" at the command line
(without the quotes, of course).

It runs quite nicely on my 2x 200LX.  Have fun!

Ted

--
Theodore Heise   <theise@netins.net>   West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:43:00 -0500
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              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      H-P split, Jornada 420 ext. keyboard, etc.

Hello All,

What do you think of HP's recently announced split? What makes
me worry is that there wasn't any info on who will carry on
the calculator line: HP Measurement Equipment or HP Computer.

IMO, the 200LX will be treated as part of the calculator line,
that is separetely from the Jornada/WinCE lot. Actually the LX
uses quite a lot of technology/parts from calcs, like keyboard.

But I actually think that Measurement Equipment child company
will get the higher valued workforce, engineers whose minds are
not (yet) controlled by M$, so they can be innovative. Hope the
LX and calculator line will find place in their plans for good.

However, I think they should have made THREE child companies,
but with lesser independence and sharing common brandname:
Printing and Imaging Division; Measurement and Test Equipment;
and Computer Systems. This would be an arrangement similar
to that of Tektronix, a major competitior to H-P in both the
Measurement and Color Printing/Imaging segments. If it works
for them, it should be less risky for H-P, anyhow.

BTW, do you think the external keyboard mentioned in HP Jor 420
tech. specs. will be an infrared one, maybe suitable for LX use
via some driver, LXers hack for themselves? External keyboard
is a missing 200LX feature now, that Newton's is gone. (If you
wish to write driver for IBM PCjr infra kbd, drop me a mail).

        Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:43:19 -8
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From:         "Anthony C. Stein, Ph.D." <tony@SAFETYRESEARCH.COM>
Organization: Safety Research Associates, Inc.
Subject:      Re: 123 Q: How do I convert Deg to Rad??
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 It's easier to divide the angle in degrees by 57.3 to get radians.


> Well, I've finally had a reason to use the @sin function in 123.
>
> But first I've got to figure out how to convert deg to rad so I can pass in
> the correct value for the function.  Can anyone help this trig-challenged
> person?
>
> I didn't see a built-in function that would do this for me.
>


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Subject:      Re: packet program
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> This is for the xl ham operators out there... i have a hp95lx and would like
> to know a packet program that will fit on my 512k palmtop. I reconfigured
> the built-in COMM program "Genie" to work on my kpc3, but i sure there is a
> program out there that can work better.

Go to

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/termprogs/

and download Paket6

It's a DOS shareware program that is fully featured and should run in
512K if you close the System Manager.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:56:32 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Dear friends,
2 years ago I purchased a Palmtop Snap-In Holder from Notebook
Supply Warehouse. I have read that they have gotten out of the
200LX business.
Does anybody have an idea where I can purchase 2 more of these
extremely practical devices ?
Or is there anybody who has some stored away somewhere who
would be willing to sell them to me. In 1997 they were $8.95 a
piece at NSW.
Regards
Winfried

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:09:01 -0500
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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>For about the past 2 months my LX has been my _only_ computer since I had a
>HD problem on my desktop. The LX has served me well and I find that I only
>miss the desktop about 10% of the time. My interest in the palmtop circuit
>software is that it would allow me to play with different circuits for
>amateur radio projects. Since I am trying to live without a desktop the
>circuit software would be welcomed addition to my palmtop. By the way, are
>there any hams on the list that are running any antenna designing software
>on the LX and if so, what are you using?
>
>73 Jeff


I used to use a programme called Yagimax - I forget where I got It. Give
frequency
and type of antenna desired and It gave element lengths and plotted F/B
ratio and
Db patterns in several modes. I think the prog had lots more features that I
never
used.

Darren.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:31:28 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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>Yuck! :) ... All I can say
>is "barflebits"...


What is barflebits? It sound good!

-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:09:02 -0500
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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I've downloaded and tried the databases on the 95LX Section of Super, but
haven't found them to be quite satisfactory.  I'd like to find a
configurable database program where I can create the fields, field types,
etc.  Has anyone any experience with a database program like this that will
run on the 95LX?

Thanks,

David Ball

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:19:34 -0500
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              Istvan TAKATS <ocsi@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Hi Claud,


I am interested, what is the amount you are willing to accept for the
units?




Istvan (Steven) TAKATS

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> From: Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: FS:  200LX + Accessories
> Date: 1999,Mar.03 14:58
>
> Okay, I gave the "bundle" a chance.  If anyone is interested in these
> items, please e-mail me offline.
>
> I have the following for sale:  I'm keeping a 100 LX I have, converting
> (mainly) to Omnibook 800CT.
>
> HP200LX dbl speed 5 meg snSG607... (small crack repaired with PVC pipe
> cement over a year ago, no sign of re-  appearing, repair not very
> noticeable, no missing pixels, nothing else wrong with machine), with
Manuals
> 2 X Serial Cables
> AC/Adapter F1011A
> 40 mb Simple Tech card STI-ATAFL/40
> Smart Fax/Modem/Memory card ST1424FMM 2400 baud data/14.4 fax send, 9600
> fax receive (no book, but works,        uses very little current)
> 10 mb HP Card F1013A
> 10 mb Sundisk Card FMW01SD3
> 28.8 Cardinal PCMCIA Modem
> Newton Keyboard with cable
> WWW/LX software
> Time Tracker Software
> Software Carousel v. 7XX
> PC In Your Pocket
> 1-2-3 Pocket Reference
> Microref DOS v.5
> Microsoft MS DOS 5.0 Reference
> WordPerfect 5.1 (with manuals and diskettes)
> WordPerfect 5.1 Instant Reference
> Microsoft Word 5.5 with Manuals
> Microsoft Works 1.05 and 3.0 (can't find manuals)
> Various WordPerfect 3rd party books
> Stacker 4.0 with Manuals
> Diconix 180i Serial Printer and A/C adapter
> Leather Wallet (well used but functional)
>
> Please reply offline.
>
>
> tia,
>
> Claud
>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:45:18 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Greetings all!  I recently got an Accton EN2216 network card
and installed it and the appropriate software in my 200LX.  I
am trying to connect to a Netware LAN that we have at work.
I use a batch file called NETSTART.BAT whos contents look like...

@echo off
op2216.exe
pd2212.com 0x62 5
pdipx.com
netx.exe


This batch file and all the executables are in a directory called
c:\net.  When I run the batch file all appears to work well.  The
enabler runs, the card initializes I get a link indicator on my
cable, etc.  I even get so far as to get the message...

"Attached to server ALPHA
 03-04-99    14:30:25"

However I seem unable to access the network drives.  For example drive F:

Any ideas?  TIA!

Brian Sugita
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:47:16 -0800
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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:

> However I seem unable to access the network drives.  For example drive
> F:

Put LASTDRIVE=E in your config.sys.  Or, if you have a 32/64MB 200LX,
put LASTDRIVE=F in there.  NETX looks at your LASTDRIVE setting and makes
its first drive the one after your lastdrive setting, so you need it in
there.

BTW, for people using TREMM or any other EMS manager, there's a version of
NETX called EMSNETX.EXE that saves some conventional memory.

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Subject:      Re: Windows 2.03
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hi David,
I don't know for win 2.03,
but I think, (as I can remember) in windows 3.xx, the way was:
modify windows\system\vgalogo.rle (or other)
(you are limited in the number of color and size)
using setup to reinstall the video driver.
hope this helps
Alain
> Does anybody know where the "splash screen" for Windows 2.03 is stored?
> Is it part of the Windows executable?
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Hi, List members
Anyone had made the win2.03 works on the 200LX?
Everytime I tried, I saw the splash screen and some "special charactrs",
that's all, not thing else happen. Any help? Thanks.

Roger S.
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From: Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Windows 2.03


hi David,
I don't know for win 2.03,
but I think, (as I can remember) in windows 3.xx, the way was:
modify windows\system\vgalogo.rle (or other)
(you are limited in the number of color and size)
using setup to reinstall the video driver.
hope this helps
Alain
> Does anybody know where the "splash screen" for Windows 2.03 is stored?
> Is it part of the Windows executable?
>
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Hello!

I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose eyesight is
slowly failing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:10:47 -0800
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Roger Shea wrote:

> Anyone had made the win2.03 works on the 200LX? Everytime I tried, I
> saw the splash screen and some "special charactrs", that's all, not
> thing else happen. Any help? Thanks.

Yes, I believe you need to load SETVER or SETVERM before running Windows
2.03, or you get that error.

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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose
> eyesight is slowly failing.

Check out http://www.dasoft.com .

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:08:15 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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hi roger.
I don't use win on the palmtop.
did you try SETVER?
Alain
> Hi, List members
> Anyone had made the win2.03 works on the 200LX?
> Everytime I tried, I saw the splash screen and some "special charactrs",
> that's all, not thing else happen. Any help? Thanks.
>


Al
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:16:53 -0800
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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Karl DeLyria wrote:

> Where can I find netx or emsnetx.exe?

The netx files are at http://www.hplx.net/netx.zip.  EMSNETX can be found
at http://www.hplx.net/david/emsnetx.exe.

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Thu,  4 Mar 1999 19:12:52 -0500 (EST)

19m15s ago ...
On Thu,  4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose =
eyesight is
> slowly failing.

Magnify is now a D&A Software item.  Check at:
        http://www.dasoft.com

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:15:10 -0800
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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:11:56 -0600, Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

 > On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:
 >
 > >
 > > As I said, use the margins setting in MEMO and it'll reflow
 > > the lines on the screen properly (but it won't put CRLFs
 > > there...)
 >
 >   ...but it would be easy to make a macro to do so.

Sure...

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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:07:36 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

 > POST/LX has an 'undocumented' feature which allows use of HFN
 > fonts. I created a proportional font and am able to read
 > 80 column text unwrapped in 64x18 mode. The font is called
 > POST.HFN and is included in my updated FONT.ZIP file. Read the
 > FONT.DOC for POST/LX installation instructions.
 >
 > http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/font.zip
 >
 > Proportional fonts are also easier to read than monospaced
 > fonts. Indeed ASCII art signatures don't look very nice with
 > proportional fonts.

Stefan,

Thanks for posting this. Let me make sure that everyone
understands: "undocumented" = "unsupported". The reason we
did not document it is because the additional fonts tended
to cause a failure due to memory while processing
configuration files. So we did not make this available
publicly and we do not support it. If you use it and your
Post/LX fails, take out the font treatment and try again,
this feature will not be supported. Please don't write with
these problems, I will just ignore it, or send you some of
my better flames :) ...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:09:57 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Where can I find netx or emsnetx.exe?

Karl
At 03:47 PM 3/4/99 -0800, you wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:
>
>> However I seem unable to access the network drives.  For example drive
>> F:
>
>Put LASTDRIVE=E in your config.sys.  Or, if you have a 32/64MB 200LX,
>put LASTDRIVE=F in there.  NETX looks at your LASTDRIVE setting and makes
>its first drive the one after your lastdrive setting, so you need it in
>there.
>
>BTW, for people using TREMM or any other EMS manager, there's a version of
>NETX called EMSNETX.EXE that saves some conventional memory.
>
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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:31:28 +0100, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> wrote:

 > >Yuck! :) ... All I can say
 > >is "barflebits"...
 >
 > What is barflebits? It sound good!

ROFL!!! Most englishe speakers would associate this word
with another "barf", which has not so tasty connotations :)
...

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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:54:23 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> wrote:

 > Hello!
 >
 > I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose eyesight is
 > slowly failing.
 >
 > Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Phillipe,

ACE no longer exists. We, D&A software, now produce this
product. Please checkout http://www.dasoft.com. There is an
order form at http://www.dasoft.com/orderfrm.html which you
can download and fill out and either fax it (number is on
the form) or email to info@dasoft.com.

Best regards,

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:32:04 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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hi,
I still think the best option would be a serial interface to a normal keyboard.
This sort of box are cheap (you find some diagram on internet),
PC keyboard are cheap (very cheap).
But (there is always a but), we need a software.
regards
Alain
> TW, do you think the external keyboard mentioned in HP Jor 420
> tech. specs. will be an infrared one, maybe suitable for LX use
> via some driver, LXers hack for themselves? External keyboard
> is a missing 200LX feature now, that Newton's is gone. (If you
> wish to write driver for IBM PCjr infra kbd, drop me a mail).
>


Al
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Has anyone seen the jornada 420?. Comments?.
Don't worry, I'm a faithful LX user, but I am curious about the 420 :)

Feher Tamas wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> What do you think of HP's recently announced split? What makes
> me worry is that there wasn't any info on who will carry on
> the calculator line: HP Measurement Equipment or HP Computer.
>
> IMO, the 200LX will be treated as part of the calculator line,
> that is separetely from the Jornada/WinCE lot. Actually the LX
> uses quite a lot of technology/parts from calcs, like keyboard.
>
> But I actually think that Measurement Equipment child company
> will get the higher valued workforce, engineers whose minds are
> not (yet) controlled by M$, so they can be innovative. Hope the
> LX and calculator line will find place in their plans for good.
>
> However, I think they should have made THREE child companies,
> but with lesser independence and sharing common brandname:
> Printing and Imaging Division; Measurement and Test Equipment;
> and Computer Systems. This would be an arrangement similar
> to that of Tektronix, a major competitior to H-P in both the
> Measurement and Color Printing/Imaging segments. If it works
> for them, it should be less risky for H-P, anyhow.
>
> BTW, do you think the external keyboard mentioned in HP Jor 420
> tech. specs. will be an infrared one, maybe suitable for LX use
> via some driver, LXers hack for themselves? External keyboard
> is a missing 200LX feature now, that Newton's is gone. (If you
> wish to write driver for IBM PCjr infra kbd, drop me a mail).
>
>         Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
>
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Thanks David and Alain
it works.

Roger
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From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Windows 2.03


>On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Roger Shea wrote:
>
>> Anyone had made the win2.03 works on the 200LX? Everytime I tried, I
>> saw the splash screen and some "special charactrs", that's all, not
>> thing else happen. Any help? Thanks.
>
>Yes, I believe you need to load SETVER or SETVERM before running Windows
>2.03, or you get that error.
>
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Wow, this is a fast list. Great!

I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to wrap to
the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it always
wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes I
wish I could just write up to the edge!

Any help, again, would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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02h55m17s ago ...
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose =
eyesight is
> slowly failing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

     Try ZOOM & ZOOMC both available on S.U.P.E.R.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:34:09 -0800
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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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I bought Magnify, but I don't use it.  I prefer zoom much more.

-Tim

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software


02h55m17s ago ...
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose eyesight
is
> slowly failing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

     Try ZOOM & ZOOMC both available on S.U.P.E.R.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:08:22 -0800
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>
> I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to wrap to
> the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it always
> wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes I
> wish I could just write up to the edge!
>

You're talking about Notetaker, not Memo, right?

An admittedly imperfect solution is to zoom out to the medium
setting :)

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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:14:02 -0800
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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:24:49 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> wrote:

 > Wow, this is a fast list. Great!
 >
 > I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to wrap to
 > the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it always
 > wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes I
 > wish I could just write up to the edge!

In memo? Menu T Margins.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:21:41 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Text wrapping in notes screen

Philippe Lewis writes:
> I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to wrap to
> the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it always
> wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes I
> wish I could just write up to the edge!

I don't think the default can be modified.

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:23:03 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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Try File Express. I use version 5 on my palmtop. Its easy to learn, and
very powerful. It is flat though... (not relational).

A search on the web should locate it, or try www.filemine.com
If you can't locate it let me know, I'll email you the zip.

Mike...

> I've downloaded and tried the databases on the 95LX Section of Super, =
but
> haven't found them to be quite satisfactory.  I'd like to find a
> configurable database program where I can create the fields, field =
types,
> etc.  Has anyone any experience with a database program like this that =
will
> run on the 95LX?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Ball
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:37:43 -0600
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              Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I can't get BATTLOG to graph.  I've loaded it and can see the graph, but it
doesn't plot.  Any suggestions?

Also, which battery program is everyone's *favorite*?


Les

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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:19:18 -0500
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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:59:01 -0500, C.W. Bradley wrote:

>information on the work around. I am pretty sure I had them both working
>concurrently. Do you have the text file that came with NDOS? If so I think
>you will find the explanation there. I don't have it anymore or I'd look
>it up myself. NDOS has some very powerful batchfile capabilities. Charles

I just installed 4DOS (6.01a) and it echoes its banner during the boot
sequence, transfers control to AUTOEXEC.BAT which completes
properly and passes control to SysManager (200).

However, when I try to access DOS via Ý&¨-ÝD¨ or ÝCtrl¨-Ý123¨
I get the internal DOS5 (from D:).

Has anyone been able to access 4DOS without using SC ?

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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:24:57 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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James,

Thus far we haven't found a copy of the older
Stedman's or Dorland's.
We did run across something called "Brody's"
which still sells a dos
version for $59.95  They also have legal, general,
Sci/tech, Slang and
Investment for various prices.

The system requirements are given as IBM XT,
AT,Etc,
URL is  <a
href="http://inductel.com/med_minsys_dos.html">


James P. Grenert wrote:
> if you hear of a good one, please pass
> it along to me.
--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:42:53 -0500
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HELP!

In the last week I have developed a problem with my phone book database
(standard HP200LX phone book program).

I had a couple of occurrences while out of town where I had garbage
displayed in some of the data records (both garbage records and some garbage
inside the records).  Closing the file, then reopening it seemed to correct
the problem at the time.  I have approximately 690 records in the phone
book.

PROBLEM STATEMENT
This morning I found some searching problems.  When I attempted to find a
name that starts "Broo..." I had no problems by typing in B R O.  However,
when I try to find a name that starts with "GM " I get a beep as soon as I
type any letter after the G.  The records look OK on the screen, but no
character after the G is accepted.

SAME PROBLEM WITH CPACK
I tried the same G search on the file using CPACK and had the same problem.
A version of the phone book that I backed up last week had no problems.

REQUESTS
1.  What just happened?

2.  Is there a way to check the integrity of the files?

3.  What is the best way to "clean" my 200?  Prior to my trip, I backed up
the entire 200 and stored those files in a separate directory.

Thanks in advance for any help.

L. Brooks

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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:01:11 +0100
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> On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:31:28 +0100, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> wrote:
>
>  > >Yuck! :) ... All I can say
>  > >is "barflebits"...
>  >
>  > What is barflebits? It sound good!
>
> ROFL!!! Most englishe speakers would associate this word
> with another "barf", which has not so tasty connotations :)
> ...
What is "ROFL !!!" ?
What ist "barf" (not in COLLINS) ?
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> My daughter, a hp100LX user, is looking for a
> Medical Dictionary that will run on it.
>
> Any ideas?

I don't know if this helps, but there is a 650K medical spellcheck
dictionary for WordPerfect 5.0 at:

ftp://ftp.mecheng.asme.org/pub/WORDPROC/WPMEDCL.ZIP

Incidentally, you'll find lots of good shareware/freeware medical stuff for
 the LX at:

http://www.os2bbs.com/malka/hp-soft.htm#medical

...and links to commercial medical stuff for the LX at:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/slz/hpmedcom.htm

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When I drop out of the system manager I get 4DOS. Also, when I create a
create a maxdos session at the & I also get 4DOS. Only when I drop to
dos using the & D do I get MS-Dos 5.0. Probably because it's hard
mapped on ROM... Maybe Buddy can remap it, if you really need it at the
& D...  Personally, I wrote a macro for Fn F10, which exits the system
manager, and that works well for me...

>
> However, when I try to access DOS via Ý&¨-ÝD¨ or ÝCtrl¨-Ý123¨
> I get the internal DOS5 (from D:).
>
> Has anyone been able to access 4DOS without using SC ?
>

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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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What's the difference?

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software


>I bought Magnify, but I don't use it.  I prefer zoom much more.
>
>-Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software
>
>
>02h55m17s ago ...
>On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose eyesight
>is
>> slowly failing.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
>     Try ZOOM & ZOOMC both available on S.U.P.E.R.
>
>Cheers,
>
>*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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> > I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to
wrap to
> > the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it
always
> > wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes
I
> > wish I could just write up to the edge!
>
>In memo? Menu T Margins.
>

Nope. I wish it was that easy. It's in Notetaker...

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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:12:51 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Thanks! Yes, that's one way to do it, but I do prefer the large
characters... Hmmm. Trade-offs...

Philippe :)

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Text wrapping in notes screen


>>
>> I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to wrap
to
>> the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it
always
>> wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes I
>> wish I could just write up to the edge!
>>
>
>You're talking about Notetaker, not Memo, right?
>
>An admittedly imperfect solution is to zoom out to the medium
>setting :)
>
>Eric
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:08:26 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <000301be6727$36bd1760$3d026fc6@ldbrooks.umich.edu>; from L.
              Brooks on Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 11:42:53AM -0500
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Here's what I'd do:

(1) Go back to the newest known-clean version of the database from your
    backups. If you don't have a good known-clean version, this can mean going
    all the way to an empty phonebook, which you can create with
    menu/file/new.

(2) Use gdbdump to dump the old database (if any) to CSV format. Use gdbdump
    to dump the new, corrupt database to CSV. Subtract the records (if any)
    from the old database out of the new database. E.g.:

        tail +2l <old-but-good.csv | sort >old-tmp
        tail +2l <new-but-corrupt.csv | sort >new-tmp
        comm -13 old-tmp new-tmp >missing-records

    Now take a text editor to missing-records and make sure they look OK, if
    any of them appear to be trashed, fix 'em or delete 'em. I like at this
    point to do a little sanity checking; e.g.

        egrep -v '¬".*"$' missing-records
        perl -MText::CSV_XS -lne '
                BEGIN{$c=Text::CSV_XS->new}
                $c->parse($_) or die;
                @c=$c->fields;
                die if defined($t) and $t!=$#c;
                $t=$#c;
        '

    (untested). Now at this point you've got a known-clean database (possibly
    empty), and a known-clean CSV of records that need to be added to the
    database to bring it up-to-date. Remember to add that header record you
    tore off back onto the top.

(3) use gdbload to merge the missing records back into the clean db, and
    re-build the indices (by choosing each "Subset", one after another,
    starting with the "All Phone Book Items" default at the beginning of the
    list).

I've heard about garlic, but have never used it; the ability to go between gdb
and csv is so useful to me, I do it all the time, so I've grown to trust it;
since I can use it to clean corrupt databases, I do:-). Of course, if gdbdump
were to refuse to dump a corrupt db, I'd for sure try garlicing it to see if
the result tasted better to gdbdump. But since I've used gdbload enough to
really trust it, I don't think I'd try to extend the same degree of trust to
another program. Your mileage will vary.

-Bennett

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Got it!

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software


02h55m17s ago ...
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose eyesight
is
> slowly failing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

     Try ZOOM & ZOOMC both available on S.U.P.E.R.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:01:11 +0100, Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES> wrote:

> What is "ROFL !!!" ?

Rolling On the Floor Laughing

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
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Hmmm, any way this could be altered using debug? Just like the file manager
"close" fix?

Anyone?

Philippe :)


----- Original Message -----
From: Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Text wrapping in notes screen


>Philippe Lewis writes:
>> I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause text to wrap
to
>> the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems that it
always
>> wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and sometimes I
>> wish I could just write up to the edge!
>
>I don't think the default can be modified.
>
>Ted
>
>--
>Theodore Heise     <theise@netins.net>     West Lafayette, IN, USA
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zot2u@earthlink.net has a few left:
$35 ea. firm.


Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
> 2 years ago I purchased a Palmtop Snap-In Holder from Notebook
> Supply Warehouse. I have read that they have gotten out of the
> 200LX business.
> Does anybody have an idea where I can purchase 2 more of these
> extremely practical devices ?
> Or is there anybody who has some stored away somewhere who
> would be willing to sell them to me. In 1997 they were $8.95 a
> piece at NSW.
> Regards
> Winfried
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Southern California folks only!
zot2u@earthlink.net has a few left:
> $35 ea. firm.
>
> Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> >
> > Dear friends,
> > 2 years ago I purchased a Palmtop Snap-In Holder from Notebook
> > Supply Warehouse. I have read that they have gotten out of the
> > 200LX business.
> > Does anybody have an idea where I can purchase 2 more of these
> > extremely practical devices ?
> > Or is there anybody who has some stored away somewhere who
> > would be willing to sell them to me. In 1997 they were $8.95 a
> > piece at NSW.
> > Regards
> > Winfried
> >
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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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Magnify is a commercial product.  It magnifies a portion of the screen and
you have a movable window to catch what you want to see.

Zoom, is shareware, it magnifies the entire screen.  You still can move it
around to see more but it is kinda smart in that it normally magnifies the
part you want to see automatically based on cursor position or application.

The only downside, is you have to run MaxDos to use Zoom, and that confused
me a little until I got it worked out.

-Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software


>What's the difference?
>
>Philippe :)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:34 PM
>Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software
>
>
>>I bought Magnify, but I don't use it.  I prefer zoom much more.
>>
>>-Tim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>>Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:52 PM
>>Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software
>>
>>
>>02h55m17s ago ...
>>On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I'm looking for Magnify (made by Ace Software) for my Dad, whose
eyesight
>>is
>>> slowly failing.
>>>
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>>     Try ZOOM & ZOOMC both available on S.U.P.E.R.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
>>*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
>>*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
>>*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
>>*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX
>>
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Stan Blank, Ph.D. wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
>     Perhaps I need to check again, but it seems as though the system clock
> reset itself to 1/1/80 when I allowed (during an admittedly quick and
> unorganized test) to go from 11:59 pm on 12/31/99 to the new year.  Perhaps
> I have an older model (it is a 1 meg system purchased in the early part of
> 1995).  I did not check 123, but was more concerned about the system time
> and date.
>     I'll check it again to make sure that I'm not losing my mind (too many
> computers floating around my home and office <g>).
>     Thanks for the information.... and have a great weekend!
>
> Stan
Patrick wrote:
> >Stan,
> >
> >The 200lx is year 2000 compliant.  Even Lotus 123.
> >
> >What type of problems are you having?
> >

--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:12:10 -0800, "Philippe Lewis" <p.lewis@usa.net> wrote:

 > >In memo? Menu T Margins.
 > >
 >
 > Nope. I wish it was that easy. It's in Notetaker...

Sorry. No such setting available.

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:01:11 +0100, Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES> wrote:

 > > On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:31:28 +0100, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> wrote:
 > >
 > >  > >Yuck! :) ... All I can say
 > >  > >is "barflebits"...
 > >  >
 > >  > What is barflebits? It sound good!
 > >
 > > ROFL!!! Most englishe speakers would associate this word
 > > with another "barf", which has not so tasty connotations :)
 > > ...
 > What is "ROFL !!!" ?
 > What ist "barf" (not in COLLINS) ?
 > Mail privately if not LIST-correct !

Hmmm... Ok,,, Yuck is a colloquial expression of disgust.
barf is a colloquial expression denoting throwing up,
vomiting. ROFL is an acronym: Rolling On the Floor
Laughing.. I thought some of it would be more
cross-cultural, I live and learn...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

 > Winfried
 >
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Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
In-Reply-To:  Winfried Zettelmeyer's message of Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:56:32 +0100

Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES> wrote:
> 2 years ago I purchased a Palmtop Snap-In Holder from Notebook
> Supply Warehouse. I have read that they have gotten out of the
> 200LX business.
> Does anybody have an idea where I can purchase 2 more of these
> extremely practical devices ?

I bought one from Mitch a couple or three weeks ago.  Its bag has a
label that says it came from Autel Corporation in Sunnyvale, CA USA
and that its part code is HP-HLDR.  Sunnyvale is not too far away from
me so I looked up their phone number, which is +1 650 964 9852.  So I
called them and inquired whether they still sell the things and how
someone in Spain could buy a couple.

They say they do still sell them, they can ship by post and that they
may be reached via e-mail at autel@prodigy.com.  They need name,
address, and credit card information to take an order.  I didn't
inquire about which credit cards they accept or their prices.

Hope this helps.

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I have posted this request elsewhere, so please excuse any duplicates you
may have seen.

Does anyone know whether Grandview, the "outliner" from Symantec, is Y2K
compliant. I saw a mention that parts were not whether any specifics.

I am interested in reloading it on my HP and giving it another try, but
don't want to invest lots of time if the features I am interested in will
go haywire on 1/1/00.

TIA

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:35:10 -0800, Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM> wrote:

 > Zoom, is shareware, it magnifies the entire screen.  You still can move it
 > around to see more but it is kinda smart in that it normally magnifies the
 > part you want to see automatically based on cursor position or application.

As does Magnify, using the same methodology. Actually, ZOOM
is an imitation Magnify.

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 D&A Software, Inc.

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:09:47 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> wrote:

 > Hmmm, any way this could be altered using debug? Just like the file manager
 > "close" fix?

Sure ;-) .... You'll need DEBUG Version Chisel. This is the
special Debug version which can alter etched chips. It will
then go into the D:\ drive (the ROM, the chip) and chisel
around the instruction and make it different.

I have no idea where Debug/Chisel can be downloaded! :)





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Could anyone please help me?

- What input voltage the HP300LX palmtop has from the A/C charger?
- Are there any shareware programs which can be installed on it?
- Can I install an old WIN 3.1 program on it?
- Can it use the same Flash card as the HP95LX did?
- Where cen I get more info on this computer?

Thanks in advance...

Steve

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How can I use the build in IR to transfer my files from HP48G to HP200LX?
Thanks for the help in advance.

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Sometimes it happens when you copy files in sysapps dos
shell to A: when the file is not completely closed.
If you notice a file size unclosed the close there is a
difference. That may be a reason.  I don't know where
all the sysapps programmers are that could explain
some of these things so its a matter of encountering
and gussing.

Best is to close completely and make daily backups.
At least you can recover easily.

I have about 100 DBs with 1-600 records each with few
problems so far.   (Knocking on wood won't help with
corrupt DBs after a coupla hours work.)

yor pal al..............


>2.  Is there a way to check the integrity of the files?
Go into DB and down arrow A to Z.  If the is a (bad)
problem, you stop on that record.



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Date:         Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:35:29 -0600
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Someone n the list was recently inquiring about a "snap on case" that cost
about $8.95.

I was looking through some old Palmtop Papers and came across the following:

The manufacturer is :
Autel Corp
Mountain View CA
408-738-8204
autel@prodigy.com

The info is from mid-1997 so it may be obsolete today.

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If I recall correctly, Autel faxed me a lot of literature about a year ago
on all their products.  It may not indicate that they're still in
business, but it's more recent than mid-1997.  :)

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Leslie Cohn wrote:
>
> I can't get BATTLOG to graph.  I've loaded it and can see the graph, but it
> doesn't plot.  Any suggestions?
>
> Also, which battery program is everyone's *favorite*?
>
> Les
>
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Leslie! I think ABC/LX is one of the best batt prog ie gives you
charging times,monitors
your batt's,gives you a graph called abc graph
 try it I am sure you will like it.     Bob Elliott Jr

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 08:30:06 +0100
Reply-To:     Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
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> ......   If you use it and your
> Post/LX fails, take out the font treatment and try again,
> this feature will not be supported. Please don't write with
> these problems, I will just ignore it, or send you some of
> my better flames :) ...
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

That's like Adam and Eve in paradise .... they had to try it.

 Hermann

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 10:15:18 +0200
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              David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: 4DOS installation woes
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> When I drop out of the system manager I get 4DOS. Also, when I create a
> create a maxdos session at the & I also get 4DOS. Only when I drop to
> dos using the & D do I get MS-Dos 5.0. Probably because it's hard
> mapped on ROM... Maybe Buddy can remap it, if you really need it at the
> & D...  Personally, I wrote a macro for Fn F10, which exits the system
> manager, and that works well for me...
>
> >
> > However, when I try to access DOS via Ý&¨-ÝD¨ or ÝCtrl¨-Ý123¨
> > I get the internal DOS5 (from D:).
> >
> > Has anyone been able to access 4DOS without using SC ?
> >
>
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>
I know that you can tell the system to use a command.com on drive C: using
the shell command in config.sys. So why not RENAME 4DOS to Command.com
OR write a small command.com program which will invoke 4DOS. Just a thought.
You might want to be ready to CTRL-SHIFT_ON though :)


=======================
David & Irit Becher
davidb@netmedia.net.il
=======================

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:29:12 +0100
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
Comments: To: "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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I would try the Menu/file/Copy... function in Phonebook first and
would examine the generated file using Phonebook for that.

 Hermann

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:19:01 +0100
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Text wrapping in notes screen
Comments: To: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Notes is a special kind of the genaral data base (GDB) and the
Notes-field behaves in the same way in both applications.

 Set up a GDB file f.ex. with Menu/File/New...,
 then change it, using Menu/File/change ...,
 use Tab,Tab,.. to select the Note-field,
 use F4 (?? Bearb in German) to chnage the field name from '&Note' to
'&N'
 use Ctrl right-arrow to blow up horizontal size to its maximum
 save yous settings (F10, F10)

 Enter text into an N-field of an entry and you'll see: there is no
difference in line wrapping.
 This is also true for making the horizontal size smaller (to use big
font).

Conclusion: Line length in Note-Fields in (all kinds of) data bases
is an internal HPx00LX parameter in ROM.
 Right? or Wrong?

Hermann

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
> Philippe Lewis
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 2:25 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Text wrapping in notes screen
>
>
> Wow, this is a fast list. Great!
>
> I'm trying to find out how to change the settings that cause
> text to wrap to
> the next line when in the notes screen on the HP200LX. Seems
> that it always
> wraps 10-15 characters from the right edge of the screen, and
> sometimes I
> wish I could just write up to the edge!
>
> Any help, again, would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe :)
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:33:35 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> When I drop out of the system manager I get 4DOS. Also, when I create a
> create a maxdos session at the & I also get 4DOS. Only when I drop to
> dos using the & D do I get MS-Dos 5.0. Probably because it's hard

What is your COMSPEC environment variable set to?  Before
starting Sysmgr type SET from the DOS prompt.  If it says
COMMAND.COM then that is possibly your problem.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 22:55:17 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, david.eggins@USA.NET
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From:         David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX questions
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2 days 13h11m01s ago ...
On Wed,  3 Mar 1999 11:00:44 +0000 (GMT), d.hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> =
wrote:

>
> I've got two problems with POST/LX 2.2a:
>
> (1) Sometimes I try to connect to my ISP using F5 (online)
>     I get a connection but after the message "connection
>     establshed" the program pauses a while (about half a
>     minute) and then the window of Post/LX appears with
>     the message "waiting from hello from server". Here it
>     stops. I must press Ctrl to interrupt this an then
>     Post/LX hangs up the modem and reports an online error.
>     If I try to connect once more, it everytime works at the
>     second attempt and I get my connection in seconds!
>     Maybe this is a problem with my ISP? It's NOT the problem
>     that the ISP the first time I try to connect is too busy
>     or something like that: this had to be a very improbable
>     coincidence!
>
>

I sometimes get this too.  About 50% of the time I log on.  My solution
is to tell POST LX not to log off after being Online.  When I hit Ctrl,
post stays online, and I just hit F5 again.

In my case, it may (or may not) be my mail provider.  I am using the POP
serrvice in Geocities to receive mail.

On another topic, I was using Netaddress as a free POP provider, and
eventually gave up on them, because the downloaded messages do not get
deleted until the end of the mail run.  This is annoying, because the
more messages in the mailox, the more chances I have of not getting
them in one go, and It was possible to not get them down, and I also
had to find all the duplicates.

David Eggins

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 07:45:40 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Many, many years ago I transferred files from the 48SX to the 95LX (both
machines are now gone). I recall that it involved using the built in Kerm=
it
subset on both machines.  The process was unreliable, IMO.   I finally ga=
ve
up and got a second cable and a gender changer. Wire transfers worked OK
but they were slow.  Hopefully, others will share more recent experiences=
.

.ed.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:04:51 +1100
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From:         David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....  (HP360LX)
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20h27m44s ago ...
On Fri,  5 Mar 1999 18:01:11 +0100 (MET), Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmey=
er@MICROCAD.ES> wrote:

> > On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:31:28 +0100, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@data=
comm.ch> wrote:
> >
> >  > >Yuck! :) ... All I can say
> >  > >is "barflebits"...
> >  >
> >  > What is barflebits? It sound good!
> >
> > ROFL!!! Most englishe speakers would associate this word
> > with another "barf", which has not so tasty connotations :)
> > ...
> What is "ROFL !!!" ?
>
Rolling On the Floor Laughing. This is Email abreviation.  I made a HPLX
database with all of these which I knew of at the time, and posted
them to the www.palmtop.net database page a while ago if you want
to take a look.


> What ist "barf" (not in COLLINS) ?
>
Barf is English slang for brechen (if I got the German correct, I am
still learning.)


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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:05:57 -0800
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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The Yahoo Yellow Pages gives:

Autel Corp
651 Princeton Dr
Sunnyvale, CA
(650) 964-9852

Wayne

Alan Peres wrote:

> Someone n the list was recently inquiring about a "snap on case" that cost
> about $8.95.
>
> I was looking through some old Palmtop Papers and came across the following:
>
> The manufacturer is :
> Autel Corp
> Mountain View CA
> 408-738-8204
> autel@prodigy.com
>
> The info is from mid-1997 so it may be obsolete today.
>
> Alan
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 07:36:47 -0600
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              "Nickum, Roy H." <NickumRH@BV.COM>
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> L. Brooks wrote:
>
> PROBLEM STATEMENT
> This morning I found some searching problems.  When I attempted to find a
> name that starts "Broo..." I had no problems by typing in B R O.  However,
> when I try to find a name that starts with "GM " I get a beep as soon as I
> type any letter after the G.  The records look OK on the screen, but no
> character after the G is accepted.
>
> SAME PROBLEM WITH CPACK
> I tried the same G search on the file using CPACK and had the same
> problem.
> A version of the phone book that I backed up last week had no problems.
>
A very simple answer may be that you don't have any current phone book
records that match "GM".  The automatic search function in the "phone"
application will "beep" as soon as it fails to match a character.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:42:58 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      Panasonic S-10 tablet: almost a 200LX successor?

    Hello all,

Anyone seen or used the Panasonic S-10, an A/5 size, 0.7lbs PC
with 486/16MHz and 5,5" mono LCD? Has DOS7 in 4MB ROM, 2MB RAM
and uses pen input, should run 25hr on batteries. Tablet shape.

Well, pen input and 480x320 screen is no-no, otherwise comes
quite close to what we expect from a 200LX successor (except
color LCD). Don't know, if it has backlighting and if PCMCIA is
TypeII or TypeIII.

Someone wrote that a standard 101-key PC keyboard with serial
converter and driver from DIN-5 or mini-DIN (aka PS/2) might be
the solution for 200LX external keyboard. I don't think so.
It should be small enough to be portable, not bigger than the
keyboard of a regular notebook. That's why Apple Newton's one
was popular. The regular 101-keyer is just huge and heavy.

            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:09:14 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date Sat, 6 Mar 1999 01:24:06 -0500
From jacques@uece.br (Francisco Jacques Furtado de Andrade Filho)

> Subscriber Comments: I'd like to know if that PCMCIA type II Sharp
> digital camera that came into the market with Sharp's new WINDOWS-CE
> palmtop works reasonably inside an HP200LX PCMCIA slot.
> ...

--- end of forwarded message ---

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:37:26 -0500
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              "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
Comments: To: "Nickum, Roy H." <NickumRH@BV.COM>
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Thanks for the good thought Roy.  Sometimes the simplest answers are the
best.  In this case, however, I could scroll down a few records and get the
entry that I was looking for.

Just this morning the database became sicker with blank records showing.
When I scrolled down to them, I got an error message "Record not found."

Thanks to all for the good suggestions.  I'm going to give them a try and
will post the results.

Thank goodness for regular backups.  That's why we do them.

L. Brooks

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> Nickum, Roy H.
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 1999 8:37 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
>
>
> > L. Brooks wrote:
> >
> > PROBLEM STATEMENT
> > This morning I found some searching problems.  When I attempted
> to find a
> > name that starts "Broo..." I had no problems by typing in B R
> O.  However,
> > when I try to find a name that starts with "GM " I get a beep
> as soon as I
> > type any letter after the G.  The records look OK on the screen, but no
> > character after the G is accepted.
> >
> > SAME PROBLEM WITH CPACK
> > I tried the same G search on the file using CPACK and had the same
> > problem.
> > A version of the phone book that I backed up last week had no problems.
> >
> A very simple answer may be that you don't have any current phone book
> records that match "GM".  The automatic search function in the "phone"
> application will "beep" as soon as it fails to match a character.
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:07:29 -0500
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
Subject:      Input appreciated: 100LX serial port problems
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Hi, all.

If there's anyone on the list who is a real hardware guru when it comes to
the 100LX, I could use use some direction.  Here's the situation.

Coming back from a cross-country flight and running to catch a shuttle, my
palmtop lept out of my pocket and tried to commit suicide.  When I had a
chance to check it I discovered horizontal and vertical bars flickering on
the screen instead of a normal display.  (Fortunately I was on the way
home, so I was able to survive; had this happened on the way out I would
have been lost!)

Once I got home and had some time, I *carefully* pulled the machine apart
(I am an embedded systems engineer and a Certified Electronics Technician)
and started looking for broken PC traces, etc.  I eventually discovered
that the display itself had separated from the contacts in the "lid."
Interestingly, there was sticky "gunk" all over the contacts, which perhaps
leeched from the rubbery pad underneath that is stuck in place.  Cleaning
out the foreign material and carefully reassembling things once again gave
me a functional 100LX.

Almost.

When I tried to reload the machine from a backup via the serial port, I
couldn't get it to talk.  I eventually fired up my protocol analyzer and
'scope, and here's what I discovered.  The port is basically functional.
If I don't hook anything to it, I can send data the analyzer can read.  The
voltage swing is from -6V for a space to +6V for a mark (I would have
expected more like +/- 9V).  However, if I connect it to my PC, the port
pretty much goes dead.  Dropping a 1K load across the TXD line from the
100LX drops the voltage swing from +/-6V to +/-4V.

Given that this is the same PC I've always backed up on, the fact that it
still talks to other serial devices, and that things were working before
the incident, I think it's safe to assume the PC is okay.  It appears that
the 100LX serial port isn't supplying enough current/voltage, but I can't
swear to that without knowing what it's *supposed* to be doing.

So that's the setup, here are the questions:  Does anyone have experience
with serial port death on this machine (or the 200, which I assume would be
pretty similar; maybe even the 95 for that matter).  Any suggestions as to
what inverter transistors, etc., to check?  Does anyone have actual
*schematics* for these machines?

I'm really lost without my palmtop.  Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Rick

P.S. If someone has either a working 100LX they'd like to sell *or* a
machine with a dead display that they know would work otherwise, I am
interested in talking to you.  This incident has shown me that I need a
backup unit.  And if I can't fix this serial port, I can swap the main
board and get functional that way.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:19:41 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM>
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See this article at the HP web site:

http://www.hp.com/calculators/service/ir_transfer.html
<http://www.hp.com/calculators/service/ir_transfer.html>

Ken Lewis

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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:33:35 GMT, Russel Brooks wrote:

>> When I drop out of the system manager I get 4DOS. Also, when I create a
>> create a maxdos session at the & I also get 4DOS. Only when I drop to
>> dos using the & D do I get MS-Dos 5.0. Probably because it's hard
>
>What is your COMSPEC environment variable set to?  Before
>starting Sysmgr type SET from the DOS prompt.  If it says
>COMMAND.COM then that is possibly your problem.

No, that wasn't it (as 4DOS automatically sets COMSPEC properly).

Mack sent me a message offline that got it fixed.  I wasn't allowing
enough memory; I now have the SysMgr iconized 4DOS setupt to
allow for max memory (with just a  "|" and nothing after it) and it
works fine (without resorting to MaxDos or any other heroics).

Mack confirmed that Ctrl-123 or &-D are both "hardwired" to
D:\dos\COMMAND.COM, and cannot be altered (they don't
respect COMSPEC).

I have the same CONFIG.SYS (with D:\dos\COMMAND.COM
in the SHELL statement).  I now have a new SysMgr entry for
4DOS, and it now works fine.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:37:18 -0500
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:35:10 -0800, Tim Shephard wrote:

>The only downside, is you have to run MaxDos to use Zoom, and that confused
>me a little until I got it worked out.

Just to clarify for any readers who may be making a decision to
try Zoom based on the above:  Zoom does not require MaxDos to
get Zoom to work.   I am running Zoom without MaxDos.

I purchased Magnify! several years ago.  I just found Zoom in the
past week (owing to messages in this conference).  I like Zoom so
much better than Magnify! that I have now REMarked it out of
AUTOEXEC.BAT.

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:15:29 -0800, A Meshar wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:35:10 -0800, Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM> wrote:
>
> > Zoom, is shareware, it magnifies the entire screen.  You still can move it
> > around to see more but it is kinda smart in that it normally magnifies the
> > part you want to see automatically based on cursor position or application.
>
>As does Magnify, using the same methodology. Actually, ZOOM
>is an imitation Magnify.

Magnify's "lens" cannot be made as large as Zoom's (Zoom takes over
the entire screen, allowing you to see several lines magnified, while
Magnify can only be made to enlarge a small area).   Bought Magnify
several years ago; found Zoom 2 weeks ago; just REMarked Magnify
out of AUTOEXEC.BAT yesterday.

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Bruce,

In the same way, NoteTaker and Memo are "hardwired" to the Memo key (and
Ctrl-Memo), but those can be overridden using the built-in key200 program (in
D:\BIN)...there's also a small TXT file there to describe it's operation...I use
it all the time to swap my Memo/NoteTaker keys (one of the examples) and also
re-programmed my left-shift key so that used in concert with the "home" or
"end", it does a "Ctrl-Shift-Home" or "Ctrl-Shift-End"...always a tangled
combination for me (this selects everthing from the current cursor location to
the top left or bottom right).

I just played with it a bit and this entry:

     Ctrl 123 : ¬Ctrl Ctrl ¬Ctrl More =

replaces the normal Ctrl-123 with pressing "More" and then the "=" (equal) key,
where I have an icon programmed for Jorgen Wallgren's HP-ALARM program.
You can make it do likewise with your 4DOS icon.

Also, in regards to the hardwired "&-D" for DOS, if you move your 4DOS icon to
BEFORE the DOS icon, the &-D should find yours first.

- Longden





Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM> on 03/06/99 09:34:07 AM

Please respond to Bruce Francis <bfrancis@pobox.com>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Re: 4DOS installation woes




On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:33:35 GMT, Russel Brooks wrote:

>> When I drop out of the system manager I get 4DOS. Also, when I create a
>> create a maxdos session at the & I also get 4DOS. Only when I drop to
>> dos using the & D do I get MS-Dos 5.0. Probably because it's hard
>
>What is your COMSPEC environment variable set to?  Before
>starting Sysmgr type SET from the DOS prompt.  If it says
>COMMAND.COM then that is possibly your problem.

No, that wasn't it (as 4DOS automatically sets COMSPEC properly).

Mack sent me a message offline that got it fixed.  I wasn't allowing
enough memory; I now have the SysMgr iconized 4DOS setupt to
allow for max memory (with just a  "|" and nothing after it) and it
works fine (without resorting to MaxDos or any other heroics).

Mack confirmed that Ctrl-123 or &-D are both "hardwired" to
D:\dos\COMMAND.COM, and cannot be altered (they don't
respect COMSPEC).

I have the same CONFIG.SYS (with D:\dos\COMMAND.COM
in the SHELL statement).  I now have a new SysMgr entry for
4DOS, and it now works fine.

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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      ZOOM docs

I would like to try ZOOM, but the version I have (ZOOM110.zip) has docs in
Japanese.  Are there docs in English?  Otherwise, how does one use ZOOM?

Thanks.


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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Hi all,

AOL has a mailing list for PDAs, in the latest there is an article about the
200LX. For those who wish to subscribe:

  LISTSERV@LISTSERV.AOL.COM

and put the following text in the BODY of the message

   SUBSCRIBE PDA-L

They don't often have 200LX stuff, but do advertise new etexts!

I have just cut and pasted, I hope AOL doesn't sue me... :-)


*******************************
PDA SURVIVAL TIP

Backing Up HP200LX Databases as Text

by Craig de Fasselle (PDA Craig)

The HP200LX (and HP100LX) Palmtop PC uses a proprietary
format for the built-in database applications, including
Phone Book and Appointment files. Should you lose or break
your palmtop, backups will be unreadable by standard
desktop programs. Although rare, phone and appointment
files occasionally become corrupted, and the problem may
not show up immediately. Unless you have been keeping each
backup rather than overwriting old backups with new, you
may find your backup file is corrupted, too.
A good practice for critical phone, appointment, and
database files is to periodically export them as comma
delimited text files. These files can be read by almost any
platform, and be imported into many desktop programs or even
other PDAs. A trio of "must have" utilities, DBUTIL, ADBIO,
and DBIO, allow text export and import of the HP database
files.

DBUTIL consists of two programs, GDBDump and GDBLoad. Dump
exports your HP phonebook or database into comma delimited
text; Load imports comma delimited text into the HP
database format. ADBIO's ADBDump and ADBLoad operate in the
same manner with the HP Appointment book.

These programs all operate under DOS, using a series of
letter codes to specify various import-export options. If
you do not use these programs often, or simply don't like
life from the command line, it can be difficult to remember
the proper syntax. That's where DBIO comes in.
DBIO provides an intuitive graphic interface for the
database dump and load programs. Simply launch it from
Filer, and select the desired option from the menu labels
above the Fkeys. Once selected, DBIO takes you through a
series of dialog boxes, allowing you to select and name
files as well as selecting the desired options. It is a
quick and easy way of using any of the DBUTIL or ADBIO
utilities to convert HP databases to comma delimited text
files.

So in addition to regular backups of your key database
files, I recommend making comma delimited text backups at
least once a month. Should anything happen to your HP or
database files, the text versions will save you a great
deal of work.

Craig de Fasselle (PDA Craig)

PDA Forum

Copyright 1999 by America Online, Inc. All rights reserved


Enjoy!

Franklin

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:48:20 -0600
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> Hello List People:
>
> I posted awhile ago about a hinge that is too tight. Thank
> you all for all the advice. I had tried oil, and it just
> did not do a thing. I had WD40 and squirted a very very
> small amount, two-three drops. Soon after starting to work
> the hing, it began to loosen up and eventually seemd to
> stabilise at a tightness that was ok for me.
>
> So it worked, so far :) ..
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

Avi,

I did this on one of mine in the past.  If the lid starts to fall back
when you want it to stay in place, you can reverse the WD-40 process
with a small drop of rubbing alcohol.  FYI.




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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 10:50:40 -0800
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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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My mistake.  I meant MoreEXM.  You have to run MoreEXM to make zoom work.
Personally I just had a little trouble with that, but now its running great.

I too purchase Magnify, but I use zoom.  I would suggest trying zoom, before
buying magnify and see if it meets your needs.

-Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Francis <bfrancis@pobox.com>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Magnify by Ace Software


>On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:35:10 -0800, Tim Shephard wrote:
>
>>The only downside, is you have to run MaxDos to use Zoom, and that
confused
>>me a little until I got it worked out.
>
>Just to clarify for any readers who may be making a decision to
>try Zoom based on the above:  Zoom does not require MaxDos to
>get Zoom to work.   I am running Zoom without MaxDos.
>
>I purchased Magnify! several years ago.  I just found Zoom in the
>past week (owing to messages in this conference).  I like Zoom so
>much better than Magnify! that I have now REMarked it out of
>AUTOEXEC.BAT.
>
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For sale:

EXP PCMCIA modem model #336E the "Data Traveler"
------------------------------------------------
Works with DOS, WinCE, Win3.X, Win95.
Complies with PC card Type II standard.
Direct connect to phone line RJ-11 jack.
Power consumption: Operating: 5V, 180ma; Standby: 5V, 14ma.
Bundled battery pack uses two AA batteries to extend operating
        time up to two hours.
Battery Pack LED indicator monitor power status.
Data mode protocols: CCITTY V.17, V.29, V.27, TER, V.21, CH2 and
        Group III.
Error correction: V.42 LAPM, MNP2-4.
Fata compression: V.42bis, NMP5.
Cellular Protocol NMP10-EC (enhanced cellular).
Modem speed: 300, 1200, 9600, 14,400, 28,800, 33,000 and up to
        134,400bps with MNP5 and V.42bis.
Fax speed 14,400bps.

This modem is advertised on EXP's web site (www.expnet.com) as
supporting CE Handheld PCs, HP200LX, as well as DOS, Win95, etc.
External battery pack is not needed when the palmtop is itself on
AC power.

Originally $199.95.  Will sell for best offer over $150.

Reply off list, please.

        Bob Pigford
        profengr@delanet.com

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Sounds interesting, especially the battery pack (how big is it?).

EXP's advertisement notwithstanding, has anyone actually used this in the 200LX?

At 180ma, it sounds like it's pushing the slot which is rated at only
150ma....is the AC a REQUIREMENT to run the card (sans battery pack) on the
200LX?

- Longden





"Robert H. Pigford" <profengr@DELANET.COM> on 03/06/99 11:06:01 AM

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Subject:  FS EXP336E Data Traveler PCMCIA Modem




For sale:

EXP PCMCIA modem model #336E the "Data Traveler"
------------------------------------------------
Works with DOS, WinCE, Win3.X, Win95.
Complies with PC card Type II standard.
Direct connect to phone line RJ-11 jack.
Power consumption: Operating: 5V, 180ma; Standby: 5V, 14ma.
Bundled battery pack uses two AA batteries to extend operating
        time up to two hours.
Battery Pack LED indicator monitor power status.
Data mode protocols: CCITTY V.17, V.29, V.27, TER, V.21, CH2 and
        Group III.
Error correction: V.42 LAPM, MNP2-4.
Fata compression: V.42bis, NMP5.
Cellular Protocol NMP10-EC (enhanced cellular).
Modem speed: 300, 1200, 9600, 14,400, 28,800, 33,000 and up to
        134,400bps with MNP5 and V.42bis.
Fax speed 14,400bps.

This modem is advertised on EXP's web site (www.expnet.com) as
supporting CE Handheld PCs, HP200LX, as well as DOS, Win95, etc.
External battery pack is not needed when the palmtop is itself on
AC power.

Originally $199.95.  Will sell for best offer over $150.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 16:16:52 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat,  6 Mar 1999 16:11:47 -0500 (EST)

Hi group-

There has been a lot of discussion about the ZOOM software.  Actually
there are TWO Zoom progs.  AFAIK both are on SUPER.

ZOOM110 is an EXM, and works with MoreEXM.
ZOOMC is a DOS TSR and works in (I think) both in SysMgr and DOS.

HTH

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 11:37 AM 6/03/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks for the good thought Roy.  Sometimes the simplest answers are the
>best.  In this case, however, I could scroll down a few records and get the
>entry that I was looking for.
>
>Just this morning the database became sicker with blank records showing.
>When I scrolled down to them, I got an error message "Record not found."


I had this problem a while ago.. It happened when I backed up the file
without closing it first.  Had 2 records that were blank/garbage and some
records would search and some would not.

To solve it I had to copy/past each "good" record to a new DB with same
field characteristics.

To do this I wrote a simple macro..

Cut record
open new file
paste record
open original.

It took some time but was the fastest and simplest I found as I could not
export the "damaged" DB any way.


The good news is I only lost 2 records out of nearly 300.

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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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The first thing that I would do would be to take apart the lx again and make
sure you didn't short out the serial port with the foil shield that is
supposed to surround it not touch it.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Rae <RickRae@usa.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 9:16 AM
Subject: Input appreciated: 100LX serial port problems


>Hi, all.
>
>If there's anyone on the list who is a real hardware guru when it comes to
>the 100LX, I could use use some direction.  Here's the situation.
>
>Coming back from a cross-country flight and running to catch a shuttle, my
>palmtop lept out of my pocket and tried to commit suicide.  When I had a
>chance to check it I discovered horizontal and vertical bars flickering on
>the screen instead of a normal display.  (Fortunately I was on the way
>home, so I was able to survive; had this happened on the way out I would
>have been lost!)
>
>Once I got home and had some time, I *carefully* pulled the machine apart
>(I am an embedded systems engineer and a Certified Electronics Technician)
>and started looking for broken PC traces, etc.  I eventually discovered
>that the display itself had separated from the contacts in the "lid."
>Interestingly, there was sticky "gunk" all over the contacts, which perhaps
>leeched from the rubbery pad underneath that is stuck in place.  Cleaning
>out the foreign material and carefully reassembling things once again gave
>me a functional 100LX.
>
>Almost.
>
>When I tried to reload the machine from a backup via the serial port, I
>couldn't get it to talk.  I eventually fired up my protocol analyzer and
>'scope, and here's what I discovered.  The port is basically functional.
>If I don't hook anything to it, I can send data the analyzer can read.  The
>voltage swing is from -6V for a space to +6V for a mark (I would have
>expected more like +/- 9V).  However, if I connect it to my PC, the port
>pretty much goes dead.  Dropping a 1K load across the TXD line from the
>100LX drops the voltage swing from +/-6V to +/-4V.
>
>Given that this is the same PC I've always backed up on, the fact that it
>still talks to other serial devices, and that things were working before
>the incident, I think it's safe to assume the PC is okay.  It appears that
>the 100LX serial port isn't supplying enough current/voltage, but I can't
>swear to that without knowing what it's *supposed* to be doing.
>
>So that's the setup, here are the questions:  Does anyone have experience
>with serial port death on this machine (or the 200, which I assume would be
>pretty similar; maybe even the 95 for that matter).  Any suggestions as to
>what inverter transistors, etc., to check?  Does anyone have actual
>*schematics* for these machines?
>
>I'm really lost without my palmtop.  Any input will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Rick
>
>P.S. If someone has either a working 100LX they'd like to sell *or* a
>machine with a dead display that they know would work otherwise, I am
>interested in talking to you.  This incident has shown me that I need a
>backup unit.  And if I can't fix this serial port, I can swap the main
>board and get functional that way.
>
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Hello all,

I have two questions

1)  The Collins Dictionary from Thaddeus, is it English English or
American English?

2)  I have been looking for the free version of the WINDI dictionary.
It looks like it is no longer on their site.  If someone on the list
has it, and would like to get a copy to me either using email or web
site, I would be very greatful.  I like the fact that this dictionary
used the same data files for the dos and the purchased Windows version.


Thank you

David Eggins

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:34:44 +1100
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Hello All,

I am thinking about getting a Digital Video camera in the next 6 months.

One thing I would like to do with it is to take some stills, and put
them on my web page.

I would like to know if anyone has any info on the possibility of
connecting a DVideo to the HPLX to upload stills.  At this stage, I
assume I am totally off the plannet in even dreaming this is possible.
:-(

The only other possibility for me is that I have a digital still camera
with me as well, but with a normal camera, digital camera, and digital =
video
camera, as well as the HPLX, this gets a bit bulky, and expensive...

David Eggins

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:39:33 +1100
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Hello again.

I am using the screen saver program which starts another program after
a given period of no user interaction.

This is a brilliant idea.  I only have one problem with it.  It steps
in while I am on an onine run with PostLX.  Is there any way this
program could also check for that kind of activity, and not activate
screen saver?

I use the screen saver with the Geo clock program while at work, and it
looks great.

Thanks,

David Eggins.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:24:11 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Word Processing

Jeff Johns writes:
> I'm curious as to what the most popular/most used word processing software
> is for use on the LX? I love PE and it is my favorite editor, but I am
> currently involved in writing an article to appear in a technical
> publication and am open for suggestions for word processing software.

This is sort of late, but here's my take on it.  I use Memo for
most palmtop writing (E-mail, notes, etc.).  For documents, I use
WordPerfect 5.1, for several reasons.  First, we use WP for Windows
at work so I can take documents with me when I travel pretty
readily by "saving as" in 5.1 format.  Second, WP5.1 has been a
*widely* used package and is a format that is importable to, and
exportable from, many word processors.  Third, I know the program
quite well, having used it for many years and having also written
my dissertation with it.

Ted

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:18:05 -0600
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Bob:
I could not find ABC/LX on the SUPER site, how do you get it.  Does anyone
else think ABC/LX is better than BATTLOG?  Also... any suggestions on how I
can get BATTLOG to plot?

Les
>I think ABC/LX is one of the best batt prog ie gives you charging
times,monitors
>your batt's,gives you a graph called abc graph  try it I am sure you will
like it.
>

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:20:55 -0600
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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There are two BATTLOG programs on the SUPER site.  One is called an "update"
do you need to load the first version and the update - or does the update
supercede the first version.

Les

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:31:22 -0600
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Already found my answer. ABCDEMO (SUPER Site) has it all.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:05:10 -0800
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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:19:01 +0100, Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de> wrote:

Hermann,

 > Conclusion: Line length in Note-Fields in (all kinds of) data bases
 > is an internal HPx00LX parameter in ROM.
 >  Right? or Wrong?

Right.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:05:07 -0800
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Subject:      Re: POST/LX line wrap
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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 08:30:06 +0100, Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de> wrote:

 > > ......   If you use it and your
 > > Post/LX fails, take out the font treatment and try again,
 > > this feature will not be supported. Please don't write with

 Ý...¨

 > That's like Adam and Eve in paradise .... they had to try it.

ROFL!!! Indeed. Some are tempted, some are not. It did not
want to be the instigator of the temptation. I admit, the
other fonts really help in reading, but there is also the
slight issue of memory :( ...

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:05:16 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Magnify by Ace Software
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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:40:13 -0500, Bruce Francis <bfrancis@pobox.com> wrote:

 > Magnify's "lens" cannot be made as large as Zoom's (Zoom takes over
 > the entire screen, allowing you to see several lines magnified, while
 > Magnify can only be made to enlarge a small area).   Bought Magnify
 > several years ago; found Zoom 2 weeks ago; just REMarked Magnify
 > out of AUTOEXEC.BAT yesterday.

Correct. I posted because there was an impression that
Magnify lacks the capability when indeed that feature and
others were simply lifted from Magnify by the Zoom authors.

Magnify is a great product. It is well supported. It fits
in with the needs of many many customers. My company is
very proud that we have this product among our excellent
programs.

It obviously did not fit your needs. To each his own. I can
respect that.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:05:12 -0800
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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 22:55:17 +1100, David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET> wrote:

 > I sometimes get this too.  About 50% of the time I log on.  My solution
 > is to tell POST LX not to log off after being Online.  When I hit Ctrl,
 > post stays online, and I just hit F5 again.
 >
 > In my case, it may (or may not) be my mail provider.  I am using the POP
 > serrvice in Geocities to receive mail.

I use about 10 ISPs now. In some cases my connection is
flawless. In others it has multiple such occurences. It is
quite annoying, but it is DEFINITELY not something Post/LX
does. The program is smart and all that, but dumb enough to
do the same thing over and over, each time you tell it. So
unless something changes on the palmtop or in the program,
the only other cause is something outside the program.

I have been in this many many times. I have one ISP which
is maddening. When I call their direct number (long
distance) I get impeccable connections! When I call the
local numbers they setup with some "allied" companies I
sometimes need as many as 15 logins to get 20 messages!!!

They have been unable / unwilling to solve it, and I am
about to dump them and take my business somewhere else!

I have no solution for this, sorry. I even experience some
of this on the Windoes dialler / TCP/IP stack, but not as
often..

 > On another topic, I was using Netaddress as a free POP provider, and
 > eventually gave up on them, because the downloaded messages do not get
 > deleted until the end of the mail run.  This is annoying, because the
 > more messages in the mailox, the more chances I have of not getting
 > them in one go, and It was possible to not get them down, and I also
 > had to find all the duplicates.

Me too. I had two email address on Netaddress (usa.net, I
believe). The wait times were as much as 6 minutes to get
anything out of them, and I have simply lost patience,
especially since the service was not that hot.

It is really getting to be difficult to find a reliable
connection any more that also does not cost an arm and a
leg!

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:05:19 -0800
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Subject:      Re: FS EXP336E Data Traveler PCMCIA Modem
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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:29:16 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

 > EXP's advertisement notwithstanding, has anyone actually used this in the
 > 200LX?

I have several customers who do. Successfully!

I think the power comes from the battery pack, not for
PCMCIA Chassis. No you don't have to be on the AC adapter,
but you have to be using the battery pack!

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:05:03 -0800
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:55:31 -0800, bob1 <camba1@pacbell.net> wrote:

 > Leslie! I think ABC/LX is one of the best batt prog ie gives you
 > charging times,monitors
 > your batt's,gives you a graph called abc graph
 >  try it I am sure you will like it.     Bob Elliott Jr

Bob,

Thank you for the plug of our program. We like it a lot. It
is also our first program, and so we are very proud of it.

You recommended to Leslie Cohn to try it. There is a demo
version of the program. This is info for Leslie and you,
and anyone else interested!

hrrp://www.dasoft.com then click on the ABC/LX Icon (shows
a voltmeter and a battery) then click on the ABC Demo link.

Some things to know about ythe demo: It is the full code,
but it will run only for 30 hours of _user time_ The eay
"user time" is counted is simple. Each time you press at
least one key on the keyboard, that minute is counted.

When the time expires, the TSR part of ABC/LX, which
monitors the battery voltage and the charging, vanishes! If
you run ABC.EXE, the part that helps configure ABCTSR.COM,
it will refuse to run, and instead tell you where you can
purchase the program. Any of our dealers can sell this
program. There are many dealers now (another one is almost
ready to go online!) and you can find their names and
contact information on our Webpage.

The program has the ability to override the built-in 6 hour
charge time, and adjust it to more or less, depending on
the condition of the battery.

Thanks again for the "plug"! :)

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 02:49:33 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      Re: 4DOS installation woes
Comments: To: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@candle.com>
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Hello.
On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, Longden Loo wrote:
>      Ctrl 123 : ¬Ctrl Ctrl ¬Ctrl More =
> replaces the normal Ctrl-123 with pressing "More" and then the "="
> (equal) key, where I have an icon programmed for Jorgen Wallgren's
> HP-ALARM program. You can make it do likewise with your 4DOS icon.
>
Isn't HP-ALARM an .EXM program?  Using MOREEXM, you should be able to set
up a hotkey for it, rather than take up a slot on your "More" screen.
There are a lot more possible hotkey combinations available for .EXM
programs than the App manager will let you use.  KeyM (on SUPER) is a
very nice program for determining scancodes and which hotkeys are assigned
to which programs.

Your idea looks more suitable for .EXE programs.  In fact, it should work
GREAT for setting up an alternative calculator program (TNCALC HP11C
emulator- highly recommended by me).  So far, I've been using a macro, but
your "pseudo-macro" system will free up a macro slot and probably be
faster.

Thanks and I hope my suggestion is helpful.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:34:52 -0500
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Subject:      Re: 4DOS installation woes

   >>      Ctrl 123 : ¬Ctrl Ctrl ¬Ctrl More =
   >> replaces the normal Ctrl-123 with pressing "More" and then the "="
   >> (equal) key, where I have an icon programmed for Jorgen Wallgren's
   >> HP-ALARM program. You can make it do likewise with your 4DOS icon.

   >Isn't HP-ALARM an .EXM program?  Using MOREEXM, you should be able
   >to set up a hotkey for it, rather than take up a slot on your
   >"More" screen. There are a lot more possible hotkey combinations
   >available for .EXM programs than the App manager will let you use.
Message-Id: <19990307133550.EGHS3511@Ý12.72.154.155¨>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 13:35:50 +0000

Yes, that's correct, but the point I was just trying to make was that the
Ctrl-123 key was programmable for the purposes of triggering the icon where
his 4DOS session was set. I just picked an icon at random to test on, and
in fact HPALARM is already set to trigger with the Alt+Appt key.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:48:13 -0500
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From:         Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: ZOOM docs
Comments: To: "malkajef@orthohelp.com" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 13:30:24 -0500, Jeff Malka wrote:

>I would like to try ZOOM, but the version I have (ZOOM110.zip) has docs in
>Japanese.  Are there docs in English?  Otherwise, how does one use ZOOM?

Odd -- I got ZOOM110.ZIP from S.U.P.E.R, and Zoom.Doc contained in
it is in English.

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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      zoom, moreexm and software carousel

I too own Magnify which I have not used for a long time because of its
limited area of magnification.  I therefore decided to try ZOOM.  However
I soon discovered it needs to have moreexm installed to work.

So far, I have not had need for moreexm but am willing to try it to see
how ZOOM works.  Before doing so I would like to ask:

1) if there are any known conflicts between moreexm and Software Carousel
(which I use)?

2) How much memory does moreexm take up?

3) Since I would (at least at present) only need moreexm for zoom, will it
be necessary to transfer all my other exms to moreexm or will I be able to
start them from "MORE" as in the past?

4) Any known conflicts between moreexm and MaxDOS which I also use?

Any help appreciated!


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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:27:08 -0500
Reply-To:     RickRae@usa.net
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
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On 3/6/99, at 3:11 PM, Tim Shephard wrote:

>The first thing that I would do would be to take apart the lx again and
make
>sure you didn't short out the serial port with the foil shield that is
>supposed to surround it not touch it.
>
>-Tim
>tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
>tims.phone@bigfoot.com

Good thought, except that it's already apart.  It hasn't been assembled
since I discovered the problem; all my tests have been made with the bottom
off.

Rick

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Subject:      Re: Magnify by Ace Software
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
In-Reply-To:  <199903070705.XAA13903@ftel.net>

-> > Magnify's "lens" cannot be made as large as Zoom's (Zoom takes over
-> > the entire screen, allowing you to see several lines magnified,
->while
-> > Magnify can only be made to enlarge a small area).   Bought Magnify
-> > several years ago; found Zoom 2 weeks ago; just REMarked Magnify
-> > out of AUTOEXEC.BAT yesterday.

->Correct. I posted because there was an impression that
->Magnify lacks the capability when indeed that feature and
->others were simply lifted from Magnify by the Zoom authors.

I do not understand.  Are you saying that the capability to enlarge
several lines at a time was lifted from MAGNIFY and therefore exists in
Magnify?  ("...when indeed that capability and others were simply lifted
from Magnify by the ZOOM authors.")

I own Magnify but have not found a way to make it magnify more than one
line at a time and certainly not a screen at a time as ZOOM apparently
does.  Are there plans to modify MAGNIFY to make it enlarge a much larger
area at a time?

Jeff


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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:27:39 -0600
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              Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Avi:
Does ABC/LX monitor non-rechargeables such as alkalines, or is it just a
program for re-chargeables.

Les

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 06:14:28 -1000
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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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Is there software for the HP200LX that will handle e-books as below?

"End users view finished documents with the Geoworks Book Reader. The
Book Reader provides the navigation,search, and printing features
necessary to use an electronic book. Geoworks Bindery and Book Reader
work with any GEOS-based device, so that electronic books can be created
for mobile devices like the Casio/Tandy Z-Series personal digital
assistants (PDAs), the Hewlett-Packard Omnigo 100 organizer, and future
GEOS-based devices."
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:13:19 PST, al chin wrote:

> Hi C;

> Heard EBay was a scam outfit (recently) that
> collects yor money
> and don't send out the goods.

This is not so.  Ebay is an outfit that allows individuals to buy and
sell their goods on Ebay.  It serves as an auction house, but Ebay is
not directly involved in the transaction.  One can get cheated by a
dishonest seller, but Ebay is quite specific in warning you to check the
ratings of the seller whose goods you are bidding on.  If one checks the
ratings of past transactions, one can see whether one is buying from an
honest broker or not.  It is the unwise person who bids on a product
from someone with no ratings, or negative ratings.

Regards,

David Ball

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:34:59 -0800
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
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I think I read somewhere that it is possible for my palmtop
to use my desktop's internal modem (via serial cable)

Is this true?  How would one set it up?  What software is
needed?

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:43:01 +0000
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I've just loaded up the NDIS drivers (thanks David Sargeant) and am having
some
problems getting the "Net Start" to start. It reports
"Error 5733 the Protocol Manager has reported an incomplete binding."

The config.sys fires up fine and finds the card. Any Advice?

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:21:35 -0800
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On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:18:05 -0600, Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

 > Bob:
 > I could not find ABC/LX on the SUPER site, how do you get it.  Does anyone
 > else think ABC/LX is better than BATTLOG?  Also... any suggestions on how I
 > can get BATTLOG to plot?

It is a good thing ABC/LX was not on SUPER :-)

ABC/LX is a commercial program produced and sold by my
company, D&A Software. You have found ABCDEMO, and I
posted about it...

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:39:48 -0600
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I posted a similar question awhile back, and haven't heard any replies,
so I'll ask again.  A few weeks ago, I noticed my HP200LX was not latching
properly.  My first thought was that I had the oft-reported dead latch
spring, so I dug out a few rubber bands and sissors.  Well, as I got to
studying the problem closely, I really don't think my latch spring is the
culprit.  On close examination, the latch isn't fully seating into the
mating pocket on the bottom section.  Once you look for this, it's pretty
clear what's happening.  Yet I can find no reason for the latch not to
seat.  There isn't any debris in the pocket/hole, the alignment seems
good (a very slight "warping" motion doesn't cause it to seat).  I just
can't figure out why this latch won't seat completely.  I have put in
the rubberband section, because the increased tension helps hold the
patially seated latch better, although not as tight as when it usd to
work.

Any ideas about this?  Is my situation what everyone calls the weak
spring problem?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:29:21 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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For those of you "vi-freaks" out there, I wanted to point out that the
version of vim that I use on my palmtop somethime (vim 4.5), has built-in
filename completion!  When you press TAB while trying to edit a new file
(like with the :e command) the editor will complete the filename!  I
discovered this by accident on my Unix shell account, and decided to try
it out on the palmtop.

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:08:37 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      ZOOM experience

For those of you who have not tried ZOOM, you owe it to yourselves to do
so.  Although I had known about it for a long time I only just got around
to trying it because, with my failing eyes, it was getting harder to read
the phonebook entries if the light was dark.  This program is excellent!

I had long ago purchased Magnify, a commercial program that enlarges part
of the screen but found it not adequate for my needs because it only
enlarged a very small area of the screen.  Zoom enlarges the entire screen
in a manner similar to the built in Fn-zoom of the HP but it works where
the Fn-zoom does not (phonebook, appt, datacard, etc.)  It has the
disadvantage of needing to install moreexm for it to work, but it is worth
it if your eyes are not as good as they once were.

I can also verify that it is compatible with MaxDos, Quick-LX, Buddy, and
sovtware carousel among other things.

ZOOM is available on SUPER.


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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:09:48 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: 4DOS installation woes
Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>

"James P. Grenert writes:
> Your idea looks more suitable for .EXE programs.  In fact, it should work
> GREAT for setting up an alternative calculator program (TNCALC HP11C
> emulator- highly recommended by me).  So far, I've been using a macro, but
> your "pseudo-macro" system will free up a macro slot and probably be
> faster.

Another way to do this is with ExmBatch (on SUPER).

ExmBatch is a little EXM wrapper which can run any dos command (you
copy and then edit the .exm file for each different command).  Then you
can use it just like any other EXM (including putting it in
your moreexm.ini file).

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 00:38:22 EST
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From:         Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Chinese on the Palmtop

   I am a  beginning English speaking Chinese student.
I am also a relative beginner on the HP200LX.
I have acquired some dos freeware which runs well on my desktop, but
presents me with some difficulties on the palm.
FLASH is an excellent freeware study program that runs well on the
desktop but refuses to display chinese characteres on the palm.
   The symptoms are the romanization is present, and the little box to
display the chinese character to be studied is drawn, but no chinese
character. All appropriate fonts are in place and present in the working
directory. Am I correct in assuming that the palmtop is choking on being
asked to display ASCII at the same time as graphics?(BIG-5 or GB).
If this is true is there a way to "fake" around this limitation?
   I also have an excellent shareware,KAPIAN, which does display large
chinese characters along with romanization, but because of the fonts and
sizes involved I suspect it runs in pure graphics mod.
   I guess I need the help of a particular person: one who is
knowledgeable in the ways of the Palmtop and also Chinese Computing!
   I also need to know if NorthStar will run on the palm. I have limited
time and money. . . I cannot afford many programs, particularly if they
do not run on the palmtop, and my time constraints are such that studying
with the palmtop are the only practical approach.
                                                             HELP,
                                                             Bob Perron

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:32:25 +0800
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I found a program call zwcga, it will let you display chinese characters
(simplified, I think) on 200lx. I'd tried it with a program called datestar
(shareware). which display lunar calendar. Works great.
I found zwcga and other DOS Chinese add-ons at:
ftp://ftp.ifcss.org/pub/software/dos/
It looks like an abandon ware to me, no doc included.
They hv a newer version upto 3.0, but I think those are shareware.
If you hv time to try out the later version and/or found out that zwcga
works with other program, please let me know.

Roger S.
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From: Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:42 PM
Subject: Chinese on the Palmtop


>   I am a  beginning English speaking Chinese student.
>I am also a relative beginner on the HP200LX.
>I have acquired some dos freeware which runs well on my desktop, but
>presents me with some difficulties on the palm.
>FLASH is an excellent freeware study program that runs well on the
>desktop but refuses to display chinese characteres on the palm.
>   The symptoms are the romanization is present, and the little box to
>display the chinese character to be studied is drawn, but no chinese
>character. All appropriate fonts are in place and present in the working
>directory. Am I correct in assuming that the palmtop is choking on being
>asked to display ASCII at the same time as graphics?(BIG-5 or GB).
>If this is true is there a way to "fake" around this limitation?
>   I also have an excellent shareware,KAPIAN, which does display large
>chinese characters along with romanization, but because of the fonts and
>sizes involved I suspect it runs in pure graphics mod.
>   I guess I need the help of a particular person: one who is
>knowledgeable in the ways of the Palmtop and also Chinese Computing!
>   I also need to know if NorthStar will run on the palm. I have limited
>time and money. . . I cannot afford many programs, particularly if they
>do not run on the palmtop, and my time constraints are such that studying
>with the palmtop are the only practical approach.
>                                                             HELP,
>                                                             Bob Perron
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:02:08 +1100
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Hello List,

I am very Sorry about the huge dictionary attachment going to the list,
I should have said for people to NOT send the attachment to the list.


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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 02:19:46 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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They are very differant programs. Battlog monitors the battery voltage giving a
graph of the discharge and charge. ABC/LX both monitors and starts and stops
charging. If all you want is to monitor the voltage Battlog is a better program
but you will need to couple it with batset if you need a tsr for charging. Make
sure you have the tsr installed and the measure interval in the options menu is
set to 5 not 1.

John

Orginal message


Date:    Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:18:05 -0600
From:    Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Battlog Program
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Bob:
I could not find ABC/LX on the SUPER site, how do you get it.  Does anyone
else think ABC/LX is better than BATTLOG?  Also... any suggestions on how I
can get BATTLOG to plot?

Les
>I think ABC/LX is one of the best batt prog ie gives you charging
times,monitors
>your batt's,gives you a graph called abc graph  try it I am sure you will
like it.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 06:29:44 -0800
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On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:09:24 -0500, Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com> wrote:

 > I too own Magnify which I have not used for a long time because of its
 > limited area of magnification.

You are aware that the size and shape of the lens can be easily
modified, right? There is a table of max sizes on the
Webpage.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:34:34 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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We put Zoom/Moreexm on Super Software Carousel: there is no conflict.
You don't have to transfer other EXMs.  Moreexm doesn't take much
memory, but I don't know how much.  I doubt there is a conflict with
MaxDOS as both products were created in Japan and have a lot of common
users.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:17:02 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: Filename Completion & VIM
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VIM 3.0 also has that filename completion.

And in case you haven't already found them, some other nice touches are:

- command recall on the ":" edit command line
- word completion during inserts (by searching backward (Ctrl-P) or forward
(Ctrl-N) in the text, or from a list of abbreviations) Tho the "hot-key" for
these may have changed from version 3 to 4.

Another poster said v4.x required too many resources (I can't remember the
specifics), but Vim 3.0 uses about 350k of disk space (exe is 234k by itself).
What's the requirements for 4.5? 3.0 is also happiest with at least 287k of free
ram (more if the doc is bigger).

- Longden





"R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> on 03/07/99 01:29:21 PM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Filename Completion & VIM




For those of you "vi-freaks" out there, I wanted to point out that the
version of vim that I use on my palmtop somethime (vim 4.5), has built-in
filename completion!  When you press TAB while trying to edit a new file
(like with the :e command) the editor will complete the filename!  I
discovered this by accident on my Unix shell account, and decided to try
it out on the palmtop.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:46:58 -0800
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Probably better to say that one should proceed with caution in bidding on a
product from someone with no ratings.

They all have to start from somewhere <g>.

I agree in general with the advice on sellers with negative ratings....

- Longden





David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> on 03/02/99 07:21:38 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: EBay site




....

One can get cheated by a
dishonest seller, but Ebay is quite specific in warning you to check the
ratings of the seller whose goods you are bidding on.  If one checks the
ratings of past transactions, one can see whether one is buying from an
honest broker or not.  It is the unwise person who bids on a product
from someone with no ratings, or negative ratings.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:26:32 +0100
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Hi list

I just loaded the pictures up to

http://www.goeldi.com/lx/

-goe-

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:38:58 GMT
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Hi,

I'd like to switch over to receiving the HPLX list using the
hplx.net news server, but I've mislaid the FAQ, and
couldn't find it on the web. Could someone please tell me
either where to find a copy of the mailing list FAQ, or the
command to stop receiving mail from the list (something like
"SET HPLX-L NOMAIL", I think), and the address to send it to.

Thanks in advance,

 -Mike

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:46:21 -0500
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On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:08:37 -0500, Jeff Malka wrote:

>For those of you who have not tried ZOOM, you owe it to yourselves to do
>so.  Although I had known about it for a long time I only just got around
>to trying it because, with my failing eyes, it was getting harder to read
>the phonebook entries if the light was dark.  This program is excellent!
>
>I can also verify that it is compatible with MaxDos, Quick-LX, Buddy, and
>sovtware carousel among other things.

I had the same (wonderful) experience as you did regards
Magnify and Zoom (for the same reason <g>).

FYI, you mention Zoom and Buddy.  You might want to
go to "Blue Key Controls" page on the Buddy setup, and
change the "Magnify key:" setting (lower right corner) to
the key that you have defined for Zoom in MoreExm.  This
will allow you to use "Esc" to invoke Zoom when Buddy
is installed; this won't work in all apps, but I find it a
benefit.

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> I'd like to switch over to receiving the HPLX list using the hplx.net
> news server, but I've mislaid the FAQ, and couldn't find it on the
> web. Could someone please tell me either where to find a copy of the
> mailing list FAQ, or the command to stop receiving mail from the list
> (something like "SET HPLX-L NOMAIL", I think), and the address to send
> it to.

Send the command SET HPLX-L NOMAIL to listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:04:26 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Communication with Linux

Hi,
        Does anybody know if exists a package for Linux to communicate with
HP200LX ?

Thank you.

Isaque.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:04:13 -0800
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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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Bruce, thanks for the heads up.  Works great!

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Francis <bfrancis@pobox.com>

>
>FYI, you mention Zoom and Buddy.  You might want to
>go to "Blue Key Controls" page on the Buddy setup, and
>change the "Magnify key:" setting (lower right corner) to
>the key that you have defined for Zoom in MoreExm.  This
>will allow you to use "Esc" to invoke Zoom when Buddy
>is installed; this won't work in all apps, but I find it a
>benefit.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:29:01 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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1999-03-08-17:04:26 Araujo, Isaque G.:
>         Does anybody know if exists a package for Linux to communicate with
> HP200LX ?

I use lxtools, available from S.U.P.E.R., works like a champ. This does file
xfer and management through the remote filer protocol. Easy to build backup
scripts on top of this. E.g. for a simple case

        lxcopy -r -a c:/ hp/c/
        lxcopy -r -a a:/ hp/a/
        (cd hp&&cvs commit -m `date +%Y-%m-%d-%H:%:%S`)

then run a simple

        attrib -a c:\*.*/s
        attrib -a a:\*.*/s

batch file on the LX. That's incremental backups with difference-based
historical records, easy to recover any file from any past backup, and _years_
will fit on a reasonable hard disk.

Other helpful doodads include gdbdump/gdbload and adbdump/adbload, both of
which are available in both MS-DOS executables (which work fine on the LX) and
portable C source that builds fine on Linux. Again, you should be able to find
these on S.U.P.E.R. These are nice for importing and exporting between HP LX
databases and CSV format.

Your one-stop shopping place for great LX software: the S.U.P.E.R. site at
<URL:http://www.palmtop.net/super.html>.

-Bennett

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:48:29 -0500
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Works in 200lx but not omnibook425.
Will sell for $120
mike

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:12:08 -0500
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Palmtoppers:

Please have a look at the new front page I have been working on. I have tried
to do several things with this new look:

1) Cut down on the number of graphics
2) Lower load times
3) Add more information
4) Gain space for some affiliations (the server fund needs all the help it can
get)
5) Keep all the existing links and add room for more if necessary
6) Retain some familiar elements

I realize that palmtop browsers hate tables, but I really think that most
people browse with desktop or laptop hardware. If there is a huge outcry, I may
go to a redirector based on browser type.

There are probably a few HTML mistakes and I will be tweaking it a bit before taking it live. Comments welcome...

http://www.palmtop.net/beta.html

--
Mitch
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:22:21 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
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I've found that corruption will happen in either of these two cases: I run
out of memory when displaying a note, or I plug a modem/flash mem card and
the battery dies suddenly.

When the database is not too corrupted, I've found I could delete the
corrupted records, then copy chunks of records to another file. The "Garlic"
program is also supposed to help, but it didn't in my case. My best solution
has been to simply backup once a month, and keep the old backups (and the
corrupted file) just in case something happens and I have to go back to the
backup. If I realize I'm missing a record, I can always open the corrupted
file and look for the info. Kinda messy, but I don't get corruption often
(once or twice a  year)

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: L. Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 1999 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: Phone Book Data Corruption


>Thanks for the good thought Roy.  Sometimes the simplest answers are the
>best.  In this case, however, I could scroll down a few records and get the
>entry that I was looking for.
>
>Just this morning the database became sicker with blank records showing.
>When I scrolled down to them, I got an error message "Record not found."
>
>Thanks to all for the good suggestions.  I'm going to give them a try and
>will post the results.
>
>Thank goodness for regular backups.  That's why we do them.
>
>L. Brooks
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
>> Nickum, Roy H.
>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 1999 8:37 AM
>> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
>>
>>
>> > L. Brooks wrote:
>> >
>> > PROBLEM STATEMENT
>> > This morning I found some searching problems.  When I attempted
>> to find a
>> > name that starts "Broo..." I had no problems by typing in B R
>> O.  However,
>> > when I try to find a name that starts with "GM " I get a beep
>> as soon as I
>> > type any letter after the G.  The records look OK on the screen, but no
>> > character after the G is accepted.
>> >
>> > SAME PROBLEM WITH CPACK
>> > I tried the same G search on the file using CPACK and had the same
>> > problem.
>> > A version of the phone book that I backed up last week had no problems.
>> >
>> A very simple answer may be that you don't have any current phone book
>> records that match "GM".  The automatic search function in the "phone"
>> application will "beep" as soon as it fails to match a character.
>>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:39:32 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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When I had my 100 (now it's a 200), the latch stopped working at some point.
Since I could not hear any pieces bouncing around, it wasn't obvious what
wasn't working. The latch simply would not go back. By carefully prying the
case (the screen part) open, I managed to remove the latch, and found out
that there isn't any spring as such. The only thing that pushes the latch
back to its original position (to make it snap and lock the 100 so it won't
open) is two little pieces of flexible plastic that act as spring -- and
mine had bent/cracked. Called HP to get another one, but they couldn't sell
me the part separately. Result: I just forgot about the whole thing and used
an elastic band to hold the 100 closed.

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 1999 12:39 PM
Subject: Latch Problem/Question


>I posted a similar question awhile back, and haven't heard any replies,
>so I'll ask again.  A few weeks ago, I noticed my HP200LX was not latching
>properly.  My first thought was that I had the oft-reported dead latch
>spring, so I dug out a few rubber bands and sissors.  Well, as I got to
>studying the problem closely, I really don't think my latch spring is the
>culprit.  On close examination, the latch isn't fully seating into the
>mating pocket on the bottom section.  Once you look for this, it's pretty
>clear what's happening.  Yet I can find no reason for the latch not to
>seat.  There isn't any debris in the pocket/hole, the alignment seems
>good (a very slight "warping" motion doesn't cause it to seat).  I just
>can't figure out why this latch won't seat completely.  I have put in
>the rubberband section, because the increased tension helps hold the
>patially seated latch better, although not as tight as when it usd to
>work.
>
>Any ideas about this?  Is my situation what everyone calls the weak
>spring problem?
>
>-Chris Lott
>
>
>--
>
>************************************************************************
>R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
>Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:06:42 +0100
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Hi everybody,

I also tried to run the current version of 4dos some weeks ago on
my palmtop, but the start of the shell took to much time for me (I
can`t swap on my c-drive, because it`s full - I am a poor 1MB HPLX-
User).

Some days ago I discovered an old diskette with an older version of
4dos which i used on my desktop many years ago. It`s Version
5.0, I think from 1993. It only needs 130 kb to swap as a primary
shell (i think the latest version needs about 200+ kb) and 30 kb as
a secondary shell and so it starts faster. I don`t know whether it is
still available elsewhere on the net, but if anybody is interested, i
can send it via email.

I don`t know, which features this older version lacks, but it has all
what I need: name completion, history by pressing PGUP, the
select-command,  aliases, etc....

One hint: If you use maxdos and 4dos v5.00 as a primary shell,
you need the following entry in your 4dos.ini:
Inherit = Yes.
Don`t ask me, why, I discovered it by trial and error. And don`t
forget to set your comspec-variable.

regards,
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:46:32 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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WOW Mitch....looks great !

Jon

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) Ýmailto:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 2:12 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: A new look for Palmtop.Net?
>
>
> Palmtoppers:
>
> Please have a look at the new front page I have been working
> on. I have tried
> to do several things with this new look:
>
> 1) Cut down on the number of graphics
> 2) Lower load times
> 3) Add more information
> 4) Gain space for some affiliations (the server fund needs
> all the help it can
> get)
> 5) Keep all the existing links and add room for more if necessary
> 6) Retain some familiar elements
>
> I realize that palmtop browsers hate tables, but I really
> think that most
> people browse with desktop or laptop hardware. If there is a
> huge outcry, I may
> go to a redirector based on browser type.
>
> There are probably a few HTML mistakes and I will be tweaking
> it a bit before taking it live. Comments welcome...
>
http://www.palmtop.net/beta.html

--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:59:09 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

Everyone talks about filename completition...
Maybe it's interesting for all who want to have it:

I use a program called "DOSED" (I think I got it from
Simtel). It provides filename completition with
the TAB key just like in UNIX. Works great and needs
about 3.3 kB of RAM.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:59:02 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Prince of Persia I for DOS
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Hi,

> Hi,
>         I'm trying to run Prince of Persia on my HP200LX, but graphics don't
> work.

One more tip: If you want to fight you have to press "shift" twice.
I think it has something to do with the shift hold feature of the LX.

Maybe you know about it - but have you tried to start the game
with PRINCE CGA MEGAHIT ?
If you have the cracked version, you can then use a few hotkeys.
For example Ctrl-L lets you get into the next level :-)

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:59:05 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES> wrote:
> > 2 years ago I purchased a Palmtop Snap-In Holder from Notebook
> > Supply Warehouse. I have read that they have gotten out of the
> > 200LX business.
> > Does anybody have an idea where I can purchase 2 more of these
> > extremely practical devices ?

What does such a holder do?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:14:36 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Latch Problem/Question

I also found out that the case would "give-up" it's latch part in this
way.  I wonder if it would be possible to re-create the latch part as an
aftermarket product?  How about a version of the latch made of aluminum,
with the spring component formed from steel.  The two parts could be
bonded together by inserting the steel part into a fork in the aluminum
and that fork impact closed.  Enough.

Phil

<snip>
>
>When I had my 100 (now it's a 200), the latch stopped working at some point.
>Since I could not hear any pieces bouncing around, it wasn't obvious what
>wasn't working. The latch simply would not go back. By carefully prying the
>case (the screen part) open, I managed to remove the latch, and found out
>that there isn't any spring as such. The only thing that pushes the latch
>back to its original position (to make it snap and lock the 100 so it won't
>open) is two little pieces of flexible plastic that act as spring -- and
>mine had bent/cracked. Called HP to get another one, but they couldn't sell
>me the part separately. Result: I just forgot about the whole thing and used
>an elastic band to hold the 100 closed.
>
>Philippe :)
>

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:24:11 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Sounds interesting, although it might just be easier to pick a dead
95/100/200 and use the part...

Philippe :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Latch Problem/Question


>I also found out that the case would "give-up" it's latch part in this
>way.  I wonder if it would be possible to re-create the latch part as an
>aftermarket product?  How about a version of the latch made of aluminum,
>with the spring component formed from steel.  The two parts could be
>bonded together by inserting the steel part into a fork in the aluminum
>and that fork impact closed.  Enough.
>
>Phil
>
><snip>
>>
>>When I had my 100 (now it's a 200), the latch stopped working at some
point.
>>Since I could not hear any pieces bouncing around, it wasn't obvious what
>>wasn't working. The latch simply would not go back. By carefully prying
the
>>case (the screen part) open, I managed to remove the latch, and found out
>>that there isn't any spring as such. The only thing that pushes the latch
>>back to its original position (to make it snap and lock the 100 so it
won't
>>open) is two little pieces of flexible plastic that act as spring -- and
>>mine had bent/cracked. Called HP to get another one, but they couldn't
sell
>>me the part separately. Result: I just forgot about the whole thing and
used
>>an elastic band to hold the 100 closed.
>>
>>Philippe :)
>>
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:23:12 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Latch Problem/Question
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:39:48 -0600, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

 > culprit.  On close examination, the latch isn't fully seating into the
 > mating pocket on the bottom section.  Once you look for this, it's pretty
 > clear what's happening.  Yet I can find no reason for the latch not to
 > seat.  There isn't any debris in the pocket/hole, the alignment seems

I have seen this happen when the entire hinge section, the
tube between the two parts of the palmtop, is misaligned.
Sometimes the entire tube seems to be pushed back a
fraction of an inch. This would cause the top part and the
latch to not be in perfect alignment, defeating tha
latching mechanism.

Perhaps this is the cause in your palmtop.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:27:58 -0500
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              Joe Baughman <jdb@RAEX.COM>
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If anyone is interested, I have a current database of all Magic: The
Gathering cards with text.  All sets through Legacy are included.  I have
it in GDB format and Q&A 4.0 format.  They are free and unsupported.  I
can't vouch for the accuracy of the cards, the information was taken from
the Wizards of the Coast text files.

http://web.raex.com/~ebonair/raves.htm

There is also a nice little LXB program that acts as a scorekeeper.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:35:47 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Using my desktop modem

You might try ComLink (comlink3.exe).  I don't recall if ComLink is
palmtop-only, but one of those type of deals is.  I think it's listed on
the S.U.P.E.R. site as well as one or two other serial port
"pass-through" programs.

Phil
>
>I think I read somewhere that it is possible for my palmtop
>to use my desktop's internal modem (via serial cable)
>
>Is this true?  How would one set it up?  What software is
>needed?
>
>Don.
>

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:58:49 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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It is a thin piece of plastic with bent edges that covers the
machine's bottom and that snaps into the slots of the 200LX
casing in the front and back. It has a piece of adhesive tape
on the back to glew it onto where you want it: on your car's
dashboard, your refrigerator, or (in my case) on
the plane's yoke. I use the 200LX for flight planning and
navigation.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:13:05 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX SNAP-IN HOLDER
Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Where does one find such a universal holder?

Karl DeLyria

At 11:58 PM 3/8/99 +0100, you wrote:
>It is a thin piece of plastic with bent edges that covers the
>machine's bottom and that snaps into the slots of the 200LX
>casing in the front and back. It has a piece of adhesive tape
>on the back to glew it onto where you want it: on your car's
>dashboard, your refrigerator, or (in my case) on
>the plane's yoke. I use the 200LX for flight planning and
>navigation.
>
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>
>

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:29:31 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Thanks to all who replied. I'm now getting the messages via
the hplx.net newsserver and, probably due to the
"excess-header trimming", my online time certainly seems to
be less. I would certainly recommend this method of viewing
the mailing list messages if possible.

 -Mike

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:08:20 EST
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I have a E&B zippered case that has one of the snap-in holders.....I am
attaching their web site...I  checked with them to see if they will sell
extras and they DO.   Each tray runs $5.00....five dollars!!!     I told them
I was forwarding this info to the group and they said it was fine to have
people order just the tray.    I have been to their offices and purchased two
cases from them (they are just out side of Sacramento)...they people are very
helpful and pleasant.    Hope this helps.

Cathy <A HREF="http://www.ebcases.com/store/scripts/storepro.exe/service">E&B
Company</A>     http://www.ebcases.com

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:58:44 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Cathy,

What do you ask for?

Karl DeLyria


At 06:08 PM 3/8/99 EST, you wrote:
>I have a E&B zippered case that has one of the snap-in holders.....I am
>attaching their web site...I  checked with them to see if they will sell
>extras and they DO.   Each tray runs $5.00....five dollars!!!     I told them
>I was forwarding this info to the group and they said it was fine to have
>people order just the tray.    I have been to their offices and purchased two
>cases from them (they are just out side of Sacramento)...they people are very
>helpful and pleasant.    Hope this helps.
>
>Cathy <A HREF="http://www.ebcases.com/store/scripts/storepro.exe/service">E&B
>Company</A>     http://www.ebcases.com
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:07:00 -0500
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I have a 95-LX which I have used for eight years.  Today the main battery
warning came on, but when I changed the mains, the warning remained.  It
now beeps after every start up.  I have noticed lately (within the last
year) that battery life has drastically decreased.  The backups are
relatively new (less than two months for both the backup and the PC-SRAM
battery).  When the PC was new, two batteries would easily last two months
of normal use.  The last set of fresh batteries lasted fewer than three
weeks.  I plug the unit into an HP power supply in the evening and on
weekends.

I have reset the machine, reinitialized, deleted and replaced SETUP.ENV,
run the diagnostics, done everything I can think of to work this out.
The 95 still beeps on startup and both I95 and SETUP show no power from
the Main batteries. Setup is usually inaccurate when the power supply is
in place, showing 75% or more battery life at those times. But now it
shows no battery power even with the power supply plgged in.  When I
remove the batteries and disconnect the power, it starts up as though it
were first being initialized.  However, even though it says the batteries
are dead (they are not, and I've tried six fresh batteries) it still runs
and saves files.  It does not go into standby or backup mode as it has
done occasionally in the past when I did not change the batteries in time.

Does anybody have a suggestion on what else to try?

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:55:02 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Communication with Linux
Comments: To: "Araujo,Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>

"Araujo, Isaque G. writes:
> Does anybody know if exists a package for Linux to communicate with
> HP200LX ?

If you want the simplest solution for transferring files to a machine
in the same room, then lxtools (on SUPER) can be compiled for Linux.

If you want a more powerful solution that can be extended past the
limits of how far a serial cable will reach (e.g. across to the other
side of the world), then there are a number of ways to do this with
LXTCP (lxtcp.hplx.net):

1/ Via an ethernet card
2/ Via a modem connection
3/ Via the serial port

#1 gives the most bandwidth (over 150Kb/s), #3 requires no extra
hardware (but is only suitable for local connections).

On the server end, to use #1, you just need to be running normal
networking on the Linux machine.  To use #2 or #3, you need to be
running a PPP server on the Linux machine.

On the client end (the HP200LX), you run a DOS packet driver to make a
TCP/IP connection to the Linux machine, and then run an TCP/IP
application to connect to the Linux machine.  Then you can use standard
TCP/IP protocols (such as FTP) to transfer files.

Note that LXTCP is not easy to set up (unless you are familiar with
TCP/IP and PPP - which is likely if you are using Linux) - so if
you're looking for a commercial TCP/IP solution, then WWW/LX (from
www.dasoft.com) has support for FTP and other TCP/IP protocols, with a
great GUI interface, documentation and support.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:41:45 -0500
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              riley <riley@IGLOU.COM>
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anyone try one?
they are on sale for 19.95 at royal's web site.
thanks
mike

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 01:58:55 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Panasonic S-10 tablet: almost a 200LX successor?
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I did,
you can find any size of keyboard every where.
If you go somewere for a meeting or over sea,
you don't need to carry you keyboard,
you just need to manage to find one, when you arrive.
Also, they don't coast $130!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alain
> Someone wrote that a standard 101-key PC keyboard with serial
> converter and driver from DIN-5 or mini-DIN (aka PS/2) might be
> the solution for 200LX external keyboard. I don't think so.
> It should be small enough to be portable, not bigger than the
> keyboard of a regular notebook. That's why Apple Newton's one
> was popular. The regular 101-keyer is just huge and heavy.


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:05:12 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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04h05m18s ago ...
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:

> ... It has a piece of adhesive tape
> on the back to glew it onto where you want it: on your car's
> dashboard,..

the one I sent has "velcro hooks" on the back, your on your own forthe
adhesive...better yet, get some adhesive velcro tape.

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:05:41 -0800
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      pcmcia modem

By the end of the week I will be the proud owner of a
64 mb 2x 200lx (thanks Thaddeus)!  Because my old unit
was a 1 mb (no, I'm keeping it as a backup!), I didn't
pay any attention to the discussions about modems.  :(

I want a low-power (I always use rechargable nihm
batteries), x-jack, 33.6 pcmcia modem that I can swap
with my Simple Tech flash card without rebooting.  I
would also like this to be a current model that I can
buy at my local Frys or Comp USA. (I want my new toys
now!!!)

Thanks in advance for help on this topic that I know
has been beat to death on this list already.

n.


Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:07:12 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Mon,  8 Mar 1999 22:07:14 -0500 (EST)

02m02s ago ...
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Al Kind wrote:


> the one I sent has "velcro hooks" on the back, your on your own forthe
> adhesive...better yet, get some adhesive velcro tape.

Oops, Sorry!

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:27:09 -0600
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Still can't get BATTLOG to plot the battery voltage.  The documentation is
very skimpy and not too intuitive.  What does the Options, Battlog Trigger
do?  It registers my battery's voltage but doesn't PLOT.

Help, anyone?

Les

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:35:00 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Asking for a 33.6k modem and a current model in the same breath is almost a
contradiction.

It seems like most vendors are closing out their 28.8-33.6k line in favor of
56k.

I don't think there's a 33.6k XJack (from the company that owns that moniker)
that'll run on the 200LX due to high power consumption.  Their 14.4k models (ie,
XJ1144 and XJ3144) have been popular for a long time in the LX crowd, and should
be fine if you can tolerate the slower speed (running NetTamer 1.08, it
shouldn't really be that bad to download email). But even those aren't in every
store.

However, the recent discussion did touch on the Simple Technology 33.6k
Communicator (and covered in-depth on David Sargeant's website), which does work
on the LX (I have one), but which is increasingly difficult to find except by
mail-order (let alone at CompUSA or Fry's).

There were other 33.6k modems mentioned, but I  think they all require a dongle
(the exceptions being Simple and Megahertz).

- Longden





"Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM> on 03/08/99 07:05:41 PM

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Subject:  pcmcia modem




By the end of the week I will be the proud owner of a
64 mb 2x 200lx (thanks Thaddeus)!  Because my old unit
was a 1 mb (no, I'm keeping it as a backup!), I didn't
pay any attention to the discussions about modems.  :(

I want a low-power (I always use rechargable nihm
batteries), x-jack, 33.6 pcmcia modem that I can swap
with my Simple Tech flash card without rebooting.  I
would also like this to be a current model that I can
buy at my local Frys or Comp USA. (I want my new toys
now!!!)

Thanks in advance for help on this topic that I know
has been beat to death on this list already.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:43:13 +0800
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              Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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Today I'd downloaded a program "Flash-15" from
ftp://ftp.ifcss.org/pub/software/dos/edu/
It works great on my single speed 200LX with 48M Sandisk CF. Doesn't need
any add-ons because I think it use BMP fonts. The whole thing plus some
fonts will be a little over 2M. And seems you can creat your own cards, if
you know the codes.
The bad things is that the simplified characters do not seem right. May be I
did not set it right?
Can't find NJstar for DOS, or else, I would like to try it too. There used
to hv one for download, but I can't find it anymore.
BTW, I'm used to be a Chinese speaking English Student :)

Roger S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:42 PM
Subject: Chinese on the Palmtop


>   I am a  beginning English speaking Chinese student.
>I am also a relative beginner on the HP200LX.
>I have acquired some dos freeware which runs well on my desktop, but
>presents me with some difficulties on the palm.
>FLASH is an excellent freeware study program that runs well on the
>desktop but refuses to display chinese characteres on the palm.
>   The symptoms are the romanization is present, and the little box to
>display the chinese character to be studied is drawn, but no chinese
>character. All appropriate fonts are in place and present in the working
>directory. Am I correct in assuming that the palmtop is choking on being
>asked to display ASCII at the same time as graphics?(BIG-5 or GB).
>If this is true is there a way to "fake" around this limitation?
>   I also have an excellent shareware,KAPIAN, which does display large
>chinese characters along with romanization, but because of the fonts and
>sizes involved I suspect it runs in pure graphics mod.
>   I guess I need the help of a particular person: one who is
>knowledgeable in the ways of the Palmtop and also Chinese Computing!
>   I also need to know if NorthStar will run on the palm. I have limited
>time and money. . . I cannot afford many programs, particularly if they
>do not run on the palmtop, and my time constraints are such that studying
>with the palmtop are the only practical approach.
>                                                             HELP,
>                                                             Bob Perron
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:16:04 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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From:         "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
Comments: To: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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RESULTS!

I saved my last good backup (Healthy.pdb) and the corrupted file (Sick.pdb)
in a new directory.

1.  gdbdump (from super site), worked on healthy and died on sick.
Processed maybe 20 records prior to exiting.

2.  I tried garlic and it bombed out immediately.

3.  CPACK's translate utility worked flawlessly on Healthy and died on Sick.

So.  I restored my backup and all is healthy.

Thanks to all for the suggestions, however, my database was evidently quite
ill.  This was my first failure of any kind in over four years (I think)
with the 200.  Not a bad little machine and a very fine discussion group.
Glad I found you all.

L. Brooks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Bennett Todd
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 12:08 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Phone Book Data Corruption
>
>
> Here's what I'd do:
>
> (1) Go back to the newest known-clean version of the database from your
>     backups. If you don't have a good known-clean version, this
> can mean going
>     all the way to an empty phonebook, which you can create with
>     menu/file/new.
>
> (2) Use gdbdump to dump the old database (if any) to CSV format.
> Use gdbdump
>     to dump the new, corrupt database to CSV. Subtract the
> records (if any)
>     from the old database out of the new database. E.g.:
>
>         tail +2l <old-but-good.csv | sort >old-tmp
>         tail +2l <new-but-corrupt.csv | sort >new-tmp
>         comm -13 old-tmp new-tmp >missing-records
>
>     Now take a text editor to missing-records and make sure they
> look OK, if
>     any of them appear to be trashed, fix 'em or delete 'em. I
> like at this
>     point to do a little sanity checking; e.g.
>
>         egrep -v '¬".*"$' missing-records
>         perl -MText::CSV_XS -lne '
>                 BEGIN{$c=Text::CSV_XS->new}
>                 $c->parse($_) or die;
>                 @c=$c->fields;
>                 die if defined($t) and $t!=$#c;
>                 $t=$#c;
>         '
>
>     (untested). Now at this point you've got a known-clean
> database (possibly
>     empty), and a known-clean CSV of records that need to be added to the
>     database to bring it up-to-date. Remember to add that header
> record you
>     tore off back onto the top.
>
> (3) use gdbload to merge the missing records back into the clean db, and
>     re-build the indices (by choosing each "Subset", one after another,
>     starting with the "All Phone Book Items" default at the
> beginning of the
>     list).
>
> I've heard about garlic, but have never used it; the ability to
> go between gdb
> and csv is so useful to me, I do it all the time, so I've grown
> to trust it;
> since I can use it to clean corrupt databases, I do:-). Of
> course, if gdbdump
> were to refuse to dump a corrupt db, I'd for sure try garlicing
> it to see if
> the result tasted better to gdbdump. But since I've used gdbload enough to
> really trust it, I don't think I'd try to extend the same degree
> of trust to
> another program. Your mileage will vary.
>
> -Bennett
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:34:31 -0500
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              "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: A new look for Palmtop.Net?
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Really, really nice.

Thanks,

L. Brooks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 3:12 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: A new look for Palmtop.Net?
>
>
> Palmtoppers:
>
> Please have a look at the new front page I have been working on.
> I have tried
> to do several things with this new look:
>
> 1) Cut down on the number of graphics
> 2) Lower load times
> 3) Add more information
> 4) Gain space for some affiliations (the server fund needs all
> the help it can
> get)
> 5) Keep all the existing links and add room for more if necessary
> 6) Retain some familiar elements
>
> I realize that palmtop browsers hate tables, but I really think that most
> people browse with desktop or laptop hardware. If there is a huge
> outcry, I may
> go to a redirector based on browser type.
>
> There are probably a few HTML mistakes and I will be tweaking it
> a bit before taking it live. Comments welcome...
>
http://www.palmtop.net/beta.html

--
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SUPER Team

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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:18:12 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      MaxDos Strange Behavior

I had something happen this afternoon and was curious if anyone else had
experienced it. Upon exiting a MaxDos session, I got a "Drive not Ready
Abort, Fail, Retry?" prompt. I pressed 'F' for fail and the MaxDos session
ended and all appeared well and everything still works...... whew :) I have
never had this happen before now and use several programs throughout the day
which use MaxDos. Has anyone else ever had this happen? Is is something I
should worry about or is it just one of those things that make you go
"Hmmm....?"

73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:28:10 -0800
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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: A new look for Palmtop.Net?
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote:
>
> Palmtoppers:
>
> Please have a look at the new front page I have been working on. I have tried
> to do several things with this new look:
>
> 1) Cut down on the number of graphics
> 2) Lower load times
> 3) Add more information
> 4) Gain space for some affiliations (the server fund needs all the help it can
> get)
> 5) Keep all the existing links and add room for more if necessary
> 6) Retain some familiar elements
>
> I realize that palmtop browsers hate tables, but I really think that most
> people browse with desktop or laptop hardware. If there is a huge outcry, I may
> go to a redirector based on browser type.
>
> There are probably a few HTML mistakes and I will be tweaking it a bit before taking it live. Comments welcome...
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/beta.html
>
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
>
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Mitch Looks great !!
     Bob Elliott

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:24:00 -0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Turn on problem, HELP !!!

First, thank you for all informations about communication with Linux. The
fastest way I guess was LX Tools.
But now I'm having a big problem.
Well after installing lxtools on my desktop I copied a little program called
BurgerTime to my HP200LX.
When I tried to run it simply ignored all keyboard input even the on-off
key.
Well as I couldn't turn it off, i got out all batterys and put them again,
but now I can't turn on again my HP200LX. Sometimes it beeps sometimes not.
Please if you know something, anything about this problem please, contact.

Thank you.

Isaque.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Mar 1999 04:32:00 -0800
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WTT 30meg compact flash with adaptor for type 2 flash
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Riley,

I just bought a new SanDisk 30MB CF w/adapter for 114.88 (incl.
shipping) from
http://www.hardwarestreet.com.  It works with both 200 & 425.  You might
want
to reconsider your price.

These goodies have come down a lot over the years.  When I bought my
first 200LX,
I paid $1400 for a 40MB Sandisk Type II card.  Yow!

Wayne

riley wrote:

> Works in 200lx but not omnibook425.
> Will sell for $120
> mike
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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:20:36 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Battlog Graph Problem
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Tue,  9 Mar 1999 09:09:28 -0500 (EST)

16h39m16s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Mar 1999, Les Cohn wrote:

> Still can't get BATTLOG to plot the battery voltage.  The documentation =
is
> very skimpy and not too intuitive.

How did you install battlog?  You should have battlog.com (the TSR)
loaded in autoexec.bat, and the EXM installed in either AppMgr or
MoreEXM.  If you have MaxDOS, the battlog TSR should be loaded before
MaxDOS.

> What does the Options, Battlog Trigger do?

Sorry - no idea...

>It registers my battery's voltage but doesn't PLOT.

Not sure what's happening with that...  Battlog should plot whenever
you're running on batteries or charging.  It doesn't plot when using
the adapter.

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:15:54 -0700
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              John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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> > Someone wrote that a standard 101-key PC keyboard with serial
> > converter and driver from DIN-5 or mini-DIN (aka PS/2) might be
> > the solution for 200LX external keyboard.

Can someone who has done this document it for the rest of us??
No use reinventing the wheel!!!

tnx,
john

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:05:15 -0500
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>
> There are probably a few HTML mistakes and I will be tweaking it
> a bit before taking it live. Comments welcome...
>

Mitch,

It looks terrific! Well organized and easy to use, too!

FWIW, I am at the moment playing with a new browser for the Mac called
iCab. One of its features is to report on "HTML mistakes". Though it is
rather fussy in this respect, you may find it useful to see iCab's report
on your beta site:

---cut here---
http://www.palmtop.net/beta.html
Altogether 69 errors found. Only  25 errors are listed below.
Warning (10/1): In the tag <BODY> the value "LINK" must be quoted.
Warning (10/1): In the tag <BODY> the value "VLINK" must be quoted.
Error (10/1): The attribute "body" is not part of HTML.
Error (12/1): The tag <CENTER> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (13/1): The tag <CENTER> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Warning (14/1): In the tag <A> the value "HREF" must be quoted.
Warning (15/1): In the tag <IMG> the value "SRC" must be quoted.
Warning (18/1): In the tag <IMG> the value "SRC" must be quoted.
Warning (20/1): In the tag <A> the value "HREF" must be quoted.
Warning (21/1): In the tag <IMG> the value "SRC" must be quoted.
Error (25/1): The tag <CENTER> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (33/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (35/1): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" must only contain
absolute pixel values.
Error (44/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (46/1): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" must only contain
absolute pixel values.
Error (55/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (57/1): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" must only contain
absolute pixel values.
Error (78/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (83/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (91/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (98/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (106/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (111/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (115/1): <FONT> must not contain block level tags like <P>.
Error (115/4): The start tag for </FONT> can't be found.
Error (116/1): The tag <CENTER> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (120/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (132/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (141/20): In the tag <TABLE> the attribute "HEIGHT" is not allowed.
Error (146/10): The character '<' must be written as '&lt;'.
Warning (164/72): The attribute "WIDTH" is not defined for the tag <INPUT>.
Error (164/72): In the tag <INPUT> the attribute "BORDER" is not allowed.
Warning (164/72): The attribute "HEIGHT" is not defined for the tag
<INPUT>.
Error (180/1): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
---cut here---

Despite all this, the page loads fine in iCab (and Netscape 4.x too).

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:26:32 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Turn on problem, HELP !!!

With all the batteries installed, try pressing the left Shift key, the
"ctrl" key and the "on" key at the same time.  The first time you do
this, assuming it works, answer "no" to the initialize question and see
what is still in your c: drive.  If things look "ok" consider yourself
among the luckiest people on Earth.  If there is nothing, or the palmtop
file system seems corrupt, do the shift-ctrl-on thing again and answer
"yes" to the initialize question and restore your stuff from a backup.

Good luck!

Phil

<snip>
>When I tried to run it simply ignored all keyboard input even the on-off
>key.
>Well as I couldn't turn it off, i got out all batterys and put them again,
>but now I can't turn on again my HP200LX. Sometimes it beeps sometimes not.
>Please if you know something, anything about this problem please, contact.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Isaque.
>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:40:14 +0100
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              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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From:         Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
Subject:      WTB: New 200LX
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Hi

Anyone know where too bye new 200LX UK English model.

All dealers in my country a sold out.

Thanks for any and all help

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:01:59 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: A new look for Palmtop.Net?
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I looked at your new page from my desktop. It's very nice. I have not
looked at it from the palmtop yet... Typically the only time I access
it from the palmtop is when I need a file, FAST! Since I keep a copy of
your filelist on the palmtop, all I need to do is a quick search and
download of the required file. I hope you'll keep that capability...

Mike...

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 02:20:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg>
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From:         Nicholas Chan <ncknight@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
Subject:      Virtual Backlight
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http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~uk6m-skzw/200lx.htm

There is a reflector "backlight" item on this page, somewhat like the old acade
machines that reflect their display onto a glass. can anyone translate what is stated on
this? Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:34:22 -0500
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              "Joseph K. Hwang" <joseph.hwang@YALE.EDU>
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From:         "Joseph K. Hwang" <joseph.hwang@YALE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WTB: New 200LX
Comments: To: Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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>Hi
>
>Anyone know where too bye new 200LX UK English model.
>
>All dealers in my country a sold out.
>
>Thanks for any and all help
>
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Try http://www.cdw.com or http://www.necx.com or http://www.buy.com
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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:48:34 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HP95-LX Battery Problem
Comments: To: robert delius royar <r.royar@MOREHEAD-ST.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.WNT.4.10.9903081950500.-196215@frinabulax.morehead-st.edu>;
              from robert delius royar on Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 08:07:00PM -0500
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I seem to recall reading about this a few years back; seems there was a
hardware problem. My memory is _really_ vague, but I think it might have been
something as simple as an electrolytic cap drying out or some such. At one
time, HP would fix it for free, but wouldn't promise to do so or tell you that
they were going to do so; you'd have to send your 95LX in to them prepared to
pay for a repair that cost more than the machine, and hope you got lucky:-(.

Also as I recall, the problem only affected the battery voltage reporting
logic, not the actual power supply --- it could work off the batteries fine,
it just couldn't tell whether they were any good or not. So if you ignored the
beeps and alarums, they (and the lack of battery-health tracking) were the
only problems you had; you could still use the 95LX. There may be SW out there
that could be used to disable the alarms; I'd start by checking the latest
version of 95Buddy, which is available from <URL:http://www.palmtop.net/>
along with everything else an LX palmtop owner could want.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:21:05 -0000
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Hey, you must have been away from MS$ for too long - none of their HTML ever
conforms to strict standards..., especially when it comes to fonts.  Not
that Mitch may use MS$ tools.  But if you ever use a Unix system to view
output from FrontPage, you'll get the idea.  I'm all in favour of 'pure'
standards, it's just that you can't make money or dominate a market unless
you keep pushing the edges and 'improving' them, and of course making sure
you have a seat at all standards bodies so you can say 'as proposed for
inclusion in future standards'

And I also think the SUPER front page much improved.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:46:28 +0100
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hi,

what happened to the PAL-Site?
I always get a "Page Not Found"-message.
Did the URL change?

regards,
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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:42:59 -0800
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Has anyone tried to put an indiglo light behind their 100/200 screen?
Seems like it would do the job.

An alternative I was thinking about was to get a PCMCIA II connector and
hooking up to the 100/200 power and have a little up/down swinging arm
attached to the connector with a bright led at the end of it. When the arm
is down, it would stay right next to the connector (and the slot).

Any comments?

Philippe :)

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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Has anyone tried to put an indiglo light behind their 100/200 screen?
> Seems like it would do the job.

Yes.  It's just a difficult process.

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Infoworld article on HP's recent announcement.  Although it doesn't
mention handhelds, it is informative.
See:
http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/990308hp.htm

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The Palmtop Paper had an article about inventors in Japan who had come up
with some different ideas to backlight the 200lx's screen.  The ideas seemed
very feasible and the article mentioned they would update the progress but
have not as of yet.  You may find the article on the web in archives or you
can order past issues from thaddeus.com (your welcome Hal keep it up).
        However we should keep this idea going as it would be great to combine
minds to get this done once and for all.  Perhaps Thaddeus would be willing
to help (hint, hint)  since they have broken down palmtops they are working
on????

Indiglo however is a trademarked and albet patiented product which creates
problems.
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From:
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Subject: Indiglo or light
Date: 3/9/99 1:42 PM

Has anyone tried to put an indiglo light behind their 100/200 screen?
Seems like it would do the job.

An alternative I was thinking about was to get a PCMCIA II connector and
hooking up to the 100/200 power and have a little up/down swinging arm
attached to the connector with a bright led at the end of it. When the arm
is down, it would stay right next to the connector (and the slot).

Any comments?

Philippe :)

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:39:42 +0900
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Hi Nicholas,

>There is a reflector "backlight" item on this page, somewhat like the old acade
>machines that reflect their display onto a glass. can anyone translate what is stated on
>this? Thanks!

I think it is "NB12 HP Card Light" by DEVICENET CO.,LTD <sales@tarze.or.jp>.
EL "frontlight" use four AAA batteries.
You can see the structure at www.tarze.or.jp/nb1254.html.
Online shopping price is 4980JPY (approx. 41USD) without S/H.

Best Regards,
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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:12:15 -0600
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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:12:04 -0800, asiegert <asiegert@ksfm.com> wrote:

> Indiglo however is a trademarked and albet patiented product which creates
> problems.

Only the name 'Indiglo' is trademarked and not the actual technology, or at
least I'm assuming so. I have several products which use this form of
luminscent backlighting, ranging from a watch, pager, nightlight in the hall
of my house and a piece of electrical test equipment.

While backlighting for the LX would be great, I fear that the battery life
would be greatly reduced if used for any useful amount of time. I also
wonder what the cost of a project like this would be and if the costs would
outweigh the benefits?

73/72  Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 1999 22:36:10 -0800
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Can't anyone manufacture lx's with a back lit screen?.

Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Has anyone tried to put an indiglo light behind their 100/200 screen?
> Seems like it would do the job.
>
> An alternative I was thinking about was to get a PCMCIA II connector and
> hooking up to the 100/200 power and have a little up/down swinging arm
> attached to the connector with a bright led at the end of it. When the arm
> is down, it would stay right next to the connector (and the slot).
>
> Any comments?
>
> Philippe :)
>
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Nancy try the Apex Data 33.6 from Mobil Planet.  About 138ma.  Not X-jack =
but flat type connector.  Better if used in laptop too so you can use =
both type II card slots at the same time.    =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:21:26 -0500
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Hi all

I have completed an 'Alpha' cut of a program that will convert an exported
Outlook '97 appointment book to a CSV file suitable for running through
ADBLOAD (which can be found on S.U.P.E.R).

This is the process:

1) Export appointments from Outlook '97 to a Microsoft Access file
2) Run my program to read the Microsoft Access file and create a CSV file
3) Run ADBLOAD on the CSV file to create an ADB file
4) In the HP Appt. program, merge the above created ADB file.

I am using an Access file because I was having problems with Outlook
embedding characters such as quotes among other things inside the fields,
and since the Outlook output file serves no other purpose, it really does
not matter.

Something else that I _will_ add soon is the input and output filenames as
command line parameters to my program so this whole process could be run
from a single batch file potentially.

If anyone would like to do some Alpha testing, let me know.  I have not
created an install yet, so if you have VB5 installed, I could just send the
.exe.  Hopefully tomorrow I will have time to create a full setup that I
will stick on my FTP site.

Thanks

Sean

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 05:00:10 GMT
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Has anyone out in Palmtop land run GnuPlot? Gnuplot is a Free plotting
application that takes data and graphs it. I'm trying to run a program
that uses Gnuplot for graphical output, and would like to get a
working version. I now that version 3.7 doesn't work in the Palmtop.=20

Thanks

Dave

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:41:33 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Philippe,

> When I had my 100 (now it's a 200), the latch stopped working at some point.
> Since I could not hear any pieces bouncing around, it wasn't obvious what
> wasn't working. The latch simply would not go back. By carefully prying the
> case (the screen part) open, I managed to remove the latch, and found out
> that there isn't any spring as such. The only thing that pushes the latch
> back to its original position (to make it snap and lock the 100 so it won't
> open) is two little pieces of flexible plastic that act as spring -- and
> mine had bent/cracked. Called HP to get another one, but they couldn't sell
> me the part separately. Result: I just forgot about the whole thing and used
> an elastic band to hold the 100 closed.

Did you think about the solution mentioned here in the list
several times: Replacing the two plastic springs with a piece
of rubber band or something?
I haven't tried this, but some people reported that it was
successful.


before:                                    after:

------__________------                    ------_________-------
       ¬      ¬                                 =========
----------------------                    ----------------------
    screen screen                             screen   screen



This 'graphic' shows the screen of the palmtop ('screen') and the
latch above the screen.
The '¬' are the plastic springs and the '========' is the
rubber band, the '------' are the borders of the case and the screen,
the '_______' is the latch.

My English is not the best, so I think it's better to descrbe it
with the graphic than with words... :-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Isaque,

> Well as I couldn't turn it off, i got out all batterys and put them again,

Did you try the hard reset 'ctrl-shift-on'? That must be your first
try when the palmtop's not reacting.
Removing the batteries is ont the solution!

> but now I can't turn on again my HP200LX. Sometimes it beeps sometimes not.
> Please if you know something, anything about this problem please, contact.

The only idea that i have is removing _all_ batteries (including
the backup battery!), wait a few hours, inserting all betteries
again and try once more.


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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:07:25 -0500
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Jon,

Thanks for the input.  There is one spring-loaded "pogo pin" *near* the
serial connector that is disconnected when the bottom is off.  It connects
the metal shield inside the bottom cover to ground on the PC board.  Since
the shield is also connected to one side of the battery compartment yours
is a possibility, though slight.  Considering HP's penchant for quality, I
highly doubt they'd use a pogo pin for a crucial connection.  (Plus it
doesn't work with the bottom off OR on.)

Still, in an effort to leave no tern unstoned, I'll try reassembling the
machine as well as jumping the connection to make sure there's no
difference.

Presuming there isn't -- and I'll definitely yell if things go back to
working! -- anyone have any other ideas?  Schematics would *really* help...

Rick

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On 3/8/99, at 8:47 AM, Carson, Jon A. wrote:

>Maybe having the cover off disconnects a ground to the serial port ?
>
>Just a thought...
>
>Jon C.

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Backlights have been done experimentally by a couple of folks (mostly in
Japan).  I have seen a couple of Web sites that address the issue, one with
a full photo set.  I'm off to work in a moment and don't have time to dig
up the URLs, but if you try a couple of AltaVista searches you will
probably turn it up.  If you can't find it and no one else has the URL let
me know; I'll see if I can turn it up later.

As I understand it, the biggest problem (besides the delicacy of the
operation) is the power required to run the backlight.  It turns out that
electroluminescence (e.g. "indiglo") is about the least efficient method of
generating light available; it's worse even than plain old incandescent.

Fluorescent backlights are much more efficient, but still require an
external battery pack according to one of the pages I read.  Plus, they
expressed a concern that the useful life of the fluorescent they used was
only about 3,000 hours.

Another option is LED panels, but there again you have the power issue.  A
16x2 LCD display I'm using for a development project is LED backlit, and
the manufacturer quites *500* mA!  By pulsing the power it can be brought
down to about a tenth of that with reasonable brightness, but that's still
a lot of additional load to throw on a pair of AAs.  Plus remember, this
backlight is *tiny* compared to what would be behind an LX screen, so that
would most likely drive the power way back up.  And I understand getting
even illumination is a problem with this approach as well.

Sure would love to have a backlit HP__LX display, though!  (Well, assuming
I could get my serial port to work.  Grr.)

Rick

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On 3/9/99, at 10:36 PM, John Watson wrote:

>Can't anyone manufacture lx's with a back lit screen?.
>
>Philippe Lewis wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried to put an indiglo light behind their 100/200 screen?
>> Seems like it would do the job.

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Comments: To: "super@palmtop.net" <super@palmtop.net>

Hi, I'm writing this e-mail because I couldn't save my data from HP200LX.
She's dead. The unique way I got to boot again was getting out all batteries
and to hold for +/- 1 minute the on/off key.

Anyway, thank you guys whom tried to help me.

About me, this is a hard new beginning...

isaque.

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Hi list,


does anyone have the WYSIWYG-Addon for 1-2-3 running on
the x00LX?

GTX
daniel

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Sean,
  I'd be very interested in testing your program. I do have VB5 so I would
would not need a installable version. It sounds as if you have a pretty
viable approach. When you get it up on the FTP site, let us know.

Thanks!!!
Mark Matlock

> I have completed an 'Alpha' cut of a program that will convert an exported
> Outlook '97 appointment book to a CSV file suitable for running through
> ADBLOAD (which can be found on S.U.P.E.R).
>
> This is the process:
>
> 1) Export appointments from Outlook '97 to a Microsoft Access file
> 2) Run my program to read the Microsoft Access file and create a CSV file
> 3) Run ADBLOAD on the CSV file to create an ADB file
> 4) In the HP Appt. program, merge the above created ADB file.
>
> I am using an Access file because I was having problems with Outlook
> embedding characters such as quotes among other things inside the fields,
> and since the Outlook output file serves no other purpose, it really does
> not matter.
>
> Something else that I _will_ add soon is the input and output filenames as
> command line parameters to my program so this whole process could be run
> from a single batch file potentially.
>
> If anyone would like to do some Alpha testing, let me know.  I have not
> created an install yet, so if you have VB5 installed, I could just send the
> .exe.  Hopefully tomorrow I will have time to create a full setup that I
> will stick on my FTP site.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Mar 1999 06:06:41 -0800
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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My solution to the backlight deficit has been to carry a AAA single cell
maglight.  The cost is around $10.00 and it's very small.  It also comes in
handy during a blackout, etc.  Not a perfect solution, but it's better than
nothing at all.

Wayne

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:58:19 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Presuming there isn't -- and I'll definitely yell if things go back to
> working! -- anyone have any other ideas?  Schematics would *really* =
help...

It might be the Max charge pump chip used to drive the serial port.
You should see it not very far from the serial port.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:29:53 -0600
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              Jonathan Sivier <j-sivier@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
In-Reply-To:  <199903101342.NAA02194@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> from "Daniel
              Hertrich" at Mar 10, 99 01:42:52 pm
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   Speaking of this (add-ins for 123 for the HP200), is there a source for
add-ins of various kinds?  I've seen a file browser add-in mentioned that
looks useful, but haven't any idea where to look for such a thing.

Jonathan

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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      pcmcia modem

I have a Megahertz Xjack XJ2288 (28.8/14.4). On the
back, one line reads:

REN: 0.5B, Load: 4, 5V

No "mA" was listed. Does anyone know if this is usable in a
200LX?

thanks
n.


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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:47:42 -0500
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: WYSIWYG-Add-on for 123?
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I'll be doing some testing with Allways. This is the original add-on for 123
that handled WYSIWYG. It was from Funk Software and has had no updates since
it's release in 1988



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Daniel Hertrich
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:43 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?


Hi list,


does anyone have the WYSIWYG-Addon for 1-2-3 running on
the x00LX?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:07:49 -0500
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I'd be interested in doing some testing when you're ready for a novice.  I
do have Access (though I have not used it).  I don't have VB5 that I am
aware of.  What is it and where in the process do you use it?

L. Brooks

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:16:34 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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An entry from an old modem FAQ (http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/pccrdpwr.txt)
says:

6.  Megahertz PCMCIA Modems    (800) 527-8677 (Tech Support)
    modem        Online  Standby  Sleep  Fax      Compatibility
    XJ1144       130ma    40ma     15ma  Class 2  HP100/200LX
    XJ2144       155ma    60ma     16ma  Class 2  HP100/200LX
    XJ2288       275ma    50ma     50ma  Class 1&2

So it looks like the XJ2288 in online mode uses too much power for the 200LX's
150ma slot (on paper at least).

- Longden





"Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM> on 03/10/99 07:44:08 AM

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Subject:  pcmcia modem




I have a Megahertz Xjack XJ2288 (28.8/14.4). On the
back, one line reads:

REN: 0.5B, Load: 4, 5V

No "mA" was listed. Does anyone know if this is usable in a
200LX?

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:03:21 -0500
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Ok.  I have put the software up at http://www.pcdevel.com  There are some
brief instructions on how to use it.

If anyone has any problems, please let me know.

Have fun

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Matlock <matlock@LTC.ADMWORLD.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook to HP Conversion


>Sean,
>  I'd be very interested in testing your program. I do have VB5 so I would
>would not need a installable version. It sounds as if you have a pretty
>viable approach. When you get it up on the FTP site, let us know.
>
>Thanks!!!
>Mark Matlock
>
>> I have completed an 'Alpha' cut of a program that will convert an
exported
>> Outlook '97 appointment book to a CSV file suitable for running through
>> ADBLOAD (which can be found on S.U.P.E.R).
>>
>> This is the process:
>>
>> 1) Export appointments from Outlook '97 to a Microsoft Access file
>> 2) Run my program to read the Microsoft Access file and create a CSV file
>> 3) Run ADBLOAD on the CSV file to create an ADB file
>> 4) In the HP Appt. program, merge the above created ADB file.
>>
>> I am using an Access file because I was having problems with Outlook
>> embedding characters such as quotes among other things inside the fields,
>> and since the Outlook output file serves no other purpose, it really does
>> not matter.
>>
>> Something else that I _will_ add soon is the input and output filenames
as
>> command line parameters to my program so this whole process could be run
>> from a single batch file potentially.
>>
>> If anyone would like to do some Alpha testing, let me know.  I have not
>> created an install yet, so if you have VB5 installed, I could just send
the
>> .exe.  Hopefully tomorrow I will have time to create a full setup that I
>> will stick on my FTP site.
>
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Hi

You don't need Access, it's just the type of file that needs to be generated
from Outlook.  VB5 is Microsoft Visual Basic 5.0.  If you don't have it
installed, or the support libraries from Microsoft, the .exe will not run.
Later after the program has been tested, I will make an installation program
that will put the above mentioned files on the system.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: L. Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook to HP Conversion


>I'd be interested in doing some testing when you're ready for a novice.  I
>do have Access (though I have not used it).  I don't have VB5 that I am
>aware of.  What is it and where in the process do you use it?
>
>L. Brooks
>
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Has anyone done any mechanical mods to their doubleslot to make the
expanse of bare PWB between the dblslot box and the palmtop more
sturdy?  Mine has just a bit too much flexure to make me comfortable.
I've been toying with some ideas to strengthen it, but thought I'd
ask first.

Related... what are the typical max insertion/extraction cycles for
(a) the 200LX PCMCIA socket, (b) double slot's PCMCIA sockets, and (c)
a typical PCMCIA device like flash cards and modems?  (Should I be so
lucky that a list member has a table of this info, I have an XJ1144,
ST160MB Flash, and Accton 146226-1 cards).

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 03:36:16 +0200
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Subject:      For Freecell freaks

I found game 785547 to be a real tough one. Took me a couple of sittings!


======================
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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:58:04 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Yep, I tried putting something behing the latch, but it only worked
marginally. Now my dad has my old 100 with the broken latch, and he's
basically using it without anything to hold the 100 closed.

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@gmx.de>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Philippe Lewis
<p.lewis@USA.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latch Problem/Question


>Hi Philippe,
>
>> When I had my 100 (now it's a 200), the latch stopped working at some
point.
>> Since I could not hear any pieces bouncing around, it wasn't obvious what
>> wasn't working. The latch simply would not go back. By carefully prying
the
>> case (the screen part) open, I managed to remove the latch, and found out
>> that there isn't any spring as such. The only thing that pushes the latch
>> back to its original position (to make it snap and lock the 100 so it
won't
>> open) is two little pieces of flexible plastic that act as spring -- and
>> mine had bent/cracked. Called HP to get another one, but they couldn't
sell
>> me the part separately. Result: I just forgot about the whole thing and
used
>> an elastic band to hold the 100 closed.
>
>Did you think about the solution mentioned here in the list
>several times: Replacing the two plastic springs with a piece
>of rubber band or something?
>I haven't tried this, but some people reported that it was
>successful.
>
>
>before:                                    after:
>
>------__________------                    ------_________-------
>       ¬      ¬                                 =========
>----------------------                    ----------------------
>    screen screen                             screen   screen
>
>
>
>This 'graphic' shows the screen of the palmtop ('screen') and the
>latch above the screen.
>The '¬' are the plastic springs and the '========' is the
>rubber band, the '------' are the borders of the case and the screen,
>the '_______' is the latch.
>
>My English is not the best, so I think it's better to descrbe it
>with the graphic than with words... :-)
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
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>
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>          \_/| ||||     |     \___ |__/
>
>TEL:            +49(0)30/38309158
>Handy:    0177/7955549  +  0177/8616031
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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:18:06 -0800
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I just started using ACT at work and have found version 1.X for the palmtop,
but havent installed it yet anyone use this before and have any good advice?
Thanks


Antony Siegert
ksfm 102.5
Sacramento Ca

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I am only lucky enough to have a desktop at work and as most of you know,
you get what you get.  My desktop doesnt have an additional 9pin serial port
(i.e. com1, com2 etc)  Any suggestions on how I could connect my 200lx to
it?  Thanks all

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Did anyone succeed to run Word 2.0 for Windows? This
version, is it written for Windows 3.0 or for 3.1?

I've tried versions 5.5 and 6.0 for DOS, and 1.1 for
Windows. My favourite is the version for Windows, but
without the Help file (my case), some details are simply
out of reach :-(.

I have the complete version 2.0, but before I try to
install it, I'd like to hear a piece of advice.

Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Dejan Radic wrote:

> Did anyone succeed to run Word 2.0 for Windows? This
> version, is it written for Windows 3.0 or for 3.1?
>
> I have the complete version 2.0, but before I try to
> install it, I'd like to hear a piece of advice.


I never could get 2.0 running on Win 3.0, on the palmtop.  I believe Word
2.0 requires more memory than the LX can provide, as well as forcing
standard or 386 mode.  (The LX can only run in real mode.)

Word for Windows 1.1 runs well, though.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

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This story had a happy ending. I tried getting help from Thaddeus, but
got nowhere with their customer service. Within an hour after posting
my message to this list, I got an e-mail from Mack Baggette (THANKS,
Mack!), who sent me a modification to the rdt2t.exe driver which
reinitializes the 64MB drive. The new driver overwrites only the boot
sector which, fortunately for me, is where the corruption was
confined. I ran chkdsk/f and all was well--no data lost, no need for
complete reinitialization.

Another postscript: Apparently, the problem was caused by static
discharge--I often get a small "zap" when I touch the palmtop while in
my office. It seems to be worse when there is a PC card inserted. Mack
said that the DRAM chips used for the memory upgrade are susceptible
to static discharge and some are located directly beneath the card
slot. He also recommended that I wear a ground strap on my wrist while
using my palmtop in a static-prone area (such as my office).

Tom Sanko
-----Original Message-----
From: John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@codenet.net>
To: Tom Sanko <tomsanko@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Major problem with 64MB upgrade


>Tom,
>
>  Did you ever resolve your 64MB upgrade problem??
>I am about to send mine off for the upgrade and was
>wondering if your trouble was user-fixable or if you
>had to send it back.
>
>tnx,
>john
>
>-- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net
>

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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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I being a bit of a gadget junkie have accumulated quite a few handhelds
and related devices that are not seeing use and could use a good home,
so i have the following items for sale:

HP 95lx (512k ram, belt clip case, Connection kit (cable+software))
In overall good condition.  The spring on the latch which holds the lid shut
is
a little weak from use.  ($85 + Shipping)

Newton OMP 100 (640k ram, OS 1.3, Connection cable, Modem, etc)
Good condition, includes connection cable, slipcase, 2400b external modem,
software includes: Grafitti (and other sofware from Newton Enhancement pak),
Money business forms, TapWorks, Pocket Quicken.  ($100 + Shipping)

HP Omnigo 100 (1mb ram, GEOS based PDA)
Geos based pda, note taker, spreadsheet, etc. Grafitti handwriting
recognition,
and/or fully keyboard used for input.  In near mint condition (has about
4hrs use)
with original packaging, manuals, etc. ($100 + Shipping)

Zenith Mini-sport (2mb RAM model)
A piece of history, one of the first sub notebooks, weighing in at about
5+lbs
with a 640x200 backlit CGA screen, 80C88 processor, 2mb of ram for use
as main memory and/or a ram disk, and DOS in rom.  This unit is fitted with
a 2" 720k disk drive for data storage and includes a 10pak of 2" floppy
disks,
the machine, AC Adapter / Charger, a good battery, and original Zenith
minisport carrying case.  New this unit cost over 2k + $75 for the case, but
since its been in my closet for at least a few years <g> Im selling it at
$50 + shipping.

Compaq SLT/286
1mb RAM, 40mb HD, 2400b Modem, 286 processor, 1.44mb 3.5" floppy
drive, Monochrome VGA paper white display.  Comes with DOS 5 installed,
(although it should run Win 3.0), AC Adapter/Charger, and a brand new
battery (purchased battery new for $117 for use by a relative who later
purchased a newer machine, has less than 5hrs use on the battery).
($100 + shipping)

IBM PC-110 (486-33 palmtop)
2/3 the size of a VHS video tape, this is quite a powerhouse that I have
mixed
feelings about selling but since ive upgraded to a libretto it has to go.
Specs:
486/33, 8mb RAM, 4.7" DSTN color screen, 4mb Internal flash with dos
installed,
170mb PCMCIA III hd with Win95 installed (smallest win95 notebook
available),
trackpoint style pointing device, Soundblaster compatible audio, microphone,
builtin 2400b modem. Expansion slots include 1 pico (Compact) flash slot, 2
type II card slots or 1 type III card slot (currently containing HD), AC
adapter,
battery (uses standard sony camcorder batteries), zippered slipcase and
carry
case which holds the slipcase as well as the ac adapter, etc.

This unit is an amazing piece of work.  with a similar size to the 100/200
series
but with processing power and battery life more along the lines of a
notebook.
($400 + shipping)

If you are interested in or have questions about any of the above let me
know at
driden@stlnet.com

Thanks, and sorry if this post is inappropriate for the list, but thought
the LX folks
may be interested in these.  Even though im not actively using my 100lx at
the moment
(using a Libretto + PalmPilot) I still cant bring myself to sell it as i
seem to gravitate
back that way every other time ive strayed. :)

BTW: Im also looking for an HP Omnibook 300/425/430. basically a 386 or 486
notebook
with a reflective screen that will run off AA batteries in an emergency, so
would be interested
in trades for these items. Just a thought.


Dan Ridenhour
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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:27:24 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      static discharges (was Re: Major problem with 64MB upgrade)
Comments: To: Tom Sanko <tomsanko@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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1999-03-10-21:55:41 Tom Sanko:
> Another postscript: Apparently, the problem was caused by static
> discharge--I often get a small "zap" when I touch the palmtop while in
> my office. It seems to be worse when there is a PC card inserted. Mack
> said that the DRAM chips used for the memory upgrade are susceptible
> to static discharge and some are located directly beneath the card
> slot. He also recommended that I wear a ground strap on my wrist while
> using my palmtop in a static-prone area (such as my office).

Well, hrm. A grounding strap is just the sort of fashion statement I need to
push my image right over the top, so maybe I oughta start wearing one at all
times, but meanwhile, what I've noticed is that walking over the wool carpet
to my desk is where I build up the zap, I don't collect much while I'm just
sitting here resting. So I've gotten in the habit of touching some exposed
metal first thing when I get to the desk. Often the exposed metal is when I'm
pulling out my LX to plug it into the AC adaptor, I touch the exposed metal of
the adaptor plug before I slip it into the LX.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:48:05 -0800
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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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FYI-

I have to keep static out of a computerized police and fire dispatch center.
I don't think I could have gotten all the dispatchers to wear wrist straps,
so I ended up spraying the carpet and plastic chair mats with anti static
spray once a month.

To test that this was working, I didn't spary for a few months, and ended up
with a failure on a console (due to static).   If I keep up the spraying,
all is well.

-Tim

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From: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 2:23 PM
Subject: static discharges (was Re: Major problem with 64MB upgrade)


>1999-03-10-21:55:41 Tom Sanko:
>> Another postscript: Apparently, the problem was caused by static
>> discharge--I often get a small "zap" when I touch the palmtop while in
>> my office. It seems to be worse when there is a PC card inserted. Mack
>> said that the DRAM chips used for the memory upgrade are susceptible
>> to static discharge and some are located directly beneath the card
>> slot. He also recommended that I wear a ground strap on my wrist while
>> using my palmtop in a static-prone area (such as my office).
>
>Well, hrm. A grounding strap is just the sort of fashion statement I need
to
>push my image right over the top, so maybe I oughta start wearing one at
all
>times, but meanwhile, what I've noticed is that walking over the wool
carpet
>to my desk is where I build up the zap, I don't collect much while I'm just
>sitting here resting. So I've gotten in the habit of touching some exposed
>metal first thing when I get to the desk. Often the exposed metal is when
I'm
>pulling out my LX to plug it into the AC adaptor, I touch the exposed metal
of
>the adaptor plug before I slip it into the LX.
>
>-Bennett
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:00:06 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Buddy in mult. Software Carousel sessions?

Hi all,

I've got several (Super) Software Carousel Questions, I'll "dump" them all
here, because they may interrelate:

Current Setup: Thad. upgrade (BIG Swapped C: drive) w/ doublespeed and
SuperSoftware Carousel.

1) Buddy works in only the base session ÝCTL-1¨ of SC. How do I enable it in
the other Ýor selective other¨ sessions?

2) How do I add a 4th SC session to swap in and out of?

3) I see, by the Thaddeus documentation, that Zoom comes w/ the Super
Software Carousel, how do I enable it?

4) <A "dumb" question> Will MaxDos and/or the EMM drivers avail for the 200
help me much and when should I use them Ýplus will they crash SC and how do
I enable them in one or more or all sessions¨?

Enough for one post?

TIA for any help!!

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
254-287-7608

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email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:21:15 -0000
Reply-To:     abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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Hi,

Due, probably, to a change in the POP's software my ISP stopped
talking with WWW/LX (it doesn't complete the IPCP negociation). I
discovered that Nettamer talks with my ISP (go figure why
WWW/LX doesn=B4t and Nettamer does). But I don't like very much
the Nettamer handling and user interface and while I wait for an
answer from my ISP (or a pass of magic from Avi and his team or
from Andreas) I was thinking of using PNR but I'm almost illiterate
regarding the LXTCP and DOS PPP configurations. I already have
the information about what my ISP expects to receive from my side.

Would anyone be kind enough to help me with the configuration
with a step by step guide <G>

TIA

Antonio


---------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
Cell Phone + 351 931 555590
Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m.
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
menezesantonio@netscape.net

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:51:24 -0600
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>This story had a happy ending. I tried getting help from Thaddeus, but
>got nowhere with their customer service. Within an hour after posting
>my message to this list, I got an e-mail from Mack Baggette (THANKS,
>Mack!), who sent me a modification to the rdt2t.exe driver which
>reinitializes the 64MB drive. The new driver overwrites only the boot
>sector which, fortunately for me, is where the corruption was
>confined. I ran chkdsk/f and all was well--no data lost, no need for
>complete reinitialization.

 In all fairness, Thaddeus would not have been able to offer the help I gave
you specifically as I am the only one with the code for the driver since I
wrote it.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:04:29 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>2) How do I add a 4th SC session to swap in and out of?

Hopefully you received a printed Users Guide with SSC. Somewhere in there=

you'll find a recipe for adding a 4th session to SC.  Go for it.  =


>>1)  How do I enable Buddy in the other Ýor selective other¨ sessions?
The other sessions for SSC are DOS sessions. Buddy won't work there. If y=
ou
add a second Sys Mgr session, you can install Buddy from the batch file
that starts the  session.

>>Will MaxDos and/or the EMM drivers avail for the 200 help me much and
when should I use them

EMM is not supported by SSC. However TREMM, available with upgraded
machines, is. It works fine. Some users claim that it speeds up the swap
times. The downside is that it takes a little extra memory to drive the
TREMM setup.

>>ZOOM.
Hopefully there's a ZOOM.DOC file on the SSC-CD. The ALT+Filer keys start=
s
ZOOM on my machine but I may have messed up Hal's installation routine.

.ed.
Ed Keefe ÝPTP¨ & author of the Users Guide.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:02:54 -0800
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      TECH: need help with serial connection

I've turned in my IBM Thinkpad, with the built in card slot, for a couple of desktops with no card slots. I can't get my old Databook card drive working, and I can't seem to get my serial cable connection working, either. I'm using the regular HP connection software with Win98, but I seem to have lost my instruction book. The software loaded just fine.  Can anyone give me the communications settings for the serial connection to the desktop (like is it 2400 or 9600 or what)? I'm working with an HP 200 LX, and using the 100LX software, but I don't think that should make any difference. I also run Buddy, but I make sure the serial port is "on" every time I try to make the connection.

ALSO: does anyone use a card drive with a desktop...which one would you recommend?

Thanks.

Mina Carson

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:46:06 -0500
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> Does ABC/LX monitor non-rechargeables such as alkalines, or is it just a
> program for re-chargeables.

ABC/LX is a program to enable and disable charging in order to
automate the charging of NiCd of NiMH batteries.  It would not
be much use with alkalines.  In fact, ABC complains if you
have alkalines in there.

There is another program by D&A Software called VOLT/LX which
is exactly what you want.  It has the monitoring features of
ABC/LX, but not the charging stuff.  Check out the web site at
www.dasoft.com.


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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:31:22 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Double Slot - Mechanical
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hi,
could you tell me if you use at the same time
the flash cad and the accton with the double slot?
regards
al
> I have an XJ1144,
> ST160MB Flash, and Accton 146226-1 cards).


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:50:34 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi All

Is there a way to mute all alarms for say the duration of a meeting?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:57:47 EST
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 3/10/1999 3:01:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, p.lewis@USA.NET
writes:

> Yep, I tried putting something behind the latch, but it only worked
>  marginally.

There are two sides to this question.  The "something" has to be thick enough
to hold the latch in the "out" position, soft enough to allow pushing to the
"in" position, and resilient enough to keep the latch out when you are not
pushing it.  I tried several different rubber bands, with no success.  I ended
up with a fairly stiff rubber band of the correct thickness, which I cut
several "teeth" out of to soften.  This has worked very will for some months.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:21:20 -0600
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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Anyone have a spare laying around?
For $25 shipped?

I know, I should have bought a couple at $10
when Necx still had some closeouts.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:45:27 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Busted 200LX, looking for replacement
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I had dropped my HP200LX in December and had a problem with some keys after
that. The HP service centre in Hong Kong replaced the keyboard and in the
process discovered some white deposits on the logic board. They recommended
that I replace the logic board, too. I chose not to have the logic board
replaced.

I had several intermittent cases of data corruption since then. Sometimes I
would see files with strange names of a few hundred megabytes in size!
Couldn't figure out why. The LX finally gave up the ghost last week and HP
service centre said that I have to replace the logic board and a phenomenal
cost. I rejected the offer. When I got the machine back I saw that the
warranty seal put by HP the last time they repaired my unit was still
intact.From the intact condition of the warranty seal  I strongly suspect
that they did not even bother to open the unit to check what was wrong this
time.

While I am thoroughly disappointed with the HP service I am still looking
for a replacement 200LX. I studied various other options (CE machines, Palm
Pilot, etc) but none could really be a replacement for what I really need.
I looked far and wide but I could not find the 200LX with any dealer in
Hong Kong.

Is there any place where I can get it on mail order? I know that the
palmtoppaper site sells upgraded equipment with double speed and additional
RAM and they have a very good reputation among users. However, I would
prefer to buy a HP200LX 4 MB model with HP warranty (being in Hong Kong I
feel more comfortable with the HP warranty than one based in the US, unless
someone can convince me otherwise!)

So, the question is - where can I buy a replacement unit?

many thanks

Anand Rao.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:59:33 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Busted 200LX, looking for replacement
Comments: To: slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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I wouldn't worry about Thaddeus; they're VERY reputable... and for the
price of a new 4MB unit you can get one of Thaddeus' reconditioned
super-charged Units.  I've got two, myself, and they are GREAT!!  Or,
have them repair your unit... they'll do that for a reasonable flat fee.
Or keep your unit for spare parts and get a Thaddues machine.  Great
stuff.  I'm not affilated with 'em, other than a perfectly happy customer.

Bill

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, slim1005 wrote:

> Is there any place where I can get it on mail order? I know that the
> palmtoppaper site sells upgraded equipment with double speed and additional
> RAM and they have a very good reputation among users. However, I would
> prefer to buy a HP200LX 4 MB model with HP warranty (being in Hong Kong I
> feel more comfortable with the HP warranty than one based in the US, unless
> someone can convince me otherwise!)
>
> So, the question is - where can I buy a replacement unit?
>
> many thanks
>
> Anand Rao.
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:55:33 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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I have ACT for Palmtop and Act Dos, Win 1.x, 2.x,
3.x & 4x

The only one I can get to work with ACT! for
palmtops is ver 2x

asiegert wrote:
>
> I just started using ACT at work and have found version 1.X for the palmtop,
> but havent installed it yet anyone use this before and have any good advice?
> Thanks
>
> Antony Siegert
> ksfm 102.5
> Sacramento Ca
>
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--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:45:54 +0100
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I have some flicker on the screen of my 200LX sometimes. When I move the screen
back and forth, it works ok. What could be the problem?

1) contacts (would be cleanable)

2) cable? (worst scenario)

any suggestions?

 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:49:55 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi,

> I had several intermittent cases of data corruption since then. Sometime=
s I
> would see files with strange names of a few hundred megabytes in size!
> Couldn't figure out why. The LX finally gave up the ghost last week and =
HP
> service centre said that I have to replace the logic board and a =
phenomenal
> cost. I rejected the offer. When I got the machine back I saw that the
> warranty seal put by HP the last time they repaired my unit was still
> intact.From the intact condition of the warranty seal  I strongly =
suspect
> that they did not even bother to open the unit to check what was wrong =
this
> time.

For your information- when HP opens a faulty unit and repair or take a
look at it as in your case- the warranty seal is replaced with a new
one. So they have checked it- that's for sure.
>
> While I am thoroughly disappointed with the HP service I am still =
looking
> for a replacement 200LX. I studied various other options (CE machines, =
Palm
> Pilot, etc) but none could really be a replacement for what I really =
need.
> I looked far and wide but I could not find the 200LX with any dealer in
> Hong Kong.

So why are you so disappointed at HP's service? They told you earlier
that you should replace the board in order to avoid problems. You
decided not to, so it's your own fault- right?


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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:25:25 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> Another option is LED panels, but there again you have the power issue. =
 A
> 16x2 LCD display I'm using for a development project is LED backlit, =
and
> the manufacturer quites *500* mA!

The German newspaper "FAZ" had a few month ago an article on
it's Technical Page reporting about a breaktrough in LED
manufacturing. If I remember right, it is now possible to
produce very low power white light LEDs. The first application
is a credit card torch powered with a button cell lasting for
*TEN* years. I will go to the library, dig out the article and
translate the relevant parts for you. Be patient. Maybe this
our backlight solution.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:42:10 +10
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hi,
is some one using PCanywhere 5 dos or lantastic 6.
I would be please to hear from you.
regards
Alain
Al
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:41:30 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              11, 99 00:31:22 am
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> could you tell me if you use at the same time
> the flash cad and the accton with the double slot?

Yes.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:50:11 -0500
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At 07:46 PM 3/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> Does ABC/LX monitor non-rechargeables such as alkalines, or is it just a
>> program for re-chargeables.
>There is another program by D&A Software called VOLT/LX which
>is exactly what you want.  It has the monitoring features of
>ABC/LX, but not the charging stuff.  Check out the web site at
>www.dasoft.com.
>
>Stanley Dobrowski

??? Looked at D&A webpage and ftp site and counldn't find voltlx. The ftp
voltlx directory is empty also.


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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:52:45 -0500
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At 12:50 PM 3/11/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi All
>
>Is there a way to mute all alarms for say the duration of a meeting?
>
>TIA
>
>Russell
>
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Yes, go to alarm, menu, options, alarm beep..., spacebar to check the mute
alarm checkbox.
Don't forget to un-check the mute box after your meeting!

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:57:42 -0500
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>??? Looked at D&A webpage and ftp site and counldn't find voltlx. The ftp
>voltlx directory is empty also.
>
>
Sorry, looked a little more and found the info.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:21:25 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Alarm Mute?
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> >Is there a way to mute all alarms for say the duration of a meeting?
> >
> Yes, go to alarm, menu, options, alarm beep..., spacebar to check the mute
> alarm checkbox.
> Don't forget to un-check the mute box after your meeting!

I don't think this is what was asked... he was looking for a way to mute
ALL alarms, not one particular one.  I, too, would like to know this.
Would just turning off the speaker volume do the trick, or is the alarm
clever enough to crank up the volume by itself?



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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:10:13 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Russell,

> Is there a way to mute all alarms for say the duration of a meeting?

Try Stefan Peichl's 'LXPRO', available on S.U.P.E.R.
It's a small TSR which you can pop up with 'ctrl-tab'.
Then you can ajust the volume of the speaker with the '6'
key.

'LXPRO' has also lots of other features.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:17:01 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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When I run "trim" under the file menu in Pocket Quicken, it cleans out
entries but does not seem to compress the data file size to make it
smaller. Any ideas on what is going on and how to reduce the file size
in proportion to removing a year of data?

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:26:08 -0500
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> David Bengtson <dbengtson@POBOX.COM>

> Has anyone out in Palmtop land run GnuPlot? Gnuplot is a Free plotting
> application that takes data and graphs it. I'm trying to run a program
> that uses Gnuplot for graphical output, and would like to get a
> working version. I now that version 3.7 doesn't work in the Palmtop.=20

I am running the OS/2 port at work.  Thought it would
solve some problems we have here.  It didn't, so haven't
used it too much.

For information, try
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/gnuplot_info.html
and
ftp://ftp.dartmouth.edu/pub/gnuplot
for source and binaries.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:48:50 -0500
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:04:29 -0500, Ed Keefe wrote:

>>>1)  How do I enable Buddy in the other Ýor selective other¨ sessions?

>The other sessions for SSC are DOS sessions. Buddy won't work there. If you
>add a second Sys Mgr session, you can install Buddy from the batch file
>that starts the  session.

There are a LOT of features of BUDDY that pertain to DOS operations (ref.
section 5.15.1 of the manual, BUDDY.TXT).   Further, there is a BUDDYDOS.COM
program supplied (and activated for registered users) which is DOS-only.

I don't understand the "Buddy won't work there"....

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> When I run "trim" under the file menu in Pocket Quicken, it cleans out
> entries but does not seem to compress the data file size to make it
> smaller. Any ideas on what is going on and how to reduce the file size
> in proportion to removing a year of data?

Check out this article that I wrote a while back:

http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/quicken.htm
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:54:34 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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> Is there a way to mute all alarms for say the duration of a meeting?

The previous suggestion (to use MENU-O-B-SPACEBAR) is valid
for any Appointment Book alarms.

This command is distinct from enabling/disabling an individual
alarm (within Item Edit).  The System setting (CTRL-FILER-F5)
may also be used to mute beeps.

If you use Jorgen Wallgren's HP Alarm Clock, be aware that it
will override either of these mute settings.  In fact, if HP Alarm
Clock sounds an alarm, it also toggles off the Appointment Book
mute (if it was on).

I have not investigated the built-in Stopwatch/Timer/Alarm Clock.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:12:21 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Busted 200LX, looking for replacement

re:
>I wouldn't worry about Thaddeus; they're VERY reputable... and for the
>price of a new 4MB unit you can get one of Thaddeus' reconditioned
>super-charged Units.  I've got two, myself, and they are GREAT!!  Or,
>have them repair your unit... they'll do that for a reasonable flat fee.

I've gotta echo Bill Childers' comments ÝI'm also not affiliated w/ them¨.

I don't know about overseas mailing times, but in our "global economy" It
makes sense to give them a shot.  Any time I've had any "troubles" w/
Thaddeus it's been in small miscommunications Ý1/2 the time, my fault¨ and
they've bent over backwards to more than make up the difference.

Since I often have to leave Ýsometimes the country¨ on short notice, they've
been great at meeting my needs for last minute upgrades or repairs AND
they've emailed me replacement drivers, w/ How-2-fix instructions, while I
was away Ýin one case, very recently, this kept me from losing a LOT of data
and doing w/o the back-up (which, somehow, was in a different state)¨.

My $.02

--tim


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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:15:40 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Buddy in mult. Software Carousel
Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>

re:
>Hopefully you received a printed Users Guide with SSC. Somewhere in there
>you'll find a recipe for adding a 4th session to SC.  Go for it.

I did get the book; just being lazy ;-)

I'll delve into the text this weekend.

Thanks for the advice on the other bits!

--tim

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:29:49 +0100
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I am using the HP200 to wake me up in the morning. However, I also want to
use the password feature of the HP200. But when an alarm wakes up the
password protected HP, it does not play the intended melody/alarm noise, but
only beeps a little before requesting password. Is there any way around
this? Then I could write a batch-file to be run at the desired time, first
unlocking the HP, then running a wake-up noise program with appropriate
requests for keypresses and with timed repetitions, and when satisfied that
I have waken up sufficiently, it should lock the HP again.

I have found no way to enter the off/enter key combination with keystuff
etc., or to unlock the HP from a batch file. Is there a way?

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Subject:      Re: FS: Handhelds HP & others, etc. early spring cleaning.
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I am interested in the IBM 110 if it is still available.  Would you ship
COD to north Idaho?

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> I being a bit of a gadget junkie have accumulated quite a few handhelds
> and related devices that are not seeing use and could use a good home,
> so i have the following items for sale:
>
> HP 95lx (512k ram, belt clip case, Connection kit (cable+software))
> In overall good condition.  The spring on the latch which holds the lid shut
> is
> a little weak from use.  ($85 + Shipping)
>
> Newton OMP 100 (640k ram, OS 1.3, Connection cable, Modem, etc)
> Good condition, includes connection cable, slipcase, 2400b external modem,
> software includes: Grafitti (and other sofware from Newton Enhancement pak),
> Money business forms, TapWorks, Pocket Quicken.  ($100 + Shipping)
>
> HP Omnigo 100 (1mb ram, GEOS based PDA)
> Geos based pda, note taker, spreadsheet, etc. Grafitti handwriting
> recognition,
> and/or fully keyboard used for input.  In near mint condition (has about
> 4hrs use)
> with original packaging, manuals, etc. ($100 + Shipping)
>
> Zenith Mini-sport (2mb RAM model)
> A piece of history, one of the first sub notebooks, weighing in at about
> 5+lbs
> with a 640x200 backlit CGA screen, 80C88 processor, 2mb of ram for use
> as main memory and/or a ram disk, and DOS in rom.  This unit is fitted with
> a 2" 720k disk drive for data storage and includes a 10pak of 2" floppy
> disks,
> the machine, AC Adapter / Charger, a good battery, and original Zenith
> minisport carrying case.  New this unit cost over 2k + $75 for the case, but
> since its been in my closet for at least a few years <g> Im selling it at
> $50 + shipping.
>
> Compaq SLT/286
> 1mb RAM, 40mb HD, 2400b Modem, 286 processor, 1.44mb 3.5" floppy
> drive, Monochrome VGA paper white display.  Comes with DOS 5 installed,
> (although it should run Win 3.0), AC Adapter/Charger, and a brand new
> battery (purchased battery new for $117 for use by a relative who later
> purchased a newer machine, has less than 5hrs use on the battery).
> ($100 + shipping)
>
> IBM PC-110 (486-33 palmtop)
> 2/3 the size of a VHS video tape, this is quite a powerhouse that I have
> mixed
> feelings about selling but since ive upgraded to a libretto it has to go.
> Specs:
> 486/33, 8mb RAM, 4.7" DSTN color screen, 4mb Internal flash with dos
> installed,
> 170mb PCMCIA III hd with Win95 installed (smallest win95 notebook
> available),
> trackpoint style pointing device, Soundblaster compatible audio, microphone,
> builtin 2400b modem. Expansion slots include 1 pico (Compact) flash slot, 2
> type II card slots or 1 type III card slot (currently containing HD), AC
> adapter,
> battery (uses standard sony camcorder batteries), zippered slipcase and
> carry
> case which holds the slipcase as well as the ac adapter, etc.
>
> This unit is an amazing piece of work.  with a similar size to the 100/200
> series
> but with processing power and battery life more along the lines of a
> notebook.
> ($400 + shipping)
>
> If you are interested in or have questions about any of the above let me
> know at
> driden@stlnet.com
>
> Thanks, and sorry if this post is inappropriate for the list, but thought
> the LX folks
> may be interested in these.  Even though im not actively using my 100lx at
> the moment
> (using a Libretto + PalmPilot) I still cant bring myself to sell it as i
> seem to gravitate
> back that way every other time ive strayed. :)
>
> BTW: Im also looking for an HP Omnibook 300/425/430. basically a 386 or 486
> notebook
> with a reflective screen that will run off AA batteries in an emergency, so
> would be interested
> in trades for these items. Just a thought.
>
> Dan Ridenhour
> driden@stlnet.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:25:10 +0100
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From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
Subject:      Re: Alarm software and password protection
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> I am using the HP200 to wake me up in the morning. However, I also want to
> use the password feature of the HP200. But when an alarm wakes up the
> password protected HP, it does not play the intended melody/alarm noise, but
> only beeps a little before requesting password. Is there any way around
> this? Then I could write a batch-file to be run at the desired time, first
> unlocking the HP, then running a wake-up noise program with appropriate
> requests for keypresses and with timed repetitions, and when satisfied that
> I have waken up sufficiently, it should lock the HP again.

why don`t you just disable the password before you go to sleep
and lock your bedroom, so nobody can read your memos or steal
the hplx ;) .

I use the hplx as an alarm clock, too, but with external power
supply, so it stays on all night long. But you are right, it would be
nice to make it work like described above.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:21:02 -0800
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Look for ks.com, keystuffer by Craig Payne by the .doc file.  I don't
remember where I found it.  Probably on the super site.  It lets you
enter key strokes into the keyboard buffer like you were at the machine
pushing buttons.  I use it to run backups and change the topcard with my
topcard rotator but first it has to enter my password to access the
machine.  It works fine.  Just use it from your appointment book to
unlock your palmtop right before your alarm goes off.

Dan Carrington


Reinhard Mueller wrote:
>
> > I am using the HP200 to wake me up in the morning. However, I also want to
> > use the password feature of the HP200. But when an alarm wakes up the
> > password protected HP, it does not play the intended melody/alarm noise, but
> > only beeps a little before requesting password. Is there any way around
> > this? Then I could write a batch-file to be run at the desired time, first
> > unlocking the HP, then running a wake-up noise program with appropriate
> > requests for keypresses and with timed repetitions, and when satisfied that
> > I have waken up sufficiently, it should lock the HP again.
>
> why don`t you just disable the password before you go to sleep
> and lock your bedroom, so nobody can read your memos or steal
> the hplx ;) .
>
> I use the hplx as an alarm clock, too, but with external power
> supply, so it stays on all night long. But you are right, it would be
> nice to make it work like described above.
>
> Reinhard
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:28:51 -0500
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              CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL
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From:         "Leonard W. Cavalier" <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....
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Excuse me if this response is too ol dor redundant, but I have been out of
town and am just catching up on e-mail.

First, to answer James' desperate plea, there is a mailing list for WinCE
devices, and here is some info to get subscribed:

Unsubscribe      <windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
Switch to Index  <index-windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
Switch to Digest <digest-windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
Get Help File    <windowsce-talk-help@lists.hpc.net>

My own opinions: I bought an HPC (Casiopeia A-11) a while ago, as I too was
enamored of some of the nicer features of the WinCE machines, but I found
the drawbacks outweighed the improvements, for me.  The backlight was a big
plus, but then it turned out to run the batteries down too fast, greatly
limiting its usefuleness.  The faster processor was an attraction, but then
all the WinCE stuff requries much more processing power and many things ran
no faster than on my non-upgraded 200LX.  The kicker - I was appalled to
discover that the Calendar program had no search feature!  The only way to
find a future (or past) appointment was to march through the daily view, day
-by-day, or maybe the weekly view, though it was slow to change to the next
week.  The montlhly view did not show any appointment text.  The 200LX, on
the other hand, can perform a search, and the monthly view is still without
equal!  I can only justify carrying a palmtop around everywhere if it can
adequately handle my organization functions, and the HPC was no just not
there.  I have the WinCE 2.0 upgrade from Casio, but after almost a year I
have not been motivated to install it and retry the HPC because the 200LX
has such superior PIM functions.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Gill ÝSMTP:jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET¨
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 2:48 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....
>
> I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
> case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
> note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
> for the CE machines.
>
> Steve D. wrote:
>
> > For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> > using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> > it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
> >
> > I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> > (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
> >
> > My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> > list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
> >
> > Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> > the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > ________________________________________________________
> > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet.  Shouldn't you?
> > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:18:49 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, David Bengtson wrote:
> I'm trying to run a program that uses Gnuplot for graphical output,
> and would like to get a working version. I now that version 3.7
> doesn't work in the Palmtop.
>
Perhaps you need to have an ANSI driver loaded in your CONFIG.SYS file.
In addition to the standard ANSI.SYS file found in a DOS 5.0 distribution,
there are a number of alternate ANSI drivers available on SUPER which have
the advantage of being loaded and unloaded as necessary.
I think this may be the answer, since I use Gnuchess, which requires an
ANSI driver.

Hope this helps; let me know if it does.
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grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:48:20 -0500
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Hi,

After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
consider:

Graffiti is not easy to master for those of us who have tremors (even
slight).
Software selection, while plentiful, is dedicated to a developing OS.
MS DOS 5.0 has a MUCH broader selection of software available as free or
shareware.
Battery life isn't great (about two week under daily use)
It does NOT suffice for a real computer on the road.
It access to your desktop files is limited to Word and Excel (only expenses
without additional software).
You ahve to pay more for any keyboard at all.
The on-board calculator is a basic MDAS.
You'll have to buy a spreadsheet for it and its functionality is limited.
No mass storage.
Proprietary sole-source modem limited to 14.4 kbps.

I could go on but, put simply, I have my PalmPilot III for sale on eBay and
just bought a SG6 2 meg HP-200LX.

Best,

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:12:04 -0800
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Happy to be Back!

Yes, I want to echo Bill's relief at returning to the HPLX.

I tried Psion Series 5 for two months. It's a beautiful machine with a lot of class and some really interesting software. I thought it would be a longterm relationship. Then one day I developed a twelfth need for a database to accompany eleven others, and began intensely missing my 200LX.

Other factors:

-battery life. Psion prides itself on great battery life. Nothing like the LX series. The Series 5 ate 4 or 5 sets of batteries, and the modem ANOTHER 4 or 5 sets, in the eight weeks I ran it. And it doesn't accommodate rechargeables!

-file organization. Nothing beats FILER. The native Psion file organization is byzantine at best. You can buy third-party solutions, but gee whiz, that adds up.

-ergonomics. The Psion stylus is a pain. It's a good one, but it's a pain. I just flip open the LX and it's ready to go. The vaunted Psion keyboard is actually really hard to use, and without BUDDY, documents get really cumbersome to write (capitalizing and punctuating on a tiny keyboard are hard, as we all know). The LX keyboard is just right for thumb-typing, which is 70-75% of what I do, in the library, grocery store, meetings, playground, etc. etc. And when I really need to, the LX lets me write and print off a longer document.

-database. Already covered that one...but I'll just add that there ain't nothing like the LX's configurable database.

-SPEED. And I haven't even gone double-speed.

-data storage and compression. The 4MB LX is miles ahead of the 8MB Psion Series 5. The latter is just downright careless in stashing data any old where and not making the most of limited real estate.

-number pad. None on the Series 5.

I went to the Psion for more elegant word processing and better internet connectivity. It's not worth it on either count. The email and Web programs are gorgeous but they eat batteries and aren't that fast with a 14.4 modem. I'm back to relying on my desktop for the Web and using AcCis 3.1 for email (I haven't yet figured out how to get AcCis 4 or WWW/LX running with the limited RAM on my machine. I'm going back to those projects now).

This is not meant to trash the Psion but to praise the LX. ...and I know others have written similar essays in a similar spirit. Just nothing like it.

Mina



        ----------
        From:  Bill SpragueÝSMTP:eugarps@IBM.NET¨
        Sent:  Thursday, March 11, 1999 10:48 AM
        To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
        Subject:  Happy to be Back!

        Hi,

        After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
        I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
        200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
        consider:

        Graffiti is not easy to master for those of us who have tremors (even
        slight).
        Software selection, while plentiful, is dedicated to a developing OS.
        MS DOS 5.0 has a MUCH broader selection of software available as free or
        shareware.
        Battery life isn't great (about two week under daily use)
        It does NOT suffice for a real computer on the road.
        It access to your desktop files is limited to Word and Excel (only expenses
        without additional software).
        You ahve to pay more for any keyboard at all.
        The on-board calculator is a basic MDAS.
        You'll have to buy a spreadsheet for it and its functionality is limited.
        No mass storage.
        Proprietary sole-source modem limited to 14.4 kbps.

        I could go on but, put simply, I have my PalmPilot III for sale on eBay and
        just bought a SG6 2 meg HP-200LX.

        Best,

        Bill

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:19:19 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Here's a question that was probably answered before I subscribed to this
list:

How safe is the file-based password protection on the HP? I'm trying to
imagine how easy it would be for someone who find my 200 to crack this baby
up. There's a lot of stuff (passwords, account numbers and such) in there I
wouldn't want them to find... You could say my 200 is my password ring. I
mean, there's so many places that requires a password, I need to put them
all in a easily accessible and portable place. So my 200 is it.

If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based
password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200?
Preferably System Manager compliant...

Thanks

Philippe :)

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:41:05 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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The answer to your first question..."How safe is the file-based password
protection on the HP".

There's a utility on the SUPER site that will allow someone to crack the
password. The intent is "to show that the file password protection offered by
the 200LX is not sufficient to protect highly sensitive data" and I think you'd
do well to keep that in mind.

I did likewise with my LX...using it to keep passwords for other systems...and
that password file was encrypted using the built-in function, but when my LX was
stolen, then first thing I did was to reset all my passwords. In cases like
that, the built-in encryption will just buy you a day or two from a random
finder who's capable and inquisitive, and maybe not even hours if you were an
intentional target.

There are other password and protection schemes available (Secure Disk or
something like that), but I haven't tried them...since I don't enter data on my
LX that would disasterously compromise myself or anyone.

- Longden





Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> on 03/11/99 11:19:19 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Password protection




Here's a question that was probably answered before I subscribed to this
list:

How safe is the file-based password protection on the HP? I'm trying to
imagine how easy it would be for someone who find my 200 to crack this baby
up. There's a lot of stuff (passwords, account numbers and such) in there I
wouldn't want them to find... You could say my 200 is my password ring. I
mean, there's so many places that requires a password, I need to put them
all in a easily accessible and portable place. So my 200 is it.

If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based
password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200?
Preferably System Manager compliant...

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:51:31 -0800
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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Has anyone set up their HPLX to access an NT network via dial-up?

My work network runs NT networking over TCP/IP, so I would think it should
be possible to set something up (perhaps with Microsoft's Lanman for DOS?),
but I'm not clueful enough to really know where to start.

I'd appreciate any suggestions y'all could offer.

        C.

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river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Been there. Done that. (Too!)

Bill Sprague wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
> I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
> 200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
> consider:
>
<snip of stuff I found to be true as well...>
>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:12:27 -0500
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              Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM>
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Has anyone else noticed the following phenomenon on their LX?

The most heavily used keys on my 200LX keyboard (A,E,C,D,B,U,ALT,MENU)
have, over time, developed a higher pitched snapping sound in addition
to the usual dull key click noise.  These keys don't even have to be
pressed all the way down to get the higher pitched snapping noise.
This noise has something to do with physical travel of the keys
and is not electronic.  My guess is that some membrane in the
keyboard is getting worn out.

The keyboard still works fine, but this is an older 200LX and I'm
wondering if the keyboard is degenerating and I'd better find
a source for a new one while that's still possible.


Thanks,
        Bill Schell
        bill@bell-labs.com

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:37:38 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Bob,

Mobile Planet doesn't admit they have the Apex Data product line anymore.
Any other ideas?

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: pcmcia modem


Nancy try the Apex Data 33.6 from Mobil Planet.  About 138ma.  Not X-jack
but flat type connector.  Better if used in laptop too so you can use both
type II card slots at the same time.    =Bob=

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:42:27 -0500
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Anand.

Try www.eBay.com .  I just bought one there and might be stuck this three
unless someone else bids. d8¬).  There was one for sale there by a guy in
Hong Kong just a day or so ago.

Bill

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From: slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 11:48 PM
Subject: Busted 200LX, looking for replacement


>I had dropped my HP200LX in December and had a problem with some keys after
>that. The HP service centre in Hong Kong replaced the keyboard and in the
>process discovered some white deposits on the logic board. They recommended
>that I replace the logic board, too. I chose not to have the logic board
>replaced.
>
>I had several intermittent cases of data corruption since then. Sometimes I
>would see files with strange names of a few hundred megabytes in size!
>Couldn't figure out why. The LX finally gave up the ghost last week and HP
>service centre said that I have to replace the logic board and a phenomenal
>cost. I rejected the offer. When I got the machine back I saw that the
>warranty seal put by HP the last time they repaired my unit was still
>intact.From the intact condition of the warranty seal  I strongly suspect
>that they did not even bother to open the unit to check what was wrong this
>time.
>
>While I am thoroughly disappointed with the HP service I am still looking
>for a replacement 200LX. I studied various other options (CE machines, Palm
>Pilot, etc) but none could really be a replacement for what I really need.
>I looked far and wide but I could not find the 200LX with any dealer in
>Hong Kong.
>
>Is there any place where I can get it on mail order? I know that the
>palmtoppaper site sells upgraded equipment with double speed and additional
>RAM and they have a very good reputation among users. However, I would
>prefer to buy a HP200LX 4 MB model with HP warranty (being in Hong Kong I
>feel more comfortable with the HP warranty than one based in the US, unless
>someone can convince me otherwise!)
>
>So, the question is - where can I buy a replacement unit?
>
>many thanks
>
>Anand Rao.
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:42:57 GMT
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:27:24 +0000, Bennett Todd wrote:

>Well, hrm. A grounding strap is just the sort of fashion statement I =
need to
>push my image right over the top, so maybe I oughta start wearing one at=
 all
>times, but meanwhile, what I've noticed is that walking over the wool =
carpet
>to my desk is where I build up the zap, I don't collect much while I'm =
just
>sitting here resting. So I've gotten in the habit of touching some =
exposed
>metal first thing when I get to the desk. Often the exposed metal is =
when I'm
>pulling out my LX to plug it into the AC adaptor, I touch the exposed =
metal of
>the adaptor plug before I slip it into the LX.

You can buy earthing mats to place your desk and chair on. They are made =
of
slightly conductive rubber, and are connected to ground to dissipate any
static before you actually touch any sensitive equipment at the desk. =
Could
be worth a try.

--=20
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Comments: To: Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt>

Antonio Queiroz Menezes writes:
> Due, probably, to a change in the POP's software my ISP stopped
> talking with WWW/LX

Just a note that my limited understanding of WWW/LX's scripting
capabilities is that there is not much (if anything) that DOSPPP can
do that WWW/LX can't.

> I was thinking of using PNR but I'm almost illiterate
> regarding the LXTCP and DOS PPP configurations.
> Would anyone be kind enough to help me with the configuration
> with a step by step guide <G>

Ted Heise has posted his setup to this list a number of times - you can
search the archives for it.

If you post the info that your ISP sent you, then I'm sure both WWW/LX
and LXTCP/PNR experts will be able to help you.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:29:56 -0800
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Well, people, here's an alternative: stealth!

Rename that file containing sensitive information to something like
"filer.exm" or "command.com". If they ever think about looking inside it, it
will look just like garbage -- like any other executable. Bottom line, they
will have to suspect that such a file exist on the palmtop, then try to open
every executable to find which one is the password protected file, then try
to crack the password.

Just more of a deterrent, that's all...

Philippe :)


----- Original Message -----
From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Password protection


>The answer to your first question..."How safe is the file-based password
>protection on the HP".
>
>There's a utility on the SUPER site that will allow someone to crack the
>password. The intent is "to show that the file password protection offered
by
>the 200LX is not sufficient to protect highly sensitive data" and I think
you'd
>do well to keep that in mind.
>
>I did likewise with my LX...using it to keep passwords for other
systems...and
>that password file was encrypted using the built-in function, but when my
LX was
>stolen, then first thing I did was to reset all my passwords. In cases like
>that, the built-in encryption will just buy you a day or two from a random
>finder who's capable and inquisitive, and maybe not even hours if you were
an
>intentional target.
>
>There are other password and protection schemes available (Secure Disk or
>something like that), but I haven't tried them...since I don't enter data
on my
>LX that would disasterously compromise myself or anyone.
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> on 03/11/99 11:19:19 AM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
respond
>      to Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
>
>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
>Subject:  Password protection
>
>
>
>
>Here's a question that was probably answered before I subscribed to this
>list:
>
>How safe is the file-based password protection on the HP? I'm trying to
>imagine how easy it would be for someone who find my 200 to crack this baby
>up. There's a lot of stuff (passwords, account numbers and such) in there I
>wouldn't want them to find... You could say my 200 is my password ring. I
>mean, there's so many places that requires a password, I need to put them
>all in a easily accessible and portable place. So my 200 is it.
>
>If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based
>password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200?
>Preferably System Manager compliant...
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:06:31 -0500
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
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I'm aware of two technologies that produce  solid-state" white light.  The
first combines a blue LED with what I'll call a phosphor for lack of a
better term (which exists, I just don't recall it offhand).  When you light
the blue LED, the phosphor reacts to the short wavelengths and glows white.
 This is not unlike a fluorescent tube; the tube itself actually puts out
UV, and the phosphor coating on the tube is what reacts and provides the
visible light.

A lot of research has been going on lately in "organic light emitting
devices" or OLEDs.  A blue emitter has been the holy grail (just like LEDs)
but one has been found.  Researchers can now produce RGB triads and
full-color displays.

Either one of these could be the answer, depending on their
characteristics.  Neither are available as a commercial backlight at this
point, to my knowledge.  But both have intriguing possibilities!

Exciting times...

Rick,
who is looking forward to hearing more on what you came across, Stefan.

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On 3/11/99, at 12:25 PM, Stefan Peichl wrote:

>> Another option is LED panels, but there again you have the power issue.
A
>> 16x2 LCD display I'm using for a development project is LED backlit, and
>> the manufacturer quites *500* mA!
>
>The German newspaper "FAZ" had a few month ago an article on
>it's Technical Page reporting about a breaktrough in LED
>manufacturing. If I remember right, it is now possible to
>produce very low power white light LEDs. The first application
>is a credit card torch powered with a button cell lasting for
>*TEN* years. I will go to the library, dig out the article and
>translate the relevant parts for you. Be patient. Maybe this
>our backlight solution.
>
>Regards
>Stefan
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
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From very recent personal experience, I'd guess contacts first.  It *could*
be the flat ribbon connector where it attaches to the main board, but more
likely it's the connector behind the display.  Try pushing or squeezing
gently on the left side of the screen, without moving it otherwise... does
*that* make the flicker go away?  If so, it's most likely the display
connector.  On mine, sticky "gunk" from the pressure pad behind it had
migrated onto the contacts.  Pulling it all apart and cleaning things up
cured the problem.

Be advised that extracting the display is a bit tricky and somewhat
delicate.  But if I can do it -- I'm a maladroit -- you can too, with care.
 I don't have the URLs handy, but if you do an Altavista search on HP
DISPLAY you will most likely turn up one of two Web sites I've seen that
have detailed disassembly instructions, one complete with photos.

Good luck,
Rick

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On 3/11/99, at 10:45 AM, -goe- wrote:

>I have some flicker on the screen of my 200LX sometimes. When I move the
screen
>back and forth, it works ok. What could be the problem?
>
>1) contacts (would be cleanable)
>
>2) cable? (worst scenario)
>
>any suggestions?
>
> TIA
>-goe-
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:42:25 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

Ý...¨
> There are other password and protection schemes available (Secure Disk or
> something like that), but I haven't tried them...since I don't enter data on my
> LX that would disasterously compromise myself or anyone.

I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it asks
you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I don't
think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway. This
obviously only applies to files on the built-in RAM drive and will do
nothing to protect files on a flashcard.


Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:47:37 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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For those, interested in technical background about the new
low power LEDs, here is the URL of the inventors of this new
technology:

http://www.iap.fhg.de/public/ag33/ledhome.html

fhg stands for "Fraunhofer Gesellschaft", which is a very
famous german science foundation. AFAIK, mass production of
this new generation LEDs already begun. I'll make further
enquires and let you know about the results.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:07:06 -0500
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Mack,

I do embedded systems design on both the hardware and software side, and I
have a pretty complete library of data books, all of Maxim's stuff
included.  What I meant by my comment was that I didn't have the databook
where I was while writing that particular email, or I'd have taken a quick
peek.  I'm familiar with Maxim's site, but it wouldn't have been worth
slogging through a connection to look, only being idle curiosity at that
point.

Besides, at the location I wrote that, it's email-only; no Web browsing.
(Some companies are still kicking and screaming about being dragged into
the 20th century, ya know... after working with these folks for over five
years now, I'm *still* the only person with a PIM, palmtop, or anything
similar.  Everybody else is still taking meeting notes on legal pads and
jotting notes in a Day Timer.  <Laughing>)

Thanks for the additional input, your comments about the transistors make
sense.  Given that all the caps look to be tantalum or ceramics, I agree it
would be unlikely for a capacitor to be bad.  OTOH, I'm pretty cautious
about static issues -- plus the chip is in-circuit which improves the
robustness mightily -- so it's a stretch for me to imagine the chip going,
either.  But I guess we'll see... silicon doesn't lie!

Thanks again,
Rick,
who is still casting about to see if he can find a used 100LX... everybody
seems to be trafficking in 200s these days.

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On 3/11/99, at 3:37 PM, Mack Baggette wrote:

>> I presume you're referring to the MAX560, which is an RS232 transceiver
but
>> does have an on-board charge pump so it can run off of 3.3 volts; that's
>> the Maxim IC nearest the RS232 connector.  I'm trying to remember if it
has
>> a shutdown function -- I don't have my Maxim handy at the moment -- but
I
>> believe it does.  Could be a problem with the drive to the shutdown pin,
or
>> one of the capacitors in the charge pump, or the IC itself.  It also
looks
>> like they have a number of outboard transistors sprinkled all around the
>> serial port, and any one of those could have gone South.  Problem is,
being
>> a multi-layer board I can't visually trace it to work out the circuit.
And
>> I don't look forward to "shotgunning" surface-mount components!  But it
may
>> come to that.  <Sigh>
>
>I believe the datasheet is available on the web also.  That is the chip
>that I am talking about.  It is unlikely for the cap to go bad, so I
>would assume the chip first.  I believe most of the transistors are for
>switching between IR and regular Serial.
>
>Cheers,
>Mack

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:58:43 -0500
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              Clark Gaylord <gaylord@GAYLORD.ASYNC.VT.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: GnuPlot on 200LX?
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> I am running the OS/2 port at work.  Thought it would
> solve some problems we have here.  It didn't, so haven't
> used it too much.
>
> For information, try
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/gnuplot_info.html
> and
> ftp://ftp.dartmouth.edu/pub/gnuplot

The canonical distribution in the US for gnuplot 3.7 is
ftp.gnuplot.vt.edu.

It is updated nightly at this time, though I am presently (i.e.,
in another xterm window ;-) trying to make it a *real* mirror of
the real source (which is in Iceland, I believe).

Clark

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:20:24 -0700
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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As far as file encryption for security, my I suggest PGPDOS, located at
www.pgp.org

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 03:34:00 +0000
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              Gil Reis <gilreis@ESOTERICA.PT>
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I everyone
I have an external floppy disk drive (pcmcia) from a Compaq aero 486/sx
can i connected it to my hp 200lx??
how? do i need any special software?
thanks

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:29:52 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> does anyone have the WYSIWYG-Addon for 1-2-3 running on
> the x00LX?
>
Hi.

I considered it before.  However, it takes something like 2 MB of storage;
a lot more than I had to spare, considering the benefit would be minimal
for me.  In addition, I did try running WYSIWYG on the desktop, and it is
really best suited for a mouse.  I decided to run Excel 2.1 under Win 3.0
instead.  I don't even know if WYSIWYG would work, although I suspect it
would, since other add-ins from my desktop vesion of 123 r2.4 work fine.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:39:46 +0800
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(Sadly) Been there, done that (three!) Omnigo100, PalmPilot, HP620LX. Why don't
I ever learn!? Just bought a 32MB DS HP200LX, works a treat and that outlay
keeps me *immunised* from venturing to anything (PalmV, etc) for a while ....

>Been there. Done that. (Too!)
>Bill Sprague wrote:
>> Hi,
>> After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
>> I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
>> 200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
>> consider:
<snip>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:31:13 +0000
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Happy to be Back!
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>After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
>I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
>200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
>consider:

Thanks for posting this review.  I now have the choice in the next few
weeks of buying my first 200LX with my tax refund.  I have been using a
95LX for the past two months, and am now ready to make the leap.  However,
I have also been attracted by the Palmpilot III, and am interested in your
observations.

>Graffiti is not easy to master for those of us who have tremors (even
>slight).

Excellent.  Since I have had two successive neck surgeries over the past
four years, I've found that my handwriting has deteoriated due to the
increased tremors in my hands.  This would be a sharply limiting factor to
the Palmpilot.

Software selection, while plentiful, is dedicated to a developing OS.
>MS DOS 5.0 has a MUCH broader selection of software available as free or
>shareware.

Indeed.  And is the price of the software much higher, in that much of it
is commercial software?

>Battery life isn't great (about two week under daily use)

This would also be a sharply limiting use.  I use the 95LX quite a lot, but
am getting a month's use on 2 AA batteries.

>It does NOT suffice for a real computer on the road.

This would not be satisfactory.  Although I don't travel extensively, I do
use the Lotus 123 application on the 95LX quite a lot.  I'm one of those
who's always preferred 123 to the Microsoft alternatives.  Giving it up
would not be good, and I'd been concerned about this lack in the Palmpilot.

>I could go on but, put simply, I have my PalmPilot III for sale on eBay and
>just bought a SG6 2 meg HP-200LX.

Chuckle.  It sounds as if this reinforces my conclusions.  Just for
interests sake, though, what were the other compelling reasons that lead
you to reject the Palmpilot?

Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:40:53 -0600
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jason C H Yap <Jason_YAP@MOH.GOV.SG>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Happy to be Back!


>(Sadly) Been there, done that (three!) Omnigo100, PalmPilot, HP620LX. Why
don't
>I ever learn!? Just bought a 32MB DS HP200LX, works a treat and that outlay
>keeps me *immunised* from venturing to anything (PalmV, etc) for a while
....

Ive learned on that one,  Now I always keep my trusty 100lx + 4mb Flash +
modem setup
handy.  I stray from time to time (Newton 110, Omnigo 100, Palm Pilot, Nec
MP400, etc)
but I always have my 100 in the drawer ready to return to when the new wears
thin and
I need to get some work done. <g>   Im currently on one of my HP breaks
using a combination
of a Libretto and a PalmPilot and I'll have to admit the combination doesnt
work bad for
my needs, but Im still holdin onto my 100lx <g>

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>>Been there. Done that. (Too!)
>>Bill Sprague wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
>>> I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
>>> 200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
>>> consider:
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:09:49 -0800
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I have the following remaining for sale:

HP200LX dbl speed 5 meg snSG607... (small crack back right corner of top,
repaired with PVC pipe
cement over a year ago, no sign of re-appearing, not very noticeable, no
missing pixels, nothing else wrong with machine), with Manuals - $275
Leather Wallet (well used but functional) - free with 'LX
2 X Serial Cables - $20 ea
AC/Adapter F1011A - $25
WWW/LX software - $60
Software Carousel v. 7X - $60
1-2-3 Pocket Reference - ?
Microref DOS v.5 - ?
Microsoft MS DOS 5.0 Reference - ?
WordPerfect 5.1 diskettes only - $20
WordPerfect 5.1 Instant Reference - ?
Microsoft Word 5.5 with Manuals - $20
MS Excel 2.1 original disks with Quick Start - $25
       (runs with or without Windows 3.0, also some third party books, free
with program + shipping)
American Heritage Dictionary for DOS (some original disks, some not,
original box, etc.) - $25
Various WordPerfect 3rd party books - ?
Stacker 4.0 with Manuals - $10

All US$, + shipping

Please reply offline.


tia,

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:23:00 -0500
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Well, first, it's important to say that YMMV with respect to everything
in a domain where one interacts so directly with their computer
equipment. That said, I have a few words about my `excursion' to the
world of the Palm and back.

So, that said, first is entering data. I have friends who claim to be
able to input to their Palms `faster than with a keyboard'. In every
actual test, so far, their speed is a little less than 1/2 my speed
typing on my HP200. I actually am known as pretty facile with my fingers
and even after a few weeks of practice, my entry rate on my Palm III was
about 1/2 my rate typing on my 200Lx, and (thereby) more like a 1/4 of
my normal typing speed.

In my application I found the Palm files `small'. I keep a PERL manual
on my 200Lx without a problem (248k). I keep a list of random city
sizes and lat/long (1.07mg). I keep a few years of appointments (600k)
and lots of other junk. On the HP200 size is no problem as PCMCIA makes
just about anything up to 100s of Mb quite reasonable.

I find communicating between my bigger machines and my HP200 much easier
(via PCMCIA) than with my Palm. When I move my 40mb PCMCIA card I can
access it directly, not through some upload/download serial link that
`runs' very slowly in comparison.

Most important to me, the files I use on my big machines are *THE SAME*
as the files I use on the HP200. I don't have to translate them thru
anything. Text files, Lotus/Excel files, ... all just move back and
forth, pretty much as they are, without requiring any translations in
or out. I found that on the Palm, every time I wanted to do anything
I had to translate my data thru some (often quite expensive) piece
of software into some `Palm internal' form where I couldn't directly
manipulate it.

Perhaps I should say that when I got my Libretto, I expected to drop my
HP200 in favor of the Palm. It didn't turn out that way. I like by
Libretto a lot, but find the HP200 a much better companion for the
Libretto (along with CPACK, of course) than the Palm is for the
Libretto.

I gave my Palm to a friend. I did so with considerable trepidation. My
friend is working on a system to deliver a particular kind of financial
information, along with some rather substantial calculations. I know
that by giving him my palm (a) I saved him $400 or so, as he would have
bought one otherwise; but (b) I probably ruined his product, as it will
turn out to be a piece of junk on this very poor platform, and now
I will be at fault.

As I said at the outset, though, YMMV.

David Ball wrote:
>
> >After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
> >I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
> >200LX.  I would advise anyone considering the change to the PalmPilot to
> >consider:
>
> Thanks for posting this review.  I now have the choice in the next few
> weeks of buying my first 200LX with my tax refund.  I have been using a
> 95LX for the past two months, and am now ready to make the leap.  However,
> I have also been attracted by the Palmpilot III, and am interested in your
> observations.
>
> >Graffiti is not easy to master for those of us who have tremors (even
> >slight).
>
> Excellent.  Since I have had two successive neck surgeries over the past
> four years, I've found that my handwriting has deteoriated due to the
> increased tremors in my hands.  This would be a sharply limiting factor to
> the Palmpilot.
>
> Software selection, while plentiful, is dedicated to a developing OS.
> >MS DOS 5.0 has a MUCH broader selection of software available as free or
> >shareware.
>
> Indeed.  And is the price of the software much higher, in that much of it
> is commercial software?
>
> >Battery life isn't great (about two week under daily use)
>
> This would also be a sharply limiting use.  I use the 95LX quite a lot, but
> am getting a month's use on 2 AA batteries.
>
> >It does NOT suffice for a real computer on the road.
>
> This would not be satisfactory.  Although I don't travel extensively, I do
> use the Lotus 123 application on the 95LX quite a lot.  I'm one of those
> who's always preferred 123 to the Microsoft alternatives.  Giving it up
> would not be good, and I'd been concerned about this lack in the Palmpilot.
>
> >I could go on but, put simply, I have my PalmPilot III for sale on eBay and
> >just bought a SG6 2 meg HP-200LX.
>
> Chuckle.  It sounds as if this reinforces my conclusions.  Just for
> interests sake, though, what were the other compelling reasons that lead
> you to reject the Palmpilot?
>
> Regards,
>
> David Ball
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:53:40 -0800
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Ienjoyed reading your list so much,but,being such a junky myself,I just
can't bring myself to buy yet more computers             Neill
At 03:55 PM 3/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I being a bit of a gadget junkie have accumulated quite a few handhelds
>and related devices that are not seeing use and could use a good home,
>so i have the following items for sale:
>
>HP 95lx (512k ram, belt clip case, Connection kit (cable+software))
>In overall good condition.  The spring on the latch which holds the lid shut
>is
>a little weak from use.  ($85 + Shipping)
>
>Newton OMP 100 (640k ram, OS 1.3, Connection cable, Modem, etc)
>Good condition, includes connection cable, slipcase, 2400b external modem,
>software includes: Grafitti (and other sofware from Newton Enhancement pak),
>Money business forms, TapWorks, Pocket Quicken.  ($100 + Shipping)
>
>HP Omnigo 100 (1mb ram, GEOS based PDA)
>Geos based pda, note taker, spreadsheet, etc. Grafitti handwriting
>recognition,
>and/or fully keyboard used for input.  In near mint condition (has about
>4hrs use)
>with original packaging, manuals, etc. ($100 + Shipping)
>
>Zenith Mini-sport (2mb RAM model)
>A piece of history, one of the first sub notebooks, weighing in at about
>5+lbs
>with a 640x200 backlit CGA screen, 80C88 processor, 2mb of ram for use
>as main memory and/or a ram disk, and DOS in rom.  This unit is fitted with
>a 2" 720k disk drive for data storage and includes a 10pak of 2" floppy
>disks,
>the machine, AC Adapter / Charger, a good battery, and original Zenith
>minisport carrying case.  New this unit cost over 2k + $75 for the case, but
>since its been in my closet for at least a few years <g> Im selling it at
>$50 + shipping.
>
>Compaq SLT/286
>1mb RAM, 40mb HD, 2400b Modem, 286 processor, 1.44mb 3.5" floppy
>drive, Monochrome VGA paper white display.  Comes with DOS 5 installed,
>(although it should run Win 3.0), AC Adapter/Charger, and a brand new
>battery (purchased battery new for $117 for use by a relative who later
>purchased a newer machine, has less than 5hrs use on the battery).
>($100 + shipping)
>
>IBM PC-110 (486-33 palmtop)
>2/3 the size of a VHS video tape, this is quite a powerhouse that I have
>mixed
>feelings about selling but since ive upgraded to a libretto it has to go.
>Specs:
>486/33, 8mb RAM, 4.7" DSTN color screen, 4mb Internal flash with dos
>installed,
>170mb PCMCIA III hd with Win95 installed (smallest win95 notebook
>available),
>trackpoint style pointing device, Soundblaster compatible audio, microphone,
>builtin 2400b modem. Expansion slots include 1 pico (Compact) flash slot, 2
>type II card slots or 1 type III card slot (currently containing HD), AC
>adapter,
>battery (uses standard sony camcorder batteries), zippered slipcase and
>carry
>case which holds the slipcase as well as the ac adapter, etc.
>
>This unit is an amazing piece of work.  with a similar size to the 100/200
>series
>but with processing power and battery life more along the lines of a
>notebook.
>($400 + shipping)
>
>If you are interested in or have questions about any of the above let me
>know at
>driden@stlnet.com
>
>Thanks, and sorry if this post is inappropriate for the list, but thought
>the LX folks
>may be interested in these.  Even though im not actively using my 100lx at
>the moment
>(using a Libretto + PalmPilot) I still cant bring myself to sell it as i
>seem to gravitate
>back that way every other time ive strayed. :)
>
>BTW: Im also looking for an HP Omnibook 300/425/430. basically a 386 or 486
>notebook
>with a reflective screen that will run off AA batteries in an emergency, so
>would be interested
>in trades for these items. Just a thought.
>
>
>Dan Ridenhour
>driden@stlnet.com
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:55:03 +0000
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Jorgen, thanks for your assistance. I would also like to give HP the
benefit of doubt, but then I saw that the warranty seal had the same old
job number as what they put in December and not the new one. Therefore the
strong suspicion that the unit was not opened at all.

Further, I can not see how surface impurities on the logic board warrant
replacement of the board.

Finally, I posted a follow-up on how the trick suggested by an expert
(pressing the front right corner) corrected the keyboard connector problem
and the unit can now turn on. Therefore, in all likelihood, it was a
problem caused when HP replaced the keyboard in December.

I have been using various HP products from the HP 3000 days and have an
excellent opinion of the company. However, some outposts can fall out of
line in a few cases as was apparently the case here.

I guess if Thaddeus were closer to my neck of the woods I would have no
hesitation going for their products.

Thanks for your help again and best regards

\Anand Rao.

At 06:49 PM 11-03-1999 Thursday +0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> I had several intermittent cases of data corruption since then. Sometimes I
>> would see files with strange names of a few hundred megabytes in size!
>> Couldn't figure out why. The LX finally gave up the ghost last week and HP
>> service centre said that I have to replace the logic board and a phenomenal
>> cost. I rejected the offer. When I got the machine back I saw that the
>> warranty seal put by HP the last time they repaired my unit was still
>> intact.From the intact condition of the warranty seal  I strongly suspect
>> that they did not even bother to open the unit to check what was wrong this
>> time.
>
>For your information- when HP opens a faulty unit and repair or take a
>look at it as in your case- the warranty seal is replaced with a new
>one. So they have checked it- that's for sure.
>>
>> While I am thoroughly disappointed with the HP service I am still looking
>> for a replacement 200LX. I studied various other options (CE machines, Palm
>> Pilot, etc) but none could really be a replacement for what I really need.
>> I looked far and wide but I could not find the 200LX with any dealer in
>> Hong Kong.
>
>So why are you so disappointed at HP's service? They told you earlier
>that you should replace the board in order to avoid problems. You
>decided not to, so it's your own fault- right?
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:13:38 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      ABCDEMO problem

I have started using 1300mah Nimh batteries over the last couple of weeks
and I thought I would try out ABC to see how it would handle charging them.
So a week and a half ago I set ABC to Autotune my batteries and came up with
the following settings:
Start charging at 2.50 V
Stop fast charging at 2.90V
Stall time 1.23Hr
Total charge time 10.50Hr
Trickle Charge 0.0

This morning for the first time the voltage indicator showed that the battery
voltage was 2.48V and true to the job description, when I got to work and
plugged in my palmtop, it started charging. After about 30 mins, I noticed
that the screen was very faint (to be expected) but pressing ON + had no effect
In fact pressing ANY key had no effect except for CTRL LSHIFT ON. This of
course stopped the charge cycle which I now have restarted manually. I have
a 30Mb flash disk installed. Could it be that the drain of the flash card and
very low batteries is too much for the palmtop? What is a good starting
voltage for these batteries? I would welcome any suggestions before I buy
the software. (Are you reading this Avi ? :-)



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slim1005 writes:
> I would prefer to buy a HP200LX 4 MB model with HP warranty (being in Hong Kong I
> feel more comfortable with the HP warranty than one based in the US, unless
> someone can convince me otherwise!)
>

I have an HP 4Mb model bought in Israel. Twice I had to return it for repair/
replacement under warranty and each time I had to wait at least 3 weeks
until they shipped them from the States.... If HP here had bought them from
Thaddeus I would possibly have had them replaced faster!


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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:43:56 +0100
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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> From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Password Protection
> Date: 12. mars 1999 04:20
>
> As far as file encryption for security, my I suggest PGPDOS, located at
> www.pgp.org
>
Sorry - but my DNS points me to Pecan Grove Project at that URL!!!

Cheers from
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:47:01 -0800
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Antonio,

 > Due, probably, to a change in the POP's software my ISP stopped
 > talking with WWW/LX (it doesn't complete the IPCP negociation). I
 > discovered that Nettamer talks with my ISP (go figure why
 > WWW/LX doesn=B4t and Nettamer does). But I don't like very much
 > the Nettamer handling and user interface and while I wait for an
 > answer from my ISP (or a pass of magic from Avi and his team or
 > from Andreas) I was thinking of using PNR but I'm almost illiterate

What exactly did you ask your ISP? can you ask them please
if they recently got Cisco routers? A suspicion, not
complete facts yet... :)

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:47:12 -0800
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Owen,

 > ??? Looked at D&A webpage and ftp site and counldn't find voltlx. The ftp
 > voltlx directory is empty also.

What did you expect there? The actual program? Hmmm... it
is a commercial product which we sell. Check out the link
to "OUR PRODUCT". You will find VOLT/LX there, you'll also
find its price. It is not shareware, sorry!

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:47:05 -0800
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Stan,

 > ABC/LX is a program to enable and disable charging in order to
 > automate the charging of NiCd of NiMH batteries.  It would not
 > be much use with alkalines.  In fact, ABC complains if you
 > have alkalines in there.

Well, it complains because it is designed to manage
automatically the _charging_ of batteries and it knows it
cannot let Alkalines charge, so it complains. It is more of
a warning: Hey, you have the wrong type Batteries! Did you
mean that? Hey! Hey!!! :)

I think ABC/LX is actually quite useful even with
alkalines and Lithiums. Here is the reason:

The two important issues with battery depletion is to know
how much charge is left in them and what is the voltage. We
cannot tell you the first, but we can give you an
approximation! Specifically, the User-Timer tells you
how much time the computer has been used.

You can also force the battery type to Rechargeable via the
SETUP application (BUT PLEASE DON'T TRY TO CHARGE!!! YOU
CAN CAUSE HORRIBLE DAMAGES TO THE MACHINE, and WORSE: TO
YOURSEFL!!!) When ABC/LX reads the indication of
RECHARGEABLE, it will also use the other timer: The
ON-BATTERY-TIMER. This timer counts the time when the
machine is on, and no adapter is plugged in, i.e. the
BATTERY is being used. A good indicator for depletion.

AGAIN, Let me WARN YOU!!! If you try to charge a
NON-RECHARGEABLE battery like alkalines or Lithiums, you
are exposing yourself to A HUGE POTENTIAL DANGER! Lithiums
being charged respond with a fantastic explosion! If the
battry is wrapped with a palmtop, you'll have a hard time
fiding pieces of the palmtop larger than about 4cm.!!!
Alkalines can also explode quite violently and take a
palmtop! But think - If you are anywhere near one of those
items, you will most likely sustain damage too!

SOoooooooo!!!! DO NOT CHARGE ALKALINES. DO NOT CHARGE
LITHIUMS.

So that tells you how much you have used the battery and it
gives you a sense of what more it might have. This is not
bullet proof! The battery can be depleted faster or slower
depending on how much work you do, and the type of work you
do. But it is better than nothing! A lot better...

Combined with the Voltage indication, you get an even
better sense of how much more service you can get out of
the battery.

For example: The Lithiums, while lasting anywhere from 40
to 70 hours, exhibit a very sharp voltage decline towards
the end of their useful service life in the palmtop. At
that time, their voltage drops from say 2.40V to 2.32V is
maybe 30 minutes!!! Extremely fast, and you can get
caught!!!

ABC/LX can help to give you some margin of warning by
setting the voltage to 2.50V so the voltage indicator will
reverse at that point - when you reach 2.50V...

The on-battery timer will give you a fair indication how
much more time you have.

 > There is another program by D&A Software called VOLT/LX which
 > is exactly what you want.  It has the monitoring features of
 > ABC/LX, but not the charging stuff.  Check out the web site at
 > www.dasoft.com.

Yes, VOLT/LX is the "little cousin" of ABC/LX - it has a
subset of the functionality. If you use alkalines
exclusively, that is your ticket!

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:06:01 +1100
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Hello Claud

OK, I would like to buy:

> HP200LX dbl speed 5 meg snSG607... $275
> 1 X Serial Cable - $20
> AC/Adapter F1011A - $25
> Microsoft Word 5.5 with Manuals - $20

Let me know the details of how to pay.

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hi,

is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in applications i
do not use from the system manager`s menu, to make place for
more applications? I know, I could use HDM to install more
programs, but i don`t like switching between a menu of exm and
dos programs.

thanks,
Reinhard

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 03:45:29 -0800
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:29:56 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> =
wrote:

> Well, people, here's an alternative: stealth!
>
> Rename that file containing sensitive information to something like
> "filer.exm" or "command.com". If they ever think about looking inside =
it, it
> will look just like garbage -- like any other executable. Bottom line, =
they
> will have to suspect that such a file exist on the palmtop, then try to =
open
> every executable to find which one is the password protected file, then =
try
> to crack the password.
>
> Just more of a deterrent, that's all...
>
> Philippe :)

This is a great idea. How in the hell did you come up with?


Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:28:10 +0000
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I'll add my .02 to the security discussion.

For me, there are two security issues:
a. Data inherit to the HPLX on the C: drive
b. Data on PCMCIA disks

I believe that if you secure the HPLX with a password, then you will
be safe with regard to data on the c: drive, unless the unit is on
when you lose / have it stolen. This is a risk that I mitigate simply
by turning it off whenever I am not using it. Helps for battery life
too <g>. I think this is an acceptable level of risk (for me) and
provide no additional security for my c: drive.

As far as the PCMCIA, I use Secure Device to make a secure drive on the
PCMCIA card. I even automatically login with a batch file that resides
on my c: drive. One (painful) lesson learned... keep your login
password written down somewhere secure, and not on you HLPX... I
trashed my c: drive, lost my passcode, and lost the data. Fortunately,
i backup my drive monthly. Unfortunately, I had started to do the
backup of the secured file vice the unencrypted data, which is fine -
as long as you remember the password. It gave me yet another lesson in
appreciation of regular, RECOVERABLE backups!

I am interested in the mentioned PGP URL (www.pgp.org) and will look
into that. I am happy with Secure Device in that I noted no particular
performance problem.

Again, security is always a trade off of security versus use - to make
it utterly secure, make it unusable?

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:51:45 +0100
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              Gert Thomasen <Gert.Thomasen@ETSI.FR>
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This is exactly why I want to use this, and not the file-encrypting facility
of application manager. The power-on password feature, while not
sufficiently strong to withstand a long-term government attack, is very good
at preventing occasional thieves from getting access to all our
logins/account information/pin-codes etc. before we even notice that they
have been stolen. Honestly, the AM password feature is just too weak, in
case a computer nerd gets access to my HP. HPCRACK is easy to find on the
net, even for someone who doesn't know what to look for.

But laziness cause me to consider automation to be the true value of the
HP200. Therefore I dislike that I have to manually turn the password feature
off before going to bed (relying on HPALARM to get me up again), and when up
again to manually turn the password feature on before slipping the HP200
into my backpack. So I am asking again if someone has any idea of how to
turn the power-on password protection on and off from a program. Keystuff
will NOT do it, because it can not hold down the "ON" key while striking the
"ENTER" key, and the password feature seems to block any programs from
running until the password has been entered (incl. keystuff).

Best regards, Gert Thomasen, g.thomasen@ieee.org

----
Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

Ý...¨

I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it asks
you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I don't
think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway.

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David

<snip>

>Excellent.  Since I have had two successive neck surgeries over the past
>four years, I've found that my handwriting has deteoriated due to the
>increased tremors in my hands.  This would be a sharply limiting factor to
>the Palmpilot.

Mine came from being hit by a car when I was 10 years old.  I landed on my
head (okay, okay...) and sustained neck injuries which in later years
manifested themselves as a tremor.  They were and still are not severe
enough to keep me from flying airplanes and gliders but are severe enough to
keep me from 'flying' on the PalmPilot.

The WriteRight product from Concept Kitchen helped a bit but was still
unsatisfactory.  The face of the PalmPilot is very slick and tremors in the
hand and fingers translate to odd squiggles that the Graffiti software
translates erroneouslly or can't translate at all.  For example, an intended
'e' might come out as an 's' or an 'a' come out as an 'm'.  This lead to
some pretty creative spelling.  Sounds easy but if I didn't pay really close
attention to what I was writing, my notes could be unintelligible for later
upload into Word.  For taking meeting notes it was a real challange to
concentrate well enough on the meeting to take good notes and to concentrate
well enough on my Graffiti to make them intelligible.


<snip>

The above is the frustration that finally cause me to auction off the P III.
I knew I wanted the flexibility the HP 200LX offered so I went shopping and
found a couple on eBay that I can send off to Hal's Pals for upgrade.

Best,

Bill

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:19:30 +0100
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Dan, can I ask you to provide me the keystuff line (not the actual password
of course) that you use to unlock the HP200. I can't get it to work. I let
appointment book run a batch file called unlock.bat file with this first
line:

ks xxxxxxxx\    (where "xxxxxxxx" is my password, and "\" is the ks symbol
for the ENTER key)

The appointment is set up with "|unlock.bat" in the description field, same
start and end time and alarm disabled. Is there something obvious I have
overlooked?

Best regards, Gert Thomasen, g.thomasen@ieee.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Carrington
"Look for ks.com, ...... I use it to run backups and change the topcard with
my
topcard rotator but first it has to enter my password to access the
machine.  It works fine.  Just use it from your appointment book to
unlock your palmtop right before your alarm goes off."

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> AGAIN, Let me WARN YOU!!! If you try to charge a
> NON-RECHARGEABLE battery like alkalines or Lithiums, you
> are exposing yourself to A HUGE POTENTIAL DANGER! Lithiums
> being charged respond with a fantastic explosion! If the

Another newly discovered application for the LX!
Is there an program which starts charging at a given time? I want to
use my lx as a time bomb.

:)

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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Hi,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: slim1005 Ýmailto:slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET¨
> Subject: Re: Busted 200LX, looking for replacement
>
>
> Further, I can not see how surface impurities on the logic
> board warrant
> replacement of the board.
>

I believe the surface impurities are mineral deposits left over from
moisture that condensed and then evaporated leaving the minerals behind.
This can happen say...if you leave your HP200 in the car overnignt.  The air
temperature drops and then moisture condenses on and in the unit.  The
deposits will develop over time and when there are enough deposits, they
will short out the circuit board ( perhaps in several places at once ).  It
looks like a whitish powder.

This mineral stuff gets into everything and everywhere ( even under the IC's
since the moisture probably flowed by capillary action ).

Sometimes we clean our circuit boards with distilled water and a small
brush, then making sure the board is ** completely **  dried.  But...if the
contamination is under the IC's, then ....at this point it is much cheaper
to replace the board than have a technician spend a lot of time replacing
IC's.

Hope this helps,
Jon C.

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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> AGAIN, Let me WARN YOU!!! If you try to charge a NON-RECHARGEABLE
> battery like alkalines or Lithiums, you are exposing yourself to A
> HUGE POTENTIAL DANGER! Lithiums being charged respond with a fantastic
> explosion!

I thought it was lithium ion rechargeable batteries that exploded when
overcharged-- and even then, only the older ones.

In any case, there's a way you can charge lithium AND alkaline batteries,
though not in the palmtop.  You have to do them in parallel and not in
series, so a nicad battery charger won't work.  But I set it up about six
months ago and was quite successful at trickle charging a pair of dead
Energizer lithiums at a constant 25ma or so.  The downside: it took a
week, and the batteries only got eight running hours after that, and
exhibited a fairly straight discharge curve (looking like alkalines).
But something may have been wrong with one of those batteries to begin
with, because they only lasted 13 running hours new.  The next pair I
tried lasted 35 hours fresh, so I started charging them... but I got
impatient and cranked the current up to 75ma.  It might have worked, but I
left them in it too long, and then discovered the main danger of charging
non-rechargeables: I overcharged one, and it suddenly got warm (not hot)
and lost all voltage.  So, while it wasn't a fantastic explosion (which
would have been interesting <g>) it did illustrate that they're not really
designed for recharging, so it's not worth the hassle.

Of course, I wouldn't want to try fast-charging a pair of lithiums at
100ma in the palmtop. The higher current and the series charging might
cause the battery to burst, which could have disastrous consequences, as
Avi said.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:10:13 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: LED backlight Ýfluff?¨

I have a white LED which I got from a local parts house (Electronic
Parts Outlet, in Houston - 713.784.0140).  This thing is bright enough
to use as a flashlight, even running on two hearing-aid cells.  I
haven't bothered to measure the current required but I can tell you that
after a month of momentary cycling, it is still at 100% brightness.  I
figure I have used the cells for a total of an hour over 30 days.  I
don't know how long they would last if used continuously.

The LED was about $5US and requires no special power supply (3 volts),
although I would limit the current with a resistor if used continuously
for more than a few seconds.

Now here's the good part... I went to Academy (department store,
camping, clothing, shoes, and etc.) and found a thing used by bow
hunters to illuminate the aiming points on a compound bow.  It is made
entirely of brass and holds two cells and an LED.  I removed the red
LED, and the mounting screw, and installed the white one (tools
required: finger nail clipper).  It's very small, so small in fact that
when holding it in your teeth, using my palmtop, I have almost swallowed
it!

I am looking at a way to incorporate a white LED into my palmtop, in
some way to not have to hold one myself.

Phil

>From:  Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE¨
>
>For those, interested in technical background about the new
>low power LEDs, here is the URL of the inventors of this new
>technology:
>
>http://www.iap.fhg.de/public/ag33/ledhome.html
>
>fhg stands for "Fraunhofer Gesellschaft", which is a very
>famous german science foundation. AFAIK, mass production of
>this new generation LEDs already begun. I'll make further
>enquires and let you know about the results.
>

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I wonder has anybody tried to tailor Flexpad so that it works like Agenda.
I like the latter's feature (eg customised view) but can't tolerate the
speed. Flexpad's speed is very much faster, even on compressed (jammed)
disk.
I am checking the pro & con of buying a ATA card and Compact Flash memory
card and of a cheap and reliable source. I would appreciate some tips from
fellow palmtopper. Thanks in advance.

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I recently formatted one of my PRETEC 12Meg Flash ATA cards.  Since they=
 came
already formatted this is the first time I have had to reformat any of them.=
=20
Now my 200LX won't recognize the flash card, even to try formatting again=
 (The
error I get is =93Format not supported on drive A:  Format terminated.=94).

Any assistance I can get will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=20
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(812)854-1729=A0=A0 Fax: 1916
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I agree. I think the power-ON password is very secure also (excepting for flash
card data as mentioned), tho I'm one of those people loath to key in passwords
every time my LX times out (I hate being nagged <g>).

I don't have one of the souped up 32/64mb units, but I understood that their
memories (ie, the big internal RAM drive) persists even after a hard reboot?
Someone else who has one can comment on that.

Every security strategy varies and is unique as each of our situations
warrants...and as another poster pointed out it's often a balancing act between
security and usability....

- Longden





Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK> on 03/11/99 03:42:25 PM

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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

Ý...¨
> There are other password and protection schemes available (Secure Disk or
> something like that), but I haven't tried them...since I don't enter data on
my
> LX that would disasterously compromise myself or anyone.

I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it asks
you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I don't
think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway. This
obviously only applies to files on the built-in RAM drive and will do
nothing to protect files on a flashcard.

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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:19:19 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> =
wrote:

p.> If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-base=
d
p.> password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my =
200?
p.> Preferably System Manager compliant...

Well you can always try PGP and LXPGP. They may meet your needs. There
is also a tiny (600bytes) program by Stefan Peichl called Crypt that
can add a layer of confusion. Go to HPLX.net and follow the links,
while you're there you can find many other great programs Stefan has
made available.
I guess depends on your level of concern, I've rigged mine to explode
if it gets more than 20ft from me, but don't tell anyone......

HTH

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Subject:      Re: 'snappier' keys on the 200LX
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:12:27 -0500, Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM> =
wrote:

bi> Has anyone else noticed the following phenomenon on their LX?
bi>
bi> The most heavily used keys on my 200LX keyboard (A,E,C,D,B,U,ALT,MENU)
bi> have, over time, developed a higher pitched snapping sound in addition
bi> to the usual dull key click noise.  These keys don't even have to be
bi> pressed all the way down to get the higher pitched snapping noise.
bi> This noise has something to do with physical travel of the keys
bi> and is not electronic.  My guess is that some membrane in the
bi> keyboard is getting worn out.

Yes, my keyboard does the same thing, similar keys. The plastic "legs"
of the keys may be loosing stiffness allowing the key to hit the bubble
membrane kind of like a drum, only smaller;¬¨ the bubble membrane may be
seperating from the contact pad a little or, you would be surprised at
how much dirt is in the keyboard if you have never cleaned it. I have
read about the space bar breaking a leg, can't remember any others.
It's a pretty well built unit.

HTH

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You might try the built-in FDISK100 command (on d:\bin).  I think it works at a
lower level than FORMAT and normally one does FDISK100, and then FORMAT on a
completely unformatted ATA flash.

- Longden





Larry Berry <lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL> on 03/12/99 07:17:53 AM

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Subject:  Need help with Flash Card!




I recently formatted one of my PRETEC 12Meg Flash ATA cards.  Since they came
already formatted this is the first time I have had to reformat any of them.
Now my 200LX won't recognize the flash card, even to try formatting again (The
error I get is

--0__=u3rp2SCFR5w7zpdZDfQ3PPKgxvjrpwi4E1d0Hxt2djKHSBxkDDb04CMn
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable


=F4Format not supported on drive A:  Format terminated.=

--0__=u3rp2SCFR5w7zpdZDfQ3PPKgxvjrpwi4E1d0Hxt2djKHSBxkDDb04CMn
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline


--0__=u3rp2SCFR5w7zpdZDfQ3PPKgxvjrpwi4E1d0Hxt2djKHSBxkDDb04CMn
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable


=F6).

Any assistance I can get will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.


=

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I've had 1300 NiMH (and a flash card) also and have had no problems letting
ABC/LX do the start at 2.40v, so I don't think you should have problems related
to letting it drop to 2.50v.

Your settings are a bit different than mine, but that alone shouldn't cause the
lockup you saw (which may be unrelated to ABC/LX). D&A may be better able to
comment on that, but you probably want to see if the problem persists first.

My settings for 1300 NiMH:

Start charging at 2.40 V
Stop fast charging at 2.90V
Stall time 6.00Hr
Total charge time 16.00Hr
Trickle Charge 0.0

NiMH seem to take a long time to recharge and have long stall times, tho I just
recently (last 6 months) tried using Olympus NiMH batteries (from a digital
camera shop..... Olympus Camedia batteries, 1450mAh, B-01E) and have gotten not
only a surprising increase in battery life, but they recharged from 2.40v to
2.90v in about 7hrs.

My screen goes faint during charging also (as does everyones, I think), but
normally On+ does the trick.

- Longden





David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL> on 03/11/99 12:13:38 AM

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Subject:  ABCDEMO problem




I have started using 1300mah Nimh batteries over the last couple of weeks
and I thought I would try out ABC to see how it would handle charging them.
So a week and a half ago I set ABC to Autotune my batteries and came up with
the following settings:
Start charging at 2.50 V
Stop fast charging at 2.90V
Stall time 1.23Hr
Total charge time 10.50Hr
Trickle Charge 0.0

This morning for the first time the voltage indicator showed that the battery
voltage was 2.48V and true to the job description, when I got to work and
plugged in my palmtop, it started charging. After about 30 mins, I noticed
that the screen was very faint (to be expected) but pressing ON + had no effect
In fact pressing ANY key had no effect except for CTRL LSHIFT ON. This of
course stopped the charge cycle which I now have restarted manually. I have
a 30Mb flash disk installed. Could it be that the drain of the flash card and
very low batteries is too much for the palmtop? What is a good starting
voltage for these batteries? I would welcome any suggestions before I buy
the software. (Are you reading this Avi ? :-)

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I think most of us have are rigged the reverse of what you do <g>.

- Longden





Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM> on 03/12/99 07:30:53 AM

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Subject:  Re: Password protection




On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:19:19 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> wrote:

I guess depends on your level of concern, I've rigged mine to explode
if it gets more than 20ft from me, but don't tell anyone......

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My news is not good. I had a 40MB Pretec card that I paid $350 for. It is
THE WORST lx-related purchase I have ever made. The Pretec card was
abisimally slow and it finally died with the same symptoms you're
describing. I even sent the card off to a another guy who gavc it shot at
trying to fix it with some other software tools. (I think his name was Brian
Biggers. Haven't seen his name on  the list lately..)

Ý RANT MODE ON ¨
The end result was a worthless card. I had owned the card for over a year so
I didn't bother trying to get satisfaction from pretec but I will tell
everyone that these cars SUCK! stay away from them. New 40MB cards go for
$150-$200USD nowadays. Yer better off upgrading rather than wasting your
time with the lousy Pretec card.
Ý RANT MODE OFF ¨

I hope you're able to fix your card. If you're under a strict budget, try
buying a used one.


Good luck.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Berry Ýmailto:lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL¨
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 10:18 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Need help with Flash Card!
>
>
> I recently formatted one of my PRETEC 12Meg Flash ATA cards.
> Since they came
> already formatted this is the first time I have had to
> reformat any of them.
> Now my 200LX won't recognize the flash card, even to try
> formatting again (The
> error I get is "Format not supported on drive A:  Format
> terminated.").
>
> Any assistance I can get will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
>
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Call Apex directly at 1-800-841-2739

Mike...

> Bob,
>
> Mobile Planet doesn't admit they have the Apex Data product line =
anymore.
> Any other ideas?
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: pcmcia modem
>
> Nancy try the Apex Data 33.6 from Mobil Planet.  About 138ma.  Not =
X-jack
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both
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              "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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Subject:      200LX Upgrade (was Happy to be Back!)
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Bill (and list),

I have a 1MB 200LX (I assume single speed).  The discussion on this list as
caused me to consider upgrading its memory.  I'm curious what options are
available and why people have done the upgrades.

I would like to enhance the ability to edit documents in a more compatible
format with MS Word 97 on my desktop.  Memo is ok, but only for initial
drafts.  I'm assuming that I would need significantly more memory to run an
MS Word compatible program.  I'm also assuming that a Flash card alone would
not suffice.

Are my assumptions correct?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

L. Brooks

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> Bill Sprague
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>
>>
> <snip>
>
>
> The above is the frustration that finally cause me to auction off
> the P III.
> I knew I wanted the flexibility the HP 200LX offered so I went
> shopping and
> found a couple on eBay that I can send off to Hal's Pals for upgrade.
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
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              Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>
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>Many, many years ago I transferred files from the 48SX to the 95LX
(both
>machines are now gone). I recall that it involved using the built in
Kermit
>subset on both machines.  The process was unreliable, IMO.   I finally
gave
>up and got a second cable and a gender changer. Wire transfers worked
OK
>but they were slow.  Hopefully, others will share more recent
experiences.
>
>.ed.

I used Kermit(dos) on a Hp 700 lx and a ir transfer/wire transfer
between the Hp and a hp 48 sx. Hp 48 sx is 9600 max. Do not recall that
I had any problems setting this up. I will hook it up again and get back
to the list..

I hooked them up in the first place just to see if it could be done..



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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:53:06 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Medical words add on to dictionary
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Hi Patrick,

I have a medical dictionary (diskette) that is used with the Wordperfect
spellchecker.  Or are you looking for something like Taber's Medical
Dictionary?

Best regards,

Claud

At 10:14 PM 3/3/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Folks
>
>My daughter, a hp100LX user, is looking for a
>Medical Dictionary that will run on it.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>--
>Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
>Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
>HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
>pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
>PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
>51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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>I would like to enhance the ability to edit documents in a more compatible
>format with MS Word 97 on my desktop.

WordPerfect 5.1, you need about 1M diskspace. WP 5.1 is a format in which
you won't loose the most format settings. It is also very fast on the LX.

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>>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in applications i
do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to make place
for
more applications?

Yes there is a way to do what you want.  BUT back up the original
APPMGR.DAT file first.

Use the Order key to move the unwanted items to the bottom of the list
using the F8 key and F7 key. =


Use a hex editor of your choice and find the apps that you don't use, e.g=
.
cc:Mail
and overwrite the strings of hex numbers with 00's.  Save the file. Close=

and open App Mgr. Go to the bottom of the icon view and you'll see a bunc=
h
of icons with no labels. Use the F4 delete key to delete the icons.  =


Once you make this change there's no "undo" other than wiping everything
from the C: drive and rebuilding the machine. Hence the need for saving t=
he
original file. =


How do I know this stuff? Well, I'm writing an article all about App Mgr
for PTP. =

I've got this program doing some interesting things, e.g. I removed the
icons for all the blue key apps. Who needs 'em when you've got the blue
keys? =


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When I use Smmlx on a Hp 700 Lx 2mb and sometimes try to edit or add a
application I get "Divide overflow" in the upper left corner. After this
the Hp freezes up and need to have its backup batteries and main
batteries pulled out to work.

I do backup very often, but this "Divide overflow" is driving me nuts. I
suspect that this has something to do with my Config.sys settings. Am I
right? I have tried to increase buffers/file/stacks...but I can not find
the right solution..

Please help



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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Let's see now, I have to dissect it to let you know what it all does.
First of all I do have kbuf128.sys in my config.sys file to give me a
larger keyboard buffer and allow keystuffer to exceed 16 characters.
Also, keep keystuffer in a root directory as to allow more programing
keys by not wasting extra directory typing.

My script that I run from appointment manager during the middle of the
night is:

|c:\ks.com password/\)\Mal\)Uox\Ff|10

|               to run a program from the appointment manager
c:\ks.com       program itself
space           to separate the program and the keystrokes
password        password as the first thing typed by ks.com
/               enter key in ks.com to enter the password
\)              &... key to enter application manager
\M              menu key
a               application submenu
l               close all open programs to allow good backups
\)              &... key to re-enter the application manager
U               my hotkey to an icon on the desktop that runs a .bat
                script that backs up all my desired files
o               my hotkey to an icon on the desktop that runs topcard to
                randomly pick a new topcard for the next day
x               if I remember correctly, this is just an extra character
                to delay my next command that was being quirky beforehand.
                it is a key that is not assigned as a hot key on the desktop
\Ff             "Function F" to relock the palmtop through Buddy to resecure
                without a timer delay to keep the machine safe at night
|10             to allow 10k memory to run this script from the appointment manager

One big thing to remember when doing any program running like this from
appointment manager.  If you leave a dos program running when you go to
bed, this whole thing will not run.  The application manager can only
run one dos program at a time.  Keystuffer is a dos program.  Ti stuffs
the keyboard buffer and exits, which allows you to have those stuffed
keys to call up dos programs, one at a time, afterwards.  My script
actually runs two dos programs.  Both .bat files that do more things.  I
found it easiest to have my .bat files as desktop icons as I have at
times wanted to use them myself and it was an easy way to keep things
convenient.

Hope this helps

Dan






Gert Thomasen wrote:
>
> Dan, can I ask you to provide me the keystuff line (not the actual password
> of course) that you use to unlock the HP200. I can't get it to work. I let
> appointment book run a batch file called unlock.bat file with this first
> line:
>
> ks xxxxxxxx\    (where "xxxxxxxx" is my password, and "\" is the ks symbol
> for the ENTER key)
>
> The appointment is set up with "|unlock.bat" in the description field, same
> start and end time and alarm disabled. Is there something obvious I have
> overlooked?
>
> Best regards, Gert Thomasen, g.thomasen@ieee.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Carrington
> "Look for ks.com, ...... I use it to run backups and change the topcard with
> my
> topcard rotator but first it has to enter my password to access the
> machine.  It works fine.  Just use it from your appointment book to
> unlock your palmtop right before your alarm goes off."
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:02:20 -0500
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At 09:37 AM 3/12/99 PST, you wrote:
>When I use Smmlx on a Hp 700 Lx 2mb and sometimes try to edit or add a
>application I get "Divide overflow" in the upper left corner. After this
>the Hp freezes up and need to have its backup batteries and main
>batteries pulled out to work.
>
Martin,
I played with Smmlx for a while. I went back to HDM and appmgr combination
because of this freeze up. It was a pain to reset the system all the time.
As I remember though, if a ctrl-shift-del didn't work, I could always use
ctrl-shift-on and answer "no" to system initialization. I never had to take
out the batteries. This was on a 200lx and not a 700lx.
Sorry I don't have any advice about how to fix the problem.
Owen

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Subject:      Jam,SC and RDT2T

Has anyone out there gotten JAM to work with a 32MB LX using the latest SC?
I was able to get it working if I load the JAM drivers before anything else
but I would like to eanble JAM for only specific work areas using the SC
device.com program. When I try to do it this way I crash every time. The
crash will sometimes lock up or reboot the LX. Any clues?


TIA

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I need to jump in on this one, I too tried the WinCE stuff a few months ago,
bought a Compaq Companion (Casio) with WinCE 1.1 on it.  Promptly upgraded
to WinCE 2.0 but still didn't like it. Major draw back was speed and battery
life with size a close second, sold it to someone on ebay.  I carry a 200lx
around because it fits in a pocket, runs forever on 2 AA batteries, is
really instant on, has PIM applications that make sense (and work) and if
you don't like what comes with it, there is a ton of software still
available for DOS 5.0!  I also use a Libretto 100CT as my desktop
workstation on my job.  I bought the Libretto because I was tired of the 8
pound laptop with the 30 minute battery life that I had been using.  I never
thought the Libretto would be a replacement for my 200lx and I was correct,
but they do compliment each other quite nicely.  I have cpack installed on
the Libretto along with WinTwin and the HP PIM software downloaded from
SUPER. Transfering data by wire of flash card is simple and reliable and
fast.  The best features of the 200lx are no new language to learn to write,
no stylus to loose and you can do almost anything with the 200lx you can do
with any other PC.  You don't need a PC to install software on the 200lx
like you do with WinCE machines and you aren't stuck with the whims and
direction dictated by the Redmondians.

IMHO no one has come up with a palmtop computer that is any where close to
the 200lx!  Bill Gates and company obviously have never depended on a hand
held computer or ever tried to do any useful work with one.  I remember a
joke / cartoon from the late 80's which depicted a super powerful wrist
watch computer that required a 75 pound car battery to run it.  Well, today
each new hand held to come upon the market has more and more fluff with less
meat.  HP, please update the 200lx design and keep on producing it.

Sincerely

John Guenther

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:44:50 -0800
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Claud,

We have the stedman's add on for WordPerfect and
for MS Word.
She was looking for the dictionary that allows one
to look up the word and view the definitions.
David pointed us to one but she need to get a
large flashcard before she buys that one.  So for
now she figures sometime next year when she can
afford a larger flashcard.

Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I have a medical dictionary (diskette) that is used with the Wordperfect
> spellchecker.  Or are you looking for something like Taber's Medical
> Dictionary?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Claud
>
> At 10:14 PM 3/3/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >Folks
> >
> >My daughter, a hp100LX user, is looking for a
> >Medical Dictionary that will run on it.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
> >Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
> >HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
> >pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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> >51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:56:46 -0800
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Larry,

I've had the format command on the hp fail several
times.
I've found it necessary to use my notebook to
format the
pcmcia card.



Larry Berry wrote:
>
> I recently formatted one of my PRETEC 12Meg Flash ATA cards.  Since they came
> already formatted this is the first time I have had to reformat any of them.
> Now my 200LX won't recognize the flash card, even to try formatting again (The
> error I get is  Format not supported on drive A:  Format terminated. ).
>
> Any assistance I can get will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:01:19 -0800
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> My news is not good. I had a 40MB Pretec card that I paid $350 for. It
> is THE WORST lx-related purchase I have ever made. The Pretec card was
> abisimally slow and it finally died with the same symptoms you're
> describing. I even sent the card off to a another guy who gavc it shot
> at trying to fix it with some other software tools. (I think his name
> was Brian Biggers. Haven't seen his name on the list lately..)

Sorry to hear this.  I had EXACTLY the same problem with a new 32MB Pretec
card in early 1998.  Eventually I sold it to somebody to use in an
Omnibook, since those cards are only slow and prone to die in an LX, for
some reason.  I definitely do not recommend Pretec cards for the 200LX--
Simple Tech/Viking/Lexar or Sandisk cards are the way to go.

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Folks,

Somebody said they had act for HP 1.1.1 working
with Act 3.0?  Is this correct?

I've got it working with 2.0 but .....


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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:00:53 -0800
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Well, at first I just renamed my "password and stuff" file to something
insignificant like "movie.gdb", but then, while I was talking with you guys,
I wondered if the database would read a file that has a different extension.
I tried it, and it worked, so I realized I could just use *any* filename.
And since the encrypted file looks just like a binary file when "viewed"
using F8, it seemed to me that the "stealth" effect would be perfect!

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@earthlink.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Philippe Lewis
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Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: Password protection


On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:29:56 -0800, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> wrote:

> Well, people, here's an alternative: stealth!
>
> Rename that file containing sensitive information to something like
> "filer.exm" or "command.com". If they ever think about looking inside it,
it
> will look just like garbage -- like any other executable. Bottom line,
they
> will have to suspect that such a file exist on the palmtop, then try to
open
> every executable to find which one is the password protected file, then
try
> to crack the password.
>
> Just more of a deterrent, that's all...
>
> Philippe :)

This is a great idea. How in the hell did you come up with?


Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:01:08 -0500
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L. Brooks wrote:
>
> Bill (and list),
>
> I have a 1MB 200LX (I assume single speed).  The discussion on this list as
> caused me to consider upgrading its memory.  I'm curious what options are
> available and why people have done the upgrades.
>
> I would like to enhance the ability to edit documents in a more compatible
> format with MS Word 97 on my desktop.  Memo is ok, but only for initial
> drafts.  I'm assuming that I would need significantly more memory to run an
> MS Word compatible program.  I'm also assuming that a Flash card alone would
> not suffice.
>
> Are my assumptions correct?  Any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> L. Brooks
>
Why would you assume that a `Flash card alone would not suffice'?
I have a small C: HP200 Lx with a couple of flash cards and find it
a viable configuration that was very reasonable in price.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:02:23 -0800
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Where did you get "Secure Device"?

Thanks,

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 4:28 AM
Subject: Security


I'll add my .02 to the security discussion.

For me, there are two security issues:
a. Data inherit to the HPLX on the C: drive
b. Data on PCMCIA disks

I believe that if you secure the HPLX with a password, then you will
be safe with regard to data on the c: drive, unless the unit is on
when you lose / have it stolen. This is a risk that I mitigate simply
by turning it off whenever I am not using it. Helps for battery life
too <g>. I think this is an acceptable level of risk (for me) and
provide no additional security for my c: drive.

As far as the PCMCIA, I use Secure Device to make a secure drive on the
PCMCIA card. I even automatically login with a batch file that resides
on my c: drive. One (painful) lesson learned... keep your login
password written down somewhere secure, and not on you HLPX... I
trashed my c: drive, lost my passcode, and lost the data. Fortunately,
i backup my drive monthly. Unfortunately, I had started to do the
backup of the secured file vice the unencrypted data, which is fine -
as long as you remember the password. It gave me yet another lesson in
appreciation of regular, RECOVERABLE backups!

I am interested in the mentioned PGP URL (www.pgp.org) and will look
into that. I am happy with Secure Device in that I noted no particular
performance problem.

Again, security is always a trade off of security versus use - to make
it utterly secure, make it unusable?

Brian

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:14:04 -0800
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I thought you could run macros from an appointment item? I you just create a
"password off" macro for the evening, and a "password on" macro for the
morning, you should be all set!

Philippe ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Gert Thomasen <Gert.Thomasen@ETSI.FR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: Password protection


>This is exactly why I want to use this, and not the file-encrypting
facility
>of application manager. The power-on password feature, while not
>sufficiently strong to withstand a long-term government attack, is very
good
>at preventing occasional thieves from getting access to all our
>logins/account information/pin-codes etc. before we even notice that they
>have been stolen. Honestly, the AM password feature is just too weak, in
>case a computer nerd gets access to my HP. HPCRACK is easy to find on the
>net, even for someone who doesn't know what to look for.
>
>But laziness cause me to consider automation to be the true value of the
>HP200. Therefore I dislike that I have to manually turn the password
feature
>off before going to bed (relying on HPALARM to get me up again), and when
up
>again to manually turn the password feature on before slipping the HP200
>into my backpack. So I am asking again if someone has any idea of how to
>turn the power-on password protection on and off from a program. Keystuff
>will NOT do it, because it can not hold down the "ON" key while striking
the
>"ENTER" key, and the password feature seems to block any programs from
>running until the password has been entered (incl. keystuff).
>
>Best regards, Gert Thomasen, g.thomasen@ieee.org
>
>----
>Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
>Ý...¨
>
>I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it asks
>you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I don't
>think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
>which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway.
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:18:25 -0800
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If you could build a little plastic arm that connects to the power
(separately, with a little switch) that would be hooked (screwed, glued) to
the side of the palmtop, then you'd be all set! My dad's looking into it...

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: LED backlight Ýfluff?¨


>I have a white LED which I got from a local parts house (Electronic
>Parts Outlet, in Houston - 713.784.0140).  This thing is bright enough
>to use as a flashlight, even running on two hearing-aid cells.  I
>haven't bothered to measure the current required but I can tell you that
>after a month of momentary cycling, it is still at 100% brightness.  I
>figure I have used the cells for a total of an hour over 30 days.  I
>don't know how long they would last if used continuously.
>
>The LED was about $5US and requires no special power supply (3 volts),
>although I would limit the current with a resistor if used continuously
>for more than a few seconds.
>
>Now here's the good part... I went to Academy (department store,
>camping, clothing, shoes, and etc.) and found a thing used by bow
>hunters to illuminate the aiming points on a compound bow.  It is made
>entirely of brass and holds two cells and an LED.  I removed the red
>LED, and the mounting screw, and installed the white one (tools
>required: finger nail clipper).  It's very small, so small in fact that
>when holding it in your teeth, using my palmtop, I have almost swallowed
>it!
>
>I am looking at a way to incorporate a white LED into my palmtop, in
>some way to not have to hold one myself.
>
>Phil
>
>>From:  Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE¨
>>
>>For those, interested in technical background about the new
>>low power LEDs, here is the URL of the inventors of this new
>>technology:
>>
>>http://www.iap.fhg.de/public/ag33/ledhome.html
>>
>>fhg stands for "Fraunhofer Gesellschaft", which is a very
>>famous german science foundation. AFAIK, mass production of
>>this new generation LEDs already begun. I'll make further
>>enquires and let you know about the results.
>>
>
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As Phil Drummond reported, white LEDs are already available.
I took out the (german) "Conrad Electronic Catalogue" and found
several of the new LEDs listed. Look for

GaN-LED     =3D Gallium Nitrid LED
AllnGaP-LED =3D Aluminium-Indium-Gallium-Phosphat LED

Brightness of these LEDs is about 100x times higher than with
old ones. They last for 100.000 hours constant use. Power
consumption at 3V is about 20mA. Price varies around $5.

The brightness seems to be measured in mcd, which I cannot
explain. But ordinary LEDs are listed at 2-20 mcd, whereas
the new ones are in the range 400-9500 mcd.

The palmtop uses about 60mA while running. If one external LED
gives enough light to illuminate the screen, best would be to
use the palmtops batteries to power the LED. This would result
in a 30% increased power consumption, which is not too bad for
what you get.

First of all, it should be checked, if one of these LEDs
provides enough light to illuminate the screen. Then the
"real" power consumption should be measured. And the final
question is indeed, how can this be connected to or built into
the palmtop.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:26:51 -0800
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Is there power available through the serial port (as with the Newton
keyboard)?  I know this isn't an ideal way, but, ...

At 09:20 PM 3/12/99 +0000, Stefan.Peich wrote:
>First of all, it should be checked, if one of these LEDs
>provides enough light to illuminate the screen. Then the
>"real" power consumption should be measured. And the final
>question is indeed, how can this be connected to or built into
>the palmtop.

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> The brightness seems to be measured in mcd, which I cannot
> explain. But ordinary LEDs are listed at 2-20 mcd, whereas
> the new ones are in the range 400-9500 mcd.

For those of you that are wondering, mcd = milli-candellas.

>
> The palmtop uses about 60mA while running. If one external LED
> gives enough light to illuminate the screen, best would be to
> use the palmtops batteries to power the LED. This would result
> in a 30% increased power consumption, which is not too bad for
> what you get.
>


Yes, but I bet you would have to turn it off when you insert your modem
card.


Jon

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:46:02 -0800
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L. Brooks wrote:
>> I would like to enhance the ability to edit documents in a more compatible
> format with MS Word 97 on my desktop.
Get WordPerfect 5.1 or LetterPerfect



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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: LED backlight
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> Is there power available through the serial port (as with the Newton
> keyboard)?  I know this isn't an ideal way, but, ...

I don't know. Anyway it would be expensive to get the right
connector. I would prefer to use the external power plug,
because you usually do not need a backlight if connected to
the power adapter. Unfortunately the power plug is not under
volts. What would happen if you simply connect the 3V from
the batteries to the power adapter plug?

You see, I'm a softworker, not a hardworker ;-)

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:19:26 -0600
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40MB Pretec card  is THE WORST lx-related purchase I have ever made.

same problem with a new 32MB Pretec card

ÝRandy Simonson¨  I have a 20 MB Pretec Card which I hate!  I am always
losing data on it.  Thank God for Garlic.  I do not dare put anything
important on it, but with only a 1 MB HP200, that is hard to do.
Will Pretec take them back?  Mine is about a year old, but I thought it was
just me doing something wrong.  IMO they should NOT be advertized in HP
Palmtop Paper and sold for HP200LXs!!!!

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:05:48 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: LED backlight

Where power comes from is not as important as where the LED will be
mounted.  My first thought was to incorporate the pocket which receives
the infamous latch but, you would block the light when accessing the
keys.  Another place I imagine is inside the hinge assembly but, now the
LED shines in your face (believe me, it's quite bright).  I thought
about a retractable rig, something like a cellular antenna... or how
about a "night opps" carrying case that cradles the palmtop and has the
LED(s) and battery in it.  Power is not the problem, it's where do you
put the light source?

Phil

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>program pop up in front of the text you are checking?!? <curse>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:43:39 +0000
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What do you do to get Freelance Graphics for DOS 4.0 working OK on the
LX? Manual says it requires "640K of RAM for a minimum of 466,000 bytes
(455K) free after DOS".

What I did......

* I installed the programme on my 30 Mb flash card.
* I terminate all applications to run in pure DOS. That's supposed to
give 640K memory isn't it? It starts up OK but then comes up with an
"insufficient memory" message. Tried the reduced memory option of
starting the programme with the reduced memory option fl s but doesn't
work either.
* I tried another approach - I installed Maxdos (changing the
autoexec.bat file per the instructions in Jorgen's web page) and tried
launching the programme from System Manager but the screen partly fills
with weird characters and locks up - no go that way!
* Am running Morexm under System Manager. No Buddy running. I have a non
upgraded 200LX.

Any ideas (conflicts?) or do I need to bite the bullet and upgrade to
more memory?

I suspect the weird characters I got was due to the wrong graphics
adapter being specified as it warns about this in the manual. (I copied
the files from the desktop where it specified a colour graphics adapter.

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:08:48 -0800
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Here's a simple image of my idea of a little arm with a directed led at the
end which would light up the screen without lighting up your face. A small
flat wire could go down the screen and connect directly to the battery.

Philippe :)


>----- Original Message -----
>From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 1:05 PM
>Subject: Re: LED backlight
>
>
>>Where power comes from is not as important as where the LED will be
>>mounted.  My first thought was to incorporate the pocket which receives
>>the infamous latch but, you would block the light when accessing the
>>keys.  Another place I imagine is inside the hinge assembly but, now the
>>LED shines in your face (believe me, it's quite bright).  I thought
>>about a retractable rig, something like a cellular antenna... or how
>>about a "night opps" carrying case that cradles the palmtop and has the
>>LED(s) and battery in it.  Power is not the problem, it's where do you
>>put the light source?
>>
>>Phil
>>
>>Post Script:  Why does the spell checker on this damn Windows mail
>>>program pop up in front of the text you are checking?!? <curse>
>>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:21:09 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Paul Yarnell wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:12:27 -0500, Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM> wrote:
>
> bi> The most heavily used keys on my 200LX keyboard (A,E,C,D,B,U,ALT,MENU)
> bi> have, over time, developed a higher pitched snapping sound in addition
> bi> to the usual dull key click noise.  These keys don't even have to be
> bi> pressed all the way down to get the higher pitched snapping noise.
>
> Yes, my keyboard does the same thing, similar keys. The plastic "legs"
> of the keys may be loosing stiffness allowing the key to hit the bubble
> membrane kind of like a drum, only smaller;¬¨ the bubble membrane may be
> seperating from the contact pad a little or, you would be surprised at
> how much dirt is in the keyboard if you have never cleaned it.


I recently experienced a change in the "feel" of the ON
key.  It did not depress when pushed, but would work if
I pushed hard.  Following advice shared on this list
(thanks folks!) I lifted the faceplate off from around
the keys and found a crumb (corn meal chunk?) under the
key.  I lifted each key while directing a stream of
medical grade nitrogen under it.  It works great now!

I don't know if this is similar in any way.  I did not
notice any change in sound, but my hearing is not too
hot anyway.

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:50:38 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Wish I could run Freelance Graphics on my LX

I bet you need to lose the EMS driver there.  Unless your program _must_
have EMS, you are probably losing the needed RAM to the driver for EMS.
If the program has to have EMS and you still do not have enough memory
(take a look with MEM) then no amount of upgrade will help you out.  The
memory upgrades for the HP200LX only increase your static storage.  640k
is the limit for XMS on an HPxDOSLX palmtop.

Phil

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Peter Maddern ÝSMTP:pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK¨
>
><snip>
>
>Any ideas (conflicts?) or do I need to bite the bullet and upgrade to
>more memory?
>
><snip>
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Technical Manager
>North Wales, UK.
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:57:34 -0600
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Carson, Jon A. wrote:

> > The brightness seems to be measured in mcd, which I cannot
> > explain. But ordinary LEDs are listed at 2-20 mcd, whereas
> > the new ones are in the range 400-9500 mcd.
>
> For those of you that are wondering, mcd = milli-candellas.


For me, that information is not terribly illuminating  <groan>
so I pulled out the old P-chem book.  Not much help there.
My Merriam-Webster's says a candela is the SI unit (base, no
less) of luminous intensity, with 1 candela equal to 1/683 watt
per unit angle of monochromatic light at 540 x 10¬12 Hertz.

Let's see if I can make some sense of that now.  The light of
that frequency is 556 nm (yellow to yellow-green), and for an
isotropic source (i.e., radiating in all directions) would be
roughly 18 mW (if my calculations are correct! :).

This doesn't sound like much when compared to your average
light bulb, but if it is focused well it is plenty.

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:43:26 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: LED backlight

> For me, that information is not terribly illuminating  <groan>
> so I pulled out the old P-chem book.  Not much help there.
> My Merriam-Webster's says a candela is the SI unit (base, no
> less) of luminous intensity, with 1 candela equal to 1/683 watt
> per unit angle of monochromatic light at 540 x 10¬12 Hertz.
>
> Let's see if I can make some sense of that now.  The light of
> that frequency is 556 nm (yellow to yellow-green), and for an
> isotropic source (i.e., radiating in all directions) would be
> roughly 18 mW (if my calculations are correct! :).
>
> This doesn't sound like much when compared to your average
> light bulb, but if it is focused well it is plenty.
>
> Ted

Isn't the candela just a standardization of the older foot-candle
measure? Originally the foot-candle was just that, the amount of
light given out by a certain "standard" sized candle, measured at 1
foot distance. You still see foot-candles listed on some bulbs an
such. Milla-candelas would be in 1/1000 of a foot candle.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:47:19 -0500
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David Ness wrote:

> Why would you assume that a `Flash card alone would not suffice'?
> I have a small C: HP200 Lx with a couple of flash cards and find it
> a viable configuration that was very reasonable in price.

Stephen Goeldi wrote:
> WordPerfect 5.1, you need about 1M diskspace. WP 5.1 is a format in which
> you won't loose the most format settings. It is also very fast on the LX.

Others confirmed that WordPerfect is a good choice.

My question:

I currently have my 1MB allocated ÝSystem RAM 572¨ ÝRAM Disk 416¨.
This allows me to have Appt, Phone, 123, Note, Memo, and Calculator open at
the same time (which I usually do).

I am aware that Flash memory is slower than standard RAM and that there is a
theoretical limit to read/write cycles.

So, David, on which disk (RAM or Flash) do you put programs and which do you
put data?  Why?

Thanks in advance.  I'm learning how to use my HP better as a result of this
list.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:59:24 -0500
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:12:27 -0500, Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM> wrote:

Bill,

> Has anyone else noticed the following phenomenon on their LX?
>

Most definitely. I've had a number of 100's and 200's (swapped mostly
due to hinge cracks), and virtually every one showed this symptom.
Always reminded me of crackling cellophane. It has occured in different
keys, mostly towards the outside of the keyboard i.e. escape, the "*"
key etc. I've seen this on keyboards on units fresh from HP repair
services - it's always shown up early. I've never had a key fail from
it, and have on occasion had it "just go away". I posted to the list
about it once, but never received any replies.

Regards,

Larry

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:13:10 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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>> Is there power available through the serial port (as with the Newton
>> keyboard)?  I know this isn't an ideal way, but, ...
>
> I don't know. Anyway it would be expensive to get the right
> connector. I would prefer to use the external power plug.

After some consideration, I think, the serial port would be the
better solution, because of three reasons:

1 - no palmtop manipulation needed
2 - could be controlled by software (serial power on/off)
3 - a fixed plug is more appropriate for use with a
    flexible connected LED than a rotating connection.

Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:37:29 -0330
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Can you point me to any screenshots of the 200LX?

I'd like to see any good screenshots of the 200LX screen while
running one of its major applications.  Preferably camerashots.

Anything goes.

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

Peter Maddern wanted to know a little more about this software and I thought
it may interest the list.

The main feature is that data is not preformatted into specific criteria.
Its good for scribbling type note entry and info retrieval. Or a
Miscellaneous type data ...

MemoryMate is a database type package that indexes every piece of data
entered into every "record". Every record could have a different size and/or
information order etc. Records are not even really neccessary as its like a
huge record thats searched all the way through. It searches similar to
F4(find) in the inbuilt DB but a lot faster and recovers every record that
has matching criteria all at once.  There is also a handy "Hyperlink"
feature that allows linked info to be recalled any time particular info is
accessed..  ie a person can be linked to job and product as well as a
project. If any are accessed all linked info can be retrieved.

Reminder feature to follow up on a record

Date record created, modified etc

Limits

Each "record" can have 120 lines of 80 characters Text
32767 records
32MB max size

As many DB's as you like

Occupies approx 110k Ram

Minimum install is approx 170K plus data files.

DOS 2.1 plus

Any further info wanted please ask.

Regards

Russell

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:14:10 -0500
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Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> sez:

>Where power comes from is not as important as where the LED will be
>mounted.  My first thought was to incorporate the pocket which receives
>the infamous latch but, you would block the light when accessing the
>keys.

How about using the space right under the latch to hold a base for some thin (wire?) extension arm which folds out? If the LED itself is really small, perhaps it could sandwich in between the halves of the unit; if not, then it could ride just outboard of the centerline to one side of the latch (with the arm passing through the case split, perhaps with a bit of local relief of the edge).


Regards,

 -- Patrick W. <pw.list@blackoak.com>

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:22:44 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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=46ound an interesting web site for small laptop computers, its mostly
Japanese laptops converted to english software etc...

Check it out...

http://www.jpd.com

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:26:20 -0700
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Oops! Sorry about that!  I was afraid of that, the *real* URL is:
www.pgpi.com

> From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Password Protection
> Date: 12. mars 1999 04:20
>
> As far as file encryption for security, my I suggest PGPDOS, located
at
> www.pgp.org
>
Sorry - but my DNS points me to Pecan Grove Project at that URL!!!

Cheers from
Paul

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:38:30 +0200
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Subject:      Re: LED Backlight

If the led is small and bright enough it could be glued on the
sceen faceplate under a small reflective hood right between the
200LX and
Palmtop gold lettering. The power wires could run into the latch
slot, around the
LCD down to the battery. The led and hood would fit right between
the N and , keys when the machine is closed and the hood would
reflect more light on the screen. A membrane on / off switch could
even be added. A lense might be needed to distribute the light.

John

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:01:45 -0500
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How about if you used a thin flexible shaft, which has the shielded LED at
one end and a rigidly fixed plug for the serial port on the other. Now you
can direct the light anywhere you need it and not get light in your face.
The whole thing could be no bigger than a thin pencil... When you're done
using it, just unplug it from the serial port, straighten it out and put it
in your shirt pocket like a pen or pencil...

The other option could be a rigid telescoping channel which pivots around
the serial plug, and has an LED head that also swivels...

Just my $.02 worth... :-)

At 01:13 AM 3/13/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>> Is there power available through the serial port (as with the Newton
>>> keyboard)?  I know this isn't an ideal way, but, ...
>>
>> I don't know. Anyway it would be expensive to get the right
>> connector. I would prefer to use the external power plug.
>
>After some consideration, I think, the serial port would be the
>better solution, because of three reasons:
>
>1 - no palmtop manipulation needed
>2 - could be controlled by software (serial power on/off)
>3 - a fixed plug is more appropriate for use with a
>    flexible connected LED than a rotating connection.
>
>Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:10:23 -0800
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Yep, sounds like the idea I had, except that using the serial port is much
simpler.

Now we need is the serial connector...

Philippe :)

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Subject: Re: LED backlight


>How about if you used a thin flexible shaft, which has the shielded LED at
>one end and a rigidly fixed plug for the serial port on the other. Now you
>can direct the light anywhere you need it and not get light in your face.
>The whole thing could be no bigger than a thin pencil... When you're done
>using it, just unplug it from the serial port, straighten it out and put it
>in your shirt pocket like a pen or pencil...
>
>The other option could be a rigid telescoping channel which pivots around
>the serial plug, and has an LED head that also swivels...
>
>Just my $.02 worth... :-)
>
>At 01:13 AM 3/13/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>>> Is there power available through the serial port (as with the Newton
>>>> keyboard)?  I know this isn't an ideal way, but, ...
>>>
>>> I don't know. Anyway it would be expensive to get the right
>>> connector. I would prefer to use the external power plug.
>>
>>After some consideration, I think, the serial port would be the
>>better solution, because of three reasons:
>>
>>1 - no palmtop manipulation needed
>>2 - could be controlled by software (serial power on/off)
>>3 - a fixed plug is more appropriate for use with a
>>    flexible connected LED than a rotating connection.
>>
>>Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?
>>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:15:07 -0600
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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That was me! I'm still here, just quiet. I was hoping to resurect Ed's card by
using
one of the low level ATA format programs that I have, but no luck. I was able to
read the card parameters off of the card, but that was about it. There really
was somethign wrong with it.

-Bryan



Ed Padin wrote:

> My news is not good. I had a 40MB Pretec card that I paid $350 for. It is
> THE WORST lx-related purchase I have ever made. The Pretec card was
> abisimally slow and it finally died with the same symptoms you're
> describing. I even sent the card off to a another guy who gavc it shot at
> trying to fix it with some other software tools. (I think his name was Brian
> Biggers. Haven't seen his name on  the list lately..)
>
> Ý RANT MODE ON ¨
> The end result was a worthless card. I had owned the card for over a year so
> I didn't bother trying to get satisfaction from pretec but I will tell
> everyone that these cars SUCK! stay away from them. New 40MB cards go for
> $150-$200USD nowadays. Yer better off upgrading rather than wasting your
> time with the lousy Pretec card.
> Ý RANT MODE OFF ¨
>
> I hope you're able to fix your card. If you're under a strict budget, try
> buying a used one.
>
> Good luck.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Berry Ýmailto:lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL¨
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 10:18 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Need help with Flash Card!
> >
> >
> > I recently formatted one of my PRETEC 12Meg Flash ATA cards.
> > Since they came
> > already formatted this is the first time I have had to
> > reformat any of them.
> > Now my 200LX won't recognize the flash card, even to try
> > formatting again (The
> > error I get is "Format not supported on drive A:  Format
> > terminated.").
> >
> > Any assistance I can get will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
> >
> > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> > Larry Berry
> > NavSurfWarCen, Crane
> > Bldg# 2917  Code: 6031
> > 300 Hwy 361
> > Crane, Indiana  47522-5001
> > (812)854-1729   Fax: 1916
> > DSN: 482-1729
> > lberry@sem.crane.navy.mil
> > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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My 64meg Super Carousel Machine locked up tight late this afternoon as I
tried to invoke the phonebook.  I was in the appointment book at the
time, with nothing unusual going on.  Running on fairly well-charged
batteries.

Eventually, the only thing I could get it to do is respond to
ctrl-shift-on.  I reply N to initializing the RAM disk (which is not
actually legible), and so far have not had the courage to reply anything
other than N to "Initialize T2T Disk (Y/N)?" When I reply N, it locks up
again.

What do I do?  Is it ok to initialize the T2T?  What is T2T? If I
initialize it, can I get it back right away?  Easily?

I have a week old backup of the C: drive.  I assume that is not the T2T
drive.  Does that mean I have no back up of that drive, or can it be
recreated in a simple fashion?

At the rate I use the machine, a week would be a substantial loss to go
back to.  Can anyone help me?

Tom Baley      tbaley@worldnet.att.net

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:35:00 -0600
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Hi Dave,
   I think that the problems of lithium, and lithium ion batteries are
different. (I'm not an expert or
anything). The lithium ion batteries can really provide a lot of current, and
the problems with at least the early packs (like the lithium sulfide ones)
was heating when they were shorted. A number of early laptops using them
melted down because of this. If you take one of those packs apart, you will
find fuses or resistors between each cell in the pack to try to limit the
current in case of a short. I think that they have now found a way to
incorporate this feature into the cells without wasting too much power.
      The problems with regular lithiums, like the button cell variety, is
that they are not vented (like NiCds are), so they could explode if you charge
them wrong so that there is outgassing in the cell. Because they are pretty
tight, often welded, they can really pop.  People have been injured. by those
little things. One of the  initial theories about the ValueJet crash was
lithium batteries in some toys in the cargo, for example.
     You are probably safe charging them at a very low current (don't call me
if you get hurt!). They even make some now days that are meant to be recharged
at a very low current for backup purposes. I think that the charging current
for those is on the order of microamps, constantly.
    Again, I'm not an expert on battery chemistry, I just like to talk.

-Bryan


David Sargeant wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, A Meshar wrote:
>
> > AGAIN, Let me WARN YOU!!! If you try to charge a NON-RECHARGEABLE
> > battery like alkalines or Lithiums, you are exposing yourself to A
> > HUGE POTENTIAL DANGER! Lithiums being charged respond with a fantastic
> > explosion!
>
> I thought it was lithium ion rechargeable batteries that exploded when
> overcharged-- and even then, only the older ones.
>
> In any case, there's a way you can charge lithium AND alkaline batteries,
> though not in the palmtop.  You have to do them in parallel and not in
> series, so a nicad battery charger won't work.  But I set it up about six
> months ago and was quite successful at trickle charging a pair of dead
> Energizer lithiums at a constant 25ma or so.  The downside: it took a
> week, and the batteries only got eight running hours after that, and
> exhibited a fairly straight discharge curve (looking like alkalines).
> But something may have been wrong with one of those batteries to begin
> with, because they only lasted 13 running hours new.  The next pair I
> tried lasted 35 hours fresh, so I started charging them... but I got
> impatient and cranked the current up to 75ma.  It might have worked, but I
> left them in it too long, and then discovered the main danger of charging
> non-rechargeables: I overcharged one, and it suddenly got warm (not hot)
> and lost all voltage.  So, while it wasn't a fantastic explosion (which
> would have been interesting <g>) it did illustrate that they're not really
> designed for recharging, so it's not worth the hassle.
>
> Of course, I wouldn't want to try fast-charging a pair of lithiums at
> 100ma in the palmtop. The higher current and the series charging might
> cause the battery to burst, which could have disastrous consequences, as
> Avi said.
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:16:24 -0500
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  If this mailing list has failed to send activity to everyone else for
the same period of time, then I apologize in advance for this unnecessary
post which was prompted by an amazing coincidence.

  After lurking and learning from this list for quite a while, I finally
stuck my neck out and actually posted my VERY FIRST message to this list
on Saturday the 13th...

  Well, it is now Tuesday (3 days since the 13th), and I have yet to get
a single digest from this list, since my post. Was this just an
incredible coincidence or did I somehow get cut from the subscriber
list?!

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For those that would like more input: I too went from an HP200 to a
PalmPilot III, and thence to a Psion Series 5. Bear in mind that these
comments are just _my_ opinion.

An awful lot of my time spent typing out of the office is on public
transport. British buses on pot-holed roads, and tube trains really
caused the Graffiti system a problem. My notes would be brief, because I
didn't want the hassle of entering more detail, and of course, when I
came to refer to the notes, the info I wanted, I'd not put in. It's a
neat little device, and nicely made, but after the functionality and
flexibility of the HP, I needed something else. Lotus 1-2-3 is a great
application, and the add-on called Quick Sheet just wasn't a patch on
it.

Enter Psion Series 5, with Palm Pilot being retired to my sister (who
still doesn't understand what it is!) Build quality was less good. I was
usually afraid to use the thing. The apps looked pretty and would be
sure to impress down the pub, but they just didn't _work_ like the HP.
For example, I think the database app on the HP is a real lesson in
power through simplicity. The Psion's was just an ordered list,
basically. It had some features that were good though. The alarms were
very flexible and clever, the voice recorder was occasionally useful.

But the Great Programmer of the Universe was smiling on me, and my Psion
broke! The screen cracked whilst in my pocket after I squashed it
between me the steering wheel getting in to my car. I'm back to my HP,
and it's a joy. All the new goodies I'd started to use on the Palm and
Psion (like e-books, and e-mail) I've looked for and found for the HP.
They're usually better versions on the HP, too. I've brought across the
compact flash card I'd bought for the Psion and now I've got tons of
storage.

One snag is that I love shiny new gadgets. As I type, I can hear the
siren song of a Jornada 420. I never learn.
--
Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:04:08 +0100
Reply-To:     Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de
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Since March 13th I don't get any posts of this list anymore.

Is the list still up? Was I removed somehow?

Please answer to my private adr - thanks.

 Hermann

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:11:44 -0300
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              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Borland C++ 1.0 or 2.0

Hi,
 does anybody know where I can find a Borland C++ (1.0 or 2.0) compiler for
HP ? I've look for in some abandonware sites but without luke.
If you have some idea !!! :)

Oh, yeah, I need some documentation about graphic programming for HP too !

Thank you !!!

Isaque.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:17:46 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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I suddenly don't receive any messages from the HPLX-list.
What happened?
I did no unsubscribe!
I have no WinCE!
I have no PalmPilot Gameboy!
My only computer-sin is: I use Windows NT and Outlook on the Desktop!
No mercy?
-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:04:46 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

     Yes, I was out of town...got stuck due to weather, and just got
back late last night. I haven't really monitored the LIST since
Saturday, when it seems the problems started. I know one server was
down for a while Saturday(the one hosting the HPLX Command Center), but
everything else should have been OK. There were some sporatic power
outages in the area as well, which might have contributed to the
problem.

Hopefully this is cleared up.

Cheers,


*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:38:57 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi, daniel

>>After that, (i.e., removing built in apps) can I register more
EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???

Good question. My quess would be that you could register up to 8 because =
of
the limits of the APNAME.LST files.  HOWEVER there's always the possibili=
ty
that you could have several APNAME.lst files and swap them and reset the
machine to load a new set of EXMs.  This is something to think about and =
it
isn't easy  since App Mgr seems to create the Apname.lst files on closing=

but it doesn't purge the files from App Mgr itself.  =


.ed.
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 03:40:19 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Testing, sure is quiet on the list...

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:59:59 +0000
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I haven't gotten any messages in 3 days - did I fall off the list? or
is everybody just quiet?

Just wondering
Best Regards,
Mike Melancon

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:58:46 -0500
Reply-To:     "wally@pop.uky.edu" <wally@pop.uky.edu>
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From:         Walter Francis <wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Organization: Completely disorganized...
Subject:      Performed crack surgery today, patient is in ICU..
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Well, for a year I've had a 'hair' where the infamous LX crack appears, and
within the last two weeks that hair went from being contained within the
top portion of the lid, to wrapping around the beveled portion to down
towards the hinge.  The last few days it's started to yawn a bit when
closing the lid, so I had to take action.

I formulated my plan from http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/hpcrack.htm a
page that describes placing brass reinforcements over the crack (and good
side for symmetry)  and using JB Kwik as adhesive.  My skills apparently
aren't up to the person who made the rather attractive brass pieces in the
picture shown on the above URL, but I did the best I could.  I rounded the
corners, beveled the edges, and used steel wool on the top surface, and a
rough sanding tool on the bottom to give the adhesive a better chance.  The
backside of the brass doesn't curve like in the picture, but it doesn't
look bad at all.  Looks kinda funny from the side, but from the top it
almost seems like it belongs there.  If only it were a little duller to
match the HP logo on the lid.  And the only JB I saw was JB Weld, so that's
what I grabbed.  Kwik is the quick drying formula, and while I'd love to
have the palmtop with me 24/7, I can let it rest and hopefully let its'
wound heal.

I'll let you all know how it does.  I'm hoping that tomorrow I'll be able
to open and close the lid without any movement in the crack.  If so, I'll
put 'er back to work and keep my eyes open for hemorrhaging.  If not...
hmm...  I'm not sure.  I considered superglue, then sanding smooth and then
applying the brass, I'll probably try that next if I have to.

Comments welcome.

--
Walter Francis
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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:17:58 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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From:         Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
Subject:      Compact Flash Question
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Dear Palmtopppers,
I've been the proud owner of a 2mb Hp200lx for 3 years.
Now I've finally decided to buy a flash card: I'd like to run TeX,
DataPerfect, Gnuplot and some other piece of software on it.
I think that the question is "newbie-rated", but I've never faced this
kind of problem before, so I need your help: is the power consumption
of a Compact Flash Card the same as Ata PCMCIA Type II flash Card
(same brand, sandisk)?
I'd like to buy a 48Mb Compact Flash (as low as 125 bucks, take a
look at www.shopper.com and search for sandisk).

                                Thanks a lot
                                Raffaele Gaioni


Note: Excuse me for my poor English... :)

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:14:20 -0500
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              David L Sprinkle <dsprinkl@INDIANA.EDU>
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From:         David L Sprinkle <dsprinkl@INDIANA.EDU>
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Is it just me or has something happened to the list? I've not received
any mail since Friday.




Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
Swain West Rm. 117
Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:09:40 -0500
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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Steve Novosad wrote:

> At work we just got a Viking Components
> 56K PC Card Modem for a laptop.  I tried it
> with my 200LX and it seems to work well

That modem will "work" in the palmtop for a very short call.
But after any longer use, it will probably burn up the
palmtop.  The regular Viking PCMCIA modem draws way too much
power from the palmtop.  Viking also makes a WinCE version
that draws less power, but still too much for the palmtop.

My suggestion: don't continue to use it.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:38:55 -0500
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From:         Brenda Clyde <baclyde@APLCOMM.JHUAPL.EDU>
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There used to be some windows freeware software available on the hp site
called TRANSFILE 200? Does anyone know where I can get another copy? I
wiped my hard drive and thought I would be able to go to the previous
site and get it and now I can't find it. I'm so used to it, i don't want
to learn anything else.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brenda

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:22:16 -0500
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David Sargeant said:

> In any case, there's a way you can charge lithium AND alkaline batteries,
> though not in the palmtop.  You have to do them in parallel and not in
> series, so a nicad battery charger won't work.  But I set it up about six
> months ago and was quite successful at trickle charging a pair of dead
> Energizer lithiums

Please don't encourage people to attempt charging Energizer
Lithium batteries.  There is NO WAY they were ever intended to
be recharged or renewed or anything of the sort.  They are
primary batteries - not for recharging

We have enough trouble with people confusing the Energizer
Lithium primary batteries with the Lithium-Ion rechargeable
batteries.  They are two different animals.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:22:19 -0500
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David Becher said:

> This morning for the first time the voltage indicator showed that the battery
> voltage was 2.48V and true to the job description, when I got to work and
> plugged in my palmtop, it started charging. After about 30 mins, I noticed
> that the screen was very faint (to be expected) but pressing ON + had no effect
> In fact pressing ANY key had no effect except for CTRL LSHIFT ON

Your machine locked up for some reason, but it did not have
anything to do with the current draw of the flashcard while
charging.  What kind of AC adapter are you using?  HP's?
Whatever it is, it should be able to supply 750 ma at 12 volts
DC.  Does yours do at least that?


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:55:47 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:54:29 -0500 (EST)

Hi-

Sure is quiet on the list.  Is the server down, or is everyone
hibernating?  8-)

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:57:41 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      FLASH card use (was Re: 200LX Upgrade (...))
Comments: To: "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <000401be6ce2$aa697800$31026fc6@ldbrooks.umich.edu>; from L.
              Brooks on Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 06:47:19PM -0500
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1999-03-12-23:47:19 L. Brooks:
> I currently have my 1MB allocated ÝSystem RAM 572¨ ÝRAM Disk 416¨.
> This allows me to have Appt, Phone, 123, Note, Memo, and Calculator open at
> the same time (which I usually do).
>
> I am aware that Flash memory is slower than standard RAM and that there is a
> theoretical limit to read/write cycles.
>
> So, David, on which disk (RAM or Flash) do you put programs and which do you
> put data?  Why?

I've had several different usage patterns over the years; it has varied with
the amount of C: RAM and the size of FLASH I had at various points in time.

At one extreme, I had a 5MB 200LX; it had c. 640K for DOS, and the remaining
c. 4.3MB was C:; I JAMmed that (compressed using jam125sw.zip), and so had a
good 8-10MB available for storage for C:. On a clock-doubled machine, the
JAMmed C: was nearly as fast as the FLASH, so I used C: for all changing data,
and FLASH for programs and for read-only data. That worked great.

Now I'm at an opposite extreme; until I can fix my 200LX, I'm working on an
emergency-backup machine, a 1MB 100LX at original clock speed. And I've
upgraded to an 85MB FLASH. So now I keep everything on the FLASH. Those few
files that apps insist on finding on C: somewhere, I let live there, and
frequently backup to a:\bck\, and I've got an autoexec.bat that will reload
c:\ from a:\bck\ if necessary; so my FLASH is the entire personality of my LX,
and I can move it from one box to another effortlessly.

That works great for me too.

I'd say the single most important thing in how I use LX and FLASH is
_backups_. Make sure everything is totally backed up at least daily, and keep
all backups forever (a version control system can make this easy).

-Bennett

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:51:12 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP200lx with ACT
Comments: To: Bob Phillips <bobp@fpk.hp.com>, pim <pimlist@onelist.com>,
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True, just whiney, wishfull thinking on my part. I
wrote that just after
reading an article in the new reader's digest. No
Small Claims 4/99 p.99
and watching the local tv program "Town Hall"
discussing Y2k issues.
Several lawyers talking about Y2K legal issues.  I
figured it would be
a lot cheaper than the costs of defending a suit
even one they know would win.

I had figured I'd be all right as it worked OK for
January 2000 I had not checked 2/29.
<Large sigh>

Bob Phillips wrote:
>
> In article <36EAE8DF.F82296E6@uswest.net>,
>  you write:
>
> |> Anyone know anything about lawsuits?  My ACT! for
> |> hp manual is dated 1992.
> |> Since the HP200lx is still being made and sold I
> |> would think a good case
> |> could be made for Symantec to offer a Y2K fix for
> |> the Act! for palmtops 1.1.1
> |>
> Do you ever bother to read the licensing agreements associated with most
> commercial software?  You probably have no grounds for a lawsuit.  The VAST
> majority of agreements essentially state that the medium for distribution should
> be free from defects and will be replaced if manufacturing defects are found.
> No software maker, to my knowledge, has ever been stupid enough to guarantee that
> a software package will be free from bugs or suited to the purposes of any
> user.  Since part of your case would have to involve how Symantec breached their
> agreement with you, you would need to include the agreement.  The moment a clerk
> reads it, you are out of the lawsuit business...
>
> I'd love to find some way to make Puma update the HP 100/200 LX IntelliSync
> package, but it just isn't going to happen...
>
> I speak for myself, not for HP.
> --
> Robert Phillips            HP NJ Development Lab            VOX:(973)-443-7669
> bobp@fpk.hp.com            300 Campus Drive                 FAX:(973)-443-7432
>                            Florham Park, NJ 07932

--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:27:17 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: LED backlight
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter W. Borders Ýmailto:TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US¨
> Subject: Re: LED backlight
>
> Isn't the candela just a standardization of the older foot-candle
> measure? Originally the foot-candle was just that, the amount of
> light given out by a certain "standard" sized candle, measured at 1
> foot distance. You still see foot-candles listed on some bulbs an
> such. Milla-candelas would be in 1/1000 of a foot candle.
>
>

I think that 1000 millacandellas ( milli....milla...?? ) is equal to 1
foot-candle, so 9500 mcd is 9.5 foot-candles.


Jon

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:35:19 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Dejan Radic writes:

> bended into the left). I'd like to open it, but never had
> the courage to do it. Do you take the faceplate off
> unscrewing the four screws on the bottom (under the rubber
> legs) or you can do it separately, without unscrewing
> anything(and if so, how?)?

It comes off separately--the plate with all the shifted and
calculator functions printed on it is just stuck in with an
adhesive.  If you pry under a corner and carefully lift, it
comes right off.


> I would like you to tell me precisely what the medical
> grade nitrogen is and if I could use 96% alcohol instead.

Nitrogen is a gas.  I used a tank of compressed nitrogen that
was in a lab at work and pointed a jet of it under the keys
to blow out the dirt.  I would not suggest any liquids.

Ted

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Theodore Heise     <theise@netins.net>     West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:07:19 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Battery Low Voltage
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Les,

 > What is the lowest practical voltage that alkaline batteries should be used?

There is good answer. Practical is not taking into effect
your tolerance of pain and fear, and the condition of your
heart. You see, too low, and you can lose tons of data,
programs, and important information. That, in turn, can
cause problems with fear, anxiety, heart murmurs, or even
heart shrieks :) - and so on.

I'll tell you where I get scared: 2.39V. I shut down the
machine NO MATTER WAT at 2.37V.

Your mileage may vary. I think I have an extremely HIGH
tolerance to anxiety, to fear, to severe losses of data,
info etc. and I believe my heart is made of steel and
concrete, fortified by other alloys, and many vitamins.

I think _YOU_ should never go below 2.50V and change out
batteries when you see 2.49V. :)

 > Because of the extra "draw" of flashcards, I've noticed that I corrupt data
 > when saving to my 10MB HP Flash card if batteries are too low.  Is there a
 > different low voltage safety factor when saving to flashcards?

My answer: Don't let the batteries get low. Let's don the
"thinking cap": The flash cards have electronics that
modifies the chemistry on the card to make it look like a
new pattern of bits when you write on them. This takes
energy. In older cards it took a lot of energy. In newer
cards it takes less energy, but it is not _CREATING NEW
ENERGY_. This energy comes, you guessed it, from the
batteries.

IMOH, draggin batteries down to low voltages is a foolish
savings of money!!! I don't know your hourly rate but when
I lose data, I lose big! That means that even at my $2.73
per hour rate, one hour will buy me two good alakilines,
more or less... And my losses take more time than 1 hour to
recover from, then you have to factor in the time in the
rehab, the hospital bill, the cardiolog/concrete
expert/metallurgist, the nurse, medication, and the need to
still but the <>?$#& batteries after all! :)

I am sure the logic here is ironclad and not wasted on you!
So, BUY A SECOND set of batts!

A story is in order: A guy got a bit obssessive once
praying to God to win the Lottery. He really went
overboard!!! He prayed day and night! Finallly, a coud
appeared over him, enveloping him in a shimmering astral
cloak, and a HUGE BOOMING voice thundered: "Joe, this is
GOD!!! I heard you prayers. Now meet me half way - buy a
damn ticket, will you?"

So get a battery pair. Don't scrimp on the cheapest health
insurance plan you can give your information. And get that
Lithium coin battery earlier than 6 years - say change them
over every 6-9 months?! Hehe...

 > Up till now I used the 200LX's internal battery graph, but recently started
 > using Battlog.  Just wondered how low is too low.

Please don't ask me about Battlog. It is not right for me
to discuss a product that competes with our, people will
talk, c'mon now! ...:)


  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:55:44 +0000
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I thought I had heard that password protected zip files were fairly secure???

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:55:21 +0000
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> I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it asks
> you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I don't
> think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
> which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway. This
> obviously only applies to files on the built-in RAM drive and will do
> nothing to protect files on a flashcard.
>

At one time (maybe still) HP's official support channel had a way to
break that password.  You had to contact them, provide proof positive
(fax or letter??) of ownership and they would call you and have you
provide certain info.  Can't recall the manner of getting the key they
fed into a program at their end.  A certain key sequence would provide a
code which they used.  So it was pretty secure, actually.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:46:43 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Ed,

> >>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in applications i
> do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to make place
> for
> more applications?
>
> Yes there is a way to do what you want.  BUT back up the original
> APPMGR.DAT file first.
Ý...¨

After that, can I register more EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:46:39 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
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Hi,

> OK List,
>
> I have attempted to setup Funk Software's Allways for 123 on the 200LX.
>
> I have not been successful. It seems that the software expects to be in the
> C:\_DAT directory. I doubt that most of you have 1 - 1.5 meg available to
> use for this. I also found that setting up a printer is difficult.

Thanks for testing it!
1-1.5 MB on the C: drive... that's too much by far!
But why must it be in c:\_dat?i

Isn't it possible to redirect this path name to another
path on A:?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:38:39 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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Who can I create ONE message in WWW/LX that I whant to send to a LARGE =
number
of people. I whant every body to se whom it has been sent to.

I tried to just ad email adresses in the "To:" field, but it only fitted
a few.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:27:43 -0800
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From:         harvey cohn <ac450@LAFN.ORG>
Subject:      WANT:620 LX AC ADAPTER

I BOUGHT A USED HP 620 LX AND IT IS MISSING THE CHARGER OR AC ADAPTER
WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN ANY USEFUL ACCESSORIES, BUT FIRST I NEED
TO CHARGE THE BATTERY AND START USING IT. PLEASE REPLY TO
ac450@lafn.org   (lower case). thanks.

--
                                 Harv

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:51:09 -0800
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      64 meg problem

I now have my 64 meg 200LX (thanks Thaddeus)!  I love
it, but I have a couple of weird things happening that
I can't figure out. Here's one.

My setup, which I've been using for several months,
has only changed by using the new F: drive (I'm not
swapping c: and f:) instead of A: on my ST 40 meg flash
card.:

Autoexec.bat calls Software Carousel, which loads ipex
and buddy and sysman in work area 1.

I now use my ST 40 meg flash card for back-ups and
have some strange results:

If I boot with the card in, there is no problem, even
though I have deleted cic100 from my autoexec.bat.

If I boot (including SC) without the card, turn it
off, insert card, and turn it on, filer reads the card
fine.  But a dos dir (in a separate work area) looks
like the card is garbage.

If I boot to dos (without card and without SC), dos
dir on the card works ok.

I'm confused! If SC is the problem, why does filer work
in a SC area, and why does dos dir in an SC area work
if I boot with the card in?

Any ideas?

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:37:53 -0800
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      hplx communications problem

As I have recently written the list, I am in search of an email solution that will be the most cost-effective and work with the other ways I have my 200 configured. I have recently run into a baffling problem.

I was using acCIS 3.1, and was still able to get my mail, though I couldn't access forums (the software is antiquated, alas). I hadn't used CIS on my desktop in months, maybe years. A couple of days ago I activated the software on a new desktop and created a new connection through CIS 4.0. After that, my acCIS 3.1 on the palmtop "blew up" and not only couldn't pick up my email -- the palmtop couldn't even find the program, even though Filer says it's still there.

Simultaneously, other connections I'd been making with ease -- like to my ISP through D&A's demo version of WWW/LX, and a Datacomm connection to my bank -- started failing. Most recently, the connection to palmtop.com in California has failed repeatedly.

D&A's WWW/LX is the most helpful interface because it actually tells you what's happening. The message I've gotten recently is "Internal stack overflow." That particular connection attempt freezes the palmtop. (Avi, in case you read this: the LCP connections reads endless arrows down, then maybe one up, then endless arrows down again, until the screen freezes.) The other failures (through palmtop.com and Datacomm) consist of endless "skreeing" noises as the modem tries to connect but can't.

I'm using an EXP Thinfax Modem 14.4. It seems still to be able to send a fax, and tests "OK" through Datacomm. Can anyone guess what happened? Could the acCIS disaster actually have changed a script or setting in the palmtop that applies to all connections? Could the modem have failed quite coincidentally?

I'm stumped. I'd love it if someone could point me in the direction of things to try. The EXP has never been problematic, by the way.

Thanks in advance.

Mina Carson

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:11:51 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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It is now about 8PM Centrakl on Sunday. I have had no messages from the
list since yesterday afternoon.

I checked on news.hplx.net and there are no message their either.

Is the server down? Is it me?

Alan

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:23:59 +0930
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Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
Comments: To: Leurquin@bigfoot.com

Yves Leurquin writes:
> Can you still access these apps through Macro Automation ? Some apps may rely
> on keying E in SysMgr to access Memo for example.

If any do, then they should be rewritten.  There is nothing stopping a
normal user (i.e. one who's not removing things from AppMgr) from adding
an icon before Memo, and assigning E to it (which will be found first).

The usual way that applications access Memo is to use the Memo blue-key
scancode directly (this is how PNR does it, for instance).

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:32:26 +0000
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Philippe -

Pretty sure I got it on SUPER... If not, ket me know and I'll try to
find it or post to SUPER with Mitch's OK.

Brian


> Where did you get "Secure Device"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe :)

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:13:54 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I may have answered part of my own question... I found all about Pocket
Quicken Connect on the Quicken/Intuit website.  It would appear to be
what I want.  However... I can't seem to be able to purchase it nor find
out how much it costs.  Can anyone explain this?  Also, is this product
all it is adverised to be?  Are there any caviats when using it with
the HP200LX?

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 13:40:00 -0600
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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What is the lowest practical voltage that alkaline batteries should be used?

Because of the extra "draw" of flashcards, I've noticed that I corrupt data
when saving to my 10MB HP Flash card if batteries are too low.  Is there a
different low voltage safety factor when saving to flashcards?

Up till now I used the 200LX's internal battery graph, but recently started
using Battlog.  Just wondered how low is too low.

Les

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:10:15 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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test

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:39:58 +0000
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Idealist - ever heard of it?
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Just came across this on a web site. I use Info Select but am
researching Memory Mate.

Anyone ever come across "Idealist". Sounds great! Seems like a version
of Infor Select that will import files!

    For note taking, Idealist from Blackwell Scientific Publishers
offers a full text database that can import common word processor
and database formats.  Bitmaps, faxes, and other images can also
be stored.  Versions exist for Mac, DOS, Windows, and NT, and OS/2
lets you cut and paste from MS Word.  ÝLode Goukens (ps890866
@fpsw.ufsia.ac.be), CARR-L, 10/14/93.¨  The $80 Memory Mate DOS
TSR from Broderbund is simple and cheap, but obsolescent.
InfoSelect for Windows has a lot of nice bells and whistles for
manipulating notes.  See the 4/93 issue of Home Office Computing
on using MM to write a book.  ÝRobin Rowland (eridani@io.org),
10/19/93.¨
Dr Peter Maddern
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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:25:09 +0100
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              Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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From:         Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
Subject:      Re: 'snappier' keys on the 200LX
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>
> I recently experienced a change in the "feel" of the ON
> key.  It did not depress when pushed, but would work if
> I pushed hard.  Following advice shared on this list
> (thanks folks!) I lifted the faceplate off from around
> the keys and found a crumb (corn meal chunk?) under the
> key.  I lifted each key while directing a stream of
> medical grade nitrogen under it.  It works great now!

I've been using intensively my 200LX for 5 years and I
feel that there is much dirt and dust under the faceplate.
Some keys, even after a soft touch, make the snapping
sound and the Space key seems to have lost one leg (it is
bended into the left). I'd like to open it, but never had
the courage to do it. Do you take the faceplate off
unscrewing the four screws on the bottom (under the rubber
legs) or you can do it separately, without unscrewing
anything(and if so, how?)?

I would like you to tell me precisely what the medical
grade nitrogen is and if I could use 96% alcohol instead.
I also didn't understand well the part about pouring the
nitrogen - did you pour it on the surface under the key or
on the back of the key?

Thanks in advance.

Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:51:33 -0600
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Hi.
   I've just written a small DOS program to unload Fiji and Toshiba
digital cameras using the serial port. This should work on the HP200.
Unfortunately, I can't find my home made serial cable at the moment, so
I can't try it on the HP. If anyone would like to help me test this, let
me know and I'll mail you a beta copy. This is going to be freeware.  It
should work on the Fuji MX-500, 600 and 700, and the Toshiba PDR-1
cameras. It may work on all of  the Fuji cameras and all of the Toshiba
PDR series, I don't know.

Where can I get a serial cable cheap, anyway?

-Thanks, Bryan

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:00:45 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> After some consideration, I think, the serial port would be the
> better solution, because of three reasons:
>
> 1 - no palmtop manipulation needed
> 2 - could be controlled by software (serial power on/off)
> 3 - a fixed plug is more appropriate for use with a
>     flexible connected LED than a rotating connection.

I've made my own serial port plug with a few hardware
parts costing about 3 US$.

Russell Markus asked me if I could send him the instructions
how to build this thing, if others are interested, I could send
these instructions to anyone else, too.
I have't prepared the 'instruction mail' yet, but I hope,
I have soon the time to do it.
I cannot send it to the list, because I will include
some pictures.

I have the idea to build such a plug, attach a flexible
double-wire to it's '+' and '-' connector and at the end
of the wire is the LED soldered.
It  could look like this:

   ----O
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
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   |
   |
   |
   ----E

O       = LED,
E       = Plug
- and | = flexible wire

Stefan Peichl's 'LXPRO' could switch the LED on and off with
the 'COM1 channel' switch.

> Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?

Unfortunately I don't know. But if it's not possible, one
single transistor could solve the problem. The disadvantage:
in this case there must be a direct connection to the batteries
to power the transistor :-(

But maybe it's possible to get 20mA out of the serial port! :-)

How much power does a serial mouse need?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:08:55 +0100
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Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
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Hi Ed and List,

Ed Keefe wrote:
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 6:32 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
>
>
> >>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in
> applications i
> do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to
> make place for more applications?
>
> Yes there is a way to do what you want.
>
Great! I was looking for that some days ago.

>  BUT back up the original APPMGR.DAT file first.
>
You meant: Backup the whole C: drive first - or?

> ....
> Once you make this change there's no "undo" other than wiping
> everything
> from the C: drive and rebuilding the machine. Hence the need
> for saving the original file.
>
So the original APPMGR.DAT file is reinstalled?

> How do I know this stuff? Well, I'm writing an article all
> about App Mgr for PTP.
> I've got this program doing some interesting things, e.g. I
> removed the
> icons for all the blue key apps. Who needs 'em when you've
> got the blue
> keys?
>
Right, but for each EXM-icon an EXM-key sequence has to be available.
I don't use F1,F2,.. combinations, since these are reserved for the
EXM applications internally.

There are some additional sequences using F11 and F12 (as you know).

Did someone find a method to install an EXM via it's icon without
'eating up' a key-sequence for that?

Hermann

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Hi all,

after reading about the HP-PIMs for early OMNIBOOKs in this list,
I've checked the PIMs (APPT and PHONE) on my company notebook.
I will use it as a fallback in case I've forgotten my 200LX (happens
about  two times a year).

Coming to the point:

Since PHONE is a data base appl, I've tried to load a GDB file - with
success, but date fields are not displayed. Sort for date seems to
work, but I can't enter dates (on the W98 notebook).

At least I've copied PHONE.EXM to GDB.EXM and changed this file with
an hex-editor (PHONE-Book -> PHONE-GDB, PDB -> GDB, ...) such that
GDB appears in the file select box, and most important: a
PHONE-GDB.INI file is automatically generated for GDB.EXM.

Similarly, mor instantiations of the PHONE-Book appl. can be
generated.

BTW, I have a 'contemporary' backup of the HP-PIMS, it only contains
APP and PHONE.

 Hermann

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Hi all,

after using PRJT200 more intensely, I'm intersted in sharing
experiences with this smalll and effective project management tool
(it's an EXM-application, it's on S.U.P.E.R).

With some project files (MDB-files) the changed calender settings are
not saved - with other MDB-files it's okay.
I observed that, when I tried to setup templates with calender
settings (holidays and off-days) already defined.

I've tried a lot of things, but could not find the reason for that
(may be corrupted MDB-files? how do I generate such a file?)

Thanks in advance!

  Hermann

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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....
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Leonard W. Cavalier wrote:
>
> Excuse me if this response is too ol dor redundant, but I have been out of
> town and am just catching up on e-mail.
>
> First, to answer James' desperate plea, there is a mailing list for WinCE
> devices, and here is some info to get subscribed:
>
> Unsubscribe      <windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Switch to Index  <index-windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Switch to Digest <digest-windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Get Help File    <windowsce-talk-help@lists.hpc.net>
>
> My own opinions: I bought an HPC (Casiopeia A-11) a while ago, as I too was
> enamored of some of the nicer features of the WinCE machines, but I found
> the drawbacks outweighed the improvements, for me.  The backlight was a big
> plus, but then it turned out to run the batteries down too fast, greatly
> limiting its usefuleness.  The faster processor was an attraction, but then
> all the WinCE stuff requries much more processing power and many things ran
> no faster than on my non-upgraded 200LX.  The kicker - I was appalled to
> discover that the Calendar program had no search feature!  The only way to
> find a future (or past) appointment was to march through the daily view, day
> -by-day, or maybe the weekly view, though it was slow to change to the next
> week.  The montlhly view did not show any appointment text.  The 200LX, on
> the other hand, can perform a search, and the monthly view is still without
> equal!  I can only justify carrying a palmtop around everywhere if it can
> adequately handle my organization functions, and the HPC was no just not
> there.  I have the WinCE 2.0 upgrade from Casio, but after almost a year I
> have not been motivated to install it and retry the HPC because the 200LX
> has such superior PIM functions.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Gill ÝSMTP:jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET¨
> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 2:48 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....
> >
> > I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
> > case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
> > note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
> > for the CE machines.
> >
> > Steve D. wrote:
> >
> > > For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> > > using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> > > it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
> > >
> > > I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> > > (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
> > >
> > > My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> > > list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
> > >
> > > Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> > > the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________
> > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet.  Shouldn't you?
> > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
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Steve!! you can get an upgrade from win ce 1.0 to win ce 2.0 from
one-stop palmtop shop

tel: 608-752-1537 or e-mail www.mrpalmtop.com

                Good Luck  Bob1

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:22:19 -0500
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
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OK List,

I have attempted to setup Funk Software's Allways for 123 on the 200LX.

I have not been successful. It seems that the software expects to be in the
C:\_DAT directory. I doubt that most of you have 1 - 1.5 meg available to
use for this. I also found that setting up a printer is difficult.

I guess that's another WYSIWYG possibility that's not practical.

Still, I wouldn't give up my two 200LX's for anything!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Daniel Hertrich
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:43 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
>
>
> Hi list,
>
>
> does anyone have the WYSIWYG-Addon for 1-2-3 running on
> the x00LX?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:12:33 -0300
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Hi anyone has measured the current drained trhougt the batteris in the
hp95 ?

these results are oaky ?

MainBatt   970uA (in off)  33 to 44 (172 peak) mA (in on)

Backup batt 3uA (in off)  3uA (in On)  1500uA (in off without Main Batt)

Note i have expanded the main memory from 512k to 640k adding a 512000
(128kx8 SRAM chip) with a 10k ohm resistor between the VCC and /CE

any comment, will be enjoyed !

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Where did you get "Secure Device"?

It is on SUPER.
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> > Rename that file containing sensitive information to something like
> > "filer.exm" or "command.com". If they ever think about looking inside

> This is a great idea. How in the hell did you come up with?

Sorry, but I don't think it's a good security method.

If you have sensitive data then LOCK it up, don't just HIDE it
and hope someone won't find it.

I use SecureDevice and create a 32k encrypted F: drive.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 18:57:19 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Desqview?

Hi All,

I've been contemplating the purchase of an HP200LX and have been lurking
on this list for quite a while now. I recently had decided upon a used
8MB Doublespeed, but I just had some unexpected good fortune and that has
now translated to a 32MB HP200LX from Thaddeus instead of the 8MB.  I
have Lynn Cavendish's shared insight from an email to thank for that
decision. ;-) Thanks Lynn! :-)

I've found and purchased a new 30MB Sandisk FC and adapter from
www.Buycomp.com for approx $100 (which will work well with my digital
camera too, BTW) and have found an adequate A/C adapter at Radio Shack
(Cat. No 273-1652B) for approx $12 or $13.  I have now finally decided to
break my silence and stick my neck out to ask a question.

I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
on my HP200LX and have been watching many comment on how much they like
SC for task switching. I used to run a BBS and used Desqview extensively.
Will Desqview 386 or an earlier version work on the HP200LX? If so, it
seems to me that Desqview (as an actual quasi multitasker) would be much
more powerful than SC.

Also, I plan to see if I can develop a convenient way to hot synch my
HP200LX's DOS software with the same software on my desktop PC using a
simple network and some freeware file utilities, much like the way the
PalmPilot can do a hot synch.

I've recently found a supply of shells from the old "Station 100" too, so
I ordered one. (Sadly, the Station 100 is now out of production.) I would
like to use that as a base for a hot synch cradle. Who knows what I'll
come up with. :-)

If anyone else has some comments and/or some personal experience with
these things, I'd be interested in hearing from you. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
President of DataVault Co.
A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:59:36 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I am getting back into some serious Quicken use, and have the following
software at my disposal (i.e, I own them):

  - Pocket Quicken in my HP200LX's ROM
  - Quicken for DOS version 7.0
  - Quickent 98 Basic Edition, Created for Windows 95 Release 7.0

In the past, I've exchanged data back and forth from the DOS version
and my palmtop.  I recently acquired the windows edition with my new
home computer.  I was able to transfer data one-way, and haven't
explored the reverse direction.  Can some of you Quicken experts
tell me what the options/possibilities are with the new Windows
version and my palmtop?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:55:10 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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For those interested in Agenda I came across the following site:

http://cgi.chicago.tribune.com/tech/columns/article/0,1710,389,00.html

It is a four part article from the Chicago Tribune, July 1998, about
Agenda.  I haven't read it, but it appreas to be part of a series on
technologies that never caught on. I found the article linked from an
article on PIMs on the SALON website.

Alan

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:38:23 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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>
> > PS.  Beware that Act! for HP 1.1.1 is not y2k compliant.
>
> but after your PS I checked out 2/29/2000  and it
> wouldn't do it.
>
> I'll just have to find something else, assuming
> Symantec won't provide a fix.

Anyone know anything about lawsuits?  My ACT! for
hp manual is dated 1992.
Since the HP200lx is still being made and sold I
would think a good case
could be made for Symantec to offer a Y2K fix for
the Act! for palmtops 1.1.1

All that would be needed is a reason to justify
the costs incurred in reworking
the code again.

They made a FREE tool for Palm Pilot users to work
with ACT! In that case they wanted
the marketing edge. I would bet they would want to
avoid the bad press associated
with abandoning their users.

I bet the costs of defending even a small claims
court case, even assuming
symantec wins, would be less then the costs of
fixing the code.  The bad PR


--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:07:43 +0000
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Happy to be Back!
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At 08:11 AM 3/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Mine came from being hit by a car when I was 10 years old.  I landed on my
>head (okay, okay...) and sustained neck injuries which in later years
>manifested themselves as a tremor.  They were and still are not severe
>enough to keep me from flying airplanes and gliders but are severe enough to
>keep me from 'flying' on the PalmPilot. The WriteRight product from
Concept Kitchen helped a bit but was still unsatisfactory.  The face of the
PalmPilot is very slick and tremors in the hand and fingers translate to
odd squiggles that the Graffiti software
>translates erroneouslly or can't translate at all.  For example, an intended
>'e' might come out as an 's' or an 'a' come out as an 'm'.

Thanks for this detailed information.  The idea of a Palmpilot had sounded
intriguing, but I had suspected that its performance would not live up to
its promise, especially in this area.  Thanks for confirming my intuitions.
 It sounds as if we both have the same reason for purchasing the 200LX!

Regards,

David Ball

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:32:41 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I would like to enhance the ability to edit documents in a more compatib=
le
> format with MS Word 97 on my desktop.  Memo is ok, but only for initial
> drafts.  I'm assuming that I would need significantly more memory to =
run an
> MS Word compatible program.  I'm also assuming that a Flash card alone =
would
> not suffice.

If you get the memory upgrade, you can set up part of it for use as EMM
which allows programs like WordPerfect 5.1 to load much larger documents =
than
with a flashcard alone.  Depending too much on a flash card can also
limit your options for using the PCMCIA port with devices like a modem,
parallel port card, or ethernet card.

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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?

Unfortunately you can't even come close to 20ma from the serial port.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:42:04 -0500
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Hi,

Sorry if this is WAY old news but I've been gone for a while.  I've been
looking at compact flash cards with Type II adapters.  Will they work in the
HP 200LX?

Thanks,

Bill

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:14:32 -0500
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>Has anyone done any mechanical mods to their doubleslot to make the
>expanse of bare PWB between the dblslot box and the palmtop more
>sturdy?  Mine has just a bit too much flexure to make me comfortable.
>I've been toying with some ideas to strengthen it, but thought I'd
>ask first.

When I got mine, I had a couple of questions for Accurite and asked them
about that, all the tech really said was that they had never had one
returned
due to being snapped in half. I think one of those SNAP-on things might
make a base that you could use to support the doubleslot if you snapped
it on a little to the left.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:54:24 -0500
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Avi,
You wrote:
<snip>
>Welcome back.
<snip, snip>
Thank you.  I'll be back to software market (much more reasonably priced)
soon.  I don't know if you've followed the Palm III software market at all
but the equivalent of Time Tracker (Iambic's TimeReporter)costs $109 and
there is no equivalent of WWWLX at all.  Two products (@ $49.95 ea.) give
you a text based Web capability and an Email client but no newsgroups.
Anyway, thanks for the greeting.

Bill

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:32:43 -0800
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Longden,

 > Your settings are a bit different than mine, but that alone shouldn't cause the
 > lockup you saw (which may be unrelated to ABC/LX). D&A may be better able to
 > comment on that, but you probably want to see if the problem persists first.

I think his problems were tht he was using ABCDEMO past its
time. That demo functions fine for 30 User Hours (more than
clock time) and then commits suicide.

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Reinhard:

 > Another newly discovered application for the LX!
 > Is there an program which starts charging at a given time? I want to
 > use my lx as a time bomb.

Hey, I have an idea about it, but I won't post it. I don't
want to be wanted by FBI, German State Security, and
Interpol! :)

Please use someone else's software! :-)

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 21:29:34 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 11:32 PM 12/03/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Got a URL or other reference?
Hi David & list

No URL..  The software is from Broderbund.. Dont know if they may release
this version to public or still copywrite/abandonware.  I have a manual and
software copywrite 1987-89.

Try Broderbund Software..
17 Paul Drive San Rafael CA 94903-2101  Tel 415-492-3500  NB  This info is
12 years old.

Hope this helps.

If you find them post to the list?

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:08:40 +0000
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I'm amazed by the feedback of my LED front/backlight suggestion.

I like Phil Drummond's statement: "belive me, it's quite
bright", because this gives hope, that it can be done.

Competition is very welcome! Several solutions for different
needs should be tried and indeed results should be exchanged
concerning the best source/brand for LEDs and other needed
parts.

I propose three approaches

1 - no palmtop modification
2 - slight palmtop modifications
3 - heavy palmtop modifications (concerning the screen)

I personally would prefer a detachable solution without palmtop
modification, because I don't like to send my palmtop in. Also
costs could be higher for approach 1, because no palmtop
shipping fees occur, and a nice (black) design of a stylus like
flexible LED light could even decorate the palmtop.

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Neill,

 > Ienjoyed reading your list so much,but,being such a junky myself,I just
 > can't bring myself to buy yet more computers             Neill
 > At 03:55 PM 3/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
 > >I being a bit of a gadget junkie have accumulated quite a few handhelds
 > >and related devices that are not seeing use and could use a good home,

   Ý...¨

Then you proceeded to quote the entire long post. Whatfor?
Please try to be considerate and refrain for quoting
unnecessarily. Many of us use palmtops with limited
storage. Connections cost money andtime too. Long posts
with zip content are at best a nuisance.

Let me tell you a story: Once we had many people here who
provided a lot of support, and insight and experience. But
the denizens generally showed the same amount of
consideration you did in quoting an unnecessary post in
their ENTIRETY.

These people poste a few pleas for consideration. Things
got a little better, then deteriorated again. many of these
invaluable resources (people with lots of experience)
simply logged off the list... It is simply annoying and
bothersome.

So we lost them for some time, Some are back, but not all.
Among the main reasons for not getting into this list is
the annoyance of enless, thoughtless, and inconsiderate
quoting.

This is coming back, and it jeopardises the value of this
list to all of us - and that includes YOU! One day, you'll
be stuck with a question and one will know the answer
except that one expert who could not stand the overquoting
and left. So there you are, screwed! And by whom? Yourself.

I am not signling you out because I have an ax to grind
with you, but because it is so obviously flagrant and
thoughtless. In this you represent many people here and so
I send this message to you.

This by way of a plea to you, and to EVERYONE ELSE HERE who
quotes with no discrimination and no thought: Please,
please use your good brain, and quote what is necessary to
make your message clear!!! The rest is luggage, heavy,
unnecessary, in the class of junk mail, spam, whatever...

Thank you!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Laust,

 > I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it asks
 > you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I don't
 > think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
 > which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway. This
 > obviously only applies to files on the built-in RAM drive and will do
 > nothing to protect files on a flashcard.

If you use one of Mack's wonder-boards, then its content
will survive the cold reboot! The original C:\ drive will
be toasted, but very likely the the 32MB or 64MB RAM will
survive intact.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:45:52 -0800
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My views on the weaknesses of the WinCE are well known, so
I won't mince words. I think it is named aptly: a desktop
companion. It needs the desktop for most of its functions.

That is a major drawback, since many people need to be less
tethered to the desktop, it is simply no longer the
paradigm for the way people work...

The backlight and batteries mismatch is a symptom, not just
a phenomenon! There is a great deal of piecemeal thought
reflected in the design of these machines. There is really
not a unfied design, some grand plan, that you can see.

Let me give you examples:

1. There is a small word processor. The machine is pushed
hard in Europe and South America. Yet, guess what? No
accented characters! You cannot produce them on the
keyboard! Sure, you can download a file with all accents
from the desktop and then clip the stuff and paste. So much
for thought going into the machine.

2. We are now on the fifth iteration of the operating
system. It has grown from what 2MB to 8MB or something like
that. How much was really added in features? 400%? Nah!
Some marginal stuff... Someone is not thinking, just piling
stuff... Maybe something will hit.

3. Excell macros won't run -

4. PowerPoint presentations: Great feature - but you cannot
modify them, only run the presentations. What about last
minute adjustments? I made 4 presentations on palmtops in
the last week of February. I updated three of them on the
morning of the presentation!!! Two were updated about 3
minutes before the speech began!

5. Dialup: No Scripts? Sheesh... CHAP is good, but still
not everyone uses it! Compuserve, many smaller ISPs...

6. Appointment book: You gave the example of search. Here
is another:

You are in your office in San Jose, California. You call
your buddy in NYC and make an appointment to meet him at
11.45am at some location on some date in the future when
you'll be making your monthly visit to NYC.

You also call your friend in London (8 hours ahead of you)
and make an appointment to meet him at 8.45pm in London on
some future date.

Your entries:

  Meet with Jack, Empire Steak Bldg 11.45am April 12, 1999
  Meet with Joe, Buckingham Palace 8.45am April 14, 1999

Good. Now you wind your way to NYC, and adjust the clock to
3 hours forward (you are going from PPST zone to EST zone.
You know what? Your appointment with Jack is now at 14.45pm
April 12.

When you get to London, your meeting is moved to 4.45pm.

Enjoy! Some dimwit way to manage a calendar! I wish this
machine was bigger, I 'd use it as a planter! Right now it
is too small even for miniature Bonsai trees! :) ...

7. Size. This is a HANDHELD - whay are they so heavy and so
large?

'nuff!!!!

Again and again: The thought stopped at some point, and
there is feeling that stuff is just thrown together because
"The Dumb Masses will buy the dreck!" Let me hasten to say,
not everyone is dumb because they got this machine. It fits
in some workstyles PERFECTLY!!! (I even made that point
take 25% of one of my presentations in February!!!) But the
marketing is to much more mobile people, and they get
awfully disappointed and cannot even get a refund in many
cases - another dead chuck of platic and silicone.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:46:17 -0800
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 > I have started using 1300mah Nimh batteries over the last couple of weeks
 > and I thought I would try out ABC to see how it would handle charging them.
 > So a week and a half ago I set ABC to Autotune my batteries and came up with
 > the following settings:

Are you aware that the ABCDEMO will word for only 30 hours
USER-Time? (usertime is counted minute by minute. Each
minute you press the keyboard at least once, is considered
in the usertime count.)

 > course stopped the charge cycle which I now have restarted manually. I have
 > a 30Mb flash disk installed. Could it be that the drain of the flash card and

How much does your flash draw?

 > very low batteries is too much for the palmtop? What is a good starting
 > voltage for these batteries? I would welcome any suggestions before I buy
 > the software. (Are you reading this Avi ? :-)

Yes, I am reading it. The question is is 2.50V a good
voltage to start? Well, yes... You can use anything within
reason. The point of when to start is dual:

1. It reverses the voltage indication to give you a visual
warning that the chosen threshold was reached.

2. It means that you can get into a habit of leaving the
battery charged to no less than xyz. I used to use 2.53
because from experience, I had enough left in the battery
then to last me until I got to another adapter. It left me
with some margin of work sufficient for my pattern of work.

>.45 was too low, it left me with about 3 hours, and my
average "excursions" were longer than that. At 2.53V I had
about 5 hours range before the battery was too low.


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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:46:07 -0800
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Dear Mina,

 > Yes, I want to echo Bill's relief at returning to the HPLX.

Welcome back! A long time no see your name around palmtops!

 > I tried Psion Series 5 for two months. It's a beautiful machine with a lot of class and some really interesting software. I thought it would be a longterm relationship. Then one day I developed a twelfth need for a database to accompany eleven others
,
 > and began intensely missing my 200LX.

Interesting. The Psion and PalmPilot as well as the 200LX
are the only machines that are now offering _any_ measure
of self-sufficient computing on the go!

I agree that the 200LX is superior, but the other two
certainly give something of that.

Would you (and Bill) be able to compare your "other"
machines (Psion and Palmpilot respectively) to a WinCE?
Maybe you have that experience.

Perhaps some one else can do it?

Nice to hear from you again.

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Bill,

 > After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
 > I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
 > 200LX.

Welcome back.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:56:58 +0100
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>I'd like to see any good screenshots of the 200LX screen while
>running one of its major applications.  Preferably camerashots.


On monday you can get some URL of some nice screenshots of:
- the major apps on LX
- MS Flight Simulator 4.0 on LX
- WordPerfect 5.1 on LX
- PlanPerfect 5.1 on LX (spreadsheet-brother of WordPerfect)

etcetera

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:54:55 +0100
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Subject:      Re: 200LX Upgrade (was Happy to be Back!)
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>I am aware that Flash memory is slower than standard RAM and that there is
a
>theoretical limit to read/write cycles.
>
>So, David, on which disk (RAM or Flash) do you put programs and which do
you
>put data?  Why?


I'm not David, but I can tell you, that my Viking Compact Flash 32MB Disk is
faster than the C:-Drive. A lot of people on this list told, that Flash RAM
is slower
than C:. Perhaps the Compact Flash of Viking is another standard. But it was
real Plug n Play. Put it in and work with the A:-Drive.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:51:28 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Wish I could run Freelance Graphics on my LX
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>I bet you need to lose the EMS driver there.  Unless your program _must_
>have EMS, you are probably losing the needed RAM to the driver for EMS.
>If the program has to have EMS and you still do not have enough memory
>(take a look with MEM) then no amount of upgrade will help you out.  The
>memory upgrades for the HP200LX only increase your static storage.  640k
>is the limit for XMS on an HPxDOSLX palmtop.


The 640k on a PC/XT is not XMS. It is Conventional Memory. XMS is
Extended Memory, EMS is Expanded Memory. There is a way to get
Expanded Memory on the LX: The little EMS tool EMS200 can emulate
EMS on your RAM-Disk (on C: or the flash card). I never get it to work,
it always tells me "non-contiguous space" or so. I did defragmentation a
lot.
Perhaps somebody on the list can help me.

If EMS works, I will try to install QRAM (a software of Quarterdeck).
With QRAM you can make loadhigh and devicehigh even on a PC/XT,
BUT: there has to be EMS .....

So, any suggestions?

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:42:31 +0100
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>Get WordPerfect 5.1 or LetterPerfect


FYI: LetterPerfect is the lite version of WordPerfect 5.1.
It is a very good program too.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:38:29 +0100
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> HP, please update the 200lx design and keep on producing it.


As Avi told some time ago: They won't, because M$ sucked their
brain off ...

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Password protection
Comments: To: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>

Philippe Lewis writes:
> If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based
> password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200?
> Preferably System Manager compliant...

I now use SecureDevice 1.4 to keep my "password ring" data secure. It
uses the IDEA cryptographic algorithm (which is secure enough for my
limited bank balance). I think it's on SUPER, and I know that it's
Open Source as I have recompiled it myself to ensure there are no
viruses or backdoors.

I followed the instructions to set up a volume, on which I store .txt,
.ndb and .wk1 files which hold my sensitive information.

In my config.sys file, I have the line:

  device=c:\_sys\secdev.sys c:\rwhitby.!@# /t5

This makes the volume appear as a drive in Filer (and therefore
available to SysMgr applications, as well as DOS applications), and
sets the auto-logout to 5 minutes.

The I use DosLine under MoreEXM to call the login.exe program so I can
type in the password to access the secure H: drive.

After I finish accessing the H: drive, the password expires after five
minutes.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:07:04 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.

Ed Keefe writes:
> >>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in applications i
> do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to make place
>
> Yes there is a way to do what you want.  BUT back up the original
> APPMGR.DAT file first.

> I've got this program doing some interesting things, e.g. I removed the
> icons for all the blue key apps. Who needs 'em when you've got the blue
> keys?

Way cool!  Not only did I croak the blue keys, I croaked a
bunch of the Ctrl-Blue keys I have memorized.  Thanks Ed!

At one point I would use the AppMgr to check and see which
apps were actually open, but I quit doing that a while back.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:33:42 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

     The Feb 99 logs are now available via a link from the "HPLX Command
Center". Sorry for the delay.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:33:44 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

     I have noted more than the usual requests for deletion from the
HPLX-L. At least some of you have switched to Dave Sargeant's mirror.
I would suggest you request that you be switched to NoMail, otherwise
you will not be able to post to the list.

Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:39:48 -0600
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From:         "Stanley A. Gall, Jr." <sagall@IBM.NET>
Organization: 123
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to all

after much frustration and consternation, I now have made connection to
M$98 on the desktop easy and reliable.  The secret was to make sure that
the HPLX boots not from D: ( where it tries to go automatically) but
from C: where you have your altered and tuned autoexec.bat  and config
sys files.  Critical in the autoexec files is that you DO NOT have
laplink remote activated.  All of the detail with FIFO buffers i think
has littel to do with these problems.  When I finally got this out of
startup ,  WINFILE works like a dream.  Also, my infrared communication
between twin HPLX machines worked as well.  Appreciate all of your help.

Stan Gall

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:00:54 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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There were questions about where this modem was available - Mobile
Planet has them. I ordered one, and it works fine, but I am returning
it as they no longer have the SimpleJack version available. I would
rather have a slower download capability and not have to carry a
"dongle" to connect from the side of the PCMCIA card to the phone
lines. Following info is FYI:
1-800-MPLANET  or www.mplanet.com

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:19:55 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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From:         Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
Subject:      New idea for Super AppMgr - Was: Re: removing built-in apps from
              App Mgr
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Ed Keefe wrote:

> HOWEVER there's always the possibility
> that you could have several APNAME.lst files and swap them and reset the
> machine to load a new set of EXMs. This is something to think about and it
> isn't easy since App Mgr seems to create the Apname.lst files on closing
> but it doesn't purge the files from App Mgr itself.

Hmn. And unless I'm mistaken (it happens), swapping custom sets of APNAME.LSTs
plus APPMGR.DATs together gives you complete control over which .EXMs and which
DOS applications appear when you run the Application Manager.

So, for example, you can set up different program groups for Work, Home, Games,
Internet, My Hobby, Utilities etc., each with its own APNAME.LS1/APPMGR.DA1,
APNAME.LS2/APPMGR.DA2, APNAME.LS3/APPMGR.DA3 etc.

Then all you need is a simple customizable menu program, mapped to the Ý&...¨
key, which presents you with a choice of program groups. Pick the one you want,
for example: 3.-Games ...and the menu program copies APNAME.LS3 and APPMGR.DA3
to APNAME.LST and APPMGR.DAT, then runs the Application Manager.

Ed, I think you may have come up with an idea for a very useful application
(unless the above is completely wrong, in which case all the blame goes to me)!

So, who is the intrepid soul who will write this application for us?

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:30:34 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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From:         Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Here's another idea in the "slight palmtop modifications" category:

A small 2 prong plug and socket , similar to the ones used to connect the
CPU fan to the motherboard.

The idea would go like this:

1. Glue the socket on the underside of the palmtop where the "12V" diagram
for the power supply is etched on the case.
2. Connect the socket to the battery through a square indentation filed on
the battery door.
3. Glue additional rubber feet so that the palmtop doesn't wobble.
3. Build a little pen-like led light like stefan is proposing -- except that
it plugs in the new socket.

So there might be variations on that theme, but if there isn't enough power
from the serial port, this migth do.

Philippe :)

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:23:38 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Quicken on HPHAND
Content-Type: text

I hear from another list member that the experts on HPHAND have arrived
at a solution for transferring HP200's Pocket Quicken's files back and
forth to modern, Windows versions of Quicken using batch files and QIF
data files.  As I don't have easy access to HPHAND anymore since they
eliminated ASCII support, I can't get to these archived messages.  Does
anyone have these messages archived somewhere that they could send me?
Or maybe these are posted on the web somewhere?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:21:31 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
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On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, James P. Grenert wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Theodore Heise wrote:
> > At one point I would use the AppMgr to check and see which
> > apps were actually open, but I quit doing that a while back.
> >
> If you still like to be able to check to see what's open, get TaskList
> from SUPER.

Must really be a great program--yours is the third suggestion
of it I've gotten.  Actually, I quit using AppMgr to check
because I just *know* now (most of the time) what's open.

Thanks for the ideas, fellows.  Great to have the list back
up, I hadn't realized how much I would miss it.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:15:53 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
Comments: To: Theodore Heise <theise@netins.net>
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On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Theodore Heise wrote:
> At one point I would use the AppMgr to check and see which
> apps were actually open, but I quit doing that a while back.
>
If you still like to be able to check to see what's open, get TaskList
from SUPER.  It is like the Task Manager on Windows 3.1, showing you
what's open and allowing you to switch to any of those programs, close
them (including Filer), close all.  It also includes directions on how to
use it in conjunction with Key200 (built-in on your D: drive) so that it
even uses the same CTRL-ESC combination as used in Windows.
It is another GREAT, tiny, .EXM utility from the fine folks in Japan.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:14:05 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Pocket Quicken Connect - WTB
Content-Type: text

Well, it would appear that Pocket Quicken Connect is dead.  Does
anyone have a copy they want to sell?

<soapbox> When I called Intuit, it would seem that they have abandoned
support for *all* their pocket quicken products, not just that for the
HP200LX.  What kind of intelligent decision is this?  To me, having
the capability to make financial entries from a pocket computer of any
kind would make their main financial software significantly more
useful.  Anyone know the full story here?  Something doesn'd seem
right... </soapbox>

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:43:39 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
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Hi,

has anyone tried to connect the HP 100/200 LX to a ISP
or something else using the Ericson SH888 mobile phone
(it has a built-in modem with IR-interface, as far as
I know)?

GT
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:35:04 +0100
Reply-To:     -goe- <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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<snip>
If you get the memory upgrade, you can set up part of it for use as EMM
which allows programs like WordPerfect 5.1 to load much larger documents than
with a flashcard alone.
</snip>

It doesn't matter, because if you have no EMS, WP will create a larger
Tempfile.
Where? On the RAM-Drive, so it doesn't matter, because RAM is RAM. Perhaps the
speed will be different, but the guys of good ol'WP coded the possibility of
loading files limited only by disk storage.

-goe-

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:14:32 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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From:         Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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>Has anyone done any mechanical mods to their doubleslot to make the
>expanse of bare PWB between the dblslot box and the palmtop more
>sturdy?  Mine has just a bit too much flexure to make me comfortable.
>I've been toying with some ideas to strengthen it, but thought I'd
>ask first.

When I got mine, I had a couple of questions for Accurite and asked them
about that, all the tech really said was that they had never had one
returned
due to being snapped in half. I think one of those SNAP-on things might
make a base that you could use to support the doubleslot if you snapped
it on a little to the left.

Darren

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:46:43 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Comments:     To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
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Hi Ed,

> >>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in applications i
> do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to make place
> for
> more applications?
>
> Yes there is a way to do what you want.  BUT back up the original
> APPMGR.DAT file first.
Ý...¨

After that, can I register more EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:46:05 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Bill,

 > After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
 > I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
 > 200LX.

Welcome back.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:46:39 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
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Hi,

> OK List,
>
> I have attempted to setup Funk Software's Allways for 123 on the 200LX.
>
> I have not been successful. It seems that the software expects to be in the
> C:\_DAT directory. I doubt that most of you have 1 - 1.5 meg available to
> use for this. I also found that setting up a printer is difficult.

Thanks for testing it!
1-1.5 MB on the C: drive... that's too much by far!
But why must it be in c:\_dat?i

Isn't it possible to redirect this path name to another
path on A:?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:01:23 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Irving Ian Liao <ianliao@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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From:         Irving Ian Liao <ianliao@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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Hey Raffaele,

    It's abt time, from the time I had my 6MB/DS model, I
always felt I didn't have enuff space.
The power consumption as far as I know is pretty much the
same.  The only difference is the PCMCIA Type II will fit
directly into the LX while the compact flash requires a
PCMCIA TYPE II adaptor (which should cost abt US$7).
IMHO, more MEM is NOT a bad thing... .

    That looks like a pretty good price...I paid abt US$178
(with the adaptor and shipping) abt 6mths back.
And BTW, your English is FINE... .

Cheers,
irVIng
--
"Well, so the dream wasn't all that peaceful. Besides, I
don=92t dream in color, so why should my palmtop?"

Team LX200 - (True) Mobile computing in the palm of your
hand... .
UIN: 1190060  URL: http://w3.to/vi
--

>I've been the proud owner of a 2mb Hp200lx for 3 years.
>Now I've finally decided to buy a flash card: I'd like to
run TeX,
>DataPerfect, Gnuplot and some other piece of software on
it.
>I think that the question is "newbie-rated", but I've never
faced this
>kind of problem before, so I need your help: is the power
consumption
>of a Compact Flash Card the same as Ata PCMCIA Type II
flash Card
>(same brand, sandisk)?
>I'd like to buy a 48Mb Compact Flash (as low as 125 bucks,
take a
>look at www.shopper.com and search for sandisk).

>                                Thanks a lot
>                                Raffaele Gaioni

>Note: Excuse me for my poor English... :)

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              Irving Ian Liao <ianliao@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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Hi all,
    I have 6MB/DS HP200LX upgraded (I assume) by Times2Tech
as I see the spd31.sys in a dir - c:\upg.  I purchased this
pre-owned set from someone abt 3 yrs ago.

    Now unlike most people I know locally who have a
upgraded set as well when you do ctrl-alt-del (or
ctrl-shift-on), I don't get a normal screen which can be
read.  Mine looks pretty garbled to me - aka the words are
in somekind of form, not English... .

    Now, I was hoping to run minix off the LX and the advice
is to unload spd31.sys. I find this to be true as my set
locks up whenever I do a minix boot with the spd31.sys
file.  However, without the spd31.sys, I can't make out
anything as the characters go "berzerk".  I was also hoping
to get my LX to boot from A: but the alt menu is not legible
so I can't make out which option I'm supposed to choose.

    Now can anyone help by telling me what causes this and
if there's anything I can do abt it?

Thanks ppl,
irVIng
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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:44:21 -0500
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All seems to be okay for the moment, no movement in the crack due to the
glued on brass strips.  Hopefully there will be no further incident because
I worked on it before the hinge broke off completely.  Preventive
maintenance is s heckuva lot easier than fixing something that's broke.

Watch your right hinge, and if you're not sure where to look,
http://www.hplx.net in the hardware hacking section has a picture of where
to look.  About 2mm down from the beveled edge of the top lid near the
right hinge, it looks like a hair on the palmtop at first, but watch it
carefully.  And if your lid is really tight, losen it up with a tiny amount
of some lubricant, but use a tiny amount or it'll be floppy.

All in all, it doesn't look bad..  I scratched the right brass plate and
should have buffed it out, but I worked the steel wool for 10 minutes
without much change, so I gave up.  :)  And I managed to get them offset,
both is hugging the lefthand side of the flat area, rather than both on the
outside, inside, or middle.  Oh well.  I made really sure I got the edges
and corners really smooth so it wouldn't hang going into my jacket pocket
or my ripoff-like case I carry it in when I'm not wearing the jacket,
hasn't snagged yet.

Must sleep...  Cheers.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 21:29:34 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 11:32 PM 12/03/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Got a URL or other reference?
Hi David & list

No URL..  The software is from Broderbund.. Dont know if they may release
this version to public or still copywrite/abandonware.  I have a manual and
software copywrite 1987-89.

Try Broderbund Software..
17 Paul Drive San Rafael CA 94903-2101  Tel 415-492-3500  NB  This info is
12 years old.

Hope this helps.

If you find them post to the list?

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:53:21 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> If you use one of Mack's wonder-boards, then its content
> will survive the cold reboot! The original C:\ drive will
> be toasted, but very likely the the 32MB or 64MB RAM will
> survive intact.

Mack: how is this 'wonder-board' mounted? Is there a socket
in the LX where it is simply plugged onto?

I ask because it would be great if I could make such an
upgrade on my own, because I'm living in Germany and I
don't want to send my palmtop over the large, large sea...

If it's interesting for this: I have a German 200LX 4MB
with S/N SG71800603.

Thanks,
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:53:13 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi

> I propose three approaches
>
> 1 - no palmtop modification
> 2 - slight palmtop modifications
> 3 - heavy palmtop modifications (concerning the screen)

Seems like 1 isn't possible since Mack said that we cannot
draw 20mA out of the serial port! :-((
Maybe there is a LED needing less power with aceptable light
power?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:53:09 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Mack,

> > Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?
>
> Unfortunately you can't even come close to 20ma from the serial port.

:-((
How much is possible? Maybe we can power a smaller LED?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:53:00 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and its "To:" Field.
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Hi,

> Who can I create ONE message in WWW/LX that I whant to send to a LARGE
> number
> of people. I whant every body to se whom it has been sent to.

There is the possibility to send a mail to a list of addresses
by creating a address list file (I think each line one address)
and inserting 'file:filename.xxx' in the To: field (filename.xxx
is the filename of your list file!).
But read the documentation of Post/LX, there is described how to
do it exactly!

(Hi Avi! ;-)) )

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:52:56 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Question
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Hi,

I use the Sandisk CF 48MB and it works great!
And I know that I'm not the only one who thinks so.

The battery life of my palmtop isn't very decreased
by the compact flashh card.


> Dear Palmtopppers,
> I've been the proud owner of a 2mb Hp200lx for 3 years.
> Now I've finally decided to buy a flash card: I'd like to run TeX,
> DataPerfect, Gnuplot and some other piece of software on it.
> I think that the question is "newbie-rated", but I've never faced this
> kind of problem before, so I need your help: is the power consumption
> of a Compact Flash Card the same as Ata PCMCIA Type II flash Card
> (same brand, sandisk)?
> I'd like to buy a 48Mb Compact Flash (as low as 125 bucks, take a
> look at www.shopper.com and search for sandisk).
>
>                                 Thanks a lot
>                                 Raffaele Gaioni
>
> Note: Excuse me for my poor English... :)

mine isn't better... :-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:27:17 -0500
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              "Darryl W. Daniell" <udanja@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I have a 30Mb Sandisk Compactflash card that I ordered from  PCMall in
August of 98. I paid $175.00 with the adapter then.  It has been working
great.  I have a doublespeed 8Mb upgraded palmtop.

Bill Sprague wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry if this is WAY old news but I've been gone for a while.  I've been
> looking at compact flash cards with Type II adapters.  Will they work in the
> HP 200LX?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:04:46 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
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Hi All:

     Yes, I was out of town...got stuck due to weather, and just got
back late last night. I haven't really monitored the LIST since
Saturday, when it seems the problems started. I know one server was
down for a while Saturday(the one hosting the HPLX Command Center), but
everything else should have been OK. There were some sporatic power
outages in the area as well, which might have contributed to the
problem.

Hopefully this is cleared up.

Cheers,


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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:16:24 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Hello?!

  If this mailing list has failed to send activity to everyone else for
the same period of time, then I apologize in advance for this unnecessary
post which was prompted by an amazing coincidence.

  After lurking and learning from this list for quite a while, I finally
stuck my neck out and actually posted my VERY FIRST message to this list
on Saturday the 13th...

  Well, it is now Tuesday (3 days since the 13th), and I have yet to get
a single digest from this list, since my post. Was this just an
incredible coincidence or did I somehow get cut from the subscriber
list?!

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:04:08 +0100
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Since March 13th I don't get any posts of this list anymore.

Is the list still up? Was I removed somehow?

Please answer to my private adr - thanks.

 Hermann

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:11:44 -0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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Subject:      Borland C++ 1.0 or 2.0

Hi,
 does anybody know where I can find a Borland C++ (1.0 or 2.0) compiler for
HP ? I've look for in some abandonware sites but without luke.
If you have some idea !!! :)

Oh, yeah, I need some documentation about graphic programming for HP too !

Thank you !!!

Isaque.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:53:37 EST
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From:         Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Crack Surgery

   I am curious about your success with the J-B Weld Ýtm¨. I've used it
to repair cracked blocks and a hole in an aluminum valve cover.  It
really is quite structurally sound in those applications. I have even
heard of it being used to repair a bearing seat on the drive assembly of
a large caterpillar. It contains colloidal elemental iron and an acid
etching agent in addition to the epoxy. I'm not sure about its use with
the plastic of the HP's case, but I am certain of its adhesion  to the
brass. . .
   In any case let us know, and if you are successful by all means write
to the manufacturer of this amazing 'goop'.
                                                 Cheers,
                                                  Bob Perron

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:51:12 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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True, just whiney, wishfull thinking on my part. I
wrote that just after
reading an article in the new reader's digest. No
Small Claims 4/99 p.99
and watching the local tv program "Town Hall"
discussing Y2k issues.
Several lawyers talking about Y2K legal issues.  I
figured it would be
a lot cheaper than the costs of defending a suit
even one they know would win.

I had figured I'd be all right as it worked OK for
January 2000 I had not checked 2/29.
<Large sigh>

Bob Phillips wrote:
>
> In article <36EAE8DF.F82296E6@uswest.net>,
>  you write:
>
> |> Anyone know anything about lawsuits?  My ACT! for
> |> hp manual is dated 1992.
> |> Since the HP200lx is still being made and sold I
> |> would think a good case
> |> could be made for Symantec to offer a Y2K fix for
> |> the Act! for palmtops 1.1.1
> |>
> Do you ever bother to read the licensing agreements associated with most
> commercial software?  You probably have no grounds for a lawsuit.  The VAST
> majority of agreements essentially state that the medium for distribution should
> be free from defects and will be replaced if manufacturing defects are found.
> No software maker, to my knowledge, has ever been stupid enough to guarantee that
> a software package will be free from bugs or suited to the purposes of any
> user.  Since part of your case would have to involve how Symantec breached their
> agreement with you, you would need to include the agreement.  The moment a clerk
> reads it, you are out of the lawsuit business...
>
> I'd love to find some way to make Puma update the HP 100/200 LX IntelliSync
> package, but it just isn't going to happen...
>
> I speak for myself, not for HP.
> --
> Robert Phillips            HP NJ Development Lab            VOX:(973)-443-7669
> bobp@fpk.hp.com            300 Campus Drive                 FAX:(973)-443-7432
>                            Florham Park, NJ 07932

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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
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Leonard W. Cavalier wrote:
>
> Excuse me if this response is too ol dor redundant, but I have been out of
> town and am just catching up on e-mail.
>
> First, to answer James' desperate plea, there is a mailing list for WinCE
> devices, and here is some info to get subscribed:
>
> Unsubscribe      <windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Switch to Index  <index-windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Switch to Digest <digest-windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Get Help File    <windowsce-talk-help@lists.hpc.net>
>
> My own opinions: I bought an HPC (Casiopeia A-11) a while ago, as I too was
> enamored of some of the nicer features of the WinCE machines, but I found
> the drawbacks outweighed the improvements, for me.  The backlight was a big
> plus, but then it turned out to run the batteries down too fast, greatly
> limiting its usefuleness.  The faster processor was an attraction, but then
> all the WinCE stuff requries much more processing power and many things ran
> no faster than on my non-upgraded 200LX.  The kicker - I was appalled to
> discover that the Calendar program had no search feature!  The only way to
> find a future (or past) appointment was to march through the daily view, day
> -by-day, or maybe the weekly view, though it was slow to change to the next
> week.  The montlhly view did not show any appointment text.  The 200LX, on
> the other hand, can perform a search, and the monthly view is still without
> equal!  I can only justify carrying a palmtop around everywhere if it can
> adequately handle my organization functions, and the HPC was no just not
> there.  I have the WinCE 2.0 upgrade from Casio, but after almost a year I
> have not been motivated to install it and retry the HPC because the 200LX
> has such superior PIM functions.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Gill ÝSMTP:jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET¨
> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 2:48 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: Going over to the dark side....
> >
> > I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
> > case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
> > note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
> > for the CE machines.
> >
> > Steve D. wrote:
> >
> > > For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> > > using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> > > it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
> > >
> > > I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> > > (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
> > >
> > > My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> > > list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
> > >
> > > Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> > > the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________
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Steve!! you can get an upgrade from win ce 1.0 to win ce 2.0 from
one-stop palmtop shop

tel: 608-752-1537 or e-mail www.mrpalmtop.com

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:00:45 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> After some consideration, I think, the serial port would be the
> better solution, because of three reasons:
>
> 1 - no palmtop manipulation needed
> 2 - could be controlled by software (serial power on/off)
> 3 - a fixed plug is more appropriate for use with a
>     flexible connected LED than a rotating connection.

I've made my own serial port plug with a few hardware
parts costing about 3 US$.

Russell Markus asked me if I could send him the instructions
how to build this thing, if others are interested, I could send
these instructions to anyone else, too.
I have't prepared the 'instruction mail' yet, but I hope,
I have soon the time to do it.
I cannot send it to the list, because I will include
some pictures.

I have the idea to build such a plug, attach a flexible
double-wire to it's '+' and '-' connector and at the end
of the wire is the LED soldered.
It  could look like this:

   ----O
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
   ----E

O       = LED,
E       = Plug
- and | = flexible wire

Stefan Peichl's 'LXPRO' could switch the LED on and off with
the 'COM1 channel' switch.

> Now, is it possible to get 20mA out of the serial port?

Unfortunately I don't know. But if it's not possible, one
single transistor could solve the problem. The disadvantage:
in this case there must be a direct connection to the batteries
to power the transistor :-(

But maybe it's possible to get 20mA out of the serial port! :-)

How much power does a serial mouse need?

GTX
daniel

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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Testing, sure is quiet on the list...

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:14:20 -0500
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              David L Sprinkle <dsprinkl@INDIANA.EDU>
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Is it just me or has something happened to the list? I've not received
any mail since Friday.




Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
Swain West Rm. 117
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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:17:58 +0100
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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From:         Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
Subject:      Compact Flash Question
Content-Type: text

Dear Palmtopppers,
I've been the proud owner of a 2mb Hp200lx for 3 years.
Now I've finally decided to buy a flash card: I'd like to run TeX,
DataPerfect, Gnuplot and some other piece of software on it.
I think that the question is "newbie-rated", but I've never faced this
kind of problem before, so I need your help: is the power consumption
of a Compact Flash Card the same as Ata PCMCIA Type II flash Card
(same brand, sandisk)?
I'd like to buy a 48Mb Compact Flash (as low as 125 bucks, take a
look at www.shopper.com and search for sandisk).

                                Thanks a lot
                                Raffaele Gaioni


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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:19:30 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
Comments: To: Theodore Heise <theise@netins.net>

Theodore Heise writes:
> At one point I would use the AppMgr to check and see which
> apps were actually open, but I quit doing that a while back.

TaskList (on SUPER) is good for checking this.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:27:17 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter W. Borders Ýmailto:TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US¨
> Subject: Re: LED backlight
>
> Isn't the candela just a standardization of the older foot-candle
> measure? Originally the foot-candle was just that, the amount of
> light given out by a certain "standard" sized candle, measured at 1
> foot distance. You still see foot-candles listed on some bulbs an
> such. Milla-candelas would be in 1/1000 of a foot candle.
>
>

I think that 1000 millacandellas ( milli....milla...?? ) is equal to 1
foot-candle, so 9500 mcd is 9.5 foot-candles.


Jon

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:38:55 -0500
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From:         Brenda Clyde <baclyde@APLCOMM.JHUAPL.EDU>
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There used to be some windows freeware software available on the hp site
called TRANSFILE 200? Does anyone know where I can get another copy? I
wiped my hard drive and thought I would be able to go to the previous
site and get it and now I can't find it. I'm so used to it, i don't want
to learn anything else.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brenda

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:38:57 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi, daniel

>>After that, (i.e., removing built in apps) can I register more
EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???

Good question. My quess would be that you could register up to 8 because =
of
the limits of the APNAME.LST files.  HOWEVER there's always the possibili=
ty
that you could have several APNAME.lst files and swap them and reset the
machine to load a new set of EXMs.  This is something to think about and =
it
isn't easy  since App Mgr seems to create the Apname.lst files on closing=

but it doesn't purge the files from App Mgr itself.  =


.ed.
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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:09:40 -0500
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Steve Novosad wrote:

> At work we just got a Viking Components
> 56K PC Card Modem for a laptop.  I tried it
> with my 200LX and it seems to work well

That modem will "work" in the palmtop for a very short call.
But after any longer use, it will probably burn up the
palmtop.  The regular Viking PCMCIA modem draws way too much
power from the palmtop.  Viking also makes a WinCE version
that draws less power, but still too much for the palmtop.

My suggestion: don't continue to use it.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:17:46 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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I suddenly don't receive any messages from the HPLX-list.
What happened?
I did no unsubscribe!
I have no WinCE!
I have no PalmPilot Gameboy!
My only computer-sin is: I use Windows NT and Outlook on the Desktop!
No mercy?
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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:59:59 +0000
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I haven't gotten any messages in 3 days - did I fall off the list? or
is everybody just quiet?

Just wondering
Best Regards,
Mike Melancon

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:22:16 -0500
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David Sargeant said:

> In any case, there's a way you can charge lithium AND alkaline batteries,
> though not in the palmtop.  You have to do them in parallel and not in
> series, so a nicad battery charger won't work.  But I set it up about six
> months ago and was quite successful at trickle charging a pair of dead
> Energizer lithiums

Please don't encourage people to attempt charging Energizer
Lithium batteries.  There is NO WAY they were ever intended to
be recharged or renewed or anything of the sort.  They are
primary batteries - not for recharging

We have enough trouble with people confusing the Energizer
Lithium primary batteries with the Lithium-Ion rechargeable
batteries.  They are two different animals.


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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:22:19 -0500
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David Becher said:

> This morning for the first time the voltage indicator showed that the battery
> voltage was 2.48V and true to the job description, when I got to work and
> plugged in my palmtop, it started charging. After about 30 mins, I noticed
> that the screen was very faint (to be expected) but pressing ON + had no effect
> In fact pressing ANY key had no effect except for CTRL LSHIFT ON

Your machine locked up for some reason, but it did not have
anything to do with the current draw of the flashcard while
charging.  What kind of AC adapter are you using?  HP's?
Whatever it is, it should be able to supply 750 ma at 12 volts
DC.  Does yours do at least that?


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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:55:47 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:54:29 -0500 (EST)

Hi-

Sure is quiet on the list.  Is the server down, or is everyone
hibernating?  8-)

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:51:02 +0000
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              Chris Randle <Chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
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For those that would like more input: I too went from an HP200 to a
PalmPilot III, and thence to a Psion Series 5. Bear in mind that these
comments are just _my_ opinion.

An awful lot of my time spent typing out of the office is on public
transport. British buses on pot-holed roads, and tube trains really
caused the Graffiti system a problem. My notes would be brief, because I
didn't want the hassle of entering more detail, and of course, when I
came to refer to the notes, the info I wanted, I'd not put in. It's a
neat little device, and nicely made, but after the functionality and
flexibility of the HP, I needed something else. Lotus 1-2-3 is a great
application, and the add-on called Quick Sheet just wasn't a patch on
it.

Enter Psion Series 5, with Palm Pilot being retired to my sister (who
still doesn't understand what it is!) Build quality was less good. I was
usually afraid to use the thing. The apps looked pretty and would be
sure to impress down the pub, but they just didn't _work_ like the HP.
For example, I think the database app on the HP is a real lesson in
power through simplicity. The Psion's was just an ordered list,
basically. It had some features that were good though. The alarms were
very flexible and clever, the voice recorder was occasionally useful.

But the Great Programmer of the Universe was smiling on me, and my Psion
broke! The screen cracked whilst in my pocket after I squashed it
between me the steering wheel getting in to my car. I'm back to my HP,
and it's a joy. All the new goodies I'd started to use on the Palm and
Psion (like e-books, and e-mail) I've looked for and found for the HP.
They're usually better versions on the HP, too. I've brought across the
compact flash card I'd bought for the Psion and now I've got tons of
storage.

One snag is that I love shiny new gadgets. As I type, I can hear the
siren song of a Jornada 420. I never learn.
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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:37:53 -0800
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      hplx communications problem

As I have recently written the list, I am in search of an email solution that will be the most cost-effective and work with the other ways I have my 200 configured. I have recently run into a baffling problem.

I was using acCIS 3.1, and was still able to get my mail, though I couldn't access forums (the software is antiquated, alas). I hadn't used CIS on my desktop in months, maybe years. A couple of days ago I activated the software on a new desktop and created a new connection through CIS 4.0. After that, my acCIS 3.1 on the palmtop "blew up" and not only couldn't pick up my email -- the palmtop couldn't even find the program, even though Filer says it's still there.

Simultaneously, other connections I'd been making with ease -- like to my ISP through D&A's demo version of WWW/LX, and a Datacomm connection to my bank -- started failing. Most recently, the connection to palmtop.com in California has failed repeatedly.

D&A's WWW/LX is the most helpful interface because it actually tells you what's happening. The message I've gotten recently is "Internal stack overflow." That particular connection attempt freezes the palmtop. (Avi, in case you read this: the LCP connections reads endless arrows down, then maybe one up, then endless arrows down again, until the screen freezes.) The other failures (through palmtop.com and Datacomm) consist of endless "skreeing" noises as the modem tries to connect but can't.

I'm using an EXP Thinfax Modem 14.4. It seems still to be able to send a fax, and tests "OK" through Datacomm. Can anyone guess what happened? Could the acCIS disaster actually have changed a script or setting in the palmtop that applies to all connections? Could the modem have failed quite coincidentally?

I'm stumped. I'd love it if someone could point me in the direction of things to try. The EXP has never been problematic, by the way.

Thanks in advance.

Mina Carson

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Date:         Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:08:55 +0100
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Hi Ed and List,

Ed Keefe wrote:
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 6:32 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
>
>
> >>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in
> applications i
> do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to
> make place for more applications?
>
> Yes there is a way to do what you want.
>
Great! I was looking for that some days ago.

>  BUT back up the original APPMGR.DAT file first.
>
You meant: Backup the whole C: drive first - or?

> ....
> Once you make this change there's no "undo" other than wiping
> everything
> from the C: drive and rebuilding the machine. Hence the need
> for saving the original file.
>
So the original APPMGR.DAT file is reinstalled?

> How do I know this stuff? Well, I'm writing an article all
> about App Mgr for PTP.
> I've got this program doing some interesting things, e.g. I
> removed the
> icons for all the blue key apps. Who needs 'em when you've
> got the blue
> keys?
>
Right, but for each EXM-icon an EXM-key sequence has to be available.
I don't use F1,F2,.. combinations, since these are reserved for the
EXM applications internally.

There are some additional sequences using F11 and F12 (as you know).

Did someone find a method to install an EXM via it's icon without
'eating up' a key-sequence for that?

Hermann

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Neill,

 > Ienjoyed reading your list so much,but,being such a junky myself,I just
 > can't bring myself to buy yet more computers             Neill
 > At 03:55 PM 3/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
 > >I being a bit of a gadget junkie have accumulated quite a few handhelds
 > >and related devices that are not seeing use and could use a good home,

   Ý...¨

Then you proceeded to quote the entire long post. Whatfor?
Please try to be considerate and refrain for quoting
unnecessarily. Many of us use palmtops with limited
storage. Connections cost money andtime too. Long posts
with zip content are at best a nuisance.

Let me tell you a story: Once we had many people here who
provided a lot of support, and insight and experience. But
the denizens generally showed the same amount of
consideration you did in quoting an unnecessary post in
their ENTIRETY.

These people poste a few pleas for consideration. Things
got a little better, then deteriorated again. many of these
invaluable resources (people with lots of experience)
simply logged off the list... It is simply annoying and
bothersome.

So we lost them for some time, Some are back, but not all.
Among the main reasons for not getting into this list is
the annoyance of enless, thoughtless, and inconsiderate
quoting.

This is coming back, and it jeopardises the value of this
list to all of us - and that includes YOU! One day, you'll
be stuck with a question and one will know the answer
except that one expert who could not stand the overquoting
and left. So there you are, screwed! And by whom? Yourself.

I am not signling you out because I have an ax to grind
with you, but because it is so obviously flagrant and
thoughtless. In this you represent many people here and so
I send this message to you.

This by way of a plea to you, and to EVERYONE ELSE HERE who
quotes with no discrimination and no thought: Please,
please use your good brain, and quote what is necessary to
make your message clear!!! The rest is luggage, heavy,
unnecessary, in the class of junk mail, spam, whatever...

Thank you!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 18:57:19 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Desqview?

Hi All,

I've been contemplating the purchase of an HP200LX and have been lurking
on this list for quite a while now. I recently had decided upon a used
8MB Doublespeed, but I just had some unexpected good fortune and that has
now translated to a 32MB HP200LX from Thaddeus instead of the 8MB.  I
have Lynn Cavendish's shared insight from an email to thank for that
decision. ;-) Thanks Lynn! :-)

I've found and purchased a new 30MB Sandisk FC and adapter from
www.Buycomp.com for approx $100 (which will work well with my digital
camera too, BTW) and have found an adequate A/C adapter at Radio Shack
(Cat. No 273-1652B) for approx $12 or $13.  I have now finally decided to
break my silence and stick my neck out to ask a question.

I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
on my HP200LX and have been watching many comment on how much they like
SC for task switching. I used to run a BBS and used Desqview extensively.
Will Desqview 386 or an earlier version work on the HP200LX? If so, it
seems to me that Desqview (as an actual quasi multitasker) would be much
more powerful than SC.

Also, I plan to see if I can develop a convenient way to hot synch my
HP200LX's DOS software with the same software on my desktop PC using a
simple network and some freeware file utilities, much like the way the
PalmPilot can do a hot synch.

I've recently found a supply of shells from the old "Station 100" too, so
I ordered one. (Sadly, the Station 100 is now out of production.) I would
like to use that as a base for a hot synch cradle. Who knows what I'll
come up with. :-)

If anyone else has some comments and/or some personal experience with
these things, I'd be interested in hearing from you. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
President of DataVault Co.
A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:38:02 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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Comments:     To: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Password protection

Philippe Lewis writes:
> If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based
> password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200?
> Preferably System Manager compliant...

I now use SecureDevice 1.4 to keep my "password ring" data secure. It
uses the IDEA cryptographic algorithm (which is secure enough for my
limited bank balance). I think it's on SUPER, and I know that it's
Open Source as I have recompiled it myself to ensure there are no
viruses or backdoors.

I followed the instructions to set up a volume, on which I store .txt,
.ndb and .wk1 files which hold my sensitive information.

In my config.sys file, I have the line:

  device=c:\_sys\secdev.sys c:\rwhitby.!@# /t5

This makes the volume appear as a drive in Filer (and therefore
available to SysMgr applications, as well as DOS applications), and
sets the auto-logout to 5 minutes.

The I use DosLine under MoreEXM to call the login.exe program so I can
type in the password to access the secure H: drive.

After I finish accessing the H: drive, the password expires after five
minutes.

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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:22:19 -0500
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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From:         Systems Consulting <systemsconsulting@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
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OK List,

I have attempted to setup Funk Software's Allways for 123 on the 200LX.

I have not been successful. It seems that the software expects to be in the
C:\_DAT directory. I doubt that most of you have 1 - 1.5 meg available to
use for this. I also found that setting up a printer is difficult.

I guess that's another WYSIWYG possibility that's not practical.

Still, I wouldn't give up my two 200LX's for anything!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Daniel Hertrich
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:43 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: WYSIWYG-Addon for 123?
>
>
> Hi list,
>
>
> does anyone have the WYSIWYG-Addon for 1-2-3 running on
> the x00LX?
>
> GTX
> daniel
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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:46:17 -0800
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 > I have started using 1300mah Nimh batteries over the last couple of weeks
 > and I thought I would try out ABC to see how it would handle charging them.
 > So a week and a half ago I set ABC to Autotune my batteries and came up with
 > the following settings:

Are you aware that the ABCDEMO will word for only 30 hours
USER-Time? (usertime is counted minute by minute. Each
minute you press the keyboard at least once, is considered
in the usertime count.)

 > course stopped the charge cycle which I now have restarted manually. I have
 > a 30Mb flash disk installed. Could it be that the drain of the flash card and

How much does your flash draw?

 > very low batteries is too much for the palmtop? What is a good starting
 > voltage for these batteries? I would welcome any suggestions before I buy
 > the software. (Are you reading this Avi ? :-)

Yes, I am reading it. The question is is 2.50V a good
voltage to start? Well, yes... You can use anything within
reason. The point of when to start is dual:

1. It reverses the voltage indication to give you a visual
warning that the chosen threshold was reached.

2. It means that you can get into a habit of leaving the
battery charged to no less than xyz. I used to use 2.53
because from experience, I had enough left in the battery
then to last me until I got to another adapter. It left me
with some margin of work sufficient for my pattern of work.

>.45 was too low, it left me with about 3 hours, and my
average "excursions" were longer than that. At 2.53V I had
about 5 hours range before the battery was too low.


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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:58:46 -0500
Reply-To:     "wally@pop.uky.edu" <wally@pop.uky.edu>
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Subject:      Performed crack surgery today, patient is in ICU..
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Well, for a year I've had a 'hair' where the infamous LX crack appears, and
within the last two weeks that hair went from being contained within the
top portion of the lid, to wrapping around the beveled portion to down
towards the hinge.  The last few days it's started to yawn a bit when
closing the lid, so I had to take action.

I formulated my plan from http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/hpcrack.htm a
page that describes placing brass reinforcements over the crack (and good
side for symmetry)  and using JB Kwik as adhesive.  My skills apparently
aren't up to the person who made the rather attractive brass pieces in the
picture shown on the above URL, but I did the best I could.  I rounded the
corners, beveled the edges, and used steel wool on the top surface, and a
rough sanding tool on the bottom to give the adhesive a better chance.  The
backside of the brass doesn't curve like in the picture, but it doesn't
look bad at all.  Looks kinda funny from the side, but from the top it
almost seems like it belongs there.  If only it were a little duller to
match the HP logo on the lid.  And the only JB I saw was JB Weld, so that's
what I grabbed.  Kwik is the quick drying formula, and while I'd love to
have the palmtop with me 24/7, I can let it rest and hopefully let its'
wound heal.

I'll let you all know how it does.  I'm hoping that tomorrow I'll be able
to open and close the lid without any movement in the crack.  If so, I'll
put 'er back to work and keep my eyes open for hemorrhaging.  If not...
hmm...  I'm not sure.  I considered superglue, then sanding smooth and then
applying the brass, I'll probably try that next if I have to.

Comments welcome.

--
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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:57:41 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      FLASH card use (was Re: 200LX Upgrade (...))
In-Reply-To:  <000401be6ce2$aa697800$31026fc6@ldbrooks.umich.edu>; from L.
              Brooks on Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 06:47:19PM -0500
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1999-03-12-23:47:19 L. Brooks:
> I currently have my 1MB allocated ÝSystem RAM 572¨ ÝRAM Disk 416¨.
> This allows me to have Appt, Phone, 123, Note, Memo, and Calculator open at
> the same time (which I usually do).
>
> I am aware that Flash memory is slower than standard RAM and that there is a
> theoretical limit to read/write cycles.
>
> So, David, on which disk (RAM or Flash) do you put programs and which do you
> put data?  Why?

I've had several different usage patterns over the years; it has varied with
the amount of C: RAM and the size of FLASH I had at various points in time.

At one extreme, I had a 5MB 200LX; it had c. 640K for DOS, and the remaining
c. 4.3MB was C:; I JAMmed that (compressed using jam125sw.zip), and so had a
good 8-10MB available for storage for C:. On a clock-doubled machine, the
JAMmed C: was nearly as fast as the FLASH, so I used C: for all changing data,
and FLASH for programs and for read-only data. That worked great.

Now I'm at an opposite extreme; until I can fix my 200LX, I'm working on an
emergency-backup machine, a 1MB 100LX at original clock speed. And I've
upgraded to an 85MB FLASH. So now I keep everything on the FLASH. Those few
files that apps insist on finding on C: somewhere, I let live there, and
frequently backup to a:\bck\, and I've got an autoexec.bat that will reload
c:\ from a:\bck\ if necessary; so my FLASH is the entire personality of my LX,
and I can move it from one box to another effortlessly.

That works great for me too.

I'd say the single most important thing in how I use LX and FLASH is
_backups_. Make sure everything is totally backed up at least daily, and keep
all backups forever (a version control system can make this easy).

-Bennett

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:50:15 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
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Hi all, whats a good hex I can use to edit my APPMGR.DAT? :)  I tried
using the editor in XTREE Gold, but had no luck.  Is there a freeware/
shareware/abandonware one available that will work for this?  Thanks!

Brian S
kaervek@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:19:45 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
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> Yves Leurquin writes:
> > Can you still access these apps through Macro Automation ? Some apps may rely
> > on keying E in SysMgr to access Memo for example.
>
> If any do, then they should be rewritten.  There is nothing stopping a
> normal user (i.e. one who's not removing things from AppMgr) from adding
> an icon before Memo, and assigning E to it (which will be found first).
>

Actually, ages ago, I did learn that you can patch, at least, that
aspect of Appmgr.dat.  I changed the Hotkey letter for a few of the
internal applications by removing the &character in their names.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:18:26 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
Subject:      Picked up from aus.forsale.comp
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This guy is starting to get realistic, thought
the group might like to know so they can batter
him down somemore (he started at AU$1100!)

Regards to all.......Liam


For sale: PALMTOP HP 200 LX 2Mg,
+ rechargeable batteries,
+ power supply,
+computer link (cable+software DOS/Windows)
+ 10MG flash card (20 MB Compressed),
+ leather case,
+ All doc ...
asking AU$800 for this unit in perfect condition. see it @
http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/palmtops.html


Please DEL "remove" in my address
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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:00:03 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Dean L." <deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
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From:         "Dean L." <deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Listserver down?
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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This may or may not be the reason..
AT&T stated that the "MayWest" server had taken some kind of Hit..
This is the server that is the Back Bone to the West Coast.
Looks like it is back and running.   But they said it may take 2 days=20
to get it all back...
Dean L


On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:55:47 -0500, you wrote:

>Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:54:29 -0500 (EST)
>
>Hi-
>
>Sure is quiet on the list.  Is the server down, or is everyone
>hibernating?  8-)
>
>-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:50:34 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and its "To:" Field.
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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Hi Tomas:

 > Who can I create ONE message in WWW/LX that I whant to send to a LARGE
 > number
 > of people. I whant every body to se whom it has been sent to.
 >
 > I tried to just ad email adresses in the "To:" field, but it only fitted
 > a few.

TSK, TSK! :)

Ctrl-F1, then search (F7) for ADDRESS LIST.

The address list consists of an ASCII file with email
addresses one per line. (You can see an example of such an
address file in POST.ADR...)

Take a look at that topic... I'll be glad to add any other
explanations, if necessary.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:47:04 -0500
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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From:         Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from App Mgr.
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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At 05:46 AM 3/15/99 GMT, you wrote:
>Hi Ed,
>
>> >>is there a (unconventional) way to remove the build-in applications i
>> do not use from the systemÝsic¨ application manager`s menu to make place
>> for
>> more applications?
>>
>> Yes there is a way to do what you want.  BUT back up the original
>> APPMGR.DAT file first.
>Ý...¨
>
>After that, can I register more EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???
>GTX
>daniel

You bet.
Owen

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:45:48 -0500
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 01:38 AM 3/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, daniel
>
>>>After that, (i.e., removing built in apps) can I register more
>EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???
>
>Good question. My quess would be that you could register up to 8 because of
>the limits of the APNAME.LST files.  HOWEVER there's always the possibility
>that you could have several APNAME.lst files and swap them and reset the
>machine to load a new set of EXMs.  This is something to think about and it
>isn't easy  since App Mgr seems to create the Apname.lst files on closing
>but it doesn't purge the files from App Mgr itself.
>
I did this:
Deleted 11 built-in apps from appmgr.dat
then I added a total of 19 apps with icons back to it
It works fine. Doesn't seem to bother the apname.lst to have more than 8
listed.
You get a bunch of garbled characters (in the appmgr 'add' dialog) when you
try to add the 20th new app.

I also tried to figure out if you could add to the appmgr.dat file with the
hex editor to make room for even more programs. It didn't work. When the
appmgr closes it overwrites the appmgr.dat file to the 8374 byte file size.

Owen

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:41:54 -0500
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Hi all,

  Even though I received a couple of email responses to my first post, my
very first post didn't appear in the latest digest that I just got, at
all. My second post which asked why I wasn't getting a digest anymore did
indeed appear in the digest.

  So assuming that some others didn't see my first post either, here is
another copy for good measure:

---

Hi All,

I've been contemplating the purchase of an HP200LX and have been lurking
on this list for quite a while now. I recently had decided upon a used
8MB Doublespeed, but I just had some unexpected good fortune and that has
now translated into an expected 32MB HP200LX from Thaddeus instead of the
8MB.  I have Lynn Cavendish's shared insight from an email to thank for
that decision. ;-) Thanks Lynn! :-)

I've found and purchased a new 30MB Sandisk FC and adapter from
www.Buycomp.com for approx $100 (which will work well with my digital
camera too, BTW) and have found an adequate A/C adapter at Radio Shack
(Cat. No 273-1652B) for approx $12 or $13. (500ma) I have now finally
decided to break my silence and stick my neck out to ask a question.

I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
on my HP200LX and have been watching many comment on how much they like
SC for task switching. I used to run a BBS and used Desqview extensively.
Will Desqview 386 or an earlier version work on the HP200LX? If so, it
seems to me that Desqview (as an actual DOS quasi multitasker) would be
much more powerful than SC.

Also, I plan to see if I can develop a convenient way to hot synch my
HP200LX's DOS software with the same software on my desktop PC using a
simple network and some freeware file utilities, much like the way the
PalmPilot can do a hot synch.

I've recently found a supply of base shells from the old "Station 100"
too, so I ordered one. (Sadly, the Station 100 is now out of production.)
I would like to use that as a base for a hot synch cradle. Who knows what
I'll come up with. :-)

If anyone else has some comments and/or some personal experience with
these things, I'd be interested in hearing from you. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
President of DataVault Co.
A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc

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Avi:
Could you share with us how were you using the HP200LX for presentations?
Les

You wrote:
>I made 4 presentations on palmtops in
>the last week of February. I updated three of them on the
>morning of the presentation!!!

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Avi,

>Then you proceeded to quote the entire long post. What for?
>Please try to be considerate and refrain for quoting
>unnecessarily. Many of us use palmtops with limited
>storage. Connections cost money andtime too. Long posts
>with zip content are at best a nuisance.


Point VERY well taken.  Thank you for remining us.

Best,

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Thanks, Mina.  I'll pick up one or two as soon as my wallet recovers from my
anxiety to get back to the HP200LX!  I ended up buying two machines, a 2 meg
unit (SG6xx) for upgrade to 8, 32, or 64 meg and a 5 meg doublespeed Ace
upgraded '95 model, and a 1414LXM, plus a bunch of other stuff.  Now I've
got to re-buy all my D & A software, since I sold it all with my 4 meg about
6 months ago!  I buy brains because I apparently don't have any of my own!

Best,

Bill

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From: MCarson@orst.edu <MCarson@orst.edu>
To: eugarps@IBM.NET <eugarps@IBM.NET>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: Compact Flash - Will They Work?


>Yes indeed, CF cards will work with an adapter in the 200LX
>Mina
>
> ----------
> From:  Bill SpragueÝSMTP:eugarps@IBM.NET¨
> Sent:  Saturday, March 13, 1999 7:42 AM
> To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:  Compact Flash - Will They Work?
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry if this is WAY old news but I've been gone for a while.  I've been
> looking at compact flash cards with Type II adapters.  Will they work in
the
> HP 200LX?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:44:43 -0800
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Yes, that's true: hiding data is, at most, a really good deterrent. For me,
I think, it's the idea that people won't see that data easily and eventually
see the OWNER.TXT from buddy and be enticed to return the machine for a
sizeable reward!

Gotta try Secure Device, though!

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>

>Sorry, but I don't think it's a good security method.
>
>If you have sensitive data then LOCK it up, don't just HIDE it
>and hope someone won't find it.
>
>I use SecureDevice and create a 32k encrypted F: drive.
>
>cheers... Russ
>
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Up till now I used the 200LX's internal battery graph, but recently started
> using Battlog.  Just wondered how low is too low.

Les,

Not that it's a contest or anything, but the lowest BattLog "Main Lowest!"
reading I have ever recorded in my 1x 2MB 200LX is 2.34 v.

Somebody mentioned a while ago that the palmtop goes into "Backup Mode"
(refusing to turn on until receiving fresh AAs) either at or below 2.33 v, so I
don't know if a BattLog reading of 2.33 v is even possible!

Like Avi (and anyone who uses rechargeables with a steep discharge curve), I
start sweating at 2.39 v and start panicking at 2.37 v.

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              Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM
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Chris,

Pocket Quicken is one of the great features I love about the 200LX.    I hate to
enter individual transactions to the desktop so the 200LX really fits the bill.
At first I used the connectivity pack to upload the data to the desktop but
found it tiring.      Then Pocket Quicken Connect came along and I was set.
It will not synchronize the two computers - but I did not want to in the first
place.    The 200LX holds the information until I upload.      Connect does send
back a transaction called a sync balance adjustment so  when you are finished
the balances on the two machines are the same.      Also I learned the hard way
that the data file on the 200LX should be trimmed regularly because it's size
can only grow (or at least I can't  figure how to make it smaller).     If you
trim it enters a balance forward figure which does not get sent to the desktop.
Also when you trim (from the account view, file, trim) you should clear the keep
uncleared transactions - if you balance on your desktop.       When I balance on
the desktop Connect does NOT send that information back to the 200LX so you
could have a very large data file with many uncleared transactions - again from
experience.

Not sure why Intuit is not selling it but you could try CompUSA.     They were
able to locate copy of a program that I was unable to obtain elsewhere.

Joe


Date:    Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:13:54 -0600
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I may have answered part of my own question... I found all about Pocket
Quicken Connect on the Quicken/Intuit website.  It would appear to be
what I want.  However... I can't seem to be able to purchase it nor find
out how much it costs.  Can anyone explain this?  Also, is this product
all it is adverised to be?  Are there any caviats when using it with
the HP200LX?

-Chris

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> There used to be some windows freeware software available on the hp site
> called TRANSFILE 200? Does anyone know where I can get another copy?

Brenda,

For Transfile200 (and much more) check out:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html

Bruce in Toronto


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> Anyone ever come across "Idealist". Sounds great! Seems like a version
> of Infor Select that will import files!

>     For note taking, Idealist from Blackwell Scientific Publishers
> offers a full text database that can import common word processor
> and database formats.  Bitmaps, faxes, and other images can also
> be stored.  Versions exist for Mac, DOS, Windows, and NT, and OS/2
> lets you cut and paste from MS Word.

Peter,

There is apparently a demo of Idealist available via ftp from:

ftp://ftp.demon.net/pub/commercial-demos/idealist/

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is there a program available to allow the sending of sms (short messaging
service) for the 200lx?  this service is available in gsm pcs coverage areas.

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Howdy all!

I am new to the list, and have a number of HP usage questions which I hope some of you may be able to help answer.  I have already skimmed the HPLX.net web site, and sifted the email archives, but there are still pieces missing and I would very much appreciate hearing your experiences and suggestions.

Some background:

I am a relative newcomer to the whole palmtop/PDA business :-), having gotten my first unit, an HP100LX, in 1993. I followed that with an HP200LX (2MB) in 1996 when I loaned the 100 to a friend who decided they would prefer to keep it (and besides it was a good excuse for me to get new hardware :-). During most of that time, I used the HP as my daily organizer and note-taker, as well as for various analytical purposes (engineering & finance stuff) plus the odd bit of writing and other chores. Didn't do much syncing at that point; just blasted text and app files back and forth.

About 15 months ago, I switched over to a Psion Series 5. This was done partly based on the enhanced capabilities of its built-in apps, as well as a growing need to sync PIM-type data with my desktop, backlit screen, etc.  The Psion itself worked fairly well, but for various reasons, including desktop sync problems, and a growing dissatisfaction with its hardware quality, I finally decided to take the plunge and get a WinCE machine.

So, I picked up an HP 660LX a couple of weeks ago. Although bulkier than ideal, this is a reasonable piece of hardware -- very nice screen, solid keys, decent "feel" (as one would expect from HP). However, it has been giving me fits, which I suspect are due mainly to WinCE itself.

The active sync to Outlook 98 has been working alright, but I have not loaded more than a couple of third-party apps, and a moderate amount of data (couple thousand combined of appointments/ contacts/to-do's), and practically every day, I have had to reset the machine at least a couple times (or more!). I am going to contact HP tech support, in case the unit is somehow defective, but this just feels like bugs to me.

Frankly, if the 660LX was working reliably, I'd grit my teeth at the power draw and some of the software oversights (no decent calculator indeed! phooey!) in exchange for the screen quality and connectivity. But, such behavior is simply not acceptable for something I rely on so much. Since I was not satisfied with the Psion either, I am now seriously considering going back to the HP200LX again, with DoubleSpeed & memory upgrades.


My main needs in a palmtop device are: fairly extensive agenda, contact, & task functions having sync capability with a modern desktop PIM, solid spreadsheet support, ability to store and access reference notes, data, and textual info in quantity, plus reliability in use (both physical and software-related).

Ethernet connectivity would be cool -- the speed is a real plus for syncs and moving files, and serial cables are a nuisance. Voice note capability would be desirable. I have occasional need for terminal emulation (mostly to get consoles for network troubleshooting). Decent security/ encryption software would be a useful plus.

Ink notes, Web browsing, email/news, and other such stuff are purely gravy -- if they came with a system, I'd probably muck about with them :-) but can readily live without if they do not (and for any extended travel I will have a laptop anyhow).

So, having finally set the stage :-), here are my questions:


* The list FAQ sez:

>Q. Can I sync up my 200LX with Outlook 98?
>
>A. Yes, with a bunch of complicated steps. Some of our talented
>programmers (or at least one of them) are working on a solution. Why you
>would want to is beyond me, though.

  For now, let's assume I want to. Is there any _real_ chance of an
  Outlook 98 sync solution happening?  Doesn't have to be commercial,
  but cannot require tons of tweaking (or I might as well keep resetting
  the WinCE machine...)

* Failing the availability of same, how well does the PumaTech IntelliSync
  software work with MS Schedule 7?  Any limits on number of items to sync?
  Any issues with preserving repeated items or instances, or converting tasks
  (to-do items)?  ÝI don't use the workgroup features of Outlook, and could
  possibly see my way to backing off and using Schedule if that would make
  syncing work cleanly¨

* Is there anything I can use to provide a level of To-do handling on the
  HP that would be equivalent to Pocket Outlook's Tasks module? If so, how
  can it be sync'd to the desktop (Outlook or Schedule)?

* What applications (if any) could be used on the desktop which would sync
  with the built-in Notes app?

* Any recommendations for a program to supplement Memo to produce MS Word
  type documents? I saw someone say "Get WordPerfect 5.1 or LetterPerfect"
  earlier today; if so, where can I find or buy one of these?

* How much of a perceived difference does the Double-Speed upgrade make in
  ordinary use, say for things like searching thru contacts?

* Ethernet use on the 200LX looks like something of a hairball; are
  there any more detailed treatments available than what I saw on
  the Web site? I already have a Socket Communications LP-E card, would
  it be possible to use this?


Any feedback on other issues that I may have missed would also be welcome. Sorry for the length of this posting, but the whole thing has gotten just a bit more involved than I could have figured back when I picked up that first palmtop. :-)  Thanks in advance for any help you all can provide!


Regards,

  -- Patrick W. <pw.list@blackoak.com>

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Date:         Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:50:28 GMT
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Andy wrote:

>Can you point me to any screenshots of the 200LX?
>
>I'd like to see any good screenshots of the 200LX screen while
>running one of its major applications.  Preferably camerashots.

You can see screen shots of all the "major" applications at
http://members.aol.com/freewhl44/lxview.html (although they're not
photographs).

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   >>Where power comes from is not as important as where the LED will be
   >>mounted.  My first thought was to incorporate the pocket which
   >>receives the infamous latch but, you would block the light when
   >>accessing the keys.
Message-Id: <19990313045035.BRLP26367@Ý12.72.154.150¨>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:50:35 +0000

   >How about using the space right under the latch to hold a base for
   >some thin (wire?) extension arm which folds out?

There's a thought. How about replacing the infamous rubberband latch with
something more solidly engineered, with some of these hitech LEDs mounted
underneath and directed over the surface of the screen. Then the light'd be
coming from above...just like a real reading light.

You could try running power to them thru some wires under the screen
(I'll bet just about everyone but me has pried up that plastic template
surrounding the screen, right?).

Of course, where the power comes from is still a question....since it was
mentioned that they'd run off hearing aid batteries, why not just tap
into the backup lithium? Close enough to the edge of the case that we could
just jury-rig a switch (heck, ol David Sargeant's even mounted a speaker on
his case)...and this should provide more incentive to us for regularly
replacing the battery....just do it when then light goes dim.

BTW, on a related side note, I got a Christmas present of a high-tech key
ring light called "Star Sapphire" or something like that. It sounds
something like the LEDs being discussed. The unit puts out an impressively
bright blue light thru what the box describes as a "solid state light
source", which sounds like LED, and is powered by lithiums in a sealed
aluminum case thats about 1.5 in long and maybe a 1/4 in thick....and
guaranteed for LIFE (send it in if the batteries give out)...that tells me
the mfg expects to get a reasonably long life out of the otherwise non-user
replaceable batteries.

IOW, I think this LED approach has merit...too bad I'm such a klutz when it
comes to hardware and can't otherwise contribute anything more
constructive and tangible.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:46:29 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wish I could run Freelance Graphics on my LX
Comments: cc: pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK

Message-Id: <19990313045028.BRKS26367@Ý12.72.154.150¨>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:50:28 +0000

On 1999-03-12 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >What do you do to get Freelance Graphics for DOS 4.0 working OK on
   >the LX? Manual says it requires "640K of RAM for a minimum of 466,
   >000 bytes (455K) free after DOS".

You should have plenty of memory available, assuming you don't load a lot
of TSRs during your bootup. In the days of DOS 2-5, when a program said
it'd run in nnnK bytes, they usually meant it.

Check your available memory in "pure" DOS by using CHKDSK or MEM. Even in
my "bloated" setup with 8 TSRs loaded, I still have 599,648 bytes available
in DOS.

Upgrading to more memory shouldn't help you much. Most old DOS programs
need lots of real memory vs the expanded memory that you'd be getting with
the upgrade.

   >I suspect the weird characters I got was due to the wrong graphics
   >adapter being specified as it warns about this in the manual. (I
   >copied the files from the desktop where it specified a colour
   >graphics adapter.

I would agree.  I suspect your problems are more of juggling the right
setups vs hardware problems. The LX (even unupgraded) is almost always a
perfect platform for installing most of the older DOS programs

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:46:49 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks,

If you have noticed a new cheapie cd-rom from
Lotus is showing up in retail stores for $9.99
It has an older version of LOTUS Organizer 2.x for
Windows.  It works fine in Windows95, WinNT



This is the url for the free HP200LX to Lotus
Organizer 2.1 exchange link utility.

One really nice thing about it is you can import
and export to local files.
So it is usefull even if you use a pcmcia card
instead of the cable to transfer files.

ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/zq6t00a.exe


--
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Got a URL or other reference?

Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Peter Maddern wanted to know a little more about this software and I thought
> it may interest the list.
>
> The main feature is that data is not preformatted into specific criteria.
> Its good for scribbling type note entry and info retrieval. Or a
> Miscellaneous type data ...
>
> MemoryMate is a database type package that indexes every piece of data
> entered into every "record". Every record could have a different size and/or
> ...
<snip>
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:29:10 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Need help with Flash Card!
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If you still have it I'd love to play with it, try
an trick or two.:)

Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> That was me! I'm still here, just quiet. I was hoping to resurect Ed's card by
> using
> one of the low level ATA format programs that I have, but no luck. I was able to
> read the card parameters off of the card, but that was about it. There really
> was somethign wrong with it.
>
> -Bryan
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > My news is not good. I had a 40MB Pretec card that I paid $350 for. It is
> > THE WORST lx-related purchase I have ever made. The Pretec card was
> > abisimally slow and it finally died with the same symptoms you're
> > describing. I even sent the card off to a another guy who gavc it shot at
> > trying to fix it with some other software tools. (I think his name was Brian
> > Biggers. Haven't seen his name on  the list lately..)
> >
> > Ý RANT MODE ON ¨
> > The end result was a worthless card. I had owned the card for over a year so
> > I didn't bother trying to get satisfaction from pretec but I will tell
> > everyone that these cars SUCK! stay away from them. New 40MB cards go for
> > $150-$200USD nowadays. Yer better off upgrading rather than wasting your
> > time with the lousy Pretec card.
> > Ý RANT MODE OFF ¨
> >
> > I hope you're able to fix your card. If you're under a strict budget, try
> > buying a used one.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Berry Ýmailto:lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL¨
> > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 10:18 AM
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Need help with Flash Card!
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently formatted one of my PRETEC 12Meg Flash ATA cards.
> > > Since they came
> > > already formatted this is the first time I have had to
> > > reformat any of them.
> > > Now my 200LX won't recognize the flash card, even to try
> > > formatting again (The
> > > error I get is "Format not supported on drive A:  Format
> > > terminated.").
> > >
> > > Any assistance I can get will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
> > >
> > > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> > > Larry Berry
> > > NavSurfWarCen, Crane
> > > Bldg# 2917  Code: 6031
> > > 300 Hwy 361
> > > Crane, Indiana  47522-5001
> > > (812)854-1729   Fax: 1916
> > > DSN: 482-1729
> > > lberry@sem.crane.navy.mil
> > > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:59:17 -0500
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              Michael Schneider - UG <nztml0@TPC.NATP.GMEDS.COM>
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I haven't received any mail from the list since the 13th of march....

Mike...

Reboot the server!!!

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:19:03 -0600
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              "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM>
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From:         "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP transfer software
Comments: To: "baclyde@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu" <baclyde@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>
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go to
http://www2.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe.html
<http://www2.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe.html>


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brenda Clyde ÝSMTP:baclyde@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu¨
        Sent:   Monday, March 15, 1999 10:39 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
        Subject:        HP transfer software

        There used to be some windows freeware software available on the hp
site
        called TRANSFILE 200? Does anyone know where I can get another copy?
I
        wiped my hard drive and thought I would be able to go to the
previous
        site and get it and now I can't find it. I'm so used to it, i don't
want
        to learn anything else.  Any help would be appreciated.

        Thanks,
        Brenda

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:25:14 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Please don't encourage people to attempt charging Energizer Lithium
> batteries.  There is NO WAY they were ever intended to be recharged or
> renewed or anything of the sort.  They are primary batteries - not for
> recharging

Okay.  Let me add this disclaimer: only an idiot would attempt to recharge
them, Energizer is not legally responsible for the hot acid that sprays
all over your face when you attempt to charge them, etc. Having said that,
it's perfectly possible to recharge them despite the fact that they are
not intended in any way to be recharged.  It's just risky.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:11:21 -0500
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              Michael Schneider - UG <nztml0@TPC.NATP.GMEDS.COM>
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It's been three days since the list went down... sure is good to see it back up.
I was starting to wonder if my ISP was having serious problems receiving HPLX
mail...

Anyways, now the truth comes out!!!

Sure hope we can get the volume of mail back up to where it was before... Here's
my contribution! :-)

Anyways, as I recall, a few of us were talking about using an external pen
shaped device that would plug into the serial port, as a lighting mechanism, in
lieu of a backlight on the 200LX.

Has the design and development on this widget progressed any farther??? :-)

Mike...

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:25:25 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Question
Comments: To: Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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If I understood a long discussion of this that was circulated here
a while back, SANdisk (HP) cards have superior power consumption,
but are a shade slower than, say, SimpleTech cards.

I have one HP original 5mb (SANdisk) card and one SimpleTech 40mb card.
They both work well. I leave the SanDisk in my 200 just about
permanently, swapping it out for backup, and also for occasional use
of the stuff on the 40mb card.

One caution about TeX. If you normally run TeX on a Laptop or
Desktop, you may find it quite frustrating to run on the 200. I'm sure
you can get it to work, but I recall it being so *terribly* slow that
I found it not useful. On the other hand, I manpiplate my TeX source
files on the 200 all the time, I just wait until I am at a Lap/Desk Top
to do the conversion to .DVI.

Raffaele Gaioni wrote:
>
> Dear Palmtopppers,
> I've been the proud owner of a 2mb Hp200lx for 3 years.
> Now I've finally decided to buy a flash card: I'd like to run TeX,
> DataPerfect, Gnuplot and some other piece of software on it.
> I think that the question is "newbie-rated", but I've never faced this
> kind of problem before, so I need your help: is the power consumption
> of a Compact Flash Card the same as Ata PCMCIA Type II flash Card
> (same brand, sandisk)?
> I'd like to buy a 48Mb Compact Flash (as low as 125 bucks, take a
> look at www.shopper.com and search for sandisk).
>
>                                 Thanks a lot
>                                 Raffaele Gaioni
>
> Note: Excuse me for my poor English... :)
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:25:39 -0600
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              Bill Vickerman <bvickerman@CHRONIMED.COM>
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You are not alone. I haven't been getting things eater

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
John J Vanderstel
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 12:16 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Hello?!


  If this mailing list has failed to send activity to everyone else for
the same period of time, then I apologize in advance for this unnecessary
post which was prompted by an amazing coincidence.

  After lurking and learning from this list for quite a while, I finally
stuck my neck out and actually posted my VERY FIRST message to this list
on Saturday the 13th...

  Well, it is now Tuesday (3 days since the 13th), and I have yet to get
a single digest from this list, since my post. Was this just an
incredible coincidence or did I somehow get cut from the subscriber
list?!

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel

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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:46:45 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

     We're back up & running!

Seems the LIST got locked up somehow, but all is well now.

Sorry for the inconvenience

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:28:28 -0600
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Just as an FYI, Im getting a number of test messages to this list. So it is
apparently still working. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 2:29 PM
Subject: Testing if list up


>It is now about 8PM Centrakl on Sunday. I have had no messages from the
>list since yesterday afternoon.
>
>I checked on news.hplx.net and there are no message their either.
>
>Is the server down? Is it me?
>
>Alan
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:35:38 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP transfer software
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Hi,

Apparently HP no longer provides Transfile 200, but I think it can be found
on the net.

If anyone remembers the URL please feel free to post the URL.

Hope this helps....at least you are a little closer to your goal  :)

Jon

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brenda Clyde Ýmailto:baclyde@APLCOMM.JHUAPL.EDU¨
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 10:39 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: HP transfer software
>
>
> There used to be some windows freeware software available on
> the hp site
> called TRANSFILE 200? Does anyone know where I can get another copy? I
> wiped my hard drive and thought I would be able to go to the previous
> site and get it and now I can't find it. I'm so used to it, i
> don't want
> to learn anything else.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Brenda
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:44:22 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: LED backlight and connector
In-Reply-To:  <199903141200.MAA17616@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> from "Daniel
              Hertrich" at Mar 14, 99 12:00:45 pm
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> I've made my own serial port plug with a few hardware
> parts costing about 3 US$.

Could you write me privately, off list, please, about what parts
you've located for making such a connector?  I was in contact with
a guy about a year back who made "homemade" connectors for the
Garmin series GPS receivers.  He "sold" them like shareware - you
ordered your connectors, and paid him what you thought they were
worth.  He calls it "phrank-ware", or something similar.

I approached him about making a similar connector for the 200LX,
and he seemed interested, but the problem was locating the innards
somewhere.  He only makes the actual molded connector - he has to
buy the connector pins to go inside.

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:48:20 +0100
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From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
Subject:      Re: Modem
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Hi Stan,

> > 56K PC Card Modem for a laptop.  I tried it
> > with my 200LX and it seems to work well
>
> That modem will "work" in the palmtop for a very short call.
> But after any longer use, it will probably burn up the
> palmtop.  The regular Viking PCMCIA modem draws way too much

What do you mean by "burn up" (sorry i am german, so i am not
sure about this expression in this context). Do you mean the
Palmtop will suffer damage or just quickly decharge the batteries. I
am using (for a short time now) a lucent-venus 56k pcmcia-modem.
I did not realize any problems when using the hp200lx with an
power adapter, is there any danger even when using the modem
with an external power supply.
Some time ago i heard about a listing of pcmcia-modems and their
power consumption. Does anybody know where this can be found?

Regards,
Reinhard

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:48:20 +0100
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hi,
> >>After that, (i.e., removing built in apps) can I register more
> EXM-programs in SysMgr instead???
>
> Good question. My quess would be that you could register up to 8 because of
> the limits of the APNAME.LST files.  HOWEVER there's always the possibility
.....

thank you, but i am using smmx now. Btw. I want to thank the guy
(or girl - i accidently deleted the message) who pointed me there.
It`s really great. I did try X-Finder, too, but i think despite looking
great it needs too much precious RAM when purely used as a
program-launcher and adding applications is too unconfortable.

bye
Reinhard

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:59:36 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <1290801522-27293882@talent.com.au> from "Russell Hemery" at Mar
              13, 99 09:29:34 pm
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> No URL..  The software is from Broderbund.. Dont know if they may release
> this version to public or still copywrite/abandonware.  I have a manual and
> software copywrite 1987-89.
>
> Try Broderbund Software..
> 17 Paul Drive San Rafael CA 94903-2101  Tel 415-492-3500  NB  This info is
> 12 years old.

FWIW... I had real negative results dealing with Broderbund a couple of
years back.  I had dug out my wife's old Atari 800 computer, and one
of her favorite games was a Broderbund product called Apple Panic.
Unfortunately, the disk was bad.  The original box said that the
company guaranteed it for life, so I contacted Broderbund.  I really
didn't expect them to have any lying around on the shelf, but I did
hope that someone would be willing to help me and look into it -
after all, it was a lifetime warranty.  Alas, they basically told me
to go take a hike.  The warranty was only for the life of the product,
not my lifetime!  What a joke!!!  The fellow I dealt with absolutely
refused to be any help, wouldn't pursue it further up the line, and
in general was a pain in the ***.  I will never buy another product
from them.  YMMV.

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 02:24:05 -0700
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www.bgmicro.com has AA Panasonic Industrial,akaline batteries for a good
price

These seem to be real strong and are only 4 for $1.59

Look under LMAD (Lets Make A Deal)

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:34:36 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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              Mar 14, 1999 at 04:25:09PM +0100
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1999-03-14-15:25:09 Dejan Radic:

> I've been using intensively my 200LX for 5 years and I feel that there is
> much dirt and dust under the faceplate. Some keys, even after a soft touch,
> make the snapping sound and the Space key seems to have lost one leg (it is
> bended into the left). I'd like to open it, but never had the courage to do
> it. Do you take the faceplate off unscrewing the four screws on the bottom
> (under the rubber legs) or you can do it separately, without unscrewing
> anything(and if so, how?)?

You don't need to go into the back (bottom, through the screws); just peel the
glued-down layer off that's stuck around the keyboard. Slide a thin blade
down at the edge; if you start at a corner it should come up easily. Take it
gentle and slow and you shouldn't have any trouble with messing up the sheet,
though I've not peeled up the bottom of mine around the keyboard, only the
similar sheet around the LCD.

But I fear you're gonna find that something is broken that will be hard to fix
for your space-bar; I just peeled up part of that sheet to peek at mine and it
looks like the space-bar rides on a couple of thin plastic arms at each end,
one of those probably broke.

> I would like you to tell me precisely what the medical grade nitrogen is and
> if I could use 96% alcohol instead. I also didn't understand well the part
> about pouring the nitrogen - did you pour it on the surface under the key or
> on the back of the key?

Well, I'm not the author of that original note, but I'll _betcha_ he didn't
"pour" his medical grade nitrogen, he _blew_ it. Liquid nitrogen is cold
enough you don't want to be using it to clean electronics.

I'd suspect a prefectly reasonable alternative would be one of the cans of
compressed air sold at camera stores and electronics stores for blowing the
dust out of things.

-Bennett

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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John,

The subject of Desqview came up last year and is probably one of those undying
topic akin to "the best word processor" or "the best emailer".

I haven't tried DV on the LX myself (tho like you, I once ran it on a desktop),
but there are probably several people here who have tried.

The consensus I seemed to remember hearing at the time, was that the hit on
memory was too high (after DV loads, the usable area for each region is much
smaller than in SC), and the hit on performance was also severe (picture your
double speed racehorse turned into dancing slugs).

I believe the only version that was suitable for the LX, predates DV 386.

- Longden





John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> on 03/13/99 03:57:19 PM

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Subject:  Desqview?





I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
on my HP200LX and have been watching many comment on how much they like
SC for task switching. I used to run a BBS and used Desqview extensively.
Will Desqview 386 or an earlier version work on the HP200LX? If so, it
seems to me that Desqview (as an actual quasi multitasker) would be much
more powerful than SC.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:04:38 -0800
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              Bradley Johnson <BJohnson@PLATSOFT.COM>
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Good afternoon,

I was wondering if anyone knows of a DOS/command line version of the Palm
Pilot HotSync utility.  I thought it might be useful for storing backups and
additional programs while traveling or as a data input device for the
HP200lx.  Just curious, and yes I do use both on a daily basis. 8-)

Brad

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> I thought I had heard that password protected zip files were fairly secure???

I've seen a couple of programs for breaking ZIP file passwords.
Russ

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I just posted my first message to the mailing list on the subject of Pocket
Quicken Connect.      Following my own advice I trimmed my quicken file and now
have a problem.      Hope someone can help.

As a bit of background
I added Super Carousel to  a 30 mg San Disk 2 weeks ago and appears to be
working fine.
I updated the WWW/lx to version 2 on Monday although I did encounter a problem
when I ran the post22.exe file.   All but two files had a "file fails CRC check"
error when they were open.      No fiddle and postdoc did not encounter the
error.   I have a message out to DA Software but the problem may have spread.

Now to the Quicken problem (which really worries me).      After trimming the
data file, I opened several  accounts.     One file has a problem - "data record
crc error occurred during function".     I retried it several times but get the
same message.        Luckily I backed up a copy to the flash disk last week so
it is not a major disaster.

What is this CRC error and how can I fix it?

Thank you in advance.

Joe

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:17:40 +0100
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              Jasper de Jong <jsdejong@WXS.NL>
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Hi!

This is my very first message to the list, and i've got a question you
guys are probably all sick off.
I want to connect the 200LX to my PC, but only to back up some data etc,
nothing fancy. What is the cheapest option here? Can I solder a cable
myself? Is just a cable enough to connect?

Thanks for your time,
Jasper
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> > After some consideration, I think, the serial port would be the
> > better solution, because of three reasons:
> > 1 - no palmtop manipulation needed
> > 2 - could be controlled by software (serial power on/off)
> > 3 - a fixed plug is more appropriate for use with a
> >     flexible connected LED than a rotating connection.

OK, I'll bite on that.

> I've made my own serial port plug with a few hardware
> parts costing about 3 US$.
> I cannot send it to the list, because I will include
> some pictures.

OK, how about posting the results of testing and the parts list?  Or maybe have
somebody do a little HTML-izing of the info and post it on a web page?

> Stefan Peichl's 'LXPRO' could switch the LED on and off with
> the 'COM1 channel' switch.

Sounds like a worthwile attempt.  Please keep us informed.  If this is of no
interest to the rest of the list, I'm at least interested.
Thanks,
Dan

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Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:29:36 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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hi,
I never install it, but I have deskview 2.7 and 2.6.
They are know as LX compatible,
but I think they use 200K of memory.
email of list if you want one.
regards
Alain

Al
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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:51:22 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, -goe- wrote:

> It doesn't matter, because if you have no EMS, WP will create a larger
> Tempfile. Where? On the RAM-Drive, so it doesn't matter, because RAM
> is RAM. Perhaps the speed will be different, but the guys of good
> ol'WP coded the possibility of loading files limited only by disk
> storage.

The speed will, as you wonder, be slightly faster using EMS.  Which is an
advantage, on the palmtop.  But probably not by a lot.

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Hi All:

     Well, it seems I finally released all the messgaes from Saturday
on thru today. Still not sure what caused the initial problem, except
that I wasn't notified that the LIST had exceeded the "75" threshold as
per usual. As I released more messages, the threshold would be reached
again, and still I was not notified. Must look into this tomorrow.

Again I apologize for the inconvenience...I may never leave town again
<G>

Cheers,

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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>It doesn't matter, because if you have no EMS, WP will create a larger
>Tempfile.
>Where? On the RAM-Drive, so it doesn't matter, because RAM is RAM. Perhaps
the
>speed will be different, but the guys of good ol'WP coded the possibility
of
>loading files limited only by disk storage.

Actually WP is just one example of many which EMS can make a big difference
such as SC, XTREE, Stacker, etc.  I sure others can come up with more.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:18:55 -0600
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>I ask because it would be great if I could make such an
>upgrade on my own, because I'm living in Germany and I
>don't want to send my palmtop over the large, large sea...

Actually we have a dealer overseas.  See my web page at www.times2tech.com

Thanks,
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I don't have any detailed comment, but it is perhaps worth thinking
about how important `hot sync' is if your `live' data is kept on a
PCMCIA card. I used to horse around trying to `hot sync' things,
but once I found I could just move my PCMCIA (and copy the whole
thing, when necessary for backup, to my multi-Gig hard disk) I find
that I don't worry about this much anymore.

I also belong to that (perhaps small) group of users who found
SC not useful. We had some discussion of this a while back either
here or on HPHAND, and, I guess, agreed to disagree about how useful
task switching is. Some find it vital, while I, for one, find it
useless.

At times I have contemplated elaborate links like trying to get my
200 `up' on my LAN. When I think about it for a couple of hours though,
I generally end up by realizing that I can already easily do everything
I need by just moving PCMCIA cards around, and keeping things simple
using DOS commands rather than tailored software.

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've been contemplating the purchase of an HP200LX and have been lurking
> on this list for quite a while now. I recently had decided upon a used
> 8MB Doublespeed, but I just had some unexpected good fortune and that has
> now translated to a 32MB HP200LX from Thaddeus instead of the 8MB.  I
> have Lynn Cavendish's shared insight from an email to thank for that
> decision. ;-) Thanks Lynn! :-)
>
> I've found and purchased a new 30MB Sandisk FC and adapter from
> www.Buycomp.com for approx $100 (which will work well with my digital
> camera too, BTW) and have found an adequate A/C adapter at Radio Shack
> (Cat. No 273-1652B) for approx $12 or $13.  I have now finally decided to
> break my silence and stick my neck out to ask a question.
>
> I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
> on my HP200LX and have been watching many comment on how much they like
> SC for task switching. I used to run a BBS and used Desqview extensively.
> Will Desqview 386 or an earlier version work on the HP200LX? If so, it
> seems to me that Desqview (as an actual quasi multitasker) would be much
> more powerful than SC.
>
> Also, I plan to see if I can develop a convenient way to hot synch my
> HP200LX's DOS software with the same software on my desktop PC using a
> simple network and some freeware file utilities, much like the way the
> PalmPilot can do a hot synch.
>
> I've recently found a supply of shells from the old "Station 100" too, so
> I ordered one. (Sadly, the Station 100 is now out of production.) I would
> like to use that as a base for a hot synch cradle. Who knows what I'll
> come up with. :-)
>
> If anyone else has some comments and/or some personal experience with
> these things, I'd be interested in hearing from you. :-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> President of DataVault Co.
> A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
> Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc
>
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I went to a local second hand store recently and found Harvard Graphic 3.0
(DOS) in a sealed box. I read most of the specs, 286, 640k, etc. I did not
read the requirement for EGA or VGA graphics. Oops, won't work on my LX.

Is there anyone on the list who could use this, or possibly use this package
as a license for an older version that will run on their LX?

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> There used to be some windows freeware software available on the hp site
> called TRANSFILE 200?

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/swindexes/pt200lx_swie.html

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Chris,

Thanks for the excellent comparison among the PalmPilot,
Psion and 200LX. Enjoyed reading the account.

 > One snag is that I love shiny new gadgets. As I type, I can hear the
 > siren song of a Jornada 420. I never learn.

I think this won't be such a bad issue: The battery life is
such that only a few stanzas of the siren song will be
played, then ... :)

Stay strong, me boy! <G>...

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 > Thank you.  I'll be back to software market (much more reasonably priced)
 > soon.  I don't know if you've followed the Palm III software market at all
 > but the equivalent of Time Tracker (Iambic's TimeReporter)costs $109 and

Wow!!!

 > there is no equivalent of WWWLX at all.  Two products (@ $49.95 ea.) give
 > you a text based Web capability and an Email client but no newsgroups.

So that's an "equivalent" but it is a bit toothless. Not
much can be done because of screen limits. HV has severe
limts too for the same reasons, except it is easier with
HV/200LX than PPIII.

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Ed,

<< Good question. My quess would be that you could register up
to 8 because of the limits of the APNAME.LST files. >>

I believe that is the limit.

<< HOWEVER there's always the possibili ty that you could
have several APNAME.lst files and swap them and reset the
machine to load a new set of EXMs. >>

I am not sure that is where the limitation is manifested. I
think that it is in APPMGR.DAT.

In addition to swapping the APNAME.LST, you'll need to swap
the APPMGR.DAT file and that is outright er... eh..
"adventurous"! :)

<<This is something to think about and it isn't easy
since App Mgr seems to create the Apname.lst files on
closing but it doesn't purge the files from App Mgr
itself.>>

By "purge" you mean remove the remnants of the entry in
APPMGR.DAT? That is true. It leaves the stuff in there,
just marks it non-usable. DOS does something like this with
deleted files, just marks the first byte of their name in
the directory. If you want to add and EXM, it'll let you
add it on top of an obsolete one.

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Mina,

<< (Avi, in case you read this: the LCP conne ctions reads
endless arrows down, then maybe one up, then endless
arrows down again, until the screen freezes.) >>

We are on this problem... There is a type of router out
there now, quite popular, which seems to have a bug, and it
does not seem to complay with standards. WWW/LX Plus does
something during the connection which is "by the book", but
the router gets confused and goes into a loop. So far, we
know of about 10 such locations, but I suspect it is in
more...

What we tried to do is two-fold:

1. Contact the manufacturer. We prefer to go through one of
their huge customers, so we can get some attention.

2. We are trying to create a version of WWW.EXE that will
work around this.

<< The other failures (through palmtop.com and Datacomm)
consist of endless "skreeing" noises as the modem tries to
connect but can't.>>

This is a modem that is too fast and will not step down. I
have this at UCLA. On occasions, I left the screeching
going for sometime and eventually the modem at the ISP
_did_ step down. Nothing we can do about ISP modems, sorry.

<< Could the acCIS disaster actually have changed a script
or setting in the palmtop that applies to all connect
ions? Could the modem have failed quite coincidentally? >>

CIS 4 changed your mail box from ASCII to HMI. Login to CIS
via datacomm, then enter

 GO npx-32

there, read the screen options, and convert the mailbox
back to ASCII.

NOTE:::: This _used_ to work. I have no idea if it is still
available. If it is, you are in luck. If not, I suggest to
contact Shier 1805 371 9391 and look at ACCIS 4 if you
require CIS email.

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Anderson - writes:
> is there a program available to allow the sending of sms (short messaging
> service) for the 200lx?  this service is available in gsm pcs coverage areas.

Not that I know of, but if you can point me to a place on the internet
where you can do it via HTTP, then I'm sure someone could whip up a
program based either on LXTCP or ROBOT/LX.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 07:50:28 GMT
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Hi,

> There's a thought. How about replacing the infamous rubberband latch with
> something more solidly engineered, with some of these hitech LEDs mounted
> underneath and directed over the surface of the screen. Then the light'd be
> coming from above...just like a real reading light.

I don'r know if this is good...
Try to watch your screen holding a little lamp near the latch.
What happens? You can see better the dust on the screen than
the text or graphic.
I think it's better if the light comes from this direction
you look at the screen than from another. Especially another
with such a little angle!

> Of course, where the power comes from is still a question....since it was
> mentioned that they'd run off hearing aid batteries, why not just tap
> into the backup lithium? Close enough to the edge of the case that we could
> just jury-rig a switch (heck, ol David Sargeant's even mounted a speaker on
> his case)...and this should provide more incentive to us for regularly
> replacing the battery....just do it when then light goes dim.

The backup battery??!
What will happen, if your main batteries go down and the light
is on?
I think, the plamtop tries to go into backup mode, but the light
needs so much power that there might not be enough left fot the
palmtop... --> Data loss!

>
> BTW, on a related side note, I got a Christmas present of a high-tech key
> ring light called "Star Sapphire" or something like that. It sounds
> something like the LEDs being discussed. The unit puts out an impressively
> bright blue light thru what the box describes as a "solid state light
> source", which sounds like LED, and is powered by lithiums in a sealed
> aluminum case thats about 1.5 in long and maybe a 1/4 in thick....and
> guaranteed for LIFE (send it in if the batteries give out)...that tells me
> the mfg expects to get a reasonably long life out of the otherwise non-user
> replaceable batteries.

Maybe it's a better idea to mount another lithium battery somewhere
on/into/besides the palmtop to power a LED. What about a little
'clip lamp': you clip the lamp on the screen, behind the screen would
be the lithium battery holder, before the screen is a litte arm
holding the LED.
This was a solution making it not necessary to modify the palmtop.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

> If I understood a long discussion of this that was circulated here
> a while back, SANdisk (HP) cards have superior power consumption,
> but are a shade slower than, say, SimpleTech cards.

Sorry, but what has HP to do with SanDisk?

> One caution about TeX. If you normally run TeX on a Laptop or
> Desktop, you may find it quite frustrating to run on the 200. I'm sure
> you can get it to work, but I recall it being so *terribly* slow that
> I found it not useful. On the other hand, I manpiplate my TeX source
> files on the 200 all the time, I just wait until I am at a Lap/Desk Top
> to do the conversion to .DVI.

Do you know about a little utility (I think it's called 'TeXcheck')?
It checks your TeX-file but doesn't compile it. It's much faster
then the compiler. So you can modify your source files, check them
on the LX and wait for the desktop to compile it (and then you know
that there are no errors in the source file.

And if you want to run TeX on your HP, try Stephan Luettjohann's
'LXTEX' (available on SUPER)! It's a very useful arrangement
of LaTeX for the LX with a little Menu-application programmed
with LXBATCH.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

> Could you write me privately, off list, please, about what parts
> you've located for making such a connector?  I was in contact with

Sure, I'll do. It will be a 500KB-email, so it will be better
not to receive it with the 200LX... :-)
I'll send it out at about 7pm MET (Germany).

> a guy about a year back who made "homemade" connectors for the
> Garmin series GPS receivers.  He "sold" them like shareware - you
> ordered your connectors, and paid him what you thought they were
> worth.  He calls it "phrank-ware", or something similar.

This sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately I haven't the
time to make lots of these connectors and sell them...
It also wouldn't work this way, because the cable of the device
you want to connect with this plug must be soldered into the
plug WHILE building it.

GTX
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Hi,

> Apparently HP no longer provides Transfile 200, but I think it can be found
> on the net.
>
> If anyone remembers the URL please feel free to post the URL.

Transfile WIN 200 is from Yellow Computing.
I think they have it on their webpage for download.
Sorry, don't know the URL, but must be something
like 'www.yellow.com'.

GTX
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Hi,

> I want to connect the 200LX to my PC, but only to back up some data etc,
> nothing fancy. What is the cheapest option here? Can I solder a cable
> myself? Is just a cable enough to connect?

You need a cable (available from HP, about 15 US$, I think)
and a software, for example 'Transfile WIN 200'.
The software is made by Yellow Computing and - as far as I know -
availlable on their website.

You can also make the serial cable yourself, all you need is
a serial plur (9 or 25 pin) for your PC, a cable and maybe
my instructions how to make a serial commector for the HP.
If you want it, let me know.

GTX
daniel

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Hi, Avi,
>>In addition to swapping the APNAME.LST, you'll need to swap the
APPMGR.DAT file and that is outright er... eh.. "adventurous"! :)

Being the adventurous sort, I now have two App Mgr sessions and the metho=
d
for having as many sessions as disk space allows. My method uses only a 7=

line batch file and a 44 byte .COM file and one App Mgr slot.   It's mazi=
ng
what can be done with Debug!  Also have the equivalent of Pocket Launcher=

using one App Mgr slot and a System Macro. Let's me run almost any .EXM
file from Filer. =


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>>Ed, I think you may have come up with an idea for a very useful
application
>>So, who is the intrepid soul who will write this application for us?

My method will let you have as many app mgr sessions as disk space allows=
.
The method only needs a 7 line batch file and a 44byte .COM file.  I
thought about having a front-end menu (LXBatch would be a good tool for
this) but why reinvent the wheel: just use an App Mgr session that contai=
ns
icons for all the other sessions--sort of like clicking on a Group box in=

Win3.1.
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>> whats a good hex Ýeditor¨ I can use to edit my APPMGR.DAT?

Try HEX51.ZIP. It's freeware. I got a copy from www.filepile.com in the D=
OS
section. =


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Dan,

HP still has the file for download @
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/swindexes/pt200lx_swie.html

Best,

Bill

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Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: HP transfer software


>Hi,
>
>> Apparently HP no longer provides Transfile 200, but I think it can be
found
>> on the net.
>>
>> If anyone remembers the URL please feel free to post the URL.
>
>Transfile WIN 200 is from Yellow Computing.
>I think they have it on their webpage for download.
>Sorry, don't know the URL, but must be something
>like 'www.yellow.com'.
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
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Al,

Thanks for your diligence in keeping the list up.  We seem to expect alot of
you.

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I bought two of the TDK 32Mb CF flash cards for use in my digital camera.
They also work fine with the PCMCIA adapter in the HPLX. I can't speak
for battery discharge/speed/etc, but 32 Mb for $67 is a pretty darn
good deal. The registration card with the flash card says they will
also send you a free PCMCIA adapter. No association with TDK or
buycomp.com except as a very satisfied customer.

Brian McIlvaine

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I have installed the Colins Dictionary on my HP 200 LX but for some
heavenly
reasons the Dictionary just covers half of my HP screen.

It is a 2 speed 32 MB using Super Software Carousel.

Does anybody know what is going on and could you please help me with
that.

Thnaks
A. Sadri

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:44:45 GMT
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> has anyone tried to connect the HP 100/200 LX to a ISP
> or something else using the Ericson SH888 mobile phone
> (it has a built-in modem with IR-interface, as far as
> I know)?

Tried and failed badly.  The damn thing needs IRDA drivers and the only
ones I found for the HP were for printing only (not really up to
bidirectional use).  To make matters even worse, you can connect
directly up to the phone through a serial connector, which _also_
requires IRDA driver.
What were the engineers at Ericsson smoking ?

Not having the time or skills to write some IRDA level drivers the
phone went back to the shop.  Pity because it was quite a nice phone.

Stuart.

PS. Doesn't one of the D&A wonder team have one of these <grin> ?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:16:49 +1100
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OK, I have been watching this for a while now, and thaught I should
tell of a way to break the password protection on the palmtop.  This is
the main password which does not allow you to see the screen without
entering a password.

Please note that this is a very dangerous method, and is not even
guaranteed to work for you.

I have on three occasions plugged my Simple tech modem in to the
palmtop while the batteries where a little on the low side, and I was
not using the adapter, AND the HP was turned ON.  The result was that
the HP shut down in order to save the memory.

The side affect of this was that the date was reset, and the password
was reset, and no longer asked for when the HP was turned on.

I found this out by pure accident, and do not reccommend trying it at
all.

I just thaught that people should know that it sounds like there is a
possibility that the password could be reset if the power drops too
low, but it has to still be high enough to keep the data :-)

I would be interested in hearing if anyone else has noticed this.


David Eggins



1001 weeks 6 days 15h53m48s ....>> in the future <<....
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:55:21 +0000 (GMT), F. Kaufman <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.A=
TT.NET> wrote:

> > I've always thought the built-in Power-ON password feature (where it =
asks
> > you for a password everytime it is turned on) to be very secure - I =
don't
> > think there is any way to bypass it - not without resetting the unit,
> > which will mean that all data (sensetive or not) is lost anyway. This
> > obviously only applies to files on the built-in RAM drive and will do
> > nothing to protect files on a flashcard.
> >
>
> At one time (maybe still) HP's official support channel had a way to
> break that password.  You had to contact them, provide proof positive
> (fax or letter??) of ownership and they would call you and have you
> provide certain info.  Can't recall the manner of getting the key they
> fed into a program at their end.  A certain key sequence would provide =
a
> code which they used.  So it was pretty secure, actually.
>
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> I have installed the Colins Dictionary on my HP 200 LX but for some
> heavenly
> reasons the Dictionary just covers half of my HP screen.

Dear A.:

That's the normal mode of operation for the Collins dictionary.  I've
asked in the past, and no one knows if/how to change it to a full
screen display.  So rest assured that nothing is busted...

-Chris


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Stuart:

I'm glad to hear your comments.  I was wondering if I could use one
of these phones, and you seemed to have done the research for me.  It
must be too early in the morning  for my brain to work... can you
explain in more detail your comments about the serial port requiring
an IRDA driver?!?!?!  That went right over my head...

-Chris Lott

> Tried and failed badly.  The damn thing needs IRDA drivers and the only
> ones I found for the HP were for printing only (not really up to
> bidirectional use).  To make matters even worse, you can connect
> directly up to the phone through a serial connector, which _also_
> requires IRDA driver.
> What were the engineers at Ericsson smoking ?


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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:28:28 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: 'snappier' keys on the 200LX

Bennett Todd writes:
>
> You don't need to go into the back (bottom, through the screws); just peel the
> glued-down layer off that's stuck around the keyboard. Slide a thin blade
> down at the edge; if you start at a corner it should come up easily. Take it
> gentle and slow and you shouldn't have any trouble with messing up the sheet,
> though I've not peeled up the bottom of mine around the keyboard, only the
> similar sheet around the LCD.

Absolutely right.


> Well, I'm not the author of that original note, but I'll _betcha_ he didn't
> "pour" his medical grade nitrogen, he _blew_ it. Liquid nitrogen is cold
> enough you don't want to be using it to clean electronics.
>
> I'd suspect a prefectly reasonable alternative would be one of the cans of
> compressed air sold at camera stores and electronics stores for blowing the
> dust out of things.

Right again.  In fact, I looked for compressed air, but the only
option available was the nitrogen.  :)

Ted

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Bill Sprague writes:
> Al,
>
> Thanks for your diligence in keeping the list up.


Hear! Hear!

Ted

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Al,

If this is the biggest problem we have, then all is quite well. Thank you
for you efforts. I don't mind delays as much as I would mind the list
disappearing.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Al Kind
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> Hi All:
>
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> Seems the LIST got locked up somehow, but all is well now.
>
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I tried Freyja.exm again recently and rediscovered it's a pretty good Ema=
cs
style editor. The only problem is that it uses red letters in the menus.
They don't show up on the LX.  I can run CGAHLP as a TSR to correct the
problem but was wondering if anyone has figured out how to modify Freyja.=
ri
to change the character attributes.

.ed.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:25:10 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      DesqView?

Hi Mike,

>I don't have any detailed comment, but it is perhaps worth thinking
>about how important `hot sync' is if your `live' data is kept on a
>PCMCIA card. I used to horse around trying to `hot sync' things,
>but once I found I could just move my PCMCIA (and copy the whole
>thing, when necessary for backup, to my multi-Gig hard disk) I find
>that I don't worry about this much anymore.

  Thanks for sharing your point of view on this, Mike. It does sound as
if using a PCMCIA card for occasional backups may be the best solution
for you and many others.

  I have a rather unique situation in which I have only one other machine
that will accept a PCMCIA card, and that is my old laptop. It always
holds a PCMCIA modem card, and I'm rather hesitant to subject those cards
and plugs to the constant endless abuse of card swapping.

  I plan to leave my low power drain 30MB Sandisk CF card plugged into my
HP200LX, and only use it for more available program space and occasional
transfers of new programs to my HP200LX. Since I plan to always kept my
CF card in my HP200LX, if I were to backup only to that card, then
misplacing my HP200LX would also loose my entire backup, as well.

  Besides, as a remote data backup provider, I know from experience that
if backups to a separate media or machine were that much trouble to
accomplish, it would be very unlikely that those backups would actually
be properly done on a regular basis.

  My networked desktops run nightly batch file backups to optical disk
(using a custom mix of DOS commands and simple file utils). Defrags,
mirroring, backups, etc... are all automated by Microsoft Plus's System
Agent. That insures that I will always have current backups and clean
machines. BTW, those backups on optical disk are then stored offsite, as
well.

  For my unique situation, a serially connected hot synch procedure still
seems like the best solution.

>I also belong to that (perhaps small) group of users who found
>SC not useful. We had some discussion of this a while back either
>here or on HPHAND, and, I guess, agreed to disagree about how useful
>task switching is. Some find it vital, while I, for one, find it
>useless.

  Since I don't currently have SC and I expect to run only pure DOS
programs on my HP200LX anyway (when I do actually get it), I anticipate
the need only for a DOS menu, DOS task switcher or a DOS multitasker.
Since I have had experience working with DesqView in the past and already
have a version of that software, it seems logical to pursue that
possibility first.

  If DesqView won't work for me on my HP200LX, I'll resort to testing DOS
5's  shell, and then HDMenu (which I also used along with DesqView, a
long time ago, and still have on hand).

  I should be able to put my HP200LX on my home office lan via a serial
connection for a cost of only about 50K of RAM. That would allow
automatic nightly HP200LX backups and also very convenient
spur-of-the-moment hot synchs before hitting the road. :-)

  Everyone has a unique situation, so I wouldn't expect my possible
solution to be a "one size fits all". I just hope to develop and
contribute yet another possible hot synch/backup solution to the list of
possibles.

  I'd be delighted to hear from all who could contribute some additional
comments, view points or experience to this discussion. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
President of DataVault Co.
A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc

BTW, can anyone suggest other mailing lists and mediums that deal with
the HPLX and where I would find out how to subscribe to each one? I'd be
interested in monitoring and contributing to those, as well. Where would
I find HPHAND, for instance?

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Hi all,

I use WP51 with Buddydos, this combination removes the alt=3D access
to the drop down menus. I fondly remember the F-key overlay and seeing
all that wasted space on the hinge figured a lable might work. Turns
out 6pt type on a 3/8in. lable gives enough room for 5 lines of
readable(if small)type with the functions right over the function keys.
8pt worked also but the lable went from hingecap to hingecap. Hope this
helps some for you WP users.

paul

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:53:54 +0100
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              Christian Meuser <christian.meuser@MUNICH.IXOS.DE>
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Hello Ed, hello list :-)

Have you tried to adjust your screen with  MODE , specially  MODE BW80
I think freya is a DOS aplication, so any settings done in DOS
will touch freya.  If I am wrong my answer is bogus.

Ciao
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Keefe Ýmailto:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 16:00
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Freyja red letters
>
>
> I tried Freyja.exm again recently and rediscovered it's a
> pretty good Emacs
> style editor. The only problem is that it uses red letters in
> the menus.
> They don't show up on the LX.  I can run CGAHLP as a TSR to
> correct the
> problem but was wondering if anyone has figured out how to
> modify Freyja.ri
> to change the character attributes.
>
> .ed.
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I did run DesqView 2.7 (I believe) on my 200LX, and it worked... I could
even start System Manager.  However, it didn't take advantage of EMS, so
the hit on conventional memory was too high-- it left me with something
like 300K, if I recall. I couldn't run anything that required large
amounts of memory, so I abandoned it.

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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Congratulations, this time it worked!

1999-03-17-01:41:54 John J Vanderstel:
> I've Ý...¨ found an adequate A/C adapter at Radio Shack (Cat. No 273-1652B)
> for approx $12 or $13. (500ma)

Cool, R/S adaptors are handy and fine, I've used many of them. But if you
travel, you might want to consider going ahead and getting a genuine HP
adaptor. First off, the prongs on the HP adaptor fold, leaving a compact and
smooth blob that packs really really nicely into a suitcase or briefcase or
fanny-pack or whatever. And second, the HP adaptor is pretty tolerant,
something like 100-240VAC, 50/60Hz.

> I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
> on my HP200LX Ý...¨

It can do that fine, but I suspect that would be a fairly unusual style of
use; for most folks, the built-in PIM software is quite useful for the chores
that the LX ends up doing most of the time. For me, these would be appt book
and database (esp. phonebook). I do periodically run all kinds of other stuff
on it; every night I fire up a nice alarm-clock program, I run VR and carry
dozens of MB of etexts on it; and have scads of other programs downloaded and
occasionally run them.

But if you really expect to be staying out of the System Manager most of the
time, I do think you've got a pretty out-of-the-ordinary plan.

> Also, I plan to see if I can develop a convenient way to hot synch my
> HP200LX's DOS software with the same software on my desktop PC using a
> simple network and some freeware file utilities, much like the way the
> PalmPilot can do a hot synch.

"hot synch" means a handful of different bits.

First off, there's connectivity. With a serial cable, if you were in sysmgr,
you could use the HP connectivity software (Transfile?) to copy files back and
forth. I run on Unix, so I use lxcopy. If you wanted to use ether rather than
serial, once you get a suitable ethernet card, you could use LXTCP. And if
you're planning on completely avoiding sysmgr, you could run some other serial
server (kermit, for example) on the serial port. I expect LXTCP would work
fine outside of sysmgr, though I don't know for sure.

Now once you have connectivity, you need to arrange for file update
reconciliation, and that's totally application-specific. If all you wanted was
backup, it's super-easy; just overwrite your online mirror of the LX's content
with updated files, and periodically check it into a version control system. I
do that on my Unix desktop, totally automated and effortless.

If you want to set up an application-specific merge functionality, that'll
depend entirely on the app. For instance, if I wanted to do "Hot synch"
between database-style apps (phonebook, apptbook), I'd modify the apps to keep
a last-modified field in each record (can be pretty well automated with a
macro on the LX), then I'd use gdbdump to get those records out into CSV
format, and would write a smart merge program, that would build the merged
file with the records common to both DBs, and the records modified or created
in only one or the other of the DBs, and would dump out the records created or
modified on both DBs into a text file for manual reconciliation. Other people
might want other algorithms. As long as you can do some simple text processing
(I use perl), and can get your databases converted into text format and back,
this should be easy to set up. But it will be in every case
application-specific.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:45:24 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Making WP51 easier (for me)
In-Reply-To:  <199903181533.HAA12538@brain.proaxis.com> from "Paul Yarnell" at
              Mar 18, 99 07:33:14 am
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> I use WP51 with Buddydos, this combination removes the alt= access
> to the drop down menus. I fondly remember the F-key overlay and seeing
> all that wasted space on the hinge figured a lable might work. Turns
> out 6pt type on a 3/8in. lable gives enough room for 5 lines of
> readable(if small)type with the functions right over the function keys.
> 8pt worked also but the lable went from hingecap to hingecap. Hope this
> helps some for you WP users.

Paul:

That's a *great* discovery, IMHO.  Let's see, can you send me privately
the word processor file that you made for these function keys?  I see a
whole new set of function key cheat sheets for my palmtop...

Was there any problem with the thickness of the labels and closing the
unit?  Can you tell me specifically what brand/type 3/8 labels you used?

Thanks again,

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:57:23 -0700
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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It's already been done - sort of:  Try using 200Menu (available on
SUPER) and write batch files to do the copying, etc.  I'll try it out,
and post it to the list to let you know what happens.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:01:39 -0600
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              jviehweg@GVMAIL.IH.LUCENT.COM
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Subject:      Re: Making WP51 easier (for me)
Comments: To: pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM
In-Reply-To:  <199903181533.HAA12538@brain.proaxis.com>; from Paul Yarnell on
              Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 07:33:14AM -0800
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On Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 07:33:14AM -0800, Paul Yarnell wrote:
> I use WP51 with Buddydos, this combination removes the alt= access
> to the drop down menus. I fondly remember the F-key overlay and seeing
> all that wasted space on the hinge figured a lable might work. Turns
> out 6pt type on a 3/8in. lable gives enough room for 5 lines of
> readable(if small)type with the functions right over the function keys.
> 8pt worked also but the lable went from hingecap to hingecap. Hope this
> helps some for you WP users.

I just took one of the templates (actually for LetterPerfect, but they
are almost the same as WordPerfect), cut off the F11 and F12 part and
shrunk it with a copy machine.  I don't remember the percentage (maybe
78%??) but it fits almost exactly over the function keys.  It also is
almost the exact distance from the keys to the opening of the lower
part of the hinge.  I just took some "Scotch" tape and cut it to the
same size as the template and fastened it down at each end.  It hasn't
moved in 2 years.

jaime
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:31:17 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Paul Yarnell wrote:

> I use WP51 with Buddydos, this combination removes the alt= access
> to the drop down menus. I fondly remember the F-key overlay and seeing
> all that wasted space on the hinge figured a lable might work. Turns
> out 6pt type on a 3/8in. lable gives enough room for 5 lines of
> readable(if small)type with the functions right over the function keys.
> 8pt worked also but the lable went from hingecap to hingecap. Hope this
> helps some for you WP users.


What!?  You haven't *memorized* the function keys!?


Just kidding--it's an excellent idea.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:31:47 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Question
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SANDisk made cards for HP. I'm not sure that _all_ HP cards were made
by SANDisk (which used to be called SUN Disk, but got confused with
SUN Computers so they changed their name). Indeed the back of my
(clearly labelled) `Hewlett Packard 5mb' flash card says (amongst
other things): `(c) 1994 SunDisk' In any event, we often refer to
the cards as `HP(SanDisk)' or `SanDisk(HP)' as they are the same.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > If I understood a long discussion of this that was circulated here
> > a while back, SANdisk (HP) cards have superior power consumption,
> > but are a shade slower than, say, SimpleTech cards.
>
> Sorry, but what has HP to do with SanDisk?
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:34:26 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: First messy, serial cables
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An alternative, which I regularly use, is to back-up via a Flash
Card. This is (a) easy; (b) fast; and (c) has other advantages (i.e.
it expands your 200 effective memory).

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I want to connect the 200LX to my PC, but only to back up some data etc,
> > nothing fancy. What is the cheapest option here? Can I solder a cable
> > myself? Is just a cable enough to connect?
>
> You need a cable (available from HP, about 15 US$, I think)
> and a software, for example 'Transfile WIN 200'.
> The software is made by Yellow Computing and - as far as I know -
> availlable on their website.
>
> You can also make the serial cable yourself, all you need is
> a serial plur (9 or 25 pin) for your PC, a cable and maybe
> my instructions how to make a serial commector for the HP.
> If you want it, let me know.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Many (most? all?) of us would agree.

I wonder, however, if there is any way that the 75 message / day limits
could be (temporarily) lifted should such a hiatus occur again. Many
(some?, at least one = me) of us would rather be (temporarily) deluged
after a shutdown than to wait a few days at 75 messages/day to clear out
the queues.

Systems Consulting wrote:
>
> Al,
>
> If this is the biggest problem we have, then all is quite well. Thank you
> for you efforts. I don't mind delays as much as I would mind the list
> disappearing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
> 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
> tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
> web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
> Maximizing the results of Information Systems
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Al Kind
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 10:47 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: HPLX-L Alive & Well!
> >
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> >      We're back up & running!
> >
> > Seems the LIST got locked up somehow, but all is well now.
> >
> > Sorry for the inconvenience
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:45:44 -0500
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> David Ness wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > One caution about TeX. If you normally run TeX on a Laptop or
> > Desktop, you may find it quite frustrating to run on the 200. I'm sure
> > you can get it to work, but I recall it being so *terribly* slow that
> > I found it not useful. On the other hand, I manpiplate my TeX source
> > files on the 200 all the time, I just wait until I am at a Lap/Desk Top
> > to do the conversion to .DVI.
>
> Do you know about a little utility (I think it's called 'TeXcheck')?
> It checks your TeX-file but doesn't compile it. It's much faster
> then the compiler. So you can modify your source files, check them
> on the LX and wait for the desktop to compile it (and then you know
> that there are no errors in the source file.
>

Actually, I do. I wrote the original `TeXCheck' in 1989 as a part of
support materials for a book (with Bart Childs and Alan Hoenig) that
we never finished. I assume that the software you are talking about
may be some descendent of that, and if so I am pleased to still find
it in use after 10 years.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:50:25 +0100
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From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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> back late last night. I haven't really monitored the LIST since
> everything else should have been OK. There were some sporatic power
> outages in the area as well, which might have contributed to the
> problem.

I expected it to happen, but not that soon. Year 2000 did not even
begin. Ok, folks, now take your HPLX and get in the bunker (make
sure you have downloaded some good games from SUPER).  ;)

Reinard.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:01:24 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: DesqView?
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Your misdirected response (you mis-attribute the original source to
`Mike', but you are actually quoting me) makes some sense, but I wonder
if your effort (time/money) might not be better spent by buying a
`PCMCIA' slot for your desktop. I have several of my computers tied
together in a little LAN, so I can use any of the slots on any of my
portables as a temporary location for my HP Compact Flash. However,
if I didn't have any spare PCMCIA slots I'd sure buy one (I recall
they were <$100, and probably <$60) just to have it generally available
anyway. At this cost it would be worth a good deal less than an hour
of my time, and I can't imagine developing any `hot-sync' software for
anything like that kind of price...

HPHAND is a bulletin board on Compuserve.

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> >I don't have any detailed comment, but it is perhaps worth thinking
> >about how important `hot sync' is if your `live' data is kept on a
> >PCMCIA card. I used to horse around trying to `hot sync' things,
> >but once I found I could just move my PCMCIA (and copy the whole
> >thing, when necessary for backup, to my multi-Gig hard disk) I find
> >that I don't worry about this much anymore.
>
>   Thanks for sharing your point of view on this, Mike. It does sound as
> if using a PCMCIA card for occasional backups may be the best solution
> for you and many others.
>
>   I have a rather unique situation in which I have only one other machine
> that will accept a PCMCIA card, and that is my old laptop. It always
> holds a PCMCIA modem card, and I'm rather hesitant to subject those cards
> and plugs to the constant endless abuse of card swapping.
>
>   I plan to leave my low power drain 30MB Sandisk CF card plugged into my
> HP200LX, and only use it for more available program space and occasional
> transfers of new programs to my HP200LX. Since I plan to always kept my
> CF card in my HP200LX, if I were to backup only to that card, then
> misplacing my HP200LX would also loose my entire backup, as well.
>
>   Besides, as a remote data backup provider, I know from experience that
> if backups to a separate media or machine were that much trouble to
> accomplish, it would be very unlikely that those backups would actually
> be properly done on a regular basis.
>
>   My networked desktops run nightly batch file backups to optical disk
> (using a custom mix of DOS commands and simple file utils). Defrags,
> mirroring, backups, etc... are all automated by Microsoft Plus's System
> Agent. That insures that I will always have current backups and clean
> machines. BTW, those backups on optical disk are then stored offsite, as
> well.
>
>   For my unique situation, a serially connected hot synch procedure still
> seems like the best solution.
>
> >I also belong to that (perhaps small) group of users who found
> >SC not useful. We had some discussion of this a while back either
> >here or on HPHAND, and, I guess, agreed to disagree about how useful
> >task switching is. Some find it vital, while I, for one, find it
> >useless.
>
>   Since I don't currently have SC and I expect to run only pure DOS
> programs on my HP200LX anyway (when I do actually get it), I anticipate
> the need only for a DOS menu, DOS task switcher or a DOS multitasker.
> Since I have had experience working with DesqView in the past and already
> have a version of that software, it seems logical to pursue that
> possibility first.
>
>   If DesqView won't work for me on my HP200LX, I'll resort to testing DOS
> 5's  shell, and then HDMenu (which I also used along with DesqView, a
> long time ago, and still have on hand).
>
>   I should be able to put my HP200LX on my home office lan via a serial
> connection for a cost of only about 50K of RAM. That would allow
> automatic nightly HP200LX backups and also very convenient
> spur-of-the-moment hot synchs before hitting the road. :-)
>
>   Everyone has a unique situation, so I wouldn't expect my possible
> solution to be a "one size fits all". I just hope to develop and
> contribute yet another possible hot synch/backup solution to the list of
> possibles.
>
>   I'd be delighted to hear from all who could contribute some additional
> comments, view points or experience to this discussion. :-)
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> President of DataVault Co.
> A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
> Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc
>
> BTW, can anyone suggest other mailing lists and mediums that deal with
> the HPLX and where I would find out how to subscribe to each one? I'd be
> interested in monitoring and contributing to those, as well. Where would
> I find HPHAND, for instance?
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:10:50 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> > I'm planning to run mostly DOS software instead of the built-in software
> > on my HP200LX Ý...¨
>
> It can do that fine, but I suspect that would be a fairly unusual style of
> use; for most folks, the built-in PIM software is quite useful for the chores
> that the LX ends up doing most of the time. For me, these would be appt book
> and database (esp. phonebook).


This got me to thinking about my use of the 200LX.  Here
is an overview of my usage:

Daily Use
=========
  Built-in    Add On
  --------    ------
  ApptBook    HP Alarm Clock  (J. Wallgren)
  Phone       LXTCP/PNR  (R. Whitby)
  Filer       List  (V. Buerg)
  Memo        VR  (G. Kohl)
  HPCalc      TT/LX  (D&A)
  1-2-3       Yahtzee, 10k, Dominoes, Freecell  (C. Cameron!)
  Setup
  SysMacro

Weekly Use
==========
  Built-in    Add On
  --------    ------
  DataComm    WPerfect 5.1
  PQuicken    LXPIC  (S. Piechl) (sp?)

Occasional Use
==============
  Built-in    Add On
  --------    ------
  cc:Mail     QFax  (A. Mai)
  WorldTime   PGP  (P. Zimmerman)
  Stopwatch   Prince of Persia  (Broderbund)
              Norton Utilities  (DiskEdit, FileFind, WipeInfo)

A few comments are in order.  I rarely exit the SysMan, using
MaxDos whenever I need to run a large DOS program.  In most cases
these are bound to Fn-Fx with System Macros.  I also have a variety
of small DOS utilities including mpack/munpack, interlnk/intersvr,
edlin (can you say retro-grouch?), zip/unzip, jetutil, and arce.

A couple of other things I keep around but rarely use are
Remote Commander (?), Palmtop Periodic Table (O. Samuelson),
and Tuner (Ringoro?).

Hope this information is at least interesting, if not useful,
to this wonderful group.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:11:42 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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The alternative view is that junk happens even on days other than
31 December 1999, and if all of the problems are only as bad as those
caused by the HPLX-L list outage, then there really _isn't_ much to
worry about.

I am putting in a good hearty supply of caviar and several good bottles
of champagne, however, and have begun to _hope_ that there will be
some outage so that I can consume these `back-up' supplies.

Reinhard Mueller wrote:
>
> I expected it to happen, but not that soon. Year 2000 did not even
> begin. Ok, folks, now take your HPLX and get in the bunker (make
> sure you have downloaded some good games from SUPER).  ;)
>
> Reinard.
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:13:33 -0500
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From:         Tony Hutchins <th@CSI.COM>
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Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:11:45 +0000 (GMT)

05h21m30s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:50:15 -0800 (PST), Stu Foster wrote:

> Not having the time or skills to write some IRDA level drivers the
> phone went back to the shop.  Pity because it was quite a nice phone.
>
> Stuart.
>
> PS. Doesn't one of the D&A wonder team have one of these <grin> ?

The latest WWW.EXE has support for IR. I have it working on the Nokia
8810. I heard reports of it working with the SH888. You just need
Port=-1 in WWW.CFG and also Baud of 38400 for double speed palmtop, 19200 for
single speed palmtop.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:37:08 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Report on LXTCP
Content-Type: text

I wanted to report to the list how I've been experimenting with using
Rod Whitby's excellent LXTCP/PNR package to connect to my ISP.  Here
is a list of the different methods I need to connect, and the ones I've
tested have an asterix by them:

  - work/ethernet-direct (*)
  - home/modem (*)
  - church/ethernet via modem-router gateway
  - mobile/cellular (*)
  - portable/modem-acoustic-coupler

Because of the independent nature of the packages' elements, I expect
that the other two methods will work without any problems.  If I learn
otherwise, or learn any tips, I'll report back to the list.

To manage these different connections, I just had to make some minor
changes to my two configuration files (the PPPD.CFG and the WATTCP.CFG
files).  Now I need figure out a batch file approach to automating all these
different access methods I have.  (Unless someone already has done this.
Don't want to re-invent the wheel!  I'm thinking of an LXBATCH application)

This is a great collection of programs!  I'm sold!!  Recommended highly.

-Chris


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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:57:48 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Mystery of the Missing .NDB

Well - thank heaven's for back-ups *OF* back-ups....

Anyone know what can wipe out a whole .NDB?

My Notes.NDB file suddenly went from more than 60 records to 0!!!

It wasn't corrupt, that I could tell, just empty. Nothing else on the
palmtop seems to have been lost or damaged.   The only "bad" thing/trouble
I've had lately was with a different program.  I exited a program that tried
to save to the Compactflash card on exit, and the card wasn't in the palmtop
- I *did* lose some data there, because the program continued to quit BUT it
wasn't loaded from, nor did it affect the drive where the .NDB was
stored....

I discovered this loss just AFTER I backed-up the C:\_DAT directory AND
overwrote a good back-up with the bad file. <Sigh> Doesn't that always seem
to be the case?

My good fortune is that I've occasionally copied the majority of the palmtop
memory to a spot on my laptop's HDD and was able to restore the data Ýhalf
the D:\_DAT\NOTES.NDB and half my stuff - I can *always* get back the stuff
from the d-drive and I lost maybe two small modifications to my stuff, that
I can recreate¨.

Just wondering what could zap just one file - is there any possible
"operator head-space" error I could've done Ýlike press "PURGE RECORDS" at a
prompt somewhere ;-) ¨  ?

Only trying to head it off in the future - no catastrophe at the moment -
AND I'm backing up even MORE carefully now!


Have a great one!

--tim


CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:38:34 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

01h38m04s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, David Ness wrote:

> Many (most? all?) of us would agree.
>
> I wonder, however, if there is any way that the 75 message / day limits
> could be (temporarily) lifted should such a hiatus occur again. Many
> (some?, at least one =3D me) of us would rather be (temporarily) =
deluged
> after a shutdown than to wait a few days at 75 messages/day to clear =
out
> the queues.

     If I remove the message threshold, then we open ourselves up to a
SPAM flood (not that it could ever happen to this congenial bunch <G>).
I try to adjust the threshold such that 99% of the time it never gets
reached. I usually get a notice for the other 1% of the time and the
messages get released I a few hours, and it is seldom more the 10-15.

     Occassionally(~0.1%?), Sh*t just happens ;-) Probably wouldn't
have been so bad this time if I had caught it sooner, but my flight
from New Orleans to Hartford took days rather than hours.

Cheers,

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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I understand, and surely your existing policy is very good.

You know best how much trouble this all is, and I am most assuredly
not trying to cause any more of it!

Al Kind wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
>      If I remove the message threshold, then we open ourselves up to a
> SPAM flood (not that it could ever happen to this congenial bunch <G>).
> I try to adjust the threshold such that 99% of the time it never gets
> reached. I usually get a notice for the other 1% of the time and the
> messages get released I a few hours, and it is seldom more the 10-15.
>
>      Occassionally(~0.1%?), Sh*t just happens ;-) Probably wouldn't
> have been so bad this time if I had caught it sooner, but my flight
> from New Orleans to Hartford took days rather than hours.
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:57:17 -0600
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Foster <sfml1@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?


> has anyone tried to connect the HP 100/200 LX to a ISP
> or something else using the Ericson SH888 mobile phone
> (it has a built-in modem with IR-interface, as far as
> I know)?

Ive been trying to get a Wireless cellular internet connection setup for
a while now.  But noone at Sprint +AT&T or anyone else ive talked to
seems to know whats up.  The Ericson SH888 (PCS 1900/AMPS) looks
great either via IR or serial, but so far i havent been able to find a US
service which supports it.  Sprint said they are CDMA and that the
Ericsson phone is TDMA (although i havent been able to confirm this
with Ericsson) so it will not work with their system, the told me it was
only useful in Europe, but I think they really are clueless.  Anyone have
any ideas about setting up digital cellular data in the US?

Thanks in advance.

Dan
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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:13:30 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Making WP51 easier (for me)

   >I use WP51 with Buddydos, this combination removes the access
   >to the drop down menus. I fondly remember the F-key overlay and

<Snip>
   >paul

AFAIK, the drop down menus are an option in setup. Shift F1,
Display. Also, I think you can access them by pressing Alt + =

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:13:36 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: collins dict...

   >I have installed the Colins Dictionary on my HP 200 LX but for some
   >heavenly
   >reasons the Dictionary just covers half of my HP screen.
   >Thnaks
   >A. Sadri

I have the original version, 1991, and it loads as an executable
full-screen, but if loaded as a tsr, with hot-key pop-up option,
it comes up half-screen.

The command for full-screen stand-alone is concise -M to run in
monochrome, and for pop-up the command is concise -R -M

HTH


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:13:41 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Freyja red letters

   >I tried Freyja.exm again recently and rediscovered it's a pretty
   >good Ema= cs
   >style editor. The only problem is that it uses red letters in the
   >menus. They don't show up on the LX.  I can run CGAHLP as a TSR to

I don't know if this will help with Freyja, as I haven't used it,
but I have some old Norton tools that come up in "difficult"
colors on my palmtop, so I use the following batch file.

@echo off
mode bw80
ndd /q
mode co80

I hope this helps.

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katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:13:47 +1300
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Subject:      Re: removing built-in apps from app mgr

I haven't seen anybody mention "Launcher" yet, so I will! I find
it amazing for two major reasons.

1. It is virtually unlimited in the number of apps it can
"Launch" being a text file, it is easily modified and does not
affect appmanager at all.

2. It is brought up with a hot-key so you can bring it up anytime
to launch something. Using the appmanager leaves that front-end
open, taking a little precious ram.

Launcher also links extremely well with Tasklist. This app allows
you to close the filer without opening it, to terminate all,
close all, or just see what is running and swap to the one you
want.

All available on the fabulous "Super" site...


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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:31:38 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: collins dict...
In-Reply-To:  <199903182013.JAA29497@fep1-orange.clear.net.nz> from "David
              Lawrence" at Mar 19, 99 09:13:36 am
Content-Type: text

> I have the original version, 1991, and it loads as an executable
> full-screen, but if loaded as a tsr, with hot-key pop-up option,
> it comes up half-screen.
>
> The command for full-screen stand-alone is concise -M to run in
> monochrome, and for pop-up the command is concise -R -M

Apparently you have a different version than is currently sold.
The -M option doesn't do anything on mine - also, you have a
different executable - mine is cole1.exe.  Does anyone know how
to invoke full screen mode on the latest version?  Your message
gives me hope...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:37:01 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
In-Reply-To:  <002201be7179$867d6960$8494a8c0@dan-dell.pulitzer.net> from "Dan
              Ridenhour" at Mar 18, 99 01:57:17 pm
Content-Type: text

> Anyone have
> any ideas about setting up digital cellular data in the US?

Dan:

I can use mine (Ericsson CF388) with my HP200LX using their DC-12
PCMCIA interface card.  It looks like a modem on COM2 to the computer.
I've been successful with plain ole datacomm application, and with
Rod Whitby's PNR.  I wasn't ever able to get it working with WWW/LX
for some reason, although Avi and others have said that the latest
release of WWW will support cell phones.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:09:09 -0330
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              Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
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From:         Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
Subject:      Re: Screenshots
Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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Send reply to:          "Stephan Goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
From:                   "Stephan Goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
To:                     "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
        "Andy" <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
Subject:                Re:      Screenshots
Date sent:              Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:56:58 +0100

> >I'd like to see any good screenshots of the 200LX screen while
> >running one of its major applications.  Preferably camerashots.
>
>
> On monday you can get some URL of some nice screenshots of:
> - the major apps on LX
> - MS Flight Simulator 4.0 on LX
> - WordPerfect 5.1 on LX
> - PlanPerfect 5.1 on LX (spreadsheet-brother of WordPerfect)
>

Where can I find them?

Thanks.

Also, are they photographs?

> etcetera
>
> -goe-
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:39:09 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Freyja red letters
In-Reply-To:  <199903182013.JAA29525@fep1-orange.clear.net.nz> from "David
              Lawrence" at Mar 19, 99 09:13:41 am
Content-Type: text

> I don't know if this will help with Freyja, as I haven't used it,
> but I have some old Norton tools that come up in "difficult"
> colors on my palmtop, so I use the following batch file.
>
> @echo off
> mode bw80
> ndd /q
> mode co80

Also, you can run the Norton utilities with the /BW switch...

NI /BW
NDD /BW

Unfortunately, when you run the Norton Integrator like this, it doesn't
automatically put the switch on the command line for all the auxilliary
programs, so you have to add it manually.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:40:14 -0600
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-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?


>> Anyone have
>> any ideas about setting up digital cellular data in the US?
>
>Dan:
>
>I can use mine (Ericsson CF388) with my HP200LX using their DC-12
>PCMCIA interface card.  It looks like a modem on COM2 to the computer.
>I've been successful with plain ole datacomm application, and with
>Rod Whitby's PNR.  I wasn't ever able to get it working with WWW/LX
>for some reason, although Avi and others have said that the latest
>release of WWW will support cell phones.

Chris,
Thats excellent, but what cellular provider are you using?   Ive been
getting
the run around for a while now with Sprint, AT&T, SWBW, etc.  It seems noone
knows what they really can and cant do.  Is the CF388 a digital phone?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>
>-Chris Lott
>
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In-Reply-To:  <000601be717f$86dbf560$8494a8c0@dan-dell.pulitzer.net> from "Dan
              Ridenhour" at Mar 18, 99 02:40:14 pm
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> >I can use mine (Ericsson CF388) with my HP200LX using their DC-12
> >PCMCIA interface card.  It looks like a modem on COM2 to the computer.
> >I've been successful with plain ole datacomm application, and with
> >Rod Whitby's PNR.  I wasn't ever able to get it working with WWW/LX
> >for some reason, although Avi and others have said that the latest
> >release of WWW will support cell phones.
>
> Chris,
> Thats excellent, but what cellular provider are you using?   Ive been
> getting
> the run around for a while now with Sprint, AT&T, SWBW, etc.  It seems noone
> knows what they really can and cant do.  Is the CF388 a digital phone?

Dan:

I'm sorry - I neglected to mention this.  I'm using PowerTel, a local
PCS (GSM) digital cell phone provider.  There's one other palmtop user
here in Huntsville who is using his palmtop with their service, also.

I noticed that they weren't very knowledgable at my local store, but
they were very willing to help me iron out some problems.  I also was
given phone number for a central help desk, where they were reasonably
helpful, and somewhat knowledgable.  YMMV.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:11:46 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 02:40 PM 18/03/99 -0600, you wrote:
>-----Original Message-----
>From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 2:38 PM
>Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
>
>
>>> Anyone have
>>> any ideas about setting up digital cellular data in the US?
>>
>>Dan:

Hi all

I have used GSM in Australia/Asia with data connections for a while.

USA is different system I believe but the info search is the same.

1) Contact the Phone manufacturer and ask for their DATA/FAX department
2) Ask the Data department for their direct contact numbers/emails as well
as what telephone networks will support DATA in your area. Contact Names and
info for the Tel Co?
3) Contact the Telephone company persons referred to in #2 and ask what you
need to do for a LAPTOP connection.  They get funky if you say DOS or
palmtop initially..

ie My network provider "locked" the speed at 9600 and I was having trouble
trying to connect at 2400 to reduce errors <grin>

Later you can mention Palmtop once the Phone side of the connection is
sorted if needs be. ie If you have access to a laptop with Windoze..use it
to make sure phone connection is ok first. The techs are more familiar with
the software etc.

Australian Web site  www.digitalworld.com.au where I obtained very useful
help from Mark the owner on digital connection for Aust.

Email me if any questions.

Russell

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I tried using multiple APNAME.LST and APPMGR.DAT files and it seems to
work just fine (As Ed Keefe has already pointed out.)  I used 200 Menu
and a few batch files to copy the files for the configuration I wanted.

As it was just experimental stuff, I didn't go to a lot of effort to
make anything really elegant, but it works and could be servicable.   I
would recommend Ed Keefe's idea of using a hex editor on a copy of the
APPMGR.DAT, so that you don't have to go through the hassle of setting
up SMMx, MoreEXM, etc. again.  Be careful not to copy over the wrong
files.

I don't really need to run that many programs, so just two 'setups' is
enough for me, but I'm sure that it would be limited only by your disk
space and ambition.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:39:16 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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> Have you tried to adjust your screen with  MODE , specially  MODE BW80

Christian,
Thank you for the hint ! MODE BW80 works very well with
Collins Dictionary and Thesaurus which was hardly readable.
This will be my favorite DOS command !
Regards
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:47:05 -0800
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California and Nevada has Pacific Bell Wirless which uses PCS 1900 on their
GSM network.  I have a gsm datacard and have successfully used wireless
data/fax through it.

Try http://www.pbwireless.com/

-Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stu Foster <sfml1@IBM.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 6:45 AM
>Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
>
>
>> has anyone tried to connect the HP 100/200 LX to a ISP
>> or something else using the Ericson SH888 mobile phone
>> (it has a built-in modem with IR-interface, as far as
>> I know)?
>
>Ive been trying to get a Wireless cellular internet connection setup for
>a while now.  But noone at Sprint +AT&T or anyone else ive talked to
>seems to know whats up.  The Ericson SH888 (PCS 1900/AMPS) looks
>great either via IR or serial, but so far i havent been able to find a US
>service which supports it.  Sprint said they are CDMA and that the
>Ericsson phone is TDMA (although i havent been able to confirm this
>with Ericsson) so it will not work with their system, the told me it was
>only useful in Europe, but I think they really are clueless.  Anyone have
>any ideas about setting up digital cellular data in the US?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:51:32 +0000
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IT WORKS!

I got one of these new LEDs, connected + to pin 5 (=3Dground)
of the 9-pin female end of the connectivity cable and - to
pin 6 (=3DDTR). You may also use pin 2 or 8 for -. If it doesn't
work for you, just change the polarity, it's a diode ;-)

The LED is so bright, that it illuminates the palmtop in
complete darkness!

You may use SERCTL or my LXPRO to switch the light on and off.

I have it running for one hour now, and the battery voltage
didn't drop at all!

That proves: it can be done from the serial port without any
modification of the palmtop.

There is only one problem: I have to keep the LED about 30 cm
away from the palmtop to illuminate the whole screen. If I put
it closer, the light is focused at that part of the screen
where I put the LED.

The LED I use is from Conrad Electronics (part # 15 37 45-60).
It has a diameter of 5 mm, an angle of reflection of 20 degree
and emits 3000 mcd. I guess the angle of reflection is too
small. There is a 3 mm LED in the catalogue with an angle
of 40 degree, but with only 900 mcd.

I strongly encourage others to do similar tests with similar
LEDs. Maybe an optical system has to be used to diffuse the
light to the screen from a closer distance.

Please note: Any tests are at your own risk. (But nothing would
have been invented without taking some risk ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:12:44 +0000
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Great site on getting started with idealist!

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ucs/documentation/beg/beg5.pdf


Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:19:20 -0600
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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Great!

Now who's going to make/sell these for the hardware-inept?

Terry Owen
towen@quintrex.com

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>
> IT WORKS!
        <details snipped>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:55:57 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi, David,

You like Pocket Launcher?  It's pretty good but how would you like to hav=
e
the same results but at the expense of only one System Macro? =


 ÝSetup:¨  copy any .exm file to c:\_dat\temp.exm.  =

 Install c:\_dat\temp.exm In app mgr with the name &What Ever. =

 Use any icon and any hot key. (I use an empty icon and Ctrl+F10)
 At this point you can start TEMP.EXM. You can move the icon to any slot =
in
A Mgr.
 In System Macro, assign the following to an unused slot =

 {F2}c:\_dat\temp.exm{Enter}Y{More}{F3}{F10}{Ctrl+F10}
 ÝUsage:¨  In Filer point at another .EXM file and run the System Macro.
The program should start. You can now run the What Ever program by pressi=
ng
the hot key. You can also try another EXM program if you like. =

 =

 The trick is in the {F3}{F10} keys. Without them, you'd need a
three-fingered salute to the Palmtop. With them you get the same effect a=
s
Launcher. =

 =

 If you want to press Enter rather than a macro key, you can try somethin=
g
like PNS or the Stuffkey/Stuffstring functions in LXBatch along with a
suitable entry in Filer.ini.  Right now I'm satisfied with the frugality =
of
the system macro.

.ed.ÝPTP¨, a.k.a. The Frugal Hacker<g> =

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:02:08 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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For some reason, I can't get "Pick" (the file selector) to
work with PalEdit. I've specified it correctly in the .cfg
file (both with and without the path and extension), tried
moving Pick into the same directory as PE... but no luck.
When I try and open a file, it brings up the same old box.

The line I have in pe.cfg is:
Chooser=3Dc:\utils\editor\pick.exe

What am I missing here?

Thanks for any help,

 -Mike

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:57:40 -0700
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Has anybody ever tried the new Iomega Clik! drive?  (How about a
review?)
I didn't see anything about DOS drivers for it on their web site, has
anybody considered writing any?

Richard Smith

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:32:39 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Russell Hemery writes:
> http://www.mtn.co.za/sms/ is a web site that can send SMS via web..  Anyone
> up to the challenge?  Email>SMS would be a great gateway for us I
> sense..maybe via HPLX.NET?

The web page that Russell quotes is just a HTML FORM.  I'm pretty sure
that you could download the page to your HP200LX, and run it up under
WWW/LX to submit the form.

Alternatively, someone can add to HTGET running on top of LXTCP and
create a command-line SMS message sender.

I don't have a mobile phone (and yes I do work for Motorola), so I
don't have a lot on incentive to do the actual work, but I will help
anyone who wants to create such an application with LXTCP.

But to repeat, you can probably do it right now just using WWW/LX.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:16:05 +0100
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              Jasper de Jong <jsdejong@WXS.NL>
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> An alternative, which I regularly use, is to back-up via a Flash
> Card. This is (a) easy; (b) fast; and (c) has other advantages (i.e.
> it expands your 200 effective memory).

Thanks all for helping me on the connectivity subject!
I'm not exactly well informed when it comes to flash cards, but i do
know my dad has 2 laptops with pcmcia slots. Do those take the same
cards? In that way i could also transfer files to and from a 'normal'
pc, to add some software etc...


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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:09:04 -0600
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>

> There is only one problem: I have to keep the LED about 30 cm
> away from the palmtop to illuminate the whole screen. If I put
> it closer, the light is focused at that part of the screen
> where I put the LED.

How about a diffusing lens to spread the light?

David

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:06:47 +0900
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Thanks David,

I am a new user with this so I do not very much understand about that.
I tried your advice but I got a bad command reply.
I did it at c: prompt and put it like this:
cole1 -M      and also  cole1-M
cole1 -R -M  and also  cole1-M -R

but neither of them work, do you have any idea what it might be?

Thanks again
Andy

David Lawrence wrote:

> Thanks for using NetForward!
> http://www.netforward.com
> v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
>
>    >I have installed the Colins Dictionary on my HP 200 LX but for some
>    >heavenly
>    >reasons the Dictionary just covers half of my HP screen.
>    >Thnaks
>    >A. Sadri
>
> I have the original version, 1991, and it loads as an executable
> full-screen, but if loaded as a tsr, with hot-key pop-up option,
> it comes up half-screen.
>
> The command for full-screen stand-alone is concise -M to run in
> monochrome, and for pop-up the command is concise -R -M
>
> HTH
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:27:50 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hey Mike(& All):

02h24m17s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> For some reason, I can't get "Pick" (the file selector) to
> work with PalEdit...
>
> The line I have in pe.cfg is:
> Chooser=3Dc:\utils\editor\pick.exe

How much memory are you allocating? I find PE+PICK needs 250K

HTH,

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:53:29 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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You need no technical knowledge or any tools to connect a LED
to the palmtop. All you need is the connectivity cable.

9-pin female plug front view
----------------------------

    put LED long leg (+) into pin 5
    |
  --|----------
  \ o o o o o /
   \ o o o o /
     --|----
       |
       put LED short leg (-) into pin 8

You may plug the LED just into the wholes. Make sure, you
issued SERCTL/W from the command line, to switch serial power
on. If your LED legs are of equal length, just try it the other
way round if it doesn't work.

Now this is already the absolutely low cost ($3) solution if
you always want to carry the connectivity cable around. Just
keep the LED in your wallet and plug it into the cable whenever
you need light.

Take the palmtop and the cable and go to your local electronic
dealer. Try out some of these new bright LEDs and get the best.

Once you have one, you will see which problem has to be solved
concerning the light diffusion if the LED is close to the
palmtop.

The more people think about it, the better the solution will be.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:30:17 GMT
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> >>> any ideas about setting up digital cellular data in the US?
> I have used GSM in Australia/Asia with data connections for a while.

Ditto, most of Europe and NZ seemed to work. I get to try Asia in
July/August.

The problem with the US is that they have about 3 different "digital"
networks.
GSM1900 (what they call PCS, PCN or Fido in Canada I think) uses the same
standards as Europe/Aus/Asia/NZ just on a different frequency so all
the same data-cards should be compatible with the equivalent phones.

CDMA and TDMA are different again but you have the right idea about
finding out info. On the whole with the number of payphones around you
might be better off using an acoustic coupler and a 1-800 ISP (worked
for me).

> ie My network provider "locked" the speed at 9600 and I was having =
trouble
> trying to connect at 2400 to reduce errors <grin>

Under GSM I wouldn't have thought this would have mattered, you are
making a digital connection so 9600 should be an error corrected link
anyway.  (the whole standard is based on a multiplex ISDN standard IIRC
and has provision for a 64K digital link if you are willing to pay for
8 channels <grin>).

For the record I'm using a Psion Gold adaptor card and 8110 "banana"
phone on GSM900.  This has successfully worked from numerous tents and
road side lunch stops, although the roaming charges when I was
travelling around Italy got a little high.

The nice thing about the GSM data adaptor (not technically a modem")
is that they look exactly like a modem to the palmtop so I just swap
between the Megahertz 14k4 x-jack and the gold card depending on how
close to the phone line I am. (This reply was sent while waiting for
the BR train to get into Fenchurch St, London).

It nice to see some other wireless HP users out there.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:39:06 +0100
Reply-To:     -goe- <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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The screenshots (photos) of Apps on the LX are online now:

http://www.goeldi.com/lx/

-goe-

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Date:         Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:17:24 +0200
Reply-To:     davidb@netmedia.net.il
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      ABCDEMO Problem - NOT

Regarding the bug which I had while charging:

What I did was this. I started the palmtop charging and then exitted from
sytem manager (& Menu Application Terminate-All). I then started working in
Turbo c++. The screen did NOT fade but after a while of just sitting there
(I didnt do anything to the palmtop except occaisionallly press a key to see
that it was "alive"), the machine locked up. Could it be that the function in
the palmtop which modifies the contrast during charging requires that SysMgr
is running? In all fairness I must say that I dont see any problem here which
could be caused by ABC.

By the way, my flash card is a 30Mb "Eagle Tec" compact flash with adaptor.
According to the info I have the card uses a max current of 56ma. This should
be ok for the palmtop. I was not actually accessing the flash card at the time.

The power adaptor that I have is an HP original rated at 750mA. ABCDEMO was not
dead and was working after I did the reset. By the way what is meant by ABCDEMO
committing suicide after 30 hours? I know it stops working but is this a mass
suicide?

I am still investigating...



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David Becher
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Folks,

Is there a list somewhere of which of the HP
calculator printers will work with the HP200LX?

Also has anyone tried to get the gameboy printer
to work with the HP200lx?
--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Irving Ian Liao wrote:
>=20
> Hi all,
>     I have 6MB/DS HP200LX upgraded (I assume) by Times2Tech
> as I see the spd31.sys in a dir - c:\upg.  I purchased this
> pre-owned set from someone abt 3 yrs ago.
>=20
>     Now unlike most people I know locally who have a
> upgraded set as well when you do ctrl-alt-del (or
> ctrl-shift-on), I don't get a normal screen which can be
> read.  Mine looks pretty garbled to me - aka the words are
> in somekind of form, not English... .
>=20
>     Now, I was hoping to run minix off the LX and the advice
> is to unload spd31.sys. I find this to be true as my set
> locks up whenever I do a minix boot with the spd31.sys
> file.  However, without the spd31.sys, I can't make out
> anything as the characters go "berzerk".  I was also hoping
> to get my LX to boot from A: but the alt menu is not legible
> so I can't make out which option I'm supposed to choose.
>=20
>     Now can anyone help by telling me what causes this and
> if there's anything I can do abt it?
>=20
> Thanks ppl,
> irVIng
> --
> "Well, so the dream wasn't all that peaceful. Besides, I
> don=92t dream in color, so why should my palmtop?"
>=20
> Team LX200 - (True) Mobile computing in the palm of your
> hand... .
> UIN: 1190060  URL: http://w3.to/vi
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Irving!! I had my 200lx upgrade by Thaddeus computing inc and along w=
ith
the upgrade they sent me a list of fixes like "What to do when your
palmtop screen is=20
garbled and using a flash card as boot device and a lot other goodies=
.
I could fax you a copy if you can let me know your fax number.

                              Bob Elliott Jr

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About a month ago

figliozi wrote:
>
> ...and another idea to bounce off the group...
>
> I am also starting a project to get my 200LX to interact with my Nokia
> 6160 cell phone.  I hate to admit it, but I sometimes (frequently) do
> business in my car, and I am constantly having to look up phone
> numbers (more than the 199 that can fit inside the phone).  I realize
> the danger in doing this, so I am investigating a way to allow the
> 200LX to control the Nokia for dialing, and to allow me to choose
> numbers without taking my eyes off > the road.
>
> I am thinking about putting together a program which talks to me
> (similar to an IVR) using a program I found on the supersite, which
> would link to my contact database, and then send commands to the Nokia
> for dialing (I may need to add an external speaker to do this).  I
> want the "send" interface to allow me to use a single keypress (i.e.
> spacebar) to cycle through the options, so I can feel for the key
> without taking my eyes off the road.  I know Microsoft is working on a
> version of Win CE for cars to do stuff lke this, and although I am
> quite familiar with VB, I think CE is a P.O.S. and am not much
> impressed with any of the CE handheld devices.  I think most of
> the pieces to do this already exist and run fine in the DOS world, and
> can be cobbled together for a proof of concept.
>
> I recently bought some software and a serial data cable ($59) from
> Paragon Software (www.paragonsoftware.com) which allows the Nokia to
> connect to a desktop PC over a serial cable and synchronize its
> contact database with Outlook.  the cable should work with the 200LX
> serial cable with a null-modem adaptor inserted.  I plan on decoding
> the protocol with a serial protocol analyzer and use it with the 200LX
> to manipulate the phone (apparently Nokia is very tight-lipped about
> documenting the protocol without paying $$$ for the documentation).
>
> Any comments are appreciated!  Am I foolhardy to try this!  I may
> prototype this first in Perl (or Clipper), then convert to a compiled
> executable.  My goal is to get it working on a 2MB 200LX with a
> flashcard to hold the phone database (not necessarily the built-in
> phone database, but possibly a dbf file), but I am not averse to
> upgrading the memory if I need to.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Figliozzi
>

I advised strongly that I thought this approach was foolhardy, but
then had to leave for a Meeting on the West Coast and I don't read
newsgroups (shame, shame) while travelling. Has there been further
discussion that I might have missed? Is there any success to report? Any
words on the diagnosis made with the `serial portocol analyzer' of the
communication between the serial port and the 616x?

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A Meshar wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
>  > After an excursion into the not-so-wonderful world of the PalmPilot III,
>  > I've decided to go back to the trustworthiness and ease of use of the HP
>  > 200LX.
>
> Welcome back.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Hey Bill glad to have you back, Right On!!
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>Watch your right hinge, and if you're not sure where to look,
>http://www.hplx.net in the hardware hacking section has a picture of where

There is an EXCELLENT picture of a hinge crack on the SUPER
site; go to www.palmtop.net and look in the "More..." category.

Cheers... Russ

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Ed Keefe writes:
> I tried Freyja.exm again recently and rediscovered it's a pretty good Emacs
> style editor. The only problem is that it uses red letters in the menus.
> They don't show up on the LX.  I can run CGAHLP as a TSR to correct the
> problem but was wondering if anyone has figured out how to modify Freyja.ri
> to change the character attributes.

I've done that before (a year ago) - if no-one else provides a solutio
then I can try and recreate what I did back then.  I recompiled Freyja
once from source code, so anything is possible :-)


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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 02:58:26 GMT
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Dan,

I'm the other Huntsvillian palmtopper that Chris mentioned. I also use
Powertel as my digital cellular provider. I have a Sagem CS755 phone
with builtin fax/modem. It connects to the serial port of the palmtop
via cable. Dave Shier is the dealer in the US http://www.shier.com

GaryS

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Exactly. It is so deceptively simple that it is easy to overlook.

I have two laptops with PCMCIA slots and 2 flash cards. One card
worked in both machines `out of the box'. The other card requires
that a `hot insert' it into the Win95 machine, and then it works fine.
It works fine in the NT machine under all circumstances.

As far as both of these machines are concerned, the PCMCIA slot is just
another drive.

Jasper de Jong wrote:
>
> > An alternative, which I regularly use, is to back-up via a Flash
> > Card. This is (a) easy; (b) fast; and (c) has other advantages (i.e.
> > it expands your 200 effective memory).
>
> Thanks all for helping me on the connectivity subject!
> I'm not exactly well informed when it comes to flash cards, but i do
> know my dad has 2 laptops with pcmcia slots. Do those take the same
> cards? In that way i could also transfer files to and from a 'normal'
> pc, to add some software etc...
>
> --
> jsdejong@wxs.nl
> http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:03:19 -0800
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 > My Notes.NDB file suddenly went from more than 60 records to 0!!!
 >
 > It wasn't corrupt, that I could tell, just empty. Nothing else on the
 > palmtop seems to have been lost or damaged.   The only "bad" thing/trouble

I had "lost" 800 entries from my phonebook in early 1994. I had
only 25 or so left.  Previously, I had over 850 entries. In
panic I called HP. It took them two minutes to ask me if I
was using any subset of the phone book. I did. What a
relief!!! Is this your problem too? :) (Hope so...)

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Daniel,=20

 > I ask because it would be great if I could make such an
 > upgrade on my own, because I'm living in Germany and I
 > don't want to send my palmtop over the large, large sea...

Try Thomas Rundel, Rundel Datentechnik in G=F6ppingen.
100023.2477@compuserve.com, http://www.rundel-d.com. He
does these surgeries in Germany, gets his stuff from Mack.

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Tony,

 > The latest WWW.EXE has support for IR. I have it working on the Nokia
 > 8810. I heard reports of it working with the SH888. You just need
 > Port=-1 in WWW.CFG and also Baud of 38400 for double speed palmtop, 19200 for
 > single speed palmtop.

I think you use the beta version, which has not yet been
released.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

PS: Tony is one of D&A's Beta testers.

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WWW/LX Plus: SH888 works over IR in beta in some cases, and
not in others. It works fine for a Nokia. That version of
WWW/LX Plus is not released yet.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:41:52 -0800
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:45:24 -0600, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:
Chris,

rc> That's a *great* discovery, IMHO.  Let's see, can you send me privatel=
y
rc> the word processor file that you made for these function keys?  I see =
a
rc> whole new set of function key cheat sheets for my palmtop...

Sorry, there isn't a file. We have a Brother lable printer at work, you
type what you want on a computer and magically a scotch tape thick gets
spit out.

rc> Was there any problem with the thickness of the labels and closing =
the
rc> unit?  Can you tell me specifically what brand/type 3/8 labels you =
used?

No problem with thickness it's actually thinner than a sheet of paper.
The lable printer is a continious tape cartridge.

Sorry I couldn't help more

paul

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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:31:17 -0600, Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:


th> What!?  You haven't *memorized* the function keys!?

th> Ted

Oh mercy no. I'm a Silverback with an advanced case of ICFR :¬)

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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:38:34 -0500, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
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MC>      Occassionally(~0.1%?), Sh*t just happens ;-) Probably wouldn't
MC> have been so bad this time if I had caught it sooner, but my flight
MC> from New Orleans to Hartford took days rather than hours.

NEW ORLEANS!!! Is that how my subscription money is being spent??

;¬)

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On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:13:30 +1300, David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> =
wrote:
ka> AFAIK, the drop down menus are an option in setup. Shift F1,
ka> Display. Also, I think you can access them by pressing Alt + =3D

Well it seems Buddydos removes the Alt + =3D option and I also have the
Free keyboard selected which assigns macros to most of the Alt + letter
keys. I like to have both at my disposal so had to figure something
else out.

thanks for the input

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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:02:08 GMT, Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> =
wrote:

aj> For some reason, I can't get "Pick" (the file selector) to
aj> work with PalEdit.

Mike

Do you get a file listing? Are you running under Sys Manager?
I have a similar choose line so it should work if you have enough
memory left to run Pick. Try terminating everything and running in Dos
to verify memory is not a problem.

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Congratulations
Can you be a little bit more specific about the type of LED that can be
used. What should I ask for when I am at electronic repair shop?
Thank you...

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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:27:50 -0500, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
wrote:

> Hey Mike(& All):
>
> 02h24m17s ago ...
> On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:
>
> > For some reason, I can't get "Pick" (the file selector) to
> > work with PalEdit...
> >
> > The line I have in pe.cfg is:
> > Chooser=3Dc:\utils\editor\pick.exe
>
> How much memory are you allocating? I find PE+PICK needs 250K
>

Al, I think he's just forgetting to press ÝEnter¨ at PE's start screen. =
(:-)

I thought the same thing that onec Pick was installed that it would
replace the PE selection screen, but thats not the case. The PE's
screen still shows, but instead of using the ÝTab¨ just press ÝEnter¨
to bring up the Pick box and then select your files from it.

HTH


Regards,

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 23:55:30 +1100
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>> ie My network provider "locked" the speed at 9600 and I was having trouble
>> trying to connect at 2400 to reduce errors <grin>

I was in Taiwan at the time.. Their network was not supposed to work with
data.. I had a LOT of dropouts so wanted to try a slower/more stable
connection.. Alas..didnt make any difference.

>Under GSM I wouldn't have thought this would have mattered, you are
>making a digital connection so 9600 should be an error corrected link
>anyway.  (the whole standard is based on a multiplex ISDN standard IIRC

Stuart  I would like to know of your experiences in Asia...  I gave up and
found a local ISP for Asian connections

>travelling around Italy got a little high.
Mainland China ran up over US$5000 in 2 weeks..  BE CAREFUL with the roaming...

>It nice to see some other wireless HP users out there.

The convenience is great..The $$ are steep..

Cheers

Russell

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:39:58 -0600
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              19, 99 12:53:29 pm
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> 9-pin female plug front view
> ----------------------------
>
>     put LED long leg (+) into pin 5
>     |
>   --|----------
>   \ o o o o o /
>    \ o o o o /
>      --|----
>        |
>        put LED short leg (-) into pin 8
>
> You may plug the LED just into the wholes. Make sure, you
> issued SERCTL/W from the command line, to switch serial power
> on. If your LED legs are of equal length, just try it the other
> way round if it doesn't work.

Are you certain that these LEDs don't need a current limiting
resistor?  Perhaps this circuitry is self limiting, i.e., the
serial port cannot physically supply too much current to damage
the LED.  What current can the port supply?  What is the recommended
forward current for the LED you chose?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:42:34 +0000
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> Can you be a little bit more specific about the type of LED that can be
> used. What should I ask for when I am at electronic repair shop?

Ask for 'white light' LEDs with > 1000 mcd (millicandelum).
They may also be called GaN or AllnGaP LEDs. You could also
try other colors besides white, maybe it doesn't matter or is
even nicer? In fact, I think you can try any LED, but only
those with enough brightness will serve what we want.

Stefan

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I have seen in Stephan.geoldi site a very intresting screenshot  : a photo of  Microsoft Excel 2.1c german

http://www.goeldi.com/lx/

My configuration is a 200LX, 2Mb RAM With a HP 20MB Flashdisk

I want to run Microsof excel on my LX but I don't know how could I proceed. Thanks all for helping me.

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Francis Jung from la grande nation wrote:

>I want to run Microsof excel on my LX but
>I don't know how could I proceed.

The most important steps are:

1- install DOSVER (take it from www.palmtop.net)

2- install Excel on your desktop
   (with DOSVER running under plain DOS)

3- choose the option with runtime Windoze.

4- beam it to the LX

salut
-goe-

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I looked at the package of the Clik drive and tried to imagine the reason
for it (the drive).  Perhaps I'm not understanding this product.  I read it
as a more expensive Zip drive.  I recommend instead of using your flash card
as the "go between", you use a Zip drive and an "LPT1" card (parallel)
instead.  I see the advantages as follows...
1.) You have a Zip drive, which will attach directly to just about any
computing product manufactured in the last ten years. (please do not begin a
list of the machines that do not support Zip, this is not the List for that)
2.) You can now print directly to a parallel printer.

Perceived dis-advantages to using a Clik drive...
1.) You expose your flash card to another interface, decidedly not a DOS
interface.
2.) You are using a strange and equally expensive, smaller media.
3.) You get no additional connectivity from the Clik, unless you have other
devices, perhaps an older camera with smallish memory.
4.) You have now have another battery system to manage.

I'm not trying to "bunk" the Clik product, in fact I like the thing!  But I
went the Zip drive path and it's so useful I think the Clik will have a hard
time displacing the Zip Drive.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith ÝSMTP:rsmith@ENOL.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 5:58 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Iomega Clik!?
>
> Has anybody ever tried the new Iomega Clik! drive?  (How about a
> review?)
> I didn't see anything about DOS drivers for it on their web site, has
> anybody considered writing any?
>
> Richard Smith
>

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> Folks,
>
> Is there a list somewhere of which of the HP
> calculator printers will work with the HP200LX?
>
Using Tom Rundel's IR printer software (both dos and exm programs), I
know the hp82240B works.  I think the older model which does not power
off after a set time also works.

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> My Notes.NDB file suddenly went from more than 60 records to 0!!!
>

Any chance the notes.env (that is probably not its name) file is
pointing at the wrong drive or subdirectory.  Or that it got erased?  Do
you store your ndb in a place other than c:\_dat?  I have had this
happen with my phone/appt files which I store on the a: drive on
occasion.  the hp will then recreate a new and very empty file.  Just
use file open and point to the correct file and location.  I have
finally left the appt file hp creates in c:\_dat when it can't find mine
on a:.  IN that appt file, I have a todo which says "wrong appt file
loaded!"

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> IT WORKS!
>
> I got one of these new LEDs, connected + to pin 5 (=ground)
> of the 9-pin female end of the connectivity cable and - to
> pin 6 (=DTR). You may also use pin 2 or 8 for -. If it doesn't
> work for you, just change the polarity, it's a diode ;-)

I guess I should have mentioned something before.  Years ago, when I
thought that a program left the serial port open I mentioned something.
Jeff (Buddy) Mattox gave me instructions for making a little test light
that was _ON_ with the serial being on and OFF when the port was off.

But as I recall, I don't believe I have the instructions any longer,
there was some other little diode or other electronic thingie in the
mix.  Probably to reduce current draw or some such.  You may be able to
tell that my undergraduate degree was in biology.  Electronics is not
my field! (G)

I installed the led and other electronics in the end of a serial adapter
plug which plugged directly into the hp's 9-pin cable end.  The led
stuck out there the wire would normally exit.  Pretty neat overall look.

I think a lucite "stick" could be used to conduct light and possibly
diffuse it.  I know my old electric trains could conduct light thru
clear plastic (lucite??) to more remote points or light up a longer
"facade"

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> Are you certain that these LEDs don't need a current limiting
> resistor?  Perhaps this circuitry is self limiting, i.e., the
> serial port cannot physically supply too much current to damage

Aha, so I did remember Jeff Mattox had me put something else into the
gadget!!!!! (g)

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In-Reply-To:  <199903191506.JAA17006@sdds0.pagenet.com> from "Phil Drummond" at
              Mar 19, 99 09:06:32 am
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Phil:

Sounds like you've been happy with the Zip drive.  I'm about to buy one
for reasons unrelated to my palmtop, and I was planning on getting the
parallel port model you describe.  I hadn't thought of the advantages
of using my parallel port...

Can you educate me on the issues here?  (Off list if that would be more
appropriate).  I'm wondering the following:

(a) do you use a serial-to-parallel convertor, or a PCMCIA device that
give you a parallel port?  Can you give me a suggested source for whatever
device you use?

(b) what about DOS drivers to make the parallel port device look like a
disk drive?  Any problems locating/buying them?

(c) prior to reading your post, I was inclined to purchase their newer
250MB model zip drive.  Would all your experience apply equally to this
drive?  Or would I be better off sticking with the 100MB model?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott



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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:06:42 -0600
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Very nice!  The master shows us again!

        <bandwidth snip>

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:50:04 -0600
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Hi Phil,
    The merits of the Clik! drive are debated periodically on the digital photo
forums. The consensus seems to be that it is perfect for one situation; you are
going on a long trip, don't want to take a big laptop, will be taking a ton of
photos,  and don't have any other way to store them. Then you could get the
Clik! and the battery pack for it. Otherwise, for the price of the clik! and
battery pack you could buy two or maybe three 48MB CF flash cards which would be
smaller/lighter/faster/more secure/less trouble, or if you have your laptop with
you, why not use that?  Assuming that you already have a 32 or 40 MB flash card
that you want to unload to the zip,  you could have 40+48*3 or 184 MB of flash
storage for the same price, and it would weigh a lot less if that is a
consideration.. If that isn't enough and you have thousands of shots to store,
then the click! might be the way to go since you can store 40MB on it for only
$10.  I don't know about the battery pack on the Clik! though, if you are on a
trip to the wilds, how are you going to recharge THAT? I don't think that it
takes AAs.

    Another consideration is if your camera uses "smart" media instead. The SM
prices are generally higher, and the SM capacities smaller, making the Click!
more attractive. Also the Click! can read SM cards as I recall, so you might
save the expense of a reader for SM also.

    Anyway, the debate rages,  but the "multiple flash cards" solution just gets
cheaper every day.

-Bryan



Phil Drummond wrote:

> I looked at the package of the Clik drive and tried to imagine the reason
> for it (the drive).  Perhaps I'm not understanding this product.  I read it

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> I tried using multiple APNAME.LST and APPMGR.DAT files and it seems to
> work just fine (As Ed Keefe has already pointed out.)  I used 200 Menu
> and a few batch files to copy the files for the configuration I wanted.

I would like to write an LX-Batch application to do this, and map it to the
AppMgr's blue Ý&...¨ key.

Pressing the Ý&...¨ key would pop up a menu of my stored AppMgr configurations.
I pick the configuration I want off the menu, and the application copies the
corresponding APPMGR.DAT and APNAME.LST to C:\_DAT and then invokes AppMgr.

Since I haven't tried using LX-Batch yet, my question is: can I get LX-Batch to
invoke AppMgr directly? In fact, is there *any* way to invoke AppMgr other than
pressing Ý&...¨?

If not, can I get LX-Batch to press Ý&...¨, or run a macro to press Ý&...¨? Of
course, I would then have to assign this application to another key, perhaps
ÝAlt¨+Ý&...¨.

Comments?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:49:55 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HPLX and Micosoft Excel
Comments: To: Francis JUNG <Francis.Jung@EDF.FR>
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I have a copy of Excel 2.1 for sale - you can install it to run with or
without Windows 3.0 (has a run-time version of Windows.  Let me know if you
want it.

At 03:09 PM 3/19/99 +0100, you wrote:
>I have seen in Stephan.geoldi site a very intresting screenshot  : a photo
of  Microsoft Excel 2.1c german
>
>http://www.goeldi.com/lx/
>
>My configuration is a 200LX, 2Mb RAM With a HP 20MB Flashdisk
>
>I want to run Microsof excel on my LX but I don't know how could I
proceed. Thanks all for helping me.
>
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>
>

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Does anyone have Zip drive connectivity to their palmtop?  I've been
corresponding w/Phil, who uses the TransPC parallel PCMCIA card.  Does
anyone else on the list use a different arrangement?  I'd like to hear
from you.  Also, any comments/knowledge whether the new 250MB Zip
drive would be compatible with the existing DOS drivers dirvers used
on/with these cards?

-Chris Lott

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On Thursday, March 18, 1999 11:10 PM, Russel Brooks ÝSMTP:rlbrooks@IBM.NET¨
wrote:

> >Watch your right hinge, and if you're not sure where to look,
> >http://www.hplx.net in the hardware hacking section has a picture of
where
>
> There is an EXCELLENT picture of a hinge crack on the SUPER
> site; go to www.palmtop.net and look in the "More..." category.

Russ, I can't seem to find the picture.  I couldn't find a More... catagory
in the files, and searching for crack or hinge didn't turn up relating
material.

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Subject:      Manhattan Subway LXMAP

A while ago, I went to the trouble of making a NYC subway manhattan lxmap. I
decided to use the .bmp format because it saved a few kbytes. When I
submitted the map to Mitch he wasn't able to use it. he said that the
coordinates didn't fit the index file. I looked at it again and it works
fine on my LX. we went back and forth on it a few times. I made sure that I
had the most recent lxpic and lxmap versions. I kind of dropped it at the
point but I don't wan't my work to go to waste. I've posted the zip file for
the map here http://www.eclipse.net/~epadin/manh.zip. would some kind soul
look at it and see what I did wrong? If someone finds it useful, I may do
the entire NYC subway.


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I have a SanDisk which I've used to transport files from one machine to
another. I use a PCMCIA adapter in two desktop computers. This has
worked fine for me for the most part, however, I have some files that I
am not able to do anything with. In FILER the directory shows on the
screen, I can even remane it. When I try to delete the directory and all
its contents it reports that the 'Directory does not exist'

Does anyone know the solution to this problem? I think that I've seen it
before on this list but can't find it.

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All,

Well after 2 unsuccessful attempts to obtain an older omnibook (300,425,430)
with
the AA battery power option (im trying to setup a flash only Windows machine
for
outdoor use, on trips etc).  I thought id check the list to see if anyone
was looking to
sell an Omnibook or know where one may be found without costing a fortune.
<g>

Thanks,

Dan
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I've been to hplx.net/articles.accton.html
I created the netstart.bat.
Plugged in the ACCTON card and connected the cable.
From DOS, ran netstart.

I'm then told that a network server could not be found.

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I went through the same. I needed to make sure that the Netware server was
running 802.2 frame types. I also had to change the pd2212 entry to read
like this:

pd2212 0x62 5

I think the article had 61 instead of 62. I don't why but it made a
difference.





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>
> I've been to hplx.net/articles.accton.html
> I created the netstart.bat.
> Plugged in the ACCTON card and connected the cable.
> From DOS, ran netstart.
>
> I'm then told that a network server could not be found.
>
> Any suggestions?
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Get a copy of DELTREE from DOS (6.x has it...I'm not sure about 5.x). It usually
works for me on troublesome directories.

- Longden





James Gill <jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET> on 03/19/99 12:43:11 PM

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Subject:  Bad files




I have a SanDisk which I've used to transport files from one machine to
another. I use a PCMCIA adapter in two desktop computers. This has
worked fine for me for the most part, however, I have some files that I
am not able to do anything with. In FILER the directory shows on the
screen, I can even remane it. When I try to delete the directory and all
its contents it reports that the 'Directory does not exist'

Does anyone know the solution to this problem? I think that I've seen it
before on this list but can't find it.

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0x62 is related to the packet driver's software "interrupt".  The card
enabler provides an interrupt (not an IRQ) to the packet driver.  Unless you
specify, most times it's 0x62h (h=HEX).

I don't really understand how all that stuff works, but I too have found out
that specifying this value fixes some problems.

The "5" in the example is the hardware interrupt. (I think)

Phil

        <snip>

> pd2212 0x62 5
>
> I think the article had 61 instead of 62. I don't why but it made a
> difference.
>

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Folks,

Does anyone know how to assign the WP%1 menu
function to the HP200LX menu key?


--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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When I look at these files on a desktop computer (Win98) I see what appears to be an
endless list of directories. I created a directory 'DOWNLOAD' and a subdirectory
'BAD'. Now this shows as many DOWNLOAD and BAD subdirectories of the DOWNLOAD
directory. DELTREE was not able to remove these directories.

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If you had other utilities (like Norton, etc) there may be less drastic things
you can do to get rid of the bad files.

Otherwise, I'd copy all files/directories to the Win98 system (via XCOPY or
PKZIP), reformat the card and reload the good files back.

In fact, I'd copy the good files regardless....while they're still good.

- Longden





James Gill <jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET> on 03/19/99 01:39:14 PM

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When I look at these files on a desktop computer (Win98) I see what appears to
be an
endless list of directories. I created a directory 'DOWNLOAD' and a subdirectory
'BAD'. Now this shows as many DOWNLOAD and BAD subdirectories of the DOWNLOAD
directory. DELTREE was not able to remove these directories.

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Ed Padin wrote:
>I've posted the zip file for the map here >http://www.eclipse.net/~epadin/manh.zip. would some kind soul look at it
>and see what I did wrong? If someone finds it useful, I may do the entire NYC
>subway.

Thanks Ed, it's beautiful.

It ran smoothly after three minor fixes to the manh.idx found in your zip file.

1 & 2: delete both lines which contain GRID-W=25.  Lxmap will default to
          100x100 if no GRID value is stated.  This works perfectly for your map.
      3: change "viewer=c:\bin\lxpic.com" to "viewer=lxpic.com" to make it
          compatible for those of us who have lxpic somewhere in our
          path statement and not located in our c:\bin.

I noticed you took the liberty of bolding Yankee Stadium and adding some art to the Jersey shore... :-)

later
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Ed,

> I don't wan't my work to go to waste. I've posted the zip file for
> the map here http://www.eclipse.net/~epadin/manh.zip.

Great map Ed!

The indexing doesn't seem to work properly for me - if I press ENTER on
CENTRAL PARK the grid doesn't move there, for example.

I had a look at the IDX but can't see what's wrong. All I did was
change the viewer= to point to my local lxpic.com.

> If someone finds it useful, I may do
> the entire NYC subway.

I hope an expert finds out the problem and then you'll have the
encouragement to do the entire Subway.

I actually find your Manhattan map useful even as an image per se.
Brings back memories! I was only in NYC for 6 or 7 weeks - wish I nad
your BMP then.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM Ýmailto:edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 5:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Manhattan Subway LXMAP
>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
>
> Thanks Ed, it's beautiful.
>
> It ran smoothly after three minor fixes to the manh.idx found
> in your zip file.
>
> 1 & 2: delete both lines which contain GRID-W=25.  Lxmap will
> default to
>           100x100 if no GRID value is stated.  This works
> perfectly for your map.

Ah, I see. It's weird that it works for me with my grid settings.

>       3: change "viewer=c:\bin\lxpic.com" to

That's also weird because I have lxpic in my path but it won't pick it up.
hrmph!

> "viewer=lxpic.com" to make it
>           compatible for those of us who have lxpic somewhere in our
>           path statement and not located in our c:\bin.
>
> I noticed you took the liberty of bolding Yankee Stadium and
> adding some art to the Jersey shore... :-)
>

Oh, yeh... it was kinda late.<:-/ I didn't think I saved it like that.. I
changed yankee stadium because the original text was screwey but the face on
the jersey shore was me just havin' fun.

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Ed Padin wrote:
><snip>If someone finds it useful, I may do
>the entire NYC subway.

About how long do you figure it took to finish what you have so far?..
What programs did you wind up using?  I'd eventually love to see the
 _whole_ enchilada if it wouldn't be too overwhelming for you.

Thanks.
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Hi Al,,

I just joined the list a couple days ago, and I don't know what you
mean the February Logs are available?

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I got the gif file from a web page. I tried getting the guy's permission to
use use his map but he never answered so I used it anyway ;-> . (I know it's
not technically right but I'm not making money off of it. and people will
find it useful. Maybe I'll include the URL in the future.) It was a large
gif file that I converted to a .bmp  and chopped out manhattan. I then used
windows paint to clean it up. I'd say that it took about 9 hours to do the
whole thing. I'm pretty busy nowadays but next time I go on a long ride I'll
take the other maps with me and see what I can do. If anyone else wants to
tackle it they're welcome to.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 5:36 PM
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>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> ><snip>If someone finds it useful, I may do
> >the entire NYC subway.
>
> About how long do you figure it took to finish what you have so far?..
> What programs did you wind up using?  I'd eventually love to see the
>  _whole_ enchilada if it wouldn't be too overwhelming for you.
>

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Bruce_in_Toronto,

LXB has a stuffstring and stuffkey function which can feed keys to Sys Mg=
r
apps so it should be able to do what you want, but unless you really want=

to learn LXB, why not just create anonther App Mgr session that has icons=

representing the other App Mgr sessions. That would keep the GUI look and=

make it a lot simpler. It would be the LX equivalent of Win3.1's Program
Manager with the other app mgr sessions being the equivalent of "group
boxes."

.ed.

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> 1 & 2: delete both lines which contain GRID-W=25.  Lxmap will default to
> 100x100 if no GRID value is stated.  This works perfectly for your map.

Great solution. I agree, mine now works perfectly too. Thanks!

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Dan, What do you consider a fortune?  I've got a very nice OB 425 with 6 meg
ram and a 40 meg HD, RAM disk, manuals, power supply and battery.  I put
$300 into it a few months with the idea of using it for traveling with
Delrome software.  Later found only the 530 would run the software.

Since I have the 425, replacement 530 and a 600 (also for sale), I would
consider $275 plus shipping for the 425.  That's a little less than a used
LX200.

If interested, let me know.

Ron Beckley
Gloucester, MA

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Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 3:53 PM
Subject: OT: Omnibook 300,425,430 availability?


>All,
>
>Well after 2 unsuccessful attempts to obtain an older omnibook
(300,425,430)
>with
>the AA battery power option (im trying to setup a flash only Windows
machine
>for
>outdoor use, on trips etc).  I thought id check the list to see if anyone
>was looking to
>sell an Omnibook or know where one may be found without costing a fortune.
><g>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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here's a good one try for anyone that wants to take it to the next level:
http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/maps/submap.htm

I'm sure that it would require a lot of cleaning once converted. it would
probably be slow as hell too.

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Hey folks ... my Psion Series 5 recently crapped out  ... and have decided
to return to my roots.

Anyone interested in trading a 200 LX for an Omibook. The 600C weighs about
4 pounds, has a 486-50 DX chip, usual P/S/VGA ports, built in pop out mouse,
~200M HD, 12M RAM, 8.4 inch color screen, docking station, parallel ethernet
thingy, external floppy, and 14.4K PCMCIA modem. Has DOS 6.2, MS WFW 3.11
and MS Office installed, but doubt can find the original disks. Nicad used
to last two hours, now down to 1.5 hours, recharger built in.

Only laptop that I can actually use on the plane without worrying about the
person in front of me suddenly leaning back and ... squash.

If interested or would like more info email me at:
ron_tarrant@notbrainsurgery.com

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Contrary to what some of you have claimed I said - there is
NO IR SUPPORT in WWW/LX Plus at this time _in public_...

Let me make it clear: There are beta versions of WWW/LX
Plus which work with IR. This is NOT available publicly.

And yes, at some point in time we will release it, but I
have really not even a clue when, so save the electrons,
and don't ask. When I know, I'll announce it - guaranteed!
:)

Thanks...
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:46:28 -0000
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Well I'm not sure what I did it with but I 'burned up' an LX with one of my
PC cards.  I was trying a range of modems, but I could not promise that I
did not try an ethernet card or even a SCSI card.

Anyhow the effect I had was that batteries lasted a couple of days instead
of weeks.  I asked round the list, tried all the potions, but in the end I
sent it to HP to fix ($$$).  The swapped the board, now it's fine.

So I would say that you certainly can trash the LX by overloading it; I'd
urge that you stick to devices < 150mA when active.  Just now it sounds that
there are no 56k modems in that zone, but I'm sure there will be as the
integration improves.

Or buy up some spare LXs...

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:46:25 -0000
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I have to say that:

 - church/ethernet via modem-router gateway

is a concept so far from our church that it is just amazing.  We do have
electric light and heating, but we definitely don't have ethernet !

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:46:16 -0600
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brown, William <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Modem


>Well I'm not sure what I did it with but I 'burned up' an LX with one of my
>PC cards.  I was trying a range of modems, but I could not promise that I
>did not try an ethernet card or even a SCSI card.
>
>Anyhow the effect I had was that batteries lasted a couple of days instead
>of weeks.  I asked round the list, tried all the potions, but in the end I
>sent it to HP to fix ($$$).  The swapped the board, now it's fine.
>
>So I would say that you certainly can trash the LX by overloading it; I'd
>urge that you stick to devices < 150mA when active.  Just now it sounds
that
>there are no 56k modems in that zone, but I'm sure there will be as the
>integration improves.

Even if there was a 56k modem in that range, Your not going to be able to
push
the 200lx much over 28.8 from what I hear.  Its a limitation of the hardware
not
the modem.   So its best to find a nice lowpower modem and live with less
than
stellar speed.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Or buy up some spare LXs...
>
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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:04:16 -0800
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Ok, what's the deal with the HP700LX? The pros and cons? Looks pretty nice
to me, but I have a feeling there's something that doesn't bring it up to
200LX standards...

Give me the dirt!

Thanks! Much appreciated!

Philippe :)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:37:52 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I have a Hp 700 Lx with a lot of software installed. I have a Sandisk 24
mb Compact flash with adapter..

Well my problem is this: My hp chrashes after a few seconds entering the
sysmgr with the line "call d:\bin\smartchg.com in the Autoexec.bat. If I
rem this line everything works great. Why is this?

I would also like tips on the config.sys files how I can optimize it to
give me some more memory in sysmgr...in other words how to fine tune
it...I have had som chrashes in smmx too is this maybe related to the
config.sys file?

Thanks in advance..

(Ps! I would like a backup Hp 200 LX machine....anyone have a spare
which they can sell me cheap?)

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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-----------------below is the config.sys and the autoexec.bat
files-----------
CONFIG.SYS

buffers=30
files=50
Lastdrive=F
stacks=9,128
rem device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys /M=2
device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack
rem device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com c:\packc
rem device=a:\jam\jmount.com c:\test
REM duvice=C:\himem.sys


AUTOEXEC.BAT
@echo off
prompt $p$g
path
d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;C:\usr;a:\usr;f:\usr;a:\batfil;a:\usr\200mnu;a:\progs\jam;

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

rem subst e: a:\
rem call d:\bin\llras
Rem SmartCharge Optimizes Battery Charging in your Palmtop.

rem call d:\bin\smartchg.com   THIS IS THE LINE CAUSING TROUBLES

Rem Load IRDA Drivers
rem d:\bin\lamptsr.com /l /i
rem d:\bin\comtsr.com /L
rem c:\usr\click.com

a:\usr\moreexm.com
f:\usr\exkey\exkey.com -ff:\usr\exkey\exkey.ini
a:\usr\maxdos -l
a:\usr\buddy\buddy.com
a:\usr\200mnu\m.bat
700
rem maxdos -r
a:\usr\buddy\buddy.com -U


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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:44:15 +0100
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Subject:      How to get a Psion Dacom V34+Fax to work as a fax on hp700
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Many problems...

Have Hp 700 LX which I just got a modem to work on. The modem is a Psion
Gold Card Multi Function PC Card V34+Fax.

I have gotten it to work with Goin Postal and WWW/LX. But I have not
gotten the built in faxprogram to work. I have limited space on the c:
drive so I would not like to install any new faxsoftware when the built
in application should be sufficient.

Anyone have any experience on how the built in faxsoftware works with a
modem in the slot, or is it just for use with the piggybacked Nokia 2110
(which I have not tested)?

Thanks in advance

(Ps I would like a Hp 200lx as a backupmachine anyone has one for sale
please contact me...)
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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:55:03 +0100
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Subject:      Hp 200/700+ Nokia 8810/7110 Was Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
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Tony Hutchins wrote:

>
> The latest WWW.EXE has support for IR. I have it working on the Nokia
> 8810. I heard reports of it working with the SH888. You just need
> Port=-1 in WWW.CFG and also Baud of 38400 for double speed palmtop, 19200 for
> single speed palmtop.
>
> Regards, Tony
>
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I guess that there would be no problem getting a Hp 700 Lx to work with the new
Nokia 7110 (not yet released due july)? Is there any differnece between the Hp
700 and the Hp 200 regarding ir between Nokia and Hp?

If not this is wonderful news. I will be "upgrading" to a Nokia 7110 when it is
released and it would be nice to have my Hp 700 "talk" to the 7110 via the
infrared port.

(Ps I would like a Hp 200 Lx as a backup machine..anyone have a spare one for
sale cheap?)

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 02:05:50 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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A Meshar wrote:

> Contrary to what some of you have claimed I said - there is
> NO IR SUPPORT in WWW/LX Plus at this time _in public_...
>
> Let me make it clear: There are beta versions of WWW/LX
> Plus which work with IR. This is NOT available publicly.
>
> And yes, at some point in time we will release it, but I
> have really not even a clue when, so save the electrons,
> and don't ask. When I know, I'll announce it - guaranteed!
> :)
>
> Thanks...
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>
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I have just registered as you know. Will I be able to upgrade to a
version of WWW/LX which I can use with a Nokia 7110 (due july) which
work as the modem on the Nokia 8810?

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:24:20 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Subject:      Re: fluff FS:  200LX + Accessories
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Hope I didn't insult you with my offer...

Make me a counter offer if you'd like!

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 02:18:13 +0100
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Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Ok, what's the deal with the HP700LX? The pros and cons? Looks pretty nice
> to me, but I have a feeling there's something that doesn't bring it up to
> 200LX standards...
>
> Give me the dirt!
>
> Thanks! Much appreciated!
>
> Philippe :)
>
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It is a little big with the clamshell for the Nokia phone. Therefor I am
looking for backup Hp 200 which I can use when I do not need the sms/data via
the Nokia.

The biggest thing with the Hp 700 which I don't like is that it can not be
upgraded with more memory. This is a problem when you/I want too use a modem
and you have limited C: space for Goin/www/LX and all mails and stuff.

I will answer your mail better when I have thinked some more...my english is
going "bad" its 2 in the morning here in Norway...

(Anyone got a cheap hp 200 for me?)


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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:32:43 -0800
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Sorry guys. Wrong e-mail address...

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: fluff FS: 200LX + Accessories

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:38:29 -0800
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Does anyone know if it's possible to connect a Sprint PCS phone (I have the
CMZ-100) to the HP200LX and get an internet connection? I've yet to see a
cable to hook the two together...

Thanks,

Philippe :)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 02:00:26 +0000
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Whenever I've had funny dirs on my CF card, I've often suspected that
I'd written to it under battery power which may have been a little low.

Putting the card in my laptop and running Windows 95 scandisk has always
corrected the problems, and I've never lost any data. Famous last words,
eh?

In article <36F2B6DF.852CF86B@airmail.net>, James Gill
<jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET> writes
>I have a SanDisk which I've used to transport files from one machine to
>another. I use a PCMCIA adapter in two desktop computers. This has
>worked fine for me for the most part, however, I have some files that I
>am not able to do anything with. In FILER the directory shows on the
>screen, I can even remane it. When I try to delete the directory and all
>its contents it reports that the 'Directory does not exist'
>
>Does anyone know the solution to this problem? I think that I've seen it
>before on this list but can't find it.
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:47:05 +0100
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Here are my opinions on the Hp 700 Lx...Maybe a bit on the negative side...we
all love the hp 200/700 lx's and all its applications so therefor I have
concentrated on what I don't like with the Hp 700 Lx compared to a Hp 200...

The Hp 700 LX is a bit large for carring around. Because of the docking for the
Nokia cellular it is a bit too thick to put into your pocket of your jacket. But
it can be done, but I would have liked a way to snap of the docking for the
Nokia. For me it is a "handcarry" machine when I have the Nokia inserted anyway.
If you dock a 21XX in it is to heavy to put in your pocket.

There are _no_ way to upgrade the internal memory on the Hp 700 Lx. This is the
biggest problem for me. Because I have www/lx on the c drive and not anything
else. (Of course the c:\_dat is there too).

I now have approx 750 kb free. That can prove too be too little when I want to
use my pcard modem to dowload mail/newsgroups. Of course you don't have this
problem when you use the cellular to dowload because I then use a Sandisk 24 mb
compact flash w/adapter in the slot.

I have tested but not used the Hp 700 Lx for data transfer via the docked Nokia,
but when I tested it, it worked just great (max 9600 of course). I have not
tested the built in faxsoftware, but I think this would work great with a
cellular too.

I have tried to make the faxsoftware to work with my Psion Gold Card V34+ Fax
with no luck.

I have not seen a Hp 200 Lx up close, but I belive the hinge on the Hp 700 is
better and more solid...guess it has to be as to the piggybacked Nokia. There
are a little "stand" on the bottom of the Hp which you can flip out to stop the
Hp from flipping backwards when the Nokia is docked. This flipstand works great,
but is easy to break because it flips very easy out when you put the Hp 700 into
your pocket...

Well I can not think of anything else just now. Of course it would have been
nice with backlight. But since these things are "the same" for the Hp 200 and
the Hp 700 I will not disucss them here..

Because of the size/memory problem I am in the market for a Hp 200 Lx which I
can get upgraded with more ram. I do not think that I will sell the Hp 700 Lx
thoug, because I will in the future use it more for datatransfer via the Nokia.
The hp 700 LX also works great to send sms with...so if there are anyone out
there wich have a Hp 200 Lx for sale I am interested in a backup machine...

I get no messages from the hplxlist on the news.hplx.net at the time
being...something is wrong. I have posted alot of questions their lately, hope
that the replies show up soon on the news.hplx.net server too..

Bye...
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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:43:40 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Manhattan Subway LXMAP
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Ed,

I am about to load this on my LX. I looked at it on my desktop and it looks
great. This is useful!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:48:14 +0000
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I do not search the path for LxPic, you have to enter your
complete path into the IDX file where your LxPic resides.
Unfortunately there is no DOS function which could do the
search for me, and I was too lazy to program it.

I recommend to use smaller grids than the default 100x100,
but you have to decide *BEFORE* you start to link the index
with the map. Changing the grid dimensions always means to do
the complete link process again.

Picture file size of a PCX is usually smaller than the BMP
counterpart, if regions of the picture are painted in the same
color. However the Manhattan map uses an unregular pattern to
display the water which cannot be compressed efficiently by
PCX. Even worse, the runlength encoding of PCX has to add
special 'markers' to remember that no compression could be
done, resulting in a fileszie even bigger than the uncompressed
BMP image.

Hence try to paint patterns in B&W PCX with a single color.
For example, if you paint the Manhattan water black and save
the result as a PCX file, it will be smaller than the
corresponding BMP file.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 06:18:22 -0500
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I heard there is also a stand alone executable of a similar name that does
the same thing as deltree. Does anyone know what it is called or where I
can get it?

Mike...

At 01:13 PM 3/19/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Get a copy of DELTREE from DOS (6.x has it...I'm not sure about 5.x). It
usually
>works for me on troublesome directories.

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Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:17:12 +0000 (GMT)

04h31m29s ago ...
On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> It is trying to prevent you from getting mugged.  But Alice needs
> visitors once in a while so it is worth the risk.

It was! Will never forget that park in high summer. We even had a
gondola ride, and .. it rained!!! Touch od Seattle<G>

Didn't see your message on list.hplx at news.hplx.net.. so, this is a
test to see if I am still in Wonderland,.. or not!<G>

Now, where's my watch! I'm late! :)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:36:42 +1300
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I empathise with my fellow 200LXers who yearn to light up their screens.
Here are my thoughts on the LED lighting proposals.
I did try a high power red LED about 6 months ago. It was a real biggie.
I think it was about 4500 MCD. Result was a very unsatisfactory uneven
circular light distribution to only part of the screen.
Also the red colour was like being in a photographic darkroom where
images are less than distinct with poor contrast. I think human eyes
need other wavelengths for full definition.
Using the 4500MCD Red LED the contrast between screen and character was
poor. There were rings on the screen like from a cheap torchlight.
White LEDS include more daylight wavelengths. White is definitely best.
x3 "Hi efficiency" white LEDs spaced correctly would distribute light
far better than rather than a single "Hi brightness" LED.
There are 2 efficiency issues that need addressing.
The efficiency of conversion of electrical energy into light.
The efficiency of distribution of the produced light over the screen.
High brightness does not mean energy efficient.
A single High brightness LED focusses all the illumination in one spot
and does not spread it over the screen. It is effectively highly
focussed in a cone of concentric rings of varying brightness.
It is more than hard to make it fit a rectangular screen.
ÝCold war bomb analogy - It is a fact the 3 smaller hydrogen bombs
spaced out will cause far more damage than one with x3 times bigger
yield....  ÝThe Russians went for super bombs while the Americans
went for smaller well targeted jobbies - targetting has a lot to do with
battery life¨
ie three 333 MCD LEDs will help you see the screen better than one 1000
MCD¨. Hi efficiency LEDs vs Hi brightness LEDS

Hi efficiency LEDs are generally not high brightness.
But enough Hi efficiency LEDS will provide enough brightness.
The need for the 200LX screen is not to pack as much MCD as we can into
a single LED package - quite the reverse ie to distribute less MCD in
more LEDS. ÝI recall that someone said Hi brightness was good¨

Join three Hi efficiency Ýread mingy on batteries¨ of a lower power
rating better than using one LED at high power Ýread Hi brightness¨ of
indifferent effiency.
Hi efficiency gives the maximum visible light for the minimum electric
energy. ÝHi efficiency LEDs are designed to conserve electricity.¨

Hi brightness Ýpower¨ LED's give the maximum light ÝHigh MCD¨.
Hi brightness Ýpower¨ LEDs are designed to maximise light output from a
single package not to conserve electrical energy.
ÝBTW red gives maximum MCD - white is always lower MCD¨
ÝSome LEDs are specified as high efficiency meaning designed for highest
efficiency in converting electrical into visible light¨

I would suggest trying x3 Hi efficiency white LEDs spaced say 35mm apart
should leave about 15mm at the ends of the LX200.
This should provide optimal distribution of available light from 3 white
Hi efficiency LEDs certainly better than one superbright LED.

My thoughts on construction of a practical unit.
I will leave the wiring considerations Ýexperimentation¨ to others.
A couple of thoughts though. Join the LEDs parallel perhaps serial - No
use of current limiting resistors which convert precious battery energy
into heat rather than light. ÝTry use the LED's inherent resistance¨
Perhaps use four LEDs - two pairs in parallel coupled in series to get
the correct voltage.  ÝFour is better than 3 for lighting¨

Light from an LED radiates equally in all directions. Therefore half the
light will be going toward the screen Ýgood¨ and half the light will be
going away from the screen Ýbad¨. If the half that is going away from
the screen is not turned around and made to go back toward the screen
then effectively half of the light output is wasted and thus half the
battery energy. ÝSort of thing - I make a point¨
A mirror will return much of this light/ electricity/ battery life to
enhance the definition of the characters on the screen.

Suggestion for construction of a mirror.
Get a piece of thin mirrored lexan plastic Ýsay 6"x1.5"¨
ÝOr perhaps the polished aluminium of suitable silver drink can¨
ÝPolished silver outside or inside)¨ Roll it aound a wooden dowel to
obtain a suitable shape.

Drill 3 pairs of holes suitably spaced for the legs of the LEDS.
Poke the legs through and glue them Ýexpoxy or silicone¨ to the non
mirror side. Bend into a u shape ÝParabolic¨ and conform it somehow.
ÝSee above¨. My preference would be to bend the LEDs so that their
cylindrical profile would conform to the semi-cylindrical shape of the
reflector. LEDs may actually illuminate better the other way ie pointing
straight out.

Each LED should certainly stand off the reflector to be at the centre of
its radius to maximise MCD reflection and minimise shadow interference.
ÝObtain this positioning by extending the LED legs (if need be) by
soldering wires to them¨

A plastic diffuser in front would scatter the light Ýfrom the 3 LEDs¨
more evenly over the screen - but at the expense of battery life¨
A parabolic lense with suitable curvature could confine all light to the
screen and not fan it out over the edges thus wasting it.

ÝThe "inverse square law" works hugely against battery efficiency when
applied to uselessly lighting an area larger than the screen.
But a properly shaped relector can keep all illumination on the screen¨
It is hard to see what additional benefit could be obtained from a lens.
Any lens would be specific for one distance of the reflector/LED unit
from the screen.

The reflector LED /unit could be made to swivel between two plastic
legs attached to the sides of the lid ÝRubber band?¨
This would compensate for different lid opening angles and human viewer
preferences.

For purposes of fitting a big LED in a small space - I once filed a lot
of the plastic LED away ÝLEDS are dirt cheap to experiment on if you
make a mistake¨ - this may be a way of coaxing some more efficiency 20%
more light? out of the package...

Having said all that it still may not be feasible to run effective
lighting from just the main LX200 batteries.
My preference is for another power source eg another couple of AA or
even C batteries in an old torch case in my pocket and a couple of thin
wires supplying the above unit.

Additionally I will not be held responsible for any battery damage
incurred by overclocking cut-down LEDS. <G>
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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:13:11 -0700
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              Kent Luther <kluther@IBM.NET>
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We HP200 owners are probably the few remaining users of these slower speed
modems so I thought I would ask in this forum

I bought a US Robotics 14,400 baud external modem at a tag sale ($5). It
should be a nice upgrade to the 2400 baud battery powered one I use now with
my 1 meg HP200LX.

The only problem is that no power supply or manual came with the modem.

Anyone have or have access to a such a modem that can tell me what voltage
(value & type) and current is required? There is no marking of these values
on the modem's case.

Thanks,
K e n t

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:51:22 -0800
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              Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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Way too big!  I had one and got traded it for that reason alone.  Otherwise
it was great.

-Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 5:02 PM
Subject: Opinions on the HP700LX?


>Ok, what's the deal with the HP700LX? The pros and cons? Looks pretty nice
>to me, but I have a feeling there's something that doesn't bring it up to
>200LX standards...
>
>Give me the dirt!
>
>Thanks! Much appreciated!
>
>Philippe :)
>
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 03:45:59 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>

>It is a little big with the clamshell for the Nokia phone. Therefor I am
>looking for backup Hp 200 which I can use when I do not need the sms/data
via
>the Nokia.


Done that. The 700lx was like a novelty, the 200 is in use everyday, it is a
very usefull tool.

>The biggest thing with the Hp 700 which I don't like is that it can not be
>upgraded with more memory. This is a problem when you/I want too use a
modem
>and you have limited C: space for Goin/www/LX and all mails and stuff.

There is place next to the DTP-2 card, in the bottom clam shell... Requires
more hardware though, a memory bus going down.


>I will answer your mail better when I have thinked some more...my english
is
>going "bad" its 2 in the morning here in Norway...


Mmm, mine's ok here in Oslo. Ahh, but you live in North Norway, that
explains it! :-)

Have a nice day!

Franklin

Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:50:41 -0800
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Does anyone know if there's an updated PFA database lying somewhere around?
I just bought PFA from Thaddeus and it looks fantastic (even if made for the
95LX), and I was wondering if they ever sent database updates to their
users...

Thanks,

Philippe :)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 02:45:43 +0000
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> The indexing doesn't seem to work properly for me - if I press ENTER on
> CENTRAL PARK the grid doesn't move there, for example.


It is trying to prevent you from getting mugged.  But Alice needs
visitors once in a while so it is worth the risk.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:16:43 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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I've tried it with around 600K available - but still no luck.
I really am completely bewildered as to why it doesn't work!

 -Mike

> Hey Mike(& All):
>
> How much memory are you allocating? I find PE+PICK needs 250K
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:48:06 +0000
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              Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
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I am (was!) using a SanDisk 48MB compact flash card in my (bog standard)
HP200LX with PCMCIA adapter.

Yesterday I was looking through the HP's inbuilt diagnostics (hold down
ESC while switching on) and I noticed the "Plug-in RAM card" test. I'd
never tried this before, and duly did. It came back "card bad".

Now the card doesn't work. I get a "Drive not ready" from filer. My
laptop acknowledges the card on insert as a SanDisk card, but no drive
shows in Windows Explorer. The card had been working fine for about a
month in both machines. I had used it only an hour before running the
diagnostic.

Please don't go and try this, in case it is a problem! Does anybody know
for certain that it did or did not cause my card failure? Is the timing
of the failure just a coincidence?
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:43:06 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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It is quite likely that what you did caused the problem. The built-in
diagnostics are `well-known' (but, sadly in this case, not `well-known'
enough) to cause a problem for most compact flash cards. I did it to
one of mine several years ago, and have shied away from it carefully
ever since.

Someone who knows the process will come along here and tell you how to
recussitate your flash card. IIRC your data is now `toast' but in
general it is quite likely that your card will come back.

If no one else responds with help w/in a couple of days, I'll go see
if I have any ancient records of what I was told to do to get my
card reformatted.

I suppose it is too late for me to say that one ought to be particularly
careful of flash cards. They are sensitive little critters, and they
are different enough in structure, one from the other, that (a) nobody
(at least no one I know) understands all of them; and (b) what works
for one kind may well damage another.

Good Luck.

Chris Randle wrote:
>
> I am (was!) using a SanDisk 48MB compact flash card in my (bog standard)
> HP200LX with PCMCIA adapter.
>
> Yesterday I was looking through the HP's inbuilt diagnostics (hold down
> ESC while switching on) and I noticed the "Plug-in RAM card" test. I'd
> never tried this before, and duly did. It came back "card bad".
>
> Now the card doesn't work. I get a "Drive not ready" from filer. My
> laptop acknowledges the card on insert as a SanDisk card, but no drive
> shows in Windows Explorer. The card had been working fine for about a
> month in both machines. I had used it only an hour before running the
> diagnostic.
>
> Please don't go and try this, in case it is a problem! Does anybody know
> for certain that it did or did not cause my card failure? Is the timing
> of the failure just a coincidence?
> --
> Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)
>

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> > There is an EXCELLENT picture of a hinge crack on the SUPER
> > site; go to www.palmtop.net and look in the "More..." category.
> Russ, I can't seem to find the picture.  I couldn't find a More... catagory
> in the files, and searching for crack or hinge didn't turn up relating

Sorry, it's not in the SUPER 'files' area.  Go to www.palmtop.net
and look for "More &...".  The picture url is here...

  http://www.palmtop.net/img/hp_crack.jpg

cheers... Russ

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The built-in diagnostic option for a card test is only for an SRAM card.
Using it on a flash card will cause it to report "Card bad," and, thanks
to its vicious bungling, it will probably be correct.

The data is probably ruined, but if you put it in the 200LX, run FDISK100,
then FORMAT A: , your card should work again.

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You have probably lost all data but the card can be fixed!

First for you and everyone else - CAUTION:  The card test is ONLY FOR
SRAM cards.  It can (but not for all flash) mess up the card properties
for flash cards by wiping out either the master boot record or something
else.

You will need to use the 200's Fdisk utility found on the d: drive.
After you fdisk the card, then you will also need to run the format
utility.  That should put it all back.  You might be able to accomplish
the same thing on the laptop/desktop.

As I said you "probably" lost all data.  There are supposedly some tools
that could salvage it but Sandisk use to ask that the card be returned
to them for esoteric operations.  So just go for fdisk/etc.

good luck.

CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION: And, again, EVERYBODY, the Card test is ONLY
FOR SRAM CARDS. Supposedly, there are some flash that can survive the
test but most will be corrupted by the test.  It is too bad it cannot be
disabled but it is part of rom.

Oh, and I don't think for this purpose, there is any difference between
COMPACT and NORMAL Flash cards.  None should be subjected to this test.

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Thanks very much. Your comments and advice are spot on.
I was convinced the little bugger was dead & gone because it refused to
format, but FDISK100 worked a treat. It's now alive again, backup
restored and I'm very pleased. Thanks to you and David Ness for your
troubles.


In article <Pine.LNX.4.05.9903200844060.2823-100000@home.hplx.net>,
David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes
>The built-in diagnostic option for a card test is only for an SRAM card.
>Using it on a flash card will cause it to report "Card bad," and, thanks
>to its vicious bungling, it will probably be correct.
>
>The data is probably ruined, but if you put it in the 200LX, run FDISK100,
>then FORMAT A: , your card should work again.
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:36:36 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Manhattan Subway LXMAP
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Ed,

I did load it with the changes recommended on the list. It is great as
predicted!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ed Padin
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 6:03 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Manhattan Subway LXMAP
>
>
> here's a good one try for anyone that wants to take it to the next level:
> http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/maps/submap.htm
>
> I'm sure that it would require a lot of cleaning once converted. it would
> probably be slow as hell too.
>
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:49:43 +0100
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Resending this because I messed up the last time I sent it...(I sent it to
the "Group:Hplx"

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I have a Hp 700 Lx with a lot of software installed. I have a Sandisk 24
> mb Compact flash with adapter..
>
> Well my problem is this: My hp chrashes after a few seconds entering the
> sysmgr with the line "call d:\bin\smartchg.com in the Autoexec.bat. If I
> rem this line everything works great. Why is this?
>
> I would also like tips on the config.sys files how I can optimize it to
> give me some more memory in sysmgr...in other words how to fine tune
> it...I have had som chrashes in smmx too is this maybe related to the
> config.sys file?
>
> Thanks in advance..
>
> (Ps! I would like a backup Hp 200 LX machine....anyone have a spare
> which they can sell me cheap?)
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill
> Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
> mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
> Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
> --
> .."This --> {  } is probably the best button to press."
> (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)
>
> -----------------below is the config.sys and the autoexec.bat
> files-----------
> CONFIG.SYS
>
> buffers=30
> files=50
> Lastdrive=F
> stacks=9,128
> rem device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys /M=2
> device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys
> device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack
> rem device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com c:\packc
> rem device=a:\jam\jmount.com c:\test
> REM duvice=C:\himem.sys
>

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:50:56 +0100
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              SH888?¨
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Resending this because I screwed up the last time I sent it...

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Martin Bergvill

Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Tony Hutchins wrote:
>
> >
> > The latest WWW.EXE has support for IR. I have it working on the Nokia
> > 8810. I heard reports of it working with the SH888. You just need
> > Port=-1 in WWW.CFG and also Baud of 38400 for double speed palmtop, 19200 for
> > single speed palmtop.
> >
> > Regards, Tony
> >
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> I guess that there would be no problem getting a Hp 700 Lx to work with the new
> Nokia 7110 (not yet released due july)? Is there any differnece between the Hp
> 700 and the Hp 200 regarding ir between Nokia and Hp?
>
> If not this is wonderful news. I will be "upgrading" to a Nokia 7110 when it is
> released and it would be nice to have my Hp 700 "talk" to the 7110 via the
> infrared port.
>
> (Ps I would like a Hp 200 Lx as a backup machine..anyone have a spare one for
> sale cheap?)
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill
> Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
> mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
> Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
> --
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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:47:21 +0100
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Hi all, especially Ed and Owen,

please help me in getting up the Super App Mgr.
Something seems to be wrong (with me?).

I have 38 Icons in my App Mgr window; when I try to add another one
it beeps and does not show the add-screen.

I have removed 11 icons:
 the last icon (x-Finder) by using the usual App-Mgr delete (F4)
 8 of the blue keys-appl (Filer,..,App Mgr), Laplink Remote and
cc:Mail, using the discussed procedure (hex-edit,...).

After that I can add 3 (three) icons (I used DOS-batch files as
dummies) - thats all (total of 30).
When I try to add the next one, I get garbled text in the add screen
and the entered appl/icon is not added.

Why can't I add the additional 8 icons??

Is there a limit for DOS-Appl also? Do I have to start with built in
appl only?

I'm using MoreEXM.

Thanks for you help and patience.

 Hermann

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:21:17 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Stefan and list,

> IT WORKS!

GREAT!!!

With 20 mA? Was Mack wrong?

> I got one of these new LEDs, connected + to pin 5 (=ground)
> of the 9-pin female end of the connectivity cable and - to
> pin 6 (=DTR). You may also use pin 2 or 8 for -. If it doesn't
> work for you, just change the polarity, it's a diode ;-)

Did the palmtop produce some heat near the serial port while
powering the LED? If not, I don't know any problem...

> The LED is so bright, that it illuminates the palmtop in
> complete darkness!

MORE GREAT!!!

> You may use SERCTL or my LXPRO to switch the light on and off.

Did you think about a LED-TSR as I mentioned a few days before?

> There is only one problem: I have to keep the LED about 30 cm
> away from the palmtop to illuminate the whole screen. If I put
> it closer, the light is focused at that part of the screen
> where I put the LED.

A little lens could solve that problem.

> The LED I use is from Conrad Electronics (part # 15 37 45-60).
> It has a diameter of 5 mm, an angle of reflection of 20 degree
> and emits 3000 mcd. I guess the angle of reflection is too
> small. There is a 3 mm LED in the catalogue with an angle
> of 40 degree, but with only 900 mcd.

I'll buy the LED immediately!
Conrad Elektronik is only 13 U-Bahn-stations away from my home.
I'll drive there and ask about other LEDs with larger angles
and maybe more light power. How much mA does your LED draw?
Maybe we could go a little bit higher...

>
> I strongly encourage others to do similar tests with similar
> LEDs. Maybe an optical system has to be used to diffuse the
> light to the screen from a closer distance.
>
> Please note: Any tests are at your own risk. (But nothing would
> have been invented without taking some risk ;-)

Thanks a lot, Stefan, for testing and risk the life of your
Palmtop! ;-)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:24:21 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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I wrote a little TSR utlity called LIGHTON for those already
experimenting with a LED powered by the serial port.

LIGHTON assures, that the wired serial power is always on,
no matter what you do on the palmtop.

It also contains instructions on how to connect a LED to the
palmtops serial port.

Download it from

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lighton.zip

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:11:59 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I posted on this subject recently, and I haven't seen any replies or
comments.  Are we drawing too much current from the serial port, over-
driving the LED, or both?  I'm refering to the common practice of inserting
a series current limiting resistor when driving an LED.  The value is
typically chosen so that the specified I-fwd of the LED is obtained.
The diagrams I've seen being exchanged on the list show connecting the
LED directly across the serial port power pins...

-Chris "Overly Cautious" Lott

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:30:14 -0600
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              Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Systems Consulting <systemsconsulting@CSI.COM> wrote:

> A piezo "speaker" is not a speaker in the conventional sense. It is a =
"solid
> state" (remember the term?) element that vibrates when a voltage is =
applied.
> It uses a small amount of power, so it fits the 200LX well.

Well, a piezo speaker _is_ a speaker. It is not a moving coil
and magnet speaker, but it is a speaker. One reason the piezo
speaker is used in the LX is that it is very thin, so it fits
the LX form factor. The other reason is low power.

Vic Roberts

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:30:14 -0600
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              Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:

> More specifically, it's a quartz crystal mounted between two metal
> plates.  When a voltage is applied the quartz warps, or contorts.  When
> the voltage is released the quartz relaxes.  This is called the Piezo
> effect, and that's where the device gets it's name.

Most piezoelectric speakers made these days are ceramic, not
quartz crystal.

Vic Roberts

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Date:         Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:37:10 -0500
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Subject:      Homemade serial cable??
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Bryan,
        Would you tell me where I can obtain the necssary parts to make a serial
cable for the LX??

        Thanks,
        CAmeron

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> From: Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: DOS program to unload Fuji digital cameras.
> Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 9:51 AM
>
> Hi.
>    I've just written a small DOS program to unload Fiji and Toshiba
> digital cameras using the serial port. This should work on the HP200.
> Unfortunately, I can't find my home made serial cable at the moment, so
> I can't try it on the HP. If anyone would like to help me test this, let
> me know and I'll mail you a beta copy. This is going to be freeware.  It
> should work on the Fuji MX-500, 600 and 700, and the Toshiba PDR-1
> cameras. It may work on all of  the Fuji cameras and all of the Toshiba
> PDR series, I don't know.
>
> Where can I get a serial cable cheap, anyway?
>
> -Thanks, Bryan
>
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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 04:50:57 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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I'm starting to follow a newsgroup that is very active (rec.guns
@300 posts per day).  I'm downloading Headers and making my
selections but it is tedious to go thru 300-500 headers.  It
would be a bit easier if I could sort the headers by "Subject:"
first and I could more easily select the subject threads I'm
interested in for downloading.

So, is there a way to sort by Subject?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 05:15:14 +0000
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Press Ctrl-T and pick your sort choice

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 02:37:36 -0500
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Flyers <Flyers@XTRA.CO.NZ>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 11:28 AM
Subject: LED lighting for 200LX screen illumination


While I agree with Flyers premise,

>x3 "Hi efficiency" white LEDs spaced correctly would distribute light
>far better than rather than a single "Hi brightness" LED.


>ÝCold war bomb analogy - It is a fact the 3 smaller hydrogen bombs
>spaced out will cause far more damage than one with x3 times bigger
>yield....

>ie three 333 MCD LEDs will help you see the screen better than one 1000
>MCD¨. Hi efficiency LEDs vs Hi brightness LEDS


>Join three Hi efficiency Ýread mingy on batteries¨ of a lower power
>rating better than using one LED at high power Ýread Hi brightness¨ of
>indifferent effiency.


>I would suggest trying x3 Hi efficiency white LEDs spaced say 35mm apart


>This should provide optimal distribution of available light from 3 white
>Hi efficiency LEDs certainly better than one superbright LED.


>Perhaps use four LEDs - two pairs in parallel coupled in series to get
>the correct voltage.  ÝFour is better than 3 for lighting¨


I think repeating the same thing only 3 different times would have been
enough to make me understand. Actually once plus the H-bomb analogy
might have made me see the light (oops).

I really hope that one LED proves to be enough, as it would be a much
neater solution, just a dongle with a post and a LED on top.

>Light from an LED radiates equally in all directions. Therefore half the


I have seen LED's that shoot out in mostly one direction, so...

>Get a piece of thin mirrored lexan plastic Ýsay 6"x1.5"¨
>ÝOr perhaps the polished aluminium of suitable silver drink can¨
>ÝPolished silver outside or inside)¨ Roll it aound a wooden dowel to
>obtain a suitable shape...


(saw that in High Times it think...) none of this would be necassary. Put a
diffuser
right on the lense.


<snip>

The inverse square law: " "

Your ability to be regarded as "...not a nerd..." is proportional as the
inverse
square of the amount of dorky stuff you have hanging off your palmtop.

So far we'll have 3 or 4 LED's , packaging, wires, a parabolic reflector,
legs, rubber bands...
and an external power supply in an old flashlight case.

I'd rather have a palm pilot.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:45:19 +1200
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      World time & daylight saving...

If you open your Worldtime app on the day daylight saving changes
over, the little LX will ask if you want to update your system
clock to the new time, ie: fall back or spring forward one hour.

For those of you enjoying the HP200LX manual in HTML format, I
have recently aquired a manual for the HP95LX and as it has a
section on Reverse Polish Notation, I am slowly writing a chapter
for the HTML LX manual.

Please, to any angry young lawyers, this is a labour of love, for
personal use and to be strictly for the dissemination of useful
information that is now hard to come by and for no finacial
reward. (Just try finding a book on RPN!)


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 06:21:55 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Herman,

>>I have removed 11 icons...After that I can add 3 icons.. When I try to
add the next one, I get garbled text in the add screen and the entered
appl/icon is not added.<<

It sounds like the AppMgr.dat file is messed up. At which point it's
probably best to start over with a back up copy of the original or just
delete the file and generate the start-up Appmgr.dat file by closing and
opening App Mgr.  After using any hex editor make sure that the file size=

is 8774 bytes (for 100LX) 8374 (for 200LX). =


Owen found that you could replace some of the built in slots with other
apps but could only use the empty icon. There may be some additional code=

in the icon area of the Appmgr.dat file that says "don't overwrite me."

.ed.
   =

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:07:36 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> I posted on this subject recently, and I haven't seen any replies or
> comments.  Are we drawing too much current from the serial port, over-
> driving the LED, or both?

to be honest, I don't know. Concerning the palmtop I can say
nothing gets hot or even warm and I had the LED burning for
several hours. Seems to be save from this side. Concerning the
LED, I wouldn't mind if I kill it in let's say 1000 hours
instead of their listed lifetime of 100.000 hours. It's only
the price of a cup of coffee for a new one. And as someone else
stated, I'd prefer higher brightness for shorter lifetime than
slodering in an resitor which only changes power into heat.

In a previous message I recommended to connect the LED to pin 5
and 8 of the serial cable. After some tests I found out that
you should use pin 2 instead of pin 8 for the LEDs '-' leg.

Pin 8 doesn't work if you switch to filer, because filer pulls
down the RTS signal. But pin 2 always works.

I havn't seen the low power LEDs mentioned by Duncan listed in
my catalogue. They are all rated at 20mA, which isn't too bad.
However 2mA would be better. Does anybody know of a source for
low power (high efficent) white LEDs?

Stefan

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:43:51 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:36:43 -0500 (EST)

17h52m26s ago ...
On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Resending this because I messed up the last time I sent it...(I sent it =
to
> the "Group:Hplx"

Hmmm - the message came through fine both times...

> > Well my problem is this: My hp chrashes after a few seconds entering =
the
> > sysmgr with the line "call d:\bin\smartchg.com in the Autoexec.bat. =
If I
> > rem this line everything works great. Why is this?

Uhh - try getting rid of the "call" at the beginning of the line.
"Call" is for calling other .bat files, not .com or .exe executables.
BTW - what is "smartchg.com"?  I guess this is unique to the 700LX?
There is no such file on my 200LX...

HTH

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:04:12 +0700
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Hi,

It seems like there are a lot of people that just joined the list.
Well, I'm one of them.  I'm living in Indonesia right now, and have
been using my Palmtop since I first bought it in Singapore in '95.
I've found it indispensable, having used it in several different
countries.

I used to log onto HPHand quite a bit, but the surcharges were killing
me - on the order of $1,000/mo.  Mostly, with my job and personal
commitments, I'm just a lurker, but I will try to be more active on
this list.  (I spent the last nine months warming up by being active in
the Denver Broncos list).  I recognize several names from the HPHand
Forum on CompuServe.

Now that I've got the introduction out of the way, I've got several
questions that I need help with.  I will break them up into a question
per message so that the answers can make more sense to me - and,
hopefully, help other people.

First - THE LIST:  I've been reading things about browsing through
past messages, and an archive of messages.  How do I find these
things?  What else can I get out of the List?  Is there any protocol,
or customs that I should try to adhere to?  I've read a little bit
about another HP Palmtop List - where is it, and what are the
differences between the two?  Is SUPER the best place for getting
files/programs to use?  I hope that a Palmtop with WWW/LX (great
program) can access these things.

Thanks,
Steve Soper

PS:  I guess I did what JFK said not to do:  "Ask NOT what your List
can do for you, Ask what you can do for your List".

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:04:05 +0700
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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> Actually WP is just one example of many which EMS can make a big =
difference
> such as SC, XTREE, Stacker, etc.  I sure others can come up with more.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>

I guess I'm a little behind, but I'm unsure of how EMS works, and if it
speeds things up.  I guess that I always equated it with stacker - more
overhead - but in reality I guess it is what it says.  It is extended
or expanded memory.

So how do I get it to work, and what programs can I use it with?  How
about SSC - will it speed it up a lot?

Thanks,
Steve Soper

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:04:16 +0700
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I use Post/LX for most all of my e-mailing.  Many times I have to send
to the same people - is there an easy way to make a list of recipients?

I looked in the help file and it says to make a file with an address
on each separate line, and the put "File:" in to:.  It also says that
there is no checking of the addresses - so I have a question.  In the
file can I leave the peoples names and the addresses inside the <...>
signs?

Thanks,
Steve Soper

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:04:25 +0700
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Qman - thank you.  I just joined the list, and this was going to be one
of my questions.  Thanks for answering it for me.

Steve Soper - Palming in Paiton (Indonesia)


>
> Al, I think he's just forgetting to press ÝEnter¨ at PE's start screen.
> (:-)
>
> I thought the same thing that onec Pick was installed that it would
> replace the PE selection screen, but thats not the case. The PE's
> screen still shows, but instead of using the ÝTab¨ just press ÝEnter¨
> to bring up the Pick box and then select your files from it.
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:50:41 +0700
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I recently was given a Kodak DC-20 digital camera (Oh...that's why the
model number is "DC").  I looked on the 1998 CD Infobase, and I can't
find the file.  Does anybody know where I can find the software to
transfer the photos from the Kodak to the Palmtop?

Thanks again,
Steve Soper

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:50:59 +0700
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I have been looking, but I can't find anything about a new Newton
Keyboard Driver.  I could swear that I saw mention of a new driver
that corrected some of the bugs, and did a better job of handling the
menu key, than the previous version.

Does anybody know if there is a new driver, and where I could get it?

Thanks,
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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:10:47 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝFwd: Why dos my Hp 700 Lx chrash with this setup?¨
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:

>
> > Resending this because I messed up the last time I sent it...(I sent it to
> > the "Group:Hplx"
>
> Hmmm - the message came through fine both times...
>

Something is wrong with the feed from the list too the news.hplx.net..I get
maybe 1-2 messages from the list on the server and none of mine show up there. I
think that this is a problem that David has to fix. Nothing wrong with the list
it seems...


> Uhh - try getting rid of the "call" at the beginning of the line.
> "Call" is for calling other .bat files, not .com or .exe executables.
> BTW - what is "smartchg.com"?  I guess this is unique to the 700LX?
> There is no such file on my 200LX...
>

This is from the orginal autoexec.bat from the d: drive on the hp 700 . I do not
know what it does but it says that" it optimizes battary charging on your
palmtop". I have checked with my manual but can not find anything about the
smartcharcg program. It got the "call" infront...have tried to remove it but
with the same result..

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
--
.."This --> {  } is probably the best button to press."
(From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)

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Martin Bergvill writes:
> Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> >
> > > Resending this because I messed up the last time I sent it...(I sent it to
> > > the "Group:Hplx"
> >
> > Hmmm - the message came through fine both times...
> >
>
> Something is wrong with the feed from the list too the news.hplx.net..I get
> maybe 1-2 messages from the list on the server and none of mine show up there. I
> think that this is a problem that David has to fix. Nothing wrong with the list
> it seems...
>
>
> > Uhh - try getting rid of the "call" at the beginning of the line.
> > "Call" is for calling other .bat files, not .com or .exe executables.
> > BTW - what is "smartchg.com"?  I guess this is unique to the 700LX?
> > There is no such file on my 200LX...
> >
>
> This is from the orginal autoexec.bat from the d: drive on the hp 700 . I do not
> know what it does but it says that" it optimizes battary charging on your
> palmtop". I have checked with my manual but can not find anything about the
> smartcharcg program. It got the "call" infront...have tried to remove it but
> with the same result..
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill
> Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
> mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
> Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
> --
> ..."This --> {  } is probably the best button to press."
> (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)
>
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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:38:58 -0500
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Does anyone know if there is an old version of Visual Basic that would run on
the palmtop?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:54:36 -0500
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At 01:38 PM 03/21/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is an old version of Visual Basic that would run on
>the palmtop?
>TIA
>Tony Guzewicz

I wouldn't think so, as it was developed for windows.  I could be wrong.


R. James Scheffler
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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is an old version of Visual Basic that would
> run on the palmtop?

Yes, Visual Basic for DOS 1.0 works quite well on the palmtop, except for
the colors and lack of a mouse.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:14:45 -0600
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Subject:      how do I access news.hplx.net?

   I've gotten a userid and password and have set the address of the
news server for Netscape to news.hplx.net.  How do I access it?  I
can't figure out any way to have it ask me for my userid and password.
What port number should it be set to?  Is it a secure server?  Has
anyone else used this with Netscape?  Are there any more detailed
instructions on how to set this up anywhere?

Jonathan

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David
Any idea where I migyt be able to obtain a copy.
Thanks
Tony

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:41:33 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: Opinions on the HP700LX?
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>The Hp 700 LX is a bit large for carring around. Because of the docking for
the
>Nokia cellular it is a bit too thick to put into your pocket of your
jacket.

Wow! How big are your pockets? I never was able to put it into my pocket.

>I have not
>tested the built in faxsoftware

works great.

>I belive the hinge on the Hp 700 is
>better and more solid...guess it has to be as to the piggybacked Nokia.

True, but I killed the internal screen-cable by hardcore-using the docked
Nokia...
Have a look at http://www.goeldi.com/lx/ under the autopsy-part, you can see
the cable.
It was really the cable, not the contacts. I didn't find this cables to
replace. Nobody sales them alone.

I am looking for a 200LX too. Only because the 700LX is too big for a todays
palmtop.
All the PalmPilotGameBoy users think this is the usual bigness of the
LX-family.
Same problem with the WinCE and Psion people.

Not very good propaganda for HPLX, is it?

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:51:23 +0100
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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> Actually WP is just one example of many which EMS can make a big
difference


If there is the possibility of using unlimited swapfiles on a RAM-drive as
in the LX,
I think it doesn't matter if you use EMS or the swapfiles. I know that EMS
is slower
than XMS. But the Flashdisks and other PCMCIA-drives don't use XMS for their
RAM-drives. If you want to get EMS on the LX, you have to use the EMS200
tool from the supersite. Unfortunately I never got it to work on my 700LX.
Don't know why. But if that works, the best thing would be to run QRAM from
Quarterdeck. As I mentioned a lot before (it seems that the list isn't much
interested in this fact), you can use LoadHigh and DeviceHigh with QRAM even
on a 80186 or 8088. So this would be a good job for EMS in the LX.

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:50:39 -0800
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Subject:      Re: how do I access news.hplx.net?
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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, Jonathan Sivier wrote:

>    I've gotten a userid and password and have set the address of the
> news server for Netscape to news.hplx.net.  How do I access it?  I
> can't figure out any way to have it ask me for my userid and password.
> What port number should it be set to?  Is it a secure server?  Has
> anyone else used this with Netscape?  Are there any more detailed
> instructions on how to set this up anywhere?

I go to the Netscape Message Center window (the little green arrow bent
into a circle right under the Netcape icon in the Messenger window), click
on the news server "news.hplx.net", and click on "subscribe" up at the
top.  It will then ask for a username and password, and then show me the
available groups to subscribe to.

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: how do I access news.hplx.net?
Comments: To: Jonathan Sivier <j-sivier@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>

You should just need to enter the news server news.hplx.net in your
otions then start the news client. Double click on news.hplx.net when
when it connects it'll ask for the user and pass and log in.

>    I've gotten a userid and password and have set the address of the
> news server for Netscape to news.hplx.net.  How do I access it?  I
> can't figure out any way to have it ask me for my userid and password.
> What port number should it be set to?  Is it a secure server?  Has
> anyone else used this with Netscape?  Are there any more detailed
> instructions on how to set this up anywhere?
>
> Jonathan
>
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>
> John Musielewicz

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:53:33 -0800
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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> If there is the possibility of using unlimited swapfiles on a
> RAM-drive as in the LX, I think it doesn't matter if you use EMS or
> the swapfiles.

There's a slight speed difference because swap files have the added
overhead of the file accesses and going through the DOS BIOS routines,
IIRC.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:01:25 +0100
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>> If there is the possibility of using unlimited swapfiles on a
>> RAM-drive as in the LX, I think it doesn't matter if you use EMS or
>> the swapfiles.
>
>There's a slight speed difference because swap files have the added
>overhead of the file accesses and going through the DOS BIOS routines,
>IIRC.


But if you have to emulate the EMS via a swapfile (like the EMS200) it is a
file too.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:59:50 -0800
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Leading whitespace causes a problem...
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It seems that messages with a space or a tab as the first character in
them (for example, the recent message about accessing news.hplx.net from
Netscape, which had a tab as the first character) cause a big problem when
being forwarded from the list to the list.hplx newsgroup on my server.
If anybody knows a way of filtering out leading whitespaces, or knows of a
mail2news program that doesn't care about leading whitespace (and
duplicate headers, for that matter) please let me know.  Otherwise please
be aware that putting a tab or space in front of your message will cause
it to not be posted on the newsgroup...

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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> But if you have to emulate the EMS via a swapfile (like the EMS200) it
> is a file too.

Yes.  But the file is merely a placeholder, so regular programs don't try
to write to that space.  From what I recall, the EMS driver accesses the
ramdrive directly and does not use the actual file interrupts (or
something along those lines), thus resulting in a slight speed increase.
For example, swap times with Software Carousel are faster when using EMS
than when using a swap file.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:26:56 -0600
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> If anybody knows a way of filtering out leading whitespaces, or knows of a
> mail2news program that doesn't care about leading whitespace (and

You could sed them out with something like this:

1,$s/¬Ý \t¨Ý \t¨*//

but this would remove all leading spaces and tabs from every line.
If you just wanted the first line, you would need some way to key
it in the search pattern preceeding the substitute command...

(Note - I've used the C-like method of dnoting a TAB in the above
example, just so I could clearly represent it.  But it has been my
experience with sed and regex'es that I have to actually type the TAB
character - I have had bad luck getting my version of sed to recognize
\t as tab, and not just 't')

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:47:32 -0600
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              21, 99 03:07:36 pm
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> to be honest, I don't know. Concerning the palmtop I can say
> nothing gets hot or even warm and I had the LED burning for
> several hours. Seems to be save from this side. Concerning the
> LED, I wouldn't mind if I kill it in let's say 1000 hours
> instead of their listed lifetime of 100.000 hours. It's only
> the price of a cup of coffee for a new one. And as someone else
> stated, I'd prefer higher brightness for shorter lifetime than
> slodering in an resitor which only changes power into heat.

I certainly can agree with this.  I would still research this a
little further if I were to hook one to my palmtop, but maybe I'm
too cautious.  If you have access to the current versus lifetime
curves, it's certainly allowable to trade off brightness for
reduced lifetime, especially is it's as negligible as you indicate.

haven't worked extensively with LED's in a while, but I don't know
if the brightness versus curent curve is monotonic - i.e., above a
certain current, you may actually start to reduce the light output.
This is certainly true in the extreme right-edge of the curve.
There may also be a knee in the curve, beyone which there is no
appreciable brightness increase. In this case it would make more
sense to put in the resistor.

As for wasting power in a resistor, that's not entirely true.  By
putting an LED in the circuit as you are doing, you are basically
short circuiting the voltage source.  What's limiting the current
in your case is whatever internal resistance there is in the voltage
source.  I submit that you're probably wasting more power now than
you would with an external resistor.  I've done the math on a
simple example... consider an 8V source with a 40 ohm internal
resistance:

(a) Just put an LED on the output.  Total curent from the source
    is 185 mA  (7.4 / 40), making for about 1.48 W power drawn
    from the source.

(b) Now put in a 330 ohm series resistor.  Now the total current
    from the source is just 20 mA (7.4 / 370), making for about
    160mW drawn from the source.

(I've assume a real simple diode model here, but the same conclusions
would apply with a sophisticated diode model, I'm almost certain).

I also don't know much about the RS232 driver in the palmtop, nor
it's output capability.  It may be that the internal resistance is
so high that your circuit is fine without an external resistor.

To conclude, with the proper data available one could make the best
choice of current, brightness, lifetime, and palmtop safety.
It oughtn't be too hard to obtain, anyway.  If you have a mfr and
part number for either the LEDs you use or details of the palmtop's
serial output circuits I'll be happy to have a look.  I enjoy doing
this kind of stuff, so you wouldn't be imposing...

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:49:59 -0600
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              Lawrence" at Mar 21, 99 07:45:19 pm
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> For those of you enjoying the HP200LX manual in HTML format, I
> have recently aquired a manual for the HP95LX and as it has a
> section on Reverse Polish Notation, I am slowly writing a chapter
> for the HTML LX manual.
> (Just try finding a book on RPN!)

Some of the older HP calculators had excellent tutorials in them
on use of RPN.  You might want to obtain one.  My manuals I used
over the years are those for the HP-25 and the 34C.  Both had good
examples, well laid out, and some quite funny practice problems...

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:51:31 GMT
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Hi Avi,

> WWW/LX Plus: SH888 works over IR in beta in some cases, and
> not in others. It works fine for a Nokia. That version of
> WWW/LX Plus is not released yet.

Nokia???
Does it work with the IR port of the Nokia 6150?
That was great, because I think ybout buying this telephone.

What other new features will the next version of WWW/LX
have?

GTX
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> > (Just try finding a book on RPN!)
>
> Some of the older HP calculators had excellent tutorials in them
> on use of RPN.  You might want to obtain one.  My manuals I used

What are the advantages of RPN?

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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:50:41 +0700, Steve Soper wrote:

>I recently was given a Kodak DC-20 digital camera (Oh...that's why the
>model number is "DC").  I looked on the 1998 CD Infobase, and I can't
>find the file.  Does anybody know where I can find the software to
>transfer the photos from the Kodak to the Palmtop?

http://home.t-online.de/home/Oliver.Hartmann/dc20secr.htm

--=20
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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:39:27 -0600
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>But if you have to emulate the EMS via a swapfile (like the EMS200) it is a
>file too.

The file is a place holder only.  EMS on the palmtop directly accesses the
RAM chips via paging into the D000-DFFF area of memory.  It reduces the
overhead significantly as no DOS file routines, direct sector routines, and
then RAM drive driver is in the way.

Cheers,
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   >What are the advantages of RPN?

Probably the shortest description is "Parentheses-free"

You can do multiple, nested calculations by starting from the
deepest one and working outwards. You do not have to use the
brackets, and the results stay efficiently in the stack, reducing
keystrokes more and more as calculations grow in size.

HTH

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I certainly can agree with this.  I would still research this a
> little further if I were to hook one to my palmtop, but maybe I'm
> too cautious.  If you have access to the current versus lifetime
> curves, it's certainly allowable to trade off brightness for
> reduced lifetime, especially is it's as negligible as you indicate.
>
> haven't worked extensively with LED's in a while, but I don't know
> if the brightness versus curent curve is monotonic - i.e., above a
> certain current, you may actually start to reduce the light output.
> This is certainly true in the extreme right-edge of the curve.
> There may also be a knee in the curve, beyone which there is no
> appreciable brightness increase. In this case it would make more
> sense to put in the resistor.
>
> As for wasting power in a resistor, that's not entirely true.  By
> putting an LED in the circuit as you are doing, you are basically
> short circuiting the voltage source.  What's limiting the current
> in your case is whatever internal resistance there is in the voltage
> source.  I submit that you're probably wasting more power now than
> you would with an external resistor.  I've done the math on a
> simple example... consider an 8V source with a 40 ohm internal
> resistance:
>
> (a) Just put an LED on the output.  Total curent from the source
>     is 185 mA  (7.4 / 40), making for about 1.48 W power drawn
>     from the source.
>
> (b) Now put in a 330 ohm series resistor.  Now the total current
>     from the source is just 20 mA (7.4 / 370), making for about
>     160mW drawn from the source.
>
> (I've assume a real simple diode model here, but the same conclusions
> would apply with a sophisticated diode model, I'm almost certain).
>
> I also don't know much about the RS232 driver in the palmtop, nor
> it's output capability.  It may be that the internal resistance is
> so high that your circuit is fine without an external resistor.
>
> To conclude, with the proper data available one could make the best
> choice of current, brightness, lifetime, and palmtop safety.
> It oughtn't be too hard to obtain, anyway.  If you have a mfr and
> part number for either the LEDs you use or details of the palmtop's
> serial output circuits I'll be happy to have a look.  I enjoy doing
> this kind of stuff, so you wouldn't be imposing...


Good stuff. I am becoming hopeful.
My knowledge of LEDs is obviously well out of date.
20mA seems excellent.

In my past I seem to recall 40mA LEDs as being the norm and Hi
efficiency ones as being about 20mA. Possibly the technology has matured
a lot and Hi efficiency has now become very ordinary.

My assumption was that if "ordinary" LEDs were drawing say 40mA then a
super bright LED with x3 the mCD might draw 75- 80mA.

ÝBTW I suspect that super bright LEDs have evolved for daylight use - eg
the moving destination signs on the front of buses¨.

I recall in recent discussions about modems we lamented the rapid
depletion of battery life at 150mA - I imagined that an average user
might use a screen light much more than a modem timewise. ÝPossibly both
at the same time¨. So battery life seemed to be an area of continuing
concern.

The other major challenge is the even distribution of the light from a
single LED.
Has someone really found a commonly available lens to reshape a circular
LED light to the rectangular shape and size of the 200LX?
If so bravo!

Duncan

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   I am trying to create some custom top cards for my HP200LX.
The @#$%!! software for my scanner only saves things in TIF format. Can
someone point me at a simple, cheap, method of converting to at least GIF
so I can use Stefan Peichl"s excellent LXPIC?
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:05:52 +0800
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 8:47 AM
Subject: How to get a Psion Dacom V34+Fax to work as a fax on hp700


<snip>

>I have gotten it to work with Goin Postal and WWW/LX. But I have not
>gotten the built in faxprogram to work. I have limited space on the c:
>drive so I would not like to install any new faxsoftware when the built
>in application should be sufficient.
>

Did you try the command to redirect the com port 1 to com port 2, by using
"serctl.com /p" to direct it to the PC card slot, after use changed it back
with "serctl.com /o".

Cheers.
jhchin

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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> haven't worked extensively with LED's in a while, but I don't know
> if the brightness versus curent curve is monotonic - i.e., above a
> certain current, you may actually start to reduce the light output.
> This is certainly true in the extreme right-edge of the curve.

Ah, so that's why last night when I hooked up an LED to a 9 volt battery,
it got really bright, then faded rapidly, and then emitted some curious
wispy stuff.  <g>

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>What are the advantages of RPN?

Fewer keystrokes and the results of intermediate calculations
are available.  It requires you to solve the problem as if you
were doing it with pencil and paper, from the inside out.
It really is a better way run a calculator but you have unlearn
something as seemingly straight forward as "1 + 1 =" which
becomes "1 ENTER 1 +" in RPN to arrive at the same "2".

I still have a t-shirt from college days (that I haven't been
able to fit in for years) that has HP's logo and the slogan
"ENTER > =".  Enter is used in RPN calculators vs. the "=" key on
its competitors (at that time TI).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:12:57 -0500
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>>point me at a simple, cheap, method of converting to at least GIF

You should be able to find a copy of Graphics Workshop for DOS on the SUP=
ER
site.

.ed.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:53:55 -0800
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Philippe,

I'm getting reject notices for e-mails that I sent to you at this address:

"Philippe Lewis" <p.lewis@usa.net>

Don't you have another address?

Claud

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:13:43 +0800
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I have a spare  700lx and a Nokia 2110 with 1 brand new battery for sale.
Anyone interested please email me off the list.

I used 700lx quite a bit when I was in Indonesia before the crisis with GSM
Autoroam, able to send/recieve fax and email (Goin' Postal) on the road, now
I only use as a standby in case my 200lx is down. Probably someone can use
it more productive especially traveller rather than gathering dust in my
drawer.

Regards,

jhchin

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From: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 8:47 AM
Subject: Opinions on the HP700LX?


>Ok, what's the deal with the HP700LX? The pros and cons? Looks pretty nice
>to me, but I have a feeling there's something that doesn't bring it up to
>200LX standards...
>
>Give me the dirt!
>
>Thanks! Much appreciated!
>
>Philippe :)
>
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Open...

A wonderful program by Hiroyuki Sekiya, hiroyuki.sekiya@nifty.ne.jp

I have just installed a tiny file from the fab Super site called
"Open" and can highly recommend it! I have a dir full of ndb's
and gdb's and now I can simply use the filer app, highlight and
press enter, to have the correct program fire up with my file
loaded.

It works with NoteTaker, DataBase, PhoneBook, WorldTime, Memo,
& ApptBook.

One simply needs some lines in the filer.ini like:

gdb=C:\_dat\open.exe %
ndb=C:\_dat\open.exe %
doc=C:\_dat\open.exe %

and you are in business! I must dash off an email to the
(Japanese) author of this neat program.

David Lawrence
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> What do you mean by "burn up" (sorry i am german, so i am not
> sure about this expression in this context). Do you mean the
> Palmtop will suffer damage or just quickly decharge the batteries

The palmtop is designed to supply a maximum of 150 milliamps
of current to a card in the PCMCIA slot.  If you use a card
that uses more current than that, then you have a very good
chance of damaging some of the voltage converter circuits in
the palmtop.  This restriction applies when running with
batteries or with the external AC adapter.  This is because
the same voltage conversion circuits are used in both
situations.

It is best to find out from the manufacturer of a PCMCIA modem
whow much current it needs and if that is more than 150 ma, do
not use it in the palmtop.


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Ed Padin wrote:

> I just started using the newest version of Software Carousel. It seems that,
> when the palmtop is turned on or when I haven't task-switched in a while, it
> takes SC a while to "rev up". After the inital delay, it switches pretty
> quickly

I see the exact same thing also.  The first SC swap after a
power up takes longer than the subsequent swaps until the next
power up.

I don't have a clue what causes it.  I was on the beta test
team with the new version and I brought it up there, but
nothing came of it.


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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:19:33 GMT
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Hi list,

some time ago I posted a message to the list - but nobody answered.
So I'll try it once again.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:44:15 GMT
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      internal Stack overflow! ?
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

Hi list,

a few month ago I played a little bit around with
games on the 200LX. For example I tried "ATP", a
flight simulator, and it worked fine.
A game called "HL" = "Heart light" worked also.
(maybe some of you know these games?)
But now I've loaded them on my HP again after
months without them and wanted to start them...

Both started correctly, but before they are loaded
entirely in memory, a message appears
'internal stack overflow
 system halted'.

And sometimes it beeps after showing this message
until I do a hard reset (ctrl-shift-on).

What could be the reason?
Both of these games have sound output, and both
of the games crash a short time after sound begins
to play... maybe this is the reason?
At least one game (HL) has a sound output sounding
like a "WAVE"-file (I dont know - maybe ATP's sound
works similar).

Thanks for help,
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:41:02 +0800
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> Nokia???
> Does it work with the IR port of the Nokia 6150?
> That was great, because I think ybout buying this telephone.

No, it's only Nokia's 8 & 9 series that use standard AT commands and
IrDA.

Regards,


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Did you try adding a stacks=9,256 line to your config.sys file?

> Both started correctly, but before they are loaded
> entirely in memory, a message appears
> 'internal stack overflow
>  system halted'.

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Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> There were questions about where this modem was available - Mobile
> Planet has them. I ordered one, and it works fine

Do you know if that modem can work with cellular phones?  What
do the specs say is the current draw?  Is it <= 150 ma?


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Hi Perron,

>    I am trying to create some custom top cards for my HP200LX.
> The @#$%!! software for my scanner only saves things in TIF format. Can
> someone point me at a simple, cheap, method of converting to at least GIF
> so I can use Stefan Peichl"s excellent LXPIC?

I think there are much free-/shareware tools doing this.
Take a look at the simtel archive
www.simtel.net/simtel
was the URL I think.

GTX
daniel

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Hi list,

I just bought an orange LED (all white LEDs were sold out
at "Conrad Electronic") emitting 9500 (!) mcd and
needing a current of 20mA.
Conrad Electronic part# 186589-60.
Works, but it's a little bit too dark (maybe because
of the color?).
It has an emitting angle of only 6 degrees, so it's
necessary either to hold the LED abt. 20cm away from
the screen or to build an optical system diffusing the
light.

Once I've gotten a bright, white LED, such as this
one Stefan Peichl tried, I'll build a little device,
based on my home-made serial plug (I think you all
know it by now ;-) ).
If this works, I'll let you know, and I'll make the
description how I built it available for you.

One idea for saving energy while using the Frontlight:
I thought about what happened when pulsing the current
for the LED...
It must be pulsed with a high frequency (min. 50Hz),
so that it doesn't seem to flicker. There must either
be a TSR which switches the serial power on and off
with this frequency (I think this would reduce the
available ressources for other programs dramatically -
if it's possible to make that).
Or we connect the LED to ground and the TxD (transmit
Data) wire of the serial port and let the palmtop send
some data to the LED. This would also cause pulsing of the
current...
Only a few thoughts - any comments?

GTX
daniel

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Hi All,
>
>
> I posted on this subject recently, and I haven't seen any replies or
> comments.  Are we drawing too much current from the serial port, over-
> driving the LED, or both?

Without knowing the actual current, I would guess that both is likely.

I have heard ( from this group ) of figures like 20ma or such.  I
don't know what the maximum for the port pin is, but past experience
tells me that 20ma is way too much.

> I'm refering to the common practice of inserting a series current
> limiting resistor when driving an LED.

Yes... I was shocked that the LED's seemed to be connected directly to
the port, without a current limiting resistor.

> The value is typically chosen so that the specified I-fwd of the LED is
> obtained. The diagrams I've seen being exchanged on the list show
connecting
> the LED directly across the serial port power pins...
>
> -Chris "Overly Cautious" Lott
>

Mr. Chris "Overly Cautious" Lott, I believe that you are justified in being
"Overly Cautious".  I hope these people have sucess with their LED project,
but
I suspect that their HP200's will be in the hospital soon.

Jon "Overly Cautious and Paranoid" Carson

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> > haven't worked extensively with LED's in a while, but I don't know
> > if the brightness versus curent curve is monotonic - i.e., above a
> > certain current, you may actually start to reduce the light output.
> > This is certainly true in the extreme right-edge of the curve.
>
> Ah, so that's why last night when I hooked up an LED to a 9
> volt battery,
> it got really bright, then faded rapidly, and then emitted
> some curious
> wispy stuff.  <g>
>

Next time use 110v.  It will act like a strobe light, but only once  :)

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I'm having a minor problem with Buddy v3 and FILER.INI, and
I believe some of the Buddy betatesters are on this list.

Specifically, after reading the following paragraph from the Buddy
manual I believe that selecting a file in Filer, then hitting Enter,
should have Buddy execute the FILER.INI setting for that file.  Instead,
Buddy, opens the file in MEMO (as it would do without the FILER.INI
info).  Double-Enter will first (and quickly) open the file in MEMO,
shut that down and then execute the FILER.INI setting .... very annoying.
Ctrl-Enter goes directly to the FILER.INI program.  (I can unload
Buddy Ýwith Ctrl-Minus¨ and then Enter works as expected, so I am
sure that the problem is not with FILER.INI.)

I am trying to get the FILER.INI program to be executed by only hitting
ENTER, and only _once_ ..... any help appreciated.

============= From BUDDY.TXT ======================
ÝNew in version 3.¨  (200LX only) Buddy looks for the file
C:/_DAT/FILER.INI once at startup.  If it exists, the default action for
d-enter (used to view a file and then launch an application according to
the file's extension) is changed for the case when no extension match is
found.  Instead of loading the file into Memo, Buddy will pass an ENTER
key to Filer, thus invoking the action specified by FILER.INI, if any.
You can still cause Buddy to use Memo for one or more of the three user
extensions by entering "MEMO" (all capitals) for the "DOS program"
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Hi list

I found something interesting:
in my last mail to the list I told about the orange
LED I bought. It was a 20mA, 9500mcd.
Now I've measured the current: it's only 7mA!

Maybe this is the reason why it's so dark?!
Maybe it could be brighter with a higher current?!

Stefan: Was your white LED running with 20mA?

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

Thanks a lot - I tried it.
But without success.
It changed nothing.

GTX
daniel

> Did you try adding a stacks=9,256 line to your config.sys file?
>
> > Both started correctly, but before they are loaded
> > entirely in memory, a message appears
> > 'internal stack overflow
> >  system halted'.
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Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨
> Subject: LED Frontlight
>
>
> Hi list
>
> I found something interesting:
> in my last mail to the list I told about the orange
> LED I bought. It was a 20mA, 9500mcd.
> Now I've measured the current: it's only 7mA!

I suspect that the power output capabilities of the port are
limiting your output to 7ma.  You probably won't get more
current with this led.

When this type of thing happens, the output voltage of the port
will sag downward as the load increases.  If you can measure
voltage ( i.e. use a voltmeter ), then check the port before you
connect the led, and then after you connect the led.  Note the
difference in the readings.

These port pins were ** not ** designed to supply a lot of current.  They
were
designed to provide voltage levels.  Some of these ports have protection
built
in to them so that if something shorts them out ( like an LED ) it will
limit the damage as well as possible.

Good luck,
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On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Do you know if that modem can work with cellular phones?  What do the
> specs say is the current draw?  Is it <= 150 ma?

The regular version (not the Lite version) has a cellular jack on the
modem.  It uses about 124ma in my machine.

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I recently upgraded to Software Carousel 7 - actuallly to The Super
version.  With the older version I would change sessions and I would
see a message that said I was going to session 'x' and then would have
a 'loader bar' slide to show the progress of the load.  It was done
very quickly, and I could just barely see the number because I knew
where to look.  This new version doesn't do that - or I have something
set wrong.  Is there a setting I can change to get this back?

Also, before, when I would push a grey/green key, it would go directly
to that open application.  Now it first opens the Application Manager
in the session, then it opens the application.  This might have been
done to stop the 'garbled' fonts from before when we would change
sessions.  Is there a way to change this, and is it advisable?

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Many times I am given a URL in an e-mail message.  On my Laptop, that's
no problem - I just click on the link while I'm on line.  Is there an
easy way to do this between Post/LX, WWW/LX, and HV/LX?

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I got a delivery of high power colored LEDs today. One is in
yellow with 9300 mcd and the other is in orange with 9500 mcd.
Both cannot compete with my 3000 mcd white LED. So go for
white LEDs, even if their mcd value is not as high. There also
seems to be a difference in quality. The colored LEDs produce
rings on the screen like a torch, which my white one does not.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:50:46 -0700
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I have a 200LX that (I think) has problems with its power regulation.  It
does fine on batteries, but when I connect it to an AC adapter, the screen
flickers.  If I leave it connected more than a few seconds, the C: drive
usually gets trashed.  I've tried this with two different HP adapters, and
I've tried it both at home and at work, so it doesn't seem to be a power
quality issue.  Is there a separate regulator inside that would be easily
replaced?  Any ideas?

Dave

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:01:54 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:50:39 -0500 (EST)

27m34s ago ...
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Steve Soper wrote:

> Many times I am given a URL in an e-mail message.  On my Laptop, that's
> no problem - I just click on the link while I'm on line.  Is there an
> easy way to do this between Post/LX, WWW/LX, and HV/LX?

Hi Steve -

Not Avi, just another Post/LX user...  I have mine set up to do this.
You need to add the line:
        GrabLink =3D !hv.exe $g $d
to the ÝSystem¨ section of post.cfg

Then you can hit g when viewing the message, and move the highlight bar
to the URL line and hit ÝEnter¨.  You'll have to hit ÝOK¨ a couple of
times to respond to the questions, then you're on your way.  One
"gotcha" is that the URL, and nothing else must be on one line.  You
probably need to be running Post/LX in raw DOS or a MaxDOS session to
have enough memory for this.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:11:35 -0500
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> why not just create anonther App Mgr session that has icons representing
> the other App Mgr sessions. That would keep the GUI look and make it a lot
> simpler. It would be the LX equivalent of Win3.1's Program Manager
> with the other app mgr sessions being the equivalent of "group boxes.

Ed, sounds great, but what I'm not getting is *how*. How did you Add each custom
AppMgr session to your primary AppMgr menu? After pressing F2 (to Add an
application), what do you put for the Path?

My best guess is that your Path points to a DOS batch file that copies over the
requested APPMGR.DAT and APNAME.LST, then starts AppMgr (again). The only way I
can think of to start AppMgr from a batch file is to use one of those keypress
utilities to "press" the blue Ý&...¨ key.

Am I close?

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:05:04 -0600
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I thought the 700lx was similar to the 200lx, but for the cell phone and
internal PC modem.  The reason I'm replying is, could you further describe
your setup?  In particular I want to know how you have your drives arranged.
Mine for example (200lx) has drive D: as ROM and C: is RAM, with drives A:,
F: as removable (PC card) drives.  I'm wondering how, assuming similar drive
layout, how you are managing "user" programs from what I thought was a ROM
drive.

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:16:37 -0500
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Hi All:

     I have a 15MB FLASH card. It is an older "SUNDISK" card with an
IBM label.

$15 + ship

Cheers,

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*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:23:20 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: SSC: AppMgr & Loading Bar

Hate to say it, but... RTFM.;¬>

There are utilities, I think in the etc directory, that bring back the
dashes and prevent the appmgr thing. The dashes make SC switch slower and
the appmgr thing prevents the corrupt graphics screens you sometimes get
when going into the builtin apps.

I recently upgraded too and left the features as is. It does switch faster
without the dashes and I always had to go to appmgr to clear up the screen.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Soper Ýmailto:ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID¨
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 1:33 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ SSC: AppMgr & Loading Bar
>
>
> I recently upgraded to Software Carousel 7 - actuallly to The Super
> version.  With the older version I would change sessions and I would
> see a message that said I was going to session 'x' and then would have
> a 'loader bar' slide to show the progress of the load.  It was done
> very quickly, and I could just barely see the number because I knew
> where to look.  This new version doesn't do that - or I have something
> set wrong.  Is there a setting I can change to get this back?
>
> Also, before, when I would push a grey/green key, it would go directly
> to that open application.  Now it first opens the Application Manager
> in the session, then it opens the application.  This might have been
> done to stop the 'garbled' fonts from before when we would change
> sessions.  Is there a way to change this, and is it advisable?
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> Steve Soper
>
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:13:56 PST
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              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Hi guy;

One good reason to have at least three backups.
Grandfather concept to preclude copying garbage
to a good copy and losing all.  One backup is not
enough.

Yu could lose all records if yu inadvertanly do
what yu thought was ONE delete, when all the rest were
HIGHLIGHTED (space shift) and then save (the now
empty file.  If yu catch it at this point, yu
could undo.  At worse, you could copy from back up.

yor pal al.....................


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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:45:34 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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(This is a copy of my reply to Vic.)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Drummond
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 1999 10:44 PM
> To:   'Victor Roberts'
> Subject:      RE: speaker volume Ýtrivia¨
>
> Ok.  Was just providing base understanding.  The origin of the device name
> is still based on research done with Quartz.  I'm quite sure the exact
> composition of the particular device used in our palmtops is only of
> interest to a special few.  I myself, am one of those few.  :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Roberts ÝSMTP:robertsv@ix.netcom.com¨
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 1999 7:30 PM
> To:   HPLX Mailing List; Phil Drummond
> Subject:      Re: speaker volume Ýtrivia¨
>
> Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:
>
> > More specifically, it's a quartz crystal mounted between two
        > metal plates.  When a voltage is applied the quartz warps, or
        > contorts.  When the voltage is released the quartz relaxes.
        > This is called the Piezo effect, and that's where the device
        > gets it's name.

> Most piezoelectric speakers made these days are ceramic, not
> quartz crystal.
>
> Vic Roberts

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:44:03 -0600
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Thanks to all for the responses so far .... can't recreate the troubles by
looking at what I've gotten so far (but I really appreciate the thoughts
folks have put into this).

I hadn't tried to delete so much as one file, I tried opening both the
C:\_dat and the A:\_dat, back-up versions and then I poked at one of them w/
file/view in the filer Ýdidn't double-tap it to edit¨ and the file is
empty(!).... just empty; not corrupt.

I think I had a program hang in one session of (Super) Software Carousel,
which forced me to reboot, while the .NDB was open in another session (I
don't THINK it was open, for sure, but it could've been....).

Anyway...

As it's been said, thank Heaven's for back-ups (especially back-ups *OF*
backups)!!

--tim


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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:53:46 -0500
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SOLD! Thank You...AJKind

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:06:47 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Me Me Me !!!!!


I want it.

I am :
Jon Carson
3024 Cleveland St. N.E.
Minneappolis, Mn 55418

If you agree, I will send money order today !

TIA,
Jon


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 12:17 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: FS: 15MB PCMCIA FLASH
>
>
> Hi All:
>
>      I have a 15MB FLASH card. It is an older "SUNDISK" card with an
> IBM label.
>
> $15 + ship
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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> *3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:48:21 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Ah.. the HP-25!  A wonderful thing!  My HP-25C commands a "place of honor"
on my counter, right next to my father's slide rule and the place my palmtop
rests at night.

Phil

        <snip>
> My manuals I used over the years are those for the HP-25 and
> the 34C.  Both had good examples, well laid out, and some
> quite funny practice problems...
>
> -Chris
>

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:27:43 -0800
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I'm interested. Any special software to use it?

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 10:16 AM
Subject: FS: 15MB PCMCIA FLASH


Hi All:

     I have a 15MB FLASH card. It is an older "SUNDISK" card with an
IBM label.

$15 + ship

Cheers,

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*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:29:27 +0000
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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(Re - post) Anyone ever compare Info Select and Memory Mate PIM's for
DOS?

Thanks
Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:33:56 -0800
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Thinking about a little arm to hold the led away from the keyboard, it would
seem to me that the easiest would be to connect a small retractable antenna
(the kind that has an elbow) to the serial port connector and run the wire
up the antenna to the led. And bending the last section of the antenna
properly to point down should do the job.

Philippe :)

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:34:11 -0600
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Oops... HP-29C, sorry.   Still, those HP RPN calculators are the best.

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:51:45 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Talking of bright led, I found a little keyring-type of led-based flashlight
at REI (a camping store). I'll look up the name tonight, but it looks like
this: It's a roundish black piece of plastic with an orange led a one end
and a little metal ring at the other end. The led is ultrabright with no
apparent concentric rings and the angle is around 20 degrees. They claim its
light can be seen a mile way and that the battery will last 10 years. I'm
guessing they must've done some research on LED brightness, so it might be
possible to ask them questions about it. I'll let you know what I find.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:21:43 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: LED Experiments

> Yes... I was shocked that the LED's seemed to be connected directly to
> the port, without a current limiting resistor.
>
> > The value is typically chosen so that the specified I-fwd of the LED is
> > obtained. The diagrams I've seen being exchanged on the list show
> connecting
> > the LED directly across the serial port power pins...
> >
> > -Chris "Overly Cautious" Lott
> >
>
> Mr. Chris "Overly Cautious" Lott, I believe that you are justified in being
> "Overly Cautious".  I hope these people have sucess with their LED project,
> but
> I suspect that their HP200's will be in the hospital soon.
>
> Jon "Overly Cautious and Paranoid" Carson

The final output stage of most rs232 serial port is going to be a
voltage convertor to generate the +-12v needed for most serial
devices. The spec is something like +- 9-18v I think but most things
work at +-12v that is why there is a -12v source in all desktop power
supplies found in PC compatables, as well as MACs and virtually all
computers made. Given the compact nature of the HP they are probably
using a something similar max232 (I think that is the correct part
number) to generate the +- voltages and these parts have built in
current limiting, that is probably why there has not been any
problems with connecting the LED directly. Of course you may still be
drawing too much current which would overstress the part, the upper
limit may not me meant to be used for a long period.

Someone needs to measure the current and voltage involved and then a
suitable resistor could be calculated. Not only would the resistor
extend the life of the components involved, you might also find that
lower current still results in sufficient light and you would gain
longer battery life.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:22:39 EST
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: LED experiments

> Next time use 110v.  It will act like a strobe light, but only once  :)

Actually it would act more like a little explosive at 110v, blowing
the front off of the LED.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:39:03 -0600
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Done this.  It's loud, it hurts if you get in the way, and it creates a
unique stink.  Radio Shack once sold a "grab bag" of LEDs.  My brother
found that an LED, placed on the end of a "suicide cord" and under a
small tin can, would produce a "parent summoning" blast.  This
experiment went on to include most other semiconductors and several
types of battery.  The experiment concluded when we ran out of alligator
clips.  A short interruption in the course of the tests was also
observed when we had to reset a breaker in the garage.

Phil

>> Next time use 110v.  It will act like a strobe light, but only once  :)
>
>Actually it would act more like a little explosive at 110v, blowing
>the front off of the LED.
>

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:56:01 -0600
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Only kidding....please don't try this at home !!!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter W. Borders Ýmailto:TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US¨
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 3:23 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED experiments
>
>
> > Next time use 110v.  It will act like a strobe light, but
> only once  :)
>
> Actually it would act more like a little explosive at 110v, blowing
> the front off of the LED.
>
> Pete
>
> Peter W. Borders
>
> Network Support Technician
> Tidewater Community College
> tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:59:08 -0500
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"Peter W. Borders" wrote:

> Someone needs to measure the current and voltage involved and then a
> suitable resistor could be calculated. Not only would the resistor
> extend the life of the components involved, you might also find that
> lower current still results in sufficient light and you would gain
> longer battery life.

I've been researching controlling devices from the parallel port of my
desktop computer, and diagrams I've seen recommend a 470 ohm resister in
series with an LED for testing.  Do you think the port characteristics
would be similar?

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:00:22 -0600
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Hi,

> Done this.  It's loud, it hurts if you get in the way

Yes....quite ballistic

> and it creates a unique stink.

Yes...I call it "Essence of Allen Bradley" ( a resistor manufacturer ) or
better yet...... "Poof Soot".

> Radio Shack once sold a "grab bag" of LEDs.  My brother
> found that an LED, placed on the end of a "suicide cord" and under a
> small tin can, would produce a "parent summoning" blast.  This
> experiment went on to include most other semiconductors and several
> types of battery.  The experiment concluded when we ran out
> of alligator clips.  A short interruption in the course of the tests was
also
> observed when we had to reset a breaker in the garage.
>

I used to know someone that would take TO-3 transistors and plug them
directly into the wall socket ( albeit very quickly ).!!!!!!!

Everybody .......PLEASE.........do not do things like this....VERY
dangerous.

Jon

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:13:26 +1100
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At 01:54 PM 22/03/99 GMT, you wrote:
>Hi Perron,
>
>>    I am trying to create some custom top cards for my HP200LX.
>> The @#$%!! software for my scanner only saves things in TIF format. Can
>> someone point me at a simple, cheap, method of converting to at least GIF
>> so I can use Stefan Peichl"s excellent LXPIC?


Hi

If you open the file with your browser (Netscape etc) and then "Save as" it
gives a whole lot of options for format.

Hope this helps

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:14:41 -0600
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Kramer Ýmailto:david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 3:59 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED Experiments
>
>
> "Peter W. Borders" wrote:
>
> > Someone needs to measure the current and voltage involved and then a
> > suitable resistor could be calculated. Not only would the resistor
> > extend the life of the components involved, you might also find that
> > lower current still results in sufficient light and you would gain
> > longer battery life.
>
> I've been researching controlling devices from the parallel port of my
> desktop computer, and diagrams I've seen recommend a 470 ohm
> resister in
> series with an LED for testing.  Do you think the port characteristics
> would be similar?
>

You should probably design the circuit for the amount of current you want to
go through the LED.  I suggest a starting point of 10 ma.

You then need to apply Ohms Law which is E=I*R. "E" is voltage ( volts ),
I=current ( amps ) and R=resistance (ohms).   An LED also has a forward
voltage drop and for this discussion we will assume an approximate 1 volt
drop.

In order to design this, you will need to know the voltage.  For the
parallel port, assume around 5 volts.  For the serial port, anywhere from
+-12 volts down to +- 6 volts - measured without any load...;.you will need
to measure it.

Assuming we are designing for the paallel port:

        R = E/I

        E = 5 volts - (Forward diode drop )
        I = 10ma ( .010 amps )

        So....

        R = (5 - (Forward diode drop ))/ .01
        R = 4 / .01
        R = 400 ohms

As you can see, for this design the answer is 400 ohms, but a standard 470
ohm resistor is close enough.  This will drop the current slightly, but the
error is in the "SAFE-er" direction.

Of course you must be shure that the port you use is capable of supplying
that much current.  I doubt any port on the HP200LX could supply 10ma
safely.

I wish you guys luck, but you are scaring me !

Jon

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:56:15 -0500
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>>Am I close?

Very close indeed.

The path fields in MAIN would be something like =

  C:\_dat\appm.bat main games |64

and the corresponding path in the Games session would be
 C:\_dat\appm.bat games main |64

where appm.bat is
  @echo off
copy c:\_dat\apname.lst c:\_dat\%1 >nul
copy c:\_dat\appmgr.dat c:\_dat\%1 >nul
del    c:\_dat\apname.lst
del    c:\_dat\appmgr.dat
copy c:\_dat\%2 c:\_dat  >nul
c:\_dat\apm.com

To assemble apm.com, create the following file in a text editor

 N apm.COM =

 A 100
 MOV    AX,0500
 MOV    CX,1C0D
 INT    16     =

 MOV    AX,0500
 MOV    CX,011B
 INT    16     =

 MOV    AX,0500
 MOV    CX,A400
 INT    16     =

 MOV    AX,0500
 MOV    CX,3D00
 INT    16     =

 MOV    AX,0500
 MOV    CX,4400
 INT    16     =

 MOV    AH,4C  =

 INT    21     =


 RCX
 2C
 W
 q

 Be sure to leave a blank line before the RCX line and after the last lin=
e.

 Save the file as C:\_DAT\APM.SCR and quit the editor. Goto DOS with More=

ALT A T OK and change to the C:\_DAT directory andtype the command
 D:\DOS\DEBUG < APM.SCR  and press Enter.

.ed.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:30:28 +0100
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Phil Drummond wrote:

> I thought the 700lx was similar to the 200lx, but for the cell phone and
> internal PC modem.

Yes that is the true.


> The reason I'm replying is, could you further describe
> your setup?  In particular I want to know how you have your drives arranged.
> Mine for example (200lx) has drive D: as ROM and C: is RAM, with drives A:,
> F: as removable (PC card) drives.  I'm wondering how, assuming similar drive
> layout, how you are managing "user" programs from what I thought was a ROM
> drive.
>
> Phil
>
>         <see original post>
>
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Well maybe I was not "clear" in my first mail. I (the hp 700) has the same drive
layout as the Hp 200 lx. No different there..

What I did was modify the config.sys and the autoexec.bat file on the c: drive
and boot with these files. The autoexec.bat is the "orginal" one from the d:
(rom) drive that I have modified. There I have a line that says:
call d:\bin\smartchg.com
I then boot and choose to use the startupfiles on the C: drive..

If I run this line in addition to the other lines in the autoexec.bat and
config.sys files the Hp crashes after a few seconds in sysmgr.

I can not find anything in the manual about this smartcharge. It says, as
mention before that "to optimize charging fo batteries in your palmtop"..

Hope that this is understandable..

I have "rem'ed" this line now and have no problem with crashes. I  was hoping
somebody had had this exaxt problem, but there are limited Hp 700 Lx out there
on the list it seems..

Have a nice day..

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:37:52 -0800
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> call d:\bin\smartchg.com

I'm pretty sure I saw someone else answer this already.  The "call " on
the front of this line shouldn't be there.  It should only be used when
you want to execute a .BAT file inside another .BAT file.  It's not for
.COM nor .EXE files.  Remove everything before the D: and it should work.

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Steven Lawson wrote:

> > call d:\bin\smartchg.com
>
> I'm pretty sure I saw someone else answer this already.  The "call " on
> the front of this line shouldn't be there.  It should only be used when
> you want to execute a .BAT file inside another .BAT file.  It's not for
> .COM nor .EXE files.  Remove everything before the D: and it should work.

Then why is it "call" infront of the smartchg.com in the orginal autoexec.bat
in the rom d: drive then?

--
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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
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Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:02:20 -0800
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> Then why is it "call" infront of the smartchg.com in the orginal autoexec.bat
> in the rom d: drive then?

Hmm, maybe a bug in the rom?  I'm not so sure the 700lx was ever really
released (was it?).  My friend in England has one, it came with a few
preliminary manuals (unbound Xerox copies with "preliminary" on them).
He's already had it in for a hinge crack (HP can't seem to get it right!)
and it took them forever to get the parts to repair it.  It's a handy
setup, but certainly feels "prototype" compared to the 100/200 LX.

I looked at my "Using MS-DOS 6" book, no mention of calling anything
other than a BAT file with CALL.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 01:16:57 +0000
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One possible solution is to plug the LED+lampshade+mirror+
diffuser into the screen latch gap:


                    mirror + diffuser
                   /                 \
                  /                   \
                ___                   ___
               / o \ <---LED      ___|___|___
                  \/\            | __|___|__ |
                  / /            ||         ||
                 / /             ||         ||
                / /              ||_________||
        ________O/               |___________|
       (________)                (___________)

        side view                  front view

The LED should be directed towards your eyes. But the lampshade-
mirror-diffuser redirects the light to the screen.

I did some tests and it looks like one LED could be sufficient
if its angle of reflection is big enough.

If it turns out to be of sufficient brightness, a perfect
solution would be to drill two holes just below the latch gap
and contact these holes internally with the serial port. Then
you could just plug in the whole ensemble into the contacts,
press Fn+L and have a frontlight. No cables to the serial port
needed.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:26:36 -0800
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On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:
> Hmm, maybe a bug in the rom?  I'm not so sure the 700lx was ever really
> released (was it?).  My friend in England has one, it came with a few
> preliminary manuals (unbound Xerox copies with "preliminary" on them).
> He's already had it in for a hinge crack (HP can't seem to get it right!)
> and it took them forever to get the parts to repair it.  It's a handy
> setup, but certainly feels "prototype" compared to the 100/200 LX.

My 700LX I bought (a Swedish model) had printed manuals... but the covers
of the manuals were "cheesy", and the print didn't look like typical HP
quality.  (Yep, the manuals were in English... the 700LX is an
international English model).

I agree that it feels "prototypish" too.  My theory is that it's a product
based on a Corvallis design, but modified and completed in Singapore.  So
it "feels" different, especially to people used to the Corvallis
"feeling". (Like the 95, 100, and 200, as well as the other HP
calculators.)  Not knocking Singapore... just noting the different design
philosophies.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:31:58 -0700
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Has anyone considered that when it's dark enough that you need a light,
then it might be terribly difficult to see well enough to set up such
device, ie: plug it in, turn it on, etc.?  That's the beauty of a
simple, tiny flashlight.

Also, if you use Buddy, the serial port can be turned on and off with
the + and - keys on the lower right of the keyboard.  This may prove
easier than using SERCTRL or LXPro (Even though LXPro is a very nice
program!).

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Date:         Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:52:00 -0800
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Folks,

I saw this recently:

> The JetEye Wireless Data Transfer Infrared Printer Connection > (ESI-9580A) provides an infrared printer connection from your > infrared-equipped portable computer to a parallel printer.

Would this work with the HP200LX?


--
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
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PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:07:35 +0000
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After having red all the scared comments about my LED
experiments, I think I'd better stop it immediately. I didn't
want to scare any of you and indeed I didn't want to hurt my
palmtop. I'm going to return to my roots, which is assembler
programming and leave the hardware to you electronic specialists
of this list. I wish you would step into the LED light project
and come back with results. This would also be a nice 'return'
in exchange for all the freeware/shareware you get from the
programmers of this list.

Stefan

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Martin Bergvill wrote:

<snip>
>call d:\bin\smartchg.com
>I then boot and choose to use the startupfiles on the C: drive..
>
>If I run this line in addition to the other lines in the autoexec.bat and
>config.sys files the Hp crashes after a few seconds in sysmgr.

>
I have the same setup in my C: autoexec.bat and config.sys, no problem so
far.


>I can not find anything in the manual about this smartcharge. It says, as
>mention before that "to optimize charging fo batteries in your palmtop"..
>
>Hope that this is understandable..
>
>I have "rem'ed" this line now and have no problem with crashes. I  was
hoping
>somebody had had this exaxt problem, but there are limited Hp 700 Lx out
there
>on the list it seems..
>

I did not encounter any problem with Smartchg.com on my 700lx using both
Nimh or Alkaline cells for more than 2 years. I charges both my Nokia phone
and Nimh when I changed the battery type to rechargeable cells in Setup
menu.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> One possible solution is to plug the LED+lampshade+mirror+
> diffuser into the screen latch gap:
>
>                     mirror + diffuser
>                    /                 \
>                   /                   \
>                 ___                   ___
>                / o \ <---LED      ___|___|___
>                   \/\            | __|___|__ |
>                   / /            ||         ||
>                  / /             ||         ||
>                 / /              ||_________||
>         ________O/               |___________|
>        (________)                (___________)
>
>         side view                  front view
>
> The LED should be directed towards your eyes. But the lampshade-
> mirror-diffuser redirects the light to the screen.
>
> I did some tests and it looks like one LED could be sufficient
> if its angle of reflection is big enough.
>
> If it turns out to be of sufficient brightness, a perfect
> solution would be to drill two holes just below the latch gap
> and contact these holes internally with the serial port. Then
> you could just plug in the whole ensemble into the contacts,
> press Fn+L and have a frontlight. No cables to the serial port
> needed.
>
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If I had some time - regrettably I haven't...

I would experiment using some clear embedding resin to cast some
Ýrectangular¨ lens shapes into a smooth resin mould.

I would embed a white hi power LED directly into the top of the resin
lens before it hardens.

This resin is optically very clear - bubbles could be the only problem
but that can be overcome with technique.
I think any nuisance bubbles will float up Ýout of the way¨ if the cure
time is made long enough.

If the lens shape needed adjusting to alter the light pattern/focal area
I would use some course wet and dry abrasive paper to reshape it.
I would use finer and finer grades of wet and dry and finally polish the
shape somehow.

Once the lens shape worked well I would use it to form a final resin
mould in which to cast lots of resin lenses complete with embedded Hi
power LEDs.

A piece of thin mirror could be glued Ýembedded¨ on top to reflect any
wasted light back down through the lens.

The finished article may well suit Stephen's diagram above because the
len focus could be arranged to sit exactly where he has placed it.

By "focus" I don't mean a focal "point" rather a rectangular pattern of
light which exactly and with even intensity covers the screen.
ÝThe keyboard would get some reflected light Ýgood¨¨.

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On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Carson, Jon A. wrote:

> You should probably design the circuit for the amount of current you want to
> go through the LED.  I suggest a starting point of 10 ma.
<snip math stuff>
> Of course you must be shure that the port you use is capable of supplying
> that much current.  I doubt any port on the HP200LX could supply 10ma
> safely.
>
> I wish you guys luck, but you are scaring me !

I just don't know about you people.  I, for one, saw the original LED post
and dug up one of my HP serial cables and pulled the power light out of a
shredded computer case.  I popped that sucker in to the end of the DB9
connector and plugged it in and had no troubles.  Last night, I used the
palmtop in a completely dark room using just the LED .. it's pretty slow
going in 80x25, but everything else is pretty easy to read.  I used the
combination for about 45 minutes solid .. other than the dearth of cables
(one from the modem, one from the AC adapter, and one from the serial port)
it worked great.  The LED is a J. Random non-diffused green LED.
Nondiffused, for we (us?) non-EE people, means that the case of the LED is
clear, so light shines out of it like a flashlight.

The only real hassle was getting the LED in a position where I could use it.
My final solution, since I was in bed, involved putting the DB9 connector on
top of my head.  I'm sure if it hadn't been dark I would have looked
completely ridiculous, but at the time it worked pretty well.  The LED has
to be pointed directly at the screen, perpendicular to the screen's plane.
Otherwise, it's just too dim to be useful.  Putting the LED on my head
ensured that the light was pointed at the proper angle and distance to
illuminate the screen.  All in all.. I'd rather have a backlight.  But for
the time being, it's pretty cool.

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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Russel Brooks writes:
> >What are the advantages of RPN?
>
> Fewer keystrokes and the results of intermediate calculations
> are available.

It's also unnecessary to clear the calculator before beginning
calculations.  I always chuckle when people trying to use my RPN
calculator (HP11C) ask how to clear it.

Ted

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>After having red all the scared comments about my LED
>experiments, I think I'd better stop it immediately. I didn't
>want to scare any of you and indeed I didn't want to hurt my
>palmtop. I'm going to return to my roots, which is assembler
>programming and leave the hardware to you electronic specialists
>programmers of this list.>Stefan

Were you pouting when you wrote this <grin>.  Seriously though
it is often people "out of their field of expertise" that push the
boundaries on things.

Good on you for experimenting, electronics is not my field and
I agree it would be interesting to see a expert pick it up.  I
could help with the mechanical design of a flexilight / serial
port connection (amazing what you can do with an old serial
lead and sellotape <grin>)

Best regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Al Kind wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
>      I have a 15MB FLASH card. It is an older "SUNDISK" card with an
> IBM label.
>
> $15 + ship
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
> *Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
> *3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
> *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
> *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX
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Hi ! Al I will take it the pc card IBM ($15+SHIP)

 Bob Elliott Jr.
    I will call you tomrrow 23 march 99

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I have used and liked InfoSelect Dos for several years.  Just bought
an old copy of Memory Mate a couple of weeks ago.

Both products handle the same type of information - Here are a few
features compared.

Memory Mate:
1)  1 note fills entire screen (probably good for HP screen).
2) Using + and - keys you move up or down through the records.
3) FIND allows for boolean searches - more specific than the GET
function in InfoSelect.
4) Date can be set for reminder of a scheduled event when you save a
note - also the dates created and last modified are tracked all
outside of the note window.  Don't Know about Y2K effect on this.

InfoSelect:
1) As many notes as will fit onscreen are displayed at once  (you can
adjust to make one note per screen, but I prefer the dynamic "stack"
of notes I can flip through easily and see more than one at a time)
2 )Up and down arrows moves up and down in the "stack"
3) GET yields a subset of the notes you can browse and manupulate.
You can move back and forth between the full stack and the search
stack with the right and left arrows.
4) Date info is stored inside of the note. There is a "Tickler"
feature (Unfortunately not Y2K compliant)  If you want to be
reminded of a note you enter ** followed by the note at the beginning
of a line.  Invoking the feature gives a subset of notes with a date
prior to today.

> (Re - post) Anyone ever compare Info Select and Memory Mate PIM's for
> DOS?
>
> Thanks
> Dr Peter Maddern

Best Regards,
Mike Melancon

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Russell Hemery wrote:

>At 01:54 PM 22/03/99 GMT, you wrote:
>>>    I am trying to create some custom top cards for my HP200LX.
>>> The @#$%!! software for my scanner only saves things in TIF format. =
Can
>>> someone point me at a simple, cheap, method of converting to at least=
 GIF
>>> so I can use Stefan Peichl"s excellent LXPIC?
>
>If you open the file with your browser (Netscape etc) and then "Save as"=
 it
>gives a whole lot of options for format.

That sounds cool, but I just checked and Netscape 3 can't do that.

One other thing to do when converting images is to shrink the image
vertically by a 6:5 ratio, because the LX's display pixels are taller
(relatively) than on a PC.

In other words, get the image looking right on a PC in a 640x240
rectangle, then shrink it vertically to 640x200. It will look squashed
vertically on the PC, but will be right on the LX.

If someone wants to send me an image, I'd be happy to do the
conversion, because I have all the tools.

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All,

Well as I mentioned in a previous email I have been looking (still am) for
an
Omnibook 300/425/430 model.  Well I received one today (although Im still
looking for another) and while experimenting with it, and due to a lack of a
manual I hit FN+OFF which turns out to activiate some type of password.

Well I feel like an idiot but ive locked myself out of the unit!!! Ive
searched HP's
site but no luck.  Anyone know how to reset the password in one of these
things?

Ive removed the batteries but there must be an internal CMOS somewhere.

Anyone?

BTW: This one was actually for a relative, so Im still looking for another.

Thanks In Advance,

Dan Ridenhour
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>From: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM (Stanley Dobrowski)
>I see the exact same thing also.  The first SC swap after a
>power up takes longer than the subsequent swaps until the next
>power up.

The explanation I remember reading is that the interface to the
pcmcia card needs to be re-established after every power up.  Do
you have a flash card in your LX?

cheers... Russ

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On 3/22/99, at 6:21 PM, Ian Butler wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Carson, Jon A. wrote:
>
>> You should probably design the circuit for the amount of current you
want to
>> go through the LED.  I suggest a starting point of 10 ma.
><snip math stuff>
>> Of course you must be shure that the port you use is capable of
supplying
>> that much current.  I doubt any port on the HP200LX could supply 10ma
>> safely.
>>
>> I wish you guys luck, but you are scaring me !
>
>I just don't know about you people...

Uh huh.  And what would you have said had you curled up in bed with your
LED and found out the next moring you had fried your serial port?

Go look at some footage of the Tacoma Narrows bridge.  Or study up on an
infamous suspended hotel walkway that was built using three threaded rods
per suspension point when it was engineered to use one.  Or remember with
sorrow the Challenger shuttle disaster.

Extreme cases, certainly, but failure is one of the risks when one doesn't
do the homework.  Sometimes spectacular failure.  If you want a simpler,
closer-to-home example, look at HP themselves.  The infamous 200LX case
crack -- which is almost endemic -- apparently happened because somebody at
HP decided to tighten the hinge "just a little" without correctly analyzing
what would come of the resulting increased opening/closing forces.

There is a reason electronic components are spec'd with "guaranteed,"
"typical," and "absolute maximum" values.  MIL-HDBK-217 exists for that
same reason.  It's so engineers can design reliable products, or at least
know how closely they are treading to the edge and how likely a system is
to fail in any particular fashion.

Force a system to do something it was never designed to do, and there is no
way to reliably predict what could happen without researching things.  In
this case, the LED could have a very short life from being overdriven
(unlikely, given my doubts the serial port can provide enough current to
smoke the thing), the RS232 driver or charge pump could die (*probably*
not, given my faith in the HP quality standard and thus presuming they
would protect a user-accessible port), or it could go on working just fine
(we can all hope).  OR something totally surprising and unexpected could
happen six months down the road.

I agree with a sentiment that's already been expressed here: Bully to the
folks who are braving the frontier!  It's people with an open mind,
unfettered by "You can't do that" thoughts, who are responsible for most
innovation.  I'm glad this is being tried.  But I don't think it's
unreasonable to be concerned about both short- and long-term ramifications
of what we're doing.  And given that some simple data-book checking and/or
a two cent resistor (or using an LED with an integral current limiting
resistor) would eliminate those concerns, it would be silly not to look
into it.

In all sincerity, Ian, no sarcasm intended or implied:  I wish you all the
best with your palmtop.  I truly hope that this isn't overstressing
anything and it continues to work great.  I wouldn't wish a busted LX on
*anyone.*

But you'll excuse me if I side with the concerned folks on the list.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:58:56 +0000
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> I would embed a white hi power LED directly into the top of the resin
> lens before it hardens.
>
> If I had some time - regrettably I haven't...

I wish you had more time. Your suggestions point in the right direction.

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> >After having red all the scared comments about my LED
> >experiments, I think I'd better stop it immediately.
>
> Were you pouting when you wrote this <grin>.

Well, to be honest, I abused the scared comments as a pretext
to stop development. The truth is: I got a call from Microsoft.
They urged me not to violate a patent they are working on,
otherwise their lawyers will find a way to kick me out of
business. MS is working on a LED light connected to the USB bus.
I tried to be as friendly as possible at the phone so that the
guy at the other end relaxed and came out with some details:

The LED will house in a box similar to the new web cameras.
It will be powered by custom Lithium-Ion accus. You can buy
a charger separately. The power will last for about 2 hours,
which is more than sufficient taking into account that the main
accus to run the computer exhaust after 1 hour and you need no
light, if the computer isn't running any longer.

On the software side, MS already beta tests the 1.2MB LED.DLL
Everything works fine and they were able to cut down the needed
mouse clicks to activate the LED to 5, however switching it off
still needs 10 clicks, but could not be tested because the
computer often crashes before. At the moment, recovery from a
crash with LED light ON means a complete new installation of
Win98. But they will fix that until first release at Cebit 2000.

I asked him, if there will also be a palmtop solution of their
product. The answer was yes. They will come out with a PCMCIA
card (rated at 200mA), emulating the USB bus for WinCE.

Because USB has not yet been specified by the PCMCIA
association, MS will take the leadership and present the first
PC card specially designed for WinCE. That is, there will be
different cards for every of the used WinCE RISC processors,
allowing direct support of the RISC's instruction set.

Registered developpers can buy a visual c++ kit, allowing to
write the appropriate drivers for all brands of WinCE.

Well guys, if you want rock solid LED light, leave the 200LX
behind, save some money and go for this 'state of the art'
solution.

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After Mack's explanation about the difference between EMS and a
swap file I changed my setup and am now running SC completely
from EMS. Everything works fine. It is slightly faster than
a SC swap file on the same drive. And you gain about 10 KB main
memory, because part of SC seems to be running from EMS now.

Besides the mentioned software aware of EMS there are two other
famous programs using EMS:

PKZIP and PKUNZIP

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Hi stefan,

> If it turns out to be of sufficient brightness, a perfect
> solution would be to drill two holes just below the latch gap
> and contact these holes internally with the serial port. Then
> you could just plug in the whole ensemble into the contacts,
> press Fn+L and have a frontlight. No cables to the serial port
> needed.

Nice idea.
But it's nessecary to modify the palmtop therefor.
And then we could also use some internals for powering
the LED supporting SAFELY more current.
Maybe a direct connection to the batteries.
Then one can switch the light on and off only with
plugging/unplugging the LED.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:56:35 GMT
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Hi Richard,

> Has anyone considered that when it's dark enough that you need a light,
> then it might be terribly difficult to see well enough to set up such
> device, ie: plug it in, turn it on, etc.?  That's the beauty of a
> simple, tiny flashlight.

Maybe you know before that it'll be dark. Then you can plug in
the device when it's bright enough.


> Also, if you use Buddy, the serial port can be turned on and off with
> the + and - keys on the lower right of the keyboard.  This may prove
> easier than using SERCTRL or LXPro (Even though LXPro is a very nice
> program!).

By now, Stefan Peichl made a program for our light called 'lighton'.
You can switch the light on and off with Fn-L.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:56:43 GMT
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Hi Ian,

> I just don't know about you people.  I, for one, saw the original LED post
> and dug up one of my HP serial cables and pulled the power light out of a
> shredded computer case.  I popped that sucker in to the end of the DB9
> connector and plugged it in and had no troubles.  Last night, I used the
Ý...¨

I run the LED about 2 hours - and had no problems, too.

> The only real hassle was getting the LED in a position where I could use it.
> My final solution, since I was in bed, involved putting the DB9 connector on
> top of my head.  I'm sure if it hadn't been dark I would have looked
> completely ridiculous, but at the time it worked pretty well.  The LED has

:-D

My solution was to take the DB9 with the LED in my mouth between my
teeth...

> to be pointed directly at the screen, perpendicular to the screen's plane.
> Otherwise, it's just too dim to be useful.  Putting the LED on my head

Right. I've also noticed that.
Maybe it has something to do with the polarization filter in
the LCD.

> ensured that the light was pointed at the proper angle and distance to
> illuminate the screen.  All in all.. I'd rather have a backlight.

Who doesn't? But it's impossible...

I have the idea to build a thing like a bridge over the screen
holding one or two LEDs, and beeing plugged into the serial
port.
I can't illustrate it so nice like Stefan Peichl can, but I'll
try to describe:
A strong, but flexible (double-)wire, glued (and soldered) at the
plug for the serial port, about 20-30cm long (depending on how
much LEDs), holding either one LED at the and or two LEDs, one at
the end and the other abt. 7cm from the other away.
The wire, th plug and the LEDs are in a heat shrink tubing.
Here my attempt to illustrate (O=LED, S-plug):

1-LED-solution:                       2-LED-solution:


   O------------                    O------O-----------
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
                |                                      |
            S---                                   S---
GTX
daniel


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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:05:12 -0600
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> By now, Stefan Peichl made a program for our light called 'lighton'.
> You can switch the light on and off with Fn-L.

Seeing FN-L made me think about the old DOS key combination, CTRL-L (or
was it CTRL-P???)  This made all subsequent commands and console data also
get echoed to the printer.  Typing subsequent CTRL-L would toggle this
setting on and off.   It was a companion to the print-screen combination

Is this feature still in DOS 5.0?

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:42:39 +0000
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> > By now, Stefan Peichl made a program for our light called 'lighton'.
> > You can switch the light on and off with Fn-L.
>
> Seeing FN-L made me think about the old DOS key combination, CTRL-L (or


Fn-L, is a buddy command, too.  I believe it affects double/smart
clicking.

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I will try to sit in on these discussions.

I will help when I can.


Again Good Luck,
Jon


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Peichl Ýmailto:Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 7:59 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED frontlight, hopeful results
>
>
> > I would embed a white hi power LED directly into the top of
> the resin
> > lens before it hardens.
> >
> > If I had some time - regrettably I haven't...
>
> I wish you had more time. Your suggestions point in the right
> direction.
>
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Hi Gang,

> Well, to be honest, I abused the scared comments as a pretext
> to stop development. The truth is: I got a call from Microsoft.
> They urged me not to violate a patent they are working on,
> otherwise their lawyers will find a way to kick me out of
> business. MS is working on a LED light connected to the USB bus.
> I tried to be as friendly as possible at the phone so that the
> guy at the other end relaxed and came out with some details:
>

Iinteresting !!
>
> I asked him, if there will also be a palmtop solution of their
> product. The answer was yes. They will come out with a PCMCIA
> card (rated at 200mA), emulating the USB bus for WinCE.
>

This is already 50ma more than the maximum current drain ( which is 150ma )
for the HP200LX. I would guess that we probably could not be able to use
this.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:51:10 +0100
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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> > If anybody knows a way of filtering out leading whitespaces, or knows of a
> > mail2news program that doesn't care about leading whitespace (and
>
> You could sed them out with something like this:
>
> 1,$s/¬Ý \t¨Ý \t¨*//
>
> but this would remove all leading spaces and tabs from every line.
> If you just wanted the first line, you would need some way to key
> it in the search pattern preceeding the substitute command...

Using Perl, something like:

perl -0777 -pe 's/¬\s+//;'

might work.. It's cheating a bit, really. The -0777 option sets the
lineseperator to ASCII-777 (octal), which doesn't exist. Thusly, Perl
doesn't split the file into lines, but treats it all as one big line,
avoiding the problem Chris mentioned. That was the plan anyway. I didn't
test the above "script".

> (Note - I've used the C-like method of dnoting a TAB in the above
> example, just so I could clearly represent it.  But it has been my
> experience with sed and regex'es that I have to actually type the TAB
> character - I have had bad luck getting my version of sed to recognize
> \t as tab, and not just 't')

There are a few seds that support \t. The one I use on my LX has it. I
found it somewhere on the net (Simtel or Garbo possibly); if you want it
let me know.


Cheers,

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I sure hope you realize that this was intended as humor.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carson, Jon A. ÝSMTP:JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM¨
>
        <snip>

> > I asked him, if there will also be a palmtop solution of their
> > product. The answer was yes. They will come out with a PCMCIA
> > card (rated at 200mA), emulating the USB bus for WinCE.
> >
>
> This is already 50ma more than the maximum current drain ( which is 150ma
> )
> for the HP200LX. I would guess that we probably could not be able to use
> this.
>

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:31:48 +0100
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J H Chin wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >call d:\bin\smartchg.com
> >I then boot and choose to use the startupfiles on the C: drive..
> >
> >If I run this line in addition to the other lines in the autoexec.bat and
> >config.sys files the Hp crashes after a few seconds in sysmgr.
>
> >
> I have the same setup in my C: autoexec.bat and config.sys, no problem so
> far.
>

I will start to rem some other lines to see what exactly causes the problem.
Maybe my buffers/files or somthing in the config,sys is messing things up..do
you have exactly the same setup in the same order?


> I did not encounter any problem with Smartchg.com on my 700lx using both
> Nimh or Alkaline cells for more than 2 years. I charges both my Nokia phone
> and Nimh when I changed the battery type to rechargeable cells in Setup
> menu.
>
> Regards
> JHChin

When I run the smartcharge program and rem all the other I have no problems
with it. But then again I have not "access" to the other "goodies" I run from
my boot files..

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:44:19 +0100
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Steven Lawson wrote:

> Hmm, maybe a bug in the rom?  I'm not so sure the 700lx was ever really
> released (was it?).  My friend in England has one, it came with a few
> preliminary manuals (unbound Xerox copies with "preliminary" on them).
> He's already had it in for a hinge crack (HP can't seem to get it right!)
> and it took them forever to get the parts to repair it.  It's a handy
> setup, but certainly feels "prototype" compared to the 100/200 LX.
>
> I looked at my "Using MS-DOS 6" book, no mention of calling anything
> other than a BAT file with CALL.

Yes according to my Dos 5.0 book "Call" is only for calling bat files. I know
that..but maybe Hp did'nt know that. Get no error message if I use "call" or not.
The file is being run anyway..but aside from the chrashes it works fine even with
the "call" statement infront..

My Hp 700 lx came with a good manual, and "good" box and all. Everything is/feels
professional with it. Do not feel that it is a "prototype" or any "preliminary"
feeling with it at all. Bought mine new.

Can not understand that the hinge would crack on your friends hp 700. The hinge is
very more solid than the Hp 200 Lx (so I have heard)...will compare the Hp 200
Lx/Hp 700 Lx in a few days when I recevie my "new" used Hp 200 Lx.

Will compare the two and get back to the list with my thoughts if that would be
interesting for the list..

The only thing that is a bit "flimmsy" with the Hp700 Lx is the support stand on
the back for when the Nokia is docked. It can get "stuck" and break when you _try_
to put the the Hp 700 Lx in your inner pocket..

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Martin Bergvill
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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:30:52 +0700
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>
> The program you're looking for is LXDC - available from SUPER at
> http://www.palmtop.net/super.html.

Thank you very much for the information

 <Snip>
> The pictures were converted to .jpg on the palmtop, so the picture
 <Snip>

How did you convert from the native img format to jpg?

Thanks again,
Steve Soper

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> Can not understand that the hinge would crack on your friends hp 700.
> The hinge is very more solid than the Hp 200 Lx (so I have heard)...will
> compare the Hp 200 Lx/Hp 700 Lx in a few days when I recevie my "new"
> used Hp 200 Lx.

The problem with his 700LX was that the upper case half that the hinge
is part of (across the battery compartment, not the screen part) is very
thin. HP didn't provide a way for it to get support from the lower half
across the battery compartment.  You could actually see the battery
through the slit between case halves because it had slightly warped with
age.  Opening and closing it flexed this whole piece and it started to
crack at one end where the hinge ends.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Steve Soper wrote:
> > The pictures were converted to .jpg on the palmtop, so the picture
>  <Snip>
>
> How did you convert from the native img format to jpg?

Boy... I'd have to go searching through my old file archives to actually
find the files... but as I recall, I'd had a program called IMG2BMP that
converted the Kodak .img to a .bmp format, then I used CJPEG from simtel
to convert the .bmp to .jpg.  It was time consuming... but I'd written a
batch file that would convert the contents of the picture directory on the
palmtop every night, so it wasn't that big a deal.

IIRC, Longden Loo gave me IMG2BMP, (it's also available from a japanese
site, unfortunately, I don't have the URL handy), and CJPEG can be gotten
from various sites on the web, as it's part of the SimTel library.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Drummond Ýmailto:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:00 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED experiments
>
>
> I sure hope you realize that this was intended as humor.

Well.....I do now !  :) doh ! ( a la Homer Simpson )

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Hi !

I have probably asked about this before, but as long as we are on the
subject does anybody have a program for the LX that can download from a
Cannon Powershot 350 ?

I was thinking that the communications protocol was similar to some other
cameras.

TIA,
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Your memory serves you well Bill.

I did some research into this about a year ago when I got a DC-20 myself. If
anyone's interested, they can search the list archives from a year ago (see the
website on the tag line) ...I've since changed jobs and my personal email
archives are so much digital smoke.

I did discuss the process and the URLs on where to get the IMG2BMP program on
the list at the time.

However, since then I've switched to a different camera and don't use the DC-20
much anymore. The process is much easier now by just swapping PC cards with a
camera that stores in .jpg format as its native mode.

- Longden





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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Steve Soper wrote:
> > The pictures were converted to .jpg on the palmtop, so the picture
>  <Snip>
>
> How did you convert from the native img format to jpg?

Boy... I'd have to go searching through my old file archives to actually
find the files... but as I recall, I'd had a program called IMG2BMP that
converted the Kodak .img to a .bmp format, then I used CJPEG from simtel
to convert the .bmp to .jpg.  It was time consuming... but I'd written a
batch file that would convert the contents of the picture directory on the
palmtop every night, so it wasn't that big a deal.

IIRC, Longden Loo gave me IMG2BMP, (it's also available from a japanese
site, unfortunately, I don't have the URL handy), and CJPEG can be gotten
from various sites on the web, as it's part of the SimTel library.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Your memory serves you well Bill.

Thanks, Longden!!

> However, since then I've switched to a different camera and don't use the DC-20
> much anymore. The process is much easier now by just swapping PC cards with a
> camera that stores in .jpg format as its native mode.

I've switched cameras too.  I moved to the Toshiba PDR-2... it's got a PC
Card interface built into the back of the camera.  Slick lil' unit.  See
my review on hplx.net.  <g>

Bill Childers
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> I sure hope you realize that this was intended as humor.

I've learned over the years that people (even otherwise intelligent,
rational, skeptical people) will believe any evil plot or bizarre scheme as
long as it is attributed to Microsoft.

There are cases where you have to use emoticons if you want to be
understood... no matter how distasteful or redundant you may believe them to
be.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:

> I've learned over the years that people (even otherwise intelligent,
> rational, skeptical people) will believe any evil plot or bizarre
> scheme as long as it is attributed to Microsoft.

Oh, sure, just what we'd expect from a Microsoft double-agent!  <g>

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I have the functionally equivalent Konica Q-Mini camera, but have never looked
into a download program.

I suppose there are special cases where a cabled download would be preferred,
but I have an LX with a 48mb CF card and adapter already, so swapping the CF
card from the camera to the LX is more convenient (and a heck of a lot faster to
move the data).

- Longden





"Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM> on 03/23/99 08:59:04 AM

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Hi !

I have probably asked about this before, but as long as we are on the
subject does anybody have a program for the LX that can download from a
Cannon Powershot 350 ?

I was thinking that the communications protocol was similar to some other
cameras.

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------------------------------

>>Am I close?

>Very close indeed.

---(Ed Keefe's brilliant and detailed solution snipped)---

Ed, you've done it again!

I'll probably tinker with your batch file a bit to suit my peculiar tastes, but
your APM.COM is just what I was missing.

I look forward to you publishing your solution in The Palmtop Paper or sending
it to SUPER and getting the recognition you deserve.

Bruce in Toronto

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All the dialogue about fussing with backlight add-ons reminds me of the thread
on comp.sys.palmtops (yeah, remember them?) a couple of years ago when some hack
in Alabama was giving everyone a blow-by-blow account of his discoveries on
swapping the memory board to get past the 2mb limit.

Then he started getting "me-too's!" from the audience and was gracious enough to
provide detailed instructions and how to get the parts, and eventually offered
to do it as a service to the "solder-challenged" majority of us...for a
reasonable fee.

For sure, you hacks take your life (or your LX's life) in your hands, but don't
ever think there are those don't appreciate your efforts, however much we may
cringe at the possibilities.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:28:31 -0600
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              99 10:01:47 am
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I am trying to track down some detailed information on the Conrad
Electronics high-efficiency white LED that was referenced on the
list a few days back.  I visited their website, and couldn't find
any reference to this part - I then wrote them, and haven't heard
anything back.  Can someone who actually has one of these provide
the manufacturer and manufacturer's part number?  Apparently, Conrad
Electronics is just a distributor...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:32:53 -0600
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Lest I blow up something... is there any known issues when using the
TransPD parallel port PCMCIA card in the Accurite Double Slot adaptor?

-Chris

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>From: theise@netins.net (Theodore Heise)
>>>What are the advantages of RPN?
>>Fewer keystrokes and the results of intermediate calculations
>>are available.

>It's also unnecessary to clear the calculator before beginning
>calculations.  I always chuckle when people trying to use my RPN
>calculator (HP11C) ask how to clear it.

True but I often hit 0 then press ENTER several times to clear
the stack just so I know what state it is in.

cheers... Russ       HP-16C (and I wish I still had my old HP-25)

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Hi

does SC work with his swap files on flash card?
what happens if I try to access a session saved on the flash
card when I've the modem inserted instead? or no card?

is the EMS driver able to use flash card for EMS?

TNX
daniel

> After Mack's explanation about the difference between EMS and a
> swap file I changed my setup and am now running SC completely
> from EMS. Everything works fine. It is slightly faster than
> a SC swap file on the same drive. And you gain about 10 KB main
> memory, because part of SC seems to be running from EMS now.
>
> Besides the mentioned software aware of EMS there are two other
> famous programs using EMS:
>
> PKZIP and PKUNZIP
>
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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> does SC work with his swap files on flash card? what happens if I try
> to access a session saved on the flash card when I've the modem
> inserted instead? or no card?

It will work with a swap file on the flash card, but much more slowly than
with a swap file on the RAM drive.  If you set it up that way, and then
try to switch sessions with the flash card out, you'll basically crash
harder than an F-16 plowing into the side of Mount Everest.

> is the EMS driver able to use flash card for EMS?

No, only the built-in RAM drive.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi stefan,
>
> > If it turns out to be of sufficient brightness, a perfect
> > solution would be to drill two holes just below the latch gap
> > and contact these holes internally with the serial port. Then
> > you could just plug in the whole ensemble into the contacts,
> > press Fn+L and have a frontlight. No cables to the serial port
> > needed.
>
> Nice idea.
> But it's nessecary to modify the palmtop therefor.
> And then we could also use some internals for powering
> the LED supporting SAFELY more current.
> Maybe a direct connection to the batteries.
> Then one can switch the light on and off only with
> plugging/unplugging the LED.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Daniel Hertrich
> Germany
> email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Direct connection is definitely my choice.
Cut or melt a slot or hole in the battery cover to bring twin wires out
to the LED.
I understand spare battery covers are available for those of us who
don't want to alter the original condition of their 95LX 100LX 200LX¨

Metal pads with soldered wire at each end - no danger to the 200LX.

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Ed,

thanks for posting the solution. I was waiting for it and I think I
know what it means to you.

Result: I will order the Palmtop paper (again).

Hermann

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:46:24 -0600
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David Kramer <david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:
> I've been researching controlling devices from the parallel port of my
> desktop computer, and diagrams I've seen recommend a 470 ohm resister =
in
> series with an LED for testing.  Do you think the port characteristics
> would be similar?

I don't have any data books where I am now, but I don't think
you should assume that the serial port of any computer, and
especially the 100/200LX, will have the same voltage and
current capability of a desktop parallel port. (I'm pretty
sure that parallel ports use 0 to +5 volts, while, as has been
discussed, serial ports use +/- 12 volts.)

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Something seems wrong here. First, since the Candela includes
the eye response curve, a 9300 mcd LED (especially a yellow
one) _should_ look brighter than a 3000 mcd LED. Are you sure
each was operated at their own rated current?

Regarding the rings. When you use a red, green, yellow, etc
LED, you are seeing light generated directly by the LED
junction. When you use a white LED, you are seeing light
generated by a phosphor on the LED which is excited by blue or
near UV light generated by the LED junction. The light from
the phosphor will be more diffuse than the light from the LED
junction.

Vic Roberts

Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
> I got a delivery of high power colored LEDs today. One is in
> yellow with 9300 mcd and the other is in orange with 9500 mcd.
> Both cannot compete with my 3000 mcd white LED. So go for
> white LEDs, even if their mcd value is not as high. There also
> seems to be a difference in quality. The colored LEDs produce
> rings on the screen like a torch, which my white one does not.

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"Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM> wrote:
> I hope these people have sucess with their LED project,
> but
> I suspect that their HP200's will be in the hospital soon.

I think most serial ports are designed to survive even if their
outputs are shorted to ground.

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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> I found something interesting:
> in my last mail to the list I told about the orange
> LED I bought. It was a 20mA, 9500mcd.
> Now I've measured the current: it's only 7mA!
>
> Maybe this is the reason why it's so dark?!
> Maybe it could be brighter with a higher current?!

Yup!

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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> One idea for saving energy while using the Frontlight:
> I thought about what happened when pulsing the current
> for the LED...

Ýsnip¨

> Only a few thoughts - any comments?

Unless the LED is more efficient at high current, pulsing the
LED will not save any energy. The eye works on average power,
not peak power, so nothing is gained by pulsing.

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You need to include the output impedance of the serial port in
your calculations. If the voltage is 12 volts with no load, it
will drop when you draw current.

Vic Roberts


"Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM> wrote:
>
> You should probably design the circuit for the amount of current you =
want to
> go through the LED.  I suggest a starting point of 10 ma.
>
> You then need to apply Ohms Law which is E=3DI*R. "E" is voltage ( =
volts ),
> I=3Dcurrent ( amps ) and R=3Dresistance (ohms).   An LED also has a =
forward
> voltage drop and for this discussion we will assume an approximate 1 =
volt
> drop.
>
> In order to design this, you will need to know the voltage.  For the
> parallel port, assume around 5 volts.  For the serial port, anywhere =
from
> +-12 volts down to +- 6 volts - measured without any load...;.you will =
need
> to measure it.
>
> Assuming we are designing for the paallel port:
>
>         R =3D E/I
>
>         E =3D 5 volts - (Forward diode drop )
>         I =3D 10ma ( .010 amps )
>
>         So....
>
>         R =3D (5 - (Forward diode drop ))/ .01
>         R =3D 4 / .01
>         R =3D 400 ohms
>
> As you can see, for this design the answer is 400 ohms, but a standard =
470
> ohm resistor is close enough.  This will drop the current slightly, but =
the
> error is in the "SAFE-er" direction.
>

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On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> wrote:

> Talking of bright led, I found a little keyring-type of led-based =
flashlight
> at REI (a camping store). I'll look up the name tonight, but it looks =
like
> this: It's a roundish black piece of plastic with an orange led a one =
end
> and a little metal ring at the other end. The led is ultrabright with =
no
> apparent concentric rings and the angle is around 20 degrees. They =
claim its
> light can be seen a mile way and that the battery will last 10 years. =
I'm
> guessing they must've done some research on LED brightness, so it might =
be
> possible to ask them questions about it. I'll let you know what I find.

Just so we are all on the same wavelenght, so to speak <g>.
The "10 year" life statement is a storage life, common for
lithum batteries. They do not mean the battery will last for
10 years of use.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM> wrote:
> Well as I mentioned in a previous email I have been looking (still am) =
for
> an
> Omnibook 300/425/430 model.  Well I received one today (although Im =
still
> looking for another) and while experimenting with it, and due to a lack =
of a
> manual I hit FN+OFF which turns out to activiate some type of password.
>
> Well I feel like an idiot but ive locked myself out of the unit!!! Ive
> searched HP's
> site but no luck.  Anyone know how to reset the password in one of =
these
> things?
>
> Ive removed the batteries but there must be an internal CMOS somewhere.

HP designed the Omnibook password system to be secure. They do
not post instruction for disabling it on their Web  site and
removing the batteries will not do it.

As far as I know, you need to call HP Omnibook support,
convince them you have the right to access the machine and they
will tell you how to unlock it. Sorry, but I don't have the
telephone number with me at this time.

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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>The discharge curve for them is like this:
>
>                       ********************************
>            ***********
>           *
>          *
>         *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>
> More or less. ASCII is not terribly good for charting...

Avi,

This shows a battery where the voltage increases with time. I
don't think software or business types should dabble in
hardware <g>

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On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET> wrote:

> What's the energy delivered by an AA cell? Around 500mA-hours maybe?
> That would be about 3 watt-hours with two batteries, so your 200LX
> would last about two hours between batteries!

AA alkaline cells have about are rated at 2000 to
2500mA-hours. If your other calculations are correct, that
would increase the battery life to 8 to 12 hours. Not too bad
<g>

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              Roberts" at Mar 23, 99 03:46:19 pm
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> I think most serial ports are designed to survive even if their
> outputs are shorted to ground.

Some are, some aren't.  I've just reviewed the manufacturer's data
sheet on the driver chip used in the HP200, and they don't specify
that it will withstand either a permanent or momentary short.  That
doesn't mean that it won't, or that the designers didn't plan for
one or the other condition - just that the mfr doesn't spec this.
The only guaranteed spec is that each driver can only drive a minimum
receiver load of 3.7V (per EIA-562) and can only drive one receiver.
The transmitters may be paralleled to drive heavier loads, but I
don't know if this is done in the 200LX or not.  Perhaps Mack has
an idea...

-Chris

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Alright, my .02  (had to happen)


Mounting/Location:
Mount LEDs by drilling holes in the half circle piece of plastic between the
screen and the base. If the hi brighness LEDs are too big, use smaller LEDs
and just use more of them. There is plenty of space inside for the leads of
the LEDs if trimmed.
There is a very small gap that the LEDs could 'stick' out from this piece.
The LEDs would have to be 'aimed' at the specific angle that you normally
use the screen.
The LEDs would actually be exposed when the case is closed, but hey, they
could serve as a flshlight. (or tell all the WINCE users that the LEDs are
really a scanner  with automatic OCR software.)

Power:
Many options have been discussed here, except I seem to have missed what I
thought was the most obvious: Connect to the battery contacts of the case.
This would supply 1.5 or 3 volts depending on your needs. A small switch
could be mounted on the back of the 'half circle thing' that you would
attach the LEDs to. Granted this would prevent the screen from laying flat,
but another solution could be come up with.

When I go out tonight, I will see what kind of LEDs I can pick up and see
what I can do.
Please remember, I am the one with the multicolor 150lx franken puter, so I
am not scared to damage the looks of the case.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:50:30 +0200
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Hi,

The information above AC adapter for USR Sporster
14.400 (220V for Turkiye);

----------------------------------------------
AC/AC ADAPTER  P/N 1.015.1143B
INPUT: 230V~/ 50HZ/ 40mA/ 9,2VA
8OUTPUT: 9,2V~/ 700mA/ 6,3VA
TYPE: FW 6299
----------------------------------------------


Murat ISIK
ISTANBUL, TR
muratisik@mail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Luther <kluther@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 18:23
Subject: US Robotics Modem Question


>We HP200 owners are probably the few remaining users of these slower speed
>modems so I thought I would ask in this forum
>
>I bought a US Robotics 14,400 baud external modem at a tag sale ($5). It
>should be a nice upgrade to the 2400 baud battery powered one I use now
with
>my 1 meg HP200LX.
>
>The only problem is that no power supply or manual came with the modem.
>
>Anyone have or have access to a such a modem that can tell me what voltage
>(value & type) and current is required? There is no marking of these values
>on the modem's case.
>
>Thanks,
>K e n t
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Roberts Ýmailto:robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 3:46 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED Experiments
>
>
> David Kramer <david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:
> > I've been researching controlling devices from the parallel
> port of my
> > desktop computer, and diagrams I've seen recommend a 470
> ohm resister in
> > series with an LED for testing.  Do you think the port
> characteristics
> > would be similar?
>
> I don't have any data books where I am now, but I don't think
> you should assume that the serial port of any computer, and
> especially the 100/200LX, will have the same voltage and
> current capability of a desktop parallel port. (I'm pretty
> sure that parallel ports use 0 to +5 volts, while, as has been
> discussed, serial ports use +/- 12 volts.)
>

In theory, the serial port pins are supposed to be +/- 12 vdc.   The acutual
specification requires at least +/- 3 volts DC in order to  cause the input
to switch states.  So if the interface IC follows the spec, then if you are
between 3 vdc and 12 vdc, you will have a valid signal.

In practice, modern day interface chips ( i.e. MAX232 ) are around 9 volts,
but the voltage can vary significantly since the supply for this voltage is
** NOT ** regulated, it is generated by a charge pump inside the chip and
does not come directly from the power supply.

I think that the IC manufacturers put a 3K resistor in serias with the
output for protection.  If this is true, you won't get much current out of
it.  Again....the current should be measured....you may be getting less
current than you think.

I am not sure if HP is using the MAX232 or the older MC1488/MC1489
technology...maybe someone could check.

The fact that the port pin voltage is not regulated , and that this voltage
will drop as the load increases are important factors to consider.

Cheers,
Jon

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:30:01 -0500
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I would like to offer the following for $300, or best offer.
Sorry, I don't want to sell seperately.

HP200LX, in excellent condition
Expanded to 5 meg SRAM.
32 meg flash card by Simple Technology
14.4k PC card fax/modem by Megahertz, with the pop up phone jack
HP power adaptor
HP connectivity kit, includs PIM software for PC & serial cable
        with all sorts of adaptors.
Software Carousel with manual, great program for running multiple
        DOS sessions.

Kodak DC 20 digital camera, $20, this camera works very nicely
        with HP200, I'll throw it in for $20 if you buy the whole
        package.

I have a Palm V now, so this is no longer needed.

Thanks,
Yi Wang

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:43:13 -0600
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Roberts Ýmailto:robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 3:47 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED Frontlight
>
>
> Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> > One idea for saving energy while using the Frontlight:
> > I thought about what happened when pulsing the current
> > for the LED...
>
> Ýsnip¨
>
> > Only a few thoughts - any comments?
>
> Unless the LED is more efficient at high current, pulsing the
> LED will not save any energy. The eye works on average power,
> not peak power, so nothing is gained by pulsing.
>
> Vic Roberts


Vic,.... I strongly disagree.  The power used by the LED  is directly
proportional to the duty cycle of the power applied to it.  As the on-time
gets smaller, the eye will percieve it as getting dimmer ( the pulses are
everaged , probably in the brain ) , and the power consumed will be
proportionally less  ( this is a good thing for the HP200 ).

I have seen products that use this technique specifically save power
consumption !

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Roberts Ýmailto:robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 3:47 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED Experiments
>
>
> You need to include the output impedance of the serial port in
> your calculations. If the voltage is 12 volts with no load, it
> will drop when you draw current.
>
> Vic Roberts


Yes indeedy ! And how much it will drop depends on what kind of a load you
put on it.

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Hello all,

Has anyone seen the daVinci PDA?

I just saw it in a magazine, and it has an optional folding palm sized
keyboard.  This may be a GREAT replacement for the old Newton keyboard.

The magazine is online at www.BPR.net.au  and may have photos and links
there.

I assume drivers would have to be written, anyone up to it?



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Hi Chris,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: R. Christopher Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 4:00 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED Experiments
>
>
> > I think most serial ports are designed to survive even if their
> > outputs are shorted to ground.
>
> Some are, some aren't.


If I were going to design it, I would probably look at off the shelf
components which in this case usually means a MAX232 variant.  Engineers
don't usually design in custom parts if the don't have to.

The MAX232 has it's own voltage supply for the +/-12 outputs, so that means
less power supply circuitry.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Petty Ýmailto:swpetty@KIH.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 4:25 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: The (en)lightening discussion
>
>
> Alright, my .02  (had to happen)
>

Got sucked into the conversation  , did ya !    :)



> Power:
> Many options have been discussed here, except I seem to have
> missed what I
> thought was the most obvious: Connect to the battery contacts
> of the case.
> This would supply 1.5 or 3 volts depending on your needs.


I think that 3 volts is better because, then you can wire two LED's in
series ( with a current limiting resistor ). Since they are in series, the
current will not increase.
If you have one LED at 10ma, and then add the second LED, the current will
be the same.  The opposite is true if they are wired in parallel.

Due to the forward voltage drop of the LED,  I think two in series is about
as many as you can do.

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Subject:      Re: LED Frontlight

> Vic,.... I strongly disagree.  The power used by the LED  is directly
> proportional to the duty cycle of the power applied to it.  As the on-time
> gets smaller, the eye will percieve it as getting dimmer ( the pulses are
> everaged , probably in the brain ) , and the power consumed will be
> proportionally less  ( this is a good thing for the HP200 ).
>
> I have seen products that use this technique specifically save power
> consumption !
>
> Jon
>

The exact same effect, dimmer output and lower current, can be had
much more simply via a dropping resistor. The places where LED
outputs are pulsed are usually to get a brighter output than is
possible via a steady state current by over driving the LED during a
short pulse. The off period lets the substrate cool allowing much
more current than if the LED was on continuosly. The only case where
this sort of thing is used to reduce power consumption is in the case
of multiplexing multiple LED's as in a multicharacter display. Almost
all multicharacter displays that use LED's multiplex them to lower
current requirements through the driver stages. The effect is that
only one digit/character is one at any given time but the switch
frequency is so fast the the brain perceives them as all on all the
time at a reduced brightness.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, David Eggins wrote:

> I just saw it in a magazine, and it has an optional folding palm sized
> keyboard.  This may be a GREAT replacement for the old Newton
> keyboard.

I tried this at Comdex, and, sad to say, the keyboard is really pretty
horrible compared to the 200LX.  Very little tactile feedback...

OTOH, it really is compact when folded, and I may just be way too picky.
<g>

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Subject:      Re: World's smallest Linux web server -> 200LX brain transp

> > What's the energy delivered by an AA cell? Around 500mA-hours maybe?
> > That would be about 3 watt-hours with two batteries, so your 200LX
> > would last about two hours between batteries!
>
> AA alkaline cells have about are rated at 2000 to
> 2500mA-hours. If your other calculations are correct, that
> would increase the battery life to 8 to 12 hours. Not too bad
> <g>
>
> Vic

That rating is at a VERY reduced current consumtion. AA cells are
designed to deliver less than 100ma, that is how they arrive at that
high a capacity. You have to look at the discharge curves at
different currents to see the real capacity. The rated discharge rate
is the main reason for the different sizes of cells, larger cells can
deliver more current without loosing capacity due to lower
internal resistance.

Pete

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> > Unless the LED is more efficient at high current, pulsing the
> > LED will not save any energy. The eye works on average power,
> > not peak power, so nothing is gained by pulsing.
> >
> > Vic Roberts
>
>
> Vic,.... I strongly disagree.  The power used by the LED  is directly
> proportional to the duty cycle of the power applied to it.  As the on-time
> gets smaller, the eye will percieve it as getting dimmer ( the pulses are
> everaged , probably in the brain ) , and the power consumed will be
> proportionally less  ( this is a good thing for the HP200 ).

Ummm... there is no disagreement here.  Both of you are right, and there
is no contradiction.  Read your statements very carefully...

The advantage of pulsing, as I see it, is that it is more easil
implemented in digital circuits as a technique of varying LED intensity
without requiring some more complex analog circuitry.


-Chris Lott

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For those of you interested, the output characteristics of the HP200LX
comm port drivers can be found on the Maxim web site.  According to
Mack, they use the MAX560.  The output VI curves can be found in the
data sheet.  THe only possible variation is whether HP chose to
parallel the drivers, and/or place any additional current limiting
circuitry in the output path (versus directly connection the 560 pin
to the connector pin).

I'm going to compare this data with that from the LED you guys are
using - if I can ever get the data sheet (or just the manufacturer
for that matter!)

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:06:34 +0000
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Hi all.

I've just managed to get my hands on a higher brightness LED (unfortunately
red) from Maplin in the UK.
RS do have the white ones (I've got the P/N number at work) they sell for
about ukp5. But have just lost
my wallet so Credit cards are all on Hold!

Anyway, measurements on my HP200lx

from Ground to DTR:

        Open cct Voltage         = 6.4V
        Short cct Currrent= 13mA

        Calc internal resistance ~ 500ohms

        LED connected alone draws a curent of 10mA

        LED with a series 330ohm resistor, draws a current = 6mA
        but brightness is effected!

IMHO, a direct connection between Gnd and DTR will (in the words of
Microsoft's lawyers) be OK.

The internal 500ohm resistance will limit current draw to only 10mA, which
from a serial port is non
too bad.

All the best

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:40:51 -0600
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Okay folks... here's the preliminary answer to my earlier question
regarding the HP200LX, the Accurite Double Slot adaptor, and the Trans
Digital TransPC PCMCIA parallel port adaptor and the Iomega 100MB
parallel port Zip removable disk drive (whew- say *that* three
times fast!)

I've gotten my system booted in such a manner that I can see the
Zip drive while using the Double Slot adaptor with the TransPC card
and my flash drive!!!  This is a big deal (to me), since I can now
back up my flash card to the zip drive (about $10/MB media cost).

Here's what I did...

(1) I got the TransPC/Zip combination to work first all alone, without
the double slot or my flash card.  Used the instructions and also the
help of list member Phil (I had to use his Iomega drivers, since the
ones that came with my drive wouldn't work).

(2) Then I copied the various files that show up on the TransPC card
onto my C: drive in their own directory.

(3) While I had this working, I went ahead and did a complete C: drive
backup of my 32M C drive.

(4) Next, I powered down and went to the Double Slot configuration.
Put the Flash drive in the bottom slot, the TransPC in the top.

(5) I rebooted, went to the C drive TRANSPC directory from step (2),
and ran the CIC program as required.  Then ran GUEST.

Now I can see my ZIP drive (it came up on H:) and Flash disk (A:) at
the same time.

Finally, despite all good warnings to the contrary, I fired up sysmgr
and started FILER.  From there, I was able to backup files from the
A: drive to the H: drive!  It wasn't too fast - I think the XCOPY
did a much faster job of copying data.


QUESTIONS:

(1) I can't see the "drive" that belongs to the TransPC card in this
double slot setup, although I don't need to in my case.  But I wonder
if loading DS_ATA would help.  I tried it, and it didn't *appear* to
make any difference.

(2) I have a patch that I downloaded from Super, supposedly for using
the DS_ATA driver on those x2 machines (this is what I have).  There
are no instructions, and I don't know what to do.  It is a .COM file,
significantly smaller than the original .SYS file.  Does the program
actually *patch* the original .SYS file?  Run instead or in addition
to it?

Anyway, thought you guys would like to know my progress.  Now I have
a good means for fairly easy back and method for *huge* file transfers.

Apparently the TransPC is good for parallel port file transfers, using
some provided software.  I haven't explored this, yet.

-Chris


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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:11:10 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: LED Frontlight

> Ummm... there is no disagreement here.  Both of you are right, and there
> is no contradiction.  Read your statements very carefully...
>
> The advantage of pulsing, as I see it, is that it is more easil
> implemented in digital circuits as a technique of varying LED intensity
> without requiring some more complex analog circuitry.
>
>
> -Chris Lott

Pulse Width Modulation, which is what we are discussing, will only
save power when the power used by the active circuitry is less than
the losses from a simple dropping resistor. At the currents we are
talking about here I don't think a pwm circuit could compete.

Now if you just need a variable brightness system then pwm would be
the way to go, even those at these current levels a simple
potentiometer (spelling?) would do just as well.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:54:51 -0600
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All,

It turns out the person I purchased the Omnibook 300 from remembered the
password
and sent it to me in email.  Ive yet to hear back from HP,. but im up and
running again!

Thanks to everyone who offered what they knew about getting this up and
running.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:26:27 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Fold up keyboard.

As an aside - does anyone know the name / manufacturer of something I saw
today that works w/ the PalmIII Ýthere's an LX angles in a moment.....<g>¨??

This was a 1/2 - 2/3 size keyboard w/ a plug-in for the PalmIII, I think it
was called, literally, "Type!it" or something like that.

Quick ASCII drawing:


                   Front
                   ______
PalmIII ------ >  |      |
                  |      |
         _________|______|________
        |         |______|        |
        |-------------------------|
KB -->  |-------------------------|
        |-------------------------|
        |_________________________|


                   Side
                           _
                          / /
                         / /
                        / /
          -------------/ /-
         |______________/__|

Actually, I was jealous of all the ASCII-art I saw in the LED discussion and
had to try it <g>.

I'm possibly looking for a Joint LX--Palm-x ÝIII+, V, whatever¨ solution. If
this thing's KB is better than the Newton KB solution; maybe I can do my
typing into the Palm critter and port it to the LX w/ a memory card, dunno.

If anyone knows what this keyboard-dock is, feel free to email me off-list,
as this may *still* be too non-LX, my NEXT question Ýdifferent post¨ is more
LX but involves an older, pretty obscure critter as a possible KB sub.

TIA,

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:26:39 -0600
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Subject:      Looking at an OBSCURE KB "solution"

Howdy all.

This is obscure enough to be "off topic" *BUT* it really is an LX question.

I used to do a LOT of my typing on the old Radio Shack Model 100's Ýalso the
Tandy 102 and even a Tandy 200¨.  These, AFAIK, are CP/M machines w/ a real
serial ÝDB25¨, a proprietary parallel and a modem port Ývery proprietary DIN
critter, that dials up at an honest 300 baud¨.

Anyway, this was my pre-LX, LX Machine.  I still have a few kicking around
and love the keyboard on one. I can, and have used a utility to type an
ASCII file on a m100 and send it to the LX on a homemade cable attached to
the LX's adapting cable.

Is there a way to send KB signals directly to the LX, like the Newton KB
solution?

If I were typing 'directly' into the LX, I think I could justify hanging
onto one of them, if not they eventually may go to eBay or a consignment
shop.

Those who remember the "Model T's" know they run on 4 AA bttys, can be
expanded to a whopping 32KB and have some programs on pluggable ROM, some
built in ÝBASIC, etc.¨ and some you could load from cassette.  It let you
see what you were typing on a 4-line, 40-column LCD screen and had a 6-dot-2
file-name limitation (if I remember properly, myself).  I didn't buy them
new {I'll be <only> 35 in two weeks}, as I was a "poor student" when they
came out.....

I'm not above using a BASIC program to send proper KB scan-codes to the LX
but have *NO* idea where to start there Ýmy one BASIC course is a distant
memory and we did not discuss sending codes thru any of the COM ports....but
I'll learn, if anyone has any pointers/possibilities¨.

TIA for any help - Tandy/RS affectionado (sp?) comments are welcome off list
to save bandwidth!

--tim

P.S. If there's an "easy" solution here, you can find these for around $100
now ... I think the CompuServe forum for these has gone away and, with that
forum's passing, I may've lost my best audience/market for selling them :-(

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:40:17 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
Subject:      Re: Kodak DC-20 Driver
Comments: To: "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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>Hi !
>I have probably asked about this before, but as long as we are on the
>subject does anybody have a program for the LX that can download from
a
>Cannon Powershot 350 ?I was thinking that the communications protocol
was similar to >some othercameras.

Hi Jon,

You shouldn't need to use any software, I also have a Powershot, and
was
very impressed when I poppped the Compact Flash into the HPLX (with
a CF Flash PCMIA Adaptor) to find that it read the Powershot Card
(mine is 2Mb) as an A drive, the files could then be loaded to a PC
via
Tranfile.   An excellent solution when mobile, I just keep a floppy
with Tranfile
on it then pop it into the nearest persons PC <grin>.

Best regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:41:58 -0800
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Looking at an OBSCURE KB "solution"
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> Anyway, this was my pre-LX, LX Machine.  I still have a few kicking around
> and love the keyboard on one. I can, and have used a utility to type an
> ASCII file on a m100 and send it to the LX on a homemade cable attached to
> the LX's adapting cable.
>
> Is there a way to send KB signals directly to the LX, like the Newton KB
> solution?

There's REMKEY, a program on SUPER that will send redirect keyboard
signals out a serial port... but that's a DOS program.  IIRC, Craig Payne
wrote the program... the source may be available somewhere (maybe even the
distribution .zip!) so it could be possible to port it to the M100.

This is just speculation, though.  I use REMKEY on my desktop under WinNT
and it works... but I don't know about the M100.

Hmmm... I wonder if it'd work on my ol' Portable Plus... <g>


Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:25:02 EST
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In a message dated 3/23/1999 8:09:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE writes:

>
>  Well, to be honest, I abused the scared comments as a pretext
>  to stop development. The truth is: I got a call from Microsoft.

Hands down, best post in months!

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 02:00:36 +0000
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BTW, LxPic is aware of Kodak DC20 IMG format. You can view
them without any modifications, but they are quit large. From
the time I used this camera, I have the batch file I2J.BAT left,
which did the IMG to JPG conversion:

img2gray -v -s %1.img %1.bmp
cjpeg -grayscale -quality 25 -dct fast -smooth 90 %1.bmp
del %1.img
del %1.bmp

If you need the IMG2GRAY and CJPEG programs, let me know.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:56:05 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking at an OBSCURE KB "solution"
In-Reply-To:  <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225E2F@N3CDOIMMAIL160M> from
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" at Mar 23, 99 06:26:39 pm
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> Is there a way to send KB signals directly to the LX, like the Newton KB
> solution?
>
> If I were typing 'directly' into the LX, I think I could justify hanging
> onto one of them, if not they eventually may go to eBay or a consignment
> shop.

You might want to check out my suggestion in the Palmtop paper awhile back...
If you don't have it, I'll try to dig up my notes.  The technique I've
used successfully is to re-route the console using the CTTY (pronounced
"change-titty") command.  Basically, you execute the CTTY command, and
connect up your terminal or computer running terminal emulation software.
This requires that the LX programs you run properly deal with this re-
direction.  I think it was the Elvis (vi-clone) that I was most successful
with - you won't get things like Lotus 123 or Phone Book to run this
way!  Let me know if you want more information - I can send you some
batch files I use to start and end this mode of operation.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 02:39:20 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Cebit: SORCUS 486 micro PC
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This is no fluff like my previous posting about the MS USB LED.

At Cebit, the manufacturer SORCUS introduced the worlds
smallest 486 PC. It is a 29mm x 58mm x 10mm computer fitting
completely into a matchbox.

Look at their site for details and a photo:

http://www.sorcus.de

Unfortunatly only the unimportant parts of this interesting
development are translated into english. So try to find your
way through the german texts and keep track of the X-bus
entries.

From my understanding, it has all standard controllers of a
PC on board, like video, keyboard, pcmcia, serial, parallel.
You only have to build a case with all connectors around it,
and it could be a real successor of the HP200LX.

Their target markets are also palmtops, as they state on one
page. Hopeful future!

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:23:30 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Chris,

 > Rod Whitby's PNR.  I wasn't ever able to get it working with WWW/LX
 > for some reason, although Avi and others have said that the latest
 > release of WWW will support cell phones.

Both correct!

The latest _can_ handle SH888 over IR. The latest _you_
have is not. The latest I have is still in beta, and not
released yet, and I said that too in the same post, I
believe, or should have said so. Tony also mentioned it,
and he is correct, he just ommitted that he also uses the
latest _BETA_ www.exe, not the one publicly released.

We are finishing work on it now, and have been delayed by
an issue unrelated to IR. I promise to announce it here as
soon as I post the new version on the Webpage.

(Please, anyone reading this: I have no idea when this will
be, really. I think a few days, but no idea how many "few"
is right now... It depends on the testing and how
comfortable and solid we think it is. We strive to release
robust product, not problematic code. So when it is out,
I'll announce it here! If any one writes to me asking when
I'll give you one one of my wonderfully glib replies, and
will privately doubt the sturdiness of your mind! :) ...)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:18:05 +0800
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I use the Powershot 350 and frankly, the easiest download-to-HPLX software one
can get is DOS (with a CF-PC adaptor). Just pull out the CF, stick it into the
adaptor, adaptor into card and then do a normal file copy. I used to take ages
downloading stuff from the camera to the PC (ie Windows), it works but it's
really slow. Suggest getting an adaptor ...

///I have probably asked about this before, but as long as we are on the
subject does anybody have a program for the LX that can download from a
Cannon Powershot 350 ?///

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:58:58 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I have a copy of Boot Commander that I bought a few years back from
Mix Software - apparently it was written by "V Communications".  Any
one use this on their HP?  I'm gonna give it a try...unless someone
knows of potential problems

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:47:03 -0800
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>If I had some time - regrettably I haven't...
>
>I would experiment using some clear embedding resin to cast some
>Ýrectangular¨ lens shapes into a smooth resin mould.
>
>I would embed a white hi power LED directly into the top of the resin
>lens before it hardens.
>
>This resin is optically very clear - bubbles could be the only problem
>but that can be overcome with technique.
>I think any nuisance bubbles will float up Ýout of the way¨ if the cure
>time is made long enough.
><snip>

I was thinking...

Is there a flexible, fiber optic cable that can emanate light away from the
fiber when a light is pumped through the end?  If so, then attach the fiber
around the perimeter of the display, running one end out to the side of the
case (maybe drill a hole in the side of the case to accept the end of the
fiber), where the white led can be plugged into it.  This would certainly
help with uniformity of light diffusion across the display.  The fiber could
be attached with a clear acetate or tape.  If the fiber and overlay were
small enough, it would conceivably not interfere with the ability to shut
the case. The question is, can fiber make the 90 degree bend at the corners?


Just a wild a** guess...

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Hi Chris,

> anything back.  Can someone who actually has one of these provide
> the manufacturer and manufacturer's part number?  Apparently, Conrad
> Electronics is just a distributor...

Sorry, but the catalogue of Conrad Electronic doesn't say anything
about the manufacturer.
But I'll try to get this information from Segor Electronics,
they probably have also these LEds.

GTX
daniel

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Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 06:26:39PM -0600, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
> Howdy all.
>
> This is obscure enough to be "off topic" *BUT* it really is an LX question.
>
> I used to do a LOT of my typing on the old Radio Shack Model 100's Ýalso the
> Tandy 102 and even a Tandy 200¨.  These, AFAIK, are CP/M machines w/ a real
> serial ÝDB25¨, a proprietary parallel and a modem port Ývery proprietary DIN
> critter, that dials up at an honest 300 baud¨.

I have two of these, and from what i remember, the OS was propietary and not
cp/m compatible, and the parallel port was standard but needed an adapter.

> Anyway, this was my pre-LX, LX Machine.  I still have a few kicking around
> and love the keyboard on one. I can, and have used a utility to type an
> ASCII file on a m100 and send it to the LX on a homemade cable attached to
> the LX's adapting cable.
>
> Is there a way to send KB signals directly to the LX, like the Newton KB
> solution?
>
> If I were typing 'directly' into the LX, I think I could justify hanging
> onto one of them, if not they eventually may go to eBay or a consignment
> shop.

the simplest and not most compatible method to use them as a keyboard is
to redir the console to the serial port (either via ctty or "command.com com1"
iirc), but the the display gets sent to the m100 as well and only bios
friendly text mode programs will work.  a general purpose driver to allow
any serial terminal (in dumb tty mode i think would suffice) to act as stdin
to the hplx would allow this to work, along with any other small computing
device with a serial port and a comm proggy.

> Those who remember the "Model T's" know they run on 4 AA bttys, can be
> expanded to a whopping 32KB and have some programs on pluggable ROM, some
> built in ÝBASIC, etc.¨ and some you could load from cassette.  It let you
> see what you were typing on a 4-line, 40-column LCD screen and had a 6-dot-2
> file-name limitation (if I remember properly, myself).  I didn't buy them
> new {I'll be <only> 35 in two weeks}, as I was a "poor student" when they
> came out.....
>
> I'm not above using a BASIC program to send proper KB scan-codes to the LX
> but have *NO* idea where to start there Ýmy one BASIC course is a distant
> memory and we did not discuss sending codes thru any of the COM ports....but
> I'll learn, if anyone has any pointers/possibilities¨.
>
> TIA for any help - Tandy/RS affectionado (sp?) comments are welcome off list
> to save bandwidth!
>
> --tim
>
> P.S. If there's an "easy" solution here, you can find these for around $100
> now ... I think the CompuServe forum for these has gone away and, with that
> forum's passing, I may've lost my best audience/market for selling them :-(

www.the-dock.com/club100.html


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On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 04:41:58PM -0800, Bill Childers wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
>
> > Anyway, this was my pre-LX, LX Machine.  I still have a few kicking around
> > and love the keyboard on one. I can, and have used a utility to type an
> > ASCII file on a m100 and send it to the LX on a homemade cable attached to
> > the LX's adapting cable.
> >
> > Is there a way to send KB signals directly to the LX, like the Newton KB
> > solution?
>
> There's REMKEY, a program on SUPER that will send redirect keyboard
> signals out a serial port... but that's a DOS program.  IIRC, Craig Payne
> wrote the program... the source may be available somewhere (maybe even the
> distribution .zip!) so it could be possible to port it to the M100.
>
> This is just speculation, though.  I use REMKEY on my desktop under WinNT
> and it works... but I don't know about the M100.
>
> Hmmm... I wonder if it'd work on my ol' Portable Plus... <g>

if the hplx side could be modified to acceptany serial terminal instead
ofthe client proggie, then this would be an incredibly versatile way of
adding keyboards to the lx.. now who's up to it ;¨

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Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
batteries at around US$7 per pair.

The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these
in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is able
to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.

thanks for your attention.

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On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:43:34 +0000, you wrote:
I have the 1300mah and find they work well...

>Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
>batteries at around US$7 per pair.
>
>The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried =
these
>in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
>seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is =
able
>to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.
>
>thanks for your attention.
>
>Anand Rao
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>figliozi wrote:

>Is there a flexible, fiber optic cable that can emanate light away from >the fiber when a light is pumped through the end?
>If so, then attach the fiber around the perimeter of the display, >running one end out to the side of the case (maybe drill a hole in the >side of the case to accept the end of the fiber, where the white led >can be plugged into it.


One major problem of illuminating the 200LX screen is that of reflection
from the glass/ plastic front of the screen.
The effect is to waste light and to illuminate the plastic front rather
than the characters behind it.

The best place for a light source so that reflection is minimised is
directly front of the screen.
Unfortunately this blocks the view of the screen.
The worst place is close to the screen and on one edge of it.

The best tradeoff position would appear to be above the screen and
perhaps 2-3" away from it with some mechanism to spread the LED light
out.

The 6000 mcd white LED I saw seen recently was certainly very bright but
only had a very narrow viewing angle and its beam would require a lot of
spreading.

However because it is so narrowly focussed it would be a perfect light
source for a fibre optic bundle as suggested above.

A possibly good answer would be to somehow position the output end of a
bundle of 30-60 fibre strands toward the screen from say 3" and fan each
light element out slightly to achieve an even screen illumination.

I would first obtain some pre-drilled matrix board and poke 2 fibres
through each hole and tape the bundle behind so that the fibres fanned
out suitably at the front.
ÝMaybe drill a few extra holes in between to create a rectangle¨.

I would then introduce epoxy/ or glue to the space in behind the tape.
When set I woud trim up the fibre ends with a sharp razor blade.

An improvement might be to divide the bundle in two and create two light
fans spread 2-3 inches apart. ÝLike having two LEDs¨
The curves needed on the fibre should be acceptable.
It may be possible to remove the matrix board later to improve the
appearance.

I understand that suitable plastic fibre optic material 64 strands/
bundle can be obtained cheaply by the meter/ yard from Edmund Scientific
in USA.

The effect of the above would be to spread the narrow angle of the high
intensity LED over the whole screen in a compact and flexible package.
It should not be an insurmountable problem to attach an adjusting arm to
the case in some fashion.

The batteries to provide current for the LED are both very accessible
when the battery cover is removed.

ps Just spotted an old PC mother board with a scocket7 plastic socket on
it.
The hole spacing looks perfect to spread the fibres.
I would hacksaw and file it and glue it as necessary.

Another alternative could be to poke holes in thin plastic or through
some card with a needle.

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There were recent postings about maps of the Manhatten subway
system for use with LXMAP. I have used LXMAP before so I
d/l'ed the files and now find that LXMAP won't run. I get a
message to use LXPIC v4.2 or higher. I am using LXPIC 6.2. I
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I'm very pleased to see many of you looking at the fundamentals
of the serial port capabilities.

Before I connected my white LED to the serial port, I indeed
first tried the direct connection to the two AA batteries. But
the LED was only dimming and I was very surprised about the
brightness at the serial port. The LED seems to like the higher
voltage there. Unfortunately all I know about my LED is, that
it is listed at 20mA, no manufacturer, no typ. Volt or anything
else. (Conrad Electronic part # 15 37 45-60)

Concerning the pulse mode discussion, please consider: DOS
cannot multitask. If pulse mode means, a software has to drive
pins high and low at a certain frequence, that can only be done
by the actual running program which would be a LED driver.

But then you cannot use any other software, while the LED
driver is running. Quite useless!

However LIGHTON is a TSR, checking 18x per second, if the
serial port is still powered. That's a different approach
and cannot be used to pulse the serial port, because it would
affect heavily the overall performance of the palmtop and would
still flicker, because the process is interrupted 18x per
second.

BTW, if the Fn+L hotkey conflicts with an already used key, you
may patch in any other keycode. It's explained in LIGHTON.DOC.

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I'm playing with my new Zip drive, and I'd like a better way to copy my
disk from FLASH to the Zip.  Using FILER is *real* slow...  it seems much
slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs that
are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
different disk drives?  Since I have the space, I'd like to avoid using
PKZIP, and store the backup files uncompressed.

-Chris Lott

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>slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs that
>are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between


Hi,

How about Volkov Commander? Aka VC. Look for the mod to VC on SUPER, it must
probably contains a referance to VC. Otherwise search the net for it.

br

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Somewhere someone posted a macro they had written for the appt book that
when you entered a new repeating appt. you could run the macro and it would
put in a REM 4 days prior and then the Birthday out till the year 2005.  My
200lx locked up and I had to reset so I lost the macro and can't remember
where I found it.  Can anyone help?

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> How about Volkov Commander? Aka VC. Look for the mod to VC on SUPER, it must
> probably contains a referance to VC. Otherwise search the net for it.

Are there any compatibility issues with the palmtop (HP200LX, 32MB, 2X,
w/160MB FLASH, Accton Ethernet, XJacks 14.4K Modem, and TransPC parallel
port card, and Double Slot adaptor).

-Chris Lott

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>Are there any compatibility issues with the palmtop (HP200LX, 32MB, 2X,
>w/160MB FLASH, Accton Ethernet, XJacks 14.4K Modem, and TransPC parallel
>port card, and Double Slot adapter).

Hi Chris,

Are you asking if there's a compat. issue w/ the DS Adapter? <or perhaps
between an upgraded palmtop and the Volkov commander program?>

I spoke to the Double-Slot folks once Ýmore than 6 months ago¨ and I think
they said their device wouldn't work w/ most 2X palmtops.  I managed to
speak to one of the senior guys in the company and he was VERY up-front,
i.e. (roughly) "I'd like to sell you one, but I really bet it won't work".
I was impressed w/ the company ÝI'm impressed w/ anyone who puts customer
satisfaction ahead of making a sale!¨. He said there were a FEW palmtops out
there that had been double-speeded and worked w/ the Doubleslot.  I also
think I remember that I couldn't use both a modem and a Type III mini-HDD at
the same time, even if the DS worked Ýat the time I was hunting to do that,
since it was pre-64MB upgrade and I wanted to download BIG files¨.

It was more of a cycles-per-second thing than a driver thing; but maybe
they've got a fix by now....

Not sure if this was what you were after but HTH,

--tim

PS. BTW, *are* you the one guy who made the DS work w/ a 2X machine?
There's always an exception out there!   ;-)

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>> Is there a way to send KB signals directly to the LX, like the Newton KB
>> solution?
>>
>> If I were typing 'directly' into the LX, I think I could justify hanging
>> onto one of them, if not they eventually may go to eBay or a consignment
>> shop.

> Basically, you execute the CTTY command, and
> connect up your terminal or computer running terminal emulation software.
> This requires that the LX programs you run properly deal with this re-
> direction.  I think it was the Elvis (vi-clone) that I was most successful
> with - you won't get things like Lotus 123 or Phone Book to run this
> way!

Like Chris mentioned, I've used CTTY to receive keystrokes over the serial port
from my Model 100 to my (then new) IBM PC-XT. I never got it to run in anything
except DOS on the PC side, though, so most apps on your LX are probably
inaccessible to your M100 using this method. (It's kinda fun though!)

Maybe your best bet is a keyboard driver on the LX like that for the Newton
keyboard.

If such a thing already exists, you'll probably find it on one of these Model
100 sites:

http://www.the-dock.com/club100.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6310/top.html
http://www.tmne.com/~tmne/
http://www.trs-80.com/trs80-10.htm

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I am using Norton Commander. Works great.

Regards

Helmuth

> >slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs =
that
> >are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
>
> Hi,
>
> How about Volkov Commander? Aka VC. Look for the mod to VC on SUPER, it =
must
> probably contains a referance to VC. Otherwise search the net for it.
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:21:04 +0200
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I sent this e-mail previously without response. Can someone
offer some advice please.

I would like to copy between the various 'Palmtops' of Super
Software Carousel on the HP200Lx. I would also like to copy
text from newsgroup e-mail to standard e-mail, but it appears
that Pal Edit only copies and pastes in the same letter.
Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Rian Maartens

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:39:12 -0600
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In-Reply-To:  <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225E32@N3CDOIMMAIL160M> from
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> Are you asking if there's a compat. issue w/ the DS Adapter? <or perhaps
> between an upgraded palmtop and the Volkov commander program?>

Just about VC and my setup.

> I spoke to the Double-Slot folks once Ýmore than 6 months ago¨ and I think
> they said their device wouldn't work w/ most 2X palmtops.  I managed to
> speak to one of the senior guys in the company and he was VERY up-front,
> i.e. (roughly) "I'd like to sell you one, but I really bet it won't work".
> I was impressed w/ the company ÝI'm impressed w/ anyone who puts customer
> satisfaction ahead of making a sale!¨. He said there were a FEW palmtops out
> there that had been double-speeded and worked w/ the Doubleslot.

Boy I must be very lucky!  I have a double slot adaptor and a 2X machine.
I actually bought it before I heard there was a compatibility issue.  I
downloaded a patch from SUPER, but I haven't used it (haven't needed to,
and wouldn't know how if I had to - there aren't any instructions, and
it isn't obvious what you're supposed to do).  So far, my Double Slot has
worked great in these two modes:

(A)    TOP:   Accton Ethernet Card
    BOTTOM:   ST160MB FLASH Card

(B)    TOP:   TransPC Parallel Port Card
    BOTTOM:   ST160MB FLASH Card

As I type, I'm breaking *two* rules I recently learned about:

    (1) my palmtop is copying my FLASH drive to a Zip drive, both
        cards in the Double Slot adaptor, which isn't supposed to
        work on a 2X machine, and...

    (2) I'm doing the file transfers in FILER/SYSMGR, which isn't
        supposed to be compatible with the Zip drivers.

I must be livin' right, or something!

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:40:28 GMT
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Hi Chris,

> anything back.  Can someone who actually has one of these provide
> the manufacturer and manufacturer's part number?  Apparently, Conrad
> Electronics is just a distributor...

Segor Electronics get their LEDs from - what a surprise! -
Hewlett Packard!
But the brightest white LED Segor have is 1100mcd.

To find other manufactures the guys of Segor suggested
to do a search in the internet for keywords like
'white', 'LED', 'data sheets', 'AllnGaP'....

I tried to contact Conrad Electronics about an hour,
but without success. Everytime I called them,
they said 'we are only the order hotline - we don't
know! Try the technical hotline...' and they gave me
another number. Calling that number, the same procedure:
I spoke to the order hotline again.... and so on.

Now I have one number seeming NOT to be the order hotline,
because the line is busy all the time.
Now I haven't time any more to try and try...
If someone of you has much time, here is the number:
+49 (0)1805/312118

Good luck!
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:40:21 GMT
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Hi,

> Please remember, I am the one with the multicolor 150lx franken puter, so I
> am not scared to damage the looks of the case.

What do you mean by that?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:40:24 GMT
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Hi,

> output for protection.  If this is true, you won't get much current out of
> it.  Again....the current should be measured....you may be getting less
> current than you think.

Yes - as I said - I've measured 7mA with an orange LED specified
with 20mA.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:00:05 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              Hertrich" at Mar 24, 99 04:40:28 pm
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> I tried to contact Conrad Electronics about an hour,
> but without success. Everytime I called them,
> they said 'we are only the order hotline - we don't
> know! Try the technical hotline...' and they gave me
> another number. Calling that number, the same procedure:
> I spoke to the order hotline again.... and so on.

I finally got a PDF file back from my e-mail inquiry of
yesterday.  It was only an abbreviated data sheet, one
page long.  I contacted the manufacturer's USA representative,
and have requested a full set of specifications.  He has
asked me for my FAX number, so I hope to get it soon.

-Chris Lott

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Well... I'm sitting here in the Pontiac/Buick dealership in town,
awaiting the completion of my (car's) oil change.  I figured I'd wander =
the
dealership a bit... Picked up a brochure on the Buick Park Avenue
(mainly because it has the same supercharged engine as my Pontiac Grand
Prix GTP), and was flipping through it... The brochure has a fellow
looking at his dayrunnner, and holding a 200LX!  <grin>  No puny WinCE
box for the Buick-Man!

Although GM doesn't know everything.... why would this mythical fellow
need a dayrunner with a 200LX...???



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South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
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Subject:      Re: Looking at an OBSCURE KB "solution"
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

re:
>You might want to check out my suggestion in the Palmtop paper awhile
back...
>If you don't have it, I'll try to dig up my notes.  The technique I've
>used successfully is to re-route the console using the CTTY <snip>

Which PTP?  I *should* have it ÝI've got the '98 CD and can look up the
bits, if I can't find the atoms (a Nicholas Negroponte-type "quote"
regarding the adv. of electronic docs over paper...)¨.

It sounds like CTTY'll be my best bet .... I suppose I can run EDIT.COM on
the LX and type directly to that from the M100....

>Let me know if you want more information - I can send you some
>batch files I use to start and end this mode of operation.

Batch files would be great!  TIA,

--tim



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Subject:      Re: Looking at an OBSCURE KB "solution"
Comments: To: "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@skyshot.poly.edu>

Francois,

Thanks,

re:
>I have two of these, and from what i remember, the OS was propietary and
not
>cp/m compatible, and the parallel port was standard but needed an adapter.

I think I stand (or sit, at the moment) corrected on the CP/M thing and
you're right, the parallel port is a long, double-row of pins (somewhat like
a long LX COM1), but I have the adapter to print to certain printers ....
I'll prob. experiment w/ the CTTY and the COM port, I didn't want to make
any more cables to do this experiment.

Do you know about the fate of the M100 forum on CompuServe?  I think, when
the forums started switching from ASCII access to whatever they're using
now, many older forums dropped out.

Thanks for the thoughts!

--tim


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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:12:24 -0600
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Comments: To: "Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM" <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>

re:
>Maybe your best bet is a keyboard driver on the LX like that for the Newton
>keyboard.

*That* would be cool!

>If such a thing already exists, you'll probably find it on one of these
Model
>100 sites:

Thanks for all the links!!

--tim

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:22:41 -0500
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Subject:      DIS: F1 key on upper half of 200LX
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 Up till this past weekend the display above the F1 on the upper half of the
200LX showed the word "Help".    Now it displays numbers 2.51 or 2.46 or 2.32.
This happens to all built in applications and SC apps.   When I open an
application the display first shows Help and then it changes to numbers.

Can someone explain what is happening here and how to correct?

Thanks,
Joe

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:21:42 -0500
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Subject:      TECH: CRC Error
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Does anyone know what a CRC error is?      When I bring up Pocket Quicken and
enter one particular account, I get back a "data record CRC error occurred
during function".      How do I fix the problem?

Thanks
Joe

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:53:27 -0500
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Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:50:26 -0500 (EST)

17m05s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Joe Lapp wrote:

>  Up till this past weekend the display above the F1 on the upper half =
of the
> 200LX showed the word "Help".    Now it displays numbers 2.51 or 2.46 =
or 2.32.
> This happens to all built in applications and SC apps.   When I open an
> application the display first shows Help and then it changes to numbers.

Hi Joe-

Did you by any chance just install ABC/LX?  It puts the battery voltage
on the F1 label.  If you don't want this there's a menu option to
disable it.

HTH

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:56:19 -0500
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Joe Lapp wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what a CRC error is?      When I bring up Pocket Quicken and
> enter one particular account, I get back a "data record CRC error occurred
> during function".      How do I fix the problem?

CRC stands for Cyclical Redundancy Check.  It's a type of checksum done
on date to verify that it is valid.  It sounds like PQ stores the CRC of
each record, and compares the computed value to the stored value to
verify that the data has not changed due to corruption or manipulation
outside the program.

In other words, "that's bad".

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You must have installed a program such as abc/lx that displays the battery
voltage there as an option.

-Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Lapp <Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 10:40 AM
Subject: DIS: F1 key on upper half of 200LX


> Up till this past weekend the display above the F1 on the upper half of
the
>200LX showed the word "Help".    Now it displays numbers 2.51 or 2.46 or
2.32.
>This happens to all built in applications and SC apps.   When I open an
>application the display first shows Help and then it changes to numbers.
>
>Can someone explain what is happening here and how to correct?
>
>Thanks,
>Joe
>
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>
>

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From: Kenneth G. Pearce

Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:00:29 +0100
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I use the rather old Norton Commander with ZIP compression incl.

Also the DOS tool ICOPY.EXE which is taken the daily backup (incremental)

Harry Wellner, Netherlands

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From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 3:36 PM
Subject: File Backup Recommendation?


>I'm playing with my new Zip drive, and I'd like a better way to copy my
>disk from FLASH to the Zip.  Using FILER is *real* slow...  it seems much
>slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs that
>are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
>different disk drives?  Since I have the space, I'd like to avoid using
>PKZIP, and store the backup files uncompressed.
>
>-Chris Lott
>
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>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:49:24 -0800
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Has anyone tried recharging normal alkaline batteries using one of the
special alkaline charger? Did you get a good multiple usage out of you
alkaline batteries? What kind of usage after the initial (out of the
package) charge?

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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From: slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 6:43 AM
Subject: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries


> Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
> batteries at around US$7 per pair.
>
> The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these
> in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
> seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is
able
> to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.
>
> thanks for your attention.
>
> Anand Rao
> (Not connected with  Gold Peak Industries in any way ...)
>
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The easy way I found was to XCOPY  my C:\  drive compleat to my=20
PCMCIA  card then copy the compleat card into my main PC computer
using a PC card reader/writer    PCD 10 model...
No Zipping or compressing at all..
this takes only 15 seconds to do... =20
How much faster or easer could it be...
Dean   W5GXL



On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:38:58 -0600, you wrote:

>I'm playing with my new Zip drive, and I'd like a better way to copy my
>disk from FLASH to the Zip.  Using FILER is *real* slow...  it seems =
much
>slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs =
that
>are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
>different disk drives?  Since I have the space, I'd like to avoid using
>PKZIP, and store the backup files uncompressed.
>
>-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:08:58 +1100
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At 04:01 PM 24/03/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs that
>>are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
Fastlynx or Laplink are good.  I use FX mostly cause is compresses for
serial/parallel transfer if needed.  Local copy of all files plus
subdirectories and can set a "form" to do the same files next time.

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:09:35 -0600
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What version of Norton Commander are you guys using on your palmtops?
I've had it recommended... I checked the Symantec site, and they have
something that looks too new to be what I've read about here on the
mailing list.  I've read folks talking about version 2, 3 and 4, yet
they had advertised as brand-new a version 2.  Must be a different
numbering system...

Where does one get Norton Commander (one suitable for the palmtop)
anyway?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:10:56 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Talking about using the serial port with a led, my first experiment was
about ten years ago when I was trying to find an easy way to control my VCR
with my Sinclair QL to record simple 3D animations for a high school science
fair project. Here's how I rigged it: Connected the QL 9PIN serial port to a
led in a little box. When I sent a &FFsignal to the serial port for 1
second, it made the led light up for that same amount of time. The lit led
would be facing a light sensitive diode (is that the name?), which would in
turn let the current pass through a wire rigged to a simple remote control
connected to the VCR. The act of pressing the button on the remove would
start the VCR recording (in PAUSE mode originally, now in REC mode), then
another pressing (or another signal from the computer would stop the
recording a few seconds later, effectively recording about 1/4 of a second
on the tape of a 3D image shown on the screen. Enough of those images would
then (apart from eventually burning the tape) make up a whole animation.

And it worked really well!

Philippe :)



----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: LED experiments


> >After having red all the scared comments about my LED
> >experiments, I think I'd better stop it immediately.
>
> Were you pouting when you wrote this <grin>.

Well, to be honest, I abused the scared comments as a pretext
to stop development. The truth is: I got a call from Microsoft.
They urged me not to violate a patent they are working on,
otherwise their lawyers will find a way to kick me out of
business. MS is working on a LED light connected to the USB bus.
I tried to be as friendly as possible at the phone so that the
guy at the other end relaxed and came out with some details:

The LED will house in a box similar to the new web cameras.
It will be powered by custom Lithium-Ion accus. You can buy
a charger separately. The power will last for about 2 hours,
which is more than sufficient taking into account that the main
accus to run the computer exhaust after 1 hour and you need no
light, if the computer isn't running any longer.

On the software side, MS already beta tests the 1.2MB LED.DLL
Everything works fine and they were able to cut down the needed
mouse clicks to activate the LED to 5, however switching it off
still needs 10 clicks, but could not be tested because the
computer often crashes before. At the moment, recovery from a
crash with LED light ON means a complete new installation of
Win98. But they will fix that until first release at Cebit 2000.

I asked him, if there will also be a palmtop solution of their
product. The answer was yes. They will come out with a PCMCIA
card (rated at 200mA), emulating the USB bus for WinCE.

Because USB has not yet been specified by the PCMCIA
association, MS will take the leadership and present the first
PC card specially designed for WinCE. That is, there will be
different cards for every of the used WinCE RISC processors,
allowing direct support of the RISC's instruction set.

Registered developpers can buy a visual c++ kit, allowing to
write the appropriate drivers for all brands of WinCE.

Well guys, if you want rock solid LED light, leave the 200LX
behind, save some money and go for this 'state of the art'
solution.

Stefan ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:13:59 +1100
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At 01:21 PM 24/03/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what a CRC error is?      When I bring up Pocket Quicken and
>enter one particular account, I get back a "data record CRC error occurred
>during function".      How do I fix the problem?
CRC is a redundency check I believe.  Means the file is damaged/changed
since it was written.  Chkdsk/scandisk should fix it but BACKUP before doing
anything in case of losing data in order to fix things.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:21:26 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I found at REI:

Name: Photon Micro-Light
Color: Yellow
Battery: CR2032
Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.
Company: L.R.I. P.O. Box 34 Blackly, Oregon 97412-0034
Patent pending.

I don't have the time to check their patent, but it might be interesting...

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:46:39 +1030
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              "Nehme, Claude" <claude.nehme@EDS.COM>
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I usually recharge alkaline batteries in a normal ni-cad charger, in fact I
have been doing it for years. I find that as long as the battery was not
completely flat, you can get about 2-3 reuses out of it.

Regards.

Claude.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philippe Lewis ÝSMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:49 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Recharging Alkaline batteries
>
> Has anyone tried recharging normal alkaline batteries using one of the
> special alkaline charger? Did you get a good multiple usage out of you
> alkaline batteries? What kind of usage after the initial (out of the
> package) charge?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 6:43 AM
> Subject: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries
>
>
> > Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
> > batteries at around US$7 per pair.
> >
> > The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried
> these
> > in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
> > seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is
> able
> > to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.
> >
> > thanks for your attention.
> >
> > Anand Rao
> > (Not connected with  Gold Peak Industries in any way ...)
> >
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> Hate to say it, but... RTFM.;¬>
>
Out of curiosity, what does RTFM.;¬> stand for?

Thanks for the answer.  I didn't realize that it slowed the switching.
I don't think I'll load it - or change it so the Appmgr doesn't load.
It sounds best the way it comes.

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I'm in need of graphing some data with a log chart.  I remember doing
this before with the HP Portable Plus, but I don't see the option under
the charting section of Lotus 1-2-3.  Have Log charts been dropped for
the Palmtop version?

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:45:27 -0800
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On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I found at REI:
> Name: Photon Micro-Light
> Color: Yellow
> Battery: CR2032
> Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.

Does that "124 hours of continuous use" mean the battery will die after
that period, or that the LED will no longer operate?  I would imagine the
battery, but you never know if these super high-brightness LEDs are
designed to use up all the hidden cesium fuel after 124 hours..  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:53:38 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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"news.hplx.net" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Anyone tried to download images from Olympus digital cameras to the HP-200LX
> as has been done for the Kodak DC-20?
>
> Since my Olympus does not provide a slot for flash cards, it would be a
> clever way of beeing able to take more than the standard 12 pictures!
>
> If anyone is interested in developing something for this, I would be glad to
> help!
>
> Regards,
> Vitor
>
> vma@esoterica.pt for direct contact

I use camedos and Photopc with my Olympus C 410 L (640 *480 30 pictures no
smartmediacard old model).

Works great with my Hp 700 Lx. I use the the "Mac" wire with the serialcable to
transfer pictures to the Hp from the camera. Max speed is 19200..Will be testing
it on a Hp 200 Lx maybe tomorrow..

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:52:11 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I have seen this.  It happens to me when I try to add too many .EXE
applications to the Appmanager.  I do a simple re-boot to "fix" it and don't
try to add any more "stuff".

Bye-the-way, have you been messing with removing the "unwanted" Icons from
Appmanager?  I did it a long time ago and that is when I started getting
"strange" stuff in my Appmanager screen.

Phil

>  Up till this past weekend the display above the F1 on the upper half of
> the
> 200LX showed the word "Help".    Now it displays numbers 2.51 or 2.46 or
> 2.32.
> This happens to all built in applications and SC apps.   When I open an
> application the display first shows Help and then it changes to numbers.
>
> Can someone explain what is happening here and how to correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:59:41 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:45 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED experiments
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:
>
> > Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I
> found at REI:
> > Name: Photon Micro-Light
> > Color: Yellow
> > Battery: CR2032
> > Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.
>
> Does that "124 hours of continuous use" mean the battery will
> die after
> that period, or that the LED will no longer operate?  I would
> imagine the
> battery, but you never know if these super high-brightness LEDs are
> designed to use up all the hidden cesium fuel after 124 hours..  <g>
>

I would guess that this night be the point at which the battery voltage
drops below the LED's forward drop ( about 1v maybe ) .

Jon

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:02:55 -0600
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This guy lives dangerously!  :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nehme, Claude ÝSMTP:claude.nehme@EDS.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:17 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Recharging Alkaline batteries
>
> I usually recharge alkaline batteries in a normal ni-cad charger, in fact
> I
> have been doing it for years. I find that as long as the battery was not
> completely flat, you can get about 2-3 reuses out of it.
>
> Regards.
>
> Claude.
>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:04:05 -0600
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Hi Gang,

I am looking into "Diet Compressor" which I  downloaded from SUPER.  The
documentation file is in Japenese ( AFAIK ) which dosen't help me much.

Does anybody on the list have a detailed manual in English  that they could
pass along ?


TIA,
Jon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:45 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED experiments
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:
>
> > Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I
> found at REI:
> > Name: Photon Micro-Light
> > Color: Yellow
> > Battery: CR2032
> > Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.
>
> Does that "124 hours of continuous use" mean the battery will
> die after
> that period, or that the LED will no longer operate?  I would
> imagine the
> battery, but you never know if these super high-brightness LEDs are
> designed to use up all the hidden cesium fuel after 124 hours..  <g>
>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:06:07 -0600
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You probably need a macro that takes the contents of the clipboard (whatever
you select and then press <Fn><COPY>) and pastes it to a file.  Then another
macro that does the reverse in the "new" palmtop.

Phil

> I would like to copy between the various 'Palmtops' of Super
> Software Carousel on the HP200Lx. I would also like to copy
> text from newsgroup e-mail to standard e-mail, but it appears
> that Pal Edit only copies and pastes in the same letter.
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
> Rian Maartens
>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:09:12 -0600
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I'm guessing here... Lotus Notes is a Windows based application?  If you can
get Lotus Notes to run under Windows 3.0, then you have a chance at it
working on the palmtop. (I assume you are using a x00LX based palmtop.)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth G. Pearce ÝSMTP:kpearce@KODAK.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 1:10 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      LX200-Notes
>
> From: Kenneth G. Pearce
>
> Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?
>
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Walk on the wild side !


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Drummond Ýmailto:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 5:03 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Recharging Alkaline batteries
>
>
> This guy lives dangerously!  :)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nehme, Claude ÝSMTP:claude.nehme@EDS.COM¨
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:17 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Recharging Alkaline batteries
> >
> > I usually recharge alkaline batteries in a normal ni-cad
> charger, in fact
> > I
> > have been doing it for years. I find that as long as the
> battery was not
> > completely flat, you can get about 2-3 reuses out of it.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Claude.
> >
>
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I think the original poster said he had a 32mb model, so copying to the flash
card and then to the PC might take more time and card storage than he'd want.

- Longden





"Dean L." <deanl@BIGFOOT.COM> on 03/24/99 02:05:01 PM

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The easy way I found was to XCOPY  my C:\  drive compleat to my
PCMCIA  card then copy the compleat card into my main PC computer
using a PC card reader/writer    PCD 10 model...
No Zipping or compressing at all..
this takes only 15 seconds to do...
How much faster or easer could it be...
Dean   W5GXL



On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:38:58 -0600, you wrote:

>I'm playing with my new Zip drive, and I'd like a better way to copy my
>disk from FLASH to the Zip.  Using FILER is *real* slow...  it seems much
>slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs that
>are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
>different disk drives?  Since I have the space, I'd like to avoid using
>PKZIP, and store the backup files uncompressed.

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There, see!

CR2032....same's our backup battery.

An unused resource just waiting to be tapped (and conveniently accessible).

Talk about walking on the wild side.   OTOH, anyone willing to drill and maim
their LX to put in a light should consider this. I mean, if the mfg thinks it
can power an LED for 124 hours, it's not likely to get sucked dry in an hour or
two of backlight use.

Personally, I'd be willing to change my CR2032 every two months in exchange for
a convenient light....versus just tossing the same battery every year or so
anyway.

Somebody should quantify how much risk there is (ie, how much continuous use via
LED before the battery is no longer effective as a backup), before discounting
it.

- Longden





Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> on 03/24/99 02:21:26 PM

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Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I found at REI:

Name: Photon Micro-Light
Color: Yellow
Battery: CR2032
Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.
Company: L.R.I. P.O. Box 34 Blackly, Oregon 97412-0034
Patent pending.

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> cheers... Russ       HP-16C (and I wish I still had my old HP-25)

It's not hard to find HP-25s on eBay. There's currently one at $28 with only
five hours to go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=79759039&tc=search

- Joe

"This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly.
 It should be thrown with great force." - Dorothy Parker

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>Does anyone know what a CRC error is?      When I bring up Pocket
Quicken and
>enter one particular account, I get back a "data record CRC error
occurred
>during function".      How do I fix the problem?
>>Thanks>Joe


It means Cyclic Redundancy Check and it normally means that the file
has become damaged, Nortons may be able to fix it. Otherwise it is a
lost file

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If you don't know, HP has released a new WinCE device (the 680).

I won't go into all the good/bad arguments about the device. There is an =
interesting accessory for the 680 though.

http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/product_info/680accessories/ex_keyboar=
d.html

An external keyboard. Looks very promising, and possibly adaptable to =
the 200lx. If anyone sees one, how about posting your impressions.

--Patrick

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<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3612.1700"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#a0a0a8>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you don't know, HP has released a new WinCE =
device (the=20
680).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I won't go into all the good/bad arguments about the =
device.=20
There is an interesting accessory for the 680 though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/product_info/680accessories/ex=
_keyboard.html">http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/product_info/680access=
ories/ex_keyboard.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>An external keyboard. Looks very promising, and =
possibly=20
adaptable to the 200lx. If anyone sees one, how about posting your=20
impressions.</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:01:58 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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There is no version of Notes that will run on the
HPLX.

However there can be some work arounds, what part
of notes are you needing to use on the palmtop?


Kenneth G. Pearce wrote:
>
> From: Kenneth G. Pearce
>
> Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?
>
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--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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On 24 Mar 99, at 13:49, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Has anyone tried recharging normal alkaline batteries using one of
the
> special alkaline charger? Did you get a good multiple usage out of
you
> alkaline batteries? What kind of usage after the initial (out of the
> package) charge?

I do this regularly. It works well if you avoid discharging that
battery significantly. I have recharged some dozens of times by
avoiding discharge below about 1.25V. They are prone to fail, though--
I have had them leak during and after charging. The only rechargable
alkaline cells I will use in my HP are the ones designed to be
recharged. I have not had any of these leak.

Best regards,   clyde
Clyde Best  (clyde@campbellsci.com)  KD7EOZ
Applications Engineer, Water Resources Group
Campbell Scientific, Inc.
815 W 1800 North, Logan, UT 84321-1784
Tel: 435-750-9576  Fax: 435-750-9596
http://www.campbellsci.com/  ftp://ftp.campbellsci.com/

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to resemble a nail." --Abraham H. Maslow

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:29:18 +0800
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I used version 5.

Regards
J H Chin

-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:32 AM
Subject: Norton Commander


>What version of Norton Commander are you guys using on your palmtops?
>I've had it recommended... I checked the Symantec site, and they have
>something that looks too new to be what I've read about here on the
>mailing list.  I've read folks talking about version 2, 3 and 4, yet
>they had advertised as brand-new a version 2.  Must be a different
>numbering system...
>
>Where does one get Norton Commander (one suitable for the palmtop)
>anyway?
>
>-Chris Lott
>
>--
>
>************************************************************************
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Vitor & Martin (and All)

03h30m02s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> "news.hplx.net" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone tried to download images from Olympus digital cameras to the =
HP-200LX
> > as has been done for the Kodak DC-20?
> >
> > Since my Olympus does not provide a slot for flash cards, it would be =
a
> > clever way of beeing able to take more than the standard 12 pictures!
> >
> > ...
> I use camedos and Photopc with my Olympus C 410 L (640 *480 30 pictures =
no
> smartmediacard old model).
>
> Works great with my Hp 700 Lx. I use the the "Mac" wire with the =
serialcable to
> transfer pictures to the Hp from the camera. Max speed is 19200..Will =
be testing
> it on a Hp 200 Lx maybe tomorrow..

     I use CAMEDOS with a 2x 200LX and my EPSON PhotoPC 600 (has 4MB
internal & a CF slot). I can transfer @ 38400 with no problems.

Here's the URL http://www.butaman.ne.jp:8000/~tsuruzoh/

Cheers,

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Vic Roberts wrote:

> I think most serial ports are designed to survive even if their
> outputs are shorted to ground

It is my understanding of the RS-232 spec that the device must
be able to tolerate any kind of short to ground or to any
other data line.  So, a -12 volt line can be connected to a
+12 volt line or either one to ground with no harm to either
device.

I certainly have taken advantage of this "feature" many times
in my adventures in serial communications over the years.


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I'd imagine it's the battery power, but my thumb is not strong enough to
verify the claim...

In any case, I can definitely use the 200LX with that light since it's
diffuse enough and bright enough.

Philippe :)

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From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: LED experiments


> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:
>
> > Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I found at REI:
> > Name: Photon Micro-Light
> > Color: Yellow
> > Battery: CR2032
> > Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.
>
> Does that "124 hours of continuous use" mean the battery will die after
> that period, or that the LED will no longer operate?  I would imagine the
> battery, but you never know if these super high-brightness LEDs are
> designed to use up all the hidden cesium fuel after 124 hours..  <g>
>
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yOn Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> I'd imagine it's the battery power, but my thumb is not strong enough to
> verify the claim...

How about a C-clamp for 124 hours?  <g>

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Hi Folks

I found an old copy of GnuPlot on a website that runs on the 200 LX.
If anyone would like a pointer, it is at www.ednmag.com. GnuPlot is a
GPL plotting program that plots and transforms data. So far, it looks
pretty useful.=20

Dave Bengtson

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A while back, someone mentioned that they had written some routines to
manilupate CSV files using Perl on the 200. I'd be interested in
seeing those, if you would submit them to the SUPER.=20

Thanks

Dave Bengtson

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Russel Brooks wrote:

> The explanation I remember reading is that the interface to the
> pcmcia card needs to be re-established after every power up.  Do
> you have a flash card in your LX?

Yes I do.  That explanation makes sense.  Thanks.



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> I have a 200LX ...  It
> does fine on batteries, but when I connect it to an AC adapter, the screen
> flickers.  If I leave it connected more than a few seconds, the C: drive
> usually gets trashed

Yes, there are certain power circuits that are for the
external power only.  It sounds like you have a real hardware
problem.   If it is under warranty, then call HP.  Otherwise
try Thaddeus Computing (www.thaddeus.com) or other third
parties that repair the 200Lx now.  You probably need a new
motherboard.


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David Bengtson wrote:

>A while back, someone mentioned that they had written some routines to
>manilupate CSV files using Perl on the 200. I'd be interested in
>seeing those, if you would submit them to the SUPER.=20

I think that was me. I crashed my hard disk shortly after I posted
that, and that file hadn't yet been backed up. However, I've since
reconstructed part of it which you're welcome to. It's not that big,
so I'll post it to the list (I hope no one minds). This script will
read in a CSV file such as created by Outlook or Excel, which is
different than what the GDBLOAD program expects. In particular, these
actions are taken:

Microsoft's CSV             Script's output
---------------             -------------------------

New lines in text are       Newlines replaced by "\n", so records
broken across lines         are all on one line

=46ields are enclosed in      All fields enclosed in quotes
quotes only if neccessary  =20

Embedded quotes appear      Replaced by "\q", which is nonstandard,
as double-quotes            but you can modify before writing if
                            you want.

To see what I mean, just try it. If you save the file as
"ParseCSV.pl", then you would run the script from the command prompt
like this:

C:\directory> perl parseCSV.pl infile.CSV > outfile.TXT

good luck,

Curtis Cameron

use strict;
my (@thisrecord,$oneline,$tmp);

open(INF,$ARGVÝ0¨);
while ($oneline =3D <INF>)
  {
  chomp($oneline);
  while (length($oneline) > 0)
    {
    if (substr($oneline,0,1) eq ",")=20
      {=20
      $oneline =3D substr($oneline,1);  # take the rest of that line.
      while (substr($oneline,0,1) eq ",")
        {
        $oneline =3D substr($oneline,1);
        push(@thisrecord,"");
        }
      }
     =20
    if (substr($oneline,0,1) eq '"')
      {  # if the first char is a quote
      $oneline =3D substr($oneline,1);
      $oneline =3D~ s/(Ý¬,¨)\"\"/$1\\q/g;  # substitute pairs of quotes
with \q
     =20
      # if there is no terminating quote, read more lines.
      while ( $oneline !~ m/\"/g )
        {
        if ($tmp =3D <INF>)
          {
          chomp($tmp);
          $tmp =3D~ s/(Ý¬,¨)\"\"/$1\\q/g;  # substitute pairs of quotes
with \q
          $oneline =3D $oneline . "\\n" . $tmp;
          }
        }
      push(@thisrecord, substr($oneline, 0, pos($oneline)-1 ));
      $oneline =3D substr($oneline, pos($oneline));
      }
    else
      {
      if ( $oneline =3D~ m/,/g )
        {
        push(@thisrecord, substr($oneline, 0, pos($oneline)-1));
        $oneline =3D substr($oneline, pos($oneline));
        } # close if block
      else
        {
        push(@thisrecord, $oneline);
        $oneline =3D "";
        } # close else block
      } #close else block
     =20
    } # close while block
  $tmp =3D join('","',@thisrecord);
  undef(@thisrecord);
  print "\"$tmp\"\n";
  } # close foreach block
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:46:03 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries
Comments: To: slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
MIME-version: 1.0
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Hi,

> Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
> batteries at around US$7 per pair.
>
> The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these
> in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
> seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is able
> to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.

I haven't tried _these_, but I'm running the palmtop on 1500mAh-
NiMHs from 'Ansmann' (found them at Segor Electronics a few month
ago) since - well - a few month and it works great!
I payed about 5 DM (=3 US$) for each.
The charging time of the palmtop can be increased by software
like ABC/LX or 'chargeit'.

GTX
daniel

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Germany
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:46:07 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> Concerning the pulse mode discussion, please consider: DOS
> cannot multitask. If pulse mode means, a software has to drive
> pins high and low at a certain frequence, that can only be done
> by the actual running program which would be a LED driver.
>
> But then you cannot use any other software, while the LED
> driver is running. Quite useless!

Oh, sure! I think the same happens when making a program
that sends some data to the serial port....
Wasn't a good idea from me.

But - maybe there is a little (SMD-)circuit pulsing
the LED's power?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:46:10 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: File Backup Recommendation?
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi,

> I'm playing with my new Zip drive, and I'd like a better way to copy my
> disk from FLASH to the Zip.  Using FILER is *real* slow...  it seems much
> slower than COPY and XCOPY.  Does anyone have any FILER-like programs that
> are helpful in transferring large groups of file/directories between
> different disk drives?  Since I have the space, I'd like to avoid using

Try Volkov Commander (available on SUPER)!
It's a Norton Commander clone and works great on the palmtop.
But I don't know about the copy speed..

GTX
daniel

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Germany
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:24:18 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Post/LX Address Lists
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> the help file and it says to make a file with an address
> on each separate line, and the put "File:" in to:.  It also says that
> there is no checking of the addresses - so I have a question.  In the
> file can I leave the peoples names and the addresses inside the <...>
> signs?

The person's name should NOT be inside the < >.  Only the
address goes there and the name goes in front, like this:

Stanley Dobrowski <stanley@carroll.com>

If you don't have a name, then you can leave off the < >, like
this:

stanley@carroll.com


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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:43:08 PST
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              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Hi Slim
I'm using them. Don't know much about them
but they seem to be working OK.

yor pal al..........................


>Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released
1500 mAH NiMH batteries at around US$7 per pair.
The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA.

self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop
is able to charge them.

>Anand Rao
>(Not connected with  Gold Peak Industries in any way ...)

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:03:58 -0500
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              Clark Gaylord <gaylord@GAYLORD.ASYNC.VT.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: GnuPlot on the 200LX
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Mar 1999 03:56:23 GMT
> From:    David Bengtson <dbengtson@POBOX.COM>
> Subject: GnuPlot on the 200LX
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I found an old copy of GnuPlot on a website that runs on the 200 LX.
> If anyone would like a pointer, it is at www.ednmag.com. GnuPlot is a
> GPL plotting program that plots and transforms data. So far, it looks
> pretty useful.
>
> Dave Bengtson

a) gnuplot is NOT GPL.  The "gnu" does not refer to the FSF, and it
   predates the latter.
b) I would like to have a copy of this on my ftp server.  Please
   upload it to ftp.gnuplot.vt.edu/incoming (and send me an e-mail
   when you do so I can move it to an appropriate location; I seldom
   check /incoming).  I think we'll put it in /pub/hplx (or is it
   hp95lx? I forget) rather than /pub/gnuplot, since the latter is
   a mirror of another gnuplot site.

Thanks.
Clark

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:52:31 -0500
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From: Kenneth G. Pearce

I use both mail and calendaring. being able to read my mail would be nice
importing my calnder into palmtop calnder would be GREAT!




Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET> on 03/24/99 07:01:58 PM

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Subject:  Re: LX200-Notes




There is no version of Notes that will run on the
HPLX.

However there can be some work arounds, what part
of notes are you needing to use on the palmtop?


Kenneth G. Pearce wrote:
>
> From: Kenneth G. Pearce
>
> Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?
>
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:00:05 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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From:         Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries
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I've been using some 1500 mAH NiMH cells purchased from www.digi-key.com. They
are Panasonic industrial generics and have a flat "+" end rather than a button.
The button presents no problem in the HP200LX.

I charge them at 140mA for 16 hours in an external charger. The charge rate is
timed carefully to prevent overcharging. Panasonic does not recommend trickel
charging but have seen other sources of NiMH that say it is O.K. I do not used
the internal charger just to prevent an additional mechanism for failure in the
HP200LX.

Had been using Radio Shack high capacity NiCads lasting a week per charge.
These run about three weeks per charge.

Bob Meyer
Elk Mountain WY

slim1005 wrote:

> Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
> batteries at around US$7 per pair.
>
> The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these
> in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
> seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is able
> to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.
>
> thanks for your attention.
>
> Anand Rao
> (Not connected with  Gold Peak Industries in any way ...)
>
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:18:36 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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From:         Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I am send you all that I have on "diet" in a separate email.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

"Carson, Jon A." wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> I am looking into "Diet Compressor" which I  downloaded from SUPER.  The
> documentation file is in Japenese ( AFAIK ) which dosen't help me much.
>
> Does anybody on the list have a detailed manual in English  that they could
> pass along ?
>
> TIA,
> Jon
> -----------------------------------------------
> jacarson@addcoinc.com
>                       ___..---'~~~`---..___
>                   .-=========================-
>   _______________/ :.::..-~--..___..---~~~'
>  (___________(_||_)____/
>   /____/___:..::.:::. /      NCC-1701 D
>            \_________/        "Engage"
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:45 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: LED experiments
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I
> > found at REI:
> > > Name: Photon Micro-Light
> > > Color: Yellow
> > > Battery: CR2032
> > > Shelf life: 5 years or 124 hours of continuous use.
> >
> > Does that "124 hours of continuous use" mean the battery will
> > die after
> > that period, or that the LED will no longer operate?  I would
> > imagine the
> > battery, but you never know if these super high-brightness LEDs are
> > designed to use up all the hidden cesium fuel after 124 hours..  <g>
> >
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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As I have to use Lotus Notes for work, I would love any kind of bridge to my
200LX. I had hoped Lotus would allow for some sort of exchange between Notes and
(the palmtop's) cc:Mail, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

How about the ability to download and read Notes mail on the palmtop?
How about the ability to exchange entries between Notes Calendar and ApptBk?

Am I dreaming?

Bruce in Toronto

> There is no version of Notes that will run on the
> HPLX.
>
> However there can be some work arounds, what part
> of notes are you needing to use on the palmtop?
>
> Kenneth G. Pearce wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:35:52 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Does anynone know of mailing lists like HPLX or other info on the HP
Omnibook? I recently purchased one as a backup for my HP200LX.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:51:36 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I would hazard that it depends on whether Notes has any sort of
Ascii (CSV or other) import/export facility.

When programs do, then it's usually relatively straightforward
to build an interface for the 200 with PERL. I keep my appointment
book on the 200 sync'd with my desktop/laptop worlds (Outlook, Ecco,
Palm + some software of my own) that way.

When programs don't (have an Ascii import/export), I don't use them as
I know that eventually I will end up moving to something else, and I
don't want to lose my `archive' at that time.

Bruce Martin wrote:
>
> As I have to use Lotus Notes for work, I would love any kind of bridge to my
> 200LX. I had hoped Lotus would allow for some sort of exchange between Notes and
> (the palmtop's) cc:Mail, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>
> How about the ability to download and read Notes mail on the palmtop?
> How about the ability to exchange entries between Notes Calendar and ApptBk?
>
> Am I dreaming?
>
> Bruce in Toronto
>
> > There is no version of Notes that will run on the
> > HPLX.
> >
> > However there can be some work arounds, what part
> > of notes are you needing to use on the palmtop?
> >
> > Kenneth G. Pearce wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?
>
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:01:09 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
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Try looking at the Omnibook FAQ website at

http://www.eberl.com/omnibook/omnibook.faq

It has information not only on the machines, but on the mailing list (which
doesn't quite compare in content nor volume to this one).

The traffic on their list seems mostly oriented towards the older models
(300-530), and hardly anything at all on the 600-800, tho there are definitely a
few people on that list who are knowledgable and helpful on many models.

- Longden





Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> on 03/25/99 06:35:52 AM

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Subject:  Omnibook




Does anynone know of mailing lists like HPLX or other info on the HP
Omnibook? I recently purchased one as a backup for my HP200LX.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:27:20 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Ken,

I don't know how much help these will be.  Here is
the url for the free version of
"EasySync for Lotus Organizer 4.1 & 97GS & Lotus
Notes - Synchronization
 for the PalmPilot, Palm III and IBM WorkPad"

http://www.lotus.com/products/organizer5.nsf/downloads/798522485E91D9828525669F005028B8

By itself no good but here is the url for the free
HP200LX to Lotus Organizer 2.1 exchange link
utility.

One really nice thing about it is you can import
and export to local files.
So it is usefull even if you use a pcmcia card
instead of the cable to transfer files.

ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/zq6t00a.exe


You might be able to get a workable hack running.



About mail;  With Version 3 of Lotus Notes I had
the ability to save copies of messages
in the old CCMail Archive format which is readable
by the ccmail on the 200lx.
Only usefull if you want copies of stuff.  I had a
CCMail Post Office however
so it may have a tool that doesn't work by itself.
All I ever did was tell it to save
in that format, and look at a couple of tests on
the
HP200LX.

Kenneth G. Pearce wrote:
>
> From: Kenneth G. Pearce
>
> I use both mail and calendaring. being able to read my mail would be nice
> importing my calnder into palmtop calnder would be GREAT!
>
> Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET> on 03/24/99 07:01:58 PM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Please
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>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: Kenneth G. Pearce/115793/EKC)
> Subject:  Re: LX200-Notes
>
> There is no version of Notes that will run on the
> HPLX.
>
> However there can be some work arounds, what part
> of notes are you needing to use on the palmtop?
>
> Kenneth G. Pearce wrote:
> >
> > From: Kenneth G. Pearce
> >
> > Does anyone know of a program that allows lotus notes on the palmtop?
> >
> > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
> --
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> Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
> HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
> pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:59:56 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> There, see!
>
> CR2032....same's our backup battery.
>
> An unused resource just waiting to be tapped (and conveniently accessible).
>
> Talk about walking on the wild side.   OTOH, anyone willing to drill and maim
> their LX to put in a light should consider this. I mean, if the mfg thinks it
> can power an LED for 124 hours, it's not likely to get sucked dry in an hour or
> two of backlight use.

I can see no advantages in using the CR2032. The main batteries
have 3V, too, and they are cheaper / rechargable and probably
better accessable than the backup battery.
And it's less dangerous to use the mains.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:59:52 GMT
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Hi

if you _must_ reload alklines, please don't ddo it in your
poor palmtop!!!

They could explode while charging...

GTX
daniel

> I usually recharge alkaline batteries in a normal ni-cad charger, in fact I
> have been doing it for years. I find that as long as the battery was not
> completely flat, you can get about 2-3 reuses out of it.


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Hi,

> In any case, I can definitely use the 200LX with that light since it's
> diffuse enough and bright enough.

That's interesting!
How is the light diffused? Is it such a small plastic
piece with little 'riffles' on it?

Maybe we all could use this device, take out the CR2032
and power it via a strong wire (holding the device in place
above the screen).
This wire could be attached to the serial port.

How big is this light?

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:59:45 GMT
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Hi,

sounds like the palmtop is showing you its battery voltage there.
Do you have any charging or voltage montoring software installed?

GTX
daniel

>  Up till this past weekend the display above the F1 on the upper half of the
> 200LX showed the word "Help".    Now it displays numbers 2.51 or 2.46 or 2.32.
> This happens to all built in applications and SC apps.   When I open an
> application the display first shows Help and then it changes to numbers.
>
> Can someone explain what is happening here and how to correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:16:36 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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"R. Christopher Lott" wrote:

> What version of Norton Commander are you guys using on your palmtops?
> I've had it recommended... I checked the Symantec site, and they have
> something that looks too new to be what I've read about here on the
> mailing list.  I've read folks talking about version 2, 3 and 4, yet
> they had advertised as brand-new a version 2.  Must be a different
> numbering system...
>
> Where does one get Norton Commander (one suitable for the palmtop)
> anyway?
>

Sorry to not answer your question, but I use Volkon Commander which I
found
on the Super site. It works great..It takes a minimum of place too..

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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To: Extended Systems

Folks,

I have looked over your specs on "Harmony Mobile
Synchronization"
http://www.extendedsystems.com/prodinfo/specifications/enterprise.html
I don't see my palmtop listed. It is the HP200LX.
So my question is: Are there plans to expand your
product to work with the HP200LX?

If the answer is "not at this time", how much
interest would you need to consider adding support
for the HP200LX to your product?

Puma has stoped developing for the HP200LX so
their Intellisync only works with older apps
(Schedule+ 7.0,7.0a, Act 2.0, Ecco 3.03, Lotus
Organizer 2.1, Sidekick 95, 1.0 & 2.0 Windows,
Day-Timer Organizer 2.0,2.1, Now up to Date 1.5)

The free tool from IBM only supports Organizer 2.1
but will work with files on on a disk as well as
through a serial cable.
(ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/zq6t00a.exe)

The free tool from HP only supports schedule+
(http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/setup.exe.html)

Some palmtopers have set up an Outlook Programming
Fund to try and get development of a
synchronization utility to work with MS Outlook.
(http://www.palmtop.net)




--
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:34:52 -0800
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Extended Systems's Harmony may be the answer to
our Outlook & Lotus Notes problems.

They have a Software Developer's kit.  Once
someone developed the HP-dos-LX end of things it
would be able to plug into their product and as
newer tools (Outlook 2000, etc) came out the new
versions of Hamony would still be able to work
with our beloved palmtops.

http://www.extendedsystems.com/products/enterprise/devtools.html

"Services are available to implement any custom
synchronization or connectivity solution based on
the Enterprise Harmony platform."

"The Harmony Sync Engine is implemented as a dual
interface to enable developers to access it using
the automation layer from any development
language (C++, Java, Visual Basic, etc.) or the
custom interface from Visual C++."
--
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:01:27 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Al Kind wrote:

> Vitor & Martin (and All)
>
> 03h30m02s ago ...
> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > "news.hplx.net" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Anyone tried to download images from Olympus digital cameras to the HP-200LX
> > > as has been done for the Kodak DC-20?
> > >
> > > Since my Olympus does not provide a slot for flash cards, it would be a
> > > clever way of beeing able to take more than the standard 12 pictures!
> > >
> > > ...
> > I use camedos and Photopc with my Olympus C 410 L (640 *480 30 pictures no
> > smartmediacard old model).
> >
> > Works great with my Hp 700 Lx. I use the the "Mac" wire with the serialcable to
> > transfer pictures to the Hp from the camera. Max speed is 19200..Will be testing
> > it on a Hp 200 Lx maybe tomorrow..
>
>      I use CAMEDOS with a 2x 200LX and my EPSON PhotoPC 600 (has 4MB
> internal & a CF slot). I can transfer @ 38400 with no problems.
>
> Here's the URL http://www.butaman.ne.jp:8000/~tsuruzoh/
>
> Cheers,

I will receive my Hp 200 lx tomorrow. I will have it upgraded to a doublespeed and
maybe 32mb if I can find a old lady to mug...;-)

Is it because you have doublespeed that you can run it at 38400? I got very unstable
transfer with higher than 19200 on a Hp 700 Lx. I think that I tested this on photopc
and camedos with the same result.

I think Photopc is the best because you can use command line arguments to dowload
pictures into a directory and delete pictures from the camera too in one "go" without
any pushing of the keys.

Why do you bother to transfer via serial when you can put the cf into the Hp 200. I
guess its the pictures on the internal which you copy this way? Am I right?

(And sorry if you got two mails regarding the sign off mail I sent you..will not
happen again.,.had some problems with netscape on mu desktop computer..)

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Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:44:48 -0800
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: The 200LX is Everywhere!
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On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Robert Hocking wrote:

> I happen to work in engineering at the G.M. Truck Group.

Way cool!  Just so ya know... I'm a HUGE GM fan.  <g>  I accept no
substitutes.

> Basically it is the same kind of stuff a women carries is her purse,
> along with the additional stuff that a gadget freak would want to have
> with them at all times.  How do you and others carry their LX's, so
> that it is with them at all times?  I find this method not only lets
> me carry a mini-office around with me, but it also offers a fair
> degree of protection for the little device that I depend on so heavily
> to keep me organized.

I agree.  I've got a black leather organizer that was originally designed
to carry a 95LX and an Ericsson "brick" radio modem.  I've since dispensed
with the "brick", and use the case to carry my 200LX, AC adapter,
cellphone modem interface cable, digital camera (PDR-2), modem, Accton
Ethernet Card, spare batteries, checkbook, memory cards, pen, business
cards, and a Leatherman Micra for those "emergency repairs".  This case is
about 8"x9", and looks like a dayrunner, too... I can go anywhere and do
almost anything.

Bill

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:49:56 -0600
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The following is posted as a favor to another List member...

----Start the good stuff here----

Gerhard Behrens Ýabouseif@compuserve.com¨asked me to post:

Joe's complaint to read numbers like "2.31" or similiar
above the F1-Key on the screen could have a very innocuous
explanation. The battery charging program ABX/LX from D&A
soft does exactly this: It replaces the "Help" with the the
present voltage of the main (rechargeable) batteries and
Joe's figures do really look like changing voltage.

As I have limited my contact to this list to reading only I
cannot reply to Joe myself. Would you do this instead and
ask him if he recently acquired ABX}LX??

Gerhard

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:17:06 -0600
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Ok, I'll bite...

My 200 rides my back pocket, jeans, Lee, boot-cut. (I live in Texas for
Christ's sake!)

My "purse" (gawd, I can't believe I said that!) is a "TRW" equipment bag
(part# 410-213-1) which I have found a ready supply of at Colonel Booby's
(an Army/Navy supply, located on "The Strand" in Galveston Texas).  They
cost about $7US.  These bags are made of ballistic nylon and are gray in
color, dimensions are 11-3/4" x 5-1/4" x 7" and it opens from the top, with
a Velcro closure.  The carrying handle(s) are attached to the front and back
and are constructed of a material similar to seat-belt webbing, although
coarser in construction.  The inside fabric is a finer nylon, lots like a
windbreaker.  There is Velcro sewn into the end panels (inside) for
attachment of an inner divider, composed of closed cell foam (black color).
The inside nylon "walls" are separated from the outside by additional panels
(approx. 3/8" thick) of closed cell foam.  The case behaves like an ice
chest in that the "trapped" foam provides a thermal barrier of sorts, to
sudden temperature changes (no "dew" formation on the contents).

I carry my HP charger, two spare Energizer Lithium's, a phone cable (for the
EXP), an EXP Thinfax PC card (inside a waterproof case found at the dive
shop), a Sony tape recorder, an inexpensive 35mm camera, sun glasses, check
book, Gameboy Color, and a cell phone.  There is "left over" room for one or
two 3.5inch floppies, the days mail and pens, pencils, two rolls of film,
and lint.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:47:30 -0600
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Subject:      Re: File Backup Recommendation?
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>

Earlier I'd said that the DoubleSlot didn't work w/ many X2 (doublespeeded)
LX's .... I didn't buy one; and so I don't know for sure; BUT, there's a
potential patch avail. on S.U.P.E.R. Ý http://www.palmtop.net/ ¨

------------------------
Description:

Doubleslot Doublespeed Patch (2 K) added 01/05/99   (Driver)
Version Test2 by Tetsushi Yamamoto (Digiyama)

DS_PAT applies a patch to the driver for the Accurite Technologies
Doubleslot dual PCMCIA adapter so it will work with double-speed machines.
This is considered a test version so please use with caution and back up
your data first. Freeware.
------------------------

Hope this helps anyone considering it....

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:17:38 -0600
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>
> Earlier I'd said that the DoubleSlot didn't work w/ many X2 (doublespeeded)
> LX's .... I didn't buy one; and so I don't know for sure; BUT, there's a
> potential patch avail. on S.U.P.E.R. Ý http://www.palmtop.net/ ¨

I've posted about this before... If anyone knows anymore details about this
patch, please let me know.  There isn't any documentation on using the
patch, and it wasn't clear to me how to utilize it.  I haven't used it,
and to my knowledge my Double Slot adaptor is working great on my 2X
machine.  I've heard that I may be an exception.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:52:19 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hi Steve,

See page 25 "What's New" in your Software Carousel menu for an
explanation of SC 7 changes.

<<I recently upgraded to Software Carousel 7 - actuallly to The Super
version.  With the older version I would change sessions and I would
see a message that said I was going to session 'x' and then would have
a 'loader bar' slide to show the progress of the load.  It was done
very quickly, and I could just barely see the number because I knew
where to look.  This new version doesn't do that - or I have something
set wrong.  Is there a setting I can change to get this back?>>

Use the DASHES.EXE - see manual.  It actually is faster the way we
implemented it.

<<Also, before, when I would push a grey/green key, it would go directly
to that open application.  Now it first opens the Application Manager
in the session, then it opens the application.  This might have been
done to stop the 'garbled' fonts from before when we would change
sessions.  Is there a way to change this, and is it advisable?>>

See FIX_SCR in the manual to change it back to how it was.

- Hal

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:34:11 -0600
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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Does anyone know Lambert Klein?

I have found that reformatting text files makes them easier to read on
the palmtop and easier for makedoc processing.  One utility I use quite
regularly is called Sleek. I just found another utility by the same
author that is even better - WordSmart.

Of course, now that I'd like to register, I can't.  All of the author's
email addresses are defunct.

Thanks,

Terry Owen
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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:12:27 -0600
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Is there some reason that I can't run sysmgr once I load the network
drivers for my accton ethernet card?

-Chris Lott

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Could I ask one of you MS Word users to email me a copy of the
WORD_RTF.EXE file that's supposed to do conversions to/from RTF?
Alternatively, is it posted somewhere on the net? I searched through
ftp.microsoft.com, and I couldn't find it.
I just acquired a legal copy of MS Word for DOS 4.0 so I could use the sa=
me
document format on both my desktop and my palmtop. That was the theory. B=
ut I
can't find WORD_RTF.EXE anywhere on the floppies, and it wasn't installed=

anywhere.
I (and the other readers of this list) would appreciate it if you could r=
eply
privately to kakima@usa.net. Please, DO NOT post any binaries to the list=
=2E
Thank in advance.
Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

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> I've measured 7mA with an orange LED specified > with 20mA

This discussion has sparked my interest.  I went to Radio
Shack last night and picked up three LED's to test.  A green
wide angle 5mcd at 2 ma, Red 800 mcd at 20 ma, and a large
orange wide angle one at 12000 mcd and 30 ma.

Each one of them ran directly off of the serial port just fine
drawing about 12-13 ma with a voltage drop across the LED
about between 1.8 to 2.1 volts.  The brightness was nice for
each one, but still not enough to light up the whole screen at
once.  The green color LED seemed to get along with the screen
color the best.   The red LED seemed to fight with the LCD and
gave me poor contrast.

I also tried the green LED's with two in parallel and two in
series and in each case, each LED was a little dimmer than
just one, but both together was overall brighter than one and
made for a wider angle display of light.  And the two together
still drew only about 12-13 ma.

Since the RS-232 output seems to be current limiting by
reducing the output voltage, putting the LED's in series might
work OK because the current will still be 12-13 ma, but will
allow the port to put out about 4 volts to provide more power
overall but still limit the current.

I think I will make a little connector for my serial cable
with two of the green LED's in it as an impromptu flashlight
for use in a pinch.


Stan

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can't find the original msg, so excuse for jumping in.

> > > Anyone tried to download images from Olympus digital cameras to
the HP-200LX
> > > as has been done for the Kodak DC-20?
> > > ...
> > I use camedos and Photopc with my Olympus C 410 L (640 *480 ) 30
pictures no
> > smartmediacard old model).
> >
What is camedos? Sounds like an Olympus supplied prgr for their
Camedia cameras under DOS.
I asked Olympus for a DOS prgr, but never got an answer.

Someone on the list (people near the authors, excuse me for not
remembering exactly right now) guided me to

http://www.metaflow.com/lightner/bruce/photopc/

I've checked the photopc DOS prgr on my 200LX - it works with newer
and I think also with older Olympus models.

Also try http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw

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re:
...shareware...
<snip>
>Of course, now that I'd like to register, I can't.  All of the author's
>email addresses are defunct.

You may try "The Association for Shareware Professionals" to see if they
have contact info for him Ýhe may not've been a member; but, hey, it's a
start ... PLUS a member there, just might know him or the shareware you're
talking about *OR* have something better for you¨.

Ý http://www.asp-shareware.org/ ¨

BTW: www.asp.org; my first try, when I started looking, is, the "American
Society of Primatologists"!! :-D               Amazing, what you think you
remember!!

--tim

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> Ok, I'll bite...
>
> My 200 rides my back pocket, jeans, Lee, boot-cut. (I live in Texas for
> Christ's sake!)
>
> My "purse" (gawd, I can't believe I said that!) is a "TRW" equipment bag

Well, that admission should end the living in Texas part! (g)

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> > I've measured 7mA with an orange LED specified > with 20mA
>
> This discussion has sparked my interest.  I went to Radio
> Shack last night and picked up three LED's to test.  A green
> wide angle 5mcd at 2 ma, Red 800 mcd at 20 ma, and a large
> orange wide angle one at 12000 mcd and 30 ma.
>
> Each one of them ran directly off of the serial port just fine
> drawing about 12-13 ma with a voltage drop across the LED
> about between 1.8 to 2.1 volts.  The brightness was nice for
> each one, but still not enough to light up the whole screen at
> once.  The green color LED seemed to get along with the screen
> color the best.   The red LED seemed to fight with the LCD and
> gave me poor contrast.
>
> I also tried the green LED's with two in parallel and two in
> series and in each case, each LED was a little dimmer than
> just one, but both together was overall brighter than one and
> made for a wider angle display of light.  And the two together
> still drew only about 12-13 ma.
>
> Since the RS-232 output seems to be current limiting by
> reducing the output voltage, putting the LED's in series might
> work OK because the current will still be 12-13 ma, but will
> allow the port to put out about 4 volts to provide more power
> overall but still limit the current.
>
> I think I will make a little connector for my serial cable
> with two of the green LED's in it as an impromptu flashlight
> for use in a pinch.
>
> Stan
>
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Two greens joined together both angled away from each other Ý30-45
degrees¨ overhanging the centre to cover the screen.
Interesting that green is the best colour!
For those who don't want to use the serial port how about a little
voltage inverter chip ÝMAXXIM EXAR Linear National¨ to raise the battery
voltage to say 6V or so.
These chips are compact and use minimal components and are I think about
85% efficient - low milliamp voltage conversions - possibly ideally
suited to the low current draw of these LEDs.
Possibly pack the 2 LEDs and the voltage converter neatly in some epoxy
as a single unit to overhang the lid with just the two wires going down
to a slot in the battery cover.

Duncan

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Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in the
clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)?  I ahve
one of these and it goes through a set of batteries fairly quickly.
Doesn't seem like it would take much expertise to adapt these (even I could
do it).  Alternatively, can the "gooseneck" and lens be purchased somewhere
separately for use with the serial port (or cannabilized from one of the
lights)?

At 10:16 PM 3/26/99 +1200, you wrote:
>Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>>
>> This discussion has sparked my interest.  I went to Radio
>> Shack last night and picked up three LED's to test.  A green
>> wide angle 5mcd at 2 ma, Red 800 mcd at 20 ma, and a large
>> orange wide angle one at 12000 mcd and 30 ma.
>
>Two greens joined together both angled away from each other Ý30-45
>degrees¨ overhanging the centre to cover the screen.
>Interesting that green is the best colour!
>For those who don't want to use the serial port how about a little
>voltage inverter chip ÝMAXXIM EXAR Linear National¨ to raise the battery
>voltage to say 6V or so.
>These chips are compact and use minimal components and are I think about
>85% efficient - low milliamp voltage conversions - possibly ideally
>suited to the low current draw of these LEDs.
>Possibly pack the 2 LEDs and the voltage converter neatly in some epoxy
>as a single unit to overhang the lid with just the two wires going down
>to a slot in the battery cover.
>
>Duncan
>

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:51:05 +0100
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Vempire wrote:

> Hi again!
>
> Thanks to everyone following up on my original post.
>
> I guess I should have looked first before asking for programs like Camedos
> or Photopc (I am checking them right now)... It's good to know this
> newsgroup is alive and people are helping, again thanks.
>
> If anyone is wondering, why on hell I want a DOS program for my HP-200LX to
> download pictures from my Olympus camera: it's because it was one of the
> first, a Olympus C-400 (in USA I belive it was sold as a Olympus C-200). It
> has memory for only 12 HiRes or 30 LoRes pictures and does not support any
> kind of Flashcards.
>
> Best regards,
> Vitor

I understand your problem. I have a C410 which got room for 30 pictures in high
and 120 in low. I think it got 3 mb internal memory. When I am on the road I
can dowload pictures to my Hp 700 (or 200 get it tomorrow...)  The Olympus
takes good pictures!

Before I bought the Hp 700 I was looking around for a way to store more
pictures. My choice was to either change camera or buy a Hp 700 Lx. I am glad
that I bought the Hp 700 Lx. I love it to death.

I hope that the Camcontrol software gets finished soon. I have waited for a
long time. Does anyone know when it will be finished? I have checked their
website regulary, but it seems like their is no progress. I don't remeber the
link but it was something with Tambaware...does anybody have any info on them.
Tried to mail the author but with no luck..

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:21:11 -0500
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Hi All:

     Has anyone translated the documentation from the EVA250.zip file
into English?

Alternatively,does anyone know how to make the program play the .eva
file once, then stop?

TIA & Cheers,

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> >
> > Earlier I'd said that the DoubleSlot didn't work w/ many X2 (doublespe=
eded)
> > LX's .... I didn't buy one; and so I don't know for sure; BUT, =
there's a
> > potential patch avail. on S.U.P.E.R. Ý http://www.palmtop.net/ ¨
>
> I've posted about this before... If anyone knows anymore details about =
this
> patch, please let me know.  There isn't any documentation on using the
> patch, and it wasn't clear to me how to utilize it.  I haven't used it,
> and to my knowledge my Double Slot adaptor is working great on my 2X
> machine.  I've heard that I may be an exception.

The driver that comes with the DoubleSlot should contain the changes
for a speed upgraded palmtop.  I bought one and it worked fine.  I
can't imagine why it wouldn't work for some machines as it should be an
all or nothing type of issue.  I only know of a few folks at this time
with problems, and most were fixed with a newer driver from Accurite.

I might take a look at the patch to see what it is changing if the
problem is a significant one.

Cheers,
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Hi Martin & All:

31m53s ago ...
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> ...
> I hope that the Camcontrol software gets finished soon. I have waited =
for a
> long time. Does anyone know when it will be finished? I have checked =
their
> website regulary, but it seems like their is no progress. I don't =
remeber the
> link but it was something with Tambaware...does anybody have any info =
on them.
> Tried to mail the author but with no luck..
> ...

     What is CamControl?

Cheers,

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This list works! (As if we didn't already know that.)

Many thanks to David Lawrence for promptly sending me the file I
needed. The rest of you can ignore my request. Now, I'm going to
go hide in a corner and (re)learn how to use MS Word for DOS.

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:41:59 -0600
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Just want to report that I have boot commander working.  It didn't give
me any problems, and was easy to setup and use.  I have learned that it
is no longer supported by V Communications (the author), but it is still
sold under a licensing arrangement through Mix Software (the folks who
give us the Power C compiler).  See www.mixsoftware.com.  I don't have
any financial interest in the Mix folks - just a satisfied customer.

You run a .SYS driver in your CONFIG.SYS file, and through some creative
REM statements, identify various configurations that you want available.
You are prompted after their .SYS driver processes your CONFIG.SYS, and
are presented with a menu to chose selections from.  You can set timeouts
and defaults selections.

Once control passes to AUTOEXEC, they provide a program to extract the
name of your selection which is placed in an environmental variable, for
use in your AUTOEXEC file to control loading various TSR and drivers.

I'm pretty satisfied, and would recommend it.  The only slight downside
is that the driver seems to use some colors, which make it less than
perfectly readable.  But I can see it without much problem, and it still
has some reasonable contrast.

-Chris Lott


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Hi Folks, this is my first append to this great list, so forgive me if I
screw up.
I keep reading about 'DoubleSlot'. I gather from the conversations that
it's a
device for turning one PCMCIA slot into two.  My question is, where can one
be purchased?  I can't find them for sale in any of the net stores.

TIA, Roger Whitmarsh, in stunning New Zealand

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Paul,

 > Do you get a file listing? Are you running under Sys Manager?

No need to run under system manager with PE and Pick to get
the file listing! That's the beauty of PAL - it ports the
GUI into non System Manager Environment.

 > I have a similar choose line so it should work if you have enough
 > memory left to run Pick. Try terminating everything and running in Dos
 > to verify memory is not a problem.

You are right about memory! PE _and_ pick occupy quite a
bit of it.

Also, PE.CFG must specify the PICK in it Chooser parameter
like so:

; set this to the program that should be started to pick a file
Chooser=c:\utils\pick.exe

In the case above, my PICK.EXE sits in C:\utils\.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> > >
> > > Earlier I'd said that the DoubleSlot didn't work w/ many X2 (doublespe
> eded)

> The driver that comes with the DoubleSlot should contain the changes
> for a speed upgraded palmtop.  I bought one and it worked fine.  I
> can't imagine why it wouldn't work for some machines as it should be an
> all or nothing type of issue.  I only know of a few folks at this time
> with problems, and most were fixed with a newer driver from Accurite.

Well, then by the same token, can you explain why some HP's don't need
the "screen fix" for double speed and can be read clearly and others
need the screen fix or show double image blur?

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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, F. Kaufman wrote:

> Well, then by the same token, can you explain why some HP's don't need
> the "screen fix" for double speed and can be read clearly and others
> need the screen fix or show double image blur?

Interestingly, it seems to me that the legibility of the screen is a
function of the screen itself, not the motherboard.  If I swap screens in
the same 200LX, one could be completely bizarre without the driver, and
the other fine.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:56:33 -0600
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Check out the Nighthawk laser light at:

http://www.edgeco.com/cgi-bin/catalog/T2-SET?BYnmysCp;;48

They have some handheld micro LED lights also.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:58:46 -0600
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> device for turning one PCMCIA slot into two.  My question is, where can one
> be purchased?  I can't find them for sale in any of the net stores.

From their company website, http://www.accurite.com

-Chris Lott

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Please remove me from this news group.
I have purchased a Palm 5, and have never had to look back.
BTW, it's amazing.

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> Interestingly, it seems to me that the legibility of the screen is a
> function of the screen itself, not the motherboard.  If I swap screens in
> the same 200LX, one could be completely bizarre without the driver, and
> the other fine.

I see a new business opportunity.... screen upgrades?!?!?!?

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:12:49 -0600
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>> Well, then by the same token, can you explain why some HP's don't need
>> the "screen fix" for double speed and can be read clearly and others
>> need the screen fix or show double image blur?
>
>Interestingly, it seems to me that the legibility of the screen is a
>function of the screen itself, not the motherboard.  If I swap screens in
>the same 200LX, one could be completely bizarre without the driver, and
>the other fine.

Basically it has to do without how fast the screen refreshes from the DRAM
screen buffer of the palmtop.  That is why it is screen related.  If the
refresh rate is slightly slower on some screens and the DRAM can handle a
slightly faster access rate then the 2 can talk and look clean otherwise it
looks like garbage.

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Has anyone tried the utility and procedures that I posted at
http://www.pcdevel.com for Outlook to HP conversion?  I'm just curious if it
is working as I don't use Outlook for appointments, so I'm not a good one to
test it.

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Okay, I've now got documents going in and coming out of MS Word.

However, when I try running Word under System Manager, if I've
run Filer earlier in the session, Word hangs shortly after
startup. Pressing any key just beeps. That includes the blue app
keys. The only way out is to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and reboot.

I'm running Word 4.0 on a stock 2M 200LX. Word is on a flash card.
I've booted up clean, with empty autoexec.bat and config.sys.
I've used CloseFlr to close Filer instead of just putting it to
sleep. I've turned off the com ports.

I don't have a newer version of Word. I don't have Software
Carousel.

Anybody else seen similar problems?
Anybody have any ideas?

TIA
Kiyoshi Akima
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> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone seen the daVinci PDA?
>
> I just saw it in a magazine, and it has an optional folding palm sized
> keyboard.  This may be a GREAT replacement for the old Newton keyboard.
>

If that little fold up keyboard is a GREAT replacement for the actual
200LX keyboard, I was wondering how effective is the 200LX
keyboard anyway.

Is there any WPM program written for it, to count your words per
minute typing in a sentence or paragraph?

Can anyone tell me their average WPM typing, for example:

"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs."

Also, to compare, see how you do on your PC desktop full-size
keyboard.

And thank you.

> The magazine is online at www.BPR.net.au  and may have photos and links
> there.
>
> I assume drivers would have to be written, anyone up to it?
>
>
>
> David Eggins
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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Andy wrote:

> Is there any WPM program written for it, to count your words per
> minute typing in a sentence or paragraph?

I've achieved something like 72 wpm on the 200LX, just typing a test
paragraph that I could probably find if I looked.

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On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

But, why do you want to pluse the LED? There is no power
advantage. See my other post on the subject.

Vic Roberts

> Oh, sure! I think the same happens when making a program
> that sends some data to the serial port....
> Wasn't a good idea from me.
>
> But - maybe there is a little (SMD-)circuit pulsing
> the LED's power?
>

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> > I think most serial ports are designed to survive even if their
> > outputs are shorted to ground.
>
> Some are, some aren't.  I've just reviewed the manufacturer's data
> sheet on the driver chip used in the HP200, and they don't specify
> that it will withstand either a permanent or momentary short.  That
> doesn't mean that it won't, or that the designers didn't plan for
> one or the other condition

Thanks for the additional information. I, for one, don't
believe that any electronic part should be used beyond the
conditions specified by the manufacturer.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> =
wrote:
> Ýsnip¨ The only case where
> this sort of thing is used to reduce power consumption is in the case
> of multiplexing multiple LED's as in a multicharacter display. Almost
> all multicharacter displays that use LED's multiplex them to lower
> current requirements through the driver stages. The effect is that
> only one digit/character is one at any given time but the switch
> frequency is so fast the the brain perceives them as all on all the
> time at a reduced brightness.

Yes, the brain does perceive all segments as on all the time if
the pulsing rate is high enough. But, the perceived brightness
is equal to the average brightness, not the peak brightness (as
you implied) so there is no energy savings compared to
continuous operation ... unless the LED itself is more
efficient at high current than at low. Otherwise you are
violating the law of energy conservation, and you wouldn't want
to be guilty of that, would you? <g>

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@addcoinc.com> wrote:
> > Unless the LED is more efficient at high current, pulsing the
> > LED will not save any energy. The eye works on average power,
> > not peak power, so nothing is gained by pulsing.
> >
> > Vic Roberts
>
> Vic,.... I strongly disagree.  The power used by the LED  is directly
> proportional to the duty cycle of the power applied to it.  As the =
on-time
> gets smaller, the eye will percieve it as getting dimmer ( the pulses =
are
> everaged , probably in the brain ) , and the power consumed will be
> proportionally less  ( this is a good thing for the HP200 ).

Jon,

You say you disagree, and the you go on to confirm exactly what
I said. If you use duty cycle modulation, the light AND the
power will go down together. This is a great way to dim an lED,
but it will not higher efficiency (same light at less power) as
the original poster suggested.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
> Seeing FN-L made me think about the old DOS key combination, CTRL-L (or
> was it CTRL-P???)  This made all subsequent commands and console data =
also
> get echoed to the printer.

I believe it is CTRL-P.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:50:19 +0100
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Martin Bergvill writes:
> > Since my Olympus does not provide a slot for flash cards, it would be a
> > clever way of beeing able to take more than the standard 12 pictures!
> >
> > If anyone is interested in developing something for this, I would be glad to
> > help!

I have written a Web page on exactly this subject.

I connected my Olympus to the palmtop. Read my experiences, comments and
a list of available software on

http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw

Good luck!
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Paul Thompson wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>      The single user license for Harmony '99 is $59.95 and can be purchased
> at http://www.extendedsystems.com/prodinfo/order/enterprise.htmlFrom
>
> Also, I have included a couple of links below regarding our SDK.
>
> Translator SDK - This component is required for translator developers. This
> is available from ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/Translator.zip
> This file contains "readme.txt" which explains the files included.
>
> HarmonySync SDK - Required for developers who need to develop Sync clients
> using our Sync engine. Available from
> ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/HarmonySync.zip This file contains
> "readme.txt" which explains the files included.
>
> Developer edition of Harmony - Available from
> ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/hmnydev.zip "Readme.txt" file in
> this zip file explains the translators included in this edition and the
> compiler version required. This edition contains debug infomation to help
> translator developers to debug their code.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick West Ýmailto:patrickwest@uswest.net¨
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 3:45 PM
> To: Info; harmonydev@extendsys.com
> Subject: Enterprise Enterprise Harmony '99 Development Tools
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
> That being the case How much is a single user
> version of Harmony and how much is the SDK?
>
> Info wrote:
> >
> > The HP 200LX is an older handheld device which is still running a DOS
> based
> > system.  The newer HP handheld devices are migrating toward Windows CE,
> > which is the system we are focusing on supporting.  Furthermore, there
> will
> > be no future support for the HP 200LX at all.
> > Extended Systems values your business.  To better serve your needs,
> > please provide your name, title, company name, address, phone number, and
> > fax number.  We will send you additional information to keep you up to
> > date on our latest product offerings.  Thank you again for your interest
> > in Extended Systems.
> >
>
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Al Kind wrote:

> Hi Martin & All:
>
> 31m53s ago ...
> On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > ...
> > I hope that the Camcontrol software gets finished soon. I have waited for a
> > long time. Does anyone know when it will be finished? I have checked their
> > website regulary, but it seems like their is no progress. I don't remeber the
> > link but it was something with Tambaware...does anybody have any info on them.
> > Tried to mail the author but with no luck..
> > ...
>
>      What is CamControl?
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __

Found the link on my computer. It is a program for automatic taking pictures and
dowloading them when the camera is full. I belive that they will make a dos version
too..check out the link..it has not been any progress there since december..

http://members.tripod.com/~tawba/


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Hi,

for all who wanted to have my instructions for building
a serial connector for the HP 100/200 LX:

They are now available at
http://www.palmtop.net/serial-howto.html

Or of you visit the palmtop.net homepage, you can
find it in the section 'More &...'.

Thanks to Mitch!

GTX
daniel

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> Please remove me from this news group.
> I have purchased a Palm 5, and have never had to look back.
> BTW, it's amazing.

I am sure you are soon back here again- unless you are happy with a
simple organizer. The real power is in HP 200LX and so far I have seen
about 8 HP 200LX users, turning to PalmPilot- they ALL returned to the
200LX after a while!!!

See you soon! :)


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Jorgen,

You wrote:

>I am sure you are soon back here again- unless you are happy with a
>simple organizer. The real power is in HP 200LX and so far I have seen
>about 8 HP 200LX users, turning to PalmPilot- they ALL returned to the
>200LX after a while!!!

FWIW, I agree and I have been there and done that with a Palm III.  I hope
it works out for him but think he'll be dissapponited in the Palm interface
and inflexibility.  I'm now back to a BIG desktop and an HP 200LX / 5
(actually two! LX/5's).  The interface is so familiar I feel like I never
left, except in the wallet area..... d8¬)

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This has been a previous item on this list ... I think many times.  I keep
my 4MB HP200LX around (not much used at this point) on the off chance that
this ever happens.  The theory - I spent ~$140 with Puma on this - was that
you could do the Intellisync for HP200LX to sync the HP to something like
Schedule+, then use IntelliSync for Notebooks to synchronize Schedule+ to
Notes.  The problem is that Notes sync doesn't exist in version 1.61 of the
Notebooks product, and the Organizer Sync is local-only (no nsf support).
When IntelliSync supports Organizer with nsf files or Notes directly, then
the multi-step sync will be possible (and worth it, IMO).  Until then, my
PalmV isn't so bad...

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:57:09 -0600
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On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 01:40:21AM -0330, Andy wrote:
> Is there any WPM program written for it, to count your words per
> minute typing in a sentence or paragraph?
>
> Can anyone tell me their average WPM typing, for example:
>
> "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs."
>
> Also, to compare, see how you do on your PC desktop full-size
> keyboard.
>
> And thank you.

Take a look at "TYPER" on S.U.P.E.R:

http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

It is really a "game" and doesn't rate you in WPM but it has been
useful in helping me to speed up my typing on the HP.

My score file shows my "best" at 153 and average is 134.7.  The main
thing that slows me down is that I am not a real good spelr which
brings up the "miss rate" which lowers the score.

BTW, best was done with HP on the desk using 3 fingers on my left hand
and two on my right.  Just now I tried it with "thumbs" and got 147.
Hmmm...  Seems I'm better with my thumbs!

jaime
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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:04:54 -0600
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Roberts Ýmailto:robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:48 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LED Frontlight
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "Peter W. Borders"
> <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> wrote:
> > Ýsnip¨ The only case where
> > this sort of thing is used to reduce power consumption is
> in the case
> > of multiplexing multiple LED's as in a multicharacter
> display. Almost
> > all multicharacter displays that use LED's multiplex them to lower
> > current requirements through the driver stages. The effect is that
> > only one digit/character is one at any given time but the switch
> > frequency is so fast the the brain perceives them as all on all the
> > time at a reduced brightness.
>
> Yes, the brain does perceive all segments as on all the time if
> the pulsing rate is high enough. But, the perceived brightness
> is equal to the average brightness, not the peak brightness (as
> you implied) so there is no energy savings compared to
> continuous operation ... unless the LED itself is more
> efficient at high current than at low. Otherwise you are
> violating the law of energy conservation, and you wouldn't want
> to be guilty of that, would you? <g>
>

Let's be clear on this.  The pulsing that we are referring to in this case
is multiplexing.
The brighness percieved as truly the average brightness, but this circuit
will never achieve peak brightness because only one digit can be illuminated
at one time. So, the average brightness can never be greater than one
display divided by the number of displays.

If you have a 10 digit display, then the average power ( and brightness )
will be 1/10 that of a non multiplexed display.  So there appears to be a
considerable power savings.  This is PWM in a way.  The PWM in this case is
a side effect of doing the multiplexing.

At this point, since the LED output has been dimininshed, the designer would
test the unit to see if was bright enough and then would probably consider
designing in a higher effeciancy LED to bring the brightness back up....if
that is required.


> Vic Roberts
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:29:26 +0000
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I might be a memory issue.  I use MSWord 5.0 for dos and use it without
sysmgr loaded.

5.0 has its own affect - it will not allow the hp to turnoff
automatically.  I believe that Stephen's utility (supersite) can help
avoid this issue.

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> If that little fold up keyboard is a GREAT replacement for the actual
> 200LX keyboard, I was wondering how effective is the 200LX
> keyboard anyway.


There is/was a program which helped train you on the hp keyboard but I
don't recall its name.

Some folks adapt pretty well to the hp and type faster and others remain
hunt and peckers.  In any event, the schemes used make this unit great
and portable.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:29:47 +0000
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> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > Well, then by the same token, can you explain why some HP's don't need
> > the "screen fix" for double speed and can be read clearly and others
> > need the screen fix or show double image blur?
>
> Interestingly, it seems to me that the legibility of the screen is a
> function of the screen itself, not the motherboard.  If I swap screens in
> the same 200LX, one could be completely bizarre without the driver, and
> the other fine.
>

Hence my question! (G)  Obviously, there are some 'hidden' differences
in components or something that allows some double-speed units to boot
without the screen/speed driver and be completely legible and other
units to be the double-blur.  And it is probably some of those same or
similar unit differences that make a special driver needed for this
double-slot extender to work in some but not all units.

I still would like to know what causes the blur differences between
units and whether knowing a part number of whatever would allow one to
predict a blurry or non-blurry screen.  Something accounts for the
difference and I would like to know which part it is???????  If known???

See (no pun intended), I am one of the few who still works on a
non-double speed unit!!!!!  I'd like a non-blur screen if I went with
the update. (G)

Ah. later messages seem to indicate it is actually and physically the
SCREEN itself and not any chip or other component - interesting.  So can
we tell by the telltale tints (those slight color variations everyone
reports) which is which? (G)

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:03:12 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> If you have a 10 digit display, then the average power ( and brightness )
> will be 1/10 that of a non multiplexed display.  So there appears to be a
> considerable power savings.

Only true if the comparison non-multiplexed display operates at your peak
pulse current.  And if this were so, the non-multiplexed display would
be significantly brighter - say 10x or so.

Comparison with a *equivalently bright* non-multiplexed display, where
the steady-state current is adjusted to be equivalent to your average
pulsed current, would be a wash.... no power savings.

My understanding of the reasons for pulsing of LEDs is for (a) multiplexing
as already discussed (reduces the number of discrete output needed), and
(b) implementing variable intensity w/o analog components.  There may also
be some situations where the LED output isn't a linear function of current,
and has a real bright output at a high current level that could not be
sustained without damaging the part.  In this case, it would make sense
to pulse the LED to take advantage of this non-linearity.

Regarding the LED's you guys are experimenting with, I have been in contact
with the US distributor of them, and he's expecting to have the detailed
data sheet to me early next week (it had to be Fed-Ex-ed from Germany).

-Chris Lott



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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:08:23 +0100
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John Watson wrote:

> Please remove me from this news group.
> I have purchased a Palm 5, and have never had to look back.
> BTW, it's amazing.
>
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That is sad to hear. I bought in november a Hp 700 Lx. I know have
bought a Hp 200 Lx in addition. I love the machines. I can hook'em up to
my digital camera, and I have found software to use on them that no Ce
or Epoc machine can match yet...will be many years before I do the
switch...

But I guess its what you want to do with your machine..if your main
purpose is pim sync with desktop then maybe a Win Ce is the right way to
go..the win ce gives you a "out of the box" solution for this...the hp
200/700 will serve _me_ in many years I hope..

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:22:21 +0700
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Stefan,

First of all I want to thank you for all the work that you've put in
writing great programs.  Thank you.

I'm probably going to start using the DC-20 a fair amount, so I would
like a copy of the img2gray and cjpeg programs.

Thank you very much,
Steve Soper

>
> If you need the IMG2GRAY and CJPEG programs, let me know.
>

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:49:50 -0800
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The light seems to be a simple led and the diffusion done through the led
lens itself. Don't remember the diffusion to have ever been different, but
maybe the lens has been scratched enough (in my pocket with my keys and
change) over time to dull it. In any case, it shouldn't be very hard to dull
the lend manually on any led using some kind of sandpaper...

Philippe :)

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From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: LED experiments


> Hi,
>
> > In any case, I can definitely use the 200LX with that light since it's
> > diffuse enough and bright enough.
>
> That's interesting!
> How is the light diffused? Is it such a small plastic
> piece with little 'riffles' on it?
>
> Maybe we all could use this device, take out the CR2032
> and power it via a strong wire (holding the device in place
> above the screen).
> This wire could be attached to the serial port.
>
> How big is this light?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
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> Germany
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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:10:11 +0100
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              Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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>
> Do you recall this snapping sound to be only a fairly recent
> phenomena?  Has your keyboard been entirely quiet before, even
> touch typing rapidly, when you first purchased it?
>

My keyboard was entirely quiet until a year ago, when the
keys started getting the snapping sound. After the
cleaning, my keyboard is quiet again.

And now something not related to the subject of this
message or of this list; therefore I would like if you
replied me off the list, directly to my E-mail address.

What do you think about unprovoked NATO agression against
Yugoslavia? Here are some facts from the other side:
  1) NATO is the alliance of defensive character (its
     troups are engaged only when one of its members is
     attacked, which is not the case, or when a country,
     member of UN, asks for help and the UN approve it);
  2) this action was not authorized by UN;
  3) Yugoslavia didn't endanger any country, whether it's
     a  member of NATO or not;
  4) Yugoslavia is not the member of NATO
  5) Yugoslavia didn't ask for any help from UN in its
     fight against terrorism, which is considered to be its
     internal affair
  6) some countries have the same problem-areas as
     Yugoslavia does, but they're not accused of
     endangering the human rights: Spain in Basque country,
     France on the Corsica, Great Britain in Northern
     Ireland, Turkey with the Kurds
  7) so called LAK (Liberation Army of Kosovo, consisted of
     Albanian extremists from Kosovo and Albania) fight not
     for human rights, but to form a new state on the
     territory of another state (Serbia); they hijack
     ordinary people from their firms and homes, they plant
     bombs on public places (caffes, restaurants, markets),
     which is, by definition, terrorism
  8) Yugoslavia is multiethnic country; all the ethnic
     communities, including Albanians, have their rights, but
     Albanians don't use them; for examle, they have the
     right to vote, but don't partecipate in legal, Yugoslav
     or Serbian, elections, but in their own elections for
     selfproclamed state
  9) Serbia can accept only autonomy, but never the
     secession of the part of its territory; it means
     nothing to Serbia if Kosovo remained its territory on
     map only, without the fundamental characteristics of
     the state: legal, legislative and executive authority
     on Kosovo

There is no war at Kosovo, there are only terrorist
actions, because one of the sides (Albanian terrorists) is
much weaker than the other (Yugoslav army) and a conflict
like this would not last long. The terrorism on Kosovo is
expressed this much because it's helped from our
neighbour, Albania, where are many bases for training of
terrorists. The illegaly cross the bourder, taking the
arms in. At the same time, my country was accused of
eccesive use of force wnen defended its own bourders. This
not being enough to equalize the power of the sides, NATO
began the air strikes against Yugoslav army, using 450
airplanes (excessive use of force?). Since my country is
attacked from outside, it is entitled to ask military help
from the countries willing to help (by sending more
advanced weapons), and I think that such countries exist,
because NATO action was not authorized by the UN, i.e. not
all the members of Security council agreed with that
decision. Therefore it's essential that the decisions of
military actions are made in Security council; otherwise,
the fights will spread in more and more countries and will
cause, in the end, World War III.


Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Has anybody tried Socket Communication's Ethernet cards?

See: http://www.socketcom.com/ethprods.htm

There is an enabler software for DOS, and it is supposedly compatible
with HP 100/200/700LX, Windows CE palmtops, Notebooks.

I saw them mentioned at http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/network.htm

The power consumption for LP-E, Active (twisted pair) is 32 mA (160
mW).  Socket LP+E is 40 mA.

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:50:33 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Hi Andy, here my test:

START:
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs. The quic kbrown
fox jumped over the lazy dogs. The quick brown fox jumped over
the lazy dogs. The quic kbrown fox jumped over the lazy dogs.
The quick brown fox jjumped over the lazy dogs. The quick
brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs. The quick brown fox
jumped over the lazy dogs. The quick brown
END.

60 seconds as is. 66 words, 340 keystrokes, deductions for errors
not yet accounted for. This is about the minimum requirement
for typists if I remember well.

On the full size keyboard I experience initially a 15-20%
speed increase, not more. Changing over from the rather
insensitive HPLX keyboard to the full size supersensitive
keyboard requires time until the high error rate drops. In
all, I do not feel any need for a larger keyboard (Newton or
folding etc.) for the HPLX. Its attraction, apart from
computing power, is size after all.

Regards
Winfried

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:32:39 -0800
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              Barry Swatman <barry_swatman@ORST.EDU>
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I have a couple items that I no longer need that I would like to trade
or sale.

I have Derive version 2 for the 95 LX, manual and PCMCIA ROM.

I also have the HP Palmtop Papers from Fall 1991  to  Vol 4 #2 1995.  I
am not sure if it is 100%.  There are 30 magazines (the Paper and Bonus
issues).

Anyone have a Miniature Flash card (the kind for the original HP
PhotoSmart camera)?


Thanks
Barry

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Date:         Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:34:46 -0600
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Subject:      Re: pcmcia modem

These markings refer to the Ringer Equivalence (REN) and Line Load
values for the telephony circuit in the card.  In a nut shell, you can
only draw so much current from a phone line, or hang so many "bells" on
the ring voltage (~90VAC, 20hZ) before you got no phone anymore.  I
think a REN of 5.0 is max ringer load, and if your "battery" (phone
supplied voltage when off-hook) drops below 6 volts, you need to remove
some phones from the line.

Hope this crud is useful.  :)

Phil

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Nancy A. Barker ÝSMTP:nancyb@BEST.COM¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, March 10, 1999 9:44 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       pcmcia modem
>
>I have a Megahertz Xjack XJ2288 (28.8/14.4). On the
>back, one line reads:
>
>REN: 0.5B, Load: 4, 5V
>
>No "mA" was listed. Does anyone know if this is usable in a
>200LX?
>
>thanks
>n.
>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:37:23 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Password protection

There is software on S.U.P.E.R. that will "crack" the HP200's
password(s).  Don't worry about where you have your important numbers,
remember, all those account numbers get mailed to you once a month or so
anyway.  It would be much easier for someone to just steal your mail.
What I'm trying to say is, your palmtop is more secure than most of the
other information resources you have.

Phil
Post Script: What is this weird character set you are using?

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Sent:   Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:19 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Password protection

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Here's a question that was probably answered before I subscribed to this
list:

How safe is the file-based password protection on the HP? I'm trying to
imagine how easy it would be for someone who find my 200 to crack this
baby
up. There's a lot of stuff (passwords, account numbers and such) in
there I
wouldn't want them to find... You could say my 200 is my password ring.
I
mean, there's so many places that requires a password, I need to put
them
all in a easily accessible and portable place. So my 200 is it.

If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based
password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200?
Preferably System Manager compliant...

Thanks

Philippe :)

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:07:50 -0600
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On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

The new LEDs should be far more efficient than the small
incandescant lamps used in the clip-on lamps. I am away from my
data books right now, so I can't give you an exact comparison.

Vic Roberts

> Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in =
the
> clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)?  I =
ahve
> one of these and it goes through a set of batteries fairly quickly.
> Doesn't seem like it would take much expertise to adapt these (even I =
could
> do it).  Alternatively, can the "gooseneck" and lens be purchased =
somewhere
> separately for use with the serial port (or cannabilized from one of =
the
> lights)?

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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.=
MIL> wrote:

I have at Model 100 and Model 102. They do not use CP/M, but
run on a proprietary operating system. They do have MS Basic in
ROM which allows you to write application programs.

But, why would you want to do this? The Model 100 is no
smaller than an HP Omnibook 300, 425, 530, 600, or 800. The OB
800 is a P166 machine with a 2GB to 4GB HD, up to 80MB of RAM
and Instant On, just like the 100LX and 200LX.

Vic Roberts

> I used to do a LOT of my typing on the old Radio Shack Model 100's =
Ýalso the
> Tandy 102 and even a Tandy 200¨.  These, AFAIK, are CP/M machines w/ a =
real
> serial ÝDB25¨, a proprietary parallel and a modem port Ývery proprietary=
 DIN
> critter, that dials up at an honest 300 baud¨.
>
> Anyway, this was my pre-LX, LX Machine.  I still have a few kicking =
around
> and love the keyboard on one. I can, and have used a utility to type an
> ASCII file on a m100 and send it to the LX on a homemade cable attached =
to
> the LX's adapting cable.
>

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:07:53 -0600
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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Flyers <Flyers@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> Two greens joined together both angled away from each other Ý30-45
> degrees¨ overhanging the centre to cover the screen.
> Interesting that green is the best colour!
> For those who don't want to use the serial port how about a little
> voltage inverter chip ÝMAXXIM EXAR Linear National¨ to raise the =
battery
> voltage to say 6V or so.

If you are not going to use the serial port, there is no
advantage to using a voltage inverter to raise the voltage.
LEDs will run just fine from a 3V supply with a current
limiting resistor.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:07:51 -0600
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Stan,

I see you are living dangerously again.<g>  And this from the
guy who cautions all of us about burning out their PCMCIA
slots with high current draw modems!

Vic

> This discussion has sparked my interest.  I went to Radio
> Shack last night and picked up three LED's to test.  A green
> wide angle 5mcd at 2 ma, Red 800 mcd at 20 ma, and a large
> orange wide angle one at 12000 mcd and 30 ma.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:18:39 -0800
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Would you have to insert a current-limiting resistor (as mentioned in one
of your subsequent e-mails)?  I would like to convert mine - brighter light
for less energy; sounds like a good deal to me.

tia,

Claud

At 06:07 PM 3/26/99 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>The new LEDs should be far more efficient than the small
>incandescant lamps used in the clip-on lamps. I am away from my
>data books right now, so I can't give you an exact comparison.
>
>Vic Roberts
>
>> Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in the
>> clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)?  I ahve
>> one of these and it goes through a set of batteries fairly quickly.
>> Doesn't seem like it would take much expertise to adapt these (even I could
>> do it).  Alternatively, can the "gooseneck" and lens be purchased somewhere
>> separately for use with the serial port (or cannabilized from one of the
>> lights)?
>
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>
>

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:01:56 GMT
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Subject:      Re: pcmcia modem
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Phil,    What they are saying with the REN is that the central office =
will only supply
enough AC ring current to ring 5 of the old style phone sets ringers..
Now your new phones only take half or so current... So now you can=20
ring more.. If you want...
You could run more phones but you would have to remove the wires to the=20
bell or ringer...
You will only have ONE phone off hook at a time so the LINE current will =
be enough
unless you are 20 miles or more from town..
So... Line current and REN are two different things..

You may find that for faster and better modem use it is better to have =
only the modem on=20
the line... As the extra ringers will build up capacitance and degrade =
your line.
Cordless phone are the worst...       ????????

Hope this makes sense to some...

Dean  W5GXL


On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:34:46 -0600, you wrote:

>These markings refer to the Ringer Equivalence (REN) and Line Load
>values for the telephony circuit in the card.  In a nut shell, you can
>only draw so much current from a phone line, or hang so many "bells" on
>the ring voltage (~90VAC, 20hZ) before you got no phone anymore.  I
>think a REN of 5.0 is max ringer load, and if your "battery" (phone
>supplied voltage when off-hook) drops below 6 volts, you need to remove
>some phones from the line.
>
>Hope this crud is useful.  :)
>
>Phil

>>Subject:       pcmcia modem
>>
>>I have a Megahertz Xjack XJ2288 (28.8/14.4). On the
>>back, one line reads:
>>
>>REN: 0.5B, Load: 4, 5V
>>
>>No "mA" was listed. Does anyone know if this is usable in a
>>200LX?
>>

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 20:15:32 -0500
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Just got a 2nd 200LX, it came with HP Connectivity Pack and Puma's IntelliSync.

1.) Any favorites of the two? Or maybe go with Transfile?

2.) Best place(s) to send the other LX for a double-speed upgrade?

Any advice opinions appreciated.

Rob Blasdel

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Does anyone have just the connectivity software they'd like to sell?
Thanks,
Bob
******************************
    Terbocom Computer Services
 "Your launchpad into Cyberspace!"
  email: webmaster@yourlaunchpad.com
     http://www.yourlaunchpad.com
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Rob wrote:

> 1.) Any favorites of the two? Or maybe go with Transfile?

My personal favorite is my ol' reliable Connectivity Pack.  It offers more
flexible options than Intellisync and Transfile because it requires no
additional software on the PC to sync with....  I use the HP's tools
exclusively and carry no paper organizer so the CP works for me.  I have a
copy of Act for the HP95LX but don't use it.

> 2.) Best place(s) to send the other LX for a double-speed upgrade?

Hal's Pals at Palmtop Paper without doubt.  Macks' products are reliable and
cost effective.  I have two 5 meg double speed units they did and they are
fast, reliable, and durable.

> Any advice opinions appreciated.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:38:13 -0500
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date- Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:18:55 -0500
From- garyb@greyengineering.com (Gary Bullard)

Subscriber Comments: I have just receive a HP200LX and need a simple
and effective solution to transfer survey data files to my office PC.
What is ZAP.com prog. and where can  I download it for evaluation.  I
have been using a HP95LX for my work until it stop communicating with
my survey instrument.  Kermit on my DOS 6.2 PC(bought in 94) was very
effective for my file transfers with my HP95LX.  Will Kermit work
effectively o n a Thank you for your input!


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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:37:09 -0800
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Hi Bob,
zot2u@earthlink.net has this and the intellisync also.
Hope you are in So. CA.

Bob Roberts wrote:
>
> Does anyone have just the connectivity software they'd like to sell?
> Thanks,
> Bob
> ******************************
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>  "Your launchpad into Cyberspace!"
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>      http://www.yourlaunchpad.com
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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:03:06 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Can you run a modem and a Compact flash card in the double slot adapter at
the same time? I would like to email pictures I have on the compact flash
when I am on the road.

TIA

Karl DeLyria

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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:16:25 -0500
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Greetings All:

     Please forgive me if I state the obvious, but I want to make sure
we don't have a problem.

This is not a forum for political opinion.

     Please keep politics off this LIST!

Thank You,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Do you have any PCMCIA Storage?

Al Kind wrote:
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> Date- Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:18:55 -0500
> From- garyb@greyengineering.com (Gary Bullard)
>
> Subscriber Comments: I have just receive a HP200LX and need a simple
> and effective solution to transfer survey data files to my office PC.
> What is ZAP.com prog. and where can  I download it for evaluation.  I
> have been using a HP95LX for my work until it stop communicating with
> my survey instrument.  Kermit on my DOS 6.2 PC(bought in 94) was very
> effective for my file transfers with my HP95LX.  Will Kermit work
> effectively o n a Thank you for your input!
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:57:41 -0800
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I have one of those HP alphanumeric pcmcia pager cards. I remember these
were worth around 200$ at the time. It's in perfect working condition, and
received news, weather and quotes. Anyone interested in buying it? Make an
offer!

Philippe :)

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 07:33:31 +0200
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Can anyone offer some advice about the vertical lines I get
when I switch between 'palmtops' of Super Software Carousel
and how to prevent it?
Thanks, Rian Maartens

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I've heard that the editor in IBM PC DOS 7.0 is excellent.

If anyone on the list has used it, could you please--
- Describe its capabilities (e.g., search and replace, macros)?
- Comment on whether it will work OK on the HP200LX (e.g., mono)?

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              Mar 27, 99 07:33:31 am
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> Can anyone offer some advice about the vertical lines I get
> when I switch between 'palmtops' of Super Software Carousel
> and how to prevent it?

I, too, get these.  I had about decided that there is something
wrong with my palmtop or that my copy of SSC was corrupted.  Glad
to hear that I'm not the only one in the same boat!  Now, anyone
know how to fix this?

-Chris Lott

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Subject:      Re: Double slot
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.3.32.19990326190306.00ffc100@pop.metaskills.com> from "Karl
              DeLyria" at Mar 26, 99 07:03:06 pm
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> Can you run a modem and a Compact flash card in the double slot adapter at
> the same time? I would like to email pictures I have on the compact flash
> when I am on the road.

I haven't actually tried my DS with this configuration...  but it works
with other communication cards (ethernet and parallel port) in top slot.
I also don't own any compact flash cards - but it would seem that if
you have a PCMCIA adaptor, it should work.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:32:18 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      NE editor

I have been trying the freeware NE editor someone suggested on this list.
It really is excellent and with the built in spellchecker I have found it
very useful.

Only problem I have is with the "colors" which do not show the dialog
boxes very well on the HP and require toggling the contrast to see better.
Has anyone found a solution to this?  The NE does not have a monochrome
setting.

Thanks.


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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 07:49:08 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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 I purchased Lotus 123 v2.4 on 5-1/4 used for my desktop so I could have
the same version w/manual as the HP200LX.

Any knowledge on how to change the license registration name? Better
yet, does anyone have the pristine 123.exe file dated 04-24-92 on Disk
One (Install) they could email?

The disks are not copy protected, but once the 123.exe is registered, it
has that person's registration embedded into the file.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:00:56 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: LED Frontlight
Comments: To: "Carson Jon A." <JACarson@addcoinc.com>
In-Reply-To:  <92C6CDA989B8D2118D59006008BD51AF0BD216@rc.addcoinc.com> from
              "Carson, Jon A." at Mar 26, 99 11:00:53 am
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SUBJ:  LED Pulsing/Multiplexing and Power

I *think* there is still a mis-understanding about this matter, so
I want to clarify some things.  I may be stating the obvious, and
everyone is on the same wavelength (ha ha ha), and I just misunderstood
some of the comments.  If so, sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

I made my comments about LEDs because I thought someone tried to say
that you could save power by pulsing them.  If nobody tried to say
this, apologies in advance.  But I still maintain that you can't save
power by pulsing or multiplexing your LED(s)...

Here are some assumptions I'll be making in my example below:

(a) LED brightness output is linearly proportional to forward current

(b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power
    (I'm not 100% sure this is true, but don't know enough about optics
    and the eye response to know better).

(c) The fictitious LED in my example will not be damaged as continuous
    forward currents of 10mA

> > > Jon Carson wrote:
> > > If you have a 10 digit display, then the average power ( and brightness )
> > > will be 1/10 that of a non multiplexed display.  So there appears to be a
> > > considerable power savings.
> >
> > Chris Lott wrote:
> > Only true if the comparison non-multiplexed display operates  at your peak
> > pulse current.  And if this were so, the non-multiplexed display would
> > be significantly brighter - say 10x or so.
>
> Jon Carson wrote:
> My explanation is based on requiring that the LED current remains the same
> in both cases.  If you change the rules, and increase the current through
> the LED's you no longer save 90%, but since the LED has a maximum current
> limit the power you consume will still probably be a fraction of the power
> of the non-muliplexed case.  In other words, you probably don't want to
> drive the LED at 10 times more current just to make up for it.

I disagree that I was changing any rules.  It was you who was un-fairly
comparing two situations with significantly different brightness levels,
and then claiming a power savings.  I'll try to explain clearer with
some examples:

In keeping with the example posed above, consider a row of 10 single LEDs.
We will multiplex then, each at a 1/10 duty factor, with a peak current
of 10 mA.  The average current through a single LED would be 1 mA.
Our driver electronics is always providing 10 mA, albeit to different
LEDs.  So the total power required is (approximately) 10mA x 0.6V = 6mW.

Now, let's consider the same array, but not multiplexed.  This array will
be driven so as to have the SAME brightness as our previous example.  So
we must drive each LED with 1 mA.  The power our driver supplies to one
LED is (approx) 1 mA x 0.6V = 600 uW.  But we must drive 10 LEDs, so the
total power is 10x this, or 6mW (note this is the SAME power as above).

The only case where there is a power savings: when we drive each LED
in the array with the same current as we used in our multiplexed case.
This isn't a fair comparison, since the array will be 10x brighter,
and we therefore would be comparing apples and oranges.  In this un-fair
case, each LED would be driven with 10mA, or 6mW per LED.  That would
make for 60mW total power for the entire array.

So, in conclusion, I can see no reason to support the allegation that
pulsing or multiplexing LEDs saves power (when compairing equi-intensity
cases).

Now.... I'd love to hear more discussion about item (b) in my original
supposition.  There's been something nagging at me about this ever since
someone stated it in an earlier post.  As I said, I don't know enough
to agree with or dispute it....

> I think what you guys are doing is worthy, but I just want you to know that
> there are other design factors that could be usefull.

Well, first, let me make clear that I'm not doing any of these LED
experiments.  As an electrical engineer, I was just a little worried
about some of the reports I first heard.  I have taken it on myself
voluntarily to do some research and analysis and see what's going on,
and what would be safe, WRT these LED experiments.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 07:55:34 -0700
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Is this the Norton Editor? Which version and where did you get it.
I have a couple of versions but wasn't aware of any spell checking.

Bob Meyer
<bmeyer@union-tel.com>
Elk Mountain WY

Jeff Malka wrote:

> I have been trying the freeware NE editor someone suggested on this list.
> It really is excellent and with the built in spellchecker I have found it
> very useful.
>
> Only problem I have is with the "colors" which do not show the dialog
> boxes very well on the HP and require toggling the contrast to see better.
> Has anyone found a solution to this?  The NE does not have a monochrome
> setting.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:05:33 +0200
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From:         Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>
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Just after being online with 'post' in WWW/LX plus, it crashed!!!
In Dos the message read:
Fatal error: No mailbox named 'Mail' found
Exiting WWW/LX

I viewed the post.cfg file in filer and the only contents
were:
ÝSYSTEM¨
Error=3D*** News2/LX ***|Must configure default NNTP-Server!

I seem to be up and running again since I copied post.cfg
from my PC backup.

Can anyone on the HPLX list offer some explanation for this
and offer some advice on how to prevent it in future.

I run a 2x/32Mb 200LX with SSC. Post was the only program
running in 'palmtop' 5 when it crashed.

Rian Maartens

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 08:56:58 -0600
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      200lx for sale

I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 + Shipping:

        200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual,
        SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter,
        HP Power Adapter (F1011A),
        Connectivity Cable,
        14.4 Modem (Compaq),
        Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.),
        CaseLogic Case, and
        WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card).

I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers on
individual items at this time.

I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an interested
amateur.  I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power supply.
 I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't ask
me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio.
I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it.

Larry Zimmerman
Topeka, KS, USA



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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:53:15 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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=46ound an interesting web site for small laptop computers, its mostly
Japanese laptops converted to english software etc...

Check it out...

http://www.jpd.com


PS I don't work for this website but provide this information as a
help to the readers and users of portable computer equipment.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 08:54:16 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Mike,

Thank you very much! I am a happy camper. Can't believe your response time!

Just installed 123 v2.4 and it works fine. Fixed my original Disk One
(Install) so it is as an original.

Mike Melancon wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I can help you.  -  I always diskcopy the originals and install from
> the copies so I think this file will work for you.  Let me knwo if it
> does the trick.
>
> >  I purchased Lotus 123 v2.4 on 5-1/4 used for my desktop so I could have
> > the same version w/manual as the HP200LX.
> >
> > Any knowledge on how to change the license registration name? Better
> > yet, does anyone have the pristine 123.exe file dated 04-24-92 on Disk
> > One (Install) they could email?
> >
> > The disks are not copy protected, but once the 123.exe is registered, it
> > has that person's registration embedded into the file.
> >
> > Bob Meyer
> > bmeyer@union-tel.com
> > Elk Mountain WY
> >
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> >
> >
> Best Regards,
> Mike Melancon
>
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> If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance.
>
>    ---- File information -----------
>      File:  123.EXE
>      Date:  24 Apr 1992, 1:23
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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:02:42 -0330
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              Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
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Date sent:              Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:46:39 +0800
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        Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
From:                   Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:                Re: unsubscribe- see you soon again!
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> > Please remove me from this news group.
> > I have purchased a Palm 5, and have never had to look back.
> > BTW, it's amazing.
>
> I am sure you are soon back here again- unless you are happy with a
> simple organizer. The real power is in HP 200LX and so far I have seen
> about 8 HP 200LX users, turning to PalmPilot- they ALL returned to the
> 200LX after a while!!!
>

Is there a free graphical web browser for the 200LX that supports
cookies?

The simple organizer does got one.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 10:33:14 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Double Slot and Modem (& FTP)
Content-Type: text

Regarding in earlier question about Double Slot and a Modem... I just
had occassion to use my modem with my DS adaptor, and it works fine.
(I needed to ftp a file from my ISP shell account to my palmtop at work,
and I can't do it via ethernet - we have a firewall that requires passive
ftp transfers, and neither of my ftp programs (LXTCP or WWWLX) supports
them...)

So..... the modem works fine in the top slot of my DS adaptor.  I use
the Megahertz X-Jack modem, model XJ1144.  (And by connecting through
the phone lines, I can get either ftp program to work just fine -
there's no firewall involved, and passive transfers aren't required.
Also, I tend to prefer slightly the LXTCP version, as it supports a
wider variety of standard FTP commands).

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:29:45 -0330
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              Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
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Another thing I'd like to ask, how about typing in your lap.  Can you
put the 200LX in your lap, and type?  Assuming knees together.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:03:46 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Bill Childers wrote:
>  The brochure has a fellow looking at his dayrunnner, and holding a 200LX!  <grin>


I just happen to see the cover of "One digital
day" A high gloss coffee table photo book a couple
of years old.

Has anyone seen this?  The cover photo has what
looks to me like a HP200LX!


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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:10:03 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> I just happen to see the cover of "One digital day" A high gloss
> coffee table photo book a couple of years old.
>
> Has anyone seen this?  The cover photo has what looks to me like a
> HP200LX!

I saw that too, at the bookstore.  It's a photographical-essay type book
on how computers have changed our lives.  The cover features a boy sitting
in a hammock using a palmtop.  The logo on the machine has been removed,
but the palmtop certainly looks like a 200LX.

In fact, I could have sworn I mentioned it before.  Maybe I forgot and
just thought I did.

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Folks,

I just d/led these files and am wishing I were a
programmer. The SDK stuff includes a demo add on
app that converts to csv!
A programmer using Visual C++ or Visual Basic can
create an add on to the regular product.  One that
uses the regular product's
engine to do the work.

> Translator SDK - This component is required for translator developers. This
> is available from ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/Translator.zip
> This file contains "readme.txt" which explains the files included.
>
> HarmonySync SDK - Required for developers who need to develop Sync clients
> using our Sync engine. Available from
> ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/HarmonySync.zip This file contains
> "readme.txt" which explains the files included.
>
> Developer edition of Harmony - Available from
> ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/hmnydev.zip "Readme.txt" file in
> this zip file explains the translators included in this edition and the
> compiler version required. This edition contains debug infomation to help
> translator developers to debug their code.
>

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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:29:47 +0000
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From:         "Helmuth E. Guenther" <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Double slot
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Chris,

> I haven't actually tried my DS with this configuration...  but it works
> with other communication cards (ethernet and parallel port) in top =
slot.
> I also don't own any compact flash cards - but it would seem that if
> you have a PCMCIA adaptor, it should work.
>
> -Chris Lott

Very interesting, I would be glad, if you could tell which ethernet
card you are using within DS and which network you run.

At present I am working with Accurite Inc. to get it to work with MS
network, which works fine without DS. Whenever the network drivers are
loaded, drive A: which is a CFlash or a Flash, stops working. This is
independend of single speed or double speed.

Looking forward to learn how you got it to work.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 01:34:04 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi There!

I have PAL and Borland Turbo C 2.0 installed and it works fine- no
problem. Until- I wanted to install Harry Konstas PALGDB- General
Database Access Routines- an addon to the exsisting PAL installation.

So I followed the installation instructions, but when I rebult my PAL
library files- I get the error messages below and do not understand why.
Please advice.

Thanks and Regards,


Jorgen

Turbo C  Version 2.0  Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International
gdb\closedb.c:
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 130: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 131: Redeclaration of 'WORD'
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 131: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 137: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 138: Redeclaration of 'BYTE'
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 138: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 145: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 146: Redeclaration of 'BYTE'
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 146: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 147: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 148: Redeclaration of 'BYTE'
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 148: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 157: Declaration missing ;
Error .\inc\palgdb.h 158: Redeclaration of 'WORD'

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:51:54 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Double slot
In-Reply-To:  <199903271729.MAA06923@dub-img-ims-4.compuserve.com> from
              "Helmuth E. Guenther" at Mar 27, 99 06:29:47 pm
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Helmuth:

> Very interesting, I would be glad, if you could tell which ethernet
> card you are using within DS and which network you run.

Deal... but you gotta tell me what drivers you use for your MS network,
and where you got them!  I've wanted to do this, and heard it could be
done, but required drivers that didn't exist.

My ethernet card is the Accton EN2216-1.  It is a PCMCIA card, with a
short adaptor cable to an RJ-45 connector for TWP ethernet wiring.  I'm
using it on a Novell Netware network (actually, our physical network
carries both MS peer-to-peer network traffic and Novell Netware traffic,
but from the palmtop I can only use Netware.

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:27:34 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Rian  - I would suggest that it's SC's fault. It eats too much memory.
I've had severe destructive crashes in PostLX and in dBase, with CFG
files wiped out, and things renamed on C: drive. I eventually got rid
of SC and everything runs normally. And, I carry a second 200LX in my
bag, if I really have to run several things at once.

Mikhail

Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, MD FRCPC
Forensic/Correctional Psychiatry
Tel 905-921-2255, Fax 905-628-4443
155 James South, # 167, Hamilton, Ontario, L8N 1H5  Canada



>
> I run a 2x/32Mb 200LX with SSC. Post was the only program
> running in 'palmtop' 5 when it crashed.
>
> Rian Maartens
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:51:37 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I just figured this out.  I was running low on memory, and apparently
the screen isn't saved in this case.  It was in my orig manual (my
upgrade from thaddeus didn't come with the main original manual,
unless it's on the CD and I haven't looked for it, since I have the
paper one).  Also, I think my swap file was corupt somehow.  I deleted
it and recreated it w/CAROUSEL.EXE, and it works fine again for now.

-Chris



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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: unsubscribe- see you soon again!
Comments: To: Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>

> Date sent:              Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:46:39 +0800
> Send reply to:          HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> From:                   Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> Subject:                Re: unsubscribe- see you soon again!
> To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> > > Please remove me from this news group.
> > > I have purchased a Palm 5, and have never had to look back.
> > > BTW, it's amazing.
> >
> > I am sure you are soon back here again- unless you are happy with a
> > simple organizer. The real power is in HP 200LX and so far I have seen
> > about 8 HP 200LX users, turning to PalmPilot- they ALL returned to the
> > 200LX after a while!!!
> >
>
> Is there a free graphical web browser for the 200LX that supports
> cookies?
>
> The simple organizer does got one.

Sure, its called Arachne. Supports frames too. WWW/LX and HV also
support cookies. There's also bobcat, and doslynx. John Musielewicz

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Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>

> Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, MD FRCPC
> Forensic/Correctional Psychiatry

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Chris,

> Deal... but you gotta tell me what drivers you use for your MS network,
> and where you got them!  I've wanted to do this, and heard it could be
> done, but required drivers that didn't exist.

I got sent it from an ACCTON dealer. I think it was written in 1996 at
Japan. But even with Accurite we couldn't get it to work with DS.

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:31:45 -0800
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On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:05:33 +0200, Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM> =
wrote:

> Just after being online with 'post' in WWW/LX plus, it crashed!!!
> In Dos the message read:
> Fatal error: No mailbox named 'Mail' found
> Exiting WWW/LX
>
> I viewed the post.cfg file in filer and the only contents
> were:
> ÝSYSTEM¨
> Error=3D*** News2/LX ***|Must configure default NNTP-Server!
>
> I seem to be up and running again since I copied post.cfg
> from my PC backup.
>
> Can anyone on the HPLX list offer some explanation for this
> and offer some advice on how to prevent it in future.
>
> I run a 2x/32Mb 200LX with SSC. Post was the only program
> running in 'palmtop' 5 when it crashed.

My advice would be upgrade to POST/LX 2.2a that might fix your
problem from jump street. (:-)

also try running POST in session one for a while and do a
backup of your post.cfg after every online session until you get it
fixed.

HTH

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:59:20 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:51:37 -0600, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

> I just figured this out.  I was running low on memory, and apparently
> the screen isn't saved in this case.  It was in my orig manual (my
> upgrade from thaddeus didn't come with the main original manual,
> unless it's on the CD and I haven't looked for it, since I have the
> paper one).  Also, I think my swap file was corupt somehow.  I deleted
> it and recreated it w/CAROUSEL.EXE, and it works fine again for now.
>

Chris this is just a suggestion, but have you thought about eliminating
the SC swap file all together and just using strait EMS (Tremm).
It worked for me. (:-)

Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:39:38 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              27, 99 02:51:37 pm
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CLARIFICATION:

> I just figured this out.  I was running low on memory, and apparently
> the screen isn't saved in this case.

By "low on memory", I was referring to the SC resource pool.  As I
re-read my post, I realized that I hadn't been clear on this.

-Chris



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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:41:15 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Double slot
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              E. Guenther" at Mar 27, 99 01:00:00 am
Content-Type: text

> > Deal... but you gotta tell me what drivers you use for your MS network,
> > and where you got them!  I've wanted to do this, and heard it could be
> > done, but required drivers that didn't exist.
>
> I got sent it from an ACCTON dealer. I think it was written in 1996 at
> Japan. But even with Accurite we couldn't get it to work with DS.

Is this available in the public domain?  Or do you have to purchase it?
What Accton dealer provided/sold it to you?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:42:42 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: SSC and Bars
In-Reply-To:  <199903272259.OAA26073@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> from "Quinton
              Jones Jr" at Mar 27, 99 02:59:20 pm
Content-Type: text

> Chris this is just a suggestion, but have you thought about eliminating
> the SC swap file all together and just using strait EMS (Tremm).
> It worked for me. (:-)

No doubt that it works... but is there any advantage?  I'm pleased with
the performance I have now.  Maybe there's some benefit I haven't
thought of...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:59:45 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> No doubt that it works... but is there any advantage?  I'm pleased
> with the performance I have now.  Maybe there's some benefit I haven't
> thought of...

The advantage is slightly faster swap time... and use of any leftover EMS
for other programs.  The downside, of course, is that you can't put the
file on a flash card, and the slight memory hit you take with the EMS
driver...

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 16:14:20 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I once used SC, but now prefer MaxDOS. But in either case, as with several other
application programs, I found EMS a cleaner use of resource.

A single disk area is reserved by EMS for swap operations using low level disk
operations to bypass file handles and the associated overhead. Also, if you have
several programs that can use EMS (ie, SC, MaxDOS, PKZIP, Framework, Lotus 123
(desktop), etc), they all share the same resource rather than having to allocate
a separate swap file for each (tho that's not always an option for some prorams
such as pkzip).

I did some timing tests when I had SC installed, and found both it and Framework
swapped much faster than by using application-specific swap files.  The only
real reason for using swap files, is if you're so tight on disk/RAM space that
you can't afford to permanently allocate 1-2 mb for the EMS roll area....in
which case, you'd have to expect there'd be times when your swap file creation
(using non-EMS techniques) would fail.  Also, some application-swap file
techniques don't cleanup after themselves after a lockup-reboot and you have to
manually clean house yourself...not a big deal, but with EMS it's all done
auto-magically.

- Longden






"R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> on 03/27/99 03:42:42 PM

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Subject:  Re: SSC and Bars




> Chris this is just a suggestion, but have you thought about eliminating
> the SC swap file all together and just using strait EMS (Tremm).
> It worked for me. (:-)

No doubt that it works... but is there any advantage?  I'm pleased with
the performance I have now.  Maybe there's some benefit I haven't
thought of...

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:26:39 +0900
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Hi,
<br>Does anybody&nbsp; know how to get the 200LX show the full screen when
using the COLINS
<br>newest version of electronic dic.?
<br>I have upgraded to 32 MB and am using SSC but for wome heavenly reason
it judt does
<br>not work properly of maybe it is jsut like this, Pease help...
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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It's the HP200LX-assisted court report writing process that precedes the
correctional phase.

Mikhail


>
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>
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Flyers <Flyers@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> Two greens joined together both angled away from each other Ý30-45
> degrees¨ overhanging the centre to cover the screen.
> Interesting that green is the best colour!

I tried a green LED just because I thought it might get along
better with the green tint of the palmtop's screen.

> For those who don't want to use the serial port how about a little
> voltage inverter chip ÝMAXXIM EXAR Linear National¨ to raise the battery
> voltage to say 6V or so

I don't think making 6 volts from the 3 volt batteries is
necessary.  Just choose the right current limiting resistor
for the voltage range that the 2 AA batteries provide.

> Possibly pack the 2 LEDs and the voltage converter neatly in some epoxy
> as a single unit to overhang the lid with just the two wires going down
> to a slot in the battery cover

Yes, something like that.  Space the two Led's about 1/2 of
the screen width apart to get good coverage with the light
beams.  And there is enough light also shining on the keyboard
for typing.

I think I will just start off with the LED's on the end of the
serial cable and hold it myself.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:10:28 -0500
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Rian Maartens wrote:

> Just after being online with 'post' in WWW/LX plus, it crashed!!!
> In Dos the message read:
> Fatal error: No mailbox named 'Mail' found
> Exiting WWW/LX
>
> I viewed the post.cfg file in filer and the only contents
> were:
> ÝSYSTEM¨
> Error=*** News2/LX ***|Must configure default NNTP-Server!

That error message and the one from News2 were both as a
result of the corrupted POST.CFG, not the cause of it.  There
must be ÝMAIL¨ and ÝNEWS¨ sections in POST.CFG

Something corrupted your POST.CFG file big time.  I am not sure
what it was, though.  It could be because there is an error in
your file system and you ended up with some crosslinked files.
 Run  CHKDSK /F  on the drive where all of these files are.

Do you havethe latest versions of the WWW/LX Plus files?
Visit www.dasoft.com for the latest stuff.


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Vic Roberts wrote:

> I see you are living dangerously again.<g>  And this from the
> guy who cautions all of us about burning out their PCMCIA
> slots with high current draw modems!

Yes!  Do as I say and not as I do. <grin>  I like living on
the edge - going to extremes.

The digits on the volume control of my stereo used to go from
1 to 10.  I renumbered them to go up to 15 so I could play
the music louder. <grin>


Stan

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Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in the
> clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)?

Yes.  LED's use a lot less power than an incandescent lamp
does.  The LED's use about 10-20 ma while that lamp could be
drawing 60-120 ma easily.  And LED's don't get hot.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:06:06 -0800
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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For a simple solution to the lighting problem check these URLs.
http://www.action-electronics.com/photon.htm
http://www.littleriver.datasys.net/photonmicrolight.html

Colin

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> > > Please remove me from this news group.
> > > I have purchased a Palm 5, and have never had to look back.
> > > BTW, it's amazing.
> >
> > I am sure you are soon back here again- unless you are happy with a
> > simple organizer. The real power is in HP 200LX and so far I have =
seen
> > about 8 HP 200LX users, turning to PalmPilot- they ALL returned to =
the
> > 200LX after a while!!!
> >
>
> Is there a free graphical web browser for the 200LX that supports
> cookies?
>
> The simple organizer does got one.
>
As an earlier message indicated- sure it is! Then I estimated that you
have another 100,000- 200,000 programs that runs fine on the 200LX.
Maybe this estimation is low, but it's estimated that about 3,000,000
programs was written for DOS. My guess is that it's actually more than
10% of those programs that runs on the 200LX.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:55:38 +0800
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> Rian  - I would suggest that it's SC's fault. It eats too much memory.
> I've had severe destructive crashes in PostLX and in dBase, with CFG
> files wiped out, and things renamed on C: drive. I eventually got rid
> of SC and everything runs normally. And, I carry a second 200LX in my
> bag, if I really have to run several things at once.

I had these kind of problems with the earlier versions of Software
Carousel. But today I use the latest version of SC from Thaddeus Computing=
,
and not a single problem or error. It's a great software which make me
much more productive.

Regards,

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:17:31 +0100
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Chris

> > I got sent it from an ACCTON dealer. I think it was written in 1996 =
at
> > Japan. But even with Accurite we couldn't get it to work with DS.
>
> Is this available in the public domain?  Or do you have to purchase it?
> What Accton dealer provided/sold it to you?

I have no idea, if this is public. I read some time ago, that this
driver should become avaiable at the s.u.p.e.r webpage, but I haven't
seen it. I got the address from searching through the web, which
unfortunately I didn't keep.

On a hp200lx 64 MB doublespeed a complete backup of about 55 MB  does
last about 10 min. In combination with WIN3.0 it works like a
windows palmtop; it is pretty fast.

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:18:37 -0800
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Bob Meyer wrote:
>
>  I purchased Lotus 123 v2.4 on 5-1/4 used for my desktop so I could have
> the same version w/manual as the HP200LX.
>
> Any knowledge on how to change the license registration name? Better
> yet, does anyone have the pristine 123.exe file dated 04-24-92 on Disk
> One (Install) they could email?
>
> The disks are not copy protected, but once the 123.exe is registered, it
> has that person's registration embedded into the file.
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
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Hi Bob!
I have a copy of 123 rev 2.4 I will take a look and get back to you.

                        Bob Elliott Jr.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:23:41 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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That's it!!! That's the little light I have!

We should ask the makers of these little gadgets what led they used!

Philippe :)

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Subject: LED lighting made easy


> For a simple solution to the lighting problem check these URLs.
> http://www.action-electronics.com/photon.htm
> http://www.littleriver.datasys.net/photonmicrolight.html
>
> Colin
>
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Yes,  I am using the 1500mAH NiMH on my 6MB/DS 200LX and it
hasn't had it's second recharge yet!!  I bought it about a
week ago and charged it for 14hrs (as stated on the
instructions).  As for my work load on the LX, I use it for
about 1.5hrs a day so far then, I reckon I've had it on for
10.5hrs in the last week.

It doesn't come with the recommended charger though, that
however comes in a seperate bundle with 2 pairs of 1300mAH
NiMH.  I'm sure the recommended charger may well be a
gimmick but still, the promise of rechargebles that last in
my LX was too much to bear.  BTW, I paid abt S$24 for the
pack about 4mths back.

The price you listed for the pair is near spot on...I paid
about S$11(US$6.35 based on today's FOREX rates) for my pair
of batteries and as for charging it within the LX, I
wouldn't know cause I don't have the power adaptor.... :P

Hope this helps,
irVIng
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<snip>
Date:    Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:43:34 +0000
From:    slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries

Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500
mAH NiMH batteries at around US$7 per pair.  The charge time
is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these in
the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries
that I have seen. If the self-discharge rate is not
significant and the palmtop is ableto charge them, these
batteries could be very useful for our purpose.
thanks for your attention.

Anand Rao
(Not connected with  Gold Peak Industries in any way ...)
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Date sent:              Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:00:05 -0700
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> I've been using some 1500 mAH NiMH cells purchased from www.digi-key.com. They
> are Panasonic industrial generics and have a flat "+" end rather than a button.
> The button presents no problem in the HP200LX.
>

Have you compared the performance of these with Radio Shack's
NiMH's?

> I charge them at 140mA for 16 hours in an external charger. The charge rate is
> timed carefully to prevent overcharging. Panasonic does not recommend trickel
> charging but have seen other sources of NiMH that say it is O.K. I do not used
> the internal charger just to prevent an additional mechanism for failure in the
> HP200LX.
>
> Had been using Radio Shack high capacity NiCads lasting a week per charge.
> These run about three weeks per charge.
>
> Bob Meyer
> Elk Mountain WY
>
> slim1005 wrote:
>
> > Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
> > batteries at around US$7 per pair.
> >
> > The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these
> > in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
> > seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is able
> > to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.
> >
> > thanks for your attention.
> >
> > Anand Rao
> > (Not connected with  Gold Peak Industries in any way ...)
> >
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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:43:21 -0300
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Hi, i have a hp 95lx and a SanDisk CF, and i am looking for some help to
join both to work.

A D70108 (Nec V20 used in the hp95) pin out drawing, URL to info o
something .

A PCMCIA 1.0 specification.

Some technical information about the hardware inside the hp 95 (the
Intel chip, etc).

if i can make wortk the CF with the hp 95, think in the
posibilities.....

thanks

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:48:24 -0600
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I think other members of the list use Compact Flash cards in their palmtops
using a small carrier device that adapts the CF to a PCMCIA.  I recall that
these adaptors are pretty cheap, say $15 or so?  I don't know if that
helps you or not...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:56:19 -0300
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Ja!, you are right, but the adaptor is not part of the project (i have on=
e of
course),
the hp 95 does not support I/O cards ... (like the ATA flash cards), i th=
ink,
is possible to support these cards ....

"R. Christopher Lott" escribi=F3:

> I think other members of the list use Compact Flash cards in their palm=
tops
> using a small carrier device that adapts the CF to a PCMCIA.  I recall =
that
> these adaptors are pretty cheap, say $15 or so?  I don't know if that
> helps you or not...
>
> -Chris Lott
>
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>
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Hi all palmtop *and*  Windows users,

with my desktop PC (W98, PC-Card-Slot) I have copied a file with long
file-name ('apm.src.txt' , right, two '.') to my flash card (A: on my
200LX) by accident (Ed, I did not re-type your apm.scr).

Filer showed 'apmsrc.txt' as filename, so I renamed it to 'apm.src'
with Filer on the LX.

At a copy of files from C: to A:  I got an 'I/O decice-Error' message
under Filer.

'CHKDSK A:' did not indicate any error on A:, but Scandisk under W98
did indicate a 'long file name error'.

Now the interesting part:

I copied the DOS version 'scandisk.exe' (found in C:\Windows\Command\
on the PC) to my C:\BIN\ directory on the 200LX and startet it - and
it works on the palmtop!! It did indicate the 'long file name error'
on A: with the hint, that I should start Scandisk under  Windows to
remove the error. I did it and my flas card is good again.

Most important: If it can be managed to transfer such a long file
name error to the palmtops C: drive, scandisk on the palmtop could
detect the error!

Concerning licences: If you remove the DOS version of scandisk from
your PC resp. move it to the palmtop, then .....

BTW: 'scandisk /?' will list the parameters.

If the palmtop could handle all my needs, I would stay away from
MS-products, but ...  (first I have to get the 32Megs) ...

Have fun,
  Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:47:21 -0600
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> Hence my question! (G)  Obviously, there are some 'hidden' differences
> in components or something that allows some double-speed units to boot
> without the screen/speed driver and be completely legible and other
> units to be the double-blur.  And it is probably some of those same or
> similar unit differences that make a special driver needed for this
> double-slot extender to work in some but not all units.

Fred, you are beginning to sound like an overly aggressive
engineer. <g>  (Been hanging around me too long. <G>)

Ýsnip¨

> Ah. later messages seem to indicate it is actually and physically the
> SCREEN itself and not any chip or other component - interesting.  So =
can
> we tell by the telltale tints (those slight color variations everyone
> reports) which is which? (G)

Sounds like an opportunity for Hal. He can charge a slight
premium for 2X machines which have a screen that can be read
without the 2X screen driver.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:47:20 -0600
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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@addcoinc.com> wrote:
> Let's be clear on this.  The pulsing that we are referring to in this =
case
> is multiplexing.

The physics is the same for pulsing a single LED or
multiplexing multiple LED displays or multiple segments of one
display.

> The brighness percieved as truly the average brightness,

We agree here.

> but this circuit
> will never achieve peak brightness because only one digit can be =
illuminated
> at one time.

We are using different definitions if peak brightness. The way
I am using the term, every LED or display always reaches a
"peak" brightness. Just like every voltage waveform has a
"peak", "average" and "RMS" value.

> So, the average brightness can never be greater than one
> display divided by the number of displays.
>
> If you have a 10 digit display, then the average power ( and brightness =
)
> will be 1/10 that of a non multiplexed display.  So there appears to be =
a
> considerable power savings.  This is PWM in a way.  The PWM in this =
case is
> a side effect of doing the multiplexing.

The power goes down, but as you say below, the LED output also
goes down, so there is no increase in efficacy, which is
defined as average light output (measured in Lumens) divided by
average power input (measured in Watts). Therefore, it is
incorrect to say there is a "power savings" as most people
would use the term.

> At this point, since the LED output has been dimininshed, the designer =
would
> test the unit to see if was bright enough and then would probably =
consider
> designing in a higher effeciancy LED to bring the brightness back =
up....if
> that is required.
>

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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:18:39 -0800, "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@ix.netcom=
.com> wrote:

It depends upon how many cells are in the clip-on light. If it
has two cells, it provides 3 volts, which is too high for an
LED, so you would need a dropping resistor. With one cell, you
may or may not depending upon the specifications of the LED. I
am out of town, but will be able to check some LED
specifications on Monday. Or perhaps Stan will post the specs
on the Radio Shack LEDs he purchased recently. Most important
are Forward Voltage and Rated Current.

Vic Roberts


> Would you have to insert a current-limiting resistor (as mentioned in =
one
> of your subsequent e-mails)?  I would like to convert mine - brighter =
light
> for less energy; sounds like a good deal to me.
>
> tia,
>
> Claud
>
> At 06:07 PM 3/26/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@ix.netcom.com> =
wrote:
> >
> >The new LEDs should be far more efficient than the small
> >incandescant lamps used in the clip-on lamps. I am away from my
> >data books right now, so I can't give you an exact comparison.
> >
> >Vic Roberts
> >
> >> Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in =
the
> >> clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)?  I =
ahve
> >> one of these and it goes through a set of batteries fairly quickly.
> >> Doesn't seem like it would take much expertise to adapt these (even =
I could
> >> do it).  Alternatively, can the "gooseneck" and lens be purchased =
somewhere
> >> separately for use with the serial port (or cannabilized from one of =
the
> >> lights)?
> >
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This message seems to be cut off at the end. I don't know what
kind of computer garyb wants to run Kermit on. However, MS-DOS
Kermit from Columbia University runs on every MS-DOS machine I
have ever used. This includes the 95LX, 100LX and in a DOS Box
in Win 3.x and Win95. I have never tested it under Win98. (And
hope I never have to!)

Vic


> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> Date- Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:18:55 -0500
> From- garyb@greyengineering.com (Gary Bullard)
>
> Subscriber Comments: I have just receive a HP200LX and need a simple
> and effective solution to transfer survey data files to my office PC.
> What is ZAP.com prog. and where can  I download it for evaluation.  I
> have been using a HP95LX for my work until it stop communicating with
> my survey instrument.  Kermit on my DOS 6.2 PC(bought in 94) was very
> effective for my file transfers with my HP95LX.  Will Kermit work
> effectively o n a Thank you for your input!
>
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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:10:18 -0600
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              Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Chris,

I fully agree with your assessment of LED Pulsing/Multiplexing
and power savings.

> Here are some assumptions I'll be making in my example below:
>
> (a) LED brightness output is linearly proportional to forward current

I have been usnig this assumption also, but now that I am back
home I can check some data sheets.

> (b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power
>     (I'm not 100% sure this is true, but don't know enough about optics
>     and the eye response to know better).

This is correct.

> (c) The fictitious LED in my example will not be damaged as continuous
>     forward currents of 10mA

Since this is a fictitious LED, we can assume anything we want
<g>

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:36:45 -0500
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Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> I would suggest that it's SC's fault. It eats too much memory.
> I've had severe destructive crashes in PostLX and in dBase, with CFG
> files wiped out, and things renamed on C: drive

In SC's defense, I have been using it for years and was a beta
tester for it.  I have never seem any of the symptoms you
describe.

I have 5 sessions with SysMgr in 1, WWW/LX Plus in 2, acCIS
4.0 in 4 and I use #3 and #5 for misc DOS programs as needed.
I switch between #1, 2 & 4 many, many times per day with never
a corrupted file, renamed object on my C: drive or a crash
from SysMgr, Post or acCIS.


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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:16:53 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:55:54 -0500 (EST)

03h20m42s ago ...
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999, Andy wrote:

> > I've been using some 1500 mAH NiMH cells purchased from www.digi-key.c=
om.
>
> Have you compared the performance of these with Radio Shack's NiMH's?
>
> > Had been using Radio Shack high capacity NiCads lasting a week per =
charge.
> > These run about three weeks per charge.
> >
> > Bob Meyer

I haven't tried the Digi-Key NiMH cells, but have used (and been VERY
disappointed with) the RS NiMH.  I only get about the same use time
from the RS 1200 mAH NiMH as from the RS HiCap NiCd (850 mAH).  Also
the last time around with the RS NiMH, the palmtop went into backup
mode almost immediately after the "low battery" warning.  With the RS
NiCd cells, this never happened in 5 years.  If Bob gets three times
the use between charges, compared to RS Hi-Cap NiCds, from the Digi-Key
(Panasonic) NiMH, that's definitely worth trying.  BTW - with 3 weeks
between charges, it sounds like these have very low self-discharge.
Has anyone compared these to the cells from Mack and Thaddeus?

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:18:25 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> That's it!!! That's the little light I have!
>

Okay, you've convinced me, I go to the REI "flagship" store later today
when it opens! (G)

But some of those other colors sound really nice, too.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:18:33 +0000
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> Hi, i have a hp 95lx and a SanDisk CF, and i am looking for some help to
> join both to work.
>

I don't think you will be able to use these or any of the newer cards in
the hp95.  The 95 does not have the appropriate hardware or rom info to
use these cards.  While I think there may have been a driver to use one
of the first Sandisk (sundisk at that time) cards, it was very special.

Good luck.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:04:51 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: IR and WWW/LX Plus
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Martin,

> I have just registered as you know. Will I be able to upgrade to a
> version of WWW/LX which I can use with a Nokia 7110 (due july) which
> work as the modem on the Nokia 8810?

You asked me that. I cannot give that committment. I can
tell you that IR works on 8810 (several people). SH888
works in some instances but not all. Other models I do not
know, and we do not promise it, you are on your own
there... Untested and unsupported.

Good luck.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:05:02 -0800
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Martin,

> > The latest WWW.EXE has support for IR. I have it working on the Nokia
> > 8810. I heard reports of it working with the SH888. You just need
> > Port=-1 in WWW.CFG and also Baud of 38400 for double speed palmtop, 19200 for
> > single speed palmtop.

 Ý...¨

> I guess that there would be no problem getting a Hp 700 Lx to work with the new
> Nokia 7110 (not yet released due july)? Is there any differnece between the Hp
> 700 and the Hp 200 regarding ir between Nokia and Hp?

I doubt it. There is no support for the models you mention.
Sorry.

> If not this is wonderful news. I will be "upgrading" to a Nokia 7110 when it is
> released and it would be nice to have my Hp 700 "talk" to the 7110 via the
> infrared port.

I regret that we haven't the budget and manpower to test
every cellular phone with IR and confirm if it works.
Therefore, we will make the statement again: IR works with
8810 and with some SH888. All other models are unknown. The
entire topic of IR is not something that we will support,
sorry. If your phone works, terrific. If not, well... Time
to look for another phone?

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:12:58 -0300
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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is right does not have the apropiate hardware or rom info, but do you kno=
w the
ATA interface ?, is very simple, four Address lines, eight Data lines, *I=
ORD,
*IOWD and some other lines, SanDisk claims what a 8051 can manage a CF AT=
A
card , do you think can i do with a Nec V20 ?

"F. Kaufman" escribi=F3: (wrote)

> > Hi, i have a hp 95lx and a SanDisk CF, and i am looking for some help=
 to
> > join both to work.
> >
>
> I don't think you will be able to use these or any of the newer cards i=
n
> the hp95.  The 95 does not have the appropriate hardware or rom info to
> use these cards.  While I think there may have been a driver to use one
> of the first Sandisk (sundisk at that time) cards, it was very special.
>
> Good luck.
>
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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:05:42 +0200
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Hi all,

To save space on C:, you may have the same directory structure for
the built in appl.on A: f.ex. \Phone, \DBase, \Memo and so on. Then
you might want to switch fast between them using the file-select-box
(F9), ie. if you are in a phone-book on C: you want to open another
one which is on A: and vice versa.

The following system macro (Ctrl+&...) will open the file select box
to open a file, will maintain the preset path and switch from C: to
A: in the file select box and will position the cursor to the first
file in the directory.

 F9 . Return Return Right \ Pos1 Del a Return Tab

You'll see what's behind it if you enter e single dot (.) in the
filename-field of the file select box, if a non simple directory is
preselected.

Have fun,
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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:27:16 +0200
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Hi all,

Ed has come up with the Super Appl Manager - great!

I'm not shure, if MoreEXM and key200 will work together with
SupAppMgr, especially when using Ed's 'apm.com'.

Any experience till now?

I use key200 to redefine the 'Alt+Filer' -key to call up File-Tree
(lftree.exm). After I had removed the Laplink-Remote icon,
'Alt+Filer' was still starting Laplink. Instead of the Laplink Icon I
use one and only one other icon to start a DOS prgr (defined in the
AppMgr setup screen) *and* the 'Alt-Filer'-key to start the File-Tree
exm. I use a kind of 'split-icon' for that.

I do the same with 'Alt+&...': it starts the Task-List exm (using
MoreEXM and it's key definition) and an icon starts Stefan Peichls
ScanCode prgr.

Hopefully my English is not too bad (even worse my explanations?)

Have fun,
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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:03:55 +0200
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NT 4.0 Server CD provides "Clients..." which allows to setup RAS on DOS
Clients.

The installation works fine and without any errors. After reboot,
rasload works flawless. Rasphone let me dial in. When the modem training
period is finished, the modem connection is closed and an error pops up
saying:

There are no computernames registered to ASYBEUI, Type F1 for more
information.

F1 tells, contact your admin... abd check you lanman.ini...
protocol.ini etc. I am complete lost.

Any idea what to do next, in order to get it to work? I need to make it
work on a 80-186.

Regards

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              Perwein Andreas <perwein@AON.AT>
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Where (WWW) can I find good CE Software for my
HP 620 LX ?

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:06:31 -0800
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              Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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I have a Pentax pocketjet and would like to trade it for PN60i (I was too
late in getting the deal from Microwarehouse last year). Here is the
condition: the parallel printer cable connector molding on the pocketjet
side is broken (it still fits and works fine). Also, the battery does not
seem to hold current. Therefore, I will add $75 (new battery + pentax
serial cable for HP200LX) for the trade. In fact, I have ordered the
serial cable for HP200LX already and waiting for the arrival. Frankly, I
think PN60i works better for HP200LX (that's why I am try to trade), but
if you don't like your PN60i and want to try Pocketjet, please drop me an
e-mail.

If no one wants the trade, I will just sell it as it is (without serial
cable) later.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:05:50 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              Roberts" at Mar 28, 99 07:47:20 am
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> It depends upon how many cells are in the clip-on light. If it
> has two cells, it provides 3 volts, which is too high for an
> LED, so you would need a dropping resistor. With one cell, you
> may or may not depending upon the specifications of the LED.

And depending on the specification of the cell.  With only one cell,
and low internal resistance, one could easily damage an LED.  Not
knowing much about various common cell chemistries and their
characteristics, you may well be practically correct in your
statement - i.e., all common cells have sufficiently high enough internal
resistance to propely current limit for most LEDs.  But I would have
to research this further ...  in my copious free time  8-)

-Chris


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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:17:46 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
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              "Stanley Dobrowski" at Mar 28, 99 09:36:45 am
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> In SC's defense, I have been using it for years and was a beta
> tester for it.  I have never seem any of the symptoms you
> describe.

Perhaps as such a seasoned SC expert, you can explain some strange
behaviour I'm having with SSC I recently upgraded to.  The most
alarming problem I see are (a) when I try to execute the batch file
that calls LOAD123.COM, my machine locks up but good, and (b) when
I run the SCMENU program from plain DOS (as the manual says I should
be able to do) the machine similarly locks up.  As I said, these are
the most annoying and alarming.

Less alarming, but equally puzzling, is the strange observations about
my TSRs.  I'm working on the balance between what ones I load pre-SC
and which ones post-SC in the individual work areas.  In one instance,
I only load the x2 driver and r32swap pre-SC, and load everything else
post-SC in a file HP.BAT which gets invoked in WA#1.  As long as the
SYSMGR is running, all seems well.  I can even launch into DOS using
CTRL-123, and see all my TSRs and environment variables.  BUT, when I
terminate SYSMGR in this WA, the resulting DOS session doesn't have
my TSRs loaded, yet it has the environment variables set!

Have you ever run into these or similar problems during your beta
testing?  I'm determined to make this work.  I set aside my first
version of SC for the palmtop about 6 mos ago, because it was causing
so many problems.  I later found that some of the problems were un-
related to SC, but never got it back installed.  Now that I've up-graded
to the latest version of SC from Thaddeus, I'm gonna figure things
out completely and get it running.

Finally, I tried last night to install the resource pool as expanded
memory as some had suggested on the list.  When I tried to run the
instemm program, I was told that there wasn't enough memory to hold
my directory buffers.  I guess I have too much stuff on my C drive.
BUT... if I've already optimized the C drive with the SC program,
is there anyway to manually define a swap file for tremm's use
without running the instemm program?

-Chris Lott


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I have an upgraded (32meg) palmtop. I am using Super Software Carousel.
Beyond the applications that were installed by Thaddeus for SSC, I've
never been able to get other programs to run i.e. Dictionary, Spanish,
etc... I always get a message that there is not enough memory. I know
that this is just lack of knowledge on my part as it works for others.
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> > In SC's defense, I have been using it for years and was a beta
> > tester for it.  I have never seem any of the symptoms you
> > describe.
>
> Perhaps as such a seasoned SC expert, you can explain some strange
> behaviour I'm having with SSC I recently upgraded to.  The most
...

You have to remember, this is a **DOS** pc; running SC doesn't
change that.  If multiple programs are in memory (and that
includes anything you're currently running under SC) then ALL of
the memory space is accesable which means your programs can
possibly write where they aren't supposed to and clobber SC.
This would be the programs fault even if it wasn't obvious when
running under vanilla DOS.  That still doesn't help you as you
won't be able to run that program under SC but it help explain
why SC may not be at fault and yet still be unusable in your
particular environment.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:10:54 +0000
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> Okay, here's the information on the camping LED light I found at REI:

I tended to like the blue light with my screen.  But not being able to
pass up a cute, neat "camping" item, I also got red and white.  The red
will be good for reading the star chart and not messing up night vision.
Hmmm, how patriotic!!!!

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:31:18 -0500
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Alejandro Paz wrote:

> i have a hp 95lx and a SanDisk CF, and i am looking for some help to
> join both to work ... if i can make wortk the CF with the hp 95,
> think in the posibilities

ACE Technologies got flash cards to work in the 95LX with
their driver (ACECARD).  I have not fiddled with the 95 in a
long time and doubt I have that driver any more.  Also, I
don't know if that ACE driver would work with the newer flash
cards.  But it is certainly worth a try.


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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:31:20 -0500
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Vic Roberts wrote:

> Or perhaps Stan will post the specs
> on the Radio Shack LEDs he purchased recently. Most important
> are Forward Voltage and Rated Current

As you requested:

Radio Shack #276-206, Orange Jumbo High Brightness LED, 12000
mcd, Vforward=1.9v typ/2.6v max, Iforward=20ma, wavelength=620
nm.

#276-309, Wide Angle Red LED, 800 mcd, Vf=1.7v typ/2.4v max,
wavelength=660 nm.

#276-303, Low-current Wide Angle Green LED, Vf=2.1 typ/2.8v
max, If=2ma, wavelength=565 nm.

All of the LED's draw about 12 ma, even the ones rated at 2ma.
 The green color worked best with the green screen of the
palmtop.


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Date Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:37:45 -0500

From elec1@hanmail.net (jung jaehoon)

> Subscriber Comments: I am using HP200LX 2MB PALMTOP COMPUTER.But I
> can't install windows2.0 and excel 2.0 in my pc. I want to know how to
> install these program to my pc exactly. Please wish your kind answer.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:13:44 -0500
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Hi,

I have an HP200LX 2 MB SN - SG6xxxxxx (1996) for sale along with all =
manuals, Connectivity Pack (w/o Cable), and a Zoom 14.4 kbps modem for =
sale.  I'd like to get $235.00 for the package plus $10.00 UPS Grountrac =
shipping.

The SG6 units can be upgraded to 6 MB quite easly.  I have 2 5MB units =
and don't need this one.

Thanks,

Bill

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:43:02 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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My experience with Radio Shack batteries is that they last many recharges
but the capacity is not up to other brands. Example: my Norelco shaver that
I've had for nearly 25 years using sub Cs. I've used 2 or 3 replacement RS
sub C's over the years. New fully charged, run times:

  Original batteries -- 21 days.
  Radio Shack -- 14 days.
  Panasonic high capacity from DigiKey -- 50 days.

Consumer Reports seems to favor Panasonics. My 1500 mAH from DigiKey are
Panasonics. Have not tried the 1300 mAH variety. My thought was to get the
most capacity.

My AA's running for 1 week in the HP200LX were RS 850 mAH.
Again, I get about 3 weeks out of the Panasonic 1500mAH.

Charging info for a constant current charge:

  1.4 x 1500mAH
  ------------- = 15 hours
      140mA

Before I purchased the cells, I tried to figure out how to charge them. I
found some info on www4.web2010.com/thomas-distributing/ (sorry, I don't
know how to make links in my email yet) on charging. Seems like trickle
charge is OK. Panasonic does not recommend it although reading between the
lines of some of their info seems to indicate that it is OK. I think one
wants to avoid overcharging them like the plague!!

Rapid type charging requires monitoring temperature and how much energy has
gone back into the cell.

It would be interesting to hear other experiences with the AA cells,
expecially all the new high capacity cells. Are NiCads obsolete?

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:46:49 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I tried 123 v2.4 on my desktops, one a Pentium 233MMX and an IBM AT with
EGA.
Been using 2.01 for years. Have not tried wysiwyg with CGA although it
would
be fun to do it. the wysiwyg and smart icons are apparantly add-ins. If
there
is real interest, I suppose I could try it.

Peter Maddern wrote:

> Bob
>
> Interesting. Does this mean you have version 2.4 with wysiwyg working on
> your 200LX? I thought it couldn't be done!!
>
> Peter
>
> In message , Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> writes
> > I purchased Lotus 123 v2.4 on 5-1/4 used for my desktop so I could have
> >the same version w/manual as the HP200LX.
> >
> >Any knowledge on how to change the license registration name? Better
> >yet, does anyone have the pristine 123.exe file dated 04-24-92 on Disk
> >One (Install) they could email?
> >
> >The disks are not copy protected, but once the 123.exe is registered, it
> >has that person's registration embedded into the file.
> >
> >Bob Meyer
> >bmeyer@union-tel.com
> >Elk Mountain WY
> >
>
> Dr Peter Maddern
> Technical Manager
> North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:58:39 -0700
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Replace the file on Disk 1 (Install)

  123.exe dated 04/24/92 1:23a

with an unregistered file. That should fix you up. I may have seen other
dates depending on the disk size but I may be thinking of Word Perfect. I
am sending you 123.exe and also 123.set just in case a separate email
zipped up to retain the dates. I tried contacting Lotus with several phone
calls. Never could get anywhere. I don't think they know what v2.4 is! Let
me know if you still have problems.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> I, too,came up with a copy of Lotus 123 v 2.4 in the garbage bin at
> work about 2 years ago.  It is registered to the InfoServices
> supervisor. There does not seem to be anyway to remove that errant
> registration. Ages ago, someone said Lotus had a method to "fix" it but
> when I contacted them, they could not help.
>
> While I just ignored the wrong name, it would be nice to get rid of it.
>
> Might you share the method you found.
>
> Fred Kaufman

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:05:04 +0800
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              Hermann Michael Blum <blums@MAGIX.COM.SG>
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Cons:   -not as handy (thicker, longer)
        -by 3rd parties not as broadly supported as 200LX (incl. memory/speed
upgrades)
        -hinge not sticky (cover becomes too heavy when phone plugged in),
therefore viewing-angle         not adjustable
         -setup of blue application buttons slightly different - some 200LX
programs referring to these buttons need therefore to be adjusted - was
easily possible for all programs I use (otherwise fully compatible)


Pros:   -LEDs in front show you low battery/past appointment alarm even if
you do not start machine
        -Built in SMS let me create/store and send messages to other handphones
without any efforts (realized only recently how effective this is to get
in touch/pass on important messages; quicker response than email)
        -LX starts the phone and sends phonebook data to establish connection with
one keystroke from within phonebook
        -uses same charger as phone (travel light; Nokia travel charger as handy
as HP's for the 200LX), charges both the LX as well as the phone at the
same time (phone plugged in to the LX) so you save one charger
        -built in smartcharge program seems to work along the lines of ABC or
similar programs. Batteries last clearly longer than when charged in 200LX
        -built in fax by far most mobile fax solution I have come across so far
(apart from Nokia Communicator, which is in other aspects inferior to the
LX). Since GSM autoroaming is   available in most countries I travel I can
receive faxes witout any hardware/software modifications/routines directly
upon arrival. Sending features however rudimentary (plain ASCII) as
usually in LX fax programs, bought recently DOSFAX, wait for a calm weekend
day to install it.

My Conclusion: The main adventages of the 700 are important when away from
the office, therefore I use my 200LX when staying at home (no need for
mobile communication) and the 700LX when travelling (here it became
indispensable to me). Machines are so compatible that I just shift the
flash memory card (160 MB simple tech) where all my programs/data are on
(on C drive I only have the configuration files and the EMS swap file in
use).

Kind regards

H M Blum
----------
> From: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Opinions on the HP700LX?
> Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 9:04 AM
>
> Ok, what's the deal with the HP700LX? The pros and cons? Looks pretty
nice
> to me, but I have a feeling there's something that doesn't bring it up to
> 200LX standards...
>
> Give me the dirt!
>
> Thanks! Much appreciated!
>
> Philippe :)
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:59:26 +0800
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              Hermann Michael Blum <blums@MAGIX.COM.SG>
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I made the experience that TSR programs and drivers have a tendency to
crash the machine if you combine them even though they work flawlessly by
itself. So I experienced several times a loss of
phonebook/notebook/appointment and memo files when the Doubleslot driver
was loaded together with all the other already existing TSR's/Drivers
(actually once I had a long memo file reduced to a lenghts of 0 bytes, i.
e. empty which reminds me to what was recently described on this list as
the lost NDB file). I then started to only boot into the basic
configuration for the environment I'm ging to use next (time lost by
process not an issue for
me) and the phenomenon stopped immediately. Not to be mistaken: The
doubleslot by itself works great for me (drives and externally powers a 131
MB PCMCIA III Maxtor harddisk for backup).

Smartcharge is one of the features I like in the 700LX since it improved
the charging routine of the 200LX clearly. No specific problems here so
far.

Kind regards

H M Blum
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> From: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Why dos my Hp 700 Lx chrash with this setup?
> Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 8:37 AM

> Well my problem is this: My hp chrashes after a few seconds entering the
> sysmgr with the line "call d:\bin\smartchg.com in the Autoexec.bat. If I
> rem this line everything works great. Why is this?
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:38:54 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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Only tech-heads should read on...

Christopher and Vic agree that :

(b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power

Sorry, but I have to stop lurking to throw a little disagreement into the
discussion.

About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we wanted to get
more brightness from LEDs.  There was an application note (I believe from
HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye
perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous light of the same
average power.  You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid
flicker.

The app note claimed that providing the average power dissipation was not
exceeded, the lifetime would not be impaired.  (i.e. lifetime is
proportional to temperature and not to peak current;  this is also the
assumption behind normal multiplexing of matrix displays)

We made experiments (that could easily be repeated) that comprised a power
MOSFET driving a LED and a pulse generator controlling the MOSFET gate.
Alongside we had a LED driven from a conventional power source.  When we
adjusted things so the brightness of both LEDs was equal, the average power
consumption from the pulsed LED was a lot less - by a factor of several
times less.  The higher the peak current (and the lower the corresponding
duty cycle) the more pronounced the effect, but 1 amp pulses for some
microseconds made driving the mosfet gate capacitance difficult.

If you try this at home, take care to measure the average consumption of
the pulsed power!  Moving coil multilmeters and digital multimeters both
respond inaccurately to pulsed currents, so for example, use a series
resistor in the power supply with a big decoupling capacitor.

Good luck,
Jez

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:56:43 +0200
Reply-To:     -goe- <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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> Subscriber Comments: I am using HP200LX 2MB PALMTOP COMPUTER.But I
> can't install windows2.0 and excel 2.0 in my pc. I want to know how to
> install these program to my pc exactly. Please wish your kind answer.

I installed Excel 2.1c on a desktop with plain DOS. The setup program realizes,
that there is no windows and installs a runtime-version. So you can start Excel
directly from DOS. Here are the installed files of the german version (I don't
know, if each of them are really necessary):

 Directory of E:\EXCEL

.            <DIR>     03-05-99   1:46p
..           <DIR>     03-05-99   1:46p
ABLAGE   EXE     10560 03-05-99   1:46p
ANSI     EXE     15179 03-05-99   1:46p
COURA    FON     14144 03-05-99   1:46p
COURC    FON     13040 03-05-99   1:46p
COURE    FON     23808 03-05-99   1:46p
EPSON24  DRV     50256 03-05-99   1:47p
EXCEL    EXE    617120 03-05-99   1:49p
EXCELDE  EXE     87792 03-05-99   1:50p
EXCELHLP HLP    394592 03-05-99   1:52p
HELVA    FON     36768 03-05-99   1:52p
HELVC    FON     38960 03-05-99   1:52p
HELVE    FON     64784 03-05-99   1:52p
HIMEM    SYS      6340 03-05-99   1:52p
MEMSET   EXE     42215 03-05-99   1:53p
MODERN   FON      7584 03-05-99   1:53p
PREV     FON      9936 03-05-99   1:53p
ROMAN    FON     11120 03-05-99   1:53p
SCRIPT   FON     10304 03-05-99   1:53p
SPOOLER  EXE     14560 03-05-99   1:53p
SYSTEMST EXE     63264 03-05-99   1:54p
TMSRA    FON     35392 03-05-99   1:54p
TMSRC    FON     37824 03-05-99   1:54p
TMSRE    FON     58304 03-05-99   1:54p
TRANS    EXE    150400 03-05-99   1:55p
TRANS123 XLM     18987 03-05-99   1:55p
TRANSMP  XLM     17401 03-05-99   1:55p
WIN      INI      3121 03-05-99   3:23p
WIN200   BIN    210752 03-05-99   1:56p
WIN200   OVL    214688 03-05-99   1:57p
       35 file(s)    2385410 bytes

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:44:36 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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hi,
where can I have more information about the 700LX.
i have  2 HP200LX and I need to use a mobile phone.
I thought it will be more easy to have a 700LX.

do you have a serial port with the 700LX ?
can you use carousel?

!!!!! can you connect a portable hand free set ?????
How expensive are they??

regards


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:08:48 +0100
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I know that several HPLX-ers are using GPS units, so I thought this may be of
interest.

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From:                   Yves Remedios <yves@remedios.freeserve.co.uk>
To:                     orange@mcc.ac.uk
Subject:                ÝORANGE¨ GPS Week Number Rollover Approaches!
Date sent:              Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:47:54 +0000

Although this is not phone related, I thought this would be of general interest to the gadget freeks amongst us.  I found it in today's EPOC Times:
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Source: News Submission, Boris Alcaraz (5 Alive Researcher)

Miscellaneous News

The GPS Week Number count began at approximately midnight on the evening of 05 January 1980 / morning of 06 January 1980. Since that time, the count has been incremented by 1 each week, and broadcast as part of the GPS message. The GPS Week Number field is modulo 1024. This means that at the
completeion of week 1023, the GPS week number will rollover to 0 on midnight of the evening of 21 August 1999 / morning of 22 August 1999.

Once the rollover has occured, it is the responsibility of the user (i.e., user equipment or software) to account for the previous 1024 weeks.

Depending upon the manufacturer of your GPS receiver, you may or may not be effected by the GPS Week Number Rollover on 22 August 1999. Some receivers may display inaccurate date information, some may also calculate incorrect navigation solutions.

Contact the manufacturer of your GPS receiver to determine if you will be effected by the GPS week number rollover.

More information available from:

http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/gps_week.html
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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:32:59 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: LED pulsing (again)

Jez Cunningham writes:
>
> We made experiments (that could easily be repeated) that comprised a power
> MOSFET driving a LED and a pulse generator controlling the MOSFET gate.
> Alongside we had a LED driven from a conventional power source.  When we
> adjusted things so the brightness of both LEDs was equal, the average power
> consumption from the pulsed LED was a lot less - by a factor of several
> times less.

Oh no!  Now you've done it.  How can we carry on our nice
theoretical debate when you've thrown *data* into the mix!?

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:09:22 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <H000009708a52e64@MHS> from "Jez Cunningham" at Mar 29,
              99 09:38:54 am
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> Christopher and Vic agree that :
>
> (b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power
>
> Sorry, but I have to stop lurking to throw a little disagreement into the
> discussion.

Christopher was a little uncomfortable about this decision, but I admit
to a lack of knowledge in this area to have an informed opinion.

> About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we wanted to get
> more brightness from LEDs.  There was an application note (I believe from
> HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye
> perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous light of the same
> average power.  You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid
> flicker.

I would love to get a copy of that note.  HP has a pretty good web site with
archived app notes, I think I'll go see what I can find.  Thanks for the
input...

-Chris Lott




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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:12:40 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blasdel_R Ýmailto:dlr.pub.grp@MEDIASOFT.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 7:16 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 2nd 200LX - Which Program?
>
>
> Just got a 2nd 200LX, it came with HP Connectivity Pack and
> Puma's IntelliSync.
>
> 1.) Any favorites of the two? Or maybe go with Transfile?
>

Hi,

I use Intellisync along with Lotus Organizer 2.1.  Together they sync the HP
PIMs very well.  Of course, it's not MS Outlook, but I am trying to move
away from MS applications.

I got my Lotus Organizer 2.1 at Comp USA for $9.95 about a month ago and it
appears to have just about everything Outlook has except Email and News.

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:27:49 +0800
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              Hermann Michael Blum <blums@MAGIX.COM.SG>
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> From: Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Opinions on the HP700LX?
> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 4:44 AM
>
> hi,
> where can I have more information about the 700LX.

http://www.thaddeus.com/p24/p2400021.htm   (first of course our trusted LX
source)
http://hpcc940.external.hp.com/pressrel/feb96/20feb96e.htm
http://members.aol.com/liamproven/hp700.htm   (critical discussion, for me
in some points too negative)
http://www.nokia.com/news/news_htmls/nmp_960219.html
http://www.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de/pdavl/hp/omnigo700lx.html
http://www.dispatches.demon.net/issue4/10.html
http://gicom.de/gicom/produkte/hp700lx.htm   (German)

> do you have a serial port with the 700LX ?
same as 200LX, IR as well

> can you use carousel?
have not tried - should be the same as 200LX

> !!!!! can you connect a portable hand free set ?????
No. What I do: let LX initialise connection then plug the phone out of LX
and into hand free set (since LX cradle leads the phone's way you do not
have to look at it when putting it back into the LX. Technically it should
be possible to have a parallel printer port like loop through connection to
get the hand free signal into the phone at the same time.

> How expensive are they??

Originally promoted for ca. S$ 1,500,-- (~US 900.--) I saw recently a stock
clearance for S$ 1.200.--. Used ones are regularly offered on internet (e.
g. Rundel).

Kind regards

H M Blum

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:37:06 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Jez,

I thank you for saying so eloquently what I was trying to say.


Jon Carson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jez Cunningham Ýmailto:Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR¨
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 1999 1:39 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: LED pulsing (again)
>
>
> Only tech-heads should read on...
>
> Christopher and Vic agree that :
>
> (b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power
>
> Sorry, but I have to stop lurking to throw a little
> disagreement into the
> discussion.
>
> About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we
> wanted to get
> more brightness from LEDs.  There was an application note (I
> believe from
> HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye
> perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous
> light of the same
> average power.  You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid
> flicker.
>
> The app note claimed that providing the average power
> dissipation was not
> exceeded, the lifetime would not be impaired.  (i.e. lifetime is
> proportional to temperature and not to peak current;  this is also the
> assumption behind normal multiplexing of matrix displays)
>
> We made experiments (that could easily be repeated) that
> comprised a power
> MOSFET driving a LED and a pulse generator controlling the
> MOSFET gate.
> Alongside we had a LED driven from a conventional power
> source.  When we
> adjusted things so the brightness of both LEDs was equal, the
> average power
> consumption from the pulsed LED was a lot less - by a factor
> of several
> times less.  The higher the peak current (and the lower the
> corresponding
> duty cycle) the more pronounced the effect, but 1 amp pulses for some
> microseconds made driving the mosfet gate capacitance difficult.
>
> If you try this at home, take care to measure the average
> consumption of
> the pulsed power!  Moving coil multilmeters and digital
> multimeters both
> respond inaccurately to pulsed currents, so for example, use a series
> resistor in the power supply with a big decoupling capacitor.
>
> Good luck,
> Jez
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:15:13 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Wrong mailing list, but try http://www.thaddeus.com or
http://www.palmtop.net .

Good luck!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perwein Andreas ÝSMTP:perwein@AON.AT¨
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 11:53 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Hy!
>
> Where (WWW) can I find good CE Software for my
> HP 620 LX ?
>
> Thank you!
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:14:57 +0200
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I refer to Rocky's idea below, unfortunately I was not able
to make it work. When I open ClipVue I notice Load and Save
F-keys but when I press them they do not bring up any
file-browse menu to choose a file to either load from or
save to. Has anyone got some other ideas?

Rian Maartens

> Message text written by INTERNET:maartens@IAFRICA.COM
> >I would like to copy between the various 'Palmtops' of Super
> Software Carousel on the HP200Lx.<
>
> You could try using ClipVue which allows you to save your clipboard to =
a
> file. Once in a new session of Software Carousel you can use ClipVue to
> reload into the clipboard.
> Hope this helps!
>
> Rocky
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:14:54 +0200
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> CLARIFICATION:
>
> > I just figured this out.  I was running low on memory, and apparently
> > the screen isn't saved in this case.
>
> By "low on memory", I was referring to the SC resource pool.  As I
> re-read my post, I realized that I hadn't been clear on this.
>
> -Chris
Thanks Chris,
I increased my resource pool size and now I don't have the
vertical lines any more. I hope this was the problem and that
it is sorted out permanently!!
Rian Maartens



>
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Mike Little wrote:

> The GPS Week Number field is modulo 1024. This means that at the
> completeion of week 1023, the GPS week number will rollover to 0
> on midnight of the evening of 21 August 1999 / morning of 22
> August 1999

I just checked with the Garmin web site and my model GPS III
and my other one, the 12XL are both Y2K and week rollover
compliant.


Stan

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Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR> wrote:

> do you know the
> ATA interface ?, is very simple, four Address lines, eight Data lines, *IORD,
> *IOWD and some other lines, SanDisk claims what a 8051 can manage a CF ATA
> card , do you think can i do with a Nec V20 ?

I don't think it is that simple.  The ATA flash card interface
is the same as an IDE (also know at ATA) hard disk interface.
The PCMCIA 1.0 standard that is in the HP95LX should be
published someplace so that you can look it up.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:46:06 -0600
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Have you tried the Kermit support in the built-in communication program?

Phil

> I have just receive a HP200LX and need a simple
> and effective solution to transfer survey data files to my office PC.
> What is ZAP.com prog. and where can  I download it for evaluation.  I
> have been using a HP95LX for my work until it stop communicating with
> my survey instrument.  Kermit on my DOS 6.2 PC(bought in 94) was very
> effective for my file transfers with my HP95LX.  Will Kermit work
> effectively o n a Thank you for your input!
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:04:08 -0500
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              Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
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You are both correct. The hardware interface is quite simple. Since it is
asynchronous, most any processor can handle it. The software protocol takes
some work to do.

There are a series of 50 or so commands that you must send over this
interface to do all the things you want. This is what's defined by the ATA
(IDE) protocol. That's what's non-trivial.

Documentation for this protocol is freely available on the net - just do a
search and you'll find it.

rick


>Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR> wrote:
>
>> do you know the
>> ATA interface ?, is very simple, four Address lines, eight Data lines,
*IORD,
>> *IOWD and some other lines, SanDisk claims what a 8051 can manage a CF
ATA
>> card , do you think can i do with a Nec V20 ?
>
>I don't think it is that simple.  The ATA flash card interface
>is the same as an IDE (also know at ATA) hard disk interface.
>The PCMCIA 1.0 standard that is in the HP95LX should be
>published someplace so that you can look it up.
>
>
>Stan

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:46:21 -0330
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Date sent:              Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:43:02 -0700
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Subject:                Re: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> My experience with Radio Shack batteries is that they last many recharges
> but the capacity is not up to other brands. Example: my Norelco shaver that
> I've had for nearly 25 years using sub Cs. I've used 2 or 3 replacement RS
> sub C's over the years. New fully charged, run times:
>
>   Original batteries -- 21 days.
>   Radio Shack -- 14 days.
>   Panasonic high capacity from DigiKey -- 50 days.
>
> Consumer Reports seems to favor Panasonics. My 1500 mAH from DigiKey are
> Panasonics. Have not tried the 1300 mAH variety. My thought was to get the
> most capacity.
>

Say, is this in line with others experiences?

And, Bob, what recharger do you use?  Do you use Radio Shack's 1 hour recharger?

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:10:32 -0800
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> -by 3rd parties not as broadly supported as 200LX (incl. memory/speed
> upgrades)

Some people have said it's not possible to upgrade memory/speed on the
700LX. Is this true?

Philippe :)

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:20:55 -0500
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Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:56:49 -0500 (EST)

02h41m52s ago ...
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Rian Maartens wrote:

> I refer to Rocky's idea below, unfortunately I was not able
> to make it work. When I open ClipVue I notice Load and Save
> F-keys but when I press them they do not bring up any
> file-browse menu to choose a file to either load from or
> save to. Has anyone got some other ideas?

     ClipVue saves data from the Clipboard into c:\_dat\clipvue.txt. To
use, you must first save data to the clipboard (Fn. or Fn=3D) then
execute the ClipVue.exm. The cilpboard text will show up in the window.
F2(SAVE) stores to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt. Switch to another SC workarea,
then copy from the file c:\_dat\clipvue.txt, or if you are running
SysMan, you can execute ClipVue again and hit F3(LOAD) and then use
Fn+(PASTE) to pase into you SysMan App.

     I use ClipVue to insert data in & out of PALEdit which I spawn
from POST/LX in my WorkArea#2.

HTH


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> I refer to Rocky's idea below, unfortunately I was not able
> to make it work. When I open ClipVue I notice Load and Save
> F-keys but when I press them they do not bring up any
> file-browse menu to choose a file to either load from or
> save to. Has anyone got some other ideas?


Clipvue has a default filename (I don't recall if you can change it)
clipvue.txt.  So the clipboard either gets saved to or loaded from that
file.  Use it as an intermediary file to move data around.

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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Software Carousel problems
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BTW, I changed the subject of this thread to be more
appropriate.

"R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> Perhaps as such a seasoned SC expert, you can explain some strange
> behaviour I'm having with SSC I recently upgraded to

Well, I have used it a lot, but I wouldn't call me a seasoned
expert.  <grin>

> The most
> alarming problem I see are (a) when I try to execute the batch file
> that calls LOAD123.COM, my machine locks up but good

I haven't used LOAD123, so I am not much help.  It sounds like
a program to lauch Lotus 123 for use in a SC session by
itself.  How is it supposed to be run?  Maybe there is a
problem with you running SysMgr in two sessions at the same
time?

> I run the SCMENU program from plain DOS (as the manual says I should
> be able to do) the machine similarly locks up

You need to have SC running and then you run SCMENU in one of
the sessions at the plain DOS prompt.  Also, there is a SC hot
key for SCMENU, have you tried using that?

> Less alarming, but equally puzzling, is the strange observations about
> my TSRs.  I'm working on the balance between what ones I load pre-SC
> and which ones post-SC in the individual work areas

TSR's and drivers can be troublesome with SC.  Ones loaded
before SC will apply to all of the sessions and remove
available RAM from all sessions.  Ones loaded in a session
will only apply to that session.  SC digs quite deep into the
hooks for the interrupts and keyboard handlers, etc, so there
may just be some TSR and drivers that don't work with SC - in
or outside of it.  Or it may run inside/not ouside or visa
versa.

> In one instance,
> I only load the x2 driver and r32swap pre-SC, and load everything else
> post-SC in a file HP.BAT which gets invoked in WA#1

That makes sense.  The 2x driver is essential all of the time.
 And the r32swap is the same.  You don't want to have drive
letters changing in different work sessions - if that would
even work.  But none of those TSR's and drivers would be
present in any other work session.

> As long as the
> SYSMGR is running, all seems well.  I can even launch into DOS using
> CTRL-123, and see all my TSRs and environment variables.  BUT, when I
> terminate SYSMGR in this WA, the resulting DOS session doesn't have
> my TSRs loaded, yet it has the environment variables set!

For example, what TSR's are you loading in HP.BAT before
running SysMgr?  I assume that the  200  command is just about
the last line in your HP.BAT file?  TSR's and drivers loaded
before SC will not show up in a  MEM /C  listing because they
are hiding on the other side of SC out of sight of the work
session areas.  What are some of the environmental variables
you are refering to?  Some of them cross over the boundry from
outside SC to inside and some don't, I think.

> Have you ever run into these or similar problems during your beta
> testing?  I'm determined to make this work

I will be happy to work with you any way I can here on this
list so that everyone can chip in to help and/or benefit from
whatever we figure out.  I don't know some of the specific
things you asked about and need to know more info about some
other stuff, but I have seen lots of trouble with TSR's and
drivers.  It is just the nature of the beast - SC and TSR's
and drivers are usually making DOS do stuff it was no really
designed for.  It usually comes down to playing with the order
of the loads relative to inside and outside of SC.

Perhaps if you trimmed down your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
files and your HP.BAT file to remove blank lines and extra
comments and post them here for review and comment.

> I tried last night to install the resource pool as expanded
> memory as some had suggested on the list

Perhaps you should wait and try using Expanded memory later
when you have SC running in a simpler configuration first.
Don't try to do too many things at once.  I still don't bother
with EMM and just have a permanent swap file on C:.

> When I tried to run the
> instemm program, I was told that there wasn't enough memory to hold
> my directory buffers

What is your FILES= and BUFFERS= in CONFIG.SYS?


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Hi Chris,

<<Perhaps as such a seasoned SC expert, you can explain some strange
behaviour I'm having with SSC I recently upgraded to.  The most
alarming problem I see are (a) when I try to execute the batch file
that calls LOAD123.COM, my machine locks up but good, and (b) when
I run the SCMENU program from plain DOS (as the manual says I should
be able to do) the machine similarly locks up.  As I said, these are
the most annoying and alarming.>>

I don't know if this helps, but remember the SSC set up is different
than the SC setup. If you want to do the tutorial in the manual, I
suggest you temporarily install a 2nd copy the way it describes in the
manual, adjusting your autoexec.bat file accordingly.  When finished, go
back to the SSC setup.

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I have also found the Radio Shack NiCd and NiMH betteries to
be inferior.  I stopped using them and went back to my 1200
mah NiMH batteries from Shier that I have been using for 38
(yes, thirty-eight) months.  They are still going strong.


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Hello,

who knows about interesting sources of information that deal with HP
Solve together with Lotus 1-2-3? Solver has some intesting functions to
deal with 1-2-3 but I lack any idea about how to use them both together
(the German User's Guide isn't of much help here).

Specifically, the design intention seems that HP Solve can make use of
1-2-3, but not vice versa? I wonder if 1-2-3 can somehow make use of HP
Solver, perhaps via System Macros.

I am a long time user of the 200LX, mostly 1-2-3 applications for
shareholder purposes, and like to get some ideas on how HP Solve can be
of help here.

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Four cons from me: No Lotus 1-2-3 manual! I haven't seen a 123 manual for
the last 5 years at least, not at auctions, flea markets, nothing... A list
of macro commands is sorely missed. But I was lucky, got hold of a HP95LX,
the 95LX manual had a good 123 manual. It has been sometime since the Lotus
spreadsheet was king and expecting LX buyers to be Lotus knowledgeable is a
bit much, I think.

The other one is too little memory, only 2 MB! One wonders why. I seem to
think that 4 MB 200LXs had been made. And here is a model that is supposed
to handle faxes and sms in addition to the standard 200LX apps.

And then there is no backlight...

Last con is the phone. My 2110 lasts about 24 hours on standby. Nowadays
phones last a week on standby!

>        -by 3rd parties not as broadly supported as 200LX (incl.
memory/speed
>upgrades)


There does exist a speed upgrade, the memory upgrade is supposedly not
possible. Rundel in Germany does the speed upgrade.


>        -hinge not sticky (cover becomes too heavy when phone plugged in),
>therefore viewing-angle         not adjustable

This is really somewhere where they (HP) made a mistake in the design. Seems
like a last second descision... The clam's leg support too. Must have been
smoking the local vegetation... But the screen angle is perfect for on the
table.


>Pros:   -LEDs in front show you low battery/past appointment alarm even if
>you do not start machine

Very nice!

>        -Built in SMS let me create/store and send messages to other
handphones
>without any efforts (realized only recently how effective this is to get
>in touch/pass on important messages; quicker response than email)

Great thing, SMS. People can set up their phone to route to an answering
service, but the sms goes directly to the phone. If they turn their phone
off, as soon as they turn their phone on the message will be transferred. If
they are at a meeting it can be a good way to pass messages in and out of
the meeting. I really like SMS, pity the manufactures don't include a small
calculator ASCII pad, something small like the keypads on Casio watches. SMS
on the phone and on the LX are two totally different environments, and the
phone sucks! :-)

>        -built in fax by far most mobile fax solution I have come across so
far
>upon arrival. Sending features however rudimentary (plain ASCII) as

One can insert graphics I think, seem to have read something about &pcx
somewhere in the manual. One thing I don't like is that one has too have the
fax application open, and ready to receive a fax. This drains the battery,
they should have made it so that when the phone detected a fax the fax app
automagically popped up.

>My Conclusion: The main adventages of the 700 are important when away from
>the office, therefore I use my 200LX when staying at home (no need for
>mobile communication) and the 700LX when travelling (here it became
>indispensable to me). Machines are so compatible that I just shift the

Same here really. They do complement one another. The 700LX, Nokia 2110
phone and Goin' Postal is about the most compact and versitile road warrior
equipment money can buy. I know there are CE and PalmPilots about, but they
all lack certain features. About the only feature lacking here is
backlighting.

br

Franklin

200LX & 700LX (and a one hour Libretto...)

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> I don't know if this helps, but remember the SSC set up is different
> than the SC setup. If you want to do the tutorial in the manual, I
> suggest you temporarily install a 2nd copy the way it describes in the
> manual, adjusting your autoexec.bat file accordingly.  When finished, go
> back to the SSC setup.

Thanks.  I think I have kept these differences in mind.  I must say that
the material I got with SSC was amazingly confusing and un-clear.  In some
respects, the turn-key approach of SSC is good, but the potential problems
are mind-boggling.  I have (I think) a fairly good grasp of the palmtop
and SC in general, and even I was confused.

In most cases, when I have had a question I've gone back to the original
SC manual and been able to get an answer.  I hope you include the original
manual for those who buy a real license, not just an upgrade.

Lest you read me wrong, I'm still very impressed with the package, and
I would readily recommend it to a friend (but I would be prepared to
help them install it!).  I am very pleased with my purchase, it was
significantly more complicated than I expected.  Such is life...

But anyway, I still have some questions that I'll be working out with you
guys soon, but I'm swamped under here at work right now.  More to come...

-Chris

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Well, stay with your 200LX, I think. Get a phone/data card that is
compatible. And yes, the 700LX does have a serial port. Phone and datacard
cost about 6-700 USD here in Norway.

br

Franklin



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From: Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 29. mars 1999 10:46
Subject: Re: Opinions on the HP700LX?


hi,
where can I have more information about the 700LX.
i have  2 HP200LX and I need to use a mobile phone.
I thought it will be more easy to have a 700LX.

do you have a serial port with the 700LX ?
can you use carousel?

!!!!! can you connect a portable hand free set ?????
How expensive are they??

regards


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Well, cleaning up in my diskettes again... :-)

We in Norway at least don't seem to have any old computer junk outlets,
nobody is interested. At the main/biggest/only yearly computer auction in
Oslo (and in Norway?) dot matrix printers did not even receive a bid! These
were new or next to new 24 pin models from OKI. And the bidding starts at
less than USD 1. :-) Old MS-DOS, less than 6.22, are thrown away. 286's
don't even show up at the flea market even. Any way:

Sidekick 1, Sidekick Plus and Calendar Creator surfaced. Any takers?
Preferably people that can put them up on a web site. I will wait a few days
before I send, so that I can do a bcc: to all.

SK1 zip file 159 KB (1 diskette)
SK+ zip file  485 KB (4 diskettes)
CC zip file 543 KB (2 diskettes)

br

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I am sorry, I know that this topic has been discussed several times.
But one question in my mind has been on PCMCIA modem speed. If the 19200
baud speed limit is that of the serial port, what is that of a PCMCIA
modem (assuming some low-power PCMCIA modems can be used for
56k connection)? Since PCMCIA interface is not serial, I presume it
to be higher than 19200 - Or am I missing something?

Thank you in advance!

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Hello PT's

I got a few NIMH batteries the other day at a swaÝ meet. They seem to
work fine and I'll be scouring SUPER for monitoring sw tonight. I was
wondering if anyone is familiar with the Duracell model DHAA120
specifically they don't have the mAh rating on the labelling.

Thanx
Bill Buzan

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They're 1200mAh, according to a website at

http://www.73.com/a/0556.shtml


- Longden





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Subject:  NIMH model number




Hello PT's

I got a few NIMH batteries the other day at a swaÝ meet. They seem to
work fine and I'll be scouring SUPER for monitoring sw tonight. I was
wondering if anyone is familiar with the Duracell model DHAA120
specifically they don't have the mAh rating on the labelling.

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Hello all ,
I'm new in this list. Long time was silently watching the discussions.
Recently I've stumbled on one problem. I am using HP100LX -an old one. It came
to me without AC/DC adaptor so I used universal. OK machine becomes warm when
I charge NiCad's. I was lucky to charge batteries only twice. The last time I
was charging batt's while transferring files from my desktop. Transfer was
complete and I installed Buddy v.3.0b on the spot. Reading FAQ and trying to
configure this program to work properly on HP, while the palmtop was still
charging.

At last looked like I was done with charging and installation. After that there
was no reaction from HP whether adaptor is plugged in or not. The only power
source became only batteries. I tried to remove all TSR's, even Buddy. Hot and
cold reboot - nothing helps. As for now it is similar that it turns to be
hardware failure.

The questions are:
1.are there any "home" used methods to test DC socket?
2.maybe anyone was met with similar problem?
3.maybe somebody knows the specifications or part # of that chip which is
responsible for power distribution inside the machine?

No need to recommend Thaddeus as from Lithuania(where I live in) it's too
difficult story.

Any kind of help and info is waited.
TIA.

PS. Pardon for my English.

Best regards,
 Alchemija                          mailto:alchoma@is.lt

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Has anyone tried StockChart (http://www.leive.com/dps.htm)? What did you
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Philippe :)

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Thanx Longden
Very interesting site
BB.

>>> Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> 03/29/99 03:45pm >>>
They're 1200mAh, according to a website at

http://www.73.com/a/0556.shtml


- Longden





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Subject:  NIMH model number




Hello PT's

I got a few NIMH batteries the other day at a swaÝ meet. They seem to
work fine and I'll be scouring SUPER for monitoring sw tonight. I was
wondering if anyone is familiar with the Duracell model DHAA120
specifically they don't have the mAh rating on the labelling.

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Well, my hp finally bit the dust. It has served me well, but the latest
incident involving the cold hard floor, my card modem, and the hp had
unfortunate conciquences, and I will not go into the details. However, I
have found the problem. The battery connector broke off where it goes
from the inside of the case to the battery compartment. I could fix the
problem, but I haven't the time or inclination to do so. So, my offer.
The LCD and logic are fine, the case has some cosmetic damage, and the
speaker is gone (don't ask, but I will say that the teachers at my high
school take a very serious attitude to beeps). I will sell the power
adapter and hp100lx together for $50 or I will trade for a working Tandy
zoomer or equivilent. Please e-mail me offline. ctg@geocities.com

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i'm uinterested, how much do you think it'll be after shipping to Jamaica,
New York??

--francois

On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 08:25:00PM -0600, Carpman wrote:
> Well, my hp finally bit the dust. It has served me well, but the latest
> incident involving the cold hard floor, my card modem, and the hp had
> unfortunate conciquences, and I will not go into the details. However, I
> have found the problem. The battery connector broke off where it goes
> from the inside of the case to the battery compartment. I could fix the
> problem, but I haven't the time or inclination to do so. So, my offer.
> The LCD and logic are fine, the case has some cosmetic damage, and the
> speaker is gone (don't ask, but I will say that the teachers at my high
> school take a very serious attitude to beeps). I will sell the power
> adapter and hp100lx together for $50 or I will trade for a working Tandy
> zoomer or equivilent. Please e-mail me offline. ctg@geocities.com
>
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On the subject of NiMH, I'll throw in a plug for some Olympus 1450 mAh NiMH
batteries I bought at a camera shop last November.

I've tried several brands already (T2T, YesSolar, RS) and the Olympus have been
great performers, not only because of the higher capacity, but remarkably they
charge in MUCH less time than the others even tho they run longer between
charges (measured by ABC/LX user hours).

Previously, it was common for me to start charging before I went to sleep and
still find the charge cycle running in the morning (hitting the long plateau
part of the NiMH cycle).

The Olympus are set at the same ABC/LX settings as for my T2T 1300 mAh cells
(start charge at 2.40v, stop at 2.90, stall at 6.0 hrs) and yet the Olympus
cells rarely take me longer than 8 hours to charge. In fact, looking at the
ABC/LX charge curve, the voltage rise over time is somewhat constant (ie, no
plateau). Could be I haven't set the upper limit high enough, but the cells are
rated at 1.2v so I'm reluctant to turn that up any higher. ABC/LX consistently
tells me the charging stops because the max voltage was reached (rather than
reaching the limit on stall times or total charge time).

There's a question of whether they may have a higher self-discharge rate than
the T2T...something I haven't been able to test simply because I use them very
much (even with my Omnibook).

The batteries are Olympus Camedia B-01E 1.2v, 1450 mAh, and they cost about $25
for a set of 4.

- Longden





Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> on 03/29/99 11:34:19 AM

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Subject:  1500 mAH NiMH Batteries




I have also found the Radio Shack NiCd and NiMH betteries to
be inferior.  I stopped using them and went back to my 1200
mah NiMH batteries from Shier that I have been using for 38
(yes, thirty-eight) months.  They are still going strong.

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>The Olympus are set at the same ABC/LX settings as for my T2T 1300 mAh
cells
>(start charge at 2.40v, stop at 2.90, stall at 6.0 hrs) and yet the Olympus

It sounds as if you aren't letting them charge to a high enough voltage.  I
have seen my 1300mah batteries charge as high as 2.96 volts.  Your 2.90v
sounds too low.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:54:54 -0700
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I use a Panasonic Model BQ-8B battery charger. It appears to be just a
constant rate charger. I bought it before there were fast charge cells.
Looking in my Digikey catalog I see that they say NiMH cannot be constant
rate trickle charged. I am doing just that but have only had the cells
since December.

As you can see from the chart below, NiMH do not like overcharging. Maybe
somebody could correct me but I get the idea that it does not matter how
you get to full charge as long as you do not overcharge NiMH cells.

Here is a chart I recently found very useful. It takes nearly the full
width of your email window and a fixed width font to look right!

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Battery Type Comparisons
                        NiCd     NiMH     SLA      Li-Ion   Li-Poly-
Reusable
                                                             mer
Alkaline
Energy density          40-60    60-80    30       100      150-200  80
Cycle life (1)          500-1500 500      200-500  500-1000 100-150  10
Fast charge time        1 h      2-4h     8-16h    3-4h     8-15h    2-3h
Overcharge tolerance    Moderate Low      High     Very low N/A
Moderate
Self-discharge (per mo) 25%      30%      5%       10% (2)  N/A (2)  0.3%
Individual cell voltage 1.25 V   1.25 V   2V       3.6V     2.7V     1.5V
Maximum load current (3)>2C      0.5-1C   0.2C     1C       0.2C     0.2C
Typical average cost    1.0      1.4      0.5      2.0      0.9 (est)0.1
(with NiCD being unity)

(1) Cycle life is when full capacity decreases from 100% to 80%. For
reusable
alkaline, it drops to 65%.

(2) Control and protection circuitry contained within the battery pack
typically consume 3% per month.

(3) The C specified here refers to the cell's ampere-hour capacity. For
example, if a cell is rated at 1.5Ah and you discharge it at a 1C rate, you

will be drawing 1 .5 A for 1 hour. If you draw only 0.75A from it (0.5C),
the
cell should last for 2 hours.

>From QST Apr 1999 p41 by Don A. Gagnon, WB8HQs

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I think the lithium ion batteries for an OB800 will work for the OB600. HP
supplies a software patch for the OB600 for these batteries.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

JKaufeld@aol.com wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> Congrats on the purchase of your machine! I'm sure that you'll like the little
> fellow. I used OmniBooks for several years and enjoyed them tremendously.
>
> First, a general bit of advice concerning your machine: Given your knowledge
> level, I'd *highly* suggest finding a trustworthy computer tech who can advise
> and help you through configuring your computer. Working with any computer is
> often confusing, but the technical details of configuring a laptop
> (particularly in the beloved OmniBook line) can feel overwhelming. Also, get
> some Windows training (a company in your area should offer some, plus AOL
> offers several <A HREF="aol://4344:1329.oc_beg.10186208.559689372">beginners
> classes</A> (click the <A HREF="aol://4344:1329.oc_beg.10186208.559689372">
> blue text</A> to go there) in the Computer channel (keyword COMPUTER CLASSES).
> Finally, purchase the official HP manual. You'll need it.
>
> In a message dated 3/29/99 2:45:05 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> Pastor02@aol.com writes:
>
> << I just purchased a used HP Omnibook 600C.  It is a nice little 486 DX/2 50.
> It
>  currently has 8 meg of RAM but I think I'll upgrade it up to 16 meg soon.
>  (it's the kind you can do that to)  It did not come with a manual and HP
> wants
>  $25 for a new one so I thought I'd try here first. >>
>
> Definitely purchase the memory upgrade as soon as possible. The OmniBook 600
> (OB600) isn't a very young machine, so accessories like memory upgrades and
> batteries will get scarce in the coming year or two. I'd also recommend buying
> a couple of new batteries if you plan to use it on the road. If the computer
> still has its original battery, then it should be replaced.
>
> << Question One: What kind of a CD-ROM can I use with this? What kind should I
>  buy and what are the requirments or what should I look for? >>
>
> The OB600 wasn't designed to work with a CD-ROM, but you can add one.
> <A HREF="aol://4344:2501.webjr.26608333.573584802">J&R Computer World</A>
> (keyword J&R, www.jandr.com) offers several CD-ROM units that plug into the
> computer's PC-Card slot (also known as a PCMCIA slot -- different terms, but
> the same slot). Expect to pay anywhere from $130 to $250 for a CD-ROM drive.
> You'll probably need to install Windows 95/98 before using a CD-ROM drive with
> your machine, because I doubt that these new drives include driver software
> for DOS (which is what your computer currently runs).
>
> << Question Two: I have the 13 disk to Win95 that came with my Desktop.  Since
> I
>  bought and install WIn98 on the desktop, I'm thinking of intalling the Win95
>  on the HP 600C.  In order to do that, the intallation process will re-format
>  my hard drive on the HP 600C. Is that going to cause any problems? What do
> you
>  think I should do? >>
>
> Someone on the list undoubtedly has the OB600 upgrade information for Windows
> 95. HP created a very nice set of upgrade instructions that walk you through
> the process. Again, I *highly* recommend getting an experienced PC tech to
> help you through the process, because it's quite a bit more complex than
> merely installing Windows 95 on the machine.
>
> Good luck!
> John Kaufeld
> Author on the Loose
> jkaufeld@aol.com

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You might check with fdisk to make sure the boot partition is DOS and
ACTIVE. If it is not active, it would not boot to DOS.

Bob Meyer
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Elk Mountain WY

Karl DeLyria wrote:

> I have an OB 425 that I recently put a new hard drive in. The old ystem
> would shutdown windows and restart. I can not seem to get the new
> configurtion to restart without rebooting.
>
> What am I missing or what have I done wrong?
>
> karl

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Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:

> on PCMCIA modem speed. If the 19200
> baud speed limit is that of the serial port, what is that of a PCMCIA
> modem (assuming some low-power PCMCIA modems can be used for
> 56k connection)? Since PCMCIA interface is not serial, I presume it
> to be higher than 19200

You are correct that the serial port speed setting for a
PCMCIA modem can be higher than the port speed you would use
for the built in serial port.  But this is not because the
PCMCIA is "not serial", because it is still serial data coming
in through the modem.  The reason is because the UART (the
chip that converts the serial data into parallel) in PCMCIA
modems is usually a buffered 16550 that can get a higher
throughput with the palmtop than the built in non-buffered
UART on COM1.


Stan

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Hi list,

finally I could buy these white 3000mcd-LEDs
from Conrad Electronics (they had 30 pcs on stock
again!). And I agree with Stefan:
They are amazing!
I tried them in total darkness and one of them
illuminated the whole screen enough for reading.
Two of them make a better light because the
light can be better dispensed on the screen.

Now I have the LEDs and when I've got time,
I'll make a light, containing my serial connector
you can see on
www.palmtop.net/serial-howto.html
and one or two of the white LEDs.
If the thing is ready, I'll make such an instruction
sheet, like you can see it on the URL given above
for the serial plug.
Maybe I can do it next weekend.

GTX
daniel

P.S.: The LEDs from Conrad Electronic have the part
number 153745-60.


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Hi Hermann,

> I copied the DOS version 'scandisk.exe' (found in C:\Windows\Command\
> on the PC) to my C:\BIN\ directory on the 200LX and startet it - and
> it works on the palmtop!! It did indicate the 'long file name error'
> on A: with the hint, that I should start Scandisk under  Windows to
> remove the error. I did it and my flas card is good again.

'I did it...'
How did you run Scandisk under Windows on the palmtop???

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:01:19 -0700
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Hello all;

I just picked up a serial-to-parallel converter (ATEN SXP-320 "RS232 -
PARALLEL CONVERTER") in hopes that I could more easily, and cheaply,
print from my 200LX.  I wasn't sure if it would work, but the price was
right!  However, I haven't been able to get it to work.  The 200LX sends
the print job, but nothing comes out of the printer and I get no other
responses of any kind.

I have checked:
  - the serial port and the HP cable -- OK
  - setup parameters N,8,1 -- OK, match on both devices
  - baud rate (2400 to 19200) -- OK, match on both devices

I have a chart of the pin assignments for the RS232 port, perhaps I need
to make sure that they are correct on the other end?  Does anyone have
the exact pin assignments for the HP 200LX serial port?

Any other ideas?

Also, does anyone know a bretter way, than MODE, to redirect from the
LPT1 to COM1 on the palmtop?

Any input is welcome.  Thanks in advance.

Richard Smith

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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:14:52 -0800
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>> Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:

>> on PCMCIA modem speed. If the 19200
>> baud speed limit is that of the serial port, what is that of a PCMCIA
>> modem (assuming some low-power PCMCIA modems can be used for
>> 56k connection)? Since PCMCIA interface is not serial, I presume it
>> to be higher than 19200

>You are correct that the serial port speed setting for a
>PCMCIA modem can be higher than the port speed you would use
>for the built in serial port.  But this is not because the
>PCMCIA is "not serial", because it is still serial data coming
>in through the modem.  The reason is because the UART (the
>chip that converts the serial data into parallel) in PCMCIA
>modems is usually a buffered 16550 that can get a higher
>throughput with the palmtop than the built in non-buffered
>UART on COM1.


>Stan

But zip works at 115200 baud using the serial cable... I now realize
(remember) that the bottleneck is on screen drawing? Do people have the
19200 baud limit in file transfer as well? If so, I am wrong again...

Thank you!

Donglok Kim                    ICSL (Image Computing Systems Lab)
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Date:         Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:42:50 -0700
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Can anyone supply uncorrupted v2.2 date 07-19-89 time 1:23a
  123.exe
  123.set
so I can fix up my v2.2 Install Disk?

Thanks,

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:21:01 +1000
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Richard,

You must use the connector with the telephone on it between the hp cable and
the convertor - NOT the one with the printer icon on it.

Regards, Crombie Redd

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> I agree that it feels "prototypish" too.  My theory is that it's a product
> based on a Corvallis design, but modified and completed in Singapore.  So
> it "feels" different, especially to people used to the Corvallis
> "feeling". (Like the 95, 100, and 200, as well as the other HP
> calculators.)  Not knocking Singapore... just noting the different design
> philosophies.

It is that exactly, designed in Corvallis, and finished in
S'pore. I think S'pore wanted to make it purposely
"different" to differentiate it from the 100/200 family,
because it was a departure from the "plain comuter" model.

I think they did a good job in S'pore to finish it, but
there were a few design quirks that defeated that machine
unfortunately.

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Fred, and David,

I know I am very late, but, On March 20 you posted:

> You have probably lost all data but the card can be fixed!

This was the case resulting from running the RAM Card
built-in test on a flash card.

I may be wrong but remind me, please. I thought there was
some sort of a program you could run the revive a card like
that. In Compuserve, there was a discussion a long long
time ago that this test simply scrambles some bits in the
flash card, making it forget that it is a flash card or
somethig like that, and therefore it does not respond to
Filer. The program I seem to recall was something that
fixes the scrambled bits, and voial! the card is back,
contents intact.

I cannot recall the name, but this discussion seems to
stick in my mind. Perhaps I do not have it clearly but
maybe you remember something like that.

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Steve,

> Hmm, maybe a bug in the rom?  I'm not so sure the 700lx was ever really
> released (was it?).  My friend in England has one, it came with a few

Huh?! It was released, definitely, in several markets
covering many countries etc etc. HP spent lots of $$$ to
advertise it then and push it and show it and so on. D&A
was (sort of) part of the debut in the Far East, and in
Europe.

Where they fell was on the notion that cellular phones are
going to be basically stable and will not develop much.
That left them eating dust, since all the cellphone
companies are producing a steady stream of new, improved
phones...

> setup, but certainly feels "prototype" compared to the 100/200 LX.

It is pretty well designed job actually. It has a few
quirks and design assumptions that stood (and stand) in its
way to being a great machine as the 200LX is. One is the
stability of cellphones, another is the internalization of
the cellphone "personality" module. etc.

> I looked at my "Using MS-DOS 6" book, no mention of calling anything
> other than a BAT file with CALL.

Hmmmm... I have a program that displays the DOS Help. It
also says nothing about calling .COM or .EXE. But I tried

call help.com

from the command line and it works just fine.

The difference is this IMHO: When you execute a program
from a batch file the control returns to the batch file.
When you execute a batch file from another batch file,
control is not returned. If you call the second batch file,
it will return to the original batch file when finished.

I am speculating that the same notion is true, sort of, in
the case of a program executing from a batch file, except
the program will return to the batch. So I suppose no harm
done in using it.

If this indeed is a quirk in HP's ROM content it adds to
the inclusion of ASSIGN, which was obsoleted in MS-DOS 5.0
and replaced by SUBST. In my MSDOS manual it specifically
states: Assign is obsolete, and SUBST is to be used
instead, it is better, it is not resident, it does the same
for less resources. They also state that ASSIGN is still
found in the diskette for compatibility reasons only with
prior MSDOS versions.

Why HP chose to put that obsolete version in is beyond me,
except for the tiny reason of compatibility with HP95's
O/S. But I am not sure if Assign was even in the ROM of the
HP95 :) ... Anyone knows?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Hello All,

On  Tuesday, 30 March 1999, Daniel Hertrich ask Hermann how he had =
copied 'scandisk.exe' to his Palmtop which he had managed to run to find =
an error on A: and which he had then repaired under Windows to make his =
flash card good again.

Presumably the flash card was repaired in his PC.

Anyway, I could not resist trying to copy Scandisk to my 200LX and to my =
amazement I got it to work.  Not only that; it checked for all the usual =
errors and produced a diagram as it did so which fitted very neatly on =
the Palmtop's screen.  I did agree to one error being corrected (I am =
usually canny, but thought it was time to live dangerously!) with the =
concession of keeping a log or file of the extra material that seemed to =
be "just taking up space".  Sure enough, there were 14 files all listed =
as using up 1,024 bytes, but all empty.  I have no idea what was taking =
up that space.

I must investigate more and would be interested to hear of similar =
experiences.

Barry Collins
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Date:         Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:54:36 -0500
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>It came to me without AC/DC adaptor so I used universal. OK machine =
becomes
warm when I charge NiCad's.<

It should be OK to use a universal adaptor. I have been doing this for =
years.
Just remember that the HP plug is reverse compared to most other devices.
The HP expects minus at center and plus at outer connector. There is a =
graphic
of this imprinted on the back of the palmtop. But I guess you figured =
this out,
otherwise I guess your HP would have gotten more than a little warm.

By the way, it is perfectly normal that the HP gets a little warm when it =
is
recharging, so that is probably not your problem.

>No need to recommend Thaddeus as from Lithuania(where I live in) it's =
too
difficult story.<

You do know of Rundel Datenteknik in Germany ? I can recommend them. Not =
only
for this problem, but for other HP palmtop related stuff.
They can be found on http://www.rundel-d.com.


Jan

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Phil,

Yes I have ABC/LX installed.     I have used Alkaline batteries for years and am
satisfied to date.     After reading the documetation for ABC/LX I see it is
designed for recharagable batteries.        Outside the disposal issue, what are
the benefits of rechargables?

BTW - thank you and the other mailing list users for answering my question.

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On 3-25-99 Bill wrote

I agree.  I've got a black leather organizer that was originally designed
      to carry a 95LX and an Ericsson "brick" radio modem.  I've since dispensed
      with the "brick", and use the case to carry my 200LX, AC adapter,
      cellphone modem interface cable, digital camera (PDR-2), modem, Accton
      Ethernet Card, spare batteries, checkbook, memory cards, pen, business
      cards, and a Leatherman Micra for those "emergency repairs".  This case is
      about 8"x9", and looks like a dayrunner, too... I can go anywhere and do
      almost anything.

Bill - Where did you get your case.    I have  been using a E&B case for a
      couple of years but your 8"x9" case sounds like it would fit my needs
      better.

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 Yesterday I saw (just by accident) that the dutch railroad
 conductors using the 200LX to give timetable and fare
 information! So it ain't just freaks using it... ;P

 *markus

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----- Original Message -----
> Date:    Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:08:48 +0100
> From:    Mike Little <mike@AMPERSOFT.CO.UK>
> Subject: (Fwd) ÝORANGE¨ GPS Week Number Rollover Approaches!
>
> I know that several HPLX-ers are using GPS units, so I thought
this may be of
> interest.
>
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> From:                   Yves Remedios
<yves@remedios.freeserve.co.uk>
> To:                     orange@mcc.ac.uk
> Subject:                ÝORANGE¨ GPS Week Number Rollover
Approaches!
> Date sent:              Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:47:54 +0000
>
> Although this is not phone related, I thought this would be of
general interest to the gadget freeks amongst us.  I found it in
today's EPOC Times:
> -----------ÝExtract starts¨----------
> Source: News Submission, Boris Alcaraz (5 Alive Researcher)
>
> Miscellaneous News
>
> The GPS Week Number count began at approximately midnight on
the evening of 05 January 1980 / morning of 06 January 1980.
Since that time, the count has been incremented by 1 each week,
and broadcast as part of the GPS message. The GPS Week Number
field is modulo 1024. This means that at the
> completeion of week 1023, the GPS week number will rollover to
0 on midnight of the evening of 21 August 1999 / morning of 22
August 1999.
>
> Once the rollover has occured, it is the responsibility of the
user (i.e., user equipment or software) to account for the
previous 1024 weeks.
>
> Depending upon the manufacturer of your GPS receiver, you may
or may not be effected by the GPS Week Number Rollover on 22
August 1999. Some receivers may display inaccurate date
information, some may also calculate incorrect navigation
solutions.
>
> Contact the manufacturer of your GPS receiver to determine if
you will be effected by the GPS week number rollover.
>
> More information available from:
>
> http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/gps_week.html
> -------------ÝExtract ends¨-----------
>
>
> --
> Mike Little
> email: mike@ampersoft.co.uk
> work: MLittle@geoworks.co.uk
> web: http://www.amprsoft.demon.co.uk/
> PGP public key at http://www.amprsoft.demon.co.uk/mikel.htm
>

Most LXers with GPS won't notice anything. For more info, and
affected receivers, go to http://joe.mehaffey.com/y2kunits.htm.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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----- Original Message -----
> Date:    Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:00:55 -0700
> From:    Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> Subject: Re: HP Omnibook 600C
>
> I think the lithium ion batteries for an OB800 will work for
the OB600. HP
> supplies a software patch for the OB600 for these batteries.
>

Correct, actually it's the BIOS 3.22 upgrade, which is also
needed to use the docking station. If you're running Win3.x. If
you're running Win9x you need BIOS 4.01 regardless of the battery
types. Both are available from the HP support page
(http://www.hp.com/cposupport/prodhome/hpomnibook8377.html) under
Software/Drivers.

Jon

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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      IRDA driver

On my last trip to Singapore I was able to buy an infrared communicator for
my desktop. It is named Litelink and produced by Parallax research.  The
diskettes which are provided with the product are only working with Windoze.
As I do not have any Winblows program installed any more I went to the
Website from the factory and found there that they even name the HP LX 100
and 200 as products which can use their communicator.  As I am paying my
telephone connection by the minute I did not delve much deeper in their
website so I do not know if they supply a LX 100/200 driver on request. I
suppose that the Super site has a good driver. But can somebody get me up and
working with the irda connection? My Litelink is connected to com-1.


Path = C:\DOS;C:\DOS\Run;C:\WIN\Crash\DOS;C:\Me\Del\WIN;C:\Me\Use\Net

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Probably true Mack.

I remember putting ABC/LX on auto-tune for your cells and seeing them go up that
high (2.96v), but over a period of a few months, even the long charging cycles
seemed to be having a harder time reaching that level.

This was expected, as many have mentioned the drop-off in charging capacity over
the life of the cell, but even set at 2.90v, the other NiMH's were taking 10-16
hours to reach that level, which was a nuisance only cuz I'm never in one place
that long.

I may set the Olympus cells to charge longer when I have the time to do so and
the guts to push them that high. For now, I'm happy with the longer usage life
per charge and the shorter charging cycles.

- Longden





Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> on 03/29/99 08:22:03 PM

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>The Olympus are set at the same ABC/LX settings as for my T2T 1300 mAh
>cells (start charge at 2.40v, stop at 2.90, stall at 6.0 hrs)

It sounds as if you aren't letting them charge to a high enough voltage.  I
have seen my 1300mah batteries charge as high as 2.96 volts.  Your 2.90v
sounds too low.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:39:05 -0500
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Get a copy of the solver_help database (a .GDB file) from the location
below:

http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/database/slv_hlp.zip

When you load this in your database, you will find many useful ways to apply
the solver.  The notes applicable to Lotus 1-2-3 are identified by a field.

It also contains a number of references to the HP 100LX manual pages and a
book by Chris(?) Coffin, "The Answers You Need for the 95LX".
>From:  Norbert Giese ÝSMTP:Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE¨
>Subject:       HP 200LX - Use of 1-2-3 with HP Solve
>...
>who knows about interesting sources of information that deal with HP
>Solve together with Lotus 1-2-3? Solver has some intesting functions to
>deal with 1-2-3 but I lack any idea about how to use them both together
>(the German User's Guide isn't of much help here).
>
>Specifically, the design intention seems that HP Solve can make use of
>1-2-3, but not vice versa? I wonder if 1-2-3 can somehow make use of HP
>Solver, perhaps via System Macros.

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The website for Parallax Research does have an HP IRDA driver (described as "HP
100/200LX Palmtop PC IrDA Driver"

     http://www.parallax-research.com/technical.html

but after downloading and unzipping, it looks like the same one from HP and
SUPER.....it's for printing only.

- Longden





Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID> on 04/01/99 10:58:01 AM

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Subject:  IRDA driver




On my last trip to Singapore I was able to buy an infrared communicator for
my desktop. It is named Litelink and produced by Parallax research.  The
diskettes which are provided with the product are only working with Windoze.
As I do not have any Winblows program installed any more I went to the
Website from the factory and found there that they even name the HP LX 100
and 200 as products which can use their communicator.  As I am paying my
telephone connection by the minute I did not delve much deeper in their
website so I do not know if they supply a LX 100/200 driver on request. I
suppose that the Super site has a good driver. But can somebody get me up and
working with the irda connection? My Litelink is connected to com-1.

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Bought (but haven't had a chance to install) an IRDA adapter for my PC. It's
from "Options by IBM" and it's called "Serial Infrared Adapter for ISA
Computers, point-to-point infrared communications adapter", supported
protocols: IrDA 2.4kbps-115.2kbps, SHARP-ASK up to 19.2kbps, HP-SIR
2.4kbps-115.2kbps, IBM High Speed up to 1.152 Mbps. Any idea if that'll work
with the 200LX?

Thanks,

Philippe :)

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Subject: IRDA driver


> On my last trip to Singapore I was able to buy an infrared communicator
for
> my desktop. It is named Litelink and produced by Parallax research.  The
> diskettes which are provided with the product are only working with
Windoze.
> As I do not have any Winblows program installed any more I went to the
> Website from the factory and found there that they even name the HP LX 100
> and 200 as products which can use their communicator.  As I am paying my
> telephone connection by the minute I did not delve much deeper in their
> website so I do not know if they supply a LX 100/200 driver on request. I
> suppose that the Super site has a good driver. But can somebody get me up
and
> working with the irda connection? My Litelink is connected to com-1.
>
>
> Path = C:\DOS;C:\DOS\Run;C:\WIN\Crash\DOS;C:\Me\Del\WIN;C:\Me\Use\Net
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered
>
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Date:         Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:50:54 +0200
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I have experimented with various serial-> parallel devices, and my
experiences can be summed up thus:
1) The chep ones that runs of the serial ports power requires too high a
current to work reliably
2) The battery driven ones are mostly as large as the 200
3) There are a few recomended units on the list. I use a Black Box Seriel
<-> Parallel Converter IV, and it runs perfectly with hardware & s/w
handshaking requiring no batteries.

Bottom line: The unit may not be compatible, or may be broken. Or you may
have overlooked an obvious fault in connecting the devices.
Checklist:
1) Setup - printer check Com1
2) Use memo and try to print
3) Use print screen
If neither works check serial port O/P with a voltmeter between pins 3 and
5 looking right at the connector and starting counting from the top left.
There should be a negative voltage of more than 4 volts, even whith the
adapter attached and no comms taking place. (Yes you'll have to do a bit of
soldering to measure that one!) If there is a voltage there w/o adapter and
it drops when one is connected -> adapter draws too much current.
If no neg. voltage check Setup again. If setup =OK, => serial port =
faulty.

Hope this helps!
regards
Paal Rasmussen
Proud owner of most fine HP products.


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> From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Serial-Parallel Problem
> Date: 30. mars 1999 07:01
>
> Hello all;
>
> I just picked up a serial-to-parallel converter (ATEN SXP-320 "RS232 -
> PARALLEL CONVERTER") in hopes that I could more easily, and cheaply,
> print from my 200LX.  I wasn't sure if it would work, but the price was
> right!  However, I haven't been able to get it to work.  The 200LX sends
> the print job, but nothing comes out of the printer and I get no other
> responses of any kind.
>

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Tue, 30 Mar 1999 12:41:21 -0500 (EST)

05h38m19s ago ...
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Joe Lapp wrote:

> Outside the disposal issue, what are the benefits of rechargables?

Well, they save wear-and-tear on the battery compartment cover.
Rechargeables also have higher peak current capacity than alkalines -
important if you use a card modem with batteries, or have a
power-hungry flash card.

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It says a supported protocol is HP-SIR (serial infra-red), which I think is what
the LX uses, so there's hope.

Let us know how it works out.

- Longden





Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET> on 03/30/99 09:28:29 AM

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Subject:  Another IRDA driver




Bought (but haven't had a chance to install) an IRDA adapter for my PC. It's
from "Options by IBM" and it's called "Serial Infrared Adapter for ISA
Computers, point-to-point infrared communications adapter", supported
protocols: IrDA 2.4kbps-115.2kbps, SHARP-ASK up to 19.2kbps, HP-SIR
2.4kbps-115.2kbps, IBM High Speed up to 1.152 Mbps. Any idea if that'll work
with the 200LX?

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Longden Loo wrote:
> It says a supported protocol is HP-SIR (serial infra-red), which I think
> is what the LX uses, so there's hope.

Do not look for any SIR driver to download, I spent hours until I found
out that SIR is actually implemented in hardware.  The IR transmitter
encodes asynchronous byte streams into SIR format!

Let me cut'n'paste from a message I sent to alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
on 1999-02-07:

The HP-LX implements SIR which stands for Serial Line Infra Red.
This is the same thing as IrDA/Phys and simply means, that data
is transmitted in much the same way as on a serial cable, except
of course that Infra Red light is used.

It took me a while to realize that the trick is to turn off any
special software, that is, turn off the upper IrDA layers, if that
is possible in your situation.

After this discovery I was able to hook up my LX to my Unix work
station in no time at all.  All I had to do was to attach an
IR transmitter to the serial port of the unix machine, set up the
line parameters properly (9600 baud max :() and transfer data.

You might want to read that article:
  An Introduction to the IrDA Protocols - Mike Cremer (57K)
  A PIE IR Engineer reveals all about the next generation protocols.
  http://www.cdpubs.com/hhsys/archives/26/12cremer.pdf

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> From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Serial-Parallel Problem
> Date: 30. mars 1999 07:01
>
> Hello all;
>
> I just picked up a serial-to-parallel converter (ATEN SXP-320 "RS232 -
> PARALLEL CONVERTER") in hopes that I could more easily, and cheaply,
> print from my 200LX.  I wasn't sure if it would work, but the price was
> right!  However, I haven't been able to get it to work.  The 200LX sends
> the print job, but nothing comes out of the printer and I get no other
> responses of any kind.



I have a spare infra-red printer adapter (Extended Systems Jet-Eye InfraRed
      printer port ESI-9510). Works great with the 200LX and comes with AC
      adapter.



$60 plus buyer pays shipping, in case anyone's interested. I know one man's
      cheap is another man's treasure.



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Hey, everyone.

I picked up a Megahertz pocket modem a couple days ago, and was thinking of
hooking it up to my 200lx.  Does anyone know the pinout for the 200lx
serial port?  Or, even better, can someone tell me what pin on the 200lx
goes to what pin on a db-9?

Thanks a lot.

Owen, who is trying to save money by not buying an expensive cable &
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   I've noticed that all of the coordinates for cities in the world time
database on the HP200 are rounded to 1/3 degree.  I assume this is an
artifact of the digitizing process that was used to produce the data file.
Has anyone created a replacement data file with more accurate coords?

Jonathan

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Hi, you can tell me the location (or some clue) to find that driver ?

Stanley Dobrowski escribi=F3: (wrote)

> Alejandro Paz wrote:
>
> > i have a hp 95lx and a SanDisk CF, and i am looking for some help to
> > join both to work ... if i can make wortk the CF with the hp 95,
> > think in the posibilities
>
> ACE Technologies got flash cards to work in the 95LX with
> their driver (ACECARD).  I have not fiddled with the 95 in a
> long time and doubt I have that driver any more.  Also, I
> don't know if that ACE driver would work with the newer flash
> cards.  But it is certainly worth a try.
>
> Stan
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Thanks in advance, i got the commands from a IDE driver for Linux, now th=
e
difficult part is to get the pin out form the 52 pin version of nec v20 .=
...

Rick Kozak escribi=F3:

> You are both correct. The hardware interface is quite simple. Since it =
is
> asynchronous, most any processor can handle it. The software protocol t=
akes
> some work to do.
>
> There are a series of 50 or so commands that you must send over this
> interface to do all the things you want. This is what's defined by the =
ATA
> (IDE) protocol. That's what's non-trivial.
>
> Documentation for this protocol is freely available on the net - just d=
o a
> search and you'll find it.
>
> rick
>
> >Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR> wrote:
> >
> >> do you know the
> >> ATA interface ?, is very simple, four Address lines, eight Data line=
s,
> *IORD,
> >> *IOWD and some other lines, SanDisk claims what a 8051 can manage a =
CF
> ATA
> >> card , do you think can i do with a Nec V20 ?
> >
> >I don't think it is that simple.  The ATA flash card interface
> >is the same as an IDE (also know at ATA) hard disk interface.
> >The PCMCIA 1.0 standard that is in the HP95LX should be
> >published someplace so that you can look it up.
> >
> >
> >Stan
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Ja, but i think i can do....

Stanley Dobrowski escribi=F3: (wrote)

> Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR> wrote:
>
> > do you know the
> > ATA interface ?, is very simple, four Address lines, eight Data lines=
, *IORD,
> > *IOWD and some other lines, SanDisk claims what a 8051 can manage a C=
F ATA
> > card , do you think can i do with a Nec V20 ?
>
> I don't think it is that simple.  The ATA flash card interface
> is the same as an IDE (also know at ATA) hard disk interface.
> The PCMCIA 1.0 standard that is in the HP95LX should be
> published someplace so that you can look it up.
>
> Stan
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If you are in So. CA, zot2u@earthlink.net has been selling many of these
serial-to-parallel converters.  Price ranges from $50 to $75.  These are
the good kinds -no battery needed.


Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:
>
> Hello all;
>
> I just picked up a serial-to-parallel converter (ATEN SXP-320 "RS232 -
> PARALLEL CONVERTER") in hopes that I could more easily, and cheaply,
> print from my 200LX.  I wasn't sure if it would work, but the price was
> right!  However, I haven't been able to get it to work.  The 200LX sends
> the print job, but nothing comes out of the printer and I get no other
> responses of any kind.
>
> I have checked:
>   - the serial port and the HP cable -- OK
>   - setup parameters N,8,1 -- OK, match on both devices
>   - baud rate (2400 to 19200) -- OK, match on both devices
>
> I have a chart of the pin assignments for the RS232 port, perhaps I need
> to make sure that they are correct on the other end?  Does anyone have
> the exact pin assignments for the HP 200LX serial port?
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Also, does anyone know a bretter way, than MODE, to redirect from the
> LPT1 to COM1 on the palmtop?
>
> Any input is welcome.  Thanks in advance.
>
> Richard Smith
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Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:

> But zip works at 115200 baud using the serial cable... I now realize
> (remember) that the bottleneck is on screen drawing? Do people have the
> 19200 baud limit in file transfer as well? If so, I am wrong again...

No, you are not wrong.  Zip and the Filer and other high speed
data transfer programs use highly optimized serial port data
handling routines that allow much higher throughput.  Also,
they have a very simple protocol that does not require much
processor overhead to figure out.  Zip and Filer only have to
read or store the block of data in a file in between packets
of data flow.

On the other hand, the TCP/IP coming in over the Internet (or
HMI over CompuServe to acCIS) is very complex with layers of
the protocol before the data even gets to the application such
as Post or HV or acCIS.  Then the epplication has to deal with
the data.  All of this on the tiny low power CPU in the
100/200LX.

And, yes, screen drawing such as in a terminal emulator
program is an example of the work the application must do
while the data keeps coming in through the serial port.  If
you think about it, 19200 bps can be about 1920 characters
(bytes) per second.  Each character generates an interrupt of
the CPU and then the time it takes for the CPU to switch tasks
to service that serial port character.  1920 of these per
second is a lot of work for the palmtop.

If you were to do a test with Filer at 115200 bps and 57600
bps, you would not see a 2 times difference in throughput.  In
fact, you would see only a small difference.  The palmtop
really cannot keep up with 115200 bps (or 11520 interrupts per
second) and so the protocol allows for things to work as fast
as the CPU's can keep up without losing data.

With a PCMCIA modem and a buffered serial port, there is less
chance of character lose because the CPU is busy.  The UART
will hold several characters and then hand the bunch of them
over to the CPU when the interrupt finally gets serviced.
Without buffering (like with the built in serial port), if the
next character comes in before the previous one is handled,
then the older one is lost.


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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:02:50 +0700
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Where did you get your copy of Word for DOS?  I used to use it, before
the laptop world that I work in went to Word for Windows.


> needed. The rest of you can ignore my request. Now, I'm going to
> go hide in a corner and (re)learn how to use MS Word for DOS.
>
> Kiyoshi Akima
> kakima@usa.net

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Date: Wednesday, 31 March 1999 09:59
Subject: better coords for world time database?


>   I've noticed that all of the coordinates for cities in the world time
>database on the HP200 are rounded to 1/3 degree.  I assume this is an
>artifact of the digitizing process that was used to produce the data file.
>Has anyone created a replacement data file with more accurate coords?
>
>Jonathan


I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly researched
and
with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find. I also just finished
version
3.0 of my 1995 CIA World Fact Book based html (version 1.0 is on super,
and I am waiting on an email from Mitch to clear the way to fire up the new
file)

In my worldtime file I have also corrected the erroneous time-zone info for
all
entries and updated country name-changes and other data changed from when
it was burned into rom by the grand HP guys.

If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html stuff?

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Date:         Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:40:06 -0700
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Alain,

I tried the 123.exe and 123.set v2.2. Not sure about the "set" but the "exe"
had already been registered in another name. Anyone else have the
unoverwritten files? I have the whole package including box, but previously
registered.

Bob Meyer wrote:

> Can anyone supply uncorrupted v2.2 date 07-19-89 time 1:23a
>   123.exe
>   123.set
> so I can fix up my v2.2 Install Disk?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
>
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Thanks,  I got it working.  It appears to have been printer configuration
problem.

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This probably also explains why the LX has no trouble talking to software
like Intellisync that drives the IR port of a laptop as a COM port (like you
can in Win 95), but there is all sorts of trouble when you fire up the MS
Infra-Red port manager, as seems standard in Win98.

It used in Win95 to be fairly easy to have a COM5 which was IR, it seems
very hard to do the same in '98.  I'm sure I read someplace else on a FAQ
that one had to actually turn off/unload IRDA on the laptop; all you need
was to get the IRQ and IO address set for the IR adapter.  It's like trying
to drive a modem as a COM device, not through TAPI.

Does anyone know why the IRDA driver for the LX only does printing ?  Was it
laziness or is there a reason to do a one-way communication stream ?  As MS
are now providing NDIS drivers for the IR port, how about someone writing
one for the LX ?

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>Are you sure? I think it will just save it as whatever name
>you give it, but will not convert the content. Try saving a


Hi Avi & list

My apologies to all.  Avi is correct.  Netscape does not convert as I
thought it did.

I had a wayward M$ program installed on my comp by my wife that took over
from my browser for TIF. I hadnt noticed.

Microsoft Photo editor as well as LVIEWp1b  will do actual conversions as is
needed in the original request.

Lview is shareware and will save as PCX as well.

Regards

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Please post in to super - at least as postcardware!

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Subject: Re: better coords for world time database?


Date: Wednesday, 31 March 1999 09:59
Subject: better coords for world time database?


>   I've noticed that all of the coordinates for cities in the world time
>database on the HP200 are rounded to 1/3 degree.  I assume this is an
>artifact of the digitizing process that was used to produce the data file.
>Has anyone created a replacement data file with more accurate coords?
>
>Jonathan


I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly researched
and
with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find. I also just finished
version
3.0 of my 1995 CIA World Fact Book based html (version 1.0 is on super,
and I am waiting on an email from Mitch to clear the way to fire up the new
file)

In my worldtime file I have also corrected the erroneous time-zone info for
all
entries and updated country name-changes and other data changed from when
it was burned into rom by the grand HP guys.

If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html stuff?

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Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone know the pinout for the 200lx serial port? ... who is trying
> to save money by not buying an expensive cable & adapter

I don't recommend trying to save money by making your own cable to plug
into the palmtop's special connector.  A new motherboard will end up
costing a lot more than the cable.

The DB-9 end of the HP serial cable looks like a standard DCE device and
will plug directly into a PC's serial port.  So, it wll not plug directly
into a modem.  Oddly enough, you will need a null modem adapter to reverse
the null modem wiring in the serial cable if you want to use a modem.  The
black DB9 to DB9 adapter that comes with the HP CPACK cable kit is just
what you need for the MHZ pocket modem.

As for wiring your own null modem adapter, here is averything you ever
wanted to know about HP serial wiring:

The wiring and pin-out of the 100LX F1015A cable and F1023A adapter set.

F1015A - is a null modem cable to connect the 100/200LX directly to a
standard PC serial port with a DB9M connector

F1023A - a collection of 9 and 25 pin adapters to use with the F1015A
cable to connect to a variety of other devices.

 Product   Adapter    Adapter    Adapter  Connects to   That has
 Number   Connectors  Color      Icon     this device   this
  6639    9M to  9M   black      None     Modem          9F
  6640    9M to 25M   off-white  Printer  Printer        25F
  6641    9M to 25F   black      PC       Serial port    25M
  6642    9M to 25M   gray       Phone    Modem          25F

The 6639 and 6642 adapters are wired like a null modem to counteract the
null modem already in the HP cable when the 100/200Lx is to connect to a
modem.  This effectively makes it a straight-through cable.

 RS-232         Palmtop  DB25   HP Cable  '39  '40   '41   '42
 signal  Source  Port  Standard   (9F)    (9M) (25M) (25F) (25M)
 DCD      DCE      1      8         1       1    4     4     8
 RD       DCE      2      3         3       2    2     2     3
 TD       DTE      3      2         2       3    3     3     2
 DTR      DTE      4     20         6       4   5,6   5,6   20
 SG        -       5      7         5       5    7     7     7
 DSR      DCE      6      6         4       6   20    20     6
 RTS      DTE      7      4         8       7    8     8     4
 CTS      DCE      8      5         7       8   20    20     5
 RI       DCE      9     22         9       9    -     -    22
 -         -      10      -      shield
Notes:
1. The pins on the 100/200LX are numbered from top left to bottom right:

  (Coin Cell and IR) 1 2 3 4 5  (12VDC)
                     6 7 8 9 10

So (of course) the pins on the F1015A are the mirror image of this
(looking into end of cable):

    bump
  5 4 3 2 1
 10 9 8 7 6

2. The pin assignment of the 100/200LX's 10-pin connector are the same as
the pin numbers on a standard PC 9-pin serial port.

3. Under Source, DTE stands for Data Terminal Equipment - devices that act
like terminals and connect to modems. DCE stands for Data Communication
Equipment - modem-like devices. The serial ports on IBM PC-compatibles
(like the palmtop) are wired as DTEs. In other words a one-to-one cable
from a 100/200LX (or any PC) to a modem should work.  This is complicated
by the fact that most modems do not have a 9-pin connector (although many
portable modems do). So you need a 9-pin to 25-pin converter.

4. The column "DB25 Standard" gives the corresponding pin on a standard
25-pin RS-232 connector.

5. "9M", "9F", "25M" and "25F" refer to 9 and 25 pin, male and female
connectors.

6. These are the meanings of the RS-232 abbreviations:
  DCD - Data Carrier Detect  from modem
  RD  - Receive Data         from modem
  TD  - Transmit Data        to modem
  DTR - Data Terminal Ready  to modem
  SG  - Signal Ground
  DSR - Data Set Ready       from modem
  RTS - Request To Send      to modem
  CTS - Clear To Send        from modem
  RI  - Ring Indicator       from modem

7. The F1015A is _not_ a straight-thru cable. It is a null-modem cable
which exactly matches the blue LapLink cable.

8. The '39 adapter undoes the scrambling of the F1015A cable. The result
is the equivalent of a standard PC 9-pin male serial port.

9. The '40 and '41 adapters are the same except for the sex of the 25-pin
connector. Although the '41 looks like a conventional PC 9-to-25-pin
serial port adapter it is not!

10. The '42 adapter will give you a standard PC 25-pin male connector.  As
mentioned above it can connect to a modem with a one-to-one cable or
directly.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:47:01 -0800
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Those little rubber footies

No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series.
One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its
accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the
screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there
anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware?

Thanks.

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Philippe Lewis wrote:

> > -by 3rd parties not as broadly supported as 200LX (incl. memory/speed
> > upgrades)
>
> Some people have said it's not possible to upgrade memory/speed on the
> 700LX. Is this true?
>
> Philippe :)
>
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No memory upgrade, but speed upgrade can be done...have both a Hp 200 and a
Hp 700 Lx. They are both great but I must say I prefer the Hp 200 Lx
because of its size.

Will have my Hp 200 Lx upgraded with speed/memory soon...(Main reason I
bought a Hp 200 Lx in addition to the Hp 700 Lx is that I need more memory
on "C:"...)

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 03:28:21 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some
skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience
programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks
within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct?

If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a
user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible
launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert
data into the palmtop's format.

It seems possible also to go the other direction. Synchronization
would be much harder. Anyone have VBA skills?

--=20
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Hi,

> Bought (but haven't had a chance to install) an IRDA adapter for my PC. It's
> from "Options by IBM" and it's called "Serial Infrared Adapter for ISA
> Computers, point-to-point infrared communications adapter", supported
> protocols: IrDA 2.4kbps-115.2kbps, SHARP-ASK up to 19.2kbps, HP-SIR
> 2.4kbps-115.2kbps, IBM High Speed up to 1.152 Mbps. Any idea if that'll work
> with the 200LX?

HP-SIR should work with the LX.
I've an IR adaptor connected directly to the mainboard
of my desktop. And in the BIOS I can choose between
SHARP-IR, HP-SIR and IRDA. HP-SIR works.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

I did a few measurements with the white LED from
Conrad Electronic
(3000mcd, 20mA, 20 degree, white, part# 153745-60).
I tried to connect 1 and 2 LEDs to PIN 2 and 5
of the DB-9 connector of the HP serial cable
(as Stefan Peichl suggested):

LEDs       voltage (V)  current (mA)

0          6.40          0
1          3.40         ~4.8
2 parallel 3.50         ~5
2 serial   5.70         ~1.0

with the serial connected LEDs the brightness is
too low. That doesn't work.
Parallel connected works. Each LED is less bright
than a single LED, but both LEDs together
are still brighter than one single LED.

Any comments from one of the other engeneers?

GTX
daniel


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Hi Richard,

> I have checked:
>   - the serial port and the HP cable -- OK
>   - setup parameters N,8,1 -- OK, match on both devices
>   - baud rate (2400 to 19200) -- OK, match on both devices

What does '2400 to 19200' mean? Is it not necessary to set the
exact baud rate? Or so you mean you've tried all baud rates
from 2400 to 19200 on both devices?


> I have a chart of the pin assignments for the RS232 port, perhaps I need
> to make sure that they are correct on the other end?  Does anyone have
> the exact pin assignments for the HP 200LX serial port?

Yes:

 1 2 3 4 5

 6 7 8 9 10

(You look onto the male connector of your HP palmtop)
1 - DCD (data channel received line signal detector)
2 - RxD (received data)
3 - TxD (transmitted data)
4 - DTR (data terminal ready)
5 - SG  (signal ground)
6 - DSR (data set ready)
7 - RTS (request to send)
8 - CTS (clear to send)
9 - RI  (ring indicator)
10- shield


> Also, does anyone know a bretter way, than MODE, to redirect from the
> LPT1 to COM1 on the palmtop?

You don't need to redirect the port:
The built in apps print direct to the right port.
And if you want to print in DOS try to print to
PRN: instead of COM1: or LPT1:. Should work.
I think it even works if you print to LPT1:
(without any redirection)!.


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:43:57 +0200
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Could you please elaborate?
Which IR adapter? Is there a receiver/transmitter that can be driven from
the serial port readily available?
I am running Linux on a machine, and would like to connect to the LX.
Regards
Paal Rasmussen

> From: Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Another IRDA driver
> After this discovery I was able to hook up my LX to my Unix work
> station in no time at all.  All I had to do was to attach an
> IR transmitter to the serial port of the unix machine, set up the
> line parameters properly (9600 baud max :() and transfer data.

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> I used 700lx quite a bit when I was in Indonesia before the crisis with GSM
> Autoroam,

What crisis with GSM?

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> If you open the file with your browser (Netscape etc) and then "Save as" it
> gives a whole lot of options for format.

Are you sure? I think it will just save it as whatever name
you give it, but will not convert the content. Try saving a
GIF as .DOC, then let WinWord open it.

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Stan,

Thanks for the post to Steve on using a name list with
FILE: in Post/LX addressing.

> If you don't have a name, then you can leave off the < >, like
> this:

I could not remain outside this open door. If you have no
name, write to us at D&A and we'll see if can find a name
for you somewhere and send it to you :-) ...

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:15:51 -0800
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> Many times I am given a URL in an e-mail message.  On my Laptop, that's
> no problem - I just click on the link while I'm on line.  Is there an
> easy way to do this between Post/LX, WWW/LX, and HV/LX?

Use G to "grab" the URL. The rest is spelled out on the
screen.

A more thorough explanation is on the Help screens in
Post/LX. Press CTRL-F1 and scroll down to a topic called
GRABBING TEXT from the screen.

Enjoy.

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Daniel,

> Does it work with the IR port of the Nokia 6150?

I do not know. I know it works with one Nokia model,
8812(?) - Tony Hutchins, help me here please! :) As for
other models, I have no idea and will rely on you to figure
it out. Sorry, we cannot possibly support the many IR
models out there...

> What other new features will the next version of WWW/LX
> have?

Our Webpage has information about the features of new
updates.

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> What are the advantages of RPN?

Less keys, less keying, no need for parentheses, no errors
in parenthesis levels, clear-cut hierarchy of operations.

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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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It sure will.  I think it's a red herring.  Stick with a couple of wires
off the battery!
br
Jez


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Date:    30/03/99 08:05
> We made experiments (that could easily be repeated) that comprised a power
> MOSFET driving a LED and a pulse generator controlling the MOSFET gate.

Will this generate RF noise? That may not be desireable.
Darren.

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>Does anyone know the pinout for the 200lx serial port?  Or, even
> better, can someone tell me what pin on the 200lx goes to what
>pin on a db-9?

Owen,

Picked this info up over the years, slightly plagiarised, thanks
to all who originated the info:

Following  is a schematic diagram for the construction of a cable
which connects the HP200lx's 10PIN serial to both the PC/AT's
9-pin serial, 9-pin nullmodem and a standard DB-25-pin connector:
for use with I/O port to devices.   I recommend wiring the HP200
with a standard DB-9 Male Serial plug for use with Modems and TNCs.
Use a separate null modem connector for networking computers.


 -------------------
 dsr rts cts ri  gnd
 cd  rx  tx  dtr gnd
 -----\     /-------
       -----
view into plug


HP200 Serial  Name   DB-9    NullModem   DB-25 serial
   1          CD     1       1           8
   2          RD     2       3           3
   3          TD     3       2           2
   4          DTR    4       6           20
   5          Gnd    5       5           7
   6          DSR    6       4           6
   7          RTS    7       8           4
   8          CTS    8       7           5
   9          RI     9       9           22
  10          Gnd    5       5           7

For modem type devices plug the 10pin into the HP and the DB-9Male
into the I/O device.   For Networking PCs insert the NullModem
adapter between the DB-9 and the PC; or else use a separate cable
wired for NullModem with a DB-9Female on the PC end.   I find that
carrying a connector requires less space than a second cable.

Regards

David Cripps




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I am very interested. Please keep me posted.
Rian Maartens
>
> I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly research=
ed
> and
> with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find. I also just =
finished
> version
> 3.0 of my 1995 CIA World Fact Book based html (version 1.0 is on super,
> and I am waiting on an email from Mitch to clear the way to fire up the =
new
> file) ....
> If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html stuff?
>
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You can order a parts kit from HP for about $20, and that comes with an
assortment of odds and ends (several of the screws you need, the rubber feet,
battery covers, etc). Sounds pricey (considering you're still on warranty), but
it's relatively cheap considering how hard it is to find those parts.

I've lost the phone number to call, but maybe someone else here knows (or maybe
it's in the FAQ at www.hplx.net...I can't get thru via my ISP at the moment).

Several others have posted the screw sizes that worked and where they were able
to find them...you'd have to check the archives for that (again, someone else
may repost that info).

Alternatively, I have a few parts left in the parts kit I ordered a year or two
ago, and I'll part with my last screw (or any other part that's left) for about
a buck a piece. Just email me directly.

- Longden





Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU> on 03/30/99 02:47:01 PM

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Subject:  Those little rubber footies




No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series.
One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its
accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the
screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there
anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware?

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I regularly move stuff around between the 200Lx, Outlook, Ecco, with
few problems. CPACK's `Xlate/Merge' function seems to manage moving
data into 200lx form without any particular difficulty. It also makes
it easily available in CSV ready for PERL and importing to just about
anything.

I find PERL a great convenience for handling the complex problems of
synchronization.

As a result, it doesn't seem to me that there's much of anything left
that needs be done...

Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some
> skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience
> programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks
> within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct?
>
> If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a
> user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible
> launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert
> data into the palmtop's format.
>
> It seems possible also to go the other direction. Synchronization
> would be much harder. Anyone have VBA skills?
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron

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Sorry, no crisis on GSM but on Indonesia riots and economy collapsed.

Please forgive my english.

Regards,
J H Chin

A Meshar wrote:
>
> > I used 700lx quite a bit when I was in Indonesia before the crisis with GSM
> > Autoroam,
>
> What crisis with GSM?
>
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Subject:      Re: better coords for world time database?/ Area Codes?
Comments: To: "maartens@IAFRICA.COM" <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>

> I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly researched
> and
> with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find.

I've had a similar nagging concern/feeling -- what about all the new area
codes that're cropping up all over the U.S.?

Does anyone have a database to look up/reference them?

TIA,

--tim


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Some years ago, when I had an HP-41 or HP-65, I called HP
and they mailed me a set of footies.  You might try that or
e-mailing - I imagine someone on the list can supply the
appropriate address or phone no.

Ron

> No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX =
series.
> One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its
> accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I =
think the
> screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is =
there
> anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mina Carson
>
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Hi,

Now I'm ready to make the instruction sheet for building
the LED light for the LX.
But for this I have to know a word first.
Please help me, if you know, what I mean:

The word for a glue, consisting of two
components (German: 2-Komponenten-Kleber).
First component is a resin (Harz), second component
is a hardener (?) (Haerter). Both must be mixed,
and a few minutes later the stuff is hard like stone...

Is 'wire' the correct word for a wire ;) with a
diameter abt. 1mm, not isolated, flexible, but
strong enough to hold something (like a few LEDs)?


AND: If you realize that I make ANY error (grammatical,
false word or whatever....), please correct me!

Thanks.
GTX
daniel

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Germany
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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A Meshar wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> > Does it work with the IR port of the Nokia 6150?
>
> I do not know. I know it works with one Nokia model,
> 8812(?) - Tony Hutchins, help me here please! :) As for
> other models, I have no idea and will rely on you to figure
> it out. Sorry, we cannot possibly support the many IR
> models out there...
>
> > What other new features will the next version of WWW/LX
> > have?
>
> Our Webpage has information about the features of new
> updates.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>
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I will buy the new Nokia 7110 when it is released (if I can find the
money)....

I will test WWW/LX with it to see if I can get it to work when the time
comes...

I guess the new WWW/LX version works with the 8810..(for some...)   I
guess that "some" are the ones having sofware version above 4.05 on
their 8810...

There has been problems with Psion and Ce/8810. Those with not the
latest softwareversion has problems..(just a tip) I do not remember what
buttons to push to view the software version but you can find this info
on the web..

(Have now recevied my Hp 200 Lx and are very happy. Now I am looking for
some money to have it upgraded to ds and 32 mb...)

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> The word for a glue, consisting of two
> components (German: 2-Komponenten-Kleber).

This would be "epoxy" in English.


> Is 'wire' the correct word for a wire ;) with a
> diameter abt. 1mm, not isolated, flexible, but
> strong enough to hold something (like a few LEDs)?

Sure.


> AND: If you realize that I make ANY error (grammatical,
> false word or whatever....), please correct me!

Uh-oh, an invitation for criticism. *Now* you've done it!

Ted

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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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The type of glue you are describing is commonly called "epoxy".
The word wire is good.  However if it does not have insulation (isolation)
you should call it "bare" wire, or non-insulated wire.
If you are trying to "reach" the US readers, including US standard wire
gauge in place of SI units would be appreciated. :)

Thanks!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Hertrich ÝSMTP:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:59 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      LED project
>
> Hi,
>
> Now I'm ready to make the instruction sheet for building
> the LED light for the LX.
> But for this I have to know a word first.
> Please help me, if you know, what I mean:
>
> The word for a glue, consisting of two
> components (German: 2-Komponenten-Kleber).
> First component is a resin (Harz), second component
> is a hardener (?) (Haerter). Both must be mixed,
> and a few minutes later the stuff is hard like stone...
>
> Is 'wire' the correct word for a wire ;) with a
> diameter abt. 1mm, not isolated, flexible, but
> strong enough to hold something (like a few LEDs)?
>
> AND: If you realize that I make ANY error (grammatical,
> false word or whatever....), please correct me!
>
> Thanks.
> GTX
> daniel
>

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please do post to super and thanks in advace for all the effort.
regards
ron

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> From: David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: better coords for world time database?
> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:34 AM
>
> Date: Wednesday, 31 March 1999 09:59
> Subject: better coords for world time database?
>
>
> >   I've noticed that all of the coordinates for cities in the world time
> >database on the HP200 are rounded to 1/3 degree.  I assume this is an
> >artifact of the digitizing process that was used to produce the data
file.
> >Has anyone created a replacement data file with more accurate coords?
> >
> >Jonathan
>
>
> I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly
researched
> and
> with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find. I also just
finished
> version
> 3.0 of my 1995 CIA World Fact Book based html (version 1.0 is on super,
> and I am waiting on an email from Mitch to clear the way to fire up the
new
> file)
>
> In my worldtime file I have also corrected the erroneous time-zone info
for
> all
> entries and updated country name-changes and other data changed from when
> it was burned into rom by the grand HP guys.
>
> If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html stuff?
>
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As I had posted previously, those of us who aren't prrogrammers and who
want to get others to help keep our calendars up-to-date have a different
view of the problem.  This is my view which prompted me to post a $250
prize with Mitch at Super for anyone who who do what i am incapable of
doing.
this clipped from a note to mitch:

What i really want is a one key stroke procedure to create an HP200lx
appt.adb file from outlooks calendar program file.

Rationale:  My secretary keeps my calendar and I travel every week.  She
could hit one key and a file would be created that she could email to me.
this new file would keep my hp200 up-to-date with the office outlook
calendar.  I would simply delete the previous appt.adb file as she sends me
new ones.  I don't need to synchronize (it would be nice but not
necessary).

Many people have suggested that this is not enough (just creating the .adb
file with one key stroke).  However, this would solve most of my problems
and no one has done this.  I can't have a solution that
requires several steps.  If it isn't seamless and easy, I won't be able to
get the secretaries back at the office to do it.  I want to set up an Icon
on their desktops and tell them
"just double click this icon at 5:00 every afternoon and then email me the
file named ???.adb that will be in your temp directory".

I typically won't be in the office to synchronize directly.  It seems that
a simple (obviously this isn't really simple to do) file creation solution
would help many of us for whom the HP200 is our best and  only traveling
companion every week.
Cheers
Ron


----------
> From: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX
> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 10:50 AM
>
> I regularly move stuff around between the 200Lx, Outlook, Ecco, with
> few problems. CPACK's `Xlate/Merge' function seems to manage moving
> data into 200lx form without any particular difficulty. It also makes
> it easily available in CSV ready for PERL and importing to just about
> anything.
>
> I find PERL a great convenience for handling the complex problems of
> synchronization.
>
> As a result, it doesn't seem to me that there's much of anything left
> that needs be done...
>
> Curtis Cameron wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some
> > skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience
> > programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks
> > within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct?
> >
> > If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a
> > user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible
> > launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert
> > data into the palmtop's format.
> >
> > It seems possible also to go the other direction. Synchronization
> > would be much harder. Anyone have VBA skills?
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Cameron
>
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> If you are trying to "reach" the US readers, including US standard wire
> gauge in place of SI units would be appreciated. :)

A 1mm wire should be 0.039 in or SG20

HTH

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Hi All.

Going thru my cache of gadgets (at my wife's insistence) and I now have several
items to sell in case anyone wants them:

$50 - 2mb SRAM card (Verbatim, uses a battery which I'm getting tired of
replacing), battery still works, but probably needs replacing in a few months.

$40 - 20mb Kingston ATA flash (saved my life when my first LX was stolen!)

$10 - 5mb HP ATA flash (12v, but works in the LX)

$15 - Megahertz XJ1144 modem (if I can find it)

All of the above work in the 200LX.

The SRAM card was used in my Zoomer (aka AST Gridpad 2390)...an interesting
relic, that always seems an obvious candidate to toss, but I can't ever seem to
part with it. I transferred all the SRAM card data (Grafitti, games and
text-readers) to a spare HP 5mb flash card (not the one I'm selling), so now I
can store it indefinitely <g>.  If anyone really wants this, let me know (I have
the cables, QuickShuffle card, AMT Starcard)...but be warned it won't go cheap.

I also have an assortment of about 5 pairs of rechargeable AAs (mostly NiMH)
that work in the 200LX that I've tried before moving onto what I have now. Most
have not seen more than a few charge cycles and are just sitting unused. None
include a custom charger, since my LX was always used for that.  $10 for the
lot.

Inquiries off-list please.  Buyer pays shipping.

- Longden

PS Also, if anyone has a 16mb SanDisk CF card they'd be willing to trade for a
like 16mb Simple CF card plus something else, let me know....Sandisk works fine
in my Omnibook, but the Simple card has to go thru some gyrations each time I
use it and on top of that interferes with my other PC card (modem/LAN). Has to
be a CF card cuz I use it in my camera.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:23:23 -0800
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Daniel,

> does SC work with his swap files on flash card?

Yes, but not EMS swap files on a flash, because AGAIK, no
way to define a EMS file on anything other than C:.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Longden,

> All the dialogue about fussing with backlight add-ons reminds me of the thread
> on comp.sys.palmtops (yeah, remember them?) a couple of years ago when some hack
> in Alabama was giving everyone a blow-by-blow account of his discoveries on
> swapping the memory board to get past the 2mb limit.

That hack's name from Alabama wouldn't be Mack Baggette, by
chance, now wouldn't it?

I just had a nice long long talk with that hack today. I
cannot repeat what he all told me, but if he can we are in
for some nice times. :-)

I may be buying another palmtop or two soon :) ...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:23:20 -0800
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> >calculations.  I always chuckle when people trying to use my RPN
> >calculator (HP11C) ask how to clear it.
>
> True but I often hit 0 then press ENTER several times to clear
> the stack just so I know what state it is in.

But with RPN you don't care what the prior state was, you
_always_ have a known state, now, when you press Enter. It
is hard to explain to the non-user, but if you start doing
RPN (try it on the Palmtop's calculator, it will switch to
RPN...) then you see how stable, clear, and totally
predictable. No more hit 0 and press a few times...
Absolutely no need for it in RPN, The enter key after the
number gives you a defined, clear, unambiguous state.

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The 20mb card and batteries are SOLD.

- Longden

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>> All the dialogue about fussing with backlight add-ons reminds
>> me of the thread on comp.sys.palmtops (yeah, remember them?)
>> a couple of years ago when some hack in Alabama was giving everyone
>> a blow-by-blow account of his discoveries on swapping the memory
>> board to get past the 2mb limit.

> That hack's name from Alabama wouldn't be Mack Baggette, by
> chance, now wouldn't it?

Arise, ye of the truly faithful <g>.

> I just had a nice long long talk with that hack today. I
> cannot repeat what he all told me, but if he can we are in
> for some nice times. :-)

> I may be buying another palmtop or two soon :) ...

Now how's that for a teaser!

Maybe a Pentium LX? or 500,000 candlepower LED attachment? (use your
LX to melt the snow off your windshields!)

Or maybe he's found a way to string them together for multi-processing (boy, you
SC/SSC users
are in for it now )

OTOH, if he can just figure out how to keep the @#$% hinge from cracking, I'd be
happy.

- Longden

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> Or maybe he's found a way to string them together for multi-processing

Heh heh, an LX-based IR-networked Beowulf cluster..  Now wouldn't that be
an impressive waste of CPU cycles.. :-)

Hey David, buy up that Velcro... <insider joke grin>

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Vic,

> On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
> >The discharge curve for them is like this:
> >
> >                       ********************************
> >            ***********
> >           *
> >          *
> >         *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *
> >        *

       < 70 hrs     50 hrs   <-   20 hrs  <- 10 hrs   <- 0
> >
> > More or less. ASCII is not terribly good for charting...
>
> Avi,
>
> This shows a battery where the voltage increases with time. I
> don't think software or business types should dabble in
> hardware <g>

You have your axis wrong! :) I marked it in the quote
above...
>
> Vic
>

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:43:48 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
Subject:      UUNET POP Database

After finding out that my ISP has an arrangement with UUNET
allowing me to use all the UUNET POPs, I created a database
listing the phone numbers, and what they support (V.34, V.90
ISDN), to keep on my 200lx.

If there is any interest, I can make this available. I
periodically update the data which currently lists 720 phone
numbers (US only at this point) and is 45K in size.

Mike Kopplin
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If you can read this message, then I have had success with my
new toy ... TOOL! <g>

I now have a Smart Modular ApexData 33.6 Mobile Plus Cellular
PCMCIA V.34 modem in my 200LX.  And I have it working with
WWW/LX Plus and my Motorola SC725 cel phone.

The modem draws 130 ma from the palmtop while online and works
with lots of different cel phones with the proper cables.  It
does not have an X-Jack :-(, but there is a modular cable that
comes with it that is not a dongle, just a cable with RJ-11 at
one end and the special flat connector for the modem on the
other end.  Nice.

It works perfectly right out of the box with no worry about
init strings or whatever, even with the cel phone.  When it
senses the cel phone cable, it goes into cel phone modem
automatically.  And the cel phone automatically goes into
analog mode when it senses the modem.  Nice.

I paid $99.95 for the modem and $69.95 for the cable at Mobile
Planet.  I am now a happy camper!!


Stan

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Alright I'll bite... what's UUNET POP and what's the advantage in using it?

- Longden





Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM> on 03/31/99 01:43:48 PM

Please respond to kopplin@primenet.com

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  UUNET POP Database




After finding out that my ISP has an arrangement with UUNET
allowing me to use all the UUNET POPs, I created a database
listing the phone numbers, and what they support (V.34, V.90
ISDN), to keep on my 200lx.

If there is any interest, I can make this available. I
periodically update the data which currently lists 720 phone
numbers (US only at this point) and is 45K in size.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:51:48 -0600
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Stan,

Congratulations on your Palm Cellular setup, One question. what connect
speeds are you getting from your Cellular connection?  Anything approaching
14.4 or slower?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 3:53 PM
Subject: PCMCIA cel modem in palmtop works great!


>If you can read this message, then I have had success with my
>new toy ... TOOL! <g>
>
>I now have a Smart Modular ApexData 33.6 Mobile Plus Cellular
>PCMCIA V.34 modem in my 200LX.  And I have it working with
>WWW/LX Plus and my Motorola SC725 cel phone.
>
>The modem draws 130 ma from the palmtop while online and works
>with lots of different cel phones with the proper cables.  It
>does not have an X-Jack :-(, but there is a modular cable that
>comes with it that is not a dongle, just a cable with RJ-11 at
>one end and the special flat connector for the modem on the
>other end.  Nice.
>
>It works perfectly right out of the box with no worry about
>init strings or whatever, even with the cel phone.  When it
>senses the cel phone cable, it goes into cel phone modem
>automatically.  And the cel phone automatically goes into
>analog mode when it senses the modem.  Nice.
>
>I paid $99.95 for the modem and $69.95 for the cable at Mobile
>Planet.  I am now a happy camper!!
>
>
>Stan
>
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Someplace on the net there is a picture of a wall mounted rack with dozens
of Atari "game" class computers, arranged in a multi-processor array.  If
someone thought it was worth it to do this, a massive array of LX's would be
awesome!

Phil

(I couldn't recall the exact model of Atari, I hope I haven't offended
someone by "gaming" the Atari platform... hey, I'm an Amiga user :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Lawson ÝSMTP:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:49 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: LED experiments
>
> > Or maybe he's found a way to string them together for multi-processing
>
> Heh heh, an LX-based IR-networked Beowulf cluster..  Now wouldn't that be
> an impressive waste of CPU cycles.. :-)
>
> Hey David, buy up that Velcro... <insider joke grin>
>

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His axes was reversed, but try to do it with the axes "correct".  It takes
far more characters to image the graph with an open-ended time-line.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Meshar ÝSMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:23 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: When to replace Backup Batteries?
>
> Vic,
>
> > On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
> > >The discharge curve for them is like this:
> > >
> > >                       ********************************
> > >            ***********
> > >           *
> > >          *
> > >         *
> > >        *
> > >        *
> > >        *
        <oops>

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The 5mb card and the XJ1144 modem are now sold also.

Thanks everyone, for the interest.

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To let you all know...

WWW/LX Plus Version 2 is updated again. The target this
time is WWW.EXE. I have a new WWWLX.ZIP and also added as
WWWLX.EXE, identical to the WWWLX.ZIP but a bit larger
since it has the self extracting code.

Added IrDA support, Ricochet support (hopefully!), more
robust in many flakey connections. check out the ne stuff
on http://www.dasoft.com

Enjoy...

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:16:50 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Avi: did you get Claud's e-mail about the registration transfer of WWW/LX
Plus?

Let me know!

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 1:58 PM
Subject: WWW/LX Plus Version 2 Updated.


> To let you all know...
>
> WWW/LX Plus Version 2 is updated again. The target this
> time is WWW.EXE. I have a new WWWLX.ZIP and also added as
> WWWLX.EXE, identical to the WWWLX.ZIP but a bit larger
> since it has the self extracting code.
>
> Added IrDA support, Ricochet support (hopefully!), more
> robust in many flakey connections. check out the ne stuff
> on http://www.dasoft.com
>
> Enjoy...
>
>  Avi Meshar
>  D&A Software, Inc.
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:17:53 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some
skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience
programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks
within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct?

If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a
user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible
launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert
data into the palmtop's format.>>

If anyone comes up with a simple and reliable package to use, we
(Thaddeus Computing) will be happy to market it.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:15:01 -0500
Reply-To:     Bob Penick <bnj@iname.com>
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Regarding an earlier post about wanting Area Code info, here is a site that
has more than you will ever want to know about the numbering systems - if
you take the time to dig deeply through it.  (ie - want to know the name of
the company that is advertising a 10-10-XXX plan and other stuff like that.)
http://www.nanpa.com/
Hope this is useful to some.
Later,
bob

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:55:26 -0700
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              Michael Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: UUNET POP Database
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UUNET is an international Internet Service Provider. POP is point of
presence, or in other words a dialup.

The database would only be useful if you have a UUNET account, or if your
ISP purchases connectivity through them. In my case, I can use the UUNET
pops to connect to my ISP. This gives me many more cities I can connect
from with a local call. They also have low price limited use plans which
may work for some mobile people.

Disclaimer: I have no connection with UUNET other than by phone line.

Mike

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:

>
> Alright I'll bite... what's UUNET POP and what's the advantage in using it?
>
> - Longden
>

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:03:18 -0500
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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I posted a program that I wrote along with instructions on how to set it up
to at least be able to get Outlook appointments into a format that is usable
on the HP.  I have not heard from anyone, so I'm not sure how many want to
use it.  I don't have the format for the Outlook file(s) to be able to pull
the appointments out directly, but if someone could provide it, I would be
happy to look at it.  The stuff that I posted can be found at
http://www.pcdevel.com  The program that I wrote is in Visual Basic 5, but I
did not include a full setup for it.  If you are running VB5, you can just
run the .exe.  If anyone would like a full setup, just let me know and I
will post it.

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 8:35 AM
Subject: Outlook <=> LX


Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some
skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience
programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks
within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct?

If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a
user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible
launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert
data into the palmtop's format.

It seems possible also to go the other direction. Synchronization
would be much harder. Anyone have VBA skills?

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:46:17 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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You have to distinguish between mobile phones with an IR port
and mobile phones with an IR modem. There are many phones with
an IR port, and you may be able to exchange address information
between the phone and a computer, but if you want to use the
palmtop's IR port together with a mobile phone in order to go
online, the phone must have a built in IR modem. AFAIK, only
the Nokia 8810 and the Ericsson SH888 have build in IR modems.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:08:22 +6600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199903312158.NAA09859@ftel.net> from "A Meshar" at Mar 31,
              99 01:58:18 pm
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> WWW/LX Plus Version 2 is updated again.

Avi:

I'm a little confused about your upgrade policy.  I purchased my copy
of WWW/LX last year approx May 98 (hopefully you keep better records than
I do).  I remember it was just before I took a long family vacation in
June.

Anyway, the website says that to use a new version, I have to pay the
full price of the new version, no upgrade licenses are available for
sale.  Does this revision constitute and upgrade that I should pay
full price for, or is this a free revision?

Sorry in advance if this is a dumb question...

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:08:32 +0200
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA project
Comments: To: Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Le Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:43:21 -0300
Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR> =e9crivait:

> if i can make wortk the CF with the hp 95, think in the
> posibilities.....

I am triyng the same thing these days (HP95 + 8Mb Sandisk CF)

You can use the HP95 drivers given with the first Sundisk cards (I think
you can find them somewere on the net, if not, I can send them to you).

BUT, if the driver works there are two problemq :
- some horizontal lines appears at each disk acess,
- after a few minutes (even if your HP is off ! it is very strange) you
  go to a "low BACKUP battery" (yes backup, the main goes after !)

I think these two problems are caused bay the fact that the new CF
drains more current than the old Sundisk cards for the HP95. A solution
could be to use NiMH batteries. I have none of them currently, but you
can try.

Jacques.
------------------------------
The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites.
"You have new mail" appeared on the screen...
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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:54:16 -0500
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Does anyone know what the last version of Paradox is that will run on the
palmtop and perhaps where I can purchase a copy.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:56:47 -0800
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Subject:      Re: StockChart
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Philipe,

> Has anyone tried StockChart (http://www.leive.com/dps.htm)? What did you
> think? Anyone wants to sell it?

I think it is a fantastic product. D&A sells it now...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:56:56 -0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
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> Just after being online with 'post' in WWW/LX plus, it crashed!!!
> In Dos the message read:
> Fatal error: No mailbox named 'Mail' found
> Exiting WWW/LX
>
> I viewed the post.cfg file in filer and the only contents
> were:
> ÝSYSTEM¨
> Error=*** News2/LX ***|Must configure default NNTP-Server!
>
> I seem to be up and running again since I copied post.cfg
> from my PC backup.

I had the exact same think happen to me, except post.cfg
was totally destroyed. Since we are using two different
versions of WWW/LX Plus I am sure it is not in the product.
I use SC and I believe you do too.

I am not pointing a finger at SC because I have used it for
two years now with NO such problems, and this is the first
time, so I am also confident this is not the cause.

Until just two days ago I was using a DISK-based Resource
pool, not EMM. Two days ago I converted and installed a
2.5MB EMM for SC to use. It is quite possible that is the
source of the problems. I dunno...

> Can anyone on the HPLX list offer some explanation for this
> and offer some advice on how to prevent it in future.
>
> I run a 2x/32Mb 200LX with SSC. Post was the only program
> running in 'palmtop' 5 when it crashed.

Do you use EMM?

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:57:03 -0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
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Mikhail,

> Rian  - I would suggest that it's SC's fault. It eats too much memory.
> I've had severe destructive crashes in PostLX and in dBase, with CFG
> files wiped out, and things renamed on C: drive. I eventually got rid
> of SC and everything runs normally. And, I carry a second 200LX in my
> bag, if I really have to run several things at once.

I think you are probably incorrect, and you make a
damaging statement with no supporting evidence. SC takes
what it takes - why not accuse MSDOS that it takes memory?
C'mon!

Instead of losing your patience with it, you could set up
some good trials and research with the rest of us so we can
all find a solution. I just wrote to Rian than we should
compare setups. Did you use EMM when you had you crashes
with SC?

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:10:58 -0800
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
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> I had the exact same think happen to me, except post.cfg
> was totally destroyed. Since we are using two different
> versions of WWW/LX Plus I am sure it is not in the product.
> I use SC and I believe you do too.
> Until just two days ago I was using a DISK-based Resource
> pool, not EMM. Two days ago I converted and installed a
> 2.5MB EMM for SC to use. It is quite possible that is the
> source of the problems. I dunno...

Avi;
I use WWW/LX and POST under SC, with EMM.  I've had my post.cfg get nuked
too, from time to time.  However, this hasn't happened in a while (knock
on wood).  I keep another copy of post.cfg on my flash card, in my backup
directory, for just such occasions.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:57:56 -0800
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All the messages I posted today are sent via Ricochet
Modem! See http://www.dasoft.com - announcements.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:57:13 -0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Qman,

> My advice would be upgrade to POST/LX 2.2a that might fix your
> problem from jump street. (:-)

I run the most advanced copy (except the newer one that
Andreas already has in his machine :-) ...) and the identical
thing happened to me.

I agree with the recommendation to upgrade, but this may or
may not be helpful to Rian.

> also try running POST in session one for a while and do a
> backup of your post.cfg after every online session until you get it
> fixed.

I doubt you need to backup post.cfg each run, but I would
do so when you make some changes in the setup.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:57:41 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888?
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Martin,

> I will buy the new Nokia 7110 when it is released (if I can find the
> money)....
>
> I will test WWW/LX with it to see if I can get it to work when the time
> comes...

You may want to look at Jorgen's post. He says that only
the 8x and 9x family of Nokias support AT commands via IR.
So I think the 7x won't work.

> I guess the new WWW/LX version works with the 8810..(for some...)   I
> guess that "some" are the ones having sofware version above 4.05 on
> their 8810...

Not quite a good quote. I think all the 8810s that were
tested work fine. SH888 also ok, except one beta tester
that I know of.

> There has been problems with Psion and Ce/8810. Those with not the
> latest softwareversion has problems..(just a tip) I do not remember what
> buttons to push to view the software version but you can find this info
> on the web..

Don't know anything about it, so I cannot comment.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:57:24 -0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Chris,

> > In SC's defense, I have been using it for years and was a beta
> > tester for it.  I have never seem any of the symptoms you
> > describe.
>
> Perhaps as such a seasoned SC expert, you can explain some strange
> behaviour I'm having with SSC I recently upgraded to.  The most

It would help to pay attention to the names. SSC is Super
Software Carousel which is a product put together by
Thaddeus that includes a large number of shareware,
giveware, and freeware as well as demos, all cobbled
together into some neay packages. The underlying engine
that supports switching the machine from one "personality"
to another is SC (not SSC).

SC is Software Carousel, a product from waaaaay back
updated for the palmtops. You must set up SC to work, and
that has nothing whatsoever at all completely absolutely
(had enough yet? :-¨) with the "personality" thingy added
by SSC. If SC does not work, SSC will go down in flames.

So perhaps you can focus on one of the products, and fix
it, then work on the other, so you are not waging a battle
in two fronts!

I will ignore the part about the SSC setup, for two
reasons, I don't know enough about it, and also, get the SC
working first before you worry about SSC.

> Less alarming, but equally puzzling, is the strange observations about
> my TSRs.  I'm working on the balance between what ones I load pre-SC
> and which ones post-SC in the individual work areas.  In one instance,
> I only load the x2 driver and r32swap pre-SC, and load everything else
> post-SC in a file HP.BAT which gets invoked in WA#1.  As long as the
> SYSMGR is running, all seems well.  I can even launch into DOS using
> CTRL-123, and see all my TSRs and environment variables.  BUT, when I
> terminate SYSMGR in this WA, the resulting DOS session doesn't have
> my TSRs loaded, yet it has the environment variables set!

well, my friend, the answer is this: Lotus 123 runs inside
System Manager. When you terminate system manager you
haven't got any access or remnant or even hairs from the
hide of Lotus 123. So trying to do anything with it is
doomed!!! It is the same for trying to open Phonebook AFTER
System Manager is terminated.

> Have you ever run into these or similar problems during your beta
> testing?  I'm determined to make this work.  I set aside my first
> version of SC for the palmtop about 6 mos ago, because it was causing
> so many problems.  I later found that some of the problems were un-

I have NEVER had problems of any significance with SC.
Perhaps you are confusing it with SSC? The trick with SC is
to give it a lot of room to play in the Resource pool.

> Finally, I tried last night to install the resource pool as expanded
> memory as some had suggested on the list.  When I tried to run the
> instemm program, I was told that there wasn't enough memory to hold
> my directory buffers.  I guess I have too much stuff on my C drive.

Are you sure? If you tell instemm to install a 5MB EMM
partition, and oyu only have 2MB available in the C: drive
what is the expectation?

I am not familiar with this particular response from
INSTEMM, though... As I see it, you have too many files on
C: and the FAT is not large enough to hold all the pointers
to the clusters. Did you change the size of clusters in C:?

> BUT... if I've already optimized the C drive with the SC program,
> is there anyway to manually define a swap file for tremm's use
> without running the instemm program?

No. Again, please do not confuse things. EMM partition is
NOT a swap file for SC!!! it works in another way: EMM
looks like extra memory to various programs, such as
PKZIP/PKUNZIP, Lotus 2.4 which is NOT built-in, Agenda, and
others. SC can also use EMM to store his Workareas. So you
define EMM for multiple users, amongst them SC.

You still have to tell SC in the SCCONFIG Resource Pool
composition that it can use the EMM and how much of it! I
had a EMM of 3.5MB, but let SC use only 2.5MB of it.

The fact that Mack chose to use the name TREMM.SWP is
meaningless in terms of SC, because you can exclude SC from
using this... But it may add to the confusion.

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Jorgen,

> I had these kind of problems with the earlier versions of Software
> Carousel. But today I use the latest version of SC from Thaddeus Computing
> ,
> and not a single problem or error. It's a great software which make me
> much more productive.

Can you post the date and size of your Carousel files? I am
not sure which all are the files that are involved, but I
know some are not called *.EXE...

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> > >calculations.  I always chuckle when people trying to use my RPN
> > >calculator (HP11C) ask how to clear it.
> >
> > True but I often hit 0 then press ENTER several times to clear
> > the stack just so I know what state it is in.
>
> But with RPN you don't care what the prior state was, you
> _always_ have a known state, now, when you press Enter. It
> is hard to explain to the non-user, but if you start doing
> RPN (try it on the Palmtop's calculator, it will switch to
> RPN...) then you see how stable, clear, and totally
> predictable. No more hit 0 and press a few times...
> Absolutely no need for it in RPN, The enter key after the
> number gives you a defined, clear, unambiguous state.

I agree completely but I still do it.  Part of the reason is if
I lose track of what I'm doing and I look at the current
condition of the stack I don't have to be worried about any old
data left over from previous calculations.

I'm not saying it's the correct thing to do, just that it doesn't
hurt anything and only wastes a couple of keystrokes.

I guess you could compare my actions to tearing off the top
sheet of a pad of scratch paper (if it had old writing on it) so
I can start my new scribbles/doddles/brain storming on a fresh
sheet.

Cheers... Russ

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> It would help to pay attention to the names. SSC is Super
> Software Carousel

I appreciate the difference between them.  I was a little
sloppy in my use of them almost interchangably.

> well, my friend, the answer is this: Lotus 123 runs inside
> System Manager.

I'm aware of this, too.  But Thaddeus provided a program with the
SSC package that claims to be able to load up Lotus 123 in a SC
work area - I suspect that is must somehow invoke the system
manager to do this.  I don't have access to my manuals at the
moment, or I could quote the section describing this program.
In any event, neat as it sounds, I've yet to get it to work.

> I have NEVER had problems of any significance with SC.
> Perhaps you are confusing it with SSC? The trick with SC is
> to give it a lot of room to play in the Resource pool.

> > Finally, I tried last night to install the resource pool as expanded
> > memory as some had suggested on the list.  When I tried to run the
> > instemm program, I was told that there wasn't enough memory to hold
> > my directory buffers.  I guess I have too much stuff on my C drive.
>
> Are you sure? If you tell instemm to install a 5MB EMM
> partition, and oyu only have 2MB available in the C: drive
> what is the expectation?

No, I had plenty of RAM free on C.  And I haven't formatted
it in any peculiar way.  But I'm sticking to the SC swap file
for now, until I get my other issues solved.

> > BUT... if I've already optimized the C drive with the SC program,
> > is there anyway to manually define a swap file for tremm's use
> > without running the instemm program?
>
> No. Again, please do not confuse things. EMM partition is
> NOT a swap file for SC!!!

Yes, I understand this, too.  But the EMM driver sets aside a
presumably contiguous disk file for its use.  My questions I
think is still valid - if I can manually create such a file,
is there a way to get tremm to use it without having instemm
create one?

> You still have to tell SC in the SCCONFIG Resource Pool
> composition that it can use the EMM and how much of it!

Of course.  And I had already adjusted my SCCONFIG resource
pool, although I never actually used it in this mode since
I couldn't get the EMM driver going.

But thanks for the comments and suggestions.  I'm in the middle
of an office move right now, and am in a bit of a turmoil.  But
I do  plan to get this thing working.  Mind you , it works
after a fashion, but there are still some puzzling behaviours
that I can't explain and that also prevent me from using my
palmtop like I want.

Thanks again,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:15:40 -0500
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Subject:      HP200LX online manual.  Was: Re: World Time & daylight savin

 On 03-21 02:45am, you wrote

 > For those of you enjoying the HP200LX manual in
 HTML format, I
 > have recently aquired a manual for the HP95LX and
 as it has a
 > section on Reverse Polish Notation, I am slowly
 writing a chapter
 > for the HTML LX manual.

 I did not know the manual was available in HTML
 format, I thought it was
 only in .pdf format, and that only from Thadeus.  I
 would sure love to have
 it in HTML format for my palmtop (or better yet, in
 plain ascii format).
 Any help appreciated.

 TIA

 ddv

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Bill,

> I use WWW/LX and POST under SC, with EMM.  I've had my post.cfg get nuked
> too, from time to time.  However, this hasn't happened in a while (knock
> on wood).  I keep another copy of post.cfg on my flash card, in my backup
> directory, for just such occasions.

Great. It seems to me we all use different versions of
WWW/LX Plus and I doubt it is a WWW/LX Plus issue. It also
looks like a common thread is that we use EMM and SC.

Ok, Brainiacs! What does it look like? Ideas? Methods to
capture what happens? Preponderance of evidence?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> > WWW/LX Plus Version 2 is updated again.
>
> Avi:
>
> I'm a little confused about your upgrade policy.  I purchased my copy
> of WWW/LX last year approx May 98 (hopefully you keep better records than
> I do).  I remember it was just before I took a long family vacation in
> June.

Look again. I said "upDATEd", not "upGRADEd". Updates are
free. UPGRADES will cost money. End of policy!

> Anyway, the website says that to use a new version, I have to pay the

New version by comparioson to VERSION 1 - you already
bought VERSION 2. Please stop this!!!! Sheesh...


    UPDATES     =============   FREE!!!!!!!!!


    UPGRADES    =============   $$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!

Enough!

> full price of the new version, no upgrade licenses are available for
> sale.

Right. I do not upgrade into WWW/LX Plus Version 2 (like
the one you have) any more since January 1 1999 at
midnight. the UPGRADES (GRADES) were available for 9
months from APRIL 5, 1998 until midnight December 31, 1998.

Is it really hard?

> Does this revision constitute and upgrade that I should pay
> full price for, or is this a free revision?

I don't publish revisions. I publish UPDATES and they are
free.

> Sorry in advance if this is a dumb question...

Not dumb just a nuisance because you have lazy eyes that
read "update" and "upgrade" as the same word.

I am gonna remove ALL MENTION of upgrades from the Webpage
now until we do something like this, so your eyes never
have to stumble on this stuff any more.

AGAIN:::

U P D A T E S   =====>   F R E E

U P G R A D E S   ====>  We'll see, but probably $$$

Thanks for the heads up!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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