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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 00:24:21 -0400
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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> > Use ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/setcom.zip
>
> Thanks Avi - I thought I knew the subdir's of DASoft by heart by now
> (G).

Gee! You mean I'll have to take away a point from you? :-)
Nevermind! You help out enough and extremely well, as do
othe D&A beta testers... Thank you!

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 00:26:54 -0400
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Is there a way to use a credit card to automatically dial from
POST/LX?  I have been unable to do it by just entering the
numbers.
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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 09:14:53 +0300
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Thanks!
I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess

Thanks Yehuda.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack LaRosa Ýmailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net¨
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 10:28 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: chess


Hi Yehuda

Sunday, April 30, 2000, you wrote to the list:

EY> Hello!

EY> Can some recommend a good free chess program for my 200lx?

Try PowerChess on the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Go to: http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

and do a search on chess.


TIA,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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I have a keyboard that was originally developed for us with the Palm that
works with either the original Newton Keyboard driver or the T2T driver
that's being beta tested. All you need besides the driver is standard HP
serial cable. However, as I've mentioned previously, the Jornada keyboard is
probably nicer than the unit that I have.

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> $B:9=P?M (J : Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
> $B08@h (J : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> $B7oL> (J : Keyboard Drivers
> $BAw?.F|;~ (J : 2000 $BG/ (J 5 $B7n (J 1 $BF| (J ( $B7n (J) 9:12 AM
>

> Almost two years ago I heard about a proposed project either here or on
> Compuserve to create a device which would allow a regular PS2 keyboard to
> be used with the 200lx.  That project obviously never came of anything
> and the product remains vaporware.  Almost...
>
> The Happy Hacking Cradle (
> http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhcindex.html ) for Palm devices
> allows you to drop your Palm in the cradle, hook up any keyboard
> (including the rollup keyboard - http://www.man-machine.com/keybrd1.htm )
> and type away.  It even has a "pass-through" port so you can still use
> the modem when attached to the cradle.
>
> I wonder why an adapter cord or even an internal modification to the unit
> wouldn't allow it to be used for the 200lx?  The Palm has a well
> documented RS232 port so there probably isn't anything tricky in the
> connection.  The only issue would appear to be the keyboard driver.  I
> know nothing about such things but wouldn't that be relatively
> straight-forward?  After all, its been done for the Jornada and Newton
> keyboards.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:58:52 -0500
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Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>

Please check out the new keyboard for the HP 200LX on www.palmtoppaper.com

I tested the keyboard for several weeks and found it acceptable. Mack, who
wrote the driver, may be working on a driver for a standard PS2 keyboard, if
one could be found that drew minimal power from the Ptop.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:29:41 -0400
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I bought a 48 Mb Simple Tech CF from Scott just last week. Time from me mailing
my check to recepit of CF card was 5 days. Very pleased with the service. Card
worked fine in both my Windoze machine and my HP 200LX.

Brian

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I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 06:31:50 CDT
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I've seen the keyboard and while nice, am more interested in something
working with both the Palm and the 200lx.

The power problem isn't an issue with the Happy Hacking cradle.  It
supplies its own power with 2 AA batteries.

Larry Zimmerman

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:58:52 -0500 Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> writes:
>Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
>
>Please check out the new keyboard for the HP 200LX on
>www.palmtoppaper.com
>
>I tested the keyboard for several weeks and found it acceptable. Mack,
>who
>wrote the driver, may be working on a driver for a standard PS2
>keyboard, if
>one could be found that drew minimal power from the Ptop.
>
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Does anyone have the URL where the GDBWIN program is located. I thought I'd
bookmarked the location. Apparently not!

I've been using GDBWIN (Japanese version of 200LX NoteTaker, Database,
PhoneBook) for a month or more. It has become the most used program on my
WinBox (after NetNav and Outlook Express) I'm using GDBWIN as a faster
version of the CPack database apps. I can copy and paste from a text editor
which is not easy to do with the DOS version of CPack. Cool!  Wish I could
read Japanese. I'm using only 50% of all the features of the program. (If
the features are actually there and not just place-holders for a newer
version of the program.)

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From the "Duh, why didn't I think of this before category" :

Instead of using F4 (Find) in the Ptop's databases to find something, why
not use the Subset button. It may be less direct than F4, but the advantages
are that you can create SSL statements to find all records where
Note#"find"&Note#"database"&Category#"CD"  which gets a list of all the
records whose Note field contains the three words.

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Sure.  What would yo like to know?  Recent posts give a
description of InfoSelect's main functions.  To them I would
add that InfoSelect can be used as a TSR, it can copy the
entire foreground screen (but not part of it), it can paste
any number of its note windows into the foreground program,
and a utility it comes with allows it to only take 7k of
main memory as a TSR.  Searching inside large notes is very
fast, and  Find and Replace is pretty powerful (it lets you
search and replace hard returns and extended ASCII
characters).  Also, it can do line drawing with the cursor,
it can extract lines of information from all notes into a
new note (though this has a few limitations), and one of my
favorite fuctions, it allows you to create up to 8  windows
which can pop up a the push of a key (useful for hard to
remember commands or reference).  It lets you do approximate
searches.  It has a bookmark function. It also recognizes
many Wordstar and WordPerfect commands, and it has a type of
undo command.  And of course there is more, but these are
the functions I use frequently.
Sorry for the rambling style.

Domingo

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From: David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 28, 2000 7:16:08 AM GMT
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?


On 2000-04-14 Domingo said:

Hmm.  I use Flexpad on a weekly basis and am curious about
the capabilities of InfoSelect.  Perhaps we should compare
notes?

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 08:23:55 -0500
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<<<OS X *server* has been available for some months. OS X *client*
has
been eagerly awaited for the same months. It HAD been announced for
4Q00.>>>

I'm sure they called this OS 10.  It may be a renaming of OS X or a
reporter's mistake.  But they did say that there would be an
entirely new GUI and that the underlying OS was modelled after unix.

So, who knows.  Maybe its the same thing filtered through the press.
Maybe not.

<<<It has TRUE PREEMPTIVE multitasking (which, I am compelled to
point
out, has been available in the Amiga's operating system since 1985,
when it could multitask in color with 512K of memory and 1 floppy
drive (!)).>>>>

I'm sorry but I just can't allow you to get away with bragging about
your Amiga having pre-emptive multitasking as "late" as 1985 when my
Radio Shack Color Computer (64k memory) running OS-9 not only had
pre-emptive multiasking around 1981 if I remember right, but was
also a realtime system.  So there!

<<<OS X also has memory protection, however, which is a GREAT
improvement as well.>>>

Ok, ok.  OS-9 didn't have memory protection but that was useful.
You could load data modules that could be shared by multiple apps,
something like the way DLL's are used now.  But it never occurred to
me to put an index in one.  I used jump tables in them and hardcoded
the addresses into programs that used them.

Actually that makes for a better system as long as all the
programmers cooperate and don't screw up and don't do anything they
shouldn't do.

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 09:26:20 -0400
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One of the chess program with the best graphics I have seen
is bluchess.   I used it before I got my hplx.  It was in
one of the old ftp sites, but now I cannot find it anymore.
(Last known link was
ftp://chess.onenet.net/pub/chess/DOS/OLD-STUFF/
But the link is not working.   Anyone heard of this?  I do
believe it is freeware.

I found a more recent link to it and other DOS chess
programs at http://www.chess.imaginot.com/Programs/DOS/
but it appears not to be working either.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 1, 2000 6:14:53 AM GMT
Subject: Re: chess


Thanks!
I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess

Thanks Yehuda.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack LaRosa Ýmailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net¨
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 10:28 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: chess


Hi Yehuda

Sunday, April 30, 2000, you wrote to the list:

EY> Hello!

EY> Can some recommend a good free chess program for my
200lx?

Try PowerChess on the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Go to: http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

and do a search on chess.


TIA,
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<<<<There is a new mouse driver on the Super Site. This is a tiny
mouse driver
that is supposed to function with your logitech mouse. You can find
it at the
Super Site listed as:>>>>

What we really need is some way to replace mouse functions with
keypresses.  The driver wouldn't be hard to write.  But I've never
been able to come up with a decent way to make keys replace a mouse,
even minimilly.  Does anyone have any ideas about that?

I asked this on CIS a few years ago and got no answers.  But we're
all older and wiser now.  And maybe a little more desperate.

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 07:57:07 -0600
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One of the best chess programs around is the commercial Fritz product. The
latest version to run on the HP200LX is FRITZ 2. It's an old version they
don't advertise anymore but it is still available. Contact them at

www.chessbase.com

I don't remember the price but I think it was something like $30.


At 09:26 AM 5/1/00 -0400, you wrote:
>One of the chess program with the best graphics I have seen
>is bluchess.   I used it before I got my hplx.  It was in
>one of the old ftp sites, but now I cannot find it anymore.
>(Last known link was
>ftp://chess.onenet.net/pub/chess/DOS/OLD-STUFF/
>But the link is not working.   Anyone heard of this?  I do
>believe it is freeware.
>
>I found a more recent link to it and other DOS chess
>programs at http://www.chess.imaginot.com/Programs/DOS/
>but it appears not to be working either.
>
>Domingo
>
>------Original Message------
>From: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Sent: May 1, 2000 6:14:53 AM GMT
>Subject: Re: chess
>
>
>Thanks!
>I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess
>
>Thanks Yehuda.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jack LaRosa Ýmailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net¨
>Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 10:28 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: Re: chess
>
>
>Hi Yehuda
>
>Sunday, April 30, 2000, you wrote to the list:
>
>EY> Hello!
>
>EY> Can some recommend a good free chess program for my
>200lx?
>
>Try PowerChess on the S.U.P.E.R. site.
>
>Go to: http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
>
>and do a search on chess.
>
>
>TIA,
>Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net
>
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So hang onto your LX, and use it as the terminal to drive this little
beasty!!



Timothy P Kelley wrote:
>
> This is all very exciting but does it have a keyboard?
> Tim
>
> > Have you folks seen this one?  The "YOPY" Linux PDA has:
> >
> > 4" TFT colour LCD & backlight
> > 206 MHz 32-bit ARM RISC CPU
> > 32 MB RAM
> > Mobile Linux OS
> > Embedded browser & email client
> > CF slot
> > MP3 Player
> > 4 Mbps IrDA transceiver
> > RS232C & USB port
> > 1400mA rechargeable LiIon battery
> > stylus & handwriting recognition
> > etc.
> > etc.
> >
> > have a look at <http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/>
> > and <http://www.gicom.de/yopy/>
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I have bluchess on my LX.

I guess all the sites that formerly carried the program have dropped it, or the
sites aren't operational.

I don't use it much, not being a chess buff, but I thought I heard some list
members mention that it wasn't much of a challenge.

Email me if you'd like a copy (it was freeware), tho all I have is the 46k
executable and no more readme's or text.

- Longden





dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> on 05/01/2000 06:26:20 AM

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Subject:  Re: chess




One of the chess program with the best graphics I have seen
is bluchess.   I used it before I got my hplx.  It was in
one of the old ftp sites, but now I cannot find it anymore.
(Last known link was
ftp://chess.onenet.net/pub/chess/DOS/OLD-STUFF/
But the link is not working.   Anyone heard of this?  I do
believe it is freeware.

I found a more recent link to it and other DOS chess
programs at http://www.chess.imaginot.com/Programs/DOS/
but it appears not to be working either.

Domingo

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From: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 1, 2000 6:14:53 AM GMT
Subject: Re: chess


Thanks!
I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess

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<< But I would like to know if
the memory upgrades will still be availible in the future? I would like
a 32 or a 64mb upgrade, but that will not happen any time soon.

I have been told that the memory upgrades are custom made and therefor
expencive.>>

Yes, we will continue to offer memory/speed upgrades probably as long as we
continue to support the 200LX -- for a long time. These upgrades are custom
made with parts ordered in  small volume. They are custom installed and we
assume warranty expense. Overall volume is relatively low. All these factors
contribute to pricing.

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 10:26:05 -0400
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Hello there

Maybe this is interesting for anybody..I found the orginal message in
comp.sys.handhelds the other day.. I mailed him and he still got it..

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway


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On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> sundor96@assets.wharton.upenn.edu wrote:
>
> > I wonder, is there any market for a barely used MB HP LX200?
> > Hinge is still tight, in other words, and no scratches.
> > One with a 5 MB chip for the RAM instead of the usual 2 MB.
> > I just missed by a few weeks getting a 6 MB chip RAM put in.
> > Need that in case I were to use Procomm although the included
> > VT100 Data Comm software appears fine for a dialup and getting
> > mail and basic surfing.
> >
> > I set the thing up and then lost interest, got the cables,
> > the software, even Software Carousel, the extra RAM, a
> > USR low-voltage XJ, and one that comes with MNP10 for cellular,
> > because it was made in Canada I presume, unlike the local
> > ones, XJ1144, that is. Have the manuals, even the original
> > boxes in storage. Have some memory cards but would like to
> > save those for use with my laptop.
> >
> > Was amazed to see this 2 MB version, alone, going for $400
> > on eBay. On one hand I hate to sell it, since it is the
> > world's last and smallest production MSDOS machine. On the
> > other hand, I have 2 power supplies, and all sorts of doo-dads
> > just sitting around.
> >
> > Thinking of selling it and other things like this so I can
> > just got a laptop with a respectable pentium that could run
> > some software a bit faster than my current but venerable
> > non-Pentium IBM laptop which functions fine, just slow.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Adam
>
> Hello there
>
> Do you still have the unit? I have too many myself but I was thinking of
> posting your message to a Hplx mailinglist if you do not mind..
>
> Please reply to martin@mobilpost.com
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
>

Then he replied:


Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:19:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Adam Sundor <sundor96@wharton.upenn.edu>
To: Martin Bergvill <martin.bergvill@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Any market for 5 MB LX200?

Thanks, have the unit, including the HP power supply with the
folding prongs, then Window 3.1 that was compatible with the
what was it, Quicken on the LX200, probably even still have
the registration and nameplate unused not that that matters.
Have the night light that attaches to it. Have NiMH that appears
to work just fine and longer than the official NiCD batteries.
And light too.

Thanks for your interest, Martin. Did not know folks were still
interested. Probably have the complete set of MSDOS 5.0 still
around too.

Adam

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<<Couldn't you just buy the rights to the 200LX and get someone to make
a few thousand for your own sales inventory? Is HP that tight with
there patents or copy right inventions? Look at the Apollo printers
using HP technology? Or economically is it even worth considering?

I'm sure you could get some entity willing to make you a large number
etc, for the right price?>>

For many reasons HP will not even consider selling the rights.  Also, one of
the reasons HP stopped making them was the cost of hard to get parts such as
screens in relatively low quantities.

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Longden,
I'm going to impose on your generosity and ask if you could send me a copy
of Bluchess.
If it's too much trouble, no problem.
Thanks,
Bob Roberts

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From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: chess


>I have bluchess on my LX.
>
>I guess all the sites that formerly carried the program have dropped it, or
the
>sites aren't operational.
>
>I don't use it much, not being a chess buff, but I thought I heard some
list
>members mention that it wasn't much of a challenge.
>
>Email me if you'd like a copy (it was freeware), tho all I have is the 46k
>executable and no more readme's or text.
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> on 05/01/2000 06:26:20 AM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
respond
>      to dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
>
>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
>Subject:  Re: chess
>
>
>
>
>One of the chess program with the best graphics I have seen
>is bluchess.   I used it before I got my hplx.  It was in
>one of the old ftp sites, but now I cannot find it anymore.
>(Last known link was
>ftp://chess.onenet.net/pub/chess/DOS/OLD-STUFF/
>But the link is not working.   Anyone heard of this?  I do
>believe it is freeware.
>
>I found a more recent link to it and other DOS chess
>programs at http://www.chess.imaginot.com/Programs/DOS/
>but it appears not to be working either.
>
>Domingo
>
>------Original Message------
>From: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Sent: May 1, 2000 6:14:53 AM GMT
>Subject: Re: chess
>
>
>Thanks!
>I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess
>
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>

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------Original Message------
From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 1, 2000 2:11:48 PM GMT
Subject: Re: chess

I don't use it much, not being a chess buff, but I thought I
heard some list members mention that it wasn't much of a
challenge.

****
That's good.  I am not that good at chess. :-p
****

Email me if you'd like a copy (it was freeware), tho all I
have is the 46k executable and no more readme's or text.

****
I would like a  copy, thanks
****

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Whoops, meant to send this back channel.
My apologies to the list.
BLUSHING Bob

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: chess


>Longden,
>I'm going to impose on your generosity and ask if you could send me a copy
>of Bluchess.
>If it's too much trouble, no problem.
>Thanks,
>Bob Roberts
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:18 AM
>Subject: Re: chess
>
>
>>I have bluchess on my LX.
>>
>>I guess all the sites that formerly carried the program have dropped it,
or
>the
>>sites aren't operational.
>>
>>I don't use it much, not being a chess buff, but I thought I heard some
>list
>>members mention that it wasn't much of a challenge.
>>
>>Email me if you'd like a copy (it was freeware), tho all I have is the 46k
>>executable and no more readme's or text.
>>
>>- Longden
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> on 05/01/2000 06:26:20 AM
>>
>>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
>respond
>>      to dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
>>
>>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
>>Subject:  Re: chess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>One of the chess program with the best graphics I have seen
>>is bluchess.   I used it before I got my hplx.  It was in
>>one of the old ftp sites, but now I cannot find it anymore.
>>(Last known link was
>>ftp://chess.onenet.net/pub/chess/DOS/OLD-STUFF/
>>But the link is not working.   Anyone heard of this?  I do
>>believe it is freeware.
>>
>>I found a more recent link to it and other DOS chess
>>programs at http://www.chess.imaginot.com/Programs/DOS/
>>but it appears not to be working either.
>>
>>Domingo
>>
>>------Original Message------
>>From: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Sent: May 1, 2000 6:14:53 AM GMT
>>Subject: Re: chess
>>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess
>>
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>>
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> G=FCnther Eisele wrote:
> > I also got the information that the standard obliges mail clients to
> > decode both encodings, which means as a consequence that post/lx is n=
ot
> > conforming to the standard here.
>=20
> Which standard?=20

RFC 2047 (7.)

>>
(...)
A mail reading program claiming compliance with this specification
   must be able to distinguish 'encoded-word's from 'text', 'ctext', or
   'word's, according to the rules in section 6, anytime they appear in
   appropriate places in message headers.  It must support both the "B"
   and "Q" encodings for any character set which it supports.  The
   program must be able to display the unencoded text if the character
   set is "US-ASCII".  For the ISO-8859-* character sets, the mail
   reading program must at least be able to display the characters which
   are also in the ASCII set.
<<

Please post XOR mail.

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Ace Frehley wrote:
>
> Couldn't you just buy the rights to the 200LX and get someone to make
> a few thousand for your own sales inventory? Is HP that tight with
> there patents or copy right inventions? Look at the Apollo printers
> using HP technology? Or economically is it even worth considering?
>
> I'm sure you could get some entity willing to make you a large number
> etc, for the right price?
>

Hmm. Let's see. Let's look at the issue of `Lawyer's hours per palmtop to
be produced'. If palmtops are `worth' $500 each, and if the hardware costs
about half of that, we have about 1 lawyer's hour to play with for each
palmtop you are going to build, not counting _all_ other costs. My guess is that
even opening the issue in a large corporation would cost a few thousand hours.
Can you imagine the number of documents involved in properly tying down the
`release' of `patents or copy right inventions'? My guess is that there would
be at least _hundreds_ of documents involved, and that each document would
require legal review, redraft, ... Thousands of hours would disappear, (all
to no particular profit to HP, might I add, unless they not only fully billed
out their legal costs, but added a mark-up on them).

It seems to me clear that you couldn't make the units for less than about twice
what they cost HP to produce (they were in the business already, after all)
and if HP couldn't make money on them it seems to me _very_ unlikely that
someone else could.

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Please unsubcribe me from the HPLX-L list, thank you

mit freundlichen Gruessen / with best regards,

Michael Berrier

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 00:23:39 -0700
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It seems that my original post got lost somewhere, at least it's not in the
Digest (undigested? :) so here it is again (sorry) in response to the
question of whether it has a keyboard (it doesn't)

The "YOPY" Linux PDA has:

4" TFT colour LCD & backlight
206 MHz 32-bit ARM RISC CPU
32 MB RAM
Mobile Linux OS
Embedded browser & email client
CF slot
MP3 Player
4 Mbps IrDA transceiver
RS232C & USB port
1400mA rechargeable LiIon battery
(Palm-like) stylus & handwriting recognition
etc.
etc.

have a look at <http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/>
and <http://www.gicom.de/yopy/>

It's apparently slated for release this summer, at around $500(!)

It's another keyboardless-device, so it looks like it'd be a nice thing
to connect to, perhaps via the LX's IR or serial port, or for file transfer
using CF.  Since it also lacks a PCMCIA slot, but has many dreamed-about or
wished-for features not found in the LX, it's interesting to think about how
the two devices might complement rather than replace each other.


Team 200LX, Vancouver

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who would be interested in buying a brandnew HP Jornada 690 ??
Please mail, thank you

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<<Almost two years ago I heard about a proposed project either here or on
Compuserve to create a device which would allow a regular PS2 keyboard to
be used with the 200lx.  That project obviously never came of anything
and the product remains vaporware.>>

OK, once again I will preannounce a product that SHOULD be available late
June or July.

First, we have just ordered LOTS of 200LX serial cables which we expect to
receive at the end of May. This is good news in itself because it means
there will be enough 200LX cables for the foreseeable future.

Now we will be able to now attach the 200LX serial plug (rather than a 9 pin
plug) to the Jornada keyboard we sell.  (Those who already bought a Jornada
keyboard from us or who order a Jornada keyboard now for the 200LX with
standard serial port will be able to upgrade at under our cost for the
cable, labor, and shipping, probably $20).

Secondly, Mack discovered and wrote a driver for a product, literally a
black box, which interfaces between a standard, desktop, Windows PS/2
keyboard and the 200LX.  The good news is that Mack has both a serial and an
IR connection working.

So, the way it works:
1.  Install Mack's custom keyboard software onto the 200LX
2. Connect standard desktop PS/2 keyboard (or a portable one which we will
also sell) to the box
3. Connect the box to the palmtop either with a serial or IR cable.  Both
cables plug into the box. The 200LX of the serial cable will have a 200LX
plug.  The 200LX end of the IR cable has a little IR embedded eye.  The IR
cable is itself both movable and stiff so that it easily allows the user to
line up the two IR eyes.

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I've gotten four requests now for copies of the BLUCHESS chess program, which
I've sent out already.

If someone can refresh my memory, how can I get this guy put on the SUPER site
so it doesn't get lost?  Thanks.

- Longden

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that would be nice to have a reasonable chess program on the SUPER site will
watch for that. Thanks for your effort.
Michael B.

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:37 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Bluchess


I've gotten four requests now for copies of the BLUCHESS chess program,
which
I've sent out already.

If someone can refresh my memory, how can I get this guy put on the SUPER
site
so it doesn't get lost?  Thanks.

- Longden

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Longen,

Thanks for your comments on FrameWork IV on the 200LX list.  FW4 is still
an excellent tool and frankly I much prefer it to the standard fare Windows
word processors.

It is a shame that the Windows world has standardized on only three rather
bloated word processors and ignored the potential in programmes such as
Framework, Symphony, GrandView, etc.  The focus on fonts, graphics, etc.
has overshadowed the lack of innovation in basic program functionality.
Pretty presentations are not necessarily well written or insightful
presentations.  All of the old sayings about sizzle rather than steak come
readily to mind.

Given the interest that the outliner thread variations have generated,
there might be some benefit in doing a series of reports and/or reviews on
some of the old DOS classics.  I suspect that many of us have kept our
200LX's because there are no good  alternatives, portable or otherwise, to
the DOS programmes that we rely upon in our daily lives.

I am painfully aware of the various technical difficulties with the WinCE
alternatives (dismal battery life, overly large form factors, etc).
However, I would give up my 200LX for an updated 200LX size computer that
provided programmes with the same solid basic functionality as Framework,
Symphony, GrandView, etc.  In other words, like most of us on this list, I
want both real portability and heavy weight programmes.

Again, thanks Longen for your many contributions to the list.

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 15:38:23 -0400
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              geologist@MINDSPRING.COM
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Longden,

If you send me a copy of Bluechess, I will post it to my FTP Site for a
a period of months. If anyone else wants the program you can refer them
to it.

William E. Blankenship

> I have bluchess on my LX.
>
> I guess all the sites that formerly carried the program have dropped =
it, or the
> sites aren't operational.
>
> I don't use it much, not being a chess buff, but I thought I heard some =
list
> members mention that it wasn't much of a challenge.
>
> Email me if you'd like a copy (it was freeware), tho all I have is the =
46k
> executable and no more readme's or text.
>
> - Longden
>
> dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> on 05/01/2000 06:26:20 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please =
respond
>       to dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Re: chess
>
> One of the chess program with the best graphics I have seen
> is bluchess.   I used it before I got my hplx.  It was in
> one of the old ftp sites, but now I cannot find it anymore.
> (Last known link was
> ftp://chess.onenet.net/pub/chess/DOS/OLD-STUFF/
> But the link is not working.   Anyone heard of this?  I do
> believe it is freeware.
>
> I found a more recent link to it and other DOS chess
> programs at http://www.chess.imaginot.com/Programs/DOS/
> but it appears not to be working either.
>
> Domingo
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Sent: May 1, 2000 6:14:53 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: chess
>
> Thanks!
> I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess
>
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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 15:38:34 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Keyboard Drivers
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Hal,

I bought one of the Jornada keyboards just last week with the
large, serial nine pin connector attached. I prefered to have
this plug directly into my 200LX so I snipped the ned off one
of my HP connectivity cables an soldered it into the keyboard
after unsoldering the nine pin serial cable.

The question is, will you ship me a connectivity cable for the
$20.00 dollars mentioned? If so, you have my master card number
on file. Just send me an email confirmation and send the cable
to the address listed in your files. I was about to order
another cable from you but seeing this email, I thought I would
respond.

William E. Blankenship

P.S. This keyboard sure makes keying in large volumns of data
quick. The best thing about it is it works with all my software
unlike the Newton keyboard.

> Now we will be able to now attach the 200LX serial plug (rather than a =
9 pin
> plug) to the Jornada keyboard we sell.  (Those who already bought a =
Jornada
> keyboard from us or who order a Jornada keyboard now for the 200LX with
> standard serial port will be able to upgrade at under our cost for the
> cable, labor, and shipping, probably $20).

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 14:00:59 -0700
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              Louis Di Fazio <louisthx@VEGAS.INFI.NET>
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I have a chess game called 'Now Chess' Running on my HP. I forgot where I
down loaded it from, but I had it on my HP for 5+ years and it is a great
version of the game. The game is shareware If the Super Site doesn't have
it I can send you a copy of it.

Louis Di Fazio

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Date:         Mon, 1 May 2000 16:36:43 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From William E. Blankenship

<<I bought one of the Jornada keyboards just last week with the
large, serial nine pin connector attached. I prefered to have
this plug directly into my 200LX so I snipped the ned off one
of my HP connectivity cables an soldered it into the keyboard
after unsoldering the nine pin serial cable.

The question is, will you ship me a connectivity cable for the
$20.00 dollars mentioned? If so, you have my master card number
on file. Just send me an email confirmation and send the cable
to the address listed in your files.>>

OK.  Consider it confirmed.

<<P.S. This keyboard sure makes keying in large volumns of data
quick. The best thing about it is it works with all my software
unlike the Newton keyboard. >>

Yes, everyone who uses it really likes it.

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Berrier, Michael wrote:
>
> who would be interested in buying a brandnew HP Jornada 690 ??
> Please mail, thank you
>
> mit freundlichen Gruessen / with best regards,
>
> Michael Berrier
>
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As always how much?? and what accessories
                       Bob E

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 04:54:00 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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> Does anyone have the URL where the GDBWIN program is located. I thought I'd
> bookmarked the location. Apparently not!
Ed, try this:

http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 00:54:44 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET and others...

Thanks for the URL to GDBWIN. Now bookmarked.

Another cool way to use GDBWIN is to run multiple copies of the program.
Cutting and pasting from one database's notes field to another is a
snap--a lot easier than trying to do the same thing in CPack or even on the
Palmtop (assuming default clipboard size.)

Using a standard .NDB file I can copy whole records from one NoteTaker file
and paste it in another NDB file.  I don't think the same would be true for
copying and pasting records from one custom database to another in which the
record structures are different. (That would be asking for trouble.)

.ed.

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 06:48:09 +0100
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: paging when Email arrives
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On 29 Apr 2000, at 4:42, Martin wrote:

> I would like a free service so I can set up additional emaiadresses and
> get a sms when it recevies any email.. I guess you have to pay to have
> GMX or have to have a german phonenumber to get the service you got?
>
no. Gmx in its basic functions is free. You could use it with your
mobilpost email adress.
http://www.gmx.net

regards,
Werner



Thought for the day:
    Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting
    for the TV repairman.

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 14:38:47 +0800
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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 03:26:40 -0400
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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On 30 Apr 2000 12:40:36 -0700, "William E. Blankenship" <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:

> If you send me a copy of Bluechess, I will post it to my FTP Site for a
> a period of months. If anyone else wants the program you can refer them
> to it.

Longden very kindly sent me a copy, so I'll add it to the
site at http://games.hplx.net soon.

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 09:53:14 +0200
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              =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?=
              <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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              <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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Keith,

> I use OE5 to read my mail, and as you see below, your name becomes 'G-n=
ther'
> although the mail reader can read and display the umlaut correctly.

yes, but this is related to the topic "bug in 2.2g", see my posting on
that. In the new version (but not in any old versions) post/lx replaces t=
he
umlaut in my name directly when composing a new message (or replying) wit=
h
the hyphen. Then it doesn't - of course - encode the umlaut, because ther=
e
is just the hyphen. Yesterday I posted my message with 2.2g, because at t=
he
same time I sent a msg to support@dasoft.com because of that (to show
post/lx's behaviour).

The problem with the different encoding occurs only when I read mails wit=
h
post/lx that have headers with base64 coding.=20

I'm writing this mail with 2.2f, so you should see the correct '=FC' in m=
y
first name.

Bye
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 10:50:50 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Availability
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Hi friends,

On Mon, 1 May 2000 09:26:38 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> For many reasons HP will not even consider selling the rights.  Also, one of
> the reasons HP stopped making them was the cost of hard to get parts such as
> screens in relatively low quantities.

Oh, yes! I talked to Hitachi (the screen makers) at Cebit in February,
because I wanted to know if it's possible to get replacement screens
for the LX. There was no person available so they told me they would
tell the person who can answer my question that he shall call me back.

No call until now.

Thanks for the reminder - I'll try to reach this person! :-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 10:51:35 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Subject:      Re: LX's numeric key pad
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Tue,  2 May 2000 09:31:45 -0400 (EDT)

07h31s ago ...
On Tue,  2 May 2000, Roger S. wrote:

> Is there any difference between LX's numeric key pad and the one in
> desktop keyboard?

YES!  They are different.  AFAIK the numeric pad on the LX is the same
as the as the top-row numbers on a "normal" keyboard.  If you have the
manual, there should be more info, including key combinations to
produce the equivalent of the numeric pad keys.  If you don't have a
manual, I believe Thaddeus still has some available.


HTH

Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 10:14:41 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> I'm sure they called this OS 10.  It may be a renaming of OS X or a
> reporter's mistake.  But they did say that there would be an
> entirely new GUI and that the underlying OS was modelled after unix.
>
Apparently it's pronounced "OS 10" but spelled "OS X", where "X" is the Roman
numeral ten.

The new GUI is named (codenamed?) Aqua. See here for details:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 16:18:42 +0200
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English PG DN

Teilnehmerliste: Stand 02.05.00 16:00 Uhr

Am Samstag, den 6. Mai 2000, 15.00 Uhr findet wieder unser
traditionelles Internationales hp handheld Meeting statt.

Teilnehmer zum Zeitpunkt als die Email versendet wurde:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter
 Max Steger
 Engelbert Hartl
 Thomas Krug
 Werner Furlan
 Tony Hutchins
 Stefan Peichl

 Organisation: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Ort:          M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Termin:       06.05.2000 15.00 Uhr bis open end

Das Seehaus liegt im Englischen Garten, am Klein Hesseloer See.

Adresse: Klein Hesselohe 3, 80802 M=FCnchen, Tel. +49-89-381 61 30.

Auf dem Isarring in Richtung Osten, zwischen John F. Kennedy
Br=FCcke und Effner Platz, dem Schild folgen > Seehaus. Parkplatz
ist vor der T=FCr.

Einen Auszug aus dem Falkplan, (GIF Datei, Schwarz/Wei=DF oder Farbe),
versende ich gerne auf Wunsch.

Wir freuen uns auf Euer Kommen!

Herzlicher Gru=DF

Helmuth und Caroline
______________________________________

English (short version):

List of participants, date 05/02/00, 04.00 pm

Saturday Mai 6th 2000, 3.00 pm our traditional international hp handheld
meeting will take place.

Participants when email was sent:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter
 Max Steger
 Engelbert Hartl
 Thomas Krug
 Werner Furlan
 Tony Hutchins
 Stefan Peichl

 Organization: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Place:        M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Date:         05/06/00 3.00 pm open end

More details on request.

Looking forward to meet you there.

Regards

Helmuth and Caroline

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 22:25:05 +0800
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Subject:      Remap blue keys to act as numeric keys in DOS program
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Is there a program that can remap the blue keys to use as numeric key =
(same as the separated numeric key pad on the desktop key board) in a =
DOS program? I need only number 1~4 & 6~9, so 8-keys are good enough. =
any suggestion?

It will be great if it can be load and unload by a batch file.

TIA.

Roger S.


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Look at d:\bin\key200.com and d:\bin\key200.txt

Key200 should be able to do the remapping, since I already use it to remap some
of my blue keys.

And it's loaded as a TSR (which can be removed by running it a 2nd time).

- Longden





"R.S." <rogerswn@I-CABLE.COM> on 05/02/2000 07:25:05 AM

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Subject:  Remap blue keys to act as numeric keys in DOS program




Is there a program that can remap the blue keys to use as numeric key (same as
the separated numeric key pad on the desktop key board) in a DOS program? I need
only number 1~4 & 6~9, so 8-keys are good enough. any suggestion?

It will be great if it can be load and unload by a batch file.

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I have the program at home, but I tried to download it at
work for use in my work pc, and I get the following message:

<< Forbidden

You do not have permission to access this document.

Binary files stored on FreeServers must be accessed by a
local link on a FreeServers user web page.

Thank you for using Free Servers. >>

I remember the author has his own web site in english.  If
someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll post it tomorrow (I
think I have the URL in my home PC).

Domingo


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Sent: May 2, 2000 4:54:00 AM GMT
Subject: Re: GDBWIN


> Does anyone have the URL where the GDBWIN program is
located. I thought I'd
> bookmarked the location. Apparently not!
Ed, try this:

http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/

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I missed the link for this (GDBWIN) ... can someone please re-post it, since it
hasn't made it to the archives yet?  Thanks.

And Ed ... does GDBWIN perform any database corrections or analysis?  DBCHECK is
pretty good, but doesn't deal with fixing problems ... and GARLIC is sometimes a
case of the cure being worse than the disease.  Would be interested to know if
GDBWIN can correct a bad database (and how well it does that).

- Longden





Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> on 05/01/2000 10:54:44 PM

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fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET and others...

Thanks for the URL to GDBWIN. Now bookmarked.

Another cool way to use GDBWIN is to run multiple copies of the program.
Cutting and pasting from one database's notes field to another is a
snap--a lot easier than trying to do the same thing in CPack or even on the
Palmtop (assuming default clipboard size.)

Using a standard .NDB file I can copy whole records from one NoteTaker file
and paste it in another NDB file.  I don't think the same would be true for
copying and pasting records from one custom database to another in which the
record structures are different. (That would be asking for trouble.)

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I prefer Chessmaster 2000 vs. 1.0, but I'd be interested in finding
something better (I'm trying to get ahold of Fritz 2.0 from
Chessbase).  The black and white colors are reversed on most of the
chess programs that I've tried on my palmtop.

Does anybody know if there is a utility to invert black/white CGA
graphics for the palmtop?  Thanks.

--Ted

On  Sun, 30 Apr 2000, 11:06:43, "Ernst, Yehuda" wrote:
Hello!

Can some recommend a good free chess program for my 200lx?

Thanks Yehuda.


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Press "On" and "/" to invert the display colors.

Or use a utility like LXSTAT from the SUPER site, if you want to do it in a
batch file.

Or run the program from a menu manager like HDM (also from SUPER) which has
settings for the apps that include display inversion.

- Longden





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Subject:  Re: chess




I prefer Chessmaster 2000 vs. 1.0, but I'd be interested in finding
something better (I'm trying to get ahold of Fritz 2.0 from
Chessbase).  The black and white colors are reversed on most of the
chess programs that I've tried on my palmtop.

Does anybody know if there is a utility to invert black/white CGA
graphics for the palmtop?  Thanks.

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Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM asked if GDBWIN "fixes" broken databases.

I don't know. It may, but without the full DOCs in English, I can't tell for
sure.

.ed.

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dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote

>>I tried to download it ÝGDBWIN¨ at work for use in my work pc, and I get
the following message:
<< Forbidden
<snip>

I went to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html and clicked on the
GDBWIN link to go to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/index.html
and searched for "173K Lh " clicked on the download link and snagged the
file.

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I asked this a long time ago, but maybe there are some fresh leads.

I'd like a simple analog clock display on my 200LX ... similar to the one shown
in the Appt app, but I'd like it to be full screen.  I also have the one from
SUPER, from Wild West Software, but I was wondering if there was another that
didn't have the busy screen or startup logos.

Anyone know of such a program (it obviously has to run CGA ... there's a
freeware(?) program called anclock2.zip, but it requires EGA).  Even better if
someone has source code so I modify it to draw a line on the face of the clock
that bisects the angle between 12 and the hour hand (indicating South and
North).

Reason is that it gets so hot and sunny in Southern California, and I'd like to
use the analog clock to 1) determine a compass direction and then 2) park my car
in a location where I expect the shade to fall when I leave (usually several
hours later).

I have a simple drawing on Notepad:

                                N
                        NW >>>>>|>>>>> NE  Shadow Motion
                          \.....|...../
                   Morning \....|..../ Evening
                            \...|.../
                             \..|../
                              \.|./
                               \|/
                    W <---------+---------> E
                               /|\
                              / | \
                             /  |  \
                   Sunset   /   |   \  Sunrise
                           /    |    \
                         SW <<<<|<<<< SE   Sun Motion

And if I orient this drawing correctly (ie point "N" to the North), I can get a
quick idea of where the shadow will be moving.   As simple as this sounds, it
sometimes gets confusing as you're turning around the parking areas.    If I had
source code, I could actually put the above drawing directly on the face of the
clock ... a great little programming project for someone with time on their
hands (if you'll excuse the pun).

Thanks.

- Longden

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Hal,

All of you people at Thaddeus are really great. I wish every
software/hardware vendor I delt with were more like you.

> The question is, will you ship me a connectivity cable for the
> $20.00 dollars mentioned? If so, you have my master card number
> on file. Just send me an email confirmation and send the cable
> to the address listed in your files.>>
>
> OK.  Consider it confirmed.
>

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On Tue, 2 May 2000 08:45:17 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> Reason is that it gets so hot and sunny in Southern California, and I'd like to
> use the analog clock to 1) determine a compass direction and then 2) park my car
> in a location where I expect the shade to fall when I leave (usually several
> hours later).

And I thought mobile communications via an orbiting space station with the
LX was a unique use for the LX <g>.

Jeff

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Longden,

Thank you!  Wow, what a difference that makes!!

Cheers,
   Ted

On  2 May 00 8:37, Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
From: Longden_Loo@candle.com <Longden_Loo@candle.com>

>
>
>
> Press "On" and "/" to invert the display colors.
>
> Or use a utility like LXSTAT from the SUPER site, if you want to do
> it in a batch file.
>
> Or run the program from a menu manager like HDM (also from SUPER)
> which has settings for the apps that include display inversion.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> Ted Peterson <ted@NICAR.ORG> on 05/02/2000 03:05:22 AM
>
> Please respond to ted@nicar.org
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Re: chess
>
>
>
>
> I prefer Chessmaster 2000 vs. 1.0, but I'd be interested in finding
> something better (I'm trying to get ahold of Fritz 2.0 from
> Chessbase).  The black and white colors are reversed on most of the
> chess programs that I've tried on my palmtop.
>
> Does anybody know if there is a utility to invert black/white CGA
> graphics for the palmtop?  Thanks.
>
>
>

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Thanks for the URL.  I couldn't figure out how to download gdbwin because
the site is in Japanese.  Would you please send the URL of the download?

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> > Does anyone have the URL where the GDBWIN program is located. I thought
I'd
> > bookmarked the location. Apparently not!
> Ed, try this:
>
> http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/
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I have the following items:

1 perfect 2mb HP LX200 with box, books, etc. Had the 3 year express warranty
from HP - runs out later this year.
2 1mb HP LX200's - perfect screens, one with rapid battery drain (a few
days) and one with turn on problems (spontaneously resets). Both have great
cases and screens and would be terrific parts donors - may even be a simple
fix for full operation... think I may have some manuals for these too (not
sure)
1999 Palm CD (the Thaddeus collection, including the Gutenberg CD)
HP Connectivity pack with cables etc
megahertz 14.4 modem
I may have other items as well - the PC in Your Pocket book, etc - haven't
checked this all out in a while.

What's this worth? I'm not inclined towards ebay, though I might do that if
there's no reasonable interest here.

I switched to Palm Pilot a while ago - yes, I miss many of the LX features,
but this is what works at my place of business, so the LX gear has been
collecting dust for 1.5 years. Time to sell it to someone who can use it!

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English PG DN

Teilnehmerliste: Stand 02.05.00 21:00 Uhr

Am Samstag, den 6. Mai 2000, 15.00 Uhr findet wieder unser
traditionelles Internationales hp handheld Meeting statt.

Teilnehmer zum Zeitpunkt als die Email versendet wurde:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter
 Max Steger
 Engelbert Hartl
 Thomas Krug
 Werner Furlan
 Tony Hutchins
 Stefan Peichl
 Peter Heinold

 Organisation: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Ort:          M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Termin:       06.05.2000 15.00 Uhr bis open end

Das Seehaus liegt im Englischen Garten, am Klein Hesseloer See.

Adresse: Klein Hesselohe 3, 80802 M=FCnchen, Tel. +49-89-381 61 30.

Auf dem Isarring in Richtung Osten, zwischen John F. Kennedy
Br=FCcke und Effner Platz, dem Schild folgen > Seehaus. Parkplatz
ist vor der T=FCr.

Einen Auszug aus dem Falkplan, (GIF Datei, Schwarz/Wei=DF oder Farbe),
versende ich gerne auf Wunsch.

Wir freuen uns auf Euer Kommen!

Herzlicher Gru=DF

Helmuth und Caroline
______________________________________

English (short version):

List of participants, date 05/02/00, 09.00 pm

Saturday Mai 6th 2000, 3.00 pm our traditional international hp handheld
meeting will take place.

Participants when email was sent:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter
 Max Steger
 Engelbert Hartl
 Thomas Krug
 Werner Furlan
 Tony Hutchins
 Stefan Peichl
 Peter Heinold

 Organization: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Place:        M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Date:         05/06/00 3.00 pm open end

More details on request.

Looking forward to meet you there.

Regards

Helmuth and Caroline

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Is there any way on the HP200LX of invoking Lotus 1-2-3 from the command
line. Specifically, I need to call it from another program that expects DOS
command line access.

Thanks

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You can use the OPEN program on the SUPER site, but there are some IFs and BUTs.

OPEN allows a DOS command line to specify a known file-type (of which wk1 is
one), after which OPEN invokes the built-in application that goes along with the
file type.

OPEN only works from within SysMgr  ... which means you can't use it outside of
the "200" command (and that includes MaxDOS).

Also, it requires a filename so you can't just invoke the 123 app without
providing at least a dummy wk1 file, and if the filename is long enough (as in
most cases), you also need to expand the keyboard buffer because OPEN stuffs the
buffer to make the LX think someone is pressing keys .... and the default buffer
is usually too small.

KEYSTUFF (also on SUPER) includes a buffer expander called kbuf128.sys that'll
work .... but any buffer expander will do (including the one that comes with
Mack's double speed driver).

- Longden





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Subject:  Invoking 1-2-3 from the command line




Is there any way on the HP200LX of invoking Lotus 1-2-3 from the command
line. Specifically, I need to call it from another program that expects DOS
command line access.

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 12:23:42 -0700
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              "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
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From:         "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Analog clock/compass program?
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Hi Longden,

Take a look at the World Traveller program under my name (Alfred Lee)
on SUPER.  When a city is selected under the list mode, there is a
'Sun' key.  When selected, the position of the sun is computed for the
present time.  You can change to any other time too.  The interface is
quite unfriendly.  However, I haven't have any complain so I have no plan
to fix it.  It might work for you.

Regards,
Alfred Lee

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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Analog clock/compass program?

I asked this a long time ago, but maybe there are some fresh leads.

I'd like a simple analog clock display on my 200LX ... similar to the one shown
in the Appt app, but I'd like it to be full screen.  I also have the one from
SUPER, from Wild West Software, but I was wondering if there was another that
didn't have the busy screen or startup logos.

Anyone know of such a program (it obviously has to run CGA ... there's a
freeware(?) program called anclock2.zip, but it requires EGA).  Even better if
someone has source code so I modify it to draw a line on the face of the clock
that bisects the angle between 12 and the hour hand (indicating South and
North).

Reason is that it gets so hot and sunny in Southern California, and I'd like to
use the analog clock to 1) determine a compass direction and then 2) park my car
in a location where I expect the shade to fall when I leave (usually several
hours later).

I have a simple drawing on Notepad:

                                N
                        NW >>>>>|>>>>> NE  Shadow Motion
                          \.....|...../
                   Morning \....|..../ Evening
                            \...|.../
                             \..|../
                              \.|./
                               \|/
                    W <---------+---------> E
                               /|\
                              / | \
                             /  |  \
                   Sunset   /   |   \  Sunrise
                           /    |    \
                         SW <<<<|<<<< SE   Sun Motion

And if I orient this drawing correctly (ie point "N" to the North), I can get a
quick idea of where the shadow will be moving.   As simple as this sounds, it
sometimes gets confusing as you're turning around the parking areas.    If I had
source code, I could actually put the above drawing directly on the face of the
clock ... a great little programming project for someone with time on their
hands (if you'll excuse the pun).

Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 13:15:21 -0700
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Thanks Alfred.

I'll admit that World Traveler (which I already use) can sort of give me the
direction... I'd have to find that from sun's azimuth for the current time, but
I'd like to do a bit less work while I'm trying to park my car <g>.

- Longden





pc@mds.com on 05/02/2000 12:23:42 PM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  RE: Analog clock/compass program?




Hi Longden,

Take a look at the World Traveller program under my name (Alfred Lee)
on SUPER.  When a city is selected under the list mode, there is a
'Sun' key.  When selected, the position of the sun is computed for the
present time.  You can change to any other time too.  The interface is
quite unfriendly.  However, I haven't have any complain so I have no plan
to fix it.  It might work for you.

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Why do you send your HPLX-L posts encoded?  They show up in WWW/LX as
attachments which I have to detach before reading.
In general this too much trouble to do...

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 15:38:06 -0600
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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A couple people have mentioned that they use t.exe to edit/view files. I've
been playing around with it and like but have one problem.

The Status line, the line next to the bottom, is almost unreadable. That
line shows what the margin is set to, if you are in Insert/Replace mode,
and the like.

I've customized the setting but can't seem to find one that makes it
readable. Currently it's set to "black on white" but the type appears as a
very light gray. Any pointers?

Thanks a bunch,

Don Puscher

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Sorry If I should know this, but I've been off this list for about a year. I
still can't give up my 200LX though.  Is there anything available to synch
my 200LX appt. book to/from my Outlook 2000 Calendar?  If it will make it
any easier, how about to/from my eCalnow.com calendar that I synch my OL2000
calendar to?  I've tried what I can find on the Super site, but they don't
seem to work with OL 2000.  Anything?


Next question: I had been reading that a back light would be available for
the 200LX by the end of March.  When that time came, I started looking and
now can't find anything about it.  What's up?
Thanks in advance....

Jim

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 17:37:49 CDT
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Subject:      GPS

I've started looking into GPS as Garmin's eTrek is a size and price I'm
interested in.

Anyone have any good pointers to websites providing information on
linking GPS to moving map packages?  Laptop and palmtop use is planned.

Larry Zimmerman

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http://www.thegpsstore.com/site/

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: GPS


> I've started looking into GPS as Garmin's eTrek is a size and price I'm
> interested in.
>
> Anyone have any good pointers to websites providing information on
> linking GPS to moving map packages?  Laptop and palmtop use is planned.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 19:18:18 +0500
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Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Availability
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   >We expect a one to two year supply of used units that by early
   >August, maybe even a little sooner. We will sell them in all memory
   >configurations from 2 meg to 96 meg.  The pricing for upgraded
   >units will be what is listed on our web site at www.palmtoppaper.
   >com (plain 2 meg units will probably sell for $295)  They are
   >EuroEnglish which means they function identically as US units, but
   >they have extra symbols on the keyboard that remind how to generate
   >pound signs, umlauts, etc.

I was contemplating on having to switch to another palmtop.  My 95LX doesn't
adequately serve as a backup to the 200LX.  The news that you're going to
have a supply of used units for a good while yet is quite reassuring.  Thank
you for this update.


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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 19:18:24 +0500
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Subject:      Re: Chess
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On 2000-05-01 Louis said:
   >I have a chess game called 'Now Chess' Running on my HP. I forgot
   >where I down loaded it from, but I had it on my HP for 5+ years and
   >it is a great version of the game. The game is shareware If the
   >Super Site doesn't have it I can send you a copy of it.

If that version were uploaded to the Super Site, I'd greatly enjoy it as
well.  Chess is the about the only game I play on the palmtop, except for
Curtis Cameron's Snake.  <g>


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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 19:18:30 +0500
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On 2000-04-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
   >wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
   >the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
   >interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
   >bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
   >before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.

I ordered one of the 20 megabyte SANDISK type cards from Scott.  It arrived
well-wrapped and protected in the mail and has worked like a champ since.  I
was very happy with his response time and service.  Although the wording of
the ad can be annoying, Scott's service and products are first-rate.


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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 19:18:36 +0500
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On 2000-04-28 Ulrich said:
   >I'd think you're right. I've never used PE much (although its
   >ability to dynamically read configuration files was quite nice)
   >because I didn't like its speed. On the HP 200 LX I'm either using
   >T.EXE (same as you) or the E3 editor which supports sorting, spell
   >checking (I use German, US English, and Dutch dictionaries) and
   >much more.

I'd be interested in reading more about the E3 editor you mention here.  I
like PE, but am interested in a smaller editor to use on the 200LX.  Is it
on Super, by chance?


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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 19:18:49 +0500
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From:         David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Time table program
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On 2000-04-20 David said:
   >Hi,
   >Can someone recommend a program for timetabling a week (for classes
   >or whatever)?
   >I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot of
   >hassle doing it that way.

Have you tried Flexpad?  It's available on Super, and lets you view all your
appointments easily in a weekly or monthly format?  You can enter all your
appointments in a list format, and Flexpad has multiple views which allow
you to use it in different ways.  It actually does far more than that...here
is a description on Super:

Flexpad is a "flexible" text editor with a toolbox of appointment, todo and
other labels to facilitate easy viewing of your PIM and other data.
Shareware.
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MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-04-21 Domingo said:
   >Recurring appointments increase the size of the appointment
   >file tremendously, and are difficult to put exceptions to (I
   >don't want to see recurring appointments on a holiday, for
   >example, and that can only be fixed manually).  The
   >appointment program is the electronic equivalent of a
   >daytimer or similar paper scheduler.  What is needed (and I
   >assume the original poster as well) is the electronic
   >equivalent of a weekly wall schedule of activities (such as
   >classes), which changes infrequently, but must be refered to
   >often (sorry to the original poster if I missed his intent).

Flexpad is a flexible text editor with different views that allow you to see
your data in different ways.  One of the views is exactly what you
describe..."a weekly wall schedule of activities."  It allows for easy entry
of text and multiple ways for entering data.  It can be used as an
appointment/scheduler, and far more than that.  It can be downloaded from
Super as well.


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dmb10@swbell.net

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A favorite GPS site for many is Jack & Joe's at http://joe.mehaffey.com
They have pointers to just about everything.

For a Laptop I _very much_ prefer Street Atlas which has excellent maps, nice
tracking capability, ... Although, to be honest after travelling with it
for a couple of weeks I decided it wasn't worth the trouble. Since I have
a GPS III+ with good maps built in, that is a much more comfortable way to
travel. I download all of my tracks to my desktop and often plot them on
the street maps using Street Atlas all the time.

I never bother to connect my GPS to my 200Lx, so I can't comment on any
particularly effective software for that funciton.

Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> I've started looking into GPS as Garmin's eTrek is a size and price I'm
> interested in.
>
> Anyone have any good pointers to websites providing information on
> linking GPS to moving map packages?  Laptop and palmtop use is planned.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>

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Can someone please tell me where to find the key combination Ctrl+CuDn on
the HP200LX keyboard?
Thanks.


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On 30 Apr 2000 17:16:02 -0700, David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

>    >I have a chess game called 'Now Chess' Running on my HP. I forgot
>    >where I down loaded it from, but I had it on my HP for 5+ years and
>    >it is a great version of the game. The game is shareware If the
>    >Super Site doesn't have it I can send you a copy of it.
>
> If that version were uploaded to the Super Site, I'd greatly enjoy it as
> well.  Chess is the about the only game I play on the palmtop, except for
> Curtis Cameron's Snake.  <g>

Once again, I would be happy to put a copy up on my site as
well. Incidentally, does anyone know the latest with regards
to SUPER? It looked at one stage as though regular service
had been resumed, but there have been no new updates of
late. Is this because there is no new stuff to add, or some
other factor?

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Probably something I should know, but where does one obtain the LZH
file decompressor?

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I have run Sargon III on the LX. I can beat it if I cheat, but my chess
skills are lacking these days.

Would be curious if anyone knows if it was ever relegated to abandon
ware. I notice that my manual gives a 1983 copyright date. Seems like I
remember copyrights good for 17 years, but then what happens if not
renewed?

The bottom line, it it legit to pass it around?

I recall also having a chess game with file size of 6K - 7K but can't
seem to find it. I recall it not being very good.

Bob
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An option if file space is not a premium, load the disk version onto
your machine.

Bob

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Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now that
SA has been terminated?

I thought I'd compare my home position now, with what I had done before
using the blob method. It was pretty close. And the great part is now the
blob is covered by the current position dot on my GPS, even on the
highest zoom. :)

Mike

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Tue,  2 May 2000 22:42:51 -0400 (EDT)

01h48m30s ago ...
On Wed,  3 May 2000, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Probably something I should know, but where does one obtain the LZH
> file decompressor?

I thought SUPER had it.  If not try any Simtel site.  I usually go to:
        http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net
The file is called LHA255.EXE as I recall.  There may be a later
version.  I read somewhere about a version 2.70  It's a self-extracting
file.  If you only need extraction, not compression, there's a faster
program called LHE (forgot the version) on the vector site in Japan.

HTH

Peniel
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Has anyone ever used the HP calculator printer (the IR enabled) HP82240B
printer with an HP200LX?

Thanks

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<<<<<<Apparently it's pronounced "OS 10" but spelled "OS X", where
"X" is the Roman numeral ten.

The new GUI is named (codenamed?) Aqua. See here for details:>>>>>>

I've just been looking at that site and that looks like it's
probably the same thing they were talking about on the news.  It
fits their description pretty well.

I'm amazed at a few of the new features.  I don't know much about
Macs and I didn't know it didn't already have protected memory or
virtual memory.  I did know it used non-premptive multitasking but
that's always seemed reasonable to me, if not preferable, on a
single user system.

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Yes. And the results are quite startling.

Of course there's lots of news and stories, as usual, on news:sci.geo-satellite-nav

For me the most directly noticable thing is that my `velocity' is now
_always_ zero when the car is stopped. And the tracks back from the coffee
shop fall exactly _on_ the tracks going over...

Mike Kopplin wrote:
>
> Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now that
> SA has been terminated?
>
> I thought I'd compare my home position now, with what I had done before
> using the blob method. It was pretty close. And the great part is now the
> blob is covered by the current position dot on my GPS, even on the
> highest zoom. :)
>
> Mike
>

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<<<<Anyone know of such a program (it obviously has to run CGA ...
there's a
freeware(?) program called anclock2.zip, but it requires EGA).  Even
better if
someone has source code so I modify it to draw a line on the face of
the clock>>>>

Analog clocks used to be a favorite thing for people to write when
learning the PC or learning to program.  I'm sure I've seen a few
hundred of them available for download over the years.  I'm sure
Compuserve and AOL's downloads both have a lot of them, although you
might have better luck with CGA on Compuserve since AOL was pretty
small in the CGA days and isn't that great about keeping old
software.

Another place to look is at www.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos.  Also
ftp://x2ftp.oulu.fi.  Also you might try Jumbo.com.

I know you can find them if you look and a lot will come with
source.

Also an EGA or VGA one with source won't be hard to modify for CGA.
Especially if it uses Mode 13, which most probably will.

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<<<<Is there any way on the HP200LX of invoking Lotus 1-2-3 from the
command
line. Specifically, I need to call it from another program that
expects DOS
command line access.>>>>

Old dos versions of 123 aren't hard to find now.  So if you don't
find a way to call the built in one, you can use one installed on
your 200lx in dos.  I think I remember that they've been made
available to download now by Lotus.

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Don Puscher wrote:
> A couple people have mentioned that they use t.exe to edit/view files. I've
> been playing around with it and like but have one problem.
>
> The Status line, the line next to the bottom, is almost unreadable. That
> line shows what the margin is set to, if you are in Insert/Replace mode,
> and the like.
>
> I've customized the setting but can't seem to find one that makes it
> readable. Currently it's set to "black on white" but the type appears as a
> very light gray. Any pointers?

Don,
Here's the screen definition portion from the configuration file I use
on T.EXE.

cheers... Russ


// Colour display colours ...

    color data lines    = white on black
    color mark lines    = black on white
    color show lines    = white on black
    color shadow cursor = black on white
    color command line  = black on white
    color status line   = white on black
    color help line     = white on black
    color message line  = white on black

// Monochrome display colours ...

 mono data lines    = normal
 mono mark lines    = reverse
 mono show lines    = normal
 mono shadow cursor = bright underline
 mono command line  = reverse
 mono status line   = normal
 mono help line     = normal
 mono message line  = bright normal

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Date:         Tue, 2 May 2000 20:22:59 -0700
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Hello. I've got a hp95lx without instructions, and a Megahertz 14400 fax
modem with XJACK, model xj1144.  How do configure it so the palmtop sees the
modem and can dial from terminal?  Thanks.
                                Marshall Taylor

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I've not heard of 123 being made available by Lotus.  Do you have an
announcment or a link to one?  This would be significant news as I'm sure
there's lots of LX users dying for a full copy of 123 v2.4.

- Longden

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> Old dos versions of 123 aren't hard to find now.  So if you don't
> find a way to call the built in one, you can use one installed on
> your 200lx in dos.  I think I remember that they've been made
> available to download now by Lotus.

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> Analog clocks used to be a favorite thing for people to write when
> learning the PC or learning to program.  I'm sure I've seen a few
> hundred of them available for download over the years.

I only need one good one <g>.

> Compuserve and AOL's downloads both have a lot of them, although you
> might have better luck with CGA on Compuserve since AOL was pretty
> small in the CGA days and isn't that great about keeping old
> software.

I don't have either Compuserve nor AOL access.

> Another place to look is at www.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos.  Also

Thanks, I've done that ... only the EGA clock ... no source.

> ftp://x2ftp.oulu.fi.  Also you might try Jumbo.com.

Yeah, I'll search some more.  Just thought that, being as common as you say,
there'd be lots of analog clock versions amongst the LX users (not).

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> Is there any way on the HP200LX of invoking Lotus 1-2-3 from the command
> line. Specifically, I need to call it from another program that expects DOS

Longden suggests keystuff and that could be used by itself to launch 123
using the right combination of keystrokes - it would switch to 123.  It
may or may not work as you wish invoking from a "real" dos application.

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Comments: To: secret-agent@TURBONET.COM
In-Reply-To:  "secret-agent@TURBONET.COM"'s message of Tue, 2 May 2000 20:22:59
              -0700

I can't speak to your HP95LX, but exactly that modem works just fine
for me using nothing but the built-in software on my HP200LX.
73, doug

   Date:    Tue, 2 May 2000 20:22:59 -0700
   From:    Marshall Taylor <secret-agent@TURBONET.COM>

   Hello. I've got a hp95lx without instructions, and a Megahertz 14400 fax
   modem with XJACK, model xj1144.  How do configure it so the palmtop sees the
   modem and can dial from terminal?  Thanks.
                                   Marshall Taylor

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> Hello. I've got a hp95lx without instructions, and a Megahertz 14400 fax
> modem with XJACK, model xj1144.  How do configure it so the palmtop sees the
> modem and can dial from terminal?  Thanks.

Only one special pcmcia modem was designed to work with the HP95.  Your
modem will not work unfortunately.

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Hello,

my 200LX has MS-DOS Version 5.00 installed, but does not
contain the FIND.EXE. When I evaluated a separate FIND.EXE
(which is also labelled Version 5.00 when I simply 'view'
it from Filer), I found that it returns only an errorlevel
of 0, no matter whether a string is found or not.

The FIND.EXE in question has a size of 6.770 bytes.

Can somebody confirm my observations, just to ensure that
I did not make a mistake in my batch file where I intend
to use it?

If my observation is correct, is any solution known
(preferably of small size)?

I appreciate any hints.

Thank you
Norbert

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   >my 200LX has MS-DOS Version 5.00 installed, but does not
   >contain the FIND.EXE. When I evaluated a separate FIND.EXE
   >(which is also labelled Version 5.00 when I simply 'view'
   >it from Filer), I found that it returns only an errorlevel
   >of 0, no matter whether a string is found or not.
   >The FIND.EXE in question has a size of 6.770 bytes.
   >Can somebody confirm my observations, just to ensure that
   >I did not make a mistake in my batch file where I intend
   >to use it?
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Consider it confirmed. I have FIND from DOS 5 and it's the same size and
also always returns errorlevel 0. Then again, I'm not a bit batch file
programmer so I might have missed a trick.

   >If my observation is correct, is any solution known
   >(preferably of small size)?

Both egrep and xgrep (from simtel, I believe) seem to work in terms of
setting an errorlevel depending on the result.  Of the two, xgrep is
smaller, only 3.3k.  Email me if you can't find a copy... I believe I got
them from the simtel site (maybe SUPER?).

- Longden

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Hi,

I have recently purchased a 2nd hand d-speed, 8Mb 200LX from Thaddeus. (I'm
keeping my old 2Mb LX as a backup - seems there is still no viable
alternative to this handy little unit!)

The drain on my batteries have increased substantially compared with my old
unit which only had a d-speed upgrade. A set of batteries (rechargeable
alkaline) hardly lasts a day. (I have been using Turbo C++ which involves a
fair amount of reading & writing to the flash card.) I realise that the
added memory shortens battery life but this is phenominal.

Any suggestions as to what the problem might be would be greatly
appreciated.

Also is there any way of measuring the power consumption of a HP200LX?

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

Lower Hutt, New Zealand

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On Tue, 2 May 2000 20:46:50 -0400, Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>=
 wrote:

> Can someone please tell me where to find the key combination Ctrl+CuDn =
on
> the HP200LX keyboard?

Visit the Super Site and download Numlock:

Numlock is a TSR that allows you to use the NumPad of your HP 100/200LX
as a separate cursor key block. Allows single keystrokes for PgUp,
PgDn, Home and End. Works under SysMgr. Copyrighted freeware.


HTH

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On Wed, 3 May 2000 12:54:22 +1200, Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> =
wrote:

> Probably something I should know, but where does one obtain the LZH
> file decompressor?

Its available on the Super Site.

Do a search for both:
lhe102.zip
lha255.zip


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Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE asked about errorlevel codes in FIND

My DOSHELP.GDB file says...
The following list shows each exit code and a brief description of its
meaning:
0  The search was completed successfully and at least one match was found.
1  The search was completed successfully, but no matches  were found.
2  The search was not completed successfully. In this case, an error
occurred during the search, and FIND cannot report whether any matches  were
found.

What does the line in your batch file look like?
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Somebody ran an overnight test at work using a 12 XL and before
midnight the one sigma position error was ~20m after midnight the error
was ~3.5m in one axis and ~5m on the other.

Prior to this I had knowledge of the performance of a space-qualifed
gps/ins unit that will be used to update the navigation systems on the
space shuttle. The improved numbers I quoted above are consistent with
such a full precision system when it sits stationary on the ground.

GaryS

> Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now that
> SA has been terminated?
>
> I thought I'd compare my home position now, with what I had done before
> using the blob method. It was pretty close. And the great part is now the
> blob is covered by the current position dot on my GPS, even on the
> highest zoom. :)
>
> Mike

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Hi Stefan
Do you use a PC card ? Amongst other LX motherboard problems, I think
there is an inbuilt inverter Circuit that converts the 3v battery into
5v and/or 12v and for some reason it becomes less efficient and draws
more current to the point where it dies - possibly kicked off by using
hi drain PC cards, old 12v cards or a certain ACE doublespeed card - any
other opinions on this?? I have had 2 standard 200lx go through this
less & less time out of new batteries then die while using a combination
of the above cards.

My 200 ds/32m runs 2-4 days of heavy use (with no card) on 2year old
Shier NiMh batteries where my standard backup 200 will go over a week -
or several months in storage.

Try switching to NiMh batteries for longer life - there are "POWERhaus"
brand NiMh 1300mAh batteries available in Wellington that are OK (but
not the best)

To measure battery current drain insert your meter wires into the
battery compartment (cover off) Stick some tinfoil together with
doublesided tape and with your current meter wires connected to each
side - insert this between one battery & its spring. Measure with &
without the card etc

Regards
John Shaw
Hurricane supporter!

Stefan Lombaard wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have recently purchased a 2nd hand d-speed, 8Mb 200LX from Thaddeus. (I'm
> keeping my old 2Mb LX as a backup - seems there is still no viable
> alternative to this handy little unit!)
>
> The drain on my batteries have increased substantially compared with my old
> unit which only had a d-speed upgrade. A set of batteries (rechargeable
> alkaline) hardly lasts a day. (I have been using Turbo C++ which involves a
> fair amount of reading & writing to the flash card.) I realise that the
> added memory shortens battery life but this is phenominal.
>
> Any suggestions as to what the problem might be would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Also is there any way of measuring the power consumption of a HP200LX?
>
> Regards,
> Stefan Lombaard
>
> Lower Hutt, New Zealand
>
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Hi Marshall
It was a while ago, but my 95lx could only use a slow 2400 modem on a
Type 1 PC card with a dongle & it may have been a custom unit specific
to the 95lx - possibly "New Media" brand.

I still have it somewhere hidden away with the Dos 5 disks, so if you
dont get the exact answer on the list I will have a search for it.

The XJ14 works well with a 100 or 200lx

Cheers
John

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> Hello. I've got a hp95lx without instructions, and a Megahertz 14400 fax
> modem with XJACK, model xj1144.  How do configure it so the palmtop sees > the modem and can dial from terminal?  Thanks.      Marshall Taylor

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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> I've not heard of 123 being made available by Lotus.  Do you have an
> announcment or a link to one?  This would be significant news as I'm sure
> there's lots of LX users dying for a full copy of 123 v2.4.

Try your regional IBM/Lotus rep. I received an original set of 1-2-3
disks for free after I prooved ownership of a HP200LX and promised
inwriting not to use 1-2-3 both on palmi and on a desktop
at_the_same_time :) The offer was made in the LOTUSB forum of
Compuserve some time ago.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Ah, but what version of DOS does your DOSHELP.GDB refer to?

My MSDOS 5.0 manual mentions nothing about errorlevel trapping for the FIND
command.

OTOH, my DOS6.22 HELP command does show the errorlevel references for FIND.

Interestingly, the FIND for both DOS 5.0 and DOS 6.22 are exactly the same size
(6,770 bytes), tho a comparison (using fc /b) shows that they're different
beasts.

I tried the following batch file on a Win95 system:

@echo off
echo xxx | find "xxx"
if errorlevel 2 echo two
if errorlevel 1 echo one
if errorlevel 0 echo zero
echo ooo | find "xxx"
if errorlevel 2 echo two
if errorlevel 1 echo one
if errorlevel 0 echo zero

Using DOS5/FIND, both tests will result in zero.  Using DOS622/FIND, the 2nd
test will correctly show "one" and then "zero".

So it appears DOS 6.22 added the additional logic without any added size
(probably a first for MS).  Unfortunately, the DOS622/FIND will generate an
"Incorrect DOS version" on our LX.

But there's still "xgrep" on the simtel site:
http://www.simtel.net/simcgi-bin/dosfind.cgi?queryinput=xgrep

Freeware and it works on DOS 5.0.

- Longden






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Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE asked about errorlevel codes in FIND

My DOSHELP.GDB file says...
The following list shows each exit code and a brief description of its
meaning:
0  The search was completed successfully and at least one match was found.
1  The search was completed successfully, but no matches  were found.
2  The search was not completed successfully. In this case, an error
occurred during the search, and FIND cannot report whether any matches  were
found.

What does the line in your batch file look like?

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I don't have Compuserve access, but if the offer (or a copy of it) exists
somewhere that you (or maybe another member) can make a copy of for me/us, it'd
be helpful.

Otherwise it'd be just my luck to get a clueless regional rep.

Thanks.

- Longden





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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> I've not heard of 123 being made available by Lotus.  Do you have an
> announcment or a link to one?  This would be significant news as I'm sure
> there's lots of LX users dying for a full copy of 123 v2.4.

Try your regional IBM/Lotus rep. I received an original set of 1-2-3
disks for free after I prooved ownership of a HP200LX and promised
inwriting not to use 1-2-3 both on palmi and on a desktop
at_the_same_time :) The offer was made in the LOTUSB forum of
Compuserve some time ago.

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<<<<Also, it requires a filename so you can't just invoke the 123
app without
providing at least a dummy wk1 file, and if the filename is long
enough (as in
most cases), you also need to expand the keyboard buffer because
OPEN stuffs the
buffer to make the LX think someone is pressing keys .... and the
default buffer
is usually too small.>>>>

It's been a while so I might remember this wrong but my memory of
Lotus is that it won't take a file name on the command line.  At
least the dos version wouldn't.  I think the command line param was
assumed to be another setup file for Lotus.  I may be confused so
it's worth double checking.  But I think I'm right.

Barry

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It seems like there's been occasional mention of battery drain problems and that
the usual last ditch fix (before sending it in for repair), is to backup the
data and completely drain the power from the system.

Apparently, there are some persistent areas of memory that don't get initialized
during a reboot, and some corruption in those regions can have an effect on
power management.

Usual method of draining (after backing up the internal drive) is to pull the
AAs AND the backup lithium, and then 1) let the unit sit overnight or 2) press
and hold down the "On" key for a minute to drain the capacitors.

Then replace the batteries, restore the backups and cross your fingers.

- Longden





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Subject:  Battery drain




I have recently purchased a 2nd hand d-speed, 8Mb 200LX from Thaddeus. (I'm
keeping my old 2Mb LX as a backup - seems there is still no viable
alternative to this handy little unit!)

The drain on my batteries have increased substantially compared with my old
unit which only had a d-speed upgrade. A set of batteries (rechargeable
alkaline) hardly lasts a day. (I have been using Turbo C++ which involves a
fair amount of reading & writing to the flash card.) I realise that the
added memory shortens battery life but this is phenominal.

Any suggestions as to what the problem might be would be greatly
appreciated.

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>>Consider it confirmed. I have FIND from DOS 5 and it's the same size and
>>also always returns errorlevel 0. Then again, I'm not a bit batch file

I just checked the DOS5 book and it really doesn't say anything about find
returning an error level, my take on it would be to redirect the output from
find to a file and than check to see if the file is there instead of using
the error level, of course I am assuming here that find will not make a file
if there is nothing found

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Yeah Barry, you may be confused, but I think you are right <g>... I also recall
early versions of 123 not accepting a worksheet filename on the command line (a
stupid arrogance on Lotus' part .... everyone else was accepting that as a
standard which Lotus chose to ignore, being the market leader at the time).

However, the OPEN command works like a keyboard macro and acts like you pressed
all the relevant LX keys to call up 123 and then do a /FR on the worksheet.

As Fred pointed out, only the Keystuff program is really needed, tho I believe
the reason I went with OPEN and the kbuf128.sys component of Keystuff was
because OPEN was smaller and didn't load itself into memory, and was more useful
to me (I don't use PNS).

- Longden





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It's been a while so I might remember this wrong but my memory of
Lotus is that it won't take a file name on the command line.  At
least the dos version wouldn't.  I think the command line param was
assumed to be another setup file for Lotus.  I may be confused so
it's worth double checking.  But I think I'm right.

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Had the same idea, but no dice.

echo cat | find "dog" > test.tmp

will create a zero byte test.tmp file, so a test using "if exist test.tmp" won't
work.

- Longden





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>>Consider it confirmed. I have FIND from DOS 5 and it's the same size and
>>also always returns errorlevel 0. Then again, I'm not a bit batch file

I just checked the DOS5 book and it really doesn't say anything about find
returning an error level, my take on it would be to redirect the output from
find to a file and than check to see if the file is there instead of using
the error level, of course I am assuming here that find will not make a file
if there is nothing found

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<<The drain on my batteries have increased substantially compared with my
old
unit which only had a d-speed upgrade. A set of batteries (rechargeable
alkaline) hardly lasts a day.

Stefan Lombaard
Lower Hutt, New Zealand>>

The only thing I can suggest is to send it back to us on warranty. Sorry
that it has to travel such a long way. There should only be a 20-25%
reduction of battery life at worse.

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From: pablo_hrenenco@non.hp.com (Pablo Hrenenco)

Subscriber Comments: I want to know everything about HP 82240B and
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We are developping the Windows CE IRDA Drivers.
My ISV (Developer) is working very hard to have a successfull driver.
Thanks and luck.

Pablo Hrenenco


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> It's been a while so I might remember this wrong but my memory of
> Lotus is that it won't take a file name on the command line.  At
> least the dos version wouldn't.  I think the command line param was
> assumed to be another setup file for Lotus.  I may be confused so
> it's worth double checking.  But I think I'm right.

Hiya, Barry! (G)

Here's what I just captured, altho finding HELP without a search
function made it, well, old fashioned (G):

To retrieve a file when you start 1-2-3 from
the operating system prompt, include a -w and
the name of the file.  For example, enter
123 -wsales to start 1-2-3 and retrieve a file
named SALES.WK1 from the default directory.
(You can use a full path, for example,
123 -WC:\PARIS\SALES, to retrieve a file
from a directory other than the default
directory.)

I never was a big spreadsheet user - just a few needs but one day at the
"adopt this or we throw it out pile" at work was 123 V 2.4 and I gave it
a good home and keep moving from desktop to desktop.  Included all
documentation.

I use 123 on the HP200 to keep my exercise/outdoor info and some of my
dad's finances.

As for loading stuff from the command line, I use Buddy and point and
click to load 123 sheets.  But I do have a number of keystuff "macros"
in my filer.ini including a 123 loader - but again, this is a point and
click from Filer, not from within another dos application.

I also created a buddy assisted COMMA loader using lxbatch but never
cleaned it up or created an easy configuration method - I have to
"recompile" it each time I want to add another EXTension.

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Wed,  3 May 2000 11:09:51 -0500 (EST)

complete URL is:

http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh

Cheers...AJKind


1 day 29m15s ago ...
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote
>
> >>I tried to download it ÝGDBWIN¨ at work for use in my work pc, and I =
get
> the following message:
> << Forbidden
> <snip>
>
> I went to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html and clicked on the
> GDBWIN link to go to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/index.h=
tml
> and searched for "173K Lh " clicked on the download link and snagged =
the
> file.
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Subscriber Comments: Hi I'm a Pascal/Delphi programmer and a proud new
owner of a HP 700LX and I'd like to make contact with other LX users.
I want to get the IR to work between the LX and a PC, as well as serial
comms etc. and need info regarding memory upgrades...


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Tom Rundel, the author of Accis the palmtop Compuserve access program,
wrote a sysmgr exm called IR-Print for this purpose. Not sure where a
copy could be found these days but Tom is still on the Compuserve
palmtop forum. I think his email is 100023.2477@compuserve.com but
that may have been a HP sponsored account. I think Tom monitors this
group so perhaps he will pop up or someone else will correct me.

GaryS

> Has anyone ever used the HP calculator printer (the IR enabled) HP82240B
> printer with an HP200LX?
>
> Thanks

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My 200lx will use up a set of batteries more quickly
if I forget to turn off the serial port.  It makes a noticeable
difference - and I just use mine for a few minutes at a time
several times a day.    Just something to check and see if it
makes a difference.

Mike
> From:          Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
> Subject:       Battery drain
> Hi,
>
> I have recently purchased a 2nd hand d-speed, 8Mb 200LX from Thaddeus. (I'm
> keeping my old 2Mb LX as a backup - seems there is still no viable
> alternative to this handy little unit!)
>
> The drain on my batteries have increased substantially compared with my old
> unit which only had a d-speed upgrade. A set of batteries (rechargeable
> alkaline) hardly lasts a day. (I have been using Turbo C++ which involves a
> fair amount of reading & writing to the flash card.) I realise that the
> added memory shortens battery life but this is phenominal.
>
> Any suggestions as to what the problem might be would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Also is there any way of measuring the power consumption of a HP200LX?
>
> Regards,
> Stefan Lombaard
>
> Lower Hutt, New Zealand
>

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<<<<Would be curious if anyone knows if it was ever relegated to
abandon
ware. I notice that my manual gives a 1983 copyright date. Seems
like I
remember copyrights good for 17 years, but then what happens if not
renewed?>>>>

Patents expire in 17 years.  Copyrights expiration has been changed
and I can't remember if they changed it from 25 to 50 years or from
50 to 100 years.  So it's either 50 or 100 years.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Lotus from the command line

>
> Here's what I just captured, altho finding HELP without a search
> function made it, well, old fashioned (G):
>
> To retrieve a file when you start 1-2-3 from
> the operating system prompt, include a -w and
> the name of the file.  For example, enter
> 123 -wsales to start 1-2-3 and retrieve a file
> named SALES.WK1 from the default directory.
> (You can use a full path, for example,
> 123 -WC:\PARIS\SALES, to retrieve a file
> from a directory other than the default
> directory.)

Thanks.  I don't think I was ever aware of that.  And I used 123 a
lot at work.

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Looks like they closed access. Maybe they want money for this?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Albert J. Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨
>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:12 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ GDBWIN
>
>
>Wed,  3 May 2000 11:09:51 -0500 (EST)
>
>complete URL is:
>
>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh
>
>Cheers...AJKind
>
>
>1 day 29m15s ago ...
>On Tue, 2 May 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:
>
>> dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote
>>
>> >>I tried to download it ÝGDBWIN¨ at work for use in my work
>pc, and I get
>> the following message:
>> << Forbidden
>> <snip>
>>
>> I went to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html and
>clicked on the
>> GDBWIN link to go to
>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/index.html
>> and searched for "173K Lh " clicked on the download link and
>snagged the
>> file.
>>
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Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> claims, WRT GDBWIN, >>Looks like they closed
access. Maybe they want money for this?<<

Once, again, I followed the two or three step approach and downloaded the
gile without a hitch.
YMMV.

.ed.

>> I went to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html and
>clicked on the
>> GDBWIN 0.90 link to go to
>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/index.html
>> and searched for "173K Lh " clicked on the download link and snagged the
file.

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Can anyone answer this person's question.  I have no idea what a Star Tac
vxxxx is (nor do I want to know<g>) If you can answer, please do so off-list
to the addressee below: not to me.

----- Original Message -----
From: np69fl <mosquito@mail.telepac.pt>

>
> Help wanted!
> Maybe i am just to silly and ignorant, but i try since about 3 months to
> get
> information about a connector cable for my Motorola Star Tac V.3688 (
> same
> Plug as the 130) to connect to the PCMCIA Fax/Modem for a HP LX200 32mB
> Palmtop. In vain.
> All i want is to be able to send and receive E-Mails on the run.
> Equipment is Motorola Star Tac V.3688 and the HP Palmtop LX200 32mB. So
> i need the
> connector cable and the proper Software. If anybody can help, please to
> so.
> My E-Mail is: mosquito@mail.telepac.pt
>
>

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I concur with Ed's three-step.

I got the file that way (mostly curiosity), tho now I'm not sure I know what to
do with it <g>.

- Longden





Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> on 05/03/2000 10:44:28 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
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Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> claims, WRT GDBWIN, >>Looks like they closed
access. Maybe they want money for this?<<

Once, again, I followed the two or three step approach and downloaded the
gile without a hitch.
YMMV.

.ed.

>> I went to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html and
>clicked on the
>> GDBWIN 0.90 link to go to
>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/index.html
>> and searched for "173K Lh " clicked on the download link and snagged the
file.

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> From: np69fl <mosquito@mail.telepac.pt>
>
> >
> > Help wanted!
> > Maybe i am just to silly and ignorant, but i try since about 3 months to
> > get
> > information about a connector cable for my Motorola Star Tac V.3688 (
> > same
> > Plug as the 130) to connect to the PCMCIA Fax/Modem for a HP LX200 32mB
> > Palmtop. In vain.
> > All i want is to be able to send and receive E-Mails on the run.
> > Equipment is Motorola Star Tac V.3688 and the HP Palmtop LX200 32mB. So
> > i need the
> > connector cable and the proper Software. If anybody can help, please to
> > so.
> > My E-Mail is: mosquito@mail.telepac.pt
> >
> >

This issue is one which is very hard to resolve in general, and often has
quite disappointing answers in particular.

Most PCMCIA Fax/Modem cards for the Lx200 _are not_ cellular compatible. For
example, I once investigated a similar link for the Nokia 616x, and found that
there were _no_ modems that were compatible both with that series of phone
and with the 200. As far as I understand it, low power modems work best on the
200, and most cellular compatible modems are not low power.

In any event, you need much more than just a cable and proper software, you
need the combination of hardware, cable(s) (often more than one), software
and---perhaps most important of all---compatible service from a service
provider. Since your note comes from `.pt' I won't even hazard a guess about
what _might_ work for you.

But I will say that it _wouldn't_ surprise me if what you want to do is both
expensive and slow---if possible at all...

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That driver is on SUPER at
http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/irprint.zip

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 3, 2000 3:37:11 PM GMT
Subject: Fwd: Re: HP 82240B printer and the HP200LX


Tom Rundel, the author of Accis the palmtop Compuserve
access program,
wrote a sysmgr exm called IR-Print for this purpose. Not
sure where a
copy could be found these days but Tom is still on the
Compuserve
palmtop forum. I think his email is
100023.2477@compuserve.com but
that may have been a HP sponsored account. I think Tom
monitors this
group so perhaps he will pop up or someone else will correct
me.

GaryS

> Has anyone ever used the HP calculator printer (the IR
enabled) HP82240B
> printer with an HP200LX?
>
> Thanks

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On Tuesday, 02.05.2000 at 22:19 GMT, James Henry  wrote:
> Sorry If I should know this, but I've been off this list for about a
year. I
> still can't give up my 200LX though.  Is there anything available to
synch
> my 200LX appt. book to/from my Outlook 2000 Calendar?  If it will make it
> any easier, how about to/from my eCalnow.com calendar that I synch my
OL2000
> calendar to?  I've tried what I can find on the Super site, but they
don't
> seem to work with OL 2000.  Anything?
>
I use a little BAT file to invoke T.EXE which sets "MODE BW80" before
calling the program. That does it for me.

Ulrich Boche

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On Tuesday, 02.05.2000 at 14:18 GMT, David Ball  wrote:
> I'd be interested in reading more about the E3 editor you mention here.
I
> like PE, but am interested in a smaller editor to use on the 200LX.  Is
it
> on Super, by chance?
>
No, it is an IBM internally developed editor which has never been released
outside IBM (same as T.EXE).

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Albert,

> Wed,  3 May 2000 11:09:51 -0500 (EST)
>
> complete URL is:
>
> http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh

This is the answer I get here on a public access:

<html><head><title>PERMISSION DENIED</title></head>
<body bgcolor=3D#ffffff>
<h1>Forbidden</h1>


<br>You do not have permission to access this document.<p>

Binary files stored on FreeServers must be accessed by a local link on a =
FreeServers user web page.<br><br>
<p>
Thank you for using <a href=3Dhttp://www.freeservers.com/>Free Servers</a>=
.<p>

</body></html>


Kind regards

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Thank you for all responses on this topic.

Londgen, if egrep or xgrep do the job, that would simply be
the best choice. I have not yet got a copy to test. The
small size is impressive.

Ed, the lines in my test batch file are:

  FIND /i "search string" test.dat
  IF errorlevel 1 ECHO 1
  IF errorlevel 0 ECHO 0

and it never echos 1.

Just for info: FIND.EXE from PC-DOS 3.3 and 4.0 do not
run but claim a wrong DOS version.

I tested Larry' proposal but FIND creates a file no matter
whether a search string is found or not. If not found, the
file contains one line of

 ---------- x

where x is the file name given with FIND (can include drive
and path as well).

This lead me to a more tricky way to try, which might be of
interest for those who like batch programming. If you own
a utility that can replace a byte or string in a file by another
string, it will do the trick. (I have asked for such utility
in a different context and Ed proposed XLATE, which I could not
yet get. But one of you (thanks) gave me a copy of ALTER from
Rob Flor, which seems to be free. ALTER (8k) is a DOS | PIPE
batch utitity.)

Consider

  FIND /i /c "string" test.dat > temp.bat

which returns

  --------- TEST.DAT: 17

in find.bat. (Note that the file name is upper case now.)
Here 17 is the count of findings, which can be 0 as well.

If you can replace the string preceeding the count by a string

  SET temp=

you will end up with file temp.bat containing

  SET temp=17

When you execute it, you have got an environment variable
TEMP, which you can test with an IF in your batch file.

Interesting?

Regards
Norbert



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Hi friends,

Thanks a lot!
I forwarded all your messages regarding this topic to my brother.

Since his wife is currently lying in hospital because of problems with
her heart, he probalby doesn't have time to evaluate your answers at
the moment.

GTX
daniel

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>  > I'm sure they called this OS 10.  It may be a renaming of OS X or a
>>  reporter's mistake.  But they did say that there would be an
>>  entirely new GUI and that the underlying OS was modelled after unix.
>>
>Apparently it's pronounced "OS 10" but spelled "OS X", where "X" is the Roman
>numeral ten.

Well, to myself, I have been pronouncing it "oh ess ecks"

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Ulrich Boche wrote:
> On Tuesday, 02.05.2000 at 14:18 GMT, David Ball  wrote:
> > I'd be interested in reading more about the E3 editor you mention here.
> I
> > like PE, but am interested in a smaller editor to use on the 200LX.  Is
> it
> > on Super, by chance?
> >
> No, it is an IBM internally developed editor which has never been released
> outside IBM (same as T.EXE).
>
> Ulrich Boche

Like Ulrich I too work for IBM.   At times the Tiny editor has been on
publicly accessible sites although the doc makes it sound as if you
needed to be an OS/2 user.  I remember it being available on the old BBS
system run by IBM supporting early pcs, available for download by anyone.

Cheers... Russ        aka: rlbrooks@vnet.ibm.com

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>> Can someone please tell me where to find the key combination Ctrl+CuDn on
>> the HP200LX keyboard?
>
>Visit the Super Site and download Numlock:
>
>Numlock is a TSR that allows you to use the NumPad of your HP 100/200LX
>as a separate cursor key block. Allows single keystrokes for PgUp,
>PgDn, Home and End. Works under SysMgr. Copyrighted freeware.


   Sorry I didn't make myself clearer. I AM trying out Numlock. Or at least
I'd like to. The problem is I can't activate it. The .doc file says to
activate it the hotkey Ctrl+CuDn should be used. I don't know what's meant
by CuDn???
It isn't a typo as it's used more than once in the docs.



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>The problem is I can't activate it. The .doc
>file says to activate it the hotkey Ctrl+CuDn
>should be used. I don't know what's meant
>by CuDn??? It isn't a typo as it's used more
>than once in the docs.

Wild guess ... CuDn="Cursor Down" key?  On the LX, the down-arrow key labelled
"PG DN".


Well, whaddya got to lose?

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<<<I've not heard of 123 being made available by Lotus.  Do you have
an
announcment or a link to one?  This would be significant news as I'm
sure
there's lots of LX users dying for a full copy of 123 v2.4.>>>

I read an article a couple of weeks ago about companies releasing
their old software.  I thought that it said Lotus had released 123.
I just found it in my history and re-read it and it said Lotus
allowed VisiCalc, which it now owns, to be released.  Following that
was the author's wish that they would also release early versions of
123 and Symphony.  I seem to have misrembered what it said.

Sorry about the mistake.

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<<<I've not heard of 123 being made available by Lotus.  Do you have
an
announcment or a link to one?  This would be significant news as I'm
sure
there's lots of LX users dying for a full copy of 123 v2.4.>>>

I want to add to what I said before since I now realize I was wrong
about Lotus releasing 123.  I'd like to get some opinions about old
software.  A discussion about this would be interesting.  An
argument wouldn't.  Let's see what happens.

When someone has an old computer that can use an old program that is
no longer available commercially or any other legal way, that begins
to seem to me like an abuse of copyright laws.

I am totally in favor of laws that allow authors to profit from
their work.  But I'm beginning to think these laws shouldn't go
beyond that.  When the author is no longer attempting to profit from
an older program and seems to have no intention of doing so, that
doesn't change the users of older computer's need for such programs.

It seems there are 2 author's rights involved here.  The right to
profit and the right to own, control, deny, etc.  I think laws that
protect the first right are important and should exist and be
followed.

But I'm beginning to think that when there is no longer any profit
involved, the law should stay out of it.  Old programs, like old
books, become part of us;  part of who we are and what we are.
They're part of the definition of our civilization.  I think it's
wrong to pass laws to give authors the right to deny that to us.  I
think that's as great a wrong as not allowing the author to profit
from his work.

The correct way to deal with bad laws is to change them.  But that
won't happen soon and by the time it happened (and I suspect that in
time it will happen) a lot of old computers would have been rendered
nearly useless if these laws had been followed.  That hasn't
happened because to a large extent these laws are ignored.

There are a LOT of people using old Ataris, Commodores, Tandy
computers and others with copyrighted software that they can't
possibly get through legal means at any price.  But they make it
freely available to one another.  And I'm glad they do.

I think maybe some of the old dos software that can be used on the
200lx but is no longer available for purchase should be considered
the same way.  Not by this listserve.  That makes it an easy target
for lawsuits and I don't think it would be wise to discuss it here
except on this theoretical basis.  But to deny someone a program
that he wants and needs but isn't available to buy just seems wrong
to me.

What do you think?

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>I'm amazed at a few of the new features.  I don't know much about
>Macs and I didn't know it didn't already have protected memory or
>virtual memory.

It has had virtual memory for years.

>I did know it used non-premptive multitasking

"Co-operative" multitasking

>but that's always seemed reasonable to me, if not preferable, on a
>single user system.

In pre-emptive multitasking, the operating system slices up time
segments and parcels them out to the multiple running programs; the
programs see a continuous time block at an apparently slower
operating speed.

"Co-operative" multitasking is called that because it requires the
running program to co-operate, relinquishing the CPU periodically so
that the OTHER "running" programs (in quotes because they AREN'T
running, until the original program relinquishes the resources) can
actually DO something themselves.

On a single-user system, the difference is like night and day.

For example, running the latest OS on my Powerbook - MacOS 9.0.4 -
with "co-operative" multitasking, the software that downloads images
from my digital camera's Smart Media card does not understand the
concept of multitasking AT ALL. I can do NOTHING else while it
transfers files.

On a ten-year-old Amiga, I can play games, process images, create
desktop publishing documents, download e-mail, and browse the web at
the same time; NO PROGRAM can monopolize the system resources (two
exceptions: "disk doctor" type programs that require the drive to be
in an unchanging state to doctor it, and benchmarking programs that
won't measure accurately if other things are happening at the same
time.)

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>Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now that
>SA has been terminated?

AHA!

>I thought I'd compare my home position now, with what I had done before
>using the blob method. It was pretty close. And the great part is now the
>blob is covered by the current position dot on my GPS, even on the
>highest zoom. :)

I had forgotten this was happening! My Garmin StreetPilot has been
estimating errors of 14 or 30 feet instead of 90 or 230 feet.

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Barry wrote:
> <<<<Would be curious if anyone knows if it was ever relegated to
> abandon
> ware. I notice that my manual gives a 1983 copyright date. Seems
> like I
> remember copyrights good for 17 years, but then what happens if not
> renewed?>>>>
>
> Patents expire in 17 years.

Try 20 years. And they are renewable.

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http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/hp200lx.html

Thanks,

Fryday

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>>>>> Another place to look is at www.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos.
Also

Thanks, I've done that ... only the EGA clock ... no source.>>>>

Take a look at
http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/clocks/clock.zip.

That's a full sreen analog CGA clock with c source.

The docs files are in Wordstar format where the last letter of each
word has the high bit set.  You probably can still make most of it
out but if you cant Simtelnet has some Wordstar file converters or
you can read it with Von Buerg's List using the * filter.

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>Wild guess ... CuDn="Cursor Down" key?  On the LX, the down-arrow key
labelled
>"PG DN".
>
>
>Well, whaddya got to lose?

   Bingo! Thanks.



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Thanks Barry.

Duh!  I just walked past a whole category in Simtel ... goes to show what
happens when you rely too much on searches (I looked for "analog clock").

Your suggestion looks promising ... thanks again.

- Longden

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> >>>>> Another place to look is at www.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos.
> Also
>
> Thanks, I've done that ... only the EGA clock ... no source.>>>>
>
> Take a look at
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/clocks/clock.zip.
>
> That's a full sreen analog CGA clock with c source.
>
> The docs files are in Wordstar format where the last letter of each
> word has the high bit set.  You probably can still make most of it
> out but if you cant Simtelnet has some Wordstar file converters or
> you can read it with Von Buerg's List using the * filter.

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> I want to add to what I said before since I now realize I was wrong
> about Lotus releasing 123.  I'd like to get some opinions about old
> software.  A discussion about this would be interesting.  An
> argument wouldn't.  Let's see what happens.

..............

> I think maybe some of the old dos software that can be used on the
> 200lx but is no longer available for purchase should be considered
> the same way.  Not by this listserve.  That makes it an easy target
> for lawsuits and I don't think it would be wise to discuss it here
> except on this theoretical basis.  But to deny someone a program
> that he wants and needs but isn't available to buy just seems wrong
> to me.
>
> What do you think?

I cut out the center of your "discussion!" (G)

I will add the text of the US Constitution:

"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for
limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
respective Writings and Discoveries;"

So one may have to interpret "to promote the progress of Science and
useful arts" and ask if forcing users of older machines for which useful
software is not legally available is "promoting progress" because if
they don't eventually buy newer software for a reasonable price, would
they secondarily be impeding progress of science? (G)

Actually, I've asked this question, too.  Patent and copyright are
intended to reward their creators but only (??) to help the progress of
arts and science.  Might there be leeway to say that if they are
withholding useful "product" and depriving the public for no good,
reasonable reasons of older art and science, that it a misapplication?

Might there be an inherent right of the public to be able to purchase or
make use of that older science - clearly for a reasonable cost.  But
withholding it, it that permitted?   I am not aware of nor am I inclined
to review the case law on this subject.

Back to you, Barry (and others)

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 04:57:33 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> On a ten-year-old Amiga, I can play games, process images, create
> desktop publishing documents, download e-mail, and browse the web at
> the same time; NO PROGRAM can monopolize the system resources (two
> exceptions: "disk doctor" type programs that require the drive to be
> in an unchanging state to doctor it, and benchmarking programs that
> won't measure accurately if other things are happening at the same
> time.)

I am always amazed and still disappointed at how absolutely SLOW things
become when I access a floppy disk on a 500mhz Win system!!!!!

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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Here's the link: http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/reports/mpc/report_e.html

Anyone up to the task of trying to interface it with the LX? Perhaps by
extending a PCMCIA Type II smartmedia adapter?

Just a thought...

Philippe

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 01:21:55 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
>
>
> I don't have Compuserve access, but if the offer (or a copy of it) exists
> somewhere that you (or maybe another member) can make a copy of for me/us, it'd
> be helpful.
>
> Otherwise it'd be just my luck to get a clueless regional rep.

It will not fall onto your head like mannah from heaven :)

The "offer" was a reply to a post in the LOTUSB forum - there is no
official paper. As I understood they (LOTUS) accepted the fact that
1-2-3 was built INTO the palmtop and the owner of a palmtop was
"entiteld" to the SW disks. Maybe part of the reasoning was also that
the palmtop is missing the add-ins which come with the original.

So: you will have to keep your palmtop bill at hand and try <:)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 00:41:01 +0500
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From:         David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Comments: cc: epadin@WAGWEB.COM
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On 2000-04-25 Ed Padin said:
   >Nettamer does this. Whenever you dial in it syncs the time
   >automatically to a specified time server. It's a pretty good
   >internet solution for the LX if you can do without a GUI web
   >browser.

Indeed.  And once one registers the program, one registers it for life.
There is even an excellent Nettamer mailing list for support questions.


Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 08:18:55 +0200
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              JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
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Martin - are you saying you transferred your .ndb files?  Please can you
explain how?
Many thanks
Jez

  Martin Bergvill wrote:

  I just got my Rex-3.
  I have transferred the Hplx notebooks to the device.

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> From:  Fryday  <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 95lx
> Date: Thursday 27/04/2000

>  How much do the HP 95LX run these days?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe
>
Hi Philippe!
I have 95lx in very good condition.
Paul Dworniak

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dear paul,
i pay $50 for them.
export to africa.must be english/american/ good cond.....look very carefully
for small hair line cracks in the hinge area.....that is very bad. coz they
have that problem.....and it costa plenty to fix.
andrew
garron@hotmail.com

















>From: Paul Dworniak <paul.dworniak@POCZTA.FM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>paul.dworniak@POCZTA.FM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: 95lx
>Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 08:26:04 +0200
>
>
> > From:  Fryday  <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> > To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: 95lx
> > Date: Thursday 27/04/2000
>
> >  How much do the HP 95LX run these days?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Philippe
> >
>Hi Philippe!
>I have 95lx in very good condition.
>Paul Dworniak

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Thanks!

Actually, I was just wondering about the price ;-)

Philippe

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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: 95lx


>
> > From:  Fryday  <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> > To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: 95lx
> > Date: Thursday 27/04/2000
>
> >  How much do the HP 95LX run these days?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> Hi Philippe!
> I have 95lx in very good condition.
> Paul Dworniak
>

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From:         Stephan G=?ISO-8859-1?B?9mxkaQ==?= <webdesign@GOELDI.COM>
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>As for loading stuff from the command line, I use Buddy and point and
>click to load 123 sheets.  But I do have a number of keystuff "macros"
>in my filer.ini including a 123 loader - but again, this is a point and
>click from Filer, not from within another dos application.

What is the string I have to insert in filer.ini to start 123 by clicking in
filer on a WK1-sheet? For the GDB, PDB and ADB files I can use Open.exe. This
doesn't work for 123, because open.exe was written for english Palmtops. I have
a german one.

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 03:49:12 -0400
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              Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@VT.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 30 Apr 2000 to 1 May 2000 (#2000-156)
In-Reply-To:  <20000502040122.A860827E@gaylord.async.vt.edu>; from
              LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU on Tue, May 02,
              2000 at 12:00:00AM -0400
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> Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 09:14:53 +0300
> From:    "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
> Subject: Re: chess
>
> I found one shareware do you know of freeware chess

There are sites on the net that list shareware and freeware chess
programs for various platforms.  I don't have all the URLs right
here, but I found a few readily doing a google or yahoo search for
chess sites several weeks ago.  One that is pretty good is:
   http://www.chess-space.com/software.shtml

While doing this search, I came across Don Cross' chenard.  It is
freeware and the DOS/CGA version runs well on the LX, though the
colors look backwards on the LX's LCD.  It isn't fancy, but it
works.  Don's site is:
   http://www.intersrv.com/~dcross/chenard.html

It would be real nice if there were a PAL chess freeware program.
The 80186 would work fine for beginner-class thinking.

Clark

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 08:02:51 +1200
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              Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Thank you for your email. Longden suggested I leave the batteries out for a
period. I will try that and if I still get the same results with a fresh set
of alkalines, I will send the unit to Thaddeus.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

PS Thanks for providing a great service. I have not been able to find a
suitable replacement for the LX which offers me the same degree of
functionality (ie small + support for old dos progs & compilers + long
battery life - usually :) etc. ) and it is good to know that a repair
service exists as I will probably be using my palmtop for a few years to
come.

> Date:    Wed, 3 May 2000 09:02:25 -0500
> From:    Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
> Subject: Re: Battery drain
>
> <<The drain on my batteries have increased substantially compared with my
> old
> unit which only had a d-speed upgrade. A set of batteries (rechargeable
> alkaline) hardly lasts a day.
>
> Stefan Lombaard
> Lower Hutt, New Zealand>>
>
> The only thing I can suggest is to send it back to us on warranty. Sorry
> that it has to travel such a long way. There should only be a 20-25%
> reduction of battery life at worse.

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 04:14:25 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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ÝSorry if this already turned up on the list. My emailprovider is very
bad these days(again).¨

Hello there

I remember discussing this with Jeff the Sheriff some time ago..it seems
that Paypal will launch their service over here in Norway/Europe next month..

It will be a lot easier to get stuff paid when buying things from
private persons in the US.

Read this message from bottom to top for the full story..

Regards

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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack Selby <jackselby99@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Contact me when you can offer Paypal to me in Norway..
To: Martin Bergvill <martin@mobilpost.com>

Thanks for your message.  We will be launching in Europe during the
next month.  Please stay tuned.

Best Regards,

Jack R. Selby

Martin Bergvill <martin@mobilpost.com> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:49:57 -0800, "Jack Selby" wrote:

Got this email from you back in january..are there any progress for
Paypal in Norway/Europe?

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway


> Thanks for your interest in Confinity and our PayPal service.
>
> We currently only offer our service in the United States, but we are in the
> process of launching our service internationally in the months to come. I
> will notify you of the release via email.
>
> If you have any other questions in regard to our service, please feel free
> to contact me at your convenience.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack R. Selby
> Director of Strategic Relations
> Confinity, Inc.
> 165 University Avenue
> Palo Alto, CA 94301
> Tel: 650.330.4608
> Fax: 650.566.3646
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Bergvill Ýmailto:martin@mobilpost.com¨
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 2:26 PM
> To: international@paypal.com
> Subject: Contact me when you can offer Paypal to me in Norway..
>
> Well the subject says it all.. I have looked at your concept and it is
> very interesting..
>
> Please email me when I can sign up..
>
> Regards
> --
> Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
> "This is probably the best button to press"
> -From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

Jack R. Selby
Director of Strategic Relations
X.com, Inc.
165 University Avenue
Palo Alto, CA 94301
Tel: 650.330.4608 Fax: 650.566.3646 Mobile: 650.814.6321

jack@paypal.com j@x.com

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 09:20:11 +0100
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: GPS (off topic)
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hello navigators,

On 4 May 2000, at 4:45, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> >Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now
> >that SA has been terminated?
>
> AHA!
>
> >I thought I'd compare my home position now, with what I had done before
> >using the blob method. It was pretty close. And the great part is now
> >the blob is covered by the current position dot on my GPS, even on the
> >highest zoom. :)
>
> I had forgotten this was happening! My Garmin StreetPilot has been
> estimating errors of 14 or 30 feet instead of 90 or 230 feet.
>
look at this:
http://www.igeb.gov/

Werner


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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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The new version of PDU.COM also works with Nokia phones and not
only with the Siemens S25. It was tested with the Nokia 8210
and Nokia 7110 phones using IrDA. Download from

http:/peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

The ZIP file includes a ROBOT script for use with POST/LX.
This script allows you to handle SMS the same way as emails.
PDU is another mode of transferring SMS between computer and
mobile. Siemens mobiles only allow PDU whereas Nokia allows
text mode and PDU mode. AFAIK, the PDU mode is always used
between mobile and GSM net.

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              Fischer Gyorgy <skiboy@ELENDER.HU>
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Hi List,
I need some help.
I recently got this phone (SH888) relatively cheap and used, in the hope
that I can use it with my HP200LX.
After a quick search in the list archives I found only one person who uses
this phone with the palmtop and the WWWLX software:
-----------------
>I do use the SH888IR with WWW/LX on a regular basis and it works OK after
some tuning
>Ebbe
>*********************************************
>*Ebbe Horneman Tlf:94368467*
-----------------
So, I suppose I need to learn more about "tuning".
I downloaded the WWWLX trial version, but even after some tuning (my way),
there is no connection between the LX and the phone.
Otherwise, the phone works well with my W98SE notebook & IRDA2 and the IR
port on my LX is also OK, it's print fine to my 8224B printer.
Any help is greatly appreciated. ( Ebbe ? )

Best regards to all from Budapest,
Georg

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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Thu, 4 May 2000 04:14:25 -0400, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> It will be a lot easier to get stuff paid when buying things from
> private persons in the US.

WooHoo! It will also keep me from having to pay Billpoint fees to eBay for
customers outside of the U.S. :) This IS good news!

Jeff

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              Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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              SuperHighway
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I just bought an Accton ethercard card so I can attach my LX to my home LAN for
backup purposes.  I will be backing up to my Linux box.  Since it will be later
this weekend before I have time to research the required drivers, etc, to
install on the LX, would someone mind forwarding a copy of their configuration
describing the LX drivers needed for "talking" TCP/IP and any other programs
that they're using to backup to Linux?

Thanks!

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On Mon, 1 May 2000 05:59:38 -0700, Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> wrote:

> WooHoo! It will also keep me from having to pay Billpoint fees to eBay for
> customers outside of the U.S. :) This IS good news!

I forgot to mention that if anyone wants to sign-up with PayPal, here's a
link:

https://secure.paypal.com/auction/pal=jeffj@hiwaay.net


Jeff

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Longden Loo wrote:

> OTOH, my DOS6.22 HELP command does show the errorlevel references for FIND.

What happens when you use the DOS 6.22 on the LX with setver?

Norbert Giese wrote:

> If you own
> a utility that can replace a byte or string in a file by another
> string, it will do the trick. (I have asked for such utility
> in a different context and Ed proposed XLATE, which I could not
> yet get.

String replacement in a text file from the command line is possible
with EDLIN.EXE.  For binary replacements WordPerfect ED.EXE or a
disk editor such as Norton DiskEdit are probably better, but are
not usable in a command line mode (that I can see).  DEBUG can be
used for that purpose.

Steve

P.S.

on the subject of 1-2-3 Barry wrote:
> fjkaufman
> > To retrieve a file when you start 1-2-3 from
> > the operating system prompt, include a -w and
> > the name of the file.  For example, enter
> > 123 -wsales to start 1-2-3 and retrieve a file
> > named SALES.WK1 from the default directory.
<snip>
> Thanks.  I don't think I was ever aware of that.  And I used 123 a
> lot at work.

Same here.... And a second thanks.

SRN

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Hi!

I read that Caldera's WebSpyder browser should be able to work on 200LX-
at least the version which was available some time 1997- 98. I have
searched and no result. The current version seams to have been removed
from Caldera's web site.

Any information about this?

Thanks,

Jorgen

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>> OTOH, my DOS6.22 HELP command does show the errorlevel
>> references for FIND.

>What happens when you use the DOS 6.22 on the LX with setver?

XGREP is only half the size of FIND, offers more than twice the functionality
and it's free:
     http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/xgrep103.zip

DOS 6.22 FIND/SETVER might work, but why bother (except as an exercise)?

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I remember this problem with OPEN.EXE being discussed several weeks ago=
.  Can
you refresh my memory and tell me what keystrokes are used to load a sp=
readsheet
on a german LX?

On the US version of 123, it's /fr  (FileRetrieve).

- Longden





Stephan G=F6ldi <webdesign@GOELDI.COM> on 05/04/2000 02:07:59 AM

Please respond to webdesign@goeldi.com

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>As for loading stuff from the command line, I use Buddy and point and
>click to load 123 sheets.  But I do have a number of keystuff "macros"
>in my filer.ini including a 123 loader - but again, this is a point and
>click from Filer, not from within another dos application.

What is the string I have to insert in filer.ini to start 123 by clicking in
filer on a WK1-sheet? For the GDB, PDB and ADB files I can use Open.exe. This
doesn't work for 123, because open.exe was written for english Palmtops. I have
a german one.


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Georg,

> I recently got this phone (SH888) relatively cheap and used, in the hope
> that I can use it with my HP200LX.
> After a quick search in the list archives I found only one person who uses
> this phone with the palmtop and the WWWLX software:
> -----------------

Do you have your WWW/LX setup working with a modem. If it works the
only difference is to use a

   Port=-1 and a
   ModemInit=AT&F

statement in the ÝMy-ISP¨ setup section in your WWW.CFG. For this you
have to edit the www.cfg file with any text editor availlable.

This is from WWWDOC.TXT :
4.8 USING THE INFRARED PORT AND IrDA

Starting with WWW.EXE version 2.1, WWW/LX supports the
built-in infrared port of the palmtop and can talk the IrDA
protocol. There is an increasing number of cellular phones
with built-in modems that can be used that way. WWW/LX has been tested
with the Nokia 8810 (firmware version 4.5 or higher required) and
Ericsson SH888. Other phones may work as well.

Here is how to set up an IrDA connnection:

 - Configure a setup entry in WWW.CFG so that "Port=-1"
 - Set Baud=38400 for a double speed or Baud=19200 for a
   regular palmtop
 - Place the phone so that the IR ports face each other
 - Set the phone to IR mode
 - Start WWW.EXE

Note that the infrared hardware of the palmtop does not seem to be 100%
compatible with those of the phones, so there are many transmission
errors. The IrDA protocol and some tricks we added to improve error
recovery should compensate for that in most cases, but we cannot
guarantee that it will always work.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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> I'd like to get some opinions about old software.
> ...
> When someone has an old computer that can use an old program
> that is no longer available commercially or any other legal
> way, that begins to seem to me like an abuse of copyright
> laws.

It may seem unfair, but how does it abuse the law?

> > ...
> > It seems there are 2 author's rights involved here.  The
> > right to profit and the right to own, control, deny, etc.

The right to profit may be the REAL reason the law exists,
but I think the legal rights have to do with control.

> ...
> But I'm beginning to think that when there is no longer any
> profit involved, the law should stay out of it.  Old
> programs, like old books, become part of us;  part of who we
> are and what we are.

I think the root problem is that the concept of copyright was
never meant to apply to computer software, since software
hadn't been invented yet.  There were lots of discussions
around this in the '80's.  Software was "copyrighted" because
no one could think of better legal model for protecting it,
and no one ever got around to inventing one.

I think you're right, we need a new law.  But not a change to
existing copyright law--you wouldn't want to permit plagiarism
of Henry James or Herman Hesse just because they're "old."
We need a new law to apply to software, maybe something of a
hybrid of patent and copyright, so that it would expire and
still protect the author's right to profit.

-George
>

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I appreciate the explanation but I'm aware of the difference.  I've
written a number of programs that provide their own time-slicing for
such things as reading/writing simultaneiously and for graphics and
music together.  I've also done this using threads provided by os's
that provide them.  And I've written a few Win31 programs that had
to deal with non-preemptive multitasking.

My point wasn't that preemptive multitasking wasn't better.  I agree
that it is better even on a single user system.  But I don't think a
non-premptive system is unreasonable on a single user system.  The
difference isn't too important for the average user, which is who
single user systems are written for.  Power users can take care of
themselves.

I guess the current terminology is probably "cooperate" and
"preemtive" but I grew up with "preemptive" and "non-preemptive".  I
guess it's just what you're used to.  I haven't had to concern
myself with either, recently, so I haven't kept up with the
terminology.

Barry

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> >I'm amazed at a few of the new features.  I don't know much about
> >Macs and I didn't know it didn't already have protected memory or
> >virtual memory.
>
> It has had virtual memory for years.
>
> >I did know it used non-premptive multitasking
>
> "Co-operative" multitasking
>
> >but that's always seemed reasonable to me, if not preferable, on
a
> >single user system.
>
> In pre-emptive multitasking, the operating system slices up time
> segments and parcels them out to the multiple running programs;
the
> programs see a continuous time block at an apparently slower
> operating speed.
>
> "Co-operative" multitasking is called that because it requires the
> running program to co-operate, relinquishing the CPU periodically
so
> that the OTHER "running" programs (in quotes because they AREN'T
> running, until the original program relinquishes the resources)
can
> actually DO something themselves.
>
> On a single-user system, the difference is like night and day.
>
> For example, running the latest OS on my Powerbook - MacOS 9.0.4 -
> with "co-operative" multitasking, the software that downloads
images
> from my digital camera's Smart Media card does not understand the
> concept of multitasking AT ALL. I can do NOTHING else while it
> transfers files.
>
> On a ten-year-old Amiga, I can play games, process images, create
> desktop publishing documents, download e-mail, and browse the web
at
> the same time; NO PROGRAM can monopolize the system resources (two
> exceptions: "disk doctor" type programs that require the drive to
be
> in an unchanging state to doctor it, and benchmarking programs
that
> won't measure accurately if other things are happening at the same
> time.)
>
> --
>
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Good evening Paul

I see that you have an HP95LX. I is there any possibility that you could
e-mail me the connectivity software files for the machine as my disk became
corrupted and I can no longer up- and download files between my LX95 and my
desktop machine.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Yours sincerely

Frank H. Aldridge (Namibia)
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We will probably start carrying the ACCTON network card soon.  However, I
wanted to ask some questions to existing users:

1.  Why do you need it and in what way do you use it?

2.  How reliable is it?

3.  How much battery drain?

4.  How difficult was it to install and start using it?

5.  Would you recommend it?

6.  Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech support from
us?

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> Barry wrote:
> > <<<<Would be curious if anyone knows if it was ever relegated to
> > abandon
> > ware. I notice that my manual gives a 1983 copyright date. Seems
> > like I
> > remember copyrights good for 17 years, but then what happens if
not
> > renewed?>>>>
> >
> > Patents expire in 17 years.
>
> Try 20 years. And they are renewable.

I just did a little quick web reasearch on patents and you're right
about the 20 year period for patents filed after June 8, 1995.
Patents filed before that date expire in 17 years.  The exception is
design patents (I'm not sure of the exact distinction here) which
expire after 14 years.

The change was made by treaty at the GATT conference at that time in
Uraguay.  (I think it's Uraguay right.  I can't find the reference
now.)

There is also a provision that causes patents to expire earlier if
the fees associated with them are not maintained.  I'm not sure what
these fees are or how this works.  I didn't read that far.

I found a statement that says simply that 17 year patents are not
renewable.  I can't find anything about other patents being
renewable.

I got the information from the following links and from links I
found there:
http://wwwsecure.law.cornell.edu/topics/patent.html
http://www.nolo.com/keyword/patents_home.html
http://www.nolo.com/encyclopedia/faqs/pct/pct8.html#FAQ-306

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I did a search on "clock" and found it.

Barry

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> Thanks Barry.
>
> Duh!  I just walked past a whole category in Simtel ... goes to
show what
> happens when you rely too much on searches (I looked for "analog
clock").
>
> Your suggestion looks promising ... thanks again.
>
> - Longden
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:05 PM
> Subject: CGA Clock with source
>
>
> > >>>>> Another place to look is at
www.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos.
> > Also
> >
> > Thanks, I've done that ... only the EGA clock ... no source.>>>>
> >
> > Take a look at
> > http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/clocks/clock.zip.
> >
> > That's a full sreen analog CGA clock with c source.
> >
> > The docs files are in Wordstar format where the last letter of
each
> > word has the high bit set.  You probably can still make most of
it
> > out but if you cant Simtelnet has some Wordstar file converters
or
> > you can read it with Von Buerg's List using the * filter.
>
>

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From Reuter's this morning:

<<The world's biggest wireless telecom firm, Vodafone AirTouch Plc, shut
down its email system because of the ``Love Bug'' and London's House of
Commons also succumbed and closed its email system for about two hours
while it eradicated it.

                         ``We've got the 'I Love You' virus,'' a
Vodafone spokesman told Reuters in London. ``It's very widespread and I
believe many of the major corporates are affected.''

                         The new virus originates in an email entitled
``I love you'' and reading: ``kindly check the attached LOVELETTER
coming from me.'' Once the attachment is launched, the virus sends
copies of the same email to everybody in the user's address book.

 It targets Microsoft Corp's Outlook software and works on the same
principle as the Melissa virus, which infected about a million
computers, clogging whole networks in the United States and causing $80
million in damage in early 1999.

 The virus also overwrites picture and music files from local and
network drives.>>


Seems that those of us who use archaic, old dos remain generally immune
from these various virii that spread through the newest, most powerful,
"can't be lived without" software.

I use Post/lx on most of my computing platforms including two Win98
systems.  Isn't it nice to know that so far, these "pranks" have no
targeted the obsolete Dos platforms and software!

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On Thu, 4 May 2000 13:01:05 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> 1.  Why do you need it and in what way do you use it?

So I can use my LX while the wife is using the desktop. I check email,
news,etc.

> 2.  How reliable is it?

Extremely

> 3.  How much battery drain?

Low!

> 4.  How difficult was it to install and start using it?

Easy, installation, it slides right in :) Had to cofigure the proper
software to use it

> 5.  Would you recommend it?

Yes!

> 6.  Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech support from
> us?

Nope.

Of course, I don't own one I am using Mack's and need to give it back to him
<grin>.

Jeff

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>
> I cut out the center of your "discussion!" (G)

Smart move.  :)

Even though the thrust of what you've said seems to maybe agree with
me, it's really a different subject.  I think we can assume that the
law is currently on the side of the author of an old program,
whatever the Constitution might say.

The law gives total control to the copyright holder.  The law allows
him to withold his product if he chooses.  That's true, whatever the
Constitution might say.

I guess I agree that "promoting the progress of Science and useful
arts" is a good thing.  But I also thing the principle that people
should get paid for their work is important.  I think that's all
that copyright laws should be about.  But I think they should end
there.

Laws that let an author withhold the product of his mind after it
stops making money for him are counter-productive.

Let's just be thankful that the signers of the constitution didn't
copyright it and then force us to stop using it when it didn't make
them any money.  :)

Barry

> I will add the text of the US Constitution:
>
> "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing
for
> limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to
their
> respective Writings and Discoveries;"
>
> So one may have to interpret "to promote the progress of Science
and
> useful arts" and ask if forcing users of older machines for which
useful
> software is not legally available is "promoting progress" because
if
> they don't eventually buy newer software for a reasonable price,
would
> they secondarily be impeding progress of science? (G)
>
> Actually, I've asked this question, too.  Patent and copyright are
> intended to reward their creators but only (??) to help the
progress of
> arts and science.  Might there be leeway to say that if they are
> withholding useful "product" and depriving the public for no good,
> reasonable reasons of older art and science, that it a
misapplication?
>
> Might there be an inherent right of the public to be able to
purchase or
> make use of that older science - clearly for a reasonable cost.
But
> withholding it, it that permitted?   I am not aware of nor am I
inclined
> to review the case law on this subject.
>
> Back to you, Barry (and others)
>

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 14:52:54 -0400
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Comments: To: Pres Waterman <pres@112motors.com>
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Pres Waterman wrote:
> Wow. I found 1,134 files with a .vbs extension. I deleted them all... I
> guess they're no good anymore. Thanks, Chris, for the further info. Any idea
> how to clean the registry?

That sounds like you were caught up in the fear of the
moment. Slow down or better, stop... and look around first...

What you did is an understandable reaction, but it is at
once exaggerated and insufficient. Let me explain:

1. If you wanted to eradicate the malicious script then
just eliminating VBS files is not enough - you should also
get rid of VBE stuff.

Since the virus infects email systems, you should delete
all email systems you have on your machine.

The virus also puts itself into numerous other "venues" to
act from, so all of them must be deleted too.

See how nonsensical this can become?

And BTW, you may have eliminated some necessary and good
scripts... Hope you have a backup.

2. All this still will not eradicate the virus. You see, it
puts itself into the registry of your Windows machine, and
is "revived" on each reboot (and with Windows, God knows
reboots happen with some frequency! :-) ...)

So to really wipe out the virus - get rid of the registry
too! But this is really total nonsense, see?

So as I said wiping out the VBS files and others is not enough.

It is also an exaggerated reaction because the virus does
not fly into your computer and starts working as it lands.
YOU HAVE YO OPEN THE ATTACHMENT! When you do, the VBScrip
starts up and delivers it deadly payload. Until then,
nothing.

Now if your email item says in the subject "ILOVEYOU", and
the email says "check the LOVELETTER attachment" then
remember this: RESIST the temptation, resist the command,
DO NOT open the attachment. Just DELETE the email, empty
the trash folder..

If you open the attachment, you will be infected. If you
delete the email you will have no ill effects.

So that is why I am saying that the reaction you had was
insufficient to clean the virus, and exaggerated, because
it is really simple to guard yourself from that virus. But
I completely understand your reaction, and totally
empathize with you.

BTW, I got an email like this from my friend Bernard
Torbik. He is a nice enough man, but not known to me as a
"lovey-dovey" guy - so when his email proclaimed
"ILOVEYOU", I smiled and tohught it was a new merchandising
campaign, something... But the attachment was wweird. It
went into the registry etc, so I checked on the Net - and
sure enough, it is a bad bug. By mid day on Thu is shut
down many computer systems all over the world, mostly
Europe and Asia, and it has arrived in the US with a
vengeance. It was reported that the estimates of experts is
that as many as 80% of all mail systems in the world are
infected. Lovely!

BTW, I _will_ plug the benefit of working with Post/LX and
the palmtop in this situation - it is totally impervious to
the bug. I could open and check the attachment and so on
with no ill effects on the system...

Best regards,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 11:52:31 -0700
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For any of you who want the technical details of the Love Letter Worm
http://www.Europe.Datafellows.com/v-descs/love.htm
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Subject:      looking for OLD dos app!
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anyone by any chance have a copy of SMARTCOM 3 (not the LE version) made
by the now long gone modem company HAYES

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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Info on virus came be found at :

 http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/love.htm


There is a good description of how to disinfect a system manually at
http://www.thepope.org/index.pl?node_id=140

>-----Original Message-----
>From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
>Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:53 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ ÝACC¨ VIRUS info on "I LOVE YOU" attachment!!!!!!
>BEWARE!!!!
>
>
>Pres Waterman wrote:
>> Wow. I found 1,134 files with a .vbs extension. I deleted
>them all... I
>> guess they're no good anymore. Thanks, Chris, for the
>further info. Any idea
>> how to clean the registry?
>
>That sounds like you were caught up in the fear of the
>moment. Slow down or better, stop... and look around first...
>
>What you did is an understandable reaction, but it is at
>once exaggerated and insufficient. Let me explain:
>
>1. If you wanted to eradicate the malicious script then
>just eliminating VBS files is not enough - you should also
>get rid of VBE stuff.
>
>Since the virus infects email systems, you should delete
>all email systems you have on your machine.
>
>The virus also puts itself into numerous other "venues" to
>act from, so all of them must be deleted too.
>
>See how nonsensical this can become?
>
>And BTW, you may have eliminated some necessary and good
>scripts... Hope you have a backup.
>
>2. All this still will not eradicate the virus. You see, it
>puts itself into the registry of your Windows machine, and
>is "revived" on each reboot (and with Windows, God knows
>reboots happen with some frequency! :-) ...)
>
>So to really wipe out the virus - get rid of the registry
>too! But this is really total nonsense, see?
>
>So as I said wiping out the VBS files and others is not enough.
>
>It is also an exaggerated reaction because the virus does
>not fly into your computer and starts working as it lands.
>YOU HAVE YO OPEN THE ATTACHMENT! When you do, the VBScrip
>starts up and delivers it deadly payload. Until then,
>nothing.
>
>Now if your email item says in the subject "ILOVEYOU", and
>the email says "check the LOVELETTER attachment" then
>remember this: RESIST the temptation, resist the command,
>DO NOT open the attachment. Just DELETE the email, empty
>the trash folder..
>
>If you open the attachment, you will be infected. If you
>delete the email you will have no ill effects.
>
>So that is why I am saying that the reaction you had was
>insufficient to clean the virus, and exaggerated, because
>it is really simple to guard yourself from that virus. But
>I completely understand your reaction, and totally
>empathize with you.
>
>BTW, I got an email like this from my friend Bernard
>Torbik. He is a nice enough man, but not known to me as a
>"lovey-dovey" guy - so when his email proclaimed
>"ILOVEYOU", I smiled and tohught it was a new merchandising
>campaign, something... But the attachment was wweird. It
>went into the registry etc, so I checked on the Net - and
>sure enough, it is a bad bug. By mid day on Thu is shut
>down many computer systems all over the world, mostly
>Europe and Asia, and it has arrived in the US with a
>vengeance. It was reported that the estimates of experts is
>that as many as 80% of all mail systems in the world are
>infected. Lovely!
>
>BTW, I _will_ plug the benefit of working with Post/LX and
>the palmtop in this situation - it is totally impervious to
>the bug. I could open and check the attachment and so on
>with no ill effects on the system...
>
>Best regards,
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>  http://www.dasoft.com
>
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>I guess the current terminology is probably "cooperate" and
>"preemtive" but I grew up with "preemptive" and "non-preemptive".


To the average user, the phrase should be "Can't_we_all_just_get_along
processing"

- Longden

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A Meshar wrote:
>
> That sounds like you were caught up in the fear of the
> moment. Slow down or better, stop... and look around first...
>
Ýsnip of long, helpful note on handling the ILY virus¨

Your note suggests to me that it might be an appropriate time to tie
all of Microsoft's claims about technology innovation in the anti-trust case
to the wonderful `4-lane-superhighway' that Outlook, executable EMail, and
automatic updating and other Microsoft `features' provides for any errant virus
that wants to use them.

Shall we design the next set of ads for Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer:
`Microsoft: The People who get the viruses to those who need them.' `Microsoft:
The people who helped a hiccough in Hong Kong shut down Parliment in London.'
`Microsoft: Loose Living---or, make it easy today, then pay, pay, pay ...'

I know, I know. I won't give up my day job to become an ad-writer...

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 14:18:36 -0600
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              "Terry A. Ward" <terrywa@ELP.RR.COM>
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Just saw an interesting thermal printer on the Seiko site. The DPU3445 with
pdf specs at:

http://www.seikoprinters.com/pdf/dpu3445.pdf

It has both IrDA and RS-232 interfaces and looks ideal as an HP200LX
printer. It is being promoted as a PDA printer (of course ignoring our
beloved HP200LX!).

Does anyone have any experience using this printer. There was no mention of
printer emulations so thete might be a serious printer driver problem involved.

Thanks!

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 4 May 2000, A Meshar wrote:

Ýbig snip¨

> BTW, I got an email like this from my friend Bernard
> Torbik. He is a nice enough man, but not known to me as a
> "lovey-dovey" guy - so when his email proclaimed
> "ILOVEYOU", I smiled and tohught it was a new merchandising
> campaign, something... But the attachment was wweird. It
> went into the registry etc, so I checked on the Net - and
> sure enough, it is a bad bug. By mid day on Thu is shut
> down many computer systems all over the world, mostly

More precisely, it probably shut down *Windows* systems...

> Europe and Asia, and it has arrived in the US with a
> vengeance. It was reported that the estimates of experts is
> that as many as 80% of all mail systems in the world are
> infected. Lovely!

Are eighty 80% of all mail systems in the world really Outlook based?

I honestly cannot understand why people bother with O/OE when it is common
knowledge that these email clients are vulnerable to this kind of
attack. It's not as if it's the only mail client available...



-Laust

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Then again, with a neighbor like Mack, who needs tech support?

- Longden





Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> on 05/01/2000 11:34:35 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: ACCTON card -- how is it used?





> Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech support from us?

Nope.

Of course, I don't own one I am using Mack's and need to give it back to him

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<<
Your note suggests to me that it might be an appropriate time to tie
all of Microsoft's claims about technology innovation in the anti-trust case
to the wonderful `4-lane-superhighway' that Outlook, executable EMail, and
automatic updating and other Microsoft `features' provides for any errant virus
that wants to use them.
>>



Hey maybe the Borg ship was running Outlook Express when it received Data's
      command to "sleep".



Hmmm, come to think of it, the Borg ship does look like a giant flying windows
      logo <g>.



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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 19:11:34 -0400
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> > sure enough, it is a bad bug. By mid day on Thu is shut
> > down many computer systems all over the world, mostly
>
> More precisely, it probably shut down *Windows* systems...

Yeah... I omitted that point. Did not want anyone to think
I was giving Windows a hard time :) ...

> > Europe and Asia, and it has arrived in the US with a
> > vengeance. It was reported that the estimates of experts is
> > that as many as 80% of all mail systems in the world are
> > infected. Lovely!
>
> Are eighty 80% of all mail systems in the world really Outlook based?

Appaently it outlocked (pun intended!) others too. The
report on the radio spoke of a million computer systems
(presumably Windows <G>...) and then they spoke of 80% of
the world's email systems.

I read of lots and lots of damage in Europe and Asia.

> I honestly cannot understand why people bother with O/OE when it is common
> knowledge that these email clients are vulnerable to this kind of
> attack. It's not as if it's the only mail client available...

Because people are like sheep! Ecercising the brain in
making intelligent choices is considered dumb. I have long
stopped making battle of the wits with the unarmed masses
:) ...

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David Ness wrote:
> Shall we design the next set of ads for Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer:
> `Microsoft: The People who get the viruses to those who need them.' `Microsoft:
> The people who helped a hiccough in Hong Kong shut down Parliment in London.'
> `Microsoft: Loose Living---or, make it easy today, then pay, pay, pay ...'
>
> I know, I know. I won't give up my day job to become an ad-writer...

You may be a bright fellow, especially with ads, but
certainly Microsoft will not hire you for _their_ ads, I
think! :-)

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This is what I got from McAfee site:
http://www.mcafeeb2b.com/asp_set/anti_virus/alerts/intro.asp

----------
VBS/Loveletter Virus
This is a VBS worm. It mails itself to everyone in the address book. It comes
with the subject I Love You, and the attachment loveletterforyou.txt.vbs".

It also has the ability to download an executable, which when run can steal
passwords. Here is the link with a preliminary description and extra.dats/drvs:

http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=98617

Characteristics:
This is a VBScript worm with virus qualities. This worm will arrive in an email
message with this format:

Subject "ILOVEYOU"
Message "kindly check the attached LOVELETTER coming from me."
Attachment "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs"

If the user runs the attachment the worm runs using the Windows Scripting Host
program. This is not normally present on Windows 9x or Windows NT unless
Internet Explorer 5 is installed.

When the worm is first run it drops copies of itself in the following places :
   C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSKERNEL32.VBS
   C:\WINDOWS\WIN32DLL.VBS
   C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.VBS

It also adds the registry keys :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
     \Run\MSKernel32=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSKernel32.vbs
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
      \RunServices\Win32DLL=C:\WINDOWS\Win32DLL.vbs

in order to run the worm at system startup.

The worm replaces the following files:
   *.JPG
   *.JPEG
   *.MP3
   *.MP2
with copies of itself and it adds the extension .VBS to the original filename.
So PICT.JPG would be replaced with PICT.JPG.VBS and this would contain the
worm.

The worm also overwrites the following files:
   *.VBS
   *.VBE
   *.JS
   *.JSE
   *.CSS
   *.WSH
   *.SCT
   *.HTA
with copies of itself and renames the files to *.VBS.

The worm creates a file "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.HTM" which contains the worm and
this is then sent to the IRC channels if the mIRC client is installed. This is
accomplished by the worm replacing the file SCRIPT.INI. After a short delay the
worm uses Microsoft Outlook to send copies of itself to all entries in the
address book. The mails will be of the same format as the original mail.

This worm also has onother trick up it's sleeve in that it tries to download
and install an executable file called WIN-BUGSFIX.EXE from the Internet. This
exe file is a password stealing program that will email any cached passwords to
the mail address MAILME@SUPER.NET.PH In order to facilitate this download the
worm sets the start-up page of Microsoft Internet Explorer to point to the
web-page containing the password stealing trojan.

The email sent by this program is as follows :
-------------copy of email sent-----------
From: goat1@192.168.0.2To: mailme@super.net.ph
Subject: Barok... email.passwords.sender.trojan
X-Mailer: Barok... email.passwords.sender.
trojan---by: spyder
Host: Ýmachine name¨
Username: Ýuser name¨
IP Address: Ývictim IP address¨

RAS Passwords:...Ývictim password info¨
Cache Passwords:...Ývictim password info¨
-------------copy of email sent-----------

The password stealing trojan is also installed via the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
   \Run\WIN-BUGSFIX

to autorun at system startup. After it has been run the password stealing
trojan copies itself to WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WinFAT32.EXE and replaces the registry
key with
   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
      \Run\WinFAT32=WinFAT32.EXE

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 02:42:11 +0200
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> Help wanted!
> Maybe i am just to silly and ignorant, but i try since about 3 months to
> get
> information about a connector cable for my Motorola Star Tac V.3688 (
> same
> Plug as the 130) to connect to the PCMCIA Fax/Modem for a HP LX200 32mB
> Palmtop. In vain.
> All i want is to be able to send and receive E-Mails on the run.
> Equipment is Motorola Star Tac V.3688 and the HP Palmtop LX200 32mB. So
> i need the
> connector cable and the proper Software. If anybody can help, please to
> so.
> My E-Mail is: mosquito@mail.telepac.pt
>
The answer for the curious is the Motorola Star Tac V.3688 is a GSM phone.
The Motorola Part No. you want is CD1306A, Adaptor Cable PCMCIA for v3688.
In case you need software/hardware, you might need CD1180B, PCMCIA Cellect
v.34 33,600 bps; no idea if it works in the 200LX. (copied to
mosquito@mail.telepac.pt)
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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 18:53:37 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> 1.  Why do you need it and in what way do you use it?

Don't know that I need it, but I use several regularly.

At work, I use an Accton card and LXTCP frequently for network
troubleshooting. The IP address I have assigned to my LX is one of two
trusted ip's that will get into some systems I administer (the other one
being my desktop). Portable administrative capability has been invaluable.
I also use it as a portable flash card reader, although this is a two step
process, copying from the flash to my T2T drive, then pop in the accton
and connect to the LX in ftp server mode.

On my home network, I connect to my ISP's newsserver and news.hplx.net to
follow some newsgroups. (occasionally at work too :)  For backup purposes,
I use the PERL mirror package to keep a mirror copy of my LX on one of my
systems. The ftp server in LXTELNET makes this possible. Over a network
this is very quick. Not as fast as backing up to a flash card maybe, but I
don't have an extra large card lying around. I also will do some
websurfing, email, etc after crawling into bed, or when I'm too lazy to
get up in the morning.

Then there's also my LX palmtop webserver that has been running on an
Accton card for over a year.

There's more, but those are the highlights.


> 2.  How reliable is it?

After switching to LXCIC (Stefan Peichl) and the LXETH drivers (Rod
Whitby) I have no troubles at all. My LX server has only had problems 3 or
4 times in the past year, and only because the power went out.


> 3.  How much battery drain?

Some, but no where near any modem I've ever used. I've been online a
couple hours before with no problem.


> 4.  How difficult was it to install and start using it?

I found it easier to configure than dosppp for LXTCP. In WWW/LX it was a
breeze. I am familiar with setting up systems on a network however, and I
also use static IP's. Dynamic IP's would probably be more problematical.


> 5.  Would you recommend it?

Yes, if it met someones needs, and they have a LAN they can connect to. I
also use the Accton cards in several laptops using Win9x and Linux, so it
is a versatile card.


> 6.  Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech support from
> us?

If someone wrote some thorough, easy to follow documentation on
installing and configuring drivers, and how to set it up for some of the
popular software, and then forced the buyers to read it, maybe not.
It's not plug-and-play, but then it's not rocket science either.

HTH,
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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 19:28:40 -0700
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What does PDU do?  I read the doc in the zip and still can't figure it out.
I have a Nokia 6160 and 200LX.  Will this program let me upload my phone
book into the Nokia or something like that?

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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:37 AM
Subject: ANN: PDU V1.3 now works with Nokia phones


> The new version of PDU.COM also works with Nokia phones and not
> only with the Siemens S25. It was tested with the Nokia 8210
> and Nokia 7110 phones using IrDA. Download from
>
> http:/peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip
>
> The ZIP file includes a ROBOT script for use with POST/LX.
> This script allows you to handle SMS the same way as emails.
> PDU is another mode of transferring SMS between computer and
> mobile. Siemens mobiles only allow PDU whereas Nokia allows
> text mode and PDU mode. AFAIK, the PDU mode is always used
> between mobile and GSM net.
>
> Stefan
>
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> Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> > > sure enough, it is a bad bug. By mid day on Thu is shut
> > > down many computer systems all over the world, mostly
> >
> > More precisely, it probably shut down *Windows* systems...
>
> Yeah... I omitted that point. Did not want anyone to think
> I was giving Windows a hard time :) ...
>
> > > Europe and Asia, and it has arrived in the US with a
> > > vengeance. It was reported that the estimates of experts is
> > > that as many as 80% of all mail systems in the world are
> > > infected. Lovely!
> >
> > Are eighty 80% of all mail systems in the world really Outlook based?
>
> Appaently it outlocked (pun intended!) others too. The

I may be wrong but: It sounded as if it ran a Visual Basic Script.  I
would imagine that almost any Windows' based Email system might be able
to run such a script if it or the attachment were opened or
double-clicked????

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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2000 16:05:31 -0600
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I have Smartcom II if that is of any use.

Bob

Sputnik wrote:
>
> anyone by any chance have a copy of SMARTCOM 3 (not the LE version) made
> by the now long gone modem company HAYES
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Longden wrote :

> >> OTOH, my DOS6.22 HELP command does show the errorlevel
> >> references for FIND.
>
> >What happens when you use the DOS 6.22 on the LX with setver?
>
> XGREP is only half the size of FIND, offers more than twice the functionality
> and it's free:
>      http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/xgrep103.zip
>
> DOS 6.22 FIND/SETVER might work, but why bother (except as an exercise)?

I can only recommend everybody to look at XGREP as Longden suggests. I
use it daily with PalEdit as filter to search my ASCII databases.
Examples from my PE.CFG :

Search String in &current file= xgrep -i -n "@@" %s >SCRATCH
Search &WWW+acCIS=xgrep -r -i -nl "@@" c:\w\*.txt c:\w\posthelp.i c:\accis4\accishlp.fld c:\pim\db\computer.db >SCRATCH
String in &PIM finden= xgrep -i -nl "@@" c:\pim\*.pim c:\pro\albstadt.pim >SCRATCH
String in Daten&bank finden= xgrep -i -nl "@@" c:\pim\db\*.db >SCRATCH
Search Help Files of PE/PIM= xgrep -r -i -nl "@@" c:\pim\*.doc c:\pim\help.db c:\pim\db\dabeta.db c:\pim\db\computer.db >SCRATCH


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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 08:15:27 +0200
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Hi Longden,

On Thu, 4 May 2000 08:07:17 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> you refresh my memory and tell me what keystrokes are used to load a sp=
> readsheet
> on a german LX?

/tl (men| - transfer - laden)

GTX
daniel


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   >> you refresh my memory and tell me what keystrokes are used to
   >>load a spreadsheet on a german LX?
Message-Id: <20000505091131.OLEA27191.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.227.228¨>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:11:36 +0000

   >/tl (men| - transfer - laden)

I have the version of OPEN dated 2/21/99 and 9,677 bytes.

Using Norton Utilities, I was able to hex edit the file and found at offset
8454 (x2106):

        /5f!r  -> hex 2f 35 66 21 72

I believe changing the f and r (our US File Retrieve) to t and l will make
it work on the german LXs.

To test, I changed them to q and y, and OPEN then started 123 and promptly
quit, as it should.

If anyone wants(and don't have a hex editor), I could hack it to tl for
them to try.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 12:44:19 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Hal,

> 1.  Why do you need it and in what way do you use it?

To connect to the network in our office.

   Applications:
      email
      FTP and Telnet

To connect to the network at home. (a LINUX server with IP Masquarading
is the gateway to the external Internet via ISDN)

   Applications:
      email
      FTP and Telnet
      WEB
      Backup
      hp200lx with little memory are connected to the net
              all apps and data are taken from the server

> 2.  How reliable is it?

I did *not* have any problem yet.

> 3.  How much battery drain?

I use it all day with one set of Sanyo 1500 nA NiMH batteries on my
hp200lx DS 96+2MB.

> 4.  How difficult was it to install and start using it?

Using the latest LXCIC and LXEN2216 I had no difficulties. The package
which I did download from Rod's webpage didn't require a lot, only name =
of
workgroup and user name.

WWW/LX enter the IP adresses and username and password. Excellent
described in the documentation.

LXTCP enter network parameter, same as WWW/LX. Replace the values in
the cfg sample.

LXgFTP uses the TCP.CFG.

> 5.  Would you recommend it?

If the requirements and the demand are the same, YES!

> 6.  Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech support =
from
> us?

I don't think so. There are quite a few network cards around and so far
I don't see any significant problem being discussed here.

Kind regards

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 12:44:47 +0200
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Longden,

> Then again, with a neighbor like Mack, who needs tech support?

You are in a lucky position.

Kind regards

Helmuth

> - Longden
>
> Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> on 05/01/2000 11:34:35 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please =
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>       to Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Re: ACCTON card -- how is it used?
>
> > Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech support =
from us?
>
> Nope.
>
> Of course, I don't own one I am using Mack's and need to give it back =
to him
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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 12:53:23 +0000
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Lionel Silva wrote:

> What does PDU do?  I read the doc in the zip and still can't figure it =
out.
> I have a Nokia 6160 and 200LX.  Will this program let me upload my =
phone
> book into the Nokia or something like that?

PDU stands for Protocol Data Unit. SMS-PDU stands for Short
Message System-Protocol Data Unit and means, the SMS is encoded
as PDU. The SMS-PDU contains the encoded and packed 7bit message
and several layers for routing information, validity period,
status request and the like.

PDU.COM converts a text SMS to a SMS-PDU or a SMS-PDU to a text
SMS. That's all. It has nothing to do with the mobile's phone
book.

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 10:54:46 -0400
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Fri,  5 May 2000 09:17:36 -0400 (EDT)

10h38m25s ago ...
On Fri,  5 May 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:

> I may be wrong but: It sounded as if it ran a Visual Basic Script.  I
> would imagine that almost any Windows' based Email system might be able
> to run such a script if it or the attachment were opened or
> double-clicked????

Yep, that's what it looks like.  The damage to your computer is done
via WSCRIPT.EXE, but the infection spreads to others apparently only
thru Outlook or OE.  Nasty little bugger  8-(

Received my own copy yesterday (on a UNIX host with PINE mail
software).  No harm done there.


Later,

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According to CERT, the virus also tries to propagate itself thru IRC:

When the worm executes, it will attempt to create a file named script.ini in any
directory that contains certain files associated with the popular IRC client
mIRC. The script file will attempt to send a copy of the worm via DCC to other
people in any IRC channel joined by the victim. We encourage people to disable
automatic reception of files via DCC in any IRC client.

This from: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-04.html

- Longden






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> I may be wrong but: It sounded as if it ran a Visual Basic Script.  I
> would imagine that almost any Windows' based Email system might be able
> to run such a script if it or the attachment were opened or
> double-clicked????

Yep, that's what it looks like.  The damage to your computer is done
via WSCRIPT.EXE, but the infection spreads to others apparently only
thru Outlook or OE.  Nasty little bugger  8-(

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 23:21:44 +0800
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Subject:      WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
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Hi All,

Better safe than sorry! I just got an e-mail from Thaddeus with the
subject fwd: Joke.

Lucky as I was, I received it on my 200LX and could identify the
attachement- seams to be the Love Letter virus/worm from Philippines
which has changed it's subject to 'Joke'.

I can't be 100% that it's the actual virus, or actually a joke- since I
will not try it on my Windows PC. But much point to a real case. So
since we all are 95/100/200L users and many of us in Thaddeus e-mail
lists- be careful!!!

I have sent a message to Thaddeus and warned them- hopefully they can
save their system...

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 08:43:29 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Hi Jorgen and thanks for the heads up.

"Joke" is supposedly a variant of the Love Letter virus, and there's even a
"Mother's Day Order Confirmation" variant:

http://www.europe.datafellows.com/v-descs/love.htm

Looks like it's going to be a long week.

- Longden





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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!




Hi All,

Better safe than sorry! I just got an e-mail from Thaddeus with the
subject fwd: Joke.

Lucky as I was, I received it on my 200LX and could identify the
attachement- seams to be the Love Letter virus/worm from Philippines
which has changed it's subject to 'Joke'.

I can't be 100% that it's the actual virus, or actually a joke- since I
will not try it on my Windows PC. But much point to a real case. So
since we all are 95/100/200L users and many of us in Thaddeus e-mail
lists- be careful!!!

I have sent a message to Thaddeus and warned them- hopefully they can
save their system...

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 12:00:42 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: ACCTON card -- how is it used?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>
>We will probably start carrying the ACCTON network card soon.
>However, I
>wanted to ask some questions to existing users:
>
>1.  Why do you need it and in what way do you use it?

I have a chair that has one leg too short. It's the perfect size to stop it
from wobbling.

>
>2.  How reliable is it?

Works okay so far. It used to slip out but some double-sticky tape fixed
that.

>
>3.  How much battery drain?

None.

>
>4.  How difficult was it to install and start using it?

I had to go to the home depot for the tape but other than that it wasn't too
complicated.

>
>5.  Would you recommend it?

Well... I'm sure you can find something that will work just as well and is
cheaper, but it works for me. YMMV

>
>6.  Do you think it will require a significant amount of tech
>support from
>us?

Well, now that you mention it. The double-sticky tape is getting a little
dry. I was wondering if you could suggest a glue or something. Maybe the
stuff used for the hinge cracks?

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 11:26:15 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

<<I have sent a message to Thaddeus and warned them- hopefully they can
save their system...>>

Yes, we managed to get zapped yesterday and today.  Both times we caught it
immediately after the person opened the email. No significant damage was
done. However, unfortunately, both employees who opened it managed to miss
our warnings and have a mailbox with lots of people outside our company.

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 00:58:23 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, jorgen@PALMTOP.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Again,

Yes, it was the real thing! This virus is BAD, since it changes the
subject and as soon as you open a message with it, it's to late already!
So the only safe thing to do now it to use only your palmtop for e-mail!

Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. Anyone collecting viruses and want me to send you this nasty guy,
please let me know. :)

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Hi All,

Better safe than sorry! I just got an e-mail from Thaddeus with the
subject fwd: Joke.

Lucky as I was, I received it on my 200LX and could identify the
attachement- seams to be the Love Letter virus/worm from Philippines
which has changed it's subject to 'Joke'.

I can't be 100% that it's the actual virus, or actually a joke- since I
will not try it on my Windows PC. But much point to a real case. So
since we all are 95/100/200L users and many of us in Thaddeus e-mail
lists- be careful!!!

I have sent a message to Thaddeus and warned them- hopefully they can
save their system...

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 10:06:01 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey! Don't forget web-based e-mail! That's pretty safe too!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Wallgren" <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:58 AM
Subject: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!


Hi Again,

Yes, it was the real thing! This virus is BAD, since it changes the
subject and as soon as you open a message with it, it's to late already!
So the only safe thing to do now it to use only your palmtop for e-mail!

Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. Anyone collecting viruses and want me to send you this nasty guy,
please let me know. :)

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Hi All,

Better safe than sorry! I just got an e-mail from Thaddeus with the
subject fwd: Joke.

Lucky as I was, I received it on my 200LX and could identify the
attachement- seams to be the Love Letter virus/worm from Philippines
which has changed it's subject to 'Joke'.

I can't be 100% that it's the actual virus, or actually a joke- since I
will not try it on my Windows PC. But much point to a real case. So
since we all are 95/100/200L users and many of us in Thaddeus e-mail
lists- be careful!!!

I have sent a message to Thaddeus and warned them- hopefully they can
save their system...

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 13:32:59 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: ÝACC¨ VIRUS info on "I LOVE YOU" attachment!!!!!! BEWARE!!!!
Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> I may be wrong but: It sounded as if it ran a Visual Basic Script.  I
> would imagine that almost any Windows' based Email system might be able
> to run such a script if it or the attachment were opened or
> double-clicked????

The host system would have to have The DLLs to run VB. Not
every system has it. If you develop in that language you
do, of course. Also, it comes with MSIE 5.0...

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 13:34:42 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET
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From:         Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      PREDICT sat tracking
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Hello listers,

Does anyone in the ham radio community know if the satellite tracking
software "PREDICT" on the S.U.P.E.R. site survived the millenium
rollover?  My copy doesn't seem to be updating anymore when applying
the new keps to it.

Thanks,

Zaaap aka KD4ZCL
zaaap@earthlink.net

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 13:44:29 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         "Albert J. Kind" <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Fri,  5 May 2000 12:57:43 -0500 (EST)

I got my copy of "Love" from the TIMEX datalink LIST...but of course no
damage due to managing all my mail on the LX ;-)

Cheers...AJKind

02h35m59s ago ...
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Better safe than sorry! I just got an e-mail from Thaddeus with the
> subject fwd: Joke.
>
> Lucky as I was, I received it on my 200LX and could identify the
> attachement- seams to be the Love Letter virus/worm from Philippines
> which has changed it's subject to 'Joke'.
>
> I can't be 100% that it's the actual virus, or actually a joke- since I
> will not try it on my Windows PC. But much point to a real case. So
> since we all are 95/100/200L users and many of us in Thaddeus e-mail
> lists- be careful!!!
>
> I have sent a message to Thaddeus and warned them- hopefully they can
> save their system...
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 14:19:31 -0500
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              Jim Dantin <jdantin@KIH.NET>
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From:         Jim Dantin <jdantin@KIH.NET>
Subject:      Bought another HP!
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Well, I've gone and done it again. After going through a 95LX, 100LX, 200LX,
200LX 5meg doublespeed, and a Jornada 430se, I've just bought a Jornada 545
Pocket PC.

While I thoroughly enjoyed the size and functionality of the 200LX, I must
say that the new Jornada is a suitable replacement. With its built in Word,
Excel, and Outlook, it integrates quite nicely with the desktop. I haven't
started to use Pocket Money, but I think it is going to meet my simple
needs. Still no database, but Ilium Software's ListPro has served me well
while I had the 430se and I upgraded it to the PocketPC version.

HP continues to offer a package that enhances the basic system
functionality -- the built-in Omnisolve is a calculator that operates much
like the one in the HP200LX.

I've also been using Pocket Streets. I've changes jobs and have been
house-hunting. I downloaded a map of the city into the Jornadas and they
have saved us froom getting lost quite a few times.

I would like to get on a mail list or otherwise correspond with Jornada
users. Please email me off-list.

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 15:23:50 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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From:         Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bought another HP!
Comments: To: Jim Dantin <jdantin@KIH.NET>
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Jim,

Contrats on the 545... ive been looking at it as well... Im currently using
a combo of
my 1000cx and a Palm V, as the previous CE products never had the battery
life
to keep up with me.  Im really curious how the battery life goes with the
545,  any
comments?

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dantin <jdantin@KIH.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:19 PM
Subject: Bought another HP!


>Well, I've gone and done it again. After going through a 95LX, 100LX,
200LX,
>200LX 5meg doublespeed, and a Jornada 430se, I've just bought a Jornada 545
>Pocket PC.
>
>While I thoroughly enjoyed the size and functionality of the 200LX, I must
>say that the new Jornada is a suitable replacement. With its built in Word,
>Excel, and Outlook, it integrates quite nicely with the desktop. I haven't
>started to use Pocket Money, but I think it is going to meet my simple
>needs. Still no database, but Ilium Software's ListPro has served me well
>while I had the 430se and I upgraded it to the PocketPC version.
>
>HP continues to offer a package that enhances the basic system
>functionality -- the built-in Omnisolve is a calculator that operates much
>like the one in the HP200LX.
>
>I've also been using Pocket Streets. I've changes jobs and have been
>house-hunting. I downloaded a map of the city into the Jornadas and they
>have saved us froom getting lost quite a few times.
>
>I would like to get on a mail list or otherwise correspond with Jornada
>users. Please email me off-list.
>
>Thanks.
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 07:10:24 +0900
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Kazu <QWQ11433@NIFTY.NE.JP>
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From:         Kazu <QWQ11433@NIFTY.NE.JP>
Subject:      Re: ACCTON card -- how is it used?
Comments: To: hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM
In-Reply-To:  <B0AB4DD57CD5D1118A230060975A1005499E03@mailhost.thaddeus.com>
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Hi Hal!

>We will probably start carrying the ACCTON network card soon.  However, I
>wanted to ask some questions to existing users:
Good.

>1.  Why do you need it and in what way do you use it?
Connecting to the server computer at the office.

>3.  How much battery drain?
Accton's card is big battery drain.
EN2216 is 110mA @5V.
Socket communication's LP-E is lower batter drain.
I don't remember exactly but at least LP-E is less than 40mA @5V.

>4.  How difficult was it to install and start using it?
In japan, some user reports the problem on recent version of EN2216.
They said rescent version card doesn't work but old version card
works well in the same software configurations.
You should test it.

>5.  Would you recommend it?
I think Socket's LP-E is better choice.
And recent CF network cards is lower battery drain than Accton's.
I think it is worthwhile to evaluate them.

----------------------------------------------
  Kazu(K.Tanabe)
  Kyoto, Japan

  My HP200LX is Double speed with 1.5MB(C:)
  96MB(F:) and 220MB(A:).

  E-mail QWQ11433@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 13:52:35 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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From:         Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
Subject:      Nokia connect IR: Related to ANN: PDU V1.3 now works with Nokia p
              hones
Comments: To: "Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I would really like to know if I can connect my Nokia 6110 via IR to my
700LX (ironically the 700LX has the 2110 data card built-in but who wants a
2110 these days?)

Theoretically I should be able to send AT commands to the phone via IR from
DataComm isn't it? Or does not 6110 not have a built-in modem?

What's more, I should be able to copy my phonebook from the 6110 to the
700LX (aka 200LX) via IR?

Can anybody help me?

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

     o__
    _.>/)_
   (_) \(_)


.-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE¨
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:53 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: ANN: PDU V1.3 now works with Nokia phones
>
> Lionel Silva wrote:
>
> > What does PDU do?  I read the doc in the zip and still can't figure it
> out.
> > I have a Nokia 6160 and 200LX.  Will this program let me upload my phone
> > book into the Nokia or something like that?
>
> PDU stands for Protocol Data Unit. SMS-PDU stands for Short
> Message System-Protocol Data Unit and means, the SMS is encoded
> as PDU. The SMS-PDU contains the encoded and packed 7bit message
> and several layers for routing information, validity period,
> status request and the like.
>
> PDU.COM converts a text SMS to a SMS-PDU or a SMS-PDU to a text
> SMS. That's all. It has nothing to do with the mobile's phone
> book.
>
> Stefan
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 13:53:43 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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From:         Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
Subject:      Cheap solution: Serial Connection to PC from 700LX (or any other
              LX I suppose)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi

I accidentally stumbled accross a neat way of making a serial cable for the
200LX/700LX which I tried and it works like a charm, and did not cost me a
cent - just took about 30 minutes.

On the HPLX.net site is a link to an article about linking the 200lx to a
GPS locator. The author mentioned that he could not continue using his old
cable made from a CD audio cable (the small connector) using pins 2, 3 and 5
on the HP 200LX.

Well that provided the solution that I needed. The audio connector I
retrieved from my AWE32 sound card linked to the CD-ROM drive, and I had an
old laplink serial cable (9 pin female d-shell connector) which I snipped
down the middle. The 700LX manual provided the connection config (quite
obvious really).

HP pin 2 to PC pin 3 (send vs receive)
HP pin 3 to PC pin 2 (send vs receive)
HP pin 5 to PC pin 5 (ground)

The CD-connector plugs in tightly into the LX, without having to force it
in.

Then I had to let the two computers communicate. Using Hyperterminal on the
PC (P II 266MHz) configuring it for Direct Com2 connection: No hardware flow
control, 115KBps connnection and the Data Comm app on the 700LX, I could
send and receive files using ZModem very nicely.

All this reminded me of the DOS days when this was the way to go to surf the
BBS's and stuff....

Cheers!

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 01:21:01 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
Subject:      Re: REX notetaker files?
Comments: cc: JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

You wrote:

Martin - are you saying you transferred your .ndb files? Please can you

explain how?
------------------
Well I used the Hplx to create a file with all the info I wanted. Then
I imported the textfile
into the Truesync thing and then it was a _lot_ of cut and paste to
have it "look" like I wanted.

When I importered the file from the Hplx it was one big file..

This is most certainly not the easiest way to do it, but the Easter
bunny stole my brain, and
I had limited time with the pcmcia port I had and did not find any
better solution..

(PS! My brother works in Alcatel and was down in France for weeks on a
Alcatel course some time ago....)

Regards
--
Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
"This is probably the best button to press"
-From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 16:57:06 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      Re: REX notetaker files?
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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If somebody is interested, I do

  200LX (ndb, adb, pdb) ---> Outlook --> Rex

I wrote a quick/dirty VB procedure in outlook that automates the import of
the ndb file. I use this with Curtis' Outlook to HP LX Converter and then I
always have my 200LX synchronising Outlook, then the REX. If somebody wants
it, let me know.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Martin Bergvill
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 16:21
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: REX notetaker files?
>
>
> You wrote:
>
> Martin - are you saying you transferred your .ndb files? Please can you
>
> explain how?
> ------------------
> Well I used the Hplx to create a file with all the info I wanted. Then
> I imported the textfile
> into the Truesync thing and then it was a _lot_ of cut and paste to
> have it "look" like I wanted.
>
> When I importered the file from the Hplx it was one big file..
>
> This is most certainly not the easiest way to do it, but the Easter
> bunny stole my brain, and
> I had limited time with the pcmcia port I had and did not find any
> better solution..
>
> (PS! My brother works in Alcatel and was down in France for weeks on a
> Alcatel course some time ago....)
>
> Regards
> --
> Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
> "This is probably the best button to press"
> -From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 02:02:17 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Nokia connect IR: Related to ANN: PDU V1.3 now works with
              Nokia p hones
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On 05.05.00 at 13:52 Klopper Donald wrote:

>I would really like to know if I can connect my Nokia 6110 via IR to
my
>700LX

I have not tested this..but it may work for some of what you want..see
below..

>(ironically the 700LX has the 2110 data card built-in but who wants a
>2110 these days?)

I used my old 2110i for about a half a year while I waited for my Nokia
7110..okey nothing
more..would not go back to the 2110i now that I have the 7110 :-)

>Theoretically I should be able to send AT commands to the phone via IR
from
>DataComm isn't it?

Theoretically you maybe could..but the 6110 does not talk irda. It uses
Direct Ir which
is a "Nokia standard" or something.. And that complicates things..

> Or does not 6110 not have a built-in modem?

The 61*' series does _not_ have a built in modem. It can be used for
data with a softwaremodem
Read:Nokia Cellular Data Suite..) will never work on a Hplx.

>What's more, I should be able to copy my phonebook from the 6110 to
the
>700LX (aka 200LX) via IR?

I am not optimistic. Www/lx or ir.exe uses irda to talk to a irdaphone.
Since 6110 does
not use irda it is not very likely. If you are in the market for a new
phone you should consider
a phone with a _real_ modem built in. Daniel is working on a a webpage
about Hplx/irdaphones.

>Can anybody help me?

I hope I did..

Regards
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On Fri, 5 May 2000 16:57:06 -0700, "Loic Sautour" <loic.sautour@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> If somebody is interested, I do
>
>   200LX (ndb, adb, pdb) ---> Outlook --> Rex

Yes I would like this..

> I wrote a quick/dirty VB procedure in outlook that automates the import of
> the ndb file. I use this with Curtis' Outlook to HP LX Converter and then I
> always have my 200LX synchronising Outlook, then the REX. If somebody wants
> it, let me know.

I do not have a pcmcia slot yet. But do you use this vb procedure on a
laptop? Do you have to use the Truesync program to import the Outlook
info?

Please mail it to me and I am sure I will understand..

Regards..

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If you go to www.shopper.com -> Handhelds: Accessories and scroll down
to 'Hewlett-Packard Co' & '20MB Flash Disk for the HP200LX' you'll find
it shows pcZone selling this for $996.99 The 'Last Updated' column says =
5/4/2000!!
Wonder if they are selling any??
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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I still use a HP 20 meg flash card that I paid about the same amount for in
1994!

Colin

If you go to www.shopper.com -> Handhelds: Accessories and scroll down
to 'Hewlett-Packard Co' & '20MB Flash Disk for the HP200LX' you'll find
it shows pcZone selling this for $996.99 The 'Last Updated' column says
5/4/2000!!
Wonder if they are selling any??
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Greetings...
I was searching through the net for a gameboy emulator for the 200 LX...
All searches turned up to no avial....
I found a link to the No Cash Gameboy emulator site...
But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any help for an emulator running
on the 200LX...
Does anyone have an emulator that runs on the 200 LX?
Any help would be appreciated...
Thankyou
Andre

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 23:45:38 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>Yes, it was the real thing! This virus is BAD, since it changes the
>subject and as soon as you open a message with it, it's to late already!
>So the only safe thing to do now it to use only your palmtop for e-mail!

Or just not open any suspicious attachments to e-mail messages. If in
doubt, ask the person who sent it to you if he meant to send it.

As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
propagate unless you open an attachment. Even with Outlook, a virus
can't spread simply by reading the message. I don't think MS will ever
make Outlook take actions based on the text of an e-mail, because
doing so would open up a security hole big enough to put them out of
business.

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Subject:      Re: REX notetaker files?
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Have REX and would be interested in receiving what you have and
further details of method you can provide.  Thanks!

Ray Simons
ray.simons@juno.com

On Fri, 5 May 2000 16:57:06 -0700 Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
writes:
> If somebody is interested, I do
>
>   200LX (ndb, adb, pdb) ---> Outlook --> Rex
>
> I wrote a quick/dirty VB procedure in outlook that automates the
> import of
> the ndb file. I use this with Curtis' Outlook to HP LX Converter and
> then I
> always have my 200LX synchronising Outlook, then the REX. If
> somebody wants
> it, let me know.
>
________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 00:33:25 +0500
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On 2000-05-02 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >Thanks for the URL to GDBWIN. Now bookmarked.
   >Another cool way to use GDBWIN is to run multiple copies of the
   >program. Cutting and pasting from one database's notes field to
   >another is a snap--a lot easier than trying to do the same thing in
   >CPack or even on the Palmtop (assuming default clipboard size.)
   >Using a standard .NDB file I can copy whole records from one
   >NoteTaker file and paste it in another NDB file.  I don't think the
   >same would be true for copying and pasting records from one custom
   >database to another in which the record structures are different.

I've downloaded and installed this program, and I'm curious as to its
specific function.  Is it to run the Notes program from the 200LX on the
desktop?

Thanks,

Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 00:33:32 +0500
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MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-04-28 Hal Goldstein  said:
   >The new palmtops we have in stock are going VERY fast -- we are
   >down to 40. We sell them as 8 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Contact
   >wayne@thaddeus.com).

Are there any new palmtops left, pray tell?  And if there, is it still
possible to reserve one?


Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Date:         Fri, 5 May 2000 22:39:22 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
Comments: To: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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There is a VBScript that can be called by the "preview pane" of Outlook, if
HTML mail is enabled.  Since Outlook has native HTML reading ability,
including VB/Javascript... well, if the message is HTML and contains "evil"
HTML/VB/Java code, it can get executed when the preview pane reads it.

I know because we got bit by this at work... several months ago.  I don't
remember the virus name offhand, but there is one out there like this.  I
had to clean up the mess...

-- Bill



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Subject: Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!


As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
propagate unless you open an attachment. Even with Outlook, a virus
can't spread simply by reading the message. I don't think MS will ever
make Outlook take actions based on the text of an e-mail, because
doing so would open up a security hole big enough to put them out of
business.

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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> Or just not open any suspicious attachments to e-mail messages. If in
> doubt, ask the person who sent it to you if he meant to send it.
>
> As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
> propagate unless you open an attachment. Even with Outlook, a virus
> can't spread simply by reading the message. I don't think MS will ever
> make Outlook take actions based on the text of an e-mail, because
> doing so would open up a security hole big enough to put them out of
> business.
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron

While you are right, I guess, in theory, sadly what you say may not be
correct in practice. The issue has to do with getting a piece of software to
`misbehave' and thru that misbehavior to get the effect of `executing' some
code, be it in an attachment or elsewhere.

Indeed, IIRC, the `Morris worm' that started off this wonderful tradition,
exploited a fault in the `normal' reading sequence.

So, while I think it is surely _very_ difficult to find an exploitable error
and then to exploit it, I have _no doubt whatsoever_ that there are explotable
errors in all browsers (they're complicated pieces of code, and the chances
that they are 100% `right' are 0).

Admittedly, stupid gaping holes like those that plague Outlook are mostly
confined to software that grows in the pure air of Redmond, but I'm afraid
that there are likely countless other---hopefully smaller---holes that will
plague all of us for a good while yet.

So, I surely agree that not opening any unknown attachments is a `necessary'
policy, I'm afraid that it may not always be sufficient.

I do think that it would probably be sufficient, at the current state of the
art, to treat all messages as pure ascii text, and not allow them to be
`interpreted' by any complex code. Of course this rules out all active java,
javascript and other forms of HTML elaborations. But it should feel perfectly normal to lots of
HP200 users, as reading messages as straight ascii is an everyday activity for lots of them.

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 10:49:17 -0100
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From:         Paulo Custodio <paulocustodio@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      X-Finder + Xfs
Comments: cc: RXF10242@nifty.ne.jp

I have just tried to setup X-Finder with Xfs to be able to copy
files between the Palmtop and the Windows-98 PC through the
serial link.

It worked on the first try, with no configuration hassle!
We have to thank Gaku Nakagawa for this!

Detailed steps:
- download xfr11b5.zip, overwrite your R.10 finder.exm with the
  new one in this archive (save a backup just in case!)
- download xfs.zip, extract the xfs.exe to any directory in
  the Win-PC
- connect both computers with the serial cable
- run xfs.exe on the Win-PC
- open X-Finder, check the remote settings (Menu-Remote),
  press F5 (goto), write "*c:\", and the root of the Win-PC C:
  drive appears in the X-Finder window

That's it! I have to confess that I did not try it before
because I thought the setup would be more difficult.

Hope this helps,
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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 07:53:53 -0400
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On Sat, 6 May 2000, Stillsong - wrote:

No Cash is the only emulator if any that will run on your 200lX (better
have a double speed unit also!!) and forget about playing any cart's over
16mbit's too

> Greetings...
> I was searching through the net for a gameboy emulator for the 200 LX...
> All searches turned up to no avial....
> I found a link to the No Cash Gameboy emulator site...
> But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any help for an emulator running
> on the 200LX...
> Does anyone have an emulator that runs on the 200 LX?
> Any help would be appreciated...
> Thankyou
> Andre
>
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Looking for 4MB memory upgrade chip

The subject line says it all.
If you have one and would like to sell it drop me a line off the List.

What I'v done is succeeded in
upgrading one of my 100LX 2MB
to a 5MB and I need this chip to
upgrade the other.

Actually I need two chips because the one I used came out of my 200LX that has just been sold.


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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 14:38:39 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
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> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 (now more accurate!)

Thanks - much easier to now find that FREECELL! (G)

And thanks for all of the games.

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> I've downloaded and installed this program, and I'm curious as to its
> specific function.  Is it to run the Notes program from the 200LX on the
> desktop?

It is a Windows' version of the various database applications rolled
into one.  The Menus are "distorted" since they use Japanese
fonts/words.  You have to presume that many of the functions and
function keys mirror those on the HP itself and go with it.  For
instance, F9 is OPEN.  Or just use the OPEN button and find a desktop
copy of your files and view them.   Work with a copy of any database
file (so you don't blow your only good backup) while you learn the
functions by experimenting.  I generally use it just to view things.

It does not do Appointment files.

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 11:32:12 -0400
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Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!
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Fryday wrote:
> Hey! Don't forget web-based e-mail! That's pretty safe too!

Really? Please try it - but make sure to take a full backup
of your entire machine first! :-) (Don't try .. it'll
infect your machine...)

let's put the thinking caps on: When you view your
web-based email using _your browser_, running on _your
machine_, the stuff you see is downloaded to _your machine_
so _your browser_ can "paint" it on the screen.

When you click on the link to the attachment, the browser
dutifully downloads it to _your machine_ from the server,
and opens up that attachment file on _your machine_.
Boom!!! You are infected!

The misconception is that what you see on your screen from
Web-based email is NOT ON YOUR machine. Yeah, right! In
order to "paint" the stuff on your screen your borwser must
download the information and put it on YOUR MACHINE, then
paint it. Check your cache!

With email on your machine, clicking on the link doe the
attachment simply brings up a LOCAL FILE into memory. When
you click on an attachment with Web-based email you bring
into memory a REMOTE File - but both end up in the memory
of your mahcine, both are activated because they are .EXEs,
and both have the same lethal payload and consequences.

The reason Post/LX is safe from that particular virus is
that Post/LX does not automatically opens the file in the
type it is, i.e. if the attachment is a JPEG, you must
activate LXPIC or some other viewer, if it is an
executable, you must specifically run it. (Of course, even
if you run VB Scripts on the palmtop it is meaningless -
there is no VB that I know that can run that script on the
palmtop. I suspect the same is true for Goin' Postal!

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Tim,

This is an old message you posted on Sun, 16 Apr 2000.
Sorry to react so late...

Timothy P Kelley wrote:
> This comment was with regards to a RIM having
> an 80386.
> Sorry for the confusion.
> Tim
>
> > Yes, that is what I have been told.

I believe the RIM is 80186 cpu, same as the 200LX. My info
is rather aged, so I may be wrong. I would love to have one
of those critters!

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I have  (2) 48 Meg Compact Flash name Brand Simple Technologies disk
available. These disks are in excellent condition and have hardly been
used except to test a customer's new product at work. I am selling them
for $75.00 a piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have
(1) 85 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am selling this disk
for $120.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I still have (5) 20
Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell  (1) 20 Meg
disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20
Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If are only interested in
name brand Sandisks,, then I have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks available
as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus
$5.00 for shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment
to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that you disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out the
very next day unless I receive your payment on A Saturday and then they
will go out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place
them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are
interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or
(disks) for you. The response so far has been really great and the
people I have worked with have been just terrific!   Thanks alot!
Scott

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> I believe the RIM is 80186 cpu, same as the 200LX. My info
> is rather aged, so I may be wrong. I would love to have one
> of those critters!

I actually have one and it is a 386 processor running their own OS.
They have a development environment for it that you can use it to
create your own apps and upload to it.

Cheers,
 Mack

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Suresh Nirody wrote:
> If you go to www.shopper.com -> Handhelds: Accessories and scroll down
> to 'Hewlett-Packard Co' & '20MB Flash Disk for the HP200LX' you'll find
> it shows pcZone selling this for $996.99 The 'Last Updated' column says 5/4/2000!!
> Wonder if they are selling any??

Must be they forgot to add "studded with diamonds, and
gold-plated - designer model!" :-)

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Curtis Cameron wrote:

> Or just not open any suspicious attachments to e-mail
> messages. If in doubt, ask the person who sent it to you if
> he meant to send it.

But people are so conditioned to act like zompbies. I
called my old customers (another business, not D&A) and
over half of them opened it because they were intrigued!
(more like idiots, if you ask me...)

> As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
> propagate unless you open an attachment. Even with Outlook,
> a virus can't spread simply by reading the message.

This particular virus (worm, really) cannot dispense its
dealy payload unless OPENED. Even that is not enough! You
have to have VB DLLs in order for the script to really
start working. For a THEORETICAL example ONLY, you can open
the attachment with Notepad and no damage will occur
(PLEASE DO NOT DO IT! YOU NEVER KNOW what your system might
do, despite best plans!). But this worm has an extension of
EXE, which makes Netscape and MSIE and Outlook want to
simply execute it ("open it"). If the VB DLLs are present
on the machine, you have a mess.

***** I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that no one opens this worm - not
even with Notepad, you may inadvertently manage to get your
machine infected! Loss of data (and friends) will result!
*****

> I don't think MS will ever make Outlook take actions
> based on the text of an e-mail, because doing so would open
> up a security hole big enough to put them out of business.

But that happens already! It uses the extension of the file
to decide the association and how to "open" a file...

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David Ness wrote:
> Admittedly, stupid gaping holes like those that plague Outlook are mostly
> confined to software that grows in the pure air of Redmond, but I'm afraid
> that there are likely countless other---hopefully smaller---holes that will
> plague all of us for a good while yet.

Aha! So you think it is the available oxygen that causes
the stupidity... I always thought it was the _lack_ of
oxygen in the brains at Redmond... :-) ...

> I do think that it would probably be sufficient, at the current state of the
> art, to treat all messages as pure ascii text, and not allow them to be
> `interpreted' by any complex code. Of course this rules out all active java,
> javascript and other forms of HTML elaborations. But it should feel perfectly normal to lots of
> HP200 users, as reading messages as straight ascii is an everyday activity for lots of them.

It takes some definite amount of time to consciously form an
association between an attached file and its "viewer", i.e.
run a program that open some attchement file.

Many people get very lazy, and Redmond jumped in with a
solution: We'll let Windows do the legwork for you.

This of course is part of the environment allowing viruses
to spread so easily.

Now if someone calculated the amount of time it takes to
form the association consciouly vs. the amount of time it
takes to clean your machine from viruses, and the value of
lost data, I suspect that the conclusions are completely
supporting what you say. But realistically, the zombies
generation that Windows has reared will never let facts
confuse their laziness. :-(

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Mack Baggette wrote:
> > I believe the RIM is 80186 cpu, same as the 200LX. My info
> > is rather aged, so I may be wrong. I would love to have one
> > of those critters!
>
> I actually have one and it is a 386 processor running their own OS.
> They have a development environment for it that you can use it to
> create your own apps and upload to it.

Thanks for the info. I found the ancient brochure I got in
1997 and it was then a 80186 with 256K program memory...
Good to see they moved up the cpu chain.

Which service do you use it with? How is the range? Power?
Sizes of emails - any limitations? How much storage can you
have for emails and messages? How are the batteris lasting?
What kind of batteries? Do you know which services in the
country use this pager? TIA...

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You are right - it was almost too easy - now if only I could find the
energy to really learn xfinder!

But now I would like to know when copying files between systems, there
is an option for UPDATE (or whatever).

What does UPDATE do?  Copy NEW files which don't exist on the RECEIVE
side and copy newer versions of existing files?

I'm still looking for a function that will sync both sides - which
includes erasing files from the "archive" (desktop copies of my hp
system) which are no longer on the hp.

PENIEL - who added this xfs function that is now in xfinder?  Might they
be amenable to a sync function?  Is it the xfs author or the xfinder
author?  And sorry, if I don't know who wrote what!!!!!

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In addition to the comments from Bill Childers about the preview pane,
there was/is a virus that will "fire" if you simply happen to pass your
mouse pointer over the attachment icon -- no opening of the attachment
necessary.  This one first appeared in the wild last year, if I remember
correctly.  I don't recall the name offhand, but I expect it's documented
on all the major anti-virus sites.

Rick

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On 5/5/00 at 11:45 PM Curtis Cameron wrote:

>As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
>propagate unless you open an attachment. Even with Outlook, a virus
>can't spread simply by reading the message. I don't think MS will ever
>make Outlook take actions based on the text of an e-mail, because
>doing so would open up a security hole big enough to put them out of
>business.

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> This particular virus (worm, really) cannot dispense its
> dealy payload unless OPENED. Even that is not enough! You
> have to have VB DLLs in order for the script to really
> start working. For a THEORETICAL example ONLY, you can open
> the attachment with Notepad and no damage will occur
> (PLEASE DO NOT DO IT! YOU NEVER KNOW what your system might
> do, despite best plans!). But this worm has an extension of
> EXE, which makes Netscape and MSIE and Outlook want to
> simply execute it ("open it"). If the VB DLLs are present
> on the machine, you have a mess.

I use outlook express and I have never seen it launch an
exe yet, it does dynamicaly show jpg's gifs and htm pages
to the best of my knowledge you cannot get a virus introduced
via these type of files.

One thing that makes me nervous about Explorer is the pop
up panels, web pages that do this get blackballed by me
straight away.  Nothing should pop-up redirect etc unless
you initiate it.

Your right about the windows laziness, I've slipped into
the habit of auto-saving passwords in explorer.  It's funny
I was reminiscing the other day of how I used to access
the internet via a slip account and used to run Pine
to get mail.  Surfing the web was more like casting your
fishing line in to the ocean, Occasionally you would telnet
but with modems at 2400 it was more like swimming
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18m58s ago ...
On Sat,  6 May 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:

> But now I would like to know when copying files between systems, there
> is an option for UPDATE (or whatever).
>
> What does UPDATE do?  Copy NEW files which don't exist on the RECEIVE
> side and copy newer versions of existing files?

Yes.

> I'm still looking for a function that will sync both sides - which
> includes erasing files from the "archive" (desktop copies of my hp
> system) which are no longer on the hp.

AFAIK Starting with XF R.10 (the one on SUPER), there's a
unidirectional sync function available.  Supposed to do just what you
want.  This might only be in the R.11 beta versions, but I think it's
in R.10  The sync function is a parameter in the XF COPY command, not
in XFS.

> PENIEL - who added this xfs function that is now in xfinder?  Might =
they
> be amenable to a sync function?  Is it the xfs author or the xfinder
> author?  And sorry, if I don't know who wrote what!!!!!

Yes, and yes.  Both XF and XFS are by the same author (Gaku Nakagawa).
As for the sync capability, see above   8-)

Incidentally there's a new beta xfs that allows setting com1 - com4
and has some other improvements.


HTH

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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, you wrote at 11:32 AM 5/6/00 -0400
>I believe the RIM is 80186 cpu, same as the 200LX. My info
>is rather aged, so I may be wrong. I would love to have one
>of those critters!

Nope, it's a 386.  From their website at
http://www.blackberry.net/overview/bbie_overview.shtml we find "With an
Intel386=99 processor, 2 MB of memory, a wireless modem and integrated
email/organizer software the BlackBerry Handheld sets new standards for
mobile devices."

They will also have RSN a 4 meg model and a model with a Palm-sized screen
with 5 megs.

        C, who's played with one and found it a neat toy, but a bear to program

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Mike,

>Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now that
>SA has been terminated?

I tried yesterday: Taking 106 measurements at the same
particular position the error is reduced to one third of the
value before SA was switched off. How does that compare to
your results ?

Regards
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> AFAIK Starting with XF R.10 (the one on SUPER), there's a
> unidirectional sync function available.  Supposed to do just what you
> want.  This might only be in the R.11 beta versions, but I think it's
> in R.10  The sync function is a parameter in the XF COPY command, not
> in XFS.

THANKS A LOT!!!!  I guess reading the docs and the old docs and the
update docs would help as would knowing xfinder in any event.

Just sync-ed my 32meg c: drive and 40meg a: drive back to the desktop,
cleaning out some older stuff and copying some newer stuff.

The following lines copy/sync-ed the a: and then c: with a directory on
my desktop system:

 cp 210 . a:\  *d:\100\a2\
 cp 210 . c:\ *d:\100\c\

As the docs warn, be CAREFUL since if you point to the wrong desktop
directory, sync could erase everything not found on the HP!!!!!!

Is there a way I can FIX these commands into xfinder like a macro or
similar (I'm sure there is!!!!)?  So that I don't have to type (or
mis-type) then?  THANKS.

Oh, one other thing (yeah, just ONE other thing (G)), is there an
EXCLUDE type command for COPY???  So that I don't keep copying my tremm
file or other large "swap" files that change - hmmm, maybe this swap
file does not change date and is not affected?????  I guess I don't have
an SC swap file at the moment.


> Incidentally there's a new beta xfs that allows setting com1 - com4
> and has some other improvements.

I'm fortunately - the HP cable has been com1 for years now on multiple
desktops, with the modem as com2.

But where can one find this beta?

And are you re-opening the Peniel Tutorial Classroom for Xfinder? (G)


Again, thanks.

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dmb10@SWBELL.NET asked "Are there any new palmtops left, pray tell?  And if
there, is it still
possible to reserve one?"


Please check the status of new machines on http://www.palmtoppaper.com
Looks like the last batch was grabbed up.

Reminds me of an old witticism--"Around our dinner table there are only two
kinds of people, 'The Quick and the Dead.'"

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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>***** I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that no one opens this worm - not
>even with Notepad, you may inadvertently manage to get your
>machine infected! Loss of data (and friends) will result!
>*****

Good advice.

Let's hope Nathalie's PC doesn't get infected or it'll take out most of the list
when members get an "ILOVEYOU" note from her <g>.

>called my old customers (another business, not D&A) and
>over half of them opened it because they were intrigued!
>(more like idiots, if you ask me...)

C'mon Avi, cut some slack for geeks with more heart than good sense!

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Hi again, Fred --

01h33s ago ...
On Sat,  6 May 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:

> The following lines copy/sync-ed the a: and then c: with a directory on
> my desktop system:
>
>  cp 210 . a:\  *d:\100\a2\
>  cp 210 . c:\ *d:\100\c\
>
> Is there a way I can FIX these commands into xfinder like a macro or
> similar (I'm sure there is!!!!)?  So that I don't have to type (or
> mis-type) then?  THANKS.

Yep, and it's simple.  Just use your favorite editor to type each line
as a separate file, and save it with your choice of name, and either
XFE or XFM suffix.  They're pretty much the same except XFM asks for
confirmation.  The palmtop screen setup that comes with XF already has
it set up using a desktop directory defined in the .env (the %$
parameter).  These XFE or XFM files can put in your palmtop
subdirectory (or other launch directory), be given icons and launched
like anything else.

> Oh, one other thing (yeah, just ONE other thing (G)), is there an
> EXCLUDE type command for COPY???  So that I don't keep copying my tremm
> file or other large "swap" files that change - hmmm, maybe this swap
> file does not change date and is not affected?????  I guess I don't =
have
> an SC swap file at the moment.

Don't think so, but what I did with my internal c: to a: backup is to
create a dummy tremm.swp file with a date sometime next year, so with
copy set to update it doesn't get overwritten by the real 2MB file.

> But where can one find this beta?

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/beta/xf/index.htm

> And are you re-opening the Peniel Tutorial Classroom for Xfinder? (G)

Kinda looks like it   8->>


Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 22:20:35 +0000
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I downloaded a copy of XGREP (v1.03) from SUPER, and decided to
compare it with a prog called GREP.COM (v1.2) which came with
Borland's Turbo C (v2.01).

Initially, I was just curious as to which was faster, so I set
them looking for a phone number across all files, recursing
sub-dirs, reporting just file names.

grep -dl 807177 *.*
xgrep -rl 807177 *.*

GREP found it in two files. XGREP in just one, missing my
private.pdb file (which was closed). The docs claim that XGREP
is an extremely faithful UNIX clone, even down to some quirks.
Is this a quirk? Is it a record length issue? Any ideas why it
should fail to find the data?

TIA

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 15:55:12 -0700
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I've never noticed this with XGREP, but then it might've happened and I never
noticed.

I did try creating two files with your number string imbedded and scattered them
into two different directory levels and XGREP found them both.

Without knowing more about the specifics of your private.pdb (and it sounds like
something you'd not want to share anyway), I'd have to guess that it's a bug in
XGREP, if another GREP was able to find it.  I don't know of any specific
limitation that would make XGREP miss what GREP did not.

I would be curious to know if XGREP was able to find it in private.pdb on a
simple search (ie on the same directory level as the command)... and whether
FIND can find it also (on the same directory level).

- Longden





Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> on 05/06/2000 03:20:35 PM

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Subject:  XGREP Misses Data?




I downloaded a copy of XGREP (v1.03) from SUPER, and decided to
compare it with a prog called GREP.COM (v1.2) which came with
Borland's Turbo C (v2.01).

Initially, I was just curious as to which was faster, so I set
them looking for a phone number across all files, recursing
sub-dirs, reporting just file names.

grep -dl 807177 *.*
xgrep -rl 807177 *.*

GREP found it in two files. XGREP in just one, missing my
private.pdb file (which was closed). The docs claim that XGREP
is an extremely faithful UNIX clone, even down to some quirks.
Is this a quirk? Is it a record length issue? Any ideas why it
should fail to find the data?

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>Let's hope Nathalie's PC doesn't get infected or it'll take out most
>of the list when members get an "ILOVEYOU" note from her <g>.

I read MY mail using Eudora Pro on a Mac....

And Norton AntiVirus checks 'em all as they come in....

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On Sat, 6 May 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> I did try creating two files with your number string imbedded and scattered them
> into two different directory levels and XGREP found them both.
>
> Without knowing more about the specifics of your private.pdb (and it sounds like
> something you'd not want to share anyway), I'd have to guess that it's a bug in
> XGREP, if another GREP was able to find it.  I don't know of any specific
> limitation that would make XGREP miss what GREP did not.

XGREP has a max line length of one kb or so (the same limit as UNIX System
V grep, which XGREP is modelled after), and that could be it, especially
since the PDB file format is a binary format (isn't it?).

Can XGREP find all the files if they reside in the same directory? this
might help determine whether it is a problem recursing the directory tree
or scanning the file.


Cheers,

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> GREP found it in two files. XGREP in just one, missing my
> private.pdb file (which was closed). The docs claim that XGREP
> is an extremely faithful UNIX clone, even down to some quirks.
> Is this a quirk? Is it a record length issue? Any ideas why it
> should fail to find the data?

I think it is a record length issue.  Most of the UNIX processing
utilities are intended to operate on text files that have some
reasonable record length for each line.  I'm guessing that your
.pdb file, clearly a binary-type file, is the culprit.  Also
guessing, the Borland version of grep either was designed to
operate on binary files to begin with, or was just compiled with
a longer record length and happens to work on your .pdb file.

-Chris

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If you have Ms Office, or one its parts (Word, Excell, etc),
you do have the VB DLL's in your system (according to my Sys
Adm.).

Domingo

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 5, 2000 5:32:59 PM GMT
Subject: Re: ÝACC¨ VIRUS info on "I LOVE YOU"
attachment!!!!!! BEWARE!!!!


fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> I may be wrong but: It sounded as if it ran a Visual Basic
Script.  I
> would imagine that almost any Windows' based Email system
might be able
> to run such a script if it or the attachment were opened
or
> double-clicked????

The host system would have to have The DLLs to run VB. Not
every system has it. If you develop in that language you
do, of course. Also, it comes with MSIE 5.0...

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When I try it like that from work, I get this error:

WatchGuard firewall: Request denied for
http://207.173.126.39:80: No URI found

I guess I'll have to email it to myself from home. :-(

Domingo

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Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> claims, WRT GDBWIN, >>Looks
like they closed
access. Maybe they want money for this?<<

Once, again, I followed the two or three step approach and
downloaded the
gile without a hitch.
YMMV.

..ed.

>> I went to http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html and
>clicked on the
>> GDBWIN 0.90 link to go to
>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/index.html
>> and searched for "173K Lh " clicked on the download link
and snagged the
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Hello Loo: I think you remember me. I had my HP200LX up for sale an
ready to send to
the person in France I forgot her name. I was just about to send to you
and you were to forward it to her, when it happen I KNOT IT OFF OF A
top shelf and rest is history
sold it to a LX'ER FOR PARTS.

I have a backup unit in excellent condition for sale.

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 LX'ERS:

     I am selling my HP200LX upgraded by Thaddeus Computing.
It has the following specs: 5mb DoubleSpeed. I will include: a/c adapter, manuals
Connectivity pack (complete), 4-pack rechargeable batt's with ABC/LX  battery monitoring
Software (batt's are rated 1350 MaH Nickel Metal Hydride From Thaddeus computing)
Also the  software INTELLISYNC complete package.

The unit has no scratches, the display no scratches;hinges are tight and smooth.
The unit is A1 condition (Thaddeus did an excellent upgrade)  Then why am I SELLING
The unit, well the FONTS are to small for years I BATTLE with the zoom programs
Still does not help. I want something like the Psion 3a or 3c you can zoom up to 4x
In any application. So I am returning back to my trusty old HP95LX.

My selling cost for the above is: $330.00
Thinks for reading my sad story.                     Bob E

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I want to use my HP200LX to display a map showing where I am and where I
want to go, with directions to get there.  Like the Hertz Neverlost system.
Ideally it would be connected to a GPS receiver.  Can this be done?  How?

Lionel  Silva mailto:lsilva@sj.znet.com Silva Solutions Corp.
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Stillsong - wrote:
>
> Greetings...
> I was searching through the net for a gameboy emulator for the 200 LX...
> All searches turned up to no avial....
> I found a link to the No Cash Gameboy emulator site...
> But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any help for an emulator running
> on the 200LX...
> Does anyone have an emulator that runs on the 200 LX?
> Any help would be appreciated...
> Thankyou
> Andre
>
I saw a Gameboy Emulator program listed for download on the SUPER
software site...  http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

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Does anybody on the list know much about the workings of flash memory cards?

I found that my new d-speed 2nd hand 200LX used up batteries at a rate of
2AA's/hour. It now seems that this is specifically related to an Epson 40Mb
ATA type II card (about 3 years old + well used). On Battlog (from the SUPER
site) there is a marked increase in the voltage on removing the card.

I also have an older 10Mb DoubleFlash+ card from Ace which seems to work ok
on the 200LX. When I tried the 40Mb card on my old 100LX (not speed or
memory upgraded) everything work without a hitch. (I have uncompressed both
these cards & it did not make any difference.)

Is there any reason why a flash card would draw more power when a flash
memory card is used on a speed upgraded machine? John suggested that there
is an inbuilt inverter circuit in the 200LX that provides 5v and/or 12v
supply to the card that might be the problem. Has anyone else had similar
problems?

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In message <sh9kqhmtqil69@corp.supernews.com>, "Craig Harris" <ccharris@fuse.net> wrote:
> I have an old 200LX that has developed several vertical lines on the
> display.  I've been told this means bad display contacts.
>
> Does anyone out there have any idea of the cost for HP to replace the
> display?
>
> Thanks,
> Craig.
>

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>Let's hope Nathalie's PC doesn't get infected or it'll take out most of the
>list when members get an "ILOVEYOU" note from her <g>.

 trying to lure me out of lurking, he? :))

well, you asked for it :)                      (fluff)

i guess i owe the list an explanation for my absence :)

just returned from Paris.... where i met the third Microsoft employee...

well, it all started with my teacher at school who told me not to take
second best...

which brings me to my desire to meet Bill, yes THE Bill. So, last year when
i was troubled by the "happy99" virus i complained to Microsoft about their
Outlook Express vulnerability, specifically addressing my request for an
explanation to Bill.
Lo and behold he wrote back, politely explaining that the e-mail virus came
from pirated software in China, and that it was not the fault of Microsoft.
He sounded like a politician - ask him a clear, precise, direct question and
you get an answer which has nothing to do with the question. Anyway, trying
to play his game, i jokingly asked if there were any rich bachelors in his
company who may be interested in a French lady doctor. I received 15
replies,..., and to make a long story short, i met 3 of them in Paris at a
hotel. The first one was in 'Training', and he kept teaching me how to do it
myself. The second one was in Sales, and he kept telling me how good it was
going to be in the next release, and the third one was in Tech Support, and
he kept saying, "Don't worry, it'll be up any minute now"....

instead of micro-soft i should maybe try another soft - any millionaires at
dasoft?

Nathalie (in cheeky mode)

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I use the GSM/PCS digital style cell phone (Erricson) with the PCMCIA
DC-12 interface to my palmtop (or laptop) computer.  Occassionally I
have the need to access the internet this way.

Just returned from a vacation in Florida.  We stayed at a campground,
where the cell phone reception was marginal.  I tried many times to
access my e-mail, using both my laptop and my palmtop using WWW/LX.
Always I would log on and things would proceed normally for a short
time, say 3 minutes, then everything would lock up.  I attributed this
to the flakey reception.

However, I was interested to note that I could establish a Compuserve
connection over the same cell phone to my wife's account without much
problems.  It was slow to be sure, but it worked everytime without a
hitch.

So, I get to wondering, what's the difference?  The connections I was
trying to establish were TCP/IP over PPP.  The question I have is this,
what protocol(s) does a standard Compuserve connection use?  At first
glance, it appears something more tolerant of weak physical layer links.

Also, those of you who use the Analog cell phone network with your
palmtops and other computers... do you experience similar problems?
I've been led to believe that the Analog network is much more extensive,
thus fewer areas of fringe reception.  But I have no experience with
the data performance over these type of cellphones.  When my PCS phone
is within range, I get pretty good and error-free performance.  Certainly
nothing ever locks up like I experienced at the campground.  Maybe I
should get one of these multi-mode phones like a cohort has - it can
access both the analog and digital networks.  (Then I would need a new
interface method, since the DC-12 would likely not work anymore).

Comments welcome.

-Chris

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<<<<I was searching through the net for a gameboy emulator for the
200 LX...
All searches turned up to no avial....
I found a link to the No Cash Gameboy emulator site...
But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any help for an emulator
running
on the 200LX...
Does anyone have an emulator that runs on the 200 LX?
Any help would be appreciated...>>>>

If you found a gameboy emulator that would run on the 200lx I doubt
that you would use it.  It would be very slow and the games wouldn't
be reasonably playable.

I think the only practical way to do this would be to write an
emulator for an 800 mHz Pentium system on the 200lx first, and then
run a gameboy emulator in that. :)

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<<<<As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
propagate unless you open an attachment. Even with Outlook, a virus
can't spread simply by reading the message. I don't think MS will
ever
make Outlook take actions based on the text of an e-mail, because
doing so would open up a security hole big enough to put them out of
business.>>>>

There was an informal discussion about this on ZDTV yesterday and
two of the people in the discussion said they had already,
experimentally, written Mellisa type viruses that could be activated
by appearing in Outlook Express's preview screen.  The group had the
expectation that it would happen for real before long.  They all
agreed that it wasn't difficult to do.

I don't know anything about this kind of scripting but I find it
very hard to understand why Microsoft left us so wide open.  It's
kind of like designing a car with elaborate locks on all doors but
none on the sunroof.  It seems very irresponsible.

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>>It's
>>kind of like designing a car with elaborate locks on all doors but
>>none on the sunroof.  It seems very irresponsible.


more like designing a car with all the options and having NO locks on it at
all, especially win95/98

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Date:         Sun, 7 May 2000 15:43:59 +0000
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We all know: ILOVEYOU does not infect the palmtop. But we are
not save. Let me outline a palmtop virus, which works much the
same way as ILOVEYOU. I'll explain it with POST/LX because this
is the email program I use/know. But similar should be possible
with the other palmtop email programs available.

NOTE: You should know me good enough to not assume that I will
ever write such a virus nor do I want to encourage anybody to
do so. I just want to show, that even our system is vulnerable.

How it could work:

I release an "improved" version of my fire animation programm
FIRE.COM and send it to someone who is using POST/LX. The
subject of the email would be "Improved FIRE.COM" and the body
only includes the attachment FIRE.COM.

The recipient of the email saves the attachment and runs it.
The famous fire animation is displayed and you think, nothing
else happend. But the "improved" FIRE.COM does the following
besides displaying the fire:

-it scans the C: drive for the file POST.CFG
-it opens POST.CFG and adds the two lines to the ÝSystem¨ section:
 PreOnline=3DC:\FIRE/INFECT
 PostOnline=3DC:\FIRE/HARM
-then is writes a hidden copy of itsself as C:\FIRE.COM

The next time you run POST/LX and press F5 to go online, the
following will happen.

-before going online, POST/LX calls C:\FIRE/INFECT. The command
 line switch /INFECT tells FIRE to append an already predefined
 email to MAIL.O. This email has as subject: Improved FIRE.COM
 and as attachment the copy of itsself: C:\FIRE.COM. But it
 also has the additional header line:
 Bcc:File:POST.ADR
 Maybe MAIL.O1 and MAIL.O2 have to be manipulated too.

-This email is sent out together with the one you wanted to send.
 and it's Bcc'ed to all entries of your POST.ADR.

-After returning from the online run, POST/LX calls C:\FIRE/HARM.
 The /HARM switch of FIRE can be anything from a simple output:
 "Demonstration of a POST/LX virus" up to a command like
 "Del C:\*.*/S", which would erase your whole C: drive.

That is, the virus attacks your drive after it spread itsself
to all your email addresses. If you don't use POST/LX, the
virus sleeps until you install POST/LX and run FIRE.COM for the
next time.

This is no criticism of POST/LX. If you think long enough, you
can crack every system which is connected to the world.

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>
> It is a shame HP can't find a suitable replacement for our
> pocket PCs. I had one of the WinCE devices and prompty sold it.
> It wasn't what I needed at all. This is progress?
>
>

The lament of most 200lx users. One of Pen Computing's editors paid us the
honor by referring to 200lx users as being "diehard". As others have noted,
lamented, there really isn't a good alternative for technical types (or even
financial types) who actually use the calculator or Lotus 1-2-3 quite a bit
(not to mention Derive, etc.) as an embedded keypad or pushing on the screen
with a stylus is no match for a real keypad for speed of entry. One contrast
between WinCE and 200lx is interesting, 200lx users need big flash memory
cards to carry large amounts of data/information (200+ megabytes of
dictionaries in my case). WinCE users need big memory cards for music (I
shouldn't talk too much as I have about 10 GB of MP3's on my Mac).

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<<

   >The new palmtops we have in stock are going VERY fast -- we are
   >down to 40. We sell them as 8 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Contact
   >wayne@thaddeus.com).

Are there any new palmtops left, pray tell?  And if there, is it still
possible to reserve one?>>

I believe they are all gone.  We might be holding a few back for 32 or 64
meg. Contact wayne@thaddeus.com.

By August we should have refurbished units in.  Soon I will post an
announcement that basically says for anyone willing to prepay, will give a
free new 10 Meg (Compaq labeled) type 2 PCMCIA card for each unit purchased.
Please don't call and ask about it until I post the announcement here and on
our web site, www.palmtoppaper.com.

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Date:         Sat, 6 May 2000 20:48:09 -0700
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              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available.
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Hi Scott--

Could you possibly reserve 2 20M Sandisks for me until week after next? I'm
out of town at the moment and won't be able to get a money order out to you
until the 15th. If that's too long, I'll understand. You'll no doubt have
more cards later on.

TIA,
Larry Mittell

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Hi Larry, I  just got your email and it's nice to meet you. Yes! I can hold (2)
20 Meg PCMCIA cards for you no problem. Just please email me back and let me
know when you are actually sending payment so I can be expecting it. I sell (2)
20 Meg cards for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.  Thanks alot!
Scott

Larry Mittell wrote:

> Hi Scott--
>
> Could you possibly reserve 2 20M Sandisks for me until week after next? I'm
> out of town at the moment and won't be able to get a money order out to you
> until the 15th. If that's too long, I'll understand. You'll no doubt have
> more cards later on.
>
> TIA,
> Larry Mittell

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Date:         Sun, 7 May 2000 15:38:32 -0400
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Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:
> I use outlook express and I have never seen it launch an
> exe yet, it does dynamicaly show jpg's gifs and htm pages
> to the best of my knowledge you cannot get a virus introduced
> via these type of files.

This worm is a VB Script. If you have VB installed (either
as a language or because you installed Internet Explorer 5,
then your email package has the "viewer" :) - i.e. whatever
will process the .VBS file.

> Your right about the windows laziness, I've slipped into
> the habit of auto-saving passwords in explorer.  It's funny
> I was reminiscing the other day of how I used to access
> the internet via a slip account and used to run Pine
> to get mail.  Surfing the web was more like casting your
> fishing line in to the ocean, Occasionally you would telnet
> but with modems at 2400 it was more like swimming
> between sites rather than surfing 8-)

I am no luddite, but I am not sure all that is new is also
better.

  Avi

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Longden Loo wrote:
> >***** I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that no one opens this worm - not
> >even with Notepad, you may inadvertently manage to get your
> >machine infected! Loss of data (and friends) will result!
> >*****
>
> Good advice.

So let me leave it here to re-emphasize the point :-)

> Let's hope Nathalie's PC doesn't get infected or it'll take out most of the list
> when members get an "ILOVEYOU" note from her <g>.

heheh.... :-) Hopefully she does not use outlook.

> >called my old customers (another business, not D&A) and
> >over half of them opened it because they were intrigued!
> >(more like idiots, if you ask me...)
>
> C'mon Avi, cut some slack for geeks with more heart
> than good sense!

AFTER they were warned to not open it? C'mon - there is a
limit to charity.

  Avi

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Jim Saklad wrote:
> I read MY mail using Eudora Pro on a Mac....

That's one good point. Outlook is affected.

> And Norton AntiVirus checks 'em all as they come in....

The worm appeared just three or four days ago! Make sure
your Norton AV is uptodate!

Many ISPs I know took to filtering messages like that out.
I am not sure I like my ISP to filter my email, but I am
torn ...

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> >Let's hope Nathalie's PC doesn't get infected or it'll take out most of the
> >list when members get an "ILOVEYOU" note from her <g>.
>
>  trying to lure me out of lurking, he? :))
>
> well, you asked for it :)                      (fluff)
>
> i guess i owe the list an explanation for my absence :)
>
> just returned from Paris.... where i met the third Microsoft employee...
>
> well, it all started with my teacher at school who told me not to take
> second best...
>
> which brings me to my desire to meet Bill, yes THE Bill. So, last year when
> i was troubled by the "happy99" virus i complained to Microsoft about their
> Outlook Express vulnerability, specifically addressing my request for an
> explanation to Bill.
> Lo and behold he wrote back, politely explaining that the e-mail virus came
> from pirated software in China, and that it was not the fault of Microsoft.
> He sounded like a politician - ask him a clear, precise, direct question and
> you get an answer which has nothing to do with the question. Anyway, trying
> to play his game, i jokingly asked if there were any rich bachelors in his
> company who may be interested in a French lady doctor. I received 15
> replies,..., and to make a long story short, i met 3 of them in Paris at a
> hotel. The first one was in 'Training', and he kept teaching me how to do it
> myself. The second one was in Sales, and he kept telling me how good it was
> going to be in the next release, and the third one was in Tech Support, and
> he kept saying, "Don't worry, it'll be up any minute now"....
>
> instead of micro-soft i should maybe try another soft - any millionaires at
> dasoft?
>
> Nathalie (in cheeky mode)

Cheeky indeed. First of all ROFL!!! Thanks for the laugh.
Then I was thinking how does one answer that? And decided
to just leave it be. This has a life of its own, and the
lady doctor can always breath new life into it, if
necessary ;)

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

ÝIt seems like the proper signature to add in this
particular case...¨

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On Sat, 6 May 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> But realistically, the zombies
> generation that Windows has reared will never let facts
> confuse their laziness. :-(

Avi,

I agree with you, and have often said the same. However, my
wife always chips in with the other side of the coin. She's
not technical, and points out that she and others non-techies
just don't know any better. Nobody takes the time to explain
why and how things work, and the alternatives available. To
most people out there, Outlook _is_ e-mail. I even had an air
force pilot ask me if I'd noticed how Microsoft had invented
the CC and BCC bits in e-mail and other e-mail programs had
copied them!

I'm tempted to say that these people should take more trouble
to learn about what they're using, but they often have nobody
to turn to. Microsoft takes the trouble to lure them with the
promise that they can learn to use e-mail if they use their
sugary software, but then we're never so ready to chip in with
"advanced" lessons.

The last time I had a go at my wife was when she wanted to
attach a .jpg to an e-mail. She didn't know that you could
that, but she did know that you could attach Word docs. What
did she do? She inserted a 80k .jpg in an empty word doc and
attached that. After encoding, the attachment was 9.5MB!
Thanks MS - slick coding, but my fault, because I'd never
explained about attachments in general, bandwidth and
attachment sizes etc. Valid point, I suppose.

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On Sun, 7 May 2000 15:43:59 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote:

Ýsnip interesting explanation of a Post/LX virus¨

>This is no criticism of POST/LX. If you think long enough, you
>can crack every system which is connected to the world.

But of course, the more different email systems we all use, the less
widespread will be any damage. The only reason things like Melissa and
ILOVEYOU spread so quickly is the overwhelming number of Outlook users.

--=20
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Chris Randle wrote:
> On Sat, 6 May 2000, A Meshar wrote:
>
> > But realistically, the zombies
> > generation that Windows has reared will never let facts
> > confuse their laziness. :-(
>
> Avi,
>
> I agree with you, and have often said the same. However, my
> wife always chips in with the other side of the coin. She's
> not technical, and points out that she and others non-techies
> just don't know any better.

Fortunately, I remember when we talked about your wife, and
what you said about her indicated to me she is intelligent,
smart, and able. It is possible to become more informed.

> Nobody takes the time to explain
> why and how things work, and the alternatives available.

Agree. No one told me either. I took the hard road, one of
curiosity and learning.

> To
> most people out there, Outlook _is_ e-mail. I even had an air
> force pilot ask me if I'd noticed how Microsoft had invented
> the CC and BCC bits in e-mail and other e-mail programs had
> copied them!

I rest my case.

I think that in the future (200-300+ years) historians will
look at our age and absolutely tear apart the MS
phenomenon. Don't get me wrong - there are some great
pieces of software that came from there... They will ack
the productivity gains because of the use of MS Software
and paradigms, but then they will tear them apart for the
same! The productivity gains are limited. Once you reach a
comfort level with the dooheekies in the windows paradigm,
you are frozen. There is no way to become _more_ expert and
reach for more productivity, unless it is by some edict of
a punk-programmer at MS who decides _for you_ what you
should do next and codes the program accordingly.

Then there is the dissociation of people from programs, and
machines. This makes it easy for many many more people to
use a computer - and for MS to seel millions more copies of
their software - but it also turns these people into morons
and idiots when it comes to doing anything that is NOT in
the help files. They are totally lost. They lose immense
amounts of time on futile advice, rebooting, retyping,
reinstalling and so on. It is also immense amounts of money
that they spend on such unneeded tasks.

I agree, they do not know better. To a large degree this is
no excuse - there are plenty of resources out there to
explain, to expose, to teach - people should kick
themselves in the butt a bit more.

And yes, MS is guilty, IMHO, by pushing people towards
"Don't ask - it is technical!". It disempowers people to
think of themselves as incapable and accept the hegemony of
MS - and from there the leap to "MS invented CC and BCC" is
very simple.

To me the worst part is when I see people _accepting_ bad
programs, bad tools, stupid ways to work - they accept
these as a given. This has less to do with MS than with the
cultural milieu we live in: People simply have no use for
their brains, they have no use for questioning, for
investigating, for being unhappy with something and wanting
to change it. We all parade in the "acceptable,
predermined" paths. Frankly, all these people worry me
because I read 1984 and that is exactly where they all go.
I also saw Soylent Green (if you do not know what these two
names mean, please investigate on the Internet!) I am
scared that _my_ future will be filled with zombies!

  Avi

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After reading this I'm glad I don't use Post/lx.
Stefan Peichl wrote:
>


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I have a 64+2 MB Doublespeed 200LX with an 80 MB Simpletech Flash
card, and normally do incremental backups to the card every 2-5 days,
and a complete backup every month or so. Up until today, I have had
exactly ZERO problems with the Flashcard.

I also have a 520 MB Kingston Type III drive that I can use with the
200 LX through the mediation of an Accurite DoubleSlot. I use this
only 2-3 times yearly for an archival backup.

Well, today I broke out the Doubleslot and made the archival backup
of the 64 MB C: drive (uneventfully).

I then tried to use the Doubleslot to back the Flash card up to the
Type III drive, but (as usual) was unable to get the system to see
both drives at the same time. (I did this successfully once, but have
been unable to duplicate that success. I would appreciate any
suggestions from Doubleslot users.)

I then moved to backup the 64 MB C: drive to the Flash card, only to
discover that most of the backups already ON the Flash were corrupt!
And trying to open directories from within Filer or from within XTree
produced Disk Error messages. Not only that, but it took 2 cycles of
Format - Chkdsk /f - Format - Chkdsk /f to produce what *seems* to be
a clean drive. (It now seems to be OK, in that I have backed C-64 to
the Flash and the files appear to be OK.)

Should I be suspicious of some particular cause here or just ascribe
this glitch to random chance, and be sure I keep backing the C: drive
up frequently?

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Date:         Sun, 7 May 2000 14:45:52 -1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM>
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From:         Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝACC¨ VIRUS info on "I LOVE YOU" attachment!!!!!
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Boy I really got bit by this one! At 5 in the morning of that fateful
day I checked my e-mail before going for my daily walk. The were 2
e-mails from my niece that said "LoveLetter", and I thought to myself
"How sweet, she remembered my birthday". So I clicked the attachment --
the rest is history. It have taken me until a few minutes ago to clear
up the mess. Lesson learned.....

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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Date:         Sun, 7 May 2000 20:24:03 -0500
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              Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
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From:         Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
Subject:      Re: We are vulnerable too
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Any email program that does attachments is vulnerable as long as the
recipient is willing to open it. I don't think Post/Lx is unique in that...

Terry


At 04:34 PM 05/07/2000 -0700, Patrick West wrote:
>After reading this I'm glad I don't use Post/lx.
>Stefan Peichl wrote:
>>
>
>
>--
>Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>  pgp 2.6.2 key
>fingerprint =  33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4  7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E
>41
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Date:         Sun, 7 May 2000 21:33:43 CDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE 200LX COMMUNITY!

On Sat, 6 May 2000 12:23:10 -0400 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
>***** I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that no one opens this worm - not
>even with Notepad, you may inadvertently manage to get your
>machine infected! Loss of data (and friends) will result!
>*****

Isn't that just a bit of over-reaction?  The virus came into our office
(via our software/security provider ironically) and I recognized the
*.vbs extension.  I simply renamed the file to text, commented out the
most offensive lines, and set as read only.  I added it to my little
collection of similar virii which I keep simply because I like such
things.

Reading through the script is actually an educational process and leaves
you scratching your head as to why any operating system in such heavy use
at government, commercial, and indivdual levels internationally is so
incredibly insecure.  Maybe a virus can be made to attack any OS;
joy-riders will continue highjacking MS products, however, because MS
makes it so stinking easy.

Larry Zimmerman


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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 00:18:12 -0700
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              Tim D Devine <marv@MINDSPRING.COM>
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              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: Compact Flash disks, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are
Available.


> I have  (2) 48 Meg Compact Flash name Brand Simple Technologies disk
Hi Scott,

    I will buy one 48 meg compact flash.

Tim

> available. These disks are in excellent condition and have hardly been
> used except to test a customer's new product at work. I am selling them
> for $75.00 a piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have
> (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am selling this disk
> for $120.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I still have (5) 20
> Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell  (1) 20 Meg
> disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20
> Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If are only interested in
> name brand Sandisks,, then I have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks available
> as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for
> shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus
> $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment
> to my address at:
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
> you know that you disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out the
> very next day unless I receive your payment on A Saturday and then they
> will go out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place
> them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are
> interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or
> (disks) for you. The response so far has been really great and the
> people I have worked with have been just terrific!   Thanks alot!
> Scott
>
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              "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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From:         "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Subject:      Fluff Re: Nathalie. Was: WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO THE
              200LX COMMUNITY
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Nathalie;

Has anyone told you lately what a gem you are, and what an asset you are
to our little group!?
Thank you for an absolutely hilarious little story!

I guess now you know what they mean by "micro"-"soft"! <G>

Thanks for some fun!

Richard

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Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>  wrote:

<snip>
well, you asked for it :)                      (fluff)
i guess i owe the list an explanation for my absence :)
just returned from Paris.... where i met the third Microsoft employee...

<snip>
 instead of micro-soft i should maybe try another soft - any
millionaires at
dasoft?

Nathalie (in cheeky mode)

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 08:22:38 +0200
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              JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
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From:         Jez Cunningham <JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR>
Subject:      Re: REX notetaker files?
Comments: To: martin@mobilpost.com

Item Subject: Re: REX notetaker files?
Shucks - I hoped you'd found a smart way.  I also managed it the hard way
but after a couple of notes I gave up (I had to export each entry in each
notetaker database, one-by-one, to text files, and import them, one-by-one,
into the Rex.  Forget it!  Maybe ok one-off, but each time you make a
change???)

Let's hope one of the great hackers on the list (with a brain the size of
the universe) comes up with a smarter way!

best regds
Jez

ps - Would your brother be Tore?  (No, I don't know him, but I found him in
the corporate directory!)

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     Subject: Re: REX notetaker files?
     Author:  martin at SHAR/dd.RFC-822=martin@mobilpost\.com
     Date:    06/05/2000 01:21

     You wrote:
     Martin - are you saying you transferred your .ndb files? Please can
     you explain how?
     ------------------
     Well I used the Hplx to create a file with all the info I wanted. Then
     I imported the textfile into the Truesync thing and then it was a
     _lot_ of cut and paste to have it "look" like I wanted.

     When I importered the file from the Hplx it was one big file..

     This is most certainly not the easiest way to do it, but the Easter
     bunny stole my brain, and I had limited time with the pcmcia port I
     had and did not find any better solution..

     (PS! My brother works in Alcatel and was down in France for weeks on a
     Alcatel course some time ago....)

     Regards
     --
     Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
     "This is probably the best button to press" -From the Hitchhikers
     Guide to the Galaxy

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 09:24:27 MEST
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><<<<As far as I know, there is no way for a Melissa-like virus to
>propagate unless you open an attachment.

>There was an informal discussion about this on ZDTV yesterday and
>two of the people in the discussion said they had already,
>experimentally, written Mellisa type viruses that could be activated
>by appearing in Outlook Express's preview screen.

The ILOVEYOU Virus does that too. I don't know the exact circumstances, but
the biggest chemical industry in switzerland was knocked down because the virus
appeared in the preview. It seems that the standard preferences were set wrong.
Another part of the same company used Lotus Notes and had no problems.

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Subject:      Re: We are vulnerable too
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> "Del C:\*.*/S", which would erase your whole C: drive.

The /s option doesn't work with the DEL command.
The trouble with Outlook is, that it is possible to execute an attachment immediately
without user action. And a lot of users have this option activated. That's why
it spreads as fast ...

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>The only reason things like Melissa and
>ILOVEYOU spread so quickly is the overwhelming number of Outlook users.

It is not the only reason. In software design there is always a contrary between
usability and security. MS decreased security to increase usability. But most
'usability' features of MS are not real features but harmful 'nice-to-have-toys'.


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Subject:      Re: We are vulnerable too
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>Any email program that does attachments is vulnerable as long as the
>recipient is willing to open it. I don't think Post/Lx is unique in that...


So any snail mail post box is vulnerable, because someone can send you a diskette,
you insert it into your computer and have a look on it ... and oops, there is
a boot sector virus on your harddisk.

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 09:59:41 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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From:         Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
Comments: To: Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Kawaratani ÝSMTP:bobk@GOL.COM¨
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 3:24 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
>
>
        ÝDK¨  >cards to carry large amounts of data/information (200+
megabytes of
        ÝDK¨  >dictionaries in my case). WinCE users need big memory cards
for music (I

Yes you will need to carry all that information in a large case. :-P

I've been using my 700LX for a little over a week now, and I'm making
regular backups, transfer my Outlook Calendar to the 700LX, using the Phone
database to great effect, using Laplink 5 for file transfers.

I am as home on this LX as I used to be on my 286 before the Windoze days.
I'm productive, there's almost a zero learning curve

A colleague of mine bought a 3Com Palm III, which does not run CE, but
there's a lot of support and programs available. Thing is, he bought it for
R1200 ($170) new. I paid R1000 ($143) for my 700LX NEW (well it was old
stock but they're UNUSED !!!).

(I think there are more available if anyone's interested - they can be
couriered from South Africa to the US or wherever).

I actually wanted the 200LX (esp the doublespeed one maybe with a
backlight), but at the price I could not resist it!

WAY TO GO LX!

Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 10:01:07 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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Hi

What do you suggest for backlighting the LX? Or do most of you use an
external light?

I saw the article on HPLX.NET about backlighting - do you have any personal
experience?

Please advise.

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 16:19:34 +0800
Reply-To:     JIMMY TAN <jimmytan@yeos.com.my>
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From:         JIMMY TAN <jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY>
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Hello people,

Out of curiousity, I sent a picture of my LX running NJCGA to the publisher and
enquired if it was the smallest Chinese WP in the world. Please find their
response appended below. That's another one up for the LX!!!
Appreciate some pointers on how to get it posted on S.U.P.E.R. for the benefit
of others.


Thanks.

Jimmy.
____________________Forward Header_____________________
Subject:    Re: Smallest Chinese Word Processor
Author: "NJStar Software" <support@njstar.com>
Date:       2000/05/08 9:18 AM

It looks like that you are using our freeware NJStar Chinese WP 2.0 (CGA
version). Yes, it is the smallest one in the world. And best of all, it is
free.

Regards,

Don Wang

At 08:52 PM 5/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
>     Dear Sir/Mdm.
>
>     Could you please confirm (for knowledge sake!) if this is the smallest
>     Chinese word processor in the world?
>
>     I've got it now, wished I had it in my college days!
>
>
>     Warm regards.
>
>     Jimmy.
>
>
>
>
>
>Attachment Converted: "e:\download\chinese.jpg"
>

+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
*  NEW!!!  NJStar WP4.31, NJStar Communicator 2.2 are now available. *
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
* NJStar Software Corp., P.O. Box 40,  Epping NSW 2121, Australia.   *
* Tel: +61-2-9889-2686    Web Site: http://www.njstar.com            *
*                                              *
* TO ORDER:                                        *
* Fax: +61-2-9889-2682    Web:    http://www.njstar.com/orders/      *
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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 10:46:53 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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I would like to do

200LX (ndb, adb, pdb) ---> Rex

Anyone?

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I had the same problem. The lines would only disappear with pressure on the
lower part of the screen. I opened up the screen but could not find any
obvious problems.  The local HP authorized dealer / repair shop asked me
about NZ$500 (+/-US$250+) to fix it (ie replace the screen). It turned out
to be much less hassles & cheaper to send it in to Thaddeus to fix for
US$125.
Regards,
Stefan

Date:    Sun, 7 May 2000 04:20:00 -0700
From:    "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: 200LX

In message <sh9kqhmtqil69@corp.supernews.com>, "Craig Harris"
<ccharris@fuse.net> wrote:
> I have an old 200LX that has developed several vertical lines on the
> display.  I've been told this means bad display contacts.
>
> Does anyone out there have any idea of the cost for HP to replace the
> display?
>
> Thanks,
> Craig.

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Patrick West wrote:

> After reading this I'm glad I don't use Post/lx.

Probably it's even simpler to write a virus for the email
program you use. But as I said, that was not my point.

We sometimes are a little bit arrogant in respect to Windows
users because we believe to run a better and saver system.

But we simply have not been targeted yet, because we are so
few and unimportant. My point was to show, that we could be
victims just as all the Outlook users. We are in no way better
off if somebody want's to hurt us.

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Subject:      Forwarded: HP200LX / Mobile Phone

Can somebody with the knowledge
assist this fellow LX user.


Thanks,
Qman...

In message <391683cf.939265@news.tesco.net>, nafrance@nospamtesco.net (Nick France) wrote:
> What's the best way to connect a mobile phone to my 200LX?
> Will IR comp. phones work with the 200LX's IR port?
> Is there any way I can make up a cable (for which phones?)
>
> Cheers
>
> Nick
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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 09:55:43 +0200
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              "Nigel L. Rotherham" <nigel.r@NETLINE.CO.ZA>
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Subject:      HP95LX: To change (upgrade) or not...
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Dear list

I recently came across this LX list and being as I have used my HP95LX for a
major part of my computing for many years (including the typing of this
posting!) I thought it would be advantageous to subscribe. Since subscribing I
have realised that I must be one of either the silent or minority 95 LX users as
the majority of postings relate to the 100/200 series.  This does not come as a
surprise but has prompted me to write to ask if there are many other 95 LX users
out there who like me wonder if it is time to 'upgrade'?
On the basis of "if the tool does the job why change?" I will continue to use my
trusty 95 but having already replaced my original unit by building another
'good' unit from two other 'non functional' ones, I am concerned that when my
current 95 LX (a 1 Mb model + two F1002A 128K ram cards, Wow!) needs replacing I
will be unable to find a working unit. Application wise I use the built in
programs plus the following:
ZIP; a small fast transfer utility (between palm and desktop).
NOTEPAD; for advanced text manipulation and file conversion.
CHEQUE-IN; for keeping track of my time and billing (I work for myself as a
consultant).
WEEKABK; For planning etc.
BUDDY95; an ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL program!
I have overcome the the lack of a 'database' application by using the
customisable PBK and linking 'memo' files (via macros and Buddy) to record extra
information etc.
I have an external stiffy drive (Drive95), a PCMCIA fax modem (but rarely used)
and numerous 'power adapters' at strategic locations (bed side, office, car
etc.) as the 95 external power requirements are  very flexible (unlike later
models that are polarity sensitive).  There are times when I think a faster
machine would be nice but overall I am more than happy with my set-up.
I have considered a CE or 'Palm Pilot' but the thought has lasted all but a few
minutes (seconds?) :-)
What comments / advice do the 100/200 users have for me? Should I try harder to
find a working 95? Are there any significant differences between to 100/200? In
the second-hand market is there much of a price difference? (guess this will be
different in SA but as a general guide?)
Hope I have not 'misused' the list and I look forward to any and all responses
but until then, KEEP SMILING!
Nigel R
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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 14:07:09 MEST
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Subject:      Siemens S25 / ISDN
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Someone mentioned the possibility to connect via the S25 in ISDN mode. Can you
please repeat the necessary settings?

 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 07:09:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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Can anyone recommend a brand/model PCMCIA serial port?  I'm in need of
one for my laptop computer, and I might as well get one that will work
on my 200LX as well, if possible.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 08:32:46 -0400
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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I have not used my 123 for a while, bu it seems to be behaving in a manner I
do not recall it doing previously and I am not sure if I inadvertantly
changed something in its behavior.

I recall that when I pressed a right or left arrow key, the cursor would
move to the next cell.  Now the left/right arrows move the entire screen
first, and only after the cell reaches the end of the screen does the arrow
move to the next cell.  Is that the way it is supposed to be?  I remember it
doing the reverse: first moving to the next cell and only when it reaches
the end of the screen does it move the screen on more column.  Do I remember
it wrong?

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 08:59:59 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> We all know: ILOVEYOU does not infect the palmtop. But we are
> not save. Let me outline a palmtop virus, which works much the
> same way as ILOVEYOU. I'll explain it with POST/LX because this
> is the email program I use/know. But similar should be possible
> with the other palmtop email programs available.

You point is well made.  I think that we HP200LX users are safe partially because
we are too small a group to attract the interest of virus-creators.  There are
many more people who have the ability to write a virus than there are people
who will actually do it.  Also, we are generally more computer literate and
more likely to be cautious about strange E-mail attachments and such.

Besides, we know enough about you to hunt you down if you did <eg>.

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 09:25:15 -0400
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Jeff,

It appears that you may have Scroll Lock turned on.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
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Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 8:33 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Normal 123 behavior?


I have not used my 123 for a while, bu it seems to be behaving in a manner I
do not recall it doing previously and I am not sure if I inadvertantly
changed something in its behavior.

I recall that when I pressed a right or left arrow key, the cursor would
move to the next cell.  Now the left/right arrows move the entire screen
first, and only after the cell reaches the end of the screen does the arrow
move to the next cell.  Is that the way it is supposed to be?  I remember it
doing the reverse: first moving to the next cell and only when it reaches
the end of the screen does it move the screen on more column.  Do I remember
it wrong?

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 09:41:39 -0400
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From:         Ian D Rutherford <iruther@ISTAR.CA>
Subject:      PIC graphics format by Lotus 123
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Corel Presentations (a component of Corel Office) will import Lotus 123 PIC
files and save them in a variety of graphics formats including all those
mentioned below.

Ian Rutherford



Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a LaTeX
> document.
> Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other format,
> especially PS, EPS of TIFF?

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon,  8 May 2000 09:35:06 -0400 (EDT)

02h41m43s ago ...
On Mon,  8 May 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> But we simply have not been targeted yet, because we are so
> few and unimportant. My point was to show, that we could be
> victims just as all the Outlook users. We are in no way better
> off if somebody want's to hurt us.

We're safer in at several ways.  Only executable DOS files could
infect the palmtop.  The palmtop is immune from boot-sector viruses
since it boots from ROM.  What we're NOT immune to is foolishness or
bad judgement.  Certainly we could be targeted, but infection would
require the cooperation of the recipient by opening an executable
attachment.  Yes it can happen, but not simply by opening the mail
itself.  I'm suspicious (OK...paranoid) about any unexpected executable
attachments.  Of course, if someone we trust is out to get us, then we
may be up that infamous creek...


Regards,

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 15:34:40 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 8 May 2000, Stephan G=F6ldi wrote:

> So any snail mail post box is vulnerable, because someone can send you
> a diskette, you insert it into your computer and have a look on it ...
> and oops, there is a boot sector virus on your harddisk.

Huh? surely the boot sector virus wouldn't infect your computer until you
booted with the infected disk (and why would you want to do that?). I've
"looked" at plenty of infected disks, and never been infected unless I
actually booted from the disk.


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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 10:30:25 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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From: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: Siemens S25 and ISDN
Date: 26 Mar 2000 09:19:02 -0800

As you might know, the Siemens S25 mobile phone is capable of
V.110 ISDN. If your GSM provider and your internet provider
both support V.110 ISDN, you can use this S25 feature. The
advantage over a modem connection is the immediate CONNECT.
This saves roughly 10-15 seconds during login. It's worth
a try. All you have to do is:

-Replace the init ATZ     command by ATB29
-Replace the dial ATDT... command by ATDI...

Stefan

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Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

> Posted with Ink Spot (for Windows CE) from DejaVu Software, Inc.
> Usenet wherever you are - http://www.dejavusoftware.com/


Do we have a infiltrator here on the list? :-)) I also saw your
interest in a Palm V in a newsgroup..what is going on? :-)

Regards

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:23:36 -0400, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

Ýsnipped some here and there¨

> > Nobody takes the time to explain
> > why and how things work, and the alternatives available.
>
> Agree. No one told me either. I took the hard road, one of
> curiosity and learning.

My experience is that people do not care about educating themself. You
can tell fellow newsreaders on how they should behave in newsgroups
(quoting, LARGE letters and so on). You tell them where they can find
info about this, but the next day they post messages that look like
shit..again and again.. They just don't care.

I have my share of people that mail me spam because they think it is
there right to do so..(forwarding hoaxes and things like that).. It is
some sort of "sheep mentality"

Maybe the "floating" bar on the bottom of the Win 9x start picture is
some sort of hypno sheep making zombie making device? :-)

snip snip

> there are plenty of resources out there to
> explain, to expose, to teach - people should kick
> themselves in the butt a bit more.

I agree..I kick them sometimes..but it is mostly just wastes my time
because they do not care..

> Frankly, all these people worry me
> because I read 1984 and that is exactly where they all go.

MMP=Microsoft Mind Police :-)

> scared that _my_ future will be filled with zombies!

I will still be here kicking and screaming :-)

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 10:31:00 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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> Item Subject: Re: REX notetaker files?

> Shucks - I hoped you'd found a smart way.

Somebody posted that they had a little Vb thingy to do a Hplx->
Outlook-> Rex 3 Sync. If he listens please mail the Vb program to me or
maybe post it to Super.

> I also managed it the hard way
> but after a couple of notes I gave up (I had to export each entry in each
> notetaker database, one-by-one, to text files, and import them, one-by-one,

Well I wrote all notes to one file and then imported it to the Rex3
software. But I had to do a lot cut and pasting. Most of my notes are
static info. But I would like a easier way to update the info.

> into the Rex.  Forget it!  Maybe ok one-off, but each time you make a
> change???)

Yep it is to hard.. It needs to be easyier if I am going to use it. But
Chris Lott is working on a Hplx/Rex3 sync isn't he?

> Let's hope one of the great hackers on the list (with a brain the size of
> the universe) comes up with a smarter way!

I think they already did.. Hmm I need a pcmcia port too since I do not
have the docking.

> ps - Would your brother be Tore?  (No, I don't know him, but I found him in
> the corporate directory!)

Yep thats my brother. He installs/runs phoneswitches/systems for
customers..Not sure what they are called. 4004 or something..

Regards

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Mon, 8 May 2000 03:53:00 -0700, "Quinton Jones, Jr."
<qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> Can somebody with the knowledge
> assist this fellow LX user.
>
> Thanks,
> Qman...

I have posted a "standard" reply in the newsgroup where you found this
message..

Please feel free to forward it to his emailadress if needed.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway


> In message <391683cf.939265@news.tesco.net>, nafrance@nospamtesco.net (Nick France) wrote:
> > What's the best way to connect a mobile phone to my 200LX?
> > Will IR comp. phones work with the 200LX's IR port?
> > Is there any way I can make up a cable (for which phones?)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Nick

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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         "Albert J. Kind" <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:32:09 -0400
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: lyle@solarhome.org (Lyle Rawlings)
Subject: HPLX-L Form Response


Subscriber Comments: I'm mainly looking for a translate utility for the
HP95LX phonebook to just about anything else (HP100LX, etc.)


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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 17:25:01 +0200
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>`....Now the left/right arrows move the entire screen
>first, and only after the cell reaches the end of the screen does the arrow
>move to the next cell.  Is that the way it is supposed to be?

You can toggle with Fn+SCRL (Backarrow).

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> But realistically, the zombies
> generation that Windows has reared will never let facts
> confuse their laziness. :-(

I don't think that's so realistic.  Windows hasn't taught people to
be lazy.  In the Dos days most poeple wouldn't/couldn't learn to do
anything useful on computers.  Windows made it possible for most of
them to do things in computers.

I think the people that jumped into computers early did so because
they had an aptitude for it.  Not because they were smarter or
brighter or harder working than others.

How many of you have a hard time programming your VCR?  How many
recent Windows users don't?

Just remember, there are three kinds of people in this world.  Those
that can count and those that can't.

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I've tried to get two different IrDA drivers to work with my 200LX
without any luck.  I want to print to HP LaserJet printers.. PHLJ6,
LJ2100, etc.  from built-in and/or DOS applications.  Does anyone have
any tips or advise on how to get this going?

Thanks,

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<<<And yes, MS is guilty, IMHO, by pushing people towards
"Don't ask - it is technical!". It disempowers people to
think of themselves as incapable and accept the hegemony of
MS - and from there the leap to "MS invented CC and BCC" is
very simple.>>>>

At the risk of repeating my last message, I think just the opposite
is true.  MS and windows got those people involved who used to say
they couldnt learn to use computers.

In the dos and pre-dos days I went into offices, installed their
computers and trained their staffs.  Typically about 20% were able
to learn anything useful at all, and far less than that could learn
to be very useful on the computer.  Of the other 80%, 2/3 refused to
even try.

I remember one poor woman who desperately wanted to learn to use a
word processor.  She tried and tried.  I spent hours working with
her.  So did several others.  We sent her to classes.  And she just
never got it.  But she could type 80wpm and take dictation in
shorthand with ease and post the daily business flawlessly.  But she
never learned to use the word processor.  And she never gave up.
She was finally told by her boss to use her time on other things.

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DEAR NIGEL,
I NOTICED YOU ARE FROM "ZA" , I LIVE IN LOS ANGELES NOW, RAISED IN CAPE
TOWN,SEA POINT.
I HAVE BOTH,A 100LX,LOOKS PRETTY MUCH SAME AS 95LX,MANY MORE FEATURES.
MORE USERS,MORE SUPPORT ETC.
IF YOU EVER READY TO SELL YOUR 95LX LET ME KNOW.
MY FACTORY WORKERS USE THEM ON THE SHOP FLOOR.
IT'S A ROUGH ENVIRONMENT AND FOR $50, I DONT MIND IF THEY LAST 6 MONTHS.
THEY BREAK SO EASILY I JUST REPLACE THE LAST BROKEN ONE.(THE HINGES HAVE A
LATENT DEFECT, THEY DEVELOP SMALL HAIRLINE CRACKS, AND EVENTUALLY OPEN UP,
BREAK AND CANNOT BE REPAIRED.....EXAMINE YOUR HINGES,YOU WILL NOTICE SMALL
FINE HAIRLINE CRACKS, AND THATS YOUR WARNING TO TRANSFER YOUR DATA, AND GET
THE 100LX, FORGET ABOUT TRYING TO GET HP TO REPAIR THE 95LX, THEY STOPPED
DOING IT, AND WHEN THEY USED TO IT COST ABOUT $120.
U.S. (X R6.33=$1.00) YOU DO THE MATH.
ANYWAY, HOPE THIS HELPS YOU OUT, THE MARKET FOR USED ELECTRONICS IS
"CHARITY" THESE DAYS.
SINCERELY,
GOOD LUCK AND TAKE CARE.
ANDREW
GARRON@HOTMAIL.COM















>From: "Nigel L. Rotherham" <nigel.r@NETLINE.CO.ZA>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              "Nigel
>L. Rotherham" <nigel.r@NETLINE.CO.ZA>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: HP95LX: To change (upgrade) or not...
>Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:55:43 +0200
>
>Dear list
>
>I recently came across this LX list and being as I have used my HP95LX for
>a
>major part of my computing for many years (including the typing of this
>posting!) I thought it would be advantageous to subscribe. Since
>subscribing I
>have realised that I must be one of either the silent or minority 95 LX
>users as
>the majority of postings relate to the 100/200 series.  This does not come
>as a
>surprise but has prompted me to write to ask if there are many other 95 LX
>users
>out there who like me wonder if it is time to 'upgrade'?
>On the basis of "if the tool does the job why change?" I will continue to
>use my
>trusty 95 but having already replaced my original unit by building another
>'good' unit from two other 'non functional' ones, I am concerned that when
>my
>current 95 LX (a 1 Mb model + two F1002A 128K ram cards, Wow!) needs
>replacing I
>will be unable to find a working unit. Application wise I use the built in
>programs plus the following:
>ZIP; a small fast transfer utility (between palm and desktop).
>NOTEPAD; for advanced text manipulation and file conversion.
>CHEQUE-IN; for keeping track of my time and billing (I work for myself as a
>consultant).
>WEEKABK; For planning etc.
>BUDDY95; an ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL program!
>I have overcome the the lack of a 'database' application by using the
>customisable PBK and linking 'memo' files (via macros and Buddy) to record
>extra
>information etc.
>I have an external stiffy drive (Drive95), a PCMCIA fax modem (but rarely
>used)
>and numerous 'power adapters' at strategic locations (bed side, office, car
>etc.) as the 95 external power requirements are  very flexible (unlike
>later
>models that are polarity sensitive).  There are times when I think a faster
>machine would be nice but overall I am more than happy with my set-up.
>I have considered a CE or 'Palm Pilot' but the thought has lasted all but a
>few
>minutes (seconds?) :-)
>What comments / advice do the 100/200 users have for me? Should I try
>harder to
>find a working 95? Are there any significant differences between to
>100/200? In
>the second-hand market is there much of a price difference? (guess this
>will be
>different in SA but as a general guide?)
>Hope I have not 'misused' the list and I look forward to any and all
>responses
>but until then, KEEP SMILING!
>Nigel R
><< nigel.r.vcf >>

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For those, really concerned about possible virus infection,
I see two ways out:

-Make a complete backup of your machine and keep it outside
 of the palmtop. (A backup on drive A: could be deleted as
 well through a virus)

-Use a second (minimal) palmtop for email/internet only and
 never connect your main machine to the net. Transfer your
 downloads with PC cards from the email machine to the main
 machine.

Both solutions are not very comfortable, but save.

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On Sat, 6 May 2000, Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:

> >Since we're on this subject, has anyone else tried out their GPS now that
> >SA has been terminated?
>
> I tried yesterday: Taking 106 measurements at the same
> particular position the error is reduced to one third of the
> value before SA was switched off. How does that compare to
> your results ?

I don't have any results that quantitative. In the past I had used the
blob method to find an accurate location (record a track for as long as
you can, and your position is probably close to the center). The blob I
got was about 1cm in diameter. Now, the blob is covered by the locater dot
on the GPS screen. My estimated error after a few minutes is about 4-6m on
my Garmin 12. Before, over 30m was typical.

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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I have a 512K unit lying around. I have the original box with the
connectivity kit on 5/25" disks. I've never bothered to sell because I
caouln't get much money for it. It may be worth $30-40 at best. The hinge
and clasp are pretty loose and it needs a backup battery. Other than that
it's in pretty good shape. If you go on Ebay you'll find them on sale there
quite often. It seems that these units jump around a lot and a used unit may
have had 5 or 6 owners.

lesee...
Here ya go :

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320911348
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=325332904
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=327359773

If you ever need a replacement I'm sure that they will still be floating
around some auction site somewhere. Also go to this site if you want a good
selection of 95lx free/shareware.

http://www.palmtop.net/super95.html



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nigel L. Rotherham Ýmailto:nigel.r@NETLINE.CO.ZA¨
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 3:56 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ HP95LX: To change (upgrade) or not...
>
>
>Dear list
>
>I recently came across this LX list and being as I have used
>my HP95LX for a
>major part of my computing for many years (including the typing of this
>posting!) I thought it would be advantageous to subscribe.
>Since subscribing I
>have realised that I must be one of either the silent or
>minority 95 LX users as

snip

Should I try harder to
>find a working 95? Are there any significant differences
>between to 100/200? In
>the second-hand market is there much of a price difference?
>(guess this will be
>different in SA but as a general guide?)
>Hope I have not 'misused' the list and I look forward to any
>and all responses
>but until then, KEEP SMILING!
>Nigel R
>

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 13:29:56 -0400
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Actually, I've use the no$gmb gameboy emulator that runs okay. The 'action'
games don't run well but you can run some of the role playing type games
like ultima and final fantasy. BTW, I use a  2x speed lx.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨
>Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 9:08 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Gameboy emulator
>
>
><<<<I was searching through the net for a gameboy emulator for the
>200 LX...
>All searches turned up to no avial....
>I found a link to the No Cash Gameboy emulator site...
>But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any help for an emulator
>running
>on the 200LX...
>Does anyone have an emulator that runs on the 200 LX?
>Any help would be appreciated...>>>>
>
>If you found a gameboy emulator that would run on the 200lx I doubt
>that you would use it.  It would be very slow and the games wouldn't
>be reasonably playable.
>
>I think the only practical way to do this would be to write an
>emulator for an 800 mHz Pentium system on the 200lx first, and then
>run a gameboy emulator in that. :)
>
>Barry
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On Mon, 8 May 2000, Ed Padin wrote:

> Actually, I've use the no$gmb gameboy emulator that runs okay. The 'action'
> games don't run well but you can run some of the role playing type games
> like ultima and final fantasy. BTW, I use a  2x speed lx.
>
>
try and find an older release made just for the XT/286 it has alot of
extras that were made for the 32bit processors left out and runs smoother
on a 2xLX it seems

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Hi Stefan,

sounds very interesting - I never considered this to be possible. But I
think you're right - it would be possible.

On Sun, 7 May 2000 15:43:59 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> We all know: ILOVEYOU does not infect the palmtop. But we are
> not save. Let me outline a palmtop virus, which works much the
> same way as ILOVEYOU. I'll explain it with POST/LX because this
> is the email program I use/know. But similar should be possible
> with the other palmtop email programs available.
> Ý...¨

But I really don't think that someone would be interested in writing a
virus that infects only 0.005% of all computers all over the world
(amount is estimated, of course ;-) - but it has to be a computer on
which Post/LX is installed. Avi - how much licenses did you sell? :-) )
If I wrote a virus, It would only make me happy if the results would be
readable in newspapers and if this virus got really popular. Or if it
reached a very special goal. Who could be interested in destroying
special data on our palmtops?

Sure, YOU could write such a virus, or Avi or Andreas could, maybe half
of the participants of this list could; but who wants to do it?

We all have to be careful. But with our palmtops we are 100 times safer
than all windows users!

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 15:45:45 -0400
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sat, 6 May 2000 12:23:10 -0400 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> >***** I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that no one opens this worm - not
> >even with Notepad, you may inadvertently manage to get your
> >machine infected! Loss of data (and friends) will result!
> >*****
>
> Isn't that just a bit of over-reaction?

Not at all. I am sure several people did NOT read the part
about "palmtop" and could make the mistake and do it on the
desktop. It is very possible that some of them also have
MSIE 5 and Outlook. I rather warn them A LOT and STRONGLY
and be guilty of some overreaction than hear reports that
someone's desktop was infected.

> The virus came into our office (via our software/security
> provider ironically) and I recognized the *.vbs extension.
> I simply renamed the file to text, commented out the most
> offensive lines, and set as read only.  I added it to my
> little collection of similar virii which I keep simply
> because I like such things.

I think you are among a small group who knows what to do,
and _notices_ things like this and knows what they mean.

> Reading through the script is actually an educational
> process and leaves you scratching your head as to why any
> operating system in such heavy use at government,
> commercial, and indivdual levels internationally is so
> incredibly insecure.  Maybe a virus can be made to attack
> any OS; joy-riders will continue highjacking MS products,
> however, because MS makes it so stinking easy.

I agree. I printed the file and worked through it my self,
and then with several friends and two clients. It is an
amazing piece of programming to learn from.

But overreact? Nah... I think the warnings are very timely
and very necessary, maybe not for you, though.

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The biggest difference in your scenario is that MS in its infinite
stupidity has made it very easy for ANYONE to write a virus. it
used to be that you at least had to be able to write a relatively good
program, even for a trojan. Now all you have to be is write a few
lines of visual basic script, and that is why we are seeing such a
proliferation of email trojans like melissa and this one. Any idiot
with a visual basic bok can write a functional virus in a few minutes
and combined with outlook's brain dead handling of attachments it
spreads very quickly. Personally none of my computers use IE or
outlook and none have had any problems with these latest viruii. So
when you read the paper about all the problems caused by this
virus be sure and thank old bill gates since he is the major cause,
not some idiot that wrote them.

Pete

On 7 May 2000, at 15:43, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> We all know: ILOVEYOU does not infect the palmtop. But we are
> not save. Let me outline a palmtop virus, which works much the
> same way as ILOVEYOU. I'll explain it with POST/LX because this
> is the email program I use/know. But similar should be possible
> with the other palmtop email programs available.
>
> NOTE: You should know me good enough to not assume that I will
> ever write such a virus nor do I want to encourage anybody to
> do so. I just want to show, that even our system is vulnerable.
>
> How it could work:
>
> I release an "improved" version of my fire animation programm
> FIRE.COM and send it to someone who is using POST/LX. The
> subject of the email would be "Improved FIRE.COM" and the body
> only includes the attachment FIRE.COM.
>
> The recipient of the email saves the attachment and runs it.
> The famous fire animation is displayed and you think, nothing
> else happend. But the "improved" FIRE.COM does the following
> besides displaying the fire:
>
> -it scans the C: drive for the file POST.CFG
> -it opens POST.CFG and adds the two lines to the ÝSystem¨ section:
>  PreOnline=C:\FIRE/INFECT
>  PostOnline=C:\FIRE/HARM
> -then is writes a hidden copy of itsself as C:\FIRE.COM
>
> The next time you run POST/LX and press F5 to go online, the
> following will happen.
>
> -before going online, POST/LX calls C:\FIRE/INFECT. The command
>  line switch /INFECT tells FIRE to append an already predefined
>  email to MAIL.O. This email has as subject: Improved FIRE.COM
>  and as attachment the copy of itsself: C:\FIRE.COM. But it
>  also has the additional header line:
>  Bcc:File:POST.ADR
>  Maybe MAIL.O1 and MAIL.O2 have to be manipulated too.
>
> -This email is sent out together with the one you wanted to send.
>  and it's Bcc'ed to all entries of your POST.ADR.
>
> -After returning from the online run, POST/LX calls C:\FIRE/HARM.
>  The /HARM switch of FIRE can be anything from a simple output:
>  "Demonstration of a POST/LX virus" up to a command like
>  "Del C:\*.*/S", which would erase your whole C: drive.
>
> That is, the virus attacks your drive after it spread itsself
> to all your email addresses. If you don't use POST/LX, the
> virus sleeps until you install POST/LX and run FIRE.COM for the
> next time.
>
> This is no criticism of POST/LX. If you think long enough, you
> can crack every system which is connected to the world.
>
> Stefan
>
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>>
If I wrote a virus, It would only make me happy if the results would be
readable in newspapers and if this virus got really popular. Or if it
reached a very special goal. Who could be interested in destroying
special data on our palmtops?
<<

A former WinCE user who was cast out of the list in flames who swore to get
revenge.

A couple of programming classes and maybe the SDK will give them all the tools
they need.  Maybe create a nice non-viral app that loads encrypted code into the
"memory eddy" that persists thru boots (ie, where ABC/LX keeps track of
registration).  On a target date or trigger, maybe when the code has become
widespread, the code loads the encrypted "fuse" onto itself, and is now armed
with data destroying capabilities.

Not that far-fetched, actually.  And he/she would just have to read the list to
get the satisfaction of hearing the cries of anguish.  Stranger things in life
have happened with less provocation.

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>
> Date:    Mon, 8 May 2000 09:33:16 MEST
> From:    Stephan G=?ISO-8859-1?B?9mxkaQ==?= <webdesign@GOELDI.COM>
> Subject: Re: We are vulnerable too
>
> >The only reason things like Melissa and
> >ILOVEYOU spread so quickly is the overwhelming number of Outlook
users.
>
> It is not the only reason. In software design there is always a
contrary between
> usability and security. MS decreased security to increase usability.
But most
> 'usability' features of MS are not real features but harmful
'nice-to-have-toys'.
>
>
While everyone's blaming MS for Outlook's vulnerabilities - remember  -
any system running Windows Scripting Host (put in in response to all the
people who missed DOS Batch files) and a MAPI (Mail API)-aware e-mail
program is vulnerable. My wife's office, using GroupWise (Novell isn't
exactly a Microsoft syncophant) was hit when two of the staff opened
their ILOVEYOU's. The office still wouldn't have been impacted if their
mail program didn't allow SMTP messages from other applications. That's
the real root of how the application was able to spread so rapidly. It
could access *any* MAPI-aware e-mail program.  If the developer were any
more skilled, the *worm* could have been an exe or a Zip install package.
The irony is that everyone is focussing on the wrong area of
vulnerability. MS mail products weren't the only ones vulnerable. The
feature that made this particular assault possible was added in response
to *power user* needs (WSH). And MAPI has been around since Win3.x days.

>
> Date:    Mon, 8 May 2000 11:10:30 -0400
> From:    Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
> Subject: Re: We are vulnerable too
>
> Mon,  8 May 2000 09:35:06 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 02h41m43s ago ...
> On Mon,  8 May 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> > But we simply have not been targeted yet, because we are so
> > few and unimportant. My point was to show, that we could be
> > victims just as all the Outlook users. We are in no way better
> > off if somebody want's to hurt us.
>
> We're safer in at several ways.  Only executable DOS files could
> infect the palmtop.  The palmtop is immune from boot-sector viruses
> since it boots from ROM.  What we're NOT immune to is foolishness or

I wouldn't bet on that - maybe to the more obvious effects, but since
most boot-sector virii only put a loader in the boot sector (no room for
more) and monkey around with the FAT and directory structure to conceal
the payload, we could get quite thoroughly hosed were we to inadvertently
load one. BTW - it's not true that you can *only* get a boot-sector virus
from *booting* an infected disk. That's merely the most common route, but
corrupted executables can also zap one into your boot sector.

> bad judgement.  Certainly we could be targeted, but infection would
> require the cooperation of the recipient by opening an executable
> attachment.  Yes it can happen, but not simply by opening the mail
> itself.  I'm suspicious (OK...paranoid) about any unexpected executable
> attachments.  Of course, if someone we trust is out to get us, then we
> may be up that infamous creek...
>
>
And don't forget macro-worms. It's possible to bundle a batch or exe
file, keyboard stuffer, and HP keyboard macro which would zap the box
nicely while being innocuous to other machines.

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw!
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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 15:22:03 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Did you happen to read the NYTimes article for today (May 8, 2000)
regarding the worm/virus and Ford?  As the Ford IT guys looked over the
security analysis provided them by McAfee, Ford seemed to realize that
the virus used similar methods and tools as a Ford utility used to update
their machines world-wide.  Seems it is a pretty decent piece of work.

Also, I've heard news that the primary suspect may be a woman.  I think
that is the best news of the whole event.  I take it to mean that women
have finally entered the male-dominated computer world in sufficient
numbers at sufficient skill levels to create world-upsetting virii.  Way
to go geek-girls!!  Ya gotta love a woman who knows her TCP/IP.

Larry Zimmerman

On Mon, 8 May 2000 15:45:45 -0400 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
>> Reading through the script is actually an educational
>> process and leaves you scratching your head as to why any
>> operating system in such heavy use at government,
>> commercial, and indivdual levels internationally is so
>> incredibly insecure.  Maybe a virus can be made to attack
>> any OS; joy-riders will continue highjacking MS products,
>> however, because MS makes it so stinking easy.
>
>I agree. I printed the file and worked through it my self,
>and then with several friends and two clients. It is an
>amazing piece of programming to learn from.

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On Mon, 8 May 2000 08:53:00 -0700 Doug Anderson
<deanderson@OAKLANDNET.COM> writes:
> I've tried to get two different IrDA drivers to work with my 200LX
> without any luck.  I want to print to HP LaserJet printers.. PHLJ6,
> LJ2100, etc.  from built-in and/or DOS applications.  Does anyone
> have any tips or advise on how to get this going?
>

That is usually caused by not turning power to the serial port back on
in DOS (remember when you turned it off to save battery life?).  :-)

Also,check your printer settings from Sysmgr (it has to print to IR, and
it has to match the printer you are using).

Ocassionally I have found that I cannot print from built-in applications
repeatedly.   LXPRO from SUPER usually fixes that.

For printing from DOS applications, have your program print to com1
(or use the MODE command to redirect).  LXPRO should help with that
as well.

I hope that helps.

Domingo

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Avi,
I not only agree but for a long time have been saying the same
things to anyone who will listen. Thanks for the eloquent
expression of these ideas.

> To me the worst part is when I see people _accepting_ bad
> programs, bad tools, stupid ways to work - they accept
> these as a given. This has less to do with MS than with the
> cultural milieu we live in: People simply have no use for
> their brains, they have no use for questioning, for
> investigating, for being unhappy with something and wanting
> to change it.

I remember when Bill was asked if he would consider buying a
media company--this was after AOL announced they wanted to buy
Time-Warner.  He said, "No, we're going to stick to what we do
best, and that's writing software."

The fact is, few companies write worse software (it's dumb,
fat and ugly), but hardly any of their consumers realize this.
I doubt very much if Bill realizes this.

-George

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Mon,  8 May 2000 16:46:12 -0400 (EDT)

32m41s ago ...
On Mon,  8 May 2000, Peter W. Borders wrote:

<lots snipped...>

> MS in its infinite
> stupidity has made it very easy for ANYONE to write a virus.

> Any idiot
> with a visual basic bok can write a functional virus in a few minutes
> and combined with outlook's brain dead handling of attachments it
> spreads very quickly.

> when you read the paper about all the problems caused by this
> virus be sure and thank old bill gates since he is the major cause,
> not some idiot that wrote them.

Exactly.  Our local media do much gnashing of teeth and wringing of
hands over these new virii.  Features on security propose fairly
draconian measures by ISPs to filter out offending material.  Not one
single mention of the REAL problem - the Demon Lords of Redmond!

BTW - Pete, what is your choice of secure email and browser software
for WindHose?


Later,

Peniel
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Is there any such service web site? I am looking for free service.
The SMS has 160 character limit, but it still helps me to be notified
with the first few lines...

Thank you in advance!

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 I want to use my HP200LX to display a map showing where I am and where I
 want to go, with directions to get there.  Like the Hertz Neverlost system.
 Ideally it would be connected to a GPS receiver.  Can this be done?  How?

 Lionel Silva mailto:lsilva@sj.znet.com Silva Solutions Corp.

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Laust Brock-Nannestad  wrote:
>>I've "looked" at plenty of infected disks, and never been infected unless
I actually booted from the disk.<<

You have been extremely fortunate.
Before installing Dr. Solomon and F-Prot on our classroom computers, I spent
many days repairing boot sector viruses caused by students bringing their
disks from home and merely opening a file or doing a DIR A:

.ed.

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Ed, I haven't kept up on viral technology,   but how does a computer get a virus
loaded using "DIR A:"?

I could see the other case "opening a file" .. depending on what you mean by
"open".  But DIR A: usually means you're executing from C:, so there shouldn't
be any reason why the command processor needs to get anything from A except the
directory ... unless there's a virus that transmits thru subdirectory filenames.

Or maybe the student just TOLD you they just did a DIR A (when actually they
tried to run the HOTGIRLS.EXE program <g>).

- Longden





Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> on 05/08/2000 02:35:09 PM

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Laust Brock-Nannestad  wrote:
>>I've "looked" at plenty of infected disks, and never been infected unless
I actually booted from the disk.<<

You have been extremely fortunate.
Before installing Dr. Solomon and F-Prot on our classroom computers, I spent
many days repairing boot sector viruses caused by students bringing their
disks from home and merely opening a file or doing a DIR A:

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Over the last few months, I have had problems switching environments in
Software Carousel and having the screen updated correctly.

The screen is either blank or has horizontal lines.  The software is still
running.  Any clues what is going on?

Around the time it started I started using SC7 and a utility to set
resolution called setit.  I have tried every combination of setit parameters
and cannot seem to eliminate the problem.  It does not happen every time so
it is slippery to track down.

Any clues?



Leland Hambley
Leland@Fireclick.com

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I think your users are being a little dishonest if they are saying "All
I did was do a dir A: ...". If a floppy has a boot sector virus the
ONLY way it can get on the hard drive is to attempt to BOOT off of
the disk, usually caused by putting the disk in before turning on the
machine. If you have a virus that infects executables and/or  also
modifies the boot sector then you can get it via booting or
executing the infected program. Either way you WILL NOT get a
virus from doing a DIR on ANY disk. I have been running a multi-lab
computer complex for over 12 years so I am quite familiar with both
viruii and computer illeterate students and faculty.

Pete

PS. Also, the ONLY type of virus you can get by OPENING a file
(a data file) is a macro virus that is generally dependent of MS
Office products, again thanks to Bill and the idiots at MS.

On 8 May 2000, at 16:35, Ed Keefe wrote:

> Laust Brock-Nannestad  wrote:
> >>I've "looked" at plenty of infected disks, and never been infected
> >>unless
> I actually booted from the disk.<<
>
> You have been extremely fortunate.
> Before installing Dr. Solomon and F-Prot on our classroom computers, I
> spent many days repairing boot sector viruses caused by students
> bringing their disks from home and merely opening a file or doing a
> DIR A:
>
> .ed.
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On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> I read that Caldera's WebSpyder browser should be able to work on 200LX-
> at least the version which was available some time 1997- 98. I have
> searched and no result. The current version seams to have been removed
> from Caldera's web site.

A while back, Caldera split into two companies; the one carrying DR-DOS and
its associated products (WebSpyder, NetWare for DOS, etc.) became Caldera
Thin Clients (now Lineo).  I believe Lineo has also changed the name of
WebSpyder, but as far as I know it's still in production.  You could look
around on www.lineo.com to see, I'm sure.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
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Found a COM port PCMCIA card that I'm considering buying.

http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=47&sku=232PCC

The more I think about it, why would a COM port PCMCIA card look
any different to the HP200LX than would a MODEM?  To the computer,
they both present a serial interface.  Could anyone with more
PCMCIA experience please comment?  This particular unit draws
25mA when active, so I think it is reasonably power-wise.

-Chris

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Actually there is a Gameboy emulator which is supposed to work in the 200lx.
This is what I found in S.U.P.E.R.


Iqigo Martinez de Azagra

CLOSED
No$gmb seems to be published by somebody called "utopia" now, so this
webpage doesn't appear to be of very much use anymore. Please inform me if
anybody knows the identity (real name, and address) of this so-called
"utopia" group or person.



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Commercial developers whom are interested in registering the no$gmb color
gameboy debugger (registration fee for commercial use = $750 US), please
contact me at:
Martin Korth
Ringheide 44
21149 Hamburg
Germany



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For anybody else, I haven't decided yet if I continue to release
freeware/shareware updates in future. If I decide to do so, then it will be
probably limited as follows:
If anybody releases a crack (or spreads a registration key) for version 2.5,
then the next update will be delayed by four months. Ie. assume version 2.6
would be be finished in October 2000, so it wouldn't be made public (for
non-commercial users) until February 2001.

If somebody cracks that version either, then the next updates would be
delayed by another 4 months, giving a total delay of 8 months for ALL future
updates, and so on. So the best way to get many friends and to turn no$gmb
into a project for commercial users only is to release contingous cracks.

I know that that could be treated as some kind of not very nice collective
punishment, but please understand that it is very frustating to see cracks,
especially as I kept no$gmb available as low-prize shareware, so that
everybody should have been able to afford it.

I am sure that crackers with at least basic programming knowledge can break
the copy protection in a few hours, but before you enjoy that good feeling,
keep in mind that it took me several years to write the emulator, not to
mention many further years of learning, research, and work on other programs
that made it all possible.

So if you want to show people how cool you are: better write your own
emulator instead of making (or spreading) cracks. With the hardware
information that is available nowadays it'll be probably much less work than
it's been for me, and then you can see if you are really that brave and kewl
- and I won't be too sure if you would publish your emulator as freeware
after you have invested the first 1000 hours of work into it.

All for now.

A final note: when you search for an email address, there is none! And
please do not send mails to the n@work people. That are the guys whom allow
me to use their server, but they are in no way related to no$gmb.



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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 20:14:00 -0400
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   >turning on the machine. If you have a virus that infects
   >executables and/or  also modifies the boot sector then you can get
   >it via booting or executing the infected program. Either way you
   >WILL NOT get a virus from doing a DIR on ANY disk.
Message-Id: <20000509001357.QGOP3646.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.53¨>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:14:02 +0000

Hypothetically speaking I think you can load a virus using DIR on a disk,
tho more technically it'd be via command.com

Probably an improbable case, but if you ran a command whose execution
requires the reloading of command.com after its completion... a doctored
command.com could conceivably carry a modified DIR that infects any disk
it's executed on. This assumes the user doesn't have the COMSPEC/SHELL
thing set in config.sys... and this is only for DOS.

One way of doing this might be to doctor a genuinely good software disk,
adding the viral code and the trojan command.com, and setting up the batch
file for the app so that it switches to drive A before execution.  Users
looking at the batch file may not see any real clues as to the intent.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 9 May 2000 02:16:24 +0200
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On Mon, 8 May 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> For those, really concerned about possible virus infection,
> I see two ways out:

> -Make a complete backup of your machine and keep it outside
>  of the palmtop. (A backup on drive A: could be deleted as
>  well through a virus)

This is always a good thing, but has nothing to do with virus protection
in itself, just with recovery.

> -Use a second (minimal) palmtop for email/internet only and
>  never connect your main machine to the net. Transfer your
>  downloads with PC cards from the email machine to the main
>  machine.

And how is this better than, say, running an e-mail/internet suite
(post/lx) directly on the palmtop? from your description of how to
implement a virus in ten easy steps (NOTE: joke! ;-), you have to run a
program to initiate the virus (obviously), and you can still do that with
your second solution, by transferrring the program to the safe palmtop and
then running it. Of course, a nice benefit from the second solution is
that the virus will most likely spred less, because the second (infected)
palmtop is not connected to the net directly, but this is not a benefit to
yourself, really, just to other potential "infectees"...

I see three solutions:

1. Keep the palmtop isolated, never transfer anything to the palmtop. 100%
safe, but obviously limits the palmtop's potential.

2. Never transfer programs (executables) to the palmtop, only text
files. A bit better, but...

3. Use common sense when running foreign programs and don't use an e-mail
program that automatically runs programs or scripts for you (shouldn't
really concern palmtop users I imagine). Granted not as safe as either one
or two, but it has certainly worked for me in many years, and I'm
confident it will for many years to come.


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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 20:34:54 -0400
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In the absence of COMSPEC the command.com file will be loaded
from the device that was used to boot the computer. In later
versions (5.0 and above I think) the option was added to ask for the
location of a valid command.com. In either case a DIR will never
require the reload of command.com since DIR is an INTERNAL
command and therefor PART of command.com. The only
commands that can overwite the transient part of command.com
are EXTERNAL commands or executable programs. I will bet
MONEY that NO ONE can give an instance of a DIR command
activating a virus, as I said in my last post. You HAVE TO
EXECUTE the virus code for anything to happen and commands
like DIR, COPY, REN, VOL etc. do NOT execute any code not
found in COMMAND.COM.

Pete

PS. part of the original poster's contention was that the user only
did a DIR, not that they ran ANY sort of external command.


On 8 May 2000, at 20:14, Longden Loo wrote:

>    >turning on the machine. If you have a virus that infects
>    >executables and/or  also modifies the boot sector then you can get
>    >it via booting or executing the infected program. Either way you
>    >WILL NOT get a virus from doing a DIR on ANY disk.
> Message-Id:
> <20000509001357.QGOP3646.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.53¨>
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:14:02 +0000
>
> Hypothetically speaking I think you can load a virus using DIR on a
> disk, tho more technically it'd be via command.com
>
> Probably an improbable case, but if you ran a command whose execution
> requires the reloading of command.com after its completion... a
> doctored command.com could conceivably carry a modified DIR that
> infects any disk it's executed on. This assumes the user doesn't have
> the COMSPEC/SHELL thing set in config.sys... and this is only for DOS.
>
> One way of doing this might be to doctor a genuinely good software
> disk, adding the viral code and the trojan command.com, and setting up
> the batch file for the app so that it switches to drive A before
> execution.  Users looking at the batch file may not see any real clues
> as to the intent.
>
> - Longden
>
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On Mon, 8 May 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

Ý...¨
> My experience is that people do not care about educating themself. You
> can tell fellow newsreaders on how they should behave in newsgroups
> (quoting, LARGE letters and so on). You tell them where they can find
> info about this, but the next day they post messages that look like
> shit..again and again.. They just don't care.

But that's not limited to just Usenet - you need look no further than this
mailing-list to see people, including some who ought to know better,
showing off their poor or seemingly non-existant quoting skills...

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 17:29:22 -0700
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Hi Tim, I just got your email and it's nice to meet you. Yes! I still do have
the 48 Meg Compact flash name brand Simple Technologies disks available.  No
problem, I will hold one for you. I sell (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk for
$75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. You can send payment of money
order only  to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back Tim, the  very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that your disk is on the way. Just please email me back and let me
know when you have actually sent payment so I can be expecting it and also
send me your full mailing address that you would like your disk sent to.
Thanks again!   Scott

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 9:05 AM
> Subject: Compact Flash disks, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are
> Available.
>
> > I have  (2) 48 Meg Compact Flash name Brand Simple Technologies disk
> Hi Scott,
>
>     I will buy one 48 meg compact flash.
>
> Tim
>
> > available. These disks are in excellent condition and have hardly been
> > used except to test a customer's new product at work. I am selling them
> > for $75.00 a piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have
> > (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am selling this disk
> > for $120.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I still have (5) 20
> > Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell  (1) 20 Meg
> > disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20
> > Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If are only interested in
> > name brand Sandisks,, then I have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks available
> > as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for
> > shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus
> > $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment
> > to my address at:
> >
> > Scott Moore
> > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> > Beaverton, Or 97006
> >
> > I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
> > you know that you disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out the
> > very next day unless I receive your payment on A Saturday and then they
> > will go out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place
> > them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are
> > interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or
> > (disks) for you. The response so far has been really great and the
> > people I have worked with have been just terrific!   Thanks alot!
> > Scott
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All these virus problems basically come down to the fact that the
USER ran something. Granted that some programs can be set to
automatically run something but I think that setting is the stupidest
thing EVER and should be grounds for court action if you loose
something because of it. I would bet, though, that in the majority of
cases of the latest MS virus it was the idiot USERS that caused
the problem by running anything that is sent their way. Think about
it this way, if a stranger came up to you on the street and offered
you some unknown substance calling it "candy" would you put it in
your mouth?

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 2:16, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Mon, 8 May 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> > For those, really concerned about possible virus infection,
> > I see two ways out:
>
> > -Make a complete backup of your machine and keep it outside
> >  of the palmtop. (A backup on drive A: could be deleted as
> >  well through a virus)
>
> This is always a good thing, but has nothing to do with virus
> protection in itself, just with recovery.
>
> > -Use a second (minimal) palmtop for email/internet only and
> >  never connect your main machine to the net. Transfer your
> >  downloads with PC cards from the email machine to the main
> >  machine.
>
> And how is this better than, say, running an e-mail/internet suite
> (post/lx) directly on the palmtop? from your description of how to
> implement a virus in ten easy steps (NOTE: joke! ;-), you have to run
> a program to initiate the virus (obviously), and you can still do that
> with your second solution, by transferrring the program to the safe
> palmtop and then running it. Of course, a nice benefit from the second
> solution is that the virus will most likely spred less, because the
> second (infected) palmtop is not connected to the net directly, but
> this is not a benefit to yourself, really, just to other potential
> "infectees"...
>
> I see three solutions:
>
> 1. Keep the palmtop isolated, never transfer anything to the palmtop.
> 100% safe, but obviously limits the palmtop's potential.
>
> 2. Never transfer programs (executables) to the palmtop, only text
> files. A bit better, but...
>
> 3. Use common sense when running foreign programs and don't use an
> e-mail program that automatically runs programs or scripts for you
> (shouldn't really concern palmtop users I imagine). Granted not as
> safe as either one or two, but it has certainly worked for me in many
> years, and I'm confident it will for many years to come.
>
>
> -Laust
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Date:         Tue, 9 May 2000 01:03:58 +0000
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On Sun, 7 May 2000, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Can XGREP find all the files if they reside in the same directory? this
> might help determine whether it is a problem recursing the directory =
tree
> or scanning the file.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust

it's not a recursion problem. I've tried GREP & XGREP with the
two files in the same directory, no recursion. XGREP still
failed to find the data in the .pdb. I think others have hit
the nail on the head with the record length/binary file
suggestion.

By the way, in my simple tests, GREP was about 40% faster than
XGREP, and is free from the Borland Museum site with their C
compiler. It's bigger than XGREP: 7,029 vs 3,380 bytes.

I will try FIND, just for completeness to see how it compares.

I think this is a significant observation, because although
.pdb files and their ilk are not straight ASCII, quite a few
of us keep our data in these formats, and would hope that
GREPs find data within them.

I was "lucky" and just happended to pick some data that was
off the end of the record that XGREP can see. If anyone wants
my .pdb to test their favourite search prog. then I don't mind
mailing it and the data to look for. It's a tad large though,
at 61k. It'll zip down to half that size. Just don't tell
Madonna that I gave you her phone number ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:50:43 -0600
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post this request, but
will anyways.

I have a Databook DTB-TM-240 PCMCIA adapter for my PC.

Its comprised of an ISA interface card, and PCMCIA type II/III card
adapter read/write unit. Does anyone know if this is supported in
Linux-Mandrake?

I've read documentation about PCMCIA slots in a laptop being supported
but am not sure about these...

As far as functionality goes it does work in the *OTHER* OS but not
linux :(. I've also download the RPM from redhat without success...

Any suggestions, tips etc. are welcome...

Thank you...

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Date:         Mon, 8 May 2000 22:08:40 -0400
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              Tom H <n3myw@MEDIAONE.NET>
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Pablo,

There was an article in Circuit Cellar Ink a couple of years back
detailing the software interface to the HP 82240.  It is not IRDA.  I'll
try to find the article tomorrow night and post the issue number and
page.

HTH,
Tom


Pablo Hrenenco wrote:
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 18:36:09 -0400
> To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> From: pablo_hrenenco@non.hp.com (Pablo Hrenenco)
>
> Subscriber Comments: I want to know everything about HP 82240B and
> printer codes.
> We are developping the Windows CE IRDA Drivers.
> My ISV (Developer) is working very hard to have a successfull driver.
> Thanks and luck.
>
> Pablo Hrenenco
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
> *
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>>Just remember, there are three kinds of people in this world.  Those
>>that can count and those that can't.

and what are the other two kinds? <g>

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>>The fact is, few companies write worse software (it's dumb,
>>fat and ugly)

don't sugar coat it tell us how you really feel  <g>

>>I doubt very much if Bill realizes this.

he must isn't he still the "Chief Software Architect"? <g>

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Chris Randle wrote:
>I downloaded a copy of XGREP (v1.03) from SUPER, and decided to
>compare it with a prog called GREP.COM (v1.2) which came with
>Borland's Turbo C (v2.01).

The extra features of XGREP make it more powerful, so I use it. The
features are the { and } conditions for counting occurrences, and the
:a, :d, and :n character classes.

I've also had trouble with Borland GREP when piping data into it from
the DOS stdin - it didn't always work like expected, and XGREP does.

--
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Barry wrote:
>
> ...
>
> I don't know anything about this kind of scripting but I find it
> very hard to understand why Microsoft left us so wide open.  It's
> kind of like designing a car with elaborate locks on all doors but
> none on the sunroof.  It seems very irresponsible.
>

No, it is IMO quite poor taste on MS part, and perhaps irresponsible, but it
is _easy_ to understand why they left things wide open.

MS design is often predicated on the notion that if `we' (speaking in the
Microsoft Royal we) do something so that the user doesn't have to know about
it, it will make their life easier.

For example, I---acting as the creator/sender---can create a beautiful
spreadsheet, and instead of having to send you some elaborate set of
instructions on how to unpack it, and open it up and execute it, I can automate
the whole procedure so it will pop right up on your screen and you won't have to
`know' anything---you can  concentrate directly on the content of the message,
not on the mechanics of delivery. I can say `Click on the Attachment, you'll see
the 4Q estimates with my proposal for 3Q production'. No long elaborate `Save
this as "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Excel\WorkFiles\Q4Est.XCL" (don't
forget the quotes) and then open excel and click on File, then on Open,
... ' You get the idea.

Obviously that's an appealing idea, particularly to someone who is interested
in the content, and not in the computer mechanics. But it is, as you point
out, also terribly dangerous. By being `open' to all these good things, you
_necessarily_ leave yourself `open' to the bad things as well. That's the
`iron law' of computing. Capabilities are neutral---if they exist they can
be exploited for good, but they also can be exploited for evil.

So, this approach is, IMO, the principal reason for MS success. MS systems
almost invariably `demo well'. You can do some incredibly clever things _very_
easily. And you can hide lots of the technical details from the user. Techies
can do their work and they can deliver their product to their managers without
having to explain the grusome details. They don't need to know about
them. In a few minutes you can do things that you might  expect would take
hours.

The problems don't arise until much later. But then they arise in _spades_.
Ever try and find an errant .DLL spread somewhere out in 25gb of disk
containing 40,000 files? The minutes and hours you saved doing some neat
spreadsheets can disappear into days or weeks of pointless, profitless
searching....

Some night, when I have more energy, and the topic of discussion again demands
it, I'll maybe write a piece on my view of MS's design strategy, which I call
the `Small pile of sh*t, large pile of sh*t strategy'. Till then, let me rest
with notion that what we are seeing is the downside of strategies that, till
now, many folks thought had only an upside...

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Somehow I wouldn't be suprised to find that Billy boy actually uses
a unix workstation and not any flavor of windows. Of course when
anyone comes with a camera they would roll out the win box for
pictures.

Pete

On 8 May 2000, at 22:38, Larry Tachna wrote:

> >>The fact is, few companies write worse software (it's dumb,
> >>fat and ugly)
>
> don't sugar coat it tell us how you really feel  <g>
>
> >>I doubt very much if Bill realizes this.
>
> he must isn't he still the "Chief Software Architect"? <g>
>
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 LX'ERS:

     I am selling my HP200LX upgraded by Thaddeus Computing.
It has the following specs: 5mb DoubleSpeed. I will include: a/c adapter, manuals
Connectivity pack (complete), 4-pack rechargeable batt's with ABC/LX  battery monitoring
Software (batt's are rated 1350 MaH Nickel Metal Hydride From Thaddeus computing)
Also the  software INTELLISYNC complete package.

The unit has no scratches, the display no scratches;hinges are tight and smooth.
The unit is A1 condition (Thaddeus did an excellent upgrade)  Then why am I SELLING
The unit, well the FONTS are to small for years I BATTLE with the zoom programs
Still does not help. I want something like the Psion 3a or 3c you can zoom up to 4x
In any application. So I am returning back to my trusty old HP95LX.

My selling cost for the above is: $330.00
Thinks for reading my sad story.                     Bob E

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Synctalk is software that allows WinCE, Palms, Psions to "talk" to one
another (I'm not really sure to what degree), so I asked the manuf. if =
they
would consider adding the HPx00lx to the devices that can use this
program...  Ss their answer below:
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan S. Walcott Ýmailto:rwalcott@sodeog.com¨
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 6:46 AM
To: Nirody, Suresh
Subject: RE: Synctalk
Hi Suresh,
Thank you for your interest in SyncTalk.  The 200lx is a platform we are
considering, but have not yet committed to.  Please keep watching SyncTalk
as we support information exchange for new data types and operating =
system
platforms. If we make the move to support the 200lx I'll let you know.
<SNIP>
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> Subscriber Comments: I'm mainly looking for a translate utility for the
> HP95LX phonebook to just about anything else (HP100LX, etc.)


Well, both the 100 and 200 contain a conversion within the apps
themselves.  The phonebk moves almost everything to the NOTE field
requiring cut/paste.  The appt app works well as I recall.

There was a utility on cis for a better phone conversion.

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> >>Just remember, there are three kinds of people in this world.  Those
> >>that can count and those that can't.
>
> and what are the other two kinds? <g>
>

Those who CAPITALIZE on others math mistakes! (gd&r)

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Daniel,

to each lock there will be a key.

Kind regards

Helmuth


> sounds very interesting - I never considered this to be possible. But I
> think you're right - it would be possible.
>
> On Sun, 7 May 2000 15:43:59 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE=
.DE> wrote:
>
> > We all know: ILOVEYOU does not infect the palmtop. But we are
> > not save. Let me outline a palmtop virus, which works much the
> > same way as ILOVEYOU. I'll explain it with POST/LX because this
> > is the email program I use/know. But similar should be possible
> > with the other palmtop email programs available.
> > Ý...¨
>
> But I really don't think that someone would be interested in writing a
> virus that infects only 0.005% of all computers all over the world
> (amount is estimated, of course ;-) - but it has to be a computer on
> which Post/LX is installed. Avi - how much licenses did you sell? :-) )
> If I wrote a virus, It would only make me happy if the results would be
> readable in newspapers and if this virus got really popular. Or if it
> reached a very special goal. Who could be interested in destroying
> special data on our palmtops?
>
> Sure, YOU could write such a virus, or Avi or Andreas could, maybe half
> of the participants of this list could; but who wants to do it?
>
> We all have to be careful. But with our palmtops we are 100 times safer
> than all windows users!
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
>
> Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de
> homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
> telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> Did you happen to read the NYTimes article for today (May 8, 2000)
> regarding the worm/virus and Ford?  As the Ford IT guys looked over the

Very interesting about the FORD item. I do not write VB
Scripts, but I have a decent command of several programming
languages (am an old assembler programmer on several
platforms, newest is Palmtop.) I thought the stuff was
relatively concise, a bit on the esoteric side, but
partially this was done to hide some of the "works", and
the rest is required by the environment this thing works
in.

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Larry Tachna wrote:
> >>The fact is, few companies write worse software (it's dumb,
> >>fat and ugly)
>
> don't sugar coat it tell us how you really feel  <g>

ROFL...

> >>I doubt very much if Bill realizes this.
>
> he must isn't he still the "Chief Software Architect"? <g>

He just took that title recently when he made Ballmer CEO.

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George Coleman wrote:
> Avi,
> I not only agree but for a long time have been saying the same
> things to anyone who will listen. Thanks for the eloquent
> expression of these ideas.

Good to know I am not the only Stegosaurus out there... :-)

> > To me the worst part is when I see people _accepting_ bad

    Ý...¨

> I remember when Bill was asked if he would consider buying a
> media company--this was after AOL announced they wanted to buy
> Time-Warner.  He said, "No, we're going to stick to what we do
> best, and that's writing software."

Well, actually I admire at least three pieces of software
by MS: Msdos 5 and 6.x were very functional, albeit
limited. I love Visio (yes, they are now a Microsoft
product since January, $1.5bn in stock!) and PowerPoint.
Visio saved me two-thre times in my career, PowerPoint
saved me when I needed to do presentations two years ago.

Both Visio and PowerPoint, despite being MS products were
not written by MS :-) ..

> The fact is, few companies write worse software (it's dumb,
> fat and ugly), but hardly any of their consumers realize this.
> I doubt very much if Bill realizes this.

Yes he does. Yes he is probably blessing it. To him the
software that includes support for everything, including
the kitchen sink (ref. Word for Windows, Excell etc.) these
are sterling examples of responsiveness to customers. He
does not use this garbage.

I would rather have a program I could tailor to my needs:
start with an engine, and add support for various items I
need.

I worked for years as a system programmer in large
mainframe installations and build huge environments (IMS,
CICS, MVS, RACF and others). I could tailor the features
quite comfortably and build systems that corresponded to
what they needs were, even shrink systems when features
were no longer needed. The dumb things worked, many times
right out of the "box". This was a regular occurence. We
still tested the heck out of these beasts (sometimes
representing millions of lines of code!).

I managed a 3 year project once that reengineered a huge
software product (no names, NDA still in force!) It took
about 450 people, 3 years and millions of $$$. The result
was a product with fantastic quality. But the customers got
mad at us right away!!! They were used to corrections to
the code to show up regularly, and we shipped none! They
thought we fell down on the job...

The truth was that it took about 4 months before the first
3 errors showed up - they were typos in messages in some
language... We had a terrible time convincing customers
that the software had such a high quality.

I keep thinking about Windows 2000 correcting 16,000 bugs
and problems in NT and Win98! 16,000... Outlock (as my
partner calles it) is not a surprise.

  Avi

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Subject:      Re: Backlight for 700LX/200LX
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Hi Donald,

On Mon, 8 May 2000 10:01:07 +0200, Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA> wrote:

> What do you suggest for backlighting the LX? Or do most of you use an
> external light?

For an alternative to backlight check out my LED light on
http://daniel.hplx.net

It is a serial-port-driven device that enlightens the palmtop's screen
very brightly and well.

Should also work with the 700LX, if it has the same serial port
connector as the 200LX.

GTX
daniel

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On Mon, 8 May 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> Laust Brock-Nannestad  wrote:
> >>I've "looked" at plenty of infected disks, and never been infected unless
> I actually booted from the disk.<<
>
> You have been extremely fortunate.
> Before installing Dr. Solomon and F-Prot on our classroom computers, I spent
> many days repairing boot sector viruses caused by students bringing their
> disks from home and merely opening a file or doing a DIR A:

Really? could you name such a virus?
I'm sure no code is run on the disk when you do a dir A:, sectors are
merely read. Furthermore, I went to Dr. Solomon's web page, and was unable
to find any bootsector viruses that didn't require you boot with the disk
in the drive. Of course, considering the vast number of viruses available,
I wasn't able to read *all* their virus descriptions.

I don't know what you mean by opening a file (though opening a file in the
sense of, say, a C-style fopen() call shouldn't infect anything either),
but a simple DIR A: cannot infect a computer, it requires you execute some
code either by booting with the disk or running an executable. No code is
loaded (from the target medium) and executed when you do a DIR.


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In general these are only free to the subscribers of a particular GSM provider, and even then they are rare and tend to be run for trial periods only.  The problem seems to centre round the very high charges made for SMS calls (considering how very low they should be, as they are so short!).

All I can suggest  is that you search the web.

As an example here is a link that allows anyone in the world to send SMS to a UK vodafone GSm phone:

http://www.bulletinmail.com/

You'll see that if you send me a message *I* get charged 20p.  Now most people would prefer that the sender pays - can you imagine junk SMS messages that actually cost you?

There is also an offering from BT (owners of Cellnet, one of the UK's cellphone providers) that aims to be more comprehensive, combining being an ISP, news provider etc etc with the ability to deliver to mobiles (www.genie.co.uk)   You can forward your e-mail (assuming you are using them for e-mail) to a phone.   I would guess that similar services will exist in other countries, but it all depends on how they get their money.  In the UK the ISPs still earn money from the Telco, so the ISPs are free.  That Telco rebate will end soon thanks to the regulator driving down charges and opening the local subscriber loops to competition (currently a BT monopoly).

In the US local calls are free so there is no money to earn that way.  As the funding varies globally, so the offerings will vary.

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Date:         Tue, 9 May 2000 13:48:55 +0100
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anyone using dosppp/lxtcp to connect to demon internet (uk service
provider)?

could do with some pointers

thanks

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> Date:    Mon, 8 May 2000 14:21:44 -0700
> From:    Lionel Silva <lsilva@SJ.ZNET.COM>
> Subject: GPS and map program
>
>  I want to use my HP200LX to display a map showing where I am and where
I
>  want to go, with directions to get there.  Like the Hertz Neverlost
system.
>  Ideally it would be connected to a GPS receiver.  Can this be done?
How?
>
>  Lionel Silva mailto:lsilva@sj.znet.com Silva Solutions Corp.
>
GPSCGA, LX-GPS and DLG Viewer are on the Super Site.
http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html. If you don't already have a GPS
with a serial out capability, I'd buy a dedicated GPS with moving map
software instead, and not have to muck about with the cables. The
displays are about the same size as the 200's, and the maps are either in
ROM or downloadable from CD. They also have backlighting.

Jon

Jon Barrett
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>
> >>Just remember, there are three kinds of people in this world.
Those
> >>that can count and those that can't.
>
> and what are the other two kinds? <g>

I think you're one of the other 2 kinds and so am I.

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>
> Date:    Mon, 8 May 2000 14:53:06 -0700
> From:    Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
> Subject: Re: We are vulnerable too
>
> Ed, I haven't kept up on viral technology,   but how does a computer
get a virus
> loaded using "DIR A:"?
>
> I could see the other case "opening a file" .. depending on what you
mean by
> "open".  But DIR A: usually means you're executing from C:, so there
shouldn't
> be any reason why the command processor needs to get anything from A
except the
> directory ... unless there's a virus that transmits thru subdirectory
filenames.
>
> Or maybe the student just TOLD you they just did a DIR A (when actually
they
> tried to run the HOTGIRLS.EXE program <g>).
>
> - Longden
>
>
Actually, DIR A: is a possible vector. As part of opening the directory,
the boot sector of the disk is read to get the media descriptor byte (so
it can tell what kind of disk is there and where to look for the FAT and
root directory). An alternate vector is due to many virii displacing the
FAT and or root directory, and replacing them with executable code for
reading the relocated structures. Or the sequence could have been:

C:\>A:
A:\> DIR

which would also force a boot sector read.

Jon

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<<
In the absence of COMSPEC the command.com file will be loaded from the device
that was used to boot the computer. In later versions (5.0 and above I think)
the option was added to ask for the location of a valid command.com.
<<

OK, I guess that means you can't load a bogus command.com onto the transient
area, that's a good thing to know.

<<
In either case a DIR will never require the reload of command.com since DIR is
an INTERNAL command and therefor PART of command.com. The only commands that can
overwite the transient part of command.com are EXTERNAL commands or executable
programs.
<<

I think that's what I meant when I said:
>> Probably an improbable case, but if you ran a command whose execution
>> requires the reloading of command.com after its completion... a

I was referring to an external command found on the diskette (such as a
shareware program). The point was that once command.com was was hijacked and/or
infected, your "ass is grass".  DIR or any INTERNAL command could then be used
as the delivery mechanism to do the damage.  My musing on the reloading of
command.com was just a speculation on how someone might hijack command.com
without the user doing a boot (ie, social engineering).  If that isn't possible,
then so much the better for the good guys.

<<
I will bet MONEY that NO ONE can give an instance of a DIR command activating a
virus, as I said in my last post. You HAVE TO EXECUTE the virus code for
anything to happen and commands like DIR, COPY, REN, VOL etc. do NOT execute any
code not found in COMMAND.COM.

PS. part of the original poster's contention was that the user only
did a DIR, not that they ran ANY sort of external command.
<<

I agree, besides ... I wouldn't put money against a network technician <g>.
Neither DIR nor any INTERNAL command will initiate the infection on a clean
system ... but if command.com gets sabotaged, it's a whole new game. On a
suspected infected system, a user shouldn't think that "at least DIR will be
safe, so I can check the system using DIR".

McAfee's site lists a DIR virus ->
http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=367

-----------------------------------------------------
Dir is a stealth, memory resident, file infecting virus. It infects .COM files,
including COMMAND.COM.

Upon infection, the virus becomes memory resident as a low system memory
Terminate-and-Stay Resident (TSR) of 1,008 bytes. Interrupt 21 is hooked by the
virus. COMMAND.COM is infected at this time.

Once the Dir Virus is memory resident, it only infects .COM files when a DOS DIR
command is performed. It does not infect files on execution, or when .COM files
are opened. When a DIR command is performed, the first uninfected .COM file that
is found in the directory becomes infected.
------------------------------------------------------

In this case, DIR is infecting other .COM files, but this is only after
command.com is initially infected.

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Hi

I just read an article on the net about Halo Data Devices which will
launch a cf style harddrive for CF type II on 250mb.

I have not been on this site to check how much power it needs, but it
will rotate with 5400 weight is 10g and accesstime is 5ms which is
slower than cf. It is 3.3mm in height.

I do not know if this cf hardrive can be used in the Hplx..but I doubt
it. Rotating things draws a lot of power..

Check this link:

http://www.halodata.com/products/index.html

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Lionel Silva asks about a moving map solution for the LX...

There is a very good solution, but it all revolves around
procuring a high quality, monochrome map with two points
(widely spaced) of known lat/long in .pcx format.

Briefly, it requires the following parts

1.  200LX
2.  LXGPS software (on SUPER site)
3.  Connectivity cable to LX
4.  Connectivity cable to GPS
5.  GPS of almost any flavor (mine is Garmin III+)

It is assumed that you have the map file on your 200LX.
The LXGPS software will allow you to calibrate the map
with your two known points.  The software can interpolate
all other points on the map.  Then you just connect the
LX to the GPS and the GPS tells the LX its current position
all the time.  The software will scroll along, dropping a
(configurable) breadcrumb trail of where you have been.  It
will mark waypoints and do a variety of GPS type tasks.

As I said, the real challenge is procuring the maps.  What
you need is a graphics editor which can save images in
B&W (2 bit) .pcx images.  I use all variety of map programs
(mostly Delorme, but you can capture any displayed map
images using the ALT-PRINTSCREEN key to copy onto the
clipboard.  I use the latter method to transfer DRG maps
from the USGS to .pcx files.  With Delorme maps you
can copy directly to the clipboard, but they come
out better if you change the color configuration files
(color.tbl) to a monochromatic scheme.

Someone wrote an article for the Palmtop Paper in the last
couple of years explaining the whole process pretty well.
I never actaully saw the article, though.

Dennis Bell
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I just read an article on the net about Halo Data Devices which will
> launch a cf style harddrive for CF type II on 250mb.
>
> I have not been on this site to check how much power it needs, but it
> will rotate with 5400 weight is 10g and accesstime is 5ms which is
> slower than cf. It is 3.3mm in height.
>
> I do not know if this cf hardrive can be used in the Hplx..but I doubt
> it. Rotating things draws a lot of power..
>
>
I think that you are right, it will draw too much power. They say
<250mA. I've also heard from other sources that it will not be available
until Sept '00. Bryan

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<<<<I wouldn't bet on that - maybe to the more obvious effects, but
since
most boot-sector virii only put a loader in the boot sector (no room
for
more) and monkey around with the FAT and directory structure to
conceal
the payload, we could get quite thoroughly hosed were we to
inadvertently
load one. BTW - it's not true that you can *only* get a boot-sector
virus
from *booting* an infected disk. That's merely the most common
route, but
corrupted executables can also zap one into your boot sector.>>>>

None of that is really needed.  A virus could be just as effective
modifying config.sys or autoexec.bat, or creating them if they don't
exist.  Who would notice it?  Even if the file date changed hardly
anybody would notice, and the date doesn't have to change.

Since the 200lx disks are ram wiping them out would be nearly
instantaneious.  We're totally vulnerable if anyone should decide to
target us.  The saving grace is that probably nobody is interested
in palmtop users.  Even if someone did wipe out all our systems, it
wouldn't make the news.  :)

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<<<Also, I've heard news that the primary suspect may be a woman.  I
think
that is the best news of the whole event.  I take it to mean that
women
have finally entered the male-dominated computer world in sufficient
numbers at sufficient skill levels to create world-upsetting virii.
Way
to go geek-girls!!  Ya gotta love a woman who knows her TCP/IP.>>>

I saw on both ZDTV and CNN yesterday that even though the FBI and
the Phillipine police are convinced that it is that woman in the
Phillipines, the guy who tracked down the Mellisa virus is
investigating on his own and has been convinced since about day 2
that it's a German foreign exchange student in Australia.  They
didn't give any more details.

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> > I do not know if this cf hardrive can be used in the Hplx..but I doubt
> > it. Rotating things draws a lot of power..
> >
> >
> I think that you are right, it will draw too much power. They say
> <250mA. I've also heard from other sources that it will not be available
> until Sept '00. Bryan

Don't forget that possibly it could be used with DoubleSlot, when connected
to an external power supply.  That would solve the power issues, I don't
know about drivers for DOS and such.  As I recall, that pretty much nixed
the notion of using the little Clik drives with the palmtop.

-Chris

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> GPSCGA, LX-GPS and DLG Viewer are on the Super Site.
> http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html. If you don't already have a GPS
> with a serial out capability, I'd buy a dedicated GPS with moving map
> software instead, and not have to muck about with the cables. The
> displays are about the same size as the 200's, and the maps are either in
> ROM or downloadable from CD. They also have backlighting.

I thought about this approach once I became interested in GPS
recently. Since they turned SA off I thought how neat it would be to
have a unit with the maps built in and actually see where I was going
around town and on trips.

The reason I didn't go that route was that I have a 200LX, a Jornada
680, a Palm V, and Laptop and since the serial Earthmate version was
so much cheaper and I already had several other platforms that could
talk to it then I felt that was the best decision. The price was also
significantly lower than the stand alone unit and I can place the
Earthmate away from the viewing platform for better results.

Just thought I would throw that out there. I am no GPS expert by any
means.

Cheers,
 Mack

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<<<<Ed, I haven't kept up on viral technology,   but how does a
computer get a virus
loaded using "DIR A:"?>>>>

My employer, a few years ago, hired a guy to spend full time seeking
out viruses in the company.   He found a floppy that, after being
inserted in a computer and looked at with "DIR A:",  Norton AV would
find a virus in that computer.  Everyone had believed this was
impossible, partly because of the advice I had given about what was
dangerous and what was not.  So I was called to take a look.

Sure enough, it was true.  (anybody catching on yet?  :)  You run
NAV and find no virus, insert the disk, type "DIR A:" and then run
NAV again (with the disk removed) and it finds a virus....in memory.

What was happening was that the virus which did exist on the floppy,
was being read into the DTA when the DIR command was run.  It was in
memory.  But of course it was no threat.  Rebooting would get rid of
it.  Today, tommorrow, the next day, whenever.  Even DIRing another
floppy disk would get rid of it.  That's what I did to convince them
it was no threat.  There was no realisitic way that virus could be
activated.

It was stored in the computers memory as data, not as a program, and
could never be executed unless there was another virus keyed to do
that, which would be silly since if you have the first one planted
you dont have any need for a second one.

So, yes, you can find a virus after typing DIR A: on an infected
disk.  But you can't get a virus that way.

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"Peter W. Borders" wrote:
>
> Somehow I wouldn't be suprised to find that Billy boy actually uses
> a unix workstation and not any flavor of windows. Of course when
> anyone comes with a camera they would roll out the win box for
> pictures.
>
> Pete
>

I would. I see every sign that a major portion of the reason for Gates'
success is that he has `common taste'. Windows sells because Gates
instinctively knows what people want _because_ it is what he wants.
He reminds me most of DeWitt Wallace who founded and made a fantastic
success of Readers' Digest. It turned out that if `Wally liked it' so would
the average reader. He didn't have to `come down' to common taste, he had it
by birthright.

I very much doubt if Gates is `above' Windows. I rather think he is just the
`most average of all' (except in his ability to write contracts, that is)...

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"Peter W. Borders" wrote:
>
> ... Think about
> it this way, if a stranger came up to you on the street and offered
> you some unknown substance calling it "candy" would you put it in
> your mouth?
>

This is largely a `straw man'. Think about it this way, what would you do
if a friend of yours offered you a piece of candy. Or someone invited you to
dinner. Do you always check and see where they bought their stuff?
Well, you may, but lots of people don't.

That's a principal problem with this particular variant of virus/worm. It
_does_ come from a friend. So the `...stranger came up...' analogue doesn't
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<<<<I think your users are being a little dishonest if they are
saying "All
I did was do a dir A: ...". If a floppy has a boot sector virus the
ONLY way it can get on the hard drive is to attempt to BOOT off of
the disk, usually caused by putting the disk in before turning on
the
machine. If you have a virus that infects executables and/or  also
modifies the boot sector then you can get it via booting or
executing the infected program. Either way you WILL NOT get a
virus from doing a DIR on ANY disk. I have been running a multi-lab
computer complex for over 12 years so I am quite familiar with both
viruii and computer illeterate students and faculty.>>>>

The first thing that happens when you've changed disks and then do
DIR A: or anything else, is that the boot sector is read into memory
and examined to see how the disk is formatted.

As I said in my earlier post, that's totally harmless.

But there is something that isn't harmless.  Spreading rumors about
what viruses can do and can't do.  I don't know who knows what on
this group and I don't know which of you have what experience.

But in my opinion, only people who have assembly language
programming experience are qualified to give an intelligent opinion
on what something like a boot sector virus can do.  Those who don't
are passing rumors.  They simply can't know.

I don't want to sound pompous when I say that, but it's true.  When
you work in other languages you learn about the computer through a
filter.  You learn quite a bit about what it does.  In asm you learn
in great detail how it does it, as well.  And that knowlege is
critical to knowing what a boot sector virus can or can't do.

Ok, so maybe I did want to sound a little pompous.  But it's still
true.  :)

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Greetings All:

1) The April logs are available for download

2) I'm in the process of updating the Glimpse search engine to
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Cheers...AJKind

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<<
What was happening was that the virus which did exist on the floppy,
was being read into the DTA when the DIR command was run.  It was in
memory.  But of course it was no threat.  Rebooting would get rid of
it.  Today, tommorrow, the next day, whenever.  Even DIRing another
floppy disk would get rid of it.  That's what I did to convince them
it was no threat.  There was no realisitic way that virus could be
activated.

It was stored in the computers memory as data, not as a program, and
could never be executed unless there was another virus keyed to do
that, which would be silly since if you have the first one planted
you dont have any need for a second one.
<<

Ah, but not so silly.  You already admit that the first one is planted where it
won't do any damage ... why not have a 2nd program that's not recognized as a
virus which reads the DTA (whatever that is) searching for a code string that
identifies the 1st program and then "chambers the bullet".  The virus writer
could use the 2nd program as "insurance" in case wary users such as yourself
know not to run or load the 1st file onto the system.

But thanks for that explanation on "DIR A:" getting a positive NAV virus reading
... a new one on me.

I think I'll bow out of this virus discussion now ... I leave the last words in
your (and others) hands.

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Barry wrote:
>
> ...
>
> The first thing that happens when you've changed disks and then do
> DIR A: or anything else, is that the boot sector is read into memory
> and examined to see how the disk is formatted.
>
> As I said in my earlier post, that's totally harmless.
>

I hope that in saying this you actually have looked at your boot sector, and
have read all of the code in MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS and their equivalents, so that
you are sure about just which piece of COMMAND.COM or its equivalent you are
picking up and that you have read all of the code that selects down to `DIR'
and also the code that implements DIR in all of the various systems that have
implemented that command, and that you can  _guarrantee_ that none of these
versions of DIR, or any of these hundreds of thousands or millions of machine
instructions executed in the process of getting there, could ever be coerced
into mis-performing because of some bug in their code.

You see, that's the rub. We all know it is the intention of the designers
of `systems level' software to not have errors in their code, but as programmers
we also know that (at least speaking for myself) _none_ of the code that is
out there is 100% error-checking and 100% error free. Most code can be made to
mis-behave by provoking it in ways that the designers of the code did not
expect. Whether these errors produce _exploitable_ errors is a matter for
research and for fertile minds, but I don't believe that _even you_ can
guarrentee `... that's totally harmless' unless you have actually indulged
in the (nearly academic) exercise of `proving' that the code is valid over
the entire range of various DIR implementations (I can think of at least several
dozens of different implementations of DIR), input possibilities and memory
states.

>
> But there is something that isn't harmless.  Spreading rumors about
> what viruses can do and can't do.  I don't know who knows what on
> this group and I don't know which of you have what experience.
>

I guess I agree. But there is something else that isn't harmless. That's
saying `X can't happen' when it perfectly well can.

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Well, better late than never. . . . I've been having a wonderful time with Flexpad.  I know it's an old program but for some reason it escaped me until now.

Does anyone have information on the program, ways of usage, internet links?  I've come a long way in 48 hours and now I'm ready to read more.

Thanks . . .
Carol

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Guenther and all you Wizards,

I got the very same result on the 29/30th March. The topic was HPLX PDA emulation and Alan Striegel and F.
Kaufman had given me the URL as you gave it and also as "freeservers.combook/gdbwin/index.html." As far as I
remember, the latter got me through to the Japanese version, but I couldn't figure how to download from it.

I haven't time to keep up with all the postings you guys generate, which accounts for this being a delayed
reaction to your posting.

As a recent joiner may I say what a marvellous resource this forum is, and how impressed I am by both the
contributors and the contributions.  O to have more time.  ".. but I have promises to keep, and miles to
go...."

"Guenther Helmuth E." wrote:

> Albert,
>
> > Wed,  3 May 2000 11:09:51 -0500 (EST)
> >
> > complete URL is:
> >
> > http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh
>
> This is the answer I get here on a public access:
>
> <html><head><title>PERMISSION DENIED</title></head>
> <body bgcolor=#ffffff>
> <h1>Forbidden</h1>
>
> <br>You do not have permission to access this document.<p>
>
> Binary files stored on FreeServers must be accessed by a local link on a FreeServers user web page.<br><br>
> <p>
> Thank you for using <a href=http://www.freeservers.com/>Free Servers</a>.<p>
>
> </body></html>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
>
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Hi,

I've seen some pilot emulators that use the pilot ROM code in order to
create a true emulation of a palmpilot. I think there's one for the HP48 as
well. I wonder if it would be possible to create an HP200lx emulator in the
same fashion. I think that Ian Dean's PC-XT comes the closest but it would
be great if we had a program that read the HP ROM and inserted it into PC-XT
somehow so you could actually have the built-in apps and everything. It's
not a copyright violation if you own the unit and copy the ROM from your
unit into PC-XT.

How far into fantasyland is this idea? Should we approach Ian with it?

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On 2000-05-04 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >Seems that those of us who use archaic, old dos remain generally
   >immune from these various virii that spread through the newest,
   >most powerful, "can't be lived without" software.
   >I use Post/lx on most of my computing platforms including two Win98
   >systems.  Isn't it nice to know that so far, these "pranks" have no
   >targeted the obsolete Dos platforms and software!

Indeed.  I use Nettamer for my email needs on my palmtop and desktop...and
have encountered no worries so far!


Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Test Drive

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On Tue, 9 May 2000 13:29:26 +0200, Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:

> > You have been extremely fortunate.
> > Before installing Dr. Solomon and F-Prot on our classroom computers, I spent
> > many days repairing boot sector viruses caused by students bringing their
> > disks from home and merely opening a file or doing a DIR A:
>
> Really? could you name such a virus?

I think I remember a virus called "Form" that infected the bootsector
of a pc. I was never infected but the ones who where did not boot from
the disc. This was a real problem on my school. The sysadmin people
placed a machine in the doorway where are studens were supposed to clean
there floppies.

I do not remember what the "Form" virus did. But it did copy itself to
every floppy inserted and it was a real problem..

Regards

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On Tue, 9 May 2000 02:30:15 +0200, Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 May 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> Ý...¨
> > My experience is that people do not care about educating themself. You
> > can tell fellow newsreaders on how they should behave in newsgroups
> > (quoting, LARGE letters and so on). You tell them where they can find
> > info about this, but the next day they post messages that look like
> > shit..again and again.. They just don't care.
>
> But that's not limited to just Usenet - you need look no further than this
> mailing-list to see people, including some who ought to know better,
> showing off their poor or seemingly non-existant quoting skills...

You got my "hidden" message :-) Maybe we should create a FAQ/info page
for this list where we tell people how to behave..just a thought. Maybe
Daniel can have it on his site with the Irdaphone Faq he is working
on..

Regards

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:>>I don't know what you mean by opening a file
...<<

Blame my statement on failing memory (not my Palmtop's, just mine<sheepish
g>. I haven't looked at this virus information in seven or eight years.)

I checked Virinfo.com for the Monkey virus info. You're right: no way to get
DIR A: to activate the virus. More likely the students tried to boot from A:
That's probably why I configured all the PCs to boot from C: The PCs were
equipped with a shareware, menu program like Filer. If you pressed
CTRL+1, you'd get a directory of A: If you highlighted a filename and
"opened" the file it would run the file if it was a .com or .bat file.

Thanks for challenging my statement. I now have my memory back in working
order.

.ed.

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Okay computer gurus, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to
take it anymore!

Seriously though, I'm *very* frustrated with my work PC.  It's
a Pentium (133?) with 32M of RAM hooked to my employer;s LAN via
Netware (v5?).  The stupid thing is doggy as hell and crashes if
I try to run more than one major application at once.

Is there any way to log in to the Netware server (to access files
and the Internet like the LX with an ethernet card) if I boot
the PC to DOS?

Ted

--
Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C  A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25

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Is there any particular advantage of the Earthmate/Tripmate over a Garmin eTrex?  I'm leaning toward the eTrex because it would appear to do everything the Earthmate does in interfacing with my laptop/palm while still having an independent display as well (no maps, though).

The price is around $115 which is what I've seen for the Earthmate.

Larry Zimmerman

------Original Message------
From: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
The reason I didn't go that route was that I have a 200LX, a Jornada
680, a Palm V, and Laptop and since the serial Earthmate version was
so much cheaper and I already had several other platforms that could
talk to it then I felt that was the best decision. The price was also
significantly lower than the stand alone unit and I can place the
Earthmate away from the viewing platform for better results.

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>Think about it this way, if a stranger came up to you on the street and
>offered you some unknown substance calling it "candy" would you put it
>in your mouth?

the difference is that the "candy" is coming from your friend who
temporarily lost his marbles due to falling in (for) love.vbs

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>Has anyone told you lately what a gem you are

which translates to "special" (thank you)... and i have a special, one only
in the whole universe 100LX, because...  it acts as my barometer!
how?
over night i leave it in the pocket of my white doctor coat in the hallway,
and in the morning, when i push the "w" key it gives me "w\" if it is going
to rain (due to high humidity); if it is dry it returns a normal "w"

anyone else can match my 100LX Houdini? :)

     __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my 100LX
  _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful spring countryside
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Subject:      Re: Dir A: virus
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Where did the virus COME from though? If it was in the floppies
directory structures it would not do any good and it would be
overwritten very easily, I don't see any virus writer being that dumb.
I sure would like to see that one, you don't happen to remember
what NAV identified it as do you? Of course there is always the
chance that it was a misidentification, especially given the location.
I have a current version of McAfee that constantly identifies two
parts of Oracle's client as virus droppers, of course they are not
and when I upgraded the McAfee program itself it quit identifying
them.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 10:17, Barry wrote:

> <<<<Ed, I haven't kept up on viral technology,   but how does a
> computer get a virus
> loaded using "DIR A:"?>>>>
>
> My employer, a few years ago, hired a guy to spend full time seeking
> out viruses in the company.   He found a floppy that, after being
> inserted in a computer and looked at with "DIR A:",  Norton AV would
> find a virus in that computer.  Everyone had believed this was
> impossible, partly because of the advice I had given about what was
> dangerous and what was not.  So I was called to take a look.
>
> Sure enough, it was true.  (anybody catching on yet?  :)  You run NAV
> and find no virus, insert the disk, type "DIR A:" and then run NAV
> again (with the disk removed) and it finds a virus....in memory.
>
> What was happening was that the virus which did exist on the floppy,
> was being read into the DTA when the DIR command was run.  It was in
> memory.  But of course it was no threat.  Rebooting would get rid of
> it.  Today, tommorrow, the next day, whenever.  Even DIRing another
> floppy disk would get rid of it.  That's what I did to convince them
> it was no threat.  There was no realisitic way that virus could be
> activated.
>
> It was stored in the computers memory as data, not as a program, and
> could never be executed unless there was another virus keyed to do
> that, which would be silly since if you have the first one planted you
> dont have any need for a second one.
>
> So, yes, you can find a virus after typing DIR A: on an infected
> disk.  But you can't get a virus that way.
>
> Barry
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Well then I suggest that you NEVER do a dir on a disk AGAIN
since you are so unsure. All I know is that there has NEVER been
a reported virus that exploits any DIR bug that can make it
execute, good enough for me.

Also, for your own education, the code that actually does DIR is
quite simple and mainly consists of several INT 21H calls. If there
were any real bugs in it they were long ago removed. DOS, and
something as simple as the DIR command implementation is a far
cry for the bloated crud that MS spews forth today.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 13:49, David Ness wrote:

> Barry wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > The first thing that happens when you've changed disks and then do
> > DIR A: or anything else, is that the boot sector is read into memory
> > and examined to see how the disk is formatted.
> >
> > As I said in my earlier post, that's totally harmless.
> >
>
> I hope that in saying this you actually have looked at your boot
> sector, and have read all of the code in MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS and
> their equivalents, so that you are sure about just which piece of
> COMMAND.COM or its equivalent you are picking up and that you have
> read all of the code that selects down to `DIR' and also the code that
> implements DIR in all of the various systems that have implemented
> that command, and that you can  _guarrantee_ that none of these
> versions of DIR, or any of these hundreds of thousands or millions of
> machine instructions executed in the process of getting there, could
> ever be coerced into mis-performing because of some bug in their code.
>
> You see, that's the rub. We all know it is the intention of the
> designers of `systems level' software to not have errors in their
> code, but as programmers we also know that (at least speaking for
> myself) _none_ of the code that is out there is 100% error-checking
> and 100% error free. Most code can be made to mis-behave by provoking
> it in ways that the designers of the code did not expect. Whether
> these errors produce _exploitable_ errors is a matter for research and
> for fertile minds, but I don't believe that _even you_ can guarrentee
> `... that's totally harmless' unless you have actually indulged in the
> (nearly academic) exercise of `proving' that the code is valid over
> the entire range of various DIR implementations (I can think of at
> least several dozens of different implementations of DIR), input
> possibilities and memory states.
>
> >
> > But there is something that isn't harmless.  Spreading rumors about
> > what viruses can do and can't do.  I don't know who knows what on
> > this group and I don't know which of you have what experience.
> >
>
> I guess I agree. But there is something else that isn't harmless.
> That's saying `X can't happen' when it perfectly well can.
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Do you honestly beleive that Gates uses all the features in even
ONE of MS' programs? Yet they add more features. The only
reason MS products are popular is that MS TOLD the users that
they NEEDED these features, not the other way around, it is called
MARKETING. Now all the people that were perfectly happy with
something like Office 97 are being TOLD that they NEED all the
new features of Office 2000. Of course these are the same people
that only use about 10% of the features in the current version.

For proof that MS TELLS the people what they want look at things
like the fact that every new verison of a program comes out with a
NEW format to save the data in. So now you start getting files you
can't read and suddenly you to have to buy the new version.

Now the newest thing is supplying the programs over the internet
for RENT. Gates has stated in the past the version upgrades don't
generate enough money and now he has found a way around that,
don't sell the software but rent it to you over and over again.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 11:19, David Ness wrote:

> "Peter W. Borders" wrote:
> >
> > Somehow I wouldn't be suprised to find that Billy boy actually uses
> > a unix workstation and not any flavor of windows. Of course when
> > anyone comes with a camera they would roll out the win box for
> > pictures.
> >
> > Pete
> >
>
> I would. I see every sign that a major portion of the reason for
> Gates' success is that he has `common taste'. Windows sells because
> Gates instinctively knows what people want _because_ it is what he
> wants. He reminds me most of DeWitt Wallace who founded and made a
> fantastic success of Readers' Digest. It turned out that if `Wally
> liked it' so would the average reader. He didn't have to `come down'
> to common taste, he had it by birthright.
>
> I very much doubt if Gates is `above' Windows. I rather think he is
> just the `most average of all' (except in his ability to write
> contracts, that is)...
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That arguement is wrong. You say what if a friend offered the candy
but in that case I can SEE and IDENTIFY the friend. Here is the
real analogy, would you eat a piece of candy from a friend that you
found left on your doorstep with no prior warning and no reason that
this friend is giving you candy? Also, the friend has left a cryptic
note saying to enjoy the candy and it is TYPED so you can't even
identify the handwriting. THAT is a fittinf analogy to what is
happening with email worms. People are getting things from a
COMPUTER that has their friends name and a cryptic message
and they are opening it without knowing why they even got it. To
me that is the height of stupidity and if you wish to do this, or
recommended that your friends do this then feel free. All I know is
that I have never gotten an email virus since I only open
attachments that I am EXPECTING and even then I would be wary
of an executable attachment.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 11:20, David Ness wrote:

> "Peter W. Borders" wrote:
> >
> > ... Think about
> > it this way, if a stranger came up to you on the street and offered
> > you some unknown substance calling it "candy" would you put it in
> > your mouth?
> >
>
> This is largely a `straw man'. Think about it this way, what would you
> do if a friend of yours offered you a piece of candy. Or someone
> invited you to dinner. Do you always check and see where they bought
> their stuff? Well, you may, but lots of people don't.
>
> That's a principal problem with this particular variant of virus/worm.
> It _does_ come from a friend. So the `...stranger came up...' analogue
> doesn't apply.
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None of those will execute the virus code so none of them can
actually lead to infection of the target machine. They might lead to
a false positive in the virus detection software but I would consider
that a bug in the detection software. It shouldn't warn me of a virus
that can't do anything, which these can't.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 10:03, Jon Barrett wrote:

> Actually, DIR A: is a possible vector. As part of opening the
> directory, the boot sector of the disk is read to get the media
> descriptor byte (so it can tell what kind of disk is there and where
> to look for the FAT and root directory). An alternate vector is due to
> many virii displacing the FAT and or root directory, and replacing
> them with executable code for reading the relocated structures. Or the
> sequence could have been:
>
> C:\>A:
> A:\> DIR
>
> which would also force a boot sector read.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> jonzann@altavista.net
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From: "David Ness" <DNess@Home.Com>
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Subject: Re: More about DIR A:
>
> I hope that in saying this you actually have looked at your boot
sector, and
> have read all of the code in MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS and their
equivalents, so that
> you are sure about just which piece of COMMAND.COM or its
equivalent you are
> picking up and that you have read all of the code that selects
down to `DIR'
> and also the code that implements DIR in all of the various
systems that have
> implemented that command, and that you can  _guarrantee_ that none
of these
> versions of DIR, or any of these hundreds of thousands or millions
of machine
> instructions executed in the process of getting there, could ever
be coerced
> into mis-performing because of some bug in their code.

Nope.  I haven't done that.  I have looked at the DIR code, probably
in MSDOS 2.11, and probably not since then.  So I can't give a
guarantee.

> You see, that's the rub. We all know it is the intention of the
designers
> of `systems level' software to not have errors in their code, but
as programmers
> we also know that (at least speaking for myself) _none_ of the
code that is
> out there is 100% error-checking and 100% error free. Most code
can be made to
> mis-behave by provoking it in ways that the designers of the code
did not
> expect. Whether these errors produce _exploitable_ errors is a
matter for
> research and for fertile minds, but I don't believe that _even
you_ can
> guarrentee `... that's totally harmless' unless you have actually
indulged
> in the (nearly academic) exercise of `proving' that the code is
valid over
> the entire range of various DIR implementations (I can think of at
least several
> dozens of different implementations of DIR), input possibilities
and memory
> states.

Again, no guarantee.   I also can't guarantee that a flying saucer
won't land in your back yard and use your garden hose to put water
in it's radiator.  But I feel pretty safe making predictions about
both situations.

> > But there is something that isn't harmless.  Spreading rumors
about
> > what viruses can do and can't do.  I don't know who knows what
on
> > this group and I don't know which of you have what experience.
> >
>
> I guess I agree. But there is something else that isn't harmless.
That's
> saying `X can't happen' when it perfectly well can.

Anything can happen.  A cosmic ray can change a bit and turn ms dos
itself into a virus.  In fact, maybe thats how windows came about.
But probably not.

I don't pretend to be God speaking absolute truth.  I suspect you're
the only one that thought I did pretend that.  At least I hope so.

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That is just a virus that uses the DIR command as a vector to
spread itself. It would have to infect the computer by having a file
on the A: disk executed first which isn't exactly what the original
poster was saying. Kind of the cart before the horse scenario.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 7:34, Longden Loo wrote:

> McAfee's site lists a DIR virus ->
> http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=367
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Dir is a stealth, memory resident, file infecting virus. It infects
> .COM files, including COMMAND.COM.
>
> Upon infection, the virus becomes memory resident as a low system
> memory Terminate-and-Stay Resident (TSR) of 1,008 bytes. Interrupt 21
> is hooked by the virus. COMMAND.COM is infected at this time.
>
> Once the Dir Virus is memory resident, it only infects .COM files when
> a DOS DIR command is performed. It does not infect files on execution,
> or when .COM files are opened. When a DIR command is performed, the
> first uninfected .COM file that is found in the directory becomes
> infected. ------------------------------------------------------
>
> In this case, DIR is infecting other .COM files, but this is only
> after command.com is initially infected.
>
> - Longden
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After thinking about this a few minutes I think what you are
describing is more a bug in the NAV program than an actual virus
infection. Granted that the virus code may have ended up in the
memory of the system, even though I can't figure out why it would
be where it was, it was not in a position to be executed. There are
areas of memory that programs like NAV should ignore since there
is no possible way that the code could get executed and this
sounds like one case. It would be interesting to know if later
versions of NAV respond the same. I have a current version of
McAfee that constantly complains about two programs that are
part of Oracle client, it thinks they are virus droppers. When I
upgraded the CODE, not the defs, it quit complaining.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 10:17, Barry wrote:

> <<<<Ed, I haven't kept up on viral technology,   but how does a
> computer get a virus
> loaded using "DIR A:"?>>>>
>
> My employer, a few years ago, hired a guy to spend full time seeking
> out viruses in the company.   He found a floppy that, after being
> inserted in a computer and looked at with "DIR A:",  Norton AV would
> find a virus in that computer.  Everyone had believed this was
> impossible, partly because of the advice I had given about what was
> dangerous and what was not.  So I was called to take a look.
>
> Sure enough, it was true.  (anybody catching on yet?  :)  You run NAV
> and find no virus, insert the disk, type "DIR A:" and then run NAV
> again (with the disk removed) and it finds a virus....in memory.
>
> What was happening was that the virus which did exist on the floppy,
> was being read into the DTA when the DIR command was run.  It was in
> memory.  But of course it was no threat.  Rebooting would get rid of
> it.  Today, tommorrow, the next day, whenever.  Even DIRing another
> floppy disk would get rid of it.  That's what I did to convince them
> it was no threat.  There was no realisitic way that virus could be
> activated.
>
> It was stored in the computers memory as data, not as a program, and
> could never be executed unless there was another virus keyed to do
> that, which would be silly since if you have the first one planted you
> dont have any need for a second one.
>
> So, yes, you can find a virus after typing DIR A: on an infected
> disk.  But you can't get a virus that way.
>
> Barry
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Subject:      Re: GPS and map program
Comments: To: zimm4@JUNO.COM
In-Reply-To:  "zimm4@JUNO.COM"'s message of Tue, 9 May 2000 17:01:00 -0400

One advantage of the Earthmate/Tripmate is that you don't need to
spend extra money for the interconnect cable.  $115. is fine for the
eTrex, but you then need a cable.  And there's several available, I
haven't figured exactly which one I need.
Of course, the eTrex can be used stand-alone, and isn't any larger
than a Tripmate.  And IIRC, the Earthmate seems to use a proprietary
protocol.

BTW, for a map program, look at APRS, an amateur radio application,
that can be used without the radio, just a GPS and computer.
It runs fine, if slowly, on an HP200.
Check around under http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/ or
http://www.tapr.org


   Date:    Tue, 9 May 2000 17:01:00 -0400
   From:    Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>

   Is there any particular advantage of the Earthmate/Tripmate over a Garmin eTrex?  I'm leaning toward the eTrex because it would appear to do everything the Earthmate does in interfacing with my laptop/palm while still having an independent display as well (no maps, though).

   The price is around $115 which is what I've seen for the Earthmate.

   Larry Zimmerman

   ------Original Message------
   From: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
   The reason I didn't go that route was that I have a 200LX, a Jornada
   680, a Palm V, and Laptop and since the serial Earthmate version was
   so much cheaper and I already had several other platforms that could
   talk to it then I felt that was the best decision. The price was also
   significantly lower than the stand alone unit and I can place the
   Earthmate away from the viewing platform for better results.

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I wasn't aware the 200LX could do GPS and moving maps until I've seen some
threads here recently.  Could someone point to some links with starter info?
TIA.
Jim

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> Subject: Re: GPS and map program
>
>
> Is there any particular advantage of the Earthmate/Tripmate
> over a Garmin eTrex?  I'm leaning toward the eTrex because it
> would appear to do everything the Earthmate does in
> interfacing with my laptop/palm while still having an
> independent display as well (no maps, though).
>
> The price is around $115 which is what I've seen for the Earthmate.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
> The reason I didn't go that route was that I have a 200LX, a Jornada
> 680, a Palm V, and Laptop and since the serial Earthmate version was
> so much cheaper and I already had several other platforms that could
> talk to it then I felt that was the best decision. The price was also
> significantly lower than the stand alone unit and I can place the
> Earthmate away from the viewing platform for better results.
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Anyone know where the Rex-3 -> HP200LX is going? try to e-mail Chris Lott,
but he had never answered my e-mail.

Thanks

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I did a 'furious' web search for myself and found this site:

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/julian/sms/

but have not tried it for myself. This one sets up it with procmail and
his perl program to forward the e-mail to SMS from your own linux box and
modem.

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Hi Scott,

Over here (in Ireland and in the UK) a money order is what we get in a
post office and I haven't used the service for over 30 yrs. Any time I
don't use a credit card, I send an International Bank Draft (issued by a
bank) denominated in $'s drawn on a US bank: this is bullet proof. Is
"Money Order" American English for a bank draft?

Not just idle curiosity. Some day you may have something I can't resist.
BTW, if I had seen that 85mb Sandisk before I bought Thaddeus's 96mb
Compact flash, they would have lost out (sorry Wayne).

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> I wasn't aware the 200LX could do GPS and moving maps until I've seen some
> threads here recently.  Could someone point to some links with starter info?

LXGPS is a moving map program designed for the 200LX.  See:

      http://www.jps.net/renda/greg/

As someone else mentioned, the Earthmate doesn't speak the NMEA
standard protocol so, for now, it won't work with LXGPS.

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Hi,

My guess is that we soon will get the news that it was not a guy in
Philippines. Simply because in my saved Virus file I can clearly track
from whom it came from (Ok I am in Singapore, but..). Despite the fact
that it's easy to "infect" M$, A "normal smart" IT guy does not put out =
so
clear "tracks" if he wants to infect the world- or maybe he is plain
stupid....

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On 2000-04-30 Yehuda said:
   >Hello!
   >Can some recommend a good free chess program for my 200lx?
   >Thanks Yehuda.

What about the PowerChess program available on the Supersite?  It's
shareware, but runs quite adequately on the 200LX.  I use it to play chess
quite often.


Regards,
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On 2000-04-28 Domingo said:
   >I am not the original poster, but I think I can comment some
   >on your question.   InfoSelect doesn't do much, but it does
   >it very well.   If you are the type of person that prefers
   >to put your thoughts or information down as they come, and
   >organize them later, InfoSelect has no equal, IMNSHO.  The
   >great thing is that you have fast access to your
   >information, whether you make time to organize it or not.
   >And it has a very low learning  curve.

It sounds like what I'm looking for. From your post, I gather it runs under
both DOS and Windows.  Is it commercially available on the Internet
anywhere?

Thanks!


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   >No, it is an IBM internally developed editor which has never been
   >released outside IBM (same as T.EXE).
   >Ulrich Boche

Aah.  Thanks for the clarification.


Regards,
David

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On 2000-05-03 Russ said:
   >Like Ulrich I too work for IBM.   At times the Tiny editor has been
   >on publicly accessible sites although the doc makes it sound as if
   >you needed to be an OS/2 user.  I remember it being available on
   >the old BBS system run by IBM supporting early pcs, available for
   >download by anyone.

Thanks for this information.  I'll keep looking for this program and see if
I can find it.


Regards,
David

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On 2000-05-01 Ed said:
   >I've been using GDBWIN (Japanese version of 200LX NoteTaker,
   >Database, PhoneBook) for a month or more. It has become the most
   >used program on my WinBox (after NetNav and Outlook Express) I'm
   >using GDBWIN as a faster version of the CPack database apps. I can
   >copy and paste from a text editor which is not easy to do with the
   >DOS version of CPack. Cool!  Wish I could read Japanese. I'm using
   >only 50% of all the features of the program. (If the features are
   >actually there and not just place-holders for a newer version of
   >the program.)
   >----------
Cool!  I'd thought that this program only worked with Noteteker files.  Now,
does it allow you to create files as well on the desktop, or only work with
files that were originially created on the 200LX?


Regards,
David

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   >No, it is an IBM internally developed editor which has never been
   >released outside IBM (same as T.EXE).
   >Ulrich Boche

This is only partly true.
The IBM Internal Use Only E3 editor has not been released to the Public
Domain, but it's cut-down version T definitely has. In fact, it's on SUPER.
Whether IBM ever approved of this is another matter, however, as it wasan
employee-written program, there may have been a 'copyright' period, and
the author may have eventually been allowed to release it.
I think the reason it didn't happen with E3 is that it was adopted as
an IBM product, and a variation of it included in OS/2.


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Sorry folks, due to some finger trouble, my last note was
sent before I finished it.
It's not from David Ball as the signoff suggests.

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>I will bet MONEY that NO ONE can give an instance of a DIR command
activating a>virus, as I said in my last post. You HAVE TO EXECUTE the
virus code for>anything to happen and commands like DIR, COPY, REN, VOL
etc. do NOT execute >any code not found in COMMAND.COM.IMHO, that would
be a bad bet!  Here's something to think about... I'm not a programmer,
but that brought back yet another relevant memory from my BBS sysop
days.If ansi.com is already being used on a DOS based computer, just
getting a text file attachment and viewing it could be deadly.  It could
redefine the "D" key to mean "del c:"In this case, one wouldn't even have
to _finish_ typing "dir a:" to activate the damage!Cheers!John Vander
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I think that is streaching iot a bit. :-)

Also, at beast you might call that a trojan but not a virus since it
doesn't replicate and it doesn't live past a reboot.

Pete

On 9 May 2000, at 22:12, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> >I will bet MONEY that NO ONE can give an instance of a DIR command
> activating a>virus, as I said in my last post. You HAVE TO EXECUTE the
> virus code for>anything to happen and commands like DIR, COPY, REN,
> VOL etc. do NOT execute >any code not found in COMMAND.COM.IMHO, that
> would be a bad bet!  Here's something to think about... I'm not a
> programmer, but that brought back yet another relevant memory from my
> BBS sysop days.If ansi.com is already being used on a DOS based
> computer, just getting a text file attachment and viewing it could be
> deadly.  It could redefine the "D" key to mean "del c:"In this case,
> one wouldn't even have to _finish_ typing "dir a:" to activate the
> damage!Cheers!John Vander StelGrand Rapids, Michigan
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That is exactly the problem though. you no longer have to be
especially smart to write a virus. Anyone with a visual basic book
and abut 1 day can hack together a VB script virus. Even easier
you can take one the the last dozen, change a few lines and make
your own version, that is exactly what has happened the last few
days. Thanks to MS any idiot can bring down half the world. Maybe
they should change their logo to "Where do you want to crash
today..."

Pete

On 10 May 2000, at 8:15, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My guess is that we soon will get the news that it was not a guy in
> Philippines. Simply because in my saved Virus file I can clearly track
> from whom it came from (Ok I am in Singapore, but..). Despite the fact
> that it's easy to "infect" M$, A "normal smart" IT guy does not put
> out so clear "tracks" if he wants to infect the world- or maybe he is
> plain stupid....
>
> Jorgen
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Martin Bergvill wrote:

> You got my "hidden" message :-) Maybe we should create a FAQ/info page
> for this list where we tell people how to behave..just a thought. Maybe
> Daniel can have it on his site with the Irdaphone Faq he is working
> on..

But this is not going to work. If people do not have an
internal desire to know, to pursue the information, to
learn, posting material for them will never be enough. Sure
they will read it, maybe even adopt some of the info, but
it is more of the same - spoon-feeding people who should be
- on their own initiative - be pursuing the information.

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Hello,

I'm hoping someone here will be able to help me.  I recently purchased a 20
meg PCMCIA card for my 100LX.  The darn thing won't format.  Admittedly I
am a novice to any system other than a Mac but I thought with the help of
the manual EVEN I could format a card.  If anyone could give me advice, I
sure would appreciate it.  I'm probably just doing something wrong.

The card is a 20 meg type II - and perfectly fits the PCMCIA port
The code on the card reads SM9FLATA20TIGT
The "manufacturer" is International Game Technology

I've tried the formatter in the filer program
I've tried 1K_Cluster to format it too

And I'm trying to format drive A (I think that is the correct drive)

Thanks in advance!

-Kris Barnette
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
Subject: Re: Dir A: virus


> Where did the virus COME from though? If it was in the floppies
> directory structures it would not do any good and it would be
> overwritten very easily, I don't see any virus writer being that
dumb.
> I sure would like to see that one, you don't happen to remember
> what NAV identified it as do you? Of course there is always the
> chance that it was a misidentification, especially given the
location.
> I have a current version of McAfee that constantly identifies two
> parts of Oracle's client as virus droppers, of course they are not
> and when I upgraded the McAfee program itself it quit identifying
> them.

The virus came from the boot sector of the floppy disk.  The floppy
was infected.  If they had booted on it the computer might have been
infected also.  But they didn't.  They simply typed DIR A: and the
computer read the boot sector, virus and all, into memory to see how
the drive was formatted.  But it read it in as data, not as
something to be executed.  Unless they booted on it.

Barry

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> After thinking about this a few minutes I think what you are
> describing is more a bug in the NAV program than an actual virus
> infection. Granted that the virus code may have ended up in the
> memory of the system, even though I can't figure out why it would
> be where it was, it was not in a position to be executed. There
are
> areas of memory that programs like NAV should ignore since there
> is no possible way that the code could get executed and this
> sounds like one case. It would be interesting to know if later
> versions of NAV respond the same. I have a current version of
> McAfee that constantly complains about two programs that are
> part of Oracle client, it thinks they are virus droppers. When I
> upgraded the CODE, not the defs, it quit complaining.

I don't think this is a bug in NAV.  It examined memory and found a
virus and reported it.  Much of memory is dynamically allocated and
the contents aren't removed when it's de-allocated.  There's no real
way NAV could know what this area had been used for last.

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Microsoft is not the evil one, it's the lack of morality in the general
populace.  Computer virus's and or software don't kill computer systems,
PEOPLE THAT WRITE THEM DO!

As an avid palmtopper I can somewhat understand the bias against MS.  On the
other hand, as long as I keep current with MS software and keep my big box
up to date, (anyone on this list has to admit seeking the Holy Grail in
hardware and software is fun) my time is more productive.  In this "computer
age" nothing stands still.  As computers become more prevalent in society,
society wins.  We can't expect the average individual to learn DOS and
accept what we deem necessary for efficient computer use.  We will have no
choice but to eventually comply with what society defines as a computer
system.

Will I give up my 200LX?  NO!  But at least as a proficient 200LX operator I
can see the problem.  It's obvious, the same people that can't figure out
they should not open up a VBS attachment are the majority of the computer
users in our world.  The next step will probably be massive regulation to
control the problem and protect the ignorant masses.  Gun control translated
to the cyber world.  And the real problem is not in the hardware or the
software, it's in the PEOPLE, THE USERS!

Rant mode off, back to lurk,

Colin

That is exactly the problem though. you no longer have to be
especially smart to write a virus. Anyone with a visual basic book
and abut 1 day can hack together a VB script virus. Even easier
you can take one the the last dozen, change a few lines and make
your own version, that is exactly what has happened the last few
days. Thanks to MS any idiot can bring down half the world. Maybe
they should change their logo to "Where do you want to crash
today..."

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Kris Barnette wrote:
>The card is a 20 meg type II - and perfectly fits the PCMCIA port
>The code on the card reads SM9FLATA20TIGT
>The "manufacturer" is International Game Technology
>I've tried the formatter in the filer program
>I've tried 1K_Cluster to format it too
>And I'm trying to format drive A (I think that is the correct drive)

I don't know what's wrong Kris, but I have the exact same card and it
works just fine. I can't remember if I ever formatted it though.

I know this ain't much help, but at least you know the card should
work in the LX.

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Comments: cc: krisb@MEGSINET.NET

   >I'm hoping someone here will be able to help me.  I recently
   >purchased a 20 meg PCMCIA card for my 100LX.  The darn thing won't
   >format.  Admittedly I am a novice to any system other than a Mac
   >but I thought with the help of the manual EVEN I could format a
   >card.  If anyone could give me advice, I sure would appreciate it.
   >I'm probably just doing something wrong.
   >The card is a 20 meg type II - and perfectly fits the PCMCIA port
   >The code on the card reads SM9FLATA20TIGT
   >The "manufacturer" is International Game Technology
   >I've tried the formatter in the filer program
   >I've tried 1K_Cluster to format it too
   >And I'm trying to format drive A (I think that is the correct drive)
Message-Id: <20000510040650.TSYR27191.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.93¨>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 04:06:55 +0000


I don't have a 100LX, but on the 200LX, you can do d:\bin\fdisk100 to
reinitialize the card BEFORE you format it.  We do it so infrequently that
most of us forget... plus some cards come already properly initialized
and never need this step.

- Longden


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Hi to all,

I just need to clear some stock that has been in hand for a long time, I hope that you all
may pass on the information to whomever may be interested too. Thanks!

HP200LX 1Meg basic unit (battery consumption is a little high, I don't know why) and
used leather bag

HP660LX 32Meg model with normal and extended battery, leather bag, adapter and
docking station.

NEW Sharp 4600 16Meg model without serial cable, manuals and CDrom.

2 pieces Psion s5 8Meg model, one with Printer cable, full manuals and CD and
everything.

Palm Professional 1Meg with intermittent display fault, can be remedied by pressing
sides together. full package with CD and docking station.

EXP 14.4 Modem with 4Meg Flash

10 Engraving Plates for 100/200LX

15 200LX Manuals

5 100LX Manuals

Thanks for all the help! I would really appreciate it if you can forward this list to any other
relevant pple or lists. Thanks.

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dmb10@SWBELL.NET asked

>>does it ÝGDBWIN¨allow you to create files as well on the desktop, or only
work with
files that were originially created on the 200LX?
<<
Yes.

.ed.

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Leland,

> The screen is either blank or has horizontal lines.  The software is still
> running.  Any clues what is going on?

Most likely you have a memory issue with your SC swap file.

Go into the setup program for SC and record your memory settings per
session. Then go to Lotus 1-2-3 and open the sizer.wk1 file which was
shipped with SC7. It will calculate the proper size of the swap file
for SC. Go back to SC setup and enter this swap file requirement. Save
and exit SC-setup. Reboot your machine and you should be set. You need
to have enough memory availlable on disk of course.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Here is a repeat of some notes I've collected (in two parts)

Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 340 Printer
Date:    Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:32:58 +0200
From:    Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>

Printersetup for 200LX DOS editors/word processors (PE, WORD,
HPP) and for IR Lotus printing

1. TO PRINT FROM DOS VIA SHIER CABLE TO THE POCKET JET:

The following command ONLY has to be
(1) executed from the command line or has to be
(2) contained in the SC startup commands list or to
(3) run as a batch file (C:\PJON.BAT):
to power up the serial port Com1:

c:\lxstat S W

The Batch file PJON.BAT (for Pocket Jet ON) looks as follows:

rem C:\PJOFF.BAT (Batch file to ENABLE DOS printing via cable to
Pocket Jet)

c:\lxstat s w

To power down, run PJOFF.BAT as follows:

rem C:\PJOFF.BAT (Batch file to DISABLE DOS printing via cable
to Pocket Jet)

c:\lxstat s o

2. TO PRINT FROM DOS VIA INFRARED PORT TO THE HP6MP LASER JET:

The following series of commands has to be

(1) executed from the command line or has to be
(2) contained in the SC startup commands list or
(3) to be run as a batch file (C:\IRON.BAT):

d:\dos\mode com1:96,n,8,1,p (to set Com1 parameters)
d:\dos\mode lpt1:=com1:     (to reroute printer output to Com1)
c:\irjeteye.com com1        (to enable DOS Irda driver for Com1)
c:\lxstat S W               (to power up the serial port Com1)
c:\lxstat S I               (to power up the infrared port)

The Batch file IRON.BAT looks as follows:

rem IRON.bat (Batch file to ENABLE IR DOS printing to HP6MP)

d:\dos mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
d:\dos\mode lpt1:=com1:
c:\irjeteye.com com1
c:\lxstat s w
c:\lxstat s i
c:\lxstat

To power IR down, execute the Batch file IROFF.BAT:

rem IROFF.bat (Batch file to DISABLE IR DOS printing to HP6MP)
c:\jetutil -d
c:\lxstat s o
d:\dos\mode lpt1:

3. TO PRINT INFRARED FROM LOTUS (within SysMgr)

Nothing is needed but ld.bat in Autoexec.bat or in the Startup
command list for the SC Work Area where SysMgr is running.

Set Lotus to Ser. 2 IR mode via:

WORKSHEET/GLOBAL/DEFAULT/PRINTER/INT/4

Do not forget to UPDATE these settings, otherwise you are
stuck again next time. The problem is probably there.

NOTE: Printing Infrared with LOTUS starts only several seconds
after giving the GO command. Initially nothing happens and
it falsely seems that printing has failed, be patient.

For better reading, go into edit mode to get correct
formatting of paragraphs. I hope I got everything right, this
computing world is very mysterious !

For cable-linked printers powering the Com1 port up is
sufficient, the other three commands are for IR printing.

(Stefan, still experimenting with LXPRO to save power by
powering the ports according to need).

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Date:         Tue, 9 May 2000 22:57:45 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Subject:      IrDA drivers for 200LX Part 2
Comments: To: Doug Anderson <deanderson@OAKLANDNET.COM>
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I have tried out drivers with the following results:

MEMO:

Use Internal Printer drivers set to Proprinter ONLY, otherwise
no Umlauts are printed.

Set Printer Parameters via MEMO/FILE/PRINT/SETUP

PE:

Use Internal Printer drivers

All 3 drivers can be used if no parameters are set. Printer
Parameters can be set via the POCKETJT.EXE parameter program
(shell to DOS) . Then ONLY the internal HPLaserJet driver can be
used.

Also, to make POCKETJT.EXE work, the parallel port has to be
rerouted to Com1 (D:\DOS\MODE LPTl=COMl), otherwise POCKETJT.EXE
will not run.

WORD:

Use WORD drivers HP3.PRD or TTY.PRD ONLY. With drivers
DICONIX.prd, EPSONFX.prd and IBMPRO.PRD the printer simply
stops.

Set Printer Parameters via WORD Menu ALT+Format

Winfried
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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 00:11:35 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<That is exactly the problem though. you no longer have to be
especially smart to write a virus. Anyone with a visual basic book
and abut 1 day can hack together a VB script virus. Even easier
you can take one the the last dozen, change a few lines and make
your own version, that is exactly what has happened the last few
days. Thanks to MS any idiot can bring down half the world. Maybe
they should change their logo to "Where do you want to crash
today...">>>>

The real danger here, I think, is that people will look to the
government to "solve" this problem and that Congress might really
start feeling pressure to regulate the internet.  In the past,
Congress has tried to maintain a hands off posture, but this virus,
or the next one, could change that.  There's just so much money
involved now.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 00:30:01 +0500
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From:         David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com
MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-05-01 Domingo said:
   >Sure.  What would yo like to know?  Recent posts give a
   >description of InfoSelect's main functions.  To them I would
   >add that InfoSelect can be used as a TSR, it can copy the
   >entire foreground screen (but not part of it), it can paste
   >any number of its note windows into the foreground program,
   >and a utility it comes with allows it to only take 7k of
   >main memory as a TSR.  Searching inside large notes is very
   >fast, and  Find and Replace is pretty powerful (it lets you
   >search and replace hard returns and extended ASCII characters.

Thanks for this listing of its capabilities.  Is Infoselect still available
as shareware for DOS?  I saw their website, but only found Windows versions
listed there.



Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 00:30:10 +0500
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Subject:      Re: chess
Comments: To: ted@nicar.org
MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-05-02 Ted Peterson said:
   >I prefer Chessmaster 2000 vs. 1.0, but I'd be interested in finding
   >something better (I'm trying to get ahold of Fritz 2.0 from
   >Chessbase).  The black and white colors are reversed on most of the
   >chess programs that I've tried on my palmtop.
   >Does anybody know if there is a utility to invert black/white CGA
   >graphics for the palmtop?  Thanks.

CGAHLP, on the Super site, should do the trick.  I use it to invert
black/white CGA graphics.

Here is its description:
CGAHLP changes the colors of a CGA screen to make it easier for you to view
color programs on the palmtop's monochrome screen. Colors are changed
automatically to make the screen clearer. Works only with CGA text modes.
Help is available in Japanese and English. Copyrighted freeware.


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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 00:30:23 +0500
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From:         David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject:      Source of new 200LX-700LXs
Comments: cc: KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA
MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-05-08 Donald Klopper said:
   >I paid R1000 ($143) for my 700LX
   >NEW (well it was old stock but they're UNUSED !!!).
   >(I think there are more available if anyone's interested - they can
   >be couriered from South Africa to the US or wherever).
   >I actually wanted the 200LX (esp the doublespeed one maybe with a
   >backlight), but at the price I could not resist it!
   >WAY TO GO LX!

I would be greatly interested.  What is the company selling these, pray
tell?


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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 08:45:20 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

On Mon, 8 May 2000 16:48:54 -0400, D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> For printing from DOS applications, have your program print to com1
> (or use the MODE command to redirect).  LXPRO should help with that

I made the experience, that I can also print to LPT1 and it works -
even without any MODE redirection. It must be something like a
hard-wired redirection (or maybe the BIOS services do that?). This is
very good for compatibility with programs that can't print to COM
ports.

Using the port 'PRN' also always seems to work.

Does anyone know how this redirection is made in the palmtop?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 10:55:29 MEST
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From:         Stephan G=?ISO-8859-1?B?9mxkaQ==?= <webdesign@GOELDI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dir A: virus
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>> What was happening was that the virus which did exist on the floppy,
>> was being read into the DTA when the DIR command was run.  It was in
>> memory.  But of course it was no threat.  Rebooting would get rid of
>> it.  Today, tommorrow, the next day, whenever.  Even DIRing another
>> floppy disk would get rid of it.  That's what I did to convince them
>> it was no threat.  There was no realisitic way that virus could be
>> activated.

And what if the virus is in the DTA, and you run the SYS or the FORMAT program
while it's in the DTA?

-goe-

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              Darren Frick <dfrick@ALTAVISTA.COM>
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On Tue, 09 May 2000, David Ball wrote:

>    >chess programs that I've tried on my palmtop.
>    >Does anybody know if there is a utility to invert black/white CGA
>    >graphics for the palmtop?  Thanks.
>
> CGAHLP, on the Super site, should do the trick.  I use it to invert

To invert the CGA screen on the LX, hold the On key and press "/".
Needed for most chess programmes.
BTW, I like Psion chess. Can be found on the WEB, Can't be bought that I know of. Abandonware?

Darren.


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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 13:22:48 MEST
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From:         Stephan G=?ISO-8859-1?B?9mxkaQ==?= <webdesign@GOELDI.COM>
Subject:      Re: The "Microsoft" Way!
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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>But this is not going to work. If people do not have an
>internal desire to know, to pursue the information, to
>learn, posting material for them will never be enough. Sure
>they will read it, maybe even adopt some of the info, but
>it is more of the same - spoon-feeding people who should be
>- on their own initiative - be pursuing the information.

Yep. I never ever read a license agreement. I simply hit the "I agree"-button
..

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 06:39:17 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rex-3 Project?????
In-Reply-To:  <LPBBLJKHEKPIFHBINHPDAENMCLAA.hugo@hexaway.com> from "Hugo
              Normand" at May 09, 2000 07:16:15 PM
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> Anyone know where the Rex-3 -> HP200LX is going? try to e-mail Chris Lott,
> but he had never answered my e-mail.


Hugo:

I'm sorry if I missed your e-mail.  I was on vacation last week, and
glossed over a few hundred e-mails when I got back.  I will add your
name to my list of people interested in the REX project, and will send
you my latest project status which I send out earlier in the week.
Again, sorry to have missed your message.

-Chris



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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 14:47:29 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 9 May 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> But this is not going to work. If people do not have an
> internal desire to know, to pursue the information, to
> learn, posting material for them will never be enough. Sure
> they will read it, maybe even adopt some of the info, but
> it is more of the same - spoon-feeding people who should be
> - on their own initiative - be pursuing the information.

I agree it's not going to work, but not because people do not know (or do
not want to know) - they do know, but simply don't bother using the extra
few seconds it takes to trim a quoted message...


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 09:03:50 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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              (#2000-168)
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> Date:    Tue, 9 May 2000 10:11:22 -0500
> From:    Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
> Subject: Re: GPS and map program
>
> > GPSCGA, LX-GPS and DLG Viewer are on the Super Site.
> > http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html. If you don't already have a GPS
> > with a serial out capability, I'd buy a dedicated GPS with moving map
> > software instead, and not have to muck about with the cables. The
> > displays are about the same size as the 200's, and the maps are
either in
> > ROM or downloadable from CD. They also have backlighting.
>
> I thought about this approach once I became interested in GPS
> recently. Since they turned SA off I thought how neat it would be to
> have a unit with the maps built in and actually see where I was going
> around town and on trips.
>
> The reason I didn't go that route was that I have a 200LX, a Jornada
> 680, a Palm V, and Laptop and since the serial Earthmate version was
> so much cheaper and I already had several other platforms that could
> talk to it then I felt that was the best decision. The price was also
> significantly lower than the stand alone unit and I can place the
> Earthmate away from the viewing platform for better results.
>

It all depends on how you're going to use it . . . Mine's usually
connected to the laptop and either SA or Streets in the car - but it's
nice to have one you can carry around hiking, etc. I do have a TripMate
living in one car along with the AC inverter. The proprietary GPS
receivers (Earthmate/Tripmate, Rand-McNally, Sony) are less likely to be
amenable to changes in mapping systems. With R/M Street Finder, I need to
reprogram the NMEA signal set on my Eagle GPS from what SA & Streets use.
Their dedicated GPS receiver would similarly need to be feeding that
specific signal set. Likewise, TripMate requires a special signal reply
to activate it (which *is* being provided by some third-party systems,
still . . . ). I have no direct experience with R/M's receiver, so my
comment is based on what I found necessary to use a generic GPS with it.
I likewise have no experience with Sony's receiver or software, so I
merely conjure that they're likely to be proprietary in some way. The
extra bucks give a measure of flexibility and convenience.

Jon

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 14:28:52 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Subject:      XFS via infrared
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Can anybody confirm/deny that the new X-Finder Server (XFS) 11 Beta works with
Thaddeus' Aegis IR-HP5 serial-to-infrared adapter?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 20:41:35 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
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Hi LXers,

I am experiencing a strange phenomenon from yesterday: while
typing on my HPLX the loudspeaker makes some clicking sounds
as a response to touching a key, though not continuously..
What is going on, any ideas ?

Thank you very much
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 11:53:09 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Strange noises from the loudspeaker while typing
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You're not running CLICK from the SUPER site?  (utility that enables keyboard
sounds).

- Longden





Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES> on 05/10/2000 11:41:35 AM

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Subject:  Strange noises from the loudspeaker while typing




Hi LXers,

I am experiencing a strange phenomenon from yesterday: while
typing on my HPLX the loudspeaker makes some clicking sounds
as a response to touching a key, though not continuously..
What is going on, any ideas ?

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 15:15:58 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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You may be referiing to the click that happens on some keys when there's
dirt in the key.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Ýmailto:wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES¨
>Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 2:42 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Strange noises from the loudspeaker while typing
>
>
>Hi LXers,
>
>I am experiencing a strange phenomenon from yesterday: while
>typing on my HPLX the loudspeaker makes some clicking sounds
>as a response to touching a key, though not continuously..
>What is going on, any ideas ?
>
>Thank you very much
>Winfried
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 19:42:42 +0000
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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Mark,

I'm using WWW/LX to connect to Demon. If you decide to use it
instead, I can send you my logon script.

----------

Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)


On Tue, 9 May 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> anyone using dosppp/lxtcp to connect to demon internet (uk service
> provider)?
>
> could do with some pointers
>
> thanks

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 19:42:44 +0000
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Subject:      Borland C++ Compiler
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I don't remember seeing anyone note this here, but on April
14th Borland started to allow free downloads of their C++
compiler v1.01 as they had done previously with Turbo C
v2.01.

Go to Borland's community site (http://community.borland.com)
and follow the museum link. You need to register.

Don't see why it shouldn't work on the LX.
I'm off to try it out!

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 16:05:05 -0400
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Nothing would happen since the first thing sys or format /s do is
read the system files from the boot device. They do not use
anything that is in memory, you have to have the io.sys and
msdos.sys files resident on the device that booted the computer
sys or format /s to work. I am familiar with this problem since we
have remote booted computers and they won't normally run sys
since they think that they booted from A:, used to cause all sorts
of problems.

Pete

On 10 May 2000, at 10:55, Stephan G=F6ldi wrote:

> >> What was happening was that the virus which did exist on the
> >> floppy, was being read into the DTA when the DIR command was run.
> >> It was in memory.  But of course it was no threat.  Rebooting would
> >> get rid of it.  Today, tommorrow, the next day, whenever.  Even
> >> DIRing another floppy disk would get rid of it.  That's what I did
> >> to convince them it was no threat.  There was no realisitic way
> >> that virus could be activated.
>
> And what if the virus is in the DTA, and you run the SYS or the FORMAT
> program while it's in the DTA?
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 15:53:00 -0500
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Well, I was successful in getting a PCMCIA serial card to work in
my palmtop.  I don't know if the 25mA exceeds the recommended draw, but
it worked during a brief experiment.  If in fact 25mA is too large
a current for the 200LX, then I noted that Socket sells a similar card
that only draws 13mA operational.

It shows up as COM2, just as if you had plugged in a
modem card.  So, if you need two com ports on your palmtop, this
is a potential solution.  (My main need for this item is my laptop
computer, but it's handy to have for the palmtop, too).

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 15:07:59 -0700
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DLG Viewer mentioned in another message can import maps
from USGS DLG map and Tiger map.  By using these maps,
you are assured of accuracy to pixel level every where on the
map.  By using only two points to calibrate the map, you are
assuming the map is using rectengular co-ordinate, which may
not always be the case.

Alfred

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Sent:   Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:55 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: GPS and map program

Lionel Silva asks about a moving map solution for the LX...

There is a very good solution, but it all revolves around
procuring a high quality, monochrome map with two points
(widely spaced) of known lat/long in .pcx format.

Briefly, it requires the following parts

1.  200LX
2.  LXGPS software (on SUPER site)
3.  Connectivity cable to LX
4.  Connectivity cable to GPS
5.  GPS of almost any flavor (mine is Garmin III+)

It is assumed that you have the map file on your 200LX.
The LXGPS software will allow you to calibrate the map
with your two known points.  The software can interpolate
all other points on the map.  Then you just connect the
LX to the GPS and the GPS tells the LX its current position
all the time.  The software will scroll along, dropping a
(configurable) breadcrumb trail of where you have been.  It
will mark waypoints and do a variety of GPS type tasks.

As I said, the real challenge is procuring the maps.  What
you need is a graphics editor which can save images in
B&W (2 bit) .pcx images.  I use all variety of map programs
(mostly Delorme, but you can capture any displayed map
images using the ALT-PRINTSCREEN key to copy onto the
clipboard.  I use the latter method to transfer DRG maps
from the USGS to .pcx files.  With Delorme maps you
can copy directly to the clipboard, but they come
out better if you change the color configuration files
(color.tbl) to a monochromatic scheme.

Someone wrote an article for the Palmtop Paper in the last
couple of years explaining the whole process pretty well.
I never actaully saw the article, though.

Dennis Bell
Seattle

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 19:32:32 -0400
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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Avi,
  You it the target dead center!! I work for the State of Georgia.
During the Y2K scare, teams of people were gathered with the sole
mission of researching solutions to the antiquated software then used.
What they came up with now requires more man power to maintain. The
solution is a LAN with Win95 work stations. Everything runs under the
Win95 OS on resource deficient (little RAM) Compaq Pentium II 300 mHz or
better boxes, not much better I might add. The applications frequently
crash. One of the applications used to bill patient accounts in pharmacy
hasn't billed a single client on one of the treatment units since
November 1999. Yet everyone is thrilled with the much more colorful
Windoze screens. They have bought the entire concept that these bad
tools are what they want. They would rather fiddle with this software,
which is not even supported by the vendor,  than think creatively to
develop applications that work. Only the Governor knows just how many
programmers are employed by the state. There must be an army of them.
  To suggest an alternative is to become ostracized by ones piers,
essentially to become the null voice of the team. Yes is the only answer
they take. I for one don't like to prostitute myself to lend support to
clunky, resource hungry software that crashes and doesn't function for
that which it is designed. I have always felt that my responsibility to
my employer is to tell the truth, as I see it, whether they want to hear
it or not. I always explain, humbly (I hate arrogance), that the
information I provide is just my opinion, bases on the facts at hand for
them to use in making their decisions base perhaps in part on the
importance they place on my information.
 The current environment doesn't allow this. One must almost be a highly
paid parrot of the accepted opinion. This is crazy! I could understand
it if there seemed to be something favorable being developed, but this
doesn't seem to be the case. It now takes more people to police the
billing; the inventory is maintained by more staff with a level of
scrutiny that I have never seen and this doesn't seem to help much. This
takes away from the primary mission of the place, which is to provide
health care. Just a thought, maybe this is one thing contributing to
escalation of health care cost.
  The people I work for have a blind eye to simplicity of form and
function. If there ever was a group that could complicate things, here
is a huge nest of them. I like your reference to 1984 and Soylent Green.
This is surely a case of accepting what is being force fed, and to think
that it doesn't taste as good <g>.

William E. Blankenship


~~---Snip, Snip--~~

> To me the worst part is when I see people _accepting_ bad
> programs, bad tools, stupid ways to work - they accept
> these as a given. This has less to do with MS than with the
> cultural milieu we live in: People simply have no use for
> their brains, they have no use for questioning, for
> investigating, for being unhappy with something and wanting
> to change it. We all parade in the "acceptable,
> predermined" paths. Frankly, all these people worry me
> because I read 1984 and that is exactly where they all go.
> I also saw Soylent Green (if you do not know what these two
> names mean, please investigate on the Internet!) I am
> scared that _my_ future will be filled with zombies!
>
>   Avi

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Date:         Wed, 10 May 2000 17:02:42 -0700
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              Available.
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Hi Tim, I got your email and sent this message to your responding to your request
the other day for (1) 48 Meg  Compact flsh disk  but I have not heard back from
you as yet. Can you please email me back and let me know when are actually
sending payment so I can hold your disk for you.   Thanks again!    Scott

Scott wrote:

> Hi Tim, I just got your email and it's nice to meet you. Yes! I still do have
> the 48 Meg Compact flash name brand Simple Technologies disks available.  No
> problem, I will hold one for you. I sell (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk for
> $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. You can send payment of money
> order only  to my address at:
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> I will email you back Tim, the  very same day I receive your payment and let
> you know that your disk is on the way. Just please email me back and let me
> know when you have actually sent payment so I can be expecting it and also
> send me your full mailing address that you would like your disk sent to.
> Thanks again!   Scott
>
> Tim D Devine wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
> > To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 9:05 AM
> > Subject: Compact Flash disks, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are
> > Available.
> >
> > > I have  (2) 48 Meg Compact Flash name Brand Simple Technologies disk
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> >     I will buy one 48 meg compact flash.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > available. These disks are in excellent condition and have hardly been
> > > used except to test a customer's new product at work. I am selling them
> > > for $75.00 a piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have
> > > (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am selling this disk
> > > for $120.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I still have (5) 20
> > > Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell  (1) 20 Meg
> > > disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20
> > > Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If are only interested in
> > > name brand Sandisks,, then I have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks available
> > > as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for
> > > shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus
> > > $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment
> > > to my address at:
> > >
> > > Scott Moore
> > > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> > > Beaverton, Or 97006
> > >
> > > I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
> > > you know that you disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out the
> > > very next day unless I receive your payment on A Saturday and then they
> > > will go out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place
> > > them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are
> > > interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or
> > > (disks) for you. The response so far has been really great and the
> > > people I have worked with have been just terrific!   Thanks alot!
> > > Scott
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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 00:24:22 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: SM9FLATA20 Flash won't format on 100LX - help!
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> Hello,
>
> I'm hoping someone here will be able to help me.  I recently purchased a 20
> meg PCMCIA card for my 100LX.  The darn thing won't format.

One other thing to what the others have suggested, the HP100 has
slightly different, older flashcard support and some cards in the 100
need an Ace driver.  And to be honest, I've never know which cards or if
it is solely a size issue.

And you could also play a game - go to a win-ce store, try the card in
that device (altho, power might be too much as win-ce uses newer, lower
power cards and it may offer to format.  Or try it in someone's laptop
and format there????

Good luck

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 00:24:31 +0000
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Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
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> Thanks for this listing of its capabilities.  Is Infoselect still available
> as shareware for DOS?  I saw their website, but only found Windows versions
> listed there.

I think they still sell the dos version and it contains an insert or
manual text on the hp use.  Call them and inquire if the web site is not
clear.

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 00:24:41 +0000
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> you my latest project status which I send out earlier in the week.
> Again, sorry to have missed your message.

Might you post the status here, occasionally.  I'm interested in
occasional updates (G)

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I've tested and it worked all right on the 200LX. But, there is a little problem
in the installation disks. I tried installing from diskettes but failed during
disk #2. What I did was copy all the files from disk #1 to disk #4 onto a
temporary directory and install from there. I wonder if the original commercial
disks are also having this problem?

Leong

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Author: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date:       5/11/2000 3:42 AM

I don't remember seeing anyone note this here, but on April
14th Borland started to allow free downloads of their C++
compiler v1.01 as they had done previously with Turbo C
v2.01.

Go to Borland's community site (http://community.borland.com)
and follow the museum link. You need to register.

Don't see why it shouldn't work on the LX.
I'm off to try it out!

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From:         John Edward Miller <jem@MILLEREDP.COM>
Subject:      IMAP client?
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I just swapped my battered 1MB unit for a 2MB unit that'll get upgraded
further in the near future, and managed to get the various TCP/IP
networking bits running on it.

I've used my 200LX for terminal-access to email through Datacomm in the
past, and telnet access is possible, but ideally I'd like to have a decent
IMAP client on the thing that would support at least limited disconnected
use - this'd save me from having to sling a notebook around here and there.
POP is not an option.

Basic requirements:

- Download mailbox message headers (unseen/unread/all) - display sender,
subject, message size, and whether a plain-text-readable message body part
exists.

- Auto-download of unseen message bodies (configurable to get only messages
< specified size with a text-format message body.)

- Mark one or more message headers for download, and process downloading of
the marked message bodies.

- Compose replies and queue for SMTP sending.

- Move messages between mailboxes, delete messages, expunge mailbox.

This would cover 90% of my mail-reading requirements, and for brief trips I
can live without the other 10%.

I've got LXMTA running but its IMAP support is very, very limited - and
with the volume of new mail I get downloading all unseen message bodies is
not going to work.

Is there anything else out there, or do I need to find my old Borland C 2.0
floppies (and find something with a 5.25 floppy drive to read them...) and
start working through the LXMTA source?

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Hi, all - My ISP messed me up from this last Saturday at about 21:00
(PST) to 14:40 Sunday - received NO posts from the list in that time -
If anyone has a set of those (2 Digests or just regular posts) I'd love
to get a set!

Thanks in advance.

  Mark

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 09:08:30 +0100
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what we need is pine for the palmtop!!

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Longden, Ed,

Thanks for the advice. I do not use CLICK and it is not the
broken keys (the t-key and the v-key are indeed cracking, I
will put some glue on them). It seems to be the loudspeaker on
the bottom left side. It clicks not continuously at every key
push, but sometimes 4 times in a row, sometimes just once in a
while. Might it be the pressure that makes some contacts join
down there ? Mack, do you listen ? Is it a ghost ?

Regards
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Ruminating about Longden's advice concerning CLICK I found
that the noise is produced by QUICK/LX that I had installed
yesterday. The programme suggests the completion of the
remainder of a word with a click. I have silenced the ghost
with command line option /b. A still greater piece of software!

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 09:04:06 -0400
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Hmm . . .  I just checked their site, and all references to
the DOS version have disappeared (except for some old
support FAQs). The references were there a little over a
month ago, when I was looking into InfoSelect for the Palm.
Try contacting them and see what they say.  By the way,
InfoSelect never was shareware, but if they are not going to
sell it, it ought to be freeware.

Domingo

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From: David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 9, 2000 7:30:01 PM GMT
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?


Thanks for this listing of its capabilities.  Is Infoselect
still available as shareware for DOS?  I saw their website,
but only found Windows versions listed there.

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Thu, 11 May 2000 08:26:07 -0500 (EST)

Hey Mark:

   I keep a months worth of archives on the HPLX-L Command Center
   http://list.hplx.net ...link is near bottom of page.

   Cheers...AJKind



07h19m30s ago ...
On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mark Willis wrote:

> Hi, all - My ISP messed me up from this last Saturday at about 21:00
> (PST) to 14:40 Sunday - received NO posts from the list in that time -
> If anyone has a set of those (2 Digests or just regular posts) I'd love
> to get a set!
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   Mark
>
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Peniel, Fred,

thank you for raising this issue.

I used this feature connected to the network with an ACCTON network
card.

It works flawless and fast.

Also I like to thank you Peniel for being patient with, also thank you
for your help.

Kind regards

Helmuth


Peniel Romanelli,
> Sat,  6 May 2000 17:20:09 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hi again, Fred --
>
> 01h33s ago ...
> On Sat,  6 May 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > The following lines copy/sync-ed the a: and then c: with a directory =
on
> > my desktop system:
> >
> >  cp 210 . a:\  *d:\100\a2\
> >  cp 210 . c:\ *d:\100\c\
> >
> > Is there a way I can FIX these commands into xfinder like a macro or
> > similar (I'm sure there is!!!!)?  So that I don't have to type (or
> > mis-type) then?  THANKS.
>
> Yep, and it's simple.  Just use your favorite editor to type each line
> as a separate file, and save it with your choice of name, and either
> XFE or XFM suffix.  They're pretty much the same except XFM asks for
> confirmation.  The palmtop screen setup that comes with XF already has
> it set up using a desktop directory defined in the .env (the %$
> parameter).  These XFE or XFM files can put in your palmtop
> subdirectory (or other launch directory), be given icons and launched
> like anything else.
>
> > Oh, one other thing (yeah, just ONE other thing (G)), is there an
> > EXCLUDE type command for COPY???  So that I don't keep copying my =
tremm
> > file or other large "swap" files that change - hmmm, maybe this swap
> > file does not change date and is not affected?????  I guess I don't =
have
> > an SC swap file at the moment.
>
> Don't think so, but what I did with my internal c: to a: backup is to
> create a dummy tremm.swp file with a date sometime next year, so with
> copy set to update it doesn't get overwritten by the real 2MB file.
>
> > But where can one find this beta?
>
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/beta/xf/index.htm
>
> > And are you re-opening the Peniel Tutorial Classroom for Xfinder? (G)
>
> Kinda looks like it   8->>
>
> Peniel
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Date:    Wed, 10 May 2000 19:42:44 +0000
From:    Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Borland C++ Compiler

<<<I don't remember seeing anyone note this here, but on April
14th Borland started to allow free downloads of their C++
compiler v1.01 as they had done previously with Turbo C
v2.01.>>>

It works fine for me on the 200lx as long as I use the command line
tools and don't use the IDE.  Actually the IDE will work too, but it
locks up pretty soon if you try to use it to debug programs.

I use the command line compiler and use Microsoft's Symdeb as my
debugger.  Symdeb will handle switches to and from graphics mode
nicely and will also let you debug symbolically and even do source
level debugging in a crude way.  It's not a bad tool.  You also need
the accompanying MapSym to get translate the map file into symbol
information.

It's intended for Masm and MS C but it works just fine with TC and
BC.

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Howdy everyone :-)

Thanks to all for your comments (individual replies sent; Anyone I have missed
pls let me know) regarding advice on upgrade to 100/200 as per my last posting.
All very informative.  My next question is as follows: Assuming I continue to
use the HP95LX, is there any way of improving performance? i.e. speed-up by
changing clock etc.  I had thought about making the oscillator go faster but
then what happens to timing etc?  Also does anyone have any experience of adding
more memory to the motherboard and what drivers are required to access? I
remember a L-O-N-G time ago adding some memory chips in parallel to an XT
extension board and volia! Instant more memory!

Any and all comments (type of chip, drivers etc.) eagerly awaited <grin> but
until then, KEEP SMILING :-)

Nigel R (in sunny South Africa with an ancient HP95LX!)

P.S.  When I've done with it (the 95) would you believe there is a member of the
LX community out there (name withheld to protect the innocent!) who has offered
to purchase from me!!
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David Ball wrote:
>On 2000-05-03 Russ said:
>   >Like Ulrich I too work for IBM.   At times the Tiny editor has been
>   >on publicly accessible sites although the doc makes it sound as if
>   >you needed to be an OS/2 user.  I remember it being available on
>   >the old BBS system run by IBM supporting early pcs, available for
>   >download by anyone.
>
> Thanks for this information.  I'll keep looking for this program and see if
> I can find it.

ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/tinyed.zip

Netscape had problems with this URL, but FTP worked.
For a tiny editor it seems to have a large number of
features.  Includes both DOS and OS/2 versions.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

hello PGP specialists,

I have installed PGP for Win95 on my desktop and it works fine.
Now it happens sometimes that I receive encrypted mail on my
HP200. Is there any DOS PGP to decrypt my mail on the HP?
I know about  the old DOS version 2.3, but I think it is not useful in
my case.
My version 6.5 key is RSA type.

Werner



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For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who can
perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build one
to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something with a
handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The
rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object here is
to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD without
getting air bubbles under it.  Thus far, using a liquid like water with a
tiny amount of soap (dishwashing detergent like Dawn or Joy or something)
has proven very effective, the same way that people who install tinting on
car windows do it.  But a rubber roller is needed, really, to get the
adhesive snug up against the glass with no air bubbles at all.  So, can
anybody point me to a hobby shop or something that would sell a little
rubber roller like this?  Or does anybody have a brother, a grandma, a
friend, or anybody they know who could manufacture one, and would be
willing to do it really cheap?  In the end we'll probably need six
rollers, preferably all identical, for the people who will be installing
backlights.

Jeff Johns sent me a big sheet of ... neoprene rubber, I think it was.
And it works quite well for not scratching and being firm enough to press
out air bubbles, but it's just a thick, flat sheet, not a roller, so it's
not very easy to use.  So if anybody has any suggestions, pointers, URLs
to sites that sell rubber rollers like this, or anything at all, please
let me know, ASAP.  The sooner we get something that makes installation
easy and air-bubble-free, the sooner the beta testing period will be over
and the product will be offered.  And if I haven't been clear, or anybody
needs more details, don't hesitate to ask me.  Thanks for any help you all
can give ... and rewards will definitely be offered.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 14:38:48 -0700
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How about an artists supply store. I bought one at such a store some years
ago. Or photography store where they have photomounting supplies.

Mike Kopplin

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Mike's already mentioned art and photo shops.

More specifically, I've seen rollers like these used for inking printing blocks,
usually for hand printing ... so you may want to look in art and stationery
stores/office supplies.  Rubber rollers are usually about 3" wide, but it
probably varies, and about 1" in diameter, with a metal handle.

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 05/11/2000 02:35:10 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
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Subject:  Backlight project help needed: rubber roller





perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build one
to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something with a
handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The
rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film

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> handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The

Such rolles are or should be available at hardware, formica shops - they
are used to press the formica to the undersurface.

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Well folks it looks like it is finally happening. We will be buying around
4K Euro-English 200LX's from the Dutch Railway company!

We expect to receive the palmtops some time in August. It will be quite
expensive for us to make the purchase, and I would prefer to minimize our
loan from the bank.  Therefore, we have come up with an offer described
below and at www.palmtoppaper.com.

Fortunately, we also made two large buys of 10 Meg new (Compaq labeled) PC
cards (I believe manufactured by Sandisk but don't know yet for sure) and of
200LX connectivity cables (manufactured by the company that made them for
HP).  The Compaq cards were made for an earlier Windows CE device.

As an incentive, to have people prepay, we will be offering a 10 meg card
and a cable with each palmtop sold!

I don't know how long we will keep this offer, because I don't know yet when
we will have to pay for the palmtops. I expect the palmtops (certainly the
first 2K or so) to be in quite good condition -- and we refurbish them --
clean them up, tighten hinges, etc.  However, first come, first served in
terms of best palmtops.

We will be selling them as 2 meg, 5 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Mack cannot
find any chips he needs for 96 meg and has no immediate prospects).

For more details see www.palmtoppaper.com. To order, use the web site, mail
us, 110 N. Court, Fairfield, IA 52556, or call us, 800 373 6114, fax 515 472
1879. You can also email orders@thaddeus.com.

If you have questions, best to ask me here, as our phone folks won't know
more then what I just posted or is on our web site.

As to backlighting, you probably read David's post. We are inching forward.
However, as some of you surmised, June is probably a little optimistic.
Hopefully, backlighting will be ready by the time the units come.

Anyone who prepays for a palmtop and leaves us an email address will be
notified about backlighting before we send you your unit.  Note that we
can't provide pre-ordering of backlighting until we are sure it will be a
product and know when they will be ready. Realistically, if you want your
preordered unit backlit, it will probably be September before you receive
the unit because the process is so labor intensive.

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 18:05:42 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I've seen exactly what you're looking for in hardware and art stores....
Actually, I know exactly what you need! Printers (the tradesmen not the
machines) use them to spread ink on part of an offset printing press. It
looks like a miniature paint roller but instead of the roller part being a
fuzzy thing it's a rubber thing.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 5:35 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Backlight project help needed: rubber roller
>
>
>For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who can
>perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can
>build one
>to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
>actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just
>something with a
>handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75"
>wide.  The
>rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
>firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the
>object here is
>to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD without
>getting air bubbles under it.  Thus far, using a liquid like
>water with a
>tiny amount of soap (dishwashing detergent like Dawn or Joy or
>something)
>has proven very effective, the same way that people who
>install tinting on
>car windows do it.  But a rubber roller is needed, really, to get the
>adhesive snug up against the glass with no air bubbles at all.  So, can
>anybody point me to a hobby shop or something that would sell a little
>rubber roller like this?  Or does anybody have a brother, a grandma, a
>friend, or anybody they know who could manufacture one, and would be
>willing to do it really cheap?  In the end we'll probably need six
>rollers, preferably all identical, for the people who will be
>installing
>backlights.
>
>Jeff Johns sent me a big sheet of ... neoprene rubber, I think it was.
>And it works quite well for not scratching and being firm
>enough to press
>out air bubbles, but it's just a thick, flat sheet, not a
>roller, so it's
>not very easy to use.  So if anybody has any suggestions,
>pointers, URLs
>to sites that sell rubber rollers like this, or anything at all, please
>let me know, ASAP.  The sooner we get something that makes installation
>easy and air-bubble-free, the sooner the beta testing period
>will be over
>and the product will be offered.  And if I haven't been clear,
>or anybody
>needs more details, don't hesitate to ask me.  Thanks for any
>help you all
>can give ... and rewards will definitely be offered.  <g>
>
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>

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 18:18:46 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Backlight project help needed: rubber roller
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What you need is called a J roller and should be available at any
craft or art supply store. They come in different widths and the
name comes from the handle shape, it is a J with the roller on the
horizontal part and the handle the vertical part.

Pete




Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 18:15:59 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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http://shop.store.yahoo.com/toolsplus/virjr-3.html

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter W. Borders Ýmailto:tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US¨
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:19 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Backlight project help needed: rubber roller
>
>
>What you need is called a J roller and should be available at any
>craft or art supply store. They come in different widths and the
>name comes from the handle shape, it is a J with the roller on the
>horizontal part and the handle the vertical part.
>
>Pete
>
>
>
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
>tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 18:46:54 -0400
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Alfred Lee correctly points out that DLG viewer displays
maps from the USGS that are not rectangular...indeed
USGS maps are not rectangular.   The easiest way to
see this is to try to paste several of them together.
You will notice that the first two go together quite nicely
and subsequent ones in the same direction do also,
but if you try to put too many together it is unsatisfactory.
The problem of course is that the maps are skewed, trying
to show a round surface (the earth) on a flat representation
(the map).

However, for my own purposes, the difference is
imperceptable.  I can only barely see any non-linearity,
and for purposes of using LXGPS, the point is moot, as
the CGA resolution masks the irregularity.  Frankly,
I have never tried to pinpoint positions (with LXGPS)
with any high degree of accuracy, but it has been very
helpful in suggesting to me just exactly which lake I
was staring at.

With the recent deactivation of SA, the GPS world is going
through a sea-change, as it is now possible to resolve your
exact position down to 20 feet.  That beats the accuracy of
most commomnly available maps (7.5 min quads).

Dennis Bell
Seattle

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 01:27:08 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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David,

Sounds like you want something like a miniature rolling pin.
Wonder if large doll house furniture might have something
like that.  If not, someone with woodworking tools might be
able to make a few.  Decide what diameter you need and make
them on a lathe.  Drill a hole length wise large enough too
fit a stiff rod and attach handles at each end.  You could
wrap & glue neoprene around it or maybe find a rubber sleeve
to slip over it if needed.   =Bob=

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Mike,

Great idea!  I used to sell them.  They are called Brayers,
are made by Hunt/Speedball.  The soft rubber No. 70 is 1 1/2
inches wide.  The No. 71 is 2" wide.  David go to a big art
supply store and have a look.  If you can't find them I might
be able to get some.  Last info I have is about $12 apiece.
 =Bob=


> How about an artists supply store. I bought one at such a store some years
> ago. Or photography store where they have photomounting supplies.
>
> Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Thu, 11 May 2000 20:53:55 -0600
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I have a device called a "Tube-Wringer" made by Gill Mechanical Company,
Eugene, Oregone. Could perhaps be modified using rollers from an old
printer. Sending pix in separate email.

Platens from old printers may be a solution for parts.

Bob

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who can
> perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build one
> to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
> actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something with a
> handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The
> rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
> firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object here is
> to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD without
> getting air bubbles under it.  Thus far, using a liquid like water with a
> tiny amount of soap (dishwashing detergent like Dawn or Joy or something)
> has proven very effective, the same way that people who install tinting on
> car windows do it.  But a rubber roller is needed, really, to get the
> adhesive snug up against the glass with no air bubbles at all.  So, can
> anybody point me to a hobby shop or something that would sell a little
> rubber roller like this?  Or does anybody have a brother, a grandma, a
> friend, or anybody they know who could manufacture one, and would be
> willing to do it really cheap?  In the end we'll probably need six
> rollers, preferably all identical, for the people who will be installing
> backlights.
>
> Jeff Johns sent me a big sheet of ... neoprene rubber, I think it was.
> And it works quite well for not scratching and being firm enough to press
> out air bubbles, but it's just a thick, flat sheet, not a roller, so it's
> not very easy to use.  So if anybody has any suggestions, pointers, URLs
> to sites that sell rubber rollers like this, or anything at all, please
> let me know, ASAP.  The sooner we get something that makes installation
> easy and air-bubble-free, the sooner the beta testing period will be over
> and the product will be offered.  And if I haven't been clear, or anybody
> needs more details, don't hesitate to ask me.  Thanks for any help you all
> can give ... and rewards will definitely be offered.  <g>
>
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+--------------------+-----------------+
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|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 08:11:42 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

I recently posted an announcement that I'm working  on a web page
containing information about how to connect the HPLX via a mobile phone
to the internet.

Now this page is ready (but not finished yet!). If you're interested or
involved (Avi, you're involved, for example, because I described
features of WWW/LX, Rod, please read it, too, because I described LXTCP),
please visit my home page (http://daniel.hplx.net) and click on the
project link named as the subject of this message.

If you find any mistakes, please report them as fast as possible!

Thank you very much

daniel


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From:         Etienne Lemaire <elemai2@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Chess
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> From: Louis Di Fazio <louisthx@VEGAS.INFI.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Chess
> Date: lundi 1 mai 2000 23:00
>
> I have a chess game called 'Now Chess' Running on my HP. I forgot where I
> down loaded it from, but I had it on my HP for 5+ years and it is a great
> version of the game. The game is shareware If the Super Site doesn't have
> it I can send you a copy of it.

Well, yes and TIA

Etienne

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 09:34:16 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Altavista light

Hi all,

There seems to be a portal free version of Altavista, go to www.raging.com.
This might be used as a simpler search page for www/lx & Nettamer users.

(Doesn't seem to need the www. part either, just raging.com, mmm...)

br

Franklin

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Date:         Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:19:07 -0500
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Give the ART & Graphics stores a try.  They have rollers like you describe
in various sizes to do similar jobs as you need to do.

Good luck!

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert K. Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight project help needed: rubber roller


I have a device called a "Tube-Wringer" made by Gill Mechanical Company,
Eugene, Oregone. Could perhaps be modified using rollers from an old
printer. Sending pix in separate email.

Platens from old printers may be a solution for parts.

Bob

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who can
> perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build one
> to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
> actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something with a
> handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The
> rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
> firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object here is
> to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD without
> getting air bubbles under it.  Thus far, using a liquid like water with a
> tiny amount of soap (dishwashing detergent like Dawn or Joy or something)
> has proven very effective, the same way that people who install tinting on
> car windows do it.  But a rubber roller is needed, really, to get the
> adhesive snug up against the glass with no air bubbles at all.  So, can
> anybody point me to a hobby shop or something that would sell a little
> rubber roller like this?  Or does anybody have a brother, a grandma, a
> friend, or anybody they know who could manufacture one, and would be
> willing to do it really cheap?  In the end we'll probably need six
> rollers, preferably all identical, for the people who will be installing
> backlights.
>
> Jeff Johns sent me a big sheet of ... neoprene rubber, I think it was.
> And it works quite well for not scratching and being firm enough to press
> out air bubbles, but it's just a thick, flat sheet, not a roller, so it's
> not very easy to use.  So if anybody has any suggestions, pointers, URLs
> to sites that sell rubber rollers like this, or anything at all, please
> let me know, ASAP.  The sooner we get something that makes installation
> easy and air-bubble-free, the sooner the beta testing period will be over
> and the product will be offered.  And if I haven't been clear, or anybody
> needs more details, don't hesitate to ask me.  Thanks for any help you all
> can give ... and rewards will definitely be offered.  <g>
>
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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
+--------------------------------------+

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 11:04:34 +0100
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I use 2.6.3ia, which is the international version (not for use in the
USA).   It uses RSA keys only but up to 1024 bits.  Seems to work
fine with 6.5 on my Win95 system.

William D.Ll.Brown




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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 06:26:04 -0400
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Now this page is ready (but not finished yet!). If you're interested or
> involved (Avi, you're involved, for example, because I described
> features of WWW/LX, Rod, please read it, too, because I described LXTCP),
> please visit my home page (http://daniel.hplx.net) and click on the
> project link named as the subject of this message.

Looks like a good collection of information and good
guidance for those who need to know... Good job. I added
your page as a link to D&A's useful links list.

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 06:26:07 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Altavista light
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I use the full Altavista in text mode...

http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?text

Works well...

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>>What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,

Have you tried a wallpaper seam roller? they usually are not rubber but they
are cheap and may do the job

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 07:21:56 -0400
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My wife's 200 is behaving strangely lately. The screen will occasionally
flash a checkerboard pattern of black, white and garbled squares, then
return to normal. This unit is a 8mb doublespeed, used very lightly, with
no special software running (other than the double speed software).

Any thoughts?
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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 05:38:45 -0700
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In old fingerprint kits(jounior G-Man, etc) their used to be small rollers
to spread ink onto glass. Also, a small plastic or rubber "Sqwegee"(sp)
should work.
Good Luck

Joe


>Date:    Thu, 11 May 2000 20:53:55 -0600
>From:    "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Backlight project help needed: rubber roller

>I have a device called a "Tube-Wringer" made by Gill Mechanical Company,
>Eugene, Oregone. Could perhaps be modified using rollers from an old
>printer. Sending pix in separate email.

>Platens from old printers may be a solution for parts.

>Bob

>David Sargeant wrote:
>>
>> For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who can
>>perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build one
>> to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
>> actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something with a
>> handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The
> rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
> firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object here is
> to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD without
> getting air bubbles under it.  Thus far, using a liquid like water with a
> tiny amount of soap (dishwashing detergent like Dawn or Joy or something)
> has proven very effective, the same way that people who install tinting on
> car windows do it.  But a rubber roller is needed, really, to get the
> adhesive snug up against the glass with no air bubbles at all.  So, can
> anybody point me to a hobby shop or something that would sell a little
> rubber roller like this?  Or does anybody have a brother, a grandma, a
> friend, or anybody they know who could manufacture one, and would be
> willing to do it really cheap?  In the end we'll probably need six
> rollers, preferably all identical, for the people who will be installing
> backlights.
>
> Jeff Johns sent me a big sheet of ... neoprene rubber, I think it was.
> And it works quite well for not scratching and being firm enough to press
> out air bubbles, but it's just a thick, flat sheet, not a roller, so it's
> not very easy to use.  So if anybody has any suggestions, pointers, URLs
> to sites that sell rubber rollers like this, or anything at all, please
> let me know, ASAP.  The sooner we get something that makes installation
> easy and air-bubble-free, the sooner the beta testing period will be over
> and the product will be offered.  And if I haven't been clear, or anybody
> needs more details, don't hesitate to ask me.  Thanks for any help you all
> can give ... and rewards will definitely be offered.  <g>
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 08:59:45 -0400
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You might look at the "inking" roller used by printshops for proofing.

        John    :-)

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Subject: Backlight project help needed: rubber roller


For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who can
perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build one
to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something with a
handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.  The
rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film, but
firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object here is
to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD without
getting air bubbles under it.  Thus far, using a liquid like water with a
tiny amount of soap (dishwashing detergent like Dawn or Joy or something)
has proven very effective, the same way that people who install tinting on
car windows do it.  But a rubber roller is needed, really, to get the
adhesive snug up against the glass with no air bubbles at all.  So, can
anybody point me to a hobby shop or something that would sell a little
rubber roller like this?  Or does anybody have a brother, a grandma, a
friend, or anybody they know who could manufacture one, and would be
willing to do it really cheap?  In the end we'll probably need six
rollers, preferably all identical, for the people who will be installing
backlights.

Jeff Johns sent me a big sheet of ... neoprene rubber, I think it was.
And it works quite well for not scratching and being firm enough to press
out air bubbles, but it's just a thick, flat sheet, not a roller, so it's
not very easy to use.  So if anybody has any suggestions, pointers, URLs
to sites that sell rubber rollers like this, or anything at all, please
let me know, ASAP.  The sooner we get something that makes installation
easy and air-bubble-free, the sooner the beta testing period will be over
and the product will be offered.  And if I haven't been clear, or anybody
needs more details, don't hesitate to ask me.  Thanks for any help you all
can give ... and rewards will definitely be offered.  <g>

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who
can
perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build
one
to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something
with a
handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.
The
rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film,
but
firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object
here is
to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD
without
getting air bubbles under it.>>>>

The rubber roller used for spreading ink on linoleum for linoleum
block prints sounds like what you're describing.  They're available
at any larger art supply store and at some craft supply stores.

They're a little wider than 1.75".  Probably more like 3".  I'm not
sure how easy it would be to trim it but it shouldnt be hard to at
least cut back enough surface material that it doesn't make contact
except for the center 1.75".

Barry


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<<<<For use with the backlight project, I'm looking for somebody who
can
perhaps point me to a product I need, or even somebody who can build
one
to help the project out.  What we need is a rubber roller.  Several,
actually.  This isn't a very complicated device ... just something
with a
handle and a cylindrical rubber roller on the end, about 1.75" wide.
The
rubber should be soft enough that it won't scratch a plastic film,
but
firm enough to squeeze out air bubbles under the film; the object
here is
to apply an adhesive film on the back of the 200LX's glass LCD
without
getting air bubbles under it.>>>>

The following url will download  catalog of Speedball stuff for
linoleum block printing, including their list of brayers (the name I
couldn't think of before for the rubber rollers).  It shows them in
a variety of sizes, including 3".

These are available all over the place.

It's in pdf format and is 149k.

http://www.speedballart.com/pdf/catalog/pg27-28.pdf

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I HAVE A 200 LX 4MB RAM SINGLE SPEED WITH DOS 5.0
I DON=B4T KNOW IF  FLASHDISK F1012B 5 MB IS GOOD FOR MY 200 LX
I WONDER IF IS POSIBLE RUN MY 200 LX WITH WINDOWS AND I DON=B4T KNOW A =
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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 11:18:23 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> what we need is pine for the palmtop!!
>
How about here:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pc-pine/

I quote:
"PC-Pine is a version of PINE --a Program for Internet News & Email-- that
runs on PCs under DOS or Windows.  In order to use PC-Pine, you need a
TCP/IP network connection to a mail server running an IMAP daemon.
(IMAP is the Internet Message Access Protocol).  It is possible to use
PC-Pine via dialup if you have a SLIP or PPP connection to an IMAP server."

Note that I haven't used this. I have only used server-side Pine/Pico in a
dial-up shell.

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 10:26:16 +0000
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My manual lists the memory cards available as
F1012A  5 MEG
F1013A 10 MEG
F1014A 20 MEG

I have a F1014B 20 meg card  that is designed for my 200LX
my guess - the B is a later version?

So I think the F1012B card is OK.  Others can chime in if I am
wrong.

If you are asking if you can run Windows on your 200LX - I know
Win 3.x - Maybe it was Win 3.0?  Has been done and if you NEED
some Windows program it may be worth the trouble - I never wanted
to do it.

-mike



> Date:          Fri, 12 May 2000 08:54:11 -0500
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> Subject:       QUESTION ABOUT HP200LX
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> I HAVE A 200 LX 4MB RAM SINGLE SPEED WITH DOS 5.0
> I DON'T KNOW IF  FLASHDISK F1012B 5 MB IS GOOD FOR MY 200 LX
> I WONDER IF IS POSIBLE RUN MY 200 LX WITH WINDOWS AND I DON'T KNOW A DIRECTION FOR DOWNLOAD THIS.
>
> RAUL CANO
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 13:03:24 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 12 May 2000 11:23:29 -0400 (EDT)

01h09m53s ago ...
On Fri, 12 May 2000, frigotec wrote:

> I HAVE A 200 LX 4MB RAM SINGLE SPEED WITH DOS 5.0
> I DON=B4T KNOW IF  FLASHDISK F1012B 5 MB IS GOOD FOR MY 200 LX

Yes.  It was sold for the 100/200LX series.  Almost any ATA flash card
or CF card (with adapter) will also work.

> I WONDER IF IS POSIBLE RUN MY 200 LX WITH WINDOWS AND I DON=B4T KNOW
> A DIRECTION FOR DOWNLOAD THIS.

It's possible to run Win 3.0 or earlier, but unless you have the old
windoze software it isn't worthwhile.

If you want something similar to the windoze GUI, you could try
X-Finder - available on SUPER

          http://palmtop.net

Look for the SUPER search engine and enter X-Finder.  The program is
written just for the 100/200LX, and has a lot of what you may like in
windoze, without the 6 times a day crashes.


HTH

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Etienne


I like to send me a copy for your chess game.

thanks

Raul Cano

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              Mieke Citroen <citroen@STAD.DSL.NL>
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Ý...¨
>Now this page is ready (but not finished yet!). If you're interested or
>involved (Avi, you're involved, for example, because I described
>features of WWW/LX, Rod, please read it, too, because I described LXTCP),
>please visit my home page (http://daniel.hplx.net) and click on the
>project link named as the subject of this message.
>Ý...¨
>daniel

Great page!
Some additional info:
The Motorola Timeport can be used to connect to the 200LX's
as well. We now have 2 timeports with data cables and Sprint PCS
service. It just acts like a modem - you can send AT commands to
it, and it behaves as expected. (Sprint is very confused about this
simple setup and their technical nitwits can't explain how they have
their system setup and don't understand why we don't want the nice
built-in mini-webbrowser and their software cds. It looks like they
have some modem bank on their digital network, because the modem
service only works when you are connected using their digital system)

The timeport (when bought with SprintPCS service) comes with a
"wireless web kit" which includes lots of superfluous cd's and
manuals - the interesting part being the data cable. Hook that
up to Thaddeus' 9" Zoom cable (with male serial plug at the end,
so you don't need the gender-changer that comes with the timeport
stuff) and you're in business. The one other way to make the cable
less bulky would be to find a shorter timeport cable. Haven't seen
one yet, but as Daniel says, it's probably going to be quite
expensive.
(Tested with WWW/LX)

Just my $0.02

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 13:18:45 -0400
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Hi

Could somebody help this guy out. I found this in comp.sys.palmtops. I
have asked him to join us here on the list.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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From: biochem@netcore.com.au (Phillip)
Subject: HP 200LX-12 volt polarity problem =no go
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:13:07 GMT

Is it possible to repair a 200 LX after the 12 V DC was used with the
incorrect polarity?

Why do HP have to use the reverse pinouts on their 12v plugs compared
to the majority of the industry?

As you can see I made the mistake of plugging the wrong connector into
the 200, and now I'm trying to find a way to repair.

Any practical fix suggestions would be welcomed.

Cheers'

Phillip

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 13:29:03 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Send him to Thaddeus, I think they can repair just about anything.
Or put another way, if they can't do it, I'd give up trying...

The only _standard_ in the industry is that everyone has their own!

Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Could somebody help this guy out. I found this in comp.sys.palmtops. I
> have asked him to join us here on the list.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: biochem@netcore.com.au (Phillip)
> Subject: HP 200LX-12 volt polarity problem =no go
> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:13:07 GMT
>
> Is it possible to repair a 200 LX after the 12 V DC was used with the
> incorrect polarity?
>
> Why do HP have to use the reverse pinouts on their 12v plugs compared
> to the majority of the industry?
>
> As you can see I made the mistake of plugging the wrong connector into
> the 200, and now I'm trying to find a way to repair.
>
> Any practical fix suggestions would be welcomed.
>
> Cheers'
>
> Phillip
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 13:39:56 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Fri, 12 May 2000 07:21:56 -0400, Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:

> My wife's 200 is behaving strangely lately. The screen will occasionally
> flash a checkerboard pattern of black, white and garbled squares, then
> return to normal. This unit is a 8mb doublespeed, used very lightly, with
> no special software running (other than the double speed software).
>
> Any thoughts?

Hmm I think I see this too from time to time. It scares me to death
every time. I get this when I am opening the Hplx and pushing the On
key while I still are pushing the screen. But I have seen it also when
the screen is in a fixed position. I have not been able to reproduce
this behaviour.

I have no idea what this can be, so please don't tell me it is
serious.:-)

I also have a 8mb doublespeed. I use the latest driver from Mack. I have
not seen this behaviour before I got the speed upgrade. But I do not
know if it is related to the speedupgrade at all. I hope it is and
nothing more serious.

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 13:44:08 +0500
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On 2000-05-11 Domingo said:
   >Hmm . . .  I just checked their site, and all references to
   >the DOS version have disappeared (except for some old
   >support FAQs). The references were there a little over a
   >month ago, when I was looking into InfoSelect for the Palm.
   >Try contacting them and see what they say.  By the way,
   >InfoSelect never was shareware, but if they are not going to
   >sell it, it ought to be freeware.

I will contact them and post their answer here.  Thanks for checking it out
as well.


Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 04:51:25 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Fwd: HP 200LX-12 volt polarity problem =no go
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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At 01:18 PM 5/12/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>Could somebody help this guy out. I found this in comp.sys.palmtops. I
>have asked him to join us here on the list.
>
>Regards
>
>--
>Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

Hi Martin & list

I wrote to Phillip and suggested he check Thaddeus for possible repair &
upgrade.

Thanks for finding another Australian LX user.

I'm curious if some electronics person here could come up with a simple
fuse/protection device for overvoltage/reverse polarity etc or a design
that a muggins like me could cobble together from Radio Shacktype place.

Russell

PS I found Canon bubblejet10 power adapter has same polarity and rated 9.6
volt output 1.5 amps which works great with my LX.  Too big for travel tho.

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 13:57:07 -0400
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              Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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>I do know that she has not had this problem up until a week or so ago. It
>may be tied to using a flash card - that is the only thing that has
>changed, but she has had the card for a month or so. I am going to see if
>this continues without the card installed

Jim


>Hmm I think I see this too from time to time. It scares me to death
>every time. I get this when I am opening the Hplx and pushing the On
>key while I still are pushing the screen. But I have seen it also when
>the screen is in a fixed position. I have not been able to reproduce
>this behaviour.
>
>I have no idea what this can be, so please don't tell me it is
>serious.:-)
>
>I also have a 8mb doublespeed. I use the latest driver from Mack. I have
>not seen this behaviour before I got the speed upgrade. But I do not
>know if it is related to the speedupgrade at all. I hope it is and
>nothing more serious.
>
>Regards
>
>--
>Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
>
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              Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
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Hi Friends,
I've got to clean out some things here quickly.  I hope that some of you
will find them worthwhile.   Else, they have to get dumped.
PCAnywhere Ver. 4.5 (Last to run on the 200lx
Lotus 2.4 sets with no diskettes (network version)
The above are unused and still in the shrinkwrap
Wordperfect 5.1 sets (used and most with no diskettes)
Several copies of dBase III+ and IV I think all are used but have diskettes
a few DOS 5 manuals
other assorted DOS software

Please make me an offer!  I'm in the US if it makes a difference.
Thanks,
bob

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 15:09:18 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Fri, 12 May 2000 15:03:40 -0500 (EST)

Hi:

   As I mentioned in an earlier post, I will be traveling to Italy & UK
   later this summer. It seems I will be relying on CyberCafes for
   Internet Connectivity. Obviously, they have workstations set up, but
   generally are there facilities so I can plug-in my LX w/ Accton2216
   card?

   aTdHvAaNnKcSe...AJKind


*
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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 05:59:50 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Automatic conversion of E-mail arrivals to SMS messages?
Comments: To: Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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At 02:01 PM 5/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Is there any such service web site? I am looking for free service.
>The SMS has 160 character limit, but it still helps me to be notified
>with the first few lines...

Hi

You might try http://www.mtnsms.com/ or www.smsmebaby.com for what you are
looking for

Cheers

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 15:54:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Funny Screen activity
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> I also have a 8mb doublespeed. I use the latest driver from Mack. I have
> not seen this behaviour before I got the speed upgrade. But I do not
> know if it is related to the speedupgrade at all. I hope it is and
> nothing more serious.

Most likely the problem is the screen cable which runs from the
motherboard, through the hinge and to the screen. It might have a
short or break developing in it. You can also try compressing the left
edge of the screen case which is where the cable compresses against
the gold fingers on the screen driver board. It may be a contact
issue in that area.

Cheers,
 Mack

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 14:37:25 -0700
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              "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
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From:         "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: GPS and map program
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I am really no expert here, but when I was writing the DLG Viewer, I
ran into all kinds of strange things, like the importance of North
American Datum 1927, 1984 Geodetic, etc.  The bottom line is if any
of these is wrong, you will be off from a few metre to hundreds of
metre.  You even have to setup you GPS to use the correct settings.
I got it correct to the point where I can accurately display GPS
position on the USGS map with no detectable error.  Of course it
helps that I live in LA and presumably that the USGS maps are more
accurate here.  By the way, DLG Viewer can create maps of arbitrary
scale from the DLG maps, i.e. it is possible to get 10 pixel per metre
or greater resolution (probably useless except for fun.)

Regards,
Alfred

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Sent:   Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:46 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: GPS and map program

Alfred Lee correctly points out that DLG viewer displays
maps from the USGS that are not rectangular...indeed
USGS maps are not rectangular.   The easiest way to
see this is to try to paste several of them together.
You will notice that the first two go together quite nicely
and subsequent ones in the same direction do also,
but if you try to put too many together it is unsatisfactory.
The problem of course is that the maps are skewed, trying
to show a round surface (the earth) on a flat representation
(the map).

However, for my own purposes, the difference is
imperceptable.  I can only barely see any non-linearity,
and for purposes of using LXGPS, the point is moot, as
the CGA resolution masks the irregularity.  Frankly,
I have never tried to pinpoint positions (with LXGPS)
with any high degree of accuracy, but it has been very
helpful in suggesting to me just exactly which lake I
was staring at.

With the recent deactivation of SA, the GPS world is going
through a sea-change, as it is now possible to resolve your
exact position down to 20 feet.  That beats the accuracy of
most commomnly available maps (7.5 min quads).

Dennis Bell
Seattle

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 15:11:14 -0700
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              Carla Ruigh <swngdncr@GARLIC.COM>
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Hello all,

I'm a loyal, if novice LX200 user w/a double speed 8MB version. The
short story is that I did hard reboot after a complete backup.
Reinstalled the dblspeed drivers, and voila, my little HP works right
again.  I had all kinds of problems with it.  One of them was with my
phonebook.  But, this problem seems unresolved.  I can open other phone
book files, and make new ones, but when I try and open my orginal
phonebook (the one with all my  stuff in it), I get an error message
'cannot open file'.  Any suggestions out there as what to do?  Thanks in
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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 08:25:25 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi Carla

I had a similar problem when I backed up with the phonebook app open.  I
*think* I resolved it with garlic prog on SUPER site but maybe I used an
older backup that wasnt hosed.

Anyone else with ideas?

I now close all apps before doing any backups and for my main Phone DB
rename it and re-import and test openability before I do any major reboots
etc.

I hope this info may be of use.

Russell

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 20:54:10 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> My wife's 200 is behaving strangely lately. The screen will occasionally
> flash a checkerboard pattern of black, white and garbled squares, then
> return to normal.

I have a 32 Meg DS machine that started doing that.  Shortly after, it started to lock up regularly and I had to send it in for repair.  I am not sure if your wife's will also "choke", but this has been my personal experience.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 20:22:36 -0700
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Subject:      Re: FS - Software
Comments: To: Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
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At 02:59 PM 5/12/00 -0400, you wrote:
(snip)
>other assorted DOS software
(snip)

Bob, could you expand on this please?  Perhaps a quick little list?

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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 00:03:50 +500
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From:         David Bell <dmb1000@PRODIGY.NET>
Subject:      Re: Prepay for palmtop and get 10 Meg PC card and 200LX cable free
Comments: cc: hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0

On 2000-05-11 Hal Goldstein said:
   >Well folks it looks like it is finally happening. We will be buying
   >around 4K Euro-English 200LX's from the Dutch Railway company!

4000 palmtops?  That's great.  You can be in in business for years to come,
hopefully.


   >We expect to receive the palmtops some time in August. It will be
   >quite expensive for us to make the purchase, and I would prefer to
   >minimize our loan from the bank.  Therefore, we have come up with
   >an offer described below and at www.palmtoppaper.com.
   >Fortunately, we also made two large buys of 10 Meg new (Compaq
   >labeled) PC cards (I believe manufactured by Sandisk but don't know
   >yet for sure) and of 200LX connectivity cables (manufactured by the
   >company that made them for HP).  The Compaq cards were made for an
   >earlier Windows CE device.
   >As an incentive, to have people prepay, we will be offering a 10
   >meg card and a cable with each palmtop sold!

If I prepay, does it have to be a doublespeed palmtop, or can I purchase one
with say 8 megabytes of RAM w/a one year warranty without the d/s?  If so,
then I'm definitely interested.  I wasn't sure if this alternative is also
available.  With your company's reputation, I would gladly prepay for a
reconditioned palmtop.


Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Date:         Fri, 12 May 2000 20:07:09 -1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM>
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From:         Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM>
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Bob - I'm looking for a copy of dBSTATS with documentation. Do you by
chance have it?

Aloha - bob     \ooo_
................................................................
Subject: FS - Software
   Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:59:00 -0400
   From: Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>

Hi Friends,
I've got to clean out some things here quickly.  I hope that some of you
will find them worthwhile.   Else, they have to get dumped.
PCAnywhere Ver. 4.5 (Last to run on the 200lx
Lotus 2.4 sets with no diskettes (network version)
The above are unused and still in the shrinkwrap
Wordperfect 5.1 sets (used and most with no diskettes)
Several copies of dBase III+ and IV I think all are used but have
diskettes
a few DOS 5 manuals
other assorted DOS software

Please make me an offer!  I'm in the US if it makes a difference.
Thanks,
bob
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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 12:09:04 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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Hi

I know a dealer in South Africa that has 20 HP 700LX's available at around
$170 each. These units are all brand new and I think most of the boxes are
still sealed.

I know that the 700LX is not as popular as the 200 since it's a bit more
bulky, but I love mine!!

Would you be interested? I know it does not really compete with 4000 (wow
wow wow) of 200LX units!!

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:01 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Prepay for palmtop and get 10 Meg PC card and 200LX cable
> free
>
> Well folks it looks like it is finally happening. We will be buying around
> 4K Euro-English 200LX's from the Dutch Railway company!
>
> We expect to receive the palmtops some time in August. It will be quite
> expensive for us to make the purchase, and I would prefer to minimize our
> loan from the bank.  Therefore, we have come up with an offer described
> below and at www.palmtoppaper.com.
>
> Fortunately, we also made two large buys of 10 Meg new (Compaq labeled) PC
> cards (I believe manufactured by Sandisk but don't know yet for sure) and
> of
> 200LX connectivity cables (manufactured by the company that made them for
> HP).  The Compaq cards were made for an earlier Windows CE device.
>
> As an incentive, to have people prepay, we will be offering a 10 meg card
> and a cable with each palmtop sold!
>
> I don't know how long we will keep this offer, because I don't know yet
> when
> we will have to pay for the palmtops. I expect the palmtops (certainly the
> first 2K or so) to be in quite good condition -- and we refurbish them --
> clean them up, tighten hinges, etc.  However, first come, first served in
> terms of best palmtops.
>
> We will be selling them as 2 meg, 5 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Mack cannot
> find any chips he needs for 96 meg and has no immediate prospects).
>
> For more details see www.palmtoppaper.com. To order, use the web site,
> mail
> us, 110 N. Court, Fairfield, IA 52556, or call us, 800 373 6114, fax 515
> 472
> 1879. You can also email orders@thaddeus.com.
>
> If you have questions, best to ask me here, as our phone folks won't know
> more then what I just posted or is on our web site.
>
> As to backlighting, you probably read David's post. We are inching
> forward.
> However, as some of you surmised, June is probably a little optimistic.
> Hopefully, backlighting will be ready by the time the units come.
>
> Anyone who prepays for a palmtop and leaves us an email address will be
> notified about backlighting before we send you your unit.  Note that we
> can't provide pre-ordering of backlighting until we are sure it will be a
> product and know when they will be ready. Realistically, if you want your
> preordered unit backlit, it will probably be September before you receive
> the unit because the process is so labor intensive.
>
> Hal at Thaddeus
>
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Subject:      Re: Cannot Open file error Phonebook
Comments: To: Carla Ruigh <swngdncr@GARLIC.COM>
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> Hello all,
>
> I'm a loyal, if novice LX200 user w/a double speed 8MB version. The

Welcome!

> phonebook (the one with all my  stuff in it), I get an error message
> 'cannot open file'.  Any suggestions out there as what to do?  Thanks in
> advance for your help. -Carla-


There are a couple of things you can try.  First, make a copy and try
working with the copy.  As suggested, Garlic can sometimes recover bad
data.

Another is to create or open a NEW empty phonebook file.  Then try using
menu/file/merge to read in your "bad" phonebook.  This sometimes works.

You can also try using one of the other utilities (are they both in
Super?) gdbio or dbutil to convert the data to comma delimited.
Sometimes they will read bad files, altho most times not.

And last, a manual, tedious method:  Open the file in Memo (it will open
the file generally) as a messed up "text" file.  Then open a new, clean
phonebook file.  Slowly use cut/copy/paste in memo to move useable data
from memo into a new clean phone file.  Just move READIBLE text (regular
letters and numbers) and none of the high ascii "odd" characters.

Good luck.

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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 08:34:50 -0700
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I have (3) 48 Meg Compact Flash name Brand Simple Technologies disks
available. These disks are in excellent condition and have hardly been
used except to test a customer's new prototype product at work. I am
selling them for $75.00 a piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I
also have (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks  available as well.
I sell  (1) 20 Meg disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging
and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If are
only interested in name brand Sandisks, then I have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA
Sandisks as well. I  am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00
for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00
plus $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send
payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that your disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out
disks the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and
then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap
and place them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you
are interested, email me back and  let me know and I will hold your disk
or (disks) for you. The response so far has been really great and the
people I have worked with have been just terrific!     Thanks alot!
Scott

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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 10:59:51 +0500
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Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
Comments: cc: KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA
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On 2000-05-08 Donald Klopper said:
   >I paid R1000 ($143) for my 700LX
   >NEW (well it was old stock but they're UNUSED !!!).
   >(I think there are more available if anyone's interested - they can
   >be couriered from South Africa to the US or wherever).
   >I actually wanted the 200LX (esp the doublespeed one maybe with a
   >backlight), but at the price I could not resist it!

Indeed, I am.  What is the cost of the 700/200LX, and can they ship to the
United States?  Any information would be greatly appreciated.


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Subject:      Re: CALDERA & WebSpyder
Comments: cc: ian@HPLX.NET
MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-05-08 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
   >> I read that Caldera's WebSpyder browser should be able to work on
   >>200LX-  at least the version which was available some time 1997-
   >>98. I have  searched and no result. The current version seams to
   >>have been removed  from Caldera's web site.
   >A while back, Caldera split into two companies; the one carrying
   >DR-DOS and its associated products (WebSpyder, NetWare for DOS, etc.
   >) became Caldera Thin Clients (now Lineo).  I believe Lineo has
   >also changed the name of WebSpyder, but as far as I know it's still
   >in production.  You could look around on www.lineo.com to see, I'm
   >sure.
   >ian Butler / ian@hplx.net

Since Caldera's WebSpyder was based, in least in part, upon the Arachne
source code, I doubt it could be run on the 200LX.  You might check the
Arachne web site...I know Micheal Polak (the developer of Arachne) was
working on a version that could run on the 200LX a few months ago.


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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 11:00:10 +0500
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Subject:      Re: GDBWIN
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MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-05-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >It is a Windows' version of the various database applications rolled
   >into one.  The Menus are "distorted" since they use Japanese
   >fonts/words.  You have to presume that many of the functions and
   >function keys mirror those on the HP itself and go with it.  For
   >instance, F9 is OPEN.  Or just use the OPEN button and find a
   >desktop copy of your files and view them.   Work with a copy of any
   >database file (so you don't blow your only good backup) while you
   >learn the functions by experimenting.  I generally use it just to
   >view things.

Ahhh, I see.  So you can have a working copy of the database on the 200LX
and on the desktop.  I take it works with any standard database except the
Appointment book application?

This will be intriguing to test out.  Thanks for the information.


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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 11:00:17 +0500
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Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
Comments: cc: bobk@GOL.COM
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On 2000-05-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >The lament of most 200lx users. One of Pen Computing's editors paid
   >us the honor by referring to 200lx users as being "diehard". As
   >others have noted, lamented, there really isn't a good alternative
   >for technical types (or even financial types) who actually use the
   >calculator or Lotus 1-2-3 quite a bit (not to mention Derive, etc.)
   >as an embedded keypad or pushing on the screen with a stylus is no
   >match for a real keypad for speed of entry.

Indeed.  And I can still find no real comparison to the 200LX in the newer
models.  The Psion looks interesting, but doesn't have the built-in
advantage of the programs the 200LX can run.


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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 11:00:23 +0500
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From:         David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Availability
Comments: cc: emkeefe@USWEST.NET
MIME-version: 1.0

On 2000-05-06 Ed Keefe said:
   >Please check the status of new machines on http://www.palmtoppaper.
   >com Looks like the last batch was grabbed up.
   >Reminds me of an old witticism--"Around our dinner table there are
   >only two kinds of people, 'The Quick and the Dead.'"

Yes, and on this point, I was definitely not quick enough!  Thanks for the
information, though.


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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 13:03:10 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Subject:      HP200LX Serial Loopback connectors?
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I trying the power-on serial port test, I remembered that I have yet to
see any pinout for "the" official loopback connector on the 200LX.

Now, I'm pretty sure you connect things like this, at least:

(Define the serial port, see http://hwb.acc.umu.se/ for good info):
 1  CD   Input   Carrier Detect
 2  RXD  Input   Receive Data
 3  TXD  Output  Transmit Data
 4  DTR  Output  Data Terminal Ready
 5  GND  ==      System Ground
 6  DSR  Input   Data Set Ready
 7  RTS  Output  Request to Send
 8  CTS  Input   Clear to Send
 9  RI   Input   Ring Indicator
10  SHD  ==      Shield (== Ground)

(Define connections):
 2 (RxD) to  3 (TxD)
 5 (Gnd) to 10 (SHD) for redundancy.

Now, for the rest of them:

Do we jumper RTS-CTS (7-8) and CD-DTR-DSR-RI (1-4-6-9), OR, some other
strange permutation?  (This is what Norton and CheckIt use, but I've
seen several other pinouts.)

I want to be able to test serial ports on these beasties, cannot seem to
find the definition of this loopback plug.  Guess I can build one and
test it, if the test fails, is this info somewhere?  (Been looking,
maybe throw the answer in the LX FAQ once determined?)

Thanks in advance!

  Mark

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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 17:28:08 -0500
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A while back, someone asked if GDBWIN can create databases. I replied Yes
because I was "creating" a large, personal NoteTaker database at the time.
Now I realize that "create" has two meanings. GDBWIN will let you "create"
the contents of a database on the desktop.  However it does not seem to have
the ability to create a custom .gdb file in the same sense that you can
create a custom database on the Ptop (i.e., picking the types of fields and
moving them around in the editing screen, etc.) However GDBWIN will read and
use custom databases and let you create the content.

.ed.

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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 18:49:04 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: GDBWIN
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Ed Keefe wrote:
>A while back, someone asked if GDBWIN can create databases.

GDBWin is a really great program, but I have some questions about the
menus, which are in funny characters because the program was written
for the Japanese character set.

If someone has figured them out, I'd like to know what they do.
Especially one of them. If you click the fifth menu choice from the
left (out of six), then the bottom choice in that sub-menu, you get a
tabbed dialog box with seven tabs. It looks like they can set fonts,
etc., but I'd like to know.

--
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Date:         Sat, 13 May 2000 17:15:38 -0700
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              Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Automatic conversion of E-mail arrivals to SMS messages?
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@powerup.com.au>
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Thank you for the suggestion, but they are all outside U.S... I found a
web site for free service at

        http://www.primatesys.com/

but have not been able to succeed to set it up correctly. The setup seems
easy but the filtering did not work and I have not been able to receive
any single test message from myself except the inbox overflow error
message due to too many pre-existing emails in my inbox (this is why I
am saying the filtering does not work).

Regards!

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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Russell Hemery wrote:

> At 02:01 PM 5/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is there any such service web site? I am looking for free service.
> >The SMS has 160 character limit, but it still helps me to be notified
> >with the first few lines...
>
> Hi
>
> You might try http://www.mtnsms.com/ or www.smsmebaby.com for what you are
> looking for
>
> Cheers
>
> Russell
>
>

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Subject:      Re: GDBWIN
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> If someone has figured them out, I'd like to know what they do.
> Especially one of them. If you click the fifth menu choice from the
> left (out of six), then the bottom choice in that sub-menu, you get a
> tabbed dialog box with seven tabs. It looks like they can set fonts,
> etc., but I'd like to know.

I think one of them and maybe more has to do with displaying graphics
and the contrast/size of those images.  There is that add-on program
which allows graphic images: ibex/ipex?

I wonder if one installed Japanese fonts like I had on the pc110 at one
time, if it the fonts would be clearer and allow one to find then in the
executables???   But hacking probably would violate the copyright!

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              victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> - Longden
>
> PS - Maybe if you drive a stake thru the Palm's heart and offer its silicon up
> as a sacrifice, the 200LX will come back <not> .... shit happens.

LOL

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Hi,

> Since Caldera's WebSpyder was based, in least in part, upon the Arachne
> source code, I doubt it could be run on the 200LX.  You might check the
> Arachne web site...I know Micheal Polak (the developer of Arachne) was
> working on a version that could run on the 200LX a few months ago.

A version from 1997 willl run on 200LX. But if it's based upon Arachne,
then I guess it's not much news. I need a browser which works with
WATTCP and so far I have not seen a single browser which works ok-
including DOSLYNX, Arachne etc.

I guess the only solution is to write my own browser....


Regards,


Jorgen

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              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
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>>WATTCP and so far I have not seen a single browser which works ok-
>>including DOSLYNX, Arachne etc.
>>I guess the only solution is to write my own browser....
>>Regards,Jorgen

We're waiting <huge grin>     best regards.....Liam

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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Jorgen,

> > Since Caldera's WebSpyder was based, in least in part, upon the =
Arachne
> > source code, I doubt it could be run on the 200LX.  You might check =
the
> > Arachne web site...I know Micheal Polak (the developer of Arachne) =
was
> > working on a version that could run on the 200LX a few months ago.
>
> A version from 1997 willl run on 200LX. But if it's based upon Arachne,
> then I guess it's not much news. I need a browser which works with
> WATTCP and so far I have not seen a single browser which works ok-
> including DOSLYNX, Arachne etc.
>
> I guess the only solution is to write my own browser....

Great idea! The browser should also include frames and latest security
implementations.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 14 May 2000 09:05:05 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Subject:      Re: CyberCafe questions
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On Fri, 12 May 2000 15:09:18 -0400, Unknown Name <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

> Fri, 12 May 2000 15:03:40 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi:
>
>    As I mentioned in an earlier post, I will be traveling to Italy & UK
>    later this summer. It seems I will be relying on CyberCafes for
>    Internet Connectivity. Obviously, they have workstations set up, but
>    generally are there facilities so I can plug-in my LX w/ Accton2216
>    card?

Hi

You should be able to connect to there TP network. I do that at the
University. I just run DHCP and gets a ip before I run Www/lx and then
I am online. But I guess you have to have your own smtp to get your
mail sent. David could maybe help you out there.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway

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Hallo LX fellows,
now it's me asking for help.
Since I have AOL 5 installed on my notebook I not able anymore to get my LX
connected via the serial COM 1port to my notebook. Is anybody who can help me
out with that problem. It is the only way I'm connecting my LX to the
ntoteback  (backup, mainly )
Would the main question be how to get the default setting of the COM port
back ??
Please help !
Thanks in advance

Michael B.

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Date:         Sun, 14 May 2000 12:53:58 -0400
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Sun, 14 May 2000 12:46:54 -0500 (EST)

GO JORGEN!

12h33m11s ago ...
On Sun, 14 May 2000, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> ...
> I guess the only solution is to write my own browser....
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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Date:         Sun, 14 May 2000 19:52:30 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Ho Jim,

On Fri, 12 May 2000 07:21:56 -0400, Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:

> My wife's 200 is behaving strangely lately. The screen will occasionally
> flash a checkerboard pattern of black, white and garbled squares, then
> Ý...¨
> Any thoughts?

Yes:

Try to press the case of the screen together in the lower left corner
(above the lift hinge) with your left thumb and forefinger. Be careful
not to press to much, and try to press with different amounts of power
and at different places on the left side of the screen.

If you realize that this affects the behaviour in any way (either makes
it go away or even forces it), you probably only suffer from a loose
screw. If your pressing doesn't make any difference, I don't know
what's going on.

Please report if this attempt was successful. If yes, I'll tell you
what to do.

GTX
daniel

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What does "Euro-English" imply, if anything?
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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I noticed that there are several MS Dos emulators to be downloaded
(seemingly for free) for palmtops running Win CE.

Does anyone have experience with these emulators? Granted it will be slower
running in emulation that real CPU-oriented code, but with the fast 133MHz
palmtops does it deliver fair performance?

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

     o__
    _.>/)_
   (_) \(_)


.-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ball ÝSMTP:dmb10@SWBELL.NET¨
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 8:00 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
>
> On 2000-05-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
>    >The lament of most 200lx users. One of Pen Computing's editors paid
>    >us the honor by referring to 200lx users as being "diehard". As
>    >others have noted, lamented, there really isn't a good alternative
>    >for technical types (or even financial types) who actually use the
>    >calculator or Lotus 1-2-3 quite a bit (not to mention Derive, etc.)
>    >as an embedded keypad or pushing on the screen with a stylus is no
>    >match for a real keypad for speed of entry.
>
> Indeed.  And I can still find no real comparison to the 200LX in the newer
> models.  The Psion looks interesting, but doesn't have the built-in
> advantage of the programs the 200LX can run.
>
>
> Regards,
> dmb10@swbell.net
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered
>
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> Hi Friends,
> I've got to clean out some things here quickly.  I hope that some of you
> will find them worthwhile.   Else, they have to get dumped.
> PCAnywhere Ver. 4.5 (Last to run on the 200lx


Bob:

Have you had an offer on the PCAnywhere yet?  Do you have more than one
copy?  In any event, if you still have it/them, how much do you want?
If it is reasonable, I'll buy one or more.

-Chris Lott

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3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
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Date:         Sun, 14 May 2000 21:26:27 EDT
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Michael,
AOL is, your problem. It takes over all networking. It is my understanding
that AOL5.0 is the worst, requiring a complete reinstall of Windows if you
want to use another Internet service.  I was unable to complete a parallel
port networking of my desktop and a laptop. I finally gave up in frustration.
Later, I learned from our IMS people at work that AOL software causes lots of
connectivity problems.

(Or, it could be that your computer has an IRQ conflict.)

Dennis

<< Since I have AOL 5 installed on my notebook I not able anymore to get my LX
 connected via the serial COM 1port to my notebook. >>

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I have an update to ccclxpop and FFDB that I would like to post, but have no
personal web page. Would anyone be willing to host these files so I could get
them out to the HPLX community?

Brian

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Brian,
 I would be willing if the total file space required is less than 5 megabytes. I
would post them to my FTP site and install links on personal palmtop page. Either
way the files would be there for people to grab them.
 Let me know something. I am willing unless you get a better offer.

William E. Blankenship, B.S. Geology, CPhT

Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> I have an update to ccclxpop and FFDB that I would like to post, but have no
> personal web page. Would anyone be willing to host these files so I could get
> them out to the HPLX community?
>
> Brian
>
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 14:29:03 +10
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          Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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hi, can you connect a Nokia 5110 to the 700LX? regards Alain

> Hi
>
> I know a dealer in South Africa that has 20 HP 700LX's available at around
> $170 each. These units are all brand new and I think most of the boxes are
> still sealed.
>
> I know that the 700LX is not as popular as the 200 since it's a bit more
> bulky, but I love mine!!
>
> Would you be interested? I know it does not really compete with 4000 (wow
> wow wow) of 200LX units!!
>
> -----------------
> Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
> Delphi Analyst/Programmer
> BHIS Consulting
> Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
> Tel: +27 12 336-7256
> Cell:+27 82 468-7480
> klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
> Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za
>
>      o__
>     _.>/)_
>    (_) \(_)
>
>
> .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:01 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Prepay for palmtop and get 10 Meg PC card and 200LX cable
> > free
> >
> > Well folks it looks like it is finally happening. We will be buying around
> > 4K Euro-English 200LX's from the Dutch Railway company!
> >
> > We expect to receive the palmtops some time in August. It will be quite
> > expensive for us to make the purchase, and I would prefer to minimize our
> > loan from the bank.  Therefore, we have come up with an offer described
> > below and at www.palmtoppaper.com.
> >
> > Fortunately, we also made two large buys of 10 Meg new (Compaq labeled) PC
> > cards (I believe manufactured by Sandisk but don't know yet for sure) and
> > of
> > 200LX connectivity cables (manufactured by the company that made them for
> > HP).  The Compaq cards were made for an earlier Windows CE device.
> >
> > As an incentive, to have people prepay, we will be offering a 10 meg card
> > and a cable with each palmtop sold!
> >
> > I don't know how long we will keep this offer, because I don't know yet
> > when
> > we will have to pay for the palmtops. I expect the palmtops (certainly the
> > first 2K or so) to be in quite good condition -- and we refurbish them --
> > clean them up, tighten hinges, etc.  However, first come, first served in
> > terms of best palmtops.
> >
> > We will be selling them as 2 meg, 5 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Mack cannot
> > find any chips he needs for 96 meg and has no immediate prospects).
> >
> > For more details see www.palmtoppaper.com. To order, use the web site,
> > mail
> > us, 110 N. Court, Fairfield, IA 52556, or call us, 800 373 6114, fax 515
> > 472
> > 1879. You can also email orders@thaddeus.com.
> >
> > If you have questions, best to ask me here, as our phone folks won't know
> > more then what I just posted or is on our web site.
> >
> > As to backlighting, you probably read David's post. We are inching
> > forward.
> > However, as some of you surmised, June is probably a little optimistic.
> > Hopefully, backlighting will be ready by the time the units come.
> >
> > Anyone who prepays for a palmtop and leaves us an email address will be
> > notified about backlighting before we send you your unit.  Note that we
> > can't provide pre-ordering of backlighting until we are sure it will be a
> > product and know when they will be ready. Realistically, if you want your
> > preordered unit backlit, it will probably be September before you receive
> > the unit because the process is so labor intensive.
> >
> > Hal at Thaddeus
> >
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>


Al
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Hellu..

Told this guy to join us. Until he do please Cc: him the reply..

I have never seen his problem before. I have seen a program to use the
modem in the Hplx pcmciaslot for the desktop pc. But not an internal
modem on a desktop Be used by the Hplx. But some serial trick could be
done maybe?

Regards

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From: "Stephen Cross" <SteveCross@bigfoot.com>
Subject: HP200LX using Desktop PC Modem?
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:35:51 +0100

Can I get my HP200LX to directly use my desktops internal modem. Any
pointers?

Steve Cross
SteveCross@bigfoot.com




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Russell Hemery wrote:
<snipped>
> I'm curious if some electronics person here could come up with a simple
> fuse/protection device for overvoltage/reverse polarity etc or a design
> that a muggins like me could cobble together from Radio Shacktype place.
>
> Russell

IMO the BEST way - Use one specific power adapter for your 200LX.  I
built one custom, just to prevent problems - Consider the cost of
repair, versus the cost of two of even the most expensive power
adapters.

I've been thinking on an internal fix that would solve this;  Need to
sit down and see how to fit it in there.

An external fix will be a bit bulky, but is possible.  I'll get a JPeg
put together of what to make, e-mail me if you want the idea (Limitation
is, you need 1 to 1.4 volt more than you've needed in the past i.e. a
9.6 volt power supply may not work at all.  Good thing about it is, you
could easily use any 10V to 14V DC power source;  with a slight
modification Ýadd a capacitor¨, could use any 7VAC to 10VAC power
source.  DON'T use 12VAC though!)

Can make a more complex widget that'll power the LX from most any power
source, but that's going to be somewhat expensive, I think.  Perhaps
nice for someone, though.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 10:06:23 +0100
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Me!

I am willing to do it, how big are the files? It will only be web access (no
ftp) but if you want to, let me know.

The page is:

http://www.johnson-net.demon.co.uk/



>I have an update to ccclxpop and FFDB that I would like to post, but have
no
>personal web page. Would anyone be willing to host these files so I could
get
>them out to the HPLX community?
>
>Brian
>

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hello,

is it possible to delete the programs CCMAIL or LaplinkRemote
completely from the HP to save disk space? (a friend asked me because
he NEVER uses these programs)

TIA,

Werner




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David Sargeant is usually very generous with that type of
thing, and his server is very fast, perhaps you could ask
him . . .

Domingo

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 15, 2000 2:02:44 AM GMT
Subject: Would anyone like to host...


I have an update to ccclxpop and FFDB that I would like to
post, but have no
personal web page. Would anyone be willing to host these
files so I could get
them out to the HPLX community?

Brian

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Mon, 15 May 2000 09:04:42 -0400 (EDT)

39m35s ago ...
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> is it possible to delete the programs CCMAIL or LaplinkRemote
> completely from the HP to save disk space? (a friend asked me because
> he NEVER uses these programs)

NO!  All the built-in programs are in ROM, and can't be deleted.
Anyway, since they're in ROM, they take no disk space.  There may be
some related files on drive c: - but they CAN be deleted.  It's OK to
remove references to LaplinkRemote from the autoexec.bat.


Regards,

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 15:14:37 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Curtis,

> GDBWin is a really great program, but I have some questions about the
> menus, which are in funny characters because the program was written
> for the Japanese character set.
>
> If someone has figured them out, I'd like to know what they do.
> Especially one of them. If you click the fifth menu choice from the
> left (out of six), then the bottom choice in that sub-menu, you get a
> tabbed dialog box with seven tabs. It looks like they can set fonts,
> etc., but I'd like to know.

Same here, maybe somebody could contact the author and get permission
to translate it into english.

A great tool on the desktop!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 23:11:53 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Idea for a new util/Program  was Would anyone like to host...
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>I have an update to ccclxpop and FFDB that I would like to
>post, but have no
>personal web page. Would anyone be willing to host these
>files so I could get
>them out to the HPLX community?
>
>Brian

Hi all

This sparked a search for a free web space site I had heard about called
xdrive.
(25-100MB online storage)
http://refunders.epinions.com/cmd-review-637C-C139A26-3875487F-prod1 is a
rating/info page on it.  Seems they have written code that allows you to
"mount" the online storage whilst online then use drag/drop in windoze.

Is there any way a util could work on the LX that allowed the same system
via filer?  Maybe not with that particular site but similar ones are all
over now.

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 08:53:07 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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Does anyone have the english documentation for todo.exm?  This program
looks really neat, but I'm not sure how exactly it is intended to be used.

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 09:36:21 -0500
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<< when I try and open my orginal
phonebook (the one with all my  stuff in it), I get an error message
'cannot open file'.  Any suggestions out there as what to do?>>

Your phone data base file is corrupt. Your best shot is to download GARLIC
from www.palmtop.net.  (Search on "garlic").  The program was created by the
HP author of Phone and often fixes the problem.

If that doesn't work, things get tougher.  You can go to our web site at
www.palmtoppaper.com and search on words like garlic, corruption, bad file,
cannot open file, and find solutions we have written about in past HP
Palmtop Papers.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 09:40:07 -0500
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<<4000 palmtops?  That's great.  You can be in in business for years to
come,
hopefully.>>

Yep, that's what we think.

<<If I prepay, does it have to be a doublespeed palmtop, or can I purchase
one
with say 8 megabytes of RAM w/a one year warranty without the d/s?>>

Yes, either call 800 373 6114 or order it on the web.  On the web in the
comments field put DO NOT DOUBLE SPEED or some such thing.  The price is the
same.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 09:42:32 -0500
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Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote, WRT Gdbwin

>>maybe somebody could contact the author and get permission to translate it
into english. <<

The problem is that you'd have to know Japanese to correspond with the
author. He doesn't respond to English messages. Looks like we'll have to
resort to a group effort.

I'm working on an article about GDBWIN for the next issue of PTP. Once I get
something put together, I'll be looking for some "readers" who have tried
using the program and want to add their findings.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 09:48:00 -0500
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Hi.
I downloaded PC-TIME from SUPER, which lets you call a number to set your
system clock to the "official" atomic clocks.  However, when I try to
connect, I get "handshaking error" messages.
Does anyone here know how to use this program?

Thanks.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 09:50:09 -0500
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<<What does "Euro-English" imply, if anything?>>

EuroEnglish units are EXACTLY the same as U.S. units except for the markings
on the keyboard.

On the EuroEnglish keyboard there are additional blue markings to indicate
function key assignments that can general English pound sign, German umlaut,
Spanish tilde, etc.  (These functions also exist in the US version but are
not indicated).  In the EuroEnglish units there is not the written name of
the built-in app (Filer, APPT, PHONE, etc) in black under the app key as in
the US units.

I personally, like the EuroEnglish version better since it shows the
location of certain hidden keys.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 13:05:36 -0400
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Mon, 15 May 2000 11:31:15 -0400 (EDT)

Hi gang,

Does anybody know what the hell is reply 550 in a Mailer Daemon
message?  Just got this with a bounced mail.


TIA

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 13:05:34 -0400
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Mon, 15 May 2000 11:26:04 -0400 (EDT)

38m04s ago ...
On Mon, 15 May 2000, James P. Grenert wrote:

> Hi.
> I downloaded PC-TIME from SUPER, which lets you call a number to set =
your
> system clock to the "official" atomic clocks.  However, when I try to
> connect, I get "handshaking error" messages.
> Does anyone here know how to use this program?

The big problem with PC-TIME is that it's not Y2K compliant.  The last
several times I tried it, it established connection, accepted the
series of clock readings, then aborted without setting the clock.  The
last successful run I had was 12/31/99 -- and others here reported the
same problem.


Sorry, not much help...

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 11:41:46 -0400
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> What does "Euro-English" imply, if anything?
> Bill
>
FWIW, I have an "International English" version 100LX. The only difference I
have discerned between it and a "U.S. English" version is that it has a
different keyboard overlay. It does not have labels showing the functions of the
special palmtop keys, but it does show many of the special characters available
with ÝFn¨ key combinations.

I hope this helps...
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 11:57:27 -0400
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Werner Furlan wrote:

> hello,
>
> is it possible to delete the programs CCMAIL or LaplinkRemote
> completely from the HP to save disk space? (a friend asked me because
> he NEVER uses these programs)

Yes, but you'll have to replace the ROM which contains
these programs. It will not save you any disk space because
the programs sit on the ROM (d:) which is not a real drive,
just looks like one.

All the above must be considered as enclosed with one big
:-) of course! :)

  Avi

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 14:22:28 +0200
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Subject:      Re: CALDERA & WebSpyder

Jorgen Wallgren writes:
> Hi,
>
> > Since Caldera's WebSpyder was based, in least in part, upon the Arachne
> > source code, I doubt it could be run on the 200LX.  You might check the
> > Arachne web site...I know Micheal Polak (the developer of Arachne) was
> > working on a version that could run on the 200LX a few months ago.
>
> A version from 1997 willl run on 200LX. But if it's based upon Arachne,
> then I guess it's not much news. I need a browser which works with
> WATTCP and so far I have not seen a single browser which works ok-
> including DOSLYNX, Arachne etc.
>
> I guess the only solution is to write my own browser....

I thought the latest version of ARACHNE runs on the 200lx. I have run it and
found that it works but is slow. I have never WORKED with it though - just
tried to run it to see what happens. I managed to download cclxpop with it
from SUPER...

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 18:04:25 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Hi Loic,

> I wrote a quick/dirty VB procedure in outlook that automates the import of
> the ndb file. I use this with Curtis' Outlook to HP LX Converter and then I
> always have my 200LX synchronising Outlook, then the REX. If somebody
> wants it, let me know.

as posted erarlier, I am very interested!

Thanks a lot, regards

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 10:02:03 -0600
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Greetings,

I'm tinkering with an old Pilot Personal.  I wonder if there is a utility =
to move calendar items from the HP200LX into the Pilot's date book format?

FWIW, The Pilot's Graffiti and sketching input methods make it more suited =
to my fieldwork research (I'm an anthropologist-type).  I don't, however, =
see it as a replacement for the 200LX...

_don

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 12:47:54 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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I have been using the original HP95LX Chess from Andrew Glaister for years.
It came out as shareware for the 95LX but it plays just fine on the 200LX.
This program is just 5731 bytes in size!

You can select to play white or black and at any one of 5 levels.

This was originally posted to the CompuServe HPHand forum.  I think he
originally charged $25 to register but I don't know if he's even still
reachable.  The last number I had for Andrew was 708-670-8331.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 13:00:33 -0400
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>I have been using the original HP95LX Chess from Andrew
>Glaister for years.
>It came out as shareware for the 95LX but it plays just fine
>on the 200LX.
>This program is just 5731 bytes in size!

I like that one. It's fast and smart but not flexible (no editing/cheating
features). I've only beaten it on the lowest level but I'm not much of a
chess player.

He also wrote the best space invaders clone I've ever seen for the LX. I
found these email addresses on bigfoot.com. Not sure if he's one of them:

GLAISTER, ANDY andyg@ais.net
Glaister, Andy aglaister@fasainteractive.com

My bet is on the second email address cause it's a game company. Maybe we
can convince him to release the source code. I know he wrote it in straight
assembler.

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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 19:28:00 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Hello

This one looked interesting..but I love my Hp200lx too much to switch

http://www.dinside.no/ds/owa/a.vis?id=9817

The article is in Norwegian, but it should not be a problem reading
what it will have of specs.
(It does not have a modem but ir) It was first showed on Cebit and
nobody knows if this pda
will be avalible in Norway. Maybe this device has been discussed here
before..

It is a link to Samsungs webpage there somewhere too..

Regards
--
Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 13:51:02 -0400
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The English link is
http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 14:11:34 -0400
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I wonder if it'll ever make it out of the vaporware stage. Has anyone
actually seen one of these things? This would be a windows CE killer. It
looks fat like CE but will probably be lots more powerful running embedded
linux. You could probably run a dos emulator on this thing that'll run
faster than the LX.

BTW: Has anyone run XT-CE on any of the new faster ARM CE devices? How does
the speed compare to the LX. I run it on a 75MHZ/MIPS phillips nino and it
runs slower than a 1x LX but is usable.


>-----Original Message-----
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>The English link is
>http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/
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Date:         Mon, 15 May 2000 12:45:44 -0700
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Hi again,

In browsing on the SUPER site, I noticed several files w/GPS programs.  Can
anyone tell me how GPS works on the LX?  I presume you'd have to buy some
hardware device so that you can communicate with the Satelite?   Is there
perhaps a file somewhere that explains the process?  Thanks in advance for your
help/advice.    -Carla-

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From: neale.partington@sasktel.sk.ca
To: HPLX-L-request@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:51:53 -0600
Subject: list still alive?

Hi, just came across this list name in a web search and a resulting =
message from
1998.  Is the list still alive?  I'm still wishing I had synchro between =
my
200lx and Lotus Notes, especially the calendar, and wonder if this is the =
place
to find the answers?  If so, could I please be subscribed?

thanks.


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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> is it possible to delete the programs CCMAIL or LaplinkRemote
> completely from the HP to save disk space? (a friend asked me because
> he NEVER uses these programs)

No.  They are in ROM and take no disk space.  It might nice to recover
the space they use in Appmgr and any blue keys they use.

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              Cavalier Leonard W CRBE <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
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Another cool automation thing you can do with Lotus 1-2-3 (at least V.2.2 and later): if a spreadsheet file contains a macro named "\0" (that's backslash-zero) it will run automatically when the spreasheet is opened.  There a setting under /Worksheet,Global,Default,Autoexec to enable/disable this behavior, at least in V.2.4 in the 200LX.  Would be an in for a 1-2-3 virus or trojan horse or whatever.


Anyway, with this and the System Macros on the LX, you can do some pretty cool automatic stuff.


        - Leonard W. Cavalier
          cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil


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>
> Here's what I just captured, altho finding HELP without a search
> function made it, well, old fashioned (G):
>
> To retrieve a file when you start 1-2-3 from
> the operating system prompt, include a -w and
> the name of the file.  For example, enter
> 123 -wsales to start 1-2-3 and retrieve a file
> named SALES.WK1 from the default directory.
> (You can use a full path, for example,
> 123 -WC:\PARIS\SALES, to retrieve a file
> from a directory other than the default
> directory.)

Thanks.  I don't think I was ever aware of that.  And I used 123 a
lot at work.

Barry

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Bill,

In short, not a lot, apart from a few minor spelling differences. But I
think the keys on our European LXs may be different, e.g., above the
blue phonebook key,  shift gets the "#"sign (maybe the same in the US?)
but the purple Fn key gets the "#" sign. Is this different? Some other
keys may be relocated too. I'd be interested to know if the umlauts and
other European accents reached with the Fn key over  some numbers on the
keypad are implemented on the US models.

Richard


Bill Krauss wrote:

> What does "Euro-English" imply, if anything?
> Bill
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I've just read my reply to Bill on this subject, only to find that my US
Netscape browser made nonsense of my reply. The English pound sign which is on
shift 3 above the qwerty keyboard appears OK when I type it; but when I sent it
and read it with from a download it came back as the hash sign. You can't win
'em all.

Richard

Hal Goldstein wrote:

> <<What does "Euro-English" imply, if anything?>>
>
> EuroEnglish units are EXACTLY the same as U.S. units except for the markings
> on the keyboard.
>
> On the EuroEnglish keyboard there are additional blue markings to indicate
> function key assignments that can general English pound sign, German umlaut,
> Spanish tilde, etc.  (These functions also exist in the US version but are
> not indicated).  In the EuroEnglish units there is not the written name of
> the built-in app (Filer, APPT, PHONE, etc) in black under the app key as in
> the US units.
>
> I personally, like the EuroEnglish version better since it shows the
> location of certain hidden keys.
>
> hal at thaddeus
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> Hi again,

And back to you! (g)

> hardware device so that you can communicate with the Satelite?   Is there
> perhaps a file somewhere that explains the process?  Thanks in advance for your

One or more of those apps may contain info on the process but yes, you
need a gps receiver which would connect to the serial port of the HP
with a generally proprietary cable that mates with the gps.
Not all gps contain such a port.

gps range in price from about $100 to 400.  The upper range now contain
their own maps or cd's with maps that can be downloaded to the gps.

some folks like the concept but for field work, skiing, hiking or
biking, the hp may be too fragile or rain affected!  I played in the car
a few times.

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The subject of Arachne came up recently on the Omnibook mailing
list.  Others and I concluded that it runs waaaaay too slow on even a 486
Omnibook, so I don't think it would be a reasonable option for the LX.

J. P. Grenert
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Peniel and List:
I found another program (less user-friendly and fewer features) that
appears to be Y2K compliant.  It is NISTIMED, available via FTP from:
ftp://time-b.nist.gov/pub/acts
The program is NISTIMED.EXE, and you will also need a configuration
program there called MAKECFG.EXE.  Documentation is in NISTIME.DES and
README.TXT.
I set it up without too much problem (I guessed at some of the questions
in the configuration program), and it worked on the first try.

Hope this is useful.
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Hi friends,

sorry, I know that this was discussed before, but I'm in a hurry now
and I need to know a few things without searching the list archive.
Please help me!

1. I'd lke to know which cheap GPS receivers work with the 200LX
   What features does the receiver have to have?

2. Is it really that easy: I download or scan a street map of a city,
convert it to PCX b/w, load it into LXGPS (for example), calibrate it
with two known points and then am able to use it for GPS? Can LXGPS
zoom into the map, so that it's possible to e.g. read street names?
Does LXGPS scroll the map if you move out of the screen's area?

3. would you recommend using a cheap GPS receiver in combination with
the LX?

TNX
daniel

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hello,

thank you all for your comments about deleting system manager programs
on the HP200. Everything is clear now.
Avi: I thought about cutting out the not used part of ROM; but it looks
quite hard and would ruin the blade of my knife. So I decided to leave
it as it is. :-)

Werner


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It sounds to me like you are getting set up for some disappointment.
I am both a longtime GPS user and a longtime HP200 User, but I have never
had the slightest interest in combining the two.

At various stages I have tried lots of combinations of various GPS and
various computers. I currently use a Garmin GPS III+ do all of the
related computer work on one of my desktop or portable machines, most
commonly using MapSource (which downloads maps of the US into the GPS III+)
and Street Atlas 7 (which has street maps and routing).

I have travelled with my GPS _and_ a computer in the car a few times, but
found that the computer didn't add anything to the process (the GPS III+
has internal maps), and was both a distraction to driving and a considerable
nuiscance. So I quit doing that and now just use my GPS for all `live' work
in the car. I also travel with complete maps (in my highly portable Libretto)
and use the libretto to download my tracks when my GPS III memory fills up.
As a regular habit I always `empty' my GPS into some computer and save the
tracks, so I have point accurate records that now cover several years and
lots of points between the Western US and Eastern Europe.

Having had a GPS without built in maps, and now having one with built-in maps,
I'd say there is a trememdous difference between the two. For my use and
convenience, built-in maps are _definitely_ worth the extra cost. I also
found the process of scanning and loading the maps to be a real nuiscance
given the quality of maps that were available (here in the US) for relatively
modest amounts of money. Again I quickly gave up doing much of that.

On a full color screen with 1024 x 768 resolution, the maps (for example from
Street Atlas 7  are _very_ readable. As you move to monochrome, CGA resolution
and not much grey scale, they become harder and harder to read. To my aging
eyes, viewing on the 200 screen was clearly not worth the effort, but then I
have lots of alternatives available so I didn't try to struggle.

Of course this is all highly idiosyncratic, and YMMV. I have no doubt you'll
hear from others that love doing GPS on their 200s. I love both my GPS and
my 200, but I don't find the combination useful in this case. In general I
find there is a world of difference between being able to use my GPS _without_
attaching it to anything, and having to carry a computer of any kind to make
it useful.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> ...
>
> 1. I'd lke to know which cheap GPS receivers work with the 200LX
>    What features does the receiver have to have?
>
> 2. Is it really that easy: I download or scan a street map of a city,
> convert it to PCX b/w, load it into LXGPS (for example), calibrate it
> with two known points and then am able to use it for GPS? Can LXGPS
> zoom into the map, so that it's possible to e.g. read street names?
> Does LXGPS scroll the map if you move out of the screen's area?
>
> 3. would you recommend using a cheap GPS receiver in combination with
> the LX?
>
> TNX
> daniel
>
> Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de

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do you mean the yopy?

http://www.yopy.org/

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Hi friends,

what a coincidence! Somebody just asked a similar question. I
downloaded  his message simultanously with the uploading of my posting. :-)

But I would like to add something to my first posting:

3. Does anyone have a simple GPS receiver (with data cable) that he
doesn't need anymore that he
could sell for up to 100 US$? (Of course, it has to work with the LX,
preferrably also with LXGPS)

4. Today I had a look at the Garmin GPS 12 and the Garmin eTrex. Both
cost 368 DM here in Germany (i.e. abt. 180 US$) plus a very high price
for the data cables (abt. 40-50 US$). Is it too much? Are
they cheaper in USA or somwhere else? If yes, would anyone be so kind
to buy one and forward it to me (Berlin, Germany)?

5. Which simple (and cheap) GPS receivers are KNOWN to work with the LX
and LXGPS? (did I ask that already before?)


Thanks for your patience,

daniel

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Hi,

There is a much better way to set your 200LX time after an atomic clock!
Setup DOSPPP dailer and packet driver. Then when you are connected to =
your
ISP- you run the NTIME.EXE program which comes in the WATTCP package.


Regards,

Jorgen

> I downloaded PC-TIME from SUPER, which lets you call a number to set =
your
> system clock to the "official" atomic clocks.  However, when I try to
> connect, I get "handshaking error" messages.
> Does anyone here know how to use this program?

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Hi,

> I thought the latest version of ARACHNE runs on the 200lx. I have run =
it and
> found that it works but is slow. I have never WORKED with it though - =
just
> tried to run it to see what happens. I managed to download cclxpop with =
it
> from SUPER...

Yes, it runs on the 200LX. But it takes so much memory, that a Software
Carousel session is not enough on my unit. It's also very slow and has
plenty of bugs. But it might be a good start.

Regards,

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On 16 May 2000, at 5:05, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Date:    Mon, 15 May 2000 00:40:03 -0400
> From:    Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> Subject: Fwd: HP200LX using Desktop PC Modem?
>
> Hellu..
>
> Told this guy to join us. Until he do please Cc: him the reply..
good Idea.
>
> I have never seen his problem before. I have seen a program to use the
> modem in the Hplx pcmciaslot for the desktop pc. But not an internal
> modem on a desktop Be used by the Hplx. But some serial trick could be
> done maybe?
>
> Regards
>
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>
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: "Stephen Cross" <SteveCross@bigfoot.com>
> Subject: HP200LX using Desktop PC Modem?
> Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:35:51 +0100
>
> Can I get my HP200LX to directly use my desktops internal modem. Any
> pointers?
>
> Steve Cross
> SteveCross@bigfoot.com
>
in this statement I do not see, if you have already tried...
If you really start, the questions will be more precise.
e.g. where can I get a cable to connect the modem with the serial port,
what are the parameters to be set for my special modem...

Every modem I tried (in the meantime about 6 or 7 different types)
worked. Sometimes I needed a special init-string to slow down the modem
speed to the serials capabiltities.

regards,
Werner



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This is a test message.

I've been away for a while. Yesterday morning I reactivated my mail from
this list but I haven't received any yet, which is surprising. This list =
is
usually so active. =


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>Alain,
>
>you can not, the 700LX requires the Nokia 2110 for it's craddle (infrared
>connections as for the 200LX described on this list).
>
>I still use the 700 with the Nokia 2110 when travelling and in fact I just
>bought 2 spare phones in Australia during a recent stay in Adelaide where
>all the "Cash Converter" shops carry them at really reasonable prices
>(customers want the more fancy small machines and do not care so much about
>the still exceptional quality and reliability). I got them for A$ 75.00
with
>chargers and working batteries (got even a vibrating battery in good
>condition for A$ 2.--). And in these shops I also found some really
>interesting DOS software at bargain prices! Noticed that you live in
>Australia so probably you could use the hint.
>regards
>Hemann Michael Blum
>
>>From:    Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
>>Subject: Re: HP 700LX's available was RE: Prepay for palmtop
>>
>>hi, can you connect a Nokia 5110 to the 700LX? regards Alain
>

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Tue, 16 May 2000 09:48:56 -0500 (EST)

Yes, I took this approach, and it worked fine as well!

AJKind

03h20m35s ago ...
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There is a much better way to set your 200LX time after an atomic =
clock!

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You can reassign them with key200, however. I have reassigned Quicken key to
open FFDB.exm.

Brian


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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> is it possible to delete the programs CCMAIL or LaplinkRemote
> completely from the HP to save disk space? (a friend asked me because
> he NEVER uses these programs)

No.  They are in ROM and take no disk space.  It might nice to recover
the space they use in Appmgr and any blue keys they use.

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Subscriber Comments: any info on 2nd hand or new 200lxs' and a program
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> Can I get my HP200LX to directly use my desktops internal modem. Any
> pointers?
>
> Steve Cross
> SteveCross@bigfoot.com
>
Steve,

I haven't tried it, but this program apparently does what you want:

http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/comchk18.zip

From the description on SUPER ( http://palmtop.net/super.html ):

"COMMCHK (31 KB) added 01/07/1998 (Communication)
Version 1.8 by Timothy L. Garrison

COMMCHK is a serial protocol analyzer that will intercept and allow you to view
information on a serial line in either HEX or ASCII
formats. Will also allow you to turn your palmtop into an expensive, external
modem for use with your desktop. Freeware."

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Check: http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3576289&prmenbr=8000

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On Tue, 16 May 2000 09:17:35 +0100, Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> wrote:

> do you mean the yopy?
>
> http://www.yopy.org/

Yep it is the same unit..

Looks flashy, but it will never replace my Hplx.

Here is another link to something which will be released soon in the
US:

http://www.lgic.co.kr/eng/product/phone/cdma/lgi3000w.html

In Europe the Ericsson R380 will be out this summer. We already have
the Nokia 9110. I prefer a small phone and then a pda with a keyboard.
So a pda/phone combo is not the way to go for me.

This means that I will stay with my Hplx and maybe buy a second phone
which is smaller since my 7110 is a bit bulky. A Nokia 8210 and Rex3
card when I want to travel "light" :-)

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Tue, 16 May 2000 11:55:35 -0500 (EST)

Hi:

   After espousing the virtues of Ntime, I tried it with my ACCTON cart
   on my Lab/Univertisy network, but can't get a connection? Works fine
   thru my dial-up.

   My tcp.cfg looks like this:

my_ip=3Dbootp
netmask=3D255.255.255.0
gateway=3D
nameserver=3D
domainslist=3D
hostname=3D

   When I try to run NTime over the network, I get a

   "WATTCP.CFG not found"
   "configuring thru BOOTP"

   then the program just stalls...what am I missing here?

   aTdHvAaNnKcSe...AJKind



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To: greg
Subject: LXGPS 1.6 now available
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:03:12 -0700
From: Greg Renda <greg@hobbes.nuvomedia.com>

LXGPS 1.6 is now available from http://www.jps.net/renda/greg.  This
release dramatically improves the accuracy of your GPS receiver.  Oh,
wait.  Maybe someone else was responsible for that :-).  If you
haven't heard, the government has turned off Selective Availablility.
That was the intentional fuzzing of the GPS signal that caused your
position to be reported less accurately.

The major new feature in this release of LXGPS is the addition of
waypoint lists.  When you use a waypoint list LXGPS will automatically
switch from waypoint to waypoint.  I've also put a lot of work into
bullet-proofing LXPGS so bad data won't cause a crash.  There are also
the usual minor bug fixes and tweaks.

I appreciate the bug reports and suggestions I've received.  Keep 'em
coming.

- -Greg

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If there were some way to reliably sync with Lotus Notes R5, all the
pressure to abandon my 200LX would evaporate.  Are there any others with
the same problem.  Is there any possibility of a solution?

With more people using groupware software for work, the splendid isolation
of the 200LX is becoming a major problem.  One of the reasons for the Palm
success is that it can be synched to Lotus Notes as well as almost every
desktop organizer.  My office would adopt the 200LX for everyone if it were
possible to sync with Notes and hence avoid double entry of all address,
calendering, etc. entries.

Guidance and assistance will be gratefully and cheerfully received.

Larry Fast

-----------------
>Hi Loic,

>> I wrote a quick/dirty VB procedure in outlook that automates the import
of
>> the ndb file. I use this with Curtis' Outlook to HP LX Converter and
then I
>> always have my 200LX synchronising Outlook, then the REX. If somebody
>> wants it, let me know.

>as posted erarlier, I am very interested!

Me too!

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On Tue, 16 May 2000, Al Kind wrote:

>    After espousing the virtues of Ntime, I tried it with my ACCTON cart
>    on my Lab/Univertisy network, but can't get a connection? Works fine
>    thru my dial-up.

Ý...¨

>    When I try to run NTime over the network, I get a
>
>    "WATTCP.CFG not found"
>    "configuring thru BOOTP"
>
>    then the program just stalls...what am I missing here?


I dunno.  I get the same messages if I run NTIME during a dial-up
session, but then it does fine configuring thru BOOTP (apparently).
On my Accton card I get the same messages, but then it fails.

I've posted before that I get LXFTP and LXMTA to work okay over my
LAN connection, but can't get LXTELNET to work.  I don't know if
it's a firewall thing, or if I just don't have things configured
right.  If you find out anything, I would love to know too.

Ted

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Tue, 16 May 2000 15:07:13 -0500 (EST)

I've had good luck with both dial-up & LAN using Mike Kopplin's LXgFTP.

...& NTime works OK Dialup...haven't tried any of the other apps.

Cheers...AJKind

01h39m20s ago ...
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Theodore Heise wrote:

> On Tue, 16 May 2000, Al Kind wrote:
>
> >    After espousing the virtues of Ntime, I tried it with my ACCTON =
cart
> >    on my Lab/Univertisy network, but can't get a connection? Works =
fine
> >    thru my dial-up.
>
> Ý...¨
>
> >    When I try to run NTime over the network, I get a
> >
> >    "WATTCP.CFG not found"
> >    "configuring thru BOOTP"
> >
> >    then the program just stalls...what am I missing here?
>
> I dunno.  I get the same messages if I run NTIME during a dial-up
> session, but then it does fine configuring thru BOOTP (apparently).
> On my Accton card I get the same messages, but then it fails.
>
> I've posted before that I get LXFTP and LXMTA to work okay over my
> LAN connection, but can't get LXTELNET to work.  I don't know if
> it's a firewall thing, or if I just don't have things configured
> right.  If you find out anything, I would love to know too.
>
> Ted
>
> --
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Hi All,

Here's a slightly different view.  I'm in my thirties and doing computer work,
so I am only at the starting curve of loosing sight on my 200LX:)

I ran APRS on my HP200LX+GPS+Ham radio on my dash board.  When I
go 4-wheeling, I use it to navigate the dirt roads, record our tracks, and send
position report to Ham radio.  The only painful part is map generation.  But
it is really fun.  My GPS does not have built in map so I can't comment on
the usefulness in the country side.

Alfred

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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: GPS once more

It sounds to me like you are getting set up for some disappointment.
I am both a longtime GPS user and a longtime HP200 User, but I have never
had the slightest interest in combining the two.

At various stages I have tried lots of combinations of various GPS and
various computers. I currently use a Garmin GPS III+ do all of the
related computer work on one of my desktop or portable machines, most
commonly using MapSource (which downloads maps of the US into the GPS III+)
and Street Atlas 7 (which has street maps and routing).

I have travelled with my GPS _and_ a computer in the car a few times, but
found that the computer didn't add anything to the process (the GPS III+
has internal maps), and was both a distraction to driving and a considerable
nuiscance. So I quit doing that and now just use my GPS for all `live' work
in the car. I also travel with complete maps (in my highly portable Libretto)
and use the libretto to download my tracks when my GPS III memory fills up.
As a regular habit I always `empty' my GPS into some computer and save the
tracks, so I have point accurate records that now cover several years and
lots of points between the Western US and Eastern Europe.

Having had a GPS without built in maps, and now having one with built-in maps,
I'd say there is a trememdous difference between the two. For my use and
convenience, built-in maps are _definitely_ worth the extra cost. I also
found the process of scanning and loading the maps to be a real nuiscance
given the quality of maps that were available (here in the US) for relatively
modest amounts of money. Again I quickly gave up doing much of that.

On a full color screen with 1024 x 768 resolution, the maps (for example from
Street Atlas 7  are _very_ readable. As you move to monochrome, CGA resolution
and not much grey scale, they become harder and harder to read. To my aging
eyes, viewing on the 200 screen was clearly not worth the effort, but then I
have lots of alternatives available so I didn't try to struggle.

Of course this is all highly idiosyncratic, and YMMV. I have no doubt you'll
hear from others that love doing GPS on their 200s. I love both my GPS and
my 200, but I don't find the combination useful in this case. In general I
find there is a world of difference between being able to use my GPS _without_
attaching it to anything, and having to carry a computer of any kind to make
it useful.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> ...
>
> 1. I'd lke to know which cheap GPS receivers work with the 200LX
>    What features does the receiver have to have?
>
> 2. Is it really that easy: I download or scan a street map of a city,
> convert it to PCX b/w, load it into LXGPS (for example), calibrate it
> with two known points and then am able to use it for GPS? Can LXGPS
> zoom into the map, so that it's possible to e.g. read street names?
> Does LXGPS scroll the map if you move out of the screen's area?
>
> 3. would you recommend using a cheap GPS receiver in combination with
> the LX?
>
> TNX
> daniel
>
> Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de

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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> I've had good luck with both dial-up & LAN using Mike Kopplin's LXgFTP.
>
> ...& NTime works OK Dialup...haven't tried any of the other apps.
> > >    When I try to run NTime over the network, I get a
> > >
> > >    "WATTCP.CFG not found"
> > >    "configuring thru BOOTP"
> > >

Do you have a wattcp.cfg file? If you have an older version of NTIME, I
believe it requires the use of a wattcp.cfg file rather than tcp.cfg.


> > I've posted before that I get LXFTP and LXMTA to work okay over my
> > LAN connection, but can't get LXTELNET to work.  I don't know if
> > it's a firewall thing, or if I just don't have things configured
> > right.  If you find out anything, I would love to know too.

LXTELNET is very unforgiving of any syntax errors in your tcp.cfg file,
much more so than the other LXxxxx apps. In particular, look for empty
quotes, or an equals sign with nothing on the right side or just a
comment.

Mike Kopplin

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On 2000-05-13 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >Hi
   >I know a dealer in South Africa that has 20 HP 700LX's available at
   >around $170 each. These units are all brand new and I think most of
   >the boxes are still sealed.
   >I know that the 700LX is not as popular as the 200 since it's a bit
   >more bulky, but I love mine!!
   >Would you be interested? I know it does not really compete with
   >4000 (wow wow wow) of 200LX units!!

I would indeed be interested.  If you have his information, I would greatly
appreciate it.  Does he ship to the United States?


Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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I just got an 85meg SanDisk and can't get it to work in my
machine.  I have no documentation for it.  I have a 6meg card
which works fine..
I inserted the card (power off), turned it on and loaded filer,
which didn't recognize it.  I went from there to dos, loaded xtree,
attempted to change from C to A and got "device not ready,
cancel or retry".  Tried retry several times to no avail.  Went to
dos, tried to go to A, got "not ready reading drive a, abort, retry,
or fail" and all 3 functions kept repeating until I powered off and
retried with the 6meg card.  Tried format (from filer and from the command
line) with the same results.
Do I need a special driver for this card?  The card is labeled:
85mb flashdisk pcmcia pc card ata
It doesn't say anything about type I or type II anywhere..
It appears to be in new condition, and I bought it from a highly
recommended source, so my first instinct tells me it's good.
Please help!

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It is probably irrelevant to your problem, but I have a Simple Tech card which
works _much_ better if it is inserted while the 200 is on, rather than
inserted before the power is on. For this card apparently something is done
in the `process change in state of PCMCIA slot' program that isn't invoked
in the PO sequence if the card is already there,

"T. McCoy" wrote:
>
> I just got an 85meg SanDisk and can't get it to work in my
> machine.  I have no documentation for it.  I have a 6meg card
> which works fine..
> I inserted the card (power off), turned it on and loaded filer,
> which didn't recognize it.  I went from there to dos, loaded xtree,
> ...

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You might try d:/bin/fdisk100.exe before the format.  That command does the
lowest level initialization of the disk.

I don't believe Sandisk cards need drivers ... none of mine did (tho I didn't
have that specific one).

- Longden





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Subject:  85m SanDisk




I just got an 85meg SanDisk and can't get it to work in my
machine.  I have no documentation for it.  I have a 6meg card
which works fine..
I inserted the card (power off), turned it on and loaded filer,
which didn't recognize it.  I went from there to dos, loaded xtree,
attempted to change from C to A and got "device not ready,
cancel or retry".  Tried retry several times to no avail.  Went to
dos, tried to go to A, got "not ready reading drive a, abort, retry,
or fail" and all 3 functions kept repeating until I powered off and
retried with the 6meg card.  Tried format (from filer and from the command
line) with the same results.
Do I need a special driver for this card?  The card is labeled:
85mb flashdisk pcmcia pc card ata
It doesn't say anything about type I or type II anywhere..
It appears to be in new condition, and I bought it from a highly
recommended source, so my first instinct tells me it's good.
Please help!

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 15:55:57 -0500
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              Thomas Rundel <palmtop@RUNDEL-D.COM>
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Gary,

yes, I still have my old CompuServe ID and I do monitor this group,
but I have a huge backlog and it takes me a while to respond. :-)

The IR software and everything else I wrote is available on my web
site, www.rundel.net/palmtop - just follow the "Software" link.

Tom


On 30 Apr 2000 08:38:21 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET> wrote:

 > Tom Rundel, the author of Accis the palmtop Compuserve access program,
 > wrote a sysmgr exm called IR-Print for this purpose. Not sure where a
 > copy could be found these days but Tom is still on the Compuserve
 > palmtop forum. I think his email is 100023.2477@compuserve.com but
 > that may have been a HP sponsored account. I think Tom monitors this
 > group so perhaps he will pop up or someone else will correct me.
 >
 > GaryS
 >
 > > Has anyone ever used the HP calculator printer (the IR enabled) HP82240B
 > > printer with an HP200LX?
 > >
 > > Thanks
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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 23:15:10 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Jim,

I post this message to the list, because there seems to be more
interest in this issue.

On Mon, 15 May 2000 09:03:39 -0400, Jim Westley <jwestley@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >Hi Daniel,
>
> This does seem to do the trick. I can make the flickering squares come and
> go with pressure on the left side of the case. Is it major or minor surgery
> to repair?

Okay, then I'll guide you to the solution of your probmem (hopefully):

You need:

- a Torx 6 screwdriver (pull out one of the rubber feet at the bottom
of the LX to see if the screwdriver fits, when you are standing in the
store and don't know if it'll fit)

- a small, sharp blade or a razor blade

It'll be not that difficult, so don't be afraid!


Switch the palmtop off and keep it opened (screen).

The foil (or cover - I don6t know a better English word for it -- I
mean this thing on which "HP Hewlett Packard 200LX  Palmtop PC * xMB
RAM", the F key numbers and "Packet Quicken" and "Lotis 123 cc:mail"
are written. This thing that covers the edge of the screen) has to be
pryed off from the screen. At least on the left side. So take the
blade and carefully try to pry off the cover in the lower left or upper
left corner between the cover and the outer edge of the screen (don't
try to lever it off directly on the screen surface - it could damage
the screen glass).

If you can take hold of the cover with your fingers, you can stop to
use the blade, and simply pull the cover away from the screen. It's
glued onto the screen's edge with double-adhesive tape, so you'll not
damage anything when simply pulling it away.
You can either pull the cover entirely away or you can stop when it's
pulled off until the middle of the screen.

Now you see two Torx-6 screws on the left side.

Try to fasten them. If they were loose, you already solved the problem.

If they were not loose, drive them out and try to wiggle a little bit
around with the screen circuit, so eventually dirty contakts can be
cleaned. Then fasten the screws again.

That should solve the problem.

Hope this helped,

daniel


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On Tue, 16 May 2000 17:14:21 +0000, fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

Hi Fred,

On Tue, 16 May 2000 17:14:21 +0000, fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Check: http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3576289&prmenbr=8000

Thanks! Now I knoe the eTrex is very much cheaper at REI - but they
seem to require a membership.

I'm currently examining the prices of used (older) GPS receivers. The
Garmin GPS 45 XL seems to be a nice device. And costs not so much, even
here in Germany.


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 09:29:43 +1200
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Hi Listers.

Can someone who knows about this printer tell us a little about it please?
I see it is a 40-column thermal, but can it be used to print 80 cols in
some sort of compressed mode? How useful is it to a 200LX user? How big
is it? Any URL with a photo (none on the HP site)?

Cheers, Roger

>yes, I still have my old CompuServe ID and I do monitor this group,
>but I have a huge backlog and it takes me a while to respond. :-)
>The IR software and everything else I wrote is available on my web
>site, www.rundel.net/palmtop - just follow the "Software" link.
>Tom
>
>On 30 Apr 2000 08:38:21 -0700, Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET> wrote:
>> Tom Rundel, the author of Accis the palmtop Compuserve access program,
>> wrote a sysmgr exm called IR-Print for this purpose. Not sure where a
>> copy could be found these days but Tom is still on the Compuserve
>> palmtop forum. I think his email is 100023.2477@compuserve.com but
>> that may have been a HP sponsored account. I think Tom monitors this
>> group so perhaps he will pop up or someone else will correct me.
>>
>>> Has anyone ever used the HP calculator printer (the IR enabled)
HP82240B
>>> printer with an HP200LX?

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 23:50:03 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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>The problem is that you'd have to know Japanese to correspond with the
>author

i can speak Japanese and write in "romaji" (roman characters replacing kana,
for which DOS-V is needed)  ...if the author is willing

what is his address?

the following Japanese list members have been communicating with me in
romaji and may also help with asking the author:

--------------------------------------------
 Kazu (Kazuhisa Tanabe)
 Kyoto, Japan
 E-mail QWQ11433@nifty.ne.jp

his daughter: <YRL05230@nifty.ne.jp>

-------------------------------------------

or

--------------------------------------------
Akinobu Fukuzaki
Tokyo Metropolitan Institute of Technology
 Akinobu Fukuzaki
TEL  81-42-585-8600 ext.3108
e-mail: fukuzaki@cap.bekkoame.ne.jp
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on a different note
what is your highest score at lines?
i can't get past 570

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 16:54:06 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Tue, 16 May 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> Do you have a wattcp.cfg file? If you have an older version of NTIME, I
> believe it requires the use of a wattcp.cfg file rather than tcp.cfg.

That's correct, but I get the same error even after copying tcp.cfg
to wattcp.cfg.  The only relevant line in that config file seems to
be "my_ip=bootp" anyway.


> LXTELNET is very unforgiving of any syntax errors in your tcp.cfg file,
> much more so than the other LXxxxx apps. In particular, look for empty
> quotes, or an equals sign with nothing on the right side or just a
> comment.

Does this mean I must supply a parameter for "hostname="?  I thought
this was taken from the BOOTP.   (I'm sure my ignorance is showing.)

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 18:23:48 -0400
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On Wed, 17 May 2000 09:29:43 +1200 Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
writes:
> Hi Listers.
>
> Can someone who knows about this printer tell us a little about it
> please?
> I see it is a 40-column thermal, but can it be used to print 80 cols
> in some sort of compressed mode? How useful is it to a 200LX user? How
> big is it? Any URL with a photo (none on the HP site)?

I wish it would do what you said above.  Perhaps it might do it
with the HP48 calculator (I don't have one so I don't know).
With the palmtop it prints like a supermarket receipt.   Very
interesting, but when I attempted to use it for practical purposes,
I found it too slow.  I still use it once in a while as a curiousity.
My wife and kids are very impress by this capacity, but aside from
the cool factor, I am not sure it is very useful, because of the
limitations
in print style, size, and speed.   This is mostly a software issue,
except for
the speed part.   If Tom Rundel could be encouraged to update the program
to do some more than what it does, I would be interested.  :-)

As usual, YMMV.

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 15:11:04 -0700
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> > Do you have a wattcp.cfg file? If you have an older version of NTIME, I
> > believe it requires the use of a wattcp.cfg file rather than tcp.cfg.
>
> That's correct, but I get the same error even after copying tcp.cfg
> to wattcp.cfg.  The only relevant line in that config file seems to
> be "my_ip=bootp" anyway.

I'll try NTIME later today, and see if it works for me.


> > LXTELNET is very unforgiving of any syntax errors in your tcp.cfg file,
> > much more so than the other LXxxxx apps. In particular, look for empty
> > quotes, or an equals sign with nothing on the right side or just a
> > comment.
>
> Does this mean I must supply a parameter for "hostname="?  I thought
> this was taken from the BOOTP.   (I'm sure my ignorance is showing.)

From what I understand, a BOOTP server may, or may not, provide this
information, but what's important here is that if you have a line like

hostname=      ;with or without a comment

then the rest of the file will not be read correctly by LXTELNET. So, if
you're not using a parameter, don't leave it blank. Comment out the whole
line.

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 22:37:57 GMT
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Hello, I have a European/spanish 200 lx. When I write something in spanish
with MEMO and then transfer it to my Laptop all the spanish caracters are
substituted by strange symbols. Therefore, I cannot get  typical Spanish
caracters like q (n with a line on top) or spanish accents over the letters.
Does somebody know how can I solve this problem? I use Windows and Word
2000.are there any spanish members in this list?

Thanks,

Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 18:49:43 -0400
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Descargate este programa:
http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/lx2win12.zip

Hace exactamente lo que buscas.

Buena suerte.

Domingo

P.S. De Word al HPLX, guarda el fichero como MSDOS TEXT, y
el resultado es igual.

------Original Message------
From: xxxxx xxxxxxx <imardem@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 16, 2000 10:37:57 PM GMT
Subject: Problems with Spanish caracters


Hello, I have a European/spanish 200 lx. When I write
something in spanish
with MEMO and then transfer it to my Laptop all the spanish
caracters are
substituted by strange symbols. Therefore, I cannot get
typical Spanish
caracters like q (n with a line on top) or spanish accents
over the letters.
Does somebody know how can I solve this problem? I use
Windows and Word
2000.are there any spanish members in this list?

Thanks,

Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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Descargate este programa:
http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/lx2win12.zip

Este program convierte el texto de MSDOS al texto de
Windows, y viceversa.

Buena suerte.

Domingo

P.S. De Word al HPLX, guarda el fichero como MSDOS TEXT, y
el resultado es igual.

------Original Message------
From: xxxxx xxxxxxx <imardem@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 16, 2000 10:37:57 PM GMT
Subject: Problems with Spanish caracters


Hello, I have a European/spanish 200 lx. When I write
something in spanish
with MEMO and then transfer it to my Laptop all the spanish
caracters are
substituted by strange symbols. Therefore, I cannot get
typical Spanish
caracters like q (n with a line on top) or spanish accents
over the letters.
Does somebody know how can I solve this problem? I use
Windows and Word
2000.are there any spanish members in this list?

Thanks,

Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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Subject:      Re: HP 82240B printer and the HP200LX
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Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
> can it be used to print 80 cols in
> some sort of compressed mode?
I don't think so.

> How useful is it to a 200LX user?
Not very.

> How big is it?
Palmsized
> Any URL with a photo (none on the HP site)?

http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/monitor/813/hp_prn.jpg


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Tue, 16 May 2000 19:24:58 -0400 (EDT)

03h17m57s ago ...
On Tue, 16 May 2000, T. McCoy wrote:

> I just got an 85meg SanDisk and can't get it to work in my
> machine.  I have no documentation for it.  I have a 6meg card
> which works fine..

Hmmm --  you don't mention if your machine is a 100LX or a 200LX.  The
200LX should recognize the card with no problem.  The 100 will probably
need a driver (ACECARD.COM).


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Netscape 4.6 (NOTE 4.6 NOT 4.7!) Enterprise Calendar works
somewhat. And it is free.

I am using Intellilink (200lx), to  Schedule+ (win95) then
to Intellisync (palm pilot). And the other way around. I'm
using schedle+ as I'm also fiddling with a velo 1 wince 1.0
machine.

Donald Winiecki wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm tinkering with an old Pilot Personal.  I wonder if there is a utility to move calendar items from the HP200LX into the Pilot's date book format?
>
> FWIW, The Pilot's Graffiti and sketching input methods make it more suited to my fieldwork research (I'm an anthropologist-type).  I don't, however, see it as a replacement for the 200LX...
>
> _don
>
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At 09:01 PM 5/16/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Tue, 16 May 2000 19:24:58 -0400 (EDT)
>
>03h17m57s ago ...
>On Tue, 16 May 2000, T. McCoy wrote:
>
>> I just got an 85meg SanDisk and can't get it to work in my
>> machine.  I have no documentation for it.  I have a 6meg card
>> which works fine..
>
>Hmmm --  you don't mention if your machine is a 100LX or a 200LX.  The
>200LX should recognize the card with no problem.  The 100 will probably
>need a driver (ACECARD.COM).

If it's the 200, it should work fine.
I have a 220MB Sandisk in my 200LX.

Paul



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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> thank you all for your comments about deleting system manager programs
> on the HP200. Everything is clear now.
> Avi: I thought about cutting out the not used part of ROM; but it looks
> quite hard and would ruin the blade of my knife. So I decided to leave
> it as it is. :-)

ROFL...  Since I believe I have your address, I will send
to you a spare knife - hack away, my friend! :)

>     Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.

Love the sound of bagpipes...

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Did anyone see the lik on D&A page regarding SETI?

Please email privately, thank you!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 21:04:34 -0400
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Carla,
 I use my older 200LX 4mb unit with a Delorme Tripmate and LXGPS. LXGPS you can get
from the Super Site. The Tripmate didn't cost that much. As I remember I paid
$100.00 for it. This GPS doesn't have its own display but links to the 200LX
through the serial port.
 For maps I use either Street Atlas USA or scan my own topographic maps. The maps
must be converted to black and white format before use. The must also be
calibrated. Calibration is an easy process once you get the hang of it. I usually
edit some reference points corresponding to know longitude and latitude. The
document for LXGPS will give more details on this. I use it in the field to
reaquire contact points with certain geologic features I am studying. I would
suggest if you use the 200LX in the field, you purchase a divers clear back or make
one of your own. A good quality freezer back, zip locked, is what I'm using right
now. These don't cost as much and protect it just as well. I also have a dessicator
pouch on the underside of the 200LX in the bag because I live in such a humid
climate. I have never had any problems using these devices in this way. Care should
be taken to have on hand a really water tight bag in case one gets caught in a
heavy rain. This is where the divers back comes in really handy.

Hope this helps,
William E. Blankenship

Carla Ruigh wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> In browsing on the SUPER site, I noticed several files w/GPS programs.  Can
> anyone tell me how GPS works on the LX?

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Any recommendations for using a Citizen PN50 printer with a 200LX?
  - Serial to parallel converter (make/model recommendations)
  - Infrared port to parallel converter (make/model recommendations)

Thanks.

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Greg,
  Thanks for a great program.

William E. Blankenship

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 20:11:12 -0500
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<<<<Can someone who knows about this printer tell us a little about
it please?
I see it is a 40-column thermal, but can it be used to print 80 cols
in
some sort of compressed mode? How useful is it to a 200LX user? How
big
is it? Any URL with a photo (none on the HP site)?>>>>

I have this printer with my HP48GX.  I don't have the manual with me
but I think it's a 26 column printer, not 40 column.  That's in text
mode.  In graphics mode you can print whatever you like but I'm sure
80 column wouldn't be readable.  I think even 40 columns would be
small.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 18:17:32 -0700
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At 01:48 PM 5/16/00 -0700, you wrote:
>You might try d:/bin/fdisk100.exe before the format.  That command does the
>lowest level initialization of the disk.

Okay!  Listen to how this went..
First, from the command line I typed FDISK (I knew d:\bin was on the
path).  It returned "not ready reading drive a".  Hmm.  Sitting here
looking at the message you wrote, I decided to put it just like you
wrote it - D:\BIN\FDISK100.EXE and voila! she started talking that
talk..  next, I typed FORMAT A: and got "invalid media drive a:" or
something close to that..  so I went "200" and opened filer and tried
format card and that worked, formatting the card and returning:
84996096 total
84996096 avail
2048 ea alloc unit
41502 alloc units
Next, I went back to to command line and ran CHKDSK A: /F which
returned the above plus the mem return:
651264 total mem
620048 free

Now I can start putting it to good use!  I was a bit worried there for
a while.  Thanks Longden, Scott, and all the rest who've taken the time
to contact me about this (both on/off the list and by phone).  Thank
you very much.

BTW - Scott Moore add one more happy customer to your list!

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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> Here is another link to something which will be released soon in the
> US:
>
> http://www.lgic.co.kr/eng/product/phone/cdma/lgi3000w.html
>
> In Europe the Ericsson R380 will be out this summer. We already have
> the Nokia 9110. I prefer a small phone and then a pda with a keyboard.
> So a pda/phone combo is not the way to go for me.

http://www.ericsson.se/pressroom/photolibrary/r380eurosportdemo.jpg

Nice image... I wish they get rid of the dumb useless thing
they call antenna... :(

More images on www.ericsson.se/pressroom/phli_pcoph.shtml

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On Tue, 16 May 2000 20:11:12 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> I have this printer with my HP48GX.  I don't have the manual with me
> but I think it's a 26 column printer, not 40 column.  That's in text
> mode.  In graphics mode you can print whatever you like but I'm sure
> 80 column wouldn't be readable.  I think even 40 columns would be
> small.

Not sure what good this would do for the hplx, but I might as well ask:
Can the HP48GX print to the 82240B in sideways mode? That
for me would be the most useful addition to Tom Rundel's driver,
in addition to a larger font (larger than the 26 column mode).
It would be neat to be able to print a large banner in sideways
(with large letters).  I know, wishful thinking.

Also, are the graphics printing capabilities of the HP48GX useful
outside of formulas and such?  ASCII line drawing would be interesting
to me (beyond the current borders produced by Tom's driver).

I am just wondering what printing characteristics does the
HP48GX has which can output to the 82240B, other than numbers
and formula charts.

Domingo

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> Thanks! Now I knoe the eTrex is very much cheaper at REI - but they
> seem to require a membership.

I don't think you need to be a member to purchase - you get a dividend
back if you are a member altho, I don't know how they work that on
foreign orders.  I know they have a store in Japan but I'm not sure
about Europe yet.

And that was just a quick look as I am a member and their home store is
in Seattle, where I live.  There may be other shops with even better
prices.

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Ed Keefe wrote:
>The problem is that you'd have to know Japanese to correspond with the
>author. He doesn't respond to English messages. Looks like we'll have to
>resort to a group effort.

I can't find the site where I downloaded it from right now. If you
could let me know the author's name, I can have a message translated
into Japanese by people I know.

thanks,

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 08:36:45 +0200
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On Tue, 16 May 2000, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> >The problem is that you'd have to know Japanese to correspond with the
> >author
>
> i can speak Japanese and write in "romaji" (roman characters replacing kana,
> for which DOS-V is needed)  ...if the author is willing
>
> what is his address?

The about screen of GDBWin contains the address
"fronttom@ro.bekkoame.ne.jp". That's just about the only thing it reveals
(well, that and a NIFTY serve address), though, with the rest being
underscores (on a standard UK/US Windows machine anyway...)


Cheers,

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Hola inigo,

        me imagino que con el programa que te comentaban antes
podras solucionar tu problema. A mi me parecia algo parecido y lo
pude resolver modificando el autoexec.bat, inlcuyendo las
siguientes lineas.

rem instalamos la fuente latina espanola
xine d:\bin\latin.kit c:\hp100lx.kit
keybez sp

Lo que hace es cargar la tabla de codigos 850, compatible con
Windows para que pueda leer y escribir caracteres latinos.
Espero que esto funciona.

Un saludo,

Frank !

ÝEnglish¨

        In order to solve your problem, you can try adding these lines in
your autoexec.bat file

rem install the spanish latin font
xine d:\bin\latin.kit c:\hp100lx.kit
keybez sp

        So, the code pages table 850 (Windows compatible) will install
in your palmtop. I hope that can solve your problem.



> Hello, I have a European/spanish 200 lx. When I write something in spanish
> with MEMO and then transfer it to my Laptop all the spanish caracters are
> substituted by strange symbols. Therefore, I cannot get  typical Spanish
> caracters like q (n with a line on top) or spanish accents over the letters.
> Does somebody know how can I solve this problem? I use Windows and Word
> 2000.are there any spanish members in this list?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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>>Did anyone see the lik on D&A page regarding SETI?

will their program run on a palmtop?

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Not a ham myself, but interested in going to the show for the first
time.  Anybody know about the availability of HPLX gear or prosumer-level
Audio/Video production equipment?  Thanks.

Scott Dunaway
SDunaway@ford.com
Carleton, Michigan

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On Wed, 17 May 2000 09:33:22 -0400, Scott Dunaway <sdunaway@FORD.COM> wrote:

> Not a ham myself, but interested in going to the show for the first
> time.  Anybody know about the availability of HPLX gear or prosumer-level
> Audio/Video production equipment?  Thanks.

You'll find a lot of computers and related items, probebly nothing for the
LX except the BayPac modem (http://www.tigertronics.com/sheriff.htm) and
lots of electronic test equipment and some A/V stuff.

73 de Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 08:10:04 -0700
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Thanks William,

It does help a lot, I'm begining to get a feel for how this works.  Is there an
advantage, other than saving $$'s on a higher end GPS,  to using the LX200 for GPS
rather than just purchasing a GPS unit?  Thanks  -Carla-

WEB wrote:

> Carla,
>  I use my older 200LX 4mb unit with a Delorme Tripmate and LXGPS. LXGPS you can get
> from the Super Site. The Tripmate didn't cost that much. As I remember I paid
> $100.00 for it. This GPS doesn't have its own display but links to the 200LX
> through the serial port.
>  For maps I use either Street Atlas USA or scan my own topographic maps. The maps
> must be converted to black and white format before use. The must also be
> calibrated. Calibration is an easy process once you get the hang of it. I usually
> edit some reference points corresponding to know longitude and latitude. The
> document for LXGPS will give more details on this. I use it in the field to
> reaquire contact points with certain geologic features I am studying. I would
> suggest if you use the 200LX in the field, you purchase a divers clear back or make
> one of your own. A good quality freezer back, zip locked, is what I'm using right
> now. These don't cost as much and protect it just as well. I also have a dessicator
> pouch on the underside of the 200LX in the bag because I live in such a humid
> climate. I have never had any problems using these devices in this way. Care should
> be taken to have on hand a really water tight bag in case one gets caught in a
> heavy rain. This is where the divers back comes in really handy.
>
> Hope this helps,
> William E. Blankenship
>
> Carla Ruigh wrote:
>
> > Hi again,
> >
> > In browsing on the SUPER site, I noticed several files w/GPS programs.  Can
> > anyone tell me how GPS works on the LX?
>
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From: <ddvteach@juno.com>


> On Tue, 16 May 2000 20:11:12 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> > I have this printer with my HP48GX.  I don't have the manual
with me
> > but I think it's a 26 column printer, not 40 column.  That's in
text
> > mode.  In graphics mode you can print whatever you like but I'm
sure
> > 80 column wouldn't be readable.  I think even 40 columns would
be
> > small.
>
> Not sure what good this would do for the hplx, but I might as well
ask:
> Can the HP48GX print to the 82240B in sideways mode? That
> for me would be the most useful addition to Tom Rundel's driver,
> in addition to a larger font (larger than the 26 column mode).
> It would be neat to be able to print a large banner in sideways
> (with large letters).  I know, wishful thinking.
>
> Also, are the graphics printing capabilities of the HP48GX useful
> outside of formulas and such?  ASCII line drawing would be
interesting
> to me (beyond the current borders produced by Tom's driver).
>
> I am just wondering what printing characteristics does the
> HP48GX has which can output to the 82240B, other than numbers
> and formula charts.

I just looked for my printer manual so I could give some serious
information but I don't know where it is.  I don't think I've seen
it since I moved a couple of years ago.  It's probably buried under
something somewhere.

I've only used the printer for printing source code but I did read
the manual and play with it a little when I first got it.  But
that's a long time ago.

It doesn't do anything like print graphs given the equation.  The
48gx does that and the printer prints the pixels.

When printing from a normal stack display it's sent ascii code and
prints 26 columns wide, as I remember it.  If you use a ufl font or
some such, it gets a bitmap representation of the screen to print.

I'm not sure how much of this I remember right.  I don't use it a
lot and when I do it's usually just to print source code from Jazz.

I wish I had more information.  I'll keep looking for the manual.
I'm pretty sure it's here somewhere.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 11:31:10 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I have the 85M Sandisk and it works fine. Try the fdisk100 program and then
format. I assume that the card has no DOS file system on it. It's not enough
to format it. you have to create the partition with fdisk first

>-----Original Message-----
>From: T. McCoy Ýmailto:freeway@UIA.NET¨
>Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 4:07 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ 85m SanDisk
>
>
>I just got an 85meg SanDisk and can't get it to work in my
>machine.  I have no documentation for it.  I have a 6meg card
>which works fine..
>I inserted the card (power off), turned it on and loaded filer,
>which didn't recognize it.  I went from there to dos, loaded xtree,
>attempted to change from C to A and got "device not ready,
>cancel or retry".  Tried retry several times to no avail.  Went to
>dos, tried to go to A, got "not ready reading drive a, abort, retry,
>or fail" and all 3 functions kept repeating until I powered off and
>retried with the 6meg card.  Tried format (from filer and from
>the command
>line) with the same results.
>Do I need a special driver for this card?  The card is labeled:
>85mb flashdisk pcmcia pc card ata
>It doesn't say anything about type I or type II anywhere..
>It appears to be in new condition, and I bought it from a highly
>recommended source, so my first instinct tells me it's good.
>Please help!
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 11:51:14 -0400
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              dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
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Interesting.  How does it affect printing and other
operations from the palmtop (my sugestion is not supported
by all programs, Vertical Reader being one of them)  I see
keybez takes 18k of memory, and the additional files on C:
take about 16k of space on my 2meg palmtop.  What other
advantages are provided for losing that much memory and
swapping space?  I have misplaced my manual.  What do the
programs do?

TIA

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: "Francisco I. Campoy" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 17, 2000 9:29:04 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Problems with Spanish caracters


In order to solve your problem, you can try adding these
lines in
your autoexec.bat file

rem install the spanish latin font
xine d:\bin\latin.kit c:\hp100lx.kit
keybez sp

So, the code pages table 850 (Windows compatible) will
install in your palmtop. I hope that can solve your problem.

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 11:27:27 -0500
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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From:         Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GPS for Daniel
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I was trying to be good and reply off list.....
   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mx02.gmx.net.:
>>> MAIL From:<king@icarus.csrri.iit.edu>
<<< 550 Cannot resolve your domain - ungueltiger Domain-Name in Adresse
554 <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>... Service unavailable

   ----- Original message follows -----

From: Andrew King <king@icarus.csrri.iit.edu>
To: d.hertrich@GMX.DE
Subject: GPS once more (REI membership)

Daniel
REI does not require a membership to buy things.
If you have a membership you get a percentage of your purchases back.
I actually have an REI membership, I could see if I could buy it on credit
card and have them ship it over to you.
Let me know which unit you want and we'll figure it out from there

Andrew King
IIT Physics
Chicago 312-567-3021
technology is the answer, what was the question?

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 12:45:36 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Anyone interested? Make me an offer. It's bran new and is a no-name brand.

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Tue, 16 May 2000 20:53:59 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
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From:         Laurence Harvey <lharvey@CALLNETUK.COM>
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>I have an update to ccclxpop and FFDB that I would like to
>post, but have no
>personal web page. Would anyone be willing to host these
>files so I could get
>them out to the HPLX community?
>
>Brian

This request poses the question "what has happened to the SUPER site
updates"?

Is SUPER no longer supported?

I remember some time ago that administration was being taken on by Jeff
Johns and an able assistant (Quinton?). After that there were a couple of
updates and then nothing.

Jeff, can you enlighten us?

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 07:16:34 +0900
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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From:         Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff:Samsung Linux Pda
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>
> http://www.lgic.co.kr/eng/product/phone/cdma/lgi3000w.html
>
> In Europe the Ericsson R380 will be out this summer. We already have
> the Nokia 9110. I prefer a small phone and then a pda with a keyboard.
> So a pda/phone combo is not the way to go for me.
>
> This means that I will stay with my Hplx and maybe buy a second phone
> which is smaller since my 7110 is a bit bulky. A Nokia 8210 and Rex3
> card when I want to travel "light" :-)
>

Simple email terminals designed to be used with cell phones are popular in
Japan, especially with young women. In the past it was geeky types me only
with Zaurus's or 200lxs on commuting trains, now young women are to be seen
reading their email on the trains as well with terminals or their cell
phones.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 00:26:15 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: GPS once more (2)
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Hi Fred,

On Wed, 17 May 2000 03:26:04 +0000, <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> I don't think you need to be a member to purchase - you get a dividend
> back if you are a member altho, I don't know how they work that on
> foreign orders.  I know they have a store in Japan but I'm not sure
> about Europe yet.
>
> And that was just a quick look as I am a member and their home store is
> in Seattle, where I live.  There may be other shops with even better
> prices.

Oh, you live in Seattle? I'll travel to Vancouver in August together
with my girlfriend, and that's not far from Seattle, right? In the case
REI doesn't ship to Europe, or it would cost much more for shipping and
customs, would you be so kind to buy an eTrex for me and maybe we could
meet in August and exchange device and money (and have a cup of tea
somewhere)? 8-)

Of course, I'm still trying to get a GPS receiver 2nd hand here in
Berlin, but this is not that easy and maybe it'll finally not be
possible.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 00:26:18 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Ericcson SH888 & LX
Comments: To: Fischer Gyorgy <skiboy@ELENDER.HU>
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Hi Gyorgy, Ebbe and others,

On Thu, 4 May 2000 12:38:42 +0200, Fischer Gyorgy <skiboy@ELENDER.HU> wrote:

> I recently got this phone (SH888) relatively cheap and used, in the hope
> that I can use it with my HP200LX.

Any experiences and comments on this topic (connecting SH888 and 300LX)
would be greatly appreciated by me for my mobile <--> HPLX web page
(http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx).

Thanks!

daniel

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 00:26:29 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: GPS for Daniel
Comments: To: Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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Hi Andrew,

On Wed, 17 May 2000 11:27:27 -0500, Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU> wrote:

> I was trying to be good and reply off list.....
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>

Yes, my email provider (GMX) seems to have some problems at the moment.
I also cannot send emails at the moment. I have to use the SMTP server
of my university.

> REI does not require a membership to buy things.
> If you have a membership you get a percentage of your purchases back.
> I actually have an REI membership, I could see if I could buy it on credit
> card and have them ship it over to you.
> Let me know which unit you want and we'll figure it out from there

Thanks for that offer! I just sent an email to REI asking if they ship
to Germany and how much it costs. Maybe I'll come back to your offer if
nothing else is aacceptable for me.

Thanks again

daniel

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 19:45:11 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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From:         "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
Subject:      Re: HAMVENTION
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I have been going to Dayton for 5 years now. The only HPLX gear I have seen
was a HP100LX about 2 years ago.

Rodger

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From: "Scott Dunaway" <sdunaway@FORD.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:33 AM
Subject: HAMVENTION


> Not a ham myself, but interested in going to the show for the first
> time.  Anybody know about the availability of HPLX gear or prosumer-level
> Audio/Video production equipment?  Thanks.
>
> Scott Dunaway
> SDunaway@ford.com
> Carleton, Michigan
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 21:27:36 -0600
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              "Lalit K. Bassi" <peak-performance@HOME.COM>
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Hi,

When I try running MEMO from system manager I get a "Divide overflow"
message and then I am at the C: prompt.  There is no way to get back into
system manager beside ctrl alt del.

I looked in my trusty "DOS for Dummies" manual and it described the error as
"the program tried to divide by zero", but did not offer any solutions.

Any suggestions on how to get MEMO up and running again?  I have a 2MB
200LX.

Thanks for your help.

Lalit
Calgary, Canada

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 20:57:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Troy@Goddard.net
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From:         Troy Goddard <Troy@GODDARD.NET>
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Looking for two files.  "ms-flash.sys" and "memcard.exe" to format
Newton flash cards. Would anyone have any information on these two files?

Thank you in advance.

Troy Goddard
Troy@Goddard.net

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 01:01:25 -0500
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              kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM
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From:         Kim Brostad <kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM>
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I will be out of the office from 05/17/2000 until 05/24/2000.

I will respond to your message if I return.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 02:18:40 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Newton Cards
Comments: To: Troy@Goddard.net

   >Looking for two files.  "ms-flash.sys" and "memcard.exe" to format
   >Newton flash cards. Would anyone have any information on these two
   >files?
Message-Id: <20000518061837.FEOK1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.131¨>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:42 +0000

They're parts of the Flash File System (FFS), an alternative standard to
the ATA type we use on the 200LX.

I have those files ay my office in my Omnibook 430.  Send me an email
tomorrow if you hadn't gotten copies by then.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 02:18:55 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Divide overflow error
Comments: cc: peak-performance@HOME.COM

   >When I try running MEMO from system manager I get a "Divide
   >overflow" message and then I am at the C: prompt.  There is no way
   >to get back into system manager beside ctrl alt del.
   >I looked in my trusty "DOS for Dummies" manual and it described the
   >error as "the program tried to divide by zero", but did not offer
   >any solutions.
   >Any suggestions on how to get MEMO up and running again?  I have a
   >2MB 200LX.
Message-Id: <20000518061853.FEPF1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.131¨>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:58 +0000

If this is happening consistently despite the reboots, then my guess would
be that the configuration file for the Memo app is corrupted.

Look for file c:\_dat\memoed.env and delete it.  You'll lose any previous
settings you had in Memo, but you should be able to run again.

As a precaution, you may want to copy that file before deleting it.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 10:20:32 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Homepage temporarily not available
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Hello,

this message goes to the HPLX mailing list, to all abi97-"members" and
to all registered "Basalratenverwaltung" users.

My homepage is temporarily not available because of some troubles at
my ISP (my university). I don't know when the defective thing (whatever
causes the problem) will be repaired.
I hope that it won't take more time than 1 week.

I apologize for any inconvenience.

daniel

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 10:47:41 +0200
Reply-To:     fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
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From:         "Francisco I. Campoy" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
Subject:      Re: Problems with Spanish caracters
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> Interesting.  How does it affect printing and other
> operations from the palmtop (my sugestion is not supported
> by all programs, Vertical Reader being one of them)

If you use the 'keybez' command and you want to print a document
you must choose a printer compatible with the characters included
in the code pages of the keybez command.

> I see keybez takes 18k of memory, and the additional files on C:
> take about 16k of space on my 2meg palmtop.  What other
> advantages are provided for losing that much memory and
> swapping space?  I have misplaced my manual.  What do the
> programs do?
>

That command supports all characters of many countries and date,
time and coin values. It loads the specific codes table and allows
that other applications can use them. (In Lotus 1-2-3 appears some
problems with some languages)

Best Regards


> TIA
>
> Domingo
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Francisco I. Campoy" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Sent: May 17, 2000 9:29:04 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: Problems with Spanish caracters
>
>
> In order to solve your problem, you can try adding these
> lines in
> your autoexec.bat file
>
> rem install the spanish latin font
> xine d:\bin\latin.kit c:\hp100lx.kit
> keybez sp
>
> So, the code pages table 850 (Windows compatible) will
> install in your palmtop. I hope that can solve your problem.
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 07:06:13 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Did you see this on D&A Webpage?
Comments: To: Larry Tachna <ltachna@royalzenith.com>
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Larry Tachna wrote:
> >>Did anyone see the lik on D&A page regarding SETI?
>
> will their program run on a palmtop?

ROFL... It crunches a lot of numbers in one work unit. Gary
S estimated that if they had a program for the palmtop it
would take several month to process a unit. :-)

Perhaps we could connect all the 4000 machines Hal is
getting into one "brain and process one unit in 15 minutes
<G>...

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 04:14:26 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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None of the art or craft stores in the Las Vegas area seem to know what a
"J roller" is.  I looked at the one Ed Padin mentioned at
http://store.yahoo.com/toolsplus/virjr-3.html, but it looks like that
one is three inches wide, which is about twice as wide as it can be to fit
where I need it.  Can anybody point me to a smaller version of this
somewhere on the Internet that I can order and get shipped here (Las
Vegas, Nevada) really quickly?  Or, worst case, can the roller portion of
the one seen at the above URL be cut in half or something, to make it
fit?

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 13:49:47 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      FLUFF:  was Did you see this on D&A Webpage?

> > >>Did anyone see the lik on D&A page regarding SETI?
> > will their program run on a palmtop?

A better proposition would be a RC5-cracker. This would be slow, but still.
An Amiga at ~7 MHz churns out about 5 kkeys/sec. Half it for a 16 bit cpu
and we should get about 2.5 kkeys a sec. :-)

> Perhaps we could connect all the 4000 machines Hal is
> getting into one "brain and process one unit in 15 minutes

Double speed would get it down to 7 minutes. I checked the maths... :-)

br

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 13:58:17 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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I've got an HP Pamphlet with tech details on it and a small photo.

It's a 24 char's per line printer using Roman 8 font - and they say it does
graphics.

I don't know what the resolution is - but I suppose if you want to get 80
chars in graphics mode into 24 chars, it's 3 1/3 times compression.

I can only imagine what you will find it exceedingly difficult to get to
grips with the escape sequences (if that is used for this printer) to set it
into graphics mode.

It looks like a small calculator printer (which it is of course), which
tapers from a rounded form (where the paper roll fits) down to the front end
which is much flatter. It actually looks like a referee's whistle (best way
I can describe it)

I have a laser - HP 5P with infrared. OK it's not very portable (unless you
have a long power lead and a willing helper to carry). It prints nicely from
the 700LX IR port (which is the same as the 200LX of course).

But I'm sure you want portability. So get a sub-notebook (Toshiba) and a
small battery operated ink-jet (Canon etc) and a nice leather carry - case
and you're all set!!

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry ÝSMTP:barry@FBTC.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 3:11 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP 82240B printer and the HP200LX
>
> <<<<Can someone who knows about this printer tell us a little about
> it please?
> I see it is a 40-column thermal, but can it be used to print 80 cols
> in
> some sort of compressed mode? How useful is it to a 200LX user? How
> big
> is it? Any URL with a photo (none on the HP site)?>>>>
>
> I have this printer with my HP48GX.  I don't have the manual with me
> but I think it's a 26 column printer, not 40 column.  That's in text
> mode.  In graphics mode you can print whatever you like but I'm sure
> 80 column wouldn't be readable.  I think even 40 columns would be
> small.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 08:17:18 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of the
              office.
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"If", gee, where are you going?

Kim Brostad wrote:
>
> I will be out of the office from 05/17/2000 until 05/24/2000.
>
> I will respond to your message if I return.
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 15:46:05 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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On Thu, 18 May 2000 00:26:18 +0200, I wrote:

> Hi Gyorgy, Ebbe and others,
> Any experiences and comments on this topic (connecting SH888 and 300LX)
> would be greatly appreciated by me for my mobile <--> HPLX web page
> (http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx).

Sorry, of course I meant the 200LX, not the 300LX!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 08:54:27 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Subject:      Return of the IMSAI (way off topic)
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I don't know if any of you will find this interesting, but since
we're using a computer the world sees as totally out-of-date, I
thought maybe some people on this list are interested in out-of-date
computers generally.  If so, there's just been a major event it
out-of-date computer.  Maybe the majorist event of all.

Fischer-Freitas Company, the owner of what used to be the IMSAI
Computer Company, have just released the IMSAI series II, which is
basically an IMSAI with a lot of modern technology added (VGA, SCSI,
1 meg ram, 20MHz Z180, etc) but full compatibility retained, or so
they say.

For those who are interested, there is full information at
www.imsai.net.

I've never even seen an IMSAI.  I was in mainframes and then TRS-80
back then.  But I've read a lot about them in history books and
articles.

For those who may not know, the IMSAI was the second personal
computer, following the Altair, but was supposed to be a much better
design.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 07:34:41 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> > > Do you have a wattcp.cfg file? If you have an older version of NTIME, I
> > > believe it requires the use of a wattcp.cfg file rather than tcp.cfg.
> >
> > That's correct, but I get the same error even after copying tcp.cfg
> > to wattcp.cfg.  The only relevant line in that config file seems to
> > be "my_ip=bootp" anyway.
>
> I'll try NTIME later today, and see if it works for me.

I had a chance to compile and run NTIME now, and it worked fine using
either "wattcp.cfg" or "tcp.cfg" with an Accton card. I don't use BOOTP
though, so can't say if it works with that.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 10:49:35 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Organization: Mind/Matter
Subject:      Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of
              theoffice.
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Perhaps he/she is contemplating the possibility of being hit by an
unenclosed array of something...

Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> "If", gee, where are you going?
>
> Kim Brostad wrote:
> >
> > I will be out of the office from 05/17/2000 until 05/24/2000.
> >
> > I will respond to your message if I return.
> >
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 10:53:39 -0700
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From:         "BOYD S. MINER" <k4kep@BACKROADS.NET>
Organization: LAURENS COUNTY (SC) SKYWARN COORDINATOR
Subject:      Re: Return of the IMSAI (way off topic) (AND ITS PREDISESOR MITS
              ALTAIR)
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I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN EDIT AND READ ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER.

I'M GLAD I KEPT MY OLD M.I.T.S. ALTAIR 8800 THE PREDESESOR OF IMSAI. AND
IT STILL WORKS AS WELL AS IT DID WHEN NEW, EVEN IF MY HP200 HAS TO GO
BACK TO THE SHOP.

Barry wrote:
>
> I don't know if any of you will find this interesting, but since
> we're using a computer the world sees as totally out-of-date, I
> thought maybe some people on this list are interested in out-of-date
> computers generally.  If so, there's just been a major event it
> out-of-date computer.  Maybe the majorist event of all.
>
> Fischer-Freitas Company, the owner of what used to be the IMSAI
> Computer Company, have just released the IMSAI series II, which is
> basically an IMSAI with a lot of modern technology added (VGA, SCSI,
> 1 meg ram, 20MHz Z180, etc) but full compatibility retained, or so
> they say.
>
> For those who are interested, there is full information at
> www.imsai.net.
>
> I've never even seen an IMSAI.  I was in mainframes and then TRS-80
> back then.  But I've read a lot about them in history books and
> articles.
>
> For those who may not know, the IMSAI was the second personal
> computer, following the Altair, but was supposed to be a much better
> design.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 08:56:13 -0600
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              "Lalit K. Bassi" <bassil@HOME.COM>
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From:         "Lalit K. Bassi" <bassil@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Divide overflow error
Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Longden,

I was hoping that the solution would be that simple.  Thanks to you I am up
and running again <G>.

Appreciate it.

Lalit



   >When I try running MEMO from system manager I get a "Divide
   >overflow" message and then I am at the C: prompt.  There is no way
   >to get back into system manager beside ctrl alt del.
   >I looked in my trusty "DOS for Dummies" manual and it described the
   >error as "the program tried to divide by zero", but did not offer
   >any solutions.
   >Any suggestions on how to get MEMO up and running again?  I have a
   >2MB 200LX.
Message-Id:
<20000518061853.FEPF1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.131¨>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:58 +0000

If this is happening consistently despite the reboots, then my guess would
be that the configuration file for the Memo app is corrupted.

Look for file c:\_dat\memoed.env and delete it.  You'll lose any previous
settings you had in Memo, but you should be able to run again.

As a precaution, you may want to copy that file before deleting it.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 23:44:01 +0200
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From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
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Neale Partinton wrote:
>> Hi, just came across this list name in a web search and a resulting
message from
>> 1998.  Is the list still alive?  I'm still wishing I had synchro between
my
>> 200lx and Lotus Notes, especially the calendar, and wonder if this is
the place
>> to find the answers?  If so, could I please be subscribed?

I wrote a LotusScript program to synchronize the HP 200 LX Appointment Book
with the Lotus Notes Calendar. The synchronization is one-way (the HP is
the master, the Notes Calendar the slave). You need to have the HP
Connectivity Pack to convert the appt.adb file to a comma-delimited file.
Also, the program runs as an agent on Lotus Notes and you need a full Notes
license (Designer for Domino), not a Lotus Notes Desktop license to be able
to install a LotusScript agent.

If you're interested, I'll send you the code and some documentation.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 12:19:15 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of the
              office.
Comments: To: "kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM" <kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM>
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"if"?  sounds like you have a dangerous profession. let me guess:

Secret Agent
Cuban Refugee
Chinese Human Rights Activist
Hitchhiker
Russian Submariner
International Jewel Thief
New York City Gypsy Cab Driver
Coal Miner/Tunnel Digger/Sandhog
Transdimensional/Temporal Traveler/Warrior





>
>
>I will be out of the office from 05/17/2000 until 05/24/2000.
>
>I will respond to your message if I return.
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 18:22:07 +0200
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <elemai2@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Urgent help- ffree smtp server
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 Our friend Yves Leurquin is in Dubai, and for some reason, he can get his
mail, but cannot send any via the isp he can use.
If anybody knows of an smtp server that would accept messages from a
different ISP, please mail him at
leurquin@BigFoot.com.
Alternatively, mail me and I'll call him


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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 09:51:10 -0700
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From:         Sally Cooper <sally_cooper@HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of th
              e office.
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I think he/she is headed to a hot gambling spot and does not intend to return to
the office unless she/he doesn't win.
Sally

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:19 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of the
> office.
>
>
> "if"?  sounds like you have a dangerous profession. let me guess:
>
> Secret Agent
> Cuban Refugee
> Chinese Human Rights Activist
> Hitchhiker
> Russian Submariner
> International Jewel Thief
> New York City Gypsy Cab Driver
> Coal Miner/Tunnel Digger/Sandhog
> Transdimensional/Temporal Traveler/Warrior
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >I will be out of the office from 05/17/2000 until 05/24/2000.
> >
> >I will respond to your message if I return.
> >
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> >
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 20:12:03 +0200
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              =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?=
              <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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              <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      S35i + post/lx + pdu.com = success
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Hello list,

I bought a Siemens S35i mobile phone two days ago. I successfully tested
the following:

- Sending and receiving SMS via Irda and cable (the cable Daniel Hertrich
  describes on http://daniel.hplx.net). Software: post/lx 2.2f and Stefan
  Peichl's pdu.com, robot/lx from Andreas Garzotto.

- Connections with www/lx via cable (post/lx, hv, telnet)

- The S35 has the same harsh electromagnetic interferences as the S25 had=
,
  so using Irda needs some shielding tricks: I took some aluminium foil i=
n
  which I cutted a whole with 1.5 cm radius. This way I can get and send
  mails via Irda, but the speed is very low. Surfing with HV is possible,
  but there are a lot of "baud rate too high errors".

Thanks again to Stefan Peichl for giving away very useful software for
free, and Andreas Garzotto for extending the www/lx suite with robot/lx!

Bye
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 21:45:12 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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              ignored.
From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: S35i + post/lx + pdu.com = success
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Hi G|nther,

Does the S35i have a stronger IrDA port than the S25? With the S25,
it's only possible to establish an IrDA connection if the two IrDA eyes
are not more than abt. 5..10cm sway from each other. The Nokia devices
allow distances of up to 0.5m or even more, so it's possible to work
around the EMI problem by placing the two devices far away from each
other.

How big can you make the distance between LX and S35 without loosing
the IrDA connection?

GTX
daniel

On Thu, 18 May 2000 20:12:03 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> wrote:

> - The S35 has the same harsh electromagnetic interferences as the S25 had,
>   so using Irda needs some shielding tricks: I took some aluminium foil in
>   which I cutted a whole with 1.5 cm radius. This way I can get and send
>   mails via Irda, but the speed is very low. Surfing with HV is possible,
>   but there are a lot of "baud rate too high errors".

--

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homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 16:12:25 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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>
> Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 08:10:04 -0700
> From:    Carla Ruigh <swngdncr@GARLIC.COM>
> Subject: Re: GPS on 200lx
>
> Thanks William,
>
> It does help a lot, I'm begining to get a feel for how this works.  Is
there an
> advantage, other than saving $$'s on a higher end GPS,  to using the
LX200 for GPS
> rather than just purchasing a GPS unit?  Thanks  -Carla-


Only Mack's note about using the LX as a remote display for the GPS. If
you're planning on operating only from some kind of vehicle that may make
sense. If you also want to have something for hiking, camping, hunting,
etc. which you will be carrying around you run into the cable issue, the
weather risks, the danger of dropping your LX (with cover open!) and
breaking something, . . .  The delta for an advanced GPS is cheaper than
replacement costs for a broken LX (unless you're looking for an excuse to
change platforms ;{)# )

Jon

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 22:49:44 +0200
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Subject:      Re: S35i + post/lx + pdu.com = success
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Hoi,

Thursday, May 18, 2000, 9:45:12 PM, you wrote:

> Does the S35i have a stronger IrDA port than the S25=3F With the S25,
> it's only possible to establish an IrDA connection if the two IrDA eyes
> are not more than abt. 5..10cm sway from each other. The Nokia devices
> allow distances of up to 0.5m or even more, so it's possible to work
> around the EMI problem by placing the two devices far away from each
> other.

> How big can you make the distance between LX and S35 without loosing
> the IrDA connection=3F

the maximum distance between the two eyes is 28 cm. That means, with a
distance of 28 cm I still can send sms. But the optimum rate when
continuously online (like with www/lx) is ~18 cm, because I get more baud
rate erros when placing the phone 20 or more centimeters from the 200lx.

Bye
G=FCnther

PS: We can of course test this the next time we meet.

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 17:28:49 -0500
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Mike Kopplin writes:
>
> I had a chance to compile and run NTIME now, and it worked fine using
> either "wattcp.cfg" or "tcp.cfg" with an Accton card. I don't use BOOTP
> though, so can't say if it works with that.

Would it be possible for you to show me the relevant lines from your
tcp.cfg file?  That might help this thickheaded person figure it out.

Ted

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> > I had a chance to compile and run NTIME now, and it worked fine using
> > either "wattcp.cfg" or "tcp.cfg" with an Accton card. I don't use BOOTP
> > though, so can't say if it works with that.
>
> Would it be possible for you to show me the relevant lines from your
> tcp.cfg file?  That might help this thickheaded person figure it out.

Here's the section from my cfg file when at work.

my_ip=128.196.140.12
netmask=255.255.255.0
gateway=128.196.140.1
nameserver=128.196.140.5
domainslist=arizona.edu
hostname="lx"

Your problem may be that the version of NTIME on Super does NOT work. Al
Kind figured this out. I sent him the version I compiled and he got it
working right away. He said he would forward it on to you. Let me know if
you don't get it, and I can send it offlist.

Mike Kopplin

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Mike Kopplin writes:
>
> Here's the section from my cfg file when at work.
>
> my_ip=128.196.140.12
> netmask=255.255.255.0
> gateway=128.196.140.1
> nameserver=128.196.140.5
> domainslist=arizona.edu
> hostname="lx"

Okay, I think I see my problem.  I can't assign an IP number for dial-
up use since my ISP doesn't use static numbers.  I use bootp, but that
must not work on the LAN at work.  I've tried sticking some of these
parameters into tcp.cfg, but not any of the IP numbers.  That's most
likely been my problem.


> Your problem may be that the version of NTIME on Super does NOT work.

The version I have (I think from Rod Whitby's package) seems to work
fine with a dial-up connection.  Al did send me a copy of the version you
compiled and I'm going to try it when I get back to the office next week.

Thanks very much for the help!

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 07:13:25 +0200
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On Thu, 18 May 2000 20:12:03 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> wrote:

> Thanks again to Stefan Peichl for giving away very useful software for
> free, and Andreas Garzotto for extending the www/lx suite with robot/lx!

... and IrDA capabilities!

GTX
daniel
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Hello,

my homepage (http://daniel.hplx.net) is working again. The problem was
a defective hard disk (that one that holds the /home directory) in my
university.

daniel

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Date:         Thu, 18 May 2000 23:22:57 -0600
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Hey has anyone tried a Nokia GSM 6190 and the DataSuite Cable on a 200LX.
I have seen the posts on the 7110, just wondering about this thing.  I also
have an Ericcson CF888 with all it's accompanying software and cable.

Thanks,

MH
Remember With VoiceStream you Get More.

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Hello  I Just found this list so I hope this has not been asked too
many times before ( looked at a couple of the archives but found
nothing ...)

My 200lx seems to have a data file size limit of 64Kb for the
appointment boot I have run garlic several times but after adding
new entries i start to get corrupt data in the appointment field and
when i try to delete it i get missing record...
AAAAAAAAAARRRGH  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought these problems were fixed  I used to have a HP95 Lx
( well I wore out 4 of them ...(:-))  )
can anybody confirm this limit and is there any way around it ...
do the newer 200lxs have a different rom in them Its a 2 meg
hp200lx with double speed fitted ser no SG44

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 20:17:28 +0800
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I can only say that I've tried with X-Finder R.11B9 + Win95(MS-DOS Prompt)
in Japanese mode but have not succeeded.The XFS is the new one attached with
R.11Beta9. ÝThe new version includes the adjustment feature for the server's
'wait' parameter¨

According to the author, he'd tried on LX (double speed & 2.27X spped)
and on Fujitsu Biblo/NC, both equipped with internal IR port.

I have been checking the FHPPC on Nifty-Serve, where the author uploads his
latest version. But I couldn't see any report on the usage of Aegis. I've
posted a query my self and the reply was that the X-Filer is still not so
stable in the infra-red connection and wouldn't be surprised if it didn't
work. His additional comment was that even if it is connected, the speed
would be much slower than with cable.



At 14:28 2000/05/10 -0400, you wrote:
> Can anybody confirm/deny that the new X-Finder Server (XFS) 11 Beta works with
> Thaddeus' Aegis IR-HP5 serial-to-infrared adapter?


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M.M.

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 08:32:57 -0400
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My APPT.ADB is about 300K at the moment so (if this is what you are
talking about) I doubt if it is a `data file size limit of 64kb' that
you are running into.

Alban Pearce wrote:
>
> My 200lx seems to have a data file size limit of 64Kb for the
> appointment boot
...

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 08:48:18 -0400
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My file sizes are:

appt.adb    162,138
apptbk.env      170
appts.ini     9,048

My s/n G44... double speed 32mb


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
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My APPT.ADB is about 300K at the moment so (if this is what you are
talking about) I doubt if it is a `data file size limit of 64kb' that
you are running into.

Alban Pearce wrote:
>
> My 200lx seems to have a data file size limit of 64Kb for the
> appointment boot
...

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Wow.....this guy's values his HP200 8-)

regards......Liam

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Subject: HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,


> HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,
>  + 2 power supply ,
>  + 2 PC link cable + software ,
>  + 1 leather pouch with belt clip ,
>  + 14.4 pcmcia Fax/modem with xjack (no need for dongle) ,
>  + software (multilanguage  dictionary, english dictionary,
> infoselect, email)
>  +doc, and divers
>  asking $950 for the lot ,
>
>  + option pcmcia network card (combo): $120
>  (this card is compatible with the 200LX)
>  + option 64Mg compact flash card (with pcmcia adaptor): $350
>
>  or $1350 for all of them.
>  Al: 0411 020 065 in Sydney

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 09:29:58 -0700
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Alban Pearce wrote:
>My 200lx seems to have a data file size limit of 64Kb for the
>appointment boot I have run garlic several times but after adding
>new entries i start to get corrupt data in the appointment field and
>when i try to delete it i get missing record...

As the others said, the files on the LX can be very large. I believe
that there's a limit of about 5000 "records", where each appointment
or todo item is a record, and each note is a record. There are some
pre-defined ones in there, but the number is small compared to 5000.
And a note can be up to 32K, so the file size in theory could get
extremely large.

I have a program called DBCHECK, available at http://cameron.hplx.net
which can detect most file errors, so that you won't back up a
corrupted file. However, once it gets corrupted, your choices are more
limited.

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Here's another link ->
http://www.printmaking-materials.com/newrollers.html#anchor51555

They have a 1-1/2" soft rubber brayer (2573 Speedball #70 - 11/2" $7.15 ) ...
trouble is, I don't know how "soft" compares to their "hard" versions... it may
be too soft, and Speedball doesn't seem to make a hard rubber brayer under 4"
wide (and hard rubber sounds more like what you're after).

The "J roller" term may be unique to industrial or archictectural laminating
applications.  Art, craft or photography stores may just call it a rubber roller
or a brayer.

The hunt goes on ...

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 05/18/2000 04:14:26 AM

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Subject:  J roller for backlight project




None of the art or craft stores in the Las Vegas area seem to know what a
"J roller" is.  I looked at the one Ed Padin mentioned at
http://store.yahoo.com/toolsplus/virjr-3.html, but it looks like that
one is three inches wide, which is about twice as wide as it can be to fit
where I need it.  Can anybody point me to a smaller version of this
somewhere on the Internet that I can order and get shipped here (Las
Vegas, Nevada) really quickly?  Or, worst case, can the roller portion of
the one seen at the above URL be cut in half or something, to make it
fit?

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Longden,

Soft is not that soft.  Hard is very hard.  I found a 2" #71 (soft) yesterday and
had it Fedex to to David Sargeant .  He should be able to cut each end slightly if
needed with a pen knife to get the 1.75 inch width he needs.  If that works I have
access to more.       =Bob=

Longden Loo wrote:

> Here's another link ->
> http://www.printmaking-materials.com/newrollers.html#anchor51555
>
> They have a 1-1/2" soft rubber brayer (2573 Speedball #70 - 11/2" $7.15 ) ...
> trouble is, I don't know how "soft" compares to their "hard" versions... it may
> be too soft, and Speedball doesn't seem to make a hard rubber brayer under 4"
> wide (and hard rubber sounds more like what you're after).
>
> The "J roller" term may be unique to industrial or archictectural laminating
> applications.  Art, craft or photography stores may just call it a rubber roller
> or a brayer.
>
> The hunt goes on ...
>
> - Longden
>
> David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 05/18/2000 04:14:26 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  J roller for backlight project
>
> None of the art or craft stores in the Las Vegas area seem to know what a
> "J roller" is.  I looked at the one Ed Padin mentioned at
> http://store.yahoo.com/toolsplus/virjr-3.html, but it looks like that
> one is three inches wide, which is about twice as wide as it can be to fit
> where I need it.  Can anybody point me to a smaller version of this
> somewhere on the Internet that I can order and get shipped here (Las
> Vegas, Nevada) really quickly?  Or, worst case, can the roller portion of
> the one seen at the above URL be cut in half or something, to make it
> fit?
>
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    I have been trying to get my Ace Double card to work with the 200LX.  I
initially had it in the 95LX.  I have searched the palmtop paper and other
sites and have failed to find the necessary information.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Fri, 19 May 2000 13:30:56 -0400 (EDT)

24m08s ago ...
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Jay D. Bachmayer wrote:

>     I have been trying to get my Ace Double card to work with the =
200LX.  I
> initially had it in the 95LX.  I have searched the palmtop paper and =
other
> sites and have failed to find the necessary information.

Do you at least see the uncompressed part of the card in Filer as drive
A: ?   If that's OK, then try rebooting (ctrl-alt-del).  This should
load the necessary drivers to used the compressed part.  I have a
DoubleFlash + card, so yours should be similar.


HTH

Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 15:57:37 -0400
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Hi folks,

Does anyone have any experience using the Pretec
CompactModem (follow the links from http://www.pretec.com)
in an LX? The specs say that it supports DOS and operates at
3.3V, but also mentions a minimum requirement of a 386 w/4MB
RAM. Anyone know just how necessary that last requirement
is?

Failing that, can anyone recommend any other CF Type I modems
that will work in a 200LX (using a PC-Card adaptor, of
course)?

Thanks,

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 16:16:11 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Freewwweb & WWW/LX
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Fri, 19 May 2000 16:13:29 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   Is anyone using www/lx with a freewwweb account?


   Cheers...AJKind



*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 16:46:38 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Yes, but remember A$ are less than US$0.60, so it strikes me merely as
`high'...

"Eng. & Industrial Projects" wrote:
>
> Wow.....this guy's values his HP200 8-)
>
> regards......Liam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "the Email is in the messsage" <nettoyage@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: aus.ads.forsale.computers.used
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2000 08:00
> Subject: HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,
>
> > HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,
> >  + 2 power supply ,
> >  + 2 PC link cable + software ,
> >  + 1 leather pouch with belt clip ,
> >  + 14.4 pcmcia Fax/modem with xjack (no need for dongle) ,
> >  + software (multilanguage  dictionary, english dictionary,
> > infoselect, email)
> >  +doc, and divers
> >  asking $950 for the lot ,

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 16:56:21 -0400
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I can tell you that I had a bad experience with a Pretec flash card. The
damned thing always worked really slow and one day it finally quit on me. I
called pretec numerous times and they were worthless. I would never use any
of their products. I think that Dave Seargant also had a similar card with a
similar experince.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Wagstaff Ýmailto:aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM¨
>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:58 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Pretec CompactModem
>
>
>Hi folks,
>
>Does anyone have any experience using the Pretec
>CompactModem (follow the links from http://www.pretec.com)
>in an LX? The specs say that it supports DOS and operates at
>3.3V, but also mentions a minimum requirement of a 386 w/4MB
>RAM. Anyone know just how necessary that last requirement
>is?
>
>Failing that, can anyone recommend any other CF Type I modems
>that will work in a 200LX (using a PC-Card adaptor, of
>course)?
>
>Thanks,
>
> -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨
>
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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 17:25:12 -0400
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              Cavalier Leonard W CRBE <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
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I have an HP 82240A printer, which is very similar to the "B" version.  In fact, I am not sure what differences there are, if any.  They both look and act the same.

Anyway, I used to use a little TSR program downloaded from an earlier incarnation of the S.U.P.E.R. site, that worked with the PrtScr (Print Screen) key to print a pixel-by-pixel screen dump, rotated and nearly the actual size of the screen.  All this was with my 95LX.  I don't think I ever bothered to check the availability of the same for the 100/200LX.  This capability certainly was impressive and entertaining, but I never had any practical use for this myself.

I like this printer a lot, and it seems the ideal thing to use with the LX Palmtops, especially to take advantage of the infrared link. I am always trying to find a use for it, but I keep coming up short.  I recently unearthed it to use with myu HP 48SX calculator, hoping to use it as a tape-printing calculator for confirming things like tax return calcs.  But lo-and-behold, the 48 does not have a "trace" mode to send everything entering the display to the printer.  You can only achieve this through programming, and it became more trouble than it was worth.

Oh, well.  The printer stays, as a paperweight I suppose!


        - Leonard W. Cavalier
          cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil


-----Original Message-----
From: Klopper Donald Ýmailto:KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA¨
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: HP 82240B printer and the HP200LX


I've got an HP Pamphlet with tech details on it and a small photo.

It's a 24 char's per line printer using Roman 8 font - and they say it does
graphics.

I don't know what the resolution is - but I suppose if you want to get 80
chars in graphics mode into 24 chars, it's 3 1/3 times compression.

I can only imagine what you will find it exceedingly difficult to get to
grips with the escape sequences (if that is used for this printer) to set it
into graphics mode.

It looks like a small calculator printer (which it is of course), which
tapers from a rounded form (where the paper roll fits) down to the front end
which is much flatter. It actually looks like a referee's whistle (best way
I can describe it)

I have a laser - HP 5P with infrared. OK it's not very portable (unless you
have a long power lead and a willing helper to carry). It prints nicely from
the 700LX IR port (which is the same as the 200LX of course).

But I'm sure you want portability. So get a sub-notebook (Toshiba) and a
small battery operated ink-jet (Canon etc) and a nice leather carry - case
and you're all set!!

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
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.-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry ÝSMTP:barry@FBTC.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 3:11 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP 82240B printer and the HP200LX
>
> <<<<Can someone who knows about this printer tell us a little about
> it please?
> I see it is a 40-column thermal, but can it be used to print 80 cols
> in
> some sort of compressed mode? How useful is it to a 200LX user? How
> big
> is it? Any URL with a photo (none on the HP site)?>>>>
>
> I have this printer with my HP48GX.  I don't have the manual with me
> but I think it's a 26 column printer, not 40 column.  That's in text
> mode.  In graphics mode you can print whatever you like but I'm sure
> 80 column wouldn't be readable.  I think even 40 columns would be
> small.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 23:26:28 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Nokia questions.
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Hi,

On Thu, 18 May 2000 23:22:57 -0600, RMCI <mjhibbs@RMCI.NET> wrote:

> Hey has anyone tried a Nokia GSM 6190 and the DataSuite Cable on a 200LX.
> I have seen the posts on the 7110, just wondering about this thing.  I also
> have an Ericcson CF888 with all it's accompanying software and cable.

No Nokia 61xx phone will work with the HPLX. These phones don't have a
built-in modem. You can only use it with a software modem that runs
only under Windows.
AFAIK, no chance to get it to work with the LX, sorry.

For further information, have a look on my home page. There I described
several phones and their modem capabilities regarding the HPLX.
http://daniel.hplx.net and
http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx

Tomorrow (saturday), I'll add a few things about some phones, including
the Nokia 61xx phones. (Actually, I added these informations already
today,
but the new HTMLs are copied onto the WWW server automatically at
4:00am in every morning.)

GTX
daniel

--

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homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 19:30:55 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
> I have a program called DBCHECK, available at http://cameron.hplx.net
> which can detect most file errors, so that you won't back up a
> corrupted file. However, once it gets corrupted, your choices are more
> limited.

Whether the DB is good or bad I recommend using DBCHECK to dump the
contents to a flat txt file, including notes.  If the DB is so corrupted
you have to start over the data in that txt file will give you a
starting point.

When I backup I use DBCHECK to make sure the db is ok then I backup both
the db AND a flat txt version of the db.

Thanks again Cameron for a VALUABLE tool!

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 17:18:23 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ed Padin wrote:

> I can tell you that I had a bad experience with a Pretec flash card.
> The damned thing always worked really slow and one day it finally quit
> on me. I called Pretec numerous times and they were worthless. I would
> never use any of their products. I think that Dave Sargeant also had a
> similar card with a similar experience.

Yup.  Originally I had a 30MB Pretec card that was just a Sundisk card,
re-labeled, and it was very vast, low power, etc.  Then it broke, and I
sent it to Pretec, and they had switched suppliers or something and their
cards were no longer Sundisk OEM, but some bizarre, and horrible (at least
as far as 200LX users are concerned) manufacturer. They replaced my shiny,
solid-feeling (i.e. heavy) metal-encased 30MB card with a 32MB card that
was much lighter and had a case of black plastic.  This card had the same
bizarre problems as Ed's: writing was nightmarishly slow, on the order of
10-30 times slower than a normal flash card, unless you held a key down as
it was writing, which sped it up quite a bit but still nowhere near as
fast as a Sundisk or other cards of the era.  Of course, all this only
applies to using it in the 200LX -- it must've had some weird conflict
with light sleep mode, or some other 200LX-specific hardware, or maybe
software ... CardBIOS incompatibility perhaps?  Anyway, the card worked
fine in other machines, so I eventually traded it to a friend of mine to
use in an Omnibook 300.  And, as it turns out, it was lucky I did, because
it was one of the few cards we could find that worked in that thing...

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 00:42:56 +0000
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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Wotcha Chaps,

I've finally replaced my five-year-old Nokia 2110 with a 7110,
but haven't yet connected to the internet via the IR modem.
Over the last few months, I've read & saved posts relating to
connecting, and I hadn't anticipated much trouble. However, no
luck.

I've (manually) edited www.cfg to include:

port=3D-1
baud=3D38400 (and 19200)
modem=3D1
ModemInit=3DAT&F (also tried AT+CBST=3D0,0,1)

www/lx reports connecting to the phone at 38400 OK. The phone
dials , but almost immediately returns the UK tone (three
ascending beeps) which signify a dropped line. If I manually
dial the number on the phone first, then try to connect, it
gets as far as waiting for the connect, but never does,
although there are lots of encouraging type sounds being
made.

In my archive of notes, Neil Tungate (also a UK Demon user)
reported the exact same symptoms on an SH888. Any pointers on
where I might be going wrong?

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> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: "Stephen Cross" <SteveCross@bigfoot.com>
> Subject: HP200LX using Desktop PC Modem?
> Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:35:51 +0100
>
> Can I get my HP200LX to directly use my desktops internal modem. Any
> pointers?
>
> Steve Cross
> SteveCross@bigfoot.com

Hi Steve & List,

I've been doing this for about a year, so it can be done. I'll
try my best to cobble some instructions together this weekend.
In a nutshell, you'll need (assuming you're using Windows?)
Dial Up Networking, downloaded from MS or with Win98 and some
proxy server software.

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Date:         Fri, 19 May 2000 17:58:46 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> On 16 May 2000, at 5:05, Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > Date:    Mon, 15 May 2000 00:40:03 -0400
> > From:    Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> > Subject: Fwd: HP200LX using Desktop PC Modem?
> >
> > Hellu..
> >
> > Told this guy to join us. Until he do please Cc: him the reply..
> good Idea.
> >
> > I have never seen his problem before. I have seen a program to use the
> > modem in the Hplx pcmciaslot for the desktop pc. But not an internal
> > modem on a desktop Be used by the Hplx. But some serial trick could be
> > done maybe?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
> >
> > --- begin of forwarded message ---
> > From: "Stephen Cross" <SteveCross@bigfoot.com>
> > Subject: HP200LX using Desktop PC Modem?
> > Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:35:51 +0100
> >
> > Can I get my HP200LX to directly use my desktops internal modem. Any
> > pointers?
> >
> > Steve Cross
> > SteveCross@bigfoot.com
> >
> in this statement I do not see, if you have already tried...
> If you really start, the questions will be more precise.
> e.g. where can I get a cable to connect the modem with the serial port,
> what are the parameters to be set for my special modem...

"Internal Modem" implies an ISA or PCI modem, though - Hard to cable a
serial port to an ISA modem, frankly!  (Well, without getting into
microcontrollers <G>)

What'd be needed is one of the Router packages that works under Dos 5.0
(on the LX) to hook it to that desktop (with a network cable or serial
cable to the desktop?)  Don't know that field well on the LX, know that
Linux on the desktop would let you do that (but not all details), most
other OS's have some software available that will set this up for you
though - The thing to look for is "Router" software for the desktop, and
drivers or some such way to use a "Proxy" modem gateway for the LX, to
do what he wants to do - It'd help if we knew what that was (Access a
BBS?  Send a Fax?  Access the Internet?  Dial the telephone as a speed
dialer?)

Also consider just plain adding another machine to the home LAN as a
Router (www.linuxrouter.org IIRC has a router package - 386sx16 will
handle a 56k modem to the 'Net, so any machine on the home LAN can dial
the Internet up.)  I'm getting to that sometime soon, I hope <G>

> Every modem I tried (in the meantime about 6 or 7 different types)
> worked. Sometimes I needed a special init-string to slow down the modem
> speed to the serials capabiltities.
>
> regards,
> Werner
>
> Thought for the day:
>     Communist (n): one who has given up all hope
>     of becoming a Capitalist.
>
> --
> PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc
> SMS: mailto:+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at
> Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com

  Mark

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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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I could do it, alternately, Daniel.

Suggest putting the GPS unit in a Global Priority Mail large envelope
($9 USD) for shipping, you can fit quite a bit in one of those (A large
shoe horn and some wood blocks to protect the GPS would be a GOOD idea
<G> - or cram the original cardboard box in there, if it'll fit.)

Price is good, it does take about a day longer than International
Express Mail usually (4-5 days from here to Australia - if Customs isn't
slow, there's the rub!), haven't had a shipment get lost yet.

I'd tape the envelope closed though (it'd be BAD to have your GPS tear
the envelope open in transit, fall out, and be lost in the mails.)

  Mark

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Wed, 17 May 2000 11:27:27 -0500, Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU> wrote:
>
> > I was trying to be good and reply off list.....
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
>
> Yes, my email provider (GMX) seems to have some problems at the moment.
> I also cannot send emails at the moment. I have to use the SMTP server
> of my university.
>
> > REI does not require a membership to buy things.
> > If you have a membership you get a percentage of your purchases back.
> > I actually have an REI membership, I could see if I could buy it on credit
> > card and have them ship it over to you.
> > Let me know which unit you want and we'll figure it out from there
>
> Thanks for that offer! I just sent an email to REI asking if they ship
> to Germany and how much it costs. Maybe I'll come back to your offer if
> nothing else is aacceptable for me.
>
> Thanks again
>
> daniel
>
> --
>
> Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de
> homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
> telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49
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(For private individuals at cost; ask.)

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Subject:      Re: Fw: HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,
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Remember, the $AUD is only about $0.57 USD right now - so $950 AUD =
$544.825 USD, not horribly out of line with current eBay pricing, with
all those add-ons...

  Mark

Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:
> Wow.....this guy's values his HP200 8-)
>
> regards......Liam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "the Email is in the messsage" <nettoyage@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: aus.ads.forsale.computers.used
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2000 08:00
> Subject: HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,
>
> > HP200LX with 5Mg internal RAM ,
> >  + 2 power supply ,
> >  + 2 PC link cable + software ,
> >  + 1 leather pouch with belt clip ,
> >  + 14.4 pcmcia Fax/modem with xjack (no need for dongle) ,
> >  + software (multilanguage  dictionary, english dictionary,
> > infoselect, email)
> >  +doc, and divers
> >  asking $950 for the lot ,
> >
> >  + option pcmcia network card (combo): $120
> >  (this card is compatible with the 200LX)
> >  + option 64Mg compact flash card (with pcmcia adaptor): $350
> >
> >  or $1350 for all of them.
> >  Al: 0411 020 065 in Sydney

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Hi Ed,

> I can tell you that I had a bad experience with a Pretec flash card. The
> damned thing always worked really slow and one day it finally quit on me. I
> called pretec numerous times and they were worthless. I would never use any
> of their products. I think that Dave Seargant also had a similar card with a
> similar experince.

Thanks for the info. The annoying thing is that Pretec seem
to be the only company around who offer a CF Type I modem -
if you know of anyone else, please let me know. The other
annoyance is that I currently can't access the HPLX list
(the list.hplx newsgroup appears to be down), which is a
little bit incovenient to say the least!

Regards,

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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And if you plug it into the wall, you might be able to use it on the 200LX also
... says it includes DOS drivers.

Copying this to the HPLX mailing list ... it might be of interest to them also
... a multi-mode external floppy drive that connects via the PCMCIA slot and
reads/writes standard floppies (720K/1.44mb) and also LS-120 (120mb).

Thanks Jim and Jonathan.

- Longden





Jonathan Angel <johnny@angel.org> on 05/19/2000 05:22:25 PM

Please respond to omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org

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Jim et al,

Thanks ... and by digging a little on that site I found this page
(http://www.adpi.com/adpi_promo.htm) which offers their PCMCIA interface,
LS-120 compatible version for $159. It claims to be Win95 plug-and-play and
also to have Windows 3.1 drivers, which might make it an ideal universal
floppy peripheral for Omnibooks.

Jonathan


At 04:54 PM 5/19/00, you wrote:
>Longden:
>PacRim, which used to make floppy drives for Omnibooks, was taken over by
>Analog & Digital Peripherals (ADPI). Their web site is www.adpi.com. They
>still make them. I bought their P35C parallel floppy disk system for
>$149.95 plus shipping for my Omnibook 300 and it works well.
>Jim

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On 19 May 00, at 9:29, Curtis Cameron wrote:
Stuff Snipped
> I have a program called DBCHECK, available at http://cameron.hplx.net
> which can detect most file errors, so that you won't back up a
> corrupted file. However, once it gets corrupted, your choices are more
> limited.
> Curtis Cameron
> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
I Have just downloaded DBCHECK , THANKS to everyone who
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Do you still have this?  If so can I get a copy?

Cavalier Leonard W CRBE wrote:
>
> Anyway, I used to use a little TSR program downloaded from an earlier incarnation of the S.U.P.E.R. site, that worked with the PrtScr (Print Screen) key to print a pixel-by-pixel screen dump, rotated and nearly the actual size of the screen.  All this was with my 95LX.
--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>  pgp 2.6.2 key
fingerprint =  33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4  7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E
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Chris,

> I've (manually) edited www.cfg to include:
>=20
> port=3D-1
> baud=3D38400 (and 19200)
> modem=3D1
> ModemInit=3DAT&F (also tried AT+CBST=3D0,0,1)

I recommend to leave WWW.CFG alone. Just have ONE standard dial up
setup per (each) ISP. Do the customization in the ÝWWW¨ section of
POST.CFG.

1) make sure your std dial up works.
2) If this std dial up section in WWW.CG is called CIS than enter
   GSM_CIS=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D00436624678 CIS
   into the ÝWWW¨ section of POST.CFG (use your correct phone nbr)
3) In POST/LX press Shift-F5 and select the GSM_CIS from the popup=20
   menu. Make sure you activate IrDA on your 7110 before. You may
   check the most important setup parameters with Ctrl-F5.

My ÝWWW¨ section in POST.CFG looks like this :

ÝWWW¨
ISP_A1NetPlus=3DA1Net
ISP_&CompuServe_Salzburg=3DCIS
ISP_&Netway=3DNetway
&Standard_Setup=3DPrefix=3D- ModemInit=3DAT&FM1 Port=3D2
&Office_Setup=3DPrefix=3D0 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M1 Port=3D2
&Hotel_Setup=3DPrefix=3D9 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M1 Port=3D2
No_Prefix=3DPrefix=3D-
A1-Stuttgart=3DA1Net Dial=3D07219662480
A1-Paris=3DA1Net Dial=3D0153001540
A1-Schweiz=3DA1Net Dial=3D0840840888
CIS-Amsterdam=3DCIS Dial=3D0207110510
CIS-&Villach=3DCIS Dial=3D0718915051
CIS-&Wien/Salzburg=3DCIS Dial=3D0718915161
CIS-&Paris=3DCIS Dial=3D0170700170
CIS-&D=FCsseldorf=3DCIS Dial=3D02114792424
CIS-&Frankfurt=3DCIS Dial=3D06973998611
CIS-N=FCrnberg=3DCIS Dial=3D09115191500
CIS-&Stuttgart=3DCIS Dial=3D07112261699
GSM_A1Net=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D0043664684000 A1Net
GSM_CIS=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D00436624678 CIS
GSM_Netway=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D004321701 Netway
<new item>=3D

As you see I have three ISP's and a pick list to select ISP,
home/office/hotel and nodes settings. There are only three setups in
WWW.CFG which keeps the cfg file small (small memory req during online
as well).

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 04:55:43 -0500
Reply-To:     Kat Deutscher <TheOpr@aol.com>
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From:         Kat Deutscher <katd@FREEWWWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Freewwweb & WWW/LX
Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

I have WWW/LX set up with my freewwweb account.

I don't have any problem using hv.exe, but don't have
POST/LX configured properly.

Is anyone willing to share their .cfg file?
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, May 19, 2000 15:17
Subject: Freewwweb & WWW/LX


>Fri, 19 May 2000 16:13:29 -0500 (EST)
>
>Hi All:
>
>   Is anyone using www/lx with a freewwweb account?
>
>
>   Cheers...AJKind
>
>
>
>*
>* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193
USA
>* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**
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Chris Randle wrote:

> I've finally replaced my five-year-old Nokia 2110 with a 7110,
> but haven't yet connected to the internet via the IR modem.
> ...
> www/lx reports connecting to the phone at 38400 OK. The phone
> dials , but almost immediately returns the UK tone (three
> ascending beeps) which signify a dropped line.

I had similar problems here in Germany for months and it almost
drove me crazy. I could dial my ISP manually on the S25 and
listen to the modem tones on the other side, but I could not
connect to the same number if the palmtop dialed it through the
S25 modem. Then, while travelling in Germany it turned out to
work in some citys, but not in every, and especially not in my
home town.

I had to learn, that voice calls (dialing manually on the phone)
are handled completely different from data calls (when the
modem dials) in GSM.

I called my GSM and ISP hotlines x-times to no avail. I was
demanding too much of them. Finally I got in contact with a
technician in a newsgroup. I knew him from TV, where he appears
from time to time in mobile related missions. He has good
contacts to my GSM provider and solved my problem. The solution
was:

-My GSM provider offers several phone numbers for my ISP,
 which I didn't know. But not every phone number worked in
 every region.

-The GSM base stations in the region where I live were wrong
 configured, so that no number worked. Viag (my GSM provider)
 fixed that and now I can always go online.

Without the help of this technician, I would have been lost.

Other than media let us believe, there are not many people
using a mobile to connect to the internet, otherwise it would
work flawlessly. Be aware, you are touching new ground!

Stefan

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Does anybody here use Thesaurus v4.2?  I have been unable to
figure out the proper cfg, it doesn't display the input word until
I hit the enter key (200lx).  Also, this is a fairly old program, is
there a more recent or better thesaurus program out there?

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Chris,

The problem here sounds like your account is not set up for Data calls.

Call your service provider (phone 100 from your mobile) and ask them to
enable data (and fax while you're at it). It shouldn't cost anything
to be enabled. Takes about 20 mins to update their records.
You may be given an additional number for incoming data and fax (the
voice stays the same).

I'm on Cellnet and use my 7110 all the time To connect to Dircon, Genie
and Freenetname.

Any problems let me know.

Dave

> From:    Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
> Subject: Connecting to internet via Nokia 7110 mobile IR

> www/lx reports connecting to the phone at 38400 OK. The phone
> dials , but almost immediately returns the UK tone (three
> ascending beeps) which signify a dropped line. If I manually

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<<<<<<Does anyone have any experience using the Pretec
CompactModem (follow the links from http://www.pretec.com)
in an LX? The specs say that it supports DOS and operates at
3.3V, but also mentions a minimum requirement of a 386 w/4MB
RAM. Anyone know just how necessary that last requirement
is?>>>>>

That may be a requirement for the driver.

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              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available
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I still have (2) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies Compact Flash
disks available. These disks are  in excellent condition and have only
been used a very few
times  to test a customers new prototype product at work. I am selling
these disks
for $75.00  a piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also just
got in (2) more
85 Meg PCMCIA  Type ATA II Sandisks. I am selling these for $120.00 a
piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (6) 20 Meg
PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell (1) 20 Meg disk
for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg
disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If you are only interested in
name brand Sandisks then I have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks available as
well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping
and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping.  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my
address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive  your payment and let
you know that your disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out
disks the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and
then I will send them out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble
wrap and place then in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If
you are interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your
disk or (disks) for you. The response on our group has been just great
and the people I have worked with have been really terrific!   Thanks
alot!  Scott

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Folks,
What strategies do you use to increase the chances that your palmtop
would be returned to you if you lost it and it was found by a
stranger?? Besides having my contact info and 'REWARD FOR RETURN' on my
topcard I also have a weekly macro in my apptbook that will start Memo
and open a text file with the same info... Recently I also signed up
with www.returnme.com Recd some fairly solid stickers to put on items.
These have a unique ID number and instrux for the finder to go to their
web site or call a 800 number to report finding the item. Then they
will do a FedEx pickup and get you your item back. At this point you
pay the FedEx cost, pay them a small fee, and pay the finder his/her
reward. Costs a nominal fee to get the stickers, seems worthwhile if it
increases the possibility of getting my 200lx back even a little...
What do you think?? Obviously these strategies will only work if a
relatively honest person finds your stuff..
Suresh

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All,
I have the following stuff that I want to clean out. I don't have time to
send to several destinations, so will ONLY sell as a single bundle. After
each item I indicate in brackets if it runs on a HP200lx, YES, NO, or ??
for stuff I haven't tried..... Also, sorry, but US only :-(
1) Sideways 3.21 - 5 1/4 diskette + manual (??)
2) ProCOMM Plus - 5 1/4 & 3 1/2 x 2 sets + 1 set of manuals (??)
3) XTree 2.0 - 5 1/4 disk + manual (??)
4) Borland dBASE IV for DOS 2.0 - 3 1/2 diskettes x 3 sets, no manual
(NO)
5) Lotus Symphony - 3 1/2 diskettes, no manual (??)
6) dBASE III Plus - 5 1/4 & 3 1/2 diskettes, no manual (YES)
7) Norton Utilities 5.0 3 1/2 diskettes, no manuals (??)
8) Wordperfect 5.1 - 3 1/2 diskettes, no manual (YES)
9) Alpha 4 2.0 - 5 1/4 diskettes, no manuals (YES)
10) Project Workbench 3.0 & 3.1 3 1/2 diskettes, no manual (??)
11) Norton Textra Writer 2.1 - 3 1/2 diskette, no manual (YES)
12) Microsoft FoxPro 2.0 DOS - 3 1/2 diskettes, no manual (YES)
13) German Assistant - 3 1/2 diskettes + manual (YES)
14) Personal Food Analyst - 3 1/2 diskette + manual (YES)
15) Word 5.5 for DOS diskettes + manuals (YES)
16) 1 Compaq 28800 data / 14400 fax pcCard modem, with out a dongle.... I
have no idea if it works or not...
17)  Also 1 unused leather case for the HP200lx (the Case-Tech one w/ =
belt loop...)
18) 1 unused PalmGear case for a Palm III...
19) Fuji Flash Path Floppy Disk Adapter Fd-A1 - allows you to read
SmartMedia on your Win95 box.
$30 + shipping for the lot..... Contact me off list if interested.... I
only check my CIS e-mail every other day, so don't expect an instantaneous
response!
Thanx,
Suresh

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On 2000-05-14 Jorgen said:
   >A version from 1997 willl run on 200LX. But if it's based upon
   >Arachne, then I guess it's not much news. I need a browser which
   >works with WATTCP and so far I have not seen a single browser which
   >works ok- including DOSLYNX, Arachne etc.
   >I guess the only solution is to write my own browser....
I know of no DOS browser that works with WATTCP...sorry.



Regards,
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On 2000-05-13 Ed Keefe said:
   >However GDBWIN will read
   >and use custom databases and let you create the content.
   Which alone makes it quite a valuable addition to the 200LX.
   Being able to use these databases on my desktop is quite a valuable
   feature.



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On 2000-05-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >I have been using the original HP95LX Chess from Andrew Glaister
   >for years. It came out as shareware for the 95LX but it plays just
   >fine on the 200LX. This program is just 5731 bytes in size!
   >You can select to play white or black and at any one of 5 levels.
   >This was originally posted to the CompuServe HPHand forum.  I think
   >he originally charged $25 to register but I don't know if he's even
   >still reachable.  The last number I had for Andrew was 708-670-8331.

I'm going to download this and try it out.  This might make my 95LX more
useful if I can use this to play chess on it as well.  Thanks for this
info.

Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

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Does anyone know of a good text editor that will work well on the 95LX?
The Memo program has some features I find particularly
irritating--especially the end of line character at the end of each
line.  A small (but good) text editor that would allow me to compose and
edit short text files would be greatly appreciated for the 95LX on the
days I am forced to use it.




Regards,
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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 15:36:02 -0700
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Suresh Nirody wrote:
>What strategies do you use to increase the chances that your palmtop
>would be returned to you if you lost it and it was found by a
>stranger??

The main time that I worry about this is when travelling. I make sure
to close out the apps so that it gets back to the top card. Also, my
top card has my name, phone number, e-mail address, and picture. I
have this fantasy that if I leave it in my airplane seat, someone will
pick it up, turn it on, then look up and say "there he is over there!"

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After I lost my first 200LX, I enforced a decision not to keep
sensitive data on it anymore.  I have "private" data that's loosely
encrypted with the built-in password file encryption, but that's stuff
that might be mildly embarrassing if it were compromised, but not
devastating.

I had full disk backups of my flash and internal RAM, so when I got
the new LX, I just popped in the new flashcard and unzipped the
backups and in effect, did a brain transplant onto the new one.

Also, there was some delay in getting the new LX, so soon after, I
resolved to always have a spare, and I keep track of high-cost
receipts related to the LX in case I need to file an insurance claim.
Also, I record all the serial numbers, not only for ID in case it gets
returned, but because it's desired in police and insurance reports
(plus it's just good practice).

Bottom line (and I know this differs from a lot of people) ... I don't
expect to see a lost LX again, and I've prepared for that eventuality.

I do have contact information on the opening screen (and did on the
first one too).   But my feeling is that the usefulness of the LX to
me drops in proportion to the amount of time, effort and worry I put
into it.  If I spent an inordinate amount of time fussing (ie as in
worry, not "play") over it .. I'd start to feel like its slave <g>.

- Longden

> >What strategies do you use to increase the chances that your palmtop
> >would be returned to you if you lost it and it was found by a
> >stranger??
>
> The main time that I worry about this is when travelling. I make sure
> to close out the apps so that it gets back to the top card. Also, my
> top card has my name, phone number, e-mail address, and picture. I
> have this fantasy that if I leave it in my airplane seat, someone will
> pick it up, turn it on, then look up and say "there he is over there!"

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 23:15:55 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Mark,

On Fri, 19 May 2000 18:41:23 -0700, Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:

> I could do it, alternately, Daniel.
> Ý...¨

Thanks a lot! I'm still thinking about it (and if I want to buy a GPS
device at all). I'll save your message with the offer, and when/if I'll
secide to buy one, I'll baybe come back to your offer.

Is there a simple way for you to find out how much the data cable for
the Garmin eTrex costs? I didn't find that at REI or Mountain
Equipment. And without the cable, the eTrey wouldn't be of much use for
me ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 23:27:22 +0200
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Hi LX-GPSers,

I tried surveying with LXGPS because of its recording of time
of each fix that allows differential correction. My GPS
(Apollo Precedus) does not record time in the track file.
Also, LXGPS allows file management and separate recording of
different data series, while the Precedus dumps all track data
into one general file, limited to 2000 points.

However, with LXGPS there seems to be a problem of data
resolution. Track points and waypoints, according to the
manual (LXGPS.DOC), are recorded as integral numbers of
degrees followed by a floating point number of minutes with
fractions of two decimals only. Tipically, I get readings like
3639.24, (36 degrees and 39.24 minutes). The maximum
resolution for degrees of latitude (111 km per degree) is thus
18 meters which, of course, is inadequate for surveying.

My GPS records the track in Degrees with 6 decimals which
results in a resolution of 11 centimeters (!) in the 6th
decimal. This is about adequate for suveying. However, this
data is either not handed to LXGPS or it is truncated by this
program.

Any idea how to increase resolution of LXGPS recorded data to
4 decimals ?

Thanks in advance
Winfried

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>> On Thu, 18 May 2000 00:26:18 +0200, I wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Gyorgy, Ebbe and others,
>> > Any experiences and comments on this topic (connecting SH888 and
>> 300LX)
>> > would be greatly appreciated by me for my mobile <--> HPLX web
>> page
>> > (http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx).
>>
> Sorry, of course I meant the 200LX, not the 300LX!

Tomas Moberg reported about SH888 & Hplx..TOMAS are you there? I have
not seen him here for weeks/months. Have not seen Lars either..Not sure
if they still subscribs to the list..

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 18:05:47 -0400
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Ed Padin wrote:
> >
> >> "if"?  sounds like you have a dangerous profession. let me guess:
> >>
> >> Secret Agent
> >> Cuban Refugee
> >> Chinese Human Rights Activist
> >> Hitchhiker
> >> Russian Submariner
> >> International Jewel Thief
> >> New York City Gypsy Cab Driver
> >> Coal Miner/Tunnel Digger/Sandhog
> >> Transdimensional/Temporal Traveler/Warrior
> >>

Or a person like me that had the opportunity to test Suzuki's new
Gsx750R motorcycle. It is one hell of a bike..I almost did not return
it to the shop :-)

I now have the fastest Hp200lx on the list. About 260 km/h :-))

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 18:59:55 -0400
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On Mon, 15 May 2000 14:29:03 +10, Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU> wrote:

> hi, can you connect a Nokia 5110 to the 700LX? regards Alain

Maybe you could use the datacable to connect Hplx/5110. Maybe you could
send sms's through it with Www/lx/Robot/lx. But you will not be able to
use it for data. 5110 does not contain a modem. (The same goes for
6110/6150)

You need a laptop to run a softwaremodem(read:Nokia Cellular Datasuite)

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 18:59:57 -0400
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On Thu, 18 May 2000 07:06:13 -0400, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Larry Tachna wrote:
> > >>Did anyone see the lik on D&A page regarding SETI?
> >
> > will their program run on a palmtop?
>
> ROFL... It crunches a lot of numbers in one work unit. Gary
> S estimated that if they had a program for the palmtop it
> would take several month to process a unit. :-)
>
> Perhaps we could connect all the 4000 machines Hal is
> getting into one "brain and process one unit in 15 minutes
> <G>...

ROFL..I use approx 27 hours to process a SETI@Home unit on my Celeron
400@552 Mhz. I have been "Jodie Foster in Contact" for about 3553 hours
and 125 units.

Do not think that if I get this going on my Hplx that I will crunch
any faster :-)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 18:59:58 -0400
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On Thu, 18 May 2000 23:22:57 -0600, RMCI <mjhibbs@RMCI.NET> wrote:

> Hey has anyone tried a Nokia GSM 6190 and the DataSuite Cable on a 200LX.

I have not tried this. But I have some experience with Nokia and Hplx.
I doubt that you can use your 6190 and this cable with the Hplx for
anything.

You can _not_ use it for data since the 6190 does not contain neither
irda or a modem. But maybe you could use it to send sms's. Check out
Andreas Garzottos sms.scr or Stefan Peichl's pdu script. Maybe it can
work with the datacable. But no data..

> I have seen the posts on the 7110, just wondering about this thing.

The 7190 will soon be on the market in the Us..

>  I also
> have an Ericcson CF888 with all it's accompanying software and cable.

I am not familiar with these models. But somebody on this list reported
that their Us model Ericsson worked through the irda dongle with
Hplx/www/lx. Here in Europe we had a model called Ericsson Sh888 that
had a real irda modem which is reported working with Hplx.

Sorry I can not help you with more info about this..

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Date:         Sun, 21 May 2000 01:32:12 +0000
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> Is there a simple way for you to find out how much the data cable for
> the Garmin eTrex costs? I didn't find that at REI or Mountain
> Equipment. And without the cable, the eTrey wouldn't be of much use for
> me ;-)

There is a simple way - call them!  (g)

$35.00 US.

They do ship to Germany but since it is Sat, that dept is not open for
inquiry.

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On Fri, 19 May 2000 17:25:12 -0400 Cavalier Leonard W CRBE
<CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL> writes:
> I have an HP 82240A printer, which is very similar to the "B"
> version.  In fact, I am not sure what differences there are, if any.
>  They both look and act the same.

Does  the driver by Tom Rundel on SUPER work with your printer?
Just wondering about its compatibilty with the "A" printer.

> Anyway, I used to use a little TSR program downloaded from an
> earlier incarnation of the S.U.P.E.R. site, that worked with the
> PrtScr (Print Screen) key to print a pixel-by-pixel screen dump,
> rotated and nearly the actual size of the screen.  All this was with
> my 95LX.  I don't think I ever bothered to check the availability of
> the same for the 100/200LX.  This capability certainly was
> impressive and entertaining, but I never had any practical use for
> this myself.

If you still have it, could I have a copy?  If not, would you happen
to remember the name?

TIA

Domingo

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Date:         Wed, 17 May 2000 23:48:11 +0200
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Jorgen Wallgren writes:
>
> Yes, it runs on the 200LX. But it takes so much memory, that a Software
> Carousel session is not enough on my unit. It's also very slow and has
> plenty of bugs. But it might be a good start.

I run it under DOSPPP in a MAXDOS session. When looging onto the SUPERNEW
site I couldnt see the details of all the program listings. It appears
as though some of them were displayed as black on black...

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Folks,
First response (from Jim Getz in SD) got the lot..
> All,
> I have the following stuff that I want to clean out. I don't have time =
to
> send to several destinations, so will ONLY sell as a single bundle. =
After
<SNIP>

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> > Is there a simple way for you to find out how much the data cable for
> > the Garmin eTrex costs? I didn't find that at REI or Mountain
> > Equipment. And without the cable, the eTrey wouldn't be of much use for
> > me ;-)

Not familiar with the newer eTrex model, but if it uses the same cable
as the GPS III and GPS 45 series, there is a cheap solution.  Check out
the Purple Open Projects web page at http://www.pfranc.com.  This guy
has a hardware shareware plan for Garmin GPS connectors.  You order
a number of connectors, and when you get them you pay what you think
they're worth.

In fact, I contacted this guy a couple of years back, and he agreed to
consider adding the HPLX serial connector to his offering, if we could
find the internal pins available somewhere.  Seems that I read on the
list that there is a source for the actual pins, so maybe we should
re-inquire and see if he's still interested.

-Chris

p.s.  Just checked myself, and he's currently working on the e-Trex
connector design.  Sounds like it will be available real soon now.


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Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> Or a person like me that had the opportunity to test Suzuki's new
> Gsx750R motorcycle. It is one hell of a bike..I almost did not return
> it to the shop :-)
>
> I now have the fastest Hp200lx on the list. About 260 km/h :-))
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill , Narvik, Norway
>

Surely not. Young 200Lxs often fly at speeds _much_ greater than that,
apparently without getting ahead of their own electrons. ;-)

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> > I have an HP 82240A printer, which is very similar to the "B"
> > version.  In fact, I am not sure what differences there are, if any.
> >  They both look and act the same.
>
> Does  the driver by Tom Rundel on SUPER work with your printer?
> Just wondering about its compatibilty with the "A" printer.


I may be wrong but I think the "B" printer has an auto power off mode
but may otherwise be very similar.

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David Ball wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good text editor that will work well on the 95LX?
> The Memo program has some features I find particularly
> irritating--especially the end of line character at the end of each
> line.  A small (but good) text editor that would allow me to compose and
> edit short text files would be greatly appreciated for the 95LX on the
> days I am forced to use it.

The Tiny Editor (10k T.EXE) is good and small; I don't know if it'll
work on the 95LX though.  It's on SUPER so you can try it and see.

cheers... Russ

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Longden Loo wrote:
> After I lost my first 200LX, I enforced a decision not to keep
> sensitive data on it anymore.  I have "private" data that's loosely
> encrypted with the built-in password file encryption, but that's stuff

I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice logical drive
which uses strong encryption.  The 200LX is more useful when you don't
have to worry about what Not to keep on it.

cheers... Russ

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I connect a Nokia 8210 to my hp200lx x2 speed with www/lx via irda.
If I use the 38400 option then I am able to connect and dl/ul stuff.
I do get a lot of "baud rate to high?" messages, especialy if i use
telnet.

But if i lower my baud rate to 19200 (or 9600) then I have problems with =
the
connection. Especialy DNS problems (!?).
I am not even able to connect to my ISP with that baud rate.

The irda connection is always what i tell it to be and the data
connection is always 9600 (the max connection speed for the Nokia 8210)
The modem init is atz
The Nokia 8210 is almost the same as the Nokia 8810.
With Peichls Ring.com I get EMI errors/sec=3D1

Any ideas how to optimize the connection?

      /tomas moberg
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fwd

GLOOM...

"The surprise is not that the viruses can spread across the world in the
blink of an eye, but that it doesn't happen constantly." In the wake of the
Love Bug, Oliver Morton casts a critical eye at the people who make
computers so easy to mess with.

http://www.newscientist.com/nl/0520/sin.html

..AND DOOM

The future is not looking any rosier either. Viruses aimed at intelligent
mobile phones and personal digital assistants (PDAs) could end up making the
Love Bug look positively benign. These new viruses, computer scientists
warn, will be able to record our conversations and forward them to others,
run up huge telephone bills, and even delete money from "electronic
wallets". According to Avi Ruben, a specialist in Internet security at AT&T
Laboratories in Florham Park, New Jersey, "The damage is limited only by
your imagination."

http://www.newscientist.com/nl/0520/mobile.html

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Domingo,

I tried modifying IR-Print so that it could print sideways. It
did work, but very very slowly, probably because everything needed
to be done in graphics mode. It was way too slow to be useful, so I
never released that version of the program.

Tom


On 16 May 2000 19:47:06 -0700, D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote:

 > Not sure what good this would do for the hplx, but I might as well ask:
 > Can the HP48GX print to the 82240B in sideways mode? That
 > for me would be the most useful addition to Tom Rundel's driver,
 > in addition to a larger font (larger than the 26 column mode).
 > It would be neat to be able to print a large banner in sideways
 > (with large letters).  I know, wishful thinking.
 >
 > Also, are the graphics printing capabilities of the HP48GX useful
 > outside of formulas and such?  ASCII line drawing would be interesting
 > to me (beyond the current borders produced by Tom's driver).
 >
 > I am just wondering what printing characteristics does the
 > HP48GX has which can output to the 82240B, other than numbers
 > and formula charts.
 >
 > Domingo
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Hello Again,

Update time for any Demon/Orange/Nokia 7110 users in the UK
(i.e. just me!). Thanks for all comments & suggestions. The
problem in my case (as David Cripps said) was that my mobile
service provider (Orange) had to enable data/fax calls.

My internet service provider (Demon) has a dedicated Orange
mobile number which is charged at a discounted Orange mobile
to Orange mobile rate. I tried that but no luck. Not entirely
sure why. It was originally intended to be used with the Orange
data card on older Nokias, and I think that might have some
bearing on it. I'll give Demon a call and ask.

Next I tried their standard dial-up number, and got straight
through at 9,600. E-mail sent successfully. Wow!

FYI, my phone's software rev. (key: *#0000#) is 4.80.

I've subsequently transferred SMS messages backwards & forwards
using D&A's script for their Robot/LX s/w. All good fun.

The phone's pretty nifty too. I can't help but feel that they
should have concentrated more on the user interface &
functionality for using the device as a phone, and a little
less on games & 35 ring tones (only 3 of which sound like a
phone). I guess that's what happens when you employ
snowboarders as programmers ;-)

----------

Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)


I wrote...

> I've finally replaced my five-year-old Nokia 2110 with a 7110,
> but haven't yet connected to the internet via the IR modem.
> Over the last few months, I've read & saved posts relating to
> connecting, and I hadn't anticipated much trouble. However, no
> luck.
> ...
> www/lx reports connecting to the phone at 38400 OK. The phone
> dials , but almost immediately returns the UK tone (three
> ascending beeps) which signify a dropped line. If I manually
> dial the number on the phone first, then try to connect, it
> gets as far as waiting for the connect, but never does,
> although there are lots of encouraging type sounds being
> made.

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I must report that during my 10 months of ownership the SH888 had to be =
sent away for repairs 6 times. I can NOTclaim to have extensive =
experience with it due to this, but when it worked it worked.  I usually =
placed it some 10 - 15 cm away from the LX and depending on conditions I =
usually connected on the first try. If radioconditions where not top =
quality it could take some two to three tries before I got through. The =
connection usually allowed some 100 - 150 Kb to get through before =
stalling, sometimes a lot more.

I have now received  a R320s in blue as a replacement direct from =
Ericsson. I earned it!!!  This was tested and it connected to the net on =
the third try. I have just used it for retrieving eamil yet, but =
extensive testing will start VERY soon. I have also tried the WAP-part =
of it and I must make Ken Olsson of Digital words mine: "snake oil" (He =
was talking about UNIX, I am talking about WAP)

Ebbe

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> Hi Gyorgy, Ebbe and others,
>=20
> On Thu, 4 May 2000 12:38:42 +0200, Fischer Gyorgy <skiboy@ELENDER.HU> =
wrote:
>=20
> > I recently got this phone (SH888) relatively cheap and used, in the =
hope
> > that I can use it with my HP200LX.
>=20
> Any experiences and comments on this topic (connecting SH888 and =
300LX)
> would be greatly appreciated by me for my mobile <--> HPLX web page
> (http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx).
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
> daniel
>=20
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Are these PC's worth looking into?

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On a mail from Chris Randle Stefan Peichl wrote:
=20
>I had to learn, that voice calls (dialing manually on the phone)
>are handled completely different from data calls (when the
>modem dials) in GSM.

>I called my GSM and ISP hotlines x-times to no avail. I was
>demanding too much of them. Finally I got in contact with a
>technician in a newsgroup. I knew him from TV, where he appears
>from time to time in mobile related missions. He has good
>contacts to my GSM provider and solved my problem. The solution
>was:

>-My GSM provider offers several phone numbers for my ISP,
>which I didn't know. But not every phone number worked in
>every region.
=20
Yes, and even fax calls are handled differently. This was the reason why =
the so called "mobile office" GSM-package Ýwhich was introduced when the =
HP 700LX was launched here (Singapore) in 96¨ provides for 3 different =
GSM numbers which are all on the same SIM Card in the Nokia 2110 (one =
each for phone/ data/fax). Even so, SingTel had to make technical =
adjustments later to enable the 700LX to retrieve the faxes which are =
stored in one of their fax-mailboxes. Nevertheless - being technology =
driven - they did it quickly, whereas back home in Germany I would =
probably still talk to the call-center.
=20
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=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&gt;I had to learn, that voice calls =
(dialing=20
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calls=20
(when the<BR>&gt;modem dials) in GSM.<BR><BR>&gt;I called my GSM and ISP =

hotlines x-times to no avail. I was<BR>&gt;demanding too much of them. =
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got in contact with a<BR>&gt;technician in a newsgroup. I knew him from =
TV,=20
where he appears<BR>&gt;from time to time in mobile related missions. He =
has=20
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solution<BR>&gt;was:<BR><BR>&gt;-My GSM provider offers several phone =
numbers=20
for my ISP,<BR>&gt;which I didn't know. But not every phone number =
worked=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Yes, and even fax calls are handled =
differently.=20
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GSM-package=20
Ýwhich was introduced when the HP 700LX was launched here (Singapore) in =
96¨=20
provides for 3 different GSM numbers which are all on the same SIM Card =
in the=20
Nokia 2110 (one each for phone/ data/fax). Even so, SingTel had to make=20
technical adjustments later to enable the 700LX to retrieve the faxes =
which are=20
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driven -=20
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On Sun, 21 May 2000 20:21:35 EDT Michael Stocker <MichStocker@CS.COM>
writes:
> Are these PC's worth looking into?

It depends.  I have one  (I asume you mean the Poqet Plus.  I also have
the classic).
The cards I use on my hplx are recognized on my Poqet Plus.  It has
backlight,
large screen and keyboard, and with power save mode disabled it is faster
than
my single speed hplx.   Downsides:

1-Battery life is limited to about 6 hours (that is bad or great,
depending on how you
look at it.

2-I cannot get mine to read flash cards larger than 20 megs (that is a
well known
problem, but I did not know it when I got mine).

3-It is larger and heavier than the hplx, and than the Poqet classic (my
classic was a
pleasure to use, not so much the plus because of size and weight)

4-While most programs run much faster on it, some run slower, no matter
what I
try (probably because of the next point).

5-It is a real xt, not an 8186 like the hplx, so the connectivity pack
doesn't run on it
(the cpack can be tricked to run on cga, but not on a real xt).  By the
same token,
I could not run other programs like FLEXPAD on it (I was looking to run
some
program on my Poqet Plus which would hold my hplx appointment book and
phone book, but without success.

6-California Digital (the company putting them on Ebay) has the worst
service of
any company I ever dealt with, and (other than the owner himself), they
have some
of the rudest salesmen around.

Other than that, it could be an alternative to getting an external
keyboard
and backlight upgrade to the hplx (that's why I got mine, but I have
grown to
depend on my 96 meg flash card too much, soon to get a larger one).
My 15 meg flash card works flawlessly on it.

As usual, YMMV.

Domingo

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Martin,

> ROFL..I use approx 27 hours to process a SETI@Home unit on my Celeron
> 400@552 Mhz. I have been "Jodie Foster in Contact" for about 3553 hours
> and 125 units.

My 300MHz machine does a work unit in under 13 hours. I think you
have the screen saver enabled - generating all those pretty graphics
takes up most of the time you quote. If you set the screen saver to
blank or none then your throughput will at least double.

> Do not think that if I get this going on my Hplx that I will crunch
> any faster :-)

It would be possible to write a SETI processor for the palmtop but the
results would not be accepted by the SETI project. In my professional
life I am currently doing very similar processing extracting signals
from noise for laser radar.

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On Mon, 22 May 2000, GaryS wrote:

> life I am currently doing very similar processing extracting signals
> from noise for laser radar.

Laser DSP?

Jeff

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Hi,

Just joined the HPLX-L Digest list recently, and have read the mailing list
archive backwards till Dec 1999.

My main 200LX is a 4mb single speed palmtop.

My back-up 200LX is marked "Palmtop PC - 2MB RAM/DS" at the top right
corner of the screen.  The serial number starts with SG703xxxxx.

The 200LX manual makes no reference to DS, but there is a two page Addendum
which states that "This HP 200LX Palmtop PC 2MB RAM/DS comes with a special
dual-speed crystal and driver."

So, does DS = Double Speed or Dual Speed ?

Is there some utility that can measure the palmtop's processing speed ?  I
have searched the Super site, but could not find any.

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I tried the screen Fix - none of the screws were loose and I didn't try
digging or prying to much further for fears I would break something. I did
determine that the flickering goes away after holding the screen in the 90
degree position, so I imagine it is a connection.

Thanks to everybody for their help!

Jim

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> So, does DS = Double Speed or Dual Speed ?
>
> Is there some utility that can measure the palmtop's processing speed ?  I
> have searched the Super site, but could not find any.

DS is double speed.  The processor's crystal is replaced with one that runs it at twice the normal speed.  This double speed normally makes the screen look odd, so a special driver is needed to correct the screen and serial communications.

The palmtop's built-in self test will measure the processor's speed.  Close all of you open applications.  Now turn your palmtop off.  Now hold down the ESC key while you turn it on.  This gives you the self-test menu.  If the screen is garbled, then th
e machine has a double speed upgrade, so just reboot.  If you can read the screen, run the processor test.  If the result is about twice the normal range, then you have a double speed upgrade.  DO NOT run the RAM card test on your PCMCIA card.  This tes
t was designed for SRAM cards and can destroy Flash RAM cards.

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>Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 23:46:16 -0400
>From:    Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
>Subject: Re: DS = Double Speed or Dual Speed ?
>
>DS is double speed.  The processor's crystal is replaced with one that
runs it at twice the normal speed.  This double speed normally makes the
screen look odd, so a special driver is needed to correct the screen and
serial communications.
>

On my DS palmtop, the screen looks normal without loading the special driver.

The double speed driver is 2xpt.com (3036 bytes), and "power improvement
driver for sdp3b" is sdpower.com (515 bytes).

>The palmtop's built-in self test will measure the processor's speed.
Close all of you open applications.  Now turn your palmtop off.  Now hold
down the ESC key while you turn it on.  This gives you the self-test menu.
If the screen is garbled, then th
>e machine has a double speed upgrade, so just reboot.  If you can read the
screen, run the processor test.  If the result is about twice the normal
range, then you have a double speed upgrade.  DO NOT run the RAM card test
on your PCMCIA card.  This tes
>t was designed for SRAM cards and can destroy Flash RAM cards.
>

Without the special driver, the screen does not look garbled when I did the
above test.

Which is the processor test on the menu?  I see Test All, Display,
Keyboard, Wire serial port, Batteries, RAM, ROM, IR serial port, Timers and
Plug-in RAM card.  None of them seems to be processor test.

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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 12:59:50 +0800
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I have used GDBIO (from Super) to convert my .csv (renamed to .cdf)
Contacts database into a GDB database file.   I have tried to format the
year as 2000 but GDBIO does not accept the 4-digit year format, and as a
result year 00 becomes 1900 after conversion to GDB.

Is there an additional parameter that I can specify in GDBIO to accept the
4-digit year format ?

TIA.

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I'm rather partial to SemWare's QEdit, myself.

"days I am forced to use it."?  Hmmm <G>

  Mark

David Ball wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good text editor that will work well on the 95LX?
> The Memo program has some features I find particularly
> irritating--especially the end of line character at the end of each
> line.  A small (but good) text editor that would allow me to compose and
> edit short text files would be greatly appreciated for the 95LX on the
> days I am forced to use it.
>
> Regards,
> dmb10@swbell.net

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Michael Stocker wrote:
> Are these PC's worth looking into?

I use one with a couple SRAM cards for a bedside machine for text
editing etc. - The backlight's nice.  It's quite huge next to the LX;
having 2 PCMCIA slots and next to no RAM sorta gets old, though.  I had
no joy with one 10Mb Flash on mine - I just use the SRAM's and drop them
into the LX to transfer data.  Could have been a bad flash card - I'll
retry the 16Mb Flash from my LX.

They're less expensive than the LX, certainly;  Just nowhere near as
carry-friendly, as Domingo said.

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>2-I cannot get mine to read flash cards larger than 20 megs (that is >a
>well known problem, but I did not know it when I got mine).

Actually it is possible to use flash cards larger than 20 Mb on the Poquet
Pc. This page contains a F.A.Q. which may answer most of your questions
concerning the Poquet PC.
http://www.primenet.com/~awong/service/poqet.html



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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:37 GMT
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I have a 1 Mb pamtop (Aarrgghh!!!) and I need an upgrade. I4m not sure if it
would be better to upgrade the Internal RAM or if I should buy a  Flash
Card. I have some questions concernig both upgrade paths.
1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow. Can you use
for example Wordperfect 5.1 from a Flash card on a 1x Hp? www/lx? Is the
battery life significantly shorter with this card inserted? By significantly
shorter I mean half the normal battery life or less. I prefer the internal
upgrade, but flash cards are half the price per megabyte.
2)I have another problem, I live in Europe and therefore I would have to
send my Palmtop to the USA. The cost becomes really high when you add up
everything ( Including the fact that the Euro is really low compared to the
Dollar!) Is internal memory upgraded in Europe?

Thanks.

Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 11:04:51 +0200
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There are distributors in England for Kingston compact flash memory - this
would be one way for me to import stuff to South Africa since they have
distributors in South Africa too.

I wish Thaddeus had some presence in South Africa but we're too "agter die
bult" (read "behind the rest of the world") for specialised electronics.
Actually it's easy to get a new product - but support and peripherals have
to be imported and that's a mission and very expensive.

I would suggest buy a refurbished LX from Thaddeus with 32 mb on-board - you
should be able to trade your old one in.

Any comments?

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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 10:32 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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>
> I have a 1 Mb pamtop (Aarrgghh!!!) and I need an upgrade. I4m not sure if
> it
> would be better to upgrade the Internal RAM or if I should buy a  Flash
> Card. I have some questions concernig both upgrade paths.
> 1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow. Can you use
> for example Wordperfect 5.1 from a Flash card on a 1x Hp? www/lx? Is the
> battery life significantly shorter with this card inserted? By
> significantly
> shorter I mean half the normal battery life or less. I prefer the internal
> upgrade, but flash cards are half the price per megabyte.
> 2)I have another problem, I live in Europe and therefore I would have to
> send my Palmtop to the USA. The cost becomes really high when you add up
> everything ( Including the fact that the Euro is really low compared to
> the
> Dollar!) Is internal memory upgraded in Europe?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 11:34:50 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 20 May 2000, David Ball wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good text editor that will work well on the 95LX?
> The Memo program has some features I find particularly
> irritating--especially the end of line character at the end of each
> line.  A small (but good) text editor that would allow me to compose and
> edit short text files would be greatly appreciated for the 95LX on the
> days I am forced to use it.

Well, in my not so humble opinion, Freyja is the best editor for the 95LX.
Granted, it is based on EMACS, which leads to a set of commands and
controls that you either love or hate, but it has support for menus like
any built-in 95LX program (so you don't *have* to learn EMACS commands
unless you find it too slow to use the menu all the time). The good things
about Freyja are that it is System Manager compliant - you don't have to
be in DOS to run it and can run it alongside other applications (although
Freyja tends to eat a fair amount of memory, but that's configurable), it
supports softfonts, right down to a tiny 80x25 font that is pretty much
unreadable. The 64x20 (or something like that) font is pretty good though,
and a good comprimise. Other than that, Freyja also supports some
alignment commands (at least centering of text) and cut and paste (EMACS
style)

Of course, Freyja might be overkill if all you want to do is edit small
text files and if you're generally happy with Memo except for the EOL
display (which I didn't like either - I wonder why HP left it in?). Buddy
for the 95LX has a feature that removes the EOL display, so that's a
solution too.

Both programs can be found in the 95LX section of the SUPER site.


Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:52 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 22 May 2000 09:42:38 -0400 (EDT)

05h11m01s ago ...
On Mon, 22 May 2000, xxxxx xxxxxxx wrote:

> I have a 1 Mb pamtop (Aarrgghh!!!) and I need an upgrade.

Is this a 200LX or 100LX?  Only the 200LX can be memory-upgraded.  Both
can be speed doubled.

> I4m not sure if it
> would be better to upgrade the Internal RAM or if I should buy a  Flash
> Card. I have some questions concernig both upgrade paths.
> 1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow. Can you =
use
> for example Wordperfect 5.1 from a Flash card on a 1x Hp? www/lx? Is =
the
> battery life significantly shorter with this card inserted? By significa=
ntly
> shorter I mean half the normal battery life or less. I prefer the =
internal
> upgrade, but flash cards are half the price per megabyte.

Older flash cards were slower (at least when writing).  Current ones
are decently fast.  Don't have WP 5.1, but WWW/LX ran OK from flash on
my old 1x 100LX.  They'll use extra battery power, but life should be
better than 1/2.

> 2)I have another problem, I live in Europe and therefore I would have =
to
> send my Palmtop to the USA. The cost becomes really high when you add =
up
> everything ( Including the fact that the Euro is really low compared to =
the
> Dollar!) Is internal memory upgraded in Europe?

AFAIK, yes.  I believe Rundel Datentechnik does the upgrades in Europe.
Don't have the address, but I'm sure someone on the list does.


HTH

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 10:05:57 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Ebbe Horneman wrote:

> I have now received a R320s in blue as a replacement direct from
> Ericsson.

Hey another norwegian Hplx user..:-)

How is the soundquality on the R320s? The first shipment of R320s in
Norway had a "gsm noise" problem that was real bad if two R320s was
calling each other. This was due to a faulty component.

The second shipment had also a noise problem that Ericsson called
"comfort noise". There are also reports of the menu being slow/buggy..

I will go an borrow one when they get it here in Narvik.

> I earned it!!! This was tested and it connected to the net on
> the third try. I have just used it for retrieving eamil yet, but
> extensive testing will start VERY soon.

Could you also test how many emi errors you get? For more info on this
visit http://daniel.hplx.net

> I have a lso tried the
> WAP-part of it and I must make Ken Olsson of Digital words mine: "snake
> oil" (He was talking about UNIX, I am talking about WAP)

Wap works okey. I check my email when the smsnotifing does not work
with Mobilpost. I also check some wapsites before going for a ride on
my motorcycle to see if there are any police speedtraps on the road I
am going to ride on..  Wap is slow, but works okey.

Regards

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> Does anyone know of a good text editor that will work well on the
95LX?
> The Memo program has some features I find particularly
> irritating--especially the end of line character at the end of
each
> line.  A small (but good) text editor that would allow me to
compose and
> edit short text files would be greatly appreciated for the 95LX on
the
> days I am forced to use it.

I used to use qedit on my 95lx.  Qedit wants a 80x25 screen but I
made a macro that would make a 16 line window and I used a batch
file that called qedit and made it run that macro.  It works
beautifully.  I still do that on my 200lx in the 40x16 and 64x18
modes.

You can also set wordwrap to keep your text within the screen width
with a macro.  I don't normally do this since I only edited
programs, but the times that I have done it it worked just fine.

Qedit is a very powerful editor and it's small (53k) and only the
executable file is actually needed.  As soon as I got an sram card I
also started keeping the configuration program onboard too.

Barry

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Does anyone on the list have any feedback on a Kodak DC280 camera? I'm
looking at buying one and would like some real-world opinions. Does anyone
here have one they want to part with?

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 10:35:29 -0400
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I have seen that site before, and it only confirms that
flash cards can be *formatted* on the Poqet Plus, but it
says nothing about *reading* the card (I emailed the site
owner before about it, with no response).  Yes, I know
that's weird, but that is what is happening with the Poqet
Plus.

Domingo

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Subject: Re: Poquet PC


>2-I cannot get mine to read flash cards larger than 20 megs
(that is >a
>well known problem, but I did not know it when I got mine).

Actually it is possible to use flash cards larger than 20 Mb
on the Poquet
Pc. This page contains a F.A.Q. which may answer most of
your questions
concerning the Poquet PC.
http://www.primenet.com/~awong/service/poqet.html



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Also brings up the comparison to the earlier Omnibooks (300, 425, 430, 530)
which still show up on ebay these days also in the $100 range.

These are more clearly in the sub-notebook class (6.4x11.1x1.4in vs 5.12" X
9.05" X 1.42" for Poquet+), but is supposed to bring close to the same kind of
battery life as the Poquet (at least when using a flash card vs hard drive).

They didn't come with backlighting, but sport a bigger mono VGA screen and
386/486 processors (low powered) ... and a really nice keyboard (albeit with no
LX style numeric keypad). They look like a 200LX that went thru an enlarger <g>.

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> Are these PC's worth looking into?

<snipped all the downsides>

Other than that, it could be an alternative to getting an external keyboard and
backlight upgrade to the hplx (that's why I got mine

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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 16:56:46 +0200
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Hi friends,

On Sun, 21 May 2000 21:34:07 -0400, D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> (the cpack can be tricked to run on cga, but not on a real xt).  By the

How can the CPack be run on CGA??

GTX
daniel

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I sold a spare NSW 4 mb chip to list member Quinton (QMAN) who says he used it
to upgrade his 100LX to 5mb (and did emphasize to me that it was 100LX, not
200LX).

Regarding flash speed, I found my 48mb Sandisk CF and 40mb Simple Technology
PCMCIA flash cards to be close to speed as internal memory.  This is not the
case with all flash cards.  Also, power usage varies somewhat across brands
depending on their internal controllers.

Rundel's website is -> http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/

- Longden





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> I have a 1 Mb pamtop (Aarrgghh!!!) and I need an upgrade.

Is this a 200LX or 100LX?  Only the 200LX can be memory-upgraded.  Both
can be speed doubled.

> I4m not sure if it
> would be better to upgrade the Internal RAM or if I should buy a  Flash
> Card. I have some questions concernig both upgrade paths.
> 1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow. Can you use
> for example Wordperfect 5.1 from a Flash card on a 1x Hp? www/lx? Is the
> battery life significantly shorter with this card inserted? By significantly
> shorter I mean half the normal battery life or less. I prefer the internal
> upgrade, but flash cards are half the price per megabyte.

Older flash cards were slower (at least when writing).  Current ones
are decently fast.  Don't have WP 5.1, but WWW/LX ran OK from flash on
my old 1x 100LX.  They'll use extra battery power, but life should be
better than 1/2.

> 2)I have another problem, I live in Europe and therefore I would have to
> send my Palmtop to the USA. The cost becomes really high when you add up
> everything ( Including the fact that the Euro is really low compared to the
> Dollar!) Is internal memory upgraded in Europe?

AFAIK, yes.  I believe Rundel Datentechnik does the upgrades in Europe.
Don't have the address, but I'm sure someone on the list does.

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xxxxx xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> ...
>
> 1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow.
>

Such things are _always_ a matter of individual perception, `slow' may
not mean the same thing to different people.  That said, I can safely say that
90%+ of my activity on my 200Lx is not speed limited anyway, so the impact on me
is negligable.

> Is the battery life significantly shorter with this card inserted? By
> significantly shorter I mean half the normal battery life or less.

I never measure battery life, but that is because it is so long I never
notice it. My cards certainly don't cut my battery life in any way I
notice it.

> I prefer the internal upgrade, but flash cards are half the price per
> megabyte.

I don't. The `internal upgrade' is _only_ useful on the 95/100/200. Memory
cards are useful in _all_ of your machines with PCMCIA slots, and the
memory cards are a valuable vehicle for moving information from one system
to another. The memory _inside_ your machine is _only_ of use to the machine,
nothing else.

At the same cost I'd prefer the PCMCIA card. At half the cost it is
a no-brainer.

> 2)I have another problem, I live in Europe and therefore I would have to
> send my Palmtop to the USA. The cost becomes really high when you add up
> everything ( Including the fact that the Euro is really low compared to the
> Dollar!) Is internal memory upgraded in Europe?
>

Don't know.

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Hi all,

I wanted to let you know that the version of NTIME that Mike Kopplin
compiled recently (thanks Mike!) worked for me on both dial-up and
ethernet connections, both with and without TCP.CFG files.  Without
a TCP.CFG file it used dhcp (on my LAN) and bootp (on my dial-up).

Also, with Mike's help I was finally able to get LXTELNET running
over my Accton card on my work LAN.  As Mike pointed out, LXTELNET
is picky about having all the server parameters correctly listed in
the config file.

Thanks to Mike Kopplin for the recompiled file and the help, and
thanks to Al Kind for sending me the recompiled NTIME.

I would like to see the updated version of NTIME put on SUPER--who
should I send it to?

Ted

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Russ and the list...

Can you expand on this "SecureDevice"?  What is it?

Thanks,

Marc

>
> I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice logical =
drive
> which uses strong encryption.  The 200LX is more useful when you don't
> have to worry about what Not to keep on it.
>
> cheers... Russ
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> Date:    Sat, 20 May 2000 23:27:22 +0200
> From:    Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
> Subject: GPS surveying with LXGPS
>
> Hi LX-GPSers,
>
> I tried surveying with LXGPS because of its recording of time
> of each fix that allows differential correction. My GPS
> (Apollo Precedus) does not record time in the track file.
> Also, LXGPS allows file management and separate recording of
> different data series, while the Precedus dumps all track data
> into one general file, limited to 2000 points.
>
> However, with LXGPS there seems to be a problem of data
> resolution. Track points and waypoints, according to the
> manual (LXGPS.DOC), are recorded as integral numbers of
> degrees followed by a floating point number of minutes with
> fractions of two decimals only. Tipically, I get readings like
> 3639.24, (36 degrees and 39.24 minutes). The maximum
> resolution for degrees of latitude (111 km per degree) is thus
> 18 meters which, of course, is inadequate for surveying.
>
> My GPS records the track in Degrees with 6 decimals which
> results in a resolution of 11 centimeters (!) in the 6th
> decimal. This is about adequate for suveying. However, this
> data is either not handed to LXGPS or it is truncated by this
> program.
>
> Any idea how to increase resolution of LXGPS recorded data to
> 4 decimals ?
>

Don't bother - you won't capture the necessary data for applying DGPS
corrections. The Precedus is not DGPS-capable. For that you need to know
the satellites used in obtaining a position, which probably will differ
between mobile and base stations unless you're working in the Sahara and
staying fairly close to the base station (GPS signal path is subject to
all kinds of obstructions - buildings, trees, etc., as well as
atmospheric conditions). DGPS correction data consists of the error
inherent in *each satellite's signal*, not in actual physical location.
See also: http://joe.mehaffey.com/poordgps.htm. The Precedus may record 6
decimal places of precision, but it will still be *accurate*only to 2.5
decimal places, same as any other receiver. You won't be able to get
*accurate* post-processing data, no matter how *precise* the numbers are,
because you won't know if you were using the same satellites. Sorry.

Jon

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My experience with flash disks is that there is only one case where they
are slow. That is when you run Stacker. I have no patience for a stacked
disk. If you remove stacker, the flash disk will run much faster. You
won't have as much storage, but you can contact our buddy Scott for a
bigger flash disk.

On Mon, 22 May 2000 11:10:07 -0400 David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> writes:
> xxxxx xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > 1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow.
>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russel Brooks Ýmailto:rlbrooks@POBOX.COM¨
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:54 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Loss mitigation strategies..
ÝSNIP¨
> I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice
> logical drive
> which uses strong encryption.  The 200LX is more useful when you don't
> have to worry about what Not to keep on it.
>
> cheers... Russ
>


Where can I get securedevice for DOS?

thanks for taking the time and regards

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: Russel Brooks Ý<A HREF="mailto:rlbrooks@POBOX.COM">mailto:rlbrooks@POBOX.COM</A>¨</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:54 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: Re: Loss mitigation strategies..</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ÝSNIP¨</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; logical drive</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; which uses strong encryption.&nbsp; The 200LX is more useful when you don't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; have to worry about what Not to keep on it.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; cheers... Russ</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Where can I get securedevice for DOS?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>thanks for taking the time and regards</FONT>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curtis Cameron Ýmailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET¨
> Subject: Re: Loss mitigation strategies..
ÝSNIP¨
>
> The main time that I worry about this is when travelling. I make sure
> to close out the apps so that it gets back to the top card. Also, my
> top card has my name, phone number, e-mail address, and picture. I
> have this fantasy that if I leave it in my airplane seat, someone will
> pick it up, turn it on, then look up and say "there he is over there!"

How do you get your picture on the topcard?

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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: Curtis Cameron Ý<A HREF="mailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET">mailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET</A>¨</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: Re: Loss mitigation strategies..</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ÝSNIP¨</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; The main time that I worry about this is when travelling. I make sure</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; to close out the apps so that it gets back to the top card. Also, my</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; pick it up, turn it on, then look up and say &quot;there he is over there!&quot;</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>How do you get your picture on the topcard?</FONT>
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Mon, 22 May 2000 14:38:32 -0400 (EDT)

01h13m43s ago ...
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Corso, Tony wrote:

> How do you get your picture on the topcard?

The topcard is just a black & white (negative image) PCX file.  The
dimensions are 640 x 200.  If you have a digital camera or scanner, you
can import the image into pretty much any graphics software (hate to
admit it, but this'll work a lot easier in Windoze).  Add the text
info.  Reduce it to 2 colors, select negative image, and save as a PCX.
Transfer the file to the palmtop, and select the new image as topcard.


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Mon, 22 May 2000 15:00:38 -0400 (EDT)

Hi gang -

Forgot one very important thing about preparing topcards in windoze
graphics software.  To adjust for the palmtop's pixel aspect ratio,
you'll need to make the original file 640 x 240 NOT 640 x 200.  After
everything else seems OK, use the software to change ONLY the vertical
dimension from 240 to 200.  The image will look squashed on the windoze
machine, but will be correct on the palmtop.


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LOOKING FOR 95LX?
ANY SELLERS???
THANX
GARRON@HOTMAIL.COM










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>Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:51:31 -0400
>
>Russ and the list...
>
>Can you expand on this "SecureDevice"?  What is it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marc
>
> >
> > I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice logical drive
> > which uses strong encryption.  The 200LX is more useful when you don't
> > have to worry about what Not to keep on it.
> >
> > cheers... Russ
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check out http://www.megapixel.net/html/issueindex.html
for digi camera reviews... there are possibly other sites but haven't
spent the time to look for them...


On Mon, 22 May 2000 07:32:58 -0700, you wrote:

>Does anyone on the list have any feedback on a Kodak DC280 camera? I'm
>looking at buying one and would like some real-world opinions. Does =
anyone
>here have one they want to part with?
>
>Jeff
>
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Well, if Palm, Epoch and WinCE are the dominant players, it'll be interesting to
see which platform gets the primal first bug.

I agree, that mass-consumption connected computers such as PDAs and phones are
just challenge waiting to be taken by the virus writers.

Sorta makes you long for the days when the only connectivity issue was whether
she'd say "yes" <g>.

- Longden





Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> on 05/20/2000 09:38:21 PM

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..AND DOOM

The future is not looking any rosier either. Viruses aimed at intelligent
mobile phones and personal digital assistants (PDAs) could end up making the
Love Bug look positively benign. These new viruses, computer scientists
warn, will be able to record our conversations and forward them to others,
run up huge telephone bills, and even delete money from "electronic
wallets". According to Avi Ruben, a specialist in Internet security at AT&T
Laboratories in Florham Park, New Jersey, "The damage is limited only by
your imagination."

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  I have one in pretty good shape (although the plastic IR window is
missing).  What are you offering($)?

        ... JLS

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Mon, 22 May 2000 16:28:53 -0500 (EST)

Now that's a nasty way to catch a VIRUS...or so I've heard ;-)

Cheers...AJKind

01h28m44s ago ...
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> ...
> Sorta makes you long for the days when the only connectivity issue was =
whether
> she'd say "yes" <g>.
>
> - Longden
>
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Hi

On Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:52 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> AFAIK, yes.  I believe Rundel Datentechnik does the upgrades in Europe.
> Don't have the address, but I'm sure someone on the list does.

Yes, Rundel does upgrades in Europe.
See http://www.rundel-d.com

GTX
daniel

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>From: "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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>Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:22:16 -0500
>
>   I have one in pretty good shape (although the plastic IR window is
>missing).  What are you offering($)?
>
>         ... JLS
>
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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 21:46:34 +0200
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Jon,

thanks for your interesting comments. I would like to dig a
bit into what you said hoping for more enlightenment on this
fascinating subject.

>...The Precedus is not DGPS-capable.

According to the manual (page 53). the Precedus does have a
port for "DGPS 1200B". Also, "DGPS" is printed onto the small
rubber cover for the three ports (battery, DGPS and Serial
I/O). To my knowledge the port can be used for real time
differential correction via radio receiver.

>... you need to know
>the satellites used in obtaining a position, which probably will differ
>between mobile and base stations .... You won't be able to get
>*accurate* post-processing data, no matter how *precise* the numbers are,
>because you won't know if you were using the same
satellites...

This is most interesting because it would invalidate any
measurements based on post-processing differential correction,
as most likely the field receiver will, for a good part of the
fixes catch some satellites in the group different fom the
ones the base station receives.

The question here is what is "accurate" ? When I hired a
Magellan special survey field unit for a day (purchase price
around $6000) the recorded fixes were post processed with data
taken at the base station with another unit equal to the one I
had taken with me. I was assured (with SA still in place),
that the error would be not greater than 1 meter. Is the error
you quote covered by the range of 1 meter ? Otherwise, the
topographers I contacted would have invested 12.000 Dollars
into useless equipment. This seems unlikely to me. So what do
you mean by "accurate" ?

Thanks in advance
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If I recall correctly, a japanese subscriber told us to
remove references to cg.exe from the .bat file which starts
the cpack.

Domingo

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Hi friends,

On Sun, 21 May 2000 21:34:07 -0400, D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
wrote:

> (the cpack can be tricked to run on cga, but not on a real
xt).  By the

How can the CPack be run on CGA??

GTX
daniel

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The soundquality seem to be a bit on the thin  side but OK. As far as I =
know the menu functions OK. It takes some time to get used to the =
layout.

Ebbe
----- Opprinnelig melding -----=20

> Ebbe Horneman wrote:
>=20
> > I have now received a R320s in blue as a replacement direct from
> > Ericsson.
>=20
> Hey another norwegian Hplx user..:-)
>=20
> How is the soundquality on the R320s? The first shipment of R320s in
> Norway had a "gsm noise" problem that was real bad if two R320s was
> calling each other. This was due to a faulty component.
>=20
> The second shipment had also a noise problem that Ericsson called
> "comfort noise". There are also reports of the menu being slow/buggy..
>=20
> I will go an borrow one when they get it here in Narvik.
>=20
> > I earned it!!! This was tested and it connected to the net on
> > the third try. I have just used it for retrieving eamil yet, but
> > extensive testing will start VERY soon.
>=20
> Could you also test how many emi errors you get? For more info on this
> visit http://daniel.hplx.net
>=20
> > I have a lso tried the
> > WAP-part of it and I must make Ken Olsson of Digital words mine: =
"snake
> > oil" (He was talking about UNIX, I am talking about WAP)
>=20
> Wap works okey. I check my email when the smsnotifing does not work
> with Mobilpost. I also check some wapsites before going for a ride on
> my motorcycle to see if there are any police speedtraps on the road I
> am going to ride on..  Wap is slow, but works okey.
>=20
> Regards
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> Which is the processor test on the menu?  I see Test All, Display,
> Keyboard, Wire serial port, Batteries, RAM, ROM, IR serial port, Timers and
> Plug-in RAM card.  None of them seems to be processor test.

Sorry, the test I mean is the one labled "timers".  This looks at how fast the processor works.  See if it gives you a normal result or one that is about twice normal.

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> Is there an additional parameter that I can specify in GDBIO to accept the
> 4-digit year format ?

I don't know of a way to do this, but I don't use this program much.  I would use a System Macro to find and replace the problem years.

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Marc - wrote:
> Can you expand on this "SecureDevice"?  What is it?
> >
> > I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice logical drive
> > which uses strong encryption.  The 200LX is more useful when you don't
> > have to worry about what Not to keep on it.

Look for SECDEV14.ZIP on S.U.P.E.R.  http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

SC is a DOS device driver that makes an encrypted file look like another
drive on your system.  You pick the size of the drive (and therefore
that file size) and also choose a password.  I use a 64K drive size
which is plenty big enough for the few files and passwords I keep in
it. You have to login and logout to make the drive accessable or not.
You can also set a timeout value so the drive automatically becomes
locked after you haven't accessed it for a predetermined time.

SC uses the IDEA cipher which is supposed to be very good.  I am not a
cryptographer and I can't comment on the security of its implementation
in SECDEV14.  Like most any encryption product it comes down to blind
trust because 99.999% of us don't have the skills to evaluate them and
there is so much marketing hype that the producers (usually) aren't to
be trusted.

I feel confident in saying SecDev is (probably) FAR more secure than any
encryption built into the 200LX.

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I hope you don't mind my sending this reply to the list, so
others can comment on it.

------Original Message------
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To: "'ddvteach@juno.com'" <ddvteach@juno.com>
Sent: May 22, 2000 3:54:38 PM GMT
Subject: RE: HP 82240B printer and the HP200LX



<< on both the printer and the palmtop side.  That was
called "IR Print Screen," and it is available at the SUPER
site under 95LX programs, Utilities. >>

That driver crashes my 200lx hard when attempting to print
screen.  I wonder if anyone on the list would be interested
in modifying the included source code so that it would work
with the hp200lx? (hint, hint.  :-)  )

<< Do you happen to know the difference(s) between the "A"
and "B" models? >>

Sorry,  I never heard of the A model until you mentioned it.

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Does anyone know if the Thumbalina is still availble?  Thanks.

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The HP340 printer works fine with the palmtop, though it
would be great if the smaller Cannon would work with it.
The main problem with the 82240B is speed.  It is a
curiosity which can be useful at times, specially if it
could be made to print with more options.

Domingo

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But I'm sure you want portability. So get a sub-notebook
(Toshiba) and a small battery operated ink-jet (Canon etc)
and a nice leather carry - case and you're all set!!

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Try http://www.questecmouse.com/

Mike


On Mon, 22 May 2000, Colin Thompson wrote:

> Does anyone know if the Thumbalina is still availble?  Thanks.
>
> Colin
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I have a double speed 1MB 200LX that I keep as a spare.

Both batteries went out while in storage, so I've lost all RAM data.

Questions:
  1. Where do I go to download double speed driver(s)?
  2. What drivers do I need?
  3. How do I load the drivers into the unit?

PROBLEM: When I turn on the unit on the screen is distorted with vertical
banding.  I am assuming that this is being caused by the DS upgrade.  The
problem is that with no usable display, how do I load the drivers?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Comments: cc: MichStocker@CS.COM

   >I have a double speed 1MB 200LX that I keep as a spare.
   >Both batteries went out while in storage, so I've lost all RAM data.
   >Questions:
   >1. Where do I go to download double speed driver(s)?
Message-Id: <20000523013345.TMWP1605.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.233¨>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:33:51 +0000

If this is a Times2Tech type upgrade, try www.times2tech.com

   >2. What drivers do I need?

I believe the website should tell you.  On mine (old), it's spd31.sys

   >3. How do I load the drivers into the unit?

It doesn't have to be in the unit ... you can have it on a flashcard
and load it in config.sys  ->  device=a:\spd31.sys


   >PROBLEM: When I turn on the unit on the screen is distorted with
   >vertical banding.  I am assuming that this is being caused by the
   >DS upgrade.  The problem is that with no usable display, how do I
   >load the drivers?

If you don't have access to a flashcard, you can still do it via serial
cable and cpack, or zip or datacomm ... you just have to work somewhat
blind.  Everything on the LX is still working ... you just can't see it.
We can give you more guidance if we knew what resources you had.

Simplest would be to use a spare flash card, donwload the drivers
onto it (if you have access to a notebook computer), make a config.sys
on the card that points to the driver... load the card and boot.

Look on the T2T website, they may have more suggestions on recovery.

Good luck.

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In a message dated 5/22/00 9:35:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

>
>  It doesn't have to be in the unit ... you can have it on a flashcard
>  and load it in config.sys  ->  device=a:\spd31.sys
>
>
Thanks, Longden.  I didn't think about booting from a: drive.

Your help is appreciated.

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On Sun, 21 May 2000 17:24:49 -0500 Rundel Datentechnik
<palmtop@RUNDEL-D.COM> writes:
> Domingo,
>
> I tried modifying IR-Print so that it could print sideways. It
> did work, but very very slowly, probably because everything needed
> to be done in graphics mode. It was way too slow to be useful, so I
> never released that version of the program.

I would be interested to see just how slow the program is, versus
how useful.   Could there be a chance to try it?

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GARRON GARRON wrote:
>
> LOOKING FOR 95LX?
> ANY SELLERS???
> THANX
> GARRON@HOTMAIL.COM
>
> >From: Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET>
> >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>, zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET
> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject: Re: Loss mitigation strategies..
> >Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:51:31 -0400
> >
> >Russ and the list...
> >
> >Can you expand on this "SecureDevice"?  What is it?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Marc
> >
> > >
> > > I keep sensitive data on mine; I keep it in a SecureDevice logical drive
> > > which uses strong encryption.  The 200LX is more useful when you don't
> > > have to worry about what Not to keep on it.
> > >
> > > cheers... Russ
> > >
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Garron! I have a HP95LX 1MB ALSO WITH 1MB PC CARD
I don't know what the used price  we can go to www.mrpalmtop.com maybe
they
have it listed.(after all these years I doubt it)
 In 1997 the cost was street price $189.99 but now that's out the
window.
I guess it's between how much you want it and what it means or value to
the seller.

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   >Thanks, Longden.  I didn't think about booting from a: drive.
   >Your help is appreciated.
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No problemo Michael.

Methinks you've been away too long <g>.

I boot from my internal drive whenever I need my modem card in the slot, so
I have the DS driver in C.  To protect against losing the speed driver in a
disk crash on C, I have the following opening lines in my autoexec.bat:


@echo off
if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
md c:\utl
copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
a:\utl\boot.com
:nxt1

.. and the rest is normal autoexec stuff.

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>Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 18:42:21 -0400
>From:    Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
>Subject: Re: DS = Double Speed or Dual Speed ?

>> Which is the processor test on the menu?  I see Test All, Display,
>> Keyboard, Wire serial port, Batteries, RAM, ROM, IR serial port, Timers
and
>> Plug-in RAM card.  None of them seems to be processor test.
>
>Sorry, the test I mean is the one labled "timers".  This looks at how fast
the processor works.  >See if it gives you a normal result or one that is
about twice normal. Steve Carder

On my DS, it reports "time bad" , and towards the screen bottom, it says:-
Timer: 21842  (limits: 10700 to 10916)

Perhaps, above is an indication of DS.

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>Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 18:42:23 -0400
>From:    Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
>Subject: Re: GDBIO is not Y2K compliant ?
>
>> Is there an additional parameter that I can specify in GDBIO to accept the
>> 4-digit year format ?
>
>I don't know of a way to do this, but I don't use this program much.  I
would use a
>System Macro to find and replace the problem years. Steve Carder

I do not do calculations with this Contacts database in GDB format, so it
is not critical.  Just that when I view the details, the year 00 is
reflected as 1900.

The source code for GDBIO is included with the program, but amending and
re-compiling it is beyond me.  Thanx.

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Hi,

   The easiest way should be:

    1st download the driver you need from times2tech.com

    2nd Install Transfile 200 (On your desktop/laptop) and connect to the Hp
200lx through the serial cable (turn off both of before plugging in
though!!).

    3rd Press the archive button (The first of the application buttons) on
the Hp 200lx (Both machines must be on at this point).

    4th Run Transfile 200 on your desktop. You can now control your hp 200lx
from your desktop.

     5th Transfer the driver to the c: drive on the Hp. Transfer a
config.sys file you have previuosly created to the c: drive. The config.sys
should include (device c:\spd31.sys) or the name of the driver you have just
transferred.

     6th Press control +alt +del on the Hp

     7th It should work now. Maybe you need to change the boot sequence to
make it boot from drive c: I'm not sure about that. Maybe somebody can add
this info.




Iqigo Martinez de Azagra
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Hola, sabeis alguna forma de sacar una e=F1e (una con un palo encima "~") en
un hp360lx
Gracias.

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My normal 700LX (original equip) reports (sadly) no bad time.

The timer indicates 10866 which supports the "benchmark" feature of this
test.

What is the hotkey to enable double speed? Ctrl-Alt-Plus ? I WISH.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teo Soon Bock ÝSMTP:teosb@POST1.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:29 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: DS = Double Speed or Dual Speed ?
>
> >Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 18:42:21 -0400
> >From:    Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
> >Subject: Re: DS = Double Speed or Dual Speed ?
>
> >> Which is the processor test on the menu?  I see Test All, Display,
> >> Keyboard, Wire serial port, Batteries, RAM, ROM, IR serial port, Timers
> and
> >> Plug-in RAM card.  None of them seems to be processor test.
> >
> >Sorry, the test I mean is the one labled "timers".  This looks at how
> fast
> the processor works.  >See if it gives you a normal result or one that is
> about twice normal. Steve Carder
>
> On my DS, it reports "time bad" , and towards the screen bottom, it says:-
> Timer: 21842  (limits: 10700 to 10916)
>
> Perhaps, above is an indication of DS.
>
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I WILL BUY ANY 200LX AVAILABLE...I AM AFTER TWO FOR MYSELF AND AM ABLE TO
OFFLOAD ANY OTHERS THAT BECOME AVAILABLE...
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At 11:40 AM 5/23/00 +0200, Klopper Donald wrote:
>My normal 700LX (original equip) reports (sadly) no bad time.
>
>The timer indicates 10866 which supports the "benchmark" feature of this
>test.
>
Perhaps your 700LX can have a hardware upgrade to DS by changing the crystal.

>What is the hotkey to enable double speed? Ctrl-Alt-Plus ? I WISH.
>
I think there is no hot key to enable DS.  The DS capability is in the
hardware.

In my case, running the file driver 2xpt.com enables it.

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Nice to know when I'm missed.

HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>, lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0>Thanks, Longden. =A0I didn't think about booting from a: drive.
> =A0 =A0>Your help is appreciated.
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> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 04:42:53 +0000
>=20
> No problemo Michael.
>=20
> Methinks you've been away too long <g>.
>=20
> I boot from my internal drive whenever I need my modem card in the slot, s=
o
> I have the DS driver in C. =A0To protect against losing the speed driver i=
n a
> disk crash on C, I have the following opening lines in my autoexec.bat:
>=20
>=20
> @echo off
> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
> md c:\utl
> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
> a:\utl\boot.com
> :nxt1
>=20
> .. and the rest is normal autoexec stuff.
>=20
> - Longden
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On 19 May 2000, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

> Fri, 19 May 2000 16:13:29 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>    Is anyone using www/lx with a freewwweb account?
>
>    Cheers...AJKind

I have used WWW/LX and POST/LX on my Freewwweb account. I am
always a bit behind on this list, but if you still need help,
let me know. I can send you my www.cfg file if that would help.

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On 23 May 2000, ADAM CLARKE <adam_clarke666@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I WILL BUY ANY 200LX AVAILABLE...I AM AFTER TWO FOR MYSELF AND AM ABLE TO
> OFFLOAD ANY OTHERS THAT BECOME AVAILABLE...

I don't think many people on this list want to "offload" their
200LXs. But, we would be interested in who is buying all these
200LXs from you.

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> Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 21:46:34 +0200
> From:    Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
> Subject: Re: GPS surveying with LXGPS
>
> Jon,
>
> thanks for your interesting comments. I would like to dig a
> bit into what you said hoping for more enlightenment on this
> fascinating subject.
>
> >...The Precedus is not DGPS-capable.
>
> According to the manual (page 53). the Precedus does have a
> port for "DGPS 1200B". Also, "DGPS" is printed onto the small
> rubber cover for the three ports (battery, DGPS and Serial
> I/O). To my knowledge the port can be used for real time
> differential correction via radio receiver.
>
I stand corrected. I was going by what II Morrow say on their web site.
If you want to record data for post-processing DGPS, I suggest you set up
to record DGPS 1200B signals, rather than the NMEA 183 which LX-GPS and
most other moving-map programs use.

> >... you need to know
> >the satellites used in obtaining a position, which probably will
differ
> >between mobile and base stations .... You won't be able to get
> >*accurate* post-processing data, no matter how *precise* the numbers
are,
> >because you won't know if you were using the same
> satellites...
>
> This is most interesting because it would invalidate any
> measurements based on post-processing differential correction,
> as most likely the field receiver will, for a good part of the
> fixes catch some satellites in the group different fom the
> ones the base station receives.
>
The data that is captured for DGPS is the specific satellite readings,
not the composite lat-long result. Your composite lat-long is weighted
based on the "best" signals, while a DGPS log will contain *all* the
timing signals. Thus the two sites will be able to use the best
satellites they have in common, rather than a (possibly substantially
different) local constellation. It's this need for the specific satellite
data that also limits the working radius of DGPS stations.

> The question here is what is "accurate" ? When I hired a
> Magellan special survey field unit for a day (purchase price
> around $6000) the recorded fixes were post processed with data
> taken at the base station with another unit equal to the one I
> had taken with me. I was assured (with SA still in place),
> that the error would be not greater than 1 meter. Is the error
> you quote covered by the range of 1 meter ? Otherwise, the
> topographers I contacted would have invested 12.000 Dollars
> into useless equipment. This seems unlikely to me. So what do
> you mean by "accurate" ?

Lat-long without DGPS is good to about 10 m, which is about the 2.5
decimal minutes. Post-processing, or real-time processing, correcting
each individual satellite signal can yield the 1 m. accuracy cited. BUT,
it requires adjustment of each individual satellite's timing signals. For
this reason, your proposed recording of lat-long data at two locations
will not provide reliable corrections. It assumes that in all cases every
satellite's signal at locations A & B will be used to provide the same
weighted input to the final location. A good way to see where the problem
arises is to go to a large building with clear space on at least two
sides. Then observe the GPS status display at several points close to the
building, but on different sides. You will generally see distinct
variations in both the satellites deemed "usable" and in their signal
strength as the building eclipses them. Again, I refer you to Joe and
Jack's page: http://joe.mehaffey.com/poordgps.htm

Jon

Jon Barrett
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On Tue, 23 May 2000 11:10:14 +0200 josemaria <josemaria@MAC.COM> writes:
> Hola, sabeis alguna forma de sacar una eqe (una con un palo encima
> "~") en un hp360lx

En esta lista no hay muchos usuarios del hp360lx o de las maquinas WINCE.
 De esos,
hay aun menos que se comunican en castellano.   Te recomiendo que mandes
ese mensaje
en ingles, para que sea mas probable obtener una respuesta.   O puedes
tratar unas de las
listas de WINCE.

Buena suerte.

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Jon,

Thanks for your excellent explanation: not the two lat/long
readings of a stationary and a moving GPS are compared but the
signals of individual satellites recorded by *both* stations.
Position is calculated from the corrected raw data.

Now I have much more respect for the Magellan survey receiver
I had used, as it has to spit out all those raw data, not just
position fixes.

I looked at the page on "Poor man's DGPS" you indicated
(http://joe.mehaffey.com/poordgps.htm) and found additional
information there. Too bad that my brilliant idea proved to
be scrap. I work hard to find others <g> !

Thanks again
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I think anyone who hasn't had that idea at some point is going to!

Jon

Jon Barrett
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> Jon,
>
> Thanks for your excellent explanation: not the two lat/long
> readings of a stationary and a moving GPS are compared but the
> signals of individual satellites recorded by *both* stations.
> Position is calculated from the corrected raw data.
>
> Now I have much more respect for the Magellan survey receiver
> I had used, as it has to spit out all those raw data, not just
> position fixes.
>
> I looked at the page on "Poor man's DGPS" you indicated
> (http://joe.mehaffey.com/poordgps.htm) and found additional
> information there. Too bad that my brilliant idea proved to
> be scrap. I work hard to find others <g> !
>
> Thanks again
> Winfried
>

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 13:48:59 -0400
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> On my DS, it reports "time bad" , and towards the screen bottom, it says:-
> Timer: 21842  (limits: 10700 to 10916)
>
> Perhaps, above is an indication of DS.

Yes, it is an indication of a DS upgrade.  Your result was twice the normal limits so your processor runs twice the normal speed.  The self-test doesn't know about DS upgrades, so it assumes that something is broken.

You will want to run a DS driver to make your serial port behave even if your screen is OK without the driver.

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 13:06:24 -0500
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> 1) I4ve read that flash memory is slow. What is exactly slow. Can
you use
 > for example Wordperfect 5.1 from a Flash card on a 1x Hp? www/lx?
Is the
> battery life significantly shorter with this card inserted? By
significantly
> shorter I mean half the normal battery life or less. I prefer the
internal
> upgrade, but flash cards are half the price per megabyte.

Flash memory is slower to write to than ram but it's not much slower
to read.  I've never found this to be a problem.

Some people have measured and found battery life reduced up to 15%
with some brands of flash cards.  I've never measured and I use a
Sandisk card, which I believe is supposed to be the best, but I've
never noticed a decrease in battery life.  If it's decreased it's
not enough to notice.

There is one other issue with power.  Some alkaline batteries
(Duracell for one) can't put out the larger current that's suddenly
needed when writing to the flash card and the write can fail and
corrupt the data in the card.  HP reccomends not using Duracell with
flash cards.  However, Duracell may have fixed this by now.  I
haven't heard anything about it for a while.  I use Walgreens
alkalines when I'm not using rechargables and I've never had a
problem with this.  I use NiCad rechargables most of the time.  This
problem doesnt exist if you use rechargable batteries.

> 2)I have another problem, I live in Europe and therefore I would
have to
> send my Palmtop to the USA. The cost becomes really high when you
add up
> everything ( Including the fact that the Euro is really low
compared to the
> Dollar!) Is internal memory upgraded in Europe?

My personal opinion is that flash is the better way to go if you
don't use a PCMCIA modem.  It costs less.  It's easy to replace or
upgrade.  It's extremely reliable and if your batteries go dead you
don't lose the flash contents.  It doesn't need power to retain it's
contents.

If you want to use a PCMCIA modem or network card, or probably any
other PCMCIA device other than a flash card, then adding ram is the
obvious best choice.

Another advantage of flash is that you can get a flash reader for
your pc, back up C: to the flash card and then easily copy the
contents of the flash card to the pc for a backup in just less than
a minute.  It makes backups trivial.  Also if you have a laptop you
don't even need a flash reader for your pc because all laptops have
them.  But the flash reader is pretty nice.

It seems that adding ram would make backups more problematic,
although I haven't used an increased ram palmtop and I don't know
what solutions are available.

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 13:34:26 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Does anyone on the list have any feedback on a Kodak DC280 camera?
I'm
> looking at buying one and would like some real-world opinions.
Does anyone
> here have one they want to part with?

I have a DC280 which I bought after carefully reading lots of
reviews and looking at pictures made by the various cameras.  I'm
very pleased with my choice.

The features are great.  It has far more options than I know how to
use at this point.  the pictures it takes are great.  I've found
that for most purposes the low resolution works fine for me.  The
high resolution is nice if the picture will be printed but on screen
the low res is as good as the high res.  Even the low res is higher
than most camera's high res.

It said on the box that it had a 20 meg compact flash card, but when
I opened it it was actually a 32 meg card.  That holds about 70 high
res pictures and about 160 low res, using the larger sizes of the
pictures I've taken so far.  (450k is about the max for high res and
200k is about the max for low res.  averages are more like 350k and
150k)

One problem that the reviews pointed out turns out not to be true,
even though you'll see it in most reviews.  They say that it has
very low battery life.  The problem is that using alkaline batteries
they can't really handle writing to the flash.  After taking about
10 or 15 pictures you get a low battery indication and can't take
any more.  However, if you turn the camera off and on again you can
take another 5 or 6 pictures.  You can do that as much as you like.
I don't think the reviewers realized what was going on.

If you use NiMH batteries that problem doesn't exist and I've been
getting about 60 pictures on a set of 4.  The camera comes with NiMH
but also with alkaline so you can use the camera right away without
waiting till the NiMH is charged.  I don't think alkalines are worth
using in it.

It comes with a built in serial port and a built in USB port but I
haven't used either one.  I already had a flash card reader on my PC
and I just use that to transfer pictures to my PC.  The flash card
uses a normal format and the pictures are .jpg's.  I didn't even
bother to install their software on my PC since I don't need it to
transfer and I already have Corel Draw and Photopaint and a couple
of other image programs.

I checked the Kodak website right after I got it and I found a flash
upgrade, which I installed.  But even that can be done by just
copying it to the card if you don't want to connect to the pc.

Barry

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>>> I agree, that mass-consumption connected
>>> computers such as PDAs and phones are
>>> just challenge waiting to be taken by the virus writers.

Given that all the newer PDAs synch with the PC (or Mac) something
like the "I love you" virus could be used to infect the
synchronization software and then the PDA.  And maybe later, the PC.

Their options are increasing.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 13:19:43 -0700
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- I have a sticker with name/address/email address on the back of my LX
- I use Buddy to scramble my display and show a "topcard" if TAB is pressed/bad
password is entered. This topcard shows I will give a reward for the machine's
return.
- I use only one password protected database and hide it with a ".exe"
extension.

Philippe

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From: Suresh Nirody <esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:27 AM
Subject: Loss mitigation strategies..


Folks,
What strategies do you use to increase the chances that your palmtop
would be returned to you if you lost it and it was found by a
stranger?? Besides having my contact info and 'REWARD FOR RETURN' on my
topcard I also have a weekly macro in my apptbook that will start Memo
and open a text file with the same info... Recently I also signed up
with www.returnme.com Recd some fairly solid stickers to put on items.
These have a unique ID number and instrux for the finder to go to their
web site or call a 800 number to report finding the item. Then they
will do a FedEx pickup and get you your item back. At this point you
pay the FedEx cost, pay them a small fee, and pay the finder his/her
reward. Costs a nominal fee to get the stickers, seems worthwhile if it
increases the possibility of getting my 200lx back even a little...
What do you think?? Obviously these strategies will only work if a
relatively honest person finds your stuff..
Suresh

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 17:50:34 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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> SC is a DOS device driver that makes an encrypted file look like another

Oops.. In my description of Secure Device yesterday I kept using "SC" as
shorthand instead of "SD".  I hope I didn't confuse anyone into thinking
I was talking about Software Carousel (another Must Have program).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 18:50:05 -0400
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I have to admit, I haven't done anything - yet!
Apathy, over confidence, whatever.

This shows me that it's time to do something.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 23:49:39 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Lat-long without DGPS is good to about 10 m, which is about the 2.5
> decimal minutes. Post-processing, or real-time processing, correcting
> each individual satellite signal can yield the 1 m. accuracy cited. BUT,

I guess I'm a bit confused or wondering ..... (G)   Since the topic
deals with surveying...

I don't think I would like 1 m (presume METER) accuracy if my lot were
being surveyed by my neighbor or even his surveyor!  That could result
in my lot being 3 feet narrower than I expect, no?

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              esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Folks,
After getting the HPLX list in digest form I read it using LXDR set up
as an external program in WWW/Lx. All the e-mails with header Content-Tran=
sfer-Encoding
values of 7bit, 8bit, etc. look fine, but those of type 'Quoted
Printable' are almost impossible to read since they have =3D20D between
every word. Since these are the minority I usually skip them unless it
looks like an interesting subject. Funnily enough my posts fall into
the illegible category. Is this a bug in LXDR, and how come this value
differs in different posts? If I read the posts directly in WWW/Lx they
do NOT have this wierdness...
Suresh

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 17:11:43 -0700
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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              (#2000-183)
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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, you wrote at 01:06 PM 05/23/2000 -0500
>There is one other issue with power.  Some alkaline batteries
>(Duracell for one) can't put out the larger current that's suddenly
>needed when writing to the flash card and the write can fail and
>corrupt the data in the card.  HP reccomends not using Duracell with
>flash cards.  However, Duracell may have fixed this by now.  I
>haven't heard anything about it for a while.  I use Walgreens

Not a contradiction, just a data point.  I use Duracell Ultras exclusively
in my 200LX with a Sandisk compact flash.  Works great, battery life is
fine, and I've never had a write fail other than the time I forgot I had
popped the card out...

        C.

--
"I think tradition is what endures.  I'm partial to the erotic like having
a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river.  The
river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
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                while judging on "Iron Chef"

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 22:06:13 -0400
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              Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
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Can you send me an example file where this happens?

thx
rick

---------------

Folks,
After getting the HPLX list in digest form I read it using LXDR set up
as an external program in WWW/Lx. All the e-mails with header
Content-Transfer-Encoding
values of 7bit, 8bit, etc. look fine, but those of type 'Quoted
Printable' are almost impossible to read since they have =20D between
every word. Since these are the minority I usually skip them unless it
looks like an interesting subject. Funnily enough my posts fall into
the illegible category. Is this a bug in LXDR, and how come this value
differs in different posts? If I read the posts directly in WWW/Lx they
do NOT have this wierdness...
Suresh

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Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 20:25:02 -0700
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Howdy,

I just bought a digital camera that uses a compact flash (HP C200). I
would be willing to trade a 200lx serial cable for a compact flash to
pcmcia adapter. We each pay postage one way.

Any takers?

I would prefer US people. The postage would be cheaper.

Thanks!

David Peterson
Albany, Oregon

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@ricochet.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 21 May 2000 to 22 May 2000 - Special
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> Not a contradiction, just a data point.  I use Duracell Ultras
exclusively
> in my 200LX with a Sandisk compact flash.  Works great, battery
life is
> fine, and I've never had a write fail other than the time I forgot
I had
> popped the card out...

I'm glad you haven't had a problem.  They might have changed their
batteries now in response to what was a pretty serious problem.

I don't think there was any question of battery life or of Duracells
being inferior or anything like that.  My impression of what was
said was just that their chemistry was such that it couldn't handle
sudden large loads as well as other alkaline batteries.  I don't
think that was a real requirement for alkaline batteries before
flash came along.

By the way, alkaline batteries in general don't handle large short
sudden loads as well as other types of batteries.  I've found that I
have problems with alkalines in my digital camera when it writes to
the flash card.  This was with Energizers and I tested it with
Walgreens batteries, too, and had the same problem.  The camera
thinks the batteries are low after a few pictures.  If I turn it off
and on again I can take a few more pictures.  I can keep doing this
as long as I like.  But with NiMH or Nicad this never happens.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 16:28:06 +1200
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              Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Has anyone on the list tried to use RAM (rechargeable alkaline batteries) -
I initially thought it sounded like a great idea because the do not have the
memory effect of NiCad's and are rated at 1500mAh. Has anyone tried or does
the same problem apply as for Duracell's? (I have previously used Duracell's
with my 80Mb DoubleFlash card without much of a problem.

Regards,
Stefan

> From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@ricochet.net>
> To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
> <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 21 May 2000 to 22 May 2000 - Special
> issue (#2000-183)
>
>
> > Not a contradiction, just a data point.  I use Duracell Ultras
> exclusively
> > in my 200LX with a Sandisk compact flash.  Works great, battery
> life is
> > fine, and I've never had a write fail other than the time I forgot
> I had
> > popped the card out...
>
> I'm glad you haven't had a problem.  They might have changed their
> batteries now in response to what was a pretty serious problem.
>
> I don't think there was any question of battery life or of Duracells
> being inferior or anything like that.  My impression of what was
> said was just that their chemistry was such that it couldn't handle
> sudden large loads as well as other alkaline batteries.  I don't
> think that was a real requirement for alkaline batteries before
> flash came along.
>
> By the way, alkaline batteries in general don't handle large short
> sudden loads as well as other types of batteries.  I've found that I
> have problems with alkalines in my digital camera when it writes to
> the flash card.  This was with Energizers and I tested it with
> Walgreens batteries, too, and had the same problem.  The camera
> thinks the batteries are low after a few pictures.  If I turn it off
> and on again I can take a few more pictures.  I can keep doing this
> as long as I like.  But with NiMH or Nicad this never happens.
>
> Barry
>
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>
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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 01:28:03 -0400
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Hello, all

I read about the foldable keyboard for the palm pilot units and even
read the list about future keyboards possible for the 200lx....
my question is is there a way to get this foladable keyboard to work on =
the 200?
i didnt think much of it until i tried one.....so cool!
almost made me want to switch to palm....NOT

dave

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 08:32:02 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

this is my strategy:

I keep only one file with very sensitive data on my CF card. It contains
passwords, PINs and some more data which noone else should ever see.
I encrypt it with PGP and have a batch file that calls automatically
PGP for decrypting (PGP asks me for the pass phrase, of course), launches
PE with the decrypted file, and when I leave PE again, it encrypts the
file again and PGP wipes out the decrypted file contents from the flash
card.
Very confortable for me.

I also make a backup of my C: drive on the cf card regulary (abt. every
other day).

On the C: drive and on the cf card I have a file in each root directory
named "__owner.txt" (the leading __ makes it appear at the beginning of
a DIR listing directly behind the directories), which contains my name,
address and telephone number.

When I have to leave the LX somewhere where it could be stolen or lost
(e.g. in the car, in a hotel...) I pull out the CF card and take it
with me in the portemonnaie.
At home I have a backup LX with the same C: drive size (6MB). So when I
loose my main LX, it's not a big catastrophe, only a financial loss,
but no data loss.

The only trouble i have with this setup it that I use Software
Carousel, and I think it would be not a good idea to switch between SC
areas during the PGP encrypted file is opnend, because in this case it
is swapped into the SC file without encryption and if someone uses a
disk editor to search for the word 'password' on my disk, he would find
the whole file!

Maybe I should setup something that shows the contents of __owner.txt
after a predefined time. Any ideas about that? Most of Buddy's features
don't work properly on my German HPLX, so I don't want to use Buddy.

GTX
daniel

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HI!
I'm gonna live the palmtop world, and it's time to sell
all the stuff.
I've got a Hp200lx computer set for sale; I'd like to sell the
whole bunch preferably in Europe, but I accept different offers
anyway:

* 1 hp200lx 2mb single speed in good working condition
* 1 hp200lx 8mb double speed; this unit works flawlessly,
    but has a battery drain issue that should be fixed.
* 2 manual sets
* 1 kodak dc 20 digital camera suitable for using with the
    the hp200lx with flash, 2 serial cables, 2 lith. cells
    and all the accessories (sw, manuals, and so on)
* 2 hp serial cable
* 1 db9/db25 serial cable adapter
* 1 parallel printer cable (the one that works!)
* 1 PCMCIA Ethernet Accton card (NEW Item)
* 1 14.4k Megahertz Modem
* 1 HP AC/DC adapter
* 2 NIMH "GP batteries" cells (1350)
* 1 little light
* lot of original sw: wwwlx,voltlx,acefax and other ones

all the set goes for 1300DM (about 600USD).
You can contact me at gaioni@cs.unibo.it.

Bye
Raf

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> I boot from my internal drive whenever I need my modem card in the slot, so
> I have the DS driver in C.  To protect against losing the speed driver in a
> disk crash on C, I have the following opening lines in my autoexec.bat:

> @echo off
> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
> md c:\utl
> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
> a:\utl\boot.com
> :nxt1

> .. and the rest is normal autoexec stuff.

> - Longden

Longden, this is a fine little recover-strategie, I used it immediately,
thanks!

Axel

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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: recover drivers for HP200
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hello Longden,

On 24 May 2000, at 5:09, Longden wrote:

>
> @echo off
> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
> md c:\utl
> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
> a:\utl\boot.com
> :nxt1

the idea is good, and it will help you if you only loose spd31, but if
you have a disk crash on C: it will mostly also delete this nice part
of your autoexec.bat, so you have to start the copy process manually.
You could place a copy of your autoexec.bat in any Backup directory on
the flash card and then copy it from there to drive c: and then it
would work again. But this copy command you have to type blind.
AFAIK the recovery process cannot be fully automatic with a entry in
autoexec.bat on drive c:
Any other ideas? I am ready to learn more...

Werner





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I forgot to mention that the boot.com mentioned at the bottom is just any
generic boot utility.  There's a 21 byte version in SUPER.

And of course, the variations are endless ... you don't need to make the c:\utl
directory if you just store spd31.sys in the root.

- Longden





Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE> on 05/24/2000 02:19:04 AM

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> I boot from my internal drive whenever I need my modem card in the slot, so
> I have the DS driver in C.  To protect against losing the speed driver in a
> disk crash on C, I have the following opening lines in my autoexec.bat:

> @echo off
> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
> md c:\utl
> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
> a:\utl\boot.com
> :nxt1

> .. and the rest is normal autoexec stuff.

> - Longden

Longden, this is a fine little recover-strategie, I used it immediately,
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 24 May 2000 09:25:19 -0400 (EDT)

08h54m40s ago ...
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Stefan Lombaard wrote:

> Has anyone on the list tried to use RAM (rechargeable alkaline batteries=
) -
> I initially thought it sounded like a great idea because the do not =
have the
> memory effect of NiCad's and are rated at 1500mAh. Has anyone tried or =
does
> the same problem apply as for Duracell's? (I have previously used =
Duracell's
> with my 80Mb DoubleFlash card without much of a problem.

Probably someone has.  There are several potential problems with the
idea, though.

 1> The internal charger is unsuitable for these.  They must be removed
and recharged in their own charger.
 2> They can only be charged about 25 times (when I last checked) vs
hundreds of times for NiCd or NiMH.
 3> You'll need to open the battery door on the LX MUCH more
frequently.  This is often the first part of the LX to break.
 4> The 1500 mAHr rating is no better than current NiMH cells, and
decreases with each charge cycle.
 5> Maybe no memory effect, but after the same small number of charge
cycles, NiCd or NiMH don't show memory either.

I've used Duracell Ultra batteries in my 2X-8MB with 220M flash card
and had no problems.  Problems when used in an Epson 850 digital
camera...


HTH

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 21:45:28 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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The latest Digest file (#2000-185) appears to be empty.
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/digest/0030.html

Can the List Moderator please regenerate it.

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 06:49:11 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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This is the autoexec.bat on the flash card ... sorry if I wasn't clear.

When the spd31.sys file on the C drive gets hosed, this just merely automates
the process of restoring it (from the flash card) back to the proper location on
drive C.

If the C drive crashed, resulting in a reinitialization of the drive (back to
its original generic contents), then all functions will be working (except the
display will be unreadable) ... a subsequent reboot using the flash card with
this header should remedy that.

You are correct that the recovery process cannot depend on the autoexec.bat on
drive C.

- Longden





"Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET> on 05/24/2000 02:28:20 AM

Please respond to furlan@gmx.net

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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Re: recover drivers for HP200




hello Longden,

On 24 May 2000, at 5:09, Longden wrote:

>
> @echo off
> if exist c:\utl\spd31.sys goto nxt1
> md c:\utl
> copy a:\utl\spd31.sys c:\utl
> a:\utl\boot.com
> :nxt1

the idea is good, and it will help you if you only loose spd31, but if
you have a disk crash on C: it will mostly also delete this nice part
of your autoexec.bat, so you have to start the copy process manually.
You could place a copy of your autoexec.bat in any Backup directory on
the flash card and then copy it from there to drive c: and then it
would work again. But this copy command you have to type blind.
AFAIK the recovery process cannot be fully automatic with a entry in
autoexec.bat on drive c:
Any other ideas? I am ready to learn more...

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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Jon Barrett"
<jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: GPS surveying with LXGPS


> > Lat-long without DGPS is good to about 10 m, which is about the 2.5
> > decimal minutes. Post-processing, or real-time processing, correcting
> > each individual satellite signal can yield the 1 m. accuracy cited.
BUT,
>
> I guess I'm a bit confused or wondering ..... (G)   Since the topic
> deals with surveying...
>
> I don't think I would like 1 m (presume METER) accuracy if my lot were
> being surveyed by my neighbor or even his surveyor!  That could result
> in my lot being 3 feet narrower than I expect, no?
>
Winfried had been wondering about boosting the accuracy of his GPS
through faking differential.

The professional surveyor will be using real DGPS, RTK (Real-time
kinematic - uses the carrier frequency, not the GPS signal to achieve
more precise time measurements) and other techniques to achieve cm or
sub-cm accuracy. That's what you pay him for. As for your neighbor - just
use the same (sloppy) technique he did to show that the 1 m. error is in
*your* favor!

Jon

Jon Barrett
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Mark Willis stated that:

>>I"m rather partial to SemWare's QEdit, myself.

"days I am forced to use it."?  Hmmm <G>


Qedit, eh?  It's worth a try, at least.  Well, my wife has discovered
the 200LX and is using it part of the time, at least.  So I'm trying to
expand the usability of the 95LX so I'm not entirely palmtopless while
my wife is using the 200LX...<g>



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David,

I see that you're using NetTamer 1.11.2 and wondered if you've used prior
versions and can comment on changes/improvements over 1.08pt which I'm still
using.

Does 1.11 allow combined notes and attachments on one email?

- Longden





David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> on 05/23/2000 09:49:35 PM

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 10:54:41 +0500
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On 2000-05-21 Russ said:
   >The Tiny Editor (10k T.EXE) is good and small; I don't know if it'll
   >work on the 95LX though.  It's on SUPER so you can try it and see.
   >cheers... Russ

Thanks...I'll try it out.



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   >Well, in my not so humble opinion, Freyja is the best editor for
   >the 95LX. Granted, it is based on EMACS, which leads to a set of
   >commands and controls that you either love or hate, but it has
   >support for menus like any built-in 95LX program (so you don't
   >*have* to learn EMACS commands unless you find it too slow to use
   >the menu all the time). The good things about Freyja are that it is
   >System Manager compliant - you don't have to be in DOS to run it
   >and can run it alongside other applications (although Freyja tends
   >to eat a fair amount of memory, but that's configurable), it
   >supports softfonts, right down to a tiny 80x25 font that is pretty
   >much unreadable. The 64x20 (or something like that) font is pretty
   >good though, and a good comprimise. Other than that, Freyja also
   >supports some alignment commands (at least centering of text) and
   >cut and paste (EMACS style)

   I will have to try and download it.  I am looking for a good text
   editor, and I don't mind learning a new set of commands if the text
   editor is powerful and flexible enough.  I will try and download
   Freyja and use it.

   >Of course, Freyja might be overkill if all you want to do is edit
   >small text files and if you're generally happy with Memo except for
   >the EOL display (which I didn't like either - I wonder why HP left
   >it in?). Buddy for the 95LX has a feature that removes the EOL
   >display, so that's a solution too.

Now why didn't I think of that?  I've downloaded 95buddy, and it works
great!  Now Memo is actually quite usable.  Thanks for this information!



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> ... but those of type 'Quoted Printable' are almost
> impossible to read since they have =3D20D between every word.

I get this too.

> Is this a bug in LXDR, and how come this value differs in
> different posts? If I read the posts directly in WWW/Lx they
> do NOT have this wierdness...

I don't think it's LXDR.  I get it even when reading the
digest in Post.  I have to save it to a file and then filter
it through a sed script that fixes it.

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> I just bought a digital camera that uses a compact flash (HP
C200). I
> would be willing to trade a 200lx serial cable for a compact flash
to
> pcmcia adapter. We each pay postage one way.

Both Office Depot and Best Buy sell these adapters in their stores.
I think they're $12 but I'm not sure.

Barry

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On Wed, 24 May 2000 10:28:20 +0100 "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
writes:
> the idea is good, and it will help you if you only loose spd31, but
> if you have a disk crash on C: it will mostly also delete this nice
> part of your autoexec.bat, so you have to start the copy process
> manually.
> You could place a copy of your autoexec.bat in any Backup directory
> on the flash card and then copy it from there to drive c: and then it
> would work again. But this copy command you have to type blind.

The first place the palmtop looks for the autoexec.bat file is in the
root
directory of A:  , then on C: , and last of all on D:
So if you put it on the root of A: you would be set.

Domingo

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<<my question is is there a way to get this foladable keyboard to work on
the 200?
i didnt think much of it until i tried one.....so cool!>>

We have had contact with the Outside In people who make the keyboard over
the past year.  Currently they are quite backordered as they are readying
custom versions for each of the Windows CE Pocket PCs.

It may be possible that we can work out something, but not until next year,
so I wouldn't bet on it. I think the keyboard is neat. However, one downside
is that it has to be on a hard surface, not on your lap.

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Rick,

please, the program I bought for 4.95 (remember the 5 Dollar
bill in a letter) works very nicely. The messages can be
individually stored in separate files.

However, what I wanted to do was to include them into normal
POST/LX folders together with other messages I received as
separate messages not via digest.

Can you give me an idea how to accomplish this ?

Thank you very much
Winfried

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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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>Now that's a nasty way to catch a VIRUS...or so I've heard ;-)

>Cheers...AJKind

hi honourable list owner ;)

a fluffless gloom&doom?  :))

NEW AGE VIRUS : PC checks the compatibility of the star signs of all the
peripherals; optimises the Feng Shui of the icons and colours on your Active
Desktop window; and analyses your personality from your choice of fonts.

GREEN VIRUS : Refuses print command, to save paper.

POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS : Renames key functions on your PC (e.g.
motherboard becomes homemaker function area).

STAR TREK VIRUS : Invades your system in places where no virus has gone
before.

cheers
Nathalie

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 13:03:44 -0700
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I need a CF card.... Here's what I have to trade:

X-Jack 14.4 PC Card Modem
56.6 PC Card Modem

If interested, drop me an email with what kind of card you have.

P.S. Leo Sheppard.... I need your address so I can send your modem back to
you, I lost it (the address that is)  :-(

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 21:06:12 -0400
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I just won my 920th of 921 FC games.  I found FC game 164 more difficult
than average; I had to restart many times before solving it.

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 17:38:41 +1200
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Is there any possibility of a larger replacement LCD screen becoming
available for the HP200LX?

If the entire area of the inside top cover was used (excluding approx 5mm
around edges), the screen area would be approximately 150mm wide x 60mm high.
Preserving the same aspect ratio the viewable area would be about 87.6 sq
cm; over 50% greater than the current area of about 56.87 sq cm (based on
screen size of 121mm x 47mm).

While a little redesign would be required to show the function key
positions, as they are also shown on the keyboard the loss of the F key
labels would be a trade off I would easily live with for the greater
legibility of the screen.

I would be much more interested in larger screen (with or without
backlighting) than backlighting the current sized screen.

I look forward to any comments

Craig Honey

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 02:43:43 -0400
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I decided to unload my backup unit. Since Hal is coming up with 4K units I
figure
I can always find a 200LX if I need one.


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=341414105

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 10:34:51 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Michelle,

> I would be much more interested in larger screen (with or without
> backlighting) than backlighting the current sized screen.

Me too!

> I look forward to any comments

Great idea!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 07:07:27 EDT
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 Hi, LX'r

I have question: who have had to adjust the screen size while running the HP
connectivity on a laptop in general  how is this working ??
I have a Toshiba Protegee 3025 while I'm running the connectivity pack on
this laptop the screen shows only about 35% of the max size. Does anyone have
a solution for this. Toshiba means its a software problem !!

regards, Michael

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 07:08:46 EDT
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is anybody interested to buy a brandnew HP 690, 32 meg ???

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 13:19:55 +0000
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Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I connect a Nokia 8210 to my hp200lx x2 speed with www/lx via irda.
> If I use the 38400 option then I am able to connect and dl/ul stuff.
> I do get a lot of "baud rate to high?" messages, especialy if i use
> telnet.

I also use a Nokia 8210 with a double speed 200LX. To find out
the right baud rate, I did some tests with IR.EXE in server
mode from D&A.

38400 sometimes reports "interrupt overrun errors". 19200 never.
Hence I switched my IR speed in WWW/LX from 38400 to 19200.

I just played again with IR SERVER and baud rates with a strange
result: If I set the baud rate to 38400 and issue at&v, I get:

at&v

ACTIVE PROFILE:
E1 Q0 V1 X5 &C1 &D2 &Q0 &S1 &Y0
S00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S07:060 S08:002
S10:100 S12:050 S14:010 S21:112 S22:016 S25:000 S27:000 S34:002
S35:007 S38:000 S39:000 S40:000 S41:001 S42:061 S43:061 S44:048
S45:006 S46:000 S47:000 S48:000

OK

If I reduce the baud rate to 19200 or 9600, I only get the last
line:

at&v

S45:006 S46:000 S47:000 S48:000

OK


This behavior is always reproducible. Either the 8210 or IR
seems to "omit" the first 5 lines. My 8210 software version is
5.11 (Find out with *#0000#)

> But if i lower my baud rate to 19200 (or 9600) then I have problems =
with the
> connection. Especialy DNS problems (!?).

I have no problems with 19200, but sometimes I cannot connect
with 9600, same as you. However I didn't try often.


> With Peichls Ring.com I get EMI errors/sec=3D1

This is almost impossible. I get about 140 EMI errors/sec. Are
you sure, you run RING from DOS and not from SysMgr with serial
power off?

Stefan

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 13:10:09 +0100
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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hi Nathalie,

On 25 May 2000, at 5:10, Nathalie wrote:

> NEW AGE VIRUS : PC checks the compatibility of the star signs of all the
> peripherals; optimises the Feng Shui of the icons and colours on your
> Active Desktop window; and analyses your personality from your choice of
> fonts.

thats cool...
where can I get it?
maybe I have to attend a new age astro seminar...

with a ;-)
Werner


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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 06:39:46 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I run Cpack on my NT at 1024x768, my Omnibook 800CT at 800x600 (SVGA) and
Omnibook 430 at 640x480 (VGA) all with no clipping of the screen.

I start Cpack by running app200.bat (if that's of any use).

- Longden





Michael Berrier <Michberr01@AOL.COM> on 05/25/2000 04:07:27 AM

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Subject:  HP Connectivity - screen size on laptop




 Hi, LX'r

I have question: who have had to adjust the screen size while running the HP
connectivity on a laptop in general  how is this working ??
I have a Toshiba Protegee 3025 while I'm running the connectivity pack on
this laptop the screen shows only about 35% of the max size. Does anyone have
a solution for this. Toshiba means its a software problem !!

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 09:54:28 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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From: Michael Berrier <Michberr01@AOL.COM>
Subject: HP Connectivity - screen size on laptop
Date: 25 May 2000 04:08:10 -0700

>
> Hi, LX'r
>
> I have question: who have had to adjust the screen size while running
the HP
> connectivity on a laptop in general  how is this working ??
> I have a Toshiba Protegee 3025 while I'm running the connectivity pack
on
> this laptop the screen shows only about 35% of the max size. Does
anyone have
> a solution for this. Toshiba means its a software problem !!
>
> regards, Michael
>
Since the Connecivity Pack runs in DOS graphics mode, it will only run at
640 x 480 resolution. In general LCD screens map the logical pixels being
displayed on a one-to-one basis with physical pixels, thus you have a lot
of unused real estate on your laptop. You will also see this if you open
a command prompt full-screen from Windows or on starting Windows unless
Toshiba designed a custom splash screen. It is possible to make a video
driver, or display BIOS, resample this to fill the physical screen, but
results tend to be crude and blocky. Omnibooks can be configured to do
this. It sounds like Toshiba's designers decided it wasn't worth the
trouble.

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw!
500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP
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Thu, 25 May 2000 10:09:58 -0500 (EST)

my 100LX has developed a severe "vertical line" problem. Pressure on
the left side of the screen corrects the problem. I have removed the
screen bezel & adjusted/tightened the torx-6 screws, but it doesn't
help. Any other suggestions?

I do have a spare 100LX with a good screen I could drop my upgraded
motherboard into if need be...perhaps that is the best way to go?

aTdHvAaNnKcSe...AJKind


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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 08:09:47 -0700
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Hey all,

I've been trying to use the Ol2lx software I got off the SUPER site to
put my outlook calendar in HP appt. book format.  The translation goes
fine, I get it into the HP, it opens up fine, but then when I try to go
to a different date or view, it crashes the HP.  Any ideas?  I'd really
like to stay with my 200lx, but if I can't get my calendar  into it, I
may have to migrate to a later PDA.   Thanks!  -Carla-

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 10:34:54 -0500
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<<<<Has anyone on the list tried to use RAM (rechargeable alkaline
batteries) -
I initially thought it sounded like a great idea because the do not
have the
memory effect of NiCad's and are rated at 1500mAh. Has anyone tried
or does
the same problem apply as for Duracell's? (I have previously used
Duracell's
with my 80Mb DoubleFlash card without much of a problem.>>>>

It sounds like a number of people have used Duracells without
problems so they've probably changed their chemistry to handle flash
cards.  A few years ago a lot of people had problems but they didn't
really know Duracells were the cause until HP announced it.  So it
was a real problem.  I guess it isn't now.

I've tried the rechargable alkaline batteries without much success.
I'm not good at remembering to recharge before they get very low,
which is what you're supposed to do with them to get good use from
them.  Actually I thought the rechargable alkalines were rated at
2500mAH or 2700mAH or some such.

Other people have commented that if you don't let them discharge
much before charging them they get good life from them.  But it
seems to me that that does away with the benefit of the the higher
mAH rating.

Radio Shack's latest high capacity Nicads have a 1,000 mAH rating.
I've used them for years, and misused them badly by overcharging and
charging before they need it and I've never had any problems with
them.  My oldest ones are probably 7 or 8 years old.  Maybe older.
A few of my oldest C cells are starting to get stained and I'm
getting nervous about them, but they still work just fine.  I've
used those heavily year after year.  I guess I'll replace the C
cells soon.  None of my AA cells have ever had any problem at all.
Even though these batteries are initially pretty expensive, in the
long run I think they're about the cheapest you can buy.

I did buy a charger with a conditioner about a year ago, but I can't
really tell that it matters.  Previously I've always used one of
their chargers with just a timer and charged them twice since the
timer wasn't set with HiCaps in mind.  That gave me an overcharge of
about 25% every time I charged them, with no appearant bad effect.

I've recently bought some Kodak NiMH rechargables rated at 1600
hours and 1000 charges as spares for my camera, and I've been
experimenting with them in the palmtop.  I've always heard that they
self discharge really fast but that doesn't seem to be a serious
problem so far.  But I haven't used them enough to know yet and the
batteries may be better when theyre brand new.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 10:34:05 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Since Hal is coming up with 4K units I
figure I can always find a 200LX if I need one.>>

Actually they are 2 meg units that we can upgrade to 4,5,6,32,64 and
hopefully sometime soon 96.

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 10:39:34 -0500
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<<<<I read about the foldable keyboard for the palm pilot units and
even
read the list about future keyboards possible for the 200lx....
my question is is there a way to get this foladable keyboard to work
on =
the 200?
i didnt think much of it until i tried one.....so cool!
almost made me want to switch to palm....NOT>>>>>

I have the foldable Go!type keyboard for my Palm.  I'm not sure this
is the one you mean.  There are a couple of models.  This is the
original, I believe.

I've read on the Palm newsgroups that the connector, even though
it's strange looking, is actually an RS232.  If that's true it
probably could be connected to the serial port of the 200lx and a
driver could be written to make it work.

This is not a keyboard you'd want to use all day.  It's much easier
than entering data with a stylus but it's still not that great.
It's barely big enough for touch typing.  But it is big enough.  I
haven't used it much because I really never enter much data at a
time in my Palm.

Some of the other keyboards for the Palm might be better.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 18:06:53 +0200
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Hi QUICK/LXers,

Trying to save keystrokes for synchronizing the QUICK word
buffer with the dictionary file, I introduced the following
macro in Quick.dat:

@q=Qsync ?=#c800#2166#2064qsync#1c0dexit#1c0d

It runs very well until after executing the qsync command. The
rest of the macro (exit#1c0d) is not executed. It seems that
the word "exit" comes too fast while qsync is still being
executed. How can I make the program wait one second to allow
the qsync command to finish before typing "exit" ? Or does the
interruption not have anything to do with execution speed ?

Thanks in advance
Winfried

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On Thu, 25 May 2000 10:39:34 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> I have the foldable Go!type keyboard for my Palm.  I'm not sure this
> is the one you mean.  There are a couple of models.  This is the
> original, I believe.

Interesting.  I have never seen a foldable Go!Type keyboard.   The
original is a non-foldable type with a flip-cover.   The keyboard
the other fellow was refering to is made of metal, folds almost as
small as a palm (in 4 parts) and opens up to a full size keyboard.
I have forgotten the original maker's name (tri something), but now
it is being distributed under the palm name.

I could ask you to describe your keyboard in more detail, but if you
(or anyone else) happens to have a direct URL to this product, it
would be even better.   I have not seen it in the Go!type site before.

Domingo

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 12:01:19 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: <ddvteach@juno.com>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; <barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 May 2000 to 24 May 2000 (#2000-186)


> On Thu, 25 May 2000 10:39:34 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> > I have the foldable Go!type keyboard for my Palm.  I'm not sure
this
> > is the one you mean.  There are a couple of models.  This is the
> > original, I believe.
>
> Interesting.  I have never seen a foldable Go!Type keyboard.   The
> original is a non-foldable type with a flip-cover.   The keyboard
> the other fellow was refering to is made of metal, folds almost as
> small as a palm (in 4 parts) and opens up to a full size keyboard.
> I have forgotten the original maker's name (tri something), but
now
> it is being distributed under the palm name.
>
> I could ask you to describe your keyboard in more detail, but if
you
> (or anyone else) happens to have a direct URL to this product, it
> would be even better.   I have not seen it in the Go!type site
before.

Sorry.  You're correct.  I was thinking of the flip back cover as
foldable.  But now I realize you meant that it folds left to right.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 15:21:26 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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:¬)

By 4K, I meant the quantity of 4000 units not RAM. Isn't that how many you
said you were getting from the railroad?

I think I had a Vic-20 with 4K of memory once.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
>Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:34 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ 32MB DS 200LX
>
>
><<Since Hal is coming up with 4K units I
>figure I can always find a 200LX if I need one.>>
>
>Actually they are 2 meg units that we can upgrade to 4,5,6,32,64 and
>hopefully sometime soon 96.
>
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Ed Padin wrote:
> I figure I can always find a 200LX if I need one.

Always ??  (How soon we forget...)

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 18:49:15 -0400
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Most Toshiba notebooks have a method to stretch DOS screens to full screen.
This can be found in the CMOS/BIOS settings, accessed on startup, or in the
Windows Control Panel under Display, Hardware, or Toshiba settings.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
Michael Berrier
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:07 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: HP Connectivity - screen size on laptop


 Hi, LX'r

I have question: who have had to adjust the screen size while running the HP
connectivity on a laptop in general  how is this working ??
I have a Toshiba Protegee 3025 while I'm running the connectivity pack on
this laptop the screen shows only about 35% of the max size. Does anyone
have
a solution for this. Toshiba means its a software problem !!

regards, Michael

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 19:03:31 -0400
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I have a spare unit that's near new and I'm holding it for 32mb and
backlighting!

I don't have the same confidence in being able to find a 200LX if I need
one.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
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-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ed
Padin
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:44 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: FA: 32MB DS 200LX


I decided to unload my backup unit. Since Hal is coming up with 4K units I
figure
I can always find a 200LX if I need one.

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 20:48:09 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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>We have had contact with the Outside In people who make the keyboard over
>the past year.  Currently they are quite backordered as they are readying
>custom versions for each of the Windows CE Pocket PCs.

It would be great if it could be obtained with a numeric keypad on the right...

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>Interesting.  I have never seen a foldable Go!Type keyboard.   The
>original is a non-foldable type with a flip-cover.   The keyboard
>the other fellow was refering to is made of metal, folds almost as
>small as a palm (in 4 parts) and opens up to a full size keyboard.

Try this:
http://www.mplanet.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=3715&pf%5Fid=MP950185&listing=1

>I have forgotten the original maker's name (tri something), but now
>it is being distributed under the palm name.

Also Targus, and Handspring


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Michael Berrier wrote:
>
> is anybody interested to buy a brandnew HP 690, 32 meg ???
>
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Hey! Michael  how much?

              Bob1

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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 23:46:51 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Hi all,

I've just made a significant enhancement to the DBCHECK program. For
some reason, I could have sworn that previous versions would check to
make sure that notes and the data records that referenced them matched
up. But it didn't. I've fixed that in v1.7, and made another smaller
enhancement.

I really think this will increase the reliability of what is reported
by DBCHECK. I've already seen two corrupted LX files which this
version detects but the previous didn't. Please get it from:

My web page:
http://cameron.hplx.net   (alias)
http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/lxgames.html

or via FTP:
ftp://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/dbcheck.zip


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Date:         Thu, 25 May 2000 23:36:46 -0100
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Hallo,

I need some advice with the following problem:

I want to create a system macro that:

a) invokes 123 (green key)
b) loads a named 123 sheet (/tl<name_of_sheet>)
c) then executes a 123 macro (ALT+A)

and repeat these steps for two 123 sheets.

Each 123 macro does its job, saves itself, and quits 123.
Each one runs fine on its own. I can record the system macro
and everything executes well during recording.

However, when I run the system macro I get an unexpected
beep, and several times the system macro opens unexpectedly
APPT.

The User Guide is not clear about step b). It claims that
1) " you can write and run a system macro while in 123"
2) " you can cause a system macro to execute a 123 macro".

The example given in the User Guide seems to assume that
a 123 sheet is already loaded!

My question: Is my step b), pressing the 123 keys /tl ...
not allowed from system manager?

The system macro is:

{123}/tltest{Enter}{Alt+A}{123}/tltest{Enter}{Alt+A}

The 123 macro (test) is simply:

\A       {SET cnt,cnt+1}
         /ts~j            (transfer, save, yes)
         /ej              (end, yes)

cnt      51


Any help is appreciated.

Regards
Norbert

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 07:56:57 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: vertical line problem...fix?
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Hi Al,

On Thu, 25 May 2000 10:15:16 -0400, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

> my 100LX has developed a severe "vertical line" problem. Pressure on
> the left side of the screen corrects the problem. I have removed the
> screen bezel & adjusted/tightened the torx-6 screws, but it doesn't
> help. Any other suggestions?
>
> I do have a spare 100LX with a good screen I could drop my upgraded
> motherboard into if need be...perhaps that is the best way to go?

if you have the necessary skills to do such a screen swap, you should
also be able to repair your screen:

Take the whole palmtop apart, so that you can remove the screen with
the vertical lines (DON'T open the right hinge! You can also remove the
screen with leaving the right hinge as it is!!).

The screen unit consists of the glass part, the circuit board and a
metal construction which holds both parts together. This metal
construction has several metal 'lips', which are bended towards the
inner of the whole construction (if you see it as a 2 dimensional
thing). If you bend the lips on the left side of the screen (say the
first two lips in both rows) sway from the position where they hold the
screen together, and then bend them back, but so that they press both
parts a little bit more together, you may have fixed the problem.

Please let me know if it worked.

P.S.: Don't bend these lips too much, because they could break!
If you need more assistance in the details please drop me a line!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:19 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote:
> Tomas Moberg wrote:

> If I reduce the baud rate to 19200 or 9600, I only get the last
> line:
>
> at&v
>
> S45:006 S46:000 S47:000 S48:000
>
> OK

I get the same thing. I tried 2400. Same thing there.
And 57600 gave the same result as 38400 but more "baud rate too high"

>
> This behavior is always reproducible. Either the 8210 or IR
> seems to "omit" the first 5 lines. My 8210 software version is
> 5.11 (Find out with *#0000#)
5.16 is what I have.


>
> > But if i lower my baud rate to 19200 (or 9600) then I have problems =
with the
> > connection. Especialy DNS problems (!?).
>
> I have no problems with 19200, but sometimes I cannot connect
> with 9600, same as you. However I didn't try often.

What is Your init string?

>
> > With Peichls Ring.com I get EMI errors/sec=3D1
>
> This is almost impossible. I get about 140 EMI errors/sec. Are
> you sure, you run RING from DOS and not from SysMgr with serial
> power off?

I have a tendency not to read manuals. If I run Ring.com the right way
(not from sysmgr) I also got EMI er/s about 140.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 06:05:28 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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GaryS wrote:

> Martin,
>
> > ROFL..I use approx 27 hours to process a SETI@Home unit on my Celeron
> > 400@552 Mhz. I have been "Jodie Foster in Contact" for about 3553 hours
> > and 125 units.
>
> My 300MHz machine does a work unit in under 13 hours. I think you
> have the screen saver enabled - generating all those pretty graphics
> takes up most of the time you quote. If you set the screen saver to
> blank or none then your throughput will at least double.

Thanks I have set the screensaver to "Blank" now..I have to see if it
crunches any faster. Maybe a little faster, but I think the Celeron
processor that I got is not the ideal processor for this work. It has
less cache than a Pentium 2/3 and is a cheap processor compared to P3.

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 06:05:32 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Sun, 21 May 2000 23:08:31 +0000, Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> Hello Again,

Hello there..

> Update time for any Demon/Orange/Nokia 7110 users in the UK
> (i.e. just me!). Thanks for all comments & suggestions. The
> problem in my case (as David Cripps said) was that my mobile
> service provider (Orange) had to enable data/fax calls.

This is often the case. Here in Norway all calling plans has data
enabled now.(Because of wap) If you want data "in" you have to
subscribe to a special dataplan. But I just need data out for wap and
Www/lx use.

> My internet service provider (Demon) has a dedicated Orange
> mobile number which is charged at a discounted Orange mobile
> to Orange mobile rate. I tried that but no luck. Not entirely
> sure why. It was originally intended to be used with the Orange
> data card on older Nokias, and I think that might have some
> bearing on it. I'll give Demon a call and ask.

I have had problems connecting to a isdn node. Called the same isp but
on the V34 node and it worked. Not sure what the problem is..

> Next I tried their standard dial-up number, and got straight
> through at 9,600. E-mail sent successfully. Wow!

Yes it is nice is'nt it? :-)

> FYI, my phone's software rev. (key: *#0000#) is 4.80.

Mine is 4.84..rumors about 4.88 are floating around..nothing confirmed
yet.

> I've subsequently transferred SMS messages backwards & forwards
> using D&A's script for their Robot/LX s/w. All good fun.

Have you downloaded the latest smsscript from Dasoft? Since the 7110
store sms messages both on sim and on phonememory the script had to be
modified to work if you have a lot of messages on the phone. Also some
other changes..

> The phone's pretty nifty too.

Yes I think so too..

> I can't help but feel that they
> should have concentrated more on the user interface &
> functionality for using the device as a phone, and a little
> less on games & 35 ring tones (only 3 of which sound like a
> phone).

Not sure what you mean. I think it works great as a phone. The
userinterface is a bit slow when scrolling messages. I like that I can
push Menu+9 to activate irda and things like that.. The phonebxk is
great. But there are some things I would like changed..

> I guess that's what happens when you employ
> snowboarders as programmers ;-)

ROFL..yeah maybe..it seems that all these snowboarders are now working
on Club Nokia Careline..they have no idea what you are asking and no
idea how to answer them..:-)

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 14:55:24 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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I use Outlook to HP-LX version 0.5 with great success.
I use MS Outlook 97 Version 8.03.4629, and  MS Win NT 4.0 SP5. I also have
MS IE5 installed, if it makes any difference.

I must admit I am quite impressed with the fact that I can get my calendar
into the HP - I rely on it quite heavily. I don't export my calendar from
the HP to the desktop, yet, that's why I have to merge and keep backups (or
even duplicate manually some items from the HP to the desktop, but it's in
the minority of instances).

I have a colleague who has the Compaq 2100 or something CE2 PDA which has
very impressive sync software to Outlook and e-mail etc. I'm going to buy
such a device for my wife very soon now - but for myself I'm stuck to the HP
because of the keyboard and ruggedness and DOS software capability. I am a
programmer by trade, so I find it fun to develop small apps for myself.
Granted, boxers think it's fun to get hit in the head. I will also start
developing CE database apps when I buy the PDA, but eversince I saw the HP
back in 91 or 92 I wanted one.

My options in OL2LX are set as follows (I use the defaults mostly)
Appbook name: ol2hp.adb
Template name template.adb (I use the default template file). This might be
important. This is the file datestamped 1999/04/13 22:04 template.adb

I export Appointments
I export Todos.
All else is false.

I don't bother deleting the ol2hp.adb file before exporting.

I open Outlook before starting the export (usually).

I mostly merge the outlook items into the HPLX but this causes some
duplicates (especially recurring appointments) which I sometimes have to
delete manually.

HTH. Feel free to contact me if you need more info. If you want to sell
(give away???) your HP you'll find many takers, so don't give up too easily.

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Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carla Ruigh ÝSMTP:swngdncr@GARLIC.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 5:10 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Ol2lx file crashes 200lx
>
> Hey all,
>
> I've been trying to use the Ol2lx software I got off the SUPER site to
> put my outlook calendar in HP appt. book format.  The translation goes
> fine, I get it into the HP, it opens up fine, but then when I try to go
> to a different date or view, it crashes the HP.  Any ideas?  I'd really
> like to stay with my 200lx, but if I can't get my calendar  into it, I
> may have to migrate to a later PDA.   Thanks!  -Carla-
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Is it possible to load a specific 123 spreadsheet directly from the application manager?

Thanks.

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<<By 4K, I meant the quantity of 4000 units not RAM. Isn't that how many you
said you were getting from the railroad?

I think I had a Vic-20 with 4K of memory once.>>

4K, 4M, what's the difference<g>.  Yes, we think we will get around 4000
units in August for resale and repair parts.

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I have been having trouble with my 32 Meg drive.  I was hoping that others might have some insight or ideas.  When I use a PCMCIA modem, I tend to get corruption of my 32 Meg drive only.  The original 1.4 Meg RAM drive is OK as is the flash card.  This
has happened with 3 different modems.  It has also happened while using either lxcic or cic100 as the modem driver.

I have sent the palmtop in to Thaddues for repair twice and they have put in both a new motherboard and two new 32 Meg cards.  The problem is still happening, so it probably isn't a hardware issue.

When I got it back from Thaddues this time, I left rdswap.exe out of my config.sys. This makes the 1.4 Meg drive the C: drive while the 32 Meg drive is the F: drive.  With this setup I was able to run Post/LX and acCIS 4.0 from the 1.4 Meg C: drive with
out any problems.  I then copied my c:\_dat, c:\www, and c:\accis4 directories over to the F: drive and added rdswap.exe to the config.sys.  After a reboot I had the 32 Meg drive as C: and the 1.4 Meg drive as F:.  When I went online with Post/LX this w
ay, I got several errors on the 32 Meg drive.  I got cross linked files, garbage characters in some file names, several lost clusters, and an invalid directory.  This affected mostly the c:\www directory and is the same sort of errors I have noticed bef
ore.

I am puzzled since I used the exact same program files with the exact same configuration, just a different C: drive.  I am not currently running TREMM or SC, but I have had these running in the past when this problem occured.  The speed driver, rdt2t.ex
e, and rdswap.exe I am using now came back from Thaddues with the palmtop, so they are not the ones I was using when the problem first started having problems.

Any ideas of what to try next?

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 15:36:12 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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Off topic

My Sinclair ZX-81 had 1K of RAM. Until I upgraded to a massive never to be
filled 16K.
I remember there was a 1K chess game available on the ZX-81.

-----------------
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Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:22 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: 32MB DS 200LX
>
> <<By 4K, I meant the quantity of 4000 units not RAM. Isn't that how many
> you
> said you were getting from the railroad?
>
> I think I had a Vic-20 with 4K of memory once.>>
>
> 4K, 4M, what's the difference<g>.  Yes, we think we will get around 4000
> units in August for resale and repair parts.
>
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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> Is it possible to load a specific 123 spreadsheet directly from the
application manager?

Look for the OPEN program on the SUPER site.  It's designed to let you open
certain native files (.?db, .wk1) from Filer by hightlighting and pressing
Enter.  Also, it allows you to open the file using a native built-in app by
specifying the file on a DOS command line.

Works using some keybuffer tricks, and 123 worksheets may take more keyboard
buffer than is normally available (there should be a note in regards to that
included with OPEN).... so you may need the kbuf128.sys program (from KEYSTUFF)
to extend the buffer .... or you may not need it if you're running Mack's recent
DS driver, which I believe includes a keyboard buffer extender also.

Once you have that working, it's just a matter of creating an AppMgr icon with a
command line in the Path field with both OPEN and the spreadsheet specified that
you want to load.  Ie,

          Path:  a:\utl\open.exe  a:\data\cashflow.wk1

- Longden

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              Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
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Is there a way to get these mailings to come through Microsoft Outlook
Express as a newsgroup with my other newsgroups rather than as E-mails in my
inbox?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken London
KenLondon@beld.net

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I am reposting this message with what I hope is better screen formatting:

I have been having trouble with my 32 Meg drive.  I was hoping that others
might have some insight or ideas.  When I use a PCMCIA modem, I tend to get
corruption of my 32 Meg drive only.  The original 1.4 Meg RAM drive is OK as
 is the flash card.  This has happened with 3 different modems.  It has also
 happened while using either lxcic or cic100 as the modem driver.

I have sent the palmtop in to Thaddues for repair twice and they have put in
both a new motherboard and two new 32 Meg cards.  The problem is still
happening, so it probably isn't a hardware issue.

When I got it back from Thaddues this time, I left rdswap.exe out of my
config.sys. This makes the 1.4 Meg drive the C: drive while the 32 Meg drive is
the F: drive.  With this setup I was able to run Post/LX and acCIS 4.0 from the
1.4 Meg C: drive with out any problems.  I then copied my c:\_dat, c:\www, and
 c:\accis4 directories over to the F: drive and added rdswap.exe to the
 config.sys.  After a reboot I had the 32 Meg drive as C: and the 1.4 Meg drive
 as F:.  When I went online with Post/LX this way, I got several errors on the
 32 Meg drive.  I got cross linked files, garbage characters in some file
 names, several lost clusters, and an invalid directory.  This affected mostly
 the c:\www directory and is the same sort of errors I have noticed before.

I am puzzled since I used the exact same program files with the exact same
configuration, just a different C: drive.  I am not currently running TREMM or
SC, but I have had these running in the past when this problem occured.  The
speed driver, rdt2t.exe, and rdswap.exe I am using now came back from Thaddeus
 with the palmtop, so they are not the ones I was using when the problem first
 started having problems.

Any ideas of what to try next?

Steve Carder























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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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I use Inbox assistant to move all the mails from HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu to
another folder when they come in.

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken London ÝSMTP:kenlondon@BELD.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 4:52 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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>
> Is there a way to get these mailings to come through Microsoft Outlook
> Express as a newsgroup with my other newsgroups rather than as E-mails in
> my
> inbox?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken London
> KenLondon@beld.net
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 May 2000 to 24 May 2000 (#2000-186)
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On Thu, 25 May 2000 22:11:47 -0400 Jim Saklad <jimdoc@iname.com> writes:
> >Interesting.  I have never seen a foldable Go!Type keyboard.   The
> >original is a non-foldable type with a flip-cover.   The keyboard
> >the other fellow was refering to is made of metal, folds almost as
> >small as a palm (in 4 parts) and opens up to a full size keyboard.
>
> Try this:
>
http://www.mplanet.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=3715&pf%5Fid=MP950185&listin
g=1

That is the Palm/Targus keyboard I was refering to.  The one I was asking
about
is the GoType foldable keyboard, which, as we have seen, there is no such
thing (yet).

Domingo

>
> >I have forgotten the original maker's name (tri something), but now
> >it is being distributed under the palm name.
>
> Also Targus, and Handspring
>
>
> --
>
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~
>   Jim Saklad
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On Fri, 26 May 2000 10:51:32 -0400, Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET> wrote:

> Is there a way to get these mailings to come through Microsoft Outlook
> Express as a newsgroup with my other newsgroups rather than as E-mails in my
> inbox?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

Go to hplx.net and use the newsgroup feature.

Jeff

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Is there a way to get these mailings to come through Microsoft Outlook
Express as a newsgroup with my other newsgroups rather than as E-mails in my
inbox?>>

In Outlook Express --- if you go Tools Message Rules Mail you can send all
items from this mailing list to a particular folder rather than your inbox.
Then you can view messages at your leisure without cluttering your Inbox.
Most email programs have this feature.

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 16:15:17 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: System macro - loading 123 sheet and executing 123 macro
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I don't know if this is the answer but the NORMAL dos versions of 123
had trouble with programs that sent keystrokes to 123.  From what I
recall about a pcmagazine utility, 123 "erases" the keyboard buffer as
it loads, thereby "swallowing" keystrokes that may have been sent to it
from a batch file.  There was a way using a few "time delay" codes in
that program to get around this.  Maybe the hp version reacts similarly.

Then, again, I think buddy could load 123 stuff and I think that
keystuff can work, too.

Good luck

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 16:15:19 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Just curious about whether anyone is maintaining the HP Super Files?
Particularly NEW files?

I've seen a number of questions about it lately including questions
about where to send new files but no one has answered whether the FILES
are still being maintained or updated.

I understand that we cannot expect a continuous source of new and
wonderful applications and that things will slow so that may be the
issue.

Just curious.

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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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What kind of modem(s) are used. Perhaps it's a power issue?

>I have been having trouble with my 32 Meg drive.  I was hoping
>that others
>might have some insight or ideas.  When I use a PCMCIA modem,
>I tend to get
>corruption of my 32 Meg drive only.  The original 1.4 Meg RAM
>drive is OK as
> is the flash card.  This has happened with 3 different
>modems.  It has also
> happened while using either lxcic or cic100 as the modem driver.
>

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              Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
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I recently bought some MIDI software for DOS and am now very curious to know
if it will run on the LX.

What I would like to do is connect a MIDI interface to COM1.  The
MIDI transmission speed for PC compatibles I believe is 38.4 kbps, but I
seem to recall discussion on the list saying the COM1 UART speed is limited,
which is why no modem faster than 14.4k can be used on COM1.

It also seems to me that I transfer files to & from my desktop computer at
57600 through COM1, however.

Sorry if I'm out to lunch.  Can anyone clarify this, or has anyone used an LX
to control MIDI devices?


TIA,

200LX in Vancouver

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On Fri, 26 May 2000 10:15:59 -0700 Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM> writes:
> Sorry if I'm out to lunch.  Can anyone clarify this, or has anyone
> used an LX
> to control MIDI devices?

Hopefully someone will give you more details.   In the meantime, I
recall someone indicating that he was doing just that.   Search the
archives as far back as two years ago or so, when I last recall this
being discussed fully (but I did get off the list a few times, so it
might
have been discussed more recently than that).  Specifically, someone
(I think the name was Tony?) was using a portable midi device with the
hplx.

You could also try dejanews, searching in comp.sys.palmtops.

Also, search the palmtop paper web site.  The issue might have been
addressed on the paper itself.

Good luck with your search.

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On Fri, 26 May 2000 10:15:59 -0700 Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM> writes:
> What I would like to do is connect a MIDI interface to COM1.  The
> MIDI transmission speed for PC compatibles I believe is 38.4 kbps,
> but I seem to recall discussion on the list saying the COM1 UART speed
is
> limited, which is why no modem faster than 14.4k can be used on COM1.

Not correct, a faster modem will work, but the real speed you will see
will
be limited.

> It also seems to me that I transfer files to & from my desktop
> computer at 57600 through COM1, however.

Software transfer programs can do some neat tricks to operate
faster, but this doesn't seem to apply to modems.   Whether it would
apply to a MIDI device is doubtful, likely the device might complain
about the
speed, or it might simply work slower.

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When the 16K was plugged-in in ZX-81, I had to tape it there otherwise it would
crash at the slightest movement, and also I needed a fan to contonuously blow
cool air on it otherwise it would crash (again). Talk about difficult
programming situations. I can't remember how many times I'd be copying a program
from a manazine and the 81 crashed, forcing me to re-enter all the stuff
again...

Philippe

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From: Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: Off-topic RE: 32MB DS 200LX


> Off topic
>
> My Sinclair ZX-81 had 1K of RAM. Until I upgraded to a massive never to be
> filled 16K.
> I remember there was a 1K chess game available on the ZX-81.
>
> -----------------
> Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
> Delphi Analyst/Programmer
> BHIS Consulting
> Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
> Tel: +27 12 336-7256
> Cell:+27 82 468-7480
> klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
> Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za
>
>      o__
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>
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:22 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: 32MB DS 200LX
> >
> > <<By 4K, I meant the quantity of 4000 units not RAM. Isn't that how many
> > you
> > said you were getting from the railroad?
> >
> > I think I had a Vic-20 with 4K of memory once.>>
> >
> > 4K, 4M, what's the difference<g>.  Yes, we think we will get around 4000
> > units in August for resale and repair parts.
> >
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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 14:38:27 -0400
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
> I've just made a significant enhancement to the DBCHECK program. For

Thanks for the continuing improvements to a VIP (Very Important Program)!

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 10:08:45 -0700
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              Carla Ruigh <swngdncr@GARLIC.COM>
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Thanks for the suggestions Donald,  the templete might be the problem.  I
presume the templete file is in the 200LX?  I don't know what MS IE5 is, but I
am using Outlook 98.   I'll double check the version of HP-LX I am using, maybe
I downloaded an old one.  Unfortunately, I can't mess w/this again till Tuesday
because I left my connection cable at work, and I'm off for the weekend, and
work isn't close. .   C'est la vie...  Thanks  -Carla-

Klopper Donald wrote:

> I use Outlook to HP-LX version 0.5 with great success.
> I use MS Outlook 97 Version 8.03.4629, and  MS Win NT 4.0 SP5. I also have
> MS IE5 installed, if it makes any difference.
>
> I must admit I am quite impressed with the fact that I can get my calendar
> into the HP - I rely on it quite heavily. I don't export my calendar from
> the HP to the desktop, yet, that's why I have to merge and keep backups (or
> even duplicate manually some items from the HP to the desktop, but it's in
> the minority of instances).
>
> I have a colleague who has the Compaq 2100 or something CE2 PDA which has
> very impressive sync software to Outlook and e-mail etc. I'm going to buy
> such a device for my wife very soon now - but for myself I'm stuck to the HP
> because of the keyboard and ruggedness and DOS software capability. I am a
> programmer by trade, so I find it fun to develop small apps for myself.
> Granted, boxers think it's fun to get hit in the head. I will also start
> developing CE database apps when I buy the PDA, but eversince I saw the HP
> back in 91 or 92 I wanted one.
>
> My options in OL2LX are set as follows (I use the defaults mostly)
> Appbook name: ol2hp.adb
> Template name template.adb (I use the default template file). This might be
> important. This is the file datestamped 1999/04/13 22:04 template.adb
>
> I export Appointments
> I export Todos.
> All else is false.
>
> I don't bother deleting the ol2hp.adb file before exporting.
>
> I open Outlook before starting the export (usually).
>
> I mostly merge the outlook items into the HPLX but this causes some
> duplicates (especially recurring appointments) which I sometimes have to
> delete manually.
>
> HTH. Feel free to contact me if you need more info. If you want to sell
> (give away???) your HP you'll find many takers, so don't give up too easily.
>
> -----------------
> Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
> Delphi Analyst/Programmer
> BHIS Consulting
> Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
> Tel: +27 12 336-7256
> Cell:+27 82 468-7480
> klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
> Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za
>
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>    (_) \(_)
>
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carla Ruigh ÝSMTP:swngdncr@GARLIC.COM¨
> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 5:10 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Ol2lx file crashes 200lx
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I've been trying to use the Ol2lx software I got off the SUPER site to
> > put my outlook calendar in HP appt. book format.  The translation goes
> > fine, I get it into the HP, it opens up fine, but then when I try to go
> > to a different date or view, it crashes the HP.  Any ideas?  I'd really
> > like to stay with my 200lx, but if I can't get my calendar  into it, I
> > may have to migrate to a later PDA.   Thanks!  -Carla-
> >
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David,

Why part with a perfectly good serial cable when you may not
have to. I bought one from Thaddeus and even with shipping it
was less than a serial cable. Call them; they may be able to
help.

William E. Blankenship

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Hello,

I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
be in the original order finally.

If XGREP would have a way to formulate ORed expressions, it
would solve my task.

Any ideas?

Regards
Norbert

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 15:36:48 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 32 Meg palmtop problem
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Steve Carder wrote:
> I have been having trouble with my 32 Meg drive.  I was hoping that others

Steve,
My first question is, do you have the most versions of the software for
the 32M disk?  As of a couple of days ago these are the most recent
files for the RDT2T and TREMM packages; I don't have a 2X speed LX so
I can't list those files.

----------------------------------------
 Volume in drive C is Times2_Tech
 Directory of C:\BIN\T2T32M\RDT2T

CONFIG   T2T       180 06-03-99   9:53a
LICENSE  TXT      6319 04-13-96   7:52p
RDSWAP   EXE       942 10-14-98  12:59p
RDT2T    EXE      1965 06-11-99   3:17p
RDT2T    TXT      4780 04-01-99  12:40a
        7 file(s)      14186 bytes
----------------------------------------
 Directory of C:\BIN\T2T32M\TREMM

INSTEMM  EXE     18729 06-22-99  10:50p
TRCHECK  TXT      1945 04-01-99  12:33a
TRCHECK  COM      1290 08-17-98   9:53a
TREMM    EXE      4399 07-06-99   5:45p
TREMM    TXT      5547 04-01-99  12:32a
        7 file(s)      31910 bytes
----------------------------------------

If you don't have these versions get the latest ones from Mack's web
site. My 32M arrived from Thadeus last summer with downlevel drivers so
I wouldn't be surprised if ones you got after the repairs are downlevel
too.

Your post seems to indicate WWW/LX as a possible problem source.  While
I haven't had any disk corruption problems I have had a couple of
problems that showed up during or after running WWW/LX.  I posted my
experience several months ago about editing my POST.CFG and cleaning out
many dead and orphan entries that had collected.  If you add and delete
newsgroups and folders it seems they don't completely get removed from
the CFG file.  In my case the result was a WWW/LX that got flakey and
started crashing often.  Cleaning the CFG fixed the problem.

Whay other software runs in your LX?

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 09:35:32 +1200
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              Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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It seems to be a problem with 200lx palmtops. Apparently it is due to a
loose contact in the screen circuit board. I understand the only way of
finding out which chip is loose is to use an outer shell with a hole in the
back to allow you to put pressure on the various contacts / chips of the
screen circuit board while the unit is switched on.

The annoying thing is that more and more lines start to appear with time.
Try the Thaddeus repair option.

Regards,
Stefan

> Date:    Thu, 25 May 2000 10:15:16 -0400
> From:    Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Subject: vertical line problem...fix?
>
> Thu, 25 May 2000 10:09:58 -0500 (EST)
>
> my 100LX has developed a severe "vertical line" problem. Pressure on
> the left side of the screen corrects the problem. I have removed the
> screen bezel & adjusted/tightened the torx-6 screws, but it doesn't
> help. Any other suggestions?

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 09:53:26 +1200
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Thanks for you reply. I have just recently bought RAM batteries. (This is on
an old single speed HP100LX - 200LX unit was in for repairs). It initially
gave me 6+ hours of continuous use - subsequently it became less and less.
Now I can hardly use it with if I have a flash card installed. Must add that
I did allow it to discharge the first time round which may have been the
mistake.

Regards,
Stefan

> Date:    Thu, 25 May 2000 10:34:54 -0500
> From:    Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 May 2000 to 24 May 2000 (#2000-186)
>
> <<<<Has anyone on the list tried to use RAM (rechargeable alkaline
> batteries) -
> I initially thought it sounded like a great idea because the do not
> have the
> memory effect of NiCad's and are rated at 1500mAh. Has anyone tried
> or does
> the same problem apply as for Duracell's? (I have previously used
> Duracell's
> with my 80Mb DoubleFlash card without much of a problem.>>>>
...
> I've tried the rechargable alkaline batteries without much success.
> I'm not good at remembering to recharge before they get very low,
> which is what you're supposed to do with them to get good use from
> them.  Actually I thought the rechargable alkalines were rated at
> 2500mAH or 2700mAH or some such.

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 22:56:00 +0100
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Dear Dr. Nathalie,

I'm sure we're all grateful for your analysis of the symptoms of these deadly
contemporary viruses. If in difficulty, may we ask you for a diagnosis? Assuming
you are equally competent in the field of bacteria (bugs, in the vernacular), I
could also do with some diagnostic help when something totally unwarranted
happens my Windows at least once or twice per week -:)

Richard


Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> >Now that's a nasty way to catch a VIRUS...or so I've heard ;-)
>
> >Cheers...AJKind
>
> hi honourable list owner ;)
>
> a fluffless gloom&doom?  :))
>
> NEW AGE VIRUS : PC checks the compatibility of the star signs of all the
> peripherals; optimises the Feng Shui of the icons and colours on your Active
> Desktop window; and analyses your personality from your choice of fonts.
>
> GREEN VIRUS : Refuses print command, to save paper.
>
> POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS : Renames key functions on your PC (e.g.
> motherboard becomes homemaker function area).
>
> STAR TREK VIRUS : Invades your system in places where no virus has gone
> before.
>
> cheers
> Nathalie
>
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Hi.  Anyone understands how to change the palmtop screen order,
so as to have it present the RAM/FLASH button first, for example?

TIA

Domingo

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DEBUERGS LIST 6.2 WOULD WORK REAL GOOD. LEAVES ORIGINAL FILE INDACT.

SPENCENorbert Giese wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
> more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
> and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
> be in the original order finally.
>
> If XGREP would have a way to formulate ORed expressions, it
> would solve my task.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards
> Norbert
>
> --
> Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 21:10:25 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 26 May 2000 19:13:14 -0400 (EDT)

01h07m46s ago ...
On Fri, 26 May 2000, D Dv wrote:

> Hi.  Anyone understands how to change the palmtop screen order,
> so as to have it present the RAM/FLASH button first, for example?

If you have XF R.10 or one of the R.11 betas, it's pretty easy.

You just mark the icon you want to move, put the cursor where you want
it to show, then hit either ÝSHIFT¨ÝNum Pad Decimal¨ or Menu - Edit -
Order.  You will need to change the Palmtop screen sort order in
finder.env to OFF to see the effect.

If you want to preserve the present order except for a few changes,
try marking the first icon, moving the cursor back to the first
position, then use the above procedure.


HTH

Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 10:24:55 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>> > ROFL..I use approx 27 hours to process a SETI@Home unit on my Celeron
>> > 400@552 Mhz. I have been "Jodie Foster in Contact" for about 3553 hours
>> > and 125 units.
>>
>> My 300MHz machine does a work unit in under 13 hours. I think you
>> have the screen saver enabled - generating all those pretty graphics
>> takes up most of the time you quote. If you set the screen saver to
>> blank or none then your throughput will at least double.
>
>Thanks I have set the screensaver to "Blank" now..I have to see if it
>crunches any faster.


Hi all
Two other projects to look at one is www.entropia.com and the other is
www.distributed.net  Both give you a chance to use spare cycles to earn/win
$$ as well as help solve computationally difficult challenges.
Unfortunately the LX doesnt make the processor grade.

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> What kind of modem(s) are used. Perhaps it's a power issue?

One is the new Thaddeus 56K one.  The other two are 14.4 modems I have had for over a year and this trouble has only been present for a few weeks.  So, I doubt that it is just a modem power issue.

Steve Carder

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> My first question is, do you have the most versions of the software for
> the 32M disk?

I am currently using the drivers loaded by Thaddeus when they sent it back.  So I assume they used the most recent ones.  I will try to download new ones from Times 2 Tech if I can find my username and password for that site.

Steve Carder

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> I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
> more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
> and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
> be in the original order finally.

PERL, a computer language, will do this sort of thing well.  I am just starting to learn it for a similar use, so I only know enough to tell you it can be done, not exactly how.  There is a nice DOS version 4.x of PERL on the SimTel site and I think one
 the SUPER site.  It runs on my HP200LX.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Fri, 26 May 2000 19:17:46 -0700
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In mint condition with box, manual, and software (everything).

Personal portable office. GSM 1900.

* Send and receive e-mail
* WWW browser
* Telnet Fax
* Send and receive faxes
* Cover page options Applications
* PC Connectivity for file transfer and backup via cable or infrared
* Synchronize with your ACT! database and many other applications
* Connect to printer via cable or infrared
* Upload and download contacts
* Personal calendar
* Address book
* Scheduler with alarm
* Remote calendar appointment booking
* To-do list¬ Full Featured GSM 1900 Digital Phone
* Backlit display
* Credit card calling
* Voicemail
* Short Messaging System (SMS)
* Hands-free speakerphone
* Conference call up to 6 persons
* Numeric paging capability

For more information, please visit
http://www.nokiausa.com/beautylandscape/1,1004,14,FF.html

Asking $410. Please e-mail me if interested.

Donglok Kim

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 00:11:42 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: How can I extract two or more lines from a file?
Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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Old versions of Perl 4 do work fine on the 200, but some timing tests might
be in order before committing much work to any 200 based perl process as
it may run quite slow.

perl is an excellent language for all kinds of text manipulation/matching
tasks, and the current builds run very well on both Unix and Windows based
systems. While current windows/Unix versions of perl are by no means
plug-to-plug compatable with the V4s that run on the 200, they tend to be
a superset, so most perl that runs on the 200 runs just fine on larger
machines. The reverse, of course, isn't true.

Steve Carder wrote:
>
> > I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
> > more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
> > and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
> > be in the original order finally.
>
> PERL, a computer language, will do this sort of thing well.  I am just starting to learn it for a similar use, so I only know enough to tell you it can be done, not exactly how.  There is a nice DOS version 4.x of PERL on the SimTel site and I think one
>  the SUPER site.  It runs on my HP200LX.
>
> Steve Carder
>

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 09:57:42 +0200
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              Geert van Wirdum <v.wirdum@HCCNET.NL>
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I access the HPlX list primarely via the Newsgroup, an excellent
service (thanks, David!), and accept any occasional flaws. I am still
curious what causes such. Today, the last message I found dates back to
20 May, and someone wonders whether the group is down. Occasionally
there seem to be no new messages for some days. The number of the last
message read in WWW/LX-Post's session reports then usually is higher
than the highest nr in the range. It appears that the latter is
occasionally decreased with several hundreds, so Post thinks there is
nothing new to download.

This can be easily repaired in PostLX: Menu Externals Setup F6, lower
the highest nr read to a value lower than the highest nr in the range
mentioned in the most recent session report, low enough to include
missed messages. A bunch of messages can then be downloaded. Sometimes
there will still appear to be no missed messages among these, as is the
case today. I expect ther will be many new messages at once soon.

Could someone explain what causes this, and could the numbering problem
be solved? (I would rather like to see the lowest number go up when
messages are removed from the News server).

TIA,

Geert.

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 11:24:57 +0200
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              rakotor <rakotor@INFONIE.FR>
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Subject:      Re: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?
Comments: To: Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
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Yes, you can control midi devices via the serial port of the hp200lx.
I use mine with an old dos version of cakewalk to edit or to create midi
files with a midi keyboard linked to the palmtop via a midi interface (a Key
Midiator) and to play them through a Yamaha expander. When I need only the
playback function, I connect directly the hp to the expander with a serial
cable.
Rakoto

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:15 PM
Subject: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?


> I recently bought some MIDI software for DOS and am now very curious to
know
> if it will run on the LX.
>
> What I would like to do is connect a MIDI interface to COM1.  The
> MIDI transmission speed for PC compatibles I believe is 38.4 kbps, but I
> seem to recall discussion on the list saying the COM1 UART speed is
limited,
> which is why no modem faster than 14.4k can be used on COM1.
>
> It also seems to me that I transfer files to & from my desktop computer at
> 57600 through COM1, however.
>
> Sorry if I'm out to lunch.  Can anyone clarify this, or has anyone used an
LX
> to control MIDI devices?
>
>
> TIA,
>
> 200LX in Vancouver
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 14:47:01 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: 32 Meg palmtop problem
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Steve Carder wrote:

> I have been having trouble with my 32 Meg drive.
> I was hoping that others might have some insight
> or ideas.  When I use a PCMCIA modem, I tend to
> get corruption of my 32 Meg drive only.

I assume, you are not "hot swapping" cards. In order to
isolate the problem, I suggest

1-unload CIC100 or LXCIC, insert the modem, switch the palmtop
  on and check your 32MB drive

now load CIC100 or LXCIC and test:

2-insert the modem and check your 32MB drive.
3-use SysMgr Datacomm and set it up for COM2. Try some simple
  AT commands like AT&V
4-use Datacomm and dial the number of your provider using ATDT...

check your 32MB drive after every test. That way, you should
find out, if it is a (power-) hardware or software problem.

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 09:25:49 -0400
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              victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Victor Roberts <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: GrandView and other old DOS s/w
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On 25 Apr 2000, Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM> wrote:

> I have shrink wrapped copies of sidekick and deskview
> both the first releases, anybody even remember these programs?

Sure, I used them both and still have copies. When I was first
forced to use Win 3.1 at work, I ran it as a task _under_
Desqview!

Vic

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 16:30:18 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Nokia 8210 only works reliable at 38400 baud
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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After some more testing the Nokia 8210 only seems to work
reliable at 38400 baud concerning email, html and news.

Email with POST/LX also works at lower baud rates, but not news
and html. Don't ask me why, but if the 8210 swallows whole
lines at lower baud rates than 38400, I'm not surprised...

I switched now back to 38400 and ignore the "overrun errors".

> > My 8210 software version is 5.11 (Find out with *#0000#)
> 5.16 is what I have.

actual is AFAIK 5.22

> What is Your init string?

just ATZ, but you could also try AT&F+CBST=3D71,0,1
This resets to factory configuration (AT&F) and selects the
bearer service type (+CBST) to 9600 ISDN. If you are lucky,
you get a much faster "CONNECT", but it depends on your GSM and
ISP service provider.

BTW, the 7110 doesn't show different behaviour according to the
selected baud rate, therefore I doubt it's a WWW/LX problem.

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 10:05:29 +0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, dmb10@SWBELL.NET
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Subject:      Does anyone know where these 95LX programs are available?
MIME-version: 1.0

In reading a review of the May/June issue of PTP, several Appointment
Book enhancements are mentioned.  I've searched on the SUPER site, and
not been able to find any of these programs.  Does anyone know where any
of the following programs might be available for download:

ABKTool
MultiDay
WeekABK
zAPP

Any information would be greatly appreciated.





Regards,
dmb10@swbell.net

Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 09:22:58 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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From:         Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Subject:      Compact Flash disk,
              PCMCIA disks and Name Brand Sandisks are available
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I have (1) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies Compact flash disk
available left. This disk is in excellent condition and has only been
used a very few times in testing out a customers prototype product at
work. I am selling this disk for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and
packaging. I  also  have (7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks
available as well. I sell (1) 20 Meg disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00
for shipping. If you are only interested in name brand Sandisks, then I
have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks available as well. I am selling (1) 20
Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell
(2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money
Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that your disk or (disks) our on the way. I always send out
disks the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and
then they go out on Monday. I package all of my disks in bubble wrap and
place them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are
interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or
(disks) for you. The response on our group so far has been really great
and the people I have worked with have been just terrific!  Thanks
alot!  Scott

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 13:23:01 -0400
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              Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG>
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Subject:      IR to a Pentax PocketJet Printer problem
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I just received my IR converted PocketJet back from Pentax and can not get
it to print from the application programs or DOS using IR.

I can do a printer self test and settings printout: 9600 N,8,1

* For Application Programs

Using more, setup, printer, I changed settings to: 9600, infrared, HP
LaserJet


* For DOS, I created a batch file with the following:

LXSTAT W I
d:\dos\mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
d:\dos\mode lpt1=com1

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

TIA

Cliff

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 11:05:04 -0700
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Subject:      IR printing to hp82240b "Redeye" printer
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Folks,

I d/led the printscreen program from the 95lx section of super.
As expected it does NOT work with my 200lx. Just locks it up.
However the Source code is included and released to open use!
So anyone want to use it to make a 200lx version?
>
> This source code is provided on an as-is basis, as an example
> of how one MIGHT print to the HP 82240A "Redeye" printer.....
> permission is hereby given for reasonable portions of this code
> to be incorporated (modified or not) in other programs....
> This program prints the screen to a redeye printer
> It takes over INT5 and runs as a TSR when the print screen
> key is pressed...IRPRTSC rev 1.0 > HP 95LX Graphical Print
> Screen Utility For Infrared Printers
> IRPRTSC is an MS-DOS TSR (Terminate-Stay-Resident) utility written
> for the HP-95LX to implement pixel-for-pixel screen dumps to an
> HP 82240 infrared printer, both in ALPHA and GRAPHICS display modes.
> This allows you to get a printout of your HP-95LX display that looks
> exactly like what you see on the display.
> Supported printers are the HP 82440A and HP 82440B.




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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 20:04:31 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 27 May 2000, David Ball wrote:

> ABKTool
> MultiDay
> WeekABK
> zAPP

I have zAPP and WeekABK. I just never got around to uploading them to
the 95LX section of SUPER :-)

I'll dig them up (in an effort to reclaim diskspace, I burned them on a
CD some time ago...) soon.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 11:17:28 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: HP New Files?
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> Just curious about whether anyone is maintaining the HP Super Files?
> Particularly NEW files?
> I've seen a number of questions about it lately including questions
> about where to send new files but no one has answered whether the FILES
> are still being maintained or updated.

This is the part that's most disturbing. Especially when people want to
distribute a new version of their software (e.g. CCLXPOP, FFDB lately) and
there's no response. Brian even asked if anyone else was willing to host
it. So it's not like there's nothing new to put on Super.

If updates have been delayed for some reason, I think a lot of people
would appreciate hearing this, rather than nothing. If the maintainers
just don't have the time or interest anymore, maybe the job should be
passed on to others. I greatly appreciate all the mostly thankless work
that Mitch and the others have done in the past, but I also think that
Super is a valuable resource that I would hate to see stagnate. With
HP out of the picture, once we stop supporting the LX ourselves, it is
doomed.

So, having said that, I'm offering to temporarily host any files
that anyone wants to make available (no warez please).

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 08:21:44 -0400
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              Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM
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All-

FFDB is a simple note based database that allows for searching for a given
string inside all of the notes. It is a little more useful than the notes
databse, in my opinion

FFDB 2.0 is available from hplx.net in the downloads sections. If anyone wants
a copy of the source code, let me know. FFDB 2.0 is freeware, uses InfoSelect
compatible files, and runs as an exm program under system manager.

Thanks to hplx.net folks for putting it up.

Brian

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 15:15:03 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Hi,

I'm looking to buy the software from the 200lx connectivity pack. I don't
need the cables and connectors as I already have them. I'll resort to buying
the whole package but would rather purchase just what I need. Let me know if
anyone would like to sell just the software.

Thanks.

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 13:14:15 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Subject:      Re: How can I extract two or more lines from a file?
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Dos 5.0 has a "Find" system utility;  I should have a copy here
somewhere (Upgraded most machines to Dos 6.22 but will be bringing one
old 286 up as a Dos 5.0 machine for the HPLX and Poquet PC.)

I haven't used it in a while but if you can find the Find program, it's
fairly easy to figure out <G>

(Is there a Dos 5 archive out there on the net - is is "Abandonware" now
or does m$ still want people to pay for it?  <G>)

  Mark

Norbert Giese wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
> more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
> and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
> be in the original order finally.
>
> If XGREP would have a way to formulate ORed expressions, it
> would solve my task.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards
> Norbert
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 15:14:21 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: IR to a Pentax PocketJet Printer problem

Cliff Crittenden writes:
>
> * For DOS, I created a batch file with the following:
>
> LXSTAT W I
> d:\dos\mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
> d:\dos\mode lpt1=com1
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I don't know what the "LXSTAT W I" does, but I know before I can print
from my 300LX to my Citizen PN60i I have to run "serctl /i" to enable
the 200LX's infrared port.  Perhaps your LXSTAT command does this, but
if not the serctl command may be what you need.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 16:55:30 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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              (#2000-188)
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> I remember there was a 1K chess game available on the ZX-81.

While reading a timex sinclair newsgroup I ran into a discussion of
that ZX-81 chess game and the author of the game jumped in and told
a few things about it.  Most interesting was that his program
actually had to run in slightly under 800 bytes due to system
overhead.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 27 May 2000 17:17:11 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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dmb10@SWBELL.NET David Ball asked for the whereabouts of the 95LX files
listed in the PTP article at
http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/9/ptp9002d.htm

The files were uploaded to the CompuServe forum in 1993 by their authors.
The files are also available on the 2000 CD Infobase (and all prior
versions).

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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I think the catch is that Norbert wants to catch lines that may contain 1 or
more possible substrings.  Or substring-1 may be on one line and substring-2
may be on another ... and he'd want both to appear, and in the proper order.

Find (and most filters) only does 1 string per command.  You could run the files
thru several filters, each with their own search string, and concatenate the
result, but then the order of the lines will be compromised (one of his
conditions).

A knotty problem ... tho probably nothing to the Perl folks or anyone who uses
regular expressions.  EGREP is a freeware search filter (from byHeart Software)
that will do the job (don't recall where I got it from... it's v2.0,  19k and
comes with a nice text help file ... and is NOT the one on Simtel).  The
command:

"egrep -i "prt|button" win.ini > results.txt"

Finds all lines containing either "prt" or "button", regardless of the case and
stores the output lines in result.txt.

I also use xgrep for most searches, and it's supposed to support regular
expressions, tho I can't seem to find a combination that works for it (maybe the
reason I have both <g>).

- Longden





Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> on 05/27/2000 01:14:15 PM

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Dos 5.0 has a "Find" system utility;  I should have a copy here
somewhere (Upgraded most machines to Dos 6.22 but will be bringing one
old 286 up as a Dos 5.0 machine for the HPLX and Poquet PC.)

Norbert Giese wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
> more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
> and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
> be in the original order finally.
>
> If XGREP would have a way to formulate ORed expressions, it
> would solve my task.
>
> Any ideas?

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I think the poster meant

LXSTAT S I         ("LXSTAT W I" is an invalid combination, I believe)

which sets the serial port to infrared.  The same functionality is offered by
d:\bin\serctl /i  as you surmised.

- Longden





Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> on 05/27/2000 01:14:21 PM

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> * For DOS, I created a batch file with the following:
>
> LXSTAT W I
> d:\dos\mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
> d:\dos\mode lpt1=com1
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I don't know what the "LXSTAT W I" does, but I know before I can print
from my 300LX to my Citizen PN60i I have to run "serctl /i" to enable
the 200LX's infrared port.  Perhaps your LXSTAT command does this, but
if not the serctl command may be what you need.

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Anyone have any favorite Forth tutorials sites or books they'd recommend
for a total newbie?  I've got a little experience mixing ingredients from
the Perl Cookbook to create useful utilites but that is the extent of my
programming skills.  I've been working through the links at forth.org but
figured others might have favorites I should check out.

Larry Zimmerman

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Subject:      Items For Sale

It doesn't look as if I'll be replacing my stolen 200lx after all.
Consequently, I've got some miscellaneous items of no further use to me.

-200lx serial cable
-200lx AC adapter (HP)
-14.4 Megahertz X-Jack Modem
-Quick Start and User Manuals
-WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS

I've also got a Compaq C120++ unit.  It is a WinCE 1.0 machine with 4
Meg.  Comes with Compaq low power PCMCIA modem, serial cable, AC adapter
and the desktop software.  I used it to type a 100 page journal article
after my laptop and 200lx was stolen so I know it works fine.

I'd prefer to accept offers to stating an exact price.  If you're
interested, let me know off list.  I'm also interested in finding a mint
Tandy Model 100 or 102.  If you've got one for trade for any of the
above, make an offer.

Larry Zimmerman

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I've finally begun tinkering around with Morse code and am interested in
using it as an interface to computers.  There is a utility/shell for
Linux which allows users to control the OS and software by entering Morse
code from a serial port key.  I've also seen some utilities which take
the output from software and send it as Morse code via the PC speaker or
an LED.

I've been looking for similar utilites which would work with DOS.  I'd
like a shell or keyboard-type driver which would allow one to input
commands to DOS and its utilities via a serial key and which could output
to an LED or PC speaker.  A search on Google found some mention of
programs aimed at disabled users but they carried price tags around $500+
(outrageous IMHO).  I'd obviously prefer an open
source/freeware/shareware solution.

Any ideas?  Thanks in advance.

Larry

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Sat, 27 May 2000 21:55:05 -0400 (EDT)

01h52m35s ago ...
On Sat, 27 May 2000, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> Anyone have any favorite Forth tutorials sites or books they'd recommend
> for a total newbie?  I've got a little experience mixing ingredients =
from
> the Perl Cookbook to create useful utilites but that is the extent of =
my
> programming skills.  I've been working through the links at forth.org =
but
> figured others might have favorites I should check out.

I like Starting Forth by Leo Brodie, if you can find a copy.  He also
had another book called Thinking Forth, that I've been unable to find.
I don't do a lot of programming, but like Frank Sergeant's Pygmy
Forth. there's a version just for the 100/200LX palmtops on SUPER
(modified by yours truly) -- but if you're not planning on replacing
the stolen LX, that version probably isn't what you want...


HTH

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Hi Folks,

 I'm trying out X-finder to be used as a replacement for Filer + AppManager.
I have a few questions. How can I startup the program so that I have a
split screen with c:\ on the left and a:\ on the right in file-detail view?
How can I switch to an AppManager-type view with one keypress from this
starting view? (and how would I return to the starting view with one
keypress?)
And finally, I'm finding that I have even less space for other apps to be
open with X-finder (that's without using Filer or AppMan). I thought that
it would be more efficient, memory-wise than the internal apps.

  Thanks in advance!

 -Eric

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While shopping at a surplus software shop in So Calif, I hit the LX goldmine and
found a stack of about 20 boxes of Lotus v2.3 and v2.4 ... some with complete
manuals, some with no manuals and some in-between.  Each was being sold for $15.

I already had a v2.3 set, but bought a v2.4 set (closer to the LX version by a
smidgen) ... mostly because my v2.3 set only has 5.25" disks and I didn't have a
drive (the v2.4 set has 3.5" disks).

So, if anyone wants to buy my old v2.3 set (5.25" diskettes are in a sealed
package, and includes manuals), it's available for $15 plus buyer pays shipping
(which sometimes isn't cheap  owing to the weight, but probably less than $10 in
the US).  Email me off list if interested.

In case anyone is wondering why you'd do this, with v2.4 already built-in ...
the desktop version has some additional utilities (like Printgraph), but mostly
the LX version has EMS support permanently disabled... anyone wanting to do
really BIG 123 spreadsheets on the LX (and has the RAM/disk to do it) needs the
desktop version.

And if anyone is in So Calif and want to fish for themselves, the store is

Surplus Computer Software
3301 S Harbor Blvd
Santa Ana,  CA 92704
714-751-2667

They don't do mail-orders .... and they have lots of other stuff.

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Just something I've been pondering here lately.

Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead?

I'm not sure what the user base of the 200 is, but I imagine it's fairly
large.  It seems (at least, judging by close friends who have had the 200LX
and abandoned it in favor of Palm devices and WinCE) that this user base is
diminishing rapidly, which I'm sure is because of the stagnation of hardware
and software development for the 200LX.

And I can't blame them, really.  With the palmtop's terminally dim,
non-backlit screen the only display option (the latest backlighting upgrade
rumor is nearly six months past its supposed availability date), it's nearly
impossible to see the miserable selection of Internet applications available
for the 200LX.  Not that it matters, since most modern modems draw more
power than the palmtop can supply anyway.

Not that I'm bitter. <g>  I just hate to see a unique platform like the 200
supplanted by such comparatively pathetic devices as the Palm V, whose
backlight is bad enough to make me think, "At least the 200 doesn't
pretend..", not to mention being utterly unexpandable via conventional (i.e.
CF or Type II) means.

Okay, I've gotten completely off my original topic, which was (if you
forgot) is the 200LX dead?  And, if not, where the frick is the backlight
and decent net software?

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
http://peace.hplx.net/

Movies and television are about as useful as the little condoms they used to
put 3.5" disks in.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: Point to ponder?


> Just something I've been pondering here lately.
>
> Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead?
>
> I'm not sure what the user base of the 200 is, but I imagine it's fairly
> large.  It seems (at least, judging by close friends who have had the
200LX
> and abandoned it in favor of Palm devices and WinCE) that this user base
is
> diminishing rapidly, which I'm sure is because of the stagnation of
hardware
> and software development for the 200LX.
>
> And I can't blame them, really.  With the palmtop's terminally dim,
> non-backlit screen the only display option (the latest backlighting
upgrade
> rumor is nearly six months past its supposed availability date), it's
nearly
> impossible to see the miserable selection of Internet applications
available
> for the 200LX.  Not that it matters, since most modern modems draw more
> power than the palmtop can supply anyway.
>
> Not that I'm bitter. <g>  I just hate to see a unique platform like the
200
> supplanted by such comparatively pathetic devices as the Palm V, whose
> backlight is bad enough to make me think, "At least the 200 doesn't
> pretend..", not to mention being utterly unexpandable via conventional
(i.e.
> CF or Type II) means.
>
> Okay, I've gotten completely off my original topic, which was (if you
> forgot) is the 200LX dead?  And, if not, where the frick is the backlight
> and decent net software?
>
> ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
> http://peace.hplx.net/
>
> Movies and television are about as useful as the little condoms they used
to
> put 3.5" disks in.
>
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>
*****************************
NEW MESSAGE.....

Is the 200lx dead?  Absolutely not.  The 200lx will remain viable for as
long as you (the user) want it to be.  If the windows CE machines are not to
your liking....then stay with the 200lx.   You are the master of your own
domain (I hate Seinfeld but
quote fits).  As long you and other users don't want CE machines and
continue to use the 200lx...then companies like Thaddeus will continue to
support the 200lx.  In the final analysis... it is your opinion (and your
opinion alone) as to how long the 200lx will meet your needs.  If you don't
like the CE machines or the palm machines...then you have the power in your
wallet to tell the manufacturers of CE devices and palm devices to stick
their machines where you want them stuck.. You have the power to tell these
manufactures (with your feet) that you going to stay with the 200lx  until
they come up with a device
that meets YOUR needs as determined by YOU.  Only you can determine when
that time will come.

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You can use sed, a version of which I believe is on SUPER.
Sed is smaller than Perl and easier to learn.

You would do:
   sed -n -e '/search-string-1/p' -e '/search-string-2/p' in-file >out-fil=
e

> I am looking for an idea to automatically extract two or
> more lines, which contain known substrings, from a file
> and place them into another file. The extracted lines must
> be in the original order finally.

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Stefan Lombaard wrote:
>
> It seems to be a problem with 200lx palmtops. Apparently it is due to a
> loose contact in the screen circuit board. I understand the only way of
> finding out which chip is loose is to use an outer shell with a hole in the
> back to allow you to put pressure on the various contacts / chips of the
> screen circuit board while the unit is switched on.
>
> The annoying thing is that more and more lines start to appear with time.
> Try the Thaddeus repair option.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
> > Date:    Thu, 25 May 2000 10:15:16 -0400
> > From:    Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > Subject: vertical line problem...fix?
> >
> > Thu, 25 May 2000 10:09:58 -0500 (EST)
> >
> > my 100LX has developed a severe "vertical line" problem. Pressure on
> > the left side of the screen corrects the problem. I have removed the
> > screen bezel & adjusted/tightened the torx-6 screws, but it doesn't
> > help. Any other suggestions?
>
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   Yes! my 200lx same problem. sent it to Thaddeus NO MORE PROBLEM!!
                            Bob1

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Hi, Larry.
Leo Brodie's "Starting Forth" is widely regarded as the best introduction
to the language.  I have a copy myself, and I looks quite good, but other
obligations have prevented me from spending much time learning
programming.  I am an HP reverse Polish notation calculator user from my
high school days, so forth is a logical choice of language for me.  I'm
afraid the book is out of print, but I was able to get my copy from
Powell's bookstore (www.powells.com I think).

Good luck!
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Hi, Eric.
To save memory, you can close Filer with the "close Filer" program from
the SUPER site.  Normally, the palmtop won't let you close Filer.  That
should free up quite a bit of memory.  You can close the App Manager like
you would any other program.  I remember reading on this list that X-Filer
alone takes up about the same amount of memory as Filer + App Manager.

Cheers.
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I've just replaced the DBCHECK.EXE file version 1.61 with the new version
1.7 and I noticed that the size of the file went from 14KB to 31KB. To me,
this seems like a quite considerable increase in size (maybe not for the
people routinely upgrading Microsoft software). I'm curious and would like
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On Sat, 27 May 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> A knotty problem ... tho probably nothing to the Perl folks or anyone
> who uses regular expressions.  EGREP is a freeware search filter (from
> byHeart Software) that will do the job (don't recall where I got it
> from... it's v2.0, 19k and comes with a nice text help file ... and is
> NOT the one on Simtel).  The command:
>
> "egrep -i "prt|button" win.ini > results.txt"

Or you can use perl!:

  perl -ne "/prt|button/i && print"

Of course, Perl is 300kb+, but a lot more flexible ;-)

> I also use xgrep for most searches, and it's supposed to support
> regular expressions, tho I can't seem to find a combination that works
> for it (maybe the reason I have both <g>).

There are regular expressions and then there are regular
expressions. Xgrep supports "Basic Regular Expressions" (I think that is
the official name), which do not support the OR operator. It is, however
supported by the "Extended Regular Expressions".

I think Egrep earned its name from the fact that it supports Extended
Regular Expressions.

GNU Grep also has the '|' operator and can be found on Simtel.


Cheers,

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> Then, again, I think buddy could load 123 stuff and I think that

Yes, Buddy will load 123 Files just by double-clicking from Filer, and
other files identified by their extensions will be opened in their
native application.

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Hello,

> I think the catch is that Norbert wants to catch lines
> that may contain 1 or more possible substrings.  Or
> substring-1 may be on one line and substring-2 may be
> on another ... and he'd want both to appear, and in the
> proper order.

That is exactly the problem. FIND and XGREF do not have an
OR capability, which would keep the sequence of records found.

Perl would be too much space-consuming for my 2 MB machine.

I thought of the less attractive solution of using XGREP to extract
records, with line numbers included (if it is possible), and
then using 123 (in-built) to sort the records again. But then I
could do the whole post-rocessing with 123.

Nevertheless, thanks for the pointers to EGREP or SED. These are
surely faster then 123. I will have to look for a copy.

Thanks
Norbert

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My phone book got corrupted after my battery ran flat. (my fault of course) I had tried using garlic but was unsuccessful. Can garlic be used on pdb file and if so what is the success rate


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> Dos 5.0 has a "Find" system utility;  I should have a copy here
> somewhere (Upgraded most machines to Dos 6.22 but will be bringing
one
> old 286 up as a Dos 5.0 machine for the HPLX and Poquet PC.)
>
> I haven't used it in a while but if you can find the Find program,
it's
> fairly easy to figure out <G>
>
> (Is there a Dos 5 archive out there on the net - is is
"Abandonware" now
> or does m$ still want people to pay for it?  <G>)

I keep a directory of Dos 5.0 files on my hard drive for those
occassional times when I need one for the palmtop.  I guess I can be
considered the archive for Dos 5.0.  :)

I used Dos 5.0 for years and I removed certain files that I would
never use to save space on my old 486 so this isn't complete.
Backup and Restore are gone.  I don't remember what else I might
have removed.  But I do have 41 files.

I'll be more than happy to send a copy of this to anyone on this
list since we all own 200lx's and therefore the right to use Dos 5.0
files.  Just let me know in private mail if you want it and where I
should send it.

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>>>>The files were uploaded to the CompuServe forum in 1993 by their
authors.
The files are also available on the 2000 CD Infobase (and all prior
versions).<<<<

Are you saying that the 2000 Infobase (which I have :) contains the
entire HPHAND library?

If so, wonderful.  But I'm very, very surprised.

Also, while I'm talking about that,  I'm really glad we kept going
here.  How many years has it been now?  I've had Compuserve since
probably the late 70's or early 80's, I cant really remember.  It
was fairly well established when I began, and large enough already
that I only knew a small part of it.  But I don't think I found
HPHAND till probably the early 90's.

I finally cancelled my Compuserve account about 3 months ago after a
couple of years of almost never using it.  I just didn't want to
give it up until it gave me up.

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>>>>Anyone have any favorite Forth tutorials sites or books they'd
recommend
for a total newbie?  I've got a little experience mixing ingredients
from
the Perl Cookbook to create useful utilites but that is the extent
of my
programming skills.  I've been working through the links at
forth.org but
figured others might have favorites I should check out.<<<<

This is a list of tutorials I've collected in the last couple of
years.

Barry


http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/2334/foldtree.htm
http://erwin.phys.virginia.edu/classes/551/primer.txt
http://astro.pas.rochester.edu/Forth/
http://www.albany.net/~hello/simple.htm
http://www.sunterr.demon.co.uk/header.htm
http://retro.tunes.org/fos/doc/summary.txt

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Yesterday I found a bug in DBCHECK 1.7, where an ADB file with
exceptions to recurring items, or checked-off recurring todo's, can
legally have more than one data record pointing to the same note
record. 1.7 would report this as an error. Now posted is 1.71 which
just makes sure that a referenced note exists.

My web page:
http://cameron.hplx.net   (alias)
http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/lxgames.html

or via FTP:
ftp://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/dbcheck.zip


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<<<<I've been looking for similar utilites which would work with
DOS.  I'd
like a shell or keyboard-type driver which would allow one to input
commands to DOS and its utilities via a serial key and which could
output
to an LED or PC speaker.  A search on Google found some mention of
programs aimed at disabled users but they carried price tags around
$500+
(outrageous IMHO).  I'd obviously prefer an open
source/freeware/shareware solution.>>>>

You've arroused my curiousity.  What would something like this be
used for?  If you don't mind telling.

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ian Butler wrote:
> Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead?
>
Yes, of course it's dead. It died when HP stopped making them. So what?

> ...that this user base is diminishing rapidly, which I'm sure is because
> of the stagnation of hardware and software development for the 200LX.

Hmm, maybe or maybe what those user want fits nicely with some other
platform. My Middle daughter & I are Palmtop users, my wife, son, son in
law and eldest daughter are Pilot users. My son became a pilot user
after breaking the screen on his 100lx. The pilot is better than paper
but he still misses his 100lx.
The rest of the Pilot users in my family wouldn't use a 200lx if it was
given to them. Their needs are different than mine.

> impossible to see the miserable selection of Internet applications available
> for the 200LX.  Not that it matters, since most modern modems draw more
> power than the palmtop can supply anyway.

Hmm,
I don't use the 200lx for internet very much. Sometimes I do E-mail with
it sometimes, and I'll dial on through the local library and use its
text mode browser. Once in a while. But My wife, son, son in law and
daughter, the Palm III users in my family, NEVER do e-mail or use a
browser on the internet from their Palm Pilots.


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>>>>I like Starting Forth by Leo Brodie, if you can find a copy.  He
also
had another book called Thinking Forth, that I've been unable to
find.
I don't do a lot of programming, but like Frank Sergeant's Pygmy
Forth. there's a version just for the 100/200LX palmtops on SUPER
(modified by yours truly) -- but if you're not planning on replacing
the stolen LX, that version probably isn't what you want...<<<<

I have Pygmy 1.5 registered and I have Pygmy.dow, although mine
isn't release 2.  Did Frank Seargant make release 2 or is release 2
an indication that it has your LX modifications?

In either case, will my pygmy.dow still be lined up with pygmy.scr?
If not, should I get a new pygmy.dow from Frank or do you have any
list of changes that would be helpful in lining them up?

I'm learning Ansi Forth with Quartus forth on my Palm but I'm
starting to think it's time to start using it on the LX as well, if
the confusion of learning 2 versions at the same time doesn't get in
the way.  But I think that .dow file will be pretty helpful if it'll
work.

The Palm isn't the best environment for learning Forth for a non-GUI
programmer.

Barry


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<<<<Okay, I've gotten completely off my original topic, which was
(if you
forgot) is the 200LX dead?  And, if not, where the frick is the
backlight
and decent net software?>>>>

First, the Palm 3c screen is as bright as any TFT screen and
brighter than most.  That's it's advantage, not color.  The 'hard to
see' problem is solved.  It's now just a question of generalizing
the solution.

The 200lx still has a pretty large number of users and has, I'm
sure, the largest software base of any PDA of any type.  Probably
more than all the rest put together.  Like you, I wonder if it's
dying.  But if it is it'll be a very slow death.

And maybe dying is the wrong word in the case of a system that's
this heavily used and hacked.   I read somewhere about 2 or 3 years
ago that a survey of some sort was taken that found that there are
still over 100,000 active CP/M users using their machines for
business and commercial purposes, most thinking they were the only
ones still using it.  Dying might mean disappearing from the public
eye in the case of good old computers.

As I understand it, some new stuff, both system and application
software, is still being written for such systems as the Radio Shack
Color Computer, Radio Shack Model 100, Timex Sinclair, Atari 800,
Commodore 64, et al.

And lets not forget the new Imsai II that was recently made
available.

I suspect that in the not too distant future, new computers will
become more specialized and new general purpose computers, the kind
you can enjoy hacking, will become less common.  Computers will
become appliances.  This is the direction most software and hardware
manufacturers envision and are making plans for.  When that happens
I think more and more people will be drawn to older computers.

A lot of people with tinkering mentalities are satisfied with making
macros in Word now because they don't know anything really exists
below that level.  When Word or other programs develop to the point
where they just do what you want without all that silly macro
programming :)  then some of those people will start looking for
other things to tinker with and some of them will find old
computers.

So, yeah, maybe the 200lx is dying a slow death.  But I believe it's
earned a prominant place in hacker's heaven.

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Hello,

just to report the status. I am able to use a System Macro
to sequentially load several 123 sheets and execute a 123
macro for each sheet.

An unexpected beep still occurs whenever a 123 macro is called
from System Manager, but does not cause any problem.
Interestingly, the beep does not happen if the System Macro
does other tasks, like filling cells.

The System Macro does no longer go wild (jumping to an other
application, for example) since a saved the System Macro after
creation. I do not have an explanation for this behaviour.

Just to let you know. Please apply with care because of the
potential side effects.

Regards
Norbert

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 15:59:54 -0400
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15h33m55s ago ...
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Eric Greenspoon wrote:

>  I'm trying out X-finder to be used as a replacement for Filer + =
AppManager.
> I have a few questions. How can I startup the program so that I have a
> split screen with c:\ on the left and a:\ on the right in file-detail =
view?
> How can I switch to an AppManager-type view with one keypress from this
> starting view? (and how would I return to the starting view with one
> keypress?)

Don't think you can do it EXACTLY as you describe.  AFAIK, XF always
starts in the Palmtop screen (sort of like the windoze desktop).  The
icon labeled RAMFlash in the default Palmtop setup takes you to a split
screen file viewer.  The parameters for which view is used are set in
finder.env -- the comments and docs will explain how.  You can return
to the Palmtop screen by pressing 0 (zero - not letter O).  This is the
reverse of what you really want, but it only takes one keypress to
switch either way.

> And finally, I'm finding that I have even less space for other apps to =
be
> open with X-finder (that's without using Filer or AppMan). I thought =
that
> it would be more efficient, memory-wise than the internal apps.

JP mentioned closing filer with closeflr.com.  This works fine, but
there's an easier way built into XF.  In the finder.env file look near
the end for a parameter called "opening action" and change it to look
like this:

#Opening action
%o  ,     ,$t Filer         #Close Filer on launch

This saves about 58K, and if you don't open appmgr, you have a net loss
of about 7 or 8 K with XF.  IMHO, a fair trade for the extra power.  I
also used Key200 to change the &...(More) key to start XF instead of
AppMgr.


HTH

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02h11m33s ago ...
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Barry wrote:

> I have Pygmy 1.5 registered and I have Pygmy.dow, although mine
> isn't release 2.  Did Frank Seargant make release 2 or is release 2
> an indication that it has your LX modifications?

Release 2 is my modified version (unless Frank also used the same term
for a later version...)

> In either case, will my pygmy.dow still be lined up with pygmy.scr?
> If not, should I get a new pygmy.dow from Frank or do you have any
> list of changes that would be helpful in lining them up?

With a few exceptions, pygmy.dow lines up.  I added some stuff in the
unused blocks, and may have moved a couple of things.  The editor is
fairly extensively modified, also.  I'll see what I can do about
listing any modifications.  Also there is a file of source extensions
(extend.scr) that has no corresponding .dow file.  I should write
something for that.  There is also a small library of Forth words to
use Pygmy to create progs that look and feel like the built-ins or PAL
apps.  (forthpal.zip on SUPER).  It has its own .dow file.


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Norbert Giese wrote:
> Hello,
> > I think the catch is that Norbert wants to catch lines
> > that may contain 1 or more possible substrings.  Or
> > substring-1 may be on one line and substring-2 may be
> > on another ... and he'd want both to appear, and in the
> > proper order.
>
> That is exactly the problem. FIND and XGREF do not have an
> OR capability, which would keep the sequence of records found.
>
> Perl would be too much space-consuming for my 2 MB machine.
>
> I thought of the less attractive solution of using XGREP to extract
> records, with line numbers included (if it is possible), and
> then using 123 (in-built) to sort the records again. But then I
> could do the whole post-rocessing with 123.
>
> Nevertheless, thanks for the pointers to EGREP or SED. These are
> surely faster then 123. I will have to look for a copy.
>
> Thanks
> Norbert
>
> --
> Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen

You know, my usual solution for this sorta thing has been to write a
quick once-off Turbo Pascal program, usually - Another thought for you
<G>  Grep2.com would be a good name =)

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Norbert,

> > I think the catch is that Norbert wants to catch lines
> > that may contain 1 or more possible substrings.  Or
> > substring-1 may be on one line and substring-2 may be
> > on another ... and he'd want both to appear, and in the
> > proper order.
>
> That is exactly the problem. FIND and XGREF do not have an
> OR capability, which would keep the sequence of records found.
>
> Perl would be too much space-consuming for my 2 MB machine.
>
> I thought of the less attractive solution of using XGREP to extract
> records, with line numbers included (if it is possible), and
> then using 123 (in-built) to sort the records again. But then I
> could do the whole post-rocessing with 123.
>
> Nevertheless, thanks for the pointers to EGREP or SED. These are
> surely faster then 123. I will have to look for a copy.

I use XGREP and PalEdit to find string occurances (no OR operator). I
have a macro assigned to Alt-N to navigate me through all occurances -
I think it is mentioned in the doc's of PE. Quite fast.



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Barry wrote:
> > Dos 5.0 has a "Find" system utility;  I should have a copy here
> > somewhere (Upgraded most machines to Dos 6.22 but will be bringing
> one
> > old 286 up as a Dos 5.0 machine for the HPLX and Poquet PC.)
> >
> > I haven't used it in a while but if you can find the Find program,
> it's
> > fairly easy to figure out <G>
> >
> > (Is there a Dos 5 archive out there on the net - is is
> "Abandonware" now
> > or does m$ still want people to pay for it?  <G>)
>
> I keep a directory of Dos 5.0 files on my hard drive for those
> occassional times when I need one for the palmtop.  I guess I can be
> considered the archive for Dos 5.0.  :)
>
> I used Dos 5.0 for years and I removed certain files that I would
> never use to save space on my old 486 so this isn't complete.
> Backup and Restore are gone.  I don't remember what else I might
> have removed.  But I do have 41 files.
>
> I'll be more than happy to send a copy of this to anyone on this
> list since we all own 200lx's and therefore the right to use Dos 5.0
> files.  Just let me know in private mail if you want it and where I
> should send it.
>
> Barry

Barry, send me a directory listing when you get to it & I'll get you any
missing files that I have that you don't & might want.  Dedicating the
old 386sx16 mini box to this, think it's already a Dox 5 box <G>

People who wish can ask me for Dos 5 files as well off-list, when online
I can usually just attach and send.  Need to go get a router going here
<G>

  Mark

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 22:38:55 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote:
> After some more testing the Nokia 8210 only seems to work
> reliable at 38400 baud concerning email, html and news.
>
> Email with POST/LX also works at lower baud rates, but not news
> and html. Don't ask me why, but if the 8210 swallows whole
> lines at lower baud rates than 38400, I'm not surprised...
>
> I switched now back to 38400 and ignore the "overrun errors".

>
> BTW, the 7110 doesn't show different behaviour according to the
> selected baud rate, therefore I doubt it's a WWW/LX problem.

Maybe its not WWW/lx fault but www/lx could be the solution :> instead.
>

Is it true that You have the IR-LED grounded? If so. Have You noticed
any significant improvement from doing that.(or significant backdraws?)

What distance do You keep between HP200lx and Nokia 8210?
I sometimes have a hard time getting a connection to my ISP.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 22:04:05 +0000
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 <<My phone book got corrupted after my battery ran flat. (my fault of
course) I had tried using garlic but was unsuccessful. Can garlic be
used on pdb file and if so what is the success rate>>

I don't know the answer but it sometimes will not work.

The only real other suggestion now would be to manually take apart and
piece together a workable version of your file.

First create a new empty phone book.  Open Your bad file or better a
copy in MEMO and slowly cut and paste useable data from MEMO into the
fields of the new phonebook.  It will be tedious but might help you get
a lot of data back.

Good luck

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 16:42:52 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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Barry asked:
>>Are you saying that the 2000 Infobase (which I have :) contains the entire
HPHAND library?<<

Don't think so.

I should have said the files _you asked about_ are on the CD. The same files
were also uploaded to CSi. There are several files on CSi that are not on
the CD. There are many more files on the CD that are not on CSi.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 12:03:03 -0700
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              Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
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Thanks for the info.  Someone else had mentioned in an old PTP that they had
been running Cakewalk 4.0, and that it ran fine except when playing very
large sequences.

I found a copy of Cakewalk 5.0 so hopefully it'll work as well.  Perhaps the
LX will become known as a reliable sequencing solution for live performance
& we will soon look forward to attending electronic music concerts where
the performer stands onstage with just a palmtop and a long serial cable <g>

Next we'll need a MIDI interface that works through the IR port...


:DC


On 05-27 02:24am PDT, you wrote:

> Yes, you can control midi devices via the serial port of the hp200lx.
> I use mine with an old dos version of cakewalk to edit or to create midi
> files with a midi keyboard linked to the palmtop via a midi interface (a K
> Midiator) and to play them through a Yamaha expander. When I need only the
> playback function, I connect directly the hp to the expander with a serial
> cable.
> Rakoto
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:15 PM
> Subject: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?
>
>
> > I recently bought some MIDI software for DOS and am now very curious to
> know
> > if it will run on the LX.
> >
> > What I would like to do is connect a MIDI interface to COM1.  The
> > MIDI transmission speed for PC compatibles I believe is 38.4 kbps, but I
> > seem to recall discussion on the list saying the COM1 UART speed is
> limited,
> > which is why no modem faster than 14.4k can be used on COM1.
> >
> > It also seems to me that I transfer files to & from my desktop computer
> > 57600 through COM1, however.
> >
> > Sorry if I'm out to lunch.  Can anyone clarify this, or has anyone used
> LX
> > to control MIDI devices?
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > 200LX in Vancouver
> >
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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 20:28:02 -0400
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              Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
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Hi James,

>To save memory, you can close Filer with the "close Filer" program from
>the SUPER site.  Normally, the palmtop won't let you close Filer.  That
>should free up quite a bit of memory.  You can close the App Manager like
>you would any other program.

  Yes I use the Close Filer program already and also close App Manager
while using XFinder. I still seem to be running out of memory quite often.
I thought XFinder would benefit me by saving memory.


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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 22:08:04 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> > I have been having trouble with my 32 Meg drive.
> > I was hoping that others might have some insight
> > or ideas.  When I use a PCMCIA modem, I tend to
> > get corruption of my 32 Meg drive only.

Latest update:

I downloaded new copies of WWW/LX, Post/LX, acCIS 4.0 online.exe, the double
speed driver, Tremm, and the Times 2 Tech 32 Meg drive program.  I re-formatted
the 32 Meg drive and installed all of these with the configuration files I had
been using on the 1.4 Meg drive.  I also installed SC version 7 (I had been
using version 6 until now).

So far, things seem to be working.  I keep running chkdsk after almost any
activity and haven't had any problems so far.

Thanks to everyone for all of the input.

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 22:08:06 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> I've just replaced the DBCHECK.EXE file version 1.61 with the new version
> 1.7 and I noticed that the size of the file went from 14KB to 31KB.

I got my copy of dbcheck v1.7 down to 15K using Diet.

I am pleased with it in any case.  It found some errors in two appt files that
had escaped previous versions.  The files are old *.adb files from 1995 and
1996. The errors were present even in my backups from April 1998.  I just spent
over an hour tracking the problem down to some ToDos.

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 02:42:16 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Is it true that You have the IR-LED grounded? If so. Have You noticed
> any significant improvement from doing that.(or significant backdraws?)

I first want to say that I'm not picking on this as all of you
NON-Native English users are incredibly proficient at English.  You
would not want to see what I would do with German.  I just liked the
example of "backdraws!" (g)  It provided a needed chuckle as I sit
around with my broken foot reading email and hplist.  It is correctly
"drawbacks"

Fred

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 23:10:46 -0400
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> Yesterday I found a bug in DBCHECK 1.7, where an ADB file with
> exceptions to recurring items, or checked-off recurring todo's, can
> legally have more than one data record pointing to the same note
> record. 1.7 would report this as an error. Now posted is 1.71 which
> just makes sure that a referenced note exists.

You mean that those two old *.adb files I spent time dissecting today were
really fine?!? I do apprecitate your program, even if the bug did cost me some
extra effort today.  It also found a real error in one of my critical databases
that I fixed without difficulty, so I am happy overall.

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 22:59:01 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: DBCheck Version 1.7
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Steve Carder wrote:
>> I've just replaced the DBCHECK.EXE file version 1.61 with the new version
>> 1.7 and I noticed that the size of the file went from 14KB to 31KB.
>
>I got my copy of dbcheck v1.7 down to 15K using Diet.

Yes, I had compressed version 1.61 before distributing it. I sent out
1.7 without compressing it. Version 1.71 is also now distributed
compressed already. I don't use DIET anymore, but use COMPACK
(available from SUPER) because I found it compressed a little more. It
is more of a pain to use, because it requires you to specify a
different-named output file, so I created a batch file:

echo off
if exist \bin\tmp.exe del \bin\tmp.exe
\bin\compack %1 \bin\tmp.exe
if errorlevel 1 goto error
copy \bin\tmp.exe %1
echo Compack of %1 successful
goto end
:error
echo Error compacking file %1
:end

>I am pleased with it in any case.  It found some errors in two appt files that
>had escaped previous versions.  The files are old *.adb files from 1995 and
>1996. The errors were present even in my backups from April 1998.  I just spent
>over an hour tracking the problem down to some ToDos.

Of course, you've now discovered that some of these were bogus reports
of corruption, which was fixed in 1.71. Sorry!

-Curtis

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Date:         Sun, 28 May 2000 23:04:06 -0700
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F. Kaufman wrote:
>The only real other suggestion now would be to manually take apart and
>piece together a workable version of your file.
>
>First create a new empty phone book.  Open Your bad file or better a
>copy in MEMO and slowly cut and paste useable data from MEMO into the
>fields of the new phonebook.  It will be tedious but might help you get
>a lot of data back.

The DBCHECK program, with the "/dn" switch, will output into a text
file every data item and note it can find, without having to wade
through binary characters.

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 00:17:26 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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David Ness wrote:
>Old versions of Perl 4 do work fine on the 200, but some timing tests might
>be in order before committing much work to any 200 based perl process as
>it may run quite slow.

I recently used Perl 4 on my LX phone database, to change area codes
for a bunch of people with a certain phone prefix. I used GDBDUMP to
export the LX file to a text file, ran a command-line Perl script,
then GDBLOADed the data back in.

My LX database contains over 1000 names (the text file was 180 KB),
and probably 200 of those needed to be converted. The command line
was:

 perl -pe "s/\(972\) 480/\(214\) 480/g" < indata.txt >outdata.txt

Perl ran this in nine seconds on my DS 200LX. I think this performance
is pretty good! It runs the script in a lot less time than it takes to
type it in. And *way* less time than it took to GDBDUMP the data out,
which was about ten minutes.

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 01:20:24 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I agree with you on the backlighting point. Even when/if it becomes
available it will be a relatively expensive upgrade. I also like how the new
CE devices have a voice recorder. I find the one on my Nino very useful.
I've heard of someone that built a voice recorder for the lx but it was a
'mad scientist' experiment. Another thing that starts to make LX look shabby
is the lack of any good wireless options. It looks like ricochet may be nice
if it ever goes nationwide.

I'd have to disagree on the Internet software point, though. I think that
the software options are very good and a lot of talented people can be
thanked for that. The guys at D&A do great job on the high end and the
POST/LX and wattcp type programs are excellent freeware alternatives.
Nettamer is also a great shareware product, although very limited because of
its closed stack.
>
>Just something I've been pondering here lately.
>
>Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead?
>
>I'm not sure what the user base of the 200 is, but I imagine
>it's fairly
>large.  It seems (at least, judging by close friends who have
>had the 200LX
>and abandoned it in favor of Palm devices and WinCE) that this
>user base is
>diminishing rapidly, which I'm sure is because of the
>stagnation of hardware
>and software development for the 200LX.
>
>And I can't blame them, really.  With the palmtop's terminally dim,
>non-backlit screen the only display option (the latest
>backlighting upgrade
>rumor is nearly six months past its supposed availability
>date), it's nearly
>impossible to see the miserable selection of Internet
>applications available
>for the 200LX.  Not that it matters, since most modern modems draw more
>power than the palmtop can supply anyway.
>
snipt

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 02:51:18 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Point to ponder?
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I do not agree with your premise.

> I'm not sure what the user base of the 200 is, but I imagine it's fairly
> large.  It seems (at least, judging by close friends who have had the 200LX
> and abandoned it in favor of Palm devices and WinCE) that this user base is
> diminishing rapidly, which I'm sure is because of the stagnation of hardware
> and software development for the 200LX.

There are still many machines bein bought (and sold) to new
users who buy hardware and software. It is not dead, but it
is getting smaller.

The most disagreement I have with the statement about
stagnation in development of hardware and software. From my
perspective, there is no slowdown at all in terms of new
stuff, and/or updating existing s/w by adding new features.

Since November last year, I heard of three new types of
hardware that people made to work with the palmtops. I
could swear it was a faster rate than in prior times
(pre-November and prior to the time when HP ceased to
manufacture these babies...) but I did not track it with
sufficient attention to prove it :-) ...

As any mature platform, this one too is going through a
stability phase, where the market diminishes some because
people are lured by newer technology. At the same time,
this is the phase when new people join because the platform
has some strong points to offer to them.

It think that if the rate of joins is sufficient, there
will be sufficient market to create "things" for the
market, and in any case, new technology will always be
subject to trial - does this work with my 200LX?

Last point: You stated that the new modems are generally
drawing too much jouice. I believe that you have not
checked the facts. If anything, when the 56Kb modems came
out, at first they drew a lot, but successive generations
found better combinations of electronic components and the
draw has benn actually declining. We saw this with the 33.6
modems - at first they drew 350, and now there are three
that draw less than 150mAh (I have two of these). The 28.8
modems exhibited the same development cycle, albeit they
were quickly supplanted by 33.6 modems.

The 56kb modem Thaddeus sells draws substantially less than
150mAh. There are some 56Kb CF modems out now too and they
draw less than 120mAh.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 15:40:31 +0800
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I remembered that there was a Chinese word editor porgram specific for
palmtop, but I can't find it anywhere now. I would be very much appreicated
if anyone could give me some hints of that. And what other chinese software
I could use it on my 200lx?

Thanks in advance!

Dannis Chan

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 09:27:37 +0200
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              Klopper Donald <KlopperD@DWAF.PWV.GOV.ZA>
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No.

I believe that the template file came with the OL2HP installation, and not
from the HP LX.

The template file that I have is dated 14/4/1993, 22:04 (template.adb).

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

     o__
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carla Ruigh ÝSMTP:swngdncr@garlic.com¨
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:09 PM
> To:   Klopper Donald
> Cc:   'HPLX Mailing List'
> Subject:      Re: Ol2lx file crashes 200lx
>
> Thanks for the suggestions Donald,  the templete might be the problem.  I
> presume the templete file is in the 200LX?  I don't know what MS IE5 is,
> but I
> am using Outlook 98.   I'll double check the version of HP-LX I am using,
> maybe
> I downloaded an old one.  Unfortunately, I can't mess w/this again till
> Tuesday
> because I left my connection cable at work, and I'm off for the weekend,
> and
> work isn't close. .   C'est la vie...  Thanks  -Carla-
>

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Amazing how the LX's DOS 5 does not regularly cause the blue screen of
death.
I attribute that to the fact that my LX does not display colours.

I have since decided to swop my 17" LG Studioworks for a 12" Amber screen:
I'm still
having trouble with the pin-out configuration change between my 8Mb ATI Rage
3D card
and the mono screen, but I'm convinced if I start using the Amber screen it
will be
impossible to get those silly blue screens. I've seen some black screens of
death
too - I don't know whether they are related. I will let you know.....

:-P

-----------------
Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc)
Delphi Analyst/Programmer
BHIS Consulting
Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria
Tel: +27 12 336-7256
Cell:+27 82 468-7480
klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard E. McEvoy ÝSMTP:remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE¨
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:56 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: gloom&doom
>
> Dear Dr. Nathalie,
>
> I'm sure we're all grateful for your analysis of the symptoms of these
> deadly
> contemporary viruses. If in difficulty, may we ask you for a diagnosis?
> Assuming
> you are equally competent in the field of bacteria (bugs, in the
> vernacular), I
> could also do with some diagnostic help when something totally unwarranted
> happens my Windows at least once or twice per week -:)
>
> Richard
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 11:25:40 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: IR to a Pentax PocketJet Printer problem
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Hi Cliff,

On Sat, 27 May 2000 13:23:01 -0400, Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG> wrote:

> LXSTAT W I
> d:\dos\mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
> d:\dos\mode lpt1=com1

For all these settings, you need just one program: Stefan Peichl's
'SETCOM1'. Download it from peichl.hplx.net.

It sets the comport to whatever you want (any speed, any line
(IR/wired), any data bit setting...).
What it does not is to redirect the lpt to com. but I think this is
hard-wired in the LX, since I don't use any redirection command on my
LX and I can print to LPT1 or PRN even without redirection! So you only
have to set the com port to 9600,n,8,1,IR etc. with SETCOM1.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 21:31:40 +1200
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My 2 cent's worth:

There are currently no effective replacement for the 200lx in terms of:

-DOS compatibility which means hundreds of readily available software
including a variety of compilers & documentation
-Pocket size
-Long battery life
-Ability to use standard Type II PC card (proprietary cards are inevitable
very expensive)

Neither Win CE, Palm nor Psion offer all these features.

In addition to the usual features of a palmtop type computer ie address
book, database, notepad
etc., the ability to run old dos programs is a very usefull feature. For
instance in my case: I am an anaesthetic registrar and use a program called
"stanpump" to model anaesthetic infusions during an anaesthetic. (This gives
a calculated blood concentration which is an indication of anaesthetic
depth.) I cannot afford to run this under Win CE with a DOS emulator due to
the risk of  it crashing half way through due to some unexpected interaction
from another program.
I also have a program that allows me to extract physiological information
from the anaesthetic machine using the serial port. I could program this
with the help of freely available source code for serial communications from
Simtel. It seems that it would be significant undertaking doing this on Win
CE / Psion - correct me if I'm wrong.
I can alter & recompile these programs on the spot & it can run without
modification on the latest Pentium notebook. Sure, Psion offers OPL, however
this means getting to grips with another language (after barely being able
to help myself in c++) and spending money on extra books etc. Then I would
also not be able to run it on any other platform.

Ease of use is a significant factor - my wife is very enthusiastic about her
Palm with it's "one button sync". She certainly could not care less about
programming the thing. Unfortunately ease of use comes at the expense of
versatility....
Until the unlikely event of someone developing a 386 or 486 based palmtop,
the HP200LX is not dead.

Stefan

> Date:    Sat, 27 May 2000 20:30:47 -0700
> From:    ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
> Subject: Point to ponder?
>
> Just something I've been pondering here lately.
>
> Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead?
>........
>
> ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
> http://peace.hplx.net/
>
> Movies and television are about as useful as the little condoms they used
to
> put 3.5" disks in.
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 03:11:18 PDT
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Yes, If 200LX can take control some my equip, that must be
excellent handy solution for live. But that midi transfer
rate too slow (can't match midi time, even 2-3 channel pattern change)
especially when u using HUGE program like cakewalk 4 run on 80186 cpu.

old info:
http://www.mclink.it/audio/audiocre/stport/scp-55.htm
Maybe it is only one sound module can working on 200LX.
Japanese Sour23, they write enabler for scp-55 working on
200lx, and successful using this 360mh card by modification.

if u have find any update pls LMK! :-)


------------------------------

Date:    Sun, 28 May 2000 12:03:03 -0700
From:    Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
Subject: Re: COM1 fast enough for MIDI?

Thanks for the info.  Someone else had mentioned in an old PTP that they had
been running Cakewalk 4.0, and that it ran fine except when playing very
large sequences.

I found a copy of Cakewalk 5.0 so hopefully it'll work as well.  Perhaps the
LX will become known as a reliable sequencing solution for live performance
& we will soon look forward to attending electronic music concerts where
the performer stands onstage with just a palmtop and a long serial cable <g>

Next we'll need a MIDI interface that works through the IR port...


:DC


On 05-27 02:24am PDT, you wrote:

>Yes, you can control midi devices via the serial port of the hp200lx.
>I use mine with an old dos version of cakewalk to edit or to create midi
>files with a midi keyboard linked to the palmtop via a midi interface (a K
>Midiator) and to play them through a Yamaha expander. When I need only the
>playback function, I connect directly the hp to the expander with a serial
>cable.
>Rakoto
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:15 PM
>Subject: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?
>
>
> > I recently bought some MIDI software for DOS and am now very curious to
>know
> > if it will run on the LX.
> >
> > What I would like to do is connect a MIDI interface to COM1.  The
> > MIDI transmission speed for PC compatibles I believe is 38.4 kbps, but I
> > seem to recall discussion on the list saying the COM1 UART speed is
>limited,
> > which is why no modem faster than 14.4k can be used on COM1.
> >
> > It also seems to me that I transfer files to & from my desktop computer
> > 57600 through COM1, however.
> >
> > Sorry if I'm out to lunch.  Can anyone clarify this, or has anyone used
>LX
> > to control MIDI devices?
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > 200LX in Vancouver
> >
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On Monday, 29.05.2000 at 08:34 GMT, Roger S. wrote:
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>
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> dSBvZmYgdGhlIGxpc3QuDQoNClJvZ2VyIFMuDQo=
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Which Chinese editor did you use to produce this text?

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 13:37:56 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Subject:      Re: Nokia 8210 only works reliable at 38400 baud
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Tomas =01 Moberg wrote:

> Is it true that You have the IR-LED grounded? If so. Have You noticed
> any significant improvement from doing that.(or significant backdraws?)

I had the IR-LED grounded but removed it recently after finding
out, that it didn't work in the sun. It only worked in closed
rooms. Diffuse sunlight seemed to disable the grounded palmtop
IR-LED completely. Without the grounded IR it works ok, but
indeed the EMI errors reappeared.

> What distance do You keep between HP200lx and Nokia 8210?
> I sometimes have a hard time getting a connection to my ISP.

I can use it from 0 cm to about 30 cm without problem.

Stefan

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 08:04:00 EDT
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A couple of years ago I put together a site with info on how to get a free
copy of ACT! for HP Palmtops.

For some reason this site is still up, even though I am not subscribed to
that service any longer.

If you are interested, you might want to check out the following, before the
site goes down:

http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/200lxinfo.htm

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On 9 May 2000, "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> wrote:

> Do you honestly beleive that Gates uses all the features in even
> ONE of MS' programs? Yet they add more features. The only
> reason MS products are popular is that MS TOLD the users that
> they NEEDED these features, not the other way around, it is called
> MARKETING. Now all the people that were perfectly happy with
> something like Office 97 are being TOLD that they NEED all the
> new features of Office 2000. Of course these are the same people
> that only use about 10% of the features in the current version.

I disagree. In fact, I have seen very few advertisements for MS
Office. The driver for Office upgrades is that a few people who
just MUST have the very latest of whatever there is, upgrade as
soon as MS brings out a new version of anything. Then they
start distributing documents, presentations and spreadsheets
that satisfied users of the older Office suites cannot read,
since MS has made the file formats incompatible between
versions. So, then the rest of us are forced to upgrade just so
we can continue to share documents.

Vic Roberts

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 10:41:56 -0400
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The thing to consider when trying to choose between an
internal RAM upgrade and just using a flash card is whether
you want to use a PCMCIA modem also.  If you have all of your
programs and data on the flash card, then you don't have any
of that available when you pull out the flashcard to put in
the modem.

But if you don't _NEED_ to use a PCMCIA modem, then the
flashcard "upgrade" makes the most sense for the reasons you
gave.

There is a similar argument if you _NEED_ to use a network
card, then it is almost essential you have the internal RAM
upgrade.

As for the disadvantages of the flashcard, there really are
none.  The "slow" issue with flashcards is one from long ago.
Current technology cards are just as fast as the internal RAM.
 Don't worry about it.  Of course, battery life will be
affected slightly because you are powering more electronics,
but not enough to be a problem.  An internal RAM upgrade would
reduce battery life also.  Don't worry about it.

A real advantage to having a flashcard is that it is
non-volitile, meaning that it does not need power to hold the
storage, so if you have a battery crash, the flashcard won't
forget anything, unlike the internal RAM.  Also, the flashcard
is removable and very small, so it makes a good security
measure for your programs and data.  I carry the palmtop on my
belt 90% if the time, but when I cannot carry the palmtop, I
have the flashcard in my pocket.  My data (which is far more
valuable than the hardware) is always safe with me.

Personally, I only use Sandisk Type II flashcards and Compact
Flash cards.  I have never had a failure or incompatability or
unusual power drain with a Sandisk card.


Stan

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I have a sticker on the bottom of my 200LX with my name, phone
numbers, Email addrsss and a mention of a reward.  This way it
is always in plain sight no matter what.

Also, when I am going to leave the palmtop in the car or
someplace where it could get stolen, I always take my
flashcard with me.  All of the data and programs and backups
are on card so I keep it safe with me.


Stan

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Victor Roberts writes:

> versions. So, then the rest of us are forced to upgrade just so
> we can continue to share documents.

Excellent point!  This is by far the most important reason we have
upgraded at my place of employment.

Ted

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>>>>Leo Brodie's "Starting Forth" is widely regarded as the best
introduction
to the language.  I have a copy myself, and I looks quite good, but
other
obligations have prevented me from spending much time learning
programming.<<<<<

I'd like to suggest that this book is worth reading even if you have
no interest in Forth.  It's delightful.  Possibly the best and most
creative computer book ever written.  Certainly the most unusual.
It probably should be grouped with "Flatland" and "The Little
Prince".

Barry

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<<> and the mono screen, but I'm convinced if I start using the Amber
screen it will be impossible to get those silly blue screens. I've seen
some black screens of death too - I don't know whether they are related.
I will let you know.....>>

Ahhhhhhhhhh, it is Memorial Day isn't it?  Not April Fool's Day! (G)

I still like the "pr" piece that was going around that said Steve Balmer
was finally going to sell advertising on the Blue Screen of Death since
it was the most conspicuous screen in all of Windows.  "This Blue Screen
of death is brought to you by Sears!"  Or better yet:  This Blue Screen
of Death is brought to you by Windows Mortuary

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>>>>Barry, send me a directory listing when you get to it & I'll get
you any
missing files that I have that you don't & might want.  Dedicating
the
old 386sx16 mini box to this, think it's already a Dox 5 box <G><<<<

Thanks for the offer but the ones I got rid of are ones I just never
would use anyway.  Of course you never know if that will change, but
I have the original Dos 5 shrinkwrapped disks somewhere and I
probably could find some computer to install it on if I really
needed it.

Barry

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Recently I installed Windows 2000. The network driver from Rod Whitby's
web.

NETBEUI as well as IPX are working fine.

Thanks to Rod Whitby and also to Mack Baggette and Stefan Peichl, who
provided the necessary driver and software (lxcic and lxether).

Looks like a good investment!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Hello group.   I have read with surprise recent posts of people printing
with
IR to a Citizen and to a Pentax portable printers.  I though that could
not be
done outside of an HP printer with IR.  So this brings an old, unanswered
question:  Has anyone succesfully printed to a Cannon Portable printer
with the IR port of the HPLX?

TIA

Domingo

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On Sat, 27 May 2000 11:24:57 +0200 rakotor <rakotor@INFONIE.FR> writes:
> Yes, you can control midi devices via the serial port of the hp200lx.
> I use mine with an old dos version of cakewalk to edit or to create
midi
> files with a midi keyboard linked to the palmtop via a midi  interface
(a Key
> Midiator) and to play them through a Yamaha expander.

Hi.  Do you happen to know if your version of cakewalk for DOS includes
a note entry view in standard music notation?  I believe I have seen it
and others asure me of the same, but I cannot find it.

TIA

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On Fri, 26 May 2000 21:10:25 -0400 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>
writes:
> Fri, 26 May 2000 19:13:14 -0400 (EDT)
> 01h07m46s ago ...
> On Fri, 26 May 2000, D Dv wrote:
>
> > Hi.  Anyone understands how to change the palmtop screen order,
> > so as to have it present the RAM/FLASH button first, for example?
>
> If you have XF R.10 or one of the R.11 betas, it's pretty easy.

Thanks for your answer.  Just one more question on Xfinder:
The latest version has a fake mouse pointer going along with the cursor.
Do you happen to know how to turn it off? I find it annoying.

TIA

Domingo

P.S.  BTW, what does HTH mean?

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On Sat, 27 May 2000 08:21:44 -0400 Brian McIlvaine
<Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM> writes:
> FFDB 2.0 is available from hplx.net in the downloads sections. If
> anyone wants a copy of the source code, let me know. FFDB 2.0 is
freeware, uses
> InfoSelect compatible files, and runs as an exm program under system
manager.

Hi again.   Did you ever receive my little bug report?  If not, I am
forward it again below.
I would be interested to know if after following this you are  not able
to duplicate it.

Domingo


>>> Forwarded section:  <<<<



On FRI, 28 APR 2000 21:32:04 -0400 Brian.McIlvaine@unbounded.com writes:
> Domingo -
>
> loaded the file and it worked fine. You'll have to tell me exactly
> what thee failure is and exactly how it happened. I can't tell from
this
> description.

Sorry, I'll try again:

1-Load the program with the FFDB.WD file I sent.
2-Press Fn-right arrow (end) to go the last note
3-On that note, which should start with *grandview, press F3
4-In edit, press F3 to go to the botton of the note
5-At the bottom you will see the following lines from note 2,
which don't belong in this note:

16.  Up to 650 notes per file
17.  Up to 32k bytes per note

Please press down arrow or right arrow to move to the next note

I'll be glad if this happens only on my palmtop!
Also, the original note is truncate at the point the above wrong text
shows up.

Domingo

P.S.  Before I sent this text I decided to retest the problem and
discovered the following:
1-The above error only ocurs in the second zooming level.
2-In small font, the text gets truncated after the second page (it's 14
pages long)
3-I went back to the second level and the text is still 2 pages long
4-Same with the 3rd zooming level
5-I exited the program, restarted it, and was able to reproduce #1 above,
as long as I
did not zoom.  As soon as I did, it truncated the text to 2 pages.
6-I loaded the text to memo in each of the above examples, and it looked
the same as
displayed in FFDB.
7-I cold booted, reinstalled the program (after saving the modified
FFDB.WD), removed
the ffdb.env from c:_dat, removed all TSR's except moreexm, same results.
8-I exported the entire FFDB.WD to a text file (apparently it doesn't
export just one note),
and, surprise, the text of *grandview is all there, uncorrupted!

Now how is that for extensive beta testing!   :-)

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On Mon, 29 May 2000 13:54:49 -0400 D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> writes:
> Hi again.   Did you ever receive my little bug report?  If not, I am
> forward it again below.

Oops!!  Sorry, this was meant as a private email.

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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:05:48 -0400
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From: h.tieleman@planet.nl (H.Tieleman)


Subscriber Comments: I'm using a HP LX95 organiser and I would like to
import/export my Outlookfiles. How is this to be done? Once I was
'close' by using a mntellink-program but I lost it. I don't mind making
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I'm putting the finishing touches on a LXB script (which may be of
interest to thouse of you who write daily medical progress notes), but I
need to be able to perform some simple math from within the script.

I would like to keep it as simple as possible for the simple math.  But I
need to be able to have a few decimal places.

I'm fairly new to DOS, so if there is something that I am missing, perhaps
some kind soul could enlighten me.

Thanks!

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I use it place of notes because it's a bit easier to use for me. What's new
or fixed in this version?

----------
>From: Brian McIlvaine <Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: FFDB 2.0
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:21:44 -0400
>

> All-
>
> FFDB is a simple note based database that allows for searching for a given
> string inside all of the notes. It is a little more useful than the notes
> databse, in my opinion
>
> FFDB 2.0 is available from hplx.net in the downloads sections. If anyone wants
> a copy of the source code, let me know. FFDB 2.0 is freeware, uses InfoSelect
> compatible files, and runs as an exm program under system manager.
>
> Thanks to hplx.net folks for putting it up.
>
> Brian
>
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I'm an avid Scrabble fan and so was excited recently to get hold of a copy
of the Virgin Mastertronics Scrabble for CGA-level machines. Unfortunately
even with CGAHLP, I can't really read the screen. Anyone out in HPLX-land
know how to make this program usable?


THANKS!

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On Tue, 30 May 2000 07:43:14 +0900 Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
writes:
> I use it place of notes because it's a bit easier to use for me.
> What's new or fixed in this version?

If you are familiar with the japanese program FIT, then it is like FIT
with growth hormones.  Each note is a separate, resizable window.
While windows are supposed to be able to go up to 32k, I am having
some trouble with windows much bigger than two pages.  This program
is best used with notes not much larger than one page (so as not to have
to scroll down a lot)..   The reason for the increased capacity is
compatibility with InfoSelect, which it mimics quite well.  The super
large
windows seem best left to InfoSelect itself (file format is compatible
with
InfoSelect, and *not* with the previous version, AFAIK.
Program is much faster than the original.   I am not sure why the author
is giving up on it.  It is a much more powerful program than before.  Try
it!

Domingo

P.S.  Brian is being quite modest with the statement below.  His
program is faster than the notes database, and a *lot* more useful,
IMNSHO.

> >From: Brian McIlvaine <Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
> > string inside all of the notes. It is a little more useful than
> the notes databse, in my opinion
> >
> > FFDB 2.0 is available from hplx.net in the downloads sections. If

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Brian,

I love it already. I had tried FFDB 1.0 but never really
used it. I also have an old windows version of InfoSelect,
tried but never used.  I d/led the new ffdb nd reinstalled
my old windows version of Info select. I then gathered up
the misc notes (some paper, some text files on the palmtop,
or laptop, some notes in appt book). I spent a couple of
hours entering the data and I am delighted.

I tend to gather info when I'm out and about then have to
use it at home. So having a program for each platform that
can read the same file is great.

Brian McIlvaine wrote:
> ...uses InfoSelect compatible files,

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Hi,

If you check up http://www.parallax-research.com/liteprint3s.html , they
have a product called LitePrint3S which could possibly enable printing by
IR to any printer.

They have another product called LitePrint at
http://www.parallax-research.com/liteprint.html which seem to be able to
connect to both the desktop PC and at the same time enable IR printing.

A HP100/200LX Palmtop PC IrDA Driver is available for download at
http://www.parallax-research.com/technical.html

At 01:47 PM 5/29/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello group.   I have read with surprise recent posts of people printing
>with
>IR to a Citizen and to a Pentax portable printers.  I though that could
>not be
>done outside of an HP printer with IR.  So this brings an old, unanswered
>question:  Has anyone succesfully printed to a Cannon Portable printer
>with the IR port of the HPLX?
>
>TIA
>
>Domingo
>

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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WTB: Connectivity pack s/w
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Ed,
  What is your address. I have two Connectivity Kits, and of course, two sets of
the software. I will send it to you. They are the legal, original diskettes.
Just let me know. I don't mind sharing when I can.

William E. Blankenship

Ed Padin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to buy the software from the 200lx connectivity pack.

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 21:48:17 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> Subscriber Comments: I'm using a HP LX95 organiser and I would like to
> import/export my Outlookfiles. How is this to be done?

I have not tried this, but it might work.  First convert your 95lx files to
100LX/200LX format using a 100LX or 200LX (or the connectivity pack may do this
too).  Then visit http://cameron.hplx.net for information about converting the
100LX/200LX files to Outlook.  This would be a one-way process, since I don't
know of any way to convert 100LX/200LX files back to 95LX format.  You could
get a 200LX <g>

Steve Carder

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 22:47:04 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> I'm putting the finishing touches on a LXB script (which may be of
> interest to thouse of you who write daily medical progress notes), but I
> need to be able to perform some simple math from within the script.

What sort of progress notes does your script produce?  I am a Family Practice
physician and might find your script useful.

Steve Carder MD (Family Practice)

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 23:16:09 -0400
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              dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: IR to a Canon Portable  Printer
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------Original Message------
From: Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 30, 2000 1:26:00 AM GMT
Subject: Re: IR to a Canon Portable  Printer


<<< Hi,

If you check up
http://www.parallax-research.com/liteprint3s.html , they
have a product called LitePrint3S which could possibly
enable printing by
IR to any printer.

They have another product called LitePrint at
http://www.parallax-research.com/liteprint.html which seem
to be able to
connect to both the desktop PC and at the same time enable
IR printing.  >>>>

These products are intended for the IRDA standard.  The
palmtop follows the SIR standard.  The IRDA can be provided
with special drivers.  The question is whether the existing
drivers would work with the  Cannon printer.  IIRC, the HP
printers recognize SIR.  Not sure about the others.

<<<  A HP100/200LX Palmtop PC IrDA Driver is available for
download at http://www.parallax-research.com/technical.html
>>>

The same driver is at SUPER, and it's intended, AFAIK, for
the HP printers.

Thanks for trying to help.

Domingo

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Date:         Mon, 29 May 2000 23:25:27 -0400
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              dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
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------Original Message------
From: dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 30, 2000 3:16:09 AM GMT
Subject: Re: IR to a Canon Portable  Printer

------Original Message------
From: Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: May 30, 2000 1:26:00 AM GMT
Subject: Re: IR to a Canon Portable  Printer


<<< Hi,

If you check up
http://www.parallax-research.com/liteprint3s.html , they
have a product called LitePrint3S which could possibly
enable printing by
IR to any printer.


These products are intended for the IRDA
standard.**************

Perhaps I was a bit hasty.  This device supports SIR.  While
it is not what I had in mind, it is interesting nontheless.

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 04:13:33 GMT
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              GARRON GARRON <garron@HOTMAIL.COM>
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i am a buyer of 95lx   1meg
must not have "hairline cracks on hinges"
garron@hotmail.com








>From: h.tieleman@PLANET.NL
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>h.tieleman@PLANET.NL
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Fwd: HP95 -> OutLook
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:48:28 -0400
>
>--- begin of forwarded message ---
>
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:05:48 -0400
>To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>From: h.tieleman@planet.nl (H.Tieleman)
>
>
>Subscriber Comments: I'm using a HP LX95 organiser and I would like to
>import/export my Outlookfiles. How is this to be done? Once I was
>'close' by using a mntellink-program but I lost it. I don't mind making
>several mn-between'step for getting results. Thanks for responding
>.......
>
>
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>*
>* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
>* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**
>
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 07:46:50 +0200
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              rakotor <rakotor@INFONIE.FR>
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From:         rakotor <rakotor@INFONIE.FR>
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Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com
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I have Cakewalk  for Dos v.4, that does not allow a note entry view in
standart music notation. Later versions have this feature but I haven't
tried them on the palmtop.
Rakoto

>
> Hi.  Do you happen to know if your version of cakewalk for DOS includes
> a note entry view in standard music notation?  I believe I have seen it
> and others asure me of the same, but I cannot find it.
>
> TIA
>
> Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 01:00:26 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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CHUN,TERRENCE UNGHOONG <tchun@UCLA.EDU> asked if DOS can do floating point
math.

DOS doesn't have any arithmetic operators. A suggestion: use an external
command-line math program and call it from within the LXB script. Visit
www.palmtoppaper.com/free.htm and search for Math in the database of
programs.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 01:06:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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From:         Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP 200LX and the internal ram of this machine.
Comments: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5rd_Tveiten?= <ba-t@ONLINE.NO>
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Berd Tveiten <ba-t@ONLINE.NO> asked
>>Is it possible to program the HP in a way that you can use all the
internal ram to operate programs, like you do on an ordinary pc?<<

Have you tried More, Menu A T  to terminate System Manager? That will give
you more working memory in which to run Win3.0.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 18:31:37 +1200
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Hi Listers

I want to register for the shareware ASILIB (used with ASIC), but the
address given for the author Doug Herr is as of 1995. He may have moved,
and I don't want to send $25 to someone else, so I'd like to contact him.
The only electronic address he gave was CompuServe 71247,3542.
Can someone please tell me what this means?
Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 10:23:23 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Xfinder questions
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Peniel,

> JP mentioned closing filer with closeflr.com.  This works fine, but
> there's an easier way built into XF.  In the finder.env file look near
> the end for a parameter called "opening action" and change it to look
> like this:
>
> #Opening action
> %o  ,     ,$t Filer         #Close Filer on launch
>
> This saves about 58K, and if you don't open appmgr, you have a net loss
> of about 7 or 8 K with XF.  IMHO, a fair trade for the extra power.  I
> also used Key200 to change the &...(More) key to start XF instead of
> AppMgr.

Thank you for this explanation.

Could you close also the AppMgr?

Please could you show your Key200 data file, which changes the &..
key.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 06:17:38 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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> and I don't want to send $25 to someone else, so I'd like to contact him.
> The only electronic address he gave was CompuServe 71247,3542.
> Can someone please tell me what this means?

Roger:

I can't comment on the package itself, nor the author, but you can
e-mail any compuserve address as follows:

71247.3542@compuserve.com

Hope this helps,

-Chris


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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 07:58:36 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> Recently I installed Windows 2000.

I am thinking of doing the same.. But I wonder how my internetsharing
would work under Win 2000

> The network driver from Rod Whitby's
> web.
>
> NETBEUI as well as IPX are working fine.

You use a Hp200lx with a Accton to do this? I use a Accton on the Hplx
connecting to a home hub. But I have not looked into mapping drives
yet. Made a attempt but did not get it to work. Is mapping what you use
the above for?

I use the networkcard to connect to the internet through the Internet
Sharing capabilities of Win 98SE

> Thanks to Rod Whitby and also to Mack Baggette and Stefan Peichl, who
> provided the necessary driver and software (lxcic and lxether).
>
> Looks like a good investment!

I will look into what W2k needs..I have only 64mb ram and a Celeron
400a@552Mhz. The processor is okey, but I think I could use some more
ram.

Any thoughts welcome..should I go for Win2000. I do not run anything
special. Ms Office and some games Calypso mail and Netscape..And
internetsharing with my hub/hplx

Regards

--
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 14:50:24 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Re: Windows 2000 and network

> I will look into what W2k needs..I have only 64mb ram and a Celeron
> 400a@552Mhz. The processor is okey, but I think I could use some more
> ram.

For W2K, Martin, RAM is like speeding motorbikes.... You can't have enough!
:-)

Processor is ok. But I do have W2K Pro running on my Libretto, Pentium 75
MHz with 32 MB RAM. For fun, because the teacher said it wasn't possible...
:-)

> Any thoughts welcome..should I go for Win2000. I do not run anything
> special. Ms Office and some games Calypso mail and Netscape..And
> internetsharing with my hub/hplx

Depends on your wants. Do you want to play with a new OS? Keep up with the
technology? You could try it out, a 120 day license follows all these course
cds. If you can't find one I could burn you one. Dualboot to find out, a 1
GB partition is nearly a must. Some things seem faster, some are slower...
Summa summarium I guess you get a boost. NT networking code is supposedly
~15% faster the W9x.

On my pcs it is more stable than W98. I am not a NT-person, so my only
stability reference is MS OS sans NT. And Apollo Domain. I like it better
than NT. NT had stuff all over the place and I could never get the hang of
it. I was forever looking around... W2K has some new networking stuff,
amongst other things one doesn't have to reboot all the time. Nice for us
testers! I like it better than *nix, it is easier to see most possibilities
and changes. Corel Linux might change my opinion on that. I can use a
command line, have so from MD-DOS days, but all my programs have been
graphical.

But there is one caveat:

All software is always better on the next generation hardware!

WP 5.1 flew on a 486 class computer. Autocad 12 for DOS was greased
lightning on a Pentium. W98 is instantaneous on a PIII-600. W2K needs a
1GHz+ cpu with 1GB RAM... :-)

br

Franklin
(W2K MCSE-to-be)

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 08:59:26 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Comments: To: lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM
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>>The only electronic address he gave was CompuServe 71247,3542.
>>Can someone please tell me what this means?


this means his email address should be

  71247.3542@compuserve.com

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 08:48:40 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?

Hi all,

I'm about to go to one subscription Ýmy CIS account vs. this one (I have
subscribed twice for various reasons of convenience)¨.

I keep this one on "normal" mail, i.e., all 8 million messages <grin> go
into a subfolder, using Outlook, but want to leave the other account on
DIGEST.

I use Post/LX with CIS for the account that gets the DIGEST, and would love
to have one of those programs that interfaces with Post/LX and "explodes"
the digest for me.

I remember downloading something the list was talking about (at least a year
ago) and trying it, but not being able to make it work with the format THIS
list's DIGESTs come in.

I've forwarded DIGESTed messages to another account, downloaded w/ GP and
also NOT had any luck(!).

I think the common problem is the operator!! ÝCan't blame the OS, just an
"O" <grin>¨.

Is there a good add-on that can let us (from Post/LX):

 o Scroll through DIGEST subject lines, hit Enter and be taken to that
message
 o When reading a message from a DIGEST, reply to THAT message only (with
the proper subj. line, automatically inserted
 o Not cause me to go through massive reconfigurations

TIA!!!

--tim

PS. Any "best use of time/energy" suggestions are also welcome -- not sure
what the best way to deal w/ all the message traffic might be.....

Tim Raymond
13th Corps Support Command Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-8872
Cell: 289-6346
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There is always a way to do it better... Find it!  -- Edison.
email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 06:54:38 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, freeway@UIA.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET>
Subject:      boot/partition magic..
In-Reply-To:  <0b9201bfca35$bb6b1da0$0401a8c0@fex>
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I saw a copy of a linux version (I forget which exactly) that advertised
itself as much easier to learn than red hat.  It also contained boot magic
and partition magic.  My question is - do you have any experience with
these (magic) programs.  I'd like to play around with the linux, but I
don't want to destroy what I have presently by attempting to re-partition
my hard drive.  I have 1.5 gig (all drive C:) (win95) with a CDrom (drive
D:) and my drive C: is at approx 60% capacity, with lots of goodies I'll
hate to try and replace if I lose 'em.  I apologise for going off topic,
but I tend to trust advice from y'all quicker than any newsgroup.  Tom.

At 02:50 PM 5/30/00 +0200, you wrote:
>> I will look into what W2k needs..I have only 64mb ram and a Celeron
>> 400a@552Mhz. The processor is okey, but I think I could use some

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 10:00:55 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              charles.orts@BE.TELEGYR.COM
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Subject:      Fwd: LX French -> English?
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:34:19 -0400
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: charles.orts@be.telegyr.com (ORTS Charles)

Subscriber Comments: My HP 200LX 2MB RAM is in French language.
How can I convert it English ?
Thanks


--- end of forwarded message ---
*
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* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 11:53:35 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Xfinder questions
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Tue, 30 May 2000 09:42:27 -0400 (EDT)

05h19m57s ago ...
On Tue, 30 May 2000, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> > This saves about 58K, and if you don't open appmgr, you have a net =
loss
> > of about 7 or 8 K with XF.  IMHO, a fair trade for the extra power.  =
I
> > also used Key200 to change the &...(More) key to start XF instead of
> > AppMgr.

I should make one correction here.  With the latest XF beta, the memory
hit is about 12K, not the 7 or 8 as I said.  The smaller numbers are
from XF R.9

> Could you close also the AppMgr?

Probably - haven't tried.  If you don't open it, there's no need to
close it    8->   You could use the %o (opening action) parameter to
execute just about any XF macro you want.  My copy of XF starts from a
hot key assigned in MoreEXM.

> Please could you show your Key200 data file, which changes the &..
> key.

Sure, here it is:
         More : Ctrl F6 ¬F6 ¬Ctrl
Very simple; didn't even bother with doing a full swap.  ÝCtrl¨ÝF6¨ is
the XF hotkey in MoreEXM.  The Key200 line presses Ctrl, then F6, then
releases them.  If I need AppMgr, there's an icon in XF to open it.


Later,

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>>>>>The most disagreement I have with the statement about
stagnation in development of hardware and software. From my
perspective, there is no slowdown at all in terms of new
stuff, and/or updating existing s/w by adding new features.<<<<<

While I do agree that there is still a pretty fair amount of stuff
still being produced for the 200lx, it's nothing like what was
produced for it in the first few years of it's life.

If you remember in HPHAND there was a constant stream of clever new
program.  I logged on every 2 or 3 days and there was usually
something new.  Often several things.

Enough stuff is being produced now to keep things interesting and
useful for 200lx owners.  It's not a problem.  But it's not the
flood it used to be.

Part of the reason is that there are probably a lot of former 200lx
developers who have moved on to newer platforms.  Another part of
the reason is that there is already so much high quality software
available for the 200lx.  Programmers try to fill a need.  But there
aren't nearly as many unfilled needs as there used to be.

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 09:10:58 CDT
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Several new Linux distributions allow you to install Linux in what I've
heard called "loop-back" mode.  This is explained to me as creating a
file system for Linux within a file in Windows.  The purpose is to allow
you to install and play with Linux without reformatting.

RedHat 6.2 supports this as do most other current distributions of Linux.
 Setup on most distributions has gotten significantly easier over the
years.

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> I saw a copy of a linux version (I forget which exactly) that advertised
> itself as much easier to learn than red hat.  It also contained boot magic
> and partition magic.

About four years back I played around with the Ygdrasil (sp?) distribution
of Linux.  This version allowed me to have a partition on my hard disk
that was dedicated to Linux, and to boot just from a floppy.  Once the
system was booted, I didn't need the floppy anymore.  This let me keep
the system I normally used, while letting me experiment with Linux by
just booting with the floppy.  I'm would expect that the newer distributions
have similar arrangements.

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Subject: Win CE in hp360lx

Holas listeros:
Sabeis algun software para conectar windows con windows ce, o  bien, mac co=
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Lo conecto por pueto de serie en pc y en mac puerto serie-USB.
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> Several new Linux distributions allow you to install Linux in what I've
> heard called "loop-back" mode.  This is explained to me as creating a
> file system for Linux within a file in Windows.  The purpose is to allow
> you to install and play with Linux without reformatting.
>
> RedHat 6.2 supports this as do most other current distributions of Linux.
>  Setup on most distributions has gotten significantly easier over the
> years.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>

It's not clear to me if you are asking a question or just making a statement.
However, in case it's the former, `VMWare' allows the creation of multiple
virtual machines under Win2K or WinNT, and one of the common uses of such
virtual machines is to install a Linux under the Windows OS (or, vice-versa).

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Hi all.

A few weeks ago, I mentioned that a small chess program I used on the LX (gotten
from either this list or its predecessor) was freeware, and several copies were
sent out to members, and also posted to a website.

On examination of the binary by Laust and Mitch Hamm however, the following
notation appears:

Blubush Chess is broken by :
   ------ The Duplicators -----

which hints at suspect origins, and a decision was made to not post the game on
SUPER.

This note corrects my earlier one describing the software as "freeware", when in
fact, it may be a hacked and illegal copy, and for that reason, you'll not find
it on SUPER, nor should you distribute any copies under the impression that it
was freeware, nor characterize it as such, at least not based on my remarks.

Since Bluebush Inc doesn't seem to have a web presence (if they still exist at
all), I can't verify that the software is "free" (nor do I have the time to
research this).  I did note that at least one prominent German chess website
offered the same hacked version -> http://www.gambitsoft.com/sharee.htm

If any of you wants to contact Gambit ... perhaps they might have more details.

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Hi,

Does anyone use a wireless modem card with their 200LX?  I have a RIM 2-way
E-mail pager which is great, but it would also be great to be able to send
and receive small 1-2-3 sheets etc. via wireless.

Thanks,
Dan


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> I'm putting the finishing touches on a LXB script (which may be of

> I would like to keep it as simple as possible for the simple math.  But I
> need to be able to have a few decimal places.

I guess lxb does not do decimals - I don't recall.

One suggestion was going outside to an external program.  Another might
be to break the problem into separate stages.  Break the numbers before
and after (left and right) the decimal (search for the PERIOD) into
strings and do your math on those two separate groupings, than
reassemble the numbers but adding the "hundreds/thousands") from the
right group to the left of the decimal back into the results of any math
already done on the original left side numbers. This is just a rough
concept and may not work. (g)

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> I saw a copy of a linux version (I forget which exactly) that advertised
> itself as much easier to learn than red hat.  It also contained boot magic
> and partition magic.  My question is - do you have any experience with
> these (magic) programs.  I'd like to play around with the linux, but I

I have used Partition Magic for a number of years (well, not often as
once the disk is setup, that's really it).  And it really is MAGIC.  It
works quite well.  I have divided, unified and redivided harddisks and
it has worked flawlessly.  I did create a dual boot when I first moved
from dos5/desqview to win95.  Worked fine for about 6 months as which
time I dissolved the dos5 partition and moved it back into the "OTHER C:
drive"

When I went to win98 and a new computer I redivided things up again with
no problems.  Some of it is a bit arcane if, like me, you are not sure
of extended partitions and stuff like that but I was able to work my way
through it.

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"F. Kaufman" wrote:
>
> I have used Partition Magic for a number of years (well, not often as
> once the disk is setup, that's really it).  And it really is MAGIC.  It
> works quite well.  I have divided, unified and redivided harddisks and
> it has worked flawlessly.  I did create a dual boot when I first moved
> from dos5/desqview to win95.  Worked fine for about 6 months as which
> time I dissolved the dos5 partition and moved it back into the "OTHER C:
> drive"
>
> When I went to win98 and a new computer I redivided things up again with
> no problems.  Some of it is a bit arcane if, like me, you are not sure
> of extended partitions and stuff like that but I was able to work my way
> through it.
>

I second your remarks, but want to add one comment and further observation.
The comment is that I found it _vital_ to _not_ mix use of Partition Magic
with _any_ other partition tool (FDisk, Linux Fdisk + other partition tools,
NT Disk Administrator, ...). Once I made the decision to allow _only_ Partition
Magic write my partitions most difficulties went away.

I now have a quintuple boot system (NT4.0, 98, 2K, SuSE Linux, BeOS) that
runs just fine on any of the OS, and where _most_ of the disk is seen by
all of the various OS...

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Are there any site design experts here on the list? If so, please contact me
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Jeff

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Hi Terry,

> I'm an avid Scrabble fan and so was excited recently to get hold of a copy
> of the Virgin Mastertronics Scrabble for CGA-level machines. Unfortunately
> even with CGAHLP, I can't really read the screen. Anyone out in HPLX-land
> know how to make this program usable?

Have you tried the ON + "*" key combination? Also, ON + "/"
inverts the screen, which might help. ON + "+" and ON + "-"
increase/decrease the contrast.

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 18:48:15 +0000
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I am able to get a connection speed of 14400 baud with my Nokia
8210 mobile phone. All I do is to use the following init string:

ModemInit=3DAT&F+CBST=3D14,0,1

WWW/LX reports "connect 14400". I'm not sure, if it works with
every GSM provider, but it works with the german provider VIAG.

I guess all other new Nokia phones should accept the command.
You can try IR.EXE from D&A to see, if your mobile supports
the CBST command.

Start IR in server mode and execute AT+CBST=3D?
The Nokia 8210 answers

AT+CBST=3D?

+CBST: (0-7,12,14-16,65,66,68,70,71,75,79-81),(0,2),(1)

OK


If the value 14 is included in the answer, it should work.

That means about 50% increased speed! I can feel it :-)

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 12:44:43 -0400
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Go america offers serial interfaced wireless services IIRC - the units
are relatively big, but contain their own power. They would hook to
the 200LX as a serial modem.

Just a thought,

Ken
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> Hi,
>
> Does anyone use a wireless modem card with their 200LX?  I have a RIM
2-way
> E-mail pager which is great, but it would also be great to be able to send
> and receive small 1-2-3 sheets etc. via wireless.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
> --
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> Matrix Meridian Corporation
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LXB has the calc command for doing math. Here's some examples from an LXB
menu program I wrote for myself:

These are some values I use to create a battery level meter display:

calc *battlvl @battlvl@ - 230
calc *factor 200000 / 70
calc *battlvl @battlvl@ * @factor@
calc *battlvl @battlvl@ / 1000
calc *start 200 - @battlvl@

If anyone wants the whole code, let me know. I don't want to post a whole
big prog listing here.

I'm not sure if LXB handles decimal arithmetic so you may have to multiply
all your values by 1000, do the math, then divide by 1000. You can also look
for a DOS port of the unix 'bc' or 'dc' command. They're  command line
calculators specifically designed for doing math in scripts.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else as I've done a good
bit with LXB. It's powerful but definitely has some shortcomings not present
in 'real' programming languages. I would be eager to provide any help I can
to a health care professional. You guys make a difference in a lot of
people's lives ;¬>


>-----Original Message-----
>From: CHUN,TERRENCE UNGHOONG Ýmailto:tchun@UCLA.EDU¨
>Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 6:35 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Math expression in scripts?
>
>
>I'm putting the finishing touches on a LXB script (which may be of
>interest to thouse of you who write daily medical progress
>notes), but I
>need to be able to perform some simple math from within the script.
>
>I would like to keep it as simple as possible for the simple
>math.  But I
>need to be able to have a few decimal places.
>
>I'm fairly new to DOS, so if there is something that I am
>missing, perhaps
>some kind soul could enlighten me.
>
>Thanks!
>
>-- Terry

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I've seen adapter PCMCIA cards that have a pull out antenna and use the same
network as the RIM pagers.  Don't know who carries them or can activate the
service...  I think for a while, US Robotics branded them.

d.

on 00/5/31 12:44, Ken Hansen at n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET wrote:

> Go america offers serial interfaced wireless services IIRC - the units
> are relatively big, but contain their own power. They would hook to
> the 200LX as a serial modem.
>
> Just a thought,
>
> Ken
> n2vip@bellatlantic.net

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When you get in touch with him, let him know about this list and the 200lx.
He probably thinks that no one uses his software anymore. If we can get him
to write a PAL-like extension to his library code we would have a powerful
development alternative to the C+PAL environment. We currently don't have a
BASIC language optimized for the LX and it would great to use ASIC. It makes
very small foot print execs unlike a lot of other basics that make big execs
and require a runtime lib.(Like M$ Quick/Visual basics.)




>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Whitmarsh Ýmailto:lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:32 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ ASILIB Author
>
>
>Hi Listers
>
>I want to register for the shareware ASILIB (used with ASIC), but the
>address given for the author Doug Herr is as of 1995. He may
>have moved,
>and I don't want to send $25 to someone else, so I'd like to
>contact him.
>The only electronic address he gave was CompuServe 71247,3542.
>Can someone please tell me what this means?
>Cheers, Roger
>
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But is there software for use with the 100LX/200LX?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Daniel Ho
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:59 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Wireless Modem?
>
>
> I've seen adapter PCMCIA cards that have a pull out antenna
> and use the same
> network as the RIM pagers.  Don't know who carries them or
> can activate the
> service...  I think for a while, US Robotics branded them.
>
> d.
>
> on 00/5/31 12:44, Ken Hansen at n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET wrote:
>
> > Go america offers serial interfaced wireless services IIRC
> - the units
> > are relatively big, but contain their own power. They would hook to
> > the 200LX as a serial modem.
> >
> > Just a thought,
> >
> > Ken
> > n2vip@bellatlantic.net
>
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Yes, I've seen them used with the HPLX.


on 00/5/30 14:42, James Henry at jhenry@comcastwork.com wrote:

> But is there software for use with the 100LX/200LX?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
>> Daniel Ho
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:59 PM
>> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject: Re: Wireless Modem?
>>
>>
>> I've seen adapter PCMCIA cards that have a pull out antenna
>> and use the same
>> network as the RIM pagers.  Don't know who carries them or
>> can activate the
>> service...  I think for a while, US Robotics branded them.
>>
>> d.
>>
>> on 00/5/31 12:44, Ken Hansen at n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET wrote:
>>
>>> Go america offers serial interfaced wireless services IIRC
>> - the units
>>> are relatively big, but contain their own power. They would hook to
>>> the 200LX as a serial modem.
>>>
>>> Just a thought,
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> n2vip@bellatlantic.net
>>
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At 03:56 PM 5/30/00 +0000, fjkaufman wrote:
>I have used Partition Magic for a number of years (well, not often as
>once the disk is setup, that's really it).  And it really is MAGIC.  It
>works quite well.  I have divided, unified and redivided harddisks and
>it has worked flawlessly.  I did create a dual boot when I first moved
>from dos5/desqview to win95.  Worked fine for about 6 months as
>time I dissolved the dos5 partition and moved it back into the "OTHER >C:
drive"

Am I to understand that when you first ran Partition Magic, you ran it on
an otherwise undivided disk that was originally partitioned with Fdisk and
was full of stuff?  Inotherwords, you didn't need to re-format the new
partitions?  And are you saying it creates multiple drive C:'s as opposed
to C: D: E: F: etc?

>When I went to win98 and a new computer I redivided things up again
>no problems.  Some of it is a bit arcane if, like me, you are not sure
>of extended partitions and stuff like that but I was able to work my >way
through it.

I have some past experience at low-level formatting and creating multiple
drives with fdisk, and that's primarily what I'm trying to avoid.  I can
make a small degree of backup on 1.44 floppies, but can't backup the whole
thing and start from scratch because I don't have the necessary hardware.
From what I've learned so far, Linux may not be worth the risk, but ever
since I've gotten this particular machine I've wished I could boot into
pure DOS without effort, and maybe load win95 as a choice (just the reverse
of what now happens).  Tom

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At 12:24 PM 5/30/00 -0400, David Ness wrote:
>Once I made the decision to allow _only_ Partition Magic write my
>partitions most difficulties went away.
>I now have a quintuple boot system (NT4.0, 98, 2K, SuSE Linux, BeOS) >that
runs just fine on any of the OS, and where _most_ of the disk is >seen by
all of the various OS...

Can you run utilities such as Speedisk on the drive?  If so, do you run it
on the entire disk at once, or do you use the proper version for each
OS/partition?  By Speedisk I mean a defrag utility and or something
equivalent to NDD.

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Hi Rakoto and others,

On Tue, 30 May 2000 07:46:50 +0200, rakotor <rakotor@INFONIE.FR> wrote:

> I have Cakewalk  for Dos v.4, that does not allow a note entry view in
> standart music notation. Later versions have this feature but I haven't
> tried them on the palmtop.

What cable is needed to connect the LX to a MIDI device? Just a plain
cable with a serial plug and a MIDI plug?
Or is any active electronic part needed?

Does anyone know the connections that have to be made?

GTX
daniel

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IMHO  Partition Magic is a superb program from a helpful company.

I got Partition Magic about three years ago when I found that my Supercalc 5.5 for
DOS acted up under the W95 DOS. I had some initial difficulty installing it and
telephoned their helpline in the US from here (Ireland) before competition drove
down the telephone charges here. They phoned me back and in a _long_ phone call
sorted out the problem.

I had DOS 6.22 in a 200mb C: (selected at bootup) partition where I kept my old DOS
software, a 300mb D drive (mainly used for parking data from both C drives) which
left me 1.5Gb for W95. Recently, I had no trouble shrinking both these partitions
to get more space for greedy W95  bloatware applications.

It goes without saying that everything in DOS is rock steady and a monster
spreadsheet in SC5.5 recalculates  instantaneously with my now ageing 120mhz
processor and 48mb ram.

Richard

David Ness wrote:

> "F. Kaufman" wrote:
> >
> > I have used Partition Magic for a number of years (well, not often as
> > once the disk is setup, that's really it).  And it really is MAGIC.  It
> > works quite well.  I have divided, unified and redivided harddisks and
> > it has worked flawlessly.  I did create a dual boot when I first moved
> > from dos5/desqview to win95.  Worked fine for about 6 months as which
> > time I dissolved the dos5 partition and moved it back into the "OTHER C:
> > drive"
> >
> > When I went to win98 and a new computer I redivided things up again with
> > no problems.  Some of it is a bit arcane if, like me, you are not sure
> > of extended partitions and stuff like that but I was able to work my way
> > through it.
> >
>
> I second your remarks, but want to add one comment and further observation.
> The comment is that I found it _vital_ to _not_ mix use of Partition Magic
> with _any_ other partition tool (FDisk, Linux Fdisk + other partition tools,
> NT Disk Administrator, ...). Once I made the decision to allow _only_ Partition
> Magic write my partitions most difficulties went away.
>
> I now have a quintuple boot system (NT4.0, 98, 2K, SuSE Linux, BeOS) that
> runs just fine on any of the OS, and where _most_ of the disk is seen by
> all of the various OS...
>
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I agree with Stefan Lombaard.  If I could run Linux or even
NT in this format (including the numeric keypad), I might
go for it.  But the range of applications we have available,
plus the versatility and battery life, make the DS 200LX
unbeatable.

I think the popularity of Pal and Wince have to do with the
fact that people do not want to type--they want to point.
We ran into this in the 1970s with IBM 3270 dumb terminals:
high-level managers wanted access to the data bases but they
did not want to punch buttons on a keyboard--not even the
function keys!  So we had to give them keyboard-less terminals
with light pens attached, and they could point and click at
the screen with the light pens.

People think they look dumb or geeky because they can't type,
but they think they look cool while they're trying to scratch
in a note on their Palms.  Meanwhile I have my clamshell
closed and I'm talking while they're still grafitti-ing.

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"T. McCoy" wrote:

> At 03:56 PM 5/30/00 +0000, fjkaufman wrote:
> >I have used Partition Magic for a number of years (well, not often as
> >once the disk is setup, that's really it).  And it really is MAGIC.  It
> >works quite well.  I have divided, unified and redivided harddisks and
> >it has worked flawlessly.  I did create a dual boot when I first moved
> >from dos5/desqview to win95.  Worked fine for about 6 months as
> >time I dissolved the dos5 partition and moved it back into the "OTHER >C:
> drive"
>
> Am I to understand that when you first ran Partition Magic, you ran it on
> an otherwise undivided disk that was originally partitioned with Fdisk and
> was full of stuff?  Inotherwords, you didn't need to re-format the new
> partitions?  And are you saying it creates multiple drive C:'s as opposed
> to C: D: E: F: etc?

I have two C: drives. You don't need to reformat; my 2Gb drive had already been
factory loaded by Gateway. You just need to make sure you leave enough room for
the existing contents, and you can add on D E F etc if you wish



> since I've gotten this particular machine I've wished I could boot into
> pure DOS without effort, and maybe load win95 as a choice (just the reverse
> of what now happens).  Tom

You have a choice with Partition Magic of loading DOS C: or Win C: at bootup
but you cannot load Win from DOS without shutting down the machine. I would
suggest that you keep any DOS program data in a drive other than the DOS C:
drive where you have the option of looking at it if you happen to be in Windows
as well as in DOS.

>
>
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Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote:

> > What distance do You keep between HP200lx and Nokia 8210?
> > I sometimes have a hard time getting a connection to my ISP.
>
> I can use it from 0 cm to about 30 cm without problem.

I now can agree on that.
Until now I have only been testing the hp200 <-> 8210 connection in one
room at home. When trying the connection elswere I have no problem
(except some "baud to high?" msg).
I dont know why it did not work in that room? The reception was at max.
Maybee it was the lumination or the reflecting table surface?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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    Oops! Bloomers in my last offering.

"You cannot load Win from DOS without shutting down the machine"  Drop
the italicised part; with or without it can't be done -:)

The end of the message should read, ".....suggest you keep DOS program
data in a drive other than the DOS C: drive. It will then be accessible
from  Windows C: when you have booted Windows, and from DOS C: when you
have booted DOS "

Richard

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<p>The end of the message should read, ".....suggest you keep DOS program
data in a drive other than the DOS C: drive. It will then be accessible
from&nbsp; Windows C: when you have booted Windows, and from DOS C: when
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Hello

Does anyone by chance have any experience or know if it would be possible to
connect some sort of external KEYPAD (such as a  ten-key type, like the one
on the right side of the
keyboard of the 200LX.)to the 200 LX?


Thanks,
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Hmm, not sure about the unreadable posts on this topic, but a few weeks
back, someone had posted regarding their freeware CGA version of NJStar, I
believe, which was running on the lx.

This person had also made an inquiry about how to get it onto the SUPER
site, but AFAIK nobody responded to that request.  I would also very much
like to get a copy.

I'm attaching a copy of the original post.


200LX in Vancouver

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Date:    Mon, 8 May 2000 16:19:34 +0800
From:    JIMMY TAN <jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY>
Subject: Smallest Chinese Word Processor

Hello people,

Out of curiousity, I sent a picture of my LX running NJCGA to the publisher an
d
enquired if it was the smallest Chinese WP in the world. Please find their
response appended below. That's another one up for the LX!!!
Appreciate some pointers on how to get it posted on S.U.P.E.R. for the benefit
of others.


Thanks.

Jimmy.
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Subject:    Re: Smallest Chinese Word Processor
Author: "NJStar Software" <support@njstar.com>
Date:       2000/05/08 9:18 AM

It looks like that you are using our freeware NJStar Chinese WP 2.0 (CGA
version). Yes, it is the smallest one in the world. And best of all, it is
free.

Regards,

Don Wang

At 08:52 PM 5/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
>     Dear Sir/Mdm.
>
>     Could you please confirm (for knowledge sake!) if this is the smallest
>     Chinese word processor in the world?
>
>     I've got it now, wished I had it in my college days!
>
>
>     Warm regards.
>
>     Jimmy.
>
>
>
>
>
>Attachment Converted: "e:\download\chinese.jpg"
>

+-------------------------------------------------------------- ------+
*  NEW!!!  NJStar WP4.31, NJStar Communicator 2.2 are now available. *
+-------------------------------------------------------------- ------+
* NJStar Software Corp., P.O. Box 40,  Epping NSW 2121, Australia.   *
* Tel: +61-2-9889-2686    Web Site: http://www.njstar.com            *
*                                              *
* TO ORDER:                                        *
* Fax: +61-2-9889-2682    Web:    http://www.njstar.com/orders/      *
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The cable from the palmtop to the midi interface is the lx serial adapter
followed by a serial DB9-DB25. Then midi cables are linking  the IN and OUT
of the interface to a midi keyboard and a sound module (or to the OUT and IN
of an unique midi device).
Some midi devices have an integrated midi interface. In that case you can
connect directly the palmtop to the midi device with the lx serial adapter
followed by a serial "cable to host" (DB9-MiniDin8) or with the hard to find
palmtop to Mac cable.
In any case, you must verify that the software recognize and allows your
installation. For example, my Cakewalk v.4 has a driver for my Key Midiator
midi interface, but I had to get an other driver (included in v.5) before
using the direct connection possibility.
Rakoto

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
>
> What cable is needed to connect the LX to a MIDI device? Just a plain
> cable with a serial plug and a MIDI plug?
> Or is any active electronic part needed?
>
> Does anyone know the connections that have to be made?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 18:50:08 -0400
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"T. McCoy" wrote (asking Fred Kauffman):
>
> Am I to understand that when you first ran Partition Magic, you ran it on
> an otherwise undivided disk that was originally partitioned with Fdisk and
> was full of stuff?  Inotherwords, you didn't need to re-format the new
> partitions?  And are you saying it creates multiple drive C:'s as opposed
> to C: D: E: F: etc?
>

I (obviously) can't speak for Fred, but IME you are asking for trouble if
you mix FDisk and PM. However, I think I would trust PM to take an FDisk
created disk and properly handle the shuffling around necessary to get it
compressed so that it can be partitioned. PM certainly moves stuff around
without difficulty, and I have done enough of it to think highly of PMs
reliability.

To try to be perfectly clear, I'd have no fear of running PM on an already
set-up disk if the current disk had a simple partition structure (i.e.
Windows, out of the box, for example). Where I start to worry is when you've
used FDisk to do some complicated partitioning thing, and then want PM
to do something further. And, I have blown it a couple of times by using
FDisk or Disk Administrator to do something _after_ PM was in control, so I
don't do that anymore.

I have 3 C: drives (one for NT/DOS, one for 98 and one for 2K) plus
D:, E:, F: ... drives which are visible to each of the various OS in tandem.
It all works as it should, and I have no trouble seeing _all_ of the
drives in Linux or BeOS---they're _much_ better than Windows at understanding
the big world outside of themselves...

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freeway@uia.net wrote:
>
> Can you run utilities such as Speedisk on the drive?  If so, do you run it
> on the entire disk at once, or do you use the proper version for each
> OS/partition?  By Speedisk I mean a defrag utility and or something
> equivalent to NDD.

I have no idea. Certainly I don't run anything across the `whole disk at
once' as parts of it are FAT, FAT32, Linux swap, Linux Ext2 and BeOS, along
with some VMWare virtual disks, so nothing (other than Partition Magic
itself) understands everything.

When I want to Defrag, I just move the current content, reformat the
appropriate part and restore.

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 18:32:00 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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>>>>I saw a copy of a linux version (I forget which exactly) that
advertised
itself as much easier to learn than red hat.  It also contained boot
magic
and partition magic.  My question is - do you have any experience
with
these (magic) programs.  I'd like to play around with the linux, but
I
don't want to destroy what I have presently by attempting to
re-partition
my hard drive.<<<<

I've been using Partition Magic for several years on my desktop and
my laptop and my previous desktop and 2 previous laptops.  I've
added partitions, deleted partitions and resized partitions a number
of times and I've never had the least hint of a problem.

I have a small 16 bit partition that I use for a few old programs
that cant handle 32 bit partitions.  I resize that about once or
twice a month.  Sometimes more.  I change the others less often.
More like 2 or 3 times a year.

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Please don't hit me, but I can't find the backslash key anywhere!


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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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right next to the escape key, top left...


----- Original Message -----
From: Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: Extraordinarily Stupid Question


> Please don't hit me, but I can't find the backslash key anywhere!
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 01:45:01 +0100
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Subject:      The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
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Hey again folks!

Do you remember the Commodore C64 microcomputer whitch came early in the =
80's?

For the commodore you could in those days buy an external 51/2" floppy disk =
drive.
Has enyone of you tried to make this work with the HP200LX?

And if you have, how did you do it?

The connector from the disk drive must of course be replaced with a serial =
connector, or maybe a paralell connector?

And in whitch order should those tiny cable inside be connected to the =
connector?

And what about a software driver?

It would have been nice if this is possible.
I assume there are many of this floppy drives around with nothing to do. =
;-)

Cheers

B=E5rd Tveiten =

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 18:39:19 -0500
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              Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
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From:         Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
Subject:      Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
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<bigger>I have had good experiences using  LXDR with other lists but
haven't used it with this one.


</bigger>Mailing List Digest Reader for DOS

by Rick Kozak


Terry Owen






At 08:48 AM 05/30/2000 -0500, Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC wrote:


>

>I remember downloading something the list was talking about (at least a
year

>ago) and trying it, but not being able to make it work with the format
THIS

>list's DIGESTs come in.

>

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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>>>I think the popularity of Pal and Wince have to do with the
fact that people do not want to type--they want to point.<<<<

I don't agree at all.  I think the Palm (I don't know WinCe) and the
200lx appeal to people with different needs.  I have both.  I keep a
200lx by my phone for numbers, notes, addresses, etc.  I keep one by
my computer for websites and passwords.  I carry another one with me
if I'm going to do some programming on the go, such as while waiting
for lunch.  I also use it for a phone book.

I have a Palm that I carry when I don't really expect to need much
but want something just in case.  It weighs practically nothing.  I
hardly notice it's there.

As for writing vs typing,  typing is much easier if you have to
enter more than just a few words.  No comparision.  But for a word
or two or three there's hardly any difference except that you don't
have to adjust your position as much to write in the Palm as you do
to type on the 200lx.

Also, it's trivial to draw a small map or quick diagram on the Palm.

They both have their uses and their fans and I think it's a little
silly to say one is better than the other.  Sure, the 200lx is much
more powerful.  But better depends on your needs.

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 16:52:34 -0700
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Well so many of y'all have responded to my questions
re: partition & boot magic, I'd like to say thanks to all
& I believe I'll be looking to buy & try these programs.

Thanks again!      Tom

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 20:05:24 -0400
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
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The C64 had a serial floppy but it was nothing like RS232 serial. It
only used 5 lines and I think one was a clock which would make it
a sychronis (sp?) connection, even less RS232 like.

What you might want to find is the disk drive made for the Radio
Shack / Tandy model 100. It was a serial drive but you could easily
write a driver to access it from another computer. I wrote an access
program for DOS that allowed me to move files from my main
computer to the model 100 via its floppy. The down side was that it
was only 100K single sided. The later model had 200K in a dual
sided version.

Pete

On 31 May 2000, at 1:45, B =E5 rd Tveiten wrote:

> Hey again folks!
>
> Do you remember the Commodore C64 microcomputer whitch came early in
> the 80's?
>
> For the commodore you could in those days buy an external 51/2" floppy
> disk drive. Has enyone of you tried to make this work with the
> HP200LX?
>
> And if you have, how did you do it?
>
> The connector from the disk drive must of course be replaced with a
> serial connector, or maybe a paralell connector?
>
> And in whitch order should those tiny cable inside be connected to the
> connector?
>
> And what about a software driver?
>
> It would have been nice if this is possible.
> I assume there are many of this floppy drives around with nothing to
> do. ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> B=E5rd Tveiten
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>




Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 20:10:07 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scrabble & CAGHLP
Comments: To: "Terry A. Ward" <terrywa@ELP.RR.COM>
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I have not used CGAHLP so I cannot speak to it's features.
But I usually use combinations of an inverted screen (with
ON-Slash), switching between 2 and 4 colors (with ON-Asterix),
and contrast adjustments (ON-Minus & ON-Plus) to make the
elements of the screen visable.

Unfortunately, sometimes the CGA colors are just not a good
fit on the monochrome screen.

Maybe there is a way to adjust the colors used in the Scrabble
game.  Or it has a monoschome mode.  Try launching the program
with a  /?

on the command line to see if it returns some help.  Or try
options like  /mono  /bw  or other stuff like that.


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On Tue, 30 May 2000 16:41:17 -0700 Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> writes:
> right next to the escape key, top left...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
> > Please don't hit me, but I can't find the backslash key anywhere!

Hmm .  .  .  When I first bought my hplx I could not find that key for
the first
couple of weeks or so.   But of course I never told anyone.  8-)

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 17:20:04 -0700
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From:         Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
Subject:      Another Stupid Question

Yeesh.  I am blind.  Thanks.

  Another question: sometimes I get an error saying "cannot execute
a:\<executable file>"  What does this mean?

  Sorry if I am wasting anyone's time :-/
                                                Nate.


"Fryday" <fryday@california.com> wrote:

>right next to the escape key, top left...
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:26 PM
>Subject: Extraordinarily Stupid Question
>
>
>> Please don't hit me, but I can't find the backslash key anywhere!
>>
>>
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>>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 02:25:55 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
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On Tue, 30 May 2000, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> The C64 had a serial floppy but it was nothing like RS232 serial. It
> only used 5 lines and I think one was a clock which would make it
> a sychronis (sp?) connection, even less RS232 like.

I think the 1541 disk drive used the IEEE-488 standard, but it it could've
been earlier CBM machines, like the PET series that use it (some Commodore
equipment did, I know). In any case, it does indeed use serveral lines, so
you'd need a parallel port.

With a parallel card for the LX, it *might* work, but I'm not sure it
would be fast enough (the LX).

You could of course connect to the 1541 disk drive via an old Commodore 64
(which are just as abundant as the drives, if not more so!). That should
work with a standard serial connection, but it would require custom
written software and be rather slow. I don't think a stock C64 can go
any higher than 9600 bps, perhaps 19200...

> What you might want to find is the disk drive made for the Radio
> Shack / Tandy model 100. It was a serial drive but you could easily
> write a driver to access it from another computer. I wrote an access
> program for DOS that allowed me to move files from my main
> computer to the model 100 via its floppy. The down side was that it
> was only 100K single sided. The later model had 200K in a dual
> sided version.

The C64 drive wasn't dual sided either (although a later version was), but
you solved the problem by flipping the disk yourself and making another
"notch" in the other side :-)


Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 17:27:27 -0700
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From:         "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Partition Magic
Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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This is very enlightening.  Thanks Barry.

At 06:32 PM 5/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I've been using Partition Magic for several years on my desktop and
>my laptop and my previous desktop and 2 previous laptops.  I've
>added partitions, deleted partitions and resized partitions a number
>of times and I've never had the least hint of a problem.
>
>I have a small 16 bit partition that I use for a few old programs
>that cant handle 32 bit partitions.  I resize that about once or
>twice a month.  Sometimes more.  I change the others less often.
>More like 2 or 3 times a year.
>

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 17:40:17 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
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From:         Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
Subject:      Recommendations

  I think it's just cognitive dissonance -- I keep praying it will have
popped up in the usual place right next to the carriage return, like a
normal backslash... and since it is way up where a backslash *shouldn't*
be, my mind refuses to accept it.

  Anyway, to the point of this email, I was wondering what web-browsing
and offline content-viewing software you all recommended.

  And sorry if I seem like an info leech right now -- I promise I know
SOME stuff about XTs and stuff :-)  Thanks.
                                                    Nate.

D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 May 2000 16:41:17 -0700 Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> writes:
>> right next to the escape key, top left...
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
>> > Please don't hit me, but I can't find the backslash key anywhere!
>
>Hmm .  .  .  When I first bought my hplx I could not find that key for
>the first
>couple of weeks or so.   But of course I never told anyone.  8-)
>
>Domingo
>
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 17:44:38 -0700
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              Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
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From:         Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
Subject:      Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
Comments: To: laustbn@DIKU.DK

No 1541s.  You want AT LEAST a 1571.  Commodore's floppy drives were
excruciatingly slow.  Be a real dinosaur and get an 8" floppy :-)  What
I'd recommend is an old Compaq (I think) or similar prehistoric
IBM-Compatible, but then I could just be talking out of my back orifice.
                                                    Nate.


Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 May 2000, Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
>> The C64 had a serial floppy but it was nothing like RS232 serial. It
>> only used 5 lines and I think one was a clock which would make it
>> a sychronis (sp?) connection, even less RS232 like.
>
>I think the 1541 disk drive used the IEEE-488 standard, but it it
could've
>been earlier CBM machines, like the PET series that use it (some
Commodore
>equipment did, I know). In any case, it does indeed use serveral lines,
so
>you'd need a parallel port.
>
>With a parallel card for the LX, it *might* work, but I'm not sure it
>would be fast enough (the LX).
>
>You could of course connect to the 1541 disk drive via an old Commodore
64
>(which are just as abundant as the drives, if not more so!). That should
>work with a standard serial connection, but it would require custom
>written software and be rather slow. I don't think a stock C64 can go
>any higher than 9600 bps, perhaps 19200...
>
>> What you might want to find is the disk drive made for the Radio
>> Shack / Tandy model 100. It was a serial drive but you could easily
>> write a driver to access it from another computer. I wrote an access
>> program for DOS that allowed me to move files from my main
>> computer to the model 100 via its floppy. The down side was that it
>> was only 100K single sided. The later model had 200K in a dual
>> sided version.
>
>The C64 drive wasn't dual sided either (although a later version was),
but
>you solved the problem by flipping the disk yourself and making another
>"notch" in the other side :-)
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Laust
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 09:47:18 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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I am looking for a mileage software that shows graph for petrol consumption
in kilometer per litre (metric system).  The one available on the SUPER
site seems to be for miles per gallon.

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 09:47:18 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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>Date:    Tue, 30 May 2000 10:34:59 -0400
>From:    Daniel Ho <hod@IXONET.COM>
>Subject: Wireless Modem?
>
>Does anyone use a wireless modem card with their 200LX?  I have a RIM 2-way
>E-mail pager which is great, but it would also be great to be able to send
>and receive small 1-2-3 sheets etc. via wireless.
>

I am using a Motorola Personal Messenger 100D wireless modem for wireless
email service in Singapore via a Dataroam service <http://www.dataroam.net.sg>

This is the reason for my late entry to using the HP200LX starting from
about one month ago, as I find that my HP620LX with extended battery is too
bulky and heavy to carry around for wireless email.

I have learnt a lot of other uses for the HP200LX from this list.

My Dataroam service is using an AiMail software which can be downloaded by
ftp from
ftp.newspage.com.sg

I understand that there is a similar service in the US using the Motorola
100D via the Ardis network.  If available, I would like to test out the
Ardis software on my Dataroam service.

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 20:57:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scrabble & CAGHLP
In-Reply-To:  <200005310010.UAA04447@spdmraab.compuserve.com> from "Stanley
              Dobrowski" at May 30, 2000 08:10:07 PM
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> Unfortunately, sometimes the CGA colors are just not a good
> fit on the monochrome screen.

I'm stumped as to how CGAHELP could *not* work, given enough time
and patience to figure out exactly what colors are being used and
then re-mapping them.  I have played with it to get ome program
working, and it was a bear.  But you should be able to get any
program working, I should think.  Maybe we need to archive the
different CGAHELP settings people use in SUPER for different
applications.  I'm willing to donate my setup, which was for the
ever-useful PC-HELP program.

-Chris


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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 22:28:32 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> The only electronic address he gave was CompuServe 71247,3542.
> Can someone please tell me what this means?

You can mail that address with 71247.3542@compuserve.com  Note that the comma
in the original Compuserve ID becomes a period in the E-mail address.

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 22:42:36 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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This drive was the 1541 disk drive. It was a serial device and was =
about the
size of a shoebox. It only held 170K on a floppy (remember single =
density
floppies.) Although it was a serial device I doubt that the voltages =
would
be the same as those found on PC rs-232 ports. If it does work then it =
could
also be use3d for commodore printers as they used the same interface. =
It was
a serial bus that could be daisy-chained between drives and printers.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: B =E5 rd Tveiten Ýmailto:ba-t@ONLINE.NO¨
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 8:45 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
>
>
>Hey again folks!
>
>Do you remember the Commodore C64 microcomputer whitch came=20
>early in the 80's?
>
>For the commodore you could in those days buy an external=20
>51/2" floppy disk drive.
>Has enyone of you tried to make this work with the HP200LX?
>
>And if you have, how did you do it?
>
>The connector from the disk drive must of course be replaced=20
>with a serial connector, or maybe a paralell connector?
>
>And in whitch order should those tiny cable inside be=20
>connected to the connector?
>
>And what about a software driver?
>
>It would have been nice if this is possible.
>I assume there are many of this floppy drives around with=20
>nothing to do. ;-)
>
>Cheers
>
>B=E5rd Tveiten=20
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 22:51:06 -0400
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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As found on Slashdot. Check out http://www.tiqit.com for info
on a matchbox-sized PC - if nothing else, it proves that a
next-generation LX could be done.

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 11:01:43 +0800
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 23:13:13 -0400
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              Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
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>Don't think you can do it EXACTLY as you describe.  AFAIK, XF always
>starts in the Palmtop screen (sort of like the windoze desktop).  The
>icon labeled RAMFlash in the default Palmtop setup takes you to a split
>screen file viewer.  The parameters for which view is used are set in
>finder.env -- the comments and docs will explain how.  You can return
>to the Palmtop screen by pressing 0 (zero - not letter O).  This is the
>reverse of what you really want, but it only takes one keypress to
>switch either way.

  OK. Please excuse all of the following questions <g>. I couldn't see a
.doc file in the X-finder directory and the finder.env file doesn't have
many explanations.
 Would you know how to make an a: drive app show up on the Palmtop startup
screen? I can see various built-in apps listed but no a: drive apps.
 How can I have RAMFlash start every time with c:\ on the left in detail
view and a:\ on the right in detail view (like in Filer)? Can't see this in
finder.env.
 I can see that there are hundreds of settings for X-Finder and it looks
like a very powerful app but I'm trying to understand how this power can be
made useful.
I'd like to start off slowly and just be able to use the program as a
replacement for Filer/AppManager.
 At the moment I can't see the value of having a Windoze-like startup
screen. Since we are not using a mouse we have to use keystrokes to access
these icons. Why not just have a menu launcher with text? As for all of
those back-up/restore icons, I can't use them personally. Wouldn't a
regular backup.bat do the job just as easily?


>JP mentioned closing filer with closeflr.com.  This works fine, but
>there's an easier way built into XF.  In the finder.env file look near
>the end for a parameter called "opening action" and change it to look
>like this:
>
>#Opening action
>%o  ,     ,$t Filer         #Close Filer on launch

   Thanks I'll give this a try.


>This saves about 58K, and if you don't open appmgr, you have a net loss
>of about 7 or 8 K with XF.  IMHO, a fair trade for the extra power.  I
>also used Key200 to change the &...(More) key to start XF instead of
>AppMgr.

   In my case my More key is already taken. Shortly after I bought my 200
several years ago I programmed Key200 to take over the PgUp/PgDn keys with
PgUp=Calc PgDn=More.
I tried out Numlock(?) a couple of weeks ago to have the number keys
function as PgUp and PgDn but I found myself needing to use the number keys
almost immediately after using the PgUp/PgDn so the program became quite
tedious switching back and forth between On and Off for the app.



 -Eric

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 23:24:28 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Tiqit - World's smallest PC
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*but* the battery is half the size of an LX, the cost is *obscene* and it
has no native I/O, only connectors.

The power is the killer - a 486, no matter how wonderful, will require
a real power source, not a couple little AA batteries...

Sorry, this proves what can be done with an unlimited budget...

This system actually reads like the IBM PC110, which the designer of
this unit is quite familiar with...

Ken
n2vip@bellatlantic.net

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From: "Mike Wagstaff" <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:51 PM
Subject: Fluff: Tiqit - World's smallest PC


> As found on Slashdot. Check out http://www.tiqit.com for info
> on a matchbox-sized PC - if nothing else, it proves that a
> next-generation LX could be done.
>
>  -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 04:34:24 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: boot/partition magic..
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> Am I to understand that when you first ran Partition Magic, you ran it on
> an otherwise undivided disk that was originally partitioned with Fdisk and
> was full of stuff?  Inotherwords, you didn't need to re-format the new
> partitions?  And are you saying it creates multiple drive C:'s as opposed
> to C: D: E: F: etc?

I guess there are two YES answers in there! (G)

I was first able to divide an already formatted, data/program laden c:
drive into a c:, d: and e: drive.  It takes care of moving the data and
programs - it first assesses whether you have the room to break it up.
Obviously, if your data takes up most of the disk, you will have
problems.  You do need space to make these moves.

The second YES is more remote in my memory.  But I was able to create a
"second c:" drive which was hidden from the OTHER SYSTEM.  This was my
dos 5/desqview setup.  It has a boot manager (or did, Boot magic,
now???) which allowed it to boot to either dos5 or win95 (with a default
choice after a countdown period).  Again, I don't recall what or how but
the manual explained with scenarios how to do what to create a dual
boot, two separate operating system setup.

It does warn you to back up your system but I did not have capacity to
do that.

And, yes, after, I was able to "dissolve" the dos c: drive and
incorporate the liberated space into the existing c:, d: and e: drives.
This does take massaging back and forth as you move partitions
front/back into available space and tell it how large to ultimately make
things.  Again, there does need to be room in some slack space.

And as for speed disk or cleanup, Norton, treats each of those
partitions as SEPARATE drives on the ONE PHYSICAL harddisk.  Just like
if you had done it with fdisk, I suspect.   So what was one c: drive is
now "officially" c: and d: and e:   - just remember that no matter what
they are called, you would still be putting all of your (data) eggs in
one basket.  I now have a second physical drive and that too is divided.
And when I really want to copy or backup, I try to make sure there is a
copy in two partitions on TWO SEPARATE PHYSICAL drives.

Oh, I saw David mention Fat, Fat32.  Partition Magic can handle
conversions between those types (and possibly the nt stuff but I've
never been there).

I have no doubt that one day MS will purchase Partition Magic, improve
on it and it will never work again.  So far though they remain a working
company with a working product.

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 04:34:36 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Recommendations
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>   I think it's just cognitive dissonance -- I keep praying it will have

Well, cog this - the Caps lock key (another hidden gem) is one of the
gold colored shift arrows PLUS the numericpad's ZERO (0) key.  Hold a
gold arrow and press the ZERO.  Undo by the same method.  Scroll lock
(it works and surprises many in 123) is the FN+BACKSPACE.

>   Anyway, to the point of this email, I was wondering what web-browsing
> and offline content-viewing software you all recommended.

Anyway, the point to this response (g) is browers.  Post/lx coupled with
its freeware companion HV (www.dasoft.com) is a commercial offering but
as with any web browsing on the HP is somewhat limited.  Frames, java
etc are really killers.  Nettamer is a shareware product (I've not
followed its url) but has a love/hate interface.  It probably has the
same or other limitation re: java/frames.

Both products do email and I do this LIST via POST/lx and I do it a lot
on my win98 desktop using some emulation tools.  And since it is dos
based, no worry (yet) about visual basic scripts executing either!)

There are also other email options that I don't really follow which
might be free or shareware.  Others will fill you in.

And do NOT worry about being a newbie - we were all there at one time,
some just much longer ago than others! (G)

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 04:34:40 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Scrabble & CAGHLP
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> > Unfortunately, sometimes the CGA colors are just not a good
> > fit on the monochrome screen.
>
> I'm stumped as to how CGAHELP could *not* work, given enough time
> and patience to figure out exactly what colors are being used and

That damn cyan color is about the worst!!!!  I've actually hacked some
programs ages ago when I could find color coding info in the exe.  But
that's also a pain and very experimental!!! BOOM (G)

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 21:38:23 -0700
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              zot2u <zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET>
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HP200LX stuffs:

Enbloc Station with built-in modem and wireless Motorolla modem
Backlight kit
Diskdrive
New Softwares in original packaging:
Intellsync
Windows 3.0
Testdrive, Outrun, many many softwares

Other palmtops in original boxes:
Compaq 2015C Windows CE 2.0 Color Nice! New in the box
        -built in 33.6 modem and browser...ready for internet
Prolinear 3000

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 22:02:53 -0700
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o List $995.00
o CPU 386 SXLV (NEC V30)
o battery 4 "AA" 10-20 hours
o RAM 2BM / 4MB
o ROM 2.5MB
o Keyboard QWERTY full 82 Key Allows Touch Typeing
o Display 640x200 Dual Scan 80x25 Full Screen Display
o I/O 9Pin Serial
o 25 Pin Parallel
o 2 PCMCIA Type II Slots
o Sized Closed: 9-1/2"x4-5/8"x1-11/8
o Software: MS Works 2.0, MS DOS 5.0, PIM Software, PC Link

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 22:08:07 -0700
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It's the 4meg model

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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 22:18:24 +0200
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On Tuesday, 30.05.2000 at 00:50 GMT, Roger S. wrote:
>
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>
IGRlZmF1bHQuIEkgdGhpbmsgdGhpcyBpcyByZWFzb24uDQpJJ2QgY2hhbmdlZCB0aGF0LiBJIGhv

>
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> IGluY29udmVuaWVuY2UgY2F1c2VkLg0KDQoNClJvZ2VyIHMuDQo=
>
The Chinese Editor struck again!  <bg>

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 03:18:58 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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From:         Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPX.4.21.0005310214370.6393-100000@ask.diku.dk>
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why not just use a SCSI pcmcia card and a scsi floppy drive? (scsi floppy
drives for machines i know of off hand SPARC's, NeXT, (MAC's, and
AMIGA/ATARI's of course these arent standard drives) or go with an old
floptical (21meg'er) or a LS-120 SCSI drive?

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 11:48:53 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      WWW/LX - POST/LX and network
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About three month ago I got network access in the office, also to the =
POP3
server.

For email I use POST/LX on top of WWW/LX.

Since SETCOM became available on http:\www.dasoft.com, WWW/LX acts like
plug and play. I don't have to bother, which device I am connecting to.
LXCIC and GREP are indentifing the available port, the rest is down by
a batchfile, which is called by PreOnline (setup post.cfg).

So when I leave the office and use GSM on the raod, it is just a matter
of of plug the modem into the PCMCIA port, or just put the GSM device
next to the IrDA port and go online. Same at home on the local network.

This is very convenient and handy.

POST/LX is configured to use PNS200, which I am used to from filer. As
editor I use PE.

As a result: WWW/LX could be configured easily to meet the requirements
(dhcp, fix IP address). The address book, which is used by POST/LX is
plain ascii, so I could be created easily with an export from Lotus
Notes (about 6000 addresses). - Thanks to Peter Eberl -

I do all my email now on my hp200lx. All WORD docs, which I receive as
attachments, are opened on key press and the information is available
using VIEW.

PDF files are received and converted at:

     PDF-text converter <pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu>
     PDF-html converter <pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu>

This service works fast and flawless.

SMS is integrated in POST/LX, so all information is controlled and
accessible from here.

This part is about 95 percent of my daily business. The rest is XLS and
PPT files.

Does anybody know a tool to convert PPT and XLS files into a format
which could be accessed on the hp200lx? XLS to Lotus would be nice. PPT
I have no idea?!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 13:01:28 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
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From:         Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
Subject:      Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
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Terry,

>I have had good experiences using  LXDR with other lists but
>haven't used it with this one.
>
>Mailing List Digest Reader for DOS
>
>by Rick Kozak
>
>Terry Owen

Rick's Digest Reader works allright with the HPLX-list digest.
However, it's usefulness (to me) seems to be constrained by
difficulties to integrate the "de-digested" messages into
normal POST/LX folders. The other day I asked Rick Kozak in a
message to the list (see below) but got no reply yet.

Regards Winfried

Message to Rick Kozak:
Date:         Wed, 24 May 2000 21:20:56 +0200
From:         Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
Subject:      Re: LXDR help: how to include files into POST/LX folders ?
To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

Rick,

... the program ... works very nicely. The messages can be
individually stored in separate files. However, what I wanted
to do was to include them into normal POST/LX folders together
with other messages I received as separate messages not via
digest.

Can you give me an idea how to accomplish this ?

Thank you very much Winfried

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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wireless Modem?
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Does anyone know where in the U.S. both the card and the service are
available?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Daniel Ho
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:45 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Wireless Modem?
>
>
> Yes, I've seen them used with the HPLX.
>
>
> on 00/5/30 14:42, James Henry at jhenry@comcastwork.com wrote:
>
> > But is there software for use with the 100LX/200LX?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HPLX Mailing List
> Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> >> Daniel Ho
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:59 PM
> >> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >> Subject: Re: Wireless Modem?
> >>
> >>
> >> I've seen adapter PCMCIA cards that have a pull out antenna
> >> and use the same
> >> network as the RIM pagers.  Don't know who carries them or
> >> can activate the
> >> service...  I think for a while, US Robotics branded them.
> >>
> >> d.
> >>
> >> on 00/5/31 12:44, Ken Hansen at n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET wrote:
> >>
> >>> Go america offers serial interfaced wireless services IIRC
> >> - the units
> >>> are relatively big, but contain their own power. They
> would hook to
> >>> the 200LX as a serial modem.
> >>>
> >>> Just a thought,
> >>>
> >>> Ken
> >>> n2vip@bellatlantic.net
> >>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 14:20:14 +0200
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From:         Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
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Dear LXers,

could anybody tell me the valid FAX or telephone number for
TRIUS Inc. PO Box 249, N.Andover, MA 01845 ? I want to
register Draftchoice and the Phone numbers given in the
Registration form (508-794-9377 and FAX 508-688-6312) are not
in service anymore, as I am told by an operator. May I ask
somebody to find out for me via the telephone company ? From
here (Spain) it seems hopeless.

Many thanks in advance
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>>The only electronic address he gave was CompuServe 71247,3542.
>>Can someone please tell me what this means?
>this means his email address should be
> 71247.3542@compuserve.com

Thanks to all who responded to my question. You were all correct of course.
I've now made contact with Doug, and if you're interested, his address is
still the same as stated in the ASILIB12 package.

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 08:48:15 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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the area code has changed to 978

978-794-9377

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              Systems-Consulting <systems-consulting@HOME.COM>
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Winfried,

This data was found using http://google.com/

email: info@triusinc.com
Web: http://www.triusinc.com

TRIUS, Inc., PO Box 249, N. Andover, MA 01845, U.S.A.

Phone: 978-794-9377, Fax: 978-688-6312



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
Winfried Zettelmeyer
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:20 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Draftchoice Registration


Dear LXers,

could anybody tell me the valid FAX or telephone number for
TRIUS Inc. PO Box 249, N.Andover, MA 01845 ?

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 12:31:52 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Xfinder questions
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Wed, 31 May 2000 09:53:00 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again, Eric --

10h39m51s ago ...
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Eric Greenspoon wrote:

>   OK. Please excuse all of the following questions <g>. I couldn't see =
a
> .doc file in the X-finder directory and the finder.env file doesn't =
have
> many explanations.

There should be quite a lot of documentation.  Are you using R.10 from
SUPER?  If so, you should have the following:
        finder.hlp
        finder.txt
        finenv.txt
        finhis.txt
        whatsnew.txt
If for some reason, these are missing, I'll be glad to send them.

>  Would you know how to make an a: drive app show up on the Palmtop =
startup
> screen? I can see various built-in apps listed but no a: drive apps.

Simple.  Just use Memo or your favorite editor to create a file with
the command to start the app.  Save it with any name you like, but the
extension .XFE or .XFM   --   They are almost the same, except .XFE
starts the app immediately, and .XFM asks for verification.  Add the
XF? file to your palmtop subdirectory.  You can then choose an icon
you like, give it the same name as the .XF? file (but extension .ICN)
and add it to your icon archive.  After re-initializing, it will
appear at the end of the palmtop screen.

>  How can I have RAMFlash start every time with c:\ on the left in =
detail
> view and a:\ on the right in detail view (like in Filer)? Can't see =
this in
> finder.env.

The positions are set in ramflash.xfd, and I think they're c: on left,
a: on right.  For the options look for this in the .env:

#Display Icon/List/Detail - Split screen
%w  01022
#   ||||+-Left window                0:Icon 1:List 2:Detail
#   |||+--Right window               0:Icon 1:List 2:Detail
#   ||+---Palmtop screen             0:Icon 1:List 2:Detail
#   |+----Directory screen mode      0:Full 1:Split
#   +-----Palmtop screen mode        0:Full 1:Split

The comments and the parameters in yours will probaby be different.
Look for the %w parameter setting. For detail on both sides the last 2
parameters should be 2.

>  At the moment I can't see the value of having a Windoze-like startup
> screen. Since we are not using a mouse we have to use keystrokes to =
access
> these icons. Why not just have a menu launcher with text? As for all of
> those back-up/restore icons, I can't use them personally. Wouldn't a
> regular backup.bat do the job just as easily?

I'm inclined to agree about the imitation of windoze.  Mine is set up
with the palmtop screen very much like AppMgr.  If you prefer a
text-style launcher, you can set that in the %w parameters

The backup/restore icons work with a small server program (XFS) for the
desktop or laptop that allows XF to access drives on the big machine.
They're set to do complete or partial backups to your other computer.
The entries in the palmtop screen can be added, deleted, renamed, given
long-name aliases, and reordered.  You can customise until you're happy
(or make yourself crazy <g>  ).

This is getting pretty long, so I'd better quit for now.  Keep the XF
questions coming.


Peniel
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Winfried Zettelmeyer" <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: mercredi 31 mai 2000 14:20
Subject: Draftchoice Registration


> Dear LXers,
>
> could anybody tell me the valid FAX or telephone number for
> TRIUS Inc

Try Phone: 978-794-9377, Fax: 978-688-6312

their website is http://www.triusinc.com/index.html

and their e-mail is trius@triusinc.com


HTH

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 13:19:07 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 31 May 2000 10:55:57 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Eric & gang -

In my reply to Eric's XF questions, I oversimplified the process of
adding apps to the Palmtop screen.  There's a "gotcha" if the app uses
support files, and expects them in the same directory.  For these
you'll need launch with either a batch file that changes to the
directory, or by using multiple XF commands (separated by a semicolon)
to do the same thing.


Sorry for any confusion...

Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 12:28:41 -0400
Reply-To:     Owen Samuelson <owensam@mindspring.com>
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From:         Owen Samuelson <owensam@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mileage software in kilometer/litre
Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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Look on SUPER again for the one called "MPG Tracker". It does kilo/litre.
Best regards,
Owen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Teo Soon Bock" <teosb@POST1.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 21:47
Subject: Mileage software in kilometer/litre


> I am looking for a mileage software that shows graph for petrol
consumption
> in kilometer per litre (metric system).  The one available on the SUPER
> site seems to be for miles per gallon.
>
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Actually, the units are L/100Km for MPG Tracker.
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 16:39:00 +0000
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From:         Kat Deutscher <katd@FREEWWWEB.COM>
Subject:      Act - new contacts help

I have one contact item filled in in ACT, but don't see how
to add another person.

What should I be looking for?

TIA
Kat

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 06:46:05 -1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM>
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From:         Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM>
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I have a brute force way of handling the all of my digests.
1. I hilight the subject line in the contents at the top by dragging
across it.
2. copy it by Ctrl-C
3. bring up the "find" screen by Ctrl-F
4. paste it in the "find" by Ctrl-V
5. go to the first message by hitting Enter
6. get rid of the "find" screen by Esc
7. get subsequent messages by Ctrl-G
to get back to the top I click anywhere on the screen to remove the
hilighted subject line and hit Ctrl-G

Give it a try

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:39:19 -0500
> From: Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
>
> I have had good experiences using LXDR with other lists but haven't used it with this one.
>
> Mailing List Digest Reader for DOS
> by Rick Kozak
>
> Terry Owen
>
> At 08:48 AM 05/30/2000 -0500, Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC wrote:
>
> >
> >I remember downloading something the list was talking about (at least a year
> >ago) and trying it, but not being able to make it work with the format THIS
> >list's DIGESTs come in.
> >
--
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 13:09:39 EDT
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              LARRY FELDMAN <lfeldman@USA.NET>
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I'll put in my 2 cents on the Digest issue if I might.

I use WWW/LX. I have all my digests going to a folder called DIGEST. I
also have an empty folder called PARSED. I created a powerbasic program t=
o
insert a seperator between each message, and to direct the output to a
file called PARSED.I . I start this external program with a CONTROL-X (I
entered it as an external program). The new file of individual messages i=
s
created, and WWW/LX (or more specificly POST) indexes the new file when i=
t
returns from the external command. Now I have the origional messages in
DIGESTS, and the exploded messages in PARSED.

I've always hoped D&A would release a utility like this, as I'm sure they=

could do a better job than I (I sometimes get an extra header per
message). To say I'm an amateur programmer is being kind :¬)

Regards to all.

Larry Feldman


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> I have a Palm that I carry when I don't really expect to need
> much but want something just in case.  It weighs practically
> nothing.  I hardly notice it's there.

I have found that when I need something "just in case,"
paper-and-pencil works well.  It even works as a calculator!
And it is easy to sync with my LX!

> They both have their uses and their fans and I think it's a
> little silly to say one is better than the other.  Sure, the
> 200lx is much more powerful.  But better depends on your
> needs.

"Better" is a judgment that you are inferring here.
I am saying the "need" that people have is to avoid typing.
In fact, I predict the next big form-factor revolution will
involve speech recognition, and people will only speak into
their PDAs.  If anyone thinks cell phone usage is getting
obnoxious, you ain't seen nothing yet.

-George

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I use NU for windows. One may use it, including NDD and Speed Disk, on
any partition (one at a time) accessible from the Windows C: drive. I
use it regularly.
AFAIK it cannot be installed on a non-Win drive. I don't suppose
Symantec still have NU for DOS?  My other C:drive has DOS 6.22, with
chkdsk,scandisk and defrag.



> freeway@uia.net wrote:
> >
> > Can you run utilities such as Speedisk on the drive?  If so, do you run it
> > on the entire disk at once, or do you use the proper version for each
> > OS/partition?  By Speedisk I mean a defrag utility and or something
> > equivalent to NDD.
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if yu aint found dit yet
its da furst key next to da ESC key.

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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What you might want to find is the disk drive made for the Radio
Shack / Tandy model 100. It was a serial drive but you could easily
write a driver to access it from another computer. I wrote an access
program for DOS that allowed me to move files from my main
computer to the model 100 via its floppy. The down side was that it
was only 100K single sided. The later model had 200K in a dual
sided version.

Hey! I've got one of those Radio SLack PDD drives. Very cool for its time
-- small, light, and ran on 4 AA cells. It also used 3.5-inch diskettes
instead of the Commodore drive's 5.25-inch floppies.

Pete, do you still have your program? I'd like to try it with my 200LX.

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Subject:      Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
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Wed, 31 May 2000 19:53:10 +0100 (BST)

01h43m31s ago ...
On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:09:39 -0400, LARRY FELDMAN wrote:

> I'll put in my 2 cents on the Digest issue if I might.
>
> I use WWW/LX. I have all my digests going to a folder called DIGEST.

Larry, POST/LX will automatically explode the HPLX-L digest as it is
downloaded if you put

ExplodeDigest=3D1

in your incoming email box section. The HPLX-L disgest header has lines
like:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary=3D"cBYZXGKHWEOXBAMPVGMHMEGUa"

ExplodeDigest=3D1 only works for well-defined digests like these.
The HPLX-L digest is the only one I have seen like this - my others are
sort of "home-grwon" with a variety of formats and separators.

Congrats on that PBasic prog!

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 20:10:43 +0100
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Subject:      Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Wed, 31 May 2000 20:08:05 +0100 (BST)

1 day 05h19m25s ago ...
On Tue, 30 May 2000 08:48:40 -0500 (EST), Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC =
wrote:

> I use Post/LX with CIS for the account that gets the DIGEST, and would =
love
> to have one of those programs that interfaces with Post/LX and "explodes=
"
> the digest for me.

Tim, put

ExplodeDigest=3D1

in your HPLX-L email box section in POST/LX and the digest is
automatically exploded into mesasages as it is downloaded!

Cheers, Tony

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 15:21:38 EDT
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              LARRY FELDMAN <lfeldman@USA.NET>
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Hi Tony,

Yes - I tried the ExplodeDigest=3D1 command, but you really hit the nail =
on the
head with the "home brew" comment. Seems like mime compliant digests (whi=
ch I
beleive this command requires), are becoming few, and far between. Seems =
like
the command only works on a few lists, and those I get in individual e-ma=
ils
(like HPLX-L)!


Tony Hutchins wrote:
> =

> Larry, POST/LX will automatically explode the HPLX-L digest as it is
> downloaded if you put
> =

> ExplodeDigest=3D1
> =


<snip>

> =

> Congrats on that PBasic prog!

Thanks! Really passes the time on my 200!

Larry

> =

> Tony
> =

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 12:58:37 -0700
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No, I just entered some information into mine and it is working fine.  :)

It may not be as fancy as some of the others (past and present), but it still
meets my needs very nicely, and as long as it does so it will not be dead as far
as I'm concerned.  It is all a matter of what works for you.

Sally

The usual disclaimers about my opinions only, not my employers; YMMV; opinions
subject to change with (or without) input of additional information; etcetera.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ian Butler Ýmailto:ian@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 8:31 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Point to ponder?
>
>
> Just something I've been pondering here lately.
>
> Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead?

> snip

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 15:10:30 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Can you run utilities such as Speedisk on the drive?  If so, do
you run it
> on the entire disk at once, or do you use the proper version for
each
> OS/partition?  By Speedisk I mean a defrag utility and or
something
> equivalent to NDD.

Every partion on every computer I have has been either created or
modified by Partition Magic.  I also use Speedisk and NDD and I used
to use the Windows defrag tool and there's never been a problem.  I
have speedisk run automatically overnight on my desktop.  It does a
partition each night for 4 nights.  No conflicts whatever.  I use
NDD instead of Scandisk following crashes and no problems.  Scandisk
works fine too.

I've yet to have my first problem with Partition Magic.  By the way,
I do reformat and recreate everything about once a year.  I always
do that initially with fdisk just because I've been doing it that
way for so many years and at that point I don't have Partition Magic
installed yet.  After everything is installed and I see how much
free space I have on each partition I fine tune with PM.  That's
after doing a fairly complex (but Windows only) partitioning with
Fdisk.  I haven't, as far as I recall, used fdisk after using PM.

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 15:21:00 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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>>>>For the commodore you could in those days buy an external 51/2"
floppy disk =
drive.  Has enyone of you tried to make this work with the
HP200LX?<<<<<

I read an article not too long ago about the C64 drives (1541 I
think).  It said that the drive uses a normal serial connection.  It
didn't actually say RS232 but I suspect that was what it meant.  It
was also pretty slow.  I remember the number 1500 bps  (probably 10
bits per packet making 150 bytes per second). I think that was the
speed of the Apple disk that the C64 disk was being compared with.
I'm not sure.  It might have been the C64's speed.  I do remember
the C64 disk was much slower than the also very slow Apple.

Also, the drive is an intelligent drive.  It has the logic to format
and get directory listings and return files by name.  So writing a
200lx driver probably wouldn't be too difficult if I understand this
correctly.  The main thing would be getting the list of commands for
the drive.  I think I also read that lower level access ins't
possible.

I'm trying to remember an article that I read not too carefully so I
don't promise I have it all right.  But I'm in the ballpark.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 13:50:38 -0700
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              Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
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From:         Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
Subject:      Bigass docking station.

  Hey folks:
  The family I am staying with recently had this happen: the hard drive on
one of my friends' family's computers accumulated massive errors and is
probably worthless.  That leaves them with a dead computer.

  So:  Since I have this case from a Pentium, with a CD-ROM, floppy, etc,
is there a chance of turning it into a docking station for my LX?  I was
thinking about removing the power supply and the floppy and putting them
in a smaller case and using that, having a data connection from the floppy
to the LX, naturally...  Would that work?  Is this just an exercise in
pointlessness?
                                            Nate.


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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 21:04:50 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC wrote:
> I use Post/LX with CIS for the account that gets the DIGEST, and would love
> to have one of those programs that interfaces with Post/LX and "explodes"
> the digest for me.

Instead of subscribing to the digest I suggest you subscribe to the
normal list and use filters in WWW/LX to route the HPLX-L mail to a
separate folder.  This is the Best way to handle the list when using an
LX and WWW/LX.

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 14:06:47 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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For the amount of work to rewire interfaces and getting the sofware drivers (if
either is even possible), it may be a better use of time and money to just buy a
used harddrive and add a PC card reader to the desktop.

If everything else is working on the "dead" computer, the hard drive is usually
the cheapest thing to remedy.

- Longden





Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM> on 05/31/2000 01:50:38 PM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Bigass docking station.




  Hey folks:
  The family I am staying with recently had this happen: the hard drive on
one of my friends' family's computers accumulated massive errors and is
probably worthless.  That leaves them with a dead computer.

  So:  Since I have this case from a Pentium, with a CD-ROM, floppy, etc,
is there a chance of turning it into a docking station for my LX?  I was
thinking about removing the power supply and the floppy and putting them
in a smaller case and using that, having a data connection from the floppy
to the LX, naturally...  Would that work?  Is this just an exercise in
pointlessness?

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              Petty Family <hap_py@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Due to a recent memory upgrade, I am parting with the above referenced
modem/memory card made for the HPLX.  It is a combination 4MB flash  and
14.4K modem card (along with Rom software).  It originally sold for around
$300.  I'll sell it for $85.00 (obo) in it's original box.
Please allow $5.00 for shipping... E-mail me if your interested...
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 18:22:57 -0400
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      Re: Commodore 64 disks
Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Although the C64 drives are not rs232 I seem to remember that
there was an adaptor for them to hook up the the parallel port of an
ibm computer for use with an emulator. If someone is really
interested in this I would suggest reading the docs of the various
C64 emulators for PC clones, one of them had the hookup info I am
sure. I don't think it was a complex hookup either, of course this is
from quite a few years ago.

Pete

On 31 May 2000, at 15:21, Barry wrote:

> >>>>For the commodore you could in those days buy an external 51/2"
> floppy disk =
> drive.  Has enyone of you tried to make this work with the
> HP200LX?<<<<<
>
> I read an article not too long ago about the C64 drives (1541 I
> think).  It said that the drive uses a normal serial connection.  It
> didn't actually say RS232 but I suspect that was what it meant.  It
> was also pretty slow.  I remember the number 1500 bps  (probably 10
> bits per packet making 150 bytes per second). I think that was the
> speed of the Apple disk that the C64 disk was being compared with. I'm
> not sure.  It might have been the C64's speed.  I do remember the C64
> disk was much slower than the also very slow Apple.
>
> Also, the drive is an intelligent drive.  It has the logic to format
> and get directory listings and return files by name.  So writing a
> 200lx driver probably wouldn't be too difficult if I understand this
> correctly.  The main thing would be getting the list of commands for
> the drive.  I think I also read that lower level access ins't
> possible.
>
> I'm trying to remember an article that I read not too carefully so I
> don't promise I have it all right.  But I'm in the ballpark.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 18:26:29 -0400
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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I knew as soon as I said that someone would ask for it. I will hunt
around but I was working on that about 10 computers ago and my
filing system leaves alot to be desired. If I find it I will post
something to the list so people can ask for a copy.

Pete

On 31 May 2000, at 14:28, Bruce Martin wrote:

> What you might want to find is the disk drive made for the Radio
> Shack / Tandy model 100. It was a serial drive but you could easily
> write a driver to access it from another computer. I wrote an access
> program for DOS that allowed me to move files from my main computer to
> the model 100 via its floppy. The down side was that it was only 100K
> single sided. The later model had 200K in a dual sided version.
>
> Hey! I've got one of those Radio SLack PDD drives. Very cool for its
> time -- small, light, and ran on 4 AA cells. It also used 3.5-inch
> diskettes instead of the Commodore drive's 5.25-inch floppies.
>
> Pete, do you still have your program? I'd like to try it with my
> 200LX.
>
> Bruce in Toronto
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 22:30:53 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)?
Comments: To: LARRY FELDMAN <lfeldman@USA.NET>
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> I'll put in my 2 cents on the Digest issue if I might.
>
> I use WWW/LX. I have all my digests going to a folder called DIGEST. I
> also have an empty folder called PARSED. I created a powerbasic program t
> o
> insert a seperator between each message, and to direct the output to a
> file called PARSED.I . I start this external program with a CONTROL-X (I
> entered it as an external program). The new file of individual messages i

You might want to share that???? (G)  That is, if a library can be
found to support it (hint, my question on the program archives was never
answered!!!!)

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              Cavalier Leonard W CRBE <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?
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I think the issue with 14.4K limits on modems in the 200LX is power draw - many modems 28.8K and above want more power than the card slot in the 200 will deliver.  But some folks have found 28.8K+ modems that draw less power and work fine in the 200LX.  I connect at 56K on the COM1 port to a PC, using Transfile, and this says that the UART is capable of at least this speed.

There is probably something on the SUPER site that talks about which higher speed modems people have used with success.


        - Leonard W. Cavalier
          cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Chow Ýmailto:micro@SMARTT.COM¨
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:16 PM
Subject: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?


I recently bought some MIDI software for DOS and am now very curious to know
if it will run on the LX.

What I would like to do is connect a MIDI interface to COM1.  The
MIDI transmission speed for PC compatibles I believe is 38.4 kbps, but I
seem to recall discussion on the list saying the COM1 UART speed is limited,
which is why no modem faster than 14.4k can be used on COM1.

It also seems to me that I transfer files to & from my desktop computer at
57600 through COM1, however.

Sorry if I'm out to lunch.  Can anyone clarify this, or has anyone used an LX
to control MIDI devices?


TIA,

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 19:15:00 -0400
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On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:48:08 -0400 George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
writes:
> "Better" is a judgment that you are inferring here.
> I am saying the "need" that people have is to avoid typing.
> In fact, I predict the next big form-factor revolution will
> involve speech recognition, and people will only speak into
> their PDAs.  If anyone thinks cell phone usage is getting
> obnoxious, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Well, I have seen a speech to text pda at Office Max already.
My reaction: too good to be true, so I went on.

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Subject:      Re: is COM1 fast enough for MIDI?
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On Wed, 31 May 2000 18:56:41 -0400 Cavalier Leonard W CRBE
<CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL> writes:
> I think the issue with 14.4K limits on modems in the 200LX is power
> draw - many modems 28.8K and above want more power than the card
> slot in the 200 will deliver.  But some folks have found 28.8K+
> modems that draw less power and work fine in the 200LX.  I connect
> at 56K on the COM1 port to a PC, using Transfile, and this says that
> the UART is capable of at least this speed.

Hmmm  .  .  .  you talk about the card slot, then you talk about COM1.
Two different animals.  There is no speed issue with the card slot
(COM2) that I know of, only power.   There is no power issue with COM1
(the serial port) that I know of, only speed.

Or have I got this wrong?  I am no expert  .  .  .

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 19:45:58 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Wed, 31 May 2000 09:47:18 +0800, Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM> wrote:

> I am looking for a mileage software that shows graph for petrol consumption
> in kilometer per litre (metric system).  The one available on the SUPER
> site seems to be for miles per gallon.

Check out Mpg Tracker 2.0. I think I found it on Super. It works for
kilometer/liters..I have not used it for a while..but will start
trackin my motorcycle..

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 19:47:09 -0400
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D Dv wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:48:08 -0400 George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
> writes:
> > "Better" is a judgment that you are inferring here.
> > I am saying the "need" that people have is to avoid typing.
> > In fact, I predict the next big form-factor revolution will
> > involve speech recognition, and people will only speak into
> > their PDAs.  If anyone thinks cell phone usage is getting
> > obnoxious, you ain't seen nothing yet.
>
> Well, I have seen a speech to text pda at Office Max already.
> My reaction: too good to be true, so I went on.
>
> Domingo
>

I think I'm with you on this one. I remember the Scientific American
article that suggested that the `net big form-factor revolution would
involve speech recognition'. It was an article about using computers to
recognize speech to automate phone dialing. It was published, IIRC, more
than 40 years ago. Touch-tone phones came along instead...

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 20:01:03 EDT
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Subject:      Turbo Pascal on DS 200LX
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What versions, if any, of Turbo Pascal work well on a DS 200LX?

Thanks.

Michael

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 19:05:37 -0500
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Turbo Pascal 3.01 will definitely work, i think you may be ok up thru TP 5.5
as they
had standard and extended memory enabled compilers if i remember correctly,
but
i havent tried anything past 3.01 which is so tiny that its a great 200lx
dev tool.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Stocker <MichStocker@CS.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 7:03 PM
Subject: Turbo Pascal on DS 200LX


>What versions, if any, of Turbo Pascal work well on a DS 200LX?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Michael
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 17:35:56 -0700
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              Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
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From:         Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
Subject:      Off-topic but not quite Fluff:  Speech recognition

Well... I have Streambox Magicspell on my laptop, which uses couple of
Lernout & Haskie (sic?) speech engines... supposedly the best, from what I
have read.  It takes a while to get acclimatized to your speaking style
but is quite accurate after that -- I think you'd have to have a quite
good desktop computer acclimatize to your voice and then send the data to
the PDA... and then there would be no easy way to edit the mistakes... I
don't see this for a while, no matter how well I like Magicspell :-)
                                       Nate.


David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

>D Dv wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:48:08 -0400 George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
>> writes:
>> > "Better" is a judgment that you are inferring here.
>> > I am saying the "need" that people have is to avoid typing.
>> > In fact, I predict the next big form-factor revolution will
>> > involve speech recognition, and people will only speak into
>> > their PDAs.  If anyone thinks cell phone usage is getting
>> > obnoxious, you ain't seen nothing yet.
>>
>> Well, I have seen a speech to text pda at Office Max already.
>> My reaction: too good to be true, so I went on.
>>
>> Domingo
>>
>
>I think I'm with you on this one. I remember the Scientific American
>article that suggested that the `net big form-factor revolution would
>involve speech recognition'. It was an article about using computers to
>recognize speech to automate phone dialing. It was published, IIRC, more
>than 40 years ago. Touch-tone phones came along instead...
>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 17:59:10 -0700
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Subject:      Re: FS: Thinfax 1414LXM
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I also have one with 2MB that I'd sell for 55$ obo.

Let me know!

Thanks,

Philippe

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From: "Petty Family" <hap_py@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 2:20 PM
Subject: FS: Thinfax 1414LXM


> Due to a recent memory upgrade, I am parting with the above referenced
> modem/memory card made for the HPLX.  It is a combination 4MB flash  and
> 14.4K modem card (along with Rom software).  It originally sold for around
> $300.  I'll sell it for $85.00 (obo) in it's original box.
> Please allow $5.00 for shipping... E-mail me if your interested...
> hap_py@hotmail.com
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:00:42 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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>Date:    Wed, 31 May 2000 12:28:41 -0400
>From:    Owen Samuelson <owensam@MINDSPRING.COM>
>Subject: Re: Mileage software in kilometer/litre
>
>Look on SUPER again for the one called "MPG Tracker". It does kilo/litre.
>Best regards,
>Owen
>

I have searched SUPER for your software, but it could not be downloaded.
Got the message "The file you requested does not exist on this
server...sorry."

I am now trying out Mileage Tracker, which is a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet.
Thanks to Ejnar Zacho Rath <ezr@md-oss.dk> for sending me his template (in
Danish) as a guide for using it to do kilo/litre.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:08:27 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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According to http://www.motorola.com/MIMS/WDG/modemsDir/pm100dnaDir/ , the
Personal Messenger 100D Wireless Modem Card is available from American
Mobile
ARDIS at 1-800-494-1732 (www.ammobile.com).

In the FAQ at
http://www.motorola.com/MIMS/WDG/techLibraryDir/faqsDir/pm100dnaFAQs.html ,
it mentioned that the two-way wireless data network is available from the
ARDIS(sm) nationwide network in the US, and Bell Mobility in Canada.

>Date:    Wed, 31 May 2000 07:34:51 -0400
>From:    James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
>Subject: Re: Wireless Modem?
>
>Does anyone know where in the U.S. both the card and the service are
>available?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
>> Daniel Ho
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:45 PM
>> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject: Re: Wireless Modem?
>>
>>
>> Yes, I've seen them used with the HPLX.
>>
>

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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 18:49:01 -0700
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              Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
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From:         Jewvenile <SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM>
Subject:      DOS problems

*grumble grumble*
I keep getting this odd error.  I downloaded a copy of QBasic (my fav
programming language :-P) that I was told runs well on the 200LX.
Unfortunately, it gave me this error: "Can't execute C:\QBASIC.EXE"  Is
this an extended memory error or what?  I get it with a few other programs
and thought it might be wrong versions or something but I KNOW Qbasic
should run... I love QBasic... I appreciate your help and not abusing the
newbie :-)
                                            Nate.



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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 20:59:47 -0500
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              Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      FS: Quicken 4 for Windows
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Quicken 4 for Windows...this is the version that synchs with Pocket Quicken on
the 200LX.  I'll sell for $10 (plus $2 shipping in the USA).

--
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Date:         Tue, 30 May 2000 17:35:04 -0500
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apreciados seqores,
estoy muy preocupado porque hasta el momento no he recibido mi cable de
conexisn, y les he enviado varios mensajes y no me responden
satisfactoriamente, ya se hizo el dibito de mi tarjeta de cridito, les pido
el favor que pongan cartas en el asunto en esta situacisn y me den una
respuesta para saber como estan las cosas.

Razl Cano Florez

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> This is an email confirmation of your order.
>
> If there are any errors, please contact us at
> orders@thaddeus.com or use contact info at bottom.
>
> Name: RAUL CANO FLOREZ
> Email: frigotec@multiphone.net.co
> Shipping Address: TRANSVERSAL 17#124-85
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> BOGOTA   COLOMBIA
> Phone: 5208162-6129587
> Comments: FAVOR CONFIRMAR ENVIO POR EMAIL
>
> Order:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1    IRFT    Desktop to 200LX IR Transfer Cable (SOS)     $39.95   $39.95
>
> Total # items: 1                                      Subtotal     $39.95
>                                                          Total     $39.95
>
>
> For Handheld PC Magazine orders:
>
> Remember: The actual amount billed to your credit card
> may be slightly higher than shown above if you are an
> Iowa residents: 5% sales tax will be added.
>
> For HP Palmtop Paper orders:
>
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> may be slightly higher than shown above for two reasons:
>
> 1. Save On Shipping (SOS): If you have ordered one or more
> SOS products, a single $5.00 shipping charge (U.S) or
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Date:         Wed, 31 May 2000 22:47:50 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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I have TP 7.0 working on the Palmtop. In the past I used TP 3.02 on the HP
95LX where it is a very good fit.

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