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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 05:31:50 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 2000 Lexicomp drug handbook for 200LX
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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> On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>
> > we (hplx-l doctors) should get together and share input as a team
>
> The hp200.medical newsgroup on news.hplx.net is ready and waiting.  :)

As are all those other nice "forums" that I routinely visit but never
see anyone using!!  I guess folks like this general potpourri where most
folks hang out.

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:52:31 +0800
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From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: PROGRAMMING PROJECT- INTERESTED?
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Hi There,

> Jorgen,
> Where did you get the idea that the HP200LX is more powerful than
> the Communicator?

Sorry, wrong choice of English words. What I ment was that Nokia only
has a 9600 connection and with 200LX we can get a higher modem
connection speed, but also use a ethernet card (which I would do if a
VCN client for the 200LX was available).


Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:52:33 +0800
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Subject:      Re: pppd help
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Hi,

Sounds exactly like the same I had. I tried for a long time to configure
DOSPPP and couldn't get it to work. First use EPPPD.EXE instead and then
you change 'modem' in your configuration file to 'local'. Now I wouldn't
be surprised if your modem will work! :)

Regards,

Jorgen


> I have just got my new modem and am having some problems getting it to =
work.
> I am trying to get dosppp and lxtcp working.
>
> I have run the d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
> I have configured a file c:\bin\dosppp\ppd.cfg
>     com2
>     38400
>     modem
>     asyncmap 0
>     connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT908459122401 CONNECT"
>     user "user1"
>     passwd "hello"
> I then CD to c:\bin\dosppp and run pppd.exe
> I get the following error:
>     Abnormal Program Termination
>     PPP link is down, driver not installed
>
> Ideas anyone?
> I am guesing that once I have run pppd and the connection is up I can =
then
> run lxtcp and the other client programs.
>
> I am using the 56k modem from thadeus and the att global network as an =
isp
> (attempting to anyway!!)
>
> Thanks
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Mark Johnson
> Network Support Consultant
> Ordina UK Ltd
> (+44)161 832 9506
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=
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=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4
>

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Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:02:43 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I have a 2216-2 card and I belive that Tomas Moberg got one too. It
> works very well. I have used both RJ-45 and BNC and have not gotten
> any warning about the power usage. I do not know if it draws more
> power than the 2216-1, but it does not draw more power than the Hp can
> supply. So the only drawback is the dongle I guess. The 2216-1 dongle
> is smaller.

It draws about 250m-300ma when the dongle isn't plugged in, so watch out
for that.  It does draw far more power than the -1 card.  And the BNC
connection is not supposed to work at all on the 200LX.

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:03:39 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: PC Card modem for cel & 200LX
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If anyone needs an Apex 33.6K Mobile Plus, I have an extra or two.

J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 02:28:13 -0500
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              joe <joetech@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Appt Manager to Outlook converter
Comments: To: "CDR Brian McIlvaine, USN" <Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
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Dear Brian,
I just got some info at S.U.P.E.R. site regarding the Adbio and Dbtul
programs
for sychronize on Ms Outlook. I didn't tried yet, may be it can solve your
problem.
Please visit http://www.palmtoppaper.com/synching.htm for more info.
Talk to you later.
Joe Tech

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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 3:40 PM
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Subject: Appt Manager to Outlook converter


I am unable to get this to work in transfering appointments from the HPLX
to Outlook 97. I have tried both copy the Appt.adb file as a whole and also
just exporting from the current date into the future, but the only thing
that gets processed is one todo item. Does anyone have any ideas about how
to fix this?

Thanks,

Brian

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:19:55 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 31 Mar 2000 12:27:12 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > does anyone know if PKZIP returns an errorlevel if it had problems
> > creating a ZIP file? A few days ago I made a backup before deleting my
> > whole C drive, because I gave my main 200LX unit to my brother. I
> > THOUGHT I made a backup. PKZIP didn't finish because it had not enough
> > room on A. to create the backup ZIP file and terminated. I didn't
> > recognize it and deleted my C: drive........
>
> It sure does, and my backup batch file makes heavy use of them.  If you
> want I can send you the batch file for an example.

Hey I want a copy too. I have noticed that I have made backups that I
thought was okey and later discvered that the file was never created
because of it ran out of discspace. It has not resulted in disater yet,
but you can't be to sure..

If you could post me a copy too I would be gratefull

TIA

--
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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:13:01 -0100
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              Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE
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Hello,

can somebody with a little experience please help.
If this has been answered already - sorry, I crashed a
previous mail folder.

Q1: Am I right that ccLXPOP does not delete the INCOMING.MAI
and INCOMING.NWS files after I run "cclxpop recvmail" or
"cclxpop recvnews", or just "cclxpop"?

Q2: If my assumption is correct, can I somehow catch an
errorlevel from ccLXPOP that lets me do a conditional erase
in my batch file.

Q3: I assume that the ccLXPOP configuration parameters
"spooldir", "ccpath", and "cclxpop.sigfile" accept any
drive and path. Correct?

Q4: I cannot get the "appendhdr" parameter to make any difference.
Is anything wrong with my CFG file?

Q5: Lastly, I do not get any signature for unknown reasons.

I have attached my CCLXPOP.CFG and would like to have a look
to other's to study them, especially when they differ from the
default ones.

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; 29.03.00 NG ccLXPOP Configuration File
;The following are required entries:

spooldir="a:\tcpip\mail\"       ;same spooldir as LXMTA / LXPOP / LXNNTP

ccpath="a:\_dat\mail\"          ;Location of ccmail files

from="Norbert_Giese@T-Online.de" ;From for outgoing messages/news

;The following are optional, but recommended

timezone="-0100"        ;Offset from UT/GMT. Set to "0000" if not here

;The following are optional

sentfolder=2    ;Folder number sent mail is put into. Can be any folder.
                ;"Gespeicherter Nachrichtenordner" (fixed by ccMail).
                ;
outboxfolder=1  ;Outbox folder generated by ccMail
                ;"Ausgang: CCMAIL"
                ;
appendhdr=1     ;1 = add header info to end of message, else trash
                ; Does not work! Cannot see any differences in outgoing.m*.

verbose=1       ;1 = Provide a lot of detail regarding incoming messages.
                ;2 = only attached files are noted.

; cclxpop.sigfile=c:\_dat\mail\exsigfil.txt
cclxpop.sigfile=a:\tcpip\outgoing.sig
                ; Does not work!
                ; Any path, name, and type allowed?
                ; With or w/o quotes? (see spooldir and ccpath)
                ;



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Thank you
Norbert

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:10:28 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Accton / Other network cards
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> > I have a 2216-2 card and I belive that Tomas Moberg got one too. It
> > works very well. I have used both RJ-45 and BNC and have not gotten
> It draws about 250m-300ma when the dongle isn't plugged in, so watch =
out
> for that.  It does draw far more power than the -1 card.  And the BNC
> connection is not supposed to work at all on the 200LX.


Basis this note I tried a ActionTec 56k modem that draws 300ma in the
lx.  It worked only if i plugged it in to the rj45 before inserting the
card.  I got this with the 660lx that i dropped aand broke.
oh www/lx worked great on this configuration.

Tim

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:28:57 -0500
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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An 800 upgrade would require essentially a whole new motherboard. You'll
never be able to get an 800 performing like a P3, without sacrificing some
or all of the features that make it such a standout (I'm not talking about a
major design-build effort by a laptop manufacturer). The best you'd be
likely to do is replace the 166 MHz processor with a 200 MHz on the existing
board. Boosting RAM beyond 80 MB is also unlikely; RAM boosts in the 200
only increase disk space. The OB800 will take (user replacable) drives up to
8 GB without driver patches. EZ-Gig makes a patch to go beyond that. It
takes almost any standard PC Card around (although some work better with OS
upgrades), and can run most modern operating systems (I've had one running
Win2K in Beta versions for somewhere in the vicinity of a year - long enough
I can't remember more closely). SCSI on board and PCI/ISA slot on the
docking station give still further expandability. In short, RAM and
processor speed are about all you *can't* upgrade on the 800.

For more information, sign up on the Omnibook mailing list (see my post
below).

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Isopoint/Glidepad, but I miss the Paw on
500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -

>
> Date:    Fri, 31 Mar 2000 05:28:00 -0800
> From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> Subject: Projects (fwd)
>
> Can anybody help this person?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:45:22 +0300
> From: S.Wootton <wootton@starcom.co.ug>
> To: david@hplx.net
> Subject: Projects
>
> I hope you could help me I am lookinr for some one who up grades the best
> little computer (HP Omnibook 800 CT) is there such a firm or person I have
> been looking at all the new notebooks and no one has come near what was
the
> defined design. rather like the HP 95 /100 /200.
>
> All the Best.
>
> S.Wootton
> Tel ++ 256 41 267145            Fax ++ 256 41 267159
>
> Date:    Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:12:30 -0500
> From:    Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 29 Mar 2000 to 30 Mar 2000 (#2000-118)
>
> > Date:    Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:59:28 -0500
> > From:    Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
> > Subject: Re: Clik! or ZIP on 200LX
> >
> > >Really?  How old is this notebook computer?  What make and model?
> >
> > >Every single notebook computer I have used for years now has had at
least
> > >one DIN connector for keyboard/mouse.  To connect both at the same time
> just
> > >requires a Y-cable.
> >
> > >Alan
> >
> >   Oddly enough, the notebook is an HP Omnibook 425, circa '94.
> >
> > >that are available.  If your notebook has a USB port already,
> > >then you would be all set.  If not, then there are PC Card USB
> > >interfaces that you could use.
> > >
> > >Stan
> >
> >   Stan would you know if these PC Card USB interfaces require any
drivers
> > to get the keyboard working and is that a problem?
>
> Yes, Win95 OSR2 .5 or better. IOW, not on a '425.
>
> You might want to sign up for the Omnibook listserv. E-mail
> listproc@elektro.cmhnet.org stating SUBSCRIBE OMNILIST (yourname) from the
> address you want to post.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> jonzann@altavista.net
> Isopoint/Glidepad, but I miss the Paw on
> 500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
>  - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -
>

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 06:44:42 -0800
Reply-To:     patrickwest@uswest.net
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David,

If you could, I would love a copy as well. I've used PkZip
for years and never even thought of using return codes to
control bat files.

Better yet post a copy of the bat file(s) with your comments
on super.

>

> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > > does anyone know if PKZIP returns an errorlevel if it had problems
> > > creating a ZIP file?

> > It sure does, and my backup batch file makes heavy use of them.  If you
> > want I can send you the batch file for an example.

Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Hey I want a copy too.
--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>  pgp 2.6.2 key
fingerprint =  33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4  7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E
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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:09:53 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: pppd help

Mark Johnson writes:
> I have run the d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

Run lxcic instead if you have the memory.

> I have configured a file c:\bin\dosppp\ppd.cfg

Should that be pppd.cfg ?

>     user "user1"
>     passwd "hello"

If your ISP uses MSChap, then it won't work.  Hopefully your
ISP is not stupid enough to only support Micro$loths
bastardised version of CHAP.

> I then CD to c:\bin\dosppp and run pppd.exe

Is it finding the configuration file o.k. ?

You will have to run epppd.exe for LXTCP.

> I am guesing that once I have run pppd and the connection is up I can then
> run lxtcp and the other client programs.

Yep.

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:02:15 -0500
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Sat, 1 Apr 2000 03:20:59 +0200
> From:    Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
> Subject: OT: Conversion Lat/long to UTM
>
> Hi LX-GPSers,
>
> can anybody tell me the algorithm to convert a track in
> lat/long coordinates into UTM ? I could do it feeding the
> lat/long points into the GPS an changing the display to UTM,
> but for the 2000 points I have this is too cumbersome and I
> would like to do it in LOTUS.
>
> Thanks in advance !
> Winfried
>

Try National Geodetic Survey, here:
http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PC_PROD/pc_prod.shtml

Do you know which geoid your current Lat/Long points are in? That'll make a
difference, too.

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Isopoint/Glidepad, but I miss the Paw on
500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -

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Subject:      Re: X-Finder R.11 Beta 8
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Martin,

> > http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm
> >
> > New features include wallpaper display and IR connection with Seiko's
> > Ruputer.
>

> Cool. I am not sure the Ruputer is availible here in Europe yet. I have
> seen some articles about it, but not seen it in the shops yet. How is
> it? Could you write a short review of its features?

Please see my X-Finder test page at

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm

There I included a link to Seiko's English page, which then gives you
a link to the partner company in U.S. (onHand). I do not know what
happens to its availability in Europe.

Basically RUPUTER is a wristwatch which runs DOS (a subset I suppose).
A 3-line serial interface on the left-hand side, IR interface on the top
side.  A small cursor bar on the bottom. There are for buttons, which
works as follows:
  MENU: toggle menu screen
  ENTER: select the menu
  LIGHT: Switch on the back light (switches off automatically after some
         time --  duration configurable)
  FILER: switch to/from FILER
         Note: Press down FILER key for a while pulls up a clock window

The user interface is very similar to the game console of Nintendo
Entertainment System (1st generation), where you can do everything with
cursor keys and A and B buttons.

The bundles software is PIM tools (Memo, Schedule, Address Book, To do,
Don't Forget, Family Memo) and games, which runs on Ruputer and the link
and sync software, which runs on Windows or on Mac.

The link between HP200LX and RUPUTER was made possible, thanks to the
work of Rei Katsuka, who wrote the following utility programs, which
runs on DOS of HP200LX.
  RULI (RUputer LInk for LX)
  RUPA (RUPuter Address Converter for LX)
  RUPIC (RUputer PIm Converter for LX)

RULI links a HPLX with a Ruputer via IR port. Support a DOS-like command
line interface to HPLX, which works as a remote console for a Ruputer.
Commands are: ul (upload), dl (download), del, rd, cd, md, dir, tset
(set time), tget (get time), cp (copy), ren (rename), neg (negotiate),
end, rst (reset), bat (show battery level), ver, chk (chkdsk) and fmt
(format). Also the package contains various icon files for the Ruputer
file types (ideal for X-Finder).

RUPA converts Ruputer's ADR and INI files to and from CSV format. Image
files are converted to ICN format and a command string for IPEX is
supplied automatically.

RUPIC converts Ruputer's various file (TXM, TDO, DFM, FMM, MMP, SND,
STW, INI).  TXM (Memo), FMM (Family Memo), DFM and TDO (ToDo) are
converted to/from CSV (comma separated variables) format. MMP (bitmap)
are converted to/from ICN format. Ruputer's SND files are converted
to/from HPLX's SND files.

On the other hand, X-Finder R.11 Beta 6 (11-FEB-2000) first supported IR
connection with PC (earlier version supported the wired serial line
connection only).

And finally, X-Finder R.11 Beta 7 (17-MAR-2000) bundled XFS (X-Finder
Server) for Ruputer.  XFS.EXF (.EXF is a Ruputer's exec file) runs on
a Ruputer and makes Ruputer's drives as remote drives on X-Finder on
HPLX.

Using a Ruputer together with HPLX gives you an entire new experience,
compared with using Ruputer with Windows Link software. Particularly so
if you use X-Finders sophisticated user interface.

Toshiki Sasabe
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I would like to export (convert) a spreadsheet file into a comma-delimited
text file that I can inport into some software.

Is there a way to do it?

Thanks

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:34:00 -0800
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I have (8) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are in
very
good condition. They have only been used a very few times on  testing a
customer's prototype products at work. I am selling (1) 20 Meg disk for
$35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I will sell (2) 20 Meg
disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I also have (6) 20 Meg name
brand Sandisks  available as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
$40.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging and I will sell (2) 20 Meg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping. Last but not least, I have
obtained (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk name brand Simple Technology. I
only have one and I know this will go fast since as soon as I posted
what I had last time . I received about
10 emails to purchase them. I am selling  (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk
for $85.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I accept Money Orders
only! and you can mail payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I recieve your payment  and let
you know that your disks our on the way. I always send out disks the
very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I
will mail them out on Monday. Please email me back and let me know if
you are interested and when you are sending payment so I can hold your
disks for you. The response on
this group has been just great and the people I have worked with have
been just Awesome!

Thanks alot!  Scott

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:10:26 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I don't believe 123 has a generic CSV export.

If the software that was going to use the data ran on the LX, I'd use some 3rd
party software to do the conversion.  I use the CONVERT program from the Simtel
site (CONVR803.zip) which converts between a variety of formats including wks
and csv, directly on the 200LX.

If the software was going to run on a desktop/laptop, I'd just read the 123 file
into Excel and write it out as a CSV.... lots easier than the CONVERT program.

- Longden





Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> on 04/01/2000 09:03:50 AM

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Subject:  1-2-3: parsing and exporting




I would like to export (convert) a spreadsheet file into a comma-delimited
text file that I can inport into some software.

Is there a way to do it?

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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Tells me that if I get one, I'd better stick with the -1 card and forget
the BNC. Tnx for the info.

Bob

David Sargeant wrote:
>
>
> It draws about 250m-300ma when the dongle isn't plugged in, so watch out
> for that.  It does draw far more power than the -1 card.  And the BNC
> connection is not supposed to work at all on the 200LX.
>
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I've had W2K on my P233MMX desktop w/64MB. Kinda slow. Any evaluation
running W2K on the OB800?

Bob

Jon Barrett wrote:

> upgrades), and can run most modern operating systems (I've had one running
> Win2K in Beta versions for somewhere in the vicinity of a year - long enough

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<<<<in my old Compaq 386 NB there is one PS/2 connector for mouse
_or_
keyboard, I tried a Y-cable, but unfortunately it failed to work.
It seems to depend what kind of NB you use.
But it is worth a try.>>>>

I'm not sure this is true in the 386 Compaq notebooks but in the 486
LTE Elite I think I remember that you could use a special Y cable
supplied by Compaq to use a mouse and a keyboard.

My Thinkpads also have a special Y cable available for that purpose.
You might look into it.

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Read it into Excel and then export it into the format you want. If you
don't have Excel, try some other spreadsheet that will read *.wk1 files.

The disk versions of Lotus may be able to do that, but don't remember
for sure.

Bob

Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> I would like to export (convert) a spreadsheet file into a comma-delimited
> text file that I can inport into some software.
>
> Is there a way to do it?
>

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I'd like a copy also.

OT: I have tried with version 2.5 pkzip -rp -exx running a mini-32 bit
boot system in ITS's EZ-Imager to archive the whole W95 disk. Had errors
on a few files when extracting that caused it not to work properly. (I'm
trying for more compression that Ghost or EZ-Imager gives and FAT16/32
conversions.)

Thanks.

Bob

David Sargeant wrote:
>

> It sure does, and my backup batch file makes heavy use of them.  If you
> want I can send you the batch file for an example.
>
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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:43:27 -0600
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              Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      FS: WWW/LX v1.0
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WWW/LX v1.0                     $15 (plus $2 shipping in the US)

--
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    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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              Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
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>In order to use USB. you would need the latest Win95B but
>Win98is preferred.  I suppose the PC Card interface for USB
>comes with a driver and the USB keyboard has a driver.  I have
>never used either of this devies, but my experience with USB
>has been very positive so far.


 There-in lies my catch-22. My HP OB425 isn't powerful enough to run Win
95/98.
I run Win 3.1 (quite satisfactory). Is it possible to use a USB device on a
pre-Win 95 machine?



 -Eric

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EXP Thinfax Data Travler 336E PCMCIA modem               $40 (plus $3.20 the US)

Complete with external AA battery pack.  This unique PCMCIA modem comes with an
external AA battery pack to prevent depleting the internal battery on your palmtop.

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XJ2144 modem                  $25 (plus $2 shipping in the US)

14.4k bps.  No dongles to lose!  Low power...perfect for your palmtop.

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:58:47 -0800
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              Ashwin Balan <husk316@YAHOO.COM>
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Comments: To: Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Is this still for sale?
Thanks
Ashwin

--- Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET> wrote:
> EXP Thinfax Data Travler 336E PCMCIA modem
>     $40 (plus $3.20 the US)
>
> Complete with external AA battery pack.  This unique
> PCMCIA modem comes with an
> external AA battery pack to prevent depleting the
> internal battery on your palmtop.
>
> --
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> http://www.hisword.net/tom
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> The latest Arachen v1.61 was release two days ago.
> I tried v1.60 and it does run faster (compare to v1.51) in a 48M Sandisk
> CF plugged into my 1x machine. But there is still problem when
> displaying some of the graphic (icons) on CGA screen.
> I'd downloaded v1.61 (bug fixed and 10~20% speed improvement, according
> to the mail I got)yesterday, together with 16bit.apm and telnet.apm, but
> don't hv time to try it yet.
> 16bit.apm is "Package for backward compatibility with 16bit systems
> (PC AT/XT, eg. HP-LX palmtop). Installs 16bit DJPEG and disables 32bit
> PNG2BMP convertor. Size 57 KB"

I downloaded 1.61, and the 16bit.apm and tried it out. The first thing I
noticed was how slow it downloaded pages, but a little testing showed that
light sleep is the problem.

Using an Accton card and LXEN2216 I downloaded a file from a local
machine. The file was simple html, no graphics. I was not using an
adaptor. Results are:

Normal mode             2k/min
Pressing ALT key       12k/min
Light sleep disabled   80k/min

With light sleep disabled, or on an adapter, it looks like it would be
usable. I haven't tried it using a modem though.


For a real world test, I went to www.palmtop.net, still with light sleep
disabled. It took about 2 minutes for it to download the page, and render
it on the screen. Most of this time was to "adjust" the multiple tables
and the image map. When it was finally done, it was a pretty good
representation of the page. Unfortuneately, none of the links would work.
I tried to manually enter another url to visit, and Arachne crashed.

A visit to ebay's search page had similar problems. The page looked ok,
but none of the links would work.

For less complex pages it seems to work well for the limited testing I've
done. Also, I have not tried to optimize the configuration any.

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:24:08 -0800
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Subject:      Re: FS: WWW/LX v1.0
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Tom Hoover wrote:
> WWW/LX v1.0                     $15 (plus $2 shipping in the US)

I hope whoever buys it understands that this version is not
supported and there is no migration from it to the current
version.

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Jeff Malka wrote:
> I would like to export (convert) a spreadsheet file into a comma-delimited
> text file that I can inport into some software.
>
> Is there a way to do it?

If you mean the formulas etc. it may not be as useful. But
for data I have used COmMADLM.ADN - I believe it is on
SUPER. It is a very capable add-on "program" to 123. Works
well on the palmtop and like lightning on the OB800CT.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Meyer" <bmeyer@union-tel.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Jon Barrett"
<jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 30 Mar 2000 to 31 Mar 2000 (#2000-119)


> I've had W2K on my P233MMX desktop w/64MB. Kinda slow. Any evaluation
> running W2K on the OB800?
>

About the same as W98 for performance - both OB800/166 80 MB. The Win98 had
6 GB HDD, the W2K had 4 GB HDD. Plug & Play was better but I wasn't able to
get hot or warm docking working (some legacy drivers, probably). This was,
remember, with beta code. Networking was improved. I got the 900 just for
W2K; I may use my tester's or MSDN copies of it on one of the 800s just for
the consistency.

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Isopoint/Glidepad, but I miss the Paw on
500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -

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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Thank you all.  Using Excel it worked just fine.

Thanks.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
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From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: 1-2-3: parsing and exporting


> I don't believe 123 has a generic CSV export.
>
> If the software that was going to use the data ran on the LX, I'd use some
3rd
> party software to do the conversion.  I use the CONVERT program from the
Simtel
> site (CONVR803.zip) which converts between a variety of formats including
wks
> and csv, directly on the 200LX.
>
> If the software was going to run on a desktop/laptop, I'd just read the
123 file
> into Excel and write it out as a CSV.... lots easier than the CONVERT
program.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> on 04/01/2000 09:03:50 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  1-2-3: parsing and exporting
>
>
>
>
> I would like to export (convert) a spreadsheet file into a comma-delimited
> text file that I can inport into some software.
>
> Is there a way to do it?
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I am just making sure I am getting the list. I haven't received anything
in about 12hrs.

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:38:31 +0200
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On 31 Mar 2000 22:03:39 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > I have a 2216-2 card and I belive that Tomas Moberg got one too. It
> > works very well. I have used both RJ-45 and BNC and have not gotten
> > any warning about the power usage. I do not know if it draws more
> > power than the 2216-1, but it does not draw more power than the Hp can
> > supply. So the only drawback is the dongle I guess. The 2216-1 dongle
> > is smaller.
>
> It draws about 250m-300ma when the dongle isn't plugged in, so watch out
> for that.

Hm.. I have not seen this. I usually use the RJ-45 at home. When I am
finished I usually unplug the dongle without ending Www/lx. If it draws
as much as you talk about should'nt I see this as a drop in voltage? I
am trying out Abc/Lx and I can not see any drop when I unplug the
dongle. I get no "bios" batterywarning at all.

>  It does draw far more power than the -1 card.  And the BNC
> connection is not supposed to work at all on the 200LX.

I do not use the BNC that much, but I get no warning or anything else
when I use it. I have not seen any dramatic drop in battery life
either when using BNC.

How could I check if the things you tell is the case?

Regards

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:55:30 -0500
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<<<<< The best you'd be
likely to do is replace the 166 MHz processor with a 200 MHz on the
existing
board. Boosting RAM beyond 80 MB is also unlikely; >>>>

I didn't see the start of this so maybe this isn't something you
care about, but I've read that the early Pentiums and Pentiums with
mmz (the P166 would be one of these) have a bug that causes their
cache to stop working if there is more than 40 meg ram installed.
It doesn't just not work on the ram above 40 meg.  It shuts the
cache down entirely.

This was a long topic on comp.sys.laptops a few months ago if anyone
wants to look it up.

Barry (who has an old P166 Thinkpad with 80 meg :)

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> can anybody tell me the algorithm to convert a track in
> lat/long coordinates into UTM ? I could do it feeding the
> lat/long points into the GPS an changing the display to UTM,
> but for the 2000 points I have this is too cumbersome and I
> would like to do it in LOTUS.

If you have these points in digital format it will be a simple
matter to use qedit to make a comma delimited file from it that will
go into lotus very nicely.  If you want the values in a column, just
put a linefeed after each.

If this is a list of numbers in text this whole process shouldn't
take more than a minute or two for someone familiar with qedit.
Another minute will be needed to get them into Lotus.

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According to Scott Mueller it is 64 meg.

Barry wrote:
>
> I've read that the early Pentiums and Pentiums with
> mmz (the P166 would be one of these) have a bug that causes their
> cache to stop working if there is more than 40 meg ram installed.
> It doesn't just not work on the ram above 40 meg.  It shuts the
> cache down entirely.
>
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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 10:22:44 -0500
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I just realized I said in an earlier post that the older pentiums
cache stops working if it has more than 40 meg installed.  The
correct number is 64 meg.  I'm not sure why I said 40 meg.  Maybe I
was dreaming. :)

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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My daughter's been getting into her computer (literally) and had sent me this
tidbit a few days ago, that's relevant to the cache discussion.  At the time, we
were making a decision how how much to upgrade her sister's circa 1995 Micron
Pentium (100mhz) computer's RAM (originally at 16mb):

>>>>>>>>>
I just learned that the Pentiums introduced in 1995 used a chipset that
could only cache memory up to 64mb (even though they supported 128mb).
This means that installing more than 64mb on one of these machines would
actually send the performance downward rather than upward.  This is
because Windows loads applications into the top addresses first, which
means that if we had 128mb, it would load into the uncached 64mb area
rather than the cached 64mb.

Cached memory is monitored by the chipset's cache controller, which loads
data into the processor's L1 and L2 caches before the processor actually
needs it.  60ns memory is 16mhz, so If the processor has to access data
from this memory, it has to slow down from it's normal speed to 16mhz.
(I believe the fastest memory available is 100mhz)

The idea behind the cache is to have the data ready for the processor
before it actually needs it; it predicts what data will be needed next.
Thus, if there is a cache hit (a correct prediction), then the processor
accesses the data at the speed of the cache rather than the speed of
memory.  The L1 cache is full-speed (the same speed as the processor), so
there is no slow-down, but the L2 cache can be 1/2 speed or full-speed,
depending on the system.

So if the data that needs to be accessed is not in cached memory, then
the processor can only access the data at the speed of the memory.
<<<<<<<<<

- Longden  (who's usually dreaming even while wide awake)






Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> on 04/02/2000 08:22:44 AM

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Subject:  Correction about what I said about pentium cache




I just realized I said in an earlier post that the older pentiums
cache stops working if it has more than 40 meg installed.  The
correct number is 64 meg.  I'm not sure why I said 40 meg.  Maybe I
was dreaming. :)

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:47:27 -0500
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You're correct.  I'm not sure why I was thinking 40 meg.  I sent
another post a few minutes later explaining that I had used the
wrong number.

Barry

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> According to Scott Mueller it is 64 meg.
>
> Barry wrote:
> >
> > I've read that the early Pentiums and Pentiums with
> > mmz (the P166 would be one of these) have a bug that causes
their
> > cache to stop working if there is more than 40 meg ram
installed.
> > It doesn't just not work on the ram above 40 meg.  It shuts the
> > cache down entirely.
> >
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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:54:21 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> does anyone know if PKZIP returns an errorlevel if it had problems
> creating a ZIP file?

Yes it does, they are listed in the manual.  Get the complete shareware
version from the Pkware web site.

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Date:         Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:53:06 +0100
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              Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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Is this in all OS or only in Windoze?
Is there a software solution for this?

-goe- (who has a ThinkPad 166 too ...)


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Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 3:55 PM
Subject: Boosting a P166


> <<<<< The best you'd be
> likely to do is replace the 166 MHz processor with a 200 MHz on the
> existing
> board. Boosting RAM beyond 80 MB is also unlikely; >>>>
>
> I didn't see the start of this so maybe this isn't something you
> care about, but I've read that the early Pentiums and Pentiums with
> mmz (the P166 would be one of these) have a bug that causes their
> cache to stop working if there is more than 40 meg ram installed.
> It doesn't just not work on the ram above 40 meg.  It shuts the
> cache down entirely.
>
> This was a long topic on comp.sys.laptops a few months ago if anyone
> wants to look it up.
>
> Barry (who has an old P166 Thinkpad with 80 meg :)
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephan Goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>


> Is this in all OS or only in Windoze?
> Is there a software solution for this?
>
> -goe- (who has a ThinkPad 166 too ...)

It's in all of the early pentiums.  They fixed it in the P2.

I'm not sure about the early Celerons but it's fixed in the new
Celerons.

It doesn't matter which OS you use.

Depending on how you use your computer, the extra ram might help
more than it hurts.  If you're running very ram hungry programs like
imaging packages, or if you're running a lot of programs at the same
time, the added ram will cut down on the amount of swapping to disk
and give you more speed than you lose by not having the cpu cache.

But if you run only one program at a time and it's not a really
resource intensive program the extra ram will result in a little
slower operation.  I've heard numbers like 5% to 15%.  I don't think
there's any way to really know how much.  There are too many other
factors determining speed and it's probably different for everybody
and every program.

If you're happy with the speed of your computer, I wouldn't worry
about it.  I put 80 meg in mine the day I got it so I never used it
with the cache working.  I didn't find out about this till I'd had
the computer over a year.  I was perfectly happy with it's speed
before I knew so I didn't really worry about it.  I have a newer,
faster Thinkpad now.  But I still use the old one for a number of
things and I still don't feel like it's slow.

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:27:05 -100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM
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Bob,

Just use the smtp server of the ISP you are logged in at this point in time :

 Logged in with freewwweb -> use freewwweb smtp
 Logged in with union-tel -> use union-tel smtp

In order to always _receive_ your mail in the same POP3 box set your FROM:
field to the same value for all the smtp you use i.e. not bob@freewwweb.com
or bob@union-tel.com but rather bob@myusualpop3box.com

  \/
  /ves

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:22:33 -0400
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To: Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>

No, as far as I know, there is no way Windows 3.1 will support
USB.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:40:38 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Al, has this person been able to sign up yet?

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Subject: Extra Storage ?

For some reason Unable to sign up to HPLX-L@uconn....
PLS FWD to list (THKS in advance)
How about using the Greystone TA-50
(Type Adapter/Adaptor with external Power supply)
Should be able to use any HD (except SCSI)
Date: Sun Mar 19 2000 - 13:08:15 EST
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Cliff Crittenden wrote:
>Is anyone having success using the Simple Tech. 48 Meg Compact Flash in the
>HP 200LX?
Yep, it works great and is very quick. It uses more power than Sandisk
cards do, though, at least in the 200LX. However, in most any other
device, the Simple Tech cards perform better and use the same power a
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Theodore Heise wrote:

> I specify the chat script in the call to eppd from a batch file,
> as in:
>
>   eppd file pppd.%1 connect "chat -t120 -fchat-%1.%2"


I should have mentioned that you don't need to make this
call in this way--it will work fine from the pppd.cfg file
if you have everything specified properly.

Ted

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              ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM
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My last access to the list was March 28. I still get the Digest
which is a back up to the increasing unreliability of Compuserve.
I am in Hong Kong today and although I can log on at 26.2 on a
33.6 modem, the speed looks like 14.4 which is what w2 in the init
string reports. When I remove w2 from the init string, PostLX
indicates 26.2.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a POP3 service with wide
global access. Credit cards dont work for all 3 of my modems
except with trial and error manual dialling, so I really need
global service. Compuserve has become so unreliable in the last 6
months for email and web access.

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              FRiC <frac@POBOX.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Correction about what I said about pentium cache
In-Reply-To:  <882568B5.005A077A.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> from Longden Loo at
              "Apr 2, 2000 09:11:32 am"
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This is not entirely true, and it all depends on the chipset used.
For example, the Intel 430HX chipset can cache up to 4 GB, while
the 430FX, and the (newer!) 430VX and 430TX have the 64 MB limitation.
Non-Intel chipsets can usually go up to 4 GB too.

If you upgrade to a K6-III on one of these old Pentium boards, the K6-III's
internal L2 cache caches up to 4 GB too.

Memory, cached or uncached, is always faster than swapping to the hard
drive anyway...


> My daughter's been getting into her computer (literally) and had sent me this
> tidbit a few days ago, that's relevant to the cache discussion.  At the time, we
> were making a decision how how much to upgrade her sister's circa 1995 Micron
> Pentium (100mhz) computer's RAM (originally at 16mb):
>
> >>>>>>>>>
> I just learned that the Pentiums introduced in 1995 used a chipset that
> could only cache memory up to 64mb (even though they supported 128mb).
> This means that installing more than 64mb on one of these machines would
> actually send the performance downward rather than upward.  This is
> because Windows loads applications into the top addresses first, which
> means that if we had 128mb, it would load into the uncached 64mb area
> rather than the cached 64mb.
>
> Cached memory is monitored by the chipset's cache controller, which loads
> data into the processor's L1 and L2 caches before the processor actually
> needs it.  60ns memory is 16mhz, so If the processor has to access data
> from this memory, it has to slow down from it's normal speed to 16mhz.
> (I believe the fastest memory available is 100mhz)
>
> The idea behind the cache is to have the data ready for the processor
> before it actually needs it; it predicts what data will be needed next.
> Thus, if there is a cache hit (a correct prediction), then the processor
> accesses the data at the speed of the cache rather than the speed of
> memory.  The L1 cache is full-speed (the same speed as the processor), so
> there is no slow-down, but the L2 cache can be 1/2 speed or full-speed,
> depending on the system.
>
> So if the data that needs to be accessed is not in cached memory, then
> the processor can only access the data at the speed of the memory.
> <<<<<<<<<
>
> - Longden  (who's usually dreaming even while wide awake)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> on 04/02/2000 08:22:44 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Correction about what I said about pentium cache
>
>
>
>
> I just realized I said in an earlier post that the older pentiums
> cache stops working if it has more than 40 meg installed.  The
> correct number is 64 meg.  I'm not sure why I said 40 meg.  Maybe I
> was dreaming. :)
>
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If U had time, I would sure appreciate a copy.

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:54:44 EDT
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How does one load/use scandisk on the HP200LX?

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 22:45:56 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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   >How does one load/use scandisk on the HP200LX?
Message-Id: <20000403024550.FVJC22495.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.7¨>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:45:55 +0000

I have a copy of SCANDISK from my Win95 system .... around 142k.  Also a
SCANDISK.INI, both copied from the \windows\command directory.

Scandisk /? will give you a nice rundown of the options.

Scandisk /mono gears it nicely for the LX screen.  It gives an error about
a long filename, but other than that it seems to work (tho I don't use it
regularly).

I know some people have said it fixed problems that were otherwise
unfixable on the LX... but I forget the details.

- Longden

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Folks,

I now have a Deskjet 500 inkjet printer. I have a serial cable for my
hp200lx.
Now what setting do I need set where on the deskjet to tell it to accept
control from a serial port?

What setting do I need to use on the 200lx to get it to print from
internal apps or DOS?

I have a dos program, ntm, I want to print from.  The dos program
includes drivers for the laserjet and the deskjet. Or I can print to an
ASCII text file.

I can print from this program, ntm, on my desktop using lpt1. I can
print from my 200lx to my hp2100 laserjet at work using the jeteye
driver and running a bat file with the following two lines:
serctl /i
mode lpt1:=com1:

However I can't get anything to print from my 200lx to the Deskjet. So I
assume there are some user settings on the DJ500 that I can set to make
it work.

Any ideas?  Pointers to information?

I only need to print between one and three pages once a week on Tuesday
Evening.



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Date:         Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:24:44 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Joseph Buford wrote:

> May be the difference between the Simple Tech and the Sandisk. Hows
> the hit on Battery life?

Sandisk cards use much less battery power in the 200LX because they allow
the palmtop to go into light sleep mode.  The Simple Tech cards, for some
unknown reason, disable that and the palmtop is always running at "full
speed ahead."  The 200LX is slow enough that both cards run the same speed
(extremely quickly -- nearly as fast as the internal RAM drive) in it.

In other machines, though, they use the same power, from my measurements,
and the Simple Tech cards are much faster.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:56:41 MEST
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>This is not entirely true, and it all depends on the chipset used.
>For example, the Intel 430HX chipset can cache up to 4 GB, while
>the 430FX, and the (newer!) 430VX and 430TX have the 64 MB limitation.
>Non-Intel chipsets can usually go up to 4 GB too.

A co-worker told me that it depends on the size of the TAG-RAM too.

>If you upgrade to a K6-III on one of these old Pentium boards, the K6-III's

>internal L2 cache caches up to 4 GB too.

Now the question fo me is, if I can upgrade my ThinkPad 760ED to a K6 ???
But I think this is no question for this list, except the fact, that I use it
for Backup and LX connectivity.

-goe-

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:01:30 MEST
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Subject:      Re: Deskjet 500 dip switches
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>I now have a Deskjet 500 inkjet printer. I have a serial cable for my
>hp200lx.
>Now what setting do I need set where on the deskjet to tell it to accept
>control from a serial port?

I asked the same questions some time ago. It seems to me, that you need:

+++ a null modem adaptor
+++ on both sides the same baud rate (9600)

Then it should run. I didn't have the time to test it.

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 2000 23:56:37 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Barry wrote:
> I just realized I said in an earlier post that the older pentiums
> cache stops working if it has more than 40 meg installed.  The
> correct number is 64 meg.  I'm not sure why I said 40 meg.  Maybe I
> was dreaming. :)

You were probably thinking in hexadecimal! :-)

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:51:08 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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Has anyone tried the CompacFlash network cards? I beleive Xircom do a 10/100
one that is v-low power (50-60ma)??

---------------------------------------------------------------
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Network Support Consultant
Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:17:58 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Hm.. I have not seen this. I usually use the RJ-45 at home. When I am
> finished I usually unplug the dongle without ending Www/lx. If it
> draws as much as you talk about should'nt I see this as a drop in
> voltage? I am trying out Abc/Lx and I can not see any drop when I
> unplug the dongle. I get no "bios" batterywarning at all.

Nope.  I didn't notice a drop in voltage when I'd unplug the dongle,
although often if I plugged the card in without the dongle (or often even
with it on) and the 200LX on, it would go into the famous "Backup mode."

I found out about the current usage by hooking up a current meter to the
200LX and measuring it.

> I do not use the BNC that much, but I get no warning or anything else
> when I use it. I have not seen any dramatic drop in battery life
> either when using BNC. How could I check if the things you tell is the
> case?

Hook up a current meter and measure usage from the batteries.

The book even states that using the BNC connection takes about 270ma or
so.  Either your card is very exceptionally low-powered, or your palmtop
is extremely rugged, or your palmtop is being fried.  <g>

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:10:49 -0400
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              "CDR Brian McIlvaine, USN" <Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
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Comments: To: "Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE" <Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE>

Norbert -

answers embedded below:
mail folder.

Q1: Am I right that ccLXPOP does not delete the INCOMING.MAI
and INCOMING.NWS files after I run "cclxpop recvmail" or
"cclxpop recvnews", or just "cclxpop"?

That is correct. In my batch file, I delete these before running cclxpop recvnews or cclxpop recvmail.

Q2: If my assumption is correct, can I somehow catch an
errorlevel from ccLXPOP that lets me do a conditional erase
in my batch file.

Nope. ccLXPOP pretty much assumes the world is a kindler, gentler place.

Q3: I assume that the ccLXPOP configuration parameters
"spooldir", "ccpath", and "cclxpop.sigfile" accept any
drive and path. Correct?

Should.

Q4: I cannot get the "appendhdr" parameter to make any difference.
Is anything wrong with my CFG file?

Appendhdr is suppose to apply to INCOMING messages. The outgoing messages header info is generated when emailing.

Q5: Lastly, I do not get any signature for unknown reasons.

I have had two people report this. Not sure what the solution is.

Brian

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stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch wrote:

> I asked the same questions some time ago. It seems to me, that you need:
> +++ a null modem adaptor
I have a real serial cable that works with a modem nicely.
> +++ on both sides the same baud rate (9600)
>
> Then it should run. I didn't have the time to test it.
>
> -goe-

> >I now have a Deskjet 500 inkjet printer. I have a serial cable for my
> >hp200lx.
> >Now what setting do I need set where on the deskjet to tell it to accept
> >control from a serial port?
>
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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:31:08 -0500
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              Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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From:         Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      Re: FS: WWW/LX v1.0
In-Reply-To:  <20000401124327.Q730@hisword.net>; from lists+hplx@hisword.net on
              Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:43:27PM -0600
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>>> WWW/LX v1.0                     $15 (plus $2 shipping in the US)

A Meshar (sponsor@FTEL.NET) wrote:
> I hope whoever buys it understands that this version is not
> supported and there is no migration from it to the current version.

Your message seems to insinuate that I was trying to mislead someone into
buying an obsolete, worthless, piece of software.  If you get down to it,
the palmtops that we all use are obsolete, but are still VERY useful.

> this version is not supported

Are you stating that v1.0 quit working when the newest version of WWW/LX was
released, or only that it's is no longer supported by D&A (since you'd
obviously rather have the buyer spend nearly $100 on the latest version)?  If
v1.0 stills works, then it should still be a useful piece of software to
someone.

> there is no migration from it to the current version

If v1.0 still works, and someone is on a budget (i.e. not wanting to spend
nearly $100 on the latest version), then this should be a good deal.

The package is priced for those who want WWW/LX (especially for its web
browsing capabilities), but do not want to part with nearly $100.  I'm not
planning to use it, and I'd just like to see someone get some use out of it.

If, however, v1.0 no longer works, let me know and I'll dump it in the trash.
Otherwise, I hope that this excellent deal helps someone who cannot afford to
spend much more money on the latest version.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:20:10 -0700
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I believe the Simple Tech cards and the Microtech cards both use the
latest , fast Hitachi controller.  http://www.microtechint.com
Incidentally.
Provantage,  http://www.provantage.com   probably has the better prices
on Sandisk, Microtech, Kodak, Kingston -- you name it -- CF cards.

Ray Simons
ray.simons@juno.com

On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:24:44 -0800 David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
writes:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Joseph Buford wrote:
>
> > May be the difference between the Simple Tech and the Sandisk.
> Hows
> > the hit on Battery life?
>
> Sandisk cards use much less battery power in the 200LX because they
> allow
> the palmtop to go into light sleep mode.  The Simple Tech cards, for
> some
> unknown reason, disable that and the palmtop is always running at
> "full
> speed ahead."  The 200LX is slow enough that both cards run the same
> speed
> (extremely quickly -- nearly as fast as the internal RAM drive) in
> it.
>
> In other machines, though, they use the same power, from my
> measurements,
> and the Simple Tech cards are much faster.
>
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Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:16:19 -0500
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: switch settings for deskjet 500
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Patrick
I haven't used my Deskjet 500 with the 200LX for a few years but I'm
pretty sure I haven't touched the switches since then
.
This is a deskjet model C2106A serial number 3222A28823
Looking at the front of the printer there are 2 DIP switches.
Both switches have all toggles in the down position.
I am less sure about which printer driver I used although I know it was
one of the built in ones, either epson or ibm.

Do make sure you have the right adaptor on the end of your cable, I used
the 9 pin to 25 pin adaptor from the connectivity pack that has a little
printer logo molded into it. I suspect this is not a straight through
adaptor

Andrew King
IIT Physics
Chicago 312-567-3021
technology is the answer, what was the question?

Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:08:34 -0700
From: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject: Deskjet 500 dip switches

Folks,

I now have a Deskjet 500 inkjet printer. I have a serial cable for my
hp200lx.
Now what setting do I need set where on the deskjet to tell it to accept
control from a serial port?

What setting do I need to use on the 200lx to get it to print from
internal apps or DOS?

I have a dos program, ntm, I want to print from.  The dos program
includes drivers for the laserjet and the deskjet. Or I can print to an
ASCII text file.

I can print from this program, ntm, on my desktop using lpt1. I can
print from my 200lx to my hp2100 laserjet at work using the jeteye
driver and running a bat file with the following two lines:
serctl /i
mode lpt1:=com1:

However I can't get anything to print from my 200lx to the Deskjet. So I
assume there are some user settings on the DJ500 that I can set to make
it work.

Any ideas?  Pointers to information?

I only need to print between one and three pages once a week on Tuesday
Evening.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:49:05 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Please see my X-Finder test page at
>
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm
>

Is  there any possibilty of someone writing an XFS for the Mac?

Also, where can I find out more about creating X-Finder wallpaper? What are the
dimensions and the file format?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:51:36 +0100
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I regularly clean up my appointment book file by doing a
File->Remove, remove all appointments before a date and save
them in a apptYYMM.adb (YY=year, MM=month).

I have noticed with dbcheck 1.61 that the produced files are
sometimes corrupted. Is this a bug in the appointment book
remove function, or something that dbcheck does not recognize?

The error in dbcheck -d is:
        APPT9911.ADB:
        Ý...¨
        ----------------------------------------------
        location: 4577  length: 62  record number: 581
        ToDo
        Desc&ription: Do this
        Start &Date : 11/01/1999
        D&ue Date   : 0
        Completion Date: See record number 77
        Data error: record number 77 doesn't exist
        &Priority   : 3
        &Carry Forward = X
        &Note: none
        Cate&gory:
        Yearly  = X
        repeat every 1, months: Nov, on day 1
        Beginning 11/01/1999 until 11/30/1999
        Number of exception dates: 1: 11/01/1999;
        Previous link: 37
        Next link: 0
        Found in recurring list
        ----------------------------------------------

Strange is that opening the APPT9911.ADB file I cannot find the
To-do item with the error (doing F10, F4, and typing the text
of the to-do item)

Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:51:47 +0100
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From:         Paulo Custodio <paulocustodio@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Password and scheduled jobs in appointment book
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I use a scheduled batch file in the appointment book to do
a backup to my flash card over night. This has been working
well until I have setup a power-on password, with the "password"
command.

Now the appointment book starts the batch file, but then the
hplx powers itself down after some seconds, because no password
was given. The batch job is stopped, and the backup is not made.

Is it possible to have both, a power-on password and a scheduled
batch file in appointment book?

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:18:34 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
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John Barret and Barry

thanks for your help. I did import the 2000 points into LOTUS
before without a problem (similar procedure to Barry's). The
question, in fact, was to to convert the lat/long data,
already kept in LOTUS, into UTM coordinates. I had also tried
to convert the lat/long points to UTM with the GPS (the most
significant points only, as converting 2000 points by hand was
impossible). However, results were poor due to the low
precision with which lat/long data can be input into the (my)
GPS (Apollo Precedus). The area I want to plot is about
250*250 meters, so precision has to be at least about 5
decimals of geographical seconds, as compared to one decimal
of a second my GPS allows.

I am aware that the mathematics of conversion are not simple,
approximations do not work, especially at the degree of
resolution required. For the moment I have solved the problem
by overlaying the UTM Map with a lat/long grid, plotting
lat/long data. But it would be nice, of course, to use UTM
maps directly.

Thanks again and best regards
Winfried

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:33:49 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Password and scheduled jobs in appointment book
Comments: To: paulocustodio@yahoo.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
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>Is it possible to have both, a power-on password and a
>scheduled batch file in appointment book?

I don't think so.

I don't use password protection myself, but I doubt there's anything that could
be done to deactivate it before the power-on (since doing anything will
essentially require it to be already powered on).  Others may prove me wrong ...
I'm not a big believer in "trusted systems".

- Longden





Paulo Custodio <paulocustodio@YAHOO.COM> on 04/03/2000 11:51:47 AM

Please respond to paulocustodio@yahoo.com

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Password and scheduled jobs in appointment book




I use a scheduled batch file in the appointment book to do
a backup to my flash card over night. This has been working
well until I have setup a power-on password, with the "password"
command.

Now the appointment book starts the batch file, but then the
hplx powers itself down after some seconds, because no password
was given. The batch job is stopped, and the backup is not made.

Is it possible to have both, a power-on password and a scheduled
batch file in appointment book?

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:06:20 -0700
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              Brent Geske <brent_geske@MENTORG.COM>
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From:         Brent Geske <brent_geske@MENTORG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Deskjet 500 dip switches
Comments: To: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <200004030401.VAA24479@relay1.wv.mentorg.com>
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At 09:01 PM 4/2/00, you wrote:
>I now have a Deskjet 500 inkjet printer. I have a serial cable for my
>hp200lx.
>Now what setting do I need set where on the deskjet to tell it to accept
>control from a serial port?
>
>...
>
>Any ideas?  Pointers to information?

You might look at <http://www.hp.com/cposupport/prodhome/dj500.html>.  I poked around for a few minutes (didn't find anything right away), but you might be more successful than I.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:27:50 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: WWW/LX v1.0
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Tom Hoover wrote:
>
> >>> WWW/LX v1.0                     $15 (plus $2 shipping in the US)
>
> A Meshar (sponsor@FTEL.NET) wrote:
> > I hope whoever buys it understands that this version is not
> > supported and there is no migration from it to the current version.
>
> Your message seems to insinuate that I was trying to mislead someone into
> buying an obsolete, worthless, piece of software.  If you get down to it,
> the palmtops that we all use are obsolete, but are still VERY useful.
> --
> Tom Hoover N5NTM <tom@hisword.net> - http://www.hisword.net/tom

Don't read things into something which were not said ;-)  From your
signature I read that you are prominently advocating christianity which
includes peace, love, forgiving ... There is no need to flame.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:28:03 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      sorting databases with PalmEdit
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PE allows creation and handling of simple ASCII "databases". I use it
to store away info retrieved from e-mail lists like this one.

Sometimes I'd like to sort these "databases" as you would sort e.g.
your phonebook. On some database files I get an error "record too big"
when trying to do a F7-sort operation.

Anybody else observing the same Or using the sort function of PE ?

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:47:35 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@HIWAAY.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@HIWAAY.NET>
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:27:50 -0400, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Don't read things into something which were not said ;-)  From your
> signature I read that you are prominently advocating christianity which
> includes peace, love, forgiving ... There is no need to flame.

Hmmm.....

11th Commandment - Thou shall not flame.

Jeff

               -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF --
               --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department  --
               --         Birmingham, Alabama USA         --
               --         Email: jeffj@hiwaay.net         --
               --   Address all complaints to /dev/null   --

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:49:33 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      New 32 and 64 200LX's
Comments: cc: Circ <Circulation@thaddeus.com>
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To our great  surprise last week we received 72 new 200LX's from our
distributor that were on back order since October.  (We were told by HP that
we wouldn't get them). We have been out of stock since February.

I believe this availability is an anomaly and you won't see many other new
ones around. HP confirmed to me (numerous times) that it will not make more
-- even large orders.

We will sell these only as 64 meg or 32 meg. (We have a standing order and
could sell most as 8 meg to one company).  Currently, 96 megs are out of
stock, and Mack doesn't know when he will be able to order more.

We will sell these new 200LX's on a first come, first served basis (we've
already sold 10).  If interested, call at 800 373 6114 or email us at
orders@thaddeus.com.

In a month or so I expect to be able to share a number of extremely positive
and exciting developments on the 200LX front, some that have been hinted at
here and some new developments.

Bottom line: We expect to be supporting 200LX's for at least 2 to 3 more
years!

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:49:56 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: WWW/LX v1.0
Comments: To: Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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Tom Hoover wrote:
> >>> WWW/LX v1.0                     $15 (plus $2 shipping in the US)
>
> A Meshar (sponsor@FTEL.NET) wrote:
> > I hope whoever buys it understands that this version is not
> > supported and there is no migration from it to the current version.
>
> Your message seems to insinuate that I was trying to mislead someone into
> buying an obsolete, worthless, piece of software.  If you get down to it,
> the palmtops that we all use are obsolete, but are still VERY useful.

My message states exatly what it does, without any
interpretations at all. The phrases "version is not
supported" and "no migration" are clear.

These phrases say nothing about your truthfulness, honesty
and veracity - those items are not in dispute or discussion
here. These phrases say nothing about the product's ability
to work or not either. Those are your own additions, and I
cannot imagine what prompted you to come out swinging.

> > this version is not supported
>
> Are you stating that v1.0 quit working when the newest version of WWW/LX was
> released, or only that it's is no longer supported by D&A (since you'd
> obviously rather have the buyer spend nearly $100 on the latest version)?  If
> v1.0 stills works, then it should still be a useful piece of software to
> someone.

I am stating that the product is not supported. The leap
from that to "it does not work" is unnecessary and uncalled
for. I speak of support for the product, not whether it
works or not. I speak of migration to the current version,
not about misleading anyone.

> > there is no migration from it to the current version
>
> If v1.0 still works, and someone is on a budget (i.e. not wanting to spend
> nearly $100 on the latest version), then this should be a good deal.

If WWW/LX Version 1 works for you and your prospective
buyer, then it is a good deal. I tell this to customers who
ask if they should upgrade or not. My (relatively) stock
answer is: "If everything works satisfactorily for you,
enjoy it and don't change."

> The package is priced for those who want WWW/LX (especially for its web
> browsing capabilities), but do not want to part with nearly $100.  I'm not
> planning to use it, and I'd just like to see someone get some use out of it.

In truth, I find browsing less and less satisfactory. I
also tell this to customers and prospective customers. The
Web is rapidly filling up with features that HV cannot
support and less and less of the web is accessible to HV.

That you try to find a home for the package is a fine move
- I am always pleased that our customers think enough of
our product to sell it to someone else.

> If, however, v1.0 no longer works, let me know and I'll dump it in the trash.

I know of many customers who still use WWW/LX Version 1. A
lot depends on the ISP they use. We made VERY substantial
changes to the product since 1996, incorporated into
approximately 20-25 versions, and 2 version changes.

> Otherwise, I hope that this excellent deal helps someone who cannot afford to
> spend much more money on the latest version.

I hope someone will buy it and enjoy it too. I wish you and
that person best of luck.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:31:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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From:         "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
Subject:      56k modem
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I have been using a 56k pcmcia modem that draws 300ma in my 200lx.   I used
to get the low battery warning, but now if I plug the modem into the wall
first then the 200lx I don't get the warning any longer.

I don't know anything about electricity, but I don't want to hurt the 200lx.

Is there any problem with this setup?

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
N: 29.716837 W: -95.462008

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:58:58 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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From:         "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
Subject:      FS: Random House Webster's Electronic Dictionary and Thesaurus v.
              1.20
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I have a used copy of the Random House Websters Electronic Dictionary
& Thesaurus College Edition For Sale. Instant access to 180,000 words with
definitions and 275,000 Synonyms. Besides a normal look up of a word, It
allows a look up via a definitions search and wildcard search. Requires 5.6
MB to install. It is on 3 1/2" floppy disks. This package originally cost
$99.99 I am asking $30.00 which includes shipping within the United States.

Please email me direct if your interested.

Rodger
rbird2@mich.com

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:46:28 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<<I just learned that the Pentiums introduced in 1995 used a
chipset that
could only cache memory up to 64mb (even though they supported
128mb).
This means that installing more than 64mb on one of these machines
would
actually send the performance downward rather than upward.  This is
because Windows loads applications into the top addresses first,
which
means that if we had 128mb, it would load into the uncached 64mb
area
rather than the cached 64mb.>>>>>

There was some discussion of this in the same thread on
comp.sys.laptops.  According to some people who seemed to know what
they were talking about (but who knows) this was the initial
explanation for the slow-down but it turned out not to be the cause.
That in fact the cache shut down completely if more than 64 meg was
installed.

By the way, there was also mention in this post of a 100 mhz limit
on ram but I think sram can be much faster and I think sram is used
for the cache.  I'm certainly no engineer so I could be wrong about
this.  I'm just a simple programmer and this is not my area of
expertise.  But I think it's right.  Maybe someone who knows more
can speak up.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:54:33 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Subject:      Re: Correction about what I said about pentium cache
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----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@ftel.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: Correction about what I said about pentium cache


> Barry wrote:
> > I just realized I said in an earlier post that the older
pentiums
> > cache stops working if it has more than 40 meg installed.  The
> > correct number is 64 meg.  I'm not sure why I said 40 meg.
Maybe I
> > was dreaming. :)
>
> You were probably thinking in hexadecimal! :-)

Well, that would make a convenient excuse.  But I think I just
screwed up.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:57:12 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      FS: Brand new 6 MB Sandisk Type II flash cards for sale
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi.
I have a few 6 MB Sandisk Type II ATA flash cards which I don't need.
They are brand new except plugged into my LX to make sure they work.  I
bought them in a bulk pack, so there is no box or manual.  Speed seems to
be slightly slower than my 48 MB Sandisk Compact Flash card, and about
the same as my 40 MB Simple Tech Type II ATA flash card.  Battery life is
similar to my Sandisk CF card and much better than the Simple Tech card.
They're nice cards for backing up your C: drive or for storing a large but
rarely used program or database.
I'll sell for $20; price includes Priority Mail shipping in the US.
Please reply OFF THE LIST.

Thanks!
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:27:08 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      FS: (Off-topic) Franklin Digital Book System + medical software
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi.
Although this has nothing to do with the LX, I know there are a few
medical types on the list, and we're all gadget freaks.  I have a Franklin
DBS-2 Digital Book System which accepts Franklin's little digital book
cartridges (like dictionaries, the Bible, etc).  I have a few medical
cartridges for it: 27th Edition of the Washington Manual, 1995 PDR, and
the Medical Letter Guide to Adverse Drug Reactions.
The device itself is about the size of an HP-11/12/15/16 calculator.  It
can hold two books at a time.  It has a 4-line LCD display.  I got this
secondhand from a friend, but I never used it much.  It's in good working
shape.  There is some case wear on the corners, but it is only cosmetic.
It has the box, manuals, and vinyl case.
The price sticker says $129 including the Washington Manual.  Does $50
plus shipping for the whole package sound OK?

If interested, let me know OFF THE LIST.

Thanks!
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:59:30 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: 56k modem
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Kelley, Timothy P wrote:

> I have been using a 56k pcmcia modem that draws 300ma in my 200lx.  I
> used to get the low battery warning, but now if I plug the modem into
> the wall first then the 200lx I don't get the warning any longer. I
> don't know anything about electricity, but I don't want to hurt the
> 200lx. Is there any problem with this setup?

Extremely bad.  The 200LX is only rated to supply 150ma to the PCMCIA
port.  Using a modem that draws more than that is asking for trouble
... I'm not sure what kind of trouble, exactly, but I suspect damage to
the PCMCIA power supply (which also controls the screen and ÝI think¨ some
other things) is extremely likely, at the very least.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:16:34 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Toshiki Sasabe <toshis@MBA.SPHERE.NE.JP>
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From:         Toshiki Sasabe <toshis@MBA.SPHERE.NE.JP>
Subject:      Re: X-Finder R.11 Beta 8
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
In-Reply-To:  <852568B6.005C62DC.00@MLILHUB01@manulife.com>
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:49:05 -0400
Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> wrote:

> Is  there any possibilty of someone writing an XFS for the Mac?

I have heard from the author of X-Finder (Gaku Nakagawa) that he also
receives this request but, not being a Mac user himself, cannot write
one.  Probably someone else can port XFS to Mac, based on his source
code.

> Also, where can I find out more about creating X-Finder wallpaper? What are the
> dimensions and the file format?

Wallpaper is in a simple ICN format (with no compression). Can be
written by INT5F. example

  struct img {
    int plane                   /* always =1 */
    int bitsperpixel            /* always =1 */
    int width                   /* =640 */
    int height                  /* =200 */
    char imagedataÝ(640+7)/8*200¨
  };

Smaller sizes can be used.

Regards,

Toshiki Sasabe
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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:18:49 -0400
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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A Meshar (sponsor@FTEL.NET) wrote:

> In truth, I find browsing less and less satisfactory. I
> also tell this to customers and prospective customers. The
> Web is rapidly filling up with features that HV cannot
> support and less and less of the web is accessible to HV.


This development from my horizon is not unambigous,more and more get =
aware about that there are such things as pocketcomputers and open up =
special links for them.

The leading swedish financial paper has recently open up one site just =
for handhelds and I have no problem to reach every link there.The same =
for several daily papers here,they even offer special handheldservices =
like sunscribing to news Tv-programs etc.

As late as last week I mailed the Swedish Television and asked them why =
they haven't a link for handhelds,the webmaster has promised me to open =
up such one soon.Ýnagging helps:)¨


So atleast for me my usefulness of the hv on the web has increased and =
will increase even more in the future while more people/institutions/enter=
prises get aware of that handhelds are more common and will be even more =
common.



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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:06:43 MEST
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>You might look at <http://www.hp.com/cposupport/prodhome/dj500.html>.
>I poked around for a few minutes (didn't find anything right away),
>but you might be more successful than I.

As I mentioned earlier: No word about dip switches. It's a shame that they have
no idea of information architecture!! I searched the information 2 hours with
no luck!

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:11:36 +0100
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English PG DN

Teilnehmerliste: Stand 04.04.00 11:00 Uhr

Am Samstag, den 6. Mai 2000, 15.00 Uhr findet wieder unser
traditionelles Internationales hp handheld Meeting statt.

Teilnehmer zum Zeitpunkt als die Email versendet wurde:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Emil Usunov
 Hans Peter Staber

 Organisation: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Ort:          M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Termin:       06.05.2000 15.00 Uhr bis open end

Das Seehaus liegt im Englischen Garten, am Klein Hesseloer See.

Adresse: Klein Hesselohe 3, 80802 M=FCnchen, Tel. +49-89-381 61 30.

Auf dem Isarring in Richtung Osten, zwischen John F. Kennedy
Br=FCcke und Effner Platz, dem Schild folgen > Seehaus. Parkplatz
ist vor der T=FCr.

Einen Auszug aus dem Falkplan, (GIF Datei, Schwarz/Wei=DF oder Farbe),
versende ich gerne auf Wunsch.

Wir freuen uns auf Euer Kommen!

Herzlicher Gru=DF

Helmuth und Caroline
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English (short version):

List of participants, date 04/03/00, 11.00 am

Saturday Mai 6th 2000, 3.00 pm our traditional international hp handheld
meeting will take place.

Participants when email was sent:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Emil Usunov
 Hans Peter Staber

 Organization: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Place:        M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Date:         05/06/00 3.00 pm open end

More details on request.

Looking forward to meet you there.

Regards

Helmuth and Caroline

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:13:55 +1200
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              John <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
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Hello
From the DJ500 manual (1991!) the "Mode Function Switches"
(DIP) default is all down and for USA 9600 8bit No Parity
this is the normal setup
Here in metric New Zealand, I have switch A(left)6 up for
A4 paper size

The switch layout is:
A1~A4 for Character Set (all down=PC-8)
A5+A6 for paper size    down+down=USletter 8.5x11"
                        down+up=A4 210x297mm
                        up+down=US Legal 8.5x14"
                        up+up=envelope US10/Euro DL
A7 for Carriage Return  down=CR only  up=CR+LF
A8 for perforation skip down=enable  up=disable

B1 for Text Scale Mode  down=63 lines  up=66lines/page
B2 for graphics density down=75dpi  up=300dpi
B3 for terminal Mode    down=disable  up=enable
B4+B5= Serial Baud Rate down+down=9600  up+up=1200
                        down+up=19200  up+up=2400
B6+B7=Parity&Word length down+down=NoParity+8bit (same as up+up)
                        down+up=Odd+7bit  up+down=even+7bit
B8 for RS232 handshake  down=Xon/Xoff+DTR  up=DTR

The serial trick is an HP cable with HPLX 9>25pin printer adaptor
(which I suspect has a null modem function)

Cheers
John
NZ

Stephan Goeldi wrote:
>
> >You might look at <
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/prodhome/dj500.html>.
> >I poked around for a few minutes (didn't find anything right
away),
> >but you might be more successful than I.
>
> As I mentioned earlier: No word about dip switches. It's a shame
that they have
> no idea of information architecture!! I searched the information 2
hours with
> no luck!
>
> -goe-

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Date:         Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:13:21 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> I don't know if this is something you could fix by yourself by
> disassembling the LCD.  This is certainly not a job for the
> inexperienced and I don't recommend it.

Horizontal lines, if they're caused by a loose or broken ribbon cable, can
not generally be fixed at all.  The ribbon cable (on the right of the
screen) is heat-sealed to the glass of the LCD and if it gets pulled or
torn, the display is essentially "lined" for good.

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:59:10 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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Is there a version of Perl available for the 200lx?

---------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Johnson
Network Support Consultant
Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 05:35:19 -0400
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              74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Subject:      wwwlx on ob430q
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Hi all!

I am trying to set up my  copy (registered) on my OB 430.
i have installed palrun/wwwlx/pe/hv and it runs, but i use a pcmcia
modem in the "a" slot ot the ob430.  I note that wwwlx allows one to
set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
address com4?  i have an old ob 1200 baud modem but it is too slow.
Then, i can log one and hopefully get operational.

anyone with experience here would reaaly help.  my reason is that my
fingers are cramping from using the 200lx so much!

thanks,
dave

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:52:42 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Lars,

Lars Hedstroem wrote:
> A Meshar (sponsor@FTEL.NET) wrote:
>
> > In truth, I find browsing less and less satisfactory. I
> > also tell this to customers and prospective customers. The
> > Web is rapidly filling up with features that HV cannot
> > support and less and less of the web is accessible to HV.
>
> This development from my horizon is not unambigous,more and more get
> aware about that there are such things as pocketcomputers and open up
> special links for them.

Tell them to make these pages comply with HTML 3.2 and HV
will support them. There is a move to simplify, but many of
them still think they can use Java, frames, Javascript etc.
Maybe these are supported by some handheld programs, but HV
does not.

> So atleast for me my usefulness of the hv on the web has increased and
> will increase even more in the future while more people/institutions/enter
> prises get aware of that handhelds are more common and will be even more
> common.

I hope there will be more. There seems to be a realization
that people really want content, not just flashing lights
and pictures. There will be problems with security and so
on. Banks for example, will want to utilize some secure
communication, but HV supports none, since no one standard
emerged. There are several and we cannot put them all in. A
loooong time ago, Andreas said he might be able to put one
of them in. Since then there were some changes to HV, and
we may have no more code space at all, even if one standard
did emerge.

I really hope someone will do a good browser for the
Palmtop. One that can support all the goodies we got used
to in Netscape and MSIE. I think it won't happen because I
am seeing huge 7 and 8 and 15 MB programs on desktops to
accomplish all that. What chance do we have on the little
palmtop?

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:26:04 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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My DeskJet 500 works perfect with the palmtop. I own the early
model with parallel and serial interface. Later models only
have the parallel interface.

I have the parallel interface connected to my desktop and the
serial interface connected to the palmtop, using the original
palmtop serial cable and the original palmtop printer adapter
which converts the 9-pin end of the serial cable to the 24-pins
needed at the printer side.

My "mouse piano" setting of the DeskJet is:

          Block A            Block B

up              x          x
      1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
down  x x x x x   x x    x   x x x x x x


You find the "piano" at the lower front panel. Just lift the
printer from the front and you will see it. Usually all switchs
are down. My setting of block A selects european paper size and
my setting of block B selects 300dpi graphic instead of 75dpi.

To use the printer form the palmtop, I first have to disconnect
the parallel cable from the desktop. The printer seems to be
hard wired to use the parallel output if both (parallel and
serial connections) are found. This even has to be done, if
the desktop is not powered. The parallel port of the desktop
must have some short circuits which indicate, it's there.

However you may remove the parallel cable either from the
printer or the desktops end. I prefer the desktops end, it's
easier to reach. One indication to see that the printer is
connected to the palmtop is the move of the printer head at
power on of the printer. If you still have the parallel cable
plugged in, it does not move!

If the head moves, the second point on the palmtops side is to
make sure that the serial port is powered and set up with the
right parameters. I use (my) LXPRO TSR to do that. Already
years ago I implemented the '0' hotkey to set up a serial
printer with 9600,8,N,1. All you have to do is to invoke LXPRO
or LXPROMIN with Ctrl-Tab and then press the 0 key and ESC to
close the LXPRO popup window again. Now the printer is ready to
go. The advantage of LXPRO is, that you can use it always,
whether you are in the middle of a SysMgr or DOS prgramm. You
don't have to care about serial port settings before you start
using a program.

As Printer Driver Setting in SysMgr I use HP LaserJet. But this
has only effect on SysMgr programs, like MiniFax which works
perfect with this setting to print out faxes.

From DOS and other SC sessions it works perfect to print text.
If you want to print graphics from DOS, you need to install
the DOS programm GRAPHICS with the appropriate driver for the
DeskJet, but this is another story...

Stefan

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 05:50:07 -0500
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thanks very much.  I used this modem at most 8 times, and it seemd ok.  I
will discontinue immediately.  Hopefully I didn't do any damage yet.

I guess I will need to get a thaddeus 56k modem.

Thanks!


Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
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I have a 5MB Flashdisk which is compressed with stacker. I want to format the
drive. First I changed the attributes of the files on the uncompressed part
with attrib -r -a -s -h. There was no stacker driver loaded. Then I tried to
format the drive.

It counts up to 100%
"Verifying 5,07M"
"Format complete"
"Unable to write BOOT"
"Format terminated"

I tried to simply delete the files. They are all deletable, the hidden one too,
after deleting I cannot see them. But after a reboot they are there again.

Any suggestions?

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:17:12 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> Is there a version of Perl available for the 200lx?

Yes, Perl 4 runs fine on the LX:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/search.pl?Query=perl419

This is a copy of version 4, patchlevel 19. You can also find patchlevel
36 somewhere, which I suppose is better, although I've never had had any
problems with either version. The other version (pl 36) does have some
advantages, but I don't have a link ready. You should be able to find it
at Simtel.


Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:27:21 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Accton / Other network cards
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Hi There!

Yes, I have tried a CF network card from Socket Communications. Can't
remember, but I think it takes 34-40mA. You can probably check it on
thier web site- www.socketcom.com. Worked fine on the 200LX.

Regards,

Jorgen

> Has anyone tried the CompacFlash network cards? I beleive Xircom do a =
10/100
> one that is v-low power (50-60ma)??

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:34:45 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 29 Mar 2000 13:45:54 -0800, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

ÝSnipped some¨

> We will sell these only as 64 meg or 32 meg. (We have a standing order and
> could sell most as 8 meg to one company).  Currently, 96 megs are out of
> stock, and Mack doesn't know when he will be able to order more.

I of course wants one, but who does'nt :-), but can'nt afford one at
the moment..

> In a month or so I expect to be able to share a number of extremely positive
> and exciting developments on the 200LX front, some that have been hinted at
> here and some new developments.

Hmm I can not wait :-) huhu new things too..

> Bottom line: We expect to be supporting 200LX's for at least 2 to 3 more
> years!

This makes me very happy..I am not in the market for a new one, but
that you guys will stick with it makes me very happy..

Best wishes

--
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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:34:47 +0200
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On 30 Mar 2000 02:31:34 -0800, Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I am trying to set up my  copy (registered) on my OB 430.
> i have installed palrun/wwwlx/pe/hv and it runs,

Yes I did the same..

> but i use a pcmcia
> modem in the "a" slot ot the ob430.

I had the exact same "problem" some time ago.

> I note that wwwlx allows one to
> set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
> address com4?

I asked here on the list how I could do this, but I did not get any
solution to this. This problem "went" away when I bought a ethernetcard
for the Hplx and hooked the Hplx to my hub. The Hplx is a bit slow, but
I could use my desktop for surfing while downloading to the Hplx.

I used the laptop with a external modem(isdn/rs232 phone), but I found
no solution to the setup you describe.

I had a solution where I ran Www/lx on the pcmciacard and then
downloaded mails/news to the card and then pulled it out and inserted
it in the Hplx. I wanted the download speed the laptop had, but wanted
to use the Hplx for reading/replying. I also had Www/lx in slot 1 and a
ethernetcard connected to my hub and tried it that way, but I did not
find a solution.

I got Www/lx working on the desktop too, but not with pcmcia modem on
the laptop.

>  i have an old ob 1200 baud modem but it is too slow.
> Then, i can log one and hopefully get operational.
>
> anyone with experience here would reaaly help.  my reason is that my
> fingers are cramping from using the 200lx so much!

Hm I have trouble with this too, but the benefits of using the Hplx
laying on the sofa is greater than sitting infront of the desktop
reading/replying (the laptop moved out :-)

Good luck

--
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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:15:06 -0700
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On Tue, 04 April 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

>
> On 30 Mar 2000 02:31:34 -0800, Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I am trying to set up my  copy (registered) on my OB 430.
> > i have installed palrun/wwwlx/pe/hv and it runs,
>
> Yes I did the same..
>
> > but i use a pcmcia
> > modem in the "a" slot ot the ob430.
>
> I had the exact same "problem" some time ago.
>
> > I note that wwwlx allows one to
> > set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
> > address com4?
>

Cant you redirect com1 or 2 to com4 from DOS? I don't know the syntax, but I thought one could use the 'mode' command.

Good Luck.

D.


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Hal,

> We will sell these new 200LX's on a first come, first served basis (we've
> already sold 10).  If interested, call at 800 373 6114 or email us at
> orders@thaddeus.com.
>
> In a month or so I expect to be able to share a number of extremely positive
> and exciting developments on the 200LX front, some that have been hinted at
> here and some new developments.

I've asked for a DS 64meg new with backlighting some 6 months ago. Can
you please update ?

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:10:45 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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     With luck and enough greed backfiring against the most aggressive
participants, we could see a re-emergence of the HTML standard.  The April,
2000 Network Magazine had an article at the bottom of page 20 that reads as
follows:

Open Air?

Wireless lovers are going to hate this: A U.S. patent on a portion of the
Wireless Application Protocol (WAP) standard could further delay deployment
of wireless Internet infrastructure within the United States.

Under patent #5,327,529, software manufacturer Geoworks (www.geoworks.com)
describes a way of adjusting a program's user interface to fit the type of
device accessing it.  This covers Wireless Markup Language (WML), the code
at the heart of WAP that's used for specifying wireless Web pages.

Geoworks denies that it is trying to make an open standard proprietary.  "We
will be actively working with all members to ensure that they have fair
rights to our technology," says Dave Grannan, Geoworks' president and CEO.

That's going to cost, however.  Grannan and company demand 10 percent of
competitors' WAP revenue in royalties.  It's easy to see why; With the
Yankee Group (www.yankeegroup.com) estimating that one in four Americans
will own a WAP phone by 2004, Geoworks stands to gain a bundle.

Assuming, of course, they don't kill the spec in the process.  With Geoworks
breaking ranks, other WAP forum members may also demand licensing fees for
their own contributions to the standard.

Vendors interested in WAP might find other technologies to replace it, like
those from 3Com and Qualcomm, but those, too, are proprietary.  In the end,
the market could coalesce around the devil it knows -- HTML.  Microsoft
already contends that many wireless surfers will demand the familiar
HTML-based Web, rejecting WML's scaled-down version.  - Andy Dornan

     ÝHere's hoping! - Alan¨

     Still, I agree with Avi that there are essential functions that we
cannot handle, such as security, that must be developed or we will be left
behind.

Alan

>> This development from my horizon is not unambigous,more and more get
>> aware about that there are such things as pocketcomputers and open up
>> special links for them.
>
>Tell them to make these pages comply with HTML 3.2 and HV
>will support them. There is a move to simplify, but many of
>them still think they can use Java, frames, Javascript etc.
>Maybe these are supported by some handheld programs, but HV
>does not.
>
>> So atleast for me my usefulness of the hv on the web has increased and
>> will increase even more in the future while more
people/institutions/enter
>> prises get aware of that handhelds are more common and will be even more
>> common.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:12:29 +0200
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On Monday, 03.04.2000 at 18:51 GMT, Paulo Custodio  wrote:
> I regularly clean up my appointment book file by doing a
> File->Remove, remove all appointments before a date and save
> them in a apptYYMM.adb (YY=year, MM=month).
>
> I have noticed with dbcheck 1.61 that the produced files are
> sometimes corrupted. Is this a bug in the appointment book
> remove function, or something that dbcheck does not recognize?
>
> The error in dbcheck -d is:
>         APPT9911.ADB:
>         Ý...¨
>         ----------------------------------------------
>         location: 4577  length: 62  record number: 581
>         ToDo
>         Desc&ription: Do this
>         Start &Date : 11/01/1999
>         D&ue Date   : 0
>         Completion Date: See record number 77
>         Data error: record number 77 doesn't exist
>         &Priority   : 3
>         &Carry Forward = X
>         &Note: none
>         Cate&gory:
>         Yearly  = X
>         repeat every 1, months: Nov, on day 1
>         Beginning 11/01/1999 until 11/30/1999
>         Number of exception dates: 1: 11/01/1999;
>         Previous link: 37
>         Next link: 0
>         Found in recurring list
>         ----------------------------------------------
>
> Strange is that opening the APPT9911.ADB file I cannot find the
> To-do item with the error (doing F10, F4, and typing the text
> of the to-do item)
>
I have exactly the same problem. This must be a bug in the remove program.

The cause of the error is that for repeating ToDo entries where the last
occurrence is after the period to be removed, the program does not seem to
copy the record  that defines the end of the of the ToDo period into the
archive file.

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:52:32 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I've asked for a DS 64meg new with backlighting some 6 months ago. Can
you please update ?

HP Staber/Salzburg>>

Hans, did you leave a deposit of $500?  If so, you should have gotten an
email from us with an update on that status.  We have about 20 new palmtops
in stock that we reserved for people wanting backlighting. Since we were not
able to deliver by March 31, we sent out an email asking you whether we
should hold the unit or give a refund.  Did you get that email?

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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:17:43 +0200
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Subject:      Re: 200LX \ 700LX Hybrid?
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At 19:47 06.03.2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I like the way the Omnigo integrates the applicationsand I like the built in
>applications and the way the 700 uses the phone for faxing, as well as the
>SMS.
>
>I won't be crushed if I can't do it; I guess I was just hoping that
>someone would say
>it wasn't that difficult...
>
>Jim

Hi Jim,

have you tried to combine the 700LX w/ the 200LX yet? I have the same
combination (owning a700 and a 200 (and a 100)), and would also like to
combine them both (or at least be able to use the build-in programs of the
700 on the 200lx).

have you tried it already?

regards

peter


>Rundel Datentechnik wrote:
>
> > I don't think that swapping the ROM between the 200LX and 700LX would
> > work due to major differences in the hardware of those machines. But
> > if it's only for the SMS application, I'd suggest to check out Robot/LX,
> > which is an add-on to WWW/LX. I use this program to send and receive
> > SMS with my Siemens S25 GSM phone, and I'm quite sure that it can be
> > used equally well with the Nokia phones, perhaps after some minor
> > modifications.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Jim Westley wrote:
> >  > I have a question for all the hardware experts out there. I have a
> 200LX \
> >  > DS \ 8Mb, and a 700 LX Omnigo. I also happen to live in an area of the
> >  > country where I can use a phone that works with the Omnigo. I love
> all the
> >  > features of the Omnigo except one - it won't fit in my pocket. So, I
> am use
> >  > my 200 on a daily basis.
> >  >
> >  > I pulled the bottom off the 700 and found that it just has a
> standard Nokia
> >  > data card in a second PCMCIA slot. I pulled the card out, bought a cable
> >  > from Nokia, and my 200 worked with the card just fine. However, I didn't
> >  > have an application to use the short messaging service, and the
> application
> >  > integration is not as good as the 700. So, I thought of a perfect
> solution...
> >  >
> >  > 1. Combine the two machines so that I have the form factor of the
> 200, but
> >  > the ROM of the 700.
> >  > 2. Have about 32 MB of RAM on board so that I don't have to use a
> memory card.
> >  > 3. Leave the Nokia data card plugged in, and attach the fone when a
> fax or
> >  > data call comes in.
> >  >
> >  > Perfect, no?
> >  >
> >  > Two small problems: Can it be done, and who could do it?
> >  >
> >  > Your thoughts would be appreciated.
> >  >
> >  > Jim
> >  > Jim
> >  >
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> >  >
> >
> >  ____________________________ _______________________________
> >                              |
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> >  Dipl.-Inform. Thomas Rundel | Fax:           +49-7161-24473
> >  Rappenstr. 20               | Cellphone/SMS: +49-172-7326211
> >  73033 Goeppingen            | E-Mail:        info@rundel.net
> >  Germany                     | Web:           www.rundel.net
> >  ____________________________|_______________________________
> >
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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:10:24 -0400
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Hi Peter,

I opened up the 700  and my 200, and it looked like it wouldn't be possible. But
not being an expert, I contacted one, who informed me it would not be possible  -
the two are just too different.

What I do know is that you can really easily get the PC card out of  the bottom of
the 700 and use it in the 200. It took a while with Nokia to get them to sell me
the dongle, but it is possible to get.

Now I need to find a set of applications that work as nicely as the built in apps
the 700 has. I just want to receive a fax automatically when my office fax forwards
it; get SMS messages from my office; and use the built in phone  book to forward
these on. Pretty simple needs.

I bought a Nokia communicator (which I think HP wrote the software for), and it
works great, but I don't want to give up my 200 and all the other applications that
I use extensively - like solver; databases, etc. Besides, the Communicator's phone
quality is absolutely crummy compared to my 2190, even though phone-wise they are
basically the same. I am letting Nokia look at the Communicator now to see if
something is wrong with the phone itself. I hope so - this  phone has rotten
connection, echoes, and its coverage is about half my 2190.

Jim

Peter Eberl wrote:

> At 19:47 06.03.2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >I like the way the Omnigo integrates the applicationsand I like the built in
> >applications and the way the 700 uses the phone for faxing, as well as the
> >SMS.
> >
> >I won't be crushed if I can't do it; I guess I was just hoping that
> >someone would say
> >it wasn't that difficult...
> >
> >Jim
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> have you tried to combine the 700LX w/ the 200LX yet? I have the same
> combination (owning a700 and a 200 (and a 100)), and would also like to
> combine them both (or at least be able to use the build-in programs of the
> 700 on the 200lx).
>
> have you tried it already?
>
> regards
>
> peter
>
> >Rundel Datentechnik wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think that swapping the ROM between the 200LX and 700LX would
> > > work due to major differences in the hardware of those machines. But
> > > if it's only for the SMS application, I'd suggest to check out Robot/LX,
> > > which is an add-on to WWW/LX. I use this program to send and receive
> > > SMS with my Siemens S25 GSM phone, and I'm quite sure that it can be
> > > used equally well with the Nokia phones, perhaps after some minor
> > > modifications.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > Jim Westley wrote:
> > >  > I have a question for all the hardware experts out there. I have a
> > 200LX \
> > >  > DS \ 8Mb, and a 700 LX Omnigo. I also happen to live in an area of the
> > >  > country where I can use a phone that works with the Omnigo. I love
> > all the
> > >  > features of the Omnigo except one - it won't fit in my pocket. So, I
> > am use
> > >  > my 200 on a daily basis.
> > >  >
> > >  > I pulled the bottom off the 700 and found that it just has a
> > standard Nokia
> > >  > data card in a second PCMCIA slot. I pulled the card out, bought a cable
> > >  > from Nokia, and my 200 worked with the card just fine. However, I didn't
> > >  > have an application to use the short messaging service, and the
> > application
> > >  > integration is not as good as the 700. So, I thought of a perfect
> > solution...
> > >  >
> > >  > 1. Combine the two machines so that I have the form factor of the
> > 200, but
> > >  > the ROM of the 700.
> > >  > 2. Have about 32 MB of RAM on board so that I don't have to use a
> > memory card.
> > >  > 3. Leave the Nokia data card plugged in, and attach the fone when a
> > fax or
> > >  > data call comes in.
> > >  >
> > >  > Perfect, no?
> > >  >
> > >  > Two small problems: Can it be done, and who could do it?
> > >  >
> > >  > Your thoughts would be appreciated.
> > >  >
> > >  > Jim
> > >  > Jim
> > >  >
> > >  > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
> > >  >
> > >
> > >  ____________________________ _______________________________
> > >                              |
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> > >  Dipl.-Inform. Thomas Rundel | Fax:           +49-7161-24473
> > >  Rappenstr. 20               | Cellphone/SMS: +49-172-7326211
> > >  73033 Goeppingen            | E-Mail:        info@rundel.net
> > >  Germany                     | Web:           www.rundel.net
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Is anyone having trouble getting their mail
from dial in directly to freewwweb.com
without skipping through hoops ?
Or is the dial in 8186380887 from Glendale having trouble only ?
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:54:57 +0000
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> Is there a version of Perl available for the 200lx?
>

I'm using DOS v4.0 which was available for free download by
following the obvious links at www.perl.com or from the SUPER
site (www.palmtop.net).

It works fine. It's especially good with software carousel,
where you can have an editor open in one session, the manual
or other reference in a second and view the interpreter
results in another - just like having an IDE. The total
install was about 1MB, but by stripping out a 386-only exe and
the manual and docs, you should be able to get it down to
about 350k.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 03:39:22 +0000
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: wwwlx on ob430q
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> Hi all!
>
> set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
> address com4?  i have an old ob 1200 baud modem but it is too slow.

I've got a setup for Port3 - just change the 1 or 2 to 3 or 4 in the
proper setup location in the www.cfg file.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:21:34 -0400
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Hmmm.  I tried many different setups with modem in different slots but to=

no avail.  Also, i do not know how to redirect com ports.....anyone can
help here?

I want to use the ob to log on and download faster, but reallly to use th=
e
much nicer keyboard.  I would then use the 200lx with identical setup whe=
n
traveling or in areas where an OB would be inconvenient.

Does anyone else do it this way?

thanks

dave


---------------
> I note that wwwlx allows one to
> set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
> address com4?

I asked here on the list how I could do this, but I did not get any
solution to this. This problem "went" away when I bought a ethernetcard
for the Hplx and hooked the Hplx to my hub. The Hplx is a bit slow, but
I could use my desktop for surfing while downloading to the Hplx.

I used the laptop with a external modem(isdn/rs232 phone), but I found
no solution to the setup you describe.

I had a solution where I ran Www/lx on the pcmciacard and then
downloaded mails/news to the card and then pulled it out and inserted
it in the Hplx. I wanted the download speed the laptop had, but wanted
to use the Hplx for reading/replying. I also had Www/lx in slot 1 and a
ethernetcard connected to my hub and tried it that way, but I did not
find a solution.

I got Www/lx working on the desktop too, but not with pcmcia modem on
the laptop.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:22:31 -0400
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Have you actually gotten this to work?  If so, tell me anything else you
might have done!

dave



Message text written by INTERNET:fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net
>> Hi all!
>
> set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
> address com4?  i have an old ob 1200 baud modem but it is too slow.

I've got a setup for Port3 - just change the 1 or 2 to 3 or 4 in the
proper setup location in the www.cfg file.<

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:26:01 -100
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From:         Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject:      bmeyer@union-tel.com (Bob Meyer)
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Bob,

As smtp has no way to identify the user (unlike POP which requires a
password), the ISP has to resort to less specific way to keep out spammers.
One of them is to check whether your are logged in at that point in time.

The good news is that it shouldn't prevent you from sending mail. Choose once
and for all your main mailing address and put the same FROM address for all the
mails you send from any smtp.

In your case, define 2 setups in your mailing program (I use nettamer) :

- One with union-tel phone number using union-tel smtp with
bmeyer@union-tel.com in the FROM field when you are at home.

- One with freewwweb phone number using freewwweb smtp with
bmeyer@union-tel.com (yes, @union-tel.com) in the FROM field when you are
outside home.

Subscribe to all mailing list as bmeyer@union-tel.com and only check your pop
box bmeyer@union-tel.com. You don't need to check freewwweb pop box as you
should never receive mail there.

Use setup 1 or 2 depending on your current location.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

p.s. I just sent this e-mail from Geneva via the Atlanta Freewwweb access
number.

 > freewwweb is long distance from my home and work.
 > union-tel is long distance from work.
 > I am trying to figure a way that I can use my union-tel smtp throught a
 > local call like freewwweb when I am out of town.

 > The biggest thing right now is to be able to send to the LX and OB lists
 > without getting on the list twice. It is not a necessity, but a "would
 > be nice" in addition to a learning experience trying to make it work,
 > i.e.,

 >   Logged in with freewwweb -> use union-tel smtp
 >   Logged in with union-tel -> use freewwweb smtp

 > Bob

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:28:11 +0300
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Hi!
>
> Is there a version of Perl available for the 200lx?
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Mark Johnson

There is a version 4 patch level 36 which has some PAL functionality at
http://www.tuug.org/~hysky
Look for PalPerl.

/j.h.husgafvel

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:36:59 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 30 Mar 2000 12:15:51 -0800, Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> have you tried to combine the 700LX w/ the 200LX yet? I have the same
> combination (owning a700 and a 200 (and a 100)), and would also like to
> combine them both (or at least be able to use the build-in programs of the
> 700 on the 200lx).

Hmm I had a Hp700lx for a year or so before I bought a Hp200lx. I do
not think that I miss anything on the Hp700lx. What applications are
you talking about. The 700 had fax and sms in addition to the
standard..something more? I can not remember..

I now use a irda phone (Nokia 7110) and Www/lx for sms and that is a
better solution than the Sms program on the Hp700lx. I do not have a
use for fax, but maybe I have forgotten some applications?

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:37:00 +0200
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On 30 Mar 2000 08:21:31 -0800, Darren Frick <dfrick@ALTAVISTA.COM> wrote:

> On Tue, 04 April 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> >
> > On 30 Mar 2000 02:31:34 -0800, Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I am trying to set up my  copy (registered) on my OB 430.
> > > i have installed palrun/wwwlx/pe/hv and it runs,
> >
> > Yes I did the same..
> >
> > > but i use a pcmcia
> > > modem in the "a" slot ot the ob430.
> >
> > I had the exact same "problem" some time ago.
> >
> > > I note that wwwlx allows one to
> > > set up for port 1 or 2 on the 200lx, but is there a way to get this to
> > > address com4?
> >
>
> Cant you redirect com1 or 2 to com4 from DOS? I don't know the syntax, but I thought one could use the 'mode' command.
>
> Good Luck.

I have another solution now that works very good. But I could probably
have done you say. I have not tried it. I am not sure what com the
pcmcia modem get, but I guess a redirect can be done.

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:00:11 +0200
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Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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At 11:36 05.04.2000 +0200, you wrote:
>you talking about. The 700 had fax and sms in addition to the
>standard..something more? I can not remember..

exactly these two

>I now use a irda phone (Nokia 7110) and Www/lx for sms and that is a
>better solution than the Sms program on the Hp700lx. I do not have a
>use for fax, but maybe I have forgotten some applications?

I have not yet looked at the SMS in conjunction w/ WWW/LX. It's on my task
list. I just like the tight integration of the phonebook with the fax and
SMS application on the 700LX. Does the robot-script on / w/ www/LX also
offer that?

talk to you

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:30:26 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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>>I now use a irda phone (Nokia 7110) and Www/lx for sms and that is a
>>better solution than the Sms program on the Hp700lx. I do not have a

Does the 7110 have a modem? Can I just use a 200lx and a 7110 to dialup?


---------------------------------------------------------------
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Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:13:41 +0200
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              Jean-Michel FROUIN <Snoogie@WANADOO.FR>
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To run Psion 3 emulator on my HP100LX i need subst.exe
Can u help me ???
Thanks !

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Check DOS 6.0

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:20:37 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> We have about 20 new palmtops in stock that we reserved for
> people wanting backlighting. Since we were not able to deliver
> by March 31, we sent out an email asking you whether we should
> hold the unit or give a refund.

Are you still planning to have the backlighting available?

Robert Hocking

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Wed,  5 Apr 2000 09:32:30 -0500 (EST)

03h16m57s ago ...
On Wed,  5 Apr 2000, Jean-Michel FROUIN wrote:

> To run Psion 3 emulator on my HP100LX i need subst.exe

IIRC it's available on SUPER.


HTH

Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:38:54 MEST
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How can I remove stacker from a stacked flashdisk?
forma doesn't work.

 TIA
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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:47:51 -0700
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Have you tried d:\bin\fdisk100.exe?  That works at a lower level than FORMAT.
After fdisk100 (if it works),  follow with FORMAT.

- Longden





Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> on 04/05/2000 08:38:54 AM

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Subject:  Stacker




How can I remove stacker from a stacked flashdisk?
forma doesn't work.

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>> To run Psion 3 emulator on my HP100LX i need subst.exe

Does the Psion 3 emulator not need a 386 to run?

-goe-

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:06:42 -0500
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<<Are you still planning to have the backlighting available?>>

Yes, we hope so. Right now we are projecting June at $199.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:06:08 +0200
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I download subst.exe and join.exe from SUPER , i put it in my Hp , and now :
INCORRECT DOS VERSION !!
SUX!
Someone can send me by email a correcct version please ?

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:12:49 +0200
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in fact I need to use Lastdrive Z and subst m: a:\Psion

If someone can help me , ask me in private please, help neeeeeeeeeeed :o)

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>I download subst.exe and join.exe from SUPER , i put it in my Hp , and now :

>INCORRECT DOS VERSION !!
>SUX!
>Someone can send me by email a correcct version please ?

It is correct. Download dosver from super and start it before you start subst.
Make sure that lastdrive=m is in your config.sys.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:01:17 -0700
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Why is there a version of SUBST on SUPER that's not DOS 5.0?

Seems like a 5.0 version would be more appropriate (and less troublesome),
unless someone knows advantages to whatever version's in there now (6.x?)

I use the 5.0 version on my LX without having to set DOSVER.

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Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> on 04/05/2000 09:43:58 AM

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Subject:  Re: Sux !!




>I download subst.exe and join.exe from SUPER , i put it in my Hp , and now :

>INCORRECT DOS VERSION !!
>SUX!
>Someone can send me by email a correcct version please ?

It is correct. Download dosver from super and start it before you start subst.
Make sure that lastdrive=m is in your config.sys.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:50:43 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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For all who are interested in an amusing quiz-game concerning the
Beatles <g>, here is the url where you can find the shareware-prog.
(FABFOUR2.EXE):

http://members.aol.com/swaresouth

It runs very well on the HP, you get a better view with CGAHLP.EXE
(on SUPER)

Regards, Axel

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:51:15 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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Subject:      when the 200lx dies, what next?

Just looking at the 200lx situation over at thadeus, they have run out of
new 200lx's and supplies are limited on the used ones. What happens when my
200lx gives up the ghost? Will I be able to get a replacement? If not what
do I do, do I look towards the Morphy1?

Thoughts anyone?

MarkJ

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:27:35 -0500
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If you haven't been to www.palmtoppaper.com in the last week or so you might
want to visit.

Ed Keefe and a team of volunteers did a GREAT job put all past issues into
HTML format.  8 plus years online and searchable!

As you will see Ed Keefe completely and creatively redesigned the site.  He
will be adding tips and articles on a regular basis.

By the way those Palmtop Papers in HTML are in the 2000 CD Infobase which
should ship next week.

Thanks for your patience.  As you see, we usually keep our promises -- just
things take a lot longer then we plan.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:59:53 +0200
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              Jean-Michel FROUIN <Snoogie@WANADOO.FR>
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RUN very well under HP100LX , tx to all person who help me tx !!!!!

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:38:43 -0400
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              Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Hi Martin,

I meant the SMS and the fax when I said the built in apps. I know about
third party applications - I am just partial to the built in ones.

Jim


>Hmm I had a Hp700lx for a year or so before I bought a Hp200lx. I do
>not think that I miss anything on the Hp700lx. What applications are
>you talking about. The 700 had fax and sms in addition to the
>standard..something more? I can not remember..

Jim

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:50:56 -0400
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: Rita.Hunt@Bcbsla.com (Rita Hunt)


Subscriber Comments: As a member of our IT R&D Team, I need to research
and evaluate remote email and wireless communications for the
palmtop/hand-held devices for making a recommendation on which to use
as a company "standard." It seems wireless communic...

Can you please help me determine this information?

Thank you,
Rita Hunt
2252982954

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:22:21 -0700
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Hi,

I don't think I want to understand the conversion algorithm.  However,
I have converted some FORTRAN codes to C for my program use.
I'll be glad to give you the C code.  A little programming may be
needed to turn it into a convertor.  Please email me if you are interested.

Regards,
Alfred


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From:   Winfried ZettelmeyerÝSMTP:wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES¨
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Hi LX-GPSers,

can anybody tell me the algorithm to convert a track in
lat/long coordinates into UTM ? I could do it feeding the
lat/long points into the GPS an changing the display to UTM,
but for the 2000 points I have this is too cumbersome and I
would like to do it in LOTUS.

Thanks in advance !
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:56:26 -0700
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I don't mean to add fuel to the fire. But...(g)  I see nothing
wrong with Avi reminding the seller (and any potential buyers)
that D&A does not/will not provide support. At least say the
minimal "Email me if you have questions'. We can't assume
everyone knows as much about the product as we might.

Charge: $0.02

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   >I hope whoever buys it understands that this version is not
   >supported and there is no migration from it to the current
   >version.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:43:38 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 31 Mar 2000 03:32:09 -0800, Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> wrote:

> >>I now use a irda phone (Nokia 7110) and Www/lx for sms and that is a
> >>better solution than the Sms program on the Hp700lx. I do not have a
>
> Does the 7110 have a modem? Can I just use a 200lx and a 7110 to dialup?

Yes it has a full blown irda modem. The only email/news program that
supports irda is Www/lx. It also can use a data cable. I have not tried
this. The data cable is called DLR-3 or something like that.

You could actually use the built in wapbrowser in the 7110 to access
your pop3 account if you want to. I can do it, but it cost the same as
a regular call. Replying via wap is not the thing to do.. How wapaccess
is in the UK I do not know..

The 7110 is well known for software bugs, but version 4.80 is much
better than the previous ones. I have 4.73 and will upgrade soon. Great
phone.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:43:36 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 30 Mar 2000 15:07:33 -0800, James Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:

> Hi Peter,

> Now I need to find a set of applications that work as nicely as the
> built in apps
> the 700 has. I just want to receive a fax automatically
> when my office fax forwards
> it;

Well I have no experience with using fax on the Hp700lx or the Hp200lx
so I can not help you with that. But it sounds like you have to stay
with the Hp700LX for this..

> get SMS messages from my office; and
> use the built in phone book to forward
> these on. Pretty simple needs.

As I wrote in another messages it is easy to use Post/lx with the sms
script. But it all depends on what phone you got and what pcmciacard
you plan to use. And of course if you want to use Post/lx.

> I bought a Nokia communicator (which I think HP wrote the software
> for),

Hm I do not think so. I have necer heard this. The Communicator runs
Geos. Maybe Hp were involved, I do not know..

> and it works great,

I think it is too bulky to use both as a phone and pda. Nokia has
launched a new version which is called 9110. It is as "small" as a
2110(90) and was okey to use. I have only tested it for approx. 10
minutes so I can not say i it is good or not. But the phonemenues are
based on the 61** platform.

Nokia should launch a new communicator like gadget soon I think. The
Ericsson R380 looks interesting, but not instead of the Hplx..

> but I don't want to give up my 200 and all
> the other applications that > I use extensively - like solver;
> databases, etc.

Yes this is what I like with the Hplx platoform. A set of really good
applications.

> Besides, the Communicator's phone  quality is
> absolutely crummy compared to my 2190, even though phone-wise they are
> basically the same.

Hmm this is strange. You use a 2190 you say. That is on PCS network or
something. I do not know how these networks work. The 9000 you got is a
9000IL? I have used a 9000 on a gsm 900 network and it was much better
than my _old_ 2110i gsm phone.

> I am letting Nokia look at the Communicator now
> to see if  something is wrong with the phone itself. I hope so - this
> phone has rotten  connection, echoes, and its coverage is about half
> my 2190.

This sounds strange. The 9000 should be better than the 2190 I think.
The 9000 is newer technology than the 2110 so it should be better. It
sounds like a faulty unit.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:43:39 +0200
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On 31 Mar 2000 02:56:19 -0800, Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM> wrote:

> At 11:36 05.04.2000 +0200, you wrote:

> >you talking about. The 700 had fax and sms in addition to the
> >standard..something more? I can not remember..
>
> exactly these two

Okey. I do not miss the sms application. The Www/lx->7110 solution
works better. I do not use fax so no comment there..

> >I now use a irda phone (Nokia 7110) and Www/lx for sms and that is a
> >better solution than the Sms program on the Hp700lx. I do not have a
> >use for fax, but maybe I have forgotten some applications?
>
> I have not yet looked at the SMS in conjunction w/ WWW/LX. It's on my task
> list. I just like the tight integration of the phonebook with the fax and
> SMS application on the 700LX. Does the robot-script on / w/ www/LX also
> offer that?

I have added the phonenumbers that I use to send sms too in the
post.adr file (addressbook). Then I have a Sms "mail"box where I
compose the messages and then send them via irda and 7110. Works great.

I doubt that you can use the pcmcia card which is in the Hp700lx for
this. I tried this when I had the Hp700lx. The pcmciacard does not
support the ETSI 07.03(5?) standard. (according to Andreas Garzotto)

But if you have a irdaphone it is possible to get this to work. If you
have a Siemens S25/35 you have to use Stefan Peichl's pdu sms program.

What phone do you have?

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:43:09 +0200
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              Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
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Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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At 09:43 06.04.2000 +0200, you wrote:
>On 31 Mar 2000 02:56:19 -0800, Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM> wrote:
>
>But if you have a irdaphone it is possible to get this to work. If you
>have a Siemens S25/35 you have to use Stefan Peichl's pdu sms program.

an Nokia 6110 :-)

>What phone do you have?
I'll try the PDU SMS and look if perhaps it works w/ the Nokia

regards

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:42:17 +0200
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Hi David and friends,

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:13:21 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
> Horizontal lines, if they're caused by a loose or broken ribbon cable, can
> not generally be fixed at all.  The ribbon cable (on the right of the
> screen) is heat-sealed to the glass of the LCD and if it gets pulled or
> torn, the display is essentially "lined" for good.

Does that mean, there's no way to disassemble the LCD's glass part from
the electronics and reassemble it?
I ask because I have two screens here - one with broken glass (my
brother sat down on it) and one with bad electronics. I hoped I could
take the glass of one and the electronics of the other and combine the
two broken screens to one working...

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:58:44 +0200
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              JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
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Tim,

If you are measuring the current consumed from the batteries then you might
still be ok*.  That's because an internal dc/dc converter changes the
2.4v-3v from the batteries to 5V (and 12V?) for the PCMCIA slot.

To get out 150mA at 5V (750mW) would take 300mA at 2.5V and on top of that
you have to allow for conversion (in)efficiency losses.

I've never seen any measurements of this (in) efficiency - it would be
interesting for someone with access to a PCMCIA current measuring device to
see what it translates to when measured at the battery...

  (* I find it hard to believe that the converter could deliver 300mA from
  the PCMCIA port)

Don't throw that card out yet!
Best regds
Jez


On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Sargeant replied:

> Extremely bad.  The 200LX is only rated to supply 150ma to the PCMCIA
> port.  Using a modem that draws more than that is asking for trouble
> ... I'm not sure what kind of trouble, exactly, but I suspect damage to
> the PCMCIA power supply (which also controls the screen and ÝI think¨
> some other things) is extremely likely, at the very least.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Kelley, Timothy P wrote:

> I have been using a 56k pcmcia modem that draws 300ma in my 200lx.
> Is there any problem with this setup?

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 05:18:27 -0800
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Does anybody have any advice on logging into a NetWare 5 server from the
200LX?  I used to be able to do it to a NetWare 3.12 server, but that
setup doesn't work now that I have upgraded to a NetWare 5 server.

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Does that mean, there's no way to disassemble the LCD's glass part
> from the electronics and reassemble it? I ask because I have two
> screens here - one with broken glass (my brother sat down on it) and
> one with bad electronics. I hoped I could take the glass of one and
> the electronics of the other and combine the two broken screens to one
> working...

Unfortunately, you can't do that.  The yellow ribbon cable on the right of
the screen, which handles the horizontal pixel rows, is permanently
affixed to both the glass and the circuit board below. Any damage to this
cable essentially destroys the screen by causing essentially irreversible
horizontal lines of blank pixels.  So, the glass and circuit board are one
inseperable unit.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:34:24 +0200
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Hi friends,

can someone of you please help this guy?
Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the 95LX.

TNX daniel

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:18:17 +0100, "_LS_" <alpas@iname.com> wrote:

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From: "_LS_" <alpas@iname.com>
To: <d.hertrich@gmx.de>
Subject: HP cable
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:18:17 +0100

You have an interesting site about HP palmtops, very usefull.
I am trying to make a serial cable to connect an old LX95 to my PC an hopefully transfer some software to it.
My LX95 only has 4 pins. I dont have the manual.
Do you know the pin layout ?
Probably only Tx, Rx, Vcc and Gnd. No handshake ?!
Can u help?
Thanks
Luis Sousa
alpas@iname.com


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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:13:13 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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You probably need one of the Connectivity cables from Thadeus, they come
with an adapter that fits into a 95lx. I am not sure what software you would
use though, maybe transfile win?

---------------------------------------------------------------
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Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:11:11 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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From:         Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: 200LX network card to NetWare 5 server?
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Hello

>Does anybody have any advice on logging into a NetWare 5 server from the
>200LX?  I used to be able to do it to a NetWare 3.12 server, but that
>setup doesn't work now that I have upgraded to a NetWare 5 server.

I guess it depends on how your Netware Server is setup. If it is setup in
NDS mode, then you have problems if it is setup in Bindery mode (like a
3.12?) then you should be OK. I am no Netware expert by the way, just know a
little.

MarkJ

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:49:41 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I am trying to make a serial cable to connect an old LX95 to my PC an
hopefully transfer some software to it.
My LX95 only has 4 pins. I dont have the manual.
Do you know the pin layout ?>>

We sell the 95LX cable and connectivity kit.

www.palmtoppaper.com

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:27:01 -0400
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Avi Wrote:

"Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:08:24 -0800
From: Avi Meshar <support@dasoft.com>
To: Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@tninet.se>
Subject: Re: Blank Pages

> Hello
>
> How come I just get blank pages sometime when surfing on the net with =
hv?
>
> I don't get any errormessages and when connecting with a ordinary PC =
the
> page opens fine and shows its contents.

Because some servers cache webpages based on the browser
and they have no idea who this "HV" browser is, so they
cache a blank page. You need to discuss with your ISP.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com"



My ISP adviced me to deactivate the proxyserver,but in my Post.cfg file =
it is already deactivated as there is a semicolon in front of it?


Lars




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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:26:35 +0200
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              Frank Ubachs <frankubachs@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Subject:      Using WWW/LX
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I used to successfully log into the Internet with WWW/LX. Now, however, I am
experiencing difficulties.

With most of the sites I do not receive an image (page) anymore. Instead I
get an empty screen and the link in the top bar of my screen says e.g.
f:\www\cache\cache002.htm

I reinstalled the latest version (2.1) but nothing changed. I tried chaning
some parameters, but without luck.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Frank

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:38:50 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 1 Apr 2000 06:42:58 -0800, Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> wrote:

> You probably need one of the Connectivity cables from Thadeus, they come
> with an adapter that fits into a 95lx. I am not sure what software you would
> use though, maybe transfile win?

I got a serialcable with my hp200lx backupmachine and it had a adapter
that was 4 pins on. I can use this on my Hp48sx calculator and probably
on a Hp95LX.

I do not know anything about the 95lx, but I will try to find a wire
diagram over the Hp48sx cable maybe this helpS..

To buy a connectivity pack with software and all that should not be the
way to go. If he has a cable he can use and wants to use some time to
make it work it should be real easy.. If you can find a plug that fits
the 95lx it should not be a problem making the adapter.

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:12:16 -0400
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Oh,no not again!!

This mail was suppose to go to dasoft.

Well,I have had a hard workingday...

Sorry

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:29:14 +0000
From: Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@tninet.se>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Fwd: Re: Blank Pages

Avi Wrote:

"Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:08:24 -0800
From: Avi Meshar <support@dasoft.com>
To: Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@tninet.se>
Subject: Re: Blank Pages

> Hello
>
> How come I just get blank pages sometime when surfing on the net with =
hv?
>
> I don't get any errormessages and when connecting with a ordinary PC =
the
> page opens fine and shows its contents.

Because some servers cache webpages based on the browser
and they have no idea who this "HV" browser is, so they
cache a blank page. You need to discuss with your ISP.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com"



My ISP adviced me to deactivate the proxyserver,but in my Post.cfg file =
it is already deactivated as there is a semicolon in front of it?


Lars




Lars Hedstroem/Sweden



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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:40:39 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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For those who wanted it, my PKZIP-using backup batch file is at:

http://www.hplx.net/david/bkpkzip.bat

Looking over it, I guess the only PKZIP return code I use is 14 -- which
means there was insufficient disk space.  But that's a start ... all the
information is available in the PKZIP documentation.

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> I guess it depends on how your Netware Server is setup. If it is setup
> in NDS mode, then you have problems if it is setup in Bindery mode
> (like a 3.12?) then you should be OK. I am no Netware expert by the
> way, just know a little.

I'm talking about logging into the directory, actually ... so yes, it is
setup in NDS mode.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:49:18 +0200
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Hi Jean-Michel,

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:59:53 +0200, Jean-Michel FROUIN <Snoogie@WANADOO.FR> wrote:
> RUN very well under HP100LX , tx to all person who help me tx !!!!!

And what can you do with that? Is it useful?

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:14:22 -0400
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To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>

In order to remove the hidden stacker file, you need to reboot
the palmtop and NOT load the stacker driver.  Then you will
have direct access to the flashcard.  Now you can use FORMAT
to reformat the card.

But as long as the stacker driver is loaded, the A: drive is a
virtual drive created by stacker and so you cannot use DOS to
format it.


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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:49:08 +0200
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Hi Stephan,

did you try FDISK100?

GtX
daniel

On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:52:49 MEST, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> wrote:
> It counts up to 100%
> "Verifying 5,07M"
> "Format complete"
> "Unable to write BOOT"
> "Format terminated"

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:18:15 -0800
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On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Bob Meyer wrote:

> Tells me that if I get one, I'd better stick with the -1 card and
> forget the BNC. Tnx for the info.

Absolutely.  The BNC is not supposed to work in the 200LX -- they told me
over the phone that the EN2216-2 will work, but only the RJ-45 jack for
10Base-T connections, not the BNC jack for 10Base-2.  Obviously it does
work in some palmtops, but it seems dangerous to me.  And, in addition,
the EN2216-1 uses a lot less power than the -2.  And I think it's
generally less expensive.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:15:49 -0700
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Talking of free ISPs:

http://nzlist.org/user/freeisp/index.htm

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:38:17 +0200
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              fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM
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Hi!,

Anyone know any free ISP services like it (freewwweb) but
at Europe??

Thank you.

Fernando Ruiz

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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:16 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Free ISP


Talking of free ISPs:

http://nzlist.org/user/freeisp/index.htm

Thanks,

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:48:40 -0300
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              "Suquet, Stephan" <ssuquet@APSF.COM.AR>
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Subject:      Re: LXPOP 80186 version
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Hi,

Does anyone know where can I find LXPOP or LXMTA.

Thanks

St=E9phane SUQUET LIZARRAGA
Aguas Provinciales De Santa Fe SA
Tel 54 341 420 67 13

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De:   D Dv ÝSMTP:ddvteach@JUNO.COM¨
> Enviado el:   Viernes 18 de Febrero de 2000 0:10 AM
> Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Asunto:       LXPOP 80186 version
>=20
> Hi.  Whoever posted the offer for the above, I am interested.  I did =
not
> catch the address, and the glimpse search is not working right =
tonight.
>=20
> Domingo
>=20
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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:54:59 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Anybody know if the 200LX can print to a Brother 4550?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:47:40 -0400
From: Jeff <jjjj@ziplink.net>
To: webmaster@hplx.net
Subject: Printer

I need a software driver to enable my 200lx to print on a Brother 4550
(windows) printer. any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:07:05 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Suquet, Stephan wrote:

> Does anyone know where can I find LXPOP or LXMTA.


Try this URL: http://rwhitby.hplx.net/download.html


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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:27:41 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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One of my colleagues is thinking about switching back to the 200lx after a
bit of infidelity (Palm, Psion 5mx). He was interested in the possibility
using the IR to link with his cell phone. I'd appreciate comments on what
cellphones are known to work with the 200lx by IR.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:36:07 -0500
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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I think you have to delete remove the archive protection of the stacker.vol
file withthe attrib command


Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
N: 29.716837 W: -95.462008

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:13:15 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu,  6 Apr 2000 20:25:27 -0500 (EST)

Hi gang,

Does anyone else use PCTime ver. 1.22 for DOS on their palmtop?  It's a
program to dial up the NIST, get the current time, and set the
computer's clock.

I've been using it for over a year, but in a half-dozen tries tonight,
it gives an error 5 and aborts.  Anyone else had this, or have any idea
what the @#$¬& it means?  The DOS version isn't supported by NIST, so
they aren't likely to help...


TIA

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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:40:00 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Yves Leurquin wrote:
> Bob,
>
> As smtp has no way to identify the user (unlike POP which requires a
> password), the ISP has to resort to less specific way to keep out spammers.
> One of them is to check whether your are logged in at that point in time.

It is even a bit worse: The ISP can tell that you logged in
at some time in the past, but they cannot tell if you are
currently logged in... If you are "quiet" for some time,
they can't tell if you logged off at your end, or that you
are just quiet. Most ISPs give you some time to stay
connected, then, if it is quiet during some prescribed
amount of time, they disconnect.

This is a very serious problem for ISPs.

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Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:50:28 -0800
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Subject:      Re: 100LX and 48MB FLASH Card
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Ray Simons wrote:

> I believe the Simple Tech cards and the Microtech cards both use the
> latest , fast Hitachi controller.  http://www.microtechint.com
> Incidentally. Provantage, http://www.provantage.com probably has the
> better prices on Sandisk, Microtech, Kodak, Kingston -- you name it --
> CF cards.

I think that the Simple Tech cards use the Lexar controller ... unless
that is the same as the Hitachi controller, or unless they've changed over
to Hitachi.

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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:21:01 -0700
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I think you will find that both Simple Tech and Lexar now use the
Hitachi controller and are consistently faster than cards not using
that controller though, in my opinion, the Sandisk card works best
with the 200lx.

Ray Simons

On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:50:28 -0800 David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Ray Simons wrote:
>
> > I believe the Simple Tech cards and the Microtech cards both use
> the
> > latest , fast Hitachi controller.  http://www.microtechint.com
> > Incidentally. Provantage, http://www.provantage.com probably has
> the
> > better prices on Sandisk, Microtech, Kodak, Kingston -- you name
> it --
> > CF cards.
>
> I think that the Simple Tech cards use the Lexar controller ...
> unless
> that is the same as the Hitachi controller, or unless they've
> changed over
> to Hitachi.
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:50:42 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On 1 Apr 2000 06:42:58 -0800, Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> wrote:
>
> I got a serialcable with my hp200lx backupmachine and it had a adapter
> that was 4 pins on. I can use this on my Hp48sx calculator and probably
> on a Hp95LX.

The 95LX uses the same cable as the HP48. The HP48 FAQ contains the
pin-outs. I don't have a direct link to the FAQ handy, but it can be found
at www.hpcalc.org.


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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 05:46:00 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: PCTime error 5??

>Does anyone else use PCTime ver. 1.22 for DOS on their palmtop?  It's a
>program to dial up the NIST, get the current time, and set the
>computer's clock.

I recently tried a W32 program that uses the NIST clock, but never managed a
connection. So I still use Atom Time, always works, but it uses a service in
Boulder, Colorado. I surfed over to www.analogx.com, he has a timeserver for
W32. An idea would be to set it up on a pc, then connect over the network
using the LX and update using your program. If you have a pc that is... :-)

br

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Hi David,

On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:40:39 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> http://www.hplx.net/david/bkpkzip.bat
>
> Looking over it, I guess the only PKZIP return code I use is 14 -- which
> means there was insufficient disk space.  But that's a start ... all the

Thanks, that's exactly the errorlevel I needed! Now I won't lose my
data anymore by accident!

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:12:16 -0400, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:
> Oh,no not again!!
>
> This mail was suppose to go to dasoft.

No problem for us (or at least for me), since I'm very interested
in this topic! I had the same problem, and sometimes it disappered, and
I still don't know why. Very seldom I still get blank pages.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Robert,


On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:27:41 +0900, Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM> wrote:

> One of my colleagues is thinking about switching back to the 200lx after a
> bit of infidelity (Palm, Psion 5mx). He was interested in the possibility
> using the IR to link with his cell phone. I'd appreciate comments on what
> cellphones are known to work with the 200lx by IR.

Working phones:

Siemens S25, S35i
Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)

But be aware of the EMI problems ( http://daniel.hplx.net/emi )! The
Siemens phones suffer extremely from these problems, so that in some
cases it is impossible to get an IrDA connection at all if you go
online with the phone (SMS works, since the phone doesn't send while
transfering data via IR).
The Nokia phones get a connection in most cases, but the connection is
slower than 9600 because of the interference problems.
The Motorola L (was reported some weeks ago by someone here on the list)
got a good connection. Don'T know if it gets the full 9600 baus or
less.

Since all phones only speak the IrDA protocol (the HLX speaks HPSIR),
the two devices are not directly compatible. You have to use special
software that allows the LX to speak IrDA.
The only software for WWW, mail and news that speaks IrDA is the WWW/LX
suite by D&A software.

GTX
daniel

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>I think you have to delete remove the archive protection of the stacker.vol

>file withthe attrib command

This didn't work too. But the suggestion of Longden to use Fdisk100 in d:\bin
was right. It worked after that.

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>did you try FDISK100?

Yes. It worked with FDISK100.

Thanx
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>In order to remove the hidden stacker file, you need to reboot
>the palmtop and NOT load the stacker driver.  Then you will
>have direct access to the flashcard.  Now you can use FORMAT
>to reformat the card.

No, this didn't work too. I did all the steps of not loading config.sys, autoexec.bat
and remove the hidden/system/readonly attributes etc. The only necessary step
was to use FDISK100. After that I could format the drive. Now I use the drive
without stacker compression and the sporadic freezing is gone.

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Hi,

I'm searching for a text editor (for the 200lx) which has some "ascii
formatting functions" like

- underlining (with ----- or =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D)
- list functions (to create lists like this with just the first line
  beginning in the first column, following lines indented)
- table functions (like |-----|)
                        |     |
                        |-----|
- align paragraph (right/center)

Nice to have would be an ascii table and some of the 'cool' editing
functions of pe (or vi) like ctrl+del to delete the rest of the line.

Thanx for your hints!

Bye
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David,

>setup in NDS mode.
>

I am guessing you need the latest netware client. I remember seeing a
netware/200lx networking FAQ about netware connectivity somewhere. Does it
use the vanilla netware client or some special one? I think netware now use
IP as the protcoll of choice now rather than IPX so, some IP stack + netware
client should do the trick?

People please correct me if I am wrong.

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I'm using a 700LX with a Nokia 2110 docked on for fax, sms and e-mails (GOING
POSTAL).
since some days all my communication applications have failed.
The error messages which come from the applications are
"modem nicht initialisiert" (sms)
"Kommunikationsfehler"      (fax)
"I can't seem to talk to the modem" (Going Postal)

I have already rebooted the 700LX several times. It's always the same error. The
connectors of phone and palm seem to be ok.

Any suggestions???

Peter


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<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">I'm using a 700LX with a Nokia 2110
docked on for fax, sms and e-mails (GOING POSTAL).</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">since some days all my communication
applications have failed.</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">The error messages which come from
the applications are&nbsp;</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">"modem nicht initialisiert" (sms)</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">"Kommunikationsfehler"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
(fax)</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">"I can't seem to talk to the modem"
(Going Postal)</font><font face="Courier New,Courier"></font>
<p><font face="Courier New,Courier">I have already rebooted the 700LX several
times. It's always the same error. The connectors of phone and palm seem
to be ok.</font><font face="Courier New,Courier"></font>
<p><font face="Courier New,Courier">Any suggestions???</font><font face="Courier New,Courier"></font>
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Thu,  6 Apr 2000 23:42:11 -0500 (EST)

Peniel:

   I can only report similar behaviour! It was working pretty well for
   me for some time, then a several months ago, I started getting the
   same error! Connects OK, reads time segments OK, but then fails to
   reset time & gives that error. I doubt anybody at NIST Boulder would
   be helpful as this is old software (DOS is dead you know...) but
   perhaps it may be worth a call?

   Perhaps Andreas would write a time client for WWW/LX....;-)

   Cheers...AJKind

03h28m56s ago ...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Thu,  6 Apr 2000 20:25:27 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi gang,
>
> Does anyone else use PCTime ver. 1.22 for DOS on their palmtop?  It's a
> program to dial up the NIST, get the current time, and set the
> computer's clock.
>
> I've been using it for over a year, but in a half-dozen tries tonight,
> it gives an error 5 and aborts.  Anyone else had this, or have any idea
> what the @#$¬& it means?  The DOS version isn't supported by NIST, so
> they aren't likely to help...
>
> TIA
>
> Peniel
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01h25m40s ago ...
On Fri,  7 Apr 2000, Albert Kind wrote:

>    I can only report similar behaviour! It was working pretty well for
>    me for some time, then a several months ago, I started getting the
>    same error! Connects OK, reads time segments OK, but then fails to
>    reset time & gives that error.

Hi Al & gang ---

After getting Al's post, and looking over the program log, a likely
answer occurred to me.  My last setting was in December.  It's probably
the dreaded Y2K problem.  PCTime may not be able to handle dates after
12/31/99....

Just a guess.  If so, it was a good program while it worked.  RIP


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please ignore my question from today !


rebooting the 700LX with  CTRL+SHIFT+ON has solved the problem.
before i used only alt+ctrl+del, which seems not to be powerful
enough.

maybe earlier trials with datacomm have set the modem to bad
parameters.

peter
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Had an intersting Error today. While entering a TO-DO, I pressed Control
Shift-s in sequence. This caused the Displsy to blank. ON-OFF  had no
effect. Control-Alt-Del cased a warm boot with the display so light as to
be unreadable. A quick check of the manual and Buddy.txt did not tell me
what happen or why this ocured. It is repeatable even from topcard at
initial boot. Any Ideas?

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> Had an intersting Error today. While entering a TO-DO, I pressed Control
> Shift-s in sequence. This caused the Displsy to blank. ON-OFF  had no
> effect. Control-Alt-Del cased a warm boot with the display so light as to
> be unreadable. A quick check of the manual and Buddy.txt did not tell me
> what happen or why this ocured. It is repeatable even from topcard at
> initial boot. Any Ideas?

That is a function of the speed upgrade driver. The CTRL-SHIFT-S key
combo toggles the screen on/off for power savings during long
computational operations.

Cheers,
 Mack

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Might be Buddy related.  I'm not running Buddy and don't get anything
interesting with Control-Shift-s from the topcard.

- Longden





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Had an intersting Error today. While entering a TO-DO, I pressed Control
Shift-s in sequence. This caused the Displsy to blank. ON-OFF  had no
effect. Control-Alt-Del cased a warm boot with the display so light as to
be unreadable. A quick check of the manual and Buddy.txt did not tell me
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> That is a function of the speed upgrade driver. The CTRL-SHIFT-S key
> combo toggles the screen on/off for power savings during long
> computational operations.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack

Just as a side note, I know the subject of this post had the key
sequence of CTRL-SHIFT-s (lower case s), and I just had to try
this myself, and it didn't work.  The reason is I had my caps
lock on.  Once I turned it off the key sequence works to turn off
the screen and then turn it back on.

If I plug my LX in at night to recharge the batteries, do you see
any reason to turn the screen off, to either help the batteries
charge faster, or help the screen last longer?  Just curious.

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> If I plug my LX in at night to recharge the batteries, do you see
> any reason to turn the screen off, to either help the batteries
> charge faster, or help the screen last longer?  Just curious.

I don't think it will help in that situation. It should only help when
running on battery power only.

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 Mack

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Fernando,

There are plenty of free ISP in Belgium (www.yucom.com, www.swing.be,
etc..). Since a few months it has become the norm rather than the exception.
There is a number of free ISP in the UK but I don't have the addresses
handy.

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 /ves


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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> I am guessing you need the latest netware client. I remember seeing a
> netware/200lx networking FAQ about netware connectivity somewhere.
> Does it use the vanilla netware client or some special one? I think
> netware now use IP as the protcoll of choice now rather than IPX so,
> some IP stack + netware client should do the trick?

You're quite likely right, but I'm not sure the latest NetWare client can
be run with the 200LX and the Accton card ... for one thing, the Accton
card's ODI driver doesn't run on the 200LX, so it's always taken a special
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I had been getting this, too, ever since 12/31/1999.
But it did seem to set the clock, anyway.
However, last time I tried it I could not even connect.
(I think it was "handshaking error"--modems could not connect.)
I had been hoping for an update on SUPER, but I guess we
won't get one.
In the U.S. you can do it manually (cheaper) by calling
1-303-499-7111 and listening for the time at each minute mark.

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Hi There!

I saw earlier on the list that the latest version of Arachne should run
nicely on the 200LX. So I downloaded and installed it. Looks real good
and seams to support lost of HTML stuff.

But I am not so convinced about the performance on a 200LX. It took for
example 9 min 38 sec to fully download and display www.palmtop.net!!!

So either is it something I have configured wrongely, or it's just this
slow on a 200LX???

Any feedback is welcome.


Jorgen

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> But I am not so convinced about the performance on a 200LX. It took for
> example 9 min 38 sec to fully download and display www.palmtop.net!!!
>
> So either is it something I have configured wrongely, or it's just this
> slow on a 200LX???

I think it is this slow. In a previous thread about Bobcat, I listed some
download speeds using Arachne and the effect of light sleep. With light
sleep disabled, www.palmtop.net took only 2 min to display. Still way too
long, but better than almost 10.

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Hi,

My 95LX has a bad nick on the LCD screen and I was
wondering if anyone knows where can I buy a used
screen to replace mine?

I appreciate any pointers.

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:56:48 +0200
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On 1 Apr 2000 23:33:38 -0800, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:27:41 +0900, Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM> wrote:
>
> > One of my colleagues is thinking about switching back to the 200lx after a
> > bit of infidelity (Palm, Psion 5mx). He was interested in the possibility
> > using the IR to link with his cell phone. I'd appreciate comments on what
> > cellphones are known to work with the 200lx by IR.
>
> Working phones:
>
> Siemens S25, S35i
> Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
> Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)

You could also add the old Ericsson Sh888 to the working phones. Tomas
Moberg reported this.

Probably a typo..8250 should be 8850 and 8110 should be 8810? I have
never tested the 8110i with the irdongle But maybe it works.

Future phones that needs testing (S35i tested?) 6210 or 6250(not sure if these
has "real" irda/modem). Ericsson R320 and Nokia 8890(worldphone).

> The Nokia phones get a connection in most cases, but the connection is
> slower than 9600 because of the interference problems.

Is it possible to test this "for real" while connected to a isp? I have
tested Ring and gotten some good results and some not so bad..

Hmm maybe I could piggyback my backup Hplx running Ring while I am
connected to my isp with my main unit.. I will try this..

> The Motorola L (was reported some weeks ago by someone here on the list)
> got a good connection. Don'T know if it gets the full 9600 baus or
> less.

Hm I have to check out these Motorolas. But I have never liked them
There new tri band phone looks like the rookies phone they sell at the
gasstation and they melt I have heard :-).

> Since all phones only speak the IrDA protocol (the HLX speaks HPSIR),
> the two devices are not directly compatible. You have to use special
> software that allows the LX to speak IrDA.
> The only software for WWW, mail and news that speaks IrDA is the WWW/LX
> suite by D&A software.

Have you tried to use your S25 to beam phonenumbers from Hplx Phonebook
to phonebook of S25 Using the VCARD/OBEX standard?

I use it and it works like a dream. I have a "Clip" in Hplx Phonebook
which puts these fields into the Nokia 7110:

BEGIN:VCARD
N:"Name here"
TEL;WORK:"Office phone"(field 1)
TEL;CELL:"Mobilphone"
TEL;FAX:
TEL;HOME:
TEL:
TEL;WORK:"Office phone" (field 2)
EMAIL:
LABEL:"Address"
NOTE:
END:VCARD

Then I beam it with a Macro to the 7110 using Andreas Garzotto's
ir.exe. I can store 5 numbers and 2 textfields for each of the 1000
names in the phonebook on the 7110. (Only 2 of these fields can be
stored:email/Label/Note)

The S25 can not store more than one phonenumber per name, but it should
work to beam to them From the Hplx.

Does anybody know anything about the VCALENDER standard? I would like
to beam Appointments from HPlx to the 7110..But the pdf I have from
Siemens does not help me any. Can not find any pdf to the Nokia 7110.

Regards

--
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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:12:24 -0500
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<<<<My LX95 only has 4 pins. I dont have the manual.
Do you know the pin layout ?
Probably only Tx, Rx, Vcc and Gnd. No handshake ?!>>>>

I don't have the pinouts of the 95lx.  I seem to have misplaced my
manual.  But it uses the same cable as the HP48 calculator and there
is a diagram in the 48 manual.  I'm not an engineer and I don't
really know how to interpret it so I'll describe the diagram and it
may give you what you need.

It shows the pinouts as they connect to a pc through a 9 pin
connector on the other end of the cable.  From the left of the
calculator to the right it seems that theyre saying shield, rx, tx,
gnd.  I can't be sure that's what it's saying but it looks like it.
Then it shows 2 and 3 crossed and gnd going to 7 on the db9 and
shield going to 1 on the db9.  That part I'm sure of.  The 48 end is
unlabeled and the diagram isn't clear to me so I'm guessing by
following the lines back in the diagram.  But it's hard to be sure
about what I see going to the 48.

I hope that helps.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:27:41 -0700
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From my notes:


 name           db25    db9     hp95    din8    hp200   what

 shield         1       -       1       -       10      protective groundÝ1¨
 TxD    T->M    2       3       2       3       3       Transmitted Data
 RxD    M->T    3       2       3       5       2       Received Data
 RTS    T->M    4       7       -       6       7       Request To SendÝ2¨
 CTS    M->T    5       8       -       2       8       Clear To Send
 DSR    M->T    6       6       -       -       6       Data Set Ready
 gnd            7       5       4       4       5       signal ground
 DCD    M->T    8       1       -       7               carrier detect
 DTR    T->M    20      4       -       1       4       Data Terminal Ready
 RI     M->T    22      9       -               9       Ring indicator


Unfortunately, my notes don't say which pin is #1 and which is #4.
I do have these notes for the hp200:

Hp200 (case):

        1 2 3 4 5
        6 7 8 9 10

which leads me to suspect that the hp95 pins are numbered left-to-right
when you look at the case.

        -ed falk

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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:06:54 -0400
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              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available
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I would be interested, have you any left (20meg San Disk)?

-----Original Message-----
From: smoore <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: Compact Flash Disk, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are
Available


>I have (8) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are in
>very
>good condition. They have only been used a very few times on  testing a
>customer's prototype products at work. I am selling (1) 20 Meg disk for
>$35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I will sell (2) 20 Meg
>disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I also have (6) 20 Meg name
>brand Sandisks  available as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
>$40.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging and I will sell (2) 20 Meg
>Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping. Last but not least, I have
>obtained (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk name brand Simple Technology. I
>only have one and I know this will go fast since as soon as I posted
>what I had last time . I received about
>10 emails to purchase them. I am selling  (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk
>for $85.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I accept Money Orders
>only! and you can mail payment to my address at:
>
>Scott Moore
>20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
>Beaverton, Or 97006
>
>I will email you back the very same day I recieve your payment  and let
>you know that your disks our on the way. I always send out disks the
>very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I
>will mail them out on Monday. Please email me back and let me know if
>you are interested and when you are sending payment so I can hold your
>disks for you. The response on
>this group has been just great and the people I have worked with have
>been just Awesome!
>
>Thanks alot!  Scott
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:33:43 -0400
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Provided that i can get to the PO tommorrow before Noon i will send you the
$80.00 for two sandisks 20meg,
other wise first thing monday morning. Thanks Taylor
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Compact Flash Disk, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are
Available


>I would be interested, have you any left (20meg San Disk)?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: smoore <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:34 PM
>Subject: Compact Flash Disk, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are
>Available
>
>
>>I have (8) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are in
>>very
>>good condition. They have only been used a very few times on  testing a
>>customer's prototype products at work. I am selling (1) 20 Meg disk for
>>$35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I will sell (2) 20 Meg
>>disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I also have (6) 20 Meg name
>>brand Sandisks  available as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
>>$40.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging and I will sell (2) 20 Meg
>>Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping. Last but not least, I have
>>obtained (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk name brand Simple Technology. I
>>only have one and I know this will go fast since as soon as I posted
>>what I had last time . I received about
>>10 emails to purchase them. I am selling  (1) 48 Meg Compact flash disk
>>for $85.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I accept Money Orders
>>only! and you can mail payment to my address at:
>>
>>Scott Moore
>>20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
>>Beaverton, Or 97006
>>
>>I will email you back the very same day I recieve your payment  and let
>>you know that your disks our on the way. I always send out disks the
>>very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I
>>will mail them out on Monday. Please email me back and let me know if
>>you are interested and when you are sending payment so I can hold your
>>disks for you. The response on
>>this group has been just great and the people I have worked with have
>>been just Awesome!
>>
>>Thanks alot!  Scott
>>
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Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:17:32 -0700
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> What's light sleep? how do I disable it? Is this function only
> comes with the network card?
> By the way, I connect it with an external 56k modem.

Light sleep is an energy saving feature of the palmtop, which someone else
can surely explain better than I. The effect is that it slows down many
activities when running on batteries, including apparently file transfers
over network cards (probably modems too) and screen draws.

I use LXSTAT available on SUPER to temporarily turn off light sleep when
desired. Other utilities are also available to control this and other
features.

Arachne does work reasonably well on simple pages, but then WWW/LX and HV
works great on simple pages, with a much smaller footprint. Unfortuneately
neither work well on more complex pages.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:28:07 +0800
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Hi,

Yes, I can confirm that Motorola L-series works fine! No EMI problems
and 9600 connection speed.


Regards,

Jorgen

> Working phones:
>
> Siemens S25, S35i
> Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
> Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)
>

> The Motorola L (was reported some weeks ago by someone here on the =
list)
> got a good connection. Don'T know if it gets the full 9600 baus or
> less.
>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:01:48 +0200
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Just out of curiousity ....

has anyone already written some JAVA or Visual Basic code to create an
addressbook or phonebook?

I'm just in the middle of fiddling around with gdbdump and gdbload & a
bunch of CSV files, and the results are not as intended.

regards

peb

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:09:00 +0200
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Hi friends,

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:56:48 +0200, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> > Siemens S25, S35i
> > Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
> > Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)
>
> You could also add the old Ericsson Sh888 to the working phones. Tomas
> Moberg reported this.

Oh, yes, I forgot it.

> Probably a typo..8250 should be 8850 and 8110 should be 8810? I have
> never tested the 8110i with the irdongle But maybe it works.

8110 should be 8810. That's right.
I don't know about a 8850, but I know about a 82x0. Helmuth G|nther
reported that one to work. I cannot remember - was it 8210 or 8250? But
if both exist, both should work, since AFAIK the in the phone name ABDC
the AB is the model and the CD stands for what nets it supports. 10 is
900 MHz, 30 is 1800 MHz, 50 is dual band (900+1800), 90 is 1900 MHz.
Or is this wrong?

> Future phones that needs testing (S35i tested?) 6210 or 6250(not sure if these
> has "real" irda/modem). Ericsson R320 and Nokia 8890(worldphone).

I tested the S35i at Cebit and it worked fine. I don't really know if
it works better than the S25. For my it worked better, but that could
have been because of the circumstances.

> Have you tried to use your S25 to beam phonenumbers from Hplx Phonebook
> to phonebook of S25 Using the VCARD/OBEX standard?

I tried to send a MIDI file via OBEX to the S25. But it didn't work.

> I use it and it works like a dream. I have a "Clip" in Hplx Phonebook
> which puts these fields into the Nokia 7110:
>
> BEGIN:VCARD
> Ý...¨
> END:VCARD
>
> Then I beam it with a Macro to the 7110 using Andreas Garzotto's
> ir.exe. I can store 5 numbers and 2 textfields for each of the 1000
> names in the phonebook on the 7110. (Only 2 of these fields can be
> stored:email/Label/Note)

How do you call Ir.exe? Maybe I called it the wrong way? (Didn't try it
for a long time now)

GTX
daniel

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I have (1) 48 Meg  Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk available.
This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a few times
on testing out a customers prototype product at work. I am selling this
disk for $85.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (7)
20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash  disks available. I sell  (1) disk for
$35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I still have (6)  name brand 20 Meg
PCMCIA  Sandisks available as well. I sell (1) 20 Meg  disk for $40.00
plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 MEg Sandisks for
$75.00 plus $5.00 shipping.
I accept Money orders only! and you can send payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you  back the very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks our on the way. I always send out the very next
day unless I receive you payment on a Saturday and then I will send out
your disks on  Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place
them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are
interested , email  me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or
(disks) for you. The response on our group has been just terrific and
the people I have worked with have been just great!  Thanks alot!
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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:14:45 -0500
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              Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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              SuperHighway
Subject:      FS: XJ2144 PCMCIA modem (reduced price)
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> XJ2144 modem                  $20 (plus $2 shipping in the US)

 14.4k bps.  No dongles to lose!  Low power...perfect for your palmtop.

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Disk,
              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available
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Is there something special about the  Simple Tech card?

I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple Tech) selling for $87
(search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is listed as selling for
$120-$127.

I have the 48mb Sandisk myself and have been pretty happy with it.

- Longden





Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM> on 04/08/2000 09:03:56 AM

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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Compact Flash Disk,              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks
      are Available




I have (1) 48 Meg  Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk available.
This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a few times
on testing out a customers prototype product at work. I am selling this
disk for $85.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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              Available
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Hi Longden, No there is noithing reallly special about it. It is a name brand
Simple Technologies 48 Meg Compact flash disk which is pretty much brand new. I
thought they were selling for around $120.00 to $130.00 when I called around last
week. I am pretty sure that is what they are out of the package and I just checked
pricewatch and they are selling for $125.00.  After  receiving your email now. I
will offer the disk for $80.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging to  be a
little more competitive to the  group.  Thank for you input and support!     Scott

Longden Loo wrote:

> Is there something special about the  Simple Tech card?
>
> I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple Tech) selling for $87
> (search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is listed as selling for
> $120-$127.
>
> I have the 48mb Sandisk myself and have been pretty happy with it.
>
> - Longden
>
> Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM> on 04/08/2000 09:03:56 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Compact Flash Disk,              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks
>       are Available
>
> I have (1) 48 Meg  Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk available.
> This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a few times
> on testing out a customers prototype product at work. I am selling this
> disk for $85.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
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              GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
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Simple Tech has had no business relationship with Lexar since 1998. In
view of a recent successful legal outcome for Sandisk concerning
litigation between Sandisk and Lexar a Sandisk stock holder I know
contacted Simple Tech to ask if they had any relationship with Lexar.
In their reply Simple Tech indicated that they receive their flash
components from Hitachi who pays appropriate license fees to Sandisk.
It was not clear from the context if the components they obtained from
Hitachi included the controller technology or if this came from another
source (eg SSTI which has a cross-licencing agreement with Sandisk).

GaryS
 (A Sandisk stockholder)

> I think that the Simple Tech cards use the Lexar controller ... unless
> that is the same as the Hitachi controller, or unless they've changed over
> to Hitachi.

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Subject:      PAL PROGRAMMING...
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Hi There!

I have realized that PAL is missing a multiline text edit box. Anyone
have done it or know a PAL program with source code which displays for
example a text file?

Thanks,

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:11:17 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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All this talk about compact flash had me looking for prices again, and I see
that some CFs are described as "clamshell compact flash" whereas most others are
simply "compact flash".

Can anyone tell me what the distinction is (if any)?

Thanks.

- Longden

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              Darren Frick <dfrick@ALTAVISTA.COM>
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On Sat, 08 April 2000, Peter Eberl wrote:

>
> Just out of curiousity ....
>
> has anyone already written some JAVA or Visual Basic code to create an
> addressbook or phonebook?
>
> I'm just in the middle of fiddling around with gdbdump and gdbload & a
> bunch of CSV files, and the results are not as intended.
>
> regards
>
> peb
>

I believe the Outlook to HPLX thingy is a VB app. I have used that programme to convert the bible in .GDB format to an Outlook file. There is some code, probably on SUPER, that was being floated around while the listmembers were figuring out the workings.

Check into the Outlook stuff, I think that'll help.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:59:18 -0700
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Disk,
              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available
Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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> Is there something special about the  Simple Tech card?
yesh, its not as good, mor xpensive, and less efficient.>

I have both and the Sandisk CF works in the PC110
and video kameras.  More energy efficient.  Get it.

> I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple
> Tech) selling for $87
> (search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is
> listed as selling for
> $120-$127.
>
> I have the 48mb Sandisk myself and have been pretty happy
> with it.  Its good aint it?  If it woiks, don fool wit
it.
>


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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:02:16 -0700
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Subject:      Re: What is a clamshell compact flash
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klamshell CF fits into a doo hicky that reeds
the CF.  In essence a flash disk drive.



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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:29:17 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 8 Apr 2000 09:17:13 -0700, Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET> wrote:

> > XJ2144 modem                  $20 (plus $2 shipping in the US)
>
>  14.4k bps.  No dongles to lose!  Low power...perfect for your palmtop.

I trade it with you if you are interested in the same modem only 28.8.
I got one which is called XJ4288 and I can not get it to work with the
Hp200lx I got. Probably draws to much..

I have no use for this modem, but I liked the Xjack connector so if you
are interested in a trade let me know..

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:29:19 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 8 Apr 2000 07:12:04 -0700, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:56:48 +0200, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:
>
> > > Siemens S25, S35i
> > > Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
> > > Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)
> >
> > You could also add the old Ericsson Sh888 to the working phones. Tomas
> > Moberg reported this.
>
> Oh, yes, I forgot it.
>
> > Probably a typo..8250 should be 8850 and 8110 should be 8810? I have
> > never tested the 8110i with the irdongle But maybe it works.
>
> 8110 should be 8810. That's right.

Okey..

> I don't know about a 8850, but I know about a 82x0. Helmuth G|nther
> reported that one to work. I cannot remember - was it 8210

Yes the 8210 is the small "cute" one from Nokia. It is the smalles ever
(I think) just now.

> or 8250? But
> if both exist, both should work,

There is also a 8850 which is the same phone internal as the 8210. The
only difference is that it has blue leds and alu(real) case and is the
"big brother" of the 8810. Looks real flashy and probably will work
since the 8210 with the same internals work. But it is more expencive
than the 8210 and heavier but flashy were the 8210 is cute :-)

> since AFAIK the in the phone name ABDC
> the AB is the model and the CD stands for what nets it supports. 10 is
> 900 MHz, 30 is 1800 MHz, 50 is dual band (900+1800), 90 is 1900 MHz.
> Or is this wrong?

Yes I think you are right. But I am not sure if this is the case
anymore. I think the 8210 is a dual 900/1800 too. I know the 8850 is
dual. The 6110 was 900Mhz and 6150 was dual so I am not sure anymore
about the 8210.

The new worldphone the 8890 is either tri band or two band 900/1900 so
I do not think Nokia follow there own rules anymore..

> I tested the S35i at Cebit and it worked fine. I don't really know if
> it works better than the S25. For my it worked better, but that could
> have been because of the circumstances.

Who knows..>

> > Have you tried to use your S25 to beam phonenumbers from Hplx Phonebook
> > to phonebook of S25 Using the VCARD/OBEX standard?
>
> I tried to send a MIDI file via OBEX to the S25. But it didn't work.

There are free programs that run on WinXX platform via irda which will
let you transfer ringtones. It is called Quickbeam. I have it here on
my hd, but it should not be a problem finding it on the web.

> How do you call Ir.exe? Maybe I called it the wrong way? (Didn't try it
> for a long time now)

I save the clip from the phonebook in a file. Then the macro runs this
via a Icon in Appmgr:

ir.exe oput vcard.vcf

In the ir.cfg I have set the baud to 9600. Works probably with higher
speeds too..

I have to enable ir on the 7110 first. Then I get "Buisnisscard
recevied" and all is well :-) I have to edit the buisnisscard and
choose callergroup that is all.

I will look into the convert programs that Andreas ship with his PIM
package. I hope I can use it for something. But I do not want to switch
to PIM..(yet:-)

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On 7 Apr 2000 22:30:49 -0700, Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, I can confirm that Motorola L-series works fine! No EMI problems
> and 9600 connection speed.

Nothing at all using the Ring program? Thats nice!

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:41:32 +0200
Reply-To:     furlan@gmx.net
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Comments:     Resent-From: "Dr. Werner Furlan"<furlan@gmx.net>
Comments:     Originally-From: Werner Furlan <furlan@gmx.net>
From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
Subject:      Omniprn
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hello all,

I tried to print from my Hp200 with the Omniprn program which
I found on the s.u.p.e.r Homepage.
My printer {Epson LQ 850} made a lot of noise, but did not
print anything.
Has anybody ever printed with this program and had more success
than me?

best regards,

Werner

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:10:04 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: PCTime error 5??
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:18:31 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:
 time segments OK, but then fails to
> >    reset time & gives that error.
>
> Hi Al & gang ---
>
> After getting Al's post, and looking over the program log, a likely
> answer occurred to me.  My last setting was in December.  It's probably
> the dreaded Y2K problem.  PCTime may not be able to handle dates after
> 12/31/99....
>
> Just a guess.  If so, it was a good program while it worked.  RIP

Hi All,

Good guess Peniel and I think you're right. I just logged on and got the =
same
error. (:-(



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Subject:      Re: Adapeter Cable for HP95 LX
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hello Luis,

with my HP200 LX cable I got a 4/10 pin adapter that would probably
fit to your 95LX.
So I could propose you 3 ways to proceed:

1. you buy a serial HP200 LX cable
and you will probably get the 10 Pin - 4 Pin adapter with it.

2. you want to have my adapter (I do not need it) and make the cable
yourself.

3. I measured what pins correspond in the adapter

if you look on your 95LX Palmtop the Pins are probably as follows:

   1    2   3     4
    =B0    =B0    =B0     =B0

the pins on the 200LX Palmtop are as follows: (looking at the Palm
from outside)

    1   2    3   4   5
     =B0   =B0    =B0    =B0    =B0
     =B0   =B0    =B0    =B0    =B0
    6   7   8    9   10

The connections in my adapter are as follows:

 95Lx          2000LX
    1   -------    10     shield
    2   --------     3        txd
    3   ---------    2        rxd
    4   ----------   1        cd

hth,
Werner

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:37:49 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 100LX and 48MB FLASH Card
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My remarks about Simple Tech now using the Hitachi controller were based
on a comparative report in a Microtech Int web page about a month or more
ago.  Included in that summary was an independent article from a
technology
reporter for the Washington Post confirming the faster read and write
speeds
in the digital photography setting.  I'm 78 and should have known better
than
to comment since I had not confirmed anything for myself.  I humbly
apologize.

When I first posted the url for Microtech Int It was my hope that someone
would
check it out.  It was not at all my intent to even appear to refute
information given
by Dave or any of the other regulars on this list.  I feel confident that
anyone among
them is better equipped than I to make technology judgements.  Otherwise,
I
would not have joined the list.  And I still think it would be a great
service for all
if Mark Willis, Daniel in Germany or other tecxhnical types could make a
rather
definitive comparison of the CF cards particularly.

Forgive me if I've wasted important space and time.

Ray Simons

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:05:20 -0400 GaryS <garys@IBM.NET> writes:
> Simple Tech has had no business relationship with Lexar since 1998. In
> view of a recent successful legal outcome for Sandisk concerning
> litigation between Sandisk and Lexar a Sandisk stock holder I know
> contacted Simple Tech to ask if they had any relationship with Lexar.
> In their reply Simple Tech indicated that they receive their flash
> components from Hitachi who pays appropriate license fees to Sandisk.
> It was not clear from the context if the components they obtained
> from
> Hitachi included the controller technology or if this came from
> another
> source (eg SSTI which has a cross-licencing agreement with Sandisk).
>
> GaryS
>  (A Sandisk stockholder)
>
> > I think that the Simple Tech cards use the Lexar controller ...
> unless
> > that is the same as the Hitachi controller, or unless they've
> changed over
> > to Hitachi.
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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:28:49 +0800
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Hi,

> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, I can confirm that Motorola L-series works fine! No EMI problems
> > and 9600 connection speed.
>
> Nothing at all using the Ring program? Thats nice!

I never said that. What I am saying is that it does not cause any
problems.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:58:08 +1200
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I am looking for an HP200LX in or near to Auckland

David Lawrence
4/4 Oaklands Road
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025 2932 888

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Why not check "Ebay.com"?

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hello,

I got with my Palmtop HP200/LX which I bought as an occasion a
PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem Card IBM 14.4/14.4.
Reading the reports about power consumption of different Pcmcia
Cards on the list, I wanted to know the current that my card draws.
I started post/lx and measured the current from the batteries while
the connection of my ISP and download of mail, it varies from
150mA to a peak current of 500 mA at a battery voltage of 3.0 V.
As I cannot measure the current direct from the Pcmcia card, I would
like to know, what your experiences are. Is 500 mA too high for the
healthy future of my palmtop?
I do not use the card very often, but it worked without any problem up
to now.

thanks for sharing your experience,

Werner


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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 09:48:37 -0500
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<<<<I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple Tech)
selling for $87
(search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is listed as
selling for
$120-$127.>>>>

I just looked around for low Sandisk 48 meg CF prices.
Shopper.cnet.com must have had a sale at $87.  They're now $102.
The best price pricewatch.com found was $115 but there were several
at $116.  Most were over $120.

Buy.com has the 48 meg Sandisk CF 48 meg for $97.95 and even has the
64 meg at $123.95.

So, while you can easily find them above $120 it's not hard to find
them a lot cheaper.  I'm not sure how you price used cards under
these conditions, but I think I'd rather pay $97.95 for a new one
than $85 for a used one.  But with the 64 meg at $123.95 I don't
think I'd buy a 48 meg.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 07:57:20 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Hi Barry, Well after reading the posting yesterday and seeing how
competitive the market is out there on these disks I have decided to
drop my price on the (1) 48 Meg Simple Technologies disk I have for sale
to $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Honestly this disk is
pretty much brand new and I just want to make sure I am selling it for a
fair price. If you are interested you can email me back at this email
address or  at   ( smoore523@home.com )  I accept Money orders only and
you can mail payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Thanks  Again!      Scott

Barry wrote:

> <<<<I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple Tech)
> selling for $87
> (search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is listed as
> selling for
> $120-$127.>>>>
>
> I just looked around for low Sandisk 48 meg CF prices.
> Shopper.cnet.com must have had a sale at $87.  They're now $102.
> The best price pricewatch.com found was $115 but there were several
> at $116.  Most were over $120.
>
> Buy.com has the 48 meg Sandisk CF 48 meg for $97.95 and even has the
> 64 meg at $123.95.
>
> So, while you can easily find them above $120 it's not hard to find
> them a lot cheaper.  I'm not sure how you price used cards under
> these conditions, but I think I'd rather pay $97.95 for a new one
> than $85 for a used one.  But with the 64 meg at $123.95 I don't
> think I'd buy a 48 meg.
>
> Barry
>
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<<<<My remarks about Simple Tech now using the Hitachi controller
were based
on a comparative report in a Microtech Int web page about a month or
more
ago.  Included in that summary was an independent article from a
technology
reporter for the Washington Post confirming the faster read and
write
speeds
in the digital photography setting.  I'm 78 and should have known
better
than
to comment since I had not confirmed anything for myself.  I humbly
apologize.>>>>

I don't think you've done anything that needs an apology, except
maybe this apology. :)

You reported what you read.  Someone else had what is probably
equally or slightly less reliable information to the contrary.  I
don't think we really know who is correct yet.  Even if someone is
curious enough to follow this up and finds that the other guy was
correct, he might not have if you hadn't told us what you've read.
So right or wrong, yours is a positive contribution, in my opinion.

If we couldn't contribute things we've read and heard and even our
opinions without trips around the world to research for ourselves,
this list would be fairly worthless.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:02:16 -0100
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Hi,

is any German user out there how likes to share some
experiences and knowledge concerning ccLXPOP and the
German implementation of cc:Mail?

Regards Norbert

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:42:50 -0400
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Ray,

Everybody contributes to the forum and by everybody doing so some
semblance of reality as opposed to advertising hype emerges. I hope you
did not take my post as criticism of your comments - it was not
intended that way. In a constantly changing technology it is hard to
say who is best or fastest at any one moment. Add into the mixture that
some companies use deceptive advertising (Lexar IMO) and that reporters
can over rely on company press releases (have not seen the Washington
Post article so I am not saying that reporter did) and you have a
system ripe with confusion. An example of deceptive advertising is a
speed comparison that Lexar had on their web site some time ago that
compared their latest technology to that of older Sandisk technology -
I am not sure if that page still exists.

I had hoped that my post made it clear that I did not know where Simple
Tech got their controllers from but that they did not have a direct
business relationship with Lexar. Of course this statement does not
preclude Hitachi from providing them with controllers that originated
at Lexar!

At various conferences etc. Sandisk executive personnel have emphasised
data reliabilty over speed so they probably do not have the fastest
controllers in the business. The cross licensing with SSTI would tend
to confirm this statement - why cross-license a controller technology
if their own was adequate?

The problem with forum members trying to test these technologies is
that they are constantly evolving and the differences are getting
smaller as everybody improves.

As a Sandisk stock holder I will comment that while I might
prefer you to buy a Sandisk card<g> - it does not really matter as
pretty much everybody else (except Lexar) pays royalties to Sandisk any
way :-) Simpletech is at a competitive disadvantage wrt Sandisk in the
pricing market because they are a card assembler - they make none of
the components and must negotiate with suppliers in advance. Sandisk on
the other hand makes many of the components for themselves. As there is
currently a global shortage of flash chips companies like Simpletech
have trouble negotiating with suppliers if they have to do so at this
moemnt in time. The flip side of this is that Sandisk can not make
enough product to meet demand (order books are full for at least the
next quarter) and so we the consumer should not expect price reductions
for a while - except Lexar media fire sales:-) I might mention that
Sandisk and Toshida (a strategic partner) are building a fab
facility in N. Carolina (?) that should go online before the end of the
year IIRC.

Now, how much of my post is advertising, mistruths (unintentional - I
assure, if there are any) :-)

Finally, please continue to post comments and questions - that way
everybody benefits from the answers or has an opportunity to correct a
misunderstanding. Online fora are strange because the only `emotion' is
expressed through the words typed which may appear abrupt because the
typist is in a hurry even though that is not their intent. my biggest
problem with this forum (and others) is that I have little time to
participate as much as I could or would like too.

Oh, btw age is irrelevant here - just nice to know you are keeping
yourself interested - my parents who are ~20 years younger than
yourself have yet to touch a computer!

GaryS

> My remarks about Simple Tech now using the Hitachi controller were based
> on a comparative report in a Microtech Int web page about a month or more
> ago.  Included in that summary was an independent article from a
> technology
> reporter for the Washington Post confirming the faster read and write
> speeds
> in the digital photography setting.  I'm 78 and should have known better
> than
> to comment since I had not confirmed anything for myself.  I humbly
> apologize.
>
> When I first posted the url for Microtech Int It was my hope that someone
> would
> check it out.  It was not at all my intent to even appear to refute
> information given
> by Dave or any of the other regulars on this list.  I feel confident that
> anyone among
> them is better equipped than I to make technology judgements.  Otherwise,
> I
> would not have joined the list.  And I still think it would be a great
> service for all
> if Mark Willis, Daniel in Germany or other tecxhnical types could make a
> rather
> definitive comparison of the CF cards particularly.
>
> Forgive me if I've wasted important space and time.
>
> Ray Simons

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:43:46 -0400
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> Working ÝIRDA¨ phones:
>
> Siemens S25, S35i
> Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
> Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)

Thanks for the list.  Is anyone usng any of these phones in
the United States?  With which cellular carriers?


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:55:40 -0500
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I was trying to buy a power adapter for the lx200 at radio shack but there
are so many choices.
I saw a 12v 1000ma adapter that looked pretty good but the faq on the palm
web site said it should be 12v 750ma.
At radio shack they said that the 1000ma adapter worked up to 1000ma meaning
that it handled what was required up to the 1000ma limit.
Any ideas?


Regards,

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:45:20 -0400
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New products in original packaging.

8 pcs left in stock

HP P/N  My P/N   Description                  Price

F1011A  974202   AC/DC ADAPTER FOR THE 200LX  36.00

Shipping for up to 2 pcs in USA $ 3.20

Credit Card, Money Order or Check


Thanks,

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:46:53 +0100
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              Paulo Custodio <paulocustodio@YAHOO.COM>
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Is this possible, using the built-in charging program, or is it
dangerous?

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:53:03 -0700
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              "David B. Rogers" <dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM>
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The thing to be worried about is that most of the wall wart
from radio shack and similar places have virtually no
regulation.  Typically, they might run 15 or 16 volts
without a load applied.  If the specified load isn't there,
then it may be less than 15 or 16 volts, but still enough to
make the machine run hot.  MCM sells a power supply which,
while it is a little large for toting around, offers about
1/2 dozen voltages -- all regulated -- at about 2 amps max.
They sell for $10.00 or $12.00 and are well worth the money.

I am sure that there are others with more expertise than I
who can comment, but those little regulated supplies from
MCM really are a bargain.

David, WA7ZYQ

"Kelley, Timothy P" wrote:
>
> I was trying to buy a power adapter for the lx200 at radio shack but there
> are so many choices.
> I saw a 12v 1000ma adapter that looked pretty good but the faq on the palm
> web site said it should be 12v 750ma.
> At radio shack they said that the 1000ma adapter worked up to 1000ma meaning
> that it handled what was required up to the 1000ma limit.
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Kelley
> GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
> 713-432-2036
> N: 29.716837 W: -95.462008
>
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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:32:02 -0700
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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Hiya Paulo
> Is this possible, using the built-in charging
program, or is it dangerous?
>
Naw, doo it all the time.
Suggest yu load up first with an off line charger
then just trickle charge every night on SLOW with
one of those SUPER utilities.



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Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:28:27 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun,  9 Apr 2000 19:37:37 -0500 (EST)

02h49m21s ago ...
On Sun,  9 Apr 2000, Paulo Custodio wrote:

> Is this possible, using the built-in charging program, or is it
> dangerous?

Yep, it's possible.  Only problem is that the built-in charging
"program" is only a software 6 hour timer.  Charges at 100mA for 6
hours, then drops to 40mA.  Modern NiMH will need 2 cycles (at least)
to fully charge.

The built-in system has no intelligence.  For "smart" charging, you can
try D&A Software's ABC/LX or the freeware Charge-It! by yours truly (on
SUPER).


HTH

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Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:14:06 -0700
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On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> The built-in system has no intelligence.  For "smart" charging, you
> can try D&A Software's ABC/LX or the freeware Charge-It! by yours
> truly (on SUPER).

The latest speed driver by Mack Baggette lets you charge the batteries on
high current forever ... which is pretty much what you need to do with
NiMH batteries.

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On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Barry wrote:

> You reported what you read.  Someone else had what is probably equally
> or slightly less reliable information to the contrary.  I don't think
> we really know who is correct yet.  Even if someone is curious enough
> to follow this up and finds that the other guy was correct, he might
> not have if you hadn't told us what you've read. So right or wrong,
> yours is a positive contribution, in my opinion.

If anybody can still get ahold of Bernie Torbik, he would know exactly
what's going on.  I remember Sandisk and Lexar were involved in a lawsuit
of some kind, so perhaps they DID switch over to using the Hitachi
controller.  I'm not sure and all I know is, when I got my Simple Tech
cards, up to the 160MB card, they were using a Lexar controller ... but
that was up to a year and a half ago.

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I'm not interested.  I was just commenting about the going price.
To me there's a big difference in new and fairly new.  The warranty
is the main difference.

Barry

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> Hi Barry, Well after reading the posting yesterday and seeing how
> competitive the market is out there on these disks I have decided
to
> drop my price on the (1) 48 Meg Simple Technologies disk I have
for sale
> to $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Honestly this
disk is
> pretty much brand new and I just want to make sure I am selling it
for a
> fair price. If you are interested you can email me back at this
email
> address or  at   ( smoore523@home.com )  I accept Money orders
only and
> you can mail payment to my address at:
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> Thanks  Again!      Scott
>
> Barry wrote:
>
> > <<<<I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple Tech)
> > selling for $87
> > (search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is listed
as
> > selling for
> > $120-$127.>>>>
> >
> > I just looked around for low Sandisk 48 meg CF prices.
> > Shopper.cnet.com must have had a sale at $87.  They're now $102.
> > The best price pricewatch.com found was $115 but there were
several
> > at $116.  Most were over $120.
> >
> > Buy.com has the 48 meg Sandisk CF 48 meg for $97.95 and even has
the
> > 64 meg at $123.95.
> >
> > So, while you can easily find them above $120 it's not hard to
find
> > them a lot cheaper.  I'm not sure how you price used cards under
> > these conditions, but I think I'd rather pay $97.95 for a new
one
> > than $85 for a used one.  But with the 64 meg at $123.95 I don't
> > think I'd buy a 48 meg.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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I just saw a newspaper ad for Sandisk CF and it appears they're offering a $20
rebate (at least thru one dealer), so maybe that explains the price disparity.

- Longden





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<<<<I see shopper.cnet.com lists 48mb Sandisk (not Simple Tech)
selling for $87
(search for "48mb compact flash"), although the Simple is listed as
selling for
$120-$127.>>>>

I just looked around for low Sandisk 48 meg CF prices.
Shopper.cnet.com must have had a sale at $87.  They're now $102.
The best price pricewatch.com found was $115 but there were several
at $116.  Most were over $120.

Buy.com has the 48 meg Sandisk CF 48 meg for $97.95 and even has the
64 meg at $123.95.

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On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, GaryS wrote:

> Simple Tech has had no business relationship with Lexar since 1998.

Your post explains it ... I somehow missed this one.  Thanks for clearing
it up.  So do you know if Lexar still makes flash cards?  Their controller
was, as I recall, as fast as the Hitachi controller while taking up a lot
less power.

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On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Ray Simons wrote:

> It was not at all my intent to even appear to refute information given
> by Dave or any of the other regulars on this list.  I feel confident
> that anyone among them is better equipped than I to make technology
> judgements.

Heck no!  My information is a couple years old, and you were right.  Even
us regulars need correcting ... often quite frequently.  <g>

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Hi all,

I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?

Thanks for your help
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On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On 8 Apr 2000 09:17:13 -0700, Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET> wrote:
>
> > > XJ2144 modem                  $20 (plus $2 shipping in the US)
> >
> >  14.4k bps.  No dongles to lose!  Low power...perfect for your palmtop.

Does anybody know what the difference between the XJ1144 and the XJ2144
modems are?  Just curious.

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hello,

I use a switching power supply I found at www.conrad.at

it is called:

Schaltbares Universal-Steckernetzger=E4t  Switcher
Bestellnummer 511250-62
1 St=FCck : =D6S 449,-
  32,63

sri, in german. It can be switched from 3-12V, polarity is also
selectable with turning the plug, it is very small, lightweight and has
nearly no power loss. For portable use the best you can get IMHO.

In general you can use every regulated 12 V DC power supply with at
least
700 mA current. Polarity has to be correct: plus inside, minus outside.

regards,
Werner




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> Date:    Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:55:40 -0500
> From:    "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
> Subject: Power adapter
>
> I was trying to buy a power adapter for the lx200 at radio shack but
> there are so many choices. I saw a 12v 1000ma adapter that looked pretty
> good but the faq on the palm web site said it should be 12v 750ma. At
> radio shack they said that the 1000ma adapter worked up to 1000ma
> meaning that it handled what was required up to the 1000ma limit. Any
> ideas?
>



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On 9 Apr 2000 08:46:10 -0700, Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> wrote:

> > Working ÝIRDA¨ phones:
> >
> > Siemens S25, S35i
> > Nokia 7110, 8110, 8210, 8250,
> > Motorola L series (if I rememer correctly)

7110=900/1800 Mhz will be a 7190 for 1900 Mhz real soon. Saw something
in the news about a network buying Nokia 7190 and other Nokia stuff for
millions..I am not sure who..

8110=should be 8810 (typo)=900Mhz only

8210=900(1800?) Mhz only

8250=Typo should be 8850=900/1800 Mhz will be a 8890 which will work on
1900 Mhz in the US soon.(Worldphone)

> Thanks for the list.  Is anyone usng any of these phones in
> the United States?  With which cellular carriers?

The Nokia 61** has been used over there for a while and also 2190 and
more old phones. No phone has had irda as the new ones that are coming
now for your Gsm network (I think). Ericsson also has a worldphone, but
I am not sure if it has irda.

My knowledge is limited when it comes to US gsm networks..

Hope this helped in any way..

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David Sargeant asked about the difference between the XJ1144 and
XJ2144 modems.  I had always thought the XJ2144 was a "marketing"
upgrade (i.e., a ploy to aid sales).  Both are covered in the same
manual in which I've previously found no different treatment.

I took a closer look at the manual this morning and found (on page
4-4) a statement that the XJ2144 has flash ROM.  It also says that
the XJ2144 uses MNP 10 networking protocol to enhance cellular
performance (given that you have the Megahertz Cellular
Compatibility kit).

I didn't see any other differences.

Ted

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Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:38:44 -0500 (EST)

06h12m26s ago ...
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> In general you can use every regulated 12 V DC power supply with at
> least
> 700 mA current. Polarity has to be correct: plus inside, minus outside.

True, EXCEPT for the polarity.  The palmtop wants negative center,
positive outside - the reverse of the usual arrangement.  Radio Shack
(Tandy) sells a couple of regulated supplies that work fine.  Both have
selectable voltage.  One's a switcher - about the size of the HP
adapter (but without the cool folding plug).  The other has a linear
regulator, and is larger and heavier (and cheaper).


HTH

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hello Peniel,

I regret my fault, you are of course right with the polarity
Plus outside
Minus inside would have been correct.
But as far I know no harm happens to the HP when the polarity is wrong.

Werner

On 10 Apr 2000, at 14:53, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> > In general you can use every regulated 12 V DC power supply with at
> > least 700 mA current. Polarity has to be correct: plus inside, minus
> > outside.
>
> True, EXCEPT for the polarity.  The palmtop wants negative center,
> positive outside - the reverse of the usual arrangement.  Radio Shack
> (Tandy) sells a couple of regulated supplies that work fine.  Both have
> selectable voltage.  One's a switcher - about the size of the HP adapter
> (but without the cool folding plug).  The other has a linear regulator,
> and is larger and heavier (and cheaper).
>



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Where can one download this driver.

He upgraded my 200 LX to a 32 MB ram unit years ago.  I wonder if I can use
this new driver.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
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> On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> > The built-in system has no intelligence.  For "smart" charging, you
> > can try D&A Software's ABC/LX or the freeware Charge-It! by yours
> > truly (on SUPER).
>
> The latest speed driver by Mack Baggette lets you charge the batteries on
> high current forever ... which is pretty much what you need to do with
> NiMH batteries.
>
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Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:44:39 -0500 (EST)

FWIW:

   I never got my XJ1144 to work with WWW/LX(I think others have?) It
   worked OK w/Nettamer. The XJ2144 works great for all applications I
   use (WWW/LX, BGFAX, PPPDOS...)

   Cheers...AJKind

06h07m31s ago ...
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > On 8 Apr 2000 09:17:13 -0700, Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET> =
wrote:
> >
> > > > XJ2144 modem                  $20 (plus $2 shipping in the US)
> > >
> > >  14.4k bps.  No dongles to lose!  Low power...perfect for your =
palmtop.
>
> Does anybody know what the difference between the XJ1144 and the XJ2144
> modems are?  Just curious.
>
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--- David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> The latest speed driver by Mack Baggette lets you
charge the batteries on high current forever ...
which is pretty much what you need to do with
> NiMH batteries.
>
Wats the diff between high current and default charging?
Sometimes I default charge wen I know it is only for a
short period of time (1-4 hrs) but the unit gets hot
towards the end.  I usually trickle charge if I'm a
little low, and I plan to leeve it on all night.


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>    I never got my XJ1144 to work with WWW/LX(I think others have?) It
>    worked OK w/Nettamer. The XJ2144 works great for all applications I
>    use (WWW/LX, BGFAX, PPPDOS...)

There are a number of variations of the XJ1144, at least 5 that I know of.
I have a Poqet Plus, and two of the variations work with it, the others
don't. Maybe it's the same with the LX, not all variations work.

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<<<<Oh, btw age is irrelevant here - just nice to know you are
keeping
yourself interested - my parents who are ~20 years younger than
yourself have yet to touch a computer!>>>>

After 20 years of trying to interest my father in computers he's
finally gotten interested (at age 82) in the internet.  I got him a
computer and I've been teaching him how to use it and he's really
enjoying it.  He spends a lot of time seeking out old friends and
business acquantences from past years and emailing them.  He's
gotten a lot of replies, a couple from people he hasn't seen in 40
or 50 years.

And it's probably more fun for me than it is for him.  :)

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<<<<The thing to be worried about is that most of the wall wart
from radio shack and similar places have virtually no
regulation.  Typically, they might run 15 or 16 volts
without a load applied.  If the specified load isn't there,
then it may be less than 15 or 16 volts, but still enough to
make the machine run hot.  MCM sells a power supply which,
while it is a little large for toting around, offers about
1/2 dozen voltages -- all regulated -- at about 2 amps max.
They sell for $10.00 or $12.00 and are well worth the money.>>>>

I've found that I have much fewer problems with electronic devices
of all kinds if I don't plug them in.  I charge the batteries
externally and then swap them.  There's a large improvement in
reliability in the devices I can do that with.  I've had the power
company check my power, both here and at my previous location.  In
both cases they said it wasn't good enough that I shouldn't have
problems.

I've never plugged in an lx device and I have only had one
problem...when I let the battery go totally dead on the 95lx I got
the power indicator problem that HP knew about and fixed free.

I have 4 old 486 laptops.  I used to have 7 of them.  The three that
I had to plug into the wall to charge are all dead.  The 4 that I
have external chargers for have never had a problem.

A Discman would typically last 6 months to a year until I stopped
plugging them in.  I've never had a problem since.

I don't plug nuttin' in unless I just gotta.

Given that power is always troublesome, and chargers are cheap, I
can't see why people want to plug in their lx's.

Barry

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Hi all,

I need a source to purchase some hi-capacity Ni-MH batteries for
my LX.  I used the green Shier System 1300 mAhNi-MH's for a
while, then switched to Radio Shack's 1200mAh about a year ago.
I think I have cooked my latest set well enough now, and am
ready to buy a new pair.  I charge them at high current for the
maximum time, each time my LX is plugged in (yes I know Avi, its
not the optimum usage of ABC/LX).

I am not being very nice to my batteries, but I don't care, I
want them fully charged at all times, and the minor cost for a
pair of batteries, is a minor cost.  I also leave one of my ST
40 meg flash cards in my slot at all times, and my batteries
don't last very long lately.  The last time I pounded on the
palmtop hard, I only got about six hours before I had to put my
back up alkalines in.

There has been lots of chatter lately in regards to the 1500 &
1600 mA Ni-MH's, but I don't know where to order them from.  I
would prefer to walk in a store to purchase them, rather than
buying from the web, but if I have to get them from the web, to
get the newer hi-cap Ni-MH's, then I would buy from the web.  I
would at least like a company that I can call and talk to a live
person, even if it is at my expense.

I did go to the Digikey web site, but could not find what I was
looking for.  Any suggestions on brands or performance?  I
thought I heard mention on Panasonic making some.  Thanks.

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Hi all,

I have repeatedly hit menu Q, at the main menu, to attempt to
exit from system manager, and somehow end up starting up
Quicken.  The problem is I am not currently using Quicken, so it
when it starts, it wants to setup the program, which
automatically creates a Quicken sub-directory, which I have to
go delete, each time it gets created.

I have tried to edit the Quicken icon, but the name field is not
editable, so I can't take out the &Q, to stop the hot key from
working.  Does any one know how to get around this, so I can
stop accidently starting up Quicken?  Is there another way
around this.  I can't believe I am the only one who somehow
manages to accidently startup Quicken, when they didn't mean to.
Thanks.

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A simple solution would be to add or rename another icon so that its trigger is
"Q" also, then move the Quicken icon to AFTER that other icon (using F7/Order in
AppMgr).  The icon with the same trigger key that occurs first is the one that
gets "triggered".

If you add a new icon, you can just make it something benign, like
"d:\dos\command.com /c echo" and the inverted question mark to suppress the
"press enter to return..." message.  This just makes the menus go away and come
back.  Or you can reprimand yourself using:

     d:\dos\command.com /c echo Stop that or you'll go blind!!

     - and remove the inverted question mark

- Longden





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Hi all,

I have repeatedly hit menu Q, at the main menu, to attempt to
exit from system manager, and somehow end up starting up
Quicken.  The problem is I am not currently using Quicken, so it
when it starts, it wants to setup the program, which
automatically creates a Quicken sub-directory, which I have to
go delete, each time it gets created.

I have tried to edit the Quicken icon, but the name field is not
editable, so I can't take out the &Q, to stop the hot key from
working.  Does any one know how to get around this, so I can
stop accidently starting up Quicken?  Is there another way
around this.  I can't believe I am the only one who somehow
manages to accidently startup Quicken, when they didn't mean to.

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Robert Hocking wrote:

> working.  Does any one know how to get around this, so I can
> stop accidently starting up Quicken?


Someone (Ed, I think) posted directions a while back on how
to remove native LX applications from the App Manager.  If
I remember correctly, it had to do with using a hex editor
to overwrite the bits of \_dat\appmgr.dat that called out the
application.

By the way, don't try editing this file with Memo--you need a
hex editor (I learned the hard way).

Ted

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You might want to check out the Olympus Camedia batteries (1450, NiMH) sold in a
lot of good camera stores ... pushed along with Olympus digital cameras.

I had a set that's lasted for over a year and still get fairly good life, plus
they seem to charge fast.

As for other brands, I've compared the Olympus batteries to some 1500mAh
Digikeys and the latter gets a bit more life, albeit with a longer charge time.
For example, I charged the Olympus to a max of 2.90v for 13 hours (from
completely dead) and it ran a continuous batchfile loop test for 18 hrs, 42 min.
The DigiKey was never able to charge higher than 2.87v, and took 15 hours to do
so (also from a complete drain), but ran the same test for 20hrs, 37min.

I bought the DigiKey cells from another list member (Mike Kopplin), so I don't
have a local source for those.... but they compare close enough that I'd just
buy the Olympus cells at the camera shop (when and if the old ones ever quit).
Sold for about $25 for a set of 4 cells.  They also sell a set with a charger,
but I charge mine in the LX using ABC/LX.

While you're at it, you might want to look for a 48mb Sandisk CF at the same
store, if battery life is important to you.  I got something like an extra 2
hours of use in switching from my 40mb Simple Tech flash card to the Sandisk CF.

- Longden





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Hi all,

I need a source to purchase some hi-capacity Ni-MH batteries for
my LX.  I used the green Shier System 1300 mAhNi-MH's for a
while, then switched to Radio Shack's 1200mAh about a year ago.
I think I have cooked my latest set well enough now, and am
ready to buy a new pair.  I charge them at high current for the
maximum time, each time my LX is plugged in (yes I know Avi, its
not the optimum usage of ABC/LX).

I am not being very nice to my batteries, but I don't care, I
want them fully charged at all times, and the minor cost for a
pair of batteries, is a minor cost.  I also leave one of my ST
40 meg flash cards in my slot at all times, and my batteries
don't last very long lately.  The last time I pounded on the
palmtop hard, I only got about six hours before I had to put my
back up alkalines in.

There has been lots of chatter lately in regards to the 1500 &
1600 mA Ni-MH's, but I don't know where to order them from.  I
would prefer to walk in a store to purchase them, rather than
buying from the web, but if I have to get them from the web, to
get the newer hi-cap Ni-MH's, then I would buy from the web.  I
would at least like a company that I can call and talk to a live
person, even if it is at my expense.

I did go to the Digikey web site, but could not find what I was
looking for.  Any suggestions on brands or performance?  I
thought I heard mention on Panasonic making some.  Thanks.

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This doesn't directly address your question, but here's what I did:

Last fall I noticed that my 200LX was getting a bit raggedy (the hinge crack had occurred and been fixed, several keys had become "soft" and would sometimes repeat, etc.)

So, I bought one of the last new 200LX's I could find on the market (from one of the bigger direct-mail outfits).

My first 200LX gave me seven years of great service, and I'm hoping this new one will do the same.  I hope that within that timeframe a suitable device (truly pocket sized, real keyboard, decent database program, etc.) will become available.

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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
> select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
> copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
> This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?

Download PalEdit from SUPER or DASoft again and reinstall it. Check
your config and macro files.

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Hi Listers.

I'm writing a suite of software using ASIC, and my routine
for displaying a menu screen or a data entry screen seems
to run very slowly on the palmtop, and presumably on an XT.
Unfortunately my target users generally have only old
hardware, so this is a bit of a problem.
My screens all have a nice double-line border, but the
slowness allows the user to see the screen being built line
by line.

Does anyone know of a really fast way to display output to
the screen, or alternatively, a way to prevent the screen
displaying anything until all the lines are 'printed'?
Sorry if I haven't explained this very well.

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Hi,

Have you looked at the ASIC libraries available here:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/basic/ibrary31.zip
http://www.filelibrary.com/Contents/DOS/73/1.html


I've done some asic programming and I think one of these libraries had some
fast screen writing routines. I wrote a simple little train schedule program
that's on super and works well on the LX (search for 'trainsch'). it comes
complete with source code. I did a screen menu on this program and it's
pretty zippy... Let me know if it helps.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Whitmarsh Ýmailto:lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM¨
>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 6:47 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ ASIC Screen Rountine
>
>
>Hi Listers.
>
>I'm writing a suite of software using ASIC, and my routine
>for displaying a menu screen or a data entry screen seems
>to run very slowly on the palmtop, and presumably on an XT.
>Unfortunately my target users generally have only old
>hardware, so this is a bit of a problem.
>My screens all have a nice double-line border, but the
>slowness allows the user to see the screen being built line
>by line.
>
>Does anyone know of a really fast way to display output to
>the screen, or alternatively, a way to prevent the screen
>displaying anything until all the lines are 'printed'?
>Sorry if I haven't explained this very well.
>
>Cheers, Roger Whitmarsh
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Hello to all!

I'm trying to setup PPPD on my 200LX but I can't. Before
download DOS PPP pack and read the instructions I can't
run it.

The modem and connection works fine if for instance:

CHAT0 -p COM2 -s 96000 '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxxxx CONNECT


The problem is when I try to do it via PPPD:

PPPD com2 9600 "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"


Then, it doesn't dial and the output is:
_____________________________________

PPP link is down, driver not installed
______________________________________


Is needed some additional driver? Do you know what
mistake I've been doing?

Thank you

Fernando Ruiz

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>Hi,
>Have you looked at the ASIC libraries available here:
>http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/basic/ibrary31.zip
>http://www.filelibrary.com/Contents/DOS/73/1.html
>I've done some asic programming and I think one of these libraries had
some
>fast screen writing routines. I wrote a simple little train schedule
program
>that's on super and works well on the LX (search for 'trainsch'). it comes
>complete with source code. I did a screen menu on this program and it's
>pretty zippy... Let me know if it helps.


Thanks very much Ed, that's exactly what I'm looking for. The add-ons in
ASILIB12 from FileLibrary look like what I need. Also have your trainsch
for reference.

>Cheers, Roger

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I have had a great response to the WordPerfect software packages on eBay,
they seem to be a pretty hot item, so here's another one up for grabs:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=305944718

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Radio shack has 1500's.


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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Fernando Ruiz wrote:

> The problem is when I try to do it via PPPD:
>
> PPPD com2 9600 "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"
>
>
> Then, it doesn't dial and the output is:
> _____________________________________
>
> PPP link is down, driver not installed
> ______________________________________
>
> Is needed some additional driver? Do you know what
> mistake I've been doing?


I would suggest trying epppd.exe

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Hi Theodore:

Thank you but If I understand well 'epppd' is for ethernet
and 'pppd' for serial connections. I try the suggestion
but I've been obtained the same output.

> PPP link is down, driver not installed



At the las message I had an error:

> PPPD com2 9600 "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"

is

> PPPD com2 9600 connect "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"


Thank you, any suggestion more?

Fernando Ruiz

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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 5:34 AM
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Fernando Ruiz wrote:

> The problem is when I try to do it via PPPD:
>
> PPPD com2 9600 "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"
>
>
> Then, it doesn't dial and the output is:
> _____________________________________
>
> PPP link is down, driver not installed
> ______________________________________
>
> Is needed some additional driver? Do you know what
> mistake I've been doing?


I would suggest trying epppd.exe

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:33:46 +0930
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Version 2.5 of LXTCP (The HP200LX TCP/IP Suite) and version 3.5 of PNR
(The Palmtop News Reader) have been released.

No major changes, apart from a new maintainer.  See the documentation
for the minor changes.

For various business, personal, and PDA-platform reasons, I am unable to
continue HP200LX development.  Note that I still read HPLX-L (on my
HP200LX, of course), and my HP200LX still continues to be my main source
of connectivity when I am travelling on business.

The fifth lesson in open-source software development from "The Cathedral
and the Bazaar"
(http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar-2.html)
says:

"5. When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand
it off to a competent successor."

David Sargeant has graciously volunteered to take over the maintenance
of LXTCP and PNR, with behind-the-scenes help from a couple of other
people.  David felt that it was important to maintain the centrality of
the open-source networking solutions for the HP200LX, so he will act as
the "font-man" for these programs.  It also gives him a prime
opportunity to become *the* HPLX networking and open-source C
programming guru !

My sincere personal thanks go to David.

-- Rod Whitby, Snr Staff Engr, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:39:47 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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Have you installed the cic100 driver? It's in the d:\bin directory, that's
assuming that you are using a card modem. You need to install that before
you can use pppd. I have that in my autoexec.bat then have my pppd.cfg file
setup with what I need.

MarkJ

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Network Support Consultant
Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:10:10 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> Have you installed the cic100 driver? It's in the d:\bin directory,
> that's assuming that you are using a card modem. You need to install
> that before you can use pppd. I have that in my autoexec.bat then have
> my pppd.cfg file setup with what I need.

Of course, it is highly recommended that, if it works with your modem, you
switch to LXCIC by Stefan Peichl.  A much smaller, more powerful, and more
flexible program.

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:25 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Flash card formatting...

Hi all,

What's the latest in fdisk/formatting/checking a flash card? I have a friend
with a MP3 player and a 96 MB card that is possibly duff. He has tried
changing the MP3 player but to no avail. So we are left with the CF-card.
What I would like to do is format it (and fdisk it) so that it is as clean
as possible. He has a laptop and I have a 200LX.

Is a normal W95 fdisk, format & scandisk ok?

I expect I can use fdisk100 on the 200LX, does it format too? I don't find a
format command in the d:\bin directory...

tia+br

Franklin

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:21:23 +0800
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Subject:      Re: PPPD
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Hi There!

I assume that you connect to an ISP- if so, you probably get a new IP
address at evry connection. So with other words, you have to use a class
1 driver to emulate bootp- which is the epppd.

If it doesn't dial, your chatsrc script file has a problem- probably the
init part. Then you should try to change the line 'modem' in ppdrc.cfg
to 'local'. Now it should work fine.......

This is the way I solved my problem to connect.

Regards,


Jorgen


> Thank you but If I understand well 'epppd' is for ethernet
> and 'pppd' for serial connections. I try the suggestion
> but I've been obtained the same output.
>
> > PPP link is down, driver not installed
>
> At the las message I had an error:
>
> > PPPD com2 9600 "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"
>
> is
>
> > PPPD com2 9600 connect "CHAT '' AT&F OK ATDTxxxxx CONNECT"
>
> Thank you, any suggestion more?
>
> Fernando Ruiz
>

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:56:42 +0000
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Flash card formatting...
Comments: cc: franklin@ONLINE.NO

   >a friend with a MP3 player and a 96 MB card that is possibly duff.
   >He has tried changing the MP3 player but to no avail. So we are
   >left with the CF-card. What I would like to do is format it (and
   >fdisk it) so that it is as clean as possible. He has a laptop and I
   >have a 200LX.
   >Is a normal W95 fdisk, format & scandisk ok?
   >I expect I can use fdisk100 on the 200LX, does it format too? I
   >don't find a format command in the d:\bin directory...

I'd expect a normal W95 fdisk and format to work OK on any card bound for
the LX, but I'll admit that's conjecture (I haven't done this in years ...
if at all).  After it's done, chkdsk on the LX (or any good disk utility)
should reveal any abnormalities (unwanted hidden files, large clusters,
etc).

But the same utilities already exists on the LX:

d:\bin\fdisk100.exe   and  d:\dos\format.com

Might just run a little slower on processing a 96mb card <g>.

BTW, I'm not sure I've ever heard of a flash/CF being permanently damaged
or altered by a format/fdisk where it couldn't be undone.

I'd personally try the fdisk/format on a laptop first, because it should
only take a few seconds, and if it fails to read properly on the LX, then
fdisk100/format on the LX...... but I'll admit it's not my dollar (or
whatever they use in Norway).

- Longden


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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:32:57 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Re: Flash card formatting...

Hi,

> d:\bin\fdisk100.exe   and  d:\dos\format.com

Going blind... Didn't even see the dos directory... Sort of converted to
windows\command... :-)

We use a "kroner", a crown, here in Norway. Your dollar is an old Norwegian
denomination, a "daler"... :-)

Thanks for the info!

br

Franklin

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:33:03 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:40:30 -0500 (EST)

11h38m22s ago ...
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Kelley, Timothy P wrote:

> Radio shack has 1500's.

Has anyone tried these?  The 1200s I tried a while back were (to put it
kindly) disappointing.  Rapid self-discharge, and actually less useful
life in the LX than RS HiCap Nicads (850mAHr).


Later

Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:06:05 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SELECTION IN PE
Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
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Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES> wrote:

> I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
> select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
> copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
> This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?

I use selections with PE all the time and don't see this
happening, so it certainly is not normal for PE.

Did it ever work correctly?  I wonder if you may be pressing a
regular character key after making the selection.  With PE, if
you highlight a selection and then press a key, such as A, it
will delete the selected text and replace it with the A.
Could you be doing that?

Of course, a corrupted copy of PE.EXE or it's support files it
a possibility.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:06:08 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ASIC Screen Rountine
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Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> I'm writing a suite of software using ASIC, and my routine
> for displaying a menu screen or a data entry screen seems
> to run very slowly on the palmtop, and presumably on an XT

The slowness on the palmtop could be caused by the power
saving lite sleep mode.  Try the same program with the palmtop
plugged into external power and see if it runs faster.  If it
does then this confirms that lite sleep (the processor going
to sleep during calls to the BIOS) is causing the delays.  And
this would not happen with a regular PC/XT.

If you target is not the palmtop, then perhaps you can live
with the slowness on the palmtop being assured it is faster on
a XT or only test the speed while the palmtop is on the AC
adapter.

If your target is the palmtop, then you will have to re-write
your routines to not use whatever BIOS routines you are using
that are allowing lite sleep.  Usually this happens if you
are checking for a keypress.  This BIOS routine puts the
processor to sleep for a while after checking for a key and
not seeing one.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:06:11 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Charging Nickel Hydride batteries in the HPLX
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hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> What's the diff between high current and default charging?

The palmtop can charge the batteries at either 100 ma (high
rate) or 40 ma (low rate).  Normally, with undisturbed
charging, the palmtop will fast charge for 6 hours and then
drop down the slow charge for ever after that.  But if the
palmtop is disturbed (meaning AC is disconnected, then
connected again or charging disabled/enabled) then it will
restart the 6 hour cycle again.

There are lots of programs available to change the 6 hour
cycle time or manually select fast or slow charging.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:06:13 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: key mapping
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Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> wrote:

> I have repeatedly hit menu Q, at the main menu, to attempt to
> exit from system manager, and somehow end up starting up
> Quicken

When I am in AppMgr and press Menu Q, then AppMgr closes.  The
way I get Quicken is if I just press the Q without the Menu
key.

If you cannot get rid of the Q being the shortcut key for
Quicken, then you can create an icon for something harmless
and define it's shortcut key to be Q and then make sure this
icon appears before the Quicken icon.  Then a Q keypress will
shortcut your new harmless icon instead of Quicken.

Or you can install Buddy and get used to using Menu, Period to
quit from any application and Menu, DEL to close all
applications and Menu, Shift-DEL to terminate Sysmgr.  And the
Buddy keys are available in all applications.


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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:55:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Source found for 1500 mAh Ni-MH batteries
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A list member wrote to me notifying me that Radio Shack now
carries 1500 mAh AA Ni-MH batteries.  I called my local Radio
Shack and asked the store clerk to check to see if the had a
pair, and he found that they sold some Ni-MH batteries that were
1300 mAh, and some that were 1500 mAh, both having the same part
number, for the same price.  Odd.

One pair of the batteries were $9.99, and two pair were $17.99.
I bought the one pair, because I will be charging them in my LX,
so I don't need two pair, to swap charged, for discharged.  I
won't be running any fancy battery test on these batteries
either, because I need my LX to be ready at all times, but I
will post back if they seem to be working O.K. for me, or not.

Thanks to all for the feedback.

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:23:47 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, GJColeman@CSI.COM
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> I have repeatedly hit menu Q, at the main menu, to attempt to
> exit from system manager, and somehow end up starting up
> Quicken....

First, to exit system manager, you go to Application Manager
and hit Menu,A,T.  Menu Q just exits Appl Manager.

Q is the hot key for Quicken.  If you are getting Quicken, then
the Menu key is not getting read.  This happens to me,
sometimes, when I don't push the menu key quite hard enough.
Try Alt, Q instead.  Or ESCape - does the same thing!

To  be sure you don't get Quicken accidentally, assign another
EXM to the Q key and move it ahead of Quicken in the App Mgr
list.  (I use QuickView.)  Use key200 to reassign the
Quicken key itself to Notepad, viz.:

    Ctrl Quicken : ¬Ctrl Ctrl Quicken ¬Quicken ¬Ctrl
    Alt Quicken : Alt Quicken ¬Quicken ¬Alt
    Quicken : Ctrl Memo ¬Memo ¬Ctrl ! Quicken=3DNotepad

-Geo.-

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:23:43 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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From:         "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
Subject:      Compact flash
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Is there any secret to getting the compact flash to work?
I just bought the sandisk pcmcia adapter and have a 48 mg cf for it, but the
lx doesn't see it.

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
N: 29.716837 W: -95.462008

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:54:37 -0700
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Should be no trick, unless the formatting on the card is somehow incorrect or
maybe not formatted.

When you plug the card into the slot and turn on the LX and go to filer, it
should show up as drive A (normally) without fanfare.

When in doubt, run the d:\bin\fdisk100.exe program to initialize the card (as in
wiping out everything), then run d:\dos\format.com to format it.

If that doesn't work, then it's time to panic.

- Longden





"Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM> on 04/11/2000 10:23:43 AM

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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Compact flash




Is there any secret to getting the compact flash to work?
I just bought the sandisk pcmcia adapter and have a 48 mg cf for it, but the
lx doesn't see it.

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I was trying it in a 100lx that i had, and it wouldnt work, so i put it in a
200lx and it came right up.
I noticed it flashed briefly something like directory server or somthing
like that in the 100 but 200 is ok.
Could it have something to do with llras?


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:55 PM
To: HPLX Mailing List; Kelley, Timothy P
Subject: Re: Compact flash





Should be no trick, unless the formatting on the card is somehow incorrect
or
maybe not formatted.

When you plug the card into the slot and turn on the LX and go to filer, it
should show up as drive A (normally) without fanfare.

When in doubt, run the d:\bin\fdisk100.exe program to initialize the card
(as in
wiping out everything), then run d:\dos\format.com to format it.

If that doesn't work, then it's time to panic.

- Longden





"Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM> on 04/11/2000 10:23:43 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Compact flash




Is there any secret to getting the compact flash to work?
I just bought the sandisk pcmcia adapter and have a 48 mg cf for it, but the
lx doesn't see it.

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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:30:53 -0500 (EST)

01h16m43s ago ...
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Kelley, Timothy P wrote:

> I was trying it in a 100lx that i had, and it wouldnt work, so i put it =
in a
> 200lx and it came right up.
> I noticed it flashed briefly something like directory server or somthing
> like that in the 100 but 200 is ok.
> Could it have something to do with llras?

Nope...  The 100LX has an older version of the PC card driver that
doesn't work with more modern cards.  If you can get it, ACECARD.COM
will enable it.  There may be other drivers available.  I think
Thaddeus has a driver for the real monster (>220MB) that might also
work, but I don't know if they'll sell it separately.


HTH

Peniel
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What do all of you consider your MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?

I still run pretty lean, but am considering adding a few new apps/utils to my beloved 200LX.

I currently depend upon these applications (and features-of-applications):

     use a lot
     ---------
         Buddy
         custom task manager created with builtin database and macros
         Appointment
         Phone
         Visible Clock
         Stopwatch / timer
         Appt's "|" feature for scheduling backups
         mv, rm (MKS toolkit) to facilitate rotating backups

     use less frequently
     -------------------
         Memo for editing documents
         Note Taker for storing/retrieving reference info
         HP Calc (and solver)
         CMC100 (Computer Math Calc)

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              TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Must have palmtop apps, imho:

1) Collins dictionary
2) Automap road atlas
3) Zipkey zipcode-areacode-city-state database

Tom Salwasser

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From: Brent Geske <brent_geske@MENTORG.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?


>
> What do all of you consider your MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
>
> I still run pretty lean, but am considering adding a few new apps/utils to
my beloved 200LX.
>
> I currently depend upon these applications (and features-of-applications):
>
>      use a lot
>      ---------
>          Buddy
>          custom task manager created with builtin database and macros
>          Appointment
>          Phone
>          Visible Clock
>          Stopwatch / timer
>          Appt's "|" feature for scheduling backups
>          mv, rm (MKS toolkit) to facilitate rotating backups
>
>      use less frequently
>      -------------------
>          Memo for editing documents
>          Note Taker for storing/retrieving reference info
>          HP Calc (and solver)
>          CMC100 (Computer Math Calc)
>
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>

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Stan wrote:

>The slowness on the palmtop could be caused by the power
>saving lite sleep mode.  Try the same program with the palmtop
>plugged into external power and see if it runs faster.  If it
>does then this confirms that lite sleep (the processor going
>to sleep during calls to the BIOS) is causing the delays.  And
>this would not happen with a regular PC/XT.
>more....

Thank you Stan. I didn't realise the LX would enter lite sleep mode
during execution of a program. I'll try it with the charger and see what
happens.

Cheers, Roger

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I finally broke down and downloaded all the archives since 1997 till now.
The question is, how do I best search this huge collection of zipped
files?
I know just about everything I may ask is already answered in there
somewhere,
but how do I get at it?  If glimpse cannot handle it I am not sure how
can I.

Suggestions welcomed

Domingo

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That is about the only DOS program that will sell well on Ebay.  I want
to sell some of my
old stuff, but $1 is too little to part with my stuff.  :-(

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:38:20 -0500 Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> writes:
> I have had a great response to the WordPerfect software packages on
> eBay,
> they seem to be a pretty hot item, so here's another one up for
> grabs:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=305944718
>

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Hello everyone.   I have a microporte external modem.   I have used it to
dial to mindspring with
ww/lx, Goin postal, lxpop and lxmta, as well as nettamer.   The problem
currently is that it dials,
it connects, but the ppp link is not made.   Www/lx gives me various
errors, never the same one,
Goin postal and lxpop do not make the link, and nettamer does work,
period.
I suspect the modem, but since it dials and conects, I am not sure what
to try.
Username and password were checked many times.  Epppd setting changed
from modem to local, with no effect.    I connect with Win95 just fine.

The only time I have heard of special connecting scripts was with
Nettamer,
which doesnt work in the latest version (I dont have version 108, the
last known
by me to work fine).

Any ideas appreciated.

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:36:11 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> For various business, personal, and PDA-platform reasons, I am unable to
> continue HP200LX development.  Note that I still read HPLX-L (on my
> HP200LX, of course), and my HP200LX still continues to be my main source
> of connectivity when I am travelling on business.

Rod,

Thank you for all that you have done for the palmtop community. I use
various components of your LXTCP suite, PNR and LXETH on a daily basis,
for home, work and on the road.

Someone just asked about must-have applications. These are mine. Without
the flexible network capabilities of these programs, I'm not sure I'd
still be using a 200LX.

Sincerely,
Mike Kopplin

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Brent Geske wrote:
> What do all of you consider your MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?

The HPLX-L list is as important as an app.  I wouldn't know about most
of the following without everyone's input.  Thanks to all of you!

#1 has to be Software Carousel (1 200LX = multiple logical LXs)
Tiny Editor - lots of function, only 10k
SecureDevice (Encrypted logical drive, holds all my pws & other secrets)
WWW/LX (Email & NGs, but HV doesn't work w/ IBM.net)

Mack's T2T enhanced LXs and drivers.  I've got plenty of room in my 32M
(single speed) LX.  I was always squeezed in my 200LX-4M even with a 10M
flash card.

Curtis Cameron's games:
  FreeCell
  10K
  Klondike solitaire (sol.exe)

I like the built in Appointment and Phone DBs
I run DBCheck on them to give myself a warm fuzzy.  (Curtis again)

Cheers... Russ

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              Paul Khoury - Tech Support <pkhoury3@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Searching the list archives
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At 06:31 PM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I finally broke down and downloaded all the archives since 1997 till now.
>The question is, how do I best search this huge collection of zipped
>files?
>I know just about everything I may ask is already answered in there
>somewhere,
>but how do I get at it?  If glimpse cannot handle it I am not sure how
>can I.
>
Glimpse is very slow on large archives.

If anyone knows a good web based or UNIX solution, let me know also.

I keep archives of several lists as well, including this one.

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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D Dv wrote:
> I finally broke down and downloaded all the archives since 1997 till now.
> The question is, how do I best search this huge collection of zipped
> files?

I too keep all the archives on my desktop (including the old list that
Mitch ran).

I don't do searches too often so I haven't come up with anything more
glamerous than...
 - unZip all the archives to an empty directory
 - run Norton's Txt Search to locate my keywords.

cheers... Russ

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<I am not being very nice to my batteries, but I don't care, I
want them fully charged at all times, and the minor cost for a
pair of batteries, is a minor cost.  I also leave one of my ST
40 meg flash cards in my slot at all times, and my batteries
don't last very long lately.  The last time I pounded on the
palmtop hard, I only got about six hours before I had to put my
back up alkalines in.

There has been lots of chatter lately in regards to the 1500 &
1600 mA Ni-MH's, but I don't know where to order them from.  I
would prefer to walk in a store to purchase them, rather than
buying from the web, but if I have to get them from the web, to
get the newer hi-cap Ni-MH's, then I would buy from the web.  I
would at least like a company that I can call and talk to a live
person, even if it is at my expense.>>>>>

You can get the 1600 mAh Kodak Ni-MH batteries at
www.thomasdistributing.com.  Kodak claims this is a new technology
that self discharges slower and has a longer overall life.  They say
it should charge at least 1000 times.

I've bought a few things from Thomas Distibuting for my camera and
have found them reliable.

Barry

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<Does anyone know of a really fast way to display output to
the screen, or alternatively, a way to prevent the screen
displaying anything until all the lines are 'printed'?
Sorry if I haven't explained this very well.>>>>

The usual way to improve screen access speed is to write directly to
screen memory.  Using dos or the bios is a little bit slow.  I'm not
sure what asic does but it's probably using the bios.

You might check and see if asic lets you do something like basic's
poke.  If so, and if it's fairly fast, you can use that to write
directly to the screen.

If that doesn't work out, see if it lets you have assembly
functions.  There are a lot of assembly fast update routines around
to use with QuickBasic.  They might or might not work with asic.

By the way, why are you using asic when QuickBasic is downloadable
free all over the web now?  Asic might or might not be better but
you can be sure there is MUCH more stuff like this available for
QuickBasic.  Using an offbrand compiler basically means you're on
your own.

Barry

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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Does anyone know of any DOS software that would allow me to log my kids'
baseball/softball games via the LX? I'm pretty sure that there is some
type of Palm software that does this but it would be nice to be able to do
it on the LX and then come home and transfer the info to the desktop for
printing, etc..

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:37:23 -0700
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Vern Beurg's "List" is probably a good program to use. It is at

http://www.buerg.com/

Looks like you have to go finagle your way into the ftp site to download
v9.4. I'm using that and fv200 for y2k compatibility.

Bob

D Dv wrote:
>
> The question is, how do I best search this huge collection of zipped
> files?

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From: "_LS_" <alpas@iname.com>
To: "Daniel Hertrich" <d.hertrich@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: 95-LX CABLE
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:31:52 +0100

Yes, thanks a lot
This will help me.
I think I have enough info to build the cable. Just need to improvise an HP
connector and hope not to burn the PC.
I will check if it has 5V but I dont hv an osciloscope. I hv a multimeter
but this will not be adequated.
I will get some help from a friend who might hv an osciloscope.
Thanks for yr help and also to the other people who helped.
Luis Sousa
alpas@iname.com




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From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@gmx.de>
To: <alpas@iname.com>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:53 AM
Subject: 95-LX CABLE


> Hi
>
> hope the messages I forwarded to you from the mailing list help you to
> make or find the right cable!
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
>
> Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de
> homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
> telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:45:35 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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Domingo,

You're not finished downloading yet. Visit the Palmtop Archives at
www.palmtoppaper.com All issues of PTP from 1991-1999. (50+ Mbytes)
Searchable on the
Web.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Looking on www.shareware.com under baseball on DOS I found
two programs
The readme says:
GMX - Game Manager
                is a powerful  tool the handle many of your
game
                assignment needs for the umpire-in-chief and
division convenors.

                o  auto game scheduling
                o  auto assign umpires
                o  game/umpire/location lists
                o  create payroll lists
                o  financial reports
                o  notebook/calendar
                o  track team standings
                o  chart location usage
                o  global editing & help

BATTER-UP  - Baseball Stats Manager
                will give you all  the stats control you
need
                for your team and several others in an easy
to use format.

                o track team/player/game stats
                o create rosters/lists
                o standings by criteria
                o offensive/defensive stats
                o auto create line-ups
                o notebook/calendar
                o print reports/letters/etc
                o division reports
                o online help

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fingerprint =  33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4  7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E
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Hi,

Interesting to see how people use their palmtop PCs. 200LX is my primary
PC and my must have apps are (no special order):

Software Carousel
WWW/LX & POST/LX
PalEdit
LXTCP tools.
LXgFTP
LXPIC
LXCIC
LXPRO
Collins English Dictionary
Quicken 8.0
MS Word 6.0 for DOS
MS Excel 2.1
Norton Commander 4.0
Turbo C
HP Alarm Clock
PostIt

Ahh, I better stop here- the list will be to long. Of 64MB RAM & 220MB
flash card, I only have about 20MB free.

Regards,

Jorgen

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I would have to add InfoSelect to your list, unless someone knows of a
better general purpose, powerful and easy to use info manager . . .

------Original Message------
From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 11, 2000 11:17:43 PM GMT
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?


Brent Geske wrote:
> What do all of you consider your MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?

The HPLX-L list is as important as an app.  I wouldn't know about most
of the following without everyone's input.  Thanks to all of you!

#1 has to be Software Carousel (1 200LX = multiple logical LXs)
Tiny Editor - lots of function, only 10k
SecureDevice (Encrypted logical drive, holds all my pws & other secrets)
WWW/LX (Email & NGs, but HV doesn't work w/ IBM.net)

Mack's T2T enhanced LXs and drivers.  I've got plenty of room in my 32M
(single speed) LX.  I was always squeezed in my 200LX-4M even with a 10M
flash card.

Curtis Cameron's games:
FreeCell
10K
Klondike solitaire (sol.exe)

I like the built in Appointment and Phone DBs
I run DBCheck on them to give myself a warm fuzzy.  (Curtis again)

Cheers... Russ

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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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D Dv wrote:
>
> I finally broke down and downloaded all the archives since 1997 till now.
> The question is, how do I best search this huge collection of zipped
> files?
> I know just about everything I may ask is already answered in there
> somewhere,
> but how do I get at it?  If glimpse cannot handle it I am not sure how
> can I.

My pick would be PalEdit which has a binary search feature. Run it with
the archives on your desktop for speed reasons (you need PALRUN to
emulate palmi on your desktop).

Another nice add on to PalEdit is FIND/LX which does an approximate
search (similar to search routines used e.g. at AltaVista). I use it if
I don't know the exact search string. You can find it a DASoft.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Always a good topic--here's my list.


Use daily:
---------
LXTCP/PNR
LXTELNET
MaxDos
List
HP Alarm Clock
Time Tracker
LXCIC

Use weekly:
----------
WPerfect 5.1
LXPic
10k
Sol
DBCheck
Zip/Unzip

Use occasionally:
----------------
Jetutil
Lighton
Mpack
LXFTP, LXPING
QFax
Vertical Reader
World Travel
PGP262
LXEN2216
Yahtzee
Dominoes
FreeCell


There are quite a few little utilities I keep hanging around
that I rarely use, but won't croak "just in case."  I also use
the built in apps quite a bit, especially ApptBook, PhoneBook,
Memo, Filer, 123, and HPCalc.

Thanks to all the folks that have contributed to the wonderful
pool of LX software; especially Rod Whitby, Curtis Cameron,
Stephan Peichl, Jorgen Wallgren, Andreas Garzatto, and Gilles
Kohl.

Ted

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PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C  A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:09:40 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Winfried,

> Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES> wrote:
>
> > I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
> > select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
> > copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
> > This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?

Maybe you defined a macro that takes the shift-down and converts it
into a shift-pagedown + delete? Maybe you defined this macro by
accident somehow by recording it without knowing of that...

Take a look into PE.CFG and deactivate all macros temporarily.

GTX
daniel



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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> Hi all,
>
> I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
> select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
> copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
> This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?

I think you do it right, but PE maybe corrupt? I cannot
duplicate what you describe. Shift-Down arrow just moves
and highlights one line at a time. Maybe you press the Fn
also somehow? This would produce Page down and basically a
full screen will be marked.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:18:08 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Barry wrote:
> After 20 years of trying to interest my father in computers he's
> finally gotten interested (at age 82) in the internet.

I bet he still did not want to, but _his_ father :-)
pressured him!

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Subject:      Re: FS: XJ2144 PCMCIA modem (reduced price)
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Al Kind wrote:

>    I never got my XJ1144 to work with WWW/LX(I think others have?) It
>    worked OK w/Nettamer. The XJ2144 works great for all applications I
>    use (WWW/LX, BGFAX, PPPDOS...)

Curiosity: WWW/LX has no idea what modem it is working
with. It takes the modem init string and dutifully passes
it on to the port. The only command WWW/LX does with a
modem is what it is told, except the hang up +++ATH at the
end of the session.

So the question I am curious about is if you used the
identical modem initalization for both modems, and if so,
does the 1144 have something about itself that it does not
respond to some specific command?

Just idle curiosity... :-) ...

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Robert Hocking wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have repeatedly hit menu Q, at the main menu, to attempt to
> exit from system manager, and somehow end up starting up
> Quicken.

Menu Q in the main menu of icons quit Applications Manager,
not System Manager. Try Menu, Application, Terminate All to
quit from SysMgr.

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Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
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I would add from my list of MUST HAVE palmtop software:

WWW/LX Plus with Post to get all of my Internet Email.

acCIS 4.0 for all of my work in CompuServe forums.

Software Carousel which makes it all happen.  I have SC
sessions for SysMgr, WWW/LX Plus and acCIS and I can switch
betwwen then in a few seconds.  Fantastic.

PalEdit (PE) for all of my editing needs.  I compose all of my
messages with PE and edit every other text file with it also.


Stan

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:03:44 -0500 (EST)

Hi gang-

My must-haves would include:

Loaded at startup:
Mack's dbl-speed driver and TREMM
A font loader (my own fonts)
MaxDOS
MoreEXM
Buddy

Use all the time:
X-Finder (instead of AppMgr/Filer)

Communications:
WWW/LX
COMMO

Editors:
VDE
PE

Battery Management:
Charge-It!

Entertainment:
Games - Mostly Curtis Cameron's

Miscellaneous:
LXPic
SetCOM1
Vertical Reader
Visible Clock
HisWord
DBCheck
HP-Pygmy Forth
WhereIs
KeyM

There are more, but that's plenty for now...


Later

Peniel
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Subject:      FS: 200LX 32MB & accys
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From: ButaGA@erlanger.org
To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: RE: FW: How?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:19:47 -0400

For sale

200lx  32mb  double speed by Times2 w/Manual $610
1ea 14400 4mb ThinFax modem
2ea HP F1011A AC/DC Adapters
1ea HP F1015 RS232 Cable
1ea neophrene belt case
Two NiMH Hicap batteries
An extra Backup battery
2mb SRAM PCMCIA memory card

Software w/ manuals $100
Act
Ace Link
Carousel  (super)
wwwlx
Magnify
Accis
Quick/LX

Manuals $ 20
  123  release 2
  123  release 2.4

Everything price (Hardware, Software and Manuals)=09$550

I would like to sell everything together and I'll pay lower fortyeight
shipping.
If I don't have any offers for the complete package within a reasonable
time I will break it up into categories and you pay shipping.
If I don't have any offers for the categories within a reasonable time I
will sell seperate items and you pay shipping.
The 200LX is in excellent shape and doesn't have any signs of hinge =
cracking.

Reply to:=09gbuta@bellsouth.net

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:53:24 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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My list of MUST HAVE palmtop software looks like this:

WWW/LX Plus with POST/LX to get all of my Internet Email.

PalEdit (PE) for all of my editing needs.  I compose all of my
messages with PE and edit every other text file with it also.

QUICK/LX

Software Carousel with the following sessions:

   - SysMgr
   - WWW/LX Plus and POST/LX
   - Office 3.0 running:
         - WP 5.1+
         - PL 5.1
         - DP 2.3 german version
         - DP 2.6

   - XTGOLD
   - LXTEL
   - PE
   - Collins dictionary
   - LXTCP
      - LXgFTP
      - LXTELNET
      - LXFTP

   - HDM with lots of utilities (Autoroute, homebanking, etc.)

To run all this, it requires Mack Baggett's upgrade: speed, tremm and
rdt2t drivers.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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From: "Peniel Romanelli" <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
Hi gang-
My must-haves would include:
Communications:
WWW/LX
COMMO

I am a licensed user of {COMMO} way back to
my 286 days, however I could not get it to dial
out through either of my modems 14.4 X-jack
and a Motorolla 28.8.  Managed to get Datacom
to connect with the Motorolla.

Would you mind emailing your {COMMO} set
up file, so I can see what I was doing wrong.

It is a great program, compact and blindingly
functional.

Best regards.....Liam

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Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> I didn't realise the LX would enter lite sleep mode
> during execution of a program. I'll try it with the charger and see =
what
> happens

Only if that program makes calls to certain BIOS routines such
as to check the keyboard for a key.  But pure code in a program
that does not call any of the lite-sleep-inducing BIOS
routines will always work at full speed.

Suppose you have a program that is going to do a bunch of
calculations for a while and you program into there a check to
see if the user presses any key to signal he wants to abort
the calcs.  Well, depending on how you check for that
keypress, most C libraries make a call to the keyboard
checking BIOS routine.  Well, that particular BIOS routine
will activate lite sleep when it is called.

But if you don't have a keyboard check in your calcs or if you
check for a key in some way that does not use that BIOS
routine, then lite sleep will not be activated and the calcs
will run in full speed.

Basically, lite sleep is activated when the BIOS thinks that
the computer has some spare time to waste and that is usually
while it is waiting for the human to press keys.  So, if your
program continually checks the keyboard for activity, even if
only for an abort key, then the BIOS thinks you have a program
which is asking for human input and therefore it uses lite
sleep to save power.


Stan

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From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Subject:      Radio Shack Hi-Cap Nicads
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<<<<Has anyone tried these?  The 1200s I tried a while back were (to
put it
kindly) disappointing.  Rapid self-discharge, and actually less
useful
life in the LX than RS HiCap Nicads (850mAHr).>>>>

The new silvery blue RS HiCap nicads are 1000 mAH.  And I think the
last pack of them I got was 1100, but I can't find them at the
moment so I may be wrong.

I'm using NiMH in a number of devices but for the 200lx the nicads
last longer because they don't self discharge as much.  I have a
charger that discharges first so memory isn't an issue.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:05:11 -0500
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<<<<If your target is the palmtop, then you will have to re-write
your routines to not use whatever BIOS routines you are using
that are allowing lite sleep.  Usually this happens if you
are checking for a keypress.  This BIOS routine puts the
processor to sleep for a while after checking for a key and
not seeing one.>>>>

When I first started programming on the 95lx I wrote a program in
asm that read a file a character at a time, thinking that dos would
buffer it.  It didn't and it typically took several minutes to read
in a 5k file.  I finally realized it was the light sleep that was
making it so slow so I wrote a buffered input routine and the file
was read almost instantly.

I've always been curious about this since I know that dos will
buffer input in a 512 byte buffer on a full size PC.  512 bytes is
the smallest possible disk read.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:53:01 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@ftel.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 8 Apr 2000 to 9 Apr 2000 (#2000-128)


> Barry wrote:
> > After 20 years of trying to interest my father in computers he's
> > finally gotten interested (at age 82) in the internet.
>
> I bet he still did not want to, but _his_ father :-)
> pressured him!

When he first said he was interested I loaned him my laptop so he
could try it out before he spent money on a computer.  He quickly
found that he was interested but my stepmother couldn't see spending
the money on a computer.  It was just a waste to her.  So he
couldn't make up his mind to get one.  He used my laptop for several
months.

I finally had to buy him a computer to ransom my laptop.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:28:30 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: 200LX 32MB & accys

FYI: That's a good price. If anyone complains show them this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=259122563


>
>From: ButaGA@erlanger.org
>To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
>Subject: RE: FW: How?
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:19:47 -0400
>
>For sale
>
>200lx  32mb  double speed by Times2 w/Manual $610
>1ea 14400 4mb ThinFax modem
>2ea HP F1011A AC/DC Adapters
>1ea HP F1015 RS232 Cable
>1ea neophrene belt case
>Two NiMH Hicap batteries
>An extra Backup battery
>2mb SRAM PCMCIA memory card
>
>Software w/ manuals $100
>Act
>Ace Link
>Carousel  (super)
>wwwlx
>Magnify
>Accis
>Quick/LX
>
>Manuals $ 20
>  123  release 2
>  123  release 2.4
>
>Everything price (Hardware, Software and Manuals)      $550

snip

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:27:57 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

one of my favorite apps on the 200LX is LaTeX 2e. I use it regulary.
If someone's interested, have a look at daniel.hplx.net and search for
LXTeX.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:35:06 -0400
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Subject:      HP200LX seen in store window in NYC

Hi,

If anyone is interested in buting a 2MB hp100lx in NYC I've seen one. It's a
store that's right next to the Ed Sullivan Theater (Where Dave Letterman
tapes) at around 54th and 8th ave. It's an electronics store that's going
out of business. He had a 1MB 95LX ($249) ;P, a 2MB 100LX($249) and some
Nino 300's ($179). The guy came out with a "I give you good price my, my
friend." but I wasn't all that interested in owning a 100lx. I figure you
should be able to talk him down to $200 on the 100lx.  I know that the 95 is
a ridiculous price but he probably doesn't know what he has.

BTW: Caveat Emptor! These NYC electronics stores are notorious for rip-offs.
Understand that these guys don't care if they sell you a defective unit so
check it out before you plunk down da money.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:30:51 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> That is about the only DOS program that will sell well on Ebay.  I want
> to sell some of my
> old stuff, but $1 is too little to part with my stuff.  :-(

Posting a for sale message here is free and might find you a buyer who still
uses DOS.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:39:55 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Hi all,
>
> I have repeatedly hit menu Q, at the main menu, to attempt to
> exit from system manager, and somehow end up starting up
> Quicken.  The problem is I am not currently using Quicken, so it

I've used Buddy to redefine the Quicken Key to run dos.  I have also
hacked or patched appmgr.dat and removed the & from in front of certain
of the internal apps and thereby removed the hotkey component for that
application rather than removing the application totally.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:46:59 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES>
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Dear LXers,

I am sorry to have alerted you as it turns out -
unnecessarily. I had erroneously defined a macro for the
SHIFT+DOWN key. When I changed that key in pe.mac to something
else, and reloaded PE without this file, everything was back
to normal. Thanks to everybody who was so gentle to advise on
this, due to those messages I found the cause of the problem.

Thanks again and regards
Winfried
>
>> I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
>> select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
>> copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
>> This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?
>

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:25:32 +0100
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              David Cripps <david@CRIPPS.COM>
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From:         David Cripps <david@CRIPPS.COM>
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Dear All

I know there has been a lot of bandwidth recently about using the HP's IR
to connect to mobile phones, but at the time my old Nokia was not IRDA and
I binned the mails - Doh! Now I've just upgraded to the latest Nokia 7710
WAP phone and I need some help.

So sorry for repeating an old question. But how do I go about setting GP
and WWW/LX to use IRDA?


I've used Andreas' little IR.EXE in server mode and can issue AT and get
back OK from the phone! so I know that side of it is working.


Many thanks in advance

Dave

Now if anybody comes across a WAP browser for DOS.......... :-)

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:08:04 +0600
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Subject:      Re: Using IRDA between Going Postal/WWWLX and a Nokia 7110
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I think you should be able to just put
-1 for the port in www/lx and use the irda.  It is already built in to
the www/lx software.

Others, i dont know about. you can use hv for browsing as well through
the irda.

Tim



>I binned the mails - Doh! Now I've just upgraded to the latest Nokia 7710

>WAP phone and I need some help.
>
>So sorry for repeating an old question. But how do I go about setting
GP
>and WWW/LX to use IRDA?
>
>
>I've used Andreas' little IR.EXE in server mode and can issue AT and get

>back OK from the phone! so I know that side of it is working.
>
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Dave
Regards,
Tim
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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:04:07 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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DigiKey is at 1-800-344-4539.  Order part number P015-ND, $3.25 apiece.
(See page 516 of their catalog, I downloaded that huge PDF on 3/11 so I
think the page number's right <G>)  They do have a $5 handling fee if
you order under $25 worth of stuff, though, does add up.  OTOH, they do
pay *all* shipping and handling past that so if you get $25+ worth of
stuff, you're set.

I order from them fairly often (misc. electronics parts) so know them
fairly well - a little tiny bit higher prices than some places like
Mouser, but, FAST and almost always have the goodies in stock - and the
shipping being paid offsets the raised price.  Stuff that's in stock and
shipped fast, is GOOD IMO <G>

  Mark

Robert Hocking wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need a source to purchase some hi-capacity Ni-MH batteries for
> my LX.  I used the green Shier System 1300 mAhNi-MH's for a
> while, then switched to Radio Shack's 1200mAh about a year ago.
> I think I have cooked my latest set well enough now, and am
> ready to buy a new pair.  I charge them at high current for the
> maximum time, each time my LX is plugged in (yes I know Avi, its
> not the optimum usage of ABC/LX).
>
> I am not being very nice to my batteries, but I don't care, I
> want them fully charged at all times, and the minor cost for a
> pair of batteries, is a minor cost.  I also leave one of my ST
> 40 meg flash cards in my slot at all times, and my batteries
> don't last very long lately.  The last time I pounded on the
> palmtop hard, I only got about six hours before I had to put my
> back up alkalines in.
>
> There has been lots of chatter lately in regards to the 1500 &
> 1600 mA Ni-MH's, but I don't know where to order them from.  I
> would prefer to walk in a store to purchase them, rather than
> buying from the web, but if I have to get them from the web, to
> get the newer hi-cap Ni-MH's, then I would buy from the web.  I
> would at least like a company that I can call and talk to a live
> person, even if it is at my expense.
>
> I did go to the Digikey web site, but could not find what I was
> looking for.  Any suggestions on brands or performance?  I
> thought I heard mention on Panasonic making some.  Thanks.
>
> Robert Hocking
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:06:08 -0700
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Subject:      Re: What is a clamshell compact flash
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Could the clamshell be that USB CF 'dock' thing that I've seen?  (If so
it's a USB deal that will let you read/write your CF through a USB
port.)  Lots of local companies are selling CF with that USB unit
recently.

  Mark

hobchi wrote:
> klamshell CF fits into a doo hicky that reeds
> the CF.  In essence a flash disk drive.
>
> =====
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>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:16:49 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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David Lawrence wrote:
> I am looking for an HP200LX in or near to Auckland

David, if you find one over here in the US on eBay and the seller
prefers to ship US only, no problem, have them ship it to me and I'll
ship it to you at cost ($9 USD for a large Global Priority Mail
envelope, though for a whole machine we might want to go with a box as
it's SAFER! - $20 to $25 at a guess.) - I could weigh my machine in a
box pretty easily, to give you exact shipping costs.

Can get the money here via Credit Card through a guy I help in
Australia, or perhaps someone else, so if you're in a hurry it doesn't
have to be slow snailmail.  Whatever works, I'm pretty flexible and go
to the post office about daily.

Global Priority Mail's about a week from here to anywhere, usually,
unless customs is slow (which happens.)

Myself, I'm looking for used 200LX's to upgrade and sell, and/or a few
1000cx's (want to keep one and a friend's bugging me weekly for
another!), it's been hard to find used units.

  Mark

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:30:07 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Texteditor with ascii formatting
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QEdit is what I use - an older version of what's now called the "Semware
editor".  Pretty configurable, macro capability, scripting, etc.
http://www.semware.com/ has test drives and shareware versions
available, draws boxes, can sort lines by a column (i.e. sort lines
27-99 of the file by what's in columns 33 through 45, which is GOOD for
us programmers), it word wraps, mine's set so F6 deletes the rest of the
line but I'm pretty sure you could vi-ify the key assignments (I started
off with EdWin and moved to QEdit a long time ago, sorta stuck with old
habits.)  Another thing to look at is the Boxer Editor,
http://www.boxersoftware.com/ is where they are at;  I know some folks
like it, don't remember it's features (both of these are SMALL and
should work on the 200LX IIRC, though.)

Hmmm:  Only problem I see is that with underlining being required,
you're more talking a "Word Processing" program, than a "Text Editor",
so I'm not sure these will do on THAT - If you want more options, bug me
off-list and I'll go dig through my bookmarks...  (mail to the list gets
stuffed into a folder, I don't always read it instantly.)

  Mark

G|nther Eisele wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm searching for a text editor (for the 200lx) which has some "ascii
> formatting functions" like
>
> - underlining (with ----- or =====)
> - list functions (to create lists like this with just the first line
>   beginning in the first column, following lines indented)
> - table functions (like |-----|)
>                         |     |
>                         |-----|
> - align paragraph (right/center)
>
> Nice to have would be an ascii table and some of the 'cool' editing
> functions of pe (or vi) like ctrl+del to delete the rest of the line.
>
> Thanx for your hints!
>
> Bye
> G|nther
>
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Date:         Thu, 13 Apr 2000 03:34:29 +0200
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              fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM
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From:         Fernando Ruiz <fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM>
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Hi folks!:

first of all I would like to grateful all your help
to finally set up PPP. In all your feedback I can
look for tips and items to set it up but finally
the problema that I had was that the "epppd" doesn't
work if I have System Manager up&running, then if
you remenber the error was:
______________________________________

PPP link is down, driver not installed
______________________________________

Shutdown the System Manager "epppd" works fine
and then all LXTCP utilities.

Can you run "epppd" if you have System Manager up&running?
I try to setup MaxDos but I've had the same symptoms.

Very thanks to all and more specially to Theodore W. Heise
for all your feedback and help.

Fernando Ruiz

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:26:30 -0400
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On 30 Mar 2000, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Stefan,
>
> > I just tried it once and it worked. Cannot comment any further.
> > But since I upgraded to Win95, I have problems using PALRUN
> > with PE. Maybe I have to look again at INT5F and PALMPC.
>
> I wonder why, I use it too on WIN95 and WIN98 and it is working
> flawless.

I have had many problems running PALRUN, WWW/LX, POST/LX and PE
on my OB800CT running Win95b. Something in this combination
completely screws up the BIOS setting of the OB, so I have
stopped using this except on my 200LX.

Vic

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From:         Victor Roberts <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On 29 Mar 2000 13:44:25 -0800, Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> wrote:

> Well, I signed up with
> http://www.freewwweb.com
> I was impressed that I could use my usual browser setup. I just have to
> make there site
> http://freewwweb.snap.com/
>
> my home page & probably keep java and cookies enabled.

I also use freewwweb when I travel. You have correctly stated
their terms for use: make their site your browser's homepage.
However, I am able to use freewwweb when I use only Outlook
for mail on my notebook and my browser is not even open, and I
have also used freewwweb for e-mail with WWW/LX on my palmtop.
When I run WWW/LX I don't ever open HV, I have not set
freewwweb.snap.com as HV's homepage and HV  doesn't support
cookies (as far as I know) or Java. In spite of this, I have
never been knocked off their system.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:49:39 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: New versions and new maintainer for PNR and LXTCP

Rod Whitby writes:
> For various business, personal, and PDA-platform reasons, I am unable to
> continue HP200LX development.  Note that I still read HPLX-L (on my
> HP200LX, of course), and my HP200LX still continues to be my main source
> of connectivity when I am travelling on business.

Rod,

I would also like to add my thanks for all your efforts for the HP200LX
community. Your software is part of what makes the HP200LX an invaluable
tool for me. It has also been a pleasure working with you in ironing out some
of the bugs in the user of your software, and I only wish that some companies
that charged $$$$ for tech support offered support as thoroughly, promptly
and cheerfully as I have had from you. Have fun playing with your Palm Pilot
and I still hope to hear from you occaisionally on this list.

From a friend whom you have never met!

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Subject:      Re: DOS Baseball Logging Software

Jeff writes:
> Does anyone know of any DOS software that would allow me to log my kids'
> baseball/softball games via the LX? I'm pretty sure that there is some
> type of Palm software that does this but it would be nice to be able to do
> it on the LX and then come home and transfer the info to the desktop for
> printing, etc..

Lotus 123

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Kelley, Timothy P wrote:

> I was trying it in a 100lx that i had, and it wouldnt work, so i put
> it in a 200lx and it came right up. I noticed it flashed briefly
> something like directory server or somthing like that in the 100 but
> 200 is ok. Could it have something to do with llras?

The 100LX had a problem with lots of flash cards.  There was an ACECARD3
driver that made them work, and I think Mack Baggette of Times2 Tech
(www.times2tech.com) has one that works even better ... but maybe not
finished yet.  Mack?

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I like the breakdown by frequency of usage.
Every day:
Phone book
Appointments
Note taker
Info Select (#1 most-used program for me)
Times2Tech speed/EMM programs
Software Carousel
Physician's Medical Reference (Lexicomp drug database with 5-Minute
Clinical Consult; no longer made, unfortunately)
HP Calc
Memo
Buddy (couldn't get by without it now)
Helv font (don't recall where I got it)
MaxFind (VERY flexible shareware DOS program to search for strings in a
text file)

Nearly every day:
Curtis Cameron's games, especially Freecell, Yahtzee, and Tetris.  I play
Snake quite a bit these days, too.
Pocket Quicken
Lotus 123
Charge-It! or Trickle

Use weekly:
HP Alarm Clock
Database (built-in)
Windows 3.0 with Word, less frequently with Excel
TN Calc (use less frequently now that I have gotten more comfortable with
the HP Calc built in)
List

Use rarely, but I really appreciate having them available when I need/want
them:
World Time
PAL Edit
A slew of old DOS games
cc:Mail with palmtop.com

My favorite little utilities:
PNS200 (REALLY useful for me)
Task List
123 GUI
MML (More Menu Launcher)
Key200

I am finding that the longer I have my LX, the greater the differential
becomes between the most-used and least-used programs.  Also, I find that
I tend to use the built-in programs more than others, even when the
built-in program is relatively weak (e.g., Memo instead of PAL Edit).
This is mainly due to laziness (press a single button, no need to set up),
low memory usage (Buddy and Software Carousel take a big chunk of memory
away), ability to run multiple programs in the same System Manager
session, and stability.  Yes, I know I can run multiple DOS programs with
SC, but switching between sessions is still slower than between, say,
Phone Book and Pocket Quicken.

J. P. Grenert
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Oh, yes, I do every-other-day backups using LXBACKUP, which has saved my
sorry butt a number of times.  A very nice program!

J. P. Grenert
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:

> I am a licensed user of {COMMO} way back to my 286 days, however I
> could not get it to dial out through either of my modems 14.4 X-jack
> and a Motorolla 28.8.  Managed to get Datacom to connect with the
> Motorolla. Would you mind emailing your {COMMO} set up file, so I can
> see what I was doing wrong.

I've never had any problems getting Commo to work on the palmtop.  If
you're still having problems, e-mail me privately.  I love this little
program...

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"Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET> wrote:

> I regret my fault, you are of course right with the polarity
> Plus outside
> Minus inside would have been correct.
> But as far I know no harm happens to the HP when the polarity is wrong

Don't think that way.  HP designed the 100/200LX to run with
the external power being 12 volts DC and specified a certain
polarity for the plug.  You should not be so bold as to assume
that HP did that just for fun.  Just because HP was
conservative in their design and built in reverse polarity
protection, doesn't mean that was the way it was intended to
operate.  On lesser machines, reverse polarity would burn up
the unit.  Don't put reverse polarity into the HP palmtop.


Stan

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To: "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>

The 12 volt at 1000 ma from Radio Shack could be fine if it is
DC (not AC), the polarity on the plug is correct (as per the
diagram on the bottom of the 200LX) and the plug is the
correct size.


Stan

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Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> I finally realized it was the light sleep that was
> making it so slow so I wrote a buffered input routine and the file
> was read almost instantly.
>
> I've always been curious about this since I know that dos will
> buffer input in a 512 byte buffer on a full size PC.  512 bytes is
> the smallest possible disk read

What you saw happening probably had nothing to do with the
buffering that DOS does.  You are basically correct that 512
bytes is a disk sector and the smallest unit of data from a
disk transfer.

When you were getting the data from the file one byte at a
time, you were calling a specific DOS routine which then
accessed certain BIOS support routines.  Somewhere in that
chain of routines, one of them was the kind of BIOS routine
that will activate lite sleep.  Then when you re-write you
input routine to buffer itself, you called different DOS
routines to get the data which, in turn, called different BIOS
routines that did not have the effect of activating lite
sleep.

The BIOS tries to guess when the program that is running is
getting input from the human.  If it thinks it is getting
human input, then lite sleep is activated.  Sometimes, the
BIOS guesses wrong and does lite sleep when we don't want it
to.  I suspect that your repeated calls to the routine to get
a single character looked like input from the keyboard and so
the palmtop lite slept.  But when you got chunks of data
instead, the BIOS was not fooled and so didn't lite sleep.

These are just MHT (My Humble Theories) <grin>


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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Don't think that way.  HP designed the 100/200LX to run with the
> external power being 12 volts DC and specified a certain polarity for
> the plug.  You should not be so bold as to assume that HP did that
> just for fun.  Just because HP was conservative in their design and
> built in reverse polarity protection, doesn't mean that was the way it
> was intended to operate.  On lesser machines, reverse polarity would
> burn up the unit.  Don't put reverse polarity into the HP palmtop.

And, in fact, I've seen palmtops that couldn't handle it and had their
ability to handle external power at all completely destroyed by plugging
in a reverse-polarity plug.  That user was pretty unhappy, and had to run
on batteries alone until he could replace his motherboard.  Don't let it
happen to you ...

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Subject:      Re: PPPD (OK!)
Comments: To: fernando_ruiz2@hp.com

fernando_ruiz2@hp.com writes:
>
> Shutdown the System Manager "epppd" works fine
> and then all LXTCP utilities.
>
> Can you run "epppd" if you have System Manager up&running?
> I try to setup MaxDos but I've had the same symptoms.

This is a good point, and one I completely overlooked.  In fact, I do
use MaxDOS to run LXTCP without leaving the System Manager.  To set that
up I added a new application in the AppMgr (MORE key) with the path of:

  c:\utils\maxdos.com|

I don't think there was anything else to it.  Of course, you'll need
to substitute your path for the "c:\utils\" part!

Hope that helps.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:19:07 +0200
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Daniel,

that is exactly what happened. It is so dumb that I feel
rather uncomfortably.

Thanks for your advice
Winfried


>Hi Winfried,
>
>> Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@RETEMAIL.ES> wrote:
>>
>> > I am experiencing a strange phenomenon with PE. When I try to
>> > select some lines from a text via SHIFT+DOWN arrow for
>> > copying, the program deletes one entire screen (unlike MEMO).
>> > This makes PE almost unusable. What Do I do wrong ?
>
>Maybe you defined a macro that takes the shift-down and converts it
>into a shift-pagedown + delete? Maybe you defined this macro by
>accident somehow by recording it without knowing of that...
>
>Take a look into PE.CFG and deactivate all macros temporarily.
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
>Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de
>homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
>telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49
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<<<<<Does anyone know of any DOS software that would allow me to log
my kids'
baseball/softball games via the LX? I'm pretty sure that there is
some
type of Palm software that does this but it would be nice to be able
to do
it on the LX and then come home and transfer the info to the desktop
for
printing, etc..>>>>>

I'd use Lotus for this.  It's great for lists.  If you have either
Lotus or Excel on your desktop, it can easily import it and print
it.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:30:08 +0200
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Hi friends,

does anyone use my LXTeX (or another distribution of LaTeX 2e) on a
100LX?

My brother tried to use it on his 100LX/2MB machine, but it failed:
Some software if the LXTeX suite seemed to switch off the palmtop
occasionally.

I never had this problem with my 200LX/6MB/DS.

I would appreciate every comment on this topic.

TNX
daniel

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Hi friends,

does anyone know of a program that can be used as a dictionary? My idea
is that I store pairs of words (or even phrases) in a text file, either
comma seperated or blank or tab seperated, and use this program to
rread the file and search through it.

for example I have a file dict.txt containing

and,und
something,irgendwas
don't know,weiss nicht
finish,ende

and I start the program, search for 'irgendwas' and it shows me

irgendwas = something

I don't want to have a regular English-German dictionary (I have one
already), but i need a dictionary containing subject specific words for
my studying.

TNX
daniel

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Hi Winfried,

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:19:07 +0200, Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@retemail.es> wrote:

> that is exactly what happened. It is so dumb that I feel
> rather uncomfortably.

;-)
This happened also to me a few weeks ago.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:48:34 -0500
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Having retired I don't use my palmtop for anything serious except
that I use the phone book app for phone numbers and the database for
internet passwords.

The things I really need are:

Turbo C
Tasm
TSE jr.
Symdeb
Link and Tlink
make
mapsym
QuickBasic
and I think Forth is going to become important.  I'm learning it.

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Okay, here goes:

Battlog   (battery performance monitoring)
Charge-It   (smart charging for long-life batteries)
FF   (file find utility from an old Norton Utilities distribution)
HV   (I use it as a stand-alone .HTM file viewer)
Lha, Lhe, PKZip   (for all my archiving needs)
List   (the world's best DOS file viewer)
LXPic   (the absolute best image viewer on any palmtop)
LXStat   (complete control of palmtop options)
MacLink+   (because I own a couple of Macs, too)
PowerChess, Elite, Racter (just for fun)
QuickView   (palmtop screen-friendly file viewer)
Ted   (tiny editor that takes up only 3072 bytes)
TS   (text search utility from an old Norton Utilities distribution)
Word 5.5, Works 3.0, WordPerfect 5.1, Excel 2.1   (for compatibility with just
about any file)
X-Finder   (ties all of the above together)

I never use the built-in Filer or Application Manager now that I have X-Finder.
There are no Web or e-mail apps on this list because I access via a shell
account using the built-in DataComm (one of these days I may switch to Telix,
though). I also make heavy use of these other built-in apps:

ApptBook/ToDo
PhoneBook
Memo
NoteTaker
HPCalc

Bruce in Toronto

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<<<<<If anyone is interested in buting a 2MB hp100lx in NYC I've
seen one. It's a
store that's right next to the Ed Sullivan Theater (Where Dave
Letterman
tapes) at around 54th and 8th ave. It's an electronics store that's
going
out of business. He had a 1MB 95LX ($249) ;P, a 2MB 100LX($249) and
some
Nino 300's ($179). The guy came out with a "I give you good price
my, my
friend." but I wasn't all that interested in owning a 100lx. I
figure you
should be able to talk him down to $200 on the 100lx.  I know that
the 95 is
a ridiculous price but he probably doesn't know what he has.>>>>>

I don't think $200 for a 100lx is a good price.  They usually go for
around $150-$175 on newsgroups.  It would be a fair price for a
200lx.

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Quick/LX will do what you want, except automatically.  You
set up the filters, and went you type the words at the
cursor, it will suggest the second word.   Downside: it will
do so *everytime*, as long as quicklx is in memory (a small
annoyance.  All you do is ignore it if you don't need it).
Also, if the file gets too large, performance may suffer.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 13, 2000 2:30:10 PM GMT
Subject: Dictionary program wanted


Hi friends,

does anyone know of a program that can be used as a
dictionary? My idea
is that I store pairs of words (or even phrases) in a text
file, either
comma seperated or blank or tab seperated, and use this
program to
rread the file and search through it.

for example I have a file dict.txt containing

and,und
something,irgendwas
don't know,weiss nicht
finish,ende

and I start the program, search for 'irgendwas' and it shows
me

irgendwas = something

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>>>>Hmmm:  Only problem I see is that with underlining being
required,
you're more talking a "Word Processing" program, than a "Text
Editor",
so I'm not sure these will do on THAT - If you want more options,
bug me
off-list and I'll go dig through my bookmarks...  (mail to the list
gets
stuffed into a folder, I don't always read it instantly.)<<<<<

I haven't tried this but the 200lx is capable of MDA as well as CGA.
I think the command to get in MDA is MODE MONO.  When you're in MDA
you can have underlining.  It's still a text mode but underlining
was one of the attributes.  I think the possible attributes were
normal, underlined, reversed and blinking.  It's been a while so I
may have some of that wrong.

I doubt if Qedit includes underlining capability but if you check
their website they have a LOT of macros you can download and I'll be
surprised if they don't have one for underlining.  But if they
don't, they also have a newsgroup and if you post a question about
that you'll get some expert information from Sammy Mitchel, the
author.  They're also great about telephone support.

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Why not set this up as a two-field database (.gdb).

Search is then built-in (via F4) and you can sort and otherwise leverage gdbload
to populate it quickly with your text file.

Rather than "irgendwas = something", you can either show the two fields side by
side (column view), or have one show up as a datacard.

You can even add more language translations later.

- Longden





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Hi friends,

does anyone know of a program that can be used as a dictionary? My idea
is that I store pairs of words (or even phrases) in a text file, either
comma seperated or blank or tab seperated, and use this program to
rread the file and search through it.

for example I have a file dict.txt containing

and,und
something,irgendwas
don't know,weiss nicht
finish,ende

and I start the program, search for 'irgendwas' and it shows me

irgendwas = something

I don't want to have a regular English-German dictionary (I have one
already), but i need a dictionary containing subject specific words for
my studying.

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Hi All,

I updated my X-Finder beta test page. Now we have
 - X-Finder R.11 Beta 9
 - XBG Tools
 - Updated wallpaper collection by Sierra.

Go to http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/

Thanks,

Toshiki Sasabe
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Bruce,

The latest version of XFS (X-Finder Server) -- bundled with X-Finder
R.11 Beta 9 -- supports all the ports from COM1 to COM4. Please download
the latest one from http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/

Regards,

Toshiki Sasabe
toshis@mba.sphere.ne.jp
toshiki@j.email.ne.jp (preferred)

======== Original Message ================================
> From: Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:35:17 -0500
> Subject: X-Finder Server
>
> I've been running X-Finder, and have also been using ZIP v2.12
> to move files to/from my desktop (OS/2) system.  I have ZIP
> configured to use COM4 (0x2e8).
>
> After reading much touting here about XFS, I decided to take a
> look at it.  It appears that it only runs to COM1 or COM2 ... correct?
>
> Is there a version out that might support COM4?   Has anyone
> looked at it enough to see if it is patchable ?
>
> Would like to give it a shot to see if it is as good as everyone is saying....
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Dobrowski" <stanleyd@carroll.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@fbtc.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Slow ASIC I/O


> Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
>
> > I finally realized it was the light sleep that was
> > making it so slow so I wrote a buffered input routine and the
file
> > was read almost instantly.
> >
> > I've always been curious about this since I know that dos will
> > buffer input in a 512 byte buffer on a full size PC.  512 bytes
is
> > the smallest possible disk read
>
> What you saw happening probably had nothing to do with the
> buffering that DOS does.  You are basically correct that 512
> bytes is a disk sector and the smallest unit of data from a
> disk transfer.
>
> When you were getting the data from the file one byte at a
> time, you were calling a specific DOS routine which then
> accessed certain BIOS support routines.  Somewhere in that
> chain of routines, one of them was the kind of BIOS routine
> that will activate lite sleep.  Then when you re-write you
> input routine to buffer itself, you called different DOS
> routines to get the data which, in turn, called different BIOS
> routines that did not have the effect of activating lite
> sleep.
>
> The BIOS tries to guess when the program that is running is
> getting input from the human.  If it thinks it is getting
> human input, then lite sleep is activated.  Sometimes, the
> BIOS guesses wrong and does lite sleep when we don't want it
> to.  I suspect that your repeated calls to the routine to get
> a single character looked like input from the keyboard and so
> the palmtop lite slept.  But when you got chunks of data
> instead, the BIOS was not fooled and so didn't lite sleep.
>
> These are just MHT (My Humble Theories) <grin>

I suspect that you're correct.  I hadn't thought about it not going
into light sleep because of the different input routine.

Barry

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Okay - I put the display into mono with MODE MONO and now WP underlines with
the best of them. Now, how do you put it back into CGA?  Mode CGA and MODE
Color both do not seem to work?

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I think it's

MODE CO80      (that's CO as in COlor, 80 chars per line ..... there's also a
CO40 but you get BIG letters)

- Longden





Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG> on 04/13/2000 09:46:30 AM

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Subject:  CGA Mode




Okay - I put the display into mono with MODE MONO and now WP underlines with
the best of them. Now, how do you put it back into CGA?  Mode CGA and MODE
Color both do not seem to work?

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Try mode CO80



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
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Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 12:47 PM
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Subject: CGA Mode


Okay - I put the display into mono with MODE MONO and now WP underlines with
the best of them. Now, how do you put it back into CGA?  Mode CGA and MODE
Color both do not seem to work?

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David Cripps wrote:
> So sorry for repeating an old question. But how do I go about setting GP
> and WWW/LX to use IRDA?

I don't know about GP but the 7110 is reported to work with WWW/LX.
From the doc's :

____________________________________
4.8 USING THE INFRARED PORT AND IrDA

Starting with WWW.EXE version 2.1, WWW/LX supports the
built-in infrared port of the palmtop and can talk the IrDA
protocol. There is an increasing number of cellular phones
with built-in modems that can be used that way. WWW/LX has been tested
with the Nokia 8810 (firmware version 4.5 or higher required) and
Ericsson SH888. Other phones may work as well.

Here is how to set up an IrDA connnection:

 - Configure a setup entry in WWW.CFG so that "Port=-1"
 - Set Baud=38400 for a double speed or Baud=19200 for a
   regular palmtop
 - Place the phone so that the IR ports face each other
 - Set the phone to IR mode
 - Start WWW.EXE

Note that the infrared hardware of the palmtop does not seem to be 100%
compatible with those of the phones, so there are many transmission
errors. The IrDA protocol and some tricks we added to improve error
recovery should compensate for that in most cases, but we cannot
guarantee that it will always work.

BTW : This message was sent with WWW/LX and a NOKIA 8110.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
>>Robert Edson
>>Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 12:47 PM
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject: CGA Mode
>>
>>
>>Okay - I put the display into mono with MODE MONO and now WP
>>underlines with
>>the best of them. Now, how do you put it back into CGA?  Mode CGA and MODE
>>Color both do not seem to work?
>>
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>>

I have a small utility that will set the screen to any mode from the command
prompt perfect for batch file when starting an .exe file

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Does anyone know of a way to make TransFile Win200 talk to the palmtop at 115.2 kbaud?

I remember hacking the binary files (resource editing and so on), to try and make this happen, but never got it to work.

Perhaps there is another favorite file transfer program which works well over COM ports (between desktop and 200LX)?

Just wondering.

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To all - Thanks for the assist.  It has just been too long since I have done
the more low level DOS commands.


>  I have a small utility that will set the screen to any mode from the
command
>  prompt perfect for batch file when starting an .exe file

This utility would be perfect for my needs, I want to
switch in and out for WP5.1.  Is this utility available on SUPER?

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Seems to me I had it working once, but it ran like sludge, and proved to be
of no practical value. I frequently edit / compose TeX files on my 200, but
find it pointless to TeX them there...

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone use my LXTeX (or another distribution of LaTeX 2e) on a
> 100LX?
>
> My brother tried to use it on his 100LX/2MB machine, but it failed:
> Some software if the LXTeX suite seemed to switch off the palmtop
> occasionally.
>
> I never had this problem with my 200LX/6MB/DS.
>
> I would appreciate every comment on this topic.
>
> TNX
> daniel
>

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At 01:52 PM 4/13/00, F. Kaufman wrote:
>I've used Buddy to redefine the Quicken Key to run dos.

That's an excellent idea.  Did you do this with a macro, or some other way?

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>>-----Original Message-----
>>This utility would be perfect for my needs, I want to
>>switch in and out for WP5.1.  Is this utility available on SUPER?

to tell the truth I don't know if my utility is on super or not but if you
give me an email address I would send it to you

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>I've used Buddy to redefine the Quicken Key to run dos.

Never mind!  I re-read the Buddy help file and figured out how to use Blue-Key control to make the Quicken key do something useful (in my case launch my task manager).

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>
>   Mark
>
> > klamshell CF fits into a doo hicky that reeds
> > the CF.  In essence a flash disk drive.
> > Don't know if it is USB or not, but it is external
and since it fairly recent, it may be USB.

BTW: know wair I kan get a kradle for the LX or the PC110?
TIA
> > =====
> > >     o__       Back home on the range
> > >    _.>/)_    Pattaya was heaven on earth
> > >   (_) \(_)    Back to the kold grind
> >
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> >


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You can also use the built-in d:\bin\key200.com (during boot-up) to do the same.

I used that to re-program my Memo key to bring up Notetaker, which I use a lot
more.

d:\bin\key200.txt has some docs, and running key200 from the dos prompt puts up
a nice key name refererence to use.

This maps the Quicken key to run DOS:

Quic : Ctrl 123 ¬123 ¬Ctrl

You'll have to read the docs if you want to make sense out of it <g>.

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At 01:52 PM 4/13/00, F. Kaufman wrote:
>I've used Buddy to redefine the Quicken Key to run dos.

That's an excellent idea.  Did you do this with a macro, or some other way?

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I've seen desktop emulator environments discussed as side notes in several posts recently.  So, I thought I'd ask:

What do you think the best desktop-PC emulator programs/environments are for running palmtop-specific software on your desktop PC?

Secondly, do they work OK on NT?  I use NT everywhere, so if such an emulator has issues with NT, it won't work for me.

I know of PALRUN, and I believe there are others (but I'm not aware of them).

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I don't know if this is the same utility, but I'm using HPZOOM available on
SUPER that does that.

HPZOOM (8 KB) added 05/07/1997 (Screen)
Version 1.3 by David Sargeant
HPZOOM is a slick little program to automate HP screen zooms in batch files.
Copyrighted freeware

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>
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> >>This utility would be perfect for my needs, I want to
> >>switch in and out for WP5.1.  Is this utility available on SUPER?
>
> to tell the truth I don't know if my utility is on super or not but if you
> give me an email address I would send it to you
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Ran across this on Ebay. Says it supports HP-SIR!
eBay item 305457993 (Ends Apr-17-00 08:10:58 PDT) - IBM ISA
Bus Serial Infrared Adapter
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Hi Listers.
Does anyone out there use some kind of a shoulder holster for their LX?
If so, please can you give me some details.

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> Physician's Medical Reference (Lexicomp drug database with 5-Minute
> Clinical Consult; no longer made, unfortunately)

K2 consultants plans to put out the 2000 version of the Lexicomp drug database
if they have enough copies pre-ordered.  Contact them at k2@skyscape.com to let
them know if you are interested.

I have spoken with the author of 5MCC about putting out a HTML version for
palmtops.  We haven't gotten very far with it, but it might happen.  If it
does, the HTML version will probably be downloadable from his web site
www.5mcc.com so check there every so often.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Steve Carder wrote:

> I have spoken with the author of 5MCC about putting out a HTML version for
> palmtops.  We haven't gotten very far with it, but it might happen.  If it
> does, the HTML version will probably be downloadable from his web site
> www.5mcc.com so check there every so often.

This would be spiffy!

Jeff

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I am surprised no one mentions Zoom - I use it all the time.  It is a must
have, at least until we get backlighting.

Gary F. Blemaster
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202-687-5407 Georgetown office
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I like the breakdown by frequency of usage.
Every day:
Phone book
Appointments
Note taker
Info Select (#1 most-used program for me)
Times2Tech speed/EMM programs
Software Carousel
Physician's Medical Reference (Lexicomp drug database with 5-Minute
Clinical Consult; no longer made, unfortunately)
HP Calc
Memo
Buddy (couldn't get by without it now)
Helv font (don't recall where I got it)
MaxFind (VERY flexible shareware DOS program to search for strings in a
text file)

Nearly every day:
Curtis Cameron's games, especially Freecell, Yahtzee, and Tetris.  I play
Snake quite a bit these days, too.
Pocket Quicken
Lotus 123
Charge-It! or Trickle

Use weekly:
HP Alarm Clock
Database (built-in)
Windows 3.0 with Word, less frequently with Excel
TN Calc (use less frequently now that I have gotten more comfortable with
the HP Calc built in)
List

Use rarely, but I really appreciate having them available when I need/want
them:
World Time
PAL Edit
A slew of old DOS games
cc:Mail with palmtop.com

My favorite little utilities:
PNS200 (REALLY useful for me)
Task List
123 GUI
MML (More Menu Launcher)
Key200

I am finding that the longer I have my LX, the greater the differential
becomes between the most-used and least-used programs.  Also, I find that
I tend to use the built-in programs more than others, even when the
built-in program is relatively weak (e.g., Memo instead of PAL Edit).
This is mainly due to laziness (press a single button, no need to set up),
low memory usage (Buddy and Software Carousel take a big chunk of memory
away), ability to run multiple programs in the same System Manager
session, and stability.  Yes, I know I can run multiple DOS programs with
SC, but switching between sessions is still slower than between, say,
Phone Book and Pocket Quicken.

J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Of all that I use, these are the most essential:

InfoSelect
Xfinder
List

A backlight!!!!!     :-)     :-)      :-)
(when I get it).

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Hi.   I have discovered that Thinktank is not Y2k compliant.   It seems
to work fine,
but it forces the system date to 8/15/99, so I cannot deal with that.
I am currently playing with Kamas, which appears to be powerful and easy.
No Y2k problems so far.
Anyone had any luck contacting the author for registration/updates?

TIA

Domingo

P.S. I do wish someone would see the value in a lx version of an
outliner.

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Thank's I saw the announcement, but I did not see how to search it on the
web.
Is it something like glimpse?  I browsed the issues, but did not see a
search
engine.   By the way, does this generous move imply the beginning of the
end
for the palmtop paper?

Domingo

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:45:35 -0500 "Ed Keefe" <emkeefe@uswest.net>
writes:
> Domingo,
>
> You're not finished downloading yet. Visit the Palmtop Archives at
> www.palmtoppaper.com All issues of PTP from 1991-1999. (50+ Mbytes)
> Searchable on the
> Web.
>
> .ed.ÝPTP¨
>
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My apologies if I missed something.   What does the mode thing do for
WP5.1
that  SET WP=/MONO doesnt do?  Just curious.

Domingo

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:59:40 -0400 Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
writes:
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>This utility would be perfect for my needs, I want to
> >>switch in and out for WP5.1.  Is this utility available on SUPER?
>
> to tell the truth I don't know if my utility is on super or not but
> if you
> give me an email address I would send it to you
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I am on my second fanny by FOCAL, a camera company.  Got it at Kmart.  It
fits the
palmtop nicely.  Just one compartment with plenty of space for a few more
things.  I tried
something with more compartments once, but did not like the bulkyness.
I don't like the geeky look that it gives me to always carry that around,
but I know from
experience that a palmtop in the pocket (any pocket) is a palmtop on the
ground!

Domingo

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:40:13 +1200 Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
writes:
> Hi Listers.
> Does anyone out there use some kind of a shoulder holster for their
> LX?
> If so, please can you give me some details.
>
> Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:37:23 -0700 bmeyer@union-tel.com (Robert K. Meyer)
writes:
> Vern Beurg's "List" is probably a good program to use. It is at
>
> http://www.buerg.com/


Thanks for all the suggestions.  I do use list and pal edit, but I have
found that the fastest
search program for DOS is a program called minitrue.   The thing I miss
is a program
that will give a list of hits (like glimpse) so that I can choose where
to go.  The DOS
programs force me to look at each hit individually, though they are
faster than Windows
explorer search.  Currently I am thinking of using explorer search to
find the hits, then use
a DOS program to find the individual hit.   Slow, but responses from the
list seem slower
still.  :-)

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:12:21 -0400 "Gary F. Blemaster"
<gblemaster@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
> I am surprised no one mentions Zoom - I use it all the time.  It is a
> must have, at least until we get backlighting.


I am surprised no one mentioned Agenda.   i don't use it, but I was sure
some people swear by it.   If I could easily convert my Infoselect files
for use by Agenda, I might give it another try.
Also, the last time we went through this, no one mentioned Flexpad
(I don't use it either, just curious about the alternatives to what I
use).

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:47:16 -0400 D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> writes:
> I am on my second fanny by FOCAL, a camera company.  Got it at Kmart.

Oops, I meant to say my second fanny *pack*.
Sorry about that.  8-p


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Domingo wrote:
>I am on my second fanny by FOCAL, a camera company.  Got it at Kmart.  It
>fits the
>palmtop nicely.  Just one compartment with plenty of space for a few more
>things.  I tried
>something with more compartments once, but did not like the bulkyness.
>I don't like the geeky look that it gives me to always carry that around,
>but I know from
>experience that a palmtop in the pocket (any pocket) is a palmtop on the
>ground!

This sounds more like something that goes on one's belt, rather than a
shoulder holster, like what the cops use for their guns

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> Can you run "epppd" if you have System Manager up&running?
> I try to setup MaxDos but I've had the same symptoms.

I don't use the product but sysmgr can sometimes poll the serial port
and interfere with serial communications.  There may be some tsr's that
can stop that.  Or you may be running low on room.  Terminating sysmgr
may be the best option.

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In order of importance:
- All the built-in Apps
  + gotta have a PIM, powerful Calculator and LOTUS 123
- AWK (actually, Thompson AWK, which provides all the
  functionality of Perl in a much smaller package)
  + what fun is it if you can't write code on it?
- A vi editor (I have 4 or 5)
- CheckFree
  + pays all my bills and tracks all my other checks
- WWW/LX with POST & HV
  + with this and CheckFree, I don't need a desktop PC!
- A UNIX-like shell

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hello Stan, David and the list,

and how can I know if my HP200 LX tolerates a fault in polarity?
As I mentioned before, I use my switcher power supply for more than one
unit and I might be wrong with the polarity one day by accident.

:~o
Werner

On 14 Apr 2000, at 5:10, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> > was intended to operate.  On lesser machines, reverse polarity would
> > burn up the unit.  Don't put reverse polarity into the HP palmtop.
>
> And, in fact, I've seen palmtops that couldn't handle it and had their
> ability to handle external power at all completely destroyed by plugging
> in a reverse-polarity plug.  That user was pretty unhappy, and had to
> run on batteries alone until he could replace his motherboard.  Don't
> let it happen to you ...
>



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If I understand you right, try to start WP with the option /mono.

-goe-


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From: "Robert Edson" <redson@ERIM.ORG>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 6:46 PM
Subject: CGA Mode


> Okay - I put the display into mono with MODE MONO and now WP underlines
with
> the best of them. Now, how do you put it back into CGA?  Mode CGA and MODE
> Color both do not seem to work?

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Isn't this problem covered by nofiddle.com (included in WWW/LX and PE)?

-goe-


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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: PPPD (OK!)


> > Can you run "epppd" if you have System Manager up&running?
> > I try to setup MaxDos but I've had the same symptoms.
>
> I don't use the product but sysmgr can sometimes poll the serial port
> and interfere with serial communications.  There may be some tsr's that
> can stop that.  Or you may be running low on room.  Terminating sysmgr
> may be the best option.
>
> Good luck.
>
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For all, that use the Wp 5.1 on the hp 200lx.
This is the electronically version of the book for free:

 http://www.gmccomb.com/wpdos/

With regards,
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Comments: cc: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM, kelly@wt.net

Many thanks for the dvice on using IrDA with WWW/LX, on any other list I would have been flammed with a heap of "RTFM"! So thanks to the list as a whole as well!

Now Steve Lawson - Going Postal and IrDA........? :-)

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D Dv wrote:
> I am surprised no one mentioned Agenda.   i don't use it, but I was sure
> some people swear by it.   If I could easily convert my Infoselect files
> for use by Agenda, I might give it another try.
> Also, the last time we went through this, no one mentioned Flexpad
> (I don't use it either, just curious about the alternatives to what I
> use).

I was on Agenda but switched to PIM/PE from A. Garzotto. Less memory
req and much faster. On top it nicely integrates with acCIS and WWW/LX
so that it is easy to cycle between posting and PIM.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Vic,

Did you run this combination on your OB530?  If so, how did
it do?     =Bob=


> I have had many problems running PALRUN, WWW/LX, POST/LX and PE
> on my OB800CT running Win95b. Something in this combination
> completely screws up the BIOS setting of the OB, so I have
> stopped using this except on my 200LX.

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Has anyone seen the clip-on light/magnifier that's
available for GameBoy these days?  Something along
those lines would be perfect for my 200lx, at least
until backlighting is perfected..  Also, are there any
little rubber plugs available to keep dirt/dust out of
the ext. power & port conn. holes?

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Date:         Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:59:15 +0100
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Anyone know anything about the news server? (news.hplx.net). Is it down?
Having problems connecting at the moment..

MarkJ

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Network Support Consultant
Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Hi all,

I see people using their 200LX for network related configuring and
troubleshooting now and again. I always use existing pcs on the lan or
equipment-specific sw but:

What would the 200LX network road warrior use/need?

For configuring stuff with RS-232 ports I understand it's easy with the HP
cable-and-adapters kit. I just have to find which drawer they are in... :-)

For boxes allowed to telnet in one can use a nic and a tcp/ip stack. I
suppose the packages made by Rod Whitby are a good one to start on? I have
dl his stuff to try later this Easter.

What would one use for packet analysis? Mark Johnson's post triggered my
interest in this with his comment a few days ago... Does one do any amount
of packet analysis in real life? When?

Could the www/lx package be used constructively for these things? There is a
telnet/lx, but will a utility from R. Whitby's package work using the www/lx
protocol stack?

Just started my MCSE and find tcp/ip very interesting! :-) Hopefully MS
won't fold halfway through the course... :-(

br

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Unless I have it wrong, Mode Mono allows WP underlines to actually appear as
underlines, while running WP /mono with the display still set as Color, does
not.

>My apologies if I missed something.   What does the mode thing do for
>WP5.1
>that  SET WP=/MONO doesnt do?  Just curious.

>Domingo

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> Anyone know anything about the news server? (news.hplx.net). Is it
> down? Having problems connecting at the moment..

Yes.  The whole machine was down; I had it down all night because one of
my daughters decided to put a glass of orange juice into the (open and
unconvered) case.  Grrrr... thank goodness the hard drive wasn't ruined,
but I did have to replace the motherboard, CPU, memory, 3.5" floppy, and
CD-ROM drive.

I'm still looking for a laptop that could run hplx.net and keep it up nice
and high out of the kids' reach... <g>

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
> Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> > I finally realized it was the light sleep that was
> > making it so slow so I wrote a buffered input routine and the file
> > was read almost instantly.
> >
> > I've always been curious about this since I know that dos will
> > buffer input in a 512 byte buffer on a full size PC.  512 bytes is
> > the smallest possible disk read

> What you saw happening probably had nothing to do with the
> buffering that DOS does.  You are basically correct that 512
> bytes is a disk sector and the smallest unit of data from a
> disk transfer.
Ýsnip¨
> I suspect that your repeated calls to the routine to get
> a single character looked like input from the keyboard and so
> the palmtop lite slept.  But when you got chunks of data
> instead, the BIOS was not fooled and so didn't lite sleep.

No, I rewrote an assembly program of mine to buffer 512
bytes and wrote a routine to return a byte at a time, as
opposed to reading a disk file a byte at a time.  Even
on a RAM drive on a desktop machine the new routine was
markedly faster.  Reading a byte at a time is just slow.

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> Yes.  The whole machine was down; I had it down all night because one of
> my daughters decided to put a glass of orange juice into the (open and
> unconvered) case.  Grrrr... thank goodness the hard drive wasn't ruined,
> but I did have to replace the motherboard, CPU, memory, 3.5" floppy, and
> CD-ROM drive.

A budding little techie scientist!  "Hmm, what would orange juice do to
this device?  Let's see for ourself!" She will make an excellent quality
control person!"  (gd&r)

And sorry for the damage.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:26:37 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:24:44 -0500 (EST)

19h56m12s ago ...
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Brent Geske wrote:

> Perhaps there is another favorite file transfer program which works =
well
> over COM ports (between desktop and 200LX)?

Well, being an X-Finder fanatic, I'd suggest giving it a try.  Of
course it's MUCH more than a file xfer program.  In conjunction with a
small server prog on the desktop/laptop, it provides very fast
transfers and more.  Split-screen file manager on the palmtop, plus
macros for full or partial backup & restore.  Also "remote accelerator"
(runs programs on the big machine).  Version 10 is on SUPER - you'll
also need XFS (the server).  As Toshiki mentioned here, Version 11 is in
beta, and now includes an improved server.


HTH

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>  >  I have a small utility that will set the screen to any mode from the
command
>  >  prompt perfect for batch file when starting an .exe file
>
>  This utility would be perfect for my needs, I want to
>  switch in and out for WP5.1.  Is this utility available on SUPER?
>
FWIW, I use LXSTAT (found on SUPER) for starting WP 5.1 in mono -- among a
variety of other uses.

Here's my WP.BAT:

@echo off
a:\util\lxstat M M
cd a:\wp51
wp

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Funny ... as long as it doesn't happen to me.  Glad you have a sense of humor
David.

Just out of curiosity, what's the minimum laptop you'd be looking at for a
server?  Maybe we can chip in?

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 04/14/2000 07:09:12 AM

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:

> Anyone know anything about the news server? (news.hplx.net). Is it
> down? Having problems connecting at the moment..

Yes.  The whole machine was down; I had it down all night because one of
my daughters decided to put a glass of orange juice into the (open and
unconvered) case.  Grrrr... thank goodness the hard drive wasn't ruined,
but I did have to replace the motherboard, CPU, memory, 3.5" floppy, and
CD-ROM drive.

I'm still looking for a laptop that could run hplx.net and keep it up nice
and high out of the kids' reach... <g>

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:

> Funny ... as long as it doesn't happen to me.  Glad you have a sense
> of humor David. Just out of curiosity, what's the minimum laptop you'd
> be looking at for a server?  Maybe we can chip in?

I don't really need much of a laptop, but it has to have at least 4GB of
space and 64MB of RAM to perform well.  I could probably get something for
around $1000, maybe $1200.  I've been thinking about adding a larger drive
to this IBM ThinkPad 365ED I may be able to get for a couple hundred
dollars from a client who needs a more powerful laptop, but it maxes out
at 24MB of RAM, and that would greatly slow hplx.net down.

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The Omnibook mailing list recently had a deal with MCCS (Motor City Computer
Services) in Detroit to let its members buy used 800CT computers at a discount.
My first one was a disaster, but it was replaced and the new one runs fine.

Don't know if these are still available, or if they're suitable for use as
servers, but they're 166mhz MMZ Pentiums, most with 48mb RAM and 2.1G drives,
and included external CD drive, floppy and a docking station, all for $500.
Supplies had mostly dwindled a few weeks ago, but the rep said they get
additional stock occasionally.

Father Al can give you details also.  Docked configuration may not be portable
enough to kid-proof tho.

I upgraded mine to the max of 80mb RAM and a 6.4G drive afterwards for about
$300 more.  Total for me was $800, but I know you can get a good off the shelf
new machine for not much more.  My daughter recently bought a new HP 3210(?)
Pavillion notebook with 32mb/4G for about $1000.

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 04/14/2000 07:48:41 AM

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:

> Funny ... as long as it doesn't happen to me.  Glad you have a sense
> of humor David. Just out of curiosity, what's the minimum laptop you'd
> be looking at for a server?  Maybe we can chip in?

I don't really need much of a laptop, but it has to have at least 4GB of
space and 64MB of RAM to perform well.  I could probably get something for
around $1000, maybe $1200.  I've been thinking about adding a larger drive
to this IBM ThinkPad 365ED I may be able to get for a couple hundred
dollars from a client who needs a more powerful laptop, but it maxes out
at 24MB of RAM, and that would greatly slow hplx.net down.

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I would be interested in one of them.

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New products in original packaging.

8 pcs left in stock

HP P/N  My P/N   Description                  Price

F1011A  974202   AC/DC ADAPTER FOR THE 200LX  36.00

Shipping for up to 2 pcs in USA $ 3.20

Credit Card, Money Order or Check


Thanks,

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My Opus 63 Pocket Liberator shoulder holster is great, but the company is
gone.  Maybe you can find an old one that's going unused (mine is not for
sale).  This model is made of heavy black nylon and leather and hangs from
flexible velcro straps.  There is an elastic strap fastened with a snap to
hold the bottom down to your belt (or attach a hip holster).

Another possibility is to get the gun holster makers to recommend a pouch
that may fit the LX.  Try www.holster.com and see what a quality shoulder
holster rig looks like and costs.

Alan

>From: Roger Whitmarsh Ýmailto:lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM¨
>Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:40 PM
>...
>Does anyone out there use some kind of a shoulder holster for their LX?
>If so, please can you give me some details.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, David Ness wrote:

> Seems to me I had it working once, but it ran like sludge, and proved
> to be of no practical value.

But hey, don't hold back ... tell us what you REALLY think.  <g>  I used
LXTeX for a few days, and never had the "shutoff" problem Daniel
describes, but it WAS pretty slow.

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My son, who was about 3 or 4 at the time, spilled almost 2 quarts of orange
juice down a tv\vcr combo unit I have. All the buttons got sticky, etc. the
juice went almost completely in the vent slots in the top of the unit.

I took the case off the back, and ran ithe whole thing through the dish
washer - with no soap. I let it dry for about a week and I still use it to
this day on long car trips.

This is not an endorsement of this method, I just had nothing to lose.



> > Yes.  The whole machine was down; I had it down all night because one of
> > my daughters decided to put a glass of orange juice into the (open and
> > unconvered) case.  Grrrr... thank goodness the hard drive wasn't ruined,
> > but I did have to replace the motherboard, CPU, memory, 3.5" floppy, and
> > CD-ROM drive.
>
>A budding little techie scientist!  "Hmm, what would orange juice do to
>this device?  Let's see for ourself!" She will make an excellent quality
>control person!"  (gd&r)
>
>And sorry for the damage.

Jim

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there is a text editor who can help me to wrote math eqution on my Hp 100lx
?
thanks in advance

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:41:34 +1200 Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
writes:
> Domingo wrote:
> >I am on my second fanny by FOCAL, a camera company.  Got it at  Kmart.

>
> This sounds more like something that goes on one's belt, rather than
> a shoulder holster, like what the cops use for their guns

I see, you are talking about something that is tied around one's chest
and
shoulder, so that it fits snugly and tight, right?  I have seen that in
an Educalc catalog
long ago.   What I have hangs from the shoulder, like a camera strap.
It includes a hand strap, which conceivably could be worn on the belt.

Domingo

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>>>>This utility would be perfect for my needs, I want to
switch in and out for WP5.1.  Is this utility available on
SUPER?<<<<

Mode can also be used in a batch file.

However that other program (I can't remember it's name) lets you
also select any other mode the 200lx is capable of.

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Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:11:10 -0500 (EST)

Yep, "what he said"!

   Mine works like a champ, nice and small, but gets a little hot.
   I would make sure it has good ventilation if it was running 24/7.

Cheers..."father" Al

02h53m56s ago ...
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> ...

> Father Al can give you details also.  Docked configuration may not be
> portable enough to kid-proof tho...
*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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<<<<HPZOOM (8 KB) added 05/07/1997 (Screen)
Version 1.3 by David Sargeant
HPZOOM is a slick little program to automate HP screen zooms in
batch files.
Copyrighted freeware>>>>

Thats one of them.  There's also another older one written by Mark
Scardinia.  I think HPZoom is the one I've used.  If I remember
right, the command line on Mark's was kind of hard to remember.

What ever happened to Mark Scardinia?  How do LX's run without him?

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I browsed the issues, but did not see a
search engine.   By the way, does this generous move imply the beginning of
the
end for the palmtop paper?>>

In theory just hit the search button from home an other pages. You can
search with that. In practice, we just noticed it stopped working. It will
probably be fixed soon.

We may stop publishing PTP by the end of the year. Final decision hasn't
been made. However, if we do, we will still publish articles and tips on our
web site on our web site.

Some very good things are happening in terms of palmtop availability. There
is a good chance we have tapped into a limited source of new units (we'll
know soon) and a huge source of refurbished units (would be available by
August).

Hal at Thaddeus

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If you mean print preview, I can see underlines just fine with WP=/MONO.
My display is set to cga monocrome, not color.

Domingo

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:06:14 -0400 Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG> writes:
> Unless I have it wrong, Mode Mono allows WP underlines to actually
> appear as
> underlines, while running WP /mono with the display still set as
> Color, does
> not.
>
> >My apologies if I missed something.   What does the mode thing do
> for
> >WP5.1
> >that  SET WP=/MONO doesnt do?  Just curious.
>
> >Domingo
>
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On 12 Apr 2000 12:57:34 -0700, David Cripps <david@CRIPPS.COM> wrote:

> Dear All
>
> I know there has been a lot of bandwidth recently about using the HP's IR
> to connect to mobile phones, but at the time my old Nokia was not IRDA and
> I binned the mails - Doh! Now I've just upgraded to the latest Nokia 7710
> WAP phone and I need some help.

Thats what we are here for :-). I have a 7110 and is very satisfied.
But it has a lot of bugs in softwareversions 4.77 and below. I have
4.73, will upgrade tomorrow to the latest (4.80?). Check your version
by pressing *#0000# it should read 4.80 and you should be okey. 4.73
has a lot of bugs, Nothing much changed to 4.77, but this version is
less stable on wap. 4.80 is better on bugs and wap. But it still has
bugs.

> So sorry for repeating an old question. But how do I go about setting GP
> and WWW/LX to use IRDA?

-1 and setting the speed to 9600. Thats it. (Goin does not support
irda I think)

> I've used Andreas' little IR.EXE in server mode and can issue AT and get
> back OK from the phone! so I know that side of it is working.

Thats nice.. You can also use ir.exe to beam contacts from your
phonebook to the 7110. Check a message about this from me here not long
ago..

> Now if anybody comes across a WAP browser for DOS.......... :-)

That would be nice :-)

Regards

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On 11 Apr 2000 23:51:15 -0700, Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> wrote:

> Domingo,
>
> You're not finished downloading yet. Visit the Palmtop Archives at
> www.palmtoppaper.com All issues of PTP from 1991-1999. (50+ Mbytes)
> Searchable on the
> Web.

I would like this on the Hp..not all 50 mb in one bang, but I would
like to take some of it with me to read on the Hplx. Will there be a
possibility to download these?

I started reading some of theM and it was very interesting.

TIA

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On 13 Apr 2000 12:13:52 -0700, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> BTW : This message was sent with WWW/LX and a NOKIA 8110.

You bought a 8810 did'nt you? :-)

Regards

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> Domingo wrote:
>I see, you are talking about something that is tied around one's chest
>and
>shoulder, so that it fits snugly and tight, right?  I have seen that in
>an Educalc catalog
>long ago.   What I have hangs from the shoulder, like a camera strap.
>It includes a hand strap, which conceivably could be worn on the belt.

Yes, that's right, I want a concealed carrying pouch that goes under a
jacket or shirt.
The tourist pickpockets are adept at removing belt bags and carry bags
without the wearer's knowledge, and the loss of my LX would be the end
of my life.

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People, thanks for all your advice on how to speed up screen writes.
I'm sure I'll be able to sort it out now.
What a fantastic resource this list is. You guys are great

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Martin Bergvill asked
>>I would like this on the Hp..not all 50 mb in one bang, but I would
like to take some of it with me to read on the Hplx. Will there be a
possibility to download these?

I started reading some of theM and it was very interesting.

<<

Sure, download away. I set up the issues so you could capture an issue
along with all the graphics files and offload them to the Palmtop.  It works
best to do this from the same set of files on the 2000 CD Infobase but it
should be do-able from the Web site. You might want to use a site grabber
(on a desktop machine) that would let you select parts of a site to grab and
save and then copy them to the Palmtop.

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Folks,
Am trying to use X-Finder to get an OnHand PC communicating with NanCE
(my HP200lx ;-) Am using X-Finder R11B9 that comes with xfs.exf which
goes on the OnHand PC. I fire that up, line them up, press Menu - R - I
on the palmtop, see the hourglass for a few seconds, but get no
connection. On the palmtop side it is set at 38400 & Infrared, and I'm
doing everything per the docs. Has anyone else had any success at this?
On the OnHand PC side, when I kick off xfs I briefly see the dolphin,
it says 'Now loading' and then the screen goes completely blank... is
this the way it should be??? Any and all suggestions welcome..
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With my digital camera I also received a so called smart media card. This
card can be red by the PC card reader after it is entered into a pc card
adapter. Has anybody an idea if such a NAND type flash memory may be used in

the HPLX? In the specs it does no say a thing about the currency draw.
Lower then 150 mA?
How many of us _does_ it take to change a lightbulb anyway?

Net-Tamer V 1.12 Beta - Registered

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  Also, are there any
> little rubber plugs available to keep dirt/dust out of
> the ext. power & port conn. holes?
>
I have never seen dese or anyone one mention dem.
I never thought anyone konsidered them.  Since I
travel a lot and never use the recesses on the road,
I think they are practical and at times a necessity.
So I jerry rigged one and it woiks fine.


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Date:         Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:13:16 -0700
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About the only solution is to add a power diode between the HP's power
input jack and motherboard, in series with the correct enamelled wire
that's already there - so, if you plug in a backwards power supply, you
don't see any power coming from the plug to the HP.  (I'd use a Schottky
diode, and add a half volt to the power plug if needed to compensate for
the half-volt voltage drop you'd then get.)

I haven't looked at this (need more used HP's to play with!), I can
probably do this.  I'll look into it, next used machine I get.  It'd be
pretty cheap to fix.

Another alternative is to put a diode backwards, across the power leads,
but then you might melt the enamelled wires from the plug to the
motherboard if you plugged in a suplpy backwards - Doubt you want THAT!
<G>

  Mark

Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> hello Stan, David and the list,
>
> and how can I know if my HP200 LX tolerates a fault in polarity?
> As I mentioned before, I use my switcher power supply for more than one
> unit and I might be wrong with the polarity one day by accident.
>
> :~o
> Werner
>
> On 14 Apr 2000, at 5:10, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> > > was intended to operate.  On lesser machines, reverse polarity would
> > > burn up the unit.  Don't put reverse polarity into the HP palmtop.
> >
> > And, in fact, I've seen palmtops that couldn't handle it and had their
> > ability to handle external power at all completely destroyed by plugging
> > in a reverse-polarity plug.  That user was pretty unhappy, and had to
> > run on batteries alone until he could replace his motherboard.  Don't
> > let it happen to you ...
> >
>
> Thought for the day:
>     Advertising (n): the science of arresting the human
>     intelligence for long enough to get money from it.
>            -- Stephen Leacock.
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David,

> So sorry for repeating an old question. But how do I go about setting GP
> and WWW/LX to use IRDA?

I think it is in the docs somewhere - use Port=-1 to get to
your IR.

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Vic,

Victor Roberts wrote:
> I have had many problems running PALRUN, WWW/LX, POST/LX and PE
> on my OB800CT running Win95b. Something in this combination
> completely screws up the BIOS setting of the OB, so I have
> stopped using this except on my 200LX.

Very strange. I run this combination regularly now on my
OB800CT - zero problems. I doubt that WWW/LX is even
capable of changing bios settings - don't forget that this
program was specifically written for palmtops, not for
desktop machines. I did not do anything special in the dos
window that run the combo.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> does anyone know of a program that can be used as a dictionary? My idea
> is that I store pairs of words (or even phrases) in a text file, either
> comma seperated or blank or tab seperated, and use this program to
> rread the file and search through it.
>
> for example I have a file dict.txt containing
>
> and,und
> something,irgendwas

Depending on how many words, you can set up a database with
two fields, German word, English word. (Maybe even add two
other fields, examples of use for each language.) Two
Subsets, one showing the german word in col 1 and the other
shows the English word in Col. 1. the German subset sorts
on the german words etc. Switching subsets is fast.

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Hi Al,

mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu wrote:
> Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:34:07 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi Avi:
>
>    I'll have to check if I still have the MODEM. I remember contacting
>    you at the time(a few years back), and I think the init string was
>    suspect...I got a 2144 soon after and all was well, so I don't think
>    I ever finished "troubleshooting" the problem.

It would be interesting to me from an intellectual point of
view. The program hasn't got a clue what modem you have
there. It assumes you have one plugged in the post, and it
assumes you know your way around it and provided valid
initialization string, which it sends to the post and the
modem of course hears it. I think WWW/LX knows how to hang
up on a modem (ATH) and that's about it. Everything else is
provided by the user - speed, init string etc.

I have long suspected that some of the modems that never
worked were some type of plug-n-play, or relied on drivers
to do some part of the initialization or even part of the
process itself. Not much we can do about this... I think
the rule of thumb we used is that if the modem works with
datacomm, then you can set it up with commands and that
means you can feed them via init string i.e. they'll work
in WWW/LX. Actually Datacomm knows a tiny bit more about
modems than www.exe, but not much more.

So anyway, just my idle intellectual curiosity on this :-)
...

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dd diaz wrote:
> Quick/LX will do what you want, except automatically.  You
> set up the filters, and went you type the words at the

Quick/LX is now available for sale from D&A. I have still a
small number of packages that were transferred to us by
Shier and these include a manual. When these manuals are
gone they are gone. The online manual is available of
course.

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  http://www.dasoft.com

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Subject:      Re: IR connection between an OnHand PC & HP200lx
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:30:03 -0500
Suresh Nirody <esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> doing everything per the docs. Has anyone else had any success at this?

Yes, It works fine with me. I use the original Japanese version of
Ruputer.

> On the OnHand PC side, when I kick off xfs I briefly see the dolphin,
> it says 'Now loading' and then the screen goes completely blank... is
> this the way it should be??? Any and all suggestions welcome..

Yes, XFS.EXF shows completely blank screen while it's running.

What I do to connect is as follows:
1. On HPLX switch to Filer, press '+' twice to activate IR port (this is
a Buddy feature. I am always lock the serial port by Buddy so I need
this to enable it).
2. launch XFS on Ruputer, place it near the IR port of HPLX.
3. Switch back to X-Finder, press {F5}(go to) and enter "*A:" (remote A
   drive) or "*B:"

You can use also RULI (Ruputer Link), available from
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/ru/


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Date:         Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:44:16 +0200
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Hi,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:15:35 -0700, "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET> wrote:

> Has anyone seen the clip-on light/magnifier that's
> available for GameBoy these days?  Something along
> those lines would be perfect for my 200lx, at least

if you have skills in electronics or a friend of you has, you can build
a LED frontlight for your LX. If you're interested, have a look at
http://daniel.hplx.net and read about the LED light!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:44:21 +0200
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Hi Robert,

thanks,

I set up the dictionary as database and I downloaded DBLearn. Nice
combo! Seems to work for me so far.

Now I have not only a dictionary but also a software that helps me to
learn the words! Excellent!

GTX
daniel

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:37:26 -0500 (CDT), robert c lewis <rc-lewis@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> I believe you can use the regular database application for this.
> Further, the program DBLearn from SUPER will help you review the
> words/phrases and allow you to track your progress.  Though I haven't used
> the program myself, I've been interested in doing something similar (for
> indonesian words, partly because I can't find adaquate coverage for this
> language).

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Stephan Goeldi writes:
> Isn't this problem covered by nofiddle.com (included in WWW/LX and PE)?

> From: "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>
> > > Can you run "epppd" if you have System Manager up&running?
> > > I try to setup MaxDos but I've had the same symptoms.
> >
> > I don't use the product but sysmgr can sometimes poll the serial port
> > and interfere with serial communications.  There may be some tsr's that
> > can stop that.  Or you may be running low on room.  Terminating sysmgr
> > may be the best option.

There are several reasons for running epppd under MAXDOS:
1. Sysmgr can play around with the Com port
2. You might accidentally switch to another app by pressing a blue key,and
I dont know how healthy this would be in the middle of a packet transfer.
Remember Sysmgr is NOT multitasking. If you switch apps, the app in the
background STOPS.
3. An alarm can go off while you are connected -same problem.
4. Some of the applications you run under epppd (Arachne?) need a lot of memory
anyway and you really dont want to switch and shut down things while on line.

I have found that when I am online, I want to be online and UNINTERRUPTED. For
me the easiest way to do this is an LXTCP icon in AppMgr which calls maxdos
and 200MNU (an alpha version) which gives me a menu of dial up numbers and
when online a menu of programs to run. When I exit 200mnu, termin is called to
disconnect, and I exit from MAXDOS.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000  19:13:00 +0000, D-cripps@dircon.co.uk wrote:

> > I think you should be able to just put
> > -1 for the port in www/lx and use the irda.  It is already built in to
>
> Many thanks, this is has been sent from my hotel room, from my HPLX,
> via IrDA to my Nokia 7710. Not rocket science but it makes me grin!

Yes it makes me grin every time :-)..(it will would make me grin even
more if I had a 7710..which does not exist..typo..you mean 7110:-)

> I'll have to speak nicely to Steve Lawson to get IrDA added to Going
> Postal (hint). I have several Email addresses and GP makes downloading
> from them a breeze.

You do know ofcourse that you can have several boxes in Post/lx too..

Regards

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Martin,

> > BTW : This message was sent with WWW/LX and a NOKIA 8110.
>
> You bought a 8810 did'nt you? :-)

Of course ;-)  This was not the first time I made this typo, and it
will not be the last time. It's because you were complaining about not
getting your 7110 and I continue to just exchange the "7" for the "8"
(G).

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Is it from a Ricoh RDC-1?
Bryan


Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>
> With my digital camera I also received a so called smart media card. This
> card can be red by the PC card reader after it is entered into a pc card
> adapter. Has anybody an idea if such a NAND type flash memory may be used in
>
> the HPLX? In the specs it does no say a thing about the currency draw.
> Lower then 150 mA?
> How many of us _does_ it take to change a lightbulb anyway?
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.12 Beta - Registered
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<<<<By the way, does this generous move imply the beginning of the
end for the palmtop paper?>>>>>

I've been wondering since a major 200lx programmer announced that
he's going to start developing for the palm, just how much longer
people will be using the 200lx.

I think we all know there's nothing that can really replace it but
the palm is pretty good and it has very large audience and will
probably attract more and more pda programmmers.  When we reach the
point where there's not much new software for the 200lx anymore,
what then?

I realize that there's already such a huge library of software
available that this doesn't seem like much of a problem.  Until
things change.  When access to the internet changes and there's
nobody around to write drivers or software for the new methods,
whatever they might be, what then?  And there are ways that can
happen.  Security changes,  technology changes, low power, high
speed modems,  and what else?

Or maybe some new software development will become a "must have" in
the way that a spreadsheet did on early desktops, and nobody will be
around to write one for the 200lx.

Or maybe the Palm or the next WinCE OS or some other will become so
good a year from now that it'll just be irresistable.  I saw a
review on www.winceonline.com about a new one with a new os that the
reviewers think will be a major competitor to the Palm and WinCE
because of it's improved communications and it's ability to access
your existing email as well as better web browsing and paging via
email.  Maybe this won't be irrestistable but maybe the next one or
the one after will be.

I remember the Tandy Model 100 sig on CIS and how over the years it
went from an active bunch of programmers, users and engineers to a
few old guys sitting around talking about the glory of the days of
old.  But not till a number of years after they stopped making them.

What do y'all think about this?  Is it likely?  If so, how far away
is it?  If not, why not?  Are we going to own ancient hobby
machines?  Or will there be enough new software and gadgets to keep
it going for a long time?

Well, enough gloom for today.

Barry

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<<<<My apologies if I missed something.   What does the mode thing
do for
WP5.1 that  SET WP=/MONO doesnt do?  Just curious.>>>>

I didn't realize that was an option in WP.  Thanks for pointing it
out.  Was the /MONO  a typo or is the slash really needed?

Barry

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<<<<<It fits the palmtop nicely.  Just one compartment with plenty
of space for a few more things.  I tried something with more
compartments once, but did not like the bulkyness. I don't like the
geeky look that it gives me to always carry that around, but I know
from experience that a palmtop in the pocket (any pocket) is a
palmtop on the ground!>>>>>

I've carried my palmtop in my pocket since shortely after the 95lx
came out.  It's fallen out twice.  Once into the water but it even
survived that.  That time scared me and I got more careful and it
never happened again.

Besides, I wear suspenders and there's nothing that works well with
suspenders.  They have all the geekiness they can stand built right
in.  :)

Barry

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I don't think it's necessary for the 200LX to whither away. Systems become
obsolete due to lost interest in the things that can be done and the lure of
new things that can't be done on a given system.

I use the calendar function daily to record my client visits for billing
accuracy. I also use Symantec's Q&A for DOS to carry my business data for
fast access.

I don't see this changing in the next FIVE years. The WinCE and other
portable systems can't do what I'm doing now, so they lose! I'll continue
being productive as long as the 200LXs I have keep functioning or can be
repaired.

New isn't always better, and I have no need to keep up with the "Jones's"



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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<<<<<I don't really need much of a laptop, but it has to have at
least 4GB of
space and 64MB of RAM to perform well.  I could probably get
something for
around $1000, maybe $1200.  I've been thinking about adding a larger
drive
to this IBM ThinkPad 365ED I may be able to get for a couple hundred
dollars from a client who needs a more powerful laptop, but it maxes
out
at 24MB of RAM, and that would greatly slow hplx.net down.>>>>>

I have a Thinkpad 365XD and I thought the only difference was TFT in
the XD and DSTN in the ED.  Anyway I have 40 meg installed.  That is
the max.  At least on the XD.

You might check www.thinkpad.com.  That guy knows everything about
Thinkpads and he has all kinds of lists published on his site.  And
if you don't find what you want, email him.  He loves talking
Thinkpads. :)

My new Thinkpad is a 1412i.  I watched the stores for the model
change and when they came out with it's replacement I bought it for
$1300.  A week later I could have gotten one for $1000.  It had been
$1900 the week before I bought it.  They're gone now but if you pick
a model and watch for it to be reduced you can find some really good
deals.  Only now you have to watch online since IBM no longer sells
in stores.

Barry

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<<<<If you mean print preview, I can see underlines just fine with
WP=/MONO.
My display is set to cga monocrome, not color.>>>>

Actually there is no cga monochrome.  The original IBM PC card was
text only monochrome, called MDA or (I think) Monochrome Display
Adapter.  When there was some demand for color they developed CGA
which I suppose is Color Graphics Adapter.  The two adapters work
very differently, even using different memory address for their
screen memory so that you could have both in the machine and have 2
monitors.

Just guessing but I think the 200lx was probably the first PC to
offer both adapters for the same screen.

A lot of software (I don't know if this includes WP) can be set to
monochrome mode meaning that it won't display in colors even though
it uses cga.  Thats to avoid problems with cga monitors that display
colors as shades of gray or green or amber or whatever the color of
the monitor.  The early Compaqs all did this as did a few other
early PC's.

When they do that it's still cga, but they only use the darkest and
brightest color for the greatest contrast.  And sometimes an
intermediate color for normal text and the brightest for
highlighting.

But if WP gives you underlining, it's not in CGA (unless it's in
graphics mode).  More likely it's using MDA since early graphics
mode wasn't that easy to read text in.

Barry  (my age is showing :)

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I have (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA  name brand  Sandisk type ATA II available.
This disk is  in excellent condition and I am selling it for $120.00
plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (1) 48 meg Compact
Flash disk name brand Simple Technologies  available. This disk is in
excellent condition and has only been used a very few times on testing a
customers new prototype product at work. I am selling this disk for
$75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I  also have (6) 20 Meg
PCMCIA Type ATA II flash  disks available. I sell one disk for $35.00
plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I still have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks
avaiable as well. I am selling them for $40.00 a piece plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging and if you would like (2) I am selling (2) 20 Meg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I accept
Money Orders Only! and you can mail payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks our on the way. I always send out disks the
very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I
will send them out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and
place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. If you
are interested in any of these products, email me back and I will hold
you disk or (disks) for you. The response on this group had been just
terrific
and the people I have worked with here have been just great!
Thanks Alot!    Scott

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Back in my Apple II+ days I discovered ThinkTank and developed an addiction
to outliners.  When my attention shifted to CP/M, I toyed with the original
Kamas CP/M outliner and used it happily for several years.

With DOS, my wandering eye focused firstly upon PC Outline and then, fickle
soul that I am, to the outliner love of my life - GrandView.  I have been
using GrandView for over five years and have yet to find anything of equal
capacity and flexibility.  Although I had heard that it was not Y2K
compliant, someone forgot to mention that supposed fact to my version.  I
have been using GrandView since the turn of the century without any
problems at all.

Unfortunately Symantec has not released GrandView into the common pool of
software knowledge.  I also understand that Symantec continues to charge
the usual combination of human limbs for a registered version of GrandView.
However, my information on that subject is quite dated.

So -- If you are still functioning in the HP200LX DOS environment and want
a fully functional industrial strength outliner where ever you go,
GrandView is still a viable alternative.

>From:    D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
>Subject: Outliners and Y2k

>Hi.   I have discovered that Thinktank is not Y2k compliant.   It seems
>to work fine,
>but it forces the system date to 8/15/99, so I cannot deal with that.
>I am currently playing with Kamas, which appears to be powerful and easy.
>No Y2k problems so far.
>Anyone had any luck contacting the author for registration/updates?

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Date:         Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:02:12 -0400
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Barry wrote:
>
> I've been wondering since a major 200lx programmer announced that
> he's going to start developing for the palm, just how much longer
> people will be using the 200lx.
>
> I think we all know there's nothing that can really replace it but
> the palm is pretty good and it has very large audience and will
> probably attract more and more pda programmmers.  When we reach the
> point where there's not much new software for the 200lx anymore,
> what then?
>

We've beaten around this bush before, but there's some entertainment, at
least, in that, so another round might be fun ...

Divide the market for 200s into 4 groups:
   (a) DITW (Dyed-In-The-Wool) 200 Users
   (b) Serious Users
   (c) Supplemental Users
   (d) Technology Frontiers-people
I won't waste time, or ink, arguing about whether these categories are exclusive
and exhaustive. It's close enough to both for me. And to make biases clear I'd
class myself as a (c).

The (a) group folks apparently like doing things on the 200 because they like
doing things on the 200. They get off on its size and power. Their ideal
situation, I suppose, would be having central control of a space shot all
running on a 200/Minix system, communicating by wireless with the 200CPU
located on a remote Swiss Alp. This group will slowly shrink, but only at
the rate caused by the death of its members, so unless some terrible disease
ends up being carried by the 200 itself, there will be 200 users for a good
long time yet.

The (b) group is apparently populated by people for whom the 200 is a `major'
computational instrument in their lives. For some of these people it _is_ their
`laptop'. For others, it may truly be their _only_ serious computer. I don't
know much about who these folks are, but they can speak for themselves. I can
say that I don't expect their number to _increase_ at all, but rather to
slowly decline as other alternatives become more adequate and much cheaper.

I'm one of the members of the (c) group. I like my 200, but reserve it for
a few data capture tasks and as an electronic appointment/phone book. I sync
my PCMCIA card with my other six computers most days, certainly at least twice
a week. I like having the _option_ to lapse into APL or J and do some
calculation when I am sitting on the subway, but I rarely make use of it
(I don't think I have, for example, so far this millennium). This group may
increase, slightly, in size, but I would expect that any such increase would
largely be from (b) group people dropping out of the (b) group. Some of the
(c) group members occasionally drop out to Palm or CE machines, but often find
the alternatives so _terrible_ that they return. I have made that particular
journey myself---a couple of times.

The (d) folks have been here and have already gone. They aren't coming back.

So, the prospects for the future are, IMO, mixed. If you're looking for long
life, I'd say things look good. If you're looking for things new and
interesting, I'd say things look bad.

Indeed, the _serious_ competition to the 200, at least for me, will not come
from WinCE, or Palm, but rather from Nokia or Motorola. As things stand, I
am _absolutely committed_ by forces of nature to carry my cellophane. So far
I have found the (US) implementation of Phone Supplemental Facilities
ridiculous, and thus I now carry both my 200 and my Cel, but comes the day
that I can get a decent Cel with decent non-Cel facilities I will likely
make my (last) journey out of the (c)-gang...

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Subject:      Printing from Software Carousel - list of favourites
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Can anyone on the list provide guidance on how to setup Software Carousel
to print through the HP serial cable?  I have a functioning serial to
parallel converter and have setup my programmes to print through the serial
port.  My Software Carousel manual is of no assistance on this issue.

Until last week I simply transferred my data via my HP200LX's flashcard
over to my laptop and then printed out the material.  Alas, my laptop is
out of action for a couple of months but I am not - and I still need to
print materials created on my palmtop.

The printers which I use are HP IIP lazerjet compatible.  The software I
regularly use includes the following (my list of favourites):

1.  the built in apps
2.  Grandview
3.  Agenda
4.  Quattro Pro
5.  Personal Food Analyst
6.  WordPerfect 5.1
7.  Paradox 3.5
8.  Vertical Reader
9.  Success (A Canadian loan and mortgage calculation programme)
10. Framework III

Many thanks for your assistance!!

Larry Fast

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 00:27:20 -700
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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No, from a Fuji MX2900. Having inserted the smart card with the adapter in
my HPLX I could access the card without difficulties. Only my PC cardreader
although accepting the card with the usual beep could not do anything with
the smart card. Somebody where I could find a driver for this card. Should
be a DOS driver as I am still Windows free.

On 2000-04-15 biggers@globaldialog.com said:
 bi>Is it from a Ricoh RDC-1?
 bi>Bryan
 bi>Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
 bi>> With my digital camera I also received a so called smart media
 bi>>card. This  card can be red by the PC card reader after it is
 bi>>entered into a pc card  adapter. Has anybody an idea if such a
 bi>NAND type flash memory may be used in >
 bi>> the HPLX? In the specs it does no say a thing about the currency
 bi>>draw.  Lower then 150 mA?
 bi>> How many of us _does_ it take to change a lightbulb anyway?
 bi>> Net-Tamer V 1.12 Beta - Registered
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The dumbest question is the one that never gets asked...

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Barry wrote:
> Ý... gloomy future for the 200LX...¨
> Or maybe the Palm or the next WinCE OS or some other will become so
> good a year from now that it'll just be irresistable.  I saw a
> review on www.winceonline.com about a new one with a new os that the

You may want to check where the review really appeared.  WinCEonline
does not have any content of their own, they burry links to other sites
within their frames.  Some people consider this theft of bandwith.

> reviewers think will be a major competitor to the Palm and WinCE
> because of it's improved communications and it's ability to access
> your existing email as well as better web browsing and paging via
> email.  Maybe this won't be irrestistable but maybe the next one or
> the one after will be.

WinCE and whatever the next generation is called are heavily biased
to be used with Windows desktops.  I know, this is the majority of
users, but there are enough people for whom this is not an option.
Whatever will replace my 200LX, it will have to fit in my Unix-based
work environment or otherwise it will be a useless toy.  I expect that
a future Palm or Psion-like gadget will become the natural choice for
us Windows-refusers.

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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:02:12 -0400 David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> writes:
I'd certainly agree with this.  It is silly that I've got to carry a
PIM/Computer when I'm already carrying a phone.

What I'd like to see is the Blackberry folks put a cell phone in their
pager and open up the processor to some open-source OS.  A digital phone
with a 386 processor smaller than a deck of cards - that's my dream
machine.

I guess I'm a "(c)Supplemental User" and I feel myself fading fast.  I've
found the Palm to not be unbearable or terrible.  In fact, I rather like
it.  Even so, I cannot bear to part with the 200lx.  I guess I'm the
worst type of user 'cause I'm not using the 200lx more than once a month
now but I'm not freeing it up for one of those (a) or (b) users.

Larry

David Ness wrote:
>Indeed, the _serious_ competition to the 200, at least for me, will
>not come
>from WinCE, or Palm, but rather from Nokia or Motorola.

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Is the 200lx going to whither away?

Barry writes:

> I think we all know there's nothing that can really replace it but
> the palm is pretty good and it has very large audience and will
> probably attract more and more pda programmmers.  When we reach the
> point where there's not much new software for the 200lx anymore,
> what then?
>
> I realize that there's already such a huge library of software
> available that this doesn't seem like much of a problem.  Until
> things change.  When access to the internet changes and there's
> nobody around to write drivers or software for the new methods,
> whatever they might be, what then?  And there are ways that can
> happen.  Security changes,  technology changes, low power, high
> speed modems,  and what else?
>
> Or maybe some new software development will become a "must have" in
> the way that a spreadsheet did on early desktops, and nobody will be
> around to write one for the 200lx.
>
> Or maybe the Palm or the next WinCE OS or some other will become so
> good a year from now that it'll just be irresistable.  I saw a
> review on www.winceonline.com about a new one with a new os that the
> reviewers think will be a major competitor to the Palm and WinCE
> because of it's improved communications and it's ability to access
> your existing email as well as better web browsing and paging via
> email.  Maybe this won't be irrestistable but maybe the next one or
> the one after will be.
>
> I remember the Tandy Model 100 sig on CIS and how over the years it
> went from an active bunch of programmers, users and engineers to a
> few old guys sitting around talking about the glory of the days of
> old.  But not till a number of years after they stopped making them.
>
> What do y'all think about this?  Is it likely?  If so, how far away
> is it?  If not, why not?  Are we going to own ancient hobby
> machines?  Or will there be enough new software and gadgets to keep
> it going for a long time?
>
> Well, enough gloom for today.
>
> Barry
>
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>Can anyone on the list provide guidance on how to setup
>Software Carousel to print through the HP serial cable?

I don't use SC myself, but I hadn't thought that anything special was needed,
compared to a non-SC setup.

>The software I regularly use

>1.  the built in apps
>2.  Grandview
>3.  Agenda
>10. Framework III



What an arrangement! You must use organizers to organize the other organizers
      <g>.



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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Divide the market for 200s into 4 groups:
>    (a) DITW (Dyed-In-The-Wool) 200 Users
>    (b) Serious Users
>    (c) Supplemental Users
>    (d) Technology Frontiers-people

I generally agree with your catagories but I'd add one more,
although I may be the only one in it.  I'm  a retired programmer and
I now kind of play around with programming.  I use a laptop
sometimes, a Palm sometimes and the 200lx sometimes.  I don't want
to sit at a desk and program so it has to be something portable.  I
know dos best and I know c and asm and that makes the 200 pretty
much my main toy.

If I end up as the last person using one I'll enjoy using it as much
as I do now.  I have all the software I'll ever need for it and I
have 3 200lx's, a 100lx and 2 95lx's.  Probably a lifetime supply.

But I'd miss the discussing it with other knowlegable people, and
especially this group, since I've been discussing it with a lot of
this group for years, here and before this, on CIS.  I think I enjoy
this as much as I enjoy the 200lx.

I agree that there's nothing that can quite replace it but I suspect
that will change with time and as technology changes what is
practical.

I think you're also right about the phones changing everything.
They're already turning into pdas and in a few years most people
will feel the need to carry one.  I've just decided to get a
cellular phone.  I live in the country and if my car broke down 20
miles from anything (entirely possible where I live) I'd have a
serious problem.  I'm not able to walk 20 miles now.  So now I have
to decide whether to carry a PDA or a phone when I'm out and around.
I'd hate carrying both.  I don't know what I'll do yet.

The 200lx will continue to do what it does very well, but I wonder
if what it does will continue to be useful.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:47:01 -0400
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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: CGA Mode
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May I suggest a better solution.   On AUTOEXEC.BAT type  SET WP=/MONO
It is enough to start WP in mono.   Also, at the prompt you could type WP
/MONO.

Domingo

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:36:56 -0400 Bruce Martin
<Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> writes:
> FWIW, I use LXSTAT (found on SUPER) for starting WP 5.1 in mono --
> among a variety of other uses.
>
> Here's my WP.BAT:
>
> @echo off
> a:\util\lxstat M M
> cd a:\wp51
> wp

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:46:56 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> <<<<My apologies if I missed something.   What does the mode thing
> do for WP5.1 that  SET WP=/MONO doesnt do?  Just curious.>>>>
>
> I didn't realize that was an option in WP.  Thanks for pointing it
> out.  Was the /MONO  a typo or is the slash really needed?

No typo.

From the C prompt, you type WP /MONO.  From AUTOEXEC.BAT
you type SET WP=/MONO, then you don't have to do it at the prompt.

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:51:30 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> I've carried my palmtop in my pocket since shortely after the 95lx
> came out.  It's fallen out twice.  Once into the water but it even
> survived that.  That time scared me and I got more careful and it
> never happened again.

I have been careful as well, but with no more palmtops in production,
once is too many.

> Besides, I wear suspenders and there's nothing that works well with
> suspenders.  They have all the geekiness they can stand built right
> in.  :)

I wear suspenders, glasses, and long sleeves, even in beach.  How
much geekyer can I get?  :-)

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You sound like a prime candidate for the new Unix palm device.  I
don't know much about it but I have seen it and it looks rather cool.

Domingo

Domingo
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:44:24 +0200 Gerhard Gonter
<gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT> writes:
>
> WinCE and whatever the next generation is called are heavily biased
> to be used with Windows desktops.  I know, this is the majority of
> users, but there are enough people for whom this is not an option.
> Whatever will replace my 200LX, it will have to fit in my Unix-based
> work environment or otherwise it will be a useless toy.  I expect  that
> a future Palm or Psion-like gadget will become the natural choice
> for us Windows-refusers.

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:23:08 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> <<<<If you mean print preview, I can see underlines just fine with
> WP=/MONO.
> My display is set to cga monocrome, not color.>>>>
>
> Actually there is no cga monochrome

I know that, but tell that to my WordPerfect setup screen!  It says
cga monochrome.

> Just guessing but I think the 200lx was probably the first PC to
> offer both adapters for the same screen.

Nope.  The Poqet PC did it before that, and I think even
the Hp95lx does it too (not sure on that one).  Surely some laptop
did it before then.  The Grid pad perhaps?

> A lot of software (I don't know if this includes WP) can be set to
> monochrome mode meaning that it won't display in colors even though
> it uses cga.

Yep, Wp  does.

> But if WP gives you underlining, it's not in CGA (unless it's in
> graphics mode).  More likely it's using MDA since early graphics
> mode wasn't that easy to read text in.

AFAIK, WP5.1 doesnt show underlining in the edit screen with *any*
monitor.  Only in print preview.   Whether CGA or MDA, it works just
fine for me.

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:02:12 -0400 David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> writes:
> Divide the market for 200s into 4 groups:
>    (a) DITW (Dyed-In-The-Wool) 200 Users
>    (b) Serious Users
>    (c) Supplemental Users
>    (d) Technology Frontiers-people

Interesting categories.  I once thought I belong to (a), but by your
definition I am really a (b).   I have been on the verge of getting
myself
a Palm Vx, after seen first hand how outstandingly easy to read the
screen
really is (better than a laptop IMHO).   But after inmersing myself into
palm
web sites and newsgroups, a picture emerges of a device that is not yet
ready to do everything I need as well as I do it on my HP200LX.

1- Bugs are still being worked on the more powerful applications
(InfoSelect notes
cannot be larger than 4k, as opposed to 32k on my palmtop.    The music
programs cannot handle more than 4 voices.  The Bible programs don't do
much yet.   The other outliners cause a number of problems with backing
up.  And
on and on)

2-It is very easy to lose all or much of your data on a palm (the hotsync
issue
plus the lack of a real backup battery.    The thingy that holds power
while
you change bateries is prone to fail).  Backup Buddy is supposed to help,
but I still read the complaints.

3-The Trgpro, the only palm device designed to use a flash card, will run
down on
batteries if the card is used too regularly (they say that several times
a day of use
will take your batteries down to 2 weeks of use.  I access my cp flash
card daily and
still get 6 to 8 weeks of battery life on my hplx).   And programs still
don't run from the
card (that's supposed to change in may).

4-The thing is so cute, but so fragile! Yes, even the Palm v with its
aluminum case.
I think there ought to be a way to make it stronger.

5-I though a palm would not have hinge cracks problems, but it does have
stylus
receptacle crack problems!  (at least the plastic palms).

So why look at a palm?  Small, long battery life, very small size, and
backlight!!!
While no hplx backlight will ever touch the palm Vx screen, it will
certainly greatly
diminish my cravings for another device.

Enough ranting.   We know the Hp200LX will last forever  .  .  .  not.
8=(

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On April 14, Jean-Michel FROUIN wrote:
 =

>Is there a text editor that can help me to write math equtions on my Hp
100lx?
>Thanks in advance

The DOS versions of either Derive by Softwarehoue or Mathcad by MathSoft
can =

generate advanced math equations.  Derive is Systems Manager compliant. =

Mathcad
must be run from the DOS prompt.  Of the DOS versions of these products,
Derive
has the more powerful math engine with the capacity to do symbolic advanc=
ed
math
calculations.  Mathcad has the more sophisticated user interface and
formating
capabilites, with the capacity to import HPGL graphics.  I think that you=

can =

download a demo from each of the web sites of these two companies.

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I don't believe I've ever seen a SysMgr compliant version of Derive (ie, .exm,
if that's what you mean).

My version Derive 3.04 has to execute from DOS also.

I've never used Mathcad, so I can't comment on it, but Derive can take equations
entered into it and do a reasonably good text-only rendition.  I had to use that
for my calculus class (some integrals can be quite challenging to enter as text,
by hand).

- Longden





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On April 14, Jean-Michel FROUIN wrote:

>Is there a text editor that can help me to write math equtions on my Hp
100lx?

The DOS versions of either Derive by Softwarehoue or Mathcad by MathSoft
can generate advanced math equations.  Derive is Systems Manager compliant.
Mathcad must be run from the DOS prompt.

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Well, regarding the Palm devices, it's a moot point for me.  I tried and
hate the pen interface.  Unless it's got a keyboard (which is a dwindling
breed these days), it simply won't work for me.  I do too much input on
the fly to dink around with a pen.

J. P. Grenert
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> Vic,
>
> Victor Roberts wrote:
> > I have had many problems running PALRUN, WWW/LX, POST/LX and PE
> > on my OB800CT running Win95b. Something in this combination
> > completely screws up the BIOS setting of the OB, so I have
> > stopped using this except on my 200LX.
>
> Very strange. I run this combination regularly now on my
> OB800CT - zero problems. I doubt that WWW/LX is even
> capable of changing bios settings - don't forget that this
> program was specifically written for palmtops, not for
> desktop machines. I did not do anything special in the dos
> window that run the combo.

And I've used and use it on win95 on two different desktops, win98 on
two different desktops and with win95b on an ibmpc110 and win98 on a
ibm thinkpad240.

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I didn't see my message come through before ... did it?

hplx.net is undergoing some more technical problems and is down again
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Hi Jean-Michel,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:23:14 +0200, Jean-Michel FROUIN <Snoogie@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> there is a text editor who can help me to wrote math eqution on my Hp
> 100lx?

It's no 'text editor' but more a text formatter, but if you're familiar
with LaTeX. Try LXTeX!

You can find LXTeX on http://daniel.hplx.net

It's ideal to typeset mathematical formulas along with texts. It's
often used by scientists to write whole scientific books.

GTX
daniel


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Hi,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:36:16 +0200, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:
> > So sorry for repeating an old question. But how do I go about setting GP
> > and WWW/LX to use IRDA?
>
> -1 and setting the speed to 9600. Thats it. (Goin does not support
> irda I think)

I don't know about the Nokia phones, but my Siemens S25 can have a baud
rate of up to 38400 over the IR port. It's not of much use for online
sessions, because they run only at 9600 baud (although it is better to
have a higher baud rate between 'modem' and computer than between
'modem' and ISP), but it is good if you send SMSs via Stefan Peichl's
PDU and the SMS-skript for Robot/LX.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Al,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:04:05 -0700, hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> I have never seen dese or anyone one mention dem.
> I never thought anyone konsidered them.  Since I
> travel a lot and never use the recesses on the road,
> I think they are practical and at times a necessity.
> So I jerry rigged one and it woiks fine.

Sorry if the question is dumb, but - why do you write so strangely? Is
it something like a dialect or a kind of slang or just for fun?

I as a German don't know the internal secrets of the English language,
so I cannot imagine the reason. :-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Mark,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:13:16 -0700, Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:

> Another alternative is to put a diode backwards, across the power leads,
> but then you might melt the enamelled wires from the plug to the
> motherboard if you plugged in a suplpy backwards - Doubt you want THAT!

Another possibility would be to put a fuse in series to the diode you
described above. Then the fuse would melt in the case you plug an AC
adapter backwards. Not the wires.

But the protection was gone after one failure! ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Avi,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:44:35 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> wrote:

> Depending on how many words, you can set up a database with
> two fields, German word, English word. (Maybe even add two
> other fields, examples of use for each language.) Two

Exactly this way I did it now! :-) Works very well!

> Subsets, one showing the german word in col 1 and the other
> shows the English word in Col. 1. the German subset sorts
> on the german words etc. Switching subsets is fast.

How is this possible? This would be very helpful, but I read in the
manual about subsets and couldn't find anything about such a setting.
Do I have to use a SSL command for this?
The only way I could do this you described above is to press F7 (sort)
and modify the sort criteria. This allows to let the DB sort the 1st or
the 2nd coloumn, but does not allow to exchange 1st and 2nd Coloumn.
For this operation I had to press F8 (coloumn).

TNX
daniel

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D Dv wrote:
> You sound like a prime candidate for the new Unix palm device.  I
> don't know much about it but I have seen it and it looks rather cool.

The device's operating system is less important for me, integration into
my work environment is all that counts.  Frankly, I would not object if
Transmeta creates a Linux palmtop with all the capabilities of an HP-LX,
256MB RAM, USB, FIR, and MP3 stereo player ;)

Too bad that the Sony MZ-R120PDA Ý1¨ will never be available anywhere :(

Ý1¨ http://www.minidisc.org/mz-r110pda.htm

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Barry wrote:

> I've been wondering since a major 200lx programmer announced that
> he's going to start developing for the palm, just how much longer
> people will be using the 200lx.

Rod Whitby's good bye was a sad day for this group. But you
never know if he's coming back one day. As for me, I will stay
with the 200LX. I like the Palm "by sight" and I'm flirting
with her. Lately she put up some color and more brain to please
me, but I'm almost sure, the first time we go to bed will be a
complete disaster: an endless line of misunderstandings... ;-)

> I realize that there's already such a huge library of software
> available that this doesn't seem like much of a problem.  Until
> things change.

IrDA was such a change and I fear, Bluethooth will be the next.
As Andreas Garzotto showed, there are ways to implement the new
technologies, but it's far from trivial. Look at the IrDA
specifications; more than once you ask yourself, for what reason
is it done so complicated?

We reached a point, where every new technology adds more layers
of complexity instead of removing some. In my opinion, this is
the main reason for the still ongoing "software crisis".

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Daniel,

I think there is a discussion of this somewhere back in the archives.
Apparently it amuses `hobchi' to write in what we might call `pidgin-English'
(or some near dialect). As a native English reader, I also find it mildly
amusing, and somewhat of a break from the normal messages. It would be awful
if everyone chose to do it, but since it comes only from one correspondent.
it doesn't trouble me.

It clearly does interfere with understanding by those for whom English is
a second or third language, but apparently `hobchi' finds the amusement
value outweighs this consideration---at least to him/her self.

I would say that on the whole the contributions you will miss if you just
neglect the messages are not so profound in general that you are going
to go about uninformed. In any particular case if you think you are missing
something, just ask and someone will surely `translate' the remarks into
English...

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi Al,
>
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:04:05 -0700, hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > I have never seen dese or anyone one mention dem.
> > I never thought anyone konsidered them.  Since I
> > travel a lot and never use the recesses on the road,
> > I think they are practical and at times a necessity.
> > So I jerry rigged one and it woiks fine.
>
> Sorry if the question is dumb, but - why do you write so strangely? Is
> it something like a dialect or a kind of slang or just for fun?
>
> I as a German don't know the internal secrets of the English language,
> so I cannot imagine the reason. :-)
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
>
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<<<<Nope.  The Poqet PC did it before that, and I think even
the Hp95lx does it too (not sure on that one).  Surely some laptop
did it before then.  The Grid pad perhaps?>>>>

I didn't know about the Poquet.  The 95lx was MDA and had
proprietary graphics modes.

As a programmer the distinction between MDA and CGA is very
important.  Most Bios text and graphics routines are fairly slow at
best and often very slow.  So a lot of programs write directly to
screen memory to improve performance.

MDA and CGA have their screen memory at different addresses and the
program has to either be written for one or the other, or be written
(as WP seems to be) to determine which adapter so it can know where
the screen memory is located.

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<<<<<<<You may want to check where the review really appeared.
WinCEonline
does not have any content of their own, they burry links to other
sites
within their frames.  Some people consider this theft of
bandwith.>>>>>>

You're right.  The actual url is:
 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-1679580.html?tag=st.ne.1006.

<<<<<<<WinCE and whatever the next generation is called are heavily
biased
to be used with Windows desktops.  I know, this is the majority of
users, but there are enough people for whom this is not an option.
Whatever will replace my 200LX, it will have to fit in my Unix-based
work environment or otherwise it will be a useless toy.  I expect
that
a future Palm or Psion-like gadget will become the natural choice
for
us Windows-refusers.>>>>>>>

The PDA they're talking about is the Rim, from a communications
company, and doesn't use WinCE.  It has it's own OS.  I'm not
familiar with Rim but it seems they're well known in communications
and are just getting into the PDA market.

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> - CheckFree
>   + pays all my bills and tracks all my other checks

Is this version still available? I'd love to work my checks
on the palmtop!

> - WWW/LX with POST & HV
>   + with this and CheckFree, I don't need a desktop PC!

Oh, you mean you Checkfree is used off the web, or it is
just both are useful to you?

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Paul, Systems-Consulting wrote:
> I don't think it's necessary for the 200LX to whither away. Systems become
> obsolete due to lost interest in the things that can be done and the lure of
> new things that can't be done on a given system.

I completely agree with you. I see so many people who
confuse productivity with "sexiness" - they think that if
the tool is shiny and sleek, their productivity is up!

On the plane from JFK to LAX today, my neighbour sported a
Wince 680. He told me he used the 200LX before. He told me
that his WinCE runs circles around the >00LX, that his chip
is faster bla bla bla... Finally I asked him to devise
three tests, and compare. He thought it was a great idea. I
beat him on all three tests with a huge margin.

Then I just stuck the second 200LX I have right in his
shirt pocket :-) -- He smiled and said he got all four
points!

Then we talked about the literally hundreds of program I
have on my machine. We spoke about battery life, about
usability, about many things. Almost all around he
concluded the 200LX was still champ!

The real hurting point for him was that he knew something
was wrong with his productivity - it has declined since the
WinCE. Duh!

BTW: He was frantically replacing batteries somewhere over
Somewhere, USA, while I was still chugging along on my
NiMH. Am using them right now too, 2.62V.

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F. Kaufman wrote:
> > Can you run "epppd" if you have System Manager up&running?
> > I try to setup MaxDos but I've had the same symptoms.
>
> I don't use the product but sysmgr can sometimes poll the serial port
> and interfere with serial communications.  There may be some tsr's that
> can stop that.  Or you may be running low on room.  Terminating sysmgr
> may be the best option.

To stop SysMgr from interfering with the serial port, run
the app from an icon (AppMgr), and in the comments area of that icon
enter an upside down exclamation mark.

- To enter an upside down exclamation mark, press Fn-Filer
(or Fn-!).

- Note that when youuse this mechanism, you will also not
be able to switch to any other app under SysMgr.

  Avi

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Victor Roberts wrote:
> Avi,
>

> I am sorry you find this problem strange, we have discussed
> it before. I even tried to discuss it with Andreas, and was
> told "I ÝAndreas} don't know anything about Windows 95".

I can't blame him for not wanting to support the package on
a platform he does not use and does not know. I would not
_want_ his support in these circumstances :-) ...

> As I believe I also told you, when I try to run the same set
> of programs on my OB530 under pure DOS, but while using the
> QEMM memory manager, I get a message from QEMM that PE has
> made an illegal memory call. QEMM traps the illegal call on
> the 530, but there is nothing to trap the call on the 800 ,
> so I am assuming that this illegal memory call is the
> reason the 800 locks u p and also the reason that at least
> some of the BIOS settings are changed. It is not unheard of
> for a program to try to access memory outside the ra nge it
> is supposed to work in. The WWW/LX suite runs just fine on
> my 200LX an d I continue to use it there with great
> success.

Confusing a bit: Are you having problems with PE or with
WWW/LX? I use PE on the ob800Ct too and no problems as you
mention. I really think this is something that happens in
your machine due to some local issues, not something PE
does or WWW/LX does.

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<<<You sound like a prime candidate for the new Unix palm device.  I
don't know much about it but I have seen it and it looks rather
cool.>>>

I haven't heard about that one.  Tell me more.

I'm not particularly interested in unix.  I like dos.  PalmOS is ok
to play with but dos is the one I know best and basically it stays
out of my way.  When you're playing at programming that's an
important quality for an os. :)

But it might be fun to play with unix.  I have an extra laptop and
I've thought about putting linix on it.  I might enjoy it.  I did
some xenix programming lo those many years ago.  I haven't quite
decided if I want to get into something that heavy, yet.

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>Apparently it amuses `hobchi' to write in what we might call `pidgin-English'
>(or some near dialect). As a native English reader, I also find it mildly
>amusing, and somewhat of a break from the normal messages. It would be awful
>if everyone chose to do it, but since it comes only from one correspondent.
>it doesn't trouble me.
>
>It clearly does interfere with understanding by those for whom English is
>a second or third language, but apparently `hobchi' finds the amusement
>value outweighs this consideration---at least to him/her self.

As a native speaker of American English for over 50 years, I find
that hobchi's afftectations draw my attention to the *stylized
writing* and distract me from the *content* of his messages.

I therefore am less likely to read them all the way through and
simply delete instead.


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  2nd generation anesthesiologist                          Borzoi breeder
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<<<<<<1- Bugs are still being worked on the more powerful
applications
(InfoSelect notes cannot be larger than 4k, as opposed to 32k on my
palmtop.    The music programs cannot handle more than 4 voices.
The Bible programs don't do
much yet.   The other outliners cause a number of problems with
backing up.  And
on and on)>>>>

The palm applications are really pretty solid.  Not as solid as the
200lx stuff but it hasn't been around as long.  But there are a lot
of limitations.

<<<<<<2-It is very easy to lose all or much of your data on a palm
(the hotsync
issue
plus the lack of a real backup battery.    The thingy that holds
power
while
you change bateries is prone to fail).  Backup Buddy is supposed to
help,
but I still read the complaints.>>>>>>

I don't think that's really the case.  I'm learning Forth
programming on my palm and I crash it many times a day, typically.
I've yet to lose any data.

When changing batteries I've never had a problem.  I usually
hotsynch first just in case but it's always gone smoothly.  I think
stability of the OS is the only area where the Palm has the 200lx
beat.  It's very solid.

<<<<3-The Trgpro, the only palm device designed to use a flash card,
will run
down on batteries if the card is used too regularly (they say that
several times
a day of use will take your batteries down to 2 weeks of use.  I
access my cp flash
card daily and still get 6 to 8 weeks of battery life on my hplx).
And programs still
don't run from the card (that's supposed to change in may).>>>>

I use nicad batteries in my 200lx and I swap them every week or two.
I charge them externally.  I've just started doing the same thing in
the Palm except I'm using NiMH.  I'll probably switch to NiMH in the
200lx if this works out.  Swapping batteries once a week is trivial
to me.

<<<<<4-The thing is so cute, but so fragile! Yes, even the Palm v
with its
aluminum case.  I think there ought to be a way to make it
stronger.>>>>>

This is one of the weak points of the Palm, especially as compared
to the 200lx.  The 200lx is tough.  The Palm isn't.  They break when
they're dropped.  They should make them better.


<<<<5-I though a palm would not have hinge cracks problems, but it
does have
stylus receptacle crack problems!  (at least the plastic palms).>>>>

That was a problem with the early Palms but  haven't heard of it
happening for a long time.

<<<<So why look at a palm?  Small, long battery life, very small
size, and
backlight!!!  While no hplx backlight will ever touch the palm Vx
screen, it will
certainly greatly diminish my cravings for another device.>>>>

I think for most people today the 200lx is by far the better system.
The keyboard is a much faster and easier data entry device than the
pen.  There's more and better software at the moment. Much more.
It's a more powerful system by far.  I think the only people who
might like the palm better are the ones who don't need the power and
don't want the weight.

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Connectivity is the main driver behind obsolesence for the LX.  I've stopped
using the LX for email (except on the road), web  and to synch with the desktop
because it was becoming the weak link in the chain.  And surprise! ... I still
use the LX.

It's true that IrDA and new technology adds more layers of complexity, but only
if you deal with connectivity.

The LX was developed at a time when PCs were already delivering the goods for
practically every human need to record, store and collate data.  Surprising as
it may seem, we haven't evolved so much in the last 15 years, that those methods
are completely obsolete.  A text editor is still a head above pencil and paper,
and an electronic spreadsheet still beats one on paper.  Every program that's
been added for the LX (including Stefan's LXPIC and his utilities) have been
"icing on the cake" so to speak.  Tho with the connectivity issues, I'm afraid
the icing is wearing thin.

To people who need to use a PDA for email, web, and desktop synching, I'm sure
the LX will fade from your armory soon.  For those of us who has a need for a
reliable standalone computer, the LX will continue to serve much longer, tho its
eventual demise is assured, if only because it's standing still and the
competition will eventually pass it up.

The day may come when I find a computer with a better feature set than the LX,
and delivers on connectivity as well.  But until then, I say use each tool to
its best advantage, and those tools won't fail you.

- Longden





Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> on 04/16/2000 06:28:10 AM

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> I realize that there's already such a huge library of software
> available that this doesn't seem like much of a problem.  Until
> things change.

IrDA was such a change and I fear, Bluethooth will be the next.
As Andreas Garzotto showed, there are ways to implement the new
technologies, but it's far from trivial. Look at the IrDA
specifications; more than once you ask yourself, for what reason
is it done so complicated?

We reached a point, where every new technology adds more layers
of complexity instead of removing some. In my opinion, this is
the main reason for the still ongoing "software crisis".

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> <<<<5-I though a palm would not have hinge cracks problems, but it
> does have
> stylus receptacle crack problems!  (at least the plastic palms).>>>>
>
> That was a problem with the early Palms but  haven't heard of it
> happening for a long time.

the stylus with the palm v and vx is also fragile,  it has a metal tube
with plastic screwable caps that snap off frequently when dropped from
chest height to a hard floor.  annoying!

> I think for most people today the 200lx is by far the better system.
> The keyboard is a much faster and easier data entry device than the
> pen.  There's more and better software at the moment. Much more.
> It's a more powerful system by far.  I think the only people who
> might like the palm better are the ones who don't need the power and
> don't want the weight.

someone recently gave me a palm v and while it great and all, short of
the backlight the only other "feature" is that i forget i am carrying it.

At least twice this week it was in an already crowded pocket and after
a quick search decided it was on my desk or otherwise not on me.

if ever a newton the size of a palm v was released, it would be my choice
as a pen-based system, but i all too frequently find myself struggling
to input some data on the palm.  I now use the palm to get quick info
from friends and coworkers then transcribe them into my 200lx.  i'm sure
there's an easier way, but it takes me about 30 seconds to type in a
screenful of palm data.

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On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 09:18:27AM -0700, Longden Loo wrote:
> the LX will fade from your armory soon.  For those of us who has a need for a
> reliable standalone computer, the LX will continue to serve much longer, tho its
> eventual demise is assured, if only because it's standing still and the
> competition will eventually pass it up.
>
> The day may come when I find a computer with a better feature set than the LX,
> and delivers on connectivity as well.  But until then, I say use each tool to
> its best advantage, and those tools won't fail you.

if someone ever develops an ssd or telnet-ssl client for the hplx, all
my connectivity issues will be resolved.  all my email resides on a
unix server, lynx is my browser of choice (netscape of necesity for
flash, streaming, and java), and all other connectivity for me is available
once i'm on the shell.  telnet, while available, i only use in emergencies
(and then with the help of s/key)

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02h35m54s ago ...
On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Jim Saklad wrote:

> As a native speaker of American English for over 50 years, I find
> that hobchi's afftectations draw my attention to the *stylized
> writing* and distract me from the *content* of his messages.


I've got to agree with this.  We're an international group, and folks
who write in English as a second (or third or fourth) language post
messages much easier to read than "Hobchi-speak".  I'm also more
inclined to simply hit "delete" as soon as I see this gobbledegook.
It may be old fashioned and stuffy to point this out, but tha purpose
of the list is communication, not intentional obfuscation.

<end rant>

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There have been discussions in the past about what sort of swap space produces
the fastest Software Carousel swap time.  One candidate has been a contiguous
swap file on a RAM drive like the palmtop's C: drive.  Another option has been
swapping to the simulated EMS provided by drivers like Tremm.

Until recently, I have generally used a contiguous disk file on my 32 Meg C:
drive.  I use some DOS programs that take up huge amounts of EMS if it is
available.  Thus, they would tend to leave too little available for SC if I
used EMS for my swap space.  Recently my palmtop had to be repaired, which
erased all of the data.  Since I was reinstalling everything anyway, I decided
to try a new approach.  I set up a large EMS file with Tremm.  Then I rebooted
and opened all of my SC sessions once to mark all of the EMS SC needed as used.
 Then when I ran one of my EMS hungry programs, it was only able to use what
was left over from SC.  This way, I don't run out of swap space as I had before.

After all of this, I don't see a speed difference.  On my system, a contiguous
swap file is just as fast as EMS swap space.  In each case, swap time is about
one second for a 500+ K SC session in most cases.  The only exception is the
first swap after I turn the palmtop on.  That first swap takes about 3 seconds
and each swap after that is 1 second until I turn the palmtop off again.  Then
the pattern repeats.

One key point when comparing swap times to ensure that the SC disk file is
contiguous.  You have to run the optimize.exe program that came with SC first
before you have SC create its swap file.  A non-contiguous swap file is slower
than either option mentioned above.  You can confirm that the swap file is
contiguous by running d:\dos\chkdsk on the file.  First you have to use
d:\dos\attrib to remove the hidden attribute from the swap file.  Then run
chkdsk with the file name after it like:

 attrib -r -h -s ~carosel.tmp
 chkdsk ~carosel.tmp

BTW, my system is a 32Meg DS palmtop.  The swap file and EMS file were both
created on the 32 Meg drive.

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> I've been wondering since a major 200lx programmer announced that
> he's going to start developing for the palm, just how much longer
> people will be using the 200lx.

> What do y'all think about this?  Is it likely?  If so, how far away
> is it?  If not, why not?  Are we going to own ancient hobby
> machines?  Or will there be enough new software and gadgets to keep
> it going for a long time?


In short, yes the HP200LX will fade out eventually.  I don't think it will be
soon however.  I plan to be using mine for another 5 years or so.  As a bit of
perspective, the first computer I ever purchased was an Apple IIgs in 1985 or
so.  I used it exclusively as my desktop machine until around 1995.  I got a
95LX palmtop around 1993 and got my first DS 200LX around 1996.  Given my
history of 10 years per useful computer system, another 5 years for my 200LX
seems about right.

My point is that if a computer does what you need, then you don't have to give
it up to buy something new.  Use it until it doesn't serve your needs, then
look for a better option.

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I have a Rim email device and I must admit that it is nice
to be able to do email via a two way pager.
Also it syncs with my mailbox, contacts, tasks.  But it is no
replacement for the lx200.  It is kind of difficult to write on it,
and the screen is a bit difficult to view long messages.
There is no database on it either.

I would like to see a 200lx running linux with a faster processor and
more memory maybe. And a way to sync from a desktop to
the lx.

I meet so many people who look at my 200lx and say that is old and that
they have a palm.

I just ask them if they can do email, usually they say when they are
connected to their desktop.  Then I ask them if they can browse
the web, or connect via irda through a webphone to the internet
?
They usually hang their head and say no, no, no.

A couple of weeks ago I was in NY checking my mail with my lx200
preparing presentation notes on it etc.  Others were carring around
laptops to do that with.

I love the keyboard and cant stand a stylus for input.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:48:48 CDT
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Subject:      File Size Limits

Can someone explain to a non-programmer why many text editors only handle
a limited size file?

Could someone recommend a PE-styled editor which can handle files of
unlimited size?

Larry Zimmerman


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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:39:38 CDT
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Subject:      Re: Palms

If you pick up Palm Print from www.stevenscreek.com and Ir by Andreas
Garzotto from SUPER, you can beam your notes to the 200lx instead of
transcribing.

Larry Zimmerman

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:22:18 -0500 "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
writes:
>I now use the palm to get quick info from friends and coworkers then
transcribe them into my 200lx.  i'm
>sure there's an easier way, but it takes me about 30 seconds to type in
a screenful of palm data.
>
>--francois

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:24:36 -0700
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Doesnt the rim have a 386 Processor??

--- Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET> wrote:
> > I've been wondering since a major 200lx programmer
> announced that
> > he's going to start developing for the palm, just
> how much longer
> > people will be using the 200lx.
>
> > What do y'all think about this?  Is it likely?  If
> so, how far away
> > is it?  If not, why not?  Are we going to own
> ancient hobby
> > machines?  Or will there be enough new software
> and gadgets to keep
> > it going for a long time?
>
>
> In short, yes the HP200LX will fade out eventually.
> I don't think it will be
> soon however.  I plan to be using mine for another 5
> years or so.  As a bit of
> perspective, the first computer I ever purchased was
> an Apple IIgs in 1985 or
> so.  I used it exclusively as my desktop machine
> until around 1995.  I got a
> 95LX palmtop around 1993 and got my first DS 200LX
> around 1996.  Given my
> history of 10 years per useful computer system,
> another 5 years for my 200LX
> seems about right.
>
> My point is that if a computer does what you need,
> then you don't have to give
> it up to buy something new.  Use it until it doesn't
> serve your needs, then
> look for a better option.
>
> Steve Carder
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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:56:17 +0200
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Subject:      Re: reverse polarity in power supply.
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hello Mark and company,

now I started to be really curious, and took a power supply with
voltage and current control (such a big one with many plugs and
knobs) and I connected it to my HP200LX in reverse polarity.
There was no current flowing. Maybe there is already a protection
diode built in my unit. Maybe there are differences in the units that
have been produced. Or my unit was modified, when they made the
RAM upgrade, who knows. I could look inside, but when I had to
open it once, (I had to repair a dislocated hinge) it was so difficult to
put everything in its place again, that measuring is enough
challenge for me now.
For _my_  palmtop I am pretty sure, that it is not altered by a wrong
polarity power supply.

regards,
Werner


Am 14 Apr 2000, um  23:45, schrieb Automatic digest processor ueber
"HPLX-L Digest - 13 Apr 2000 to 14 Apr 2000 - Spec":

> Date:    Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:13:16 -0700
> From:    Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
> Subject: Re: reversed polarity was: power supply
>
> About the only solution is to add a power diode between the HP's power
> input jack and motherboard, in series with the correct enamelled wire
> that's already there - so, if you plug in a backwards power supply, you
> don't see any power coming from the plug to the HP.  (I'd use a Schottky
> diode, and add a half volt to the power plug if needed to compensate for
> the half-volt voltage drop you'd then get.)
>
> I haven't looked at this (need more used HP's to play with!), I can
> probably do this.  I'll look into it, next used machine I get.  It'd be
> pretty cheap to fix.
>
> Another alternative is to put a diode backwards, across the power leads,
> but then you might melt the enamelled wires from the plug to the
> motherboard if you plugged in a suplpy backwards - Doubt you want THAT!
> <G>
>
>   Mark
>
> Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> > hello Stan, David and the list,
> >
> > and how can I know if my HP200 LX tolerates a fault in polarity?
> > As I mentioned before, I use my switcher power supply for more than
> > one unit and I might be wrong with the polarity one day by accident.
> >
> > :~o
> > Werner
> >
> > On 14 Apr 2000, at 5:10, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> >
> > > > was intended to operate.  On lesser machines, reverse polarity
> > > > would burn up the unit.  Don't put reverse polarity into the HP
> > > > palmtop.
> > >
> > > And, in fact, I've seen palmtops that couldn't handle it and had
> > > their ability to handle external power at all completely destroyed
> > > by plugging in a reverse-polarity plug.  That user was pretty
> > > unhappy, and had to run on batteries alone until he could replace
> > > his motherboard.  Don't let it happen to you ...
> > >



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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:56:04 -0400
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Here's an idea that may be of value to some of you.  I use "Mind-it"
to monitor web pages like Curtis Cameron's site to warn me when
something changes.  The Super site would be another good choice.

  http://mindit.netmind.com/

cheers... Russ

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Yes, that is what I have been told.

Regards,

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:56:51 -0400
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> Can someone explain to a non-programmer why many text editors only handle
> a limited size file?
>
> Could someone recommend a PE-styled editor which can handle files of
> unlimited size?
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>

I'll take a crack at that, Larry, although I'm sure I'll miss some of the
reasons.

First, there is a general issue of whether the text to be edited is assumed
to fit in memory while it is being edited. Indeed, until relatively recently
in our computational history there was a very substantial distinction between
assuming that the text would fit into a single data structure within memory
or not. When I started writing code for computers, 64K was a lot of memory,
and data structures were often limited to 16K or 32K (note, please, I _do_
indeed mean K, here, not M). You could, of course, handle files of arbitrary
size even in these early days, but that required regularly moving data into
and out of memory, and that was sometimes a rather time consuming operation.

So this points to the second reason, and interaction between implementation
language the kind of things that it makes it easy to do. I grew up in an
age when lots of character processing was done in FORTRAN. Suffice it to say
that FORTRAN didn't have any particular facilities that would make handling
text easy. Early editors were often implemented in Basic, and in that world
simple tasks like reforming a paragraph might involve a whole bunch of
LEFT$ and RIGHT$ operations to pull words off one line and add them to the
next.

Third, there can be a strong interaction between the internal data
representations chosen for text and the kind of facilities that this makes
available to the users. For example, I continue to use a particular editor that
I bought from one of IBM's first retail stores (on 5th Ave, NYC) in the
early 80s. It makes moving rectangular `blocks' of text around very easy. It
happens to do  this by internally treating every line as though it were 256
characters long.  This makes operations on rectangular blocks easy, but imposes
a _severe_  limitation on the text that can be handled. In most cases this is a
price I am  happy to pay, so I generally use this editor, and drop into EMacs
whenever I need to deal with a file with extra long lines, or of extra huge
size.

So I guess the point is that program design, like any other `economic' activity
involves trading off how much work you have to do, how much time it takes to
do it and what it all ends up by doing to the user.

Admittedly, as my `cheap' machine now has 380Meg of Ram and 30Gb of Hard disk,
it seems funny for an editor to say `out of memory' when handling a file of
a few megabytes, but when this happens one might look back and realize that
most editors now in use were designed and implemented when technology involved
very different cost structures.

All-in-all my 20yr old editor stands up pretty well in day-to-day use, and
I know that it continues to be used by a whole bunch of my colleagues, who
have been happy with it in the 80s and 90s as they were with TECO in the 60s
and 70s.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:41:28 CDT
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Subject:      Acoustic Coupler

Has anyone here had experience with the Konexx 204 acoustic coupler?
I've ordered a Backflip for the PalmIII (acoustic modem for PocketMail
service) on the advice of an RVer and would like something similar for
the 200lx.  I'm just looking for email so it doesn't need to be
astoundingly fast.

Basically, I'm just wondering how well it works with payphones, hotel
phones, and phones in noisy airports.  I'd be using it with a Megahertz
14.4 XJack on the 200lx and (!gasp!) a Compaq C120 WinCE unit.

TIA for reviews, recommendations, and warnings.

Larry Zimmerman

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> I didn't see my message come through before ... did it?
>
> hplx.net is undergoing some more technical problems

Coke instead of orange juice? (gd&r)

> today.  Sorry for the inconvenience, everybody.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:04:03 +0000
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This comment was with regards to a RIM having
an 80386.
Sorry for the confusion.
Tim

> Yes, that is what I have been told.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Kelley
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You either have to be from Chicago, the Bronx or Taiwan! Can't figure it
out from your email address, but I enjoy your writing and
spelling-soitenly uneek! You ought to write a book in the same style.
You might sell lots!

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hobchi wrote:
>
>   Also, are there any
> > little rubber plugs available to keep dirt/dust out of
> > the ext. power & port conn. holes?
> >
> I have never seen dese or anyone one mention dem.
> I never thought anyone konsidered them.  Since I
> travel a lot and never use the recesses on the road,
> I think they are practical and at times a necessity.
> So I jerry rigged one and it woiks fine.
>
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Steve -

>  After all of this, I don't see a speed difference.  On my system, a
>contiguous
>  swap file is just as fast as EMS swap space.  In each case, swap
>time is about
>  one second for a 500+ K SC session in most cases.  The only exception is the
>  first swap after I turn the palmtop on.  That first swap takes
>about 3 seconds
>  and each swap after that is 1 second until I turn the palmtop off again.

How much EMS (or what size swap file) do you actually use?

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You can download Turbo C from http://community.borland.com

Leong

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Date:       4/13/00 10:48 PM

Having retired I don't use my palmtop for anything serious except
that I use the phone book app for phone numbers and the database for
internet passwords.

The things I really need are:

Turbo C
Tasm
TSE jr.
Symdeb
Link and Tlink
make
mapsym
QuickBasic
and I think Forth is going to become important.  I'm learning it.

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:19:38 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@shot.org>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Palms


> the stylus with the palm v and vx is also fragile,  it has a metal
tube
> with plastic screwable caps that snap off frequently when dropped
from
> chest height to a hard floor.  annoying!

Is that a different stylus than the Palm 3x and 3c have?  I have one
of each and the stylus on those is quite sturdy.

> if ever a newton the size of a palm v was released, it would be my
choice
> as a pen-based system, but i all too frequently find myself
struggling
> to input some data on the palm.  I now use the palm to get quick
info
> from friends and coworkers then transcribe them into my 200lx.
i'm sure
> there's an easier way, but it takes me about 30 seconds to type in
a
> screenful of palm data.

I find the keyboard entry faster on the 200lx than the Grafitti on
the Palm.  More so when I'm in a hurry.  I seem to screw up Grafitti
badly when I get in a hurry.  So instead I usually write things
freehand in TealPaint and then enter them in Grafitti later.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:58:57 -0400
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There is another program, SETIT, by Larry Tachna, that sets
CGA mode, zooms, and a whole lot of other stuff--manages
charging, serial port, timeout, et al.

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<<Can someone explain to a non-programmer why many text editors
only handle
a limited size file?>>>>>

Most dos editors limit the filesize to what can be done in available
memory.  A few of the smaller ones limit the filesize to what can be
done in a single memory segment.  I don't want to get into a long
explanation of segments but basically the dos cpu's can be thought
of as a lot of 64k segments.  Anything larger than a segment is a
little harder and slower to deal with.

Most editors accept the segment difficulties but use available
memory as a limit.

At any given time you have nearly instant access to the text in
memory and a little slower access to the text on disk, assuming that
the file is bigger than available memory.  You can't see text or
scroll through it until it's in the program's memory.

If the file is partly on disk, and you're scrolling through it
quickly, it's tricky to keep up with the user and not make him wait
for more data to load.  Especially on older, slower computers.  And
especially if he keeps on scrolling.  How much data to load?  If
it's not enough and he keeps scrolling he'll have to wait some
more.  If it's a lot and he starts scrolling backwards he'll have to
wait some more.

This is just an example of some of the problems that come from
having files larger than available memory.  It can get pretty tricky
and slow things down.

And all of the memory can't be allocated to text.  Some has to be
used for copy buffers.  Some has to be used for keeping information
internally on what the program is doing.  Some has to be used to
store undo information.  Generally less than half the available
memory is used for text, about the same amount for copy buffers, and
the rest is used internally by the program.

In windows I think most editors avoid that problem by allocating as
much memory as is needed for any given file, whether that memory is
available or not.  The OS, with the help of some special hardware in
the cpu, will handle swapping and paging to disk pretty efficiently,
effectively using disk as additional memory without the program ever
knowing about it.  But that's still much slower than having it all
in actual memory.

Dos doesn't support file swapping and paging and neither does the
cpu in dos.  So the program is on it's own.

Also in the early days of PC's a really large file was pretty
unusual.  They came along but not that often.

I think Dos's edit will handle files of any size but I'm not sure of
that.  I do know dos's edlin will handle files of any size.  Or at
least any size you could get on a disk in the days when edlin was in
use.

A dramatic example of this was when I used WordPerfect on a Data
General minicomputer with about 32 meg of ram divided among about
400 users.  I occasionally had to load a 40 or 50 meg file into WP
and if the system was getting a lot of use by a lot of users that
could take 2 hours.  Then, if I was forgetful and hit end down to go
to the bottom of the document, it took another 2 hours.  A text
search could take longer.

When the system wasn't being used that much it would still take 15
minutes or more.  But early in the morning or late at night when I
was the only one on the system and I had all the memory available to
me, it could do it in less than a minute.

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:14:08 -0700
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Acoustic Coupler
Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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I have one. It is ok for checking email but nothing else.
Claims to support only up to
2400b but works ok with my megahertz 14.4 xjack.
Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> Has anyone here had experience with the Konexx 204 acoustic coupler?
> I've ordered a Backflip for the PalmIII (acoustic modem for PocketMail
> service) on the advice of an RVer and would like something similar for
> the 200lx.  I'm just looking for email so it doesn't need to be
> astoundingly fast.
>
> Basically, I'm just wondering how well it works with payphones, hotel
> phones, and phones in noisy airports.  I'd be using it with a Megahertz
> 14.4 XJack on the 200lx and (!gasp!) a Compaq C120 WinCE unit.
>
> TIA for reviews, recommendations, and warnings.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
> Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 01:25:54 -0400
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From:         George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
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> > - CheckFree
> >   + pays all my bills and tracks all my other checks
>
> Is this version still available? I'd love to work my checks
> on the palmtop!

I'm not sure. Checkfree's phone number in the U.S. is
800-297-3180 or 614-564-3500.  The latest DOS version is
Version 3.0 Release 5.  They still support it.
>
> > - WWW/LX with POST & HV
> >   + with this and CheckFree, I don't need a desktop PC!
>
> Oh, you mean you Checkfree is used off the web, or it is
> just both are useful to you?

No, I just mean that these 2 are the most useful PC applications
I have ever had.  I'm not sure I'd trust a Web app to pay my
bills (like paymybills.com)--too much security risk, I fear.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:00:28 +0200
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              retained.
From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Apr 2000 to 15 Apr 2000 (#2000-135)
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On Sunday, 16.04.2000 at 15:56 GMT, Barry  wrote:

>
It would be great if you could find a way to change the subject line of
your posts to something relevant. The number of messages per day in this
discussion list is so high that I frequently need to preselect the massages
I want to look at by subject. I understand that it may be difficult to
change the subject if you're replying from the digest but you risk that
people might just throw your messages away on a busy day because the
subject doesn't show if the message may be relevant or not.

Regards,
Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:18:35 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Printing from Software Carousel - list of favourites
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Hi Larry,

Software Carousel should make no problems when printing out of a DOS
application. Just print out of an appllication as you didn't use
Software Carousel.

I've made a batch file PRINT.BAT that does the following:

* if called WITH a file name of a text file to print as parameter:

  1. it calls SETCOM1.COM (by Stefan Peichl: peichl.hplx.net), which sets
  the COM port to a special mode (in my case: 115200,n,8,1,wired - you
  can let SETCOM1 set your serial port to whatever you need for your
  serial -> parallel converter)

  2. It copies the given file to COM1 to print it.

  3. It sets the COM port via SETCOM1 to off (for power saving).

* if called without parameter:

  it only performs step 1 of the above (i.e. Sets the COM port).

  After that I can start an application I want to print from, or I can
  run PRINT.BAT from a DOS shell from out of the program I want to
  print from, and then I can let the app. print to either PRN, COM1 or
  LPT1 (all are hardware-redirected to COM1 in the palmtop).

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:36:40 -0700, Lawrence Fast <lfast@NATIVELAW.COM> wrote:

> Can anyone on the list provide guidance on how to setup Software Carousel
> to print through the HP serial cable?  I have a functioning serial to
> parallel converter and have setup my programmes to print through the serial
> port.  My Software Carousel manual is of no assistance on this issue.
>
> Until last week I simply transferred my data via my HP200LX's flashcard
> over to my laptop and then printed out the material.  Alas, my laptop is
> out of action for a couple of months but I am not - and I still need to
> print materials created on my palmtop.
>
> The printers which I use are HP IIP lazerjet compatible.  The software I
> regularly use includes the following (my list of favourites):
>
> 1.  the built in apps
> 2.  Grandview
> 3.  Agenda
> 4.  Quattro Pro
> 5.  Personal Food Analyst
> 6.  WordPerfect 5.1
> 7.  Paradox 3.5
> 8.  Vertical Reader
> 9.  Success (A Canadian loan and mortgage calculation programme)
> 10. Framework III
>
> Many thanks for your assistance!!
>
> Larry Fast
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:07:14 -0400
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              Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG>
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Does WWW/LX - Post have any way to filter/redirect incoming email?  My
business emails keep getting lost amongst the HPLX mail.  Would like to
automatically send HPLX to different folder.  Thanks

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:15:57 -0500
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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I had been getting interrupt error baud rate set too high? Message.  In
preparation for a low power pcmcia modem I moved post lx to the c: drive.
The errors cleared up.  So my conclusion is that the a: drive was not fast
enought to process the incoming data.  I didn't have the errors with my 56k
modem though.  But I am wondering if it had a built in buffer that
compensated for the slow a: drive?
Any thoughts?

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:03:36 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Jean-Michel FROUIN wrote:

>Is there a text editor that can help me to write math equtions on my Hp
100lx?
>Thanks in advance

WordPerfect 5.1 has a capable equation editor.
It produces very good looking output.  But, it
is slow to create things as it is a very manual
process of writing out commands to place items.
It does not solve equations but is for publication
only.

Steve

P.S.
 David Ness wrote:
>The (d) folks have been here and have already gone. They aren't coming back.

Pity, thats the group I most closely resemble...

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:19:07 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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>>I'm not particularly interested in unix.  I like dos.

if you like DOS you will LOVE unix same cryptic command lines only more so
<g> it really is a programmers OS

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Hi,

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 09:21:10 -0400, David Ness <DNess@Home.Com> wrote:

> I think there is a discussion of this somewhere back in the archives.
> Apparently it amuses `hobchi' to write in what we might call `pidgin-English'
> ...
> to go about uninformed. In any particular case if you think you are missing
> something, just ask and someone will surely `translate' the remarks into
> English...

I've no difficulties understanding Al's 'pidgin-English'. It's easy for
me to understand, because he writes everything similar to how it's
spoken.

I just was curious.
:-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:35:04 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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>>There is another program, SETIT, by Larry Tachna, that sets
>>CGA mode, zooms, and a whole lot of other stuff--manages
>>charging, serial port, timeout, et al.

thanks for the plug. I sent out about 6 copies of that program anybody care
to comment on it, like it? hate it? why? missing features? too many
features? there is also a version that mimics a system manager app called
ppal.exe. I also have a program that helps make mailing list files for
POST\LX ie; lets you pick mail address's from a list and saves them to a new
file that can be used as a mailing list file for POST/LX

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:38:17 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Steve Novosad wrote:

> Jean-Michel FROUIN wrote:
>
> >Is there a text editor that can help me to write math equtions on my Hp
> 100lx?
>
> WordPerfect 5.1 has a capable equation editor. It produces very
> good looking output.  But, it is slow to create things as it is
> a very manual process of writing out commands to place items. It
> does not solve equations but is for publication only.

Agree on both points--the output is great and the input is slow.
The syntax was definitely not intuitive for me and had quite a
steep learning curve.

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:13:11 -0500
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George
I'm in agreement with you concerning the utility of the built in
applications. They are not as good as some add-on options but they are
much more resistant to the ham fisted operator (me). Since they are burned
into the chip I know that they will continue to function no matter what I
do to the machine.
I would like to know more about Check Free, I'd love to have my finances
on the palmtop.

Andrew King
IIT Physics, Chicago
312-567-3021
technology is the answer, what was the question

PS: Not sure about VI as an editor, definately one of the most
user-unfriendly programs I have ever run across. I guess that's what
separates users from programmers....
I'll just stick with memo, it's quite sufficient for my needs (buggering
up my autoexec file..)



Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 01:57:08 -0400
From: George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?

In order of importance:
- All the built-in Apps
  + gotta have a PIM, powerful Calculator and LOTUS 123
- CheckFree
  + pays all my bills and tracks all my other checks
- WWW/LX with POST & HV
  + with this and CheckFree, I don't need a desktop PC!
- A UNIX-like shell

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Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:13:48 -0500 (EST)

Greetings:

   I will be on 2 International trips in the coming months, and would
   like to seek the advice of native residents & road warriors alike. I
   will be in Rome last week of June & in Cambridge UK first week of
   August. I will bring a Laptop (OB800CT) on the UK trip, but probably
   not on the Rome trip if I can avoid it. I have a CIS account And I
   note there is a local CIS# for Rome. There appears to be some for UK
   as well, but I can't tell if it is "local" or not(0 0845 080 1000).

   I'm usually on-line ~30min a day managing this list among other
   activities...mostly EMail.

   Is CIS a viable option in both locals? I have found that CIS
   connections at some domestic(US) dial-ups can be "tempermental".

   Are there any recommended "FreeNet" services in these areas? Or
   reliable fee for service with local #s?

   Aside: I am told that using a US Calling Card can be a costly
   experience overseas, and was recommended to purchase a local calling
   card when I arrive. If I have my OB800, I assume I could use a
   Net-2-Phone service, has anyone experience with these? Are they
   reliable? Cost effective?

   aTdHvAaNnKcSe...AJKind


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----- Original Message -----
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To: <undisclosed-recipients:;>; "HPLX Mailing List"
<HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 4:00 AM
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> >
> It would be great if you could find a way to change the subject
line of
> your posts to something relevant. The number of messages per day
in this
> discussion list is so high that I frequently need to preselect the
massages
> I want to look at by subject. I understand that it may be
difficult to
> change the subject if you're replying from the digest but you risk
that
> people might just throw your messages away on a busy day because
the
> subject doesn't show if the message may be relevant or not.

I'm aware of this problem and I do try to remember to do this.  I am
getting the digest and I have always been pretty absent minded.  But
I'm working on that and over time it gets better.  I used to always
forget.  Now I forget less than half the time.

Barry

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
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>
>
> >>I'm not particularly interested in unix.  I like dos.
>
> if you like DOS you will LOVE unix same cryptic command lines only
more so
> <g> it really is a programmers OS

I've been there.  I did some xenix programming years ago.  I did
like it.  But now the learning curve will be steep and I'm not sure
what my motivation would be.

I do have djgpp set up on an old laptop and I've been playing with
it and allegro.  They're pretty good.  As I learn more about them
I'll probably use them more and more.

I guess part of it is that I don't want to mess with the os.  I just
want it to stay out of my way while I program.  Dos does that.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:40:26 -0500
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> You quoted Barry's message intact, but added nothing. I
> would be curious to read what you really meant to say.

Well, thanks--I'll go ahead and write something since you seem
to have some degree of confidence it would be worthwhile.  :)

I had started to write a reply and then changed my mind.  I forgot
to delete the unedited e-mail from my outbox, and the next time I
dialed up, there it went.  Oops.  Mea culpa.

First, I wanted to say the word is "wither," not "whither."  As
living things lose life, they wither.  Whither is more along the
lines of "where."

Now, on to Barry's e-mail:

> > > I think we all know there's nothing that can really replace it but
> > > the palm is pretty good and it has very large audience and will
> > > probably attract more and more pda programmmers.  When we reach the
> > > point where there's not much new software for the 200lx anymore,
> > > what then?

I don't think the lack of new software is an issue.  I believe the
HP200LX and its currently available software is best described as
mature.  Just because contemporary commercial software developers
continually crank out updates doesn't mean that approach is
required for getting everyone's job done.  I use a pentium desktop
with Win95 at work, but on the road I rely exclusively on my LX.
Granted, I can't generate complex data collection forms in Corel
Draw on my LX, but I can do a tolerable job of just about everything
else, and the graphics work can wait until I get back to the office.
Bottom line, my 200LX currently does everything I want it to.

Barry's point regarding protocol changes is valid--when LXTCP stops
working with current protocols we'll have some work to do.  We have
the source, though.  And I bet that would be a project Rod would be
willing to offer help on, if not actively support.

Anyway, my 200LX is my main computer and I don't see that changing
for several years at least.

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:48:14 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends

I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a LaTeX
document.
Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other format,
especially PS, EPS of TIFF?

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:48:16 +0200
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Hi Robert,

yes, Post/LX (the email program for WWW/LX) suports filters. You can
define a filter that, for example, redirects all email that went to
HPLX-L into one special folder (if I recall coRectly, such a filter is
even prodefined when you purchase WWW/LX.)

I have several filters, that sort my email into folders:

- HPLX-L
- Stockwatch (a daily service that lists a virtual stock depot)
- the monthly or weekly newletters from GMX (my mail service) and other
services

and a few more. Works perfectly!

GTX
daniel

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:07:14 -0400, Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG> wrote:

> Does WWW/LX - Post have any way to filter/redirect incoming email?  My
> business emails keep getting lost amongst the HPLX mail.  Would like to
> automatically send HPLX to different folder.  Thanks
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:23:38 +0100
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:37:25 -0400, Albert Kind wrote:

>   I will be on 2 International trips in the coming months, and would
>   like to seek the advice of native residents & road warriors alike. I
>   will be in Rome last week of June & in Cambridge UK first week of
>   August. I will bring a Laptop (OB800CT) on the UK trip, but probably
>   not on the Rome trip if I can avoid it. I have a CIS account And I
>   note there is a local CIS# for Rome. There appears to be some for UK
>   as well, but I can't tell if it is "local" or not(0 0845 080 1000).

0845 numbers are local rate in the UK - that means around 2p a minute
weekdays and 1p a minute at weekends. However, be aware that hotels
(especially the bigger and better ones) will load the cost dramatically. =
A
domestic line will be a much better bet if you can get to one.

>   I'm usually on-line ~30min a day managing this list among other
>   activities...mostly EMail.
>
>   Is CIS a viable option in both locals? I have found that CIS
>   connections at some domestic(US) dial-ups can be "tempermental".

I only used the UK CIS for a short period to test the account I set up =
for
our trip to the US when we met up with you. I did find it perfectly
reliable for those few tries though. Actually, I hear of very few =
problems
with UK ISPs in general.

>   Are there any recommended "FreeNet" services in these areas? Or
>   reliable fee for service with local #s?

If you mean ISPs which don't charge monthly fees, we have loads of them. =
We
did start the idea over here :)  I have an account with Freeserve, which =
I
set up just to get some extra web space. Check out their web site at
www.freeserve.net and set yourself up with an account - you may need to
tell a story or two to convince the system you are a UK resident, but if =
so
let me know and I'll drop you a suitable post code etc.

--=20
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Could never get it to work on my machine... it uses IRQ 10 or 15.

Philippe


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> Ran across this on Ebay. Says it supports HP-SIR!
> eBay item 305457993 (Ends Apr-17-00 08:10:58 PDT) - IBM ISA
> Bus Serial Infrared Adapter
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Great story!

I would make one point, though.

There have been two occasions when I've demo'd my 200LX to
someone who's said, "Stop! I want one. Where do I get it". I
had to admit that although they could buy one, it would cost
about $1500 and quite a bit of messing around to bring it to
the spec of the one they'd just seen - RAM upgrade,
doublespeed, largeish CF card, and tons of commercial
software. Plus, the ease of use we take for granted, built on
years of familiarity and piecemeal expansion.

I'm not sure I'd want to be competing against a stock 680 using
a stock 200. Just playing the devil's advocate here, because
you know I agree with every word you've written. :-)

OK, two points... ;-)

Of course the 200LX will die, nothing lasts forever.
200LX =3D The Great Pyramid at El Giza
WinCE =3D The Millennium Dome at Grenwich
I think it helps to be English to understand that.

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> On the plane from JFK to LAX today, my neighbour sported a
> Wince 680. He told me he used the 200LX before. He told me
> that his WinCE runs circles around the >00LX, that his chip
> is faster bla bla bla... Finally I asked him to devise
> three tests, and compare. He thought it was a great idea. I
> beat him on all three tests with a huge margin.

Ýsnip¨

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> On the plane from JFK to LAX today, my neighbour sported a Wince 680.
> He told me he used the 200LX before. He told me that his WinCE runs
> circles around the 200LX, that his chip is faster bla bla bla...
> Finally I asked him to devise three tests, and compare. He thought it
> was a great idea. I beat him on all three tests with a huge margin.

All right!  Way to go, Avi.  So what were the tests?

I got a Jornada 680 a few months ago, and it's definitely no replacement
for my 200LX.  However, it makes an excellent COMPANION to the 200LX.
With both of them together, I can do most everything I want -- serious
business like word processing, finances, spreadsheets, time tracking,
reference materials, reading e-texts <g>, etc. on the 200LX, and stuff
like wireless internet access, secure communications, and other
applications (like Pocket Streets) on the J680.  It makes an excellent
complement to the 200LX ... even though the battery doesn't last nearly as
long.

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Albert Kind wrote:
>    I'm usually on-line ~30min a day managing this list among other
>    activities...mostly EMail.
>
>    Is CIS a viable option in both locals? I have found that CIS
>    connections at some domestic(US) dial-ups can be "tempermental".

Used CIS in about 15 countries, no troubles. A friend used
it in Africa in several countries, mostly ok. The UK number
covers all UK.

>    Are there any recommended "FreeNet" services in these areas? Or
>    reliable fee for service with local #s?

Don't bother!

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I completely identify with the lack of enthusiasm for
testing on the machine which is used for real work and
productivity! :)

It'll be mighty hard to duplicate and fix what you say
happens, of course.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

Victor Roberts wrote:
> Avi,
>
> One more important detail. I run a number of DOS programs on my 800 under
>
> Win95 and the WWW/LX suite is the ONLY, let me repeat that, the ONLY
> program that has EVER had this type of problem with my 800CT. So, from
> where I sit, which I understand is different than where you sit, there is
>
> something "special" about some part of the WWW/LX suite.
>
> Also - I really have no interest in conducting any tests. When WWW/LX (or
>
> its "friends") have locked up this 800CT, it was so bad that I initially
> could not recover even with a hard reset. (Due to the setup changes.) I
> need this machine. I have no interest in going through a lockup again
> unless you can identify some SPECIFIC things that may be going wrong. I
> will not do random "try this" testing on my 800CT.
>
> Vic
>
> ----Forwarded Message(s)----
>
>  #: 6002 (C) S0/CompuServe Mail  ÝMAIL¨
>      17-Apr-00  08:11:56
>  Sb: DOS Program
>  Fm: Victor Roberts 70413,1423
>  To: A Meshar > INTERNET:sponsor@ftel.net
>
> >>Confusing a bit: Are you having problems with PE or with WWW/LX? I use
> PE
> on the ob800Ct too and no problems as you mention. I really think this is
>
> something that happens in your machine due to some local issues, not
> something PE does or WWW/LX does. <<
>
> Because of this problem, It has been at least 6 months since I have run t
> he
> WWW/LX suite on my 800. If my memory is correct, the problem would occur
> when WWW/LX or POST/LX failed to connect. It definitely has something to
> do
> with the need for PALRUN, since the problem seems to occur as the video
> mode is being switched.
>
> I will have to retest on the 530 to give you an answer for that platform.
>
> Vic
>
> ÝTAPCIS: Message was sent to 1 address¨
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:39:33 -0700
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Robert Edson wrote:
> Does WWW/LX - Post have any way to filter/redirect incoming email?  My
> business emails keep getting lost amongst the HPLX mail.  Would like to
> automatically send HPLX to different folder.  Thanks

Yes. There is a good size description in the Help Topics
which I do not want to repeat here.. You can filter exactly
as you describe, based on content. I do this all the time.

  Avi

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Interesting results. When I get these messages I usually
slow down the communication link and that clears it up too.
It is no rocket science, the speed at which stuff comes in
is too much for the program to keep up, so it complains. It
could be indeed the A: drive.

I suspect the 56 modem simply adjusted and slowed itself
down.

  Avi

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Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com



Kelley, Timothy P wrote:
> I had been getting interrupt error baud rate set too high? Message.  In
> preparation for a low power pcmcia modem I moved post lx to the c: drive.
> The errors cleared up.  So my conclusion is that the a: drive was not fast
> enought to process the incoming data.  I didn't have the errors with my 56k
> modem though.  But I am wondering if it had a built in buffer that
> compensated for the slow a: drive?
> Any thoughts?

>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Kelley
> GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
> 713-432-2036
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Vic,

We seem to have a moving target here. First it was WWW/LX
then you wrote quite a bit on PE. Another moving target
issue is that you originally posted on OB 800CT, now you
are talking about 530.

Let's stabilize on one item only at a time so we do not
lose sanity (at least myself) :-) ...

I do not have a 530 so I cannot relate at all, nor help in
any way... I use PE and I use WWW/LX on the HP OB800Ct, so
I can relate to that.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

Victor Roberts wrote:
> >>Confusing a bit: Are you having problems with PE or with WWW/LX? I use
> PE
> on the ob800Ct too and no problems as you mention. I really think this is
>
> something that happens in your machine due to some local issues, not
> something PE does or WWW/LX does. <<
>
> Because of this problem, It has been at least 6 months since I have run t
> he
> WWW/LX suite on my 800. If my memory is correct, the problem would occur
> when WWW/LX or POST/LX failed to connect. It definitely has something to
> do
> with the need for PALRUN, since the problem seems to occur as the video
> mode is being switched.
>
> I will have to retest on the 530 to give you an answer for that platform.
>
> Vic
>

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:59:30 -0700
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I guess there have been multiple discussions for this travel tips
but I never paid attention until I need this info for my friend..

My friend (he is in US now) is traveling to Germany and he is wondering
what kind of options he has for being connected to the internet for
reading e-mails. Any suggestions? Here are a few details:

        - He will stay Westin Grand Hotel in Berlin where the hotel
        provides data port in the guest room. But he is not sure whether
        that port is compatible to the one he uses in US.

        - He will also stay in a private residence in Hamburg for a few
        days and the same question as above.

He is even thinking of making international phone calls to his e-mail
account in our University, but I hope there is a cheaper way. I tried
to download and install one of the German free ISP software but no
success on my NT machine...

Thank you in advance!

Donglok Kim

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Earlier, I asked about establishing a serial connection between 200LX and desktop PC at baud rates higher than 57.6k.  Several people suggested trying X-Finder instead of TransFile Win200.

         -- by the way, thanks for extolling the the many other virtues
            of X-Finder.  I've begun using it, and I like it quite a lot.

Unfortunately, my X-Finder transfer rates (real throughput) are SLOWER than TransFile Win200, even though the baud rate is supposedly double (115200 vs. 57600).

What kind of transfer rates do you see?

I'm concerned with REAL THROUGHPUT -- true bytes/second moved between the machines.  You never reach 100% of the link speed due to protocol overhead, but what I'm seeing just doesn't make sense.

With TransFile set to 57600 bps (max link speed of 5.625KB/s at theoretical Ýunachievable¨ 100% efficiency), I get about 2.82KB/s real throughput, or ~50% of link speed.

With X-Finder set to 115200 bps, Wide or Ultra mode, and Halfrate OFF (max link speed of 11.25KB/s at theoretical Ýunachievable¨ 100% efficiency), I get only 1.39KB/s throughput, or ~12% of link speed!

Typically, file transfer protocols like this suffer further efficiency degradation  when transferring large numbers of small files.  There is simply more overhead involved to "set up" prior to transferring each file.  So to remove this overhead, I test transferred a single 38,460 byte file using both TransFile Win200, and X-Finder.

All tests were conducted with the palmtop plugged in, and ONLY Filer or X-Finder (as appropriate) running during the test.  All tests were multiple times;  "elapsed time" represents the average runtime.  X-Finder and XFS were both in "Wide or Ultra" mode, with Half speed OFF.  I'm using the official HP serial cable that shipped with the 200LX ConnPack.  Here are the test details:

Copy single file, file size 39,460:

                  link     elapsed      effective          protocol
                 speed        time     throughput        efficiency
                 (bps)       (sec)         (KB/s)     (%link speed)
               -------     -------     ----------     -------------
TransFile      57,600          12       3.13KB/s              ~50%
X-Finder      115,200          27       1.39KB/s              ~12%

Note that these figures are consistent with respect to what I see on a longer copy operation -- say backing up the palmtop's C: drive to the desktop PC.  Of course, efficiency is slightly reduced when measuring across several files, as opposed to measuring throughput on one file start to finish.

Is the protocol used by X-Finder + XFS inherently less efficient than that used by Filer and Connectivity Pack (and TransFile)?

Do I have a setup problem?



Other Notes
-----------
I'm running WinNT 4.0 (service pack 6) on a dual processor PIII-550.  XFS and TransFile thus run emulated within NT.  I've played with all the "DOS box settings" to try and get XFS running faster, but to no avail.  I've even altered the task priority for XFS, but that also does not affect the throughput.

On the palmtop, X-Finder is installed in A:\FINDER, where A: is a ÝSTACKED!¨ 20M flash disk (official HP/SanDisk).  (The file copied resided on the palmtop's C: drive, and was copied to the desktop's C: drive.  Neither of those C: drives is compressed.  The desktop machine was doing nothing else during transfers.)

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Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:25:01 -0400
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>
> Does WWW/LX - Post have any way to filter/redirect incoming email?  My
> business emails keep getting lost amongst the HPLX mail.  Would like to
> automatically send HPLX to different folder.  Thanks

See the doc's of WWW/LX on filtering and my setup in POST.CFG below:


ÝFILTER¨
pimlist=pimfold
cmsig=folcmsig
cpim=foldcpim
hplx=hplx
lean=lean
dabeta=dabeta

Ýhplx¨
Alias=HPLX Mailing List
Sep=0
Dir=c:\mail
Sets=asnm
To=HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@CONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Box=Mail
Wrote=%s wrote:


This filters e-mails from e.g. the HPLX list into a folder Ýhplx¨.

HTH

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:47:34 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Plugs
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 Herr Hertrich,
        We English speakers (especially the American sort) have no particular
reason for our syntax or spelling standards.
Just FYI, and if you ever were asked about why your missives are
spelled/stated unusually.

Mike.

At 09:21 AM 4/16/00 +0200, you wrote:
>
>Hi Al,
>
>On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:04:05 -0700, hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>> I have never seen dese or anyone one mention dem.
>> I never thought anyone konsidered them.  Since I
>> travel a lot and never use the recesses on the road,
>> I think they are practical and at times a necessity.
>> So I jerry rigged one and it woiks fine.
>
>Sorry if the question is dumb, but - why do you write so strangely? Is
>it something like a dialect or a kind of slang or just for fun?
>
>I as a German don't know the internal secrets of the English language,
>so I cannot imagine the reason. :-)
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
>--
>
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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:16:58 +0200
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I'm finally settled and connected at my new apartment (for anyone waiting
for e-mail from me). I have a loose plug (female part on the LX), where the
adapter (male part) goes in. The main batteries go flat while the adapter is
plugged in. Anyone know if it can be fixed, and cost estimate?


     __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my LX
  _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside
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Subject:      Re: Is the 200lx going to whither away?

A Meshar writes:
> On the plane from JFK to LAX today, my neighbour sported a
> Wince 680. He told me he used the 200LX before. He told me
> that his WinCE runs circles around the >00LX, that his chip
> is faster bla bla bla... Finally I asked him to devise
> three tests, and compare. He thought it was a great idea. I
> beat him on all three tests with a huge margin....

I sort of feel sorry for any WinCE owner stuck on a flight in a seat next to
Avi. "All right! All right! The Hp200 is terrific! Just let me eat my lunch!

Or to paraphrase a well known joke theme:

A palm owner, a Wince owner, and an Hp200LX owner were travelling on a plane
together when the pilot came over the intercom and said that the plane was
going to crash. Who was saved?





Nobody. BUT. The palm owner lost his stylus in the panic. The Wince owner had
to change batteries and then wait for the system to start up before the plane
crashed. The Hp200 owner looked up his lawyer's phone number, sent him an email
with an update to his will before hitting the ground.

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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: loose plug
Comments: cc: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@wanadoo.fr>
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hello Nathalie,

first you have to find out if the problem is really in the female plug,
there are (at least) 2 types of plugs, one is 2.1 mm (the middle pin)
the other 2.5mm. If you use the larger jack for the small plug this may
cause the trouble. In case your jack is o.k. and there is current from
the power supply (do you have a volt meter?) you could open the HP/LX
and look inside whats wrong. (I did it myself once, but it is an
adventure). Backup your palmtop first. Take out all batteries.
You have to remove the four rubber feet on the bottom and in the holes
you find torx screews. you need a special screwdriver for them. (I took
my Palmtop and went to a store for tools to find the right one).
Then you can take off the bottom part (easy to write here, but be very
careful!) and look inside, maybe you can find the cause. The plug is
connected to the mainboard with thin wires, maybe you have to solder a
connection or the plug is broken - then you have to find a new one
(electronics store)
Look at this page before you start:
http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html

good luck,
Werner

On 18 Apr 2000, at 5:16, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Date:    Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:16:58 +0200
> From:    Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
> Subject: loose power plug (female)
>
> I'm finally settled and connected at my new apartment (for anyone
> waiting for e-mail from me). I have a loose plug (female part on the
> LX), where the adapter (male part) goes in. The main batteries go flat
> while the adapter is plugged in. Anyone know if it can be fixed, and
> cost estimate?
>
>
>      __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my LX
>   _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside
>  (_)/ (_)     ready to put down my thoughts in Spring
>



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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:22:29 +0200
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Hi Larry,

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:35:04 -0400, Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM> wrote:

> >>There is another program, SETIT, by Larry Tachna, that sets

> thanks for the plug. I sent out about 6 copies of that program anybody care
> to comment on it, like it? hate it? why? missing features? too many

I use your SETIT very frequently. I embedded it in LXTeX, so that the
all controlling LXTEX.BAT batch file uses SETIT to switch the light
sleep mode on and off when desired (Metafont, one component of LXTeX /
LaTeX doesn't like the light sleep mode. It produces opcode exception
arrors).
I hope you agree with that?! I would better have been asking you
before, I know.... ;-)
If you would like to see HOW I embedded SETIT in LXTEX, see my home
page and download LXTeX.

And I use it in combination with my latest software project DMSIM (you
can also read about it on my homepage). In this project I use SETIT to
switch between the zoom modes of the LX's screen by batch file.

Missing features: no, but it would be nice, if SETIT would return its
operation in understandable words. Such as "setit --> light sleep mode
disabled" instead of "setit --> lf ok".
I like Setit very much! Thanks for such a useful little program!

> features? there is also a version that mimics a system manager app called
> ppal.exe.

What is this? I don't understand what you mean by "mimics a sysmgr
app".

> I also have a program that helps make mailing list files for
> POST\LX ie; lets you pick mail address's from a list and saves them to a new
> file that can be used as a mailing list file for POST/LX

Since I work very frequently with post/lx adr files,, I'd be intersted
in seeing the program to decide, if it's useful for me! :-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Donglok,

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:59:30 -0700, Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:

>         - He will stay Westin Grand Hotel in Berlin where the hotel
>         provides data port in the guest room. But he is not sure whether
>         that port is compatible to the one he uses in US.

I just called Westin Grand Hotel and they said, they have 'regular
Western connectors', I think, in USA they are called RJ11. It should be
compatible to US modems. If it's not, your friend could buy a cheap German
modem or maybe I could lend your friend one.

We now have in Germany many ISPs that don't need any subscriprion, such
as MobilCom Freenet. But all these ISPs have telephone numbers
beginning with '010' (E.g. Freenet has 01019-01929). And from the hotel
all numbers beginning with 010 are blocked. :-(

So your friend has to find an ISP, such as AOL, that's number doesn't
begin with 010. AOL's number begins with 019 (I don't know the rest).

The costs are pretty cheap for these 010... ISPs (0.033 DM per minute
up to abt. 0.06 DM per min). I don't know about the costs of 019...
ISPs, e.g. AOL.

He can receive email by using his normal POP server (university).

Maybe he will not be able to send email, because much SMTP servers
don't allow someone connected to another network than the SMTP server's
network to use SMTP. If this is the case, you could use a free email
service such as GMX, Iname, Hotmail etc. They even allow sending email
from 'foreign' networks. In many cases you have to set 'SMTP after POP', i.e.
The software has to do the POP session before the SMTP sesssion
(default is vice cersa) fur authentication.

>         - He will also stay in a private residence in Hamburg for a few
>         days and the same question as above.

Here he should be able to use the Freenet service And other 010...
ISPs.

> He is even thinking of making international phone calls to his e-mail
> account in our University, but I hope there is a cheaper way. I tried
> to download and install one of the German free ISP software but no
> success on my NT machine...

The free ISPs don't really need special software AFAIK. They just need
a common browser and dialer, and in most casts, you even don't have to
use a special login or password. But since they are reachable by
special net numbers (01019 01929 is not a common telephone number!),
they are probably not reachable from USA (did you try to dial a +49
before the net number and leaving the first zero away?)

Hope this helped

GTX
daniel (Berlin)

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:29:22 +0200
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Hello there..(?)

I have not seen any new messages on the Hplx newsserver since 13 april.
Is the server or the list down?

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I saw some 1600mah today at CompUSA. 4 pack, can't remember the brand.
orange package.

Philippe

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> <<<<I am not being very nice to my batteries, but I don't care, I
> want them fully charged at all times, and the minor cost for a
> pair of batteries, is a minor cost.  I also leave one of my ST
> 40 meg flash cards in my slot at all times, and my batteries
> don't last very long lately.  The last time I pounded on the
> palmtop hard, I only got about six hours before I had to put my
> back up alkalines in.
>
> There has been lots of chatter lately in regards to the 1500 &
> 1600 mA Ni-MH's, but I don't know where to order them from.  I
> would prefer to walk in a store to purchase them, rather than
> buying from the web, but if I have to get them from the web, to
> get the newer hi-cap Ni-MH's, then I would buy from the web.  I
> would at least like a company that I can call and talk to a live
> person, even if it is at my expense.>>>>>
>
> You can get the 1600 mAh Kodak Ni-MH batteries at
> www.thomasdistributing.com.  Kodak claims this is a new technology
> that self discharges slower and has a longer overall life.  They say
> it should charge at least 1000 times.
>
> I've bought a few things from Thomas Distibuting for my camera and
> have found them reliable.
>
> Barry
>
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I can't vouch for Rome but

>    as well, but I can't tell if it is "local" or not(0 0845 080 1000).

the 0845 is a local call rate anywhere in the uk. for my international
roaming i use my att global network account. it gives me access to my
companies lan and the internet at local pops around the world.


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The following is a list of all german free dialup ISPs. All you
have to do is to configure your Internet program with the
access data of the provider, you want to use. The costs are in
the range of 3-5 Pf per minute and are billed to the owner of
the domestic line. You don't have to sign up or register
anything. The phone numbers are identical all over Germany and
should also work from Hotels. (This is an extract of LXTEL)


Provider    Phonenumber      User                Password
---------------------------------------------------------
Arcor       01070-0192070    arcor               internet
Callino     01075-0192300    callino             internet
Compuart    01088-0193040    online@trade        online
Drillisch   010050-0192134   Drillisch@internet  -
freenet     01019-01929      frei                frei
GTS         01040-0192340    gts                 internet
LNonline    01088-0192361    LN                  online
MSN         01088-0192658    msn                 msn
Otelo       01011-0191501    otelo               online
Talknet     01050-019251     talknet             talknet


I recommend LNonline and MSN. Both bill in second units instead
of minute units, which is good for email checking.

Stefan

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Like new network card for HP200LX. With driver disk, box, manual. Accton
EN2216-1

Asking $40 with free USPS Priority Mail shipping in US.

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<<<<Date:    Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:59:46 +0800
From:    LEONG FOO TEK <leongft@YEOS.COM.MY>
Subject: Re: Must have list>>>>

<<<<You can download Turbo C from http://community.borland.com>>>>

Thanks, but I have Turbo C.  Every version since they started
publishing it.  I was naming the list of things I have to have on my
palmtop.

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<<<<PS: Not sure about VI as an editor, definately one of the most
user-unfriendly programs I have ever run across. I guess that's what
separates users from programmers....
I'll just stick with memo, it's quite sufficient for my needs
(buggering
up my autoexec file..)>>>>>

The key to vi is getting used to it.  It's very different than other
editors but you don't need to be a programmer to learn it.  You just
have to spend the time.  And when you do you find yourself doing
more, easier, and in fewer keystrokes, than with most other editors.
And when you're done it leaves you feeling proud of having found
such clever combinations to save keystrokes.  It makes text editing
as playing Sokoban. :)

I do agree it's not worth learning to edit autoexec.bat, if that's
all you do.  So maybe it's only worthwhile to learn for programmers.

A good alternative with a much more gentle learning curve is Qedit,
now known as TSE Jr.  It's probably more powerful than vi.  Although
you need a few more keystrokes to use it than you do with vi,  you
still need fewer for most things than with most editors.  Qedit has
been my pc editor for about 10 or 15 years.  By the time I found a
version of vi for the pc I'd become adicted to Qedit.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a LaTeX
> document.
> Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other format,
> especially PS, EPS of TIFF?

HiJaak and its variations (HiJaak Graphics Suite, HiJaak Pro)
are graphics conversion programs.  There were DOS versions
long ago, but all are Win32 now I believe.  Produced by
Quarterdeck, now Symantec.  Maybe no longer supported.

I have also used a LaserWriter Printer utility to convert to
PostScript.  Works very nicely for importing into WP5.1.

Steve

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<<<<First, I wanted to say the word is "wither," not "whither."  As
living things lose life, they wither.  Whither is more along the
lines of "where.">>>>

Thanks for pointing that out.

<<<<I don't think the lack of new software is an issue.  I believe
the
HP200LX and its currently available software is best described as
mature.  Just because contemporary commercial software developers
continually crank out updates doesn't mean that approach is
required for getting everyone's job done.  I use a pentium desktop
with Win95 at work, but on the road I rely exclusively on my LX.
Granted, I can't generate complex data collection forms in Corel
Draw on my LX, but I can do a tolerable job of just about everything
else, and the graphics work can wait until I get back to the office.
Bottom line, my 200LX currently does everything I want it to.>>>>

I agree.  The 200lx would have become useless a long time ago if
there wasn't such a huge amount of very good software for it.  I
think that was mentioned in my original post.

<<<<Barry's point regarding protocol changes is valid--when LXTCP
stops
working with current protocols we'll have some work to do.  We have
the source, though.  And I bet that would be a project Rod would be
willing to offer help on, if not actively support.>>>>

That's the problem I was talking about.  And maybe with the first
change or 2 Rod would help out.  Or maybe someone else would.

I don't think I was predicting the immenant death of the 200lx.  I
was trying to look ahead to how it might happen when it does, and
wondering if this is the beginning of that process.

The 200lx won't actually die till after I do, unless I'm very
unlucky and something happens to all of mine at a time when they're
not replacable.  But it could stop being useful to a lot of people,
or even most people, sooner than that.  Maybe not.  I'm not
predicting.  I'm wondering.

And I'm wondering if some future change won't be adaptable to the
200lx.  Just like the 200lx can no longer be used to get on
Compuserve or AOL.  I don't think we can know that now.

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Interesting comparison, so I'll throw in one more.

Using CPack running on a Pentium II 266mhz, NT 4.0 (SP5) and Filer on my 6mb
double-speed 200LX, a transfer of a 38,456 byte file (HPALARM.EXM) takes about
7.05 sec, or about 5.49KB/s.

- Longden





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Copy single file, file size 38,460:

                  link     elapsed      effective          protocol
                 speed        time     throughput        efficiency
                 (bps)       (sec)         (KB/s)     (%link speed)
               -------     -------     ----------     -------------
TransFile      57,600          12       3.13KB/s              ~50%
X-Finder      115,200          27       1.39KB/s              ~12%


Other Notes
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I'm running WinNT 4.0 (service pack 6) on a dual processor PIII-550.  XFS and
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This is a particularly useful discussion for those of us who travel
occasionally. I wonder if someone might consider gradually collecting
a FAQ on the subject.

If I had the knowledge, I'd try to do it myself, but ...

Stefan Peichl, Daniel Hertrich and others wrote:
>
> The following is a list of all german free dialup ISPs. All you
> have to do is to configure your Internet program with the
Ýsnip of useful travel/ISP information¨

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> Unfortunately, my X-Finder transfer rates (real throughput) are SLOWER than
TransFile Win200, even though the baud rate is
> supposedly double (115200 vs. 57600).
Ýsnip¨
> I'm running WinNT 4.0 (service pack 6) on a dual processor PIII-550.  XFS and
TransFile thus run emulated within NT.  I've played > with all the "DOS box
settings" to try and get XFS running faster, but to no avail.  I've even altered
the task priority for XFS, but that > also does not affect the throughput.
>
I haven't conducted any test by stopwatch (maybe I will this weekend) so I can't
quote any actual figures. However, my subjective impression is that transfers
with X-Finder are substantially faster (maybe 1.5 times) than with Zip (which I
used formerly). I have never tried Transfile.

I typically run XFS in DOS 3.3 on my antique 8088 cpu Toshiba 1200HB laptop,
which has found new life as a file server/backup/testbed/accessory to my 200LX.
I also occasionally run XFS on a co-worker's Compaq Presario with a Pentium III
running NT 4.0.  Oddly, transfers to the Toshiba's 20 Mb hard drive appear to be
slightly faster than those to the Compaq's (2 Gb?) hard drive.

It's still quite fast and perfectly useful, but it makes me wonder if something
about NT slows down the process.

By the way, my experiences are with the older version of XFS, not the newer one
now available as part of the latest Beta distribution.

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Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:09:22 -0500 (EST)

12h37m50s ago ...
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Brent Geske wrote:

> With X-Finder set to 115200 bps, Wide or Ultra mode, and Halfrate
> OFF (max link speed of 11.25KB/s at theoretical Ýunachievable¨ 100%
> efficiency), I get only 1.39KB/s throughput, or ~12% of link speed!
>
> Is the protocol used by X-Finder + XFS inherently less efficient than
> that used by Filer and Connectivity Pack (and TransFile)?

I just ran a couple of quick tests of XF/XFS.  Used a file of 133933
bytes.  Copying from palmtop to laptop (Win98) took 20 seconds for real
throughput of 6,697 bytes/Sec (not counting time to confirm the copy
command).  Going the other way (laptop to palmtop (drive a:) took only
17 seconds, for throughput of 7,878 bytes/Sec.  Don't have Transfile so
can't run a comparison, but the speed I get with XF/XFS seems pretty
good to me, so I don't think the transfer protocol is inefficient.

The palmtop is an 8MB dbl speed unit.  The laptop has a 433MHz Celeron.

At a guess, the problem may be the WinNT DOS emulation.

How do other XF users results compare?


Later,

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the thing about vi is that you will find it on all unix systems. so it is
the one to learn because it is just everywhere! i lie it too! i swap between
that and the memo thing

markj

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Correction, it was a 400mhz Pentium II (hey.. they all bring up Notepad just as
fast).

And I was using a Jeteye IR serial connector, not the regular serial cable.

- Longden





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Interesting comparison, so I'll throw in one more.

Using CPack running on a Pentium II 266mhz, NT 4.0 (SP5) and Filer on my 6mb
double-speed 200LX, a transfer of a 38,456 byte file (HPALARM.EXM) takes about
7.05 sec, or about 5.49KB/s.

- Longden





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Subject:  serial xfer > 57.6k?  X-Finder vs. TransFile Win200?





Copy single file, file size 38,460:

                  link     elapsed      effective          protocol
                 speed        time     throughput        efficiency
                 (bps)       (sec)         (KB/s)     (%link speed)
               -------     -------     ----------     -------------
TransFile      57,600          12       3.13KB/s              ~50%
X-Finder      115,200          27       1.39KB/s              ~12%


Other Notes
-----------
I'm running WinNT 4.0 (service pack 6) on a dual processor PIII-550.  XFS and
TransFile thus run emulated within NT.

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Same reason all early PC support people had to know edlin.

Nothing more pathetic than a support person who couldn't fix a system that
didn't have their favorite word processor already loaded.

While vi has its points, I only use it on the LX to keep up the skills, since I
have to switch over to Unix often enough, and on different machines that vi
becomes the only common tool.

- Longden





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the thing about vi is that you will find it on all unix systems. so it is
the one to learn because it is just everywhere! i lie it too! i swap between
that and the memo thing

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:15:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Mike Kopplin <kopplin@technoir.nu>
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Version 0.91 of LXgFTP, the graphical FTP client, is now available at

   http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxgftp.htm


Highlights of this version:

 * The directory display is now a little faster.
 * Now compatible with all servers I have found.
   (If you know of one that doesn't work, let me know.)
 * Optional Turbo mode increases file transfer speed in some cases.

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:12:33 -0500
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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I called the 800 number and spoke with a nice lady who told me that they
still support DOS users but are not enrolling any new DOS accounts.
If you run a recent porgram (like Quicken98 or MS money) you can use Check
Free. $10 per month for up to 20 payments, up to 10 different accounts.
All records reside on your computer.
They also do payments over the web but I prefer to have my register on a
local machine.

Andrew King
IIT Physics, Chicago
312-567-3021
technology is the answer, what was the question

Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 01:25:54 -0400
From: George Coleman <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?
>
> Is this version still available? I'd love to work my checks
> on the palmtop!

I'm not sure. Checkfree's phone number in the U.S. is
800-297-3180 or 614-564-3500.  The latest DOS version is
Version 3.0 Release 5.  They still support it.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:03:45 -0700
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O'Reilly & Associates publishes a great book on vi called "Learning the vi
Editor". Highly recommend it. Vi rocks!!! There's no other place where you can
do such powerful find/replace!

Thanks,

Philippe

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From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:53 AM
Subject: Using VI


> <<<<PS: Not sure about VI as an editor, definately one of the most
> user-unfriendly programs I have ever run across. I guess that's what
> separates users from programmers....
> I'll just stick with memo, it's quite sufficient for my needs
> (buggering
> up my autoexec file..)>>>>>
>
> The key to vi is getting used to it.  It's very different than other
> editors but you don't need to be a programmer to learn it.  You just
> have to spend the time.  And when you do you find yourself doing
> more, easier, and in fewer keystrokes, than with most other editors.
> And when you're done it leaves you feeling proud of having found
> such clever combinations to save keystrokes.  It makes text editing
> as playing Sokoban. :)
>
> I do agree it's not worth learning to edit autoexec.bat, if that's
> all you do.  So maybe it's only worthwhile to learn for programmers.
>
> A good alternative with a much more gentle learning curve is Qedit,
> now known as TSE Jr.  It's probably more powerful than vi.  Although
> you need a few more keystrokes to use it than you do with vi,  you
> still need fewer for most things than with most editors.  Qedit has
> been my pc editor for about 10 or 15 years.  By the time I found a
> version of vi for the pc I'd become adicted to Qedit.
>
> Barry
>
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>

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:44:04 +0200
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From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Road(Air) warrior advice sought
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On Monday, 17.04.2000 at 18:37 GMT, Albert Kind  wrote:
> Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:13:48 -0500 (EST)
>
> Greetings:
>
>    I will be on 2 International trips in the coming months, and would
>    like to seek the advice of native residents & road warriors alike. I
>    will be in Rome last week of June & in Cambridge UK first week of
>    August. I will bring a Laptop (OB800CT) on the UK trip, but probably
>    not on the Rome trip if I can avoid it. I have a CIS account And I
>    note there is a local CIS# for Rome. There appears to be some for UK
>    as well, but I can't tell if it is "local" or not(0 0845 080 1000).
>
>    I'm usually on-line ~30min a day managing this list among other
>    activities...mostly EMail.
>
>    Is CIS a viable option in both locals? I have found that CIS
>    connections at some domestic(US) dial-ups can be "tempermental".
>
>    Are there any recommended "FreeNet" services in these areas? Or
>    reliable fee for service with local #s?
>
>    Aside: I am told that using a US Calling Card can be a costly
>    experience overseas, and was recommended to purchase a local calling
>    card when I arrive. If I have my OB800, I assume I could use a
>    Net-2-Phone service, has anyone experience with these? Are they
>    reliable? Cost effective?
>
The UK number you've got is the CompuServe "National local call" number.
This number is a local call all across the UK and the script to be used is
CompuServe. In the UK, you need a power adapter plug. If you can't find one
in the US, buy one on Heathrow Airport when you arrive. Voltage is 240V.

In many hotels you can unplug the phone cord from the phone and use the
RJ-11 plug but you are on the safe side if you buy a UK phone adapter plug.
I've seen them at Radio Shack in the US.

In Italy, there is no national call number for CompuServe. You need to "Go
Phones" before you leave and get the access numbers. If I remember
correctly, many of them are through other networks and you need appropriate
scripts (also take note of the surcharges). In Italy, you need both a power
plug adapter (230-240V) and phone plug adapter (a monstrous plug, not easy
to find).

Re. calling cards: for calls inside the country, local calling cards are
usually the cheapest bet. However, in many countries you mostly get chip
cards for pay phones, not calling cards for 800 numbers that could be used
in hotels. Hotel phone rates are outrageous and local calls are almost
always clocked, not flat rate, so calling CompuServe for 30 mins can cost
you a bundle. For calls into the US, you might want to look at some special
calling card providers in the US for that purpose. AT&T and MCI calling
card prices are usually sky-high from Europe.

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:33:25 -0700
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David Becher wrote:

> I sort of feel sorry for any WinCE owner stuck on a flight in a seat next to
> Avi. "All right! All right! The Hp200 is terrific! Just let me eat my lunch!

Believe it or not, I kept my mouth shut when he took out
his machine. After about 30 minutes I took mine out. I
never said anything to him. He did about 80% of the talking
(he was a salesperson by his card).

Today I got an email from him. He wants a 200LX.

> A palm owner, a Wince owner, and an Hp200LX owner were travelling on a plane
> together when the pilot came over the intercom and said that the plane was
> going to crash. Who was saved?

Never heard this joke, and it is good! Thank you.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:33:31 -0700
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Jim Saklad wrote:
> As a native speaker of American English for over 50 years, I find
> that hobchi's afftectations draw my attention to the *stylized
> writing* and distract me from the *content* of his messages.
>
> I therefore am less likely to read them all the way through and
> simply delete instead.

Reminds me that Post/LX has FILETERS - and you can relegate
any message with a filterable content (e.g. a persons name)
to the proper folder. Then you can simply perform any
necessary actions on the content of that folder :-) ...

I and not a native speaker of English, although have spoken
it for almost 50 years. I find the Hobchism to be
distracting from the content and refuse to read his posts.
There is also a very slight feeling in me of being offended
somehow. I think it is so because it is as if Al "talks" to
me and other in that tone which is demeaning. I am not sure
this is the explanatioin, but maybe.

In a prior "liguistic flare-up" of Al's, he agreed, after
much to do in the list, to stop the Hobchism, and indeed for
quite some time it was a pleasure to not read that
"dialect". But his word must have waned and vanish and he is
back to his filterable style :-) oh, well...

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:33:19 -0700
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Theodore Heise wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, A Meshar wrote:
>
> > You quoted Barry's message intact, but added nothing. I
> > would be curious to read what you really meant to say.
>
> Well, thanks--I'll go ahead and write something since you seem
> to have some degree of confidence it would be worthwhile.  :)

ROFL! Hey, don't let me push you around... I see thse kind
of posts occasionally, and it is always intriguing what did
the poster have in mind, why did the poster his/her mind...

> First, I wanted to say the word is "wither," not "whither."  As
> living things lose life, they wither.  Whither is more along the
> lines of "where."

Then the word fits either way: Will the 200LX shrivel up
and die (wither) or where is it going as a niche. :)

> Now, on to Barry's e-mail:

> I don't think the lack of new software is an issue.  I believe the
> HP200LX and its currently available software is best described as
> mature.  Just because contemporary commercial software developers
> continually crank out updates doesn't mean that approach is
> required for getting everyone's job done.  I use a pentium desktop
> with Win95 at work, but on the road I rely exclusively on my LX.
> Granted, I can't generate complex data collection forms in Corel
> Draw on my LX, but I can do a tolerable job of just about everything
> else, and the graphics work can wait until I get back to the office.
> Bottom line, my 200LX currently does everything I want it to.

So the work you do has two distinct natures: deskbound and
mobile. The 200LX does all you need in the mobile arena.

One problem with the software is that in some cases, WWW/LX
for example, the environment changes sufficiently that we
must update the software or it will not work. I just got an
email from a norwegian customer who could not connect. The
newest version off our Webpage fixed it instantly.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:33:22 -0700
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Chris Randle wrote:

> I'm not sure I'd want to be competing against a stock 680 using
> a stock 200. Just playing the devil's advocate here, because
> you know I agree with every word you've written. :-)

His machine was loaded, he was a power user, he was still
beaten. He had a small case full of gear - probably $5000.
I would pit a stock 200LX against a 680LX in a heartbeat.
The apps in the 200LX are about two generations AHEAD of
the 680LX built-in stuff. We won't win all, but we
definitely win most.

> Of course the 200LX will die, nothing lasts forever.
> 200LX = The Great Pyramid at El Giza
> WinCE = The Millennium Dome at Grenwich
> I think it helps to be English to understand that.

I use this: 200LX = "invention" of Pi (3.14...)
            WinCE = Boole & Babbage's Differential Machine

One is basically a standard unsurpassed the other is a good
idea, but paled over time.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:49:25 -0700
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              Brent Geske <brent_geske@MENTORG.COM>
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Has anyone tried ELKS on the 200LX?  It's a slimmed down version of Linux which is being developed for 8086 and 80286 class PCs, specifically including palmtops (see <http://www.elks.ecs.soton.ac.uk/>).

I have a spare 200LX (also a spare 95LX) on which it might be interesting to run this.  I have a Linux machine acting as a DSL firewall, so I'm fairly familiar with Linux.  It would be nice to have it on an ultra portable...

Thanks!
Brent Geske

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:33:31 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> In a prior "liguistic flare-up" of Al's, he agreed, after
> much to do in the list, to stop the Hobchism, and indeed for
> quite some time it was a pleasure to not read that
> "dialect". But his word must have waned and vanish and he is
> back to his filterable style :-) oh, well...

Welcome to the "filterable" group Al :) Personally, I could care less how
someone writes as long as I understand it. Will we be persecuting the folks
who occasionally write in French or Spanish here on the list also? Keep it
coming Al and remember, why isn't the word 'phonics' spelled the way that it
sounds.....

Jeff

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Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:00:29 -0500 (EST)

01h27m04s ago ...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> ...
> Today I got an email from him. He wants a 200LX...

As you have been known to say ROTFL ;-)


*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Once you have these 1500mah batteries, can you simply plug the LX every night
(either that or when the low battery prompt comes up) and grab it in the
morning? I'm trying to find a better way than to take the batteries out every
10-15 hours to recharge them separately.

And what is you opinion on the charging programs?

Thanks!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 9:23 AM
Subject: Need source for hi-cap Ni-MH batteries


> Hi all,
>
> I need a source to purchase some hi-capacity Ni-MH batteries for
> my LX.  I used the green Shier System 1300 mAhNi-MH's for a
> while, then switched to Radio Shack's 1200mAh about a year ago.
> I think I have cooked my latest set well enough now, and am
> ready to buy a new pair.  I charge them at high current for the
> maximum time, each time my LX is plugged in (yes I know Avi, its
> not the optimum usage of ABC/LX).
>
> I am not being very nice to my batteries, but I don't care, I
> want them fully charged at all times, and the minor cost for a
> pair of batteries, is a minor cost.  I also leave one of my ST
> 40 meg flash cards in my slot at all times, and my batteries
> don't last very long lately.  The last time I pounded on the
> palmtop hard, I only got about six hours before I had to put my
> back up alkalines in.
>
> There has been lots of chatter lately in regards to the 1500 &
> 1600 mA Ni-MH's, but I don't know where to order them from.  I
> would prefer to walk in a store to purchase them, rather than
> buying from the web, but if I have to get them from the web, to
> get the newer hi-cap Ni-MH's, then I would buy from the web.  I
> would at least like a company that I can call and talk to a live
> person, even if it is at my expense.
>
> I did go to the Digikey web site, but could not find what I was
> looking for.  Any suggestions on brands or performance?  I
> thought I heard mention on Panasonic making some.  Thanks.
>
> Robert Hocking
>
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<<<<I'm not sure I'd want to be competing against a stock 680 using
a stock 200. Just playing the devil's advocate here, because
you know I agree with every word you've written. :-)>>>>

I've never been willing to pay all that money for an upgrade.  All
my 200lx's are just the way I bought them, with the exception of a
flash card in each.  I don't fully trust the speed upgrade since I'd
like these to last the rest of my retirement.  The extra ram would
be nice but not really necessary and a large flash card is so much
cheaper.

I'm sure no expert on the WinCE machines but I've played with them a
little and talked with others who have them.  I don't think they're
much competition for the stock 200lx unless you care about the
multimedia.  Which I don't.

I do have a Palm and I can compare that with the stock lx and the lx
wins hands down on everything except size and weight.  And since the
Palm is taking all the business away from WinCE I would guess it
would beat that too.

On the other hand, I've never bothered with a modem in my palmtops.
I have a 14.4 xjack modem but I've never used it.  I might feel
different if I had.

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> And I'm wondering if some future change won't be adaptable to the
> 200lx.  Just like the 200lx can no longer be used to get on
> Compuserve or AOL.  I don't think we can know that now.

Just a quick correction - the HP200 can still do CIS using Accis4.x
version.  It supports the newer HMI interface just fine.

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Fryday wrote:
>
> O'Reilly & Associates publishes a great book on vi called "Learning the vi
> Editor". Highly recommend it. Vi rocks!!! There's no other place where you can
> do such powerful find/replace!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe
>

Oh, please, there are many `places' where you can do as much or more than you
can do with vi's find and replace...

No to deprecate vi, by the way, which is just fine, but let's not go overboard.

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(<grin> Hehe, I smell a religious war in the making)

Dunno,

There aren't that many multi-platform powerful yet simple test-editors out
there. And many less that let you search/replace using regular expressions...
But I'd love to hear from any that can rivalize vi in power. What was that other
popular unix editor again?

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: Using VI


> Fryday wrote:
> >
> > O'Reilly & Associates publishes a great book on vi called "Learning the vi
> > Editor". Highly recommend it. Vi rocks!!! There's no other place where you
can
> > do such powerful find/replace!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Philippe
> >
>
> Oh, please, there are many `places' where you can do as much or more than you
> can do with vi's find and replace...
>
> No to deprecate vi, by the way, which is just fine, but let's not go
overboard.
>

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:52:21 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@fbtc.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 3:53 AM
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> I saw some 1600mah today at CompUSA. 4 pack, can't remember the
brand.
> orange package.

Those could be Kodak.  They're orange.  Thanks.

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Sheesh, so touchy.

Allrighty, let me rephrase: 'IMHO AFAIK, there's no other place where you can do
such powerful find/replace'. Now, as far as the meaning of what is "correct
information", I'd tend to say it's whatever we believe it to be, but heck,
anyone feel free to give correct me or anyone with more accurate info.

And in any case people, keep an eye on the context and if you can't find it, ask
around ;-)

Philippe


----- Original Message -----
From: David Ness <DNess@Home.Com>
To: Fryday <fryday@california.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Using VI


> I have no interest whatever in a religious war. The statement you made was
> `There's no other place where you can do such powerful find/replace'.
> Your statement is incorrect, and this mailing list generally is a source
> of correct information, so I thought that it should not stand without
> correction.
>
> You should understand that someone may eventually encounter your messages
> without their context, and may therefore mistakenly believe them.
>
> Fryday wrote:
> >
> > (<grin> Hehe, I smell a religious war in the making)
> >
> > Dunno,
> >
> > There aren't that many multi-platform powerful yet simple test-editors out
> > there. And many less that let you search/replace using regular
expressions...
> > But I'd love to hear from any that can rivalize vi in power. What was that
other
> > popular unix editor again?
> >
> > Philippe
> >
>

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Hi Jeff,

Jeff Johns wrote:
> Will we be persecuting the folks who occasionally

Two points: No one persecutes no one - I don't care if Al
writes in whatever dialect he chooses. I just can't stand
reading the gobbledigook and filter his stuff out.

Second point is that the key word in your sentence is
"occasional" - Al is by no means an "occasional" poster.

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Subject:      OT: Off topic Re: Limited size files in text editors
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On 17 Apr 2000, at 0:11, Barry wrote:

><<<<<Can someone explain to a non-programmer why many text editors
>only handle
>a limited size file?>>>>>
> ÝSNIP¨

>In windows I think most editors avoid that problem by allocating as
>much memory as is needed for any given file, whether that memory is
>available or not.  The OS, with the help of some special hardware in
>the cpu, will handle swapping and paging to disk pretty efficiently,
>effectively using disk as additional memory without the program ever
>knowing about it.  But that's still much slower than having it all
>in actual memory.

ÝSNIP¨

>A dramatic example of this was when I used WordPerfect on a Data
>General minicomputer with about 32 meg of ram divided among about
>400 users.  I occasionally had to load a 40 or 50 meg file into WP
>and if the system was getting a lot of use by a lot of users that
>could take 2 hours.  Then, if I was forgetful and hit end down to go
>to the bottom of the document, it took another 2 hours.  A text
>search could take longer.
>
>When the system wasn't being used that much it would still take 15
>minutes or more.  But early in the morning or late at night when I
>was the only one on the system and I had all the memory available to
>me, it could do it in less than a minute.
>

Which reminds me that just before Christmas, someone at work apparently
double-clicked on a .txt file in Explorer on Windows NT. This was on one of
the server machines with 4 x 400MHz CPUs and 1GigaByte of SD RAM.

A while later people started complaining that the Oracle Server wasn't responding.

On investigation I discovered that Notepad.exe was _still_ trying to load and
display (which I think was the real killer) the 13 GigaByte file!

I remember on earlier Windows when Notepad had a 32K limit, obviously things
have progressed since then :-)


Mike

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Hello,
  What version of Borland's Turbo C runs best on the palmtop?

WEB

Barry wrote:
>
> <<<<Date:    Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:59:46 +0800
> From:    LEONG FOO TEK <leongft@YEOS.COM.MY>
> Subject: Re: Must have list>>>>
>
> <<<<You can download Turbo C from http://community.borland.com>>>>
>
> Thanks, but I have Turbo C.  Every version since they started
> publishing it.  I was naming the list of things I have to have on my
> palmtop.
>
> Barry
>
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>   I find the Hobchism to be
> distracting from the content and refuse to read his posts.
> There is also a very slight feeling in me of being offended
> somehow.

Hey folks, let's NOT go down this thread again.

When it last started up several months ago it resulted in a lot of
heated discussion and unfriendly comments.  The negative feelings
expressed didn't do anyone any good nor the list either.

If you don't like someone's appends ignore them or filter out.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:44:54 -0500
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What was that other
popular unix editor again?

Are you thinking of Emacs and all its various clones and look-alikes?

.ed.

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On 18 Apr 2000, at 13:44, Fryday wrote:

>(<grin> Hehe, I smell a religious war in the making)
>
>Dunno,
>
>There aren't that many multi-platform powerful yet simple test-editors out
>there. And many less that let you search/replace using regular expressions...
>But I'd love to hear from any that can rivalize vi in power. What was that other
>popular unix editor again?

I have to put in a vote for Epsilon from Lugaru (http://www.lugaru.com)
It's an emacs clone, but a LOT faster and it's just as extensible (it's extension
language is very like c).
The latest version comes in 7 flavours: Linux (X and console), Free BSD (ditto), Win32 GUI, Win32
console, OS/2, Win16, and DOS (8-bit DOS too).

I run it on my HP200 (just managed to keep this on topic!), although I've not upgraded the HP from
version 9.02 yet.
In all its flavours except DOS it does telnet/ftp/http as well as _lots_ of programmer things  and
plain old text editing.

And yes, it does do regular expression search and replace (across multiple files, loaded or
not, also  specified with regular expressions)


Mike

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:10:24 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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I just checked Notepad on my machine.  It won't even open a 130K file.  I
think the 32K limit is still there.

Notetab, on the other hand, will open as large a file as you have memory.

Larry Zimmerman

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:07:39 +0100 Mike Little <Mike@AMPERSOFT.CO.UK>
writes:

>On investigation I discovered that Notepad.exe was _still_ trying to
>load and
>display (which I think was the real killer) the 13 GigaByte file!
>
>I remember on earlier Windows when Notepad had a 32K limit, obviously
>things
>have progressed since then :-)


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Is there a Windows CE/Handheld version of this mailing list?

Gary F. Blemaster

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Russel Brooks wrote:
> >   I find the Hobchism to be
> > distracting from the content and refuse to read his posts.
> > There is also a very slight feeling in me of being offended
> > somehow.
>
> Hey folks, let's NOT go down this thread again.
>
> When it last started up several months ago it resulted in a lot of
> heated discussion and unfriendly comments.  The negative feelings
> expressed didn't do anyone any good nor the list either.
>
> If you don't like someone's appends ignore them or filter out.

Last time we had that topic pop up, Al eventually agreed to
stop the use of that dialect. No idea what made him recant.

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Barry wrote:
> I've never been willing to pay all that money for an upgrade.  All
> my 200lx's are just the way I bought them, with the exception of a
> flash card in each.  I don't fully trust the speed upgrade since I'd
> like these to last the rest of my retirement.  The extra ram would
> be nice but not really necessary and a large flash card is so much
> cheaper.

I had trouble with the ram upgrade price too but I finally went ahead
and bought a 32Meg (Single Speed!) new 200LX from Thadeus last summer.
Besides letting me keep previous stock 4Meg 200lx as a backup, the change
to a 32Meg C: drive was a BIG enhancement over the 3.3Meg C: and the
10Meg flash card that was required to hold the overflow.  The old
machine was a constant bother to keep the small C: disk from filling up.

> On the other hand, I've never bothered with a modem in my palmtops.
> I have a 14.4 xjack modem but I've never used it.  I might feel
> different if I had.

Same here, I've got a 14.4 card modem but I use an external modem via
serial cable instead.  One of these days I need to start experimenting
with the card modem so I'll be prepared when I go on vacation!

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:40:08 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: loose power plug (female)
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Nath (?) -

>I'm finally settled and connected at my new apartment (for anyone waiting
>for e-mail from me). I have a loose plug (female part on the LX), where the
>adapter (male part) goes in. The main batteries go flat while the adapter is
>plugged in. Anyone know if it can be fixed, and cost estimate?

Mine acted the same, but different <g>.

I was able to isolate it to where the wire connects TO the male plug
(I happen to have a 2nd 200LX and a 2nd charger, and was able to see
that the female connector on the 200 itself was OK).

If you can, chack this out; it would be a lot easier to fix.

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Subject:      Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123
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I've used a great freeware graphic editor called irfanview. I think the
developer is Swiss? Anyway, It is usable on Win
95 for me. You may be able to convert it with that _If you can't do it with
LXPIC by S. Peichl (a great program!) available on Super.
Fairly of the cuff, regards, Mike.
At 10:48 PM 4/17/00 +0200, you wrote:
>
>Hi friends
>
>I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a LaTeX
>document.
>Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other format,
>especially PS, EPS of TIFF?
>
>TNX
>daniel
>
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Hi Everybody,

I hope some of you may be able to help me connect to a CISCO router. I
hate to carry a
laptop and my LX and tools.

I used the supplied cable. a male to male DB9 and the LX cable. I
configured comm.,
for VT100 with 8-n-2 and no flow control.  When connected I seem to get
nothing to or
from the router.  I used a Modular connector to connect the RJ 45 pins 3
& 6 together
(in place of the router) and got what ever I typed on the keyboard
displayed on the screen.
The cable appears good unless the signals are mixed up.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

John

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From:         Kat Deutscher <katd@FREEWWWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: loose power plug (female)
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>

A while back I was having the same problem, but it turned
out my adapter was no good.  When I used my modem (thinking
I was using the adapter instead of battery power) my
batteries would go dead in just a few minutes.

A new adapter fixed the problem.

And it gave me an excuse to order an extra for use at work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 22:58
Subject: loose power plug (female)


>I'm finally settled and connected at my new apartment (for
anyone waiting
>for e-mail from me). I have a loose plug (female part on
the LX), where the
>adapter (male part) goes in. The main batteries go flat
while the adapter is
>plugged in. Anyone know if it can be fixed, and cost
estimate?
>
>
>     __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my LX
>  _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside
> (_)/ (_)     ready to put down my thoughts in Spring
>
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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:14:24 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Interesting palmtop

Bumped into this palmtop:

        http://www.oregonscientific.com/osaris.html

It is an EPOC-based palmtop in a bit more durable design than the 5x.
Nice keyboard, fairly full set of apps, connectivity options, and
reasonably priced - 16Meg at US$400.

Larry Zimmerman

________________________________________________________________
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Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:02:56 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Will the 200lx wither away (notice the spelling :)
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From: <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Will the 200lx wither away (notice the spelling :)
>
> Just a quick correction - the HP200 can still do CIS using
Accis4.x
> version.  It supports the newer HMI interface just fine.

Thanks.  I didn't know that.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:30:26 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Fryday wrote:
>
> Sheesh, so touchy.
>
> Allrighty, let me rephrase: 'IMHO AFAIK, there's no other place where you can do
> such powerful find/replace'. Now, as far as the meaning of what is "correct
> information", I'd tend to say it's whatever we believe it to be, but heck,
> anyone feel free to give correct me or anyone with more accurate info.
>
> And in any case people, keep an eye on the context and if you can't find it, ask
> around ;-)
>
> Philippe
>

Other responders have supplied some answers so now I guess you know a
`little further' than you apparently knew. There are _many_ more, but
not, apparently AFAYK.

And `asking around' about the context isn't of much use when one encounters
stuff in an archive that may survive long past particular current
correspondents interest in the topic or in the list. As a result it's generally
worth trying to be both correct and clear. It's what makes the archives
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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:48:12 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Subject:      Re: What Version of Turbo C
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----- Original Message -----
From: "William E. Blankenship" <geologist@mindspring.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:48 PM
Subject: What Version of Turbo C


> Hello,
>   What version of Borland's Turbo C runs best on the palmtop?

I've been using Turbo C 2.0.  It works fine and is fast.  A few
months ago I put Turbo C++ 1.0 (or 1.5, I forget) on the palmtop to
try it out.  I don't care about oop but I like the // comments.
It's a little slower but its not bad.  I haven't decided which to go
with yet.

I've also tried Borland C++ 2.0 out of curiousity.  It works but
it's slower yet.  Not so slow that it's unusable but slow enough
that I wouldn't choose to use it while the faster ones are there.

By the way, I don't use the IDE with any of these.  I don't even
have it installed.  I only use the command line tools and I use my
own editor. (qedit).  So if you intend to use an IDE you might find
it slower.

The IDE isn't as valuable on the palmtop as on a PC.  The debugger
is fairly useless.  It crashes too often to be useful.

The only symbolic debugger I've found to be usable on the palmtop is
Microsoft's Symdeb.  It's a pretty good fit.  It even handles CGA
graphic switches very gracefully.  And if you use the right switches
you can use it for minimal source level debugging.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:52:39 -0700
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From:         "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Odd English (was Re: Plugs)
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Hey, the only constructive answer to my question (re:plugs)
came from Hobchi.  Thanks, Hobchi.  Could you possibly
expand a little on how you created these plugs?  Did you
carve them from rubber?  I keep the 200lx in my back pocket,
and need a solution to keep dirt & lint out of these holes.

At 07:47 PM 4/18/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>   I find the Hobchism to be
>> distracting from the content and refuse to read his posts.
>> There is also a very slight feeling in me of being offended
>> somehow.
>
>Hey folks, let's NOT go down this thread again.
>
>When it last started up several months ago it resulted in a lot of
>heated discussion and unfriendly comments.  The negative feelings
>expressed didn't do anyone any good nor the list either.
>
>If you don't like someone's appends ignore them or filter out.
>
>Cheers... Russ
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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:49:13 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Yep, that would be it ;-)

Philippe

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From: "Ed Keefe" <emkeefe@uswest.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Fryday"
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Using VI


> What was that other
> popular unix editor again?
>
> Are you thinking of Emacs and all its various clones and look-alikes?
>
> .ed.
>
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:04:23 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Well, I knew about Emacs, but not Epsilon (although it a super Emacs clone,
so the jury is out wether or not this is truly a different class of editor
other than vi/emacs). But I'm glad to hear about more of those editors --
especially when they are different than the pitiful editors that we
sometimes have to deal with. I'm still waiting for the "many more", though
;-)

So anyway, is it just me or you're taking this way more seriously than I am?
This is a discussion list, so... we discuss. Accuracy goes up and down all
the time, but we only notice when we are familiar with the subject.

But it doesn't matter. It's all good :-)

A bientot!

Philippe


>
> Other responders have supplied some answers so now I guess you know a
> `little further' than you apparently knew. There are _many_ more, but
> not, apparently AFAYK.
>
> And `asking around' about the context isn't of much use when one
encounters
> stuff in an archive that may survive long past particular current
> correspondents interest in the topic or in the list. As a result it's
generally
> worth trying to be both correct and clear. It's what makes the archives
> worthwhile for others.
>
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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:29:15 -0500
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
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From:         "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
Subject:      Re: CISCO ROUTER
Comments: To: lamaide@JUNO.COM
In-Reply-To:  <20000418.212905.-816977.1.lamaide@juno.com>; from John LaMaide
              on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:28:54PM -0500
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:28:54PM -0500, John LaMaide wrote:
> I hope some of you may be able to help me connect to a CISCO router. I
> hate to carry a
> laptop and my LX and tools.

do it all the time

> I used the supplied cable. a male to male DB9 and the LX cable. I

is the db9 male-to-male a null modem, such as the one in the connectiviy
kit?  it should be.

> configured comm.,
> for VT100 with 8-n-2 and no flow control.  When connected I seem to get

cisco consoles are general setup to be 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit
(8-n-1) and flow control doesn't really make a difference.  you also
want the lines speed set to 9600bps

try that and let's see how it goes.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:08:11 +0000
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123

Many of the viewers suggested are graphics viewers, but I believe the Lotus
PIC format predates them. I'd check the shareware/freeware sites for something
that specifically mentions Lotus 123 PIC conversion.

The PIC data may possibly be an early form of vector drawn graphic compared
to the pixel based formats like BMP, JPG, TIFF, so common conversion
programs may not work (including even the admirable LXPIC).

The desktop 123 used to include a print-graph utility, so maybe it had a
conversion also.  I have v2.3, but only in 5.25" disks and can't check it out
till I get my hands on a 5.25" drive.

- Longden

   >I've used a great freeware graphic editor called irfanview. I think
   >the developer is Swiss? Anyway, It is usable on Win
   >95 for me. You may be able to convert it with that _If you can't do
   >it with LXPIC by S. Peichl (a great program!) available on Super.

   >>I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a
   >>LaTeX document.
   >>Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other
   >>format, especially PS, EPS of TIFF?

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Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:55:42 +0200
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              retained.
From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dial-up in Germany (A traveller from US)
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On Tuesday, 18.04.2000 at 12:48 GMT, Stefan Peichl  wrote:
> The following is a list of all german free dialup ISPs. All you
> have to do is to configure your Internet program with the
> access data of the provider, you want to use. The costs are in
> the range of 3-5 Pf per minute and are billed to the owner of
> the domestic line. You don't have to sign up or register
> anything. The phone numbers are identical all over Germany and
> should also work from Hotels. (This is an extract of LXTEL)
>
>
> Provider    Phonenumber      User                Password
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Arcor       01070-0192070    arcor               internet
> Callino     01075-0192300    callino             internet
> Compuart    01088-0193040    online@trade        online
> Drillisch   010050-0192134   Drillisch@internet  -
> freenet     01019-01929      frei                frei
> GTS         01040-0192340    gts                 internet
> LNonline    01088-0192361    LN                  online
> MSN         01088-0192658    msn                 msn
> Otelo       01011-0191501    otelo               online
> Talknet     01050-019251     talknet             talknet
>
I seriously doubt that any of these numbers would work from a hotel room.
The numbers beginning with 010... are the access numbers of call-by-call
phone service providers. I still have to find a hotel in Germany where
these numbers are not blocked.

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:25:48 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Donglok and Stefan,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:48:20 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> The following is a list of all german free dialup ISPs. All you

Unfortunately, Westin Grand Hotel doesn't allow dialing of 010...
Numbers, so all of these free dialup ISPs are useless for Donglok's
friend.

So he seemms to have to sign up at one of the well-known bigger ISPs,
such as AOL, T-Online or so. But I have no clue how these ISPs handle
signups for a short time (a few weeks?).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:25:50 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi David,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:14:11 -0400, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> This is a particularly useful discussion for those of us who travel
> occasionally. I wonder if someone might consider gradually collecting
> a FAQ on the subject.

Great idea!  I'll have this problem myself, when I travel to Vancouver,
Canada in August. So it would be nice to have a website that lists all
ISPs I could use without signing up with them for 1 year ;-)

So, if someone's interested to set up such a FAQ (David Sargeant?? ;-) )
, he could use Stefan's and my email for the chapter "travelling to
Germany".

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:13:29 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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try using 8-n-1 @ 9600 with a null modem.

i have done this to configure, as5300, 800, 1700 etc

works a treat

---------------------------------------------------------------
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Network Support Consultant
Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:05:37 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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From:         Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
Subject:      Re: SC: swap to disk file vs EMS
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> How much EMS (or what size swap file) do you actually use?

 Volume in drive C is Times2_Tech
 Directory of C:\

 TREMM    SWP   3523584 04-17-00   8:30a

This is for 6 SC sessions each of 570K plus some left over for other programs
to use.

Steve Carder

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              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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From:         Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
Subject:      PCMCIA Reader/Writer
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I'm in the process of resurrecting an old 486/100mz DOS machine. I plan on
putting in two IDE HDs along with an IDE CDROM, internal 33.6 modem,
internal Zip Drive and a 1.44 FDD. The OS will be DOS 6.22 and Win 3.11.
My question pertains to PCMCIA reader/writer units. I'd like to put in an
internal
dual Type I/II/III capable unit and would appreciate hearing from anyone
who has
experience with these units, particularly if anyone can suggest which
units are most reliable. Thanks.


  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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Contact this gentleman:

Dan Buchalter <buchent@pacbell.net>

He has a nice dual card unit that goes for about $30.00 that
worked like a charm in my Pentium 233mHz running Win95 --
plug and play.  It reads and writes to type I, II, III
cards, drives, etc. and can copy between PCMCIA cards and
drives. Makes life with an HP 200LX and OB800CT and a desk
top really convenient!!

David, WA7ZYQ

Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of resurrecting an old 486/100mz DOS machine. I plan on
> putting in two IDE HDs along with an IDE CDROM, internal 33.6 modem,
> internal Zip Drive and a 1.44 FDD. The OS will be DOS 6.22 and Win 3.11.
> My question pertains to PCMCIA reader/writer units. I'd like to put in an
> internal
> dual Type I/II/III capable unit and would appreciate hearing from anyone
> who has
> experience with these units, particularly if anyone can suggest which
> units are most reliable. Thanks.
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
> email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc
>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Unfortunately, Westin Grand Hotel doesn't allow dialing of 010...
> Numbers, so all of these free dialup ISPs are useless for Donglok's
> friend.

some hotels allow, some don't. The hotel may be preselected to
one of the 010.. providers, then the ISP, using this provider
should work without predialing the 010..

The same problem exists with mobile phones. None of the four
German GSM providers allows numbers starting with 010.., hence
you cannot use the free ISPs on your mobile phone.

With mobile phones, you only have access to the big ISPs like
AOL, T-Online, Compuserve. Each GSM provider has it's own and
expensive dialin numbers for these Internet providers.

The whole thing is still very complicated and you need to be an
expert to find your way through. During a vacation in France a
few month ago I ended up with international calls to Germany
to access my German ISP. Nothing else worked :-(

Internet with mobile phones across different countries is a
modern adventure!

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Hi T.
I had the problem of lint and grit collecting
in the port recesses in the outdoors which led
to looking for a way to prevent it and wondered
why no one thought of mktng such a doo hickey.

I kame upon a solution when I found a give away
plastic diskette holder at COMDEX a koupla yeers
ago that I reely had no use for. Then I thought
to kut it up into little pieces to fit it in the
recesses and it seemed to fit snugly and did the
job.  At the time i had it in the list.

I also suggest you karry the LX in a hip/belt pouch
which not only protects the unit, but is more
konvenient, komfortable and prevents it frum getting
knocked when yu sit.  The pouches are not expensive.

>If you don't like someone's appends ignore them or
> filter out.


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Hi Jeff
why isn't the word 'phonics' spelled
the way that it sounds.....
>
Sorry, my speling aint allways up to par.
> Jeff


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<<<<Believe it or not, I kept my mouth shut when he took out
his machine. After about 30 minutes I took mine out. I
never said anything to him. He did about 80% of the talking
(he was a salesperson by his card).>>>>

Avi,

He sent me an email, too, asking if buying a 200lx from you would
get you to stop sending emails, snailmails, telegrams, singing
telegrams, signs trailing behind airplanes, blimps, parades of cars
with bullhorns and phone calls at 3:00 am to every member of his
family and everyone in his workplace.

I told him it would surely satisfy you.  What is my commission?

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<<<<I use this: 200LX = "invention" of Pi (3.14...)
        WinCE = Boole & Babbage's Differential Machine>>>>

Wouldn't it be more correct to say that Pi was discovered and Pie
was invented?

200lx = discovery of Pi
   (unchangable, infinitely discoverable, helps us understand many
things)

WinCE = invention of Pie
   (sticky, melts easily, very tasty, ruins clothes, helps us get
fat)

Barry

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At what size flash disk are special drivers needed?  I was thinking
it was around 512MB, but have been told that the 440MB cards need a
driver.  Could someone explain?

--

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3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:21:09 -0400
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I have used both a Databook TMB-240 (probably not available new anywhere)
and an SCM Microsystems SwapBox Classic (probably available as model
SBI-D2P) ISA bus PCMCIA adapter in a 486-class machine with Dos 6.22 and
Windows 3.11 (and later Windows 95).  The SCM Microsystems unit is now in my
Pentium III running Windows 98 and the Databook unit is in my wife's Pentium
II running Windows 95.

The Databook can accomodate up to two type II cards or one type III and it
has activity lights for each socket.  The SCM Microsystems adapter has no
lights on the front panel but it can accomodate up to two type II cards or
one type II and one type III.

These units are still seeing daily use, several years after I bought them.
What can go wrong with them?  They're mostly solid-state electronics.
Almost everything I have tried in them has worked: RAM cards, ATA Flash
(actually Compact Flash in adapters), SCSI host adapters, Modems, ethernet
cards, combination ethernet/Modem cards, and my Nikon Coolpix 100 camera.
The single exception has been older linear flash cards (readable without
problems in HP 95LX/100LX/200LX and readable and writable in Apple Newtons).

The SCM Microsystems unit was chosen because it showed up on the Microsoft
Hardware Compatibility Lists (HCL) for both Windows 95 and Windows NT, so I
figured the software support would continue.

Alan

>From: Bob Christopher Ýmailto:bc@CHISP.NET¨
>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 8:35 AM

I'm in the process of resurrecting an old 486/100mz DOS machine. I plan on
putting in two IDE HDs along with an IDE CDROM, internal 33.6 modem,
internal Zip Drive and a 1.44 FDD. The OS will be DOS 6.22 and Win 3.11.
My question pertains to PCMCIA reader/writer units. I'd like to put in an
internal
dual Type I/II/III capable unit and would appreciate hearing from anyone
who has
experience with these units, particularly if anyone can suggest which
units are most reliable. Thanks.

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I commonly use VI for deleting the 300+ lines of headers off
email that's been forwarded too many times.

My most uncommon use of VI was at COMDEX Tuesday.  I
attended a tutorial about making a script in Linux.  VI was
one of the choices of editor.  I never heard of the other
one.  K-something.

(I learned VI from using a local UNIX BBS years ago.)

Kat

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Sorry, I should have supplied a pointer for more information on SCM
Microsystems.  You can find their page with the SwapBox products, for both
ISA and PCI buses here:

http://www.scmmicrosystems.com/security/swapbox.html

Alan

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Subject:      Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives
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I also use Grandview 2.0 and I have yet to see any Y2K problem with it.
The year is displayed in 4 digits.  February 29 was recognized - calender view
shows correctly.

I think some of the problem getting it released may stem from a lawsuit (I think Brown
Bag vs. Symnatec).   PC Outline was earlier than Grandview and by the same programmer.
However I believe Symantec won the suite so there may be the possibility of release to the
public.

If you see a copy for sale - GRAB IT UP!!


Mike

> Date:          Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:11:31 -0700
> From:          Lawrence Fast <lfast@NATIVELAW.COM>
> Subject:       Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives
>
> With DOS, my wandering eye focused firstly upon PC Outline and then, fickle
> soul that I am, to the outliner love of my life - GrandView.  I have been
> using GrandView for over five years and have yet to find anything of equal
> capacity and flexibility.  Although I had heard that it was not Y2K
> compliant, someone forgot to mention that supposed fact to my version.  I
> have been using GrandView since the turn of the century without any
> problems at all.
>
> Unfortunately Symantec has not released GrandView into the common pool of
> software knowledge.  I also understand that Symantec continues to charge
> the usual combination of human limbs for a registered version of GrandView.
> However, my information on that subject is quite dated.
>
> So -- If you are still functioning in the HP200LX DOS environment and want
> a fully functional industrial strength outliner where ever you go,
> GrandView is still a viable alternative.
>
> >From:    D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
> >Subject: Outliners and Y2k
>
> >Hi.   I have discovered that Thinktank is not Y2k compliant.   It seems
> >to work fine,
> >but it forces the system date to 8/15/99, so I cannot deal with that.
> >I am currently playing with Kamas, which appears to be powerful and easy.
> >No Y2k problems so far.
> >Anyone had any luck contacting the author for registration/updates?
>
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Framework 4 also seems unaffected by Y2K.

I use it for outlining and for building reports and documents, on both my
notebook computer and the 200LX.  It's also good as a quick and simple
spreadsheet.

Just out of curiosity, I know some members use, or used, both Grandview and
Framework, and wondered what feature(s) in Grandview recommend it over FW?

FW is an integrated package that happens to use an outline as its integration
point.  Is Grandview more than just an outliner?

- Longden





Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET> on 04/19/2000 04:19:45 AM

Please respond to melancon@microgear.net

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Subject:  Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives




I also use Grandview 2.0 and I have yet to see any Y2K problem with it.
The year is displayed in 4 digits.  February 29 was recognized - calender view
shows correctly.

I think some of the problem getting it released may stem from a lawsuit (I think
Brown
Bag vs. Symnatec).   PC Outline was earlier than Grandview and by the same
programmer.
However I believe Symantec won the suite so there may be the possibility of
release to the
public.

If you see a copy for sale - GRAB IT UP!!

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> You either have to be from Chicago, the Bronx or Taiwan! Can't figure it
> out from your email address, but I enjoy your writing and
> spelling-soitenly uneek! You ought to write a book in the same style.
> You might sell lots!

Actually, I'm from Da Bronx and I've been into this thread in its last
incarnation.

As others have said, I find it hard to read and I know enough foreigners
have commented that it is hard to read.  He had cleaned it up for a
while but seems to have lapsed back.

If he's comfortable I guess that is what matters.

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I have never seen FW in operation.  The spreadsheet is not part of Grandview.
It is however more than an outliner.  An item can be tied to a date and/or categories
and/or a document.

You have 4 "views" of your data.
Outline - just like it sounds
Document - a page view of a memo or letter.
Category - shows by categories.
Date- shows by date.

There is a nice spellchecker (I think it is disabled in the demo version)

I also have Grandview Trial Size (demo version) which is crippled in that
it can't save or print, but you can get an idea if you like the program enough
to scrounge for a copy.  If anybody wants a copy of the demo let me know.
(It's 344k)



Mike
> Date:          Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:43:24 -0700
> From:          Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
> Subject:       Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives
>
> Framework 4 also seems unaffected by Y2K.
>
> I use it for outlining and for building reports and documents, on both my
> notebook computer and the 200LX.  It's also good as a quick and simple
> spreadsheet.
>
> Just out of curiosity, I know some members use, or used, both Grandview and
> Framework, and wondered what feature(s) in Grandview recommend it over FW?
>
> FW is an integrated package that happens to use an outline as its integration
> point.  Is Grandview more than just an outliner?
>
> - Longden
>

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Hi,

sorry for the late reply. I seemed to miss some postings in the thread, s=
o
I'm answering to this one. The original problem was finding a provider in
Germany which works from everywhere? Here it is:

Dellnet is a 'real' free provider as you dial a normal number (it has pop=
s
in all big cities, ~70 in Germany) and just pay the price for the call (n=
ot
for the internet itself). As these are normal numbers, you can dial in fr=
om
everywhere. It depends on having the right number if you pay for a long
distance call or for a local call, but it works with each of these number=
s.
Here are the 2 numbers I use:

030/95999606 (Berlin)
07731 / 969906 (Singen)

user: freesurf@dellnet.de passwd: viaginterkom

It has even an stmp server:

mail.planet-interkom.de

If you want the dial in numbers for the 70 cities, mail me.=20

> some hotels allow, some don't. The hotel may be preselected to
> one of the 010.. providers, then the ISP, using this provider
> should work without predialing the 010..

A colleague of mine travels a lot, he hasn't find any hotel which allows
these numbers. The reason is that most of the hotels can't bill the calls
via alternative phone providers. But dial in via Dellnet should always be
possible (except from 9 pm to 9:15 pm, as the cheap local calls start in
Germany).

> With mobile phones, you only have access to the big ISPs like
> AOL, T-Online, Compuserve. Each GSM provider has it's own and
> expensive dialin numbers for these Internet providers.

This in partially true, you can use dellnet from your mobile phone and pa=
y
the city call rate (15 pf/min at the moment). This is a lot cheaper than
using the 'built-in' services for normally 19 pf to 69 pf. Daniel uses hi=
s
university account, which also has a normal numbers, so he has a quite
cheap access via mobile phone.
 =20
> The whole thing is still very complicated and you need to be an
> expert to find your way through. During a vacation in France a

Hehe, as a student I have loooots of time to experience all that ;-).=20

Hope all that helped
G=FCnther=20

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This is for those of you who are getting less than adequate service out
of your Ni-XX batteries.

Quite suddenly my laptop would only run about 15 minutes on the battery.
This was much less than the one hour when I bought it a year ago.  A
friend said it had developed a "memory".  He told me to run it until it
went really dead.  I set the computer on DOS and it ran for two and a
half hours telling me the battery was critically low, before it finally
shut off.
Then it took two and a half hours to charge back up to 100%.  It ran for
an hour and a half on the battery yesterday (took two and a half hours to
charge back up) and ran for an hour and 45 minutes today.  Perhaps these
Ni-XX batteries have to be really drained once in awhile to keep them
happy?

This is strictly anicdotal evidence as I am a preacher not a scientist.
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You can also get it at
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/products/grandview/ver2/updates/gvtrial.zip

So far the program seems to want to take over as a PIM and
database manager (somewhat), but I am not sure I want to use
it for that.  It also seems to have limits on file size and
levels of outline.  Kamas doesn't have such limits, although
it has less power (it's only an outliner).

Domingo
------Original Message------
From: Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 19, 2000 12:32:26 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives

I also have Grandview Trial Size (demo version) which is
crippled in that
it can't save or print, but you can get an idea if you like
the program enough
to scrounge for a copy.  If anybody wants a copy of the demo
let me know.
(It's 344k)

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Subject:      Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123
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Hijaak (commercial program) does convert from lotus 123 pic to tiff files.

From the comand line

convert yourfile.pic newfile.tif  will convert to uncompressed tiff
convert yourfile.pic newfile.ctf  will convert to compressed tiff

Hijaak also came with Wordstar 5, I think.


I also checked Graphics Workshop (Alchemy Mindworks shareware)-
which lists pic files as being handled, but the graph I did in lotus 123
to test wasn't read by GWS.

If you just need a file converted and don't have access to anything else that
works send it to me and I'll return it converted.


Mike


> Date:          Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:08:50 -0400
> From:          Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
> Subject:       Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123

> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a LaTeX
> > document.
> > Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other format,
> > especially PS, EPS of TIFF?
>
> HiJaak and its variations (HiJaak Graphics Suite, HiJaak Pro)
> are graphics conversion programs.

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This is behavior I'd expect of NiCad, but not NiMH.  The former is notorious for
its "memory", while the latter is popular for its relative lack of it.

Your note mentions Ni-MH in the header, but Ni-XX elsewhere.  Can you confirm
whether you have NiCad or NiMH?

- Longden





William Schultz <revwkschultz@JUNO.COM> on 04/19/2000 10:54:24 AM

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This is for those of you who are getting less than adequate service out
of your Ni-XX batteries.

Quite suddenly my laptop would only run about 15 minutes on the battery.
This was much less than the one hour when I bought it a year ago.  A
friend said it had developed a "memory".  He told me to run it until it
went really dead.  I set the computer on DOS and it ran for two and a
half hours telling me the battery was critically low, before it finally
shut off.
Then it took two and a half hours to charge back up to 100%.  It ran for
an hour and a half on the battery yesterday (took two and a half hours to
charge back up) and ran for an hour and 45 minutes today.  Perhaps these
Ni-XX batteries have to be really drained once in awhile to keep them
happy?

This is strictly anicdotal evidence as I am a preacher not a scientist.

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Domingo

Thanks for the link - I couldn't remember where I got it from!

I don't use GV as a PIM or "database" either.   It is nice for
handling things like a list of tasks in a project
- dates for completing (date)
- people assigned (category)

My outlining needs are not very demanding in size or depth of levels.

Mike
> Date:          Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:02:54 -0400
> From:          dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
> Subject:       Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives
>
> You can also get it at
> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/products/grandview/ver2/updates/gvtrial.zip
>
> So far the program seems to want to take over as a PIM and
> database manager (somewhat), but I am not sure I want to use
> it for that.  It also seems to have limits on file size and
> levels of outline.  Kamas doesn't have such limits, although
> it has less power (it's only an outliner).
>
> Domingo

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The problem with the PIC format is that it's the same filename extension used by
123 graphs (as saved output), and it's also a common extension for a non-Lotus
graphics standard.  Most graphics programs won't deal with 123 .PICs because the
123 format stores object and parameter data (and in their own proprietary
format) while graphics program USUALLY expect a PIC file to have a different
layout dealing with data at the pixel level.

123 (and any real 123/PIC convertors), must literally read the 123 PIC data and
redraw the image.

If Hijaak works for 123 PICs, then it's because someone there made a special
effort for 123 ... not surprising given that 123 PICs were once the only game in
town ... long ago.

- Longden





Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET> on 04/19/2000 06:03:46 AM

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Subject:  Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123




Hijaak (commercial program) does convert from lotus 123 pic to tiff files.

From the comand line

convert yourfile.pic newfile.tif  will convert to uncompressed tiff
convert yourfile.pic newfile.ctf  will convert to compressed tiff

Hijaak also came with Wordstar 5, I think.


I also checked Graphics Workshop (Alchemy Mindworks shareware)-
which lists pic files as being handled, but the graph I did in lotus 123
to test wasn't read by GWS.

If you just need a file converted and don't have access to anything else that
works send it to me and I'll return it converted.

>
> > I'd like to embed a graphic made with Lotus 123 (*.PIC) into a LaTeX
> > document.
> > Does anyone know hoe I can convert this PIC format to any other format,
> > especially PS, EPS of TIFF?

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Avi makes some great points and I often relate the same sort of plusses and
minuses to my other technology decisions.  But first I have a question: How
many of you can actually fit the 200LX in your shirt pockets?  It does not
fit in mine, even when I remove my pens.

Now on to the parallel...  I have a neat little digital camera; the Nikon
Coolpix 100 (if you want to see more about it, look at my camera page
http://web.raex.com/~striegel/Camera).  It's only capable of 512 x 480
resolution and has limited storage built in, so I keep considering the newer
cameras on the market to replace it.  Every time I find I have almost
decided to make the buy, some compromised features keep me holding onto the
Coolpix 100.  I want higher resolution and the ability to store images on
Compact Flash or the IBM Microdrive but these new cameras never have battery
life to even come near what I'm used to (5-6 months on 4 alkaline AA's).
And if they can use the convenience of commonly-available AA cells, they
often seem to be too large to carry around everywhere, as I do with this
camera.  So I'm still waiting for technology to catch up.

On an entirely different point, the pins in the serial port opening used to
worry me and years ago, when I had a 95LX, I used a soft plastic plug, taken
from the end of a tube of integrated circuit DIPs, to fill it when I carried
it in my pocket.  I haven't used one for several years with my 100LX and now
200LX and I have never bent a single pin.

Alan

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> Great idea!  I'll have this problem myself, when I travel to Vancouver,
> Canada in August. So it would be nice to have a website that lists all
> ISPs I could use without signing up with them for 1 year ;-)

Vancouver, BC is so beautiful and with so many things to see and do, you
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What is the version number of the DOS Quicken that runs on the LX and is
Y2K?

Jeff

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| What was that other
| popular unix editor again?

you may be thinking of 'grep' ?

  -Agrajag

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sold, traded and generally controlled at will."

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I did a websearch on AltaVista (using "graphics conversion lotus 123 pic") and
came up with this link:

http://www.lemkesoft.de/index.html

I guess it's a German shareware program (so you can support your local economy)
for 46,40DM.

Imports 130 graphic formats (including Lotus-PIC) and exports 40 formats
(including TIFF).

Don't you just love having options <g>?

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Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:26:55 -0400 (EDT)

01h21m51s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> This is behavior I'd expect of NiCad, but not NiMH.  The former is =
notorious
> for its "memory", while the latter is popular for its relative lack of =
it.

---------
> William Schultz <revwkschultz@JUNO.COM> on 04/19/2000 10:54:24 AM
>
> Perhaps these Ni-XX batteries have to be really drained once in awhile =
to
> keep them happy?

Yes! Unfortunately, both NiCd and NiMH suffer from gradual voltage
depression  and loss of capacity if repetitively partially discharged,
then recharged.  This is somewhat different from what used to be
called "memory".  Capacity can be restored by discharging to 1V per
cell, or lower, then fully charging.  If anybody wants to hear it from
the horse's mouth, I'll dig out my copy of the Panasonic NiMH Technical
Manual.

The difference between NiCd and NiMH for loss of capacity is that it
usually happens slower with NiMH.  I get about 6-8 months in the
palmtop before the decrease bothers me.  YMMV.


Later,

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hmm, grep is a utility to find text using regular expressions rather than being
an editor. but it's definitely another kick ass program!

Philippe

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> | What was that other
> | popular unix editor again?
>
> you may be thinking of 'grep' ?
>
>   -Agrajag
>
> "Time is viewed in the information age as a commodity that can be bought,
> sold, traded and generally controlled at will."
>
> "I'm really totally together, I even think I should be."
>
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Hi all, can anyone identify the following ASCII format for
me? I have seen it before (I think in connection with one of
Andreas' programs), but I don't recall what it is (I am
trying to convert a large Kamas outline to Grandview with no
luck so far) this is a very small test outline:


.HEAD 0 +  testing
.HEAD 1 +  First Item
.HEAD 2 +  Down a level (subhead)
.HEAD 3 -  Down another level (sub-subhead)
.HEAD 2 -  Another one
.HEAD 1 +  Second Item
.HEAD 2 -  A subhead
.HEAD 1 -  Third Item
.HEAD 1 -  Fourth Item

TIA

Domingo

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Whenever I have a big or complex editing job I use Xedit on IBM's
VM/CMS OS.  Kedit is close but it doesn't support prefix macros.

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Game 110 is pretty hard if you're looking for a challenge.
I haven't solved it yet...

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> 200lx = discovery of Pi
>    (unchangable, infinitely discoverable, helps us understand many
> things)
>
> WinCE = invention of Pie
>    (sticky, melts easily, very tasty, ruins clothes, helps us get
> fat)

I like this version! :)

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Striegel, Alan wrote:
> Avi makes some great points and I often relate the same sort of plusses and
> minuses to my other technology decisions.  But first I have a question: How
> many of you can actually fit the 200LX in your shirt pockets?  It does not
> fit in mine, even when I remove my pens.

I think you need a new brand of shirts :-) ... All my dress
type shirts, not knits, have pockets that fit the Palmtop -
even sometimes _with_ a pen or two. But this is not a
critical problem, and we won't take bandwidth here to solve
that :)

> Every time I find I have almost decided to make the buy,
> some compromised features keep me holding onto the Coolpix
> 100.

The parallel with 200LX is excellent: Some other machines
are much much better in several aspects, but the 200LX
seems to have more features that it covers for more people
with fewer compromises. Kinda magical.

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Barry wrote:
> <<<<Believe it or not, I kept my mouth shut when he took out
> his machine. After about 30 minutes I took mine out. I
> never said anything to him. He did about 80% of the talking
> (he was a salesperson by his card).>>>>
>
> Avi,
>
> He sent me an email, too, asking if buying a 200lx from you would
> get you to stop sending emails, snailmails, telegrams, singing
> telegrams, signs trailing behind airplanes, blimps, parades of cars
> with bullhorns and phone calls at 3:00 am to every member of his
> family and everyone in his workplace.
>
> I told him it would surely satisfy you.  What is my commission?

But I really did not start the conversation, and I wanted
to get out of it because I had work to do. I all
seriousness..

But the image you painted there is hilarious! :-) I am not
that hard on selling palmtops because it is such a personal
choice. In all my talks on handheld computing I push 200LX,
PalmPilots, and Psions, and explain that WinCE machines are
ok, but only for "relatively tethered" operations, i.e.
when you are close to the homebase.

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On 18 Apr 2000, at 19:10, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

>I just checked Notepad on my machine.  It won't even open a 130K file.  I
>think the 32K limit is still there.
>
>Notetab, on the other hand, will open as large a file as you have memory.
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>

Honestly! I've just created a 5MB txt file and opened it from explorer with notepad.
(shift-right-click for open with)
Checking in Task manager (this is NT4 sp3) it shows notepad as using 12MB of RAM,
methinks there is some wastage there!

There is (was) a bug with notepad, whereby depending on how it was called (progammatically)
it would not open even medium sized files files. I think it had something to do with the difference
between exec() and system() (i.e whether the shell started notepad or not).


Anyway, off topic again!


Mike

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In my experience, WinNT's notepad will open files that are nearly unlimited,
while Win9x's notepad is limited to 32K.

--Bill


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On 18 Apr 2000, at 19:10, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

>I just checked Notepad on my machine.  It won't even open a 130K file.  I
>think the 32K limit is still there.
>
>Notetab, on the other hand, will open as large a file as you have memory.
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>

Honestly! I've just created a 5MB txt file and opened it from explorer with
notepad.
(shift-right-click for open with)
Checking in Task manager (this is NT4 sp3) it shows notepad as using 12MB of
RAM,
methinks there is some wastage there!

There is (was) a bug with notepad, whereby depending on how it was called
(progammatically)
it would not open even medium sized files files. I think it had something to
do with the difference
between exec() and system() (i.e whether the shell started notepad or not).


Anyway, off topic again!


Mike

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Agrajag wrote:

> | What was that other
> | popular unix editor again?
>
> you may be thinking of 'grep' ?

nah, it was "ed" ;-)

but who needs a text editor anyway when you can simply do a
"cat /dev/tty > file", or under DOS "copy con file". I've written many
small batch/script files that way...


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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Game 110 is pretty hard if you're looking for a challenge.
> I haven't solved it yet...

Speaking of Freecell, are there any games that solve themselves (or
almost) or does the algorithm used take this into account?


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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Russel Brooks wrote:

Ý...¨
> When it last started up several months ago it resulted in a lot of
> heated discussion and unfriendly comments.  The negative feelings
> expressed didn't do anyone any good nor the list either.

Really? last time it did have an effect and if you ask me it did a lot of
good, even if it didn't seem to last, sadly.


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Does Framework have collapsible levels?  That's why I don't
use WordPerfect or Word for Outlines, because they don't
hide the sublevels (AFAIK anyway).

Grandview seems to be just a glorified outliner (to be fair,
I am just learning to use it).

Domingo

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From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 19, 2000 4:43:24 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives


Framework 4 also seems unaffected by Y2K.

I use it for outlining and for building reports and
documents, on both my notebook computer and the 200LX.  It's
also good as a quick and simple spreadsheet.

Just out of curiosity, I know some members use, or used,
both Grandview and Framework, and wondered what feature(s)
in Grandview recommend it over FW?

FW is an integrated package that happens to use an outline
as its integration point.  Is Grandview more than just an
outliner?

- Longden





Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET> on 04/19/2000
04:19:45 AM

Please respond to melancon@microgear.net

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Subject:  Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives




I also use Grandview 2.0 and I have yet to see any Y2K
problem with it.
The year is displayed in 4 digits.  February 29 was
recognized - calender view
shows correctly.

I think some of the problem getting it released may stem
from a lawsuit (I think
Brown
Bag vs. Symnatec).   PC Outline was earlier than Grandview
and by the same
programmer.
However I believe Symantec won the suite so there may be the
possibility of
release to the
public.

If you see a copy for sale - GRAB IT UP!!

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> Date:    Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:44:54 -0500
> From:    Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
> Subject: Re: Using VI
>
> What was that other
> popular unix editor again?

What text editor?  :-)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@ftel.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Quiet unassuming Avi
> >
> > He sent me an email, too, asking if buying a 200lx from you
would
> > get you to stop sending emails, snailmails, telegrams, singing
> > telegrams, signs trailing behind airplanes, blimps, parades of
cars
> > with bullhorns and phone calls at 3:00 am to every member of his
> > family and everyone in his workplace.
> >
> > I told him it would surely satisfy you.  What is my commission?
>
> But I really did not start the conversation, and I wanted
> to get out of it because I had work to do. I all
> seriousness..

It's a joke.  It's meant to be so silly no-one could possibly take
it seriously.  But you did.  Hmmm.  Is it really not so silly after
all?  :)

Or are you just trying to avoid paying my commission?

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<<<<The PIC data may possibly be an early form of vector drawn
graphic compared
to the pixel based formats like BMP, JPG, TIFF, so common conversion
programs may not work (including even the admirable LXPIC).>>>>

That's true.  Pic files are vector files.

I used to use a shareware file converter called Graphics Workshop.
I think it's still being updated and it's probably not hard to find
at the major download sites.  I'm pretty sure it could handle Lotus
Pic files.  If new versions dont, I might be able to find an old
version.  But please try to find it elsewhere first.  It won't be
easy to find in my old disks.  I'm pretty sure I have it though.

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Most pleased to see that we have a discussion going on a couple of my
favourite tools - GrandView and Framework.  Both date from the "Golden Age
of Software" and both seem to have lived on well beyond their rivals of ten
years ago.

Framework appears to have been taken over by an aficionado and is still
very much alive and well.  See the Framework website at www.framework.com.
They even have a 200LX version of which I would be most interested in
obtaining an independent evaluation.  If anyone on the list is using the
Framework V palmtop version, please let us know how it works.

GrandView was never really comfortable in any one software category.  It
was sold as a PIM because it does have a number of significant PIM like
qualities - listing to-dos by date and category, etc.  However, it is as an
outliner, project manager, and idea organizer that I use GrandView.  I tend
to think of the world through the metaphor of roots and branches and
outlining is superb for those of us having that type of mental "hard
wiring".

I still use Framework because an anthropologist that I work with has been
addicted to Framework for about fifteen years and I need to read her
materials.  Framework is superior to GrandView in creating finished
documents.  GrandView, at least for me, is much quicker and more intuitive
down where the fingertips meet the keyboard.  I much prefer to organize and
then reorganize blocks of text into a coherent whole through GrandView than
through Framework.

Fine polishing of GrandView created and organized materials is relatively
easy.  Simply export everything into a WordPerfect 5.1 file using the
GrandView export command.  The resultant file can then easily be read by
almost all Win word processors as well as WordPerfect 5.1.

There appears to be a rebirth of interest in outliners recently.  See
www.outliners.com.  Many seem to be calling for a porting of GrandView to
the Windows platform.  However, nothing compares to easy portability and
GrandView on the 200LX still wins that particular competition.   A heavy
laptop tends to spoil the effect of the book of verses, the wine, etc.

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<<<<<The PIC data may possibly be an early form of vector drawn
graphic compared
to the pixel based formats like BMP, JPG, TIFF, so common conversion
programs may not work (including even the admirable LXPIC).>>>>>>

I just found an old version of Graphic Workshop and it does have a
pic file but it's not Lotus's so it won't help.

They do have the file format on Wotsits under the name picfile.

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Subject:      Re: Will the 200lx wither away (notice the spelling :)

Barry writes:
> <<<<Barry's point regarding protocol changes is valid--when LXTCP
> stops
> working with current protocols we'll have some work to do.  We have
> the source, though.  And I bet that would be a project Rod would be
> willing to offer help on, if not actively support.>>>>
>
> That's the problem I was talking about.  And maybe with the first
> change or 2 Rod would help out.  Or maybe someone else would.

The point about open source software is not whether I will be
around to help out, but that you have the source code, so you
always have the option of paying someone else to do it.  If
it's important enough for you that you'll pay lots of money,
then I'm sure there are lots of programmers who will do the
work for you (just look at all the people making money fixing
Y2K problems in Cobol programs).  Or you'll do the
self-training so that you can fix it yourself.

LXTCP didn't materialise out of thin air.  It is based on a
TCP/IP stack which is over 10 years old.  Some would consider
WatTCP to be dead, but Stephen Lawson proved last year that
you can still get at least four or five developers together to
fix a problem or add a feature (in this case it was DHCP).

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Subject:      Re: LXgFTP version 0.91 released

Mike Kopplin writes:
> Version 0.91 of LXgFTP, the graphical FTP client, is now available at
>
>    http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxgftp.htm

So Mike, are you going to release the source code to LXgFTP ?

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:06:33 -0400
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Hello,

I have a Thaddeus 2x 64 mb palmtop that I use everyday. My most
commonly used applications are as follows. These are the ones I
find myself using on a daily basis. Listed in order of
priority.

 WWW/LX Plus (includes HV, Post/LX)
 ABC/LX
 HV as a stand alone app to view ebooks or texts I've scanned.
 PalEdit (my main text editor)
 Word Finder (Thesaurus program for use with PalEdit)
 MaxDos
 Tremm (Thanks Mack - very stable EMS)
 Lotus 123 (My number one choice for a spreadsheet)
 Norton Commander 5.0 for linking with my desktop
 Microsoft Works 2.0A for DOS (for the database functions)
 Mineral (a great tiny mineral ID program when I don't know
 what I'm looking at.)
 HPCalc (Solver mainly when my HP48GX is not handy)
 Minifax
 LXPic (great for use with my Digital Photos on CF Card)
 LXGPS
 LXMap
 HPLX Database
 Defender of The Crown (great old game I bought in 1986)
 Rogue (it is not a real computer if it doesn't have this on
 it!) <bg>
 Golf (Cards not clubs, not pun intended) Great game, by the
 way.
 Windoze 3.0
 Word 2.1 installed (to appease die hard windoze friends who
 can't/won't read anything unless it is stamped MS) <G>
 Excel installed (same as above)

The list goes on but this would not be possible without my
200LX. I use it much, much more that I use my HP Omnibook
3000CTX anymore. I only use my desktop for those graphic
intensive applications like Corel Draw, Picture Publisher,
scanner apps to make maps for use with the 200LX and of course
to make interesting labels for CDs I burn to hold all my 200LX
software I've collected over the years.

It is a shame HP can't find a suitable replacement for our
pocket PCs. I had one of the WinCE devices and prompty sold it.
It wasn't what I needed at all. This is progress?

WEB

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Hello,

I just bought a 200LX 1 meg for fifty dollars (US) that is
perfect working order. The hinge is just barely showing tiny
fractures viewable with a 10X hand lens. It had a serial number
starting with SG5... I guess I can assume the machine was
manufactured in 1995. It even came with a set of NiMH
rechargeables in it. This resulted from a friend bought a Palm
Pilot. I give him a month and I will probably sell it back to
him, with just a small defection fee <g>. If not I have a third
one to stick on a shelf for when I need a backup. Looks like I
will have a 200LX around for decades to come.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:28:42 +0000
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Graphics Workshop does files with .pic extensions, but it handles
PC Paint  .pic (pictor) files, not Lotus 123 graph  .pic files.  Confusing?


Mike

> Date:          Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:42:21 -0500
> From:          Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Subject:       Pic files
> <<<<The PIC data may possibly be an early form of vector drawn
> graphic compared
> to the pixel based formats like BMP, JPG, TIFF, so common conversion
> programs may not work (including even the admirable LXPIC).>>>>
>
> That's true.  Pic files are vector files.
>
> I used to use a shareware file converter called Graphics Workshop.
> I think it's still being updated and it's probably not hard to find
> at the major download sites.  I'm pretty sure it could handle Lotus
> Pic files.  If new versions dont, I might be able to find an old
> version.  But please try to find it elsewhere first.  It won't be
> easy to find in my old disks.  I'm pretty sure I have it though.
>
> Barry
>
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>
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jeff Johns wrote:

> What is the version number of the DOS Quicken that runs on the LX and
> is Y2K?

The last DOS version was version 8, and it runs quite well on the 200LX.

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<<<<Then it took two and a half hours to charge back up to 100%.  It
ran for
an hour and a half on the battery yesterday (took two and a half
hours to
charge back up) and ran for an hour and 45 minutes today.  Perhaps
these
Ni-XX batteries have to be really drained once in awhile to keep
them
happy?>>>>

That's the procedure that's reccomended when the battery is new and
every few months thereafter.  It's reccomended by every laptop
manufacturer that I'm aware of and by every battery manufacturer
that I'm aware of.

The engineers say there is no memory anymore and then go on to
describe other things that sound to me exactly like memory.  So,
while memory might not exist, it's still a serious problem. :)

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Rod Whitby wrote:
> Mike Kopplin writes:
> > Version 0.91 of LXgFTP, the graphical FTP client, is now available at
> >
> >    http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxgftp.htm
>
> So Mike, are you going to release the source code to LXgFTP ?

Yes, I promise :)

There are a few things I want to work on yet. Then I will be cleaning up
and reorganizing the code, adding some better comments etc. After that
I'll release it. Should be fairly soon.

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>Game 110 is pretty hard if you're looking for a challenge.
>I haven't solved it yet...

I spoke a bit too soon.  I tried attacking 110 from a different angle
and was able to finally solve it.

cheers... Russ

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<<<<How many of you can actually fit the 200LX in your shirt
pockets?  It does not
fit in mine, even when I remove my pens.>>>>

It fits just fine in my shirt pocket.  I wear casual shirts, not
dress shirts now that I'm retired.  I think it used to fit in my
dress shirt pockets but I'm not sure.

But it sticks out too far on top and it's not safe if I bend over so
I never carry it in my shirt pocket.  I always carry mine in my left
pants pocket.

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>>>>Coolpix 100.  I want higher resolution and the ability to store
images on
Compact Flash or the IBM Microdrive but these new cameras never have
battery
life to even come near what I'm used to (5-6 months on 4 alkaline
AA's).
And if they can use the convenience of commonly-available AA cells,
they
often seem to be too large to carry around everywhere, as I do with
this
camera.  So I'm still waiting for technology to catch up.<<<<<<<

I bought a Kodak DC280 a couple of months ago.  It has both
1760x1168 and 1280x960 resolution.  I nearly always use the lower
resolution since I don't usually print the pictures and I can't tell
the difference on the screen.  It comes with a 32 meg Sandisk flash
card (the box said 20 meg but it had a 32 meg inside).  It saves in
jpg files and the low res are about 100-250k and the high res are
about 200-450k.  So it holds a lot of pictures on one card.  The
card works fine in my PC compact flash reader and thats how I
transfer the files, but it also has both serial and usb support
built in.

It's amazingly full of features and there is a lot of control.  It
has both physical and digatal zoom, closup, infinite focus,
adjustable flash to compensate for tungsten bulbs or florescent
bulbs (and this feature really makes a big difference), and more
features than I can remember at the moment.

It's also fairly small although there are smaller cameras.  It is a
little expensive but it's well worth it.  Actually it's probably not
as expensive as the Nikon.

I can't tell you about battery life.  I used Alkalines at first but
after 4 or 5 pictures taken quickly in a row with alkaline the
camera thinks the batteries are dead and you have to turn it off and
back on to take pictures.  That's because alkaline can't really
handle a large draw.  So I switched to NIMH, which doesn't have that
problem, while the alkalines were pretty fresh.  I've taken probably
60 or 100 pictures with the NIMH and it's still going strong on the
first charge.  It uses 4 batteries and comes with a set of Kodak
NIMH batteries and a set of alkalines so you can use it while you're
charging the NIMH.  Lots and lots of attention to detail.

I suggest looking into it.

Barry


  But the real reason I picked it was that after looking at sample
pictures from each camera in the stores and on the web I found that
it just simply took better and brighter pictures.

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Message text written by HPLX Mailing List
>What is the version number of the DOS Quicken that runs on the LX and is=

Y2K?<

I Believe versions 6 and up.  Last release is 8.  I use 6 and am awaiting=

my 8 to arrive.  Got them both for 5 bucks each.....all with manuals!! =

what a bargain.

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NiMHs may not be all similar in this respect. I get the impression
most manufacturers believe NiMH cells should now and then be discharged
deeply. When I get the feeling service time decreases, a deep-discharge
usually gives me 10-30% more juice per full charge. I have been using the
same pair of Thaddeus cells over one year now, IRC. I only noticed a
decreased performance for the first time a few months ago.

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Stefan Peichl wrote :

> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, Westin Grand Hotel doesn't allow dialing of 010...
> > Numbers, so all of these free dialup ISPs are useless for Donglok's
> > friend.
>
> some hotels allow, some don't. The hotel may be preselected to
> one of the 010.. providers, then the ISP, using this provider
> should work without predialing the 010..

I have not yet used free ISP's - neither from home nor in a hotel so I
can not comment.

> With mobile phones, you only have access to the big ISPs like
> AOL, T-Online, Compuserve. Each GSM provider has it's own and
> expensive dialin numbers for these Internet providers.

With CIS and my 8810 I connect to my standard Salzburg node - within
Austria and from abroad. I did not notice that CIS has special GSM
nodes. Of course it is expensive - it is a cellphone to landline
connection which is always more expensive :-(

My GSM provider gave me internet access together with the cell phone
service. They have a special GSM node. It is a cell phone node and the
tarif should be cheaper than connecting to a land line node. I use it
only when CIS is done so I don't know exactly.

> The whole thing is still very complicated and you need to be an
> expert to find your way through. During a vacation in France a
> few month ago I ended up with international calls to Germany
> to access my German ISP. Nothing else worked :-(

When you leave the area of your cell phone provider you will always
have surcharges due to the roaming contracts. That should not be a
surprise.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Hi Donglok & G|nther,

Then Dellnet is your friend's solution, at least for his time in Westin
Grand in Berlin. :-) Thanks, G|nther!

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:47:58 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> wrote:

> It has even an stmp server:
>
> mail.planet-interkom.de

Can you use this SMTP without first having to connect to the POP
server?
Do you use it with Post/LX?

> If you want the dial in numbers for the 70 cities, mail me.

Ja, bitte! :-)
Do they have also numbers outide of Germany?

> using the 'built-in' services for normally 19 pf to 69 pf. Daniel uses hi
> s
> university account, which also has a normal numbers, so he has a quite
> cheap access via mobile phone.

:-¨
So let's hope that if I stop to study (and don't have an university
account any more) Dellnet is still in business! Or maybe things will
have changed by then, so that there are other cheaper possibilities...

> Hehe, as a student I have loooots of time to experience all that ;-).

?!?#$(#&)¬#@@%

I'm also a student and I DON'T HAVE all this time for so much
experiments! That's unfair! ;-)

GTX
daniel


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   >Does Framework have collapsible levels?  That's why I don't
   >use WordPerfect or Word for Outlines, because they don't
   >hide the sublevels (AFAIK anyway).
   >Grandview seems to be just a glorified outliner (to be fair,
   >I am just learning to use it).

Yeah, FW does let you collapse the levels.  I think PC Outline did that as
well.

To be honest, FW is a passable outliner but it's a bit big and unwieldy if
that's all someone uses it for.

- Longden

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Hi,

There is any software ready to run on hp?
Who is using minix and for what?

Thanx!

=====
FullTurtle

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hi Werner, Jim and Kat

>I happen to have a 2nd 200LX and a 2nd charger, and was able to see
>that the female connector on the 200 itself was OK

>A new adapter fixed the problem.

in my case it is definitely not the adapter because it works fine on my
backup 100lx

so, that leaves only the 200lx's plug, which has a loose connection, called
"Wackelkontakt" ;) (hi Daniel) - how i know? i look at "setup" and it
jumps from "adapter" to "battery" and back each time i wriggled the
connector while plugged in

>there are (at least) 2 types of plugs, one is 2.1 mm (the middle pin)
>the other 2.5mm. If you use the larger jack for the small plug this may

are you talking about the adapter's middle hole diameter? they seem to come
in
all kinds of sizes; some of the tips are rounded, some are square too
    Does anyone know the correct original HP adapter dimensions?

>careful!) and look inside, maybe you can find the cause. The plug is
>connected to the mainboard with thin wires, maybe you have to solder a
>connection or the plug is broken - then you have to find a new one

i give the opening a miss, and rather have a professional do it for me -
there goes my question again: how much to fix it, and who is willing to do
it?


     __o      regards from Nathalie in France
  _(\<._      cruising the beautiful countryside
 (_)/ (_)     with my bike and lx at home ready for repair

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>>So, while memory might not exist, it's still a serious problem. :)

did you say an engineer or a politician said that? <g>

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dd diaz wrote:
> Does Framework have collapsible levels?  That's why I don't
> use WordPerfect or Word for Outlines, because they don't
> hide the sublevels (AFAIK anyway).

You can do one level of "collapsing" in WordPerfect 5.1.

From the WordPerct Help...

Subdocument/Master Document

     A master document is a small, easy-to-edit file consisting of one or more
     subdocuments and interposed text.

     Subdocuments are inserted into a master document with a WordPerfect code
     and may be separated from the master document for editing purposes.
     Numbering and formatting codes may be inserted into either the master
     document or a subdocument and remain consistent throughout the master
     document.

     To create a master document, type text and include subdocuments in the
     file.  Position the cursor where you would like a subdocument to be
     located, select Subdocument, and enter the subdocument's filename.

     You can expand and condense the master document using the Generate option
     on the Mark Text key.  When you expand the master document, the
     subdocument is inserted at the code.  When you condense the master
     document, you are given the opportunity to save any editing changes you
     made to the subdocument(s).

     In order to print the entire master document, you must expand it first.

Steve

P.S.

I normally use the WordPerfect text editor ED.EXE, but have
used vi when forced to.  I find ED faster because I've learned
how to use it and for simple things its more intuitive.  Barry
says vi uses less keystrokes, but thats not my experiance.
Basicly you need to learn a good editor and use it enough to
find out the short-cuts in it.

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<<Framework appears to have been taken over by an aficionado and is still
very much alive and well.  See the Framework website at www.framework.com.
They even have a 200LX version of which I would be most interested in
obtaining an independent evaluation.  If anyone on the list is using the
Framework V palmtop version, please let us know how it works.
>>

When I spoke to the developer a year or two ago, the 200LX version was mostly
just a re-programming of 2 blue keys to simulate In/Out.  The guy didn't know
that Fn-2 and Fn-1 did the same thing (and seemed dumbfounded when I told him I
was already running FW-3 on the LX).  According to him, FW-5 (for the LX) was
just mostly FW-4 with the added keys.  All the big enhancements in FW-5 were
reserved for the desktop 386+ machines.

Other than that, there were some plans to integrate NetTamer more tightly into
the environment (ie, have it run inside a frame), but I don't think that ever
progressed ... and the last I saw was that NT was just being included in the
packaging as a shareware "recommendable" (he was doubly dumbfounded to hear that
I ran NT from within FW-3 as well).

I learned FW when I was helping to organize some chaotic procedures at my former
job.  The outliner capability of viewing your items in hierarchical steps (and
being able to make changes as your perception of the task changed) was a boon,
plus FW's ability to include both spreadsheet and word-processor documents
throughout the outline meant I didn't have to keep track of umpteen different
files (as if the project at hand weren't enough).

I probably use FW's spreadsheet more than it's outliner, and for that reason
alone, I probably wouldn't switch to a plain outliner (no matter how good).

Due to its size (requires MaxDOS), I probably use it less than I would,
especially since the 200LX's suite of apps do many of the same functions (except
outlining, which is only a once in a while thing for me anyway).  But I still
kick it up when I have a project to track or a research paper to write.  If I
had a 1000CX, then FW-4 would definitely be my main app.

- Longden

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Hoi Daniel,

> > It has even an stmp server:
> >
> > mail.planet-interkom.de
>
> Can you use this SMTP without first having to connect to the POP
> server?

Yes. You can use it whatever from:-header you have.

> Do you use it with Post/LX?

I will send this mail with Dellnet, normally I use other providers.

> Do they have also numbers outide of Germany?

Ni, I don't think so. Keith Grider has made a little gdb with all the
numbers. My source of information was:

http://www.holpert.de/christian/internet-by-call/Dellnet_f.htm (general
information on dellnet)

http://www.holpert.de/christian/internet-by-call/Viagpops_f.html (list)

The site is in German and uses frames, and you can find the dial-in numbers
for all the other 'freesurf' providers. I recommended dellnet because I had
some (positive) experience with them.

When I'm abroad (didn't test this) I think I will use a calling card to
dial into one of the dellnet numbers. Of course it's expensive, but it
works with mobile phones. Swisscard (prepaid phone card) has a quite good
speech quality, so I hope it will work with data connections, too.

> I'm also a student and I DON'T HAVE all this time for so much
> experiments! That's unfair! ;-)

Well, you have 2.5 (or 2.75?) 200lx, I just have one ;-)

Bye
G|nther

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Is FW4 still available as freeware/shareware somewhere? I would like to
check it out, but would prefer not to have to pay for it at the
framework.com site.

Thanks,
Michael

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
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Subject: Re: GrandView, Framework and a Loaf of Bread


> <<Framework appears to have been taken over by an aficionado and is still
> very much alive and well.  See the Framework website at www.framework.com.
> They even have a 200LX version of which I would be most interested in
> obtaining an independent evaluation.  If anyone on the list is using the
> Framework V palmtop version, please let us know how it works.
> >>
>
> When I spoke to the developer a year or two ago, the 200LX version was
mostly
> just a re-programming of 2 blue keys to simulate In/Out.  The guy didn't
know
> that Fn-2 and Fn-1 did the same thing (and seemed dumbfounded when I told
him I
> was already running FW-3 on the LX).  According to him, FW-5 (for the LX)
was
> just mostly FW-4 with the added keys.  All the big enhancements in FW-5
were
> reserved for the desktop 386+ machines.
>
> Other than that, there were some plans to integrate NetTamer more tightly
into
> the environment (ie, have it run inside a frame), but I don't think that
ever
> progressed ... and the last I saw was that NT was just being included in
the
> packaging as a shareware "recommendable" (he was doubly dumbfounded to
hear that
> I ran NT from within FW-3 as well).
>
> I learned FW when I was helping to organize some chaotic procedures at my
former
> job.  The outliner capability of viewing your items in hierarchical steps
(and
> being able to make changes as your perception of the task changed) was a
boon,
> plus FW's ability to include both spreadsheet and word-processor documents
> throughout the outline meant I didn't have to keep track of umpteen
different
> files (as if the project at hand weren't enough).
>
> I probably use FW's spreadsheet more than it's outliner, and for that
reason
> alone, I probably wouldn't switch to a plain outliner (no matter how
good).
>
> Due to its size (requires MaxDOS), I probably use it less than I would,
> especially since the 200LX's suite of apps do many of the same functions
(except
> outlining, which is only a once in a while thing for me anyway).  But I
still
> kick it up when I have a project to track or a research paper to write.
If I
> had a 1000CX, then FW-4 would definitely be my main app.
>
> - Longden
>
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>

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> The desktop 123 used to include a print-graph utility, so maybe it had a
> conversion also.  I have v2.3, but only in 5.25" disks and can't check it out
> till I get my hands on a 5.25" drive.
>
Ýsnip¨
>
> I did a websearch on AltaVista (using "graphics conversion lotus 123 pic") and
> came up with this link:
>
> http://www.lemkesoft.de/index.html
>
Unfortunately for most of you folks, the lemkesoft application is Mac-only. It's
the famous Graphic Converter, probably the best image converter/manipulator for
Macs. I highly recommend it (for Mac-heads).

The last version of Graphics Workshop known to work on the palmtop, which is
available on SUPER, does not handle vector graphics like Lotus' PIC files. Maybe
a later desktop-only version does.

This is just a shot in the dark, but can you print-to-file your .PIC from 1-2-3,
then open that file from LXPic or Graphics Converter?

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From: "Larry Tachna" <ltachna@royalzenith.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: Laptop batteries


>
> >>So, while memory might not exist, it's still a serious problem.
:)
>
> did you say an engineer or a politician said that? <g>

That's my statement.  :)

They say the memory problem has been cured on modern batteries and
then go on to describe other things that sound like the same effect
to me but have a different cause.  To my mind,  memory is the
effect, not the cause.

So maybe engineers are really politicians.  :)

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:39:16 -0500
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I think this is basically a Psion Revo.  I still think the Psion 5MX would
be a more attractive machine, mainly because of the full-width screen (640
pixels).

Cheers.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:46:37 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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My apologies to members (and Daniel) for that earlier link.... I forget
sometimes that we occupy the same planetary space as Mac users <g>.

As to the print-to-file suggestion, my guess is that the output would be printer
specific commands, not an image file.

But, not to lose hope... I searched again on AltaVista and found a Psion page
(yeah we share with them too...):

This link:
http://www.celigne.co.uk/psion/lpic2ps.html

purports to have (freeware?) C code to convert Lotus PIC files to PostScript,
and which the author says "should compile anywhere"

And this link:
http://www.corel.com/partners_developers/ds/CO16SDK/DOCS/_D2CONVT.HTM

says WordPerfect has a Lotus .pic conversion

And this link:
http://www.mwcdrom.com/catalog/dtp/2191.htm

has one that works in Win 3.x / 9x.  Commercial (India), so I'm not sure how
much it costs.

And this one:
http://helpmaster.com/sight/graphictools.htm

seems to indicate that PaintShop Pro  3.11 (16bit, shareware) is able to handle
Lotus PIC conversions.

- Longden






Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> on 04/20/2000 08:16:01 AM

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Subject:  Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123




> The desktop 123 used to include a print-graph utility, so maybe it had a
> conversion also.  I have v2.3, but only in 5.25" disks and can't check it out
> till I get my hands on a 5.25" drive.
>
Ýsnip¨
>
> I did a websearch on AltaVista (using "graphics conversion lotus 123 pic") and
> came up with this link:
>
> http://www.lemkesoft.de/index.html
>
Unfortunately for most of you folks, the lemkesoft application is Mac-only. It's
the famous Graphic Converter, probably the best image converter/manipulator for
Macs. I highly recommend it (for Mac-heads).

The last version of Graphics Workshop known to work on the palmtop, which is
available on SUPER, does not handle vector graphics like Lotus' PIC files. Maybe
a later desktop-only version does.

This is just a shot in the dark, but can you print-to-file your .PIC from 1-2-3,
then open that file from LXPic or Graphics Converter?

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<<

They say the memory problem has been cured on modern batteries and
then go on to describe other things that sound like the same effect
to me but have a different cause.  To my mind,  memory is the
effect, not the cause.

So maybe engineers are really politicians.  :)

>>

Both are forgetful <g>.

- Longden

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It may turn up in garage sales, but I don't know anyone offering it as freeware
or shareware ... I had to buy my copy of FW4.

FW3 may be more readily available, tho I'll confess that I've never seen it (or
any version of FW) in the liquidation sales or surplus stores (and believe me,
I've looked!!).  FW3 was a major release that was available for over a year
before FW4, and then FW was killed by Borland when it acquired Ashton-Tate.  As
a consequence, FW4 was on the market for only a scant time, and probably ranks
with prosperous LX programmers in terms of scarcity <g>.

- Longden





"Michael McCann" <michael@sportsfunds.com> on 04/20/2000 08:40:30 AM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
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Subject:  Re:      Re: GrandView, Framework and a Loaf of Bread




Is FW4 still available as freeware/shareware somewhere? I would like to
check it out, but would prefer not to have to pay for it at the
framework.com site.

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Hi All,

I cant remember who asked for SetIt to display a little better information
ie instead of echoing the command line argument back i now echo the actual
settings back anybody who wants a copy just shout

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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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I have the program (graphic converter V3.8) and it seems to have an
incredible list of features for the price.
The bad news is that it runs on my MAC powerbook.
I would love a WIN/DOS version but haven't found one yet.

Andrew King
IIT Physics, Chicago
312-567-3021
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:30:28 -0700
From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject: Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123

I did a websearch on AltaVista (using "graphics conversion lotus 123 pic")
and came up with this link:

http://www.lemkesoft.de/index.html

I guess it's a German shareware program (so you can support your local
economy) for 46,40DM.

Imports 130 graphic formats (including Lotus-PIC) and exports 40 formats
(including TIFF).

Don't you just love having options <g>?

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Dave
I have quicken 8 but no manuals.
Can I make some arrangement to copy/scan your manual?
I would volunteer to do the work or pay for someone else to do it.

Thanks

Andrew King
IIT Physics, Chicago
312-567-3021
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:14:53 -0400
From: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Dos Quicken

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>What is the version number of the DOS Quicken that runs on the LX and is
Y2K?<

I Believe versions 6 and up.  Last release is 8.  I use 6 and am awaiting
my 8 to arrive.  Got them both for 5 bucks each.....all with manuals!!
what a bargain.

dave

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Hi All,

I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.

Looking forward to any reply/suggestions.



Regards,

Qman...
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 I'm using TREMM as well and can't find ANY tremm.swp file on my c: drive!
Is this a new addition? Is it hidden somehow? I view c: *.* in filer and it
doesn't show up.

   - Eric


> Volume in drive C is Times2_Tech
> Directory of C:\
>
> TREMM    SWP   3523584 04-17-00   8:30a
>
>This is for 6 SC sessions each of 570K plus some left over for other programs
>to use.
>
>Steve Carder

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Does anyone know if DOS version 8.0 can handle currency conversions?
I am using Quicken 7.0 for DOS and it can't do conversions automatically
from $US to $CAN or vice versa for investment files.
Failing that, can any Win 3.1 version do this?

  - Eric

>>What is the version number of the DOS Quicken that runs on the LX and is
>Y2K?<
>
>I Believe versions 6 and up.  Last release is 8.  I use 6 and am awaiting
>my 8 to arrive.  Got them both for 5 bucks each.....all with manuals!!
>what a bargain.

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I have:

4 - HP F1021B Connectivity Pack (for the HP100LX and the HP200LX) - 50$ (less
than half of Thaddeus' price)
1 - HP F1021A Connectivity Pack (for the HP100LX) - 30$ (no available at
Thaddeus)
3 - HP F1023A Connector/Adapter Kit (for the HP Palmtop PCs and HP48) - 15$ (no
available at Thaddeus)

All items are in mint or never used condition. Let me know if interested!

Philippe

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>  I'm using TREMM as well and can't find ANY tremm.swp file on my c: drive!
> Is this a new addition? Is it hidden somehow? I view c: *.* in filer and it
> doesn't show up.

Yes, it is a hidden file in the root directory.


Cheers,
 Mack

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Subject:      Re: Software for minix on hp?

Hi,

minix is an OS with a lot of potential that it will probably never realize.
It's a nice little OS for the LX but has no support for networking. I'm not
even sure that setting up for dialup is possible. I'm a big fan on unix and
love to be able to run a (somewhat) real unix on the palmtop. minux gives us
true(ish) multitasking (and even multi-user although that's kinda silly) on
the LX. The problems I see with minix are as follows:

No access to DOS filesystems
No access to builtin apps
No/Limited access to networking
No PAL development environment


I'd say that the DOS stuff is insurmountable unless we could make minux be a
SC swappable task.

Note: I would also like to give Mack a lot of credit. He went through a
great deal of trouble to get a working minix on the LX. He hoped that some
others would pick up the baton and run with it but that has not happened.
It's no small task to learn minix and develop all of the above successfully.





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>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 8:00 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Software for minix on hp?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>There is any software ready to run on hp?
>Who is using minix and for what?
>
>Thanx!
>
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Database files to CSV!
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Qman,

Your requirements are a bit sparse, but I'm assuming you meant the LX databases
(.gdb, .ndb, etc) ... and the GDBDUMP program on SUPER will handle that
conversion to csv.

- Longden





Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> on 04/20/2000 11:15:01 AM

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Subject:  Database files to CSV!




Hi All,

I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.

Looking forward to any reply/suggestions.

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It is a hidden file, and filer won't show it.

Go to DOS and cd to the main directory, and display the hidden files using these
commands:

c:
cd \
dir /ah

- Longden





Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA> on 04/20/2000 12:35:21 PM

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Subject:  Re: SC: swap to disk file vs EMS




 I'm using TREMM as well and can't find ANY tremm.swp file on my c: drive!
Is this a new addition? Is it hidden somehow? I view c: *.* in filer and it
doesn't show up.

   - Eric


> Volume in drive C is Times2_Tech
> Directory of C:\
>
> TREMM    SWP   3523584 04-17-00   8:30a
>

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I'm trying to get the cclxpop suite to work on my 200LX 8M and would
appreciate a few tips if possible. At the moment I can make a connection in
DOS but always encounter the following message:

 LXMTA 2.0 - HP200LX TCP/IP Suite <http://txtcp.hplx.net/>
 No definition  for lxmta. spooldir

 termin: terminate completed
 Connection closed...



I have a line in my Lxtcp.cfg that reads:
lxpop.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail\

My cclxpop.cfg has the following lines:
spooldir="c:\_dat\mail\"
ccpath="c:\_dat\mail\"


   Thanks in advance!




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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:35:55 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:32:08 -0400 (EDT)

02h17m07s ago ...
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.

Hey, Qman!

Look for GDB2CSV (I think that's the name) on SUPER.  Japanese EXM
program without translated docs, but it's pretty intuitive.

Regards,

Peniel
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> No access to DOS filesystems
> No access to builtin apps
> No/Limited access to networking
> No PAL development environment
>
> I'd say that the DOS stuff is insurmountable unless we could make minux be a
> SC swappable task.
>
> Note: I would also like to give Mack a lot of credit. He went through a
> great deal of trouble to get a working minix on the LX. He hoped that some
> others would pick up the baton and run with it but that has not happened.
> It's no small task to learn minix and develop all of the above successfully.

Minix itself does support networking, and it works even on a 640K XT. The
problems are, only a few network cards are supported, and PCMCIA support
is little or none. Maybe PPP over a serial line could work.

I think the DOS filesystem support is also doable. I think it would work
now if the LX had a normal INT 13H for disk access. I've tried to combine
Dub's limited INT 13h driver with Mack's minix distribution but have not
had any success so far. Perhaps it needs a more complete 13h emulation. Or
someone could write a driver for minix that uses the LX's specific
built-in drivers.

By the way, minix is now available under the BSD license.

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:51:52 -0700
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Looking to get a good deal on a sandisk compact flash card with type II =
adapter.

Any recommendations on where to purchase?

Thanks
-Tim=20
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Looking to get a good deal on a sandisk compact =
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with type II adapter.</FONT></DIV>
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purchase?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Tim <BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:tim.shephard@bigfoot.com">tim.shephard@bigfoot.com</A><BR>=
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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:03:40 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Database files to CSV!
Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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>>I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.
>>
>>Looking forward to any reply/suggestions.

use a smartclip and print it to a file

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:04:51 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> Speaking of Freecell, are there any games that solve themselves (or
> almost) or does the algorithm used take this into account?

Laust
I think you're asking for a "flourish".  These are discussed in section
3 about half way down the page at:

   http://members.aol.com/wgreview/fcfaq.html

Also check out...

   http://members.aol.com/wgreview/freecell.html

This site is mostly discussing the Windoze FC I think.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:10:40 -0400
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Best I found a while back was http://www.buy.com


/jack

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From: Tim Shephard <timshephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 5:52 PM
Subject: Where to buy flash card


    Looking to get a good deal on a sandisk compact flash card with type =
II adapter.
   =20
    Any recommendations on where to purchase?
   =20
    Thanks
    -Tim=20
    tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
    tims.phone@bigfoot.com
    http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
    eFax (508) 590-0302

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Best I found a while back was <A=20
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t;<BR><B>To:=20
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any recommendations on where to =
purchase?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Tim <BR><A=20
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Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:17:44 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   There was a thread sometime back about the failure of PCTime to cope
   with y2k issues. I have found a suitable replacement that runs on
   the LX: TimeSet v7.21 (see www.rightime.com). I have not done
   extensive testing, but the few times I tried it went OK. I'd be
   interested in other's review. BTW the # for USNO needs to be changed
   to 202-762-1594.

Cheers...AJKind
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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:50:54 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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In regards to the previously mentioned Psion link, I downloaded the zip file and
compiled the lpic2ps.c program on the LX using Power C (without error or
modification).  The resulting 16k exe converted my 4k PIC graph of my biorhythm
(from Lotus 123) into an 11k postscript file.

I couldn't verify the .ps file (my office has no postscript printer), but a
co-worker ran Acrobat Distiller to convert the .ps file into a .pdf (displayable
on Acrobat reader) and I was able to visually confirm (on my NT desktop) that
the graph looks like the original (at least at a glance ... don't want the boss
to catch me inspecting biorhythm charts do I?).

If anyone wants this (the exe of course, not my biorhythm) who can't do the C
compile themselves, just email me privately.

- Longden

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From: Longden Loo on 04/20/2000 08:46 AM



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cc:
Subject:  Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123  (Document link not converted)

My apologies to members (and Daniel) for that earlier link.... I forget
sometimes that we occupy the same planetary space as Mac users <g>.

As to the print-to-file suggestion, my guess is that the output would be printer
specific commands, not an image file.

But, not to lose hope... I searched again on AltaVista and found a Psion page
(yeah we share with them too...):

This link:
http://www.celigne.co.uk/psion/lpic2ps.html

purports to have (freeware?) C code to convert Lotus PIC files to PostScript,
and which the author says "should compile anywhere"

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:19:39 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I agree with you about BUY.COM, I have bought from them several times, and
so long as they indicated that they had an item in stock, I have had no trouble.

Please don't write in HTML, however. I don't know if this should be directed
at you or the original correspondent, but many of the correspondents here read
their mail on relatively slow modems, and convention (and rules) dictate that
we communicate in ASCII.

Jack Schudel wrote:

Best I found a while back was http://www.buy.com

/jack

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:24:25 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP

Eric Greenspoon writes:
>
> I have a line in my Lxtcp.cfg that reads:
> lxpop.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail\

Try changing this to:  lxmta.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail

Ted

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              Don Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
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I have the following items for sale.  If interested, please contact me off
the list at weather@exis.net.

- 48 MB Viking PCMCIA flash card, $80 including shipping in U.S.

- 5MB PCMCIA flash card, HP F1012A (Sundisk/Sandisk) #SDP-5, for use with
HPLX palmtops, $10, plus $5 shipping.

- WordPerfect 6.0 Upgrade for DOS, 5.25 inch disks, $20 plus $10 shipping.

- Sharp PC-7100 portable 8086 computer, "lunchbox" type, backlit CGA LCD
screen, 720k RAM (according to Norton), 21 MB HDD, 360k FDD,  1 serial
port, 1 parallel port.  $75 plus $10 shipping in U.S.  Great for testing
DOS software prior to installing on HPLX.

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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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You know, that's a better way - to improve on that, use a polyswitch -
That would work here (they are made of a plastic which melts and when
melted acts as a very high resistance joint, when not melted acts as a
pretty low resistance, pretty cheap at DigiKey.)  Really need another
HP200LX to "play" with, though, as if I take THIS one apart my life'll
fall apart even worse than it already IS! <G>

The nice thing is that the polyswitch will cool off and reset itself
after a few seconds, so when you plug the correct power supply in, it
works.  Have to make sure it'll all fit in there, though <G>

  Mark

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:13:16 -0700, Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:
>
> > Another alternative is to put a diode backwards, across the power leads,
> > but then you might melt the enamelled wires from the plug to the
> > motherboard if you plugged in a suplpy backwards - Doubt you want THAT!
>
> Another possibility would be to put a fuse in series to the diode you
> described above. Then the fuse would melt in the case you plug an AC
> adapter backwards. Not the wires.
>
> But the protection was gone after one failure! ;-)
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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> homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
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>

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Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:45:46 -0500
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<<<<<I normally use the WordPerfect text editor ED.EXE, but have
used vi when forced to.  I find ED faster because I've learned
how to use it and for simple things its more intuitive.  Barry
says vi uses less keystrokes, but thats not my experiance.
Basicly you need to learn a good editor and use it enough to
find out the short-cuts in it.>>>>>

I've used WordPerfect's ED much more than I've used vi.  For years
it was the only full screen editor available on the DataGeneral
minis.  WordPerfect was first developed for DataGeneral and on
DataGeneral.  I have no idea how much code I've written in ED.  A
lot.

I've also used the PC version and they're nearly identical in their
keystroks.

ED isn't a bad editor at all.  And I agree that it's very intuitive,
has good help and is fairly powerful.  It doesn't have a lot of
features but it has a good selection of features.  It usually has
what you need.

But vi is far more powerful and far more efficient once you learn
it.

By the way, among editors, I think ED probably requires more
keystrokes for simple tasks then most.  Even just exiting the editor
makes you do a dance on the keyboard to convince it you really mean
it.  Macros are seldom worth using because they require more
keystrokes to use than what they replace unless it's an unusually
long sequence.

Barry

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<<<<says WordPerfect has a Lotus .pic conversion>>>>

It's interesting that Lotus doesn't support Lotus pic files.  :)

I recently installed the current version of Lotus so today I saved a
pic file in Lotus 2.2 and 2.4 and tried to find a way to get then
into the new Lotus and there just wasn't any way to do it.  There's
nothing about it in the help either.  Their word processor, WordPro
(formerly AMIPro) also doesn't recongize them.  There's also no
mention of them on their website.

Barry

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:50:42 +0100
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Subject:      Re: "Wackelkontakt" in Power supply
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hi Nathalie,

On 21 Apr 2000, at 3:46, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> are you talking about the adapter's middle hole diameter? they seem to
> come in all kinds of sizes; some of the tips are rounded, some are
> square too
>     Does anyone know the correct original HP adapter dimensions?

It should work with a 2.1 mm adapter, maybe the original adapter is
even smaller. It is very difficult to measure the middle pin exactly.
If your adapter has 2.5 mm it is certainly to big and may cause your
problems. This is what I found:
http://194.239.190.84/toc/showpic.cmdl?pic=LargeProdPics/C286869-01.JPG

>
> >careful!) and look inside, maybe you can find the cause. The plug is
> >connected to the mainboard with thin wires, maybe you have to solder a
> >connection or the plug is broken - then you have to find a new one
>
> i give the opening a miss, and rather have a professional do it for me -
> there goes my question again: how much to fix it, and who is willing to
> do it?

you can send it to Rundel (*) in Goeppingen, they will probably do it
for you, ask for the price there. Maybe you have a friend skilled in
electronics who is interested in the job:-) If you want to send it to
me, I can try it, but without warranty :-(
Daniel, what about you?

(*) http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/
>
>

regards,
Werner


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Hi,

Can someone recommend a program for timetabling a week (for classes or
whatever)?

I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot of hassle doing
it that way.

Cheers.


David McIntosh
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Stolen 200lx

My 200lx was stolen from our vehicle last night.  As I mourn its loss,
I'm wondering what experiences others in similar situations have had with
their insurance companies.  Because the 200lx is unavailable any longer,
I'm concerned about the value they'll attach to it.

Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.  The only realy guage
I've gotten so far is an average taken from the eBay sales for the past
few months (approximately $350.00).  Anything better than that available?

It was a stock 2M 200lx purchased new December 1998.

Appreciating comments and suggestions.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - I'm sure this is the universe's way to get even with me for
purchasing and liking a Palm IIIx.

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For simple instructions, using nothing more than what is already on your
palmtop, see the following web page:

http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/HPdbexport.txt

Alan

>From: Quinton Jones Jr Ýmailto:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:15 PM
>...
>I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.
>
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Larry
I understand your concern. When mine was stolen about a year ago, I didn't
have any insurance on it. It cost me $436 to replace it from Service
Merchandise. That's the only place, other than internet that I have seen
one.

Sam
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 21, 2000 7:35 AM
Subject: Stolen 200lx


>My 200lx was stolen from our vehicle last night.  As I mourn its loss,
>I'm wondering what experiences others in similar situations have had with
>their insurance companies.  Because the 200lx is unavailable any longer,
>I'm concerned about the value they'll attach to it.
>
>Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.  The only realy guage
>I've gotten so far is an average taken from the eBay sales for the past
>few months (approximately $350.00).  Anything better than that available?
>
>It was a stock 2M 200lx purchased new December 1998.
>
>Appreciating comments and suggestions.
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>
>PS - I'm sure this is the universe's way to get even with me for
>purchasing and liking a Palm IIIx.
>
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Sorry to hear about the loss, Larry.

Mine was stolen also about 3 years ago.  My insurance company covered it with no
problems as a theft under my homeowner's policy, which I'm told is standard for
such losses, even tho it's away from home.

- Itemize your loss, and include receipts (if you have them), purchase details
(date, location, amount), identifying information (serial numbers, model
numbers).

- File a police report (you'll need the report number)

- File a claim with your insurance company and provide the itemized list  and
police report number

My insurance company preferred to have their people try and procure a
replacement for the lost items, so I had to be VERY SPECIFIC when I described
how the lost 14.4k PCMCIA modem had to be a specific type in order to work.  In
some cases, the insurance company let me buy the replacement items myself and
covered the cost. They weren't able to come up with a 2x/5mb 200LX and an Xjack
14.4k modem, but did provide a nice 20mb flash card.  They basically couldn't
deal with buying discontinued items in general.  In the case of the modem, they
originally offered to get me one that was better and more expensive, but
wouldn't work in the LX.

In the case of the 200LX, you may need to describe the specific reasons why you
need that "PDA" as opposed to them buying you a nice WinCE, Palm or Sharp.
Having a good business justification is always good.  I actually bought my
replacement 200LX immediately, before I even filed the claim, and told them
later that I had an immediate business need for a replacement and couldn't
afford to wait (and took some risk there).

All in all, I was pleasantly surprised at how amenable they were to the quirks,
and that they were genuinely interested in getting me back in business.  YMMV
with each insurance company.  Good luck with yours.

- Longden

PS - Maybe if you drive a stake thru the Palm's heart and offer its silicon up
as a sacrifice, the 200LX will come back <not> .... shit happens.





Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> on 04/21/2000 05:30:37 AM

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Subject:  Stolen 200lx




My 200lx was stolen from our vehicle last night.  As I mourn its loss,
I'm wondering what experiences others in similar situations have had with
their insurance companies.  Because the 200lx is unavailable any longer,
I'm concerned about the value they'll attach to it.

Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.  The only realy guage
I've gotten so far is an average taken from the eBay sales for the past
few months (approximately $350.00).  Anything better than that available?

It was a stock 2M 200lx purchased new December 1998.

Appreciating comments and suggestions.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - I'm sure this is the universe's way to get even with me for
purchasing and liking a Palm IIIx.

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If I'm building a time-table to get a "what-if" picture of my week, in order to
see how classes fit into my work and home schedules, I usually just enter them
into a spreadsheet.  Rows for hours of the day and columns for the days of the
week.

Committed hours are easy to just delete/copy/move around until I see how
hopeless it all really is <g>.

I don't have anything for more sophisticated time tables.

- Longden




David McIntosh <david@UNSPACY.DEMON.CO.UK> on 04/20/2000 09:41:51 AM

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Hi,

Can someone recommend a program for timetabling a week (for classes or
whatever)?

I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot of hassle doing
it that way.

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Larry,

> My 200lx was stolen from our vehicle last night.  As I mourn ...

I am very sorry to hear that bad message.

Mine was stolen in Rome in 1998 from our locked car.

> Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.  The only realy =
guage
> I've gotten so far is an average taken from the eBay sales for the past
> few months (approximately $350.00).  Anything better than that available=
?
>
> It was a stock 2M 200lx purchased new December 1998.
>
> Appreciating comments and suggestions.

I think ebay is fine, also I would go to thaddeus and see what a 2M
hp200lx second hand would be.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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> Date:    Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:15:01 -0700
> From:    Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
> Subject: Database files to CSV!
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.
>
> Looking forward to any reply/suggestions.
>
>
If from the LX database app, you can define a CSV SmartClip, then select
File|Print then All Items, Custom (CSV from the pick list) and print to
file. You may need to go into Setup to set "page" dimensions.

Jon

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I would be interested in such a program as well, but for
lack of a dedicated program, an outliner would do the trick
(though it lacks the nice horizontal view of a real time
table.  An option would be a program that can draw lines,
used to create a time table (not as convenient, but I have
done that with InfoSelect and WordPerfect).

Domingo

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Subject: Time table program


Hi,

Can someone recommend a program for timetabling a week (for
classes or
whatever)?

I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot
of hassle doing
it that way.

Cheers.


David McIntosh
david@unspacy.demon.co.uk

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> I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot
> of hassle doing it that way.


I guess I would take issue with that statement.  I can't imagine how
it would be any easier than the APPT book.

-Chris

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> Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.  The only realy guage
> I've gotten so far is an average taken from the eBay sales for the past
> few months (approximately $350.00).  Anything better than that available?


My replacement value insurance for a Reynolds 531 tubing bike
(originally about $600) which was no longer available in stock bikes
about 8 years later was "replaced" by approx $1,700 in cash toward
purchase of a custom made from the same "unique" materials.

So, what's a new HP680 cost?  That's the current market! (g)

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What he means is, mixing a time table with other
appointments is very inconvenient.  Personally I don't
bother with the palmtop for time tables, since I only have
to change it about every 3 or 4 weeks, and Excell does what
I need well.  I just wish I could take it with me for some
brain storming.  The appointment book is just not the right
tool for that job.
There is a little tool on SUPER for displaying and recording
expenses.  For its intended purpose I found it useless (no
math, just record), but such a tool would be perfect for a
time table, if it was recoded for the purpose.  It is Sysmgr
compliant.

Domingo

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 21, 2000 4:52:58 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Time table program


> I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a
lot
> of hassle doing it that way.


I guess I would take issue with that statement.  I can't
imagine how
it would be any easier than the APPT book.

-Chris

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Yes, I agree.  I'm curious WHAT you think makes using appointment book a
hassle?   Do you use the "recurring appointment" capabilities to add
blocks to your schedule that occur repeatedly (say weekly).

Rob

On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Chris Lott wrote:

> > I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot
> > of hassle doing it that way.
>
>
> I guess I would take issue with that statement.  I can't imagine how
> it would be any easier than the APPT book.
>
> -Chris
>
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I printed out several pages of information from thaddeus.com to "prove" to the agent that the 200lx is a serious machine and still very much in demand.  I have, however, also looked to the HP680 as the nearest equivalent in features as the guide to value.

Of course, it's still all academic as the agent hasn't even returned our calls yet to work on the claim!  Arg.

Larry Zimmerman

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So, what's a new HP680 cost?  That's the current market! (g)

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I got a Palm IIIx free and want to export my phone/appointment databases to
it. I remember there used to be something for that purpose on SUPER but I
cannot find it now. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks.

Ron

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Recurring appointments increase the size of the appointment
file tremendously, and are difficult to put exceptions to (I
don't want to see recurring appointments on a holiday, for
example, and that can only be fixed manually).  The
appointment program is the electronic equivalent of a
daytimer or similar paper scheduler.  What is needed (and I
assume the original poster as well) is the electronic
equivalent of a weekly wall schedule of activities (such as
classes), which changes infrequently, but must be refered to
often (sorry to the original poster if I missed his intent).
This was an issue with me when I first bought my palmtop
some years ago.

Domingo

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 21, 2000 5:27:41 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Time table program


Yes, I agree.  I'm curious WHAT you think makes using
appointment book ah hassle?   Do you use the "recurring
appointment" capabilities to add blocks to your schedule
that occur repeatedly (say weekly).

Rob

On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Chris Lott wrote:

> > I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a
lot
> > of hassle doing it that way.
>
>
> I guess I would take issue with that statement.  I can't
imagine how
> it would be any easier than the APPT book.
>
> -Chris
>
> --
>
>
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I would like to download e-mails using IMAP that are Flagged AND Unseen.
Does somebody know if it's possible ? I can either set imap.select to UNSEEN
or to FLAGGED but how can I combine them together ? Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:59:38 +0200
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>>So, while memory might not exist, it's still a serious problem. :)
>did you say an engineer or a politician said that? <g>

politicians have good memories - just look at Lewinsky's lover; he's the
perfect example - he just didn't inhale :)

ask a polli a serious question, and she starts talking about the weather

....and Hobchi could become our Illinois polli :)

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:08:24 -0700
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Hi!

I tried using MICQ today, but after dialing to my ISP, it asked me to specify my
ICQ #, but then every digit I typed resulted in juts a beep from my palmtop.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:36:15 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> My 200lx was stolen from our vehicle last night.  As I mourn its loss,

Tell us the City/State/Country where it was stolen and also the s/n so
we can keep an eye out for it.

Beware of sales from car trunks in parking lots...
  "Hey buddy, wanna buy this neat gadget?"

The only place I know selling 200LXs is Thadeus so I would use their
price when filing your insurance forms.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:37:58 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Hi gang,

There was a little discussion recently about setting the 200LX
clock to USNO time.  I think the package dicsussed was Timeset?
Timeset asks for $40 for registration--a bit pricey for my taste.
Has anyone used Clockwork on the LX?

  <http://www.ubr.com/clocks/timesw/clocwork/clocwork.html>

It says it's main purpose is to determine and compensate for clock
drift, but also includes a dialing utility and is only $20.

I've also wondered about getting time via ntp.  At one point I
tried ntime (included with the wattcp utilities), but seemed to
have some problems with it.  I recently tried it again and it
totally barfed (I think the config file name for LXTCP has changed
since the first time I tried it).   Is anyone using ntime via
a PPP (or ethernet) connection?

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:23:10 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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>>What is needed is the electronic equivalent of a weekly wall schedule of
activities which changes infrequently, but must be refered to often <<

This sounds to me like "Calendar Creator Plus" which was a commercial
product long ago. I tried this on the LX and recall that it worked but was
not very intuitive and was dog slow to build a calendar. I never did try to
find a faster replacement but there might be something like it in the Simtel
archives or elsewhere.
.ed.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:27:47 -0700
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Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> Because the 200lx is unavailable any longer....
> Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.

If they have any understanding of computers they will
understand that and let you purchase a "like" machine. So
the most "like" machine would be a "New" machine from
Thaddeus. When they turn you down and want to make a "fair
deal" settle for a used machine from thaddeus.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:05:00 -0700
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Database files to CSV!

Hi All,

The program that I Needed
was called DB2CSV as Peniel
stated below.

Btw: It an excellent and fast program it also handles Phone
Book files. (:-)

Thanks for all your suggestions.


----Original Message-----
    From:       Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>
    To:         HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>;Quinton Jones Jr <qman@earthlink.net>
    Subject:            Re: Database files to CSV!
    Date:       Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:35 PM

    Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:32:08 -0400 (EDT)

    02h17m07s ago ...
    On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

    > I'm looking for a program that will convert a database file to csv.

    Hey, Qman!

    Look for GDB2CSV (I think that's the name) on SUPER.  Japanese EXM
    program without translated docs, but it's pretty intuitive.

    Regards,

    Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:09:16 +0000
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What is micq?  Is it a form of instant messaging for the palm?
I thought i had looked at the icq website for a dos client but couldnt
find one.
Tim

> I tried using MICQ today, but after dialing to my ISP, it asked me to =
specify my
> ICQ #, but then every digit I typed resulted in juts a beep from my =
palmtop.
>
> Any ideas?
>

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:06:01 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Clock synchronization

Theodore Heise writes:
>
> I've also wondered about getting time via ntp.  At one point I
> tried ntime (included with the wattcp utilities), but seemed to
> have some problems with it.  I recently tried it again and it
> totally barfed


Ummm...  never mind.  <blush>  It barfed when I tried it over
the LAN at work (behind a firewall), but it worked just fine
from home over a dial-up.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:13:56 -0700
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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FYI -- Kodak Diconix or HP ThinkJet cartridges. They are hard to find,
but HP sells them. The URL to the cartridge is too long, so... Go to

http://www.hp.com/country/us/eng/buy.htm

Then select the following links/options:

Buy Online...

Printing Supplies

Other Inkjets

HP ThinkJet

You are there!

http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/shopping/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/home/which_home.jsp

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:49:31 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Stolen 200lx
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>>I printed out several pages of information from thaddeus.com to
>>"prove" to the agent that the 200lx is a serious machine and
>>still very much in demand.

just post your agents email and i am sure we could convince her/him that it
is a serious machine

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In a message dated 4/14/00 1:48:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM writes:

<< There
 is a good chance we have tapped into a limited source of new units (we'll
 know soon) and a huge source of refurbished units (would be available by
 August). >>
We all sincerely hope so, Hal!

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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> FYI -- Kodak Diconix or HP ThinkJet cartridges. They are hard to find,
> but HP sells them. The URL to the cartridge is too long, so... Go to

I've had no trouble finding them at Office Depot. I have to ask for them
at the counter though.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:26:14 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Chriss Lott wrote :

> > I know it can be done with appointment book, but it's a lot
> > of hassle doing it that way.
>
> I guess I would take issue with that statement.  I can't imagine how
> it would be any easier than the APPT book.

I agree with Chris. Another alternative to APP is PIM/PE from DASOFT.
It has an interface which is comparable to APP but is purely ASCII and
nicely integrates with PalEdit.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:59:54 -0700
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I used a SECOND appt. book file and the Launcher EXM from
super.
This makes it easy to switch back and forth. I also used
launcher for the 12 different phonebooks and 10 or 12
databases and notetaker files I use regularly.

However for a couple of items (my Blood pressure tracking,
some work schedules I use Lotus 1-2-3.

I have the day of the week formula and that allows for
making a nice tool
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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:04:51 -0700
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX <--> Palm Pilot
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Ron Zhang wrote:

> >> I got a Palm IIIx free and want to export my ....appointment databases

Grab a copy of Netscape 4.6 enterprise calendar. It will
import and export 200lx app book files and can export to the
Palm Pilot.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 05:02:06 EDT
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So am I. Specifically, I want to export my 200LX phone book files to CSV
format to be imported to Microsoft Works.

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 21 Apr 2000 06:31:51 -0700, gthoele@GMX.de (Gunnar Thoele) wrote:

> Hallo Lars!
>
> >> In truth, I find browsing less and less satisfactory. I
>
> By the way wouldn't it be possible to build a WAP browser for the LX?
> WAP access would open up all the sites intended for access by mobile
> phone, and the LX has a huge screen for that...

It should be possible. The "wap language" is not very sofisticated. I
know very little about it, but it supports different fonts and
underline and some graphics. I am not sure if it has any authenications
routines..

It should be easy to get info about what a Hplxwap browser have to do.
Nokia has SDK's availible.

It would be nice to download mail/news and then check some wap sites
before going offline..

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:30:11 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Nathalie,

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:00:02 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> so, that leaves only the 200lx's plug, which has a loose connection, called
> "Wackelkontakt" ;) (hi Daniel)

Hi :-)

> i give the opening a miss, and rather have a professional do it for me -
> there goes my question again: how much to fix it, and who is willing to do
> it?

I could do it, if you want. I opened my and my brother's LXs about 20
times by now, so I'm quite experienced. I can fix it without problems,
if it's not a really broken jack. If it's only a loose wire from the
jack to the motherboard, it's no problem for me to fix it.
If the jack itself is broken, I could try to either fix it with epoxy
glue or I could try to find a spare one, but that could be difficult,
since this jack is probably a special one. In the case I don't fin any
spare jack, i had to
replace the motherboard (or at least sacrifice a motherboard to take
the jack of it).

About the costs:
If I only have to solder a wire back onto the jack or board, you won't
have to pay anything (except maybe the shipping costs - we'll see ;-)).
If I buy a new connector, it will probably cost only a few Deutschmarks
(if I get one at all), so
you probably don't have to pay for this one either. In this case take it
as Easter egg. ;-)
If I had to sacrifice an entire motherboard, It'd cost something. But
let's hope it won't be necessary!  Maybe Tom Rundel has a broken
motherboard with a good jack, so maybe we could make a deal with him in
this case. But first let me have a look into your LX and after that we
can decide what to do.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:30:13 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Dial-up in Germany (A traveller from US)
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Hi Guenther,

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:35:40 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> wrote:

> > Do they have also numbers outide of Germany?
>
> Ni, I don't think so. Keith Grider has made a little gdb with all the
> numbers. My source of information was:

Yes, Keith sent this database to me. :-)

> > I'm also a student and I DON'T HAVE all this time for so much
> > experiments! That's unfair! ;-)
>
> Well, you have 2.5 (or 2.75?) 200lx, I just have one ;-)

Now I have 3.75 LXs: Two 200LXs, 1 100 LX and some spare parts :-) Ine
200LX and the 100LX are in use, the other 200LX is a spare one.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 06:54:05 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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> This sounds to me like "Calendar Creator Plus" which was a commercial
> product long ago. I tried this on the LX and recall that it worked but was
> not very intuitive and was dog slow to build a calendar. I never did try to
> find a faster replacement but there might be something like it in the Simtel
> archives or elsewhere.

Just a note of interest... CC+ is still alive and kicking.  The fellow
at my church who schedules activities for different rooms and such uses
it for keeping track of which group gets which room on which date.  He
prints a weekly calendar and posts it.  I'm sure there is something
newer and easier to use, but he knows this program, and it still works.
Never tried it on the 200LX, as you reported.

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:11:56 +0100
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              David McIntosh <david@UNSPACY.DEMON.CO.UK>
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>From:    Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
>Subject: Re: Time table program
>
>If I'm building a time-table to get a "what-if" picture of my week, in
>order to
>see how classes fit into my work and home schedules, I usually just enter them
>into a spreadsheet.  Rows for hours of the day and columns for the days of the
>week.
>
>Committed hours are easy to just delete/copy/move around until I see how
>hopeless it all really is <g>.
>
>I don't have anything for more sophisticated time tables.

Ooops.  It honestly never occured to me to use 1-2-3.  ¬_¬;

In the end, I created a 1-2-3 sheet with a Macro to print the finished
time-table to a text file, and added a line to Pocket Launcher to display
said text file in QuickView.  It seems to do the job now.  Cheers for
knocking some sense into me :)

I just assumed that it'd be such a common problem that someone would have
written a simple app to tackle it.  (Maybe a good EXM to start with if I
ever get around to learning to code for 200LX ;)


David McIntosh
david@unspacy.demon.co.uk

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:10:52 -0700
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I am beginning to play around with Win NT 4.0 on the OB800CT/166. It is
running now without the OB specific drivers. Some questions before I get
too far into this thing --

1. I have WNT Workstation two editions:
  a) Retail box version CDROM (c) 1985-1996
  b) OEM 1-2 Processor Edition (c) 1985-1998
Doing a quick dir *.* /s shows similar dates with a few more files on
the OEM edition (I think). Which is recommended or does it matter?

2. When loading W9x, I always put the CAB files in Windows/Options/Cabs
and run setup from that directory so I don't have to insert the CDROM
when requested. What is the equivalent recommendation for WNT?

3. I plan on installing Option Pack 3 although I have later ones. HP
seems to say to run an Option Pack before the CardWiz stuff. What are
recommendations on Option Packs?

Creating images allows me revert back to W95 with all software/hardware
features and functions. Text files on the HPLX guides me during install.
I am running W2K on my desktop this moment and will try WNT Server later
(no edition choices here). This is a learning project to get current and
hands on experience with the likes of TCP/IP, DHCP, DNS, packets, etc.
occurring quite often on the HPLX list.

Any must see helpful websites for a beginner would also be appreciated.
Don't worry, I'm legal on all this stuff. The antelope out here play, so
I try to go to MS events in Denver (200/320 mi/km) for technical some
stuff. Picked up a few goodies over the haul.

TIA, Bob

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:07:08 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> I am beginning to play around with Win NT 4.0 on the OB800CT/166. It is
> running now without the OB specific drivers. Some questions before I get
> too far into this thing --
>
> 1. I have WNT Workstation two editions:
>   a) Retail box version CDROM (c) 1985-1996
>   b) OEM 1-2 Processor Edition (c) 1985-1998

Just being picky, I'd use NT or NT4.0 to talk about NT. `WNT' is, at best,
very rare.

> Doing a quick dir *.* /s shows similar dates with a few more files on
> the OEM edition (I think). Which is recommended or does it matter?
>

NT is complex enough that I dare say the answer is `no' (The _real_ answer,
I suspect, is `No one, including all the authors and God, knows')

>
> 2. When loading W9x, I always put the CAB files in Windows/Options/Cabs
> and run setup from that directory so I don't have to insert the CDROM
> when requested. What is the equivalent recommendation for WNT?
>

I haven't tried to avoid my CD-Rom, but it might work to copy the I386
directory from the CD-Rom somewhere, and then install from that.

> 3. I plan on installing Option Pack 3 although I have later ones. HP
> seems to say to run an Option Pack before the CardWiz stuff. What are
> recommendations on Option Packs?
>

I'm happy enough with SP5. For me the most important (and obscure) thing
going on here is that NT will only install on a drive which is 8gb or
smaller at the time of the install. If you have smaller than an 8gb drive
you are probably fine. I have a 20gb drive and whenever I re-install NT
I _must_ remember to shrink my disk to 8gb _prior_ to the install.

The reason is worth understanding. NT in its pre-SP3 state can't deal
with partition tables that contain entries higher than 8gb, _EVEN IF the
partitions have nothing to do with the install_. So you have to get NT on,
up yourself to SP3+ and then you are free to putz with the disk sizes etc.

>
> Creating images allows me revert back to W95 with all software/hardware
> features and functions. Text files on the HPLX guides me during install.
> I am running W2K on my desktop this moment and will try WNT Server later
> (no edition choices here). This is a learning project to get current and
> hands on experience with the likes of TCP/IP, DHCP, DNS, packets, etc.
> occurring quite often on the HPLX list.
>
> Any must see helpful websites for a beginner would also be appreciated.
> Don't worry, I'm legal on all this stuff. The antelope out here play, so
> I try to go to MS events in Denver (200/320 mi/km) for technical some
> stuff. Picked up a few goodies over the haul.
>

I have lived through getting NT4, Win2K, Win98, SuSE 6.4 Linux and BeOS all
running with VNC, VMWare and full LAN support on my development machine. If you
run into trouble write me off-list, I've lived thru a few re-installs over
the past months...

>
> TIA, Bob
>

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:08:30 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Time table program
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dd diaz wrote:
>
> Recurring appointments increase the size of the appointment
> file tremendously, and are difficult to put exceptions to (I
> don't want to see recurring appointments on a holiday, for
> example, and that can only be fixed manually).  The
> appointment program is the electronic equivalent of a
> daytimer or similar paper scheduler.  What is needed (and I
> assume the original poster as well) is the electronic
> equivalent of a weekly wall schedule of activities (such as
> classes), which changes infrequently, but must be refered to
> often (sorry to the original poster if I missed his intent).
> This was an issue with me when I first bought my palmtop
> some years ago.
>
> Domingo
>

I find that the `convenient' (probably too strong a word) way to manage
this is to allow schedules to be kept in a number of different files
and then merged, using PERL and the Connectivity Pack's `Xlate/Merge'
into a file that I download into the 200 via one of my PCMCIA cards.

I have simple programs that report when any of the many forms of schedule
files get `out of sync' with any of the other forms, and these programs
always propose `updating transactions' that could be used to reconcile the
schedules to one another. That way I keep ultimate control over the various
files, but still manage to retain reasonable sanity.

Using this strategy I find I can incorporate/use _any_ calendaring system
so long at it has the capability of doing complete ascii import/export.
And I reject any calendaring system that can't do ascii import/export anyway,
as I have lost the content of too many ancient schedules when the systems that
read/managed them eventually passed (ever try to get one of your old
calendaring programs that now only resides on an 8in floppy up and running?)
over the computational horizon...

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:09:16 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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I have (2) 85 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash  disks available. They are in
excellent condition and have only been used a few times testing out a
customers prototype product at work.  I am selling them for $120.00 a
piece plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (8) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disks available. I sell (1) 20 Meg disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging and I sell (2) disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping. I still have (6) 20 Meg name brand Sandisks as well. I am
selling (1) 20 Meg disk for $40.00 plus shipping and packaging and I
sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money
Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks our on the way. I always ship out disks the
very next day unless I receive your payment on Saturday and then I send
them on Monday. I package all disks in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. If you are interested
email me back and let me know when you are actually sending payment and
I will hold your disk or (disks)  for you. The response on our group has
been just terrific and the people I have worked with have been just
great!  Thanks alot!    Scott

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:22:29 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<At what size flash disk are special drivers needed?  I was thinking
it was around 512MB, but have been told that the 440MB cards need a
driver.  Could someone explain?>>

Our tests show cards over 220MB need a driver.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:41:33 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<
Larry
I understand your concern. When mine was stolen about a year ago, I didn't
have any insurance on it. It cost me $436 to replace it from Service
Merchandise. That's the only place, other than internet that I have seen
one.>>

Homeowners insurance often will cover it. Use our site --
www.palmtoppaper.com for used or new replacement costs.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:59:31 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Database files to CSV!
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 05:02:06 EDT, "Gordon H. Wilson" <GWilson241@AOL.COM> =
wrote:

> So am I. Specifically, I want to export my 200LX phone book files to =
CSV
> format to be imported to Microsoft Works.


Hi Gordon,

Do a search on the SUPER Site for: db2csv02.zip

Once you have it installed look under options and select the phone book
format.

HTH



Regards,

Qman...
HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:19:50 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: large flash
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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I am using a 512MB with no drivers.

Hal Goldstein wrote:
> <<At what size flash disk are special drivers needed?  I was thinking
> it was around 512MB, but have been told that the 440MB cards need a
> driver.  Could someone explain?>>
>
> Our tests show cards over 220MB need a driver.
>
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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:23:33 -0400
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              victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Victor Roberts <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On 21 Apr 2000, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Vic,
>
> Victor Roberts wrote:
> > I have had many problems running PALRUN, WWW/LX, POST/LX and PE
> > on my OB800CT running Win95b. Something in this combination
> > completely screws up the BIOS setting of the OB, so I have
> > stopped using this except on my 200LX.
>
> Very strange. I run this combination regularly now on my
> OB800CT - zero problems. I doubt that WWW/LX is even
> capable of changing bios settings - don't forget that this
> program was specifically written for palmtops, not for
> desktop machines. I did not do anything special in the dos
> window that run the combo.

Avi,

I am glad you are not having problems with WWW/LX on your
800CT, but, as I'm sure you are aware, I wote my comments in
response to a message from another member of this list who was
also having problems when he ran WWW/LX (and associated
programs) under Win95. So, at least one other person seems to
be having a problem under Win95.

Vic

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:19:06 -0700
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FYI -- Kodak Diconix or HP ThinkJet cartridges. These are the only inkjet
pens made in Boise.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:36:37 -0700
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              Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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Subject:      Cellular phone with IrDA + HP200LX: anyone in US?
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Traditionaly way to be connected to the internet using cellular phone was
to use the modem on the HP200LX and cable for the cellular phone. This is
still not convenient scenario.

I have heard (or thought) of quite a lot of time to be connected
to the internet using an IrDA cellular phone with WWW/LX, but
could not find any cellular phone specification that provides
this capability on the web page (I looked at Nokia). Does anyone
use this configuration in US?  People in Europe seem to have
been using this for a while....

Donglok Kim

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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:43:50 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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> I got a Jornada 680 a few months ago, and it's definitely no replacement
> for my 200LX.  However, it makes an excellent COMPANION to the 200LX.
> With both of them together, I can do most everything I want -- serious
> business like word processing, finances, spreadsheets, time tracking,
> reference materials, reading e-texts <g>, etc. on the 200LX, and stuff
> like wireless internet access, secure communications, and other
> applications (like Pocket Streets) on the J680.  It makes an excellent
> complement to the 200LX ... even though the battery doesn't last nearly as
> long.
>

I'd make the same comment about my Windows 95 mininote, I use it to support
my 200lx. However, it won't do some big projects like make JAM files for
dictionaries so I have to use my Mac running Virtual PC to make 100 MB JAM
files for large cd-rom dictionaries. The problem being that JAM won't work
with Windows 95 OSR2.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:47:30 -0700
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@ALTAVISTA.COM>
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On Sat, 22 April 2000, Donglok Kim wrote:

Does anyone
> use this configuration in US?  People in Europe seem to have
> been using this for a while....
>
> Donglok Kim

Mr Kim,

Yes! there is.

Omnipoint now has a GSM-like network that uses a protocol called TDMA or some such thing (I am not a pro-it could be actual GSM 900-1800).

An Ericsson CF788 (like a $50 phone) and their DI-27 IrDA modem ($199 retail) work on the Omnipoint network.

The DI-27 is very tiny and works seamlessly. Just plug it in the bottom and put it next to the HP. Fire up wwwlx and the phone connects. I had 60% success connecting out of 15 or so tries. I feel sure that I can get that up to 85% after getting used to the quirks. Speed 9600 with .42bis for 38400. Meaning, E-mail, fine. Surfing, horrid.

The little ir.exe prog off SUPER can be used in server mode to send AT commands to the modem. There might be more interesting things to do with that program, too.

One must call Omnipoint and obtian their data plan. I think several of the Ericsson phones can use this Ir modem, but they have to be the "GSM" versions of the phones.

Check out the Ericsson website.

Darren.


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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:13:34 -0100
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              Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE
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Does anybody know the interpretation of "Ping received out of order"? It
happened  several times when I sent 25 pings to a name server that refused
to resolve an IP address,

When I start LPING without an IP address it offers an optional parameter
Ý-s|/s¨. What is the meaning of this parameter?

Thank you
Norbert


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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:25:06 -0100
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              Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE
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Hallo,

when LXMTA downloads mails from my pop server I can watch the process and I am
told after each message that the message is deleted.

However, if the connection times out in between, and I download a second time,
the same messages that where already downloaded are downloaded a second time.

Is this behaviour specific to of my provider or is it a given function of
LXMTA?

By the way, when LXMTA stops downloading when is reaches the specifid
lxmta.minfree boundary, all works fine.

Thank you
Norbert


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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:36:57 -0100
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              Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE
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Subject:      PPPDOS Unknown options 17 and 19
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Hallo,

while I was debugging a problem with a name server that I could ping, but which
refused to resolve a given name, I spent some effort to study the Link Control
Protocol of PPPD. It was interesting how both parties negotiate their
parameters, like MRU, AUTH PAP, and others.

In the protocol I could see that the two options 11 and 13 (decimal 17 and 19)
are offered by the gateway server, but are unknown to PPPD, and caused it to
send a ConfRej back.

This is not a problem because the link can be established without them, but for
the matter of interest where can I find information about these options? I
studied several RFCs, but without success yet.

Thank you
Norbert
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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:07:59 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      WWW/LX: POST.EXE 2.2f problem
Comments: To: support@dasoft.com
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I just upgraded from POST 2.2d to 22.f and had the following problem
which forced me to fall back to my previous level of 2.2d.

My directory structure looks like this:

  c:\wwwlx\      ...www/lx code files
  c:\wwwlx\0     ...not used by www/lx
  c:\wwwlx\00    ...all email and ng files are kept in this directory
  c:\wwwlx\000   ...not used by www/lx
  c:\wwwlx\temp  ...temp files used by www/lx

When I replaced the 2.2d version of POST.EXE with the 2.2f version it
changed the "Dir=00" lines in the ng and folder sections of my POST.CFG
to "Dir=0".  This of course meant it didn't think I had any files in any
of those areas.  I replaced the CFG with the (still good) BAK file and
tried starting WWW/LX again and it again modified the Dir=00 lines and
came up without any of my files.  I fell back to the 2.2d version of
POST.EXE and the problem went away.

I realize my directory naming convention may be a bit odd but still,
POST shouldn't make those changes.

Russ

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 06:26:56 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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English PG DN

Teilnehmerliste: Stand 24.04.00 06:00 Uhr

Am Samstag, den 6. Mai 2000, 15.00 Uhr findet wieder unser
traditionelles Internationales hp handheld Meeting statt.

Teilnehmer zum Zeitpunkt als die Email versendet wurde:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter

 Organisation: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Ort:          M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Termin:       06.05.2000 15.00 Uhr bis open end

Das Seehaus liegt im Englischen Garten, am Klein Hesseloer See.

Adresse: Klein Hesselohe 3, 80802 M=FCnchen, Tel. +49-89-381 61 30.

Auf dem Isarring in Richtung Osten, zwischen John F. Kennedy
Br=FCcke und Effner Platz, dem Schild folgen > Seehaus. Parkplatz
ist vor der T=FCr.

Einen Auszug aus dem Falkplan, (GIF Datei, Schwarz/Wei=DF oder Farbe),
versende ich gerne auf Wunsch.

Wir freuen uns auf Euer Kommen!

Herzlicher Gru=DF

Helmuth und Caroline
______________________________________

English (short version):

List of participants, date 04/24/00, 06.00 am

Saturday Mai 6, 2000, 3.00 pm our traditional international hp handheld
meeting will take place.

Participants when email was sent:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter

 Organization: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Place:        M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Date:         05/06/00 3.00 pm open end

More details on request.

Looking forward to meet you there.

Regards

Helmuth and Caroline

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Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:20:34 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: PPPD (OK!)

David Becher writes:
> 2. You might accidentally switch to another app by pressing a blue key,and
> I dont know how healthy this would be in the middle of a packet transfer.
> Remember Sysmgr is NOT multitasking. If you switch apps, the app in the
> background STOPS.

Note that LXTCP seems to survive Software Carousel swaps in
the middle of online internet access (as long as your server
is patient enough to wait for you - most POP servers will
wait for at least a couple of minutes).  I used to often swap
to another SC session during a long dwonload if I quickly
need to access a phone number.

Now I just turn on the palm pilot while the HP is downloading :-)

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:01:27 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: LMTA with IMAP

Loic Sautour writes:
> I would like to download e-mails using IMAP that are Flagged AND Unseen.
> Does somebody know if it's possible ? I can either set imap.select to UNSEEN
> or to FLAGGED but how can I combine them together ? Thanks.

You need to look at the IMAP4 RFC (see www.faqs.org) - the
imap.select directive is just a string that is sent verbatim
to the server, so you can put anything in there that the spec
will allow.  I don't have the spec with me at the moment, so I
can't tell you the exact string.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:50:17 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is the 200lx going to whither away?

Stefan Peichl writes:
> Barry wrote:
>
> > I've been wondering since a major 200lx programmer announced that
> > he's going to start developing for the palm, just how much longer
> > people will be using the 200lx.
>
> Rod Whitby's good bye was a sad day for this group. But you
> never know if he's coming back one day. As for me, I will stay
> with the 200LX. I like the Palm "by sight" and I'm flirting
> with her. Lately she put up some color and more brain to please
> me, but I'm almost sure, the first time we go to bed will be a
> complete disaster: an endless line of misunderstandings... ;-)

<blush>

I don't think it was such a sad day - looking at ccLXPOP and
LXgFTP, I think there are a number of "new" major developers
waiting in the wings - remember that all I did was take some
existing open source freeware and customise it a bit for the
palmtop.  Open source allows the baton to be passed instead of
dropped as it would have been if I had only released binaries.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:22:19 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Cellular phone with IrDA + HP200LX: anyone in US?
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Although not quite what you were asking for (no IRDA) I have been using
a Sagem 755 phone for over a year now. The phone contains a modem and
reliability of connection has been very high. Connection to the palmtop
is via a serial cable. As the phone appears as a modem any
communication program will work. Unfortunately I am one of only a few
people to have this setup, I ordered my phone directly from Paris but
subsequent to that Dave Shier was distributing the Sagem phone and
accessories in the US. Unfortunately Dave changed the direction of his
business late last year and no longer distributes them and Sagem no
longer makes a phone for the US market. However there must be alternate
options out there by now.

GaryS

> Traditionaly way to be connected to the internet using cellular phone was
> to use the modem on the HP200LX and cable for the cellular phone. This is
> still not convenient scenario.
>
> I have heard (or thought) of quite a lot of time to be connected
> to the internet using an IrDA cellular phone with WWW/LX, but
> could not find any cellular phone specification that provides
> this capability on the web page (I looked at Nokia). Does anyone
> use this configuration in US?  People in Europe seem to have
> been using this for a while....
>
> Donglok Kim
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:33:16 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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English PG DN

Teilnehmerliste: Stand 24.04.00 14:00 Uhr

Am Samstag, den 6. Mai 2000, 15.00 Uhr findet wieder unser
traditionelles Internationales hp handheld Meeting statt.

Teilnehmer zum Zeitpunkt als die Email versendet wurde:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter
 Max Steger

 Organisation: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Ort:          M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Termin:       06.05.2000 15.00 Uhr bis open end

Das Seehaus liegt im Englischen Garten, am Klein Hesseloer See.

Adresse: Klein Hesselohe 3, 80802 M=FCnchen, Tel. +49-89-381 61 30.

Auf dem Isarring in Richtung Osten, zwischen John F. Kennedy
Br=FCcke und Effner Platz, dem Schild folgen > Seehaus. Parkplatz
ist vor der T=FCr.

Einen Auszug aus dem Falkplan, (GIF Datei, Schwarz/Wei=DF oder Farbe),
versende ich gerne auf Wunsch.

Wir freuen uns auf Euer Kommen!

Herzlicher Gru=DF

Helmuth und Caroline
______________________________________

English (short version):

List of participants, date 04/24/00, 02.00 pm

Saturday Mai 6th 2000, 3.00 pm our traditional international hp handheld
meeting will take place.

Participants when email was sent:

 Andreas Garzotto
 Helmuth E. G=FCnther mit Caroline Sporer
 Gaby Burghardt
 Hans Peter Staber
 Christoph Reiter
 Max Steger

 Organization: Helmuth Guenther h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
 Place:        M=FCnchen, Seehaus
 Date:         05/06/00 3.00 pm open end

More details on request.

Looking forward to meet you there.

Regards

Helmuth and Caroline

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:54:14 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      copy of find?
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Hello esteemed list members,

After playing around with ntime (part of the wattcp utilities) and
a batch file, I arrived at a batch file that will write the system
time to a text file, synch the system clock with a second stratum
ntp time server, and then write the system time to the same file.
The purpose of this is to determine my clock's drift so I can feed
a correction factor into a package (RighTime) that will compensate.

The crucial batch file line is:

  echo | more | time >> synchlog.txt

and let me tell you it took me some effort to find the trick of
echoing more at time to suppress the need for a carriage return!

But here's the reason for my request (you were wondering if the
subject was wrong, weren't you! :).  This command also writes the
line "Enter new time:" to the text file.  My understanding is that
if I use find as a filter thusly:

  echo | more | time | find "C" >> synchlog.txt

I will get only the line with the system time written to the log
file.  Unfortunately, find does not appear to be included in the
200LX ROM version of DOS.  Could some kind soul please send me a
copy of find from DOS 5.0?

Thanks very much!

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 06:46:54 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: copy of find?
Comments: To: Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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The "more" thing to suppress the carriage return is a new one on me.

But another way to do the same thing would be to follow the "echo" with a
period:

     echo.|time

thus removing a program (more) from the picture. I include something of the same
for my laptop bootup:

     echo.|date|find "Cur" >> c:\boot.log
     echo.|time|find "Cur" >> c:\boot.log

and this helps me to keep track of when the system was booted (especially useful
when I suspect someone's been on my system).

Drop me an email if you still need the DOS 5.0 Find ... I don't want to add to a
flood in your email queue.

- Longden





Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> on 04/24/2000 05:54:14 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  copy of find?




Hello esteemed list members,

After playing around with ntime (part of the wattcp utilities) and
a batch file, I arrived at a batch file that will write the system
time to a text file, synch the system clock with a second stratum
ntp time server, and then write the system time to the same file.
The purpose of this is to determine my clock's drift so I can feed
a correction factor into a package (RighTime) that will compensate.

The crucial batch file line is:

  echo | more | time >> synchlog.txt

and let me tell you it took me some effort to find the trick of
echoing more at time to suppress the need for a carriage return!

But here's the reason for my request (you were wondering if the
subject was wrong, weren't you! :).  This command also writes the
line "Enter new time:" to the text file.  My understanding is that
if I use find as a filter thusly:

  echo | more | time | find "C" >> synchlog.txt

I will get only the line with the system time written to the log
file.  Unfortunately, find does not appear to be included in the
200LX ROM version of DOS.  Could some kind soul please send me a
copy of find from DOS 5.0?

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:08:01 -0400
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              dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
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From:         dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives Re: Using vi
Comments: To: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Thanks for the information.  It's always good to learn
something new.  However, I have found that Grandview and
WordPerfect can share files reasonably well, and Grandview
is much better for outlines.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 20, 2000 1:40:45 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives Re: Using
vi


dd diaz wrote:
> Does Framework have collapsible levels?  That's why I
don't
> use WordPerfect or Word for Outlines, because they don't
> hide the sublevels (AFAIK anyway).

You can do one level of "collapsing" in WordPerfect 5.1.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:48:02 -0400
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              Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG>
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From:         Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG>
Subject:      Faxing WP51 Docs
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Is there a way to fax a WP51 document from the 200LX without going through
some ASCII conversion process.  I would like to just fax as is and have the
conversion happen automatically and keep the formatting.

Thanks - Robert

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:36:10 -0700
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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From:         Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Can someone point this gentleman in the right direction?

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Dr. Carl-Werner Oehlrich" <oehlrich@erlangen.com>
To: <jeffj@scott.net>
Subject: Old Borland BCC 2.x?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:06:09 +0200

Hello,
I got sources for the HP200LX and need a Borland C++ 2.x to compile them.
Never versions did not work because lack of x86 code generation.

Do you have an idea where I can get this museum SW.

Thanks
C.W. Oehlrich


--- end of forwarded message ---


Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:29:45 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: large flash
Comments: cc: "Mack Baggette (E-mail)" <mack@times2tech.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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<< I am using a 512MB with no drivers.

>
> Our tests show cards over 220MB need a driver.

>>

Avi, who manufactures your card?

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:53:23 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, ray.simons@JUNO.COM
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Subject:      Re: Fwd: Old Borland BCC 2.x?
Comments: To: jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM
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Here you go:  http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,21751,00.html

Ray Simons
ray.simons@juno.com

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:36:10 -0700 Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> writes:
> Can someone point this gentleman in the right direction?
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: "Dr. Carl-Werner Oehlrich" <oehlrich@erlangen.com>
> To: <jeffj@scott.net>
> Subject: Old Borland BCC 2.x?
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:06:09 +0200
>
> Hello,
> I got sources for the HP200LX and need a Borland C++ 2.x to compile
> them.
> Never versions did not work because lack of x86 code generation.
>
> Do you have an idea where I can get this museum SW.
>
> Thanks
> C.W. Oehlrich
>
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
>
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
>              --   B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com     --
>              --NotAChance.com, Where there's not a chance!--
>              --        http://www.notachance.com          --
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:17:29 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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From:         Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Old Borland BCC 2.x?
Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Done, Jeff... (He sent me the same email privately. I directed him to
Inprise/Borland. It was still a commercial product 6 months ago.)

>>Can someone point this gentleman in the right direction?
>>--- begin of forwarded message ---
>>From: "Dr. Carl-Werner Oehlrich" <oehlrich@erlangen.com>
>>...need a Borland C++ 2.x to compile...

.ed.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:00:38 -0700
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Off subject a bit but I thought someone might be interested in looking at
the
following page, the subject of some discussion earlier:
    http://www.d-store.com/d-store/product/mt-vik.htm

Ray Simons
ray.simons@juno.com

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:29:45 -0500 Hal Goldstein
<hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> writes:
> << I am using a 512MB with no drivers.
>
> >
> > Our tests show cards over 220MB need a driver.
>
> >>
>
> Avi, who manufactures your card?
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:55:59 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Problem with MICQ
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Micq is a Dos version of ICQ. I don't think it was made by Mirabilis, though.
I'm not sure where I picked it up. Anyone?

Philippe

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From: <kelley@wt.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with MICQ


What is micq?  Is it a form of instant messaging for the palm?
I thought i had looked at the icq website for a dos client but couldnt
find one.
Tim

> I tried using MICQ today, but after dialing to my ISP, it asked me to specify
my
> ICQ #, but then every digit I typed resulted in juts a beep from my palmtop.
>
> Any ideas?
>

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:00:53 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Few New 200LX's in stock
Comments: cc: Wayne Kneeskern <wayne_kneeskern@thaddeus.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

We recently were able to purchase some new 200LX's for resale. (These have a
very late serial number. A company bought them last Fall because they
thought they would need them after HP stopped selling them).

We are not advertising them aggressively -- at this time only to this list
and to our major customers.

Preference will be given to 32 and 64 meg orders. We will sell a limited
number of 8 meg units.

There is no way to tell how long they will last -- but if you are
interested, I suggest contacting us right away.

Prices:
64 Meg: $1175
32 Meg: $895
8 Meg: $659

PLEASE -- so we can coordinate the orders and not promise more than we have,
ONLY order them or make inquiries to Wayne Kneeskern, wayne@thaddeus.com.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:44:14 +0200
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              fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM
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From:         Fernando Ruiz <fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP
Comments: cc: ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA
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Hi!:

If you read the help file of cclxpop, it recommends
NO to setup the 'spool' directory at same location of
your e-mail directory.

Eric, I choose the 'spool' directoy under the 'lxtcp'
directory, then try:

mkdir c:\ .... \lxtcp\spool

*** Lxtcp.cfg ***
lxpop.spooldir=c:\ .... \lxtcp\spool\

*** cclxpop.cfg ***
spooldir="c:\ .... \lxtcp\spool\"
ccpath="c:\_dat\mail\"

Best reg's

Fernando Ruiz


-----Original Message-----
From: theise@netins.net Ýmailto:theise@netins.net¨
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 3:24 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: ccLXPOP


Eric Greenspoon writes:
>
> I have a line in my Lxtcp.cfg that reads:
> lxpop.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail\

Try changing this to:  lxmta.spooldir=c:\_dat\mail

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:02:44 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Few New 200LX's in stock
Comments: cc: Wayne Kneeskern <wayne_kneeskern@thaddeus.com>
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Correction --8 Meg units are $699 not $659 as mentioned below.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Goldstein
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 2:01 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Few New 200LX's in stock


We recently were able to purchase some new 200LX's for resale. (These have a
very late serial number. A company bought them last Fall because they
thought they would need them after HP stopped selling them).

We are not advertising them aggressively -- at this time only to this list
and to our major customers.

Preference will be given to 32 and 64 meg orders. We will sell a limited
number of 8 meg units.

There is no way to tell how long they will last -- but if you are
interested, I suggest contacting us right away.

Prices:
64 Meg: $1175
32 Meg: $895
8 Meg: $659

PLEASE -- so we can coordinate the orders and not promise more than we have,
ONLY order them or make inquiries to Wayne Kneeskern, wayne@thaddeus.com.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:29:46 -0700
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              HTI Media <micro@SMARTT.COM>
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From:         HTI Media <micro@SMARTT.COM>
Subject:      my LX got married to my iDEN/PCS phone
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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I recently got my Motorola i1000plus PCS phone, which has a built-in modem,
working like a charm with my 200LX.  It connects at 19200, via COM1, using
the LX serial cable connected to Motorola's optional "PDA adapter" (a DB-9
male-to-male null modem adapter) and data cable which plugs into the bottom
of the phone.

In Canada, the iDEN series i500/700/1000plus phones, which all have standard
modems, are available through "Mike" Clearnet PCS and in the US I believe
through NextTel.  To get the data cable, you have to buy their data kit
which includes Windows software & a manual, neither of which are of any use
to LX users, but the phones themselves are relatively cheap.

The key to getting these phones to work is a special initialization string
which is NOT explained in the documentation.  It is:

AT&FX4

You also have to pay an extra monthly charge to enable data service, which
in Canada is about $5.

On my single speed 2MB LX with 48MB Sandisk CF, I am running Goin' Postal,
which worked effortlessly from the get go.  I messed around for quite some
time trying to get ccLXPOP/PNR/LXPOP/LXMTA running but I could never get
past these programs timing out, though I tried various tweaks as suggested
by people on the list.  I am starting to wonder if the LXTCP mail only works
on double speed palmtops?

All in all, I'm very pleased with this setup; my PCMCIA slot is free, no
modem to carry around (just the extra cable & DB-9), and no problems with
battery life.  Rather a happy marriage so far.  My only complaint is having a
few cables to carry around.

Someone in another thread had mentioned recently they would give up their LX
once they could get a palmtop-like device built into a cell phone.  Picture
this: you are out somewhere trying to get some work done using your
palmtop but every time someone wants to get ahold of you the thing starts
ringing and you have to hold it to your head to talk.  And as a result the
battery keeps running low: grounds for divorce if you ask me.


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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:59:11 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Faxing WP51 Docs
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

        Robert,

> Is there a way to fax a WP51 document from the 200LX without going =
through
> some ASCII conversion process.  I would like to just fax as is and have =
the
> conversion happen automatically and keep the formatting.

WP5.1+ (plus!) does it, I use it regularly.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:28:10 -0400
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              "William E. Blankenship" <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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From:         "William E. Blankenship" <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Stolen 200lx
Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Hello,
 I am very sorry to hear about your loss. I know how insurance agents
can be. They are, often times, apathetic. I would definitely take the
good advice from one of the other posts and contact Thaddeus concerning
availability of a used machine as a replacement. I think you should
publicize the serial number, city and state where it was stolen.
 I live in Columbus, Georgia and if it was stolen in Georgia I will keep
an eye open for it. Definitely file a police report. You never know, it
may eventually turn up. It would be nice to have your day in court
against the thief!!!

WEB

Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> My 200lx was stolen from our vehicle last night.  As I mourn its loss,
> I'm wondering what experiences others in similar situations have had with
> their insurance companies.  Because the 200lx is unavailable any longer,
> I'm concerned about the value they'll attach to it.
>
> Our policy is supposed to be for replacement value.  The only realy guage
> I've gotten so far is an average taken from the eBay sales for the past
> few months (approximately $350.00).  Anything better than that available?
>
> It was a stock 2M 200lx purchased new December 1998.
>
> Appreciating comments and suggestions.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
> PS - I'm sure this is the universe's way to get even with me for
> purchasing and liking a Palm IIIx.
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:04:00 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, qman@EARTHLINK.NET
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      For Sale: Jornada 420 PsPC

Hi All,

For anyone is interested
in buying a Palm-size PC cheap!

Im selling my Jonada 420 (color) PsPC Its in good condition, but it has some scatches on screen.
They're non visible when the
unit is on.

Includes all orginal manuals, software, boxes and hardware.

Im selling it for $160.00 shipping included.

Please reply off the List.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:21:07 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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I appreciate the offers by many to watch for my stolen 200lx.  Unfortunately, for those efforts to be of any value I'd need the serial number.  Though I recall writing it down when I bought it, I've since been unable to find the number.  So, first piece of advice is to turn your machine over and write the number down.  Write it several places and engrave your machine while you're at it.

I found a press release on the Hewlett-Packard page which announces the discontinuation of the HP200lx and announces the Jornada 680 as its replacement.  I've coupled that page with a product page showing the list price of the 680.  One thing I do not have is a page documenting the list price of the HP200lx at its last date of sale.  My insurance has an 80% inflation limit so I think I need something to show that the list price of the 680 is less than 80% more than the 200lx.

I'll let y'all know how it turns out.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:50:37 +0200
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From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Clock synchronization
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On Friday, 21.04.2000 at 22:37 GMT, Theodore Heise  wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> There was a little discussion recently about setting the 200LX
> clock to USNO time.  I think the package dicsussed was Timeset?
> Timeset asks for $40 for registration--a bit pricey for my taste.
> Has anyone used Clockwork on the LX?
>
>   <http://www.ubr.com/clocks/timesw/clocwork/clocwork.html>
>
> It says it's main purpose is to determine and compensate for clock
> drift, but also includes a dialing utility and is only $20.
>
> I've also wondered about getting time via ntp.  At one point I
> tried ntime (included with the wattcp utilities), but seemed to
> have some problems with it.  I recently tried it again and it
> totally barfed (I think the config file name for LXTCP has changed
> since the first time I tried it).   Is anyone using ntime via
> a PPP (or ethernet) connection?
>
I'm synchronizing my laptop with an ntp time source using D4. Then, I use
the ZIP file transfer program (which I also use for backing up my HP 200 LX
to my laptop which is running Windows95) and its "synchronize time" option.
Works very well for me.

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:11:42 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Please check out Post/LX 2.2g on http://www.dasoft.com -
this one has lots of interesting stuff..

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:35:08 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: LXMTA Repeated download after connection timeout.

Norbert Giese writes:
> Hallo,
>
> when LXMTA downloads mails from my pop server I can watch the process and I am
> told after each message that the message is deleted.
>
> However, if the connection times out in between, and I download a second time,
> the same messages that where already downloaded are downloaded a second time.
>
> Is this behaviour specific to of my provider or is it a given function of
> LXMTA?

IIRC it works this way: LXMTA downloads each message and adds it to the file
incoming.mai. It then sends a message to the server to delete the message. (If you
have told it to do this). At the end of the download, if LXMTA has disconnected
from the server in an orderly and polite manner, the server will then delete
the messages.

If you have a timeout, LXMTA disconnects very rudely from the server, who doesnt
know that the messages have been senot ok, so they are retained.

In order to fix this in LXMTA, I believe that LXMTA should save it's downloaded
data to an intermediate file, and only at the end copy it to incoming.mai
(or pnrti could do it.)

The best workaraound that I have found is:
1. I normally empty my incoming.mai before downloading as downloading will
cause all read messages to be unread. So if the download files I trash the
incoming.mai file (or rename it.)

2. Try not to have timeouts :) I have found that the most obvious cause for timeouts
on the HP200 is light sleep. When I go online I disable light sleep (using LXSTAT
avaliable on SUPER). Since I did this I have not had any timeout problems.
- Dont forget to reenable it when you go offline.
I modified dial.bat to do all this automatically.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:27:59 +0200
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              JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
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From:         Jez Cunningham <JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR>
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To John Van der Stel and others...

Having just received my Rex from "Mark Willis' buying club" I have managed
to load the Phone database via a csv export and some clean-up work in Excel
(change lastname, firstname to two separate columns...)

So now I'm VERY keen to find a better way and hoping that there is some
progress to be reported on the s/w development???

Hopefully
Jez

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:10:16 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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FYI I find your `home page' nearly impossible to read. It is probably
my aging eyes, but the type is too small for me and the `background' on
the left side ends up looking like smudged paper.

Please note that it is not my purpose to trouble you or to `gripe', but
rather just to say that the page `doesn't work for me' and gets in the
way of communicating about your products rather than aiding in the process.

A Meshar wrote:
>
> Please check out Post/LX 2.2g on http://www.dasoft.com -
> this one has lots of interesting stuff..
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:58:47 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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doesn't it draw tons of power? you get the csv, how does the lx see the
card? does it just see it as an a: drive?

looking forward to getting this going!!

is there a web-site etc?


---------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Johnson
Network Support Consultant
Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:43:43 -0400
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              Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG>
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From:         Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Faxing WP51 Docs
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Is WP5.1+ and add onor update?  Is it still available?

From: Guenther Helmuth E. Ýmailto:h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET¨

> Is there a way to fax a WP51 document from the 200LX without going through
> some ASCII conversion process.  I would like to just fax as is and have
the
> conversion happen automatically and keep the formatting.

WP5.1+ (plus!) does it, I use it regularly.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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From:         Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: my LX got married to my iDEN/PCS phone
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> I recently got my Motorola i1000plus PCS phone, which has a built-in modem,
> working like a charm with my 200LX.  It connects at 19200, via COM1, using
> the LX serial cable connected to Motorola's optional "PDA adapter" (a DB-9
> male-to-male null modem adapter) and data cable which plugs into the bottom
> of the phone.

> In Canada, the iDEN series i500/700/1000plus phones, which all have standard
> modems, are available through "Mike" Clearnet PCS and in the US I believe
> through NextTel.  To get the data cable, you have to buy their data kit
> which includes Windows software & a manual, neither of which are of any use
> to LX users, but the phones themselves are relatively cheap.
>
I was recently in the market for a new cell phone, and was all set to buy a
"Tri-Mode" Nokia 6160 for this purpose. It features a built-in modem and IrDA
connection which I figured would work with my 200LX and WWW/LX. At the last
minute I found out that my cell provider here in Canada (Rogers-Cantel/AT&T)
doesn't yet support data. Sigh!

Depending on your service, you might want to check out the Nokia 6000 series
yourself, however.

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:53:13 +0200
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So far I just loaded my REX with address info via the PCMCIA slot in my
laptop.  The laptop just saw it as an SRAM CARD and the TrueSync software
imported my csv file and then loaded the data to the Rex card.

To do it with less manipulation on the laptop would be good.  To do it
direct from the hplx would be wonderful!

No website on the subject afaik.

br
Jez

    mark.johnson asked:

    doesn't it draw tons of power? you get the csv, how does the lx see
    the card? does it just see it as an a: drive?

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:10:15 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Clock synchronization

Nettamer does this. Whenever you dial in it syncs the time automatically to
a specified time server. It's a pretty good internet solution for the LX if
you can do without a GUI web browser.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ulrich Boche Ýmailto:BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM¨
>Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 7:51 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Clock synchronization
>
>
>On Friday, 21.04.2000 at 22:37 GMT, Theodore Heise  wrote:
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> There was a little discussion recently about setting the 200LX
>> clock to USNO time.  I think the package dicsussed was Timeset?
>> Timeset asks for $40 for registration--a bit pricey for my taste.
>> Has anyone used Clockwork on the LX?
>>
>>   <http://www.ubr.com/clocks/timesw/clocwork/clocwork.html>
>>
>> It says it's main purpose is to determine and compensate for clock
>> drift, but also includes a dialing utility and is only $20.
>>
>> I've also wondered about getting time via ntp.  At one point I
>> tried ntime (included with the wattcp utilities), but seemed to
>> have some problems with it.  I recently tried it again and it
>> totally barfed (I think the config file name for LXTCP has changed
>> since the first time I tried it).   Is anyone using ntime via
>> a PPP (or ethernet) connection?
>>
>I'm synchronizing my laptop with an ntp time source using D4.
>Then, I use
>the ZIP file transfer program (which I also use for backing up
>my HP 200 LX
>to my laptop which is running Windows95) and its "synchronize
>time" option.
>Works very well for me.
>
>Ulrich Boche
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:11:43 -0400
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

David Ness wrote:

> FYI I find your `home page' nearly impossible to read. It is probably> =
my aging eyes, but the type is too small for me and the `background' on > =
the left side ends up looking like smudged paper.


Use your LX then!


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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:30:46 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Bruce Martin wrote:
>
> I was recently in the market for a new cell phone, and was all set to buy a
> "Tri-Mode" Nokia 6160 for this purpose. It features a built-in modem and IrDA
> connection which I figured would work with my 200LX and WWW/LX. At the last
> minute I found out that my cell provider here in Canada (Rogers-Cantel/AT&T)
> doesn't yet support data. Sigh!
>
> Depending on your service, you might want to check out the Nokia 6000 series
> yourself, however.
>
> Bruce in Toronto
>

I don't want to speak for the situation in Canada, but I might note the the
Nokia 6160 `Tri-Mode' does not have IrDA, at least in the configuration as it
is sold in the US. It _does_ have the little IrDA window, but there are no
electronics behind this window, much to the _surprise_ of many people who
assumed that the device did IrDA.

I am surprised, I guess, that Nokia would build phones with dramatically
different capabilities and leave them under the same model number, but
that must be the situation if your 6160s are _that_ different from ours.
I would also note that Nokia's web site doesn't mention any IrDA capability
with the 6160 line.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:39:57 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Lars Hedstroem wrote:
>
> David Ness wrote:
>
> FYI I find your `home page' nearly impossible to read. It is probably
> my aging eyes, but the type is too small for me and the `background' on
> the left side ends up looking like smudged paper.
>
> Use your LX then!
>
> Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

Why, so I can read stuff at 14.4K/sec that I normally read at 1meg/sec?

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:57:33 -0100
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              Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE
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For the matter of conpleteness: I found some information about these PPP
configuration options. They concern Multilink MRRU and
Multilink-Endpoint-Discrimination. My conclusion is that the absence of these
capabilites in PPPD does not matter on a 200LX.

Regards
Norbert

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:17:35 +0100
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From:         Lawrence Fast <lfast@NATIVELAW.COM>
Subject:      Faxing WP51 Documents
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>>Is there a way to fax a WP51 document from the 200LX without going
>>through
>> some ASCII conversion process.  I would like to just fax as is and have
>>the
>> conversion happen automatically and keep the formatting.

>WP5.1+ (plus!) does it, I use it regularly.

>Kind regards

>Helmuth

What is wp5.1+ (plus!) and how does it work.  Both DOSfax and Quicklink
allow you to print directly to the fax programme from within WordPerfect.
Is WP5.1 + a qualitatively different process?

Larry Fast

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:39:07 +0000
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From:         Ted Peterson <ted@NICAR.ORG>
Organization: IRE/NICAR
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Old Borland BCC 2.x?
Comments: cc: oehlrich@erlangen.com
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I just purchased Borland C++ 2.0 for DOS from emsps.com:
        http://www.emsps.com/oldtools/borc.htm

Cheers,
   Ted Peterson

On 24 Apr 00 8:36, Jeff wrote:
From: Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>

> Can someone point this gentleman in the right direction?
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: "Dr. Carl-Werner Oehlrich" <oehlrich@erlangen.com>
> To: <jeffj@scott.net>
> Subject: Old Borland BCC 2.x?
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:06:09 +0200
>
> Hello,
> I got sources for the HP200LX and need a Borland C++ 2.x to compile
> them. Never versions did not work because lack of x86 code
> generation.
>
> Do you have an idea where I can get this museum SW.
>
> Thanks
> C.W. Oehlrich
>
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
>
>
> Jeff
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:49:56 -0500
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: my LX got married to my iDEN/PCS phone
Comments: To: "Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM" <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I have done this with the sprint web phone as well at 14.4.

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
N: 29.716837 W: -95.462008

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:51:53 -0500
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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Comments: To: "DNess@HOME.COM" <DNess@HOME.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I think the web page is probably optimized for an lx browser.

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:11:49 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Faxing WP51 Docs
Comments: To: Robert Edson <redson@ERIM.ORG>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Robert,

> Is WP5.1+ and add onor update?  Is it still available?

It is another version, so far I know.

I bought mine at: RECYCLED SOFTWARE, INC.

http://www.recycledsoftware.com/

Kind regards

Helmuth


>
> From: Guenther Helmuth E. Ýmailto:h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET¨
>
> > Is there a way to fax a WP51 document from the 200LX without going =
through
> > some ASCII conversion process.  I would like to just fax as is and =
have
> the
> > conversion happen automatically and keep the formatting.
>
> WP5.1+ (plus!) does it, I use it regularly.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
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I have downloaded Dosfax and it is not clear how you are printing to this
program from within WP5.1 and making it work.  Would you pls provide more
details - Thanks



>What is wp5.1+ (plus!) and how does it work.  Both DOSfax and Quicklink
>allow you to print directly to the fax programme from within WordPerfect.
>Is WP5.1 + a qualitatively different process?

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:55:06 -0400
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: lawrence_foo@mazak.co.jp (Lawrence Foo)

Subscriber Comments: Hello all,

Do any of you guys/gals know where to get Quicken For Windows
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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David Ness wrote:
> FYI I find your `home page' nearly impossible to read. It is probably
> my aging eyes, but the type is too small for me and the `background' on
> the left side ends up looking like smudged paper.

The font you can adjust in your own browser! I have some
control over it (and I increased the font a bit), but not
much. Click on Edit, Preferences, and then Fonts - and
change it your heart's desire!

The smudge is supposed to be a "watermark" background
combining several product icons. I _can_ control that, and
did. I just turned off the background image - just for you!
:-) .... Try again. You may want to try a higher resolution
on your monitor? I use 800 by 600 LCD. in 640x480 it is
still discernible, but looks kinda bad. Well, it is out
now.

> Please note that it is not my purpose to trouble you or to `gripe', but
> rather just to say that the page `doesn't work for me' and gets in the
> way of communicating about your products rather than aiding in the process.

The feedback is VALUABLE! I listen.

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From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
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On Tuesday, 25.04.2000 at 15:10 GMT, Ed Padin  wrote:
> Nettamer does this. Whenever you dial in it syncs the time automatically
to
> a specified time server. It's a pretty good internet solution for the LX
if
> you can do without a GUI web browser.
>
Well, I'm not dialling into the Internet with my HP 200 LX, so this is a
very cheap solution (I'm usually on a LAN with my ThinkPad). Also, if I
would want to use the Internet from the palmtop, I would acquire WWW/LX.

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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Faxing WP51 Documents
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Robert,

I never used DOSfax, sorry.

Kind regards

Helmuth

> I have downloaded Dosfax and it is not clear how you are printing to =
this
> program from within WP5.1 and making it work.  Would you pls provide =
more
> details - Thanks
>
> >What is wp5.1+ (plus!) and how does it work.  Both DOSfax and Quicklink
> >allow you to print directly to the fax programme from within WordPerfec=
t.
> >Is WP5.1 + a qualitatively different process?
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A Meshar wrote:
>
> The font you can adjust in your own browser! I have some
> control over it (and I increased the font a bit), but not
> much. Click on Edit, Preferences, and then Fonts - and
> change it your heart's desire!
>
> The smudge is supposed to be a "watermark" background
> combining several product icons. I _can_ control that, and
> did. I just turned off the background image - just for you!
> :-) .... Try again. You may want to try a higher resolution
> on your monitor? I use 800 by 600 LCD. in 640x480 it is
> still discernible, but looks kinda bad. Well, it is out
> now.

Thank you for your response. I'm sure you can understand that I am not
very interested in `adjusting' my browser parameters as I look at several
hundred (thousand?) pages per day, and most of them look fine just as is.
Screwing around with my browser in order to view your page falls somewhere
off the edge of the earth on my priority list.

FYI I generally run my browsers on screens of 800x600, 1024x768 or 1280x1024.
At the moment it is set to 1024x768 (16m colors) and your bage is nearly
unreadable, so quite clearly `higher resolution' is no solution.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> Please check out Post/LX 2.2g on http://www.dasoft.com -
> this one has lots of interesting stuff..

Thank you, Avi.

How nice it is to receive regular, useful updates to software,
without having to fork out yet more money, unlike certain
other software companies.

The BCC will be a real boon to me, because I hated having to
revert to using my desktop when I needed this functionality.

I've BCC'd this e-mail to someone else, and you'll never know
who!

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Mike Melancon wrote:

> I also use Grandview 2.0 and I have yet to see any Y2K problem with it.

<snip>

> If you see a copy for sale - GRAB IT UP!!

Thanks to all who suggested GrandView. At last, I think I've
found something to move beyond the built in appointments todo
program. It really is a gem of a program.

I'm very lucky, because I've owned a computer company for 11
years and accumulated loads of "junk". Every time someone
mentions some software, I run to the shelves of old stuff that
nobody wants anymore and there it is!

The copy of GrandView 2.0 was unopened with manuals etc. I've
also seen Lotus 1-2-3 v2.4, Xtree Gold 2.5, Central Point PC
tools v7, MS Flight Sim v4.0, FoxPro 2.5 and Word Perfect 5.1.
Also got MS Word v1.00 with runtime copy of Windows and a
hardback manual.  All still boxed with manuals. I feel like
I've won the lottery!

I'm greedy, so I still want to hang on to all of this stuff
except WP which I'll never use. I can't find the disks (they
may still turn up) but if anyone would like to buy the manuals
(for a fair price), then e-mail me off list. They're in London
in the UK, BTW.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:16:55 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Special SMTP in Post/LX (was: Re: T-Online & SMTP.COMPUSERVE.COM)
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Hi Hans Peter

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:22:31 -0500, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> If in the Ýmybeloved¨ mailbox section of POST.CFG you have a setting like:
>
> SMTP=my.beloved.smtp
>
> add a line such as
>
> Special=CIS
>
> and one line like
>
> SpecialSMTP=smtp.compuserve.com

Can I also give more than one WWW setup name at the "Special" line? I
have every setup for every ISP in WWW/LX twice: one for an PCMCIA-Modem
and one for an external modem. So I had to let Post/LX ust a special
SMTP for _2_ WWW setups.

And: Can I set up Post/LX to not use the PopFirst setting when using
this "special" WWW setup?

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:27:01 +0200
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              fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM
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From:         Fernando Ruiz <fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM>
Subject:      Networking
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Hi!:

after setup my 200 to work with modem and access
internet and e-mail via ISP (PPP), now I'm interesting
to setup the 200 to work on my ethernet network.

I'm new in this field and I'm greateful you if you
could deliver some guidelines or links or informotion ...
about how to set up a PCMCIA network card.

I can read that not all network PCMCIA can run with
200lx (It's possible for memory limitation???) but
in this moment I've avalaible:

- Xircom Credit Card Ethernet IIps
- 3COM 10/100 Fast Ethernet - 3CXFE575BT

It's possible run some of this PCMCIA cards ????

Thank you for all your help ...

Best reg's

Fernando Ruiz

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Good Day,

I have a Databook unit that I have not been able to get working. This
unit is not listed on the web page. The controller card is an ISA 8-bit
card labelled Databook TMC-200-99 Rev G. The board has a bank of 8 dip
switches and 3 jumpers. The interface to the card has a thin slot. The
front of the unit says 'ThincardDRIVE'. The front has busy, WP, batt
led's. The card in the reader says DATABOOK INC. TMD-100-03 Rev. D.  The
assembly was pulled from a HP 486 computer about two years ago.

Any information would be appreciated. I may even sell it cheap.

David Peterson

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:21:09 -0400 "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
writes:
> I have used both a Databook TMB-240 (probably not available new
> anywhere)
>...

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:41:56 -0400
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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: large flash
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:19:50 -0700 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> I am using a 512MB with no drivers.
> Hal Goldstein wrote:
> > Our tests show cards over 220MB need a driver.

Avi, could you provide more details on that one?  Brand, and
drivers you happen to have loaded for other purposes, and
how much of the card is in use.

TIA

Domingo

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:56:17 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> <<<You sound like a prime candidate for the new Unix palm device.  I
> don't know much about it but I have seen it and it looks rather
> cool.>>>
>
> I haven't heard about that one.  Tell me more.

There are many sites which talk about the Yopi from Samsung.  Here is
one:
http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/index.htm

Domingo

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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:11:31 -0700 lfast@nativelaw.com writes:
> Unfortunately Symantec has not released GrandView into the common
> pool of software knowledge.  I also understand that Symantec continues
to
> charge the usual combination of human limbs for a registered version of

> GrandView. However, my information on that subject is quite dated.

Grandview is free from Symantec (that is, freely NOT available). :-(
I wonder why they still have the demo on their site if they won't sell
the full version (I did not mention that to them in case they just forgot
to take it off the web).  :-)

Domingo

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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Time table program
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 06:54:05 -0500 Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> writes:
> Just a note of interest... CC+ is still alive and kicking.  The
> fellow at my church who schedules activities for different rooms and
such
> uses it for keeping track of which group gets which room on which date.

> He prints a weekly calendar and posts it.  I'm sure there is something
> newer and easier to use, but he knows this program, and it still
works.
> Never tried it on the 200LX, as you reported.

There is a Windows version, but I have not seen it in stores in a long
time.
MS Excell can be used to do the same thing reasonably well, but when I
convert
the file to Lotus 123, is not so nice (I suppose I expect too much of the
conversion and displaying process).

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:36:13 -0400
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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Time table program
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:11:56 +0100 David McIntosh
<david@UNSPACY.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:
> In the end, I created a 1-2-3 sheet with a Macro to print the
> finished time-table to a text file, and added a line to Pocket Launcher
to
> display said text file in QuickView.  It seems to do the job now.
Cheers
> for knocking some sense into me :)

You must not use much formating for that to worK?   I was hoping for
something like tables or boxes, which would not be accidentally deleted
as I added or deleted text.

> I just assumed that it'd be such a common problem that someone would
> have written a simple app to tackle it.  (Maybe a good EXM to start
with
> if I ever get around to learning to code for 200LX ;)

I thought the same, but it never ocurred to me to bug the group about it
a few years ago.

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:15:31 -0400
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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: GrandView, Framework and a Loaf of Bread
Comments: To: lfast@NATIVELAW.COM
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:57:31 -0700 Lawrence Fast <lfast@NATIVELAW.COM>
writes:

Thanks for your interesting review.

snip
>  Framework is superior to GrandView in creating finished
> documents.
snip
> Fine polishing of GrandView created and organized materials is
> relatively easy.  Simply export everything into a WordPerfect 5.1 file
using
> the GrandView export command.  The resultant file can then easily be
> read by almost all Win word processors as well as WordPerfect 5.1.

Which do you then prefer for finished documents, Frameworks or
Grandview + WordPerfect?

I have been trying every outliner I can get my hands on, and the most
pleasant
to use is Memo on the hplx.   Easy on the eyes, very intuitive, I copied
down a whole
lecture this weekend with it.   Of course, it is very simple, so it would
be neat to start
outlines on Memo and finish them on Grandview, if there was a smooth way
to
convert the outlines.   I have tried converting to RTF, but it seems no
better than
converting to ASCII (actually ASCII gives better convertion results. but
much editing
in Grandview is still necessary).

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:25:05 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Time table program
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:23:10 -0500 "Ed Keefe" <emkeefe@uswest.net>
writes:
> >>What is needed is the electronic equivalent of a weekly wall
> schedule of activities which changes infrequently, but must be refered
to often
>
> This sounds to me like "Calendar Creator Plus" which was a
> commercial product long ago. I tried this on the LX and recall that it
worked
> but was not very intuitive and was dog slow to build a calendar. I
never did
> try to find a faster replacement but there might be something like it
in
> the Simtel archives or elsewhere.

I was thinking more along the lines of displaying than printing.  I think
CC+
is intended more for printing than for displaying, and yes, I did find
long ago a Simtel alternative, and it also is more for printing wall
calendars
than for displaying them.   If someone could be encouraged to code a
simple
application to display a weekly calendar, it would be neat.  I have seen
a few
very simplistic applications on SUPER (I have a note taker which displays
a
screenful of information on Sysmgr when pressing Shift-F1.   Very fast,
easy to
read, and it does nothing else), so such a thing could be done along the
same lines.

Any takers?  :-)

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:16:39 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Lars Hedstroem wrote:
> David Ness wrote:
>
> > FYI I find your `home page' nearly impossible to read. It is probably>
> my aging eyes, but the type is too small for me and the `background' on >
> the left side ends up looking like smudged paper.
>
> Use your LX then!

Lars, Nah... I took out the background GIF. It would be
nice if the image showed up well in all machines and
monitors, but it is not that good if it is good in some and
ugly in other monitors. So I took it out.

As far as fonts are concerned - each viewer can adjust
their own fonts as they wish to have. However, some writing
appears inside images, and that is not adjustable by the
viewer. On our Webpage there is one single such occasion,
and it will show fine because it is in black and white (2
glorious colors!) The rest of the writing is HTML text
which is adjustable by the viewer. I have some limited
control, for example I can designate some text as a header
of a certain size etc. The big browsers allow you to change
the main font and its size. In some cases, you can dig
deeper and also designate the relative size of header 1 vs.
header 2 vs. normal text etc.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:16:44 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: "Kelley, Timothy P" <kelletp@TEXACO.COM>
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Tim,

Kelley, Timothy P wrote:
> I think the web page is probably optimized for an lx browser.

Yes, it is optimized for HV, but I am debating with myself
if this should go on. I can do much better things if I was
not stuck in HV-compatibility mode! :-)

However I try to make it look decent in Netscape and MS
Internet Explorer and Opera. The page renders reasonably
well in all. What I cannot control well, which irritated
David, is the monitor quality, and so I took out the
"smudge" (formerly known as a background gif with our name
and icon pictures of the products :-) ...) It serves
nothing if it shows fine here and ugly there...

The other item I can only partially control is the font of
the text. All the browsers leave that up to the viewer to
determine which font to use and at what size.

I thought about making a page that will notice if you use
HV or other browsers, but it means twice the work for me
and I hardly have time for one thing, let alone two.

Don't get me wrong, I like the portable functionality of
HV, but the Web is less and less accommodating of that
little gem, and so its results are less and less
satisfactory.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:16:52 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147)
Comments: To: Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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Thank you so much for posting this again. I love to read
these messages - at least no one disagrees with me in them,
no one gives me a hard time in these messages, and no one
tells me our products are good/bad whatever. Could you
kindly post another 500 of these?

<swoip!> (extracting tongue from cheek!)

Can you please stop posting this dreck - you posted a
similar one the other day...

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

Stephen Petty wrote:
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:         HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨  On
> > Behalf Of Automatic digest processor
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 12:00 AM
> > To:   Recipients of HPLX-L digests
> > Subject:      HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147)
> >
> >  << Message:  HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147) (768
> > bytes) >>  << Message: International hp handheld meeting (1.35 KB) >>  <<
> > Message: Re: PPPD (OK!) (646 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: LMTA with IMAP
> > (534 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Is the 200lx going to whither away? (908
> > bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Cellular phone with IrDA + HP200LX: anyone in
> > US? (1.19 KB) >>  << Message: International hp handheld meeting (1.37 KB)
> > >>  << Message: copy of find? (1.10 KB) >>  << Message: Re: copy of find?
> > (1.66 KB) >>  << Message: Re: Outliners and Y2k - GrandView lives Re:
> > Using vi (672 bytes) >>  << Message: Faxing WP51 Docs (306 bytes) >>  <<
> > Message: Fwd: Old Borland BCC 2.x? (792 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: large
> > flash (245 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Fwd: Old Borland BCC 2.x? (1.17 KB)
> > >>  << Message: Re: Fwd: Old Borland BCC 2.x? (429 bytes) >>  << Message:
> > Re: large flash (735 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Problem with MICQ (677
> > bytes) >>  << Message: Few New 200LX's in stock (721 bytes) >>  <<
> > Message: Re: ccLXPOP (903 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Few New 200LX's in
> > stock (942 bytes) >>  << Message: my LX got married to my iDEN/PCS phone
> > (1.68 KB) >>  << Message: Re: Faxing WP51 Docs (421 bytes) >>  << Message:
> > Re: Stolen 200lx (1.42 KB) >>  << Message: For Sale: Jornada 420 PsPC (365
> > bytes) >>
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:16:49 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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David, I agree ith you. I fixed the Webpage so it has no
background and in any case, you can adjust the fonts on
your browser. Try preferences, or on the fly adjustments in
Netscape CTRL-¨ and CTRL-Ý (this is CTRL and left/right square
brackets.)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

David Ness wrote:
> Lars Hedstroem wrote:
> >
> > David Ness wrote:
> >
> > FYI I find your `home page' nearly impossible to read. It is probably
> > my aging eyes, but the type is too small for me and the `background' on
> > the left side ends up looking like smudged paper.
> >
> > Use your LX then!
> >
> > Lars Hedstroem/Sweden
>
> Why, so I can read stuff at 14.4K/sec that I normally read at 1meg/sec?
>
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>

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:07:38 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: my LX got married to my iDEN/PCS phone
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
In-Reply-To:  <852568CC.00512754.00@MLILHUB01@manulife.com>
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>>"Tri-Mode" Nokia 6160 for this purpose. It features a built-in
>>modem and IrDA

you sure that 6160 isnt a typo? I have a 6160 and have been told numerous
times that there is no ir hardware under the red cover and if there is a
built in modem I would be interested in details about using it

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:07:46 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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>>The feedback is VALUABLE! I listen.

and acted! <g>

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:07:57 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: GrandView and other old DOS s/w
Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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>>Also got MS Word v1.00 with runtime copy of Windows and a

that's pretty old, I have shrink wrapped copies of sidekick and deskview
both the first releases, anybody even remember these programs?

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:10:25 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147)
Comments: To: Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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From:         Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147)
To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
In-Reply-To:  <200004250001520.SM00329@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>


> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:         HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨  On
> > Behalf Of Automatic digest processor
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 12:00 AM
> > To:   Recipients of HPLX-L digests
> > Subject:      HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147)
> >
> >  << Message:  HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147) (768
> > bytes) >>  << Message: International hp handheld meeting (1.35 KB) >>  <<
> > Message: Re: PPPD (OK!) (646 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: LMTA with IMAP
> > (534 bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Is the 200lx going to whither away? (908
> > bytes) >>  << Message: Re: Cellular phone with IrDA + HP200LX: anyone in
> > US? (1.19 KB) >>  << Message: International hp handheld meeting (1.37 KB)

etc, etc, and so forth.

I have seen a number of these over the last few days.  What are they?
Should they be shown or is someone accidently mailing or forwarding
this?

I believe the name at the top is the same one, too.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:16:44 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 23 Apr 2000 to 24 Apr 2000 (#2000-147)
Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
In-Reply-To:  <20000426031025.YIEW1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>
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>>I have seen a number of these over the last few days.  What are they?
>>Should they be shown or is someone accidently mailing or forwarding
>>this?

I beleive this person is trying to send the server a list of the messages or
threads he wants to download he just needs to send this command to the
command server not the list server itself

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:45:14 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
Subject:      xtree gold 3.01
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If anyone on the list has this DOS version of XTreeGold v.3.01 please contact
me off list. Thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:27:20 -0700
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              Steve Ferrier <ferrier@PROAXIS.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Steve Ferrier <ferrier@PROAXIS.COM>
Subject:      Escape Codes over IR to the DJ340
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Greetings from a newbie!

I'm trying to run the Deskjet 340 with IrDA interface with the HP200LX.
Everything works fine except that I can't get out of the Courier typeface.
In other words, I can't get the PCL3 Printer Command escape sequences which
change typefaces to work from the Memo printer initialization line in Memo
Printer Setup.  I have the 200LX's Setup window interface set to infrared,
and I have installed the 200LX IrDA software driver available on the HP
website.  Other printer command escape sequences (lines per inch, landscape
vs. portrait) work fine, but I can't get the internal typeface on the DJ340
to change.  HP hasn't been able to help me.

My escape sequence in the initialization box is simply \027E\027(s4101T.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Steve Ferrier

SDG Analytic, Inc.
http://www.proaxis.com/~ferrier
ferrier@proaxis.com
Tel 541-757-9722
Fax 541-757-9757

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:32:17 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      SURVEY: HPLX <--> cell phone
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi friends,

this time I donT want to ask you about EMI errors and IR connections,
but I'd love to get information from you about connections between the
LX and a cell phone at all.

I'm planning to make a web page containing these informations, so that
everyone who wants to go online mobile first can look at this site and
see the advantages / disadvantages of the mobile phone of his choice.

It would be great if all of you who answer me would allow me to publish
your eail address, so that if someone who reads these informations can
also ask an owner of a special phone directly.

Thanks in advance!


===================================================================

What cell phone do you use?


What kind of connection is possible? (IR / serial cable / PCMCIA card)


If you know the software version of your cell phone please write it
down here.


What software do you use on the LX to connect?


Did you have any problems with the connection? If yes, what Problems
and how did you solve them?


Is there something special to do to make the connection{s} work? E.g. A
special modem init string?


Any other comments?


If I may publish your email address, please write it down here.


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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:36:00 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      SURVEY: HPLX <--> cell phone ADDITION
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Sorry, I forgot an important question:

What cellular network  and what internet service provider do you use And where
do you use them?

Did you have to ask them to allow you data connections?


Do you have to pay extra money for data connections?



TNX
daniel

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telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:15 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@Home.Com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

David, I saw your message and it was a bit strange to me,
so I decided to reply in private.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:18 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX 2.2g is now available.
Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Chris,

Chris Randle wrote:
> How nice it is to receive regular, useful updates to software,
> without having to fork out yet more money, unlike certain
> other software companies.

Well, this too will end. Eventually we will have a major
release and it'll cost. So far we brought out about 15-20
updates since April 1998!!!

> The BCC will be a real boon to me, because I hated having to
> revert to using my desktop when I needed this functionality.

Well, the BCC fix may not be 100% proven yet. I think it
is, but maybe test it carefully. You know that this was
brought on because of the terrible incident you told here.
It was awfully embarrassing to me, for you, and for myself,
in more ways than one. Andreas deserves the credit for
putting up with the beta testers, and still putting the
code together!

> I've BCC'd this e-mail to someone else, and you'll never know
> who!

The headers show not a trace of BCC at all. Good. And you
will never know if I BCCd this or not, huh? :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:23 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Special SMTP in Post/LX (was: Re: T-Online &
              SMTP.COMPUSERVE.COM)
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Can I also give more than one WWW setup name at the "Special" line? I
> have every setup for every ISP in WWW/LX twice: one for an PCMCIA-Modem
> and one for an external modem. So I had to let Post/LX ust a special
> SMTP for _2_ WWW setups.

1 SpecialSMTP only per box.

> And: Can I set up Post/LX to not use the PopFirst setting when using
> this "special" WWW setup?

Why care? Makes no difference to the ISP Servers. I am
thinking about recommending ot make it the default mode,
maybe the only mode.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:28 -0400
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D Dv wrote:
> Avi, could you provide more details on that one?  Brand, and
> drivers you happen to have loaded for other purposes, and
> how much of the card is in use.

I put the card into a dead palmtop, put batteries in and
filer recognized it immediately. There was not even the spd
driver in that machine. I plan to begin selling the cards,
so for now I will give no more information.

Here is the chkdsk:


 525565952 bytes total disk space
   5169152 bytes in 60 hidden files
    548864 bytes in 66 directories
 157384704 bytes in 1549 user files
 362463232 bytes available on disk

      8192 bytes in each allocation unit
     64156 total allocation units on disk
     44246 available allocation units on disk

    648192 total bytes memory
    520160 bytes free

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:43 -0400
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Ok, So I had a few moments and I tried it :-)

Now it is your turn. I reworked the main page of D&A
Software Website to include no headings and <pre> tags etc.
It is a "plain vanilla" one now. That means that David Ness
would be able to see the page without any problems and
without having to adjust the fonts on his browser.

It is now your turn to tell me what you think.

The original is at http://www.dasoft.com/

The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html

Let me know please what you think. Thank you in advance for
the feedback.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:03:18 -0400
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Hi Old friend! Glad to see your name here every now and
then :)

> >>The feedback is VALUABLE! I listen.
>
> and acted! <g>
>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:12:00 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 23 Apr 2000 21:29:21 -0700, "Guenther Helmuth E."
<h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> English (short version):
>
> List of participants, date 04/24/00, 06.00 am
>
> Saturday Mai 6, 2000, 3.00 pm our traditional international hp handheld
> meeting will take place.

I am curious what goes on on these meetings. I live many thousend
kilometers away so I will not be attending. But what am I missing out
on?

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:12:04 -0400
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On 25 Apr 2000 08:32:49 -0700, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> Bruce Martin wrote:
> >
> > I was recently in the market for a new cell phone, and was all set to buy a
> > "Tri-Mode" Nokia 6160 for this purpose. It features a built-in modem and IrDA
> > connection which I figured would work with my 200LX and WWW/LX. At the last
> > minute I found out that my cell provider here in Canada (Rogers-Cantel/AT&T)
> > doesn't yet support data. Sigh!
> >
> > Depending on your service, you might want to check out the Nokia 6000 series
> > yourself, however.
> >
> > Bruce in Toronto
> >
>
> I don't want to speak for the situation in Canada, but I might note the the
> Nokia 6160 `Tri-Mode' does not have IrDA, at least in the configuration as it
> is sold in the US. It _does_ have the little IrDA window, but there are no
> electronics behind this window, much to the _surprise_ of many people who
> assumed that the device did IrDA.

You are correct. Here in Europe people still get suprised when they
find out that their 6110/6150 does not have irda or internal modem.

The ir window is used to play 2 player Snake and transfer
phonenumbers/callinggroup icons and stuff like that. If you want to use
it as a modem you need Nokia Cellular Datasuite. I do not know if NCDS
can be used for data on the Us/Canada models. But it can not be used on
the Hplx because it is a Win platform softwaremodem.

> I am surprised, I guess, that Nokia would build phones with dramatically
> different capabilities and leave them under the same model number, but
> that must be the situation if your 6160s are _that_ different from ours.

Yes that suprises me too. I have heard about the 6160 in
news:alt.cellular.nokia but I do not know that much about it. But it
would suprise me if it has "full blown irda".

The Nokia models that has irda modem capabilitys is:
8810=900Mhz (old model)
8210/8850=900/1800 Mhz
8890=900/1900Mhz (us model)

7110=900/1800Mhz (I have one:-)
7190=1900Mhz Us model soon to be released not sure if it is dualband

6210=New 900/1800 soon to be released. Has irdamodem and HSCD
6250=Rugged version of 6210 not sure if it has HSCD

Not sure if these new 62** models will be released for the Us market..

Regards

--
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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:19:08 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 25 Apr 2000 01:14:15 -0700, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Please check out Post/LX 2.2g on http://www.dasoft.com -
> this one has lots of interesting stuff..

I have dowloaded it and it works very well. 3 of the things that is
fixed/("fixed") is related to problems that I have posted to support :-)

Very nice to have such an impact on a product :-)

Lot of work has been done on this version..nice :-)

Regards

--
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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:06:39 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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I would be careful before you run either of those network cards, I've just looked at the Xircom manual and it says:

10 Base-T 280mA typical, 300mA max
10 Base-2 85mA typical, 100mA max.

So in theory you can run it provided you are on thin ethernet, but absolutely not on UTP - 150mA is max for the LX.

Don't know about the 3COM card, if you have the manual the information is usually near the back near the FCC compliance statements, or look at their web site.

William D.Ll.Brown
782-2681 / 07768 891330
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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:48:20 +0800
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> The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html
> Let me know please what you think. Thank you in advance for
> the feedback.>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨   http://www.dasoft.com

Thats much better 8-)

Regards.....Liam

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:50:27 -0400
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Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Could someone recommend a PE-styled editor which can handle files of
> unlimited size?

PE can handle very large file sizes.  The limit is something
in the 100's of MB range.  How big of a file do you need to
edit?


Stan

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New one is much better.

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of A
Meshar
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:42 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: D&A Webpage


Ok, So I had a few moments and I tried it :-)

Now it is your turn. I reworked the main page of D&A
Software Website to include no headings and <pre> tags etc.
It is a "plain vanilla" one now. That means that David Ness
would be able to see the page without any problems and
without having to adjust the fonts on his browser.

It is now your turn to tell me what you think.

The original is at http://www.dasoft.com/

The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html

Let me know please what you think. Thank you in advance for
the feedback.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:29:17 -0400
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> I am curious what goes on on these meetings. I live many thousend
> kilometers away so I will not be attending. But what am I missing out
> on?

Socialisation, Bavarian beer, Brezel, Palmtop gadgets, Palmtop
gossip,... :-)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:43:35 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Programmer's toolkits from the golden age of DOS (or Dark age, depending on the
perspective from your Window), tho I don't recall Sidekick reaching its best
until around v1.56.

Throw in Turbo Pascal, the original Xtree (36k) and you'd be in hog heaven.

- Longden





Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM> on 04/25/2000 07:07:57 PM

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>>Also got MS Word v1.00 with runtime copy of Windows and a

that's pretty old, I have shrink wrapped copies of sidekick and deskview
both the first releases, anybody even remember these programs?

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:58:11 -0400
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Could someone recommend a PE-styled editor which can handle files of
> > unlimited size?
>
> PE can handle very large file sizes.  The limit is something
> in the 100's of MB range.  How big of a file do you need to
> edit?
>
> Stan
>

I assume this refers to some 200-related `PE', not IBM's ancient PE (which
I still use daily on my 200). IBM's PE can't handle files that are big,
but it is small enough, powerful enough and useful enough to have handled
virtually all of my programming and text handling work for nearly two
decades now. I don't know who really holds title to the name, but I bought my
copy of IBM's PE some time in the early 1980s, so I'd guess they were `there
first'.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:17:54 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: my LX got married to my iDEN/PCS phone
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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That's a very useful answer to me, Martin, thank you. After I bought my
Nokia 6162 (which I love) a couple of years ago, I frequented the Nokia
newsgroups for long enough to at first be amused and eventually to get bored
by `I can't get my IRDA on my 616x to quite work...' posts, so it is clear
that _many_ people buy the phone assuming (I suppose because of the `window')
that the phone does IRDA. Indeed, they are sometimes quite argumentative on
the subject and some go on believing that IRDA can somehow be `brought to life'
by proper coding. These folks haven't, of course, opened up their phone to
see that there aren't any electronics there.

Assuming the original poster was simply wrong when he said `It Ý6160¨ features
a built-in modem and IrDA connection', it could be due either to mixing up
the model number or, if the situation is parallel to that which we often find
in our `phone stores' due to terrible mis-information on the part of the
personnel in the stores. I do know that I was told---at various times during
my purchasing process---(1) that my phone was already capable of data
transmission; (2) could be adapted to data transmission; and (3) was incapable
of data transmission. (2) proved to be the `real' answer, but in my case
the service obtainable was both too expensive and _way_ too slow to be of
any interest to me.

To add information to your answer, I believe that NCDS does _not_ work with
the American 616x series. There is one piece of software I know of from
Paragon that lets me upload and download names and phone numbers, but it is
one of the poorest pieces of software I have ever purchased, and I find that
(because of its poor design) I never use it.

Some of us are looking forward to the day when our American Cellular facilities
start to approach the capabilities that are an everyday matter for our
European friends.

Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> On 25 Apr 2000 08:32:49 -0700, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:
>
Ýsnip of my earlier¨
>
> You are correct. Here in Europe people still get suprised when they
> find out that their 6110/6150 does not have irda or internal modem.
>
...
>
> The Nokia models that has irda modem capabilitys is:
> 8810=900Mhz (old model)
> 8210/8850=900/1800 Mhz
> 8890=900/1900Mhz (us model)
>
> 7110=900/1800Mhz (I have one:-)
> 7190=1900Mhz Us model soon to be released not sure if it is dualband
>
> 6210=New 900/1800 soon to be released. Has irdamodem and HSCD
> 6250=Rugged version of 6210 not sure if it has HSCD
>
> Not sure if these new 62** models will be released for the Us market..
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
> -Palmtop friendly sig...
>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:20:21 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>> I was recently in the market for a new cell phone, and was all set to buy a
>> "Tri-Mode" Nokia 6160 for this purpose. It features a built-in modem and IrDA
>> connection which I figured would work with my 200LX and WWW/LX. At the last
>> minute I found out that my cell provider here in Canada (Rogers-Cantel/AT&T)
>> doesn't yet support data. Sigh!
>>
> I don't want to speak for the situation in Canada, but I might note the the
> Nokia 6160 `Tri-Mode' does not have IrDA, at least in the configuration as it
> is sold in the US. It _does_ have the little IrDA window, but there are no
> electronics behind this window, much to the _surprise_ of many people who
> assumed that the device did IrDA.
>
Then I guess I was lucky to have settled for the plain 5160 instead! <g>

Actually, looking back at my notes, I see that it was a Nokia 6160i ...perhaps
the "i" signifies that it really does have infrared?

Or possibly I was almost the victim of a salesman who was either
over-enthusiastic or under-informed. I looked for "Nokia 6160i" on the Web and
got no definitive answer. The Canadian Nokia site (www.nokia.ca) doesn't even
mention this model, but then neither does it mention the 5160 which is sitting
in my pocket even as I write this!

Does anyone else have more (or more reliable) information on this?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:32:32 +0200
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              G-nther Eisele <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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Hi,
=20
> It is now your turn to tell me what you think.

I think the new one is better. I think the orginal problem was the size o=
f
the fonts due to the <h6> and <h5> tags which in fact make the fonts very
small on desktop machines, regardless of configuration of the browser. h6
is there to make fonts tiny, actually. As you removed them (nearly)
completely, the page is much better readable now. Thx!

G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:32:39 +0200
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              G-nther Eisele <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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From:         G-nther Eisele <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      different ISO codings in headers / post/lx's behaviour
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Hi,

I'm checking out a new mailer for my desktop called The Bat! which seems =
to
be a hell of a mailer ;-)

I discovered that The Bat! encodes my name (because of the German umlaut =
in
my first name) like this:

=3D?ISO-8859-1?B?R/xudGhlciBFaXNlbGU=3D?=3D <mail address>

post/lx, outlook express, netscape etc. encode my name like this:

=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=3DFCnther_Eisele_?=3D<mail address>

I tested the header which was generated by The Bat! with the following ma=
il
clients, which showed/decoded it correctly: pine (solaris+linux),
communicator 4.7 (linux), outlook 2000, outlook express, netscape 3.04-6
preview (win). The only mailer which doesn't decode is correctly is
post/lx (it shows the original header).

Can someone explain why there are two different ways of encoding and whic=
h
one is the 'more correct' one? I didn't dare to send this mail via Bat! t=
o
the list to avoid considered being a spammer ;-)

Big thanx to you!
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:50:15 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:40:02 -0400 (EDT)

41m54s ago ...
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, David Ness wrote:

> I assume this refers to some 200-related `PE', not IBM's ancient PE =
(which
> I still use daily on my 200).

Yep.  This PE would be the freeware text editor from D&A Software.
Also known as PALEdit.  Available directly from D&A's site or from
SUPER.  Excellent product (and the price is right!)


Later

Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:27:10 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 25 Apr 2000 10:40:54 -0700, Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET> wrote:

I have snipped a lot of blablabla in this reply..

Stephan what are you trying to say? I do not think that this is the
first message from you with this contents..

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:32:19 -0400
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Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Bruce Martin wrote:
>
> Then I guess I was lucky to have settled for the plain 5160 instead! <g>
>
> Actually, looking back at my notes, I see that it was a Nokia 6160i ...perhaps
> the "i" signifies that it really does have infrared?
>
> Or possibly I was almost the victim of a salesman who was either
> over-enthusiastic or under-informed. I looked for "Nokia 6160i" on the Web and
> got no definitive answer. The Canadian Nokia site (www.nokia.ca) doesn't even
> mention this model, but then neither does it mention the 5160 which is sitting
> in my pocket even as I write this!
>
> Does anyone else have more (or more reliable) information on this?
>
> Bruce in Toronto
>

The only information I have on the 6160i (the Nokia newsgroup) indicates that
it does _not_ have infrared either, so whatever the `'i' is, it isn't that.
I suspect it was an overenthusiastic (and underinformed) salesman. Indeed,
cellular salesmen seem to stand only behind `.com promoters' in the
ETK ratio (Enthusiasm-to-knowledge ratio) which appears in many cases to
approach infinity.

As a sidebar it is worth noting that even with a company that is viewed as
technologically agressive, and technology that not only uses instantaneous
transmission (the net), but is _about_ instantaneous transmission (cellular
conversation), the web sites appear to be _way_ behind actual product
delivery. I find this increasingly common on the net, where more and more
one seems to get faster and faster access to information that is older and
older. Indeed, it now only takes me milliseconds to get access to information
that was often last updated in the early to middle 1990s. All-in-all I'd be
happier with the ability to access week old information with a day's delay
than I am to have instant access to year old information.

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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:40:02 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 41m54s ago ...
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, David Ness wrote:
>
> > I assume this refers to some 200-related `PE', not IBM's ancient PE (which
> > I still use daily on my 200).
>
> Yep.  This PE would be the freeware text editor from D&A Software.
> Also known as PALEdit.  Available directly from D&A's site or from
> SUPER.  Excellent product (and the price is right!)
>
> Later
>
> Peniel
> ------------
>

Thank you for the information. Although I venture that the number of (IBM) PE
users is hundreds or thousands of times the number of PALEdit users, perhaps
IBM's PE is `dead' enough to cede the name. However, since IBM's PE _does_
work well on the 200, and certainly holds `prior title' to the name `PE', and
since PALEdit seems to already have a perfectly good name (PALEdit), it might
be sensible to use this name instead of `PE' when talking about it.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:41:33 +0200
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              G-nther Eisele <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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From:         G-nther Eisele <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      Bug in post/lx 2.2g? Umlauts in headers
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Hi,

ÝI hope that the umlauts below are not 'eaten' by the newsserver or the
mailing list server! If so, I made some drawings.¨

as you can see in this mail, post/lx 2.2g strips off the umlaut in my fir=
st
name (G=FCnther -> G-nther).
-------¬          ¬------
umlaut =FC=3Due       no umlaut but a hyphen

This is the case when composing a new mail, replying, forwarding. It is
replaced directly after pressing F2/F3/F3 (not while sending).

The newshplx.tpl (for this mailing list) looks like this:

umlaut =FC=3Due
-------=19
From: G=FCnther Eisele <guenther_eisele@fh-konstanz.de>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:=20

The post.tpl for 'normal' mail looks like this:

umlaut =FC=3Due
-------=19
From: G=FCnther Eisele <mail@guenther-eisele.de>
To: (F6 or ENTER to pick an address)
Subject:=20

What I did for testing was to replace the 2.2g version with the old 2.2f
version, and the old version works correctly, with the same post.cfg and
the same *.tpl! I will reply to this posting with the old version. Manual
replacement of the hyphen seems to work around this probable bug, but thi=
s
is lots of work, as I have to do it in every new mail/reply.

Is anyone with an umlaut in his name discovering the same problems or did=
 I
misconfigure the new version (which I think should fix some 'norwegian
umlaut' problems)?

Bye
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:04:33 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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From NOKIA web site:

Q: Can you tell me which Nokia 6100 series phones operate in
               which mobile network standard?
               A: The Nokia 6110 is for GSM 900 networks, the Nokia 6130 for GSM
               1800 networks, and the Nokia 6190 for GSM 1900 networks. The
               Nokia 6138 is a phone for Asia-Pacific GSM 1800 markets. The
               Nokia 6150 is a GSM 900/1800 dual band phone. The Nokia 6120 is
               a dual mode AMPS/TDMA 800 phone and the Nokia 6160 is a dual
               band and dual mode AMPS/TDMA 800/1900 phone for the American
               market.

It certainly looks as if the 6160 almost uniquely does not have Infrared, perhaps because it needs space for the analogue circuitry.

The answer seems to be that you take your LX to the shop, having loaded WWW/LX and tested it with another phone...and don't buy the phone till you see it work.  Never believe the salesman!

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Subject:      Pal Screen
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Hi all,

        i've developed an application based on the Pal libraries. I can run
the application in a conventional Pc but i only can see the
application running in the upper middle of the screen.

        How it is posible run the application in full screen ??

        I waiting for your answers

        Best Regards, Frank

____________________________________________

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Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
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28040 Madrid, Spain

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:59:21 +0200
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              <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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Hi G=FCnther ;-),

> What I did for testing was to replace the 2.2g version with the old 2.2=
f
> version, and the old version works correctly, with the same post.cfg an=
d
> the same *.tpl! I will reply to this posting with the old version. Manu=
al
> replacement of the hyphen seems to work around this probable bug, but t=
his

...this is what I'm doing now, I'm writing this mail with 2.2f and when I
hit reply my first name was spelled right.

I saw that the post/lx version is not in a header line, well, then this i=
s
no proof of what I'm saying....

Would be glad to see a solution to that!

Bye
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:11:55 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I use vi (Calvin) or vim for most of my editing, but tho these are limited in
the file sizes they can handle, this is rarely a problem with the types of files
I work with.

The one or two times I had to edit something big, I believe I used edlin  (yeah,
and I still know how to use the IBM mainframe line editor ... not THAT's OLD).

I use neither PALEdit nor IBM's Personal Editor, but I rarely get confused by
which one people are talking about here.  I prefer that the more common one get
the abbreviation, at least in the context of this group, if nothing else than to
keep down the bandwidth (or which I'm already guilty of maligning).

Just as in my last aerospace job, we didn't commonly refer to our "bird" as the
"Advanced Tactical Fighter", just because the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms had first dibs on the abbreviation.  Context suffices in most cases,
except when we seem to have much too much time on our hands <g>.

- Longden





David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> on 04/26/2000 08:39:57 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Re: File Size Limits

> > I assume this refers to some 200-related `PE', not IBM's ancient PE (which
> > I still use daily on my 200).
>
> Yep.  This PE would be the freeware text editor from D&A Software.
> Also known as PALEdit.  Available directly from D&A's site or from
> SUPER.  Excellent product (and the price is right!)

Thank you for the information. Although I venture that the number of (IBM) PE
users is hundreds or thousands of times the number of PALEdit users, perhaps
IBM's PE is `dead' enough to cede the name. However, since IBM's PE _does_
work well on the 200, and certainly holds `prior title' to the name `PE', and
since PALEdit seems to already have a perfectly good name (PALEdit), it might
be sensible to use this name instead of `PE' when talking about it.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:00:24 +0100
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Domingo wrote:

>Which do you then prefer for finished documents, Frameworks or
>Grandview + WordPerfect?

If forced to do my final documents on the 200LX, I probably would continue
to use GrandView to do my initial conceptual work and then do the absolute
final polishing in WordPerfect.  But you should realize that my documents
rarely contain tables, formulas, or other forms of numerical expression.
The Framework III/IV and GrandView/WordPerfect alternatives each have their
uses, strengths, and weaknesses.

In fact, I use GrandView primarily and regularly on my 200LX.  For serious
work I export the material in WP5.1 format from GrandView and then import
it into Lotus Notes and have the polishing done by my assistant who is much
more knowledgeable than I am on making documents fit the requirements of
our courts.

>I have been trying every outliner I can get my hands on, and the most
>pleasant to use is Memo on the hplx.   Easy on the eyes, very
>intuitive, I copied down a whole lecture this weekend with it.
>Of course, it is very simple, so it would be neat to start
>outlines on Memo and finish them on Grandview, if there was a smooth way
>to convert the outlines.   I have tried converting to RTF, but it
>seems no better than converting to ASCII (actually ASCII gives better
>convertion results. but much editing in Grandview is still necessary).

Again, I believe that the choice of your favoured software will depend upon
what your intended use will be.  If you want to organize and carry your
entire year's lecture notes on your 200LX, then I would think that
GrandView on a FlashCard would be ideal.  Using subheads and the F5
document command, you could easily organize and have all of your lecture
notes with you wherever you go.

Indeed, for the students on the list, it might be of interest to know that
about five years ago the University of British Columbia Law School
encouraged its students to use GrandView to organize their course work.
Law is very much organized along the tree branch/tree roots metaphor which
fits very nicely into the GrandView style of organization.

Again, at the end of the day, the best software is that which enables you
to do whatever it is that you do with ease and grace.  To accomplish that,
I favour the "let a thousand flowers bloom" approach.  As there are many
ways to live a good life, so there are many "perfect" software solutions.

Larry Fast

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:37:46 -0400
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Subject:      News2/lx
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there a way to limit the number of newsgroup messages downloaded in a =
session?
I'm not necessarily concerned with the size of the message... I just
want to limit the number of messages so that I'm not staying connected
forever while running on batteries.

Thanks,

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:37:50 -0400
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Subject:      56k card modems
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Hello again, forgive me if this has been discussed before... I'm new to
the list.

Are there any 56k pcmcia modems that are compatible with the 200lx?
Presently I'm using a USR 14.4 x-jack modem.  I understand the limits
imposed by excess current consumption while operating on batteries...
so naturally I'd be interested in something with a low amperage draw.

Thanks,

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:50:48 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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From:         Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Marc - wrote:

> Are there any 56k pcmcia modems that are compatible with the 200lx?
> Presently I'm using a USR 14.4 x-jack modem.  I understand the limits
> imposed by excess current consumption while operating on batteries...
> so naturally I'd be interested in something with a low amperage draw.

Visit www.palmtoppaper.com and you'll find exactly what you're looking
for :)

Jeff

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Marc,

Welcome to the list, and check out Thaddeus' website where they offer lots of
palmtop stuff for the 200LX, including a 56k modem:


http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=faxmodem.htm

probably one of just a few that won't suck the life out of the AAs in seconds.

- Longden





Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> on 04/26/2000 09:37:50 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  56k card modems




Hello again, forgive me if this has been discussed before... I'm new to
the list.

Are there any 56k pcmcia modems that are compatible with the 200lx?
Presently I'm using a USR 14.4 x-jack modem.  I understand the limits
imposed by excess current consumption while operating on batteries...
so naturally I'd be interested in something with a low amperage draw.

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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> I use vi (Calvin) or vim for most of my editing, but tho these are limited in
> the file sizes they can handle, this is rarely a problem with the types of files
> I work with.
>
> The one or two times I had to edit something big, I believe I used edlin  (yeah,
> and I still know how to use the IBM mainframe line editor ... not THAT's OLD).
>
> I use neither PALEdit nor IBM's Personal Editor, but I rarely get confused by
> which one people are talking about here.  I prefer that the more common one get
> the abbreviation, at least in the context of this group, if nothing else than to
> keep down the bandwidth (or which I'm already guilty of maligning).
>
> Just as in my last aerospace job, we didn't commonly refer to our "bird" as the
> "Advanced Tactical Fighter", just because the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
> Firearms had first dibs on the abbreviation.  Context suffices in most cases,
> except when we seem to have much too much time on our hands <g>.
>
> - Longden
>

I guess I can well understand why people who use the 200 as their main
communication vehicle might want to save the 5 extra key strokes invloved in
typing `PALEdit' instead of `PE', but then I would think they would prefer
to `go the extra mile' and just refer to it as `P', thus improving efficiency
by another 50%...

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Subject:      Re: 56k card modems
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The 56k pcmcia modem from thaddeus is great.
Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036
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> Hi G|nther ;-),
>
> > What I did for testing was to replace the 2.2g version with the old 2.2
> f


Well, I don't know what's happening but in your first message I saw your
From: line with G-nther (the hyphen in the "u" position) but in the body
of the message the other "u" had an umlaut.

In your second message, the From: line contained no data!!!!  The entire
From: after that word was blank.

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> Is there a way to limit the number of newsgroup messages downloaded in a
> session?
> I'm not necessarily concerned with the size of the message... I just
> want to limit the number of messages so that I'm not staying connected
> forever while running on batteries.

If you edit that group, you can place a -xxxx as the high message number
and it will download the newest (last) xxxx messages, say, -50 or -100
or -999

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:29:05 -0400
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On 26 Apr 2000 07:19:05 -0700, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

> That's a very useful answer to me, Martin, thank you.

Thanks..:-) I try to be updated on the ever changing handheld/cellular
world. It is not easy. The big companys launch phones all the time..

> After I bought my
> Nokia 6162 (which I love) a couple of years ago, I frequented the Nokia
> newsgroups for long enough to at first be amused and eventually to get bored
> by `I can't get my IRDA on my 616x to quite work...' posts, so it is clear
> that _many_ people buy the phone assuming (I suppose because of the `window')
> that the phone does IRDA. Indeed, they are sometimes quite argumentative on
> the subject and some go on believing that IRDA can somehow be `brought to life'
> by proper coding. These folks haven't, of course, opened up their phone to
> see that there aren't any electronics there.

Yes this is my experience with alt.cellular.nokia too. I do some
filtering now and trash most of the 61** messages. There were/are lots
of messages about "How to make irda work on 616*" and "Does the
61** contain a full blown modem?"

I think the 61** series was great phones, but Nokia should have
implemented a real modem like 8810/7110 and not a software modem
thingy.. A lot of customers that either fooled themself or got fooled
by the store about the ir on their new phone..

> To add information to your answer, I believe that NCDS does _not_ work with
> the American 616x series. There is one piece of software I know of from
> Paragon that lets me upload and download names and phone numbers, but it is
> one of the poorest pieces of software I have ever purchased, and I find that
> (because of its poor design) I never use it.

Logomanger at

http://www.logomanager.co.uk

should work on all 61** models( I now they work on 6110/6150). It works
for phonebook and logos and things like that. If you want to use it as
modem then you have to use NCDS. If you say that NCDS does not work for
phonebookmanagement or data then you are probably correct. My info
about the 6160 is from the alt.cellular.nokia group and not really of
any interest for me :-)

> Some of us are looking forward to the day when our American Cellular facilities
> start to approach the capabilities that are an everyday matter for our
> European friends.

:-) Yes when it comes to gsm/digital cellular phones Europe are the
place to be at the moment. I must say that I laugh when I see the
phones that are used in tv series and movies from the Us. When they
pull up there Motorola Flip phones with large battery from their
shoulder holster I laugh :-)). Keannu Reeves in "Matrix" used a
modified Nokia 8110 and the market over there went ballistic.

The spring loaded flip was cool(I got that on my 7110), but the phone
was really old. I had one for many years. The phones that are pushed
now in the US is the 61** series(?). I know that one cellular provider
has a _huge_ contract with Nokia. They will soon launch the Nokia 7190
which works on 1900Mhz. The spring loader has been removed to be sure
that the US people do not injure themself :-))

But as many has told me the Us market is huge and it is not easy to
"push" a standard over there. The cellular phone market is pretty "new"
over here. We have had N(ordic)M(obile)T(?) for _many_ years, but it
was analog and is now faded out and gsm 900/1800 is the standard over
here. Next year we will have Gprs which brings us higher bandwidth and
packet style transmission of data..

The future is surely handheld. I hope the hard core Hp200lx users will
still stay with the Hplx to help the community to adapt to the fast
changing handheld world. There are lot of things to look forward too:
Bluetooth and Gprs..

I wrote:

> > You are correct. Here in Europe people still get suprised when they
> > find out that their 6110/6150 does not have irda or internal modem.

Note: The 6110/6150 has ir which can be used for data true a
softwaremodem solution called Nokia Cellular DataSuite or used with
cable with a Tdk Global Puls(Plus?) pcmcia card on a CE/Laptops..

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:47:04 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Bug in post/lx 2.2g? Umlauts in headers
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Hi,

> > Hi G|nther ;-),

Hm, it seems that after one reply the umlaut is 'eaten' even in the body.

> Well, I don't know what's happening but in your first message I saw you=
r
> From: line with G-nther (the hyphen in the "u" position) but in the bod=
y
> of the message the other "u" had an umlaut.

Yes, the umlauts in the body work correctly, it's just the umlaut in the
from header which should be iso coded.
=20
> In your second message, the From: line contained no data!!!!  The entir=
e
> From: after that word was blank.

???? This is definitely strange. Because without a proper from: the list
server should have rejected my mail. Can you please tell me which mail yo=
u
exactly mean (subject, time?)

I have posted 4 messages today (this is the fifth), and I have them all=20
on my 200lx, downloaded from news.hplx.net, not directly received by the
list), and every mail has a from header. It's just strange that the
correct from header (G=FCnther....) is shown in post/lx like this

G=FCnther Eisele          <guenther_eisele@fh-konstanz.de> in the list vi=
ew.

Note the lots of blanks between the name and the address. The three mails
with the G-nther.... header (sent by post/lx 2.2g) is shown correctly. Bu=
t
this is just a little viewing bug, I'm used to it.

Strange. Maybe others see different things....

Thanks for your reply!
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:30:22 +0200
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And Jeff also was able to connect with this modem 49xxx bps DCE on a
hp200lx, as he did write in a previous message. I never was able to get
even close to that DCE speed.

I bought a low power 56K modem in New York last week. The utmost DCE
speed I achieved was 46xxx bps. To attglobal.net it always connects
45.667 bps. This modem plugs in all day and allows me every couple of
minutes an online session and downloads. The batteries, Sanyo 1500 mA
NiMH, are replaced every day and recharged externally.

This modem acts like a modem and *not* like a stove.

BTW, I never had that much fun, browsing through the web, as I do have
now while being on travel. At home I am connected to a network using an
ACCTON network card.

Kind regards

Helmuth


> > Are there any 56k pcmcia modems that are compatible with the 200lx?
> > Presently I'm using a USR 14.4 x-jack modem.  I understand the limits
> > imposed by excess current consumption while operating on batteries...
> > so naturally I'd be interested in something with a low amperage draw.
>
> Visit www.palmtoppaper.com and you'll find exactly what you're looking
> for :)
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
>              --   B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com     --
>              - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! -
>              --        http://www.notachance.com          --
>
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Subject:      Re: Networking
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Fernando,

> I can read that not all network PCMCIA can run with
> 200lx (It's possible for memory limitation???) but
> in this moment I've avalaible:

Try ACCTON network card, I use it since more than a year. Also have
a look at http://www.hplx.net


Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:48:22 -0400
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The Databook ThincardDRIVE (TMC 200) is capable of working with the early
PCMCIA Type I  specification memory cards - linear flash and SRAM cards
only.  No modems, ATA flash or LAN adapters, no multifunction cards, no SCSI
adapters - that came with the later specifications.

It was useful when I had my 95LX, as I could write text files to both a 1 MB
and a 10 MB linear flash card I had for VR to read.  It also served to read
and write the SRAM cards I had for it.

The software supplied by Databook for this unit is for DOS only and there is
no support for it under Windows 9x operating systems.  I still have a
complete unit, with manuals, in the box at my house, gathering dust.

Alan

>From: David M Peterson Ýmailto:dmp24@JUNO.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 5:56 PM
>
>I have a Databook unit that I have not been able to get working. This
>unit is not listed on the web page. The controller card is an ISA 8-bit
>card labelled Databook TMC-200-99 Rev G. The board has a bank of 8 dip
>switches and 3 jumpers. The interface to the card has a thin slot. The
>front of the unit says 'ThincardDRIVE'. The front has busy, WP, batt
>led's. The card in the reader says DATABOOK INC. TMD-100-03 Rev. D.  The
>assembly was pulled from a HP 486 computer about two years ago.
>
>Any information would be appreciated. I may even sell it cheap.

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Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:
> Thats much better 8-)

Thanks.

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John Wittkamper wrote:
> New one is much better.

Thanks for feedback.

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Sally, thanks for the feedback on the Webpage. So far, no
negatives about it, so I'll switch.

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Marc - wrote:
> Is there a way to limit the number of newsgroup messages downloaded in a session?
> I'm not necessarily concerned with the size of the message... I just
> want to limit the number of messages so that I'm not staying connected
> forever while running on batteries.

You can limit the number of messages coming down from the
newsgroups in several ways:

- You can download headers only, then select what you really want to see,

- You can limit the size of messages being downloaded and
reject anything over x lines.

- You can filter out messages and refuse messages with
certain keywords in the subject.

- you can tell News/LX to d/l only the last x messages in
the the archive.

To seem more info, press CTRL-F1 in the main Post/LX menu.
This gives you a topic list for the help. Then search on
"limit" (omit the quotes.) You should see an item called
Managing Newsgroup Messages or similar...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Hello,

when LXMTA downloads a series of news articles and encounters
the minimum free space condition set with the lxmta.minfree
parameter, it continues to attempt to download all articles
that have not yet been downlaoded. Once this condition has
been met, it does not seem to challenge the lxmta.maxmsgs
any longer.

For example, I have set lxmta.minfree=300000 and
lxmta.maxmsgs=50. If hundred or more articles are waiting
to be downloaded, the first parameter hits and LXMTA enlessly
attempts to download all others without success.

If my observations are correct, I recommend to update LXMTA
in a way that it stops the downlaod after both conditions
are met.

Admittedly, it might be possible that one or the other smaller
article might fit in, but this is only a small benefit,
compared against the longer download time.

Regards
Norbert

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Hello,

I am looking for a nice idea how I can automatically exchange
a few known hex bytes in a file against some others.

The problem: I often receive mail with LXMTA that contains
some country-specific characters, which are not properly
displayed by my newsreader (PNR, or cc:Mail through ccLXPOP).

The misdisplayed characters are hex values between 80 and FF,
and sometimes they arive as three-byte strings. Both conditions
makes my mail ugly to read.

My idea is to search for and replace these bytes and strings
in question in file incoming.mai or incoming.nws before these
files are touched by the news reader. All bytes and strings
and their replacements are known.

I am looking for a nice idea now I can solve this problem
without manual intervention, so that I can include this
step in my dialer batch file.

- Can it be done through DOS piping?
- Any small program that I do not know?
- EDLIN and redirection?

It should not necessarily double the space of either file
to be processed, if possible.

Any ideas and hints are welcome.

Thank you
Norbert


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Thank-you for everyones input on this!!

All is well now.

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

> Marc - wrote:
> > Is there a way to limit the number of newsgroup messages downloaded =
in a session?
> > I'm not necessarily concerned with the size of the message... I just
> > want to limit the number of messages so that I'm not staying connected
> > forever while running on batteries.
>
> You can limit the number of messages coming down from the
> newsgroups in several ways:
>
> - You can download headers only, then select what you really want to =
see,
>
> - You can limit the size of messages being downloaded and
> reject anything over x lines.
>
> - You can filter out messages and refuse messages with
> certain keywords in the subject.
>
> - you can tell News/LX to d/l only the last x messages in
> the the archive.
>
> To seem more info, press CTRL-F1 in the main Post/LX menu.
> This gives you a topic list for the help. Then search on
> "limit" (omit the quotes.) You should see an item called
> Managing Newsgroup Messages or similar...
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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I've checked out the modem @ www.palmtoppaper.com, and have seen Jeff's
comments... looks good (btw... Jeff, are you the same Jeff I used to
see sending UI packets via R0MIR?) :O)

A couple more questions:

1) What is the brand/model off the modem listed on that site?  There are
no pictures or specs regarding the modem... basically only a price.

2) For those of you using this modem... what kind of battery life do
you get as compared to using the older 14.4 pcmcia modems?  The website
mentions that these modems have the lowest current consumption they'd
seen, but thats a bit vague.

Incidently... while playing around with my USR 56k pcmcia modem, I get
connection rates anywhere from 41 - 44kbps... though I have no way of
knowing what my actual throughput is.  It is definitely 2 - 3 times
faster.

Thanks again,

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

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Has anybody checked out the Mapopolis maps for the Palm Pilot?
   http://www.mapopolis.com/

Alot of HP Palmtoppers could get some use out of a version for the
LX.  It uses the Palm Pilot PDB database format.  I haven't tried it,
since I don't have a Palm Pilot, but if the Mapopolis PDB files are
like normal Palm Pilot PDB databases, then perhaps it wouldn't be too
difficult to use PRC2TXT
(http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/prc2txt.zip) to convert it to
text, then render it graphically.

--Ted

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:54:17 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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David Ness wrote:
> Thank you for the information. Although I venture that the number of (IBM) PE
> users is hundreds or thousands of times the number of PALEdit users, perhaps
> IBM's PE is `dead' enough to cede the name. However, since IBM's PE _does_
> work well on the 200, and certainly holds `prior title' to the name `PE', and
> since PALEdit seems to already have a perfectly good name (PALEdit), it might
> be sensible to use this name instead of `PE' when talking about it.

I suspect you're the only user of the (old) IBM PE editor on this list
so you'd be the only one confused.  Am I wrong? ..do others here use PE?
I used the IBM PE editor for a while back when it was new; I think that
was in the DOS 2.0 days when the XT was still a big deal.  I don't think
I used it for more than a year or two before moving on something else.

For most (simple) edits I use the Tiny editor T.EXE (only 10k).  For
bigger jobs I use Xedit (IBM VM/CMS mainframe) or its pc clone Kedit.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:54:21 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Longden Loo wrote:
> The one or two times I had to edit something big, I believe I used edlin

Big?  Edlin?  I thought it was limited to files of 65k or less?

Cheers... Russ     (Yep, I've still got copy of Edlin "just in case")

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:54:22 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Marc - wrote:
> Is there a way to limit the number of newsgroup messages downloaded in a
> session?
> I'm not necessarily concerned with the size of the message... I just
> want to limit the number of messages so that I'm not staying connected
> forever while running on batteries.

Download Headers only which goes pretty fast.  Offline, after selecting
which ones look worth reading you can go back online to download a
selected few.

I follow REC.GUNS which has about 500-1000 posts/week using my 200LX.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:18:43 -0400
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Could easily be. PE maintains an active user community amongst a bunch of
my old MIT colleagues, and there are `updated versions' of it that appear
from Italy and other far climes. But it may well be that I am the only
user who ever reads this list. And if people continue to use `PE' to
refer to `PALEdit' it will hardly lead me far astray.

I have used countless other editors, of course, from Teco to EMacs, but
somehow I always end up returning to PE because of its `block' functions.
I use PE on the LX because it still survives (without any real change) the
move from XT/Dos 1.1 -> Win98, NT4.0 and Win2K, and works as well on my
384Mb/30Gb machine and my 500Mhz portable as it does on my 2Mb 200lx. Thus I
never have to think about how to do something wherever I am or whatever I am
doing (data entry, memo writing, composing code). The _best_ thing for
me about the 200Lx is that it allows me the luxury to carry old code and
old habits in my pocket, and doesn't require much in the way of stuff that
only works on the 200...

Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> I suspect you're the only user of the (old) IBM PE editor on this list
> so you'd be the only one confused.  Am I wrong? ..do others here use PE?
> I used the IBM PE editor for a while back when it was new; I think that
> was in the DOS 2.0 days when the XT was still a big deal.  I don't think
> I used it for more than a year or two before moving on something else.
>
> For most (simple) edits I use the Tiny editor T.EXE (only 10k).  For
> bigger jobs I use Xedit (IBM VM/CMS mainframe) or its pc clone Kedit.
>
> cheers... Russ
>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:03:18 -0500
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Marc - wrote:

> see sending UI packets via R0MIR?) :O)

Guilt as charged! What's your call, have we worked each other? Also see:

http://www.tigertronics.com/sheriff.htm

for a bit more about my Mir set-up. Viva Mir!

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<<<<Thank you for the information. Although I venture that the
number of (IBM) PE
users is hundreds or thousands of times the number of PALEdit users,
perhaps
IBM's PE is `dead' enough to cede the name. However, since IBM's PE
_does_
work well on the 200, and certainly holds `prior title' to the name
`PE', and
since PALEdit seems to already have a perfectly good name (PALEdit),
it might
be sensible to use this name instead of `PE' when talking about
it.>>>>

WordPerfect also had an editor called PE, which, I think, stood for
Programmer's Editor.

I'll bet a little research would turn up more editors named PE.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:11:24 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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How much do the HP 95LX run these days?

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:21:07 -0400
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              GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
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I had been waiting for someone to mention MaxThink which is still
available but seems no body else uses it :-)

GaryS

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:22:29 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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You're right ... it's a .com executable and therefore constrained by memory ...
same as this po' ol' user <g>.

- Longden





Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> on 04/26/2000 04:54:21 PM

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Longden Loo wrote:
> The one or two times I had to edit something big, I believe I used edlin

Big?  Edlin?  I thought it was limited to files of 65k or less?

Cheers... Russ     (Yep, I've still got copy of Edlin "just in case")

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Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:52:28 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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>>The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html>>


File Not Found

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:12:14 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to limit the number of newsgroup messages downloaded in a
> > session?
> > I'm not necessarily concerned with the size of the message... I just
> > want to limit the number of messages so that I'm not staying connected
> > forever while running on batteries.
>
> If you edit that group, you can place a -xxxx as the high message number
> and it will download the newest (last) xxxx messages, say, -50 or -100
> or -999

To add : If you want to have this the next time again you have to place
a -xxxx as high message number again as it will be overwritten.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:12:11 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Longden,

> Just as in my last aerospace job, we didn't commonly refer to our "bird" as the
> "Advanced Tactical Fighter", just because the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
> Firearms had first dibs on the abbreviation.  Context suffices in most cases,
> except when we seem to have much too much time on our hands <g>.

In my students days I had to learn the basic formulas and equations of
Physics, Mechanics and the like. The Professor of Physics used the
letter "s" for "space" in his formulas. At the same time I was taking
Mechanics and the Prof there use the letter "e" for space.

Well I complained as they twisted my brain with other stuff as well.
The Mechanics Prof told me : "no matter how you call your child - the
only important thing is that it comes when you call" (G).

I will use PE and PalEdit in place of PALEdit - depending on my mood
:-)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Testing

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:52:37 -0400
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> =20
> Hi Hans Peter
>=20
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:22:31 -0500, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSE=
RVE.COM> wrote:
>=20
> > If in the Ýmybeloved¨ mailbox section of POST.CFG you have a setting =
like:
> >=20
> > SMTP=3Dmy.beloved.smtp
> >=20
> > add a line such as
> >=20
> > Special=3DCIS
> >=20
> > and one line like
> >=20
> > SpecialSMTP=3Dsmtp.compuserve.com
>=20
> Can I also give more than one WWW setup name at the "Special" line?=20

Yes you can :

Special=3Dnetway netway_gsm
SpecialSMTP=3Dsmtp.netway.at

They have to be related to the same ISP so that you have only one
SpecialSMTP.

> I have every setup for every ISP in WWW/LX twice: one for an PCMCIA-Mod=
em
> and one for an external modem. So I had to let Post/LX ust a special
> SMTP for _2_ WWW setups.

This is not necessary. I strongly recommend to have just_one_generic
setup per ISP in WWW.CFG. The differentiation is done in ÝWWW¨ section
of POST.CFG

ÝWWW¨
ISP_A1NetPlus=3DA1Net
ISP_&CompuServe_Salzburg=3DCIS
ISP_&Netway=3DNetway
&Standard_Setup=3DPrefix=3D- ModemInit=3DAT&FM1 Port=3D2
&Office_Setup=3DPrefix=3D0 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M1 Port=3D2
&Hotel_Setup=3DPrefix=3D9 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M1 Port=3D2
No_Prefix=3DPrefix=3D-
GSM_A1Net=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D0043664684000 A1Net
GSM_CIS=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D00436624678 CIS
GSM_Netway=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D004321701 Netway
A1-Stuttgart=3DA1Net Dial=3D07219662480
A1-Paris=3DA1Net Dial=3D0153001540
A1-Schweiz=3DA1Net Dial=3D0840840888
CIS-&Villach=3DCIS Dial=3D0718915051
CIS-&Wien/Salzburg=3DCIS Dial=3D0718915161
CIS-&Paris=3DCIS Dial=3D0141880840
CIS-&D=FCsseldorf=3DCIS Dial=3D02114792424

=20
> And: Can I set up Post/LX to not use the PopFirst setting when using
> this "special" WWW setup?

I don't think so - but I don't know exactly either.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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>
> >>The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html>>
>
> File Not Found

Here file not found either :-(

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 02:48:53 -0400
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See my reply to Larry - you came too late to look at it,
and it was already changed to index.html....

Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> >
> > >>The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html>>
> >
> > File Not Found
>
> Here file not found either :-(
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
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              Jack Schudel <schudel@UFL.EDU>
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They have replace the old D&A home page with the new (and better) one.




-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: D&A Webpage


>>
>> >>The reworked one is at http://www.dasoft.com/index1.html>>
>>
>> File Not Found
>
>Here file not found either :-(
>
>HP Staber/Salzburg
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:51:21 +0200
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You will find all you need at http://rwhitby.hplx.net/lxmnc/index.html

Another interesting site with lots of good info on networking is
http://www.helmig.com

I'm using an Accton 2216-1. Once you are at it, and if things do not work,
feel free to ask

Etienne
----------
> From: Fernando Ruiz <fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Networking
> Date: mercredi 26 avril 2000 1:27
>
> Hi!:
>
> after setup my 200 to work with modem and access
> internet and e-mail via ISP (PPP), now I'm interesting
> to setup the 200 to work on my ethernet network.
>
> I'm new in this field and I'm greateful you if you
> could deliver some guidelines or links or informotion ...
> about how to set up a PCMCIA network card.
>
> I can read that not all network PCMCIA can run with
> 200lx (It's possible for memory limitation???) but
> in this moment I've avalaible:
>
> - Xircom Credit Card Ethernet IIps
> - 3COM 10/100 Fast Ethernet - 3CXFE575BT
>
> It's possible run some of this PCMCIA cards ????
>
> Thank you for all your help ...
>
> Best reg's
>
> Fernando Ruiz
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:48:15 +0800
Reply-To:     LEONG FOO TEK <leongft@yeos.com.my>
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From:         LEONG FOO TEK <leongft@YEOS.COM.MY>
Subject:      Re: Pal Screen
Comments: To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
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I am not sure if it works on your application but you can try INT5fh by Harry
Konstas. This freeware program can be downloaded from SUPER site
(www.palmtop.net). The screen is much larger but the graphics is not as nice as
CGAGRAPH.

Regards,
Leong FT

____________________Reply Separator____________________
Subject:    Pal Screen
Author: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
Date:       4/27/00 1:58 AM

Hi all,

        i've developed an application based on the Pal libraries. I can run
the application in a conventional Pc but i only can see the
application running in the upper middle of the screen.

        How it is posible run the application in full screen ??

        I waiting for your answers

        Best Regards, Frank

____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:17:02 +0200
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Hi,
 =20
> > In your second message, the From: line contained no data!!!!  The ent=
ire
> > From: after that word was blank.
>=20
> ???? This is definitely strange. Because without a proper from: the lis=
t
> server should have rejected my mail. Can you please tell me which mail =
you

Thanks to Fred I figured out that this is just a viewing problem. As thes=
e
unnecessary blanks between my (iso coded) name and the mail address are
added (not by post/lx, it works with normal mailboxes) the from: line
simply gets too long to be displayed after the from: line. As post/lx jus=
t
displays one header line each (you can see this with the To: line when th=
ere
are lots of recipients in it) the 'second line' (containing name and
address) is there but not display.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:05:19 +0100
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              Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK>
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I am using the thad' modem with no problems. I can use it serveral times a
day with no problems on a charge. I can't vouch for exact current drain or
connect speeds though as I don't have the tools to check for that stuff. I
am using it the the UK by the way with no problems...


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Ordina UK Ltd
(+44)161 832 9506
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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:16:55 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:23 -0400 (EDT), A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> wrote:

Hi Avi,

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:41:23 -0400 (EDT), A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> wrote:

> 1 SpecialSMTP only per box.

Okay.

> > And: Can I set up Post/LX to not use the PopFirst setting when using
> > this "special" WWW setup?
>
> Why care? Makes no difference to the ISP Servers. I am
> thinking about recommending ot make it the default mode,
> maybe the only mode.

If I connect via cell phone I want to save every second, because of
high connection costs. So it would be good to avoid the connection with
the POP server if I only have to send one or two emails. At 9600 baud
the connection to the POP server takes some seconds, sometimes even up
to 10 or 20 seconds, if the POP server I use is very busy.
But with another SMTP server that I want to use if I do not connect via cell
phone I have to set the POPFirst setting.
Hence my desires. :-)
I hope I described it good enough - it's a little bit complicated,
because of my quite umcommon setup: university as ISP and email
provider over a cell phone connection and other call-by-call-ISPs and
GMX as email provider when connected over modem line.
And GMX needs POPFirst.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:59:40 +0000
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From:         "Francisco I. Campoy" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
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Thanks for your answers Leong ( & Owen),

Leong wrote,
> I am not sure if it works on your application but you can try INT5fh by Harry
> Konstas. This freeware program can be downloaded from SUPER site
> (www.palmtop.net). The screen is much larger but the graphics is not as nice as
> CGAGRAPH.

Yes, the graphics have not the same resolution as CGAGRAPH (included
the CGA Mode). Why ??

Best Regards, Fran

____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:16:15 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE  asked for a program that

>>can automatically exchange a few known hex bytes in a file against some
others.

Try XLATE on the www.palmtop.net site. It may be what you're looking for.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:54:15 -0400
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              dd diaz <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
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How about you telling us about it?  I never heard of it.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 27, 2000 2:21:07 AM GMT
Subject: Outliners


I had been waiting for someone to mention MaxThink which is
still
available but seems no body else uses it :-)

GaryS

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:19:04 -0500
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@MINDSPRING.COM>
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> Yes, the graphics have not the same resolution as CGAGRAPH (included
> the CGA Mode). Why ??
>
> Best Regards, Fran
>
> Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco

I think it's because of the resolution. The palmtop is 640x200 and VGA is
640x480. PALRUN just
changes the aspect ratio to accommodate 280 more vertical pixels. Remember,
PAL programs are
running in the palmtop's graphics mode (as opposed to text mode).
Best Regards,
Owen

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:08:45 -0500
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<<<Big?  Edlin?  I thought it was limited to files of 65k or
less?>>>

Edlin didn't have a file size limit in the days when it was popular.
It could read/modify any file you could fit on any hard drive in
those days.  I suspect that with the bigger hard drives today a
limit will be found but I'm pretty sure I've used it to edit
multi-meg files.

We used to get a large file in and I had to change a byte in the
header before we could use it.  Until I changed our program to
handle it as it came, I used Edlin to change that byte.  I don't
remember how big that file was but it seems like it was 5 or 10 meg.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:08:44 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> I suspect you're the only user of the (old) IBM PE editor on this list
> so you'd be the only one confused.  Am I wrong? ..do others here use PE?
>
(Raises hand sheepishly) Well, I used to use it a lot, and still do
occasionally, when I want to modify a batch file on my antique Toshiba laptop.

> For most (simple) edits I use the Tiny editor T.EXE (only 10k).  For
> bigger jobs I use Xedit (IBM VM/CMS mainframe) or its pc clone Kedit.
>
For simple edits on my 200LX, I use a *different* Tiny Editor named TED.COM -
only 3.9k! As I recall, it's one of the many PC Tools published in PC Magazine
way back when. For "heavy lifting" I use Word 5.5 or sometimes WP 5.1
(especially useful when I need compatibility with documentsreceived from other
folks). For everything in between, the built-in Memo works just fine.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:13:46 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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<<<<You're right ... it's a .com executable and therefore
constrained by memory ...
same as this po' ol' user <g>.>>>>

Actually the limit in com files is the filesize of the program
itself.  That's limited to 64k.  But when the program is running it
can use all available memory in the computer and read files as large
as Dos can support.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:34:32 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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After getting Russell's note, I tried it on a 4000 line txt report (250k bytes)
and while it appeared to load the file, it wasn't able to list anything past
line 762.

Now, I happen to have an MS-DOS 5.0 Reference Guide, for just these occasions
<g> .... and it reads for EDLIN:

"When you start Edlin, it reads as many lines as possible from your disk file
into memory.  If the size of your file exceeds available memory, you must edit
your file in stages."

The point in the doc was that you could edit big files, but not all at once...
you had to use a combination of Write and Append commands to do it in pieces.

- Longden






Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> on 04/27/2000 08:08:45 AM

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<<<Big?  Edlin?  I thought it was limited to files of 65k or
less?>>>

Edlin didn't have a file size limit in the days when it was popular.
It could read/modify any file you could fit on any hard drive in
those days.  I suspect that with the bigger hard drives today a
limit will be found but I'm pretty sure I've used it to edit
multi-meg files.

We used to get a large file in and I had to change a byte in the
header before we could use it.  Until I changed our program to
handle it as it came, I used Edlin to change that byte.  I don't
remember how big that file was but it seems like it was 5 or 10 meg.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:42:00 -0500
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              "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM>
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Subject:      WINCE: (eBay) HP 620LX 32MB Color Palmtop PC - NO RESERVE!
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Only a few hours left to bid with no reserve price!

Mint condition handheld pc.  Ships in original retail box and includes all
hardware, manuals and CD's.

For more info:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=314166371

Thank you,
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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:20:12 -0400
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> Longden Loo wrote:
> > The one or two times I had to edit something big, I believe
> > I used edlin

> Big?  Edlin?  I thought it was limited to files of 65k or less?

Au contraire! I don't know the true limit, but you can edit much
larger files than 64K--I've done it.   The trick is you have to
do it in 64K chunks: after each chunk you write it out and then
load the next one.  (That's the Append command.)

-George

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:15:07 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Com files and memory
Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>

Hi Barry; All,

re: Barry's:

<<..limit in com files...64k.  But when the program is running it can use
all available memory in the computer and read files as large as Dos can
support.>>

When we're talking about DOS file size limitations is there a correlation
between the HDD size DOS can support and the file size it can address?

I mean if it can only partition and see (what is it 1.2 GB partitions? I
forget) and has the ability to address a partition of a certain size,
doesn't that mean it can't get "ahold of" (address) a file any bigger than
it could partition?

Aside from the fact that, if it can't make a 10 GB Partition, there's no
place to put a 10 GB file....<grin> .... I suppose there're network "drives;
but, if someone is using their LX to edit 10 GB files on a network, they
need to do an article for Thaddeus!

--tim

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With the discussion regarding 56K Modems, I would also like to point out that
the 56K modem that Thaddeus sells works with Linux, if you have an interest in
trying out that alternative to Windows. I had another 56K PCMCIA modem (IBM
label, actually remarked 3com), but it would not work as it is a "winmodem".
Linux 2.2.13 registers the Thadeus Modem right away and I was able to establish
a PPP connection with my server without any difficulty.

And learning linux has been interesting. I am trying out Sun's Star Office 5.1
right now and I think that it is a remarkably good product, considering they
aren't charging you anything for it. I am not convinced that it is a
replacement for MS Office, but I think that perhaps the main complaint against
it will be that it doesn't have the market penetration that Office has.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:47:14 -0400
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I appreciate all the input regarding the "Thaddeus Modem".  I'd still
though, like to find out more about it before I buy one.

Will someone please relay me the make and model number of it?

Thanks,

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

> With the discussion regarding 56K Modems, I would also like to point =
out that
> the 56K modem that Thaddeus sells works with Linux, if you have an =
interest in
> trying out that alternative to Windows. I had another 56K PCMCIA modem =
(IBM
> label, actually remarked 3com), but it would not work as it is a =
"winmodem".
> Linux 2.2.13 registers the Thadeus Modem right away and I was able to =
establish
> a PPP connection with my server without any difficulty.
>
> And learning linux has been interesting. I am trying out Sun's Star =
Office 5.1
> right now and I think that it is a remarkably good product, considering =
they
> aren't charging you anything for it. I am not convinced that it is a
> replacement for MS Office, but I think that perhaps the main complaint =
against
> it will be that it doesn't have the market penetration that Office has.
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:48:59 -0700
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I haven't had time to read this list in quite a while due to lack of time
(and lack of a palmtop at the moment).  I got seven or eight requests for my
200LX font i810, and didn't respond to most of them.  However, a newer
version, i812, is free for download from hplx.net.  Enjoy.

http://www.hplx.net/downloads.html

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
http://peace.hplx.net/

Calculus and calculators: two very important, powerful mathematical concepts
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Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:38:42 -0500 (EST)

Can anyone comment on the use of a NOKIA 7110 & HPLX?

Thanks...AJKind

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" <RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil>
To: "'HPLX Mailing List'" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "'Barry'"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: Com files and memory


> Hi Barry; All,
>
> re: Barry's:
>
> <<..limit in com files...64k.  But when the program is running it
can use
> all available memory in the computer and read files as large as
Dos can
> support.>>
>
> When we're talking about DOS file size limitations is there a
correlation
> between the HDD size DOS can support and the file size it can
address?

I'm not sure if DOS imposes file size limitations or not.  The drive
size limitations are imposed by the BIOS, not by DOS.

The FAT table, which is a DOS construct, should be able to handle a
file up to the size of the drive, after deducting a little for the
directory and the FAT table itself, as well as a little more that
DOS and BIOS uses or renders unusable.  If there's a limit imposed
by DOS it's either an artificial limit imposed for some reason I'm
not aware of, or a limit based on the filesize carried in the
directory entry.  I believe there are 32 bits for the file size in
the directory, which should allow for 4.2 gig files unless it's a
signed number.

> I mean if it can only partition and see (what is it 1.2 GB
partitions? I
> forget) and has the ability to address a partition of a certain
size,
> doesn't that mean it can't get "ahold of" (address) a file any
bigger than
> it could partition?
>
> Aside from the fact that, if it can't make a 10 GB Partition,
there's no
> place to put a 10 GB file....<grin> .... I suppose there're
network "drives;
> but, if someone is using their LX to edit 10 GB files on a
network, they
> need to do an article for Thaddeus!

That person doesn't have room on his LX to write an article for
Thaddeus. :)

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:54:09 -0400
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Daniel,

> > > And: Can I set up Post/LX to not use the PopFirst setting when using
> > > this "special" WWW setup?
> >
> > Why care? Makes no difference to the ISP Servers. I am
> > thinking about recommending ot make it the default mode,
> > maybe the only mode.
>
> If I connect via cell phone I want to save every second, because of
> high connection costs. So it would be good to avoid the connection with
> the POP server if I only have to send one or two emails.

Just toggle off the download arrow of your mailbox.

If you have several mailboxes and newsgroups which you do not want to
visit in certain situations then create "sets" - look in the doc
files, eg in POSTHELP.I Subject: Displaying A Selection of Boxes
:-)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:55:00 -0400
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Albert Kind wrote:
>
> Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:38:42 -0500 (EST)
>
> Can anyone comment on the use of a NOKIA 7110 & HPLX?
>
> Thanks...AJKind
>
> *
> * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
>

I don't have any useful personal information for you, but you might be
interested in a snip I filed from one of the Nokia newsgroups. I, of course,
can't testify to the information presented, but it may help you...

ÝI've lost the name of the original author, but from the context it is
clear that she/he is European and has access to better phone services than
most of our American purveyors provide...¨

> The 7110 requires a different cable to be able to use AT commands over a
> serial port, it is called a DLR-3.  It will work with a DAU-9P, but has
> different ways of uploading ringtones, logo's etc.
>
> Other than that, I took the plunge and bought one, with a view to replacing
> my Psion 5mx with a 7110, and a Sony Vaio C1XD.  The calendering on a 7110
> is quite advanced, and I would prefer to take the phone everywhere instead
> of a psion. The only minus points I have is that the Vibration alert makes
> me jump out of my skin, the battery life seems quite short, and it will take
> a little while to get a decent firmware version, oh, and the fact that the
> phone will not be upgradeable to WAP 1.2.
>
> The games are great, (I find the tennis a bit hard), and the WAP is actually
> useful over here in Ireland!!
>
> One thing that I would like to get though, is documentation on the full
> range of AT commands for the phone, as I would love to be able to write an
> import / export module for evolution.

Hope that helps...

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:16:55 -0400
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Jack,

Jack Schudel wrote:
> They have replace the old D&A home page with the new (and better) one.

Yes. Thanks for the feedback, too!

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > > And: Can I set up Post/LX to not use the PopFirst setting when using
> > > this "special" WWW setup?
> >
> > Why care? Makes no difference to the ISP Servers. I am
> > thinking about recommending ot make it the default mode,
> > maybe the only mode.
>
> If I connect via cell phone I want to save every second, because of
> high connection costs. So it would be good to avoid the connection with
> the POP server if I only have to send one or two emails. At 9600 baud
> the connection to the POP server takes some seconds, sometimes even up
> to 10 or 20 seconds, if the POP server I use is very busy.
> But with another SMTP server that I want to use if I do not connect via cell
> phone I have to set the POPFirst setting.
> Hence my desires. :-)

The program by default visits SMTP then POP3. Always both!
Makes no difference if it visits POP3 then SMTP or SMTP
then POP3.

If you want to block any uploads or downloads, then use the
"visit arrows" on the main screen. Highlight the mailbox
then press D repeatedly to toggle the downarrow from arrow
(=download from POP3 server), to H (=download only
headers), to nothing (= do not access the POP3 server).

With the SMTP (up arrow), press U repeatedly and it toggles
the up arrow to nothing - meaning upload or not.

> I hope I described it good enough - it's a little bit complicated,
> because of my quite umcommon setup: university as ISP and email
> provider over a cell phone connection and other call-by-call-ISPs and
> GMX as email provider when connected over modem line.
> And GMX needs POPFirst.

What you say makes sense but it does not work like this
with the program.

Even more: Post/LX has no clue if there is any POP3
messages waiting for you until it connects and finds out.
(We have a version to be released on July 42, 2000 :)
called Prophet/LX which predicts if you have email or
not!), so it always wants to connect to POP3. With SMTP it
is different. If there is nothing to send, Post/LX will not
try to visit the SMTP server (just to send nothing!)...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:27:40 -0400
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You are raising what is an _enormously_ complex issue, and one on which a
large amount of mis-information regularly circluates. Virtually every version
of DOS, DOS clones and Pseudo-DOS (the versions of dos-like systems that
exist under some Windows systems) have different complexities and limitations.
Add to this the complexity of third-party partition managers and you are
almost ready for a life-long study.

Just to give one example, NT, as delivered, cannot deal with a disk that
has entries in the Partition Table >8Gb. It was not until SP3 that it acquired
this capability, so restrictions of install time are removed once SP3+ is
installed.

At the moment I have one system with 30gb, and various versions of DOS can
`see' most of it, but not all at once (at least the way I have it configured).

"Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" wrote:
>
> Hi Barry; All,
>
> re: Barry's:
>
> <<..limit in com files...64k.  But when the program is running it can use
> all available memory in the computer and read files as large as Dos can
> support.>>
>
> When we're talking about DOS file size limitations is there a correlation
> between the HDD size DOS can support and the file size it can address?
>
> I mean if it can only partition and see (what is it 1.2 GB partitions? I
> forget) and has the ability to address a partition of a certain size,
> doesn't that mean it can't get "ahold of" (address) a file any bigger than
> it could partition?
>
> Aside from the fact that, if it can't make a 10 GB Partition, there's no
> place to put a 10 GB file....<grin> .... I suppose there're network "drives;
> but, if someone is using their LX to edit 10 GB files on a network, they
> need to do an article for Thaddeus!
>
> --tim
>
>  Tim Raymond
> ---------------------------------
> There is always a way to do it better... Find it!  -- Edison.
> email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
>
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Hi,

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:10:20 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> If you edit that group, you can place a -xxxx as the high message number
> and it will download the newest (last) xxxx messages, say, -50 or -100
> or -999

But this works only for the  following online session.
I think it also was interesting to be able to download in every session
only the last xxxx postings. Is this possible somehow?

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:10:14 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Well, I don't know what's happening but in your first message I saw your
> From: line with G-nther (the hyphen in the "u" position) but in the body
> of the message the other "u" had an umlaut.
>
> In your second message, the From: line contained no data!!!!  The entire
> From: after that word was blank.

The first message from Guenther also contained the hyphen in my inbox.
The second message too. But the third message ehich Guenther sent some
time later contained the umlaut! No hyphen, no ISO.... strings.

GTX
daniel



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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:09:16 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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              Inc.
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<< I appreciate all the input regarding the "Thaddeus Modem".  I'd still
though, like to find out more about it before I buy one.

Will someone please relay me the make and model number of it?
Marc
>>


Marc, it is a generic modem with a Rockwell chip set. I believe it is OEM'd
in quantities for specific partners. I don't know more. I heard about the
modem speaking to an ex-EXP fax/modem employee. He had been selling the
modem to 200LX users in Brazil and had heard nothing but good things about
it. He put me in contact with a distributor.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
www.palmtoppaper.com

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> But this works only for the  following online session.
> I think it also was interesting to be able to download in every session
> only the last xxxx postings. Is this possible somehow?

Yes. In the Ýnewsgroup¨ section itself, add parameter:

KeepNumber=1
LastNr=-50

The combination will make News/LX keep the -50.

You can also move the KeepNumber parameter to the ÝNEWS¨
section, and it will affect all newsgroups which have a
LastNr=-nn.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:32:18 -0400
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> 1) What is the brand/model off the modem listed on that site?  There are
> no pictures or specs regarding the modem... basically only a price.

Mine says "PC card Fax Modem" and also says "Rockwell"

> 2) For those of you using this modem... what kind of battery life do
> you get as compared to using the older 14.4 pcmcia modems?

I don't use it with batteries much, but it seems similar to my 14.4 modems

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Sorry all to take up bandwidth. James, the card arrived. My hard drive
crashed and took Email along with it and this is the only way I had to
contact you.

Thanks all,
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> way back when. For "heavy lifting" I use Word 5.5 or sometimes WP 5.1

I am having some problems adjusting to Word 5.5 from Word 5.0,
particularly, where some of my macros are concerned.

One that I used a lot searched for TWO CARRIAGE RETURNS consecutively
(demarcing a paragraph) and replaced them with &&, then found the
single hard returns  and removed them completely - to reformat text that
had hard carriage returns after every line.  The finally replaced the
two &&'s with two hard returns.

I cannot find a way in Word 5.5 to search for and replace some of the
special characters, like hard returns, that I could under 5.0.

Any help appreciated.

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> I cannot find a way in Word 5.5 to search for and replace some of the
> special characters, like hard returns, that I could under 5.0.
>
I don't actually use macros very often, though I should. They can make life a
lot easier.

To replace a carriage return, the text you want to replace is ¬p (caret followed
by p). Likewise, a tab is represented as ¬t (caret followed by t), a space is
represented as ¬w (caret followed by w). There are others that I can't recall at
the moment.

This works in the menu boxes, so it should also work in a macro, no? Is this
what you needed?

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On 27 Apr 2000 11:57:09 -0700, David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

I ofcourse have to comment :-)


> > The 7110 requires a different cable to be able to use AT commands over a
> > serial port, it is called a DLR-3.  It will work with a DAU-9P, but has
> > different ways of uploading ringtones, logo's etc.

Logomanager for Logos/Ringtones/Phonebook should work with DAU-9P too.
For data you must use DLR-3 or irda.

> > Other than that, I took the plunge and bought one, with a view to replacing
> > my Psion 5mx with a 7110, and a Sony Vaio C1XD.

It will never replace the Hplx..but I leave the Hplx more at home than
before..

>  The calendering on a 7110
> > is quite advanced, and I would prefer to take the phone everywhere instead
> > of a psion.

The calender is okey.. You can add Meeting/Call/Birthday/Reminder. You
can set a alarm on all of them but the Reminder..very strange. I use
the 7110 for tv programs and birthdays..

> The only minus points I have is that the Vibration alert makes
> > me jump out of my skin,

Yes that is very true..:-)

> the battery life seems quite short,

About 2-3 days at most..but it is okey for me..

> and it will take
> > a little while to get a decent firmware version,

4.80 and above is okey. I have 4.84 and it still has some minor things
that needs fixing. The phone does not crahs like the 4.73 would when
editing Calling group ringtones..

> oh, and the fact that the
> > phone will not be upgradeable to WAP 1.2.

This is not a sure thing..Nokia says that it will, but we just have to
wait and see.. I do not use wap that much..

> > The games are great, (I find the tennis a bit hard), and the WAP is actually
> > useful over here in Ireland!!

There are some wap services that are usefull. Most of them are fun but
not very usefull..

> > One thing that I would like to get though, is documentation on the full
> > range of AT commands for the phone, as I would love to be able to write an
> > import / export module for evolution.

I have tried to get a hold of a full specs on the AT commands of the
7110 but I have not have any luck yet.

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On 27 Apr 2000 08:57:30 -0700, "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM> wrote:

> Only a few hours left to bid with no reserve price!
>
> Mint condition handheld pc.  Ships in original retail box and includes all
> hardware, manuals and CD's.

To recycle an old Andreas Garzotto joke..is this WinCE machine heavy
enough to be used as a paper weight?:-))

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On 27 Apr 2000 11:43:31 -0700, Albert Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

> Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:38:42 -0500 (EST)
>
> Can anyone comment on the use of a NOKIA 7110 & HPLX?

I have done that a lot lately.. Check the archives for any messages
that has anything to do with irdaphones..

I have a 7110 and it works very well for use with Www/lx. I also beam
contacts from the Hplx phonebook to the 7110. The 7110 has a 5 number/2
textfield per name(1000 names) phonebook.(wow!)

The 7110 has a spring loaded flip The US model will AFAIK not have the
spring flip and will "instead" contain a Todolist.. The US model will
be 7190 and is soon to be released (Haha..yeah sure :-)

I got a new sms script which will work better on the 7110. I am sure
Andreas will make this availible on the Dasoft page too. The 7110 can
store about 50-60 sms's depending on your simcard.

Please check my messages on the subject and then I am happy to answer
any questions you may have..I am very satisfied with the phone..but it
still has some bugs and things I do not like.. But the best phone I
have had..

(Ericsson R320 will be launhed tomorrow here in Europe/Norway. You
should consider it if you like the Ericsson way to do things. It has
lacks the big phonebook but it got features that the 7110 does not
have. But then againg I am a Nokia man..:-)

Regards

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Sure could! If that's what you want to buy it for...go ahead :o)

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Longden Loo wrote:
> > The one or two times I had to edit something big, I believe I used =
edlin
>
> Big?  Edlin?  I thought it was limited to files of 65k or less?
>
> Cheers... Russ     (Yep, I've still got copy of Edlin "just in case")

There's nothing like a combination of alcohol and talk of edlin
to make me feel maudlin.

When I was trying to work on Honeywell minis, these idiots kept
bugging me to edit a funny file called autoexec.bat on their
toy IBM XTs, because I seemed to be the only one who could
control edlin.

It seems so funny now, but I always had to ask, "what was the
name of that file again?", cos I could never remember!

1,$!P

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   >The 100LX had a problem with lots of flash cards.  There was an
   >ACECARD3 driver that made them work, and I think Mack Baggette of
   >Times2 Tech (www.times2tech.com) has one that works even better ...
   >but maybe not finished yet.  Mack?

Does anyone know if the 100LX will work with those 20 megabyte cards Scott
Moore has been selling on the list?

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On 2000-04-12 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >I would have to add InfoSelect to your list, unless someone knows
   >of a better general purpose, powerful and easy to use info manager .
   >. .

How does InfoSelect compare to Flexpad, if you happen to know?

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Chris Randle wrote:
> > How nice it is to receive regular, useful updates to software,
> > without having to fork out yet more money, unlike certain
> > other software companies.


Avi wrote:
> Well, this too will end. Eventually we will have a major
> release and it'll cost. So far we brought out about 15-20
> updates since April 1998!!!


Will you have another major release then?



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> My apologies to members (and Daniel) for that earlier link.... I forget
> sometimes that we occupy the same planetary space as Mac users <g>.
>
> As to the print-to-file suggestion, my guess is that the output would be printer
> specific commands, not an image file.
>
> But, not to lose hope... I searched again on AltaVista and found a Psion page
> (yeah we share with them too...):
>
> This link:
> http://www.celigne.co.uk/psion/lpic2ps.html
>
> purports to have (freeware?) C code to convert Lotus PIC files to PostScript,
> and which the author says "should compile anywhere"
>
> And this link:
> http://www.corel.com/partners_developers/ds/CO16SDK/DOCS/_D2CONVT.HTM
>
> says WordPerfect has a Lotus .pic conversion
>
> And this link:
> http://www.mwcdrom.com/catalog/dtp/2191.htm
>
> has one that works in Win 3.x / 9x.  Commercial (India), so I'm not sure how
> much it costs.
>
> And this one:
> http://helpmaster.com/sight/graphictools.htm
>
> seems to indicate that PaintShop Pro  3.11 (16bit, shareware) is able to handle
> Lotus PIC conversions.
>
> - Longden
>
> Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> on 04/20/2000 08:16:01 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
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>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Re: PIC graphics format by Lotus 123
>
> > The desktop 123 used to include a print-graph utility, so maybe it had a
> > conversion also.  I have v2.3, but only in 5.25" disks and can't check it out
> > till I get my hands on a 5.25" drive.
> >
> Ýsnip¨
> >
> > I did a websearch on AltaVista (using "graphics conversion lotus 123 pic") and
> > came up with this link:
> >
> > http://www.lemkesoft.de/index.html
> >
> Unfortunately for most of you folks, the lemkesoft application is Mac-only. It's
> the famous Graphic Converter, probably the best image converter/manipulator for
> Macs. I highly recommend it (for Mac-heads).
>
> The last version of Graphics Workshop known to work on the palmtop, which is
> available on SUPER, does not handle vector graphics like Lotus' PIC files. Maybe
> a later desktop-only version does.
>
> This is just a shot in the dark, but can you print-to-file your .PIC from 1-2-3,
> then open that file from LXPic or Graphics Converter?
>
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Hi friends,

thanks for all your feedback! Now I have looked into some of your
suggestions and this one is the program of my choice: simple, fast,
runs on the LX:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:46:37 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> This link:
> http://www.celigne.co.uk/psion/lpic2ps.html
>
> purports to have (freeware?) C code to convert Lotus PIC files to PostScript,
> and which the author says "should compile anywhere"

Thanks, Longden! Great program! Converts the PIC files very fast into
PS files that are usable in Linux for all purposes - including
embedding into LaTeX documents. Exactly what I needed!
I tried to compile it under Linux - works.
I tried to compile it with TCC-compiler on the LX - works, too!

GTX
daniel

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hello Daniell, Avi and others who do not still believe the 1st April is
the only day for making jokes,

On 27 Apr 2000, at 23:23, Avi Meshar wrote:

> Even more: Post/LX has no clue if there is any POP3
> messages waiting for you until it connects and finds out.
> (We have a version to be released on July 42, 2000 :)
> called Prophet/LX which predicts if you have email or
> not!), so it always wants to connect to POP3. With SMTP it
> is different. If there is nothing to send, Post/LX will not
> try to visit the SMTP server (just to send nothing!)...
>

if you do not want to wait this long:

I already use a prophet - it works with my mobile phone and GMX,  a
free Email provider. GMX offers the possibility to page you when you
get an Email. The paging adress you can enter is free. My mobile phone
company offers a free SMS service and you can have an Email adress
(phonenumber@text.mobilkom.at) for receiving Emails as SMS.
If I get a Email my mobile phone beeps and I get the subject and the
first lets say 80 characters of the message on my phone.
And the service is free. It works great unless the mobilkom server is
not down which happens sometimes - they do not have a weekend
serviceman engaged i guess.

cheers,
Werner

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>>Actually the limit in com files is the filesize of the program
>>itself.  That's limited to 64k.  But when the program is running it
>>can use all available memory in the computer and read files as large

with the quickc compiler you can be limited as to the amount of memory you
can malloc(), if you compile with the  small memory model you are limited to
using 64k of memory on the other hand using the compact or large memory
model you can malloc() up to the amount of free system memory, the reason
for this is that in the small memory model all pointers to address's are
near ie 8 bytes so only 64k of memory can be addressed ie the pointer points
to the offset into the segment only. without looking it up I would guess a
.com has to fit both its code and data into the 64k space

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I am not the original poster, but I think I can comment some
on your question.   InfoSelect doesn't do much, but it does
it very well.   If you are the type of person that prefers
to put your thoughts or information down as they come, and
organize them later, InfoSelect has no equal, IMNSHO.  The
great thing is that you have fast access to your
information, whether you make time to organize it or not.
And it has a very low learning  curve.

If on the other hand, you prefer to be presented with a
structure to put down your information, other programs might
be better, though InfoSelect handles that well enough.

I have tried Flexpad many times (as recent as last week),
and I am very impressed by its power and speed.  But the
learning curve is higher, and the approach of combining
structured and unstructured information in the same file is
a bit confusing to me.  I don' yet fully understand the
label system (the documentation could be better, I think).

I guess it all depends on which approach works for you, but
lately I have been using InfoSelect in connection with
Grandview.
The collapsing outline approach is exactly what I need to
organize my random information (Micrologic saw the wisdom of
that, and InfoSelect for Windows and for the palm now
include outlining.  Not in the Dos version, unfortunately).
I run InfoSelect as a TSR on top of GrandView, and it works
great for me.   YMMV.

Domingo



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From: David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Sent: April 27, 2000 6:54:55 PM GMT
Subject: Re: MUST HAVE set of palmtop applications?


On 2000-04-12 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
>I would have to add InfoSelect to your list, unless someone
knows
>of a better general purpose, powerful and easy to use info
manager .
>. .

How does InfoSelect compare to Flexpad, if you happen to
know?

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Maybe this explains why I was able to list only about 38k of data at a time (on
a 247k file) using edlin, even tho I entered into the edit session with 597k of
system memory available (per "mem").  Edlin itself is about 13k.

- Longden





Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM> on 04/28/2000 05:57:59 AM

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>>Actually the limit in com files is the filesize of the program
>>itself.  That's limited to 64k.  But when the program is running it
>>can use all available memory in the computer and read files as large

with the quickc compiler you can be limited as to the amount of memory you
can malloc(), if you compile with the  small memory model you are limited to
using 64k of memory on the other hand using the compact or large memory
model you can malloc() up to the amount of free system memory, the reason
for this is that in the small memory model all pointers to address's are
near ie 8 bytes so only 64k of memory can be addressed ie the pointer points
to the offset into the segment only. without looking it up I would guess a
.com has to fit both its code and data into the 64k space

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hello all

i am tring to get my internet connection working. i am using one of the
thadeus 56k cards, with dosppp and lxtcp though att worldnet connections. i
can connect to things by ip address but not using the dns name. when it
connects it picks up the dns servers (i do a lxtcpcfg). when i try to
resolve address's i get the following:

ICMP: Port Unavailable

Any ideas?

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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:57:44 +0200
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Hi friends,

my brother is looking for an emacs clone that runs on a 100LX. SDoes
someone of you know of such a program?

GTX
daniel

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Tachna" <ltachna@royalzenith.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: Com files and memory
>
> with the quickc compiler you can be limited as to the amount of
memory you
> can malloc(), if you compile with the  small memory model you are
limited to
> using 64k of memory on the other hand using the compact or large
memory
> model you can malloc() up to the amount of free system memory, the
reason
> for this is that in the small memory model all pointers to
address's are
> near ie 8 bytes so only 64k of memory can be addressed ie the
pointer points
> to the offset into the segment only. without looking it up I would
guess a
> .com has to fit both its code and data into the 64k space.

That's only true of malloc().  It uses the local heap.  farmalloc()
will return a far pointer to an allocated area in the far heap (the
rest of ram) of up to 64k.  You can get as many segments from
farmalloc as you need, one segment at a time.  This is true in any
small data mode.  In the large data models, malloc() works like both
malloc() and farmalloc() in the small data models.

Far pointers are allowed in small model programs, they're just not
the default.

In QuickC the function is called _fmalloc() instead.  Microsoft
always uses different names for the sake of standardization.  :)

In any case, I'd be surprised if edlin was written in C.  C wasn't
that common when edlin was written.  It was used a lot but probably
not as much as asm for things on the os level in those days.

I just found a copy of edlin datad 1991.  I cant run it to see what
version it is.  I get an "incorrect dos version" error in dos under
win98 and I dont want to deal with that right now.  The file size is
13k.  A small editor might have been written in an early C compiler
in 13k if it was written very well.  But it's much more likely to be
asm.

I looked through it for ascii strings, for printf formatting
strings, in particular, and I found %1 after a couple of error
messages.  That's probably from some asm print function.  It's not
quite C.  Nothing else in the file indicated it might have been in
C.  It's common to at least find the compiler name somewhere
embedded in the program.

Barry

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Freyja, which has been around forever, and Micro Emacs, are both on the SUPER
site.  I don't use emacs myself, so I can't comment much on them.

Freyja was written for the 95LX (and upgraded for the 100LX) and apparently can
be used as a SysMgr compliant EXM.

- Longden





Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> on 04/28/2000 06:57:44 AM

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Hi friends,

my brother is looking for an emacs clone that runs on a 100LX. SDoes
someone of you know of such a program?

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I am kind of busy at the moment otherwise I would have typed more in my
previous email. The author has considerable information about the
program at:

http://maxthink.com/max/max.html

The program comes with both an audio tape tutorial and a fairly hefty
manual. It is a good brainstorming tool as the author suggests. I used
it to good effect in my own career. I am sure I could manage without it
but it is very convenient for playing with and developing ideas -
especially on the palmtop where you are limited to a text interface.

GaryS

> How about you telling us about it?  I never heard of it.
>
> Domingo
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Sent: April 27, 2000 2:21:07 AM GMT
> Subject: Outliners
>
> I had been waiting for someone to mention MaxThink which is
> still
> available but seems no body else uses it :-)
>
> GaryS
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You'd better be using `Clone' in an almost metaphorical sense here. EMacs
takes detectable time to do some tasks on my 500MHz portable, and occasionally
grinds on my 200Mhz machine. If a `clone' were reasonably faithful to the
core of EMacs I imagine it would run like sludge on a 100Lx...

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> my brother is looking for an emacs clone that runs on a 100LX. SDoes
> someone of you know of such a program?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>

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On Wednesday, 26.04.2000 at 23:54 GMT, Russel Brooks  wrote:
> I suspect you're the only user of the (old) IBM PE editor on this list
> so you'd be the only one confused.  Am I wrong? ..do others here use PE?
> I used the IBM PE editor for a while back when it was new; I think that
> was in the DOS 2.0 days when the XT was still a big deal.  I don't think
> I used it for more than a year or two before moving on something else.
>
> For most (simple) edits I use the Tiny editor T.EXE (only 10k).  For
> bigger jobs I use Xedit (IBM VM/CMS mainframe) or its pc clone Kedit.
>
I'd think you're right. I've never used PE much (although its ability to
dynamically read configuration files was quite nice) because I didn't like
its speed. On the HP 200 LX I'm either using T.EXE (same as you) or the E3
editor which supports sorting, spell checking (I use German, US English,
and Dutch dictionaries) and much more.

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Sounds like you're not putting in the right DNS server address (or the DNS
is misconfigured). The ICMP port unavailable is caused by you trying to
reach a host's UDP port when no process is listening on that port. That's
how UDP is supposed to respond when you access a non listening port. (Why it
doesn't respond with UDP instead of ICMP I don't know. I'm sure there's a
good reason found in some RFC somewhere :-/)


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Johnson Ýmailto:mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK¨
>Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:33 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ dns and stuff
>
>
>hello all
>
>i am tring to get my internet connection working. i am using one of the
>thadeus 56k cards, with dosppp and lxtcp though att worldnet
>connections. i
>can connect to things by ip address but not using the dns name. when it
>connects it picks up the dns servers (i do a lxtcpcfg). when i try to
>resolve address's i get the following:
>
>ICMP: Port Unavailable
>
>Any ideas?
>
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On 2000-04-14 Domingo said:
   >Also, the last time we went through this, no one mentioned Flexpad
   >(I don't use it either, just curious about the alternatives to what
   >I use).

Hmm.  I use Flexpad on a weekly basis and am curious about the capabilities
of InfoSelect.  Perhaps we should compare notes?


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On 2000-04-14 Hal said:
   >Some very good things are happening in terms of palmtop
   >availability. There is a good chance we have tapped into a limited
   >source of new units (we'll know soon) and a huge source of
   >refurbished units (would be available by August).

This is excellent news.  Since I gave away my backup palmtop as a Christmas
present to a relative, I've been frantically searching for a backup unit
that won't break my bank account.


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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:09:28 -0100
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Hi,

does somebody have a copy of the XLATE utility (about 10Kbytes)
that she or he can share?

It is listed on S.U.P.E.R, but not available there for whatever
reason.

Thanks
Norbert


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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:58:33 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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In case anyone is curious what the problem was, Avi explained to me that
the data directory format in the POST.CFG needs to specified as
"Dir=.\00" not as "Dir=00" as I was doing.

I'm now running Post 2.2g successfully.

Cheers... Russ


Russel Brooks wrote:
> I just upgraded from POST 2.2d to 22.f and had the following problem
> which forced me to fall back to my previous level of 2.2d.
>
> My directory structure looks like this:
>
>   c:\wwwlx\      ...www/lx code files
>   c:\wwwlx\0     ...not used by www/lx
>   c:\wwwlx\00    ...all email and ng files are kept in this directory
>   c:\wwwlx\000   ...not used by www/lx
>   c:\wwwlx\temp  ...temp files used by www/lx
>
> When I replaced the 2.2d version of POST.EXE with the 2.2f version it
> changed the "Dir=00" lines in the ng and folder sections of my POST.CFG
> to "Dir=0".  This of course meant it didn't think I had any files in any
> of those areas.  I replaced the CFG with the (still good) BAK file and
> tried starting WWW/LX again and it again modified the Dir=00 lines and
> came up without any of my files.  I fell back to the 2.2d version of
> POST.EXE and the problem went away.
>
> I realize my directory naming convention may be a bit odd but still,
> POST shouldn't make those changes.
>
> Russ

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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> hello Daniell, Avi and others who do not still believe the 1st April is
> the only day for making jokes,
>
> On 27 Apr 2000, at 23:23, Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > Even more: Post/LX has no clue if there is any POP3
> > messages waiting for you until it connects and finds out.
> > (We have a version to be released on July 42, 2000 :)
> > called Prophet/LX which predicts if you have email or
> > not!), so it always wants to connect to POP3. With SMTP it
> > is different. If there is nothing to send, Post/LX will not
> > try to visit the SMTP server (just to send nothing!)...

  Ý...¨

> if you do not want to wait this long:
>
> I already use a prophet - it works with my mobile phone and GMX,  a
> free Email provider. GMX offers the possibility to page you when you

ROFL!!! So you noticed the date - indeed a looong wait.

Yes, this is not new. Compuserve had that available since
about 1996. I had something like this available to me when
I worked with a company years ago, and they forced me to
wear a pager. They also setup my account to send me a page
each time an email arrived at that mainframe-based email
package. It was not even an Internet email system!

This stuff is not new...

What I meant to say is that Post/LX cannot tell UNLESS it
opens that server. BTW, the systems you talk about do
EXACTLY that, they open the server and check it out.

>     Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.

Wonderful! I love bagpipe music...

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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:43:07 -0500
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<<This is excellent news.  Since I gave away my backup palmtop as a
Christmas
present to a relative, I've been frantically searching for a backup unit
that won't break my bank account.>>

The new palmtops we have in stock are going VERY fast -- we are down to 40.
We sell them as 8 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Contact wayne@thaddeus.com).

We expect a one to two year supply of used units that by early August, maybe
even a little sooner. We will sell them in all memory configurations from 2
meg to 96 meg.  The pricing for upgraded units will be what is listed on our
web site at www.palmtoppaper.com (plain 2 meg units will probably sell for
$295)  They are EuroEnglish which means they function identically as US
units, but they have extra symbols on the keyboard that remind how to
generate pound signs, umlauts, etc.

By then (hopefully) we should have backlighting, so people might want to
order an additional backlit unit.

The good news is that this guarantees we will be in business for AT LEAST
two more years selling and supporting palmtops, software, and accessories.

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>>That's only true of malloc().  It uses the local heap.  farmalloc()

good point!

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Try "uemacs". CUG has at least 2 versions: 3.9 & 3.11. I used the 3.9
version
for 10 years.

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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:58 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Emacs clone for 100LX


Hi friends,

my brother is looking for an emacs clone that runs on a 100LX. SDoes
someone of you know of such a program?

GTX
daniel

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My coments in between << text >> below (I know that's not
the standard way to reply.  Sorry).

Domingo

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: April 28, 2000 6:43:07 PM GMT
Subject: Re: New Palmtop Availability


We expect a one to two year supply of used units that by
early August
<<snip>>
By then (hopefully) we should have backlighting, so people
might want to order an additional backlit unit.

<<So now we are down to August with the backlight?  :+( >>

The good news is that this guarantees we will be in business
for AT LEAST two more years selling and supporting palmtops,
software, and accessories.

<<Doesn't your WinCE bussiness guarantee that you'll be
around beyond that point?  Or is the hplx your bread and
butter?>>

<<By the way, do you sell keyboard layouts for the hp200lx?
I am looking for blanks and WordPerfect>>

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On 28 Apr 2000 02:34:02 -0700, "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@gmx.net> wrote:

> hello Daniell, Avi and others who do not still believe the 1st April is
> the only day for making jokes,
>
> On 27 Apr 2000, at 23:23, Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > Even more: Post/LX has no clue if there is any POP3
> > messages waiting for you until it connects and finds out.
> > (We have a version to be released on July 42, 2000 :)
> > called Prophet/LX which predicts if you have email or
> > not!), so it always wants to connect to POP3. With SMTP it
> > is different. If there is nothing to send, Post/LX will not
> > try to visit the SMTP server (just to send nothing!)...
> >
>
> if you do not want to wait this long:
>
> I already use a prophet - it works with my mobile phone and GMX,  a
> free Email provider. GMX offers the possibility to page you when you
> get an Email.

This is what Mobilpost is too. A service from my Cellular phone provider
Telenor Mobil.

> The paging adress you can enter is free. My mobile phone
> company offers a free SMS service and you can have an Email adress
> (phonenumber@text.mobilkom.at) for receiving Emails as SMS.

My emailadress is phonenumber@mobilpost.com but I got
martin@mobilpost.com as an alias..

I would like a free service so I can set up additional emaiadresses and
get a sms when it recevies any email.. I guess you have to pay to have
GMX or have to have a german phonenumber to get the service you got?

> If I get a Email my mobile phone beeps and I get the subject and the
> first lets say 80 characters of the message on my phone.

We have a more advanced setup. I get max 9 sms's with approx 160
characters for each mail. I also know if it has attachments. I can
reply by sms or forward the mail with sms commands.. I can also send
mail as sms..

It is really great when it works. I can not imagine living without it.
If I am really waiting for a email I can go on with my buisiness
without connecting to the internet all the time to check..

> And the service is free. It works great unless the mobilkom server is
> not down which happens sometimes - they do not have a weekend
> serviceman engaged i guess.

The Mobilpost service is not free. Cost 20 Nok per month, but I have
not paid for years because they have had problems (and still has). My
experience is that when the servicemen are at home or on vacation the
service works great..:-)

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:07:34 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From: Domingo

<<So now we are down to August with the backlight?  :+( >>

I don't know. I still hope end of June, but that now may be optimistic ....
Stuff happens that I have no control of, that just slows down the project
for no reason that serves anyone. It is the most frustrating project in
terms of delays that I have been involved in since starting my company 15
years ago. The end result should be worth waiting for --- it is just there
is no really good reason why we weren't able to offer backlighting 6 months
ago.

<<Doesn't your WinCE bussiness guarantee that you'll be
around beyond that point?  Or is the hplx your bread and
butter?>>

Yes, we will be around for along time. However, the Palmtop business must
continue to be profitable (or at least break even) for it to continue. I
just wanted to reassure everyone that without question we will be supporting
200LX users for at least two years (my bet 3 to 4 more years).

<<By the way, do you sell keyboard layouts for the hp200lx?
I am looking for blanks and WordPerfect>>

I am not sure exactly what you mean -- but in any case we don't sell them.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:58:54 +0700
Reply-To:     Ripin Pen <ripin@dnet.net.id>
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I heard quite a lot about Freecell from many people on the list.  It is
really a nice game but for me 42 domino is more interesting.  I found after
hundred of games that its AI amazes me. My partner (by default: Pearl) tends
to be aggresive player some times and at the other times a concervative
player.
I recently record my score with Note Taker and up to now I score 42-35.  I
wish if there is ever a revision of this game (mine is version 1.2), Curtis
will include the scoring system as a matter of record.  Otherwise it is
still a wonderful game.  BIG thanks to Curtis.

By the way, the game can be downloaded at SUPER site.

Ripin Pen
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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:03:55 -0400
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              geologist@MINDSPRING.COM
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Hello,
 I just purchased a used 1MB Palmtop PC and have some extra
accessories that I'm putting with this unit to see if I can
sell it all as a package.
 Here is the list of items in the package:

 HP200LX 1MB Palmtop PC with all Manuals
 5MB HP ATA Flash Ram
 HP Connectivity Software with Manual
 Serial Connectivity Cable
 Battery Powered Serial to Parallel Convertor for Printing
 Newton Keyboard (Modified to plug directly into 200LX)
 Zippered Case for Newton Keyboard
 EXP 33.6 ThinFax Modem/Fax with 8MB Flash Ram and external
   battery pack
 CD with all drivers and a backup of configuration for quick
   restoration

 I would like to get $500.00 for this package. I don't need
this unit as I have a double speed 64MB new 200LX just purchased
from Thaddeus and a used 4MB Stock 200LX.

Thanks,

William E. Blankenship

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 06:13:54 +0100
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hello Avi.,

On 29 Apr 2000, at 4:42, Avi Meshar wrote:

> This stuff is not new...
>
> What I meant to say is that Post/LX cannot tell UNLESS it
> opens that server. BTW, the systems you talk about do
> EXACTLY that, they open the server and check it out.

I understood of course what you wanted to say. But the difference is
that the system I talk about does not open the server to look if there
is a new email, but the POP Server itself is active and pages me as
soon as a new message arrives. So I do not have to check my POP3 server
if there is nothing on it. (and I know that before looking at it)

Werner



Thought for the day:
    Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people
    that they are right, whether they are or not.

--
AX25: OE9FWV@OE9XPI.AUT.EU
SMS: mailto:+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at
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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:00:01 +0000
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              Don Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Does anyone know the maximum file sizes for Grandview, Framework, and
InfoSelect?

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Grandview's manual says about 400k is the limit on a 640k system.

> Date:          Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:00:01 +0000
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>                Don Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
> From:          Don Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
> Subject:       GrandView, Framework, InfoSelect
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> Does anyone know the maximum file sizes for Grandview, Framework, and
> InfoSelect?
>

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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:16:01 -0700
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              Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Framework uses virtual memory and I believe its limits are fixed more in
terms of record numbers than by physical byte size.  For example, I think
its limited to 32k rows in a spreadsheet, and perhaps 32k lines of outline
topics.  32k was a magic number, and I don't know that I've ever seen a
filesize limit ... maybe because it'll slow to a crawl long before it gets
close to 32k outline lines.

You don't want FW for just the outlining ... it's overkill.  I've never used
the other two, so I can't comment.

- Longden

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> Does anyone know the maximum file sizes for Grandview, Framework, and
> InfoSelect?

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Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:05:26 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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GaryS <garys@IBM.NET> wrote:

>>The Ýmaxthink¨ author has considerable information about the program at:
http://maxthink.com/max/max.html

I found the site but most of the links ended in 404 errors. Were you able to
order the program through the site?

Neil Larson(?) has some good ideas about "knowledge annealing" somewhat
along the lines of Dan Bricklin's ideas of writing for the Internet. Much of
this has been tried in "distance learning projects" over the past 10 years.
The projects I've been part of have, in general, suffered from being run by
programmers who have never taught or by teachers who have never programmed.
The whole field could use a hybrid person, one who is both a programmer and
a knowledge person. --nuff rambling.

.ed.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:48:22 -0700
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Have you folks seen this one?  The "YOPY" Linux PDA has:

4" TFT colour LCD & backlight
206 MHz 32-bit ARM RISC CPU
32 MB RAM
Mobile Linux OS
Embedded browser & email client
CF slot
MP3 Player
4 Mbps IrDA transceiver
RS232C & USB port
1400mA rechargeable LiIon battery
stylus & handwriting recognition
etc.
etc.

have a look at <http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/>
and <http://www.gicom.de/yopy/>

It's apparently slated for release this summer, at around $500(!)

It's another keyboardless-device, so it looks like it'd be a nice thing
to connect to, perhaps via the LX's IR or serial port, or for file transfer
using CF.  Since it also lacks a PCMCIA slot, but has many desirable and
wished-for features not found in the LX, it's interesting to think about how
the two devices might complement rather than replace each other.


Team 200LX, Vancouver

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:50:28 EDT
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undiscribe

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:33:33 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 28 Apr 2000 15:11:05 -0700, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> The end result should be worth waiting for --- it is just there
> is no really good reason why we weren't able to offer backlighting 6 months
> ago.

Just having some fun: You could apply for a job at Nokia. They are
famous for relasing products very late :-)

They were supposed to release the Nokia 7110 in july 1999 but I got
mine in late january of 2000.. I first saw it in january of 1999..

But the 7110 was worth waiting for and I am sure the backlight will
be also..

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:33:29 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 28 Apr 2000 11:46:35 -0700, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> <<This is excellent news.  Since I gave away my backup palmtop as a
> Christmas
> present to a relative, I've been frantically searching for a backup unit
> that won't break my bank account.>>
>
> The new palmtops we have in stock are going VERY fast -- we are down to 40.
> We sell them as 8 meg, 32 meg, and 64 meg. (Contact wayne@thaddeus.com).

Sounds great. I already have a backupunit. But I would like to know if
the memory upgrades will still be availible in the future? I would like
a 32 or a 64mb upgrade, but that will not happen any time soon.

I have been told that the memory upgrades are custom made and therefor
expencive.

Regards

--
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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 09:43:02 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Subject:      Compact Flash Disk,
              PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available
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I have (1) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk
available. This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a
few times  to test a customers new prototype product at work. I am
selling this disk for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I
also have (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA  Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am selling
this disk for $120.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I still
have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell
(1) 20 Meg disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I
sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If your are
only interested in  name brand Sandisks then I have (7) 20 Meg PCMCIA
disks  available as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00
plus $5.00 shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for
$75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping.
I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back the very same day I receive  your payment and let
you know that your disks our on hte way. I always send ou the very next
day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I wil send them
out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are interested, email
me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.
The response on our group has been really terrific and the people I have
worked with have been just great!  Thanks alot!    Scott

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:35:15 -0400
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              GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
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Hi Ed,

> >>The Ýmaxthink¨ author has considerable information about the program at:
> http://maxthink.com/max/max.html
>
> I found the site but most of the links ended in 404 errors. Were you able to
> order the program through the site?

I checked the site before posting the URL and had no trouble with the
links I tested? I ordered the program by phone some time ago - if you
call the phone number he will get back to you and if you tell him about
the 404 errors he will investigate them.

> Neil Larson(?) has some good ideas about "knowledge annealing" somewhat
> along the lines of Dan Bricklin's ideas of writing for the Internet. Much of
> this has been tried in "distance learning projects" over the past 10 years.
> The projects I've been part of have, in general, suffered from being run by
> programmers who have never taught or by teachers who have never programmed.
> The whole field could use a hybrid person, one who is both a programmer and
> a knowledge person. --nuff rambling.

Isn't that true of most fields :-)

GaryS

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:03:34 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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              SMTP.COMPUSERVE.COM)
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> > I have every setup for every ISP in WWW/LX twice: one for an PCMCIA-M=
odem
> > and one for an external modem. So I had to let Post/LX ust a special
> > SMTP for _2_ WWW setups.
>=20
> This is not necessary. I strongly recommend to have just_one_generic
> setup per ISP in WWW.CFG. The differentiation is done in ÝWWW¨ section
> of POST.CFG
>=20
> ÝWWW¨
> ISP_A1NetPlus=3DA1Net
> ISP_&CompuServe_Salzburg=3DCIS
> ISP_&Netway=3DNetway
> &Standard_Setup=3DPrefix=3D- ModemInit=3DAT&FM1 Port=3D2
> &Office_Setup=3DPrefix=3D0 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M1 Port=3D2
> &Hotel_Setup=3DPrefix=3D9 ModemInit=3DAT&FX3M1 Port=3D2
> No_Prefix=3DPrefix=3D-
> GSM_A1Net=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D0043664684000 A1Net
> GSM_CIS=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D00436624678 CIS
> GSM_Netway=3DPort=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Dial=3D004321701 Netway
> A1-Stuttgart=3DA1Net Dial=3D07219662480
> A1-Paris=3DA1Net Dial=3D0153001540
> A1-Schweiz=3DA1Net Dial=3D0840840888
> CIS-&Villach=3DCIS Dial=3D0718915051
> CIS-&Wien/Salzburg=3DCIS Dial=3D0718915161
> CIS-&Paris=3DCIS Dial=3D0141880840
> CIS-&D=FCsseldorf=3DCIS Dial=3D02114792424

Daniel,

you should also check SETCOM at ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/www/setcom.zip
which allows you to automatically detect your hardware (external modem,
PCMCIA, Ethernet, IrDA) as well as automatic detection of ISP's. Here
is my SETCOM.BAT which shows how I do it with my three ISP's :

@echo off
c:\
cd\w
c:\tools\lxcic /w >NUL

@rem identify communication hardware settings

lxcic > NUL:
if errorlevel 7 goto external
if errorlevel 6 goto lan
if errorlevel 3 goto external
if errorlevel 2 goto pcmcia

@rem =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dexternal=
 modem connection=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

:external
port1 > NUL:
if errorlevel 1 goto irda
@rem external modem detected - dial through modem
wwwset "Port=3D1"
goto end

@rem =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DLAN conn=
ection=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

:lan
@rem LAN card detected - dial through LAN network
wwwset "Ether"
goto end

@rem =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DPCMCIA c=
onnection=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

:pcmcia
@rem PCMCIA modem detected - dial through PCMCIA modem
wwwset "Port=3D2"
goto end

@rem =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DInfrared Connection=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

:irda
@rem try IrDA connection - dial through GSM
@rem identify Internet Service Provider
@rem   A1Net        ...A1NetPro =3D EUNet
@rem   CIS          ...Compuserve
@rem   Netway       ...Netway

wwwset | xgrep A1Net > NUL:
if errorlevel 1 goto next1
@rem ISP selected is A1Net
wwwset "Dial=3D0043664684000 Port=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F A1Net"
serctl /w

:next1
wwwset | xgrep CIS > NUL:
if errorlevel 1 goto next2
@rem ISP selected is Compuserve
wwwset "Dial=3D00436624678 Port=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F CIS"
serctl /w

:next2
wwwset | xgrep Netway > NUL:
if errorlevel 1 goto end
@rem ISP selected is Netway
wwwset "Dial=3D0043121701 Port=3D-1 ModemInit=3DAT&F Netway"
serctl /w
goto end

@rem =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
:end

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:15 -0600
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:07:34 -0500, you wrote:

>From: Domingo
>
><<So now we are down to August with the backlight?  :+( >>
>
>I don't know. I still hope end of June, but that now may be optimistic =
....
>Stuff happens that I have no control of, that just slows down the =
project
>for no reason that serves anyone. It is the most frustrating project in
>terms of delays that I have been involved in since starting my company =
15
>years ago. The end result should be worth waiting for --- it is just =
there
>is no really good reason why we weren't able to offer backlighting 6 =
months
>ago.
>
><<Doesn't your WinCE bussiness guarantee that you'll be
>around beyond that point?  Or is the hplx your bread and
>butter?>>
>
>Yes, we will be around for along time. However, the Palmtop business =
must
>continue to be profitable (or at least break even) for it to continue. I
>just wanted to reassure everyone that without question we will be =
supporting
>200LX users for at least two years (my bet 3 to 4 more years).
>
><<By the way, do you sell keyboard layouts for the hp200lx?
>I am looking for blanks and WordPerfect>>
>
>I am not sure exactly what you mean -- but in any case we don't sell =
them.
>
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Couldn't you just buy the rights to the 200LX and get someone to make
a few thousand for your own sales inventory? Is HP that tight with
there patents or copy right inventions? Look at the Apollo printers
using HP technology? Or economically is it even worth considering?

I'm sure you could get some entity willing to make you a large number
etc, for the right price?

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:38:05 +0000
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> Does anyone know the maximum file sizes for Grandview, Framework, and
> InfoSelect?

Here's my InfoSelect directory:

BASE    .WD      31516 - my two data files
COMPUTER.WD      30050 - my two data files
EMPTY   .WD         33
GLOBAL  .GA        398
GREAT   .LA        138
IS      .EXE     59911
MENU    .WD      48740
N       .LA        138
NORM    .LA        138
SCREEN             472
SETUP   .EXE     63512
USER    .WD       6698


I don't recall if I pklited the exe's?????

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:07 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Outliners
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MaxThink is a great program in many ways, but it is limited vis-a-vis
Grandview in that it doesn't allow colums (a big plus for us Ecco orphans)
and is not Y2K compliant.

MaxThink is one of several DOS programs Neil Larson wrote several years ago,
mostly as a suite of hypertext tools. All of them -- MaxThink, Houdini,
Thesaur, et. al. -- are good in their own way, but are limited in that they
don't interface with each other the way you would expect and are crippled
for use a PIM due to the Y2K problem.

I bought all of Larson's programs when I discovered them and spend many
enjoyable hours playing with them, even had several terrific conversations
with Neil, but I no longer use the software.

Hope this helps.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Outliners


> GaryS <garys@IBM.NET> wrote:
> >>The Ýmaxthink¨ author has considerable information about the program at:
> http://maxthink.com/max/max.html
>
> I found the site but most of the links ended in 404 errors. Were you able
to
> order the program through the site?
>
> Neil Larson(?) has some good ideas about "knowledge annealing" somewhat
> along the lines of Dan Bricklin's ideas of writing for the Internet. Much
of
> this has been tried in "distance learning projects" over the past 10
years.
> The projects I've been part of have, in general, suffered from being run
by
> programmers who have never taught or by teachers who have never
programmed.
> The whole field could use a hybrid person, one who is both a programmer
and
> a knowledge person. --nuff rambling.
>
> .ed.
>
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>

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:25:38 +0000
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, GaryS wrote:

> I am kind of busy at the moment otherwise I would have typed more in my
> previous email. The author has considerable information about the
> program at:
>
> http://maxthink.com/max/max.html

Been to the site and crawled all over it. The author sounds
like a smart man, and he describes the paradigm most
convincingly, but he never seems to describe the program. There
are no (that I could find) screen shots, feature lists or a
demo. Are you in a position to compare it to, say, GrandView?
Did you get the chance to try before you buy(ed!)?

Thanks for any info.

--------

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:25:30 -0700
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From:         "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Disk, etc..(Scott Moore)
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I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.

At 09:43 AM 4/29/00 -0700, Scott Moore wrote:
>I have (1) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk
>available. This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a
>few times  to test a customers new prototype product at work. I am
>selling this disk for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I
>also have (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA  Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am
(snip)
>I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address
>Scott Moore
>20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
>Beaverton, Or 97006
(snip)
>The response on our group has been really terrific and the people I have
>worked with have been just great!  Thanks alot!    Scott
(snip)

Please this is a serious inquiry, I think 40-80megs
will suit my purposes well.  I am a Thaddeus buyer,
but the difference in price here is remarkable.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:35:07 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Hello T. McCoy, Well I can assure you I am not a robot. I just type a similar
ad every week and present what I have to offer and I usually get a great
response to it so that is why I  use pretty much the same wording. Feel free
to ask our  HPLX group or any of the people who have bought from  anything
you like and if you are interested please feel free to email me back and let
me know and  I will hold any disks I have available for you until I receive
your payment.  Thanks alot!    Scott

"T. McCoy" wrote:

> I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
> wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
> the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
> interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
> bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
> before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.
>
> At 09:43 AM 4/29/00 -0700, Scott Moore wrote:
> >I have (1) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk
> >available. This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a
> >few times  to test a customers new prototype product at work. I am
> >selling this disk for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I
> >also have (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA  Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am
> (snip)
> >I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address
> >Scott Moore
> >20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> >Beaverton, Or 97006
> (snip)
> >The response on our group has been really terrific and the people I have
> >worked with have been just great!  Thanks alot!    Scott
> (snip)
>
> Please this is a serious inquiry, I think 40-80megs
> will suit my purposes well.  I am a Thaddeus buyer,
> but the difference in price here is remarkable.
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:37:44 -0700
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              "David B. Rogers" <dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Disk, etc..(Scott Moore)
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The 48 meg c.f. card I bought from Scott made life with my
200lX very nice -- no more swapping those little 20 meg
cards.  I fully intend to buy another one from him as soon
as my budget allows.  He kept me apprised of when he
received payment and when he mailed the card.  And delivery
was --> fast <--.

David, WA7ZYQ

"T. McCoy" wrote:
>
> I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
> wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
> the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
> interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
> bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
> before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.
>
> At 09:43 AM 4/29/00 -0700, Scott Moore wrote:
> >I have (1) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk
> >available. This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a
> >few times  to test a customers new prototype product at work. I am
> >selling this disk for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I
> >also have (1) 85 Meg PCMCIA  Type ATA II Sandisk available. I am
> (snip)
> >I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address
> >Scott Moore
> >20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> >Beaverton, Or 97006
> (snip)
> >The response on our group has been really terrific and the people I have
> >worked with have been just great!  Thanks alot!    Scott
> (snip)
>
> Please this is a serious inquiry, I think 40-80megs
> will suit my purposes well.  I am a Thaddeus buyer,
> but the difference in price here is remarkable.
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:27:53 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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"T. McCoy" wrote:
>
> I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
> wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
> the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
> interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
> bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
> before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.
>

It is an `ad' which appears regularly, and given this newsgroup there
would likely be objection to it if it were not for the fact that
apparently the products and prices are both so good that people
regard it as almost a `service'.

AFAIK, It is safe to say that (1) lots of deals have been made; (2) only a very
few involved a `hitch' of any kind; and (3) apparently these were all dealt
with to the satisfaction of those involved.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:06:09 +1200
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              John <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
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Hi Don
This "YOPI" is an amazing technology leap being 206mHz colour at only
62% of the size of a 200LX - yes its a pity about the lack of keyboard
and sure the battery life will be daily rather than weekly recharge.

If that Mobile ARM-Linux OS software proves to be better than CE
(shouldnt be too hard) and there is a good database software there may
be a few LX'ers switching...

Cheers
John

Don Chow wrote:
>
> Have you folks seen this one?  The "YOPY" Linux PDA has:
> 4" TFT colour LCD & backlight
> 206 MHz 32-bit ARM RISC CPU
> 32 MB RAM
> Mobile Linux OS
> Embedded browser & email client
> CF slot
> MP3 Player !!
> 4 Mbps IrDA transceiver
> RS232C & USB port
> 1400mA rechargeable LiIon battery
> stylus & handwriting recognition
> etc.
> etc.
>
> have a look at <http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/>
> and <http://www.gicom.de/yopy/>
>
> It's apparently slated for release this summer, at around $500(!)
> It's another keyboardless-device, so it looks like it'd be a nice thing
> to connect to, perhaps via the LX's IR or serial port, or for file transfer
> using CF.  Since it also lacks a PCMCIA slot, but has many desirable and
> wished-for features not found in the LX, it's interesting to think about how
> the two devices might complement rather than replace each other.
> Team 200LX, Vancouver

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:28:56 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash Disk, etc..(Scott Moore)
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I can't speak for the compact flash but I've ordered twice from
Scott Moore without any problems.

Cheers... Russ

T. McCoy wrote:
> I've seen this ad pop up frequently on the list, and the
> wording (correct me if I'm wrong) always seems to be
> the same, as if it's a robot generated repeater.. Being
> interested in buying a mid-sized card, I'd like to hear a
> bit of feedback from a few actual customers (or other)
> before I drop my hard-earned cash in the mail.
>
> At 09:43 AM 4/29/00 -0700, Scott Moore wrote:
> >I have (1) 48 Meg  name brand Simple Technologies  Compact Flash disk

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:20:49 +0600
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I also bought the 48mg cf card from Scott.  I didnt have any problems.
I like it because i wanted to get away from running stacker on my machine.


>The 48 meg c.f. card I bought from Scott made life with my
>200lX very nice -- no more swapping those little 20 meg


Tim
Regards,
Tim
--------------------------------------------------
"When you feel lonely, when you feel unwanted, when you feel sick and forgotten, remember you are precious to Him. He loves you. Show that love for one another, for all this that Jesus came to teach us." - Mother Theresa of Calcutta

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:59:27 -0400
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:13:02 +0000 Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
writes:
> Grandview's manual says about 400k is the limit on a 640k system.

Do you know what to do when you reach that?  I think there is a file
linking command, but I don't yet understand it.   Also, I do believe
the limit is the combination of open files in memory, not just one file.

Domingo

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:12:12 -0400
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:16:01 -0700 Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
writes:

> You don't want FW for just the outlining ... it's overkill.  I've
> never used the other two, so I can't comment.
>
> - Longden

Hi Longden.  I know you posted some about this already, but could you
comment some more about the paradigm of Frameworks, and why
you think it's so great for your purposes?

TIA

Domingo

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:00:01 +0000 Don Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
writes:
> Does anyone know the maximum file sizes for Grandview, Framework, and
> InfoSelect?


InfoSelect has a theoretical limit of 32 megs, but I don't know how that
would work
since the file is loaded into memory.   My larges file was 200k, before I
splitted it.
Now my largest is 85k.   The largest window size is 32k.

I don't have the manual handy, so someone else migh be able to explain
the
32 meg thing better than me.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:07:34 -0500 Hal Goldstein
<hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> writes:
> From: Domingo
>
> <<By the way, do you sell keyboard layouts for the hp200lx?
> I am looking for blanks and WordPerfect>>
>
> I am not sure exactly what you mean -- but in any case we don't sell
> them.

I used the wrong word.  They are keyboard templates, made of cardboard
usually.  You don't see those much with Windows machines if at all,
but there were many produced for DOS programs.  They fit over the
function keys, and have printed commands for a program above and below
the keys.  A now defunct company sold them for the hplx.  I don't know
who
made them.   My desktop pc at work has a template for WordPerfect for
DOS.   I have seen them for all the major DOS programs (Lotus 123,
MsWorks, Dbase, Paradox, and so on), but not much anymore.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:07 -0700 Michael McCann
<michael@SPORTSFUNDS.COM> writes:
> MaxThink is a great program in many ways, but it is limited vis-a-vis
> Grandview in that it doesn't allow colums (a big plus for us Ecco
> orphans)

I am not yet sure of the usefulness of the columns, but I sure like
Grandview a lot.
There was no Ecco for DOS ever, was there?

> and is not Y2K compliant.

Grandview is supposed to not be either, but I have not seen anything
wrong yet
(not even with the calendar function).  Do you know exactly what goes
wrong
with Maxthink that is enough not to be able to use it?

> MaxThink is one of several DOS programs Neil Larson wrote several
> years ago,  mostly as a suite of hypertext tools. All of them --
MaxThink,
> Houdini, Thesaur, et. al. -- are good in their own way, but are limited
in
> that they don't interface with each other the way you would expect and
are
> crippled for use a PIM due to the Y2K problem.

I wonder why the site is still up then.  He doesn't have a Y2k disclosure
statement posted.   He seems to be somewhat of a programming rebel.
I wonder if that would extend to the Y2K issue.

> Hope this helps.

It sure does, thanks!

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I made my own for wordPerfect using a color photocopier and
some clear contact plastic tape stuff.

I reduced my official wp5.1 guide and it works fine.  I have
one for 1-2-3 2.3 for dos reduced using a B&W photocopier.

The 1-2-3 I attached to the palmtop the WP51 I carry in my
wallet and place on it when I need it. (Once in a while)

D Dv wrote:
>
> > <<By the way, do you sell keyboard layouts for the hp200lx?
> > I am looking for blanks and WordPerfect>>
>
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Chris,

> Are you in a position to compare it to, say, GrandView?

Unfortunately not.

> Did you get the chance to try before you buy(ed!)?

No. I bought it on the recommendation of someone else. I will see what
I can do in terms of a review over the next week.

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Michael,

I am confused why you think an outliner should be able to act as a PIM?
Additionally Ecco was a Windows, not a Dos product? If you miss Ecco why not try
Zoot - Tom Davis is trying to help Ecco fans as much as possible. Of
course Zoot is a Windows program and doesn't run on the palmtop either.

I have never had a copy of Grandview and so can not compare with it. I
use both the President's Planner add on to Lotus Agenda and Andreas
Garzotto's PIM for my PIM needs on the palmtop. Either of these is head
and shoulders above the functionality of Maxthink for a PIM but neither
of these is suited to idea development/outline development in the
manner that Maxthink is.

I have used Maxthink to develop a number of outlines without trouble
since the beginning of the year but then they do not use dates. I just
tried the date stamp and it gives today as 100/4/29. Perhaps you could
be more specific as to what the Y2K issue is with Maxthink and how it
impacts the functionality of the program?

GaryS

> MaxThink is a great program in many ways, but it is limited vis-a-vis
> Grandview in that it doesn't allow colums (a big plus for us Ecco orphans)
> and is not Y2K compliant.
>
> MaxThink is one of several DOS programs Neil Larson wrote several years ago,
> mostly as a suite of hypertext tools. All of them -- MaxThink, Houdini,
> Thesaur, et. al. -- are good in their own way, but are limited in that they
> don't interface with each other the way you would expect and are crippled
> for use a PIM due to the Y2K problem.
>
> I bought all of Larson's programs when I discovered them and spend many
> enjoyable hours playing with them, even had several terrific conversations
> with Neil, but I no longer use the software.
>
> Hope this helps.
>

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Thanks to you and all who replied to my post.  I am
currently placing an order with Scott (off-list).

>It is an `ad' which appears regularly, and given this newsgroup there
>would likely be objection to it if it were not for the fact that
>apparently the products and prices are both so good that people
>regard it as almost a `service'.
>
>AFAIK, It is safe to say that (1) lots of deals have been made; (2) only a
very
>few involved a `hitch' of any kind; and (3) apparently these were all dealt
>with to the satisfaction of those involved.
>

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Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:26:15 -0700
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> > You don't want FW for just the outlining ... it's overkill.  I've
> > never used the other two, so I can't comment.

> Hi Longden.  I know you posted some about this already, but could you
> comment some more about the paradigm of Frameworks, and why
> you think it's so great for your purposes?

Framework is an integrated package of applications, similar to MS Works, MS
Office, Lotus Suite all of which it precursed.  As such, it's more suited
for developing a report from the start of organizing the research to the
final publication, as compared to a plain outliner, particularly if the
report includes imbedded charts and spreadsheets.

FW uses the outline paradigm to help you organize the elements of the
report, and it's conceptually similar to using Windows Explorer in detail
view with its hierarchical trees to collapse and expand.  Now think of a
single DOS directory as holding all the stuff in your paper ...
spreadsheets, databases, graphs and of course word processing documents.
Each chapter would probably be a sub-directory level, and each file could be
descriptively named such as "Graph of the sales of 200LX's over the last 10
years".  That's what FW is like.  If all the files in the directory were
word processing docs, you'd be better off using any outliner.  The
integration of dissimilar file types is what makes FW exceptional.

Now working with the elements in Explorer or any outliner (moving, deleting,
renaming) is a cinch (as it is with FW), but when your're ready to publish
the results, or want to do global changes in your report, it gets a bit
messier (actually impossible) in Explorer, but not in FW ... since all the
elements are loaded in memory at the same time (yeah, FW juggles
spreadsheet, database, etc all at once ... that's why it can be a pig)...
and all the elements are saved as one DOS file.  The outline gets turned
into the Table of Contents (with page numbers) for printing.

Or alternatively, you can just build an outline of items (brainstorming) as
with any outliner, but the difference is that when your ideas coalesce into
a solid outline form ... with most outliners,  this becomes a plan for
action ... with FW, it becomes the "framework" ... the skeleton, since you
can now go "into" the line items and where you had one called "Spreadsheet
of cost vs profit for D&A", you actually turn that into a spreadsheet.  FW
encourages top-down development... you literally write your textbook
starting from the table of contents (the outline).

If all I had to do were straight word processing, I'd probably never use FW
... word processing based outliners are plenty good enough (and probably
better than FW)... but I made lots of spreadsheets in my time, and it was
always reassuring to have it done in FW where I was able to imbed it in an
outline along with a wordprocessing doc to explain how to use it and the
assumptions.  Or likewise create a simple database and have accompanying
text to explain the fields and where the data came from.  You could do this
without FW, but it would take multiple files.  Conceptually, a FW file is
similar to a downloaded Zip file ... usually with a bunch of readme's and an
assortment of other related files.

That FW has its own programming language (FRED) is also a big plus.
Functions that don't exist in FW can sometimes be developed with FRED (as
I've done often enough).

It lacks the polish of the modern applications, but as they said in their
advertisements, FW is better than the sum of its parts.  I use FW as a
foundation for anything really big, and when the main layout is done, I
export the pieces to Word and Excel for polish ... this sounds like (and is)
a lot of work, but I find that getting the right ideas organized quickly at
the onset is better than trying to do it while fretting the petty details of
the appearance.

However, as I don't this kind of work that much anymore, FW has become less
important to me .. but it's still usually the tool I turn to when the
occasional research paper is needed.

- Longden

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Domingo,

Larson is indeed a programming rebel. He doesn't particularly care what
people think of him and sees the site he built as a quasi-useful relic, in
the way that some people find certain old and outdated textbooks useful.

Somewhere on the site you'll find his number. He never answers the phone but
will always call you back if you leave a message. Like I said, he is a very
interesting guy and says he is working on a Windows version of MaxThink, but
is in no hurry to get it out -- he programs (and hires other programers)
mostly for his own uses -- and has no interest in updating any of his DOS
products.

He claims (I believe him but could never completely figure it out) that you
can make his DOS hypertext programs do almost anything if you understand the
use for each one and employ them in concert -- or rather, contiguously.

I spent about $360 on his software over 2 months in $80 increments and
became quite infatuated with it as I began fitting the pieces together. He
threw in the last two components for free and was thrilled that I was giving
it a go.  A one point, though, when I documented the shortcomings and made
suggestions, he made it clear that his programs are what they are and that
is all they will ever be.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
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Subject: Re: Outliners


> On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:07 -0700 Michael McCann
> <michael@SPORTSFUNDS.COM> writes:
> > MaxThink is a great program in many ways, but it is limited vis-a-vis
> > Grandview in that it doesn't allow colums (a big plus for us Ecco
> > orphans)
>
> I am not yet sure of the usefulness of the columns, but I sure like
> Grandview a lot.
> There was no Ecco for DOS ever, was there?
>
> > and is not Y2K compliant.
>
> Grandview is supposed to not be either, but I have not seen anything
> wrong yet
> (not even with the calendar function).  Do you know exactly what goes
> wrong
> with Maxthink that is enough not to be able to use it?
>
> > MaxThink is one of several DOS programs Neil Larson wrote several
> > years ago,  mostly as a suite of hypertext tools. All of them --
> MaxThink,
> > Houdini, Thesaur, et. al. -- are good in their own way, but are limited
> in
> > that they don't interface with each other the way you would expect and
> are
> > crippled for use a PIM due to the Y2K problem.
>
> I wonder why the site is still up then.  He doesn't have a Y2k disclosure
> statement posted.   He seems to be somewhat of a programming rebel.
> I wonder if that would extend to the Y2K issue.
>
> > Hope this helps.
>
> It sure does, thanks!
>
> Domingo
>
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Couple more things in response to your other questions --

- Ecco was never a DOS program to my knowledge, and I switched back to the
200lx and DOS when Ecco died.

- Columns make Grandview much more than an outliner, giving it the same kind
of three-dimensionality that makes spreadsheets so useful, with the caveat
that it only allows three columns.

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> On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:07 -0700 Michael McCann
> <michael@SPORTSFUNDS.COM> writes:
> > MaxThink is a great program in many ways, but it is limited vis-a-vis
> > Grandview in that it doesn't allow colums (a big plus for us Ecco
> > orphans)
>
> I am not yet sure of the usefulness of the columns, but I sure like
> Grandview a lot.
> There was no Ecco for DOS ever, was there?
>
> > and is not Y2K compliant.
>
> Grandview is supposed to not be either, but I have not seen anything
> wrong yet
> (not even with the calendar function).  Do you know exactly what goes
> wrong
> with Maxthink that is enough not to be able to use it?
>
> > MaxThink is one of several DOS programs Neil Larson wrote several
> > years ago,  mostly as a suite of hypertext tools. All of them --
> MaxThink,
> > Houdini, Thesaur, et. al. -- are good in their own way, but are limited
> in
> > that they don't interface with each other the way you would expect and
> are
> > crippled for use a PIM due to the Y2K problem.
>
> I wonder why the site is still up then.  He doesn't have a Y2k disclosure
> statement posted.   He seems to be somewhat of a programming rebel.
> I wonder if that would extend to the Y2K issue.
>
> > Hope this helps.
>
> It sure does, thanks!
>
> Domingo
>

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Gary,

I use Grandview as a PIM because I like to do all my thinking in one place,
and it is the only DOS program I have found that allows me to do that on the
200lx.

In a limited way, Grandview will do many of the same things Agenda does. It
has an auto-associative categorizing capability and each outline you create
can be considered a "view" in the sense that different column configurations
are possible and hypertext links may easily be created between outlines.

However, items entered into one outline do not automatically become
available in an other, so each outline is really more like an Agenda app
than a view. There is a clone feature that allows for the same item to
appear in other outlines and reflect any updates or changes made to that
item in all of them -- a feature derived, I believe, from a poorly developed
option of MaxThink.

In fact, Symantic clearly spent some time with MaxThink before putting
Grandview together, because it uses the best of the concepts Neil Larson
developed and even includes the ability to import from and export to
MaxThink.

The idea behind using Grandview as both an outliner and a PIM is not unlike
that of using Agenda -- the focus is on the development of ideas, rather
than the tracking of daily info in a cool PIM. You sacrafice some of the
slicker calendar, ToDo and contact features, including appointment alarms,
but gain tremendously in the area of concise thought development, which was
Larson's original intent in developing MaxThink.

I have also tried PE/PIM and Flexpad; I think they are brilliant programs
and love them both in their own way (I will always check out a new release
of each) but prefer Grandview for now because I am an outline-list-making
thinker and it is far superior in that regard.

Zoot, as you mentioned, is a Windows program. I was an Agenda user at one
point (bought an unopened Version 2 box on ebay ), so I got very excited
when I first tried Zoot, but it seemed to get more complicated and less
intuitive with each incarnation. Either that, or I simply have not devoted
enough time to figuring it out.

Agenda -- the much-revered and mighty King of the category for DOS
users --ultimately disappoints because of its slow performance once 750
items or so have been entered into an app.

InfoHandler is the closest Windows program I've found to Agenda, and, like
Zoot, is still being actively developed. However, its author has noted
(wisely) that a DOS version doesn't make economic sense. Too bad, because a
DOS version of InfoHandler with the addition of Grandview-like outlining
capability and better PIM features, would tempt me away in a heartbeat.

Meanwhile, I remain in awe of Grandview and have a theory as to why it
hasn't yet been offered as freeware: It is Y2K okay, works perfectly fine in
Windows 3.x, 95, 98, and remains sophisticated enough to keep someone like
me from buying any Windows imitation of it that Symantic may develop in the
future.

Michael


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From: GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
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Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 9:05 PM
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> Michael,
>
> I am confused why you think an outliner should be able to act as a PIM?
> Additionally Ecco was a Windows, not a Dos product? If you miss Ecco why
not try
> Zoot - Tom Davis is trying to help Ecco fans as much as possible. Of
> course Zoot is a Windows program and doesn't run on the palmtop either.
>
> I have never had a copy of Grandview and so can not compare with it. I
> use both the President's Planner add on to Lotus Agenda and Andreas
> Garzotto's PIM for my PIM needs on the palmtop. Either of these is head
> and shoulders above the functionality of Maxthink for a PIM but neither
> of these is suited to idea development/outline development in the
> manner that Maxthink is.
>
> I have used Maxthink to develop a number of outlines without trouble
> since the beginning of the year but then they do not use dates. I just
> tried the date stamp and it gives today as 100/4/29. Perhaps you could
> be more specific as to what the Y2K issue is with Maxthink and how it
> impacts the functionality of the program?
>
> GaryS
>
> > MaxThink is a great program in many ways, but it is limited vis-a-vis
> > Grandview in that it doesn't allow colums (a big plus for us Ecco
orphans)
> > and is not Y2K compliant.
> >
> > MaxThink is one of several DOS programs Neil Larson wrote several years
ago,
> > mostly as a suite of hypertext tools. All of them -- MaxThink, Houdini,
> > Thesaur, et. al. -- are good in their own way, but are limited in that
they
> > don't interface with each other the way you would expect and are
crippled
> > for use a PIM due to the Y2K problem.
> >
> > I bought all of Larson's programs when I discovered them and spend many
> > enjoyable hours playing with them, even had several terrific
conversations
> > with Neil, but I no longer use the software.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
>
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Hello!

Can some recommend a good free chess program for my 200lx?

Thanks Yehuda.

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On Sun, 30 April 2000, "Ernst, Yehuda" wrote:

>
> Hello!
>
> Can some recommend a good free chess program for my 200lx?
>
> Thanks Yehuda.

I recommemd Psion. It has:

Many levels (I think like 12)
Hints (suggests a move)
Force computer to move before it's done thinking
Take-back and play-back for all steps of the game.
Save / load game
Setup pieces (to start a game in the middle or practice scenarios)
3-D view (pretty but not as practical as above-view)
Flip view (to look at board from either side)


It plays very well on the LX. If I remember, I trimmed it down to less than 200k - theres the biggish .exe and a couple large .ovl files pluse a handfull of smaller files.

Just remember to invert the screen of the LX or you'll really be scratching your head about why the pieces are set up wrong.

I can't remember where I got it. - I think the nice fellow's site which has win 2.03 and the O.S. Card, Pournelle/Niven, and other novels is the one. I am sure he's on the list and will provide the URL.

Darren.


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This is all very exciting but does it have a keyboard?
Tim

> Have you folks seen this one?  The "YOPY" Linux PDA has:
>
> 4" TFT colour LCD & backlight
> 206 MHz 32-bit ARM RISC CPU
> 32 MB RAM
> Mobile Linux OS
> Embedded browser & email client
> CF slot
> MP3 Player
> 4 Mbps IrDA transceiver
> RS232C & USB port
> 1400mA rechargeable LiIon battery
> stylus & handwriting recognition
> etc.
> etc.
>
> have a look at <http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/>
> and <http://www.gicom.de/yopy/>

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:39:25 +0200
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              =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?=
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Subject:      Re: different ISO codings in headers / post/lx's behaviour
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Hi,

I'm replying to my own message once again, as I got some detailed answers=
 to
my question in de.comm.software.mailreader.

> I discovered that The Bat! encodes my name (because of the German umlau=
t in
> my first name) like this:
>=20
> =3D?ISO-8859-1?B?R/xudGhlciBFaXNlbGU=3D?=3D <mail address>
>=20
> post/lx, outlook express, netscape etc. encode my name like this:
>=20
> =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=3DFCnther_Eisele_?=3D<mail address>

Here is the explanation in my own words: There are 2 different ways to
encode 8bit chars: quoted printable (the Q after 8859-1?) and base64 (the=
 B
in the first from header). Base64 encodes every character, qp only 8bit
chars. Base64 is more efficient for binary data, quoted printable is
recommended by the standard for headers and normal text, as it's still
readable by pure ascii mailclients.=20

I also got the information that the standard obliges mail clients to
decode both encodings, which means as a consequence that post/lx is not
conforming to the standard here.

Luckily I can configure The Bat! to use qp encoding, which lets my from
header look like _not_ coming from Mars ;-)

Bye
G=FCnther=20

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:44:36 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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"Have you folks seen this one?  The "YOPY" Linux PDA has:"

I just heard about 10 minutes ago on NPR that Apple has announced
that their new OS 10 will be released around the start of the 3rd
quarter and will be an entirely new OS with an entirely new
interface and underneath will be modelled after unix.

Maybe the world is changing.  Could that be?

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:57:10 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Insurance Come Through!

Thanks to all who gave suggestions and help on and off-list regarding my
stolen 200lx.  The matter was resolved by our adjuster and the check is
on the way.  Thought I'd fill in the details for those who may face a
similar circumstance.

The insurance company was St. Paul Marine and they accepted my valuations
based on the HP website.  I'd pulled the page where HP announces the
discontinuation of the HP200lx and suggests users migrate to the Jornada
680.  I coupled that with a printout of the current list price for the
J680 from the HP page.  After deductible, we're being sent a check for
around $800.

It might be a good idea to print out the press release from HP (search
their site for 200lx) and put it with the file that contains your
purchase reciept and serial number.  It may come in handy and you can't
count on it being on the site forever.

Thanks to all.

Larry

PS - The worst part of the whole incident was that I was without laptop
or 200 so I had to type a 30 page paper on a Compaq C120 (WinCE 1.0).
Suprisingly, it worked quite well for simple HTML though the lack of
macros is an unnecessary pain.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:15:58 +0000
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
Subject:      Re: GrandView, Framework, InfoSelect
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> Subject:       Re: GrandView, Framework, InfoSelect
> From:          ddvteach@juno.com

> On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:13:02 +0000 Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
> writes:
> > Grandview's manual says about 400k is the limit on a 640k system.
>
> Do you know what to do when you reach that?  I think there is a file
> linking command, but I don't yet understand it.   Also, I do believe
> the limit is the combination of open files in memory, not just one file.
>
> Domingo
>
Domingo

The file linking is to enable you to quickly open another outline that you have "linked" to
the current headline.  The effect is to have the item in this outline a step more remote than
a collapsed headline.  They are ready to "goto" and consult or edit and "return" with a click of
a couple of keys.  I haven't had the need to use this feature, but I understand it allows a level of
detail to be kept that you don't wish to be in the printed output of the outline.

It doesn't help if you are trying to handle a larger volume of data, because opening the "linked"
outline requires enough memory to hold it.  If you have that memory free, you still have room in
the original outline.

There is a utility to allow you to open larger documents - called dbsplit it breaks a large file into
as many as 32 smaller files (all of a size Grandview can digest.
Best Regards,
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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:56:54 -0400
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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> you should also check SETCOM at ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/www/setcom.zip

Use ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/setcom.zip

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:04:51 +0200
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              Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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Hallo

The software "Account" from the super site seems to have a bug. I worked the
whole day to add my transactions. Now it tells me "Internal error: 6 in
1030, ACCOUNT is sorry". Fine. It is sorry. The work of the whole day is
lost. There seem to be about 2/3 of the transactions I entered. I don't have
the time to check out which ones are lost.

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:33:20 -0400
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Hi

I just got my Rex-3. I have transferred the Hplx notebooks to the
device. But I do not have the dockingstation and I have to return the
laptop I got tomorrow.

I would really like to know how the Hplx/Rex project are going. The
Hplx is the only pcmcia reader/writer I got now so it would be nice to
update the card with new data..

Regards

--
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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:46:11 -0700
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              Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
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Those of you using mice or other pointing devices, what drivers are you
using?  I have a Logitech mini-trackball but the drivers that came with it
are for Windows & DOS with extended memory.  I'd like to get a Logitech
mouse driver for the LX.

TIA,

Team 200LX, Vancouver

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:27:56 -0500
Reply-To:     Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@bellsouth.net>
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From:         Jack LaRosa <jlarosa@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject:      Re: chess
Comments: To: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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Hi Yehuda

Sunday, April 30, 2000, you wrote to the list:

EY> Hello!

EY> Can some recommend a good free chess program for my 200lx?

Try PowerChess on the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Go to: http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

and do a search on chess.


TIA,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:06:50 -0400
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> Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > you should also check SETCOM at ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/www/setcom.zip
>
> Use ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/setcom.zip

Thanks Avi - I thought I knew the subdir's of DASoft by heart by now
(G).

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:41:20 -0500
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      Re: GrandView, Framework, InfoSelect
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My Infoselect database is about 900K.  The theoretical limit is 32 MB, but
this would be way too slow on the LX.  Infoselect is very fast because it
loads the entire database into memory (does not search a disk
file).  Because of this, you need to have EMS to load larger database
files.  Based on the speed of Infoselect on my doublespeed LX, I would
estimate that 1.5- 2 MB would be about the largest database you could
reasonably work with on a 2X speed machine; half that for a 1X speed
machine.  I am told that 32 MB machines are faster, so maybe they could
use larger database files.

Earlier, I believe someone was asking about how Infoselect works.  You
enter text as you would on a scrap of paper (although these scraps can be
quite large if you like; I think that 32K is the maximum size).  Your
database consists of tens/hundreds/thousands of these scraps.  I seem to
recall that the program refers these scraps as "windows."

To find items, you do a keyword search, and IS will bring up all windows
containing that word.  Unfortunately, to search for multiple words, it is
a two-step process: Search for the first word, then search those entries
containing the first word for the second word.  However, if you are good
about what you search for, you can get a reasonable number of matches and
then just flip through them to find the specific window that has
information you need.

The program also has some other features, such as linking from one window
to another (although I find this interface a little clunky), forms
(useful for multiple entries that have similar formats), printing, and a
number of other things.  Myself, I just use it to search my big database
of random information.  I think its speed and ease of use are the main
features I like.  The ability to use quite large databases is also a plus,
as well as the ability to have multiple databases (but only one open at a
time).  Once my own database gets too gigantic, I may decide to split it
up into smaller, more specialized, files.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:29:30 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Apple's OS 10
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>I just heard about 10 minutes ago on NPR that Apple has announced
>that their new OS 10 will be released around the start of the 3rd
>quarter and will be an entirely new OS with an entirely new
>interface and underneath will be modelled after unix.

OS X *server* has been available for some months. OS X *client* has
been eagerly awaited for the same months. It HAD been announced for
4Q00.

It has TRUE PREEMPTIVE multitasking (which, I am compelled to point
out, has been available in the Amiga's operating system since 1985,
when it could multitask in color with 512K of memory and 1 floppy
drive (!)).

OS X also has memory protection, however, which is a GREAT improvement as well.

>Maybe the world is changing.  Could that be?

Nah,,,,,
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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:12:07 CDT
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Keyboard Drivers

Almost two years ago I heard about a proposed project either here or on
Compuserve to create a device which would allow a regular PS2 keyboard to
be used with the 200lx.  That project obviously never came of anything
and the product remains vaporware.  Almost...

The Happy Hacking Cradle (
http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhcindex.html ) for Palm devices
allows you to drop your Palm in the cradle, hook up any keyboard
(including the rollup keyboard - http://www.man-machine.com/keybrd1.htm )
and type away.  It even has a "pass-through" port so you can still use
the modem when attached to the cradle.

I wonder why an adapter cord or even an internal modification to the unit
wouldn't allow it to be used for the 200lx?  The Palm has a well
documented RS232 port so there probably isn't anything tricky in the
connection.  The only issue would appear to be the keyboard driver.  I
know nothing about such things but wouldn't that be relatively
straight-forward?  After all, its been done for the Jornada and Newton
keyboards.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:26:26 -0400
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              GaryS <garys@IBM.NET>
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Thanks for the summary of Grandview.

> Agenda -- the much-revered and mighty King of the category for DOS
> users --ultimately disappoints because of its slow performance once 750
> items or so have been entered into an app.

The reason I use both Agenda and Andreas's PIM is becuase of speed
limtations of Agenda. I also keep my Agenda files on a flashcard that I
can move between the palmtop and an OB800. That way I can ensure most
of cpu work done by President's Planner takes place on the 800 rather
than the 200LX.

> InfoHandler is the closest Windows program I've found to Agenda, and, like
> Zoot, is still being actively developed. However, its author has noted
> (wisely) that a DOS version doesn't make economic sense. Too bad, because a
> DOS version of InfoHandler with the addition of Grandview-like outlining
> capability and better PIM features, would tempt me away in a heartbeat.

You also forgot to mention that the author of InfoHandler is working on
both import and export of Agenda stf files - an important potential
consideration for many people here.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:32:23 -0400
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Subject:      Re: different ISO codings in headers / post/lx's behaviour
Comments: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_______________?=
          <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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G=FCnther Eisele wrote:
> I also got the information that the standard obliges mail clients to
> decode both encodings, which means as a consequence that post/lx is not
> conforming to the standard here.

Which standard?=20

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Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:28:23 -0400
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              Slammer <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Don,
  There is a new mouse driver on the Super Site. This is a tiny mouse driver
that is supposed to function with your logitech mouse. You can find it at the
Super Site listed as:

Cute Mouse Driver
 http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=ctmous16.zip&URL=http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/ctmous16.zip

Take care,
William E. Blankenship

===Original Message Below===

Don Chow wrote:

> Those of you using mice or other pointing devices, what drivers are you
> using?  I have a Logitech mini-trackball but the drivers that came with it
> are for Windows & DOS with extended memory.  I'd like to get a Logitech
> mouse driver for the LX.
>
> TIA,
>
> Team 200LX, Vancouver
>
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