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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:00:35 -0800
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bob1 wrote:
>
> Jim Dantin wrote:
> >
> > I use Charge-It! by Peniel Romanelli (on the SUPER site) to charge my NiMH
> > batteries. It's freeware and has all the options you need to handle those
> > batteries. You can set much longer fast charge times, watch for the voltage
> > where the battery just won't take any more (2.88v on my machine) and switch
> > to slow.
> >
> > The NiMH batteries take MUCH longer to charge than NiCads. I typically
> > charge for around 18 hours on fast before I reach the peak voltage. You will
> > learn a lot about the battery's charge/discharge characteristics by
> > examining a Battlog graph. Charge-It! also produces a graph during the time
> > it is controlling the HP.
> >
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> Jim!! I have download a copy of charge-it. Do I Load it into the c dir
> or c:\_dat
>
> dir of the 200lx?
>                           Bob Elliott Jr
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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:09:11 -0800
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: HP 200LX UPGRADING
In-Reply-To:  bob1's message of Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:31:27 -0800

bob1 <camba1@pacbell.net> wrote:
> I have an HP200LX 2MB an thinking to upgrade to 5MB or 8MB.
> >From all of you that are runing THADDEUS COMPUTING SUPER SOFTWARE
> CAROUSEL REV 7.0 how much ram would I NEED TO RUN THREE APPS SWITCHING
> BETWEEN EACH OF THEM?? I plan to buy the upgrade and Carousel Maybe
> end of Feb 99 so no hurry in giving your recommendations.

Figure you'll need about 420KB of disk space for the Software Carousel
software installation, plus an amount derived from however much memory
space you need for your work areas.  E.g. I have six work areas, each
552KB, and my swap file takes up 3162112 bytes, which is about 200KB
less than 552KB * 6.

You can set the sizes of the work areas, so if e.g. you know that
some of your apps would be happy on a system with 256KB RAM you could
run them in smaller work areas and thus save on swap file space.

You can also run SC using EMS swap if you have a an EMS driver for
your additional memory.  I haven't tried that, and I doubt it reduces
the storage requirements, although I have read that it makes switching
between work areas faster.

> I would like to hear from the people that 1. has the software 2.using
> it every day(well at least 2-3 x a wk) 3. any bugs (well all software
> has bugs I MEAN MAJOR ONES)

I'm running version 7.00, and the only "bug" I've run across is that
an old appointment resurfaced and beeped at me after I rebooted once.
(Can't remember why I rebooted, but it was something I needed to do
for my reasons, not because of SC problems or other software problems.)
Sorry, nothing major to report.  SC rocks!

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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:57:07 -0800
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              "Mr. Hector" <hectorf@PACBELL.NET>
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Hi,

I'd like to use gdbload to import my pilot phonebook and I need an empty
phone.pdb to put it in. Since I don't have my serial cable yet, (ordered
from Thaddeus last week), I can't make my own empty phone.pdb and transfer
it to the pc to do the conversion.

Would someone be kind enough to send me an empty phone.pdb, please?

TIA,
Hector

PS To all that responded to my simple tech flashcard problem, thank you very
much. I now have the acecard driver but since I don't have any means to put
this file in my lx yet, I can't test. I'll let you know if it worked once I
get my cable.

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size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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like to use=20
gdbload to import my pilot phonebook and I need an empty phone.pdb =
to&nbsp;put=20
it in. Since I don't have my serial cable yet, (ordered from Thaddeus =
last=20
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do the=20
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someone be=20
kind enough to send me an empty phone.pdb, please?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D940243805-01021999><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>TIA,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>Hector</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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all that=20
responded to my simple tech flashcard problem, thank you very much. I =
now have=20
the acecard driver but since I don't have any means to put this file in =
my lx=20
yet, I can't test. I'll let you know if it worked once I get my=20
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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:27:23 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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I was trying to use LX-Dial to dial phone numbers and found out the speaker
volume is too low to really dial well--it worked but not consistantly. Has
anyone considered using a transformer as a voltage doubler to try to get more
volume out of the speaker? The speaker is a simple DC + to ground speaker so to
increase it one should just need to increase the voltage. A transformer would
be easy to connect too just cut the wires going to the speaker and wire it in.
With a doubler it would be possible to get 6, 10, and 16 volts going to the
speaker instead of the present 3, 5, and 8. Any opinions?

John

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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:42:14 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I was trying to use LX-Dial to dial phone numbers and found out the
> speaker volume is too low to really dial well--it worked but not
> consistantly. Has anyone considered using a transformer as a voltage
> doubler to try to get more volume out of the speaker? The speaker is a
> simple DC + to ground speaker so to increase it one should just need
> to increase the voltage. A transformer would be easy to connect too
> just cut the wires going to the speaker and wire it in. With a doubler
> it would be possible to get 6, 10, and 16 volts going to the speaker
> instead of the present 3, 5, and 8. Any opinions?

Well... I know that if you use a speaker with a much lower impedance than
the built-in speaker, the sound is much louder.  That's one way around it.
(Of course, that most likely requires using an external speaker...)

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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:40:05 -0800
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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
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Frank McConnell wrote:
>
> bob1 <camba1@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > I have an HP200LX 2MB an thinking to upgrade to 5MB or 8MB.
> > >From all of you that are runing THADDEUS COMPUTING SUPER SOFTWARE
> > CAROUSEL REV 7.0 how much ram would I NEED TO RUN THREE APPS SWITCHING
> > BETWEEN EACH OF THEM?? I plan to buy the upgrade and Carousel Maybe
> > end of Feb 99 so no hurry in giving your recommendations.
>
> Figure you'll need about 420KB of disk space for the Software Carousel
> software installation, plus an amount derived from however much memory
> space you need for your work areas.  E.g. I have six work areas, each
> 552KB, and my swap file takes up 3162112 bytes, which is about 200KB
> less than 552KB * 6.
>
> You can set the sizes of the work areas, so if e.g. you know that
> some of your apps would be happy on a system with 256KB RAM you could
> run them in smaller work areas and thus save on swap file space.
>
> You can also run SC using EMS swap if you have a an EMS driver for
> your additional memory.  I haven't tried that, and I doubt it reduces
> the storage requirements, although I have read that it makes switching
> between work areas faster.
>
> > I would like to hear from the people that 1. has the software 2.using
> > it every day(well at least 2-3 x a wk) 3. any bugs (well all software
> > has bugs I MEAN MAJOR ONES)
>
> I'm running version 7.00, and the only "bug" I've run across is that
> an old appointment resurfaced and beeped at me after I rebooted once.
> (Can't remember why I rebooted, but it was something I needed to do
> for my reasons, not because of SC problems or other software problems.)
> Sorry, nothing major to report.  SC rocks!
>
> -Frank McConnell
>
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Thanks Frank! I Will take your advice. If I have some trouble with
carousel ie loading.config can I call upon you?
                      Bob

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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:50:05 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Jewish Calendars
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David,

I sure wuld be interested in QTEXT. Hebrew is my native
language. Using it with the palmtop would be great. All I
found was Qtext for windows.

If you can find the HU site URL, I'd be grateful. Thanks in
advance.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:50:00 -0800
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Subject:      Re: TECH: Mains power faster than batteries?
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 > > There's probably a really simple reason for this, but my HP
 > > 200LX runs faster when it's plugged into the mains, than it
 > > does on batteries. It's only really noticeable with
 > > processor-intensive stuff (e.g. graphics), but I was
 > > wondering why this was the case - or is my palmtop the odd
 > > one out?!
 >
 > Mine does too.  I assume its because the AC power supply gives
 > the HP higher voltage and more current reserves than the
 > batteries can supply.

More like because on AC the palmtop's cpu does not go to
sleep (light sleep). This is the "sleep" mode that palmtops
use in between activities that require their attention.
This type of sleep is built in to preserve battery.

In fact, the cpu does not run faster, but you do not
experience the time it takes to crank up to speed. This is
a tiny amount of time, but it accumulates. I believe the
cpu will check this every 1/18th of a second, so that is
probably the amount of time you save when on AC, and if you
apply it to almost every letter you type it can really be
noticeable.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that the chip runs at
the same speed, but the machine is more responsive.

My notebook has a very short time setup to quiesce the disk
(I don't like the sound...) and when I do something it
takes the disk some significant time to rev up to full
speed. This is similar, but for the chip, and of course the
timeframes are much shorter on the palmtop.

You can set up light sleep so it will not happen, but I
would recommend against it, because it REALLY increases the
consumption of the power from the battery. Hope this
helps...

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Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:24:20 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel questions
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Qman,

 > Q: Will leaving a work area running effect battery life with the
 >    palmtop turned off?

The workarea is just one big file contaiing the DOS images.
It will not take more battery or less than any other file!

 > Here is an example: Say I have POST/LX running in work area 2. I then swap
 > back to work area 1, (System Manager) and turn the palmtop off.
 >
 > Would leaving POST/LX running in work area 2 effect the battery?

It should make no difference! Once you turn the palmtop
off, it is off - no matter what the program is... It makes
no difference if you turn it off while the machine's memory
is loaded with DOS Image X or DOS Image Y...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:31:53 -0500
Reply-To:     kgrider@turbo.eng.ohio-state.edu
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From:         Keith Grider <kgrider@TURBO.ENG.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Price of Apex 56K Modem

Mike,

do you have any idea what the current draw of this modem is? Is your associate able to run this modem under battery power?

Thanks for the info.

Keith Grider


Mike Schneider writes:
> Just a quick FYI for those of you thinking about upgrading to a faster
> modem.
>
> I called Mobile Planet last night, and the Apex Rapid Transit 56 kbps
> PCMCIA modem has dropped in price to $129.
>
> The model # is MP520401
> The phone number is 1-800-mplanet
>
> Have fun!!!
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. A work associate uses this modem in his 200LX, and it works great.
>
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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:35:11 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Comments: To: Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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hi,
I bought the same modem 2 weeks ago,
but the cable I have is for a Mac,
could you give me the pinouts of your cable, please?
I need it for changing the connector.
regards
Alain
> 1ea External modem Macronix model maxlite 14.4
>         9 volt or 110v comes with cable and gender changer
>         110 v transformer.
>         Price=$20.00

Hi Alain,

Did you buy it in Australia?  Who was you Source?
and most important what did it cost?

Best regards.....Liam

| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
| e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
| e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 03:09:28 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:09:11 -0800, Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG> wrote:



> You can also run SC using EMS swap if you have a an EMS driver for
> your additional memory.  I haven't tried that, and I doubt it reduces
> the storage requirements, although I have read that it makes switching
> between work areas faster.

Take my word for it EMS makes a big difference. I was running SC from a
1.6MB disk swap file and would have about 600KB or so worth of disk space
left after swapping to another work area.

But after installing EMS (Trimm) with 1.6MB of dedicate EMS and no disk space
used as storage per. SC's setup. I would have 1.05MB worth of disk space left,
instead of 600KB plus the swapping is much faster.

Also before I installed EMS I was unable to open a file in PE while
installed under POST/LX as a external program. PE would run alright.

But if I tried to use İOpen¨ (pick.exe) I'd get:
"Not enough memory to run external program". But with EMS installed it
work just fine. So go figure.

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
İhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:38:11 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
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I'm not sure if someone has already posted this to the list, but
http://wearables.stanford.edu/ has information about a web server the size
of a book of matches.  Not bad considering it's a PC compatible 486/66...
Now all we need to do is bolt one onto the back of a 200lx...

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:05:41 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: TECH: speaker volume
In-Reply-To:  <00146D2D.3146@palmtop.com>> from "John Musielewicz" at Jan 31,
              99 06:27:23 pm
Content-Type: text

> I was trying to use LX-Dial to dial phone numbers and found out the speaker
> volume is too low to really dial well--it worked but not consistantly. Has
> anyone considered using a transformer as a voltage doubler to try to get more
> volume out of the speaker? The speaker is a simple DC + to ground speaker so to
> increase it one should just need to increase the voltage. A transformer would
> be easy to connect too just cut the wires going to the speaker and wire it in.
> With a doubler it would be possible to get 6, 10, and 16 volts going to the
> speaker instead of the present 3, 5, and 8. Any opinions?

John:

Output volume from a speaker is proportional to input power.  Increasing
the voltage with a transformer will not increase the power to the speaker,
just the voltage.  The available current to the speaker would be reduced
so as to preserve the power.    The only way I know to increase the volume
would be to actually increase the power to the speaker, which would require
some kind of amplifier circuit (were you perhaps suggesting a magnetic
amplifier rather than a transformer?), which in turn requires more power
from the batteries, something we try to avoid with these small computers.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:30:11 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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>> There's probably a really simple reason for this, but my HP
>> 200LX runs faster when it's plugged into the mains, than it
>> does on batteries.
>
>  This is because the low power state in between keystrokes is turned =
off
>  while the AC is plugged in.

To be more precise, the palmtop enters light sleep if it is
running on batteries *AND* if keystrokes are intercepted by an
INT16 interrupt, which is done in almost every program.

NOTE: The code to enter light sleep is embedded in the INT16
interupt service routine of the palmtop.

Usually this is no problem, because most programs are
constantly waiting for keystrokes and do a little work after
receiving a new keystroke and then are again waiting. So you
will never remark the light sleep in between keystrokes.

However if a program constantly does something you can see,
like a game or LXPIC in video mode, then you can 'see' the
light sleep as a slower graphic performance. If you don't want
your program to behave like that, you may not use INT16 to
intercept keystrokes, but you have to select a different way
like checking the keyboard buffer 'by hand' for a new key.

I did that in LXPIC. Therefore LXPIC runs at the same speed
with or without the adapter plugged in.

Regards
Stefan

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Mon,  1 Feb 1999 08:59:16 -0500 (EST)

09h10m21s ago ...
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, bob1 wrote:

> Jim!! I have download a copy of charge-it. Do I Load it into the c dir
> or c:\_dat dir of the 200lx?

Hi Bob-

I'm the guy that wrote Charge-It, and it'll run from any directory or
drive that's convenient for you.  It's on drive f: (JAM drive) on my old
100LX, and on c: on the 200LX.  Both have a "charge" directory set up
for it, but that's not necessary

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:28:29 -0500
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Does anyone know if the 200LX is Y2K compliant?

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:35:50 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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As many of you know, I've been playing with a 56K Xircom CM56T modem that came
with a bundle of goodies (battery, modem, auto adapter) for my HP Omnibook 800,
and that modem has been working for me both on the 800 and my 200LX.  However,
the modem didn't come with a definitive spec sheet and so the issue of power
consumption was always in question.

Thanks to Dennis, another poster with the same hardware as I, who's found a spec
sheet buried in the flash upgrade file downloaded for the modem from the Xircom
website, and the figure is 283mA, typical at 5v!

In other words, this baby supposedly uses way too much juice for the LX and is a
potential LX-killer.

Anyone who wants to try this modem in their LX should do so only with the
greatest caution, and be prepared for smoke and flames.

I can't explain why my 2x/6mb LX seems to handle this modem well, but it could
be that the 28k connects and downloads haven't reached "typical" download levels
yet, and that a catatrophe awaits me around the corner.

Fortunately, this modem is primarily intended for the OB800, and my trusty
XJ3144 is still my primary LX modem on the road (I use a pocket modem at home).

Again, THIS MODEM MAY BE AN LX-KILLER...approach it with caution on the LX.

- Longden

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Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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->I was running SC from a
->1.6MB disk swap file and would have about 600KB or so worth of disk
->space left after swapping to another work area.
->But after installing EMS (Trimm) with 1.6MB of dedicate EMS and no disk
->space used as storage per. SC's setup. I would have 1.05MB worth of
->disk space left, instead of 600KB plus the swapping is much faster.

Can anyone explain why there would be more space available?

I have a double speed 32 MB 200LX but have not yet used EMS.  (Just trying
to keep the complication level down!).  Is Trimm what I should use?  Where
do I get it?

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:45:53 -0600
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The HP200LX is generally Y2K compliant.  However the Lotus 1-2-3  (v. 2.4)
@date function does not allow entry of dates after 1999.  It does perform
date arithmetic into 2000 so for example:  @date(99,12,31)+1 will yield a
2000 date but it will not accept a 2000 date within the @date() function.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lusardi <plusardi@MBTA.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:34 AM
Subject: Y2K compliant?


>Does anyone know if the 200LX is Y2K compliant?
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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:57:32 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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You probably have too many phones plugged in to your home service.  Each
phone is "awarded" a Ringer Equivalence value.  The total of the values
of all the phones on a single circuit should not exceed 5.  I'm not
completely sure of the value 5, but I think you might find that removing
several phones from the circuit will bring the dial tone level up to the
threshold that the modem requires.

Phil

<snip>
>But my modem does not recognise the dial tone using either
>my palmtop or the laptop when at home!  I can actually hear
>the dial tone throught the speaker if I turn the sound on
>using the M1 switch on modem initialisation.
><snip>

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:49 -0500
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              Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Rechargeable Alkalines

I'm not sure if the products that Leo and Craig are considering are
from BTI (the owner of the URL Leo mentioned), which produces Renewal.
If they are, my experience with Renewal brand will be applicable.

Renewal brand rechargable alkaline's have about half the capacity of a
cheap NiCd or NiMH.  That capacity grows even smaller with each
charge/discharge cycle.  After fewer than 50 cycles, they're
useless.

Craig Honey asked:
> Documentation with batteries states must use charger specifically for
> rechargable alkalines - I guess this will then present a problem in use
> in 200LX? - Do anyone know?

I haven't had time to dig into the technical pages at BTI's site, but I
did once study over the data at Ray-O-Vac's site:

    http://www.rayovac.com/oem/renew.html

I recall that the special charger is essential, since it operates by
applying short pulses of current, followed by checks of battery
condition (especially temperature).  There is no way I would try
charging Renewals in a 200LX.  Given the delicacy of the battery cover
latch, any battery that can't be charged internally is out of the
running.

The one application I've found for Renewal is in portable radios that
spend more time stored than in use.  The lower voltage and rapid
self-discharge rate of NiCd and NiMH made them unsuitable for this
application, and I was stuck using alkalines.  Here Renewal has made
sense, operationally and financially.

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$400 HP200L 6meg palmtop

Many accessories available for the HP200LX:

170meg HD (with pcmcia adaptor) $150    quan. 1
130meg HD (with pcmcia adaptor) $125    quan. 1
buy both harddrives for $225            quan. 1

Megahertz xjack 28.8K pcmcia modem $50  quan. 5
3Com xjack 56K pcmcia modem $80         quan. 5

A/C adaptor HP original $35             quan. 2
Serial cables $35                       quan. 20
Serial cables + Puma Intelsync.  $40    quan. 20
Serial cable with Ethernet plug  $10    quan. 5
Light clip   $25                        quan. 1
Backlight kit $100                      quan. 10
leather cases & bags $10-100            quan. 10


Portable 3.2gig pcmcia HD for Libretto $275 quant 1
Large Full Size keyboard for Libretto $75   quan. 5

Prolinear 386 palmbook with CGA driver for Windows 3.1 $500   quan. 1
...this is a perfect replacement for the HP200lx
...no more carrrying around the Newton keyboard (built-in)
...no more trying to adapt for a RS-232 or PB25 port (these are
built-in)
...no more buying an a/c adaptor (included)
...no need to get more ram (4meg ram standard)
...no need trying to get a double slot card adaptor (this has 2 pcmcia
slots)
...no need to buy a carrying case (included)
...runs DOS just like the HP200LX
...runs HP200LX applications if you get Palrun

LASTLY So. California ONLY.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:57:48 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon,  1 Feb 1999 13:25:09 -0500 (EST)

04h36m55s ago ...
On Mon,  1 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:

> I have a double speed 32 MB 200LX but have not yet used EMS.  (Just =
trying
> to keep the complication level down!).  Is Trimm what I should use?  =
Where
> do I get it?

Hi Jeff-

I think "Trimm" is a typo for TREMM, Mack's EMS driver.  If you have a
Thaddeus or Times2Tech 32 MB machine, you should already have it.  If
you don't, it's available from Mack's web page (with your password).

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:30:36 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Thanks to everyone who replied about the difference in
speeds between running the palmtop off the mains, and off
batteries. The reason I asked was because it was completely
mucking up a, er... piece of time-sensitive software (OK, I
admit it - a game! All play and no work!) I'm trying to
write in Turbo C++. I've found that by checking for a
keyboard stroke slightly less often, the program now works
at roughly the same speed (I'm using "kbhit()" - if anyone
knows any better method, please let me know!) on both mains
and batteries - with light sleep still in place.

Thanks once again for all the replies,

 -Mike

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:03:26 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:57:07 -0800, "Mr. Hector" <hectorf@PACBELL.NET> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to use gdbload to import my pilot phonebook and I need an empty
> phone.pdb to put it in. Since I don't have my serial cable yet, (ordered
> from Thaddeus last week), I can't make my own empty phone.pdb and transfer
> it to the pc to do the conversion.
>
> Would someone be kind enough to send me an empty phone.pdb, please?
>

Hi Hector,

Just open any phonebook and then İFile¨ İNew¨ give it a name
(pilot) and your done. Your new empty phonebook will be pilot.pdb.


HTH





Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:07:19 -0800
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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In-Reply-To:  bob1's message of Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:40:05 -0800

bob1 <camba1@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Thanks Frank! I Will take your advice. If I have some trouble with
> carousel ie loading.config can I call upon you?

Well, what I gave you before were observations, not advice.  You may
not like my advice, it can be expensive to implement!

Buy as much memory as you can afford.  I'm spoiled rotten, I have a
32MB upgrade (from Times2Tech).

Buy some flash cards too.  Not only do they make convenient backup
storage for your valuable data in the palmtop, if you also have a
desktop or notebook with PCMCIA slots they can be convenient for
software installation too.  E.g. for Software Carousel I copied the
installation diskette to a directory on a flash card using my notebook
PC, inserted the flash card in the palmtop, and ran the installation
on the palmtop from the files on the flash card.  Much easier than
fussing with Interlnk/Intersvr.

TAKE A BACKUP BEFORE INSTALLING SC!  It wants to run a "disk
optimizer" so it will be able to allocate its swap file from
contiguous space (not sure why this matters on the palmtop where the
swap file isn't on rotating rust but oh well).  I had no problems with
this but it is better to be safe than sorry.

All that said, I don't mind if you cc: me to get my attention but you
should probably post to the list, where you will get the attention of
many folks.  My experience with SC has been "I followed the directions
carefully and it worked", so I might not know what to do in the event
of trouble.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:43:59 -0500
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              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      Thanks and info on public Unix shell/Lynx access.

        Hello All,

    Thanks for all the six responses about public access Lynx or
    Unix shell. First, there is <www.rutgers.edu> to telnet to;
    if you only want to surf text-only, no mess with registering.

    A full Unix shell account for free is at <nyx.net>, see the
    <www.nyx.net> for quite strict registering/self-ID process.

    It may be a high-powered web access alternative on the palmtop,
    if you already have an ISP, but want to have a hefty render
    engine (if you browse big-big HTMLs often) instead of limited
    power DOS browsers or save on online time.

                            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

    PS: The news on more V90/56K modems for HPLX are very nice.
    The hardware database initiative was started just the right time!

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:02:01 +0100
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Sorry, list!

I just want to test if I'm able to get mail from the list.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:26:12 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: 56k Xircom Modem

> Just finished a test of that Xircom CM56T PCMCIA modem that came as part
> of an Omnibook bundle from MicroWarehouse.
>
> Still can't find the power specs, but after about 11 minutes of
> continuous file download, it was just barely warm.
>
> I connected at 28800 and downloaded 1,742,246 bytes in 10 min, 45 secs
> which amounts to roughly 21,609 bits per sec.
>

I find this part interesting. If I understand correctly there is some
question of how fast a connection the hp200lx can sustain, even with
the double speed crystal. I see you are testing a 56K modem but you
connected at 28.8K. Has anyone actually connected and transfered a
file at anything over 40K on an hp200lx? If not isn't the idea of
finding a 56k modem that works rather silly. Of course if you just
want something to share with another computer then that makes sense.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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ATX3

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:46:19 -0800
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> finding a 56k modem that works rather silly. Of course if you just

Actually, one of the best things that a 28.8 and above modem gives
you over a 14.4 is improved retraining.  From my experiance, phone
problems (such as your wife picking up the phone) tend to lock up
a 14.4.  You have no choice but yell at her while you redial <grin>.

With a 28.8 and above, the modem will usually recover after she hangs
up the phone and yells back "well how the h*ll was I supposed to know
you're on the computer!" <still grinning>

Now, I don't know how well a 56k retrains since I've never actually
gotten better than a 28.8 connection here in the middle of the woods..

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I am in process of testing various compression programs on the LX as
mentioned some time ago.
For those that didnt get the original post there is a site www.act.by.net
that compares about a hundred compression/packing progs but most are
designed for 386+ computers so I am testing timing/compression of progs that
will run on the LX.  Right now I have changed from PKzip to JAR because of
extra 10-20% compression for my file mix.

At present I intend to check exe,com,ndb,pdb,gdb,wks,avi,doc(memo),txt,pcx
and also the total of D: and post results for all to evaluate.

Are there any other file types that anyone uses on the LX that need testing?
ie what fax formats are used? C source etc.

I was considering DLU (nettamer) , CCMAIL,Quicken, stat from Calculator but
dont have sample files.

TIA

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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>When the work for the IR was done (incomplete at this time,
>working with SH888 still...) something was modified and it
>made the program much much faster. I noticed it myself, and
>Andreas says he knows, but can't figure out what he did
>right this time :-) ... I am not complaining much, as you
>can imagine.


Wow is Andreas trying to get WWW/LX working over IR between
the LX and the Ericsson SH888?  Is he going to persist with it
or is it a "to hard one" ?

Regards
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Hello

Does anyone know which screen driver will work with WP on the 200LX? Is there
on that will accually underline and put bold letters on the screen? Thanks.

John

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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> I find this part interesting. If I understand correctly there is some
> question of how fast a connection the hp200lx can sustain, even with
> the double speed crystal. I see you are testing a 56K modem but you
> connected at 28.8K. Has anyone actually connected and transfered a
> file at anything over 40K on an hp200lx? If not isn't the idea of
> finding a 56k modem that works rather silly. Of course if you just
> want something to share with another computer then that makes sense.

Well, I've download at 96KBps (that's kilobytes, not kilobits) during an
800K download, via the Accton EN2216-2 ethernet card... perhaps there's
some fundamental difference that prevents a PCMCIA modem from getting that
fast, but it should at least be possible...

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Subject:      FS: Pocket Modem

I have the following for sale:

Microcom TravelPorte MNP Class 10 Pocket Modem

It's a 14.4 data/fax modem that is a tad larger than a pack of cigarettes
and will run off a internal 9 volt battery or with the supplied AC adapter.
The cable that comes with it plugs into the back of the modem and terminates
with a female DB9 connector. It's a nifty little modem and looks like a
miniature external modem complete with LED's which show power status, DTR,
off hook, carrier detect, 2400bps, 9600bps 14.4bps and error correction. I
will perform well with the 100/200LX and I imagine that it would also work
with the 95LX (is that right 95LX exeperts?). I'm asking $100 for it or
would consider any amateur radio equipment for a trade for it.

Thanks for allowing me the bandwidth!

73 Jeff W4JEF


    *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Hello

Does anyone know how to mark a message to not be sent yet in post?

Something like a draft message which you are partway through, but you
want to retrieve your messages without sending it.

There could also be other mail messages ready for send, so marking the
box download only will not work.

TIA

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:42:11 +10
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Subject:      Re: FS: 6meg HP200LX, acces., Libretto access,
              & Prolinear 386 palmtop
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Hi,
could you tell me the type of the pcmcia interface of the prolinear,
also, is the screen backlite?
> 170meg HD (with pcmcia adaptor) $150    quan. 1
> 130meg HD (with pcmcia adaptor) $125    quan. 1
> buy both harddrives for $225            quan. 1
>
> Prolinear 386 palmbook with CGA driver for Windows 3.1 $500   quan. 1
> ...this is a perfect replacement for the HP200lx ...no more carrrying
> around the Newton keyboard (built-in) ...no more trying to adapt for a
> RS-232 or PB25 port (these are built-in) ...no more buying an a/c adaptor
> (included) ...no need to get more ram (4meg ram standard) ...no need
> trying to get a double slot card adaptor (this has 2 pcmcia slots) ...no
> need to buy a carrying case (included) ...runs DOS just like the HP200LX
> ...runs HP200LX applications if you get Palrun


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:44:42 +10
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hi,
I was lucky, I paid AU$20 for it (never used)
but the guy had only one.
regards

PS: I'm still looking for the pinouts
> hi,
> I bought the same modem 2 weeks ago,
> but the cable I have is for a Mac,
> could you give me the pinouts of your cable, please?
> I need it for changing the connector.
> regards
> Alain
> > 1ea External modem Macronix model maxlite 14.4
> >         9 volt or 110v comes with cable and gender changer
> >         110 v transformer.
> >         Price=$20.00
>
> Hi Alain,
>
> Did you buy it in Australia?  Who was you Source?
> and most important what did it cost?
>


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:49:48 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I don't have it in front of me, but look at the Newton keyboard file on
S.U.P.E.R.  If it's not there, then search the web for newton keyboards and
200lx or something like that.  There is a file on one of the Japanese sites
that shows how to wire your Newton keyboard connector to match it with the
HP's.  You should be able to back engineer it from there.

hth,

Claud

At 11:44 02/02/99 +10, you wrote:
>hi,
>I was lucky, I paid AU$20 for it (never used)
>but the guy had only one.
>regards
>
>PS: I'm still looking for the pinouts
>> hi,
>> I bought the same modem 2 weeks ago,
>> but the cable I have is for a Mac,
>> could you give me the pinouts of your cable, please?
>> I need it for changing the connector.
>> regards
>> Alain
>> > 1ea External modem Macronix model maxlite 14.4
>> >         9 volt or 110v comes with cable and gender changer
>> >         110 v transformer.
>> >         Price=$20.00
>>
>> Hi Alain,
>>
>> Did you buy it in Australia?  Who was you Source?
>> and most important what did it cost?
>>
>
>
>Al
>Wyn@comcen.com.au
>Melbourne / Australia
>
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> Does anyone know how to mark a message to not be sent yet in post?
>

Well, this message might be an opportunity for me to test.  Go to
View/Outbox and either press F1 for Help and explore it, or possibly
press S (alt-s?) to toggle the send flag on/off.  I will test that as
soon as I finish this message and it is in the outbox! (G)

If I don't come back and edit it - one of the above suggestions probably
worked..... (G)

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Screen Driver for WP 5.1

> Hello
>
> Does anyone know which screen driver will work with WP on the 200LX? Is there
> on that will accually underline and put bold letters on the screen? Thanks.
>
> John
>

I don't think the wp51 dos version every could do that, it wasn't a
wysiwyg but that made it alot faster. It did have a preview mode if I
remember that used graphics mode.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Re: 56k Xircom Modem

> Well, I've download at 96KBps (that's kilobytes, not kilobits) during an
> 800K download, via the Accton EN2216-2 ethernet card... perhaps there's
> some fundamental difference that prevents a PCMCIA modem from getting that
> fast, but it should at least be possible...
>

Yeah but you can't compare the handling of a network card and a
modem, which is really just a serial port. They work differently as
far as interrupts and onboard buffering are concerned. It wasn't
until the 16550 type uarts started being used that you could go much
over 19.2k on any intel box because of interrupt latency. Even with a
16 byte buffer on a 16550 uart the interrupts come pretty fast at
56k, something like an interrupt every 3ms which doesn't leave much
time for processing.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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FWIW, Peter, you're right...I just wanted something to share between my LX and
my Omnibook 800, and the modem was part of a 800 bundle (battery, modem, auto
adapter). I wasn't dredging around for a 56k modem for the LX, but thought to
mention this experience with the Xircom only because another poster had been
casting for 56k experiences.

At 283mA of current however (per the spec), this modem may be too hot for the LX
to handle anyway.

As to the connection speed, I understand the actual speed will depend on the
service downloading the data to the LX. That is, I'd have to be actually
dialling in to a service that provides a 56k connect, and I never verified that
I had done this. Further, the firmware revision on the flash for the modem was
out of date (1.49 vs the current level of 2.0x), and I haven't figured out how
to do the upgrade yet (the upgrade procedure locks up my Win95 machine).

There's a real possibility that I'll just be giving this 56k modem to my son
anyway (and keeping my SimpleTech 33.6k), so I'm not sure how much time I'd like
to commit to upgrading and testing a modem that (on paper at least) is
incompatible with the LX's power requirements.

- Longden





"Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US> on 02/01/99 01:26:12 PM

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Subject:  Re: 56k Xircom Modem




> Just finished a test of that Xircom CM56T PCMCIA modem that came as part
> of an Omnibook bundle from MicroWarehouse.
>
> Still can't find the power specs, but after about 11 minutes of
> continuous file download, it was just barely warm.
>
> I connected at 28800 and downloaded 1,742,246 bytes in 10 min, 45 secs
> which amounts to roughly 21,609 bits per sec.
>

I find this part interesting. If I understand correctly there is some
question of how fast a connection the hp200lx can sustain, even with
the double speed crystal. I see you are testing a 56K modem but you
connected at 28.8K. Has anyone actually connected and transfered a
file at anything over 40K on an hp200lx? If not isn't the idea of
finding a 56k modem that works rather silly. Of course if you just
want something to share with another computer then that makes sense.

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FWIW, I think I mentioned that midway thru one of my download tests (using the
56k modem, but with a 28k connect), I got the "battery low" message (I had
started the test when the batteries were at 2.38v), but after pressing ESC, the
download continued.

Don't know if this is an indication of the retraining you're speaking of, but I
was impressed that it recovered.

- Longden





Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> on 02/01/99 01:46:19 PM

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Subject:  Re: 56k Xircom Modem




> finding a 56k modem that works rather silly. Of course if you just

Actually, one of the best things that a 28.8 and above modem gives
you over a 14.4 is improved retraining.  From my experiance, phone
problems (such as your wife picking up the phone) tend to lock up
a 14.4.  You have no choice but yell at her while you redial <grin>.

With a 28.8 and above, the modem will usually recover after she hangs
up the phone and yells back "well how the h*ll was I supposed to know
you're on the computer!" <still grinning>

Now, I don't know how well a 56k retrains since I've never actually
gotten better than a 28.8 connection here in the middle of the woods..

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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> >
> > Does anyone know which screen driver will work with WP on the 200LX? Is there
> > on that will accually underline and put bold letters on the screen? Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
>
> I don't think the wp51 dos version every could do that, it wasn't a
> wysiwyg but that made it alot faster. It did have a preview mode if I
> remember that used graphics mode.


The display mode that works on my 200LX is Graphics Screen Type
set to "CGA 640X200 2 color" (obtained by selecting IBM CGA) and
Text Screen Type set to "Auto Selected".

Peter is essentially correct, but it *is* possible to select
screen attributes in the setup (Shift-F1) under Display to
represent bold, underline, and other formatting with various
combinations of greys, highlights, and reversed video.

The graphics preview mode works, but just barely on the 200LX.
I don't find it worth using very often.

Ted

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BTI is the company that "leased" the technology for the Renewal batteries.
I understand they also have sold rights to other companies besides Renewal.
The batteries are pretty neat for  long storage/ not real high current
devices.  The 200lx must need a lower output impedance that the Renewal's
suppy.
A buddy of mine (not on list) and I have played with them in the 200lx and
in a few other devices.  The work great in most things, but the 200lx hates
the 'seemingly' fast voltage drop and reports 'low battery' faily quickly.
They are great in CD players and flashlights and I have ran some 'c' cells
in a small radio for a long time now.
I may need to do the 'trial' over again since they have reported an improved
version that came out in '97.  I don't know if the Renewal's have the ECO or
not but I have noticed the new battery package advertise more recharges than
in the past.

JJ

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:08:07 +1100
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I've managed to get minix going on the palmtop in a much simpler way than
that mentioned at www.erols.com/rld/
If you'd like to try it, everything you need is in a ~700k zip file at:
www.southcom.com.au/~tpitman/
it's under the link to "palmtop software"

Here's a copy of the reame file:


MINIX 2.0.2 ON THE HP PALMTOP

INTRODUCTION

This set of files is a very early version of minix for the hp100lx/200lx
palmtop.
The included files will allow you to (some of the time) boot minix from the
RAM disk or flash disk of the palmtop.

BACKGROUND

sometime in 1998, the information on how to boot minix on the palmtop was
posted
on the web at www.erols.com/rld/  The method mentioned was very compilated,
involving reformatting a flash card under linux, installing minix on it, and
using special software to boot it.

With the release of minix version 2.0.2, Minix now has support for using a
large
DOS file as a 'virtual' hard disk.  It also is supplied with a program that
will
boot Minix from the MSDOS prompt.

To get this new version to its current state has taken less than a day,
showing
that it is realtively easy with the new version of minix.  There are still
some
problems, however, that appear to be identical to those mentioned at
www.erols.com/rld  Often the palmtop will lock-up part way though booting,
and
at best only one or two commands can be executed before it crashes.  This
seems
to be somehow related to special interrupts on the palmtop, and can probably
be
fixed.

INSTALLATION

Now for the fun part!  To run minix on the palmtop, you will need about
1.5Mb
free space on your ram disk or a flash card.  Simply coppy the included
files
to a directory, and type BOOT DISK.NEW to start minix.

You should have as much RAM as possible allocated to system RAM (this can be
changed in the setup program in System Manager) and if possible, no drivers
loaded in your config.sys or autoexec.bat file (I found that the Times2Tech
speed driver interferes with minix)

OTHER

That's about it, so far.  I've only used minix information from
http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/2.0.2/index.html to get this up and running.
Anyone who would like to experiment a bit more can get all necessary files
from here.  If you would like any further information, please email me:
tpitman@southcom.com.au

Good Luck!

Tim Pitman

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>You should have as much RAM as possible allocated to system RAM (this can
be
>changed in the setup program in System Manager) and if possible, no drivers
>loaded in your config.sys or autoexec.bat file (I found that the Times2Tech
>speed driver interferes with minix)

Please explain what interference you have found with my driver as I have not
found this to be true and I have been using the DOSMINIX setup for about a
week.  It does the same type of crashes on a speed and nonspeed upgraded
machine regardless of the driver.

I have currently whittled the kernel down by 1/3 and got rid of all the
protected mode stuff to clean up the code for debugging.  No matter what I
try so far in version 2.0.2 it still has the same crashes.  I will probably
figure it out given enough time.

Thanks,
Mack

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>You should have as much RAM as possible allocated to system RAM (this can
be
>changed in the setup program in System Manager) and if possible, no drivers
>loaded in your config.sys or autoexec.bat file (I found that the Times2Tech
>speed driver interferes with minix)

Try using the SPD31S.SYS driver instead of the SPD31.EXE.  It is a little
slower, but is less complicated and intercepts less interrupts.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:33:06 -0800
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Paul Lusardi wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the 200LX is Y2K compliant?
>
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Hi Paul, Bob here

There an write up on y2k in Thaddeus Computing HP PALMTOP PAPER by Ed
Keefe (Editor)
Vol 7,No 6 1998 (nov/dec issue) It should answer MOST of your questions.

I Could fax you the writeup if I CAN GET THADDEUS COMPUTING OK!

             LET ME KNOW  BOB

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:51:10 +10
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hi,
I juste recieved my Accton EN2216-2 card.
when I load op2216 and pd2212 everithing is fine :)
BUT AFTER??????
How to access to a Win95 desktop disk?
how to send data or read email?
please, is there some network user here.
regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:25:15 -0800
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Alain wrote:

> I juste recieved my Accton EN2216-2 card. when I load op2216 and
> pd2212 everithing is fine :) BUT AFTER?????? How to access to a Win95
> desktop disk? how to send data or read email? please, is there some
> network user here.

If you visit my site (www.hplx.net) there are two things that will help
you: the Accton card article, reprinted by permission of Thaddeus from the
Jan/Feb 1997 issue of the Palmtop Paper, and the 200LX Networking FAQ.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:39:28 +10
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Hi david
It's the first thing I did. :)
After an FTP search and a visit on super and the accton site,
I still can't find 2216HP.zip and MSWGCN.EXE
If you have the, I will be verry happy to receive then. :)
best regards
Alain

>
> If you visit my site (www.hplx.net) there are two things that will help
> you: the Accton card article, reprinted by permission of Thaddeus from the
> Jan/Feb 1997 issue of the Palmtop Paper, and the 200LX Networking FAQ.
>
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>


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:42:18 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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I found it but didn't get the web url and it has the Hebrew doc file--the
messages are in english, though. Its version 2.37 about 160k zipped. It seems
like a nice word processor. If people want I can post it to the palmtop.net
site and see if they wsant to post it on SUPER. I found it by going to Alta
Vista and doing a search for qtext+word+processor.

John
__________________________________________

David,

I sure wuld be interested in QTEXT. Hebrew is my native
language. Using it with the palmtop would be great. All I
found was Qtext for windows.

If you can find the HU site URL, I'd be grateful. Thanks in
advance.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:57:06 -0800
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Peter is essentially correct, but it *is* possible to select
screen attributes in the setup (Shift-F1) under Display to
represent bold, underline, and other formatting with various
combinations of greys, highlights, and reversed video.

The graphics preview mode works, but just barely on the 200LX.
I don't find it worth using very often.

Ted

________________________________

Ted

Thanks, I changed my driver. How do you change the greyscales? I get as far as
the attributes screen then I can only change the outline. WP is really nice. I
managed to pare it down to 2 meg. It'd be nice to have something like this in
rom along with Lotus. Has anyone thought of asking Corel for a 200LX specific
text driver? Maybe if we bugged them enough they'd write one. Does anyone know
who to bug at Corel?

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:03:46 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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> I was trying to use LX-Dial to dial phone numbers and found out the speaker
> volume is too low to really dial well--it worked but not consistantly. Has
> anyone considered using a transformer as a voltage doubler to try to get more
> volume out of the speaker? The speaker is a simple DC + to ground speaker so
to
> increase it one should just need to increase the voltage. A transformer would
> be easy to connect too just cut the wires going to the speaker and wire it
in.
> With a doubler it would be possible to get 6, 10, and 16 volts going to the
> speaker instead of the present 3, 5, and 8. Any opinions?

John:

Output volume from a speaker is proportional to input power.  Increasing
the voltage with a transformer will not increase the power to the speaker,
just the voltage.  The available current to the speaker would be reduced
so as to preserve the power.    The only way I know to increase the volume
would be to actually increase the power to the speaker, which would require
some kind of amplifier circuit (were you perhaps suggesting a magnetic
amplifier rather than a transformer?), which in turn requires more power
from the batteries, something we try to avoid with these small computers.

-Chris Lott


------------------------------

Chris

Do you think the speaker circuit is as perfectly matched as that? If I increase
the potential across the speaker won't it cause the circuit to use more current
as long as the battery can supply it and the chip driving the circuit can stand
it? It probably only uses a milliamp now doubling it it would be 2 milliamps. I
orginally thought of just tapping the batteries but that would create a
constant drain at the speaker unless I could turn it off somehow but it would
increase the IE going to the speaker. A logic on/off switch/amplifier to
increase the gain, there's 18 volts at the video, wouldn't be that hard to
build maybe amplifier gate upping the gain to 10 or so and use the + speaker as
one input and the other coming from the video but then I would have to build
some sort of board instead of just glueing on a transformer:-). And solder in a
couple of wires to the board. (and would there be timing problems then??).  Or
use an op amp and try to increase the gain. Problem with both is powering the
circuit. I thought a 2:1 step-up transformer would do pretty much the same
thing as a magnetic thingy (don't know if I could find one small enough) for
the small amount of volume needed since the coils would have a tendency to
store power plus without an external tap the power management would stay the
same since the speaker would still operate according to the built-in
circuit--it would only use power when the speaker circuit is on. And if its too
loud put in a limiting resistor. Probably sound wierd though.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:05:02 -0800
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I was trying to use LX-Dial to dial phone numbers and found out the
> speaker volume is too low to really dial well--it worked but not
> consistantly. Has anyone considered using a transformer as a voltage
> doubler to try to get more volume out of the speaker? The speaker is a
> simple DC + to ground speaker so to increase it one should just need
> to increase the voltage. A transformer would be easy to connect too
> just cut the wires going to the speaker and wire it in. With a doubler
> it would be possible to get 6, 10, and 16 volts going to the speaker
> instead of the present 3, 5, and 8. Any opinions?

Well... I know that if you use a speaker with a much lower impedance than
the built-in speaker, the sound is much louder.  That's one way around it.
(Of course, that most likely requires using an external speaker...)

__________________________________________

I thought about that but I don't want to use an external speaker and have no
idea where a speaker that size could be found ith half the impeadence. I think
its 4 ohms now.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:11:34 -0800
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I thought about that but I don't want to use an external speaker and
> have no idea where a speaker that size could be found ith half the
> impeadence. I think its 4 ohms now.

Almost any regular speaker from a pair of headphones will work to
amplify volume.  I don't know if they're lower impedence, but I know they
short all the power away from the internal speaker, and produce a much
louder sound.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:13:46 +0200
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Hello!

Can I edit my phone list in a regular PC, and convert it into the 200lx
phone list file?


Thanks Yehuda.


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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:45:29 +0100
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi all who wrote something ybout this topic,

Mike Wagstaff schrieb:
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied about the difference in
> speeds between running the palmtop off the mains, and off
> batteries.

Thanks also from me!
Maybe you remeber I posted a message a few days or weeks ago:
"my palmtop slows down if playing sound...".
That's the solution: When running with AC adaptor, it worked fine,
but then I ran the same app. with batteries - and it was
very slow.

I used the command
setit lf
to switch light sleep off, and now it runs fast!

But: How can I set the time of the light sleep timer or the
speed when in light sleep?
The behaviour of my palmtop's speed is different to maybe
one month ago, so I (or something else) must have changed
either the time for switching to light sleep or the speed
of the palmtop when IN light sleep.

THX+GTX
daniel.

The reason I asked was because it was completely
> mucking up a, er... piece of time-sensitive software (OK, I
> admit it - a game! All play and no work!) I'm trying to
> write in Turbo C++. I've found that by checking for a
> keyboard stroke slightly less often, the program now works
> at roughly the same speed (I'm using "kbhit()" - if anyone
> knows any better method, please let me know!) on both mains
> and batteries - with light sleep still in place.
>
> Thanks once again for all the replies,
>
>  -Mike
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:37:19 +1300
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A search on dogpile found mswgcm.exe at

www.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/ftp/ftp/ftp/pub/msdos/net/pcnfsd/MSTCP/

I had no luck finding 2216HP.zip this way.

I have spent two afternoons trying to get my EN2216 talking to
my Win95 box with no joy so would also appreciate any help
anyone can give me also to get this to happen.  The speeds
attainable to backup my LX quickly are greatly desired.

Shaun Gilbert

01h34m45s ago ...
Alain wrote:

> I still can't find 2216HP.zip and MSWGCN.EXE

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:47:45 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:57:48 -0500, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> Hi Jeff-
>
> I think "Trimm" is a typo for TREMM, Mack's EMS driver.  If you have a
> Thaddeus or Times2Tech 32 MB machine, you should already have it.  If
> you don't, it's available from Mack's web page (with your password).

Thanks for the spelling correction Peniel. (:-)



Regards,

Qman...

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İhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:10:02 -0600
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      nettamer questions

Hi list,

I'm just trying Nettamer for sending email. Now I have
a question:

I only want to recieve 'normal' messages by Nettamer,
large ones (for example with attached binary file)
I want to receive with my desktop computer at home.
Is there a filter function in nettamer,
maybe like this one in Goin' Postal where you
can write in a filter file
SKIP IF SIZE OVER 20000
?

And: Is there a funcion in Nettamer for saving a message
in a Text file?
And: Is there a function in Nettamer for saving an
attached binary file on the disk?
OR: Is there another email program for the HP 200LX
which is cheap and has such functionality I need?

Thanks,
Daniel.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:04:53 -0500
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What does minix do?

> I've managed to get minix going on the palmtop in a much simpler way =
than
> that mentioned at www.erols.com/rld/
> If you'd like to try it, everything you need is in a ~700k zip file at:
> www.southcom.com.au/~tpitman/
> it's under the link to "palmtop software"

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              Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
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Minix is a unix-like operating system, kindof the predecessor of linux.  It
does many of the same tihngs that DOS does, but in a different way which
many people prefer.


>What does minix do?
>
>> I've managed to get minix going on the palmtop in a much simpler way than
>> that mentioned at www.erols.com/rld/
>> If you'd like to try it, everything you need is in a ~700k zip file at:
>> www.southcom.com.au/~tpitman/
>> it's under the link to "palmtop software"
>
>
>
>

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>>What does minix do?
>>

Minix is a complete operating system, with lots of software:
c compiler
pascal compiler
games
tcp/ip networking (telnet, ftp, even web browing with a lynx port)
lots more!

it is also multitasking, not just task-switching like system manager or
software carousel.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:03:24 PST
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              Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Subject:      Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile?
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I run several things on night on my Hp 700 LX.

Lxbackup and some batfiles that "Rejams" my jamdrive.

When they are done the hp times out and turn itself off. But if I
connect the acadapter its stays on.

Not a big problem, but I want to be able to turn off the hp either in a
macro or a batfile. Can this be done?



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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:24:40 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Dear friends:
The MagicRam Flashcard I use regularly in my HP200LX
cannot be read any more by my desktop (WIN95). When I put the card
into the Card reader on the desktop, a beep recognizes it, but in Windows
Explorer no additional drive letter appears as it regularly
does with my other card, a Simple Technology 32MB.
Last year I remember a discussion on the List how to force
the desktop to recognize the card. Does anybody still know
the procedure ?
Thanks in advance
Winfried

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:37:39 -0600
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              "Nickum, Roy H." <NickumRH@BV.COM>
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"The HP200LX is generally Y2K compliant.  However the Lotus 1-2-3  (v. 2.4)
@date function does not allow entry of dates after 1999.  It does perform
date arithmetic into 2000 so for example:  @date(99,12,31)+1 will yield a
2000 date but it will not accept a 2000 date within the @date() function."

The description above is not right.  The @DATE() function IS Y2K compliant.
You just have to give it a 3 digit year.  i.e. January 1, 1999 is
@DATE(99,1,1) & January 1, 2000 is @DATE(100,1,1).

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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Oops.  Sorry for my incorrect response regarding the Lotus 1-2-3 date
function.    And just when I thought I was a full fledged "hacker."  :-)
Les
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From: Nickum, Roy H. <NickumRH@BV.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Y2K compliant?


>"The HP200LX is generally Y2K compliant.  However the Lotus 1-2-3  (v. 2.4)
>@date function does not allow entry of dates after 1999.  It does perform
>date arithmetic into 2000 so for example:  @date(99,12,31)+1 will yield a
>2000 date but it will not accept a 2000 date within the @date() function."
>
>The description above is not right.  The @DATE() function IS Y2K compliant.
>You just have to give it a 3 digit year.  i.e. January 1, 1999 is
>@DATE(99,1,1) & January 1, 2000 is @DATE(100,1,1).
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:44:36 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Re speaker volume
In-Reply-To:  <00149295.3146@palmtop.com>> from "John Musielewicz" at Feb 2,
              99 02:03:46 am
Content-Type: text

> Do you think the speaker circuit is as perfectly matched as that? If I increase
> the potential across the speaker won't it cause the circuit to use more current
> as long as the battery can supply it and the chip driving the circuit can stand
> it? It probably only uses a milliamp now doubling it it would be 2 milliamps. I
> orginally thought of just tapping the batteries but that would create a
> constant drain at the speaker unless I could turn it off somehow but it would
> increase the IE going to the speaker. A logic on/off switch/amplifier to
> increase the gain, there's 18 volts at the video, wouldn't be that hard to
> build maybe amplifier gate upping the gain to 10 or so and use the + speaker as
> one input and the other coming from the video but then I would have to build
> some sort of board instead of just glueing on a transformer:-). And solder in a
> couple of wires to the board. (and would there be timing problems then??).  Or
> use an op amp and try to increase the gain. Problem with both is powering the
> circuit. I thought a 2:1 step-up transformer would do pretty much the same
> thing as a magnetic thingy (don't know if I could find one small enough) for
> the small amount of volume needed since the coils would have a tendency to
> store power plus without an external tap the power management would stay the
> same since the speaker would still operate according to the built-in
> circuit--it would only use power when the speaker circuit is on. And if its too
> loud put in a limiting resistor. Probably sound wierd though.

John:

Obviously you've given this more thought than I, and may even have the
advantage of a ciruit diagram of the existing amplifier circuit.  It is
true, that if the original circuit has enough reserve power capacity,
and if you can deal with the impedance matching issues, that you could
utilize a transformer in the manner you described in your original post.
I've read in previous posts on this topic that the built-in speaker is
4 ohms.  I would like to know what the audio driver transistor or chip
is (exact part number) and perhaps see a schematic before I would want
to comment further.  I'm skeptical, but always love a challenge!

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:56:24 PST
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              Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I have several databases built with the Database program on the Hp
200/700. I want to be able to start let us say my "Home inventory
database" from a icon in sysmgr.

Can this be done?



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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:09:32 -0500
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 05:56 AM 2/2/99 PST, you wrote:
>I have several databases built with the Database program on the Hp
>200/700. I want to be able to start let us say my "Home inventory
>database" from a icon in sysmgr.
>
>Can this be done?

Yes, get the program dbl.com from SUPER.

Owen

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:42:02 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      WWWLX and Ethernet
Content-Type: text

I'm going to setup my WWW/LX to work with my ethernet card and LAN
today.  I want to double check something, after reading the documentation.
Am I correct in understanding the following:

The PEER_IP setting in the WWW.CFG file, and the environment variable
REM_IP, both specify the same thing, my gateway?  If this is so, I have
a suggestion for future WWW/LX releases - could we make them have the
same name, and perhaps a more descriptive one, say GATEWAY_IP?  If I'm
wrong, I would appreciate some assitance from those of you who have
already (successfully) configured WWW/LX to work over the ethernet.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:42:03 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: 56k Xircom Modem
In-Reply-To:  <8825670C.000D47F9.00@candle.com>; from Longden Loo on Mon,
              Feb 01, 1999 at 06:24:05PM -0800
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i've experienced a similar situation using some pcmcia modems (the zoom 14.4
comes to mind).  the power consumption of these modems draws a lot from the
batteries and the hp will warn you of low batteries because of this.  to be
sure this is what's happening to you, check the battery level while the
pc card is in the hp and activated and you should notice the drop.

the battery warning message has not caused me an interuption in communications
(so far :), i think the retraining in question is part of v.34's enhanced
error correecting protocols which know how to handle dirty phone lines and
(as mentioned) the occasional family member trying to make a call.

iirc, v.34 should also be able to renegotiate the modem-modem connect speed
on the fly to deal with line conditions. on most modems i've seen, this can
be disabled.

--francois

On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 06:24:05PM -0800, Longden Loo wrote:
> FWIW, I think I mentioned that midway thru one of my download tests (using the
> 56k modem, but with a 28k connect), I got the "battery low" message (I had
> started the test when the batteries were at 2.38v), but after pressing ESC, the
> download continued.
>
> Don't know if this is an indication of the retraining you're speaking of, but I
> was impressed that it recovered.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> on 02/01/99 01:46:19 PM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
> Subject:  Re: 56k Xircom Modem
>
>
>
>
> > finding a 56k modem that works rather silly. Of course if you just
>
> Actually, one of the best things that a 28.8 and above modem gives
> you over a 14.4 is improved retraining.  From my experiance, phone
> problems (such as your wife picking up the phone) tend to lock up
> a 14.4.  You have no choice but yell at her while you redial <grin>.
>
> With a 28.8 and above, the modem will usually recover after she hangs
> up the phone and yells back "well how the h*ll was I supposed to know
> you're on the computer!" <still grinning>
>
> Now, I don't know how well a 56k retrains since I've never actually
> gotten better than a 28.8 connection here in the middle of the woods..
>
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> FWIW, I think I mentioned that midway thru one of my download tests (using the
> 56k modem, but with a 28k connect), I got the "battery low" message (I had
> started the test when the batteries were at 2.38v), but after pressing ESC, the
> download continued.
>
> Don't know if this is an indication of the retraining you're speaking of, but I
> was impressed that it recovered.

I've had this happen a number of times (I don't advise trying for it!)
while using my now OLD xj2144.  Using Lithium AA's.  I think I may
recall actually getting about 3 or 4 warnings during an accis session
and just pressing ESC thinking (praying actually) that I wish this
session would end.  So both the HP and the xjack prove once again, their
resilence.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:59:37 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WWWLX and Ethernet
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Yep... the PEER_IP and REM_IP settings are one and the same.  Plug your
internet gateway IP in here.

Bill


On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I'm going to setup my WWW/LX to work with my ethernet card and LAN
> today.  I want to double check something, after reading the documentation.
> Am I correct in understanding the following:
>
> The PEER_IP setting in the WWW.CFG file, and the environment variable
> REM_IP, both specify the same thing, my gateway?  If this is so, I have
> a suggestion for future WWW/LX releases - could we make them have the
> same name, and perhaps a more descriptive one, say GATEWAY_IP?  If I'm
> wrong, I would appreciate some assitance from those of you who have
> already (successfully) configured WWW/LX to work over the ethernet.
>

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:09:38 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> Yep... the PEER_IP and REM_IP settings are one and the same.  Plug your
> internet gateway IP in here.

And you don't have to have both; one or the other is fine.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:31:50 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Neo Sia Meng <neosiam@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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From:         Neo Sia Meng <neosiam@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Subject:      Re: phone list file
Comments: To: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C3902A744BD06DEA0FABC295"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------C3902A744BD06DEA0FABC295
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

What application do you want to edit it with?

The most direct way is to use the connectivity pack, which gives you the
same interface as you palmtop.

Or you might want to create a comma delimited export of the list, edit
it in other comma-delimited-recognising application (I started with MS
Excel), the convert it back into a comma-delimited file and import it
back into
the phone.pdb format.  The middleman program required will be GDBIO or
GDBDump (I think that's the name).  Both available on the SUPER.

Hope that helps.

"Ernst, Yehuda" wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Can I edit my phone list in a regular PC, and convert it into the 200lx
> phone list file?
>
> Thanks Yehuda.
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    Part 1.2    Type: application/ms-tnef
>            Encoding: base64
--------------C3902A744BD06DEA0FABC295
Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
 name="neosiam.vcf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: Card for Neo Sia Meng
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename="neosiam.vcf"

begin:vcard
n:Neo;Sia Meng
tel;fax:065-2982570
tel;work:065-2965966
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
org:Four Star Industries Pte Ltd
version:2.1
email;internet:neosiam@singnet.com.sg
title:Executive Director
adr;quoted-printable:;;44 Kallang Place=0D=0AFour Star Building=0D=0A;;;339172;Singapore
fn:Neo Sia Meng
end:vcard

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:23 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile? >Not a big
              problem,
              but I want to be able to turn off the hp either >in a macro or a
              batfile. Can this be done?
Comments: cc: mbergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>

Yes. I have got a little utility called 'off.com'.
mail me if you want to have it. I can mail it to you.

GTX
Daniel

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:28 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Beep instead of Topcard!

Hi list!

Sometimes when I start system manager I don't see the
topcard, but my 200LX does a short 'beep'.

If I restart the machine the topcard is visible again.

What could be the reason?

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:12:35 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Icon in sysmgr to start Database with different files?
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:56:24 PST, Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM> =
wrote:

> I have several databases built with the Database program on the Hp
> 200/700. I want to be able to start let us say my "Home inventory
> database" from a icon in sysmgr.
>
> Can this be done?

Yes! There's (2) such programs. But only one comes to mind "SMMX".

HTH

Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:03 PST
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Leslie Cohn asks whether 1-2-3 is Y2K compliant, noting that
the @date function only works up to the year 1999.

If you carry on with the way @date works in years prior to
2000, you will find that it continues to work until the year
2100, when it does indeed break.  @date expects to be passed three
integer parameters for the year,month,and day in question and
returns an integer, which is the number of days since 1/1/1900.
The month and day parameters works just as you might expect; the
year parameter works in a somewhat non-standard way, certainly not
Y2K compliant, but logical nonetheless.  The year 2000
should be keyed in as 100, 2001 as 101, etc... and the function
returns an error only when you reach the year 2100 (key as 200).

Ah well, I guess I'd expect from LOTUS nothing less than yet another
entirely logical way to represent a date, and confuse us in the
process.

Dennis Bell
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     Greetings,

     Has anyone used acrodos with the 200lx? I have downloaded a copy and
     would like to have access to my .PDF files for work as well as the
     acrobat copy of the 200lx manual.

     Any info appreciated!!!

     TIA

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:55:37 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      was Screen Driver for WP 5.1
Comments: To: Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.OSF.4.02.9902012015320.3067-100000@worf.netins.net>

While we are discussing WP 5.1 - an excellent program in my humble opinion
and one I use daily, I would like to ask a question about it on the HP
200LX.

I installed it there a long time ago, trimming the files to a minimum (see
list below) and it works just fine.  However when I start it up, the early
boot screen shows (with WP5.1 box in the middle) and it seems to stay
"stuck" there, until I press F1 (cancel) twice.  Then it opens up normally
and is ready to go.

I now clisk F1 automatically at that point, but wonder why it does that on
the HP.  It is as if it was waiting for something or a file and wont
continue till I tell it to forget about it by pressing F1.

Do others have the same problem?  What could be the problem?

List of files on the LX:

(MACROS       <DIR>      1-25-97   1:50p)
WP       MRS     6072   3-21-94   5:11p
WP       FIL   649175   3-21-94   5:11p
WP{WP}US LEX   363165   5-31-91  12:00p
KEYS     MRS     4800   3-21-94   5:11p
WP       DRS   490104   3-09-92  12:00p
STANDARD PRS     1942   3-21-94   5:11p
SPELL    EXE    56336   3-21-94   5:11a
WP{WP}   SPW    13126   5-31-91  12:00p
WP       EXE   233472   3-21-94   5:11p
STANDARD VRS    30482   3-21-94   5:11p
HPLASIII PRS    70291   7-11-96  12:18p
WP{WP}US LCN       16   8-29-92   9:12p
WP       QRS    17034   3-21-94   5:11p
WP{WP}US SUP     2192  12-28-98  10:57p
WP{WP}   SET     5603  12-29-98   8:53p
FILELIST TXT        2   2-02-99   2:00p
WPHELP   FIL   221328   3-21-94   5:11a
       22 file(s)    2165140 bytes used



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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:23:17 -0800
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:

> I installed it there a long time ago, trimming the files to a minimum
> (see list below) and it works just fine.  However when I start it up,
> the early boot screen shows (with WP5.1 box in the middle) and it
> seems to stay "stuck" there, until I press F1 (cancel) twice.  Then it
> opens up normally and is ready to go.

I get the same problem-- although it works if you hit any key twice, not
just F1.  Another problem I have is that if the palmtop times out in WP51,
or if I turn it off in there, often it will not turn back on-- I push ON,
the screen flashes on for an instant, and then it shuts back off.  I have
to ctrl-shift-on to get out.

WP51 is fantastic, it just has a few little things that could be improved.
Anybody volunteer to write a TSR to fix it all?  (Mack?  <g>)

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:49:01 -0600
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My phone.pdb has 690 entries.  I have 13 subsets.  Some of my subsets work.
Others when selected come back with an error message "File Not Found".  I've
rechecked the parameters and the criteria is valid.  Is database corrupted.
(Is it "garlic time"?) or is there something else wrong.

Les

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:11:28 -0500
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Joe,

Adobe Acrobat for DOS is current in ver 1.1 - and that's the end of the
line.

The only trouble you'll have is with creators of Acrobat files (.PDF) that
are using ver 3.x and higher. They will be creating files in an incompatible
format, due to added features.



Thanks,

Systems Consulting
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Maximizing the results of Information Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
İmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Joseph E Buford
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 1:40 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Acrodos from simtel?


     Greetings,

     Has anyone used acrodos with the 200lx? I have downloaded a copy and
     would like to have access to my .PDF files for work as well as the
     acrobat copy of the 200lx manual.

     Any info appreciated!!!

     TIA

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com

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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: 1-2-3  Y2K compliance
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>The month and day parameters works just as you might expect; the
>year parameter works in a somewhat non-standard way, certainly not
>Y2K compliant, but logical nonetheless.  The year 2000
>should be keyed in as 100, 2001 as 101, etc... and the function
>returns an error only when you reach the year 2100 (key as 200).

To summarize here, I should use 010 for the year 2010, and 050 for the year
2050,
is that correct?

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Subject:      Re: Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile? -Not a big
              problem,
              but I want to be able to turn off the hp either >in a macro or a
              batfile. Can this be done?
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>
>Yes. I have got a little utility called 'off.com'.
>mail me if you want to have it. I can mail it to you.
>
>GTX
>Daniel
>
>d.hertrich@gmx.de
>Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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Please do...but email it to my primaryemail at:

martin@mobilpost.com

Thanks...



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Subject:      Re: Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile? -Not a big
              problem,
              but I want to be able to turn off the hp either >in a mac ro or a
              batfile. Can this be done?

probably sumthin' good for super ?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Bergvill İmailto:mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 4:46 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile?
> -Not a big problem, but I want to be able to turn off the hp
> either >in
> a macro or a batfile. Can this be done?
>
>
> >
> >Yes. I have got a little utility called 'off.com'.
> >mail me if you want to have it. I can mail it to you.
> >
> >GTX
> >Daniel
> >
> >d.hertrich@gmx.de
> >Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
> >
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>
> Please do...but email it to my primaryemail at:
>
> martin@mobilpost.com
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
> --
> Mvh/Best regards
> Martin Bergvill, Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
> Tel:+4776941462
> Mob:+4790199462
> Primaryemail:martin@mobilpost.com
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The only trouble you'll have is with creators of Acrobat files (.PDF)
that
are using ver 3.x and higher. They will be creating files in an
incompatible  format, due to added features.
 -----   end quote ---

Not the only problem.  The Reader for dos requires VGA and 4 meg of
RAM configured as ram not vdisk.
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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:41:36 -0800
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I use Pocket Launcher to do that. It is an .exm file from super.

-----Original Message-----
> I have several databases built with the Database program on the Hp
> 200/700. I want to be able to start let us say my "Home inventory
> database" from a icon in sysmgr.
>

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:37:37 -0800
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-----Original Message-----
List of files on the LX:

WP       DRS   490104   3-09-92  12:00p
If you use wpsmall.drs it will save a tiny bit of space.
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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:22:43 +0000
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1 brand new copy (full retail box) still shrinkwrapped (3.5" disks).

I only have one in hand, but have a line on some more. To set a fair
price I am taking offers - best offer over $25 (plus postage) gets
this one (I gave more for my copy (Upgrade) a couple of years ago)
If the others come in as I hope they will be offered later.

The box is the same size as the Upgrade unit which is what I have
been using on my desktop for the last couple of years to work on
the same spreadsheets files as I have on my 200LX.

Here's what was in the upgrade - (probably the same thing is in this
retail box)

5- 3.5" disks
Registration card and various discount offers and coupons.
Lotus customer support guide booklet (11 pages)
Getting Started  (56 pages)
Quick Reference (40 pages)
User Guide (435 pages)
@Functions and Macros Guide (196 pages)

Please contact me at melancon@microgear.net (new email I'm changing
my ISP) if you are interested or have a question.

Set the deadline as  Saturday Feb 6th.

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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile? -Not a big
              problem,
              but I want to be able to turn off the hp either >in a mac ro or a
              batfile. Can this be done?
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Hi,

I think I've got it from SUPER.

But if it's not there - let Al Kind and me know, then I'll send it to
him.

GTX
daniel.

Ed Padin schrieb:
>
> probably sumthin' good for super ?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Bergvill İmailto:mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 4:46 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile?
> > -Not a big problem, but I want to be able to turn off the hp
> > either >in
> > a macro or a batfile. Can this be done?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Yes. I have got a little utility called 'off.com'.
> > >mail me if you want to have it. I can mail it to you.
> > >
> > >GTX
> > >Daniel
> > >
> > >d.hertrich@gmx.de
> > >Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
> > >
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> >
> > Please do...but email it to my primaryemail at:
> >
> > martin@mobilpost.com
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mvh/Best regards
> > Martin Bergvill, Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
> > Tel:+4776941462
> > Mob:+4790199462
> > Primaryemail:martin@mobilpost.com
> > Mailinglistemail:mbergvill@hotmail.com
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Hi,


> >Y2K compliant, but logical nonetheless.  The year 2000
> >should be keyed in as 100, 2001 as 101, etc... and the function
> >returns an error only when you reach the year 2100 (key as 200).
>
> To summarize here, I should use 010 for the year 2010, and 050 for the year
> 2050,
> is that correct?

No, 110 for 2010 and 150 for 2050!!!
GTX
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:23:17 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> > I installed it there a long time ago, trimming the files to a minimum
> > (see list below) and it works just fine.  However when I start it up,
> > the early boot screen shows (with WP5.1 box in the middle) and it
> > seems to stay "stuck" there, until I press F1 (cancel) twice.  Then =
it
> > opens up normally and is ready to go.


> I get the same problem-- although it works if you hit any key twice, =
not
> just F1.  Another problem I have is that if the palmtop times out in =
WP51,
> or if I turn it off in there, often it will not turn back on-- I push =
ON,
> the screen flashes on for an instant, and then it shuts back off.  I =
have
> to ctrl-shift-on to get out.
>
> WP51 is fantastic, it just has a few little things that could be =
improved.
> Anybody volunteer to write a TSR to fix it all?  (Mack?  <g>)

I got the fix for both of the above problems. I'll post them as soon as
I get my damn desktop backup and running.

But if I'm not mistaken one fix was to use sleepon, and the other has
something to do with the location of your files in setup.



Regards,

Qman...

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To reiterate, ... the @date function works as expected for
all dates in the next century.  All you have to remember is
the year parameter is an integer starting with zero referring
to 1900, 1 maps to 1901, 2 for 1902...99 for 1999, 100 for 2000,
101 for 2001 ... 199 for 2099.

Incidentally, @date gets an "A" for knowing that next year is
a leap year, but it gets an "F" for erroneously making 1900 a
leap year.  This would make the count of days since 1900 off
by one.

Dennis Bell

PS  The built in APPT manager gets it right.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:08:38 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, david.eggins@USA.NET
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From:         David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
Subject:      Post, folders
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Hello

I am using PostLX, and could not find any explicit documentation on how
to make messages automatically go to a folder.  If someone could send
me a copy of the part of the post.cfg file where they automatically
have their HPLX list messages sent to a folder that would be a great
help.

The second question that would answer is  on what field do you check to =
see if it is a
HPLX list email, as it seems that in the non digest option, the
messages come from the originators, not the list itself.

Thank you.

David Eggins.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:24:52 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post, folders
Comments: To: david.eggins@USA.NET
In-Reply-To:  <199902022308.KAA26850@fep8.mail.ozemail.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

İFILTER¨
HPLX=hplx

and here's the important part... you must have a box called hplx (and it's
case sensitive...)

İhplx¨
Alias=HPLX-L
Sep=1
Dir=c:\www\hplx

At 10:08 AM 2/3/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>I am using PostLX, and could not find any explicit documentation on how
>to make messages automatically go to a folder.  If someone could send
>me a copy of the part of the post.cfg file where they automatically
>have their HPLX list messages sent to a folder that would be a great

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:26:56 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post, folders
Comments: To: david.eggins@USA.NET
In-Reply-To:  <199902022308.KAA26850@fep8.mail.ozemail.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Post checks all headers for any occurance of a string you specify. So it'll
find HPLX-L etc...

Mike...


At 10:08 AM 2/3/99 +1100, you wrote:

>The second question that would answer is  on what field do you check to
see if it is a
>HPLX list email, as it seems that in the non digest option, the
>messages come from the originators, not the list itself.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:30:24 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Minix

I finally got to play around with the Minix set-up this evening and all I
can say is "Cool!". Although not stable this is quite an accomplishment.
Sometimes when it asks me to enter the date and time, the keyboard locks up.
Is this what the discussion of the interupts was about? It never ceases to
amaze me what this little palmtop can do!

73 Jeff W4JEF


    *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*


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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:30:31 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Y2K compliant?
Comments: To: Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Dear Leslie Cohn:

 > The HP200LX is generally Y2K compliant.  However the Lotus 1-2-3  (v. 2.4)
 > @date function does not allow entry of dates after 1999.  It does perform
 > date arithmetic into 2000 so for example:  @date(99,12,31)+1 will yield a
 > 2000 date but it will not accept a 2000 date within the @date() function.

Sorry, not quite! try this @date(100,1,1) and
set the width of the cell to 12 to accomodate the numers...

The way Lotus 123 works around the Y2K issue is by using a
serial number for the year, and 2000 is designated as 100,
2001 as 101 etc.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:34:26 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Lotus 1-2-3 & Flash Card "Crash"
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I have designated my "F:\"  drive (on my HP 10MB Flash Card) as the default
drive for saving Lotus 1-2-3 files.  Occasionaly when I go to save a Lotus
file, it crashes and turns the unit off.  I hit the "ON" button and the
200LX  beeps and reboots.  This also happened with a prior 5MB flashcard.
When I designate my C:\ drive, no saving problems.  When I copied files
using FILER, no problems.  Only when saving from Lotus.  There appears to be
no problems with other applications.  Anyone else experiencing Lotus saving
problems.  Or?

Les

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:20:38 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Subset Problem
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Content-Type: text/plain

Maybe corrupted.
Do you have a blank(s)for a record(s)?
Do you get an err msg reading: UNABLE TO READ RECORD?
If so repair by copy and paste lost/missing records.

you gotta make sure you CLOSE the sysapps file before you copy
to back up.  If you want to see diff, look at file in DOS.
Look at file size with file open and again with file closed
you will see a diff in file size.

Semper mobilus
yor pal al.............

>My phone.pdb has 690 entries.  I have 13 subsets.  Some of my subsets
work.
>Others when selected come back with an error message "File Not Found".
I've
>rechecked the parameters and the criteria is valid.  Is database
corrupted.
>(Is it "garlic time"?) or is there something else wrong.
>
>Les
>
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>


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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:03:53 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX
Comments: To: david.eggins@USA.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
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 > Does anyone know how to mark a message to not be sent yet in post?

Go to the outbox (press O) then look for the message. If it
has not been sent, it will have the letter S to its left,
andn ot date or time. Simply press S on that message, and
the S toggle will go out.

Also try pressing F1 (you know, the Help :) ...) and then
search for Send. The second occurence gave me the meaning
of the S being the send toggle.

You can also press Shift F1 and try topic 4 for example,
the List view... Quite instructive. The operative word is
"toggle". Good luck. BTW, you can print the Post/LX help
topics by using DOCIFY.EXE - a nice program, and even has
its own documentation file, named aptly DOCIFY.DOC...

Enjoy.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:13:21 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Subset Problem
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MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thanks Al.  I'll give it a try.

Les
-----Original Message-----
From: al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Subset Problem


>Maybe corrupted.
>Do you have a blank(s)for a record(s)?
>Do you get an err msg reading: UNABLE TO READ RECORD?
>If so repair by copy and paste lost/missing records.
>
>you gotta make sure you CLOSE the sysapps file before you copy
>to back up.  If you want to see diff, look at file in DOS.
>Look at file size with file open and again with file closed
>you will see a diff in file size.
>
>Semper mobilus
>yor pal al.............
>
>>My phone.pdb has 690 entries.  I have 13 subsets.  Some of my subsets
>work.
>>Others when selected come back with an error message "File Not Found".
>I've
>>rechecked the parameters and the criteria is valid.  Is database
>corrupted.
>>(Is it "garlic time"?) or is there something else wrong.
>>
>>Les
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:47:24 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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From:         John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
Subject:      Re speaker volume
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How did you hook a headphone speaker in? The HP speaker is really flat from
what I remember. Did you try doing something like dialing a phone to see if the
thing would do it then?

John

_________orginal message

Date:    Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:11:34 -0800
From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject: Re: Re speaker volume
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I thought about that but I don't want to use an external speaker and
> have no idea where a speaker that size could be found ith half the
> impeadence. I think its 4 ohms now.

Almost any regular speaker from a pair of headphones will work to
amplify volume.  I don't know if they're lower impedence, but I know they
short all the power away from the internal speaker, and produce a much
louder sound.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:36:48 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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Here is a listing of the files I have, it doesn't give me any lockup problems
whatsoever.


 Volume in drive C is Times2_Tech
 Directory of C:\WP51

.            <DIR>     02-01-99   2:11a
..           <DIR>     02-01-99   2:11a
DOC          <DIR>     02-01-99   6:51a
CURSOR   COM      1452 08-05-91  10:31a
FIXBIOS  COM        50 08-05-91  10:31a
GRAB     COM     16449 08-05-91  10:31a
HRF6     FRS     49152 09-25-91  12:00p
SPELL    EXE     56320 08-05-91  10:31a
WP       EXE    229376 09-17-91   2:13p
WPINFO   EXE     10752 08-05-91  10:31a
FONTS2       <DIR>     02-01-99  11:23a
WP{WP}UK LCN        16 06-24-96   6:02p
KEYS     MRS      4800 09-17-91   2:13p
WP       MRS      6072 09-17-91   2:13p
HPLAIIPO PRS     58147 01-24-95  11:30a
WP{WP}UK LEX    386204 08-01-91   3:16p
WP{WP}   SPW     13126 08-01-91   3:16p
WP{WP}UK THS    361690 08-01-91   3:16p
STANDARD VRS     30482 03-09-92  12:00p
WP       FIL    617332 09-17-91   2:13p
WPHELP   FIL    215130 08-05-91  10:31a
FONTS3       <DIR>     02-01-99  11:24a
FONTS4       <DIR>     02-01-99  11:24a
HRF12    FRS     49152 09-25-91  12:00p
TEMP         <DIR>     02-01-99  12:03p
WP51     TXT         0 02-02-99  11:14p
WP{WP}   SET      2883 02-01-99   7:04p
       27 file(s)    2108585 bytes
                     5890048 bytes free

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:14:32 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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From:         John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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No don't have any kind of drawings. I'll see if I can't make one of the
circuit. Do you think that if the voltage is doubled there would be any chance
of blowing the driver chip if the circuit would carry the current? ***Also does
anyone have a used junk 200LX for sale?? Doesn't have to be working. Willing to
pay top buck!!!***

John

_____________________orginal message
> store power plus without an external tap the power management would stay the
> same since the speaker would still operate according to the built-in
> circuit--it would only use power when the speaker circuit is on. And if its
too
> loud put in a limiting resistor. Probably sound wierd though.

John:

Obviously you've given this more thought than I, and may even have the
advantage of a ciruit diagram of the existing amplifier circuit.  It is
true, that if the original circuit has enough reserve power capacity,
and if you can deal with the impedance matching issues, that you could
utilize a transformer in the manner you described in your original post.
 I've read in previous posts on this topic that the built-in speaker is
4 ohms.  I would like to know what the audio driver transistor or chip
is (exact part number) and perhaps see a schematic before I would want
to comment further.  I'm skeptical, but always love a challenge!

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:14:03 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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Date:    Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:16:12 +1100
From:    Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Minix on the palmtop
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>>What does minix do?
>>

Minix is a complete operating system, with lots of software:
c compiler
pascal compiler
games
tcp/ip networking (telnet, ftp, even web browing with a lynx port)
lots more!

it is also multitasking, not just task-switching like system manager or
software carousel.

------Reply Seperator------------------------

What kind of interface does it have? Does it have an icon based one? A command
line? How does it use memory--does it need more than 640k? Do you need to have
expanded or extended memory? Does it have all the programs for it like dos
does? Like could I go out and get a Derive or wordperfect type program for it?
How about Forth? Is there a Forth for it? Can you run dos programs like you can
in OS/2? Sorry for the dumb questions but I don't know anything about unix and
was wondering what it was like.

John

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:51:01 GMT
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              paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT
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Hi everybody,

I have 3 questions about Post/Lx:

1) Is there a way to translate the E-mail messages, downloaded using a
PC and M$ Outlook, to Post/Lx? and back from Post/Lx to M$ Outlook?

2) Is there a way to store some messages (i.e. zipped in a back-up
directory) in order to free up the drive memory (I download all the
messages in my C: drive) and to restore them when I need it?

3) While in Post/Lx, how is it possible to know if a message has an
attachment with it?

Thank You very much,

Paolo from Italy.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:37:10 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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In-Reply-To:  <0014BA90.3146@palmtop.com>>
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> How did you hook a headphone speaker in? The HP speaker is really flat
> from what I remember. Did you try doing something like dialing a phone
> to see if the thing would do it then?

Well, actually, I wired in an external jack and plugged a pair of
headphones (or an external speaker) in there.  I think you're right about
there being no room to fit anything in where the internal speaker is.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:45:39 +0800
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              Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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Subject:      Need Help
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Hi, everyone on the list
I'd been reading this list for several months now. Thanks for all the =
great tips and info.

I'd downloaded a program, but can't run it on my palmtop. I think I =
should first chk with the gurus here before bothering the author (only =
snail mail address is available). This program is a passive/active =
filter design program I found in simtel, it's called filtry20.zip. It =
runs ok on my pentium desk top, but shows "improper graphic card" when =
run on my single speed, 2M 200LX. Is there any way to work around this?=20
=20
BTW, is it possible to read Chinese characters from HV? I found two =
programs ZWCGA and CHV, using these I can read Chinese (GB code). It =
would be nice if I can use it with HV. Any suggestion?
=20
Roger Shea

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PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi, everyone on the list</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'd been reading this list for several months now. =
Thanks for=20
all the great tips and info.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'd downloaded a program, but can't run it on my =
palmtop. I=20
think I should first chk with the gurus here before bothering the author =
(only=20
snail mail address is available). </FONT><FONT size=3D2>This program is =
a=20
passive/active filter design program I found in simtel, it's called=20
filtry20.zip. It runs ok on my pentium desk top, but shows =
&quot;improper=20
graphic card&quot; when run on my single speed, 2M 200LX. Is there any =
way to=20
work around this? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>BTW, is it possible to read Chinese characters from =
HV? I=20
found two programs ZWCGA and CHV, using these I can read Chinese (GB =
code). It=20
would be nice if I can use it with HV. Any suggestion?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Roger Shea</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:21:26 +0800
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              Louis Di Fazio <louisthx@VEGAS.INFI.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Can I turn Hp 200/700 off from a macro/batfile? >Not a big
              problem,
              but I want to be able to turn off the hp either >in a macro or a
              batfile. Can this be done?
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>Yes. I have got a little utility called 'off.com'.
>mail me if you want to have it. I can mail it to you.
>
>GTX
>Daniel
>
>d.hertrich@gmx.de
>Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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I was wondering if I could have a copy of that utility too?

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:05:03 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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your post config file should have these lines somewhere:

İFilter¨
HPLX=3Dhplx


İhplx¨
Alias=3DHPLX-L or whatever yours is...

this text is case sensitive, so make sure the names match...

Have fun...  Mike...

> At 10:08 AM 2/3/99 +1100, you wrote:
>
> >The second question that would answer is  on what field do you check =
to
> see if it is a
> >HPLX list email, as it seems that in the non digest option, the
> >messages come from the originators, not the list itself.
>
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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:16:38 +0000
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              michael.cunningham@DB.COM
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Subject:      A newby with some old questions -
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Hi guys -

As a recent subscriber to your list I have some questions which have probably
arisen before - so pardon me if I cover old ground, but Im imresed at the
quality of responses Ive seen so far - so here goes :

1. As a previous owner of the 95lx & 100lx - I was gutted to discover that the
IR shareware utility "Remote Commander" - doesnt work on the 200lx.  Especially
since I  had learned the setup of several now dead remotes, on my previous PDA -
and was even considering IR window blinds -  is there any IR S/W for the 200lx
worth investigating ?

2. My 5Mb(doubled to 10Mb)  PCMCIA has a subdirectory on it (\DATA) which is
garbage (any access causes DISK ERROR).  The remainder of the disk has been
works fine - for 2years now (lowering the urgency).  Since this is the boot disk
- how do I best sort this out - re-initialise it? It was shipped already doubled
- so Im unsure what S/W to move to C: beofre wiping the disk (if that is the
best action) - can you advise ?

3. Has anyone any views on the HP200lx Back-light upgrades ?  I must confess
this has always been one of my HP bitches and looks interesting!

Michael.

PS : Has anyone noticed that duracell batteries will recharge in the HP200lx
while on deskpower?  I know this is probably bad - but my AA last up to 6months
before needing to be changed (when they drain completely) - it makes all the
PSION & Palmpilot users I work with green with envy ?

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:34:50 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Subject:      chinese fluff
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Roger
do you have twin bridge?
win98 (chinese ver)?

where are you?
Where did you learn chinese?

yor pal al............


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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:37:37 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>is there any IR S/W for the 200lx worth investigating ?
The output of the 100/200LX's IR port is much less than that from the 95L=
X.
When the Users' Manual says that you should put two Palmtop within inches=

of each other for data transfer, it means it. =


>> Back-light upgrades
My recollection is that a few Japanese hardware hackers got a backlit
screen to work but found the battery drain was too great. I also remember=

someone mentioning that the failure rate was too high to be practical. =


>> DISK ERROR...which files to back up before repairing the disk...
In general, back up *all* files before performing a destructive operation=

such as formatting and rebuilding any disk.  If you provide more details =
on
this, you'll probably get detailed help from Stacker or Jam users.  It
sounds like you're not backing up to an external device, right? =


>>duracell batteries will recharge in the HP200lx while on deskpower...
I too was able to coax long life out of alkaline batteries since I used t=
he
Palmtop's external power supply about half the time.  However, I trusted
that the Palmtop was not recharging them.  Occasionally, I'd notice that
the battery indicator was higher  than it had been, but it would drop bac=
k
to it's previous value after I'd run some CPU intensive operation. If you=
r
unit recharges alkalines, it's defective and you could have a real mess o=
n
your hands.

.ed.İPTP¨

PS: David Sargeant has several FAQ's for the HP 200LX available at
www.hplx.net. =

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:37:37 -0500
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>>"improper graphic card" when run on my single speed, 2M 200LX.

The program probably requires a VGA monitor. The Palmtop only supports CG=
A.
If the program uses .BGI graphics, you might be able to make it work.
Usually programs designed with the Borland Graphic Interface will contain=

several .BGI files in the package. If there are no such files, then the
program most likely won't work on the Palmtop.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:51:27 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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From:         Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
Subject:      Problem: Installing EMS with SSCarousel
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Dear friends,
I would appreciate very much advice on the following
problem:
I have installed Super Software Carousel from Thaddeus on my 32MB 2x
HPLX, with 9 Work Areas of 547 KB each, that gave a 4880 KB Swap
file (~CAROSEL.TMP) on the C Drive. SSC performs very slowly and hangs =
often
and I suspect that this has to do with swap disk space.
In order to improve on this I have tried to install TREMN, but I
get the message

"not enough memory for Directory Buffer".

What is the problem here: do I have too many directories ?
CHKDSK for the C Drive reports the following:
33 MB total disk space
 5 MB in 2 hidden files
0.05 MB in 41 directories
17 MB available on disk
1024 bytes in each allocation unit
32671 total allocation units on disk
11394 availavle allocation units an disk

Greatful for help with best regards
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:03:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Problem: Installing EMS with SSCarousel
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>In order to improve on this I have tried to install TREMN, but I
>get the message
>
>"not enough memory for Directory Buffer".

This basically means that you are trying to run INSTEMM from System Manager
and not giving it enough memory to complete the task.  It is always better
to run INSTEMM straight from DOS outside of System Manager.  Check what
version you are using also as it should be version 1.3 of the INSTEMM
program and version 1.4b of the TREMM.EXE driver.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:03:58 -0600
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              Arthur Hu <arthurhu@HALCYON.COM>
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On 1999-02-02 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >Hi list,
   >I'm just trying Nettamer for sending email. Now I have
   >a question:
   >I only want to recieve 'normal' messages by Nettamer,
   >large ones (for example with attached binary file)
   >I want to receive with my desktop computer at home.
   >Is there a filter function in nettamer,
   >maybe like this one in Goin' Postal where you
   >can write in a filter file
   >SKIP IF SIZE OVER 20000
don't know

   >?
   >And: Is there a funcion in Nettamer for saving a message
   >in a Text file?

"s" for save, you can use del key on file path
   >And: Is there a function in Nettamer for saving an
   >attached binary file on the disk?

yes, you save the file, then f1 help tells you which
command does conversion to binary file. It usually works
ok.

   >OR: Is there another email program for the HP 200LX
   >which is cheap and has such functionality I need?

I'm too lazy and cheap to get www/lx, and haven't figure
out pegasus mail for dos yet, even though it's compatible
with my windows email. Nettamer is incredibly clunky and
blows up easily, but it does what I need it to do.

   >Thanks,
   >Daniel.
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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:12:55 -700
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Subject:      slowing down a fast computer

Was is on the HPLX list that I saw a program mentioned to slow down a too
fast computer in order to use programswhich have difficulties with high
speed computers. My spellchecker SS does not work with my new setup.

A bus station is where a bus stops.  A train station is where a
train stops.  On my desk I have a work station...

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From:         Joseph E Buford <jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM>
Subject:      Reİ2¨: Acrodos from simtel?
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     Also found that the Acrodos on simtel is only for a 386 or better. any
     other options?


     Joe:-{>}


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Author:  systemsconsulting@csi.com at mime
Date:    2/2/99 12:11 PM


Joe,

Adobe Acrobat for DOS is current in ver 1.1 - and that's the end of the
line.

The only trouble you'll have is with creators of Acrobat files (.PDF) that
are using ver 3.x and higher. They will be creating files in an incompatible
format, due to added features.



Thanks,

Systems Consulting
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tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
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President
Maximizing the results of Information Systems


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     Greetings,

     Has anyone used acrodos with the 200lx? I have downloaded a copy and
     would like to have access to my .PDF files for work as well as the
     acrobat copy of the 200lx manual.

     Any info appreciated!!!

     TIA

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com

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>    >OR: Is there another email program for the HP 200LX
>    >which is cheap and has such functionality I need?
>
> I'm too lazy and cheap to get www/lx, and haven't figure
> out pegasus mail for dos yet, even though it's compatible
> with my windows email. Nettamer is incredibly clunky and
> blows up easily, but it does what I need it to do.

Just to toot my own horn, you might give my Goin' Postal mailer
a try.  Toot toot :-)

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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Winfried,

Hopefully you found the copy of SIZER.WK1 in the SSCar CD and have used i=
t
to calculate the best size for the swap file. Did you get a copy of the
printed manual with the CD? If the manual doesn't answer all your
questions, please let me know.
Be glad to help, if I can.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:15:10 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      WWW/LX and Ethernet
Content-Type: text

Just wanted to report that my WWW/LX setup for ethernet works just great!
I did just what the manual says, and (surprise!) it works.  Amazing...
This will probably change the way I use WWW/LX from now on (previously
it was mainly used on travel).

-Chris

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Oops... I may have spoken too soon regarding the success of WWW/LX and
Ethernet.  I have only been able to get it to work the first time I
tried it.  Every subsequent attempt has failed, even after completely
rebooting.  I can't figure it out!  It was great while it worked...

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:31:15 -0700
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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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I was just curious to know if anyone has had success using the
DHCP client found on SUPER. If so, what's being used as your DHCP
server?

TIA!
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Patrick West writes:
> -----Original Message-----
> List of files on the LX:
>
> WP       DRS   490104   3-09-92  12:00p
> If you use wpsmall.drs it will save a tiny bit of space.


You must have a 32M palmtop if you call 440k a tiny
bit of space!  :)     WPSMALL.DRS - 48,357

Ted

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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> From:    Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
> Subject: Minix on the palmtop

> I've managed to get minix going on the palmtop in a much simpler way than
> that mentioned at www.erols.com/rld/
> If you'd like to try it, everything you need is in a ~700k zip file at:
> www.southcom.com.au/~tpitman/
> it's under the link to "palmtop software"

     From this and the other responses there seems to be a
fair interest in Minix.  Having given the crashing problem
a bit of thought, I think that someone should get the 200LX
to boot a generic copy of MS-DOS 5.0.  This, if it lasted
long enough, would allow a memory dump to see what the HP
does differntly in the way of interrupt handling.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:49:52 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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HI David,
thanx for the tips,
It's still not working, but, I'm still working on it.
I 'm trying with my laptop.
every thing look good since I try to see a computer on the net or
when I try to do net view.
Do you have to use op2216 and pd2212?
I thought It would be normal to use then before loading the drivers!
regards
Alain
Al
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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:42:17 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> The HP speaker is really flat from what I remember. ...

I don't think the Speaker is a 'speaker'; it's one of those
piezo electric buzzer things.  This choice was for size and low
power reasons but it probably limits what you can expect to get
from it.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:09:59 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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> I'm going to setup my WWW/LX to work with my ethernet card and LAN
> today.  I want to double check something, after reading the documentatio=
n.

...

> wrong, I would appreciate some assitance from those of you who have
> already (successfully) configured WWW/LX to work over the ethernet.

My network uses Dynamic Host Configuration Protocoll (DHCP)
If I run the DHCP prog from www.dasoft.com (look in ftp section under
www) then my hp is automaticaly given all the needed IP adreses.

Thats "plug and play"   :->

      /tomas moberg
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I am trying out different software..

I have installed Moreexm on my Hp700 Lx. It works great. I have also
installed Tasklist to switch between programs. I use Alt+F10 to use
Tasklist.

I have also installed Pocket Launcher on my Hp. The hotkey for this
application is Ctlr+F1.

Well here is my problem:

If I start Pocket Launcher. Exit Pocket Launcher and then try to start
any of the other applications that are in the moreexm.ini
file they will not work. I get some  "pips" which goes like this pip pip
pip (Last one higher than the others) and it does not
launch the application. Only application that will start (which are in
the moreexm.ini) are Pocket Launcher and it "clear" the
screen this time when it launches..

Have any other experienced this problem.

I use Moreexm, mml, Pocket Launcher, Exkey to redirect the Alt+Menu too
ALT+F9 for the 123G and Tesklist.

Can anyone help me? I suspect that this problem has somthing to do with
stacks, buffers, fcbs files in the config.sys??

Thanks in advance...the Hplx list rules!!

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>     From this and the other responses there seems to be a
>fair interest in Minix.  Having given the crashing problem
>a bit of thought, I think that someone should get the 200LX
>to boot a generic copy of MS-DOS 5.0.  This, if it lasted
>long enough, would allow a memory dump to see what the HP
>does differntly in the way of interrupt handling.

I have already determined what interrupts are being used and what routines
they are calling, but it is still taking time to figure out what is wrong.
I have stabilized the keyboard input up to a certain point thru the boot
process by messing with the keyboard interrupt, but it still looks like some
more tweaking is necessary.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:09:37 -0800
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I have a double speed 5 meg 200LX.  I have previously asked how my phone
database could have been screwed up.  I have now finally tracked that
problem down to another problem with the notepad database.  At times my
notes database gives me an error of "insufficient memory" when I enter
the note itself by F3.  I hit return to acknowledge the error message
and the note is left displayed but with tons of screwy symbols all over
it.  I can not edit it any at this point.  If I either hit F10 to exit
the note or reboot the machine directly at that time, the results are
the same.  My note database is fine, but if I had my phone database open
at the time of the error, it is screwed up and unrecoverable as a clean
file.  I can still get into my phone database to read it, but it is
screwed up.  I know that I have enough memory at the time as from the
applications manager (&...) I still show 301k of memory still available
with the note and the phone databases open.  I do not remember if I have
had the "insufficient memory" message in the notes without the phone
open.  I will make note of any more of the errors for that info.  Does
anybody know what causes the insufficient memory error in the note
database when I have plenty?  I also have plenty on the drive space.

Dan Carrington

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All,

I have an HP200lx 2mb Model for sale, it is in mint condition with all
original
manuals and packaging included, as well as an X-Jack 14.4 PCMCIA modem,
all for the low price of $250 + shipping OBO.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks,

Dan Ridenhour
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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:01:08 -0800
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              "Seim, Ellen M" <ellen.m.seim@INTEL.COM>
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I downloaded a fun game - Tiles - for the 200lx and would like
to register it...but the address given in the docs is no longer
valid. (rob@io.com)

Is Rob Tillotson out there on this list?

Or does anyone have a valid e-addy for him?

I'm trying to be a good shareware person, really I am... :¬)

Ellen

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Seim, Ellen M wrote:

> I downloaded a fun game - Tiles - for the 200lx and would like
> to register it...but the address given in the docs is no longer
> valid. (rob@io.com)
> Is Rob Tillotson out there on this list?
> Or does anyone have a valid e-addy for him?
> I'm trying to be a good shareware person, really I am... :¬)

Don't know about a current address, but... He stopped developing for the
200LX about a year (or was it two?) ago. A crying shame... he was working
on some really cool projects.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:41:41 EST
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lotus 1-2-3 & Flash Card "Crash"
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In a message dated 2/2/1999 11:43:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM writes:

> Occasionaly when I go to save a Lotus
>  file, it crashes and turns the unit off.  I hit the "ON" button and the
>  200LX  beeps and reboots.

What type of batteries are you using?  It sounds like your batteries do not
have adequate oomph left to make the write.  Best results are had with either
Lithium single use or NiMH rechargeables.  I used the former for quite a while
& was very happy with them.  Now I use the Times2Tech NiMH's, and am even more
pleased.  (I recharge about once a week, but have an AC adapter at my desk, so
your mileage may differ.)

I know.  You are going to prove me completely out to lunch by reporting that
this happens when you are on adapter.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Thanks for the response. There are only 2 exe files and a text file, one =
for the filter design and the other for printing. So, that means there =
is no way I can run it on my HP200LX.

Roger

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and a text=20
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means there=20
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Hi, Al Chin
I'm a Chinese, live in Hong Kong (tiny little place in South East Asia). =
Chinese is my native language.
Win98? Yes, I do use one at work (English version) and Chinese version =
at home.
I'm just curious if I can use my HP200LX to read some Chinese web page =
off line. Cause if others are reading Japanese, why not Chinese, right?

Roger

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and Chinese=20
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 01:38:57 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Minix is a complete operating system, with lots of software:
> c compiler
> pascal compiler
> games
> tcp/ip networking (telnet, ftp, even web browing with a lynx port)
> lots more!

Of course, whether all of this will run on the LX (and more than one thing
at the same time) is still a very good question, which time will hopefully
tell...

> it is also multitasking, not just task-switching like system manager or
> software carousel.

Has anyone actually had it running long enough (or had it running on a
computer roughly similar to an LX) to be able to tell just how well
multitasking works on slowish equipment, which is the category the LX
falls into (at least a stock 1x speed LX)?


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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:11 -0600
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              Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Does the HP Connectivity Software or Transfile 200 work on a Macintosh
platform?
If not, is there software that does?

Les

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No, neither. Yes, but it has been discontinued. It's called MacLinkPlus by
DataViz, and I've used it for years to back up my HP100 & 200LX and to get files
into them. Probably still copies around somewhere; it was discontinued within
the last year, if I'm not mistaken. Good luck.

Dennis

Leslie Cohn wrote:

> Does the HP Connectivity Software or Transfile 200 work on a Macintosh
> platform?
> If not, is there software that does?
>
> Les
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Subject:      Re: Trying to register Tiles
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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Seim, Ellen M wrote:
> > Is Rob Tillotson out there on this list?
> > Or does anyone have a valid e-addy for him?
> > I'm trying to be a good shareware person, really I am... :¬)
>
> Don't know about a current address, but... He stopped developing for the
> 200LX about a year (or was it two?) ago. A crying shame... he was working
> on some really cool projects.

Another reason for releasing source code.  If Rob is no longer
supporting the Tiles program, then we should encourage him to "leave a
legacy" for the surviving HP200LX owners and release the source code.

The decision, of course, is totally up to him.  But we can still try :-)

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:06:17 -0600
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              Carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
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arpman cleans out his room and finds these goodies to sell:

    1) Hitachi VC-3130 Logic Analyzer:
        Perfect condition. Never used. Runs perfectly. Comes with multi
cpu attachment board. Will sell for $400, I pay shiping
if its in the U.S.

    2) IBM 355cs laptop. 486slc/8mb ram/color/250mb hard disk, and a
120mb
        replacement disk. Has carrying bag, charger, manuals and disks.
        Runs perfectly, but has a crack in the case, and I just replaced

the four year
        old battery. It's purly cosmetic though, it has no effect on the

strength of the
        case. $250, same shiping rule as above.

If you are interested in any of the items listed, prices are negotable.
Please contact me off the list at either carpman@mailcity.com or
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Bruce (and everyone),

My flashcard now works! Yeheey! You can go ahead and buy your wife a
simpletech card. Funny though, I actually called their tech supp and was
told that only the SRAM cards work with the 100lx. Yeah right!

Just the first night and remaining space is down to 9mb (from 20)!

Many thanks to everyone!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce_Martin@manulife.com İmailto:Bruce_Martin@manulife.com¨
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:06 AM
> To: hectorf@PACBELL.NET
> Subject: Re: flashcard doesn't work - help!
>
>
>
>
> Hector,
>
> The 100LX was developed earlier than many of the ATA flash cards on the
> market today. The only ATA flash cards a 100LX supports, without a special
> driver, are those made by SanDisk and sold under the names SanDisk, HP,
> Epson, IBM, Sun Disk, and possibly others. To use ATA flash cards from
> other manufacturers (like Simple Tech, Viking, Kingston, Pretec etc.) a
> 100LX needs a special driver.
>
> I've attached the AceCard3 driver. Un-zip the file "acecard3.com" and put
> it on your 100LX. Then add the following line to your c:\config.sys
> (assuming you put acecard3.com in a directory "c:\ace"):
>
> device=c:\ace\acecard3.com /sdp
>
> Reboot, and your 100LX should recognize the card.  If this DOESN'T work,
> please let me know ...I'm thinking of buying a Simple Tech card for my
> wife's 100LX and plan to use this driver myself.
>
> Good luck!
> Bruce in Toronto
>
> > I just bought a Simple Tech ATA Flash storage, 20mb. But it
> doesn't work.
> > Filer and dos don't see it. If I go to setup, it says card
> battery is ok.
> >
> > Do I need to do anything special?  BTW, I have a 100lx
>
> (See attached file: ACECARD3.zip)
>

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:10:59 -0500
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Hi all

Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
XJack modem these days?

Thanks

Sean

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:44:23 -0800
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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If memory serves, Rob's hard disk crashed, hosing all his source code and
works-in-progress.  And since he sold his 200LX, that was the impetus for
him abandoning the platform.

But I could be wrong.

Bill


> Another reason for releasing source code.  If Rob is no longer
> supporting the Tiles program, then we should encourage him to "leave a
> legacy" for the surviving HP200LX owners and release the source code.
>
> The decision, of course, is totally up to him.  But we can still try :-)

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Date:         Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:19:06 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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When playing w/my new installation of WWW/LX on my ethernet, I ran into
a problem pointing HV to my church's website.   As I'm the webmaster,
this surprised me.  It appears to me that something
is preventing me from getting to the correct destination.  The link
I would like those of you with HV to check is as follows:

http://faith.presby.org/

Let me know what happens.  I can't figure out if the error I'm getting
is because of our packet firewall or something in HV/WWW/LX.  I would
appreciate your reports.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:15:26 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Dear David,
first thanx for your help.
second, it's still not working

I'm able to connect the 200LX to a Win3.11 laptop, but
only in one way: the LX can read (map) a disk shared on the win311 PC.

I can't connect it to a win 98 PC. (I will see this point later)
Is some one try it?

I can't read the 200LX C: disk from any computer.
In fact I don't know how to share it.
Can you?

regards
Alain

Al
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:20:26 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Oh Yes!

In my company we use NT 4.0 servers with the DHCP server installed. It
works great and since my company has offices all over the world, this is
THE solution! I just walked in to our office in Beijing, China- plugged =
in
the 200LX in the first network connection I found and got my e-mail
which is on a server located in Singapore (5 hours flight from Beijing).

One thing to remember is that you check so you have enough enviroment
space, so after the batch file has set the variables- they are there!
You will get an error message if out of space. But can also check if
it's set, if you jump out in DOS prompt and type "set" (without quotes).

WWW/LX with Post/LX is the way to go!!!

Regards,

Jorgen Wallgren


10h40m17s ago ...
Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM> wrote:

cu> I was just curious to know if anyone has had success using the
cu> DHCP client found on SUPER. If so, what's being used as your DHCP
cu> server?
cu>

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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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> Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
> XJack modem these days?

I still have some aviailable.  If anyone is interested check out:
   http://www.telepath.com/pillar/xjack.html
US only please.

Stan

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> If memory serves, Rob's hard disk crashed, hosing all his source code
> and works-in-progress.  And since he sold his 200LX, that was the
> impetus for him abandoning the platform.
> But I could be wrong.

I heard that it was a disk crash and a fire.

But I could be wrong.

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Are you in Southern CA?
If you are...then I can get these modems for you all day.

My price $40 for 14.4 xjack
         $60 for 28.8 xjack



Sean Hoger wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
> XJack modem these days?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean
>
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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Alain wrote:

> I'm able to connect the 200LX to a Win3.11 laptop, but only in one
> way: the LX can read (map) a disk shared on the win311 PC.

So you can't do that to a Win98 PC?  Does it have NetBEUI installed?  What
clients does it have installed?

> I can't read the 200LX C: disk from any computer.
> In fact I don't know how to share it.

I don't believe it can be shared the other way... but I could be wrong.  I
think, though, that the 200LX will only run the client, not the server.

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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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> > I'm able to connect the 200LX to a Win3.11 laptop, but only in one
> > way: the LX can read (map) a disk shared on the win311 PC.
>
> So you can't do that to a Win98 PC?  Does it have NetBEUI installed?  What
> clients does it have installed?
Yes, it's working when I'm trying with my laptop 486sx/win3.11
My desktop is just a pentium75 with an old isa net card.
Win98 PB or Speed PB
NB: c:> net view \\PCNAME is working some time!!!!

> > I can't read the 200LX C: disk from any computer.
> > In fact I don't know how to share it.
>
> I don't believe it can be shared the other way... but I could be wrong.  I
> think, though, that the 200LX will only run the client, not the server.
I think you are right, because If I start win 3.11 after starting the net (c:>net
start), I receive an error message telling me I will not be able to share any
date (even you can access to the share of another computer).
I think this is equal to the parrameter autostart=FULL/BASIC in system.ini.
I have read that an 8088  (or 8086) can only use the basic (client) option.

at the end (resume)
* the 200LX can access to another PC running win 3.11
* ---------------can NOT access to ----------------------win 98 (not sure, I will do
more test)
*another PC on the network can NOT see or access to the LX

(using NETBIOS)

ouf
a+


Al
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Le Ho Ma!!

Wow! I'm also coming from HK and reading this HPLX-list
every morning.  yeah, and my hp200lx about 5 year old.
In HPLX-list, That many small tips can help me solve my big problem.

My everyday's program:
NoteTaker      Appointments      Phone Book
Filer          vi                HDM
HV             Telix             List
MaxDOS         CGAhlp            Jorj
Ultima III     Buddy

Kung Hei Fai Choi (more two week hehe..)

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Does the HP Connectivity Software or Transfile 200 work on a Macintosh

No.  Not that I'm aware of.  However, if you can run one those
programs that let you run x86 code then you might be able to run
the connectivity software, under Dos, running under the x86
emulator, running on your Mac.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:52:49 -0500
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              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      Un*x on the 200LX recent advancement, Minix v2.0.2

        Hello all,

    As you may remeber, there was a thread about creating Lxix some
    months ago on this list. That died; but Unix-on-LX resurrected
    by now. I would like to tell that Richard Dubs, who first reported
    about Minix crash on LX is still working on MinixLx, with the
    same new version 2.0.2, that Mack uses.

    Let me tell you a few words about Minix: It was written by
    A. S. Tanenbaum, a famed computer OS & network theorist from
    Netherlands. It is recently maintained by his staff at Vrije
    Univ. Minix is an implementation of Posix, available in 16-bit
    32-bit and 32-bit virtual mem. build. 16-bit/tiny is for the LX.
    The 32-bit Minix was used as early cross-compiler platform for
    Linux by Linux Thorvalds. Regular use of Minix is class courses
    held using the book "OS design and Implementation" by AST; this
    book deals with Minix source course and basic OS ideas.
    Minix OS copyright is held by Prentice-Hall, but it is free for
    educational use, can get it right from <www.cs.vu.nl/~kjb/>.

    The 2.0.2 version of Minix, that Mack and others have mentioned
    is a minor update, that hosts a "cheat mode" to use keep using
    Int21h DOS interrupt instead of Minix BIOS harddisk driver, thus
    enabling Minix to run from Win95 V86 box; as originally intended.
    It is also easier to install on 200LX, then regular ver. 2.0.0.

    Richard Dubs sent me these two emails about his recent experiences
    with the newer version of Minix v2.0.2. I quote them here.
    This newer version is very well suited for the HPLX, but the
    unsolved crash problem is still there. Cause is now suspected
    to be use of FlashDisk/PCMCIA driver. So memdisk may help.

    My previous effort for recruiting volunteers failed, as there
    was now way to simplify the first kind of very complicated
    install process. With new Minix version this has changed.
    If you have a 8/32/64 MB machine, you can try out Minix with
    much less pain, all to do is written in Mail#1, Paragraph#1.
    And see, if running from a T2T memory disk eliminates crash,
    or 100LX/700LX/1000CX version behave different, than 200LX.

    If this DOS-under-the-hood version can be fixed to work reliably
    on the HPLXes, then regular Minix with flashcard must be possible
    to patch, too. Then that will open the way for 4-7 other native
    OSes for the palmtop; so it enter the next century on a rock solid
    open multi-OS basis, perpetuating its value to all power users.

                    Sincerely Yours:  Tamas Feher
            **********************************************
    First e-mail:

>I tried KJB's DOSMINIX on my palmtop.  I am sad to report that it had
>the same instability problems as my native approach.
>
>To summarize what I did:  I downloaded the DOSMINIX.ZIP file for
>16bit MINIX, unzipped the file, copied the 40Meg DOSMINIX file to a
>new file and followed KJBs directions for regenerating the file as an
>8Meg DOSMINIX file (I left out the source code and the man pages so
>that it would all fit in 8Meg) then copied the 8Meg DOSMINIX file
>(and some other files from the original ZIP file) onto an empty DOS-
>formatted 10Meg PCMCIA card, and then booted that file on the HP200lx
>palmtop. MINIX would hang at various points in the boot process, only
>occasionally getting all the way to a login prompt (Best I got to
>was two commands past the login prompt). Not really any better than
>what I found in my native approach.
>
>There is one more hope for a simple success. It could be that the
>PCMCIA driver and/or card cannot handle the rapid read/writes from
>MINIX.  If omeone has a 16Meg HP200LX (mine is only 2Meg), they could
>copy the DOSMINIX file to the ramdisk and try to boot from it there.
>Then there would be no PCMCIA card involved in the boot process.
>
>BTW, DOSMINIX is extremely cool on a PC.  No more MINIX partitions,
>bootblocks, etc.  Just put the DOSMINIX file on your DOS directory,
>and boot directly into MINIX!
>Alas, MINIX on the HP200lx continues to alude us ...
>Rich

    Second e-mail:
>At some point I will update my web page with my DOSMINIX experience.
>Doesn't get anyone closer to running MINIX on the 200LX but at least
>they no longer have to go through the headaches documented on my web
>page for a native MINIX file system.
>
>I really don't know why MINIX doesn't run on the LX.  Spurious PCMCIA
>signals (or anything else) are just as likely the problem as my
>suggestion. I did notice that when I booted my 8Meg DOSMINIX file on
>my PC from my hardisk, it booted fine (in real mode) in a DOS window
>in WINDOWS 95; however, when I booted the same DOSMINIX file on my PC
>from my PCMCIA card in a DOS window, it crashed during boot. Of
>course, that doesn't really have anything to do with the problems on
>the HP200 but it is the origin my suggestion to eliminate the PCMCIA
>on the HP200LX and boot from a ramdisk.
>
>It looks to me that DOSMINIX is still MINIX; only the disk services
>from DOS (int 21) are being used. In fact, if more of the DOS
>services were used by MINIX, (and MINIX tried to interact less
>directly with the hardware) we would have a better chance of getting
>it to run on the palmtop! (At the expense of MINIX losing some of its
>identity).

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:55:33 -0500
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              Angi Bemiss <ANGI@REAGAN-ASSOC.COM>
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I recently purchased Greenwich Instruments' GA945-HP from Thaddeus.  I
cannot get it to print my Lotus spreadsheets.  Can someone help?  Have
you successfully printed from Lotus, and if so, what are your specific
settings (inside Lotus or elsewhere)?

It does print fine from PhoneBook.  When I try to print from Lotus, it
seems to send the signal (because the light on my BJC80 starts
flashing), but nothing ever comes out.  I have also tried it with other
printers to no avail.

Also, for others' information, the GA945-HP does not work well with an
HP LaserJet 5L.  I confirmed this with Greenwich.  This isn't too
surprising, tho, since the 5L has also had difficulty with my Dell
Latitude laptop with Windows 95.  (a fact that HP confirms)

Thanks for your help.

angi@reagan-assoc.com

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Date:         Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:57:27 -0800
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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I've run into notes insufficient memory while opening a note also, but it
has
never resulted in corruption.  That's probably because I take a different
tack
when this happens.  First I hit ESC (I think.  Someone stole my 2x8MB!).
Then I quit some apps.  When I reopen the note, all is well.

The lesson appears to be; don't quit notes while in this state.

Wayne

Dan Carrington wrote:

> I have a double speed 5 meg 200LX.  I have previously asked how my phone
> database could have been screwed up.  I have now finally tracked that
> problem down to another problem with the notepad database.  At times my
> notes database gives me an error of "insufficient memory" when I enter
> the note itself by F3.  I hit return to acknowledge the error message
> and the note is left displayed but with tons of screwy symbols all over
> it.  I can not edit it any at this point.  If I either hit F10 to exit
> the note or reboot the machine directly at that time, the results are
> the same.  My note database is fine, but if I had my phone database open
> at the time of the error, it is screwed up and unrecoverable as a clean
> file.  I can still get into my phone database to read it, but it is
> screwed up.  I know that I have enough memory at the time as from the
> applications manager (&...) I still show 301k of memory still available
> with the note and the phone databases open.  I do not remember if I have
> had the "insufficient memory" message in the notes without the phone
> open.  I will make note of any more of the errors for that info.  Does
> anybody know what causes the insufficient memory error in the note
> database when I have plenty?  I also have plenty on the drive space.
>
> Dan Carrington
>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:28:43 -0500
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Thu,  4 Feb 1999 09:23:38 -0500 (EST)

11h04m32s ago ...
On Wed,  3 Feb 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> ...It appears to me that something
> is preventing me from getting to the correct destination.  The link
> I would like those of you with HV to check is as follows:
>
> http://faith.presby.org/
>
> Let me know what happens.  I can't figure out if the error I'm getting
> is because of our packet firewall or something in HV/WWW/LX.

It seems to be some incompatibility with HV-WWW/LX.  I get an error 403
(Forbidden) with WWW/LX.  When I tried with Unix Lynx on my other
account it worked OK.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:37:04 -0500
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              IR220L?
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I'd like to get an infrared adapter to connect to my plain old 1Meg 200lx from
my Linux PC. I *thought* I'd found a good deal with Belkin's SmartBeam unit
(only $25 USD) but it turns out the SmartBeam a) only does 9600 bps, unless you
install special Windows drivers and b) I can't even get it to run at 9600bps
under Linux.

The PDF datasheet for the JetEye 9680 lists Windows as a requirement, yet I know
some folks have gotten older JetEyes to work under Linux. Has anyone gotten the
9680 to work? Will it work at speeds lower than 115200?

Does anyone know of good alternatives? Actisys has one (IR220L, IR220L+) that's
supposed to work at multiple speeds under Linux, but doesn't mention the 200lx
as a supported PDA: http://www.actisys.com/ACT200-220.html

Thanks,

-Peter

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:03:37 -0600
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              MIKE GUMAN <mike.guman@ADTRAN.COM>
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I have a used Motorola Cellect 14.4 PCMCIA modem for sale. Works great with
my 100lx and even allows direct connect to Motorola flip phone with special
cable.

I will let it go for $20 plus $5 shipping. First come, first served.

Mike

> ----------
> From:         zot2uİSMTP:zot2u@earthlink.net¨
> Sent:         Thursday, February 04, 1999 12:35 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Modem
>
> Are you in Southern CA?
> If you are...then I can get these modems for you all day.
>
> My price $40 for 14.4 xjack
>          $60 for 28.8 xjack
>
>
>
> Sean Hoger wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
> > XJack modem these days?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean
> >
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:15:43 -0500
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Un*x on the 200LX recent advancement, Minix v2.0.2
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>    Richard Dubs sent me these two emails about his recent experiences
>    with the newer version of Minix v2.0.2. I quote them here.
>    This newer version is very well suited for the HPLX, but the
>    unsolved crash problem is still there. Cause is now suspected
>    to be use of FlashDisk/PCMCIA driver. So memdisk may help.

Unfortunately I don't think that is the problem since I have been testing it
on a 64MB palmtop and there is no change except for some tweaking I have
been doing to the code.  It is still unstable and I might try to find that
book you referred to so I can get a better grasp of the overall concept and
how it task switches.  I am working on some ideas for debugging it, so it
could take a while.

There will be a lot of specialized work to be done to the kernel to support
the palmtop directly such as the keyboard, the low power state during idle,
the on key, and the timeout process.  Most of those items don't work at all
with the exception of the keyboard which mostly works.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:15:29 -0500
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11h29m25s ago ...
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Sean Hoger wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
> XJack modem these days?

I got a couple a few months back from "ye Olde Penmaker"

John Guenther jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com

I think his asking price was $26 including shipping.

BTW, his are "gold series", while I'm not exactly sure waht that means,
I had an XJ2144 that was cellular compatable, but it never worked well
on my machine, John's works great!

Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:28:36 EST
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HP Cuts OmniBook Prices
PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1999 FEB 3 (Newsbytes) -- By Craig Menefee,
Newsbytes. (Note: Corrects prices.) Hewlett-Packard Co. İNYSE:HWP¨ has chopped
up to 25 percent from the price of its OmniBook notebook PCs, and up to 66
percent from OmniBook accessories like extra batteries, DVD (digital versatile
disk) drives, and port replicators.

Laura Demmons, HP product marketing manager for the mobile computing division,
said the firm's price strategy is "in response to changes in the marketplace
to offer notebook PCs at the best possible price."

"These notebooks are mainly for corporate users," a spokesperson told
Newsbytes. "They include features designed for corporate system administrators
like manageability and security solutions."

She said two featured models showed the "most significant price cuts," but the
firm also reduced prices about 16 percent on other OmniBooks. The price cuts
are partly in anticipation of new model introductions to follow, according to
another HP source.

HP's OmniBook 7100 notebook PC got the full 25 percent cut. It is designed to
replace a mobile user's desktop PC and has an Intel Pentium II 266 megahertz
(MHz) processor, an 8.1 gigabyte (GB) hard drive, 32 megabyte (MB) memory, a
14.1-inch XGA thin film transistor (TFT) display and a standard CD-ROM and
floppy combination module. The cut brings the 7100's price from $3,999 down to
$3,199.

The OmniBook 4150, a slim-line expandable notebook PC, has Intel's Pentium II
300MHz processor, a 6.4GB hard drive, 64MB of memory, a 14.1-inch XGA TFT
display and 24X CD-ROM drive. The price for a 4150 has dropped 17 percent from
about $3,976 to about $3,399.

The firm cut 66 percent off the price of nickel metal hydride (NiMH)
batteries, which are designed to slide into the systems' removable devices
bays. The battery is now $45.

A removable 2X DVD drive module will sell for $175, down 60 percent.

A port replicator, which gives users extra ports for peripherals, has been cut
44 percent to about $55.

The spokesperson said the optional components all work across the OmniBook
line.

HP has a site on the World Wide Web at http://www.hp.com .

Reported by Newsbytes News Network, http://www.newsbytes.com .

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This is HPLX-L, not HPOMNI_L.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:21:01 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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I have heard elsewhere that the Greenwich Cable will not print from
Dos, (including Lotus). Because of that I have bought the Belkin Serial
to Parallel which is supposed to print from dos. I have twisted the
wires to cancel out the null modem effect of my connectivity cable and
I print from Lotus without a problem to my BJC80.

Hope this helps...
Mike...


> I recently purchased Greenwich Instruments' GA945-HP from Thaddeus.  I
> cannot get it to print my Lotus spreadsheets.  Can someone help?  Have
> you successfully printed from Lotus, and if so, what are your specific
> settings (inside Lotus or elsewhere)?
>
> It does print fine from PhoneBook.  When I try to print from Lotus, it
> seems to send the signal (because the light on my BJC80 starts
> flashing), but nothing ever comes out.  I have also tried it with other
> printers to no avail.
>
> Also, for others' information, the GA945-HP does not work well with an
> HP LaserJet 5L.  I confirmed this with Greenwich.  This isn't too
> surprising, tho, since the 5L has also had difficulty with my Dell
> Latitude laptop with Windows 95.  (a fact that HP confirms)
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> angi@reagan-assoc.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:38:32 -0800
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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I get the same thing, Chris.

> Thu,  4 Feb 1999 09:23:38 -0500 (EST)
>
> 11h04m32s ago ...
> On Wed,  3 Feb 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> > ...It appears to me that something
> > is preventing me from getting to the correct destination.  The link
> > I would like those of you with HV to check is as follows:
> >
> > http://faith.presby.org/
> >
> > Let me know what happens.  I can't figure out if the error I'm =
getting
> > is because of our packet firewall or something in HV/WWW/LX.
>
> It seems to be some incompatibility with HV-WWW/LX.  I get an error 403
> (Forbidden) with WWW/LX.  When I tried with Unix Lynx on my other
> account it worked OK.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:45:06 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              4, 99 08:38:32 am
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> I get the same thing, Chris.
>

Thanks.  I've fired off a message to dasoft.  As a beta tester, do
you have any debug capabilities to see what could be happening?  I
wonder if it's related to my ISP's mapping of this domain name to
their own actual URL.  The faith.presby.org actually points to
ro.com/~fpc, although I don't know exactly what mechanism they use
to perform the mapping.  Also, the following URLs also map to the
above location:

  faith.presby.org/fpc
  ro.com/fpc

Again, I don't understand the mechanism that's used.  We started off
with the faith.presby.org/fpc, and were told that was the best they
could do.  After about a year, and registering with many search
engines, they told us that it was no problem to do just faith.presby.org,
without the /fpc.  Unfortunately, many of the search engines linked
our entry to the *resolved* URL, ro.com/fpc, so when they made the
new update, we had to end up with all these confusing (to me) different
mappings.  This might be related to the problem, although I've never
ran into a browser yet that coughed up on our URL.

Any insight or education would be appreciated.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:49:20 -0500
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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              IR220L?
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> The PDF datasheet for the JetEye 9680 lists Windows as a requirement, yet I know
> some folks have gotten older JetEyes to work under Linux. Has anyone gotten the
> 9680 to work? Will it work at speeds lower than 115200?
>
I remember hearing of success with the 9680 some time ago. I can't remember his
name though; it was a doctor I think from up in the northeast USA.

The older model ESI-9680 works fine with the 200LX, but only at 115200. It
works under Linux also, but is not as reliable as the serial cable.

--
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:43:38 +0100
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Comments: To: kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM

Hi,

> > Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
> > XJack modem these days?

sorry, but -- what does 'xjack' mean??

GTX
daniel

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XJack was a term coined by Megahertz for their line of PCMCIA modems which
didn't rely on a special cable to connect the card with the phone jack (commonly
called a "dongle"). The advantage is not having yet another piece of hardware
(the dongle) to lug around during your mobile computing experience.

The XJack series had a pop-out which would allow you to plug the phone line
connector directly to the card. There are others now that do this, but I believe
the XJack series was the first.

- Longden





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Hi,

> > Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
> > XJack modem these days?

sorry, but -- what does 'xjack' mean??

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> to perform the mapping.  Also, the following URLs also map to the
> above location:
>
>   faith.presby.org/fpc
>   ro.com/fpc

Chances are it's WWW/LX's lack of support for HTTP 1.1 virtual domains.
WWW/LX doesn't include the needed Host: line in the HTTP header yet.

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Chances are it's WWW/LX's lack of support for HTTP 1.1 virtual
> domains. WWW/LX doesn't include the needed Host: line in the HTTP
> header yet.

YET... is the key word here.  Andreas is working on it, last I heard...
but it required changing some code in HV as well.

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Thu,  4 Feb 1999 13:13:03 -0500 (EST)

01h52m02s ago ...
On Thu,  4 Feb 1999, Mike Schneider wrote:

> I have heard elsewhere that the Greenwich Cable will not print from
> Dos, (including Lotus).

> > I recently purchased Greenwich Instruments' GA945-HP from Thaddeus.  =
I
> > cannot get it to print my Lotus spreadsheets.  Can someone help?  =
Have
> > you successfully printed from Lotus, and if so, what are your specific
> > settings (inside Lotus or elsewhere)?

Dunno about the Greenwich convertor, but the BSE S-P convertor I use
needs to be fed 9600 baud.  If you're using any DOS comm software,
you'll need to reset COM1 to 9600 from whatever the comm stuff uses.
        mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
should do the trick.  I have to do this for all DOS software that
prints.  Launch from a batch file that includes the mode command...

Doesn't help much for the built-in 123 though --- Check in SETUP to
make sure "COM1 Power in DOS" is turned on!  No problems here printing
from 123.

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:48:07 -0600
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> > I get the same thing, Chris.
> >
>
> Thanks.  I've fired off a message to dasoft.>

I just had a similar problem trying to download the Bible modules that
Tom Hoover has at his web site that his "HisWord" program uses.  When
I tried to download either of the Bible modules, at his site, using
WWW/LX (the latest version) from my LX, I would get some strange
errors.  I would either get a "Login denied" message, or the download
would start, and then lock up in the middle of the down load.

I was able to go directly to The Online Bible company's web site and
download those modules.  I have never had a file yet, that I could not
download using WWW/LX from my LX.  I emailed Tom Hoover and notified
him of my downloading problems.  He emailed me back and told me that he
downloaded the files from his web site, without any problems.

I emailed him again and asked if he tried the download using his LX.
He said he didn't, because he doesn't own a copy of WWW/LX.  I
forwarded this problem to Avi @ D&A to see if he had the time to look
into it.  I am still awaiting his reply.  I don't know if these two
issues are related, but I thought I would share them with you.

Tom Hoover's web site is at: www.pobox.com/~thoover.  If anyone wants
the "Hisword" program, it is awesome.  He took the DOS version of the
Online Bible program, that does not work correctly on the LX, and
wrote a system manager program called "HisWord".  It works great on
the LX.  Both the KJV & NIV version Bibles fits on my flash card in
less than 6 meg.  I had to send away to the Online Bible company
for the NIV version because it is still copyright protected, the dual
KJV & NIV modules only cost $22.00, and they still sell it.



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FYI, I got $103 for the beat up HP100LX, still taking offers above
$25 for Puma intellisync complete with slightly worn box, cable and
software, but does not do Outlook, not directly anyways.

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Date sent:              Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:00:19 -0800
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From:                   arthur hu <arthurhu@halcyon.com>
Subject:                FS Beatup but cheap HP 100LX $100+ , Intellisync $20+
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> I just picked up a beat up HP100LX with intellisync software
> and cable at my upscale pawn shop for $65. Unfortunately, I can't
> use it because it won't read my 30M compact flash card with all
> my apps and data on it, I was intending to use it as a "loaner" while
> getting my HP 200LX fixed. I think if you don't use the PC slot it will
> be fine unless you can figure out how to make it work. Also fine as
> a basis for upgrading
>
> Compared to the HP200LX, it only lacks Quicken in ROM on the
> HP200LX
>
> Lid latch doesn't latch, there 's a hole behind the battery
> compartment, missing one corner screw, appears to be 1 or 2
> dead lines on the LCD on the 1st line, otherwise you can read
> everything, there's a layer of crud on the lid, but it appears the
> previous owner was successfully using intellisync by Puma, and
> it includes the software and cable.
>
> I'm taking offers for both or individually, starting bids are $100
> for the HP 100LX (box and both manuals and inserts), $125
> automatically gets it
>
> and
> $20 for cable and link software. (comes with
> slightly torn box and full manuals), $30 gets  it.
>
>
> After this week it goes up on ebay.
>
> arthur hu kirkland WA arthurhu@halcyon.com
> "fairness in diversity"
> http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu
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Hi,

I thought I saw a copy of Puma Tech's Intellisync for the HP200 for sale on
the list.  Is that is still true, please email me !


Thanks,
Jon

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Really bad idea--THEY WILL BURST!!!

>PS : Has anyone noticed that duracell batteries will recharge in the HP200lx
while on deskpower?  I know this is probably bad - but my AA last up to 6months
before needing to be changed (when they drain completely) - it makes all the
PSION & Palmpilot users I work with green with envy ?
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>1. As a previous owner of the 95lx & 100lx - I was gutted to discover that the
IR shareware utility "Remote Commander" - doesnt work on the 200lx.  Especially
since I  had learned the setup of several now dead remotes, on my previous PDA
-
and was even considering IR window blinds -  is there any IR S/W for the 200lx
worth investigating ?<

Remote Commander works but you can't just transfer the remote control files
from on computer to another--I tried that--the old files won't work. You have
to relearn all the codes for each computer. My tv works at about a six foot
range. I have to hold the keys down a couple seconds until the signal trips the
tv ir.

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______________orginal message_______________

> Don't know about a current address, but... He stopped developing for the
> 200LX about a year (or was it two?) ago. A crying shame... he was working
> on some really cool projects.

Another reason for releasing source code.  If Rob is no longer
supporting the Tiles program, then we should encourage him to "leave a
legacy" for the surviving HP200LX owners and release the source code.

The decision, of course, is totally up to him.  But we can still try :-)

--
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Releasing the source for software is always a good idea. Especially if you've
decided to stop developing it for the platform. There are many good programs
out there which will disappear simply because the author decides not to develop
for the platform any more. One that comes to mind is Quick Fax. It is a nice
faxing program for the HPLX which is going to disappear because the author no
longer wants do develop for the platform. Anybody want to contact him and pick
up where he left off?

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>> The HP speaker is really flat from what I remember. ...

>I don't think the Speaker is a 'speaker'; it's one of those
>piezo electric buzzer things.  This choice was for size and low
>power reasons but it probably limits what you can expect to get
>from it.

Doesn't a peizo just use a different cone? They still use a magnet and coil
don't they?

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Date:    Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:13:00 -0800
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     Also found that the Acrodos on simtel is only for a 386 or better. any
     other options?


     Joe:-{>}

_________________reply seperator

I would just wait until someone comes out with a 486 upgrade for the LX. I thnk
thats more likely than a 186 pdf reader since Adobe only writes pdf readers for
windows and hasn't shown any intrest in writing one for the LX.

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1999-02-03-10:14:03 John Musielewicz:
> What kind of interface does it have? Does it have an icon based one? A
command
> line?

It's a basic Unix operating system, command-line only. Before us serious Unix
bigots can really just run Minix and nothing else on our palmtop, we'll need
to divise some PIM software. I've been pondering that one....
_____________________

Why not port the Lotus PIM software over.

> How does it use memory--does it need more than 640k? Do you need to have
> expanded or extended memory?

It uses memory pretty sparsely. I don't know the OS overhead requirement, but
it'll run fine in 640K or somewhat less. I don't know whether any of the funky
expanded memory systems are useable with it. While it's been a long time since
I've really looked at it closely, I'm pretty sure it supports swapping.

It manages memory by mandating (enforced by the compiler) that all programs
run in "small memory model" --- 64KB code plus 64KB data, or less. Like V7 on
a PDP-11. This lets it use the 8086's segmentation registers for memory
management, relocating running programs on the fly as needed.
___________________________

It uses memory sort of like System Manager complient programs then.


> Can you run dos programs like you can in OS/2?

Nope. In theory I suppose one could come up with a dos emulator that serviced
DOS syscalls (interrupts), and teach it about a new executable type, and add
limited, fragile support for .com files. AFAIK this hasn't been done. Probably
never get working support for EXEs.
______________________________

Kind of reminds me of OS/2. OS/2 doesn't have a lot of end user apps either
(one of the problems) but its great the way it handles dos apps--makes up for
the lack of OS/2 applications. Any body know if there's a version that will run
on a 186?

John

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A piezo "speaker" is not a speaker in the conventional sense. It is a "solid
state" (remember the term?) element that vibrates when a voltage is applied.
It uses a small amount of power, so it fits the 200LX well.

If you were to tap the "line" to this the power available would be very
small, probably not enough to drive headphones, etc. The signal would need
amplification or boosting to be of value to a conventional sound producing
device.



Thanks,

Systems Consulting
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web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
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-----Original Message-----
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>> The HP speaker is really flat from what I remember. ...

>I don't think the Speaker is a 'speaker'; it's one of those
>piezo electric buzzer things.  This choice was for size and low
>power reasons but it probably limits what you can expect to get
>from it.

Doesn't a peizo just use a different cone? They still use a magnet and coil
don't they?

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Systems Consulting wrote:

> If you were to tap the "line" to this the power available would be
> very small, probably not enough to drive headphones, etc. The signal
> would need amplification or boosting to be of value to a conventional
> sound producing device.

Actually, a straight tap from the internal "speaker" contacts to an
external speaker or headphones works quite well, and produces volumes far
louder than the internal will put out.

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I stand/sit corrected on that point.

I haven't tried it - only theory


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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Systems Consulting wrote:

> If you were to tap the "line" to this the power available would be
> very small, probably not enough to drive headphones, etc. The signal
> would need amplification or boosting to be of value to a conventional
> sound producing device.

Actually, a straight tap from the internal "speaker" contacts to an
external speaker or headphones works quite well, and produces volumes far
louder than the internal will put out.

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Systems Consulting wrote:

> I stand/sit corrected on that point.
> I haven't tried it - only theory

I'm surprised that it works as well as it does, but it's pretty neat.

I have a page up describing the process of installing an external speaker
jack, in the "Hardware Hacking" section of my site.

Unfortunately, replacing the speaker doesn't improve the quality of
sound-- only volume.  Programs that play digitized sounds through the PC
speaker still sound pretty bad.

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John Musielewicz wrote:

> orginal message------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:13:00 -0800
> From:    Joseph E Buford <jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM>
> Subject: Reİ2¨: Acrodos from simtel?
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>      Also found that the Acrodos on simtel is only for a 386 or better. any
>      other options?
>
>      Joe:-{>}
>
> _________________reply seperator
>
> I would just wait until someone comes out with a 486 upgrade for the LX. I thnk
> thats more likely than a 186 pdf reader since Adobe only writes pdf readers for
> windows and hasn't shown any intrest in writing one for the LX.
>
> John
>
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the LX processor will never be upgraded.
Because of size, architecture and BIOS limitations, the LX cannot accept a new
processor. If someone knows of a acrobat reader for Linux, or has the documentation
on the acrobat format, I might write a reader.

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Anyone had any luck getting their palmtop to print to a Canon
BJC-50 printer, preferably via IR? I've tried both with and
without the IRDA drivers (from SUPER) - but I can't seem to
get any response from either System Manager apps or DOS. I've
only being trying out the IR since I don't have a cable
available at the moment, and would appreciate it if anyone
has had any success, or has any bright ideas.

Thanks,

 -Mike

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David,

 > To summarize here, I should use 010 for the year 2010, and 050 for the year
 > 2050,
 > is that correct?

No. 1999 is 99, 2000 is 100, 2001 is 101, 2010 is 110 etc.

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Chris,

 > Thanks.  I've fired off a message to dasoft.  As a beta tester, do

Got it! I do not know. I assume it is the mapping. I also
encountered it before when the server allows only MSIE and
Netscape to access the pages.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Robert,

 > I just had a similar problem trying to download the Bible modules that
 > Tom Hoover has at his web site that his "HisWord" program uses.  When
 > I tried to download either of the Bible modules, at his site, using
 > WWW/LX (the latest version) from my LX, I would get some strange
 > errors.  I would either get a "Login denied" message, or the download
 > would start, and then lock up in the middle of the down load.

Your problem has ZERO to do with the access problem to
http://faith.presby.org!!!
Robert, I downloaded the files you talked about just fine
with HV. I suspect you have a setup problem or
communication problem (re partial d/l) And perhaps an older
HV version?

I also sent you email on this!

 > I emailed him again and asked if he tried the download using his LX.
 > He said he didn't, because he doesn't own a copy of WWW/LX.  I
 > forwarded this problem to Avi @ D&A to see if he had the time to look
 > into it.  I am still awaiting his reply.  I don't know if these two
 > issues are related, but I thought I would share them with you.

Avi replied to you already. Problems are not related.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:07:53 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post, folders
Comments: To: david.eggins@USA.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

David,

 > I am using PostLX, and could not find any explicit documentation on how
 > to make messages automatically go to a folder.  If someone could send
 > me a copy of the part of the post.cfg file where they automatically
 > have their HPLX list messages sent to a folder that would be a great
 > help.

Look for a help topic called FILTERS. Use DOCIFY to print
the Post/LX socumentation.

 > The second question that would answer is  on what field do you check to
 > see if it is a
 > HPLX list email, as it seems that in the non digest option, the
 > messages come from the originators, not the list itself.

I use this:

İSYSTEM¨

 İ...¨

İFILTER¨
hplx-l@=hplx
Fetter=Quotes
pimlist=Agenda
Daily Quote=Quotes

İ...¨

And I have folders named "hplx", "Quotes", Agenda" etc.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:07:57 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Questions about Post/Lx
Comments: To: paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear Paolo,

 > 1) Is there a way to translate the E-mail messages, downloaded using a
 > PC and M$ Outlook, to Post/Lx? and back from Post/Lx to M$ Outlook?

No comment! :) ...

 > 2) Is there a way to store some messages (i.e. zipped in a back-up
 > directory) in order to free up the drive memory (I download all the
 > messages in my C: drive) and to restore them when I need it?

Two ways:

1. Create a new folder (call it Archive) and make sure it
is on drive A: somewhere. Then mark all the messages you
want to move to this archive, then SHIFT-F9 Move, and
select Marked. Then you can zip the Archive file on A.

2. I simply created the archive on A (I have a 160MB drive)
and whatever I want to save there I move to it. It is gone
from C: (after packing of course). The advantage here is
that the messages are accessible. Right now I have over
10,000 messages accessible, some on A: some on C:.

 > 3) While in Post/Lx, how is it possible to know if a message has an
 > attachment with it?

Yes, it says so on the message body. Also, you can confirm
by pressing CTRL-M. If an attachment is present, Post/LX
will ask you where to store it and what to name it.
Otherwise, it'll tell you there is no attachment.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:08:28 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX - URL Check Please
Comments: cc: sponsor@ftel.net
In-Reply-To:  <199902042308.PAA17260@ftel.net> from "A Meshar" at Feb 4,
              99 03:08:02 pm
Content-Type: text

>  > Thanks.  I've fired off a message to dasoft.  As a beta tester, do
>
> Got it! I do not know. I assume it is the mapping. I also
> encountered it before when the server allows only MSIE and
> Netscape to access the pages.

I don't think this is an issue, as I can access other pages on this
web server.  For example, my lame home page at

http://ro.com/~rclott

works just fine under HV.  Ipresume this narrows it down to the
mapping (again, something I'm not clear on how it gets done) and
its interaction with HV.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:23:12 -0500
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              Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
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From:         Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP Cuts OmniBook Prices
Comments: To: CSchlim@AOL.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Cathy,

Thanks for the Omnibook update.  Many of us have Palmtops & Omnibooks.     =Bob=

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:01:07 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Re: PCMCIA Modem"
MIME-Version: 1.0
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>Does anyone know where to get a decent price on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
>XJack modem these days?

I have several used Megahertz PCMCIA XJack XJ-1144s that I've decided to
sell. No manuals or anything, just the modem. Guaranteed not DOA. All
tested working in my 200lx. I'll take best reasonable* offers, plus you
pay actual cost for your choice shipping.

Mike
kopplin@primenet.com

No references, but you can check my feedback on ebay. No blemishes.
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=kopplin@prim
enet.com

* significantly less than the other guys, but I'll ignore offers of a buck
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:30:16 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              xymox hk <xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         xymox hk <xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Greeting!
Comments: To: rogerswn@ctimail.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi Roger,

Nice to meet u too!!
share idea?  yes, why not!  I'm happy to know have
HP200LX fans in HK. :-)

>What are these programs Ultima III, vi and Jorj? you do Fax with Telix?

Ultima III
is great classic 80's RPG game from Origin.

vi
Unix base editor for DOS

Jorj
English Dictionary

Telix
I using it for some device console port and connect to
internet (tin/pine/telnet/ftp etc...)

>How many memory you hv for your HP200LX?

I'm using only 2MB HP200lx w/40MB(80MB Jam)Flashdisk
Because that fee of upgrade 32MB+Doublespeed+shipping is too
expersive for me. :..)

>How do you config your HV to view
>the gif files from the web? Sorry so many questions.

i'm using plain text viewing only, but if gif.. u need install
LXpic for HV addon.

>Mine is about 4 years old, it was used mainly for database. Now I want
it to
>do more, read Chinese novel is one. I'm getting a 48M compact flash
card.

long time ago, I know lexicom had chinese dictionary
for CGA XT/286. And ETen Chinese system v1.x for XT/286.  But I never
see that all abandonware.  In taiwan, Cview.com is a very popular
DOS base utility for viewing BIG-5 text file but it still only
for VGA mode. :(

Have a good day!!

xymoxhk

P.S.
Anyone know how to config 200LX become a MIDI controller
through serial port to control some tone genarator. Is possible?


>Let's keep in touch and share the idea, ok?
>
>Roger
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xymox hk <xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:19 PM
>Subject: Greeting!
>
>
>>Le Ho Ma!!
>>
>>Wow! I'm also coming from HK and reading this HPLX-list
>>every morning.  yeah, and my hp200lx about 5 year old.
>>In HPLX-list, That many small tips can help me solve my big problem.
>>
>>My everyday's program:
>>NoteTaker      Appointments      Phone Book
>>Filer          vi                HDM
>>HV             Telix             List
>>MaxDOS         CGAhlp            Jorj
>>Ultima III     Buddy
>>
>>Kung Hei Fai Choi (more two week hehe..)
>>
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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:46:20 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      WWWLX and Ethernet - WORKING!
Content-Type: text

I have finally gotten my WWW/LX and Acton ethernet card to work!  I
have no idea what went wrong earlier.  I did catch myself (once, only)
running WWW on top of an existing WWW.  That was clearly a no-no.
Anyway, I've used it several times since then, and I've been happy.

I transferred some e-mail archives to my POST folders using a nifty
technique I've developed, but never used extensively because of the
slow phone line connections.  But today I sent over a fairly good
sized archive 100+ messages.  I'll be trying larger ones tomorrow.

Here's what I did.  This requires some UNIX expertise.  I will be
intentionally vague about the steps - if you know UNIX will enough,
you'll be able to follow me.  If you don't, I'm not sure I want to
be responsible for accidentally mis-typing a step and you losing all
your important mail messages!  If you can't follow these steps, get
some help from someone who can.

Just for use with POST, I've created a soft link in my shell account
mail folder directory (~/Mail for me, I use elm).  This soft link links
my system inbox to a folder named "in".  Using my mail reader, elm,
I can see the name of my system inbox on the screen header information.
Once I have this link, I can save any one or more mail messages to the
"in" folder, and then they are treated just like new incoming mail.
All the original headers are still intact (unlike if I forwarded them!).
Note, on my system soft link is necessary - cannot do a hard linke
because the system incoming mail folders are stored on a different
file system that's just mounted on the user device.  Hardlinks
cannot span file systems, at least on the Linux server my ISP uses.

Then I go to my palmtop and connect using WWW/LX and ethernet, and
download all the messages.  In my case today, all of them were
immediately directed to a particular folder by POST by use of an
entry in the İfilter¨ section of POST.CFG.  Worked like a champ.

Maybe this is an obvious technique, but it took me awhile to realize
this was possible, and I could effectively transfer mail messages
from my shell account to POST without losing the vital header
information.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:03:16 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Charlie McNeil <ctmcneil@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Charlie McNeil <ctmcneil@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      FS: HP200LX and related bunch o' stuff
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello Everyone-
I have some surplus HPLX items for sale, and I thought I would  give the
list the first crack at 'em. Please, e-mail me privately (off the list) at
ctmcneil@ix.netcom.com if you have any questions or would like to make an
offer. Everything is guaranteed to be in very good condition unless noted
otherwise. Prices do not include shipping/C.O.D.charges. Preference will be
given to those buying a quantity of items. Thanks for looking...

Hardware:

HP200LX 2Meg. Exc condition, no sign of hinge crack or screen problems.
w/Original Box, Manuals, HP F1011A Power Supply, Sears Case #965283. $225.

SunDisk branded 10Meg ATA Flashdisk card. #SDP5-10. w/HP Stac disk and
manual. $60.

Megahertz XJ1144 X-Jack PCMIA 14.4 Modem. w/software and manual. $20.

Megahertz XJ124FM X-Jack PCMIA 2400/9600 Modem w/software and manual. $10.

U.S. Robotics Worldport 14.4 Pocket Modem. The latch on battery door is
broken, otherwise in excellent condition. Uses one 9 volt battery. You will
need to adapt the standard DB9 connector on the modem to the HP serial port.
I used an adapter from the HP connectivity kit (not included). This modem
works great with the HPLX. w/software & manual. $50.

Software (original disks, not copies):

Complete set of Lotus Agenda 2.0 Manuals. Includes both sizes of software
disks, which are freely available for download on the web. You only want
this if you are in search of the manuals. $20.

Microsoft Works 3 for DOS. w/manual & extra book, 3.5" software disks. $30.

PC File 7 for DOS. w/manual, 3.5" software disk. Nice DOS database. $15.

Geoworks Ensemble 2.0 for DOS. Graphical shell & apps. Neat. $25.

Memory Mate. Great freeform database for DOS. Boolean searches. $15.

Info Select 2.0 for DOS. Another take on the above. $15.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:01:24 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              xymox hk <xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         xymox hk <xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Greeting!
Comments: To: rogerswn@ctimail.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi Roger,

Yes, But i'm dunno read Simplified Chinese :(

Sure, 4MB version can do it by self, coz it only a
memory modules then easy plug and replace.  But u
need to know your machine version had modules slot or not.
Because 1st 2MB HP200lx release version that 2MB memory is
FIXED on the Mother Board. (no Modules Slot).

The TechRAM 4MB and TechSpeed upgrades are quite easy to install,
but the > 8MB upgrade is very difficult as it requires soldering
wires to the CPU and removing chips from the mainboard.

The prices (May/1998 Rundel Datentechnik) are as follows:


 TechRAM 4MB     DM  249
 TechSpeed       DM   50


or, if you want the 8MB:


 TechRAM 8MB     DM  419
 TechSpeed       DM   50
 Installation    DM   95


All prices in German Marks plus shipping (about DM 50 to HongKong).


>
>Hi, xy
>Do you mind I call you "xy"? Hope not.
>I'd found ZWCGA and CHV at sunsite.ust.hk
>Combine these two programs I can view GB code txt at my 200LX. If you
can
>read Simplified Chinese characters, try these out. And you can also
find
>some novel (may be only part of it, i.e. Sang Guo) at this site too. If
you
>need the exact URL, let me know, will e-mail to you.
>I had the LXPic in the same folder as HV, don't work. May be there is
some
>config I hv to do? I only use that for off line browsing.
>I saw that a member on the list mentioned about doing the 4-Meg up
grade by
>himself, I forgot the web site. I was not confident enough to do that.
But
>may be some day I'll try it. Who knows, you'll never get enough memory.
>So, you are using a PCMCIA modem too? or a external serial modem? You
must
>be very good cause you can use your 200LX to connect to the internet
and
>..... Expect me to bother you more offen from now on, OK? :-)
>
>Roger


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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:05:02 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Organization: @Home Network
Subject:      Re: New US PCS cellular data option
Comments: To: Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Gary Spiers wrote on 1-10-99 at 12:17
>
<snip>
>
> The URL will be:
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gary_Spiers/Sagem.htm
>
> but don't try looking for at least a day<G>. I will also put more
> information about the phone there.
>
> GaryS
>

I understand that 3 weeks may be `Real Soon Now' but I did think it was
more than `at least a day', although I suppose technically it isn't.
Do I have the wrong URL?

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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:37:49 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      FS: MS Flight Simulator

I still have a copy of Micro$soft Flight Simulator V4.0 that runs on the LX.
If anyone is inerested drop me an email. I have the box, disks and manual.

73 Jeff W4JEF


    *=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L #1857 =-=-=-=-=-*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*


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Date:         Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:52:01 -0700
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              scott smith <ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET>
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From:         scott smith <ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject:      printing
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Question for the group. I have a hp95lx and would like to printout a file i
made in the lotus 123. Will the connectivity cord be used, or do i need some
other cord to do the printing?. I ordered a connectivity cord from Thaddeus
on 7th. January so it should arrive soon. The printer is an old IBM
proprinter. Have a nice day. Scott
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:53:43 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeld <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeld <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Disassembling the 700LX
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Is there any disassembly sequence chart available for the 200lx or the 700lx?

I am disassembling my 700lx, because the screen began to flicker some weeks ago.

It happens, that when I hit on the screen, it appears some times for about a
minute. I think that it is because of the cable, going from the motherboard to
the screen. I used the 700lx with the Nokia 2110 heavily for some weeks. I think

that this was to much weight on the screen. Now I could not open the lx enough
to take a look at the cable. I will soon put some pictures of the disassembly
(some closer pictures than those on hplx.net I hope).

Do you know any address or URL for documents on disassembly?

 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:11:05 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Any software for Hp 700Lx to edit phonelist on attached 2110?
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Would like to transfer phonenumbers back and forth from my Hp 700 LX and
my Nokia 2110.

I have a Nokia Cellularware which has this feature running on my desktop
computer. Have not tried this software under Win 3.0 on the Hp, do not
think it is going to work.

But I would like to know if it exist any program for managing the
phonenumbers on a 2110 with the Hp 700 Lx?


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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:13:07 -0600
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: 200LX Lotus printing
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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> Dunno about the Greenwich convertor, but the BSE S-P convertor I use
> needs to be fed 9600 baud.  If you're using any DOS comm software,
> you'll need to reset COM1 to 9600 from whatever the comm stuff uses.
>         mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
> should do the trick.  I have to do this for all DOS software that
> prints.  Launch from a batch file that includes the mode command...
>
> Doesn't help much for the built-in 123 though --- Check in SETUP to
> make sure "COM1 Power in DOS" is turned on!  No problems here printing
> from 123.
>
> HTH
>
> -Peniel

Hi,

I am able to print from Lotus using my Belkins serial to parallel
converter cable, part number F5F113 (that is what is on the box).  In
Lotus I use the following setup in /worksheet/global/default/printer
these are my setting:

margins
  left 4
  right 80
  top 0
  bottom 0

interface
  2 serial 1  (I thought that it defaulted to parallel 1)

name: system printer
setup string: \027\069  (this resets my HP printers to the top of
                         the page.  Without this, the next page starts
                         printing a few lines down, and the next line
                         a few more)

page length 66
İX¨ send line feeds

baud rate
H 9600

delay 1

Make sure after you make any changes, you quit once, and then update,
otherwise your changes will not be saved.  Also I think that your
changes will not be made to existing spreadsheets that have already
been saved.  Go check the settings of each spreadsheet that you want
to print to make sure they agree with the setting changes you just
made above.

Also here is what I have in my autoexec.bat file so that I can print
from a DOS program, with my Belkin serial-to-parallel converted cable.

Autoexec.bat

<clip>
mode com1:9600,n,8,1,r
mode lpt1:=3Dcom1
<clip>

It seems crazy, all the printer outputs from the LPT1 are converted to
the serial port, ran through a external converter that converts it back
to a parallel signal, that ends up at my printer, but it works!  I
have to use the HP connectivity cable to plug into the LX, and then I
plug the Belkin cable into the HP cable, then I plug the Belkin cable
into my printer.

I thought I would be nice to just have one cable, instead of two,  like
the Greenwich cable.  I called Greenwich to inquire about their cable.
I spoke with their tech supt department and told them that I was
using a 200LX, and that I wanted to print not only from inside of
system manager, but also from outside of system manager from a DOS
based program.  They told me that their cable would do what I needed.

I purchased the cable directly from them.  I could not get the printer
to print from my DOS based accounting program that I was using to run
my small business.  I contacted Greenwich's tech supt and told them
about the problem.  I was told that their cable would not print from
DOS.  They apologized for misleading me into buying one, and gave me
a RMA number to return it.  If I remember correctly, it would also not
print from Lotus for some reason, but I won't swear to it, it was a
while ago.

I hope this helps.



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See subject..

The keys are now "all over the place".

Thanks in advance..

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> I have a Nokia Cellularware which has this feature running on my desktop
> computer.

Where can I get this software?

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> Do you know any address or URL for documents on disassembly?

Marcan Distribution has an excellent Adobe Acrobat document available on their
website:

http://www.marcan-dist.com/mdn-4mb.pdf

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In-Reply-To:  <0014FDEB.3146@palmtop.com>> from "John Musielewicz" at Feb 4,
              99 03:42:56 pm
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Hello All,

I have been reading this thread on pdf files. I do not know if there is
a version for the 186, but would think there is... do a search on
ghostscript. It is a ps/pdf file reader which is free for non-commercial
use, i think. it will convert between pdf and ps as well as viewing ps and
pdf.

just my $0.02,

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Has anyone actually set up Ghostscript/View on the LX?  I've looked at
it but didn't have the time to play around with getting it running.  A
package already fine-tuned would be great!

Terry

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> Hello All,
>
> I have been reading this thread on pdf files. I do not know if there
> is
> a version for the 186, but would think there is... do a search on
> ghostscript. It is a ps/pdf file reader which is free for
> non-commercial
> use, i think. it will convert between pdf and ps as well as viewing ps
> and
> pdf.
>
> just my $0.02,
>
> Keith Grider
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This isn't a world shaker but every now and then my palmtop decides to=
 change
the "Main Battery Type" from Nickel Cadmium (rechargeable) to Alkaline=
 (single
use).  It's no big deal to go in and change it back but I was wondering if=
 this
happens to anyone else.

I am using a 200LX, 2MB (not upgraded) with "Buddy" running.

Thank you,
Larry



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Subject:      Re: Printing to Canon BJC-50
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i don't know about the bjc 50, but i was unable to get it to print with
the bjc80 from the irda drivers.  the cannon apparently requires windows
based drivers and not dos.  if you have any luck let me know.  i print
to a hp 6p at work all day and was thinking of getting the hp340 with ir
port for portability but i don't know if that will work either.

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> Subject:      Printing to Canon BJC-50
>
> Anyone had any luck getting their palmtop to print to a Canon
> BJC-50 printer, preferably via IR? I've tried both with and
> without the IRDA drivers (from SUPER) - but I can't seem to
> get any response from either System Manager apps or DOS. I've
> only being trying out the IR since I don't have a cable
> available at the moment, and would appreciate it if anyone
> has had any success, or has any bright ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  -Mike
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My 2x/6mb 200LX did the same (usually after something crashed).

I got the LXSTAT program from the SUPER site and call it during the autoexec:

     LXSTAT N

and this forces the NiCad setting.

LXSTAT is a utility that does a host of LX related settings (displaying them and
setting them)....very useful for automating some things.

Often when my battery settings go awry, my contrast gets mucked up too... so my
autoexec actually has:

     LXSTAT N d c 22

and this not only forces NiCad, but sets the Display Contrast to "22" which is
about normal.

I'm not a Buddy user...but I'm surprised it doesn't do some of the same things.
LXSTAT isn't a TSR...so doesn't take any memory from you.

- Longden





Larry Berry <lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL> on 02/05/99 06:33:17 AM

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Subject:  Main Batt Problem.




This isn't a world shaker but every now and then my palmtop decides to change
the "Main Battery Type" from Nickel Cadmium (rechargeable) to Alkaline (single
use).  It's no big deal to go in and change it back but I was wondering if this
happens to anyone else.

I am using a 200LX, 2MB (not upgraded) with "Buddy" running.

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri,  5 Feb 1999 09:38:56 -0500 (EST)

01h25m49s ago ...
On Fri,  5 Feb 1999, Robert Hocking wrote:

> I have to use the HP connectivity cable to plug into the LX, and then I
> plug the Belkin cable into the HP cable, then I plug the Belkin cable
> into my printer.

Glad you can print using the Belkin.  I still can't understand why the
Greenwich S-P cable shouldn't work in DOS.  My BSE S-P convertor is a
small (about the size of a printer connector hood) line-powered
device, that attaches to the end of the HP cable.  It couldn't care
less about whether i'm printing from the PIMs, 123, or DOS apps, as
long as it gets fed 9600 bps...  I've been using it for about 5 years
now with no problem (with both a 100LX and 200LX).

The only screw-up with printing from DOS has been after using
communications software that uses a different baud rate.  It needs to
be reset to 9600 before using DOS progs to print.  I launch them using
a batch file that includes:
        mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
Then everything works fine.  Never had a problem with 123  (This is
also in autoexec.bat along with   mode lpt1=3Dcom1)

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New games, bottom of files page.
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Well, I went to this seminar yesterday and they had a Palm III organizer
as a raffle....low and behold I won it!

So, here I am with a brand new Palm III (2 MB memory, no modem) and my
existing 200LX(2 MB Memory, w/modem).  I haven't opened the new unit; in
case I decide to sell it.

Has anyone ever owned both?  I am looking for comments on which one to
keep.

Thanks,
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I do own both. I was given a Palm III, and have had a 200Lx for
several years. I transferred all my data from the 200 to the Palm
pretty much without incident. I used the Palm for a week or two.
I found it horribly inconvenient in comparison with the 200, so now
it sits on my desk pretty much unused.

Paul Lusardi wrote:
>
> Well, I went to this seminar yesterday and they had a Palm III organizer
> as a raffle....low and behold I won it!
>
> So, here I am with a brand new Palm III (2 MB memory, no modem) and my
> existing 200LX(2 MB Memory, w/modem).  I haven't opened the new unit; in
> case I decide to sell it.
>
> Has anyone ever owned both?  I am looking for comments on which one to
> keep.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Fri,  5 Feb 1999 10:26:37 -0500 (EST)

Just remembered one "gotcha" that I used to run into...  The palmtop
uses X-ON  -  X-OFF software handshaking for printing.  I think some
programs (maybe the built-in 123) expect to receive X-ON before
starting.  If the printer is already powered up and online when you
start the program, the S-P convertor won't send the initial X-ON
character.  You might need to put the printer offline (sends X-OFF),
then back online again to start.

I leave the printer offline until ready to print.

HTH

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:15:55 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Content-Type: text

I want to use my double-slot in my office setup (not on the road) as
follows:

(1) use the external power supply provided with the unit
(2) mount my 160MB flash card (Simple Tech) in one slot
(3) Mount my Acton ethernet card in the other.

I've never used my double slot card before, and would like to
hear from others before I waste too much time.  I've downloaded
a patch for double-speed machines, which I have.  Also I have
a 32MB upgraded unit.

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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I currently have a 160MB PCMCIA flash card.  I see that Shore Systems
sells a 220MB Simple Tech card.  Is there anyplace I can buy a larger
PCMCIA flash card that will work in my HP200LX 2X.

-Chris

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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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More specifically, it's a quartz crystal mounted between two metal
plates.  When a voltage is applied the quartz warps, or contorts.  When
the voltage is released the quartz relaxes.  This is called the Piezo
effect, and that's where the device gets it's name.

><snip>
>A piezo "speaker" is not a speaker in the conventional sense. It is a "solid
>state" (remember the term?) element that vibrates when a voltage is applied.
>It uses a small amount of power, so it fits the 200LX well.
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:57:56 +0000
From: Mike Schneider <mikeschn@flash.net>
To: Angi Bemiss <ANGI@reagan-assoc.com>
Subject: RE: 200LX Lotus printing

Angie Bemiss & Terry Owen,  First of all let me suggest, if you can get =
Belkin's F5F113 Ser
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:59:19 +0000
From: Mike Schneider <mikeschn@flash.net>
To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>
Subject: Re: 200LX Lotus printing

Update,

First of all, thanks to Robert Hocking for investigating and finding
the solution to printing from lotus, dos, and everywhere else!!!

It seems all the documentation says to set up your autoexec.bat with
the following two lines...
mode com1:9600,n,8,1,p
mode lpt1:=3Dcom1
this does not work...

after changing the second line to read...
mode lpt1:,,p
my printer printed dos directories, from pe, etc, whatever I threw at
it...

It's crazy, I don't know why it works, but it does... now my question
for someone on the list that owns a greenwich cable...
If you add these two lines to your autoexec.bat, can you print from
dos?
mode com1:9600,n,8,1,p
mode lpt1:,,p

Let us know what you find out...
Mike...

>
> Dunno about the Greenwich convertor, but the BSE S-P convertor I use
> needs to be fed 9600 baud.  If you're using any DOS comm software,
> you'll need to reset COM1 to 9600 from whatever the comm stuff uses.
>         mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
> should do the trick.  I have to do this for all DOS software that
> prints.  Launch from a batch file that includes the mode command...
>
> Doesn't help much for the built-in 123 though --- Check in SETUP to
> make sure "COM1 Power in DOS" is turned on!  No problems here printing
> from 123.
>
> HTH
>
> -Peniel
> ------------
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:06:23 -0500
Reply-To:     Walter Francis <wally@pop.uky.edu>
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From:         Walter Francis <wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: speaker volume
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>

>Doesn't a peizo just use a different cone? They still use a magnet and coil
>don't they?


A peizoelectric speaker is probably as thick as three sheets of notebook
paper, with maybe another sheets thickness in the center.  They're metal,
circular, with the inner section being about 50% of the diameter.

They don't 'move', they vibrate.  I believe they are capable of putting out
a greater volume with more clairity for their volume (cm¬3) than anything
else, thus they are used when a 'loud' volume (dB) in a small volume (cm¬3)
is required.  :)  Loud, meaning a tiny little speaker like cellphones have
can't quite match the output of a peizo, but that might have changed.

Anyone know what the 660 uses, that darn thing is LOUD.

--
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:11:21 -0600
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> Dunno about the Greenwich convertor, but the BSE S-P convertor I use
> needs to be fed 9600 baud.  If you're using any DOS comm software,
> you'll need to reset COM1 to 9600 from whatever the comm stuff uses.
>         mode com1:96,n,8,1,p
> should do the trick.  I have to do this for all DOS software that
> prints.  Launch from a batch file that includes the mode command...
>
> Doesn't help much for the built-in 123 though --- Check in SETUP to
> make sure "COM1 Power in DOS" is turned on!  No problems here printing
> from 123.
>
> HTH
>
> -Peniel

Hi,

Here is a correction to my earlier reply.  A co-worker of mine pointed
out the the mode command in my autoexec.bat file, did not allow him to
redirect the screen output to the printer when at the DOS prompt he
typed: "dir>prn".  The screen would just sit there with the cursor
flashing.  I tried this and got the same thing.

I swear to you that I ran a DOS based accounting program from my LX
for almost two years, using these mode commands in my autoexec.bat
file, and I never had problems printing anything from that program.  I
have just started using PE from D&A a few months back, and noticed
that I could not print from PE.  I never got around to figuring out
why.

So I decided to call HP tech support for the LX today, and picked
their minds.  I was told that I had to change the mode command that I
had in my autoexec.bat file
from: mode lpt1:=3Dcom1
to:   mode lpt1:,,p

I made the recommended changes.  Now I can redirect the screen output
to the printer, and print from PE (now a great program, that I use
just got better!  Hint Hint Avi!)  The only drawback with redirecting
the screen output to the printer, by typing at the DOS prompt:
dir>prn, is that my HP Laserjet5L's just sit there after receiving
the data.

I have to press the button on the front of the printer to get the
printer to start printing.  I looked in my HP Laserjet's manual and
found a statement that said "If the data (middle) light & the ready
(bottom) light both remain on, there is unprinted data in the printer.
This usually happens when you perform a "print screen" function in DOS or
use software that does not send an "end-of-job" or "form feed" command
when it finishes printing a file."

I also noticed that in the back of my printer manual under configuring
the printer port, there is a mode statement: "For MS-DOS versions 4.0
and later, add this command: mode lpt1:,,b   For earlier versions of
MS-DOS, add this command: mode lpt1:,,p

I decided to call HP printer support to find out if there is some way
of configuring something so that a form feed gets added after a dir>prn
command gets issued, and to ask about the mode difference lpt1,,b &
lpt1,,p.  I was told there was no way to automatically send a form feed
after the dir>prn command, and to use the lpt1,,b mode command, because
I was using DOS 5.0 on the LX.

I changed the mode command to: mode lpt1,,b, and I don't see any
difference between the two, so I took the manuals advice, and used
the "b" in the command.

Sorry if I misled you, I think this will set it straight.


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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:13:57 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> existing 200LX(2 MB Memory, w/modem).  I haven't opened the new unit; in
> case I decide to sell it.

All I can say is what will power!!! (G)   My curiosity would have had
the wrapping off in seconds!

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:17:23 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Well, I went ahead and plunged in headfirst.  Using my doublespeed
200LX, put in doubleslot, put 160MB ST Flash in bottom slot, ACton
etherenet in the top.  I can now access local Novel LAN, internet,
and my hard drive all at once.  (Well not simultaneously, but you
know what I mean).  All I added to my system was the DSLOT.SYS
driver - no patches, nothing else.  Great!

-Chris


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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:04:41 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

Lo> My 2x/6mb 200LX did the same (usually after something crashed).
Lo>
<snip>
Lo> I'm not a Buddy user...but I'm surprised it doesn't do some of the =
same things.
Lo> LXSTAT isn't a TSR...so doesn't take any memory from you.

The LX defaults to alkaline battery after a hard reset(ctl-lshift-on>,
there is a utility on SUPER to check/switch(?) I forget which.
Get Buddy! I don't realize how much I use it until I play around with a
(co-workers) non-buddy machine.

hth

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:23:49 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Double Slot/Speed
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Where can I find a doubleslot adapter?

Karl

At 01:17 PM 2/5/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Well, I went ahead and plunged in headfirst.  Using my doublespeed
>200LX, put in doubleslot, put 160MB ST Flash in bottom slot, ACton
>etherenet in the top.  I can now access local Novel LAN, internet,
>and my hard drive all at once.  (Well not simultaneously, but you
>know what I mean).  All I added to my system was the DSLOT.SYS
>driver - no patches, nothing else.  Great!
>
>-Chris
>
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:34:26 -0500
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Comments: To: DNess@HOME.COM

I have both. The ONE feature the palm III has over the HP is Hot synch. I've tried a couple products for the HP but none come close to the ease and simplicity of the hot synch. Having said that.... I will also say that I don't use the palm III much.  The HP built in apps really shine. Quicken is far superior to the palm III expense tracker. The HP calculator with its wonderful numeric keypad is a hands down winner. But this isn't news to subscribers to this list!

If we could just get a good (or even updated) synchronization tool I would be in HP nirvana.

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:01:12 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Double Slot/Speed
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              DeLyria" at Feb 5, 99 11:23:49 am
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> Where can I find a doubleslot adapter?

Karl:

The one I have is from Accurite Technologies.  I only know of this
one supplier of this device.  Their website is at:

http://www.accurite.com/


The Double Slot product is desribed at this specific URL:

http://www.accurite.com/dslot.html

I don't have a long track record with this - just started using mine
today.  But the setup was remarkably easy, and it worked the first time.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:04:09 -0700
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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While looking for a newer version of List at the Van Buerg site I came
across Deldupe.  It's a utility for finding/deleting duplicate files across
drives.  I've been looking for just such a utility to help me compare
what's on my hard drive with what I now have available on the Palmtop Paper
CD InfoBase.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work the way I thought it did.

What I want to do is something like

   deldupe c:\mydocs d:\shareware

where there are a number of directories under \mydocs and \shareware.
Deldupe doesn't seem to see files farther down the directory structure.  I
tried variations like

   deldupe c:\mydocs\ d:\shareware
   deldupe c:\mydocs\*.* d:\shareware
   deldupe c:\mydocs\\ d:\shareware

None of these seem to work, at least under NT.

I've looked at other similar utilities on S.U.P.E.R. but they don't seem to
handle multiple drives.

Any suggestions on what I may be doing wrong or another utility that would
do what I need?

Thanks,
Don
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:37:18 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Probably not much help  to your NT system, but on the LX (at the SUPER site),
the WHEREIS exm program will search across drives for a wildcard spec and you
can specify the action (ie, del) to perform on each item found.

This is a somewhat generic capability you're asking about...I'd have to think
there's more out there also that'd work on NT and others.

Sorry tho...I've never used deldupe.

- Longden





Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM> on 02/05/99 01:04:09 PM

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Subject:  Duplicate Files




While looking for a newer version of List at the Van Buerg site I came
across Deldupe.  It's a utility for finding/deleting duplicate files across
drives.  I've been looking for just such a utility to help me compare
what's on my hard drive with what I now have available on the Palmtop Paper
CD InfoBase.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work the way I thought it did.

What I want to do is something like

   deldupe c:\mydocs d:\shareware

where there are a number of directories under \mydocs and \shareware.
Deldupe doesn't seem to see files farther down the directory structure.  I
tried variations like

   deldupe c:\mydocs\ d:\shareware
   deldupe c:\mydocs\*.* d:\shareware
   deldupe c:\mydocs\\ d:\shareware

None of these seem to work, at least under NT.

I've looked at other similar utilities on S.U.P.E.R. but they don't seem to
handle multiple drives.

Any suggestions on what I may be doing wrong or another utility that would
do what I need?

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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:38:17 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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An unlikely possibility is that names like D:\SHAREWARE have been
modified to D:\SHAREW~1 because of the differences between DOS/Win95-NT.

You might try sticking only to 8.3 filenames and see what happens.

Don Puscher wrote:
>
> While looking for a newer version of List at the Van Buerg site I came
> across Deldupe.  It's a utility for finding/deleting duplicate files across
> drives.  I've been looking for just such a utility to help me compare
> what's on my hard drive with what I now have available on the Palmtop Paper
> CD InfoBase.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work the way I thought it did.
>
> What I want to do is something like
>
>    deldupe c:\mydocs d:\shareware
>
> where there are a number of directories under \mydocs and \shareware.
> Deldupe doesn't seem to see files farther down the directory structure.  I
> tried variations like
>
>    deldupe c:\mydocs\ d:\shareware
>    deldupe c:\mydocs\*.* d:\shareware
>    deldupe c:\mydocs\\ d:\shareware
>
> None of these seem to work, at least under NT.
>
> I've looked at other similar utilities on S.U.P.E.R. but they don't seem to
> handle multiple drives.
>
> Any suggestions on what I may be doing wrong or another utility that would
> do what I need?
>
> Thanks,
> Don
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>
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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I (being somewhat addicted to little handheld computers since the Tandy
PC-2) have both a Palm
and the HP 200lx (100lx actually).  IMO they are the two best choices for
handheld use, mainly due
to their battery life which far exceeds the current crop of handhelds out
there.

The HP and the Palm are both very capable but in different ways, its ironic
that the HP is based on
Intel (IBM-PC) architecture and the Palm is based on the same chip found in
older Macintosh machines,
and that this ancestory carrys thru in their function.  The HP is more
versitle with its PCMCIA card slot,
IBM compatibility, 80x25 screen suited for wordprocessing / online etc.,
while the Palm is easier to
use, small enough for places even an HP cant be placed, is VERY actively
supported by 3rd party
software, and is vastly superior in connectivity (Hotsync) to a desktop
machine.

It all depends on what you want to use it for, if addresses, email, syncing
with a desktop, a pen interface
for drawing, etc. are your primary concerns the Palm wins due to these
features and its small size, but
if you need to run DOS software, telnet or other terminal applications, like
a keyboard over a pen, etc.
then the HP is the definite winner.

I am a huge fan of the HP, but ive found recently I use the palm functions
more as I tend to forget im
carrying it (vs forgetting to pick up my HP), and ive recently picked up a
Libretto which is performing
my more PC like tasks (i used telnet ALOT) instead of my HP.

Hope this helps,

Dan
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:37:16 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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This guy's post leads me to look for water in a new place.  Could it be
possible to use both a Palm and an HP in concert?  The idea is as
follows, your HP stays in your pocket and you hold the PP in your hand.
The two "talk" to each other with some sort of low (very low) power RF
connection supported buy the card slots in the two.  Both machines act
like one better machine with the benefits of the HP's advanced keyboard
and large memory, (assuming upgrade) multiple IO ports, and "DOS"
compatibility and the benefits of the PP's backlight, pin graphic input,
and hotsync features.  A person "armed" with both units, configured in
this way could enjoy the input features suiting the application of the
moment.  Sure, who wants to carry two units, sure _none_ of the
communication between the two exists, and I'm sure the number of users
would never justify the expense of design, but who keeps care of blind
horses anyway? :)

Phil

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Dan Ridenhour İSMTP:driden@STLNET.COM¨
>Sent:  Friday, February 05, 1999 4:16 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Re: Even a blind horse finds water once in a while....
>
>I (being somewhat addicted to little handheld computers since the Tandy
>PC-2) have both a Palm
>and the HP 200lx (100lx actually).  IMO they are the two best choices for
>handheld use, mainly due
>to their battery life which far exceeds the current crop of handhelds out
>there.
>
>The HP and the Palm are both very capable but in different ways, its ironic
>that the HP is based on
>Intel (IBM-PC) architecture and the Palm is based on the same chip found in
>older Macintosh machines,
>and that this ancestory carrys thru in their function.  The HP is more
>versitle with its PCMCIA card slot,
>IBM compatibility, 80x25 screen suited for wordprocessing / online etc.,
>while the Palm is easier to
>use, small enough for places even an HP cant be placed, is VERY actively
>supported by 3rd party
>software, and is vastly superior in connectivity (Hotsync) to a desktop
>machine.
>
>It all depends on what you want to use it for, if addresses, email, syncing
>with a desktop, a pen interface
>for drawing, etc. are your primary concerns the Palm wins due to these
>features and its small size, but
>if you need to run DOS software, telnet or other terminal applications, like
>a keyboard over a pen, etc.
>then the HP is the definite winner.
>
>I am a huge fan of the HP, but ive found recently I use the palm functions
>more as I tend to forget im
>carrying it (vs forgetting to pick up my HP), and ive recently picked up a
>Libretto which is performing
>my more PC like tasks (i used telnet ALOT) instead of my HP.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:47:47 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Your point about HotSync is a good one, and it used to bother me until
I realized that by keeping my appointment book on a PCMCIA flash card
I not only didn't have to `sync', I actually could use literally the
same data on my NT desktop and my Libretto (Win95) handheld as on my
HP200. Thus I never have to `Sync' any more, and I am always `up to
date' everywhere and can even use the identical software in all three of
these (otherwise rather different) worlds...

Rich C. Johnson wrote:
>
> I have both. The ONE feature the palm III has over the HP is Hot
> synch. I've tried a couple products for the HP but none come close to
> the ease and simplicity of the hot synch. Having said that.... I will
>
<snip>
>
> If we could just get a good (or even updated) synchronization tool I would be in HP nirvana.
>
> Rich
>

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:04:41 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

> My 2x/6mb 200LX did the same (usually after something crashed).
>
> I got the LXSTAT program from the SUPER site and call it during the =
autoexec:
>
>      LXSTAT N
>
> and this forces the NiCad setting.
>
> LXSTAT is a utility that does a host of LX related settings (displaying =
them
> and setting them)....very useful for automating some things.
>
> Often when my battery settings go awry, my contrast gets mucked up =
too... so
> my autoexec actually has:
>
>      LXSTAT N d c 22
>
> and this not only forces NiCad, but sets the Display Contrast to "22" =
which
> is about normal.

Hi Longden and Memebers

I just downloaded LXSTAT and would like to know how you came up with
your settings (N d c 22 )? There's no doc. file.



Regards,

Qman...

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>   deldupe c:\mydocs d:\shareware
Hi Don & List

I dont know about deldupe but I use DFL340...  I can upload it if you like..

Features..

Can search inside Zips for dupes.. ie what files are inside zip as well as
on the drive..can delete from inside a zip

Wildcard matching  ie *.exe only

Name,equal length,crc, byte by byte compare over multiple drives..

It works on the LX but have to assign or subst E: for A: as it wont search A:

Otherwise fast and very useful.

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Apologies all

I misread Dons original message..

Clonemaster does the same as DFL but under a windows95 environment..  If you
want it (Shareware) I can send

Regards

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WorldTime users/Geography buffs...

Here are a couple of Net sites that should... work well with www /lx =


http://www.mit.edu/geo   (uses a table to display data)

http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.simple.html  (gives options for=

no table support.)

See also:

http://www.ahip.getty.edu/tgn_browser/

Enjoy,
.ed.İTPP¨

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> Got it! I do not know. I assume it is the mapping. I also
> encountered it before when the server allows only MSIE and
> Netscape to access the pages.

Have you considered sending a "fake" browser id (aka Lynx).
I've had a couple of sites which have slammed the door because "your
browser does not support frames, here download a 50MB browser", arghhh.

Lynx pretends to be anything you like to pacify those _difficult_
sites.

And in case it hasn't been mentioned recently WWW/LX rocks (and I do
have the lastest version, just lack time to install it). Although the
London Underground is getting a little crowded to type <grin>.

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> WorldTime users/Geography buffs...
> Here are a couple of Net sites that should... work well with www /lx

I believe that from the USGS site you can download text files listing
geographic features in all fifty states of the US.  Very interesting info.
You'd need a huge flash card with Stacker on it to carry the info around
on the 200LX though.  <g>

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Hi. I own both currently.  They are both excellent in different
uses.  The 200LX if far better for serious word processing, email,
web browsing, etc.  The palm is better as a shopping list, to do list,
etc.  I can't give up either as I need both types of things.  If forced
to give up one I would get rid of the palm. :)

Brian S

At 10:28 AM 2/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, I went to this seminar yesterday and they had a Palm III organizer
>as a raffle....low and behold I won it!
>
>So, here I am with a brand new Palm III (2 MB memory, no modem) and my
>existing 200LX(2 MB Memory, w/modem).  I haven't opened the new unit; in
>case I decide to sell it.
>
>Has anyone ever owned both?  I am looking for comments on which one to
>keep.
>

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri,  5 Feb 1999 19:19:53 -0500 (EST)

01h28m25s ago ...
On Fri,  5 Feb 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> I just downloaded LXSTAT and would like to know how you came up with
> your settings (N d c 22 )? There's no doc. file.

Hi Qman---

Don't remember where I got my copy (probably the late Eddie site), but
it had a doc file.  I think I have it on my older palmtop (the 100LX).
When I find it I'll send it along...

-Peniel
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Larry, a boot will change the battery setting to Alkalines
each time. The rationale: It is easy to change to NiCDs,
but if you start charging Alkalines by mistake, you can
destroy the machine. There is another assumption hiding here, of
course: That you boot because you changed batteries.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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The Y2K bug is worse than I thought!

http://www.thesitefights.com/wepatrol/mil_bug.gif

cheers... Russ  :-)

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Angi Bemiss wrote:
>
> I recently purchased Greenwich Instruments' GA945-HP from Thaddeus.  I
> cannot get it to print my Lotus spreadsheets.  Can someone help?  Have
> you successfully printed from Lotus, and if so, what are your specific
> settings (inside Lotus or elsewhere)?
>
> It does print fine from PhoneBook.  When I try to print from Lotus, it
> seems to send the signal (because the light on my BJC80 starts
> flashing), but nothing ever comes out.  I have also tried it with other
> printers to no avail.
>
> Also, for others' information, the GA945-HP does not work well with an
> HP LaserJet 5L.  I confirmed this with Greenwich.  This isn't too
> surprising, tho, since the 5L has also had difficulty with my Dell
> Latitude laptop with Windows 95.  (a fact that HP confirms)
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> angi@reagan-assoc.com
>
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Angi, Bob here:

I have a greenwich inst printer cable (gspc) it works fine on all apps.

why don't you contact Thaddeus and speak to then they are pretty good

about that.(I did and they help me)

                  good luck  Bob

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scott smith wrote:
>
> Question for the group. I have a hp95lx and would like to printout a file i
> made in the lotus 123. Will the connectivity cord be used, or do i need some
> other cord to do the printing?. I ordered a connectivity cord from Thaddeus
> on 7th. January so it should arrive soon. The printer is an old IBM
> proprinter. Have a nice day. Scott
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Scott, Bob here:

I also have an hp95lx with a serial to parallel printer cable,it works
fine even prints
out all my 123 spreadsheets!!

when you get the cable from the connectivity pack the 9 pin side should
be female and
serial to parallel printer cable should be male, just hook them
together, and of course
check your config setup. From there it should work ok.

                  Best of Luck  Bob

ps: your next palmtop should be hp200lx it's the top of line.even going
aginst the
the win ce machines. I have a hp 200lx and hp 320lx, but i use the 200LX
99.99%
of the time. THE HP320LX STAYS IN THE BOX I DON'T USE IT ANY MORE. I use
my 95LX
now because my 200LX is being  upgraded (more memory)

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Paul Lusardi wrote:
>
> Well, I went to this seminar yesterday and they had a Palm III organizer
> as a raffle....low and behold I won it!
>
> So, here I am with a brand new Palm III (2 MB memory, no modem) and my
> existing 200LX(2 MB Memory, w/modem).  I haven't opened the new unit; in
> case I decide to sell it.
>
> Has anyone ever owned both?  I am looking for comments on which one to
> keep.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
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Paul, Bob here

 there is a question do you want a computer or PDA?

  TAKE IT FROM THERE

                  Bob

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David,

I have actually had a photo up since Jan 11th but at a different page
address (sorry). If you go to:

 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gary_Spiers/hp200lx.htm

there is a link to the Sagem site and to a photograph on my site. You
can also get details and pricing at David Shiers site:

http://www.shier.com/Sagem.html (the pricing info is available from a
link off the home page).

Dave is the first dealer for this phone in the US and is awaiting his
first shipment.

As an aside for those that are interested there are photographs of
several notorious palmtoppers on my site (including Andreas and Avi for =
instance).

GaryS

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Thanks. I was interested, that's why I wrote, and am now happy to
have a real URL...

Gary Spiers wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I have actually had a photo up since Jan 11th but at a different page
> address (sorry). If you go to:
>
>  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gary_Spiers/hp200lx.htm
>
> there is a link to the Sagem site and to a photograph on my site. You
> can also get details and pricing at David Shiers site:
>
> http://www.shier.com/Sagem.html (the pricing info is available from a
> link off the home page).
>
> Dave is the first dealer for this phone in the US and is awaiting his
> first shipment.
>
> As an aside for those that are interested there are photographs of
> several notorious palmtoppers on my site (including Andreas and Avi for instance).
>
> GaryS

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Take a look at the software available for it.
A well organized site is:
    www.eurocool.com
There is also an external keyboard for it (GoType?)
that includes a socket to plug the pilot in, front and center.
You could also lurk in alt.sys.palmtops.pilot.

Paul Lusardi wrote:

> Well, I went to this seminar yesterday and they had a Palm III organizer
> as a raffle....low and behold I won it!
>
> So, here I am with a brand new Palm III (2 MB memory, no modem) and my
> existing 200LX(2 MB Memory, w/modem).  I haven't opened the new unit; in
> case I decide to sell it.
>
> Has anyone ever owned both?  I am looking for comments on which one to
> keep.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
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> Hi Longden and Memebers
>
> I just downloaded LXSTAT and would like to know how you came up with
> your settings (N d c 22 )? There's no doc. file.

Found it! Its called LXSTAT.ASC.




Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Sat, 6 Feb 1999 08:24:23 -0800
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> _________________reply seperator
>
> I would just wait until someone comes out with a 486 upgrade for the LX. I
thnk
> thats more likely than a 186 pdf reader since Adobe only writes pdf readers
for
> windows and hasn't shown any intrest in writing one for the LX.
>
> John
>
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the LX processor will never be
upgraded.
Because of size, architecture and BIOS limitations, the LX cannot accept a new
processor. If someone knows of a acrobat reader for Linux, or has the
documentation
on the acrobat format, I might write a reader.

------------------------------

-----------reply seperator----

I disagree--a 486 upgrade is perfectly viable. Of course a direct swapping of
chips is impossible because of the one chip XT form factor and pinout--And the
bios would need to be upgraded to work with an AT but the only reason there is
no 486 200LX upgrade is simply because no one has built one yet not because its
impossible. Go look at stanford.edu/wearables--that board would accually fit
were the 200LX's board is. The 200LX is far from dead<g>. Shoot, what I'd be
concerned about, is not whether it can be done, is once someone does come out
with an upgrade is will it have enough memory to keep these bloated large
memory model, protected mode programs in storage. They are huge!!!  Anyway if
your interested in looking at source and pdf format go check out
www.ghostscript.com. They've got source and pdf format links. Ghostscript is a
pretty good reader and it does postscript too but it needs a 286 at least for
protected mode. And of course it's *huge*. How about a postscript/pdf reader
thats only a couple hundred k in size? That runs in a small memory model? Is
that possible?

John

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I looked at the thing again and it does look like a peizo. Why is it so quiet
though? It has 8 volts going to it. And why is it louder with headphones?

John




---------------orginal message-----------
>Doesn't a peizo just use a different cone? They still use a magnet and coil
>don't they?


A peizoelectric speaker is probably as thick as three sheets of notebook
paper, with maybe another sheets thickness in the center.  They're metal,
circular, with the inner section being about 50% of the diameter.

They don't 'move', they vibrate.  I believe they are capable of putting out
a greater volume with more clairity for their volume (cm¬3) than anything
else, thus they are used when a 'loud' volume (dB) in a small volume (cm¬3)
is required.  :)  Loud, meaning a tiny little speaker like cellphones have
can't quite match the output of a peizo, but that might have changed.

Anyone know what the 660 uses, that darn thing is LOUD.

--
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Date:         Sat, 6 Feb 1999 08:55:19 -0800
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1999-02-05-00:18:39 John Musielewicz:
>> Why not port the Lotus PIM software over.

>If you mean, the stuff in the ROM of the LX, I'd say lack of source code would
be why. Is there some other Lotus PIM stuff with source code available?

There's another Lotus PIM it's on the TI Avigo and comes with the 1999 Palmtop
Paper CD--I don't know if source is availible, tho.

>As I've been continuing to think about this, I'm guessing that the best way
to tuck seriously functional PIM sw into 64K+64K wads would be to come up
with a really really tiny, tight UI lib, a tiny database lib, and others as
necessary, rig 'em with rpc-style interfaces so apps that want to use 'em need
only teensy stubs, and run 'em as daemons.

What's a daemon? Isn't it a welsh demon<g>? Are you saying you want to hex your
computer<g>?

>If I had something that worked like the HP's database (incl. phonebook),
something that worked like its appt mgr, and a Vertical Reader, I think I
could live in Minix on the LX, until I got the rest of my goodies written.
Wouldn't that be cool!

Yes that would be!!

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Sorry if this was posted twice.

> _________________reply seperator
>
> I would just wait until someone comes out with a 486 upgrade for the LX. I
thnk
> thats more likely than a 186 pdf reader since Adobe only writes pdf readers
for
> windows and hasn't shown any intrest in writing one for the LX.
>
> John
>
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the LX processor will never be
upgraded.
Because of size, architecture and BIOS limitations, the LX cannot accept a new
processor. If someone knows of a acrobat reader for Linux, or has the
documentation
on the acrobat format, I might write a reader.

------------------------------

-----------reply seperator----

I disagree--a 486 upgrade is perfectly viable. Of course a direct swapping of
chips is impossible because of the one chip XT form factor and pinout--And the
bios would need to be upgraded to work with an AT but the only reason there is
no 486 200LX upgrade is simply because no one has built one yet not because
 its
impossible. Go look at stanford.edu/wearables--that board would accually fit
were the 200LX's board is. The 200LX is far from dead<g>. Shoot, what I'd be
concerned about, is not whether it can be done, is once someone does come out
with an upgrade is will it have enough memory to keep these bloated large
memory model, protected mode programs in storage. They are huge!!!  Anyway if
your interested in looking at source and pdf format go check out
www.ghostscript.com. They've got source and pdf format links. Ghostscript is a
pretty good reader and it does postscript too but it needs a 286 at least for
protected mode. And of course it's *huge*. How about a postscript/pdf reader
thats only a couple hundred k in size? That runs in a small memory model? Is
that possible?

John

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Hi all

I understand there is a software development kit available for the 200lx
but my enquiries to HP have had no results.

Could someone enlighten me as what is in the kit etc etc.

All help gratefully received.

Thanks

--
David Wood :) mailto:d.wood@thermoteknix.co.uk mailto:d.wood@iee.org
work : http://www.thermoteknix.co.uk   Queen's award for Export 1998
play : http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/2640 (updated 3 June 1998)
I try to live one day at a time, but lately several days have attacked me at once.
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Glad you found it Quinton.

Also, if you just type "lxstat ?", the program will display all the available
options.

Great stuff written by Rudi (aka Nan-shan Chen), a former list member who
dropped out of site a while back, and a former 'vi' editor fanatic.... (OK,
Laust...yet another vi 'plug' <g>).

- Longden





Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> on 02/06/99 03:21:51 AM

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> Hi Longden and Memebers
>
> I just downloaded LXSTAT and would like to know how you came up with
> your settings (N d c 22 )? There's no doc. file.

Found it! Its called LXSTAT.ASC.

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DUE TO STUDY OVERLOAD, I NEED TO TEMPORARILY UNSUBSCRIBE UNTIL NOVEMBER 99.

IF THIS LIST CHANGES SITE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW !!!

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              Ron Levesque <RLevesque@LANOPTICS.COM>
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After cleaning out my closet, I decided to part with my HP 86B computer. It is
NOT a MS-DOS base X86 PC, it's a HP "technical computer". For those you who know
what this is, I also have the HP 9121 external drives and other accessories for
this computer. If interested send me an email off-line.

PS: I hope I'm not intruding here, but I am an original owner of the 95LX and
currently have 2 200LX's(not for sale).

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Date:         Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:33:29 -0800
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              Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Do you want to trade?

I have an External SparQ drive with 4 1GB carttridges.  (Cost $350 brand
new... mine is mint, but used).  Do you want to trade my SparQ drive and 4
carttridges for your 2MB 200LX (without the 14.4 modem... I already have 2).
Tell me what you think! =)

        Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 2:39 PM
Subject: FS: HP 200lx 2mb RAM mint condition, and more.


>All,
>
>I have an HP200lx 2mb Model for sale, it is in mint condition with all
>original
>manuals and packaging included, as well as an X-Jack 14.4 PCMCIA modem,
>all for the low price of $250 + shipping OBO.
>
>Let me know if you are interested.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Ridenhour
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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This has nothing to do with the LX but just thought you'd like to know...=


Here's a company that gives away a complete Office 97 clone: =


www.stardivision.com

According to the Chronicle of Higher Ed., several universities are lookin=
g
at this as a $1k replacement for MS's $5M+ upgrades. It's free for
individual use and downloadable (62Megs). =

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              Charlie McNeil <ctmcneil@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hi Tony-
Thanks for the offer, but a sale is pending on the 200LX.

Regards,
Charlie McNeil

ctmcneil@ix.netcom.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: FS: HP 200lx 2mb RAM mint condition, and more.


>Do you want to trade?
>
>I have an External SparQ drive with 4 1GB carttridges.  (Cost $350 brand
>new... mine is mint, but used).  Do you want to trade my SparQ drive and 4
>carttridges for your 2MB 200LX (without the 14.4 modem... I already have
2).
>Tell me what you think! =)
>
>        Tony
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 2:39 PM
>Subject: FS: HP 200lx 2mb RAM mint condition, and more.
>
>
>>All,
>>
>>I have an HP200lx 2mb Model for sale, it is in mint condition with all
>>original
>>manuals and packaging included, as well as an X-Jack 14.4 PCMCIA modem,
>>all for the low price of $250 + shipping OBO.
>>
>>Let me know if you are interested.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dan Ridenhour
>>driden@stlnet.com
>>
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>
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I updated the LXTEL database with the brandnew tariffs. It is
included in the LXTEL.ZIP file available on my homepage:

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lxtel.zip

The competition on the German telephone market shows some
really strange development: It is cheaper to make a phone call
to the US than a long distance call within Germany, not to talk
about a call to Europe. Not a good start for the EURO idea ;-)

If you live in the US or Canada and have relatives or friends
in Germany, tell them to pre-dial 01085 and they can call you
for $10/hour at any time of day!

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I've got a parallel port PCMCIA drive for sale, with manual and driver
diskette.
It's a Memorex CardMate. It works great. You plug it into your desktop, and
it sees your flash card like another drive on your PC.

I'll sell it to the person who's e-mail I receive first. It's only $45 plus
COD.

Mike...

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> processor. If someone knows of a acrobat reader for Linux, or has the =
documentation
> on the acrobat format, I might write a reader.

Acrobat 2.1
Uses LZW compression
No font compression
Subsets TrueType only
PDF files opened by Acrobat viewers 3.0 and earlier

Acrobat 3.0
Uses ZIP compression
Compresses fonts
Subsets Type 1 and TrueType
PDF files opened by Acrobat viewers 3.0 and later

--
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     All,

     Received this from Aladdin in response to this:

     Greetings,

     I use an HP200lx palmtop computer and would like to view .PDF files on
     same. Ghostscript was suggested as a way to do this, however the
     manual shown on http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ shows the DOS version
     requirement as 80386 or greater.

     The HP200lx is a palmtop computer based in the 80186(XT compatible)
     running under(DOS portion) DOS 5.0 in ROM with a true CGA LCD screen.
     I have available >25MB on flash card(your manual shows an installation
     of ~5.5MB).

     Is there another version of Ghostscript that can run on the 200lx and
     is available?

     Any help appreciated!

     TIA

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com



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Does anyone have or know of a copy of Alpha4 which is palmtop
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     All,

     Received this from Aladdin in response to this:

     Greetings,

     I use an HP200lx palmtop computer and would like to view .PDF files on
     same. Ghostscript was suggested as a way to do this, however the
     manual shown on http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ shows the DOS version
     requirement as 80386 or greater.

     The HP200lx is a palmtop computer based in the 80186(XT compatible)
     running under(DOS portion) DOS 5.0 in ROM with a true CGA LCD screen.
     I have available >25MB on flash card(your manual shows an installation
     of ~5.5MB).

     Is there another version of Ghostscript that can run on the 200lx and
     is available?

     Any help appreciated!

     TIA

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com



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Some very old versions of Ghostscript can run on 8086/80186-class machines,
but they are so old that they do not have PDF reading capability.  Sorry,
I'm afraid you're out of luck.

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5 days 10h50m52s ago ...
On Mon,  1 Feb 1999 08:59:03 -0600 (CMT), Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAG=
ENET.COM> wrote:

Good try.  When you said that, I remeber hearing something about that.
I have 3 phones (2 of them cordless) in the house.

I tried unplugging them all, but still no recognising the ring tone.

My guess is that because the suburb I live in is over 50 years old, the
telephone system is not compatible with the new modem from the USA.

The work building is in a newer suburb.

It doesn't bother me anymore, as the X1 switch worked...


Thank you
David Eggins

> You probably have too many phones plugged in to your home service.  =
Each
> <snip>

> <snip>
> >But my modem does not recognise the dial tone using either
> >my palmtop or the laptop when at home!  I can actually hear
> ><snip>
>
>

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Hi all,

I was browsing alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp, and noticed a thread discussing
the fact WinCE units (or in this specific case, Jornada) have to be
perodically reset, or else the system becomes slow and out of memory.

Apparently, The WinCE OS cannot reclaim memory, so if a program forgets to
release some memory, that's just too bad...

Says a lot about the OS, doesn't it?


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Hello

I am using a laptop with NT4.0 SP4, and also a HP200LX.

I have a Simpletech 48mb Compact flash card with PCMCIA adapter.

I have no problems using the flash card in the HP200LX, or a friends
laptop with Win95.

I cannot get the card to show up as a drive letter in winNT.  The
PCMCIA card is recognised correctly in Control Panel|PCMCIA.

Apparently I have to make sure that MS Flash File System is installed.
Where do I get this from, and how do I know if it is installed?

Any help in gettig this card recognised would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

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I put a password on my pocket quicken file and then was not able to use =
my 200lx for 4 days. I have forgotten what it is and have no access. =
Please Help.

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On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, dwood wrote:

> I understand there is a software development kit available for the
> 200lx but my enquiries to HP have had no results.

Thaddeus Computing sells it in many forms.  The printed version, the
Windows version on their 1999 CD Infobase, and the HTML version (usable on
the 200LX) also on the 1999 CD Infobase.  In addition, there's NKIT, an
EXM development tool (on www.palmtop.net) and LXREF (reference package for
the 200LX) at www.comports.com/hplx.  Those pretty much cover the
palmtop hardware and programming for the System Manager.  There's also
PAL, the Palmtop Application Library, which allows you to simulate the
System Manager "look and feel" with DOS programs.

Also, there were some articles in "PDA Developers" magazine about System
Manager programming, PAL programming, and the database structure many of
the 200LX apps use.  I don't have the URL handy, but I believe it was at
something like www.cdbooks.com...  anybody remember?

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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Hi all
>
> I understand there is a software development kit available for the =
200lx
> but my enquiries to HP have had no results.
>
> Could someone enlighten me as what is in the kit etc etc.

It's a manual called The HP 100LX/200LX Developer's Guide with all
technical information and a SDK for development of EXM programs.
Thaddeus is selling this development kit and you can either get a hard
copy or their Infobase CD-ROM.

Regarding the SDK for EXM development, you should instead use the
Japanese NKIT available on SUPER- www.palmtop.net. This SDK works with
Borland Turbo C and is much easier to use.

Regards,


Jorgen

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Can anybody give an idea about when it is the right time for replacing
      bakup batteries?
Thank you...

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> I understand there is a software development kit available for the =
200lx
> but my enquiries to HP have had no results.

Check out thaddeus.com

Ron

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Date:         Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:35:12 +0800
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>Can anybody give an idea about when it is the right time for
replacing
>bakup batteries?Thank you...


To be conservative, and for what they cost I recommend once
a year. What price can you put on peace of mind and data security 8-)

Regards.....Liam
Bunbury, Western  Australia

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Date:         Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:32:53 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Bulent Bicioglu wrote:

> Can anybody give an idea about when it is the right time for replacing
>       bakup batteries?

If you mean the lithium battery in the LX, I usually replace mine when the
LX complains about the backup battery voltage being low. My 95LX ran for
more than a year on its lithium battery, and come to think of it, so did
my 200LX (still does in fact).


Cheers,

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Can anybody give an idea about when it is the right time for replacing
>       bakup batteries?

Since the battery is not very expensive I would recommend
replacing it at least once a year.  However, if you ever let
your main batteries get really low, and the backup battery comes
into use to preserve the ram, I would suggest replacing the
backup, along with the mains, ahead of schedule.

Remember, it is far better to replace a good backup battery than
to need to rely on a less than healthy one.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:55:40 -0500
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Star Office is NOT a MS-Office 97 clone. Star Office is a comparable office
suite program (it will read and write in MS-Office 97 formats), but is it's
own product just like Wordperfect Suite and Lotus Suite.

Sorry to rant, but those of us in the Linux world are especially sensitive
when a product we use gets equated with anything Microsoft. Also, It is free
only for non-commercial personal use.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 4:35 PM
Subject: Not the only game in town...


>This has nothing to do with the LX but just thought you'd like to know...
>
>Here's a company that gives away a complete Office 97 clone:
>
>www.stardivision.com
>
>According to the Chronicle of Higher Ed., several universities are looking
>at this as a $1k replacement for MS's $5M+ upgrades. It's free for
>individual use and downloadable (62Megs).
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>Ghostscript is a
>pretty good reader and it does postscript too but it needs a 286 at least
for
>protected mode. And of course it's *huge*. How about a postscript/pdf
reader
>thats only a couple hundred k in size? That runs in a small memory model?
Is
>that possible?


On my old XT-days I used GoScript very well. It is a postscript interpreter
similar to Ghostscript. And it is not huge.

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Hi everybody

I don't know if this has been brought up before but has anyone been able to IR
print in WP using the serial port settings. I find the only way I can is by
setting the port setting to LPT1 then redirecting it to Com1 using the mode
command. It works but its slightly clumbsy--gotta redirct the lpt port then set
the mode for com1 when WP has it in the setup. Just curious.

John

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Subject:      Transfile backups always fail..

I've been trying to get Transfile to make a backup of my 200LX, with
absolutely no luck.  I've tried 57.6K down to 19.2K, always the same result:

It goes so far transferring, then says it lost connection to the palmtop, I
Okay that, it says something of the file name is illegal, I okay that, I
tell it to retry, usually two of the last two steps, and it'll restart.
Then 100K down the transfer again, it pops up the same stuff.

Transfers to/from the palmtop seem to work just fine, just backups don't
work right for some reason.

Possibly related, but I *still* can't get Bitcomm or Hyperterminal (yuck) to
talk to the HP without first connecting with Transfile, exiting Transfile,
then going into the comm program.  Really odd, but the PC won't talk to the
palmtop otherwise.  (And the weird thing is, I swear a few days ago the
palmtop couldn't talk to the PC, I'll have to look at my post from a week
ago or so..)  BTW, I'm using a CD rom connector cable that's worked fine for
two years on my other computer, just has four connections.

Anyone have any suggestions, or a better backup method?

Thanks!

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Does anyone know if it's possible to run Windows 3.0 to add Dos applications
under Windows. I've tried various DOS programs via add program item but
nothing seems to run except other Windows applications like Excel.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Subject:      Re: Not the only game in town...

   >Star Office is NOT a MS-Office 97 clone. Star Office is a
   >comparable office suite program (it will read and write in
   >MS-Office 97 formats), but is it's own product just like
   >Wordperfect Suite and Lotus Suite.
   >Sorry to rant, but those of us in the Linux world are especially
   >sensitive when a product we use gets equated with anything
   >Microsoft. Also, It is free only for non-commercial personal use.
Message-Id: <19990207210811.GRVW8151@İ12.72.154.68¨>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:08:11 +0000

Does it offer the LX user any special benefits? I mean, installed on a
desktop, are there special import/export features or comm features that
would recommend it for the LX?

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: Printing in Wp 5.1
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>I don't know if this has been brought up before but has anyone been able to
IR
>print in WP using the serial port settings. I find the only way I can is by
>setting the port setting to LPT1 then redirecting it to Com1 using the mode
>command. It works but its slightly clumbsy--gotta redirct the lpt port then
set
>the mode for com1 when WP has it in the setup. Just curious.


Try /Port/Others and type in COM1 as a filename (the difference is, that it
will print through bios or dos to the com1-port). Just try it.

-goe-

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scott smith wrote:
>
> Question for the group. I have a hp95lx and would like to printout a file i
> made in the lotus 123. Will the connectivity cord be used, or do i need some
> other cord to do the printing?. I ordered a connectivity cord from Thaddeus
> on 7th. January so it should arrive soon. The printer is an old IBM
> proprinter. Have a nice day. Scott
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Scott!   The test for the HP200LX is the same for the HP95LX holding
down the esc key

And pressing the on key, then letting both go. Your display should have
all the components in the system,then you press the space bar to tag
each of the test you wish to
Perform.

Do not test the serial port yet I will explain later when you receive
your cable.

By the way your printer cable should be a GREENWICH INSTRUMENTS SERIAL
TO
PARALLEL PRINTER CABLE. You can buy it from THADDEUS COMPUTING for
$69.95 that is the cable I use and have no trouble printing from HP95LX
in any apps.

Of course we are on line with other HPLX users and if you ask them for
recommendation
You will get a number of good cables to use.

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Bulent Bicioglu wrote:
>
> Can anybody give an idea about when it is the right time for replacing
>       bakup batteries?
> Thank you...
>
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Bulent Bicioglu:

What I would do go to the appointment book and write a little note to
youself to
change your batt a year from now!!of course you must have a new or
fairly good
one to start with when the alarm goes off change batt on problem even if
it show still
good,don't take chances with your data!!!!

                             Bob

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Jim Sanders wrote:
>
> Does anyone have or know of a copy of Alpha4 which is palmtop
> compatible and would be willing to sell?
> Thanks
>
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Jim !! I Think I HAVE ALPHA4 I din't know but i will look.
BY THE WAY HOW WOULD I KNOW IF IT'S COMPATIBLE TO THE LX
JUST LOAD IT AND RUN IT??

PS: The ONE I THINK I HAVE IS A DOS VERS

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> Scott!   The test for the HP200LX is the same for the HP95LX holding
> down the esc key
>
> And pressing the on key, then letting both go. Your display should have
> all the components in the system,then you press the space bar to tag
> each of the test you wish to
> Perform.
>

WARNING!

For the 100/200 the CARD TEST should NOT be run on any FLASHCARDS.  It
was meant for RAMcards and can mess up and lose all data on FLASHcards.

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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:24:40 -0500, aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote:

> Does anyone know if it's possible to run Windows 3.0 to add Dos applicat=
ions
> under Windows. I've tried various DOS programs via add program item but
> nothing seems to run except other Windows applications like Excel.

Hi Tony Guzewicz,

DOS programs will run under Win30 from Program Manger. but you must =
create a
Pif for it just run Pif Editor.

BTW: In the setting set KB Limit to -1
Display Options text
Prevent Program Swithing
No Screen Exchange

I might have missed a few setting but a DOS program will run.

HTH
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I have Alpha Four for DOS (an OUTSTANDING database) running on my 200LX
using Software Carousel. I think that any DOS version of Alpha Four will
work. In my opinion the DOS versions were better than the windoze
versions anyway.

Jim Sanders wrote:

> Does anyone have or know of a copy of Alpha4 which is palmtop
> compatible and would be willing to sell?
> Thanks
>
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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>>I don't know if this has been brought up before but has anyone been able to
IR
>print in WP using the serial port settings. I find the only way I can is by
>setting the port setting to LPT1 then redirecting it to Com1 using the mode
>command. It works but its slightly clumbsy--gotta redirct the lpt port then
set
>the mode for com1 when WP has it in the setup. Just curious.<<


>Try /Port/Others and type in COM1 as a filename (the difference is, that it
will print through bios or dos to the com1-port). Just try it.<

It worked. It prints really slow compared to the other way though. About a
minute per line compared to 2-3 minutes per page. I have a 48k buffer on the
printer too but it doesn't seem to be using it. Thanks.

John

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From: "A Pedersen" <axelpede@nospamplease.online.no>
Subject: Q: Think my IRDA in my Omnigo700XL is broken
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:01:03 -0800

Hello Folks,  a question :

I have a palmtop 100LX and an Omnigo700LX , i tried to connect them using
IR ports and running "Datacomm"  ( also tried "Filemanager" ).
Only the Omnigo700 is able to recive data frome the 100LX.
Then 100LX doe's not recive data from the Omnigo700.

Q: Are the 100LX not compatible whit the Omnigo700 IR port ?

( or is the IR SENDER on the Omnigo broken ? )

BTW: anyone know who to open a Omnigo ?
( are there screws under the rubber-foots ?
  warenty-seal have to be broken, yes )




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Date:         Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:30:32 -0700
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I have a HP95lx and wondered if there is such a thing as a "mini" printer
that would work with the palmtop. Would be nice for when i'm mobile. Scott

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From: Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 8:36 PM
Subject: TECH: Mains power faster than batteries?


There's probably a really simple reason for this, but my HP
200LX runs faster when it's plugged into the mains, than it
does on batteries. It's only really noticeable with
processor-intensive stuff (e.g. graphics), but I was
wondering why this was the case - or is my palmtop the odd
one out?!


Lite sleep is on when power is unplugged. But it can be disabled with any
number of progs. I use lxstat d/l'able from SUPER. I think I type lxstat l
0.

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 9:20 AM
Subject: slowing down a fast computer


>Was is on the HPLX list that I saw a program mentioned to slow down a too
>fast computer in order to use programswhich have difficulties with high
>speed computers. My spellchecker SS does not work with my new setup.
>
It's called "mo-slow". Not sure where I d/l'd it, though.

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-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: speaker volume


>I'm surprised that it works as well as it does, but it's pretty neat.
>
>I have a page up describing the process of installing an external speaker
>jack, in the "Hardware Hacking" section of my site.
>
>Unfortunately, replacing the speaker doesn't improve the quality of
>sound-- only volume.  Programs that play digitized sounds through the PC
>speaker still sound pretty bad.
>
I remember that the trick in the PC days was to put a coffe cup partly over
the PC speaker for rich sound at better volume. Should work fine for the LX,
if you are finished your coffe.

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For sale :
- HP-100LX / 1MB / french version (help files only translated)
- 5 MB HP Flash card with stacker installed (giving up to 10 Megs)
- hand crafted custom leather case with pen holder
- about 15 1.44MB floppies of DOS softwares
- custom serial link cable for PC

Price : 1700 FRF + shipping

To contact me :
Pierre.VIGNACQ@tubomeca.fr
Pevey@wanadoo.fr

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Don't know if it would work with the palmtop but the smallest printer I know
of is the Pentax Pocketjet.  Look at their web sites for details.  It guess
it will be parallel only, so you'd be needing a converter.

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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Try a Pentax Pocket Jet. Runs on Fax paper. It is serial and
plugged into the HP200LX using a special cable from Shier
Systems. I've had it for 2 years, real tiny, around
350-400 US$ though.

> I have a HP95lx and wondered if there is such a thing as a "mini" =
printer
> that would work with the palmtop. Would be nice for when i'm mobile. =
Scott
>
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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Darren Frick wrote:

> I remember that the trick in the PC days was to put a coffe cup partly over
> the PC speaker for rich sound at better volume.


I suppose the sound would then be "the richest, most aromatic" kind?

<ducks and runs>

Ted

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Michael, the 200LX is the same as the 100LX for the purposes
of the IR port and the Remote Commander.  What makes you think
it does not work on the 200LX?  Have you tried it yourself?
If you mean that the trouble is with a double speed 200LX,
then you just need the newer version available at
www.palmtop.net (I think).

As for that Stacked flash card, I would like to see you get
rid of Stacker of you can afford to lose the storage space.
Without Stacker, the disk will read and write faster and you
will recover about 45K of valuable system RAM.  To remove
Stacker, you need to copy all of the data off the card that
you can.  Then reboot and press the Alt key to get the boot
menu.  Select the choice to not process the startup files.
This will boot but not load the Stacker driver.  Then use the
D:\DOS\format command to redo the flashdisk without Stacker.
All that is left is to put a new CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
on the new A: drive and reboot.

Here are examples to work from:

CONFIG.SYS

files=45
buffers=20
break=off
shell=d:\dos\command.com  /p  d:\dos

AUTOEXEC.BAT

set comspec=d:\dos\command.com
path D:\dos;D:\bin
prompt $p$g
c:
cd \_dat
200

> PS : Has anyone noticed that duracell batteries will recharge in the HP200lx
> while on deskpower?  I know this is probably bad - but my AA last up to
> 6months before needing to be changed (when they drain completely)

NO!  Do not set the battery type to NiCd and enable charging
with any kind of alkaline batteries in the palmtop.  You are
playing with wire and run a very real risk of the batteries
leaking or exploding and damaging the palmtop.  The supposed
recharging of alkaline batteries is done in a very special
charger that pulses the batteries and carefully monitors the
process.  The palmtop's charging process is entirely different.


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> I have a HP95lx and wondered if there is such a thing as a "mini" =
printer
> that would work with the palmtop. Would be nice for when i'm mobile. =
Scott
>
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>

Hi,

I use the HP deskjet 340.  I have two batteries that I use for it.  I
also use it for my laptop, with color.  The nice part is the printer
prints hundreds of documents per battery.  Pentex also makes a portable
printer that is smaller than my HP, but I don't know how long the
battery last, or how much the print cartridges cost.  My HP uses
standard HP printer cartridges.



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     Date: 02/07/99 01:57
     From: jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM@hub
     Subject: Re: Ghostscript for DOS?

     All,

     Received this from Aladdin in response to this:

     Greetings,

     I use an HP200lx palmtop computer and would like to view .PDF files on
     same. Ghostscript was suggested as a way to do this, however the
     manual shown on http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ shows the DOS version
     requirement as 80386 or greater.

     The HP200lx is a palmtop computer based in the 80186(XT compatible)
     running under(DOS portion) DOS 5.0 in ROM with a true CGA LCD screen.
     I have available >25MB on flash card(your manual shows an installation
     of ~5.5MB).

     Is there another version of Ghostscript that can run on the 200lx and
     is available?

     Any help appreciated!

     TIA

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com



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     Subject: Re: Ghostscript for DOS?
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     Some very old versions of Ghostscript can run on 8086/80186-class
     machines, but they are so old that they do not have PDF reading
     capability.  Sorry, I'm afraid you're out of luck.

     --

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     To counter these over-cautious and wasteful recommendations, I would
say it depends entirely on the voltage of the battery.  If you have used the
same backup battery for 5 years and it still reads 2.90 volts, keep on using
it.

     Lithium battery chemistry is extremely stable and the manufacturers
speak with confidence of 10 year shelf lives.  For the most part, the time a
backup battery spends in the palmtop IS shelf life.  It doesn't get used at
all unless there is no other power available.  So when you replace the AA
batteries before they are completely dead or while on the A/C adapter, the
backup battery is just waiting -- not working.  Okay, yes, there is about 3
seconds when you have one AA out of the system, but the palmtop is turned
off so the current draw is very small.

>From:  Bulent Bicioglu İSMTP:bbicioglu1@MMM.COM¨
>Sent:  Sunday, February 07, 1999 5:29 AM
>
>Can anybody give an idea about when it is the right time for replacing
>      bakup batteries?

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:10:36 -0500
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Subject:      deleting database catagories

How can I delete a database category that I no longer use? I've had my HP for 5 years and my phone book categories could stand a bit of pruning.
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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:31:55 -0800
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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: miniture printer
Comments: To: Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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do you use the 340 with a cable or infrared printing

> ----------
> From:         Robert HockingİSMTP:hocking@FLASH.NET¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Robert Hocking
> Sent:         Monday, February 08, 1999 5:19 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: miniture printer
>
> > I have a HP95lx and wondered if there is such a thing as a "mini"
> printer
> > that would work with the palmtop. Would be nice for when i'm mobile.
> Scott
> >
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> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I use the HP deskjet 340.  I have two batteries that I use for it.  I
> also use it for my laptop, with color.  The nice part is the printer
> prints hundreds of documents per battery.  Pentex also makes a portable
> printer that is smaller than my HP, but I don't know how long the
> battery last, or how much the print cartridges cost.  My HP uses
> standard HP printer cartridges.
>
>
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:59:14 -0500
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Greetings All:

     I have just updated the archives at:

http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

Please notify me of any problems.

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:16:20 PST
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              William Korn <william.korn@EXCITE.COM>
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Sounds like Walter Francis and I have the same problem.  I recently bought a
300MHz IBM Thinkpad 600 with Windows 98 installed.  I downloaded Transfile
200 from HP (file tf103) and started backing up my 200lx (8meg, double
speed).  Part way through the back up Transfile gave me a "No connection to
HP palmtop.  1) Check cable...  2) Enable server mode..." message and then
an error message "Could not open {filename}".  After pushing the appropriate
software buttons the back up would continue for a bit and then repeat the
messages.  I have tried all the available baud rates from 4800 to 57600 with
similar results.  The program hangs at different places during the back up
and I have changed cables and tried to back up with a different 200lx to no
avail.  Both the 200s back up fine on my old Thinkpad 760 with Windows 95,
so I think the problem must be in Windows 98 unless the Thinkpad 600 is too
"fast" for the software.

Any help will be deeply appreciated as I desperately need the machines to
communicate.

Thanks,
Bill

On         Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:09:56 -0500, Walter Francis wrote:

> I've been trying to get Transfile to make a backup of my 200LX, with
> absolutely no luck.  I've tried 57.6K down to 19.2K, always the same
result:
>
> It goes so far transferring, then says it lost connection to the palmtop,
I
> Okay that, it says something of the file name is illegal, I okay that, I
> tell it to retry, usually two of the last two steps, and it'll restart.
> Then 100K down the transfer again, it pops up the same stuff.
>
> Transfers to/from the palmtop seem to work just fine, just backups don't
> work right for some reason.
>
> Possibly related, but I *still* can't get Bitcomm or Hyperterminal (yuck)
to
> talk to the HP without first connecting with Transfile, exiting
Transfile,
> then going into the comm program.  Really odd, but the PC won't talk to
the
> palmtop otherwise.  (And the weird thing is, I swear a few days ago the
> palmtop couldn't talk to the PC, I'll have to look at my post from a week
> ago or so..)  BTW, I'm using a CD rom connector cable that's worked fine
for
> two years on my other computer, just has four connections.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions, or a better backup method?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Walter Francis  KT4LH
> http://sac.uky.edu/~wally
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:33:13 -0700
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              John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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From:         John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Transfile backups always fail..
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Greetings,

  I am not sure if this is related, but I am sure the info will be
valuable to many.  I have been using the connectivity pack to backup
my 200lx to my desktop at work.  After we upgraded our virus software
to McAfee/Network Associates 4.x engine, the backup would complain
severely about not being able to read or copy files.  If you have this
type of thing happening, you might just disable virus checking while
you are performing the backup.

john
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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:27:16 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Subject:      Deleting database category
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>>How do I delete a database category?

Go to the category field in the Item View, pull down the list, cursor to
the option and press DEL. (You can't delete the option from the input
line.)  If the limit of 32 options really is a limitation, consider that
the category field is really a bunch of Check boxes in disguise. You can
substitute one for the other. =


.ed.İTPP¨

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:46:19 -0500
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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>Date:    Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:04:15 +0100
>From:    Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
>Subject: FLUFF: I never thought it was _this_ bad...
>
>Hi all,
>
>I was browsing alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp, and noticed a thread
discussing
>the fact WinCE units (or in this specific case, Jornada) have to
be
>perodically reset, or else the system becomes slow and out of
memory.
>
>Apparently, The WinCE OS cannot reclaim memory, so if a program
forgets to
>release some memory, that's just too bad...
>
>Says a lot about the OS, doesn't it?

Yeah, that happens to our UltraSPARCs when we run our network
design tool, except it eats up disk space too!

I've also noticed that happening with some Java applets, where
the language's GC doesn't GC.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:50:44 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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I just noticed a latch problem on my HP200LX.  It is fairly new, about
a year old.  I've read about people having problems with their latch
spring not being strong enough, but I don't think this is my problem.
It almost seems like the latch isn't catching quite right, although I
can't see what is wrong.  I've tried inserting a small piece of rubber
band behind the latch, and this seems to help.  But it doesn't inspire
confidence - it is almost that the slightly increased force has wedged
the latch tighter in the slot, and not that the mechanism is now
actually latching.

-Chris

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R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:10:32 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
Subject:      FLUFF OFF TOPIC  Windows V Mem Management
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Hi All

From a wintips list Apparently the disk swap file in Win 9x only
grows..Never shrinks..until reboot if windows manages memory..seems to have
continued to CE versions..

Long live the LX  :))

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:59:43 -0500
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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From:         "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
Subject:      Re: Deleting database category
Comments: To: EdwardKeefe@compuserve.com

Thank-you! I didn't know you could do that. After 5 years I'm still learning things about my good ol' HP.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:34:38 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Just found this post on the newsgroup.


--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:43:37 +0100
From: Susanne Moehring <smoehring@easy-use.de>
To: "William A. Korn" <longled@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Transfile 200 & Windows 98

William,
you have to deactivate FIFO in Windows98. You can find this option under
Systemsettings and then Interfaces, COM-Port. Sorry that I do not know =
the
exact menu descriptions as I use a German version of Windows.
If you use Windows98 and Transfile with FIFO activated the serial port of
your Thinkpad "overruns" the transfer protocol.

Hope this helps.

Susanne

http://www.hppalmtop.de

"William A. Korn" schrieb:

> I am trying to setup a new laptop that came with Windows 98 and I
> downloaded a fresh copy of Transfile 200 (tf103) from the HP site. It
> seemed to load and install correctly, but I have two HP 200s and =
neither
> of them will transfer to or backup correctly on my new machine.  It
> gives "No connection to palmtop..." and "Could not open file..."
> messages.  I checked out both 200s on my old Windows 95 machine and =
they
> both backed up OK.  Is there a problem with Windows 98 and Transfile =
200
> and, if so, is there a solution?
> Your help is appreciated,
> Bill


--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:26:07 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry Berry <lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL>
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Has anyone used the "BuilderLite" compiler on the LX.

=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=20
Larry Berry
NavSurfWarCen, Crane
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(812)854-1729=A0=A0 Fax: 1916
DSN: 482-1729
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=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4 =20

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 03:49:26 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Subject:      FLUFF Fastest Computer on Earth
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Hi All

Check out http://distributed.net

From the stats page I *think* there are more than the equivalent of 100,000
pentiums in this *network*...  The speed achieved is impressive..  :))

This cracked a 56bit security key in 22 hours..  Now working on 64 bit key.

Anyone care to form/join an LX team?

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:45:26 +0000
Reply-To:     melancon@microgear.net
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
Subject:      FS Lotus 123 R2.4 on 3.5" disks Brand New! in shrinkwrapped  Ret
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I posted the first copy for sale last week and it went for $50
- I got 8 more in today - one is spoken - so I have have the 7
remaining copies for sale.
$ 50.00 plus postage and COD charges - or prepay and save the COD
fee.  Don't mail payment until confirming I am holding a copy for
you.

To inquire or arrange purchase email me at melancon@microgear.net

Here is the info from my post last week:

> >The box is the same size as the Upgrade unit which is what I have
> >been using on my desktop for the last couple of years to work on
> >the same spreadsheets files as I have on my 200LX.
> >
> >Here's what was in the upgrade - (probably the same thing is in
> >this retail box)
> >
> >5- 3.5" disks
> >Registration card and various discount offers and coupons.
> >Lotus customer support guide booklet (11 pages)
> >Getting Started  (56 pages)
> >Quick Reference (40 pages)
> >User Guide (435 pages)
> >@Functions and Macros Guide (196 pages)
Mike Melancon
melancon@prysm.net

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:57:59 -0600
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              Orin Keplinger <orink@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Orin Keplinger <orink@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: miniture printer
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Haven't you mentioned in past posts that you have your 200LX printing to an
HP 6P?

I have a 6P connected to a Sysmex 9500 CBC setup. I can IR print to it with
my Fujitsu Laptop but haven't discovered how to get my 200LX-2Meg to do IR
printing. Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted.  O:)
As Ever,
Orin Keplinger, MT

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> From: Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: miniture printer
> Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 9:31 AM
>
> do you use the 340 with a cable or infrared printing
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Robert HockingİSMTP:hocking@FLASH.NET¨
> > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Robert Hocking
> > Sent:         Monday, February 08, 1999 5:19 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: miniture printer
> >
> > > I have a HP95lx and wondered if there is such a thing as a "mini"
> > printer
> > > that would work with the palmtop. Would be nice for when i'm mobile.
> > Scott
> > >
> > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I use the HP deskjet 340.  I have two batteries that I use for it.  I
> > also use it for my laptop, with color.  The nice part is the printer
> > prints hundreds of documents per battery.  Pentex also makes a portable
> > printer that is smaller than my HP, but I don't know how long the
> > battery last, or how much the print cartridges cost.  My HP uses
> > standard HP printer cartridges.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards, Robert Hocking
> >
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> >
>
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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:32:26 -0600
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> I just noticed a latch problem on my HP200LX.  It is fairly new, about
> a year old.  I've read about people having problems with their latch
> spring not being strong enough, but I don't think this is my problem.
> It almost seems like the latch isn't catching quite right, although I
> can't see what is wrong.  I've tried inserting a small piece of rubber
> band behind the latch, and this seems to help.  But it doesn't inspire
> confidence - it is almost that the slightly increased force has wedged
> the latch tighter in the slot, and not that the mechanism is now
> actually latching.
>
> -Chris

You said about a year old, does that mean that sending it back to HP to
have it fixed under the one year warranty is out of the question?

I have read a lot of postings in the past about latches, and rubber
bands seem to be the fix.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:35:11 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, jared@RAMBUS.COM
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From:         Jared Zerbe <jared@RAMBUS.COM>
Organization: Rambus Inc.
Subject:      Secure mail on 200LX?
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Hello All-

My sysadmin recently informed us we're going to crack down on security
and it looks like I may not be able to use my 200lx to connect to & read
mail from work.

Does anyone know of a "DST package" that's available for the 200lx?
Alternately I can forward my mail to an ISP encrypted with PGP and then
decrypt on the 200lx, but this sounds like as painful as a root canal.
What DST packages they know of are strictly Win95/Win98/NT only.

Anybody with a good working secure-email solution?

Thanks,

Jared

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:41:46 +0000
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> How can I delete a database category that I no longer use? I've had my HP for 5 years and my phone book categories could stand a bit of pruning.

I think it is not that easy to do.  I think you need to find and change
each record which has that category.  You could display a subset and
then change each record.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:10:02 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Jon Barrett wrote:

İsnip¨
> Yeah, that happens to our UltraSPARCs when we run our network
> design tool, except it eats up disk space too!
>
> I've also noticed that happening with some Java applets, where
> the language's GC doesn't GC.

One thing is that a program does not always release all the memory, but
the OS should always be able to regain it once program-execution has
ended. This is what doesn't happen when you use WinCE...

AFAIK, it is fairly common practice on UNIX (and other probably)
platforms, to have long (forever) running processes re-exec themselves,
to avoid them eating more and more memory because of memory leaks.


Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:01:12 -0800
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I know that usually people compain their palmtop's hinge is
not tight enough. I have the opposite problem. It is so
tight that a smal line of separation (crack) begins to
appear on the back cover, right above the right side of the
hinge.

So how does one loosen this thingy up?

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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William,

 > I don't know if it would work with the palmtop but the smallest printer I know
 > of is the Pentax Pocketjet.  Look at their web sites for details.  It guess
 > it will be parallel only, so you'd be needing a converter.

The printer is great! Comes in Serial version too, two
memory sizes, and as for cable, David Shier 1888 371 9391
makes the direct cable. It is part of my mobile set up!

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Alan,

 >      To counter these over-cautious and wasteful recommendations, I would
 > say it depends entirely on the voltage of the battery.  If you have used the
 > same backup battery for 5 years and it still reads 2.90 volts, keep on using
 > it.

To counter-counter your riky strategy let me point out that
these batteries cost parctically nothing, especially
compared to any amount of time one needs to spend to
restore data. I replace mine every nice months. It is the
cheapest insurance I bought so far for the palmtop and its
data.

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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Jared Zerbe wrote:

> Does anyone know of a "DST package" that's available for the 200lx?
> Alternately I can forward my mail to an ISP encrypted with PGP and
> then decrypt on the 200lx, but this sounds like as painful as a root
> canal. What DST packages they know of are strictly Win95/Win98/NT
> only.
> Anybody with a good working secure-email solution?

Sure... Post/LX and Goin' Postal both work with PGP.  D&A's web site has
detailed instructions on how to mostly automate the process of PGP
integration...

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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> To counter-counter your riky strategy let me point out that these
> batteries cost parctically nothing, especially compared to any amount
> of time one needs to spend to restore data. I replace mine every nice
> months. It is the cheapest insurance I bought so far for the palmtop
> and its data.

And, of course, the BEST insurance is a nice regular backup.  Or perhaps a
32MB/64MB upgrade-- those things are very nearly bulletproof.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 04:14:06 +0800
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Foolishly forgot my password to my pocket quicken file. Now I cannot =
access it. Can anyone help me crack it ? HPcrack only works for lx =
database files.

Kindly help this foolish one.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:28:43 -0500
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Mon,  8 Feb 1999 17:21:00 -0500 (EST)


> If you have used the same backup battery for 5 years and it still
> reads 2.90 volts, keep on using it.

Sorry, have to disagree with this...  Lithium cells are stable and have
a long shelf life, but at the end of life, the voltage drops like a
stone.  During most of their useful life, they are almost exactly
3.00V.  When they're down to 2.90, they're probably about gone.  I'd
rather not risk my data for a couple of bucks.

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:58:44 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 04:14 AM 9/02/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Foolishly forgot my password to my pocket quicken file. Now I cannot access
it. Can anyone help me crack it ? HPcrack only works for lx database files.
>
>Kindly help this foolish one.
>
>Richard

Hi Richard

May I suggest checking with Intuit support @  www.intuit.com  They might
know a workaround.. Otherwise how would a brute force attack go?  Ie use a
fast comp to check all possible passwords..Would you have used some word
that would be in a dictionary?

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:17:08 +1030
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Secure mail on 200LX?
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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Jared Zerbe wrote:
> > Anybody with a good working secure-email solution?
>
> Sure... Post/LX and Goin' Postal both work with PGP.  D&A's web site has
> detailed instructions on how to mostly automate the process of PGP
> integration...

LXTCP/PNR also works with PGP, and the procedure is in the documentation.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:51:07 -0800
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On 9 Feb 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> LXTCP/PNR also works with PGP, and the procedure is in the
> documentation.

Oops... my mistake.  Okay, all three major e-mail solutions work with PGP.
Now, has anybody gotten NetTamer to work with it?

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:21:26 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Nettamer uses plain ol' ASS-KEY files for outgoing mail so it should be easy
to use the LXBatch PGP script on the Super site. I automatically create MIME
encoded emails from a Foxpro app I wrote this way by creating the MIME code
and then creating an outgoing mail message. Nettamer will send out any file
as mail as long as it is correctly formatted and named mail.$NN (where NN is
01 to 99). Since the Nettamer interface is kinda crappy I use whatever
outside processes I can for sending mail.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 5:51 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Secure mail on 200LX?
>
>
> On 9 Feb 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:
>
> > LXTCP/PNR also works with PGP, and the procedure is in the
> > documentation.
>
> Oops... my mistake.  Okay, all three major e-mail solutions
> work with PGP.
> Now, has anybody gotten NetTamer to work with it?
>
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> I have designated my "F:\"  drive (on my HP 10MB Flash Card) as the default
> drive for saving Lotus 1-2-3 files.  Occasionaly when I go to save a Lotus
> file, it crashes and turns the unit off

Why is your flashcard drive F:?  It should be A:.  Maybe that
is why you are having a problem.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:52:48 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: miniture printer
Comments: To: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
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I have a Diconix 180 serial printer that worked with my 95' and 100'.
Frankly, I haven't used it with my "relatively" new 200LX.  It runs from
and recharges Nicads also (C-size), and uses regular tractor feed paper.
If anyone is interested, let me know.

At 07:31 AM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote:
>do you use the 340 with a cable or infrared printing
>
>> ----------
>> From:         Robert HockingİSMTP:hocking@FLASH.NET¨
>> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Robert Hocking
>> Sent:         Monday, February 08, 1999 5:19 AM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Re: miniture printer
>>
>> > I have a HP95lx and wondered if there is such a thing as a "mini"
>> printer
>> > that would work with the palmtop. Would be nice for when i'm mobile.
>> Scott
>> >
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use the HP deskjet 340.  I have two batteries that I use for it.  I
>> also use it for my laptop, with color.  The nice part is the printer
>> prints hundreds of documents per battery.  Pentex also makes a portable
>> printer that is smaller than my HP, but I don't know how long the
>> battery last, or how much the print cartridges cost.  My HP uses
>> standard HP printer cartridges.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards, Robert Hocking
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The Pocket Pentax does serial or parallel.  I have a custom serial (about 12
inches) cable from Dave Shier (shier.com) for my 200LX.  Should work on a 95LX
too.        =Bob=

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:39:08 -0800
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There's another printer that works quite well, but it's a bit expensive.
The Citizen PN60i printer is high-quality, and can be hooked up to the
200LX with either a custom cable (made by Shier Sytems, of course) or via
infrared.  It prints on regular paper and can even print in color with the
optional cartridge.  The consumable cost is high though-- it's somewhere
around $5-$8 for a pair of ribbons, which last about 30 pages apiece.
They were on special for $99 for a while, but now are back up to the
regular price of $300-400 or something along those lines.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:03:25 +1100
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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A good alternative to carry your HP is a four pocket shirt made by Rivers.
The extra two pockets allow you to carry your HP in one pocket and a mobile
phone in the other pocket. It is quite comfortable and unobtrusive to carry
them there.

A picture of the shirt is at www.rivers.com.au/catalogue/4pkt and if you
look at their current catalogue and you will see a picture of the shirt.

PS. If you are going to buy one, don't get it too big as they are large
sizes.

Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location -  www.privacy.com.au

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:51:55 -0800
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Subject:      Re: When to replace Backup Batteries?
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>
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You sent this to me as though I posted it. I did not!

I replace my coin battery every 9 months, and recommend the
same, or no more than a year to anyone. If you had a
battery that went into low power, i.e. you saw something
like Recovering from Back up mode, I recommend to
IMMEDIATELY change the coin battery!

Anyone suggesting to use voltage as the measure is plain
wrong, and gives really really lousy and dumb advice. Do
not follow this.

Let me give you a case in point. That voltage is a
momentary measurement. ESPECIALLY with Lithium batteries,
the next moment it can drop to zilch! Meaning, you have no
backup and more liekly than not your data just became bit
ashes! Your hair will beshortened violently - soon! :)

These batteries contain so little charge, that playing a
savings game with them is plain dumb. It saves maybe $2.00
and guarantees to waste you hours and hours of restoration
time. Unless you get paid $0.02 per hour, spend the damned
$2-3-4 and get a new coin.

(BTW, these are the guys that send me a message because
they lost their machine and lost their registration for
WWW/LX Plus! :) ...)


Peniel, I know you did not intend that, but I am seizing
the opportunity to bang that message home into whoever's
head it needs to be banged in - DO NOT SAVE MONEY ON THE
COIN BATTERY - it is stupid to do!

So what do you think - did the message sink in, or should
we post it another 15 times? :)

  Avi M. İD&A¨

----------

 > Mon,  8 Feb 1999 17:21:00 -0500 (EST)
 >
 > > If you have used the same backup battery for 5 years and it still
 > > reads 2.90 volts, keep on using it.
 >
 > Sorry, have to disagree with this...  Lithium cells are stable and have
 > a long shelf life, but at the end of life, the voltage drops like a
 > stone.  During most of their useful life, they are almost exactly
 > 3.00V.  When they're down to 2.90, they're probably about gone.  I'd
 > rather not risk my data for a couple of bucks.
 >
 > -Peniel

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Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:05:51 PST
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              William Korn <william.korn@EXCITE.COM>
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Susanne;

I followed your suggestion about FIFO (nice about my accounting course) but
still cannot complete a restore. Also, the normal transfer of files is
erratic.  I went to the port settings and tried different bits per second,
again without results.  It seems that this is a likely area to explore, but
I'm a bit lost and have returned to the default port settings while leaving
FIFO off.  Any further thoughts will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bill


On         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:34:38 -0800, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Just found this post on the newsgroup.
>
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:43:37 +0100
> From: Susanne Moehring <smoehring@easy-use.de>
> To: "William A. Korn" <longled@concentric.net>
> Subject: Re: Transfile 200 & Windows 98
>
> William,
> you have to deactivate FIFO in Windows98. You can find this option under
> Systemsettings and then Interfaces, COM-Port. Sorry that I do not know =
> the
> exact menu descriptions as I use a German version of Windows.
> If you use Windows98 and Transfile with FIFO activated the serial port of
> your Thinkpad "overruns" the transfer protocol.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Susanne
>
> http://www.hppalmtop.de
>
> "William A. Korn" schrieb:
>
> > I am trying to setup a new laptop that came with Windows 98 and I
> > downloaded a fresh copy of Transfile 200 (tf103) from the HP site. It
> > seemed to load and install correctly, but I have two HP 200s and =
> neither
> > of them will transfer to or backup correctly on my new machine.  It
> > gives "No connection to palmtop..." and "Could not open file..."
> > messages.  I checked out both 200s on my old Windows 95 machine and =
> they
> > both backed up OK.  Is there a problem with Windows 98 and Transfile =
> 200
> > and, if so, is there a solution?
> > Your help is appreciated,
> > Bill
>
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>
> "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
> İhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
>
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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:17:00 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Deleting database category words
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Here's a more complete answer to the problem of deleting words from a
Palmtop database category list. =


 How to:
1.   Create a subset based on the category word(s) you want to delete. =

2.   Activate the new subset and for each record in the subset, pull down=

the category list box, and, for each of the words to be deleted, highligh=
t
the word and press DEL.  Merely deleting the word from the visible catego=
ry
field will not delete the word from the category list.  Deleting the
category words from one record does not mean that the category words will=

automatically be deleted from all the records in the subset. =

      Once the category words have been deleted from the records in the
subset, they will also disappear from the category list in all other
records in the database.
3.   If there are a lot of records in the subset, you can expedite the
process by using a System Macro to record the keystrokes needed to delete=

the words from the category list and then playing back the macro for each=

record.  Note that the record will disappear from the subset when the
category words have been deleted. The record will still be available in t=
he
All Database Items subset. The category field will be empty. =

4.  Caution: if you delete any words from a category list, be sure to
review any subset definitions that were based on these old category words=
.
They will no longer be valid and should be deleted or changed.

If you want to make extensive changes to the category list, it might be
easier to use the File Modify command and delete the category field
altogether. Then close and reopen the database and use the File Modify
command again to Add a new category field.  Finally, you'll have to go
through the entire database and reset all the category fields and the
subset definitions.  =

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:16:59 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>Has anyone used the "BuilderLite" compiler on the LX.

I have tried using it but abandoned it in favor of BatLite which is
available at www.PalmtopPaper.com/downloads.htm. Put  BATL173.ZIP  in the=

search box and click  Fetch!  If that doesn't work, try BAT TO EXE as the=

search string. =


Batlite is freeware and does a nice job of turning batch files into com
files.  If you're working with batch files on the Palmtop be sure to chec=
k
out LXBatch 3.0.  =


.ed. İTPP¨

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Last week I had several emails requesting support on D&A
products sent to this email address.

Please do not send me support items by email to this
address. This is a private email address, I share it with
other people, and I tend to read the stuff in the email box
only occasionally. My partners who use this email address
also occasionally read stuff, and sometimes delete items. I
will make no apologies for this, it is just not the right
place to send email for D&A support. When I read the list
and reply it works, but sometimes I do not read it daily.
And sometimes items get deleted before I read them. So...
You want to send email here then expect nothing! :) ...

If you need support from D&A, please use the proper email
address:

   support@dasoft.com

I thank you all.

(BTW, there was an item I saw briefly, but only skimmed. It
was something about locations of the product. I do not
recall who wrote it. But the item was deleted before I got
to read it again in more detail. So, whoever you are,
please take this message seriously. You want support, good!
Write to

   support@dasoft.com

You just want to banter, good too. Write to me here, but
expect nothing, please :) ...)

Thank you all!

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 D&A Software, Inc.

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12h54m49s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Feb 1999 14:01:12 -0800 (PST), A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> =
wrote:

> I know that usually people compain their palmtop's hinge is
> not tight enough. I have the opposite problem. It is so
> tight that a smal line of separation (crack) begins to
> appear on the back cover, right above the right side of the
> hinge.
>
Hello Avi,

I had this problem myself about 7 months ago.

I took the circular cap off the right of the hinge.  Just use your
fingernails to prise it off, It is a bit tight, but using metal may
damage the surface.

i then put some teflon lubricant I use in my pushbike in there.  You
have to be very careful with this, as putting too much in is
irreversable.  You should see that there is a metal axel surrounded by
a metal shroud which is the hinge mechanism.  This is where the oil
goes.

Try putting a little in, work it in, then repeat until the hinge is as
you want it.

As for the crack, I got some electricians tape, tishues, and superglue.
put the tape on either side of the crack, as close as possible. This
will protect the surface of the palmtop.

Next, put a little preassure on the crack to open it up, and put some
super glue in the crack.  Again, be vary sparing with the superglue, I
have heard that it reacts with the plastic, and the plastic will melt.
This is probably why the seal is so good.

Use the tishues to wipe any excess superglue away.

I then opened the palmtop as far as it would go, placed it on a surface
with the keyboard and screen facing the ground, and placed a small
weight on it to keep the crack closed tight. I used a book.

The repair job on mine is hardly noticeable, and is still going strong.

HTH

David Eggins


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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: Secure mail on 200LX?
Comments: To: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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I guess I don't understand why you suddenly have to send secure mail
from work on your palmtop. You're not using the server at work are you?
Mike...


> David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> > On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Jared Zerbe wrote:
> > > Anybody with a good working secure-email solution?
> >
> > Sure... Post/LX and Goin' Postal both work with PGP.  D&A's web site =
has
> > detailed instructions on how to mostly automate the process of PGP
> > integration...
>
> LXTCP/PNR also works with PGP, and the procedure is in the documentation=
.
>
> --
> -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
> -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
> -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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     Received this in response about the DLG viewer.

     Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!

     Any of you HOT programmers want a challenge???!!!

     Joe


______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________
Subject: RE: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
Author:  pc@mds.com at mime
Date:    2/8/99 12:18 PM


Hi,

I'm sorry, DLG viewer does not read .PDF files and I don't know of any
view for the HP.

Alfred

----------
From:   jebuford@mail.hac.com
Sent:   Saturday, February 06, 1999 4:39 AM
To:     alfred1520@geocities.com
Subject:        PDF viewer for HP200lx?

     Greetings,

     I just visited your page at geocities and want to inquire about DLG
     Viewer 2.00.

     Will it allow the viewing of  .PDF files on the 200lx as the blurb for
     it seems to indicate? If not do you know of anything that will allow
     this?

     Any info appreciated!!

     Joe Buford
     jebuford@mail.hac.com


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Reply-To:     Rick Kozak <rick@colloquist.on.ca>
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     Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!

Got a file format description?

rick

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:39:27 -0600
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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I am not a pc programmer so I don't know how pertinent my comments might
be but...a few months back I put a bunch of scanned <tiff> pages into a
pdf document and  out of curiousity tried to read it in Acrodos.  The
funny thing was that it did display - partially.  It had trouble
displaying the whole page - especially if you tried to move around the
screen. But it did display.  (Afterthought - I created the .pdf to be
backward compatible with 2.1 - don't know if that matters of not.)

Being a curious person, I looked at the .pdf with list and some of the
readable text in the .pdf reminded me of a saved fax file.

Would it be possible to convert a .pdf that way?  Print to file using a
fax driver and displaying with a fax viewer?  Assuming there is a usable
fax viewer for the LX?

Of course, if you have Acrobat Exchange, there are converters out there
for pdf to html, an expensive solution but also a possibility.

Terry





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> Subject:      Re: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
>
>      Received this in response about the DLG viewer.
>
>      Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!
>
>      Any of you HOT programmers want a challenge???!!!
>
>      Joe
>
>
> ______________________________ Forward Header
> __________________________________
> Subject: RE: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
> Author:  pc@mds.com at mime
> Date:    2/8/99 12:18 PM
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm sorry, DLG viewer does not read .PDF files and I don't know of any
> view for the HP.
>
> Alfred
>
> ----------
> From:   jebuford@mail.hac.com
> Sent:   Saturday, February 06, 1999 4:39 AM
> To:     alfred1520@geocities.com
> Subject:        PDF viewer for HP200lx?
>
>      Greetings,
>
>      I just visited your page at geocities and want to inquire about
> DLG
>      Viewer 2.00.
>
>      Will it allow the viewing of  .PDF files on the 200lx as the
> blurb for
>      it seems to indicate? If not do you know of anything that will
> allow
>      this?
>
>      Any info appreciated!!
>
>      Joe Buford
>      jebuford@mail.hac.com
>
>

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Hi folks,

I just purchased a used 200LX that came with a Smart 6MB modem/memory
flash card. I tried setting up the card per the instructions (ie
terminate all applications, run a:\fsetup), but the hp doesn't recognize
the card as a valid drive. Does anyone know what's up here? Is it
possible that the card or PCMCIA slot is cooked? Is there anyway to
tell?

Thanks,
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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> Anyone care to form/join an LX team?

Hey, count me in! I'm willing to admit that my palmtop doesn't
get as much use as some diehards I see here. I have my Accton
card and network connectivity (as soon as I can get DHCP to work
;)  All I would need is a client. But they don't have one for
8086. Or at least, I didn't see one.

We could be like Marvel Superheros: "Go TeamLX!"   =8)

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     Someone mentioned Ghostscript as a possible source for a file format
     description. Also the obvious source would be Acrobat? I'll check
     their web sites for info.

     Anybody else have any ideas?

     Joe


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     Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!

Got a file format description?

rick


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I looked at .PDF quite seriously back in 1994 when it was `new'.
I implemented a bunch of programs that I needed back then to let me
manipulate the objects inside a PDF file. So I became quite familiar
with the innards of these files.

While some aspects of handling a PDF are quite simple, the general
problem of displaying a PDF file is incredibly complex, as true PDF
*subsumes* all of PostScript, and PostScript is an incredibly complex
and rich programming language in its own right.

If you have looked at a PostScript file in any detail, you will have
some feeling for this possible complexity. *Some* postscript files
are almost directly readable: they can contain long quoted strings of
legible ASCII. *Other* postscript files, though, can be incredibly
obscure, placing characters in different fonts in an unusual order in
what might appear to be nearly random locations. Letters can be formed
out of line segments and arcs, and may never appear as ASCII characters
in the PostScript source at all.

If you are willing to accept the fact that you would get only a
partial solution which might work well sometimes but fail rather
miserably at other times, then you have some chance of success.
However, the liklihood that anyone will produce a reasonable rendering
engine for postscript on a machine as slow as the 200lx (even a
double-speed 200lx is pretty slow) strikes me as pretty small.

The strength and the weakness of PDF/PostScript are tied pretty
intimately to one another. The very richness and complexity that lets
these two languages represent such elaborate pages is also the source
of the difficulty in rendering them.

It seems to me that the only liklihood of success is to take some
approach that does all of the rendering on some other device, and
then move the images from that world onto the 200. This is essentially
what you would get if you printed the document and then scanned it back
in. Not a very satisfying solution, of course, but it is the only
practicable approach I can see if you need to handle a broad range
of PDF files.

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> I am not a pc programmer so I don't know how pertinent my comments might
> be but...a few months back I put a bunch of scanned <tiff> pages into a
> pdf document and  out of curiousity tried to read it in Acrodos.  The
> funny thing was that it did display - partially.  It had trouble
> displaying the whole page - especially if you tried to move around the
> screen. But it did display.  (Afterthought - I created the .pdf to be
> backward compatible with 2.1 - don't know if that matters of not.)
>
> Being a curious person, I looked at the .pdf with list and some of the
> readable text in the .pdf reminded me of a saved fax file.
>
> Would it be possible to convert a .pdf that way?  Print to file using a
> fax driver and displaying with a fax viewer?  Assuming there is a usable
> fax viewer for the LX?
>
> Of course, if you have Acrobat Exchange, there are converters out there
> for pdf to html, an expensive solution but also a possibility.
>
> Terry
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Joseph E BufordİSMTP:jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM¨
> > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM
> > Sent:         Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:07 AM
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> > Subject:      Re: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
> >
> >      Received this in response about the DLG viewer.
> >
> >      Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!
> >
> >      Any of you HOT programmers want a challenge???!!!
> >
> >      Joe
> >
> >
> > ______________________________ Forward Header
> > __________________________________
> > Subject: RE: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
> > Author:  pc@mds.com at mime
> > Date:    2/8/99 12:18 PM
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm sorry, DLG viewer does not read .PDF files and I don't know of any
> > view for the HP.
> >
> > Alfred
> >
> > ----------
> > From:   jebuford@mail.hac.com
> > Sent:   Saturday, February 06, 1999 4:39 AM
> > To:     alfred1520@geocities.com
> > Subject:        PDF viewer for HP200lx?
> >
> >      Greetings,
> >
> >      I just visited your page at geocities and want to inquire about
> > DLG
> >      Viewer 2.00.
> >
> >      Will it allow the viewing of  .PDF files on the 200lx as the
> > blurb for
> >      it seems to indicate? If not do you know of anything that will
> > allow
> >      this?
> >
> >      Any info appreciated!!
> >
> >      Joe Buford
> >      jebuford@mail.hac.com
>

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Check and see it CIC100 is in your config.sys/autoexec.bat stuff.  There
won't be any card support unless something like it (a driver or enabler)
for the PCMCIA (or as the new kids call it, a PC card) slot.

Phil

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>From:  Chris Gearhart İSMTP:cgearhar@NTPLX.NET¨
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>
>Hi folks,
>
>I just purchased a used 200LX that came with a Smart 6MB modem/memory
>flash card. I tried setting up the card per the instructions (ie
>terminate all applications, run a:\fsetup), but the hp doesn't recognize
>the card as a valid drive. Does anyone know what's up here? Is it
>possible that the card or PCMCIA slot is cooked? Is there anyway to
>tell?
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
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Yes, there is a line in the autoexec.bat like such:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

When I reboot the computer (Ctrl Alt Del), the driver reports that it
loaded drives A and B. Curious, wonder what the B drive is that it's
loading? In any case, when I try to access the A drive, I get the
message "Not ready reading drive A, Abort, Retry, Fail?".

Thanks,
Chris

>Check and see it CIC100 is in your config.sys/autoexec.bat stuff.
There
>won't be any card support unless something like it (a driver or
enabler)
>for the PCMCIA (or as the new kids call it, a PC card) slot.

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The link to the freeware version of Qtext is:
ftp://ftp.snunit.k12.il/pub/hebrew-editors/qtext2/

It works very nicely on the palmtop.


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     Rick,

     I found a PDF reference manual at
     http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/adobepdf.html

     Joe


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     Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!

Got a file format description?

rick


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     Rick,

     Also check out http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/technicalinfo.html

     TIA

     Joe


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     Still looking for a .PDF Viewer for the 100/200lx!

Got a file format description?

rick


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David Sargeant wrote:
>Also, there were some articles in "PDA Developers" magazine about System
>Manager programming, PAL programming, and the database structure many of
>the 200LX apps use.  I don't have the URL handy, but I believe it was at
>something like www.cdbooks.com...  anybody remember?

Start from http://www.cdpubs.com, the archives are easy to find from this
point. As it happens, I was searching through the archives a couple of days
ago and found the following articles:

An Introduction To HP100/200 Programming
An Introduction To PAL
Building A HP System Manager Interface
Hands On PAL
HP Database Structure
HP System Manager Development
HP100/200LX System Manager Services
Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop PC
HPCLIB A HP100/200LX C Library
Hewlett Packard's New Developers Docs

There may be more, but this is what I found doing a quick search, most
articles are around 3 pages long, and contain some good detailed info.

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Wonder what i did wrong.... I just received my connectivity cord and
procceded to load "Realsked"(satellite tracking) program into my HP95lx
palmtop fom my desktop. The transfer worked very nicely, but when i brought
up my tracking program i saw it was 2hrs behind?. For the meantime, i have
set my Local time 2hrs ahead, this way i can use the tracking program. Any
ideas what i did wrong. I'm very new to the palmtop and maybe i got into a
file somewhere before i loaded the tracking program. Scott

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Well.... I looked.

To get text only display using just the built in fonts would require in the
order of 100 hours to complete (for me, anyway. others may be faster). The
main problems, as I see them from scanning, are:

1. potential for several varieties of compression algorithms that may be
optionally applied to the text strings
2. "objects" are not in any particular order and so an entire page needs to
be built in some kind of internal database
3. "pages" are not in any particular order either.
4. the vast number of commands that need to be decoded - even if just to be
skipped over
5. the difficulty of processing multiple methods of text rendering ( single
quote, double quote, and a couple of other commands mean different things)

Maybe you can find someone who's young and energetic to do this as a public
service. I'm 40 and grumpy and my 3 kids need to eat :-)

rick


     Rick,

     Also check out http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/technicalinfo.html

     TIA

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>Anyone suggesting to use voltage as the measure is plain
>wrong, and gives really really lousy and dumb advice. Do
>not follow this.

Such flattery!  Thanks, Avi. ;-)  Seriously, no offense taken.  I am not a
Lithium battery engineer nor chemist; I only know from personal experience
that these cells last for ages in this application.

My first HP palmtop was the 95LX and I have replaced its backup battery
exactly once in its lifetime (since 1992) and it only ran down because I
parked the machine for over a year without plugging it in or changing
batteries.

That said, I do practice the most careful backup procedures on a frequent
basis, so the loss from a power failure would never be  more than a
temporary inconvenience.  But I have never had one actually run out on me,
causing data loss.

For those of you without the discipline of frequent backups, or who may not
replace low AAs as soon as the warning sounds, then, yes, the sky is falling
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> Haven't you mentioned in past posts that you have your 200LX printing =
to an
> HP 6P?
>
> I have a 6P connected to a Sysmex 9500 CBC setup. I can IR print to it =
with
> my Fujitsu Laptop but haven't discovered how to get my 200LX-2Meg to do =
IR
> printing. Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted.  O:)
> As Ever,
> Orin Keplinger, MT

You have to install the IRDA driver files (on SUPER) and, of
course, change the port to Infrared (sometimes I forget and
wonder why nothing happens). Works perfectly with the Laserjet
6MP. The drivers occupy 45KB memory though, therefore I do not
call them in Autoexec.bat but only in one specific session of
Super Software Carousel.
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IMO, 100 hrs is a *serious* underestimate, even if you are a
programming genius...

Rick Kozak wrote:
>
> Well.... I looked.
>
> To get text only display using just the built in fonts would require in the
> order of 100 hours to complete (for me, anyway. others may be faster). The
> main problems, as I see them from scanning, are:
>
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:00:09 -0700, scott smith <ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET> wrote:

> up my tracking program i saw it was 2hrs behind?. For the meantime, i have
> set my Local time 2hrs ahead, this way i can use the tracking program. Any
> ideas what i did wrong. I'm very new to the palmtop and maybe i got into a
> file somewhere before i loaded the tracking program. Scott

On the 95LX do you have to set a local time like you do on the 200LX? Maybe
this has something to do with it?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Hi all

Is there  - a C++ compiler available for the LX that 'understands' 64bit
quanta ('long long', 'wide' etc)

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:17:31 -0800
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Russell Hemery wrote:

> Is there - a C++ compiler available for the LX that 'understands'
> 64bit quanta ('long long', 'wide' etc)

I'm not sure... pretty much the only C++ compiler that works on the LX at
all is Turbo C++ 1.01 or Borland C++ 2.0, and mine's in such disarray I
can't make it work at all.  <g>

Okay, I got it working, and it doesn't understand "long long."  It says
"long already defined."  And it also doesn't know what "wide" means.

This was Turbo C++ 1.01.  Maybe BC++ 2.0 works better... Rod?  <g>

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Hi David,

Looks like it is now your turn to give advice to me :) ---
Well, that is what the palmtop community is about.

 > I took the circular cap off the right of the hinge.  Just use your
 > fingernails to prise it off, It is a bit tight, but using metal may
 > damage the surface.

Yes, I knew that. I use fingernails, but usually someone
else's, because I keep my own very very short :) ...

 > i then put some teflon lubricant I use in my pushbike in there.  You
 > have to be very careful with this, as putting too much in is
 > irreversable.  You should see that there is a metal axel surrounded by
 > a metal shroud which is the hinge mechanism.  This is where the oil
 > goes.

So the teflon lubricant is some sory of oil? How about
using just plain fine machine oil? I imagine you'd want to
use just a few molecules at a time, easier to add them than
to take them out :) ...

I have a question about the oil, however: Won't it tend to
gum up with tiny particles of debris and other flotsam?
This may cause either loosening or tightening, I am not
sure.

 > As for the crack, I got some electricians tape, tishues, and superglue.
 > put the tape on either side of the crack, as close as possible. This
 > will protect the surface of the palmtop.
 >
 > Next, put a little preassure on the crack to open it up, and put some
 > super glue in the crack.  Again, be vary sparing with the superglue, I
 > have heard that it reacts with the plastic, and the plastic will melt.
 > This is probably why the seal is so good.

Yeah, they call it bonding, rather than gluing.

 > Use the tishues to wipe any excess superglue away.

Oh, you use the tape to mask the area around the crack
from the boding action. Clever... Potential problem with
cleaning with tissues is the fibers, no?

 > I then opened the palmtop as far as it would go, placed it on a surface
 > with the keyboard and screen facing the ground, and placed a small
 > weight on it to keep the crack closed tight. I used a book.
 >
 > The repair job on mine is hardly noticeable, and is still going strong.

Many times the bonded part is stronger than the original.
Watch for cracks developing around the bonded area :-) ...

 > PS, the superglue on your fingers will eventually wear off :-)

Yes, it even wears off eyelids! It happened to a friend of
mine who mistakenly touched his eyelids. One was shut for
three days. ER said "forget it!" It was just one spot and
they could flush and clean the eye in case there was any
glue there (none). Looked like spot-welded! :) ...

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:26:51 -0800
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David,

 > The link to the freeware version of Qtext is:
 > ftp://ftp.snunit.k12.il/pub/hebrew-editors/qtext2/
 >
 > It works very nicely on the palmtop.

Could you kindly post how to set up the palmtop to make it
work in Hebrew? Ketbez? Anything else? TIA.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:26:46 -0800
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Phil,

 > Check and see it CIC100 is in your config.sys/autoexec.bat stuff.  There
 > won't be any card support unless something like it (a driver or enabler)
 > for the PCMCIA (or as the new kids call it, a PC card) slot.

CIC100 is needed to recognize the modem part of the card,
not the storage part.

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Chris,

 > I just purchased a used 200LX that came with a Smart 6MB modem/memory
 > flash card. I tried setting up the card per the instructions (ie
 > terminate all applications, run a:\fsetup), but the hp doesn't recognize
 > the card as a valid drive. Does anyone know what's up here? Is it
 > possible that the card or PCMCIA slot is cooked? Is there anyway to
 > tell?

Are you talking about the card that has 2400 data and
9600/14.4 fax?

If so set it up like so:

in config.sys add

device=c:\smdriver.sys

Make sure smdriver.sys is in C: If you do not have it, let
me know I have the whole setup in a 6K file I can send to
you.

Aftter the change to CONFIG.SYS, reboot.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:44:17 -0800
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, A Meshar wrote:

>  > I took the circular cap off the right of the hinge.  Just use your
>  > fingernails to prise it off, It is a bit tight, but using metal may
>  > damage the surface.
> Yes, I knew that. I use fingernails, but usually someone
> else's, because I keep my own very very short :) ...

Am I the only person who bites it off each time?  <g>

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In <918543951.29462.666@excite.com>, on 02/08/99 at 11:05 PM,
   William Korn <william.korn@EXCITE.COM> said:

>I followed your suggestion about FIFO (nice about my accounting course)
>but still cannot complete a restore. Also, the normal transfer of files
>is erratic.

Bill,
I am a relatively new user and have run into difficulty transferring some
large files using Transfile as well. Unlike you, I am running OS/2 v.4,
which allows me to lock the com port, etc., which helps but does not make
the problem go away. What I have found to work so far is to zip the large
files using Lotus Magellan. Even if they don't compress much, I have yet
to have a file transfer fail using a zipped file. I cannot offer any
explanations as to why, however you might try it.

Charles

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:15:04 -0800
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I wrote a spreadsheet on the palmtop to make it easier for me to calculate
time sheet totals (until I get TT/LX set up for work <g>).  Essentially, I
put in the hour and minute values for my time in and time out for each day
in the week, and it calculates the hour values for each day, then sums
them up.  I ran into trouble, however, because I need to round each day's
hour value to the nearest 15 minutes (or 0.25 of an hour).  The method I
ended up using involved a long series of cells with if statements.  It
works quite well, but I'd prefer a solution that wasn't so... inelegant.
Is there a better way to round a value to the nearest 0.25?

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Is there a way to clip the values from an entry in the Appointment Book
for several days?  I generally put an appointment in that's titled "Work"
with the start and end times for when I worked... is it possible to create
some form of text file with the times in and out for five days of "Work"
appointments?

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:35:25 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>works quite well, but I'd prefer a solution that wasn't so... inelegant.
>Is there a better way to round a value to the nearest 0.25?

Hi David

What about taking the amount and multiplying by 4 and then taking the int of
that result and dividing by 4?  Havent tried it but logically should work.

Russell

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"Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM> wrote:

 > >Anyone suggesting to use voltage as the measure is plain
 > >wrong, and gives really really lousy and dumb advice. Do
 > >not follow this.
 >
 > Such flattery!  Thanks, Avi. ;-)  Seriously, no offense taken.  I am not a
 > Lithium battery engineer nor chemist; I only know from personal experience
 > that these cells last for ages in this application.

Ah, it is you!!! <G>... No offense meant. I just want to
make sure no one follows this advice. The batteries last
for ages, showing a high voltage, but the moment you put
any load on them, they drop to nothing flat, IF they have
low power. The discharge curve for them is like this:

                      ********************************
           ***********
          *
         *
        *
       *
       *
       *
       *
       *
       *
       *
       *
       *

More or less. ASCII is not terribly good for charting...


 > That said, I do practice the most careful backup procedures on a frequent
 > basis, so the loss from a power failure would never be  more than a
 > temporary inconvenience.  But I have never had one actually run out on me,
 > causing data loss.

Excellent! What excatly do you do? Many people have many
practices, and it is always to hear someone else's tricks.
I never learn enough about backing up!

 > For those of you without the discipline of frequent backups, or who may not
 > replace low AAs as soon as the warning sounds, then, yes, the sky is falling
 > and you should take the most conservative advice.

ROFL!!! It is in LA - it has rained really hard today, on
and on... :) ...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Russell Hemery wrote:

> What about taking the amount and multiplying by 4 and then taking the
> int of that result and dividing by 4?  Havent tried it but logically
> should work.

Yes, I think you're right.  THANKS!  That was the result I was looking
for.  I knew there was a simple mathematical way to do it... but my mind
has long since ceased functioning today.  <g>

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Avi,

Yep, that's the one. If you would be so kind as to send my the appropriate
drivers, I'll give it a whirl. BTW, should I be alarmed that I'm getting two
bogus drive assingments (A and B), even when the card is not installed? They
show up in Filer and at a DOS prompt. Neither one is accessible, of course <g>.

A Meshar wrote:

> Chris,
>
>  > I just purchased a used 200LX that came with a Smart 6MB modem/memory
>  > flash card. I tried setting up the card per the instructions (ie
>  > terminate all applications, run a:\fsetup), but the hp doesn't recognize
>  > the card as a valid drive. Does anyone know what's up here? Is it
>  > possible that the card or PCMCIA slot is cooked? Is there anyway to
>  > tell?
>
> Are you talking about the card that has 2400 data and
> 9600/14.4 fax?
>
> If so set it up like so:
>
> in config.sys add
>
> device=c:\smdriver.sys
>
> Make sure smdriver.sys is in C: If you do not have it, let
> me know I have the whole setup in a 6K file I can send to
> you.
>
> Aftter the change to CONFIG.SYS, reboot.
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>
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This might be somewhat of a solution:


http://www.bcl-computers.com/contents/PDFSolutions/magellan.htm

 Magellan 1.0
 (PDF to HTML)
PDF to HTML Conversion Tool

Convert PDF pages to HTML
pages with just a click of a
button.

1. PRESERVING THE STRUCTURE OF THE PAGE  The
resulting HTML page structure will accurately
match the page structure in the
original PDF file, allowing the information to be
presented accurately.


--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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Hi does anyone have an Accton EN2216-1?  If so I was wondering if the
Part number on it is P/N 140145-000?  TIA!

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In a message dated 2/9/1999 9:11:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

David,

If you do it that way, you are cheating yourself.  1.24999 hours will be
truncated to 1.0, and you will loose a lot of time!

What are the rules?  If everything over 1.125 is to round to 1.25, you need to
add .125 to the number before the initial multiplication by 4.  That way, 1.12
rounds to 1.0, and 1.125 rounds to 1.25.  If your rules are different, modify.

Lynn


> > What about taking the amount and multiplying by 4 and then taking the
>  > int of that result and dividing by 4?  Havent tried it but logically
>  > should work.
>
>  Yes, I think you're right.  THANKS!  That was the result I was looking
>  for.  I knew there was a simple mathematical way to do it... but my mind
>  has long since ceased functioning today.  <g>
>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:15:25 +1100
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At 09:40 PM 9/02/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/9/1999 9:11:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, david@HPLX.NET
>writes:
>
>David,
>
>If you do it that way, you are cheating yourself.  1.24999 hours will be
>truncated to 1.0, and you will loose a lot of time!
Lynn

Well caught  :))

Hadnt considered that

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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> If you do it that way, you are cheating yourself.  1.24999 hours will
> be truncated to 1.0, and you will loose a lot of time!
> What are the rules?  If everything over 1.125 is to round to 1.25, you
> need to add .125 to the number before the initial multiplication by 4.
> That way, 1.12 rounds to 1.0, and 1.125 rounds to 1.25.  If your rules
> are different, modify.

You're right, if I just take the integer part, but fortunately Lotus
can round to the nearest digit.  I'm doing it like this (assuming the
value I want is in A1):

(@ROUND(A1*4,0))/4

That rounds up at anything >= 0.5, so 1.2499999 will round up to 1.25
without a problem.

If you just do @int(a1*4)/4, then 1.249999 will indeed round down to 1.
So don't do that.  <g>

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Lotus 1-2-3 rounding
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Russell Hemery wrote:

> Well caught  :))
> Hadnt considered that

That's why you need to use a "rounding integer" function rather than a
"truncate everything after the decimal point" function.  Many programming
languages use INT as a "rounding integer" function, but Lotus 1-2-3 uses
it as a truncate integer function.  But @ROUND(VALUE,0) works just as
well.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:07:38 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Accton Ethernet Card

> Hi does anyone have an Accton EN2216-1?  If so I was wondering if the
> Part number on it is P/N 140145-000?  TIA!
>
> Brian S
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
I have numbers all over mine. The closest to that is the 146266-000
on the back under the big CE (no not winCE) logo. On the front it has
146266-001 so I guess the front is 001 and the back is 000. :-) I
think the actual part number from Accton is en2216-1.

Pete


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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:10:41 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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If I understand your problem correctly, I'd dump the appointments
(en masse) into an ASCII `print' file, and then let PERL form a text
file that contained the proper things (begin/end times, dates, notes
...)

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Is there a way to clip the values from an entry in the Appointment Book
> for several days?  I generally put an appointment in that's titled "Work"
> with the start and end times for when I worked... is it possible to create
> some form of text file with the times in and out for five days of "Work"
> appointments?

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:19:17 -0800
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, David Ness wrote:

> If I understand your problem correctly, I'd dump the appointments (en
> masse) into an ASCII `print' file, and then let PERL form a text file
> that contained the proper things (begin/end times, dates, notes ...)

Can perl 4 (which has a version that runs on the LX, if I recall) do that
effectively?  Is it much different than perl 5?

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:16:00 EST
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In a message dated 2/9/1999 10:07:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, david@HPLX.NET
writes:

> I'm doing it like this (assuming the
>  value I want is in A1):
>
>  (@ROUND(A1*4,0))/4

I quite agree that that works as well, but it isn't the solution postulated.
The suggestion was simply that you multiply the entry by 4, apply @interer,
and divide.  That does not work, unless you are working for the Church, and
want to donate the breakage.

    8¬)

Lynn

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:34:51 -0800
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Accton Ethernet Card
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Hi Brian;
I've got an Accton EN2216-1.  The part number on the front of the card is
146226-001, on the back it's 2242226-001.

Bill


On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:

> Hi does anyone have an Accton EN2216-1?  If so I was wondering if the
> Part number on it is P/N 140145-000?  TIA!
>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:41:39 -0800
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> I quite agree that that works as well, but it isn't the solution
> postulated. The suggestion was simply that you multiply the entry by
> 4, apply @interer, and divide.  That does not work, unless you are
> working for the Church, and want to donate the breakage.

You're right... you need a rounding solution.  Fortunately, Lotus allows
you to round to a specified number of decimal places (like 0 in my
example) but that won't help directly when trying to round to something
other than the nearest tenth, hundredth, etc.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:50:59 -0500
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Hello Everyone-
I've received a great response to my post of  HPLX items, and I thought it
might be OK to post an update in the interest of saving everyone's time re:
items that are already sold. This will be my last post of these items...

I have some surplus HPLX items for sale, and I thought I would  give the
list the first crack at 'em. Please, e-mail me privately (off the list) at
ctmcneil@ix.netcom.com if you have any questions or would like to make an
offer. Everything is guaranteed to be in very good condition unless noted
otherwise. Prices do not include shipping/C.O.D.charges. Preference will be
given to those buying a quantity of items. Thanks for looking...

Hardware:

HP200LX 2Meg. Exc condition, no sign of hinge crack or screen problems.
w/Original Box, Manuals, HP F1011A Power Supply, Sears Case #965283.
Listed on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=65613926

SunDisk branded 10Meg ATA Flashdisk card. #SDP5-10. w/HP Stac disk and
manual. Sold.

Megahertz XJ1144 X-Jack PCMIA 14.4 Modem. w/software and manual. Sold.

Megahertz XJ124FM X-Jack PCMIA 2400/9600 Modem w/software and manual. Sold.

U.S. Robotics Worldport 14.4 Pocket Modem. The latch on battery door is
broken, otherwise in excellent condition. Uses one 9 volt battery. You will
need to adapt the standard DB9 connector on the modem to the HP serial port.
I used an adapter from the HP connectivity kit (not included). This modem
works great with the HPLX. w/software & manual. $50. Available.

Software (original disks, not copies):

Complete set of Lotus Agenda 2.0 Manuals. Includes both sizes of software
disks, which are freely available for download on the web. You only want
this if you are in search of the manuals. Sold.

Microsoft Works 3 for DOS. w/manual & extra book, 3.5" software disks. $30.
Available.

PC File 7 for DOS. w/manual, 3.5" software disk. Nice DOS database. $15.
Available.

Geoworks Ensemble 2.0 for DOS. Graphical shell & apps. Neat. $25. Available.

Memory Mate. Great freeform database for DOS. Boolean searches. Sold.

Info Select 2.0 for DOS. Another take on the above. $15. Available.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:12:59 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Comments: To: Charlie McNeil <ctmcneil@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:50:59 -0500, you wrote:

I am interested in your palmtop but live in canada, and for you that
might pose a problem.  If you will accept offers how about $110.00?

Thanks, Charles B.

>Hello Everyone-
>I've received a great response to my post of  HPLX items, and I thought =
it
>might be OK to post an update in the interest of saving everyone's time =
re:
>items that are already sold. This will be my last post of these items...
>
>I have some surplus HPLX items for sale, and I thought I would  give the
>list the first crack at 'em. Please, e-mail me privately (off the list) =
at
>ctmcneil@ix.netcom.com if you have any questions or would like to make =
an
>offer. Everything is guaranteed to be in very good condition unless =
noted
>otherwise. Prices do not include shipping/C.O.D.charges. Preference will=
 be
>given to those buying a quantity of items. Thanks for looking...
>
>Hardware:
>
>HP200LX 2Meg. Exc condition, no sign of hinge crack or screen problems.
>w/Original Box, Manuals, HP F1011A Power Supply, Sears Case #965283.
>Listed on eBay:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D65613926
>
>SunDisk branded 10Meg ATA Flashdisk card. #SDP5-10. w/HP Stac disk and
>manual. Sold.
>
>Megahertz XJ1144 X-Jack PCMIA 14.4 Modem. w/software and manual. Sold.
>
>Megahertz XJ124FM X-Jack PCMIA 2400/9600 Modem w/software and manual. =
Sold.
>
>U.S. Robotics Worldport 14.4 Pocket Modem. The latch on battery door is
>broken, otherwise in excellent condition. Uses one 9 volt battery. You =
will
>need to adapt the standard DB9 connector on the modem to the HP serial =
port.
>I used an adapter from the HP connectivity kit (not included). This =
modem
>works great with the HPLX. w/software & manual. $50. Available.
>
>Software (original disks, not copies):
>
>Complete set of Lotus Agenda 2.0 Manuals. Includes both sizes of =
software
>disks, which are freely available for download on the web. You only want
>this if you are in search of the manuals. Sold.
>
>Microsoft Works 3 for DOS. w/manual & extra book, 3.5" software disks. =
$30.
>Available.
>
>PC File 7 for DOS. w/manual, 3.5" software disk. Nice DOS database. $15.
>Available.
>
>Geoworks Ensemble 2.0 for DOS. Graphical shell & apps. Neat. $25. =
Available.
>
>Memory Mate. Great freeform database for DOS. Boolean searches. Sold.
>
>Info Select 2.0 for DOS. Another take on the above. $15. Available.
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:19:01 +1100
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              Doric Swain <D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      IBM Microelectronics RS232 Serial Card in HP200LX
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Dear all,

I recently purchased the above from an e-Bay auction, having been told by
the seller that it would function in a HP200LX. If I insert the card in my
HP, it refuses to switch on - even after then removing the card.
Eventually, the HP comes back, but I am getting pretty worried.

Have I blundered? Does anyone else have experience with this, or know what
might be the problem?

Thanks in advance,

Doric Swain.
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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:23:50 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I run what is apparently perl 4.0.1.6 dated 91/11/11 16:30:45
without much incident on my 200lx.

I don't do anything super-clever with PERL, so I haven't paid much
attention to v4/v5 differences. The only version I pay particular
attention to is under NT when one of my PERLs does long filenames and
the other does DOS filenames.

On the 200lx, I don't do anything clever, but I also haven't run into
anything that I've tried that doesn't work. The executable is
353,568 bytes.

David Sargeant wrote:
>
><snip of my earlier>
>
> Can perl 4 (which has a version that runs on the LX, if I recall) do that
> effectively?  Is it much different than perl 5?
>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:39:04 -0600
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Exit to DOS
Type: "keybez he" from the d:\bin directory
You can create a batch file in your root directory:  "hebrew.bat"
"d:\bin\keybez he"   to invoke Hebrew.

(If you enter keybez by itself, it will list all the language arguments).  I
do not know why HP excluded Hebrew from their manual - yet included it in
the palmtop.

Be prepared to have it interfere with sorting of databases, phone book
files, and other alpha sorting routines.  I only use it when I need it then
reboot without it.

Les



There are
-----Original Message-----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Qtext Hebrew Word Processor


>David,
>
> > The link to the freeware version of Qtext is:
> > ftp://ftp.snunit.k12.il/pub/hebrew-editors/qtext2/
> >
> > It works very nicely on the palmtop.
>
>Could you kindly post how to set up the palmtop to make it
>work in Hebrew? Ketbez? Anything else? TIA.
>
>  Avi M. İD&A¨
>
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>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:53:32 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: IBM Microelectronics RS232 Serial Card in HP200LX
Comments: To: Doric Swain <D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU>
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What do you want to do, that you can't do with the normal serial
port on the 200?

Doric Swain wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I recently purchased the above from an e-Bay auction, having been told by
> the seller that it would function in a HP200LX. If I insert the card in my
> HP, it refuses to switch on - even after then removing the card.
> Eventually, the HP comes back, but I am getting pretty worried.
>
> Have I blundered? Does anyone else have experience with this, or know what
> might be the problem?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Doric Swain.
>                                       O__
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> fax:Australia(02) 935-19204            \\/
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:19:29 +0000
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It sounds as if the item uses too much power.  At least, that appears to
be the symptom.

Someone else might have better or more specific info.

After a complete backup, if you wish to experiment further, using very
fresh lithium or rechargeable batteries or on ac power, you might try
again.  But I'm fairly certain the card was never intended for a power
power device like the hp.

good luck

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:21:12 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Subject:      Re: FS: HP200LX and related bunch o' stuff (UPDATE)
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>U.S. Robotics Worldport 14.4 Pocket Modem. The latch on battery door
is
>broken, otherwise in excellent condition. Uses one 9 volt battery.
You will
>need to adapt the standard DB9 connector on the modem to the HP
serial port.
>I used an adapter from the HP connectivity kit (not included). This
modem
>works great with the HPLX. w/software & manual. $50. Available.


Could be interested in this, but sorry think $50 is a bit steep, would
be prepared to offer $20 if you do not get a better offer.

>Info Select 2.0 for DOS. Another take on the above. $15. Available.

Would like to have this, please put my name on it and will forward
funds
after you comment on above offer.  Any problems delivering to address
below?

Regards.....Liam

| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:31:11 EST
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Subject:      HELP!!! My Palmtop has gone berserk!
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Well, I never thought I would be writing this group looking for help...but the
time has come. I have a doublespeed 200LX with 64mb upgraded memory and I use
Software Carousel. I have a macro that automatically backs up everything from
C: to my 220mb A: flashcard daily. So what could possibly go wrong -
EVERYTHING!! Out of the blue, all my databases, my phone book, my appointment
book - have started giving me indications of corruption. Each of these files
sporadically will not open. Fortunately, I am able to copy the backup file
from my A: flashcard back to the C: drive. That is until recently when
apparently my macro copied all corrupted files on C: over my good files on the
A: flashcard.

GURU CHALLENGE # 1!!:

The main damage that was done is in my appointment book which won't open.
First question - How good is garlic at repairing a corrupted appointment book,
or does anyone have a better idea on how I might be able to recover the
appointment book data before I toss in the towel? Next question - has anyone
experienced similar sporadic corruption problems and did you find a
resolution? I suspect that I might have allowed some of these files to get too
big, but I'm wondering if there is another variable at work here that I'm not
considering. I don't believe there is a virus on the palmtop since I have  not
downloaded any new files to this computer in over 6 months.

GURU CHALLENGE #2!!:

Next problem I'm experiencing - Whenever I try to go to System Manager by
pressing the &/More Key from the topcard, my screen creates the top icons
(Appt, Phone, Note, Memo, DB, Quicken, Lotus and DOS), and then slowly creates
what looks like the standard 200LX topcard speckled background picture for the
lower half of the screen instead of creating the rest of my icons! At that
point, the palmtop locks up and needs to be rebooted. Like I said, everything
is a mess!! I copied a backup of the appmgr.dat file to my _dat directory in
the C: root, but this did not fix the problem. Does anyone have any
suggestions on what other files may need to be restored or what other fixes I
might want to employ?

I'll be very impressed if anyone has a solution to either challenge, but
here's putting you guys and gals to the test! Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:56:49 +1100
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              Doric Swain <D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: IBM Microelectronics RS232 Serial Card in HP200LX
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At 11:53  9/02/99 -0500, David Ness wrote:
>What do you want to do, that you can't do with the normal serial
>port on the 200?
>
I would like two serial ports for two projects:

1. Differential GPS
2. Use of (an already developed) serial port A-D card simultaneously with
GPS input.

Doric.
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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:53:17 -0700
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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I'm apologize for using this mailing list for sales stuff, but it seemed
like the
best way to get the message out quickly.

There is a computer reseller here in Utah that is looking to get rid of
some of their old PC (DOS and 16-bit Windows )software and hardware.
For instance, I picked up Lotus Magellan 2.0 for $8. Yes, I know it's
free at Lotus' web site, but it's nice to have the docs and diskettes.
They also have:
  MSDOS 5.0 if you want the complete package.
  Windows 3.0 if you want to try it on the Palmtop.
  WordPerfect 6.0 for DOS (then you'll have a license and can use 5.1+,
if you want to)
  QDOS Collection by Gazelle Systems  (nice file management, backup,
etc.)
  Partition Magic for $19 (then you can get the upgrade and rebate)
...and many/much more.

As far as hardware, they have lots of PC and network stuff (even Tiara
ARCnet cards! ugh!) and they occasionally get in some PCMCIA modems,
etc.

I don't work for them, but I do have connections there and can get some
pretty decent prices on just about anything.

Let me know - off the mailing list - and I'll be glad to help you find
what you're looking for.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Richard Smith
  rsmith@enol.com
  http://www.enol.com/~rsmith

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:16:39 +0000
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From:         Ted Peterson <ted@NICAR.ORG>
Organization: IRE/NICAR
Subject:      Re: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
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I don't have an HP-200LX yet, but I want one and was curious about PDF
conversion for DOS since we use PDFs alot at work.

There's an x86/Win31/Win95/WinNT port, from Michael Richmond, of
pdftotext and pdftops, part of the XPDF PDF software package.  The
source includes Win32 makefiles, but the included pdftotext.exe and
pdftops.exe executables run in DOS:
ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/xpdf-0.80-win.zip
http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/

To generate a plain text file, run pdftotext:

  pdftotext file.pdf


txt2pdf is Text-To-PDF software for DOS with TP7/BP7 source:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/6789/pdfindex.html

Misc. PDF to text conversion info:
http://www.empowermentzone.com/acc_pdf.txt

There used to be mail servers setup to accept documents for PDF
conversion, but I don't know if they still work:

pdf2txt@adobe.com
pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu
pdf2html@adobe.com
pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu

There are several web sites that will convert to/from PDF.

convert PDF to text:
http://access.adobe.com

convert PDF to 94 image formats:
http://www.handmade.com/hsi/web_alchemyps.html

convert PDF to ps:
http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/PDF/pdf2ps

online distiller converts ps files to PDF:
http://www.babinszki.com/distiller/

The tools at http://www.pdfzone.com are excellent.

There's DOS software called Image Alchemy that will convert a PDF to
one of 94 graphic formats.  Unfortunately, it's a 32bit program that
requires a 386 machine.  One web page says that the demo, Alchemy.exe,
is a 16 bit DOS executable, so perhaps it will work on the HP-200LX
(but farther down the page, it lists a 386 in the requirements). See:
http://www.handmade.com/hsi/installpc.html

pj is a free, open source Java class library for parsing,
manipulating, and creating Adobe PDF files:  http://www.etymon.com/pj/

retep, another Java PDF library:  http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf/

Maybe HTMLDOC could be ported:  http://www.easysw.com/~mike/htmldoc/

PDFprint can print to ascii.  It uses Perl 5.0, so maybe Perl for DOS
could be used to port it:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4794/pdfprint/

--Ted



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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:33:19 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>Is there  - a C++ compiler available for the LX that 'understands' 64bi=
t
quanta ('long long', 'wide' etc)

None of the C/C++ compilers that will work on the LX understand 64 bit da=
ta
types. They might be cobbled together with  bit fields and typedefs or
perhaps a 64bit class using BC 2.0.  =


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Subject:      Re: PDF viewer for HP200lx?
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I don't have an HP-200LX yet, but I want one and was curious about
PDF conversion for DOS since we use PDFs alot at work.

There's an x86/Win31/Win95/WinNT port, from Michael Richmond, of
pdftotext and pdftops, part of the XPDF PDF software package.  The
source includes Win32 makefiles, but the included pdftotext.exe and
pdftops.exe executables run in DOS:
ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/xpdf-0.80-win.zip
http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/

To generate a plain text file, run pdftotext:

  pdftotext file.pdf


txt2pdf is Text-To-PDF software for DOS with TP7/BP7 source:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/6789/pdfindex.html

Misc. PDF to text conversion info:
http://www.empowermentzone.com/acc_pdf.txt

There used to be mail servers setup to accept documents for PDF
conversion, but I don't know if they still work:

pdf2txt@adobe.com
pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu
pdf2html@adobe.com
pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu

There are several web sites that will convert to/from PDF.

convert PDF to text:
http://access.adobe.com

convert PDF to 94 image formats:
http://www.handmade.com/hsi/web_alchemyps.html

convert PDF to ps:
http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/PDF/pdf2ps

online distiller converts ps files to PDF:
http://www.babinszki.com/distiller/

The tools at http://www.pdfzone.com are excellent.

There's DOS software called Image Alchemy that will convert a PDF to
one of 94 graphic formats.  Unfortunately, it's a 32bit program that
requires a 386 machine.  One web page says that the demo, Alchemy.exe,
is a 16 bit DOS executable, so perhaps it will work on the HP-200LX
(but farther down the page, it lists a 386 in the requirements). See:
http://www.handmade.com/hsi/installpc.html

pj is a free, open source Java class library for parsing,
manipulating, and creating Adobe PDF files:  http://www.etymon.com/pj/

retep, another Java PDF library:  http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf/

Maybe HTMLDOC could be ported:  http://www.easysw.com/~mike/htmldoc/

PDFprint can print to ascii.  It uses Perl 5.0, so maybe Perl for DOS
could be used to port it:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4794/pdfprint/

--Ted



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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:08:57 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      About PDF reading on the LX (SHOUTING LOUD repeatedly).

        Hey anyone there listening?

    I still see post about what version of Acrobat reader runs on LX.
    NONE and no new reader will ever work, you just can't write one!

    The solution is to use <http://access.adobe.com>, the free online
    PDF to HTML and PDF to TXT converter service. It does the job on
    a big remote server, just type the URL of the desired PDF file.

    It works, even with 2000kB files and is of quite acceptable speed,
    IMO it's easy to use WWW/LX or Arachne to view at the resulting
    HTML file.

    This method must be satisfactory, as if you do not have access to
    the Internet on the palmtop, then you won't read PDF files there;
    as the only source of PDF's is the Net or some CD-ROMs (later is
    not commonly attached to HPLX).

    Spare your efforts for more useful tasks, then writing PDFreader.

                Sincerely:  Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:16:02 -0500
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              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      Minix tidbits and theorizing on OSes for HPLX.

    Hello all,

>> What kind of interface does it have? Does it have icon based one?
>> A command line?
>It's a basic Unix operating system, command-line only. Before us
>serious Unix bigots can really just run Minix and nothing else on
>our palmtop, we'll need to divise some PIM software. I've been
>pondering that one....

  Actually there was a simple GUI for Minix v1.5, not X, but gui.
  I know, that there are two  DOS-based X-servers (btw, for X-window
  server means client and vica versa), one runs on 8086, other one
  supports 286 w/CGA. Both are free sw, so we may get the source and
  port them to create X for Minix, when it matures on the LX.

  For PIM, noone said here that Minix should be dominant OS for HPLX!
  More like a dual-boot system, that more and more desktop PCs use.
  Regularly you'll run ROM-DOS 5.0 or IBM PC DOS 2000 on LX and boot
  Minix only when you have time for a longer session. Minix needs
  about 2min to boot, 1min to close, so no useful PIM for it. Instant
  on Unix is generally not a good idea, very picky about filesystem
  consistency, so no crashes please!

  Main Minix use will be educational, otaku and some networking.

>> How does it use memory--does it need more than 640k? Do you need
>> expanded or extended memory?
  In theory, 512kb is enough for OS, but nothing else. 640kb is OK
  for OS and programs; however if using shell with command history
  and scripting (ash), even <man> won't fit. Quite restricted.

  Minix does not support LIM (expanded mem.) by default, but had a
  beta version EMS driver for ver. 1.5; I got it via e-mail w/ code.
  This is one area, where MinixLX can contribute to the regular
  distribution in the future.

>It manages memory by mandating (enforced by the compiler) that all
>programs run in "small memory model" --- 64KB code plus 64KB data,
>or less. Like V7 on PDP11. This lets it use the 8086's segmentation
>registers for memory management, relocating running programs on the
>fly as needed. It uses memory sort of SysMan complient progrs then.
  Forking is done by copying.

>> Can you run dos programs like you can in OS/2?
>Nope. In theory I suppose one could come up with a dos emulator that
>serviced DOS syscalls (interrupt), and teach it about new executable
>type, and add limited, fragile support for .com files. AFAIK this
>hasn't been done. Probably never get working support for EXEs.
  Most you can do is write/read Ms-DOS floppies and HDDs. A Dos emu
  just can't fit on top of 179kb kernel, no way.

>Kind of reminds me of OS/2. OS/2 doesn't have a lot of end user apps
>either (one of the problems) but its great the way it handles dos
>apps--makes up for the lack of OS/2 apps. Anyone know if there's a
>version that runs on 186? John
  Well, OS/2 was made for the AT; that's one reason M$ bailed out of
  development, they wanted XT stake, too (even got the LX...) OS/2
  version 1x and 2.x will run on 286, 3.x and up need virtual mode.

Let me theorize on Oses for HPLX. Minix has educational value, which
may make LX a common tool for IT students, just like the 48 is for
sophomore engineers. Minix will also serve as base for ELKS to LX.
Solid MinixLX can sell a few thousand brand new 200LX PCs.

ELKS is the link to Linux, which assures non-commercial palmtop sur-
vival into XXI century. Also gets a load of future applications.
Linux fans may wish to own smallest Un*x box, buying n*10,000 units.

There is Coherent, a commercial 16bit Un*x from now defunct company,
should check for abandonware status. It has more functionality com-
pared to Minix, as it was made for work, not edu.

IBM PC DOS 2000 may be the choice of those, who ought to keep using
non-Y2K progs, like M$ Word 5.0. It has some methods internal to
command.com helping out failing programs. Other just stick to ROM
based Dos 5.0. This only help keeping the already existing user base.

All the above four are defensive approaches, they can only delay LX
fate of production end by H-P, but not prevent it.

QNX version 2.x should be the real gem, that makes H-P think about
new 386+ LX for QNX v.4 business. (Ver. 2 can run on 8086, but V4
needs 386+). This real-time OS enables use of LX as control panel/
network adapter inside sophisticated workgroup printers, scanners.
However, as promising as it seems, it requires big bucks and at
least semi-official support from QSSL.

(Home-made 486 upgrade to HPLX is impossible, it's way beyond the
 skills and tooling available to individuals. Most we can expect is
 H-P making a new version or selling 200LX production equipment to
 a 3rd party for further development if the need for palm-sized
 full x86 machine w/ open OS emerges. When other companies tell H-P
 they want to buy 20,000+ 486 palmtop a year for OEM, then H-P
 starts thinking or not. Above QNX thing is one such possibility).

            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:07:26 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Hinge too tight

A Meshar writes:
>
> So the teflon lubricant is some sory of oil? How about
> using just plain fine machine oil? I imagine you'd want to
> use just a few molecules at a time, easier to add them than
> to take them out :) ...
>
> I have a question about the oil, however: Won't it tend to
> gum up with tiny particles of debris and other flotsam?
> This may cause either loosening or tightening, I am not
> sure.

I went through this situation about a year ago.  My 200X was
new and the hinge was pretty stiff.  I didn't see any sign of
the crack, but it was a hot topic at the time and I was
worried.

I took off the caps and added a drop of light machine oil
at each hinge.  I worked it around for a while and it didn't
seem to help so I added another drop.  I worked the hinges
again for a while and suddenly the joints got very loose.
The lid would not stay in place after that.

My remedy for the loose hinges was to take a wash bottle
of absolute ethanol and rinse each hinge, then open and
close several times.  I repeated this process a few times
and ended up with just the right amount of tension.  My
thinking was that the ethanol would rinse off the excess
oil and then evaporate.  I don't know if that is what actually
happened, but it seemed to work.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:23:39 -0500
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              Charlie McNeil <ctmcneil@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Charlie McNeil <ctmcneil@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: HP200LX and related bunch o' stuff (UPDATE)
Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Hi Liam-
The modem has been sold. Thanks for your interest.

-----Original Message-----
From: Liam M. Early <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: FS: HP200LX and related bunch o' stuff (UPDATE)


>>U.S. Robotics Worldport 14.4 Pocket Modem. The latch on battery door
>is
>>broken, otherwise in excellent condition. Uses one 9 volt battery.
>You will
>>need to adapt the standard DB9 connector on the modem to the HP
>serial port.
>>I used an adapter from the HP connectivity kit (not included). This
>modem
>>works great with the HPLX. w/software & manual. $50. Available.
>
>
>Could be interested in this, but sorry think $50 is a bit steep, would
>be prepared to offer $20 if you do not get a better offer.
>
>>Info Select 2.0 for DOS. Another take on the above. $15. Available.
>
>Would like to have this, please put my name on it and will forward
>funds
>after you comment on above offer.  Any problems delivering to address
>below?
>
>Regards.....Liam
>
>| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
>| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
>| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
>| e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
>| e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au
>
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No thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: FS: HP200LX and related bunch o' stuff (UPDATE)


>On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:50:59 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I am interested in your palmtop but live in canada, and for you that
>might pose a problem.  If you will accept offers how about $110.00?
>
>Thanks, Charles B.
>
>>Hello Everyone-
>>I've received a great response to my post of  HPLX items, and I thought it
>>might be OK to post an update in the interest of saving everyone's time
re:
>>items that are already sold. This will be my last post of these items...
>>
>>I have some surplus HPLX items for sale, and I thought I would  give the
>>list the first crack at 'em. Please, e-mail me privately (off the list) at
>>ctmcneil@ix.netcom.com if you have any questions or would like to make an
>>offer. Everything is guaranteed to be in very good condition unless noted
>>otherwise. Prices do not include shipping/C.O.D.charges. Preference will
be
>>given to those buying a quantity of items. Thanks for looking...
>>
>>Hardware:
>>
>>HP200LX 2Meg. Exc condition, no sign of hinge crack or screen problems.
>>w/Original Box, Manuals, HP F1011A Power Supply, Sears Case #965283.
>>Listed on eBay:
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=65613926
>>
>>SunDisk branded 10Meg ATA Flashdisk card. #SDP5-10. w/HP Stac disk and
>>manual. Sold.
>>
>>Megahertz XJ1144 X-Jack PCMIA 14.4 Modem. w/software and manual. Sold.
>>
>>Megahertz XJ124FM X-Jack PCMIA 2400/9600 Modem w/software and manual.
Sold.
>>
>>U.S. Robotics Worldport 14.4 Pocket Modem. The latch on battery door is
>>broken, otherwise in excellent condition. Uses one 9 volt battery. You
will
>>need to adapt the standard DB9 connector on the modem to the HP serial
port.
>>I used an adapter from the HP connectivity kit (not included). This modem
>>works great with the HPLX. w/software & manual. $50. Available.
>>
>>Software (original disks, not copies):
>>
>>Complete set of Lotus Agenda 2.0 Manuals. Includes both sizes of software
>>disks, which are freely available for download on the web. You only want
>>this if you are in search of the manuals. Sold.
>>
>>Microsoft Works 3 for DOS. w/manual & extra book, 3.5" software disks.
$30.
>>Available.
>>
>>PC File 7 for DOS. w/manual, 3.5" software disk. Nice DOS database. $15.
>>Available.
>>
>>Geoworks Ensemble 2.0 for DOS. Graphical shell & apps. Neat. $25.
Available.
>>
>>Memory Mate. Great freeform database for DOS. Boolean searches. Sold.
>>
>>Info Select 2.0 for DOS. Another take on the above. $15. Available.
>>
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:36:52 +1100
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11h12m58s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Feb 1999 16:26:34 -0800 (PST), A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> =
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Looks like it is now your turn to give advice to me :) ---
> Well, that is what the palmtop community is about.
>
Glad to help when I can, not often I get the chance...

> So the teflon lubricant is some sory of oil? How about
> using just plain fine machine oil? I imagine you'd want to
> use just a few molecules at a time, easier to add them than
> to take them out :) ...
>
The Teflon oil I mention is a synthetic lubricant, with minute
teflon beads to increase the lubrication effect.  The beauty
is that the lubricant istelf dries, and does not attract
dirt or other particles.  It is designed for use on bike
parts, like the chain, and gears.  In that area you do not
want a petrolium based oil which attracts and builds up dirt.
With the teflon oil, the drying actually changes the lubrication
effect, luckily for this application, it makes it slightly stiffer,
possibly helping in the case of over lubrication.  But I suggest using
small amounts with waiting periods between.

The two brands I know of are:
Finish Line
Tri Flow

Both made in the USA....


> I have a question about the oil, however: Won't it tend to
> gum up with tiny particles of debris and other flotsam?
> This may cause either loosening or tightening, I am not
> sure.
>
As above...

> Oh, you use the tape to mask the area around the crack
> from the boding action. Clever... Potential problem with
> cleaning with tissues is the fibers, no?
>
Yea, I think I forgot to say I took the tape off after a day, but I
guess that goes without saying  :-)  As for the tissues, cotton or
other cloth will do.  I didn't have any problen with the tissues.

Good luck.

David

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:11:00 -0800
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     From:    David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:17:19 -0500
     Subject: Re: PDF viewer for HP200lx?


     >If you are willing to accept the fact that you would get only a
     >partial solution which might work well sometimes but fail rather
     >miserably at other times, then you have some chance of success.

     >It seems to me that the only liklihood of success is to take some
     >approach that does all of the rendering on some other device, and
     >then move the images from that world onto the 200. This is
     >essentially
     >what you would get if you printed the document and then scanned it
     >back in. Not a very satisfying solution, of course, but it is the
     >only practicable approach I can see if you need to handle a broad
     >range of PDF files.

     Actually this approach, although cumbersome, would work for me as I
     have parts specs on .PDF that I sometimes need to reference and do not
     want to me held up logging onto the network to download & print away
     from my desk.

     I'm a hardware guy, but any help I can be, call on me!!

     Joe:-{>}

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:46:19 -0700
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For anybody looking to do some coding, I would suggest maybe
looking at Derek Noonburg's Xpdf program. There's quite a bit of
code to handle, but it might give some ideas how to handle
things. My company is working on trying to port Xpdf to windoze;
for what ever reason, Acrobat cannot handle PDFs larger than 32K
pages (something we do on a daily basis). I've worked with it for
a short while so I have somewhat of a clue what PDF is all about.

JFYI, the current version of the PDF spec is v1.2. Adobe is
getting close to releasing v1.3 soon now. To give an idea of how
many more 'features' they put in, the new spec will handle things
like digital signatures and Javascript. v1.2 is about 394 pages
in size, v1.3 is about 601 pages. Hmmmm  :-|

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:49:45 -0800
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Hi,

HP has a new color display palm device, the Jornada 420, wince
and all that, but on the web page there is a PIM translation utility
that is specifically for the 200LX. The transfer is one-way only and
the help file says to Schedule+ 7.0a, but the web page also says it
will translate to Outlook. It's not _the_ solution and it's to support
the wince devices but it may help someone. It is available for download
at the HP website.

rregards,

paul

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:33:13 -0500
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              ackup Batteries?)
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Big picture of my backups:

DAILY
1. Palmtop C:(8MB) copy entire contents to .ZIP file on
2. A:(16MB Compact Flash) copy entire contents to
3. ThinkPad hard drive (1.4GB)

WEEKLY
4. ThinkPad hard drive (1.4GB) copy entire contents to
5. External removable hard drive (1.4GB)

OCCASIONALLY (more often than monthly, but not weekly)
6. ThinkPad hard drive (1.4GB) copy entire contents to
7. Home computer hard drive (8.6GB) copy changed contents to
8. Magneto-optical cartridges (230MB)

MONTHLY
9. ThinkPad hard drive (1.4GB) copy entire contents to
10. Travan-3 tape cartridge (3.2GB)

NOT-QUITE MONTHLY
11. Home computer hard drive (8.6GB) copy entire contents to
12. Magneto-optical cartridges (230MB)

Some details of each step.
1.     Exit all applications
        XtreeGold log drives A: and C:
        Delete old A:\C\BACKUP.ZIP file
        <S>howall, <Ctrl><T>ag all files on C:
        <Ctrl><F5> Archive files to A:\C\BACKUP.ZIP
elapsed time: 6 minutes

2.     Exit XtreeGold
        Turn off palmtop, remove CF card, insert in ThinkPad
        ZtreeWin log drive H: (CF card)
        <S>howall, <Ctrl><T>ag all files, <Alt><C>opy files with paths to
        K:\HP200LX\A16IMAGE(n)
        the variable in the directory name above is usally 1 to 5, depending
on
        how much I have changed from one backup to the next and I overwrite
        the oldest.  K is the ThinkPad's host drive (using DriveSpace).
elapsed time: 2 minutes

4.     Exit Windows applications on Thinkpad
        Insert removable drive
        ZtreeWin log drive K: and H:(removable)
        <S>howall, <Ctrl><T>ag all files, <U>ntag the swap file, <Alt><C>opy
        all files with paths to H:\ overwriting all existing files.
        Exit ZtreeWin, Stop removable drive and remove, returning to desk
drawer.
elapsed time: 21 minutes (over lunch or during meeting)

6.     Network ThinkPad to home system with ethernet
        Share drives from ThinkPad
        Map ThinkPad shares to drives on home system
        ZtreeWin log shares and local hard drive (F:)
        Copy all files with paths to F:\Thinkpad\ (across ethernet)
elapsed time: 2 - 3 hours (while sleeping)

7.     ZtreeWin log F:, <Alt><T>ag all matching files by attributes +A
        (archive bit set)
        <Alt><C>opy files with paths to Q: (removable M-O cartridge)
elapsed time: 20 - 60 minutes (varies depending on amount of file changes.

9.     Exit Windows applications
        Attach parallel port Travan tape drive
        Run Ditto software to backup to tape.
elapsed time: 4 hours or so (overnight)

11.    ZtreeWin again, but this takes hours and hours over several days
        I stop in occasionally to change cartridges and leave it to its
work.

>From:  A Meshar İSMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:14 PM
>Subject:       Re: When to replace Backup Batteries?
>...
>Excellent! What excatly do you do? Many people have many
>practices, and it is always to hear someone else's tricks.
>I never learn enough about backing up!

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:44:16 -0800
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Subject:      TECH: My LOTUS 123 spreadsheet is 400K and growing.. !!

I have a Lotus 123 file containing my (personally constructed)
Cantonese <-> English dictionary to which I have been gradually adding
vocabulary.  It's pretty good, but still incomplete.

After reaching about 400K in size, each addition to this file
has started eating huge amounts of memory.  Not at all
the small increments that it used to gobble up.
Is there someething I can do about this?

Is there any way to extend or expand my memory?
I've got an 85 MB flash card with lots of free memory.
I've got SUPER Software Carousel too.
I'm willing to buy an HP200 with lots more RAM
if there is any way to make use of it.
However...
I would NOT like to split my spreadsheet into 2 parts
(even using Software Carousel) if I can get away with it.
I'll do so if I must, but I dread the thought.

Many thanks for any suggestions you have to offer me.

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Manny,

Someone on the list had been offering copies of 123 v2.4 (desktop version)
several days ago.

A solution for you might be to buy and install desktop v2.4 (I know...sounds
dumb), and that version is EMS capable. The LX version of 123 was specifically
crippled to prevent activation of EMS support.

It sounds like you have the RAM and disk space to spare for the install. This is
one way to take advantage of the extra RAM.

- Longden





Manuel Blum <blum@CS.BERKELEY.EDU> on 02/10/99 09:44:16 AM

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Subject:  TECH: My LOTUS 123 spreadsheet is 400K and growing.. !!




I have a Lotus 123 file containing my (personally constructed)
Cantonese <-> English dictionary to which I have been gradually adding
vocabulary.  It's pretty good, but still incomplete.

After reaching about 400K in size, each addition to this file
has started eating huge amounts of memory.  Not at all
the small increments that it used to gobble up.
Is there someething I can do about this?

Is there any way to extend or expand my memory?
I've got an 85 MB flash card with lots of free memory.
I've got SUPER Software Carousel too.
I'm willing to buy an HP200 with lots more RAM
if there is any way to make use of it.
However...
I would NOT like to split my spreadsheet into 2 parts
(even using Software Carousel) if I can get away with it.
I'll do so if I must, but I dread the thought.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:38:16 -0500
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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Hello All,

I have created a BIOS Message Killer TSR which allows you to short-circuit
the BIOS messages for battery low, card battery low, battery error, battery
very low, backup battery low and the charging messages.

You can also turn the palmtop on and off during charging so that you can
swap PCMCIA cards. Charging will stop while the palmtop is off and return to
the charging mode when the palmtop is turned back on.  This also has the
effect of restarting the charging timer.

It also allows you to experiment with running the main batteries down to a
lower point by short-circuiting the low battery message for those that like
to live on the edge.  This option should only be tested with rechargeable
batteries such as the Nicd and Nimh types.  It is not recommended for the
faint of heart.

You can also get rid of the low card battery messages for those of you with
PCMCIA cards that erroneously give that message.

I have included this functionality in a new version of my speed upgrade
driver which will be placed on my site as soon as more testing has been
done.

The BIOS Message Killer is available from the Super site at www.palmtop.net

Cheers,
Mack Baggette

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Subject:      Skyglobe icon
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Anybody have a good astronomy-related icon that I can use for SkyGlobe?

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Subject:      Upgrades and Silicom NIC's
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I've seen recent posts on HP-LX talking about how the Accton card is the =
only network card that works with the DoubleSpeed upgrades. If I were to =
upgrade my palmtop's memory only (64mb without the 2x upgrade), would I =
still run into this problem? The reason I ask is I want more space, but =
I already have a significant investment in a Silicom card and the =
software that goes with it for network analyzing that I am unwilling to =
loose.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ


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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:22:33 -0500
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> works quite well, but I'd prefer a solution that wasn't so... inelegant.
> Is there a better way to round a value to the nearest 0.25?

@int(cellref*4+0.5)/4 or something like that.

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Patrick McGouirk wrote:

> I've seen recent posts on HP-LX talking about how the Accton card is
> the only network card that works with the DoubleSpeed upgrades. If I
> were to upgrade my palmtop's memory only (64mb without the 2x
> upgrade), would I still run into this problem? The reason I ask is I
> want more space, but I already have a significant investment in a
> Silicom card and the software that goes with it for network analyzing
> that I am unwilling to loose.

It should work fine.  (Although you should be able to run your software on
an Accton card just as well.)  You may have hope: there's a report of one
Silicom card working in a double-speed palmtop, in Germany.  So... maybe
you've got one of the lucky ones.  Odds aren't good, though.  But, getting
back to the original question... you should be able to run it with a
memory upgraded machine just fine.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:37:23 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Upgrades and Silicom NIC's

An the Accton cards are only $60 US. so, if you think about it, all you've
lost is an extra $60 and the extra cost for 2x upgrade but you'll have lots
more machine. What software are you using for network analyzing?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 5:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Upgrades and Silicom NIC's
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Patrick McGouirk wrote:
>
> > I've seen recent posts on HP-LX talking about how the Accton card is
> > the only network card that works with the DoubleSpeed upgrades. If I
> > were to upgrade my palmtop's memory only (64mb without the 2x
> > upgrade), would I still run into this problem? The reason I ask is I
> > want more space, but I already have a significant investment in a
> > Silicom card and the software that goes with it for network
> analyzing
> > that I am unwilling to loose.
>
> It should work fine.  (Although you should be able to run
> your software on
> an Accton card just as well.)  You may have hope: there's a
> report of one
> Silicom card working in a double-speed palmtop, in Germany.
> So... maybe
> you've got one of the lucky ones.  Odds aren't good, though.
> But, getting
> back to the original question... you should be able to run it with a
> memory upgraded machine just fine.
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:11:26 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tech: Programming query
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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Russell Hemery wrote:
> > Is there - a C++ compiler available for the LX that 'understands'
> > 64bit quanta ('long long', 'wide' etc)
>
> Okay, I got it working, and it doesn't understand "long long."  It says
> "long already defined."  And it also doesn't know what "wide" means.
>
> This was Turbo C++ 1.01.  Maybe BC++ 2.0 works better... Rod?  <g>

BC++ 2.0 parses the following with no problems.

main()
{
  long long a;
}

but does not understand "wide".

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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> BC++ 2.0 parses the following with no problems.
>
> main()
> {
>   long long a;
> }
>
> but does not understand "wide".

Good news... is 'a' then a 64-bit variable?

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Subject:      Re: Accton Ethernet Card
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:
> Hi does anyone have an Accton EN2216-1?  If so I was wondering if the
> Part number on it is P/N 140145-000?  TIA!

My card is a EN2216-1.

It has 146133-002 on the front.

It has the following on the bar code sticker on the back:

729005430 EN2216-1 144226-001

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:44:56 -0600
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I sent you my home-grown Skyglobe Icon.  I hope you don't mind as the
list is not pleased with binaries, no matter how small. :)

Phil

>
>Anybody have a good astronomy-related icon that I can use for SkyGlobe?
>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:22:46 +1030
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Subject:      Re: ANN: Bios Message Killer
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Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com> writes:
> I have created a BIOS Message Killer TSR which allows you to short-circuit
> the BIOS messages for battery low, card battery low, battery error, battery
> very low, backup battery low and the charging messages.

I requested exactly this thing on this list about three weeks ago.

Mack contacted me about a week later, with this TSR to beta test.

I find it hard to believe that the timing of these two events was a
coincidence, so I want to publicly thank Mack for providing a simple
tool that I know take for granted as "the correct operation of the
ON/OFF button".

Apart from the excellent service providing hardware upgrades, Mack is
a true shining light in the freeware side of things as well.

And he has released the source code!

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Does anyone have any ideas as to why these cards are not working?  Also,
could it be possible to use a speed "corrector" program while using the
card, to correct the problem?

>Phil

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Subject:      Re: Tech: Programming query
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David Sargeant writes:
> Good news... is 'a' then a 64-bit variable?

Don't know - I just compiled it and looked for compile errors.

I've got a meeting coming up - I may test it there :-)

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I sent you my home-grown Skyglobe Icon.  I hope you don't mind as the
> list is not pleased with binaries, no matter how small. :)

And it looks like a great icon.   Thanks!  If anybody else needs one... I
recommend Phil's.  <g>

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas as to why these cards are not working?
> Also, could it be possible to use a speed "corrector" program while
> using the card, to correct the problem?

Mack might want to answer this one, but from what I understand the card
does a memory check and with the speed upgrade installed, it thinks the
card's built-in memory is corrupt.  Nothing seems to help it... slowdowns
or anything.  At one point I tried wiring up a dual-mode two-crystal 200LX
that could be switched between regular and 2x mode, but it... didn't work
out, shall we say.  <g>

But, there's a report of a Silicom card in Germany that works with a 2x
palmtop.  So... it MAY work.  But the Accton cards are cheaper anyway, and
I like the connector better, so I probably wouldn't get a Silicom card
anyway.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:01:24 -0500
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Subject:      Accton Ethernet Card help needed

I got this card a few weeks ago and am finally getting around to playing
with it. I have a few questions:

I looked at the article on hplx.net but it is somewhat lacking in detail. I
was able to load the netware drivers but it won't find the server. I guess
it's because of packet type (802.2, 802.3, etc.) Does anyone have an example
net.cfg that shows how to set packet types?

The TCP/IP stuff is also a bit of a nightmare. I can't find where to set the
IP address, gateway and DNS info.

I haven't tried the netbeui stuff yet cause I need it least.

If no one has done so, I intend to write a complete detailed description of
how to do this (once I've completed it, of course).


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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:04:32 -0500
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Subject:      Accton: how about a packet sniifer ?

That's one application I would love to have on my LX. Does any software
exist that will do this? I only need to sniff IP packets.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:12:29 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Accton Ethernet Card help needed
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I looked at the article on hplx.net but it is somewhat lacking in
> detail.

Sigh... nobody's ever satisfied.  <g>

> I was able to load the netware drivers but it won't find the server. I
> guess it's because of packet type (802.2, 802.3, etc.) Does anyone
> have an example net.cfg that shows how to set packet types?

You must have the 802.3 protocol running on the Netware server too.  Do
you know if that frame type is being used on your server?  It can be used
in conjunction with other frame types, so adding it should not be a
problem.

> The TCP/IP stuff is also a bit of a nightmare. I can't find where to
> set the IP address, gateway and DNS info.

That depends on which TCP/IP package you're using...?

> I haven't tried the netbeui stuff yet cause I need it least.
> If no one has done so, I intend to write a complete detailed
> description of how to do this (once I've completed it, of course).

Do you have administrative access to your NetWare machine?  If so... I can
tell you how to set it up.

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> That's one application I would love to have on my LX. Does any
> software exist that will do this? I only need to sniff IP packets.

Precision Guesswork sells LanWatch, but it's rather expensive.
www.guesswork.com ...

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>Mack might want to answer this one, but from what I understand the card
>does a memory check and with the speed upgrade installed, it thinks the
>card's built-in memory is corrupt.  Nothing seems to help it... slowdowns
>or anything.

It is basically a hardware I/O problem with the PCMCIA controller in the
card.  Even if I add waitstates to the I/O part of the PCMCIA driver it
still can't get good data from the card.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:15:14 -0600
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Look for something called pktdem.exe
Packet Demo is a packet sniffer that will work on the palmtop, using an
Accton compatable (and perhaps other) card.
I would tell you where I got my copy, but I can't recall.  Try looking
at the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Phil


>
>That's one application I would love to have on my LX. Does any software
>exist that will do this? I only need to sniff IP packets.
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:17:26 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Accton Ethernet Card help needed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 6:12 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Accton Ethernet Card help needed
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > I looked at the article on hplx.net but it is somewhat lacking in
> > detail.
>
> Sigh... nobody's ever satisfied.  <g>

I apologize. I didn't mean to make it sound like that. The fact that you
have provided that article is very helpful along with all the other stuff on
your pages. No one paid you to provide those pages and I have no right to
"poo poo" your efforts.

>
> > I was able to load the netware drivers but it won't find
> the server. I
> > guess it's because of packet type (802.2, 802.3, etc.) Does anyone
> > have an example net.cfg that shows how to set packet types?
>
> You must have the 802.3 protocol running on the Netware
> server too.  Do
> you know if that frame type is being used on your server?  It
> can be used
> in conjunction with other frame types, so adding it should not be a
> problem.
>
> > The TCP/IP stuff is also a bit of a nightmare. I can't find where to
> > set the IP address, gateway and DNS info.
>
> That depends on which TCP/IP package you're using...?

Which is the best one to use? I would like simple ping, telnet, ftp and
maybe http. I would also love to run an IP packet sniffer but... one thing
at a time.

>
> > I haven't tried the netbeui stuff yet cause I need it least.
> > If no one has done so, I intend to write a complete detailed
> > description of how to do this (once I've completed it, of course).
>
> Do you have administrative access to your NetWare machine?
> If so... I can
> tell you how to set it up.

Yes I have admin. I looked at the autoexec.ncf and the frame type is 802.3
so now I'm really confused as to why it won't work. I'm using a known good
hub and ethernet cable.

>
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I apologize. I didn't mean to make it sound like that. The fact that
> you have provided that article is very helpful along with all the
> other stuff on your pages. No one paid you to provide those pages and
> I have no right to "poo poo" your efforts.

Oh, no, it's fine.  I was just kidding around.  In fact I've been meaning
to beef up the info for some time now.

> Which is the best one to use? I would like simple ping, telnet, ftp
> and maybe http. I would also love to run an IP packet sniffer but...
> one thing at a time.

Hmm.... Somebody help me out here.  On mine, I've got WatTCP, CUTCP, and
WWW/LX.  WWW/LX provides the most palmtop-friendly solution and has all
the clients you request (except the packet sniffer <g>) but you'd have to
pay for that... CUTCP has a really nice telnet client... LXTCP has good
utilities as well.  WatTCP has a big suite of "extra" applications that do
things like finger, ping, etc.

> Yes I have admin. I looked at the autoexec.ncf and the frame type is
> 802.3 so now I'm really confused as to why it won't work. I'm using a
> known good hub and ethernet cable.

Hmm... very strange.  Mail me privately with your settings and I'll look
at them.

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Accton Ethernet Card help needed

> You must have the 802.3 protocol running on the Netware server too.  Do
> you know if that frame type is being used on your server?  It can be used
> in conjunction with other frame types, so adding it should not be a
> problem.
>

If the card uses standard odi drivers it should work with any frame
type. We exclusively use ethernet_II frame type for our netware as
well as tcp/ip here and everything works great.

> > The TCP/IP stuff is also a bit of a nightmare. I can't find where to
> > set the IP address, gateway and DNS info.
>
> That depends on which TCP/IP package you're using...?
>
> > I haven't tried the netbeui stuff yet cause I need it least.
> > If no one has done so, I intend to write a complete detailed
> > description of how to do this (once I've completed it, of course).
>
> Do you have administrative access to your NetWare machine?  If so... I can
> tell you how to set it up.
>

Personally I wouldn't change the server to support one machine, the
other way around is more appropriate. The net.cfg file is quite
simple and there should be a sample of it with the accton card in the
netware odi directory. If you only specify one frame type then you
only need the frame ethernet_II or whatever you use line in the
net.cfg under the "link driver" section and indented a few spaces.
As far as tcp/ip we have been using the odi packet driver shim for a
long time. That allows programs that expect a packet driver to work
ontop of odi drivers. I think it is included in most of the packet
driver collections. With this the configuration is the same as a
packet driver and is usually documented in the particular software's
manual.

Pete



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> If the card uses standard odi drivers it should work with any frame
> type. We exclusively use ethernet_II frame type for our netware as
> well as tcp/ip here and everything works great.

And therein lies the problem.  The Accton cards don't have an ODI driver
that works on the 200LX, so you have to use PDIPX to make it work.  And it
requires 802.3...

> Personally I wouldn't change the server to support one machine, the
> other way around is more appropriate. The net.cfg file is quite simple
> and there should be a sample of it with the accton card in the netware
> odi directory. If you only specify one frame type then you only need
> the frame ethernet_II or whatever you use line in the net.cfg under
> the "link driver" section and indented a few spaces. As far as tcp/ip
> we have been using the odi packet driver shim for a long time. That
> allows programs that expect a packet driver to work ontop of odi
> drivers. I think it is included in most of the packet driver
> collections. With this the configuration is the same as a packet
> driver and is usually documented in the particular software's manual.

If you've gotten an Accton card's ODI driver to work in the palmtop, I'd
love to find out how to do it.  Please share!

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Did you try to use one of the programs available on SUPER that dump the
database to ASCII? You might be able to recover part of the information.

Paulo

Gary Silverman wrote:

> First question - How good is garlic at repairing a corrupted appointment book,
> or does anyone have a better idea on how I might be able to recover the
> appointment book data before I toss in the towel?

> Gary Silverman
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:44:56 EST
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I've been using the killmsg  program, and like everything else that Mack comes
up with, it is a big improvement to the 200LX environment.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:39:32 EST
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: TECH: My LOTUS 123 spreadsheet is 400K and growing.. !!
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Is your spread sheet structured so that it adds many blank cells with each
added definition?  I believe Lotus 2.4 has a memory allocation for each cell,
whether in use or not.  Thus, if you have a 100 x 100 spread sheet, and you
add a line at the bottom, even by using only one cell, you have added 100
cells worth of disk space.  If you add the cell at the corner to make it a 101
x 101 grid, you have added 199 cells worth of memory usage.  Empty lines or
cell in the middle use space, too.

Of course that's just my memory.  I could be wrong.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:23:58 -0800
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This was a common problem with spreadsheet pgms in the 80's, but the
introduction of sparse matrix management techniques made that history a while
ago.

A spreadsheet with a few cells, whereever they are located, should still be
small, even using the version on our LX....would the Lotus/HP design team have
it any other way <g>?

- Longden





"Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> on 02/10/99 04:39:32 PM

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Subject:  Re: TECH: My LOTUS 123 spreadsheet is 400K and growing.. !!




Is your spread sheet structured so that it adds many blank cells with each
added definition?  I believe Lotus 2.4 has a memory allocation for each cell,
whether in use or not.  Thus, if you have a 100 x 100 spread sheet, and you
add a line at the bottom, even by using only one cell, you have added 100
cells worth of disk space.  If you add the cell at the corner to make it a 101
x 101 grid, you have added 199 cells worth of memory usage.  Empty lines or
cell in the middle use space, too.

Of course that's just my memory.  I could be wrong.

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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>> This was a common problem with spreadsheet pgms in the 80's, but the
>> introduction of sparse matrix management techniques made that history a
while
>> ago.

A few tests indicate that you are quite right.  The problem had been solved by
2.4.  I should have checked first.

Now, Longden, have you a suggestion as to why adding new entries adds much,
much, more size to his file than it once did?  I have to  admit that I am out
of guesses.

    (Thanks for catching my mis-placed history file pointer.)

Lynn

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I will be changing my ISP soon. I have tried unsubscribing to the list but
unsuccessful using the web address at the end of hplx messages as the form
just would not be submitted. I had also tried thelist-serv without much
success.

Changing ISP soon. Email me at this mail forwarding address at
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:22:09 -0800
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I am using w32filer (from SUPER) on an NT4.1 box to copy files to/from
my 200lx using Filer on the 200lx side.

There seems to be a discrepancy in tagging files depending on which way I
am copying:

When I tag a directory on the 200lx (a:) and do a copy to the remote dir
on the NT box it tags the dir and all files under it, and copies everything
over.

When I tag a dir on the NT box (still in Filer on the 200lx, but it is the
Remote Window) it only tags the dir and the first file in that dir and
that's
all that is copied over. I have to separately tag all files under each dir I
want to copy across and do several separate copies...

What's the deal? This is very inconvenient if there are multiple subdirs to
be copied across. Am I missing a setup somewhere?

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:37:48 EST
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Subject:      Juno ver 2
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Does anyone know if the free Juno email runs on a 200lx running Windows 3.0?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Dennis

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:35:17 -0600
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              Ted Brown <brown@WORLDNETLA.NET>
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I recently acquired a Radio Shack digital multi-meter (Cat. No. 22-168A)
which has a RS-232 interface built into the meter.  The software
accompanying it specifies use of a VGA monitor which seemingly rules out
using it on my 200LX.  Is there any way around this ?  Does anyone know of
other software to perform the same task?  What I'm really looking for is an
interface that will allow using my 200LX to measure and record both phases
of a single phase supply.

TIA
Ted Brown

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:47:09 -0800
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I know I've seen something about Metricom's Ricochet wireless modem on
this mailing list; Has anyone used it with WWW/LX on a 200LX to access
Metricom's internet service? I can connect, but can't access any web
pages. Is there a special trick?

I just moved into Metricom's Puget Sound service area (Redmond, WA, to
be precise), I need a new ISP, the idea of wireless internet and
e-mail on the Palmtop sounds great, and Metricom just cut the price of
their original model wireless modem in half, $300 to $150. (What more
incentive could you want). Anyway, once I got a chance to look at them, I
promptly fell in love with the newer, smaller, longer battery life SE
model ($350), but when I tried it out in a computer shop this afternoon
I couldn't get a response from Metricoms DNSs, and got time out no
response when attempting to access a web page with its IP address.
WWW/LX appeared to connect just fine using PPP and CHAP/PAP script, and
Metricom's help desk could see my connection, but once connected I got
no further response (judging both by HV's error messages and by the
little transmit and receive lighting bolts on the Ricochet SE's
display). The help desk, of course, said that the Palmtop and DOS are
not supported platforms. I used Datacom to query the modem about the
transmitters it was connecting to with no problem. The technician/
salesman at the computer shop was equally puzzled (as well as a bit
intrigued by the 200LX).

Any and all help appreciated.

 Sharon Rose
 sharon_rose@irishrose.com

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:51:46 +0000
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Since I'm actually using my 95LX now, I need a utility to chop text files
into smaller files so that I can load them onto my 95LX.  Does anyone know
of such a utility?

Thanks,

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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:52:52 +0000
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Just a quick kudo to those at Thaddeus.  I ordered my 95LX cable, and got it
in very fast time!  I'm impressed at the turnaround time and good service.
Now,
when that tax refund comes in, I know where to purchase my 200LX.

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>I am using w32filer (from SUPER) on an NT4.1 box

*What* Version of NT? 4.1? It seems I slept too deep!

-goe-

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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: TECH: My LOTUS 123 spreadsheet is 400K and growing.. !!
Comments: cc: Cavendishl@AOL.COM

   >>> This was a common problem with spreadsheet pgms in the 80's, but
   >>>the  introduction of sparse matrix management techniques made
   >that history a while
   >>> ago.
   >A few tests indicate that you are quite right.  The problem had
   >been solved by 2.4.  I should have checked first.
   >Now, Longden, have you a suggestion as to why adding new entries
   >adds much, much, more size to his file than it once did?  I have to
   >admit that I am out of guesses.
Message-Id: <19990211065202.BAJP27138@İ12.72.154.68¨>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:52:02 +0000

Could be something whacked out in the spreadsheet. They're kind of like
little databases. Two things I'd try:

1) Export and import the data using different utilities to see if this
shakes out any bugs.

2) Build a new spreadsheet with the same amount of data and see if it shows
the same problems...that would confirm if it's related to size.

Other than that, I haven't a clue.

   >(Thanks for catching my mis-placed history file pointer.)
No problemo. Just remembered that this was a problem in Framework also
before they fixed it...long ago.

On an unrelated note, I finally got the Accton card working in the
Omnibook 800...this has relevance only because I think the problem may
have been the card. Network connection isn't always clean unless I nudge
the card in the slot on occasions, and I wonder if anyone has seen this
using the Accton in the LX (that's my next project).?

- Longden

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          ybuyukberber@superonline.com, cengiz@mail.egsgg.com.tr,
          makro@sim.net.tr, ahmeto@ankara.datasel.com.tr, ago@ibm.net,
          tansuy@microsoft.com, ekinci@aha.ru, kompusan@kompusan.com.tr,
          tayfun@doruk.net.tr, raufar@turk.net, ramazan.yildiz@mensoy.com.tr,
          koman@mag.net.tr, nolgacay@superonline.com, devirfinans@turk.net,
          lsisman@hotmail.com, oznoyan@turk.net, khorasanli@superonline.com,
          izzet@sarkhayat.com.tr, hgonullu@homestudio.com,
          ftulek@eti.ato.org.tr, baysuf@doruk.com.tr, fakin@cisco.com,
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Thank you all of you for sharing your valuable experience about backup
battery replacement. I brought this issue to the discussion after having
the following experience:
After being alerted with "Low battery voltage" message I was replacing
used main rechargeable battery with spare Alkaline ones to continue
working. I quit all applications, took out the batteries, and replaced the
full Alkaline ones. When I turned on the palmtop I noticed that I was
welcome to my new palmtop ( I mean I lost all data in C: drive). My backup
helped me but I wondered about the reason of that. I've being using my
palmtop for about 4 years with the same backup batteries which show 2.92V
nowadays.
Ideas generated indicated that one reason may be the possible sharp voltage
decrease that can be faced with backup batteries.
From now on, I decided to replace these batteries periodically (1 to 1.5
day a year). Thnx again for your valuable ideas...

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:13:58 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: TECH: My LOTUS 123 spreadsheet is 400K and growing.. !!

Longden Loo writes:
>
> Could be something whacked out in the spreadsheet. They're kind of like
> little databases. Two things I'd try:
>
> 1) Export and import the data using different utilities to see if this
> shakes out any bugs.
>
> 2) Build a new spreadsheet with the same amount of data and see if it shows
> the same problems...that would confirm if it's related to size.

I had a similar experience a few months ago.  My solution was to
identify the block containing all data in the troubled spreadsheet,
open a new spreadsheet, then do File-Combine-Copy-Named/Specified
Range.  This seemed to work and the file size shrank considerably.

Ted


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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:48:18 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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This is the text from the Post/LX help file...
>
POST.EXE needs about 175k to run.  (some text removed) Also, when going
online, WWW/LX must be running too. WWW/LX needs about 100k, so WWW.EXE and
POST.EXE need about 275k together. Together with the PE (PalEdit) editor,
SETUP or NEWS/LX, a minimum of 435k of free DOS memory is required.

It is highly recommended to terminate System Manager or to use one of the
programs that make available more memory for DOS programs such as MaxDOS or
Software Carousel.
<

I'm trying to run Post/LX via System Manager and refuse to exit to DOS to
run my e-mail and web browser.  The problem is that I indeed run out of
memory when trying to edit newly composed email.  This is the case with
both PalEdit or by using the internal editor.  The help file suggest using
MaxDOS, however they don't seem to understand that Post/LX won't run under
MaxDOS. :-(

If anyone can help me out with this I would appreciate it!  TIA!

Brian S
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You ought to get your hands on CUTZIT by David Roper.  It's Lunchware.
"LUNCHWARE  - take a friend to Lunch and give them a copy"   No registration
necessary.

I forget where I found it, but if you have trouble locating it online I'll
be glad to send a copy to whoever needs it.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:03:33 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              from "Striegel, Alan" at Feb 11, 99 08:05:18 am
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> I forget where I found it, but if you have trouble locating it online I'll
> be glad to send a copy to whoever needs it.

I think I saw it on SUPER.  Also, if you have the QEDITor, look on the
distribution disk(s) for thieir supplementary program called CHUNKER.

-Chris

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Ideas generated indicated that one reason may be the possible sharp voltage
>decrease that can be faced with backup batteries.
>From now on, I decided to replace these batteries periodically (1 to 1.5
>day a year). Thnx again for your valuable ideas...

Actually the best solution is to plug in the palmtop to the AC adapter
before changing batteries if at all possible.  Then you never rely on the
backup battery except in emergencies.  I would replace the backup battery
periodically also.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:11:43 -0600
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I wondered recently (due to some related circumstances) if the follwoowing
connection options are available:

(1) A program like COMMCHK (re-routes data from one COM port to another)
but designed for Windows 985/98/NT?

(2) A program, DOS or Windows, that would run on a computer having a
serial port and ethernet card.  The program would present a PPP/SLIP
interface on the COM port, and forward the packets out the ethernet
card.

Do either or both of these programs exist?  I sure could use them
here lately.

Thanks,

-Chris

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That sounds interesting. What do you bet that the meter is "dumb" and just
sends a continuous stream of data on the serial port with no handshaking or
anything.  If you are lucky, this will even be in ASCII and easy to decode.
Fire up a terminal program on your HP, and see what you can see! Hopefully
they give the data rate in the manual, otherwise you might have to mess around.

I've always been tempted to buy one of those things.
-Bryan


Ted Brown wrote:

> I recently acquired a Radio Shack digital multi-meter (Cat. No. 22-168A)
> which has a RS-232 interface built into the meter.  The software
> accompanying it specifies use of a VGA monitor which seemingly rules out
> using it on my 200LX.  Is there any way around this ?  Does anyone know of

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:17:13 -0500
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: File Utility for dividing text files
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I sent, via private email to David, a public domain utility called CHOP

It will take any file and "chop" it into multiple pieces

excerpt from file:

 Version %s -- 02/26/85
 1.2 USAGE: %s FILENAME SIZE -SWITCHES

 CHOP Written by W. J. Kennamer (74025,514) and released into the public
domain.

   FILENAME is any valid MS-DOS filename.  Wildcards are not supported.
   Output file names will be FILENAME.1, FILENAME.2, etc.
   Output files are always terminated with a carriage return and a <ctrl>Z.
   SIZE is the desired file size for each new file.
   SWITCHES must follow both the FILENAME and SIZE parameters,
     and may be entered in any order.  Switches may be combined.
   Valid SWITCHES are:

     -s  strict      chop file at exact SIZE boundary.

     -r  return      chop file at first carriage return
                       following SIZE characters (default).
     -px partition   partition file into x equal units.
                       SIZE is ignored (and may be omitted) if
                       you choose this option.


I could send a copy to anyone that's interested

file size  15,488 bytes



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
İmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of David Ball
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 4:52 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: File Utility for dividing text files


Since I'm actually using my 95LX now, I need a utility to chop text files
into smaller files so that I can load them onto my 95LX.  Does anyone know
of such a utility?

Thanks,

David Ball

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Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:25:42 -0500 (EST)

06h41m49s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:

> The help file suggest using
> MaxDOS, however they don't seem to understand that Post/LX won't run =
under
> MaxDOS. :-(

Hmmm...  My 200LX will be very suprised to hear that.  It runs Post/LX
under HDM (using MaxDOS).

-Peniel
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Subject:      Re: When to replace backup batteries...
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Bulent Bicioglu wrote:

> Thank you all of you for sharing your valuable experience about backup
> battery replacement. I brought this issue to the discussion after having
> the following experience:

My experience has been: don't use alkaline CR2032's.  (Bet you didn't even
know there was such a thing!)  I tried that once with mine .. and I depend
on my backup battery to keep my six-year-old pair of Energizer NiCds in
line.  Well, within about two days, I lost the contents of my RAM drive.
Thankfully, all my important crap was on my flash card, but it was still a
sobering experience.

BTW, I won a $20 credit from Thaddeus in an hplx.net contest a while back.
Has anyone actually tried to redeem their credit?  I've mailed Hal about it
three or four times and haven't gotten *any* response.  Grr..

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

Five is a sufficiently close approximation to infinity.
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:15:39 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:

>
> I'm trying to run Post/LX via System Manager and refuse to exit to DOS to
> run my e-mail and web browser.  The problem is that I indeed run out of
> memory when trying to edit newly composed email.  This is the case with
> both PalEdit or by using the internal editor.


By internal editor are you referring to Memo?  If so, you
might try starting Memo *before* firing up Post/LX.

Ted

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I know everyone here loves the Accton card, but I already own the Silicom
card and know it works. Maybe I'm just slow, but speed is not an issue for
me (space is). Also, I think the power use of the Silicom card (60mA active)
is much lower than any other card I've heard of.

I'm using a program called PocketWatch by Precision Guesswork. They wrote it
specifically to run on the 200lx, and in a network closet nothing comes
close for ease of use. They make DOS and  Windows versions as well.

Here's the URL for all those interested.
http://www.guesswork.com

Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrades and Silicom NIC's


>An the Accton cards are only $60 US. so, if you think about it, all you've
>lost is an extra $60 and the extra cost for 2x upgrade but you'll have lots
>more machine. What software are you using for network analyzing?

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> I know everyone here loves the Accton card, but I already own
> the Silicom
> card and know it works. Maybe I'm just slow, but speed is not
> an issue for
> me (space is). Also, I think the power use of the Silicom
> card (60mA active)
> is much lower than any other card I've heard of.

That's something I hadn't considered. The lower power could make a big
difference in how much use you get in the field. Does anyone know the power
settings of the Accton card?

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:45:49 +0000
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Welcome to the very pacific northWET.  You picked a great time to come.
As of last saturday, we had a record 27+ iches of rain in 3 months and
Snoqualmie Pass a record 150+ inches of snow on the ground.

It is getting to the natives and transplants (me) alike.

But it is still a great place.

Again, welcome.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:57:43 -0500
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Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>

From: Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>


>I have created a BIOS Message Killer TSR which allows you to short-circuit
>the BIOS messages for battery low, card battery low, battery error, battery
>very low, backup battery low and the charging messages.


I've been using this for a few days, and it's *exactly* what I was asking
about a few months ago.  It's great, no more hitting ESC if on AC and
booting when it switches to charging, no more delays when unplugging, etc..
A very quick blip of a box pops up, no beep, no delay..  :)  The low battery
killer I'm leaving alone for the moment, as I'm unsure of the discharge
curve near 2.0V on NiMH batteries, but this is great stuff.

Thanks Mack!

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Subject:      Re: Post/LX Help
Comments: To: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>

From: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>


>I'm trying to run Post/LX via System Manager and refuse to exit to DOS to
>run my e-mail and web browser.  The problem is that I indeed run out of
>memory when trying to edit newly composed email.  This is the case with
>both PalEdit or by using the internal editor.  The help file suggest using
>MaxDOS, however they don't seem to understand that Post/LX won't run under
>MaxDOS. :-(


Sure, 'anything' will run under MaxDOS.  Perhaps your installation isn't
correct, try running just MaxDOS from SysMgr, you should wind up in a shell.
Type MEM and see how much memory you have available, it should be pretty
high, I think I got around 560K on my machine with Buddy and some other
stuff resident.

Basically, what you'll do once you've verified MaxDOS is working correctly
is call WWW/LX from MaxDOS.  However you start WWW/LX, just prefix it with
MaxDOS.  Such as if you usually just type "www" type "maxdos www".  This
includes in icons in SysMgr if that's where you're running it from.

BTW, if you're running SysMgr too, make sure you have NoFiddle.COM loading
somewhere, as otherwise you're likely to lose data and have trouble in
WWW/LX due to SysMgr getting in the way of the com port.

Good luck.

 --
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:29:09 -0800
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> (2) A program, DOS or Windows, that would run on a computer having a
> serial port and ethernet card.  The program would present a PPP/SLIP
> interface on the COM port, and forward the packets out the ethernet
> card.

IProute does this nicely and runs under DOS.  I don't know if it
would work on the LX or not, never tried.  The IPR.EXE certainly won't,
but the IPR286.EXE might.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:35:33 -0800
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> That's something I hadn't considered. The lower power could make a big
> difference in how much use you get in the field. Does anyone know the
> power settings of the Accton card?

My EN2216-2 uses 70-90ma active.  However, if you unplug the network cable
and leave the dongle plugged in, it shoots up to about 350-400ma.  So
don't do that.  <g>

The EN2216-1 is probably lower, but I haven't tested one so I can't
say how much lower.

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EN2216-1's documentation lists the power usage at 130mA at 5V using RJ-45 (280mA
using BNC).

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 02/11/99 09:35:33 AM

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Subject:  Re: Upgrades and Silicom NIC's




On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> That's something I hadn't considered. The lower power could make a big
> difference in how much use you get in the field. Does anyone know the
> power settings of the Accton card?

My EN2216-2 uses 70-90ma active.  However, if you unplug the network cable
and leave the dongle plugged in, it shoots up to about 350-400ma.  So
don't do that.  <g>

The EN2216-1 is probably lower, but I haven't tested one so I can't
say how much lower.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:40:47 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hmm, this is how I have it setup.

In AUTOEXEC.BAT...

c:\wwwlx\nofiddle.com
c:\bin\maxdos -l

It runs all my other apps by simply adding c:\bin\maxdos.com just in from
of the normal command in the SysMgr setup.  For example I run Directory
Freedom under SysMgr like this...

c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\df\df.com

If I run Post under SysMgr like this...

c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post" |

It runs fine, but I can run an editor, but if I change the path to

c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post" |

It will start to run and then say "Unable to Execute" then exits.


At 12:05 PM 2/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Sure, 'anything' will run under MaxDOS.  Perhaps your installation isn't
>correct, try running just MaxDOS from SysMgr, you should wind up in a shell.
>Type MEM and see how much memory you have available, it should be pretty
>high, I think I got around 560K on my machine with Buddy and some other
>stuff resident.
>
>Basically, what you'll do once you've verified MaxDOS is working correctly
>is call WWW/LX from MaxDOS.  However you start WWW/LX, just prefix it with
>MaxDOS.  Such as if you usually just type "www" type "maxdos www".  This
>includes in icons in SysMgr if that's where you're running it from.
>
>BTW, if you're running SysMgr too, make sure you have NoFiddle.COM loading
>somewhere, as otherwise you're likely to lose data and have trouble in
>WWW/LX due to SysMgr getting in the way of the com port.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:35:18 -0500
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Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:25:08 -0500 (EST)

06h48m45s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Brian Sugita wrote:

> If I run Post under SysMgr like this...
>
> c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post" |
>
> It runs fine, but I can run an editor, but if I change the path to
>
> c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post" |
>
> It will start to run and then say "Unable to Execute" then exits.

Hi again, Brian-

OK - I think I see what's wrong.  You need to specify a working
directory for the MaxDOS session when using WWW-Post/LX.  Try this:

c:\bin\maxdos.com -dc:\wwwlx c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post"
                  ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

Adding this is like doing   cd \wwwlx   from the DOS command line.
Otherwise I think WWW/LX and Post/LX will look for their config files
in c:\bin instead of c:\wwwlx and fail...

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:40:37 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I figured out what was wrong...

Because I run maxdos from c:\bin\ when calling post I can't use...

c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\wwwlx\www -d "!post"

I have to specify the path for www.exe and post.exe like this...

c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\wwwlx\www -d "!c:\wwwlx\post"

Thanks all for you input! :-)

Brian S
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:45:43 -0800
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Well, the inevitable finally happened.

CIS has discontinued ASCII access to HPHAND.  A moment of silence,
please...

This is a major bummer for me, because I use Robot/LX and WWW/LX (the
D&A products) to access HPHAND and all my other email and UseNet in one
fell swoop, with modem, cellular modem, and Ethernet.  I know this
because Robot/LX just failed with a "Your communications software is no
longer supported" error.

So... I'm going to be pulling the plug on my CIS account.  Everyone,
please keep hope; AcCIS 4.0 still works, as it supports CIS's HMI
protocol.  However, AcCIS isn't an option for me, because I utilize the
Ethernet feature of WWW/LX extensively at home and at work.

It seems that every time I get a solution working that's elegant and
cost-effective, the powers that be change something to break my setup.

Anyway, we now return you to your regularly scheduled list.  Thanks for
bearing with this mini-rant.

Bill

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> Well, the inevitable finally happened.
> CIS has discontinued ASCII access to HPHAND.  A moment of silence,
> please...

In preparation for this, a few of the people on HPHAND have been working
with me and we've got an NNTP server set up at news.hplx.net.  It's not
quite ready for prime time yet, but I expect it to be up by Monday.

It won't be the same, but hopefully we can make it even better.  Out of
the ashes of this tragedy we will build a bold new palmtop world, in which
palmtops and hyenas come together in a great and glorious future!

(Okay, I stole some of that from "The Lion King," but hey...)

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:12:03 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 3:55 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ ANN: Death of a legend
>
>
>
> In preparation for this, a few of the people on HPHAND have
> been working
> with me and we've got an NNTP server set up at news.hplx.net.
>  It's not
> quite ready for prime time yet, but I expect it to be up by Monday.

telnet news.hplx.net
---------------------------------------
Red Hat Linux release 5.1 (Manhattan)
Kernel 2.2.1 on an i586
login:

I commend you on your choice of platform.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:22:37 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> telnet news.hplx.net
> ---------------------------------------
> Red Hat Linux release 5.1 (Manhattan)
> Kernel 2.2.1 on an i586
> login:
> I commend you on your choice of platform.

Thanks!  <g>  What I really need is a big ANSI graphic of a 200LX to use
for the issue.net "telnet" graphic.  Any volunteers?  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:18:44 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:55:27 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> In preparation for this, a few of the people on HPHAND have been working
> with me and we've got an NNTP server set up at news.hplx.net.  It's not
> quite ready for prime time yet, but I expect it to be up by Monday.

Will this be available to everybody or just Compuserve people? What benefits
does this have over the HPLX-L list?

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L #1857 =-=-=-=-=-*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:31:37 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Will this be available to everybody or just Compuserve people? What
> benefits does this have over the HPLX-L list?

It will be available to everybody, with some groups reserved for
particular people (i.e., beta-testing groups, etc.)

The advantages are that it will be "pull" rather than "push," i.e., you
can fire up News/LX or another newsreader to get messages whenever you
feel like it.  Plus the messages will be pre-categorized for you, so you
can subscribe to only the groups you care to read.

It's not designed to replace HPLX-L, I don't think... but it'll be a nice
supplement.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:31:57 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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Subject:      Repeat Appointment Finish Date
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I have had HPLX's since the HP95LX days and currently have a HP100LX. One
problem I am finding is that repeat appointments I put in 5 years ago are
dropping off without me knowing. Unless you actually open the repeat option
and check the end date, the appointment will stop repeating.

Does anyone have a way of identifying the last repeat appointment or a
program, like gdbdump, that will identify all repeating appointments with
their start and finish date and dump them to an ASCII file so I can quickly
scan down the list.

I looked at gdbdump and it tells you if it is a repeating appointment but
does not give you any date information.

Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location -  www.privacy.com.au

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:40:21 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Sounds like a nice forum to post things for sale...tho I think we're all more
buyers than sellers <g>.

- Longden





David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> on 02/11/99 01:31:37 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Re: ANN: Death of a legend




On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Will this be available to everybody or just Compuserve people? What
> benefits does this have over the HPLX-L list?

It will be available to everybody, with some groups reserved for
particular people (i.e., beta-testing groups, etc.)

The advantages are that it will be "pull" rather than "push," i.e., you
can fire up News/LX or another newsreader to get messages whenever you
feel like it.  Plus the messages will be pre-categorized for you, so you
can subscribe to only the groups you care to read.

It's not designed to replace HPLX-L, I don't think... but it'll be a nice
supplement.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:49:50 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Sounds like a nice forum to post things for sale...tho I think we're
> all more buyers than sellers <g>.

Good idea... I'll create a "forsale" group as well.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:13:32 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: ANN: Death of a legend
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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Bill Childers wrote:
> > Well, the inevitable finally happened.
> > CIS has discontinued ASCII access to HPHAND.  A moment of silence,
> > please...
>
> In preparation for this, a few of the people on HPHAND have been working
> with me and we've got an NNTP server set up at news.hplx.net.

This is excellent!  Finally, there will be an open forum for HP200LX
developers to share ideas and source code (i.e. you won't have to pay
big bucks to Compu$erve).

Dave, you're a genius!

İBTW, for those who only have email access, I've asked Dave privately
to set up an email list which will receive all the news messages
posted to the hplx.* groups.¨

--
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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:42:12 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> In preparation for this, a few of the people on HPHAND have been working
> with me and we've got an NNTP server set up at news.hplx.net.  It's not

and your site is down??  Where I tried leaving a similar hphand is gone
message

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:24:13 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Santosh Zachariah <zach@LIMBS.BIOENG.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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From:         Santosh Zachariah <zach@LIMBS.BIOENG.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Your opinion? PCMCIA parallel port v. Serial-to-parallel convertor

Dear list-members,

Following up on the recent thread "many uses for a PCMCIA parallel port,"
I seek your recommendations on the pros and cons of
a PCMCIA parallel-port, vs. a serial-to-parallel convertor.

Is one better than the other?
Does one draw more power?
Is one cheaper than the other?

Also, do you have any tips about shopping for one?  I presume that generic
laptop/desktop solutions will also work for the 200LX.  Or is there something
proprietary to the HP that I need to know about?

I need to print to a parallel-port printer from my 200LX.
And I don't have a desktop or laptop handy, so I can't use OmniPrint.
Any other printing solutions are welcome.

Thanks for your help,


Santosh Zachariah
zach@limbs.bioeng.washington.edu

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:21:44 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>Does anyone have a way of identifying the last repeat appointment

The simplest thing to do is press the F7 (Month) view in Appointment Book=

and scan through the months and years. Press F5 F4 to come back to today.=


.ed.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:22:49 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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              converter
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I have at least one thought on the possible differences between using
PCMCIA parallel port cards and serial-to-parallel converters.  I have a
TransPC card and to my knowledge, there is no way to enable this card in
the config.sys "stage" of DOS start up.  Ok, you ask what is the
significance of this "problem"?  It's only a problem if you need LPT
support before you get a DOS prompt (yes, autoexec.bat occurs _after_
you get a prompt, autoexec.bat is a batch file).  An example of this
effect: you can not use the "sys" driver for your Zip drive, you must
run the Guest program and "lose" the low memory it consumes (program +
environment).  If you could enable a TransPC card in config.sys, like
you can a network card, you could load the driver (which uses less
memory) before your command.com is installed. Then you can load any LPT
port dependent stuff like, Interlnk, or any printer specific driver.
Ok, you did not request this rant, but I hope it brings to light a
possible "problem" you might encounter, using a PC card vs. an external
converter.

Phil

<snip>
>
>Following up on the recent thread "many uses for a PCMCIA parallel port,"
>I seek your recommendations on the pros and cons of
>a PCMCIA parallel-port, vs. a serial-to-parallel convertor.
>
><snip>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:39:25 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> This is excellent!  Finally, there will be an open forum for HP200LX
> developers to share ideas and source code (i.e. you won't have to pay
> big bucks to Compu$erve).

Which is always nice.  <g>

> Dave, you're a genius!

Thank Bill Childers for the idea, back in... oh, October or November, I'd
say.

> İBTW, for those who only have email access, I've asked Dave privately
> to set up an email list which will receive all the news messages
> posted to the hplx.* groups.¨

And that will be done as soon as you figure out how and tell me.  <g>

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From:         "Phillip J. Allen" <paallen@IBM.NET>
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DIGEST

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:16:29 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
Subject:      Re: Skyglobe icon
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>> I sent you my home-grown Skyglobe Icon.  I hope you don't mind as
the
>> list is not pleased with binaries, no matter how small. :)
>And it looks like a great icon.   Thanks!  If anybody else needs
one... I
>recommend Phil's.  <g>


If it is not copyrighted.....could you circulate a copy to me 8-)

Regards.....Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:11:46 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: File Utility for dividing text files
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> Since I'm actually using my 95LX now, I need a utility to chop text files
> into smaller files so that I can load them onto my 95LX.  Does anyone know
> of such a utility?

How about an editor?  If you only have a few files and want to
cut them into a few pieces this shouldn't be too much a manual
nuisanse.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:11:39 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: ANN: Bios Message Killer
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> I've been using the killmsg  program, and like everything else that Mack comes
> up with, it is a big improvement to the 200LX environment.
> Lynn M. Cavendish

I must not understand something...  The messages that are being
suppressed are warnings of problems; why would NOT want to know
about them (in time to protect yourself)?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:25:53 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ANN: Bios Message Killer
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> I must not understand something...  The messages that are being
> suppressed are warnings of problems; why would NOT want to know about
> them (in time to protect yourself)?

Most of them are annoying messages like "BATTERY CHARGING STARTED" and the
"CARD BATTERY LOW" message when a network card is being used.  It also
allows turning the palmtop on and off during charging.  However, for the
daring risk-taker, you can suppress battery messages as well.  It's
completely configurable.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:34:25 EST
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ANN: Bios Message Killer
Comments: To: rlbrooks@IBM.NET
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In a message dated 2/11/1999 8:13:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rlbrooks@IBM.NET writes:

>
>  I must not understand something...  The messages that are being
>  suppressed are warnings of problems; why would NOT want to know
>  about them (in time to protect yourself)?
>

First, I am a Republican, and prefer Liberty to Security.  He who would trade
Freedom for Security deserves neither.

Second, the inability to turn  the machine off during charging in order to
pull a flash card is a pain, and is cured by this program.

Third, the NiMH batteries which Times2Tech offers (and which I highly
recommend, by the way) are safe, even for writing to a flashcard, far below
the level where the "Low Battery" message starts.  It is very annoying to be
at the Bank or Grocery Store and keep getting that annoying beep while writing
checks (i.e., Quicken entries) or following a Grocery List, and knowing that
you are safe for yet another hour or more.

But that's just my opinion.  I could be wrong.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:05:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: Your opinion? PCMCIA parallel port v. Serial-to-parallel
              convertor
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Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:57:22 -0500 (EST)

03h33m09s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Santosh Zachariah wrote:

> PCMCIA parallel-port, vs. a serial-to-parallel convertor.
>
> Is one better than the other?

Well, the S-P convertors don't take up a PC card slot.  They won't be
anywhere near as fast as a parallel port card.  You won't really notice
when printing text, but for graphics, the convertors are SLOW.  I use
the S-P convertor.

> Does one draw more power?

My convertor draws its power from both the printer and the LX serial
port.  Others use batteries or AC adapter.  Don't know how much power
the cards use.

> Is one cheaper than the other?

Yeah.  The S-P convertors are a LOT cheaper.  At least $100 (US) less.

HTH

-Peniel
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OK.  I'm ready to try Ethernet on the HP200LX.  Where can I
buy the Accton EN2216-1, and about how much should it cost?

        Thanks,
        Bob


The most powerful computer in my world is THE ONE I USE ...
the HP200LX.  Productivity and fun along the way!

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:41:10 +1100
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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The month view does not show if it is the last repeating appointment. The
best example is a yearly repeating appointment (birthdays) which would
require you to jump a year ahead for each entry. The month view only shows
the first four appointments, so you need to change back to the appointment
screen.


Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location -  www.privacy.com.au



The simplest thing to do is press the F7 (Month) view in Appointment Book
and scan through the months and years. Press F5 F4 to come back to today.

.ed.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:01 +0000
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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At 08:05 AM 2/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>You ought to get your hands on CUTZIT by David Roper.  It's Lunchware.
>"LUNCHWARE  - take a friend to Lunch and give them a copy"   No registration
>necessary.

Thanks, I'll look for this as well!

Regards,

David Ball

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> Check and see it CIC100 is in your config.sys/autoexec.bat stuff.  There
> won't be any card support unless something like it (a driver or enabler)
> for the PCMCIA (or as the new kids call it, a PC card) slot.
>
> Phil
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  Chris Gearhart İSMTP:cgearhar@NTPLX.NET¨
> >Sent:  Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:56 AM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> >Subject:       Smart Technology 6MB modem/flashcard problem
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I just purchased a used 200LX that came with a Smart 6MB modem/memory
> >flash card. I tried setting up the card per the instructions (ie
> >terminate all applications, run a:\fsetup), but the hp doesn't recognize
> >the card as a valid drive. Does anyone know what's up here? Is it
> >possible that the card or PCMCIA slot is cooked? Is there anyway to
> >tell?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chris
> >
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Phil is $99.00 to much to pay for a 1mb sram card for a HP95LX??

                        Bob

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:16:21 -0800
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> > Dave, you're a genius!
>
> Thank Bill Childers for the idea, back in... oh, October or November, I'd
> say.

No applause, please.  Just throw money.  <grin>  Actually Dave, I think it
was before then... I remember talking about this when I was at my old job.
So that was before the middle of September.

Bill

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:27:49 -0500
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"Robert H. Pigford" wrote:
>
> OK.  I'm ready to try Ethernet on the HP200LX.  Where can I
> buy the Accton EN2216-1, and about how much should it cost?

I just ordered one today.  The cheapest price I found by far was at
http://www.buycomp.com for $48.

BTW, for those listmembers that care, this card is also on the Linux
Hardware Compatibility list.
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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:46:00 -0800
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david.eggins@usa.net wrote:
 > The Teflon oil I mention is a synthetic lubricant, with minute
 > teflon beads to increase the lubrication effect.  The beauty
 > is that the lubricant istelf dries, and does not attract
 > dirt or other particles.

Good info. Interesting application.

 > The two brands I know of are:
 > Finish Line
 > Tri Flow

Thanks for the info! I'll look for these!

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:45:51 -0800
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Ted, Thanks for the comments on the hinge. Looks like maybe
this is gonna be a tough one if it does not work itself
well. I guess I'll put a drop and work it and wait a day
for the oil to spread. Then maybe another, and so on...
Maybe you just did not work it long enough, then it was
suddenly too much...

Troubles, troubles... Fortunately it is one of my backup
machines... Thanks again for the experience you provided.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:45:46 -0800
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Subject:      Re: About PDF reading on the LX (SHOUTING LOUD repeatedly).
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Tamas Feher babbled:

 >     I still see post about what version of Acrobat reader runs on LX.
 >     NONE and no new reader will ever work, you just can't write one!

Are you really so sure about your opinion? I would not be
so sure if I were you...

 >     This method must be satisfactory, as if you do not have access to
 >     the Internet on the palmtop, then you won't read PDF files there;
 >     as the only source of PDF's is the Net or some CD-ROMs (later is
 >     not commonly attached to HPLX).

I don't think this method "must be" satisfactory. It is
not. I do not like it so much, although it works. Your
assertion that the internet is the only source of PDF is
ludicrous and unthinking... There are millions of PDF files
in intranets, and many more millions in machines all over
the world.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:45:09 -0800
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Chris,

The A: drive and B: drive are part of the operating system.
You see you already have C: drive built in, so B: drive
comes in automatically, even though there is nothing
there... Not to worry. A: is not accessible because you
have no driver for it. B: is not liekly to be accessible
anyway...

The files are on the way, watch your mailbox.

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Hi all,
I fitted new batteries on December 21st - Energizer Hi Energy Lithium for
the first time.  They showed 3.2 volts, and today, 53 days later, they are
still showing 3.2 volts.  I normally get 80 days out of alkalines so I'm
not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?
TIA
Jez

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:16:52 -0800
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Subject:      Re: How do the careful palmtop users back up? (Was: When to
              replace Backup Batteries?)
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Alan Striegel wrote:

 > Big picture of my backups:

Wow! That is some comprehensive plan! I like it. I like the
idea of "rotating" 5 generations using the (n) - this helps
a lot with a database failure which you do not notice right
away...

Good job.

I use a batch file to create a variable in the environment
that corresponds to a date so todays's variable shows:
"990211". Then I can use it in batch files to name a backup
(zip archive) using the date. This gives me an ongoing and
growing stack of backup copies, but I can then go and
manually delete certain ones, move others up to another
storage device and so on.

At the desktop level I am planning to take a monthfull of
backups and put them on a CDROM, and then take it to a
storage room for long-term storage.

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Bulent:

To replace batteries do this:

1. Turn off your machine.

2. Plug the ADAPTER (stop any charging, if it happens, and
make sure the machine is turned off!!!)

3. Remove the Main batteries. Put new ones in.

4. Remove the backup battery. Put in a new one.

When you removed all the batteries the palmtop got reset.
This is how it is shipped from the factory - empty of
data!!!

If you MUST change batteries with no adapter plugged, make
sure shut down all the apps. Then make sure you have a
FRESH backup battery in the palmtop.

Then take out the main batteries, and put fresh ones in.

This procedure is RISKY!!!! It relies on the power in the
backup batteries to hold up the stuff in your C: drive!!!
If your backup battery is not fresh, you CAN (and probably
WILL) lose your C: drive and come back to a new,
brain-erased machine, like from the factory!

If you do this exercie several time, say 3-4, I would then
take the backup battery and toss it, ad get a new fresh one
to put in. Each time you remove the main batteries, the
only power that is in the palmtop is the backup battery.
After a few times of this, get a new insurance policy!
:)...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:17:05 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Post/LX Help
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Ted Heise wrote to Brian Sugita:

 > By internal editor are you referring to Memo?  If so, you
 > might try starting Memo *before* firing up Post/LX.

This not needed if your WWW.EXE/POST.EXE entry in System
Manager uses specific memory allocation. So in AppMgr entry
you'd see something like:

 Path: c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post"|285

Which would allocate 285K to this combo.

If you have

 Path: c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post"|

Then the combo will take EVERYTHING it can find, making it
impossible for Memo to start.

In any case, I am not sure that 285K or any allocation, is
now possible to run WWW.EXE and pOST.EXE and MEMO or
PE.EXE, if we also consider that most people have some TSRs
running etc. There just may not be enough memory to do
this...

I recommended at some point a dual icon approach:

1. One entry in the AppMgr has

 Path: c:\wwwlx\www.exe -d "!post"|285

But you only use it to press F5 to go online.

2. The second entry has:

 Path: c:\wwwlx\post.exe|

And you use it ONLY to read your email and reply to it, but
not to press F5 to go online. If you do, POST.EXE will
complain it cannot, that WWW.EXE is not in memory. This guy
can actually call PE to be its editor, or Memo if you
prefer.

This gets around the problem of having so much in memory
nothing works anymore.

Maybe Brian will see this and try this approach.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:16:55 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Metricom Ricochet, WWW/LX and the 200LX
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Sharon,

 > I know I've seen something about Metricom's Ricochet wireless modem on
 > this mailing list; Has anyone used it with WWW/LX on a 200LX to access
 > Metricom's internet service? I can connect, but can't access any web
 > pages. Is there a special trick?

This is strange timing. I have received my Ricochet SX
yesterday and have been playing with it. I got it because
many customers are looking for it, and I happen to live in
side a covered area...

Well, the news is not good right now. It logs in with no
trouble using atdt777**PPP or atdt777. I see a normal
exchange and all that. But for some reason there is no
respnse for the DNS ehrn I request a Webpage or when I use
Post/LX.

This is not necessarily a DNS problem, because I am
successful in connecting from Win95 using basically the
same set up. So there is something I am missing still in
the WWW/LX Plus setup.

I posted last night a query in the WWW/LX Plus Beta, and I
think there is at least one reply but I have not yet read
it.

I'll keep you posted.

 > WWW/LX appeared to connect just fine using PPP and CHAP/PAP script, and
 > Metricom's help desk could see my connection, but once connected I got
 > no further response (judging both by HV's error messages and by the
 > little transmit and receive lighting bolts on the Ricochet SE's
 > display). The help desk, of course, said that the Palmtop and DOS are
 > not supported platforms. I used Datacom to query the modem about the

This information is invaluable. I was hesitating spending
time with the Help Desk morons but I see you already found
out what I needed to know - i.e. that the connection is
made and is valid. This tells me a lot!!! Thank you!!!

 > transmitters it was connecting to with no problem. The technician/
 > salesman at the computer shop was equally puzzled (as well as a bit
 > intrigued by the 200LX).

The Tech Support at Metricom also told several of my
customers thatHP mo longer manufactures the 200LX - that
right after one of them actually bought 5 DIRECTLY from HP
- and they are freshly, 1999 Mid January manufacturing
date. Well, I said anough with the word "morons" :) ...

 > Any and all help appreciated.

So far you have helped A LOT!!! Thank _you_!

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:17:13 -0800
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bill:

 > CIS has discontinued ASCII access to HPHAND.  A moment of silence,
 > please...

Weird. I just sent a message to you from CIS. I used
DATACOMM on the palmtop to login, create the message and
send it. I.e. I was using ASCII.

If CIS kills ASCII they risk a havoc, because most Sysops
have no non-ASCII tools to manage the forums...

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 > I figured out what was wrong...
 >
 > Because I run maxdos from c:\bin\ when calling post I can't use...
 >
 > c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\wwwlx\www -d "!post"
 >
 > I have to specify the path for www.exe and post.exe like this...
 >
 > c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\wwwlx\www -d "!c:\wwwlx\post"
 >
 > Thanks all for you input! :-)

So what does that mean?

I have an order from you for WWW/LX Plus but I hesitate to
fulfill it because I do not want to sell you someting you
cannot use. I'll wait your input.

Also, it seems to me you should probably put

c:\wwwlx\www -d "!post"

inside a batch file and tell MaxDOS to run the batch file,
no?

I do not use MaxDOS, but this method seems cleaner to me.

Let me know if you want WWW/LX Plus or not...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:43:36 -0800
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Weird. I just sent a message to you from CIS. I used DATACOMM on the
> palmtop to login, create the message and send it. I.e. I was using
> ASCII.

But is that in HPHAND?  I think it's just HPHAND that he was talking
about..

> If CIS kills ASCII they risk a havoc, because most Sysops have no
> non-ASCII tools to manage the forums...

I think they'll create enough of a havoc with the Wrath of Andreas.  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:31:49 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I used the info posted recently to convert the PDF version 200LX Manual to
TXT.  It turns out around 617K and Zips to 184K.

I intend to put it into NDB or GDB Format for Portable reference when I am
away rather than carry the Physical Manual.

Any suggestions for this project appreciated. Formatting etc.

Legality?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:29:37 +0100
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Mmm, I must have missed something. Does the 200LX manual exist as a pdf
file? I don't suppose the 95LX manual does too? I want the Lotus 123 part
for referance... :-)

br

Franklin

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From: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:16 AM
Subject: 200LX Virtual Manual

>I used the info posted recently to convert the PDF version 200LX Manual to
>TXT.  It turns out around 617K and Zips to 184K.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:00:41 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>still showing 3.2 volts.  I normally get 80 days out of alkalines so
I'm
>not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
>end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?


They die very bloody quickly, be careful, I used them for a while,
then went back to Energisers or Duracells, have now gone to
NiMh rechargables, and keep two spare at all times (get 10-12
hours of use out of them).

Best regards....Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:40:44 -0800
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It means that I got it working thanks to the input of
all you great people.  Yes, I'd very much like for you
to fulfill my order.  I placeed the order because I
figured out what I was doing wrong.  I posted that last
message describing it so if others had problems similiar
to mine they might benefit from my mistakes as well.

Thanks!

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com

At 12:17 AM 2/12/99 -0800, you wrote:

~ some text deleted~

>So what does that mean?
>I have an order from you for WWW/LX Plus but I hesitate to
>fulfill it because I do not want to sell you someting you
>cannot use. I'll wait your input.

~some text deleted~

>Let me know if you want WWW/LX Plus or not...
>
>  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:37:59 +0100
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Hello,
to split and merge files I use the utility called chunker.exe, which is a
part of the Qedit word processor.
Chuker is 9kB large and splits files into 64kB chunks, qedit.com takes up
47kB. Chunker can be used with any other ASCII word processor. If you cannot
find the needed files on the WWW, let me know and I will send them by
e-mail.

Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@iol.cz

>From:    David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
>Subject: File Utility for dividing text files
>Since I'm actually using my 95LX now, I need a utility to chop text files
>into smaller files so that I can load them onto my 95LX.  Does anyone know
>of such a utility?

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Hello,
a local vendor here has the HP 320LX for 300$ and was willing to let me play
with it over the weekend. This prompted me to do some experiments on how the
320 will handle DOS programs when running the DOS emulator. The HP 320LX is
a 44MHz machine with 4MB ROM and it could run the DOS programs (I used
askSam PIM with >500kB information file) without problems. The overall
response times (screen refresh, searching etc.) was about 3 to 4 times
SLOWER than on my double speed 6MHz HP 200LX. It took some time to get the
DOS emulator running, so to help others perhaps wanting to try out the same
on other WIN-CE machines I attach a brief description of how-to-do.

- I downloaded the self extracting archive XTCE_210a_SH3.EXE (XTCE_2~1.EXE)
from WWW.
-To run DOS on a WIN CE machine first make a directory on a Windows95
machine, extract the self extracting archive XTCE_210a_SH3.EXE
(XTCE_2~1.EXE). Using H/PC link (supplied with all XT-CE machines) install
XT-CE on the handheld HP PC.
- Make a DOS 6.22 (or DR-DOS) bootable disk with simple autoexec.bat and
config.sys files and copy to this diskette the programs you want to run
under DOS (e.g. keyboard and screen drivers /include them for e.g. in the
autoexec.bat and config.sys files on this disk/ and other programs e.g. NC
or anything else you want to try out.
- Using one of the extracted files DUMPDISK.COM create a diskimage of this
disk into a file (e.g at the DOS prompt type dumpdisk a: c:\directory where
you have dumpdisk\name of file e.g. DOS622.DSK).
- Copy this diskimage file to a flash card, insert this into the Handheld PC
and run the icon for XT-CE.
- Follow screen advice.
- You will end up with DOS running on the Handheld PC. Because the XT-CE
emulator is unregistered every now and then you will end up seeing a
"Splash-Screen" asking you to register the product. Wait for approx. 10
seconds before the Splash-Screen disappears.

AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they
would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time
to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when
the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are
no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this
list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful
and interesting.
So much for a test of "new technology"
All of You have a lovely day
Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@iol.cz
bourek@med.muni.cz

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:40:31 +0100
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Hello,
To make things even smaller and versatile, I have customized the original
serial-to-paralell Greenwich cable enabling direct printing from the
100/200LX. After dismantling the snap-box of the original cable, which
houses the Greenwich circuit board with electronics, you will find, that
only some of the wires in the cable are used. Strip the insulation a bit
further on and using a mutimeter and original serial connection cable from
HP find out which pins of the 9 pin RS 232 serial female connector
correspond to which pins on the HP female connector used for pluging into
the 100/200LX.
Fine solder the leads from the striped cable from Greenwich to a serial 9
pin female RS 232 connector and also mace connection where appropriate with
the 5 wires already soldered to the Greenwich circuit board. The RS 232
connector can be attached to the original Canon printer connector housing,
when the back hole used originally for cable throughput is enlarged. The
cable of this modified connector must come out from the side (a crude ASCII
drawing is following). If all goes well, you will end up with a compact
connector enabling you to print and connect to serial ports of other PC's
when you are on the road. There is no more need to bring two cables, a
printer and serial.

For those of you, that do not have the original serial HP cable and are
interested, I will post a mail which pin in the RS 232 female connector
corresponds to which in the HP female connector.


C     ___________
A     |                        \
N     |                         \
O     |                          |__
N     |                          |    |   9 PIN
        |                          |    |   RS 232 female connector
P     |                          |    |
R     |                          |    |
 I      |                          |__|
N     |                        /
T     |__________/ \
E                               \ cable out through the side, ending with HP
100/200 LX connector
R
connector

C     ___________
A     |           \
N     |            \
O     |            |__
N     |            |   |   9 PIN
      |            |   |   RS 232 female connector
P     |            |   |
R     |            |   |
N     |            |___|
N     |           /
T     |__________/ \
E                   \ cable through side, ending with HP 100/200LX connector
R
connector


Enjoy the day!
Ales Bourek {:>
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bourek@med.muni.cz

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:44:46 -0800
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Greetings to all!  I want to publicly apologize to anyone
that I might have offended with my questions about MaxDOS
and WWW/LX.  It was not my intent to offend anyone.  I was
simply seeking advice on why it was not working for me.

I am truly sorry.  Please accept this apology.

Sincerly,

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:50:36 -0800
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Hi all!  I was just wondering has any ever gotten a Megahertz
XJ4288 cellular modem to work in the HP 200LX?  Thanks!!

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:53:10 +0000
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I wouldn't mind to see a mailing list where I can subscribe to
a daily digest containing all HPLX relevant news of a CIS day.

If someone has already a mailing list running, it should be no
big problem to put all CIS forum news into one big text file
and send it out on a daily basis to the subscribers.

Every few month I meet other palmtoppers in south Germany. They
are all on CompuServe, I am the only one from HPLX-L. They are
surprised about what's going on here, and I'm surprised about
what's going on there. I really would like to just read their
discussion.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:46:11 -0500
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How about something like this:

Highlight the repeating appointment. Press Enter to get the
Appointment/Event screen. Press F8 (repeat). On my LX I get a Daily,
Weekly,etc Repeat Options box that contains the starting and ending dates=
. =

Is that what you're looking for?

While trying to answer your question, I highlighted a repeating appointme=
nt
and pressed F5(clip) and got a small box labeled "Repeating Item Edit".
It's like the box you see when you highlight a repeating appointment and
press the DEL key, but in that case the box is labelled Repeating Item
Delete.  I thought this might be another way to find the end date but the=

next time I tried it, I got the usual Smart Clip window.  Where did the
Repeating Item Edit box come from and where did it go? =


And the answer is: if you open the appointment window and accidentally
press an arrow key and then press F5, you get the Repeating Item Edit
screen. Apparently the program thinks you've made a change and before it
will procede it wants to know if this is a change to one or all
occurrences.  This may not be a bug but it is somewhat of a surprise. =

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:59:22 -0600
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> While trying to answer your question, I highlighted a repeating appointment
> and pressed F5(clip) and got a small box labeled "Repeating Item Edit".

> And the answer is: if you open the appointment window and accidentally
> press an arrow key and then press F5, you get the Repeating Item Edit
> screen. Apparently the program thinks you've made a change and before it
> will procede it wants to know if this is a change to one or all
> occurrences.  This may not be a bug but it is somewhat of a surprise.

This behavior surprised me somewhat, too.  I think you've
nicely described the way to modify repeating items, but it
seems to me that the original question has not really been
answered:  How do we know which items *need* to be edited?

I realize that scanning through the months will work, but
it seems so...    so...    inelegant.

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:25:19 -0500
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Russell,

Rather than forcing the 200LX Manual into NDB/GDB format, please consider=

making it an HTML document. That way we could use HV as the viewer. If th=
e
index in the manual was converted to hotlinks, it would probably be faste=
r
than a search engine. =

.ed.

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> I normally get 80 days out of alkalines so
>I'm
>>not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
>>end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?
>
>
>They die very bloody quickly, be careful, I used them for a while,
>then went back to Energisers or Duracells, have now gone to
>NiMh rechargables, and keep two spare at all times (get 10-12
>hours of use out of them).
>
>Best regards....Liam
>Bunbury, Western Australia

I also  get about 10-12 hours on my Hp700 Lx with the Nicd that was in
the package.

Should I charge the NiCd overnight or is it enough to charge them for 6
hours (high).

When charging I never go aboce 2.75 V and when finished I go from 2.75
down too 2.67 rather quick.

Please advise me on taking care of my NiCd. Should I buy NiMh instead?

--
Mvh/Best regards
Martin Bergvill, Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
Tel:+4776941462
Mob:+4790199462
Primaryemail:martin@mobilpost.com
Mailinglistemail:mbergvill@hotmail.com



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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:34:38 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 08:25 AM 12/02/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Russell,
>
>Rather than forcing the 200LX Manual into NDB/GDB format, please consider
>making it an HTML document. That way we could use HV as the viewer. If the
>index in the manual was converted to hotlinks, it would probably be faster
>than a search engine.
>.ed.


Hi All

This was posted around 20 January re PDF availability

www.netcom.com/kaervek for the 200LX manual..

Russell

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:32:17 -0600
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Good idea !!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Keefe İmailto:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 7:25 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 200LX Virtual Manual
>
>
> Russell,
>
> Rather than forcing the 200LX Manual into NDB/GDB format,
> please consider
> making it an HTML document. That way we could use HV as the
> viewer. If the
> index in the manual was converted to hotlinks, it would
> probably be faster
> than a search engine.
> .ed.
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:34:57 -0600
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Nicads do this.  Their output voltage will drop slightly after the charging
stops. they should then stabilize.

Jon


> From: Martin Bergvill İmailto:mbergvill@HOTMAIL.COM¨

> .....When charging I never go aboce 2.75 V and when finished I go from
2.75
> down too 2.67 rather quick.
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:41:45 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:23:01 -0500 (EST)

31m13s ago ...
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Should I charge the NiCd overnight or is it enough to charge them for 6
> hours (high).

Your charge time depends on the mAHr capacity of the NiCads, and how
long they were used before charging.

> When charging I never go aboce 2.75 V and when finished I go from 2.75
> down too 2.67 rather quick.

The peak voltage during charging depends on the age and condition of
the cells among other things.  A peak of 2.75 volts when fast-charging
seems low though...  I got close to 3.00 with brand new RadioShack
HiCap NiCads on the first couple of charge cycles.  Now get 2.83 to
2.86 ---  The drop in voltage when charging stops is normal.  All
batteries have some internal resistance, and the voltage you read
during charge is the battery voltage + (charging current * resistance).

> Please advise me on taking care of my NiCd. Should I buy NiMh instead?

Thaddeus computing and Times2Tech have excellent NiMH batteries.  To
care for either type of rechargeable, it's worthwhile to use a charge
control program.  D&A Software sells a nice product called ABC/LX -
I think the demo is still available on their web page  --  check at
     http:\\www.dasoft.com
Also there's a freeware program called CHARGE-IT! on SUPER.  (Written
by yours truly...)  ABC/LX also continuously monitors the batteries
during use, and automatically enables charging when needed.  Both
programs monitor charging, and shut down when the batteries are full.

HTH

-Peniel
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Hi all ,

I have found that a fully charged Nicad will have around 1.4 volts max, so
2.8 is right on !

Jon


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peniel Romanelli İmailto:peniel@WEB2000.NET¨
> Subject: NiCd care (Was - Energizer Lithium AA...)
>
> > When charging I never go aboce 2.75 V and when finished I
> go from 2.75
> > down too 2.67 rather quick.
>
> The peak voltage during charging depends on the age and condition of
> the cells among other things.  A peak of 2.75 volts when fast-charging
> seems low though...  I got close to 3.00 with brand new RadioShack
> HiCap NiCads on the first couple of charge cycles.  Now get 2.83 to
> 2.86 ---  The drop in voltage when charging stops is normal.  All
> batteries have some internal resistance, and the voltage you read
> during charge is the battery voltage + (charging current *
> resistance).

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:32:02 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Post/LX Help!  I got it!
Comments: To: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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All this information helped me tweak my setup!!! I was dropping to dos,
to run post, but now I run it right from the system manager, and never
run out of memory. BTW, that allows me to cut and paste into my emails
from apps that support the clipboard. Cool!

> It means that I got it working thanks to the input of
> all you great people.  Yes, I'd very much like for you
> to fulfill my order.  I placeed the order because I
> figured out what I was doing wrong.  I posted that last
> message describing it so if others had problems similiar
> to mine they might benefit from my mistakes as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brian Sugita
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
> At 12:17 AM 2/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
> ~ some text deleted~
>
> >So what does that mean?
> >I have an order from you for WWW/LX Plus but I hesitate to
> >fulfill it because I do not want to sell you someting you
> >cannot use. I'll wait your input.
>
> ~some text deleted~
>
> >Let me know if you want WWW/LX Plus or not...
> >
> >  Avi M. İD&A¨
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:09:53 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      İOFF TOPIC¨ LXPIC on the Omnibook 800
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Hi all,

I like Stefan's LXPIC so much as a quick viewer on the LX that I've taken to
using it on my desktop, and more recently on my Omnibook 800.

Great for sorting thru my digital albums now, and when I want to send a bunch of
pictures to someone, it's just a matter of copying a crop of pictures for
preview and deleting ones I don't want to send using LXPIC.

However, the DEL function doesn't seem to work on the Omnibook 800, using LXPIC
6.1 (or 5.0)....but it does work on the LX and desktop just fine.

Just wondered if the handful of OB-800 users out there have had the same problem
(and maybe have a workaround....or even care?). I haven't checked the keyboard
scan code yet for the OB's DEL key, but I guess that'd be the next step.

There are other imaging packages that'll work on the OB, but I like
LXPIC....it's fast and simple....if only I could delete!

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:22:18 +0100
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX Help
Comments: To: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
> Brian Sugita
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 2:48 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Post/LX Help
>
> .......
>
> I'm trying to run Post/LX via System Manager and refuse to exit to
DOS to
> run my e-mail and web browser.  The problem is that I indeed run
out of
> memory when trying to edit newly composed email.  This is the case
with
> both PalEdit or by using the internal editor. .......

Did you remove Filer from memory before you startetd Post/LX?

I guess you started Post/LX using task-mgr (&...). As soon as Post/LX
is running, hit (&...) and (ESC) to close the task-mgr. Then you
should be able to use Memo to edit msgs.
It will also depend on your loaded TSRs and some other memory related
settings.

Hope this helps.

  Hermann

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:22:38 -0800
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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From:         "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
Subject:      Re: Metricom Ricochet, WWW/LX and the 200LX
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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, A Meshar wrote at 12:16 AM 2/12/99 -0800
>Sharon,
>
> > I know I've seen something about Metricom's Ricochet wireless modem on
> > this mailing list; Has anyone used it with WWW/LX on a 200LX to access
> > Metricom's internet service? I can connect, but can't access any web
> > pages. Is there a special trick?
>
>This is strange timing. I have received my Ricochet SX
>yesterday and have been playing with it. I got it because
>many customers are looking for it, and I happen to live in
>side a covered area...

As a long-time Ricochet user (Win-95), I figured I'd give it a shot with
the LX last night.  Same results y'all have been seeing: an
apparently-valid connection, but no response from DNS.  I also tried
connecting to a couple of websites whose IP addresses I knew and got no
response from those either.  I'm beginning to wonder if the connection is
actually any good.

If anyone does get this working, please keep me informed!

        S.

--
"I think tradition is what endures.  I'm partial to the erotic like having
a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river.  The
river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
                -- Akimoto Yasushi
                while judging on "Iron Chef"

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:14:05 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: CIS digest
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> I wouldn't mind to see a mailing list where I can subscribe to
> a daily digest containing all HPLX relevant news of a CIS day.
> If someone has already a mailing list running, it should be no
> big problem to put all CIS forum news into one big text file
> and send it out on a daily basis to the subscribers.

I thought about that, but was informed that it would be a big copyright
violation and CIS would react strongly.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:51:54 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      More Accton networking questions

Well, I've gotten the LX netware client working (with David and everyone
elses help. thank you.)  I do  have a followup question re: Netware. It
seems that I can't run .com files after I log in to the netware server. I
can't even run 200.com to access system manager. Any ideas?

I'm also in need of some guidance on configuring IP. I know that IP setup
depends on what package I want to use. I'm not sure of the differences but I
just want to use the simplest one that will allow telnet, ping, ftp, simple
http and a packet sniffer. If someone could include a sample config I would
greatly appreciate it.


I promise that when I've gotten this accomplished I will write it down and
put it on a Web page so that everyone can access it.

thanks

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:04 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: 200LX Virtual Manual
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Russell,

 > I used the info posted recently to convert the PDF version 200LX Manual to
 > TXT.  It turns out around 617K and Zips to 184K.

 > Legality?

Well, the PDF version appears to have not received any
permission from HP, making it less than legal. Taking it a
step further is dubitable. But who knows, maybe two wrongs
make a right? :) ...

(I know of two rights that make a wrong: "Yeah, Right!" :)
...)

But hey, I dunno...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:08 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Energizer Lithium AA discharge curve?
Comments: To: Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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Jez,

 > I fitted new batteries on December 21st - Energizer Hi Energy Lithium for
 > the first time.  They showed 3.2 volts, and today, 53 days later, they are
 > still showing 3.2 volts.  I normally get 80 days out of alkalines so I'm
 > not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
 > end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?

Lithium Ion batteries have a funny discharge curve. They
last for quite some time at hi voltages, as you have
experienced yourself. Then they'll have a short periof time
when the voltage will drop from about 2.91 to 2.5 volts,
then they'll drop like a rock at the end from approximately
2.5-2.4 to nothing.

The time spent in each stage is about 80%, 18%, and 2%.
I.e. the end comes extremely fast. When I used Lithiums, I
got about 40 hours at high voltages, then about 20 hours
between 2.9 and 2.5v, then about 1 hour from that.

So you want to be very very careful at the backend of the
cycle, they will drop like a rock.

One more important caution: The hours I got on the sets of
batteries I used, is not necessarily what you will get.
There is no way to tell what you will get, because the
usage varies so much. Some activities on the palmtop take
more power, others less. So "Your Mileage Will Vary!"...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:17:59 +0100
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              BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
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From:         BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
Subject:      one cable for printing and serial connections
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Hello,
To make things even smaller and versatile, I have customized the original
serial-to-paralell Greenwich cable enabling direct printing from the
100/200LX. After dismantling the snap-box of the original cable, which
houses the Greenwich circuit board with electronics, you will find, that
only some of the wires in the cable are used. Strip the insulation a bit
further on and using a mutimeter and original serial connection cable from
HP find out which pins of the 9 pin RS 232 serial female connector
correspond to which pins on the HP female connector used for pluging into
the 100/200LX.
Fine solder the leads from the striped cable from Greenwich to a serial 9
pin female RS 232 connector and also mace connection where appropriate with
the 5 wires already soldered to the Greenwich circuit board. The RS 232
connector can be attached to the original Canon printer connector housing,
when the back hole used originally for cable throughput is enlarged. The
cable of this modified connector must come out from the side (a crude ASCII
drawing is following). If all goes well, you will end up with a compact
connector enabling you to print and connect to serial ports of other PC's
when you are on the road. There is no more need to bring two cables, a
printer and serial.

For those of you, that do not have the original serial HP cable and are
interested, I will post a mail which pin in the RS 232 female connector
corresponds to which in the HP female connector.


C     ___________
A     |                        \
N     |                         \
O     |                          |__
N     |                          |    |   9 PIN
        |                          |    |   RS 232 female connector
P     |                          |    |
R     |                          |    |
I      |                          |__|
N     |                        /
T     |__________/ \
E                               \ cable out through the side, ending with HP
100/200 LX connector
R
connector

C     ___________
A     |           \
N     |            \
O     |            |__
N     |            |   |   9 PIN
      |            |   |   RS 232 female connector
P     |            |   |
R     |            |   |
N     |            |___|
N     |           /
T     |__________/ \
E                   \ cable through side, ending with HP 100/200LX connector
R
connector


Enjoy the day!
Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@iol.cz
bourek@med.muni.cz

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:20:45 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
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From:         BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
Subject:      File Utility for dividing text files
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"
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Hello,
to split and merge files you can use the utility called chunker.exe, which
is a
part of the Qedit word processor.
Chunker is 9kB large and splits files into 64kB chunks, qedit.com takes up
47kB. Chunker can be used with any other ASCII word processor. If you cannot
find the needed files on the WWW, let me know and I will send them by
e-mail.

Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@iol.cz

>From:    David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
>Subject: File Utility for dividing text files
>Since I'm actually using my 95LX now, I need a utility to chop text files
>into smaller files so that I can load them onto my 95LX.  Does anyone know
>of such a utility?

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:50:15 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Post/LX Help
Comments: To: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> I'm trying to run Post/LX via System Manager and refuse to exit to DOS to
> run my e-mail and web browser.  The problem is that I indeed run out of
> memory when trying to edit newly composed email.  This is the case with
> both PalEdit or by using the internal editor.  The help file suggest using
> MaxDOS, however they don't seem to understand that Post/LX won't run under
> MaxDOS. :-(
>
> If anyone can help me out with this I would appreciate it!  TIA!

Try using the Tiny editor (on SUPER).  It is only 10k and might
be small enough for your tight memory situation.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:50:20 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Energizer Lithium AA discharge curve?
Comments: To: Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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> I fitted new batteries on December 21st - Energizer Hi Energy Lithium for
> the first time.  They showed 3.2 volts, and today, 53 days later, they are
> still showing 3.2 volts.  I normally get 80 days out of alkalines so I'm
> not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
> end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?

They die pretty quickly.  You don't have to change the batteries
immediately but I would leave the HP turned off until you can a
new pair installed.  Also, be sure you backup is ingood shape.
I always have a replacement set with me so this isn't a problem
(for me).  Since mine last about 2-3 months this occasional
event is worth the bother for the long life they give me.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:57:53 +0000
Reply-To:     ted@nicar.org
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From:         Ted Peterson <ted@NICAR.ORG>
Organization: IRE/NICAR
Subject:      PDF to text for LX
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I don't have an HP-200LX yet, but I want one and was curious about
PDF conversion for DOS since we use PDFs alot at work.

There's an x86/Win31/Win95/WinNT port, from Michael Richmond, of
pdftotext and pdftops, part of the XPDF PDF software package.  The
source includes Win32 makefiles, but the included pdftotext.exe and
pdftops.exe executables run in DOS:
ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/xpdf-0.80-win.zip
http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/

To generate a plain text file, run pdftotext:

  pdftotext file.pdf


txt2pdf is Text-To-PDF software for DOS with TP7/BP7 source:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/6789/pdfindex.html

Misc. PDF to text conversion info:
http://www.empowermentzone.com/acc_pdf.txt

There used to be mail servers setup to accept documents for PDF
conversion, but I don't know if they still work:

pdf2txt@adobe.com
pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu
pdf2html@adobe.com
pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu

There are several web sites that will convert to/from PDF.

convert PDF to text:
http://access.adobe.com

convert PDF to 94 image formats:
http://www.handmade.com/hsi/web_alchemyps.html

convert PDF to ps:
http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/PDF/pdf2ps

online distiller converts ps files to PDF:
http://www.babinszki.com/distiller/

The tools at http://www.pdfzone.com are excellent.

There's DOS software called Image Alchemy that will convert a PDF to
one of 94 graphic formats.  Unfortunately, it's a 32bit program that
requires a 386 machine.  One web page says that the demo, Alchemy.exe,
is a 16 bit DOS executable, so perhaps it will work on the HP-200LX
(but farther down the page, it lists a 386 in the requirements). See:
http://www.handmade.com/hsi/installpc.html

pj is a free, open source Java class library for parsing,
manipulating, and creating Adobe PDF files:  http://www.etymon.com/pj/

retep, another Java PDF library:  http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf/

Maybe HTMLDOC could be ported:  http://www.easysw.com/~mike/htmldoc/

PDFprint can print to ascii.  It uses Perl 5.0, so maybe Perl for DOS
could be used to port it:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4794/pdfprint/

--Ted



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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:11:04 -0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Metricom Ricochet, WWW/LX and the 200LX
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I don't know how the Ricochet works, but it took me a while to sort out my
IP connection under GP (which uses EPPPD) for an ordinary modem.  It just
sounds similar - OK in W95, not in the LX.

The problem I saw was that I connected OK to our company dial-up service,
did all the tricky authentication etc.  But I could not reach the POP server
except by IP address.   I was advised by Steve Lawson to try some of the
utilities that hang round with WATTCP, and so I hooked up MT and a couple of
NSLOOKUP type programs (apologies to the authors for not recalling who wrote
what).

This showed that any attempt to talk to the DNS server failed.  I could ping
it (I could even Telnet to it by address) but DNS queries failed.  So my
advice for step 1 is to try and identify the default gateway for have been
set up by the Ricochet service with - I guess this is the nearest point to
you on the net, like the dial-in server.  If you can ping that then you *do*
have a connection of some kind.

Then try to ping the DNS by IP address (you can always use your W95 box to
work these addresses out).  If that works then try an NSLOOKUP package,
there are all sorts of debug hooks in some.

At the end for me it turned out to be a filter in EPPPD that was designed (I
think) to filter XON/XOFF out of the data, but this caused the DNS packets
to fail, don't ask me why it should, I'm not clever enough.  If your
symptoms are similar, see if you have similar controls you can adjust. This
was EPPPD:

Did not work for me:

EPPPD pktvec 0x62 -as a0000 file GPIPF.CFG

Did work for me:

EPPPD pktvec 0x62 file GPIPF.CFG

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They have a steep discharge curve, but I love them.  I get 22-24 Buddy hours
out of a pair.  They are lightweight and work in all temperatures (okay, a
broad range).  They last a long time and have a long shelf life, as well.  I
use BattCheck2Do (see SUPER) which warns me on my calendar when the voltage
is starting to gtet low and I take heed and carry around extra batteries
once I see that.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jez Cunningham İmailto:Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR¨
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 3:10 AM
> Subject: Energizer Lithium AA discharge curve?
>
>
> Hi all,
> I fitted new batteries on December 21st - Energizer Hi Energy Lithium for
> the first time.  They showed 3.2 volts, and today, 53 days later, they are
> still showing 3.2 volts.  I normally get 80 days out of alkalines so I'm
> not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
> end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?
> TIA
> Jez
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:21:52 -0800
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If anybody has questions about the news.hplx.net server, I've set up a web
page at the same address, http://news.hplx.net (or, for WWW/LX users,
http://www.hplx.net/news/ ).

You can also sign up for access there.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:49:35 -0800
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> EPPPD pktvec 0x62 -as a0000 file GPIPF.CFG

Interesting, this default line allows XON/XOFF to be escaped
(just in case the modem traps it) but allows all other control
characters to go through as-is.

> Did work for me:
>
> EPPPD pktvec 0x62 file GPIPF.CFG

Not specifying an asyncmap causes every control character
to be escaped.  Obviously some character besides xon/xoff
is messing up the connection.  It would be nice to know
which it is, escaping every control character should degrade
throughput quite alot I would think.

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> I like Stefan's LXPIC so much as a quick viewer on the LX that I've =
taken to
> using it on my desktop, and more recently on my Omnibook 800.
>
> However, the DEL function doesn't seem to work on the Omnibook 800, =
using LXPIC
> 6.1 (or 5.0)....but it does work on the LX and desktop just fine.

Do you get the "delete(y/n):" question and are you sure to
answer with 'y' and not 'Y'?

I just checked my code and saw, that I only accept lower case y.
The scan code of the DEL key on the HP is 5300 hex. If the scan
code differs on the Omnibook, you should not see the delete(y/n)
question.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:13:02 +0000
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At 05:31 PM 2/12/99 +1100, Russel Hemery wrote:

>I used the info posted recently to convert the PDF version 200LX Manual to
>TXT.  It turns out around 617K and Zips to 184K.

The question I have is where does one obtain the PDF version of the 200LX
manual?

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:26:13 +0000
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At 10:37 AM 2/12/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello,
>to split and merge files I use the utility called chunker.exe, which is a
>part of the Qedit word processor.
>Chuker is 9kB large and splits files into 64kB chunks, qedit.com takes up
>47kB. Chunker can be used with any other ASCII word processor. If you cannot
>find the needed files on the WWW, let me know and I will send them by
>e-mail.

If you could send the file by email, that would be great if it's not
inconvenient.
(Note, I only need the Chunker utility as I'm using the wonderful Vertical
Reader utility program.  )

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:23:11 -0600
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I have just received my Accton card and would sure benefit from a detailed
step-by-step
procedure for installing and getting it to see a Novell network. Please note
'detailed' as some of us are not experienced as others.

Ed Padin wrote:

> Well, I've gotten the LX netware client working (with David and everyone
> elses help. thank you.)  I do  have a followup question re: Netware. It
> seems that I can't run .com files after I log in to the netware server. I
> can't even run 200.com to access system manager. Any ideas?
>
> I'm also in need of some guidance on configuring IP. I know that IP setup
> depends on what package I want to use. I'm not sure of the differences but I
> just want to use the simplest one that will allow telnet, ping, ftp, simple
> http and a packet sniffer. If someone could include a sample config I would
> greatly appreciate it.
>
> I promise that when I've gotten this accomplished I will write it down and
> put it on a Web page so that everyone can access it.
>
> thanks
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Hey all -

I recently fried my c: drive with some programming that went south. I am
having an interesting problem since then, however. My XJ1144 modem no longer
seems to be seen by the palmtop, though I am using it successfully in my
notebook right now. Both of my flashdisks are working fine.

Anyone have any ideas? I have tried to talk to the modem both with WWW/LX
and with DataComm.

Thanks,
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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:41:59 -0800
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 > This was posted around 20 January re PDF availability
 >
 > www.netcom.com/kaervek for the 200LX manual..

Sounds like Brian Sugita(?) --- Brian? I could not find
this on the Web...

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Subject:      Re: Energizer Lithium AA discharge curve?
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 > When charging I never go aboce 2.75 V and when finished I go from 2.75
 > down too 2.67 rather quick.

Each NiMH cell is rated at a little over 1.3V nominal. Two
of them will give nominal voltage of 2.6+. They can
certainyl be pushed up, but it is meaningless, and they
drop to their normal range. In their operating range they
spend a lot od time (i.e. between 2.6 and 2.40) and that is
what is important, not the peaks.

NiCDs are similar in voltage, a bit higher. Generally NiCDs
can hold a max of about 850mAh in the AA format, and the
NiMH hold about 1100mAh in the same format, i.e. a little
better energy density.

They both have excellent operating range and recovery in
the low range. You'll get about 25-35% more service time
from NiMH than NiCD, but the NiCDs may be less expensive.
One more thing to consider is that NimH are much more
ecology-friendly!

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:42:02 -0800
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Herman,

 > I guess you started Post/LX using task-mgr (&...). As soon as Post/LX
 > is running, hit (&...) and (ESC) to close the task-mgr. Then you
 > should be able to use Memo to edit msgs.
 > It will also depend on your loaded TSRs and some other memory related
 > settings.

Will this really work? I never tried it! It seems though
that the application Mgr when closed will take down
Post/LX, no?

Separately, there is a great little program called
CLOSEFLR.COM by Mark Scardna (is it on SUPER? I dunno...).
You run it once. It change APPMGR.DAT file (in C:|_DAT) so
that the specifications for Filer are such that when it
runs and you close it it will actually close, releasing 56K
of memory. Normally when you shut down FILER, it just goes
to sleep, but still keeps the 56K memory.

The proper procedure:

1. Run CLOSEFLR.

2. Start FILER blue button.

3. Don't quit FILER!!!, just press blue & buttom (MORE).

4. Move the cursor to highlight Filer.

5. Press F6.

Check the memory!

To restart Filer, you have to press the button two times,
that is normal.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:41:43 -0800
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Subject:      Re: DOS emmulators for Windows CE / compared to 200 LX
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 > a local vendor here has the HP 320LX for 300$ and was willing to let me play
 > with it over the weekend. This prompted me to do some experiments on how the
 > 320 will handle DOS programs when running the DOS emulator. The HP 320LX is
 > a 44MHz machine with 4MB ROM and it could run the DOS programs (I used
 > askSam PIM with >500kB information file) without problems. The overall
 > response times (screen refresh, searching etc.) was about 3 to 4 times
 > SLOWER than on my double speed 6MHz HP 200LX. It took some time to get the
 > DOS emulator running, so to help others perhaps wanting to try out the same
 > on other WIN-CE machines I attach a brief description of how-to-do.

Your unspeeded 200LX runs at 7.9somethig MHz, the double
speed is double that so about 15.8somethingsomething :) ...

The instructions are lucid, thank you. I did not actually
try them...

 > AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they
 > would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time
 > to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when
 > the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are
 > no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this
 > list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful
 > and interesting.
 > So much for a test of "new technology"

I worked with some engineers and software hotshots on
estimating what it will take to port the workload many of
us run through the 200LX into a WinCE. They worked in
pairs, and we had 6 teams doing these evaluations based on
all sorts of benchmarks, trials etc. The estimates arrived
at called for a 450MHz to 750MHz cpu in the WinCE to
process the same workload.

Caverat: The machines would all be amulating a 80186 using
the XTCE.

In the meeting where their teams presented their findings,
I heard several computer executives from Asia mumble about
why the estimates were so low! :)

Anyway, the power requirements are staggering. Also, it was
pointed out the mahine itself would have to grow so it can
accomodate enough heat dissipation to chips running so hot.

Yeah, so much for "new technology". The world's population
would have to lose a significant portion of their
brainpower to buy that joke!

Thank you for the post!

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:41:48 -0800
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Brian, Some megahertz modems just take too much power.
Others require a strange and convoluted initialization.

I have this information, but it may not necessarily fit all
modems. We recently found that even modems of the same
model have different internals!!! Strange way to bring
order to their market! :¨

Here is what I got:

Land line:  at &fm1&C1&d2&q&k&s1w2s95=0\n\g0%c0

Cell phone:  at &f1m1&C1&d2&q&k&s1w2s95=0\n\g0%c0

Try it, and see if it makes sense and if it works.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:44:13 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Metricom Ricochet, WWW/LX and the 200LX
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"Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK> Writes:

 > I don't know how the Ricochet works, but it took me a while to sort out my
 > IP connection under GP (which uses EPPPD) for an ordinary modem.  It just
 > sounds similar - OK in W95, not in the LX.
 >
 > The problem I saw was that I connected OK to our company dial-up service,
 > did all the tricky authentication etc.  But I could not reach the POP server
 > except by IP address.   I was advised by Steve Lawson to try some of the
 > utilities that hang round with WATTCP, and so I hooked up MT and a couple of
 > NSLOOKUP type programs (apologies to the authors for not recalling who wrote
 > what).
 >
 > This showed that any attempt to talk to the DNS server failed.  I could ping
 > it (I could even Telnet to it by address) but DNS queries failed.  So my
 > advice for step 1 is to try and identify the default gateway for have been
 > set up by the Ricochet service with - I guess this is the nearest point to
 > you on the net, like the dial-in server.  If you can ping that then you *do*
 > have a connection of some kind.

It is not similar here. I could not PING the Ricochet DNS
servers by IP. I did not try to Telnet to them :) ...

The way Ricochet works is so: It is a Hayes modem to the LX
(or Win95). It is a radio outward from the modem. So it
sends these radio signals to a network of repeaters which
ultimately leads the signal to a computer they have which
connects via landlines to their main computer. I believe
the TCP/IP protocol runs on top of this radio signal. and
talks to their "central" computer, which behaves like the
"dial in" computer. The login process seems to work fine,
since Tech support can actually see the connection Sharon
made (and I presume I make etc...)

Using these beasts on Win95 is no problem, but something is
missing in the LX side. I posted another message here with
a summary of my discussion with my partner, Andreas, who
wrote WWW/LX Plus.

 > Then try to ping the DNS by IP address (you can always use your W95 box to
 > work these addresses out).

How do you work this out with Win95? I had to do all sorts
of unnaturlal acts :) to find the IP of some web servers
and other servers...

 > At the end for me it turned out to be a filter in EPPPD that was designed (I
 > think) to filter XON/XOFF out of the data, but this caused the DNS packets
 > to fail, don't ask me why it should, I'm not clever enough.  If your
 > symptoms are similar, see if you have similar controls you can adjust. This
 > was EPPPD:
 >
 > Did not work for me:
 >
 > EPPPD pktvec 0x62 -as a0000 file GPIPF.CFG
 >
 > Did work for me:
 >
 > EPPPD pktvec 0x62 file GPIPF.CFG

Very interesting! Thank you for the info.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Stefan,

 > I wouldn't mind to see a mailing list where I can subscribe to
 > a daily digest containing all HPLX relevant news of a CIS day.
 >
 > If someone has already a mailing list running, it should be no
 > big problem to put all CIS forum news into one big text file
 > and send it out on a daily basis to the subscribers.

Except that CIS views the messages posted as their own
copyrighted property, and you cannot copy it like that.
People have tried it before and CIS resisted... :( ...

And now of course they shut down the ASCII interface to
HPHAND overnight without warning, quite rudely.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:51:02 +0000
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> Rather than forcing the 200LX Manual into NDB/GDB format, please consider
> making it an HTML document. That way we could use HV as the viewer. If th


I thought I recall someone was doing that????

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> not expecting them to run out anytime soon, but when they get near to
> end-of-life are they going to fade slowly or go out with a rush?

Well, a sort of rush.  i have used them for years and never had a
problem.  They drop to around 2.43 or less and still run.  And i ahve
gotten a few low battery warnings while using my xjack244 and still
did not crash, altho I do not recommend that as common practice (g)

So don't worry and go for a low warning and replace them - with you
usage pattern they should last years!! (g)

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:44:08 -0800
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Highly-exaggerating "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
wrote: :-¨

Steven, and Sharon, and all:

 > Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, A Meshar wrote at 12:16 AM 2/12/99 -0800

Thanks for this undeserving description! :)

 > As a long-time Ricochet user (Win-95), I figured I'd give it a shot with
 > the LX last night.  Same results y'all have been seeing: an
 > apparently-valid connection, but no response from DNS.  I also tried
 > connecting to a couple of websites whose IP addresses I knew and got no
 > response from those either.  I'm beginning to wonder if the connection is
 > actually any good.

I have spent lots of time on it in last two days. So far we
have learned a lot, but it is not working yet. Andreas
(whom I called in Switzerland) and I discussed this. He
thinks that perhaps what is in the way is a proxy server on
the Ricochet side. Anyone knows anything about that? He
seems to think that Win95 sets this up automatically, I
just don't know.

My own Win95 installation works flwlessly. The Modem was
recognised instantly on my OB800 Win95, I just created a
connection, put in the data, and away we went! But I have
no indication about any proxy server, and in fact, if
anyone wants to give a tutorial about it here, Go for it!

I did a PING to their two DNS IPs and I get a flood of
packets coming from an unknown host according to PING/LX.

Also created a few other little things for Andreas to look
over. unfortunately, he is going to be unavailable in the
next week, and the week after, I'll be at a conference in
San Francisco... Yes, I am taking my Ricochet to the Land
Of Ricochet (SF Bay Area) but that is no guarantee I'll
have success, and/or time to work it.

So perhaps this info will add something to the communal
knowledge... Any ideas anyone?

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:07:34 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Hinge too tight

A Meshar writes:

> Maybe you just did not work it long enough, then it was
> suddenly too much...

Yes, that is my conclusion also.  Good luck!

Ted

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF OFF TOPIC  Windows V Mem Management
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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> >From a wintips list Apparently the disk swap file in Win 9x only
> grows..Never shrinks..until reboot if windows manages memory..seems to =
have
> continued to CE versions..

This is certainly not correct for Win95. If you check the size
of the swap file, you will see that during periods of
inactivity, Win95 will purge the swap file and its size will
drop way down.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:31:33 -0800
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Hi David!  You can find it on my web sight.

http://www.netcom.com/~kaervek/


At 07:13 PM 2/12/99 +0000, you wrote:
>At 05:31 PM 2/12/99 +1100, Russel Hemery wrote:
>
>>I used the info posted recently to convert the PDF version 200LX Manual to
>>TXT.  It turns out around 617K and Zips to 184K.
>
>The question I have is where does one obtain the PDF version of the 200LX
>manual?

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Its there, but the post has a small error is all. :)

The url is...

www.netcom.com/~kaervek/


At 06:41 PM 2/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> > This was posted around 20 January re PDF availability
> >
> > www.netcom.com/kaervek for the 200LX manual..
>
>Sounds like Brian Sugita(?) --- Brian? I could not find
>this on the Web...

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Brian, Add this line to your AUTOEXEC.BAT:

:: -- This program is required to recognize a modem in the PCMCIA
 d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1

Enjoy.

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did you restore the cic100 line to use the pcmcia modem?

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Subject:      LX Quicken question

The way I have to enter new items in my LX's Quicken, I almost always need
to change the date.  The quick entry feature is excellent BUT it loses
much of its value to me because when I press F2 to enter a new item, the
first field the cursor goes to is not the date field.  Therefore I either
have to cycle forward all the way through the memorized transaction or
press Shift-Tab to move "back" to the date field.  Both are inconvenient
because with the memorized transactions other than the date, all I usually
need to enter is the amount.

Is there a way to have the entry screen start at the date field?  I have
not found it if there is one.

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:43:26 -0500
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Subject:      Re: İOFF TOPIC¨ LXPIC on the Omnibook 800
Comments: cc: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE

   >> However, the DEL function doesn't seem to work on the Omnibook
   >>800, using LXPIC 6.1 (or 5.0)....
Message-Id: <19990213044420.EGWR27567@İ12.72.154.246¨>
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:44:20 +0000

   >Do you get the "delete(y/n):" question and are you sure to
   >answer with 'y' and not 'Y'?
   >I just checked my code and saw, that I only accept lower case y.
   >The scan code of the DEL key on the HP is 5300 hex. If the scan
   >code differs on the Omnibook, you should not see the delete(y/n)
   >question.

That is the case with the Omnibook...I never see the "delete(y/n)"
question.

I'm embarrassed I didn't mention that as a symptom.

Too bad LXPRO doesn't work on the OB...guess I'll have to find another way
to capture the scan code for the DEL key.

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Subject:      Re: Modem Question
Comments: cc: bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM

   >I recently fried my c: drive with some programming that went south.
   >I am having an interesting problem since then, however. My XJ1144
   >modem no longer seems to be seen by the palmtop, though I am using
   >it successfully in my notebook right now. Both of my flashdisks are
   >working fine.
   >Anyone have any ideas? I have tried to talk to the modem both with
   >WWW/LX and with DataComm.
Message-Id: <19990213044444.EGZA27567@İ12.72.154.246¨>
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:44:44 +0000

I'd suggest the exercise of removing all your batteries (including the
backup) and holding the ON key for a minute to drain the system. There
are some areas in memory that are persistent (even thru boots) that
have resulted in battery problems for some users...and maybe modem
problems for you.

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Subject:      Re: DOS emmulators for Windows CE / compared to 200 LX
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From: bob1 <camba1@pacbell.net> writes:

 > GREAT REPORT! BUT HOW CAN WE GET HP TO LISTEN TO US (95,100,200,700
 > LX'S)
 > UPGRADE THE 200LX PLATFORM!! HP IS SO LOCK INTO WINDOWS IT'S A SHAME
 > HP HAS TO MAKE THE

HP will not listen, their brains have been
sucked out by the Great Assimilator of the North! (Read
that as "Microsoft".)

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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Throw Money (was: ANN: Death of a legend)
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Hi S.U.P.E.R. Team, Supporters, SW-Gurus, LX-Fans,...

I thougt about how to support your valuable work - so tell me where
to 'throw the money'.
Would not be too much, but if there are some more people willing to
throw.

The money could be invested for buying hardware, or for testing new
products, or an award for the program of the year, ...., or to honor
a person, ...

 Hermann


> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
> Bill Childers
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 6:16 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: ANN: Death of a legend
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, David Sargeant wrote:
>
> > > Dave, you're a genius!
> >
> > Thank Bill Childers for the idea, back in... oh, October or
> November, I'd
> > say.
>
> No applause, please.  Just throw money.  <grin>  Actually
> Dave, I think it
> was before then... I remember talking about this when I was
> at my old job.
> So that was before the middle of September.
>
> Bill
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A Meshar wrote:
>
>  > a local vendor here has the HP 320LX for 300$ and was willing to let me play
>  > with it over the weekend. This prompted me to do some experiments on how the
>  > 320 will handle DOS programs when running the DOS emulator. The HP 320LX is
>  > a 44MHz machine with 4MB ROM and it could run the DOS programs (I used
>  > askSam PIM with >500kB information file) without problems. The overall
>  > response times (screen refresh, searching etc.) was about 3 to 4 times
>  > SLOWER than on my double speed 6MHz HP 200LX. It took some time to get the
>  > DOS emulator running, so to help others perhaps wanting to try out the same
>  > on other WIN-CE machines I attach a brief description of how-to-do.
>
> Your unspeeded 200LX runs at 7.9somethig MHz, the double
> speed is double that so about 15.8somethingsomething :) ...
>
> The instructions are lucid, thank you. I did not actually
> try them...
>
>  > AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they
>  > would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time
>  > to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when
>  > the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are
>  > no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this
>  > list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful
>  > and interesting.
>  > So much for a test of "new technology"
>
> I worked with some engineers and software hotshots on
> estimating what it will take to port the workload many of
> us run through the 200LX into a WinCE. They worked in
> pairs, and we had 6 teams doing these evaluations based on
> all sorts of benchmarks, trials etc. The estimates arrived
> at called for a 450MHz to 750MHz cpu in the WinCE to
> process the same workload.
>
> Caverat: The machines would all be amulating a 80186 using
> the XTCE.
>
> In the meeting where their teams presented their findings,
> I heard several computer executives from Asia mumble about
> why the estimates were so low! :)
>
> Anyway, the power requirements are staggering. Also, it was
> pointed out the mahine itself would have to grow so it can
> accomodate enough heat dissipation to chips running so hot.
>
> Yeah, so much for "new technology". The world's population
> would have to lose a significant portion of their
> brainpower to buy that joke!
>
> Thank you for the post!
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>
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GREAT REPORT! BUT HOW CAN WE GET HP TO LISTEN TO US (95,100,200,700
LX'S)
UPGRADE THE 200LX PLATFORM!! HP IS SO LOCK INTO WINDOWS IT'S A SHAME
HP HAS TO MAKE THE

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From:         Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Mobile Printing

   I am trying to set myself up with mobile printing capabilities.Cheap.
(hopefully).
    I have acquired a Diconix 150 Plus. I do not have documentation for
this unit and it appears that someone has "doctored" the dip pin
selections.  The unit will print one page and then not clear, simply
continuing to print that one page until I down power it to clear any
memory registers.
Can anyone point my toward a resource for documentation for this unit?
   Failing this, what is the general opinion of the BJC-50 and BJC-80 by
Canon. Remanufactured units are available and within my budget, and are
described as having IR capability.
With the correct drivers can I use thes with my HP200LX?
                                                   TIA,Bob Perron

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From:         Robert Perron <trefrgfrmr@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Viking Flash Card

   I am a fairly recent owner of a 200LX. Love it. I purchased a 32 meg
Viking flash card and compact flash adapter from CompUSA , got a good
price, popped it into my machine and drove on. .  .no problem and serves
me well.
   However, my 200LX has started to develope the dreaded missing lines
along the left margin of the display, and now has started pulsing and
flashing for about the first inch from the left. . .right in the middle
of the first column of a database display. My understanding is that this
will require major repair and I am preparing to send my unit in for just
that.
   My problem: I have learned to NOT live without my "little brain" and
so  have purchased a used HP-100LX as a back-up while I send off the
200LX. HOWEVER. . .the 100LX does not see my ATA-compliant Viking Compact
Flash Adapter. Will the ACE card driver I have seen mentioned enable my
100 to 'see' my card? And where might I locate a copy ?
                                               TIA,  Bob Perron

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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> > Rather than forcing the 200LX Manual into NDB/GDB format, please =
consider
> > making it an HTML document. That way we could use HV as the viewer. =
If th
>
> I thought I recall someone was doing that????

No, it was a HTML version of The HP 100LX/200LX Developer's Guide- which
is now available on Thaddeus CD InfoBase CD-ROM.


Regards,


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Hi!
>
> To generate a plain text file, run pdftotext:
>
>   pdftotext file.pdf
>
But the problem is that this program will not run on the 200LX. It had
been great to have a PDF converter/viewer running on the 200LX. Now some
of you might say like a programmer doing commercial PDF programs told
me: "it's not possible to do it on a 186 processor!". But I am 100% sure =
it
would be possible- but maybe slow. Anything is possible on the 200LX and
as I recall, some time ago it was a discussen on this list if it was
possible or not to make 3D games on the 200LX. It must be since I
have several old commercial 3D games which runs without a problem- such
as Grand Prix, In The Eye Of The Beholder, Bob 1940 e.t.c.

So instead of discussing if it can be done or not, I think that the
relevant question is if there is someone with the knowledge that are
interested to do such a program?

Regards,

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> > (2) A program, DOS or Windows, that would run on a computer having a
> > serial port and ethernet card.  The program would present a PPP/SLIP
> > interface on the COM port, and forward the packets out the ethernet
> > card.
>
> IProute does this nicely and runs under DOS.  I don't know if it
> would work on the LX or not, never tried.  The IPR.EXE certainly won't,
> but the IPR286.EXE might.

Thanks.  I downloaded this today.  I noted that it is no longer being
distributed as shareware, although I could download an older version
for a free 30-day evaluation.

I suspect that I could get IPROUTE to work for me, but it is *far* more
complex that I really want.  What I want is something smaller and
simpler that acts only as a PPP-ethernet transceiver.  No routing
functions at all.  Any more ideas?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:09:20 -0600
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> How about an editor?  If you only have a few files and want to
> cut them into a few pieces this shouldn't be too much a manual
> nuisanse.

Russ:

I can answer that one... because I've been there myself.  Usually, you
want this capability so you *can* open the file (usually a large one)
in an editor!

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:36:49 -0500
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Today I got a catalog from a company called "1-800-batteries" that sells all kinds
of mobile computing gadgets. I've never dealt with them, and prices seem kinda
high, but what caught my eye was a $129 USD 56k (k56flex/v.90) pocket modem

http://www.1800batteries.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/;display/item?prrfnbr=258574&prmenbr=1

or visit the manufacturer's site at http://www.3jtech.com/

I can't vouch for the vendor or the manufacturer, so caveat emptor.

-Peter

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your computer screen. Watching you. All the time. Every day.
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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:35:52 +1100
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Hello

I am using The built in world time on the 200LX, and also the geoclock
application.

Does antone know what the divverence between the longitude in these two
programs are?  I notice that all negative longitudes in world time have
to be entered in geoclock as positive, and all positive longitudes in
world time have to be entered in geoclock as negative!

If i thter the longitude into geoclock as it appears in workd clock,
the city shows up on the other side of the clobe!

I do not know much about geography, and wonder if this is a bug, or a
different interpretation of the rules.

TIA

David Eggins

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:51:28 -0800
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I have a 32Meg w double speed 200Lx bought as a christmas present for
myself.  I have noticed the following behavior and wanted to see if
other had noticed it or if it is a feature.

Imediately after I turn my machine, on it seems to run much faster then
it runs 30 seconds later.  It feels like it goes into a light sleep or
something.  There are two times that I notice it.

1.  When successfully finishing a game of freecell, which is way too
often now that I am addicted to it, the cards bounce across the screen.
If I turn the computer off and then on, the cards bounce much more
quickly.

2. I also notice it when I search info select.  The search slows down.
But if I turn off then on it searches way faster.

Any ideas?
Leland

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Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:39:52 -0500
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Jez,

I have been using AA lithiums for yrs and never had a problem.  As long as you
use them in a high voltage range all will be well.  They start at around 3.2v
as you said.  I may be a bit conservative but I always change them out at
about 2.65v.  Experience has tought me that online modem runs below 2.65v make
them dip quite a bit but later they recover some giving you a false sense of
security.  Also at 2.65v they are about 95% used up, so because of the sharper
drop off at the end of the cycle I don't risk it past there.  I know they are
more $$ that rechargebles, but life is simple with never having to worry about
recharging, etc.  Normally they last abuot 3 times longer than Alks, but you
will have to go through a few sets to know better for your setup and useage
pattern.  This could take quite a while. (G)     =Bob=

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DOH!


Thanks - I'm sure that's the problem.

Homer ...er, Brian.

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From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net>

>did you restore the cic100 line to use the pcmcia modem?
>

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:59:47 -0500
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Comments: To: Leland Hambley <leland@RICOCHET.NET>

Leland, I notice the same thing on my 8m/2x, but only when using batteries.
Using the AC adapter, the cards flash by as normal.  I make the assumption
that this is simply a matter of how much power the 200LX can pull from the
batteries during a 'processing-intensive' workout.  I'm an amateur at this
stuff, so maybe someone has a more technical explanation. I wouldn't worry
though.

Regards.........Steve

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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> Hi!
> >
> > To generate a plain text file, run pdftotext:
> >
> >   pdftotext file.pdf
> >
> But the problem is that this program will not run on the 200LX. It had
> been great to have a PDF converter/viewer running on the 200LX. Now some
> of you might say like a programmer doing commercial PDF programs told
> me: "it's not possible to do it on a 186 processor!". But I am 100% sure it
> would be possible- but maybe slow. Anything is possible on the 200LX and
> as I recall, some time ago it was a discussen on this list if it was
> possible or not to make 3D games on the 200LX. It must be since I
> have several old commercial 3D games which runs without a problem- such
> as Grand Prix, In The Eye Of The Beholder, Bob 1940 e.t.c.
>
> So instead of discussing if it can be done or not, I think that the
> relevant question is if there is someone with the knowledge that are
> interested to do such a program?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>

Well, maybe yes, maybe no. For me the relevant questions are how much
time it would take to produce the program, and how slow it would be once
it was up and running.

We earlier had a brief discussion in this thread of a 100 hour estimate.
In private discussion, I argued that this was a *very* substantial
underestimate of the task, if the goal was to produce something that
truly could handle _most_ PDF files. PDF subsumes PostScript, and it
is easy to see from either the size of the PostScript Red Book or from
the size of GhostScript source / image that handling PostScript is a
large (multi thousand hour?) task.

Adobe's Acrobat reader is a couple of meg. That, of course, is only the
.EXE file. Undoubtedly a meg or two of .DLLs also get called. Given
the limitations of addressing in pre 286 CPUs, I'd hate to guess how
much time and effort might have to be devoted to shoehorning these
huge piles of code into a 200. And, running the whole thing on a
7mhz machine probably wouldn't be very satisfying, nor would looking
at it on a CGA screen.

The problem with PDF is that its strength and its weakness are tied
to one another. The very richness that allows it to be an effective
format for communicating complex documents places considerable demand
on the computational resources necessary to support it.

I agree that someone *could* produce a PDF reader for a 200. It's just
that I don't think it would be a very satisfying `life's work'...

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:21:50 -0600
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>Imediately after I turn my machine, on it seems to run much faster then
>it runs 30 seconds later.  It feels like it goes into a light sleep or
>something.  There are two times that I notice it.

You are experiencing the light sleep mode.  If you hold down shift or plug
the palmtop into the AC adapter you will notice that it runs fast during
that time.  Your speed upgrade is working fine.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:19:03 -0500
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Does anyone use the combination of Radio Shack NiMH and charge-it? What
settings are you using?

thanks,
Gavin
_____
Gavin Hui                      "got to kick at the darkness
ghui@sympatico.ca               till it bleeds daylight"
Mississauga, ON                             -Bruce Cockburn
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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:24:22 -0800
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i purchased a bj80 but have been unsuccesful at getting the ir to work.
apparently it requires windows ir drivers

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>
>    I am trying to set myself up with mobile printing
> capabilities.Cheap.
> (hopefully).
>     I have acquired a Diconix 150 Plus. I do not have documentation
> for
> this unit and it appears that someone has "doctored" the dip pin
> selections.  The unit will print one page and then not clear, simply
> continuing to print that one page until I down power it to clear any
> memory registers.
> Can anyone point my toward a resource for documentation for this unit?
>    Failing this, what is the general opinion of the BJC-50 and BJC-80
> by
> Canon. Remanufactured units are available and within my budget, and
> are
> described as having IR capability.
> With the correct drivers can I use thes with my HP200LX?
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Robert,

>    I am trying to set myself up with mobile printing capabilities.Cheap.
> (hopefully).
>     I have acquired a Diconix 150 Plus. I do not have documentation for
> this unit and it appears that someone has "doctored" the dip pin
> selections.

With fresh ink cartridges, The Diconex 150 is a great portable printer!
This is the table From the 150 manual (I do not have a 150 PLUS).

DIP settings are:
İNote 1 means up, 0 means down¨
Switch      Function              0            1
------      --------           -------      -------
1           CR definition      CR only*     CD + LF
2           LF definition      CR + LF*     LF only
3           Perforation skip   no skip*     1" skip
4           Page Length        11"*         12"
5           Font selection     Draft*       Quality
6           Emulation          Epson*       IBM

İNote:  I use the IBM settings because the HP100/200LX has a built in
printer driver for the IBM Proprinter ... works great ... graphics and
all.¨


DIP Switch      Character Set
7   8   9
-----------------------------
0   0   0       USA *
1   1   0       England
1   0   1       Sweden
0   1   1       Italy
1   0   0       France
0   1   0       Germany
0   0   1       Denmark
1   1   1       Spain
Switch 10 is not used

* indicates factory default setting

> The unit will print one page and then not clear, simply
> continuing to print that one page until I down power it to clear any
> memory registers.
>
While I do not fully understand the problem you report, and
assuming your software is not trying to print multiple copies, I can
offer only some general info:

When printing stops in the middle of a page, it can be that it has no =
more to
print.  If the DX150 were then to receive a Form Feed command (FF), it =
would
advance to the top of the next sheet and be ready for a new print job.
Some word processing software sends a FF (form feed command; ESC C; or
CHR$(12); or Ctrl L) at the end of printing.  Some do not.  Ex: PE will
not, Memo does.

If you want to do your own FF, then push the ONLINE button once (go off
line), then press the FORM FEED button).  These key and light combinations=

should be on an informative decal on the bottom of the printer with the
serial number.

Hope this helps a little,

        Bob Pigford

BTW - If your Diconex 150 is the SERIAL ONLY version, there is another
DIP switch inside the machine near the serial connector for setting
communications parameters if needed.  It's settings are:

DIP settings are:
Baud    Stop     Switch
Rate    Bits    #1     #2      #3
9600    1       0       0       0
4800    1       0       0       1
2400    1       0       1       0
1200    1       0       1       1
600     1       1       0       0
300     1       1       0       1
300     2       1       1       0
110     2       1       1       1

Data Bits       Switch #4
7                   0
8                   1

Parity          Switch #5 Switch #6
No parity           0       0
Even Parity         0       1
Odd Parity          1       0
Not applicable      1       1

Data Protocol   Switch #7 Switch #8
RDY/BSY             0       0
XON/XOFF            0       1
ETX/ACK             1       0

Handshake Disable   Switch #9 Switch #10 Switch #11
Carrier Detect (CD)    1         -           -
Clear to Send (CTS)    -         1           -
Data Set Ready (DSR)   -         -           1

Note: 1 is in the up position


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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:36:43 -0500
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Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:25:30 -0500 (EST)

01h06m05s ago ...
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Gavin Hui wrote:

> Does anyone use the combination of Radio Shack NiMH and charge-it? What
> settings are you using?

Well...  Let's see.  I have a pair of the RS NiMH cells, but haven't
used them in a while.  I get better use from the RS HiCap NiCads, even
though they're only rated at 850 mAHr vs 1200 mAHr for the NiMH.

You could try these Charge-It settings:

2450 vmin 2950 vmax 840 tmax 240 stall 120 slo

You can leave out the vmin and vmax settings and use the defaults with
no problem.  You may need to play around with the tmax and stall
settings.  Stall is usually the most important parameter.

HTH

-Peniel
(Charge-It author)  8-)
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A look at the documentation of adbio.exe finds the following
information:

> FILE FORMAT:
>
> The CDF file that is generated with the -c option in ADBDUMP and needed
> as input for the ADBLOAD program is described in the following. It is
> rather idiosyncratic. The number of fields in a record is not fixed.
>
> The first four fields are the same for all records:
>
>    START DATE   "25.4.1994"
>                  if -d option is used, the format may be different
>    DESCRIPTION  "This is an appointment"
>    LOCATION     "Here"
>                 In TODO items it is always ""
>    STATE        135
>                 Set bits within this number have the following meaning:
>                 Bit 0: alarm is set
>                 Bit 1: display in monthly view (in TODO: checked off)
>                 Bit 2: display in weekly view (in TODO: carry over)
>                 Bit 3: ???
>                 Bit 4: it is a TODO item
>                 Bit 5: it is an EVENT item
>                 Bit 6: it is a Stub for a repeating completed TODO
>                 BIT 7: it is an APPOINTMENT item
>
> The following fields depend on STATE. If bit 7 is set (APPOINTMENT):
>
>    START TIME   "14:15"
>                 24-hour format is used
>    END TIME     "15:30"
>                 24-hour format is used
>    DURATION     0
>                 This is the number of days the appointment lasts
>    LEAD         5
>                 The number of minutes for the alarm lead time
>
> If bit 5 is set (EVENT):
>
>    DURATION     0
>                 This is the number of days the event lasts
>
> If bit 4 is set (TODO):
>
>    PRIORITY     "1a"
>                 Always two characters long
>    DURATION     0
>                 Number of days till the TODO is due minus one
>                 (or zero if no due date is set)
>
> The next field is in common for all records (APPOINTMENT, EVENT and TODO):
>
>    NOTE         "This is a note\r\nThis is the second line of the note"
>                 Line breaks are replaced by \r\n, double quotes by \"
>                 and the backslash by \\.
>
> If it is not a repeating item, this is the end of the record. If it is
> repeating item we are still at the beginning...:
>
>    REPEAT STATE 16
>                 Set bits within this number have the following meaning:
>                 Bit 0: not repeated (this should not occur)
>                 Bit 1: daily repeated
>                 Bit 2: weekly repeated
>                 Bit 3: monthly repeated
>                 Bit 4: yearly repeated
>                 Bit 5: customized repeated
>    FREQUENCY    1
>    DAYS         31
>    MONTH        2048
>    START YEAR   94
>    START MONTH  0
>    START DAY    0
>    END YEAR     94
>    END MONTH    11
>    END DAY      30
>    NUMDELETED   0
>
> The interpretation of the above values seems to be somewhat different
> for different repeat modes. The last value indicates how many deleted
> items there are between the start date and the end date. If the value
> is 0, this is the last field within the record. If it is set to n, then
> there follow n of the following field quadruples:
>
>    DELYEAR      94
>    DELMONTH     2
>    DELDAY       5
>    DELFLAGS     0
>
> Don't ask me what these flags mean, but they are there.

(Sorry for dumping the whole section, but I think it will tell more of
where to find the data you need.)
I think it uses a number format to identify the end-repeat date.  If you
can use an algorithm to figure this field out, may be you can do an
automatic warning for yourself.

Hope this helps.

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pdftotext.c needs to be recompiled (possibly ported) because the
executable for dos was compiled with djgpp (gcc for dos) and that
only produces 32-bit executables (there was a 16-bit port of the
compiler started, but delorie gave up and left the project for
anyone else who might want it).

if someone were to spend some time getting it to compile with a
16-bit capable compiler, then pdftotext would work on the LXs.

--francois


On Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 02:28:35PM +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> Hi!
> >
> > To generate a plain text file, run pdftotext:
> >
> >   pdftotext file.pdf
> >
> But the problem is that this program will not run on the 200LX. It had
> been great to have a PDF converter/viewer running on the 200LX. Now some
> of you might say like a programmer doing commercial PDF programs told
> me: "it's not possible to do it on a 186 processor!". But I am 100% sure it
> would be possible- but maybe slow. Anything is possible on the 200LX and
> as I recall, some time ago it was a discussen on this list if it was
> possible or not to make 3D games on the 200LX. It must be since I
> have several old commercial 3D games which runs without a problem- such
> as Grand Prix, In The Eye Of The Beholder, Bob 1940 e.t.c.
>
> So instead of discussing if it can be done or not, I think that the
> relevant question is if there is someone with the knowledge that are
> interested to do such a program?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:49:31 GMT
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Talking of end of life of lithium batteries i have a pair in my palmtop
that are at that state now. When I turn the palmtop on the voltage
reads 2.43 V but rises to 2.68/2.7 within a minute. They have just
dropped to 2.65 V as I type this - oops back to 2.68 V - wonder what
caused the temporary drop?

Any way these batteries are close to the end and I will be changing
them as soon as I (back to 2.65V) finish typing this and certainly
before sending it!.

The fact that I am typing this indicates my comfort level with amount
of battery charge (plus I have good recent backups<G>). Basically it is
in agreement with Bob Newins suggestion - Fred do you really wait for
2.43 V or do you mean transients that dip to 2.43V like I indicated
above?

Finally I normally use a pair of Mack's rechargables but sometimes it
is convenient to put a pair of lithiums in (when travelling for
example).

GaryS

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:58:06 -0600
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The only way I have found was to assign a macro to Fn-F2 and use that key instead.  The macro is defined as:  {Menu}ET{Shift+Tab}

I too would like to know of a better way - if one exists.

Mike Goggin

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From:   Jeff Malka İSMTP:malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM¨

Is there a way to have the entry screen start at the date field?  I have
not found it if there is one

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:04:53 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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I just noticed that I can use my 2400bps Apex 6Meg combocard with WWW/LX.
I have tried it before but I never gotten it to work with a 2400
connection. And if I recall correctly there were others with me that
whanted this capability.
So today I gave it a try after all the WWW/LX uppgrades that has been =
lately.

Its slow with 2400 but not THAT slow. Its enough if Youre not in a
hurry.
Now I dont have to carry my Megahertz 14.4k with me all the time.

      /tomas moberg
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FYI and if You have any suggestions.
Is there any other than MS that have a client that talks to a NT4
server?

I have tried:
Lanman 2.2c
MS Network Client V3.0
MS Network Connection

They all work on a XT. But NOT the TCP/IP part.
The TCPTSR.EXE does not run on a pre 286.
The TCP/IP tsr is version 1.0A. So I doubt that there is any previous
version that does run on a XT.

:-<

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:34:37 -0000
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Avi wrote:
>I use a batch file to create a variable in the environment
>that corresponds to a date so todays's variable shows:
>"990211".

Any chance you could post the relevant part of your batch file, I was
planning on doing something like this but could not think of how to create
the date based environment variable.

Thanks

Laurence Harvey

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Both are normal behavior.  Press  alt or fn to see same behavior.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:59:31 -0000
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Hello,

I'm new to the list so please forgive me if I cover old ground.

I have a vanilla HP200LX and I've just downloaded Goin Postal 2.24 from
http://gp.hplx.net
My UK ISP is tesco.net and I seem to be having a few problems getting
connected.

I've input all the "locale" and "mailhosts" info that I think is required.
On connecting a message flashes up that I cannot read, followed by
"Negotiating PPP Connection"
After 20-30secs I get "PPP link is down, driver not installed", followed by
a termination sequence leaving me back at the status page.

I've tried reinstalling the software, and tried running the debug version
but I have to admit the resultant ppp.log file shed no light to me .
Has anyone any experience of this software, esp in the UK as I suspect it
could be a problem with my ISP .

If you can give me any help I would much appreciate it....

Neil Somers
home: neil.somers@tesco.net
work: neil.somers@sadie.com

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:08:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Rick Kozak <rick@colloquist.on.ca>
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I'm the 100 hour guy :-) I looked at the source for this DOS program and its
about 10,000 lines of code. The executable, however, can get pretty big just
because there's a 320K Japanese font translation file that gets embedded in
the .exe.

Anyway.... I might take a crack at recompiling with MSVC++1.52 to get a
16bit executable. Anybody converted gcc C++ to MSVC C++ before???

rick

>We earlier had a brief discussion in this thread of a 100 hour estimate.
>In private discussion, I argued that this was a *very* substantial
>underestimate of the task, if the goal was to produce something that
>truly could handle _most_ PDF files. PDF subsumes PostScript, and it
>is easy to see from either the size of the PostScript Red Book or from
>the size of GhostScript source / image that handling PostScript is a
>large (multi thousand hour?) task.
>

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I've been studying the LXBatch language.  I would like to use it to
drop to DOS and send formatting commands to my printer prior to
returning to PE and printing.  I have enough programming skill to handle
the rest, but using LXBatch, how do I place an ESC (ASCII 27) character
in a text string variable?

Thanks in advance.

        Bob Pigford

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|  The most powerful computer in my world is THE ONE I USE;   |
|  the HP200LX.  Productivity with fun along the way!         |
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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:52:41 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Avi wrote:
> >I use a batch file to create a variable in the environment
> >that corresponds to a date so todays's variable shows:
> >"990211".
> Any chance you could post the relevant part of your batch file, I was

I do this on my desktop which is booted at least every day, I
use the following bit of Rexx called my Autoexec.bat to do it...

  rexx.exe rxit.rex call value 'DATES', date('S'),'ENVIRONMENT'

This also requires RXIT.REX which is...

  /**/interpret arg(1)


And all of this requires Rexx; I use Personal Rexx.  You can
download a demo version at:  http://www.quercus-sys.com

And last let me say I DON'T do this on my LX because I don't
boot everyday, however the same bit of code could be called from
any BAT file if needed.

Are there any other Rexx users out there?

cheers... Russ

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> in agreement with Bob Newins suggestion - Fred do you really wait for
> 2.43 V or do you mean transients that dip to 2.43V like I indicated
> above?

I wait for the low battery warning - simple in its beeping/messaging
elegance!!  Seriously, I do allow the hp to warn me.  And have for
years.   So far no data loss.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:42:02 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Hebrew on the Hp200Lx
Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net

sponsor@ftel.net writes:
> Could you kindly post how to set up the palmtop to make it
> work in Hebrew? Ketbez? Anything else? TIA.

You activate Hebrew  on the palmtop using keybez (as appears int the manual)
using the line:

keybez he

in autoexec.bat. The Hebrew fonts and definitions are in the standard
keybez.kit file found in d:\bin (you can edit the file after it has been
opened by keybez to remove the other languages.) I don't remember all the
details as it has been years since I set it up but the details are in the
manual and in the file as well.

All that is left to do is to press the CTRL key every time you want Hebrew in
a DOS app or system manager app. QTEXT activates Hebrew automatically using
F10 and shift-F10.

Some limitations:
1. keybez conflicts with buddy. DONT use them together.
2. You shouldnt use Hebrew as the primary index in a database eg the name in
   the phone book app. It really messes with sorting and the quick search. I
   DO use Hebrew in addresses and in notes.
3. You might notice that there are no Hebrew letters on the keyboard :).
   I have found the best solution is 2.5mm white rub-on Hebrew letters which
   fit nicely to the right of the relevant key. You have to cut out each letter
   individually, which is a really long tough task, (I have done it 3 times in
   the last year) but ends up looking not bad.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:32:44 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> I am using The built in world time on the 200LX, and also the geoclock
> application.
>
> Does antone know what the divverence between the longitude in these two
> programs are?  I notice that all negative longitudes in world time have
> to be entered in geoclock as positive, and all positive longitudes in
> world time have to be entered in geoclock as negative!
>
> If i thter the longitude into geoclock as it appears in workd clock,
> the city shows up on the other side of the clobe!
>
> I do not know much about geography, and wonder if this is a bug, or a
> different interpretation of the rules.
>

It's a "bug" in World Time on the 200LX. North and East suppose to be
positive, while South and West should be negative.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 04:13:45 -0600
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Hi.
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:
> You are experiencing the light sleep mode.  If you hold down shift or plug
> the palmtop into the AC adapter you will notice that it runs fast during
> that time.  Your speed upgrade is working fine.
>

I never looked at it as a plus (because of the hit on battery life), but
disabling light sleep (Buddy will do this, as well as LXSTAT) could be
considered another form of speed upgrade. It would be useful only if the
applications used most frequently were significantly faster if light sleep
was disabled.  My own experience with disabled light sleep (a Simple Tech
flash card which disabled light sleep against my will) indicated that the
slow programs I use were still slow, and the speeded up things (like the
Freecell flying cards) were not of sufficient benefit to justify a 50%
drop in battery life.  Perhaps all of the "speed freaks" should do a test
run of disabling fast sleep to see if it helps them any.

Incidentally, the original poster noted that searches in Info Select were
faster.  I have never waited for IS; it is so fast for me.  Perhaps he is
waiting for the little squares appear in the search display.  It is NOT
necessary for these to come up before you can search.  Just start typing.
Also, you can hit RETURN when you feel you have typed in enough characters
to get your match.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:21:27 -0500
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              Hans Peter Staber <HPStaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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<I know that usually people compain their palmtop's hinge is
not tight enough. I have the opposite problem. It is so
tight that a smal line of separation (crack) begins to
appear on the back cover, right above the right side of the
hinge.

So how does one loosen this thingy up?>

Apart from the greasy recommendations here is what I did once
in order to tighten the hinge :

There are four rubber shoes on the back of palmi. Peel them
out with a needle. Underneath you'll find screws which hold
the case together. Loosen them and put rubber shoes back in
place.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:07:07 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Free speed upgrade" and it battery cost
Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.4.02.9902140325150.17243-100000@feynman.mayo.edu>

->I never looked at it as a plus (because of the hit on battery life),
->but disabling light sleep (Buddy will do this, as well as LXSTAT) could
->be considered another form of speed upgrade.

Does anyone know what the loss of battery life is with a double speed
upgrade?

I have a double speed 32 MB 200LX in which I use Mack's rechargeable
lithium batteries.  I have not measured it recently but it looks as if I
have to recharge them daily - maybe 1-2 hours of continued use.  Seems
rather low.  Anyone know what it should be?

Jeff


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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:07:45 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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I use the bjc80. It's a nice printer, but the IR port is not
compatible. You'd have to use a cable...

Mike...


>    Failing this, what is the general opinion of the BJC-50 and BJC-80 =
by
> Canon. Remanufactured units are available and within my budget, and are
> described as having IR capability.
> With the correct drivers can I use thes with my HP200LX?
>                                                    TIA,Bob Perron
>

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Subject:      Re: Hebrew on the Hp200Lx
In-Reply-To:  <199901131742.PNR00200@netmedia.net.il>

->1. keybez conflicts with buddy. DONT use them together.

It would seem that the obvious way to use keybez would be to put it in a
session under Software Carousel where Buddy is not loaded.  I am planning
to do just that as soon as I get the time <g> but it should work UNLESS
you know of any conflicts between keybez and SC!!!

Thanks for the tip.

Jeff


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Subject:      Re: Hebrew on the Hp200Lx  -  2
In-Reply-To:  <199901131742.PNR00200@netmedia.net.il>

->Since Buddy conflicts with kezbez,
->it would seem that the obvious way to use keybez would be to put it in
->a session under Software Carousel where Buddy is not loaded.  I am
->planning to do just that as soon as I get the time <g> but it should
->work UNLESS you know of any conflicts between keybez and SC!!!

I tried it and keybez seems to work fine in a separate "non-buddy" session
of SC.

Now I need to find out how to silence the error beeps in qtext when I no
longer have Buddy to do it.  There does not seem to be a built way to do
it within qtext that I can find.  (Manual is in hebrew!).

Jeff


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I had (until very very recently) a 95 LX with the Hebrew characters in blue above
the appropriate keys.  I couldn't figure out how to activate it though.  Last week
while in Phoenix it was stolen.  If anybody sees a HP95 LX with a hebrew keyboard
in a Phoenix pawn shop let me know, I'd like my data back.

David Becher wrote:

> sponsor@ftel.net writes:
> > Could you kindly post how to set up the palmtop to make it
> > work in Hebrew? Ketbez? Anything else? TIA.
>
> You activate Hebrew  on the palmtop using keybez (as appears int the manual)
> using the line:
>
> keybez he
>
> in autoexec.bat. The Hebrew fonts and definitions are in the standard
> keybez.kit file found in d:\bin (you can edit the file after it has been
> opened by keybez to remove the other languages.) I don't remember all the
> details as it has been years since I set it up but the details are in the
> manual and in the file as well.
>
> All that is left to do is to press the CTRL key every time you want Hebrew in
> a DOS app or system manager app. QTEXT activates Hebrew automatically using
> F10 and shift-F10.
>
> Some limitations:
> 1. keybez conflicts with buddy. DONT use them together.
> 2. You shouldnt use Hebrew as the primary index in a database eg the name in
>    the phone book app. It really messes with sorting and the quick search. I
>    DO use Hebrew in addresses and in notes.
> 3. You might notice that there are no Hebrew letters on the keyboard :).
>    I have found the best solution is 2.5mm white rub-on Hebrew letters which
>    fit nicely to the right of the relevant key. You have to cut out each letter
>    individually, which is a really long tough task, (I have done it 3 times in
>    the last year) but ends up looking not bad.
>
> If you need any more help just ask!
>
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Hi all,

I've got an old 486 IBM-PC (PS/2-E, 9533), which has about the size
of a notebook - very compact. It also has 4 PCMCIA slots,
floppy-Disk, 120MB HDD, serial and parallel ports.

It has BIOS in flash-ROM, which can be setup with a setup diskette -
but there is no selection to boot without keyboard.

I'm planning to take it as a mobile add-on to my HP 200LX for saving
and exchanging data (dig images etc).

I can use 'ctty COM1:' as soon as the PC has bootet to connect to the
200LX  such that the 200LX is used as display and keyboard for the
PC. I would like to take the PC with me but without monitor and even
without the keyboard!

'No keyboard connected' is the problem because during POST the PC
checks for the keyboard and if it's not connected, the boot process
is holded and an error-msg is displayed (and it beeps of course).

Is there a way to build or buy a 'keyboard connector, which fools the
PC during POST?

Many thanks in advance.

  Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:56:58 -0500
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From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>


>Are there any other Rexx users out there?


I use ARexx on my Amiga, probably more than I realize (wrote *lots* of
little utilities years back and I use a mix of them and other stuff).

Also, use BRexx on the palmtop all the time.  I never have gotten the 2.0
version to work, but 1.3 works great on the palmtop (once compiled for 186
and FPU).

If you're interested, I can send the EXE and you can get the full archive
from the BRexx webpage (which I'll find if you're interested.. :)

--
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Hi,

I'd like to be able to try out my Hayes Optima PC-Card modem
in my 200LX, but am a little reluctant to do so until I know
for sure that it's not going to reduce my palmtop to a
smouldering wreck!

It's an Optima 56K Global (I know I'm not going to get
56kbits/s, but it'll be faster than my present 9600!), and
the power consumption is, according to Hayes' web site, 131mA
at 5VDC (normal), 6mA at 5VDC (sleep). Is this OK, risky, or
liable to melt some circuitry? Any advice gratefully
accepted!

 -Mike

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:51:12 -0800
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On Feb 12th  Avi Meshar wrote:

> This is strange timing. I have received my Ricochet SX
> yesterday and have been playing with it. I got it because
> many customers are looking for it, and I happen to live in
> side a covered area...

SX vs. SE and original models - I went out to buy an original model
Ricochet modem because of the recent price slash and because Metricom's
web site claims slightly better battery life for the original than the
SE. The various retailers I talked to (while trying to find a place
that still had original models in stock) said that didn't match their
experience - the found the SE to have much better battery life than the
original. I knew I did not want the SX because Metricom claims only a
fraction of the battery life of the other two for the SX, and describes
it as less durable as well.

Upon examination, I found the original to be slightly thicker,
significanty longer and significantly heavier than the 200LX (its
battery pack alone is as big as an old pager). The SX is slightly wider
and/or slightly longer (I wasn't paying close attention) than the 200LX,
and did not lie flat against it due to a connector bulge at on end. The
SE seemed like the best fit with the 200LX with its long battery life
and small size (about he same thickness and about half as long and a
little more than half as wide as the 200LX), and it has an informative
LCD display the others lack.

If they hadn't dropped the original from $300 to $150, it would be no
contest (SE & Sx are both $350), but even at more than twice the price
I'll choose the SE over the original.

>
> So far you have helped A LOT!!! Thank _you_!
>

Glad I could be of assistance. Let me know if there's anything else I
can break for you. <G>

 Sharon Rose
 sharon_rose@irishrose.com

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> This showed that any attempt to talk to the DNS server failed.  I could =
ping
> it (I could even Telnet to it by address) but DNS queries failed.  So =
my
> advice for step 1 is to try and identify the default gateway for have =
been
> set up by the Ricochet service with - I guess this is the nearest point =
to
> you on the net, like the dial-in server.  If you can ping that then you =
*do*
> have a connection of some kind.

> Then try to ping the DNS by IP address (you can always use your W95 box =
to
> work these addresses out).  If that works then try an NSLOOKUP package,
> there are all sorts of debug hooks in some.

I tried loading a web page by its IP address and failed. I would have
tried to ping the DNS, but discovered that I had failed to download
PING/LX along with WWW/LX (oops!), so I cannot report either success or
failure on that.

The 200LX is my only computer right now, and I'm not sure what NSLOOKUP
is (Unix?). Do you know a way I can identify the default gateway with
what I've got on hand, namely a 200LX, WWW/LX, NetTamer and various
downloaded freeware?

 TIA,

 Sharon Rose
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Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:46:49 -0500 (EST)

17m50s ago ...
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> It's an Optima 56K Global (I know I'm not going to get
> 56kbits/s, but it'll be faster than my present 9600!), and
> the power consumption is, according to Hayes' web site, 131mA
> at 5VDC (normal), 6mA at 5VDC (sleep).

AFAIK the safe limit for the PC card slot is 150mA, so it should be
OK...

HTH

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:44:16 +0100
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Is there any software for the HPLX that allows Internet access with
Nokia 6110's infrared port? The software Nokia sales only works under
Windows, and the mobile phone doesn't respond to any AT command.

ADalipu

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Could anybody with a CASIO QV300 or better camera please
contact me via private email? I would like to know, if my
CAM2JPG program included in LXPIC.ZIP still works with these
new high resolution CASIO cameras.

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Hi Avi and all,

> NiCDs are similar in voltage, a bit higher. Generally NiCDs
> can hold a max of about 850mAh in the AA format, and the
> NiMH hold about 1100mAh in the same format, i.e. a little
> better energy density.

I've got NiMHs with 1500mAh in my 200LX and they're really
great!
I've had about six sessions with WWW/LX downloading
all your mail from HPLX-L and from comp.sys.palmtops
with a 14.4 PCMCIA modem (every session about 5-10 minutes),
and I've worked with my PIM programs about
4 hours all together - and the NiMHs are still
2.47 V!

> from NiMH than NiCD, but the NiCDs may be less expensive.

I pay for one AA NiMH 4.90 DM (~ 3 US$)



GTX
daniel

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Hi

> I have a 32Meg w double speed 200Lx bought as a christmas present for
> myself.  I have noticed the following behavior and wanted to see if

very nice present! I did the same last year!


> Imediately after I turn my machine, on it seems to run much faster then
> it runs 30 seconds later.  It feels like it goes into a light sleep or
> something.  There are two times that I notice it.

Yes, it's light sleep.
 There is a utility called 'setit' on S.U.P.E.R. which enables you to
switch the light sleep off. command: >setit -lf< I think,
But don't forget to enable light sleep again with >setit -lo<!
If you don't, the LX doesn't turn off itself when not in use!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:26:29 +10
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hi,
You have to look for an option like
"stop on error" ant set it with NO.
this is the way to do it with a desktop.

If you are using "remkey" (remote key)
you will be able to use the desktop/laptop keyboard as
a LX keyboard.
regards
Al

> Hi all,
>
> I've got an old 486 IBM-PC (PS/2-E, 9533), which has about the size
> of a notebook - very compact. It also has 4 PCMCIA slots,
> floppy-Disk, 120MB HDD, serial and parallel ports.
>
> It has BIOS in flash-ROM, which can be setup with a setup diskette -
> but there is no selection to boot without keyboard.
>
> I'm planning to take it as a mobile add-on to my HP 200LX for saving
> and exchanging data (dig images etc).
>
> I can use 'ctty COM1:' as soon as the PC has bootet to connect to the
> 200LX  such that the 200LX is used as display and keyboard for the
> PC. I would like to take the PC with me but without monitor and even
> without the keyboard!
>
> 'No keyboard connected' is the problem because during POST the PC
> checks for the keyboard and if it's not connected, the boot process
> is holded and an error-msg is displayed (and it beeps of course).
>
> Is there a way to build or buy a 'keyboard connector, which fools the
> PC during POST?
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
>   Hermann
>
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>


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:24:15 -8
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...snip...
> The overall
> response times (screen refresh, searching etc.) was about 3 to 4 times
> SLOWER than on my double speed 6MHz HP 200LX. It took some time to get the
> DOS emulator running, so to help others perhaps wanting to try out the same
> on other WIN-CE machines I attach a brief description of how-to-do.
>

I have a 360 LX that I use for Power Point presentations on the road
(which means taking 2 machines with me). I have a need to use a
backlit machine for Ham Radio Packet use periodically, so I needed to
use the 360 instead of the 200. Before I found the XTCE DOS emulator
I used the internal comm program, but I lost many of the features of
a "real" packet program.

I loaded a registered version of XTCE (registration is needed to have
the serial port active) and have been using it for packet for about a
month now. I agree with the speed problem - there is a noticable
delay from a key press to screen input - but for this purpose it
works great.

I agree that while XTCE will allow DOS to run on the CE
machine, it is no substitute for my double speed 200! But for this
specific purpose it saves battery power...

Also, since the Dump Disk program makes a disk image of the boot
floppy, you might as well make a boot disk from your original DOS
diskettes with ALL the DOS utilities on it. The image is 1.44 MB
whether the utilities are there or not!




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why off line?????
I'm interested to know too,
and lxpic is a LX software, so
I don't think it's off topic.
I had a QV10,
and I'm looking for a new one,
but I prefere to be able to connect it to the LX.

> Could anybody with a CASIO QV300 or better camera please
> contact me via private email? I would like to know, if my
> CAM2JPG program included in LXPIC.ZIP still works with these
> new high resolution CASIO cameras.
>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:00:23 +1030
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Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> writes:
> It's an Optima 56K Global (I know I'm not going to get
> 56kbits/s, but it'll be faster than my present 9600!), and
> the power consumption is, according to Hayes' web site, 131mA
> at 5VDC (normal), 6mA at 5VDC (sleep). Is this OK, risky, or
> liable to melt some circuitry? Any advice gratefully
> accepted!

Should be fine.  Let us know how it goes (there's a few of us looking
for a 56K modem that works in the HP).

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Date:         Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:02:47 -0800
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Hi everyone.  Just dropping a note to let everyone know
that I've made my web page more palmtop friendly.  There
is now a non-frame/non-table version.  This makes it a
little easier for those of you trying to get the .PDF
version of the 200LX manual from there with a 200LX. :)

For anyone that missed it.  The url is...

http://netcom.com/~kaervek/

Brian S
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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:27:54 +1100
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Hi Brian

How did you get it to PDF format?  Any chance of a TXT or HTML version from
Source?  My Txt version translated from pdf is missing the tables etc

My reason is it fits on the LX with smaller file size.

TIA

Russell

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I have a double speed 64mb upgraded 200LX with a 220mb flash card. I use Radio
Shack 23-525 1200mAh Nickel Metal Hydride Rechargeable batteries. I live off
my 200LX, using it several hours a day. These batteries easily last me 3-4
days on a full charge without recharging!

Nowadays, I rarely put these batteries to the test since it is simply a matter
of getting in the habit of using good charging strategies - no different than
having good backup strategies. I always keep my palmtop in recharge mode and
plug it into the AC every night before going to bed. I also never use a modem
card or do intensive power draining system backups without having it on the
charger - my macros automatically runs daily backups at 3am. I now have 2 AC
rechargers - one for my home and one for my office...I use them like docking
stations on my desktops. Finally, on long business trips in the car, I keep
the 200LX hooked up to my lighter recharger attachment that I purchased for
dirt cheap from Thaddeus (I highly recommend having this accessory). If you
get in the habit of following a similar routine and use good NI-MH
Rechargeables, you will quickly find that battery life is never an issue
again. It's just not worth risking running out of battery power and draining
your emergency backup battery.

Keep in mind, if your batteries ever die in the middle of doing a backup of
important files such as large data bases, there is a strong chance that this
will cause irreversible corruption of those files. So plan ahead. If you have
good recharging strategies in place, you will have no excuse for avoiding high
capacity flash cards, modem cards and double speed upgrades due to power
consumption issues. You are much better off taking advantage of every bell &
whistle you can benefit from on the palmtop for optimal utilization, and
simply forming good daily recharging and backup strategies.

Gary M. Silverman
Flash In-Hand Unlimited

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:00:45 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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I found FreeCell game 10209 to be a bit more difficult than
average.  It's been a while since I found a really hard game.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:30:50 GMT
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The manual of the RS meter I have has brief mention of the
communication protocols required to talk to it. A few years ago (yes
really) I wrote a brief Quick Basic routine based on information in
the manual to see if this would work (it did) but have not done
anything further since as I have had too little time. It is very
simple:

 OPEN "COM1: 1200, N, 7, 2, RS, CS, DS, CD" FOR RANDOM AS #2
 OPEN "test.dat" FOR OUTPUT AS #3
 A$ =3D "D"
 FOR i =3D 1 TO 10
 PRINT #2, A$
 IN$ =3D INPUT$(14, #2)
 PRINT #3, TIME$, IN$
 NEXT i
 CLOSE #2
 CLOSE #3
 END

Note that the 1200 baud connection limits the number of samples per
second. I suspect there are more commands available to talk to the
meter but the "D" (send data) command is the only one documented.

GaryS

> I recently acquired a Radio Shack digital multi-meter (Cat. No. 22-168A)
> which has a RS-232 interface built into the meter.  The software
> accompanying it specifies use of a VGA monitor which seemingly rules =
out
> using it on my 200LX.  Is there any way around this ?  Does anyone know =
of
> other software to perform the same task?  What I'm really looking for =
is an
> interface that will allow using my 200LX to measure and record both =
phases
> of a single phase supply.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:15:32 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Does anyone know what the loss of battery life is with a double speed
> upgrade?
>
> I have a double speed 32 MB 200LX in which I use Mack's rechargeable
> lithium batteries.  I have not measured it recently but it looks as if =
I
> have to recharge them daily - maybe 1-2 hours of continued use.  Seems
> rather low.  Anyone know what it should be?

Sounds very low! I think that a double speed upgrade takes of about 25%
of your battery time. I use a 64MB & Double Speed upgrade from Mack, and
with a 220MB SanDisk card inserted all the time. I get up to 20 hours of
usage from 2 ordinary alkaline batteries.

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:19:27 -0600
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If you find the two keystrokes needed to execute your macro, easier than
the two keys of <shift+tab>, then might I suggest adding <Fn+DATE> to
the macro, allowing the insertion of the current date.

Phil

>
>The only way I have found was to assign a macro to Fn-F2 and use that key
>instead.  The macro is defined as:  {Menu}ET{Shift+Tab}
>
>I too would like to know of a better way - if one exists.
>
>Mike Goggin
>
>-----snip of Original Message-----
>From:   Jeff Malka İSMTP:malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM¨
>
>Is there a way to have the entry screen start at the date field?  I have
>not found it if there is one
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:17:36 -0800
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              "Erling, Marshall N" <Marshall.Erling@PSS.BOEING.COM>
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Just an FYI...
I can access websites, telnet, ftp, etc with NO problem using NetTamer and the 200LX
Perhaps there is something to be learned by observing how NetTamer works.
Configuring NetTamer was a piece of cake.  No proxies, nothing tricky.

A. Meshar wrote:
>I have spent lots of time on it in last two days. So far we
>have learned a lot, but it is not working yet. Andreas
>(whom I called in Switzerland) and I discussed this. He
>thinks that perhaps what is in the way is a proxy server on
>the Ricochet side. Anyone knows anything about that? He
>seems to think that Win95 sets this up automatically, I
>just don't know.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:30:47 +0800
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Hi There!

I am looking for the program called Palmtop Circuit for design of analog
electronic circuits. Anyone knows where to get it and if you have a
copy- is it good?

Looking forward to a reply.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:46:49 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Is there anyway to setup any of the various networking programs,
WWW/LX and/or WATTCP/LXTCP  to work on a network through a proxy?

Thanks,

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:38:26 -0500
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> The A: drive and B: drive are part of the operating system.
> You see you already have C: drive built in, so B: drive
> comes in automatically, even though there is nothing
> there...

Or more properly, DOS sees the palmtop as being a PC/XT with one diskette
drive (the PCMCIA slot). When DOS finds itself running on a single-diskette
machine, it automatically ASSIGNs b: to a:.

This enables you to, for example, copy files from one diskette/flashcard to
another by swapping diskettes/flashcards at the familiar "Insert disk for
drive b: and press any key when ready" prompt.

Just a little DOS trivia to spice up your day :-)

Bruce in Toronto

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On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Bruce Martin wrote:

> Or more properly, DOS sees the palmtop as being a PC/XT with one
> diskette drive (the PCMCIA slot). When DOS finds itself running on a
> single-diskette machine, it automatically ASSIGNs b: to a:.
>
> This enables you to, for example, copy files from one
> diskette/flashcard to another by swapping diskettes/flashcards at the
> familiar "Insert disk for drive b: and press any key when ready"
> prompt.

Interestingly, the SDK states that drive B: is reserved for a second
partition on a flash card... but nobody has gotten this to work in the
palmtop yet.  It might work for a second PC Card socket, if somebody cared
to add one.  :)

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:11:27 -0800
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              M Cordrey <mcordrey@PERL.SDSU.EDU>
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I recently saw on the list that someone had a list of keyboard scan codes
for the 200lx.  I would greatly appreciate having that sent off list. I
have been using different utilities to find the codes but it would be nice
to have as a reference. Thanks  -MC

-
Michelle Cordrey                         <mcordrey@perl.sdsu.edu>

Pacific Estuarine Research Laboratory


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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:26:19 -0700
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I have had my hp95lx for a couple of weeks. I bought it to use while mobile
for tracking sateiites. I loaded the tracking program (using KERMIT) and it
works fine with the internal (AA) batteries or with the AC adaptor. But when
i took it for a mobile test a few days ago, after pressing F4 it run fine
for a few minutes then the screen went blank, i could not turn it OFF but
could see it was still ON. I disconnected all the batteries and it reset to
factory defaults. Got home loaded the program again  and it worked fine.
Left it for 24hrs. tried to run it again this morning and got a message:
FATAL: Internal Stack Failure
press Enter to reboot.
I tried Enter and it had locked up, so had to remove all the batteries again.
What does the Message mean, and am i doing something wrong. Any help will be
appreciated. Scott

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:38:55 -0600
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Me as well.....TNX  8-)

( mailto://skeetter@thebestisp.com ...this is my home ISP.

---------------------------------


> -----Original Message-----
> From: M Cordrey İmailto:mcordrey@PERL.SDSU.EDU¨
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 12:11 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: keyboard scan codes
>
>
> I recently saw on the list that someone had a list of
> keyboard scan codes
> for the 200lx.  I would greatly appreciate having that sent
> off list. I
> have been using different utilities to find the codes but it
> would be nice
> to have as a reference. Thanks  -MC
>
> -
> Michelle Cordrey                         <mcordrey@perl.sdsu.edu>
>
> Pacific Estuarine Research Laboratory
>
>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:34:24 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Hebrew on the Hp200Lx  -  2

Jeff Malka writes:
>
> Now I need to find out how to silence the error beeps in qtext when I no
> longer have Buddy to do it.  There does not seem to be a built way to do
> it within qtext that I can find.  (Manual is in hebrew!).
>
> Jeff

I'm not sur there is, but I think that the manual is available in
English as well. I know that for higher versions, there is English help
and manual.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:42:12 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      NIMH now available in Israel

For users in Israel, I just found that you can buy NiMH batteries at Home
Centre. A pack of 4 1300maH battteries with charger for 145 shekels ($US36).
I might add they work great!

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:11:36 -0500
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From:         "Robert H. Pigford" <profengr@DELANET.COM>
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There is a file called KEYCODE.ZIP (6k) on the SUPER site database at
http://www.palmtop.net/hp_db.html

It is reported to be a .gdb file of all the scan codes of standard,
extended, and HP200LX keyboards.

        Cheers,
        Bob Pigford


Carson, Jon A. wrote:
>
> Me as well.....TNX  8-)
>
> ( mailto://skeetter@thebestisp.com ...this is my home ISP.
>
>
> > I recently saw on the list that someone had a list of
> > keyboard scan codes
> > for the 200lx.  I would greatly appreciate having that sent
> > off list. I
> > have been using different utilities to find the codes but it
> > would be nice
> > to have as a reference. Thanks  -MC
> >
> > -
> > Michelle Cordrey                         <mcordrey@perl.sdsu.edu>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:34:16 -0600
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I have a 2MB HP100LX in great condition for sale including all the manuals.
I will take bids this week.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:55:15 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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A "shot-in-the-dark" possibility... How does that program manage time?
Does it work "ok" in the afternoon and fail in the morning(s)?  Does it
have an internal timing thing that "thinks" it's been running (allowing
that palmtops are never really "off") for too long with out GPS
reference?  That "stack failure" message indicates (at least to me, an
non-programmer) that some memory array, or environment variable might be
too small.

Sorry if none of this helps, good luck!

Phil

>
>I have had my hp95lx for a couple of weeks. I bought it to use while mobile
>for tracking sateiites. I loaded the tracking program (using KERMIT) and it
>works fine with the internal (AA) batteries or with the AC adaptor. But when
>i took it for a mobile test a few days ago, after pressing F4 it run fine
>for a few minutes then the screen went blank, i could not turn it OFF but
>could see it was still ON. I disconnected all the batteries and it reset to
>factory defaults. Got home loaded the program again  and it worked fine.
>Left it for 24hrs. tried to run it again this morning and got a message:
>FATAL: Internal Stack Failure
>press Enter to reboot.
>I tried Enter and it had locked up, so had to remove all the batteries again.
>What does the Message mean, and am i doing something wrong. Any help will be
>appreciated. Scott
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:56:51 -0000
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Hermann Kellinghaus wrote:

>Is there a way to build or buy a 'keyboard connector, which fools the
>PC during POST?

Have you checked that your BIOS does not have the facility to disable
keyboard checking. I have seen several which provide this (and several that
do not). There are "keyboard simulators" available here in the UK which are
small boxes which plug into the keyboard position and provide the correct
responses. Size is approximately 5cm x 5cm x 2cm and cost is around 40UK
pounds. I expect you should be able to get something similar in Germany.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:52:48 -0000
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Jeff Malka wrote:
>Does anyone know what the loss of battery life is with a double speed
>upgrade?

I have seen figures quoted of around 10 to 15%. In support of this figure, I
recently upgraded my palmtop to double speed, but have only been through one
charge cycle so far which gave 10 hours usage (using 1500mAH NiMH).
Typically I used to get between 10 and 12 hours before the upgrade so it
seems that doublespeed has not had much of an effect.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:15:04 -0600
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On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:26:19 -0700, scott smith <ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET> wrote:

> I have had my hp95lx for a couple of weeks. I bought it to use while mobile
> for tracking sateiites. I loaded the tracking program (using KERMIT) and it

Scott, are you using REALSKED? That was originally written for the 95LX so
it seems odd that it would be causing a problem.... Hmmmm.... maybe someone
else has an idea?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:17:19 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:09:58 -0500 (EST)

20h17m05s ago ...
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, The Hornberger's wrote:

> What amount of time do you get from a charge?  I've tried the RS Hi-Cap
> Nicads, RS regular Nicads and Eveready nicads and don't get a lot of
> life from any of them.  It doesn't matter if I charge them in the
> Palmtop (w/ ABC-LX) or in a charger.

I'm getting about 5.5 hours with the RS HiCap NiCads.  More-or-less the
same from the RS NiMH.  I'm probably going to order the NiMH from
Thaddeus.  Supposed to give much better performance than expected from
their rated capacity (1350 mAHr).  I have a 2x speed 8MB machine with
a fast but power hungry Simple Technology 96MB card.

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:30:55 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Proxies
Comments: cc: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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"R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> writes:
> Is there anyway to setup any of the various networking programs,
> WWW/LX and/or WATTCP/LXTCP  to work on a network through a proxy?

LXTCP has support for proxies built in.

The trouble is that there is no standard for proxies, so I've built in
the ones that I use at work :-)

But, you have the source code for LXTCP, so you can modify it to suit
your own circumstances :-)

But seriously, if you need better proxy support from LXPOP, LXNNTP or
LXFTP just send me the details of the proxy.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:05:15 -0500
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What is the significance of turning a.bat fie into a.com file?=1A

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:55:48 +1100
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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Adbdump sounds like it is what I need. I tried to run it on my appointment
file but keep getting a memory allocation error even if I exit all
application and start at the DOS prompt. Do you know what would cause that?

Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location -  www.privacy.com.au



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A look at the documentation of adbio.exe finds the following
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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:11:00 -0800
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              Sharon Rose <sharon_rose@IRISHROSE.COM>
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On Mon, 15 Feb Marshall Erling wrote:

> Configuring NetTamer was a piece of cake.  No proxies, nothing tricky.

As I mentioned in a private message (which I think I may have
addressed incorrectly) I dowloaded NetTamer and got it working with
my EXP 14.4 PCMCIA modem accessing Compuserve and a basic PPP ISP.
Since I wrote that, I've been back to the computer shop (Application
Solutions in Bellevue WA, home of very patient sales people) and tried
out the 200LX and NetTamer with the Ricochet modem.

I couldn't even get them to talk to each other. (I'm pretty sure they
weren't talking because the Ricochet SE has several icons on an LCD
display to indicate what's going on and NetTamer is pretty explicit
about what it's up to.) I find NetTamer's configuration process and
*many* login scripts confusing.

Which .log file are you using, and how do you set up the comm and
user/service sections? I've got com1, IRQ 4, 19200 baud, ATDT dial, and
AT&F in th comm section, and one space each for login & email names &
passwords, DNS 168.253.48.19, dial string 777**PPP, and service1.log in
the user/service section. Are there any other settings I should worry
about?

TIA,

Sharon Rose
 sharon_rose@irishrose.com

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:43:12 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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> I am looking for the program called Palmtop Circuit for design of =
analog
> electronic circuits. Anyone knows where to get it and if you have a
> copy- is it good?
>
> Looking forward to a reply.

Jorgen:

Here's a reply.  I contacted both the company and their distributor a
month or so ago.  Their web site says that the product is still a
current item for sale.  However, the distributor replied to my e-mail
and told me that they no longer offered it for sale.  I wrote him back,
pointing out that it was still being advertised for sale, and I never
heard back from him again.  I never did hear back from the manufacturer
at all.  If you like, I'll follow-up with additional e-mails when I
return from my business trip next week.

-Chris



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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:38:20 +0100
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              "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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>What is the significance of turning
>a.bat fie into a.com file?

The PC reads a batfile line for line. If you convert it to com, then the whole file will be read. You will notice the difference specially on diskette drives or with big batfiles.

-goe-

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<<The PC reads a batfile line for line. If you convert it to com,
then the whole file will be read. You will notice the
difference specially on diskette drives or with big batfiles.
  >>

Many thanks.=1A

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Date:         Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:31:25 -0500
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              Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
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Mike,

131ma is just fine.  Set the speed in the communication program at 38.4
and see what it will do.  The PCMCIA port is rated at 150ma.    =Bob=

Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to be able to try out my Hayes Optima PC-Card modem
> in my 200LX, but am a little reluctant to do so until I know
> for sure that it's not going to reduce my palmtop to a
> smouldering wreck!
>
> It's an Optima 56K Global (I know I'm not going to get
> 56kbits/s, but it'll be faster than my present 9600!), and
> the power consumption is, according to Hayes' web site, 131mA
> at 5VDC (normal), 6mA at 5VDC (sleep). Is this OK, risky, or
> liable to melt some circuitry? Any advice gratefully
> accepted!
>
>  -Mike
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:48:18 +0100
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Hi all,

Well, finally got a CF card, 32 MB! Its a Viking CF card and a SCM pcmcia
adapter. Works nicely, but one major problem. It hangs the whole system now
and again in many applications. From topcard, system manager, phone and
address... I have Buddy loaded as the only tsr, cic100 and the laplink tsr
are remmed out. I don't use anything else in the pcmcia slot. Fresh
batteries. My sram card NEVER hanged... Oh yes, when booting it says
something about the flash card not ready, or else it can't read buddy from
the flash card (Abort, Retry, Fail).

Any ideas?

br

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I am planning a project where the palmtop is used to log data and I need 3
or more 1000cx's (2 meg preferred but 1 acceptable), new or used.  The
problem is that we have contacted several suppliers (including Thaddeus),
and they have no stock, either new or used.

Anyone know where we can find 1000CX's?  Obviously, 200LX can be
substituted, but are a tad more expensive!  Is the fact that some
suppliers no longer stock the 1000CX a harbinger of problems to come with
the 200LX?

Thanks,


Lionel

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:54:45 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:47:22 -0500 (EST)

56m47s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Franklin wrote:

> Well, finally got a CF card, 32 MB! Its a Viking CF card and a SCM =
pcmcia
> adapter...
  <...snip...>
> ... when booting it says
> something about the flash card not ready, or else it can't read buddy =
from
> the flash card (Abort, Retry, Fail).

Hmmm...  Are you using this card in a 100LX or 200LX?  The 100 can't
use a lot of the newer cards without an additional driver.  No problem
for the 200.  The ACE driver works, but the company is out of business.
If that's the problem, maybe someone on the list can help.

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:59:45 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Radio Shack NiMH
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Hi, Peniel.
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> I'm getting about 5.5 hours with the RS HiCap NiCads.  More-or-less
> the same from the RS NiMH.  I'm probably going to order the NiMH from
> Thaddeus.  Supposed to give much better performance than expected from
> their rated capacity (1350 mAHr).  I have a fast but power hungry
> Simple Technology 96MB card.
>
The ST card is your problem.  The Thaddeus NiMH will only do a little
better, about 7 hours or so.  I used an ST 40MB card until very recently
when I purchased a Sandisk 48MB CF card with adapter.  Now I get at least
13 hrs with the Thaddeus/T2T NiMH (5MB/doublespeed machine).  The speed of
the Sandisk card is even slightly faster than the ST card.
If you really need the extra battery life, it may be worth it to bite the
bullet and shell out for a new flash card.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>> Or more properly, DOS sees the palmtop as being a PC/XT with one
>> diskette drive (the PCMCIA slot). When DOS finds itself running on a
>> single-diskette machine, it automatically ASSIGNs b: to a:.
>>
> Interestingly, the SDK states that drive B: is reserved for a second
> partition on a flash card... but nobody has gotten this to work in the
> palmtop yet.  It might work for a second PC Card socket, if somebody
cared
> to add one.  :)

Very interesting indeed! I would have thought that DOS would forbid
partitioning of a removable disk (either a: or b:) and that the only way
around this is to ASSIGN a fixed disk ID to the flashcard (e: and up, since
c: and d: are already taken by the RAM disk and the ROM disk respectively).

Software development for palmtops must be a Dark Art indeed!  ;-}

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:29:32 -0800
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I'll bite.

I have the same 40mb ST card (STI-ATAFL/40) and the same 5-7 hours of battery
life using NiMH.

What's the part number of the 48mb Sandisk CF (in case they change the model or
design), and what did you pay for it?

- Longden





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Hi, Peniel.
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> I'm getting about 5.5 hours with the RS HiCap NiCads.  More-or-less
> the same from the RS NiMH.  I'm probably going to order the NiMH from
> Thaddeus.  Supposed to give much better performance than expected from
> their rated capacity (1350 mAHr).  I have a fast but power hungry
> Simple Technology 96MB card.
>
The ST card is your problem.  The Thaddeus NiMH will only do a little
better, about 7 hours or so.  I used an ST 40MB card until very recently
when I purchased a Sandisk 48MB CF card with adapter.  Now I get at least
13 hrs with the Thaddeus/T2T NiMH (5MB/doublespeed machine).  The speed of
the Sandisk card is even slightly faster than the ST card.
If you really need the extra battery life, it may be worth it to bite the
bullet and shell out for a new flash card.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:23:52 -0700
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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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scott smith wrote:
> Left it for 24hrs. tried to run it again this morning and got a message:
> FATAL: Internal Stack Failure
> press Enter to reboot.
> I tried Enter and it had locked up, so had to remove all the batteries again.
> What does the Message mean, and am i doing something wrong. Any help will be
> appreciated. Scott

Here's another 'shot-in-the-dark'. Check the contents of the
CONFIG.SYS file and see if you have a line that says STACKS=. If
not, try putting one in (something like STACKS=10,256 should
work).

If you didn't have a STACKS line in there, I would expect you to
get 'Internal Stack Overflow', not a Failure. So I'm not sure
what could be wrong. Sorry.

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Some years ago every conductor of the Netherland railways
was equipped with a palmtop. They had the complete timetable on
it and were able to find the exact price for tickets to sell on
the train.

However, the last time I've been to the Netherlands, the
palmtops were replaced by a much larger system with print
capabilities.

I wonder were all these (hundreds or thousands) of palmtops
have gone, especially because every one had a flash card in it.

I cannot remember if they were 100LX or 200LX. The software was
DOS based and written by a (palmtop power user) conductor
himself, as one of the conductors told me when he saw me
working with my palmtop.

Is anybody from NL on the list and willing to do some
investigations concerning what happend to the hard- and
software?

Just imagine thousands of palmtops and flashcards collecting
dust in a "Nederlandse Spoorwegen" archive.

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I have always been puzzled by this.  Using Software Carousel on the HP
200LX, to switch from one work area to another, one needs to
simultaneously hold the CTRL and the appropriate number key for it to
work.  I have buddy on the HP which allows the HP to "remember" the CTRL
key so that for all other purposes one need not physically hold the CTRL
key down while pressing the second key.  One can do them in sequence - BUT
not to change areas in SC.  Anyone know why that would be?


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Reply-To:     Walter Francis <wally@pop.uky.edu>
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From:         Walter Francis <wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Off Topic:  Help with Outlook '97.

Please reply directly, off the list, I hate to post this here at all.  :)

I would like to use Outlook over Outlook Express, but I can't seem to be
able to do one highly important thing in Outlook, and that is move messages
to different folders on criteria.

It would seem the Inbox Assistant is capable of doing so, but it only
applies to MS Exchange Servers (gee, I guess they think it has to be
server-based?) and only seems to be able to filter (hide non-matching)
messages within the same folder.

Outlook Express is able to move messages, such as HPLX-L and ELKS
mailinglist messages, to appropriate folders and keep 'private' email in the
normal inbox.

If someone could tell me how to make this possible with Outlook '97 I'd be
highly grateful.  Or perhaps another EMail program that is affordable (read
<$30)..

Thanks!

--
Walter Francis  KT4LH
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Date:         Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:09:58 +0000
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Since I'm actually using my 95LX now, I need a utility to chop text
files into smaller files so that I can load them onto my 95LX.  Does
anyone know of such a utility?

Thanks,

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:46:53 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Smart Technology 6MB modem/flashcard problem
Comments: To: Chris Gearhart <cgearhar@NTPLX.NET>

Howdy,

Also, in addition to the fine "Smart" (couldn't resist) advice I've seen
here, you have to use the SMFORMAT (.com, I think) program to format the
critter properly.  I used one of these cards for a LONG time and found that
regular DOS format gave me a 2 MB disk and the special program gave me the 6
MB. I can dig it up, if you can't find/don't have it İI think I got it last
in a web search¨.

I forget the parameters BUT remember, if you type the command SMFORMAT from
its directory İor it's in the PATH¨ WITHOUT any additional instructions or
parameters, it returns a short set of instructions.  You can use various
switches and parameters to specify the size you want İ2-6 MB¨ and the MAX
amount of files you'll be permitted in your root directory.  It's an odd
card and the file limitation in the root directory sometimes caused me to
corrupt the whole thing, I imagine that it uses a compression scheme of some
sort, but the modem *sips* power!  I used to go onto CIS for huge lengths of
time .... 'Course you ARE at 2400bps....

Don't totally rely on it to keep data İI corrupted things quite often¨ and
kept a small, reliable 2MB card w/ the drivers, etc. on hand for the SMART
card (so I could recover in the field).

I found my old Compaq Laptop w/ win 3.x, CardSoft PC Card support etc. could
recognize w/ the card as memory and it was a wonderful way to me to quickly
port. my LX back-ups to my HDD.  I've both upgraded PC Cards (and laptops)
and found that I can't convince Win98 to recognize it; so I don't use mine
much anymore.

HTH, Good Luck,

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Francis İSMTP:wally@POP.UKY.EDU¨
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 12:57 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Off Topic:  Help with Outlook '97.
>
> Please reply directly, off the list, I hate to post this here at all.
> :)
>
> I would like to use Outlook over Outlook Express, but I can't seem to
> be
> able to do one highly important thing in Outlook, and that is move
> messages
> to different folders on criteria.
>
> It would seem the Inbox Assistant is capable of doing so, but it only
> applies to MS Exchange Servers (gee, I guess they think it has to be
> server-based?) and only seems to be able to filter (hide non-matching)
> messages within the same folder.
>
> Outlook Express is able to move messages, such as HPLX-L and ELKS
> mailinglist messages, to appropriate folders and keep 'private' email
> in the
> normal inbox.
>

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:53:41 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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It's a 200LX, haven't tried it in my 700LX (which is gathering dust now...).
I think I will have to try it there. But the 200LX doesn't need the ACE
driver, does it?

br

Franklin


-----Original Message-----
From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Franklin
<franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: CF-card problems...

Hmmm...  Are you using this card in a 100LX or 200LX?  The 100 can't
use a lot of the newer cards without an additional driver.  No problem
for the 200.  The ACE driver works, but the company is out of business.
If that's the problem, maybe someone on the list can help.

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:58:47 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: More Accton networking questions
Comments: To: James Gill <jlgill@airmail.net>

Hi,


There's an aritcle that describes how to do this on www.hplx.net (Dave
Seargent's site). I followed this article but still was not able to get it
to work. Here's some info that finally let me allow it to work (with Dave's
help):

- You must be using 802.3 frame types on your Netware server. You may need
to talk to the administrator to find out if they are using that frame type.
The frame type is set when you load the ethernet card driver on the server.
You can, usually, run multiple frame types on the same network card.

- On the palmtop, I loaded my drivers using the following batch file:

op2216
pd2212 0x62 5
lsl
pdipx
netx
g:
login


note: The article had a "-n" parameter on the pd2212 line that was screwing
me up. You can download all the drivers I'm using in the bat file from
hplx.net


- You also have to make sure you have the statement "lastdrive=X"  (where X
is the "local" last drive letter on your plamtop.
                LASTDRIVE=E: (non 64/32MB machines)
                LASTDRIVE=F: (64/32MB machines)

I have a 32MB LX so G: is my first drive.


I intend to write an Accton How-to doucment once I fugure out how to set it
up. It may take me a while....


good luck


> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Gill İmailto:jlgill@airmail.net¨
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 9:23 PM
> To: HPLX Mailing List; Ed Padin
> Subject: Re: More Accton networking questions
>
>
> I have just received my Accton card and would sure benefit
> from a detailed
> step-by-step
> procedure for installing and getting it to see a Novell
> network. Please note
> 'detailed' as some of us are not experienced as others.
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > Well, I've gotten the LX netware client working (with David
> and everyone
> > elses help. thank you.)  I do  have a followup question re:
> Netware. It
> > seems that I can't run .com files after I log in to the
> netware server. I
> > can't even run 200.com to access system manager. Any ideas?
> >
> > I'm also in need of some guidance on configuring IP. I know
> that IP setup
> > depends on what package I want to use. I'm not sure of the
> differences but I
> > just want to use the simplest one that will allow telnet,
> ping, ftp, simple
> > http and a packet sniffer. If someone could include a
> sample config I would
> > greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > I promise that when I've gotten this accomplished I will
> write it down and
> > put it on a Web page so that everyone can access it.
> >
> > thanks
> >
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hi Ian,

<<BTW, I won a $20 credit from Thaddeus in an hplx.net contest a while
back.
Has anyone actually tried to redeem their credit?  I've mailed Hal about
it
three or four times and haven't gotten *any* response.  Grr..>>

As you know (as a few days ago) I finally did get back to you.  I had
been offline for 2 weeks.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:02:23 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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I was able to connect it by using
op2216
pd2212 0x61 5
pdipx
netx

I was not using LSL.


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:29:44 -0800
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              Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: When to replace backup batteries...
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Hi Ian,

Yo there.

> As you know (as a few days ago) I finally did get back to you.  I had
> been offline for 2 weeks.

I just got my batteries today, and I have to admit that y'all were very kind
and very prompt.  I didn't know you were on vacation, and after a few mails
I was getting a little peeved.  So, please excuse my mud.  <g>

I just threw a speed driver and ABC on my flash and the 200LX is happily
recharging itself to its former glorious state.  Thanks, Thaddeus!

(The other pair of batteries went in my minidisc walkman.  Now, if a) the
walkman would record, and b) the 200LX had sound support .. well, that'd be
cool. ;)

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

"Two thousand people in a seething, roaring, shouting mass!"

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:56:00 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I have always been puzzled by this.  Using Software Carousel on the HP
> 200LX, to switch from one work area to another, one needs to
> simultaneously hold the CTRL and the appropriate number key for it to
> work.  I have buddy on the HP which allows the HP to "remember" the CTRL
> key so that for all other purposes one need not physically hold the CTRL
> key down while pressing the second key.  One can do them in sequence - BUT
> not to change areas in SC.  Anyone know why that would be?

I switch SC areas by pressing Shift-F1 (or F2, etc).  The keys
can be reassigned so maybe you changed them from the Shift
defaults to use Ctrl instead?

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:13:17 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks,

Some time ago I purchased a sandisk cf and adapter
at Frye's.  Could not get it to work, tried a
smaller one, likewise no go.
Worked fine in the thinkpad.

I concluded there was something wrong with my
machine.

A coworker just received a 200lx from his father
as a gift. Stock 2meg machine, with a sandisk cf
card.
While helping him I was able to try his cf card in
my machine.  Worked fine without any extra
tweaking the first time.

So...  Anybody have a clue what might be going on?

--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:21:50 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks,

I d/led the Addin for exchange to convert pdf to
html and tried it on the pdf version of the
manual.
I ended up with 100s of one page files.

Anyone interested in putting them together in to a
linked working document?



--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:17:26 -0500
Reply-To:     malkajef@orthohelp.com
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: SC work areas
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199902170056.AAA28152@out2.ibm.net>

->I switch SC areas by pressing Shift-F1 (or F2, etc).  The keys can be
->reassigned so maybe you changed them from the Shift defaults to use
->Ctrl instead?

Same question.  Do you use Buddy and if so will it change workareas if you
press Shift-F1/F2 in "sequence" or do you need to hold both keys down
simultaneously.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:20:06 -0500
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Hi

Has anyone used GP from a phone (i.e. hotel room) where a long dial string
including a credit card number was needed.  I tried it yesterday, and
couldn't fit the number in the field.

Here is a sample phone number:

8,,AreaCode+PhoneNumber,,,,,,,16DigitCreditCardNumber

Is there somewhere else to put the ending pauses and the credit card number?

Thanks

Sean

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>8,,AreaCode+PhoneNumber,,,,,,,16DigitCreditCardNumber


Hi Sean

I dont know about GP but you *should* be able to save 4 or 5 spaces by
changing the default pause time to a larger setting for each comma..  Maybe
more if the first pause can be same time as second..  ie the above becomes
8,AreaCode+PhoneNumber,,,,16DigitCreditCardNumber
or
8,AreaCode+PhoneNumber,16DigitCreditCardNumber

Regards

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In a message dated 2/16/1999 8:12:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
patrickwest@USWEST.NET writes:

>
>  Some time ago I purchased a sandisk cf and adapter
>  at Frye's.  Could not get it to work
<snip>
>
>  A coworker just received a 200 lx from his father  as a gift. Stock 2meg
machine, with a sandisk cf card.   While helping him I was able to try his cf
card in
>  my machine.  Worked fine without any extra  tweaking the first time.
>
>  So...  Anybody have a clue what might be going on?
>
There are two possibilities.  Either you have a 100LX, and the friend's
flashcard is NOT a compact flash, but an older Linear Flash card.  If this is
the case, then you need the Acecard driver for your 100 to recognize the ATA
type compact flash.

The other possibility is that your palmtop is haunted.  I can't think of
another possibility.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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My office switched to Microsoft outlook.  I am being forced to get a CE
machine that can synchronize with the  calendar from outlook.  I am
resisting.  If someone would write a simple (e.g. one key stroke) routine
that would simply write an HP200lx calendar .adb file from my desktop's
outlook calendar,  I will pay a $250 reward and post the program to the
SUPER
site for for anyone else on the list who wants it.  I am willing to go "one
way" from desktop to HP200LX .  Each day I would like to back up my hp200
calendar file and then download the latest file from outlook.  I don't have
to go from the HP to outlook.  When I am traveling my secretary could create
the file daily and email it to me.  I am not a programmer and have no clue
as to how to do this.  Without it, I will be forced to buy a  CE device and
carry two palmtops.  I will send the money to a neutral party (Mitch has
agreed to hold the money if anyone wants to do this and post the program to
the SUPER site?)
I don't know if $250 is realistic or interesting to the programmers on the
list but I hope it is. If I receive any interest, I will send the money to
Mitch .  When the program is known to work he can
send the money to the author and post the program.
Cheers
Ron
p.s. if anyone wants to contribute to the pool of money to make this more
interesting ... please join in.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:25:09 -0800
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Comments: To: shoger@BUYRITE.COM
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              16, 99 09:20:06 pm"
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GP has several fields for this, plus a field that tells it in which
order to dial each piece.  In addition, you can set it up so all of this
is toggled on/off with the F3 key from the main status screen.  One more
thing, rather than use alot of commas it recognizes a semicolon and
pops up a dialog at each one to allow you to continue dialing.  All of
this is setup in a Locale record.

Once you receive your manual, have a look at the "dialing gymnastics"
section.  For now, move from field to field and read the "Hint" for
each field.  The way the "Dialing order" field works is this:  You
order the letters PNCS in the order you want the fields dialed.  The
letters stand for "Prefix, Number, Card, Security-pin".  This allows
you to handle billed cards (usually dialed *after* the ISP) as well as
prepaid ones (usually dialed first, then a pin, then the isp #).

The dialing options in GP are *very* flexible, and should be able to
handle most dialing situations.  If you have any questions, please
email me (preferably at the support address).  Hopefully your manual
will arrive soon and help too.

Oh, you can split your calling card between the card and pin fields if
you need more room too.


> Hi
>
> Has anyone used GP from a phone (i.e. hotel room) where a long dial string
> including a credit card number was needed.  I tried it yesterday, and
> couldn't fit the number in the field.
>
> Here is a sample phone number:
>
> 8,,AreaCode+PhoneNumber,,,,,,,16DigitCreditCardNumber
>
> Is there somewhere else to put the ending pauses and the credit card number?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean
>
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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:30:42 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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If you're after a fast PC-Card modem for your palmtop, the
good news is that the Hayes Optima 56K Global PC-Card modem
(what a mouthful!) seems to work fine. The only slight
problem I had in getting it to work was having to increase
the timeout value in my www.cfg when waiting for the login
prompt (in the Pipex script) - don't know why that was
necessary, as it worked fine with my other 9,600 bps modem.

Just for the fun of it, I cranked up the baud rate to the
maximum 115,200 in WWWSetup and surfed away using WWW/LX. To
cut a long story short, it was *fast*! While I appreciate
that the actual baud rate was presumably considerably less
than 115,200 bps, it was certainly a pleasant change after
using 9,600 bps!

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:53:12 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Double Slot/Speed
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hi,
since I have a accton net card,
I'm thinking to buy a double slot.
Where is it possible to find one?
prices?
why do you say you can't access simultaneously?

I want to be able to read/write to a flash card and to the network
at the same time.
is it possible?
regards
Al
> I can now access local Novel LAN, internet,
> and my hard drive all at once.  (Well not simultaneously, but you
> know what I mean).  All I added to my system was the DSLOT.SYS
> driver - no patches, nothing else.  Great!
>
> -Chris

Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Bronx, NY 10461

Ah, home!! (g)

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:03:18 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      Macronix model maxlite 14.4
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hi
Do you still have it?
please,HELP
could you tell me the pinout of the cable?
regards
Al
> 1ea External modem Macronix model maxlite 14.4
>         9 volt or 110v comes with cable and gender changer
>         110 v transformer.
>         Price=$20.00


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:11:25 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Hi Bob,

Thank you very much for the advice. I've tried it out, and it
works just fine, turbo-charged web browsing and all!

 -Mike

> 131ma is just fine.  Set the speed in the communication program at 38.4
> and see what it will do.  The PCMCIA port is rated at 150ma.    =3DBob=3D

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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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> Does anyone know what the loss of battery life is with a double speed
> upgrade?
>
> I have a double speed 32 MB 200LX in which I use Mack's rechargeable
> lithium batteries.  I have not measured it recently but it looks as if =
I
> have to recharge them daily - maybe 1-2 hours of continued use.  Seems
> rather low.  Anyone know what it should be?

There is no real loss from what I can tell from my 32 meg doublespeed.
Depending on how much I use a modem and flash card I get anywhere from 9 to 24
hours on 1300 mAh NiMHs, if I let them get low (stay below 2.40 volts). On a
single speed 2 meg I would get 8 to 14 using the same type batteries. I charge
them to 150% capacity in the 200LX and recharge whenever. Did you make sure you
conditioned the batteries when you first started using them by giving them a
couple deep cycle charges to let them reach their full capacity? You need to do
that with all nickel metal hydrides and Nicads. Of course if you use them they
will deplete but 2 hours a day does not seem like much (you will only drain
your battery at the most a quarter which will take about 4.5 hours of charge to
replenish) unless you are leaving a pcmcia card in the slot and its not kicking
into sleep mode like a modem or network card. Maybe you are undercharging them
and they won't hold a good charge now. In that case do a couple deep cycles.
Don't overcharge them though.

John

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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:

> Same question.  Do you use Buddy and if so will it change workareas if
> you press Shift-F1/F2 in "sequence" or do you need to hold both keys
> down simultaneously.

I use Buddy, and I use the SHIFT-Fx keys to change work areas.  Sticky
shift works fine... if I hit Shift, let up, then hit F2, I go to work area
2.

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              "d.hertrich" <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi

> Here's a reply.  I contacted both the company and their distributor a
> month or so ago.  Their web site says that the product is still a
> current item for sale.  However, the distributor replied to my e-mail
> and told me that they no longer offered it for sale.  I wrote him back,
> pointing out that it was still being advertised for sale, and I never
> heard back from him again.  I never did hear back from the manufacturer
> at all.  If you like, I'll follow-up with additional e-mails when I
> return from my business trip next week.

I'm also searching for such a program and would be glad, if you
let me also know about that!

GTX
daniel

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                                     0177/7955549
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:27:50 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:


> There are two possibilities.  Either you have a 100LX,
Nope, my machine is a 200lx

> and the friend's flashcard is NOT a compact flash,
It is an adapter with a a sandisk CF unit in it.

> but an older Linear Flash card.  If this is the case, then
> you need the Acecard driver for your 100 to recognize the ATA
> type compact flash.

Understood. However this is CF.  And my machine
reads it fine. It is identical
to the CF and adapter I purchased and then
returned to Frye's last fall
because my 200lx would not read it.  Yet tis time
my 200lx reads and writes
it without problem.

> The other possibility is that your palmtop is haunted.
Hmmm.............
--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:45:29 +1100
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From:         David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
Subject:      Outlook to adb (was $250 fund for programming)
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> My office switched to Microsoft outlook.  I am being forced to get a CE
> machine that can synchronize with the  calendar from outlook.  I am
> resisting.  If someone would write a simple (e.g. one key stroke) =
routine
> that would simply write an HP200lx calendar .adb file from my desktop's
> outlook calendar
>

I have been thinking about this for a while.

I am a Visual Basic programmer, and can write either a VB program, or
more likely a VBA module to:

1) dump the outlook calendar to a text file
2) use adbdump to inport the text file to a adb file.


This could be completely automated.  The reverse can also just as
easily be done to uplat from adb to outlook.

The only hard part I can see so far is the synchronisation.  With not
too much work, I could eliminate duplicates on the upload to outlook, but =
I
can not see any smarts being applied to the download to adb.

One way around this is to ALWAYS upload the ADB file into outlook
first sychronising all appointments, eliminating duplicates, then
download the data back to the adb file.

I don't think this would be too hard a task.

OK, I will try it. If anyone has a better solution, or is developing
something now, let me know so I don't waste my time on another
solution.

I will focus on one part of the problem only at first:

1) download appointments to adb from outlook

I will them do:

a) download events to adb from outlook
b) download todos to adb from outlook
c) upload appointments to outlook from adb
d) upload events to outlook from adb
e) upload todos to outlook from adb

anything else?

Of course, I will have to find a corresponding object in outlook for
todos and events.

To get an idea of how needed this is, could you please send me an email
if you are interested in this utility.  I will need a small number of
beta testers.

I have Outlook 98. How many other versions are needed to be supported?

Would/Could you move to Outlook 98 in order to use this utility?

David Eggins.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:19:35 -0500
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              Ronald Fenton <ronald.fenton@UTORONTO.CA>
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A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card  (including deleting wwwlx),
caused my HPLX doublespeed to require rebooting, and scrambled some off
my config files on my laptop (Sony Vaio).  Since this all happened at
the same time I can only attribute it to the xray machine. Has anyone
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:34:30 -0500
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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I have started (almost finished) a utility that will convert an Outlook
generated comma delimited file to a file suitable for ADBIO to process and
create a 'mergable' HP appt. file.  I will try to finish it up today.

Sean

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From: David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:11 AM
Subject: Outlook to adb (was $250 fund for programming)


> My office switched to Microsoft outlook.  I am being forced to get a CE
> machine that can synchronize with the  calendar from outlook.  I am
> resisting.  If someone would write a simple (e.g. one key stroke) routine
> that would simply write an HP200lx calendar .adb file from my desktop's
> outlook calendar
>

I have been thinking about this for a while.

I am a Visual Basic programmer, and can write either a VB program, or
more likely a VBA module to:

1) dump the outlook calendar to a text file
2) use adbdump to inport the text file to a adb file.


This could be completely automated.  The reverse can also just as
easily be done to uplat from adb to outlook.

The only hard part I can see so far is the synchronisation.  With not
too much work, I could eliminate duplicates on the upload to outlook, but I
can not see any smarts being applied to the download to adb.

One way around this is to ALWAYS upload the ADB file into outlook
first sychronising all appointments, eliminating duplicates, then
download the data back to the adb file.

I don't think this would be too hard a task.

OK, I will try it. If anyone has a better solution, or is developing
something now, let me know so I don't waste my time on another
solution.

I will focus on one part of the problem only at first:

1) download appointments to adb from outlook

I will them do:

a) download events to adb from outlook
b) download todos to adb from outlook
c) upload appointments to outlook from adb
d) upload events to outlook from adb
e) upload todos to outlook from adb

anything else?

Of course, I will have to find a corresponding object in outlook for
todos and events.

To get an idea of how needed this is, could you please send me an email
if you are interested in this utility.  I will need a small number of
beta testers.

I have Outlook 98. How many other versions are needed to be supported?

Would/Could you move to Outlook 98 in order to use this utility?

David Eggins.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 07:40:24 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: airport xray machines and data loss
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I have put my HP 100 with a flash card through XRay machines dozens of
times, and have never had a problem.  There have been threads on this
subject here, and on the HPHAND forum on Compuserve, and the concensus is
that XRay machines do not cause problems for the HPx00.

Alan





At 06:19 AM 2/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
>scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card  (including deleting wwwlx),
>caused my HPLX doublespeed to require rebooting, and scrambled some off
>my config files on my laptop (Sony Vaio).  Since this all happened at
>the same time I can only attribute it to the xray machine. Has anyone
>experienced similar problems or has a comment about this?
>
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Ronald Fenton wrote,

>>A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card...

I hope you were not physically exposed to the same Xray machine. Early on=
,
in the life of the Palmtop, there was a lot of discussion about
interference from security xray machines. Most people found that there we=
re
no deleterious effects to their Palmtops unless the xray machine might ha=
ve
been malfunctioning. =

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Subject:      Sandisk 48MB CF, was Re: Radio Shack NiMH
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
> What's the part number of the 48mb Sandisk CF (in case they change the model or
> design), and what did you pay for it?
>
Part# for the 48MB card is: SDCFB-48-144
Part# for the CF-to-Type II adapter is: SDCF-05
Total was around $150 with shipping.  I ordered from Hardware Street, but
lots of places sell for around the same price.  Prices recently dropped
about $50 for the CF card, probably in anticipation of higher-capacity
cards coming out soon.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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I am planning on using Outlook to be the original source for my contacts and
appointments.  However, I will absolutely not give up the use of my 200lx as
my "carry-around" appointment book.  I looked at the Outlook documentation,
and it indicates it can export items to a comma separated value (CSV) file.
I have also seen utilities which will convert csv files into adb or gdb
files at the supersite (www.palmtop.net).

Why wouldn't this be a quick and painless way to convert the appointment
file?  It seems to me that a batch file or macro recorder could automate the
steps on the desktop, then a utility like Transfile can move it down to the
200LX.  When I get a chance to try this, I will post my results.

Regards,

Paul Figliozzi

-----Original Message-----
From: David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:49 AM
Subject: Outlook to adb (was $250 fund for programming)


> My office switched to Microsoft outlook.  I am being forced to get a CE
> machine that can synchronize with the  calendar from outlook.  I am
> resisting.  If someone would write a simple (e.g. one key stroke) routine
> that would simply write an HP200lx calendar .adb file from my desktop's
> outlook calendar
>

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I received an answer off-list from someone actually having no write
access to HPLX-L. Here is his very interesting report:

Stefan,

I am currently living in Holland (and only reading the digests for the
HPLX list via the web - hence my reply offline).  I hadn't realised that
they had stopped using the LX's on the trains.  As far as I know they
are still being used - I get comments from conductors every time they go
past and I am using mine.  I tell them I am writing emails on it and
they think that's amazing though they are very proud of the software
they use on theirs as well.

Anyway - I will have a poke around and find out what the story is.  If
they are being phased out (which is probably more likely than a bulk
replacement) then I will try and find out what is happening to them.  I
must admit though, I would be surprised if they were 100/200 LX's and
not 1000CXs seeing as they are only being used to run a proprietary
piece of software.  I'll do my best and get back to you...

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:15:05 -0500
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Subject:      Re: SC work areas

There's also the LXshift utility (on Super?) by E. Meyer. It makes the
ctrl/alt/Fn keys sticky. Maybe it'll work better'n buddy for this purpose.
Be careful, tho, it may not be compatible w/ buddy because they try to do
the same thing. Try it w/out buddy loaded.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 1:20 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ SC work areas
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> > Same question.  Do you use Buddy and if so will it change
> workareas if
> > you press Shift-F1/F2 in "sequence" or do you need to hold both keys
> > down simultaneously.
>
> I use Buddy, and I use the SHIFT-Fx keys to change work areas.  Sticky
> shift works fine... if I hit Shift, let up, then hit F2, I go
> to work area
> 2.
>
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I was reading some information about Linux last night, (it
intrigues me) and it said that HP is adopting it to some degree.

OK, so HP won't be coming out with a DOS based follow-up to
the 200LX...  but wouldn't it be cool if HP came out with a
palmtop that came with Linux installed and a suite of apps.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:31:10 -0500
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Very cool but highly unlikely. The closest thing to a Linux palmtop would be
an IBM pc 110 booting from flash with a minimal Linux install. From what I
read, this configuration still draws too much power for a fair comparison to
the LX. The closest we'll come to on the LX is Minix. It's a small unix made
for small machines. Some of the "really smart guys" on this list are working
on it. However, Minix will still be pretty limited because of the lack of
apps. It does come with a development environment so maybe some apps can be
written/ported.

Until someone comes out with a really low power 386 chip we'll just have to
keep on dreaming.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 11:13 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Linux...



I was reading some information about Linux last night, (it
intrigues me) and it said that HP is adopting it to some degree.

OK, so HP won't be coming out with a DOS based follow-up to
the 200LX...  but wouldn't it be cool if HP came out with a
palmtop that came with Linux installed and a suite of apps.

Steve

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> I am planning a project where the palmtop is used to log data and I need
3
> or more 1000cx's (2 meg preferred but 1 acceptable), new or used.  The
> problem is that we have contacted several suppliers (including Thaddeus),
> and they have no stock, either new or used.
>
> Anyone know where we can find 1000CX's?  Obviously, 200LX can be
> substituted, but are a tad more expensive!  Is the fact that some
> suppliers no longer stock the 1000CX a harbinger of problems to come with
> the 200LX?

If Thaddeus is out of 1000CXs, my next bet would be to try Mr. Palmtop/The
One Stop Palmtop Shop (http://www.mrpalmtop.com). They advertise new HP
1000CX / 2MB RAM Palmtop PC, model F1222A at $429.95 ea.with no mention of
negative availability. However, you may be able to get 200LX 2MBs at that
price, especially if you are making a bulk purchase of four units at once.

A search at PDA Page (http://www.pdapage.com) turns up the following:

OnSale (http://www.onsale.com) lists them at $365.30 ea. with no mention of
negative availability.

TechStore (http://www.techstore.com), Calico Software
(http://www.calicosw.com), and CMP Express
(http://beta.cmpexpress.com/store/start/index2.html) all list them in the
range $360-$400 *BUT* they are out of stock/on backorder at this time.

Finally, how about contacting HP themselves?

Hope this helps,
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:42:02 -0500
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I use Perl to interface dumps of 200Lx files back and forth to
Outlook all the time. It works reasonably well, but it is by no means
a single-button-press type of operation.

If you have access to CPACK200 the `Xlate/Merge' function is quite
useful for moving appointments from Outlook into the 200. Moving from
the 200 to Outlook is even easier, as it is quite simple to dump
the 200 information into a form that is easily processed into CSV
files that can be imported into Outlook.

figliozi wrote:
>
> I am planning on using Outlook to be the original source for my contacts and
> appointments.  However, I will absolutely not give up the use of my 200lx as
> my "carry-around" appointment book.  I looked at the Outlook documentation,
> and it indicates it can export items to a comma separated value (CSV) file.
> I have also seen utilities which will convert csv files into adb or gdb
> files at the supersite (www.palmtop.net).
>
> Why wouldn't this be a quick and painless way to convert the appointment
> file?  It seems to me that a batch file or macro recorder could automate the
> steps on the desktop, then a utility like Transfile can move it down to the
> 200LX.  When I get a chance to try this, I will post my results.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Figliozzi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:49 AM
> Subject: Outlook to adb (was $250 fund for programming)
>
> > My office switched to Microsoft outlook.  I am being forced to get a CE
> > machine that can synchronize with the  calendar from outlook.  I am
> > resisting.  If someone would write a simple (e.g. one key stroke) routine
> > that would simply write an HP200lx calendar .adb file from my desktop's
> > outlook calendar
> >
>
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Thanks for that info.

www.shopper.com shows comparative prices for several distributors (including
HardwareStreet), but the lowest price listed for the card alone was about $123.
HardwareStreet has it listed for $125.99, but is out of stock anyway.

Did you see the $50 price drop anyplace in particular?  A 48CF for under $100
would be tempting (based on your $50 price drop against your old total of $150
with shipping).

- Longden





"James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU> on 02/17/99 07:45:27 AM

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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
> What's the part number of the 48mb Sandisk CF (in case they change the model
or
> design), and what did you pay for it?
>
Part# for the 48MB card is: SDCFB-48-144
Part# for the CF-to-Type II adapter is: SDCF-05
Total was around $150 with shipping.  I ordered from Hardware Street, but
lots of places sell for around the same price.  Prices recently dropped
about $50 for the CF card, probably in anticipation of higher-capacity
cards coming out soon.

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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
> HardwareStreet has it listed for $125.99, but is out of stock anyway.
> Did you see the $50 price drop anyplace in particular?  A 48CF for under $100
> would be tempting (based on your $50 price drop against your old total of $150
> with shipping).
>
Actually, the $50 price drop I was referring to was from the price of
about $175 a month or two ago.  So the price of around $125 is the
cheapest I've seen recently.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:07:21 -0500
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One of the things Xlate/Merge allows you to do is to set things up and
then forget about them, triggering the operation with one simple
keystroke. As a result I may have forgotten some of the details of
this, as I did it some time ago.

Basically, I create a *.CDS file containing appointments I want to add
to my HP. This is a CSV file with
  "Date","BeginTime","EndTime","AlarmTime","Description"....
(details may be wrong, but the idea is right). Xlate is set to
specify a CD->200Lx translation, picking up the fields in order.
This converts the .CDS file into an .ADB, and I then use a Merge
step to merge this .ADB into my regular APPT.ADB

It all works pretty easily, except for the fact that Xlate is quite
mysterious about errors, pretty much saying `You're Screwed' (not
literally, but you get the idea) when it encounters something wrong.
I counter this by having the Perl program that writes the .CDS file be
pretty careful, and do some error checking on its own before trying to
write the .CDS.

As you can see, it's by no means one-stop-shopping, but it does work
well enough to be useful and isn't enough trouble to cause me to try
to do any better.

Hope that's what you wanted...

Svitek, Pavel wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Ness İmailto:DNess@HOME.COM¨
> > I use Perl to interface dumps of 200Lx files back and forth to
> > Outlook all the time. It works reasonably well, but it is by no means
> > a single-button-press type of operation.
> >
> > If you have access to CPACK200 the `Xlate/Merge' function is quite
> > useful for moving appointments from Outlook into the 200. Moving from
> > the 200 to Outlook is even easier, as it is quite simple ...
>
> David;
> could you pls tell me more....  :>)
> How do you use the Xlate/Merge function?
>
> thanks
> -pavel

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Thanks to all the list for many good suggestions as to how this could be
done and offers to tackle the project.  A project of this sort has been
discussed on this list for at least a year.  I wanted to give incentive to
someone to really do it.  Critical to me is the "one key-stroke solution".
I will be doing this (or the secretary) every day and want it to be the
model of simplicity.
Thanks for all the contributions, I am sending Mitch the check.
Ron

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:41:22 -0600
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On used, I checked Ebay, past and present auctions, zero in both searches.
With Dejanews.com powersearch (using "(fs or sale) and 1000cx"),
maybe one or two a year show up in newsgroups.
I wonder how many of them were made?

Bruce Martin wrote:

> > I am planning a project where the palmtop is used to log data and I need
> 3
> > or more 1000cx's (2 meg preferred but 1 acceptable), new or used.  The
> > problem is that we have contacted several suppliers (including Thaddeus),
> > and they have no stock, either new or used.
> >
> > Anyone know where we can find 1000CX's?  Obviously, 200LX can be
> > substituted, but are a tad more expensive!  Is the fact that some
> > suppliers no longer stock the 1000CX a harbinger of problems to come with
> > the 200LX?
>
> If Thaddeus is out of 1000CXs, my next bet would be to try Mr. Palmtop/The
> One Stop Palmtop Shop (http://www.mrpalmtop.com). They advertise new HP
> 1000CX / 2MB RAM Palmtop PC, model F1222A at $429.95 ea.with no mention of
> negative availability. However, you may be able to get 200LX 2MBs at that
> price, especially if you are making a bulk purchase of four units at once.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:34:09 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hi Quinton,


Q: What bugs does the 7.0 upgrade fix?

The most significant:

7.04
1) Prevention of potential PC Card corruption if PC Memory Cards are
swapped while using SC.
2) No more messed up FILER after switching from other sessions to FILER.
However, some users don't like this brute force fix which first opens
and closes Application Manager whenever going back to System Manager.
This fix can be disabled.
3) New user manual (helpful especially to new users)

7.07
1) SC doesn't corrupt 64Meg upgrade drive
2. SC allows more than one database file open in different System
Manager sessions.  Does not allow second Phone, NoteTaker, or World Time
file.  (Previous versions didn't allow multiple APPT files open but
allowed other second database engine files to be open creating the
likelihood of file corruption.)

Anyone who owns 7.04 can email me and I'll send them a new 7.07,
CAROUSEL.PGM, file.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:42:30 -0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX now works with 2400bps!
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Tomas,

 > I just noticed that I can use my 2400bps Apex 6Meg combocard with WWW/LX.
 > I have tried it before but I never gotten it to work with a 2400
 > connection. And if I recall correctly there were others with me that
 > whanted this capability.

I have an old 2400 Megahertzmodem that draws almost no
power. I use it in emergencies when I need to run on batts
and do email. Works fine generally.

In some cases I found it was a bit too slow, and lost its
mind during login. I guess there are some time dependent
processes which may be too demanding for it.

 > Its slow with 2400 but not THAT slow. Its enough if Youre not in a
 > hurry.
 > Now I dont have to carry my Megahertz 14.4k with me all the time.

I carry an Apex 33.6 and the 2400. The apex runs on the
lithiums I also carry.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Subject:      Re: PDF to text for LX
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Jorgen,

 > would be possible- but maybe slow. Anything is possible on the 200LX and
 > as I recall, some time ago it was a discussen on this list if it was
 > possible or not to make 3D games on the 200LX. It must be since I
 > have several old commercial 3D games which runs without a problem- such
 > as Grand Prix, In The Eye Of The Beholder, Bob 1940 e.t.c.

Agree 100%! Chack out d:\bin\maze.exe on the palmtop itself
:-) ... Also, if you solve the maze you get a nice tour of
the Palmtop Hall of Fame, complete with pictures on the
wall <G>...

 > So instead of discussing if it can be done or not, I think that the
 > relevant question is if there is someone with the knowledge that are
 > interested to do such a program?

Aha! The main issue, ideed. The specs are huge. The program
is very large, very detailed and very er... annoying, I
guess, to put together. So perhaps there is someone already
at it. If such a beast appears, the amount of work may be
so large that the author will want to make it commercial.
On the other hand, it may require so much support that no
price can compensate the author for the hassle, so maybe he
will make it freeware after all, you know "take it or leave
it, just don't bug me!" type thing. But then, the effort...
:-) ...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:42:35 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Date Environment Variable
Comments: To: Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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Laurence,

 > >I use a batch file to create a variable in the environment
 > >that corresponds to a date so todays's variable shows:
 > >"990211".
 >
 > Any chance you could post the relevant part of your batch file, I was
 > planning on doing something like this but could not think of how to create
 > the date based environment variable.

The batch file is not mine, I stole it somewhere :) ... But
here it is... Dont try to follow it, it'll rot your mind
instantly. But it works :) ... Some of the comments are
mine.

----------

        @echo off
REM --- GETODAY.BAT
REM --- getoday.bat gets today's date into e-var
REM --- Today in format YYMMDD
        echo. | date > datetmp$.bat
        echo set today=%%4>current.bat
        call datetmp$.bat
        del datetmp$.bat
        del current.bat
        set count=

REM --- Loop1 changes Today to YYYYMMDD
:Loop1
        set old=%Today%
        for %%v in (/%Today%) do set today=%%v
        for %%v in (/%old%) do if '%%v'=='-' goto skip
        for %%v in (/%old%) do if '%%v%today%'=='%old%' set     today=%today%%%v
:skip
REM --- Echo The value of Today is "%Today%"
        set count=%count%x
        if not '%count%'=='xxxxx' goto Loop1

REM --- Loop2 reduces Today to YYMMDD
:Loop2
        for %%v in (/%today%) do set today=%%v
REM --- Echo The value of Today is "%today%"
        set count=%count%x
        if not '%count%'=='xxxxxxxx' goto Loop2
        for %%v in (old count) do set %%v=
REM --- Echo The value of Today is "%today%"

----------

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:42:44 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Hinge too tight
Comments: To: Hans Peter Staber <HPStaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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HP,

 > <I know that usually people compain their palmtop's hinge is
 > not tight enough. I have the opposite problem. It is so
 > tight that a smal line of separation (crack) begins to
 > appear on the back cover, right above the right side of the
 > hinge.
 >
 > So how does one loosen this thingy up?>
 >
 > Apart from the greasy recommendations here is what I did once
 > in order to tighten the hinge :
 >
 > There are four rubber shoes on the back of palmi. Peel them
 > out with a needle. Underneath you'll find screws which hold
 > the case together. Loosen them and put rubber shoes back in
 > place.

I am afraid you missed  two points in my message :) ... I
want to _loosen_ not tighten. I want to act on the hinge,
not the case.

Aside from that, thanks for the tip! ;-)

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:18:35 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Software Carousel questions

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein İmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:34 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Software Carousel questions
>
>
> Hi Quinton,
>
>
> Q: What bugs does the 7.0 upgrade fix?
>
> The most significant:
>
> 7.04
> 1) Prevention of potential PC Card corruption if PC Memory Cards are
> swapped while using SC.
Damn! I think I got bit by this one! My flash card got totalled a while back
and I lost lots of info.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:30:27 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Subject:      Re: 1000CX availability
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> > > I am planning a project where the palmtop is used to log data and I
need
> > 3
> > > or more 1000cx's (2 meg preferred but 1 acceptable), new or used.
The
> > > problem is that we have contacted several suppliers (including
Thaddeus),
> > > and they have no stock, either new or used.
> > >
> > If Thaddeus is out of 1000CXs, my next bet would be to try Mr.
Palmtop/The
> > One Stop Palmtop Shop (http://www.mrpalmtop.com). They advertise new HP
> > 1000CX / 2MB RAM Palmtop PC, model F1222A at $429.95 ea.with no mention
of
> > negative availability. However, you may be able to get 200LX 2MBs at
that
> > price, especially if you are making a bulk purchase of four units at
once.
>
> On used, I checked Ebay, past and present auctions, zero in both
searches.
> With Dejanews.com powersearch (using "(fs or sale) and 1000cx"),
> maybe one or two a year show up in newsgroups.
> I wonder how many of them were made?

I recall reading in the original press release announcing the 1000CX
(available on CI$ HPHAND?) that it was intended to be sold in large lots,
to corporate clients. The idea was that these corporate clients could then
develop their own custom applications to load them with, then deploy the
units for their staff to use, or re-sell them in specialized, vertical
markets.

It may even be the case that HP only built them in lots, when they had an
order to fulfill.

I suppose it's possible that the odd dealer bought 1000CXs in a lot, and
sold them individually as-is. But it's likely that few new ones are
available for sale now, and most used ones were once corporate equipment
turned over to the employees.

How about it, List members? Who has a 1000CX, how did you get it, and whose
has the most recent serial number?

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:30:16 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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I installed QTEXT on my HP100 but am having problems.

Is Hebrew limited to the HP200?

I have a 100LX and have no reference in my manual to Hebrew through Keybez.

Alan

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:46:31 -0600
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Thadeous (sp?) had new / new upgraded and used 1000cx handhelds in their
price list last time i looked.  I think they may purchase lots from HP and
resell
them before/after upgrade.

dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: 1000CX availability


>> > > I am planning a project where the palmtop is used to log data and I
>need
>> > 3
>> > > or more 1000cx's (2 meg preferred but 1 acceptable), new or used.
>The
>> > > problem is that we have contacted several suppliers (including
>Thaddeus),
>> > > and they have no stock, either new or used.
>> > >
>> > If Thaddeus is out of 1000CXs, my next bet would be to try Mr.
>Palmtop/The
>> > One Stop Palmtop Shop (http://www.mrpalmtop.com). They advertise new HP
>> > 1000CX / 2MB RAM Palmtop PC, model F1222A at $429.95 ea.with no mention
>of
>> > negative availability. However, you may be able to get 200LX 2MBs at
>that
>> > price, especially if you are making a bulk purchase of four units at
>once.
>>
>> On used, I checked Ebay, past and present auctions, zero in both
>searches.
>> With Dejanews.com powersearch (using "(fs or sale) and 1000cx"),
>> maybe one or two a year show up in newsgroups.
>> I wonder how many of them were made?
>
>I recall reading in the original press release announcing the 1000CX
>(available on CI$ HPHAND?) that it was intended to be sold in large lots,
>to corporate clients. The idea was that these corporate clients could then
>develop their own custom applications to load them with, then deploy the
>units for their staff to use, or re-sell them in specialized, vertical
>markets.
>
>It may even be the case that HP only built them in lots, when they had an
>order to fulfill.
>
>I suppose it's possible that the odd dealer bought 1000CXs in a lot, and
>sold them individually as-is. But it's likely that few new ones are
>available for sale now, and most used ones were once corporate equipment
>turned over to the employees.
>
>How about it, List members? Who has a 1000CX, how did you get it, and whose
>has the most recent serial number?
>
>Bruce in Toronto
>
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Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Sandisk 48MB CF

> www.shopper.com shows comparative prices for several distributors (including
> HardwareStreet), but the lowest price listed for the card alone was about $123.
> HardwareStreet has it listed for $125.99, but is out of stock anyway.
>
> Did you see the $50 price drop anyplace in particular?  A 48CF for under $100
> would be tempting (based on your $50 price drop against your old total of $150
> with shipping).
>
> - Longden

Go to www.buysoftware.com and look up the TDK 48M CF. I just bought
one last week for $96 something and got it in about three days. I
haven't tried it in the 200lx but CF is pretty standard so it should
work in an ata adaptor. It does work in another companies ata adaptor
in my pc110 and libretto 50ct and compaq armada 4125. Also, when you
fill in the warentee card you can check a box and they will send you
a free ata adaptor since it doesn't come with one. That is a $10-15
dollar value in itself.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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of doing it as a mailing list? So you had the possibility only to read =
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:19:28 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sandisk 48MB CF
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Thanks Peter.

I probably should have been a bit clearer.

I was fishing for the Sandisk 48mb CF card specifically because  a poster had
earlier commented on a significant savings in power consumption compared to the
SimpleTech 40mb flash card that both of us had (something like doubling the
battery life).

No doubt the TDK CF would also work in my 200LX, but I'd like to know how it
compares to the Sandisk (and my SimpleTech) in terms of power usage. I don't
want to get a great deal, but end up no better than before in terms of battery
life.

- Longden





"Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US> on 02/17/99 02:12:40 PM

Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Re: Sandisk 48MB CF




> www.shopper.com shows comparative prices for several distributors (including
> HardwareStreet), but the lowest price listed for the card alone was about
$123.
> HardwareStreet has it listed for $125.99, but is out of stock anyway.
>
> Did you see the $50 price drop anyplace in particular?  A 48CF for under $100
> would be tempting (based on your $50 price drop against your old total of $150
> with shipping).
>
> - Longden

Go to www.buysoftware.com and look up the TDK 48M CF. I just bought
one last week for $96 something and got it in about three days. I
haven't tried it in the 200lx but CF is pretty standard so it should
work in an ata adaptor. It does work in another companies ata adaptor
in my pc110 and libretto 50ct and compaq armada 4125. Also, when you
fill in the warentee card you can check a box and they will send you
a free ata adaptor since it doesn't come with one. That is a $10-15
dollar value in itself.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:00:15 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:11:27 +0100, Christian <jch@dadlnet.dk> wrote:

> Hi all - would it be possible to see this list like a newsgroup instead
> of doing it as a mailing list? So you had the possibility only to read
> the stuff you'd actually need or like to read??

You can just read the archive on the web and that way you could pick and
choose.

73 Jeff

    *=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L #1857 =-=-=-=-=-*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:23:22 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Arthur Rieders <art@HAVENCRAFT.COM>
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From:         Arthur Rieders <art@HAVENCRAFT.COM>
Subject:      200 LX(s) for sale
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At 03:30 PM 2/17/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>I installed QTEXT on my HP100 but am having problems.
>
>Is Hebrew limited to the HP200?
>
>I have a 100LX and have no reference in my manual to Hebrew through Keybez.
>
>Alan
>
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>
>
>

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Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: airport xray machines and data loss
Comments: To: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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> I have put my HP 100 with a flash card through XRay machines dozens of
> times, and have never had a problem.  There have been threads on this
> subject here, and on the HPHAND forum on Compuserve, and the concensus is
> that XRay machines do not cause problems for the HPx00.

Some of the problems blamed on airport xrays are caused by the
magnetic fields of the motors that drive belt that drags your
stuff thru the xray scanner.

I usually ask for my 200LX to be checked separately away from
the scanner.  Usually all they ask is that I turn it on.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:25:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Arthur Rieders <art@HAVENCRAFT.COM>
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From:         Arthur Rieders <art@HAVENCRAFT.COM>
Subject:      200 LX(s) for sale
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Hi,

I have two 200LX's for sale.  At least one of them has the original boxes.
Both have all documentation. Both have factory ac-power supply.  Also Hayes
PCMCIA Data+Fax144 and APEX Data/Fax and cellular 14,400 modem, 14,400
Would like to sell both fairly soon.

E-mail   or  call during the day at (978) 443-5337

Neither has been used for at least 2 years.  No cracking hinges

Thanks

Art Rieders

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:36:52 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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From:         Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
Subject:      FTP/LX - wildcards and directories
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know of a way to transfer more than one file at
a time using FTP/LX? I've tried using wildcards (e.g. *.*),
but they don't appear to work. Also, is there any way to
upload an entire directory without having to manually create
one on the remote site, and then copying across the files?
Or am I just asking for too much?!

Thanks in advance,

 -Mike

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:15:34 -0800
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Subject:      hplx.net and wwwlx
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Hi,

This is wierd... I cannot connect to hplx.net, the connection is made
but stalls out at 2430 bytes everytime. I am using wwwlx on a ds 200lx
and seem to have no problems connecting to any other websites. Any
ideas?

tia,

paul
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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All,

Id been looking for an older omnibook (300,430) to use outdoors where its
reflective screen wouldnt be a problem, and ive come upon a 530 which seems
to have alot in common with the 430 but I cant find any specs on this system
anywhere?  anyone have any info on one of these? or where I may find some.

BTW: HP stops at the 600 on their support web pages.

Dan
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:27:15 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Metricom Ricochet, WWW/LX and the 200LX
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Sharon,

 > The 200LX is my only computer right now, and I'm not sure what NSLOOKUP
 > is (Unix?). Do you know a way I can identify the default gateway with
 > what I've got on hand, namely a 200LX, WWW/LX, NetTamer and various
 > downloaded freeware?

Sorry, I do not know what NSLOOKUP is. And I do not know
the way to id the default gateway. Sorry...

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:27:17 -0800
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Erling,

Another Ricochet name surfaces! Wow!!!

 > Just an FYI...
 > I can access websites, telnet, ftp, etc with NO problem using NetTamer and the 200LX
 > Perhaps there is something to be learned by observing how NetTamer works.
 > Configuring NetTamer was a piece of cake.  No proxies, nothing tricky.

So what did you do? What I posted was a speculation. I may
have posted it as a theory, but I misstated it, I am told.

I am very curious what you did in NetTamer to make it work
with Ricochet! I know several of us are curious! <G>...

Lokks like you are still at Big B! Good thing...

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:45:58 -0600
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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:27:15 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Sorry, I do not know what NSLOOKUP is. And I do not know
> the way to id the default gateway. Sorry...

Isn't is name server lookup? On my UNIX shell account, I can type, for
example:

nslookup dasoft.com

and it will present me with the numerical IP address of dasoft.com, I'll let
all the Unix/Linux experts on the list correct me if I'm wrong <g>.

73 Jeff

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Subject:      Re: Hebrew on the HP
Comments: To: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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->Is Hebrew limited to the HP200?
->I have a 100LX and have no reference in my manual to Hebrew through
->Keybez.

I could find no mention of Hebrew in my 200 LX manual either, but if you
type d:\bin\keybez he    it works!.  Has to be in DOS outside system
manager.  As warned though, it will mess up some of your sorting, so only
use it in a separate SC work area.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:10:44 -0500
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Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:01:11 -0500 (EST)

45m37s ago ...
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Paul Yarnell wrote:

> This is wierd... I cannot connect to hplx.net, the connection is made
> but stalls out at 2430 bytes everytime. I am using wwwlx on a ds 200lx

Yep - same here.  Stops at 2430 bytes with WWW/LX.  It looks like
SOMETHING comes thru after that -- the lights on my external modem
continue flashing, but the count stays frozen.  Tried with UNIX Lynx on
my other account, and had no problems.

Lynx shows that it's HTTP 1.1 not 1.0 so maybe that's part of the
problem.  Some other sites using the 1.1 protocol also give WWW/LX
indigestion  8-(

You might check with Dave Sargeant or Ian Butler, maybe they could
help...   Any ideas, guys??

Later

-Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:17:28 -0500
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: OT:  HP Omnibook 530? anyone have any info on this machine?
Comments: cc: driden@STLNET.COM

   >Id been looking for an older omnibook (300,430) to use outdoors
   >where its reflective screen wouldnt be a problem, and ive come upon
   >a 530 which seems to have alot in common with the 430 but I cant
   >find any specs on this system anywhere?  anyone have any info on
   >one of these? or where I may find some.
   >BTW: HP stops at the 600 on their support web pages.
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:22 +0000

You might have a look at www.eberl.com/omnibook/omnibook.faq

I believe it's a work in progress, but I haven't had a chance to check it
out myself.

There's also supposed to be an archive of the Omnibook mailing list
available thru anonymous FTP at elektro.cmhnet.org...but again I haven't
looked at it myself.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:55:15 -0800
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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Yep - same here.  Stops at 2430 bytes with WWW/LX.  It looks like
> SOMETHING comes thru after that -- the lights on my external modem
> continue flashing, but the count stays frozen.  Tried with UNIX Lynx
> on my other account, and had no problems.

Hmm... this is the first I've heard of this.  Perhaps it's due to the
imagemap we use at the top.  I'll fire up the ol' copy of WWW/LX and see
what's going on.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:27:01 +0000
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One of the features I like most about the 95LX is the Alarm feature on the
Appointment
Book Application.  However, the alarm only goes off five times or so.  I am
looking
for a program that allows me to set an alarm and have it go off ten or
fifteen times
or so.  Or, I am looking for a way to extend the alarm in the Appointment
application.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,

David Ball

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:22:47 EST
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Subject:      SHARP CE-IR1 Printing Interface

   I came across several of these little beasties at my local computer
closeout warehouse for under $20. They are quite small, 90 mm (w) x 90 mm
(d) x 30 mm (h), and self-powered by their own bank of four AA batteries.
On the back they have a female D-sub 25-pin connector.
   The manual states they provide a centronics interface through a D-sub
25-pin male connector and cable to a parallel interface connector
(Amphneol 57-40360).
The infrared specifications are given as peak wavelength: 900 to 1050 nm
with a sub-carrier of 500 khz.
   They are supposed to interface with  the OZ-9000 organizer at a
distance of between 20cm and 80 cm. Probably the SHARP ASK protocol?
   Power consumption is .086 Watts. There is an external connection for a
6 V dc external  adaptor (accessory) but an operating time of 200 hours
with alkaline batteries is claimed. Weight with batteries is 175 g.
   I bought one with the idea of a fast printer connection to my parallel
only Diconix portable. Anyone have any ideas as to whether such a lash-up
can be made to work? Also any interested parties in having me pick up
one, as there are still several l in the bin.
   I opened min up and peaked inside but really have no idea what I was
looking at. . .the board appeared fairly simple, probably an asynchronous
translater of IR to digital.
                                                 Curiously
                                                  Bob Perron

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Date:         Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:14:00 -0800
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HERE IS A TOAST (Get your glass) to THADDEUS COMPUTING,They did an
excellent job on

upgrading my 200LX and repairing my screen. (or replacing) I am
overjoyed!!!!!

 BOY!! THIS 200LX IS RUNING AT WARP SPEED!

AND THE TURN AROUND TIME ONLY THREE(3) DAYS!!

I hope I will live to see the day when THADDEUS COMPUTING AND HEWLETT
PACKARD WILL

COMBINE FORCES TO CREATE A NEW AND INPROVE HP200LX. (MAYBE I AM BEING A
LITTLE IDEALIST)

BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.( WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN ANYWAY)

 BOB ELLIOTT JR

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HATS OFF TO D&A SOFTWARE INC!!!!
 I HAD TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THE DOC'S FOR ABC/LX BATT MONITORING
SOFTWARE, I ALMOST
SEND IT BACK TO THE COMPANY BUT I FAXED THEM MY PROBLEM ON FEB 17,1999
IN THE AM
D&A GOT BACK TO ME ON 17 FEB 1999 IN PM SAME DAY!!! I AM VERY HAPPY AND
SURPRISE
BY TELEPHONE THAT WAS A GREAT SUPPORT.

            YOU GUYS AT D&A ARE A-OK

PS: I AM WRITING THIS TO SHOW SOME PEOPLE THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT CARE
ABOUT THERE'
  CUSTOMERS AND D&A IS ONE OF THEM!!

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:32:53 -0800
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              John Musielewicz <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>
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>I was reading some information about Linux last night, (it
>intrigues me) and it said that HP is adopting it to some degree.
>
>OK, so HP won't be coming out with a DOS based follow-up to
>the 200LX...  but wouldn't it be cool if HP came out with a
>palmtop that came with Linux installed and a suite of apps.
>

Totally possible to do. The low power chips are there. But of course its not a
hardware matter.. its MS Winblows. That is the crux of the matter. HP has
totally sold out to the MS monopoly just like everybody else. I heard the 200LX
is still selling better than CE ... I think I'll upgrade my 200LX to 64 meg.

John

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:38:51 -0500
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There has been a lot of discussion about Outlook on the list, but
I wanted to pass something I found yesterday.  Netscape Calendar
already does file import/export with the HP LX!  For those not
commandeered into Outlook, this is a very viable solution; I
recommend you look into the Netscape calendar system.  Unfortunately,
Netscape does not have the calendar application available on their
Unix products, but the server does run on Solaris (and others, I
believe).  It seems to be a very good product other than that.

--
Clark K. Gaylord
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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:16:40 +1100
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From:         David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
Subject:      Outlook to ADB
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21h03m01s ago ...
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:45:35 -0500 (EST), Ron Tatham <rtatham@ibm.net> =
wrote:

> David,
> either 97 or 98 ok with me.
> Ron

One option I have been toying with is to utilise the connectivity pack
software (which I have already), and this would make the one touch idea
very feasable, and not too much work.

David Ness said he has a perl solution utilising the merge
xlate/facility.

Sean Hoger said he has just about completed a utility to create a cdf
file from outlook which would be compatible with the adbload utility.

I could see that with the program automating the xlate/merge step, as
well, this may be an option.

Problems I can see:

1)  David Ness says the xlate/merge is a little flakey at times, this
is not good for automation.
2)  Can the program "push" the keys for the connectivity software? I
have done this before, but do not know if it can be done for a dos
program running in a dos window.
3)  The cost of the connectivity pack.


If we where to tackle this correctly, and bypass the connectivity pack
idea, we would need a full description of the adb file.  Does anyone
have these details?

Could we get a group of coders to work together on this?  Who would be
interested in donating time/existing source code?

TIA

David Eggins

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:18:56 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Harry Wellner wrote:

> Indeed there was a conducteur in the provence "Limnurg" years
> ago which explored the HP200LX for his private usage. He draw
> the conclusion that there were a lot of possibilities with
> time-tables created in the database mode (!).

I'm sure we can win him for HPLX-L

> Everynight PCMCIA cards are being refreshed at work placed.
> At start of work the conducteurs are plugging in and voila
> new info on board which is offering more info than I have.

Would you mind finding out what kind of PCMCIA cards they use?
If it is Flash or SRAM and which capacity?

> New machines ? Not seen them sofar. But will ask ofcourse.

Which model is currently used? 100LX, 200LX or 1000LX?

> Maybe I am wrong but my feeling was that private information
> starage on the HP200LX was allowed in order to encourage the
> usage among the "older" conducteurs (always the backlight
> reading problem was there > 50 yr). So I believe that this

If I remember right, the application was written in 80x25 text
mode. Should not be a big problem to rewrite it for use in the
much better readable 64*18 zoom mode.

If the IT departement needs technical assistance in how to do
that, I would volunteer ;-)

My last program LxTel runs in 64x18 text mode on the palmtop
and in a centered 64x18 window within 80x25 on any desktop.
(Just in case the program is used on multiple platforms)

Please let us know your further findings about this biggest
palmtop user group of the world.

Stefan

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:51:07 -0500
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              Ron Beckley <rbeckley@SHORE.NET>
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Dan, They are all about the same except the 300 is a 386 and the rest are
486's with various size drives and ram capacity.  The 300 and 425 have the
applications, Windows, Word, etc., in ROM so more drive space is available.
The 530 is a 486SX/33.

I have a 425 with 40 meg HD and 6 meg ram in very good condition if you are
interested.

Ron Beckley
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 9:23 PM
Subject: OT: HP Omnibook 530? anyone have any info on this machine?


>All,
>
>Id been looking for an older omnibook (300,430) to use outdoors where its
>reflective screen wouldnt be a problem, and ive come upon a 530 which seems
>to have alot in common with the 430 but I cant find any specs on this
system
>anywhere?  anyone have any info on one of these? or where I may find some.
>
>BTW: HP stops at the 600 on their support web pages.
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:11:24 EST
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Hi fellow list members:

I'm auctioning off a great HP200LX package on eBay.  There is less than 2 days
left to the auction.  If you are interested place a bid.

Here is the link:  <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-
cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=66626312">eBay item 66626312 (Ends 02/19/99
20:38:56 PS...</A>

E Mail me with questions

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:04:00 -0800
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     I loaded the Cpack200 yesterday onto my secure NT system. Other than
     having to load to the F(network) drive and then copying to the C drive
     in an area that I can change(the system locks out the C root directory
     here at work), It loaded fine and is working at 115k with no problems.
     On load it APPEARS to load the TSR 5.0, but as laplink will not
     communicate, I don't think it realy is loading it. The only thing that
     I need to watch is that nothing else i open when I try to DL/UL as it
     seems to interfere with COM 2.

     Thanks, Kurt for your help

     Joe Buford:-{>}


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Author:  kjhmdjd@ix.netcom.com at mime
Date:    2/18/99 6:56 AM


You're certainly welcome, if it's any help to you.  I've found that even on
my PII - 400, the CPack runs awfully slow in the DOS box.  I'm not sure that
reinstalling from floppies will make a difference as the CPack doesn't write
anything to the system files, and the Windows interface to LapLink remote
won't run under NT because it requires the DOS TSR to be loaded.

Again, good luck.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 1:04 PM
To: kjhmdjd@ix.netcom.com
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     Thanks Kurt,

     I had been running fine with my 100lx on a windows3.1 setup. When the
     co went to NT I found that it would only work intermittently at 115k,
     always at 19.6k. I transferred the loaded program to the NT(rather
     than reloading from FFD) and that's the way it worked. Unfortunately
     the CO has the system locked out from any changes to the system
     setups.

     After your post, I started looking at the setup for CPack and found
     that if I closed everything that it worked fine at 115k.

     I'm now thinking that I can load the 200lx CPack and get the 200lx
     functionality under NT. I'll let you know!

     Thanks for your help!!

     Joe Buford:-{>}


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Well, I remember trying to use Netscape Calendar with my APPT.ADB
file a few versions of Netscape ago. It resulted in an heartwarming
`Unexpected Service Error: Module <HP100SPT.CPP>, Label: 780 Service
error: #0x13223'

Needless to say, this was unencouraging enough so I gave up on the
theory that if Netscape couldn't give me a better error message than
that, they hadn't used this part of their product enough, and I didn't
want to be the one to debug it for them.

Have you actually used this?

Clark Gaylord wrote:
>
> There has been a lot of discussion about Outlook on the list, but
> I wanted to pass something I found yesterday.  Netscape Calendar
> already does file import/export with the HP LX!  For those not
> commandeered into Outlook, this is a very viable solution; I
> recommend you look into the Netscape calendar system.  Unfortunately,
> Netscape does not have the calendar application available on their
> Unix products, but the server does run on Solaris (and others, I
> believe).  It seems to be a very good product other than that.
>
> --
> Clark K. Gaylord
> Blacksburg, Virginia USA
> cgaylord@vt.edu

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david.eggins@usa.net wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Problems I can see:
>
> 1)  David Ness says the xlate/merge is a little flakey at times, this
> is not good for automation.
>

Since I am the `quotee' here, let me correct the record slightly. What
I said (or at least what I _meant_ to say) was that Xlate/Merge had
poor error-reporting characteristics. If you screw up an entry it
doesn't say much about what is wrong. For example if you gave it a
time like "15:00" instead of "1500" it might just say `Blah" about
the particular line.

As a result of this, though, I _do not_ think that `this is not good
for automation'. What I _do_ think is that you ought to build in some
facility to `proof' the input records for correctness before handing
them to Xlate/Merge. I have no idea what all of the rules of Xlate/Merge
are, but I doubt if they are very complex.

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I received the following yesterday from M. Cordrey (mcordrey@perl.sdsu.edu)
but it doesn't seem to have made it to the List, so here goes...

---cut here---
We just got a few quotes for 1000cx's through a local retailer for Sokkia
-a surveying/GPS equipment firm.  From what i understand they are still
widely used in surveying, GPS applications as well as in forestry.  their
url is http://www.sokkia.com/
---cut here---

Bruce in Toronto

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My copy of the Acecard3 driver has become corrupted, and I have no back-up.
Can some kind soul help me out?

Please note that I need the version 3, as the older Acecard.com just
doesn't seem to like my 10 MB Viking Type II.

Thanks in advance,
Bruce in Toronto
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The server was down for a bit yesterday... it should be fine now.
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I am not sure.  I ran it on my PC and it worked fine.  I don't run these
on the plamtop because I have only 2mb.  Try to see if there is a
problem with adbdump, your appt file, or if it adbdump just cannot run
on the palmtop.

Greg Dwyer wrote:
>
> Adbdump sounds like it is what I need. I tried to run it on my appointment
> file but keep getting a memory allocation error even if I exit all
> application and start at the DOS prompt. Do you know what would cause that?
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
> PGP public key location -  www.privacy.com.au
>

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Phil, reason i was so slow in my reply i've been letting the program run a
few days. i think i found out the problem. I had the tracking program
installed in my C: drive and when i finished using it for the evening i shut
it off. When i tried to run the prgram next day everthing would lockup and i
would have to remove all the batteries and then it went back to factory
defaults (loosing any data i had in there) i think what was happening....
like you said. Even though the palmtop was shut off, the program was still
trying to do something in the background updating satellite times etc.
I now have the tracking program on my SRAM card and when i've finished for
the evening, i shut the palmtop down and remove the SRAM card. Next morning,
just insert the SRAM card and run the tracking program. This so far is
working very well no crashes (touch wood). Will let you know if it crashes
again. Thanks for the help. Scott


>A "shot-in-the-dark" possibility... How does that program manage time?
>Does it work "ok" in the afternoon and fail in the morning(s)?  Does it
>have an internal timing thing that "thinks" it's been running (allowing
>that palmtops are never really "off") for too long with out GPS
>reference?  That "stack failure" message indicates (at least to me, an
>non-programmer) that some memory array, or environment variable might be
>too small.
>
>Sorry if none of this helps, good luck!
>
>Phil
>
>>
>>I have had my hp95lx for a couple of weeks. I bought it to use while mobile
>>for tracking sateiites. I loaded the tracking program (using KERMIT) and it
>>works fine with the internal (AA) batteries or with the AC adaptor. But when
>>i took it for a mobile test a few days ago, after pressing F4 it run fine
>>for a few minutes then the screen went blank, i could not turn it OFF but
>>could see it was still ON. I disconnected all the batteries and it reset to
>>factory defaults. Got home loaded the program again  and it worked fine.
>>Left it for 24hrs. tried to run it again this morning and got a message:
>>FATAL: Internal Stack Failure
>>press Enter to reboot.
>>I tried Enter and it had locked up, so had to remove all the batteries again.
>>What does the Message mean, and am i doing something wrong. Any help will be
>>appreciated. Scott
>>
>>
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              "Davies, Donald" <DDavies@CLARIAN.COM>
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David,
        I would like to help with this Beta Test.  I have Outlook 97 at
work, I doubt they will upgrade for just me.

Don Davies
ddavies@clarian.com

> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:45:29 +1100
> From:    David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
> Subject: Outlook to adb (was $250 fund for programming)
>
> To get an idea of how needed this is, could you please send me an email
> if you are interested in this utility.  I will need a small number of
> beta testers.
>
> I have Outlook 98. How many other versions are needed to be supported?
>
> Would/Could you move to Outlook 98 in order to use this utility?
>
> David Eggins.
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:39:05 -0800
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Mike,

ftp/LX does not support widl cards, MGET and MPUT, nor
directory transfer. Sorry.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:38:39 -0800
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 > Is there anyway to setup any of the various networking programs,
 > WWW/LX and/or WATTCP/LXTCP  to work on a network through a proxy?

WWW/LX Plus - yes. Check out WWW.CFG... I have no idea
about the other.
  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Jeff,,

 > I have always been puzzled by this.  Using Software Carousel on the HP
 > 200LX, to switch from one work area to another, one needs to
 > simultaneously hold the CTRL and the appropriate number key for it to
 > work.  I have buddy on the HP which allows the HP to "remember" the CTRL

Run SCCONFIG and selectother keys. Mine are Fn 7, Fn8, Fn9,
Fn4, Fn5...

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 > I recently saw on the list that someone had a list of keyboard scan codes
 > for the 200lx.  I would greatly appreciate having that sent off list. I
 > have been using different utilities to find the codes but it would be nice
 > to have as a reference. Thanks  -MC

I have a 6K program that will tell you the scan code of any
key pressed on the keyboard. Let me know if you want it.

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Bruce,

Re drive A: and B: -

 > This enables you to, for example, copy files from one diskette/flashcard to
 > another by swapping diskettes/flashcards at the familiar "Insert disk for
 > drive b: and press any key when ready" prompt.

This really works? You mean I can copy from A:\ some file
to B: and it'll ask me to plug the other "floppy" in there?
I imagine it would, although I never tried it!
Fascinating... Well, I just tried it, and it says that
drive B: is not ready, Abort, Retry, or cancel...

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Sean,

 > Has anyone used GP from a phone (i.e. hotel room) where a long dial string
 > including a credit card number was needed.  I tried it yesterday, and
 > couldn't fit the number in the field.
 >
 > Here is a sample phone number:
 >
 > 8,,AreaCode+PhoneNumber,,,,,,,16DigitCreditCardNumber

It's a modem limitation, nothing to do with programs...

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Alan,

On 100LX you should have same Keybez program as 200LX.

Run Keybez He

Then press CTRL and machine toggles to Hebrew. Also files
are saved with cookie dates etc... :) ...

I use Qtext2 in a SC WA. Works nicely... But I have to
learn the kbd somehow...

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 > 1999-02-12-21:18:08 A Meshar:
 > > Lithium Ion batteries have a funny discharge curve.
 >
 > Are you really talking about Li-ions, or about the Energizer disposable
 > single-use Lithiums?

Oops! Thank you for catching this... I am NOT talking about
Li-Ion - they won't fit in the palmtop anyway because of
size, and they are 3.6V.

I meant the gold and red Lithiums - Energizers. Sorry...

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Just for future reference, you should almost never have to remove
the batteries (and lose the ramdisk) to reset an LX.  Ctrl-LeftShift-On
is the hard reset sequence, just like hitting the reset button on a
desktop machine.  This should produce the prompt "Initialize ram disk?" to
which you should answer 'N'.

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I've been out of school for two semesters, and they've decided to yank my
account on the machine I had my web pages on.  :(

I made a copy a few months back on Geocities, but I didn't realize now
annoying Geocities was until I enabled Java, so I'm looking for a new home.

But the Geocities URL is http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Station/4773

Oh well...

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:52:49 +0000
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Avi - I would appreciate this program too. I want to make some POSTLX
macros.

Thanks.

Mikhail

>
> I have a 6K program that will tell you the scan code of any
> key pressed on the keyboard. Let me know if you want it.
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>

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It certainly `used to' work under DOS, though I must admit that
the idea of using a single floppy machine to copy floppy -> floppy
tended to pretty much die with the arrival of HDs. It was so much
faster to copy Floppy ->HD and then HD -> floppy than it was to
use copy A: => B: that it's usefulness was only short lived (_very_
short lived). Of course it was also somewhat error prone, as if you
ever got mixed up about just exactly which disk was A: and which
was B:, trouble was not far around the corner...

A Meshar wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> Re drive A: and B: -
>
>  > This enables you to, for example, copy files from one diskette/flashcard to
>  > another by swapping diskettes/flashcards at the familiar "Insert disk for
>  > drive b: and press any key when ready" prompt.
>
> This really works? You mean I can copy from A:\ some file
> to B: and it'll ask me to plug the other "floppy" in there?
> I imagine it would, although I never tried it!
> Fascinating... Well, I just tried it, and it says that
> drive B: is not ready, Abort, Retry, or cancel...
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 03:52:05 +1100
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At 05:38 AM 18/02/99 -0500, you wrote:
>There has been a lot of discussion about Outlook on the list, but
>I wanted to pass something I found yesterday.  Netscape Calendar
>already does file import/export with the HP LX!  For those not
>commandeered into Outlook, this is a very viable solution; I

Hi all

Is there an App/way that outlook and Netscape calender can be synced so
..Outlook..Netscape..HPLX.

Isnt Netscape source freely available?  Maybe the code could be emulated for
a Win Based app??

Just a couple of thoughts re Outlook..Hplx

Any comments?

Russell

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I have a new HP 82241A AC Power adapter designed to be used with the HP 95LX.

If you are interested, you can bid on this item at my eBay auction.  The link
to the auction is below.

 <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-
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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:07:57 -0500
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              "Kirby Joseph S." <kirby@NS.UTK.EDU>
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Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@powerup.com.au>
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> Isnt Netscape source freely available?  Maybe the code could be emulated for
> a Win Based app??

Netscape's calender is licensed from CS&T and is not publicly available.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:42:18 -0600
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> I have had HPLX's since the HP95LX days and currently have a HP100LX. =
One
> problem I am finding is that repeat appointments I put in 5 years ago =
are
> dropping off without me knowing. Unless you actually open the repeat =
option
> and check the end date, the appointment will stop repeating.
>
> Does anyone have a way of identifying the last repeat appointment or a
> program, like gdbdump, that will identify all repeating appointments =
with
> their start and finish date and dump them to an ASCII file so I can =
quickly
> scan down the list.
>
> I looked at gdbdump and it tells you if it is a repeating appointment =
but
> does not give you any date information.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au

Greg,

I have my appointment books by the year.  At the beggining of each new
year, I copy the last years file and name it for the new year, then I
remove all previous years entries.  I do this to keep the file sizes
smaller, which translates to less possible data corruption, the larger
the file the more chance for corruption.

After I create the new file I edit all my repeating occurances, and
make the ending date another 5 years out.  I don't have that many
repeating occurances that editing them takes more than a half hour or
so.  I don't know if this would work for you, but this is what I do.



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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:42:22 -0600
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> Ted, Thanks for the comments on the hinge. Looks like maybe
> this is gonna be a tough one if it does not work itself
> well. I guess I'll put a drop and work it and wait a day
> for the oil to spread. Then maybe another, and so on...
> Maybe you just did not work it long enough, then it was
> suddenly too much...
>
> Troubles, troubles... Fortunately it is one of my backup
> machines... Thanks again for the experience you provided.
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨

Avi,

I meant to reply to your original posting a while back but somehow I
got distracted.  I had one of my previous palmtops that I got from the
HP extended warranty exchange program, that had a extremly tight hinge.
I was concerned that the case around the hinge would develop a hinge
crack so I lubed the hinge with a drop of WD-40.

This made opening and closing the hinge much easier.  My plan was if
the hinge got too loose, that I would try to reverse the WD-40 effect
by using a drop of alchol on the hinge, but fortunatly the hinge never
got too loose.  The reason I choose WD-40 rather than silicon or light
machine oil, is for its penitrating abilities.

I found this to work very well, and posted a message to the list about
what I did, and why.  In my posting I asked why with all the talk of
hinge cracks, why I have never read any postings about



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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:39:15 -0800
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David,

 > Well, I remember trying to use Netscape Calendar with my APPT.ADB
 > file a few versions of Netscape ago. It resulted in an heartwarming
 > `Unexpected Service Error: Module <HP100SPT.CPP>, Label: 780 Service
 > error: #0x13223'

If you have later versions of NS Pro it may be worthwhile
to try it out again. It worked "out of the box" for me.

 > Have you actually used this?

I have actually used it three-four times. My work is
totally non-desktop-centric, so it is an nice intellectual
exercise for me, I just don't need it. So I am not using
now, but when I tried it it worked just fine, as I said. It
took me a half a lifetime to d/l the big NS Pro (17MB).
Installation was rather rapid, and then I browsed quickly,
then went to the calendar and it worked right away,
uploading, add appts, and then d/l to palmtop.

Someone else said they had problems with it, I did not
experience it.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:39:12 -0800
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Clark,

 > There has been a lot of discussion about Outlook on the list, but
 > I wanted to pass something I found yesterday.  Netscape Calendar
 > already does file import/export with the HP LX!  For those not

You need to download Netscape Professional. A trial version
available on Netscape servers, but it is about 17MB and it
is limited to US customers only, if you take the 128-bit
version (US Government worries about the Communist
insurrection <G>... or some spying, or whatever...)

The stuff works nicely, but I find their desktop calendar
to be eh, well... "counterintuitive" is too mild, it is
more like "user hostile" :) --- But the menus specifically
mention HP 100/200LX and the ADB can either reside on the
desktop itself (you shuttle it around with some
connectivity) or directly on the palmtop (but you must be
connected via serial, of course. The Magic version is not
out yet! :) ...)

It is a nice bonus, because it can also mean you can
coordinate a workgroup's calendar, and I believe they even
talk about being able to do it with remote users over the
web...

 > commandeered into Outlook, this is a very viable solution; I
 > recommend you look into the Netscape calendar system.  Unfortunately,
 > Netscape does not have the calendar application available on their
 > Unix products, but the server does run on Solaris (and others, I
 > believe).  It seems to be a very good product other than that.

Did you check if the Calendar is in the Professional
version for Unix (is there such a beast anyway?)

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:04:26 +0100
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Subject:      Digital Camera and 200LX page (Came for DOS readme)
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Hi all,

Haven't seen this on the list yet? Maybe worth a link from the SUPER site?


http://www.butaman.ne.jp:8000/~tsuruzoh/Computer/Soft/CameDos/readme-e.html


br

Franklin

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Mikhail,

 > Avi - I would appreciate this program too. I want to make some POSTLX
 > macros.

Watch the mailbox.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:27:28 -0600
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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Just thought I'd toss this question to the list -

What entry-level language would you consider to be the most useful to
the non-programmer (amateur) who wants to create the odd utility on the
LX?

Basic (Quick, Power, etc)
Visual Basic for Dos
Rexx (for Dos)
Perl ?
Tipi (has anyone used this?)

I picked these because I either own them or have the shareware version.
I don't have alot of time to play around and see which is easiest, most
versatile, whatever.

I have only one project in mind - the creation of a program that would
read a large text file and display the text for that day.  (The original
Daily Text program I have on my desktop is windows only but I could use
the plain text file that comes with it on my LX if I had a dos version.)
So what does the list think?  I only have a beginners grasp of pc
programming.

Thanks!

Terry Owen
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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:52:05 -0500
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I'd say Perl.
  1: It runs on a 200Lx just fine, I use it all the time;
  2: Pushing text around is the real original purpose of the
     language, so it has lots of facilities for that;
  3: It is free.

OTOH, if you already know something, I'd choose that over starting
anew anytime, unless you are interested in the mental exercise of
learning something new.

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd toss this question to the list -
>
> What entry-level language would you consider to be the most useful to
> the non-programmer (amateur) who wants to create the odd utility on the
> LX?
>
> Basic (Quick, Power, etc)
> Visual Basic for Dos
> Rexx (for Dos)
> Perl ?
> Tipi (has anyone used this?)
>
> I picked these because I either own them or have the shareware version.
> I don't have alot of time to play around and see which is easiest, most
> versatile, whatever.
>
> I have only one project in mind - the creation of a program that would
> read a large text file and display the text for that day.  (The original
> Daily Text program I have on my desktop is windows only but I could use
> the plain text file that comes with it on my LX if I had a dos version.)
> So what does the list think?  I only have a beginners grasp of pc
> programming.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Terry Owen
> owen6511@earthlink.net
>
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I'd say Perl.
  1: It runs on a 200Lx just fine, I use it all the time;
  2: Pushing text around is the real original purpose of the
     language, so it has lots of facilities for that;
  3: It is free.

OTOH, if you already know something, I'd choose that over starting
anew anytime, unless you are interested in the mental exercise of
learning something new.

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd toss this question to the list -
>
> What entry-level language would you consider to be the most useful to
> the non-programmer (amateur) who wants to create the odd utility on the
> LX?
>
> Basic (Quick, Power, etc)
> Visual Basic for Dos
> Rexx (for Dos)
> Perl ?
> Tipi (has anyone used this?)
>
> I picked these because I either own them or have the shareware version.
> I don't have alot of time to play around and see which is easiest, most
> versatile, whatever.
>
> I have only one project in mind - the creation of a program that would
> read a large text file and display the text for that day.  (The original
> Daily Text program I have on my desktop is windows only but I could use
> the plain text file that comes with it on my LX if I had a dos version.)
> So what does the list think?  I only have a beginners grasp of pc
> programming.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Terry Owen
> owen6511@earthlink.net

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can i get a copy too

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:11 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: keyboard scan codes
>
>
> Mikhail,
>
>  > Avi - I would appreciate this program too. I want to make
> some POSTLX
>  > macros.
>
> Watch the mailbox.
>
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I would like to thank whoever raised this subject.  I had a number of
repeating appts that Would have lapsed this year.  I hope some did not
slip off last year.

As someone mentioned, I opened the calendar and found them and manually
extended most of them.

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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, David Ness wrote:

> I'd say Perl.
>   1: It runs on a 200Lx just fine, I use it all the time;
>   2: Pushing text around is the real original purpose of the
>      language, so it has lots of facilities for that;
>   3: It is free.
>
> OTOH, if you already know something, I'd choose that over starting
> anew anytime, unless you are interested in the mental exercise of
> learning something new.

Perl can be a bit tricky to master, especially if you don't know the
C-like syntax. I'd suggest that the original poster start with SED (the
Stream Editor) and Awk, to get aqainted with regular expressions (a _very_
powerful string manipulation tool) and, to some extent, the C-like syntax.

Bear in mind that SED and Awk were designed specifically for scanning and
altering text files and SED isn't really a programming language per seİ*¨.
Still, for the project the original poster described, Awk should be able
to do it nicely, if slowly (but that's another matter).

Awk and SED can both be on SUPER (www.palmtop.net).

On the other hand, I'm sure the Rexx crowd would suggest Rexx. I have not
had much experience with this programming language, but its Pascal like
syntax may be easier to learn than Perl, especially if you already know
BASIC. Both Rexx and Perl are neat and flexible programming languages and
people are using both on the LX with great results.

I don't know where you can find Rexx, though. There are several commercial
Rexx versions that will run on the LX, and also free implementations. One
is called BRexx and I'm sure one of the Rexxers will post a link to it...
(Walter?)


İ*¨
Some may disagree on this. However, to all intends and purposes, SED
shouldn't really be considered a programming language. I have seen complex
programs, such as a calculator (SED doesn't have any arithmetic functions)
written in SED, but it wasn't pretty and didn't serve any purpose other
than prove it could be done :-)


Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:11:55 -0500
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02h01m35s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Franklin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Haven't seen this on the list yet? Maybe worth a link from the SUPER =
site?
>
> http://www.butaman.ne.jp:8000/~tsuruzoh/Computer/Soft/CameDos/readme-e.h=
tml

     I think there was post a while ago, but it deserves bringing up
again! I use it w/ my EPSON PhotoPC 600 all the time (well, when I'm
not using a CF anyway ;-) )

     Now if some clever palmtop programmer would write an LXBatch
file....

Cheers,


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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:44:10 GMT
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> ->I switch SC areas by pressing Shift-F1 (or F2, etc).  The keys can be
> ->reassigned so maybe you changed them from the Shift defaults to use
> ->Ctrl instead?
>
> Same question.  Do you use Buddy and if so will it change workareas if you
> press Shift-F1/F2 in "sequence" or do you need to hold both keys down
> simultaneously.

No.  I do not run Buddy.  The Shift Keys are 'sticky' so I don't
need to hold them down; the Ctrl are NOT sticky so you need to
hold them.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:53:12 -0800
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I have 2 PCMCIA type II cards (one is the EXP modem with
8MB drive) and 1 Compact Flash card for my 200LX and am
looking into getting a PCMCIA Drive to attach to a PC for
file transfers.

Any advice on which brand/models are good/reliable/user friendly?

External would be nice, if there is one that will take both size cards.
(The only one I have seen is CF only)

As far as compatibility on the PC side, my home computer is Win 3.1
and at work is NT 4.1.

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This is a particularly interesting response to me, as I always found
AWK a bit AWKward, and was vastly relieved when Perl showed up on the
horizion. I guess it's just proof that what is easy for one of us may
be hard for another, and vice-versa. Perhaps I am a departed `C'-er
at heart, but I sure found Perl a lot easier to learn than Awk, and
although I learned Regular Expressions from some of Ken Thompson's
implementations back in the 1960s, I still find them too complex
(although incredibly powerful) to suggest to someone who characterizes
themself as a `non-programmer'.

I guess it's just proof (as though it were needed) that YMMV.

Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> <snip of my earlier>
>
> Perl can be a bit tricky to master, especially if you don't know the
> C-like syntax. I'd suggest that the original poster start with SED (the
> Stream Editor) and Awk, to get aqainted with regular expressions (a _very_
> powerful string manipulation tool) and, to some extent, the C-like syntax.
>
> Bear in mind that SED and Awk were designed specifically for scanning and
> altering text files and SED isn't really a programming language per seİ*¨.
> Still, for the project the original poster described, Awk should be able
> to do it nicely, if slowly (but that's another matter).
>
> Awk and SED can both be on SUPER (www.palmtop.net).
>
> <snip of other interesting opinions>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:27:10 -0500
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>ftp/LX does not support wild cards, MGET
>and MPUT, nor directory transfer. Sorry.

Seeing as ftp/LX is free, I guess I can overlook it!

I don't suppose that anyone knows how to FTP when connected
via France Explorer...?! Or should I just accept that if you
want something done, you should only rely on an HP
palmtop?!

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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Seeing as ftp/LX is free, I guess I can overlook it!

I do believe that LXFTP will do recursive transfers though... or is that
just the server version?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:55:09 +0000
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I don't want to compete with Avi, but I just finished a
keyboard scan code utility which also explains how to bypass
light sleep mode while checking the keyboard. Get it from

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/scancode.zip

There where problems concerning the DEL key scancode on
Omnibooks in conjunction with LxPic. Therefore I wrote it.
Comes with source code.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:51:00 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Rexx is EXCELLENT because it was designed for the novice.  You
don't need to be worried declaring variables, Rexx figures out
what they are by how you use them.  You also get the benefit of
a structured language; no GOTOs like basic.

The penalty is speed, Rexx is an interpreted language and isn't
very speedy; however speed is not an important matter in many
programs.

I've been writing Rexx for about 15 years on IBM's VM/CMS OS.
I've been very productive and I owe a lot of thanks to ease of
learning and using Rexx.

cheers... Russ

> What entry-level language would you consider to be the most useful to
> the non-programmer (amateur) who wants to create the odd utility on the
> LX?
>
> Basic (Quick, Power, etc)
> Visual Basic for Dos
> Rexx (for Dos)
> Perl ?
> Tipi (has anyone used this?)

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:06 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Other Alarm Programs for the 95LX...

David Ball writes:

  I am
> looking
> for a program that allows me to set an alarm and have it go off ten or
> fifteen times
> or so.  Or, I am looking for a way to extend the alarm in the Appointment
> application.
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>

What about using the custom alarm feature?

Ted

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> Tipi (has anyone used this?)

I forgot all about that one.  Met the author at a few Seattle usergroup
meetings but have not seen him in quite a while.  He wrote some
interesting things with it and as I recall sponsored a contest.

Have you also considered lxbatch which should be on super??

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:31:16 -0600
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Subject:      OutLook beta testing

  I would also be interested in Outlook beta testing. I am using the
Outlook 97 from Office 97.

  I also have been playing with the calendar program from Day Timer which
has excellent capabilities to and from ASCII, Outlook, ACT, and Schedule+.
The Day Timer product also does networked group calendars without requiring
Microsoft Exchange (and an Exchange server) like Outlook does. The Day
Timer product is also not too expensive (~$40-50). Day Timer currently
synchronizes with Sharp Wizards, Palm Pilots, CE, and Puma; But alas not my
trusty HP200LX.

Mark Matlock

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:59:43 -0800
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              "Erling, Marshall N" <Marshall.Erling@PSS.BOEING.COM>
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I only provided very minimal configuration information to NetTamer.
basically just a DNS name is needed for web surfing AFAIK.

Yes the interface of NetTamer is confusing and cumbersome, but it does the trick.
As far as the script goes... just a DELAY 10 and PPP is all you need.

there was some talk about nslookup, etc. on a related thread.

I also run Linux with my Ricochet at home, so if necessary I can do some further probing.

Another potential gotcha is the need for a null modem adapter if you're using the standard HP cable to interface to the modem.

  .M
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Erling,

Another Ricochet name surfaces! Wow!!!

 > Just an FYI...
 > I can access websites, telnet, ftp, etc with NO problem using NetTamer and the 200LX
 > Perhaps there is something to be learned by observing how NetTamer works.
 > Configuring NetTamer was a piece of cake.  No proxies, nothing tricky.

So what did you do? What I posted was a speculation. I may
have posted it as a theory, but I misstated it, I am told.

I am very curious what you did in NetTamer to make it work
with Ricochet! I know several of us are curious! <G>...

Lokks like you are still at Big B! Good thing...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:04:32 -0800
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>Subject: Re: 1000CX availability
>
>How about it, List members? Who has a 1000CX, how did you get it, and whose
>has the most recent serial number?
>
>Bruce in Toronto
>


I bought mine late in '87... Serno SG70901153... Bought it from CDW
(www.cdw.com)...

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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Andrew Prince wrote:

> I bought mine late in '87... Serno SG70901153... Bought it from CDW
> (www.cdw.com)...

Whoa!  Those came out a long time before I thought!  :)

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What Rexx do you run on the 200, and where can it be found?

Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> Rexx is EXCELLENT because it was designed for the novice.  You
> don't need to be worried declaring variables, Rexx figures out
> what they are by how you use them.  You also get the benefit of
> a structured language; no GOTOs like basic.
>
> The penalty is speed, Rexx is an interpreted language and isn't
> very speedy; however speed is not an important matter in many
> programs.
>
> I've been writing Rexx for about 15 years on IBM's VM/CMS OS.
> I've been very productive and I owe a lot of thanks to ease of
> learning and using Rexx.
>
> cheers... Russ
>

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F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > Tipi (has anyone used this?)
>
> I forgot all about that one.  Met the author at a few Seattle usergroup
> meetings but have not seen him in quite a while.  He wrote some
> interesting things with it and as I recall sponsored a contest.
>

Do you have a reference, the first few hundred AltaVista references
are all to Native American Housing Structures or are in Italian rather than about computer
languages...

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Date:         Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:01:27 -0800
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TWO CORRECTIONS!!!!


OOOPS!!!!

1000cx, and in '97!!!

>
>Date:    Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:04:32 -0800
>From:    Andrew Prince <aprince@SPIRITONE.COM>
>Subject: 100cx...
>I bought mine late in '87... Serno SG70901153... Bought it from CDW
>(www.cdw.com)...
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:15 -0800
>From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
>Subject: Re: 100cx...
>
>Whoa!  Those came out a long time before I thought!  :)
>

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> > Seeing as ftp/LX is free, I guess I can overlook it!
>
> I do believe that LXFTP will do recursive transfers though... or is that
> just the server version?

LXFTP will do both MGET (get via wildcards) and my new invention RGET
(get recursively).  See http://lxtcp.hplx.net/lxtcp.html to download
LXTCP 1.0 (which includes LXFTP, LXNNTP, LXPOP, LXPING, etc.)

MGET & MDIR are functions of the client, not the server.

For a free FTP server, you can use the FTP server in LXTELNET (a
telnet client which happens to include an FTP server, and which is
currently in beta testing).  See http://lxtcp.hplx.net/beta.html

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Steve Dowell wrote:
>
> I was reading some information about Linux last night, (it
> intrigues me) and it said that HP is adopting it to some degree.
>
> OK, so HP won't be coming out with a DOS based follow-up to
> the 200LX...  but wouldn't it be cool if HP came out with a
> palmtop that came with Linux installed and a suite of apps.
>
> Steve

It would be cool Steve!!

        Bob

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09h04m21s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:38:41 -0800 (PST), A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> =
wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Re drive A: and B: -

> This really works? You mean I can copy from A:\ some file
> to B: and it'll ask me to plug the other "floppy" in there?
> I imagine it would, although I never tried it!
> Fascinating... Well, I just tried it, and it says that
> drive B: is not ready, Abort, Retry, or cancel...
>


Hello Avi,

I rember that with DOS, you could do:

copy a:\*.* a:\*.*

this would prompt you to insert new disk when it had read all files.


Also using dos, you could dynamically redirect a: to b: on the fly. If
you ve one floppy disk only, and it is drive a:, just typing b: at the
command prompt would first ask you to insert a disk, and there it is,
your floppy disk is now drive b:.  Same to go back to a:


HTH

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:24:41 +10
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hi,
I'm on the market for a 32 or 48Mg compact  card for the LX.
What is the best price I can find,
and witch model is beter.

regards from australia
regards
Alain

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has I said,
I'm looking for a card for my hungry LX.
I will prefere an compact with adaptor,
but an ata could be find.
is any one have one for sale?
regards
Alain

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Subject:      Re: Hebrew on the HP

Alan Peres writes:
> I have a 100LX and have no reference in my manual to Hebrew through Keybez.

There is NO mention of Hebrew in the HP200LX manual either, but if you follow
the directions for keybez you will find it there. I don't know if it is also
in the HP100LX, but it wont hurt (much  ;) to look.

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I have some good news, and some bad news :)

Good News: The newest FTP/LX is capable of MPUT and MGET.

Bad News: It is not yet available, and it also requires a
newer version of WWW.EXE, also not yet available.

No estimated date of release so save the time and don't
ask. I will certainly announce it here...

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Stefan,

 > I don't want to compete with Avi, but I just finished a
 > keyboard scan code utility which also explains how to bypass
 > light sleep mode while checking the keyboard. Get it from
 >
 > http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/scancode.zip
 >
 > There where problems concerning the DEL key scancode on
 > Omnibooks in conjunction with LxPic. Therefore I wrote it.
 > Comes with source code.

No competition. What I have I got somewhere over the years.
No idea where it came from... I did not code it.

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              99 02:19:39 am
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> Good News: The newest FTP/LX is capable of MPUT and MGET.


Avi:

That's great!  I was using your FTP today, and missed several
other common FTP commands - OPEN, USER, and some way to enable
the MORE filter.  One some ftp clients I use, you can toggle
more filter operation on/off with the command MORE.

Just some feedback.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:49:12 +0100
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Hi all,

Anybody run a genealogy program on the 200LX? Something that runs nicely,
interfaces in a standard way with other programs, possibility of viewing
(using lxpic)? Just so that I don't have to dl everything from Simtel... :-)

br

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You left out the easiest one to use: LXBatch 3.0

It should do exactly what you want to do and the results will look like y=
ou
spent years learning C and the months mastering the SDK.  If it takes mor=
e
than a couple of days to get something up and running, I'd be surprised. =

The quickest way to get it is to go to
http://www.PalmtopPaper.com/download.htm  Put LXbatch in the search box a=
nd
click Fetch!. You'll get a list of the programs that have been written wi=
th
LXB along with the LXB 3.0 file by Rob Koenis. =


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              99 11:49:12 am
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> Anybody run a genealogy program on the 200LX? Something that runs nicely,
> interfaces in a standard way with other programs, possibility of viewing
> (using lxpic)? Just so that I don't have to dl everything from Simtel... :-)

I have Personal Ancestral File on my palmtop, and in fact this is what
prompted my mother-in-law to buy an HP-100 and small FLASH card, so
she could carry her entire database and computer with her to the
library or on trips when she does geneology research.  PAF also reads
and writes a standard file format (gedcom, I think) that is supported
by many such programs.  I think the program costs about 30-40 bucks.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:42:54 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, David Ness wrote:

> This is a particularly interesting response to me, as I always found
> AWK a bit AWKward, and was vastly relieved when Perl showed up on the
> horizion. I guess it's just proof that what is easy for one of us may
> be hard for another, and vice-versa. Perhaps I am a departed `C'-er
> at heart, but I sure found Perl a lot easier to learn than Awk, and
> although I learned Regular Expressions from some of Ken Thompson's
> implementations back in the 1960s, I still find them too complex
> (although incredibly powerful) to suggest to someone who characterizes
> themself as a `non-programmer'.

Well, Awk is "AWKward" if you ('you' not referring to anyone in
particular) try to use it as a general purpose programming language. It is
meant more as filter for text-files, and for this it performs quite well,
providing a fast way of accessing the data in these files.
As with any language, Awk has its odd twists and skeletons in the closet,
which you either love or hate.

I cannot speak for others, but I went from BASIC/Pascal style languages to
SED+Awk and then to Perl and C(++). Knowing Awk before I tried Perl was
helpful to me, but it may not hold true for others. Looking back, I
have only used Awk once since I started using Perl...

As for regular expressions, they are such an integrated part of Perl that
they're hard to avoid I think, but perhaps you are right and they are not
the first thing you should concentrate on when learning how to program.


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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:50:14 -0500
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   Dear Jorgen and Rclott and all Lxers,

The HQ of the software vendor, who actually developed Palmtop
Circuit is located in Budapest, Hungary. They are DesignSoft.
So I thought to go to their office again and did that.

I must tell, that I have visited them about 5mo. before and
they promised all kind of written stuff and pricing info
postal mailed to me. Well, I never got anything.

This time they told me that program should cost app. 80USD
(IMO it's ridiculously overpriced) and will be sold direct
to overseas (US) customers, payment via credit card -
if there are at least 12 or so interested people.

They mumbled some stupid sentences about that they need time
to produce new Palmtop Circuit software packages, etc.
They again promised to call me back two weeks from now, when
boss returns from abroad. I will keep you informed.

I would appreciate a short e-mail from those who actually may
consider buying Palmtop Circuit, so I know what to tell them
when conctacting them next time.

However, have you considered that even if you can buy PaCi
(btw, this is children's word for horse in hungarian language),
you are likely to get no user support or any uprades for your
money? Practically what you get is the physical data storage
(3,5" diskette) and a sheet of licence paper, plus manual.
Does it worth buying?


            Sincerely: Tamas Feher

PS: I have an idea, that might be interesting for you; when
running CPU-intensive, but non-interactive tasks on the LX.
Circuit Simu is just one such field. So, I think someone
should write a TSR version (terminate and stay resident) of
the routine found in Haruya's LxMidi player. That is for
turning off LCD (detach from bus) for 7% CPU power boost.

I am aware of an LCD on/off program, found on SUPER. But
that is not TSR. I guess, the TSR could be used this way:
Start PaCi or PSpice, enter data, work with files inter-
actively, set the circuit analyzer prog to beep when it will
finish running the job, run the session, press TSR hotkey to
turn off LCD, leave the LX alone 30-45min. while it works
(it can take this long!), then it beeps, press hotkey to wake
up LCD and go on. What you get is reasonably less running
time, maybe up to 4 minutes spared for a session.

Probably the existing code-piece from LxMidi is quite easy to
modify to be TSR for an experienced programmer. I am not ...

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   >I don't want to compete with Avi, but I just finished a
   >keyboard scan code utility which also explains how to bypass
   >light sleep mode while checking the keyboard. Get it from
   >http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/scancode.zip
   >There where problems concerning the DEL key scancode on
   >Omnibooks in conjunction with LxPic. Therefore I wrote it.
   >Comes with source code.
Message-Id: <19990219130506.BUYR2406@İ12.72.154.131¨>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:05:06 +0000

I'm the one that Stefan helped with the Omnibook DEL key problem in LXPIC
(thanks again Stefan), which was fixed with a modified version of LXPIC
after analysis using his tiny SCANCODE program (only 500 bytes!).

His SCANCODE program is well recommended if you're cramped for space, and
even offers more information than some others.

If anyone else is using LXPIC on the Omnibook 800, you may also notice that
the DEL key doesn't work, and I believe Stefan will be making the fixed
version of LXPIC available soon.

Lets me keep pretending like my OB is a big version of my LX <g>.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:17:50 +0100
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> I have Personal Ancestral File on my palmtop,..
> -Chris Lott

Chris,
do you have any idea where I could get Personal Ancestral File,
 preferably downloading it from somewhere ?
Thanks
Winfried

Winfried Zettelmeyer, Dr. /
Huerta Claraval, Km 74 Carretera de Malaga /
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I'll look into LxBatch.  Easy is good. <g>  I forgot one thing I didn't
like about Perl and that is it is huge!  So small is good, too.
Especially on a 1 meg 100lx.

Thanks to everyone who answered.

Terry

> ----------
> From:         Ed KeefeİSMTP:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent:         Friday, February 19, 1999 5:21 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Programming for non-programmer
>
> You left out the easiest one to use: LXBatch 3.0
>
> It should do exactly what you want to do and the results will look
> like you
> spent years learning C and the months mastering the SDK.  If it takes
> more
> than a couple of days to get something up and running, I'd be
> surprised.
> The quickest way to get it is to go to
> http://www.PalmtopPaper.com/download.htm  Put LXbatch in the search
> box and
> click Fetch!. You'll get a list of the programs that have been written
> with
> LXB along with the LXB 3.0 file by Rob Koenis.
>

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>Probably the existing code-piece from LxMidi is quite easy to
>modify to be TSR for an experienced programmer. I am not ...

If you have the latest version of my speed upgrade driver (1.7 or greater)
then you already have the capability using the SHIFT-CTRL-S key combination
to toggle the screen on and off.

I just added version 1.7a with the Bios Message Killing functionality even
though the web page doesn't state it yet.

Cheers,
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I know this wasn't directed to me, but I pulled my copy of Rexx from my
laptop which has IBM's PC Dos 7.0 on it - comes with it free.  Of course
you have to buy the DOS. ;-)  The few things that I've run on the
palmtop with it ran fine, no errors with the Dos version mismatch that I
can tell.

I'd like to learn Rexx, just because of it's portability.

Terry

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> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; David Ness
> Sent:         Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:42 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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>
> What Rexx do you run on the 200, and where can it be found?
>
> Russel Brooks wrote:
> >
> > Rexx is EXCELLENT because it was designed for the novice.  You
> > don't need to be worried declaring variables, Rexx figures out
> > what they are by how you use them.  You also get the benefit of
> > a structured language; no GOTOs like basic.
> >
> > The penalty is speed, Rexx is an interpreted language and isn't
> > very speedy; however speed is not an important matter in many
> > programs.
> >
> > I've been writing Rexx for about 15 years on IBM's VM/CMS OS.
> > I've been very productive and I owe a lot of thanks to ease of
> > learning and using Rexx.
> >
> > cheers... Russ
> >
>

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Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:46:04 -0500 (EST)

09h57m13s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, David Ness wrote:

> > > Tipi (has anyone used this?)
>
> Do you have a reference, the first few hundred AltaVista references
> are all to Native American Housing Structures or are in Italian rather
> than about computer languages...

TIPI was on a PTP disk a few years ago.  I think the author's name is
Kent Peterson.  Maybe you could find it on palmtoppaper.com  or SUPER.
It's a nice Forth-like language with some features from Basic.  It ran
a little slowly on my old single-speed 100LX.  Haven't tried it on a
2x machine.

This is getting away from the original post re string handling, but I'm
partial to Forth.  There's a version called HP-Pygmy on SUPER that has
a lot of palmtop-specific enhancements.

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There is a copy on SUPER although I think I downloaded mine originally
from CIS:

http://www.palmtop.net/Programming.html

There is a cute sample Haiku program on it - as well as Hangman and some
other interesting projects.

Terry

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> From:         David NessİSMTP:DNess@HOME.COM¨
> Sent:         Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:49 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Programming for non-programmers?
>
> F. Kaufman wrote:
> >
> > > Tipi (has anyone used this?)
> >
> > I forgot all about that one.  Met the author at a few Seattle
> usergroup
> > meetings but have not seen him in quite a while.  He wrote some
> > interesting things with it and as I recall sponsored a contest.
> >
>
> Do you have a reference, the first few hundred AltaVista references
> are all to Native American Housing Structures or are in Italian rather
> than about computer
> languages...
>

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On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I have Personal Ancestral File on my palmtop, and in fact this is what
> prompted my mother-in-law to buy an HP-100 and small FLASH card, so
> she could carry her entire database and computer with her to the
> library or on trips when she does geneology research.  PAF also reads
> and writes a standard file format (gedcom, I think) that is supported
> by many such programs.  I think the program costs about 30-40 bucks.

Note that the new version 3.0 of PAF for DOS will not run (reportedly) on
the 200LX.  It requires a 286+.  Which is too bad, really, because it has
a much better interface than the 2.x series, which is not available
anymore.

I could be wrong about 3.0 needing a 286, but that's what I've heard...
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How big is the IBM DOS 7.0 version of Rexx (how much disk space does it need)?

I'm starting to use Rexx at work and would like to have it on both my 200LX and
my Omnibook. Finding a copy for the Omnibook isn't difficult, but I'd rather
have the same thing on both machines just to make life simpler for me.

I saw a copy of IBM DOS 7.0 for sale at around $30, but didn't feel inclined at
the time to basically buy a package for the box and toss the contents (since I'm
not sure what use I'd have for DOS 7.0 sans Rexx). Also didn't know how big the
Rexx component was.

- Longden





Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> on 02/19/99 07:13:32 AM

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I know this wasn't directed to me, but I pulled my copy of Rexx from my
laptop which has IBM's PC Dos 7.0 on it - comes with it free.  Of course
you have to buy the DOS. ;-)  The few things that I've run on the
palmtop with it ran fine, no errors with the Dos version mismatch that I
can tell.

I'd like to learn Rexx, just because of it's portability.

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The Perl executable on my 200Lx is 350k, but I guess that's
`huge' if you are living on a 1m machine without a PCMCIA disk.

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> I'll look into LxBatch.  Easy is good. <g>  I forgot one thing I didn't
> like about Perl and that is it is huge!  So small is good, too.
> Especially on a 1 meg 100lx.
>

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The Rexx executable is about 85k with all the little .rx things that
come with it.  PC Dos 7.0 itself has some interesting features, it's
supposed to be much better than Dos 6.2 for things like memory handling
but I can't say that I would've paid the list price of 79.99 or whatever
it was the last time I looked.  (My company had been tossing the extra
disks that came with the IBM computers they purchased.)

There is a Personal Rexx for Dos demo around somewhere (Quercus??) -
it'll only run 50 lines of code and the full package is expensive (IMO)
but is good for experimenting.

Terry

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>
> How big is the IBM DOS 7.0 version of Rexx (how much disk space does
> it need)?
>
> I'm starting to use Rexx at work and would like to have it on both my
> 200LX and
> my Omnibook. Finding a copy for the Omnibook isn't difficult, but I'd
> rather
> have the same thing on both machines just to make life simpler for me.
>
> I saw a copy of IBM DOS 7.0 for sale at around $30, but didn't feel
> inclined at
> the time to basically buy a package for the box and toss the contents
> (since I'm
> not sure what use I'd have for DOS 7.0 sans Rexx). Also didn't know
> how big the
> Rexx component was.
>
> - Longden
>
>

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Ronald,

Let me for ease of reference quote a brief exchange of messages I
participated in on this issue last year in the Compuserve HP Handheld
Forum, which should be self explanatory:

quote

A notebook specialized computer dealer told me that he does not sell a HP
LX-popular modem cum flash memory card because several customers got their
data corrupted due to x-ray machines on airports. I questioned this and he
reacted very firm and said this was due to the more sensitive flash memory
of this modem. - Could not verify it yet. My LX goes always through the
x-ray (several times every month), nothing noticed; nevertheless I do not
let the modem go through. (May be it is more often found on asian
airports?)

Regards

Hermann Michael Blum

Message text written by David H. Fisher, Jr.
>. I have had no problem with my 2 year old EXP ThinFax.<

This is exactly the one I inquired. In the meantime I have got a 1414 LXM
(8 MB, favourable offer from Mobile Planet) myself. Since however the
vendor here (largest portable shop in the Funan Center, which is one of the
two big  IT shopping centers in Singapore) seemed very serious about this
(he did not try to sell me anything else and only explained the details
after being asked) I take no chances. If I recall it correctly he mentioned
that his customer complaints were linked to x-ray machines in Vietnam and
China. He did mention that the memory became so corrupted that  it could
not be restored by a simple backup (which he referred to both the more
sensitive memory as well as particularly strong x-rays).

Although I still have my doubts my consequence is: the lx passes via the
machine, the card openly in the box.

...

unquote

I was later told that not the x-ray should be the problem but rather strong
magnetic fields generated by some - mainly older - machines. Really do not
know but trust the dealer that there is an issue - which seems to be
confirmed by your case. Hope this shed some light - even if it cannot help.

Kind regards

Hermann Michael Blum


(As an introduction to the list: I have been a lurker here for more than a
year by now - bought my first lx in 94, operate now 2 İa 200 when at home
and a 700 when on business trip, which is currently nearly every week for 2
days or so¨, am totally depending on them, missionaried recently two
colleagues into buying new ones İ200LX, couldn't get them in Singapore,
although still produced here, which was denied by the Singapore HP staff
who tried hard to convince me that the CE machines are way ahead¨,
benefitted tremendously from this list İand the Compuserve one¨ but hardly
ever get to read the messages so in time that it is not too embarrassing to
answer by then if I really find an issue where I think I could contribute
something meaningful.)

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> From: Ronald Fenton <ronald.fenton@UTORONTO.CA>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: airport xray machines and data loss
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:19 PM
>
> A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
> scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card  (including deleting wwwlx),
> caused my HPLX doublespeed to require rebooting, and scrambled some off
> my config files on my laptop (Sony Vaio).  Since this all happened at
> the same time I can only attribute it to the xray machine. Has anyone
> experienced similar problems or has a comment about this?
>
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What version of Perl are you using?  Do you have a URL and a list of
essential files?  (The pc version I have consumed close to a meg - more
space than I wanted to spare on my tiny 4 meg pcmcia card.)

Terry

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>
> The Perl executable on my 200Lx is 350k, but I guess that's
> `huge' if you are living on a 1m machine without a PCMCIA disk.
>
> Terry Owen wrote:
> >
> > I'll look into LxBatch.  Easy is good. <g>  I forgot one thing I
> didn't
> > like about Perl and that is it is huge!  So small is good, too.
> > Especially on a 1 meg 100lx.
> >
>
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LXB is a great program but I still find little annoying limitations when it
comes to string manipulation and file handling. It's to be familiar with a
few languages so that you can get what you need done. I use LXBatch, ASIC
and Foxpro. ASIC is nice because it is BASIC language and easy to learn.
Many people have taken intro to BASIC in school can pick it up right away.
It also has some annoying limitations but one thing that is great about it
is that it is _SMALL_. If you take out the help file and IDE it will fit in
< 100K. it also creates really tiny .com files.

Foxpro is a monster. It's huge and a little slow but great for writing
database apps.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Keefe İmailto:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 6:22 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Programming for non-programmer
>
>
> You left out the easiest one to use: LXBatch 3.0
>
> It should do exactly what you want to do and the results will
> look like you
> spent years learning C and the months mastering the SDK.  If
> it takes more
> than a couple of days to get something up and running, I'd be
> surprised.
> The quickest way to get it is to go to
> http://www.PalmtopPaper.com/download.htm  Put LXbatch in the
> search box and
> click Fetch!. You'll get a list of the programs that have
> been written with
> LXB along with the LXB 3.0 file by Rob Koenis.
>
> .ed.İPTP¨
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A list member wrote:

> I have only one project in mind - the creation of a program that would
> read a large text file and display the text for that day.

Is there much interest in this type of Program?  I
have a freeware
program I picked up some years ago. It is intended
for displaying
"Examining the Scriptures Daily".  It needs 156k
to run.
The author no longer supports the program, and in
fact the listed
e-mail address is dead.  I know him and don't
believe he would have any
objection to it being posted to super. To head off
some problems he
released this program without his name attached.
Just an anonymous,
and now dead, e-mail address.

So...

--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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I've already downloaded the demo Personal Rexx from Quercus. I don't deny that a
useful app can be written in 50 lines, but it'd aggravate me no end to be in the
middle of coding something hot and find I've used up my allotment (and then have
to pay for the full package).

I'd rather have something complete up front, if I can do it cheap (my middle
name).

If anyone knows where IBM DOS 7.0 can be found (reliably) at a good price (say
under $20, shrink-wrapped), let me know.

- Longden





Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> on 02/19/99 08:10:14 AM

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The Rexx executable is about 85k with all the little .rx things that
come with it.  PC Dos 7.0 itself has some interesting features, it's
supposed to be much better than Dos 6.2 for things like memory handling
but I can't say that I would've paid the list price of 79.99 or whatever
it was the last time I looked.  (My company had been tossing the extra
disks that came with the IBM computers they purchased.)

There is a Personal Rexx for Dos demo around somewhere (Quercus??) -
it'll only run 50 lines of code and the full package is expensive (IMO)
but is good for experimenting.

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My Perl is much too old for me to have any idea of where I got it,
other than to assume it was probably CPAN, or possibly from a CDRom
in an early Perl Book. Most likely CPAN, though. Its internal label
reads:

 $RCSfile: perl.c.v $$Revision 4.0.1.6 $$Date: 91/11/11 16:38:45 $
 Patch level: 19

 Copyright(c) 1989, 1990, 1991. Larry Wall
 MS-DOS port Copyright (c) 1989, 1990 Diomidis Spinellis
 V1.5 Borland C++ & VROOM port Copyright (c) 1992, Stuart Phillips

I have no idea if there were other files involved. All I can say is
that I'm pretty sure the only needed is the PERL.EXE of 3-1-92 12:54p
that is 353568 bytes.

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> What version of Perl are you using?  Do you have a URL and a list of
> essential files?  (The pc version I have consumed close to a meg - more
> space than I wanted to spare on my tiny 4 meg pcmcia card.)
>
> Terry
>
> > ----------
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> > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; David Ness
> > Sent:         Friday, February 19, 1999 9:59 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Programming for non-programmer
> >
> > The Perl executable on my 200Lx is 350k, but I guess that's
> > `huge' if you are living on a 1m machine without a PCMCIA disk.
> >
> > Terry Owen wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll look into LxBatch.  Easy is good. <g>  I forgot one thing I
> > didn't
> > > like about Perl and that is it is huge!  So small is good, too.
> > > Especially on a 1 meg 100lx.
> > >
> >
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>
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My Perl is much too old for me to have any idea of where I got it,
other than to assume it was probably CPAN, or possibly from a CDRom
in an early Perl Book. Most likely CPAN, though. Its internal label
reads:

 $RCSfile: perl.c.v $$Revision 4.0.1.6 $$Date: 91/11/11 16:38:45 $
 Patch level: 19

 Copyright(c) 1989, 1990, 1991. Larry Wall
 MS-DOS port Copyright (c) 1989, 1990 Diomidis Spinellis
 V1.5 Borland C++ & VROOM port Copyright (c) 1992, Stuart Phillips

I have no idea if there were other files involved. All I can say is
that I'm pretty sure the only needed is the PERL.EXE of 3-1-92 12:54p
that is 353568 bytes.

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> What version of Perl are you using?  Do you have a URL and a list of
> essential files?  (The pc version I have consumed close to a meg - more
> space than I wanted to spare on my tiny 4 meg pcmcia card.)
>
> Terry
>

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I think David's talking about PERL 4.0 from the SUPER site, and that comes with
all files. I'm not sure that anything's essential beyond the .exe (but I haven't
used it a lot).

It's 331k for the .exe alone. I got it when I thought I'd be writing PERL...then
they told me I'd be writing Rexx instead.

- Longden





Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM> on 02/19/99 08:12:41 AM

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What version of Perl are you using?  Do you have a URL and a list of
essential files?  (The pc version I have consumed close to a meg - more
space than I wanted to spare on my tiny 4 meg pcmcia card.)

Terry

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>
> The Perl executable on my 200Lx is 350k, but I guess that's
> `huge' if you are living on a 1m machine without a PCMCIA disk.

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Next time the palmtop won't reboot with CTRL ALT DEL, do CTRL SHIFT ON, and
answer N to the question about if you want to erase your memory.

It's in the manual, and I have yet to lock it up bad enough to have to
remove the batteries.

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> This really works? You mean I can copy from A:\ some file
> to B: and it'll ask me to plug the other "floppy" in there?
> I imagine it would, although I never tried it!
> Fascinating... Well, I just tried it, and it says that
> drive B: is not ready, Abort, Retry, or cancel...

Wait a minute... Drat! You're absolutely right. It doesn't work for me
either. Nor can I do DIR B: and get a listing of my flashcard, even though
that's what *should* happen under DOS.

Hmn. A reboot reveals a brief message to the effect that "The device driver
loaded two drives - A: B:"

What device driver? I don't see anything in my config.sys or autoexec.bat
that should generate a message like that. There must be something in the
palmtop's ROM, perhaps in the PCMCIA driver, that overrides the normal DOS
startup.

(I wonder how this affects those folks working on booting their palmtops
into Minix. On the other hand, I'm sure this has already been considered by
The People Smarter Than Me, of which there are plenty around.)

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Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>

-----Original Message-----From: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
>On the other hand, I'm sure the Rexx crowd would suggest Rexx. I have not
>had much experience with this programming language, but its Pascal like
>syntax may be easier to learn than Perl, especially if you already know
>BASIC. Both Rexx and Perl are neat and flexible programming languages and
>people are using both on the LX with great results.
>
>I don't know where you can find Rexx, though. There are several commercial
>Rexx versions that will run on the LX, and also free implementations. One
>is called BRexx and I'm sure one of the Rexxers will post a link to it...
>(Walter?)


:)  I use BRexx 1.3 every day on the palmtop, I don't suggest *learning*
REXX from the BRexx documentation, but the program itself is great.  I can't
seem to get 2.0 working on the palmtop, but 1.3 works great.  Anyone
interested email me and I'll send them just the recompiled (by Laust,
thanks! :) BRexx 1.3 EXE and you'll have to get the BRexx 1.3 archive from
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/rexx/brexx/v13

BTW, I'm making a BRexx page on my website, as soon as its setup and going.
Maybe have it up today.  :)

--
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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:01:33 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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After all the interesting responses from the programming thread I
thought I'd bother the List one more time...<g>

I recently upgraded to a new version of Docread (great program, btw!)
and find that it displays partial lines of text and doesn't display the
rest of the line when I page down.  The version I have is from January
1999.

The original command line version didn't do this - and I have some .prc
that I downloaded from a palm pilot site that display just fine with the
newer Docread.

I am using a program called makedoc.exe to make my .prc files. Does
anyone knows if this program might be the problem?   Any recommendations
for a similiar pc program to create the .prc files?

Thanks,

Terry Owen
owen6511@earthlink.net

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:14:56 -0600
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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From:         Stan Hall <kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM>
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Subject:      DOS 7 for 2 bucks (was Re: Rexx (Was RE: Programming for
              non-programmers?))
Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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>
> If anyone knows where IBM DOS 7.0 can be found (reliably) at a good price (say
> under $20, shrink-wrapped), let me know.
>
> - Longden


Gotta love the garbage that sits in your head until you need it.
Egghead has a Portuguese version of IBM PCDOS 7.0 for $1.99.  Hopefully
that has the Rexx everyone wants.  I have personally bought from egghead
several timeshave been happy with them.

The link:

 http://www.egghead.com/store/ent/eggs_prod.browse?prod_id=0000003505

They are really going to wonder about the rush of orders for this
product :-)

--
Stan Hall
Pillar Communication
http://www.telepath.com/pillar

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:28:21 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I am planning a project where the palmtop is used to log data and I
need 3
or more 1000cx's (2 meg preferred but 1 acceptable), new or used.  The
problem is that we have contacted several suppliers (including
Thaddeus),
and they have no stock, either new or used.>>

Anyone know where we can find 1000CX's?>>


We can get new 1000CX's to resele -- however, they are not much of a
bargain -- $475 each.  With 5 or more we could come down to around $450
-- Hal at Thaddeus.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:03:08 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Folks,

I'm not much of a programmer. So those who are
programmer this is directed at you.

I don't know if is possible or practical, it may
even exit already.

We have docread to read compress palmtop text
files and HV to view html files and VR to view
text files.

Howabout at program that could take standard html
files and compress them and then a HV type program
that could view the compressed files.


Example:

I find a detail file on the web that has info I
want to use.  Today I can save the html file
(large due to the html codes) and view with HV or
I can strip out the html codes and view with VR.

Some folks strip out the html and then compress
with DocRead.


I'd like to find a one step tool.

Ideas?

--
Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:05:28 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Subject:      Re: airport xray machines and data loss
Comments: To: Hermann Michael Blum <blums@MAGIX.COM.SG>
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It is not the XRAY machines but some Metal
Detectors. It you remove the card and send it thru
the xray machine while you go thru the metal
detector it will be fine.

Hermann Michael Blum wrote:
>
> Ronald,
>
> Let me for ease of reference quote a brief exchange of messages I
> participated in on this issue last year in the Compuserve HP Handheld
> Forum, which should be self explanatory:
>
> quote
>
> A notebook specialized computer dealer told me that he does not sell a HP
> LX-popular modem cum flash memory card because several customers got their
> data corrupted due to x-ray machines on airports. I questioned this and he
> reacted very firm and said this was due to the more sensitive flash memory
> of this modem. - Could not verify it yet. My LX goes always through the
> x-ray (several times every month), nothing noticed; nevertheless I do not
> let the modem go through. (May be it is more often found on asian
> airports?)
>
> Regards
>
> Hermann Michael Blum
>
> Message text written by David H. Fisher, Jr.
> >. I have had no problem with my 2 year old EXP ThinFax.<
>
> This is exactly the one I inquired. In the meantime I have got a 1414 LXM
> (8 MB, favourable offer from Mobile Planet) myself. Since however the
> vendor here (largest portable shop in the Funan Center, which is one of the
> two big  IT shopping centers in Singapore) seemed very serious about this
> (he did not try to sell me anything else and only explained the details
> after being asked) I take no chances. If I recall it correctly he mentioned
> that his customer complaints were linked to x-ray machines in Vietnam and
> China. He did mention that the memory became so corrupted that  it could
> not be restored by a simple backup (which he referred to both the more
> sensitive memory as well as particularly strong x-rays).
>
> Although I still have my doubts my consequence is: the lx passes via the
> machine, the card openly in the box.
>
> ...
>
> unquote
>
> I was later told that not the x-ray should be the problem but rather strong
> magnetic fields generated by some - mainly older - machines. Really do not
> know but trust the dealer that there is an issue - which seems to be
> confirmed by your case. Hope this shed some light - even if it cannot help.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Hermann Michael Blum
>
> (As an introduction to the list: I have been a lurker here for more than a
> year by now - bought my first lx in 94, operate now 2 İa 200 when at home
> and a 700 when on business trip, which is currently nearly every week for 2
> days or so¨, am totally depending on them, missionaried recently two
> colleagues into buying new ones İ200LX, couldn't get them in Singapore,
> although still produced here, which was denied by the Singapore HP staff
> who tried hard to convince me that the CE machines are way ahead¨,
> benefitted tremendously from this list İand the Compuserve one¨ but hardly
> ever get to read the messages so in time that it is not too embarrassing to
> answer by then if I really find an issue where I think I could contribute
> something meaningful.)
>
> ----------
> > From: Ronald Fenton <ronald.fenton@UTORONTO.CA>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: airport xray machines and data loss
> > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:19 PM
> >
> > A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
> > scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card  (including deleting wwwlx),
> > caused my HPLX doublespeed to require rebooting, and scrambled some off
> > my config files on my laptop (Sony Vaio).  Since this all happened at
> > the same time I can only attribute it to the xray machine. Has anyone
> > experienced similar problems or has a comment about this?
> >
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:17:59 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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              -programmers?))
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Thanks Stan..

So THATs what the P in PC DOS stands for <g>.

I wonder if the helps and promps built into that Rexx are in Portuguese also?

Gotta place an order if the shipping's reasonable.

- Longden





Stan Hall <kilgore@pylon.pillar.com> on 02/19/99 11:14:56 AM

To:   HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Longden Loo/WL/Candle@Candle
cc:

Subject:  DOS 7 for 2 bucks (was Re: Rexx (Was RE: Programming for
      non-programmers?))




>
> If anyone knows where IBM DOS 7.0 can be found (reliably) at a good price (say
> under $20, shrink-wrapped), let me know.
>
> - Longden


Gotta love the garbage that sits in your head until you need it.
Egghead has a Portuguese version of IBM PCDOS 7.0 for $1.99.  Hopefully
that has the Rexx everyone wants.  I have personally bought from egghead
several timeshave been happy with them.

The link:

 http://www.egghead.com/store/ent/eggs_prod.browse?prod_id=0000003505

They are really going to wonder about the rush of orders for this
product :-)

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:22:31 +1300
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Patrick West wrote:
>
> A list member wrote:
>
> > I have only one project in mind - the creation of a program that would
> > read a large text file and display the text for that day.
>
> Is there much interest in this type of Program?  I
> have a freeware
> program I picked up some years ago. It is intended
> for displaying
> "Examining the Scriptures Daily".  It needs 156k
> to run.
> The author no longer supports the program, and in
> fact the listed
> e-mail address is dead.  I know him and don't
> believe he would have any
> objection to it being posted to super. To head off
> some problems he
> released this program without his name attached.
> Just an anonymous,
> and now dead, e-mail address.
>
> So...
>
> --
> Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
> Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
> HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
> pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
> 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
>
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Patrick,
I am totally interested in this program for the same reason - could you
give me some info so that I can obtain a copy please.
Thanks
Duncan Kellie

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:22:53 -0500
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Are you sure that the motors that drive the belts on some of the
machines might not be a problem? I have been `scanned' while
`carrying' (computational equipment, not firearms!) and never (knock
on wood) had a problem with the metal detectors.

Granted, I find it difficult to believe that the XRays would cause any
difficulty, but I'm not so sure about the `XRay Machines'. Are you?

Patrick West wrote:
>
> It is not the XRAY machines but some Metal
> Detectors. It you remove the card and send it thru
> the xray machine while you go thru the metal
> detector it will be fine.
>
> Hermann Michael Blum wrote:
> >
> > Ronald,
> >
> > Let me for ease of reference quote a brief exchange of messages I
> > participated in on this issue last year in the Compuserve HP Handheld
> > Forum, which should be self explanatory:
> >
> > quote
> >
> > A notebook specialized computer dealer told me that he does not sell a HP
> > LX-popular modem cum flash memory card because several customers got their
> > data corrupted due to x-ray machines on airports. I questioned this and he
> > reacted very firm and said this was due to the more sensitive flash memory
> > of this modem. - Could not verify it yet. My LX goes always through the
> > x-ray (several times every month), nothing noticed; nevertheless I do not
> > let the modem go through. (May be it is more often found on asian
> > airports?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Hermann Michael Blum
> >
> > Message text written by David H. Fisher, Jr.
> > >. I have had no problem with my 2 year old EXP ThinFax.<
> >
> > This is exactly the one I inquired. In the meantime I have got a 1414 LXM
> > (8 MB, favourable offer from Mobile Planet) myself. Since however the
> > vendor here (largest portable shop in the Funan Center, which is one of the
> > two big  IT shopping centers in Singapore) seemed very serious about this
> > (he did not try to sell me anything else and only explained the details
> > after being asked) I take no chances. If I recall it correctly he mentioned
> > that his customer complaints were linked to x-ray machines in Vietnam and
> > China. He did mention that the memory became so corrupted that  it could
> > not be restored by a simple backup (which he referred to both the more
> > sensitive memory as well as particularly strong x-rays).
> >
> > Although I still have my doubts my consequence is: the lx passes via the
> > machine, the card openly in the box.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > unquote
> >
> > I was later told that not the x-ray should be the problem but rather strong
> > magnetic fields generated by some - mainly older - machines. Really do not
> > know but trust the dealer that there is an issue - which seems to be
> > confirmed by your case. Hope this shed some light - even if it cannot help.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Hermann Michael Blum
> >
> > (As an introduction to the list: I have been a lurker here for more than a
> > year by now - bought my first lx in 94, operate now 2 İa 200 when at home
> > and a 700 when on business trip, which is currently nearly every week for 2
> > days or so¨, am totally depending on them, missionaried recently two
> > colleagues into buying new ones İ200LX, couldn't get them in Singapore,
> > although still produced here, which was denied by the Singapore HP staff
> > who tried hard to convince me that the CE machines are way ahead¨,
> > benefitted tremendously from this list İand the Compuserve one¨ but hardly
> > ever get to read the messages so in time that it is not too embarrassing to
> > answer by then if I really find an issue where I think I could contribute
> > something meaningful.)
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Ronald Fenton <ronald.fenton@UTORONTO.CA>
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > > Subject: airport xray machines and data loss
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:19 PM
> > >
> > > A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
> > > scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card  (including deleting wwwlx),
> > > caused my HPLX doublespeed to require rebooting, and scrambled some off
> > > my config files on my laptop (Sony Vaio).  Since this all happened at
> > > the same time I can only attribute it to the xray machine. Has anyone
> > > experienced similar problems or has a comment about this?
> > >
> > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
> >
> > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
> --
> Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
> Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
> HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
> pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
> 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
>
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Terry Owen wrote:
>
> After all the interesting responses from the programming thread I
> thought I'd bother the List one more time...<g>
>
> I recently upgraded to a new version of Docread (great program, btw!)
> and find that it displays partial lines of text and doesn't display the
> rest of the line when I page down.  The version I have is from January
> 1999.
>
> The original command line version didn't do this - and I have some .prc
> that I downloaded from a palm pilot site that display just fine with the
> newer Docread.
>
> I am using a program called makedoc.exe to make my .prc files. Does
> anyone knows if this program might be the problem?   Any recommendations
> for a similiar pc program to create the .prc files?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Terry Owen
> owen6511@earthlink.net
>
> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
Can you tell me where to get Docread please?
Thanks Duncan

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:46:53 +0100
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Drive question
Comments: To: "Seim, Ellen M" <ellen.m.seim@INTEL.COM>
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I've installed an 'Eiger ESA-2000' 2-Slot PC-Card adapter (Type I,II
& III); it comes with an ISA-Card and fits into a 3.5" internal drive
bay.
For Win98 the MS-supplied drivers are installed. It works with MS-DOS
5.0 or later and Win3.1 or later. You may have to ask for Win3.1
driver delivery.

You'll need one IRQ for the PCMCIA controller and additionally one
free interrupt for each flash PC-Card used (in parallel). Since I
don't use 2 serial ports at the same time, I've setup the PC-BIOS to
use the same IRQ for COM2 and COM4 (Com4 instead of COM1).

If you need more details, just ask - I'll try to ...

 Hermann

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
> Seim, Ellen M
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 1:53 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: PCMCIA Drive question
>
>
> I have 2 PCMCIA type II cards (one is the EXP modem with
> 8MB drive) and 1 Compact Flash card for my 200LX and am
> looking into getting a PCMCIA Drive to attach to a PC for
> file transfers.
>
> Any advice on which brand/models are good/reliable/user friendly?
>
> External would be nice, if there is one that will take both
> size cards.
> (The only one I have seen is CF only)
>
> As far as compatibility on the PC side, my home computer is Win 3.1
> and at work is NT 4.1.
>
> Ellen Seim
>
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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:57:30 -0800
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Hi, I am getting a rash of log files. Let me expain: The
loggin facility in WWW/LX Plus is for DEBUGGING. It is
there so that IF we cannot figure something out we can ask
the customer to generate one.

What it is not: It is not something that should
automatically be run if you have troubles!!! I found that
the vast majority of logs I get is TOTALLY USELESS. There
is almost NEVER ANY useful information in them. In the vast
majority of the cases it is a waste of time, bandwidth,
bits, etc. In all cases where a customer sent a log
voluntarily (i.e. we did not ask for it), the log is
useless, and gives no additional information, and the
solution is elswhere.

In most cases when _we_ asked for a log, we had specific
reasons and needed to see confirming evidence. That is
useful for us.

Soooooo - Please, good people, please forget about logs. I
will ask Andreas to take out the code and so no logs can be
generated in the future, since it is a vast source of waste
of time for the customers, for us. It also gives a terrible
false sense of "solution" to customers, when the problems
are located in other places. That is also a waste of their
time.

I will also try this out: Anyone who sends logs in is going
to the bottom of the queue :) .... You see, since the stuff is
sent, we gotta look at it, gotta spend time on it, just to
find that it is not useful, that there is no information in
it to help out. So it means problems accompanied by logs
will take MORE time to deal with, so we will put them off
and push them to the back of the queue. How about it? :)

Not really, I won't do it, of course! But in truth, I am totally
unamused by the waste of the customer's time, and the waste
of our time - it is totally unproductive. Please let us ask
you for the log - don't just shove a useless log into our
faces - it makes our life harder, and it means we can help
you less.

But I am serious about Andreas removing the code to make
logs. We hardly ever use them, and it the cases where this
is useful, we can somehow engineer it.

So, thanks!

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:09:14 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Where can you get makedoc.exe ?(was: İHPLX-L¨ Question re: Docrea
              d

The cpp source code on SUPER is good but I don't have a compiler handy. Is
the compiled executable available anywehere?


thx.

BTW: To the guy asking for docread, it's on super.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Flyers İmailto:Flyers@XTRA.CO.NZ¨
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 3:28 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Question re: Docread
>
>
> Terry Owen wrote:
> >
> > After all the interesting responses from the programming thread I
> > thought I'd bother the List one more time...<g>
> >
> > I recently upgraded to a new version of Docread (great
> program, btw!)
> > and find that it displays partial lines of text and doesn't
> display the
> > rest of the line when I page down.  The version I have is
> from January
> > 1999.
> >
> > The original command line version didn't do this - and I
> have some .prc
> > that I downloaded from a palm pilot site that display just
> fine with the
> > newer Docread.
> >
> > I am using a program called makedoc.exe to make my .prc files. Does
> > anyone knows if this program might be the problem?   Any
> recommendations
> > for a similiar pc program to create the .prc files?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:15:18 -0500
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I think this was discussed once before. If you look at the program called
zipray you'll see what I think is an elegant method. Zipray uses zip and
list to view text files in a zip archive. If we had a HTML viewer that could
accept input from <stdin> we could adapt zipray to that purpose. Another
possibility is to write a program from scratch that would manage HTML files
in a zip archive that would create temp files, view them with hv and then
erase them. The one problem with both of these is that you'll need files
that have only links to themselves but no other files. That excludes the
majority of HTML files. We would have to write a program that's smart enough
to read the file that it is decompressing and follow the links of other
files to decompress.....

Ah, screw it. Get SC and Stacker or JAM and use a compressed partition.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick West İmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 3:03 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: İHPLX-L¨ program wanted
>
>
> Folks,
>
> I'm not much of a programmer. So those who are
> programmer this is directed at you.
>
> I don't know if is possible or practical, it may
> even exit already.
>
> We have docread to read compress palmtop text
> files and HV to view html files and VR to view
> text files.
>
> Howabout at program that could take standard html
> files and compress them and then a HV type program
> that could view the compressed files.
>
>
> Example:
>
> I find a detail file on the web that has info I
> want to use.  Today I can save the html file
> (large due to the html codes) and view with HV or
> I can strip out the html codes and view with VR.
>
> Some folks strip out the html and then compress
> with DocRead.
>
>
> I'd like to find a one step tool.
>
> Ideas?
>
> --
> Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
> Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
> HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
> pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
> 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
>
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Well, the PDF version appears to have not received any
permission from HP, making it less than legal. Taking it a
step further is dubitable. But who knows, maybe two wrongs
make a right? :) ...>>

I've hesitated to make an issue out of it, but I believe the postings of
both the 200LX manual and the 200LX SDK are illegal. We (Thaddeus
Computing) worked long and hard to get permission from HP to reproduce
both the manual and the SDK.  The SDK had been held up for about nine
months and it looked like it was not going to be released.  (This was
during the Corvallis to Singapore transition).  We finally persuaded the
powers that be for us to be the exclusive manufacturer and distributor
of the SDK. We subsequently produced it on paper and later on our CD
Infobase. Jorgen and his team further refined it for use with HV on the
Palmtop (1999 CD Infobase).

HP let us scan in the 200LX manual for the CD Infobase.  In return they
got a number of CD's and the text file itself which HP wanted.  (The
original version was produced in some obseleted layout program.)

Probably no significant harm is done (and maybe even some good happens)
to us and HP with the postings, which is why I hadn't said anything.
However, I don't really think it is right or legal.



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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:21:19 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Thadeous (sp?) had new / new upgraded and used 1000cx handhelds in
their
price list last time i looked.  I think they may purchase lots from HP
and
resell
them before/after upgrade.>>


Unfortunately, we are out of used 1000CX's.  We can buy them new and
resell them with doublespeed and memory upgrade.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:55:31 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Rights to SDK and 200LX manual
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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I currently have the PDF version of the 200LX manual on my web page.  I
certainly had no intention of doing something illegal and will remove it
from my page if HP or anyone on this list asks me too.  However I am a
bit confused because unless I'm losing my mind (which could be) I swear
I d/l'd it from HP.  In fact, before posting it to my web site I directed
a friend there for it only to have her tell me that it was no longer there.

Brian S
kaervek@ix.netcom.com


At 04:12 PM 2/19/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I've hesitated to make an issue out of it, but I believe the postings of
>both the 200LX manual and the 200LX SDK are illegal.

~snip - some text removed~

>Probably no significant harm is done (and maybe even some good happens)
>to us and HP with the postings, which is why I hadn't said anything.
>However, I don't really think it is right or legal.

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Lionel,

Used 200LX's from Thaddeus are probably no more expensive than new 1000's.
You might want to take another look.     =Bob=

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:55:21 -0500
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Mike,

So where did you get this 56K Optima?   How much?    =Bob=

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Dan,

What do you want to know about the OB530?  I have owned one in the past and it
is a nice machine.  I also got one for a friend that still uses it today.  It is
an Intel 486 SX33 which comes with Win 3.11.  It is not color, but can support
an external color monitor.  It can be upgraded to Win95 if need be.  The hard
drive is a PCMCIA type III.       =Bob=

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Just wanted to share...

Just tested my new 336E EXP ThinFax against my old Megahertz 14.4 kbps
modem for downloading messages from the list.  I used wwww.log in WWW/LX
to record elapsed time from Online (F5) thru Exit (Menu, Q) on my
HP200LX T2 32Meg by Thaddeus.
- Same modem setup commands for both. Max speed (38400) used (setup.exe).
- HP200LX on ac power supply for both tests.

EXP 336E PCMCIA:  Nominal  33.6 kbps
        48 msgs took 148 seconds  =3D> 3.08 sec/msg avg.

Megahertz CC4144 PCMCIA:  Nominal 14.4 kbps
        68 msgs took 243 seconds  =3D> 3.57 sec/msg avg.

The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
for the 33.6 was worth it.  I hope 33.6 is significantly faster with
file transfers.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:57:05 -0600
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert H. Pigford <profengr@DELANET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:04 PM
Subject: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps


Just wanted to share...

Just tested my new 336E EXP ThinFax against my old Megahertz 14.4 kbps
modem for downloading messages from the list.  I used wwww.log in WWW/LX
to record elapsed time from Online (F5) thru Exit (Menu, Q) on my
HP200LX T2 32Meg by Thaddeus.
- Same modem setup commands for both. Max speed (38400) used (setup.exe).
- HP200LX on ac power supply for both tests.

EXP 336E PCMCIA:  Nominal  33.6 kbps
        48 msgs took 148 seconds  => 3.08 sec/msg avg.

Megahertz CC4144 PCMCIA:  Nominal 14.4 kbps
        68 msgs took 243 seconds  => 3.57 sec/msg avg.

The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
for the 33.6 was worth it.  I hope 33.6 is significantly faster with
file transfers.

This isnt a truely accurate test, as messages can vary widely in size. its
possible
the average message size with the 33.6 was higher than on the 14.4. Just
a thought.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com



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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:08:29 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
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The stated hardware requirements for PAF 3.0 are

IBM compatible 286 or higher
640k RAM
2.5 MB hard disk space
DOS 3.3 or higher

PAF 2.31 runs fine. I got it from ebay for a couple bucks a while ago.

Another program that is supposed to work well, although a little slow on a
1x, is Brothers Keeper V5.2 for dos (shareware). This one's available in a
number of languages. I tried it a little on a desktop, but didn't care for
the interface, so never tried it on the lx.

Here's a site with links to a number of genealogy programs, including BK,
and a couple other DOS programs.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/9069/Software.html

Mike Kopplin
kopplin@primenet.com

>> Anybody run a genealogy program on the 200LX? Something that runs
nicely,
>> interfaces in a standard way with other programs, possibility of
viewing
>> (using lxpic)? Just so that I don't have to dl everything from
Simtel... :-)
>

<snip>
>
>Note that the new version 3.0 of PAF for DOS will not run (reportedly) on
>the 200LX.  It requires a 286+.  Which is too bad, really, because it has
>a much better interface than the 2.x series, which is not available
>anymore.
>
>I could be wrong about 3.0 needing a 286, but that's what I've heard...
>anybody have better news?
>

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:32:23 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: FTP/LX and multiple files
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Chris,

 > That's great!  I was using your FTP today, and missed several
 > other common FTP commands - OPEN, USER, and some way to enable
 > the MORE filter.  One some ftp clients I use, you can toggle
 > more filter operation on/off with the command MORE.

Probably only the MGET and MPUT, nothing else... Some of
these ftp clients will not run on the palmtop, let's get
real... :)

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In a message dated 2/19/1999 5:15:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM writes:

> I've hesitated to make an issue out of it, but I believe the postings of
>  both the 200LX manual and the 200LX SDK are illegal.
I believe that these are two different cases.  Everyone who has purchased a
new HP200LX (and most people who have a used one) (and haven't sold it) owns a
copy of the manual.  If you own the manual, it is certainly fair use to copy
it for use on the palmtop.  You could also have a friend produce it for you.
Posting it would only damage HP's copyright interests if 1) people who did not
own an LX (and therefore the manual) were accessing the file.  That doesn't
seem too likely.  Or, if 2) HP wanted to market an electronic version,
distribution of a competing unit might be an infraction of their interest in
the electronic edition.  While there is a possible technical violation, I can
not see how HP could prove damages.  Now, if HP as that the maverick files be
pulled, I think that should be respected, but even in that case I believe that
distribution of the file directly to known owners of the paper copy would not
be actionable.

The SDK is a completely different issue, since it is entirely likely that
people who do not own the paper copy would download it.  Only direct
distribution to known owners would be safe.

At least that's my opinion.  I could be wrong.

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In a message dated 2/19/1999 9:08:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
driden@STLNET.COM writes:

> The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
>  for the 33.6 was worth it.

There are a lot of factors to be considered.  The modem at your ISP is a much
a limit as yours.  The quality of your telephone line can very for day to day,
and connection to connection.  The server that you are contacting may be very
busy.  There are occasions when even the T1 connection at my office takes
significant time.  For instance, the day the Starr Report was released even
very high power servers were downloading either slowly or not at all because
of the constant hammering.  More recently, downloading income tax files to my
166 MHz OB800CT over a 56K modem was slower than some instances with a
previous 14.4K modem downloading unpopular files at odd hours.

Moving to a faster modem just widens one of many bottle necks.

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PowerBASIC also runs quite well on the HP200LX.  It is like QuickBASIC =
but
with many, many more capabilities than QuickBASIC.  I think their site is

        www.powerbasic.com

I'm told that PowerBASIC uses it's own routines to address the HP200LX
ports and does not use bios calls like their freeware(?) version FirstBASI=
C.
PowerBASIC works within the I/O limitations of the HP200LX.  FirstBASIC
is not so good (ex: FirstBASIC will not find the COMn or LPT ports
correctly). I have version 3.5 of PowerBASIC.  PB.EXE is 350,603 bytes.  =
With
ancillary setup and other files, it might go a meg or meg and a half, but =
I
never tried to trim it to the bone.

I can't say it is perfect, but I highly recommend PowerBASIC.

        Regards,
        Bob Pigford

> LXB is a great program but I still find little annoying limitations =
when it
> comes to string manipulation and file handling. It's to be familiar =
with a
> few languages so that you can get what you need done. I use LXBatch, =
ASIC
> and Foxpro. ASIC is nice because it is BASIC language and easy to =
learn.
> Many people have taken intro to BASIC in school can pick it up right =
away.
> It also has some annoying limitations but one thing that is great about =
it
> is that it is _SMALL_. If you take out the help file and IDE it will =
fit in
> < 100K. it also creates really tiny .com files.
>
> Foxpro is a monster. It's huge and a little slow but great for writing
> database apps.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Keefe İmailto:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 6:22 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Programming for non-programmer
> >
> >
> > You left out the easiest one to use: LXBatch 3.0
> >
> > It should do exactly what you want to do and the results will
> > look like you
> > spent years learning C and the months mastering the SDK.  If
> > it takes more
> > than a couple of days to get something up and running, I'd be
> > surprised.
> > The quickest way to get it is to go to
> > http://www.PalmtopPaper.com/download.htm  Put LXbatch in the
> > search box and
> > click Fetch!. You'll get a list of the programs that have
> > been written with
> > LXB along with the LXB 3.0 file by Rob Koenis.
> >
> > .ed.İPTP¨
> >
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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:21:45 -0800
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Hi all!

I would like to be able to sell an Hp 200LX and odds-nends I have bought for
it over the years.

2MB HP 200LX  w/Manuals                         $339
HP Connecvtivity Pack w/ Manuals                $30
HP Connectivity Cable                           $15
Palmtop Case (Wallet)                           $25
Skytel 2-Way Pager Connectivity Cable   $10
5MB SunDisk Flash Memory PCMCIA card    $75
EXP 1414LXM Fax/Data PCMCIA card with
MiniFax software and 2MB Flash Memory   $200
-----------------------------------------------
Total                                                   $694

If you're interested please E-mail me directly at abizar@shults.com or call
me at +-714-915-1253

Thanks

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:28:34 -0500
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Avi,
Please don't remove our ability to create and append to www.log.  I use
this to double check connect time to my ISP.

> Hi, I am getting a rash of log files. Let me expain: The
> loggin facility in WWW/LX Plus is for DEBUGGING. It is
> there so that IF we cannot figure something out we can ask
> the customer to generate one.
>
> What it is not: It is not something that should
> automatically be run if you have troubles!!! I found that
> the vast majority of logs I get is TOTALLY USELESS. There
> is almost NEVER ANY useful information in them. In the vast
> majority of the cases it is a waste of time, bandwidth,
> bits, etc. In all cases where a customer sent a log
> voluntarily (i.e. we did not ask for it), the log is
> useless, and gives no additional information, and the
> solution is elswhere.
>
> In most cases when _we_ asked for a log, we had specific
> reasons and needed to see confirming evidence. That is
> useful for us.
>
> Soooooo - Please, good people, please forget about logs. I
> will ask Andreas to take out the code and so no logs can be
> generated in the future, since it is a vast source of waste
> of time for the customers, for us. It also gives a terrible
> false sense of "solution" to customers, when the problems
> are located in other places. That is also a waste of their
> time.
>
> I will also try this out: Anyone who sends logs in is going
> to the bottom of the queue :) .... You see, since the stuff is
> sent, we gotta look at it, gotta spend time on it, just to
> find that it is not useful, that there is no information in
> it to help out. So it means problems accompanied by logs
> will take MORE time to deal with, so we will put them off
> and push them to the back of the queue. How about it? :)
>
> Not really, I won't do it, of course! But in truth, I am totally
> unamused by the waste of the customer's time, and the waste
> of our time - it is totally unproductive. Please let us ask
> you for the log - don't just shove a useless log into our
> faces - it makes our life harder, and it means we can help
> you less.
>
> But I am serious about Andreas removing the code to make
> logs. We hardly ever use them, and it the cases where this
> is useful, we can somehow engineer it.
>
> So, thanks!
>
>  Avi Meshar
>  D&A Software, Inc.
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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:44:08 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps
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Bob,

Interesting comparison.

 > EXP 336E PCMCIA:  Nominal  33.6 kbps
 >         48 msgs took 148 seconds  => 3.08 sec/msg avg.
 >
 > Megahertz CC4144 PCMCIA:  Nominal 14.4 kbps
 >         68 msgs took 243 seconds  => 3.57 sec/msg avg.
 >
 > The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
 > for the 33.6 was worth it.  I hope 33.6 is significantly faster with
 > file transfers.

The limit is what the palmtop hardware can do. It can
probably handle no more than 20,000-22,000 baud on DS
machine. Clearly, as 33.6 modem is an overkill, but try and
find a 14.4 modem these days :( ...

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:44:04 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Rights to SDK and 200LX manual
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Hal,

 > <<Well, the PDF version appears to have not received any
 > permission from HP, making it less than legal. Taking it a
 > step further is dubitable. But who knows, maybe two wrongs
 > make a right? :) ...>>

I posted this awhile ago. I believe it was in reference to
Brian Sugita's webpage which has the PDF version of the
manual. I had information that appeared to tell me that the
posting had no HP permission. I believe the information I
received is accurate. This is why I posted this. I believe
someone wanted to turn the docs into a NDB or something
like that. It sounded like a wrong on top of another.

 > I've hesitated to make an issue out of it, but I believe the postings of
 > both the 200LX manual and the 200LX SDK are illegal. We (Thaddeus
 > Computing) worked long and hard to get permission from HP to reproduce
 > both the manual and the SDK.  The SDK had been held up for about nine
 > months and it looked like it was not going to be released.  (This was
 > during the Corvallis to Singapore transition).  We finally persuaded the
 > powers that be for us to be the exclusive manufacturer and distributor
 > of the SDK. We subsequently produced it on paper and later on our CD
 > Infobase. Jorgen and his team further refined it for use with HV on the
 > Palmtop (1999 CD Infobase).

I recall the incredible mess you had then and the great effort you
went through to make this happen. Alligator Wrestling
sounded like a cakewalk! :( ... I am also happy you
succeeded with the SDK.

 > HP let us scan in the 200LX manual for the CD Infobase.  In return they
 > got a number of CD's and the text file itself which HP wanted.  (The
 > original version was produced in some obseleted layout program.)
 >
 > Probably no significant harm is done (and maybe even some good happens)
 > to us and HP with the postings, which is why I hadn't said anything.
 > However, I don't really think it is right or legal.

I agree. Does Thaddeus also have the rights to the 200LX
Users Manual, or only the SDK?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:33:50 -0500
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Programming for non-programmer
Comments: To: profengr@DELANET.COM
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%99021922215603@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; from Robert H. Pigford
              on Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 10:21:55PM -0500
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i used to use turbo basic a lot, then switched to powerbasic when they
bought it from borland.  I have v3.0 and v3.2.  3.2 refuses to run on
my stock 200lx, 3.0 works fine.  trimmed down, all you need is the
file pbc + any extra libs you want to use.  I've found i need to setup
a dos session of ~370k to compile basic programs.

of course, i don't use the ide, just the compiler, so your mileage may
vary...

--francois


On Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 10:21:55PM -0500, Robert H. Pigford wrote:
> PowerBASIC also runs quite well on the HP200LX.  It is like QuickBASIC but
> with many, many more capabilities than QuickBASIC.  I think their site is
>
>         www.powerbasic.com
>
> I'm told that PowerBASIC uses it's own routines to address the HP200LX
> ports and does not use bios calls like their freeware(?) version FirstBASIC.
> PowerBASIC works within the I/O limitations of the HP200LX.  FirstBASIC
> is not so good (ex: FirstBASIC will not find the COMn or LPT ports
> correctly). I have version 3.5 of PowerBASIC.  PB.EXE is 350,603 bytes.  With
> ancillary setup and other files, it might go a meg or meg and a half, but I
> never tried to trim it to the bone.
>
> I can't say it is perfect, but I highly recommend PowerBASIC.
>
>         Regards,
>         Bob Pigford
>
> > LXB is a great program but I still find little annoying limitations when it
> > comes to string manipulation and file handling. It's to be familiar with a
> > few languages so that you can get what you need done. I use LXBatch, ASIC
> > and Foxpro. ASIC is nice because it is BASIC language and easy to learn.
> > Many people have taken intro to BASIC in school can pick it up right away.
> > It also has some annoying limitations but one thing that is great about it
> > is that it is _SMALL_. If you take out the help file and IDE it will fit in
> > < 100K. it also creates really tiny .com files.
> >
> > Foxpro is a monster. It's huge and a little slow but great for writing
> > database apps.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ed Keefe İmailto:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> > > Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 6:22 AM
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > > Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Programming for non-programmer
> > >
> > >
> > > You left out the easiest one to use: LXBatch 3.0
> > >
> > > It should do exactly what you want to do and the results will
> > > look like you
> > > spent years learning C and the months mastering the SDK.  If
> > > it takes more
> > > than a couple of days to get something up and running, I'd be
> > > surprised.
> > > The quickest way to get it is to go to
> > > http://www.PalmtopPaper.com/download.htm  Put LXbatch in the
> > > search box and
> > > click Fetch!. You'll get a list of the programs that have
> > > been written with
> > > LXB along with the LXB 3.0 file by Rob Koenis.
> > >
> > > .ed.İPTP¨
> > >
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>
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 > Avi,
 > Please don't remove our ability to create and append to www.log.  I use
 > this to double check connect time to my ISP.

You are talking about the log created, recording start time
and stop time. I am talking about the debug log.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:41:05 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Genealogy programs?
Comments: To: Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <000901be5c75$fbc0d400$0601a8c0@m5.technoir.nu>

For what it is worth I have been using for years a DOS genealogy program
that work just fine on the HP.  It is relatively little known but very
capable with multiple charts, gedcom, error checking capabilities, etc.
It is called "Family Scrapbook"  Lately the author said he was going to a
windows version but the DOS versions (2.2 and ver 3) I believe are still
available at  ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/genealogy/ .

I found version 2 (fsb202-a.zip, fsb202-b.zip and fsb202-c.zip) to work
best but ver 3 also works fine.  I use both under MaxDOS with the
following command line which helps legibility in CGA: c:\-path-\fsb.exe
/nomouse /mono

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:16:52 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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Subject:      Re: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps
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Email messages are uncompressed text files. Your modem will compress the
online data when compression is activated. To make a good test, you have to
download the same zipped file of minimum 1M with both modems. If it is
zipped, the compression won't work. Of course, the compression of a 33.6
modem can work better. But in real life you feel the differences only when
you download big files. HTML files and mails can be compressed by the modem.

-goe-

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Samstag, 20. Februar 1999 03:10
Subject: Re: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert H. Pigford <profengr@DELANET.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:04 PM
>Subject: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps
>
>
>Just wanted to share...
>
>Just tested my new 336E EXP ThinFax against my old Megahertz 14.4 kbps
>modem for downloading messages from the list.  I used wwww.log in WWW/LX
>to record elapsed time from Online (F5) thru Exit (Menu, Q) on my
>HP200LX T2 32Meg by Thaddeus.
>- Same modem setup commands for both. Max speed (38400) used (setup.exe).
>- HP200LX on ac power supply for both tests.
>
>EXP 336E PCMCIA:  Nominal  33.6 kbps
>        48 msgs took 148 seconds  => 3.08 sec/msg avg.
>
>Megahertz CC4144 PCMCIA:  Nominal 14.4 kbps
>        68 msgs took 243 seconds  => 3.57 sec/msg avg.
>
>The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
>for the 33.6 was worth it.  I hope 33.6 is significantly faster with
>file transfers.
>
>This isnt a truely accurate test, as messages can vary widely in size. its
>possible
>the average message size with the 33.6 was higher than on the 14.4. Just
>a thought.
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
>
>
>        Bob Pigford
>
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> So where did you get this 56K Optima?   How much?    =3DBob=3D

Good question! I _think_ that it was my local PC World store
here in the UK. (Obviously, I didn't buy it to use in my
palmtop!). As for the price, I'm afraid I really can't
remember - but, being in the UK, it was probably fairly
high... maybe around UKP150 (???), which would probably be
ths supposed equivalent of US$150! I might, however, be way
off there!

A couple of bad points, however. Firstly, Hayes have gone
bankrupt (again), so I'm not quite sure how wise it would be
buying from them at the moment. Also, I've noticed that its
power consumption might be too much for the palmtop - after
under half an hour of use, the LCD screen went noticeably
faint. Another time, running on mains power, I couldn't turn
the palmtop on with the modem inserted. When I removed the
modem, the HP had reset and gave the "Exiting Backup mode"
message.

Hope this helps,

 -Mike

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I am trying to connect my 200LX DS 32MB to my Win95b Desktop through
an Accton en2216 ethernet card.

Typing "net start" returns:
Microsoft Netbind version 2.1
Microsoft NetBEUI version 2.2
Type your user name, or press ENTER if it is Shaun
Type your password:*****
The command completed successfully.

Typing "net" returns:
the dialog box with no current connections active.

I am connected directly to the desktop with a cross over cable.

Can someone please point me in the direction I need to go to find
where the connection is failing.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:07:47 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Other Alarm Programs for the 95LX...
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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, David Ball wrote:

>
> >> >What about using the custom alarm feature?
> >>
> >> This sounds exactly what I'm looking for?  What is it and how do
> >> you modify it?
>
> >                        ...the manual has a pretty
> >good description of it.  Have a look at page 3-22.
>
> Are we talking about the same manual here?  The manual for my
> 95LX has a page 3-3 but not a page 3-22.  Are you possibly
> talking about the 200LX manual here?

Oh my.  I'm certainly guilty of not reading the Subject header,
and more than likely of providing incorrect information.  Yes,
I was talking about the 200LX.  The 95LX may not have the custom
alarm option.  On the 200LX it is under Options, Alarm Beep.

I apologize to everyone.

Ted

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Accton connection problems - LX to Win95
Comments: To: Shaun Gilbert <shaun.g@XTRA.CO.NZ>
In-Reply-To:  <36cfa33d.527077@smtp.xtra.co.nz>; from Shaun Gilbert on Sat,
              Feb 20, 1999 at 12:14:29PM +0000
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> I am trying to connect my 200LX DS 32MB to my Win95b Desktop through
> an Accton en2216 ethernet card.
<snip>
> Typing "net" returns:
> the dialog box with no current connections active.

It seems to be working, but you are not finished yet. Now, you have to
actually make drive and printer connections using the net utility. This
only has to be done once as the program will save your mappings for the
next time you log in. If you don't see any available connections in the
net utility, then you don't have file and printer sharing turned on at
your Win95 box. You will need to do this first before you can do the
mappings on your 200LX. Then, you can map as many drives and printers on the
200LX as you have available on the Win95 machine. This will work for anything
shareable: zip drive, hard disk, floppy, CD-ROM, printer, etc.

--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:38:43 -0500
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              "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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I just joined this list a couple of days ago after doing a search on HP200
and Outlook and have finished searching your archives on the topic.

Please count me in to support beta testing a 200 <--> Outlook program.

I just tried to upload from the 200 to Outlook98 without success yesterday.
I converted the .ADB to .CSV and imported to Outlook without error messages,
but also without appointments.

Some questions that I have are:

1.  Do we understand the underlying data structure of the .adb file?

2.  Is there a good program that allows you to look at the hex contents of a
file?  XTREE Gold had a feature that would allow you to see the map of the
file.  Very nice for deciphering the exact contents.

3.  I note that .csv format files do not support recurring appointments from
Outlook.  I believe that this may also be a problem in exporting from the
200.  Has anyone else investigated this issue?

4.  DATE/TIME Format - I note that the date and time fields are formatted
differently in the .csv files.  In the HP output, dates are written as
19990102 and time as 1400.  The same appointment from Outlook is defined as
1/2/99 and 2:00:00 PM.  To the person who has successfully translated
betweeen 200 and Outlook, did you reformat the data fields?

This investigation is very timely from my point of view.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:38:14 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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If you have CPACK there's no need to get involved in having anything
to do with the structure of ADB files. I move transactions to and
from my 200 into and out of outlook all the time with simple
CSV files. The Xlate/Merge facility in CPACK is sufficient to handle
all of this, once you figure out the formats for the sub fields like
date and time (easy enough to do from both products by just
experimenting with a couple of appointments.).

L. Brooks wrote:
>
> I just joined this list a couple of days ago after doing a search on HP200
> and Outlook and have finished searching your archives on the topic.
>
> Please count me in to support beta testing a 200 <--> Outlook program.
>
> I just tried to upload from the 200 to Outlook98 without success yesterday.
> I converted the .ADB to .CSV and imported to Outlook without error messages,
> but also without appointments.
>
> Some questions that I have are:
>
> 1.  Do we understand the underlying data structure of the .adb file?
>
> 2.  Is there a good program that allows you to look at the hex contents of a
> file?  XTREE Gold had a feature that would allow you to see the map of the
> file.  Very nice for deciphering the exact contents.
>
> 3.  I note that .csv format files do not support recurring appointments from
> Outlook.  I believe that this may also be a problem in exporting from the
> 200.  Has anyone else investigated this issue?
>
> 4.  DATE/TIME Format - I note that the date and time fields are formatted
> differently in the .csv files.  In the HP output, dates are written as
> 19990102 and time as 1400.  The same appointment from Outlook is defined as
> 1/2/99 and 2:00:00 PM.  To the person who has successfully translated
> betweeen 200 and Outlook, did you reformat the data fields?
>
> This investigation is very timely from my point of view.
>
> L. Brooks
>
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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:03:30 -0600
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              Arthur Hu <arthurhu@HALCYON.COM>
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On 1999-02-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >hi,
   >I'm on the market for a 32 or 48Mg compact  card for the LX.
   >What is the best price I can find,
   >and witch model is beter.
   >regards from australia
   >regards
   >Alain
   >Al
   >Wyn@comcen.com.au
   >Melbourne / Australia
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pc connections has 48m for $150

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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I use Personal Rexx from Quercus Systems, www.quercus-sys.com.
There is a free demo at their web site.  It is limited to
programs of 50 lines though and you only get the Rexx
interpreter but not all the rest of the utulity programs.

The IBM Rexx is noticably faster and will be cheaper if you can
find a copy.

Russ

> What Rexx do you run on the 200, and where can it be found?
>
> Russel Brooks wrote:
> >
> > Rexx is EXCELLENT because it was designed for the novice.  You

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:02:39 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 11:26 AM
Subject: Help - Double Slot Use


>I want to use my double-slot in my office setup (not on the road) as
>follows:
>
>(1) use the external power supply provided with the unit
>(2) mount my 160MB flash card (Simple Tech) in one slot
>(3) Mount my Acton ethernet card in the other.
>
>I've never used my double slot card before, and would like to
>hear from others before I waste too much time.  I've downloaded
>a patch for double-speed machines, which I have.  Also I have
>a 32MB upgraded unit.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Chris Lott
>
Chris, if you bought the doubleslot recently, you should not need the patch
for doublespeed. I bought my Dslot almost a year ago and don't need the
patch, or it makes no difference if I use it.

My late reply probably means you've already tried your iuntended setup. I'd
be interested to know how it went. I had troubles with wwwlx 2.0 using flash
as the storage space with a modem in the double slot - seems like something
to do with timing of the PCMCIA read/writes. No combo of CIC drivers or that
DS patch helped - though I think I remember nettamer working ok. I hold out
hope that the latest version of WWWLX might fix the prob.

All in all I am pleased with the doubleslot. Makes a nice place to dock the
lx. Something I'll mention but not recommend is that the lx and doubleslot,
while powered only by the lx on the ac adaptor will actually spin up and run
my pcmcia hard drive for 5 min before screen fade! (for emergencies)

Good luck,
Darren.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:24:01 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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I have given a workout to Software Carousel and seem to have to retire
it. The memory constraints are just too severe. While it is convenient
to have all the important software at hand all the time, dealing with
the consequences of a major crash is a nuisance. It's almost like
Windows environment - seems stable, then lets you down on your busiest
day.

It's actually not SC itself, but other programs that run out of memory.
One of such crashes (caused by dBase) had even damaged doublespeed
structures, with unpleasant sequelae.

I've encountered the same problem in many different computers and software
configurations. (And not just computers, come to think of it.) Things
are nice and neat and smooth, until you give them a real business
test. Then weak links begin to identify themselves, and eat you time.

Am I the only one with such a jaundiced view? Am I asking too much -
that software and hardware just work and let me do my business, instead
of an endless setup procedure?

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:41:22 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I largely agree. I gave up on the earlier version of SC for my 6mb/2x LX and
many other "extender" programs which tended to collide with things I commonly
used.

To be honest, I haven't tried the latest incarnation of Super SC...but I hardly
need it for what I do. I liked what you said about "letting you down on your
busiest day"...computers and Murphy's Law seem to go hand-in-hand for me also,
so simple works better for me.

Clearly, YMMV depending on your mix of apps and the resources you have available
(RAM and disk space), so I'm perfectly content with someone else saying SC is
"bullet-proof"...maybe for them and the way they work, but not for everyone.

Intelligent users will pick and choose the tools that gets the work done and
toss the rest. That's why the one common link here is that little gray box
(regardless of what else is in it).

- Longden





Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET> on 02/20/99 11:24:01 AM

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Subject:  Endless setup - rhetorical




I have given a workout to Software Carousel and seem to have to retire
it. The memory constraints are just too severe. While it is convenient
to have all the important software at hand all the time, dealing with
the consequences of a major crash is a nuisance. It's almost like
Windows environment - seems stable, then lets you down on your busiest
day.

It's actually not SC itself, but other programs that run out of memory.
One of such crashes (caused by dBase) had even damaged doublespeed
structures, with unpleasant sequelae.

I've encountered the same problem in many different computers and software
configurations. (And not just computers, come to think of it.) Things
are nice and neat and smooth, until you give them a real business
test. Then weak links begin to identify themselves, and eat you time.

Am I the only one with such a jaundiced view? Am I asking too much -
that software and hardware just work and let me do my business, instead
of an endless setup procedure?

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:55:38 -0500
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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>Folks,
>
>I'm not much of a programmer. So those who are
>programmer this is directed at you.
>

>Howabout at program that could take standard html
>files and compress them and then a HV type program
>that could view the compressed files.
>
Well, if it's size yer worried about I THINK a couple of those progs that
make self extracting compressed files out of text files with the use of a
small TSR. Basically the file uncompresses when accessed and then
re-compresses when closed. I forget which one does it though.

Darren.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:24:00 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps
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Stephan Goeldi writes:

 > Email messages are uncompressed text files. Your modem will compress the
 > online data when compression is activated. To make a good test, you have to
 > download the same zipped file of minimum 1M with both modems.

I think it is exaggerated by a lot! You'll probably find
somewhat different values, but the most restrictive part of
the test is that the palmtop CANNOT use the full 33.6
speed!!! Let's get real, it helps :)

 > Of course, the compression of a 33.6
 > modem can work better.

Really? You mean if I have a 1MB text file the 14.4 modem
might compress it to 50%, but the 33.6 will get as much as
say 80% compression? You cannot mean this, do you? Maybe
you mean the 33.6 compresses faster? I doubt that this is
a big difference, since it is done on a packet basis, and
they are small relatiley, so your overhead in the process
becomes an overwhelming part of the time.

 > But in real life you feel the differences only when
 > you download big files. HTML files and mails can be compressed by the modem.

I beg to differ! I get 200 emails per day and compression
or not makes almost no difference in time. Also, when
compared to a similar monolithic d/l of the same size, i.e.
1MB file vs 500 messages of 2K each is not siginificantly
different.

The reason is that the Internet is not just a direct
connection between your machine and the peer. Packets
travel all over and take different routes, sometimes
surprisingly circuitous. A message of 1MB can download
rapidly, except one packet which is still being delayed
somewhere on a server along the route. Until that one
packet arrives, the 1MB download is not complete. Another
such download immediately after the first can have
COMPLETELY different routes and the timing will be
completely different.

So rather than measuring a monolithic download you want to
measure a "representative workload". Yours will be
different than mine. In addition, this workload measurement
must be repeated many many times to account for all the
craziness of Internet, the different times, and so on.

All this means that the numbers we got are a nice idea, and
they are fine to use. To make the assertion it is invalid
and only a 1MB file transfer timing is, is a little out of
whack: I rarely download such files!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
 >
 > -goe-
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
 > Date: Samstag, 20. Februar 1999 03:10
 > Subject: Re: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps
 >
 > >-----Original Message-----
 > >From: Robert H. Pigford <profengr@DELANET.COM>
 > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
 > >Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:04 PM
 > >Subject: Comparing 33.6 kbps and 14.4 kbps
 > >
 > >
 > >Just wanted to share...
 > >
 > >Just tested my new 336E EXP ThinFax against my old Megahertz 14.4 kbps
 > >modem for downloading messages from the list.  I used wwww.log in WWW/LX
 > >to record elapsed time from Online (F5) thru Exit (Menu, Q) on my
 > >HP200LX T2 32Meg by Thaddeus.
 > >- Same modem setup commands for both. Max speed (38400) used (setup.exe).
 > >- HP200LX on ac power supply for both tests.
 > >
 > >EXP 336E PCMCIA:  Nominal  33.6 kbps
 > >        48 msgs took 148 seconds  => 3.08 sec/msg avg.
 > >
 > >Megahertz CC4144 PCMCIA:  Nominal 14.4 kbps
 > >        68 msgs took 243 seconds  => 3.57 sec/msg avg.
 > >
 > >The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
 > >for the 33.6 was worth it.  I hope 33.6 is significantly faster with
 > >file transfers.
 > >
 > >This isnt a truely accurate test, as messages can vary widely in size. its
 > >possible
 > >the average message size with the 33.6 was higher than on the 14.4. Just
 > >a thought.
 > >
 > >Dan
 > >driden@stlnet.com
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >        Bob Pigford
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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:28:06 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Me, three. I bought SC donkey's years ago and it crashed (probably,
I suppose, due to some stupidity of mine like changing something in
one session when I forgot I had it open in another) and I realized that
   (1) It encouraged me to use it in some way that ended up being
       punished for;
   (2) I couldn't quite figure out what I would end up by being able
       to do, that I couldn't do otherwise and that I really needed to
       do; and
   (3) While it might add a tiny + by working perfectly, it had already
       added a huge - by screwing up, and I figured this would probably
       continue, for me at least.

Perhaps I am intrinsically a `single thread' person. I tend to close
things when I am done with them. I don't tend, I guess, to be using
my Palmtop simultaneously for several things, and, on top of it all
the HP200 (and I still have only a single speed) seems fast enough
for the kind of things I use it for, so I don't mind ending one thing
and then starting another.

So, I third Mikhail's (and Longden's) observation. Let me offer
a possibly related extension to chew on (I'm not sure if this is a
corollary, or a lemma, or simply an unrelated observation) but I
have also found myself giving up on attempts to stretch technologies
(both hardware and software) far beyond their original intention.

I went thru a period where I used \TeX for everything. I might even
have tried to write a C-Compiler in \TeX. Given the flexibility and
power, it is probably doable, but it sure would be a struggle.
I went thru a period where I used APL for everything. Then there was
my Psion-XP (long pre-Psion3) period. Then my HP48 period. Then my HP200
period. (You can tell how old I am because I have been thru so many
`periods').

When my cable modem arrived, I was momentarily tempted to see if I
could get my 200 to talk to it, but good sense prevailed and I simply
did nothing until the urge passed. Lately I've been stretching fewer
limits, and trying to use hardware and software of appropriate size
and character to the problems that I face. I find it (1) less
challenging; but (2) a substantial relief.

Of course everyone's MMV...

Longden Loo wrote:
>
> I largely agree. I gave up on the earlier version of SC for my 6mb/2x LX and
> many other "extender" programs which tended to collide with things I commonly
> used.
>
> ... <snip of Longden's comment on...>
>
> Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET> on 02/20/99 11:24:01 AM
>

<snip of original observation>

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 20:42:34 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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As a result of having far too much spare time on my hands
for my own good, I've thrown together a few pages relating
exclusively to games for the 95/100/200 LX machines. No
serious stuff here!

Included on the site are some shareware and freeware games
that work well on the palmtop, along with a mercifully short
selection of my very own "creations"! (Please, be
understanding! I'm new to programming!). The imaginatively
titled "HP LX Fun! Factory" can be found at:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/plaza/aj93/waggy/hp/

Incidentally, I hope the maintainers of the sites that I've
linked to don't mind - if you do, just let me know! All
comments, questions, etc are welcome! I hope you like the
site!

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:28:30 -0500
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              mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.RR.COM>
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After that article in the Palmtop Paper, you might be looking for help/support
in using Agenda.

I have set up the PIMlist for this purpose.  On this list are over 150 Agenda
users, many of which also use the 200LX.

Got to the following site for more information:

http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/list.htm


_________________________________________

  Michael Stocker <mdstockr@neo.rr.com>
_________________________________________

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Date:         Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:55:33 -0500
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              "Steven A. Zedeck" <saz@JLC.NET>
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Hi:
Does anyone know whether there exists an application
that allows you to synchronize the HP200LX with MS Outlook
while in a Win98 or NT operating system ?

I'd like to easily export and sync my address/phone books
on the HP200LX and my PC.

Thanks in advance,
Steven

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:16:50 -0500
Reply-To:     "wally@pop.uky.edu" <wally@pop.uky.edu>
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Organization: Completely disorganized...
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Well, I can't thank David enough, but he has been gracious enough to give
me an awesome domain for my webpage, it's the same ole bland webpage, but
it's up and it's working.

Http://wally.hplx.net  I am hoping I can get a redirector going on the old
webpage, hopefully they will be nice enough to do that for me.  But let me
know if you find anything funky (besides dead links to other pages, I gotta
clean that up sometime too..)

Hope to have new stuff on there soon, such as a new version of LXPGP and
perhaps some more palmtop help and information.

Thanks again David, and thanks to you all for as many hits my page has
recieved.

Cheers!

--
Walter Francis
HTTP://wally.hplx.net

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:22:54 -0600
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I just got an HP200LX, second-hand via http://www.ebay.com/,
and a serial cable from Thaddeusİ1¨. Now I'm trying to tranfer
my data...

So I grab
ADBIO (43 K) added 12/06/97   (Import-Export)
Version 1.2 by Andreas Garzotto
http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/adbio12.zip

and

LX Tools (16 K) added 01/09/97   (Connectivity)
Version 1.1a by Andreas Garzotto
http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/lxtools.tgz

from S.U.P.E.R (http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html)
and build them on my linux box.
(Great stuff by the way! Thanks for releasing source!)


I read the .DOCs in adbio... and
create a one-line file with an appointment I want to load:


"1999.02.23","Humphries home group?","",135,"19:00","21:00",0,5,"508 E.
Howard # 171 242-2530 *31Jan NWF, 11Feb MAry"

Then I do:

% ./adbload day.csv day.adb

and

% lxcopy day.adb c:/9903pim

and press APPT on the hp200lx, then do {menu}fm
and select day.adb to merge. The hourglass comes up for
a sec, and then my hopes are dashed:

        Record not found

                OK


Help?


İ1¨ in case anybody else is also looking all over
the net for inexpensive HP200lx serial cables,
just go to http://www.palmtoppaper.com/
and put 'cable' in the search box... you get:

Connectivity
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cart/shop/connect.htm

HP Connectivity Cable (100/200LX) (New) (SOS) $ 24.95
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=cart.htm/item=81/buy=1

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OK... so now I've got my linux box talking to
my Sony DSC-F1 and HP200LX via the serial cable,
(thanks to lxtools and stillgrab!
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~mackay/dscf1.html#linux
LX Tools (16 K) added 01/09/97   (Connectivity)
Version 1.1a by Andreas Garzotto =

http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/lxtools.tgz )

But they all three have IR ports... has anybody
gotten any two of the three talking via IR?


I found Markus Schill's Jun 1998 experience report where
he got some low-level communication between linux
and a sony DSC-F1... any progress since then?
http://www.snafu.de/~wehe/ir_misc.html#6
http://bolowsky.ita.chalmers.se/linux-ir/0143.html

What protocol does the HP200LX talk on its IR port?
How do you access the IR port as a software
developer?

I looked all over; the closest I got was stuff like:

Handheld Systems=99 On-line Archives
http://www.cdpubs.com/hhsys/archives.html

and searching for "infra" in the SUPER archive...
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/sup-srch.pl?case=3Di&search_phrase=3Dinfra=
&whichCat=3DAll&method=3Dwords&boolean=3Dor&sort=3Ddate

I found
IRDA Printer Drivers (20 K) added 10/13/97   (Driver)
Version 1.097 by Nicholas Chan =


but that's just a binary, not source.

Aha! This one has source...

RemKey (36 K) added 11/22/96   (Keyboard)
Version 1.10 by Craig Payne =

RemKey is a small program which allows the keyboard of one
PC to act as the keyboard of another PC through a wired
or infrared serial link. Freeware. =


=2E.. but it's in assembly. I might be able to learn
something from it, but... are there any higher-level
interfaces?

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:29:00 -0800
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One minor note... for WWW/LX users, Wally's new site may be accessed at
http://www.hplx.net/wally/ since virtual domains are not yet supported in
WWW/LX.

It seems that WWW/LX and my server are having other problems as well
recently.  I'm working on fixing them.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:23:18 +0100
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>the most restrictive part of
>the test is that the palmtop CANNOT use the full 33.6
>speed!!!

that's right, but if you use a PCMCIA serialport, it will.

>Really? You mean if I have a 1MB text file the 14.4 modem
>might compress it to 50%, but the 33.6 will get as much as
>say 80% compression? You cannot mean this, do you?

No, I don't mean this. My expression, that the compression
of a 33.6 modem works better is wrong. It is the interaction
between PC and Modem that is faster. No matter how fast
the line speed is.

> > But in real life you feel the differences only when
> > you download big files. HTML files and mails can be compressed by the
modem.
>
>I beg to differ! I get 200 emails per day and compression
>or not makes almost no difference in time. Also, when
>compared to a similar monolithic d/l of the same size, i.e.
>1MB file vs 500 messages of 2K each is not siginificantly
>different.

If you receive 200 mails, think of the additional 'begin' and 'end' codes
for each
interaction with the server.

>The reason is that the Internet is not just a direct
>connection between your machine and the peer. Packets
>travel all over and take different routes, sometimes
>surprisingly circuitous. A message of 1MB can download
>rapidly, except one packet which is still being delayed
>somewhere on a server along the route.

Do you think, this is true too, if you have a POP3 connection
to your ISP? Of course, if you use a Mailservice like Hotmail
or gmx.net, it will travel on any route on the web.

So Avi is true: If you use the Modem on the serial port,
it doesn't matter a lot if you have a 14.4 or a 33.6, because the
LX has no FIFO buffer. Especially if you use
it mainly for mails.

But if you use a PCMCIA-Modem or a PCMCIA-Serialport,
it makes a big difference. Those will use a FIFO buffer. The FIFO buffer
can hold data, while the LX makes an interrupt. If you have no FIFO buffer
(like the serial port on the LX), then the datastream would be
broken by the PC-hardware-interrupt (he has to do this interrupt while
saving on the disk). Because the datastream breaks, the lost part has to
be sent again. The data protocol interpretes this as a line problem and goes
down with speed. As I remember, the save speed without FIFO is about
9600 bps. You can check any PC for example with MSD.EXE. Have a look
on the serial ports. If it is a 8250, it has no FIFO. The 16450 and 16550
have a FIFO buffer.

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>Basically the file uncompresses when accessed and then
>re-compresses when closed. I forget which one does it though.


It is called "diet". You will find it on the super-page.
http://www.palmtop.net/

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I just downloaded 'Diet' from the SUPER site. The
instructions for it's use appear to be in something
other than English. Could someone give a brief
explanation on how to use it, or possibly direct me
to a site that has the instructions.

TIA,
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David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:

Re: copy from disk 1 to disk 2 in a sinlge floppy drive:
> İsnip¨ I must admit that
> the idea of using a single floppy machine to copy floppy -> floppy
> tended to pretty much die with the arrival of HDs. It was so much
> faster to copy Floppy ->HD and then HD -> floppy than it was to
> use copy A: =3D> B: that it's usefulness was only short lived (_very_
> short lived).

If you need to make a disk image of a floppy disk, it is still
the only way. The HD is used by later versions of DOS to store a
temporary copy of the image, so you need to change disks only
once, but the command is still copydisk a: a:

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Ronald Fenton <ronald.fenton@UTORONTO.CA> wrote:

> A recent exposure to airport xray machines appears to have partly
> scrambled my EXP 1414 modem/data card

My 100LX has been through x-ray machines hundreds of time with
no data loss.

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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET> wrote:

> Some of the problems blamed on airport xrays are caused by the
> magnetic fields of the motors that drive belt that drags your
> stuff thru the xray scanner.
>
> I usually ask for my 200LX to be checked separately away from
> the scanner.  Usually all they ask is that I turn it on.

Magnetic fields from X-ray machines _might_ damage data on
magnetic media, such as hard and floppy disks, but there is
nothing in the LX that can be damaged by magnetic fields.

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Peter W <peterw@CLARK.NET> wrote:

> Today I got a catalog from a company called "1-800-batteries" that =
sells all kinds
> of mobile computing gadgets. I've never dealt with them, and prices =
seem kinda
> high, but what caught my eye was a $129 USD 56k (k56flex/v.90) pocket =
modem

This is not really a pocket modem as many of us would define
one. It does not operate on internal batteries, but from an
external AC adapter. The manufacturer does have an external
battery pack with NiCad battery for about $50. They also said
they would have a version of the modem that operates from
internal AA cells in about 6 months.

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Thanks for the reply David.  I do have CPACK so converting the ADB files to
CSV is no problem.  My interest in the data structure format of the ADB file
was to go directly to the format that Outlook desired.  If I'm going to
write a program, I might as well make it a one step process.  (I still write
small .exe files using Turbo Pascal from 1985.  Since it was designed for
the PC-XT with the 8087 processor, it still makes good code for the 200.)

As I noted below, the numerical formats for date and time seem incompatible
(though you seem to have overcome this hurdle).

What are you doing to convert the date and time formats from 200LX to
Outlook format?  A routine in Excel perhaps?  When I tried to import into
Outlook, I was not successful.  I'm assuming that it was because of the
format mismatch.

Issue:           Date         Time
-----------      --------     ----------
ADB (CSV)        19990102     1400
Outlook (CSV)    1/2/99       2:00:00 PM

Perhaps I'm missing something very simple (I hope).

Thanks in advance for your reply.

L. Brooks

> -----Original Message-----
> From:  David Ness
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 1999 12:38 PM
> > snip > >
>
> If you have CPACK there's no need to get involved in having anything
> to do with the structure of ADB files. I move transactions to and
> from my 200 into and out of outlook all the time with simple
> CSV files. The Xlate/Merge facility in CPACK is sufficient to handle
> all of this, once you figure out the formats for the sub fields like
> date and time (easy enough to do from both products by just
> experimenting with a couple of appointments.).
>
> L. Brooks wrote:
> >
> > snip  > >
> > 4.  DATE/TIME Format - I note that the date and time fields are
> formatted
> > differently in the .csv files.  In the HP output, dates are written as
> > 19990102 and time as 1400.  The same appointment from Outlook
> is defined as
> > 1/2/99 and 2:00:00 PM.  To the person who has successfully translated
> > between 200 and Outlook, did you reformat the data fields?
> >
> > snip > >

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Despite bad news from some users concerning SC I must say:

"SC is the most important piece of software running on my LX!"

I would never give it away for any reason and never had any
problems using it, and I think I am a power user. It is like
having 5 palmtops in front of you, each doing a different task.
But instead of 5 palmtops it's all in one with hotkeys to
switch to the different sessions.

If I had any problems concerning SC in conjunction with other
software, I would tend to replace this other software, but not
SC.

In one session I have constantly running WWW/LX, the second
important program, I would never give up.

I could give up all built in applications and replace them with
other similar software, but not these two!

Stefan

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<<Used 200LX's from Thaddeus are probably no more expensive than new
1000's.
You might want to take another look.   >>

I hate to say it but we are now backordered on used 200LX's.  We had
made a big buy of 200LX's, but unfortunately about half were not up to
quality standards, and we used them for parts for repairs.  We still get
them in, but the demand is now greater than the supply.

If anyone knows a source (eg Holland trains) of HP 200LX's for sale or
wants to "upgrade" 200LX's to Windows CE devices, we are most interested
in buying them or taking them in trade ---contact me - hal@thaddeus.com
or 800 373 6114.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:59:12 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Digital Camera and 200LX page (Came for DOS readme)

Al Kind writes:
>      I think there was post a while ago, but it deserves bringing up
> again! I use it w/ my EPSON PhotoPC 600 all the time (well, when I'm
> not using a CF anyway ;-) )

Perhaps that was me, advertisng my Palmtop - Digital Camera page
It is focussed at my Olympus camera, but it serves all compatibles as well.
Not too long ago it was completely updated, and covers all PD and cheap
shareware which runs on DOS ... W98, which can be downloaded instantly.
Also with some batch examples!


If you like you may have a look at

http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw


Daniel Kropveld
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I wrote some code a while back... maybe it can be of some use.

I understand a lot more about COM now, so feel free to use me for technical
assistance.

Cheers,

- Joe

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From: Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 1998 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Synchronizing with Outlook


> Several people seem to be working on direct solutions. If anyone
> develops a strong Outlook to 200LX synchronization solution and is
> interested in selling it commercially, we will market it for you.

And if anyone wants to use the code I've written, I've put it all under
<http://users.lanminds.com/~jsb/outloox>
http://users.lanminds.com/~jsb/outloox - including the new super secret C++
code that uses OLE to read the contact info directly out of Outlook (without
requiring the user to perform the File, Export, ... step). One can either
directly copy the #pragma used for native COM support, or copy the
applicable function definitions out of Debug\msout85.tlh.

I'd love to finish the Outlook package myself, but (1) I have a day job, and
(2) if I tried selling anything (to recoup the time I've spent so far), I'd
get in trouble with Microsoft for "moonlighting".

Cheers,

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We had this discussion already a few month ago, so this is for
new members of the list:

The serial port of a doublespeed LX is capable of datatransfers
with 115200 baud without any problem or loss of characters.

If it does not work or loss of characters occurs, then this is
due to the software, serving the serial port and not the
hardware.

I am sure about that because I see transfers rates at 115200
baud every day using Eric Meyer's ZIP transfer program. I can
download a 1MB file to the palmtop in 90 seconds. This is very
close to 115200 baud and even includes saving the file to disk.

Serial port transfer programs must:

1) put the serial port into interrupt mode
2) use a transfer protocol

Point 1) assures, that the computer interrupts any running
program when a character is available and calls an interrupt
service routine to put the received character into a buffer
prepared by the software.

Point 2) assures, that once the buffer is filled, the software
can say to the sending end: please stop for a moment, I have to
write my buffer to the disk. I'll inform you when I'm done.
This is also called handshake. Various forms of hardware and
software handshake exist.

That this works is proven by the above mentioned assembler
program ZIP and several other communication programs I wrote
in my profession as a programmer.

However if a program is written in C or a worse lanuage ;-)
it is possible that the interrupt service routine which has
to put the received character into the buffer, takes so long,
that another character is already available before this service
routine saved the previous. Then indeed you loose (overrun)
characters and have to use a lower speed in order to give the
service routine more time.

NOTE: The service routine has to be supplied by the software
which wants to use the serial port in interrupt mode, it is not
built into ROM! It is ABSOLUTELY crucial, that this routine is
optimized for SPEED, which can only be done in ASSEMBLER if
your hardware is not at least a 486!

The code overhead of a C program compared to an optimized
assembler program can easily be at a factor of 10, meaning the
C service routine takes 10 times as long as necessary.

Hope this clarified some things!

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Greetings All:

     I finally got around to fixing the HPLX-L subscription form on
the additional quote marks to the code. While IE & WWW/LX seemed to
work fine, NetScape did not recognize the form correctly. Sorry it
took so long to fix.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:56:29 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: OutLook beta testing
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L. Brooks wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply David.  I do have CPACK so converting the ADB files to
> CSV is no problem.  My interest in the data structure format of the ADB file
> was to go directly to the format that Outlook desired.  If I'm going to
> write a program, I might as well make it a one step process.  (I still write
> small .exe files using Turbo Pascal from 1985.  Since it was designed for
> the PC-XT with the 8087 processor, it still makes good code for the 200.)
>
> As I noted below, the numerical formats for date and time seem incompatible
> (though you seem to have overcome this hurdle).
>
> What are you doing to convert the date and time formats from 200LX to
> Outlook format?  A routine in Excel perhaps?  When I tried to import into
> Outlook, I was not successful.  I'm assuming that it was because of the
> format mismatch.
>
> Issue:           Date         Time
> -----------      --------     ----------
> ADB (CSV)        19990102     1400
> Outlook (CSV)    1/2/99       2:00:00 PM
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something very simple (I hope).
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply.
>
> L. Brooks
>

I see no advantage in dabbling with the complexity of .ADBs. Smart
money, it seems to me, is on letting HP software translate into and
out of this format. Reading .ADBs is difficult (because of all kinds
of complexity associated with recurring events, etc. IIRC) and writing
them is (nearly) impossible---one wrong bit here or there and you
can freeze your 200 dead in its tracks.

Also, making things a `one step process', while understandable at one
level, is usually a bad idea. The more each piece of software does,
the more likely it is to have to change when *anything* changes.
I'd do things in several steps, but then time them all together with
a .BAT or something to make it easy on the people involved, but allowing
the various pieces of software to each focus on their narrow tasks.

Restructuring text fields is the core of what PERL is all about.
Larry Wall's original problem, IIRC, was just this kind of
incompatability across several different `systems administrator reports'
that he wanted to merge into consolidated reports.

PERL makes recognition of `fields' easy, and makes modification of
the fields according to rote rules easy as well.

Of course, there are myriad other possibilities. AWK would work.
SED would probably be ok. EMacs could certainly do the job. Most BASICs
would not have a very hard time with it. APL, J and K could actually do
the restructuring as well, although it would be a bit more obscure.

In any event, I use PERL for this particular step.

Sidebar: A couple of comments on HP200/Outlook might be relevant just
for perspective.

Moving my current appointment list .ADB from the HP into Outlook
takes 15 seconds on my Dell 200 to go from .ADB into CSV (.CDS).
My process takes 4 seconds to produce the 127k file ready for Outlook.
Outlook takes 41 seconds to load the items. I have 1455 items in the
current file, in an .ADB of about 130k. Total time 1 minute, but
adding the (few) keystrokes to move from step to step makes it really
take about a minute and a half.

As time passes I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable with Outlook.
I have no idea of how it organizes information, but at the moment I
have about 380k in current and historical .ADBs and a 90K name and
address file. I keep my past calendars in appropriately named
subfolders in Outlook (`1995', `1996', ...) Somehow this appears to
translate into an 18mb (yes, 18 megabyte!) .PST file. I have no idea
what causes this apparent inflation from less than 0.5meg of raw data,
but it troubles me, and makes me realize that in the long run I don't
like to count on things that behave in ways that surprise me.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:59:47 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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L. Brooks wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply David.  I do have CPACK so converting the ADB files to
> CSV is no problem.  My interest in the data structure format of the ADB file
> was to go directly to the format that Outlook desired.  If I'm going to
> write a program, I might as well make it a one step process.  (I still write
> small .exe files using Turbo Pascal from 1985.  Since it was designed for
> the PC-XT with the 8087 processor, it still makes good code for the 200.)
>
> As I noted below, the numerical formats for date and time seem incompatible
> (though you seem to have overcome this hurdle).
>
> What are you doing to convert the date and time formats from 200LX to
> Outlook format?  A routine in Excel perhaps?  When I tried to import into
> Outlook, I was not successful.  I'm assuming that it was because of the
> format mismatch.
>
> Issue:           Date         Time
> -----------      --------     ----------
> ADB (CSV)        19990102     1400
> Outlook (CSV)    1/2/99       2:00:00 PM
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something very simple (I hope).
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply.
>
> L. Brooks
>

I see no advantage in dabbling with the complexity of .ADBs. Smart
money, it seems to me, is on letting HP software translate into and
out of this format. Reading .ADBs is difficult (because of all kinds
of complexity associated with recurring events, etc. IIRC) and writing
them is (nearly) impossible---one wrong bit here or there and you
can freeze your 200 dead in its tracks.

Also, making things a `one step process', while understandable at one
level, is usually a bad idea. The more each piece of software does,
the more likely it is to have to change when *anything* changes.
I'd do things in several steps, but then tie them all together with
a .BAT or something to make it easy on the people involved, but allowing
the various pieces of software to each focus on their narrow (and
thus debuggable) tasks.

Restructuring text fields is the core of what PERL is all about.
Larry Wall's original problem, IIRC, was just this kind of
incompatability across several different `systems administrator reports'
that he wanted to merge into consolidated reports.

PERL makes recognition of `fields' easy, and makes modification of
the fields according to rote rules easy as well.

Of course, there are myriad other possibilities. AWK would work.
SED would probably be ok. EMacs could certainly do the job. Most BASICs
would not have a very hard time with it. APL, J and K could actually do
the restructuring as well, although it would be a bit more obscure.

In any event, I use PERL for this particular step.

Sidebar: A couple of comments on HP200/Outlook might be relevant just
for perspective.

Moving my current appointment list .ADB from the HP into Outlook
takes 15 seconds on my Dell 200 to go from .ADB into CSV (.CDS).
My process takes 4 seconds to produce the 127k file ready for Outlook.
Outlook takes 41 seconds to load the items. I have 1455 items in the
current file, in an .ADB of about 130k. Total time 1 minute, but
adding the (few) keystrokes to move from step to step makes it really
take about a minute and a half.

As time passes I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable with Outlook.
I have no idea of how it organizes information, but at the moment I
have about 380k in current and historical .ADBs and a 90K name and
address file. I keep my past calendars in appropriately named
subfolders in Outlook (`1995', `1996', ...) Somehow this appears to
translate into an 18mb (yes, 18 megabyte!) .PST file. I have no idea
what causes this apparent inflation from less than 0.5meg of raw data,
but it troubles me, and makes me realize that in the long run I don't
like to count on things that behave in ways that surprise me.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:04:57 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "L. Brooks" <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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David,

Thanks for the outstanding and quick response.

1.  Your thoughts on not messing with that which already works is very valid
and obviously based in experience.

2.  I will do more investigation into PERL as I don't yet have any
familiarity with this language.

3.  Your comments re: Outlook are on the mark.  My real desire is to allow
me to upload my 200 calendar (and to-do if possible) to the PC to allow
higher quality printing of my calendar (month format primarily) to
communicate with other non-PC people who need to know my schedule.  Perhaps
another program would be more appropriate (Calendar Creator?).

Thoughts?,

L. Brooks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> David Ness
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:56 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: OutLook beta testing
>
>
> L. Brooks wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply David.  I do have CPACK so converting the
> ADB files to
> > CSV is no problem.  My interest in the data structure format of
> the ADB file
> > was to go directly to the format that Outlook desired.  If I'm going to
> > write a program, I might as well make it a one step process.
> (I still write
> > small .exe files using Turbo Pascal from 1985.  Since it was
> designed for
> > the PC-XT with the 8087 processor, it still makes good code for
> the 200.)
> >
> > As I noted below, the numerical formats for date and time seem
> incompatible
> > (though you seem to have overcome this hurdle).
> >
> > What are you doing to convert the date and time formats from 200LX to
> > Outlook format?  A routine in Excel perhaps?  When I tried to
> import into
> > Outlook, I was not successful.  I'm assuming that it was because of the
> > format mismatch.
> >
> > Issue:           Date         Time
> > -----------      --------     ----------
> > ADB (CSV)        19990102     1400
> > Outlook (CSV)    1/2/99       2:00:00 PM
> >
> > Perhaps I'm missing something very simple (I hope).
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your reply.
> >
> > L. Brooks
> >
>
> I see no advantage in dabbling with the complexity of .ADBs. Smart
> money, it seems to me, is on letting HP software translate into and
> out of this format. Reading .ADBs is difficult (because of all kinds
> of complexity associated with recurring events, etc. IIRC) and writing
> them is (nearly) impossible---one wrong bit here or there and you
> can freeze your 200 dead in its tracks.
>
> Also, making things a `one step process', while understandable at one
> level, is usually a bad idea. The more each piece of software does,
> the more likely it is to have to change when *anything* changes.
> I'd do things in several steps, but then time them all together with
> a .BAT or something to make it easy on the people involved, but allowing
> the various pieces of software to each focus on their narrow tasks.
>
> Restructuring text fields is the core of what PERL is all about.
> Larry Wall's original problem, IIRC, was just this kind of
> incompatability across several different `systems administrator reports'
> that he wanted to merge into consolidated reports.
>
> PERL makes recognition of `fields' easy, and makes modification of
> the fields according to rote rules easy as well.
>
> Of course, there are myriad other possibilities. AWK would work.
> SED would probably be ok. EMacs could certainly do the job. Most BASICs
> would not have a very hard time with it. APL, J and K could actually do
> the restructuring as well, although it would be a bit more obscure.
>
> In any event, I use PERL for this particular step.
>
> Sidebar: A couple of comments on HP200/Outlook might be relevant just
> for perspective.
>
> Moving my current appointment list .ADB from the HP into Outlook
> takes 15 seconds on my Dell 200 to go from .ADB into CSV (.CDS).
> My process takes 4 seconds to produce the 127k file ready for Outlook.
> Outlook takes 41 seconds to load the items. I have 1455 items in the
> current file, in an .ADB of about 130k. Total time 1 minute, but
> adding the (few) keystrokes to move from step to step makes it really
> take about a minute and a half.
>
> As time passes I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable with Outlook.
> I have no idea of how it organizes information, but at the moment I
> have about 380k in current and historical .ADBs and a 90K name and
> address file. I keep my past calendars in appropriately named
> subfolders in Outlook (`1995', `1996', ...) Somehow this appears to
> translate into an 18mb (yes, 18 megabyte!) .PST file. I have no idea
> what causes this apparent inflation from less than 0.5meg of raw data,
> but it troubles me, and makes me realize that in the long run I don't
> like to count on things that behave in ways that surprise me.
>
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>

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:45:02 -0500
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L. Brooks wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for the outstanding and quick response.
>
> 1.  Your thoughts on not messing with that which already works is very valid
> and obviously based in experience.
>

You're very welcome.

> 2.  I will do more investigation into PERL as I don't yet have any
> familiarity with this language.
>

I commend PERL to anyone with simple text `reorganizing' problems. It
is good for much more, of course, but (for me at least) it does have
the virtue of keeping simple things simple.

As you get into it, feel free to ask questions. You can get indepth
help on news:comp.lang.perl but you are unlikely to need their
depth (or tendency for obscurity). Most of the O`Reiley PERL books
are execllent in my experience.

>
> 3.  Your comments re: Outlook are on the mark.  My real desire is to allow
> me to upload my 200 calendar (and to-do if possible) to the PC to allow
> higher quality printing of my calendar (month format primarily) to
> communicate with other non-PC people who need to know my schedule.  Perhaps
> another program would be more appropriate (Calendar Creator?).
>
> Thoughts?,
>

I don't know. I have used \TeX for years in such situations, but
I *would not* recommend it, as it is too complex for what you'd get
out of it in this kind of case.

My personal evolution with calendars has taken a different turn of late.
I have tried (sometimes only very briefly) lots of calendar-related
programs (Time & Chaos, Zoot, Agenda, Ecco, Above & Beyond ...) and have
found them all wanting in important dimensions. I now keep the
`definitive' copy of my calendar in, of all things, a text file
which I then `blow out' to my HP200, my PalmPilot, my Libretto,
Outlook, ... Since the base file is simple Ascii, I write all kinds
of random remarks into this calendar, and I find that being able to
recover them from the `past' is a nice feature.

> L. Brooks
>

I seem to have had trouble with my dialogue `echoing' (i.e. generating
two copies---for which I apologize to you and the list) I'll see if
my sticky mouse key (or my ISP) can be fixed to only send one copy
this time.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:49:33 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:37:39 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.=
DE> wrote:


> If I had any problems concerning SC in conjunction with other
> software, I would tend to replace this other software, but not
> SC.
>
> In one session I have constantly running WWW/LX, the second
> important program, I would never give up.

I would have to agree with Stefan on this. Two thumbs up for
WWW/LX Plus and SC.

I was a strictly a DOSSHELL user up until about (3) weeks age. I had
battled with SC for also 3yrs. lock-ups, crashes ETC. This would go on =
for
weeks then I'd delete it and go back to using DOSSHELL.

But boredom would set in once again, then I'd give it yet another round.
This time I used Tremm and "no" on disk for storage, removed Maxdos from =
my
autoexec.bat and SC has been running fine for the past (3) weeks
(knock on wood). (:-)




Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
İhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:08:12 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Your note (and Stefan's as well) perhaps puts me on the track of
understanding why I can't figure out any use for SC while others
can't live life without it. This is something I'd like to understand
because I would hate to be passing up opportunities to do somthing
that would be useful, just because I am ignorant of the possibilities.

Both of you mention WWW/Lx, and clearly use your 200 for communications.
I can well imagine how having this up while you were doing other
things could be useful, particularly if you had any spare machine
cycles available after handling the COMS (do you, by the way?).
However, I usually `connect' with a cable modem (1Mb+) and _never_
connect at less than 57kb even if I have to use a phone, so I'm not
tempted to use my 200 for this. So I suppose one reason for finding
it useful goes away in my case.

What other processes are you likely to have open at the same time?
I would guess that 2/3 of the time that my HP is `awake' I am in
DOS editing a file, running a piece of PERL code or playing around
in the J or APL interpreters. The other 1/3 of the time I am in
Appointment Manager or in the Phone Book---although my cellular phone
now means that I use the phone book less and less, and I don't find
much natural `crossover' between these tasks.

What am I missing?

Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
>
> I would have to agree with Stefan on this. Two thumbs up for
> WWW/LX Plus and SC.
>
> I was a strictly a DOSSHELL user up until about (3) weeks age. I had
> battled with SC for also 3yrs. lock-ups, crashes ETC. This would go on for
> weeks then I'd delete it and go back to using DOSSHELL.
>
> But boredom would set in once again, then I'd give it yet another round.
> This time I used Tremm and "no" on disk for storage, removed Maxdos from my
> autoexec.bat and SC has been running fine for the past (3) weeks
> (knock on wood). (:-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:28:26 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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> "SC is the most important piece of software running on my LX!"
>
> I would never give it away for any reason and never had any
> problems using it, and I think I am a power user. It is like
> having 5 palmtops in front of you, each doing a different task.
> But instead of 5 palmtops it's all in one with hotkeys to
> switch to the different sessions.

I was going to stay out of this as these discussions tend to just go
round and round but when someone as reputable as Stefan
wades in then I have to say something :-)

 I had the misfortune to be one of the first users of S/C. When
Sunshine Software first released the software for the palmtop I and a
few other Compuservers were the first customers. The product was less
than reliable but after some unofficial `beta testing' (we had paid
for the product) it became much more stable. Since that time I have
had little or no trouble with the program provided that I do not try
to squeeze the memory resources too much. I currently run five
sessions on my 32MB D/S 200LX and switch frequently between them.
Closing and opening applications in a serial fashion without S/C is
not an option.

I beta test for D&A and two of my sessions are devoted to their
products. Being able to use S/C to close down one of those sessions
(Andreas occassionally makes coding mistakes<G>) while maintaining the
others has been most useful.

Once every few months I will close down S/C and check my disk for lost
clusters/files etc but this is usually a pointless exercise. S/C is the
single application that most permits me to continue using the palmtop
on a daily basis.

Oh and I think I am a power user too!

GaryS

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:28:38 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 09:30 AM 21/02/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Peter W <peterw@CLARK.NET> wrote:
>
>> Today I got a catalog from a company called "1-800-batteries" that sells
all kinds
>> of mobile computing gadgets. I've never dealt with them, and prices seem
kinda
>> high, but what caught my eye was a $129 USD 56k (k56flex/v.90) pocket modem


Hi Peter & List

*Commercial*
I expect to have a 56K Pocket Modem Available for a Retail of Approx US$80
Delivered anywhere in the world very shortly.  I was holding off announcing
it because I am waiting on samples to assure myself it will work with the LX.

Details I have now.
4.25"x2.75"x1"  ASVD/DSVD.

Power Source..Unknown
V90/Flex?  Unknown.

There is also a combo card that I am trying to get power details on.
Modem/Ethernet.

If all works well it should be available within 30 Days

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:48:17 +10
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Casio QV 300 Digital camera info
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de
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hi Stefan, hi all
few days ago you ask for a Casio QV100 or 300 pic.
I bought this week-end a QV300 for AU$375 (US$240).
So if you still need a 640x480 pic for testing, I can send one to you.

I just test cam2jpg, and it work fine.
qvcom and qvremote work too.
:))
regards
Alain

Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:55:47 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              99 06:32:23 pm
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>  > That's great!  I was using your FTP today, and missed several
>  > other common FTP commands - OPEN, USER, and some way to enable
>  > the MORE filter.  One some ftp clients I use, you can toggle
>  > more filter operation on/off with the command MORE.
>
> Probably only the MGET and MPUT, nothing else... Some of
> these ftp clients will not run on the palmtop, let's get
> real... :)

Avi:

I respect your right to add/remove whatever features you want
from your products.  But you seem to imply that the added
commands I listed are somehow beyond the capabilities of the
200LX, a point I think many of use would disagree with - I
certainly do!  The OPEN and USER commands are simply allowing
manual access to functions that already exist, and I can't
image that adding a simple MORE capability would tax the
palmtop too greatly.

I guess I'm saying that I accept without reservation your
conclusion (no new commands), but reject your reasoning.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:02:05 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Has anyone used NCSA Telnet on their palmtops?  I tried recently on
a business trip, and had it lock up my computer every time.  I had
the settings correct, as best I can tell, in the CONFIG.TEL file.
Are there any settings that are critical for use w/HP200?  I'm using
the Acton ethernet card, and had the config file set to use the
packet drivers.

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:35:25 -0500
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Some folks were talking about a fast, small DBF viewer the other day and I ran
upon one just now. The web page states:

"DoDBF, the fastest DBASE file viewer. This small DOS program beats
every other DBASE viewer in speed and find anything anywhere. Database
of 20 30 Mbytes are searched in seconds."

Here's the link:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/han_kleijn/dodbf102.zip

If it's any good, let me know and I'll get it on SUPER. BTW, I have an update
coming, but have been away on vacation. Just now catching up...
--
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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:22:21 +1100
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14h57m59s ago ...
On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:27:47 -0800 (PST), David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> =
wrote:

> Me, three. I bought SC donkey's years ago and it crashed (probably,
> I suppose, due to some stupidity of mine like changing something in
> one session when I forgot I had it open in another) and I realized that
>    (1) It encouraged me to use it in some way that ended up being
>        punished for;
>    (2) I couldn't quite figure out what I would end up by being able
>        to do, that I couldn't do otherwise and that I really needed to
>        do; and
>    (3) While it might add a tiny + by working perfectly, it had already
>        added a huge - by screwing up, and I figured this would probably
>        continue, for me at least.
>

For what its worth, I have a working copy of SC (not super), and have
had anly very minor problems with it, mainly user error.

I could not imagine using my palmtop without it.

I have 200 running in one session, allowing access to appointment book,
phone book, and Lotus 123, all of which I need at the drop of a hat.
In another session, I have WWW/LX running. This allows me to switch
between reading/writing mail, and organisation tasks at two keystrokes,
and more importantly, I do not loose my current task in either session.

I then have other less important stuff running in other sessions, like
geo clock which shows a map of the world, with the daylight and night
areas.  Also a local map in another session....

I think the most important thing is having the memory to run SC
effectively, I have 32mb, and 2x speed upgrade.

Anyway, for some it works, and others it doesn't.

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>
> If I had any problems concerning SC in conjunction with other
> software, I would tend to replace this other software, but not
> SC.
>

Well, sometimes it's just not possible. In my field, there is very
little DOS software left, (everyone uses you know what...). And paying
agencies keep changing their data submission requirements, so you
can't just stay with an old package. The heavy accounting/billing
package I use wants 75 files in config.sys, I'm sure this is the one
that strains palmtop resources. It runs OK on 200LX, but add the
additional overhead of SC and, after a while, there's trouble, always
with other applications, when they attempt a new task. In this
context, the added convenience of SC is an illusion, much like the
famous "ergonomic graphic interface".

I am not a power user - I don't even want to be one. I do something
else for a living. All I want is to run the software, get my results,
and go home.

Mikhail

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:11:13 -0800
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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In-Reply-To:  David Ness's message of Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:08:12 -0500

David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> wrote:
> Your note (and Stefan's as well) perhaps puts me on the track of
> understanding why I can't figure out any use for SC while others
> can't live life without it. This is something I'd like to understand
> because I would hate to be passing up opportunities to do somthing
> that would be useful, just because I am ignorant of the possibilities.

I have an inventory database on the palmtop.  Well, that's sort of
true, except for the fact that it lives in a couple of 1-2-3
spreadsheets (one of which dates from my days as a 95LX user), a
couple of GDB databases, and a dBase-format database that is where new
entries go (and where the other stuff will go someday, converting the
data would be some work and some of the stuff needs re-inventorying
besides); that latter database is maintained with Alpha Four and FoxPro
(eventually just FoxPro).

Sometimes, while I'm entering inventory records, I want to look at the
information in the older databases, or I want to look up something in
my phone book or appointment calendar, because it helps me remember
when I got the thing I'm inventorying or where or who I got it from.

Without SC, I'd have to save and quit the MS-DOS database application,
exit MS-DOS or restart SysMgr, look up the information I want in the
SysMgr database(s), then close SysMgr apps and get back to MS-DOS,
restart the database application, get back to the record I was working
on, and resume working.

I tried this for a while, with MaxDOS.  It worked, but it was a pain
to go through all that, and it provided plenty of room for error.  SC
lets me accomplish the same end but faster, plus saves me having to go
through the extra steps to switch applications and remember where I
was and have to get back there.

Seems trivial, doesn't it?  But this is the one big time-and-sanity
saver that makes SC worthwhile to me.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:53:04 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Word Processing

I'm curious as to what the most popular/most used word processing software
is for use on the LX? I love PE and it is my favorite editor, but I am
currently involved in writing an article to appear in a technical
publication and am open for suggestions for word processing software.

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:01:08 -0800
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              Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluffy Ann: Palmtop games site!
Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Incidentally, I hope the maintainers of the sites that I've
> linked to don't mind - if you do, just let me know! All
> comments, questions, etc are welcome! I hope you like the
> site!
>
>  -Mike

I have a suggestion.. wanna have games.hplx.net redirect to your page?  I
can arrange that in about two seconds flat.

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I'm curious as to what the most popular/most used word processing software
> is for use on the LX? I love PE and it is my favorite editor, but I am
> currently involved in writing an article to appear in a technical
> publication and am open for suggestions for word processing software.
>
> 73 Jeff W4JEF

I have vague recollection of running the Envision Publisher on my palmtop.
It was a long time ago, but I think it worked fine.  A nice-looking program,
and a pretty good desktop publisher besides.

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:06:15 -0800
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On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I'm curious as to what the most popular/most used word processing
> software is for use on the LX? I love PE and it is my favorite editor,
> but I am currently involved in writing an article to appear in a
> technical publication and am open for suggestions for word processing
> software.

I've used a few.  Microsoft Word 5.0, Microsoft Word 5.5, Microsoft Word
1.1 for Windows, Microsoft Works 2.0, Microsoft Works 3.0, and WordPerfect
5.1.  Currently I use WordPerfect 5.1, as it seems to be the most powerful
so far.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:22:42 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 08:06 PM 21/02/99 -0800, you wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
>> I'm curious as to what the most popular/most used word processing
I use Enable..Its a suite with windows type interaction..transfer data
between DB/graphics/spreadsheet/WP/spell check/mail merge/telecoms..Macro
capable and more.

It is compatible with a number of different formats from that time. ie
Lotus/db3/Wordstar etc.

Open Access was similar if you recall it.

I have used enable with a DB of 70,000 records on my LX. Sort then mail
merge for form letter.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:24:32 +0800
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>Me, three. I bought SC donkey's years ago and it crashed (probably,
>I suppose, due to some stupidity of mine like changing something in

I quite understand the "periods" business. But in my case, it more like
 discovered HP100LX
  upgrade to HP200LX
 try out HP Omnigo 100LX -- AARGH!
  returned to HP200LX
 try out PalmPilot -- not quite it
  returned to HP200LX
 try out HP HPC 620LX  -- AAAAAAAARGH!
  returned to HP200LX
 recently got a 32MB DS 200LX from Thaddeus, works great!

About the SC issue, i use it and do find the same problems mentioned when I try
to be too ambitious. Now my work areas are just
1. System Applications (ie the HP200LX built in PIM)
2. DOS Applications (launching off HDM)
3. Vertical Reader (accesses only VR and my "reading" directory)
Keeps it simple, hardly any chance of conflicts, runs only one DOS session at a
time, it's ok. Perhaps what i am saying here is that while it's perfectly true
that different folks have different folks, sometimes one can have one's cake
and nibble at it. <grin>

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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:00:18 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I am not an expert but have used diet a bit. It can used to temporarily
extract compressed files used by another program. Example:
1. Compress data file

  diet -d filename (i.e., text)

2. Put this in a batch file

  diet -z > nul  (this loads TSR)
  run program that uses data file (i.e., text editor)
  diet -zr > nul  (removes TSR)

Diet temporarily decompresses the file and allows the text editor to
read file as normal. The temporary file is removed after completion of
the above batch file.

Steve D. wrote:

> I just downloaded 'Diet' from the SUPER site. The
> instructions for it's use appear to be in something
> other than English. Could someone give a brief
> explanation on how to use it, or possibly direct me
> to a site that has the instructions.
>
> TIA,
> Steve
>
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Date:         Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:12:39 -0700
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I deal with a computer parts/software wholesale distributer who has a few US Robotics
Worldport 9600 modes that run off a 9V battery and includes an AC adaptor. His is George
McCourt at 800-705-8100

Victor Roberts wrote:

> Peter W <peterw@CLARK.NET> wrote:
>
> > Today I got a catalog from a company called "1-800-batteries" that sells all kinds
> > of mobile computing gadgets. I've never dealt with them, and prices seem kinda
> > high, but what caught my eye was a $129 USD 56k (k56flex/v.90) pocket modem
>
> This is not really a pocket modem as many of us would define
> one. It does not operate on internal batteries, but from an
> external AC adapter. The manufacturer does have an external
> battery pack with NiCad battery for about $50. They also said
> they would have a version of the modem that operates from
> internal AA cells in about 6 months.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
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I recently got a multi-port serial card for my desktop PC and noticed problems with my
LXFileman front end for LXTOOLS. While fixing those I decided to make it more
Linux-friendly, too. That is, to connect at speeds above 38400 in Linux you have to do some
trickery with "setserial". As of version 0.96, LXFileman handles that stuff for you.

http://www.clark.net/~peterw/LXFileman/info.htm

-Peter

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:50:06 GMT
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David Ness wrote:

>As time passes I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable with Outlook.
>I have no idea of how it organizes information, but at the moment I
>have about 380k in current and historical .ADBs and a 90K name and
>address file. I keep my past calendars in appropriately named
>subfolders in Outlook (`1995', `1996', ...) Somehow this appears to
>translate into an 18mb (yes, 18 megabyte!) .PST file. I have no idea
>what causes this apparent inflation from less than 0.5meg of raw data,
>but it troubles me, and makes me realize that in the long run I don't
>like to count on things that behave in ways that surprise me.

Several people around me use Outlook, and I have successfully used
Perl to move Outlook-exported contact lists into the 200LX. I agree
with your ideas about how to go about it. I have not attempted to go
the other direction, but it should be even easier since there are many
fewer fields to hassle with. And I haven't had the need to do it with
the calendar. But if anyone wants my Perl code, let me know.

I doubly agree with your uneasiness regarding Outlook. I installed
Outlook 98 on my notebook last month, and it took me about two weeks
to finally get frustrated enough to dump it. It was slower than I
could believe software could be (I hear Outlook 98 is much much slower
than the previous Outlook). When you reply to messages and choose the
"> " style of quoting, it breaks each line into two unequal-length
quoted lines. While it was downloading messages (at least on our
company's OpenMail), I could not use Outlook at all (like to
read/compose). The address book is slow and cumbersome. The "rules" to
sort incoming mail into folders didn't work as it seemed obvious they
should. And on and on...

Having a program which integrates e-mail, a calendar, and contacts
would be nice, but Outlook 98 seems to try to do too much.

Boy, wouldn't it be nice to have software that's as intelligently
designed as the 200LX built-in apps, in a Windows environment, with
connectivity? Somebody could make a fortune.

-Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:20:47 -0500
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Thanks for your remarks. There is some consolation in knowing that
it is not simple ineptitude or bad luck which has caused me to have
the problems the we have both encountered.

While I am by no means a MicroSoft `basher', I have come to believe that
they generally build software that superficially looks wonderful
but that often is conceptually *very* poorly thought out and quite
likely to collapse under pressure. Outlook certainly looks wonderful
in the 10 minute demo. But under the pressure of scale, and as I try
to do more, I find more and more poor behavior and barriers to progress.

As time passes I am ever astonished to find that as people run into
the awful behavior of some of these MicroSoft programs, their attitude
seems to be `guess I'd better get the latest version' rather than the
`I think I'll dump this crap' that the software so richly diserves.

Well, I guess there are a lot of people who never end up pressing any
of the boundaries of these programs. That must be it. I suppose that
also explains the phenomenal success of the Palms---which I find
almost equally mysterious.

Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> Several people around me use Outlook, and I have successfully used
> Perl to move Outlook-exported contact lists into the 200LX. I agree
> with your ideas about how to go about it. I have not attempted to go
> the other direction, but it should be even easier since there are many
> fewer fields to hassle with. And I haven't had the need to do it with
> the calendar. But if anyone wants my Perl code, let me know.
>
> I doubly agree with your uneasiness regarding Outlook. I installed
> Outlook 98 on my notebook last month, and it took me about two weeks
> to finally get frustrated enough to dump it. It was slower than I
> could believe software could be (I hear Outlook 98 is much much slower
> than the previous Outlook). When you reply to messages and choose the
> "> " style of quoting, it breaks each line into two unequal-length
> quoted lines. While it was downloading messages (at least on our
> company's OpenMail), I could not use Outlook at all (like to
> read/compose). The address book is slow and cumbersome. The "rules" to
> sort incoming mail into folders didn't work as it seemed obvious they
> should. And on and on...
>
> Having a program which integrates e-mail, a calendar, and contacts
> would be nice, but Outlook 98 seems to try to do too much.
>
> Boy, wouldn't it be nice to have software that's as intelligently
> designed as the 200LX built-in apps, in a Windows environment, with
> connectivity? Somebody could make a fortune.
>
> -Curtis Cameron
> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:44:29 -0500
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              Aaron Billin <abillin@POL.NET>
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I've been a failthful 200LX user for years.  When my latch lost it's
"spring", I employed the "rubber band solution" for several months
without difficulty.  Now my latch has come off completely.  Is any one
aware of any way in which this can be repaired?  Hal, how about
Thaddeus?

Aaron

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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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> Hi all,
>
> Anybody run a genealogy program on the 200LX? Something that runs nicely,
> interfaces in a standard way with other programs, possibility of viewing
> (using lxpic)? Just so that I don't have to dl everything from Simtel... :-)
>
> br
>

Brothers Keeper DOS version runs nicely on the Palmtop with
MaxDos. Search the web for it as I don't have the URL handy.

Regards

Antonio



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Porto - Portugal
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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:43:08 +0100
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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I got my file from the Yellow Computing CD-ROM (cost about $40, full of
shareware, TransFile200, ...)
best regds
jez

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:09:57 +0100
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              Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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> Just wanted to share...
>
> Just tested my new 336E EXP ThinFax against my old Megahertz 14.4 kbps
> modem for downloading messages from the list.  I used wwww.log in WWW/LX
> to record elapsed time from Online (F5) thru Exit (Menu, Q) on my
> HP200LX T2 32Meg by Thaddeus.
> - Same modem setup commands for both. Max speed (38400) used (setup.exe).
> - HP200LX on ac power supply for both tests.
>
> EXP 336E PCMCIA:  Nominal  33.6 kbps
>         48 msgs took 148 seconds  => 3.08 sec/msg avg.
>
> Megahertz CC4144 PCMCIA:  Nominal 14.4 kbps
>         68 msgs took 243 seconds  => 3.57 sec/msg avg.
>
> The 33.6 kbps was only 16% faster than the 14.4 kbps.  Not sure the $$
> for the 33.6 was worth it.  I hope 33.6 is significantly faster with
> file transfers.
>
>         Bob Pigford


It would be good if you repeated the test using some other
programmes, such as NETTAMER or COMMO. All the other
programmes (POST/LX, GOIN' POSTAL, LXTCP) slow down the
communication. I don't know the reason, but I've noticed
that all of them are modular ones (have more than one
component).

A few months ago I've performed a test on the TXT file
of 100,000 bytes, using a 14400 modem. Here it is:



          program  min:sec         modem     computer
          name                     to modem  to modem
                                   speed     speed
------------------------------------------------------
  upload  POST/LX   1:23  1207cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:19   505cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:20   503cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:28   484cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:19   505cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:41  2454cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:31   476cps  14400bps   19200bps
download  POST/LX   3:54   430cps   9600bps    9600bps
  upload  POST/LX   1:27  1152cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:17   510cps  14400bps  115200bps
  upload  POST/LX   1:26  1165cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:16   513cps  14400bps  115200bps
  upload  POST/LX   1:21  1237cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:39  2580cps  14400bps  115200bps
  upload  NEWS/LX   1:03  1587cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NEWS/LX   0:47  2128cps  14400bps  115200bps
------------------------------------------------------

I have a registered version of WWW/LX, but I'm aware it's
not perfect. It's not my intention, of course, to harm the
distribution of this programme, but if there are no
suggestions, there will be no improvements, too.

At this moment I'm using NETTAMER to download my mail, and
POST/LX to read it and send it. To do that I use a small
convertor of 11kb, that changes the header of the message
so it can be compatible with the POST/LX. And here I am,
caught in the middle,between the speed (offered by
NETTAMER) and functionality (offered by POST/LX).

So the question is not whether we need a faster modem,
which would give us 16%, but whether we need a faster mail
programme, which would give us 500%.

Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:13:35 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Anyone tried this or heard of it?

 The "QNX Demo Disk" enables you to surf the web from a
       floppy disk - without a browser, an application or even an
       operating system installed on the PC. The purpose of the demo
       is to promote the QNX "realtime" operating system, developed
       by Gordon Bell and Dan Dodge. The demo is useful if you're
       in the middle of an OS installation and need a driver from the
       web, if you want to make use of an old PC that won't run
       Win9x, or if you want to use someone else's computer
       without actually using their software. To make your own demo
       disk, click on the link below and follow the online instructions:

http://www.qnx.com/iat/index.html

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One more...

I use PKLITE to compress executables.

Steve D. wrote:

> I just downloaded 'Diet' from the SUPER site. The
> instructions for it's use appear to be in something
> other than English. Could someone give a brief
> explanation on how to use it, or possibly direct me
> to a site that has the instructions.
>
> TIA,
> Steve
>
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I still prefer to use Word Star 4.0, I have later versions but size wise it
seems the best. For just text editing I use QEdit (Semware Editor) for
creating quick notes and batch files. I tried Word Perfect for DOS but never
could get good with it.

Stephen Souza
Network Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant İSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 23:06
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Word Processing
>
> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> > I'm curious as to what the most popular/most used word processing
> > software is for use on the LX? I love PE and it is my favorite editor,
> > but I am currently involved in writing an article to appear in a
> > technical publication and am open for suggestions for word processing
> > software.
>
>

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Hi all,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Brooks İmailto:ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU¨
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 1999 10:39 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: OutLook beta testing
>
>
> I just joined this list a couple of days ago after doing a
> search on HP200
> and Outlook and have finished searching your archives on the topic.
>
> Please count me in to support beta testing a 200 <--> Outlook program.
>

Count me in too.


BTW: Has anybody had sucess with PumaTech's Intellisync and Outlook 98 ?


TIA,
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> I have a suggestion.. wanna have games.hplx.net redirect to your page? =
 I
> can arrange that in about two seconds flat.

That would be fantastic! Yes please, and thank you very, very
much!

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:40:35 -0800
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>Of course, there are myriad other possibilities. AWK would work.
>SED would probably be ok. EMacs could certainly do the job. Most BASICs
>would not have a very hard time with it. APL, J and K could actually do
>the restructuring as well, although it would be a bit more obscure.
>
>In any event, I use PERL for this particular step.


David,

I am very interested getting a copy of any PERL scripts you may have written
for 200LX to Outlook conversion.  I used to program quite a bit of PERL a
few years back, and I am converting my "base set" of appointments to
Outlook, but still use the 200LX.  Any enhancements or changes I would make
to your scripts I would post back to this group.

...and another idea to bounce off the group...

I am also starting a project to get my 200LX to interact with my Nokia 6160
cell phone.  I hate to admit it, but I sometimes (frequently) do business in
my car, and I am constantly having to look up phone numbers (more than the
199 that can fit inside the phone).  I realize the danger in doing this, so
I am investigating a way to allow the 200LX to control the Nokia for
dialing, and to allow me to choose numbers without taking my eyes off the
road.

I am thinking about putting together a program which talks to me (similar to
an IVR) using a program I found on the supersite, which would link to my
contact database, and then send commands to the Nokia for dialing (I may
need to add an external speaker to do this).  I want the "send" interface to
allow me to use a single keypress (i.e. spacebar) to cycle through the
options, so I can feel for the key without taking my eyes off the road.  I
know Microsoft is working on a version of Win CE for cars to do stuff like
this, and although I am quite familiar with VB, I think CE is a P.O.S. and
am not much impressed with any of the CE handheld devices.  I think most of
the pieces to do this already exist and run fine in the DOS world, and can
be cobbled together for a proof of concept.

I recently bought some software and a serial data cable ($59) from Paragon
Software (www.paragonsoftware.com) which allows the Nokia to connect to a
desktop PC over a serial cable and synchronize its contact database with
Outlook.  the cable should work with the 200LX serial cable with a
null-modem adaptor inserted.  I plan on decoding the protocol with a serial
protocol analyzer and use it with the 200LX to manipulate the phone
(apparently Nokia is very tight-lipped about documenting the protocol
without paying $$$ for the documentation).

Any comments are appreciated!  Am I foolhardy to try this!  I may prototype
this first in Perl (or Clipper), then convert to a compiled executable.  My
goal is to get it working on a 2MB 200LX with a flashcard to hold the phone
database (not necessarily the built-in phone database, but possibly a dbf
file), but I am not averse to upgrading the memory if I need to.

Regards,

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Curtis,

I suspect you may work for the same two letter company I work for, and I
have also had some frustration with making Outlook work right.  I mostly
work remotely over a modem, and although I felt CC-Mail had its limitations,
it still worked better in a client-server mode than outlook does over a slow
phone line.  I found a couple of switches in Outlook helped its performance:

I turned off the automatic view pane where every time you highlight a new
message header it automatically pulls the message up in the view pane.

I set the autosave feature for open items to 0 (ie off) since every three
minutes Outlook would go to sleep while I was trying to write a message.

Hope this helps,

Paul Fig
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From: Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: OutLook beta testing


David Ness wrote:

>As time passes I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable with Outlook.
>I have no idea of how it organizes information, but at the moment I
>have about 380k in current and historical .ADBs and a 90K name and
>address file. I keep my past calendars in appropriately named
>subfolders in Outlook (`1995', `1996', ...) Somehow this appears to
>translate into an 18mb (yes, 18 megabyte!) .PST file. I have no idea
>what causes this apparent inflation from less than 0.5meg of raw data,
>but it troubles me, and makes me realize that in the long run I don't
>like to count on things that behave in ways that surprise me.

Several people around me use Outlook, and I have successfully used
Perl to move Outlook-exported contact lists into the 200LX. I agree
with your ideas about how to go about it. I have not attempted to go
the other direction, but it should be even easier since there are many
fewer fields to hassle with. And I haven't had the need to do it with
the calendar. But if anyone wants my Perl code, let me know.

I doubly agree with your uneasiness regarding Outlook. I installed
Outlook 98 on my notebook last month, and it took me about two weeks
to finally get frustrated enough to dump it. It was slower than I
could believe software could be (I hear Outlook 98 is much much slower
than the previous Outlook). When you reply to messages and choose the
"> " style of quoting, it breaks each line into two unequal-length
quoted lines. While it was downloading messages (at least on our
company's OpenMail), I could not use Outlook at all (like to
read/compose). The address book is slow and cumbersome. The "rules" to
sort incoming mail into folders didn't work as it seemed obvious they
should. And on and on...

Having a program which integrates e-mail, a calendar, and contacts
would be nice, but Outlook 98 seems to try to do too much.

Boy, wouldn't it be nice to have software that's as intelligently
designed as the 200LX built-in apps, in a Windows environment, with
connectivity? Somebody could make a fortune.

-Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:34:28 -0800
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I've got a palmtop with Mack's 32M+speed upgrade.  Everything used to work fine, but for the last month or so there has been an *intermittent* screen flicker & power-on delay.  It happens randomly and only when turning it on.  It lasts for a few seconds and then everything is back to normal.  Anyone else had this happen?  All the batteries have been replaced and it doesn't seem to help.  I'm afraid that one of these days it will refuse to power-on at all.

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Anybody have some web addresses for the comparison shoppings sites?

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Fred,

I like, and use, http://www.pricescan.com

F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> Anybody have some web addresses for the comparison shoppings sites?
>
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>Anybody have some web addresses for the comparison shoppings sites?

I use www.computeresp.com

Cheers,
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I feel it would be a mistake to be encouraging about the prospects
for a 616x/200Lx interface.

First, FoneSync is about 1mb + about 2mb of .DLLs. While this is no
direct indication of the `scale' of the problem, one can infer that
there is some reasonably complex stuff going on.

Second, the goal is pretty obscure anyway. Managing a 616x with the
200 can only be *harder* than doing it with something like a Libretto,
and that would be tough enough. And a Libretto doesn't cost all that
much more than the phone these days, and often costs less than a
souped up 200.

Third, the `dialogue' between the serial port and the 616x is pretty
obscure, at least in the attempts that I made a while back to
investigate this. My best guess is that figuring this out will be
difficult, and that it will only be the first of many steps needed to
establish useful communication.

Finally, reading the 200 screen in a car is harder, for me at least,
than reading my 6162 screen. I can read my 6162 in a dark car and I
can find numbers on it without much difficulty with a couple of
button presses. It would be much harder, IMO, to do *anything* with
a 200.

A better approach, it seems to me, if you don't want to dial directly
on the 616x is to see if you can sign up for one of the services that
will allow you to `dial' by voice commands. I understand they are
becoming more widely available---although since I have no interest
in this I haven't researched availability at all.

If you succeed, of course, I'd be very happy. However, having read
all of the Cellular/Nokia newsgroups for some time now, the number of
discovered `secrets' for the 616x series is pitifully small, so I
won't be holding my breath expecting success.

figliozi wrote:
>
> ...and another idea to bounce off the group...
>
> I am also starting a project to get my 200LX to interact with my Nokia
> 6160 cell phone.  I hate to admit it, but I sometimes (frequently) do
> business in my car, and I am constantly having to look up phone
> numbers (more than the 199 that can fit inside the phone).  I realize
> the danger in doing this, so I am investigating a way to allow the
> 200LX to control the Nokia for dialing, and to allow me to choose
> numbers without taking my eyes off > the road.
>
> I am thinking about putting together a program which talks to me
> (similar to an IVR) using a program I found on the supersite, which
> would link to my contact database, and then send commands to the Nokia
> for dialing (I may need to add an external speaker to do this).  I
> want the "send" interface to allow me to use a single keypress (i.e.
> spacebar) to cycle through the options, so I can feel for the key
> without taking my eyes off the road.  I know Microsoft is working on a
> version of Win CE for cars to do stuff lke this, and although I am
> quite familiar with VB, I think CE is a P.O.S. and am not much
> impressed with any of the CE handheld devices.  I think most of
> the pieces to do this already exist and run fine in the DOS world, and
> can be cobbled together for a proof of concept.
>
> I recently bought some software and a serial data cable ($59) from
> Paragon Software (www.paragonsoftware.com) which allows the Nokia to
> connect to a desktop PC over a serial cable and synchronize its
> contact database with Outlook.  the cable should work with the 200LX
> serial cable with a null-modem adaptor inserted.  I plan on decoding
> the protocol with a serial protocol analyzer and use it with the 200LX
> to manipulate the phone (apparently Nokia is very tight-lipped about
> documenting the protocol without paying $$$ for the documentation).
>
> Any comments are appreciated!  Am I foolhardy to try this!  I may
> prototype this first in Perl (or Clipper), then convert to a compiled
> executable.  My goal is to get it working on a 2MB 200LX with a
> flashcard to hold the phone database (not necessarily the built-in
> phone database, but possibly a dbf file), but I am not averse to
> upgrading the memory if I need to.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Figliozzi

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:58:01 PST
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>From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>Subject:      Price comparison sites for flash cards?
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>Anybody have some web addresses for the comparison shoppings sites?


You could try the following link..

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/1873/cfprices.htm


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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> >Anybody have some web addresses for the comparison shoppings sites?
> I use www.computeresp.com

Which is also known as www.shopper.com.  All part of C|net's network.  You
will be assimilated.  <g>

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Accton connection problems - LX to Win95

> I am trying to connect my 200LX DS 32MB to my Win95b Desktop through
> an Accton en2216 ethernet card.
>
> Typing "net start" returns:
> Microsoft Netbind version 2.1
> Microsoft NetBEUI version 2.2
> Type your user name, or press ENTER if it is Shaun
> Type your password:*****
> The command completed successfully.
>
> Typing "net" returns:
> the dialog box with no current connections active.
>
> I am connected directly to the desktop with a cross over cable.
>
> Can someone please point me in the direction I need to go to find
> where the connection is failing.
>
> Shaun Gilbert
>

If all you did was the above you don't have any connections. Have you
tried a net use to connect to something? Do net view and it should
list any other machines in the same workgroup. Then you can do net
view \\machine to see what is shared from the machine name "machine".
Then do net use G: \\machine\sharename to connect to a shared drive.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Help - Double Slot Use

> Chris, if you bought the doubleslot recently, you should not need the patch
> for doublespeed. I bought my Dslot almost a year ago and don't need the
> patch, or it makes no difference if I use it.
>
> My late reply probably means you've already tried your iuntended setup. I'd
> be interested to know how it went. I had troubles with wwwlx 2.0 using flash
> as the storage space with a modem in the double slot - seems like something
> to do with timing of the PCMCIA read/writes. No combo of CIC drivers or that
> DS patch helped - though I think I remember nettamer working ok. I hold out
> hope that the latest version of WWWLX might fix the prob.
>
> All in all I am pleased with the doubleslot. Makes a nice place to dock the
> lx. Something I'll mention but not recommend is that the lx and doubleslot,
> while powered only by the lx on the ac adaptor will actually spin up and run
> my pcmcia hard drive for 5 min before screen fade! (for emergencies)
>
> Good luck,
> Darren.
>

I had alot of trouble with the double slot I had trying to find a
combination of modem and flash card that worked. I had 4 different
modems and 3 different flash cards and no combination would work. I
even returned mine and they replaced it but still no luck. I think it
is rather picky about what combination you use, some work great and
others don't work at all. I finally sold mine since I couldn't use it
as I had wanted to.

Pete



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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:06:12 +0100
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

could someone explain me please the differences between DOSSHELL ans SC?

Thanks,
daniel

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              Hermann Michael Blum <blums@MAGIX.COM.SG>
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The HP 700LX / Nokia 2110 combo is doing what you plan to implement. The
keystroke is F8 (dial) within the phone-application, which initialyses the
handphone and sends the data to it. The datafiles of the 200 and the 700
are fully compatible - I just switch the memory-card (200 for home-office,
700 when on the road).

Kind regards

Hermann Michael Blum

> I am also starting a project to get my 200LX to interact with my Nokia
6160
> cell phone.  I hate to admit it, but I sometimes (frequently) do business
in
> my car, and I am constantly having to look up phone numbers (more than
the
> 199 that can fit inside the phone).  I realize the danger in doing this,
so
> I am investigating a way to allow the 200LX to control the Nokia for
> dialing, and to allow me to choose numbers without taking my eyes off the
> road.
>
> I am thinking about putting together a program which talks to me (similar
to
> an IVR) using a program I found on the supersite, which would link to my
> contact database, and then send commands to the Nokia for dialing (I may
> need to add an external speaker to do this).  I want the "send" interface
to
> allow me to use a single keypress (i.e. spacebar) to cycle through the
> options, so I can feel for the key without taking my eyes off the road.
I
> know Microsoft is working on a version of Win CE for cars to do stuff
like
> this, and although I am quite familiar with VB, I think CE is a P.O.S.
and
> am not much impressed with any of the CE handheld devices.  I think most
of
> the pieces to do this already exist and run fine in the DOS world, and
can
> be cobbled together for a proof of concept.
>
> I recently bought some software and a serial data cable ($59) from
Paragon
> Software (www.paragonsoftware.com) which allows the Nokia to connect to a
> desktop PC over a serial cable and synchronize its contact database with
> Outlook.  the cable should work with the 200LX serial cable with a
> null-modem adaptor inserted.  I plan on decoding the protocol with a
serial
> protocol analyzer and use it with the 200LX to manipulate the phone
> (apparently Nokia is very tight-lipped about documenting the protocol
> without paying $$$ for the documentation).
>
> Any comments are appreciated!  Am I foolhardy to try this!  I may
prototype
> this first in Perl (or Clipper), then convert to a compiled executable.
My
> goal is to get it working on a 2MB 200LX with a flashcard to hold the
phone
> database (not necessarily the built-in phone database, but possibly a dbf
> file), but I am not averse to upgrading the memory if I need to.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:31:30 EST
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In a message dated 2/22/1999 1:45:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, abillin@POL.NET
writes:

> I've been a failthful 200LX user for years.  When my latch lost it's
>  "spring", I employed the "rubber band solution" for several months
>  without difficulty.  Now my latch has come off completely.  Is any one
>  aware of any way in which this can be repaired?  Hal, how about
>  Thaddeus?
>
>  Aaron
>
What you need is clear "Contact" brand shelf paper.  Put your rubber band
piece in place, put the latch piece on top of it.  (The rubber band piece
should be large enough to hold the latch up to a flat position, but soft
enough to unlatch.  I had to cut some "teeth" out of mine to accomplish this.)
Now use the Contact paper as Scotch Tape across the entire side of the LX.

The Contact paper is resilient enough to allow the latch to work, sticky
enough to last (if you trim the edges neatly, so that it doesn't get pried up)
and durable enough to last for many months or years.  I know from experience.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:27:14 -0800
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Can someone refer me to some more information regarding the connectivity pack?
Does this allow one to access and modify the palmtop's various appt book and phone data files on a PC running DOS or windows?

I'm interested only in the data access/mgmt side of things, not at all in the data xfer side.

Where can such software be purchased?

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:01:39 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Thanks to all for help in getting QTEXT working on my HP100LX.

For Avi's info, QTEXT for Windows has a keyboard template that matches the
DOS version pretty well. There are a couple of differences because the HP's
keyboard does not duplicate a normal full size one. Also the Windows
software has a list of keyboard commands, at least some of which are the
same as the DOS program.  (You can get this from the trial version
available on the Web.  If you cannot find it, let me know and I will try to
extract the info and send it along. I'll be gone for a few days so it
wouldn't be till the weekend.)

One further question:

I know that QTEXT for DOS can show either latin or Hebrew letters.

Is there a way to set up the program so that the various commands, help
files, etc are shown in English?

My Hebrew knowledge is very limited, so I wasn't hoping to use the program
for actual Hebrew word processing, but for copying some Hebrew text into
the HP for inclusion into other documents.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:11:54 -0500
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Subject:      NJStar Chinese Word Processor

     Hi everybody,

     Has anyone out there managed to get NJStar Chinese Word Processor
     running on the 200LX? I have NJCGA 2.1 which I downloaded some time
     ago, though I can't remember where I got it from. Anyway I only
     discovered recently that the zipped file package was incomplete
     whereby a font file was missing. It seems to work beautifully with the
     200LX, but pity it's rather useless without the missing files.


     Regards.

     Jimmy Tan T.H.

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you will need to download the japanese version and pull out the font
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Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>
> Can someone refer me to some more information regarding the
> connectivity pack?
> Does this allow one to access and modify the palmtop's various appt
> book and phone data files on a PC running DOS or windows?
>

Yes, I keep my Appointment Book and Phone Book on a PCMCIA card and
it can be accessed directly by CPACK's Appointment Book and Phone
Book Applications. CPACK presents a screen which looks `just like' the
main control screen on the 200, with the exception that CPACK does
not (I guess for liscensing reasons) support the `Lotus 1-2-3'
application. I often manipulate my address book/phone book on my PC
because, nice as the 200 is, I prefer the keyboard on my PC when it
is available.

>
> I'm interested only in the data access/mgmt side of things, not at all
> in the data xfer side.
>

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, so I can't comment.

>
> Where can such software be purchased?
>

I would think most HP dealers would have it. You might try
http://www.thaddeus.com or http://www.shier.com
I'm not sure if either carry it, but both have execllent reputations
and are very helpful.

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Hi All

I have an ACE 10MB PCMCIA card that is compressed
using Stacker 3.0 and would like to be able to read
and write to this card on my laptop.  How do I
configure Windows 98 so it can read a compressed PC
card.

Phillip J. Allen
Consulting Geochemist/Geologist
Lima Peru
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->I know that QTEXT for DOS can show either latin or Hebrew letters.
->Is there a way to set up the program so that the various commands, help
->files, etc are shown in English?

Start the application with the "en" parameter:

"qtext /en" on the command line, not just qtext which defaults to Hebrew.

It will then appear in english.  Press F1 for help in English. Press F10
to switch between English and Hebrew.

To switch between English and Hebrew in editing use F10 and Shift F10 (for
the cursor).

Someone said there was a version of the manual in English but the one I
got was all in Hebrew and as the saying goes "that greek to me".  If
someone has an english version of the manual I wish they would let us know
where to find it.

Jeff

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Jeff

Thanks for the latest tip. I tried it and it works. Can't wait to show this
off to some of my friends.


I can now understand the English commands but type in Hebrew (keeping my
keyboard template cheat-sheet close by)!

This little machine never ceases to amaze me!

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I don't have time to respond in detail as I am about to leave for
meetings on the West Coast for a couple of weeks.

However, I think you misunderstand the nature of the link between
the pc and the phone. The link used by FoneSync *cannot* (to the
best of the current knowledge I have been able to dig up) be used
to perform phone functions. It can *only* be used to move phone data.
That is why you need different cables to use the phone as a modem.

So, if I were you, I'd make sure your #3 is doable before I spend one
second worrying about anything else. I don't think it is, and as a
result I am tempted to think the rest of your design is pointless.

figliozi wrote:
>
> David,
>
> First, I want to say thanks for your comments.  I always appreciate
> feedback, and it sounds like you might have gone down this path a little
> ... <snip> ...

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Whenever I put a reference to cell B4 into a formula, (for example:
"+B4*E4")  It changes +B4 to +\0.

It's not doing that with any other cell.  When I press F2 to edit the
formula, it displays properly, but when it's in the cell, it appears as +\0.

What's going on here?

Les

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R. Christopher Lott writes:
> Has anyone used NCSA Telnet on their palmtops?

You may want to beta test LXTELNET (which is based on NCSA Telnet,
but is configured to work with other HP200 applications.

See http://lxtcp.hplx.net/beta.html


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I use Lotus Manuscript on the palmtop for technical stuff. I like the
equation editor and used it to write a dissertation many years ago. I
know Word Perfect 5.1 will also handle equations but have never used
it and don't want to go through the learning curve. OTOH it is easier
for most people to import WP into a Windows app than to import
Manuscript. For me this is not a problem as I have a copy of Word for
Word on my OB800 which will convert most things to anything else.
(Unfortunately Word for Word is no longer available and so does not
handle the latest MS Word format distortions but will save to a prior
version which has proven adequate for my needs).

For plain text stuff I use PE. I have considered (and would prefer)
some flavour of Tex for the technical stuff but my employer requires
MS formatted documents and I know of no good way to import Tex into
MS Word.

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06h42m49s ago ...
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:50:16 -0600 (CST), Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRA=
MP.NET> wrote:

>
> Several people around me use Outlook, and I have successfully used
> Perl to move Outlook-exported contact lists into the 200LX. I agree
> with your ideas about how to go about it. I have not attempted to go
> the other direction, but it should be even easier since there are many
> fewer fields to hassle with. And I haven't had the need to do it with
> the calendar. But if anyone wants my Perl code, let me know.
>
>

Hello Curtis,

I am looking at trying to create a one key press solution to
synchronising HPLX to Outlook.   The solution if I am successful will
install itself as an icon in Outlook, and all would happen in windows.
The resulting appointment book could then optionally be sent to an
email address using outlook, or transferred to the palmtop using your
preferred method.

I was wondering if I could take you up on your offer to look at your
perl script to get me started.

Thank you,

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Write it @sum(b4,e4) to add

or (b4*e4) to multiply
Les Cohn wrote:
>
> Whenever I put a reference to cell B4 into a formula, (for example:
> "+B4*E4")  It changes +B4 to +\0.
>
> It's not doing that with any other cell.  When I press F2 to edit the
> formula, it displays properly, but when it's in the cell, it appears as +\0.
>
> What's going on here?
>
> Les
>
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Even though it changes "+B4"  to "+\0". It performs the function properly.
I just am asking "why" does it do this?  How does "+\" equal cell B4?  Why
does it only do it to cell B4?



>Write it @sum(b4,e4) to add
>
>or (b4*e4) to multiply
>Les Cohn wrote:
>>
>> Whenever I put a reference to cell B4 into a formula, (for example:
>> "+B4*E4")  It changes +B4 to +\0.
>>
>> It's not doing that with any other cell.  When I press F2 to edit the
>> formula, it displays properly, but when it's in the cell, it appears as
+\0.
>>
>> What's going on here?
>>
>> Les
>>
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>--
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>HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
>pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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I am running PAF 3.0 on my 200lx right now.  Except for a few color
problems, it runs fine.  Just needs to be configured for monochrome.  I
configured it on my desktop and then downloaded it to the palmtop -- 32
MB Doublespeed.

PAF 3.0 is available at www.deseretbook.com for about $20.  (Just search
for PAF)  I also have a lead on version 2.x(?) if anyone wants it.
Reply off list.

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Les Cohn wrote:

>Whenever I put a reference to cell B4 into a formula, (for example:
>"+B4*E4")  It changes +B4 to +\0.
>
>It's not doing that with any other cell.  When I press F2 to edit the
>formula, it displays properly, but when it's in the cell, it appears as =
+\0.
>
>What's going on here?

The cell B4 has a name, and that name is "\0", which is the special
name of a cell you want to be a macro that executes at load. In the
display line, it substitues range names for cell addresses where it
can, but when you edit, you see just the cell address.

I suspect you don't want this cell to be an auto-execute macro (since
you're calculating with it), so turn that off by doing a İMenu¨ Range
Clear, if I recall from my Lotus years.

-Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Hello All;

Is anyone using a DeLorme Tripmate with their 200LX?  What program are you
using/do you prefer?  Lat/Long display or a map of some sort?  What sort of
battery life are you getting out of the 200LX (it shouldn't be bad, but I'm
curious).

I've had my 200LX for about 2 weeks now, and it's time to really start
using it for the fun stuff!

Tom Frank

P.S. - y'all might want to check out the following site:

http://www.precisionnavigation.com

and look under PalmPilot.  They have two very nifty modules that I'm sure
some of you could easily adapt to the 200LX...

TAF

Thomas A. Frank (KA2CDK)
40 Swan Drive
Middletown, RI 02842
United States of America
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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Thomas A. Frank wrote:

> Is anyone using a DeLorme Tripmate with their 200LX?  What program are
> you using/do you prefer?  Lat/Long display or a map of some sort?

I use both GPSCGA, a shareware product, and LXGPS (freeware) with my
Tripmate. Both are great, and offer moving map displays.  LXGPS offers
other data screens as well.  The city and airport database included with
GPSCGA is pretty handy, but it does cost $39 to register (and that's a
special discount for palmtop users).

Both can be had at SUPER (that's www.palmtop.net, in case you haven't been
there yet).  I believe I have a review of the Tripmate/200LX combo up at
my site, www.hplx.net.

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Bennett:

 > > The limit is what the palmtop hardware can do. It can
 > > probably handle no more than 20,000-22,000 baud on DS
 > > machine. Clearly, as 33.6 modem is an overkill, but try and
 > > find a 14.4 modem these days :( ...
 >
 > What makes you say this?
 >
 > I run lxcopy over a direct serial link to com1: on my un-double-speeded 100LX
 > I can run it at 57,600 no problems, and when I was using my Times2Tech
 > clock-doubled 5MB 200LX (back before I started getting display problems), I
 > ran at 115,200 with only very rare failures. Of course now that I've got a Sun
 > on my desktop I can't run at 38,400 reliably. I really think that serial comms
 > is more dependant on the host system USART and drivers than on the LX.

The modems cannot do better than about 22,000-25,000 baud
on the palmtop. Other serial comm can exceed this. Also,
there is a difference between what the modem reports as the
speed between it and the palmtop, and between it and the
other modem.

 > And as a modem runs through the PCMCIA slot, good for 4Mbps, I'd be seriously
 > astonished if it had any such speed limits as you refer to. If the LX could
 > only reliably transfer data to the PCMCIA slot at c. 20Kbps, big FLASH cards
 > would be no fun at all:-).

I suggest that you sit on the fllor quickly, since a full
astonishment is on its way to you! :) -- it is also coupled
with a bit of reality check. Good luck, and don't forget to
duck in time.

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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> Whenever I put a reference to cell B4 into a formula, (for example:
 "+B4*E4")  It changes +B4 to +\0.<

That's because you have named the cell "\0". If you don't need that =
cellname
you can delete it by typing: <menu><range><name><delete>\0~.

This will erase the name of that cell, but not the contents.


Jan

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Yes.  about a year ago I had it working.  I took it off however.  I am out
of my home town for the next few days on a business trip.  I will look in
my back-ups to see if i stll have my setup.
will let you know next week.

Ron

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> From: JIMMY TAN <jimmytan@YHSM.PO.MY>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: NJStar Chinese Word Processor
> Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 8:11 PM
>
>      Hi everybody,
>
>      Has anyone out there managed to get NJStar Chinese Word Processor
>      running on the 200LX? I have NJCGA 2.1 which I downloaded some time
>      ago, though I can't remember where I got it from. Anyway I only
>      discovered recently that the zipped file package was incomplete
>      whereby a font file was missing. It seems to work beautifully with
the
>      200LX, but pity it's rather useless without the missing files.
>
>
>      Regards.
>
>      Jimmy Tan T.H.
>
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:51:40 +0800
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When you have uploaded your data to a PC from your HP you can use the
connectivity pack to modify it. A word of warning quicken data is only
modified on the palmtop.

I do this all the time. Now my palmtop is under repair but all my data is on
my notebook and I modify it here.

Richard

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>Can someone refer me to some more information regarding the connectivity
pack?
>Does this allow one to access and modify the palmtop's various appt book
and phone data files on a PC running DOS or windows?
>
>I'm interested only in the data access/mgmt side of things, not at all in
the data xfer side.
>
>Where can such software be purchased?
>
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I'm experimenting with NetTamer...

I set up NetTamer on my Win95 box and got it configured so that it dials
into my ISP OK. Then I copied the necessary files to my 200LX, and
changed the comm port and modem init string accordingly. It connects to
my ISP just fine, and looks like it starts the login script, but then it
immediately says "sending PPP logout request" and it disconnects.

I am able to use DataComm to dial into local BBSs with no problem. So
I'm pretty sure my modem (EXP ThinFax) is not the problem. I'm using the
same script that I used when I got it working from my Win95 box, so I
wouldn't think that is the problem either.

Any suggestions?

Steve Dowell

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I'm experimenting with =
NetTamer...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I set up NetTamer on my Win95 box and =
got it configured so that it dials into my ISP OK. Then I copied the =
necessary files to my 200LX, and changed the comm port and modem init =
string accordingly. It connects to my ISP just fine, and looks like it =
starts the login script, but then it immediately says &quot;sending PPP =
logout request&quot; and it disconnects.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I am able to use DataComm to dial into =
local BBSs with no problem. So I'm pretty sure my modem (EXP ThinFax) =
is not the problem. I'm using the same script that I used when I got it =
working from my Win95 box, so I wouldn't think that is the problem =
either.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Any suggestions?</FONT>
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> From:    Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>

> Even though it changes "+B4"  to "+\0". It performs the function properly.
> I just am asking "why" does it do this?  How does "+\" equal cell B4?  Why
> does it only do it to cell B4?

Les;

     It's not doing that here (can't reproduce it).
I imagine you may have a macro defined pointing to
that cell.

Steve

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Curtis,

I would also be interested in looking at the Perl code.  Is the
compiler/interpreter for Perl commercial or shareware?

L. Brooks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> David Eggins
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:16 PM
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>
>
> Hello Curtis,
>
> I am looking at trying to create a one key press solution to
> synchronising HPLX to Outlook.   The solution if I am successful will
> install itself as an icon in Outlook, and all would happen in windows.
> The resulting appointment book could then optionally be sent to an
> email address using outlook, or transferred to the palmtop using your
> preferred method.
>
> I was wondering if I could take you up on your offer to look at your
> perl script to get me started.
>
> Thank you,
>
> David Eggins
>
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:38:49 -0500
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I need a few used units of 100/200LX 2Meg (1Meg's are fine). Please do email me off
the list if you wish to clear off yours. Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:34:47 -0500
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Someone posted on the list a while back on where to obtain these units cheaply. Can
anyone please repost these info? Thanks!

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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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All of this discussion about getting other languages to work on
the LX, I got curious about something. Has HP ever made keyboard
templates for us? I know they made them for the 48 series of
calculators. Thin sheets of plastic with holes all over that you
can place right on top of the keyboard. Some were blank so that
you could write in your own keyboard assignments. Anybody heard
or seen these?

-Curtis, curtisb@optimus-corp.com

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:42:26 -0600
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              Bill Vickerman <bvickerman@CHRONIMED.COM>
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Currently CDW is the only one that shows having the 800/166 2.1gig hd 16meg
of ram, 8xCD drive and docking station for $1030.  The system is not in
stock as of this morning.  Good luck.
By the way if you need a second docking station I have two extra.
bill

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Subject: HP Omnibook 800?


Someone posted on the list a while back on where to obtain these units
cheaply. Can
anyone please repost these info? Thanks!

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I've done the same, but in reverse (LX first, then copied to Win95 notebook) and
it ran without problems and without needing much modification aside from

- the Comm config (only the com port changed, I used the default init string on
both systems, AT&F)
- user setups (the directories for editor and download area were different).

I was/am using NetTamer 1.08pt. I can't speak for the later versions.

Make sure you're running NetTamer on the LX from outside SysMgr or it'll
interfere with communications. There are several ways to do this:

1) exit SysMgr completely (More/Menu/Application/TerminateAll
2) run NT from MaxDOS
3) if you have enough memory in AppMgr to run NT from an icon (sans MaxDOS),
add the inverted ! to the Comments field for the icon to suppress SysMgr polling
     of the apps (Fn-!).

- Longden





Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> on 02/23/99 06:16:11 AM

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Subject:  NetTamer...




I'm experimenting with NetTamer...

I set up NetTamer on my Win95 box and got it configured so that it dials
into my ISP OK. Then I copied the necessary files to my 200LX, and
changed the comm port and modem init string accordingly. It connects to
my ISP just fine, and looks like it starts the login script, but then it
immediately says "sending PPP logout request" and it disconnects.

I am able to use DataComm to dial into local BBSs with no problem. So
I'm pretty sure my modem (EXP ThinFax) is not the problem. I'm using the
same script that I used when I got it working from my Win95 box, so I
wouldn't think that is the problem either.

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Thanks Longden... I did everything you mentioned except I used a
different
init string (I used the one from the EXP manual...AT&C &D). I'll try
using
AT&F and see if that makes a difference.

Steve


> - the Comm config (only the com port changed, I used the default init
> string on
> both systems, AT&F)
> - user setups (the directories for editor and download area were
> different).
>
> I was/am using NetTamer 1.08pt. I can't speak for the later versions.
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:16:20 -0500
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So there I was itting in the lounge at San Jose airport this =

morning when an announcement is made that if anyone has lost their =

HP200 Pocket Diary please come and claim it. So I toddle over and =

say ther is a way to find out who the owner is. Good says the =

United lady and I start exiting all the apps in SM. Top card say =

Sue MacD (you know who you are) of Anthem Electronics. So if you =

know her, United has it and she is due back in San Jose tomorrow =

2/23,=1A

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:57:31 +0100
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That's the way, to make the WinCE-Dummies crazy! Let them have a look into
this mailing list:

<snip>
>2) run NT from MaxDOS
>3) if you have enough memory in AppMgr to run NT from an icon (sans
MaxDOS),
</snip>

If they ask you about NT, you can say "what? you have only CE on your
gameboy?
well, the LX's run even NT from the SysManager. But of course, as mentioned
above,
the comms could interfere...". I tell you: they call the whole block for
this little palmtop
running WINDOWS NT and not WinCE and won't sleep the next night.

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35m03s ago ...
On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, colin cohen wrote:

> So there I was itting in the lounge at San Jose airport this
> morning when an announcement is made that if anyone has lost their
> HP200 Pocket Diary please come and claim it. So I toddle over and
> say ther is a way to find out who the owner is. Good says the
> United lady and I start exiting all the apps in SM. Top card say
> Sue MacD (you know who you are) of Anthem Electronics. So if you
> know her, United has it and she is due back in San Jose tomorrow
> 2/23,

     I just searched the subscriptions(as of 19Feb) for "macd", only =
found Jeff
MacDowell(Hi Jeff).

If you haven't doen it already...make sure your phone # is on your
TopCard!!!

Thanks Colin, and Good Luck Sue MacD where ever you are!

Cheers,

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HP Omnibook 800?
In-Reply-To:  <71CC4EA99494D21195B800A0C9DE9D0C01B64F@RCNTSXCH01>; from Bill
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I bought my 800 from MicroWarehouse back in January when the $999 special was
going on. Right after that, the 2.1GB models disappeared from the site and were
replaced with the 4GB models for $1199. This supposedly still included the 8X
SCSI CD-ROM and the docking station. I can't find them on the site anymore.
They do still have that nice auto adapter/spare battery/56K modem bundle for
$119; a very good deal.
--
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Subject:      Re: DOSSHELL vs. Software Caroussel
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On Monday, February 22, 1999 6:06 PM, Daniel Hertrich
İSMTP:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ wrote:

> could someone explain me please the differences between DOSSHELL ans SC?

Well, I'll try to make a small table.

                                                             Software
Carousel        DOSShell

Alarms wake up palmtop                                    Yes
              Only in SysMgr     Alarms will go off no matter what session
the palmtop is in.
Blue app keys open app from any session           Yes
                    No                 Pressing a blue app key will switch
to the SysMgr session and open app.
Runs specified files/batch on startup                   Yes
                    No                 Allows automatic file/TSR loading in
each session.
Two key switching between sessions                  Yes
                    No                 Shift-F1-F10, as opposed to
Shift-Tab to cycle.
Price                                                                $79+
                 Free

There are more..  A bit minus for DOSShell being that it corrupts a graphic
screen when you switch to it from another session.  Easy to 'fix', but
still annoying.  Fix is to open another window (such as F1 if it opens a
help window, then ESC out and everything is clear..)  Alarms are a big plus
for S.C., DOSShell can handle them with limitations using programs that
pull the next alarm from the stack, but need to switch back to SysMgr to
grab the next alarm, etc..  The menu key in DOSShell sometimes stops
working.  S.C. preallocates all required disk space for sessions, which is
a plus and a minus.  Minus is all that disk space is being unused if you're
not using it (makes me wish there was a dynamic allocation option for
little-used sessions) and plus is that you never have the darn error about
not having enough disk space to swap to another already open session as
DOSShell does.

There are more..  Check out my webpage in the signature below, I have a
DOSShell installation guide, plus a pointer to Thaddeus Palmtop Paper
article on DOSShell vs Software Carousel.

--
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:32:32 -0800
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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Longdon originally posted the info on microwarehouse.com with a package
deal of PC, floppy, CD rom and dock for $999.  FWIW, this is the best
laptop I have used.

Colin

Nicholas Chan wrote:
>
> Someone posted on the list a while back on where to obtain these units cheaply. Can
> anyone please repost these info? Thanks!

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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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To all (german?) users of LxTel:

I'm trying to set up something like a LxTel mailing list.
Those who subscribe receive an email whenever I update the
LXTEL.DAT database. This email will include the new zipped
LXTEL.DAT file of about 3KB.

If you want to subscribe, please send me private a short email.
If not specified otherwise, I will use your From: address.

                    TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
                    ----------------------
I will use WWW/LX in address list mode to send out my emails.
The header of the email will contain all email addresses of the
subscribers. So please only subscribe, if you agree that your
email address is known to every other subscriber.

I promise to not abuse your email address, however I can't do
anything, if another subscriber abuses it.

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Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Thanks, but credit goes to Jon Barrett (jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET).

Back on Nov 14, 1998, in a thread on DOS file times (of all places), he
incidentally mentioned the great microwarehouse deal and I think that's where
the stampede began (at least from this mailing list).

I happened to be looking for a Win95 notebook at the time for an upcoming JAVA
class...it was fortuitous.

I've been on this list for a while, and I'm always surprised to find how much
new information there is to be mined. So you never can tell....keep those
tidbits coming <g>.  And I agree that the 800 is the best laptop I've ever used,
and add also that it's the best Win95 machine (fast reboot and even then you can
go days without having to do so since it's always on).  But of course....the LX
still does all the real work!

- Longden





Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET> on 02/23/99 09:32:32 AM

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Subject:  Re: HP Omnibook 800?




Longdon originally posted the info on microwarehouse.com with a package
deal of PC, floppy, CD rom and dock for $999.  FWIW, this is the best
laptop I have used.

Colin

Nicholas Chan wrote:
>
> Someone posted on the list a while back on where to obtain these units
cheaply. Can
> anyone please repost these info? Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:03:01 +0100
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

is it possible to assign different icons to programs launched by SysMgr
with maxdos?

(for example I want to run WWW/LX and POST/LX from SysMgr with maxdos.
But I haven't found out how to assign the original WWW/LX- and POST/LX
icons).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:57:07 -0500
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              Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi Folks,
Longtime lurker taking a peek over the foxhole...
I have been exasperated trying to link my HP200 to my IBM Aptiva 333 PII
monster.  I upgraded, if that's what we call it, from 3.1 and I don't lik=
e
it all.  But what's really bothering me is that I have more connectivity
software for the HP than anybody on this list.  Exageration for effect of=

course.  I have the HP-CPack, PalmConnect (remember that?), LapLink and G=
od
knows what else.  Problem is, my Win 98 com1 port has been subsumed by so=
me
program I probably don't even want.  Ever since I loaded software for my
Storm Technology scanner, I have not been able to download my digital
camera pictures through the Com1 port.  =

I think that this evil being has exerted control over the port and won't
allow any of the above to use the port either.
As you can see, I'm wrestling with a bear and I'm mentally unarmed for
this.  =

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, anyone noticed that the CIS HP Hand forum page won't load or is just=

me?

Cheers from Muscat,
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I downloaded, created the disk, and "ran" the QNX demo.  Amazing!  Ok,
why am I posting this crap to HPLX-L?  I want this to work on my
Palmtop!!!  QNX and Amiga are going to be my future (QNX is the
contracted supplier of Amiga OS <insert version here>) and I would like
to see this kind of functionality in my handheld.  I am well aware of
why the QNX demo can _not_ run on an HP200, so please don't waste any
time (your time is, believe it or not, as important to me as it is to
you) explaining why I will never see this demo run on my palmtop.  What
I would like to see is the same sort of attention to "size" applied to
future products for thew palmtop.  I'm not married to DOS, and if
someone out there can find a way to do stuff better than M$, I'm all for
it!

Phil

Post Script: I have yet to see network support from the demo, but I
haven't tried setting my network card to "standard" defaults.  Also, the
demo does not "see" my video card, so I get 16 colors at 640 x 480.  It
seems to work otherwise on a 486DX/2-66, VLB.

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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Thanks for the reply.

Should we all band together and do a email campaign to Puma Tech ?

He who whines the loudest.......?  8-)

Jon


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jguenthe İmailto:jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com¨
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:56 AM
> To: Carson, Jon A.
> Subject: RE: OutLook beta testing
>
>
> Jon,
>
> Intrllisync and Outlook 98 are fine but not for the 200lx.
> They have the
> technology to build the product we all (hp200lx users) want,
> but refuse to
> do so.  I have Intellisync for the HP200lx and it does not
> support Outlook.
> Several requests to the Puma people netted no replies at all.
>  I guess we
> are just not where they want to focus attention, but they sure should.
> Shouldn't take much work for them since they already know how
> to deal with
> both sides of tbe equation.
>
> John Guenther
> ----------
> From:         Carson, Jon A.İSMTP:JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM¨
> Sent:         Monday, February 22, 1999 10:17 AM
> Subject:      Re: OutLook beta testing
>
> Hi all,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: L. Brooks İmailto:ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU¨
> > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 1999 10:39 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: OutLook beta testing
> >
> >
> > I just joined this list a couple of days ago after doing a
> > search on HP200
> > and Outlook and have finished searching your archives on the topic.
> >
> > Please count me in to support beta testing a 200 <-->
> Outlook program.
> >
>
> Count me in too.
>
>
> BTW: Has anybody had sucess with PumaTech's Intellisync and
> Outlook 98 ?
>
>
> TIA,
> Jon C.
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:52:33 -0600
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We didn't have a Sue MacD but we do have others at Anthem in our db.
One of our phone people will give one of these customers a call.

Hal at Thaddeus

<<So there I was itting in the lounge at San Jose airport this
morning when an announcement is made that if anyone has lost their
HP200 Pocket Diary please come and claim it. So I toddle over and
say ther is a way to find out who the owner is. Good says the
United lady and I start exiting all the apps in SM. Top card say
Sue MacD (you know who you are) of Anthem Electronics. So if you
know her, United has it and she is due back in San Jose tomorrow
2/23, >>

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- On the icon edit screen (F3 from AppMgr), put the path/name of the app
executable in "Path"
- Then go to "Icon" and pick the app icon (which should be in the same directory
as the app executable)
- After the icon is set, then go back to "Path" and pre-pend the MaxDOS
string...the icon should stay unchanged when you do this.

This tip was from Avi.....way back.

- Longden





Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> on 02/23/99 10:03:01 AM

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Hi,

is it possible to assign different icons to programs launched by SysMgr
with maxdos?

(for example I want to run WWW/LX and POST/LX from SysMgr with maxdos.
But I haven't found out how to assign the original WWW/LX- and POST/LX
icons).

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<<Thanks for the reply.
Should we all band together and do a email campaign to Puma Tech ?
He who whines the loudest.......?  8-)>>

I certainly don't want to discourage anyone, but ...  At Comdex I spoke
to one of the Japanese co-inventors of the doublespeed who now works for
Puma.  He said it's not going to happen, it would require too much work.
--- David S:  were you there when we discussed that?

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> I certainly don't want to discourage anyone, but ...  At Comdex I
> spoke to one of the Japanese co-inventors of the doublespeed who now
> works for Puma.  He said it's not going to happen, it would require
> too much work. --- David S:  were you there when we discussed that?

Yup, and I considered responding as you did, but decided to wait and see
if you would.

Kazuhisa Terasaki (that is his name, right?) who works at Puma on their
sync products told us that Puma has vowed only do WinCE and Pilot software
from now on.  Looks like we'll have to turn to somebody else to get a good
Outlook sync program... although for my opinion on this, you can check out
my "Humorous HPLX-L FAQ" under the question "Can I sync up my 200LX with
Outlook 98?"  <g>

Oh, one thing Kazu told me that was very interesting is that he has a
site, www.smartbookmark.com, where you can bookmark sites in case you have
multiple locations you use Netscape / WWW/XL / IE4 / whatever at.  It's
partly in Japanese, but you can see what it's like at
http://www.smartbookmark.com/hplx/ .  It has some palmtop links.

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:03:01 +0100, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> =
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is it possible to assign different icons to programs launched by SysMgr
> with maxdos?
>
> (for example I want to run WWW/LX and POST/LX from SysMgr with maxdos.
> But I haven't found out how to assign the original WWW/LX- and POST/LX
> icons).

What I do is run POST/LX and WWW/LX from a batch file of the same name as
the Icon ( postlx.bat =3D postlx.icn, www.bat =3D www.icn ).

The batch files look like this:

postlx.bat =3D maxdos.com www -d "!POST"
www.bat =3D maxdos www.exe

HTH

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
İhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Thanks to all who helped on my Lotus Question.  Jan Brandt and Curtis
Cameron had the correct solution.  The cell had been named "\0" and merely
had to delete using MENU, RANGE, NAME.

Thanks everyone.

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Anybody have any brief info at all on the following DOS programmes:-

Memory Mate (type of PIM rather like Info Select? Is it better or worse
than Info Select?)
Framework (WP, SS, DB application). Amy benefits to using it? How good
is the database part of the programme?

Thanks for any info.

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Hey you PAL experts out there... Or other programmers smarter than me =
İnot particularly hard criteria ;)¨


What is the significance (and difference) of the LogicalPage and PhysicalP=
age variables in the EMS calls? From what I deduce by looking at the =
source code, the physical page is the offset into the EMS buffer in 16Kb =
chunks - if I allocate four EMS pages with an EmsAlloc(4) then I have =
four physical pages of memory (0..3) to map into. This make sense to me. =
I don't see what the significance of the Logical page is though, and in =
all the examples it is simply set to one. A variable that is always set =
to one sounds curiously like a constant to me, or a parameter whose =
function I don't understand. Anybody give me a hint?

Thanks,
Brian

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I'll speak for Framework, since I've used it for a few years on my desktop (and
now the LX... Framework-4).

The database stinks.

At least in comparison to the built-in LX database, and most modern ones.

Lots of things you take for granted (like named subsets on the LX) or disk
storage vs RAM (like Dbase or any real DB) are possible in Framework, but you
generally have to code some of the features yourself (using the built-in
language, FRED). Want to search a particular field for a string?....code a FRED
function (tho the drop down menus do allow you to search the whole DB without
regard to field).

The out-of-the-box DB in Framework is similar to a spreadsheet, both in concept
and execution. You can tailor the views (one record per row, one record per
screen, etc), but there's very little to aid you in building radio buttons or
selection lists, or more importantly to do the most basic queries without
writing a FRED function to do so. In that sense (to me) it combines the worst
parts of a GUI and a command interface. The GUI methods are so generic that
they're almost useless, and the commands (FRED) are not even close to
English-like.

All of your database is in RAM.

The great promise of Framework, way back when... was that it would serve as a
front-end for Dbase (made by the same vendor), but for probably marketing
reasons this never happened. There are functions that will allow you to access
DBF files in FW, but even the recently mentioned DoDBF program (tiny) that Mitch
mentioned does a better job at browsing and searching a DBF file than FW.

FW's DB is good if:

1) you have a small DB (say 100-200 records) that partners with a spreadsheet or
a document
     or
2) you really like to program a lot (in FRED)

FW's strong suit has always been that the entire package is better than the sum
of its parts. The ability to organize your data in an outlined structured method
is a FW trademark that's hard to describe (or to beat...I still use it for any
project of complexity...tho this is not the DB aspect).

Aside from that, lots of people coded entire applications including turnkey DBs
using FW as the foundation....it's possible, but be prepared...it's not for
people who want gratification right out of the box.

- Longden





Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK> on 02/23/99 12:18:16 PM

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Subject:  Anyone heard of these?




Anybody have any brief info at all on the following DOS programmes:-

Memory Mate (type of PIM rather like Info Select? Is it better or worse
than Info Select?)
Framework (WP, SS, DB application). Amy benefits to using it? How good
is the database part of the programme?

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You have the name "\0" assigned to the cell B4. Names allow you to access
you data without having to remember the exact location. E.g.
    +DISTANCE/TIME
is more readable than
    +B4/A4
The special names "\<Letter/Digit>" are used to refer to keyboard macros.
For example, if you press Alt-T, 1-2-3 checks if there is a cell named "\T",
and if yes, starts to execute the commands there and going down the row
until an empty cell.
The special name "\0" is used for the AUTOEXEC macro: a macro that is
executed whenever the file is opened.

See:
/Range Name Create -- to define a new name for a range of cells
/Range Name Delete -- to delete a name
/Range Name Table -- to list all the names in the worksheet

Regards,
Paulo

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>Whenever I put a reference to cell B4 into a formula, (for example:
>"+B4*E4")  It changes +B4 to +\0.

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130 plus shipping or trade.
Comes with 2 extra print cart. and was only used to print a test page.
Has infrared interface and parallel and can accept serial input with a
cable from citizen.
thanks
mike

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Subject:      keyboard problem

My 200 LX has suddenly develloped a new "click" when I press the "0" key
(the one that has caps above it).  It sounds as if there might be
something cracked under it or some dirt.  None of the surrounding keys do
it.  The 0 key works fine, but I am wondering if there might be some dirt
or a crack of whatever is under it.

How complicated or dangerous would it be to get under the keyboard and
look or blow possible dirt away?

Any ideas what might be causing this?

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>Kazuhisa Terasaki (that is his name, right?) who works at Puma on their
>sync products told us that Puma has vowed only do WinCE and Pilot software
>from now on.  Looks like we'll have to turn to somebody else to get a good
>Outlook sync program...

If developers are syncing Outlook etc with WinCE is it any easier for us to
sync with Wince? <shudder> Long way round but maybe beneficial if a
multipurpose sync can be achieved.

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:

> How complicated or dangerous would it be to get under the keyboard and
> look or blow possible dirt away?

I do it all the time, but mostly to get keys working again, not just to
make those extra clikcking noises go away.  Basically, you carefully
remove the overlay, then carefully pry up the plastic keyboard underneath.
You don't need to remove the whole thing-- just the part near the location
you want to clean.  Once you have enough room underneath, lift up the
plastic overlay and clean the contact points and the plastic bubble above
it with an alcohol-dipped cotton swab.  Let it dry, and then reassemble
the thing.  Should be fine.  I've done it two or three times in the past
couple weeks alone.

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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Russell Hemery wrote:

> If developers are syncing Outlook etc with WinCE is it any easier for
> us to sync with Wince? <shudder> Long way round but maybe beneficial
> if a multipurpose sync can be achieved.

I'm reasonably certain that would be too horrible to even think about.
<g>

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->I do it all the time, but mostly to get keys working again, not just to
->make those extra clikcking noises go away.  Basically, you carefully
->remove the overlay, then carefully pry up the plastic keyboard
->underneath. You don't need to remove the whole thing-- just the part
->near the location you want to clean.

Thanks.

Well, I would sure like to try it.  What do you mean when you say "remove
the overlay"  What is holding it in place right now?  How do you remove
it?  Do you just put a thin knife under the overlay and pry it up or do
you need to take the LX case apart first?

Jeff

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does the infrared work with the palm top?

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 2:28 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: *FS* citizen pn-60i
>
>
> 130 plus shipping or trade.
> Comes with 2 extra print cart. and was only used to print a test page.
> Has infrared interface and parallel and can accept serial input with a
> cable from citizen.
> thanks
> mike
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:07:21 -0600
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Subject:      Re: keyboard problem
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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:

> the overlay"  What is holding it in place right now?  How do you remove
> it?  Do you just put a thin knife under the overlay and pry it up or do
> you need to take the LX case apart first?

I watched "The Master" (Mack) do this to my LX and he just gently lifted
it up with a small sharp knifelike object.

73 es gl Jeff W4JEF

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 malkajef@orthohelp.com wrote:

> Well, I would sure like to try it.  What do you mean when you say
> "remove the overlay"  What is holding it in place right now?  How do
> you remove it?  Do you just put a thin knife under the overlay and pry
> it up or do you need to take the LX case apart first?

It's held on by an adhesive.  Basically, assuming it comes off nicely, you
just put a thin screwdriver or something like that in near a corner and
pry it up a bit, then peel it off by grabbing a corner.  You don't need to
take anything apart to get the keyboard off, although if you want the
whole thing off it's sometimes easier if you take the bottom apart and
push the pegs out of the holes.  But just for cleaning, it can be done
externally.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:01:57 -0500
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              CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL
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From:         "Leonard W. Cavalier" <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: HP Omnibook 800?
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I agree, the Omnibook 800 is about the best overall notebook computer
package I have ever seen.  Great balance of features and size/weight, very
powerful subsystems, and that great keyboard!  I had always admired the
"packaging" of this series since it first appeared as the 300, I think.  But
it had always been way too expensive for me.  When I somehow stumbled across
the deal at Micro Warehouse, I coudln't help myself.  At the time, they had
sold out of the 800CT (P166MMX, TFT, etc.) for $1499 so I had to get the
800CS (P100, DSTN, etc.) for $1199.  Four or five months later, I found out
the 800CT was being sold again, this time for $999!  Once again, couldn't
resist.

Too bad this form factor has been abandoned.  A notebook this size with
truly full-size main keys remains unmatched in the market.

Has anyone with an HP Omnibook 800 noticed that the PIM software is
essentially the 100/200-LX Appopintment Book and Phone Book, so there is
direct compatibility?  Siily me - I am new to the list - it must have
certainly been noticed, and the topic probably has been beaten to death.
Sorry.   I just had to chime in for the Omnibook 800!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden Loo İSMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:45 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP Omnibook 800?
>
> Thanks, but credit goes to Jon Barrett (jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET).
>
> Back on Nov 14, 1998, in a thread on DOS file times (of all places), he
> incidentally mentioned the great microwarehouse deal and I think that's
> where
> the stampede began (at least from this mailing list).
>
> I happened to be looking for a Win95 notebook at the time for an upcoming
> JAVA
> class...it was fortuitous.
>
> I've been on this list for a while, and I'm always surprised to find how
> much
> new information there is to be mined. So you never can tell....keep those
> tidbits coming <g>.  And I agree that the 800 is the best laptop I've ever
> used,
> and add also that it's the best Win95 machine (fast reboot and even then
> you can
> go days without having to do so since it's always on).  But of
> course....the LX
> still does all the real work!
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET> on 02/23/99 09:32:32 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
> respond
>       to Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
> Subject:  Re: HP Omnibook 800?
>
>
>
>
> Longdon originally posted the info on microwarehouse.com with a package
> deal of PC, floppy, CD rom and dock for $999.  FWIW, this is the best
> laptop I have used.
>
> Colin
>
> Nicholas Chan wrote:
> >
> > Someone posted on the list a while back on where to obtain these units
> cheaply. Can
> > anyone please repost these info? Thanks!
>
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:23:39 -0500
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              CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL
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From:         "Leonard W. Cavalier" <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: HP link to Win 98  - com1 problems?
Comments: To: tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM
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I think your problem with the COM port takeover has nothing to do with
Win98, but all to do with the Storm Technologies Scanner.  I have a "Smart
Page Pro" from these folks, I went through some grief with the software
installation as well.  Turns out a program is installed to run automatically
at startup (by shortcut placed in C:\Windows\İProfiles\User\...¨\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup) that constantly monitors the port to which the
scanner is supposed to be connected, so that anytime you place a page in the
scanner it will automatically start the scanning software.  In my case, that
program is called "Watchdog."  See if this or some other program you
recognize is running by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del and looking at the "task"
list, and/or look for it in your Startup folder.  Just take the shortcut out
of your Startup folder and re-boot, and you should have control of your COM
port back.

(Vent follows)  This annoying situation happens with the installation of
many a device or program these days, especially scanners.  I guess they are
trying to make it easy for computer-clueless folks, but it irks me that I
have to go on wild-goose chases to track down these miscreant installation
monsters.  It appears the manufacturers assume you are only installing their
device or program on your computer and nothing else matters.  And all for
the sake of having a scanner start up when you insert a page, rahter than
you first double-clicking on a desktop icon, let's say, to start the
software?  Good Lord!  One thing that would be helpful - at installation,
provide a button called "Advanced Options" where you are told what other
things will be surreptitiously installed on your achine and give you the
opportunity to say no.  This way the average fool doesn't have to fret over
installations questions he/she doesn't understand, but those who know can
get more control.  I guess such people are a very tiny minority of the
consumer market, though.


Finally, that Smart Page Pro is a nice color page scanner overall, but I
realized after I bought it that the reason the scanning program always
crashed when I scanned a regular 8 1/2 x 11 color page was that it only
scans to 10" length!!  The spec was on the box, but I didn't notice it.  Who
would have thought?  Sorry if this should be posted to the Scanner
annoyances list! |-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Nemeth İSMTP:tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:57 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      HP link to Win 98  - com1 problems?
>
> Hi Folks,
> Longtime lurker taking a peek over the foxhole...
> I have been exasperated trying to link my HP200 to my IBM Aptiva 333 PII
> monster.  I upgraded, if that's what we call it, from 3.1 and I don't like
> it all.  But what's really bothering me is that I have more connectivity
> software for the HP than anybody on this list.  Exageration for effect of
> course.  I have the HP-CPack, PalmConnect (remember that?), LapLink and
> God
> knows what else.  Problem is, my Win 98 com1 port has been subsumed by
> some
> program I probably don't even want.  Ever since I loaded software for my
> Storm Technology scanner, I have not been able to download my digital
> camera pictures through the Com1 port.
> I think that this evil being has exerted control over the port and won't
> allow any of the above to use the port either.
> As you can see, I'm wrestling with a bear and I'm mentally unarmed for
> this.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> BTW, anyone noticed that the CIS HP Hand forum page won't load or is just
> me?
>
> Cheers from Muscat,
> Tom Nemeth
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:38:39 -0500
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              CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL
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From:         "Leonard W. Cavalier" <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: HP Lotus 1-2-3 Question
Comments: To: lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Note that naming a cell "\0" defines a macro that will be run automatically
when the file is opened.  Very handy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Cohn İSMTP:lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 1:15 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP Lotus 1-2-3 Question
>
> Thanks to all who helped on my Lotus Question.  Jan Brandt and Curtis
> Cameron had the correct solution.  The cell had been named "\0" and merely
> had to delete using MENU, RANGE, NAME.
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> -
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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:49:55 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> It's already done, good buddy.  Your site is listed as games.hplx.net =
in our
> Affiliates section.

Excellent! Once again, thank you very much!

Incidentally, I've finished "Unlimited Hangman", which is
now available for download, as is "Electrobody", a shareware
game from Germany.

 -Mike

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:55:46 -0500
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              CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL
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From:         "Leonard W. Cavalier" <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Appointment Book Question
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Hi, all.

I just subscribed to this list yesterday, though I have been an HP LX
enthusiast for some time.  Started with a 95LX 1Mb seven or so years ago,
now I have a 200LX 2Mb that I have been using for three or four years.

My question - is there any way to stop the Appointment Book program from
automatically saving the file after every little change?  I frequently use
some macros to shift things around, but they run slowly because, I surmise,
of this autosave every time you make a change.  The autosave is a nice
feature most of the time, but if I could disable it temporarily while
running macros to re-organize things it would be great.  I seem to remember
reading about this some time ago, maybe in an issue of the venerable HP
Palmtop Paper?

Thanks. And by the way - I own and have *tried* to use, in addition to the
95 and 200LX, an AST GridPad (Zoomer), an HP OmniGo 100, and a Casio A-11
(Windows CE - an absolute joke!).  I keep coming back to the 200 LX.  It's
such a sophisticated, rugged, intelligent, easily portable, emminently
useful little machine!

        - Lenny Cavalier
          CavalierLW@nswccd.navy.mil


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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:05:01 -0600
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              Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: *FS* citizen  pn-60i
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I am interested.  Your price?

Les

Subject: *FS* citizen pn-60i


>130 plus shipping or trade.
>Comes with 2 extra print cart. and was only used to print a test page.
>Has infrared interface and parallel and can accept serial input with a
>cable from citizen.
>thanks
>mike
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:15:02 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Appointment Book Question
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I think the delay is caused by the "garbage collection" routines in the DB app.
You may want to look at FASTDB on the SUPER site. This is the blurb:

The database normally marks each changed record (either modified or deleted,
but *not* added) as "garbage" on disk.  The next database action that
can be undone (either an add, delete, or modify), collects garbage in the
file by moving the file around to collapse out the deleted space.  For
large files, this can take a long time.  The database is smart
enough to not bother collecting garbage if there is nothing to collect.
In case you wondered, the purpose of the database garbage collection is
to keep files small (which is normally desirable :-).

FASTDB intercepts all calls to the database garbage collection,
and forstalls them until the file is closed.  Instead of multiple
calls to compress the file throughout its use, you only suffer through
one while closing the file.  This has two implications. First and
foremost is that until you close the file, the file will not be garbage
collected!  If you're changing a lot of records, or even a few on a
large file, this can be an enormous time savings.  The second
implication is that for each change you make to the file, the file will
grow.  Since the "marked for dead" records are never packed out, your
database files will slowly keep increasing in size until you close the
applications using them.  This probably won't be a problem, but you have
been warned in case you are tight on space to begin with.

- Longden





"Leonard W. Cavalier" <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL> on 02/23/99 04:55:46 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Appointment Book Question




Hi, all.

I just subscribed to this list yesterday, though I have been an HP LX
enthusiast for some time.  Started with a 95LX 1Mb seven or so years ago,
now I have a 200LX 2Mb that I have been using for three or four years.

My question - is there any way to stop the Appointment Book program from
automatically saving the file after every little change?  I frequently use
some macros to shift things around, but they run slowly because, I surmise,
of this autosave every time you make a change.  The autosave is a nice
feature most of the time, but if I could disable it temporarily while
running macros to re-organize things it would be great.  I seem to remember
reading about this some time ago, maybe in an issue of the venerable HP
Palmtop Paper?

Thanks. And by the way - I own and have *tried* to use, in addition to the
95 and 200LX, an AST GridPad (Zoomer), an HP OmniGo 100, and a Casio A-11
(Windows CE - an absolute joke!).  I keep coming back to the 200 LX.  It's
such a sophisticated, rugged, intelligent, easily portable, emminently
useful little machine!

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:45:08 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      more corruption...
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I have managed to corrupt two telephone files. I'd like to run garlic
against them but i understand that if a file is passworded then you canno=
t.
 If this is true, does anyone know a work-around?  If not, can some walk =
me
through this?  Or, to really demonstrate my ineptitude, can I send the
files to someone for software surgery?
As always, appreciate the lists assistance!
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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:50:56 -0500
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              Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi All,
As you can see from my recent  postings, my computer life has pretty well=

seized up lately at least vis a vis my HP support system.  Before acquiri=
ng
a new desktop, I backed up with a Compaq Aero 486/25mhx sub-notebook whic=
h
actually does just abouty everything I want it to except that it's in man=
y
pieces but still function.  I recall that there used to a few folks who
used this nifty machine hence my quest here.

Nonetheless, this did not stop me from messing up the external drive
somehow and now it isn't recognized by the Compaq.  Can someone direct me=

to a source of drivers (Compaq webpage does not have anything useful)?  =

All advice/suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.

Tom in Muscat =

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:52:00 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 10:45 PM 23/02/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I have managed to corrupt two telephone files. I'd like to run garlic
>against them but i understand that if a file is passworded then you cannot.
> If this is true, does anyone know a work-around?  If not, can some walk me

Hi Tom

Can you access any of the records at all?  Like display 99% of them ?

Cut'n'paste to another DB if you can.

Print?

Ascii looksee ??

Just a few thoughts

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:59:18 +1100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: off topic - drivers for a compaq aero
Comments: To: Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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  Can someone direct me
>to a source of drivers (Compaq webpage does not have anything useful)?
>All advice/suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.

Hi again Tom & list

Try www.drivershq.com

I found a few drivers there for various things

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Date:         Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:07:04 -0800
Reply-To:     camba1@pacbell.net
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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      DATAPERFECT DATABASE
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Hi David!

I just downloaded a database from http;//surf.to/dataperfect  found in
my copy of
HP Palmtop Paper vol 8 no#1 1999 pages 10 - 12

question: I can't seem to display all of th screen that the author has
on pages 10-12
the graphics are cut off or way off the screen or I get half of the
display.
is this because the calls to the 200LX screen are for pc desktops
screens.
what do I have to do to have the program display the graphics found in
the acticle?

                        Bob Elliott Jr

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:09:36 +0000
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I use a DOS version of Family Tree Maker (V. 4.0).  Works great.

Kat
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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:24:55 +1100
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Hello all,

Does anyone know of a German/English Translation program that will run
on the palmtop?

Even just a plain text word list would help.

Also, does anyone know if I can create the:

a-Umlat
o-umlat
u-Umlat
EsZet

characters on the palmtop?

Thank you very much for any help
(Danke schon)

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:24:53 +1100
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Hello all,

Bad news on the outlook synch program I was going to try to write.  My
workload has just increased as of this week.  I will be doing
considerable extra time at work over the next 3 months, and at the same
time, my German course which was cancelled is back on, with longer
hours to make up time.

I still have all emails on the project, so if  a solution has not been
developed after this busy period, I will attempt it.

Thank you all for offers of beta testing, I still have your details for
when I do get around to it.


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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:26:13 +0100
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Try www.yellow.de, I saw an E-G/G-E something there...

br

Franklin


-----Original Message-----
From: David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 1:25 PM
Subject: German on English palmtop.


Hello all,

Does anyone know of a German/English Translation program that will run
on the palmtop?

Even just a plain text word list would help.

Also, does anyone know if I can create the:

a-Umlat
o-umlat
u-Umlat
EsZet

characters on the palmtop?

Thank you very much for any help
(Danke schon)

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:46:45 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, David Eggins wrote:

> Does anyone know of a German/English Translation program that will run
> on the palmtop?
>
> Even just a plain text word list would help.


There is a dictionary called "DICTY" that works well on my
200LX and seems to do a good job (although I haven't used it
a lot).  I can't recall where I got it, but it's a bit over
one megabyte zipped.  It is freeware.  If you have a robust
mailbox, I could send it to you.


> Also, does anyone know if I can create the:
>
> a-Umlat      Fn-5 and Shift-Fn-5

> o-umlat      Fn-4 and Shift-Fn-4

> u-Umlat      Alt-Menu-129 and Alt-Menu-154

> EsZet        Fn-s

This is assuming your palmtop is set up with codepage 850.
If you have access to a manual, take a look at page C-4.
There are many nifty characters which can be generated this
way.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:56:51 -0700
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              Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM>
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AIEEEE!

I've had the beginnings of the crack for some time now.  I noticed
yesterday that the crack was large enough for a dime to fit into.  Is it
too late to repair my constant companion?  Could someone point me to a site
covering this? (or mail me off list with directions?)

I would greatly appreciate it.

Chris

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:48:42 -0000
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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You mean 'on a US palmtop' - my English (British) plamtop has the overlay
with the special characters printed on it already in purple (Fn-).

I could never understand why the US one does not, but does have the
application names in words under the green buttons.  The cost of having 2
different ones...when US users are just as likely to wonder where the tilde
is, or want those upside-down ? and ! for the application setup.

BTW how do we get a Euro symbol on the LX ?  i.e. how do we modify or add
codepages.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:19:16 -0500
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              Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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If you are looking for a OB800 sized machine with a full-size keyboard, you
might want to look at the Toshiba 3010ct (called the Dynabook in Japan).
It's about the size of the OB800 but thinner, lighter, and more powerful.

--Patrick McGouirk


-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard W. Cavalier <CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: HP Omnibook 800?


>I agree, the Omnibook 800 is about the best overall notebook computer
>package I have ever seen.  Great balance of features and size/weight, very
>powerful subsystems, and that great keyboard! ..........

>........Too bad this form factor has been abandoned.  A notebook this size
with
>truly full-size main keys remains unmatched in the market.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:24:32 -0500
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              Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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I recently downloaded all the drivers and BIOS updates for my Aero 4/25 from
Compaq at the following web address.

http://www.compaq.com/support/files/portables/us/index.html


--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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From: Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:52 PM
Subject: off topic - drivers for a compaq aero


>Hi All,
>As you can see from my recent  postings, my computer life has pretty well
>seized up lately at least vis a vis my HP support system.  Before acquiring
>a new desktop, I backed up with a Compaq Aero 486/25mhx sub-notebook which
>actually does just abouty everything I want it to except that it's in many
>pieces but still function.  I recall that there used to a few folks who
>used this nifty machine hence my quest here.
>
>Nonetheless, this did not stop me from messing up the external drive
>somehow and now it isn't recognized by the Compaq.  Can someone direct me
>to a source of drivers (Compaq webpage does not have anything useful)?
>All advice/suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.
>
>Tom in Muscat
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>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:25:35 +0100
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              Etienne Lemaire <stelem@IBM.NET>
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There's a free download 7 language dictionary available, also in Dos, from:
http://www.windi7.com
Somewhere in the archives, I seem to remember Stefan Peichl gave detailed
instructions for a palmtop install

Etienne Lemaire
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From: David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: German on English palmtop.
Date: mercredi 24 fivrier 1999 13:24

Hello all,

Does anyone know of a German/English Translation program that will run
on the palmtop?

Even just a plain text word list would help.

Also, does anyone know if I can create the:

a-Umlat
o-umlat
u-Umlat
EsZet

characters on the palmtop?

Thank you very much for any help
(Danke schon)

David Eggins

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:35:11 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Thaddeus Computing also sells the Collins Multilingual dictionary, which
includes a German module... it's not really a translator, but I find
it useful.  There's a review of it at http://www.hplx.net.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:38:50 -0600
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The following appeared in the alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp   newsgroup:



I must add this as I have managed to fix permanently (as permanent as
anything made of plastic could be).
I had the hinge crack appear a few months ago and I have lived with it
and been careful during use.
I was in two minds whether to glue or try to melt it back together. I
decided not to glue and tested a heated up tiny screwdriver on an
inconspicuous part of the machine. It worked perfectly. I used the
heated screwdriver to melt the joint of the crack and pushed the two
halves together with a pencil. I had to re-melt and re-model the joint
to make it look half decent and smooth and to ensure that the repair
went right into the full depth of the material.
It is not as smart as before but it is solid and has saved me 180 ukp
that was being charged by HP for the repair.
The price of 180 ukp is fair but I am glad that I am saved that expense
at least for the time being.

Cheers
Ross
--
Ross Lewis

Chris Hoover wrote:

> AIEEEE!
>
> I've had the beginnings of the crack for some time now.  I noticed
> yesterday that the crack was large enough for a dime to fit into.  Is it
> too late to repair my constant companion?  Could someone point me to a site
> covering this? (or mail me off list with directions?)
>
> I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Chris
>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:47:21 +0100
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              Peter Auer <peter.auer@ONLINE.DE>
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Herz was willst Du mehr.
Nachdem ich schon vom Programm wahnsinnig begeistert bin, jetzt auch
noch ein Update auf e-mail Basis.

HP200LX ist halt doch das beste


Gru_

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:07:53 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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David,
I have installed the Collins Dictionary from Thaddeus on my
2x32MB machine (with Software Carousel). Works great for English
as the center language, as it translates to French, German, Spanish
and Italian, and back.
On a flashcard I have installed the free version of the WINDI
dictionary. Here, you can declare any language of 6 (the above
plus portuguese) as the center language and get translations
of all other 5 languages in one table.
Collins normally has more words (though no Portuguese).

For Umlaute you create the trema (2 point on top) with FN+u
and then type the letter where you want the trema to go.
O-Umlaut and A-Umlaut, though not U-Umlaut, you can create
directly with FN+4 and FN+5.
I never write EsZet and use double s. I think EsZet was banned
anyway through the Rechtschreibreform.

Regards
Winfried

> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know of a German/English Translation program that will run
> on the palmtop?
> Also, does anyone know if I can create the:
> a-Umlat
> o-umlat
> u-Umlat
> EsZet
> characters on the palmtop?

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:07:56 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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> To all (german?) users of LxTel:
>
> I'm trying to set up something like a LxTel mailing list.
> Those who subscribe receive an email whenever I update the
> LXTEL.DAT database. This email will include the new zipped
> LXTEL.DAT file of about 3KB.

Phantastisch ! Ich wohne zwar in Spanien, aber fuer
Deutschlandreisen ist die Liste sehr willkommen. Bitte
nehmen Sie mich auf! Dank,
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:07:59 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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> I use a DOS version of Family Tree Maker (V. 4.0).  Works great.
>
Kat, where can I get this program ?
Thanks Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:24:51 -0800
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              "Seim, Ellen M" <ellen.m.seim@INTEL.COM>
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Is there a way to have an icon in the Sys Manager that will call
up the Database with a particular database?

Ellen

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:43:53 GMT
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              "d.hertrich" <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Longden and Avi,

Thanks for the tip! Works great!

GTX
daniel.

> - On the icon edit screen (F3 from AppMgr), put the path/name of the app
> executable in "Path"
> - Then go to "Icon" and pick the app icon (which should be in the same directory
> as the app executable)
> - After the icon is set, then go back to "Path" and pre-pend the MaxDOS
> string...the icon should stay unchanged when you do this.
>
> This tip was from Avi.....way back.
>
> - Longden
>
> Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> on 02/23/99 10:03:01 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
> Subject:  MaxDOS & icons?
>
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to assign different icons to programs launched by SysMgr
> with maxdos?
>
> (for example I want to run WWW/LX and POST/LX from SysMgr with maxdos.
> But I haven't found out how to assign the original WWW/LX- and POST/LX
> icons).
>
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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:48:42 -0000, Brown, William wrote:

>BTW how do we get a Euro symbol on the LX ?  i.e. how do we modify or =
add
>codepages.

Do we really need one? I just spell it out:

Euro <spit>

;)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:57:11 EST
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Just wanted to give credit where it is due.  I ordered a Kingston product
(64Meg of memory for my OB800CT which supports my primary computer -- the
200LX, of course) from an internet supplier.  When it arrived, it did not
work.

I called Kingston's support 800 number.  The technician was familiar with the
product!  After a few questions he concurred that the product was at fault, &
transferred by to a nice Customer Service lady.

They FedEx'd it to me, and it arrived about 12 hrs. after the call!  I did
have to give them a credit card # which they will charge only if I don't send
the defective part back in a week.  If I had wanted to wait for them to
receive my defective part, they would not have wanted the card #.

I was really impressed, and thought I should share.  I would happily buy their
products again.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:41:25 -0500
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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For you X-Finder fans, Toshiki has translated the manual into English and has
gotten permission for us to post the file on SUPER. Anyone have a really good
screen cap they can send my way?
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:48:03 -0800
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              John Watson <jwatson@INTERLOG.COM>
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I know a backlit screen is not normally available for
the 200lx, I'm wondering if anyone has seen one
from a manufacturer that could replace the 200lx
screen?.

I'm also wondering if those guys who refurbish
200LX's could put in a color screen?.
A backlit, color 200lx would be a hit in my books

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Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:46:43 -0700
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Hello all;

Due to some inquiries that I have received about running Personal
Ancestral File 3.0 on the HP 200lx palmtop, I am sending this message to
all interested parties on the HPLX Mailing list (ie: If you're not
interested, then stop here. <g>)

BTW: If anyone would like to get the previous version of PAF, ver. 2.2,
I can get it for you -- I'll have to check on the price.  Version 3.0 is
available at www.deseretbook.com for about $20 US.  An extremely
reasonable price for such useful program, if you're a geneologist!

1.  System Requirements:  The PAF 3.0m packaging states that the program
requires a 286 processor.  However, I am running it on the palmtop with
its 80186 processor.  Chances are that the processor requirement is
simply an issue of speed.  On my doublespeed 200lx it's not too bad.  It
also requires 2.5 MB disk space and 640K RAM.

2.  Installation:  The installation program sets an environment variable
in AUTOEXEC.BAT so that PAF can find its configuration files more
easily; it's: SET PAFCONF=d:\pafdir.  Where "d:\pafdir" is the drive and
directory where PAF is installed.  I don't know whethere or not this is
absolutely essential, but better safe than sorry.  I installed PAF on my
desktop computer (a Pentium, 133 MHz) and then downloaded it to my
palmtop and configured it on both at the same time, so I could read, on
the desktop screen, the things that where hard to see on the palmtop
screen.  (Which is a little bit of a violation of the license agreement,
since it says "only one computer ... at a time", but very helpful for
configuration.)  Which brings us to:

3. Configuration:  When you first enter PAF, it shows an introductory
splash screen with version and copyright information.  This will be a
little hard to see on the palmtop, but just press enter.  You are then
brought to a list of data files to open.  This screen is also a little
hard to see, but it's easier to see the filename that is highlighted.
The bad news is: these two screens will always be this way, and there
doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it.  The good news is that
the rest can be configured as you like it.  Once you've chosen a file (I
recommend setting up a data file on the desktop before you download),
you can press F6 and then Y to get the Utility Menu.  Press enter on
"Change Program and Printer Preferences", which, fortunately, is the
first menu item.  Press the down arrow 14 times to select Black and
White under Color Options, then press Enter to select it and F1 to
continue and F1 again to save.  After this, you can go back in to the
Utility Menu and change other options, since now they're much easier to
see.  The odd thing is that these settings seem to be saved in the data
file, because you have to set these options again for each file -- which
is a good reason to have as few data files as possible.  But, the larger
the data file, the slower it will be.  That's the tradeoff.

4.  Religious Affiliation (not that it matters here, but we're
curious):  I and some of the other LDS (ie: "Mormon") people on the list
have been wanting to get together with other LDS 200lx users. I would
also be interested to know the religious affiliations of non-LDS people
who are using PAF. So please make yourself known by joining the
newsgroup hp200.mormon at news.hplx.net or by sending an e-mail message
to myself or to David Sargeant (david@hplx.net).  Also, you will need a
username and password to get on the newsgroup, which David can do for
you.  (Thanks, Dave. I hope you don't mind the free advertising! <g>)

Thanks. Good luck and have fun with your family history.

Regards,
Richard A. Smith

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:36:43 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Found this on aus.ads.forsale
I paid A$450 for a 6Mb x2 speed unit
it now has 20Mb CF (not compressed)
modem card, thesaurus card, case, charger
manuals, parallel - serial printer lead,
so I'm currently sellling it for A$2,500
<grin - not really folks>
I think he is being a little unrealistic, what
are US prices like.

Best regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

>>For sale: PALMTOP HP 200 LX 2Mg,
>>+ rechargeable batteries,
>>+ power supply,
>>+computer link (cable+software DOS/Windows),
>>+ 10MG flash card (20 MB Compressed),
>>+ leather case,
>>+ All doc ...
>>asking $1100 for this unit in perfect condition.
>>see it @ http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/palmtops.html
>>Please DEL "remove" in my address
>>remove.nettoyage@hotmail.com

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 03:03:25 -0500
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Subject:      NJStar Chinese Word Processor

     Hi Max,

     The Chinese word processor works like a dream. Many thanks for making
     it possible. The palmtop may be a remarkable machine, but it is the
     software and the "peopleware" that truly makes it work!


     Thanks and regards.

     Jimmy.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:28:32 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Anyone know where to buy a Simple Tech 33.6 SJ modem card ?
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Well, after giving up on finding a 56K card that will work in the HP,
I've decided to settle for a 33.6K Simple Jack (the one that everyone
seems to have).

Does anyone know where to find one ?

İDon't reply "ComputAbility", as their web site lies.¨

--
-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:11:00 +1100
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From:         David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: German on English palmtop.
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22h02m25s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:50:08 +0000 (GMT), Brown, William <wdlb5359@GLAXOWE=
LLCOME.CO.UK> wrote:

> You mean 'on a US palmtop' - my English (British) plamtop has the =
overlay
> with the special characters printed on it already in purple (Fn-).
>
>
Well, I really meant an 'Australian Palmtop' if there is such a thing.
Probably a US palmtop sold in Australia.  I don't think they would make
a special one for us Ausies. :-)

David Eggins

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:15:54 PST
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              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Hey guy

would like explicit details on obtaining and using it.
if yu kan spare a minute for a note.
Pls adress to hobchi@yahoo.com
TIA.

yor pal al.................

The Chinese word processor works like a dream. Many thanks for making
it possible. The palmtop may be a remarkable machine, but it is the
software and the "peopleware" that truly makes it work!
Thanks and regards.
Jimmy.


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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:53:38 -0500
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              Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET>
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Is it possible and how can you add devices from config.sys in expanded
memory using tremm?  Do I need a devicehigh command imported from a full
version of DOS?  What about loadhigh from autoexec or DOS prompt?
Thanks.
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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:55:38 -0500
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              Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET>
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Can I remove mute the volume from command prompt, or is there a way to
make HDM silent as a default without using a keyboard stuffer of some
type?
Thanks.
J. Sanders

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:35:39 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Good to see the warm welcome the UK is giving the Euro!
(FWIW, I'm English and I think the Euro is a good idea and
will be a success... but I'm an idealist, not an
economist!).

Perhaps an easier way to get the Euro symbol would be to use
a font editor to replace a symbol that's currently either
not in use, or used infrequently. Is this possible /
feasible?

 -Mike

> >BTW how do we get a Euro symbol on the LX ?  i.e. how do we modify or
> add
> >codepages.
>
> Do we really need one? I just spell it out:
>
> Euro <spit>

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 05:44:56 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Perhaps an easier way to get the Euro symbol would be to use a font
> editor to replace a symbol that's currently either not in use, or used
> infrequently. Is this possible / feasible?

The guy who does the Andrew fonts was asking on HPHAND which symbol he
should replace with the Euro symbol, so I'd say the latest version of the
ANDREW.COM font will probably have it.  Of course, I have no idea where to
GET the latest version...

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:18:41 -0000
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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I have printed yesterday the European Commission recommendation on the
placement of the Euro on all sorts of keyboards etc.  There is a lot of info
on the EC web sites about this - so if you speak to the designer of the
ANDREW fonts point him that way. It has all the stuff about what font
position it should go, what keys to hit to make it appear etc.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:28:03 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:18:34 -0500 (EST)

01h16m26s ago ...
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Jim Sanders wrote:

> Can I remove mute the volume from command prompt, or is there a way to
> make HDM silent as a default without using a keyboard stuffer of some
> type?

Is this Harry Konstas' HDM?  I've been using it (various versions) for
years, and it only beeps when adding/editing an app...  There IS a menu
selection in HDM to set the volume (off, low, medium, or high).  Try:
   İMENU¨-System-Volume
That will set the volume for everything - not just HDM, though.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 06:36:52 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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When you speak of loading devices from config.sys using devicehigh, I think
you're referring to the loading of programs into high memory (region from 640k -
1mb) and not expanded memory.

On the LX, I believe that region (high memory) has already been reserved by the
system for various LX related items, and the loadhigh or devicehigh commands
will simply not find the region available.

TREMM only acts as the driver for expanded memory services, but I think that
area (expanded memory) is used for data and not to load or execute programs (as
the high-memory region would do). Expanded memory acts as a swap region for many
programs (executing in low memory) to allow them to run in less RAM  by letting
them swap non-executing parts of the program (buffers and arrays) to the
expanded memory region until they're needed.

But if you prove me wrong, let us know...loading high would definitely be
useful.

- Longden





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Subject:  Memory




Is it possible and how can you add devices from config.sys in expanded
memory using tremm?  Do I need a devicehigh command imported from a full
version of DOS?  What about loadhigh from autoexec or DOS prompt?

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:48:15 -0600
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Some have suggested the glue used for PVC pipe.

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:56:51 -0700, Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM> =
wrote:

> AIEEEE!
>
> I've had the beginnings of the crack for some time now.  I noticed
>

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:53:13 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Subject:      Re: off topic - drivers for a compaq aero
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There is a mailing list for the Compaq Aeros.  You can get information on it
by following the directions below:

  To send something to the members of the list, mail it
    to "AERO@AISB.ORG".

    To subscribe to the list, unsubscribe from the list, or to
    change your address, send a request to MAJORDOMO@AISB.ORG.
    This is handled by a Majordomo list server.  A message with
    just the word "HELP" in its body will provide instructions on
    how to edit your subscription information.

You will also find a very useful web page for Aeros at:

http://www.reed.edu/~pwilk/aero_stuff.html

>From:  Tom Nemeth İSMTP:tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:51 PM
>Subject:       off topic - drivers for a compaq aero
>
>Hi All,
>As you can see from my recent  postings, my computer life has pretty well
>seized up lately at least vis a vis my HP support system.  Before acquiring
>a new desktop, I backed up with a Compaq Aero 486/25mhx sub-notebook which
>actually does just abouty everything I want it to except that it's in many
>pieces but still function.  I recall that there used to a few folks who
>used this nifty machine hence my quest here.
>
>Nonetheless, this did not stop me from messing up the external drive
>somehow and now it isn't recognized by the Compaq.  Can someone direct me
>to a source of drivers (Compaq webpage does not have anything useful)?
>All advice/suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 06:56:20 -0800
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              Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Backlit screen for 200LX?
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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, John Watson wrote:

> I know a backlit screen is not normally available for
> the 200lx, I'm wondering if anyone has seen one
> from a manufacturer that could replace the 200lx
> screen?.

Unfortunately, the 200LX screen is a custom .. Hitachi, i think .. that
can't be purchased by mortals.  They refuse to sell the screens to anyone
besides HP.  So.. there aren't any replacements.  However, it may be that
the 200LX screen can be modified and a backlight put in.  They have done
this before, in Japan, but it required an external inverter and battery
pack.

> I'm also wondering if those guys who refurbish
> 200LX's could put in a color screen?.
> A backlit, color 200lx would be a hit in my books

Again, there is no simple way to do that.  The 200LX processor only
"broadcasts" in black and white - the display controller just wouldn't
work with a color screen.

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:19:09 -0500
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Check out the solution of one user from last year at:

http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/hpcrack.htm

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Chris,

 > I respect your right to add/remove whatever features you want
 > from your products.  But you seem to imply that the added
 > commands I listed are somehow beyond the capabilities of the
  ...
 > I guess I'm saying that I accept without reservation your
 > conclusion (no new commands), but reject your reasoning.

Sorry, you dislike the decisions we make about where and
how to spend resources. You may wish to review the ftp
protocol, and the complexity of implementing it in DOS. We
dismiss nothing, I assure you there is much more thought
and talent that went into any and all of the products _AND_
the decisions and choices than you know, or understand.

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Rod,

I just bought my SimpleTech 33.6 Communicator from CDW a few weeks ago.
They are not being manufactured any more, so when they are gone, that's
it!

I don't have the phone number for CDW here at work, but a search on the
web will find it!!!

Good luck!

Mike...

> Well, after giving up on finding a 56K card that will work in the HP,
> I've decided to settle for a 33.6K Simple Jack (the one that everyone
> seems to have).
>
> Does anyone know where to find one ?
>
> İDon't reply "ComputAbility", as their web site lies.¨
>
> --
> -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
> -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
> -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Is there a way to password-lock the 200LX while it is still on?  I would
like to leave my computer, and have it ON and still password protected.
(Like LOCK WORKSTATION on a windows desktop machine).  My reason is that
whenever I turn off my computer, WWW/LX refuses to connect to my POP3
server (using ethernet connection) without my re-booting.  This is an
annoyance, to say the least.  Apparently turning the computer off and
back on disturbs something, maybe the packet or other drivers.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:07:16 -0800
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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Is there a way to password-lock the 200LX while it is still on?  I
> would like to leave my computer, and have it ON and still password
> protected. (Like LOCK WORKSTATION on a windows desktop machine).  My
> reason is that whenever I turn off my computer, WWW/LX refuses to
> connect to my POP3 server (using ethernet connection) without my
> re-booting.  This is an annoyance, to say the least.  Apparently
> turning the computer off and back on disturbs something, maybe the
> packet or other drivers.

I believe what it does is reset the card, so it's not in I/O mode anymore,
and then the packet driver can't work anymore.  You could probably get it
to work again by unloading the packet driver, turning the unit off again,
turning it back on, and then re-running OP2216 and PD2212, but... that's
probably too much trouble.

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Hi all,
        i am developing an application on C language. I am searching
information about the TCP/IP protocol on C language (libraries) in
order to include them in my application.

Can anyone help me ??

Thanks

Frank

____________________________________________

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They're backordered at CDW:

http://www.cdw.com/product/default.asp?EDC=76429&source=esp

- Longden





Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET> on 02/25/99 07:52:46 AM

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Rod,

I just bought my SimpleTech 33.6 Communicator from CDW a few weeks ago.
They are not being manufactured any more, so when they are gone, that's
it!

I don't have the phone number for CDW here at work, but a search on the
web will find it!!!

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:39:18 -0500
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Hey Dave:

03h18m50s ago ...
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, David Eggins wrote:

> 22h02m25s ago ...
>
> Well, I really meant an 'Australian Palmtop' if there is such a
> thing...

     I think you will find that on the 'Australian Palmtop', the screen
is on the bottom & the keys are on the top...(apologies for "North
American humor")

Cheers,


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Took me a few minutes (after worrying about the Win95-only documentation)
but after searching the EXP Tech Support information pages I figured out
that loading the cellular driver into the modem is easy, but gonna be kinda
annoying.

Basically, the driver is a 5K text file, you go into a terminal, type
at¬c2, it says "DOWNLOAD INITIATED..." and you upload this text file to the
modem, afterwords (until powerdown) it always talks to the cellphone when
you dial out.

I was hoping it was a flash kind of deal, where you did it once and it was
saved, and some command was given to select cellphone usage.  But it
wouldn't appear to be the case.  Anyone have any ideas on how to make this
process simple?  A script in Datacomm would work..  Maybe other terminal
programs.  Any small programs you know that I could just fire off and it
upload this file without any intervention, such as just before loading
WWW/LX?

Maybe the program mentioned on their webpage for DOS does this, but it's
not included on my disk.  Anyone possibly have this software?  Hopefully
EXP will respond to my query soon and maybe offer me such a program.  :)

Otherwise, seems to work!

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:18:37 -0000
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              "Neil.Somers" <neil.somers@TESCO.NET>
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From:         "Neil.Somers" <neil.somers@TESCO.NET>
Subject:      FS: 1Mb200LX 4Mb Card and...

For Sale

vanilla 1mb 200lx
4mb sandisk card
serial cable and modem cable
leather pouch
buddy
manual
perfect condition, no cracks, loose hinges or or clips

No reasonable offer refused.

Neil Somers
Cambridge, England

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:32:51 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I don't even think you can get a high memory manager (himem, for
instance) to even "find" the memory above 640k.  The "2meg" in a 2 meg
palmtop is not 2 meg of xms memory, it's 640k of "DOS" memory and the
rest is hardware-wired as a disk device.  Yes, I know you can "allocate"
more or less of the total memory to DOS, but you can't allocate more
than 640k.

Phil

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I found the way to do this.  I put my palmtop in my desk drawer and lock
the drawer.  I had to provide an Ethernet cable and power strip (routed
through the back of the desk) to get this to work.

The "disturbance" you are experiencing is part of the network card's
"normal" behavior.  After power is removed, you must re-start the card
enabler and re-run the packet driver.  This won't work due to the fact
that the enabler will report the existence of it's self already in
memory and not "re-bind" to the card.  I have had some luck
un-installing some drivers and re-installing them.  A big headache.
Stick with a re-boot.

Phil
>
>Is there a way to password-lock the 200LX while it is still on?  I would
>like to leave my computer, and have it ON and still password protected.
>(Like LOCK WORKSTATION on a windows desktop machine).  My reason is that
>whenever I turn off my computer, WWW/LX refuses to connect to my POP3
>server (using ethernet connection) without my re-booting.  This is an
>annoyance, to say the least.  Apparently turning the computer off and
>back on disturbs something, maybe the packet or other drivers.
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:58:00 -0500
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              CavalierLW@NSWCCD.NAVY.MIL
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Warning:  no actual HP LX content!  But since it appears that a number of
subscribers also own/use HP OmniBook 800's, which run HP LX PIM programs, I
thought this reply meets the bare minimum relevance threshold.  Focus:
customer service from retailer CDW and OB800 memory upgrade issue.

I had purchased a 16Mb memory upgrade for the OB800 from CDW a while ago,
and I chose the Visiontek brand because it was significantly cheaper than HP
or even Kingston and they had it ready to ship next day.  After installing
it, the OmniBook would lockup ar random rather frequently such that I had to
perform a reset to get it back.  Not very good for holding onto your data
and/or document changes.   I exchanged the memory upgrade for another of the
same thing, and this time the computer would not even boot up with it
installed.  I noticed that the way the little card was designed, it was
quite possible that the leads on one or more memory chips were lightly
touching the metallic coating on the inside of of the cover of the memory
upgrade compartment.  I insterted a thin piece of plastic to prevent this,
and sure enough the computer booted up and ran fine.  But I did not consider
this an acceptable solution, especially since I get a nasty surprise if the
plastic insert slipped.  So I called CDW and explained that I thought the
design of this brand of the memory upgrade was flawed, and they were very
good about the matter.  They replaced it with the HP model, and a 32 Mb one
at that, since it was more readily available.

So I would caution anyone against the Visiontek memory upgrade for the
OB800, unless they have redesigned it.  I later installed a Kingston 32 Mb
upgrade in another OB800, and that was trouble free.  Now the prices are so
low that the differences between brands, if any, are not worth the risk.
And finally, I obviously would recommend dealing with CDW.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynn M. Cavendish İSMTP:Cavendishl@AOL.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 6:57 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Kingston Customer Service
>
> Just wanted to give credit where it is due.  I ordered a Kingston product
> (64Meg of memory for my OB800CT which supports my primary computer -- the
> 200LX, of course) from an internet supplier.  When it arrived, it did not
> work.
>
> I called Kingston's support 800 number.  The technician was familiar with
> the
> product!  After a few questions he concurred that the product was at
> fault, &
> transferred by to a nice Customer Service lady.
>
> They FedEx'd it to me, and it arrived about 12 hrs. after the call!  I did
> have to give them a credit card # which they will charge only if I don't
> send
> the defective part back in a week.  If I had wanted to wait for them to
> receive my defective part, they would not have wanted the card #.
>
> I was really impressed, and thought I should share.  I would happily buy
> their
> products again.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish
>
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Hi there all!

Well, latest brainwave sweeping over LX-land... HP has an ink jet, the HP
340 CBi. Portable etc. With an IrDA adapter that is plugged into the
parallell port. No batteries or psu, it mustprobably draws power from the
printer. HP part number is C3277A, costs about USD 59,- in Oslo... But is a
bit cheaper than many other IrDA adapters. This one is very compact too. It
seems to be basically a IrDA to Centronics adapter...

Has anybody tried the 340 printer? Tried the adapter on any other printer?
Did it work? :-)

http://www.pandi.hp.com/pandi-db/dds_data_sheet.show?p_model_no=C2671A&p_mod
el=DeskJet340CBi

It can be seen attached to the right side of the printer. Fits in the palm
of one's hand...

br

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Also, I came across on the HP site that ESI Jeteye drivers follow with the
adapter. I have seen Jeteye drivers on SUPER, so it might work...

br

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:43:04 +0100
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You cannot make a loadhigh or a devicehigh on the pc xt!
It is not possible with this standard.
BUT there was a little program called QRAM from
Quarterdeck. It could do the loadhigh and devicehigh even
on xt machines with EMS. Unfortunately the EMM-drivers
I found on Super never worked with my machines Compact
flash card. If it would, I could PERHAPS use QRAM to
loadhigh.

-goe-


-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 1999 16:21
Subject: Re: Memory


>When you speak of loading devices from config.sys using devicehigh, I think
>you're referring to the loading of programs into high memory (region from
640k -
>1mb) and not expanded memory.
>
>On the LX, I believe that region (high memory) has already been reserved by
the
>system for various LX related items, and the loadhigh or devicehigh
commands
>will simply not find the region available.
>
>TREMM only acts as the driver for expanded memory services, but I think
that
>area (expanded memory) is used for data and not to load or execute programs
(as
>the high-memory region would do). Expanded memory acts as a swap region for
many
>programs (executing in low memory) to allow them to run in less RAM  by
letting
>them swap non-executing parts of the program (buffers and arrays) to the
>expanded memory region until they're needed.
>
>But if you prove me wrong, let us know...loading high would definitely be
>useful.
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET> on 02/25/99 04:53:38 AM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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>
>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
>Subject:  Memory
>
>
>
>
>Is it possible and how can you add devices from config.sys in expanded
>memory using tremm?  Do I need a devicehigh command imported from a full
>version of DOS?  What about loadhigh from autoexec or DOS prompt?
>
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<snip>
Perhaps an easier way to get the Euro symbol would be to use
a font editor to replace a symbol that's currently either
not in use, or used infrequently.
</snip>

For the WordPerfect-Users: Because you already have the best
word processor out there, you can create the Eurosymbol in
WordPerfect with the following commands:

Character Combination (Shift-F8, Others, Character Combination)

Then use the keys "(" and "=" without "", and it will create an Eurolike
character. You will see it only on paper or print preview.

Of course, this tip for the Euro has to come from Switzerland ...

-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:40:10 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Backlit screen for 200LX?
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>it may be that
>the 200LX screen can be modified and a backlight put in.

After my 700lx screen diet, I opened the whole thing and could
not find any possibility to place a backlight.

>> I'm also wondering if those guys who refurbish
>> 200LX's could put in a color screen?.
>> A backlit, color 200lx would be a hit in my books

The screen has no 'plug-in-connection' to the palmtop-cable,
but is 'laied' on the contacts from the cable. So any screen with
the same contacts could be used.


I will place the taken pictures soon on the web. Of course, on
hplx.net are some pictures of a OmniGo 700lx, but I took more
and closer pictures.
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff - for sale
Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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hi Liam,
I have a 200LX 5Mg,
where did you found your 2x?
in Autralia or US.
regards

> I paid A$450 for a 6Mb x2 speed unit


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:05:08 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone know where to buy a Simple Tech 33.6 SJ modem card ?
In-Reply-To:  Longden Loo's message of "Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:25:54 -0800"
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Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> writes:
> They're backordered at CDW:
>
> http://www.cdw.com/product/default.asp?EDC=76429&source=esp

It's important to note that this is not the SimpleJack version.

David found one for me at pcsave.com - and talked to a real live
person to check the stock.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:06:12 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: TCP/IP libraries
Comments: To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
In-Reply-To:  "fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es"'s message of "Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:42:47
              +0000"
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"fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es" <fcampoy@toro.gbt.tfo.upm.es> writes:
>         i am developing an application on C language. I am searching
> information about the TCP/IP protocol on C language (libraries) in
> order to include them in my application.

If it's a HPLX application, then you may want to look at LXTCP:

        http://lxtcp.hplx.net

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:03:32 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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I use Pocker Launcher from the super site.  Works
nicely.

Seim, Ellen M wrote:
>
> Is there a way to have an icon in the Sys Manager that will call
> up the Database with a particular database?
>
> Ellen
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:18:08 +0100
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              Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
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I have the 340 printer complete with batteries and the Irda adapter. =
Works like a chasrm. I have also used the adapter on some newer lasers =
and it works OK.


>Hi there all!
>
>Well, latest brainwave sweeping over LX-land... HP has an ink jet, the =
HP
>340 CBi. Portable etc. With an IrDA adapter that is plugged into the
>parallell port. No batteries or psu, it mustprobably draws power from =
the
>printer. HP part number is C3277A, costs about USD 59,- in Oslo... But =
is a
>bit cheaper than many other IrDA adapters. This one is very compact =
too. It
>seems to be basically a IrDA to Centronics adapter...
>
>Has anybody tried the 340 printer? Tried the adapter on any other =
printer?
>Did it work? :-)
>
>*********************************************
*Ebbe Horneman           Tlf:94368467*
*PB 2055                           :61288975*
*2600 Lillehammer       FAX:61269593*
*Norway                                              *
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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:43:17 -0800
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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
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From:         "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
Subject:      Re: IrDA link!
Comments: To: Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
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what ir drivers did you use on the palmtop?  irda?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ebbe Horneman İmailto:ebbeh@ONLINE.NO¨
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:18 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: SV: IrDA link!
>
>
> I have the 340 printer complete with batteries and the Irda
> adapter. Works like a chasrm. I have also used the adapter on
> some newer lasers and it works OK.
>
>
> >Hi there all!
> >
> >Well, latest brainwave sweeping over LX-land... HP has an
> ink jet, the HP
> >340 CBi. Portable etc. With an IrDA adapter that is plugged into the
> >parallell port. No batteries or psu, it mustprobably draws
> power from the
> >printer. HP part number is C3277A, costs about USD 59,- in
> Oslo... But is a
> >bit cheaper than many other IrDA adapters. This one is very
> compact too. It
> >seems to be basically a IrDA to Centronics adapter...
> >
> >Has anybody tried the 340 printer? Tried the adapter on any
> other printer?
> >Did it work? :-)
> >
> >*********************************************
> *Ebbe Horneman           Tlf:94368467*
> *PB 2055                           :61288975*
> *2600 Lillehammer       FAX:61269593*
> *Norway                                              *
> *ebbeh@online.no    calsign:LC2RAT*
> *ehornema@maihaugen.museum.no  *
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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:01:22 -0500
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              Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
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From:         Bob Newins <bnewins@GTE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Anyone know where to buy a Simple Tech 33.6 SJ modem card ?
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Ron,

I use the Apex Data 33.6 in both my 200LX and my 800CT.  It draws only
about 135ma.  Don't remember where I got it, but it was PC Mall or
MicroWarehouse??  One of the mail order places.  I think Mobil Planet in
CA carries them in stock.       =Bob=

Rod Whitby wrote:

> Well, after giving up on finding a 56K card that will work in the HP,
> I've decided to settle for a 33.6K Simple Jack (the one that everyone
> seems to have).
>
> Does anyone know where to find one ?
>
> İDon't reply "ComputAbility", as their web site lies.¨
>
> --
> -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
> -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
> -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:30:13 -0600
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              "Charles E. Sutherland" <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>
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Comments: To: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Dear Al-
A private note not to the general HPLX list.
I have been getting two copies of every list message to my address.  Could
you see if you can elliminate one of those messages.
Thanks
Chuck Sutherland

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:18:13 -0500
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              Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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After some questions posed by listees, I may not have a corrupted telepho=
ne
database.  My problem stems from the fact that I cannot open the db's.   =
I
inferred that this was due to corrupted db's but perhaps this is not
necessasrily true.  =


Any suggestions on this particular problem?  As always, any advice is
greatly appreciated.

Tom
Muscat, Oman

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:25:57 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I'm not sure how a corrupted database differs significantly from one that
doesn't open.

Have you tried copying the file and opening the copy using the Phone app or
DBView (if you have it).

Other viewers to try might include CPACK and the HP PIMs.

- Longden





Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM> on 02/25/99 09:18:13 PM

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Subject:  can't open telephone  db




After some questions posed by listees, I may not have a corrupted telephone
database.  My problem stems from the fact that I cannot open the db's.   I
inferred that this was due to corrupted db's but perhaps this is not
necessasrily true.

Any suggestions on this particular problem?  As always, any advice is
greatly appreciated.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:37:30 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
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I came across something interesting that I haven't seen discussed here
before. Sorry if I missed it and it's old news.

I have no connection with the company, don't know anything about them.

Mike Kopplin
kopplin@primenet.com

============================

http://goessex.com/store/Laptop_Notebook_IO_Devices_PCMCIA_Type_Adapters.h
tml

Palmtop Adaptor - Allows Palmtops to use PCMCIA Type III hard drives
$107.23

The PalmTop Adaptor is a dual purpose adaptor for PCMCIA compliant Type I
and Type II card slots. It allows PalmTop and notebook/laptop computers to
use devices which require more power, such as PCMCIA disk drives, and it
adapts any PCMCIA Type I or Type II slot to handle Type III (or thicker)
PC cards. Plugging the PalmTop Adaptor into a Hewlett Packard PalmTop
LX-100 or LX-200 adapts the PalmTop for use with PCMCIA disk drives, ideal
for mass storage and easy data backup capability. Software is provided to
support the use of disk drives with HP LX-100/200 PalmTops; however, to
initially load the software onto a HP PalmTop, a computer with a 1.44 MB
floppy drive and a serial port with a serial cable are required.
Internal/external power to the PCMCIA device is switch-selectable.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:26:43 -0800
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              Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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Ebbe Horneman wrote:
>  the Irda adapter. Works like a chasrm. I have also used the adapter on some newer lasers and it works OK.
>

Does it work with other printers such as Epson
Injets?
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HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
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PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:46:37 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Ian Butler wrote:

>>I have vague recollection of running the Envision Publisher on my
palmtop.
It was a long time ago, but I think it worked fine. =


Envision is now available on the SUPER site.  It isn't TeX but it is more=

WYSIWYG oriented. I'd like to know if anyone else has tried it and what
they thought of it. =


.ed.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:43:01 +0000
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              slim1005 <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: can't open telephone  db
Comments: To: Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I also have a similar intermittent problem. after I had HP replace the
keyboard I have these episodes where the files appear corrupted and I can
not open any application. A simple re-boot doe not solve the problem
whereas a complete reset does(effectively wiping out all the data). The
only solution I have now is to take a daily back-up onto the PCMCIA card
and on the PC using Transfile utility.

Haven't yet tried automating the daily batch process to take the back-up.
If someone has a ready solution, I will be grateful.

best regards


At 12:18 AM 2/26/99 Friday -0500, Tom Nemeth wrote:
>After some questions posed by listees, I may not have a corrupted telephone
>database.  My problem stems from the fact that I cannot open the db's.   I
>inferred that this was due to corrupted db's but perhaps this is not
>necessasrily true.
>
>Any suggestions on this particular problem?  As always, any advice is
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Tom
>Muscat, Oman
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:00:01 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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From:         Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      HP200LX 1MB for sale (DEAD DISPLAY)
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I have an HP200LX 1MB model for sale, preferably (but not required) in Europe.

The display is non-functional, but all the rest is perfect (tested with a
good display).

All offers will be considered.

Best regards. Nacho.


----------------------------------
Ignacio Garcia Perez
Departamento I+D, GND S.A.
Parque Tecnologico de Valencia
Calle A3, Paterna (Valencia) 46980
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:43:58 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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Just a general note. A friend gave my a CD called Technotools. This CD is
loaded with DOS/Unix tools and Utilities.

covers: C/C++, dBase; Assembly, AI, Pascal, ADA, Fortran, Cobol, APL, Forth,
Fifth, AWK, GAWK, MAWK and many other tools


Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:53:28 -0600
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              kirther@IX.NETCOM.COM
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From:         Victor Roberts <kirther@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Modem problem (plus palmtop horror story)
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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> > I used the work PCMCIA modem, which really draws too much current. I
> > sat the HP on a ice pack to keep it cool, and had it plugged in to =
the
> > adaptor, because it shuts down without it.
>
> I am not sure but think that having to take those measures means that
> your pcmcia modem may be too demanding.

Fred,

This sounds like the understatement of the year!

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:54:41 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Subject:      EVP (Was Re: Word Processing)
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Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:25:26 -0500 (EST)

07h37m36s ago ...
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> Envision is now available on the SUPER site.  It isn't TeX but it is =
more
> WYSIWYG oriented. I'd like to know if anyone else has tried it and what
> they thought of it.

I have the (I think) latest DOS version on my 2x8MB 200LX.  This is the
full registered version that comes with 35 fonts plus a utility to
convert TrueType fonts to the .ff1 format it uses.  The full
installation takes several megs - I think about 5 or 6...  EVP does a
great job of "palmtop publishing" of posters, flyers, signs, and brochures=
.
Speed isn't fast enough on the palmtop for fast touch-typing, but
neither am I  8-)

You can use it with either a mouse (or trackball or touchpad), or with
the built-in keyboard "mouse".

EVP has drivers for a bunch of different printers, plus support for
printing to .pcx files (150 dpi or 300 dpi).

All the fonts are scaleable from 4 points (too small for me to read) up
to 144 pts (2 inches high).  Some of the fonts don't look so good in
the tiny sizes.  At 12 pts and above they all look pretty good.  All
fonts can be used as normal, bold, italic, and bold italic.  Of course
not all look right with the variations.

Print quality on my Canon BJ10SX is excellent at 360x360 dpi, very good
at 360x180, good at 180x180, and abominable at 60x60 I use the printer
in Epson mode, and those are the choices.  Printing graphics thru the
serial port is s...l...o...w (not exactly a surprise at 9600 baud).  I
don't have a parallel port card, but print speed should be quite
decent.  Print speed is also a lot better if you have EMS memory.

EVP is a very good WYSIWYG DTP program, but not fast enough to do word
processing or text editing.  Of course, you can prepare the text on VDE
or your favorite editor, and import into EVP.

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:48:28 -1000
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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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I'm using WWW/LX with POST/LX Ver 2.0a and PE 2.1.  I have it
installed on my HP200LX, my laptop which is a 486 machine, and on my
desktop which is a 266 MHz Pent. II.  When traveling I use the HP and
the laptop.

My problem with the laptop is that PE won't keep up with the rate that
I type (and that's pretty slow since I'm a hunt and pecker).
Characters come in in some random order like the word "this" might be
"iihst" or "iiht".  PE works fine on the HP and on the desktop.  What
is the problem and what can I do to fix it.

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:51:44 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Modem problem (plus palmtop horror story)
In-Reply-To:  <199902261453.IAA02213@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> from "Victor
              Roberts" at Feb 26, 99 08:53:28 am
Content-Type: text

> > > I used the work PCMCIA modem, which really draws too much current. I
> > > sat the HP on a ice pack to keep it cool, and had it plugged in to the
> > > adaptor, because it shuts down without it.
> >
> > I am not sure but think that having to take those measures means that
> > your pcmcia modem may be too demanding.

Might I suggest dry ice - you won't have to fool with the melted water
dripping all over the place.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:13:41 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Dan Sommer <dan@INQUO.NET>
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From:         Dan Sommer <dan@INQUO.NET>
Subject:      Re: IrDA link!
Comments: To: Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
In-Reply-To:  <009001be6115$1b57d0e0$0a1d4382@oemcomputer>
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What drivers are you using on the 200LX?  Can you print from DOS?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Ebbe Horneman
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 4:18 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: SV: IrDA link!
>
>
> I have the 340 printer complete with batteries and the Irda
> adapter. Works like a chasrm. I have also used the adapter on
> some newer lasers and it works OK.
>
>
> >Hi there all!
> >
> >Well, latest brainwave sweeping over LX-land... HP has an ink jet, the HP
> >340 CBi. Portable etc. With an IrDA adapter that is plugged into the
> >parallell port. No batteries or psu, it mustprobably draws power from the
> >printer. HP part number is C3277A, costs about USD 59,- in
> Oslo... But is a
> >bit cheaper than many other IrDA adapters. This one is very
> compact too. It
> >seems to be basically a IrDA to Centronics adapter...
> >
> >Has anybody tried the 340 printer? Tried the adapter on any
> other printer?
> >Did it work? :-)
> >
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:15:42 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<My problem with the laptop is that PE won't keep up with the rate that
I type (and that's pretty slow since I'm a hunt and pecker).
Characters come in in some random order like the word "this" might be
"iihst" or "iiht".  PE works fine on the HP and on the desktop.  What
is the problem and what can I do to fix it.>>

I have just been experimenting with PE and ACCIS (compuserve access
program) on my desktop. I found the problem you described when I called
PE from within ACCIS having already run PALRUN.  However, if I called PE
from a batch file using INT5F (Palrun may work), the problem went away.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:44:15 -0500
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              "Nirody, Suresh" <SNirody@CLARIAN.COM>
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Subject:      JTech 56K pocket modem
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Folks,
Someone already pointed out that this 56K JTech pocket modem (from the
1-800-batteries catalog)does not run off batteries but needs to be plugged
in. Additionally, FYI, should you order this you won't receive an adapter to
plug it in, but instead will get a passthrough that goes between the
computer and the keyboard to power the modem....
Suresh

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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:33:43 -0000
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              Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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Seim, Ellen M wrote:
>Is there a way to have an icon in the Sys Manager that will call
>up the Database with a particular database?

I have just received details of the following from the SUPER site which
sounds like it may do what you want:

Laurence Harvey

-------------------------- Message Separator -------------------------------

The following item(s) have been added to the S.U.P.E.R. Site
    They are available at http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

<snip>

OPEN (13k) added 02/24/99
Version 1.10 by Hiroyuki Sekiya (v1.10 bt Paulo Custodio)

OPEN will launch a built-in application when you specify
a data filename as the program's command line parameter.
You can use it to open a Database file with one action or
to add data files to the Application Manager. Originally
part of the software collection sold with the "HP200LX
Software Bible" co-authored by Hiroyuki Sekiya and
Hirotaka Hamada, published by Softbank, Tokyo, in April
1996 (ISBN4-89052-911-X). Now released as copyrighted
freeware. New version fixes some bugs and adds some new
features.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:21:32 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, nancyb@BEST.COM
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      thaddeus

could someone please tell me the phone number for thaddeus?

thanks

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:48:35 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: About the Palmtop Circuit program
Comments: To: Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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> This time they told me that program should cost app. 80USD
> (IMO it's ridiculously overpriced) and will be sold direct
> to overseas (US) customers, payment via credit card -
> if there are at least 12 or so interested people.
>
> They mumbled some stupid sentences about that they need time
> to produce new Palmtop Circuit software packages, etc.
> They again promised to call me back two weeks from now, when
> boss returns from abroad. I will keep you informed.
>
> I would appreciate a short e-mail from those who actually may
> consider buying Palmtop Circuit, so I know what to tell them
> when conctacting them next time.

I'm certainly interested.  If they really won't support it, and
don't want the bother of making distribution, why can't we arrange for
some interested party in the states to license it from them?  Maybe
they would drop the price if they didn't have to hassle with it...

Keep me posted...

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:48:04 +0100
Reply-To:     Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Proj-Mgmt: Pjt2.EXM Vers. 1.2 - Open File... Error
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After some testing using only one .MDB file, I wanted to start with a
real application.

But the following file operations don't work:
 With 'OpenFile...' and 'Create File...'  I get the file menu, select
a file name, hit return (or F10 - ok), the tortoise appears - and is
not willing to disappear. I have to reboot (Ctrl-Alt-Del and
sometimes Shift-Ctrl-On).
When I start Pjt2 after that, the file is loaded resp. created and
can be worked with.

I'm very surprised, because my 2times 5MB 200LX works very reliably.
I've checked for directory naming (A:\_DAT; C:\_DAT; Pjt2 home dir),
checked disks (A:, C:) - it stays the same. I don't use compression,
but Key200 - nothing special at all, I think.

Does anyone of you have (had) similar experiences? - Thanks in
advance.

 Hermann

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:05:03 -0800
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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or just send it to the SUPER site and we all can get it there for
free???

Hey, if they don't want to deal with it anymore, why shouldn't we be
able to throw it around and get some use from it???

Dan Carrington





Chris Lott wrote:
>
> > This time they told me that program should cost app. 80USD
> > (IMO it's ridiculously overpriced) and will be sold direct
> > to overseas (US) customers, payment via credit card -
> > if there are at least 12 or so interested people.
> >
> > They mumbled some stupid sentences about that they need time
> > to produce new Palmtop Circuit software packages, etc.
> > They again promised to call me back two weeks from now, when
> > boss returns from abroad. I will keep you informed.
> >
> > I would appreciate a short e-mail from those who actually may
> > consider buying Palmtop Circuit, so I know what to tell them
> > when conctacting them next time.
>
> I'm certainly interested.  If they really won't support it, and
> don't want the bother of making distribution, why can't we arrange for
> some interested party in the states to license it from them?  Maybe
> they would drop the price if they didn't have to hassle with it...
>
> Keep me posted...
>
> -Chris
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:07:24 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:48:35 -0600, Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> I'm certainly interested.  If they really won't support it, and

As am I! Is the Palmtop Circuit program supposed to be like SPICE for the
LX?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:17:33 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: thaddeus
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<<could someone please tell me the phone number for thaddeus?>>

We are:


Thaddeus Computing
Publisher
HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER
110 North Court St.
Fairfield, IA 52556
515 472 6330
fax: 515 472 1879
orders@thaddeus.com
www.thaddeus.com

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:17:22 -0500
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              Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      Euro sign, LxTel, SkyStream with 95LX, AS/400.

        Hello all,

About euro: look at IBM PC-DOS 2000 to see how they replaced
a character to fit the double-lined E character into table.
Also, there is a new CP character set included that hosts the
Euro sign natively.

IMO, computer industry should be careful about taking advices
from EC executives. Considering how bureaucrating and slow-
minded is the EC, they can ruin the whole IT industry! Probab-
ly worse than Microsoft...

I would like to welcome the success of LxTel by Stefan Peichl!
This is a new innovative use for the LX, an offensive approach
to keep the DOS palmtop alive.
Usually we talk about implementing functions on LX, that are
already available on desktops; thus working in a defensive
position under pressure from ever coming new Win* applications.

The more new fields you find for LX, where no computer was ever
used before; the higher value the work has. HPLXers always
excell in this regard, so let's see some more new ideas!
These are the kind of features that really amaze others and
make them buy a unit themselves in the luckiest case.

I found an old IBM brochure dealing with enhanced connectivity
of AS/400 Advanced Series. There was a photo in it showing a
Newton, a tablet version of Thinkpad710 and a HP95LX 1MB unit.
The 95LX was docked to something called SKYSTREAM, looked like
a sidecart; similar in shape to Atari Portfolio port add-ons.
I guess it was a kind of wireless service, but in PCMCIA TypeI?

                    Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

PS: Is here anyone on the list, who operates or manages AS/400
    machines? I'd have a question concerning TCP/IP software.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:40:26 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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From:         Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
Subject:      Phone.pdb won't sort
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Suddenly, my phone.pdb file won't sort. (I have a HP100LX 1 MEG if that
makes any difference.)

I have about 650 entries in my file. It is a standard file, unmodified.

The first 620 or so are all in alphabetical order. The rest are out of
order at the end of the file. I have tried using the Sort command (F7) but
that doesn't change anything. The wrongly sorted entries at the end are not
in any particular order.

I have also tried opening some of the wrongly placed entries, and closing
them, thinking they might be relocated, but that hasn't worked either.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:14:56 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Externally Powered PCMCIA adaptor

> I came across something interesting that I haven't seen discussed here
> before. Sorry if I missed it and it's old news.
>
> I have no connection with the company, don't know anything about them.
>
> Mike Kopplin
> kopplin@primenet.com
>
> ============================
>
> http://goessex.com/store/Laptop_Notebook_IO_Devices_PCMCIA_Type_Adapters.h
> tml
>
> Palmtop Adaptor - Allows Palmtops to use PCMCIA Type III hard drives
> $107.23
>
> The PalmTop Adaptor is a dual purpose adaptor for PCMCIA compliant Type I
> and Type II card slots. It allows PalmTop and notebook/laptop computers to
> use devices which require more power, such as PCMCIA disk drives, and it
> adapts any PCMCIA Type I or Type II slot to handle Type III (or thicker)
> PC cards. Plugging the PalmTop Adaptor into a Hewlett Packard PalmTop
> LX-100 or LX-200 adapts the PalmTop for use with PCMCIA disk drives, ideal
> for mass storage and easy data backup capability. Software is provided to
> support the use of disk drives with HP LX-100/200 PalmTops; however, to
> initially load the software onto a HP PalmTop, a computer with a 1.44 MB
> floppy drive and a serial port with a serial cable are required.
> Internal/external power to the PCMCIA device is switch-selectable.
>
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There is another company Grey somthing, that sells this same thing
butI think it was substantially cheaper. THey call it a palmtop type
adaptor if I remember correctly. I will look up their web address if
anyone needs it.

Pete




Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:23:12 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Phone.pdb won't sort
Comments: To: Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Sounds like a corrupted file.

Try creating a new phone database and merging in the old one. If it's corrupted,
the merge operation should tell you...or maybe even throw out whatever's wrong
with the old version (wishful thinking).

Other things to check are your sort options and whether you have anything screwy
with you subsets.

Then there's GARLIC (at the SUPER site), tho I've heard that the cure is
sometimes worse than the problem.. Good luck.

- Longden





Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET> on 02/26/99 12:40:26 PM

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Subject:  Phone.pdb won't sort




Suddenly, my phone.pdb file won't sort. (I have a HP100LX 1 MEG if that
makes any difference.)

I have about 650 entries in my file. It is a standard file, unmodified.

The first 620 or so are all in alphabetical order. The rest are out of
order at the end of the file. I have tried using the Sort command (F7) but
that doesn't change anything. The wrongly sorted entries at the end are not
in any particular order.

I have also tried opening some of the wrongly placed entries, and closing
them, thinking they might be relocated, but that hasn't worked either.

Does anybody have any ideas?

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:12:00 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Euro sign, LxTel, SkyStream with 95LX, AS/400.

>         Hello all,
>
> I would like to welcome the success of LxTel by Stefan Peichl!
> This is a new innovative use for the LX, an offensive approach
> to keep the DOS palmtop alive.
> Usually we talk about implementing functions on LX, that are
> already available on desktops; thus working in a defensive
> position under pressure from ever coming new Win* applications.
>

Not to belittle LXTel but I think other computers have had telnet
programs before LXTel, even ones with all LXTel's features.

> I found an old IBM brochure dealing with enhanced connectivity
> of AS/400 Advanced Series. There was a photo in it showing a
> Newton, a tablet version of Thinkpad710 and a HP95LX 1MB unit.
> The 95LX was docked to something called SKYSTREAM, looked like
> a sidecart; similar in shape to Atari Portfolio port add-ons.
> I guess it was a kind of wireless service, but in PCMCIA TypeI?
>
>                     Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
>
> PS: Is here anyone on the list, who operates or manages AS/400
>     machines? I'd have a question concerning TCP/IP software.

I think the skystream attached to the serial port, not the pcmcia
slot.

I have set up tcpip for remote access to an as400, what is your
problem I may be able to help.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:49:18 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Phone.pdb won't sort
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At 02:40 PM 2/26/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Suddenly, my phone.pdb file won't sort. (I have a HP100LX 1 MEG if that
>makes any difference.)
>


As a followup,  I realized that the problem may be related, timing wise, to
the insertion of KEYBEZ HE into my autoexec.bat as I wanted to try QTEXT.

I rem'd the line in autoexec.bat calling KEYBEZ and rebooted the computer.
Of course, the sort function in PHONE.PDB now appears to work correctly!
(It always seems that I learn to solve my problems immediately after
posting to the list.)

Does anyone know why this may be happening? It's no longer  a big concern,
as I created another bat file to start with keybez in addition to the
normal autoexec.bat, but would like to better understand how the HP works
to solve future problems.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:13:04 -0500
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              Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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From:         Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Euro sign, LxTel, SkyStream with 95LX, AS/400.
Comments: To: Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Yeah, connecting my 100lx was one of the first things I had to do when fresh
out of IBM AS/400 training. While it works, I wouldn't recommend it except
to download or upload information.

I'll try to help. I'm running an AS/400 (model 9402-400 with OS r4v2) with
TCP/IP. What's the question?

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

P.S. Speaking of AS/400's, anybody know what I could do with an old System
36? It weighs about 300 lbs, can't run any of the software my company needs,
and is collecting dust in the middle of my computer room. The Boat Anchor
idea was presented, but we're afraid it might sink the boat :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Feher Tamas <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 3:19 PM
Subject: Euro sign, LxTel, SkyStream with 95LX, AS/400.


>        Hello all,
...
>
>I found an old IBM brochure dealing with enhanced connectivity
>of AS/400 Advanced Series. There was a photo in it showing a
>Newton, a tablet version of Thinkpad710 and a HP95LX 1MB unit.
>The 95LX was docked to something called SKYSTREAM, looked like
>a sidecart; similar in shape to Atari Portfolio port add-ons.
>I guess it was a kind of wireless service, but in PCMCIA TypeI?
>
>                    Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
>
>PS: Is here anyone on the list, who operates or manages AS/400
>    machines? I'd have a question concerning TCP/IP software.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:46:36 -0800
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Not to belittle LXTel but I think other computers have had telnet
> programs before LXTel, even ones with all LXTel's features.

Except that LXTel isn't a telnet application.  It's a program to find the
least costly way to place a telephone call in Germany, depending on the
time of day, if I recall.

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Euro sign, LxTel, SkyStream with 95LX, AS/400.

> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> > Not to belittle LXTel but I think other computers have had telnet
> > programs before LXTel, even ones with all LXTel's features.
>
> Except that LXTel isn't a telnet application.  It's a program to find the
> least costly way to place a telephone call in Germany, depending on the
> time of day, if I recall.
>

Ok, my mistake. What is the name of the LX Telnet program that was
recently being discussed. It was a derivative of NSCA telnet. That is
what I was thinking of.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:51:07 -0800
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Ok, my mistake. What is the name of the LX Telnet program that was
> recently being discussed. It was a derivative of NSCA telnet. That is
> what I was thinking of.

Easy mistake... that one's LXTelnet.  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:49:39 -1000
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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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I have CPACK200 running on my laptop under Windows 95, but got a new
decktop machine that came with Windows 98. Can anyone tell me how to get
CPACK200 to run under Win 98?

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:57:19 -0800
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Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> <<could someone please tell me the phone number for thaddeus?>>
>
> We are:
>
> Thaddeus Computing
> Publisher
> HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER
> 110 North Court St.
> Fairfield, IA 52556
> 515 472 6330
> fax: 515 472 1879
> orders@thaddeus.com
> www.thaddeus.com
>
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phone: list time I USED IT Was 1-800-373-6114

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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:28:49 -0800
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              zot2u <zot2u@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hi Mike,

zot2u@earthlink.net has the device that you want.
It will work in any palmtop (except WinCE ofcourse) with only a type II
pcmcia slot that wished it had the type III slot for the type III pcmcia
ATA drive.

zot2u@earthlink.net has

- The powered type 2 to type 3 pcmcia adaptor card with a/c adaptor
$75ea.
- Various Type III pcmcia hd's available which you can use in the
HP200LX with the above pcmcia adaptor.

Attn: PC110 & newer Libretto owners may be interested in the Type III
hd.  You don't need the adaptor.  You can pop the drive in.
340meg unstacked (~700meg stacked) $200
170meg unstacked $125
131meg unstacked $100
and 3 really used 170meg unstacked $200all

Lastly ...in person in So. California only.



Mike Kopplin wrote:
>
> I came across something interesting that I haven't seen discussed here
> before. Sorry if I missed it and it's old news.
>
> I have no connection with the company, don't know anything about them.
>
> Mike Kopplin
> kopplin@primenet.com
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:46:13 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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Subject:      How to Print HTML from 200LX
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I am interested in finding out if there is a way to print HTML
documents directly from the palmtop. I use HV and Print is not on the
menu.

BTW, it seems to me that using HTML is the easiest way to add fonts &
formatting to a document (since I already know the syntax)...
Unless someone knows an easier way. (And I am looking for more than =
boldface,
italics and underlines)

I'm not interested in putting Win 3.0 back on the palmtop,
nor am I interested in learning the TeX syntax.
and I don't think I want to put Envision or GEM back on either.

So how do all you palmtoppers dress up a simple document?

Mike...

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:05:46 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Subject:      Re: How to Print HTML from 200LX
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If it is the actual text in HTML documents that you need, then
HTMSTRIP (on Super) will do the trick. It does what its name implies,
but does take some liberties with formatting - by allowing your
wordprocessor to use its defaults.

I wrote a little batch file that takes a saved HTML file, moves it to a
little dark directory, strips the offending code, then opens it in PE.

And if you need to preserve the fonts, graphics, & formatting... -
Maybe someone else knows how to do it. For my purposes, I'm quite
content with removing these attributes.

Mikhail


> I am interested in finding out if there is a way to print HTML
> documents directly from the palmtop. I use HV and Print is not on the
> menu.
>

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:20:26 -0600
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              Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
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From:         Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      Re: How to Print HTML from 200LX
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Yes, the whole intent is to embellish a document and print it from the
palmtop...

Mike...

> And if you need to preserve the fonts, graphics, & formatting... -
> Maybe someone else knows how to do it. For my purposes, I'm quite
> content with removing these attributes.
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:59:31 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:33:08 -0500 (EST)

01h46m55s ago ...
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Mike Schneider wrote:

> I am interested in finding out if there is a way to print HTML
> documents directly from the palmtop. I use HV and Print is not on the
> menu.

Directly?  Hmmm... I don't think so.  Mikhail suggested HTMSTRIP.  This
may be your best bet.  You can configure it to translate most of the
HTML formatting tags to your choice of strings.  You could, for
example, have it change <h1> to whatever control string your printer
uses for double-high double-wide etc.  Then print the converted
document.

> BTW, it seems to me that using HTML is the easiest way to add fonts &
> formatting to a document (since I already know the syntax)...
> Unless someone knows an easier way. (And I am looking for more than =
boldface,
> italics and underlines)

If you're looking for something simple and not too huge, you'll have to
use a system that uses your printer's built-in fonts.

> I'm not interested in putting Win 3.0 back on the palmtop,
> nor am I interested in learning the TeX syntax.
> and I don't think I want to put Envision or GEM back on either.
>
> So how do all you palmtoppers dress up a simple document?

Well - I'm using VDE for most documents.  It's more of a sophisticated
text editor than word processor, though.  Does handle proportional
spacing, bold, underline, italics, dbl-wide, dbl-high,
dbl-wide+dbl-high, etc.  No embedded graphics or scalable fonts, and
it's not WYSIWYG...

For fancy stuff, I use EnVision.  Does graphics, multiple scalable
fonts, and lots of cool DTP stuff.  But you already said you tried it,
and don't want to use it...

Problem is - to print DIRECTLY from HTML docs with all the formatting
intact, you need to have scalable fonts and the appropriate printer
driver resident on the palmtop.  (Back to WinDoze, GEM, or EVP...)

Sorry, this probably doesn't help much.

-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:02:02 -0800
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              Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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I was asking serial cable for Pocketjet to Shier but they are not
replying me back. Does anyone know where I could get this cable for
HP200LX? How much?

Thank you in advance!

Donglok Kim                    ICSL (Image Computing Systems Lab)
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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:33:44 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Phone.pdb won't sort

Alan Peres writes:
> I rem'd the line in autoexec.bat calling KEYBEZ and rebooted the computer.
> Of course, the sort function in PHONE.PDB now appears to work correctly!
> Does anyone know why this may be happening?

Yep! Aside from some other wonderful things (like displaying Hebrew) keybez
also redefines the sort order according to  the "font" you have loaded! If
you look inside the *.kit file, I think that something is mentioned there
about this. If you use Hebrew for names in the phone book, it will also mangle
the quick search feature. The moral is either use keybez ALL the time or only
load it in the batch file for qtext and then remove it. I use it ALL the time
and have no hassles sorting my databases

======================
David & Irit Becher
davidb@netmedia.net.il
davidb@cimatron.co.il
ph: 972-3-5747193
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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:21:18 +0100
Reply-To:     Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Proj-Mgmt: Pjt2.EXM Vers. 1.2 - Open File... Error
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Excuse me - problem is solved.

I've copied the Pjt2.exm file from my backup to the C: drive again -
now file handling (open, create) works without errors (I think).

I'm still wondering how this happened since the exm-file date and
lenth were correct and chkdsk C: didn't show any errors.

Thanks for reading.
  Hermann

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
> Hermann Kellinghaus
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:48 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Proj-Mgmt: Pjt2.EXM Vers. 1.2 - Open File... Error
> Sensitivity: Personal
>
>
> After some testing using only one .MDB file, I wanted to start with
a
> real application.
>
> But the following file operations don't work:
>  With 'OpenFile...' and 'Create File...'  I get the file menu,
select
> a file name, hit return (or F10 - ok), the tortoise appears - and
is
> not willing to disappear. I have to reboot (Ctrl-Alt-Del and
> sometimes Shift-Ctrl-On).
> When I start Pjt2 after that, the file is loaded resp. created and
> can be worked with.
>
> I'm very surprised, because my 2times 5MB 200LX works very
reliably.
> I've checked for directory naming (A:\_DAT; C:\_DAT; Pjt2 home
dir),
> checked disks (A:, C:) - it stays the same. I don't use
compression,
> but Key200 - nothing special at all, I think.
>
> Does anyone of you have (had) similar experiences? - Thanks in
> advance.
>
>  Hermann
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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:25:27 EST
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From:         Cathy Schilm <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX Software - TechnoTools
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The site that has the programs:
 <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/adm/popup/roadmap.shtml">TechnoTools
Programming</A>

Cathy

In a message dated 2/26/99 6:28:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL writes:

<< Just a general note. A friend gave my a CD called Technotools. This CD is
 loaded with DOS/Unix tools and Utilities.

 covers: C/C++, dBase; Assembly, AI, Pascal, ADA, Fortran, Cobol, APL, Forth,
 Fifth, AWK, GAWK, MAWK and many other tools >>

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:54:46 -0800
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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      PHONE FIELDS HP95LX
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TO: All that had an HP95LX AT ONE TIME OR CURRENLY HAS ONE. Is there a
way to change the fields in telephone book? I don't think it can be
done but maybe (it's a long shot) there is a way.

I have a HP200LX but it's with Thaddeus Computing being repair, so I
Turn to my HP95LX. (Boy! you really get spoil after using the HP200LX)

     Drop me a line nay or yea
                                        Bob Elliott Jr

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:10:36 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Subject:      LXTCP/PNR help request
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Hello.

I am trying to use LXTCP to set up email and newsgroup access for Palmtop
News Reader 3.0.  My service provider is ibm.net.  I am awfully close to
having things configured, and I'm hoping someone could spend a moment to
help me out.  I am using DOSPPP v0.6, and its EPPPD driver.  I have
successfully made a connection and can PING to the nameserver.  However, I
am relying on a BOOTP server to do the configuring, and so I don't have a
WATTCP.CFG file.  According to the LXPOP docs, I need this file to run
LXPOP, as well as other parts of the LXTCP package. I've tried creating a
WATTCP.CFG file with just the information that LXPOP specifically needs
(e.g., pop.server, smtp.server, etc.), and leaving out the other stuff
that EPPPD looks for, since I don't know some of the other things that are
normally found in that file (e.g., my_ip, netmask, gateway).
Unfortunately, that then confused EPPPD.  When I removed WATTCP.CFG, EPPPD
was fine, but LXPOP was confused.  What is going wrong here?

Thanks for any help you can provide, and thanks to Rod Whitby for creating
the LXTCP and PNR packages.  I think that they will be the ideal setup
for me, since:
1) They have low disk storage requirements.
2) They are standard POP mail and NNTP news programs.
3) They have a nice .EXM interface which allows good menus, F-keys, and
zooming the screen.
Goin' Postal can do the first two, and palmtop.com can do 1+3, but
LXTCP/PNR is the only one that does all of them.

Thanks again and cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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I have WWW/LX and LXTCP all setup for the cellphone, a batch file to upload my
cellular driver to the modem, etc..  All works pretty good.

But connections have a lot of latency, although I've had *no* dropped carrier,
except a few incoming calls.

I have AT&f1)M1*H0-K1-Q1W2s11=40s6=5&c1&d2l1m1 as my init string, the stuff
between &f1 and W2 is suggested by a Rockwell modem manual, I will investigate
those options sometime, not even sure what they do, except allow carrier
shifts from 1200 to 9600.

I usually connect at 4800.

Anyway, a URL or tips would be great!  Thanks!

BTW, I drove across town connected, and retrieved netnews the whole way.  :)
As I understand it, this is not typical, usually switching cells will drop
carrier.  Across town is 11 or so miles.

--
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Does anybody know the format for built in help files?

The SDK gives the structures necessary to access the help sytem codes, =
but
does not give any insight into the format of the help file itself. I'd
appreciate any input anyone has

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Donglok,

Did you try www.shier.com?  That is where I got my cable.  Maybe
Thaddeus or One Stop carries them.   I think they are $35.     =Bob=

Donglok Kim wrote:

> I was asking serial cable for Pocketjet to Shier but they are not
> replying me back. Does anyone know where I could get this cable for
> HP200LX? How much?
>

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:00:14 -0500, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

 > If you haven't doen it already...make sure your phone # is on your
 > TopCard!!!

Probably easier to put it in your Owner Information than in
the topcard.pcx :) ...

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Daniel,

 > (for example I want to run WWW/LX and POST/LX from SysMgr with maxdos.
 > But I haven't found out how to assign the original WWW/LX- and POST/LX
 > icons).

Here is a GENERIC procedure to assign icons to apps, even
if the icon is not in the same subdirectory, or not the
same name. Follow these steps carefully:

1. Open Applications Manager, press Add

2. enter the name

3. in Path: field enter the name of the icon (i.e.
a:\misc\icons\www.icn) - NOT the program, but ICON you
want.

4. Tab to the little icon window. The icon you named should
appear now. If not, you did not enter its full path name
correctly. Redo.

5. When the icon appears, tab more until you are back in
the Path field. Now enter your PROGRAM patch as you would
normally.

6. Press F10.

The icon can be deleted if you want to save 1K or 2K (maybe
512 bytes :) ...) It is now embedded in appmgr.dat in
C:\_dat.

You can add/change icons in existing apps by simply moving
to the path, highlighting it then Fn= - COPY. then enter
the icon's path, tab to the icon window to confirm, then
back to path and Paste.

Hope this helps.

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:39:18 -0500, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

 > > Well, I really meant an 'Australian Palmtop' if there is such a
 > > thing...
 >
 >      I think you will find that on the 'Australian Palmtop', the screen
 > is on the bottom & the keys are on the top...(apologies for "North
 > American humor")

Yesterday CNN carried a story of the dominance of Aussies
in climbing the stairs on the Empire State Bldg in NYC. It
occured to me that there is a simple explanation: They are
really going down when they climb in the northern
hemisphere, so it is a snap for them... :-) ...

BTW: Congrats to the Aussies on the fantastic stamina test.
It was amazing!

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:51:35 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

 > - Then go to "Icon" and pick the app icon (which should be in the same directory
 > as the app executable)

This is a misconception. Does not have to be either the same name, nor the same
directory. See my post to Daniel in the same run.

 > - After the icon is set, then go back to "Path" and pre-pend the MaxDOS
 > string...the icon should stay unchanged when you do this.
 >
 > This tip was from Avi.....way back.

Oops! Ehrm! I think the tip for the icons is not good, and
since I have been telling people the good icon trick for
several years now, I would have given the proper one. I
just posted it to Daniel... Take a look.

What I said about MaxDOS should be tested. I am no expert
on MaxDOS since I use Software Carousel, but  am told this
is how it works by Andreas, and many customers.

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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:24:55 +1100, David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET> w=
rote:

 > Does anyone know of a German/English Translation program that will run
 > on the palmtop?
 >=20
 > Even just a plain text word list would help.
 >=20
 > Also, does anyone know if I can create the:
 >=20
 > a-Umlat
 > o-umlat
 > u-Umlat
 > EsZet
 >=20
 > characters on the palmtop?

I am way late, catching up after a week of other
busyness...=20

If you have not received replies on this one here is my
reply:=20

I know of only a Langenscheid disctionary, not a
translator. German is a complex language and mostly
translating programs I have seen for large machines make a
mockery of the original, the translated and the author - it
is very difficult. I perceived the translators I saw as
unreliable and fairly useless.=20

Characters: Two answers:=20

1. Look in your User Guide.=20

2. a-Umlat et al.   - FnU letter so a-umlaut is FnUa  =E4
   EsZet - Fn-s =20

 Bitte sch=F6n!

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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:01:39 -0600, Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET> wrote:

 > For Avi's info, QTEXT for Windows has a keyboard template that matches the
 > DOS version pretty well. There are a couple of differences because the HP's
 > keyboard does not duplicate a normal full size one. Also the Windows
 > software has a list of keyboard commands, at least some of which are the
 > same as the DOS program.  (You can get this from the trial version
 > available on the Web.  If you cannot find it, let me know and I will try to
 > extract the info and send it along. I'll be gone for a few days so it
 > wouldn't be till the weekend.)

Alan, I was in SF all of last week, so I am only now
catching up. I have simply pressed each key on the keyboard
in order, then turned on the Hebrew mode and repeted the
sequence in the next line (minding the direction! :) -- and
there! a keyboard layout.

Thank you very much. I like qtext2, very powerful!

 > I know that QTEXT for DOS can show either latin or Hebrew letters.
 >
 > Is there a way to set up the program so that the various commands, help
 > files, etc are shown in English?

Since the program changes between languages almost
instantly, I think just going to help and switching to
English is the way to go. I did not see any command to make
the program function in hybrid mode.

 > My Hebrew knowledge is very limited, so I wasn't hoping to use the program
 > for actual Hebrew word processing, but for copying some Hebrew text into
 > the HP for inclusion into other documents.

The help file certainly can teach you some new, modern,
computer-related Hebrew words! <G>...

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:54:39 -0600, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

 > Is there a way to password-lock the 200LX while it is still on?  I would
 > like to leave my computer, and have it ON and still password protected.
 > (Like LOCK WORKSTATION on a windows desktop machine).  My reason is that
 > whenever I turn off my computer, WWW/LX refuses to connect to my POP3
 > server (using ethernet connection) without my re-booting.  This is an
 > annoyance, to say the least.  Apparently turning the computer off and
 > back on disturbs something, maybe the packet or other drivers.

I think the issue is with the enabler which quits when you
turn of power, rather than a WWW/LX issue. I wish we could
solve this...

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1 day 12h27m58s ago ...
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:39:15 -0500 (EST), Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Ed=
u> wrote:

> Hey Dave:
>
> 03h18m50s ago ...
> On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, David Eggins wrote:
>
> > 22h02m25s ago ...
> >
> > Well, I really meant an 'Australian Palmtop' if there is such a
> > thing...
>
>      I think you will find that on the 'Australian Palmtop', the screen
> is on the bottom & the keys are on the top...(apologies for "North
> American humor")
>
>

Isn't yours made like that?  :-)

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I currently run Spectrum Microcap II version 3.6 on my palmtop for
circuit analysis but if you need an extra `head' to help get the palmtop
circuit then include me as a candidate.

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In phonebook use the File-Menu to copy it to a new file named
xyz.pdb.
Then open this file in phonebook and look if it's still not sorting
correctly.

This procedure may clean up something. Look for all entries beeing
still there.

Good luck,
  Hermann

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> Alan Peres
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 9:40 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Phone.pdb won't sort
>
>
> Suddenly, my phone.pdb file won't sort. (I have a HP100LX 1
> MEG if that
> makes any difference.)
>
> I have about 650 entries in my file. It is a standard file,
> unmodified.
>
> The first 620 or so are all in alphabetical order. The rest are out
of
> order at the end of the file. I have tried using the Sort
> command (F7) but
> that doesn't change anything. The wrongly sorted entries at
> the end are not
> in any particular order.
>
> I have also tried opening some of the wrongly placed entries,
> and closing
> them, thinking they might be relocated, but that hasn't worked
either.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Alan
>
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Hello List People:

I posted awhile ago about a hinge that is too tight. Thank
you all for all the advice. I had tried oil, and it just
did not do a thing. I had WD40 and squirted a very very
small amount, two-three drops. Soon after starting to work
the hing, it began to loosen up and eventually seemd to
stabilise at a tightness that was ok for me.

So it worked, so far :) ..

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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:14:56 EST, "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> wrote:

 > There is another company Grey somthing, that sells this same thing

Greystone. I believe they advertise in the Palmtop Paper.

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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:33:44 +0200, David Becher <davidb@netmedia.net.il> wrote:

 > the quick search feature. The moral is either use keybez ALL the time or only
 > load it in the batch file for qtext and then remove it. I use it ALL the time
 > and have no hassles sorting my databases

I know how to add the .FON and .KIT files (run keybez he)
but by remove you mean take out the files from C:\?

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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:02:02 -0800, Donglok Kim <dong@ICSL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:

 > I was asking serial cable for Pocketjet to Shier but they are not
 > replying me back. Does anyone know where I could get this cable for
 > HP200LX? How much?

I just saw David Shier today in the morning. So he is
around. Try to fax your request, and make sure to give him
YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS.

Also, I forwarded your post here to him to his personal
email address.

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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:13:04 -0500, Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET> wrote:

 > P.S. Speaking of AS/400's, anybody know what I could do with an old System
 > 36? It weighs about 300 lbs, can't run any of the software my company needs,
 > and is collecting dust in the middle of my computer room. The Boat Anchor
 > idea was presented, but we're afraid it might sink the boat :)

Patrick:

Have you all considered using the S36 as a building block
for the coral reef? :) It is simple to implement via the
"floatation test". You poise the S36 on top of the water
and then observe if it sinks or floats. Then you go home
feeling good that another coral reef has been started. :-)

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:58:27 -0800
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:46:13 -0600, Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET> wrote:

 > I am interested in finding out if there is a way to print HTML
 > documents directly from the palmtop. I use HV and Print is not on the
 > menu.

HV stands for HTML Viewer, and I think that tells that
story, view, not print :) ... Quite seriously, though, HV
was never intended to print, only to show on the screen.
Adding the code for print formatting would make the program
unusable on the palmtop because of the size.

 > BTW, it seems to me that using HTML is the easiest way to add fonts &
 > formatting to a document (since I already know the syntax)...

I think you confuse something: The fonts I see on my
machine when viewing document XYZ.HTML are totally
specifiable by me. I can tell my browser exactly what to
use, which I like, overriding anything that you think I
should use. Even those tags that specify the font to be
used, _assume_ that my machine has the same fonts. But that
is entirely not reliable, so using html for font formatting
is rather the worst way to go.

The only way to assure yourself that _your_ of fonts is
what I see in a document you publish is via PDF.

 > So how do all you palmtoppers dress up a simple document?

I put in some knockout content, with interest and "meat",
not fluffy fonts and whirling gifs :) ...

  Avi M. İD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:58:50 -0800
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James,

 > I am trying to use LXTCP to set up email and newsgroup access for Palmtop
 > News Reader 3.0.  My service provider is ibm.net.  I am awfully close to

I don't know the package you use, but what login id do you
use? It should be "usinet/loginid". Also, be aware that IBM
Net has two services: SLIP and PPP, and sometimes these are
available at different phone numbers.

 > Thanks for any help you can provide, and thanks to Rod Whitby for creating
 > the LXTCP and PNR packages.  I think that they will be the ideal setup
 > for me, since:
 > 1) They have low disk storage requirements.
 > 2) They are standard POP mail and NNTP news programs.
 > 3) They have a nice .EXM interface which allows good menus, F-keys, and
 > zooming the screen.
 > Goin' Postal can do the first two, and palmtop.com can do 1+3, but
 > LXTCP/PNR is the only one that does all of them.

I am curious how much storage the whole setup takes on your
disk?

Our product, WWW/LX Plus v 2, meets #2. The storage
requirement is about 500K installed, including email,
newsgroups and browser. Significantly less without the browser.
As to #3, PAL library was created for exatly that purpose,
to provide the System Manager GUI. We use that in Post/LX
(and in HV).

You can download the full code of WWW/LX Plus Version 2
from http://www.dasoft.com and try it out. The download is
limited only in that it operates in Demo mode, allowing 16K
of transmission before it stops operating. You may restart
as many sessions as you wish, though, to test it out.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:58:35 -0800
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:20:26 -0600, Mike Schneider <mikeschn@FLASH.NET> wrote:

 > Yes, the whole intent is to embellish a document and print it from the
 > palmtop...

Well, that is different than HTML printing... Your best bet
would be one of the word processors such as LetterPerfect,
WordPerfect 5.1, and Word 5.5 (DOS), and others too. They run
on the palmtop, take minimal learning (you said you do not
want to learn TeX!) and they have some good capabilities in
the font arena and image embedding.

HTML as a font embedder is actually the worst choice, as I
explained in my prev. message, since _I_ choose the fonts
which will show on my browser, not you.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:18:09 -0600
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For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...

I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
(gasp) I'm starting to like it!

My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?

Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?

Thanks,
Steve




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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:08:46 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi

Is anyone using Kingmax Flash cards?  Power drain speed info would be
appreciated if you are?  Reliability etc?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:27:11 +0000
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According to the supplier's web site, the "Magnify" software won't work
in DOS when Fn + spacebar works to zoom the screen. It says it only
works with the LX's built - in apps and DOS programmes where Fn +
spacebar zoom doesn't work.

Has anyone come up with a way around this?

I use Info Select and although I've got it set so one note at a time
shows in the screen in the medium zoom mode, sometimes I have difficulty
reading certain characters so I zoom to the largest magnification then I
often have to mess about with scrolling to the right off screen.

The "Magnify" software would be great for this situation if it worked in
DOS exactly like it does with the built - in apps.


Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:19:34 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Modem problem (plus palmtop horror story)
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1 day 13h20m55s ago ...
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:51:45 -0600 (CMT), R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.C=
OM> wrote:

> > > > I used the work PCMCIA modem, which really draws too much current.=
 I
> > > > sat the HP on a ice pack to keep it cool, and had it plugged in =
to the
> > > > adaptor, because it shuts down without it.
> > >
> > > I am not sure but think that having to take those measures means =
that
> > > your pcmcia modem may be too demanding.
>
> Might I suggest dry ice - you won't have to fool with the melted water
> dripping all over the place.
>
>

Thanks for the suggestion...  I no longer use that modem, I only used
it that once to send a please help message to the list to get my own
PCMCIA modem working, which it now does, thanks to the help from this
great list.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:22:38 +0100
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>   EsZet - Fn-s


The germanspeaking (or something nearly german) people in Switzerland (as I)
and in Austria don't need the EsZet character to write the same sentences
like germans. That is, because EsZet is nothing than a double-s (ss).
Because of that, the new grammar (I don't like it) doesn't anymore want to
have the double-s. It is one of the positive things, the new grammar brought
to us.

So don't forget: there are other nearly-german-speaking folks without the
need of a double-s.

Herzlichen Gruss
-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:31:43 +0000
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> Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?

I may be wrong (not unlikely) but I thought the 360lx was of the newer
win-ce variety and should already by 2.? but not the "pro" version????

But we will both get hell for discussing it here! (G)

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> According to the supplier's web site, the "Magnify" software won't work
> in DOS when Fn + spacebar works to zoom the screen. It says it only

Actually, I think it can work but then InfoSelect won't!!!  I think
there may be an obscure dos graphic mode (hard to set or get into) where
magnify works in a fashion but not well.  IS will not work over a
graphic dos application or screen mode.

> reading certain characters so I zoom to the largest magnification then I
> often have to mess about with scrolling to the right off screen.

You have to set the scroll lock mode - see the manual under DOS settings
somewhere near the end.  YOu can turn off cursor tracking using a batch
command.  At the moment I don't recall but something using a + or -k

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:29:29 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Yes. They live on D: - you can always bring them back....

Mikhail

>
> I know how to add the .FON and .KIT files (run keybez he)
> but by remove you mean take out the files from C:\?
>

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Subject:      Re: LXTCP/PNR help request

James P. Grenert writes:

> am relying on a BOOTP server to do the configuring, and so I don't have a
> WATTCP.CFG file.  According to the LXPOP docs, I need this file to run
> LXPOP, as well as other parts of the LXTCP package. I've tried creating a
> WATTCP.CFG file with just the information that LXPOP specifically needs
> (e.g., pop.server, smtp.server, etc.), and leaving out the other stuff
> that EPPPD looks for, since I don't know some of the other things that are
> normally found in that file (e.g., my_ip, netmask, gateway).


You are correct to omit netmask and gateway, but must include
in your wattcp.cfg the following line:

   my_ip=bootp

I think this is probably the only thing you need to add, but for
reference I'm including the step by step process I followed for
my setup.

Ted

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------- Begin include --------------------

It may be helpful to see my setup.  Here is a brief overview.
I put my program files in a directory named c:\lxtcp, but you
can pick any directory name you want.  I have the following
files in my working directory (c:\lxtcp):

  chat.exe
  epppd.exe
  lxntp.exe
  lxpop.exe
  pnr.exm
  pnrti.exe
  pppd.cfg
  termin.com
  wattcp.cfg

I have created two subdirectories (c:\lxtcp\filed and
c:\lxtcp\mailbox) for saved messages and incoming/outgoing
messages.  My pppd.cfg file has:

  com2
  38400
  crtscts
  connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7757000 CONNECT"
  user "xxx"
  passwd "yyy"
  namsrv 206.64.96.2
  namsrv 206.64.96.3

where the strings after chat describe alternately the commands
to the modem (AT&F and ATDT7757000) and the responses expected
(OK and CONNECT).  If you need a different initialization
string for your modem, put it in place of the AT&F.  Also, put
your own local dialup number in place of 7757000.  I think with
an external modem you would need com1 instead of com2.  Replace
the xxx with your username and yyy with your password.  The
namsrv numbers should be the IP numbers for the DNS for your
ISP.  You may need to ask your ISP.  Or check their web page.
You don't have to have two different numbers, but it can help
at times.

My wattcp.cfg file contains:

my_ip=bootp
domainslist="nlci.com"
smtp.server=smtp.nlci.com
nntp.server=news.nlci.com
pop.server=pop3.nlci.com
pop.username=xxx
pop.password=yyy
lxpop.spooldir=c:\lxtcp\mailbox
lxnntp.spooldir=c:\lxtcp\mailbox

The bootp lets LXTCP get the IP number from the server (for use
with dynamic IP assignment).  The gateway and netmask are not
needed, you can omit those lines.  Next, you will need
to replace the nlci.com, smtp.nlci.com, news.nlci.com, and
pop3.nlci.com with the names of your ISP servers for each of
these services.  Again, xxx and yyy are your username and
password.  The last two lines tell lxpop and lxnntp where to
look for messages--rename those to match the directory names
you chose.

Finally, (almost there :) you will need to have pnr.cfg in your
c:\dat directory.  The following lines must be in it:

İPNR¨
user=theise
host=netins.net
name=Theodore Heise
folder=c:\lxtcp\filed
spool=c:\lxtcp\mailbox
timezone=-0500

The user, host, and name can be whatever you want--they will be
used on outgoing messages.  The folder and spool must match the
directory names you picked above.  Timezone is relative to GMT,
the -0500 is applicable for Eastern Standard Time (U.S.).
Feel free to e-mail if you have questions.

Ted


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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:03:01 -0600
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<<phone: list time I USED IT Was 1-800-373-6114>>

Thanks, I inadvertently left that off.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:27:24 PST
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Susanne;
I finally got my 200lx to back up properly.  I did this by leaving FIFO on
but setting the buffers to their lowest position.
Thanks for sending me in the right direction,
Bill

On         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:34:38 -0800, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Just found this post on the newsgroup.
>
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:43:37 +0100
> From: Susanne Moehring <smoehring@easy-use.de>
> To: "William A. Korn" <longled@concentric.net>
> Subject: Re: Transfile 200 & Windows 98
>
> William,
> you have to deactivate FIFO in Windows98. You can find this option under
> Systemsettings and then Interfaces, COM-Port. Sorry that I do not know =
> the
> exact menu descriptions as I use a German version of Windows.
> If you use Windows98 and Transfile with FIFO activated the serial port of
> your Thinkpad "overruns" the transfer protocol.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Susanne
>
> http://www.hppalmtop.de
>
> "William A. Korn" schrieb:
>
> > I am trying to setup a new laptop that came with Windows 98 and I
> > downloaded a fresh copy of Transfile 200 (tf103) from the HP site. It
> > seemed to load and install correctly, but I have two HP 200s and =
> neither
> > of them will transfer to or backup correctly on my new machine.  It
> > gives "No connection to palmtop..." and "Could not open file..."
> > messages.  I checked out both 200s on my old Windows 95 machine and =
> they
> > both backed up OK.  Is there a problem with Windows 98 and Transfile =
> 200
> > and, if so, is there a solution?
> > Your help is appreciated,
> > Bill
>
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>
> "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
> İhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
>
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We also have a system 36 that is getting in the way and I would appreciate any
ideas for its future. West Texas is a long way from a coral reef.

A Meshar wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:13:04 -0500, Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET> wrote:
>
>  > P.S. Speaking of AS/400's, anybody know what I could do with an old System
>  > 36? It weighs about 300 lbs, can't run any of the software my company needs,
>  > and is collecting dust in the middle of my computer room. The Boat Anchor
>  > idea was presented, but we're afraid it might sink the boat :)
>
> Patrick:
>
> Have you all considered using the S36 as a building block
> for the coral reef? :) It is simple to implement via the
> "floatation test". You poise the S36 on top of the water
> and then observe if it sinks or floats. Then you go home
> feeling good that another coral reef has been started. :-)
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
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I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
for the CE machines.

Steve D. wrote:

> For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
>
> I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
>
> My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
>
> Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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Any way to display the e-mails' date in the messages view of PNR?

Also, from what I have observed/read, the storage format for PNR
folders is identical to that on a UNIX mailbox, except for the addition
of four control-characters between each message.  Can someone confirm
this?  If so, can a PNR folder be placed on a UNIX machine and read
with native e-mail programs, or does one have to remove the control
characters (using tr -d or similar) first?

Thanks,

-Chris

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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:29:29 +0000, Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET> wrote:

 > Yes. They live on D: - you can always bring them back....

I know where to find the files. But I am not clear if the
removal process is just to delete the files? (They don't
actually live on D: they get created by running Keybez HE,
and put on C:\)...

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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:22:38 +0100, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@dataco=
mm.ch> wrote:

 > >   EsZet - Fn-s
 >=20
 > The germanspeaking (or something nearly german) people in Switzerland =
(as I)
 > and in Austria don't need the EsZet character to write the same senten=
ces
 > like germans. That is, because EsZet is nothing than a double-s (ss).
 > Because of that, the new grammar (I don't like it) doesn't anymore wan=
t to
 > have the double-s. It is one of the positive things, the new grammar b=
rought
 > to us.
 >=20
 > So don't forget: there are other nearly-german-speaking folks without =
the
 > need of a double-s.

I am totally aware of this. I lived in Germany as a kid,
and learned my German there. My partner is Swiss, and I am
aware of the German language reform which occured two years
ago, and specifically regarding =DF and ss (as in Stra=DFe in
Germany, and Strasse is Switzerland.)=20

Regarding language reform, I agree, some of it seems
ridiculous to me too, but oh well, one adjusts.=20

My help to the German speaker re esZet was not a statement
of public comment on the nationality of any of the
German-speaking and the nearly-German-speaking people in
Europe and elsewhere, it was just a reply to the question.
I hope I did not iffend your Swiss Pride in any way... I
plan to visit this year (may?) and I do not want you to
wait for me at the border with an arrow pointing at my
face! :) ...=20

I believe some people will continue using EsZet for the
rest of their lives, reform or no reform, and that's that.
If you Swiss are so annoyed by it, you should have joined
the EU and lobbied to use the spot where =DF is for the Euro
sign!!! :) That would have been a good contribution, rather
than sit on the sideline and criticise everyone from the
sidelines :) ....

(This is all in humour, please take it like this, ok?)=20

Und ein herzlichen Gru=DF, (oder war's ein Gruess?)

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Hi all

I just had a curious thing happen. Vanilla 200LX 2MB

I charged overnight and lost about 3 hours on the time display.  Stopped
charging etc and the display stayed at that time ie advanced correctly but
3hours approx slow..  Rebooted and the time corrected itself to normal.

Any idea what had happened? Anyone else noticed this phenomena?

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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:27:11 +0000, Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

 > According to the supplier's web site, the "Magnify" software won't work
 > in DOS when Fn + spacebar works to zoom the screen. It says it only
 > works with the LX's built - in apps and DOS programmes where Fn +
 > spacebar zoom doesn't work.
 >
 > Has anyone come up with a way around this?

I am not sure I know what you are talking about. Let me
check what I wrote on the Webpage. I assume you mean D&A
Software since you wrote "supplier" and we are producer,
but also supply it to individuals and dealers... Or did you
see it on someone else's webpage?

Aha, I see: FAQ question 2: The point is that in DOS the
screens are generally not in graphics mode. So Magnify
cannot use the image of the screen in the screen buffer to
enlarge the pixels.

In most DOS applications you CAN use the zoom, and that can
give you some relief (this is built into the palmtop!)

There is NO way around it. Let me explain: The graphics
screen is stored in a specific memory location which the
hardware knows to display on the screen. Magnify goes to
that buffer and picks the chunk of the screen that it is
supposed to magnify (that is the lense size.) It then scans
the pixels in that chink of screen. If the magnification is
2x, then each pixel is doubled. For magnification 3x is is
tripled, etc.

Example:

Normal size letter in pixels:


 x      x
  x    x
   x  x
    xx
    xx
   x  x
  x    x
 x      x

2x magnification:

 xx            xx
 xx            xx
   xx        xx
   xx        xx
     xx    xx
     xx    xx
       xxxx
       xxxx
       xxxx
       xxxx
     xx    xx
     xx    xx
   xx        xx
   xx        xx
 xx            xx
 xx            xx


Notice that the magnification doubles the number of pixels
in both directions?

After this is down for all the pixels inside the lens, this
is copied on top of the graphics screen buffer.

In non-graphics mode, the letters are formed in a
completely different way, and there is no screen buffer
that we can play with.


 > I use Info Select and although I've got it set so one note at a time
 > shows in the screen in the medium zoom mode, sometimes I have difficulty
 > reading certain characters so I zoom to the largest magnification then I
 > often have to mess about with scrolling to the right off screen.

It wouldb e wonderful if the product was sensitive to the
screen mode and adjusted its own display to the "viewport"
you use when you zoom in and out.

 > The "Magnify" software would be great for this situation if it worked in
 > DOS exactly like it does with the built - in apps.

This will not happen, because we simply do not have the
information to play with. In text mode, you have no control
over individual pixels...

Sorry to bear some uncomfortable news.

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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:42:37 -0600, James Gill <jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET> wrote:

 > We also have a system 36 that is getting in the way and I would appreciate any
 > ideas for its future. West Texas is a long way from a coral reef.

Aha! Yes. Well we have an alternate plan. It is basically
the same principle, but was designed for more landlocked
locations.

So here is how: You utilise the machine as a planter. You
must empty all its innards, and send them to people who
salvage metals from the boards (there is lots of gold in
them that boards ... Hrrrr...) With the money you get, you
buy soil and seed, and you fill the cabinet with soil (you
can also bury it partially in the ground) and plat the
seeds. Soon, you'll have flowers, tomatoes, bell peppers
etc, even corn growing out of the S36. A good use for it
(finally!)

Some suggested similar treatment for the WinCE machines,
but alas, they are too small, so mostly they are good as
platforms to grow bonsai trees.

Please remove the batteries first... You can use the pen to
help aereate the soil for better water retention. The
reflective screen can be strategically directed towards the
sun to reflect its rays to the backside of the bonsai
trees.

The keys on the keyboard are excellent rootholds for the
little trees. And they can always use the pMSIE _if_ their
ISP uses CHAP, since keying on the keyboard maybe a
dangerous activity, potentially toppling a tree trying to
enter and umplaut or some other accent with a key
combinaiton, and losing its roothold.

One danger is the stgnation of the O/S, it may cause
rootrot, so beware...

I guess that is it. Enjoy...

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:31:15 -0800
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.. wait for the jornada 420 - color palmtop - amazing!!

James Gill wrote:

> I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
> case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
> note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
> for the CE machines.
>
> Steve D. wrote:
>
> > For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> > using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> > it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
> >
> > I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> > (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
> >
> > My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> > list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
> >
> > Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> > the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
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James Gill wrote:
>
> I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
> case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
> note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
> for the CE machines.
>
> Steve D. wrote:
>
> > For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> > using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> > it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
> >
> > I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> > (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
> >
> > My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> > list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
> >
> > Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> > the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > ________________________________________________________
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Steve! you are giving up a awful lot,are you sure? I to have a HP320LX I
too was seduce
by the dark side BUT After reading a few of their HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE
and putting
the HP320LX THROUGH MANY TASKS, I escape the dark side and back to the
HPLX FORCE.
Don't get me wrong the HP360LX is a nice unit but why don't you get a
copy of their
handheld pc magazine go through it a few month's give the HP360LX A
Shake down(put it through all the tasks that you did with your HP200LX
SEE WHERE THE HP360LX STANDS.

                            don't give in to the dark side
                               return to the HPLX FORCE
                                   Bob Elliott Jr

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James Gill wrote:
>
> I have also been toying with the idea of moving to a CE machine. In my
> case the Jornada as I would like to have access to Access. Please make
> note of my email address and inform me if you find a list like this one
> for the CE machines.
>
> Steve D. wrote:
>
> > For a number of months now I have thoroughly enjoyed
> > using the 200LX, and interacting with this list. But now
> > it looks like I'm going over to the dark side...
> >
> > I have a used HP 360LX that is running WinCE 1.0, and
> > (gasp) I'm starting to like it!
> >
> > My question is this... Does anyone know of an HPLX mailing
> > list that I can subscribe to that is oriented to the CE machines?
> >
> > Also, I was wondering if Thaddeous (or anyone else) sells
> > the ROM upgrade for the 360LX for going from CE 1.0 to 2.0?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > ________________________________________________________
> > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet.  Shouldn't you?
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Steve! Bob here again I should not say this but in all fairness you can
obtain the
up grade from win ce 1.0 to win ce 2.0 FROM "your one stop palmtop shop"
for $129.95
I Might be hunted down for this.(smile)

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Bob... I like the GUI, the bigger backlit screen, and the larger keyboard
on the 360LX.
Since I have a nice PC at work and at home, my primary use of the 200LX
was as a PIM and daily journal (I also used Vertical Reader). So I don't
think I'll really lose too much by going to the 360LX.
I'm letting my daughter use the 200LX, so it's still in the family in case
I decide I need to go back. : )

Steve

>Steve! you are giving up a awful lot,are you sure? I to have a HP320LX I
>too was seduce
>by the dark side BUT After reading a few of their HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE
>and putting
>the HP320LX THROUGH MANY TASKS, I escape the dark side and back to the
>HPLX FORCE.


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In a message dated 2/28/1999 6:57:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sdowell@NETZERO.NET writes:

> Since I have a nice PC at work and at home, my primary use of the 200LX
>  was as a PIM and daily journal (I also used Vertical Reader). So I don't
>  think I'll really lose too much by going to the 360LX.
>

This is exactly the point.  If what you are looking for is a PIM, and you are
looking for an adjunct to your desk top, a WinCE machine makes sense.  Every
machine has tradeoffs, and the 200LX's may not be for you.  However, if you
are looking for a computer that you can have with you all the time, then a
WinCE machine is NOT for you, and the 200LX (modified by T2T) is, in fact, the
sweet spot.

        Different horses for different courses.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

(And I didn't shred anyone.)

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Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:43:03 -0500 (EST)

Hi all-

What with all the posts about "the Dark Side", here's good news from
the Good Side of the HP Force  8-)

If you read about X-Finder in the Nov-Dec '98 Palmtop Paper, but didn't
want the hassle of trying to figure out a program without English docs,
visit SUPER, and grab it now!  This is an updated and improved version
complete with English documentation.  It's a terrific program - a
combination of GUI file manager and GUI program launcher.  Even treats
.LZH and .ZIP archives as directories.  File operations to and from
archives work just like other file operations.  This version also runs
considerably faster than the older ones  8-)

Check it out.

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Avi,

Sometimes, I need to run KEYBEZ RU. I use it, then delete from C:
without making it part of my autoexec. In fact, I find the use limited
because I never found the way to print it out. None of the many
printers that I encounter has cyrillic support.

Mikhail

> On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:29:29 +0000, Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET> wrote:
>
>  > Yes. They live on D: - you can always bring them back....
>
> I know where to find the files. But I am not clear if the
> removal process is just to delete the files? (They don't
> actually live on D: they get created by running Keybez HE,
> and put on C:\)...
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:47:00 -0500
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Hello All;

It seems to me that this story points out a serious flaw in the design of
the 200LX.  If your unit is "locked" (password protected), then someone
finding it doesn't get to see the topcard when they turn it on, and hence
can't find out your name and telephone number to return it to you.

After reading the thread, I've decided to make sure PW protection is off
when I travel, and to also make sure I quit all apps when I'm not actively
using the unit, in the hopes that if I do lose the LX, it will come back to
me.

I may someday make a new topcard with Reward if Found and contact info in
(on?) it, so I can go back to PW protection.

Just an observation.

Tom Frank

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:55:03 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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From:         Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: HP200LX and related
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Diconix 180si Serial Printer w/Cartridges $100 + shipping
EtherLink III 3C589B PCMCIA 10BT & Coax   $ 90 + shipping

I have old DOS programs including word processors, programming, etc. Too
many to list here. For a list, contact:
+-----------------------------------------------+
| Robert K. Meyer          Day 307-324-4520     |
| Box 57 -- 109 Alder      Eve 307-348-7348     |
| Elk Mountain, WY 82324   bmeyer@union-tel.com |
+-----------------------------------------------+

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:16:49 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Hebrew Text
Comments: To: Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>,
          David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>,
          Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>,
          Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>,
          Todd Cohn <tcohn@gardcorp.com>, Jack Cohn <rocknruach@aol.com>
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I've included those who have from time to time initiated or responded to
some of the discussions regarding Hebrew on the HP200LX.

A FEW QUESTIONS:

1. In what way can Windows-based CD-ROMs having Hebrew text be downloaded
into the HP200LX and correspond to the HP200LX Hebrew character set(s)?

2.  There is a growing list of Hebrew texts that have been adapted for the
Palm Pilot.  Is there any way to utilize these Hebrew texts that can be
readily downloaded form the palm pilot software website at:
http://members.aol.com/ari11210/pilot/collection.htm

3.  Would like to see a vertical reader-type application for Hebrew.  Aside
from the sheer manual input of any Hebrew text I was hoping in some way not
to have to re-create the wheel./

Les Cohn

P.S.  If for any reason, you have no interest in this topic, please e-mail
me and I will remove your name from any further communication.




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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:16:42 +1300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM
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From:         Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: HP200LX and related
Comments: To: Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Hi Bob,

I'd like to see the list please

Cheers...

Roger Whitmarsh






Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> on 01/03/99 14:55:03

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Please
      respond to Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Roger Whitmarsh/New Zealand/IBM)
Subject:  Re: FS: HP200LX and related





Diconix 180si Serial Printer w/Cartridges $100 + shipping
EtherLink III 3C589B PCMCIA 10BT & Coax   $ 90 + shipping

I have old DOS programs including word processors, programming, etc. Too
many to list here. For a list, contact:
+-----------------------------------------------+
| Robert K. Meyer          Day 307-324-4520     |
| Box 57 -- 109 Alder      Eve 307-348-7348     |
| Elk Mountain, WY 82324   bmeyer@union-tel.com |
+-----------------------------------------------+

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:45:34 -0800
Reply-To:     camba1@pacbell.net
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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: HP200LX and related
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Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I'd like to see the list please
>
> Cheers...
>
> Roger Whitmarsh
>
> Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> on 01/03/99 14:55:03
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Please
>       respond to Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: Roger Whitmarsh/New Zealand/IBM)
> Subject:  Re: FS: HP200LX and related
>
> Diconix 180si Serial Printer w/Cartridges $100 + shipping
> EtherLink III 3C589B PCMCIA 10BT & Coax   $ 90 + shipping
>
> I have old DOS programs including word processors, programming, etc. Too
> many to list here. For a list, contact:
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> | Robert K. Meyer          Day 307-324-4520     |
> | Box 57 -- 109 Alder      Eve 307-348-7348     |
> | Elk Mountain, WY 82324   bmeyer@union-tel.com |
> +-----------------------------------------------+
>
> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

Roger! I have no list I think you want Bob Meyer he has list of old dos
prog's
day 307-324-4520 eve 307 348 7348

                       Bob Elliott Jr

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:05:01 -0800
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From:         bob1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: thaddeus
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Nancy A. Barker wrote:
>
> could someone please tell me the phone number for thaddeus?
>
> thanks
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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Nancy maybe you have it already it's 1-800-737-6114

               Bob Elliott Jr

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:17:31 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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From:         "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      Re: Regarding recent thread on lost 200LX
Comments: To: "Thomas A. Frank" <tfrank9@idt.net>
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Hello.
What works even better (for me, anyway) is a LABEL taped to the back side
of the palmtop, listing your name/address/phone and a REWARD.  It is
entirely possible, depending on the state of your palmtop when you lost it
and who finds it, that the person who finds it might never be able to turn
it on, or get to a topcard.  Heaven knows, my mother wouldn't figure out
what the heck it even was.  Who knows- maybe the batteries will be dead by
the time it's found.  I used a self-adhesive mailing label, then taped
over the entire label with clear packaging tape.  Very durable.
I lost my palmtop when it slipped out of my pocket while watching July 4th
fireworks in Philadelphia, and after spending the night lying in the grass
somewhere in the dew, someone found it and contacted me.  The very kind
woman who returned it even declined the reward!
I carry my palmtop in a Ripoff case now, and I also purchased a backup
machine.  I was REALLY lost without it.

Cheers, and I hope nobody here loses his/her LX!
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:57:17 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM>
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From:         Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM>
Subject:      FS: HP 95lx, 512k, connection cable, case, etc.
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I have the following handheld for sale:

HP 95lx, 512k Memory, PC Connection Cable, carry case with
belt clip.   $125. + shipping. OBO.

I am the original owner of this handheld, it is in very good condition
with the exception of the latch which holds the lid closed, it is a little
weak from years of use.   This doesnt effect the use of the unit at all and
the only reason im parting with it is that I have a 100lx now and my 95lx
has been setting on a shelf for a while.

Please send inquiries to me via email at driden@stlnet.com.

Thanks,

Dan Ridenhour
driden@stlnet.com

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