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I've received a similar error when my disk was full.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


Please help

When attempting to setup newsgroup for download I receive error:
'error 64 in line0 of module READER"

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 20:41:09 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Modem speed
Comments: To: jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu

I meant multipling the modem speed (i.e. 14400) by 5 to get an optimal
computer to modem speed setting (i.e. 57000). The point of my question
was how much can the HPLX (double-speeded and not) handle, as far as
computer to modem speed. And hence, is it worthwhile to get a faster
modem (assuming the palmtop can't handle the data fast enough).

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


On Fri, 29 May 1998 11:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Jim Saklad
<jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> writes:
>> I was wondering, about the modem speeds that are attainable on the
HPLX.
>> I use a 14.4k PCMCIA modem & have the computer-to-modem speed set to
>> 38400. My machine is single speed. I know that others use 28.8k,
33.6k,
>> and maybe even 56k modems. Since one must multiply by something like 5
>> the modem speed to get a more true data speed, is getting anything
above
>> 14.4k overkill?
>
>Multiply by 5? Hardly!
>
>For compressed files, like downloading a .zip file, you'll do well to
get
>over 1500 bytes/sec with a 14k4.
>
>For "real-world" text, 2200 bytes/sec would be good. For text designed
for
>hardware compressibility (e.g., "abcabcabcabcabc...") you could get 3000
>bytes/sec or more.
>
>A more relevant question is how quickly the cpu can handle data coming
in
>from the serial or PCMCIA port.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 00:48:29 -0400
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I was looking at the phillips web tv keyboard and it seemed to me that if
the input of the lx was redirected from the ir port and the codes
remaped that this keyboard would work fine, it has a powerfull ir and
sells for 49.00 at wall mart. I like the idea of self contained units
without custom hardware. This keyboard also seems to have a learning
capacity as it can function as a remot control for vcr and tv.
Any thoughts?
mike

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 22:54:18 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Personal Review of LXNNTP

I too am using LXNNTP, as well as LXPOP (with the recommended PPPD packet
driver). As has been said, the setup isn't a streamlined affair, but once
it is set up right, the work is done. It then works beautifully.

My major problem with setting it up involved a specific situation with my
password. It contained a character that was reserved for PPPDs use to
comment out the remainer of a line. If I had used the debugging feature
earlier (instead of just fiddling with the *.CFG files blindly), I would
have saved myself (and those that answered my pleas for help) a lot of
grief. The solution was simple, once the problem was known.

With that problem solved, the configuration and script files given out by
Rod (the author) and Tom Hoover both worked great. Rod's version of PNR
is splendid. It is wonderful not having to drop to DOS (as I usually did
with Net-Tamer) just to read newsgroup articles and email). Not only
that, but there is plenty of memory to run many other apps at the same
time. I haven't (as many seemingly have) tried using PE as an editor, but
I find using MEMO (as it is defaulted) perfectly fine.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 03:33:02 -0400
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I was at Batteries Plus and they showed me a set of 3000
mah AA sized nimh batteries. Has anyone tried these in the
LX?

John

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:07:42 +0200
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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: LXTOOLS DOS port
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>  I've wanted a Dos/Windows command-line version of LXTOOLS to automate
>various functions since I first heard about LXTOOLS!
>
>  Please let me know where I can get a copy.  Do you plan on releasing it
>on the Super site too?

I've already emailed A. Garzotto on this topic. As soon as it's possible
I'll release the DOS port, and announce it in the list.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:10:53 +0200
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Subject:      Re: 3000 mah nimh batteries
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At 03:33 1/06/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I was at Batteries Plus and they showed me a set of 3000
>mah AA sized nimh batteries.

Just curious. How much ?.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:40:03 -0700
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              Steven English <senglish@AXS.COM.AU>
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This error message happens to me when Nettamer attempts to download a
message that is no longer on the news server. My provider only keeps
them for a day or two at most. After that whatever Nettamer downloads
produces this error message. I can always tell when the messages are bad
if the byte count is 24 or 48. However, it still manages to get the new
subject headers.

Steven English

> When attempting to setup newsgroup for download I receive error:
> 'error 64 in line0 of module READER"

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:14:30 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Backup problem with ZIP.COM
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.2.32.19980529071708.006b3ad4@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> from
              "Larry Mittell" at May 29, 98 07:17:08 am
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> When using ZIP.COM to backup the contents of my Thinfax 1414 LXM card, when
> some files are being copied, I get a rather bizarre error. When a
> particular 64KB file is in the process of being copied, for example, the
> progress indicator will overrun and tally, say, 84K and then ZIP gives an
> error message and quits.

Somewhere in the documentation, it mentions that zip can give different
length files if they are compressed (ie doublestacked etc). Relevant?
Doesn't explain the error, though.

On a different topic, zip.com doesn't work for me in System Man: I have to
quit to DOS first...


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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:03:47 -0400
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              Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>
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Brian Dnovan ÝBriTrenth@AOL.COM¨ wrote:

>With a New Media 2400 Palm modem it draws  about 200 mA idle, 340 mA
>processing.
>...
>I bought the palm modem used without software.  Where can I get the
>software?  thanks

The New Media modem is also a ROM card with the software onboard.  You should
be able to address it as drive A: in the HP 95LX.  There is terminal emulation
software as well as faxing software there.  Neither one is very highly
functional, but will do in a pinch.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:41:09 -0400
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I have a vanilla HP200LX-4Meg with a 10Meg Flash disk.  I also run Soft=
ware
Carousel.
To use my C: drive as efficiently as possible I try to keep all COM/EXE=
 and
other
Read Only files on the A: drive in my flash card.  Files that get updat=
ed I put
on my
C: ram drive.

I want to install WWW/LX Plus.  I'll run it from a DOS session, not und=
er
SysMgr.
Can I keep its Read Only files like EXE/COM, help, and fonts in a direc=
tory on
my A: drive (in the PATH) but make my current drive/directory the
C: drive where all the config files, email and newsgroup files will res=
ide?

Does WWWLX expect to have its config files, or anything else, in the sa=
me
directory
with the executables?

I'm connecting to an external modem via a serial cable if it matters.

Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:48:10 -0400
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The IR transmitter on the 200LX is pretty weak.  I tried running that T=
V remote
control program; I found that it worked
but I had to be withing arm's reach of the TV which meant it wasn't too=
 useful
as a REMOTE control.

Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:37:42 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon,  1 Jun 1998 10:17:24 -0500 (EST)

01h36m15s ago ...
On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> I want to install WWW/LX Plus.  I'll run it from a DOS session, not =
under
> SysMgr.
> Can I keep its Read Only files like EXE/COM, help, and fonts in a =
directory
> on my A: drive (in the PATH) but make my current drive/directory the
> C: drive where all the config files, email and newsgroup files will =
reside?

The email, newsgroup files, temp working files, cache, download etc.
can be put anywhere you want.  This gets set up in hv.cfg and post.cfg

> Does WWWLX expect to have its config files, or anything else, in
> the same directory with the executables?

The config files want to be in the same directory.  And, I think the
help files want to be there, too.

HTH

-PR
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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:32:37 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Strange! I can use 200LX as far as 2-2.5 meters from my TV.

Jorgen

> The IR transmitter on the 200LX is pretty weak.  I tried running that =
TV remote
> control program; I found that it worked
> but I had to be withing arm's reach of the TV which meant it wasn't too =
useful
> as a REMOTE control.
>
> Russ Brooks

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:42:43 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Happened to stop by CompUSA over the weekend (Ventura, CA) where they had
new Canon Powershot 350's marked at $299, down from the usual price of
$399. Clerk confirmed the new price on the computer and said the change
was recent.

This camera is reported to be identical to the Konica Q-Mini mentioned a
week or so ago which sounded like an excellent companion to the LX.

Still a bit pricey for me, but I thought there may be some who feel
otherwise.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:43:31 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Modem speed
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> I meant multipling the modem speed (i.e. 14400) by 5 to get an optimal
> computer to modem speed setting (i.e. 57000). The point of my question
> was how much can the HPLX (double-speeded and not) handle, as far as
> computer to modem speed. And hence, is it worthwhile to get a faster
> modem (assuming the palmtop can't handle the data fast enough).

Ah. That is more reasonable, although it may still be overkill.

I, too, have the question of just how fast the 200LX, or a doublespeed
unit, can receive data from the modem without losing bits.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:48:53 -0400
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Subject:      Re: 3000 mah nimh batteries
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> I was at Batteries Plus and they showed me a set of 3000 mah AA sized
> nimh batteries. Has anyone tried these in the LX?

The largest capacity AA batteries on their web site are 1200mah NiMH's

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:14:20 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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>
> Happened to stop by CompUSA over the weekend (Ventura, CA) where they had
> new Canon Powershot 350's marked at $299, down from the usual price of
> $399. Clerk confirmed the new price on the computer and said the change
> was recent.
>
> This camera is reported to be identical to the Konica Q-Mini mentioned a
> week or so ago which sounded like an excellent companion to the LX.

Just checked BuyComp ( http://www.buycomp.com ) and now they're listing
the same camera for $263.95 (in stock). The price gets better..

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:17:57 -0400
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              Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET>
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Com' on, it's the principle that's important.  You got it to work.
Nobody hacks up this stuff to do economically useful work ;-)

> The IR transmitter on the 200LX is pretty weak.  I tried running that TV remote
> control program; I found that it worked
> but I had to be withing arm's reach of the TV which meant it wasn't too useful
> as a REMOTE control.
>
> Russ Brooks

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Subject:      Re: 3000 mah nimh batteries

On 06-01 02:33am, you had written

-> I was at Batteries Plus and they showed me a set of 3000
-> mah AA sized nimh batteries. Has anyone tried these in the
-> LX?
->
-> John
->
        Well, I predict you are going to hit one of the record reply
counts on this one...

        So, how much do they cost, what is availability, etc.?  Where
is Batteries Plus, anyway?

        Cautionary note:  The mAH rating on any kind of battery can be
VERY misleading.  When a manufacturer assigns an Amp Hour rating, it is
based on discharge rate vs time.  For example, if I have a 1Ah battery,
I may have tested that battery at a 50mA discharge for 20 hours to
arrive at that figure.  If the same battery is tested at 200mA
discharge, I may only see 2.5 hrs of runtime till the battery has hit
its fully discharged voltage rating.  As you can see, the low discharge
rate test is meaningless for a real world application.  Generally, an
honest manufacturer will state how long the discharge time was for the
Ah rating they have assigned.  A much more realistic rating is "Watts
per Cell", which tells you how much total energy the battery can
deliver before fully discharged.  For instance, if I have a battery
that will deliver 200mA for 5hrs and the above example battery, the 2nd
will have a greater watts/cell, therefore more "usable" power even
though they would have the same "amp hour" rating.  This is an old game
the battery companies have played for years, somewhat akin to the
1970's when the stereo manufacturers would rate an amplifier's output
in peak envelope power rather than RMS power.

        Well, Caveat Emptor, eh?

 -
****************************************************
       mark beutler        mycroft@wi.tds.net

   "You live and learn.  Or you don't live long"
                                  R. A. Heinlein
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.11beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:03:39 -0400
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I'll be visiting Chicago on business this weekend and early next week.
(Actually, my hotel is out on Park Blvd.  in Itasca -- an okay area but not
exactly downtown.)

Can anyone recommend good places for palmtop-related shopping within a quick cab
ride? Also, is there a Service Merchandise nearby where I can cruise for
close-out deals on Connectivity cables and adaptors?

Thanks in advance!
Bruce
bruce_martin@manulife.com

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:05:05 -0400
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M. C. Beutler wrote:
> Laurence, did you, by any chance, measure the actual internal batt
>charger currents in 100ma and 45ma modes?

Mark
Not sure what you mean by internal battery charger currents. The figures =
I
measured (110mA & 50mA) were the current going into the batteries. I gues=
s
as I measured nothing else, then I did not measure the  internal battery
charger current.

Laurence

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:58:16 GMT
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On Fri, 29 May 1998 01:55:30 -0700, Bill Childers wrote:

>4.  Internet access is tough.  I had zero problems from Heathroe (in
>the airline lounge).  I didn't use the special dataphone, I used a
>regular payphone with my acoustic coupler, and used CIS as my ISP.
>That was the only successful connection to date.  I'm going through
>email withdrawl, it's been 6 days since I sent/received mail!  I'm also
>pissing off my wife, because I look longingly at each pay phone and
>mutter, "I wonder if that would work..."  Hopefully I'll have better
>luck in Edinburgh tomorrow...

Modem friendly phones are pretty rare over here in my experience, =
although
most phones are connected using our standard plug & socket. I'm going to
have the reverse experience in September when we visit New England for 3
weeks. I understand that modem sockets are common over your side of the
pond, so will come armed with an adaptor and a calling card for cheap
transatlantic calls!

>Last week, I had sent a mail message to the list saying I'd have a web
>page on the trip.  Well, the page is written daily, but I can't update
>it without an internet connection.  Oops...

It's a shame you aren't down south, or you could have popped in here for =
a
cup of tea and a net connection :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Subject:      Re: 3000 mah nimh batteries

> ...                                          This is an old game
> the battery companies have played for years, somewhat akin to the
> 1970's when the stereo manufacturers would rate an amplifier's output
> in peak envelope power rather than RMS power.
>
>         Well, Caveat Emptor, eh?
>
>  -
> ****************************************************
>        mark beutler        mycroft@wi.tds.net

On a related, but off topic, note, has anyone bought new computer
speakers lately. Where do they get their power ratings, from outer
space? They all say hundreds of watts output and they have the
cryptic letters P.M.P.O. after the wattage. I bought a set, nice
speakers, that are 36 watts RMS at 1.0 % THD but they claim all over
the box 360 Watts P.M.P.O. I have come the the conclusion that
P.M.P.O. stands for Purely Mythical Power Output. :-)

Pete


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I feel like a bit of an interloper here,having lurked on the list for
a few days and seen no postings for the 700lx.
However,I have to ask a couple of questions,so here goes...

Does Nettamer run on the 700lx using the built in gsm data card?.
If not are there any other programs available that do,apart from
WWW/LX which I've tried but cant justify the asking price at the moment!
(Although it really is a great program).

Regarding flash cards,has anyone managed to get their 200lx/700lx to use
intel style flash cards and if so what do I need to use them?.


Many thanks daz

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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Jim Krist wrote:

> Com' on, it's the principle that's important.  You got it to work.
> Nobody hacks up this stuff to do economically useful work ;-)


Yeah.  For instance I used it to tease my wife.  We generally
climb into bed an hour or so before bedtime.  She watches TV
and I read Usenet.  I surreptitiously taught my 200LX a few
of her remote's commands and started manipulating the TV one
evening.  I was prepared for a lot of fun, but unfortunately
she twigged almost immediately.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> Does Nettamer run on the 700lx using the built in gsm data card?.
> If not are there any other programs available that do,apart from

Goin' Postal runs on the 700LX with a couple of simple additions
to GP.BAT (to turn the internal modem on and off).

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I *live* near Itasca and have found no stores that carry much lx stuff,
except CDW in Vernon Hills, which is a national mailorder place too.  The
Service Merchandise stores near here don't have anything.  So, I'd like to
know where to go too!

Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 11:14 AM
Subject: Chicago area shopping?


>I'll be visiting Chicago on business this weekend and early next week.
>(Actually, my hotel is out on Park Blvd.  in Itasca -- an okay area but not
>exactly downtown.)
>
>Can anyone recommend good places for palmtop-related shopping within a
quick cab
>ride? Also, is there a Service Merchandise nearby where I can cruise for
>close-out deals on Connectivity cables and adaptors?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>Bruce
>bruce_martin@manulife.com

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:39:40 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Nettamer and 700lx

On 06-01 08:08pm,


Hi!

> I feel like a bit of an interloper here,having lurked on the list for
> a few days and seen no postings for the 700lx.
> However,I have to ask a couple of questions,so here goes...

There arn't many... :-) Search the archives. It seems that it is only people
living out of America that have it. The USA doesn't have GSM.

Nettamer was run once or twice, but I didn't get the www part to run. Very
big, I like Goin' Postal better.

Remember to put SERCTL/P for the built-in DTP-2 card from Nokia. SERCTL/O to
turn off otherwise it will drain your batteries. Set up for com1.

>
> Does Nettamer run on the 700lx using the built in gsm data card?.
> If not are there any other programs available that do,apart from
> WWW/LX which I've tried but cant justify the asking price at the moment!
> (Although it really is a great program).

Goin' Postal, the best so far. It brings a big grin to my face dl my mail on
an XT. Nobody believes me!

And GP gets better and better... :-) Try it out!

Look at PNR too, I just got lxnntp to fetch a newsgroup under a GP shell!
Wow!

Have a nice day!

Franklin

At the moment: HP 200LX + external 14.4 modem + Goin' Postal!
otherwise: Omnigo 700LX + Nokia 2110 + Goin' Postal!

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.11beta) EVALUATION

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:12:03 -0700
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Call Your One Stop Palmtop Shop in Wisconsin or see if there is a
MicroCenter nearby.

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Chicago area shopping?


>I *live* near Itasca and have found no stores that carry much lx stuff,
>except CDW in Vernon Hills, which is a national mailorder place too.  The
>Service Merchandise stores near here don't have anything.  So, I'd like to
>know where to go too!
>
>Kurt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 11:14 AM
>Subject: Chicago area shopping?
>
>
>>I'll be visiting Chicago on business this weekend and early next week.
>>(Actually, my hotel is out on Park Blvd.  in Itasca -- an okay area but
not
>>exactly downtown.)
>>
>>Can anyone recommend good places for palmtop-related shopping within a
>quick cab
>>ride? Also, is there a Service Merchandise nearby where I can cruise for
>>close-out deals on Connectivity cables and adaptors?
>>
>>Thanks in advance!
>>Bruce
>>bruce_martin@manulife.com
>
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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:13:58 +1200
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Subject:      Re: exm files?

   >I just found a diskette for the HP100lx that is full of exm files.
   >Can someone give me a simple explanation of exm vs. exe.
   >tia
   >--
   >73
   >Nick Marsh
   >WB4SQI

If you use moreexm and exm launcher (available on super
(www.palmtop.net/super.html)), you can highlight *.exm files from
filer and run them. I think Buddy (also on super) does this too.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:19:26 -0700
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Bingo! You hit the nail on the head, Brendan. I had completely forgotten
that I had compressed the files in question with Diet. It just goes to show
you how transparent Diet is. I haven't unconpressed the files yet to test
your hypothesis, but I'm all but certain that'll make the problem go away.

Thanks!
Larry Mittell

At 10:14 PM 6/1/98 +1000, you wrote:
>> When using ZIP.COM to backup the contents of my Thinfax 1414 LXM card, when
>> some files are being copied, I get a rather bizarre error. When a
>> particular 64KB file is in the process of being copied, for example, the
>> progress indicator will overrun and tally, say, 84K and then ZIP gives an
>> error message and quits.
>
>Somewhere in the documentation, it mentions that zip can give different
>length files if they are compressed (ie doublestacked etc). Relevant?
>Doesn't explain the error, though.
>
>On a different topic, zip.com doesn't work for me in System Man: I have to
>quit to DOS first...
>
>
>--
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> 10. "Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a
> trap."
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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:37:32 -0700
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I don't have a solution to your problem, but I can verify that AOL 1.6 runs
fine from my EXP card modem, so you definitely don't have to use an external
model.  I did not add any additional program beyond what is in the AOL
palmtop version software.  It is not a great setup, since most of the
service requires windows, but it does work fine for email.

--Tim in Frisco

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: AOL1.6 with card modem


>I am attempting to run AOL 1.6 on my 200LX (double speed, memory upgrade).
>The read.me says not possible, must use an external modem.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:59:14 -0400
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Hi

Does anyone use a multiple config util?

I found one Dynaboot(freeware) 1989 vintage that I used on my OLD
laptop...Dos 5.0 It allows multi config choices on startup similar to DOS 6.X

If anyone wants it message me and I'll send it

Cheers

Russell

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Yes, the config has to be in the same subdirectory where the
executable is.
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> I was at Batteries Plus and they showed me a set of 3000 mah
AA sized
> nimh batteries. Has anyone tried these in the LX?

The largest capacity AA batteries on their web site are 1200mah
NiMH's

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I'm using 1300mah batteries now that I got from batteries
plus. I think you have to visit the stores if you have one
in your area. Check 'em out.

John

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:31:44 -0400
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Does anyone have any experience of using
Simple Technologies' flashcard in 200LX?

Does it read/write fast? Does it waste power?
Any comments would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Yujin

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:47:49 -0400
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> I used it to tease my wife.  We generally climb into bed an hour or so
> before bedtime.  She watches TV and I read Usenet.  I surreptitiously
> taught my 200LX a few of her remote's commands and started manipulating
> the TV one evening.  I was prepared for a lot of fun, but unfortunately
> she twigged almost immediately.

You could set up appointments that ran a macro that sent signals to the TV
"no hands" -- to turn it on, off, change channels, mute, whatever....

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:53:01 -0400
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Am I correct that MaxDOS will help me maximize a DOS session *under System
Manager*, but NOT a separate, independent, pure DOS session under Software
Carousel?

If I need more space in a "pure" DOS session under SC, I have to look to
tailoring TSR's and the like?

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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:56:19 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Simple Tech Flash card
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> Does anyone have any experience of using
> Simple Technologies' flashcard in 200LX?
>
> Does it read/write fast? Does it waste power?

I have been using a "new technology" Simple Tech 80MB card, but only for
about a week or so. It seems almost as fast in read/write as my
unaccelerated 200LX was, but it is to soon to speak to power consumption.
I *think* it is looking like power consumption is low.

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 16:09:40 -0400
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At 07:31 PM 6/1/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone have any experience of using
>Simple Technologies' flashcard in 200LX?
>
>Does it read/write fast? Does it waste power?
>Any comments would be appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>Yujin

Yujin,

I've been using a SimpleTech Flash in my 200lx for a couple of months
now, and it works great. Performance is only slightly slower than the
internal drive (C:), and my batteries (Energizer Lithiums) need to be
replaced about a week sooner than without the card. I average an hour
or so a day of accessing the card. A pair of the batteries will last
5-6 weeks.

If you decide to go with it, I'd STRONGLY recommend getting the desktop
PC card reader. It costs about $100.00 for the internal version (here in
the US)
and makes transferring files and backing up so simple that I'll never go back
to a cable again.

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Bruce

While there are some of the big computer chains nearby - CompUSA, etc, I do
not think that there are any palmtop hot spots anywhere near the hotel. (I
don't know that there are any in Chicago!) The chains are probably a 15-20
minute cab ride, but you better make sure about getting back to the hotel.
It is not an area that you can just stick your hand out and yell "TAXI". In
fact I am not sure how easy it is to get a cab at the hotel.

You are near the Woodfield Mall which is a great shopping mall, and there
may be a shuttle from the hotel. There are no computer stores there, however.

As fas as Service Merchandise, you may have to wait until you get there. I
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On 05-27 03:53pm, you had written

-> > ...                                          This is an old game
-> > the battery companies have played for years, somewhat akin to the
-> > 1970's when the stereo manufacturers would rate an amplifier's output
-> > in peak envelope power rather than RMS power.
-> >
->
-> On a related, but off topic, note, has anyone bought new computer
-> speakers lately. Where do they get their power ratings, from outer
-> space? They all say hundreds of watts output and they have the
-> cryptic letters P.M.P.O. after the wattage. I bought a set, nice
-> speakers, that are 36 watts RMS at 1.0 % THD but they claim all over
-> the box 360 Watts P.M.P.O. I have come the the conclusion that
-> P.M.P.O. stands for Purely Mythical Power Output. :-)
->
-> Peter W. Borders


Umm, I'd say this is exactly what I was talking about.  The FCC stepped
in during the 70's and forced the manufacturers to conform to a
standard so that consumers had some small chance of comparing oranges
to oranges, so to speak.  However, if this is a "computer peripheral",
not audio equipment, then they are free to use RMS, Peak, or PEP power
in their specs without stating which they are refering to.  Naturally,
they will refer to PEP, which turns a mere 10 watt RMS amplifier into a
HUGE, powerful, 28 watt PEP amp.  Same real world power, but much nicer
numbers for the seller...

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Just received my HP Palmtop Paper.  Large advert for Software Carousel
and Super Software Carousel in the multipage flyer.  Has anyone tried
the "Super" Carousel?  Is it worth the extra $60.00?

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Nagasawa san

I've used them for the last couple years
and they seem to be OK.   The bigger
the figure, the better I like her (louis Primer).

Hear of a good deal?

yor pal al.................................

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Russ

I'd like to have a copy, please.
Thanks a bunch.

yor pal al.................................

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Hi guys

About Chicago, are there enough LX palmtoppers
within reasonable commute distance to the loop
for a summer weekend get together for user meet/beer/BS ?
Out of towners for a weekend are welcome.
There is a giant food bust here on the forth of JUL week.

A show of hands pls.

yor pal al.........................

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Hi guys

About Chicago, are there enough LX palmtoppers
within reasonable commute distance to the loop
for a summer weekend get together for user meet/beer/BS ?

A show of hands pls.

yor pal al.........................

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Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> Am I correct that MaxDOS will help me maximize a DOS session *under System
> Manager*, but NOT a separate, independent, pure DOS session under Software
> Carousel?

Being a real new newbie with the lx stuff I find the need to ask another
question, which I didn't see on the lx faq.

Is System Manager like Filer on the 95LX, sort of a DOS shell app?

73

Nick Marsh
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At 09:58 PM 5/30/98 -0500, you wrote:

>I have been a HP user since the first HP-95 but switch to Palm Pilot

>several months ago.  After many crashes, specially while traveling, I

>decide to go back to my old HP-200LX.  Is there any program that can

>migrate my Pilot phone, agenda and to-do-list to the HP-200?  Any

>suggestions to do it?


An option that occurs to me is that you take in intermediate step, and migrate your Pilot  files over to your desktop PC, and then from your desktop to the 200LX.  IntelliSync (which now comes free with the LX, but you have to pay for it if you're a Pilot user, which amuses me) can do both, I think.

        James

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At 10:51 PM 5/29/1998 -0400, Ken A. Moore wrote:
>I use the 12v from my cigarette lighter for an LX100 and 200 twice daily
for over an hour...
 _______________

I have been using a generic multi volt output ac/DC adapter  for a month or
so and all of the sudden my screen has blocks of dark & light, no
correlation to teh normal screen images on opening (95LX) - the voltage
switch was set incorrectly to 6v ( maybe the kids, maybe the dogs?  too
late now - no image at all on 3v.  Time to upgrade finally to a 200LX or is
there a simple fix? (not that this unit was problem free anyway - I've been
getting bat battery messages for a year or so - even with fresh batts -
hence the adapter...

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>I still have a 95LX 1mb model available for sale. It has no problems other
>than two lost legs and the screws that sit above them. Included also: a/c
>adapter, pc card data/fax modem, manuals, serial cable.
,,,,,
>Regards,

>Ian C. Melville
>imelv@tstt.net.tt
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Ian - my 95 just died the death - let me know if you still have yours &
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> On 05-27 03:53pm, you had written
> ->they have the
> -> cryptic letters P.M.P.O. after the wattage. I bought a set, nice
> -> speakers, that are 36 watts RMS at 1.0 % THD but they claim all over
> -> the box 360 Watts P.M.P.O. I have come the the conclusion that
> -> P.M.P.O. stands for Purely Mythical Power Output. :-)
> ->
> -> Peter W. Borders
>

Had to think about that one for a while.  PMPO stands for "Peak Music
Power Output".  An even more misleading term.  It refers to what the
amp can put out max for some tiny amount of time (like microseconds).
This supposedly shows what the amp can do during a "music peak".  In
the real world, this never happens, since no musical note lasts such a
short time.

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James,


Thank you very much for the information.  I migrate using lynn m.
cavendish's suggestion GDBLOAD with excelent results.  I shure would like
to have IntelliSync to work with. I am considering buying a 32MB HP-200.
Does anyone knows if IntelliSync comes with it?


Best regards,



At 11:10 PM 01/06/98 -0400, James Scheffler wrote:

>>>>

<excerpt>At 09:58 PM 5/30/98 -0500, you wrote:

>I have been a HP user since the first HP-95 but switch to Palm Pilot

>several months ago.  After many crashes, specially while traveling, I

>decide to go back to my old HP-200LX.  Is there any program that can

>migrate my Pilot phone, agenda and to-do-list to the HP-200?  Any

>suggestions to do it?


An option that occurs to me is that you take in intermediate step, and
migrate your Pilot  files over to your desktop PC, and then from your
desktop to the 200LX.  IntelliSync (which now comes free with the LX, but
you have to pay for it if you're a Pilot user, which amuses me) can do
both, I think.

        James

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Are there any attempts to write a system manager compliant packet radio
program.

73 de Andreas, DC3AFA

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Hmm.. (and the wheels begin turning..)  Not a bad idea, BayCom modem
of course..

> Are there any attempts to write a system manager compliant packet radio
> program.
>
> 73 de Andreas, DC3AFA
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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:04:49 -0700
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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience of using
> Simple Technologies' flashcard in 200LX?

I use a 8 meg card from simple tech

>
> Does it read/write fast?
About two and one half time the speed  of the "c" drive ramdisk to load or
save anything.  Not anywhere that bothers me.

> Does it waste power?
Don't really know I've always used it. My battery life seems fine. About 3
weeks to 4 weeks.

> Any comments would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Yujin
>
> ----------
> Yujin Nagasawa
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
> E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>             QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:04:45 +1000
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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Just as an adjunct to fax software sizes, I have used a MicroFax 144
external fax-modem for the last 3 years and it is the perfect companion to a
HP100LX 1meg.

It has all of the following features in a package only 6cmx11cmx2cm
-has a serial to parallel converter built in, HP laser, inkjet or IBM
Proprinter emulation).
-requires no fax software to send an ASCII fax as you just create your fax
in memo, put FAX at the start and make sure that the first numbers
encountered in the message are the number you wish to dial.
-will receive faxes and print them directly to the connected printer or
store up to 15 pages for later retrieval without having to be connected to
my palmtop.
-will work with most comms and fax programs, uses standard Hayes commands.
-can be powered by either a plug-in AC adaptor or a plug-in battery
power-pack which uses 4 AA batteries.
-can be set to automatically forward faxes to a predetermined number.
-you can remotely retrieve faxes, password protected.
-Class 2 faxing up to 14400.
-data modem up to 14400.

Another review can be read at
http://www.maths.uts.edu.au/staff/eric/computer/palmtops/microfax.htm

I checked the web for the information on MicroFax and the only evidence I
could find of the m was in UK.

Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location -
www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/lookup_key.asp
Melbourne, Australia

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You said:
>>"I was wondering if anyone out there has tried the Newton Keyboard outfitted
>>for the HP200lx.  I am thinking of buying one from Shier.  But first I wanted
>>to get some first hand impressions of the external keyboard.  Is the typing
>>feel good and is it worth the money ($130)?
I've tried and I like it. Very much faster if you can touch type. Though half
my fun was making the connector myself (bought the unmodified version for about
U$100) ... years since i've touched a soldering iron.
jaze

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Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Does anyone use a multiple config util?
>
> I found one Dynaboot(freeware) 1989 vintage that I used on my OLD
> laptop...Dos 5.0 It allows multi config choices on startup similar to DOS 6.X
>
> If anyone wants it message me and I'll send it
>
> Cheers
>
> Russell

Hi Rusell,

I'd appreciate receiving a copy of Dynaboot!

Thanks,

- g

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Hi Greg.
I'm in Melbourne to.
Are you still using this fax,
do you know if it's still available somewhere?
Did you try it with internet?

best regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Subject:      700lx (was Re: Nettamer and 700lx)

On 06-01 11:08am,  Darren Marshall wrote :


> I feel like a bit of an interloper here,having lurked on the list for
> a few days and seen no postings for the 700lx.
If you have any specific 700lx related questions, I would like to help
answering them (Email me privately). I use 700lx most of the time, when there
is no GSM network available I revert back to my 200lx.

>
> Does Nettamer run on the 700lx using the built in gsm data card?.
> If not are there any other programs available that do,apart from
> WWW/LX which I've tried but cant justify the asking price at the moment!
> (Although it really is a great program).
>
> Regarding flash cards,has anyone managed to get their 200lx/700lx to use
> intel style flash cards and if so what do I need to use them?.
Both my 700lx and 200lx has 2 meg, I use 1414LXM 4 meg flash and modem combo card to ease the memory squeeze on my C drive and use it when I can
find a phone socket.

Recently added Kingston 64mb ATA flash, loaded with lots of DOS
programs which may not be possible to store on the C drive. For email
try GOIN' POSTAL, I even run it from the flash card on my 700lx.

Cheers.


Chin Jien Hung                        o__
jhchin@pacific.net.sg                _.>/)_
jienhung@singnet.com.sg             (_) \(_)
Mobile Fax : (65) 96763957

This message was send from a HP 700LX Palmtop with NOKIA cellular phone.
Small, mobile and extremely efficient :-D
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.11beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:07:22 +1000
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David Lawrence wrote:
>
> Hi listmembers,
>
> I have a 200LX 2meg serial SG60....
>
> I want to increase the c: drive capacity but don't want to have
> to use a software driver, ie; I want stone-axe reliability like a
> std 200LX as I am constantly evaluating software and rebooting
> with Shift + Ctrl + On and have a few times had to reset the C:
> drive, so I am looking for something like the LX with 4meg?
>
> I know (from this list) there are a number of mem upgrade paths,
> and I want the simplest, ie; plug in 2meg to bring mine to 4meg
> total.
>
> Any and all help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
David I have been following the recent discussions on memory
upgrades. What did you decide to do?
With the Kiwi and Aussie dollars in the duldrums.....

If I go for the Times-2-Tech double speed upgrade with 4REM
the cost is AUS$500 including return freight,
the same with 32RAM is $1000!!!!
I can almost get a new 360LX for that.

But I love my old 200LX so much......
I would really be interested in what you are contemplating.
Mine is a 2MEG SG50.....series

Regards

Alex Baker

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:42:40 +1200
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              Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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>Date:    Sun, 31 May 1998 16:09:40 -0400
>From:    John McDonald <johnmcd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
>Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash card
>
>If you decide to go with it, I'd STRONGLY recommend getting the desktop
>PC card reader. It costs about $100.00 for the internal version (here in
>the US)
>and makes transferring files and backing up so simple that I'll never go
back
>to a cable again.
>
>John McDonald

Do you use compression on your Flash card & if so what do you use? I have
problems with Stacker 3.0 since it will not work under Windows 95 and I do
not have the drivers to use the PC card drive on my notebook computer.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:47:37 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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In-Reply-To:  <3.0.2.32.19980601141926.00703a70@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> from
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> Bingo! You hit the nail on the head, Brendan. I had completely forgotten
> that I had compressed the files in question with Diet. It just goes to show
> you how transparent Diet is.
How cool was that!? A complete guess!


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:31:14 -0500
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              "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Subject:      Doule post & 3000 mAh batts

Sorry about the double post. DDDDDDon't KKKKKKnow WWWWhat happened...

-
****************************************************
     mark beutler        mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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   >Russell Hemery wrote:
   >> Hi
   >> Does anyone use a multiple config util?
   >> I found one Dynaboot(freeware) 1989 vintage that I used on my OLD
   >> laptop...Dos 5.0 It allows multi config choices on startup
   >> similar to DOS 6.X >
   >> If anyone wants it message me and I'll send it
   >> Cheers
   >> Russell

Perhaps you could send it to Mitch at super if you get too many
individuals asking for your email time.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Does anyone know of a Spanish-English-Spanish Dictionary for the HPLX?  Any
hints as to where (ala websites) that I might find such software?  Since I
work with Maquilladoras frequently it would help tremendously.   It would
be great if I could add words to it as well.
Regards,
Jim Johnson
Carmel, Indiana USA

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Gene Johnson wrote:
>
> At 10:51 PM 5/29/1998 -0400, Ken A. Moore wrote:
> >I use the 12v from my cigarette lighter for an LX100 and 200 twice daily
> for over an hour...
>  _______________
>
> I have been using a generic multi volt output ac/DC adapter  for a month or
> so and all of the sudden my screen has blocks of dark & light, no
> correlation to teh normal screen images on opening (95LX) - the voltage
> switch was set incorrectly to 6v ( maybe the kids, maybe the dogs?  too
> late now - no image at all on 3v.  Time to upgrade finally to a 200LX or is
> there a simple fix? (not that this unit was problem free anyway - I've been
> getting bat battery messages for a year or so - even with fresh batts -
> hence the adapter...
>
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Sounds like you blew the CMOS chips in the palmtop on the undervolt.
These, unfortunately include the Hornet, memory, and support (or glue)
chips. There really wouldent be a quick fix for that.

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:35:02 -0700
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Simple Technology PC Cards
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This is in response to recent questions we have received concerning Simple
Technology flash cards, desktop readers and modems. It is not intended to be
an advertisement as much as it is a general statement of functionality to
interested parties.
>
Simple and Kingston are the only companies with high capacity, dual voltage
cards on the market at the moment, other than SanDisk. Viking has not begun
production of them.
>
Our experience to date is that the Simple cards draw less power and will
work with the built in ROM driver on the 200LX. They will work with the
100LX and the AceCard driver posted here from time to time. The cards will
also work in OmniBook 425/430/530 series notebooks, but the 300 cannot
recognize cards in excess of 40MB due to a different BIOS and card driver.
The AceCard driver might work, be we do not support it.
>
Card capacities are UNCOMPRESSED but will work with compression, such as
Stacker 3/4.0. Note that compression will slow down the card's performance
somewhat and will increase the amount of power consumed during write/erase
operations.
>
Transfer rates from card to 200LX memory and read times are approximately
the same as from the 200LX's internal memory. Read-only operations are
faster by a factor of 1.5-2.0 times because of the ATA interface.
>
The cards do have a minor impact on battery life, though not significant.
The extent of the impact depends on the number of write/erase cycles
performed and the size of the files accessed. The Simple cards generally
consume 0.6mA in sleep mode and use 22-34mA in each write/erase cycle, per
Simple's specifications.
>
The smaller 16, 24 and 32MB cards are actually CompactFlash cards that are
shipped with a Type 2 PC Card adapter. They can be used in digital cameras
that have a CF Card slot or notebook/desktop computer similarly equipped. No
additional drivers are necessary.
>
Effective 08Jun98, we will begin shipping 48MB CF cards with a PC Card
adapter, too.
>
Larger capacity cards such as 96/160MB cards are only available in a PC Card
format. These can be used in any digital camera with a PC Card slot or
notebook/desktop computers similarly equipped.
>
A desktop PC Card docking station is available for $119 from Simple
Technology. There is an internal and external version available. The Simple
Station will work with any desktop system provided a free ISA slot is
available. It will support Win 3.x, 95, 98, NT and CE. Systems that do not
have Plug'n'Play capability can use the Card and Socket Services drivers
provided with the Simple Station.
>
Simple's 33.6 modem is also 200LX compatible. We do not know if it will work
with the 100LX as there is some question as to the ROM driver. Nevertheless,
the Simple modem is low power (175mA) and has been reported by users to be
compatible with the 200LX.
>
Shore Systems resells both Simple cards and other products such as the
Simple Station and modems. We are located in Belmont Shore, CA and work
closely with Simple and Viking on development of products for handheld
computers, including all HP palmtops. Please contact us privately via email,
not this forum, for more information.

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From: Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 02 June, 1998 01:09
Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash card


>>Date:    Sun, 31 May 1998 16:09:40 -0400
>>From:    John McDonald <johnmcd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
>>Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash card
>>
>>If you decide to go with it, I'd STRONGLY recommend getting the desktop
>>PC card reader. It costs about $100.00 for the internal version (here in
>>the US)
>>and makes transferring files and backing up so simple that I'll never go
>back
>>to a cable again.
>>
>>John McDonald
>
>Do you use compression on your Flash card & if so what do you use? I have
>problems with Stacker 3.0 since it will not work under Windows 95 and I do
>not have the drivers to use the PC card drive on my notebook computer.
>
>Regards,
>Stefan Lombaard
>
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> Perhaps you could send it to Mitch at super if you get too many
> individuals asking for your email time.

This is always an option for anything the group feels is a needed
addition to our "arsenal". That is why SUPER is there.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:37:18 -0400
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>From: David C Smalley <dsmalley@JUNO.COM>
>The point of my question
>was how much can the HPLX (double-speeded and not) handle, as far as
>computer to modem speed. And hence, is it worthwhile to get a faster
>modem (assuming the palmtop can't handle the data fast enough).

I have a single speed HP200LX-4Meg.  While connected via serial cable t=
o my
desktop using the connection pack's LapLink I have the maximum baud rat=
e of
115200.

The internal cc:Mail application seems to have a hardcoded limit of 192=
00 even
though it appears I could connect faster.

I think there are 2 parts to this question.  The one you asked concerns=
 the
serial link baud rate and that doesn't appear to have any limit.
The other question is "Can application 'xxx' on the single/double speed=
  HPLX
keep up a serial connection of nn baud?".

I'm just starting to play with WWW/LX Plus.  It appears to allow higher=
 serial
speeds than cc:Mail so it may be worth while for me to connect to my v9=
0 modem
vs. the 14.4 that I normally use.  I'll know more in a couple of days a=
fter my
upgrade registration is finished.

Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:56:24 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Regarding flash cards,has anyone managed to get their 200lx/700lx to use
intel style flash cards and if so what do I need to use them?.

For Intel-style flash cards, you need to run a driver. The most common ones are
MS-FLASH.SYS and TFFS.COM

Sorry Daz, I don't have copies of these, but perhaps some kind soul reading
this...

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:10:53 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Chicago area shopping?
Comments: To: Hobchi@AOL.COM

Ahmet G. Ozisik is trying to establish an HPLX user's group in
Illinois/Chicago area.  He tried to set up an initial meeting this last
Sunday (5/31).  I don't know how it went, I was out of the country on that
day.   Contact him for more details. You might save some legwork and time.
You can reach him at  ago@ibm.net

Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
1400 West Park Street
Urbana, IL   61801

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Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Chicago area shopping?


>Hi guys
>
>About Chicago, are there enough LX palmtoppers
>within reasonable commute distance to the loop
>for a summer weekend get together for user meet/beer/BS ?
A show of hands pls.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:13:37 EDT
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Nestor

Do you know Hugh Savage at Mercy?
He LOVES his palmtop.

hsavage313@aol.com
Drop him a note and share.
Hey that's four people in the area.

yor pal al...................................

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:36:11 -0700
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Today I got a big catalog from Thaddeus with a two-page spread on what
Super Software Carousel is.  Basically, it's a CD which has on it their new
7.0 version of SC (which now "supports different device drivers in
different sessions" and "includes an improved electronic User's Guide")
plus preconfigured HDM work areas and lots of freeware and shareware apps.
You end up getting a "Games" session with all sorts of games, a "Programs"
session, a "Utilities" session...

Prices are $19.95 for the upgrade from old SC to new SC 7.0, $79.95 for a
new copy of SC 7.0, $79.95 for the upgrade from SC to Super SC, and $139.95
for a new copy of Super SC.
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Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:29:25 -0400
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              John McDonald <johnmcd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Simple Tech Flash card
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At 07:42 PM 6/2/98 +1200, you wrote:
>
>Do you use compression on your Flash card & if so what do you use? I have
>problems with Stacker 3.0 since it will not work under Windows 95 and I do
>not have the drivers to use the PC card drive on my notebook computer.
>
>Regards,
>Stefan Lombaard
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Stefan,

No, I don't use compression. With the relatively low cost of FLASH storage
these days compared to the very high cost of my time fixing problems
(not to mention my sanity), I can't justify compressing the card to myself.

Obviously, your mileage may vary!

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:53:44 PDT
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              Andreas Terzis <andreas_terzis@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Hi there,

I'm interested in that utility.  Can you send me more info?  Could you
please reply to my other address:   terzis@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance,
Andreas

>Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:59:14 -0400
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
>From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
>Subject:      multiple config util
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>Hi
>
>Does anyone use a multiple config util?
>
>I found one Dynaboot(freeware) 1989 vintage that I used on my OLD
>laptop...Dos 5.0 It allows multi config choices on startup similar to
DOS 6.X
>
>If anyone wants it message me and I'll send it
>
>Cheers
>
>Russell
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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:56:24 -0400, Bruce Martin wrote:

>Regarding flash cards,has anyone managed to get their 200lx/700lx to use
>intel style flash cards and if so what do I need to use them?.
>
>For Intel-style flash cards, you need to run a driver. The most common =
ones are
>MS-FLASH.SYS and TFFS.COM
>
>Sorry Daz, I don't have copies of these, but perhaps some kind soul =
reading
>this...

The full TFFS zip file is 498k, but if anyone needs it I could mail it =
out.
Alternatively, I've created a smaller zip of 79k, which contains enough =
for
an HP200 user.

If people need it, I'll wait a few days and send it in one hit to avoid
multiple long uploads :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:21:29 -0400
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              Israel Tokayer <itokayer@ARACNET.NET>
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A few months ago I questioned this group about the HP F1027 accessory cradle.
Well, I now own one. And it's exactly the same as the "95 Station" you
mentioned.
It also has a connector on the opposite side, to accept accessory devices,
which I've never seen.
Hoping this satisfies your curiosity

Jeffcom.

Patrick West wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I was at Dr. Telasha's office Wednesday. He has a 95lx.  Anyways
> he has a "95 Station" on his desk.
> It is a little docking staion for the Palmtop. Has both power supply and
> serial connection and a little shelve to set the palmtop on.
>
> Does anyone know of a like device for the 200lx?  I have an AC adapter and
> a lx to pc cable but the little docking station is much nicer.
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:27:12 -0400
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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From:         Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Car Adapter/voltage!
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At 06:50 AM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Sounds like you blew the CMOS chips in the palmtop on the undervolt.
>These, unfortunately include the Hornet, memory, and support (or glue)
>chips. There really wouldent be a quick fix for that.

From what I've seen, it appears that the power supply on the 200LX is
rather immune to blows from outside sources.  I recall hearing about a list
member plugging an adapter with an AC output (!) into a 100LX.  It fried
the adapter-in side of the power supply, but nothing else.  I do know that
Mack will fix power supplies, so it'd be worth a shot to see if he could do
anything about it.  If so, it'd be cheaper than replacing the palmtop.
It'd almost be cheaper than buying an email client grammar checker. (hint..
hint.. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:30:01 PDT
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              Andreas Terzis <andreas_terzis@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Comments: To: mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM
Content-Type: text/plain

What's Super Carousel?  If anyone cares to reply, please use my other
address:   terzis@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Andreas

>Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:51:28 -0500
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>              "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
>From:         "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
>Subject:      Software Carousel/Super Carousel
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>Just received my HP Palmtop Paper.  Large advert for Software Carousel
>and Super Software Carousel in the multipage flyer.  Has anyone tried
>the "Super" Carousel?  Is it worth the extra $60.00?
>
>-
>****************************************************
>     mark beutler        mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
>
>   "You live and learn.  Or you don't live long"
>                                  R. A. Heinlein
>****************************************************
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.11beta) REGISTERED
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              Andreas Terzis <andreas_terzis@HOTMAIL.COM>
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How can I get the free IntelliSync? If you could let me know I'd
appreciate it.  Please respond to my other address:   terzis@hotmail.com

Thanks,
Andreas

>Date:         Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:10:01 -0400
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>              James Scheffler <jscheffl@BBN.COM>
>From:         James Scheffler <jscheffl@BBN.COM>
>Subject:      Re: Palm Pilot to HP-200
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>At 09:58 PM 5/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>I have been a HP user since the first HP-95 but switch to Palm Pilot
>
>>several months ago.  After many crashes, specially while traveling, I
>
>>decide to go back to my old HP-200LX.  Is there any program that can
>
>>migrate my Pilot phone, agenda and to-do-list to the HP-200?  Any
>
>>suggestions to do it?
>
>
>An option that occurs to me is that you take in intermediate step, and
migrate your Pilot  files over to your desktop PC, and then from your
desktop to the 200LX.  IntelliSync (which now comes free with the LX,
but you have to pay for it if you're a Pilot user, which amuses me) can
do both, I think.
>
>        James
>
>James Scheffler
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>
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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:22:00 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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They, Microfax, used to be in Sydney but the only reference to them I could
find was in the UK I think. Search the Internet to see if you can find them.
The link I put in my original message gave some more info on their current
whereabouts.

http://www.maths.uts.edu.au/staff/eric/computer/palmtops/microfax.htm


Yes, I can access the Internet with it.
Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
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www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/lookup_key.asp



-----Original Message-----
From:   HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of Alain
Psyche
Sent:   Tuesday, June 02, 1998 4:00 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Fax Software sizes

Hi Greg.
I'm in Melbourne to.
Are you still using this fax,
do you know if it's still available somewhere?
Did you try it with internet?

best regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:44:10 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> At 06:50 AM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >From what I've seen, it appears that the power supply on the 200LX is
> rather immune to blows from outside sources.  I recall hearing about a list

It's not that immune, my friend in the U.K. managed to hurt the 100LX
that I gave him.  He bought a 12v regulated supply which was mismarked
and output a nice regulated 18v!  Now it sits there when charging
is enabled and alternates between "charging enabled" and "charging
disabled".  He's in the process of getting some kind of compensation
for the damage.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:53:52 +0000
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From:         Nelson Naspitz <nnaspitz@HOTMAIL.COM>
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 >For Intel-style flash cards, you need to run a driver. The most
common ones are
 >MS-FLASH.SYS and TFFS.COM

 >Sorry Daz, I don't have copies of these, but perhaps some kind soul
reading >this...

I have the MS-FLASH.SYS as well  the MEMCARD.EXE, a utility to
format and make partitions and the DBLFLASH.EXE to compress the data.
If someone is interest please e-mail.
Nelson



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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:05:51 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I've just put SC back in use and was wondering if anybody has experienced
problems with the built-in 1-2-3 from within a SC session?

I'm  trying to figure out how to use @base, and am having trouble
getting 1-2-3 to load files.  The problem disappears when unloading SC.

Anybody have any experience with this?





Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:40:49 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Subject:      123 @Base
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Folks,

What is 123@base?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:53:35 -0400
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   >What is 123@base?
Message-Id: <19980603105416.QBHV14006@Ý12.64.39.209¨>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:54:16 +0000

@base is a 123 add-on module that allows 123 to directly access and
manipulate database info in .dbf (Dbase) format.

The version that runs on the LX sells for about $70.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:56:38 EDT
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Andreas

Yes I would like a copy of the multi-config.

Thanks

yor pal a l....................

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:58:47 -0500
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David

bah humburg
I havent gotten the first on to work yet.

yor pal al..................

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Hi Andreas

I would like a copy of your multi-config too.

Thanks in advance.

jien hung

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:47:42 -0700
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I was reading the May '98 issue of PC World and a little insert on
page 130 really got me interested. It talks about a package called "En
Route North America", which can give turn-by-turn directions.
Unfortunately, it runs on the Psion Series 5. I checked Psion's web
site to see if it can be run on the HP200LX. However, I couldn't even
find any reference to it. Does anyone have a clue? It would be cool if
I could get it as a companion to Automap. Thanks.


Ron

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:20:15 -0700
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This was in CSP, for those interested in recycled HP95LX's.

- Longden

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:31:52 -0700
From: Kendel McCarley <kendelm@ece.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: FS: HP95LX - $50 shipped

I've got two HP95LX palmtop computers for sale.  Both of them have screen
problems, but I will include a good working screen with each.  If you're
willing to do the work of replacing the screen, you can have one or both
for $50 each with me paying the shipping within the USA.

Kendel McCarley                                   kendelm@ece.arizona.edu
KC7FRS                              http://pavan.ece.arizona.edu/~kendelm

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You certainly would not get a Psion package to run on the LX.   You might
find a DOS version but it would be pretty unlikely I fear.  There is a very
compact route planner from a Dutch company , product under the name
AND-route; but it is Win 95 only.  All of UK is just 5Mb (though it comes on
a CD!).   I assume that this kind of thing would not run on Win 3.0 on an
LX.

What is the difference between Win 3.0 and 3.1 wrt the applications that run
?   If one has software that says 'needs Win 3.1' is it an dead cert that it
will not run on 3.0 ?

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:00:33 -1000
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Does anyone know where I can find a repository of 123 macros?  In particular,
I'm looking for some simple finance s/w (I have an HP100LX)?

        Cheers,

                Tim

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A friend of mine has a Megahertz XJ1336 33.6 modem and I thought I
would see how well it would work in my 200LX. I fired up WWW/LX with
the serial port speed set to 57600 and things looked good for a little
while. I browsed around for about five minutes and noticed the screen
was a bit dim like when batteries are charging. I increased contrast
and pushed on. 30 seconds later it was dim again (adjusted) and again
(adjusted) and again (adjusted) until it started to fade completely
out. I shut off the machine fearing the worst. I removed the modem and
was able to get the machine back with Ctrl-Shift-On after about 5
tries. I guess this is one we can mark off the list. :)

Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:49:28 -0700
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That's probably because Megahertz modems are hogs when it comes to power
consumption. Typical stated specs are around 300-350mA in operating mode.
>
The most efficient performers are Motorola, Viking and Simple, according to
specs I've seen.
>
Bernie Torbik
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Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 1:28 PM
Subject: A modem to avoid...


>A friend of mine has a Megahertz XJ1336 33.6 modem and I thought I
>would see how well it would work in my 200LX. I fired up WWW/LX with
>the serial port speed set to 57600 and things looked good for a little
>while. I browsed around for about five minutes and noticed the screen
>was a bit dim like when batteries are charging. I increased contrast
>and pushed on. 30 seconds later it was dim again (adjusted) and again
>(adjusted) and again (adjusted) until it started to fade completely
>out. I shut off the machine fearing the worst. I removed the modem and
>was able to get the machine back with Ctrl-Shift-On after about 5
>tries. I guess this is one we can mark off the list. :)
>
>Mitch
>S.U.P.E.R. Team
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Item Subject: Re: Car Adapter?
I'm sure it's ok with the engine off - that's a nice solid 13.6v that comes
off the battery (at several hundred amps should your modem need it)
- or do you use it with the engine running Ken?
br
jez


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Date:    30/05/98 04:51


I use the 12v from my cigarette lighter for an LX100 and 200 twice daily for ove
an hour each session. I have for years. No problems. I realize that there is a p
sibility of problems as mentioned by others and wouldn't recommend it to anyone
r fear of contributing to a failed life-source, (HP*00LX). However, I thought I
uld share my success as my two cents to this thread.
Ken Moore

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:34:16 -0700
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> Item Subject: Re: Car Adapter?
> I'm sure it's ok with the engine off - that's a nice solid 13.6v that comes
> off the battery (at several hundred amps should your modem need it)
> - or do you use it with the engine running Ken?

Or sitting inside honking the horn at your friend who is having
trouble getting the jumper cables hooked up right because
your other friend (who is welding a new exhaust system on your car)
keeps missing and hitting the battery cable on the starter and
scaring him with the strange sound the battery is now making? :-)

Sorry, it's been a weird day.. Somehow I just had to take the
concept of electrical interference and run with it...  :-)

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:36:01 -0700
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A few days age I recall somebody was looking for a 95LX.
Well here's your chance, to get one for $50.00.

Reply-To: Kendel McCarley <kendelm@ece.arizona.edu>

Good Luck!

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: Kendel McCarley <kendelm@ece.arizona.edu>
Subject: FS: HP95LX - $50 shipped
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:31:52 -0700

I've got two HP95LX palmtop computers for sale.  Both of them have screen
problems, but I will include a good working screen with each.  If you're
willing to do the work of replacing the screen, you can have one or both
for $50 each with me paying the shipping within the USA.

Kendel McCarley                                   kendelm@ece.arizona.edu
KC7FRS                              http://pavan.ece.arizona.edu/~kendelm


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Regards,

Qman...


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The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:04:55 -0500
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On 06-02 09:44pm, you had written

-> > At 06:50 AM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
-> > >From what I've seen, it appears that the power supply on the 200LX is
-> > rather immune to blows from outside sources.  I recall hearing about a li
-> st
->
-> It's not that immune, my friend in the U.K. managed to hurt the 100LX
-> that I gave him.  He bought a 12v regulated supply which was mismarked
-> and output a nice regulated 18v!  Now it sits there when charging
-> is enabled and alternates between "charging enabled" and "charging
-> disabled".  He's in the process of getting some kind of compensation
-> for the damage.


        An excellent reason for purchasing a cheap voltmeter and
checking this kind of device before using it.  Even a $15.00 el-crappo
flea market meter would have saved the gentleman from alot of
aggravation and having to resort to the old Mark 1 pencil and paper
database system.  Most of these so-called power supplies are not
regulated and use the load(the HP200) as part of the voltage
regulation.  Even when it is a reulated supply, human error on the part
of the manufacturer does obviously occur.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:27:31 -0500
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On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> That's probably because Megahertz modems are hogs when it comes to power
> consumption. Typical stated specs are around 300-350mA in operating mode.


The 14.4 Megahertz modems are rated at 130 mA in operating mode.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> A friend of mine has a Megahertz XJ1336 33.6 modem and I thought I
> would see how well it would work in my 200LX. I fired up WWW/LX with

Probably takes more than 150mAh to drive it. That is all the
palmtop PCMCIA port can deliver.

Apex makes a 33.6 which draws 138mAh.

> the serial port speed set to 57600 and things looked good for a little

That is not useful, because the palmtop can process not more
than 19200 on regular palmtops and maybe as high as
22,000-25,000 for speeded up machines. At 28.8 would provide
the same personramnce, probably be much much cheaper, if you
can find them.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:18:10 +0930
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David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> writes:
> Today I got a big catalog from Thaddeus with a two-page spread on
> what Super Software Carousel is.  Basically, it's a CD which has on
> it their new 7.0 version of SC (which now "supports different device
> drivers in different sessions"

Is this really the only technical change to the basic functionality of
the program ?

Can someone from Thaddeus give us the technical facts of exactly what
has changed (i.e. which bugs have been fixed, which new basic
functionality features have been added - and exactly how to they
work).

Is there any change to the programmer's API ?

The real question is:  What do I get for my $20 that I can't add
myself ?

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But he was trying a 33.6...
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Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 4:32 PM
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>On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
>> That's probably because Megahertz modems are hogs when it comes to power
>> consumption. Typical stated specs are around 300-350mA in operating mode.
>
>
>The 14.4 Megahertz modems are rated at 130 mA in operating mode.
>
>Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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I've sent this to Mitch for Super and all those who requested it.

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$25 for one?

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:15:16 EDT
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probably should put a 13 V zener and a poly fuse to protect the zener.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:41:42 -0500
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Subject:      Re: ReÝ2¨: Car Adapter?

On 06-03 09:44am, you had written

-> Item Subject: Re: Car Adapter?
-> I'm sure it's ok with the engine off - that's a nice solid 13.6v that comes
-> off the battery (at several hundred amps should your modem need it)
-> - or do you use it with the engine running Ken?
-> br
-> jez


I'm just stuck on this image of someone standing there using their
200LX connected to this 3000 pound battery.  Now, ain't that handy...

:)


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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:14:34 -0500
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Comments: To: BriTrenth@AOL.COM

On 06-02 03:15am, you had written

-> probably should put a 13 V zener and a poly fuse to protect the zener.
->


What is a poly fuse?   I would still use an LM317 or some such to keep
the input to the palmtop at 10-12 Vdc.  Or use the PUP-15 Car adapter.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:16:56 PDT
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Hello there,

I have generated some fonts and I need to have the keyboard on my
HP200LX redefined so that I can use the new fonts.  I cannot seem to get
ExKey to work and KEY200 cannot map characters with ASCII above 127.  Do
you know of any keyboard redefinition TSRs?

Please let me know at:   terzis@hotmail.com
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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:18:06 PDT
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Hi there,

I have a bunch of fonts that I have downloaded from palmtop.net.  It
seems that they were using an unregistered version of FCL and I cannot
use them anymore.  Does anyone know where I might be able to get the
source for those so that I recompile them with my registered FCL?

Please let me know at:   terzis@hotmail.com
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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:28:20 -0700
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Subject:      on the subject of powering computers with car batteries...

> From: M. C. Beutler Ýmailto:mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM¨
> I'm just stuck on this image of someone standing there using their
> 200LX connected to this 3000 pound battery.  Now, ain't that handy...

Okay, I've been holding off on asking my question here, because it's a
little out of place (after all, how many A-h does a LX-200 power source
really need to have for a plane trip? even a long one?)... but my LX-200 has
a big brother that eats power like there's no tomorrow. So...

Does anyone know whether it's okay to bring a sealed lead acid battery onto
an airplane? Looking around the web, I found the following which implies
that it isn't, at least not if you are planning to use it:

http://parentzone.com/health/distrav2.htm
¨ 3. Unsealed batteries must be specially packed for shipment. Sealed,
¨ certified, lead-acid or gel-cell batteries are more acceptable but
¨ must also be disconnected and the terminals taped for transportation.
¨ Check with each carrier.

This kind of sucks because you can get a 5lb, 5 Amp, 12V battery for a
little over $18
(http://shop.media3.net/acb2/showdetl.cfm?&DID=18&Product_ID=1425&CATID=76).
The weight to A-h ration is a little low, but the price sure is right.

On the other hand, http://www.ljextra.com/ltpn/september97/p16batteries.html
("Lawyers who need up to 10 hours of non-stop battery power will be
interested in the Portable Power Pack from 1-800-Batteries"), followed by
http://www.800batteries.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/;display/item?prrfnbr=13650&pr
menbr=1 (1-800-Batteries Portable Power Pack, Voltage: 12.00, Type: Lead
Acid, mAmps: 5000, Price: $179.00) would lead me to believe that lead acid
batteries ARE allowed on airplanes. At least after they've been marked up by
a factor of ten!!!

- Joe

P.S. I finally received the "Microsoft Windows Ý2.0¨ User's Guide" from the
Microsoft Library... I haven't found any secrets in there yet that aren't in
Windows 3.x or that aren't visible on the screen (like the extra keyboard
shortcuts on alt-space). Also, I'm slowly figuring out how to write
converter programs for word/excel/outlook/etc... looks like the "Microsoft
Office, Developer's Edition" documentation has all the secrets I need...

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:29:07 -0500
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Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET

On 06-03 06:28pm, you had written

-> > A friend of mine has a Megahertz XJ1336 33.6 modem and I thought I
-> > would see how well it would work in my 200LX. I fired up WWW/LX with
->
-> Probably takes more than 150mAh to drive it. That is all the
-> palmtop PCMCIA port can deliver.
->
-> Apex makes a 33.6 which draws 138mAh.
->
-> > the serial port speed set to 57600 and things looked good for a little
->
-> That is not useful, because the palmtop can process not more
-> than 19200 on regular palmtops and maybe as high as
-> 22,000-25,000 for speeded up machines. At 28.8 would provide
-> the same personramnce, probably be much much cheaper, if you
-> can find them.
->
->   Avi M. ÝD&A¨


        Avi, could you elaborate on this a bit?  My 33.6 Simple modem
is much faster than my EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem when I use them to
download email with the palmtop.  Also, when I run Transfile between
the 200LX and my desktop, it makes a difference in throughput if I
change between say, 19200 or 57600.  At least it seems quicker at the
higher baud rate.  Maybe this is one of these Tim Allen things.
Y'know, must be better, I've got More Power! Arr, Arr, Arr...  :)


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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:43:14 -0500
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Subject:      Re: on the subject of powering computers with car batteries.

On 06-03 09:28pm, you had written


->
-> Does anyone know whether it's okay to bring a sealed lead acid battery onto
-> an airplane? Looking around the web, I found the following which implies
-> that it isn't, at least not if you are planning to use it:
->

No, you cannot.(legally)  In fact, one may not have the lead-acid
battery in the passenger compartment at all.  Even with a gel cell, you
still have a plastic container of lead and sulphuric acid.  If the big
brother to the palmtop is a laptop, there are companies that make
"battery bases" (nicad or lithium) that the laptop sits on sort of like
a docking bay and supplies power via the port you would normally plug
the external ac adapter into.


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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:43:11 -0400
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Subject:      Flash Memory
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I would like one that works both in my 200lx and in my windows 95 =
laptop.  Any suggestions?  Is it possible?

Bill

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:44:44 -0400
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Can someone explain the self tests (Esc + On) to me?  Specifically the
keyboard and display tests.  I have to Esc in order to get to each screen of
the display test, and the keyboard test takes over 1 hour to run.  Is this
normal?

Ray

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:08:05 PST
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Subject:      100lx:Flash Memory, Hinge crack

     Greetings:

     I have  had an HP100lx/2Mb for ~6yrs and love it. However I recently
     purchased a 32Mb compact Flash card with a PCMCIA adapter, made by
     Simple Technology. Generally it worked fairly well once I got an
     acecard driver to let the 100lx communicate with it. However, I have
     had some troubling problems virtually since day one.

     1) If the battery voltage, as indicated by the setup window, is in the
     2.48-2.53v range, I get intermittent I/O errors. Below 2.48v the card
     cannot be read even with a hard boot. When the voltage is above 2.53v
     I can get an occasional I/O error(in some cases it may be because I
     pressed a key while it was reading the card). This morning it would
     not read the card with the voltage above 2.83v. A hard boot was
     required to access the card. Has been OK the rest of today. I have
     used the acecard drivers Ver 2.01 and 2.01J, they both seem to work
     the same.

     If anyone else is using the Simple Technology XXMb Flash card on an
     HP100lx I would like to know what your experience has been and what
     driver that you may be using! I have had suggested the use of an
     Accurite Flash card driver, but have not been able to locate one. If
     anyone has or knows where to find this driver, please contact me at
     "jebuford@mail.hac.com". I welcome any other suggestions. I can live
     with this BUT it can be very inconvenient waiting for my >2000 entry
     phonebook to load after a hard boot(~10min).

     2)I FOUND A NEW CRACK!!!!! My 100lx is showing a crack at the outside
     top edge of the barrel portion that surrounds the friction clutch on
     the RH hinge(under the cap). I repaired the original crack(in the
     customary place, just above the RH hinge parallel to the length of the
     palmtop from about 5mm to about 15mm in. This was repaired with super
     glue more than 4 years ago and has been fine. I am in the process of
     gluing this new crack with super glue, however this point is under
     constant pressure from the spring in the friction clutch and I'm not
     certain that this will hold. Will let the list know!

     I compared the hinges, under a stereo scope at 10X, on my 100lx with a
     200lx/2Mb SN#SG55XXXX. The 200lx shows no sign of any cracking
     anywhere in/around that hinge. Also the shape of the barrel portion of
     the 200lx where the new crack is on my 100lx is MUCH more substantial.
     This 200lx has not been used very much as the screen is broken. The
     Hinge is MUCH stiffer than my 100lx.

     Any help appreciated!!! I have been on the list only about 1 month and
     am continually astounded at the WEALTH of information on a daily basis
      and in the archives!!!

     Please Reply to "jebuford@mail.hac.com

     TIA

     Joe Buford :-{>}

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:05:30 -0400
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Hello folks,

Do you think it is possible to hack a Psion PC card
modem adater and use it with your 200LX?
I am just curious. :-)

Thank you,
Yujin

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:48:57 -0700
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With my Simple Tech 40MB type II card (the ones they're closing out at $190
at various locations like isn.com and buycomp.com) I've never had a problem
with a low voltage causing reading errors.  I have, however, heard of
somebody else having this problem... perhaps there was a bad batch of
cards?  Or perhaps certain LX's (I'm using a 200LX, BTW, speed doubled and
32MB C: drive) are particularly sensitive to current draw?  You might want
to try sending yours back for warranty replacement and see if the new one
fixes this...

The only thing I've noticed about the Simple Tech cards is that they cause
a bit of a surge (I think it was up to 50-60ma extra) when you first insert
them, and then quickly settle down to their regular operating current.
This is not unlike other cards I've tested... most of them seem to
initially draw a high level of current, then quickly settle back down.
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:34:53 -0700
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FYI: Here is a message Andreas posted on HPHAND Forum in
Compuserve.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Fm: Andreas Garzotto
To: all

I think it is about time to reveal some undocumented (and
unsupported!) features of POST/LX 2.0. Please be aware that
D&A cannot provide support for them! If they work for you:
fine. If they don't: don't use them.

So here the first one:

If you put

 Font1=3Dc:\www\hv\luhs13b.hfn
 Font2=3Dc:\www\hv\luhs13n.hfn

into the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG, you add additional
fonts that can be used in the message view of POST/LX. You
can add as many fonts as you like (Font3, Font4 etc.) The
font files itself must be of HFN type, i.e. the same type of
font files that you can use with HV and some other PAL
applications.

To access those additional fonts, press the ZOOM key
(Fn-Space). The new fonts will appear in addition to the 3
built-in fonts.

Note that they need memory, so if you get an "Out of Memory"
message, it won't work for you.

Have fun!

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:08:12 -0700
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Subject:      Re: A modem to avoid...

Is the statement below for really and truly? Just a while ago I asked how
fast a HPLX (single speed as well as doubled) could deal with data. I
have a single speed 100lx and a 14.4k PCMCIA modem. I set the
computer-to-modem speed at 38400. When I transfer with filer to my
desktop the connection is set at 115k. I haven't done any serious
testing, but have had no problems with these setups. I figured the faster
(without error) the better.

The point I wanted to gain insight to was, does a modem faster than 14.4k
benefit a HPLX (single speed or doubled). Also, is the bottleneck the
palmtop, the software used, or the modem. What would give the best gain
(as far as transmission speed), speed doubling the palmtop, getting the
most capable comm software (as far as speed goes), or getting a faster
modem.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:28:23 -0700 "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:

>That is not useful, because the palmtop can process not more
>than 19200 on regular palmtops and maybe as high as
>22,000-25,000 for speeded up machines. At 28.8 would provide
>the same personramnce, probably be much much cheaper, if you
>can find them.
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>

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> -> That is not useful, because the palmtop can process not more
> -> than 19200 on regular palmtops and maybe as high as
> -> 22,000-25,000 for speeded up machines. At 28.8 would provide
> -> the same personramnce, probably be much much cheaper, if you
> -> can find them.
>
>         Avi, could you elaborate on this a bit?  My 33.6 Simple modem
> is much faster than my EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem when I use them to
> download email with the palmtop.  Also, when I run Transfile between

See the lines above? That is why your 33.6 is faster than
14.4, but you sure don't get 33.6 out of it!

> the 200LX and my desktop, it makes a difference in throughput if I
> change between say, 19200 or 57600.  At least it seems quicker at the
> higher baud rate.  Maybe this is one of these Tim Allen things.
> Y'know, must be better, I've got More Power! Arr, Arr, Arr...  :)

You confuse two different link types.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:41:35 -0700
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> Can someone from Thaddeus give us the technical facts of exactly what
> has changed (i.e. which bugs have been fixed, which new basic
> functionality features have been added - and exactly how to they
> work).

I am not from Thaddeus, but have a bit of information.

There was a dangerous bug which destroyed PC Card when you
opened a file in one WA, switched to another WA, then changed
cards, and returned to the original WA. SC did not recognise
the PC Ard change and wrote on top of the new card an image of
the old stuff, causing a bit of a havoc, if not more of a
havoc :) --- Fixed.

There is a small "inconvenience". I do not consider it a "bug"
really. When you switch from WA to WA, the old screen mode was
not known nor restored. Consequntly, on occasions people
experienced a "meltdown" of the screen, letters wre not bein
updated properly etc. Pressing F1 and escape restored order.
Or pressing &... did it too, hence an "inconvenience" not a
bug IMHO. --- Fixed in some fashion.

Basic functionality features I'll leave to Thaddeus people to
comment on.

> Is there any change to the programmer's API ?

None that I know of.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:16:26 -0400
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At 03:21 PM 6/3/98 -0500, you wrote:

>A friend of mine has a Megahertz XJ1336 33.6 modem and I thought I

>would see how well it would work in my 200LX. I fired up WWW/LX with

>the serial port speed set to 57600 and things looked good for a little

>while. I browsed around for about five minutes and noticed the screen

>was a bit dim like when batteries are charging. I increased contrast

>and pushed on. 30 seconds later it was dim again (adjusted) and again

>(adjusted) and again (adjusted) until it started to fade completely

>out. I shut off the machine fearing the worst. I removed the modem and

>was able to get the machine back with Ctrl-Shift-On after about 5

>tries. I guess this is one we can mark off the list. :)


I think we can mark off the XJ4288 as well.  Trying to use this modem crashed my palmtop, the keyboard wouldn't respond (neither of the three finger salutes worked) and I had to remove all of the batteries to even get the thing working again, and even then, there was a screen problem for several hours.


James

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Jim Krist wrote:
>
> Com' on, it's the principle that's important.  You got it to work.
> Nobody hacks up this stuff to do economically useful work ;-)
>
> > The IR transmitter on the 200LX is pretty weak.  I tried running that TV remote
> > control program; I found that it worked
> > but I had to be withing arm's reach of the TV which meant it wasn't too useful
> > as a REMOTE control.
        One application I have always wanted to see for the HP/LX was a
learning remote control with macro record and timed playback capability,
that would allow you to define a sequience of remote keypresses that
would be played back at a fixed and/or repeating time. You could use
this to tape video from different channels if you have a cable box or
satellite reciever, or drive your stereo to tape audio from the radio!
Lack of distance would not be a factor here, compared to the value of
the function.
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Subject:      TurboC on 200lx

Thanks to the group for the C compiler suggestions.  I purchased PowerC
and downloaded a copy of TurboC 1.0 (after deleting C++ Builder 4.52).  I
lean toward liking TurboC more as I'm a beginner and the command line
compiler is still a little intimidating.

I have two questions though.

1)  Is there a way to force TurboC to work with two colors?  Many of the
things that are going on are barely legible because they're in a color
which doesn't translate well to LCD.

2)  TurboC lets you shell to DOS on a PC so you can run your program
without leaving the "window" (is that an IDE)?.  I can't shell on the
palmtop 'cause it fails in its search for command.com.  Is there
something I can do to get this feature on palmtop?

Finally, am I spinning my wheels even trying to learn this language?  Is
it going the way of COBOL (private jab) in the face of
Delphi/Perl/Java/VisualBasic/Flavor of the Month.

Larry Zimmerman

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Hi There,

And yet _another_ post attempted

A recurring question has been replacement screws for the case. I snapped the
heads off a couple of screws and ended up replacing all screws with 1/16" long
hex screws with a thread of 0-80. I don't know where you'd find such(radio
shack?), but they work just fine. Of course now you need a really small allen
wrench.........

hope this helps

paul

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:16:30 +0930
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Avi writes:
> I am not from Thaddeus, but have a bit of information.
>
> There was a dangerous bug which destroyed PC Card when you
> opened a file in one WA, switched to another WA, then changed
> cards, and returned to the original WA. SC did not recognise
> the PC Ard change and wrote on top of the new card an image of
> the old stuff, causing a bit of a havoc, if not more of a
> havoc :) --- Fixed.
>
> There is a small "inconvenience". I do not consider it a "bug"
> really. When you switch from WA to WA, the old screen mode was
> not known nor restored. Consequntly, on occasions people
> experienced a "meltdown" of the screen, letters wre not bein
> updated properly etc. Pressing F1 and escape restored order.
> Or pressing &... did it too, hence an "inconvenience" not a
> bug IMHO. --- Fixed in some fashion.

If these two problems are fixed in the new version, then I'll be
lining up with my $20.  Thanks for the information Avi.

> Basic functionality features I'll leave to Thaddeus people to
> comment on.

I'll look forward to them taking the opportunity to "advertise" the
new features in this forum.

> > Is there any change to the programmer's API ?
>
> None that I know of.

That means that ExmBatch should work with the new version without any
problems.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:45:53 +0200
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>1)  Is there a way to force TurboC to work with two colors?  Many of the
>things that are going on are barely legible because they're in a color
>which doesn't translate well to LCD.

In Turbo C 2.0 there's a program called TCINST which will let you customize
colors. Unfortunately, there's not a LCD or monochrome preset, so, you'll
have to configure all colors manually.

From Turbo C++ 1.0 on, color customization is done from the options menu
within the IDE. You can then save the configuration, but just don't
remember nowif there's a LCD/monocrhrome preset.

>2)  TurboC lets you shell to DOS on a PC so you can run your program
>without leaving the "window" (is that an IDE)?.  I can't shell on the
>palmtop 'cause it fails in its search for command.com.  Is there
>something I can do to get this feature on palmtop?

Set the environment variable COMSPEC to your command line interpreter. For
example:

SET COMSPEC=D:\DOS\COMMAND.COM

Or, if you use 4DOS (depending on your 4DOS directory):

SET COMSPEC=C:\4DOS\4DOS.COM

Regards. Nacho.

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hi folks!  A buddy just gave me a pristine copy of Switch It on 5.25 disk=
s.
 It seems to be a Software Carousel type of program and I don't recall an=
y
discussion on the list.  Anybody tried it?  =

I tried to install SC but the manual was incredibly poorly written - sort=

of stream of consciousness with no real organization.  Because of the pre=
ss
of time, i haven't had time to figure it out.  I sent a note to Hal who
advised the manual has been re-written and the pgm imporved.  I'll probab=
ly
go that route but I'd be interested in any bullets on Switch It.
Thanks
Tom in Damascus

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 04:11:52 -0400
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Hi Folks!  Just full of questions today...
A buddy runs DOS Quicken off his palmtop and wanted to know what's the
highest DOS Quicken which synchs with Quicken for Windows.
Cheers!
Tom in Damascus

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Hi Folks!
Sorry - Way Off Topic - But being isolated in Syria (and no one knows
anything about computers here) I need some help.  My Mom is 81 years old
and is interested in getting on email.  She can type quite well but I jus=
t
know a computer will just be a frustrating experience for her.  Anybody
have any suggestions on a real simple email system for her?  Something =

dead simple and Marine-proof?  I saw something about Web TV (like I said,=

we're out of the loop here) and maybe this would work.  =

Any ideas, suggestions or advice would be most welcomed.  Sorry for the o=
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topic question.
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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:34:12 -0700
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I'll have to certify the awesome reliablilty of the 32MB upgrade.  It
is killer.  I'm currently in the UK on vacation, and I ran my main
batts down using my PCMCIA modem (oops).  When I pulled the main AAs
out, the LX made a screaming sound.  I quickly swapped batteries, but I
got the "RAM drive initialized" message.  My stomach was in my
throat... but I remembered I'd had a recent backup to my Flash Card of
the necessary drivers, along with my boot files.  I just popped in the
flash, did a ctrl-alt-del, and up came the palmtop, along with all the
data on the 32MB partition!  Then I just copied the boot files and
drivers to the 1MB F:(my original C:), then removed the flash and
rebooted one more time.  All better.  I can't emphasize enough the
value of even a small flash disk... and the 32MB upgrade is WAY more
robust and reliable than the original HP stuff.

This is, however, my own opinion.  I'm not affiliated with T2T in any
way, except a really happy customer.

Bill


lynn cavendish wrote:
> In the really unlikely event that your have to say
> yes to the "initialize the C: Drive" question, as long as you have an
> uncompressed memory card with the drivers, its no big deal to fix =
things back
> up.  Reloading from back-up is much more of a problem.  In fact, my
> understanding is that if you have the 32 Meg vesion, initializing the =
RAM
> drive only wipes your old 2 Meg chip, and you may well still have a =
fully
> loaded 32 Meg drive.  (Fortunately, I can not report on this with =
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Raymond Wick wrote:

> Can someone explain the self tests (Esc + On) to me?  Specifically the
> keyboard and display tests.  I have to Esc in order to get to each screen of
> the display test, and the keyboard test takes over 1 hour to run.  Is this
> normal?

On my double speed 8MB 200LX I cannot even read the display as the spd31.sys
does not seem to function. How can I do the self test on a double speed machine
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On 06-04 12:41am, you had written

-> > -> That is not useful, because the palmtop can process not more
-> > -> than 19200 on regular palmtops and maybe as high as
-> > -> 22,000-25,000 for speeded up machines. At 28.8 would provide
-> > -> the same personramnce, probably be much much cheaper, if you
-> > -> can find them.

Ok, perhaps I was not clear before.  What limits the 200's data
throughput?  If one is using a pc card modem, then the UART in the 200
is not involved, yes?  I therefore assume there is some other limiting
factor in the pcmcia bus itself?  Just trying to understand what is
happening in the 200 and how it works.

-> >
-> >         Avi, could you elaborate on this a bit?  My 33.6 Simple modem
-> > is much faster than my EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem when I use them to
-> > download email with the palmtop.  Also, when I run Transfile between
->
-> See the lines above? That is why your 33.6 is faster than
-> 14.4, but you sure don't get 33.6 out of it!
->   Avi M. ÝD&A¨


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> P.S. I finally received the "Microsoft Windows Ý2.0¨ User's Guide" from
the
> Microsoft Library... I haven't found any secrets in there yet that aren't
in
> Windows 3.x or that aren't visible on the screen (like the extra keyboard
> shortcuts on alt-space). Also, I'm slowly figuring out how to write
> converter programs for word/excel/outlook/etc... looks like the
"Microsoft
> Office, Developer's Edition" documentation has all the secrets I need...
>

I have had the manual for ages and read it through several times from cover
to cover & there is not a lot to pick out of it that you can't find by just
pressing
keys in the program. One hard to find one is BackSpace while in MS-Dos
Executive, backs you up one directory, and Ctrl + Drive letter changes the
drive.

Paint, however, has some hard to find moves. It is FULLY        keyboard
friendly, so
you can do anything without a mouse but free-form scribbling. Tip: try
pressing
Enter after selecting tools (with tab)

I still can't get mine (version 2.03) to print cleanly from the palmtop via
a serial <->
parallel converter or through a serial printer. I usually transfer the
files to a pc and
print from there. I tried version 3.0 but it was no better at printing and
I didn't like the
extra space going to progam manager. BTW, you can run MS-Dos Executive in
3.0
if you prefer the interface. (It is bundled in the 3.0 disks)

If I am going to be away from my machines and need to print, I carry a
floppy with
FX 2.0 (Fast Lynx) so I can borrow a PC, insert the floppy, run FX (which
runs in
Dos, 95 & NT) run fx on the palmtop, disconnect the PC's mouse if it is on
com1  or
com2 & connect the palmtops cable to transfer the files, takes about as
long to read
as to do. I have a mac cable too, but have to resort to comms packages &
transfer
to and from macs is pretty laborious...

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I don't know if this little closeout is company wide, but I found Radio
Shack's "International Telephone Adapters" (Cat. No. 279-412) on sale
for $2.97. It contains adapters for the UK, France and Germany. Seemed
like a good deal to me...

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:45:23 -0500
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Don't think you can.

I don't think anyone used this anyway.
In the back burner of my feeble. I think
it was suggested that this not be used.
Maybe other comments from elsewhere.

Yor pal al .....................

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Morning guy

 There was a dangerous bug which destroyed PC Card when you
> opened a file in one WA, switched to another WA, then changed
> cards, and returned to the original WA. SC did not recognise
> the PC Ard change and wrote on top of the new card an image of
> the old stuff, causing a bit of a havoc, if not more of a
> havoc :) --- Fixed.
>
Could you spell out abreviations (WA) the first time you
use them please.  I have mem block at 7am or don't know
what it is. Some young lurkers may not either.    thanks.

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Subject:      Re: switch it - software carousel

To sc and all product manfs.
I agree that carousel doc sucks.

You really gotta be a rocket to get it working
or have a lot of time to analyse the info.
Unfortunately, I'm not either.

The (all) manual should be in two or more
parts with one part containing direct explicit
instructions on how to get the product running
in the with step by step instructions in one
sequence of steps then all the notes and
reference info at the end for those who want
or need to improve and fine tune it.

Then it should be tested by some office secretaries
independantly and problems sorted out before printing.
The sc manual seems to have all the paragraphs
all jumbled up.

Yor pal al .....................

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  Lynn cavendish wrote:
  In the really unlikely event that you have to say
  yes to the "initialize the C: Drive" question, as
  long as you have an uncompressed memory card with
  the drivers, its no big deal to fix things back
  up.  Reloading from back-up is much more of a problem.
  In fact, my understanding is that if you have the
  32 Meg vesion, initializing the RAM drive only wipes
  your old 2 Meg chip, and you may well still have a
  fully loaded 32 Meg drive. (Fortunately, I can not
  report on this with knowledge.)

  Surported by the fact that T2T provides a file RDINIT
  to initialize when you have to. Probably a seconary
  unintentional benefit.  Interesting to figure out why
  this is the case.  Any engineering comments?

  Yor pal al .....................

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> Is the statement below for really and truly? Just a while ago I asked =
how

Well, probably I lied! :) No... I think I stated it correctly.

> fast a HPLX (single speed as well as doubled) could deal with data. I
> have a single speed 100lx and a 14.4k PCMCIA modem. I set the
> computer-to-modem speed at 38400. When I transfer with filer to my
> desktop the connection is set at 115k. I haven't done any serious
> testing, but have had no problems with these setups. I figured the =
faster
> (without error) the better.

The two communications modes have nothng to do with each other.

Let's only talk modems. The palmtop can at most handle about
19200, single speed, and about 22,000-25,000 double speed. You
can set you modem to go at 500,000,000 baud, but it is likely
going to work at the maximum the palmtop can handle. The
higher speeds are no a waffle, it is just not terribly well
measured, but some observations have been performed and
published. There was even one measurement at 30,019baud. Let's
be realistic, in most cases you'll get about 22,000 or
thereabouts.

> The point I wanted to gain insight to was, does a modem faster than =
14.4k
> benefit a HPLX (single speed or doubled). Also, is the bottleneck the

Yes, you can probably get a little bit more than 14.4 on a
single speed. I used to get about 18,000, but not repeated,
just sometimes.

> palmtop, the software used, or the modem. What would give the best gain
> (as far as transmission speed), speed doubling the palmtop, getting the
> most capable comm software (as far as speed goes), or getting a faster
> modem.

Now we are into "let's get another hair out of that". Well,
double everything, get the most, the fastest, you'll gain
some. And pay quite a bit with $$$.

If all you are trying to do is get faster modem
communications, I suggest that the double speeding alone,
helps alleviate some, but DEFINITELY not all the bottlenek,
which is hardware, and not changeable at this time.

With both, faster modem and faster machine you will gain some
more.

If it was me, I'd decide like this: Speed upgrade is what $75?
And it affects ALL applications running. It nearly doubles the
palmtop speed.

Modem upgrade is 125-180 depending on the mode (I am thinking
33.6, if you can even find them) and it affects exactly one
type application (data communication type) where you spend
maybe 15% of the time? And then you only gain a 33% advantage
from 14.4, if that.

I occasionaly use a 2400 modem to just login and get email,
when I am far from power source. It is a lowpoke, sure, but
totally adequate. Browsing with it is like having a hesitant
dentist pull your teeth! :)

Good luck. I am sure I confused you! :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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>
>  There was a dangerous bug which destroyed PC Card when you
> > opened a file in one WA, switched to another WA, then changed
> > cards, and returned to the original WA. SC did not recognise

> Could you spell out abreviations (WA) the first time you
> use them please.  I have mem block at 7am or don't know
> what it is. Some young lurkers may not either.    thanks.

WA is "work area", one of the multiple DOS sessions created for you by
Software Caorusel.

- Longden (obviously not young anymore)

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:46:30 -0400
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Kevin Calman wrote:
>         One application I have always wanted to see for the HP/LX was a
> learning remote control with macro record and timed playback capability,
> that would allow you to define a sequience of remote keypresses that
> would be played back at a fixed and/or repeating time. You could use
> this to tape video from different channels if you have a cable box or
> satellite reciever, or drive your stereo to tape audio from the radio!
> Lack of distance would not be a factor here, compared to the value of
> the function.


yes Yes YES!!!!

I 've wanted something like that for a _long_ time.

I have a programmable remote control called the Memorex CP-8 Turbo (it
controls 8 devices, and you program on/off events into it like a VCR) that
I do that kind of stuff withm, but it's about 10 years old and getting a
little lame.  If I could do something like that, I'd love it!

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On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> With my Simple Tech 40MB type II card (the ones they're closing out at $190
> at various locations like isn.com and buycomp.com) I've never had a problem
> with a low voltage causing reading errors.  I have, however, heard of
> somebody else having this problem... perhaps there was a bad batch of
> cards?

I seem to remember a poster (Martin in Argentina?) having IO problems with
his 32mb Simple Tech card at marginal power levels, but I think his was
one of the older PCMCIA cards and not a CF as Joe has. Maybe it uses the
same kind of controller? Lawrence Harvey also suspected that his 16mb
Simple Tech card was drawing significant power, but didn't report any IO
errors.

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Hello everyone,
  Just curious, I have a paradox application in ver 4.0 or 4.5. My
problem is I think ver 3.5 is the latest version that will run on the
200lx ( I have a stock 4mg unit ).  The manual for ver 4.0 states system
requirements as a "100% IBM compatible, protected-mode capable
80286,80386,or 80486 personal computer with a hard disk and a floppy
drive" The other requirements are dos 3.3 or higher, cga screen, etc.
The 200lx meets every requirement but the protected-mode (I think).
My question. Is the protected-mode thing keeping me from running this
app or is the 200lx not enough machine for this version of paradox and
is there any way around this. It would be great to use this app on the
200lx, it is an app we use every day at the office.  Thanks in Advance
for any input.
                Terry Livingston

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:21:38 -0700
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I've tried running Paradox on the 200LX; the latest version that runs is
3.5.  There's no way to get 4.0 or later on the 200LX; it's very fussy
about that missing 200LX.  <g>

On the other hand, dBASE IV will run, and files can usually be
imported/exported between that and Paradox.

--
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Is there a Windows ap that will read the 200LX database files?   I have the
connectivity kit but it must be v1 for DOS.   It is cumbersome on Window$ 95
:-(  and would like to run some of my db files on my desktop.   The DOS
version I have is awkward on it....even though I like DOS!!!    I have tried
to get an upgrade but no response.....

Cathy

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:55:13 -0700
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Terry Livingston wrote:

> My question. Is the protected-mode thing keeping me from running this
> app or is the 200lx not enough machine for this version of paradox and

Yes!  It is not an either or question.  The ability to do protected mode
is hardware dependant. So to paraphase your statement;
The 200lx can't do protected mode because it is not enough machine.



> is there any way around this. It would be great to use this app on the
> 200lx, it is an app we use every day at the office.

There may be a way, depends on the tools you have available and how they
are using Paradox 4.x

Could you send me a little more info by private e-mail and we can discuss
it.



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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, olsena wrote:

> How big is your flash card?  Mine is 16MB, and it doesn't seem to work.
> Are you using a 200LX and maybe the 200LX has extra drivers the 100LX
> doesn't have?  Any ideas?

I am using a 200lx.  I don't know if the 200 has extra drivers or what?

Anybody?

>     On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, olsena wrote:
>
>     > I have a Simple Technology card too, but I can't find the DOS driver.
>     > How do I get my card to work?  Would your DOS driver work with my 16MB
>     > card?  If so, could you forward me a copy of your driver?
>     >
Patrick replied
> I don't have a driver, I just slid the thing into the hp200lx and it sees
> it.


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Thu,  4 Jun 1998 12:22:47 -0400 (EDT)

01h21m06s ago ...
On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> I am using a 200lx.  I don't know if the 200 has extra drivers or what?
>
> Anybody?
>
I think this has come up before on the list...  The answer seems to be
that the 200LX has the newer driver, but the 100LX needs the
acecard.com driver that came with the ACE doubleflash cards.

-PR
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I live in the US and I want to trade my 200lx for someone's 700lx only they
live in Greece.

What is the safest way to do this for both of us?

-Tim
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I've used a program called DKEY on my 200lx.  I'm not sure if it worked
in the application manager or not.  My use was in dos to redefine some
keys for a game I used to play.  It worked just fine and it's very small.
It also comes with it's asm source code if you want to make changes.

I got it from Compuserve.  I think I've seen it on Simtel.

Barry

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Andreas Terzis wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> I have generated some fonts and I need to have the keyboard on my
> HP200LX redefined so that I can use the new fonts.  I cannot seem to get
> ExKey to work and KEY200 cannot map characters with ASCII above 127.  Do
> you know of any keyboard redefinition TSRs?
>
> Please let me know at:   terzis@hotmail.com
> Andreas Terzis
>
>
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A friend going that way or fedex.

yor pal al................

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Don't know what you're talking about.
Don't remember that simple needed drivers

you mention acecard, suggesting a stacked drive
in that case you need three drivers for stacker.

ACEDRV, ACECARD, and STACKER.COM
plus the stacked drive: STACKER.ACE.

yor pa al.....................

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:10:48 -0400
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I have using @Base for several years under SC and have not experience an
problems other that a garbled menu after switching session several
times.  I use a macro to load the various *.adn modules.

Ron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Jones Jr ÝSMTP:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 5:06 AM
> Subject:      123 @Base under Software Carousel
>
> I've just put SC back in use and was wondering if anybody has
> experienced
> problems with the built-in 1-2-3 from within a SC session?
>
> I'm  trying to figure out how to use @base, and am having trouble
> getting 1-2-3 to load files.  The problem disappears when unloading
> SC.
>
> Anybody have any experience with this?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>
>
> ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
> The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:18:06 -0500
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Larry Zimmerman wrote:

> 1)  Is there a way to force TurboC to work with two colors?  Many of the
> things that are going on are barely legible because they're in a color
> which doesn't translate well to LCD.

There is a program called tcinstal that comes with the compiler and
lets you set such things.  I don't remember if it came with version 1.0,
but I think it did.  If not, there might be a command line option.

I used Turbo C 1.0 for quite a while on a Compaq that thought it was
CGA but was really mono, kind of like the palmtop.  I remember that I
did solve that problem on the compaq.

> 2)  TurboC lets you shell to DOS on a PC so you can run your program
> without leaving the "window" (is that an IDE)?.  I can't shell on the
> palmtop 'cause it fails in its search for command.com.  Is there
> something I can do to get this feature on palmtop?

The window is the IDE.  You don't have to shell to dos to run your program.
There is a run command that lets you run it from within the ide.  This works
fine until the program needs a lot of memory.  At that point, you'll learn to
love the command line compiler.

> Finally, am I spinning my wheels even trying to learn this language?  Is
> it going the way of COBOL (private jab) in the face of
> Delphi/Perl/Java/VisualBasic/Flavor of the Month.

I won't say that C won't go the way of cobol at some future time.  I suspect
the days of user programmable computers are numbered.  But C and it's big
brother c++ will be in big demand for a long time to come.  They'll probably
outlast Java and the others, which will probably be replaced by even higher
level languages.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:08:04 -0500
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Hi, Avi.

I just joined this list.  I only found out about it yesterday.  And I
saw you here and I wanted to say hi to you.

Barry

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > -> That is not useful, because the palmtop can process not more
> > -> than 19200 on regular palmtops and maybe as high as
> > -> 22,000-25,000 for speeded up machines. At 28.8 would provide
> > -> the same personramnce, probably be much much cheaper, if you
> > -> can find them.
> >
> >         Avi, could you elaborate on this a bit?  My 33.6 Simple modem
> > is much faster than my EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem when I use them to
> > download email with the palmtop.  Also, when I run Transfile between
>
> See the lines above? That is why your 33.6 is faster than
> 14.4, but you sure don't get 33.6 out of it!
>
> > the 200LX and my desktop, it makes a difference in throughput if I
> > change between say, 19200 or 57600.  At least it seems quicker at the
> > higher baud rate.  Maybe this is one of these Tim Allen things.
> > Y'know, must be better, I've got More Power! Arr, Arr, Arr...  :)
>
> You confuse two different link types.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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David?

Why not just use a DOS version (2.0)  Paradox?
It works and is smaller, less than 1 MB.

yor pal al..............................

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Hi Cathy
You can use the connectivty pack (CPACK)
from HP NET free.  It'll work in windows and DOS
on the desktop, which is what I do when I'm home
allowing me a lg KB and color screen.

BATch file will make it nifty.

regards, yor pal al........................

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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, M. C. Beutler wrote:

> Ok, perhaps I was not clear before.  What limits the 200's data
> throughput?  If one is using a pc card modem, then the UART in the 200
> is not involved, yes?  I therefore assume there is some other limiting
> factor in the pcmcia bus itself?  Just trying to understand what is
> happening in the 200 and how it works.

I would expect that a major limitation would be the cpu itself.  In the
XT days using an 8 mhz Compaq we were able to do terminal emulation at
4800 bps reliably but not at 9600.  This was partly due to an inefficient
terminal program we were forced to use.

With a better program we could do 9600 baud but not 19200.  Terminal
emulation needs a lot of processing.  Of course this was in the days
of unbuffered uarts, too.

We had no trouble transferring files between computers at 115,200 bps.
That was without terminal emulation.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:28:34 -0700
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Do you have a url?

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Al Chin wrote:

> Hi Cathy
> You can use the connectivty pack (CPACK)
> from HP NET free.  It'll work in windows and DOS
> on the desktop, which is what I do when I'm home
> allowing me a lg KB and color screen.
>
> BATch file will make it nifty.
>
> regards, yor pal al........................
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Al Chin wrote:

> David?
>
> Why not just use a DOS version (2.0)  Paradox?
> It works and is smaller, less than 1 MB.

I prefer dBASE IV because it allows me to import/export memo fields with
newer database apps.  Older Paradox versions, oddly enough, won't produce
memo fields that work with Paradox 8.

--
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Today I acquired 2 HP100lx 1MB machines (each with a 5MB Flash Disk and
a cable for PC connection) and *no manuals*!  I hope to send these
machines with our field crews into the wilderness next week.  They will
download GPS location data onto the palmtops, a process we do on a PC
when the crews are closer to civilization.  I am well-versed in DOS but
know nothing about palmtops or Flash Disks.  I am under the gun to get
this going so I am looking for some guidance in the following areas:

I. Palmtop-to-PC:
I need to put "load.exe" (a DOS program) on the palmtop.  How do I get
the palmtop to talk to my PC so I can do this?  I have attached the
serial cable and tried to establish connection (via
Filer|Communications) but it won't recognize a connection.  I did not
fiddle with the "Remote Settings."  Can I copy from PC to palmtop and
vice-versa using what is "standard" software on the palmtop?  Should the
PC be running DOS?  I don't want anything fancy here, just to be able to
copy files back and forth.

II. Drive designations and Uses:
With the Flash Disk in place, it appears to be referred to as drive A:
*and* drive E: (!).
What is B:?
Is C: RAM?  If so, does everything on C: go away when power is off?
Also, is this (C:) where my program run (like RAM on a PC)?
Looks like D: is ROM (where did I see that?); thus I cannot edit my
autoexec and config?
What is G:?

III.Bootup:
Can I use the FlashDisk to be an "emergency startup disk" (like "booting
from A:" on a PC)?  If so, will "copy" work or are there "hidden
files"?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?

IV. Care of Equip.
I have read about the hinge crack so will advice the crews to go easy on
opening & closing.  Should the FlashCard be left in or out or does it
matter?  What is proper care of a Flash Card?

*T*IA for any help and suggestions.  I have a lot more to learn about
these gizmos--already I have a bunch of bookmarked sites to revisit on
the net--but need to get the nitty gritty handled first...

Noel Weaver
n.weaver@usa.net

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:15:07 -0400
Reply-To:     "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
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Subject:      ACRONYMS...Ugggh!
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET

SPC shows that ESD as called out in IPC which is an ANSI document could be detrimental to an SOIC and QFP in a PC.
Additionally, a BGA and the new CSP configuation could suffer a fractured solder joint due to CTE.
Now, these are all acronyms that are commonly used in the industry I am involved in. Confusing to those outside of my circles. Am I the only one who gets frustrated with acronyms that are not commonly known by the community at large? Maybe it is just me but I, for one, would appreciate an occasional explanation to answer the FAQ of, "What does that mean?" :-)
Avi, you are an admired teacher, what do you think?
Ken Moore
----------<snip>------------
Avi & another wrote;
There was a dangerous bug which destroyed PC Card when you
opened a file in one WA, switched to another WA, then changed
cards, and returned to the original WA. SC did not recognise
the PC Ard change and wrote on top of the new card an image of
the old stuff, causing a bit of a havoc, if not more of a
havoc...really. When you switch from WA to WA.... did it too, hence an "inconvenience" not a
bug IMHO. --- Fixed in some fashion.

> Is there any change to the programmer's API ?
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:15:11 -0400
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To answer your question, I use it when the car is running, not running and while the engine is starting. All this discussion is making me nervous, though. After a couple years of this practice, I am now paranoid.
Ken Moore
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Item Subject: Re: Car Adapter?
I'm sure it's ok with the engine off - that's a nice solid 13.6v that comes
off the battery (at several hundred amps should your modem need it)
- or do you use it with the engine running Ken?

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:32:26 -0500
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On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:21:39 -0500, Mitchell Hamm articulated...

>A friend of mine has a Megahertz XJ1336 33.6 modem and I thought I
....
>I browsed around for about five minutes and noticed the screen
>was a bit dim like when batteries are charging. I increased contrast
>and pushed on. 30 seconds later it was dim again (adjusted) and again
>(adjusted) and again (adjusted) until it started to fade completely
>out.

My CC4144 modem does the exact same thing if I'm charging the batteries..  So
I use BatSet in my net scripts (such as GP or LXTCP) to turn off battery
charging.  Otherwise, it works okay.  The modem is listed as being compatable
with the 200LX AFAIK, but still has the symptoms you see above.

150mA is such a limitation..  :(  Oh well.. :)

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:07:38 -0400
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Thu,  4 Jun 1998 15:47:53 -0400 (EDT)

01h37m41s ago ...

> Don't know what you're talking about.
> Don't remember that simple needed drivers

ALL ATA flash cards need drivers.  The palmtops have these built-in,
but the 100LX driver apparently conforms to an earlier PC card
standard.  The 200LX has the updated driver.

> you mention acecard, suggesting a stacked drive
> in that case you need three drivers for stacker.
>
> ACEDRV, ACECARD, and STACKER.COM
> plus the stacked drive: STACKER.ACE.

Actually only acedrv.sys & stacker.com are required for stacker.
Acecard.com is the replacement ATA card driver, and works with
compressed or non-compressed cards.

-PR
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> I. Palmtop-to-PC:
> I need to put "load.exe" (a DOS program) on the palmtop.  How do I get
> the palmtop to talk to my PC so I can do this?  I have attached the
> serial cable and tried to establish connection (via
> Filer|Communications) but it won't recognize a connection.  I did not
> fiddle with the "Remote Settings."  Can I copy from PC to palmtop and
> vice-versa using what is "standard" software on the palmtop?  Should the
> PC be running DOS?  I don't want anything fancy here, just to be able to
> copy files back and forth.

HP steered me to the TransFile Win 200 on the HP site and this solves the
file transfer problem!

-Noel

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:50:17 EDT
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You wrote:

<<You can use the connectivty pack (CPACK)
from HP NET free.  It'll work in windows and DOS
on the desktop, which is what I do when I'm home
allowing me a lg KB and color screen.>>

Well, I spent a couple hours trying to find the connectivity kit to upgrade.
You told me to get it from the HP NET.   Where is that?    I ckecked HP
Palmtop Paper's CD InfoBase 98 and nothing there either.    Could someone help
me further?   I have Window$ 95 and the OLD pack.

TIA

Cathy

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:05:27 -0400
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Be thankful there isn't any JAVA script for the web browser in WWWLX,
otherwise you'd be pulling your hair out at...

  http://junior.apk.net/~jbarta/idiot/idiot.html

Enjoy...
Russ Brooks    :-)
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PolySwitch is a automatic reseting low voltage solid state circuit breaker
from Raychem in Melo Park CA: 800 227 7040.

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Ken Moore wrote:
Maybe it is just me but I, for one, would appreciate an occasional
explanation to answer the FAQ of, "What does that mean?" :-)

================

Here's the Dr. Seuss version of the manual.

================

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
and the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
and the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort,
the socket packet pocket has an error to report.

If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash,
and the double clicking icons put your window in the trash,
and your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash,
then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash.

If the label on your cable on the gable at your house,
says the network is connected to the button on your mouse,
but your packets want to tunnel to another protocol,
that's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall.

And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss,
so your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse,
then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang,
'cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!

When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk,
and the microcode instructions cause unnecessary RISC,
then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM,
quickly turn off your computer ... and be sure to tell your Mom.

================

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. I didn't write this, so
don't blame me for that. You may blame me for wasting
bandwidth.

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Thank you!

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I managed to hang DOS (I tried to run a dummy file at the DOS prompt)
and <ctrl><alt><del> does nothing.  The screen shows high end ascii
characters after the DOS prompt, and the machine will not turn itself
off!!  (I just got this machine and do not have a manual so am feeling
pretty helpless... )

Is there a reset button?  Pulling the batteries (for a few minutes) does
not help...

TIA for any and all help!!

-Noel

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:28:00 +0200
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:

> Today I acquired 2 HP100lx 1MB machines (each with a 5MB Flash Disk and
> a cable for PC connection) and *no manuals*!  I hope to send these
> machines with our field crews into the wilderness next week.  They will
> download GPS location data onto the palmtops, a process we do on a PC
> when the crews are closer to civilization.  I am well-versed in DOS but
> know nothing about palmtops or Flash Disks.  I am under the gun to get
> this going so I am looking for some guidance in the following areas:

> II. Drive designations and Uses:
> With the Flash Disk in place, it appears to be referred to as drive A:
> *and* drive E: (!).

I think the flash disk is both drive A: and E: because some apps may not
want to run off a floppy (which A: is) or vice versa (may refuse to run
off anything but a floppy)... It is just the palmtops way of making sure
you can run both apps demanding to be run from a harddrive or a floppy.

> What is B:?
It could be a "fake" drive, like on most "normal" DOS computers with just
one floppy drive. I'm not sure, never used it :-)

> Is C: RAM?  If so, does everything on C: go away when power is off?

On the LX, _nothing_ goes away when the power is turned off. Those little
beasts have instant on, meaning you're right back where you left off when
you turn it on again.

> Also, is this (C:) where my program run (like RAM on a PC)?
> Looks like D: is ROM (where did I see that?); thus I cannot edit my
> autoexec and config?

On boot, the LX first looks for autoexec.bat + config.sys on the
C drive and if it doesn't find it there, it uses the one on drive D (ROM).
This means that if you want to alter the startup files, place them on
drive C (it might also work if you place them on the flash disk, but I'm
not sure (don't have flashcards myself)).

> What is G:?
Pass.

> III.Bootup:
> Can I use the FlashDisk to be an "emergency startup disk" (like "booting
> from A:" on a PC)?  If so, will "copy" work or are there "hidden
> files"?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?

Yes, you can use the flashdisk that way, but I leave a proper explanation
to an LX'er with more flashdisk experience. The D drive cannot be changed,
as it is ROM.

> IV. Care of Equip.
> I have read about the hinge crack so will advice the crews to go easy on
> opening & closing.  Should the FlashCard be left in or out or does it
> matter?  What is proper care of a Flash Card?

IMO, the best would be to keep the flashcard in all the time.

> *T*IA for any help and suggestions.  I have a lot more to learn about
> these gizmos--already I have a bunch of bookmarked sites to revisit on
> the net--but need to get the nitty gritty handled first...

Fire away if there's anything else. The hplx-list is one of the best
places for getting a fast answer :-)


Regards,

Laust
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To Patrick, Cathy, whoever?
These adrs get me all confused, you have to excuse me
I get confused very easily.

Does who have a url?
I don't?  but would like one if you're giving them away.

Why do you ask?

yor pal al...............

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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:

> I managed to hang DOS (I tried to run a dummy file at the DOS prompt)
> and <ctrl><alt><del> does nothing.  The screen shows high end ascii
> characters after the DOS prompt, and the machine will not turn itself
> off!!  (I just got this machine and do not have a manual so am feeling
> pretty helpless... )
>
> Is there a reset button?  Pulling the batteries (for a few minutes) does
> not help...

Press <ctrl><shift><on>. It will then ask you if you want to initialize
the ramdrive. If you answer YES, it will destroy the contents of drive C
(or rather, it will initialize it as if it was the first time you turned
on the LX - you lose all files on drive C). If you answer NO, then the
C-drive is hopefully intact - unless the crash ruined it (it can happen).

Answer NO the first time, and if your C-drive appears corrupt then do the
same procedure and asnwer YES.

(It might be a good idea to run chkdsk.exe, to see if the C drive is still
okay. Chkdsk is built-in).

Regards,

Laust

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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:
>
> > I managed to hang DOS (I tried to run a dummy file at the DOS prompt)
> > and <ctrl><alt><del> does nothing.  The screen shows high end ascii
> > characters after the DOS prompt, and the machine will not turn itself
> > off!!  (I just got this machine and do not have a manual so am feeling
> > pretty helpless... )
> >
> > Is there a reset button?  Pulling the batteries (for a few minutes) does
> > not help...
>
> Press <ctrl><shift><on>. It will then ask you if you want to initialize
> the ramdrive. If you answer YES, it will destroy the contents of drive C
> (or rather, it will initialize it as if it was the first time you turned
> on the LX - you lose all files on drive C). If you answer NO, then the
> C-drive is hopefully intact - unless the crash ruined it (it can happen).
>
> Answer NO the first time, and if your C-drive appears corrupt then do the
> same procedure and asnwer YES.
>
> (It might be a good idea to run chkdsk.exe, to see if the C drive is still
> okay. Chkdsk is built-in).

Good advice. Additionally, you have to use the LEFT shift key on the
<ctrl><shift><on> sequence. The RIGHT shift key doesn't do it on mine.

- Longden

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Al,

<<  manfs. >>

Which means?

<<  doc >>

Which means?


<< > You really gotta be a rocket to get it working >>

What does a rocket mean?

<<  info. >>

Which means?

No, don't answer this. C'mon I am just pulling your leg! :)

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Bill, after a few of these shenanigans with battery, consider
that your little backup battery can probably use replacement.
It is cheap insurance. The amount of power in it is very very
small. Having pulled batteries out and the machine starts
screaming means that some electrical power drove the speaker.
Guess what it was. Look for a CR2032 type battery. Buy it,
replace it. Fear less. :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Al,

> To sc and all product manfs.
> I agree that carousel doc sucks.

It has been a notorious "tough cookie". You may like the newer
edition much better.

> Then it should be tested by some office secretaries
> independantly and problems sorted out before printing.
> The sc manual seems to have all the paragraphs
> all jumbled up.

My secretary (if I had one) would shoot you for this nice an
sexist remark! :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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WA =3D Workarea. It is a term from SC (=3DSoftware Carousel). FYI
(=3DFor Your Information), we also call it here sometimes a
"session" or "DOS image".

Oh yes PC Card means Personal Computer card, and refers to
PCMCIA - oh sheesh, forgot what that means... :) > Morning guy

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

(D&A=3D D&A Software, Inc.) (D&A=3D Dara & Avi, the two founders
of D&A Software, Inc.) (Inc.=3DIncorporated)

I enjoyed this one Pal Al! :)

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Dear Rod,

> If these two problems are fixed in the new version, then I'll be
> lining up with my $20.  Thanks for the information Avi.

Wait and see. One of the problems is solved in a way that is
not satisfactory in my opinion. I think it can be improved. I
amd not specifying which because this thing is still in the
last stages of beta, so a better solution may emerge, and I am
interested to make this product work, not shoot holes in it
(it helps the usage of our products immensely, of course!)

> That means that ExmBatch should work with the new version without any
> problems.

No idea. No comment.

(Please understand: I am not trying to be obnoxious, it is
just that it is not quite final yet...)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Comments: To: Phil Tait <Philip.Tait@phxase.allied.com>

     Thanks Phil,

     I have been using Panasonic 1100mAh Ni-Cads. 2.5v is less than half
     discharged.

     Joe:-{>}


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Author:  Phil Tait <Philip.Tait@phxase.allied.com> at CCGATE
Date:    6/4/98 3:15 PM


Joe Buford wrote:

>          1) If the battery voltage, as indicated by the setup window, is in
> the
>      2.48-2.53v range, I get intermittent I/O errors. Below 2.48v the card
>      cannot be read even with a hard boot. When the voltage is above 2.53v
>      I can get an occasional I/O error(in some cases it may be because I
>      pressed a key while it was reading the card). This morning it would
>      not read the card with the voltage above 2.83v. A hard boot was
>      required to access the card. Has been OK the rest of today. I have
>      used the acecard drivers Ver 2.01 and 2.01J, they both seem to work
>      the same.

Try a pair of NiCds - they can source more current.

--

Philip J. Tait.....AlliedSignal Engines, Phoenix, Az.....+1.602.231.7104
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I have a mild misunderstanding about the Shift-F5 menu accessible from
the POST/LX main screen. I have mine set up to present my main Netcom
dialups that I use while traveling as well as the direct serial
connection to my Linux machine. When I select a menu item I see the
selection show up in the upper menu bar. This all works good.

When I leave POST/LX and then re-start, the connection has changed
back to the previous one which is the one that the WWW/LX setup
application shows. The menu setting doesn't seem to have any effect on
WWW/LX or any memory about its state. Is this correct?

Also, the docs state that you can add something like:

Home=3DDial=3D0123456
Office=3DDial=3D01234567

What exactly does this do? How does the machine know which dialup
script to use? I know I must be missing something here so clue me in.
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Well, being the type that can't leave a working device (I assume) alone I
opened my Sparcom Printstation docking station up.  Very interesting
indeed!  For those that don't know, it's a little docking platform
with a serial/parallel converter in it.

Inside the board says "FAXMODEM PCB" and there are a bunch of
unpopulated areas including one that looks like it would hold
a speaker and one that probably holds a modem module.  Hmm..

The serial connector is a bit of a surprise and disapointment.  I
thought I'd find some magic part number but it's just an HP
cable cut and hacked with a dremel tool or something.  Also,
only 3 data wires are used!  I've never heard of them coming out
with a modem version and maybe that's why? (or maybe it's like most
things electronic these days, by the time the board was etched the
modem modules were probably no longer available!).  Actually, the
reason for the limited wires on the serial just hit me - this thing
has "100LX Version" stickers on it.  Obviously it was originally
designed for the 95LX and they just changed the connector, yet the
PCB still only supports the few 95LX pins.

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Lognden,

> - Longden (obviously not young anymore)

Thanks for the assist, ol' man! :)

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DKM (=3DDear Ken Moore)5

ITIIOKTUAFTTTAAETWTQCU.ID.

Ok (=3Dno idea), I think it is ok to use acronyms from time to
time and also explain them when the question comes up. I did.

Guys/Gals here: No one posting here an idea how much the
readers do know or not about stuff we post. So if acronyms are
a mystery, please ask. I don't mind asking, and I don't think
anyone else should have a problem asking.

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Russ:

>   http://junior.apk.net/~jbarta/idiot/idiot.html

This is a gem. I have a similar contraption for Windows, that
makes icons and windows buttons fo the same... I think kaybe
just for that Java is worthwhile! :) This is funny. Thanks.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:55:46 -0400
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There have been quite many messages from people expressing a desire to
learn C.

Though C and assembler are my absolute favourite languages, I would like
to point out that Turbo Pascal

  - is far easier to learn,
  - is faster for development of programs as it protects you from yoursel=
f
  - can be used even for systems programming,
  - generally deliver exe-files of half the code size of C
    (C's run-time system is larger but also faster)
  - the compiler take up far less room than a C-compiler

C programs using floating point are HUGE compared to the same programs
written in TP; TP floating point is however significantly slower.

Unless you want an integrated environment (shudder!), you only need for
Turbo Pascal 5 something like

  tpc.exe    61926
  turbo.tpl  44352
  tpc.cfg       46

If you want to use it for object-oriented programming you need a few
extra units.

If you want to develop graphics programs, you also need:

  graph.tpu  31584
  cga.bgi     6632
  plus perhaps a few graphics fonts

Turbo Pascal 7 is slightly bigger (compiler tpc.exe 75K).

I routinely rewrite some of the C-programs I use on my desktop to TP for
the HP-LX just to get the code size down.

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:12:53 -0700
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Well, being the type that can't leave a working device...alone I
> opened my Sparcom Printstation docking station up.

> The serial connector is a bit of a surprise and disapointment.  I
> thought I'd find some magic part number but it's just an HP
> cable cut and hacked with a dremel tool or something.

Hmmm,

So Steve,

It sounds like I could get a project box, a cable and power adapter and
wire up my own.




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              Nedim Cholich <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
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> There have been quite many messages from people expressing a desire to
> learn C.
>
> Though C and assembler are my absolute favourite languages, I would like
> to point out that Turbo Pascal
>
>   - is far easier to learn,
>   - is faster for development of programs as it protects you from yourself
>   - can be used even for systems programming,
>   - generally deliver exe-files of half the code size of C
>     (C's run-time system is larger but also faster)
>   - the compiler take up far less room than a C-compiler
<snip>

Amen!

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:25:25 -0700
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Mitch,

Shift-F5 picks an _overriding_ setup from the ones in WWW.CFG.
This will be picked up for _that_ specific time you go online.
It is not an edit and change of WWW.CFG. Use WWWSETUP.EXE for
that.

> When I leave POST/LX and then re-start, the connection has changed
> back to the previous one which is the one that the WWW/LX setup
> application shows. The menu setting doesn't seem to have any effect on
> WWW/LX or any memory about its state. Is this correct?

Yes, because when you run WWW.EXE it uses WWW.CFG when you
specified _which_ setup to use.

ÝNote: I indent all my lines by one space - it NOT valid in
the CFG files!¨

In the ÝWWW¨ section in POST.CFG you specify the pair

displayname=3Dsetupname

But if in that particular setup you want to override a value
such as Dial, yyou can specify the overriding value here.

Go back to the command line parameters of WWW.EXE (not
Post.EXE) You can specify overrides to the default (or chosen
setup). So say my setup says

 ÝXYZ_ISP¨
 ...
 ...
 ...
 Dial=3D555 212 1111
 ...

That is the number that will be dialled when I run WWW.EXE and
XYZ_ISP is my chosen setup.

But I can run WWW.EXE like this:

 www Dial=3D2221113333

And the number that will be dialled will be 2221113333, not
5552121111.

Now carry the same mechanism to override certain parameters in a
Setup to POST.

In POST.CFG in section ÝWWW¨, you have

 ÝWWW¨
 BlahISP=3DXYZ_ISP
 Dial=3D7778889999

Now, with Shift F5 you will select BlahISP, so that Post tells
WWW.EXE to use XYZ_ISP Setup form WWW.CFG, and oh, BTW,
override the Dial string in ÝXYZ_ISP¨ (which is now
5552121111), will be replaced with 7778889999. But only for
the next dial! It is a temporary override, NOT a change to
WWW.CFG, so next time the default will be used.

Hope this helps.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:32:39 -0700
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Cool indeed! I've confirmed that unDIETing all my files solves the problem.

Larry Mittell

At 06:47 PM 6/2/98 +1000, you wrote:
>> Bingo! You hit the nail on the head, Brendan. I had completely forgotten
>> that I had compressed the files in question with Diet. It just goes to show
>> you how transparent Diet is.
>How cool was that!? A complete guess!

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C.Schimm

Need your email adrs.   send me email with a return adrs
Also I cannot send binary through this list.  It has to go directly to you.
I've been bounced uploading binarys through here.

Write direct to hobchi@aol.com

yor pal al......................................

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:37:40 -0400
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I E-mailed to Sparcom, and they said they still had
Station 100 and Station 100 Plus which work with
a 200LX.

I wanted to get Print Station, so I don't know if
I should get it or not. Does anyone have any
comments on it?

They said Station 100 was $79.95 and
Sation 100 Plus was $99.95.

Thank you,
Yujin

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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:56:02 -0700
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Is there an easy straight forward way to get my HP in Sync with Outlook98 on
my desktop? That is my desktop program at work, it is connected to an
Exchange Server.  I would like to update daily and possibly do the same with
my home PC.  Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks  delos@pe.net

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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> I E-mailed to Sparcom, and they said they still had
> Station 100 and Station 100 Plus which work with
> a 200LX.

> They said Station 100 was $79.95 and
> Sation 100 Plus was $99.95.
>

So what is the difference between station 100 and station 100 plus?


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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:38:17 -0400
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> So what is the difference between station 100 and station 100 plus?

He said the Station 100 plus comes with a connectivity software.

Regards,
Yujin

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Where is the HP PIM for Windows to be found?
I once downloaded it from a site that I can not remember.
I got the impression that it was freeware.

  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

                    64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

                    10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
                    20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
                    30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Guys,

I=27ve spent some time in getting Clipper 5.3 to run under OS/2 (no =
success with =2795%-Ready), only to find that the code is enormous and =
needs a 286=21

Does anyone know if using the real-mode linker will allow the app to run =
on my 200LX? If so, how do I persuade the Workbench to use Blinker instead =
of the protected-mode linker and ignore Exospace.

Thanks in advance

Phil


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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:46:05 +0200
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** Nur Empf-nger **




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>>> Noel Weaver <n.weaver=40USA.NET> 04.06.98 20.50 >>>
Today I acquired 2 HP100lx 1MB machines (each with a 5MB Flash Disk and
a cable for PC connection) and *no manuals*=21  I hope to send these
machines with our field crews into the wilderness next week.  They will
download GPS location data onto the palmtops, a process we do on a PC
when the crews are closer to civilization.  I am well-versed in DOS but
know nothing about palmtops or Flash Disks.  I am under the gun to get
this going so I am looking for some guidance in the following areas:

I. Palmtop-to-PC:
I need to put =22load.exe=22 (a DOS program) on the palmtop.  How do I get
the palmtop to talk to my PC so I can do this?  I have attached the
serial cable and tried to establish connection (via
Filer=7CCommunications) but it won=27t recognize a connection.  I did not
fiddle with the =22Remote Settings.=22  Can I copy from PC to palmtop and
vice-versa using what is =22standard=22 software on the palmtop?  Should =
the
PC be running DOS?  I don=27t want anything fancy here, just to be able to
copy files back and forth.

I=27ve used the teminal software in Windows 3.1, 95, OS/2 (ZOC), Telix, =
LapLink V3 (the one I use at the moment). If you use the terminal programs =
along with the one built into the LX (If I remember correctly, it=27s Ctrl =
and one of the Blue-keys) then use Z-Modem to send/Recieve the file.

II. Drive designations and Uses:
With the Flash Disk in place, it appears to be referred to as drive A:
*and* drive E: (=21).
What is B:?
Is C: RAM?  If so, does everything on C: go away when power is off?
Also, is this (C:) where my program run (like RAM on a PC)?
Looks like D: is ROM (where did I see that?); thus I cannot edit my
autoexec and config?
What is G:?

A: is reassigned E: - that=27s why you can use both.
C: is a Ramdisk, with battery backup so you don=27t loose your data when =
you power down.
D: is ROM - if you want ot edit Config.sys and Autoexec.bat, copy them to =
the C: drive using Filer


III.Bootup:
Can I use the FlashDisk to be an =22emergency startup disk=22 (like =
=22booting
from A:=22 on a PC)?  If so, will =22copy=22 work or are there =22hidden
files=22?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?

Yes. Copy Config and Autoexec to A: then alter the Boot options (press Alt =
when you see the message after a =22three finger salute=22 (Ctl-Alt-Del) - =
well known to Windows users :)

IV. Care of Equip.
I have read about the hinge crack so will advice the crews to go easy on
opening & closing.  Should the FlashCard be left in or out or does it
matter?  What is proper care of a Flash Card?

*T*IA for any help and suggestions.  I have a lot more to learn about
these gizmos--already I have a bunch of bookmarked sites to revisit on
the net--but need to get the nitty gritty handled first...

Noel Weaver
n.weaver=40usa.net=20

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Ken,

there=27s a file of acronyms available at palmtop.net/super - haven=27t =
had time to look yet but maybe it=27ll help those of us who have problems..=


Phil


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>>> =22Ken A. Moore=22 <KenAMoore=40OMNITRAINING.COM> 04.06.98 21.15 >>>
SPC shows that ESD as called out in IPC which is an ANSI document could be =
detrimental to an SOIC and QFP in a PC.
Additionally, a BGA and the new CSP configuation could suffer a fractured =
solder joint due to CTE.
Now, these are all acronyms that are commonly used in the industry I am =
involved in. Confusing to those outside of my circles. Am I the only one =
who gets frustrated with acronyms that are not commonly known by the =
community at large? Maybe it is just me but I, for one, would appreciate =
an occasional explanation to answer the FAQ of, =22What does that mean?=22 =
:-)
Avi, you are an admired teacher, what do you think?
Ken Moore
----------<snip>------------
Avi & another wrote;
There was a dangerous bug which destroyed PC Card when you
opened a file in one WA, switched to another WA, then changed
cards, and returned to the original WA. SC did not recognise
the PC Ard change and wrote on top of the new card an image of
the old stuff, causing a bit of a havoc, if not more of a
havoc...really. When you switch from WA to WA.... did it too, hence an =
=22inconvenience=22 not a
bug IMHO. --- Fixed in some fashion.

> Is there any change to the programmer=27s API ?
  Avi M. =5BD&A=5D

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi,

I=27ve not managed to find the connectivity pack as of yet, but here=27s =
the URL for Transfile, which a=27ve just tried and can well recomend

Phil


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>>> Patrick West <pccare=40TELEPORT.COM> 29.05.98 20.57 >>>
On Fri, 29 May 1998, Jim Krist wrote:

> I think you=27re running DOS under windows if you=27re using the basic =
HP
> connectivity pack that I am.  DOS don=27t know =27nothing =27bout no
> clipboard.  Same thing=27s true for any DOS app on windows, as far as I
> know.

nope, this is the Windows 3.1 version of the two apps
Both are windows apps report version  A.01.11
I=27ve tried them under OS/2=27s windows, under Win95 and real Win3.1 on =
top
of PC DOS 7



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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi,

I=27ve not managed to find the connectivity pack as of yet, but here=27s =
the URL for Transfile, which a=27ve just tried and can well recomend

Phil

http://hpcc937.external.hp.com:9000/cgi-bin/awss/remote_search/phoenix.cgi


p.s. Sorry for wating bandwidth with the last message - I forgot the URL


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Greetings All:

08h12m39s ago ...
On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> I E-mailed to Sparcom, and they said they still had
> Station 100 and Station 100 Plus which work with
> a 200LX.
>
> I wanted to get Print Station, so I don't know if
> I should get it or not. Does anyone have any
> comments on it?

I use my Station 100 dialy for the past 2yrs. Works great. I thought it
would save the 10 pins on the serial port from premature
failure(although I am not aware that is a problem like the "hinge
crack"). I have the serial cable attached to my W95 box, and use
TransFile or AceLink for file transfer/BackUp & OmniPrint(freeware, let
me know if you want a copy) for printing to my TI printer thru the W95
machine.

Cheers,
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On 06-04 04:05pm, you had written

-> Be thankful there isn't any JAVA script for the web browser in WWWLX,
-> otherwise you'd be pulling your hair out at...
->

I'll second that emotion!  Proprietary versions of a "platform
independent" program structure...  Oh, brother.


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On 06-04 05:28pm, you had written

-> On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:
->
->
-> > What is B:?
-> It could be a "fake" drive, like on most "normal" DOS computers with just
-> one floppy drive. I'm not sure, never used it :-)
->

That is correct.  It is there (unusable) so that the ram area becomes
the C: drive and is bootable.

-> > Is C: RAM?  If so, does everything on C: go away when power is off?
->
-> On boot, the LX first looks for autoexec.bat + config.sys on the
-> C drive and if it doesn't find it there, it uses the one on drive D (ROM).
-> This means that if you want to alter the startup files, place them on
-> drive C (it might also work if you place them on the flash disk, but I'm
-> not sure (don't have flashcards myself)).
->
The boot sequence is A,C, then D.


-> > What is G:?
-> Pass.

Me too.

->
-> > III.Bootup:
-> > Can I use the FlashDisk to be an "emergency startup disk" (like "booting
-> > from A:" on a PC)?  If so, will "copy" work or are there "hidden
-> > files"?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?
->
-> Yes, you can use the flashdisk that way, but I leave a proper explanation
-> to an LX'er with more flashdisk experience. The D drive cannot be changed,
-> as it is ROM.
->

Yes, because the HPLX will look for config and autoexec files on A:
first.

-> Regards,
->
-> Laust


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I've uploaded to SUPER site the 0.9 beta version of the LXTOOLS DOS port.

Please, feel free to download and test it. Report any
bugs/suggestions/improvements to:

Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez <igp@vlc.servicom.es>

Full source code will be available in the first non beta version, which
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Regards. Nacho.

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I have the same (I got it partly on Al's recommendation) and have loved
it for past 1-2 years.  I don't find I need OmniPrint because Ctrl-P
works using the CPACK software (it allows me to print files that are on
my palmtop).  I use CPACK or TransFile.  I also use an SCM SwapBox for
backups of my flashdisk.

Good luck.

- Danny

Text of message from MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU, 5 Jun 1998, 06:56 AM
> Greetings All:
>
> 08h12m39s ago ...
> On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Yujin Nagasawa wrote:
>
> > I E-mailed to Sparcom, and they said they still had
> > Station 100 and Station 100 Plus which work with
> > a 200LX.
> >
> > I wanted to get Print Station, so I don't know if
> > I should get it or not. Does anyone have any
> > comments on it?
>
> I use my Station 100 dialy for the past 2yrs. Works great. I thought it
> would save the 10 pins on the serial port from premature
> failure(although I am not aware that is a problem like the "hinge
> crack"). I have the serial cable attached to my W95 box, and use
> TransFile or AceLink for file transfer/BackUp & OmniPrint(freeware, let
> me know if you want a copy) for printing to my TI printer thru the W95
> machine.
>

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What is "G"?

A wild guess is that you have some sort of PCMCIA card installed.  If
you have anything like a Smart Fax/Modem & Memory... it assigns the on
card memory a "virtual" drive .... in my case F:

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>
>On 06-04 05:28pm, you had written
>
>-> On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:
>->
>->
>-> > What is B:?
>-> It could be a "fake" drive, like on most "normal" DOS computers with just
>-> one floppy drive. I'm not sure, never used it :-)
>->
>
>That is correct.  It is there (unusable) so that the ram area becomes
>the C: drive and is bootable.
>
>-> > Is C: RAM?  If so, does everything on C: go away when power is off?
>->
>-> On boot, the LX first looks for autoexec.bat + config.sys on the
>-> C drive and if it doesn't find it there, it uses the one on drive D (ROM).
>-> This means that if you want to alter the startup files, place them on
>-> drive C (it might also work if you place them on the flash disk, but I'm
>-> not sure (don't have flashcards myself)).
>->
>The boot sequence is A,C, then D.
>
>
>-> > What is G:?
>-> Pass.
>
>Me too.
>
>->
>-> > III.Bootup:
>-> > Can I use the FlashDisk to be an "emergency startup disk" (like "booting
>-> > from A:" on a PC)?  If so, will "copy" work or are there "hidden
>-> > files"?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?
>->
>-> Yes, you can use the flashdisk that way, but I leave a proper explanation
>-> to an LX'er with more flashdisk experience. The D drive cannot be changed,
>-> as it is ROM.
>->
>
>Yes, because the HPLX will look for config and autoexec files on A:
>first.
>
>-> Regards,
>->
>-> Laust
>
>
>-
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Since trading up from a 100LX (with f1021A) to a 200LX (with f1021B), I have
switched Connectivity Packs. My old (100) CPack worked just fine on my NT
Workstation system at work, but I am having problems with the new one. It
installed fine, and the system manager comes up fine, but when i try to start
the Filer app, I get a wierd block of distored video, the screen flashes, and
control returns to the SM with no error messages or anything thing else.
        Has anyone gotten F1021B or C to work in NT? If so, How?
Is there a significant difference between B and C? Thanks for the help.
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I just replaced it two days before the "screaming" started.  It only
wailed for 5 seconds, max.  I changed those AAs faster than an Indy 500
pit crew... Do you think the speaker drained that coin cell that fast?
According to Buddy, it's still at 3.00V.

Thanks,
Bill

> Bill, after a few of these shenanigans with battery, consider
> that your little backup battery can probably use replacement.
> It is cheap insurance. The amount of power in it is very very
> small. Having pulled batteries out and the machine starts
> screaming means that some electrical power drove the speaker.
> Guess what it was. Look for a CR2032 type battery. Buy it,
> replace it. Fear less. :)
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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The answer is "maybe". Many older flash cards required adriver in config.sys to access the pre-ATA flash card. And
some of the newest cards won't run on the 100LX (? without
a driver ?). So if you completely lose memory on the 100LX,
you may not be able to access A:.

Look at config.sys for device drivers on c:

> III.Bootup:
> Can I use the FlashDisk to be an "emergency startup disk" (like "booting
> from A:" on a PC)?  If so, will "copy" work or are there "hidden
> files"?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?

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I picked up an Accton EN2216-1 ethernet card ($70) from CompUSA Online last
week. Combined with the Accton drivers (LXETHER3.ZIP) on SUPER, the NFS Client
Software (XFS180.ZIP) that I just posted today and some help from David
Sargeant, I have a 200LX that's fully on my home ethernet. I have read/write
access to any drives I export from my Linux NFS server and also have network
printing through LPT1. This all works from either DOS or System Manager. David
is doing the same thing (less the printing) with a Win95 machine running an NFS
emulator of some sort. If you are tired of being limited to serial or parallel
speeds, this is a low cost alternative to check into.

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Raymond Wick <chainsaw@DMV.COM> wrote:
 =

>Can someone explain the self tests (Esc + On) to me?  Specifically the
>keyboard and display tests.  I have to Esc in order to get to each scree=
n
of
>the display test, and the keyboard test takes over 1 hour to run.  Is th=
is
>normal?

The display test requires you to press the ESC key so that you can see =

each screen and check that it looks OK before you move on to the next
one. For the keyboard test, just press each key on the keyboard in turn,
when all keys have been pressed and detected, the test will move onto
the next one. This only way to check a keyboard is to press every key
after all.

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Where can I find the XHS180 software?

Karl

At 12:37 PM 6/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I picked up an Accton EN2216-1 ethernet card ($70) from CompUSA Online last
>week. Combined with the Accton drivers (LXETHER3.ZIP) on SUPER, the NFS
Client
>Software (XFS180.ZIP) that I just posted today and some help from David
>Sargeant, I have a 200LX that's fully on my home ethernet. I have read/write
>access to any drives I export from my Linux NFS server and also have network
>printing through LPT1. This all works from either DOS or System Manager.
David
>is doing the same thing (less the printing) with a Win95 machine running
an NFS
>emulator of some sort. If you are tired of being limited to serial or
parallel
>speeds, this is a low cost alternative to check into.
>
>Mitch
>S.U.P.E.R. Team
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It's also worth mentioning that the Accton ethernet cards draw much less
current, but deliver much higher speeds, than a 33.6 modem.

Of course, you have to be in an ethernet-capable location.  <g>

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Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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You need ACECARD.COM to run the newer ATA flash cards on the 100LX.  I have
a SimpleTech 40 mb card in my 100LX, Model STI-ATAFL/40, and it runs great.
 Transfers well to Toshiba T2110 Notebook and Omnibook 530, in both cases
without the extra driver.  I keep a backup of C:\*.* on an HP 5mb card
(model F1018A), which does not need the ACECARD.COM driver, so you can use
it as an "emergency startup disk".

>The answer is "maybe". Many older flash cards required a driver in
config.sys to access the pre-ATA flash card. And
>some of the newest cards won't run on the 100LX (? without
>a driver ?). So if you completely lose memory on the 100LX,
>you may not be able to access A:.
>
>Look at config.sys for device drivers on c:
>
>> III.Bootup:
>> Can I use the FlashDisk to be an "emergency startup disk" (like "booting
>> from A:" on a PC)?  If so, will "copy" work or are there "hidden
>> files"?  Also, how do I restore the goodies to D:?
>

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:09:35 GMT
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Well I finally got LXTCP/PNR running, and very nice it is too. You may =
all
recall a couple of frustrated messages from here about my inability to =
get
epppd.exe to load. It finally transpired that the "connect" line in
pppd.cfg, which contains a call to chat.exe, failed when presented with a
path to chat.exe. I changed the line to read:

connect "chat -v -f chatscr"

and all was well!  You may notice that I've removed the -r switch to set
reporting on - it doesn't seem necessary now it's all working OK.

I have had a couple of timeout problems collecting mail, so I intend to
have a play with the mru and mtu settings - I understand that setting =
these
down to a lower figure from the default 1500 can help with slower links.=20

To enhance the usability a little, I've written a quick and dirty program
which asks which services I require, then writes out a batch file for
dialup.bat to call once the ppp connection is made. If anyone wants a =
copy,
they're welcome. Those with a c compiler can just use this code:

------------------------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>

void main(void)
{
   char command;
   FILE *outfile;

   printf("Please select service(s) required:\n\n");
   printf("1 - get mail only\n");
   printf("2 - get mail & news\n");
   printf("3 - get mail then stay online\n");
   printf("4 - get mail & news then stay online\n\n");
   command =3D getchar();

   outfile =3D fopen("pnrcomm.bat", "w");
   fprintf(outfile, "lxpop\n");

   switch (command)
   {
      case '1': break;
      case '2': {fprintf(outfile, "lxnntp\n"); break;}
      case '3': {fprintf(outfile, "command\n"); break;}
      case '4': {fprintf(outfile, "lxnntp\ncommand\n"); break;}
   }
   fclose(outfile);
}
------------------------------------------------------

My amended dialup.bat (below) does a little checking along the way. I've
also removed the call to pnrti, because that would run every time,
regardless of the connection working or not. It seems better to manually
set it off when I know there is mail/news to index.

@echo off
REM get desired services for this run
if exist pnrcomm.bat del pnrcomm.bat
ask
if not exist pnrcomm.bat goto COMMFAIL
REM save prompt string
set saved=3D%prompt%
set prompt=3DÝPPP¨ $p$g
REM load the packet driver
if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat
epppd file a:\pnr\pppd.cfg
if not exist ip-up.bat goto PKTFAIL
set wattcp.cfg=3Da:\pnr
REM execute services required
call pnrcomm.bat
REM unload packet driver
termin 0x68
REM reset prompt string
set prompt=3D%saved%
goto FINISH
:COMMFAIL
echo *** No requested services - aborting ***
goto FINISH
:PKTFAIL
echo *** Packet driver failed to load - aborting ***
:FINISH

Well I hope this experience will show that considerable lateral thinking
can be required to get computers going sometimes. I also hope it prompts =
a
few others to give Rod's wonderful baby a go. I must Thank Rod, and the
others who offered to help along the way.

(Does that cover our agreement Rod? :-) )

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:10:37 -0400
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Hi Folks,
Warning - Long and Probably Boring to Most.  I apologize in advance.  =

Usually I end up begging info from the always helpful and often briallian=
t
people who grace this list.  Maybe someone will get some use out of these=

ideas for modem connections overseas.  Heck, even back home (USA) there a=
re
places that are hard to plug into.
Everyone knows or has heard about the difficulty of getting plugged into =
a
hotel telephone outlet esp in older hotel properties or less advanced
countries.  Add to this the plethora of connection methods and you can ju=
st
go crazy trying to connect.  I won't even get into electrical outlets and=

stepdown transformers (220 to 110v).
Of course you can go the Tele-Adapt route but I thought the prices they
charge for telephone plug adaptors was pretty outrageous especially if
you're able to walk around whatever city you find yourself in and buy the=
m
for a buck or two.  I bought an adaptor for a buck at the KMart in Prague=

for example.  It's about $6.00 from Tele=3DAdapt. Don't forget to ask the=

concierge for adaptors either.   That's part of the price you pay for the=

room anyway.  Forget about this though in many of the renowned ex-Soviet
states though.
So, over the years I have developed a kit that I can tailor to meet my
needs.
This is what I usually carry:
Konnex acoustic coupler
A short cable with RJ11 and 4 micro alligator clips at the ends (how to
below)
A short cable with RJ11 and RJ45 (I think that's the designator - they ar=
e
the flatter, newer modular plug) at the ends.
A retractable telephone cable spool or one of the cassette sized tel cabl=
es
which rewinds into itself.  This is to use with the two cables above.
The appropriate telephone plug adaptor if known.
Spare 14.4 modem (Bought an XJack/Gateway  from Marine Park Electronics i=
n
NYC for $19.99 except the sobs charged me $20 for shipping to a WDC
address!  Caveat Emptor with these clowns.)
A  female/female plug connector to connect the short cable with the spool=

or cassette above. =

IBM modem voltage tester =

One plug two outlet T shape plug adaptor.  This in case you want to retai=
n
the telephone set as you might have to do manual dial to get out first wi=
th
some programs.   Test first.
Zelco 2 aaa flashlight.  Not sure if this the one Mitch likes or not.  It=

has the wraparound gooseneck with lamp on the end.  I tried the PCL Trave=
l
Light and Clip but it was just too big and unwieldy.  But it is kind of
cool.
Small Screwdriver kit (Bought a black plastic kit not much bigger than a
pack of matches which has a head and 4 bits for about $5 someplace.) =

Alternatively,  a Leatherman tool/Swiss Army knife/ or your entire Sears
tool kit can be useful.
Some cable tapes to keep the stuff from becoming a mess of spaghetti.  I
like the double sided velcro stuff.
Sometimes I carry the ac adaptor.  Short trip i just use batteries.  Out =
of
the way place I bring it along with an extension cord and yet more
electrical outlet adaptors. Probably a website which lists this somewhere=

but since I don't have www access, it was, initially at least,  trial and=

error for me.
I used to store this stuff in those toiletry kits the airlines give out. =

(The Saudi airlines had great ones!  But that's a steep price to pay <G>)=
 =

Lately I've been using a Case Logic (3.5 x 8 in / 11.5 x 24 cm) padded ki=
t
which only cost about $10.  It has spaces for PC Cards which I did not fi=
nd
useful.  To this case I added lots of velcro and velcroed in the
flashlight, cassette tel cable, T plug,  cable tapes.  The palmtop fits i=
n
there nicely and you can even jam some gear into but I prefer to make it
the tool kit and use the HP while enroute anyway.  Like most overly
obsessive HP'ers, I have 3-4 cases for it.

In newer hotels, you'll find many with the new RJ-45 (I think it's called=
)
for their data connections.  It's been my experience that this data outle=
t
is usually okay when checked by the IBM tester whereas the telephone outl=
et
is over (usually b/c it's a PBX or other system).  I've seen these in
Muscat and Tel Aviv.
In older hotels and such, you can clip your alligator clips into the sock=
et
which sometimes is hanging off the wall making it fairly easy to do so. =

Always check your connection with the IBM tester.  The tel cable colors a=
re
nearly meaningless as there is no universal standard.  Usually you have t=
o
try a couple of combinations.
I have used the Konnexx to get my email from a telephone booth as well in=

Amsterdam.  Hotels, esp in Europe, have connect charges from the hotel fo=
r
6 sec increments in addition to the cost of the call.  A huge rip-off in =
my
humble opinion.  Hence the phone booth or telephone kiosk option.  Don't
forget the at3 command to shut down the "foreign" dial tone which some
modems don't recognize.  =

The Konexx also works on PBX systems since you simply place the coupler
over the telephone handset.  I've hit 28.8 on occasions with this.  YMMV.=


Anyway, some ideas:
I bought a telephone cable kit for about $12-15 from Wal-Mart which
includes the "tel cable pliers", modular RJ-11 plugs (this is the kind we=

use in the USA for the most part) and some cable.  The pliers strips the
telephone cable and crimps the modular plug onto it.  I made several.  Th=
e
two above seem to cover most and I kept them short --  6-10 inches (18 cm=
 =3D
6 in) in length to keep bulk down since they connect to the spool or
cassette of tel cable via a female/female plug.  I had heard about an
alligator clip a few years back and have used this even in European 4-5
star hotels with crummy telephone support.  Some  places have "Business
Centers" which are sometimes about as useful as the "Gyms" with one beat =
up
stationary bicycle.  Anyway, people get real nervous if you start pulling=

wires out of the wall.   So be neat and put it all back together again. =

Admittedly, things have gotten much better in the past few years but ther=
e
are still some remarkably communication unfriendly places in countries
where you'd expect much more.  (No names to protect the innocent plus I'm=

not wearing flame retardant underwear.)

Hope this helps a bit.
Cheers from the unwired country of Syria!
tom

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:13:46 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Oops. I think you're the one who is sexist. You assumed that a secretary
is always a woman.


There are also a lot of homosexual men that are secretaries.... ;-)


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   A. Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
                Sent:   Thursday, June 04, 1998 6:51 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ switch it - software
carousel

                Al,

                > To sc and all product manfs.
                > I agree that carousel doc sucks.

                It has been a notorious "tough cookie". You may like the
newer
                edition much better.

                > Then it should be tested by some office secretaries
                > independantly and problems sorted out before printing.
                > The sc manual seems to have all the paragraphs
                > all jumbled up.

                My secretary (if I had one) would shoot you for this
nice an
                sexist remark! :)

                  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Just a note I had to have my memory upgrade replaced because it was defective.
It started to use batteries like crazy and would drain the backup battery and
do all sorts of wierd things.  Mar Can replaced it and it has been working
fine since then.  They said that some of the last lot of memory that NSW got
had been baked at too high a temperature and caused some chips to fail.

Maybe this will help

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What is the URL or e-mail address for sparcom?

Scott

At 01:38 AM 6/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> So what is the difference between station 100 and station 100 plus?
>
>He said the Station 100 plus comes with a connectivity software.
>
>Regards,
>Yujin
>
>----------
>Yujin Nagasawa
>State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
>E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:49:24 -0400
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This message was sent to the SUPER Team and I don't know anything about this
program. Maybe some of the old hands out there recall it...

-------------------------
Dear sir/madam,

I would like to know if you have any idea where I could find the program
"ABKCVT" for the HP95LX. This program is converting the appointmentbook
file format (*.ABK) into a (delimited !?) asci format and vice versa.
As I searched the net I found the name of the program "ABKCVT" however I
can't find the file anywhere. It should be at HP handhelds forum at
compuserve. No hits however.
I would appreciate if you could inform me on any program that does the
conversion appointment book files *.ABK to an accesible format and vice
versa.
It need to work on a HP95LX.

Thanks for your effort

Greeting Robert

Robert Parker Brady
The Netherlands

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:50:17 -0400
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The guy's email address who is looking for the 95LX program is:

Robert Parker Brady <robertpb@IAEhv.nl>


Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Hi,

I'm having problems getting my LX running ZIP.COM (the file xfer utility)
to communicate with a Digital Hi-note (laptop) over IR. The two can
communicate just fine over IR using either terminal programs (Bananacom on
the Hi-note, built-in on the LX) and using the newly released LXTOOLS DOS
port.

Zip however refuses no matter what speed I specify. It simply returns
<error>, which isn't very helpful.

According to ZIP's documentation, it should work, so I'm baffled. Can
anyone help?

Regards,

Laust
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To all whe see these greetings;

Maybe if the acronyms are not common
to write out the phrase the first time its used.

Less effort to write and reply for everybodies.

yor pal al.........................

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CPACK is at palmtop.net
select SUPER.

yor pal al.................

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Hello to the list,

Has anyone out there come across an icon for Excel?

Does anyone know how to get the icons from current applications (W95, etc.)
and port them for use on the HP?  Or is this just not possible?

TIA,

Claud

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To all who see this greeings;

In sysmgr; has anyone encounter the following two problems.....
They seem so common, yet I haven't heard of anyone mentioning them.

1. While working in (any) database the highlight goes on and one can
delete a lot of stuff not intended.  Or when doing numbers, the highlight
goes on and you gotta muck around a bit to get back to normal.

1a. While I can DELete a number of records, I can't highlight a group of
records to copy to another database.

2. Can't get the CAPITALs (sft/CAPs) key to stick.  Can't type in
CAPITALs without holding down the shift key.

Has anyone encountered these minor problems?   I've been living with
this since day one. The have occured on all of the LX 200s I've seen.

yor pal al........................................

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I have a Sundisk (Now called Sandisk) 10MB SDP-10 10MB flask card for sale.
I just upgraded to a 40MB card so I'm selling the SDP-10.

Asking $70.00 which includes shipping and insurance within the continental United States.

Rodger
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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:53:23 -0400
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> Does anyone know how to get the icons from current applications (W95, etc.)
> and port them for use on the HP?  Or is this just not possible?

Searching for "icon" on the SUPER Site will turn up "Icon Browser" by Mark
Virtue which will convert Windows *.ICO icons to palmtop icons.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Hi,
I'm using Berlitz interpreter (version 1.30), this is a 5 language translater,
It's an old and small ( 840K) DOS prog but there is only 12500 world per language.
regards
(english, Francais, deutshe, espagnol, italiano)
If some one have another French/English translator,
please, Tell me.

I would like to try a dictionnary like Heritage too.

Please help a Frog lost in a Kangarou contry.
Alain


> Does anyone know of a Spanish-English-Spanish Dictionary for the HPLX?  Any
> hints as to where (ala websites) that I might find such software?  Since I
> work with Maquilladoras frequently it would help tremendously.   It would
> be great if I could add words to it as well.
> Regards,
> Jim Johnson
> Carmel, Indiana USA

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:28:00 -0700
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I dont think it is freeware, although HP ships it on all their notebooks
along with the HP15C calculator software.

--mikeb
>
> Where is the HP PIM for Windows to be found?
> I once downloaded it from a site that I can not remember.
> I got the impression that it was freeware.
>
>   /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***
>
>                     64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
>
>                     10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
>                     20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
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>                     40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
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How do I get my Mac to understand my 100xl? (and the other way around.)

thanx

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:00:23 -0400
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> What is the URL or e-mail address for sparcom?
>
> Scott

Scott,

Here is his E-mail:

>Tuesday AM 6/2/98
>
>Dear Mr. Nagasawa:
>
>Yes, the docking station for the 200LX is still available.  You may choose
>from the following options:
>
>Station100 (PN 27710-1A) - $79.95
>*Serial Connection: The standard 9 pin connection allows for easy
>communication between the 100 and 200LX and computers, serial printers,
the
>Drive100 and other serial devices.
>*AC Power: While connected, saves costly AA batteries.
>
>Station100 Plus (PN 27700-1A) - $99.95
>same as above, plus:
>*Connectivity Software: Data Exchange software provides easy to use data
>transfer in both DOS and Windows.
>
>If you would like to place an order I will need to know which option you
>would like, to what address and how you would like it shipped, and a
method
>of payment (a credit card number is easiest).  You may also call (800)
>677-7001 and I, or whoever answers the phone, will be happy to help you.
>
>Thank you for your inquiry.  Please let me know when I can be of further
>assistance.
>
>Marion Beers
>Marketing Coordinator

Regards,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

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Thank you very much for the information!!
Let me ask some quetions?

How do you connect the startion to 200LX?
How big  is it?

Thank you,
Yujin

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Thank you very much for the information!!

Let me ask some questions.
How do you connect it to  HP 200LX?
Hog big is it?

Thank you,
Yujin

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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:10:37 -0400, "thomas e. nemeth"
<103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

Here's my 2 cents, as a US resident having just spent 2.5 weeks in Italy:
 * For email I love the POST/LX interface but POP3 downloads with
transoceanic long distance rates are absurdly slow and expensive. Back to
the UNIX shell, uqwk, and Micky Leaver's PNR version 1.2 for huge speed
gains.
 * Not all lines that the IBM Modem Saver likes will actually work.
 * The Konnex Koupler acoustic modem adapter is pretty nice. I only had a
14.4 pocket modem but did get full speeds in some rooms. In others I had
to choke it down to 4800 bps (see note about POP3 speed!)

> Hotels, esp in Europe, have connect charges from the hotel for
> 6 sec increments in addition to the cost of the call.  A huge
> rip-off in my humble opinion.

 * Get your calling card's access number. Staying at 2-4 star albergoes I
was never charged for dialing 172-1022 (MCI's Italian toll-free number),
though none of them had rates listed in the rooms.
 * The only places I could not use the RJ11 cable cassette (that Mitch
sells at http://www.palmtop.net/commlink.html) were hotels with PBX's
where those pricey TeleAdapt plugs would also be useless. One of the PBX
hotels had an RJ11 jack which I would have tried, had the Modem Saver not
warned me.
 * Roughly 1/3 of the rooms were regular RJ11, full speed; 1/3 acoustic
coupler, full speed; the rest acoustic coupler at 4800 bps.
 * One of the hotels (a PBX shop) was pulse-dial only. Had to pulse dial
to MCI and then ATx1DT my card number, etc... yuck.
 * 9 v transistor-radio style batteries (like those that my USR pocket
modem sucks dry) are pricey and rare, stock up before you leave!

I didn't test my setup as thoroughly as I should have before leaving,
wasted a few bucks editing my scripts, etc. Should have also verified
operation of the POST/LX "Externals" apps.

Andreas and Avi, I'd love to know how to feed POST/LX a full "folder"
file (*.I) and have it make the index... the idea being to connect with
POST/LX, send my outbound via SMTP (shouldn't be too much, so the
plaintext transmission is OK), then use the telnet external to run a
server-side script to create a compressed *.I folder file, then the ftp
external to get the file, then a DOS shell to unzip and put it in place.
Then back to POST/LX to look at the messages. In a perfect world you
could append messages to an existing *.I file instead of replacing it. It
would be nice to use similar tricks for NNTP news groups.

For those with direct UNIX shell access and zmodem/xmodem capability,
definitely check out PNR 1.2 at http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hplx.html
as PNR version 2.x is POP3-only, which Rod Whitby thinks is an
improvement but I disagree; even with cheap phone calls I have better
things to do with my time and batteries. ;-)

-Peter

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:25:43 -0400
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With the engine off, car battery output is 12V D.C.
When the engine is running, the voltage regulator limits the alternator's output to
13.6V D.C.

Jeffcom.

Jez Cunningham wrote:

> Item Subject: Re: Car Adapter?
> I'm sure it's ok with the engine off - that's a nice solid 13.6v that comes
> off the battery (at several hundred amps should your modem need it)
> - or do you use it with the engine running Ken?
> br
> jez
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: Car Adapter?
> Author:  KenAMoore at SHAR/dd.RFC-822=KenAMoore@OmniTraining\.com
> Date:    30/05/98 04:51
>
> I use the 12v from my cigarette lighter for an LX100 and 200 twice daily for ove
> an hour each session. I have for years. No problems. I realize that there is a p
> sibility of problems as mentioned by others and wouldn't recommend it to anyone
> r fear of contributing to a failed life-source, (HP*00LX). However, I thought I
> uld share my success as my two cents to this thread.
> Ken Moore
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My pal al...
  I can't answer to the first couple of questions, but if you hit "shift 0"
it should turn the caps lock on.  This is noted by the up triangle (teepee)
in the lower left on memo.

Ray

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Subject:        Minor sysmgr/apps problem

To all who see this greeings;

In sysmgr; has anyone encounter the following two problems.....
They seem so common, yet I haven't heard of anyone mentioning them.

1. While working in (any) database the highlight goes on and one can
delete a lot of stuff not intended.  Or when doing numbers, the highlight
goes on and you gotta muck around a bit to get back to normal.

1a. While I can DELete a number of records, I can't highlight a group of
records to copy to another database.

2. Can't get the CAPITALs (sft/CAPs) key to stick.  Can't type in
CAPITALs without holding down the shift key.

Has anyone encountered these minor problems?   I've been living with
this since day one. The have occured on all of the LX 200s I've seen.

yor pal al........................................

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:56:24 +1000
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Please help a Frog lost in a Kangarou contry.
Alain

It's Kangaroo

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:07:25 -0700
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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:32:03, "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> =
wrote:

> Hello to the list,
>
> Has anyone out there come across an icon for Excel?


Hi Claud,

Look no further, I have two.




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:47:26 -0700
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      nimh battery charger

all i know about electricity is that if i flip a wall
switch, my lamp comes on, so i need just a little
help.  i just bought a radio shack nimh battery
charger, only to discover that the batteries from t2t
won't work in it because they are missing the button
on the positive end.  (the contact on the charger is
inset just a little.)  is there anything that i can
slip in there so that contact will be made?  or should
i take the charger back?

thanks
nancy

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:06:37 -0400
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> I think it is about time to reveal some undocumented (and
> unsupported!) features of POST/LX 2.0. Please be aware that
> D&A cannot provide support for them! If they work for you:
> fine. If they don't: don't use them.
>
> So here the first one:
>
> If you put
>
> Font1=3D3Dc:\www\hv\luhs13b.hfn
> Font2=3D3Dc:\www\hv\luhs13n.hfn
>
> into the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG, you add additional
> fonts that can be used in the message view of POST/LX. You
> can add as many fonts as you like (Font3, Font4 etc.) The
> font files itself must be of HFN type, i.e. the same type of
> font files that you can use with HV and some other PAL
> applications.
>
> To access those additional fonts, press the ZOOM key
> (Fn-Space). The new fonts will appear in addition to the 3
> built-in fonts.

WHAT A FEATURE!! Why?

Now I am able to use proportional fonts to read the mails,
enabling me to use a larger font and still see a whole 80 char
line on one line. Proportional fonts are much easier to read!
And most surprising, POST remembers the last setting. Indeed I
use my own HFN fonts (contained in PEICHLS FONT on SUPER).

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:25:58 -0500
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Subject:      Re: nimh battery charger

Nancy

Unless you get better help elsewhere.
You can charge the batts in the LX.
go to setup, F9 (batts), charge.
if you can't, there is something wrong with
the batts.  If I remember right, The shack
does have a kind of batt that are NiMh
of the wrong kind. The mh for the LX must
look exactly like regular AA alkiline
batts in shape.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date: Saturday, 6 June 1998 9:39
Subject: Dictionary for HPLX


Hi,
I'm using Berlitz interpreter (version 1.30), this is a 5 language
translater,
It's an old and small ( 840K) DOS prog but there is only 12500 world per
language.
regards
(english, Francais, deutshe, espagnol, italiano)
If some one have another French/English translator,
please, Tell me.

I'm sure a French/English translator could be found and run O.K on the
200LX....
Try asking Michael at the Calculator King, St Kilda Road Toorak
(near Melbourne Grammer) He knows everything there is to know......
If you find one let me know. (My daughter is learning French).

A French/Australian translator...now that is another matter!

Your "mate"  Alex

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 05:29:15 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Excel Icon
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Claud:

> Has anyone out there come across an icon for Excel?
>
> Does anyone know how to get the icons from current applications (W95, =
etc.)
> and port them for use on the HP?  Or is this just not possible?

two different excel .ICN files on the way via separate email.

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Hi Peter,

> Here's my 2 cents, as a US resident having just spent 2.5 weeks in =
Italy:
>  * For email I love the POST/LX interface but POP3 downloads with
> transoceanic long distance rates are absurdly slow and expensive. Back =
to
> the UNIX shell, uqwk, and Micky Leaver's PNR version 1.2 for huge speed
> gains.

That is insane, I agree. Did you consider using one of the
lage online services like Compuserve? They have local nodes in
hundreds of cities all over the world. Their monthly fee is
$9.95 and you get 5 hours connect time. I do not suggest to
use _their_ email, but only connect to the internet locally
where you are through CIS, then let Post/LX access (over
internet) your email at you ISP in the US. I did it many times
when travelling, either inside the US, or abroad. The 5 hours
is pretty good if all you do is grab email, and reply offline.
I was posting here last year when I was on a trip in Europe,
calling Compuserve local nodes at minimal cost.

I am no fan of CIS and they got plenty of my displeasure with
their services, but in terms of coverage they everyone. IBMNET
is second. But a substantially lower number of nodes.

A customer also told me yesterday about a service called GRIC.
http://www.gric.com. They have reciprocal agreements with many
ISPs all over the world, and the list is growing, allowing you
to basically login to the local ISP whereever and still use
your home login and all. I don't know the details, but it
sounds intriguing.

>  * Not all lines that the IBM Modem Saver likes will actually work.

That is important info to know!

>  * The Konnex Koupler acoustic modem adapter is pretty nice. I only had =
a
> 14.4 pocket modem but did get full speeds in some rooms. In others I =
had
> to choke it down to 4800 bps (see note about POP3 speed!)

Makes the local node call that much more attractive.

> > Hotels, esp in Europe, have connect charges from the hotel for
> > 6 sec increments in addition to the cost of the call.  A huge
> > rip-off in my humble opinion.

You feel like that because you live in the land "free" local
calls:) .... Europeans have lived with that reality always!

> I didn't test my setup as thoroughly as I should have before leaving,
> wasted a few bucks editing my scripts, etc. Should have also verified
> operation of the POST/LX "Externals" apps.

I recommend to people to make a call or two to the far country
BEFORE they leave home, just to try out. Sure it is a little
expensive, but you go knowing what to expect, and things still
cost you less from home than experimenting from some hotel!

> Andreas and Avi, I'd love to know how to feed POST/LX a full "folder"
> file (*.I) and have it make the index...

Send it to yourself?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Russ

Thanks fer the download.

yor pal al.................................

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Sat,  6 Jun 1998 09:11:55 -0400 (EDT)

01h43m13s ago ...
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, al chin wrote:

> If I remember right, The shack
> does have a kind of batt that are NiMh
> of the wrong kind. The mh for the LX must
> look exactly like regular AA alkiline
> batts in shape.

Hi Al & group-

The RS NiMH are standard AA size & shape cells.  The bad news is that
after several months of use in my palmtop, they never even came CLOSE
to the RS high capacity NiCd cells.  They are supposed to be 1200 mAHr
compared to 850mAHr for the hicap NiCds.  But - in palmtop use I only
got 5-6 hours (with an older 12V 15MB flash card), vs 8-10+ hours for
the NiCds.  Guess which are in the palmtop now...

-PR
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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:50:12 -0700
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I  have another copy of

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
error messages, so forth

========================
I also have an aftermarket Agenda 1.0 (Version ONE) titled "The Lotus
Guide to Agenda" Robert & Lauren Flast 400 pages, indexed



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Mitch; congrats on getting the HP hooked into your home network! And thanks
for maintaining an excellent SUPER site. Quick question, before I shell out
the cash on a PCMCIA card and end up disappointed....I'm guessing that your
proposed software stack will NOT work on a Windows 95 TCP/IP based peer-to-
peer network (such as mine), but requires a NFS-based server. Yes/no? If yes,
any idea how I can hook my 6MB double-speed 200LX into my home network
configuration? If I know a certain machine's IP address, could I minimally do
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In a message dated 98-06-06 09:21:42 EDT,  I wrote:

<<
 > If I remember right, The shack
 > does have a kind of batt that are NiMh
 > of the wrong kind. The mh for the LX must
 > look exactly like regular AA alkiline
 > batts in shape.

The above refer to kinds of NiMH batts.

 Hi Al & group-

 The RS NiMH are standard AA size & shape cells.  Not all, they have at
at least two different kinds of NiMH batts as I triied to say.

 The bad news is that
 after several months of use in my palmtop, they never even came CLOSE
 to the RS high capacity NiCd cells.  They are supposed to be 1200 mAHr
 compared to 850mAHr for the hicap NiCds.  But - in palmtop use I only
 got 5-6 hours (with an older 12V 15MB flash card), vs 8-10+ hours for
 the NiCds.  Guess which are in the palmtop now...

As for the latter part of yor msg, Aren't NiMH better than NiCads,
providing you get good ones.
I have TOSHIBAs.  Most Japanese batts seem to be pretty good.
The difference between NiCads and NiMH?
The former has a memory problem, no?  As for RS, I've always felt they buy
infer lots and peddle them here.

yor pal al. .................  >>

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I run DOS version 5.0 Quicken on my hp100lx 1mb and Windows version 4.0
Quicken 4.0 on Win95.  I can swap files back and forth without problems.

Jim
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Hi There,

I have just received my 200LX with a 32MB upgrade and I have one problem.
I have moved some programs to the F: drive (32MB) and changed my
EXMBATCH.EXM files accordingly. However, I have now a serious problem-
after my programs has been runned and I exit the programs I get following
message:

"Intermediate file error during pipe"
and then I will get files with names as AABBSNSJ which include the screen
output. The palmtop hangs of course and I have to do a 3 finger salute.

I am not sure if it's something wrong with my 32MB upgrade or with
EXMBATCH- but I think the problem is with EXMBATCH since everything else
works fine.

Have anyone experienced this problem- please advice.

Thanks,

Jorgen

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Curtis Cameron has come up with another game and I really like it.
It is called Ten Thousand and can be found at his web below.

> http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/lxgames.html

Cheers...
Russ Brooks
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> Is there an easy straight forward way to get my HP in Sync with Outlook98
on
> my desktop? That is my desktop program at work, it is connected to an
> Exchange Server.  I would like to update daily and possibly do the same
with
> my home PC.  Any suggestions are appreciated.

I'm working on writing a sync program for Outlook (as a personal project).

I'm having to learn about OLE automation and MAPI and other stuff, but after
I get over that learning curve, I think the resulting program will be a
relatively simple Java+OLE app. (I already know how I would write it in
Visual Basic, but I'm not really a VB fan.)

- Joe

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:52:07 -0500
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Hi;

Why are you using 32MB in F:? Unless you need to,
There is a driver that swaps drivers (on boot up)
from F: to C: so that C: has 32MB. That way apps that
are fixed know where C: is.  If your running
from F: some, especially sysaps may be confused.

That's all I can reason.

yor pal al......................

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 10:02:56 -0700
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Hi Quinton,

Do you mind sending them?  And, by the way, where do you get them?  I can
convert the windows ones, but can't seem to find them.

 TIA

Best regards,

Claud

At 09:07 PM 6/5/98 -0700, you wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:32:03, "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
wrote:
>
>> Hello to the list,
>>
>> Has anyone out there come across an icon for Excel?
>
>
>Hi Claud,
>
>Look no further, I have two.
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Qman...
>
>
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I'd like the Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide!

At 06:50 AM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I  have another copy of
>
>Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
>error messages, so forth
>
>========================
>I also have an aftermarket Agenda 1.0 (Version ONE) titled "The Lotus
>Guide to Agenda" Robert & Lauren Flast 400 pages, indexed
>
>
>
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Oops!  That "reply" key again.  My apologies to the list.

At 06:50 AM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I  have another copy of

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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote that he likes Turbo Pascal.

Thanks for the favorable comments.  I was feeling the pressure to
change.  I have books and disks on C and C++ but have been making do
with TP 6 for my HP95.  Works great, less filling.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:44:51 -0300
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Dear Palmtopers

I've installed the nice POSTH add on to WWW, but it isn't working as
expected.

The program copy the text but dont't copy the header with name, date
and time  stamp.

Does anybody has suggestions?

Eduardo Cesana



Ý¨s


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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Hi guys! Am glad to say that I got my LXTCP FREEInet section almost done, and my
PNR Development page and "software wishlist" (which included the email sync idea
which I hope can be developed and incorporated into Post/LX, PNR and Going Postal)
for the 200LX are starting to be written. With luck, I should post up the pages (no
images, javascript, tables and frames, just to be Lynx and LX safe, for now.) by next
week.

BTW, I got information from the company that I am working for (now in the school
holidays) in Singapore that they are planning to buy back quite a bit (say hundreds
maybe...) of 200LX in Singapore. I would like to see if anyone on the list is interested in
buying them. If so, can you please email to peter@scntech.com, and tell him you are
interested in purchasing the 200LX. On this matter, he would also want to know if a price
of US$200 is fine for a 2Meg model. Do mail him soon.

Finally, I am glad to say that my company is also (finally! No more smokeware!)
bringing in the IBM PC110 486 palmtop, Sony Vaio and so on. So if anyone is
interested in any of these things, just pop me a mail.

---
Woman was created from the rib of man; Not from his head to be thought of
only, nor from his hand to be owned, nor from his foot to be beneath, but
from under his arm to be protected, from his side to be equal, and from his
heart to be loved. . .

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For anybody who is looking for a modem for the 95LX.
Note: it also should work in the 100/200LX.

I just found this post on the NG. ($45.00 sounds good to me.)

Reply-To: uzpalm@my-dejanews.com

Good Luck!


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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 20:46:33 GMT

New Media Palm Modem

PCMCIA Type I modem (rare),
works in HP 95LX, 2400bps,
$45 + shipping.

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Sun,  7 Jun 1998 08:28:51 +1200 (NZT)

01h44m ago ...
On Sat,  6 Jun 1998 15:44:51 -0300, Eduardo Cesana wrote:

> Dear Palmtopers
>
> I've installed the nice POSTH add on to WWW, but it isn't working as
> expected.
>
> The program copy the text but dont't copy the header with name, date
> and time  stamp.
>
> Does anybody has suggestions?

Hi Eduardo,

Are you using the latest POSTH that was uploaded on the SUPER site a
day or two ago? It is called version 2.0.

That should work "out-of-the-box" for a default POST/LX setup.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:45:05 -0700
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On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I'd like the Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide!

Kevin is grabbing the full set so this and the 1.0 book are left.

I figure about $3.00 for shipping (assuming USA) plus $15.00 for the book
total $18.00 (US)

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:33:01 +1200
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> Date:    Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:45:53 +0200
> From:    Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
>          <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
> Subject: Re: TurboC on 200lx
>
> >1)  Is there a way to force TurboC to work with two colors?  Many of the
> >things that are going on are barely legible because they're in a color
> >which doesn't translate well to LCD.
>
> In Turbo C 2.0 there's a program called TCINST which will let you
customize
> colors. Unfortunately, there's not a LCD or monochrome preset, so, you'll
> have to configure all colors manually.

If you run TCINST.EXE (at least with Turbo C ver 2.0) there is a option in
the main menu called "Mode for display" with Default, Color, B&W, LCD &
Monochrome options.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

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Date:         Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:25:14 -0500
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> Mitch; congrats on getting the HP hooked into your home network! And =
thanks
> for maintaining an excellent SUPER site. Quick question, before I shell =
out
> the cash on a PCMCIA card and end up disappointed....I'm guessing that =
your
> proposed software stack will NOT work on a Windows 95 TCP/IP based =
peer-to-
> peer network (such as mine), but requires a NFS-based server. Yes/no? =
If yes,
> any idea how I can hook my 6MB double-speed 200LX into my home network
> configuration? If I know a certain machine's IP address, could I =
minimally do
> a FTP session for file transfer?

Brian,

Thanks and thanks!

The guy who turned me onto this idea is using his with Win9: so I know
you can do it, but don't know the particulars. I am copying him on this
message so he can give you the full scoop...

Mitch

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 08:42:38 +1000
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Hi Guys

A little of topic..  Travel connections

After reading a few messages about Travel connection..  try ISI Global.net

Its an MLM provider ..maybe..  with 1100 cities and 51 countries covered.
$18.95 a month

I say maybe because I have not used them and have searched MANY pages on the
web but not found actual details of hours etc.

Does anyone have any info on this or other truly global ISP,s?

I will be finding some more about GRIC ( a worldwide alliance) for myself
after the weekend..

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Hi,

I have a 2 meg HP200lx SG507 series with a 1.02 A rom.  Is there a way to
upgrade the rom?  will it run a lot faster with the new rom?

TIA,
Guy

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Hi,

I have a broken space bar on my HP200lx.  Is there any good way to fix it?  I
just peeled back the overlay and tucked a little duct tape under the key -- it
sort of works but the feel is just not the same and I have to push in the
center of the space bar to get a good contact. Maybe there is an optimal place
to place the duct tape - the key is completely off of the layout.

Thanks

-Guy

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Subject:      Is my Power port blown?

Hi,

I just plugged my HP200lx into the AC adapter and the screen immediately
turned blue and went dark.  I don't think that it is receiving power.  the
adapter is fine because it works on my friend's HP.  Does this mean that
somehow I blew the power port?

Oh well, I guess that I can live on alkalines and recharing my Nicads on my
external charger.

-Guy

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Patrick West wrote:
>
> I  have another copy of
>
> Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
> error messages, so forth


Patrick,

I'd be interested in it!

Thanks,

- g

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Subject:      Re: Is my Power port blown?

On 06-06 11:04am, you had written

-> Hi,
->
-> I just plugged my HP200lx into the AC adapter and the screen immediately
-> turned blue and went dark.  I don't think that it is receiving power.  the
-> adapter is fine because it works on my friend's HP.  Does this mean that
-> somehow I blew the power port?
->
-> Oh well, I guess that I can live on alkalines and recharing my Nicads on my
-> external charger.
->
-> -Guy


Well, it's possible that the internal connection from the HP's power
input connector to the internal power supply is broken, rather than the
power supply itself.  If the unit is out of warranty and and you are
technically inclined, you may want to open it up and see if you have a
broken wire.

Good luck!

-
****************************************************
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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 00:00:36 -0400
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I used Switch-it daily several years ago.  It was a good program around
version 3.05.

Had some problems with later versions.

I believe it had very good cut & paste capabilities between DOS application
windows.

==========

Reply to Thomas Nemeth's comment:

>hi folks!  A buddy just gave me a pristine copy of Switch It on 5.25 disks.
> It seems to be a Software Carousel type of program and I don't recall any
>discussion on the list.  Anybody tried it?
>I tried to install SC but the manual was incredibly poorly written - sort
>of stream of consciousness with no real organization.  Because of the press
>of time, i haven't had time to figure it out.  I sent a note to Hal who
>advised the manual has been re-written and the pgm imporved.  I'll probably
>go that route but I'd be interested in any bullets on Switch It.
>Thanks
>Tom in Damascus

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> Jorgen Dybdahl wrote that he likes Turbo Pascal.
>
I have never tried that, but it sounds tempting.

There is also a language called TIPI (it's on Compuserve,HPHAND),
which is VERY small and fun to use, but not easy to learn.

My favorite is still TAWK (Thompson AWK from Thompson Automation).
I don't understand why I seem to be the only person I know using it,
but it is very powerful and can even be used to develop 32-bit Windows =
apps.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 01:48:29 -0400
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I seem to recall someone was looking for the HP 100/200 compatible PIMs
that worked in Windows.

This may be the link they need:

http://www.pumatech.com/evaluation/hp200lx.exe

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Eduardo:

Yesterday I posted a new version of POSTH - version 2. See
http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 00:56:45 -0700
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On Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:32:03 -0400 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
writes:

>The RS NiMH are standard AA size & shape cells.  The bad news is that
>after several months of use in my palmtop, they never even came CLOSE
>to the RS high capacity NiCd cells.  They are supposed to be 1200 mAHr
>compared to 850mAHr for the hicap NiCds.  But - in palmtop use I only
>got 5-6 hours (with an older 12V 15MB flash card), vs 8-10+ hours for
>the NiCds.  Guess which are in the palmtop now...
>

Do you use a modem with your palmtop running just on batteries? I use the
RS hi-capacity NiCds in my 100lx (with flashcard) and usually get 25-27
hours between rechargings (but I always modem plugged in to A/C as well
as the phone line).

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Roberto Sone - if you read this, please send your email
address to info@dasoft.com.

The email address you used to send a message to us is bouncing
back!

   ROBERTO SONE from CHILE - Please send correct email address

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 07:39:01 -0400
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I always charge my NiCd's in the LX. The first time I changed batteries
in the machine, I discovered that one of the recipes for a happy life is
to limit the number of times one has to try to win the uneven fight of
taking the battery compartment lid on and off.

Nancy, when you recharge the NiMh batteries in the LX, do note that the
LX will charge for 6 hours at 100mA and then trickle charge at 45mA. You
should therefore reboot the machine within the first 6 hours to start
another count of 6 hours. The calculation for NiCd's is something like
this:

My batteries are 500mAh so I want to charge them 500 * 1.5 =3D 7.5 hours
at 100mA. Being a generous soul, I always give mine 8 hours and
henceforth reboot the machine (or turn charging off and then on again)
after 2 hours (set an alarm so you remember!) and then let them charge 6
hours more. You cannot turn the machine off while charging - that is
normal. After the 6 hours, you should turn the charging off if the
net-adapter is still connected to the machine.

You can get a free-of-charge utility program that enables you to charge
longer than 6 hours at 100mA. I have forgotten what it is called but it
is on the Super-WWW.

First time you usually have to charge (at least) NiCd's much longer.

Jorgen

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I think it is included as additional free software with their printers as
well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brennan <mikeb@NETCOM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: HP PIM for Windows.


>I dont think it is freeware, although HP ships it on all their notebooks
>along with the HP15C calculator software.
>
>--mikeb
>>
>> Where is the HP PIM for Windows to be found?
>> I once downloaded it from a site that I can not remember.
>> I got the impression that it was freeware.
>>
>>   /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***
>>
>>                     64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
>>
>>                     10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
>>                     20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
>>                     30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
>>                     40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
>>                     50  LET Micro$oft = 666
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Hi Don
I thought I was a dummy when I couldn't get
SC to work.  It seems I came to the same
wall you did and actually thought the same
thing about the manual. When this happens,
you say to yourself, how can you be so stupid,
everyone else gets it to work.

When I first loaded SC a year or two ago when
I first got it with an upgrade, it worked.
Probably because I had nothing loaded and
all the parameters were right. Now that I
changed the settings I gotta jiggle it. oh
well.

So you're not alone.
Let me know how SWITCH IT works.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:13:49 -0400
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Sun,  7 Jun 1998 09:50:31 -0400 (EDT)

02h11m14s ago ...
On Sun,  7 Jun 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> LX will charge for 6 hours at 100mA and then trickle charge at 45mA. =
You
> should therefore reboot the machine within the first 6 hours to start
> another count of 6 hours.

No need to reboot...  At least on my aging 100LX, any power
interruption restarts the 6 hour counter.  All you need to do is unplug
the adapter for a second or two and plug it in again.

HTH

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:13:53 -0400
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Sun,  7 Jun 1998 09:38:02 -0400 (EDT)

05h11m57s ago ...
On Sun,  7 Jun 1998, David C Smalley wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:32:03 -0400 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
> writes:
>
> >...8-10+ hours for the NiCds.
>
> Do you use a modem with your palmtop running just on batteries?

Nope.  Single-speed 100LX - 12V Flash card - (external modem)

> I use the
> RS hi-capacity NiCds in my 100lx (with flashcard) and usually get 25-27
> hours between rechargings

That's terrific!  I haven't seen that kind of life since I was using a
1M SRAM card.  BTW - how are you measuring the time?  I noticed that
Buddy and ABC/LX give almost identical times that agree with my watch.
Battman (at least when used at the same time as Buddy) gave me a time
double what Buddy (and my watch) said.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:36:59 +0200
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On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, George Coleman wrote:

> > Jorgen Dybdahl wrote that he likes Turbo Pascal.
> >
> I have never tried that, but it sounds tempting.
>
> There is also a language called TIPI (it's on Compuserve,HPHAND),
> which is VERY small and fun to use, but not easy to learn.

If you're used to RPN and have ever used either the HP28/48 then it
shouldn't be too hard. It is a Forthish language.

> My favorite is still TAWK (Thompson AWK from Thompson Automation).
> I don't understand why I seem to be the only person I know using it,
> but it is very powerful and can even be used to develop 32-bit Windows apps.

You're not the only person using Awk, I can assure you of that, but since
TAWK isn't free (as opposed to GnuAwk or others), I stick to those. Apart
from Awk, I also have a C compiler and Perl (v4.0) on the LX, though the C
compiler really just is taking up space as I never use it. I tried Forth
at one time, which probably has smaller space requirements than all the
other languages mentioned, but I couldn't really get into it, so it had to
go :-)

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:48:10 -0500
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On 06-07 06:39am, you had written


My batteries are 500mAh so I want to charge them 500 * 1.5 = 7.5 hours
at 100mA. Being a generous soul, I always give mine 8 hours and
henceforth reboot the machine (or turn charging off and then on again)
after 2 hours (set an alarm so you remember!) and then let them charge 6
hours more. You cannot turn the machine off while charging - that is
normal. After the 6 hours, you should turn the charging off if the
net-adapter is still connected to the machine.

First time you usually have to charge (at least) NiCd's much longer.

Jorgen

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I would like to point out that the above charge method is for a fully
depleted set of batts, regardles of type.  I find that with my typical
use, I rarely discharge my nimh batts more than 50% at most, usually no
more than 25%.  So, using Batset from the SUPER site, I run straight
trickle charge overnight unless I used my modem while not on the ac
adapter during the day, in which case will run 100mAh four hours, then
trickle till morning.  This has normally been sufficient and limits the
heat generated internal to the HP200, which is more of a concern to me.
My rationale is that even expensive batts are cheap to replace compared
to the cost of repair to the HP200, although I honestly have no data on
how much effect this heating actually has.  My palmtop is 3 yrs old and
I am shooting for 30. <g>

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In a message dated 98-06-07 10:06:22 EDT, you write:

 > LX will charge for 6 hours at 100mA and then trickle charge at 45mA. You
 > should therefore reboot the machine within the first 6 hours to start
 > another count of 6 hours.

 No need to reboot...  At least on my aging 100LX, any power
 interruption restarts the 6 hour counter.  All you need to do is unplug
 the adapter for a second or two and plug it in again.
.....................
Does this mean that if there is NO reboot, it will do 100mA for 6
hours and then continue at 45mA without a reboot?

and if there is a reboot or unplug, it will restart at 100mA.

yor pal al...................................

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:17:13 -0500
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Comments: To: Hobchi@AOL.COM

On 06-05 04:49pm, had been written:

# In a message dated 98-06-07 10:06:22 EDT, you write:
#
#  > LX will charge for 6 hours at 100mA and then trickle charge at 45mA. You
#  > should therefore reboot the machine within the first 6 hours to start
#  > another count of 6 hours.
# .....................

# Does this mean that if there is NO reboot, it will do 100mA for 6
# hours and then continue at 45mA without a reboot?

yup.

# and if there is a reboot or unplug, it will restart at 100mA.

yup.

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You ougth to warn a guy! Click on this and it
goes immediately into a 3.8 meg download.

Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> I seem to recall someone was looking for the HP 100/200 compatible PIMs
> that worked in Windows.
>
> This may be the link they need:
>
> http://www.pumatech.com/evaluation/hp200lx.exe
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Jorgen:
You list below that you've got the 32MB partition setup as F:.  Why
aren't you running RD32SWAP to make it your c: drive?  I have no
problems with exmbatch on my 32MB machine, with my 32MB c: drive.

Bill

> Hi There,
>
> I have just received my 200LX with a 32MB upgrade and I have one =
problem.
> I have moved some programs to the F: drive (32MB) and changed my
> EXMBATCH.EXM files accordingly. However, I have now a serious problem-
> after my programs has been runned and I exit the programs I get followin=
g
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I think everybody is missing the original question.  Indeed the Times2Tech
batteries won't charge in the RS charger without modifying something.  I
have one of these chargers too, but haven't modified it yet.  One person
on this list put a small dimple of solder on his batteries to create
the positive end.  I think I'll modify the charger instead, but not sure
exactly what I'll do yet.  When I figure that out, I'll post what I
decided to do.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 12:18:36 -0500
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On 06-07 11:43am, Steve had written:

# I think everybody is missing the original question.  Indeed the Times2Tech
# batteries won't charge in the RS charger without modifying something.  I
# have one of these chargers too, but haven't modified it yet.  One person
# on this list put a small dimple of solder on his batteries to create
# the positive end.  I think I'll modify the charger instead, but not sure
# exactly what I'll do yet.  When I figure that out, I'll post what I
# decided to do.
#

That was 14 subject changes ago. <g>   My fix for this with a Motorola
pager battery charger was to use a bit of Bic Clic pen spring soldered
to the recessed charger tab and let it just protrude through the slot
for the battery pin.

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Al - you wrote:

> Hi Don
> I thought I was a dummy when I couldn't get
> SC to work.  It seems I came to the same
> wall you did and actually thought the same
> thing about the manual. When this happens,
> you say to yourself, how can you be so stupid,
> everyone else gets it to work.

The good folks at Thaddeus Computing have been reworking the
SC manual too. I have not seen it, but they told me they spent
a lot of time on it. I did see some piece of their
dicumentation, and it seems like an improvement.

I am not a good judge of this, because I did not have a
problem with the first manual, but still the bit I saw of the
new documentation seems better.

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> The bad news is that
> after several months of use in my palmtop, they never even came CLOSE
> to the RS high capacity NiCd cells.

You too??  I thought that the palmtop just wasn't charging them enough!  I am
not going to spend $30 on RS's charger for them, so I just charge nightly.  I
can have the palmtop charging overnight, unplug it, put in the modem, go
online, and 20 minutes later I get low battery indicators.  With normal usage
over the day, it gets down to about 2.45 volts.

I just wonder if it isn't the fact that they're 1.2v batteries, rather than
1.25 like NiCDs.  In other words, they're still well charged at 2.4v, which is
pretty low for the LX.

I should do the same, go back to my NiCDs and see if it's better that way.  I
was almost beginning to think I had the 'XRAM battery drain' going on.. :)

Anyone else have better luck with RS NiMH batteries?  They're rated at a
*slow* charge of 400mA, fast charge of 1.2A, so the palmtop is barely
trickling them..  But it's a hassle to charge them externally.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 14:05:34 -0500
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This goes way back but I used Tlink.exe that came with Turbo C 1.0 and also
Link that came with dos to link Clipper Summer 87.  It not only worked just
fine, it cut the link time on a large project from about 7 minutes (on an
8mhz 8086) to about 30 seconds.

I haven't used more recent versions of Clipper.

Barry

On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Phil WHORTON wrote:

> ** Nur Empf-nger **
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I've spent some time in getting Clipper 5.3 to run under OS/2 (no success with '95%-Ready), only to find that the code is enormous and needs a 286!
>
> Does anyone know if using the real-mode linker will allow the app to run on my 200LX? If so, how do I persuade the Workbench to use Blinker instead of the protected-mode linker and ignore Exospace.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Phil
>
>
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        Is there anyone who services HP 200LX palmtops in the Cleveland, Ohio
area, or at least someone who is knowledgable in taking these thing apart
and putting them back together in working order?  It would be nice to be
able to have work done locally if I have any problems.

        Chris Pimlott

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I have the font "helv200"  (9,243 bytes) on my HP200lx C-drive.

Can someone give me step-by-step instructions on how to install it?  I
need rather specific instructions since I do not know DOS very well.

I am currently running the standard HP200lx font and would like to
switch to the clearer helv200 font.

Thank in advance.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:22:19 -0500
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If the 200LX is similar to my 100LX, the font file is actually a .COM
file that runs at boot time, and installs the Helvetica fonts on the
computer.  You need to add the command C:\{DIRECTORY¨\HELV200 to your
AUTOEXEC.BAT file on the C: drive, where ÝDIRECTORY¨ is the one where
HELV200 is kept.  On my machine, I have in in the C:\BIN directory, so
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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:33:10 -0700
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With Jorgen saying his palmtop was 3 years old & he was shooting for 30,
I began wondering who would be using the oldest palmtop on the list. I
guess it would have to be a 95LX. It might also be interesting hearing a
few "longevity tips" from those who have been happily using their
palmtops for years.

Steven English
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My hp100lx was 4yrs old in May.  It's indispensible for its phone book,
calendar and (dos) quicken.  Plus all the games for those boring
meetings.

There must be older older machines out there.
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On 06-08 10:33am, had written:

# With Jorgen saying his palmtop was 3 years old & he was shooting for 30,
# I began wondering who would be using the oldest palmtop on the list. I


That was me.  I probably didn't separate his statements from mine as
well as i might have in my reply to him.


# guess it would have to be a 95LX. It might also be interesting hearing
# a few "longevity tips" from those who have been happily using their
# palmtops for years.
#
# Steven English


I agree, that would be fun to find out who has "The Old Dog".
BTW, When did the 95LX go on the market?


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I have an HP 82241A AC adapter. What unit is this specifically for?

It has a 9V AC output at 13.5va max.

Can it be used with a 200lx?

tia
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73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:33:14 PDT
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OK, I must have missed something.  I have Goin' Postal 1.x on my 200lx
and like it though it sometimes acts up. Needless to say, I was happy to
see many of you folks with tag lines showing Goin' Postal 2.x and some
not saying beta. So I went looking for it... I found 1.06 all over the
place but no higher. Could someone let the preacher in on it and point
me in the right direction?
TIA and God Bless!
In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson
revmike@iserv.net
revmike@palmtop.net
hppalmtop@hotmail.com
? What next ?

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> OK, I must have missed something.  I have Goin' Postal 1.x on my 200lx
> and like it though it sometimes acts up. Needless to say, I was happy to
> see many of you folks with tag lines showing Goin' Postal 2.x and some
> not saying beta. So I went looking for it... I found 1.06 all over the
> place but no higher. Could someone let the preacher in on it and point
> me in the right direction?

Goin' Postal version 2.13 is currently in the hands of all registered
users.  Barring any bug reports it will probably be released tuesday
night.  When I update the page I'll post a notice to the list.

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On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Mike Joseph wrote:

> OK, I must have missed something.  I have Goin' Postal 1.x on my 200lx
> and like it though it sometimes acts up. Needless to say, I was happy to
> see many of you folks with tag lines showing Goin' Postal 2.x and some
> not saying beta. So I went looking for it... I found 1.06 all over the
> place but no higher. Could someone let the preacher in on it and point
> me in the right direction?
> TIA and God Bless!

Hi Mike! Stay tuned to the list..... I'd be willing to bet that you see a
message here within the next week. Steve is putting the finishing touches
to version 2.1x :) I think you'll like it!

Jeff

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Thanks for all the help on my battery problem.  Two
reasons I want to use an external charger:

1) I use my palmtop all day long, and sometimes the
batteries don't last.  It would be very inconvenient
to use an ac adapter. Since it takes all night to
charge one pair in the palmtop, I can't have a second
pair charged and ready.

2) It bothers me that the palmtop gets so warm when
charging. I know it is normal, but still seems like it
might reduce the life of the circuitry.

BTW, I was able to fit the T2T batteries into my
charger by hacking a paper fastener, the kind with a
little button and 2 prongs.  The button part works
with the T2T batteries, and because that flattened the
negative connector in the charger, I use the prongs to
make the RS batteries fit.

thanks again for the help,
nancy

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Al Chin wrote:
>
> CPACK is at palmtop.net
> select SUPER.
>
thanks but when I search for cpack, all I can find is programme for
running filer from floppy.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

reagards,

Andrew

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Andrew, I had the same problem.   I am looking for an updated version for the
data base.   Cathy


In a message dated 98-06-08 01:11:18 EDT, you write:

thanks but when I search for cpack, all I can find is programme for
 running filer from floppy.

 Am I looking in the wrong place?

 reagards,

 Andrew >>

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I have HP100LX and using about half of the year, but previous user was
from 1993.

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Steven English wrote:

> With Jorgen saying his palmtop was 3 years old & he was shooting for 30,
> I began wondering who would be using the oldest palmtop on the list. I
> guess it would have to be a 95LX. It might also be interesting hearing a
> few "longevity tips" from those who have been happily using their
> palmtops for years.
>
> Steven English
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I think your adapter should be for a HP 95LX.

Our HP 200LX does use 12 V adapter.

Pablo KIM
From ARGENTINA...=B498 Worldcup Champion. :-)

>> DEATH for Wince!!! <<


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> De: Nick Marsh <nickwb4sqi@WWD.NET>
> A:=20
> Asunto: Identify my AC Adapter?
> Fecha: Lunes 8 de Junio de 1998 2:16 AM
>=20
> I have an HP 82241A AC adapter. What unit is this specifically for?
>=20
> It has a 9V AC output at 13.5va max.
>=20
> Can it be used with a 200lx?
>=20
> tia
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>I would like to point out that the above charge method is for a fully
>depleted set of batts, regardles of type.  I find that with my typical
>use, I rarely discharge my nimh batts more than 50% at most, usually no
>more than 25%.

I thought one ought to run batteries down until they were gasping???
I'll try your method.

>My palmtop is 3 yrs old and I am shooting for 30. <g>

I think we all have to since there are no signs in the sun and moon for
a replacement for the 200LX.

Jorgen

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>My favorite is still TAWK (Thompson AWK from Thompson Automation).

TAWK: I use AWK extensively for all kinds of things but have never tried
a compiling AWK - that sounds interesting. Are the executables big?
And if small, how much is it?

>There is also a language called TIPI (it's on Compuserve,HPHAND),
>which is VERY small and fun to use, but not easy to learn.

TIPI is fun and the compiler very small; however my mind seems to think
in terms of (long forgotten) FORTH and TIPI is sufficiently different.
I will however, definitely, real soon now... But then again, why put off
until tomorrow what can wait until next week.

>If you're used to RPN and have ever used either the HP28/48 then it
>shouldn't be too hard. It is a Forthish language.

While we are at "wierd" languages: anybody played with C--?
The level is somewhere between assembler and C - the data type is
words and bytes but it otherwise smells of C. Tiny executables as it
translates to assembler without a run-time system. Not freeware, but
"green"ware. No floating point. I like it but somehow always end up
making the program in normal assembler. I have not tried it on the LX
but the programs will of course run.

  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3559

Assembler programmers should take a look at it just to see how nice life
could be (you can READ your own programs!). C programmers will realize
how high level C really is but should feel somewhat at home (unless they
are of the new breed who only know C++). dBase/Foxpro programmers should
avoid it.

On the note of assemblers: MASM is too clumsy for the LX. TASM fine.
However the one I use today is A86 - a real marvel! (shareware).

Jorgen
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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:39:35 +0200
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Wally

I=27ve been uing =22Green-Charge=22 1100mAh batteries for about 2 years =
now. My 6Meg doublespeed 200LX runs for about a week between charges - I =
don=27t have any PCMCIA cards so this is probably a pretty unrealistic =
figure.

I charge the batts in the LX (despite the screen going so faint it=27s =
almost unreadable whil doing this) and have had no problems. The 600mAh =
NiCds that I used before lasted only a couple of days.

Best regards

Phil


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On  6 Jun 98 at 21:23, Tony Hutchins wrote:


> Hi Eduardo,
>
> Are you using the latest POSTH that was uploaded on the SUPER site a
> day or two ago? It is called version 2.0.

I got the new version and it's running nice and clean. Thanks for the
nice program.


Ý¨s


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Hi Andrew

Are we talking about the same thing?

The CPACK I'm talking about is the
Connectivity pack that was designed mainly
to facilitate the transfer of files betwen
the LX and the PC the filer on one of the
machines for backup. It'll work in DOS
with and windows. The databases work on the PC.

Yor pal al .....................

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I would like to point out that the above charge
method is for a fully depleted set of batts,
regardles of type.  I find that with my typical
use, I rarely discharge my nimh batts more than
50% at most, usually no more than 25%.

I thought one ought to run batteries down until
they were gasping??? I'll try your method.
-------------------------------------------
I think this is only necessary for NiCADs as
they are the only ones with this "memory effect"

Yor pal al .....................

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Being new to the list, I want to apologize if this topic has already been
discussed (which I'm sure it has!).

Is there a prescribed way to get Net-tamer (for the 200LX, of course) to
connect to a Windows NT RAS server? Clear text password has been enabled on
the server. I'm just looking for a .LOG file to add to the 200LX to get it
to connect, login and run PPP.

Thanks for any help,
Steve

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How do I go about getting an account with Compuserve that will run on my
HP200lx?

When I bring up Compuserve's web page, the only connection software they
offer is for Windows 95 and NT (and MAC).

They used to have a text only, bulletin board type interface.  Not any
more?

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Another question: I notice most people on this list seem to be using Goin
Postal. Is there a general consensus that it is better than Net-tamer?

Any opinions in either direction?

TIA,
Steve

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Mon,  8 Jun 1998 09:15:19 -0400 (EDT)

04h31m29s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Jun 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> I thought one ought to run batteries down until they were gasping???
> I'll try your method.

Well...  running NiCds all the way down before recharging does seem to
refresh the cells.  I do this (outside the palmtop) periodically to
recondition them.  Can't very well do this IN the palmtop though - the
LX will give up before the batteries do.

-PR

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Mon,  8 Jun 1998 09:09:46 -0400 (EDT)

10h50m22s ago ...
On Sun,  7 Jun 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> I have an HP 82241A AC adapter. What unit is this specifically for?

Probably for the 95LX

> It has a 9V AC output at 13.5va max.
> Can it be used with a 200lx?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!  The 200LX (and 100LX) need a DC supply (negative
center on the plug) - nominally 12V, but actually 9.6 to 14.4 volts
according to the manual.

HTH

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Several of you have mentioned a task-swapper app called Switch-it that you
apparently use like Software Carousel.

Who makes (or made) it, and is it even available anywhere?

I'd like something like SC, but simple (and cheap) for those
once-in-a-bluemoon times that I need to toggle between two DOS apps at the
same time (not often enough to make SC install/purchase worthwhile).

I use MaxDOS, which as many of you know, spawns a new session but doesn't
allow you to toggle between the parent/child apps...you have to terminate
the child app to get back to the parent. For most of my needs this is fine
(especially at the cost (free) and the resources needed (8.5k memory) ).

Would appreciate any leads on Switch-it if it may suit my needs better.

- Longden

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Do e search on the INTERNET for product "acCIS" latest version now 4.0 -
I am working with this product for years although I am a novice it all
works quit comfortable. Email - Forums etc. all offline.

See for:

  http://www.rundel-d.com

for further info.

Harry Wellner, Netherlands

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>How do I go about getting an account with Compuserve that will run on my
>HP200lx?
>
>When I bring up Compuserve's web page, the only connection software they
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>They used to have a text only, bulletin board type interface.  Not any
>more?
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Al, I have that connectivity portion...I am still looking for the aplet that
will run as a Win program (easier).   The old one I have does run but it is
antiquated.   The transfer works fine...  thanks...!!!    I want an aplet that
will run the database portion of the LX200 as a separate program in Win95.
Sorry I was so unclear....    Cathy

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> Another question: I notice most people on this list seem to be using =
Goin
> Postal. Is there a general consensus that it is better than Net-tamer?

I hope not! We sell our product WWW/LX Plus to many of the
people here! :) Try www.dasoft.com.

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The batteries in my 200LX sometimes just die over a weekend - say 3-4 days
life in place of the usual weeks and weeks.   Weekends I often don't get to
use it.

I did think maybe it was an alarm going off that I don't get to and
acknowledge.

I did wonder if I'd left CIC100 loaded after I'd taken the modem out (which
I only use on AC), but it has happened before I ever started playing with
modems.

COM port in DOS is 'off'.

Has anyone got some suggestions as to what might do it ?  I guess something
is preventing the system sleeping, even though switched off.   It's
expensive !

BTW I changed the backup battery today in case it has taken a hammering from
the main batteries dying all the time.

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In a message dated 98-06-08 11:12:19 EDT, you write:

<< I did think maybe it was an alarm going off that I don't get to and
 acknowledge. >>


It isn't this....I have alarms going off when I don't have access to the unit
and they sit for a day or so, too....batteries still last for ages....

Cathy

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Try here:

ftp://ftp.support.lotus.com/pub/desktop/123/template/

hope you find something helpful there.

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> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Does anyone know where I can find a repository of 123 macros?  In =
particular,
> I'm looking for some simple finance s/w (I have an HP100LX)?
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>         Cheers,
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>                 Tim
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Multiple choice (mc.zip) is on Simtel. It will split up available main memory
between tasks and allow you to switch back and forth. So if pgms
are small its OK.

Longden C. Loo wrote:

> Several of you have mentioned a task-swapper app called Switch-it that you
> apparently use like Software Carousel.
>
> Who makes (or made) it, and is it even available anywhere?
>
> I'd like something like SC, but simple (and cheap) for those
> once-in-a-bluemoon times that I need to toggle between two DOS apps at the
> same time (not often enough to make SC install/purchase worthwhile).
>
> I use MaxDOS, which as many of you know, spawns a new session but doesn't
> allow you to toggle between the parent/child apps...you have to terminate
> the child app to get back to the parent. For most of my needs this is fine
> (especially at the cost (free) and the resources needed (8.5k memory) ).
>
> Would appreciate any leads on Switch-it if it may suit my needs better.
>
> - Longden
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My 200lx is approaching the 5 year mark (as is my 30th birthday), but I know
there are handhelds older than that.

As for when HP introduced the 95lx, I think it was around 1990, the same
time as IBM released their DOS handheld. The only reason I remember is IBM's
machine was like 3 times the cost but did the exact same thing without all
the great built-in software. Anybody remember the name of IBM's attempt?

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I am investgating using this on a 100lx and I have a couple of
questions:

1) It comes with two version one that "looks pretty" but diables the
alarms" and "one thats ugly but works properly". Which version are most
peolpe using?  Can the alarms be activated by running the alarm TSR?

2) are there icons that can be used for the address book and appointbook
databases?

3) can this be run with moreexm and smmx?


Thanks

Brenda

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What am I forgeting?  I have an IR detector.  I can monitor the flashes from
the 100 LX I have, but the 95LX doesn't seem to put out light.  Is there a
trick to it?  If not I guess my IR diode or transever is busted, any help
repairing it? schematics?  thanx

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Hi Cathy

I don't know what you're talking about.  What applet?
The pgm runs all the DBs, no?  How else can it run?
I'm interested now myself?  You mean a newer version,
to run the same or different DBs?  The main purpose
of the CPack  as it came with the pkg was to
facilitate transfer DBs from LX to PC for back up.
The fact that it runs on PC was a plus.   What else is there?

There is a completely new and improved version
working with win95 (only) to permit file transfer (only)
but it doesn't run the DBs.  Is that the one you mean?

BTW: The one you have does run in w95.  Just pull it
out through RUN.  As for icons, MS has extra icons
and will show them to you when it asks you to select an
icon.  Thry're limited but they'll do till you find some others
on the Internet.  Try FILEPILE.COM or search through
YAHOO.   Holla if you need.

yor pal al.........................

PS: Glad you got the old one working.
 What else do you want it to do?

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:52:19 -0400
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As a new-comer, I am enjoying the wealth of information in this mailing
list.  I have 2 questions to add.

With all the discussion regarding Carousel circulating (forgive the pun),
does anyone have experience with an early version of deskview?

Also, is it correct that if one runs a keyboard from the serial port, ie
the Shier Newton unit, that you cannot simultaneously use the IR serial
port, for instance to print?

Thanks in advamce for your thoughts,

LZ
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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:24:07 -0400
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Hello folks,

Here is the list of old palmtop computers. :-)

1989  ATARI Portfolio
          Poqet Computer Poqet PC

1991  SHARP PC-3000
          HP 95LX
          Psion Series3

1992 Prolinear PS-3000

1993 HP 100LX
         Newton MessagePad

1994 HP 200LX
         SONY MagicLink


Yujin
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Yes, these work great.   However I have a small data base that I got with my
connectivity kit that is DOS based that runs on the desktop....it is primitive
and not mouse compat.  Since the address book works well under windows, is
there a current data base that runs like the address book?

Cathy

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> Hello folks,
>
> Here is the list of old palmtop computers. :-)
>
> 1989  ATARI Portfolio

Have one

>           Poqet Computer Poqet PC
>
> 1991  SHARP PC-3000

Have one

>           HP 95LX
>           Psion Series3
>
> 1992 Prolinear PS-3000
>
> 1993 HP 100LX
>          Newton MessagePad

Have one

>
> 1994 HP 200LX
>          SONY MagicLink

Have one of each
>
>
> Yujin
> ----------
> Yujin Nagasawa

There WERE much older palmtops, they just weren't DOS based machines.
Of course several of those above aren't DOS based either. I also have
most of the early palmtops made by sharp and casio, many of which
were sold in the early days by radio shach under their tandy name,
anyone remember the Pocket Computers? I even have one that has a dock
that attaches with a 4 color printer (pen plotter type).

Pete


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> My 200lx is approaching the 5 year mark (as is my 30th birthday), but I know
> there are handhelds older than that.
>
> As for when HP introduced the 95lx, I think it was around 1990, the same
> time as IBM released their DOS handheld. The only reason I remember is IBM's
> machine was like 3 times the cost but did the exact same thing without all
> the great built-in software. Anybody remember the name of IBM's attempt?
>
> --Patrick McGouirk

I don't remember IBM ever selling a handheld computer, at least not
retail. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Poqet Pocket
computer, about the size of a VHS video tape?

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:03:18 -0400
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Does anyone know where I can get an international Compuserve phone
directory in phone book or database format?  I know there is one for the
US.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:14:50 -0400
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 >
 > I have an HP 82241A AC adapter. What unit is this specifically for?
 >
 > It has a 9V AC output at 13.5va max.
 >
 > Can it be used with a 200lx?
 >

NO!  AC will TOAST the 200LX big time.  Don't use it.

Ask Mack at Times2Tech.com about his mini AC adapters.  They work
wonderfully, if he has any left.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:09:17 -0700
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>
> most of the early palmtops made by sharp and casio, many of which
> were sold in the early days by radio shach under their tandy name,
> anyone remember the Pocket Computers?

I have an AST Gridpad 2390 (aka Casio Z-7000, aka Tandy Zoomer), but I
don't know how it dates, but it doesn't seem too old (or maybe I am).

- Longden

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Want to buy- used 200lx. Also looking for a non-working
unit. Please respond by email. musi0009@tc.umn.edu. Thanks

John

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:58:22 -0500
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Hi

ABSOLUTELY NOT!  The 200LX (and 100LX) need
a DC supply (negative center on the plug) -
nominally 12V, but actually 9.6 to 14.4 volts
according to the manual.

How can you tell the polarity of the center
pole of an adapter?


PS: If you don't get a reply, it means
I'm out of town and didn't get
your message yet.  You can try me at
hobchi@hotmail.com if you want an
answer quicker.  Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:44:31 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Windows version of appt & phone book

Cathy,
I still don't understand at all, let me work with your msg.

1.These work great. What works great?  LXDBs?

2.However I have a small data base that I got with my
connectivity kit that is DOS based that runs on the
desktop....it is primitive and not mouse compat.

Yes, this is the LX sysaps DB file system.

Since the address book works well under windows, is
there a current data base that runs like the address book?

What address book?  Are you talking about Phone.PDB?

Are all the above LX DBs?  I presume they are?

If the above are LX (sysmgr/aps DBs. They work on the
PC DOS/W95 with the connectivity pack. No?
We are talking about LX DBs aren't we?  So what I don't
understand is what is primitive and won't work with a
mouse?  As far as I know, none of the LXDBs work with a
mouse.  If you know of any, let me know.

Anxiously awaiting your reply,
Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:22:21 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Programming languages

On 06-08 03:43am, Jorgen had written:

# On the note of assemblers: MASM is too clumsy for the LX. TASM fine.
# However the one I use today is A86 - a real marvel! (shareware).
#


   Jorgen,

   Would you please let me know where to find A86?
   TIA,

-
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.13) REGISTERED

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:36:50 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Antw: Re: nimh battery charger

On 06-08 06:39am, had written:

# I charge the batts in the LX (despite the screen going so faint it's almost
# unreadable whil doing this) and have had no problems. The 600mAh NiCds that
# I used before lasted only a couple of days.
#
# Phil


Try holding the "on" key down and pushing the + or - key til you get
the desired contrast level. (you'll have to push the plus key)
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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:44:23 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Windows version of appt & phone book
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Al,

I am so sorry to be so confusing....I have attached my .bat file that executes
the 200 desktop on my primary computer (a win95 desktop).  It has the database
that will run the files on my 200.

<<Since the address book works well under windows, is
there a current data base that runs like the address book?

What address book?  Are you talking about Phone.PDB?>>
Yes, I am talking about the phone.pdb...the programs I want to access on my
desktop are xxxx.gdb

Are all the above LX DBs?  I presume they are?
Yes, they are all on my 200LX.

If the above are LX (sysmgr/aps DBs. They work on the
PC DOS/W95 with the connectivity pack. No?Again, I have no problem
transferring files...it is in reading them on my desktop.  My OLD version (see
.bat) will not let me access the mouse...no problem really...just have been
wondering if there is an upgraded phonebook, etc....is there an upgraded
database program that will read the .gdb files...   whew!!!   :-))

We are talking about LX DBs aren't we?  Yes

So what I don't understand is what is primitive and won't work with a
mouse?  my old connectivity pack's "desktop"

Gosh, I hope that is clearer......My mind works (sometimes!) but looses
translation with my fingers on the keyboard!!

Cathy

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@ECHO OFF
un200.exe -V1

IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12
IF errorlevel 11 GOTO EL11
IF errorlevel  9 GOTO EL9
IF errorlevel  8 GOTO EL8
IF errorlevel  4 GOTO EL4
IF errorlevel  1 GOTO EL1
IF errorlevel  0 GOTO EL0

:EL4
IF "%1"=3D=3D"" GOTO PARMNO
IF "%2"=3D=3D"" GOTO PARMONE

tkernel.exe %1=3D%2
GOTO RUNCG

:PARMONE
tkernel.exe %1
GOTO RUNCG

:PARMNO
tkernel.exe

:RUNCG
cg.com /Q
launcher.com
cg.com /Q
un200.exe -C

IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12
IF errorlevel 9  GOTO EL9
IF errorlevel 8  GOTO EL8
IF errorlevel 4  GOTO EL4A
IF errorlevel 1  GOTO EL1A
IF errorlevel 0  GOTO EL0A

CLS
GOTO END

:EL12
ECHO APP200: Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH.  Please
ECHO         remove it and try again.
GOTO END

:EL11
ECHO APP200: Insufficient Memory
GOTO END

:EL9
ECHO APP200: Invalid option specified
GOTO END

:EL8
ECHO APP200: Only one option is allowed (-c or -v)
GOTO END

:EL1
:EL0
ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR is already loaded. APP200 can not be run.
ECHO         Try typing EXIT to return to APP200.
GOTO END

:EL4A
ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not loaded. A serious error has occurred.
GOTO END

:EL1A
ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not unloaded. A serious error has occurred.
GOTO END

:EL0A
:END


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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:02:52 -0400
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>Does anyone have any info on this or other truly global ISP,s?

There's always Compuserve, with local dialup in most major cities in the
world

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 21:58:13 GMT
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> Another question: I notice most people on this list seem to be using =
Goin
> Postal. Is there a general consensus that it is better than Net-tamer?

I'm not convinced that most people use GP; I would have thought WWWLX was =
more
popular.

Russ

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:07:49 -0400
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> Hello folks,
> Here is the list of old palmtop computers. :-)

(list deleted to save space)......

> Yujin Nagasawa
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
> E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>             QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp

Thanks for the refresher, Yujin. I'd almost forgotten those other machines
that I'd tried to forget.  ;)

>I don't remember IBM ever selling a handheld computer, at least not
>retail. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Poqet Pocket
>computer, about the size of a VHS video tape?
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
>tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

You may be right. I remember several IBM techs running around with some sort
of palmtop, but it was probably the Poquet with an IBM logo stuck on it.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:28:34 -0400
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After reading several posts on programs like Software Carousel, I went
digging in the back of my network/parts closet because my company used such
a program long ago. What I found is a DOS-based program called Direct Access
by a company called Fifth Generation Systems. It allows you to switch
between DOS programs and gives you simple menu controls. According to the
requirements on the box it should be compatible with any DOS machine and
even won Editor's Choice from PC Magazine for what its worth (1.15.1991).

Before I go tearing my 200lx flash disk to pieces, I was wondering if anyone
has experimented with this program before - good or bad? I like the built-in
software on the LX but as I run several programs from DOS (like WP5.1) there
might be something to my running DOS fulltime (at least from the flash
disk).

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:40:30 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Windows version of appt & phone book
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Hi C  :+)

I'm glad we are talking about jackfruit.
I see the problem, I see the light.

No, (Not that I know of) You can't use your mouse.
Where did you hear that you could.  Why would you
want to, in this aps?  Its all so finger intensive.  You'd
just use the mouse to get to the pgm then start typing again.

Kool it, let your fingers do the walking..................

yor pal al..............

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 19:20:36 EDT
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Hi C:

Here comes Hic.PDB.

yor pal al...............

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The latch on my HP200LX, used to close the clamshell, has become =
dysfunctional.  I've ordered and received a repair kit from HP =
containing several extra parts, including the latch.  However, there is =
no instruction on how to remove and replace the loose latch.  Anyone =
done this repair?  It seems to be a simple job but I dare not harm my =
little friend.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:05:35 EDT
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Well, Redmond finally snagged me. It's been increasingly more difficult to
integrate the HP200LX into my work environment, what with Puma Technology
dropping support and upgrades to Intellisync for the 200LX, and Transfile
Win200 working sporadically on my Windows 95 PCs. One too many Word or Excel
97 email attachments that I couldn't read pushed me over the edge. A like-new
Compaq C140 upgraded to CE 2.0 is headed my way as I speak. Easier
synchronization with Outlook and Outlook Express, as well as the ability to
hook into my existing TCP-IP network, will be nice, and I'll try to not dwell
on what I'm leaving behind...

My 200LX is for sale. Double-clocked and bumped from 2MB to 6MB by Thaddeus in
early February of this year. In mint condition, and comes with serial cable,
AC adapter and two NiCD rechargeables. I'll also include my registered copy of
Intellisync, plus a bunch of freeware I've found useful.

Best offer. Let the bidding begin!

Regards,
BD

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If memory serves, IBM/Lexmark released two handhelds before the
PC110... I think the model #s were MB15 and MB30.  I do know they were
8086-class, but don't have much more info.  I can check my old archive
of comp.sys.palmtops on my PC to verify this.

Bill

> I don't remember IBM ever selling a handheld computer, at least not
> retail. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Poqet Pocket
> computer, about the size of a VHS video tape?
>

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:17:48 -0400
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Hello Bill,

Yes, they were Lexmark MB-10 andMB-15.
Their sizes were bigger than palmtop and as
large as a Gateway Handbook.

I had a MB-15. Its CPU were 286 compatible.
MB-10 had 1MB RAM and MB15 had 2MB
RAM, and some models had internal modems.
I know Lexmark made ThinkPad 500 for IBM,
but I don't know if IBM sold MB series.

Thank you,
Yujin
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>If memory serves, IBM/Lexmark released two handhelds before the
>PC110... I think the model #s were MB15 and MB30.  I do know they were
>8086-class, but don't have much more info.  I can check my old archive
>of comp.sys.palmtops on my PC to verify this.
>
>Bill

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:17:51 -0400
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Hello Mr. Borders,

> Thanks for the refresher, Yujin. I'd almost forgotten those other
machines
> that I'd tried to forget.  ;)

 :-)
I am collecting old palmtops, so it is fun.

> >I don't remember IBM ever selling a handheld computer, at least not
> >retail. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Poqet Pocket
> >computer, about the size of a VHS video tape?

I don't think IBM sold a palmtop computer either. (except PC110
and WorkPad)

Regards,
Yujin

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Date:         Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:25:59 EDT
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Hi C;

Sorry about the first send, this second HiC.PDB will work.

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I used Desqview for a couple of years.  It was very good.  The fastest most
rock solid operating system I have ever used in fact.  I was thinking of
putting it on the HP dos machines.

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100$

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Below is a message from my old comp.sys.palmtops archive.  It's a bit
long, but describes the IBM/Lexmark palmtop in detail.  Dump this
message if you're not interested.

Bill

From: Christopher G Mullin <mullin@selway.umt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: $199 Super Palmtop from Lexmark?? (LONG)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:56:11 -0700
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I just bought a very interesting computer on closeout from:
DTI  Factory Outlet
165 University Av.
Westwood, MA  02090
1-800-366-7000 or 617-326-4100

I don't know how many they have left.  I'll bet they sell out after
people read this post.

Their ad in Computer Shopper tries to sell you a "Lexmark/Intel Mini
Book" subnotebook, model MB-15 for $199, or $299 with fax/modem.  No,
you *cannot* get what most people these days would think of as a
subnotebook for $199.  For one thing, their standard shipping and
handling charge is $29, so the actual price is $228.  Also, as you
will discover by reading on, the good people at DTI really don't quite
know what they have here. Nowhere in their ad do they point out that
this machine weighs only 2.2 pounds (1 KG).  They call it a
subnotebook, but what you are buying is actually best described as an
improved cross between the original Gateway HandBook and a
Prolinear-Mitsuba-Zeos Pocket PC, or PPC.

Like the PPC,  the MB-15 has no hard drive but has 2 PCMCIA slots
(type II, release 1.0, so they're for memory cards only). Also like
the PPC, it has  a ROM with MS-DOS 5.0, Interlink, integrated software
and a PIM, *and* a RAM drive so you cam store files even if you don't
have a PCMCIA card. Unlike the PPC, the MB-15 also has Stacker in its
ROM, and 2 MB of RAM, so your stacked RAM drive is a nominal 3.4 MB
<grin>

The form factor (6.2 x 10.25 x 1.15 in.) the screen (640 x 400 CGA,
with 16 shades of gray in text mode, 8.25 diagonal, non-backlit) the
CPU (Chips and Technologies 286-equivalent) all resemble the Gateway
HandBook (except that the HandBook's screen was backlit).

On its own, the MB-15 has a very touch-typeable 77-key keyboard, with
good tactile feedback for a portable, and a keyboard mouse--one
dedicated key at the lower right corner that works like a J-mouse, but
better than any J-mouse I ever played with, and two more dedicated
keys on the bottom row for the mouse buttons.  It also has sound
support--the Disney Sound Source built in (!), with phone jack and
volume control to supplement the built-in speaker.  The whole thing
runs on 6AA batteries, or a 12 volt AC adapter (no, that's *not* a
misprint), and the adapter will also recharge an optional NiMH battery
pack.  I just got this thing last night, but with no hard drive
battery life should be pretty good.

One other feature differs from the Gateway HandBook.  This is a 1-Kg
(2.2 pounds--36 oz.) computer.  That's about 8 oz. lighter than the
original Handbook, and about 11 oz. lighter than  the HandBook 486--
or, about 8 oz. heavier than the PPC, but I prefer not to dwell on
that :)

The software included is not the PPCs Microsoft Works, but Ability
Plus (version 2.15) a British DOS product from the 80's which
dynamically links word processing documents, spreadsheets, databases,
and graphs, and also does communications.  The fairly complete PIM was
produced as a series of Ability files.  The standard package includes
6 AA batteries, the AC adapter, and a high-quaility 3-ended serial
cable to use with Interlink.

As you may have noted, this is *not* a "Lexmark/Intel" product,
although the friendly person I talked to at DTI was sure it had an
Intel 286 in it. When the original Handbook was current, a lot of
people thought *it* had a 286 chip, too.  Also, what *I* got wasn't
even a "Mini Book," it was a LexBook MB-15.  I've got Serial #
00000023 (really!)

Some history may be in order here, for anyone still reading :)

Lexmark announced in Nov. 1992 that it would be producing the MiniBook
(note different spelling) in the first quarter of 1993. There were to
be three versions: a MiniBook Mizer running at 7 Mhz with 1 MB of RAM
and a 640x200 display, a MiniBook MB-10 with PCMCIA slots running at
10 MHz, but still only 640x200 display, and the MB-15 with 2 MB RAM,
and 2 MB ROM.  These were supposed to fit in between PDAs and their
then-new 486 subnotebooks.  Apparently DTI has the MB-10 in stock as
well as the MB-15.

They probably didn't make the Spring '93 production deadline.  The
manual for my computer is dated June 93, and in it, the machine is
called-- not MiniBook or LexBook, but "The SubNotebook"  One other
interesting point about the manual-- though they include a detailed
DOS manual, and mention Stacker and the Disney Sound Source by name,
they avoid mentioning exactly what integrated software and PIM they
have in ROM.  My guess is that they still hadn't signed an agreement
with anyone to provide the software by June of '93

My machine (Number 000000023 made, remember) was produced in Feb.
1994. Maybe they *did* make some of these under the name MiniBook,
too-- does anyone know?  By Feb. '94, probably for about the same
money, you could buy a Gateway HandBook 486.  And if I could get one
of those for $199, I might have done so :)

Obviously, that's why they didn't make more LexBooks.

My MB-15 is *not* a Windows machine, in spite of the keyboard mouse,
but with PCMCIA cards it should be able to cope with just about any
DOS programs, including Geoworks if I want a GUI.  It's obviously a
well-made, well-designed computer (made in the USA, even!)  I've been
looking for a long time for a 1-Kg DOS machine with a built-in
pointing device, and I'm glas I didn't miss this one.

And... if it's what you want, you can't get a better deal right now on
anything similar, IMHO.

My opinions, YMMV-- Any questions, you'll let me know :)

Christopher G. Mullin       mullin@selway.umt.edu   | I buy good
Special Collections Librarian     406-243-4036 (voice mail) | regular-8mm
University of Montana       406-243-2060 (fax)        | movie stuff
Missoula, MT  59812             Who else has *these* opinions--not UM!

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, al chin wrote:

> How can you tell the polarity of the center
> pole of an adapter?

You should invest in a inexpensive multimeter. They are handy for all
sorts of things.

Jeff

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Uh oh.... binaries! <grin>

Jeff


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Even more binaries?!?

Jeff


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> I'm not convinced that most people use GP; I would have thought WWWLX =
was more
> popular.

I get a kick out of seeing what mailers people use so I have the
X-Mailer header turned on in POST/LX:

Date:=3D+
Subject:=3D+
From:=3D+
To:=3D+
Cc:=3D+
X-Mailer:=3D+
*=3D-

You know you have a real stud if they're using Mutt. :)

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$125

Scott England

Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Registered

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Al,
Cathy,

I see why we are all talking around each other.  Cathy,  I just used the
windows version of the phone app to open a DATABASE.

Just override the *.pdb with *.* and pick the database.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:03:40 -0600, you wrote:


$130

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Brian Dipert wrote:

> A like-new
> Compaq C140 upgraded to CE 2.0 is headed my way as I speak...........
> ............... and I'll try to not dwell on what I'm leaving behind...

Then don't leave anything behind.  Grab a copy of XT-CE the dos emulator
that runs on the CE machines.  I don't have the URL but a couple of
minutes on any of the palmtop newsgroups should turn it up.


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On 06-08 08:35am, you had written:

# Mon,  8 Jun 1998 09:15:19 -0400 (EDT)
# Well...  running NiCds all the way down before recharging does seem to
# refresh the cells.  I do this (outside the palmtop) periodically to
# recondition them.  Can't very well do this IN the palmtop though - the
# LX will give up before the batteries do.
#
# -PR
#

I was under the perhaps mistaken impression that this was not needed
with the modern nicad batteries.
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Tue,  9 Jun 1998 13:22:05 +1200 (NZT)

05h18m47s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Jun 1998 16:03:18 -0400, Jim Smith wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get an international Compuserve phone
> directory in phone book or database format?  I know there is one for =
the
> US.

This is in the CIS:HPHAND forum lirary 9:

 Title...: CIS International Phone Numbers in PDB-format
 Keywords: PHONES INTERNATIONAL PDB COMPUSERVE CIS
 Filename: CIS_INTL.ZIP (Section 9)
 Filetype: 2 - binary
 Filesize: 34700 bytes  505 downloads
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 Abstract: This phone data base was generated by capturing the listing of =
all
international CIS access numbers (GO PHONES) and converting it to PDB =
format.
Updated May 13, 1998.


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Mon,  8 Jun 1998 21:19:31 -0400 (EDT)

04h07m10s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Jun 1998, al chin wrote:

> How can you tell the polarity of the center
> pole of an adapter?

Hi Al-

The label on the adapter should state the voltage and have a symbol
that looks sorta like this:

         _
        / \
 + -----|O----- -
        \_/

Sorry about the cockamamie ascii graphic.  Hope it helps...

Never hurts to double-check both voltage & polarity with a voltmeter.

-PR
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Don,

My solution was to put a slim piece of rubber eraser at the bottom, between
the latch and the body of the LX, and a piece of tape (actually, clear Contact
BRAND shelf paper) over the outside of the latch.

If the rubber is adequitely soft, but resilient, and if the tape is both
tenacious and flexible, the result is of the first order.

Good Luck,

lynn m. cavendish

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$150

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On 06-08 01:52pm, you had written:

# With all the discussion regarding Carousel circulating (forgive the pun),
# does anyone have experience with an early version of deskview?
#
# Also, is it correct that if one runs a keyboard from the serial port, ie
# the Shier Newton unit, that you cannot simultaneously use the IR serial
# port, for instance to print?
#


I believe you cannot use both ports at the same time.
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Russ:

> > Another question: I notice most people on this list seem to be using
> Goin
> > Postal. Is there a general consensus that it is better than Net-tamer?
>
> I'm not convinced that most people use GP; I would have thought WWWLX =
was
> more
> popular.

I won't tell numbers :-) ... It seems to me many people have
more than one package to suit their needs, since no package
does EVERYTHING perfectly. I know that a very large number of
our customers also have NetTamer - I do not know which was
first in their possession. This is going waaaaay back, so with
GP being new, I suppose it will grow too.

Hey, Uncle Dave Tolson had a nutty idea of porting NetTamer to
the palmtop. When WWW/LX and WWW/LX Plus (with email) arrived,
it becamse completely clear that the palmtops are a legitimate
and poweful platform for internet work. GP is proving it
again. The mere fact that there are options (even beyond the
three mentioned) means that the palmtop is capable of
sustaining such a workload as internet.

What I'd like to see is about a million new palmtops (200LX
<g>...) being sold. :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Mon,  8 Jun 1998 21:37:03 -0400 (EDT)

16m37s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Jun 1998, M. C. Beutler wrote:

> On 06-08 08:35am, you had written:
>
> # Mon,  8 Jun 1998 09:15:19 -0400 (EDT)
> # Well...  running NiCds all the way down before recharging does seem =
to
> # refresh the cells.
>
> I was under the perhaps mistaken impression that this was not needed
> with the modern nicad batteries.
> -

All I can tell you is that after several charge-discharge cycles (using
ABC/LX) the batteries stall sooner and at a lower voltage, and provide
less palmtop time...  Taking 'em out, completely discharging 'em then
recharging in an external charger restores their ability to take a full
charge.  I know memory-effect is supposed to be a myth, but I see about
25-30% difference this way.

-PR
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LED with a 1k resistor makes a real simple polarity tester, but then you gatta
know some electronics to build one, in which case you probably already have
meter.  But you might find a friend to do it out of the parts bin.

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Can you run Windows in the Dos emulator on CE?

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I just noticed that when I turn on my HP200lx I hear a very faint
clicking sound.  There is no sound when I turn off the machine.

The clicking sound occurs when I turn the machine on, but does not
continue after the first 2 clicks.

What could be going on?  I just noticed the clicking sound today.

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:33:31 -0500, you wrote:

$155

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On 06-03 03:57pm, you had written:

# >
# > 1994 HP 200LX
# >          SONY MagicLink
#
# Have one of each
#
# Peter W. Borders
#


What the heck is a Sony MagicLink?
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Date:         Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:15:33 -0700
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On Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:13:53 -0400 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
writes:

>> Do you use a modem with your palmtop running just on batteries?
>
>Nope.  Single-speed 100LX - 12V Flash card - (external modem)
>
>> I use the RS hi-capacity NiCds in my 100lx (with flashcard) and
>>usually get 25-27 hours between rechargings
>
>That's terrific!  I haven't seen that kind of life since I was using a
>1M SRAM card.  BTW - how are you measuring the time?  I noticed that
>Buddy and ABC/LX give almost identical times that agree with my watch.
>Battman (at least when used at the same time as Buddy) gave me a time
>double what Buddy (and my watch) said.
>

I have been using BATTMAN to measure the time. Hmm . . . I didn't
consider that it might be inaccurate. I've never used Buddy (despite the
raves). So far I have been afraid of the memory hit adding TSR would
mean. I run a 5 volt 32MB Simple Tech card. Which could make a
difference. I used to use a 1MB SCRAM card also, but that was before I
switched to the higher capacity batteries.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Patrick,
Believe it or not, I still use Direct Access on my DOS/Win 3.1 PC at home. Have for years. I like it a lot for an easy DOS type menu system to help me, my wife and kids quickly and directly access any DOS or Windows program.
Although I like it, I wouldn't think of using it on my LX. I am more than happy with the built-in System Manager.
Then again, I would rather use the built-in Memo Editor than installing WP 5.1. Additionally, the built-in database satisfies my needs. No need for dBase or Paradox. That's just me.
Hope that helps.
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On 06-08 09:02pm, the following was written:

> I just noticed that when I turn on my HP200lx I hear a very faint
> clicking sound.  There is no sound when I turn off the machine.
>

Mine does it also. I have always assumed it was a normal thing. Can anyone
elaborate on the sound?

Jeff


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Subject:      PNR import formats (Was: Re: modem connecting gear ...)
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Peter W <peterw@clark.net> writes:
> For those with direct UNIX shell access and zmodem/xmodem capability,
> definitely check out PNR 1.2 at http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hplx.html
> as PNR version 2.x is POP3-only, which Rod Whitby thinks is an
> improvement but I disagree; even with cheap phone calls I have better
> things to do with my time and batteries. ;-)

Peter,

Please note that versions 2.x of PNR will also read standard Unix
"From " mailboxes (used by most Unix mail programs) and MMDF mailboxes
(used by MH, I believe).  The only thing I took out is the UQWK
support (as I believe that standard Unix mailbox formats are more
portable and open than UQWK formats).

So you can just ftp your standard Unix mailbox (/usr/spool/<username>)
and run PNRTI on it directly.

Version 3.x of PNR (don't ask me when it will be available) will be
able to import folders of mail or news from Unix directly into your
PNR folders directory (one file per folder), and then re-index them
for the palmtop.

If you have any other suggestions for improving download times for PNR
from Unix, please let me know.

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Subject:      Re: FS: 6MB double-speed HP200LX

$150

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Subject:      Re: HELP- Problems with 32MB upgrade & EXMBATCH!!!
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Jorgen,

Why didn't you contact me (the ExmBatch author) directly ?

I'm using ExmBatch with a T2T 32MB upgrade with no problems.

Can you give me (by private email) a blow-by-blow description of what
you're doing with ExmBatch, and I'll try and debug the problem.

I can't think of any way that the 32MB upgrade would interact with
ExmBatch, except if you're doing a swap of C: and F: while ExmBatch is
runing (and I can't even think how that would affect it).

Also, then string "Intermediate file error during pipe" does not occur
anywhere in ExmBatch, so that message must be coming from DOS or SC.

Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> writes:
> I have just received my 200LX with a 32MB upgrade and I have one problem.
> I have moved some programs to the F: drive (32MB) and changed my
> EXMBATCH.EXM files accordingly. However, I have now a serious problem-
> after my programs has been runned and I exit the programs I get following
> message:
>
> "Intermediate file error during pipe"
> and then I will get files with names as AABBSNSJ which include the screen
> output. The palmtop hangs of course and I have to do a 3 finger salute.
>
> I am not sure if it's something wrong with my 32MB upgrade or with
> EXMBATCH- but I think the problem is with EXMBATCH since everything else
> works fine.
>
> Have anyone experienced this problem- please advice.

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On 06-08 10:12pm, the following was written:

> Version 3.x of PNR (don't ask me when it will be available) will be
> able to import folders of mail or news from Unix directly into your
> PNR folders directory (one file per folder), and then re-index them
> for the palmtop.

What are the odds of Version 3.x supporting a mode that will allow one to
download headers and then mark them for later retrival? This, at least for
me, would speed-up the downloading process. I frequently download several
hundred articles, then usually only read 1/10 of them. I really have enjoyed
using LXNNTP under Goin' Postal.

Jeff


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Subject:      Re: FS: 6MB double-speed HP200LX

$160

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Before I pose my question to the list members, let me state what hardware I
am using:

HP200LX
T2T Speed Upgrade
T2T 8MB Upgrade

With this in mind, here's my question:

I have noticed that my available RAM varies between 431K & 433K. This is
what puzzles me. Why does the available memory vary? I always have the same
TSR's loaded. It's not a big deal, everything works great, it just makes me
wonder why it varies.

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In a message dated 98-06-08 18:11:49 EDT, you write:

<<
 I'm not convinced that most people use GP;
 I would have thought WWWLX was more
 popular.
  >>
What is the download file name of WWW?

yor pal al..................

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> How can you tell the polarity of the center
> pole of an adapter?

The label on the adapter should state the voltage and have a symbol
that looks sorta like this:
        _
        / \
 + -----|O----- -
        \_/

Never hurts to double-check both voltage & polarity with a voltmeter.
You're right, but I can't tell the difference between a v meter from a clock.
I thought there may color coded, size, or shaped so lay people can tell.

yor pal al...................

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>
>My 200LX is for sale. Double-clocked and bumped from 2MB to 6MB by
Thaddeus in
>early February of this year. In mint condition, and comes with serial cable,
>AC adapter and two NiCD rechargeables. I'll also include my registered
copy of
>Intellisync, plus a bunch of freeware I've found useful.
>
>Best offer. Let the bidding begin!
>
>Regards,
>BD


Is that the HP ac adapter? What's your best offer so far?
Thanks.

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Wow, folks, thanks for the kind words (really, I expected to be severely
flamed!) and the interest. I realized after just looking at the Thaddeus
invoice that I'd messed up....the memory upgrade was to 8MB, not 6MB. Also,
I'll throw in my copy of DayTimer Organizer 2.1 which syncs up nicely with the
200LX using Intellisync. And...it includes a user manual set in like-new
condition, the original packing materials, a few issues of the HP Palmtop
Paper and a copy of PC In Your Pocket.

Also, my comment about 'let the bidding begin' was meant in a kidding way; I
certainly don't want this to turn into an Ebay! Here's what I'll do....twice a
day I'll update my home page at http://members.aol.com/bdipert with the high
bid to that point. I'll cut the 'contest' off at 9PM PST Sunday night, out of
fairness to all interested parties. Sale at that point is only pending
acceptance of the C140 on its way to me.

Assume your bid includes UPS ground shipping, if you want COD or air shipping
it'll cost you more. Personal checks must clear before I send the goods to
you.

By the way, high bid to date is $250....and now that it's 8MB, not 6MB as
incorrectly posted the first time around.....
===========================================
Well, Redmond finally snagged me. It's been increasingly more difficult to
integrate the HP200LX into my work environment, what with Puma Technology
dropping support and upgrades to Intellisync for the 200LX, and Transfile
Win200 working sporadically on my Windows 95 PCs. One too many Word or Excel
97 email attachments that I couldn't read pushed me over the edge. A like-new
Compaq C140 upgraded to CE 2.0 is headed my way as I speak. Easier
synchronization with Outlook and Outlook Express, as well as the ability to
hook into my existing TCP-IP network, will be nice, and I'll try to not dwell
on what I'm leaving behind...

My 200LX is for sale. Double-clocked and bumped from 2MB to 8MB by Thaddeus in
early February of this year. In mint condition, and comes with serial cable,
AC adapter and two NiCD rechargeables. I'll also include my registered copy of
Intellisync.

Best offer. Let the bidding begin!

Regards,

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:21:40 +0200
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You want to sell it for 100$?

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> 100$
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Subject:      ReÝ2¨: Oldest Palmtop on the List >> Lexmark
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FWIW, Lexmark was the brand that IBM used when setting up a new (internal)
division to sell consumer PC products (nowadays printers etc).
Jez

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>> I know Lexmark made ThinkPad 500 for IBM,

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At 15:58 08.06.98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>ABSOLUTELY NOT!  The 200LX (and 100LX) need
>a DC supply (negative center on the plug) -
>nominally 12V, but actually 9.6 to 14.4 volts
>according to the manual.
>
>How can you tell the polarity of the center
>pole of an adapter?

My HP700LX which is an 200LX says positive on the center. This is marked
near the connector on the HP.
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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
> What are the odds of Version 3.x supporting a mode that will allow one to
> download headers and then mark them for later retrival? This, at least for
> me, would speed-up the downloading process. I frequently download several
> hundred articles, then usually only read 1/10 of them. I really have enjoyed
> using LXNNTP under Goin' Postal.

Fairly slim.  One small step at a time (and I don't have much time
available).  My first priority is seamless interoperability when I
leave and come back from trips overseas (i.e. the ability to transfer
mail & news message folders to/from Unix).

Of couse, the source code to PNR and LXTCP are available, and anyone
is welcome to implement any features they require :-)  If they contact
me first to spec out the improvement, then there's a very good chance
that their improvements would be added to the distribution version.

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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>How do I go about getting an account with Compuserve that will run on my=

>HP200lx?

You can still use CIS via the DOS-CIM program. I use it every day from
my desktop computer. However, some forums are 100% web-based and these
cannot be accessed without a web-browser (DOS-Lynx?). You can access FTP
and telnet via DOS-CIM.

There is also a special program called something like accCIS made for
the LX. I don't know much about it.

CIS supports cc:mail so you may be able to use the built-in program. I
have not tried it myself.

While we are at CIS: I have seen some critisism of CIS on this list.
I would therefore like to add that I have used CIS for years here in the
UK and been more than happy with the service.

Jorgen


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I don=B4t know if Going postal is better.
But Going Postal does save me a precious PCMCIA slot for modem and it can
be run on a 1mb HPLX.

Of course it would be good a Going Postal 64 column version for better
reading of emails.

Pablo KIM
From ARGENTINA...98 Worldcup Champion :-)
----------
> De: Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
> A:=20
> Asunto: Net-tamer vs Goin Postal
> Fecha: Lunes 8 de Junio de 1998 10:05 AM
>=20
> Another question: I notice most people on this list seem to be using Go=
in
> Postal. Is there a general consensus that it is better than Net-tamer?
>=20
> Any opinions in either direction?
>=20
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> Steve
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A86 can be found on
    http://eji.com/index.htm

Very fast assembly. Good debugger for COM files (Borlands and Microsofts
debugger does not support COM files). Minimal red tape in making a new
program.

I am not 100% happy about his local labels from a software engineering
viewpoint (TASM is better here), but the virtues of A86 more than
compensate for that. I also do not like, that the library manager use
source code and not object code, since this defeats the idea of making
black box-libraries; however you can make OBJ files and an external
library manager.

   A86     31,568 bytes  (assembler)
   D86     18,646 bytes  (debugger)

If (hopefully, *when*) you register, you get the library manager, A386
and D386 as well as an update for D86. I have forgotten the registration
fee, but it is cheap (but don't tell him that!).

I have used it extensively for a large number of ASM programs and can
fully recommend it.

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Add a fool proof method:
stick the plug into a drop of water and observe which pole develops more gas
bubbles - this is the negative pole.
Winfried Zettelmeyer, Malaga/Spain

Al Chin wrote:

> > How can you tell the polarity of the center
> > pole of an adapter?
>
> The label on the adapter should state the voltage and have a symbol
> that looks sorta like this:
>         _
>         / \
>  + -----|O----- -
>         \_/
>
> Never hurts to double-check both voltage & polarity with a voltmeter.
> You're right, but I can't tell the difference between a v meter from a clock.
> I thought there may color coded, size, or shaped so lay people can tell.
>
> yor pal al...................
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Because I'll order one for my 200LX,
anyone have had some compatibility problem with the Marcan memory upgrade?


Pablo KIM
from Argentina

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> Then don't leave anything behind.  Grab a copy of XT-CE the dos emulato=
r
> that runs on the CE machines.  I don't have the URL but a couple of
> minutes on any of the palmtop newsgroups should turn it up.

On a Cassiopeia 2.0 6mb ram it was very very slow...!!! (I was tempted al=
so
by Wince before this "test".)

Of course for your "hell=B4s" experience here is the XTCE site:

http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/


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I thought it only did that if CIC100 was enabled in the AUTOEXEC.BAT.  Mine
does or does not as matching the 'REM' being there or not on the line that
loads it.  Ergo I think the click is the enabler at work.

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Lionel Zuckier wrote:

> As a new-comer, I am enjoying the wealth of information in this mailing
> list.  I have 2 questions to add.
>
> With all the discussion regarding Carousel circulating (forgive the pun),
> does anyone have experience with an early version of deskview?

Desqview was discussed some time ago and if I remember correctly, one of
its problems was that it eats a lot of conventional memory - even with
EMS.

It does run on the LX, however.

Regards,

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   >After reading several posts on programs like Software Carousel, I
   >went digging in the back of my network/parts closet because my
   >company used such a program long ago. What I found is a DOS-based
   >program called Direct Access by a company called Fifth Generation
   >Systems. It allows you to switch between DOS programs and gives you
   >simple menu controls. According to the requirements on the box it
   >should be compatible with any DOS machine and even won Editor's
   >Choice from PC Magazine for what its worth (1.15.1991).
Message-Id: <19980609101650.WAFK14420@Ý12.64.8.156¨>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:16:50 +0000

   >Before I go tearing my 200lx flash disk to pieces, I was wondering
   >if anyone has experimented with this program before - good or bad?
   >I like the built-in software on the LX but as I run several
   >programs from DOS (like WP5.1) there might be something to my
   >running DOS fulltime (at least from the flash disk).

Patrick,

I've used Direct Access way back before 1991. Back then at least, it was
just a menu system and not a task swapper. In other words, you used it
to simplify access to your applications, but you couldn't run several
apps at the same time.

They may have improved later versions of Direct Access, but I didn't
keep up with it to know if it was ever made into a Software Carousel
type task swapper.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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I don't know.

On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:

> Can you run Windows in the Dos emulator on CE?
>

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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On 06-08 09:46pm, was written:

# > I just noticed that when I turn on my HP200lx I hear a very faint
# > clicking sound.  There is no sound when I turn off the machine.
# >
#
# Mine does it also. I have always assumed it was a normal thing. Can anyone
# elaborate on the sound?
#
# Jeff
#

I have noticed this on desktop machines as well as my Hp200.  I assume
this is the speaker clicking when the machine is initialized.  In fact,
when my W95 desktop is starting up, the speakers click once when the
sound card driver is loaded.
regards,
-
**********************************************************************
     mark beutler                           mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.13) REGISTERED

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Thanks for all the replys regarding identification of my AC adapter. It
seems that I need one for my 200LX as the other one is for the 95LX.

If you have a spare 200LX adapter for sale please email me. Can't run a
modem from batteries....
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Nick Marsh
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How do you change MRU or MTU with EPPPD ?  I use GP (which uses EPPPD) and
have some timeout problems - may be unrelated but I'd be interested to  try.

There is a very good utility and informtion on this problem at:

http://www.sns-access.com/~netpro/maxmtu.htm#explain

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:09:19 -0400
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I hate to be repetitive, but...

Do either of these packages, GP or WWW/LX (Pro) connect to an NT RAS server?

Right now that's my largest concern. Second is what features the package
has, as long as it supports e-mail. Web browsing would be nice, I think  :)

Steve

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*Global* ISPs?  Try IBM.

Russ Brooks
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Depending upon which countries you'll be in, try Earthlink. They have local
dial-up numbers in several cities in Europe, Australia and Japan, and
extensive coverage in the US and Canada. Their service is excellent. See
www.earthlink.net for a list of dial-up numbers and cities.

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*Global* ISPs?  Try IBM.

Russ Brooks

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I used Desqview for a couple of years.
It was very good.  The fastest most
rock solid operating system I have
ever used in fact.  I was thinking of
putting it on the HP dos machines.

I just threw mine mint in the trash
yesterday, 24 hours ago.

aaaggggggghhhhhhhhh

yor pal al............


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On further fiddling, I now notice that when I remove my fax/modem card, the
faint clicking sound goes away when I start the machine.  Also, if I insert my
HP ram card (with no fax/modem capability) and turn on the machine, there is
NO clicking sound.   Must be something with the fax/modem card that makes the
machine click on start up.

*****************************************************************************************

Jeff Johns wrote:

> On 06-08 09:02pm, the following was written:
>
> > I just noticed that when I turn on my HP200lx I hear a very faint
> > clicking sound.  There is no sound when I turn off the machine.
> >
>
> Mine does it also. I have always assumed it was a normal thing. Can anyone
> elaborate on the sound?
>
> Jeff
>
>     *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>     |Jeff Johns  KF4KGQ  Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>     |Email: jeffj@scott.net   Urgent AlphaPager Email: pagejeff@scott.net|
>     |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
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> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.13) REGISTERED
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I am looking for an external trickle charger, that feeds 1.5 V, 10-40ma to
AA batteries in parallel (that is, not in series so each battery gets its
own 1.5, usually through a zener diode for each).

I would prefer that the current can be tunable, but whatever I can find
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Hi,

That's correct. The clicking sounds comes from the fact that the palmtop
get to "see" (CIC100 TSR) the modem and I think the click is from the =
modem
itself.

Regards,

Jorgen


> On further fiddling, I now notice that when I remove my fax/modem card, =
the
> faint clicking sound goes away when I start the machine.  Also, if I =
insert my
> HP ram card (with no fax/modem capability) and turn on the machine, =
there is
> NO clicking sound.   Must be something with the fax/modem card that =
makes the
> machine click on start up.
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Hello,
Do You know what I need to make dial-up connection using GP. What I must
use additionally and how to configure?
Thank You in advance.

Alexander Stanovoy

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
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> How do you change MRU or MTU with EPPPD ?  I use GP (which uses EPPPD) and
> have some timeout problems - may be unrelated but I'd be interested to  try.
>
> There is a very good utility and informtion on this problem at:
>
> http://www.sns-access.com/~netpro/maxmtu.htm#explain
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First, I'd like to apologize to anyone who gets both the HPLX-L list
and CIS's HPHAND, as I'm crossposting this to bothh forums:

As most of you know, my wife and I recently took a 2 week trip to
Ireland, England, and Scotland.  I just wanted to share with you the
experiences of palmtopping while in a foreign land.

1.  Modem access was tough; even though I came prepared with an
acoustic coupler and phone adapters, frequently when we were in the
country, the connections were so bad that I couldn't get the modem to
connect, or if I did, it was at a painful 1200-2400 baud.

2.  Modem access in urban areas was better.  Don't use a phone in a
hotel as most of them charge like 25 pence/minute, even for local
calls.  The newer British Telecom phones have a non-standard handset
that won't mate with my acoustic coupler, so I had so search for other
pay phones, or older BT phones.  Also, stay away from the BT payhones
in pubs and whatnot that look like regular phones with a coin slot,
they require you to dial the number, listen for an answer, then insert
$$$ to transmit.  No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make that
work.  Your mileage may vary.

3.  Global ISPs:  I used WWW/LX as my client software, with CIS as my
ISP.  No troubble, I even had Post/LX setup to check my personal
(non-CIS) and work POP3 email!  I also tried Gric (http://www.gric.com)
as my ISP is a Gric member (and I'm assistant sysadmin for them).
Worked well, but had zero coverage in Ireland, whereas CIS did have
coverage.

4.  Energizer Hi-Energy Lithiums are wonderful things, I only went
through 2 sets in 2 weeks, with PCMCIA modem use and heavy serial port
use (I was using my Kodak DC20 to take pictures.)  No recharging or
trying to find an outlet.  :)  But now that I'm back in the states.
it's back to Mack's Super-NiMHs.

5.  The Kodak DC20 and LXDC worked great together.  I used IMG2BMP
(available from the Japanese home of LXDC, sorry, I don't have the
URL); and cjpeg (from simtel) to convert the .img files that the DC20
generates to .bmp, ten to .jpg.  It was a lengthy process, and took
around 10 min/picture (on my 2x 32mb unit), so I wrote a batch file to
automate the process, and had the apptbook kick it off at 12:30 each
nite.  I woke up to nice, compact .jpgs, ready for web page use.

6.  I do have a web page journal of the trip, it's at
http://www.garlic.com/~childers/uktrip.  Untortunately, I had a
cross-linked file which wiped out the last 4 days of web pages, which I
need to reconstruct.  (Glad I moved all pictures to flash media).  The
first 9 days are up, though.

In conclusion, the LX was a wonderful traveling companion (like you
didn't know that).  WWW/LX performed admirably, as did Mack's 32 MB
upgrade.  Feel free to email me with questions... as I think I've taken
up enough public bandwidth.  :)

Bill

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Do you have a PCMCIA modem attached?  I have heard the click on startup as
well, and it's only when I have the CIC100 driver running and have a modem
plugged in.  If there's no modem or the driver isn't loaded, then no
click.

Cheers.
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No compatibility problems.  Mine has worked great!  It's a great value.
Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN





Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR> on 06/09/98 04:08:32 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
      respond to Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>

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Subject:  MARCAN  memory upgrade Kit.




Because I'll order one for my 200LX,
anyone have had some compatibility problem with the Marcan memory upgrade?


Pablo KIM
from Argentina

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Man, if there were an HPLX "hall of fame," Curtis Cameron would be one of
my first nominees!  If only people like him worked for Microsoft; the
programs would be 1/10 the size and run twice as fast!

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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I'm not sure, I've never connected GP to RAS.  RAS is supposed to be PPP,
so it should connect however EPPPD doesn't support MS CHAP (Microsofts
version of CHAP login - yeah, they've got to hack every standard for
their own..).  RAS would need to be configured to accept PAP or standard
CHAP authentication.  Maybe an NT wiz can tell us if that's possible?

As for features, GP is email -period-.  It's primary goal in life
is to pack as many email features into as little space as I can.
WWW/LX Pro does everything including web browsing, and that's its
goal in life.

> I hate to be repetitive, but...
>
> Do either of these packages, GP or WWW/LX (Pro) connect to an NT RAS server?
>
> Right now that's my largest concern. Second is what features the package
> has, as long as it supports e-mail. Web browsing would be nice, I think  :)

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Tue,  9 Jun 1998 09:43:00 -0400 (EDT)

06h46m17s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Jun 1998, Reino Sorlie wrote:

> My HP700LX which is an 200LX says positive on the center. This is =
marked
> near the connector on the HP.
> --

Interesting about the 700LX.  Just to be absolutely sure, I looked
again at my 100LX, 200LX, both manuals, and the HP adapter.  Negative
center.  The 700 must use a different adapter...

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Tue,  9 Jun 1998 10:10:06 -0400 (EDT)

1 day 12h19m44s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> LED with a 1k resistor makes a real simple polarity tester...

Yep.  A slight refinement would be to use a bipolar LED - one that
lights green with one polarity & red with the reverse.

An el cheapo multimeter (or a good one if you have it) is still a
better bet, since you can also check the adapter voltage to see if it's
in spec...

-PR
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Tue,  9 Jun 1998 09:49:29 -0400 (EDT)

11h59m06s ago ...
On Mon,  8 Jun 1998, David C Smalley wrote:

> I have been using BATTMAN to measure the time. Hmm . . . I didn't
> consider that it might be inaccurate. I've never used Buddy (despite =
the
> raves). So far I have been afraid of the memory hit adding TSR would
> mean. I run a 5 volt 32MB Simple Tech card. Which could make a
> difference.

I'm not sure if what I found was an inaccuracy in Battman, or an
interaction between Battman & Buddy.  It would be interesting to see if
Battman used without Buddy gives correct time readings...

Probably your 5V Simple Tech card uses less power than my older 12V
card.  I hope your timer readings are correct.  8-)

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Hi There,

Unfortunately my SanDisk flash card got a hit and the top part of the
metal casing has some damage. The card still works, but I wouldn't mind =
to
open it up and strait out the metal- any idea how to open a SanDisk flash
card?

Thanks,

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Those of you interested in Infrared connections might be interested in =
this
announcement
by IBM.  I doubt any of it will work with the 200LX as is, but maybe so=
meone
could hack
something useful from it.

> http://www.chips.ibm.com/news/fastir.html

Russ Brooks
=

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Anyone know of an infrared serial link to the desktop?  i.e. something that
works pretty much like having the serial cable hooked in, but in fact
you're just using the IR link?

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Tue,  9 Jun 1998 10:48:27 -0400 (EDT)

01h31m40s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Jun 1998, hplx wrote:

> I am looking for an external trickle charger, that feeds 1.5 V, 10-40ma =
to
> AA batteries in parallel (that is, not in series so each battery gets =
its
> own 1.5, usually through a zener diode for each).
>
> I would prefer that the current can be tunable, but whatever I can find
> under 50ma is great.  Any ideas?

This is a simple project to build.  The easiest way would be to use a
cheap wall-wart adaptor + individual holders for each AA cell you want
to charge.  Hook one side if the adaptor (say negative) to the same
pole of each cell holder.  Then connect the other side to each cell
through a resistor.  The value of the resistors should be:
        (Adaptor V - 1.2) / desired current
For example - for a 9V adaptor and 25mA:
        9-1.2 =3D 7.8    7.8/.025 =3D 312  The nearest standard value =
would
be 330 ohms.  The minimum power rating of the resistors is the current
squared * resistance - in the example .025*.025=3D.000625*330=3D.2063
In this case you need at least a 1/4 watt resistor, or preferably a 1/2 =
watt.

This would be a lot clearer with a schematic, but I'm too @#$!& lazy to
try to do this with ascii graphics...

For a little better version, you could use an adjustable voltage
regulator (like an LM317), and wire the battery holders to its output
the same way.  Then all you need to do is vary the voltage to set the
charging current.

HTH

-PR
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Thanks for the reply.  I had thought of doing this, but I figured I would
need a 1.5 V Adapter.  So a question below...

At 11:44 AM 6/9/98 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

 > This is a simple project to build.  The easiest way would be to use a
 > cheap wall-wart adaptor + individual holders for each AA cell you want
 > to charge.  Hook one side if the adaptor (say negative) to the same
 > pole of each cell holder.  Then connect the other side to each cell
 > through a resistor.  The value of the resistors should be:
 >         (Adaptor V - 1.2) / desired current

Okay, I can get the parts easily, and this is just ohm's law, but is that
1.2 V the voltage of the battery?  and if so, then in your example...

 > For example - for a 9V adaptor and 25mA:
 >         9-1.2 = 7.8    7.8/.025 = 312  Ohms.

I take it that the circuit will feed each parallel battery 7.8 V at 25ma.
Won't feeding a 1.5 (1.2) V battery 7.8 V be destructive?  (The potential
is much greater than the chemical potential, and could cause crystal growth
on  the cathode or anode plates, right?)

OR am I understanding Ohm's law incorrectly.  Will adding a 312 Ohm
resistor drop the voltage to 1.2 V and only allow 25ma to flow?

If this is so, then why doesn't the AC adapter current rating come into the
picture.  I guess I am confused.  The point is, I suppose the resistor
drops the voltage and since the battery internal resistance is low
comparatively, the current draw is mostly dictated by the resistor.  But
won't the resistor then absorb the amperage and just heat up, leaving
little current for the low-resistive battery?

I admit, I don't know electronics...

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Place "mru 576" just before "file" on the "EPPPD" line in GP.BAT.  I've
been doing a little experimentation with receiving large messages over
a hardwired link to my FreeBSD box and an mru of 576 works much better
than the default of 1500.  I'll probably add the mru change to the
GP.BAT file for V2, after I run the idea by the testers and make sure
it doesn't break anyones working configurations.

> How do you change MRU or MTU with EPPPD ?  I use GP (which uses EPPPD) and
> have some timeout problems - may be unrelated but I'd be interested to  try.
>
> There is a very good utility and informtion on this problem at:
>
> http://www.sns-access.com/~netpro/maxmtu.htm#explain
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:39:00 -0700
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Subject:      Re: How to open a PCMCIA card?
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>

Hi, Jorgen:
>
There is a drawing of the flash card and pin-outs on SanDisk's site at www.sandisk.com
>
That said, I doubt you'll be able to open it successfully as virtually all PC Cards are welded shut. Why not try to do an exchange with them in Singapore or through the corporate location here in CA? Their Tech Support number in Santa Clara is 408.542.0503.
>
Bernie Torbik

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   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            How to open a PCMCIA card?
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   >Date:       Tuesday, 9 June 1998 07:38
   >
   >Hi There,
   >
   >Unfortunately my SanDisk flash card got a hit and the top part of the
   >metal casing has some damage. The card still works, but I wouldn't mind to
   >open it up and strait out the metal- any idea how to open a SanDisk flash
   >card?
   >
   >Thanks,
   >
   >Jorgen
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:38:36 -0600
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I am *really* down to the wire and discovered a major obstacle!  Please
help if you can!

Recap: Can get palmtop to receive data from GPS unit only *sometimes*

Details:

I am using a HP 100LX.  I am not experienced with palmtops (other than a
few days and all of last night) .  (The HP 100LX runs DOS ver 5.00)  My
mission: download files from a Trimble GeoExplorer (Geo) to the palmtop.

Trimble provides a program, load.exe, which can be run from the DOS
prompt on a PC.  The customary arrangement is to connect the Geo to the
PC COMM port with a (Trimble) cable.  Thus, I connect the palmtop as
follows:
palmtop-HPCable-GenderChangerConnector-NullModemConnector-TrimbleCable-GPS.

Both units are running on AAs (palmtop:2, Geo:4)

Good News:  With load.exe on the palmtop, I can successfully establish
connection with Geo and read the file dir on the Geo and pull off tiny
(<1k) files.

Bad News:  When I try to download a file containing meaningful data
(multiple positions) (>1k, sometimes many k), the load.exe reports
"unable to load nnnnn from data logger" (the nnnnn represents the
filename).  The program then quits (whereas usually it grabs all files
from the Geo).

I have done some troubleshooting:
    files=, buffers= meet sftw specs
    made plenty of room on the c: drive and flash card (in case of temp
files)
    I ran load.exe from a: and c: and e:
    I replaced all AA batteries
    I tried various settings, increasing avail RAM to up to 411760
    I tried different baud settings (not sure if this really did
anything -- Filer/Menu/Comm was where I changed it; it's back to 9600
now)
    I tried 2 versions of load.exe
    I tried 2 different HP 100LXs
    All operations worked normally from a PC, for this Geo and set of
data
    I am sure there was more... (it was a long night)

Any clues?  I have someone at Trimble working on this but they
apparently are not familiar with using a palmtop rather than a PC.  I am
calling HP, too.  I "need" to be done with this in hours.  Any help
would be **greatly** appreciated; *Thanks*

-Noel

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:02:57 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Please Help!!!  HP 100LX, comm port | download to from GPS
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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:

> I am *really* down to the wire and discovered a major obstacle!  Please
> help if you can!
>
> Recap: Can get palmtop to receive data from GPS unit only *sometimes*

If you're running a DOS app from within SysMgr, then it may be interrupted
as SysMgr polls the running apps. Can't tell from your description whether
this is the case or not, but to avoid the SysMgr interference you have 2
choices:

1) Exit completely out of SysMgr before running load.exe (ie, from the
icon screen, Menu/Application/Terminate all/OK.
        - then from DOS, run load.exe

2) If you're running load.exe from a created icon in SysMgr, edit the
icon's comment field by putting an inverted exclamation there (Fn-!) which
tells SysMgr not to interrupt.

If you're running load.exe from Filer, by pointing and shooting..then I
think SysMgr is your problem. Use either of the two choices above instead.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:40:14 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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My collection of zip archives is growing on my 200LX and I need 2
utilities to help manage them. I currently use zr (ZipRay) and pkzip to do
most of the work, but I'd like:

1) Something more featured than ZipRay, that would allow me to delete
(or move or rename) things in the archive(s).

2) Something like grep (I already have egrep and xgrep and Norton's
FileFind) that'll search for text strings in archives as well as regular
files.

Anyone has personal recommendations for the above (and where to get them)?

Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:11:35 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue,  9 Jun 1998 13:38:47 -0400 (EDT)

01h07m19s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Jun 1998, hplx wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.  I had thought of doing this, but I figured I =
would
> need a 1.5 V Adapter.  So a question below...
>
> I take it that the circuit will feed each parallel battery 7.8 V at =
25ma.
> Won't feeding a 1.5 (1.2) V battery 7.8 V be destructive?  (The potentia=
l
> is much greater than the chemical potential, and could cause crystal =
growth
> on  the cathode or anode plates, right?)

Nope, the 7.8V will be the voltage drop across the resistor, not the
battery.

> OR am I understanding Ohm's law incorrectly.  Will adding a 312 Ohm
> resistor drop the voltage to 1.2 V and only allow 25ma to flow?

Correct  8-)

> If this is so, then why doesn't the AC adapter current rating come into =
the
> picture.  I guess I am confused.  The point is, I suppose the resistor
> drops the voltage and since the battery internal resistance is low
> comparatively, the current draw is mostly dictated by the resistor.  =
But
> won't the resistor then absorb the amperage and just heat up, leaving
> little current for the low-resistive battery?

Hmmm... actually, thats basically the idea.  (Although the resistor
doesn't "absorb amperage", it drops the voltage, and limits current).
The resistor will heat (slightly).  Thats the reason for the power
calculation. (Less than 1/4 watt in the example I gave).  Always
figure the power dissipation of the resistors, and choose those with
higher ratings.  The current is limited by the resistor to whatever
current you design for.  The AC adaptor current rating does play a
part, since there will also be some voltage drop under load.  When you
figure the value of your resistors, use the adaptor's voltage under
load.

HTH  8-)

-PR
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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:48:26 -0400
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              John McDonald <johnmcd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Russ,

Netcom has a service they call Global Roaming. Check them out
at www.netcom.com.

John McDonald

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:07:05 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Oh, one more thing.  Don't mess with the mtu (that's MTU, MRU is ok to
play with).  Locks up and requires a Ctrl-Shift-On reboot.  I've looked
into the WATTCP stack and mtu negotiation appears to be lacking as
far as I can tell.  Tonight I'm going to play with the stack a bit
as far as mss/mtu is concerned.  Might explain some rare and
unreproducable problems (those that appear at the whim of which
modem you happen to get, because an ISP can't seem to configure
all their lines to work alike).

For all of you waiting for version 2, it's coming.  I've been delaying
it as little last-minute things come in (why is it the little things
never get reported until you drop the 'beta'  :-) ).  I'm getting very
good feedback from my registered users, and I hope when I feel comfortable
releasing it you'll like the finished product!

> Place "mru 576" just before "file" on the "EPPPD" line in GP.BAT.  I've
> been doing a little experimentation with receiving large messages over
> a hardwired link to my FreeBSD box and an mru of 576 works much better
> than the default of 1500.  I'll probably add the mru change to the
> GP.BAT file for V2, after I run the idea by the testers and make sure
> it doesn't break anyones working configurations.
>
> > How do you change MRU or MTU with EPPPD ?  I use GP (which uses EPPPD) and
> > have some timeout problems - may be unrelated but I'd be interested to  try.
> >
> > There is a very good utility and informtion on this problem at:
> >
> > http://www.sns-access.com/~netpro/maxmtu.htm#explain
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:31:45 +0200
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              xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
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Subject:      Connectivity Software for OS/2
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Hello,

On the Brads paltmop page
(http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/WBCarlson/) there's a link for
an OS/2 version of the Connectivity Pack. Unfortunately, this link
(http://hpcvbbs.external.hp.com:80/palmtops/200/appnote/os2.html) is not
longer valid.

Does anyone know if there is a connectivity pack for OS/2?


Xavi
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:39:32 -0500
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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You folks might be interested in this from Halted Specialties:
http://www.halted.com/specials/pc.htm
(go to the bottom of the page)
I have NO IDEA whether either of these will work with the palmtop, but the
price seems right for an experiment.  Personally, I have no use for an IR
connection, since I just use a flash card for file transfers.

FWIW, I purchased the PCMCIA sound card listed on the same page.  I
haven't tried it out yet, but it does include DOS drivers...
I'll let you know if it works in the LX.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:47:56 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Clicking sound when power on 200lx
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>

I use a wireless 3Com modem card in my 200 LX, and when I turn on the
palmtop, I get TWO clicks, both of them coming (I think) from the modem.  I
also don't  (or don't either ?) get any clicks when inserting my 40 MB
Pretec Flash ATA card. By the way, the wireless modem  works great for
getting my Email while I'm on the road, as long as I am within the "lower
48".
Thanks.

Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
1400 West Park Street
Urbana, IL   61801
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Clicking sound when power on 200lx


Hi,

That's correct. The clicking sounds comes from the fact that the palmtop
get to "see" (CIC100 TSR) the modem and I think the click is from the modem
itself.

Regards,

Jorgen


> On further fiddling, I now notice that when I remove my fax/modem card,
the
> faint clicking sound goes away when I start the machine.  Also, if I
insert my
> HP ram card (with no fax/modem capability) and turn on the machine, there
is
> NO clicking sound.   Must be something with the fax/modem card that makes
the
> machine click on start up.
>

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Sounds like you covered all of your bases Noel.  I can think of a couple of
areas that you might not have touched on.
1.  The cable connections are notorious for being intermittent or just not
connected.  You have many connectors in the line that can fail.  Have you
tried a different cable?  Have you thought of making up your own cable to
get rid of the gender and null modem change connectors?
2.  I have no experience with the Trimble GPS unit, only the DeLorme GPS
receiver.  I can surmise that since the Trimble unit works with a PC, that
perhaps it draws alot of current from the HPLX.  Have you tried to plug in
the HPLX to an AC adapter, just to see if you are able to download your
data?
3.  The third area that could be a problem is that on the DeLorme GPS
receiver, you need to pull one of the pins "active" before it will download
the data from the receiver.  I don't know if the Trimble unit has the same
requirement, but you might check with Trimble to find out.
Best of luck,
Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN





Noel Weaver <n.weaver@USA.NET> on 06/09/98 11:38:36 AM

Please respond to n.weaver@usa.net

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  Please Help!!!  HP 100LX, comm port | download to from GPS




I am *really* down to the wire and discovered a major obstacle!  Please
help if you can!

Recap: Can get palmtop to receive data from GPS unit only *sometimes*

Details:

I am using a HP 100LX.  I am not experienced with palmtops (other than a
few days and all of last night) .  (The HP 100LX runs DOS ver 5.00)  My
mission: download files from a Trimble GeoExplorer (Geo) to the palmtop.

Trimble provides a program, load.exe, which can be run from the DOS
prompt on a PC.  The customary arrangement is to connect the Geo to the
PC COMM port with a (Trimble) cable.  Thus, I connect the palmtop as
follows:
palmtop-HPCable-GenderChangerConnector-NullModemConnector-TrimbleCable-GPS.

Both units are running on AAs (palmtop:2, Geo:4)

Good News:  With load.exe on the palmtop, I can successfully establish
connection with Geo and read the file dir on the Geo and pull off tiny
(<1k) files.

Bad News:  When I try to download a file containing meaningful data
(multiple positions) (>1k, sometimes many k), the load.exe reports
"unable to load nnnnn from data logger" (the nnnnn represents the
filename).  The program then quits (whereas usually it grabs all files
from the Geo).

I have done some troubleshooting:
    files=, buffers= meet sftw specs
    made plenty of room on the c: drive and flash card (in case of temp
files)
    I ran load.exe from a: and c: and e:
    I replaced all AA batteries
    I tried various settings, increasing avail RAM to up to 411760
    I tried different baud settings (not sure if this really did
anything -- Filer/Menu/Comm was where I changed it; it's back to 9600
now)
    I tried 2 versions of load.exe
    I tried 2 different HP 100LXs
    All operations worked normally from a PC, for this Geo and set of
data
    I am sure there was more... (it was a long night)

Any clues?  I have someone at Trimble working on this but they
apparently are not familiar with using a palmtop rather than a PC.  I am
calling HP, too.  I "need" to be done with this in hours.  Any help
would be **greatly** appreciated; *Thanks*

-Noel

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:39:25 -0400
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              stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE
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If you hear a click short after power on, this indicates, that
a modem card has been detected and configured for IO. Indeed
CIC100 or a similar TSR has to run. The click comes from the
SocketService BIOS in ROM, no chance to switch it off. The
click is a PCMCIA recommendation and HP took it over. There
should be no click after power on, if a flash card is inserted
in the palmtop.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:50:06 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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--- begin of forwarded message ---


Avnet has 'em for the 200LX.  I just ordered one for $26 and change.  P/N
is F1011A.  The appropriate Avnet web page is www.avnetdirect.com.

Larry Mittell
larry@circle-seal.com
http://www.circle-seal.com
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From         Nick Marsh <nickwb4sqi@WWD.NET>
Subject      Wtd: 200LX AC adapter
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Thanks for all the replys regarding identification of my AC adapter. It
seems that I need one for my 200LX as the other one is for the 95LX.

If you have a spare 200LX adapter for sale please email me. Can't run a
modem from batteries....
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI



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That's because the 700LX uses the Nokia 2110 charger... In the 700lx box =
you get 2 NiCds, no charger. They expect you to have a Nokia GSM phone.

Franklin

-----Original Message-----
From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 9. juni 1998 16:29
Subject: Re: Identify my AC Adapter?


Tue,  9 Jun 1998 09:43:00 -0400 (EDT)

06h46m17s ago ...
On Tue,  9 Jun 1998, Reino Sorlie wrote:

> My HP700LX which is an 200LX says positive on the center. This is =
marked
> near the connector on the HP.
> --

Interesting about the 700LX.  Just to be absolutely sure, I looked
again at my 100LX, 200LX, both manuals, and the HP adapter.  Negative
center.  The 700 must use a different adapter...

-PR
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              Tobias Kraus <tkraus@AUGSBURG.BAYNET.DE>
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Hi,

here's something for the palmtop user who thinks he has already everything:

OAKFLAT NUCLEAR POWER PLANT v3.1sw by GAMTECH
Simulates a pressurized water, nuclear
fission power plant. User controls all major
plant operations to generate safe and cost
effective electrical power. The simulator will
create random events such as fires, equipment
failures, earthquakes, and even terrorist
attacks. Saves high score. ASP shareware.

The Simulator runs on the HP200LX, although it sometimes causes strange
behavior of the Appt-book. You can find the file at

<ftp://ftp.fh-coburg.de/pub/freeware/software/dos/spiele/diverses/of31sw.zip>

I don't believe it is useful enough to put it on the SUPER site :-)...

"What's that?" - "It's my palmtop." - "And what are you doing with it?" -
"I'm running a nuclear power plant!"

C U
        -Tobias-

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:42:10 -0500
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Don't forget to be sure to use version 5 or higher to be able to use it
past Dec. 31, 1999.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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My 2c ...

Some ISPs (mine included) offers international roaming type linking
through a system by iPASS.

However, on enquiry, your must have WIN95 operating system.


Brian Girling
Group Sales
Great Canadian Holidays Inc.
Our Web Site: http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures/
Email: great_canadian@iname.com

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Subject:      Re. MARCAN memory upgrade Kit.
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Hi Pablo -

I have just installed the MARCAN memory upgrade module on my 200lx
(serial SG4...) without any difficulty at all.

My particular unit took the module as a direct replacement to the board
already in the 200lx.  thus, I lost 1 MB of memory that I had giving me
a total of 5MB.


Brian Girling
Group Sales
Great Canadian Holidays Inc.
Our Web Site: http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures/
Email: great_canadian@iname.com
=========================
> Because I'll order one for my 200LX,
> anyone have had some compatibility problem with the Marcan memory upgrade?
>
>
> Pablo KIM
> from Argentina

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Not really HP related (except for trying to setup an HP related
mailing list), but I know there are some Unix-types here..

Anyone familiar with setting up majordomo?  I've got it working,
but when the aliases.majordomo file is listed in sendmail.cf
the SMTP server refuses to accept any mail, griping about a
hash map file and saying it can't find the aliases file (which
permissions say is readable)

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              jebuford@CCGATE.HAC.COM
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     I'm looking for one or several HP200lx's to use for parts.

     Please contact me off list.

     Joe Buford@mail.hac.com

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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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>
> My collection of zip archives is growing on my 200LX and I need 2
> utilities to help manage them. I currently use zr (ZipRay) and pkzip to
do
> most of the work, but I'd like:
>
> 1) Something more featured than ZipRay, that would allow me to delete
> (or move or rename) things in the archive(s).

What about XTree Gold? Version 3.0 had full internal pk204 compat, I have
it running with about 275k worth of files in the XTGOLD directory. You can
look into archives, read text/doc files, delete/move/rename and update
files.

HTH

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Al Kind (your mailing list moderator) asked me to post an occasional update on
the 'bidding wars' re. my HP200LX outfit, instead of you all clogging the
mailing list with your public postings....so...

The high bid to date is $400 for the outfit. You can see all the details, plus
high bid, at http://members.aol.com/bdipert. Please continue to keep your bids
in the form of private emails either to bdipert@aol.com or
edndipert@worldnet.att.net!

Bid activity has dropped off somewhat through the day, and unless I get a big
surge in response to this posting or the newsgroups I'll probably wrap things
up tomorrow or Wednesday evening. So if you're interested....don't delay!

Regards,
BD

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>Best offer. Let the bidding begin!
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I have a HP200LX for Sale!!!!  Mint condition...  2 meg model with PCMCIA Card that is a 14.4 modem with 8 meg s of memory on  the card...  I will take Best offer for unit!! Must be sold to some that I can send UPS or FED Ex package to them.  Let me know who is interested!!

----Original Message-----
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   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            Tuesday's update on HP200LX sale
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   >Date:       Tuesday, June 09, 1998 9:24 PM
   >
   >Al Kind (your mailing list moderator) asked me to post an occasional update on
   >the 'bidding wars' re. my HP200LX outfit, instead of you all clogging the
   >mailing list with your public postings....so...
   >
   >The high bid to date is $400 for the outfit. You can see all the details, plus
   >high bid, at http://members.aol.com/bdipert. Please continue to keep your bids
   >in the form of private emails either to bdipert@aol.com or
   >edndipert@worldnet.att.net!
   >
   >Bid activity has dropped off somewhat through the day, and unless I get a big
   >surge in response to this posting or the newsgroups I'll probably wrap things
   >up tomorrow or Wednesday evening. So if you're interested....don't delay!
   >
   >Regards,
   >BD
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:58:23 -0600
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Comments: To: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@world.northgrum.com>,
          "FIGLIO4CAP@aol.com" <FIGLIO4CAP@aol.com>,
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The crew just left, albeit 4 hours late but still "in time," with what appears
(again!) to be a fully functional setup (boy, has *my* view of the world
changed in this past day!!  :) ).  Early tomorrow they will be flown into the
Wilderness.

I am *so* grateful to those of you who took the time to help.  It turns out
that while I was on hold with Trimble for the nth time, the ... (I am fighting
the urge to say "apparent"...) solution arrived in my email.  This is such a
great group!  (I still must thank others on -l and usenet for earlier help,
however I just could not end today without *thanking* those who gave it the
happy ÝI think¨ ending.)   With Musac in my ear and instructions on my PC
display I bailed the palmtop from the SysMgr (I did not even think about this
type of possibility!) and initiated another Geo-to-palmtop trial... and voila,
it actually *worked*!!  What a sight for sore (literally) eyes!!

Now one of the 2 palmtops won't talk to my PC--Ha!--but thank goodness I will
not even be able to troubleshoot this until crew returns eom.  I geared them
up with .exe and .bat files on the flash mem and we got everything tested then
everyone up to speed and out the door.

Thanks *so* much for helping!

-Noel


> On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Noel Weaver wrote:
>
> > I am *really* down to the wire and discovered a major obstacle!  Please
> > help if you can!
> >
> > Recap: Can get palmtop to receive data from GPS unit only *sometimes*

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Subject:      wordperfect 5.1
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I tried to install wp5.1 on my 200lx.  I got an insufficient memory =
error.  I thought 5.1 would run on the palmtop.  Any suggestions as to =
what I am doing wrong.

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Alex Ba

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Regards to all...

A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
(including dealers and HP itself!..)
until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what the
connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?

Please help

.......I'll get it printing if it is the last thing I'll do........

Cheers

Alex Baker

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:36:29 +1000
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Marcan have just responed to my query... a fantastic
service I might add... they recommend the GA 945

Will this work?

Regards

Alex

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At 11:17 AM 6/9/98 -0400, James Scheffler wrote:
>Anyone know of an infrared serial link to the desktop?  i.e. something that
>works pretty much like having the serial cable hooked in, but in fact
>you're just using the IR link?
>

Pumatech sells a IR link product by the name of "litelink". Its claimed to
be compatible with 200lx, WINCE and most notebooks. In Singapore it sells
for S$49.90, available from Computown within Best Connection stores.

jien hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg

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At 02:47 PM 6/9/98 -0500, Nestor A. Ramirez wrote:
>I use a wireless 3Com modem card in my 200 LX, and when I turn on the
>palmtop, I get TWO clicks, both of them coming (I think) from the modem.  I
>also don't  (or don't either ?) get any clicks when inserting my 40 MB
>Pretec Flash ATA card. By the way, the wireless modem  works great for
>getting my Email while I'm on the road, as long as I am within the "lower
>48".
>

May I know what softwares run with your 3Com wireless modem ? Can Datacomm,
WWWLX or GP runs with it ?

Thanks

jien hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:32:29 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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How do I "replicate" email and calendar In Lotus Notes with my hp200lx.
Have looked around, but only found WinCE support for that and not for
hp200lx.

This is a product that I am waiting for.


  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

                    64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

                    10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
                    20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
                    30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Why they not create new 200LX model? I mean
DOS and WinCE both compatible in one machine. :(
I like windows, but more like DOS on my palm.
If they release new DOS fast machine now.
I'm sure to buy it for upgrade my old 200LX.

P.S.
Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
for swapping program.

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Me also...

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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Joe Buford wrote:

>      I'm looking for one or several HP200lx's to use for parts.
>
>      Please contact me off list.
>
>      Joe Buford@mail.hac.com
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Hi I wonder if anyone can help,

I currently have a 700lx (Omnigo) with 2Mb memory.Im considering buying the
Marcan 4Mb upgrade, but also have the chance of a 16Mb flash card.

Which should I buy?.Is there any advantage to having the Marcan upgrade other
than keeping the PC Card slot free?.

Do both types of memory perform the same function?.

Many thanks Darren

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Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:25:05 +1200 (NZT)

04h48m36s ago ...
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:36:29 +1000, Alex Baker wrote:

> Marcan have just responed to my query... a fantastic
> service I might add... they recommend the GA 945
>
> Will this work?

Yup the GA945 is a cable with the converter attached. Very popular with
folk printing to parallel printers. Should work! (works with my old
Canaon BJ-10e)

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:15:54 -0500
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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:14:32 +0200, Jez Cunningham articulated...

>FWIW, Lexmark was the brand that IBM used when setting up a new (internal)
>division to sell consumer PC products (nowadays printers etc).

Hmm, doesn't make sense to me, really...  Lexmark, International, is Lexicon
Marking, the marking of words.  Printers.  Perhaps originally they were more
broad, but all Lexmark, Int. does is printers.

And I *believe* that Lexmark, Int. was a spinoff, purchased by the employees
of IBM to create a new company, still attached to IBM in ways, but a separate
corporate entity.

I should know I guess.... I work there.  But I won't swear to the above..  :)

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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:40:14 -0700, Longden C. Loo articulated...

>My collection of zip archives is growing on my 200LX and I need 2
>utilities to help manage them. I currently use zr (ZipRay) and pkzip to do
>most of the work, but I'd like:

>1) Something more featured than ZipRay, that would allow me to delete
>(or move or rename) things in the archive(s).

Have you tried Stereo Shell, on the SUPER page?  I use it to manage my
compressed stuff, and it works well..  (Once you get the colours right, that
is.. :)

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Hi,
I've had no problems using WP 5.1 using Maxdos or in a Software Carousel
work area. If you don't have eithor of these options terminating the system
manager works. Don't forget the mono switch.

enjoy

paul

 >I tried to install wp5.1 on my 200lx. I got an insufficient memory =
 >error. I thought 5.1 would run on the palmtop. Any suggestions as to =
 >what I am doing wrong.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:16:48 +0200
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And price is... ?

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
 Alexander Stanovoy <Aleksandr.Stanovoj@telia.lt>
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 Phone: +370-2-730964; FAX:+370-2-730959; Mobile:+370-99-14421
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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, John Doyle wrote:

> I have a HP200LX for Sale!!!!  Mint condition...  2 meg model with PCMCIA Card that is a 14.4 modem with 8 meg s of memory on  the card...  I will take Best offer for unit!! Must be sold to some that I can send UPS or FED Ex package to them.  Let me know who is interested!!
>
> ----Original Message-----
>    >From:       Brian Dipert <BDipert@AOL.COM>
>    >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>    >Subject:            Tuesday's update on HP200LX sale
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>    >Date:       Tuesday, June 09, 1998 9:24 PM
>    >
>    >Al Kind (your mailing list moderator) asked me to post an occasional update on
>    >the 'bidding wars' re. my HP200LX outfit, instead of you all clogging the
>    >mailing list with your public postings....so...
>    >
>    >The high bid to date is $400 for the outfit. You can see all the details, plus
>    >high bid, at http://members.aol.com/bdipert. Please continue to keep your bids
>    >in the form of private emails either to bdipert@aol.com or
>    >edndipert@worldnet.att.net!
>    >
>    >Bid activity has dropped off somewhat through the day, and unless I get a big
>    >surge in response to this posting or the newsgroups I'll probably wrap things
>    >up tomorrow or Wednesday evening. So if you're interested....don't delay!
>    >
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>    >BD
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I also only have an occasional need for a task switcher. So I use Dosshell
which is free. There's no doubt it is slower than Software Carousel, but for
my needs it is sufficient. To switch between an Application Manager session
& a a large Dos program takes around 10 seconds on an uncompressed flash
card (compression makes a big difference timewise). I keep around 1.2 mb
free on my flash card to provide enough space to swap applications. This
enables me to have at least three applications running.

There are some articles in some older Palmtop Papers that give instructions
on setting up Dosshell on a palmtop. There was also a message to this list a
few months ago that provided a link to a web page that also gave excellent
guidance. A search of the list archive for Dosshell should provide you with
the link. HTH

Steven English
Homepage: http://www.axs.com.au/~senglish

   >Several of you have mentioned a task-swapper app called Switch-it
   >that you apparently use like Software Carousel.
   >Who makes (or made) it, and is it even available anywhere?
   >I'd like something like SC, but simple (and cheap) for those
   >once-in-a-bluemoon times that I need to toggle between two DOS apps
   >at the same time (not often enough to make SC install/purchase
   >worthwhile).

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:22:50 -0700
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              Delos and Judi Dunn <delos@PE.NET>
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1)HP200LX W/ 1MEG RAM, VERY GOOD CONDITION,
2)STILL HAS 1 MONTH FULL REPLACEMENT WARRANTY FROM HP.
3)EXP THINFAX 1414LXM PCMCIA 14.4 MODEM W/ FAX, FAX SOFTWARE ON CARD AND 4MB
FLASH MEMORY
WORKS GREAT AND IS EASY ON BATTERIES, BEST TO USE A/C ADAPTER FOR MODEM USE.
4)SUN DISK PCMCIA ATA 10 MEG (UNCOMPRESSED) FLASHDISK, WITH STACKER.
5)HP CONNECTIVITY KIT WITH CABLE AND ADAPTERS.
6)INTELLILINK SYNCHRONIZATION SOFTWARE. REGISTERED
7)HP A/C ADAPTER/CHARGER
8) 4 HI-CAPACITY RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES
9)ALL MANUALS
10)LOTS OF SOFTWARE (FREEWARE/SHAREWARE)
11)BEST TIPS OF HP PALMTOP PAPERS
12)FREE SHIPPING

The HP has served me well! I am not desperate just looking for a fair price.
I will consider excluding a pcmcia card, if that makes it more affordable
for someone, or selling cards separate.

You can E-mail me off the list at delos@pe.net

Thank You

Delos

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:01:28 +0000
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Greetings to the Mailing List,

On Wednesday, 10 June 1998 Alex Baker wrote:-

< A few weeks ago I asked if anybody new how to print to this parallel
< printer.....I still can't do it!  Nobody seemed to know how to over
< here in Australia (including dealers and HP itself!..)

< Snip >

Sorry I did not see your first message, Alex.

You have my sympathy as I have had exactly the same experience.  At
one time I felt that I was the only user in this part of the world, a
theme echoed many times.  However, the solution is easy and there are
other users in this part of the world to offer help with similar
problems.  A simple serial-to-parallel converter is available but to
save the airwaves I shall continue the details in a personal e-mail.

BTW, of late there have been several messages posted from users in
Australia and New Zealand.  If any of you are feeling alone (or upside
down!), you can always contact me to hear about our own OZ 'n' NZ
users' group.  Few people realise that HP designed the first Palmtop
to just fit into a kangaroo's  pouch -- they wanted to be one jump
ahead of their competitors -- and in fact, it was going to be called a
"Pouchtop"!

'Nuff said.

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Several people have mentioned using lithium batteries.  Aren't they 3-4 volts
instead of the 1.5 volts of alkalines?  Does the HP 100 lx charge these
bateries?

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:14:32 +0800
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> Pumatech sells a IR link product by the name of "litelink". Its claimed =
to
> be compatible with 200lx, WINCE and most notebooks. In Singapore it =
sells
> for S$49.90, available from Computown within Best Connection stores.
>
> jien hung
> jhchin@pacific.net.sg

Warning!

I bought this LiteLink some time ago and I could never get it to work!
Simply because of the fact that the unit is set to a fixed speed of 115K
while Transfile can maximum go to 56K. I don't know of any other program,
so I would highly appreciate any info.

Thanks,

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:36:57 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Printing from 200LX to Canon BJ 200
Comments: cc: abaker@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

   >A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
   >this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
   >Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
   >(including dealers and HP itself!..)
   >until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
   >serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what the
   >connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
   >I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
   >If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?
Message-Id: <19980610040611.GZUC1161@Ý12.64.8.157¨>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:06:11 +0000

Alex,

A serial to parallel convertor should indeed be the solution. Several
types exist and I believe some get their power from self-contained
batteries while others may draw from the parallel port.

I have an Extended Systems infra-red parallel port that I inherited from
someone else and use the LX's IR to print. The Extended Systems unit
daisy chains between the printer's port and the parallel cable and the
overall arrangement is, I believe, mostly as with the more standard serial
to parallel boxes. The place my IR unit came from is no longer in business
so I'm not sure where you can get them, but I'd think ser-par boxes should
be easier to find.

I don't use the Conn Pack, so I can't comment on it.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:30:38 -0400
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YES!! Get the JetEye 9610 from Extended Systems (part # ESI-9610A).
Just bought 2 of them for $25 each, plugged one in to my PC, pointed it at
the 200LX's ir port and was communicating at 115K!

Steve

At 11:17 AM 6/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone know of an infrared serial link to the desktop?  i.e. something that
>works pretty much like having the serial cable hooked in, but in fact
>you're just using the IR link?
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:35:09 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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At 10:41 AM 6/9/98 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>Tue,  9 Jun 1998 09:43:00 -0400 (EDT)
>
>06h46m17s ago ...
>On Tue,  9 Jun 1998, Reino Sorlie wrote:
>
>> My HP700LX which is an 200LX says positive on the center. This is marked
>> near the connector on the HP.
>> --
>
>Interesting about the 700LX.  Just to be absolutely sure, I looked
>again at my 100LX, 200LX, both manuals, and the HP adapter.  Negative
>center.  The 700 must use a different adapter...
>
>-PR
>------------

Yes, I can confirmed that my 700LX has positive connection at the center. It
used the smaller pin AC adapter from Nokia phone for charging. The usual
200lx AC adapter won't work.

jien hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:47:02 -0500
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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:00:07 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:31:45 +0200
>From:    xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>

>an OS/2 version of the Connectivity Pack. Unfortunately, this link
>(http://hpcvbbs.external.hp.com:80/palmtops/200/appnote/os2.html) is not
>longer valid.
>
>Does anyone know if there is a connectivity pack for OS/2?

To my knowledge there never was an OS/2 native version of "CPACK"
althought with some tweaking it was said to run fine under WINOS2.
Personally I have found that Transfile Win 200 is a bit flaky under Warp
4 but I have not bothered to tweak the settings much. ACE Technologies'
"ACELink" works great in a DOS box but ACE is out of business now. I
would suggest searching usenet archives on AltaVista and DejaNews. Note I
do not own CPACK myself.

For file transfer you might also look into other DOS options ("ZIP"?) or
it should be easy to port the UNIX "LXTOOLS" to OS/2 with the EMX kit. Or
just use Ignacio Perez's DOS versions of LXTOOLS.

-Peter

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> What the heck is a Sony MagicLink?
> -
> **********************************************************************
>      mark beutler                           mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
> **********************************************************************

It was a rather large PDA based on General Magic's Magic Cap OS.
Basically a cute picture based system. The first "window" showed a
picture of a desktop with a roledex, a phone and other desk type
items. Clicking on different items brought up their functions.
Motorola also made a version of the MagicLink called the Envoy, a
nearly identical pda running the newton OS ws called Marco.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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     My 200 was stolen yesterday, so I'm looking for an HP200LX new or used
     in vg condition.  Is there anyone still selling new ones?  Would
     consider an excellent used one from a list regular.  Also, would
     someone please send me the url for Marcam?

     Thanks in advance,

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My first idea is you are trying to run it through System Manager (or Filer).
I've only gotten WP5.1 to run when I end all programs and exit to a DOS
prompt (from the more apps screen, go MENU, Applications, Terminate All).
There may be a way to get it running through System Manager, but I like DOS
better.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
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    Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 10:11 PM
    Subject: wordperfect 5.1


    I tried to install wp5.1 on my 200lx.  I got an insufficient memory
error.  I thought 5.1 would run on the palmtop.  Any suggestions as to what
I am doing wrong.

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Hello group,

I have 100LX 1MB not memory upgradable, so I'm looking for 200LX with
broken screen to replace my 100LX screen to 200LX with broken...
If anybody has one please sell me. I can pay by VISA card.
Thanks All.

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
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Earl, The clicks may come from a modem tweaking the speaker.

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> What is the download file name of WWW?

www.dasoft.com, then follow the link to "New WWW/LX Plus",
there is a link to "Download" topic and there you'll find
WWWLX.ZIP d/l link. Suggest that you give that page a read,
lots of info on it. Enjoy.

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Russ,

> *Global* ISPs?  Try IBM.

Also CIS (largest network in the world by far!), and AT&T to
some degree. Also GRIC is an organisation that recruits local
ISPs in many places in the world so you can login locally,
using the local ISP, but your normal home id. I just found
out about it a short while ago - www.gric.com.

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> Do either of these packages, GP or WWW/LX (Pro) connect to an NT RAS =
server?

With WWW/LX Plus: Several customers reported yes. I don't know
personally!

> Right now that's my largest concern. Second is what features the =
package
> has, as long as it supports e-mail. Web browsing would be nice, I think =
 :)

WWW/LX Plus supports email, web browsing, and newsgroups. In
another post to Pablo I posted on storage requirements for
email side only.

For Web browsing you need to add the HV client programs and
files. We also have as freeware the FTP/LX and TELNET/LX
clients, ROBOT/LX client that allows automation of internet
sessions, and also GET which allows unattended web page
collection (i.e. you give it a list of URLs, and let an
appointment fire up WWW/LX Plus with GET to go fetch the
stuff, and put it on the machine. It is ready for you in the
morning. I like to call it D&A's "Pull Technology" vs the
commercials-laden "Push Technology.)

We also have several other expellent addons and utilities.

See http://www.dasoft.com, link to "NEW WWW/LX Plus". In the
link called description there is a mind-numbing list of all
the features that were in the released products. Unfortunately
it is incomplete, we added a few more along the way since
Aptil 6 :), and in version 2.1 we have a few more coming.

You can download the entire program from the Web page. It will
run in Demo mode (some people call it it crippleware, I hate
that term!) but you can test it to your heart's content.

The email client has a built-in registration process, complete
with ENCRYPTION of your credit card number for safe passage on
the internet as email. 2 people know how to decode it
(Andreas, the author, and I).

Sheesh - I just went for it and wrote it all! If you have
questions (which I doubt after this long post :) ...) let me
know.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> You can still use CIS via the DOS-CIM program. I use it every day from
> my desktop computer. However, some forums are 100% web-based and these
> cannot be accessed without a web-browser (DOS-Lynx?). You can access =
FTP
> and telnet via DOS-CIM.

DOSCIM is good, but a hog on the palmtop - both memory and
lots of resources. Must run it AFTER closing SysMgr.

> There is also a special program called something like accCIS made for
> the LX. I don't know much about it.

Current version of acCIS is 4.0. Available from Shier Systems
1 888 371 9391. Shier has a Web page at http://www.shier.com.

It is a great program.

> CIS supports cc:mail so you may be able to use the built-in program. I
> have not tried it myself.

CIS supports cc:Mail, but the cc:Mail in the palmtop requires
scripting to login, which is unsupported by CIS, so nogo on
that.

ESP has a service for CC:MAIL and specifics for palmtops.
Don't know URL, but search ESP and cc:Mail.

> While we are at CIS: I have seen some critisism of CIS on this list.
> I would therefore like to add that I have used CIS for years here in =
the
> UK and been more than happy with the service.

I was one of the criticisers, yet I have been using them for
years. I am mostly happy, except:

(1) On occasions their service is flaky - such as bad modems
at nodes, or incredibly slow, or weird phenomena online and
during login. These are all transient but can last in extreme
cases for a day.

(2) They have the most idiotic Tech Support. These people know
near nothing. I am always dismayed when I call. It as if they
seek out the least knoelwedgeable people, and then teach them
to be illogical, uncooperative and just unhelpful. They have a
second line tech support as well, but these people are hidden
behind an almost unpenetrable wall.

(3) Their feedback for email help NEVER read your email, they
just send you back instructions on how to install the current
WinCIM, even if you ask about the content of a forum, or how
to block spammers, or whatever. There is an address CIS:MGMT
(usable from inside CIS, don't know how to use it from
internet) where they have some management trainees who
actually know how to read, and they actually read. Some of
their answers even make sense and are on occasions helpful.

My experience with feedback (I call them feedbag) is 100%
UNusefulness.

What I like about CIS:

(1) When their PPP gateway works (say 99.5%) it is fast,
reliable and without errors.

(2) They provide a very cost effective service at $9.95 per
month (incl. 5 hours of access, $2.95 per hour for additional
time, measured in 10 second intervals). I exceed it almost
each month but only by a little, and my usual monthly is about
$11.00.

(3) They have more nodes than any other service, both in the
US and internationally. Second to them is IBMNet with about
half as many nodes.

(4) Their billing is automated and has been perfected over
many many years, so it is very accurate.

(5) You can send a fax through them. If the addressee is a fax
number they'll call that number and send the message to that
fax. Text only, and the call is billed as a call from Columbus
Ohio, US.

(6) The best asset for palmtoppers is HPHAND forum in CIS.
More "tribal knowledge" there than anywhere else. This forum
comes in second place. Either one is by far better than
newsgroups for palmtops, at least for 200LX information.

General notes:

1. If you open an account, you automatically get into
"Newmail", which uses their proprietary protocol called HMI
(Host Micro Interface, whatever that means). This is NOT
ASCII, so you cannot read your email using DATACOMM, for
example.

You can convert to OLDMAIL by using "Go NPX-32" and use the
menu.

NEWMAIL allows you a "personalised" email name, such as
"AviMeshar" instead of the numeric address they use (i.e.
123456,789). You can send email from Internet to such an
address as: AviMeshar@compuserve.com or
123456.789@compuserve.com (note the comma becomes a period.

2. They have a totally separate email system on their Internet
side, i.e. SMTP/POP3. There are instructions on how to use
this with WWW/LX on our Web page in a FAQ are. This a plain
ol' internet emailbox. The address would be something like
AviMeshar@csi.com (note the different domain name.)

The two email systems are unrelated, although you can redirect
email from the compuserve.com to the csi.com mailbox.

3. You cannot access most forums and libraries from the
Internet. However, they have a few forums now that are
Web-based only.

Good luck.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Pablo:

> I don=B4t know if Going postal is better.
> But Going Postal does save me a precious PCMCIA slot for modem and it =
can
> be run on a 1mb HPLX.

FYI: Allow me to burst a little myth floating around here!

To get and send email with WWW/LX Plus (by my company, D&A
Software, Inc.), you need the following:

 post.exe  76500  approx. (I use a not-yet public version)
 post.cfg   5000  probably a lot less!
 www.exe   35282
 www.cfg    3000  may be trimmed
 mail.tpl     75  template for email
 post.adr      ?  each line contains an email address, how
                  many you have and how large, is variable

You also need wwwsetup.exe (35455) to configure WWW.CFG, and
setup.exe (36592) to configure post.cfg, but those are not
required when you run the program, only to configure.

The total, w/out setup pgms: 119857 - roughly 120K. Your email
files and all that are acocunted for, since it really depends
on you.

The 1MB machines have 352K on C: drive at most. WWW/LX Plus
for email only would fit nicely, heh? :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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I ran wp5.1 for quite a while on my 200lx.  The approach I took was to install
the program on my desk-top, and then copy the files to my palmtop.  If you have
a standard 1 or 2 meg unit, you will need a flash card, since the minimum
instillation is around 1 meg.  You will need the following files:


wp.exe      233,472
wp.fil      649,175
keys.mrs      4,800
wp.mrs        6,072
standard.irs  4,905
standard.prs  1,942
standard.vrs 30,482
wp.qrs       17,034
wp51.ins      2,307
wp{wp}us.lcn     16
wp{wp}.set    5,551
 -------------------
TOTAL       955,756



Lynn

I tried to install wp5.1 on my 200lx.  I got an insufficient memory
error.  I thought 5.1 would run on the palmtop.  Any suggestions as to
what I am doing wrong.

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Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:11:22 -0400 (EDT)

08h48m56s ago ...
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> Several people have mentioned using lithium batteries.  Aren't they 3-4 =
volts
> instead of the 1.5 volts of alkalines?  Does the HP 100 lx charge these
> bateries?

No... and No!  The Eveready (Energizer) AA lithium cells are marked
1.5V.  Fresh out of the package, I measured 1.7V per cell.  (Most
lithium cells are indeed 3V.)  They are ABSOLUTELY NOT rechargeable
(unless you want to turn your LX into a small bomb!)

They give VERY long life in the palmtop, but voltage drops extremely
rapidly at the end of their life.

-PR
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There was some talk awile back about pcmcia vga cards. I don't remember what
happened, but this is cut out of the Compaq Aero faq (just got one 4/33C for
USD 70, I am very happy now!)

Anybody tried this?

Have a nice day!

Franklin

--------from Compaq Aero faq--------

Subject: 2.2.3 External Monitor

ÝC¨ A PCMCIA adapter (EZPresenter) enable you to have a Simultaneous VGA

Output(in 16 colors or in 256 colors) without VGA adaptor and it makes
possible to play CD-Titles in 256 colors 640x480 on Aero Mono in Windows 3.1
and Win 95. For the low, low price of $315 get in touch with:

EZShow Systems Inc.
7688 Aubrey St., Burnaby, BC V5A 1K7 Canada
Phone: (604)299-2033, Fax: (604)299-5118
E-mail: Mike Lee <mike@ezshow.com>

ÝC¨ I have used the Aero with the VGA adapter and the VGA-TV Elite adapter
from ADS to show my Aero screen on a large tv. It works pretty good and is a
very mobile package.

ÝC¨ From: donson@sprynet.com

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:08:36 -0800
Subject: Voyager VGA

Has anyone got information about how the following PCMCIA Card works with
the Aero?

Voyager VGA, manufactured by Colorgraphics.
It's supposed to give you 1024x768x16 or 640x480x256 resolution on an
external monitor.

This might be a way to overcome the "most serious limitation" of the Aero.

Their web page is: http://www.colorgfx.com:80/voyager.html

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How do I contact?   Win95?   DOS?
ISA card?

Steve Meisner wrote:

> YES!! Get the JetEye 9610 from Extended Systems (part # ESI-9610A).
> Just bought 2 of them for $25 each, plugged one in to my PC, pointed it at
> the 200LX's ir port and was communicating at 115K!
>
> Steve
>
> At 11:17 AM 6/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Anyone know of an infrared serial link to the desktop?  i.e. something that
> >works pretty much like having the serial cable hooked in, but in fact
> >you're just using the IR link?
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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:46:49 -0400
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Also remember to sent the amount of DOS memory using the Setup Options
System Advanced DOS (50-512K).

Setting this number too low will make the application not start, while
setting it too high will make the sysmanager not see enough free memory
to start the app.

I found this out setting up DOS Quicken 4 to run on my hp100lx 1mb.  I
use 350K.  I also use MaxDos to swap out ram before I run Quicken.

Hope this is germane.
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Regards to all...

A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
(including dealers and HP itself!..)
until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what
the
connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?

Please help

........I'll get it printing if it is the last thing I'll
do........

Cheers

Alex Baker

______________________________________________________
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Alex

The connectivity pack does not have a serial to parallel
converter in it. You need to contact someone like Shier
Systems (www.shier.com) and buy one. Or you could get a ir
adapter for your printer and use the LX ir port to print.
That is what I do with my deskjet 340. Good luck.

John

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Brian,

> Several people have mentioned using lithium batteries.  Aren't they 3-4 =
volts
> instead of the 1.5 volts of alkalines?  Does the HP 100 lx charge these
> bateries?

You confuse "lithium" with "lithium ion". The former are AA
size and 1.5v, the latter are 3.7v or something like this.

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Dear Brian,

> My 2c ...
>
> Some ISPs (mine included) offers international roaming type linking
> through a system by iPASS.
>
> However, on enquiry, your must have WIN95 operating system.

Unless they use a specific login package, which only runs on
W95, internet is OBLIVIOUS to the operating system used by the
connecting node. If they want to use CHAP, then FYI, it is a
public login protocol that predates W95! Of course, Microshaft
adopted it, and "invented" it in W95 :) the usual stuff...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:56:25 -0700
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> "What's that?" - "It's my palmtop." - "And what are you doing with it?" =
-
> "I'm running a nuclear power plant!"

Tobias, kidding aside, first thanks for the ref to this
game...

I know of three nuclear plants that issue 200LX to ALL the
operators. They have some real programs running there that
would control certain operations of the plants.

There are also several other very critical apps running in
palmtops, such as anestesia stuff.

I ran a tiny bulletin board on a 1MB 100LX after a devastating
earthquake in Los Angeles in 1994. Supporder only two lines,
but provided the only "lifeline" to the outside world to
several individuals who were stuck at home. The main bulletin
board was destroyed (8 486s and over 50GB of disk.)

We got a designation of "Official Lifeline Support" which is
usually given to people like doctors, firefighters, nurses,
electrical workes etc. That was an interesting outcome from
the Northridge EQ of January 1994.

The modems were some old Practical Peripherals 14,400 and they
were the sixe of a 2 inch binder, a bit sohrter. We velcroed
the 100 to one of them, funny to see the computer stuck on its
modem :) ...

We have an awsome little machine.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:49:35 -0400
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:
: ÝC¨ A PCMCIA adapter (EZPresenter) enable you to have a Simultaneous VGA
:
: Output(in 16 colors or in 256 colors) without VGA adaptor and it makes
: possible to play CD-Titles in 256 colors 640x480 on Aero Mono in Windows
3.1
: and Win 95. For the low, low price of $315 get in touch with:
:

The price is now $249 and it can do 640x480 and 800x600. There is also a
new model ez2tv, that can output PAL and NTSC as well as VGA. Its priced at
$299 (I think). Drivers are available for Newton, WinCE, Win95, Win3.x.
Sample code is also available on request for those who have special needs.

: EZShow Systems Inc.
: 7688 Aubrey St., Burnaby, BC V5A 1K7 Canada
: Phone: (604)299-2033, Fax: (604)299-5118
: E-mail: Mike Lee <mike@ezshow.com>
:
There have been a couple of aborted attempts at developing a driver for the
HP200, but nothing substantial has occured as of yet.

I am the developer of the card and was employed there, but no longer. I
don't know what their future plans might be.

rick

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:38:16 EDT
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Mark;  Sorry to hear you had your LX stolen.
I understand how you feel.  Hope you
didn't have any private data unprotected.

I lost mine last year with a flashcard.
Aside from its monetary loss, I was on a
trip with about two weeks of work data on it.

The morrow of the story and to improve the chances
of its return is: Back up  the data when finished,
and take out the flash to cut your losses and have
your work, especially when on a trip.  Have ID and
contact info on the outside of LX.  Put the BOOT
drivers on flash (especially with the 32MB which
minmizes  usefullness to the invalid owner). without
the drivers and SWAP, the 32 looks pretty useless.
You may be lucky as the reward would be the best
alternative for the perp....and if you're a big shoulder

yor pal al.............................

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:33:39 -0700
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Reino Sorlie wrote:
> >How can you tell the polarity of the center
> >pole of an adapter?
>
> My HP700LX which is an 200LX says positive on the center. This is marked
> near the connector on the HP.
> --
>

My 700lx says center is positive too.

jien hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:11:33 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> Unless they use a specific login package, which only runs on
> W95, internet is OBLIVIOUS to the operating system used by the
> connecting node.

Yes, many newer ISP's say "only works with Win95" so they don't have
to spend support time on other configurations.  They just throw together
a Win95 "one-size-fits-all" install package.  Many support people don't
have any idea what it really does (it really does all those things that
you need to do by hand to work with DOS and such)

> If they want to use CHAP, then FYI, it is a
> public login protocol that predates W95! Of course, Microshaft
> adopted it, and "invented" it in W95 :) the usual stuff...

Well, not quite.  In typical Microsoft arrogance, they took standard
CHAP, modified it for "better security" (uh-huh) and called it "MS CHAP"
It has it's own protocol number in PPP, different from standard CHAP.

I like a number of the things Microsoft has done (Win95, Word) but when
it comes to RFC standards, they seem to bastardize everything they
touch.

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Dear Mark,
I have one that was brand new a couple of weeks ago. I bought it on Ebay for
$350. for use in my airplane. As it turned out, it is not compatible with my
GPS receiver so I would like to sell it. If you are interested, please contact
me with your offer.
Best regards,
Bob Figlio

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> > If they want to use CHAP, then FYI, it is a
> > public login protocol that predates W95! Of course, Microshaft
> > adopted it, and "invented" it in W95 :) the usual stuff...
>
> Well, not quite.  In typical Microsoft arrogance, they took standard
> CHAP, modified it for "better security" (uh-huh) and called it "MS =
CHAP"
> It has it's own protocol number in PPP, different from standard CHAP.

Except that standard CHAP works just fine with the SERVERS...
What matters is the server program, and that has not changed
AFAIK.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:11:40 -0700
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> > > If they want to use CHAP, then FYI, it is a
> > > public login protocol that predates W95! Of course, Microshaft
> > > adopted it, and "invented" it in W95 :) the usual stuff...
> >
> > Well, not quite.  In typical Microsoft arrogance, they took standard
> > CHAP, modified it for "better security" (uh-huh) and called it "MS CHAP"
> > It has it's own protocol number in PPP, different from standard CHAP.
>
> Except that standard CHAP works just fine with the SERVERS...
> What matters is the server program, and that has not changed
> AFAIK.

Ah, it's nice they decided to also allow standard PAP/CHAP (wonder
which is really being used when MS CHAP isn't supported by the client?)
over RAS.

You can bet that they'll correct this 'oversight' in a future
release.. For 'security' reasons, of course.. <g>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:34:36 -0400
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Earl T. Benson wrote:
>How do I go about getting an account with Compuserve that will run on my=

>HP200lx?
>
>When I bring up Compuserve's web page, the only connection software they=

>offer is for Windows 95 and NT (and MAC).
>
>They used to have a text only, bulletin board type interface.  Not any
>more?

You need to open a normal account with them using one of their CDs to
install into Windows. Once you have access to the Compuserve forums
you can log onto a forum that supports their DOS software and download
a copy and install on your palmtop - it is quite greedy, taking around
1.3MB

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:46:25 -0500
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I bought my first 512k 95lx a few months after they became available.  I
don't remember the year but it's been a while.  I later bought a 1 meg 95lx
and then a 100lx and then a 1meg 200lx and finally a 2 meg 200lx, which I
still use.

I still have all of these machines except the original 95lx.  My nephew
is using that.  He's a high school student.  I don't think he uses it a
lot though.  He does play a few games on it.

I've had 2 problems in all these years with palmtops.  The first 95lx
had the well known false battery low indication.  It developed long after
it was out of warranty, but HP still fixed it free.

I just recently lost a row of pixels on my 1 meg 95lx.  Actually I have
2 of them, having gotten a good deal on a used one for a backup.  And that's
the one with the problem.  But I've had it for years and I guess I can't
complain.

I still use the 95lx.  Not for anything serious but I play around with asm
programming on it from time to time.  All in all, it's a more elegant design
than the 100/200's, although I wouldn't give up the features of the new ones.

Barry

On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Steven English wrote:

> With Jorgen saying his palmtop was 3 years old & he was shooting for 30,
> I began wondering who would be using the oldest palmtop on the list. I
> guess it would have to be a 95LX. It might also be interesting hearing a
> few "longevity tips" from those who have been happily using their
> palmtops for years.
>
> Steven English
> Homepage: http://www.axs.com.au/~senglish
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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:03:44 -0500
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              "Thomas E. Standley" <tstandley@HALNET.COM>
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This is neat but I couldn't find this part number with a quick look at
Extended Systems web site.  They mention a 9680A at a higher price.

Any idea where one could get these at that price??

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Steve Meisner

> YES!! Get the JetEye 9610 from Extended Systems (part # ESI-9610A).
> Just bought 2 of them for $25 each, plugged one in to my PC, pointed it at
> the 200LX's ir port and was communicating at 115K!

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Date:         Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:55:00 -0700
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              "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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As far as I know you cannot upgrade the RAM in the 700lx.  The only upgrade
you can do is the double speed.

So your only bet would be the flash card.

-Tim
pacific@castles.com
http://members.castles.com/pacific

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 4:52 AM
Subject: Memory upgrade or flash card?


>Hi I wonder if anyone can help,
>
>I currently have a 700lx (Omnigo) with 2Mb memory.Im considering buying the
>Marcan 4Mb upgrade, but also have the chance of a 16Mb flash card.
>
>Which should I buy?.Is there any advantage to having the Marcan upgrade
other
>than keeping the PC Card slot free?.
>
>Do both types of memory perform the same function?.
>
>Many thanks Darren
>
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Earl T. Benson wrote:

> How do I go about getting an account with Compuserve that will run on my
> HP200lx?
>
> When I bring up Compuserve's web page, the only connection software they
> offer is for Windows 95 and NT (and MAC).
>
> They used to have a text only, bulletin board type interface.  Not any
> more?

The last I heard (which may not be the latest news), Compuserve still
provided an ASCII interface to some forums.  In fact I know they still
do to the Model 100 forum because I've seen them discussing the fact
that some of them still use their model 100 to access it.

It might need a different phone number.  You might contact them to find out.

The bad news is that they have announced that the ASCII interface is being
phased out entirely and I don't know how much longer it has left.  Theyve
been phasing it out for a while so I wouldnt think there was that much left.

Barry

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> There WERE much older palmtops, they just weren't DOS based machines.
> Of course several of those above aren't DOS based either. I also have
> most of the early palmtops made by sharp and casio, many of which
> were sold in the early days by radio shach under their tandy name,
> anyone remember the Pocket Computers? I even have one that has a dock
> that attaches with a 4 color printer (pen plotter type).

I had a Radio Shack PC3 pocket computer.  It had a fairly weird but
useful subset of Basic and was a really nice little machine.  I wrote
a number of programs to help me use it as a calculator, which was it's
real use to me.

The batteries lasted 3 years and then died.  The computer didn't work
when I put new batteries in it and that was the end.  I missed it badly
till I got an HP48.  I don't miss it now.  :)

Barry

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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, M. C. Beutler wrote:

> # On the note of assemblers: MASM is too clumsy for the LX. TASM fine.
> # However the one I use today is A86 - a real marvel! (shareware).
> #
>
>    Would you please let me know where to find A86?
>    TIA,

I'd like to add my 2 cents worth to this.

First, Masm and Tasm are essentially identical unless you use Tasm's
Ideal mode, which makes your code incompatible with the rest of the world.
They're both first rate assemblers.

A86 is available at http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ in their msdos
collection.  It might be in the asmutil directory or some such.  I don't
remember the exact spelling.  This is a huge site so you might have to
spend some time finding it.  It'll be time well spent.  It's a great site
to get to know.

A86 is also a first rate assembler.  It's written by Eric Isaacson, who
wrote the original 8080 and 8086 assemblers for Intel.  Eric is a guy who
likes to do things his own way and thats what he did with A86.  It's more
than a little different than other assemblers but it's good.

The problem with A86 is that if you're just learning asm it isn't completely
compatible with any asm books or tutorials.  That's not really a major
problem because the differences are small and fairly obvious and well
documented.  But it's an extra worry for someone learning and I don't think
it's a good choice for that reason.

All 3 assemblers work well on the palmtop.  You can debug with debug that's
built in, or use Symdeb from Microsoft that came with early versions of Masm.
That's symbolic and works well with either Masm or Tasm.

A86's debugger, D86, works well in text mode but crashes if the program
youre debugging goes into graphics mode.  Since I do a lot of graphics
that makes it fairly useless to me on the palmtop.  Which is a shame
because it's a really nice debugger.  But weird.  :)

No source level debuggers will work for any length of time on the palmtop.
Symdeb is as close as I've been able to come.  I've tried Codeview, Turbo
Debug, Soft Ice, Periscope, all the IDE debuggers with MSC and Turbo C, and
they've all been very unstable or worse.

Barry

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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> As far as I know you cannot upgrade the RAM in the 700lx.  The only upgrade
> you can do is the double speed.
> So your only bet would be the flash card.

I've never used a 700LX, so I can't say for certain, but isn't it
_already_ running at double-speed?

--
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> No source level debuggers will work for any length of time on the palmtop.
> Symdeb is as close as I've been able to come.  I've tried Codeview, Turbo
> Debug, Soft Ice, Periscope, all the IDE debuggers with MSC and Turbo C, and
> they've all been very unstable or worse.

I do have to say that TDREMOTE works very well with the palmtop
across the HP serial cable, at least with BC++ 3.1

Of course, that's not doing development right on the HP, but
on a laptop and debugging the running program on the HP.

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>From:    Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
>YES!! Get the JetEye 9610 from Extended Systems (part # ESI-9610A).
>Just bought 2 of them for $25 each, plugged one in to my PC, pointed i=
t at
>the 200LX's ir port and was communicating at 115K!

I just looked on the Extended Systems web site and I can't find any men=
tion of
a ESI-9610 Jet Eye.
Where did you find it?  Where did you purchase it?  Are any drivers nee=
ded on
the desktop or
on the 200LX?

The price sounds good so I very interested.

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usheets policy is to alter standards so that they "own" them.  It's also thier
practice to change them in ways that damage thier competitors.  For instance
they altered HTML so that it crashed standard HTML system.

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Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with a
file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?

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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:13:33 -0700, A. Meshar wrote:

>DOSCIM is good, but a hog on the palmtop - both memory and
>lots of resources. Must run it AFTER closing SysMgr.

Would this or acCIS allow me to pick up mail from my current ISP using
Compuserve as a gateway? I'm looking for the most cost effective way to
keep in touch in September when I pop over the pond to explore New =
England.
My ISP doesn't have any roaming agreements, so I'm down to using a =
calling
card for transatlantic calls (!) or something like Compuserve if it's
usable in this way.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:09:35 GMT, Neil Tungate wrote:

>I have had a couple of timeout problems collecting mail, so I intend to
>have a play with the mru and mtu settings - I understand that setting =
these
>down to a lower figure from the default 1500 can help with slower links.=
=20

A little further info.

<Beats self around head>

It helps to put the upside-down ! in the comments field when doing DOS
things from sys manager!  It's all working beautifully now :-)

--=20
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Team 200LX UK

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At 05:00 PM 6/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with a
>file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?
There is a critter called Pygmy Forth (?) which was redesigned for the LXs.
I downloaded it from SUPER or Eddie, forget which. It resembles the
standard Forth that I used YEARS ago, but my memory isn't the greatest. I
have been thinking of digging it out again, as I've been intending to
re-learn programming (I keep saying this) and Forth was a pretty reasonable
critter once I got used to it. Nice, fast, compact code, and RPN math to boot!

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Date: 10. juni 1998 20:29
Subject: Re: Memory upgrade or flash card?

>I've never used a 700LX, so I can't say for certain, but isn't it
>_already_ running at double-speed?

It is, but I didn't notice any difference between my 700lx, which I =
bought first, and my 200lx, bought 2 months afterwards. That is until I =
loaded Buddy... Now I notice that the 200lx is a little sluggish, apps =
take longer to open. Also, I seem to be missing the double-click speed =
in Buddy now. I am sort of deciding what to do, must probably upgrade to =
double speed! :-)

Franklin

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Wow, that was interesting! 2 modems? What software?

Franklin


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Date: 10. juni 1998 16:59
Subject: Re: Nuclear fission on the HP...

I ran a tiny bulletin board on a 1MB 100LX after a devastating
earthquake in Los Angeles in 1994. Supporder only two lines,
but provided the only "lifeline" to the outside world to
several individuals who were stuck at home. The main bulletin
board was destroyed (8 486s and over 50GB of disk.)

We got a designation of "Official Lifeline Support" which is
usually given to people like doctors, firefighters, nurses,
electrical workes etc. That was an interesting outcome from
the Northridge EQ of January 1994.

The modems were some old Practical Peripherals 14,400 and they
were the sixe of a 2 inch binder, a bit sohrter. We velcroed
the 100 to one of them, funny to see the computer stuck on its
modem :) ...

We have an awsome little machine.

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>> I would therefore like to add that I have used CIS for years here in t=
he
>> UK and been more than happy with the service.
>
>I was one of the criticisers, yet I have been using them for
>years. I am mostly happy, except:
>
>(1) On occasions their service is flaky - such as bad modems

Well, either I am lucky or things are better here in the UK than in the
US (that must be the first time a non-british has ever said something
like that here in the UK!). The service is quite good and certainly far
better than the two UK companies I have tried over the years (won't
mention the university where I worked as it of course(?) has too few
lines). I chose them BECAUSE it was an American company.

The UK tech support is quite good the one time I have had to call them.
It took a couple of calls but they solved it.

Jorgen

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Sargeant
>Subject: Re: Memory upgrade or flash card?
>
>>I've never used a 700LX, so I can't say for certain, but isn't it
>>_already_ running at double-speed?



-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>

>
>It is, but I didn't notice any difference between my 700lx, which I bought
first, and my 200lx, bought 2 months afterwards. That is until I loaded
Buddy... Now I notice that the 200lx is a little sluggish, apps take longer
to open


------------------------------------
I never used one either, but I saw this on the Rundel site:

TechSpeed Processor Clock Upgrade
The TechSpeed upgrade actually doubles the CPU clock speed of the HP
100/200LX and the HP OmniGo 700LX by replacing the system crystal with one
provided in the kit. All components for the modification of the timing
circuit are included, as well as the torx bit and instructions for opening
the case and installing the upgrade.

For the OmniGo 700LX, TechSpeed is only available together with
installation, because the upgrade is rather complicated to install in the
700LX. Therefore, we currently do not offer printed instructions for
do-it-yourself installation in the OmniGo 700LX.
----------------------------

So I assumed the 700lx was not double speeded already.

-Tim
pacific@castles.com
http://members.castles.com/pacific

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Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:04:56 -0400 (EDT)

03h04m13s ago ...
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or =
with a
> file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?

I know Samuel Lightcap already told you about Pygmy.  The unmodified
Pygmy Forth (v1.4) will run on the LX, but the one modified for it was
called 100pygmy.  There is a newer (v1.5) Pygmy that works on the
palmtops, and has multitasking capabilities, available from the
authors site:

        http://www.eskimo.com/~pygmy

I have a variation of this one I modified for the palmtops, but am
still working on it, & haven't contacted pygmy's author for permission
to distribute it.  It has a lot of palmtop graphics words, a revised
editor, block cursor (instead of underline), and a bunch of other
stuff...

-PR
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At 12:50 AM 6/11/98 +0200, Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>Subject: Re: Memory upgrade or flash card?
>
>>I've never used a 700LX, so I can't say for certain, but isn't it
>>_already_ running at double-speed?
>
>It is, but I didn't notice any difference between my 700lx, which I bought
first, and my 200lx, bought 2 months afterwards. That is until I loaded
Buddy... Now I notice that the 200lx is a little sluggish, apps take longer
to open. Also, I seem to be missing the double-click speed in Buddy now. I
am sort of deciding what to do, must probably upgrade to double speed! :-)
>
>Franklin
>

Is there a way to find out the clock speed of 700lx or 200lx ? I didn't
notice any difference between them.

Thanks in advance.

jien hung

jhchin@pacific.com.sg

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To check the clock speed of an LX, try LXSTAT.  It will display a value
that's twice the "actual" speed of the unit (~31Mhz for a 2x unit, ~15 for
a single speed, although the machines are really only runing at half that
clock rate).

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:23:38 -0400
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Where do you get DOSamatic?
Rodger

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Sent:  Wednesday, June 10, 1998 5:37 AM
To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:  Dream Machine

Why they not create new 200LX model? I mean
DOS and WinCE both compatible in one machine. :(
I like windows, but more like DOS on my palm.
If they release new DOS fast machine now.
I'm sure to buy it for upgrade my old 200LX.

P.S.
Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
for swapping program.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:54:11 -0400
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This is something I have been looking for also.

Tomas Moberg wrote:

> How do I "replicate" email and calendar In Lotus Notes with my hp200lx.
> Have looked around, but only found WinCE support for that and not for
> hp200lx.
>
> This is a product that I am waiting for.
>
>   /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***
>
>                     64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
>
>                     10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
>                     20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
>                     30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
>                     40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
>                     50  LET Micro$oft = 666
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     I wish to thank everyone who responded so quickly to my request for a
     line on a replacement 200LX.  I have one arriving today, so shall be
     more or less back in business.  Also, have a bid on another one on
     Inet auction.

     Again, thanks very much for the wonderful help.  Is this list great,
     or what?

     **********************************************************************
     mark beutler  mycroft_h@bigfoot.com  mark.beutler@bestpower.gensig.com
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:38:19 -0500
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> Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny
> Organization: Hewlett-Packard
> From: ianchard@voyager.sqf.hp.com (Ian Chard)
> Subject: What else do you use batteries for?
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:30:00 PDT
>
> Seen on a Dejanews advertising banner:
>
>       "Two double-A batteries. 25 hours of pleasure."
>
> Needless to say, I didn't follow the link.
>
> --
> Selected by Jim Griffith.  MAIL your joke to funny@netfunny.com.
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> Join and contribute to the Electronic Frontier Foundation today.
>
> This joke's link: http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/98/Jun/badlink.html

We all know what would have been at the end of the link...

     ...what else but an HP Palmtop site!

You'd think a guy from HP would know that!

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:42:13 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 3Com wireless modem
Comments: To: Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>

Actually the wireless modem is a radio device which connects to one of the
several radio networks currently available.  Some of them have coverage only
in the US, while some of them cover all of North America. The DataComm
program recognizes the existence of the modem and actually runs a built-in
test on it.  I don't know enough about DataComm to say that it  "runs" the
modem.  The way  I am set up, I pay a monthly fee for a certain number of
Kilobytes worth of text messages (emails, faxes, messages to alpanumeric
pagers, etc.) that my modem transmits through the radio network to my
provider (WYND Communications)  who then turns around and retransmits it
through the regular wired phone lines.  As far as I know, all such devices
are sold or rented based on the affiliation of the user to the service
provider who then supplies you with the software to run the modem and access
their network. I tried my in Alaska and Mexico just for the heck of it,
because they had told me the network had no coverage there, and indeed it
didn't. But in large cities, like Chicago, Washington DC, LA, etc.
communication is almost instantaneous with the network, and from there, it
all depends on th phone lines to get your message trough.
Thanks.

Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
1400 West Park Street
Urbana, IL   61801
-----Original Message-----
From: Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Clicking sound when power on 200lx


>May I know what softwares run with your 3Com wireless modem ? Can Datacomm,
>WWWLX or GP runs with it ?
>
>Thanks
>
>jien hung
>jhchin@pacific.net.sg
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:07:36 +0200
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Anyone in Europe can tell me more about the options available ?

I now that the GSM card: "FirstFone=AERadio Card for GSM-900" is ready =
for
release soon - but that is for GSM (Windows and W-CE only ?) and not for
the HP200 palmtop line machines.


Harry Wellner, Netherlands

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:48:10 -0500
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Simtel collection or www.shareware.com
dosamatc.zip    64K  85/10/22  DOSamatic: Multitasking
utility



Rodger N. Bird II wrote:

> Where do you get DOSamatic?
> Rodger
> P.S.

> Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
> for swapping program.
>

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Subject:      WTB: HP200lx 2Mb for parts

     I'm resending this to clarify needs and address:

     I have a 200lx 2Mb in pristine cond (hinge etc.) with the exception of
     a cracked LCD. I need a 100/200lx with a bad MB/hinge/case/etc. to
     bring it back.

     Also have a 200lx 2Mb (My daily user)that has a good LCD and repaired
     Hinge crack that is intermittent with a 32Mb Simple Tech CF card. The
     easiest repair seems to be to replace the MB with a 200lx. this would
     give me 2 200lx's, one as backup, and one in a 100lx case.

     So if anyone has or knows of a 100 or 200lx that I could part out,
     please contact me at jebuford@mail.hac.com

     TIA

     Joe Buford:-{>}



     >I'm looking for one or several HP200lx's to use for parts.

     >Please contact me off list.

     >jebuford@mail.hac.com

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:17:04 -0400
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I wrote to Extended Systems asking about the ESI-9610 Jet Eye
that was recently mention here.  Their response is...

  The ESI-9610 is no longer in production.  Our new product does not
  support your product because the HP200LX has a SIR infared port.  Our=

  new products require IrDA ports.

cheers...
Russ Brooks
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:14:38 -0700
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BTW do you have the serial number of the stolen one?  If so please post it
in case someone tries to sell it to one of us.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:34:47 -0700
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I have two  complete sets of Lotus Agenda 2.0 DOS.  In the
box, with all paperwork


"Kevin S. Ford" <ksford@nps.navy.mil>  is getting
one.
So that leaves one up for sale to the highest bidder.
==========
Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
error messages, so forth

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Macros" (7x9) slim, paperbound,
index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Definition files" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Setting up Agenda" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index, (chap 4 is 67 pages titled Printer specifications"

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Starter Applications" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Quick Start" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

1 set of 5.25 Diskettes (original)

======================================================

My snailmail address is
Patrick West
2222 N.E. Wasco St.
Portland, Or. 97232-1621

Phone
503-284-5159 (Wasco Terrace Apartments, Which my wife manages)
503-284-3608 Personal line
503-284-6549 fax line.
========================



Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:00:04 -0400
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Hi All:

     I just got a new 8mB CF for my PowerShot 350. As a result, I no
longer need the 2mB SanDisk that came with the camera. $20 plus
shipping (Sorry, no PCMCIA adapter)

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:12:27 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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01h52m47s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> BTW do you have the serial number of the stolen one?  If so please post =
it
> in case someone tries to sell it to one of us.

EXCELLENT IDEA!

Also a "Heads Up" for the rest of us...copy that S/N down!
Anybody interested in starting a DB of S/N & users? Perhaps  an
additional field in the HPLX users directory on Palmtop.net?

Cheers,


*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:54:43 -0500
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              "m. c. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Subject:      Ahh, back in the saddle again...

Back up and Goin' <g>
Got a new (used) 200LX running; all is well as could be expected.

Once more, (with feeling) thanks to everyone who took time out of busy
schedules to help me out.

I now know what withdrawal feels are like... <g>



-
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     mark beutler                           mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.13) REGISTERED

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:07:18 -0400
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At 05:12 PM 6/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
>01h52m47s ago ...
>On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:
>
>> BTW do you have the serial number of the stolen one?  If so please post it
>> in case someone tries to sell it to one of us.
>
>EXCELLENT IDEA!
>
>Also a "Heads Up" for the rest of us...copy that S/N down!
>Anybody interested in starting a DB of S/N & users? Perhaps  an
>additional field in the HPLX users directory on Palmtop.net?

And maybe even a section just to post sthe numbers of stolen/lost machines.

BTW, how does one get ON the directory?
James

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:23:51 -0700
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Thought everyone might get a kick out of the security thread that
Mark and myself have gotten into.  It started out describing the
Kensington MicroSaver lock for laptops and degenerated into my
latest pathetic idea.

----------

Hey, even better idea - one of those little paper/aluminum inventory
control stickers!  Nice and light, could even be taped to the underside.

Of course, the support system would be a little bulky, and it *would* take
some time to setup all of those walkthrough gates at all the doors.. :-)

> On 06-11 09:33am, had written:
> # It's a cylinder lock with a steel cable that has a loop in the end.  You
> # wrap it around something immovable, put the lock through the loop then
> # lock it into a standard slot (about twice the size of a rice grain) in
> # the laptop.  Both of my Compaqs had the MicroSaver slot, and several
> # other brands do too.  Since the laptop won't pass through the loop, you
> # can't easily steal the laptop (unless you put the cable around a table
> # leg that's easily lifted!)
> #
> # This would be nice for the HP, but in a much scaled-down version.  One
> # could cut a slot in the right side and back it up with a metal shim.
> #
>         I have this image of my 200LX shackled to my leg with one of
> these things...  Ah, well, just depends on what is worth it, eh? <g>
> -
> **********************************************************************
>      mark beutler                           mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
> **********************************************************************
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.13) REGISTERED
>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:44:30 -0500
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Hi all,

Those of you using DESQview, How do you
change the setup screen font?  The is
one screen font change but it doesn't
change the main set up screen where you
need it most.

yor pal al...............

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:32:42 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Tell me about it!  I couldn't check my email for a week and a half
while on vacation, and I went through Information withdrawl!  I need my
daily dose of HPLX-L!

Bill

> I now know what withdrawal feels are like... <g>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:33:56 -0500
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I'm all for starting a serial number database, it sounds like one heck of a
good idea! Let me know where and when to send mine in!

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:46:39 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Stolen HP200LX

On 06-11 03:14pm, had been written:

# BTW do you have the serial number of the stolen one?  If so please post it
# in case someone tries to sell it to one of us.
#


Good point.  I'll post it tomorrow, as soon as I can get to my files.


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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:48:09 -0500
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              "m. c. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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On 06-11 04:12pm, had written:

# 01h52m47s ago ...
# On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:
#
# > BTW do you have the serial number of the stolen one?  If so please post it
# > in case someone tries to sell it to one of us.
#
# EXCELLENT IDEA!


Yes, will do.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:13:49 -0400
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              "Earl T. Benson" <iona@TIAC.NET>
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I have pulled out my Smart fax/modem PCMCIA card that I frequently used
several years ago with my HP200lx.  Cannot get it to work.  No dial
tone.  Can you guys help me out?  (By the way, is Smart Modular
Technologies still in business or did they get swallowed up by someone?)

Here's the set up:

1.  The card is set up as drive G.  I am able to use the card as a data
storage drive without any problems.  I can run 200lx application
programs from the data files stored on the card.  So, it seems that the
machine is able to communicate with the card.    It has a capacity of 4
megs and has about 1.3 megs free.

2.  The G drive has an autoexec.bat and a config.sys file on it.  The
autoexec.bat file has the line G:\>D:\BIN\CIC100 /GEN 1 which I
understand from my User's Guide is necessary to run a modem.

3.  The modem driver is smdriver.sys 3,305 bytes and is installed on the
G drive.

4.  The DataCom setting are as follows:

        1.  Baud = 9600
        2. Com2
        3. Parity even, Data Bits 7, Stop Bits 1
        4.  Emulation VT100
        5. Xon
        6. Phone number is entered in the little box and I check that
the line has
                a dial tone.

5.  I am using the same phone cord that come with the modem.
Connections to the modem card (connection is to the card, not the serial
port) and wall phone jack are tight and good.

5. When I push the connection key,  I get a message on the Datacom
screen that says:  ATDTphonenumber, no dial tone.  I hear no dial tone
from the 200lx at all.

6. I am trying to connect to CompuServe.  The CompuServe phone number is
good since I connected to CompuServe successfully on my PC.


Am I burning the wrong incense or something?

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:27:48 -0400
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At 06:28 PM 6/8/98 -0400, <rivrwolf@HOM.NET> wrote:
>After reading several posts on programs like Software Carousel, I went
>digging ....  What I found is a DOS-based program called Direct Access
>by a company called Fifth Generation Systems. It allows you to switch
>between DOS programs and gives you simple menu controls.

I believe Direct Access was only a menu program (i.e., use one program,
close it before using another program), not a task switcher (i.e., two or
more programs opened simultaneously).  It has been awhile since I used it,
but I don't remember any task switching feature.

Besides Software Carousel, Switch-It, and Multiple Choice (MS), other good
task switchers included WordPerfect Shell (standalone and also included in
WordPerfect Office and DataPerfect) and Back & Forth.  I believe
WordPerfect  Shell had a built-in cut & paste feature.

I'll review my old programs to see what others I tried.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:06:37 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: S/N for LX's

BTW do you have the serial number of
the stolen one?  If so please post it
in case someone tries to sell it
to one of us.

EXCELLENT IDEA!
I'm all for starting a serial number
database, it sounds like one heck of a
good idea! Let me know where and when
to send mine in!

Who is the keeper of this project?

If you are going to use the LX database
I can help by constructiong one or using
your DB and input for the first few months.

Let me know.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:10:37 -0500
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while stranded in the Milwaukee airport today, I found that some of
the Ameritech payphones had data jacks. After a bit of experimenting,
I found that they are very easy to use for snagging email. All you
have to do is spool out your handy Palmtop.Net retractable phone cable
(you DO have one don't you) and connect to the port. Configure your
email fetcher to dial either a toll-free or calling card number (local
calls will not work), and then go online. The connection acted a bit
"dirty", but all my email came down after only a few stalls from
Netcom's toll-free dialup.

Just a bit of info for your traveling quiver...

Mitch
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:39:39 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 06-11 09:06pm, the following was written:

>
> Who is the keeper of this project?

Maybe we could persuade Mitch to add something to the S.U.P.E.R. site where
we call all have access to the information.

Jeff


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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:29:58 -0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Subject:      700LX myth <Re: Memory upgrade or flash card>

David,

Thanks for the tip on using LXSTAT for checking the clock speed of
700LX.

I thought someone may be interested in knowing the stat of 700LX, so I
posted this info below,


C:\>lxstat -v
Main (Alkaline)  2.407V (Ok)
CR2032 Lithium   2.947V (Ok)
PC Card Battery  Ok
Powering Source  Battery
Charging Status  Disabled
Charging Timer   0 Sec
Com1 Port Power  Up (Wire)
Lite Sleep Mode  Enabled
Power Time-Out   3 Min
Speaker Volume   2 (Medium)
Display Contrast 16 (51%)
Cursor Tracking  Enabled (+C)
ÝMenu¨+ÝArrow¨   Enabled (+K)
Annunciators(=)  Right Corner
Screen Color(/*) Rev=0 Map=1
Zoom Mode (03h)  80x25 Color "C0"
Video Mode (03h) CGA 640x200 TXT
System Manager   Not Loaded
Oscillator Freq  15.836773 MHz
Str @ F000:EC5C  Version 1.06EB
Str @ F000:FF36  ROM BIOS Ver 2.14
Str @ F000:FFF5  11/23/95

So it is only a single speed machine  :-(



Chin Jien Hung                        o__
jhchin@pacific.net.sg                _.>/)_
jienhung@singnet.com.sg             (_) \(_)
Mobile Fax : (65) 96763957

This message was send from a HP 700LX Palmtop with NOKIA cellular phone.
Small, mobile and extremely efficient :-D
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:49:24 -0400
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              Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Speaking of infrared...
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@US.IBM.COM>,
          Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@aecom.yu.edu>, Dave Twede <twede@erim-int.com>
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I purchased (2) ESI-9610A units from:

C & S
Corporate Equipment Incorporated
40 Lowell Road, Unit 6
Salem, NH 03079

Phone: 603-893-0008
Fax: 603-893-0444
WWW: www.cnds.com


Good Luck!
Steve

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:12:35 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: S/N for LX's
In-Reply-To:  Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> "Re: S/N for LX's" (Jun 11,  9:39pm)
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> Maybe we could persuade Mitch to add something to the S.U.P.E.R. site where
> we call all have access to the information.

I will look into adding this tomorrow. I think I've got some perl code laying
around that will do the trick. No frills, but functional. I don't think what I
have will re-alphabetize each time so if there are any perl wizards lurking,
just feel free to volunteer your services. :)

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:31:35 EDT
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If these work with the hp 95 lx of 100 lx I'll take it.

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:34:34 -0700
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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After months of waiting, me and my wife have just had
another baby.  She was born June 11, 1998 at 18:55 PDT.

It's for this reason that I have been a little delayed in
posting results from the contest.  Have no fear, the
contest entries have been judged and the winners will be
notified.  All entries will be posted for everybody's
enjoyment.

It was no easy task to judge the many fine (and some
bizarre) entries we received, but our panel of judges has
voted and come up with winners.  If you didn't win this
time, don't lose hope... more contests are coming up!
Thank the contest sponsors, Time2 Tech and D&A Software,
for providing many fine prizes for these contests.

And on a lighter note, the 200LX has once again proved
itself to be an incredibly valuable tool under any
conditions.  For six hours of labor, the 200LX and WWW/LX
Plus 2.0 served very well to keep in touch with the world.
Though childbirth can get a little messy, the 200LX came
through without a scratch, and can now be known as the only
palmtop to get covered by a placenta and keep on tickin'.
<g>  (Okay, I made that up, but don't think the 200LX
couldn't do it, by golly!)

The anesthesiologist who administered the epidural to my
wife was highly impressed by my 200LX, with its 32MB
internal disk and 160MB flash card.  "How'd you get
thirty-two megs in there?  My Velo 1 is only eight, and
that was the max I could upgrade it to!"  After listening
to me extol the virtues of the 200LX and Times2 Tech, he
seemed impressed.  Perhaps we'll get another user on HPLX-L
soon... <g>

(Please pardon any typing errors in this message; the baby
and mother are sleeping, and the lights are very dim in
here, and... you get the picture.)

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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:55:43 -0500
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Congratulations!!! I hope both Mom and baby are doing well! Keep us posted.

Jeff



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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:51:38 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steven English <senglish@AXS.COM.AU>
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Comments: cc: abaker@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
MIME-Version: 1.0

One other way to print using the connectivity kit is to connect the
palmtop to your desktop via laplink. Then navigate on your desktop to
the palmtop drive with the file you wish to print. Then print it. You
also would need to make sure the Canon BJ 200 was set to emulate one
of the printers supported by the 200LX. If I need to print a memo file
with the formatting I sometimes do it this way. Most of the time I
just transfer the file (saved as an ascii file) to my desktop, format
as needed & print from there.

If you just have the palmtop & the printer then you will need either
a serial to parallel converter or a pcmcia parallel card.

Regards

Steven English
Homepage: http://www.axs.com.au/~senglish

On 1998-06-10 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >Regards to all...
   >A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
   >this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
   >Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
   >(including dealers and HP itself!..)
   >until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
   >serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what the
   >connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
   >I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
   >If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?
   >Please help
   >........I'll get it printing if it is the last thing I'll do........
   >Cheers
   >Alex Baker
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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:59:16 PDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Clan Of Xymox <xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Try goto ftp.simtel.com! u will find version v2.04
it easy help me to run my some SMALL program.

C u

P.S. Any1 have try XTCE on HPCs? is work?
     XTCE sound like very excite!

>
>Where do you get DOSamatic?
>Rodger
>
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>Sent:  Wednesday, June 10, 1998 5:37 AM
>To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:  Dream Machine
>
>Why they not create new 200LX model? I mean
>DOS and WinCE both compatible in one machine. :(
>I like windows, but more like DOS on my palm.
>If they release new DOS fast machine now.
>I'm sure to buy it for upgrade my old 200LX.
>
>P.S.
>Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
>for swapping program.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:56:51 -0400
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Hi everybody,

I am on vacations in the San Francisco Bay Area and will stay there for another
couple of weeks.

Do any of you guys around here know of good places I could visit for either
used software or 200LX appliances such as PC cards, etc.? Just to keep an eye
on what is going on there. (I am staying in Sunnyvale).

TIA for any infos.

Francois

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:36:43 +1000
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Congratulation,
So you need another palmtop now!!
I think, for the begining,  she can start with a 95LX.
best regards
Alain
> After months of waiting, me and my wife have just had
> another baby.  She was born June 11, 1998 at 18:55 PDT.


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:31:02 +0800
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Hi,

Does anyone know how to setup the configuration for Chinese NJSTAR to run on
the palmtop. I downloaded NJSTAR version 3 from Eddie's 95lx site.
I tried setting to monoEGA before running on 200lx, but the starting cursor
seems to blink forever.

Thanks in advance.

jien hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg

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Congrats.  Hope all is well.
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David,
Congratulations! May the Lord's blessing be on you and your's. Keep us
posted, 'k?

>Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:34:34 -0700
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>              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
>From:         David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
>Subject:      A new baby / Contest news / Palmtop Wars
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>After months of waiting, me and my wife have just had
>another baby.  She was born June 11, 1998 at 18:55 PDT.
>
>It's for this reason that I have been a little delayed in
>posting results from the contest.  Have no fear, the
>contest entries have been judged and the winners will be
>notified.  All entries will be posted for everybody's
>enjoyment.
>
>It was no easy task to judge the many fine (and some
>bizarre) entries we received, but our panel of judges has
>voted and come up with winners.  If you didn't win this
>time, don't lose hope... more contests are coming up!
>Thank the contest sponsors, Time2 Tech and D&A Software,
>for providing many fine prizes for these contests.
>
>And on a lighter note, the 200LX has once again proved
>itself to be an incredibly valuable tool under any
>conditions.  For six hours of labor, the 200LX and WWW/LX
>Plus 2.0 served very well to keep in touch with the world.
>Though childbirth can get a little messy, the 200LX came
>through without a scratch, and can now be known as the only
>palmtop to get covered by a placenta and keep on tickin'.
><g>  (Okay, I made that up, but don't think the 200LX
>couldn't do it, by golly!)
>
>The anesthesiologist who administered the epidural to my
>wife was highly impressed by my 200LX, with its 32MB
>internal disk and 160MB flash card.  "How'd you get
>thirty-two megs in there?  My Velo 1 is only eight, and
>that was the max I could upgrade it to!"  After listening
>to me extol the virtues of the 200LX and Times2 Tech, he
>seemed impressed.  Perhaps we'll get another user on HPLX-L
>soon... <g>
>
>(Please pardon any typing errors in this message; the baby
>and mother are sleeping, and the lights are very dim in
>here, and... you get the picture.)
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In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson
revmike@iserv.net
revmike@palmtop.net
hppalmtop@hotmail.com
? What next ?

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:53:58 +0000
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If you are a programmer and have nothing to do, this may be an idea for a
program that will make some LX-users in Europe happy :

For my Nokia 2110i and my Omnigo 700LX, I would like to se a program for
editing the phone-memory or transfer to and from. I think this will work for
200LX with Nokia 2110 and PCMCIA-card, but for other Nokia-models or other
brands, I don't know.

It would be nice if the program could store the complete phone-memory (A or
B or both) as a file. The file should be standard ascii or
HP-phonebook-compatible.

It is a little bit stupid - the 700LX has built in 2110-docking, but no way
to read/write the phone's memory.

If somebody is interested in making such a program, I will be glad to help
with more specific ideas later.

Reino S=F8rlie / 700LX-user in Norway.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:19:06 -0400
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Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:50:34 -0400 (EDT)

11h43m39s ago ...
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Earl T. Benson wrote:

> (By the way, is Smart Modular
> Technologies still in business or did they get swallowed up by someone?)

Last I heard, Smart Modular is now Apex.

> Here's the set up:
>
> 1.  The card is set up as drive G.
> 2.  The G drive has an autoexec.bat and a config.sys file on it.  The
> autoexec.bat file has the line G:\>D:\BIN\CIC100 /GEN 1 which I
> understand from my User's Guide is necessary to run a modem.

I think that's the problem.  The palmtop searches the drives in
alphabetical order (Starting with A: if it exists) for the startup
files, and uses the first ones it finds.  If you also have a
config,sys and autoexec.bat on C: it will use those, otherwise it'll
use the ones on ROM drive D:  It'll never get to the startup files on
G:

BTW - why does the line in autoexec.bat include the DOS prompt?

HTH

-PR
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Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:15:05 -0400 (EDT)

06h40m31s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> After months of waiting, me and my wife have just had
> another baby.  She was born June 11, 1998 at 18:55 PDT.

Congratulations and a "virtual cigar"!  (Better for you and your family
than the real thing).

-Peniel
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A local store is clearing out some old merchandise, including a couple of dusty
Belkin Red Eye infrared serial port transceivers.

Are there any Red Eye users out there? How useful is this thing for weekly
back-ups of my 200LX to my old PC desktop? Does the included software include
SIR <-> IrDA translation, and if not, where can I find serial IrDA drivers for
the HP?

Any feedback will be thoroughly appreciated.
Bruce

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What you want is the inside track on how this is done by the software that
is already available for Windows.   The Nokia GSM PC card includes software
that can do this; the TDK GreyCell SoftModem can do it too, but
interestingly not for the Nokia 2110 (other Nokias OK).

If someone could acquire that interface software (which will not involve any
Windows stuff) that would be half the battle.

Of course even nicer would be a software modem for the LX, but TDK GreyCell
are not going to (not enough market).  They are doing one for CE, but there
are problems as there is no standard for the serial connector.  It would
suit so well, as not using a PC card socket would (a) save power and (b)
leave the slot free for flash cards etc.  The LX could easily keep up with a
GSM at 9600 baud.

I can't help thinking that the phone manufacturers probably have this code
in their test labs.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:11:55 -0700
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> Hi everybody,
>
> I am on vacations in the San Francisco Bay Area and will stay there for =
another
> couple of weeks.
>
> Do any of you guys around here know of good places I could visit for =
either
> used software or 200LX appliances such as PC cards, etc.? Just to keep =
an eye
> on what is going on there. (I am staying in Sunnyvale).
>
> TIA for any infos.
>
> Francois

Francois:
The Silicon Valley area has some GREAT computer stores.  Unfortunately,
the 200LX is getting tougher to find here, as it's being phased out by
the WinCE models.

Here are some places to try: (sorry, I don't have addresses)
Micro Center, off Mission College Blvd. (last time I was there, they
carried the Connectivity Pack, AC adapters, cables, and Intellisync.
Also many PCMCIA cards, digital cameras, and they have a great library
of books!)
Fry's electronics, on Arques Blvd. : Used to carry the 200LX (I bought
my 4mb model there, haven't been inside in some time.)
Disk Drive Depot, on Lawrence Blvd. (Carries PCMCIA storage cards)

That's all that comes to mind...

Have fun here in the land of the Almighty Dollar!  <g>

Bill

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:38:03 -0400
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Folks:

I have a first attempt for the HP Palmtop Serial Number Registry up and running
now. Please link in from the front page of Palmtop.Net and let me know what you
think. It is bare bones, but will get the job done. I hated to have to TABLE it
as WWW/LX doesn't groove on tables too much, but it was the only good way to
keep things looking semi-orderly.

A very nice thing to have for this and many other things like it would be a way
to generate an up-to-date GDB of the info in the registry for immediate
download. The data is stored in a delimited ASCII text file that could be
processed by some clever perl to generate a GDB. This would work well for the
SUPER database too as I am usually pretty bad about keeping that file current.
I know we have the specs for the GDB files so if anyone has programming talent
and some spare time, have at it. :)

Mitch
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Hi
In a message dated 98-06-11 21:33:29 EDT, you write:
>  Besides Software Carousel, Switch-It, and Multiple Choice (MS), other good
>  task switchers included WordPerfect Shell (standalone and also included in
>  WordPerfect Office and DataPerfect) and Back & Forth.  I believe
>  WordPerfect  Shell had a built-in cut & paste feature.

Which version?

BTW:  WP V5.1 will fit in a footprint as small as 849841 bytes.
             Use: WP.EXE        228352
                       WP.FIL          617619
                        WP(WP).SET  1928
                       STD.PRS          1942

That's all folks, yor pal al....................................

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I know I've probably read the answer to this at least twice, but I'll ask
anyway... I just bough a two year old Dell laptop for 20% of orginal price (Now
that's depreciation) and want to be able to access my HP Flashdisk... where can
I get the drivers to make the PCMCIA slot work?

Thanks for the info... By the by - I plan on running mostly DOS based programs
on it - not just in defiance to Microsoft, but because I already own them and
they do the job, faster than Windows most of the time!

Brian

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:14:51 -0400
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Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:00:16 -0500 (EST)

Hi Brian:

16h28m41s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> If these work with the hp 95 lx of 100 lx I'll take it.

It will work, but you will need the CF -> PCMCIA adapter. They run
about $15-20. Try http://www.buycomp.com or http://www.cdw.com, etc...

Let me know if your still interested. Also I will need your shipping
address.

Cheers,

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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Congratulations and a "virtual cigar"!  (Better for you and your family
> than the real thing).

Thanks!  Appreciate it, and so do my lungs!  <g>

Even better, how about a virtual chocolate cigar? <g>

--
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> Wow, that was interesting! 2 modems? What software?

We had normally run 75 modem on that BBS with 5 PCs.. I don't remember =
the
program, something like tiny BBS?

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Steve,

<<  You can bet that they'll correct this 'oversight' in a
future  > release.. For 'security' reasons, of course.. <g>
>>

Right! Usually their "standards adjustment" evolves when their
brainless programmers can't code and chew gum at the same
time! <g>...

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> >DOSCIM is good, but a hog on the palmtop - both memory and
> >lots of resources. Must run it AFTER closing SysMgr.
>
> Would this or acCIS allow me to pick up mail from my current ISP using
> Compuserve as a gateway? I'm looking for the most cost effective way to
> keep in touch in September when I pop over the pond to explore New
> England.

Neither would. To pick up email from your ISP you need an
internet access. Neither acCIS nor DOSCIM provide this. They
both access Compuserve's proprietary email.

You can get Compuserve account but you'll need to get an
internet communications program. We have one WWW/LX Plus, and
there is very good and venerable competition to us in the form
of Goin' Postal and NetTamer.

Tnne you can login locally to a Compuserve node, hook up to
their PPP Gateway and point to your ISP's email servers and
download you email. The connection would be llocal to CIS,
then over internet to the rest of the way.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:00:36 -0400
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I just got an email from Al Kind and he is unable to choose his machine model
and the machine speed on the LXRegistry input page; choosing one turns off the
other. I can't duplicate this behavior on Linux or Windows Netscape, but can
see it with WWW/LX. I'm pretty sure that the HTML is correct so when you get a
chance, check out the page and report back to me (off the list) if you have
problems and what browser you're using. If you know what is wrong, let me know.

Thanks!

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:55:06 -0700
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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:

> A local store is clearing out some old merchandise, including a couple
> of dusty Belkin Red Eye infrared serial port transceivers.
>
> Are there any Red Eye users out there? How useful is this thing for
> weekly back-ups of my 200LX to my old PC desktop? Does the included
> software include SIR <-> IrDA translation, and if not, where can I find
> serial IrDA drivers for the HP?

I tried one of those about a year ago... it claimed to be compatible with
the 200LX (i.e. do SIR) but it never did work right.  Eventually, I gave
up and returned it.

It was probably just me, though.  <g>

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Thanks for the thoughs!  I'll do that...

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Francois Ennesser <100774.3617@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
> I am on vacations in the San Francisco Bay Area and will stay there for another
> couple of weeks.
>
> Do any of you guys around here know of good places I could visit for either
> used software or 200LX appliances such as PC cards, etc.? Just to keep an eye
> on what is going on there. (I am staying in Sunnyvale).

w/r/t used and old software, my list goes something like this:

Herb's Software, on Brokaw in San Jose (near the Brokaw/I880 interchange,
across Brokaw from the San Jose Fry's).

Weird Stuff on Caribbean Drive in Sunnyvale.  There is also a Weird
Stuff "software-based store" in Fremont but on my one visit it didn't
seem to have a lot of MS-DOS software.

The weekly Computer Recycling Center sale at 2971 Mead Avenue in Santa
Clara.  This is fed by donations; CRC's primary goal is refurbishing
old computers for schools, but these days schools seem to mostly want
Pentiums running Win95 and so I guess that leaves CRC with
un-placeable stuff to sell, both to get it out of the way and make
some money to fund their activities.  There's usually a couple of
bookshelves full of software-like stuff (software packages, manuals,
&c) for various platforms and typically a little MS-DOS stuff.  This
happens every Saturday from 0900 until 1300.

This Saturday you might want to check out the Foothill electronics
swap meet at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills (on El Monte Road
just south/west of I280).  It's largely amateur radio stuff but old
and new computer stuff turns up too as folks bring it in the hope of
exchanging it for a few dollars instead of bringing it back to clutter
up the garage.  The swap meet starts early (officially 0700 but really
more like sunrise) and is over by 1200.  Bring eight quarters ($0.25
coins) for car parking.

Quite frankly the easy pickings for MS-DOS software are getting slim,
if for no other reason than that the excess/overstock software channel
has been flooded with Win3.1 stuff and cheap CD-ROMs, and is now
getting flooded with first-generation Win95 stuff and still more cheap
CD-ROMs.  Herb's still has some stuff by way of Herb having been in
the business for several years at least; some of the MS-DOS stuff has
been on his shelves for a long long time.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:29:34 -0700
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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 wyn@alphalink.com.au wrote:

> Congratulation,
> So you need another palmtop now!!
> I think, for the begining,  she can start with a 95LX.

Good point... it's cheap, but among the only family of palmtops that can
withstand baby drool!  <g>

(Actually, wasn't there a thread a while back about a 200LX that got
drooled on by a baby?   Any word on how that ended up, anybody?)

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Mitch

I can do a GDB file, if needed, someone else needs to
make a doohicky to spill out a delimited file.

yor pal al......................


A very nice thing to have for this and many other things like it would be a
way
to generate an up-to-date GDB of the info in the registry for immediate
download. The data is stored in a delimited ASCII text file that could be
processed by some clever perl to generate a GDB. This would work well for the
SUPER database too as I am usually pretty bad about keeping that file current.
I know we have the specs for the GDB files so if anyone has programming talent
and some spare time, have at it. :)

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:41:36 -0700
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Having said that the channel for this stuff seems to be drying up....

Last week I was in the Washington DC area on business and a colleague
turned me on to the existence of some inexpensive copies of Microsoft
FoxPro 2.0 (single user) in a computer store in Gaithersburg.  I'd
been wanting to try that ever since someone here mentioned it in
response to my query about database software for the palmtop.  So I
bought one: it was marked $29.95 but the man behind the counter asked
me if I got it from one of "those piles over there".  I said yes
(truthfully) and he told me they were $10.00 -- not sure if this is an
attempt to get 'em moving faster or some special sale that I lucked
into.

It does seem to install OK on the palmtop: the package I got included
3.5"-720KB and 5.25"-1.2MB disks.  Doesn't want to run under MaxDOS
though.  The installation seems to be taking up a little less than 6MB
of disk space but I think I could prune that a bit (I loaded some of
the examples).

Where found: The Computer Place
             50 Bureau Place, #A-6
             Gaithersburg, MD 20878
             Tel: +1 301 330 6016 (sales)
             FAX: +1 301 926 3415

This is very near the NIST campus in a shopping center with a Giant
food store.

Also there were FoxPro 2.5 Upgrade for Win3.1 and FoxPro 2.0 Upgrade
for MS-DOS.  I've no idea whether the store will sell over the phone
and ship; I didn't ask.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:12:38 -0400
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Avi:  I am trying to do just that as I write this.  I downloaded the new
version of WWWLX and tried to register using the built-in feature.  I connect
to Compuserve ok but it won't send the completed message--timeout error.  I
emailed you at D&A so disregard the duplicate.

Jim

A. Meshar wrote:

> > >DOSCIM is good, but a hog on the palmtop - both memory and
> > >lots of resources. Must run it AFTER closing SysMgr.
> >
> > Would this or acCIS allow me to pick up mail from my current ISP using
> > Compuserve as a gateway? I'm looking for the most cost effective way to
> > keep in touch in September when I pop over the pond to explore New
> > England.
>
> Neither would. To pick up email from your ISP you need an
> internet access. Neither acCIS nor DOSCIM provide this. They
> both access Compuserve's proprietary email.
>
> You can get Compuserve account but you'll need to get an
> internet communications program. We have one WWW/LX Plus, and
> there is very good and venerable competition to us in the form
> of Goin' Postal and NetTamer.
>
> Tnne you can login locally to a Compuserve node, hook up to
> their PPP Gateway and point to your ISP's email servers and
> download you email. The connection would be llocal to CIS,
> then over internet to the rest of the way.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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While reading this thread, I was contemplating who has the oldest
HP palmtop of each type (i.e. 95lx, 100lx, 200lx).  So I dug up the 95lx =
and read its serial number.  It has the number:
ABA3206A00104

I know how to read my 200's SN (SG44002723). Could someone explain the =
scheme on the 95, please?

Thanks,

Chris

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:14:26 -0600
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Frank McConnell wrote:

>
> Where found: The Computer Place
>              50 Bureau Place, #A-6
>              Gaithersburg, MD 20878
>              Tel: +1 301 330 6016 (sales)
>              FAX: +1 301 926 3415
>
> This is very near the NIST campus in a shopping center with a Giant
> food store.

I have been there (back when I was stationed in MD) and wanted to
let you know this store specializes in closeout software. Call and
ask if they have what you want.  I picked up an old version of
MS Project a few years back.

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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Chris Hoover wrote:

> While reading this thread, I was contemplating who has the oldest HP
> palmtop of each type (i.e. 95lx, 100lx, 200lx).  So I dug up the 95lx
> and read its serial number.  It has the number:  ABA3206A00104
>
> I know how to read my 200's SN (SG44002723). Could someone explain the
> scheme on the 95, please?

Just a guess here, but SG is for Singapore, so perhaps ABA is another HP
location that the 95LX was manufactured at?

And then 320 might be 1993, 20th week...

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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 wyn@alphalink.com.au wrote:

> (Actually, wasn't there a thread a while back about a 200LX that got
> drooled on by a baby?   Any word on how that ended up, anybody?)

If I remember correctly it was a Doctor's HPLX that was tinkled (peed,
urinated, pissed) on by a child he was examining.  I think I remember
that everything came out okay in the end...

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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Stan Hall wrote:

> If I remember correctly it was a Doctor's HPLX that was tinkled (peed,
> urinated, pissed) on by a child he was examining.  I think I remember
> that everything came out okay in the end...

I remembered that one, but even before that (by a few months, I think) was
another post about a baby that drooled all over somebody's keyboard...

I was just curious, because since then I've updated the Palmtop Adventure
page on my site to include instructions / pictures for taking apart /
cleaning the keyboard...

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..while my HP200LX appt.adb-file just crashed (battery empty while
saving or disc full?), I am in urgent need of a restoration utility or
any advice how to repair the file!

Is there any hope for recovering my calender? (Yes, I know, it is my
foult, of course my backup is not very recent..)

Any help would be great!

Many thanks
    Georg Mittenecker

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Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM> wrote:
> While reading this thread, I was contemplating who has the oldest
> HP palmtop of each type (i.e. 95lx, 100lx, 200lx).  So I dug up the 95lx and read its serial number.  It has the number:
> ABA3206A00104
          ¬¬¬¬¬ 00104 = serial number; sometimes this resets when the
                        date code changes, sometimes it doesn't
         ¬ A = country of manufacture: A=US
       ¬¬ 06 = 6th week of year (together with year this makes the date code)
     ¬¬ 32 + 1960 = year 1992
  ¬¬¬ ?? no idea about this

Note the date code is sometimes an actual date of manufacture, and sometimes
a date of last revision.  It depends on the product, I think.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:48:55 -0400
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At first that's what I thought. We do have one machine running it though and
when I checked it out, it will let you switch between programs (Alt+Esc for
those interested).

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 9:38 PM
Subject: Task Switchers & Direct Access


>I believe Direct Access was only a menu program
>(i.e., use one program, close it before using another
> program), not a task switcher (i.e., two or more
>programs opened simultaneously).  It has been
>awhile since I used it, but I don't remember any task
> switching feature.

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As a follow up, since I have an old 10mb Ace Doubleflash as a spare
flashcard I decided to start experimenting with running my 200lx strictly
from DOS using Direct Access to multi-task. What I converted into is a DOS
machine running:

1) DOS 5
2) Direct Access for menu / task switching
3) WordPerfect 5.1 for text / word processing
4) Lotus 2.4 for spreadsheet
5) Calendar Creator + for PIM (temporary - it's the only thing I had)
6) CompuShow 8 for graphics
7) Nettamer (XT) for web/email (temporary just for this trial)
8) Additional and Various - Games / Utilities / Drivers

I did get all the programs running simultaneously, but very slowly (compared
to System Manager). I would not suggest doing this all the time - maybe 3
programs max. Also I used all of the flashcard space because I used the full
versions of all the programs.

All in all, unless you have specific needs I plan to stick with most of the
built-in software and add from there (at least until I get a network card
and a memory upgrade - mmmmm, LAN Manager!).

So this experiment wasn't the most efficient use of my 200lx resources.
There is something gratifying in the knowledge that my 200lx can do what I
want, how I want, if I want.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:21:05 EDT
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Comments: To: bamcilvaine <bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM>

When I put my SanDisk/HP unstacked flashcard into laptops it is
immediately recognized by Win95 without a hitch.  Not true of NT 4.0
which requires add-on software.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Text of message from bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM, 12 Jun 1998, 11:43 AM
> I know I've probably read the answer to this at least twice, but I'll
> ask anyway... I just bough a two year old Dell laptop for 20% of orginal
> price (Now that's depreciation) and want to be able to access my HP
> Flashdisk... where can I get the drivers to make the PCMCIA slot work?
>
> Thanks for the info... By the by - I plan on running mostly DOS based
> programs on it - not just in defiance to Microsoft, but because I
> already own them and they do the job, faster than Windows most of the
> time!
>
> Brian
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Hi all

I am an about to be first time CE user having just ordered an HP 620LX

My question:  will I be able to connect to my office machine running win =
95 with the 620lx running win ce and access my data on the office hard =
drive.

Is there a recomended remote control program for ce that will allow me =
to run programs on my office machine and view and control from the 620lx

thanks in advance for any help.

sorry if this is too mundane for the list members.

steve gladstone=20

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:08:22 -0400
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Thanks for trying to help me out.

Using the 200lx memo editor, I opened the autexec.bat file that is located on
my C drive and found the following line:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen1 (no rem in front of it)

It looks like the autoexec.bat file on the C drive has the proper instruction
line.

Can you think of anything else I might try?  Still no luck.

Thank you for your help.

Earl Benson

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Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 11h43m39s ago ...
> On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Earl T. Benson wrote:
>
> > (By the way, is Smart Modular
> > Technologies still in business or did they get swallowed up by someone?)
>
> Last I heard, Smart Modular is now Apex.
>
> > Here's the set up:
> >
> > 1.  The card is set up as drive G.
> > 2.  The G drive has an autoexec.bat and a config.sys file on it.  The
> > autoexec.bat file has the line G:\>D:\BIN\CIC100 /GEN 1 which I
> > understand from my User's Guide is necessary to run a modem.
>
> I think that's the problem.  The palmtop searches the drives in
> alphabetical order (Starting with A: if it exists) for the startup
> files, and uses the first ones it finds.  If you also have a
> config,sys and autoexec.bat on C: it will use those, otherwise it'll
> use the ones on ROM drive D:  It'll never get to the startup files on
> G:
>
> BTW - why does the line in autoexec.bat include the DOS prompt?
>
> HTH
>
> -PR
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From www.theonion.com

Evil Genius Gates Drops Windows 98 into NYC Water Supply


 NEW YORK--Determined to circumvent Justice Department action
forestalling
the release of his powerful new operating system, Microsoft CEO and evil

genius Bill Gates dropped Windows 98, coded into liquid form, into New
York
City's water supply sometime this past weekend.

"Excellent," said Gates, watching his scheme unfold on a 30-foot video
screen deep within Microsoft's Redmond, WA, compound. "Everything is
going
exactly according to plan."

Doctors say the risk to New Yorkers who consume Windows-tainted water is

considerable. "As little as three ounces of water can carry the entire
Windows 98 installer file into the drinker's cerebral cortex," said Dr.
Terry Braithwaite of New York's Mt. Sinai Hospital. "Once this insidious

operating system enters a person's brain, it may take years to fully
rebuild
his or her original neurological programming, and even then, old files
can
remain in their memories for years."

According to New York water commissioner Glenn Portnoy, the Susquehanna
and
Catskill reservoirs were contaminated with the software in question late

Saturday night, rendering 100 percent of the city's taps
Windows-compatible
only. Those living in any of the city's five boroughs, Portnoy said, are
now
at risk of having the system installed in their bodies by drinking,
cooking
with, or even showering with New York City water.

 "Residents of New York!" said Gates in a televised address early Monday

morning. "Some of your neighbors, your friends, your own family members
have not
yet joined us in operating within our glorious system. Why not? Is
something
affecting their judgment? Are they perhaps... thirsty?"

"Water," Gates added. "The source of all life."

Gates then emitted a sinister, high-pitched laugh and faded out,
returning
televisions across New York to their regular programming with the push
of a
button.

Justice Department officials said they plan to come down hard on the
software giant for its latest controversial move. "Not only is tampering

with a major metropolitan area's water supply illegal," U.S. attorney
Joel
Klein said, "but mass, involuntary bio-installation of operating-system
software is a gross violation of federal antitrust law."

Klein said Microsoft has also taken steps to prevent rival Netscape from

placing its web browser in New York's reservoirs, an act he said may
constitute a further illegal monopolistic trade practice. If found
guilty of
dispatching winged Microsoft henchmen to block Netscape's access to the
reservoirs, Microsoft may face fines of up to $670 million.

Gates refused to respond to the allegations, but spoke directly to the
people of New York via Microsoft's Windows 98 brainwave transmitter,
saying,
"Command priority reformat unit sub-Klein-delete//DELETE: A-Priority."
Klein's whereabouts are currently unknown.

Despite Microsoft's tainting of their water supply, New Yorkers seem
relatively unfazed.

"There is nothing wrong with having Windows 98 in my body," said a
glassy-eyed Queens woman identifying herself as
"7398473289348390-98.01."
"Windows 98 is good. Where do I want to go today, O Gateslord?"

Added the woman: "Invalid sector error Type -41."

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:42:34 +1000
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I thought the 95LX only accept SRAM card

> > If these work with the hp 95 lx of 100 lx I'll take it.
>
> It will work, but you will need the CF -> PCMCIA adapter. They run
> about $15-20. Try http://www.buycomp.com or http://www.cdw.com, etc...
>


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Okay, perhaps I'm being a luddite here, but what I'd really like to do is just
transfer some plain old POP3 mail files (individual messages) from my home
computer to my 200lx so that I can hash out my replies when I'm away from
home, and then transfer the replies back to my home computer so that they can
be uploaded to the mail server.

I like to have my mail and replies stored on the desktop computer, so it's
easiest to just download my mail to the desktop.  This way I can decided what
files need to be transferred to the palmtop, sparing a mass download.

I actually like the cc:Mail program interface on the 200lx.  Is there a way to
translate POP3 and cc:Mail formats easily?  Is there some documentation of the
cc:Mail format somewhere?  BTW, I'm using an Amiga as my desktop.

I've tried out GP and looked at quaLX (which seems overly complicated to
install for my needs).  If worse comes to worse, I may just have to write an
ARexx macro to do the job for me.  That's what I had to do to transfer my
Elm/Pine mailfiles to something more readable by my mail program.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:26:42 -0400
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Perhaps it was good that I accidently cross posted to the list. I
didn't know that the 95LX only took SRAM. Thanks forthe info. It should
be OK for the 100LX though,right?

Thanks for the input!

02h41m27s ago ...
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Alain Psyche wrote:

> I thought the 95LX only accept SRAM card
>
> > > If these work with the hp 95 lx of 100 lx I'll take it.
> >
> > It will work, but you will need the CF -> PCMCIA adapter. They run
> > about $15-20. Try http://www.buycomp.com or http://www.cdw.com, =
etc...

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:35:21 -0400
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Is there a way to run the built-in Lotus outside of system manager?

Thanks

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:41:23 -0600
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Sorry, but I can't findd DOSamatic anywhere.  Could you post the ZIP
file name?

Clan Of Xymox wrote:

> Try goto ftp.simtel.com! u will find version v2.04
> it easy help me to run my some SMALL program.
>
> C u
>
> P.S. Any1 have try XTCE on HPCs? is work?
>      XTCE sound like very excite!
>
> >
> >Where do you get DOSamatic?
> >Rodger
> >
> >----------
> >From:  Clan Of XymoxÝSMTP:xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> >Sent:  Wednesday, June 10, 1998 5:37 AM
> >To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> >Subject:  Dream Machine
> >
> >Why they not create new 200LX model? I mean
> >DOS and WinCE both compatible in one machine. :(
> >I like windows, but more like DOS on my palm.
> >If they release new DOS fast machine now.
> >I'm sure to buy it for upgrade my old 200LX.
> >
> >P.S.
> >Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
> >for swapping program.
> >
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Never mind, I found it.  Sorry to be a pest!

Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Sorry, but I can't findd DOSamatic anywhere.  Could you post the ZIP
> file name?
>
> Clan Of Xymox wrote:
>
> > Try goto ftp.simtel.com! u will find version v2.04
> > it easy help me to run my some SMALL program.
> >
> > C u
> >
> > P.S. Any1 have try XTCE on HPCs? is work?
> >      XTCE sound like very excite!
> >
> > >
> > >Where do you get DOSamatic?
> > >Rodger
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From:  Clan Of XymoxÝSMTP:xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> > >Sent:  Wednesday, June 10, 1998 5:37 AM
> > >To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > >Subject:  Dream Machine
> > >
> > >Why they not create new 200LX model? I mean
> > >DOS and WinCE both compatible in one machine. :(
> > >I like windows, but more like DOS on my palm.
> > >If they release new DOS fast machine now.
> > >I'm sure to buy it for upgrade my old 200LX.
> > >
> > >P.S.
> > >Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
> > >for swapping program.
> > >
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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:05:51 -0400
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   >Is there a way to run the built-in Lotus outside of system manager?
Message-Id: <19980613020608.FNCL28455@Ý12.64.37.81¨>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 02:06:08 +0000

No. At least to my knowledge, noone's ever worked that one out.

I think the somewhat lame workaround is to find a full copy of 123 v2.4
somewhere and install it.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:13:46 -0700
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Unless I'm all wet, PNR (palmtop news reader) will read unix style
mailbox files.


Bill

> Okay, perhaps I'm being a luddite here, but what I'd really like to do =
is just
> transfer some plain old POP3 mail files (individual messages) from my =
home
> computer to my 200lx so that I can hash out my replies when I'm away =
from
> home, and then transfer the replies back to my home computer so that =
they can
> be uploaded to the mail server.

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What a joke. I own an NEC Mobilepro-400 Windows CE palmtop.
It' useless.
My 200LX, attached to my belt with a rugged leather case by Case-Logic, and
my wife's 100LX run circles around it.
As a killer, for when we're away for a few days at a time, the Libretto 50CT
is great for faxing, surfing the net, e-mailing, and doing our business
invoicing on the road.
For $699 there's no reason to even consider Windows CE, specially the 620LX
colour palmtop, which sales for more.

Jeffcom.

Patrick West wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Brian Dipert wrote:
>
> > A like-new
> > Compaq C140 upgraded to CE 2.0 is headed my way as I speak...........
> > ............... and I'll try to not dwell on what I'm leaving behind...
>
> Then don't leave anything behind.  Grab a copy of XT-CE the dos emulator
> that runs on the CE machines.  I don't have the URL but a couple of
> minutes on any of the palmtop newsgroups should turn it up.
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
> Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Hi Richard,

Try ftp://ftp.hkstar.com/.2/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/dosamatc.zip



>From rsmith@enol.com Fri Jun 12 18:42:07 1998
>From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@enol.com>
>Organization: Orion Enterprises
>
>Sorry, but I can't findd DOSamatic anywhere.  Could you post the ZIP
>file name?
>
>Clan Of Xymox wrote:
>
>> Try goto ftp.simtel.com! u will find version v2.04
>> it easy help me to run my some SMALL program.
>>
>> C u
>>
>> P.S. Any1 have try XTCE on HPCs? is work?
>>      XTCE sound like very excite!
>>
>> >
>> >Where do you get DOSamatic?
>> >Rodger
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From:  Clan Of XymoxÝSMTP:xymoxhk@HOTMAIL.COM¨
>> >Sent:  Wednesday, June 10, 1998 5:37 AM
>> >To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>> >Subject:  Dream Machine
>> >
>> >Why they not create new 200LX model? I mean
>> >DOS and WinCE both compatible in one machine. :(
>> >I like windows, but more like DOS on my palm.
>> >If they release new DOS fast machine now.
>> >I'm sure to buy it for upgrade my old 200LX.
>> >
>> >P.S.
>> >Deskqv? Multiple Choice? I enjoy using DOSamatic
>> >for swapping program.
>> >


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>As a killer, for when we're away for a few days at a time, the Libretto
>50CTis great for faxing, surfing the net, e-mailing, and doing our
>business invoicing on the road.
>
So are the HP WinCE palmtops, at about 1/4 the cost, 1/2 the weight and 4-6
times the battery life.
>
>For $699 there's no reason to even consider Windows CE, specially >the
620LX colour palmtop, which sales for more.
>
Guess what? The 620 *IS* $699. As for not considering CE, well, one of these
days you'll realize that there are plenty of reasons, not the least of which
is a world of applications you are obviously ignorant about.

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My favorite is Golf Solitaire.
Thanks Curtis.

Jeffcom.

James P. Grenert wrote:

> Man, if there were an HPLX "hall of fame," Curtis Cameron would be one of
> my first nominees!  If only people like him worked for Microsoft; the
> programs would be 1/10 the size and run twice as fast!
>
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> grenert@mayo.edu
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The 100LX and 200LX are both labled as 12V D.C., negative centre.

Jeffcom.

Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Tue,  9 Jun 1998 09:43:00 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 06h46m17s ago ...
> On Tue,  9 Jun 1998, Reino Sorlie wrote:
>
> > My HP700LX which is an 200LX says positive on the center. This is marked
> > near the connector on the HP.
> > --
>
> Interesting about the 700LX.  Just to be absolutely sure, I looked
> again at my 100LX, 200LX, both manuals, and the HP adapter.  Negative
> center.  The 700 must use a different adapter...
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:15:24 -0500
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I bought lx95 s.n. ABA3148400948 in the spring of '91, still works fine.
Not sure which of ours is older.

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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Chris Hoover wrote:

> While reading this thread, I was contemplating who has the oldest
> HP palmtop of each type (i.e. 95lx, 100lx, 200lx).  So I dug up the 95lx and read its serial number.  It has the number:
> ABA3206A00104
>
> I know how to read my 200's SN (SG44002723). Could someone explain the scheme on the 95, please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
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The connectivity pack comes with an adaptor for serial printers.
Some printers, like my OL-400e Okidata, are equipped with both serial
and parallel ports.You should be able to buy a second hand OL-400e very
reasonably.
And it also works great with my desktop computer.

Jeffcom.

John Musielewicz wrote:

> Regards to all...
>
> A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
> this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
> Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
> (including dealers and HP itself!..)
> until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
> serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what
> the
> connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
> I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
> If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?
>
> Please help
>
> ........I'll get it printing if it is the last thing I'll
> do........
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex Baker
>
> ______________________________________________________
> ______________________________________________________
>
> Alex
>
> The connectivity pack does not have a serial to parallel
> converter in it. You need to contact someone like Shier
> Systems (www.shier.com) and buy one. Or you could get a ir
> adapter for your printer and use the LX ir port to print.
> That is what I do with my deskjet 340. Good luck.
>
> John
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 19:09:46 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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In-Reply-To:  <008c01bd9634$b8a181e0$0aa6010a@lilwolf.hom.net> from "River
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> DOS using Direct Access to multi-task.
>
> I did get all the programs running simultaneously, but very slowly
Is this actual, honest-to-goodness multitasking, so you could compile and
edit +at the same time+?

Really really?
I'd given up on this concept.

> There is something gratifying in the knowledge that my 200lx can do what I
> want, how I want, if I want.
:)


--
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I have a 512 sram card HP F1003A and it works fine in the 100 xl but I can't
get the 95xl to notice it.

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Applications for CE?  I went to every store in town asking them about
applications when I saw a CE machine for less then 200$.  Then I sdcanned the
internet.  I couldn't find anything except PIMS, and they are already included
with the machine.  The draw program I played with at Office depot didn't have
snap to grid so what good is it.  It's great hardware with no software.

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>First, Masm and Tasm are essentially identical unless you use Tasm's
>Ideal mode, which makes your code incompatible with the rest of the
world.
>They're both first rate assemblers.

Yes, MASM and TASM accept the same syntax (more or less), but they are
certainly not identical. MASM demands much more RAM and is far slower -
something you of course will not notice on a Pentium. TASM is - like all
Borlands languages - nice, fast and compact. I would not consider MASM
for the LX.

>A86's debugger, D86, works well in text mode but crashes if the program
>youre debugging goes into graphics mode.  Since I do a lot of graphics
>that makes it fairly useless to me on the palmtop.  Which is a shame

Yes, unfortunately. You can overcome that by making conditional
compilation, and replace the calls to the graphic functions with calls
that print the values to screen. I agree that this solution is not
ideal but it works. Turbo Debugger and CodeView do not support symbolic
labels for COM files which is one of the reasons I dropped TASM despite
having to translate all my library stuff and some larg'ish programs to
A86.

One irritating thing is that A86 does not support STRUC very well so you
will have to work around that.

Jorgen


   =

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 06:25:52 -0500
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On 06-12 08:19am, had written:

# Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
# BTW - why does the line in autoexec.bat include the DOS prompt?
#
# HTH


Just a pointer back to whatever you want as the default dos drive after
loading the various TSR's or whatever in the autoexec.  That way, if,
for instance, you do not autoload 200, you will be left at the C
prompt.  Or, if you put A:\ in the last line, then you would be left at
the A prompt.

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 06:32:09 -0500
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Subject:      Missing 200 serial #

SN of the stolen HP200LX is SG62100504 per my records.

Called this in to HP, as well.
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 07:33:28 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Dream Machine

To all who see this greetings;

DOSAMATIC can indeed be gotten at:
ftp://ftp.hkstar.com/.2/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/dosamatc.zip

Haven't tried it yet but its ZIP file size
at 67K is smaller than Carousel and DESQview
by a couple hundred thousand K.

>From rsmith@enol.com Fri Jun 12 18:42:07 1998
From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@enol.com>

Yor pal al .....................

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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:24:45 -0500, Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:

>transfer some plain old POP3 mail files (individual messages) from my
home
>computer to my 200lx so that I can hash out my replies when I'm away
from
>home, and then transfer the replies back
...
>I like to have my mail and replies stored on the desktop computer, so
it's
>easiest to just download my mail to the desktop.  This way I can decided
what
>files need to be transferred to the palmtop, sparing a mass download.

Rod Whitby and I have talked a little bit about making a cross-platform
workstation-mail-app <-> Palmtop News Reader syncronization system. I'd
love to hear your thoughts, off-line, about what features you'd
want/need.

>BTW, I'm using an Amiga as my desktop.

I was thinking the workstation side would be written in Perl for
cross-platform use and ease of customization (can't hide the logic in an
interpreted language!). I figured to write any GUI interfaces in Perl/Tk
or Tcl/Tk, at least that runs on UNIX, Mac, Windows, and OS/2 WINOS2 with
win32s(?). Looks like Perl 5 will compile on AmigaDOS, that's good to
read.

>I've tried out GP and looked at quaLX (which seems overly complicated to
>install for my needs).  If worse comes to worse, I may just have to
write an
>ARexx macro to do the job for me.  That's what I had to do to transfer
my
>Elm/Pine mailfiles to something more readable by my mail program.

Palmtop News Reader 2.2 (from
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/lxtcp.html) is able to
import UNIX mailbox files, which are easy to create from Pine "folders",
you might look at that too.

I'd be very interested in hearing, off the list, from folks who would be
interested in an HP <-> workstation email syncronization system. Seems to
me some design goals should be:
 * works with multiple workstation mail apps (Netscape, Pine, Eudora,
...)
 * allows each palmtop to deal with > 1 workstation (e.g. home and work),
and for each workstation to deal with > 1 palmtop (e.g. husband and wife)
 * open source (probably GPL license http://www.gnu.org)
 * multi-platform (UNIX, Windows, hopefully others as testers help debug)
 * does not affect the palmtop's ability to *also* fetch mail through an
internet connection if you have your palmtop set up for that
 * minimal space required on the palmtop
 * easy to use, hopefully with at least the most common tasks in a nice
GUI (Tk on the workstation, PAL on the palmtop?)
 * works with multiple palmtop mail readers as specs and demand appear
 * supports usenet to some degree (?)

Basically I really like being able to deal with mail and news on the
commute to work but don't like the hassles of downloading with a modem,
or having to re-download and cleanup later on my desktop to save
important messages. If anyone has comments or ideas, please email me
directly. At this point I'm just sketching out some high-level logic, and
hoping I have the time to get it done right ;-)

-Peter

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Hello, all.

At our PDA meetings here in Oslo we lamented about the lack og a program =
to retrieve, store and edit the phone list in the telephone and card, =
and Reino S=F8rlie posted a plea for a programmer. Well, I am not a =
programmer really, but I thought that a simple macro might get a file =
and put a file into the phone's memory. Edit it in Memo.  A real =
programmer would be needed to ul and dl from the phonebook, though.

But...

From the Nokia site one can get the DTP-2 help files describing all the =
AT commands. But only some of them work on my phone... It looks like all =
the commands concerning the phones behaviour are "blacklisted", but I =
can't see what more to do.

I have tried the same phone with a 700LX (built-in DTP-2) and a 200LX =
with a seperate DTP-2 card. No go.  Maybe my phone is bad! But it does =
work with GP...

Try this, please:

Dock the Nokia 2110 phone in a 700LX (or use a 200LX with a DTP-2 card, =
use fresh batteries, I nearly had a heart attack when it shutdown, just =
giving me double beeps afterwards!)

Set up Datacomm to use the phone/com port. 9600,8N1, cts/rts, emulation =
doesn't matter, tried vt100, ansi and tty.

Type:

ati9

This should give you the PnP id of the card.

ati2

gives sw & hw rev.#s.

atd<a number> should call a number


But now all I get is ERROR.

at*nokiatest    (test phone)
at?                    (should give you a help screen)
at+cbc            (test battery)
at+ceer            (last error messages)

etc.


But at*c is interesting! Gives access to SMS! Type HELP...

So, anybody want to look at this?

Have a nice day!

Franklin

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Hi! Steven

This list is for DOS HPLX palmtops and not for win HPLX. (or I=B4m wrong?=
)
Is not better send your question to wince specific list?

Just a suggestion from a one week un-happy wince user and now a proud, 10=
0%
satisfied and die-hard
HP200LX user again!!!=20
:-)

Pablo KIM

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De: Steven D. Gladstone, Esq. <watchdog@PTD.NET>
A:=20
Asunto: total novice
Fecha: Viernes 12 de Junio de 1998 4:28 PM

Hi all

I am an about to be first time CE user having just ordered an HP 620LX

My question:  will I be able to connect to my office machine running win =
95
with the 620lx running win ce and access my data on the office hard drive.

Is there a recomended remote control program for ce that will allow me to
run programs on my office machine and view and control from the 620lx

thanks in advance for any help.

sorry if this is too mundane for the list members.

steve gladstone=20

mailto:watchdog@ptd.net

http://www.cwcorgi.com

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I=B4m as a recently frustrated wince user totally accord with you like
thousand
of other DOS HPLX users=20
It would be good a colour DOS HPLX instead.

HP!!!  Please come back to home, to DOS HPLX...

Sorry to XTCE programmer but the XTCE emulator is a very slow and not
practical product like the Pilot emulator.
=20

Pablo KIM


Israel Tokayer <itokayer@ARACNET.NET> wrote:=20
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> What a joke. I own an NEC Mobilepro-400 Windows CE palmtop.
> It' useless.
> For $699 there's no reason to even consider Windows CE, specially the
620LX
> colour palmtop, which sales for more.

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 > > read its serial number.  It has the number:
 > > ABA3206A00104
 >           ¬¬¬¬¬ 00104 = serial number; sometimes this resets when the
 >                         date code changes, sometimes it doesn't
 >          ¬ A = country of manufacture: A=US
 >        ¬¬ 06 = 6th week of year (together with year this makes the date
code)
 >      ¬¬ 32 + 1960 = year 1992
 >   ¬¬¬ ?? no idea about this

ABA is the Rom version.  They did this with the Omnibook too.

And congrats to David Sargeant, may he rest in peace.
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 > Perhaps it was good that I accidently cross posted to the list. I
 > didn't know that the 95LX only took SRAM. Thanks forthe info. It should
 > be OK for the 100LX though,right?

The 95LX can accept a small number of 12V Flash Type I cards.  The 100LX
can accept Type II, v2.0 (not 2.1 like the 200lx) in 12V forms.  CF cards
only work at 3.3 and 5V, and hence will not work in the 100LX, as I
understand.

If you are looking for a card to work in the 100LX, get an original
Sandisk/Sundisk SDP-5,10,20M card.  Or an ACE card.  Pretec cards will
work, but terribly slowly, according to reports.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, al chin wrote:

> To all who see this greetings;
>
> DOSAMATIC can indeed be gotten at:
> ftp://ftp.hkstar.com/.2/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/dosamatc.zip
>
> Haven't tried it yet but its ZIP file size
> at 67K is smaller than Carousel and DESQview
> by a couple hundred thousand K.

Erm, since 1000k is roughly one megabyte, "a couple hundred thousand K"
would make Desqview some 100mb... It's big, but not _that_ big :-)


Regards,

Laust

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On 06-12 01:39pm, had been written:

# > ABA3206A00104
#           ¬¬¬¬¬ 00104 = serial number; sometimes this resets when the
#                         date code changes, sometimes it doesn't
#          ¬ A = country of manufacture: A=US
#        ¬¬ 06 = 6th week of year (together with year this makes the date code
# )
#      ¬¬ 32 + 1960 = year 1992
#   ¬¬¬ ?? no idea about this
#
# Note the date code is sometimes an actual date of manufacture, and sometimes
# a date of last revision.  It depends on the product, I think.
#
# -Frank McConnell


Frank or anyone else,

Any idea why the 1960 + xx for the date code, as opposed to just
"19xx"?

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On 06-12 10:48pm, had been written:

# >As a killer, for when we're away for a few days at a time, the Libretto
# >50CTis great for faxing, surfing the net, e-mailing, and doing our
# >business invoicing on the road.
# >
# So are the HP WinCE palmtops, at about 1/4 the cost, 1/2 the weight and 4-6
# times the battery life.

Yah, but, if I wanna do Windows, I wanna do real Windows, not yet
another slow clumsy variation on a theme.


# >For $699 there's no reason to even consider Windows CE, specially >the
# 620LX colour palmtop, which sales for more.
# >
# Guess what? The 620 *IS* $699. As for not considering CE, well, one of these
# days you'll realize that there are plenty of reasons, not the least of which
# is a world of applications you are obviously ignorant about.

The "ignorant" part I've got to take issue with, Bernie.  Look around
at this group as a whole.  HP200LX users seem to me to be some of the
most "tool aware" of any user groups I've seen.  Also, I think that
most of the people on this group have experimented with at least one
other palmtop of some type, kind, or sort and wound up back with the
200, simply because the other palmtop did not offer the range of
features the 200 (and Dos) offers.  I've owned an HP Ce machine.  Great
for marketing, sales, and manager types.  Not so great for people doing
technical work of some kind.

Also, the HP CE machines are larger; no longer a comfortable "back pocket"
carry, IMHO.  If I cant carry it easily, I wont carry it.  And those
belt holsters just remind me too much of the guys in my high school,
years ago, with the tape on the glasses and the calculator on the
belted plaid pants.  I want an upgrade to the 200.  But, I want upward
compatability.  Already got nice apps.  Dont feel like lining someone's
pocket with "CE" versions of what I have now.  If HP makes a "400LX",
oh, say a 386 in the same size,  I'll be first in line to replace my
200 with out shedding a tear.  In the meantime, nobody makes anything
that'll do what this 200 can with the same speed, convenience, and ease
of use.

(ok, hopping off soapbox, sorry about the tirade)

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In a message dated 98-06-13 09:18:17 EDT, you write:

>
>  Sorry to XTCE programmer but the XTCE emulator is a very slow and not
>  practical product like the Pilot emulator.
>
Is the slow speed of wince XTCE slower than a dbl spd LX?

yor pal al.......................

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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:
> This list is for DOS HPLX palmtops and not for win HPLX. (or I=B4m wrong?=
)

If you're wrong lets not admit it and that way we'll make it true.

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Thinking about the LX Registry -> GDB idea, Craig Payne's GDBIO notes say
that C source code for GDBLOAD/GDBDUMP is available "on Compuserve in
library 11 of the HPHAND forum in a file called DBUSRC.ZIP". Neither
Mitch nor I have CIS access, could someone d/l this and email to us? I
assume we'll put it on SUPER if the distribution license allows that.

Thanks!

-Peter

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> How could you check and know if a machine with serial number
> xyz is indeed my machine? Let's do some thinking here before
> we jump. You may open a good spot for abuse.

I guess that is true. Could be a goldmine for spammers, too. I will take it
down for now until a consensus is reached on the right way to approach the
problem. I will save the information that has already been input if we do
figure out a way to do it safely.

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How could you check and know if a machine with serial number
xyz is indeed my machine? Let's do some thinking here before
we jump. You may open a good spot for abuse.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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David:

Great News! Congratulations to your Baby to have arrived!

She is a smart kid, to have chosen you as a parent, since you
use a 200LX with the _right_ software! ÝNatchrally, I am very
pleased with your software choice! :-)¨

Hope her mom and you are doing fine after all the placenta
slinging. <g>...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Ola Pablo

Sorry to XTCE programmer but the the XTCE
emulator is a very slow and not a practical
product like the Pilot emulator.

Is the Pilot emulator better, faster
than XTCE?  Does it work on the HP 320/620?
Will it run all DOS pgms?  Do you know
of its limitations?

Yor pal al .....................

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I have been doing a few current measurement tests on the 200LX and
found the following moderately interesting effect which in summary
indicates that once Filer has been opened, do not close it otherwise
your power consumption will increase.:

When entering System Manager from boot, to Topcard, current =3D 35mA
Open Filer & current drops to 25mA (pulsing with clock)
While Filer open, even if in background, current remains at 25mA
Close Filer & current increases to 70mA and remains there with any
application open
With Filer closed and all applications closed, sitting at Topcard, curren=
t
increases to 80mA
Return to DOS, current drops to 35mA (serial port power off) or =

40mA (serial port power on)
Reload System Manager current remains 35mA - cycle repeats.
Alternatively power off & on and cycle repeats.

These results have been found to be identical on two 200LX's, with and
without Buddy loaded.

Anyone know why?

Laurence Harvey

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> # the Libretto 50CTis great...
> # So are the HP WinCE palmtops, at about 1/4 the cost, 1/2 the weight and 4-6
> # times the battery life.

Great! A flame war between the Libretto and WinCE ... on a mailing list
full of hp200lx users... who's gonna win?   :)


--
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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:45:43 -0600
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Besides, I think it's kind of funny that people would spend so much money on a CE
machine -- with very few apps and a proprietary OS and CPU, and giving Micro$oft
more money and control -- and then put a PCXT/DOS emulator on it!   Hello,
people!  There's this really great palmtop from HP called the 200lx!  It runs DOS
(already) and comes with a PIM and you can get thousands of apps for it!

Oops! Sorry, the 200lx doesn't have a mouse driven interface and a color screen.
Oh, well...

Brian Dnovan wrote:

> Applications for CE?  I went to every store in town asking them about
> applications when I saw a CE machine for less then 200$.  Then I sdcanned the
> internet.  I couldn't find anything except PIMS, and they are already included
> with the machine.  The draw program I played with at Office depot didn't have
> snap to grid so what good is it.  It's great hardware with no software.
>
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Very interesting, and impressive  Can anyone duplicate Laurence's results?  If
so, then I would be completely convinced.

Nothing personal against you, Laurence, that's some excellent work, it's just
the scientifically proper way to go about such things -- if someone else can
duplicate the experiment with the same results, then we can be  certain of its
accuracy and validity. :)


Laurence Harvey wrote:

> I have been doing a few current measurement tests on the 200LX and
> found the following moderately interesting effect which in summary
> indicates that once Filer has been opened, do not close it otherwise
> your power consumption will increase.:
>
> When entering System Manager from boot, to Topcard, current = 35mA
> Open Filer & current drops to 25mA (pulsing with clock)
> While Filer open, even if in background, current remains at 25mA
> Close Filer & current increases to 70mA and remains there with any
> application open
> With Filer closed and all applications closed, sitting at Topcard, current
> increases to 80mA
> Return to DOS, current drops to 35mA (serial port power off) or
> 40mA (serial port power on)
> Reload System Manager current remains 35mA - cycle repeats.
> Alternatively power off & on and cycle repeats.
>
> These results have been found to be identical on two 200LX's, with and
> without Buddy loaded.
>
> Anyone know why?
>
> Laurence Harvey
>
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Hi,
I'm looking for a simple dos text scroller program, that would display
a text file by scrolling the text on the screen at a rate settable by
the user.  Kind of a cheap version of that vertical reader program.  I
just use my 200lx in dos all the time now, and such a utility would
be very useful to me.  If anyone has one or knows where I can find
one, please drop me a line.  Thanks.
        --Robert
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Could we place drop the war?  I could start a nice one on OS/2 vs. Windows
:)

Ease of use is the key.  If the company uses Excel, Word, & outlook then a
CE machine with XTCE is easier to work with.



On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Besides, I think it's kind of funny that people would spend so much money on a CE
> machine -- with very few apps and a proprietary OS and CPU, and giving Micro$oft
> more money and control -- and then put a PCXT/DOS emulator on it!   Hello,
> people!  There's this really great palmtop from HP called the 200lx!  It runs DOS
> (already) and comes with a PIM and you can get thousands of apps for it!
>
> Oops! Sorry, the 200lx doesn't have a mouse driven interface and a color screen.
> Oh, well...
>
> Brian Dnovan wrote:
>
> > Applications for CE?  I went to every store in town asking them about
> > applications when I saw a CE machine for less then 200$.  Then I sdcanned the
> > internet.  I couldn't find anything except PIMS, and they are already included
> > with the machine.  The draw program I played with at Office depot didn't have
> > snap to grid so what good is it.  It's great hardware with no software.
> >
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> the scientifically proper way to go about such things -- if someone else can
> duplicate the experiment with the same results, then we can be  certain of
its
> accuracy and validity. :)

I would also like to see a duplication of results and also a clarification or
two from Laurence:

> While Filer open, even if in background, current remains at 25mA

Is this actually open or is it "asleep" consuming RAM, but not reading the
disk(s) as with a stock machine. Or, is it actually fully closed with something
like CLOSEFLR (no RAM usage).

Do the readings change when the serial port is on/off/locked as you can do with
Buddy?

Thanks!

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Richard A. Smith wrote:
>
> Very interesting, and impressive  Can anyone duplicate Laurence's results?  If
> so, then I would be completely convinced.

I haven't duplicated them exactly, but I can verify that different apps
seem to affect current draw-- when I was doing measurements and went into
Buddy's EXM, it would drop current drain to 25ma or so.  Then, exiting
would boost it back up to 50ma.
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:21:45 -0600
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I seem to remember a DOS program that would do such a thing, but can't
remember the name of it.  Maybe try VDE Editor, VIEW, or Dexter on the
S.U.P.E.R. site (palmtop.net).

Kathleen Hollington wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm looking for a simple dos text scroller program, that would display
> a text file by scrolling the text on the screen at a rate settable by
> the user.  Kind of a cheap version of that vertical reader program.  I
> just use my 200lx in dos all the time now, and such a utility would
> be very useful to me.  If anyone has one or knows where I can find
> one, please drop me a line.  Thanks.
>         --Robert
> --
> Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR --
>   kholling@nrn1.nrcan.gc.ca.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM when replying)
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 11:27:59 -0700
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Marc,

I'm still working on it. I've given up on using raw MAPI and will be using
OLE Automation to connect to Outlook.

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/support/downloads/LNP143.asp?PR=CHS
<http://support.microsoft.com/support/downloads/LNP143.asp?PR=CHS&T1=7d&FR=0
&A=T&T=B&S=F&> &T1=7d&FR=0&A=T&T=B&S=F& if you are interested -- LOTS of
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Delos,

I'm hoping to have something put together by the end of this month (June).
The big problem is that I have this day job that keeps interfering...

- Joe

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Subject: HP200LX with Outlook 98


Hello Joe-

I saw on the UCONN website that you were working on a sync program for the
200LX and Outlook 98.  I have this same dilemma (use Outlook 98 at work &
home, but use a HP200LX), and I would rather not purchase a new palmtop.
Have you completed this software yet, or know where I can find something
similar?

Thanks-

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In a message dated 98-06-13 10:00:54 EDT, you write:

>
>  > To all who see this greetings;
>  >
>  > DOSAMATIC can indeed be gotten at:
>  > ftp://ftp.hkstar.com/.2/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/dosamatc.zip
>  >
>  > Haven't tried it yet but its ZIP file size
>  > at 67K is smaller than Carousel and DESQview
>  > by a couple hundred thousand K.
>
>  Erm, since 1000k is roughly one megabyte, "a couple hundred thousand K"
>  would make Desqview some 100mb... It's big, but not _that_ big :-)
>
You're right, I never wuz good at arithmatic, always got a zero too many :)
........

yor pal al.........................

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DOS pgms use a loop to test for any keyboard input.
So while you are reading the screen, or whatever, the
cpu is very busily testing for keyboard input.
Buddy may be smart enough to slow the cpu speed
before it goes into that keyboard loop, thereby saving juice.



David Sargeant wrote:

> Richard A. Smith wrote:
> >
> > Very interesting, and impressive  Can anyone duplicate Laurence's results?  If
> > so, then I would be completely convinced.
>
> I haven't duplicated them exactly, but I can verify that different apps
> seem to affect current draw-- when I was doing measurements and went into
> Buddy's EXM, it would drop current drain to 25ma or so.  Then, exiting
> would boost it back up to 50ma.

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I found one that I'm including with the GP2 release called TS.EXE (from
a ZIP on the Internet called TSV1_0.ZIP).  It makes a nice
reader for GP, but the speed isn't configurable and I don't think it does
exactly what Robert is asking for.  Scrolling on the HP LCD sucks anyway,
TS scrolls when you page up/down, but you can't read it because the LCD
is too slow anyway.

> I seem to remember a DOS program that would do such a thing, but can't
> remember the name of it.  Maybe try VDE Editor, VIEW, or Dexter on the
> S.U.P.E.R. site (palmtop.net).
>
> Kathleen Hollington wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm looking for a simple dos text scroller program, that would display
> > a text file by scrolling the text on the screen at a rate settable by
> > the user.  Kind of a cheap version of that vertical reader program.  I
> > just use my 200lx in dos all the time now, and such a utility would
> > be very useful to me.  If anyone has one or knows where I can find
> > one, please drop me a line.  Thanks.
> >         --Robert
> > --
> > Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR --
> >   kholling@nrn1.nrcan.gc.ca.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM when replying)
> >
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> John Musielewicz wrote:
> > Regards to all...
> > A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
> > this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
> > Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
> > (including dealers and HP itself!..)
> > until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
> > serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what
> > connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
> > I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
> > If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?

For all of the MacNuts out there, most of the Mackitgtosh printers
will happily print from the LX with little fiddling needed. (Just my
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In a message dated 98-06-13 12:31:00 EDT, you write:


the Libretto 50CTis great...
So are the HP WinCE palmtops, at about 1/4 the cost, 1/2 the weight and
4-6 times the battery life.
>
Great! A flame war between the Libretto and WinCE ... on a mailing list
full of hp200lx users... who's gonna win?   :)

     WHO CARES?      yor pal al.......................

Besides, I think it's kind of funny that people would spend so much money on a
CE
machine -- with very few apps and a proprietary OS and CPU, and giving
Micro$oft
more money and control -- and then put a PCXT/DOS emulator on it!   Hello,
people!  There's this really great palmtop from HP called the 200lx!  It runs
DOS
(already) and comes with a PIM and you can get thousands of apps for it!

Oops! Sorry, the 200lx doesn't have a mouse driven interface and a color
screen.
Oh, well...              Brian Dnovan wrote:

> Applications for CE?  I went to every store in town asking them about
> applications when I saw a CE machine for less then 200$.  Then I sdcanned
the
> internet.  I couldn't find anything except PIMS, and they are already
included
> with the machine.  The draw program I played with at Office depot didn't
have
> snap to grid so what good is it.  It's great hardware with no software.
      .................but  its a nice paperweight............ :>

yor pal al......................................

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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > # the Libretto 50CTis great...
> > # So are the HP WinCE palmtops, at about 1/4 the cost, 1/2 the weight and 4-6
>
> Great! A flame war between the Libretto and WinCE ... on a mailing list
> full of hp200lx users... who's gonna win?   :)

Not the 200LX users...    :(

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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Kathleen Hollington wrote:

> I'm looking for a simple dos text scroller program, that would display
> a text file by scrolling the text on the screen at a rate settable by
> the user.  Kind of a cheap version of that vertical reader program.

Are you aware that the only expense for Vertical Reader is
a postcard and postage?  Seems pretty cheap to me.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> From: Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Programming languages
> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 3:28 PM
>
> At 05:00 PM 6/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with
a
> >file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?

Yes.... There was a forth for the 95 and 100 called util forth..
I got it at educalc.( now gone) I'll See if I can finnd a new source...
Steve

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:18:42 +1200
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>
> > Hi,
> > I'm looking for a simple dos text scroller program, that would display
> > a text file by scrolling the text on the screen at a rate settable by
> > the user.  Kind of a cheap version of that vertical reader program.  I
> > just use my 200lx in dos all the time now, and such a utility would
> > be very useful to me.  If anyone has one or knows where I can find
> > one, please drop me a line.  Thanks.
> >         --Robert
> > --
> > Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR --
> >   kholling@nrn1.nrcan.gc.ca.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM when replying)

Try this,
more < textfile.txt (or doc or whatever).
This will output to screen and pause each screenfull, waiting for a
keypress.
Unfortunately, it doesn't scroll backwards! But as it is built into the rom
on
D: drive, it's free...

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Thankyou to all who helped me print to my Canon BJ200.
I am now printing direct through my P.C. to the printer
using the connectivity pack and a DOS program called
Omniprint, Al Kind emailed me the other day. Thanks Al!
I thoroughly recommend this small and useful program.
No extra cable, no extra serial printers, not even a
(dare I say it:) Machintosh is needed! Perhaps the guys at S.U.P.E.R. =
could put it on the list.

To quote Maxwell Smart....

........'Chief, the solution to fitting a round peg in a square hole is =
not necessarily in the shape of the hole......'

Cheers,

Alex Baker

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 19:20:57 -0500
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On 06-12 11:00pm, had been written:

# My favorite is Golf Solitaire.
# Thanks Curtis.
# Jeffcom.
#
# James P. Grenert wrote:
#
# > Man, if there were an HPLX "hall of fame," Curtis Cameron would be one of
# > my first nominees!  If only people like him worked for Microsoft; the
# > programs would be 1/10 the size and run twice as fast!
# > J. P. Grenert


I agree completely.  Have been hooked on some of Cameron's games for
years.  Great stuff; excellent way to avoid serious work!
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:47:26 -0700
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When I got to:

> Evil Genius Gates Drops Windows 98 ...

I was happy.

Then this unfolded:

> ... into NYC Water Supply

And I guffawed! Thank you. Good piece. Very funny...<G>...

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:47:22 -0700
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> Avi:  I am trying to do just that as I write this.  I downloaded the =
new
> version of WWWLX and tried to register using the built-in feature.  I =
connect

Netscape email blew up on you! the message is cut off. I got
the private ok. As well as the ones to D&A support, which
passed along to Tech Support. I also replied privately.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:47:29 -0700
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John,

> Is there a way to run the built-in Lotus outside of system manager?

You mean after turning System Manager off? Then how will you
reach its component?

I think probably not, unless some genius figured out an
elegant way for it!

However, I know of two people (I am one) who run Lotus 123 rel
2.4 that was installed externally into the palmtop. This is
not using the built-in, true. But it runs outside System
Manager.

I prefer the built-in - faster, less glitchy! I agree with
Longden the extrnal installation is a lame solution <g>...


  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:47:33 -0700
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Al,

> >  Sorry to XTCE programmer but the XTCE emulator is a very slow and =
not
> >  practical product like the Pilot emulator.
> >
> Is the slow speed of wince XTCE slower than a dbl spd LX?

Unfortunately. It is about 4.5MHz, as far as I know.

I think the problem is that XTCE emulates a 80186 chip, not
DOS. As such, the amount of work needed by the machine is
fairly large just to get instructions emulated.

It is possible that when the WinCE machines run cpus at 4
times current speed (say 300MHz) the performance will match
the double speed 200LX.

It would be interesting when the XTCE can run say at 50-100MHz
rate! That may require a CE cpu running at say 750mhz or so.
Probably a year or two from now, maybe a little more. I wonder
how you measure battery life in minutes! :)...

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:13:47 +1000
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SRAM cards are faster than the Flash but they are
really more expensive too.

I have one 2Mg , one 1Mg, and tow 64K
SRAM card for sell.

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:24:39 EDT
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Perhaps I have missed something along the discussion, but I cannot get this
program to work on my 200lx 1mb... I have tried both the rc.exm (older) and
remcom.exm (v1.09) from app mgr but -- the error message I get is "Error
Opening Application: Cannot find application to open."  I have tried it from
ramdisk and from flash, with no other apps open.  halp?

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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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I have to agree with Avi about caution here. When Mack upgraded my
palmtop to 32MB he gave me a new bottom cover as the old one was a little
warped. I have no idea who's serial number is now on the bottom of my
palmtop!

> How could you check and know if a machine with serial number
> xyz is indeed my machine? Let's do some thinking here before
> we jump. You may open a good spot for abuse.
>

GaryS

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Date:         Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:12:41 -0700
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To all Software Carousel users:

Apparently, there's some sort of bug (or virus?) that afflicts Software
Carousel when the date is 6-13-98.

Today, many people had trouble with SC trying to initialize Work Area 3.
The machine would freeze at the "Software Carousel . . . Initializing"
display.  Setting the date to most any other date seems to fix the problem.

There were plenty of posts the the HPHand forum about this, but I've seen
nothing to the list yet... did anybody on this list have such a problem?
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:06:50 +1200
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Does anyone know of output/input devices (ie turn a servo motor on and off
or read input lines ie connection is on or off) that are available and
would work using the serial port of the HP200LX?

A previous message to the mailing list mentioned using devices in
anesthetics and as I am an anaesthetic trainee, I would be very interested
in obtaining more information.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:10:49 +1000
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I have a friend who uses a Toshiba Libretto 70CT (p120, 32Mb) to run
Autocad 14, 3D Studio MAX 2, and Lightwave 3D 5.5  There's no way that you
can do that on a CE palmtop!  Here in Australia, a Pentium 75 Libretto is
also cheaper than color CE palmtops.  If only the'd shrink it in size a bit
more, and multiply the battery life by 10 or 20, it would be a decent
replacement for the 100/200lx!

>> # the Libretto 50CTis great...
> # So are the HP WinCE palmtops, at about 1/4 the cost, 1/2 the weight and
4-6
>> # times the battery life.
>

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:10:46 +1000
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If they are standard unix/Eudora mailbox files (probably .mbx), they can be
converted to a database file with MBX2GDB (availible on my web site;
www.hutchins.tas.edu.au/student/tim/palmtop or on Super).

Tim Pitman


At 07:13 PM 6/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Unless I'm all wet, PNR (palmtop news reader) will read unix style
>mailbox files.
>
>
>Bill
>
>> Okay, perhaps I'm being a luddite here, but what I'd really like to do
is just
>> transfer some plain old POP3 mail files (individual messages) from my home
>> computer to my 200lx so that I can hash out my replies when I'm away from
>> home, and then transfer the replies back to my home computer so that
they can
>> be uploaded to the mail server.
>

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These are the CF cards? or directly for the 90 lx or 100 lx?

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You could use a serial to parrlel converter, although most I have seen are
bigger then the hplx.  Could communicate with a Basic Stamp computer over the
serial port and use it's eprom and parrlel port lines with very simple
programming.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 05:15:39 -0400
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Someone recently posted a question about making NJSTAR (Chinese version)
work on the HP,  You need a set of files that come in njcga21.zip.  This
set of files is unsupported (and won't be) the .doc says they are free to
use for personal use and you don't need to register them.  I looked at the
njstar site and this file doesn't appear to be there any longer.  You can
use some of the files from njstar3.0 for dos with the cvg specific
programs.
email me privately if you want me to send you the njcga21.zip.
Cheers
Ron

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 06:52:20 -0500
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On 06-13 11:06pm, had been written:

# Does anyone know of output/input devices (ie turn a servo motor on and off
# or read input lines ie connection is on or off) that are available and
# would work using the serial port of the HP200LX?
# Regards,
# Stefan Lombaard
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Stephan,

There are various companies that make "evaluation boards" for their
DSP's, Microcontrollers, and such.  They are usually some sort of small
pc board that has, processor and memory/uarts/peripherals on it.  An
example of this is the Analog Devices 2100 "EZ-Kit Lite", which another
gentleman posted an intersting oscilloscope/signal generator program
for that ran on and was controlled by the HP200LX.  These eval boards
are available for a nominal fee (considering), usually in the US$50 to
US$250 range.  Most of these have configurable digital and analog I/O,
built in UARTs, and every one I've seen has a serial port to talk to
the PC that you download your program with.  Let me know if you want
more info on this.

Regards,
 -
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:23:00 -0400
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Hi All:

     Seems time to reiterate the thrust of the HPLX-L. Originally I
took up where Mitch Hamm left off. The intent was mostly the discussion
of the DOS series of LX machines.

     There are, however, several members who own, or have owned WinCE
machines, and therefore are very knowledgeable on the subject.

     Let's not give posters of HP-WincE questions too much grief,
they already have enough problems <grin>. As I suggested before though,
once the original question has been posted, please respond privately.

BTW: does anyone know of a WinCE only LIST/NewsGroup (other than
conp.sys.palmtops <g> ) that we could direct people to?

Thanks & Cheers!

22h46m11s ago ...
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:
> > This list is for DOS HPLX palmtops and not for win HPLX. (or I=3DB4m =
wrong?
> )
>
> If you're wrong lets not admit it and that way we'll make it true.
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
> PGP Key fingerprint =3D3D  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF =
DF 8D
> Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:33:53 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:30:03 -0500 (EST)

1 day 56m42s ago ...
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, hplx wrote:

> The 95LX can accept a small number of 12V Flash Type I cards.  The =
100LX
> can accept Type II, v2.0 (not 2.1 like the 200lx) in 12V forms.  CF =
cards
> only work at 3.3 and 5V, and hence will not work in the 100LX, as I
> understand...

I will have access to a 100LX later this week, so I'll test it then.

I don't have tha manual in front of me now, but I believe the specs on
my new 8mB "VersaCard" say compatible w/ 100 & 200LX. Don't see why the
SanDisk would be any diferent.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:03:10 -0300
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              Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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Subject:      Re: xtce...A true super ultra  SLOW motion  DOS
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As conclusion:
Actual DOS emulation on a WINCE ( eg.XTCE ) is a fantasy and dream
yet...and maybe forever.
:-)

I=B4m sure there are so many people (specifically HPLX users ) interested=
 for
a Wince emulating DOS.

WARNING!!!
Test yourself these things before make a decision about WINCE.

Pablo KIM

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A. Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> >  Sorry to XTCE programmer but the XTCE emulator is a very slow and no=
t
> >  practical product like the Pilot emulator.
> >
> Is the slow speed of wince XTCE slower than a dbl spd LX?

Unfortunately. It is about 4.5MHz, as far as I know.

I think the problem is that XTCE emulates a 80186 chip, not
DOS. As such, the amount of work needed by the machine is
fairly large just to get instructions emulated.

It is possible that when the WinCE machines run cpus at 4
times current speed (say 300MHz) the performance will match
the double speed 200LX.

It would be interesting when the XTCE can run say at 50-100MHz
rate! That may require a CE cpu running at say 750mhz or so.
Probably a year or two from now, maybe a little more. I wonder
how you measure battery life in minutes! :)...

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...and  SRAM need "button battery" to maintain it=B4s memory content.


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Alain Psyche <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU> wrote:
> A:=20
> Asunto: Re: CF 2mB...$20
> Fecha: Domingo 14 de Junio de 1998 12:13 AM
>=20
> SRAM cards are faster than the Flash but they are
> really more expensive too.
>=20
> I have one 2Mg , one 1Mg, and tow 64K
> SRAM card for sell.
>=20
> Al
> Wyn@alphalink.com.au
> Melbourne / Australia
> http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn
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   >To all Software Carousel users:
   >Apparently, there's some sort of bug (or virus?) that afflicts
   >Software Carousel when the date is 6-13-98.

Thanks for the info!  My SC worked fine until I
rebooted.  Then it would hang at "Software
Carousel...Initializing". I spent over an hour trying
to figure out what was wrong. Even restored from a
back up copy from a few days earlier, thinking maybe
something got corrupted.  I left it for a while, came
back to it later (it happened to be after midnight!)
and it worked fine!

So why would only that date be affected?


nancy

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:32:24 -0400
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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>> While Filer open, even if in background, current remains at 25mA
>
>Is this actually open or is it "asleep" consuming RAM, but not reading t=
he
>disk(s) as with a stock machine. Or, is it actually fully closed with
something
>like CLOSEFLR (no RAM usage).

This is when Filer has been opened and then another SysMgr application =

opened after it i.e. Filer is still loaded and consuming memory but is
"behind" the current foreground application.

>Do the readings change when the serial port is on/off/locked as you can =
do
with
>Buddy?

Interesting question. I did a couple more tests on this with Buddy loaded=

and =

setting the different serial port states.

As expected, with Filer as the foreground application,  the 25mA measured=

with the serial port off or locked increased to about 30mA when the seria=
l
port =

was turned on. =


Unloading/closing Filer seems to always turn off the serial port (as
reported by
Buddy  at the bottom of the More Applications screen), so the current was=
 =

always 70mA, as previously reported.

The interesting discovery is that turning the serial port on when at the
"More"
screen with 70mA being consumed reduced the current back to 30mA, and
then turning it back off set the current back to 25mA i.e. current
consumption
has returned to normal levels (serial port controlled via + & - keys).

A possible conclusion from this is that closing Filer does something to t=
he
serial port to increase its current consumption and that turning the seri=
al
port =

on or off via Buddy resets that state back to the normal on/off condition=
s
that are normally seen.

Laurence Harvey

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<snip>

pocket with "CE" versions of what I have now.  If HP makes a
"400LX",
oh, say a 386 in the same size,  I'll be first in line to
replace my
200 with out shedding a tear.  In the meantime, nobody makes
anything
that'll do what this 200 can with the same speed, convenience,
and ease
of use.
_________________________reply seperator__________

Or just improved it with a backlight and longer battery
life.

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The Windows CE list is at WindowsCE-talk@Lists.WindowsCE.com.

There are some VERY competent (and funny) developers on there but it
seems to be 70% noise in my estimation.  Those few good list members
have, however, made it worthwhile for me to stay subscribed as I watch
expectantly for the perfect machine.

The CE list is usually the first place for announcements like those for
XTCE and the new Doom-clone for CE.  If those toys interest you,
subscribe.

Larry Zimmerman


On Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:23:00 -0400 Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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>BTW: does anyone know of a WinCE only LIST/NewsGroup (other than
>conp.sys.palmtops <g> ) that we could direct people to?
>
>Thanks & Cheers!

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>> John Musielewicz wrote:
>> > Regards to all...
>> > A few weeks ago I asked If anybody new how to print to
>> > this parallel printer.....I still can't do it!
>> > Nobody seemed to know how to over here in Australia
>> > (including dealers and HP itself!..)
>> > until I found this ex HP guy who said I need a
>> > serial to parallel convertor(?box). I thought that is what
>> > connectivity pack was supposed to do. Do
>> > I need something else? If I do, does it need to be powered?
>> > If it does, does it draw power from the HP200 LX?
>
>For all of the MacNuts out there, most of the Mackitgtosh printers
>will happily print from the LX with little fiddling needed. (Just my
>0.02c worth)
>
It may be worth noting that Apple's printers are now manufactured by HP.
They are slightly modified and rebranded DeskJets and LaserJets and there
is a reasonable driver compatability. I'm bugging the folks here at work
for one of their newer, cross platform setups with the IR printing
attachments. Shouldn't be that hard to convince my HPLX to work in
conjunction with one (I hope). - srl

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Has anyone had any luck setting up and using the Relevant Backup System
(RBS) found on S.U.P.E.R.?  I have been unable to get it up and running.

Paul

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I am happily using my newly upgraded 32 meg 200LX and now I would like
to sell my Magic Ram 64 meg flash card,  one year old, to the high
bidder. It has worked flawlessly;  and it has a lifetime replacement
guarrantee from Magic Ram. I just do not need the storage space any
longer.

I paid $700.00 for it, would like to get  $400.00, but will take the
best reasonable offer.

Please reply privately to paulmed@massmed.org.

Paul

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> BTW: does anyone know of a WinCE only LIST/NewsGroup (other than
> conp.sys.palmtops <g> ) that we could direct people to?

WindowsCE-Talk.  Register for this mailing list at http://www.hpc.com.

Bill

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Hi all:

I know this is a longshot, but I am looking for a cable for an EXP
ThinFAX 1414CL (plugs into the left-hand side). I can get one for ~$30
from EXP, but that seems a little pricey.

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> I would like to sell my Magic Ram 64 meg flash card, one year old, to
> the high bidder. It has worked flawlessly;  and it has a lifetime
> replacement guarrantee from Magic Ram. I just do not need the storage
> space any longer.
>
> I paid $700.00 for it, would like to get  $400.00, but will take the
> best reasonable offer.

You can now purchase (mail-order) fast, low-power 80-MB FlashRAM cards for
about $350, brand-new.

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I can vouch for the fact that I did not have SC problems yesterday.
After the problems were mentioned on HPHAND, I deliberately closed and
restarted SC several times without problem. I know of one other person
on HPHAND who has reported not having problems with SC. The version I =
have
reports 6.86 (LHS) and 6.80 (RHS) of the SC menu screen.

(Incidentally everybody on HPHAND has mentioned the existance of two =
differing
version numbers and nobody (so far) seems to know why.)

GaryS

>    >To all Software Carousel users:
>    >Apparently, there's some sort of bug (or virus?) that afflicts
>    >Software Carousel when the date is 6-13-98.
>
> Thanks for the info!  My SC worked fine until I
> rebooted.  Then it would hang at "Software
> Carousel...Initializing". I spent over an hour trying
> to figure out what was wrong. Even restored from a
> back up copy from a few days earlier, thinking maybe
> something got corrupted.  I left it for a while, came
> back to it later (it happened to be after midnight!)
> and it worked fine!
>
> So why would only that date be affected?
>

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Steve,

What will Going Postal 2.xx cost?

karl
At 07:57 PM 6/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> OK, I must have missed something.  I have Goin' Postal 1.x on my 200lx
>> and like it though it sometimes acts up. Needless to say, I was happy to
>> see many of you folks with tag lines showing Goin' Postal 2.x and some
>> not saying beta. So I went looking for it... I found 1.06 all over the
>> place but no higher. Could someone let the preacher in on it and point
>> me in the right direction?
>
>Goin' Postal version 2.13 is currently in the hands of all registered
>users.  Barring any bug reports it will probably be released tuesday
>night.  When I update the page I'll post a notice to the list.
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14h17m56s ago ...
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> To all Software Carousel users:
>
> Apparently, there's some sort of bug (or virus?) that afflicts Software
> Carousel when the date is 6-13-98.

Yep! I didn't notice it yesterday because I spent the whole catering a
friends wedding (ever make 75 omlettes in a row?). I just reset the
date and reboot...SC would not initialize...set it to 6-14...everything
was OK.

Cheers,

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Gary Spiers wrote:
>
> I can vouch for the fact that I did not have SC problems yesterday.
> After the problems were mentioned on HPHAND, I deliberately closed and
> restarted SC several times without problem. I know of one other person
> on HPHAND who has reported not having problems with SC. The version I have
> reports 6.86 (LHS) and 6.80 (RHS) of the SC menu screen.

That's odd.  You're the first person who has reported having NO trouble.
What is the configuration (speed, internal RAM drive) of your LX?

> (Incidentally everybody on HPHAND has mentioned the existance of two differing
> version numbers and nobody (so far) seems to know why.)

Same here.  6.86 and 6.80.
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:57:15 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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01h12m23s ago ...
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Gary Spiers wrote:

> ... The version I have reports 6.86 (LHS) and 6.80 (RHS) of the SC
> menu screen.

My version which has the problem 6.91(lhs) 6.80(rhs)

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:11:54 -0700
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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Same here.  6.86 and 6.80.

I was wrong; mine says 6.91 and 6.80.
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:51:35 -0700
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Folks:
  I'm in the market for a 10MB flash memory card.  I'm a complete
newbie to the HP200lx, and want to get atarted out on the right
foot.
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:16:41 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Comments: To: kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM
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> What will Going Postal 2.xx cost?

As with 1.X, lifetime registration is still $29.  Registration is good
for current and all future versions.  When 2.X is released I plan on
sending out a complimentary updated manual to all current 1.X registered
users.

Some of you might have noticed the 'beta' reappearing on 2.14.  I added
what I think is a very useful feature to the headers-only filter, and
decided the way I deleted messages from the folders should be changed
now rather than V3.  Thus, with a couple major changes added I figured it
was best to go back into beta for a week or so.  I'm hoping the new
changes will not cause any new problems, but they were major enough
to justify dropping back to beta.

Sorry this release is taking so long, I can't begin to tell you how
different it is from V1.  I'm trying to polish this release to a high
gloss :-)  Maybe someone who's testing 2.14beta can post their feelings
on how it compares to version 1.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:25:26 -0500
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On 06-12 06:20pm, had been written:

# The Windows CE list is at WindowsCE-talk@Lists.WindowsCE.com.
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Al

Here's some hope; I'm still looking.

yor pal al...................

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:20:18 -0700
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John:
  Thanks for your message.  I have had two other persons get back to
me, but no price yet.  I wonder, how much would you want, after
you make the card available in a few weeks?


John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Folks:
>   I'm in the market for a 10MB flash memory card.  I'm a
> complete
> newbie to the HP200lx, and want to get atarted out on the
> right
> foot.
> --
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>
> ____________________reply seperator_______________
>
> I am getting a new flash card (32 mb) so if you want to
> wait a couple weeks until I get it I'll have a perfectly
> good viking 10 mb flash card for sale. I use it in my 200LX
> and I've never had a problem with it. Never even had to
> format it it came formatted and all I had to do is plug it
> in and start using it. Let me know.
>
> John
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:24:45 -0700
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I'll see what I can do with getting WWWMenu to work with WWW/LX Plus 2.0.

As far as CIC200 goes, download LXCIC from SUPER.  It's Stefan Peichl's
equivalent, except that it actually works with all modems and includes a
wide variety of handy features, not the least of which is its ability to
run in non-resident mode!

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:40:20 -0700
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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:33:53 -0400, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
wrote:


> I will have access to a 100LX later this week, so I'll test it then.
>
> I don't have tha manual in front of me now, but I believe the specs on
> my new 8mB "VersaCard" say compatible w/ 100 & 200LX. Don't see why the
> SanDisk would be any diferent.


FYI
The 8MB VersaCard wont work in the 100LX without the acecard.com driver.
Even though the VersaCard's users guide says its compatible w/ 100LX.



Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:45:56 -0700
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Hi, Brian:
>
Shore Systems www.shoresystems.net has new CF16MB cards avbl for $119
including shipping. VISA/MC ok, or US checks.
>
Bernie Torbik

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John:
  Thanks for your message.  I have had two other persons get back to
me, but no price yet.  I wonder, how much would you want, after
you make the card available in a few weeks?


John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Folks:
>   I'm in the market for a 10MB flash memory card.  I'm a
> complete
> newbie to the HP200lx, and want to get atarted out on the
> right
> foot.
> --
> Brian Kassel W5VBO
> ARCI # 3623
> Phoenix AZ ScQRPions
>
> ____________________reply seperator_______________
>
> I am getting a new flash card (32 mb) so if you want to
> wait a couple weeks until I get it I'll have a perfectly
> good viking 10 mb flash card for sale. I use it in my 200LX
> and I've never had a problem with it. Never even had to
> format it it came formatted and all I had to do is plug it
> in and start using it. Let me know.
>
> John
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:50:39 -0400
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For sale

US Robotics 56k X2 pcmcia modem
Xjack
Flash upgradeable

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:08:56 EDT
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In a message dated 98-06-13 05:35:35 EDT,Brian wrote:

<<
 I have a 512 sram card HP F1003A and it works fine in the 100 xl but I can't
 get the 95xl to notice it.
  >>

Very strange.  I have that exact SRAM card.  It has worked just fine in my
95lx for the last 5 years.

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:18:49 -0400
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Gary -

> I can vouch for the fact that I did not have SC problems yesterday.
> After the problems were mentioned on HPHAND, I deliberately closed and
> restarted SC several times without problem. I know of one other person
> on HPHAND who has reported not having problems with SC. The version I have
> reports 6.86 (LHS) and 6.80 (RHS) of the SC menu screen.

Mine says 6.92 and 6.80, and I, too, had no problem yesterday....

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:19:55 -0400
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I just tried the Viking 33.6k modem in my single speed
200LX and it seemed to work well. It is rated at 144mA full
power and 13mA sleep.

All I had to do was plug it in and change the baud rate in
CCmail to 19200 (as high as it would go) and it dialed up and downloaded=
 mail from
palmtop.com with no problems. The fastest I was able to go
with my EXP 14.4k was 9.6k

Next I used LXTCP to dial my local ISP. I set the rate at
33.6k and was able to connect at 38.4k. At first it would
connect fine but fail to load the packet driver then say
failure to read drive a. I had to plug in the AC adapter
and then when I connected the packet driver loaded fine and
it doanloaded my mail just fine.
I lowered the baud rate in increments and when I got to
19.2k I stpped having problems when on battery power. I had
a used pair of lithiums installed. ABC/LX said the voltage
was at 2.62 volts.

I think this modem will work pretty well for me. At high
speeds though I will have to use the AC adapter. At 95
dollars from Computer City it is a bargin.

John

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:24:31 -0400
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> > I can vouch for the fact that I did not have SC problems yesterday.
> > After the problems were mentioned on HPHAND, I deliberately closed and
> > restarted SC several times without problem. I know of one other person
> > on HPHAND who has reported not having problems with SC. The version I have
> > reports 6.86 (LHS) and 6.80 (RHS) of the SC menu screen.
>
> Mine says 6.92 and 6.80, and I, too, had no problem yesterday....

Whoops!

I just reset the date to yesterday and rebooted, and locked up during SC
startup.

I wonder if the distributed SC has a virus (wasn't it the Michelangelo
virus that related to the 13th?) that can't do very much because the OS is
in ROM?

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:50:33 +0200
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              Georg Mittenecker <Georg.Mittenecker@TUWIEN.AC.AT>
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Hi HP-LX users,

while I asked about a possibility for restoring my corrupted appointment
book file, I was told to use GARLIC.EXE (many thanks to Stefan Peichl
and Daniel Ginsberg) - but as I just downloaded the utility and read the
dox (I rarely do that kind of things) and found the upper case line
"GARLIC WILL NOT WORK ON PASSWORDED FILES." You guess what4s my
problem...

Do you know about a newer version than Version 1.1 (1994?), working with

password protected files (and how could I get it)? Is there any other
tool, that can convert password protected files? Do you have the
source code or at least some documentation on how to convert such
database files (especially the problem of the password encryption will
be the problem...). Of course I know my Password!

It is really sad to see my little machine decode 99 % of the rather
large file, and than saying "dataset corrupted" or something like that -

closing the file without any further attempts... - I am sure, only the
very last entry was corrupted while the battery failed!

Thanks a lot for any help!!

    Georg Mittenecker

P.S.: I just tried to mail Andy Gryc (andyg@hpcvra.cv.hp.com) who signed
the Garlic Readme-File - but he is not reachable by this mail adress
(mail was returned). Do you have a working mail adress?

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Hi David and everybody in the list,

I experimented the problem with Software Carousel reported by David.

When the system froze at "Software Carousel . . . Initializing" I
tried to reboot but I could only with ctrl-shift-on, then I chose to
reboot from d: drive in order to enter Sysmgr without Carousel and
make some modifications. When I entered Sysmgr I decided not to try
any modification but to reboot again (this time with ctrl-alt-del):
the system started correctly and didn't freeze any more.

The version of my Carousel is 6.80, I run it with a Hp200 8Meg double
speed, I use a permanent c: file of about 2.2 Mbytes.

I really hope this is "only" a bug and NOT a virus!

Bye, Paolo

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:06:44 -0700
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Update on current status:
=========================

I have one complete set of Lotus Agenda 2.0 DOS.  In the
box, with all paperwork
==========
Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
error messages, so forth

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Macros" (7x9) slim, paperbound,
index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Definition files" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Setting up Agenda" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index, (chap 4 is 67 pages titled Printer specifications"

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Starter Applications" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Quick Start" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

1 set of 5.25 Diskettes (original)

=============================
Up for sale to the highest bidder. Current high bid is $85.00
However current high bidder is Geoffrey Orth <gcorth@mosquitonet.com>,
He just went out on a fishing boat till 7/23.  To make sure
he stays high bidder he said he would beat any bid by $10.00 and set a cap
of $150.00 So bidding will probably sit at $85.00 til he comes back and
confirms or decides not to go through with it.

 ======================================================
besides the complete set I  have 2 copies of

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
error messages, so forth
----------------
1 copy of
Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Macros" (7x9) slim, paperbound,
index,
-------------------
1 copy of
Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Quick Start" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,
-----------------
1 copy of
Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Starter Applications" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

========================

My snailmail address is
Patrick West
2222 N.E. Wasco St.
Portland, Or. 97232-1621

Phone
503-284-5159 (Wasco Terrace Apartments, Which my wife manages)
503-284-3608 Personal line
503-284-6549 fax line.

Make me an offer on any or all.  I'm going with high bid.  Offer cold be
cash or trade.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Whoops!
>
> I just reset the date to yesterday and rebooted, and locked up during SC
> startup.
>
> I wonder if the distributed SC has a virus (wasn't it the Michelangelo
> virus that related to the 13th?) that can't do very much because the OS is
> in ROM?

If there is a virus, it's nothing detectable by Norton Antivirus 4.0 for
Win95, with the latest updates...

Does anybody know if Thaddeus, who recently acquired the rights to
Software Carousel, also got the source code?

If so, they should be able to determine if it's a virus or a bug...
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Try the application to remove passwords on S.U.P.E.R. and then run GARLIC.
Do this on a COPY, of course, as you could end up making a bad situation
worse.

>Hi HP-LX users,
>
>while I asked about a possibility for restoring my corrupted appointment
>book file, I was told to use GARLIC.EXE (many thanks to Stefan Peichl
>and Daniel Ginsberg) - but as I just downloaded the utility and read the
>dox (I rarely do that kind of things) and found the upper case line
>"GARLIC WILL NOT WORK ON PASSWORDED FILES." You guess what4s my
>problem...
>
>Do you know about a newer version than Version 1.1 (1994?), working with
>
>password protected files (and how could I get it)? Is there any other
>tool, that can convert password protected files? Do you have the
>source code or at least some documentation on how to convert such
>database files (especially the problem of the password encryption will
>be the problem...). Of course I know my Password!
>
>It is really sad to see my little machine decode 99 % of the rather
>large file, and than saying "dataset corrupted" or something like that -
>
>closing the file without any further attempts... - I am sure, only the
>very last entry was corrupted while the battery failed!
>
>Thanks a lot for any help!!
>
>    Georg Mittenecker

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I think emulators are doomed to painfull slowness.  A translator might work.
Aparently DEC (now Compaq) Pentium Translator for thier Alpha works pretty
well.  Any experience out there?

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:57:52 +0200
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Hi Samuel,

> Try the application to remove passwords on S.U.P.E.R. and then run GARLIC.
> Do this on a COPY, of course, as you could end up making a bad situation
> worse.

thank you for your comment - but I only found "HPCRACK (8 K) added 12/02/97 -
Version 1.0 by Jan Brands" in the S.U.P.E.R. Site - this utility may find out
my password (which I DO know!), but does not decode my (corrupted) file into a
non password protected format (I just browsed the source code).

Any other ideas?

Many thanks
    Georg

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Hi
Who was the Frenchman in Paris with a LX
to Sell?  Is it still available?

Leave particulars and home contact.

Yor pal al .....................

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Subject:      Re: BUG IN SOFTWARE CAROUSEL!

Tinkering with this CAROOUSEL I though I didn't
know what I was doing.  Yes, I had the problem V6.80.

What does LHS and RHS stand for I didn't see that....

yor pal al...............

I can vouch for the fact that I did not have SC
problems yesterday. After the problems were
mentioned on HPHAND, I deliberately closed and
restarted SC several times without problem. I
know of one other person on HPHAND who has
reported not having problems with SC. The
version I have reports 6.86 (LHS) and 6.80
(RHS) of the SC menu screen.

Mine says 6.92 and 6.80, and I, too, had no
problem yesterday....


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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> I do have to say that TDREMOTE works very well with the palmtop
> across the HP serial cable, at least with BC++ 3.1
>
> Of course, that's not doing development right on the HP, but
> on a laptop and debugging the running program on the HP.

Thanks for that info.  I've wondered if that would work and I've
considered trying it a time or two when I really had a difficult
problem to find.  But it always seemed easier to move it to my laptop
or PC and debug it there, than to setup the remote debugger, which
I've never used.

Maybe I will give it a try though.  There are times when it might make
life a little easier.

I wonder if TC2.0's remote debugger might work from another 200lx even.
I guess I'll do some experimenting.

Barry

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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:

> Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with a
> file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?

There are 3 Forth's for the lx computers that I know of.  The first was
called Util and was written for the 95lx.  I've heard it was pretty
buggy but I haven't actually ever seen it.

There's a version of Mini-Forth that I modified with the author's
permission and source code.  I added support for most of the lx features
I know how to control at that time.  I also added support for both 95lx
and 100lx graphics.  That includes access to a lot of the internal rom
graphics routines.  It also included words for some of the lx specific
interrupts.  There isnt any documentation except the blurb that comes
with it and the original mini-forth documentation, but there is a help
command that gives all the new words and their stack diagrams.  It's
available on CIS.

The best Forth for the lx computers, IMHO, is the one done by Victor
Roberts from Pygmy Forth.  I can't remember what he called it but something
like Pygmy100 or Forth100.  It's also on CIS but I've seen it on some
Forth sites as well.

He's modified the editor to fit the 64x18 screen nicely and added support
for a lot of hp stuff.  He's also a Forth programmer (and I'm not) so he
had a good feeling for what features to add and how best to add them.

Util was commercial and pretty expensive.  The others are all freeware.

By the way, I've tried out probably over a dozen 16 bit Forth's on the lx
to see if they would work and they all did.

Barry

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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:

> Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with a
> file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?

I just realized you said "app manager".  The only compliant Forth that I
know of is Util.  The others are all Dos programs.  I'm not sure about
the modified Pygmy Forth but I think I made sure that the lx Mini-Forth
would work from within the app manager.  But it's been a while and I'm not
really sure.

Barry

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Subject:      HP100/200lx emulator

     I use DOS/3.11/NT and cpack100 to backup and move files from & to my
     100lx. Is there an emulation prog that will duplicate the 100lx
     functions under DOS/3.11/NT? I already run the appt book & phone book.
     I want to setup macros to update the phone book by editing the area
     codes in one operation. All the area codes are  splitting up so I do a
     subset of the area code affected then set up a chained macro to change
     the data. I'd like to run this on my pentium under NT(or 486/3.11) for
     the speed. Any Ideas?

     TIA

     Joe Buford

     jebuford@mail.hac.com

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:39:29 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX appointment book corrupted
Comments: To: Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>

On Sunday, June 14, 1998 6:17 PM, Samuel Lightcap ÝSMTP:Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU¨ wrote:
> Try the application to remove passwords on S.U.P.E.R. and then run GARLIC.
> Do this on a COPY, of course, as you could end up making a bad situation
> worse.

  Half right...  Performing any and all attempts to recover the file on a -copy- of said file is a very good idea.

  The wrong part... There is no pasword remover on SUPER.  Only a password detector...
  You need to be able to open the file using the password to be able to remove said password...

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:31:06 -0500
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I have two questions:

1) Now that I have a 32MB HP200, I don't really need the 20MB flash card
   in the slot (NO, it is not for sale!).  What I am wondering is if there
   is a way to turn it off like you can for a modem card?  The system seems
   to start up a bit faster with the card out but I would like it to be
   easily available when I need it.

2) Does anyone know where to get a "Ripoff" pouch now that Educalc is no
   more?  I would like to get some more but I don't know where to find
   them.

Thanks.

jaime
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Subject:      Starting program from daily greeting?

Hi all

Is there any way to start a program once per day when the machine is first
turned on?

As you know the daily greeting comes on once per day when you turn the HPLX
on.. Is there a way to start a backup prog?

I know about in Appointment at a certain time.. That did not work for me..

I used to run a Macro backup prog.. I found if I left a dos session open or
the flash disk was too full to allow completion the macro would keep the LX
"awake" and I lost data several times..Prudence dictates that I find another
way..

If I am doing something wrong and there is error codes or something that I
can put in a timed Macro please advise me if you can.

Has anybody solved this? Any other way to run on startup?

Regards

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Jaime Viehweg wrote:
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Now that I have a 32MB HP200, I don't really need the 20MB flash card
>    in the slot (NO, it is not for sale!).  What I am wondering is if there
>    is a way to turn it off like you can for a modem card?  The system seems
>    to start up a bit faster with the card out but I would like it to be
>    easily available when I need it.

You might be able to power it down using Stefan Peichl's LXCIC utility on
SUPER.  It has the ability to power-down modems and flash cards that
support this feature.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, bamcilvaine wrote:

> I know I've probably read the answer to this at least twice, but I'll ask
> anyway... I just bough a two year old Dell laptop for 20% of orginal price (Now
> that's depreciation) and want to be able to access my HP Flashdisk... where can
> I get the drivers to make the PCMCIA slot work?

I bought a Dell laptop used that was about 2 years old, and it worked just
fine with the drivers that came with it and the Sandisk flash cards I use
on my 200lx.

Unfortunately, the laptop turned out to have been stolen and I had to give
it up.  I did get my money back.  It was a nice machine.

Barry

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Subject:      Re: Modem: No connection - burning wrong incense ??
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If I remember right, a config.sys or autoexec.bat on A: has precidence
over one on C:.  You might see if there's one on A:.

Barry

On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Earl T. Benson wrote:

> Thanks for trying to help me out.
>
> Using the 200lx memo editor, I opened the autexec.bat file that is located on
> my C drive and found the following line:
>
> d:\bin\cic100 /gen1 (no rem in front of it)
>
> It looks like the autoexec.bat file on the C drive has the proper instruction
> line.
>
> Can you think of anything else I might try?  Still no luck.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Earl Benson
>
> **************************************************************
>
> Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> > Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> > 11h43m39s ago ...
> > On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Earl T. Benson wrote:
> >
> > > (By the way, is Smart Modular
> > > Technologies still in business or did they get swallowed up by someone?)
> >
> > Last I heard, Smart Modular is now Apex.
> >
> > > Here's the set up:
> > >
> > > 1.  The card is set up as drive G.
> > > 2.  The G drive has an autoexec.bat and a config.sys file on it.  The
> > > autoexec.bat file has the line G:\>D:\BIN\CIC100 /GEN 1 which I
> > > understand from my User's Guide is necessary to run a modem.
> >
> > I think that's the problem.  The palmtop searches the drives in
> > alphabetical order (Starting with A: if it exists) for the startup
> > files, and uses the first ones it finds.  If you also have a
> > config,sys and autoexec.bat on C: it will use those, otherwise it'll
> > use the ones on ROM drive D:  It'll never get to the startup files on
> > G:
> >
> > BTW - why does the line in autoexec.bat include the DOS prompt?
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -PR
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:26:19 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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Hello jaime

> 2) Does anyone know where to get a "Ripoff" pouch now that Educalc is no
>    more?  I would like to get some more but I don't know where to find
>    them.

I want to know that too. I bought mine form Educalc, but
I need one more. It is one of the best case for a LX.

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> 2) Does anyone know where to get a "Ripoff" pouch now that Educalc is no
>    more?  I would like to get some more but I don't know where to find
>    them.

Galls in Lexington, KY carries a complete line of Ripoffs:

http://www.gallsinc.com/

Mitch
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 20:42:27 -0500
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Steve, I don't think there is _any_ comparison to version 1.0 vs 2.x, other
than the fact that they both send and receive email via a PPP connection on
an HPLX :) The ability to download headers only and the ability to apply
filters to mail on the POP server is awesome. The ability to filter the spam
mail to oblivion is a Godsend!

Jeff


    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
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    |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:47:48 GMT
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> What does LHS and RHS stand for I didn't see that....
>
Left hand side & right hand side (of the screen).

I should mention that I was an early adopter (unofficial beta tester)
of SC for the palmtop and went through many mods to the files as
Sunshine fixed the bugs we pioneers found. It is possible I have a
hybrid combination of SC files that was never officially distributed.
In fact considering that most people report a 6.90/6.80 version
combination rather than my 6.86/6.80 combination this seems to be
highly likely.

The other person on HPHAND that reported no problems was also in the
early adopter group - OTOH other members of that group are seeing this
problem. A further HPHAND member has identified not having any
problems. The breakdown so far looks like this:

Problems reported           No problem reported
  6.90/6.80                     6.86/6.80
  6.92/6.80                     6.89/6.80
  6.80 (Paulo do you have       6.92/6.80
  the other version no?)

Perhaps people can add to this list - I know the version 7 beta testers
saw the bug but do not know the exact serial number there. I will cross
post to HPHAND. Hal Goldstein (who does not own the source code only
distribution rights) has contacted Ed Tolson (SC author) concerning this
problem.

Finally to answer David's question, my palmtop is a DS 32+1MB 200LX
with a 3MB permanent SC swap file on the C drive.

GaryS

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:06:17 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Found a nice English -> Chinese date conversion program which run on my LX,
thought someone in this list might be interested.

Here is the program spec.

software: DateStar - Chinese Calendar Producer
version : 1.1
ftp site: ifcss.orgÝ129.107.1.155¨:/software/dos/misc
filename: datestar.doc datestar.zip.
author  : Youzhen Cheng <youzhen@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU>
comment : MS-DOS 2.0 and above
function: Displays Chinese and western calendar in
          ASCII code, BIG-5 code (Hongkong, Taiwan),
              GuoBiao code (PRC Standard), and HZ code (Network)
          Prints on two most popular laser printers
              PostScript laser printers, and
              HP LaserJet (PCL) printers
          Generates four different format
              Yearly calendar, Monthly calendar,
              One-page Weekly calendar, and Two-page Weekly calendar
          Shows calendar with 24 Solar Terms (JieQi),
              the Heavenly Stems and Earthly Branches
              (TianGan DiZhi Eight Characters)
          Supports user defined annotations
          Applicable from year 1841 through to 2060

Cheers.

jien hung

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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:30:29 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:03:31 -0400 (EDT)

01h57m03s ago ...
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, barrym wrote:

> The best Forth for the lx computers, IMHO, is the one done by Victor
> Roberts from Pygmy Forth.  I can't remember what he called it but =
something
> like Pygmy100 or Forth100.  It's also on CIS but I've seen it on some
> Forth sites as well.

I know about, and have used 100Pygmy, the version of pygmy modified by
Dr. Robert Williams.  This sounds like the same thing.  Are you sure
about the Vic Roberts version?

-PR
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David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> said:
>>Apparently, there's some sort of bug (or virus?) that afflicts
>>Software Carousel when the date is 6-13-98.

I've used SC for a long time and have had the exact same Ýfreeze at "Software
Carousel . . . Initializing"¨ problem twice I think with , but not on 13 Jun
98. Strangely, I had absolutely no problem on the day. ????

Every time it happened, I went back to my PC with my backup copy and copied
over everything again (just copied the backed up directory, not reinstall),
then it worked fine. Can't remember if I did it all on the same day though.

But thanks, the next time this happens, I'll try changing the date. Never
thought of that at all.

jasonyap

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:42:38 GMT
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This is getting off topic but any opportunity to beat the drum for
Alpha will be taken:-)

I have a first generation Alpha desktop dual bootable to Linux or NT4.
DECs FX32! translator for X86 binaries under NT is not your average
translator - it looks at, dissassembles and REWRITES the application
code to optimise it for Alpha. This means that an application can
start out with poor performance and then improve considerably with
time. I have had no problems with running most of my apps - some
compilers will not run under the emulator.

A few other Alpha related notes:

Some Alphas use a TGA graphics board - TGA will support the CPACK in a
window and will permit multiple instances of the CPACK applications to
be run<GGG>

If you have floating point intensive tasks then Alpha is the cheapest
MIPS you can buy - Intel just isn't in the race and the cost
differential is minimal to nonexistant.

GaryS

Linux on Alpha - The choice of a GNU generation

> I think emulators are doomed to painfull slowness.  A translator might =
work.
> Aparently DEC (now Compaq) Pentium Translator for thier Alpha works =
pretty
> well.  Any experience out there?
>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:21:27 GMT
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: BUG IN SOFTWARE CAROUSEL! (and maybe also in PkZip)

I can confirm the same problem on a T2T double speed 32MB 200LX
with a 1312K expanded RAM pool (via tremm) with SC versions
6.90(lhs)/6.80 (rhs).  I also re-initialised everything and did
a restore from backup *three* times before realising that the
problem only re-occurred _after_ resetting the date back to 13
Jun 1998 - Australian time, so it happened to me the day
before everyone else :-).

An even more worrying thing was that my 10MB backup.zip file
from my 32MB internal drive (which I store on a flash card) had
at least 10 corrupted files in it.  I used to use the
following commands with lxbackup (one for a monthly full
backup, the other one for a daily incremental backup):

  pkzip -a+ -p -r backup.zip c:\*.*
  pkzip -i -p -r backup.zip c:\*.*

I now add the "-+" and "-(" switches and haven't had any more
corrupted files in the backup.zip file, although it's only
been two days since I added the extra switches.

The worst thing was that this all happened the day before I
was to leave on a two week overseas business trip (the time
when I need my 200LX most for staying in touch with LXTCP and
PNR).

So if you think you're doing backups with PkZip, then just
test your backup.zip file with pkunzip -t to make sure that
the same thing is not happening to you.

Once I get back home (and close to backups on Unix machines),
then I'll investigate a bit more to see if I can reproduce the
problem more than the two times that I saw it two days ago.

BTW, how come everyone else has a newer version of SC than I
do ?

>> To all Software Carousel users:
>> Apparently, there's some sort of bug (or virus?) that afflicts
>> Software Carousel when the date is 6-13-98.
>
> Thanks for the info!  My SC worked fine until I
> rebooted.  Then it would hang at "Software
> Carousel...Initializing". I spent over an hour trying
> to figure out what was wrong. Even restored from a
> back up copy from a few days earlier, thinking maybe
> something got corrupted.

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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:23:52 -0400
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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Hello

Can a system macro be set up that will work in a dos
program? Thanks.

John

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:13:52 -0400
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I've just been running around the web re-viewing a variety of palmtop
sites.

Did anyone know that there is an EXP cellular-ready 33k6 PCMCIA modem with
an accessory battery pack (looks like about 1" by 1" by 4")?

90 minutes on 2 AA's. $199 MSRP

And the ThinFax 336 LXM 8MB for $329 (they mention, but don't list, the
ThinFax 336 LXM 16MB), cellular-ready, with the same battery pack.

There is also a Thinfax 336 for $85 (no RAM or battery pack), but I can't
find info about power usage.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:05:12 -0400
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I posted this to alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp, but as I got no response
there, I will try (again) to post here.  Sorry for the duplication
(fwiw, I tried posting here first, but listserv's anal-retentiveness
bit me)

Thanks
Clark

> Subject: Lost data in 200LX appt notes
> From: cgaylord@cns.vt.edu
> Date: 1998/06/10
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
>
> Twice yesterday I lost data from the notes field of appts.  I was using the
> notes field of the appt to keep notes of the meeting, and when I came back
> later in the day they were GONE.  Now, I am saving to files, but has anyone
> seen this problem, and is there anything I need to do to make sure the data
> stay safe?
>
> FWIW, this is on a 200LX 1MB, no flash.
>
> Thank you.
> Clark Gaylord
>
> --
> Clark Gaylord
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> Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0506
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:04:59 -0400
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Mitch,

Thank you very much for the information!!

Regards,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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> > 2) Does anyone know where to get a "Ripoff" pouch now that Educalc is
no
> >    more?  I would like to get some more but I don't know where to find
> >    them.
>
> Galls in Lexington, KY carries a complete line of Ripoffs:
>
> http://www.gallsinc.com/
>
> Mitch
> S.U.P.E.R. Team
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> Perhaps I have missed something along the discussion, but I cannot get =
thi
> program to work on my 200lx 1mb... I have tried both the rc.exm (older) =
an
> remcom.exm (v1.09) from app mgr but -- the error message I get is =
"Error
> Opening Application: Cannot find application to open."  I have tried it =
fr
> ramdisk and from flash, with no other apps open.  halp?
>
I have a 1meg 200lx, and Remcom works fine. It is real easy to set up, =
and I
can only think that you have not specified the correct path or filemane =
in
the app manager. There is an Icon for remcom that will appear automaticall=
y
if you specify everything right. Hope that helps.

Daaren.

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Hello To Whom It May Concern,

About a week ago I became embarrassingly aware that my mail server was
having problems, probably intermittent, preventing me from receiving
some mail.  Unfortunately it is not obvious exactly when this occurred
nor how much mail has been involved, the situation being beyond my
control.  The only hope is that the sender(s) may have been notified
that their mail could not be delivered.

Over the last few weeks I have sent several messages to the Mailing
List and to individuals but it is also possible that my mail  has not
been regularly dispatched.

If anyone has responded to an initial message from me without getting
a reply in return and is still looking for a reply and has enough
patience to repeat the message, I shall deal with the matter ASAP.  It
now seems that the mail problem has been rectified.

I am sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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I have version 6.88/6.80 and it drove me crazy yesterday trying to find out
what was wrong.  I reinstalled everything but nothing worked until I put a
fresh set of batteries in and it worked fine.  (What I did not realize until
I read the list today was that the fresh set was put in just after midnight
and that is why it started working, it not the new batteries.)

Larry

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:34:42 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Soory, should have check out the ftp link first, please try the following
link instead
http://cnapps.ifcss.org/doscal.html

For more info of Chinese conversion, please go to
http://cgibin.erols.com/eepeter/

Cheers.


At 10:06 AM 6/15/98 +0800, had wrote:
>Found a nice English -> Chinese date conversion program which run on my LX,
>thought someone in this list might be interested.
>
>Here is the program spec.
>
>software: DateStar - Chinese Calendar Producer
>version : 1.1
>ftp site: ifcss.orgÝ129.107.1.155¨:/software/dos/misc
>filename: datestar.doc datestar.zip.
>author  : Youzhen Cheng <youzhen@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU>
>comment : MS-DOS 2.0 and above
>function: Displays Chinese and western calendar in
>          ASCII code, BIG-5 code (Hongkong, Taiwan),
>              GuoBiao code (PRC Standard), and HZ code (Network)
>          Prints on two most popular laser printers
>              PostScript laser printers, and
>              HP LaserJet (PCL) printers
>          Generates four different format
>              Yearly calendar, Monthly calendar,
>              One-page Weekly calendar, and Two-page Weekly calendar
>          Shows calendar with 24 Solar Terms (JieQi),
>              the Heavenly Stems and Earthly Branches
>              (TianGan DiZhi Eight Characters)
>          Supports user defined annotations
>          Applicable from year 1841 through to 2060
>
>Cheers.
>
>jien hung
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:07:54 -0700
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Hi guys,

Okay, so Visual Basic and OLE Automation aren't that hard to learn. I've
managed to write a tiny little test program that dumps outlook calendar info
into a text box. From here on out, it should be just a simple matter of
programming... :-)

- Joe

Option Explicit

Private Sub print_2(s As String)
    RichTextBox2.Text = RichTextBox2.Text + s + Chr$(13) + Chr$(10)
End Sub

Private Sub Command1_Click()
    Dim outlook As outlook.Application
    Dim namespace As outlook.namespace
    Dim calendar As outlook.MAPIFolder
    Dim appt As AppointmentItem
    Dim i As Integer

    Set outlook = CreateObject("outlook.application")
    Set namespace = outlook.GetNamespace("MAPI")
    Set calendar = namespace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderCalendar)
'   For i = 1 To calendar.Items.Count
    For i = 1 To 10
        Set appt = calendar.Items(i)
        print_2 ("=== appt #" + Str$(i) + " of " +
Str$(calendar.Items.Count))
        print_2 ("subject  = " + appt.Subject)
        print_2 ("start    = " + Str$(appt.Start))
        print_2 ("end      = " + Str$(appt.End))
    Next i
End Sub

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> >additional field in the HPLX users directory on Palmtop.net?

> BTW, how does one get ON the directory?


hmm,  I second the question, I didn't even know there was a directory.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:01:18 -0700
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> On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:
>
> Thanks for that info.  I've wondered if that would work and I've
> considered trying it a time or two when I really had a difficult
> problem to find.  But it always seemed easier to move it to my laptop
> or PC and debug it there, than to setup the remote debugger, which
> I've never used.

It's great if you have LX specific calls.  It's a breeze to setup, if
I remember, on the palmtop you type:

   tdremote -rs2

Then, on the laptop you type:

   td -rs2 (programname)

With the connectivity pack cable hooked up, the laptop will tell you
the version on the palmtop is old or missing, then allow you to load
it to the palmtop.  Only one thing to remember:  Ctrlc-Break the palmtop
*before* you exit TD on the laptop.  If you do it the other way around,
the palmtop will need a Ctrl-Lshit-On reboot.

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LXCIC's feature to power down a card is not restricted to
modem cards. You may use it with every other card, if the
card supports power down.

However, if you use LXCIC as a TSR, only modem cards are
powerded down automatically, because the TSR code is only
run through for modem cards. That is, if you run LXCIC in
TSR mode and want to power down a flash card, you have to
do it from the command line with LXCIC/O

My 10MB SunDisk flash card powers down by itsself a few
seconds after accessing it. So there is no need to do it
with LXCIC. To find out, how your flash card behaves, you
may use LXCIC/S to monitor the power status of a plug in
card. Call it from time to time, and see if your card also
powers down by itself.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:54:02 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Nagasawa san
What is a RIP OFF pouch?

I do have a 99% new leather pouch for
the belt. It carries the LX horizontally.

Hello the Frenchman with the LX, you
know who you are. Is it still available?

Yor ami al .....................

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:58:29 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              98 10:20:30 am
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I recall a few months back that there was a ready supply of 14.4 PCMCIA
modems at a quite reasonable price ($25-$50).  Does anyone remember this?
Can I get them still?

-Chris

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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Bernard Torbik wrote:

> Guess what? The 620 *IS* $699. As for not considering CE, well, one of these
> days you'll realize that there are plenty of reasons, not the least of which
> is a world of applications you are obviously ignorant about.

I'm also ignorant about the apps for Win CE but I do have a good idea of
the number of programs for the 200lx.  I have no way to compare but I'd be
surprised if the number of 200lx apps wasnt hundreds of times greater than
the number for CE, and I wouldnt be surprised if there were thousands
more.

Dos has been around for a long time and as of 1 year ago PC Magazine
said that there were still more Dos apps being produced than windows
apps.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:45:11 -0500
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> Yes, MASM and TASM accept the same syntax (more or less), but they are
> certainly not identical. MASM demands much more RAM and is far slower -
> something you of course will not notice on a Pentium. TASM is - like all
> Borlands languages - nice, fast and compact. I would not consider MASM
> for the LX.

I always do my programming from Dos, so memory isn't a consideration.
And I don't do large programs in asm.  I have Turbo c 2.0 on board for
that.  Tasm is faster but with a small program there's not much difference.
Not noticable if you're not looking for it.  Also Tasm is a little
larger than Masm and Tlink is a lot larger than Link.  On my 95lx when
I got my first 2 meg sram card I used Tasm and Microsoft Link.

> Yes, unfortunately. You can overcome that by making conditional
> compilation, and replace the calls to the graphic functions with calls
> that print the values to screen. I agree that this solution is not
> ideal but it works. Turbo Debugger and CodeView do not support symbolic
> labels for COM files which is one of the reasons I dropped TASM despite
> having to translate all my library stuff and some larg'ish programs to
> A86.

That doesn't make d86 work in graphics mode.  It just lets you debug
without it.  But it's a lot more work that way.  I'd suggest trying Symdeb
for debugging.  It's symbolic and will work well with Tasm or Masm.  It
also will let you do something that resembles but actually isn't, source
level debugging of C.  It's worth having.  It even handles switching to
and from graphics modes (CGA,not HP) at breakpoints, and lets you look
at the graphics screen if you want to.

I've written a small program that will convert the A86 map xref file to
a Masm-like map file so that you can use Symdeb symbolically with A86 too.

Barry


> One irritating thing is that A86 does not support STRUC very well so you
> will have to work around that.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:51:54 +0200
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Hello,

maybe You know where can I get Turbo C ++ ?

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, barrym wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> > Yes, MASM and TASM accept the same syntax (more or less), but they are
> > certainly not identical. MASM demands much more RAM and is far slower -
> > something you of course will not notice on a Pentium. TASM is - like all
> > Borlands languages - nice, fast and compact. I would not consider MASM
> > for the LX.
>
> I always do my programming from Dos, so memory isn't a consideration.
> And I don't do large programs in asm.  I have Turbo c 2.0 on board for
> that.  Tasm is faster but with a small program there's not much difference.
> Not noticable if you're not looking for it.  Also Tasm is a little
> larger than Masm and Tlink is a lot larger than Link.  On my 95lx when
> I got my first 2 meg sram card I used Tasm and Microsoft Link.
>
> > Yes, unfortunately. You can overcome that by making conditional
> > compilation, and replace the calls to the graphic functions with calls
> > that print the values to screen. I agree that this solution is not
> > ideal but it works. Turbo Debugger and CodeView do not support symbolic
> > labels for COM files which is one of the reasons I dropped TASM despite
> > having to translate all my library stuff and some larg'ish programs to
> > A86.
>
> That doesn't make d86 work in graphics mode.  It just lets you debug
> without it.  But it's a lot more work that way.  I'd suggest trying Symdeb
> for debugging.  It's symbolic and will work well with Tasm or Masm.  It
> also will let you do something that resembles but actually isn't, source
> level debugging of C.  It's worth having.  It even handles switching to
> and from graphics modes (CGA,not HP) at breakpoints, and lets you look
> at the graphics screen if you want to.
>
> I've written a small program that will convert the A86 map xref file to
> a Masm-like map file so that you can use Symdeb symbolically with A86 too.
>
> Barry
>
>
> > One irritating thing is that A86 does not support STRUC very well so you
> > will have to work around that.
> >
> > Jorgen
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:54:31 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Does anybody have an outside-CIS url for Mini-Forth? Trying to pick up Forth
again after finding Leo Brodie's Starting Forth after it's been gathering
dust for the last ten years. :-) I am also wondering about learning to
program again, I have been a strictly macro-person for the last 10 years. I
see that Steve Lawson uses BC for GP, could GP be realised in Forth? I have
always liked the idea of Forth, but never seen or heard much of real-world
applications.

I dl Pygmy Forth 1.5 from the author's page, but didn't see anything
lx-specific. ?

br

Franklin


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From: barrym <barrym@NEOSOFT.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 15. juni 1998 02:12
Subject: Re: Programming languages


>On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with
a
>> file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?
>
>There are 3 Forth's for the lx computers that I know of.  The first was
>called Util and was written for the 95lx.  I've heard it was pretty
>buggy but I haven't actually ever seen it.
>
>There's a version of Mini-Forth that I modified with the author's
>permission and source code.  I added support for most of the lx features
>I know how to control at that time.  I also added support for both 95lx
>and 100lx graphics.  That includes access to a lot of the internal rom
>graphics routines.  It also included words for some of the lx specific
>interrupts.  There isnt any documentation except the blurb that comes
>with it and the original mini-forth documentation, but there is a help
>command that gives all the new words and their stack diagrams.  It's
>available on CIS.
>
>The best Forth for the lx computers, IMHO, is the one done by Victor
>Roberts from Pygmy Forth.  I can't remember what he called it but something
>like Pygmy100 or Forth100.  It's also on CIS but I've seen it on some
>Forth sites as well.
>
>He's modified the editor to fit the 64x18 screen nicely and added support
>for a lot of hp stuff.  He's also a Forth programmer (and I'm not) so he
>had a good feeling for what features to add and how best to add them.
>
>Util was commercial and pretty expensive.  The others are all freeware.
>
>By the way, I've tried out probably over a dozen 16 bit Forth's on the lx
>to see if they would work and they all did.
>
>Barry
>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:09:23 -0500
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I am certainly ignorant of programs that haven't been
written.

> On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Bernard Torbik wrote:
>
> > Guess what? The 620 *IS* $699. As for not considering CE, well, one of these
> > days you'll realize that there are plenty of reasons, not the least of which
> > is a world of applications you are obviously ignorant about.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:12:45 -0500
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Subject:      Re: CF 2mB...$20
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, hplx wrote:

> The 95LX can accept a small number of 12V Flash Type I cards.  The 100LX
> can accept Type II, v2.0 (not 2.1 like the 200lx) in 12V forms.  CF cards
> only work at 3.3 and 5V, and hence will not work in the 100LX, as I
> understand.

I have a Sandisk 15 meg compact flash card working just fine in my 100lx.
Your message was the first time I knew it wouldn't work.  Quick as a dash,
I ran to my old 100lx and checked and sure enough, the compact flash is
there and its working just fine.

I didn't let it get near this screen though.  As long as it doesn't know
it's not supposed to work...... :)

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:18:19 -0500
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, m. c. Beutler wrote:

> Frank or anyone else,
>
> Any idea why the 1960 + xx for the date code, as opposed to just
> "19xx"?

That lets it work past the year 2000.  But not past the year 2060,
by which time they might have discontinued the 200lx anyway.

Actually that's a fairly common thing to do in what are usually
referred to (incorrectly) as Julian dates.  They are the number of
days (or seconds) past a certain starting year.  1900 is used a lot as
is 1980.  Making the base year more recent means the number is smaller
and needs less storage.  Often it's chosen to fit within the integer or
register size or some other such consideration.

Barry

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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:
> > This list is for DOS HPLX palmtops and not for win HPLX. (or I=B4m wron=
g?)

Just my opionion, or maybe my vote.  I like that this is mostly a 200lx
group.  All the palmtop newsgroups are mostly WinCE now.

But I wouldn't like it to be a 200lx group so much that I think we should
not make others who want to join in with other machines feel at home.

We'll lose more than we'll gain by that, I think.

Barry

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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Peter W wrote:

> Thinking about the LX Registry -> GDB idea, Craig Payne's GDBIO notes say
> that C source code for GDBLOAD/GDBDUMP is available "on Compuserve in
> library 11 of the HPHAND forum in a file called DBUSRC.ZIP". Neither
> Mitch nor I have CIS access, could someone d/l this and email to us? I
> assume we'll put it on SUPER if the distribution license allows that.

Compuserve's collection license specifially prohibits doing this, I
believe.  I've heard they take that pretty seriously too.

Barry

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This is Good New/Bad News for me.  I was ready to ask for repair info t=
oday
because I though my 200LX had developed a screwy hardware error this we=
ekend.
Instead it appears I am affected by this SC bug that got a lot of other=

people.  My version is 6.91/6.80 which I purchased from Educalc in Apri=
l 97.

The really bad news it that I STILL have problems getting SC initialize=
d.
Occasionally it works but not always.  I have a 4 meg, un-modified  200=
LX s/n:
SG647...

Does anyone else still have problems with SC?

Russ Brooks  8-276-0158
SVM Support  (RLB at STLVM5)
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At 08:34 AM 6/14/98 -0500, Al Kind wrote:
 > I don't have tha manual in front of me now, but I believe the specs on
 > my new 8mB "VersaCard" say compatible w/ 100 & 200LX. Don't see why the
 > SanDisk would be any diferent.

A lot of vendors make the assumption that if it works in the 200LX it will
work in the 100LX and other like HP products.  The 100LX is known not to
work with many, many newer flash cards, unfortunately.  An example of this
is Simple Technologies' STI-ATAFL cards, which are not even compact flash.
(see http://www.simpletech.com/pccard/sramtech.htm#ata)  At one time, they
listed the 100LX as being compat, but it isn't (they took it down).  And
still, these cards are NOT compat with the OB 300 and 425 listed on their
web page.

So, don't always believe the vendor's claims.

As for San/sundisk: the older SDP cards Do work in the 100lx. I know, I
used one in mine.  I'm pretty sure, however, that CF cards won't even with
the adapter, as a microtech CF-adapter card wouldn't work in my Omnibook,
which had essentially the same drivers, hardware as the 100LX.  Newer cards
want Card Services 2.1 (the 100lx supplies something compat only with 2.0)

It gets confusing, and I could be wrong, so...
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Following my posting about batteries dying in days, it happened again this
weekend.  It even killed the backup battery so 100% data loss ensued.  As I
put a new backup battery in last week (as insurance following the main
batteries dying several times) I was pretty sad about it.

So I think the LX is sick - maybe a short of some kind.

Does anyone know where in the UK (or Europe) is the place to go for repairs
?  Do HP do them, if so where do I start approaching such a vast
organisation ?  Is it ever worth it...especially with a problem that seems
to happen over time, not the kind of thing repair people like.

I don't really want to have to buy a new one; they must be the
lowest-depreciating XT clone of all time.

William D.Ll.Brown
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13h20m47s ago ...
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Gary Spiers wrote:

> ...
>
> Problems reported           No problem reported
>   6.90/6.80                     6.86/6.80
>   6.92/6.80                     6.89/6.80
>   6.80 (Paulo do you have       6.92/6.80
>   the other version no?)

    6.91/6.80

Also on a 32mB machine



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At 09:12 AM 6/15/98 -0500, barrym wrote:
 > I have a Sandisk 15 meg compact flash card working just fine in my 100lx.
 > Your message was the first time I knew it wouldn't work.  Quick as a dash,
 > I ran to my old 100lx and checked and sure enough, the compact flash is
 > there and its working just fine.
 >
 > I didn't let it get near this screen though.  As long as it doesn't know
 > it's not supposed to work...... :)

Well, I was wrong.  I thought all CF cards required Card Services 2.1,
which the 100lx, as I understand, doesn't supply. But this is good news. I
hope many other cards work in it as well, as it only keeps the 100LX alive
that much longer...

Thanks.

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> Also on a 32mB machine

As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).  Thus
your comment above looked initially like a 32 millibyte machine!!!
That's not even a single bit!

-Chris


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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Brian Kassel wrote:

> Folks:
>   I'm in the market for a 10MB flash memory card.  I'm a complete
> newbie to the HP200lx, and want to get atarted out on the right
> foot.

I'd suggest getting a compact flash card with an adaptor to fit
the 200lx.  I have an old Epson (Sundisk) 10 meg flash card and
I have a 20 meg (and 15 meg) Sandisk compact flash with adaptors.
The adaptors are included free in the 15 and 20 meg versions. They
fit well, are sturdy, and are tested for 10,000 insertions.  So I
don't think they're a considerations.

Checking the specs on the Sandisk website, I found they both had the
same numbers, even though I often didn't know the meaning of the
numbers.  But it seems that they have the same power consumption
and expected life and mean time between failures.

The big difference is that the compact flash cards are a LOT cheaper.

Barry

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> This is Good New/Bad News for me.  I was ready to ask for repair info
> today because I though my 200LX had developed a screwy hardware error
> this weekend.  Instead it appears I am affected by this SC bug that got
> a lot of other people.  My version is 6.91/6.80 which I purchased from
> Educalc in April 97.
> The really bad news it that I STILL have problems getting SC
> initialized.  Occasionally it works but not always.  I have a 4 meg,
> un-modified 200LX s/n:  SG647...
> Does anyone else still have problems with SC?

You might want to run a program like Norton Disk Doctor on your RAM drive.
After I had all these SC problems I discovered that it was reporting that
I had an invalid media descriptor byte.  I fixed that, reinstalled SC
(AGAIN!) and it fixed the problem.

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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:03:31 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 01h57m03s ago ...
> On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, barrym wrote:
>
> > The best Forth for the lx computers, IMHO, is the one done by Victor
> > Roberts from Pygmy Forth.  I can't remember what he called it but something
> > like Pygmy100 or Forth100.  It's also on CIS but I've seen it on some
> > Forth sites as well.
>
> I know about, and have used 100Pygmy, the version of pygmy modified by
> Dr. Robert Williams.  This sounds like the same thing.  Are you sure
> about the Vic Roberts version?

Nope.  I think that was confusion on my part.  Thanks for catching it.
Robert Williams was the one.  I remember now that you've reminded me.

Barry

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I've copied your suggestions into a file and I'll spend a little time
trying this out.

Again, thanks

Barry

On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> > On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that info.  I've wondered if that would work and I've
> > considered trying it a time or two when I really had a difficult
> > problem to find.  But it always seemed easier to move it to my laptop
> > or PC and debug it there, than to setup the remote debugger, which
> > I've never used.
>
> It's great if you have LX specific calls.  It's a breeze to setup, if
> I remember, on the palmtop you type:
>
>    tdremote -rs2
>
> Then, on the laptop you type:
>
>    td -rs2 (programname)
>
> With the connectivity pack cable hooked up, the laptop will tell you
> the version on the palmtop is old or missing, then allow you to load
> it to the palmtop.  Only one thing to remember:  Ctrlc-Break the palmtop
> *before* you exit TD on the laptop.  If you do it the other way around,
> the palmtop will need a Ctrl-Lshit-On reboot.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Alexander Stanovoy wrote:

> Hello,
>
> maybe You know where can I get Turbo C ++ ?

Contact Borland (now Inprise) and they'll sell you a license to copy
an out of date version of one of their programs for $50.  Then with
that license, anyone who has the program can legally give you a copy
of it.

I don't know of any company but Borland that does this and, in my
opinion, it's pretty nice of them to do it.  They've always been the
most accomodating about licensing issues.

Barry

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I'll be happy to see if I still have the package that I uploaded to
CIS and upload it somewhere else as well.  If anyone has any idea
where I might send it, please let me know.

If no place turns up for it in a few days, email me privatly and I'll
send you a copy, assuming I can still find it.

Barry

On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Does anybody have an outside-CIS url for Mini-Forth? Trying to pick up Forth
> again after finding Leo Brodie's Starting Forth after it's been gathering
> dust for the last ten years. :-) I am also wondering about learning to
> program again, I have been a strictly macro-person for the last 10 years. I
> see that Steve Lawson uses BC for GP, could GP be realised in Forth? I have
> always liked the idea of Forth, but never seen or heard much of real-world
> applications.
>
> I dl Pygmy Forth 1.5 from the author's page, but didn't see anything
> lx-specific. ?
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: barrym <barrym@NEOSOFT.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: 15. juni 1998 02:12
> Subject: Re: Programming languages
>
>
> >On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?  Or with
> a
> >> file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app manager?
> >
> >There are 3 Forth's for the lx computers that I know of.  The first was
> >called Util and was written for the 95lx.  I've heard it was pretty
> >buggy but I haven't actually ever seen it.
> >
> >There's a version of Mini-Forth that I modified with the author's
> >permission and source code.  I added support for most of the lx features
> >I know how to control at that time.  I also added support for both 95lx
> >and 100lx graphics.  That includes access to a lot of the internal rom
> >graphics routines.  It also included words for some of the lx specific
> >interrupts.  There isnt any documentation except the blurb that comes
> >with it and the original mini-forth documentation, but there is a help
> >command that gives all the new words and their stack diagrams.  It's
> >available on CIS.
> >
> >The best Forth for the lx computers, IMHO, is the one done by Victor
> >Roberts from Pygmy Forth.  I can't remember what he called it but something
> >like Pygmy100 or Forth100.  It's also on CIS but I've seen it on some
> >Forth sites as well.
> >
> >He's modified the editor to fit the 64x18 screen nicely and added support
> >for a lot of hp stuff.  He's also a Forth programmer (and I'm not) so he
> >had a good feeling for what features to add and how best to add them.
> >
> >Util was commercial and pretty expensive.  The others are all freeware.
> >
> >By the way, I've tried out probably over a dozen 16 bit Forth's on the lx
> >to see if they would work and they all did.
> >
> >Barry
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I don't know about compiling and editing. I prefer my IBM 560 for a
programming environment. Guess I need to pull out my old copy of Turbo C++
1.0 and see what happens.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, June 13, 1998 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Direct Access - Part 2


>Is this actual, honest-to-goodness multitasking, so you could compile >and
edit +at the same time+?
>
>Really really?
>I'd given up on this concept.


>Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
>Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
> 10. "Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like > a rat
in a trap."

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:42:10 -0700
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Hello everyone,
 Just wondering, I ran across an old program called LotusWorks, it
combined a database, spreadsheet, word processing, and comm program all
in one similar (I quess) to microsoft works. It looks like it will run
on the hp200. My question is has anyone else heard of it or used this
program. We had it at work for a little while (until windows), so my
experience with it is limited. On first glance, it seems like a decent
program that would do some things the built in database won't do and of
course the spreadsheet program is pure lotus (rel 3.1, I think). I
thought I would ask before I invested the time in re-learning this
thing.
Let me know if any of you have played with this and what you thought.
Thanks in advance.
                  Terry

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:42:53 -0700
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"m. c. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote:
> Any idea why the 1960 + xx for the date code, as opposed to just
> "19xx"?

Well, um, no.  Nor do I know why they re-based it in 1990 in 1993
(or was it 1992?).

And as for the notion that it would have stopped working in 2060...
on 1960s era HP computer gear the date code is sometimes three digits
with only one digit for the year.  I'd guess that if they had kept
with it long enough, come 2060 the date codes would look like 100xx.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:00:24 -0400
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Anyone seen this problem with Buddy?

When I terminate the system manager while using Buddy,
Buddy doesn't unload even though I have the 'Unload
Buddy when terminating the system manger' check box
checked in the buddy config.  The problem seems to
be the font loader TSR created by FCL that I run.
It doesn't seem to matter where I start the TSR in
my autoexec.bat, Buddy doesn't want to exit if it's
running.

Thanks,
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:21:07 -0400
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Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:49:14 -0400 (EDT)

01h53m30s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Does anybody have an outside-CIS url for Mini-Forth? Trying to pick up =
Forth
> again after finding Leo Brodie's Starting Forth after it's been gatherin=
g
> dust for the last ten years. :-)

Don't know about mini-forth, but I'm pretty sure 100pygmy is on Eddie,
and maybe SUPER...

> I dl Pygmy Forth 1.5 from the author's page, but didn't see anything
> lx-specific. ?

Pygmy 1.5 is for DOS in general - not LX specific.  I have my own
version of 1.5 that includes a modified editor based on Dr Williams'
100pygmy and a bunch of LX graphic stuff & other goodies.  I'm still
working on this, but when I'm reasonably satisfied, will see if I can
get permission from pygmy's author to distribute it...

-PR
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Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:02:45 -0400 (EDT)

26m44s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, barrym wrote:

> I'll be happy to see if I still have the package that I uploaded to
> CIS and upload it somewhere else as well.  If anyone has any idea
> where I might send it, please let me know.

Probably the best place would be SUPER.  Check with Mitch Hamm.  I
think his address is:
        mitch@palmtop,net

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:14:25 -0400
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02h11m44s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> > Also on a 32mB machine
>
> As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
> prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).

You are 100% correct, I should know better :-(

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:15:25 -0400
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You can also find the 100Pygmy Forth on the HP Palmtop Paper annual CD.
As it is not from CompuServe you might be able to find it on the HP
Palmtop Paper site.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: barrym ÝSMTP:barrym@NEOSOFT.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 11:36 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Programming languages
>
> I'll be happy to see if I still have the package that I uploaded to
> CIS and upload it somewhere else as well.  If anyone has any idea
> where I might send it, please let me know.
>
> If no place turns up for it in a few days, email me privatly and I'll
> send you a copy, assuming I can still find it.
>
> Barry
>
> On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> > Does anybody have an outside-CIS url for Mini-Forth? Trying to pick
> up Forth
> > again after finding Leo Brodie's Starting Forth after it's been
> gathering
> > dust for the last ten years. :-) I am also wondering about learning
> to
> > program again, I have been a strictly macro-person for the last 10
> years. I
> > see that Steve Lawson uses BC for GP, could GP be realised in Forth?
> I have
> > always liked the idea of Forth, but never seen or heard much of
> real-world
> > applications.
> >
> > I dl Pygmy Forth 1.5 from the author's page, but didn't see anything
> > lx-specific. ?
> >
> > br
> >
> > Franklin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: barrym <barrym@NEOSOFT.COM>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > Date: 15. juni 1998 02:12
> > Subject: Re: Programming languages
> >
> >
> > >On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> Does any body know of a Forth specificaly for the hp lx series?
> Or with
> > a
> > >> file specificaly interfacing to the hplx series and the app
> manager?
> > >
> > >There are 3 Forth's for the lx computers that I know of.  The first
> was
> > >called Util and was written for the 95lx.  I've heard it was pretty
> > >buggy but I haven't actually ever seen it.
> > >
> > >There's a version of Mini-Forth that I modified with the author's
> > >permission and source code.  I added support for most of the lx
> features
> > >I know how to control at that time.  I also added support for both
> 95lx
> > >and 100lx graphics.  That includes access to a lot of the internal
> rom
> > >graphics routines.  It also included words for some of the lx
> specific
> > >interrupts.  There isnt any documentation except the blurb that
> comes
> > >with it and the original mini-forth documentation, but there is a
> help
> > >command that gives all the new words and their stack diagrams.
> It's
> > >available on CIS.
> > >
> > >The best Forth for the lx computers, IMHO, is the one done by
> Victor
> > >Roberts from Pygmy Forth.  I can't remember what he called it but
> something
> > >like Pygmy100 or Forth100.  It's also on CIS but I've seen it on
> some
> > >Forth sites as well.
> > >
> > >He's modified the editor to fit the 64x18 screen nicely and added
> support
> > >for a lot of hp stuff.  He's also a Forth programmer (and I'm not)
> so he
> > >had a good feeling for what features to add and how best to add
> them.
> > >
> > >Util was commercial and pretty expensive.  The others are all
> freeware.
> > >
> > >By the way, I've tried out probably over a dozen 16 bit Forth's on
> the lx
> > >to see if they would work and they all did.
> > >
> > >Barry
> > >
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:08:46 -0400
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Have to tried Van Buerg's List program. It's probably the most popular
file reader for DOS environments. I use it along with a porgram called
Zipray that let's me keep text files in a zip archive, scroll through
the list of text files, and read them without having to unzip first. (it
does actually unzip to <stdout> but it's transparent.)

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Kathleen Hollington
Ýmailto:kholling@NRN1.NRCAN.GC.CA¨
                Sent:   Saturday, June 13, 1998 1:54 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        ÝHPLX-L¨ dos text scroller?

                Hi,
                I'm looking for a simple dos text scroller program, that
would display
                a text file by scrolling the text on the screen at a
rate settable by
                the user.  Kind of a cheap version of that vertical
reader program.  I
                just use my 200lx in dos all the time now, and such a
utility would
                be very useful to me.  If anyone has one or knows where
I can find
                one, please drop me a line.  Thanks.
                        --Robert
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:37:27 -0400
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>> Does anyone else still have problems with SC?
>You might want to run a program like Norton Disk Doctor on your RAM dr=
ive.

Done that, no problem found.
I've reinstalled everything.  I even popped out the batteries and let i=
t sit
overnight thinking it needed a complete reset.
I also ran the built in diags (On-Esc) and let it loop on ram/rom tests=
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several hours.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:36:55 -0700
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> > the palmtop will need a Ctrl-Lshit-On reboot.

Oops, that's LShift.  I am embarrassed.. <g>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:42:22 -0400
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In computerese especially HHDs, 'M' is often used for mega (1,048,576)
bytes and 'm' for million (1,000,000) bytes. (Or is it the other way
around?)

Tom

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:50:52 +0200
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I am having this problem with the repeat feature in appointment.
I whant to set an appointment on Saturday in week number 25 and have it
repeated every year.
But settting it to repeat every 52 weeek does not give the correct
repeat intervall.
This Year it is on the 20th. The third,and second last,saturday in June.
1999 it is on the 26th. The last Saturday in June. 1999 has 53 weeks, =
wich
makes thing complicated.

Am I missing something?

  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

                    64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

                    10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
                    20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
                    30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:48:54 -0700
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> > > the palmtop will need a Ctrl-Lshit-On reboot.
>
> Oops, that's LShift.  I am embarrassed.. <g>

Sounds like somebody needs his keyboard washed out with soap.  <g>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:58:30 -0700
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I am taking the liberty to reprint a reply I sent to Paul regarding
this issue... he emailed me personally asking for assistance.

My apologies to anyone who has tried to use this, and couldn't due to
the absence of the necessary sort.com file. This is the first I've
heard of this problem.

Mark Jordan

---Paul Medrek <paulmed@MASSMED.ORG> wrote:
>
> Has anyone had any luck setting up and using the Relevant Backup
System
> (RBS) found on S.U.P.E.R.?  I have been unable to get it up and
running.
>
> Paul
>

Ýsnip¨

====

My reply regarding this issue:

Hi, Paul.

I looked at your situation, and discovered I left something necessary
out of the documentation. In addition to the Unix grep and Info-zip
utilities, another file is required that I took for granted during my
development of RBS... you will need to add sort.exe into your path on
you HP from a DOS 5.0 distribution.

Thanks for letting me know of this problem. I will render the doc's and
resubmit to SUPER.

Ýsnip¨

---Paul Medrek <paulmed@massmed.org> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I was unable to get RBS to work on my 200LX.  I was hoping you might
be
> able to clue me in as to why. Here are my rbs files.  Thanks in
advance
> for any advice you might have:
>

Ýsnip¨


==
Mark J. Jordan
Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Done that, no problem found.
> I've reinstalled everything.  I even popped out the batteries and let it sit
> overnight thinking it needed a complete reset.
> I also ran the built in diags (On-Esc) and let it loop on ram/rom tests for
> several hours.

So what problems are you still having with SC?  The same-- locking up on
the initializing screen?  Or something else?

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:59:33 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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I don't have SC, but anybody tried a virus check? I have followed this
thread waiting for the virus to show up... :-)

Franklin

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:29:56 -0700
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I'm not sure about previous versions of Outlook '98, but I was able to
do an export to a comma/quote delimited text file for each of the
appointment and task folders. Not sure what the below program does...
but if a comma/quote delimited file can be created, this may also be a
method for getting the data into the System Manager Appt. Book app...
a program will just need to be written to import the comma/quoted text
file.

Just my $.02... of course, also has been -$.02 before.

Mark Jordan

>
> Hi guys,
>
> Okay, so Visual Basic and OLE Automation aren't that hard to learn.
I've
> managed to write a tiny little test program that dumps outlook
calendar info
> into a text box. From here on out, it should be just a simple matter
of
> programming... :-)
>
> - Joe
>
> Option Explicit
>
> Private Sub print_2(s As String)
>     RichTextBox2.Text = RichTextBox2.Text + s + Chr$(13) + Chr$(10)
> End Sub
>
.
.
.

Ýsnip¨

==
Mark J. Jordan
Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:18:16 -0500
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              Jaime Viehweg <jviehweg@LUCENT.COM>
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On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 03:54:31PM +0200, Franklin Eekhout wrote:
> Does anybody have an outside-CIS url for Mini-Forth? Trying to pick up Forth
> again after finding Leo Brodie's Starting Forth after it's been gathering
> dust for the last ten years. :-) I am also wondering about learning to
> program again, I have been a strictly macro-person for the last 10 years. I
> see that Steve Lawson uses BC for GP, could GP be realised in Forth? I have
> always liked the idea of Forth, but never seen or heard much of real-world
> applications.

If you have ever used a Sun system and had an "ok" prompt, you were using
Forth.  I don't know to what standard it is but I messed with it many
years ago and it was able to do everything I tried.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:10:02 -0700
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> I don't have SC, but anybody tried a virus check? I have followed this
> thread waiting for the virus to show up... :-)

If it is a virus, it's not detected by Norton Antivirus 4.0 with
definition files updated on April 1...

My money is on it being a bug, but what sort I can't guess...

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:33:20 -0400
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              Larry Feldman <lfeldman@VOICENET.COM>
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Hi Terry,

Yes, I used to use LotusWorks all the time. Great program. It started life
as AlphaWorks before Lotus, bought, renamed, and killed it. It's strong
point was that unlike Microsoft Works, Alpha/LotusWorks used industry
standard files i.e. dbf files for the database and wk1 files for the
spreadsheet. It also contained the requisite word processor and telecom
programs. AND, you could have multiple documents open concurrently

I tried running both programs on the 100LX some time ago. The program had
problems with my stacked flashcard - though I don't remember the
specifics. If you can get it to work, let me know. I'd love to dust off my
copies.

Regards,

Larry Feldman
LFeldman@Voicenet.com

>
> Hello everyone,
>  Just wondering, I ran across an old program called LotusWorks, it
> combined a database, spreadsheet, word processing, and comm program all
> in one similar (I quess) to microsoft works. It looks like it will run

<snip>

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:31:06 -0700
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For what it's worth, the SC bug isn't restricted to the palmtop.  I got a
message from a guy using version 5.0 for DOS on an XT (desktop) and he had
the same problem on the 13th.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:48:36 -0700
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The results of the May 1998 Contest at my web site are in!  Winning
entries have been posted at the site and all entries have been posted for
people to read and enjoy.

Thanks to everybody who entered.  The next contest will begin in 10-15
days, so keep an eye out for announcements!

(If you submitted an entry, and it was not listed on the winning page or
the page for all entries, please let me know and I will find it and post
it.)

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 04:24:20 -0600
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              rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
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Hi William

B4 you consider your LX sick re dying batteries...I had the very same
thing..  It was an alarm I had set to run a macro..  Woke the LX and kept it
awake if the macro did not complete for some reason..= DEAD batteries..

I really hope this is it for you so the trusty LX is still well..

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:26:45 -0400
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Also try to leave the batteries (including backup battery)  out for a
day. I noticed that my LX was running batteries down very quickly and
this fixed it. Remember to back up your C: drive.... Twice!

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Russell Hemery Ýmailto:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨
                Sent:   Tuesday, June 16, 1998 6:24 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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                Hi William

                B4 you consider your LX sick re dying batteries...I had
the very same
                thing..  It was an alarm I had set to run a macro..
Woke the LX and kept it
                awake if the macro did not complete for some reason..=
DEAD batteries..

                I really hope this is it for you so the trusty LX is
still well..

                Russell
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:40:02 -0400
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Friday, I turned on my beloved "geek's best fried", and the screen looked
like a TV with a bad horizontal hold.  There were streaky lines moving
vertically from the top of the screen to the bottom of the screen very
quickly.  Sorta looked like rain.  I tried warm booting.  I tried cold
booting.  I tried plugging it into AC.  Nothing helped.  I could make out
enough of the screen to know that the 100 was doing what it should in
every other way, and my files had not disappeared.  Well, after trying
several different apps, I tried APPT, then it cleared up.  First I saw the
function key labels, then the rest of the screen.

Has anyone seen this before?

Should I replace it?

Did going into scheduler do anything magical, or was it just time to work?

I've been tempted to get a 200 with gobs-o-ram, but I want it to be on my
terms.  Thanks in advance.


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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:58:08 -0400
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Al san,

The RIPOFF is a belt holster case.
I think it was originally made for HP
calculators. It has a pad inside, so
your machine is protected.

Regards,
Yujin

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> Nagasawa san
> What is a RIP OFF pouch?
>
> I do have a 99% new leather pouch for
> the belt. It carries the LX horizontally.
>
> Hello the Frenchman with the LX, you
> know who you are. Is it still available?
>
> Yor ami al .....................
>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:25:14 -0400
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>So what problems are you still having with SC?  The same-- locking up =
on
>the initializing screen?  Or something else?

When SC quit working on Saturday (only I didn't know it was SC, I thoug=
ht my
200LX was flakey)
I started trying different setups to see if something in particular was=
 the
problem.  A side effect
was I didn't end up with my original setup that I had before SC crapped=
 out.  I
am finding that
SC is somewhat picky about the DOS setup it  will successfully start in=
.  My
problems are NOT
with the resource pool.  I've set aside much more space than is needed.=


I am slowly finding what causes SC to hang during Initialization and wh=
at it
accepts.

Example, long ago I added this to my Autoexec.BAt file
  set comspec=3Dd:\dos\command.com

Now this isn't really needed as the default 'comspec=3Dcommand' that it=
 starts
with works fine
but I've found that I can't remove my version without SC hanging.  I wo=
nder if
SC is sensitive
to the DOS environment?  I know I tell it to set up 2048 bytes of envir=
onment
space in SCCONFIG.
Maybe that is unusual enough that SC freaks out ???

Another odd thing was while trying to get it up I added a TSR ahead of =
SC's
start that I normally
start in the individual work areas.  By reducing the available RAM it a=
llowed
SC to start.  When
I removed the TSR, SC started hanging again.  That was late yesterday a=
nd until
I saw
news about the date sensitivity in the list today it was the first indi=
cation
that all was not lost.

Whatever the real cause, I'm slowly getting my 200LX back to normal.  I=
'm very
relieved to
find that I don't have a busted palmtop, just a slightly flakey task sw=
itcher.

Russ Brooks
=

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Gary Spiers wrote:

> Problems reported           No problem reported
>   6.90/6.80                     6.86/6.80
>   6.92/6.80                     6.89/6.80
>   6.80 (Paulo do you have       6.92/6.80
>   the other version no?)
     ¬        ¬         ¬
     |        |         |

Sorry, I read the version in Sc-config and there is only 6.80 there:
actually this is the first time I see a double version software :).

Launching Sc-menu now I can read "version 6.91" on the left side of
the screen and "version 6.80" on the right. I bought my copy of SC in
Italy on january 98. From that time on june the 13th my SC has been
going very well, at least so far.

BTW: I agree with David that it should not be a virus.

Bye Paolo.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:51:49 -0500
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On 06-15 09:23am, had been written:

# > On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:
# > > This list is for DOS HPLX palmtops and not for win HPLX. (or I4m wrong?)
#
# Just my opionion, or maybe my vote.  I like that this is mostly a 200lx
# group.  All the palmtop newsgroups are mostly WinCE now.
# But I wouldn't like it to be a 200lx group so much that I think we should
# not make others who want to join in with other machines feel at home.
# We'll lose more than we'll gain by that, I think.
#
# Barry



I agree with you, Barry, but I also don't how much help WinCE users
would find here.  When I got rid of my 320LX a few months ago, I got
rid of everything to do with it because I saw no use for the extra
books and such.  Maybe it's my age, but I really do not remember a great
deal of CE specific stuff anymore.  Besides, I suspect there a more
than a few people here who, like me, only had a couple of months of
experience with their CE beast before deciding Dos was boss.
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On 06-15 09:59am, had been written:

# > Also on a 32mB machine
# As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
# prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).  Thus
# your comment above looked initially like a 32 millibyte machine!!!
# That's not even a single bit!
# -Chris

Yah, but think how cheap memory upgeades would be then! <g>
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45m13s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:00:48 -0400 (EDT), Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> The RIPOFF is a belt holster case.
> I think it was originally made for HP
> calculators. It has a pad inside, so
> your machine is protected.

It's a very good case; one of my favorites. There is a picture of it
and its nice belt clip here:

http://w3.one.net/~hamm/img/ripoff.jpg

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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On 06-15 11:21am, had been written:

# Don't know about mini-forth, but I'm pretty sure 100pygmy is on Eddie,
# and maybe SUPER...

What is Eddie?

#
# Pygmy 1.5 is for DOS in general - not LX specific.  I have my own
# version of 1.5 that includes a modified editor based on Dr Williams'
# 100pygmy and a bunch of LX graphic stuff & other goodies.  I'm still
# working on this, but when I'm reasonably satisfied, will see if I can
# get permission from pygmy's author to distribute it...
#
# -PR
# ------------

If the author permits, please send me a copy if you get time.
regards,

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01h10m13s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, m. c. Beutler wrote:


> What is Eddie?

ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/...

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:08:21 -0500
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On 06-15 11:36am, had been written:

# > > the palmtop will need a Ctrl-Lshit-On reboot.
#
# Oops, that's LShift.  I am embarrassed.. <g>
#

That's Aww, Sh*t on reboot, anyway... <g>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:42:42 -0700
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You can set up an event in the appointment manager that will run any dos
program or any macro withing the sys manager at any time you specify,
repeating with any of the options available within the appointment
manager.  See the books that came with the palmtop.  You can backup
anything you want at any time and even run the random topcard
replacement program at night so your palmtop has a different topcard
each day.  Also, you do not need to leave the appointment manager active
but you can not leave any dos program open from the sys manager at night
if you are running any dos programs on a schedule...

Dan Carrington




Russell Hemery wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Is there any way to start a program once per day when the machine is
> first
> turned on?
>
> As you know the daily greeting comes on once per day when you turn the
> HPLX
> on.. Is there a way to start a backup prog?
>
> I know about in Appointment at a certain time.. That did not work for
> me..
>
> I used to run a Macro backup prog.. I found if I left a dos session
> open or
> the flash disk was too full to allow completion the macro would keep
> the LX
> "awake" and I lost data several times..Prudence dictates that I find
> another
> way..
>
> If I am doing something wrong and there is error codes or something
> that I
> can put in a timed Macro please advise me if you can.
>
> Has anybody solved this? Any other way to run on startup?
>
> Regards
>
> Russell
> Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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At 6:17 PM 98.6.14, Brian Dnovan wrote:
> I think emulators are doomed to painfull slowness.  A translator might work.
> Aparently DEC (now Compaq) Pentium Translator for thier Alpha works pretty
> well.  Any experience out there?
>

I'm using Virtual PC on a G3 Mac and it runs at a reasaonable pace (~100
MHz Pentium) but hardly fast. However, Japanese road atlas software, study
works and Bookshelf are certainly more than usable. It should be noted that
I don't use the most demanding software, 3D games with the emulator.

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The name of the company that makes RIPOFFS is The Reeline Co. in Calif.
They can be found on the web at ripoffs.com and the HP200LX takes a model
CO-29 I think.

Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> Al san,
>
> The RIPOFF is a belt holster case.
> I think it was originally made for HP
> calculators. It has a pad inside, so
> your machine is protected.
>
> Regards,
> Yujin
>
> ----------
> Yujin Nagasawa
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
> E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>           QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
> ----------
>
> > Nagasawa san
> > What is a RIP OFF pouch?
> >
> > I do have a 99% new leather pouch for
> > the belt. It carries the LX horizontally.
> >
> > Hello the Frenchman with the LX, you
> > know who you are. Is it still available?
> >
> > Yor ami al .....................
> >
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, m. c. Beutler wrote:

> On 06-15 09:59am, had been written:
>
> # > Also on a 32mB machine
> # As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
> # prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).  Thus
> # your comment above looked initially like a 32 millibyte machine!!!
> # That's not even a single bit!
> # -Chris
>
> Yah, but think how cheap memory upgeades would be then! <g>

now if we were _really_ pedantic, speaking of units smaller than one bit
wouldn't really make sense, would they? :-)


Regards,

Laust

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I bought a HP620LX about a month ago, cute machine. I returned it and had my 200LX
upgraded with 32 meg, happy now.

m. c. Beutler wrote:

> On 06-15 09:23am, had been written:
>
> # > On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:
> # > > This list is for DOS HPLX palmtops and not for win HPLX. (or I4m wrong?)
> #
> # Just my opionion, or maybe my vote.  I like that this is mostly a 200lx
> # group.  All the palmtop newsgroups are mostly WinCE now.
> # But I wouldn't like it to be a 200lx group so much that I think we should
> # not make others who want to join in with other machines feel at home.
> # We'll lose more than we'll gain by that, I think.
> #
> # Barry
>
> I agree with you, Barry, but I also don't how much help WinCE users
> would find here.  When I got rid of my 320LX a few months ago, I got
> rid of everything to do with it because I saw no use for the extra
> books and such.  Maybe it's my age, but I really do not remember a great
> deal of CE specific stuff anymore.  Besides, I suspect there a more
> than a few people here who, like me, only had a couple of months of
> experience with their CE beast before deciding Dos was boss.
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I have set up Pygmy100 Forth and it seems ok, although so far from any
standard that none of my old code will work.  The problem besides that is it
has no specific programs for accessing the IR port or the serial port etc...
Does you modified Mini-forth have such hardware specifics?  thanx

Brian

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:24:37 -0500 (CDT), barrym wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Peter W wrote:

>> Mitch nor I have CIS access, could someone d/l this and email to us? I
>> assume we'll put it on SUPER if the distribution license allows that.
>
>Compuserve's collection license specifially prohibits doing this, I
>believe.  I've heard they take that pretty seriously too.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the general rule, but this code is
explicitly described as "public domain" which means noone can assert
ownership/copyright privileges over it, AFAIK.

Thanks to those who sent me the file, and the others who offered to.

-Peter

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I'm really interested in this "horizontal" pouch... Any more information?

> > > I do have a 99% new leather pouch for
> > > the belt. It carries the LX horizontally.


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Mitch,  I may be opening my mouth, :-0  but I have a couple questions
regarding the case...FYI,  I own a custom leather business.

Is there a gusset on the sides?

The closure...is it Velcro?

Could someone who has an old one send me it for a pattern?  Maybe I could come
up with a leather one for you guys.....

I do have the holster clip for the back...same thing....Let me know...

Cathy

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In a message dated 98-06-15 12:37:49 EDT, you write:
>  Have to tried Van Buerg's List program. It's probably the most popular
>  file reader for DOS environments. I use it along with a porgram called
>  Zipray that let's me keep text files in a zip archive, scroll through
>  the list of text files, and read them without having to unzip first. (it
>  does actually unzip to <stdout> but it's transparent.)
>
There are many versions going back many years.  Get a version c1990
and it'll be half size and still work great.

yor pal al........................

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:09:12 -0500
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On 06-15 04:49pm, had been written:

# I bought a HP620LX about a month ago, cute machine. I returned it and had my
#  200LX
# upgraded with 32 meg, happy now.


I guess I may have sounded like I was looking down my nose at HP3/6XX
users.  That is not the case and should have made that clear.  If
anything, I'm envious of the raw hosepower under the hood with the
Hitachi SH3 series microprocessors.  An excellent engine indeed.  I
just dont like the implementation operating system-wise.

Now, the HP800LX - 80C486, 16MB ram, 512MB Flash C drive, Dos 6.22, type
3 Pcmcia, 256 color 1/2 vga, same size and weight, $500 US...
Oh well, time to wake up now...

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Rummaging through my attic, I found the following:
9 pin male to 25 pin male, part number 5181-6640  (for serial =
printers??)
9 pin male to 9 pin male, PN 5181-6639  (crossover for standard =
serial??)

I have my guesses as to what they are, but I know someone knows exactly!

AATIA!

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number=20
5181-6640&nbsp; (for serial printers??)</FONT></DIV>
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5181-6639&nbsp;=20
(crossover for standard serial??)</FONT></DIV>
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> On 06-15 11:36am, had been written:
>
> # > > the palmtop will need a Ctrl-Lshit-On reboot.
> #
> # Oops, that's LShift.  I am embarrassed.. <g>
> #
>
> That's Aww, Sh*t on reboot, anyway... <g>

I guess the sequence would be Ctrl-LShift-ON-Y-OSh*t!-OSh*t!-OSh*t!  :-)

Gee, how fast a discussion on compilers/debuggers can degenerate
into such trash... I love it.. :-)

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Comments: To: di970225@DIKU.DK

On 06-15 04:59pm, had been written:

# > # > Also on a 32mB machine
# > # As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
# > # prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).  Thus
# > # your comment above looked initially like a 32 millibyte machine!!!
# > # That's not even a single bit!
# > # -Chris
# > Yah, but think how cheap memory upgeades would be then! <g>
#
# now if we were _really_ pedantic, speaking of units smaller than one bit
# wouldn't really make sense, would they? :-)
# Regards,
# Laust

Sure, it's the latest improvement from Mack!  The 32microbit machine
upgrade from times2Tech.  Think how fast disk optimizer would run!

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Hello LX'ers

I have an ACE 2mb SRAM card with doubling software to 4 mb, but the
software is for the 95LX. Does anyone know if there is public domain
software to double the capacity of my 2mb card?

thanks,
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:54:18 -0700
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barrym wrote:

> I'm also ignorant about the apps for Win CE but I do have a good idea of
> the number of programs for the 200lx.  I have no way to compare but I'd be
> surprised if the number of 200lx apps wasnt hundreds of times greater than
> the number for CE, and I wouldnt be surprised if there were thousands
> more.

There are lots of CE apps appearing every day but so far most I have
found has been of questionable usefulness.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:21:49 +1000
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> Nagasawa san
> What is a RIP OFF pouch?
>
> I do have a 99% new leather pouch for
> the belt. It carries the LX horizontally.
>
> Hello the Frenchman with the LX, you
> know who you are. Is it still available?
>
> Yor ami al .....................

Sorry, are you speaking about me?
What is available?

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:27:28 -0700
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Acckkkk.. I have upgraded to ACT 4.0x and have been using ACT for Palmtops for
years on my trusty HP.  Now with 4.0, the HP is no longer supported... There
hasn't been an upgrade to the palmtop version for years.. but I was living
with
it... Has anyone here worked a "link" for the new version of ACT to my HP?  At
one time it was discussed what to write...

Tonia Sams: Your magazine source.
http:\\www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Ring/6694/   Please note new address.
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<html>
<font size=3>Acckkkk.. I have upgraded to ACT 4.0x and have been using
ACT for Palmtops for years on my trusty HP.&nbsp; Now with 4.0, the HP is
no longer supported... There hasn't been an upgrade to the palmtop
version for years.. but I was living with it... Has anyone here worked a
&quot;link&quot; for the new version of ACT to my HP?&nbsp; At one time
it was discussed what to write...<br>
</font><br>
Tonia Sams: Your magazine source.&nbsp;
http:\\<a href="http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Ring/6694/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Ring/6694/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
Please note new address.
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:28:02 +1000
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Ho I understund now,
It's not me.
I  the french man from Paris living in Australia.
and I don't want to sell my Lx.
regards
Alain
> Who was the Frenchman in Paris with a LX
> to Sell?  Is it still available?
>
> Leave particulars and home contact.


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:34:43 +1000
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Subject:      Re: Mailfile editor
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This one of many raison I'm using Pegasus Mail
Dos, Win 3.xx win 95 Files are compatible.
It's possible to copy a folder (with mail) from one computer to another one.
regards
Alain
> Okay, perhaps I'm being a luddite here, but what I'd really like to do is
> just transfer some plain old POP3 mail files (individual messages) from my
> home computer to my 200lx so that I can hash out my replies when I'm away
> from home, and then transfer the replies back to my home computer so that
> they can be uploaded to the mail server.


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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:37:21 +1000
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hi,
I would like to try Lotusworks.
Can you send me a copy, please.
regards
Al
Al
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I have been playing with SC on my palmtop and have now developed `the
fault'. Previously I had been stopping and restarting SC without
rebooting under the assumption that once SC was unloaded that was all
that mattered however this evening I reset the date back and played
around verifying that I could consistently reinitialise SC without
problems UNTIL I rebooted the palmtop at which point I developed the
same problem everyone else has been reporting.

The only way I can think to explain this (and my Dos knowledge is
hazy) is that rebooting must set an environment variable that SC uses
internally? Anyone know what environment variables are set internally
by Dos - anything like boot date for example?

Other people on HPHAND that had reported no problems are also recinding
their statements after further testing - there is only one holdout for
no problems and he has been unavailable to comment.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:50:06 -0400
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I have pulled out my Smart fax/modem PCMCIA card that I frequently used
several years ago with my HP200lx.  Cannot get it to work.  No dial
tone.  Can you guys help me out?  I have emailed the tech support people
at Smart Technology (now Apex).  They have not responded.

Here's the set up:

1.  The card is set up as drive G.  I am able to communicate with the
card as a data
storage drive without any problems (read and write).  I can run 200lx
application
programs from the data files stored on the card.  So, it seems that the
machine is able to communicate with the card.    It has a capacity of 4
megs and has about 1.3 megs free.

2.  The G drive has an autoexec.bat and a config.sys file on it, and the
C drive also has an autoexec.bat and config.sys file on it.  The
autoexec.bat file on the C drive has the following line:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen1 (no rem in front of it)


3.  The modem driver is smdriver.sys 3,305 bytes and is installed on the

G drive and the C drive.

4.  The DataCom setting are as follows:

        1.  Baud = 9600
        2. Com2
        3. Parity even, Data Bits 7, Stop Bits 1
        4.  Emulation VT100
        5. Xon
        6. Phone number is entered in the little box, and I checked that

                the line has a dial tone.

5.  I am using the same phone cord that came with the modem.
Connections to the modem card (connection is to the card, not the serial

port) and wall phone jack are tight and good.

5. When I push the connection key,  I get a message on the Datacom
screen that says:  ATDTphonenumber, no dial tone.  I hear no dial tone
from the 200lx at all.

6. I am trying to connect to CompuServe.  The CompuServe phone number is

good since I connected to CompuServe successfully on my PC.

7. A few people asked me to check the autoexec.bat file on the C drive
to make sure it had the cic100 line in it.  I checked it and it DOES
have the line.   (Yes, the machine boots to the C drive.)

Any other ideas?  I still get NO CONNECTION or DIAL TONE.

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:52:59 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP issued connectors

On 06-15 05:54pm, had been written:

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# Rummaging through my attic, I found the following:
# 9 pin male to 25 pin male, part number 5181-6640  (for serial =
# printers??)
# 9 pin male to 9 pin male, PN 5181-6639  (crossover for standard =
# serial??)
#
# I have my guesses as to what they are, but I know someone knows exactly!
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# AATIA!

{Extra Trash Deleted}

Yes, that is correct for the part numbers you gave.  What was all that
other garbage tacked onto the end of you message?
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:29:56 -0700, Mark Jordan <mark_j_jordan@YAHOO.COM>
wrote:

>do an export to a comma/quote delimited text file for each of the
>appointment and task folders. Not sure what the below program does...
>but if a comma/quote delimited file can be created, this may also be a
>method for getting the data into the System Manager Appt. Book app...
>a program will just need to be written to import the comma/quoted text

Andreas Garzotto already has done something like this:
  http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/sup-srch.pl?search_phrase=ADBIO

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Subject:      Re: Pouch

Christopher

I do have a 99% new black good quality
leather pouch for the belt. It carries
the LX horizontally. It has a flap with
a velcro closure.

What more can I say, what more do you want
to know?  Will trade for LX toys, frequent
flyer miles, and will even accept $35 cash
in U.S. dollars. What am I offered.

Yor pal al .....................

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On 06-15 09:50pm, had been written:


#
# 7. A few people asked me to check the autoexec.bat file on the C drive
# to make sure it had the cic100 line in it.  I checked it and it DOES
# have the line.   (Yes, the machine boots to the C drive.)
#
# Any other ideas?  I still get NO CONNECTION or DIAL TONE.
#
# Thanks in advance.
#

Your modem is probably hosed.  Beg/borrow/steal another one long enough
to see if it works in your HP.  Use a generic setup like the one in the
built-in CC-Mail application.  If It works, you know it's likely
broken.  If it doesnt, pray it is really a setup problem, since that
would otherwise point to a problem with the 200LX itself.  Only other
thing to do is use an ohm-meter and check continuity on the cable
itself.
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:19:10 -0500
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Earl

I have a SMART modem and it has 6MB
mem using F: Are you sure it uses G:

What is Apex/Smart tele# ?
Maybe we can get it going yet.

Yor pal al .....................

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Nagasawa san

Looks good, yu gonna get one?

yor pal al........................

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Where did you get act for the 200lx?  Is it still available and how do =
you like it?
-----Original Message-----
    From: Tonia Sams <hogrider@HOME.COM>
    To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
    Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 9:31 PM
    Subject: ACT on HP200 and PC
   =20
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    Acckkkk.. I have upgraded to ACT 4.0x and have been using ACT for =
Palmtops for years on my trusty HP.  Now with 4.0, the HP is no longer =
supported... There hasn't been an upgrade to the palmtop version for =
years.. but I was living with it... Has anyone here worked a "link" for =
the new version of ACT to my HP?  At one time it was discussed what to =
write...
   =20
    Tonia Sams: Your magazine source.  =
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:26:57 EDT
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Sounds great, any Benchmarks?
Brian

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I would be interested in that modified Mini Forth.

Thanx

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I'd be interested in the that modified Pygmy 100 forth.

Thanks

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:30:02 +1000
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SRAM PCMCIA 2Mg: US$90 / AU$150
SRAM PCMCIA 1Mg: US$60 / AU$60
SRAM PCMCIA 64K: US$20 / AU$35 (quantity 2)
Brand: Poqet, Type I
For all Palmtop

Flash RAM PCMCIA 10Mg: US$100 / AU$220
Brand: HP, Model 11F1013A, Type II
For 1/200LX ...

Upgrade 1Mg for 200LX: US$20 / AU$35
+installation DOC
(I upgrade my 2Mg with a 4Mg module)

All price + shipping
Or make an offer.

I can send then from San Francisco CA
next week.
My girl will go there next week.

regards
Alain
Al
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:37:19 -0700
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>The RIPOFF is a belt holster case.
>I think it was originally made for HP
>calculators. It has a pad inside, so
>your machine is protected.


Speaking of ripoff, I use one for my 200lx and love it!

Does anyone know of anything that will work similar for a 700lx?

-Tim
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Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Hello, all.
>
> At our PDA meetings here in Oslo we lamented about the lack og a
> program to retrieve, store and edit the phone list in the telephone
> and card...

From Nokia distributors in South Africa you can get a program with which
you can manage the phone list on the 2110i...

As you live much much closer to the place where they make these 2110 GSM
phones, I am sure if you phone around, they will hear and help you <g>

Regards...

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For sale
Megahertz XJ2144 Modem
X Jack 14.4 Modem/fax
US only
Not compatible with Australia
US$30 + shipping
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:02:20 +1000
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I have not read prev posts..  so if this is off please disregard..

Have you tried ATX3 in the init string?

Also Comm port setting??

Third.. I had a modem freeze until atf0 to reset to factory settings..

Hope this helps

Russell

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi,

doesn=27t GDBIO do this (ASCII delimited files to GDB format)?

I=27ll try it out later and let y=27all know


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** Nur Empf-nger **

WRT the OS/2 versus Windows slanging match, I=27d willingly join in.

For starters, the 95-equipped machine I=27m forced to use here crashes 3-4 =
times per day, while my home machine (with Warp 4, of course) doesn=27t =
understand such fun and games.

TTFN

Fil



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>For sale
>Megahertz XJ2144 Modem
>X Jack 14.4 Modem/fax
>US only
>Not compatible with Australia

Works fine in NZ Alain.
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Shaun Gilbert (NZ)

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:54:00 -0400
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The version i have reports 6.92 and. 6.80, and I, too, had no problem.
In the past my unique problem was the following.
With my original version of Sc the system hang up completely when i
attempted to launch alpha 4 ver. 2.1 ( a programmable relational database
for Dos that use standard dbf file) from dos command line in any work area
of SC.
So for this reason my version was upgraded from Sunshine (the former owner
of SC).
Finally with the new version of SC Alpha works but the work area where i
launched it, if i forget, before schwitching to another work area,  to
close completely the programm, become "frozen".
The screen shows the same image and the HP don't accept any keyboard input
other than reset or switching to other areas.
I am partially satisfied, because at least I can  switching to the other
work areas, where all works normally.
I don't understand because this happens, it depends from SC or Alpha ?

Luca Zanetti.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:17:49 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Speaking of ripoff, I use one for my 200lx and love it!

I borrowed a Ripoff pouch from my mother-in-law (she uses a 100LX for
geneology research), and decided I didn't like it as well as my
leather pouch that I bought from EduCalc.  The main problem as I saw
it was that the PCMCIA card pocket caused the card to stick way up,
peeking out of the top of the pocket.  It seemed to be begging for
damage.  Also, it only had one pocket.  Mine has two, one inside
for PCMCIA cards, and a second one outside, that I use for various
items (business cards, postage stamps, notepad, etc...).  BTW, I
probably use the most unusual combination to carry my pouch.  I
modified the pouch by sewing in a heavy duty ring in the top, and
I clip this ring onto the belt clip that came with my Post slide rule!
Talk about mixing old and new...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:36:18 -0500
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> now if we were _really_ pedantic, speaking of units smaller than one bit
> wouldn't really make sense, would they? :-)

Well, I won't argue whether they make sense or not, but again, in my
field of engineering, we do frequently use fractional bits when refering
to certain characteristics of A/D converters.

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Is not possible make a file import & export program but in file manager
like menu driven one and not DOS command line style?

Because it would be good have integrated in one all available HPLX  file
import & export software (adbio, pq2cdf..etc.).
Of course some features additions are welcome too.


Just a suggestion.

Pablo KIM

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Al:

The card modem is using the G drive because I have assigned the F drive
to my Drive100 unit.  Drive100 is a small,  portable floppy disk drive.

Smart Modular's web site is  http://www.smartm.com/  and the email for
tech support is  mailto:support@smartm.com.

Phone number is:           4305 Cushing Parkway
                                          Fremont, CA 94538, USA
                                          Tel. (+1) 510-623-1231

I am going to email them again at the end of today, if I don't hear from
them.

Thank you for your interest.

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al chin wrote:

> Earl
>
> I have a SMART modem and it has 6MB
> mem using F: Are you sure it uses G:
>
> What is Apex/Smart tele# ?
> Maybe we can get it going yet.
>
> Yor pal al .....................
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Al:

<P>The card modem is using the G drive because I have assigned the F drive
to my Drive100 unit.&nbsp; Drive100 is a small,&nbsp; portable floppy disk
drive.

<P>Smart Modular's web site is&nbsp; <A HREF="http://www.smartm.com/">http://www.smartm.com/</A>&nbsp;
and the email for tech support is&nbsp; <A HREF="mailto:support@smartm.com">mailto:support@smartm.com.</A><A HREF="mailto:support@smartm.com"></A>

<P>Phone number is:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4305 Cushing Parkway
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Tel. (+1) 510-623-1231

<P>I am going to email them again at the end of today, if I don't hear
from them.

<P>Thank you for your interest.

<P>Earl Benson

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<P>al chin wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Earl

<P>I have a SMART modem and it has 6MB
<BR>mem using F: Are you sure it uses G:

<P>What is Apex/Smart tele# ?
<BR>Maybe we can get it going yet.

<P>Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:42:16 EDT
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Subject:      PCMCIA Case?

I am looking for something in which to carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.  Attractive
and elegant would be nice (but I'd settle for attractive and practical).
Should be protective.

What are folks using for this purpose?

- Danny

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I received no replies about this question as posted about 2 weeks ago,
so here it is one more time.  Any hints would be great....

I am looking into a caller ID unit and have found one for $25!!!  It is
a simple caller ID to RS-232 unit.  I asked their tech support what
serial protocall they use and their reply was "The protocol of the
232CID1 is RS-232 1200 baud N,8,1 from the phone company. "

Does anybody know if this will work as a Caller-ID interface to replace
the more expensive ones that are accepted by ECS?

Dan Carrington

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:00:56 -0700
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> I am looking for something in which to carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.  Attractive
> and elegant would be nice (but I'd settle for attractive and practical).
> Should be protective.
>
> What are folks using for this purpose?

I'm using the credit card slots in the back of my leather organizer.
The leather slots are a tight but reasonable fit for at least 2 cards and
my 200LX just sits on top of a reduced number of inserts and paper, the
whole of which sits on top of (and hopefully protects) the cards.

Not particularly elegant, but works for me.

- Longden

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Sorry, I sent this to the wrong list.....     Brain Fart!

Dan

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:33:22 -0500
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Wrong list or not, you have my curiosity piqued.  If it's serial, I
could certainly use it with my palmtop.  Where can you get such a
device for $25?  What is ECS?  Can you tell us if you ever learned
the format of the data, not just the serial interface protocol?

-Chris Lott

> I am looking into a caller ID unit and have found one for $25!!!  It is
> a simple caller ID to RS-232 unit.  I asked their tech support what
> serial protocall they use and their reply was "The protocol of the
> 232CID1 is RS-232 1200 baud N,8,1 from the phone company. "
>
> Does anybody know if this will work as a Caller-ID interface to replace
> the more expensive ones that are accepted by ECS?
>
> Dan Carrington


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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:46:11 -0700
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The problem with Software Carousel shows up when you:

1) Set the date to 6-13-98
2) Reboot the machine
3) Get to the "Software Carousel . . . Initializing" screen.

It should hang.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:58:41 -0400
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works in 200lx
thanks
riley@iglou.com

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:59:46 +1000
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> I don't know about compiling and editing.

I just mean any kind of multi-tasking. Ie one thing running in the
background, and something else in the foreground, for example.

> >Is this actual, honest-to-goodness multitasking, so you could compile >and
> edit +at the same time+?

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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
 10. "Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:14:22 -0700
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Al:

> > As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
> > prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).
>
> You are 100% correct, I should know better :-(

You must have meant 0.01% no? :-)

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Subject:      Re: xtce...A true super ultra  SLOW motion  DOS
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Hello:

> As conclusion:
> Actual DOS emulation on a WINCE ( eg.XTCE ) is a fantasy and dream
> yet...and maybe forever.
> :-)

Actually this product emulates the 80186, not DOS. You can run
several DOS O/S on it.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:14:13 -0700
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John,

> I just tried the Viking 33.6k modem in my single speed
> 200LX and it seemed to work well. It is rated at 144mA full
> power and 13mA sleep.

Sounds great!

> Next I used LXTCP to dial my local ISP. I set the rate at
> 33.6k and was able to connect at 38.4k. At first it would

Are you sure? There are two speeds reported: The one between
your modem and your computer, and the one between your modem
and the remote modem. The one you see is probably the
computer-modem speed.

> connect fine but fail to load the packet driver then say
> failure to read drive a. I had to plug in the AC adapter
> and then when I connected the packet driver loaded fine and
> it doanloaded my mail just fine.
> I lowered the baud rate in increments and when I got to
> 19.2k I stpped having problems when on battery power. I had
> a used pair of lithiums installed. ABC/LX said the voltage
> was at 2.62 volts.

Problems are because the palmtop cannot handle more than 19200
or so. Beyond that you lose characters and the errors begin to
pile up.

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The one-picec foldover audio cassette cases do the job.
Cut the inside tabs off. Transparent. Also can hold spare
batteries.

Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> I am looking for something in which to carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.  Attractive
> and elegant would be nice (but I'd settle for attractive and practical).
> Should be protective.
>
> What are folks using for this purpose?
>
> - Danny
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:53:42 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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The device is from B&B Electronics and is the 232CID1 for $25.  As to
the format of the data, I do not know.  That is part of my problem.

www.bb-elec.com

ECS is a home automation program that allows you to hook up various
hardwares for control and feedback and to program in something similar
to very simple basic type commands.  If, Then, Do, For, Beginif, Endif,
While, and others.  Things like,

If         Bedroom Motion Sensor    Is Now    Alarm
Then   Bedroom Light                    Set          On

You can check it out at

 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mark_gilmore_2



R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Wrong list or not, you have my curiosity piqued.  If it's serial, I
> could certainly use it with my palmtop.  Where can you get such a
> device for $25?  What is ECS?  Can you tell us if you ever learned
> the format of the data, not just the serial interface protocol?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> > I am looking into a caller ID unit and have found one for $25!!!  It
> is
> > a simple caller ID to RS-232 unit.  I asked their tech support what
> > serial protocall they use and their reply was "The protocol of the
> > 232CID1 is RS-232 1200 baud N,8,1 from the phone company. "
> >
> > Does anybody know if this will work as a Caller-ID interface to
> replace
> > the more expensive ones that are accepted by ECS?
> >
> > Dan Carrington
>
> --
>
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> > Also on a 32mB machine
>
> As an engineer, I am used to a lower-case "m" representing the milli-
> prefix (10¬-3), and an upper-case "M" for mega- prefix (10¬6).  Thus
> your comment above looked initially like a 32 millibyte machine!!!
> That's not even a single bit!

Imagine the coding efficiency! No more bloat. Windows95
installation in oh, 27bytes, Word for Windows 8 takes now 15
bytes, and Corel is a mere 22 bytes! :-) I wonder about WWW/LX
Plus - 0.0025 bytes or something like that... <g>

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:13:03 -0700
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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Luca Zanetti <LUCA.ZANETTI@NTT.IT> wrote:
> With my original version of Sc the system hang up completely when i
> attempted to launch alpha 4 ver. 2.1 ( a programmable relational database
> for Dos that use standard dbf file) from dos command line in any work area
> of SC.

I've noticed some wackiness with Alpha Four 1,1b under MaxDOS.  It
didn't freeze, but gave me a blank screen on starting A4.  If I
remembered what buttons to push I could get back to MS-DOS.  The best
fix seemed to be a combination of "mode co80" in autoexec.bat, and
setting video mode "-v3u" on the MaxDOS application entry.

(Sorry, I don't remember the experimentation I did to arrive at this,
just remember that this seemed to work the best of the combinations I
tried.)

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:42:46 +0100
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Re the carousel bug !!

Yes I had it too, very frustrating, but not just switching to area 3. SC =
hung in the
initialisation screen I finished up initialising the ram drive and re
building the hidden swap file leaving max space on C this semmed to fix
it but then again this could have been in the early hours of the 14th
so I wold not have noticed.

Ralph Thomson

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:01:19 -0700
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Yes, the bug shows up during initialization, and it hangs.  There have
been further reports that SC will freeze up if you have files in the root
directory dated 6-13-98, or directories created 6-13-98...

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:18:04 -0500
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On a similiar note, I am using a small 3.5 disk case that was meant to
carry 2 disks.  This was picked up at Wal-Mart and comes in pretty
colors :-)  All together I can put 1 PCMCIA card (modem, or my CF
adapter whichever isn't in my 200) 1 3.5 disk and 2 CF cards.  Works
perfect for me.

For my 200 I am using a case bought at Wal-Mart designed for walkman
type stereo and cassettes.  This
particular case was very ill suited for a tape player but perfect for a
HPLX.  One side is a pocket with a velcro flap and the otherside is a
zippered compartment.   The whole thing fits in my hand pretty good and
carries quite a bit. There for a while I think my girlfriend thought I
was crazy, stopping and checking out every single camera/tape/cd case I
could find and see if my 200 would fit ;-)

Let me do a quick inventory:

   200lx 5meg (quietly disguised as a HP100LX 1 meg)
   CF cards (2)
   PCMCIA/CF adapter
   PCMCIA modem
   3.5 disk
   3.5 disk case
   phone cable (palmtop.net)
   flashlight (palmtop.net)
   screwdriver set
   extra set batteries (2)
   checkbooks (2)
   pen
   pencil
   free movie passes (2)
   lockpick set

For a picture of this remarkable site check out:
   http://www.telepath.com/pillar/image/stanhp.jpg

Stan Peters wrote:
>
> The one-picec foldover audio cassette cases do the job.
> Cut the inside tabs off. Transparent. Also can hold spare
> batteries.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:02:03 -0500
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              Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
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>** Nur Empf-nger **
>
>WRT the OS/2 versus Windows slanging match, I'd willingly join in.
>
>For starters, the 95-equipped machine I'm forced to use here crashes 3-4
>times per day, while my home machine (with Warp 4, of course) doesn't
>understand such fun and games.
>
>TTFN
>
>Fil
Such is life. The Dell Win95 that I have at the desk in the lab is
reasonably stable. The HP Vectras in the lab are death on wheels. Of
course, pretty much ANYTHING in a lab is an accident waiting to happen. If
only I could convince people NOT TO TAKE A FLOPPY OUT OF THE DRIVE BEFORE
THE LITTLE GREEN LIGHT GOES OUT. Even thought of putting a happy face next
to it... Now the Macs in the lab are strangely stable...

Back to the WinCE bruhaha. I think if you look at the satisfied owners of
WinCe vs. the owners of an LX, you will note that there is a very different
demographic and usage pattern. I picked up my LX ~18 months ago because I
was disatisfied with the Sharp Wizard/PowerMac combination that I was
using. I loved the Sharp's portability, but it was pretty much just a PIM.
I loved my PowerMac's versatility and stability, but I would want a wagon
to pull it around in :(. The LX won over a Newton, a Psion, and WinCE
because it a) had a wide variety of software packages to install and use;
b) had a great set of PIM apps; c) was programmable without leaping through
hoops; d) I could play Angband on it. D being the most important of course.

I can see someone being really impressed with a WinCe machine if they own
or use Win95 and MSOffice a lot and like the two. For most people, the
selling point is the reasonable level of compatability between Office and
WinCE. And, yes, I know that the LX with DOS based apps can do a much
better job of running and communicating with Windows. The lack of a
pointing device and gobs of icons will turn off many, less tech-oriented
users. WinCE LOOKS easier and more powerful, ergo people assume that it is,
and no doubt they will be just as happy with it as they are with their
gigantic, overblown desktop, which has computing power twice that of NORAD
in the 1970's. I like the LX becuase it has never crashed on me. If it is
mostly text based, I'll live with it.

Rant off!

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:13:07 EDT
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Earl, thanks for your reply with info.

Think, that if you changed F: to G: may have an effect?
If you're using smart files, they may be configured F:
as default, ergo using G: don't make no connection.
Think of the possibilities.....................

Keep me abrest as I have a smart mem/modem for a
BU and never conneted as I like A: better.

yor pal al..............................................

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:12:27 +0100
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Help,

I decided to bite the bullet and decided to buy a used newton keyboard and
build the cable myself.  I need a little help with the wiring.  I don't
understand the terms that Adachi used in his user's guide.
I need to cut the 9-pin D-SUB off of the hp connection cable and replace it
with a mini-DIN 8-pin.
 He says to connect 1-4 DTR <--- what is DTR?  do I attach them together
GND 4-5 GND <---- I assume that means I need to attach 4 and 5 to Ground - but
where is the ground?
connect 5-2  RXD <---- what is RXD

I apologize for being clueless.  It has been ages since I was in my last
engineering class and now I am a molecular biologist.  I think that I should
still be able to put a new connector onto a cable.  I assume that when I cut
the HP cable I will see a bunch of wires and then I simply have to attach
certain wires to the 8-Pin DIN --- if I could only figure out which wires to
connect.

Thanks for the help.

-Guy

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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Case?

Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I am
looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
separate case for my LX).

Thanks.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:49:53 -0400
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<snip>


   screwdriver set
   extra set batteries (2)
   checkbooks (2)
   pen
   pencil
   free movie passes (2)
   lockpick set
    ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

What's the lockpick set for?

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:03:19 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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> Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I am
> looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
> carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
> only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
> separate case for my LX).

How about a gold plated cigarette case? You might even be able to get them
cheap these days.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:19:53 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Phil WHORTON wrote:

> ** Nur Empf-nger **
>
> WRT the OS/2 versus Windows slanging match, I'd willingly join in.

I don't really think the hplx mailing list is the best place...

For everyone here to benefit from the discussion, it would have to be
OS2 1.0 vs. Win 2.03 or something :-)))

> For starters, the 95-equipped machine I'm forced to use here crashes 3-4
> times per day, while my home machine (with Warp 4, of course) doesn't
> understand such fun and games.

The best way of comparing two OSes is not to run them on different
machines, but to run them on the same. The Win95 machine could have a
hardware problem that made it crash often.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:41:46 -0500
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I'm looking for a small text based html reader for the 200lx.  I don't
need network support, as all the files will be local.  I was thinking
lynx, but heard that it's unbearably slow.

Are WWW/LX Plux and NetTamer the only options?  I'm investigating
those now...

Thanks!
Rudy

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:49:04 +0200
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              xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
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Me complace anunciar la creacion de una lista de correo, en castellano,
para los usuarios de los ordenadores de bolsillo (palmtops). Esta dirigid=
a
a los usuarios de los HP 95/100/200LX, 3COM PalmPilot, IBM PC110, los
difuntos Apple Macintosh o sistemas con Windows CE.

Todos los interesados en el tema estan invitados a participar en esta
lista. Para suscribirse, solo es preciso enviar un mensaje en blanco a la
direccion

palmtop-subscribe@makelist.com

y responder al mensaje de autentificacion que se recibir=DF.

Si estas interesado en acceder al archivo de mensajes, puedes consultarlo=
s
en http://www.findmail.com/list/palmtop/


Saludos,
Xavi


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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:41:41 -0700
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Get HV, HTML Viewer, at SUPER, http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

It's free, and should do what you want it to for local files.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:38:02 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Case?

Oh danny boy..........

I am looking for something in which to
carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.  Attractive and
elegant would be nice.       WHY?

practical and protective. YES.

I backpack through south america and asia
and sometimes Europe and the U.S. on an
annual basis.  The last thing I want is
to have my toys get some turkeys attention.
You really don't need to impress the front
desk clerks.

When you carry your LX and cards in the
same case, When one goes all go.

I usually do research on my trips, I wouldn't
want all the work lost in one fell swoop.
Your LX and flash should always be seperate
unless you need to be working on them both
for optimal security and back up.

I'm sure you'll say the same thing after you
lose your stuff a few dozen times. Experience
is the best teacher, but its the most expensive.
Learn from the mistakes of others because you
don't have enough time to make them all yourself.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:15:13 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Try HV on Palmtop.net

Rudy Moore wrote:

> I'm looking for a small text based html reader for the 200lx.  I don't
> need network support, as all the files will be local.  I was thinking
> lynx, but heard that it's unbearably slow.
>
> Are WWW/LX Plux and NetTamer the only options?  I'm investigating
> those now...
>
> Thanks!
> Rudy
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:18:36 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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I frequently get duplicate messages from the mailing list.  Is there a
reason for this or something I can do about it?

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:38:40 +0100
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Subject:      Re: PDA: Talking to a Nokia 2110?
Comments: To: leot@ISDIAL.COM

On 06-16 07:50am,

> Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> From Nokia distributors in South Africa you can get a program with which
> you can manage the phone list on the 2110i...
>
> As you live much much closer to the place where they make these 2110 GSM
> phones, I am sure if you phone around, they will hear and help you <g>

:-) Ag, man... That costs about 500 rand here. You see, I was looking
through the manual and it is mentioned that one can do this. Why buy a new
cable and sw when it can be done via an ordinary terminal program? It will
must probably turn out that they have coded it in some way...

(Originally from Nigel, Transvaal, 1966-1979.)

Have a nice day!

Franklin

At the moment: HP 200LX + external 14.4 modem + Goin' Postal!
otherwise: Omnigo 700LX + Nokia 2110 + Goin' Postal!

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.14beta) EVALUATION

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:27:18 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Get HV, HTML Viewer, at SUPER, http://www.palmtop.net/super.html
>
> It's free, and should do what you want it to for local files.

HV is not text based.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:29:47 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Watayaknow!
I have had the same problem for over a Year with my Smart fax/modem 6M.
I had all the symptoms that you describe.
But this very day I fixed it!!!

I opened it up and located a broken operation amplifier. It is labeled
117P something and it has 8 legs. In my "Elfa" catalog it costs $20

I had a 1414L Apex modem that I had bought from from kento for $20.I
knew it had the same cable so I figured the inside was the same too -
it almost was. Ther was a 117p. I desoldered it and replaced it with
the broken one in my combo card.

NOW IT WORKS AGAIN!!!

If You try this - PLEASE be carefull when You desolder the IC. The
traces are easy to destroy.

> Subject: One more time: no modem connection
>
> I have pulled out my Smart fax/modem PCMCIA card that I frequently used
> several years ago with my HP200lx.  Cannot get it to work.  No dial
> tone.  Can you guys help me out?  I have emailed the tech support =
people
> at Smart Technology (now Apex).  They have not responded.

  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

                    64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

                    10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
                    20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
                    30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:32:50 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi Brian & All:

4 days 22h07m46s ago ...
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> If these work with the hp 95 lx of 100 lx I'll take it.

I just got my new(for me anyway) 100LX today and tested the 2"M"B CF
card  using a CF -> PCMCIA adapter, and it worked fine...no drivers
required.

BTW: the 10 x 102,349B filecopy "benchmark" on the empty card was 8.4s

Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:36:49 -0400
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Case?
Comments: To: "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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At 03:47 PM 6/16/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I am
>looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
>carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
>only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
>separate case for my LX).

Ah!  Here we go.  For snug, protective, elegant, and attractive story of
one card, you need only use the storage space provided in the palmtop!  <g>

But seriously... I wonder if a brass case designed for a 12C, or even the
basic soft one included, would work.  I'm thinking that the height of the
12C is just about the height of a PC card, in which case you could probably
store two or three (or four) cards in a 12C case.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Volkswagen-driving computer geeks.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:02:00 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Help: Making connector for Newton Keyboard
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Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:25:40 -0400 (EDT)

02h10m42s ago ...
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Guy Oshiro wrote:

> I need to cut the 9-pin D-SUB off of the hp connection cable and =
replace it
> with a mini-DIN 8-pin.
>  He says to connect 1-4 DTR <--- what is DTR?  do I attach them together
> GND 4-5 GND <---- I assume that means I need to attach 4 and 5 to =
Ground - but
> where is the ground?
> connect 5-2  RXD <---- what is RXD

Hmmm - these are all standard abbreviations for RS232 signal lines.
        DTR =3D Data Terminal Ready   (pin 4 on the HP serial port)
        GND =3D Signal Ground         (pin 5  "  "  "     "    "  )
        RXD =3D Receive Data          (pin 2                      )

There's a diagram of the port connector on page 26-8 in the 200LX
manual, or 35-3 in the 100LX manual.

I haven't seen the doc on making this connector, but the 2nd number in
each pair is the pin number on the HP serial port.  Maybe the first
number is the pin # for the mini DIN connector...

Don't know if the HP cable has consistent color codes, so you'll
probably need to check which wire goes to what pin with an ohmmeter.

HTH

-PR
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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:37:36 -0500
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Did you sing on twice, once at HP
and again at COMET?


Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:35:26 -0700
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> HV is not text based.

Okay, that's true, but it does work well for reading HTML text.  And, as
long as there aren't any inline GIFs or JPGs... <g>

Still, you're right, it works in graphics mode.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:40:18 -0500
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Get HV, HTML Viewer, at SUPER, http://www.palmtop.net/super.html
>
> It's free, and should do what you want it to for local files.

HV is not text based.

How about a pgm called: KNOTS?

Regards,

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:06:56 +0200
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> > HV is not text based.
>
> Okay, that's true, but it does work well for reading HTML text.  And, as
> long as there aren't any inline GIFs or JPGs... <g>

Yes, HV is an excellent HTML viewer, I keep it on my LX as well. (afterall
it's so small!). I would rather have had Lynx, but alas Bobcat is slow and
500kb+

> Still, you're right, it works in graphics mode.

Graphics mode isn't the problem for me. I've thought of emulating Lynx by
replacing all the fonts with monospaced ones (because there are times when
I actually need to view monospaced HTML text), but even then it would give
some problems as the keyboard controls are somewhat different to those in
Lynx (which I use often).

BTW. Please check the To: field to ensure that you don't send the message
to both the list and the poster. Either way I get the message so there's
no need to use both :-)


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:58:06 +0200
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I have a HP 95 LX and there is no way I can transfer some files to a PC (it
worked for a while, but it doesn't work anymore).

I used communication programs with the serial port, not possible, I also tried
to do transfer from this HP 95 LX to a HP 200 LX in using the IR port, and it
did not work neither. The only thing I succeeded in doing is in printing out
files (like the agenda book) on the IR port, and then I got something correct in
the communication software of the HP 200 LX (but it's not really useful to do
backups)

I am not familiar with the communication ports, but it seems to me that the HP
95 does not receive the communication control signals.

Is this possible? Is there someone with the same problem? Does someone know a
way to analyze / fix the problem?

Thanks for your help.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:35:45 +0200
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Looc Sautour wrote:

> I have a HP 95 LX and there is no way I can transfer some files to a PC (it
> worked for a while, but it doesn't work anymore).
>
> I used communication programs with the serial port, not possible, I also tried
> to do transfer from this HP 95 LX to a HP 200 LX in using the IR port, and it
> did not work neither. The only thing I succeeded in doing is in printing out
> files (like the agenda book) on the IR port, and then I got something correct in
> the communication software of the HP 200 LX (but it's not really useful to do
> backups)
>
> I am not familiar with the communication ports, but it seems to me that the HP
> 95 does not receive the communication control signals.

The 95LX can only operate at 2400bps when using IR, so make sure you set
the 200LX for 2400bps as well.

Other than the communications settings being wrong, I can only think of
the IR reciever being broken. That would explain why you could send and
not recieve. I don't know how to fix it, though.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:46:48 -0500
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> How about a pgm called: KNOTS?

I haven't heard about that one.  I'll look into it.

I was going to also suggest a slightly different category of programs,
those which convert HTML files into plain text.  I recently tried a
number of different ones, and chose HTMSTRIP by Bruce Guthrie of Wayne
Software.  Another, more simpler one, is H2T by David Colston.

These read in an HTML file and spew forth a formatted text file.  This
isn't *exactly* what you wanted, but it indeed operates entirely in
text mode.

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Hi Richard
Have you adjusted somwere in your browser to leave the message on the
server ?

Thomas Senn

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> reason for this or something I can do about it?
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Thanks for the suggestions, but:
- My browser (Netscape Communicator 4.04) is set to delete the files on
the server.
- I only subscribed to the list once.
Some of the messages are original messages and some are replies - there
doesn't seem to be a pattern to them.
Still puzzled...

- Richard Smith


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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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oi cheeko
como esta?
favor,
aqui se habla engles, solamente.
muchas gracias

:) tu amigo al.................


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<snip>


   screwdriver set
   extra set batteries (2)
   checkbooks (2)
   pen
   pencil
   free movie passes (2)
   lockpick set
    ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

What's the lockpick set for?

To pick locks, silly.............

:) Yor pal al .....................

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Has anyone done any extensive testing on HP Palmtops (that is, the
"good" ones, ie: DOS-based ;-). ) for year 2000 compatability?  Are they
compliant?  I tested the hardware (2MB 200LX, BIOS Ver. 1.02a) and it
seems to be, can any one confrim it?  What about the software?

I intend to use my palmtop well into the next century - at least until
this WinCE fad dies down!

- Richard Smith

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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Has anyone done any extensive testing on HP Palmtops (that is, the
> "good" ones, ie: DOS-based ;-). ) for year 2000 compatability?  Are they
> compliant?  I tested the hardware (2MB 200LX, BIOS Ver. 1.02a) and it
> seems to be, can any one confrim it?  What about the software?

All of the support structure of the 200LX is compatible: the hardware, the
BIOS, and the built-in software.  There has been some concern about Lotus
1-2-3, but it seems that it will cause only minor changes in column
widths... although I almost never use it, so I'm not sure about that.

The software you RUN on the 200LX, on the other hand, may well be Y2K
incompatible.  I believe Quickens prior to version 5 were not compliant,
but few of us run those on the palmtop anyway.


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o you still have the modem?
Thanks,
Bob Figlio

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Good deal.
I tried Computer City but they did not have any.
Gotta act faster, I guess.
Bob

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:26:06 -0500
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On 06-16 10:14am, had been written:

# John,
#
# > Next I used LXTCP to dial my local ISP. I set the rate at
# > 33.6k and was able to connect at 38.4k. At first it would
#
# Are you sure? There are two speeds reported: The one between
# your modem and your computer, and the one between your modem
# and the remote modem. The one you see is probably the
# computer-modem speed.
#
#
# Problems are because the palmtop cannot handle more than 19200
# or so. Beyond that you lose characters and the errors begin to
# pile up.

Many times I've seen this about 19.2 being the HP200's upper limit for
data throughput, but have yet to see a "why", just that it won't work
properly.  I understand that when using the Com1 serial port, the built
in UART is no great shakes and is the limiting factor here.  What I
still fail to understand is what limits the data rate when using a fast
PCMCIA modem, since it has its own UART internal to the modem.Ýusually
a 16550, aren't they?¨  If there is some other limitation inside the
HP200, why doesn't it cause problems when Mitch, Dave, and Neil are
using their Ethernet cards?  From what I have read, the throughput
between the HP and the other machine seems to be MUCH faster than the
serial link method when using the Acton Ethernet card.  At least, I
hope so, since I have ordered one.  Any illumination on this subject
would be appreciated.

Regards,
-
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     mark beutler                           mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

     "Those who live by the sword get shot by those who do not."
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.14beta) REGISTERED

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On 06-16 01:18pm, had been written:


# carries quite a bit. There for a while I think my girlfriend thought I
# was crazy, stopping and checking out every single camera/tape/cd case I
# could find and see if my 200 would fit ;-)
#
# Let me do a quick inventory:
#
#    200lx 5meg (quietly disguised as a HP100LX 1 meg)
#    CF cards (2)
#    PCMCIA/CF adapter
#    PCMCIA modem
#    3.5 disk
#    3.5 disk case
#    phone cable (palmtop.net)
#    flashlight (palmtop.net)
#    screwdriver set
#    extra set batteries (2)
#    checkbooks (2)
#    pen
#    pencil
#    free movie passes (2)
#    lockpick set
# --
# Stan Hall
# Pillar Communication
# http://www.telepath.com/pillar
#

Lockpick set?  You are an interesting fellow, Stan.  <g>

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> Many times I've seen this about 19.2 being the HP200's upper limit for
> data throughput, but have yet to see a "why", just that it won't work
> properly.  I understand that when using the Com1 serial port, the built
> in UART is no great shakes and is the limiting factor here.  What I
> still fail to understand is what limits the data rate when using a fast
> PCMCIA modem, since it has its own UART internal to the modem.Ýusually
> a 16550, aren't they?¨  If there is some other limitation inside the
> HP200, why doesn't it cause problems when Mitch, Dave, and Neil are
> using their Ethernet cards?  From what I have read, the throughput
> between the HP and the other machine seems to be MUCH faster than the
> serial link method when using the Acton Ethernet card.  At least, I
> hope so, since I have ordered one.  Any illumination on this subject
> would be appreciated.

With an 8250, you get an interrupt every character.  The LX has to
stop what it's doing, store some information, get the character, restore
that information, and go back to what it was doing.  If another character
completes before it's done all this you lose it.  With a 16550, the
chip can buffer a few characters itself so it's alot less critical, but
instead of "get the character", you need to "get all the characters".  You
save the interrupt latency but still need to process those characters
into the buffering mechanism.  With Ethernet, you get one interrupt
every packet (64 to 1540? bytes) and usually a more efficient method to
deal with the data.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:32:58 EDT
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Hey Kilgore

What about the MAC10 with ammo and the kitchen sink?

 :}
yor pal al........................

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barrym wrote:
>
> Contact Borland (now Inprise) and they'll sell you a license to copy
> an out of date version of one of their programs for $50.  Then with
> that license, anyone who has the program can legally give you a copy
> of it.
> I don't know of any company but Borland that does this and, in my
> opinion, it's pretty nice of them to do it.  They've always been the
> most accomodating about licensing issues.

Actually, the last time I contacted Borland after hearing the $50 license
deal, they told me that you must buy a later version (Turbo C++ 3.0 is
still sold) and then you can apply that license to version 1.0, and not use
both at the same time.

Very nice of them.
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Good deal.
I tried Computer City but they did not have any.
Gotta act faster, I guess.
Bob

_____________________reply seperator___________

Its in a catalog they send out. The item number is 31-92885
for a cellular capatible one. You can call 800-992-5488,and
order one or order one through the store. Compusa also
sells a non celluler for 99 and they had them in stock.


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> > Contact Borland (now Inprise) and they'll sell you a license to copy
> > an out of date version of one of their programs for $50.  Then with
> > that license, anyone who has the program can legally give you a copy
> > of it.
>
> Actually, the last time I contacted Borland after hearing the $50 license
> deal, they told me that you must buy a later version (Turbo C++ 3.0 is
> still sold) and then you can apply that license to version 1.0, and not use
> both at the same time.

Well, which is it?  Has anyone actually paid $50 for the license?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:26:09 +0200
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Dear Avi,

as always, thank You for Your good support, Your quick answers. This
makes the real value beside a good product!-

--------------------------------------------------------------------
The following  part of message relates to Your previous answer, I got a =
daemon for my sent message because I tried to send from another E-Mail-acc=
ount, which was not registered by the list...
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> > 1. Would You recommend any Directory-Structure in WWW/LX and how
> > would...
>
> I use one single directory for everything except the archive
> folders, which I put on A:. The rest is in C: drive...

Yes, You're right, important is a good structured program. I moved all
to c:\www and changed the configs...

> > 2. I've set filters in the Newsgroups-Setup for
> > comp.sys.palmtops (for  example excluding Casio, Psion, etc.

> Newsgroups uses the Subject line to filter items. If I write
> in the subject "200LX stinks" you'll get it even if the rest
> of the post talks about how great 620LX is. Is this how you
> expected this to work?

But this is, what I'm  wondering about, most of the messages do have the
excluded terms in the subject-line, casio or libretto etc! If they
would have HP as subject and would talk about Win CE <g>, I could bear
that, this happens not so often. But I still get all the stuff, which is =
quite annoying!

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Now the new stuff...


> > ...the more I use WWW/LX, the more I like it! <g>...

> Sounds like an addiction! <g>

*** Yes it is, I've become a real victim!!! <g>

> > I tried to use the HP220LX built-in Editor Memo instead of

> I want one of those HP 220LX!!!

*** Me too! <g> - What I forgot to say, I really like PE, it was just to =
try!

> > PalEdit. I followed the Setup-hint of Martin Kellinghaus
> > (www-faq) to change the scan code for german machines, but I
> > don't get Memo when I compose or edit a message. And when I
> > don't assign PE as external editor, I end up in the dos
> > command-line.

> If you try to access MEMO after closing System Manager it will
> not work. Closing System Manager also closes MeMO.

That did the trick, thanks!

1) Is it objected or possible, to password-protect www/lx, to prevent =
logging-in (without having password-protected the HP, which is, as we =
know, not so safe)? Maybe it's a silly question, maybe I've overseen =
something...)

2) Is it possible to start www/lx with the option to change from, say, =
Post/LX to HV without www/lx automatically disconnecting? Disconnecting =
and reconnecting means always losing payed online-time in Germany, =
because they charge local calls not per second, they charge in time-blocks=
...

Thanks & cheers,

Axel

**************************************************************************=
*****
* Axel KLAG * aklag@t-online.de * http://kleist.dwelle.de * HP200LX & =
Post/LX*
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I didn't slip that past anyone did I :-)

> #    lockpick set

> Lockpick set?  You are an interesting fellow, Stan.  <g>

Speaking of lockpicks and interesting, it seems that locksmithing is an
interest of mine. If anyone is really curious, check out my page and the
Amateur Locksmith Mailing List:
   http://www.telepath.com/pillar

As far as the MAC10 that would probably be better discussed on the
Weapons List (see my site).

The sink is sitting in my living room, though it is the bathroom sink,
and I don't think it would fit anyway. Anyone want pictures?

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:09:49 +0100
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Hi all,

I've been monitoring this list for a while and I feel that I should
interject to set the XTCE record straight (being the author of XTCE).

Currently the entire emulation is written in C/C++ (with small parts of
the XT BIOS written in x86 assembly). Whereas this allows me to write
very portable code (90% of the emulation can be compiled for any system
with a decent C++ compiler), it doesn't produce the fastest code on
earth.

My first aim is to produce an XT clone that is as portable and
compatible as possible. I'm sure that the more far-sighted of you will
realise that this is probably the only way machines will run DOS
programs in the future. Once this goal is nearing completion as will
hopefully be the case with the next version, I will be spending my
efforts on rewriting portions of the CPU emulation in RISC assembly for
the MIPS and SH3 processors.

Currently the emulation runs at the speed of an XT anywhere between 4.77
Mhz and 8 Mhz (depending on which machine you run it on and how you
measure the speed). I expect this to increase at least 4x when the CPU
emulation has been rewritten... This should put it up with the double
speed 200LXs...

This is a very new product (I haven't even released a retail version as
yet), give it time... The video emulation is already 5-10x faster than
the first version I did. The INT5F PAL emulation is at least 10x faster
than running INT5F TSR's under the emulation...

As a group I'm trying to cater for HP-LX users as much as possible as I
realise that this group is most likely to need a product like this in
the future. Currently I've provided INT5F (PAL) and 80186 (as opposed to
8086) emulation purely to accomodate ex-HPLX users. When time allows I
will probably try to get portions of the HP-LX BIOS to run under XTCE.
This will allow users of the built-in applications to run them under
XTCE as well. I also plan on porting XTCE to the Psion 5 at some stage.
This will allow some people to run a non-MS DOS (such as Caldera DR-DOS)
on a non-Intel non-Microsoft palmtop, which can't be a bad thing...

What is XTCE?:

XTCE emulates a 80186 CPU with up to 992Kb of RAM (736Kb conventional,
256Kb upper memory), 2 x 360Kb-2.88Mb floppy drives, full CGA (with
colour on colour machines), a mouse, all standard XT hardware (with the
exception of the DMA controller).

This allows XTCE to 'boot' almost any operating system designed for a XT
compatible computer. XTCE has been tested with MS DOS up to (and
including) v 6.22, Caldera OpenDR-DOS up to (and including) v 7.02, ELKS
(embedded Linux kernel), Windows 3.0 and a large amount of DOS software
including some games (Larry, Flight Simulator, Frotz). It also is able
to run most INT5F (PAL) applications, it has been tested with HV (HTML
viewer), PalEdit (editor), Dominoes and samples from the PAL developer
library.

The retail version will also emulate a hard disk and (as a free upgrade
later), be able to access the WindowsCE file system as a network drive.
There are already utilities at present to copy files between the
WindowsCE and DOS file systems.

In addition there will be a free documented API, allowing third party
developers to make XTCE addons to emulate other hardware (or to run
other APIs like INT5F natively).

Hope this was of some interest...

Ian Dean

XTCE website:

www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

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oye al
Yo hablo Ingles y Espanol.
I don't see anything wrong with the request of forming a Spanish palmtop
user's group'

Jeffcom

al chin wrote:

> oi cheeko
> como esta?
> favor,
> aqui se habla engles, solamente.
> muchas gracias
>
> :) tu amigo al.................
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:41:20 +0200
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A. Meshar ÝSMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨

you wrote/explain about locally login into CompuServe and then when
inside CompuServe grab your Email from other sources than CompuServe
Email. I do have too a second ISP and would be interested if you (or
others) could give me some more background information and/or resources.

Harry Wellner, Europe-The Netherlands

================================

   >> Compuserve as a gateway? I'm looking for the most cost effective
way to
   >> keep in touch in September when I pop over the pond to explore New
   >> England.
   >
   >Neither would. To pick up email from your ISP you need an
   >internet access. Neither acCIS nor DOSCIM provide this. They
   >both access Compuserve's proprietary email.
   >
   >You can get Compuserve account but you'll need to get an
   >internet communications program. We have one WWW/LX Plus, and
   >there is very good and venerable competition to us in the form
   >of Goin' Postal and NetTamer.
   >
   >Tnne you can login locally to a Compuserve node, hook up to
   >their PPP Gateway and point to your ISP's email servers and
   >download you email. The connection would be llocal to CIS,
   >then over internet to the rest of the way.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 02:43:09 -0400
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              Israel Tokayer <itokayer@ARACNET.NET>
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Great idea.
You can have it monogramed.

Longden C. Loo wrote:

> > Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I am
> > looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
> > carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
> > only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
> > separate case for my LX).
>
> How about a gold plated cigarette case? You might even be able to get them
> cheap these days.
>
> - Longden
>
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what does shipping cost to Oregon?

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 02:31:25 -0400
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              Israel Tokayer <itokayer@ARACNET.NET>
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If anyone needs a solid heavy duty leather case for their palmtop, please
check out what Case-Tech has available.
I own one of their cases, and without it my 200LX would be mush by now.

Jeffcom

Christopher Lott wrote:

> > Speaking of ripoff, I use one for my 200lx and love it!
>
> I borrowed a Ripoff pouch from my mother-in-law (she uses a 100LX for
> geneology research), and decided I didn't like it as well as my
> leather pouch that I bought from EduCalc.  The main problem as I saw
> it was that the PCMCIA card pocket caused the card to stick way up,
> peeking out of the top of the pocket.  It seemed to be begging for
> damage.  Also, it only had one pocket.  Mine has two, one inside
> for PCMCIA cards, and a second one outside, that I use for various
> items (business cards, postage stamps, notepad, etc...).  BTW, I
> probably use the most unusual combination to carry my pouch.  I
> modified the pouch by sewing in a heavy duty ring in the top, and
> I clip this ring onto the belt clip that came with my Post slide rule!
> Talk about mixing old and new...
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> --
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:58:36 +0010
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Thanx to speak english.

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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>
>
> There are lots of CE apps appearing every day but so far most I have
> found has been of questionable usefulness.
>

Being on the road constantly, I mastered the art of 2 finger typing on the
200LXwhile holding on to the steering wheel.
There's no chance of doing that withe my Z-PDA, the now extinct Pilot 1000, or
the NEC Mobilepro 400.
The clincher is the built in Macro capabilities.
In the evenings, when I'm relaxing in my hotel room, I use the Libretto for my
invoicing and other accounting procedures.
M.Y.O.B. Accounting is only available for Windows and Mac OS.
Up until now I ran a DOS accounting program in the LX, but formatting the
printout was a bit tricky.
So it's 200LX in my belt case and Libretto in my tool case.

Jeffcom



> --
> 73
>
> Nick Marsh
> WB4SQI
>
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I've got the same problem.  I'm only signed on once.  I used a Juno
account to sign in so there isn't an option to keep copies on the server.
 My suspicion is that the "problem" is with the poster.

Occasionally, the way you reply can throw another copy of the address in
the CC field.
If this is what is causing it, there isn't anything you can do.  Posters
can watch their posts closer but thats all.

All the information in this group is so terrific though that reading it
twice can hardly be seen as a problem.

Larry Zimmerman

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:18:36 -0600 "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith"
<rsmith@ENOL.COM> writes:
>I frequently get duplicate messages from the mailing list.  Is there a
>reason for this or something I can do about it?
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Thanks!
Bob

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I have a couple of black leather sleeves designed for pcmcia cards so
that I could do exactly this. I picked them up from another palmtop
user at a HPHAND palmtop meet a couple of weeks ago. I will try to
find out where he got them from - One Stop Palmtop Shop I think but
I will confirm and get back to you.

GaryS

> Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I =
am
> looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
> carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
> only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
> separate case for my LX).

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:49:02 +0200
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It's the k = 1000 and K = 1024
It doesn't work with M and G !
Jez the nit picker

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Author:  tom\.laroche at SMTP/dd.RFC-822=tom_laroche@HP\.COM
Date:    15/06/98 18:42


In computerese especially HHDs, 'M' is often used for mega (1,048,576)
bytes and 'm' for million (1,000,000) bytes. (Or is it the other way
around?)

Tom

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Neither do I - just try to keep the number of messages written in spanish =
to a minimum - there=27s so much interesting stuff going on, that it=27d =
be nice to understand it all.

As a related topic, how many german-speaking people are on the list (if =
you want to reply in German, please send private mails to avoid frustrating=
 others <G>

Phil

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>>> Israel Tokayer <itokayer=40ARACNET.NET> 17.06.98 8.53 >>>
oye al
Yo hablo Ingles y Espanol.
I don=27t see anything wrong with the request of forming a Spanish palmtop
user=27s group=27

Jeffcom

al chin wrote:

> oi cheeko
> como esta?
> favor,
> aqui se habla engles, solamente.
> muchas gracias
>
> :) tu amigo al.................
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              hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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 > oi cheeko
 > como esta?
 > favor,
 > aqui se habla engles, solamente.
 > muchas gracias

Si hablemos ingles, solamente, por que escritas el espan~ol alla?

Pues, pienso que hay muchos aqui que podria hablar el espanol, si les
permitirias.  Que bueno.  <s>  ;)

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:08:33 -0400
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I applogize for this test to the list.  I'm trying to find out why my a=
ppends
always showed up hacked to pieces.

----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7

----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7-=
---+----8

----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7-=
---+----8----+----9

----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7-=
---+----8----+----9----+----0

----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7
----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7-=
---+----8
----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7-=
---+----8----+----9
----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7-=
---+----8----+----9----+----0

----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+----7

----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- -=
---+----8

----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- -=
---+----
----+----9

----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- -=
---+----
----+---- ----+----0

----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+----7
----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- -=
---+----8
----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- -=
---+----
----+----9
----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- ----+---- -=
---+----
----+---- ----+----0

Russ Brooks
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Besides the manual tests, I've called HP and had them fax me a statement of
compliance as part of my company's Y2K program. They say the 200lx and all
built-in software is fully compliant, with the exception of the DOS date
bug. For those of you that don't know, all versions of DOS have the DATE
command to set the date. If you enter a 4-digit year everything is o.k., but
DATE will accept a 2-digit year as well, which is a no-no.
I'm still not convinced on the Quicken issue, but I'm not testing it with my
live data in there (Palmtop Quicken is the only version I have).

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 7:37 PM
Subject: Y2K


>Has anyone done any extensive testing on HP Palmtops (that is, the
>"good" ones, ie: DOS-based ;-). ) for year 2000 compatability?  Are they
>compliant?  I tested the hardware (2MB 200LX, BIOS Ver. 1.02a) and it
>seems to be, can any one confrim it?  What about the software?
>
>I intend to use my palmtop well into the next century - at least until
>this WinCE fad dies down!
>
>- Richard Smith
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In a message dated 98-06-16 17:44:12 EDT,
>  At 03:47 PM 6/16/98 EDT, you wrote:
>  >Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I am
>  >looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
>  >carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
>  >only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
>  >separate case for my LX).
>
>  Ah!  Here we go.  For snug, protective, elegant, and attractive story of
>  one card, you need only use the storage space provided in the palmtop!  <g>
>
>  But seriously... I wonder if a brass case designed for a 12C, or even the
>  basic soft one included, would work.  I'm thinking that the height of the
>  12C is just about the height of a PC card, in which case you could probably
>  store two or three (or four) cards in a 12C case.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-->
For a really cheep or free one that works great..........

Use one of those plastic DISKETTE insert or cover give
aways at computer shows..  Just cut them down to size.
You can also cut  a piece of the curved edge to cover the
serial port when your on the road.  They fit very snug
like a bug in a rug.

I got a few at CHI comdex recently from DIGITAL and I'm
sure they'll have them at the upcoming PC-EXPO in NYC.

yor pal al....................................

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 07:34:35 -0600
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I recently went to an interview where the person interviewing me had a
copy of my resume that I had emailed to them earlier (from my HP200 of
course). I noticed that it didn't look very good because there were
returns in the middle of lines. It appeared that whatever this person
had used to print my resume used fewer characters per row than I had set
up in Memo. I had set my left margin at 1 and my right at 81.

Although they're not shown, I believe Memo inserts soft returns at the
end of each line (at the count of 81 characters), thereby causing the
half lines that I saw on this hard copy. Is there any way, short of
setting the margins conservatively (say at 1 and 65) that you can set up
Memo to have text files adapt to the recipients particular settings?

Thanks for any help.

Tom
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:48:16 -0700
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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RipOffs is located in Riverside, CA and will sell their products directly do
to EduCalc's demise.
>
There are two other *great* locations for cases:
1. E & B Cases www.ebcases.com
2. www.rhinoskin.com
>
Hope this helps.

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Sent:   17 June, 1998 06:35
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: PCMCIA Case?

In a message dated 98-06-16 17:44:12 EDT,
>  At 03:47 PM 6/16/98 EDT, you wrote:
>  >Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I
am
>  >looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
>  >carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
>  >only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
>  >separate case for my LX).
>
>  Ah!  Here we go.  For snug, protective, elegant, and attractive story of
>  one card, you need only use the storage space provided in the palmtop!
<g>
>
>  But seriously... I wonder if a brass case designed for a 12C, or even the
>  basic soft one included, would work.  I'm thinking that the height of the
>  12C is just about the height of a PC card, in which case you could
probably
>  store two or three (or four) cards in a 12C case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-->
For a really cheep or free one that works great..........

Use one of those plastic DISKETTE insert or cover give
aways at computer shows..  Just cut them down to size.
You can also cut  a piece of the curved edge to cover the
serial port when your on the road.  They fit very snug
like a bug in a rug.

I got a few at CHI comdex recently from DIGITAL and I'm
sure they'll have them at the upcoming PC-EXPO in NYC.

yor pal al....................................

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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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There is a full, lengthy description of Y2K compatibility on HP's website at
www.hp.com/handhelds that details all palmtop compatibility. The 200LX and
all 3/6x0LX units are fully compliant.
>
Bernie Torbik
www.shoresystems.net


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Sent:   17 June, 1998 06:29
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Y2K

Besides the manual tests, I've called HP and had them fax me a statement of
compliance as part of my company's Y2K program. They say the 200lx and all
built-in software is fully compliant, with the exception of the DOS date
bug. For those of you that don't know, all versions of DOS have the DATE
command to set the date. If you enter a 4-digit year everything is o.k., but
DATE will accept a 2-digit year as well, which is a no-no.
I'm still not convinced on the Quicken issue, but I'm not testing it with my
live data in there (Palmtop Quicken is the only version I have).

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

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From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 7:37 PM
Subject: Y2K


>Has anyone done any extensive testing on HP Palmtops (that is, the
>"good" ones, ie: DOS-based ;-). ) for year 2000 compatability?  Are they
>compliant?  I tested the hardware (2MB 200LX, BIOS Ver. 1.02a) and it
>seems to be, can any one confrim it?  What about the software?
>
>I intend to use my palmtop well into the next century - at least until
>this WinCE fad dies down!
>
>- Richard Smith
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:46:37 -0400
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For the PCMCIA cards, I have a made for PCMCIA carrier that I picked up
several years ago at some computer store. It doesn't have a name on it, but
it holds 2 typeII or 1 typeIII and is built like a tank. You won't slip it
in your pocket to easily but there's no way short of jumping up and down on
it that you could hurt the cards.
For my 200lx, I picked up one of those nylon book holders they sell at most
of the book stores nowadays. It has 2 zippered compartments, with one of the
compartments having a zippered mesh bag inside it. It holds my 200lx, the
aforementioned PCMCIA carrier, serial cable, phone cable, Leatherman,
checkbook/notebook, and whatever half-dozen accessories I think I might need
someday.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

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From: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Case?


>Oh danny boy..........
>
>I am looking for something in which to
>carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.  Attractive and
>elegant would be nice.       WHY?
>
>practical and protective. YES.
>
>I backpack through south america and asia
>and sometimes Europe and the U.S. on an
>annual basis.  The last thing I want is
>to have my toys get some turkeys attention.
>You really don't need to impress the front
>desk clerks.
>
>When you carry your LX and cards in the
>same case, When one goes all go.
>
>I usually do research on my trips, I wouldn't
>want all the work lost in one fell swoop.
>Your LX and flash should always be seperate
>unless you need to be working on them both
>for optimal security and back up.
>
>I'm sure you'll say the same thing after you
>lose your stuff a few dozen times. Experience
>is the best teacher, but its the most expensive.
>Learn from the mistakes of others because you
>don't have enough time to make them all yourself.
>
>Yor pal al .....................
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:47:33 +0100
Reply-To:     russell@excelsys.co.uk
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From:         Russell Albert <webmaster@EXCELSYS.CO.UK>
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but did it lose you the job?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Thomas C. Lange
> Sent: 17 June 1998 14:35
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Text files in Memo
>
>
> I recently went to an interview where the person interviewing me had a
> copy of my resume that I had emailed to them earlier (from my HP200 of
> course). I noticed that it didn't look very good because there were
> returns in the middle of lines. It appeared that whatever this person
> had used to print my resume used fewer characters per row
> than I had set
> up in Memo. I had set my left margin at 1 and my right at 81.
>
> Although they're not shown, I believe Memo inserts soft returns at the
> end of each line (at the count of 81 characters), thereby causing the
> half lines that I saw on this hard copy. Is there any way, short of
> setting the margins conservatively (say at 1 and 65) that you
> can set up
> Memo to have text files adapt to the recipients particular settings?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Tom
> --
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>
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Date:         Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:34:23 +1000
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I didn't notice any Probleme or bug.

HOO,

I don't use SC
:))
alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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For those of you interested in getting a portable printer, MicroWarehouse
(www.microwarehouse.com) is now selling the Citizen PN60i (item # PRI2168)
for $99.99. I had to order one to make sure, but yes indeed it is true. It
doesn't come with the battery but I didn't expect it to (you can order it
separately).
I don't know why (dropping the line, misprint, etc) but considering this
machine goes for $299 or more virtually everywhere else I would say this is
a deal. I thought about ordering a bunch and then reselling them to make a
profit, but that Ferengi thing just never has taken hold in my blood ;)

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> For those of you interested in getting a portable printer, MicroWarehouse
> (www.microwarehouse.com) is now selling the Citizen PN60i (item # PRI2168)

Patrick:

Have you any information about using this printer with the 200LX?  I haven't
kept up with compatible printers in a long time.  I noticed it uses and IR
interface - compatible w/HP200LX or not?  Is there another interface,
serial and/or parallel?  Drivers (only Windows was mentioned)?

Thanks,
-Chris


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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:18:24 -0300
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              Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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Isn=B4t  there any success with dealing SCSI PCMCIA card  (panasonic or
adaptec brand) on HPLX yet?

Thanks.

Pablo KIM

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:22:20 -0300
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              Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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Subject:      Re: Spanish Palmtop's mailing list
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Hi Al...

It=B4s not a obligation use just english in this list.

The HPLX is so much palmtop to use in english only.
:-)

Pablo KIM

=20


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> De: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
> A:=20
> Asunto: Re: Spanish Palmtop's mailing list
> Fecha: Martes 16 de Junio de 1998 6:22 PM
>=20
> oi cheeko
> como esta?
> favor,
> aqui se habla engles, solamente.
> muchas gracias
>=20
> :) tu amigo al.................
>=20
>=20
> _____________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:22:52 -0300
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Hola! Xavier...

Es un poco tarde e irreal tu calificativo  acerca de Apple
Macintosh...DIFUNTO.
Ya que cada vez hay mas adeptos y ya esta preparado para reemplazar al
Windows system que ya bastante problemas tiene por todos lados e
inevitablemente llegara tarde o temprano (+ temprano...) a su merecido fi=
n.

Por favor rectifiquese o ratifiquese su dicho.
:-)

A proposito, muy buena tu propuesta de spanish list serv.
Ya estoy suscripto y pronto un amigo mio tambien.

Pablo KIM

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De: xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
A:=20
Asunto: Spanish Palmtop's mailing list
Fecha: Martes 16 de Junio de 1998 11:49 AM

Me complace anunciar la creacion de una lista de correo, en castellano,
para los usuarios de los ordenadores de bolsillo (palmtops). Esta dirigid=
a
a los usuarios de los HP 95/100/200LX, 3COM PalmPilot, IBM PC110, los
difuntos Apple Macintosh o sistemas con Windows CE.

Todos los interesados en el tema estan invitados a participar en esta
lista. Para suscribirse, solo es preciso enviar un mensaje en blanco a la
direccion

palmtop-subscribe@makelist.com

y responder al mensaje de autentificacion que se recibir=DF.

Si estas interesado en acceder al archivo de mensajes, puedes consultarlo=
s
en http://www.findmail.com/list/palmtop/


Saludos,
Xavi


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A 8mm tape backup data cartridge case provide a better protection than
audio cassette case.
As it is made of flexible plastic it doesn=B4t breack  in case of drop.
Also you have protection from dust because  it's hermetically closing.

Pablo KIM

=20


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> De: Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
> A:=20
> Asunto: Re: PCMCIA Case?
> Fecha: Martes 16 de Junio de 1998 12:24 PM
>=20
> The one-picec foldover audio cassette cases do the job.
> Cut the inside tabs off. Transparent. Also can hold spare
> batteries.
>=20
> Daniel Z. Sands wrote:
>=20
> > I am looking for something in which to carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.=20
Attractive
> > and elegant would be nice (but I'd settle for attractive and
practical).
> > Should be protective.
> >
> > What are folks using for this purpose?
> >
> > - Danny
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I have 3 flash cards: a 20MB Sandisk, a 15MB SimpleTech CF w/adapter
and a 4MB Kodak CF. All three will work in my 200LX and in my desktop
with its SCM Swapbox. Only the 20MB Sandisk will work in any of the 3
Win95 laptops I have tried: IBM ThinkPad, Dell Latitude, Compaq. The
CF cards are not recognized (actually, they are totally ignored) by
the laptops. Has anyone else noticed this kind of behavior?

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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It's probably better to send a text file as a .doc or .rtf file. You can
use an old copy of Word for windows or dos or use the docrtf utility to
convert formatted memo files to an RTF document. Word is usually
associated with .rtf files and will open when the file attachment is
"double-clicked".


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Russell Albert Ýmailto:webmaster@EXCELSYS.CO.UK¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 17, 1998 9:48 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Text files in Memo

                but did it lose you the job?

                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: HPLX Mailing List
Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
                > Thomas C. Lange
                > Sent: 17 June 1998 14:35
                > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                > Subject: Text files in Memo
                >
                >
                > I recently went to an interview where the person
interviewing me had a
                > copy of my resume that I had emailed to them earlier
(from my HP200 of
                > course). I noticed that it didn't look very good
because there were
                > returns in the middle of lines. It appeared that
whatever this person
                > had used to print my resume used fewer characters per
row
                > than I had set
                > up in Memo. I had set my left margin at 1 and my right
at 81.
                >
                > Although they're not shown, I believe Memo inserts
soft returns at the
                > end of each line (at the count of 81 characters),
thereby causing the
                > half lines that I saw on this hard copy. Is there any
way, short of
                > setting the margins conservatively (say at 1 and 65)
that you
                > can set up
                > Memo to have text files adapt to the recipients
particular settings?
                >
                > Thanks for any help.
                >
                > Tom
                > --
                > Tom Lange
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:46:50 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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From:         David Sargeant <istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM>
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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Well, which is it?  Has anyone actually paid $50 for the license?

Speaking from personal experience, they have either discontinued the $50
license program, or never had it to begin with.  The _only_ way to obtain
a license for an abandoned Borland product is to buy a version they still
sell, not use that product, and instead use the older version (wherever
you can get it from).

With Turbo C++, version 1.0 works on the palmtop, so you would buy a newer
version (I believe they still sell 3.0 for DOS Ýwhich cannot run on the
200LX¨ and 4.5 for Windows) and then not use the version you purchased,
but instead use 1.0.

 --
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:04:03 EDT
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Case?
Comments: To: Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>

Great idea!  Thanks.

- Danny

Text of message from hyun@MOVI.COM.AR, 17 Jun 1998, 11:21 AM
> A 8mm tape backup data cartridge case provide a better protection than
> audio cassette case.
> As it is made of flexible plastic it doesn=B4t breack  in case of drop.
> Also you have protection from dust because  it's hermetically closing.
>
> Pablo KIM
>
> =20
>
>
> ----------
> > De: Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
> > A:=20
> > Asunto: Re: PCMCIA Case?
> > Fecha: Martes 16 de Junio de 1998 12:24 PM
> >=20
> > The one-picec foldover audio cassette cases do the job.
> > Cut the inside tabs off. Transparent. Also can hold spare
> > batteries.
> >=20
> > Daniel Z. Sands wrote:
> >=20
> > > I am looking for something in which to carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.=20
> Attractive
> > > and elegant would be nice (but I'd settle for attractive and
> practical).
> > > Should be protective.
> > >
> > > What are folks using for this purpose?
> > >
> > > - Danny
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              "S.Todd" <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On Sat, 6 Jun 1998 Alain Psyche <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU> wrote:

>Hi,
>I'm using Berlitz interpreter (version 1.30), this is a 5 language
translater,
>It's an old and small ( 840K) DOS prog but there is only 12500 world per=

>language. regards (english, Francais, deutshe, espagnol, italiano)
>If some one have another French/English translator,>please, Tell me.

>I would like to try a dictionnary like Heritage too.

>Please help a Frog lost in a Kangarou contry.

See:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk

The Series 100 Multilingual Dictionary includes English to and
from French, Spanish, German, and Italian. and Spanish-English.
It works well on the 200LX.

Collins (rhcc) also offers an English dictionary and thesaurus.
Version 1 runs on the 200LX.

For other suggestions, see the archives for this list.

S.Todd

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:23:40 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I know a few people on this list have poo-poo'ed  XTCE but I, for one,
think it is one hell of an accomplishment. Gate$ & Co. specifically
wanted to exclude a character-based interface in CE but now we have one.
XTCE may not be a product you want but I think Ian deserves respect  for
what he's done. It may be the only upgrade path for LX that we'll ever
see short of a Libretto type thing.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Ian Dean Ýmailto:hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 17, 1998 4:10 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        ÝHPLX-L¨ XTCE

                Hi all,

                I've been monitoring this list for a while and I feel
that I should
                interject to set the XTCE record straight (being the
author of XTCE).

                Currently the entire emulation is written in C/C++ (with
small parts of
                the XT BIOS written in x86 assembly). Whereas this
allows me to write
                very portable code (90% of the emulation can be compiled
for any system
                with a decent C++ compiler), it doesn't produce the
fastest code on
                earth.

                Snip't.............


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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:16:56 -0500
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              "John L. Stanley" <jls@GOLDENGATE.NET>
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From:         "John L. Stanley" <jls@GOLDENGATE.NET>
Organization: Dynasoft
Subject:      Re: Communication with HP 95 LX <-> PC <-> HP 200 LX
Comments: To: "Loic.Sautour@wanadoo.fr" <Loic.Sautour@wanadoo.fr>

On Tuesday, June 16, 1998 4:58 PM, Looc Sautour
ÝSMTP:Loic.Sautour@wanadoo.fr¨ wrote:
> I have a HP 95 LX and there is no way I can transfer some files to a PC
(it
> worked for a while, but it doesn't work anymore).

  I know of a local shop that had several 95LX Communicator Kit sets, in
the original boxes.  I don't know what they're asking for them currently (I
think it was $75 last time I looked), but if you give me a price you'd be
willing to pay, I'd be willing to try and talk them into selling one at or
near that price.

  (Before I get inundated, let me remind the list that these do NOT work
with a 100LX or 200LX.  Just the 95LX (and some earlier high-end HP
calculators).)

  As an alternative, if all you're trying to do is to get the files from a
95LX to a 200LX, why not just dump them onto a 95LX-compatable PCMCIA card?

---
John L. Stanley <jls@goldengate.net>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:19:58 -0400
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From:         Chris Holloway <cjholloway@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: html reader
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:41:46 -0500, Rudy Moore <orn@CS.WISC.EDU> wrote:

or> I'm looking for a small text based html reader for the 200lx.  I =
don't
or> need network support, as all the files will be local.  I was thinking
or> lynx, but heard that it's unbearably slow.
or>
or> Are WWW/LX Plux and NetTamer the only options?  I'm investigating
or> those now...
or>
or> Thanks!
or> Rudy
or>

Rudy,  HV is an excellent html reader.  You can download it at the D&A
Software page (home of WWW/LX and Plus).  The price is right too!

Chris

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:19:50 -0400
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Case?
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:42:16 EDT, "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.=
EDU> wrote:

ds> I am looking for something in which to carry 1-3 PCMCIA cards.  =
Attractive
ds> and elegant would be nice (but I'd settle for attractive and practical=
).
ds> Should be protective.
ds>
ds> What are folks using for this purpose?
ds>
ds> - Danny
ds>

For a nice, but somewhat pricey case for PC cards, look at
levenger.com   I use their palmtop carrying case, having worn out my
EduCalc leather Desk case, for my 200LX, pc cards, short moden cords,
two batteries, a pen and paper to write notes on.  They make good stuff
and specialize in leather.

 Chris Holloway  Using an HP200LX and PostLX

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:35:57 -0700
Reply-To:     "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@world.northgrum.com>
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From:         "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Text files in Memo
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> It's probably better to send a text file as a .doc or .rtf file. You can
> use an old copy of Word for windows or dos or use the docrtf utility to
> convert formatted memo files to an RTF document. Word is usually
> associated with .rtf files and will open when the file attachment is
> "double-clicked".

I'm checking out the job market these days and I'm finding (as maybe the
original poster did) that more of the interviewers these days are asking
for the resume in plain ASCII, merged in the body of the note.

Presumably this obivates the need for them to OCR scan the document for
keyword searches and perhaps all attached word-processor formats are just
converted to a lowest-common denominator format for filing.

That being the case, the unexpected breaks caused by Memo shouldn't affect
anything but the aesthetics, but I'm in complete sympathy with someone who
meets an interviewer holding a mis-formatted copy of their resume <g>.

- Longden

PS - The 200LX is my job-hunting nerve center right now. It tracks my
contacts, holds my resume and job history and handles my emailing to
prospects. Now if it could only bake bread..<g>

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:03:08 -0400
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Ian,

I for one applaud your efforts.  Yes, it may actually increase the number
of CE users while forfeiting some 200LX growth, but in the end, I think it
still speaks a clear message to CE developers:

WE WANT COLOR DOS PALMTOPS!!!   NOW!!!

And this last bit:

 > I also plan on porting XTCE to the Psion 5 at some stage.
 > This will allow some people to run a non-MS DOS (such as Caldera DR-DOS)
 > on a non-Intel non-Microsoft palmtop, which can't be a bad thing...

Not a bad thing at all!  I think that is the BEST move you could make.

Thanks, Ian.  Keep it up, and you will be a rich man.

---
hplx

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:13:38 -0600
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              Tom Jones <thj@FLASH.NET>
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APS Technologies sells one that looks like what you are looking for.  From
their Spring 98 catalog:

     PC Card Case
     Transport, store and protect your valuable PC Cards (PCMCIA)
     in this handy case.  It holds up to six Type I or Type II cards
     and has an airtight seal to protect them from dust and dirt.
     (.875" H x 5.8" W x 5.125" D)
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     105272                    PC CARD CASE                  $10.95

You can contact APS Technologies via any of the following:

Sales:     800 374-5688
Corporate: 800 554-3941
24 Hr FAX: 816 483-3077
WWW:       http://www.apstech.com/
email:     sales@apstech.com
           support@apstech.com
           service@apstech.com
Address:   APS Technologies
           6131 Deramus
           P.O. Box 4987
           Kansas City, MO 64120-0087

I'm not affiliated with APS, just on their mailing list.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:31:42 +0200
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              xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
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>It=B4s not a obligation use just english in this list.
>The HPLX is so much palmtop to use in english only.
>:-)

Obviously, it wasn't my goal to offend nobody sending my last message in
Spanish. In fact, I though that just reading the subject, all the
English-speaking people will be so smart to understand that it was just an
announcement addressed to the Spanish-speaking palmtop community.

Well, it seems that some people is not so smart, so please accept my
apologies if that message was so difficult for your limited-size brain.

Also, please stop sending messages to the list about this. They're
deffinitively off-topic.


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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:37:30 +0200
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              xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
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>Es un poco tarde e irreal tu calificativo  acerca de Apple
>Macintosh...DIFUNTO.

Ops! My fault! I didn't want to say Macintosh; I just wanted to say "the
deceased Apple Newton". I'm sorry!

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:59:17 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Whoo- boy de flames are a'flyin'....... We have a similar debate raging
here in New York City. Some people resent the fact that many public
signs are provided in Spanish for the minority. I hear that, in Miami,
people resent the English signs provided for the minority :-> .

Just to keep it in topic... Are there Spanish versions of the LX? I've
heard of German versions.


BTW: yo hablo el Espanol pero no le escribo tan bueno.


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   xavier caballe Ýmailto:xavi@CABALLE.COM¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 17, 1998 7:32 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        ÝHPLX-L¨ Spanish mailing list

                >It=B4s not a obligation use just english in this list.
                >The HPLX is so much palmtop to use in english only.
                >:-)

                Obviously, it wasn't my goal to offend nobody sending my
last message in
                Spanish. In fact, I though that just reading the
subject, all the
                English-speaking people will be so smart to understand
that it was just an
                announcement addressed to the Spanish-speaking palmtop
community.

                Well, it seems that some people is not so smart, so
please accept my
                apologies if that message was so difficult for your
limited-size brain.

                Also, please stop sending messages to the list about
this. They're
                deffinitively off-topic.


                Xavi
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:07:21 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Dictionary for HPLX
In-Reply-To:  <199806171204_MC2-407E-EDE9@compuserve.com> from "S.Todd" at Jun
              17, 98 12:04:54 pm
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> Collins (rhcc) also offers an English dictionary and thesaurus.
> Version 1 runs on the 200LX.

I can't find any mention of Version 1 on their web site - can one still
obtain it?

-Chris


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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:10:24 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hey Mitch & All:

02h51m19s ago ...
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> I have 3 flash cards: a 20MB Sandisk, a 15MB SimpleTech CF w/adapter
> and a 4MB Kodak CF. All three will work in my 200LX and in my desktop
> with its SCM Swapbox. Only the 20MB Sandisk will work in any of the 3
> Win95 laptops I have tried: IBM ThinkPad, Dell Latitude, Compaq. The
> CF cards are not recognized (actually, they are totally ignored) by
> the laptops. Has anyone else noticed this kind of behavior?

I just tried my 15MB IBM ThinkPad File (SunDisk PCMCIA FLASH), my 2MB
SanDisk CF, and my 8MB PNY VersaCard in my OmniBook 4000C running
Win3.11, all worked fine.

Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:10:30 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

     The official language of the HPLX-L is English. While I certainly
don't wish to insult any listmembers, I also do not want to exclude
anyone from the free exchange of information on this list. I also need
to monitor the content of messages sent to the list in the event of
inapproiate posts. It is assumed that all list members are somewhat
English speaking. Let me encourage all of you post your questions
without embarassment as to your proficiency in English, we'll figure it
out. If a question does pop up in a language other than English, would
one of you multi-lingual folks do me the favour of translation?

     I would encourage anyone starting a Spanish, German, French...
Palmtop list to post there announcement here in "native tounge". I just
don't want a tread in a foriegn(to me that is), to become ongoing.

Thank you all for making this a most rewarding project.

BTW we are almost up to 1K err... I mean 1000 <g>.

Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:20:12 +0200
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              xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
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From:         xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Spanish palmtop
Comments: To: "'HPLX.Mailing.List
          <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>"@rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com
In-Reply-To:  <ED29C0E690D4D1118B3E00104B1F46923E6C@ntbox.wagweb.com>

>Just to keep it in topic... Are there Spanish versions of the LX? I've
>heard of German versions.

Yes, sure! We have a Spanish version of the laptop. It's sold at least
here in Spain.


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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:15:08 -0600
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No te preocupes Xavier:

Yo ya me dm de baja en la lista en Ingles y me acabo de dar de alta en
la lista que se recomendo para mensajes en Espaqol.

De cualquier forma muy apreciable la idea que tienes del correo en
Espaqol.

Saludos desde Mexico!

xavier caballe wrote:
>
> >Es un poco tarde e irreal tu calificativo  acerca de Apple
> >Macintosh...DIFUNTO.
>
> Ops! My fault! I didn't want to say Macintosh; I just wanted to say "the
> deceased Apple Newton". I'm sorry!
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:41:07 -0500
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              Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Text files in Memo
Comments: To: tclange@USWEST.COM
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>I recently went to an interview where the person interviewing me had a
>copy of my resume that I had emailed to them earlier (from my HP200 of
>course). I noticed that it didn't look very good because there were
>returns in the middle of lines. It appeared that whatever this person
>had used to print my resume used fewer characters per row than I had set
>up in Memo. I had set my left margin at 1 and my right at 81.
>
>Although they're not shown, I believe Memo inserts soft returns at the
>end of each line (at the count of 81 characters), thereby causing the
>half lines that I saw on this hard copy. Is there any way, short of
>setting the margins conservatively (say at 1 and 65) that you can set up
>Memo to have text files adapt to the recipients particular settings?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Tom
I use a DOS app called Sleek that I dl'ed from Simtel. It will insert hard
returned at a specified line length. Also at Simtel, under the Gnuish
mirror, is an archive of their text utilities. Check out fmt and pr
especially. This is probably the safest way to go, unless your recipient
has and LX or a copy of VDE on hand to read you file.
 Have fun - srl

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:48:25 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:44:40 -0500 (EST)

01h34m10s ago ...
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Al Kind wrote:

>...
>      I would encourage anyone starting a Spanish, German, French...
> Palmtop list to post there announcement here in "native tounge". I just
                                                          ¬¬¬¬¬¬
> don't want a tread in a foriegn(to me that is), to become ongoing.
>              ¬¬¬¬¬      ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

Upon rereading my post, I concur I'm not that fluent in English either
<VBG>

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:01:04 -0400
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              River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Citizen PN60i FS cheap
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The PN60i works with my 200lx via serial port (a direct cable from Shier
Systems). It came with a parallel cable and according to the Citizen
paperwork you can order a serial cable kit for regular laptops/desktops.
I have yet to get the IR ports working right. The PN60i shows data being
received but doesn't output anything. I can't find the info on the 200lx IR
port, but the PN60i IR port is SIR 1.0. Any help is appreciated.
The only drivers that come with the PN60i are Windows 3.1/95, but it
emulates IBM proprinter and a whole bunch of Epsons.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
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From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Citizen PN60i FS cheap


>> For those of you interested in getting a portable printer, MicroWarehouse
>> (www.microwarehouse.com) is now selling the Citizen PN60i (item #
PRI2168)
>
>Patrick:
>
>Have you any information about using this printer with the 200LX?  I
haven't
>kept up with compatible printers in a long time.  I noticed it uses and IR
>interface - compatible w/HP200LX or not?  Is there another interface,
>serial and/or parallel?  Drivers (only Windows was mentioned)?
>
>Thanks,
>-Chris
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:08:07 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:32:50 -0400, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
wrote:

> I just got my new(for me anyway) 100LX today and tested the 2"M"B CF
> card  using a CF -> PCMCIA adapter, and it worked fine...no drivers
> required.

Thanks for the info. Al.
That means that the SanDisk cards should work in the Omnibook 300 then.
Do you have access to a Omnibook to try it?

Also I was wondering if anybody has or is using one of those SanDisk
ImageMate External Flash Memory Drives ($99.98 PC Zone).

It sits on your desktop and acts like a removable drive, treating the
compactflash card like a diskette.

If so I'd like to here from you.

Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:13:01 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Check where the message is sent from.  I have had people do a reply to
all senders and receipients which ships a message to me directly and
then ships one to the list which bounces a second one from the list to
me.  This may be your problem.

Dan Carrington




Larry Zimmerman wrote:

> I've got the same problem.  I'm only signed on once.  I used a Juno
> account to sign in so there isn't an option to keep copies on the
> server.
>  My suspicion is that the "problem" is with the poster.
>
> Occasionally, the way you reply can throw another copy of the address
> in
> the CC field.
> If this is what is causing it, there isn't anything you can do.
> Posters
> can watch their posts closer but thats all.
>
> All the information in this group is so terrific though that reading
> it
> twice can hardly be seen as a problem.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:18:36 -0600 "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith"
> <rsmith@ENOL.COM> writes:
> >I frequently get duplicate messages from the mailing list.  Is there
> a
> >reason for this or something I can do about it?
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 > I also plan on porting XTCE to the Psion 5 at some stage.
 > This will allow some people to run a non-MS DOS (such as
Caldera DR-DOS)
 > on a non-Intel non-Microsoft palmtop, which can't be a bad
thing...

When you port it to the psion keep it compatible with the
geofox. The geofox is a psion 5 compatible without a
touchscreen and with a seperate numeric keyboard. A larger
screen also. A much better machine.

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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Has anyone gotten Linux ELKS working on the 200LX
Comments: To: Ian Dean <hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK>
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This has been asked before but, since there are new members and new
knowledge every day....


I've heard it has been done on XTCE which is very simlilar to the 200lx
(80186 emulation..). If anyone has tried it, I would like feedback. If
not, I'm gonna check it out a I'll let ya know what happens.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:38:06 -0700
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Subject:      Re: html reader
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> HV is not text based.

Right! It is graphical.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:37:59 -0700
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> I'm looking for a small text based html reader for the 200lx.  I don't
> need network support, as all the files will be local.  I was thinking
> lynx, but heard that it's unbearably slow.
>
> Are WWW/LX Plux and NetTamer the only options?  I'm investigating
> those now...

If all you want is HTML viewing without connecting to the
Internet, go to our Web page http://www.dasoft.com, and grab
HV21.EXE (follow to the WWW/LX Plus link, then Download, then
check the text for link to HV21.EXE. It will expand itself, it
is freeware by itself. Enjoy!

If you need to connect to internet then it is a different
ballgame, and you can try our product and see if you like it.
Details right where you'll be visiting...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:49:06 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > HV is not text based.
>
> Right! It is graphical.

Obviously!


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:52:11 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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Subject:      Re: Has anyone gotten Linux ELKS working on the 200LX
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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Ed Padin wrote:

> This has been asked before but, since there are new members and new
> knowledge every day....
>
>
> I've heard it has been done on XTCE which is very simlilar to the 200lx
> (80186 emulation..). If anyone has tried it, I would like feedback. If
> not, I'm gonna check it out a I'll let ya know what happens.

I cannot help you, as I haven't tried it yet either... But why not try
Minix instead? ELKS is still in the alpha stages, while Minix should be
much more stable. Just a thought...

For Minix info go to:

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:09:55 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>you wrote/explain about locally login into CompuServe and then when
>inside CompuServe grab your Email from other sources than CompuServe
>Email. I do have too a second ISP and would be interested if you (or
>others) could give me some more background information and/or resources.=


There are three ways:

1) If you can log into your other account, you can telnet from DOSCIM
and read your mail.
I can for example telnet to jaguar.westminster.ac.uk, login and execute
the UNIX mail program from my account.

2) You can execute a DOS-ppp program that connects to Compuserve PPP and
use any DOS mail program set up to fetch mail at your current ISP. This
will not work if your current ISP have hidden their mail server under a
special login (I cannot for example fetch my Compuserve mail from my
University account as CIS wants me to login (=3Dpay)).

(I would think you can do 1) and/or 2) from the Internet Cafe's around
the world and save the CIS account if you just want to read your mail).

3) You can change your mail address to one of the mail redirection
servers, for example BIGFOOT (www.bigfoot.com) and tell your friends to
mail you via Harry@bigfoot.com (or whatever name you use) in future.
You can anytime change the final mail address from your current ISP to
Compuserve and later change back. This is free of charge and they seem
to have good spam-protection as I have never received any via bigfoot
(but after this remark I will probably be swamped!).

Some professional organisations also provide this kind of redirection
(eg IEEE).

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:31:21 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Removable flash drive

Qman

Yo!

External Flash Memory Drives ($99.98 PC Zone).
sits on your desktop and acts like a removable
drive, treating the compactflash card like a
diskette.

If so I'd like to here from you.
Here I am, what about it?

Regards,

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:07:44 -0400
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              River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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Since my company has decided to burden me (compared to a 200lx and a
Libretto) with an IBM 560x, I've decided to get rid of my Libretto 50ct. I
thought I could continue to use the Libretto,  but I'm defeating my
lightweight ambitions by carrying three machines everywhere I go. I can work
one personal system (a 200lx), but I can't manage two plus the IBM.
Anyway here it goes. Thought I'd give you guys first shot.
The list is as follows:

Libretto 50ct (P75, 810mb)
upgraded to 32mb RAM
extended and regular battery
extended and regular port replicator
external battery charger
Xircom 33.6 Modem / 10b-T Ethernet Card w/ Minidock
EXP 8x PCMCIA CD-ROM
Windows 95

$800 US. COD or advance payment. Will work with you on shipping.

Any offers please send privately to rivrwolf@hom.net

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:19:09 -0700
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Absolutely!! It's an excellent product that gives me 200LX functionality on a 620LX. He's done a great job.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Ed Padin ÝSMTP:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
Sent:   Wednesday, June 17, 1998 9:24 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: XTCE

I know a few people on this list have poo-poo'ed  XTCE but I, for one,
think it is one hell of an accomplishment. Gate$ & Co. specifically
wanted to exclude a character-based interface in CE but now we have one.
XTCE may not be a product you want but I think Ian deserves respect  for
what he's done. It may be the only upgrade path for LX that we'll ever
see short of a Libretto type thing.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Ian Dean Ýmailto:hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 17, 1998 4:10 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        ÝHPLX-L¨ XTCE

                Hi all,

                I've been monitoring this list for a while and I feel
that I should
                interject to set the XTCE record straight (being the
author of XTCE).

                Currently the entire emulation is written in C/C++ (with
small parts of
                the XT BIOS written in x86 assembly). Whereas this
allows me to write
                very portable code (90% of the emulation can be compiled
for any system
                with a decent C++ compiler), it doesn't produce the
fastest code on
                earth.

                Snip't.............


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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:33:29 -0700
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> HV is not text based.

So? I don't understand the issue with text based vs. graphical
based. The HTML documents that arrive are ALL text (ASCII) and
they just get interpreted and "painted" on the screen by HV in
a graphical form. I am kinda puzzled about this...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:46:58 -0400
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> >My favorite is still TAWK (Thompson AWK from Thompson Automation).
>
> TAWK: I use AWK extensively for all kinds of things but have never =
tried
> a compiling AWK - that sounds interesting. Are the executables big?
> And if small, how much is it?

There are various ways of running it.  On my non-doubled 200, it takes 10 =
to 80 seconds to compile a program, depending on complexity.  The executab=
le is 32K for most things, but then you also have to have the run-time =
library (~175K) available in the PATH.  You have the option of linking in =
this library to make a standalone exe, but then you've got 200K.

You also have the option of running the source code without compiling it. =
 Then, the latest version of TAWK does the compile on the fly, so that's =
pretty slow on an HPLX, although on a Pentium you don't even have time to =
blink.  An older version of TAWK (which I keep on my C: drive) runs the =
source code interpretively and is a slightly faster way of running a .awk =
source file.

See www.teleport.com/~thompson/tawk.html for more info.  Cost is around =
$120 for all 3 DOS, WinNT and OS2 versions.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:06:49 -0400
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              hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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Okay, so I ordered my jeteye 9610A IR connector.  It works with a terminal
program at 115200 speed.  It only works at 115200 speed, in fact.

I have both NT and Win95 machines I need to exchange data with.  On NT, I
did get W32 Filer to work at 115200 and the connectivity kit, but neither
of these solutions is optimal as I have to use the clunky Filer for all my
file transfers.

Has anyone got a better solution:  Interlnk or Laplink working on NT 4.0?
(Problem w/ interlnk, if it will work, is that I have to eat up 200LX
system ram loading device=interlnk.exe at bootup.)

What else is there?

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:32:17 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to know that you are
incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy a 200lx?

Ian Dean wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been monitoring this list for a while and I feel that I should
> interject to set the XTCE record straight (being the author of XTCE).
>
> Currently the entire emulation is written in C/C++ (with small parts of
> the XT BIOS written in x86 assembly). Whereas this allows me to write
> very portable code (90% of the emulation can be compiled for any system
> with a decent C++ compiler), it doesn't produce the fastest code on
> earth.
>
> My first aim is to produce an XT clone that is as portable and
> compatible as possible. I'm sure that the more far-sighted of you will
> realise that this is probably the only way machines will run DOS
> programs in the future. Once this goal is nearing completion as will
> hopefully be the case with the next version, I will be spending my
> efforts on rewriting portions of the CPU emulation in RISC assembly for
> the MIPS and SH3 processors.
>
> Currently the emulation runs at the speed of an XT anywhere between 4.77
> Mhz and 8 Mhz (depending on which machine you run it on and how you
> measure the speed). I expect this to increase at least 4x when the CPU
> emulation has been rewritten... This should put it up with the double
> speed 200LXs...
>
> This is a very new product (I haven't even released a retail version as
> yet), give it time... The video emulation is already 5-10x faster than
> the first version I did. The INT5F PAL emulation is at least 10x faster
> than running INT5F TSR's under the emulation...
>
> As a group I'm trying to cater for HP-LX users as much as possible as I
> realise that this group is most likely to need a product like this in
> the future. Currently I've provided INT5F (PAL) and 80186 (as opposed to
> 8086) emulation purely to accomodate ex-HPLX users. When time allows I
> will probably try to get portions of the HP-LX BIOS to run under XTCE.
> This will allow users of the built-in applications to run them under
> XTCE as well. I also plan on porting XTCE to the Psion 5 at some stage.
> This will allow some people to run a non-MS DOS (such as Caldera DR-DOS)
> on a non-Intel non-Microsoft palmtop, which can't be a bad thing...
>
> What is XTCE?:
>
> XTCE emulates a 80186 CPU with up to 992Kb of RAM (736Kb conventional,
> 256Kb upper memory), 2 x 360Kb-2.88Mb floppy drives, full CGA (with
> colour on colour machines), a mouse, all standard XT hardware (with the
> exception of the DMA controller).
>
> This allows XTCE to 'boot' almost any operating system designed for a XT
> compatible computer. XTCE has been tested with MS DOS up to (and
> including) v 6.22, Caldera OpenDR-DOS up to (and including) v 7.02, ELKS
> (embedded Linux kernel), Windows 3.0 and a large amount of DOS software
> including some games (Larry, Flight Simulator, Frotz). It also is able
> to run most INT5F (PAL) applications, it has been tested with HV (HTML
> viewer), PalEdit (editor), Dominoes and samples from the PAL developer
> library.
>
> The retail version will also emulate a hard disk and (as a free upgrade
> later), be able to access the WindowsCE file system as a network drive.
> There are already utilities at present to copy files between the
> WindowsCE and DOS file systems.
>
> In addition there will be a free documented API, allowing third party
> developers to make XTCE addons to emulate other hardware (or to run
> other APIs like INT5F natively).
>
> Hope this was of some interest...
>
> Ian Dean
>
> XTCE website:
>
> www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html
>
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:46:37 -0500
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I have used for years a tsr called dtime that displays a little 8 character
digital clock in the upper right corner of my screen. Problem is that it
only works in text mode. Graphics mode either kills it or renders it into a
little sting of pixels. As I wasted TOO much time yesterday playing
dominoes, I've my eye out for something that will also work in graphics
mode. Is there such a critter? I'm looking for nothing elaborate, just the
time.

TIA- srl

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:41:08 -0700
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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to know that you are
> incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy a 200lx?

XT-CE is looking to carry us well into the future, after HP has phased out
the 200LX and is focusing full-time on the WinCE machines.  Did anybody
see on HP's web site that the 660LX is out now?  It appears to be a 620LX
with 32MB RAM and a 56K modem built-in.  Nothing too exciting.

Now, if the battery life of the WinCE machines can be improved, and the
speed greatly extended to run XT-CE as fast as a 200LX, we'll actually
have a decent replacement when our 200LX's break down!  (As if that will
ever happen.  <g> )

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:51:40 -0400
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On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Jim Johnson <jjohnson@TMCC.COM> wrote:
>Does anyone know of a Spanish-English-Spanish Dictionary for =

>the HPLX?  Any hints as to where (ala websites) that I might find
>such software?  Since I work with Maquilladoras frequently it
>would help tremendously.   It would be great if I could add words
>to it as well.

See:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk

The Series 100 Multilingual Dictionary includes English-Spanish
and Spanish-English. It works well on the 200LX. I don't believe
that you can add words.

You might also want to check the archives for this list for other
ideas.

S.Todd

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:56:25 EST
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> Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to know that you are
> incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy a 200lx?
>

Can you say future availability? It won't be long before HP totally
drops the Hp200lx as I doubt that sales are that great. Like it or
not there just isn't much market for a small dos based machine
anymore. Also, while I know that everyone on this list will holler
about how much there is to run and how great it is ad infinitum, this
list is a tiny little miniscule sub-atomic drop in the bucket as far
as sales numbers are concerned. What is the list membership, around
1000 now? I hardly think that HP is concerned about 1000 users, no
matter how loyal. They probably wouldn't be concerned about 10000, if
there are even that many left.

Pete

PS. All you die hard hp200lx fans better go out and buy a couple and
store them well, they are the last of a breed.



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:20:11 EDT
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Hey guy
You know at simtel (www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ )
they got a whole bunch of  these html/text
conversion reader utilities.  They'll turn yor woids
everywhich way but loose.

Take a gander, you may find something.

yor pal al...........................

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:10:43 -0600
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OK, Dave,  I'll accept that explanation, but check this out:

I have a file (at my website, at the bottom of my 200lx page at
http://www.enol.com/~rsmith/hp200lx.html ) that I'm using to track battery
duration on my palmtop.  (BTW: out of standard alkalines,  it looks as if
brand-name batteries last longest.)  Anyway, if I put a date in the "Date Removed"
column that is beyond Dec. 31, 1999 (either in the format of "2000" or "00"), then
it gives me an error.  Am I doing something wrong?  Is there a better way to
calculate a date such as this?

Regards,
Richard

David Sargeant wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone who helped answer this question for me.  I found a lot of
> > good onfo at the HP website, but I still have soome doubts abouot Lotus --
> > which I use frequently.
>
> >From what I hear, the only problem will be with column widths-- whereas it
> displays the date as xx/xx/xx now, in 2000 it will be xx/xx/xxxx and thus
> you'll need to modify the column widths.
>
> --
> Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:54:37 EDT
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go to this site for a good picture of connector I am hooking up directly to
keyboard, no adapter, I will let you know in a few days how it turns out. Ryo
Honda at this site is a pretty good fellow he has helped me quite a bit with
info alas his page is mostly in Japanese. Roy
http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~honda/HP200LX7.html

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:08:59 -0700
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Exactly what we should all do.

Colin

Peter W. Borders wrote:

> PS. All you die hard hp200lx fans better go out and buy a couple and
> store them well, they are the last of a breed.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:12:27 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Here is the information on the leather pcmcia card sleeves I mentioned:

----------Begin Included Message---------------------------

The storage cases are called SingleStore, Part no. (code) AC103 from
Black Box.  The price is $3.95, plus shipping (I bought four and paid
around $21).  (Fax back No. 13473 covers all the items I mention).

They have a fax-back program:  (724) 746-5500

They also have what they call SecureStore:  A polypropylene case lined
with thermoplastic rubber and a smoked (clamshell) cover.  Each SecureStor=
e
holds a Type III card.  Code AC105 (red), AC104 (black), AC106 (Blue) & =
AC109
(green).  $5.95 + shipping.

And of course the Cord Card Type III retractible phone cord Code AC108
$7.95.

 Black Box
 (724) 746-5500 Fax (800) 321-0746
 www.blackbox.com/
 1000 Park Drive
 Lawrence, PA 15055-1018

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Hope this helps

GaryS

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:30:25 -0400
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I was seriously thinking about ordering one, but a 70% shipping and handling
charge turned me off.  Pet peeve of mine is the high cost of s/h for these
things.  $7.00 s/h for a $11.00 item????

Ray

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Subject:        Re: PCMCIA Case?

APS Technologies sells one that looks like what you are looking for.  From
their Spring 98 catalog:

     PC Card Case
     Transport, store and protect your valuable PC Cards (PCMCIA)
     in this handy case.  It holds up to six Type I or Type II cards
     and has an airtight seal to protect them from dust and dirt.
     (.875" H x 5.8" W x 5.125" D)
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     105272                    PC CARD CASE                  $10.95

You can contact APS Technologies via any of the following:

Sales:     800 374-5688
Corporate: 800 554-3941
24 Hr FAX: 816 483-3077
WWW:       http://www.apstech.com/
email:     sales@apstech.com
           support@apstech.com
           service@apstech.com
Address:   APS Technologies
           6131 Deramus
           P.O. Box 4987
           Kansas City, MO 64120-0087

I'm not affiliated with APS, just on their mailing list.

--
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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:36:21 -0700
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HV was being discussed. I had assumed HV was a textbased html viewer like
lynx.  Does a page viewed with HV show the gif & jpg etc or just ignore
them?



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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:42:40 -0700
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Think of it as an $18.00 item with free shipping.  Then ask yourself
is it worth $18.00 to me?


On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Raymond Wick wrote:

> I was seriously thinking about ordering one, but a 70% shipping and handling
> charge turned me off.  Pet peeve of mine is the high cost of s/h for these
> things.  $7.00 s/h for a $11.00 item????
>
==========================================================>

> APS Technologies sells one that looks like what you are looking for.  From
> their Spring 98 catalog:
>
>      PC Card Case
>      Transport, store and protect your valuable PC Cards (PCMCIA)
>      in this handy case.  It holds up to six Type I or Type II cards
>      and has an airtight seal to protect them from dust and dirt.
>      (.875" H x 5.8" W x 5.125" D)
>      --------------------------------------------------------------
>      105272                    PC CARD CASE                  $10.95
>
> You can contact APS Technologies via any of the following:
>
> Sales:     800 374-5688
> Corporate: 800 554-3941
> 24 Hr FAX: 816 483-3077
> WWW:       http://www.apstech.com/
> email:     sales@apstech.com
>            support@apstech.com
>            service@apstech.com
> Address:   APS Technologies
>            6131 Deramus
>            P.O. Box 4987
>            Kansas City, MO 64120-0087

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:07:19 -0400
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>> Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to
know that you are
>> incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy
a 200lx?

>XT-CE is looking to carry us well into the future, after HP has
phased out
>the 200LX and is focusing full-time on the WinCE machines.  Did
>anybody
>see on HP's web site that the 660LX is out now?  It appears to
>be a 620LX
>with 32MB RAM and a 56K modem built-in.  Nothing too
>exciting.

It would be nice if HP would add a color screen and
internal modem to the 200LX. The 620 is too big though and
has a lousy battery life. I disagree with people that say
there is no market for a dos based palmtop. If the 200LX is
failing now (and from my perspective it's not) its only
because it isn't keeping up with the market. The WinCE
palmtops have backlighting, color screens, builtin modems.
I can't say how many times people that are looking at
palmtops and trying to decide what to buy have made their
decision on whether it has a backlight. Forget the fact
that you can't even store the pim data on a flash with CE
or that its buggy or that it doesn't even have a decent
calculator built-in.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:16:43 -0400
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 William Brown wrote:

>Does anyone know where in the UK (or Europe)
>is the place to go for repairs

You might want to try Tom Rundel at:

 Rundel Datentechnik
 Rappenstr. 20
 73033 Goppingen
 Germany
 Telephone: +49 (07161) 13299
 Fax: +49 (07161) 24473
 http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:04:16 -0600
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FYI, for those of you who like to use the Energizer Lithium AA batteries:  I
stopped by my local (Albuquerque, NM) Home Depot this evening and noticed
that they are clearing them out for $3/pair.  I bought all they had on hand
(their computer said they had 41, but all we could find was 11) and I'll
prabably swing by the other Home Depot here in town tommorrow to clean them
out (their computer says they have 46 on hand).

So, if you like these batteries (and who doesn't) it might be worth your
while to make a run to your nearest Home Depot and see they are clearing
them out as well.  I asked if this was a national, regional, or local deal
and they didn't know.

Good luck.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:41:35 +0000
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Greetings from Down Under,

From the ongoing discussion and questions posed in this List about the
viability of flash cards with Palmtops and other PCs, it would seem
that there are various degrees of compatibility with no universal
standard.  Some need a special driver, others do not, depending upon
the card and/or the host computer or (nowadays) camera.  With
newer-technology cards coming along, this situation will presumably
become more complex.  Since the major advantages of flash cards
include the ease, speed and reliability of transference of moderately
large amounts of data between computers, compatibility is critical.
Yet in this regard the humble and cheap floppy disk leaves the flash
card for dead!

That having been said, I would appreciate any help that can be given
to solve my own peculiar (?) problem.

I have just acquired one of the latest 48Mb flash cards (not the
compact variety), intended partly for use on my 100LX and partly for
exchanging data with my 200LX.  I also have an older 4mb Sandisk card
which is used regularly with Stacker for the same purposes.  The
problem is that the new card is recognised by the 200LX but not the
100LX, even with a recommended driver, yet my laptop recognises both.

The new card was immediately up and running on the 200LX, but at first
would not operate when compressed using Stacker.  With the benefit of
helpful advice I reformatted the new card on the 200LX, which
apparently changes the original 4Kb cluster configuration to 2Kb.
This did the trick and the 200LX immediately recognised nearly 97Mb
free on the card (this raising another question for a later message).

However, the 100LX refused to recognise the new card.  The suggested
driver, Acecard.com, was then installed in the 100LX and, after
rebooting, several lines appeared essentially as follows:-

SRAM driver resident
HP100 driver
Shadowed drive A
Running on a HP 100LX
Driver resident (10224 bytes)

Eventually the final part was:-
Invalid media type reading drive A
Abort? Etc.

Obviously the driver is not allowing the 100LX to read the new card;
but where does the problem lie?  I have acquired and installed the
driver twice, so it has presumably not been corrupted, unless it is
not the correct driver for this particular task.  The 100LX seems to
behave normally in other respects and reads the Sandisk card.  Is it
possible that the Acecard driver is designed for a card formatted
with 4Kb clusters?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:09:09 +0010
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From:         Alain Psyche <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Spanish Palmtop's mailing list
Comments: To: Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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Bonjour,(ola)
je ne parle pas de regle mais de courtoisie amigo.
I like to read the post peole send and sorry my spanish is to limited
(do not say my english is limited too ;-)
Can you imagine every one use his natural language.

OK, I know it's good to able to use our first language some time.
best regards
Alain

> Hi Al...
> It=B4s not a obligation use just english in this list.
> The HPLX is so much palmtop to use in english only.
> :-)
> Pablo KIM

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:18:42 -0700
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Shore Systems www.shoresystems.net now distributes the SanDisk Image Mate CF
Card reader. The reader is an external device about the size of a computer
mouse and is connected to a PC via a parallel port. It has a pass-through
connection, and the data transfer rate is 500KB/second.
>
The Image Mate can only read CFs, not PC Cards. This can be gotten around by
using a PC Card adapter for a CF and removing the CF from the adapter when
using it in an Image Mate.
>
Cost is $95, including worldwide shipping. VISA/MC accepted. Replies via
email, please.

-----Original Message-----
From:   al chin Ýmailto:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
Sent:   17 June, 1998 14:31
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Removable flash drive

Qman

Yo!

External Flash Memory Drives ($99.98 PC Zone).
sits on your desktop and acts like a removable
drive, treating the compactflash card like a
diskette.

If so I'd like to here from you.
Here I am, what about it?

Regards,

Yor pal al .....................

_____________________________________________________________________
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Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:40:43 -0700
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:
>
> OK, Dave,  I'll accept that explanation, but check this out:
> I have a file (at my website, at the bottom of my 200lx page at
> http://www.enol.com/~rsmith/hp200lx.html ) that I'm using to track battery
> duration on my palmtop.  (BTW: out of standard alkalines,  it looks as if
> brand-name batteries last longest.)  Anyway, if I put a date in the "Date Removed"
> column that is beyond Dec. 31, 1999 (either in the format of "2000" or "00"), then
> it gives me an error.  Am I doing something wrong?  Is there a better way to
> calculate a date such as this?

Yes.  Being a non-Lotus user, it took me a few minutes to figure it out,
but do @DATE(100,x,x) for dates in 2000, @DATE(101,x,x) for dates in 2001,
etc.  Then you need to adjust the column width
(Worksheet...Column...Set-Width) to be able to display the four-digit dats.

Hmm... Lotus is actually pretty handy, now that I look at it.  Maybe I
ought to look into it more.

(BTW: I'm sending this message both to you and to the list, so if you get
it twice, we'll know that that's the cause of the duplicate messages you
sometimes receive-- people not changing the TO: field.  If not, well, it's
something else. <g>  )
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:30:38 -0400
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Hey there, all you palmtoppers!
        Some news that may shine a bit of potential...  IOMega (famous makers of
the ZIP drive) is making a drive that they call 'Clik!' which is for
'handheld computing and the new age of programmable portable phones as well
as digital cameras'  I wasn't able to find any more information about them
other than the sizes (both physical and virtual) each disk holds 40MB, and
the drive sounds to be slightly smaller than our beloved HP dos palmtop.
It apparently interfaces via a PCMCIA card, and even has available an
external battery.  Beyond this, I know nothing of the product, but it
sounds like we may be in store for a new toy, and more storage-on-the-go.
        Take it easy, folks...  I'll try to find more info.. if anyone out there
HAS any info, PLEASE SHARE!
        James

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:02:47 -0700
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There was a little bit of discussion on this a while back, and Iomega was
promoting them heavily at Comdex in Fall 1997, here in Las Vegas.  (They
gave away little metal disks that you could press and they'd make a
clicking noise.)

Unfortunaetly, it appears that Iomega is not actually making them yet, with
all the trouble the company has been having.  The information on their web
site used to state that they would focus on having Clik drives integrated
into newly-built products first, and the drives later.  But I don't see
that anymore...

In any case, if the drivers work with the 200LX, it should prove to be an
interesting product...


James Scheffler wrote:
>
>         Some news that may shine a bit of potential...  IOMega (famous makers of
> the ZIP drive) is making a drive that they call 'Clik!' which is for
> 'handheld computing and the new age of programmable portable phones as well
> as digital cameras'  I wasn't able to find any more information about them
> other than the sizes (both physical and virtual) each disk holds 40MB, and
> the drive sounds to be slightly smaller than our beloved HP dos palmtop.
> It apparently interfaces via a PCMCIA card, and even has available an
> external battery.  Beyond this, I know nothing of the product, but it
> sounds like we may be in store for a new toy, and more storage-on-the-go.
>         Take it easy, folks...  I'll try to find more info.. if anyone out there
> HAS any info, PLEASE SHARE!

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Date:         Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:09:27 -0700
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This is a common problem that arises for a few possible reasons.
>
First, the CF/PC Cards should be recognized as an additional IDE drive. The
driver used is the generic IDE driver. In the example cited of a SanDisk,
Simple and Kodak card, it is strange that the Kodak card wouldn't be
recognized, as it is made by SanDisk (as is HP and Psion) for Kodak.
>
Second, the card slots on many newer PCs are CardBus (32-bit) enabled. Many
PC/CF card adapters are only 16-bit. If your system is Card Bus, you need a
CB adapter.
>
Third, it is possible the CF is defective. Simple/Viking CFs are technically
superior to SanDisk in many ways, but suffer from a problem related to the
constant improvement Lexar makes to the controller. A good suggestion would
be to contact either Simple or Viking's Tech Support and ensure that the CF
has the latest ROM flash. Their numbers are:
>
Viking  - 800.338.2361
Simple - 800.653.9660 Option 2
>
Both companies offer Express Exchange in North America if the unit is
defective and cover the product for 5 years.
>
Finally, many notebooks running 95 require a PCMCIA controller to be setup
in Win95 under the Properties tab of My Computer.
>
Hope this helps. At least you don't have to try to make this work under
WinNT :(


-----Original Message-----
From:   Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨
Sent:   17 June, 1998 11:10
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Flash card question

Hey Mitch & All:

02h51m19s ago ...
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> I have 3 flash cards: a 20MB Sandisk, a 15MB SimpleTech CF w/adapter
> and a 4MB Kodak CF. All three will work in my 200LX and in my desktop
> with its SCM Swapbox. Only the 20MB Sandisk will work in any of the 3
> Win95 laptops I have tried: IBM ThinkPad, Dell Latitude, Compaq. The
> CF cards are not recognized (actually, they are totally ignored) by
> the laptops. Has anyone else noticed this kind of behavior?

I just tried my 15MB IBM ThinkPad File (SunDisk PCMCIA FLASH), my 2MB
SanDisk CF, and my 8MB PNY VersaCard in my OmniBook 4000C running
Win3.11, all worked fine.

Cheers,

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As far as I know
SI (Standard International) small "k" means 1000 times ala "km".  And "K" is
usually used for 1024 times ala 1 K bytes = 1024 bytes.  But I don't know if
it's any kind of official defintion.   SI "M" capital, is used to mean Mega or
1000 times.  Small "m" is milli.    "G" is giga or 1,000,000, but "g" is not
any kind of scalling prefix at all.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:55:10 -0500
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I have just thrown together a wrapper application to help configuration
of PPP and to provide a friendlier interface for connecting.  It lets
you toggle on/off sound, dialing, prefix, mail, news, shell, and then
you can press the connect button and it will perform all of the tasks
that were toggled on.

If you are connecting via PAP/CHAP the only PPP/CHAT configuration
required is adding user, password, and phone number to the configuration
file, no reading the chat.man, pppd.man, samples.txt, etc trying to
piece everything together.

It uses the following programs:  epppd.exe, chat.exe, pnrti.exe,
lxpop.exe lxnntp.exe

I am currently looking for a couple of people to test it,  Preferably
someone who is already using LXTCP, since configuring that is another
(much less complicated) ordeal, and one at a time is enough.

It started out as an LXBatch command in my connect batch file to prompt
for dialing prefix, as I always seem to be bouncing back and forth
between the office and home. Then I decided to toggle on/off the sounds
since it sometimes disturbs others, but I typically find it
entertaining.  That of course required dynamically creating the chat
script, which then led me to dynamically creating the PPP configuration,
by this time I figured I better clean it up for everyone else :-)

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:57:42 +1200
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> From: Thomas C. Lange <tclange@USWEST.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Text files in Memo
> Date: Thursday, 18 June 1998 01:34
>
> I recently went to an interview where the person interviewing me had a
> copy of my resume that I had emailed to them earlier (from my HP200 of
> course). I noticed that it didn't look very good because there were
> returns in the middle of lines. It appeared that whatever this person
> had used to print my resume used fewer characters per row than I had set
> up in Memo. I had set my left margin at 1 and my right at 81.

If I am typing into Memo for an email, I always press enter at about column
60-70
(I do it in MS Mail too) because of the various mailing systems, the
different
platforms the data gets output to, it is best (imho) to make hard returns
before
the destination program puts it's in.

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:17:45 +1200
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>
> Yes.  Being a non-Lotus user, it took me a few minutes to figure it out,
> but do @DATE(100,x,x) for dates in 2000, @DATE(101,x,x) for dates in
2001,
> etc.  Then you need to adjust the column width
> (Worksheet...Column...Set-Width) to be able to display the four-digit
dats.
>
> Hmm... Lotus is actually pretty handy, now that I look at it.  Maybe I
> ought to look into it more.
>

I use 123 all the time and even for journaling. I have a macro that runs
123, loads
a file with a date function that picks the day & pastes it into an event in
appt.

It's easy to get the LX to paste the date in --/--/-- format, but I like to
be able to
know what day of the week it was when revewing, so 123 chooses from
Saturday
thru Friday with this function string. (entered with no spaces)

@CHOOSE(@MOD(@DATEVALUE(@NOW),7),"SATURDAY","SUNDAY",
MONDAY","TUESDAY","WEDNESDAY","THURSDAY","FRIDAY")

This is in the A1 cell. In B1, formatted to show the date like my LX is
setup
and widened from the std column width to 12 to show all the date when into
the Y2K (I tried this and it works into the next century!)

B1 has simply, @NOW to give the date. The macro copies the contents of
cells
A1&B1 & pastes them into my journal.

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:56:06 -0500
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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01h13m33s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:31:16 +1200 (NZST), David Lawrence wrote:

> If I am typing into Memo for an email, I always press enter at about =
column
> 60-70

With Memo, you can re-configure your right margin at any time using the
format->margin command. This will allow you to take advantage of the
auto carriage return so you won't have to hit return. Then to make
your margin settings permanent for travel through the net, just print
to a file and send that.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:00:40 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: clock TSR?
In-Reply-To:  <v03007802b1ae134a331d@Ý147.140.128.39¨> from "Samuel Lightcap"
              at Jun 17, 98 07:46:37 pm
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> I have used for years a tsr called dtime that displays a little 8 character
> digital clock in the upper right corner of my screen. Problem is that it
> only works in text mode. Graphics mode either kills it or renders it into a
> little sting of pixels.

Can you provide the name and source of this little utility?  Sounds like
it would be useful, even given the above mentioned problem.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:08:46 -0400
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Has anyone got a version of Laplink on NT to work with the Laplink on the LX?

Intersvr/Interlnk doesn't work in NT, according to MS techies.

Dang if this Jeteye isn't cool and stupid all at the same time.  It WON'T
go lower than 115200, obsoleting it with Transfile200...

<grumble>

Thanks

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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: html reader
In-Reply-To:  <199806172233.PAA08637@ftel.net> from "A. Meshar" at Jun 17,
              98 03:33:29 pm
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Avi:

> > HV is not text based.
>
> So? I don't understand the issue with text based vs. graphical
> based. The HTML documents that arrive are ALL text (ASCII) and
> they just get interpreted and "painted" on the screen by HV in
> a graphical form. I am kinda puzzled about this...

Indeed, you are correct in your observation.  I think the issue/concern
was whether it ran the palmtop display in text or graphics mode.
I don't know exactly why the original poster was concerned, but one
application does come to mind - usabilty for the blind.  I'm aware
(but have never investigated this) that there are various systems that
convert the text on your screen to a braille output device.  I'm pretty
sure that the computer has to run in text mode for these things to work.
Perhaps there are other reasons why one would want text mode over graphics
mode, but this was the first to come to mind.

Maybe the orignal poster can comment...

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:20:58 -0400
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   Whoo- boy de flames are a'flyin'....... We have a similar debate rag=
ing
   here in New York City. Some people resent the fact that many public
   signs are provided in Spanish for the minority. I hear that, in Miam=
i,
   people resent the English signs provided for the minority :-> .
   Just to keep it in topic... Are there Spanish versions of the LX? I'=
ve
   heard of German versions.

Then, of course, there's Quebec -- where all public signs must be Frenc=
h by
force of law. (Alternate language translations are allowed, so long as =
the
characters are no larger than half the size of the French characters, a=
nd appear
below them.) Understandably, this is the subject of lively debate in se=
veral
languages...

(dragging himself back on topic)
When I purchased my 100LX in Canada, it was the "International English"=
 model. I
saw no difference from the U.S. English model, except that the keyboard=
 was
labeled with all the accented characters available in combination with =
the ÝFn¨
key.

BTW: Je suis n=E9 au Qu=E9bec, ainsi je puis parler de lui tout que je =
veux.
=

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Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:34:04 -0400 (EDT)

10h57m43s ago ...
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> HV was being discussed. I had assumed HV was a textbased html viewer =
like
> lynx.  Does a page viewed with HV show the gif & jpg etc or just ignore
> them?

Either way.  8-)

HV is a graphic browser, with the ability to choose (from a .cfg file
or from the menu) whether or not to show inline images.  On its own it
can display gif, but not jpg.  The latest version works with LXPIC to
display either.

-PR
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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What's wrong with a Spanish, or for that matter, a French, German or othe=
r
forums? There are numerous Psion forums in many languages, which may acco=
unt
for why over 100,000 are sold EACH QUARTER.
>
If a Spanish language forum broadens WinCE and 200LX use, so much the
better.

-----Original Message-----
From:   HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of Br=
uce
Martin
Sent:   18 June, 1998 06:21
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Spanish mailing list

   Whoo- boy de flames are a'flyin'....... We have a similar debate ragin=
g
   here in New York City. Some people resent the fact that many public
   signs are provided in Spanish for the minority. I hear that, in Miami,
   people resent the English signs provided for the minority :-> .
   Just to keep it in topic... Are there Spanish versions of the LX? I've
   heard of German versions.

Then, of course, there's Quebec -- where all public signs must be French =
by
force of law. (Alternate language translations are allowed, so long as th=
e
characters are no larger than half the size of the French characters, and
appear
below them.) Understandably, this is the subject of lively debate in seve=
ral
languages...

(dragging himself back on topic)
When I purchased my 100LX in Canada, it was the "International English"
model. I
saw no difference from the U.S. English model, except that the keyboard w=
as
labeled with all the accented characters available in combination with th=
e
ÝFn¨
key.

BTW: Je suis n=E9 au Qu=E9bec, ainsi je puis parler de lui tout que je ve=
ux.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:05:48 -0700
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: JETEYE & laplink
Comments: To: hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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NT doesn't support IR at this time. NT5.0 will support it and Plug'n'Pray.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent:   18 June, 1998 06:09
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        JETEYE & laplink

Has anyone got a version of Laplink on NT to work with the Laplink on the
LX?

Intersvr/Interlnk doesn't work in NT, according to MS techies.

Dang if this Jeteye isn't cool and stupid all at the same time.  It WON'T
go lower than 115200, obsoleting it with Transfile200...

<grumble>

Thanks

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:14:32 -0500
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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If the PC you want to transfer files to runs Windows (3.1, 95, or NT), I
remember reading here that the free Transfile program (link from
www.palmtop.net) will work with the 95LX.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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>Has anyone got a better solution:  Interlnk or Laplink working on NT 4.0?
>(Problem w/ interlnk, if it will work, is that I have to eat up 200LX
>system ram loading device=interlnk.exe at bootup.)

How about setting up separate startup files (CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT): one for file transfers, one for normal use.  There is a
program available to do this on SUPER (I forget the name offhand; it's one
of the new files there).  This way you don't load up the driver unless you
need it.

Cheers.
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:26:19 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Hey cheeko
What's wrong with a Spanish, or for that matter,
a French, German or other forums?  NUTHIN.
There are numerous Psion forums in many languages,
which may account for why over 100,000 are sold EACH
QUARTER.  **That ain't the reason psion sells.
But if that's your argument, do start a board in spanish.

If a Spanish language forum broadens WinCE and
200LX use, so much the better.
Purpose of language is communication.  If you can
speak english do so, so everyone can understand.
The purpose of this boar is to share lx info which
can't be done if we have languages that most (51%)
people can't unnderstand.

Better still if you want to have a forum in spanish,
start your own list in spanish since yor using spanish
will be read by only spanish speakers.
As for your argument, use it with the FAA.

Yor pal al .....................

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Patrick:

> HV was being discussed. I had assumed HV was a textbased html viewer =
like
> lynx.  Does a page viewed with HV show the gif & jpg etc or just ignore
> them?

It shows them. The default mode is to turn off GIFs, and
JPEGs, but you can turn it on and they'll show. The new
version has even a improved in that it now works with LXPIC to
do the "painting".
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:54:20 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi there!

> What's wrong with a Spanish, or for that matter, a French, German or =
other
> forums? There are numerous Psion forums in many languages, which may =
account
> for why over 100,000 are sold EACH QUARTER.
> >
> If a Spanish language forum broadens WinCE and 200LX use, so much the
> better.
>

It's nothing wrong with a Spanish 200LX forum and any other language. But
then things had been easier if another e-mail list was created for each
language (don't ask me who should do it and so on). I love this list and
it's very interesting to see how people all over the world is using their
palmtop and new ideas, problems etc. But if we start to use different
languages on this list, it will waste a lost of bandwidth. If I can't =
read
a significant amount of messages on this list- why should I then subscribe
to it! Since all on this list write and read English- let's use it.

If we start to allow different languages on this list then we will soon
see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish, French, German and so on
and it will be very uninteresting since we all will start to loose
interesting information. This list is here so we can share information-
right?

However, it's nothing wrong with a message in another language asking for
people speaking the same language and would like to discuss specific
language related stuff. Then you can all have a private forum where you
simply create a address list with the groups e-mail addresses.

Jorgen

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Peniel:

> 10h57m43s ago ...
> On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Patrick West wrote:
>
> > HV was being discussed. I had assumed HV was a textbased html viewer
> like
> > lynx.  Does a page viewed with HV show the gif & jpg etc or just =
ignore
> > them?
>
> Either way.  8-)
>
> HV is a graphic browser, with the ability to choose (from a .cfg file
> or from the menu) whether or not to show inline images.  On its own it
> can display gif, but not jpg.  The latest version works with LXPIC to
> display either.

This is rare, I actually beat you to an answer on our own
products I think, or did I? :-)))) Thanks for your help!

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:01:42 -0300
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              Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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And it does protect your cards from dust and static.

All that you have  to pay is u$s 6 in Argentina (maybe $3 in USA) for a
Sony 112m computer grade 8mm tape.
There are 60m tape if you want to save even more your dollars.
:-)

I=B4m using 2 box:
-one for my Panasonc cdrom=B4s PCMCIA SCSI card with cable (both) that fi=
t
perfectly ( a bit hard)  in the box.=20
-another for my PCMCIA modem with cable 100% perfectly fit.



Also you get a free 8mm cassette tape that you can use for "camcording"
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:-)
Or continue using it for your Exabyte tape backup like me.

Pablo KIM

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:38:18 -0400
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At 07:05 AM 6/18/98 -0700, Bernard Torbik wrote:
 > NT doesn't support IR at this time. NT5.0 will support it and Plug'n'Pray.

Hmmm.  I did get the Jeteye to work with a regular Term program and
X/Zmodem. As well as W32filer...  So the Jeteye, which acts as a serial
cable via IR, works in NT as far as that goes.

What I wish is that I could use Laplink or Transfile or Interlnk in NT.

That is my hang-up.  Perhaps there is a way to control the serial port rate
so that the Jeteye will be forced to work at 57600 for transfile?  The
ports setting in control panel has no effect...

thanks

 > -----Original Message-----
 > Has anyone got a version of Laplink on NT to work with the Laplink on the
 > LX?
 > Intersvr/Interlnk doesn't work in NT, according to MS techies.
 > Dang if this Jeteye isn't cool and stupid all at the same time.  It WON'T
 > go lower than 115200, obsoleting it with Transfile200...

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Amen to the comments below.  It's amazing, but some people don't (think
they) need a decent calculator!  Go figure!
Jim J.




John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU> on 06/17/98 10:07:19 PM

Please respond to David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  Re: XTCE




>> Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to
know that you are
>> incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy
a 200lx?

>XT-CE is looking to carry us well into the future, after HP has
phased out
>the 200LX and is focusing full-time on the WinCE machines.  Did
>anybody
>see on HP's web site that the 660LX is out now?  It appears to
>be a 620LX
>with 32MB RAM and a 56K modem built-in.  Nothing too
>exciting.

It would be nice if HP would add a color screen and
internal modem to the 200LX. The 620 is too big though and
has a lousy battery life. I disagree with people that say
there is no market for a dos based palmtop. If the 200LX is
failing now (and from my perspective it's not) its only
because it isn't keeping up with the market. The WinCE
palmtops have backlighting, color screens, builtin modems.
I can't say how many times people that are looking at
palmtops and trying to decide what to buy have made their
decision on whether it has a backlight. Forget the fact
that you can't even store the pim data on a flash with CE
or that its buggy or that it doesn't even have a decent
calculator built-in.

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Chris:

> Indeed, you are correct in your observation.  I think the issue/concern
> was whether it ran the palmtop display in text or graphics mode.
> I don't know exactly why the original poster was concerned, but one
> application does come to mind - usabilty for the blind.

Yes! That is completely true.

> I'm aware
> (but have never investigated this) that there are various systems that
> convert the text on your screen to a braille output device.  I'm pretty
> sure that the computer has to run in text mode for these things to =
work.
> Perhaps there are other reasons why one would want text mode over =
graphics
> mode, but this was the first to come to mind.

In this case it'll have to actually strip the tags too, or
not, depending how the person wants to "see" the Web page,
contents only, or also formatting.

Good point, Chris.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:44:58 -0400
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complete with disks and manuals 20 shipped in us.
thanks
mike

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 R. Christopher Lott
<rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

>>Collins (rhcc) also offers an English dictionary and thesaurus.
>>Version 1 runs on the 200LX.

>I can't find any mention of Version 1 on their web site - can one
>still obtain it?

Yes. Sorry, I've got my copy; I forgot how buried the references
to the earlier version are.

In any event, here's an excerpt from the FAQs on the dictionary:

-----
Q7 - Can CEDT be used as a MS-DOS application?

No. CEDT v2.0a is a Windows only product, however, the
previous version 1.5 is still available for use with MS-DOS.
----

This is from a CompuServe posting by Ron Hughes of
RHCC on June 11/98 (...=3Dtext cut)

----
=2E..In fact, RHCC certainly supplies Collins dictionaries, two
of which are still available with software for MS-DOS.
=2E..
Please note that these products were not designed
specifically for handhelds, however they do seem to be =

popular amongst ...HP 200 LX owners.

While I am grateful to those HP 200LX owners ...
RHCC cannot provide advice on the use of these products
on handhelds, as we do not have staff who are
experienced... Basic technical information (eg system
requirements) is available by e-mailing
sales@rhcc.co.uk or by visiting our website
www.rhcc.co.uk.
----

You can reach the printable order form, which does
mention the earlier version of the dictionary, at:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk/orderfrm.htm

S.Todd

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I vote for a seperate list.
But I wouldn't mind frequent msgs from other lists
that contained "best of" msgs for really good ideas
that come up on those lists.

Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> > What's wrong with a Spanish, or for that matter, a French, German or other
> > forums? There are numerous Psion forums in many languages, which may account
> > for why over 100,000 are sold EACH QUARTER.
> > >
> > If a Spanish language forum broadens WinCE and 200LX use, so much the
> > better.
> >
>
> It's nothing wrong with a Spanish 200LX forum and any other language. But
> then things had been easier if another e-mail list was created for each
> language (don't ask me who should do it and so on). I love this list and
> it's very interesting to see how people all over the world is using their
> palmtop and new ideas, problems etc. But if we start to use different
> languages on this list, it will waste a lost of bandwidth. If I can't read
> a significant amount of messages on this list- why should I then subscribe
> to it! Since all on this list write and read English- let's use it.
>
> If we start to allow different languages on this list then we will soon
> see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish, French, German and so on
> and it will be very uninteresting since we all will start to loose
> interesting information. This list is here so we can share information-
> right?
>
> However, it's nothing wrong with a message in another language asking for
> people speaking the same language and would like to discuss specific
> language related stuff. Then you can all have a private forum where you
> simply create a address list with the groups e-mail addresses.
>
> Jorgen
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A more informed discussion of the capabilities of the HP360 and =
HP620/660 would better serve this list.
>
Each of HP's WinCE 2.0 units include Fiscal Pro in ROM, which is every =
bit as capable as the HP Calc built into the 200LX. True, it cannot =
backsolve, but the info can be cut and pasted into Excel to attain much =
the same result.
>
Contact info is stored in the Object Store of system's RAM (by MS =
design), but HP (and Compaq) have included utilities in Control Panel =
that enable full database backups to be performed to a flash card. It is =
also much simpler to synchronize Pocket Outlook, Calendar, etc. with MS =
Outlook or other PIMs such as Goldmine, ACT, etc. than the 200's =
outmoded, 16-bit applications.
>
As for "buggy" applications, I've used CE2.0 for 10 months and have =
encountered few, if any, problems with it. HP did have a small problem =
with its Month-At-A-Glance overlay for Calendar, but this has been =
addressed in a Service Pack update.
>
As for size, yes, the 620/660 are a bit larger than the 200, but so =
what? The keyboard is a lot better, the screen is light years ahead and =
I have two PC/CF card slots.
>
HP has done an outstanding job of producing a true desktop companion in =
the 620/660 and its sales reflect this. The 200 was a great machine in =
its time, but time, HP and the market have moved on.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jim Johnson ÝSMTP:jjohnson@TMCC.COM¨
Sent:   Thursday, June 18, 1998 6:15 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: XTCE

Amen to the comments below.  It's amazing, but some people don't (think
they) need a decent calculator!  Go figure!
Jim J.




John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU> on 06/17/98 10:07:19 PM

Please respond to David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>

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>> Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to
know that you are
>> incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy
a 200lx?

>XT-CE is looking to carry us well into the future, after HP has
phased out
>the 200LX and is focusing full-time on the WinCE machines.  Did
>anybody
>see on HP's web site that the 660LX is out now?  It appears to
>be a 620LX
>with 32MB RAM and a 56K modem built-in.  Nothing too
>exciting.

It would be nice if HP would add a color screen and
internal modem to the 200LX. The 620 is too big though and
has a lousy battery life. I disagree with people that say
there is no market for a dos based palmtop. If the 200LX is
failing now (and from my perspective it's not) its only
because it isn't keeping up with the market. The WinCE
palmtops have backlighting, color screens, builtin modems.
I can't say how many times people that are looking at
palmtops and trying to decide what to buy have made their
decision on whether it has a backlight. Forget the fact
that you can't even store the pim data on a flash with CE
or that its buggy or that it doesn't even have a decent
calculator built-in.

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM> wrote:

>I have both NT and Win95 machines I need to exchange data with.
>...I have to use the clunky Filer for all my file transfers.
>...
>What else is there?

You might want to try zip.com, shareware from Eric Meyer. It's
DOS based but runs fine in a DOS window under Win95. I'm
currently experimenting (with cable, not IR), but it seems fast,
reliable, and stable.

I got my copy on CompuServe, but you should be able to find
it on the major shareware services

For example, go to zdnet:

http://www.hotfiles.com

and do a search for "zip fast" (with the quotes) and it's the
first one in the list (at least it was on 06/18/98).

S.Todd

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44m19s ago ...
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:19:36 -0700 (CST), Bernard Torbik wrote:

> As for size, yes, the 620/660 are a bit larger than the 200, but so
> what?

For me, that is exactly what. The 200LX is right on the edge of being
too big to be practical. It is not fortunately, but only a little more
weight or increased length/width/depth and it would not fit my needs as
I would not take it everywhere with me. The 620LX is a monster by
palmtop standards; too big and heavy to be really useful for me.

As for desktop companionship, that is not what the 200LX is about. It
is for many, myself included, a desktop/laptop replacement, not just a
temporary storehouse for data that you dump to a Pentium for doing real
work.

And let's not even go into the battery life differences between the two
platforms...

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Comments: To: "S.Todd" <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>

FWIW I love Eric's program but i could never get it to work with my
JetEye serial, so I returned it and got a SmartDock instead (and an SCM
swapbox for flashdisk backups).

- Danny

Text of message from 70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM, 18 Jun 1998, 12:07 PM
> On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM> wrote:
>
> >I have both NT and Win95 machines I need to exchange data with.
> >...I have to use the clunky Filer for all my file transfers.
> >...
> >What else is there?
>
> You might want to try zip.com, shareware from Eric Meyer. It's
> DOS based but runs fine in a DOS window under Win95. I'm
> currently experimenting (with cable, not IR), but it seems fast,
> reliable, and stable.
>
> I got my copy on CompuServe, but you should be able to find
> it on the major shareware services
>
> For example, go to zdnet:
>
> http://www.hotfiles.com
>
> and do a search for "zip fast" (with the quotes) and it's the
> first one in the list (at least it was on 06/18/98).
>
> S.Todd
>
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>FWIW I love Eric's program but i could never get it to work with my
>JetEye serial, so I returned it and got a SmartDock instead (and an SCM
>swapbox for flashdisk backups).

>>You might want to try zip.com, shareware from Eric Meyer. ...I'm
>>currently experimenting (with cable, not IR)

Oops. Thanks for the correction.

S.Todd

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A cry for help from the InfoSelect'ers (posted at c.s.p.)

- Longden

On 18 Jun 1998, DickCarr01 wrote:
DickCarr01 <dickcarr01@aol.com>

> Can anyone help in the settings to run this program from its icon. I keep
> getting "memory allocation error, Cannot start command.com" when trying to run
> the program from the a:drive.  Thanks.......

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:54:52 -0400
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At 11:07 PM 6/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>It would be nice if HP would add a color screen and
>internal modem to the 200LX. The 620 is too big though and
>has a lousy battery life. I disagree with people that say
>there is no market for a dos based palmtop. If the 200LX is
>failing now (and from my perspective it's not) its only
>because it isn't keeping up with the market. The WinCE
>palmtops have backlighting, color screens, builtin modems.

Okay, here we go.  I want y'all to know at the outset that I'm a dedicated,
loyal 200LX cult member, but I'm also a realist.  If a color screen and an
internal modem were added to the 200LX (which won't happen - sorry), the
battery life would be just as poor as those WinCE devices.   A shame that
HP dropped the idea of a DOS palmtop, but hey, WinCE is pretty and easily
marketed and DOS 5 is neither.  For the brainless megastore-mindset
ingrained into today's non-Real computer users, DOS=Hell.  It's too bad,
but that's how it works.

>I can't say how many times people that are looking at
>palmtops and trying to decide what to buy have made their
>decision on whether it has a backlight. Forget the fact
>that you can't even store the pim data on a flash with CE
>or that its buggy or that it doesn't even have a decent
>calculator built-in.

Well, think of it this way: you can buy an expensive car with headlights,
or an expensive car without headlights.  The one with headlights, via some
added stuff, can run just as well (and do the same things) as the one
without headlights.  The one with headlights is also the one you can drive
at night.  The fact of the matter is, WinCE devices, via XTCE, are closing
in fast on the shredded remains of the 200LX market.  We can love our
200LXes, and at the moment we can buy new ones when the old ones break, but
the market is for yuppies with money.  The palmtop has ceased to become a
productivity tool, and has become, through Microsoft (and, largely, HP
corporate) a product for people that consider having an expensive and
useless device a status symbol.  The market has shifted from Volkswagen to
Lamborghini.

One closing thought, if it raises your hopes any:  VOLKSWAGEN JUST BOUGHT
LAMBORGHINI!  AND ROLLS-ROYCE!  WOOHOO!

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:55:02 -0700
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Jorgen,

<< If we start to allow different languages on this list then
we will soon see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish,
French, German and so on >>

Easy for you to say ... You know all these languages! :) ---
Just kiddin'.

I reluctantly agree with you about the bandwidth. If one
common language is used then we can all read ALL the messages,
but if we use different languages, then indeed the messages in
some languages are not readable by me, narrowing my bandwidth,
and increasing my cost to download.

On the other hand, It is easier for some people to communicate
in their native language than English.

On the other hand (three hands? :) ...) if these people would
try English a little bit in this list, their skill in the
language may improve! :)

Oh well, I dunno...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:54:57 -0700
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> >Has anyone got a better solution:  Interlnk or Laplink working on NT =
4.0?
> >(Problem w/ interlnk, if it will work, is that I have to eat up 200LX
> >system ram loading device=3Dinterlnk.exe at bootup.)

Well, I run it the other way around! I put Interlnk in the DOS
session on the desktop, and INTERSVR runs on the palmtop when
I need it, i.e. it does not take up unnecessary RAM.

On the desktop: I do it for W95 regularly, i.e. load up the
Interlnk, just change the CONFIG.SYS, yes there is one! :)

In NT, you can tailor the DOS window you start up with
whatever drivers you want to load in there. I don't recall
exactly how, it is about 1.5 years since I did it last.

Then you run on the palmtop intersvr, which makes the plamtop
just another server or "disk" to the desktop. You can control
all the stuff from the desktop keyboard.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:07:49 -0500
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All,

Im experimenting with the demo of WWW/LX on my 100lx with a 2400 baud / 4mb
flash combo card.  I have run WWWSETUP to configure it for my ISP using the
PPP standard script.  The system connects and establishes the PPP
connection fine, but in the browser returns that the DNS couldnt find the
site or something similar. Also, if I try to runt WWW "!telnet site.com" it
connects and gets to the userid / password prompts but locks up at that
point.

Has anyone experienced similar situations?

Any help would be appreciated, WWWLX looks alot better than NETTAMER, and
theres only room for one of them on my system. <G>

Dan
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:14:00 -0700
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Bernard:

> Outlook or other PIMs such as Goldmine, ACT, etc. than the 200's
> outmoded, 16-bit applications.

I might point out to you that the width of the word in the
operating system makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. This is a
buzzword which is repeated over and over with little or no
thought. Excellent systems have been written in 8-bit
wordsize. You never know the difference, it is only the
compiler writers who know the difference. If they are smart,
it makes no difference. If they are not as smart in producing
a good compiler, then they buzz everyone with the width of the
word. Sorry, Bernard, this is not even holding enough bits to
make a whit of difference. Let's get informed here, eh? :)

> As for size, yes, the 620/660 are a bit larger than the 200, but so
> what? The keyboard is a lot better, the screen is light years ahead and
> I have two PC/CF card slots.

So what? That is a major point with people who like to close
the machine and put it into their pocket. I need another arm
for the WinCE machines. I am willing to live with a screen
that is not great but DEFINITELY usable (no 200LX user ever
sued HP for blindness!) And I am willing to live with a usable
keyboard (with a major advantage in numeric keyboard instead
of a wrenching overlay) - Where I can take my palmtop, you can
only come along and watch over my shoulder in despair and
jealousy, because you can't drag that beast you love so much.

> HP has done an outstanding job of producing a true desktop companion in
> the 620/660 and its sales reflect this. The 200 was a great machine in
> its time, but time, HP and the market have moved on.

Now we are talking: Finally you came to grips with the WinCE
machines! They are companions to desktops, and probably very
very good ones. Well, it has been said at least 5 million time
give or take about 4.9 million, the palmtop (I mean the
Palmtop, not the pregnant companion! :) ) the 200LX is my MAIN
machine. I run all my businesses on it. I am on the road this
summer away from my office and have found it to be the best
item in my luggage except toothbrush and clean underwear. I
guarantee you that you could not continue with Shore as I
continue with D&A (and the other stuff I do) while dragging
the 620/660LX along.

So let's agree here: For a desktop companion, I won't argue -
the WinCEs are great! But if you carry your desktop with you,
NOTHING beats the 200LX! You are in the first camp, I am in
the second.

I appreciate the information you provided, but it lacked the
main ingredient: the realisation that we are discussing two
totally, incompatible, and inexchangeable styles of work -
"tethered" and "loose".

Don't get me wrong - I have tested many WinCE machines. I
have at home (in storage really) 6 of these babies (the 660
is the latest). I am not critical of them sinece they fit a
work style I do not have. But for me, and hundreds of
thousands of others who are "road warriors" the 200LX is
unbeatable, while the Wince does not answer the needs. Not at
all a bad machine, just not what we need.

Anyway, that is the only distinction that I missed in your
otherwise pretty informative exposee! Thanks for the post!

Oh and I'll write privately soon for some merchandise! :) Be
well, my friend!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:35:16 EST
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Subject:      Re: XTCE

> ... stuff deleted
>
> Don't get me wrong - I have tested many WinCE machines. I
> have at home (in storage really) 6 of these babies (the 660
> is the latest). I am not critical of them sinece they fit a
> work style I do not have. But for me, and hundreds of
> thousands of others who are "road warriors" the 200LX is
> unbeatable, while the Wince does not answer the needs. Not at
> all a bad machine, just not what we need.
>
> Anyway, that is the only distinction that I missed in your
> otherwise pretty informative exposee! Thanks for the post!
>
> Oh and I'll write privately soon for some merchandise! :) Be
> well, my friend!
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>

Ok you are entitled you your opinion (aren't I generous ;-) ) but I
do think one thing needs to be straightened out. There are far from
"hundreds of thousands" of people out there using a 200lx. I would be
EXTREMELY suprised if there were still thousands, let alone a hunderd
thousand. Lets get realistic now, total sales figures for the 200lx
don't have anything to do with actual use, do you think that everyone
that ever bought a pet rock or hula hoop is still using it? I agree
that it is quite an impressive machine and for some people it is the
perfect system for portable use but I would be willing to bet that of
the original sales numbers less than 5% are still in active use, if
that many.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:36:50 -0400
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I just received the $99 printer.  I called Shier S&S to order the
direct cable for my HP200LX and the PN60i.  Although David was not in,
the lady I spoke to said that unlike the PN60, the PN60i would not work
with the direct cable.

Does anyone have any experience with the PN60i and a HP200LX?  I hope I
have not purchased a $99 brick!

Chris

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:35:43 -0700
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> Im experimenting with the demo of WWW/LX on my 100lx with a 2400 baud / =
4mb
> flash combo card.  I have run WWWSETUP to configure it for my ISP using =
the
> PPP standard script.  The system connects and establishes the PPP
> connection fine, but in the browser returns that the DNS couldnt find =
the
> site or something similar. Also, if I try to runt WWW "!telnet site.com"=
 it
> connects and gets to the userid / password prompts but locks up at that
> point.

Well, this is a fallacy! At 2400 the connection may or may not be
established. Just because it says PPP established it does not
mean you really have a connection. Check for example the IP
that was provided for you, probably something like 20.0.0.0 -
not a valid IP!

Reasons: 2400 probably too slow. Your setup may not be
completely correct.

Sure it "seems" to go fine to the URL, but then DNS does not
reply. Let me explain: The very first thing that happens when
you open a URL is it must be translated from the "word" to an
IP number, i.e. from "www.dasoft.com" for example, to the
numeric representation. That is the job of DNS. When we try to
access the DNS for this service (the transaltion) nothing
happens, (the connection is dead, despite what it appears to
be!), so after some time, the program concludes that the DNS
does not answer.

> Has anyone experienced similar situations?

Yes, our Tech Support! :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:29:53 +0100
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Hi

I have an 1Mb HP 100LX, which has been work fine untill one day the standard
appointment book application became very slow to load.
If I close the appointment book it now takes about 50 seconds to reload it,
when before it started up in about 1 second. It also sometimes appears to be
slow at some other times, although all other applications seem to work
normally. The appointment book now contains about 200 records and the .adb
file is about 10k big. If I create a new appointment book it works fine untill I try
to import the data from my old file.

I have tried everything I can think of to speed up the appointment book including
reintialising the machine and  then restoring all the data, but as soon as I try to
load in my old data it slows down.

Any ideas?

Secondly, since this is a 1Mb 100LX, what's the best way to increase my
"disk" space. Are any internal upgrades available (as there are on the 200LX)?
Is a PCMCIA memory card a better idea?





 I don't have any non standard
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:58:18 -0700
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Try downloading the IRDA drivers from SUPER.  Rumor has it that the
PN60i will receive IRDA.  You may not need a cable!

Bill

> I just received the $99 printer.  I called Shier S&S to order the
> direct cable for my HP200LX and the PN60i.  Although David was not in,
> the lady I spoke to said that unlike the PN60, the PN60i would not work
> with the direct cable.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the PN60i and a HP200LX?  I hope I
> have not purchased a $99 brick!
>
> Chris
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:10:13 -0500
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>> Indeed, you are correct in your observation.  I think the issue/concern
>> was whether it ran the palmtop display in text or graphics mode.
>> I don't know exactly why the original poster was concerned, but one
>>  application does come to mind - usabilty for the blind.
>
>Yes! That is completely true.
>
>> I'm aware
>> (but have never investigated this) that there are various systems that
>> convert the text on your screen to a braille output device.  I'm pretty
>> sure that the computer has to run in text mode for these things to =
>work.
>> Perhaps there are other reasons why one would want text mode over =
>graphics
>> mode, but this was the first to come to mind.
>
>In this case it'll have to actually strip the tags too, or
>not, depending how the person wants to "see" the Web page,
>contents only, or also formatting.

Um, nope.  Not blind - just looking for something that displays the
text readably and is small.  "hv" exactly fits the bill.  Though a
reader would be a great thing while driving, I have a hard time
believing that it would run on a 200lx.  :)

Sometimes it's amusing how long some of the simpler threads persist
on this list.  :)

Rudy

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:13:02 -0500
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              Holloway" at Jun 18, 98 04:36:50 pm
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> I just received the $99 printer.  I called Shier S&S to order the
> direct cable for my HP200LX and the PN60i.  Although David was not in,
> the lady I spoke to said that unlike the PN60, the PN60i would not work
> with the direct cable.

Oh, my... I just placed my order yesterday!  I checked on the Citizen's
web site, and it sure seemed like the 90i was just a super-set of the
90, the addition of IR being the improvement.  The 90i specifications
*claimed* to have RS-232 serial interface, just like the 90.  I'd be
real curious to learn just what the limitation is.  The more I think
about it, the more skeptical I get...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:19:56 -0500
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> Um, nope.  Not blind - just looking for something that displays the
> text readably and is small.  "hv" exactly fits the bill.  Though a
> reader would be a great thing while driving, I have a hard time
> believing that it would run on a 200lx.  :)
>
> Sometimes it's amusing how long some of the simpler threads persist
> on this list.  :)
>
Rudy:

I was just thinking the same thing the other day.  When I first got a
sound blaster card for my desktop computer, it came with a nifty DOS
utility that would *read* a text file.  I've often wondered if such
capability would work on the palmtop, but presumed that the simple
speaker control wouldn't permit it.

(I use the word *read* in the loosest sense - it sounded often like
the cyborgs from Battle Star Galactica.  I used to delight in giving
my daughter practice spelling test using this program).

-Chris


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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:22:23 -0400
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In Japan, Citizen is selling a similar printer
named PN60Ir and many people are using it
with their 200LXs. I don't know if it is same
as the PN60i thought.

Good luck!
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

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           QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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> > I just received the $99 printer.  I called Shier S&S to order the
> > direct cable for my HP200LX and the PN60i.  Although David was not in,
> > the lady I spoke to said that unlike the PN60, the PN60i would not work
> > with the direct cable.
>
> Oh, my... I just placed my order yesterday!  I checked on the Citizen's
> web site, and it sure seemed like the 90i was just a super-set of the
> 90, the addition of IR being the improvement.  The 90i specifications
> *claimed* to have RS-232 serial interface, just like the 90.  I'd be
> real curious to learn just what the limitation is.  The more I think
> about it, the more skeptical I get...
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> --
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:25:46 -0700
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... was and still is the HP-71B.

http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/hp71.htm
http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/71.jpg

Introduced in 1984 for $525. LCD display with text/graphics mode. Separate
numeric keypad. Built-in BASIC capable of running thousands of preexisting
apps; FORTH and assembler also available. File system with
protection/security support. Open OS with published source code. A plethora
of external devices available, including printers, modems, serial interface,
and video interface. 11 oz. Battery life measured in weeks to months.

The 95LX was HP's sell-out to the world of Microsoft OS domination. The
WinCE machines are merely continuations of the same trend.

- Joe

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:20:25 -0700
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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Ok you are entitled you your opinion (aren't I generous ;-) ) but I
> do think one thing needs to be straightened out. There are far from
> "hundreds of thousands" of people out there using a 200lx. I would be
> EXTREMELY suprised if there were still thousands, let alone a hunderd
> thousand. Lets get realistic now, total sales figures for the 200lx
> don't have anything to do with actual use, do you think that everyone
> that ever bought a pet rock or hula hoop is still using it? I agree
> that it is quite an impressive machine and for some people it is the
> perfect system for portable use but I would be willing to bet that of
> the original sales numbers less than 5% are still in active use, if
> that many.

Well, what have the 400,000 people who have purchased DOS-based LX
computers done with them-- thrown them away?  Gone over to WinCE machines?
Changed over to PalmPilot?  Perhaps some of them, but most of them (who
probably bought it for the Lotus and DOS capabilities) would not be
able to replace their 200LX with anything on the market.

5% of 400,000 is still 20,000, and I would bet that there are still at
least 50,000 DOS-based LX users worldwide.  The vast majority of the 200LX
users I've encountered in person have never heard of HPHand or HPLX-L, and
don't seem to be tremendously interested in communicating with other 200LX
users... so we never get to hear from them.  :)

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:24:40 -0700
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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I was just thinking the same thing the other day.  When I first got a
> sound blaster card for my desktop computer, it came with a nifty DOS
> utility that would *read* a text file.  I've often wondered if such
> capability would work on the palmtop, but presumed that the simple
> speaker control wouldn't permit it.

There is a program called TRAN that sounds similar to the SBAITSO and READ
(I think that's what it was called) programs for the old Sound Blaster.  I
tried it on the 200LX back in early 1995... it worked, but not very well.
<g>

> (I use the word *read* in the loosest sense - it sounded often like
> the cyborgs from Battle Star Galactica.  I used to delight in giving
> my daughter practice spelling test using this program).

Now, add a little bit of static and run it through a PC speaker, and
enclose the speaker inside a thick plastic case, and you can understand
how TRAN sounds.

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Subject:      Re: The Best HP Palmtop ÝRE: XTCE¨
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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> ... was and still is the HP-71B.
> <snip>
> The 95LX was HP's sell-out to the world of Microsoft OS domination. The
> WinCE machines are merely continuations of the same trend.
> <snip>
> The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views.

You mean Microsoft does not share that sentiment?  I'm shocked!  <g>

I must point something out here, though: when the 95LX, 100LX, and 200LX
were released, there were already plenty of DOS programs available.
Windows CE created a whole new platform, leading to a lack of programs--
so the very thing HP could brag about with the DOS-based palmtops was the
worst part about WinCE.

On the other hand, the RISC processors and other new hardware embodied in
the WinCE devices (color screens, voice recorders, 56k modems) helps
alleviate the software troubles...

 --
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Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

<RANT>
Being an opinionated so-and-so I might as well chime in with my $.02
worth about wince.  Avi hit the nail on the head when he pointed out
that the wince machines (no matter how good they may be) are PC
COMPANIONS - NOT palmtop PCs like the 200LX.  For several years, my
100LX and now an 8Mb 2x speed 200LX IS my PC.

As for "modern" OSs, none comes close to passing the KISS (Keep It
Simple, Stupid!) test.  DOS does.

If the 200LX disappears, and I'm faced with the need to buy a machine
thats too big for a pocket, and has short battery life, I'll go for the
Libretto.  AFAIK it doesn't need a "companion".
</RANT>

-PR
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:42:04 +0200
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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > HV is not text based.
>
> So? I don't understand the issue with text based vs. graphical
> based. The HTML documents that arrive are ALL text (ASCII) and
> they just get interpreted and "painted" on the screen by HV in
> a graphical form. I am kinda puzzled about this...

Actually, I was merely stating that HV was not text based, since no one
else seemed to mention it and since the original poster was looking for a
text based system.

Text based browsers are usually faster than graphics based, which is why I
often use Lynx at home even though I have Netscape and thelike. Actually,
HV isn't bad, and certainly faster and smaller than BobCat (previously
known as DosLynx).

I didn't mean to imply that HV was bad, especially not when you consider
the price :-)


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:51:21 -0700
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> On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> > "hundreds of thousands" of people out there using a 200lx. I would be
> > EXTREMELY suprised if there were still thousands, let alone a hunderd
> > thousand. Lets get realistic now, total sales figures for the 200lx
> > don't have anything to do with actual use, do you think that everyone
> > that many.
>
> Well, what have the 400,000 people who have purchased DOS-based LX
> computers done with them-- thrown them away?  Gone over to WinCE machines?

Folks,

Let's not forget those who purchased used machines.  If there were 380,000
unused machines floating around then used machines would be sitting on
helves at every small reseller in the US. Used machines would also cost
$10 - $20



Anyone want to sell me some at that price?


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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:57:52 -0500
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But, Avi, he says that he gets the userid/password prompt when he telnets
to his site - to get that, he would *have* to have a valid PPP connection
to the telnet server.

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > Im experimenting with the demo of WWW/LX on my 100lx with a 2400 baud / 4mb
> > flash combo card.  I have run WWWSETUP to configure it for my ISP using the
> > PPP standard script.  The system connects and establishes the PPP
> > connection fine, but in the browser returns that the DNS couldnt find the
> > site or something similar. Also, if I try to runt WWW "!telnet site.com" it
> > connects and gets to the userid / password prompts but locks up at that
> > point.
>
> Well, this is a fallacy! At 2400 the connection may or may not be
> established. Just because it says PPP established it does not
> mean you really have a connection. Check for example the IP
> that was provided for you, probably something like 20.0.0.0 -
> not a valid IP!
>
> Reasons: 2400 probably too slow. Your setup may not be
> completely correct.
>
> Sure it "seems" to go fine to the URL, but then DNS does not
> reply. Let me explain: The very first thing that happens when
> you open a URL is it must be translated from the "word" to an
> IP number, i.e. from "www.dasoft.com" for example, to the
> numeric representation. That is the job of DNS. When we try to
> access the DNS for this service (the transaltion) nothing
> happens, (the connection is dead, despite what it appears to
> be!), so after some time, the program concludes that the DNS
> does not answer.
>
> > Has anyone experienced similar situations?
>
> Yes, our Tech Support! :)
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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>
> Ok you are entitled you your opinion (aren't I generous ;-) ) but I
> do think one thing needs to be straightened out. There are far from
> "hundreds of thousands" of people out there using a 200lx. I would be
> EXTREMELY suprised if there were still thousands, let alone a hunderd
> thousand. Lets get realistic now, total sales figures for the 200lx
> don't have anything to do with actual use, do you think that everyone
> that ever bought a pet rock or hula hoop is still using it? I agree
> that it is quite an impressive machine and for some people it is the
> perfect system for portable use but I would be willing to bet that of
> the original sales numbers less than 5% are still in active use, if
> that many.
>
> Pete
>
>
> Peter W. Borders
>

Well,

The 200lx is alive and well in Japan with tens of thousands of users,
prominent coverage in computer magazines (regular columns dedicated to the
200lx in at least two magazines) and I regularly see users using their
200lxs, 100lxs on the trains in Tokyo. Also, although the peak of 200lx
boom has passed here, it's still available in many stores in Tokyo.

Cheers,

Bob

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> Fiscal Pro in ROM, which is every bit as capable as the HP Calc built
> into the 200LX. True, it cannot backsolve...

Or "I like it, but it isn't really as good...."

> As for size, yes, the 620/660 are a bit larger than the 200, but so
> what?

Huh? For many, "bigger" is simply "too big". THAT'S what!

> The keyboard is a lot better,...

Oh, they've added a numeric keypad now?

> HP has done an outstanding job of producing a true desktop companion in
> the 620/660

RIGHT. It is just that, a desktop companion. I don't need or want a
desktop companion, I want (and have) a POCKET COMPUTER!

> The 200 was a great machine in its time, but time, HP and the market
> have moved on.

Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a lot of the market has NOT moved on, and
HP still thinks 200's are worth continuing to build....

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Sorry if this has already been addressed recently, but is there a way to
reduce the size of the apt.adb file?  Mine is >20k right now and I'd like to
keep an archive of my previous schedules (I'm weird that way), but I feel that
it would run process faster if it didn't have all of the obsolete references
to sort through.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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> Sorry if this has already been addressed recently, but is there a way =
to
> reduce the size of the apt.adb file?  Mine is >20k right now and I'd =
like to
> keep an archive of my previous schedules (I'm weird that way), but I =
feel that
> it would run process faster if it didn't have all of the obsolete =
references
> to sort through.
>
Take a look at File|Extract in the Appt application - you can use this to =
copy everything before a certain date.
Then do File|Remove to delete from the current file.

I usually just copy my .adb file to my A: drive at the end of the year =
(e.g., as 1997.adb), then File|Remove everything before December 1.

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:42:02 +0100
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In message <199806182205.SAA22488@moon2.web2000.net>, Peniel Romanelli
<peniel@WEB2000.NET> writes
>Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Hi folks-
>
><RANT>
>Being an opinionated so-and-so I might as well chime in with my $.02
>worth about wince.  Avi hit the nail on the head when he pointed out
>that the wince machines (no matter how good they may be) are PC
>COMPANIONS - NOT palmtop PCs like the 200LX.  For several years, my
>100LX and now an 8Mb 2x speed 200LX IS my PC.
>
>As for "modern" OSs, none comes close to passing the KISS (Keep It
>Simple, Stupid!) test.  DOS does.
>
>If the 200LX disappears, and I'm faced with the need to buy a machine
>thats too big for a pocket, and has short battery life, I'll go for the
>Libretto.  AFAIK it doesn't need a "companion".
></RANT>
>
>-PR
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Hi :-)

I like the looks of the libretto but am aware of the seriously low
battery life (in such a high performance little package).

If I were faced with the dilemma of not having the ability to replace my
200LX then (once I had got over being depressed) I would look at
possibly using (grudgiungly) a Psion Series 5.

This is not because I am a Psion fan (I am really not *that* keen on
them) but I believe that they are the best of what is available. They
have retained the true pocket size (unlike the higher specified Geofox
that I would prefer had it been smaller). The Psion also comes with a
reasonable set of applications that are far more complete than what you
get with any WinCE machine. It is also programmable as it comes (not
that I would be programming it every day) that adds some degree of
flexibility and incentives for third parties to create applications.

I also like the fact that the keyboard of the Psion is real keys instead
of buttons. Personally, I have always got on very well with the HP200LX
(and 95 and 100), buttons because you know that you have pressed them
without looking at the screen (you do not get this with any other
palmtop that I have seen to date (unless you know different).

The Psion also does not have a numeric keypad (Big drawback for me (the
Geofox does so I may still go for that version of the EPOC O/S).


I really do agree with your sentiments towards DOS. It should never have
been dropped. The best games still appear (at least to me) to be running
in a DOS environment. Graphics are better and everything runs faster.
I use my HP200LX to send Faxes all over the place and also occasional
Internet/Email connections whilst on the road using a cellular modem. It
is rock steady and rarely complains about my abuses.

Long live the HP200LX!

Cheers
Ross
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Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM> wrote:
> The 95LX was HP's sell-out to the world of Microsoft OS domination.

Nah, that was the HP150.  The 95LX was a new thing in many ways, but a
good bit of the technology in it is the legacy of the 110 and Portable
Plus notebooks, and the 110 was an MS-DOS machine for interoperability
with the HP150.  Well, at least they could understand each other's
disk formats.

I keep a couple of Portable Pluses charged up and ready to go for when
I want to go off somewhere and type for a while.  On a full charge I
can go all day.  They also make handy portable terminals, and have the
advantage of a full-size (though not a full-travel) keyboard.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:05:28 -0700
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I still have a Portable Plus at home... I'm still looking for replacement
HP-IL cables for it.  Can you believe I bought the unit (with 1.5MB of RAM,
Lotus 1-2-3, MS word, and other stuff in ROM), 9114 disk drive, and
Thinkjet printer for $10 at a flea market (specifically the Foothill flea
market in Palo Alto).  A fun machine, even today.  I consider it the
200LX's great-grandfather.  I also have an Omnibook 425, (the 200LX's big
brother).

I do also own the 320LX (the red-headed stepchild).  It's currently
performing adequately for me as my alarm clock.

Bill


On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Frank McConnell wrote:

> I keep a couple of Portable Pluses charged up and ready to go for when
> I want to go off somewhere and type for a while.  On a full charge I
> can go all day.  They also make handy portable terminals, and have the
> advantage of a full-size (though not a full-travel) keyboard.
>
> -Frank McConnell

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:29:50 EST
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> Well, what have the 400,000 people who have purchased DOS-based LX
> computers done with them-- thrown them away?  Gone over to WinCE machines?
> Changed over to PalmPilot?  Perhaps some of them, but most of them (who
> probably bought it for the Lotus and DOS capabilities) would not be
> able to replace their 200LX with anything on the market.
>
> 5% of 400,000 is still 20,000, and I would bet that there are still at
> least 50,000 DOS-based LX users worldwide.  The vast majority of the 200LX
> users I've encountered in person have never heard of HPHand or HPLX-L, and
> don't seem to be tremendously interested in communicating with other 200LX
> users... so we never get to hear from them.  :)
>

Where have the several million people that bought Atari 800's,
Commodore 64's or apple II gone? Mostly on to something more capable
and modern. I would not be suprised if the vast majority of those who
bought 200lx's have just stuck them in a closet, after moving up to a
notebook, or subnotebook or whatever. I would be suprised if there
are still 20,000 active users, people who use it more than maybe once
a year when they run across it.

Its great that it still does what you need but to think that it still
does what a large group of users needs is self delusion. I own lots
of old orphaned computer systems and ever user group or mail list for
every one believes that there is a hugh following just out there that
they are missing, but it isn't generally true. Think about it, if it
was true there would still be a market, which there isn't. How many
software companies released DOS software last year?

Like I said originally, you all that depend on the 200lx better
stockpile several, their days are numbered.

Pete

PS. Just wondering where you got the 400,000 figure? I have never
seen reliable sales figures for the 200lx.



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Re: XTCE

> > Well, what have the 400,000 people who have purchased DOS-based LX
> > computers done with them-- thrown them away?  Gone over to WinCE machines?
>
> Folks,
>
> Let's not forget those who purchased used machines.  If there were 380,000
> unused machines floating around then used machines would be sitting on
> helves at every small reseller in the US. Used machines would also cost
> $10 - $20
>
>
>
> Anyone want to sell me some at that price?
>

That is assuming that people sell them. The vast majority of people
put them in a closet and eventually toss them out, or give them to a
kid to play with. Most people would view the 200lx as virtually
worthless since it doesn't run todays software. People on this list
are unique in that they really appreciate the computer for what it is
and its capabilities. The average buyer was probably more of a PIM
user and just looks at it as a glorified PIM. As such it is
considered disposable.

Also, just because something sells in great numbers doesn't mean that
it will show up for resale in great numbers. If that was true we
would be up to our ears in older computer systems.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Subject:      Re: Wince...

> I really do agree with your sentiments towards DOS. It should never have
> been dropped. The best games still appear (at least to me) to be running
> in a DOS environment. Graphics are better and everything runs faster.
> I use my HP200LX to send Faxes all over the place and also occasional
> Internet/Email connections whilst on the road using a cellular modem. It
> is rock steady and rarely complains about my abuses.
>
> Long live the HP200LX!
>
> Cheers
> Ross
> --
> Ross Lewis

Afraid the one on games is not true. The most graphic intensive games
currently out there are now running exclusively under win95 or winnt.
That is the ONLY reason I still have win95 on my hard drive, to run
Quake II and next Unreal.

Pete


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Chris;

PC Magazine made on of these kinds of things years ago and included it with their
DOS Power Tools book in about 1989.  I'll send it to you if you like.

- Richard Smith


R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> > I have used for years a tsr called dtime that displays a little 8 character
> > digital clock in the upper right corner of my screen. Problem is that it
> > only works in text mode. Graphics mode either kills it or renders it into a
> > little sting of pixels.
>
> Can you provide the name and source of this little utility?  Sounds like
> it would be useful, even given the above mentioned problem.
>
> -Chris
>
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At 10:53 AM 6/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
>A cry for help from the InfoSelect'ers (posted at c.s.p.)

I have InfoSelect in a directory A:\IS.

In the path section of AppMgr I have

a:\is\is.exe N :210

where : is the Shift {Backslash} combination. I don't remember why the N,
but it is important. 210 is the memory kept re for IS. I have found for my
uses that any less and it dies not run, and any more and I am unable to
keep my appointment and phone books active along with IS.


Hope this helps

Alan

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:15:30 -0700
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Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> Where have the several million people that bought Atari 800's,
> Commodore 64's or apple II gone? Mostly on to something more capable
> and modern. I would not be suprised if the vast majority of those who

That's true, but it's also true that the only place you can buy a Commodore
64, an Atari, or an Apple II today is when somebody sells it for $20, or
donates it to a thrift store.  I used to work in the computer division of a
large chain of thrift stores, fixing up old computers that were donated so
they could be sold.  I can't tell you the number of Commodores, Atari's,
and Apple IIe's and IIc's that came through my doors.  BUT, I never saw a
single 95LX, 100LX, or 200LX.

In addition, HP is still making them-- which they wouldn't do if they
weren't selling.  I agree that eventually they will end up in exactly the
same place as the Commodores and Apples-- in thrift stores.  But I think
we're still five or six years away from seeing large numbers of 200LX's
filling the shelves.  (I hope I'm wrong, as that would indicate that a
replacement has come along.  I haven't seen one yet.)

> bought 200lx's have just stuck them in a closet, after moving up to a
> notebook, or subnotebook or whatever. I would be suprised if there
> are still 20,000 active users, people who use it more than maybe once
> a year when they run across it.

As was previously pointed out, the 200LX is still very popular in Japan,
and this is (in my opinion) largely due to advertising.  Think about it:
had the 200LX been promoted with some of the slogans and campaigns proposed
in the Palmtop Paper years ago, there would likely be several million more
units around.

But that's really not the point.  Every person who I've steered into buying
a 200LX in the past few years has found it useful and continued using it.
Friends, relatives, co-workers... of the perhaps twenty or thirty people
I've steered towards purchasing a 200LX, almost all of them are still using
it.  True, some have asked me about the PalmPilot and Windows CE machines,
but only one or two have switched over (and in one case, my cousin bought a
Pilot 5000 and switched back to his 200LX after two weeks).  The idea that
a 200LX user would stick it in a closet and forget about it doesn't
coincide with my experience.  Unless all of palmtop-toting friends and
relatives are unusual, I would think that 200LX users who find it useful at
the beginning continue to do so.

> Its great that it still does what you need but to think that it still
> does what a large group of users needs is self delusion. I own lots
> of old orphaned computer systems and ever user group or mail list for
> every one believes that there is a hugh following just out there that
> they are missing, but it isn't generally true. Think about it, if it
> was true there would still be a market, which there isn't. How many
> software companies released DOS software last year?

There isn't market for mainstream DOS programs, because everybody uses
Windows 95.  But a better gauge would be: how many shareware and commercial
pieces of palmtop software and hardware were released last year?  I can
think of several: WWW/LX and Post/LX, the 8MB memory upgrade, the 32MB
memory upgrade, the Thaddeus CD's, PALDraw, Mainline, Multiworks...

True, it's not a lot of offerings.  On the other hand, if there wasn't
money to be made from volume, Times2 Tech and Thaddeus would be out of
business.

> Like I said originally, you all that depend on the 200lx better
> stockpile several, their days are numbered.

I agree.  And I think you're right that the 200LX's popularity will dwindle
and relegate it to the status of "quaint relic," but before that happens I
hope to have a replacement.

> PS. Just wondering where you got the 400,000 figure? I have never
> seen reliable sales figures for the 200lx.

In late 1996, I asked a friend of mine at HP in Corvallis, Oregon (where my
dad grew up)... he said he talked to some of his co-workers and got an
estimate of 400,000, but this was for all HP DOS palmtops, not just the
200LX.  (i.e. 95LX, 100LX, and 200LX.)
--
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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:02:58 -0400
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>Where have the several million people that bought Atari 800's,
>Commodore 64's or apple II gone? Mostly on to something more capable
>and modern.

Yes, MS-DOS machines.

Jorgen

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Sounds like you are out of memory.

Try playing with the memory settings in Setup/System/Advanced.
I cannot help there as I boot directly to DOS and have never used the PIM=

stuff. Try the FAQ.

The easiest way of expanding memory is to insert a PCMCIA card. An
additional advantage is that you can keep a safe daily backup of your
most vital stuff if your LX locks up while you are on the road.

I use a non-stacked 10Mb SANDISK compactflash (I bought it here in the
UK) and have never had any problems. The different cards have been
extensively discussed earlier this year and you will be well advised to
find them.

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 03:58:21 -0500
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Subject:      Belkin SmartBeam

  Does anyone know anything about the infrared serial-port adapter made by
Belkin that's called "SmartBeam"?  It's physicaly similar to the JetEye,
but it is a different product.  It claims to be Win95 compatable and has
100LX and 200LX listed on the box, but so-far, I've had no luck getting it
to talk from my desktop to my palmtop.  Any ideas?

  While I'm asking IR related questions, I was wondering...  Does anyone
know what the power usage difference is between a direct serial cable
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On Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:01 PM, Alan Peres ÝSMTP:aperes@MCS.NET¨ wrote:
> In the path section of AppMgr I have
>
> a:\is\is.exe N :210
>
> where : is the Shift {Backslash} combination. I don't remember why the N,
> but it is important. 210 is the memory kept re for IS. I have found for
my
> uses that any less and it dies not run, and any more and I am unable to
> keep my appointment and phone books active along with IS.

  The "N" command line option tells IS to run in non-resident mode....

  In this mode, when you exit IS, you really exit IS (memory gets free'd
etc...).  If you don't use the "N", every time you press the AppManager
hotkey to pop-up IS you'd be loading a new copy.  Easy way to run out of
memory real fast....  (Note that the multi-load won't happen if you just
use the IS hotkey to toggle in and out of IS, but when I've done that, I've
eventually had problems with the screen not switching to/from graphics mode
reliably....)

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I have an HP Vectra which is my palmtop companion. I use the desktop only to
access group email. Full Stop.

Instead of spending time in front of something that look like the olde idiot
box, I would rather be lazing by the waterfront with my 200LX and doing the
things most people would have to do on a desktop.

That's quality of life.

RR


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>Bernard:
>
>> Outlook or other PIMs such as Goldmine, ACT, etc. than the 200's
>> outmoded, 16-bit applications.
>
>I might point out to you that the width of the word in the
>operating system makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. This is a
>buzzword which is repeated over and over with little or no
>thought. Excellent systems have been written in 8-bit
>wordsize. You never know the difference, it is only the
>compiler writers who know the difference. If they are smart,
>it makes no difference. If they are not as smart in producing
>a good compiler, then they buzz everyone with the width of the
>word. Sorry, Bernard, this is not even holding enough bits to
>make a whit of difference. Let's get informed here, eh? :)
>
>> As for size, yes, the 620/660 are a bit larger than the 200, but so
>> what? The keyboard is a lot better, the screen is light years ahead and
>> I have two PC/CF card slots.
>
>So what? That is a major point with people who like to close
>the machine and put it into their pocket. I need another arm
>for the WinCE machines. I am willing to live with a screen
>that is not great but DEFINITELY usable (no 200LX user ever
>sued HP for blindness!) And I am willing to live with a usable
>keyboard (with a major advantage in numeric keyboard instead
>of a wrenching overlay) - Where I can take my palmtop, you can
>only come along and watch over my shoulder in despair and
>jealousy, because you can't drag that beast you love so much.
>
>> HP has done an outstanding job of producing a true desktop companion in
>> the 620/660 and its sales reflect this. The 200 was a great machine in
>> its time, but time, HP and the market have moved on.
>
>Now we are talking: Finally you came to grips with the WinCE
>machines! They are companions to desktops, and probably very
>very good ones. Well, it has been said at least 5 million time
>give or take about 4.9 million, the palmtop (I mean the
>Palmtop, not the pregnant companion! :) ) the 200LX is my MAIN
>machine. I run all my businesses on it. I am on the road this
>summer away from my office and have found it to be the best
>item in my luggage except toothbrush and clean underwear. I
>guarantee you that you could not continue with Shore as I
>continue with D&A (and the other stuff I do) while dragging
>the 620/660LX along.
>
>So let's agree here: For a desktop companion, I won't argue -
>the WinCEs are great! But if you carry your desktop with you,
>NOTHING beats the 200LX! You are in the first camp, I am in
>the second.
>
>I appreciate the information you provided, but it lacked the
>main ingredient: the realisation that we are discussing two
>totally, incompatible, and inexchangeable styles of work -
>"tethered" and "loose".
>
>Don't get me wrong - I have tested many WinCE machines. I
>have at home (in storage really) 6 of these babies (the 660
>is the latest). I am not critical of them sinece they fit a
>work style I do not have. But for me, and hundreds of
>thousands of others who are "road warriors" the 200LX is
>unbeatable, while the Wince does not answer the needs. Not at
>all a bad machine, just not what we need.
>
>Anyway, that is the only distinction that I missed in your
>otherwise pretty informative exposee! Thanks for the post!
>
>Oh and I'll write privately soon for some merchandise! :) Be
>well, my friend!
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Terry,

both are good ideas=21
In Appt press Menu File Remove - fill in the date prior to which you want =
to remove the items then DON=27T FORGET TO CHECK SAVE REMOVED ITEMS IN =
ARCHIVE, specify the name for =27t archive then you=27re done.

Happy Weekend

Phil


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>>> Terrence Chun <tchun=40UCLA.EDU> 18.06.98 23.14 >>>
Sorry if this has already been addressed recently, but is there a way to
reduce the size of the apt.adb file?  Mine is >20k right now and I=27d =
like to
keep an archive of my previous schedules (I=27m weird that way), but I =
feel that
it would run process faster if it didn=27t have all of the obsolete =
references
to sort through.

Thanks=21

-- Terry

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Ya betul cakap kamu itu Avi. Ini adalah suratan pertama dalam bahasa Melayu
di dalam newsgroup/kumpulan berita ini. Fikiran awak macam mana?

(It is correct, what you say Avi. This is the first message in Malay in this
newsgroup. Your thoughts?)

I agree we better seperate the languages. People with common understanding
of various languages would refer to those they understand and pass on the
info inevitably.

Next week I will send a note in Swahili, if I can figure it out.

RR

-----Original Message-----
From: A. Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Spanish mailing list


>Jorgen,
>
><< If we start to allow different languages on this list then
>we will soon see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish,
>French, German and so on >>
>
>Easy for you to say ... You know all these languages! :) ---
>Just kiddin'.
>
>I reluctantly agree with you about the bandwidth. If one
>common language is used then we can all read ALL the messages,
>but if we use different languages, then indeed the messages in
>some languages are not readable by me, narrowing my bandwidth,
>and increasing my cost to download.
>
>On the other hand, It is easier for some people to communicate
>in their native language than English.
>
>On the other hand (three hands? :) ...) if these people would
>try English a little bit in this list, their skill in the
>language may improve! :)
>
>Oh well, I dunno...
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Well formulated answer - my feelings entirely=21

Phil

The Brit in Germany


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>>> Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen=40PALMTOP.NET> 18.06.98 16.54 >>>
Hi there=21

> What=27s wrong with a Spanish, or for that matter, a French, German or =
other
> forums? There are numerous Psion forums in many languages, which may =
account
> for why over 100,000 are sold EACH QUARTER.
> >
> If a Spanish language forum broadens WinCE and 200LX use, so much the
> better.
>

It=27s nothing wrong with a Spanish 200LX forum and any other language. =
But
then things had been easier if another e-mail list was created for each
language (don=27t ask me who should do it and so on). I love this list and
it=27s very interesting to see how people all over the world is using =
their
palmtop and new ideas, problems etc. But if we start to use different
languages on this list, it will waste a lost of bandwidth. If I can=27t =
read
a significant amount of messages on this list- why should I then subscribe
to it=21 Since all on this list write and read English- let=27s use it.

If we start to allow different languages on this list then we will soon
see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish, French, German and so on
and it will be very uninteresting since we all will start to loose
interesting information. This list is here so we can share information-
right?

However, it=27s nothing wrong with a message in another language asking =
for
people speaking the same language and would like to discuss specific
language related stuff. Then you can all have a private forum where you
simply create a address list with the groups e-mail addresses.

Jorgen

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Aaaz kin only relate to what aahhh seen, and here's maaa sad, but TRUE,
tail:

        -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

On that cold drizzly morning, I was scheduled to drive the morning van
pool.  It was cold and it was drizzly.  I arrived early, which is customary
for me, so I can sneek in a last smoke before I pull the van out on it's
over-one-hour journey from Montclaire to Downtown Los Angeles.  It was
five-thirty five a.m., and cold and drizzly.

I locked up my truck and walked over to the van and set my bag down by the
front tire of the van.  As I reached for my keys, I made a mental note to
climb out and pick the bag up once the van was started and put it next to
the driver's seat.  Just then, one of the girls stepped out of their car
and for whatever reason that mental note never made it to my hard disk
before my brain reset.  Upshot: I drove away, leaving the shoulder bag
sitting out in the middle of the train station parking lot.

My trusty HP100LX, 2 4mb sandisks, a 5mb ace, an external newton keyboard,
some HT batts, a couple of zip disks and a copy of QST were in that thing.
 Did I say it was cold and drizzly already?

I'd gotten that HP almost three years ago from a nice gent at Office Depot
who'd remembered that there was an unsold demo unit in the back.  I got it
for fifty dollars, boys and girls.  Had the manuals, unmarked name plate
and everything.  I pondered and brooded as I drove home that afternoon.  It
was still drizzling.  If it's not El Nino, it's something else, I swear.

Needless to say, the next day I swung in to action on getting a
replacement, but five hundred dollars I had not!

There were three yuppie types that I knew in the office who had 200's
instead of Franklins (pretty much standard company issue).  Two engineers
(uh-oh, I bet they love that numeric keypad) and one management yuppie.
 Jim, Frank and Dan.  Jim had turned me on to my 95 (which was
stolen--another earlier sad event) and I'd turned Frank on to his 200.  Dan
was an HP recruit from someone else.  One of them is BOUND to want to
upgrade to the 360 or 620.  I was HUNGRY!  One of these guys is going to
give up their 200!

"Heard about your HP, man.  Bummer." said Jim.

"Gonna upgrade?" I responded as I sipped my starbucks.  "Let's go play with
the 360 in the window of this computer store right here and see if it
fits."  He'd just gotten a large cheque so I knew he had dollars.

As it turned out, the girl said that if we took it out of the box we had to
buy it!  We walked out.  Jeepers.  Jim seemed somewhat open to the idea of
upgrading, though, so we followed up and did some research on the web.

"What?  No decent calculator?  No backsolver?  And NO QUICKEN?  What about
VR for my Guttenberg stuff?"  Now, Jim's a consultant and he needs his
quicken, and he's a big reader.  His thoughts of upgrading quickenly died
as he looked at the battery life comparisons, the incompatible file system
and the fact that the powerpoint program was--heck--just a viewer!  Oh
well, on to Frank -- the OTHER engineer.

"No keypad, bud.  And no calculator and no FREE FORM DATABASE for my CD
collection!  Do you know how many times I bought duplicate CDs before I
loaded this thing on my HP?  Sorry dude."  I mean, Frank OWED me -- I'd
built him an extra-long-corded power cube for his HP from an old Xircom
wall wart (make sure to swap the polarity, chaps).

Dan was my last hope.  Dan was also the least technically oriented one
amongst 'em and he likes Win95, so the 620 seemed like a sure thing.  Heck,
it was COLOR!  And it had a START BUTTON!

I arranged to meet him at Staples where I had pre-arranged, via phone, a
session with the thing so that we could spend some time with it.  And
played with it we did.  No freeform database, no easy note taker, no decent
calculator, you pretty much have to use the stylus until you figure out the
keystrokes, and WAY more expensive--almost a thousand dollars after tax.
 And it looks like schedule synch is non-recorded-transaction based, so
he's going to be spending half his life reconciling data table conflicts!
 And no Freecell (curtis cameron has a fanclub here). "But while we're here
Martin, can you show me how to trim up my sked file?  It's getting kinda
big and kinda slow."

"You're backing it up, right?"

"Yep, every day.  It's on this 10mb sandisk that plugs right in to my
laptop.  Couldn't be easier.  Can I do that with the 620?"

"Umm, I don't think so."

"Why don't you get a 360, Martin?"

"I don't think it has system macros, Dan." <sniff>

It was nice to have solved a small problem (the sked file), but I was
pretty dejected.  I was a failure at sales, I guess.

        -=-=-=-=-=-=-

Moral of the story?  Wear blinkers in the morning until you've had your
coffee.

As a post-script, I picked up a used 100 with some keyboard problems for
$100.  I just got a bonus and I'm buying a friend's 200 -- not because he's
not using it, but because he's hard up for cash and can use the $300 more.
 I'll send the 100LX to Mack to fix up and keep it as a spare, after I get
the 200 upgraded to 8/doublespeed.

So, Pete, how may people have you successfully pried a 200 away from?  I've
got a hunch you won't do it via e-mail to this list.

Kind regards to the tremendous crowd here,

Martin

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On 1998-06-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to rhemery@powerup.com.au
   >>Has anyone got a better solution:  Interlnk or Laplink working on
   >>NT 4.0? (Problem w/ interlnk, if it will work, is that I have to
   >>eat up 200LX system ram loading device=interlnk.exe at bootup.)
   >How about setting up separate startup files (CONFIG.SYS and
   >AUTOEXEC.BAT): one for file transfers, one for normal use.  There
   >is a program available to do this on SUPER (I forget the name
   >offhand; it's one of the new files there).  This way you don't load
   >up the driver unless you need it.


Another way I believe may work is to load Interlnk with the /auto option.. I
do this and dont have RAM CRAM.. It may take a little but does not load
unless Intersvr is detected running and cable connected.

Regards

Russell

The config prog is Dynaboot.zip on SUPER

Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:04:53 -0400
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How can I upload calendar info from my HP200 to the Lotus Notes calendar?=


Phil Godden

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When that day comes I'll rather run DOS on my Pentium (overkill) Libretto 50, than
emulate it at a snail pace with XTCE.
I've done it for fun 10 years ago with my Amiga computer, and at that time it was
amazing.
Today, I need to be productive, not amusing, so lets not emulate a good thing on
top of a not so good thing, even tough Bill Gates is counting on it.

Jeffcom

Peter W. Borders wrote:

> > Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense now.  I glad to know that you are
> > incorporating so many 200lx features.  But, why not just buy a 200lx?
> >
>
> Can you say future availability? It won't be long before HP totally
> drops the Hp200lx as I doubt that sales are that great. Like it or
> not there just isn't much market for a small dos based machine
> anymore. Also, while I know that everyone on this list will holler
> about how much there is to run and how great it is ad infinitum, this
> list is a tiny little miniscule sub-atomic drop in the bucket as far
> as sales numbers are concerned. What is the list membership, around
> 1000 now? I hardly think that HP is concerned about 1000 users, no
> matter how loyal. They probably wouldn't be concerned about 10000, if
> there are even that many left.
>
> Pete
>
> PS. All you die hard hp200lx fans better go out and buy a couple and
> store them well, they are the last of a breed.
>
> Peter W. Borders
>
> Network Support Technician
> Tidewater Community College
> tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:49:45 -0400
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OK, I now know we have a bunch of DOS fans out there. I also know we have a
bunch of WinCE fans out there.

Could we please drop this argument now?
This thing's like a nuclear war - YOU CAN'T WIN

DOS won't do it all. WinCE won't either. Neither will OS/2, WinNT, LINUX,
Win95, PSION, UNIX, SGI, PALMPILOT, NOVELL, etc...,etc......,etc.....

If you've found something that does what you need, stick with it and be
happy.

If you haven't, keep looking because there's always gonna be a newer choice
out there.

'Nuff said.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

Current owner of the following working machines:

IBM PC (8088) running DOS 2
HP200lx (DOS)
HP360lx (WinCE)
ATARI 400 / 600XL
APPLE IIc / IIe
PSION 5
P2/266 running Win98
P/200 mmx running WinNT
IBM Workpad (Palmpilot)
P2/400 running Win95
AMD 5x86/133 running Linux
Rex
p/75 running Solaris
SGI O/2
p/133 running Netware
486/25 running DOS/Win3.1
486/66 running OS/2

I could go on like this argument, but why?

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:40:51 -0400
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I own a Megahertz 3144 which came enclosed in a snug plastic case a la
cassette case.
I'm sure someone manufactures these cases.

Jeffcom

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:34:34 -0400
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Ditto...(bis)

Jeffcom

Pablo KIM wrote:

> Hi Al...
>
> It=B4s not a obligation use just english in this list.
>
> The HPLX is so much palmtop to use in english only.
> :-)
>
> Pablo KIM
>
>
>
> ----------
> > De: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
> > A:
> > Asunto: Re: Spanish Palmtop's mailing list
> > Fecha: Martes 16 de Junio de 1998 6:22 PM
> >
> > oi cheeko
> > como esta?
> > favor,
> > aqui se habla engles, solamente.
> > muchas gracias
> >
> > :) tu amigo al.................
> >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________________
> > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
> > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨
> >
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Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> Like educalc? Times2 Tech and Thaddeus survive because of really low
> overhead. I can still get brand new software, just developed, for
> lots of old systems, doesn't mean that there is much market just that
> anything that the "company" sells is almost pure profit so they might
> as well sell what they can.

Hey, now, Educalc died because HP sold products to competitors like Office
Depot who could sell them cheaper-- as was pointed out (quite poetically, I
might add) by Joe Horn in his EduCalc obituary on comp.sys.hp48, which was
forwarded to this list on December 16, 1997 by Ian Butler.

As for the low overhead, it actually costs quite a bit of money to stay in
the 200LX business-- not so much for the software, but the hardware
upgrades are very expensive to develop and produce.  I'm currently involved
in a hardward upgrade for the LX that I think most of the list members and
other 200LX users will like, and it's definitely not cheap. But there have
been many thousands of hardware upgrades sold since they were created for
the 200LX, and they're still selling well, so...
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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I don't want to get into this, but I do want to mention that QuakeII runs
perfectly well under DOS. I haven't tried my copy of Unreal yet.

I will say there's no way either will run on the 200lx.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
rivrwolf@hom.net

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Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Wince...


>Afraid the one on games is not true. The most graphic intensive games
>currently out there are now running exclusively under win95 or winnt.
>That is the ONLY reason I still have win95 on my hard drive, to run
>Quake II and next Unreal.
>
>Pete
>
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:18:26 -0400
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I found a source for cheap EigerCombo  33.6K + 10bT/2 Ethernet Cards.
They specify a power drain of +5V DC, 560 mA Max (2.8 watts), 400mA
Typical (2.0 watts).  I couldn't find the limits for my 100 on the manual
What are they?
Has anyone tried this card?


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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:12:32 -0600
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Spread the word:
Anyone who no longer uses their HP Palmtop may store it in my closet
FREE OF CHARGE, for up to a year - after which I will consider it a
gift! :-)

Just kidding - sort of, but if anybody knows someone who wants to get
rid of one, my "services" are available!  Especially a 1000CX or 200LX.

Richard Smith

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:09:46 EST
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Subject:      Re: XTCE
Comments: To: David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>

> True, it's not a lot of offerings.  On the other hand, if there wasn't
> money to be made from volume, Times2 Tech and Thaddeus would be out of
> business.
>

Like educalc? Times2 Tech and Thaddeus survive because of really low
overhead. I can still get brand new software, just developed, for
lots of old systems, doesn't mean that there is much market just that
anything that the "company" sells is almost pure profit so they might
as well sell what they can.

Pete


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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:04:20 -0600
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Terrance,
Use "Extract" on the File menu.
Richard

Terrence Chun wrote:

> Sorry if this has already been addressed recently, but is there a way to
> reduce the size of the apt.adb file?  Mine is >20k right now and I'd like to
> keep an archive of my previous schedules (I'm weird that way), but I feel that
> it would run process faster if it didn't have all of the obsolete references
> to sort through.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Terry
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Comments: To: Abziar Vakharia <abizar@SHULTS.COM>

> Date sent:      Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:28:53 -0700
> Send reply to:  abizar@shults.com
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Yes you are, even to mailing lists. :-)

I am sory that was a cheap shot but the subject and the lack of
content just begged for a reply. I will go stand in the corner now.

Pete

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> think of several: WWW/LX and Post/LX, the 8MB memory upgrade, the 32MB
> memory upgrade, the Thaddeus CD's, PALDraw, Mainline, Multiworks...

Goin' Postal.... :-)

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Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:36:07 -0600
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Peniel;
Thank you!  My thoughts precisely!  It seems that people have been
"programmed" to think that DOS is hard to use or whatever.  Well, clicking
a mouse is certainly easier than typing a command, but it would seem that
the direct approach is the most efficient -- at least as far as disk space
and memory are concerned.  I have used way too many Windows programs that
required way too many mouse-clicks to do something that could be simply
done in DOS with a few keystrokes.

I believe that the simple truth is that people are lazy and don't want to
take the time and expend the effort to learn how to use a computer.  In the
computer lab where I work at the local college, people are constantly
asking the same questions over and over, but if they would just do some
reading and thinking, then they would answer their own questions and I
could concentrate on the less trivial things.

However, these ravings about one system being better that the other are the
same kind of things that Mac, Unix, Amiga, etc. users have gone on about
for years.  The fact is (IMHO) that some systems are better for some
people/kinds of people/some kinds of jobs than other systems.  It seems
that the Mac is best for desktop publishing, Amiga is best for graphics,
etc.

But, for my use, I'll go with my 200LX and my Win95 laptop and desktop
systems.  The HP 200LX is perfect for those, like us, of superior
intelligence!  ;-)

- Richard Smith


Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hi folks-
>
> <RANT>
> Being an opinionated so-and-so I might as well chime in with my $.02
> worth about wince.  Avi hit the nail on the head when he pointed out
> that the wince machines (no matter how good they may be) are PC
> COMPANIONS - NOT palmtop PCs like the 200LX.  For several years, my
> 100LX and now an 8Mb 2x speed 200LX IS my PC.
>
> As for "modern" OSs, none comes close to passing the KISS (Keep It
> Simple, Stupid!) test.  DOS does.
>
> If the 200LX disappears, and I'm faced with the need to buy a machine
> thats too big for a pocket, and has short battery life, I'll go for the
> Libretto.  AFAIK it doesn't need a "companion".
> </RANT>
>
> -PR
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Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> That is assuming that people sell them. The vast majority of people
> put them in a closet and eventually toss them out, or give them to a
> kid to play with. Most people would view the 200lx as virtually
> worthless since it doesn't run todays software. People on this list
> are unique in that they really appreciate the computer for what it is
> and its capabilities. The average buyer was probably more of a PIM
> user and just looks at it as a glorified PIM. As such it is
> considered disposable.

C'mon, Pete, as a network tech I'm sure you've seen how often home users
like to stick with what they learn the first time they buy a computer!  I
mean, heck, until 1992 my parents were still running their home office out
of PerfectCalc, on a Kaypro II with 64K RAM.  Then they "upgraded" to a
Macintosh LC, and what a nightmare THAT was.  When I finally got them to
add a Windows 95 machine to their setup (early 1997), all I heard for
months was "I hate that computer.  Why can't it work the same as my other
computer?"

I still routinely have to go out and swap out ancient components on 8088's
and 286's where people are running Quicken 3 for DOS and WordPerfect 5.1.

"Wouldn't you like to upgrade to Windows 95?"

"Windows 95?  Wuzzat?"

"It's a 32-bit graphical operating system."

"Hmm... okay, put it on and show me how."

<choke> <snicker> "Well, um, you'll need to buy a Pentium..."

"WHAT?  GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!"  <slam>

Next day:

"Yeah, I had that guy out here to look at my computer, and he tries to get
me involved in witchcraft... talking about pentiums and stuff... dang
cults..."

<g>

> Also, just because something sells in great numbers doesn't mean that
> it will show up for resale in great numbers. If that was true we
> would be up to our ears in older computer systems.

We _are_ up to our ears!  Unless they break down, a lot of people donate
them to thrift stores, or give them to cheap (ah, I mean, "economical")
friends.  I went through an average of six used computers a day (and I know
that because I tracked it in Quattro for DOS) while working at the thrift
store-- about a hundred and twenty a month.  There was _never_ a shortage
in that department.  We'd get gigantic trucks coming in and unloading whole
trailers full of monitors, printers, and computers.
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Joe,
Sorry, but I think that HP 71 is a bit too basic for me.  It would be nice if
someone could make a simple, open system handheld like the 200lx -- but I'm not
going to hold my breath for it.

It's interesting that you speak of  "HP's sell-out to the world of Microsoft OS
domination" and you work for Microsoft.  Are you saying that in a negative or
positive way?  Is "Microsoft OS domination" a good or bad thing?

Richard Smith


Joe Barrera wrote:

> ... was and still is the HP-71B.
>
> http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/hp71.htm
> http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/71.jpg
>
> Introduced in 1984 for $525. LCD display with text/graphics mode. Separate
> numeric keypad. Built-in BASIC capable of running thousands of preexisting
> apps; FORTH and assembler also available. File system with
> protection/security support. Open OS with published source code. A plethora
> of external devices available, including printers, modems, serial interface,
> and video interface. 11 oz. Battery life measured in weeks to months.
>
> The 95LX was HP's sell-out to the world of Microsoft OS domination. The
> WinCE machines are merely continuations of the same trend.
>
> - Joe
>
> Joseph S. Barrera III
> {allegra,ihnp4,decvax}!microsoft!joebar
> <http://research.microsoft.com/~joebar/>
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Guys

Does anyone out there have a copy of ACT=21 for the palmtop that they =
would like to sell me?=20

Symantec don=27t mention it on their website so is there anywhere else I =
can get it?

Thanks in advance

Phil


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I just sent my info in to register www/lx, and I was wondering how long it
takes to get registered?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:10:46 -0400
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Not only that but I can use it while I'm in the can. I never have to be
so obvious as to carry a newspaper in. I take my trusty LX and read
E-mail or be downright productive. It's where I do some of my best
thinkin' ;-).


BTW: Try doing that with a Vectra and you'll get electrocuted.(Mental
Picture...LOL!!)



Later dudez.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rashid Abdul Razak
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Sent: 6/19/98 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ XTCE

I have an HP Vectra which is my palmtop companion. I use the desktop
only to
access group email. Full Stop.

Instead of spending time in front of something that look like the olde
idiot
box, I would rather be lazing by the waterfront with my 200LX and doing
the
things most people would have to do on a desktop.

That's quality of life.

RR


-----Original Message-----
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Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: XTCE


>Bernard:
>
>> Outlook or other PIMs such as Goldmine, ACT, etc. than the 200's
>> outmoded, 16-bit applications.
>
>I might point out to you that the width of the word in the
>operating system makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. This is a
>buzzword which is repeated over and over with little or no
>thought. Excellent systems have been written in 8-bit
>wordsize. You never know the difference, it is only the
>compiler writers who know the difference. If they are smart,
>it makes no difference. If they are not as smart in producing
>a good compiler, then they buzz everyone with the width of the
>word. Sorry, Bernard, this is not even holding enough bits to
>make a whit of difference. Let's get informed here, eh? :)
>
>> As for size, yes, the 620/660 are a bit larger than the 200, but so
>> what? The keyboard is a lot better, the screen is light years ahead
and
>> I have two PC/CF card slots.
>
>So what? That is a major point with people who like to close
>the machine and put it into their pocket. I need another arm
>for the WinCE machines. I am willing to live with a screen
>that is not great but DEFINITELY usable (no 200LX user ever
>sued HP for blindness!) And I am willing to live with a usable
>keyboard (with a major advantage in numeric keyboard instead
>of a wrenching overlay) - Where I can take my palmtop, you can
>only come along and watch over my shoulder in despair and
>jealousy, because you can't drag that beast you love so much.
>
>> HP has done an outstanding job of producing a true desktop companion
in
>> the 620/660 and its sales reflect this. The 200 was a great machine
in
>> its time, but time, HP and the market have moved on.
>
>Now we are talking: Finally you came to grips with the WinCE
>machines! They are companions to desktops, and probably very
>very good ones. Well, it has been said at least 5 million time
>give or take about 4.9 million, the palmtop (I mean the
>Palmtop, not the pregnant companion! :) ) the 200LX is my MAIN
>machine. I run all my businesses on it. I am on the road this
>summer away from my office and have found it to be the best
>item in my luggage except toothbrush and clean underwear. I
>guarantee you that you could not continue with Shore as I
>continue with D&A (and the other stuff I do) while dragging
>the 620/660LX along.
>
>So let's agree here: For a desktop companion, I won't argue -
>the WinCEs are great! But if you carry your desktop with you,
>NOTHING beats the 200LX! You are in the first camp, I am in
>the second.
>
>I appreciate the information you provided, but it lacked the
>main ingredient: the realisation that we are discussing two
>totally, incompatible, and inexchangeable styles of work -
>"tethered" and "loose".
>
>Don't get me wrong - I have tested many WinCE machines. I
>have at home (in storage really) 6 of these babies (the 660
>is the latest). I am not critical of them sinece they fit a
>work style I do not have. But for me, and hundreds of
>thousands of others who are "road warriors" the 200LX is
>unbeatable, while the Wince does not answer the needs. Not at
>all a bad machine, just not what we need.
>
>Anyway, that is the only distinction that I missed in your
>otherwise pretty informative exposee! Thanks for the post!
>
>Oh and I'll write privately soon for some merchandise! :) Be
>well, my friend!
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:16:06 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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I've been looking for a cheap used 200LX for awhile now. Seems the used
prices have gone up, both in c.s.p. and in ebay since the 32mb upgrade has
been offered.

Hope you guys n' gals aren't hoarding these already ...  at least not
before I get my 3rd!

Also, we'll have to quiet our fervor a bit before the more normal people
in the world decide to commit us for hanging onto an OS they've all given
up for dead.

BTW, can anyone recommend a decent utility that'll search ZIP archives for
a text string? I've tried ZGREP, but it doesn't have an option to display
the context or line in which the string was found.

- Longden

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Peter W. Borders wrote:

That is assuming that people sell them (LXs). The vast
majority of people put them in a closet and eventually
toss them out, or give them to a kid to play with. Most
people would view the 200lx as virtually worthless since
it doesn't run todays software. People on this list are
unique in that they really appreciate the computer for
what it is and its capabilities. The average buyer was
probably more of a PIM user and just looks at it as a
glorified PIM. As such it is considered disposable.

They also don't read PALM TOP PAPER or are on this board.
But we can advertise the fact that their unwanted LXs are
indeed wanted in free newspapers like THE VOICE in NY,
which gets nationwide coverage or READER in Chicago, or
bulletin boards on the internet. It requires some action.
Think of the benefits, lots of cheep LXs. Who knows, the next generation
may clamor for faster portable DOS color machines.

any ideas?

Yor pal al .....................

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Trivia
Peter W. Borders wrote:
C'mon, Pete, as a network tech I'm sure you've seen how
often home users like to stick with what they learn the
first time they buy a computer!  I mean, heck, until
1992 my parents were still running their home office out
of PerfectCalc, on a Kaypro II with 64K RAM.

Back in the 60s Big Blue had class for tab/computer
operators. and taught next higher ops like 1401, 360,
370 programming and mgmnt stuff. You could learn a lot
of nifty esoteric stuff (A must have for advancement),
but yu had you get your company to send you, but that
wasn't hard. It was a perk. You could even sucker your
boss by telling him you'd go on your time if yu had the
night shift.  All he had to do was put your name on the
list which he'd gladly do if yu did it on your time.
Something called motivation for self improvement.
What did Big Blue get for teaching all those swelling
classes of MUST HAVE goodies? The company that started
the phrase THERE ARE NO FREE LUNCHS. Guess what machine
the new supervisors and managers brought for new companies
that they went to as DATA PROCESSINNG manager?

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:48:55 +0100
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Hi=20

I experienced the same Carousel bug that was reported on this list but =
more worryingly I have since noticed that even if I delete the SC tmp =
file and initialise the Ram disk I am still 2MB short??

I had a 4MB upgrade from NSW about a year ago and can now only see 3MB =
on my C: drive. My Swap file was 2MB and the ESC-ON diagnostics only =
reveal 3MB. I am wondering if is possible that one of the Rams has =
failed of if the rampant SC problem has done something more fundamental?

Any Ideas, or anyone seen anything similar?

Ralph Thomson
Now where did I put that PDA?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:21:18 -0400
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complete 20 shipped us
thanks riley@iglou.com

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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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>The appointment book now contains about 200 records and the .adb file is
>about 10k big. If I create a new appointment book it works fine untill I
>try to import the data from my old file.
That's not a big appointment book at all.  It sounds like you have one or
more repeating records which are causing problems.  If you can do without
them, use the REMOVE function to get rid of old appointments (MAKE A
BACKUP COPY OF THE FILE FIRST).  See if the problem goes away.  If it
does, you can go back to the original file (MAKE ANOTHER BACKUP) and do
smaller deletions of old appointments until you get rid of the offending
record(s).

>Secondly, since this is a 1Mb 100LX, what's the best way to increase my
>"disk" space. Are any internal upgrades available (as there are on the
>200LX)?  Is a PCMCIA memory card a better idea
As far as I know, there is no way to upgrade the 100LX.  PCMCIA flash
cards are pretty cheap these days (a little more than $10-12/MB in the
US).  The main catch is the loss of the slot for a modem.

Cheers and good luck.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:32:42 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Eiger PC card works?
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At 23:18 18/06/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I found a source for cheap EigerCombo  33.6K + 10bT/2 Ethernet Cards.
>They specify a power drain of +5V DC, 560 mA Max (2.8 watts), 400mA
>Typical (2.0 watts).  I couldn't find the limits for my 100 on the manual

150 mA max can be provided for the PCCARD (even with the wall adapter
connected), so, forget about that card.

Regards. Nacho.

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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998 Alex Baker <abaker@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> wrote:

>Thankyou to all who helped me print to my Canon BJ200.
>I am now printing direct through my P.C. to the printer
>using the connectivity pack and a DOS program called
>Omniprint, Al Kind emailed me the other day. Thanks Al!
>I thoroughly recommend this small and useful program.
>No extra cable, no extra serial printers, not even a
>(dare I say it:) Machintosh is needed! Perhaps the guys at
>S.U.P.E.R. could put it on the list.

That's great!

Unfortunately, when I retrieved Omniprint it from S.U.P.E.R.
and tried it with my BJ230 (the 200's wide-carriage brother),
all I got was flashing lights and form feeds.

Perhaps you could provide a few more details on how
you did it.

Or perhaps just show me where I went wrong. I:

- Connected 200LX by HP serial cable to COM1 on desktop.
- Set HP printer to Com1, 9600, IBM Proprinter.
 (My BJ200 is always set up as a Proprinter.)
- On the desktop, issued command omniprn 1,9600.
- On the HP, attempted to print from Memo, and from DOS.

It all seems as though it's going to work, but then just =

fizzles as described.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

S.Todd

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:40:12 -0700
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> Not only that but I can use it while I'm in the can. I never have to be
> so obvious as to carry a newspaper in. I take my trusty LX and read
> E-mail or be downright productive. It's where I do some of my best
> thinkin' ;-).

You'll get no argument from me, Ed.  I'm there right now.  :)

Bill

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Subject:      SMART modem/mem combo card...

Earlier there was some discussion re the modem portion of a SMART card
refusing to work... was there any resolution? I pulled mine out of a
drawer to give it a try prior to putting it up for sale, and it won't
work either. All setups ok  but I just get a NO DIALTONE msg when I try
to use it... ATZ, ATH0, various other commands all get OK.. If I put in
a Megahertz modem card it works just fine, which makes me think the
problem is with the SMART card. I've had it for 3+ years, but I used it
only two or three times when I first bought it (when I bought my first
palmtop I bought it not realizing it was only 2400 baud - they used to
advertise it as 14,400/2,400 fax/data - snarl)  and it has been sitting
in a drawer ever since. The cable that goes with it looks fine... Any
ideas?
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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:40:33 -0700
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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Bill Childers wrote:

> > Not only that but I can use it while I'm in the can. I never have to be
> > so obvious as to carry a newspaper in. I take my trusty LX and read
> > E-mail or be downright productive. It's where I do some of my best
> > thinkin' ;-).
>
> You'll get no argument from me, Ed.  I'm there right now.  :)

Obviously, what we REALLY need is a waterproofing upgrade.

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I happened to bump into this; maybe it'll help:

http://www.ripoffs.com/hand.htm
                        the REELINE company
                P.O. Box 3270 San Dimas, CA 91773
         Toll Free in the U.S.:800-648-8910  Fax:909-592-6469
                    International:909-593-5924
                    e-mail: sales@ripoffs.com

-Noel

James Gill wrote:

> The name of the company that makes RIPOFFS is The Reeline Co. in Calif.
> They can be found on the web at ripoffs.com and the HP200LX takes a model
> CO-29 I think.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:29:45 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> > Not only that but I can use it while I'm in the can. I never have to be
> > so obvious as to carry a newspaper in. I take my trusty LX and read
> > E-mail or be downright productive. It's where I do some of my best
> > thinkin' ;-).
>
> You'll get no argument from me, Ed.  I'm there right now.  :)

Now if someone would just develop a tiny electronic scribe interfaced
to the LX one could write some beautiful bathroom poetry in Memo and
scroll it on the wall in a nice font.  Much more readable than when
it's done with a pocket knife. :-)

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:09:39 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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Hello Longden,

> I've been looking for a cheap used 200LX for awhile now. Seems the used
> prices have gone up, both in c.s.p. and in ebay since the 32mb upgrade
has
> been offered.

What is c.s.p.?

Thank you,
Yujin

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:13:43 -0700
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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> What is c.s.p.?

The Usenet group comp.sys.palmtops.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:33:14 -0400
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Pretty cool. I especially like the card reader. They should have kept
the BASIC language and Card reader with the new DOS and CGA screen.
It's a cute machine but, let's face it, they added functionality and
capabilities from this unit to the LX whereas they actually took much
away with the CE machines. For example, I use Foxpro 2.0 on my LX. I
have yet to see a database application that comes close to this on CE.


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Joe Barrera Ýmailto:joebar@MICROSOFT.COM¨
                Sent:   Thursday, June 18, 1998 5:26 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        ÝHPLX-L¨ The Best HP Palmtop ÝRE: XTCE¨

                ... was and still is the HP-71B.

                http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/hp71.htm
                http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/71.jpg

                Introduced in 1984 for $525. LCD display with
text/graphics mode. Separate
                numeric keypad. Built-in BASIC capable of running
thousands of preexisting
                apps; FORTH and assembler also available. File system
with
                protection/security support. Open OS with published
source code. A plethora
                of external devices available, including printers,
modems, serial interface,
                and video interface. 11 oz. Battery life measured in
weeks to months.

                The 95LX was HP's sell-out to the world of Microsoft OS
domination. The
                WinCE machines are merely continuations of the same
trend.

                - Joe

                Joseph S. Barrera III
                {allegra,ihnp4,decvax}!microsoft!joebar
                <http://research.microsoft.com/~joebar/>
                The opinions expressed in this message are my own
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Subject:      Ripoff Pouch
Comments: To: istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM

Noel and Jimmy

http://www.ripoffs.com/hand.htm
                        the REELINE company
                P.O. Box 3270 San Dimas, CA 91773
         Toll Free in the U.S.:800-648-8910  Fax:909-592-6469
                    International:909-593-5924
                    e-mail: sales@ripoffs.com

The name of the company that makes RIPOFFS is
The Reeline Co. in Calif.
They can be found on the web at ripoffs.com
and the HP200LX takes a model CO-29, I think.

Appriciate the public service.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:33:29 +0100
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In message <5D3E1EB2B63@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>, Peter W. Borders
<TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US> writes
>> I really do agree with your sentiments towards DOS. It should never have
>> been dropped. The best games still appear (at least to me) to be running
>> in a DOS environment. Graphics are better and everything runs faster.
>> I use my HP200LX to send Faxes all over the place and also occasional
>> Internet/Email connections whilst on the road using a cellular modem. It
>> is rock steady and rarely complains about my abuses.
>>
>> Long live the HP200LX!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ross
>> --
>> Ross Lewis
>
>Afraid the one on games is not true. The most graphic intensive games
>currently out there are now running exclusively under win95 or winnt.
>That is the ONLY reason I still have win95 on my hard drive, to run
>Quake II and next Unreal.
>
>Pete
>
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
>tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
>

Hi Peter :-)

The comment made really was meant to underline just how good and stable
DOS (in spite of it's limitations) was and still is for many users.

I have not seen Quake 2 but based upon what I saw of Quake (Original) it
ought to be good. We are now getting into running operating systems that
demand a much higher level of hardware than ever before. Other games
that have been created for Win95 based upon DirectX are all rather poor
in my experience. Do Quake and Quake 2 use DirectX ? and do they run
from the C:\ command line or from within the Graphical Windows 95 Shell?


Cheers
Ross
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Not being known for passing up good deals, I ordered a Citizen PN60i for $99
from MicroWarehouse and received it today. It actually came yesterday, but I
was not here to sign for it.

I would have to give this thing a big "two thumbs up"!

I was able to print to it using the IrDA drivers on SUPER and using my
TransDigital parallel port card hooked to the parallel cable that ships with
the printer. I tried everything I knew of to get the printer to work without
using the IrDA drivers, but it would not comply. The manual says it is "IrDA
SIR-1.0 infrared" which gave me hope, but it seems you can't get it to drop the
IrDA portion and just do SIR which the HP would like very much.

Print quality is very good; approaching laser, but not quite.

I would think that the Shier Systems cable for the PN60 would work just fine.
All you have to do to get the serial interface up is to turn off the IrDA
interface. This then allows you to set baud rate and handshaking.

This is a great deal for anyone needing a super small printer.

Mitch

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I have to support what Peter has said.  I just ran across a person in one
of our offices that uses an HP200LX.  They know of at least 4 other people
that "won" HP200LX's in a promotion and probably never use them.  They are
sitting in a box in a closet.  Brand new, pristine units that were used
once or twice.  While this is certainly an exception (that they didn't buy
them out of need), I think it may typify the causual handheld user.

Makes you cringe......doesn't it?
Jim J.




"Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US> on 06/18/98 09:37:36 PM

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> > Well, what have the 400,000 people who have purchased DOS-based LX
> > computers done with them-- thrown them away?  Gone over to WinCE
machines?
>
> Folks,
>
> Let's not forget those who purchased used machines.  If there were
380,000
> unused machines floating around then used machines would be sitting on
> helves at every small reseller in the US. Used machines would also cost
> $10 - $20
>
>
>
> Anyone want to sell me some at that price?
>

That is assuming that people sell them. The vast majority of people
put them in a closet and eventually toss them out, or give them to a
kid to play with. Most people would view the 200lx as virtually
worthless since it doesn't run todays software. People on this list
are unique in that they really appreciate the computer for what it is
and its capabilities. The average buyer was probably more of a PIM
user and just looks at it as a glorified PIM. As such it is
considered disposable.

Also, just because something sells in great numbers doesn't mean that
it will show up for resale in great numbers. If that was true we
would be up to our ears in older computer systems.

Pete


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Hi all,

Well, I've done it again. I managed to get into a situation where
I had to rebuild my flash card, and in the process of installing
Turbo C2.0, I encountered an error. Everything installed OK, except
for the 3 include files located in \tc\include\sys. Could someone
out there that's using TC 2.0 zip them up and send them to
me? I've tried taking the ones from several later versions if Borland
C++, but they aren't compatible.

If you're concerned about licenses, I own a copy of every version
of Turbo C/Borland C++ from 1.0 on (all legally purchased!). I was
into using the backup floppies for 2.0, since my originals died
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If you could, please send them to johnmcd@ix.netcom.com.

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Mitch:

> I would have to give this thing a big "two thumbs up"!

I'm glad to hear, after the report on the list yesterday that left
me thoroughly confused...

Anticipating the arrival of mine next week, I'll go ahead and
download the IRDA drivers.  I've never used my IR interface much,
I played with the demo remote control once on my 95, and used
FILER in IR mode to transfer all my files from one palmtop to
another.  Beyond that, zippo.

> I would think that the Shier Systems cable for the PN60 would work just
> fine.  All you have to do to get the serial interface up is to turn off
> the IrDA interface. This then allows you to set baud rate and handshaking.

I'm glad to hear.  I personally haven't contacted them about one
yet, but the report yesterday from list member Chris Holloway was
that Shier Systems' cable reportedly wouldn't work with the 60i.
Can you or anyone else explain this apparent discrepancy?

-Chris

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> Aaaz kin only relate to what aahhh seen, and here's maaa sad, but TRUE,
> tail:
>
> So, Pete, how may people have you successfully pried a 200 away from?  I've
> got a hunch you won't do it via e-mail to this list.
>
> Kind regards to the tremendous crowd here,
>
> Martin
>

Bummer about your other 200 and stuff, glad to see you found a
replacement. I think it is great that the people on this list
appreciate the LX line, it was an impressive machine. Personally it
is just part of my collection and I seldom ever use it. I don't plan
on getting rid of it and I certainly don't need to pry one away from
anyone but it is just a novelity to me, along with alot of other
machines I have.

Pete


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Subject:      Re: Wince...

> Hi Peter :-)
>
> The comment made really was meant to underline just how good and stable
> DOS (in spite of it's limitations) was and still is for many users.
>
> I have not seen Quake 2 but based upon what I saw of Quake (Original) it
> ought to be good. We are now getting into running operating systems that
> demand a much higher level of hardware than ever before. Other games
> that have been created for Win95 based upon DirectX are all rather poor
> in my experience. Do Quake and Quake 2 use DirectX ? and do they run
> from the C:\ command line or from within the Graphical Windows 95 Shell?
>
>
> Cheers
> Ross
> --
> Ross Lewis
>

Quake II can use DirectX, which with version 5 is finally starting to
work right, or with Glide, which is how I use it since I have a 3d
card (Voodoo 2). I run it from the GUI but someone pointed out that
it runs from plain dos, I will have to try that and see.

Pete


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> I have to support what Peter has said.  I just ran across a person in one
> of our offices that uses an HP200LX.  They know of at least 4 other people
> that "won" HP200LX's in a promotion and probably never use them.  They are
> sitting in a box in a closet.  Brand new, pristine units that were used
> once or twice.  While this is certainly an exception (that they didn't buy
> them out of need), I think it may typify the causual handheld user.
>
> Makes you cringe......doesn't it?
> Jim J.
>

In another post Al had the right idea. If there was some way we could
get the message out that these LX systems ( and lost of other older
systems) still have value to some people there would be a boom in
availability of used systems. I collect old orphaned computers and in
many cases it is very hard to find systems or accessories that were
originally sold by the hundreds of thousands but have apparently
vanished in the interim. I know that they are in closets or attics or
garages gathering dust but how do you find them. I have seen thing
sell for pennies on the dollar at garage sales and flea markets
because the owner assumed that no one would want an older system. Oh
well, the joys of collecting misunderstood computers.

Pete



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> download the IRDA drivers.  I've never used my IR interface much,

Only one watchout that probably won't effect more than just a few users:

If you use a TransDigital card, it automatically installs C:\DAT\TPC.TSR. This
is some kind of SysMan TSR for parallel port access and it keeps the IrDA
printer drivers from working. To fix, just delete and reboot. A new TPC.TSR
will get created the next time you stick in the TransDigital card and reboot.

> Can you or anyone else explain this apparent discrepancy?

I think Shier is wrong on this one. The only way it won't work is if they
completely changed the connector from PN60 to PN60i (not likely). It is just a
standard serial interface with one exception: it has to be turned on; it is off
by default.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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> I have to support what Peter has said.  I just ran across a
person in one
> of our offices that uses an HP200LX.  They know of at least 4
other people
> that "won" HP200LX's in a promotion and probably never use
them.  They are
> sitting in a box in a closet.  Brand new, pristine units that
were used
> once or twice.  While this is certainly an exception (that
they didn't buy
> them out of need), I think it may typify the causual handheld
user.
>
> Makes you cringe......doesn't it?
> Jim J.
>

Why don't you get the names of those people and see if they
want to sell them. They'd probably sell them really cheap.

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Recd a letter from American Mobile,  which has bought ARDIS, telling me
to call them before July 15th to find out my options or my Radiomail
service would be cut off. Called and they faxed me the info for a HP
200lx + Motorola PM100D user...  The faxed info starts off:
"HP stopped producing the HP 95, HP 100LX and HP 200LXL (sic) over the
last few years. Unfortunately, we don't have a way to upgrade the HP
Palmtops to use the IKON gateway" , and gives me two options. Call and
they have a limited number of new NEC WinCE 1.0 devices on a first come
first serve basis and "we will give you one of these devices free of
charge for each HP PalmTop that is active on the ARDIS network today"
Second option for when they run out of free devices is a plan that
provides $$ off the purchase of a WinCE device...   Blah, blah....
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David:

400,000 is an incorrect number by magnitudes. No, I won't say
what I think and/or know <G>...

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> Like educalc? Times2 Tech and Thaddeus survive because of really low
> overhead.

You are incredibly and stunningly uninformed. really...

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> Like educalc? Times2 Tech and Thaddeus survive because of really low
> overhead. I can still get brand new software, just developed, for
> lots of old systems, doesn't mean that there is much market just that
> anything that the "company" sells is almost pure profit so they might
> as well sell what they can.

Peter, you are incredibly uninformed, stunningly so :) ....
Really. <VBG>

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Hi,

> I just sent my info in to register www/lx, and I was wondering how long =
it
> takes to get registered?

It takes up to 24 hours. Yours took about 21 hours. It was
received after we stopped working last night. We had other
work to do today, and then we got to registrations, registered
you and sent info back. C'mon man! 21 hours! Give me a break...
Slavedriver! <VBG>

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Bob:

> The 200lx is alive and well in Japan with tens of thousands of users,
> prominent coverage in computer magazines (regular columns dedicated to =
the
> 200lx in at least two magazines) and I regularly see users using their
> 200lxs, 100lxs on the trains in Tokyo. Also, although the peak of 200lx
> boom has passed here, it's still available in many stores in Tokyo.

Bingo! Motherlode Japan.

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Rudy:

> Um, nope.  Not blind - just looking for something that displays the
> text readably and is small.  "hv" exactly fits the bill.  Though a
> reader would be a great thing while driving, I have a hard time
> believing that it would run on a 200lx.  :)

Sorry, I am not sure what you are saying. HV runs excellent on
the palmtop. But what you wrote is not clear, so I am not sure
if that is what you said...

> Sometimes it's amusing how long some of the simpler threads persist
> on this list.  :)

You should have chimed in early on and said it fits what you
need. You also had a bit of a requirement, that it be
text-based, and that caused a bit of a cinfusion, since it was
not clear what you exactly wanted. .

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Peter:

> Ok you are entitled you your opinion (aren't I generous ;-) ) but I

Yes, you are a wonderful, generous, sweet person! :-)

> do think one thing needs to be straightened out. There are far from
> "hundreds of thousands" of people out there using a 200lx. I would be
> EXTREMELY suprised if there were still thousands, let alone a hunderd
> thousand. Lets get realistic now, total sales figures for the 200lx
> don't have anything to do with actual use, do you think that everyone

I'll concede that sales figures are at most some
indicator, but are not the total number of actual _users_.

I'll not concede with your reality, that is sliding into an
opinion, while being cute about it and calling it "realistic".
It seems to me that those who use the 200LX use it for a long
long time. I hear huge numbers of "re-converts" (those who
went for a WinCE, then found that it did not fit their needs
and are back to using the 200LX). So, I am only saying there
is not way to really accurately tell how many actual users
there are, only sort of estimate them.

The exact same is true for WinCE machines. Many people buy
them and don't use them. Many people give them to someone else
who does not use them (you know like the Xmas season
fruitcake, no disrespect to WinCE intended here!) And so on.
The sales figures are nice and fat, but they do not include
returns, and they do not come even near the estimates of
marketing people, while with the 200LX the numbers exceeded
the estimates wildly.

So I would concede that at best you can't quite tell. Software
sales figures are not an indication, since we DEFINITELY do
not reach all those who bought a palmtop, and Palmtop paper
subscriptions are also not a full indicator, since there are
many of both camps, and many who don't use, and many many who
do not subscribe, either do not want to, or have not been
reached.

Anyway, I modigy what I said to this: "There are many users,
certainly less than the total number of sales."

> that ever bought a pet rock or hula hoop is still using it? I agree
> that it is quite an impressive machine and for some people it is the
> perfect system for portable use but I would be willing to bet that of
> the original sales numbers less than 5% are still in active use, if
> that many.

How do you come up with this number? If you are correct than I
think I am right and want to take my modifird statement back!
:-) I bet you have no idea how many were sold. I would also
bet, but not submit it to proof, that the numbers I know are
by far much much better than yours! <G>...

Best regards,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> But, Avi, he says that he gets the userid/password prompt when he =
telnets
> to his site - to get that, he would *have* to have a valid PPP connectio=
n
> to the telnet server.

You are right, I did not read carefully. Sorry.

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Rashid:

7> Instead of spending time in front of something that look like the olde =
idiot
> box, I would rather be lazing by the waterfront with my 200LX and doing =
the
> things most people would have to do on a desktop.
>
> That's quality of life.

Ah, the good life! Some people are sooooo decadent! <G>...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:53:20 -0400
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Hello

Here's one for you. The mail I send out with LXTCP is
disappearing. It goes through the process of sending it
just fine. I can send a message to my own email address
with no problems. But so far there's been a least two
messages that I sent out, that I know of, that just
disappeared. Both to the mailing list.One about 5 days ago
and one a few hours ago. I haven't gotten a
returned mail, or difficultly in delivering notice. As far
as I know the email addresses were correct. Is there any
way to trace email to find out what happens to it?

John

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JIMMY

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SELL ME ONE OF YOUR FOUR PRISTINE LXs?

yor pal al...............

I have to support what Peter has said.  I just ran across a person in one
of our offices that uses an HP200LX.  They know of at least 4 other
people that "won" HP200LX's in a promotion and probably never use them.
They are sitting in a box in a closet.  Brand new, pristine units that
were used once or twice.  While this is certainly an exception (that they
didn't buy them out of need), I think it may typify the causual handheld
user.

Makes you cringe......doesn't it?
Jim J.


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> > Um, nope.  Not blind - just looking for something that displays the
> > text readably and is small.  "hv" exactly fits the bill.  Though a
> > reader would be a great thing while driving, I have a hard time
> > believing that it would run on a 200lx.  :)
>
> Sorry, I am not sure what you are saying. HV runs excellent on
> the palmtop. But what you wrote is not clear, so I am not sure
> if that is what you said...
>
> > Sometimes it's amusing how long some of the simpler threads persist
> > on this list.  :)
>
> You should have chimed in early on and said it fits what you
> need. You also had a bit of a requirement, that it be
> text-based, and that caused a bit of a cinfusion, since it was
> not clear what you exactly wanted. .
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

Sorry about that.  My message was a response to yours: a voice
synthesized html reader would be a great thing while driving.  I'm
a pretty avid books-on-tape listener already.

And my persistence comment was more on the mailing list than anything.
I really think the list should be a newsgroup.  As it is, I treat it
as such - I receive the digest.  But even so, there are some days
that I get three of the digests.  My mail reader doesn't allow me to
treat it as threaded articles and there's no continuity from digest
to digest.  Being a newsgroup would fix these problems (though at a
cost: the possibility for spam is opened up).

I think it's great that we have such an active and helpful 200lx
community.  The quantity is fine, it just makes for a cluttered
mailbox.

Rudy

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>
> BTW, can anyone recommend a decent utility that'll search ZIP archives
for
> a text string? I've tried ZGREP, but it doesn't have an option to display
> the context or line in which the string was found.
>
> - Longden

You are gonna get tired of me touting XTree Gold, but you can search for
text
using F9 but you have to log the zip for viewing first. (Alt + F5) The
search list
stays current in the sesssion and is written to the history list which is
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I am curious why you won't say what numbers that you believe are accurate
(with regard to the number of worldwide users of HP palmtops)?  Is this a
competitive secret?
Jim J.





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David:

400,000 is an incorrect number by magnitudes. No, I won't say
what I think and/or know <G>...

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> From: Darren Frick <DFrick@mail.snip.net>
> To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Dan <driden@STLNET.COM>
> Subject: Re: WWW/LX Question
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 11:39 PM
>
> I tried running wwwlx under palrun on a 386 laptop with a built in 2400
> baud modem and it did the same thing. Nettamer worked well, though, and
> of course it ran straight (not under palrun). I suppose it could be the
> baud rate. You don't want to browse at 2400 anyway (right?, I mean, you
> are sane?) I found that nettamer was perfectly good for e-mail and news,
> though not as "pretty".

Actually I want to use WWW/LX for the ppp connection so I can telnet, using
HV is just
a novelty. My local ISP doesnt provide shell account dialups, but I have a
telnet account
on a out-of-town site.  So I basically want to dialup PPP to my local ISP,
then telnet to
my remote ISP and use LYNX for the Web and Pine for my E-mail.

Also with WWW/lx's reduced size (versus NetTamer) its possible to configure
it to run from my C: drive on my 1mb 100lx so I could use a 14.4 modem for
browsing on occasion. I only use the 2400b
because its part of the 4mb flash card I have. <g>

Currently my 14.4 modem is in my NEC 400 WinCE machine gathering dust. <g>

Dan
>
> Darren

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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:22:23 -0400, Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU=
> wrote:

yn> In Japan, Citizen is selling a similar printer
yn> named PN60Ir and many people are using it
yn> with their 200LXs. I don't know if it is same
yn> as the PN60i thought.
yn>
yn> Good luck!
yn> Yujin


Yujin,

Are the Japanese users printing via the HP200LX IR or using a direct
serial cable?

 Chris Holloway  Using an HP200LX-32meg

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rc>
rc> I'm glad to hear.  I personally haven't contacted them about one
rc> yet, but the report yesterday from list member Chris Holloway was
rc> that Shier Systems' cable reportedly wouldn't work with the 60i.
rc> Can you or anyone else explain this apparent discrepancy?
rc>

Chris,

I left David Shier an email asking him if the lady in his office was
incorrect about the direct cable for the PN60i/HP200LX.  He will return
to the office Monday and should answer then.

I wonder why he doesn't carry his 200LX with him like the rest of us
do <g>?

Chris Holloway

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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:35:10 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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>Yujin,
>
>Are the Japanese users printing via the HP200LX IR or using a direct
>serial cable?

 They are using the Ir port in a book named 'HP 200LX HARDWARE BIBLE'.

Regards,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Well..

for $ 89 I would expect to have it process instantly !!!



> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of A.
> Meshar
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 5:36 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: www lx
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > I just sent my info in to register www/lx, and I was wondering
> how long it
> > takes to get registered?
>
> It takes up to 24 hours. Yours took about 21 hours. It was
> received after we stopped working last night. We had other
> work to do today, and then we got to registrations, registered
> you and sent info back. C'mon man! 21 hours! Give me a break...
> Slavedriver! <VBG>
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Finally, I'm happy to announce that version 2 of the Goin' Postal
mailer is released.  The web page to download it is:

  http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:07:12 +0010
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hi everyone

My girlfiend is oversea for one week,
in San Francisco and New Orlean.
I ask her to do some shopping for me :)
Is someone can tell me where she can go
and is there any shopp with a web site?

regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Dear friends:
I'd like to know if someone could help me, explaining how can I print
the 850 Multilingual accented characters from the HP applications
(Memo, etc) to a deskjet or laserjet. Everything it's OK on the
screen, but when printed, strange characters appear in the place of
the accented.
TIA,
Nelson


--
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Subject:      Re: Zip...

   >> BTW, can anyone recommend a decent utility that'll search ZIP
   >> archives for a text string? I've tried ZGREP, but it doesn't
   >> have an option to display the context or line in which the
   >> string was found.
Message-Id: <19980620021015.EUGC24888@Ý12.64.37.226¨>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:10:15 +0000

   >You are gonna get tired of me touting XTree Gold, but you can
   >search for text using F9 but you have to log the zip for viewing
   >first. (Alt + F5) The search list stays current in the sesssion and is
   >written to the history list which is editable.

I want to do the search on several zip files in one pass, using a single
command. Xtree Gold requires manual opening of each zip (alt-f5) in
order to search, and even then it appears each unzipped file must be
individually searched.

- Longden

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Peter W wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:24:37 -0500 (CDT), barrym wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Peter W wrote:
>
> >> Mitch nor I have CIS access, could someone d/l this and email to us? I
> >> assume we'll put it on SUPER if the distribution license allows that.
> >
> >Compuserve's collection license specifially prohibits doing this, I
> >believe.  I've heard they take that pretty seriously too.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if that was the general rule, but this code is
> explicitly described as "public domain" which means noone can assert
> ownership/copyright privileges over it, AFAIK.

I'm not a lawyer but I've seen this discussed a number of times on CIS
forums and the way it's usually expressed is that they have a copyright
on their 'collection'.  You can distribute that software as long as you
dont get it from CIS.  This is supposed to be similar to the collection
copyrights on cd's of Guttenberg texts.  It's distributable but not from
the cd.

Anyway, thats what I've been told.  If you want to make the argument that
our copyright laws have gotten silly, I won't disagree. :)

Barry

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Hi Mitch,

I have had a PN60 for a couple of years now.

> I would have to give this thing a big "two thumbs up"!

Wait until you get to the cost of consumables. The ribbons are more
expensive than I would like especially for colour. However it can not
be too bad as I do still have my printer. I would recommend getting the
rechargeable battery if you do not have it - no point in being
portable if you need AC to print.

> I would think that the Shier Systems cable for the PN60 would work just =
fine.

I would be surprised if it did not. I noticed that Chris Lott is also a
resident of Huntsville and sent him private email. He could test my
Shier cable with his PN60i before trying to get one from Dave.

GaryS

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 BriTrenth@aol.com wrote:

> I have set up Pygmy100 Forth and it seems ok, although so far from any
> standard that none of my old code will work.  The problem besides that is it
> has no specific programs for accessing the IR port or the serial port etc...
> Does you modified Mini-forth have such hardware specifics?  thanx

Nothing for the serial port.  I've never used the serial port on the
palmtop except to make backups.  I don't have a modem so it's not something
I've considered.  The same for the IR port.

I've included support for the built in graphics and, I think, for the
volume control and contrast.  I don't really remember which features
I added but there were quite a lot.  I also added words to ease the use
of the proprietary HP interrupts so if you wanted to add support for
other things it should fit right in.

If you do decide to do that and if you want to include it with the
package, let me know.  I've contacted the webmaster at the supersite
to find out how to upload there.

Barry

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Send me a private email if you like and I'll send it to you,
uuencoded.

Barry

barrym@neosoft.com


On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Brian Dnovan wrote:

> I would be interested in that modified Mini Forth.
>
> Thanx
>
> Brian
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> Thanks for the several suggestions about how to stash my PC card, but I am
> looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
> carry the cards in my pocket or stick into my briefcase (which I carry
> only when travelling because my LX holster obviates the need to cary a
> separate case for my LX).

I saw a PC card holder the other day.  I can't remember if it was Computer
City or CompUsa or maybe Best Buy or Office Max.  Ive been doing a lot of
technical shopping lately so i cant be sure.

But it does exist.  I think it holds 6 cards and is made of plastic, but
again, I'm not sure.  I glanced at it but I don't have a use for it so
I didn't pay that much attention.

I did notice that it looked pretty nice.  I don't think I saw the price.

Barry

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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, m. c. Beutler wrote:

> Many times I've seen this about 19.2 being the HP200's upper limit for
> data throughput, but have yet to see a "why", just that it won't work
> properly.  I understand that when using the Com1 serial port, the built
> in UART is no great shakes and is the limiting factor here.  What I
> still fail to understand is what limits the data rate when using a fast
> PCMCIA modem, since it has its own UART internal to the modem.Ýusually
> a 16550, aren't they?¨  If there is some other limitation inside the
> HP200, why doesn't it cause problems when Mitch, Dave, and Neil are
> using their Ethernet cards?  From what I have read, the throughput
> between the HP and the other machine seems to be MUCH faster than the
> serial link method when using the Acton Ethernet card.  At least, I
> hope so, since I have ordered one.  Any illumination on this subject
> would be appreciated.

The problem occurs during terminal emulation for the most part.  That
takes up a lot of cpu time and the cpu isnt fast enough to keep up with
the serial port and the screen updates and watch the keyboard and
do any translation at the same time.

This usually isnt a problem when you're just transferring files.  Using
a terminal program to connect with a 4.77 mhz IBM XT years ago we were
pretty much limited to 4800 baud.  9600 was doable but not good.  But
when we were transferring files from one computer to another it could
do that at 115,200 for hours with no problem.

Barry

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> I have 3 flash cards: a 20MB Sandisk, a 15MB SimpleTech CF w/adapter
> and a 4MB Kodak CF. All three will work in my 200LX and in my desktop
> with its SCM Swapbox. Only the 20MB Sandisk will work in any of the 3
> Win95 laptops I have tried: IBM ThinkPad, Dell Latitude, Compaq. The
> CF cards are not recognized (actually, they are totally ignored) by
> the laptops. Has anyone else noticed this kind of behavior?

I have a 10 meg Sandisk and a 15 and 20 meg Sandisk Compact flash.  The
10 meg is a full size card.

All of them work well in my Thinkpad and in my Compaq LTE Elite and
they all worked fine in the Dell I had for a short time (until I found
out it was stolen).

Barry

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, xavier caballe wrote:

> >It=B4s not a obligation use just english in this list.
> >The HPLX is so much palmtop to use in english only.
> >:-)
>
> Obviously, it wasn't my goal to offend nobody sending my last message in
> Spanish. In fact, I though that just reading the subject, all the
> English-speaking people will be so smart to understand that it was just an
> announcement addressed to the Spanish-speaking palmtop community.
>
> Well, it seems that some people is not so smart, so please accept my
> apologies if that message was so difficult for your limited-size brain.

Speaking just for myself, while I only speak a little Spanish and can't
understand most of the stuff on here in Spanish, I have no objection to
it whatsoever.  I'm sure there are non-English speakers that can benefit
from some of what goes on here and if someone is willing to speak to them,
well and good.

On the other hand, I also have no objection whatever to those who choose
to contribute in English and don't write it fluently.  I hope we treat
those people as well as I'm treated in Mexico with my weak Spanish.

Barry

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Hi, Alain:
>
I'm in Los Angeles and may be able to be of assistance. We can ship most
peripherals (memory, modems, etc.) to San Francisco by 10AM next day. VISA,
MC, AMEX ok.
>
Local contact number is 562.433.3987.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems Ltd.
www.shoresystems.net

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Subject:        San Francisco

hi everyone

My girlfiend is oversea for one week,
in San Francisco and New Orlean.
I ask her to do some shopping for me :)
Is someone can tell me where she can go
and is there any shopp with a web site?

regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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> That's quality of life.
The hp200lx - a life-style choice.

You like to work next to a waterfall in the lazy afternoon sun?

Inspiration strikes at traffic lights?

The espresso of a particular cafe always seems to rearrange your
ideas, so the meaning you knew was there is suddenly revealed?


You can't carry all the tools of a writer, programmer or mathematician
around with you without it being a burden.  Unless you have a hp200lx.

So small you'll have to pat your pocket to make sure it's still
there, so efficient the battery lasts for weeks, so reliable
it never crashes; and so tough it laughs at street falls.


The hp200lx - the power to be who you are.

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>
> 400,000 is an incorrect number by magnitudes.
SO, it's either greater than 9,999,999, or less than 9,999....

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At 01:59 PM 6/20/98 +1000, you wrote:
>The hp200lx - a life-style choice.
><snip>
>The hp200lx - the power to be who you are.

Wow.  Have you considered starting an ad campaign?


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   >The hp200lx - a life-style choice.
   >You like to work next to a waterfall in the lazy afternoon sun?
   >Inspiration strikes at traffic lights?
   >The espresso of a particular cafe always seems to rearrange your
   >ideas, so the meaning you knew was there is suddenly revealed?
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   >You can't carry all the tools of a writer, programmer or
   >mathematician around with you without it being a burden.  Unless
   >you have a hp200lx.

   >So small you'll have to pat your pocket to make sure it's still
   >there, so efficient the battery lasts for weeks, so reliable
   >it never crashes; and so tough it laughs at street falls.

   >The hp200lx - the power to be who you are.

Brendan,

You should consider a career in advertising.

I liked the last line, it lets me prolong my childhood.

- Longden

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>    >The hp200lx - the power to be who you are.
>
> You should consider a career in advertising.
Thanks Longden, I think I might like that.
>
> I liked the last line, it lets me prolong my childhood.
<BG> That's about the size of it!


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>EXTREMELY suprised if there were still thousands, let alone a hunderd
>thousand. Lets get realistic now, total sales figures for the 200lx
>don't have anything to do with actual use, do you think that everyone
>that ever bought a pet rock or hula hoop is still using it? I agree
>that it is quite an impressive machine and for some people it is the
>perfect system for portable use but I would be willing to bet that of
>the original sales numbers less than 5% are still in active use, if
>that many.

I am usually a lurker, not a fighter, but I really cannot let this one pass!
You are absolutely correct in that total sales figures do not have anything to
do with actual use ... but that's really the *WINCE* machines!

I have a 620LX in my drawer in the office, and an Omnigo 100 at home somewhere
in storage. My PalmPilot (a good machine, really) has thankfully found a new
master in my wife. I carry my 200lx EVERYWHERE! I have a slightly broken down
200lx in reserve and keep fighting the temptation to buy a brand-new one for
security.

Why don't I use the 620LX? It's lovely to look at, yes, but so many things I
take for granted on the 200lx, I CANNOT do at ALL on the WINCE! Just *one*
example: I follow the UK Premier League (never mind, MUFC, we'll be back next
season) and chart every result through the season ... and in the off season
now, I track the World Cup. Just show me how to GRAPH in Pocket Excel !  Black
and white it may be, but the charts are beautiful in 123!

<rant mode off, takes deep breath, in a more modulated voice> Friend Peter, you
are absolute correct, sales figures for machines do not reveal use figures ....
but I think that if truth be told, as a percentage, more 200lx's are being used
than Wince's. Here in the erstwhile home of the HP Palmtop, there is an open
secret ... more HP *employees*  use the 200lx than the Wince's. Tell you
sumthin', don't it ...

jy
singapore

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Date: Saturday, 20 June 1998 1:55
Subject: printing serial>parallel


On Sun, 14 Jun 1998 Alex Baker <abaker@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> wrote:

>Thankyou to all who helped me print to my Canon BJ200.
>I am now printing direct through my P.C. to the printer
>using the connectivity pack and a DOS program called
>Omniprint, Al Kind emailed me the other day. Thanks Al!
>I thoroughly recommend this small and useful program.
>No extra cable, no extra serial printers, not even a
>(dare I say it:) Machintosh is needed! Perhaps the guys at
>S.U.P.E.R. could put it on the list.

That's great!

Unfortunately, when I retrieved Omniprint it from S.U.P.E.R.
and tried it with my BJ230 (the 200's wide-carriage brother),
all I got was flashing lights and form feeds.

Perhaps you could provide a few more details on how
you did it.

Or perhaps just show me where I went wrong. I:

- Connected 200LX by HP serial cable to COM1 on desktop.
- Set HP printer to Com1, 9600, IBM Proprinter.
(My BJ200 is always set up as a Proprinter.)
- On the desktop, issued command omniprn 1,9600.
- On the HP, attempted to print from Memo, and from DOS.

It all seems as though it's going to work, but then just
fizzles as described.

Any ideas?

...1/..make sure the Canon's DIP switch 12 setting is off (eg in
BJ-10...draft mode)
...2/.. read the readme file, I found when setting it up it was best to
print to the
screen first using he "con" parameter eg omniprn 1,9600 con. Once you can do
this,
I found it was best to print to a file eg omniprn 1,9600 con>omnigo.out,
then print that file
eg copy/b omnigo.out prn.

See how this goes....It worked for me!


Alex

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http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&kl=XX&q=%2B%22ACT%21%22+%2B200lx&search=Search

http://www.pdadirect.com/pda26001.htm

Eckart

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Ooooo, that's slick.

It was the second bit I didn't try:

>I found it was best to print to a file eg omniprn 1,9600 con>omnigo.out,=

>then print that file eg copy/b omnigo.out prn.

It works without the /b, and with lpt1, as well.

Thanks Alex!

To reiterate, for anyone who needs it, the procedure to print with
Omniprint and the standard HP serial cable is:

- Connect 200LX by HP serial cable to COM1 on desktop.
- Set HP200LX printer to Com1, 9600, <your printer>
- On the desktop, issue command omniprn 1,9600 con > filename.out
- On the HP, print the document.
- On the desktop, issue command copy /b filename.out prn:
 (or, copy filename.out lpt1:)

where:

- your printer is the proper selection for your printer
- COM1 on the desktop is replaced by whatever COM port you use
- filename.out is any legal filename

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Is someone have a 24 or 32 Mg card for sale.
I prefere a CF.
please send
brand ref price location
regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 03:28:30 -0400
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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 Alex Baker <abaker@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>See how this goes....It worked for me!

Since my first (thrilled) message, I've done a bit more
experimenting.

Did you get it to work in DOS, or just with the HP's
built-in applications?

S.Todd

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Longden - A number of years ago I bought a ShareWare program that would
search zip files like you are looking for.  As I recall it would search a
both zipped and unzipped files at the same time.  Also as I recall you had
to catalog the files first and it built an index that it used for the
search.  The files had to be on diskettes (I had several hundred).  If
you're interested let me know and I'll try to find more info about it.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_

.....................................................

Date:    Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:09:36 -0400
From:    Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Zip...

   >> BTW, can anyone recommend a decent utility that'll search ZIP
   >> archives for a text string? I've tried ZGREP, but it doesn't
   >> have an option to display the context or line in which the
   >> string was found.
Message-Id: <19980620021015.EUGC24888@Ý12.64.37.226¨>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:10:15 +0000

   >You are gonna get tired of me touting XTree Gold, but you can
   >search for text using F9 but you have to log the zip for viewing
   >first. (Alt + F5) The search list stays current in the sesssion and is
   >written to the history list which is editable.

I want to do the search on several zip files in one pass, using a single
command. Xtree Gold requires manual opening of each zip (alt-f5) in
order to search, and even then it appears each unzipped file must be
individually searched.

- Longden
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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:15:54 +0200
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**

Third trial to send this message, which I think, was not sent or received!

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Dear Avi,

as always, thank You for Your good support, Your quick answers. This
makes the real value beside a good product!-

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The following  part of message relates to Your previous answer, I got a =
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ount, which was not registered by the list...
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> > 1. Would You recommend any Directory-Structure in WWW/LX and how
> > would...
>
> I use one single directory for everything except the archive
> folders, which I put on A:. The rest is in C: drive...

Yes, You're right, important is a good structured program. I moved all
to c:\www and changed the configs...

> > 2. I've set filters in the Newsgroups-Setup for
> > comp.sys.palmtops (for  example excluding Casio, Psion, etc.

> Newsgroups uses the Subject line to filter items. If I write
> in the subject "200LX stinks" you'll get it even if the rest
> of the post talks about how great 620LX is. Is this how you
> expected this to work?

But this is, what I'm  wondering about, most of the messages do have the
excluded terms in the subject-line, casio or libretto etc! If they
would have HP as subject and would talk about Win CE <g>, I could bear
that, this happens not so often. But I still get all the stuff, which is =
quite annoying!

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Now the new stuff...


> > ...the more I use WWW/LX, the more I like it! <g>...

> Sounds like an addiction! <g>

*** Yes it is, I've become a real victim!!! <g>

> > I tried to use the HP220LX built-in Editor Memo instead of

> I want one of those HP 220LX!!!

*** Me too! <g> - What I forgot to say, I really like PE, it was just to =
try!

> > PalEdit. I followed the Setup-hint of Martin Kellinghaus
> > (www-faq) to change the scan code for german machines, but I
> > don't get Memo when I compose or edit a message. And when I
> > don't assign PE as external editor, I end up in the dos
> > command-line.

> If you try to access MEMO after closing System Manager it will
> not work. Closing System Manager also closes MeMO.

That did the trick, thanks!

1) Is it objected or possible, to password-protect www/lx, to prevent =
logging-in (without having password-protected the HP, which is, as we =
know, not so safe)? Maybe it's a silly question, maybe I've overseen =
something...)

2) Is it possible to start www/lx with the option to change from, say, =
Post/LX to HV without www/lx automatically disconnecting? Disconnecting =
and reconnecting means always losing payed online-time in Germany, =
because they charge local calls not per second, they charge in time-blocks=
.....

Thanks & cheers,

Axel

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* Axel KLAG * aklag@t-online.de * http://kleist.dwelle.de * HP200LX & =
Post/LX*
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* Axel KLAG *  aklag@t-online.de * http://kleist.dwelle.de * HP200LX & =
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> Not only that but I can use it while I'm in the can. I never have to be=

> so obvious as to carry a newspaper in. I take my trusty LX and read
> E-mail or be downright productive. It's where I do some of my best
> thinkin' ;-).

Me too. However why not bring a newspaper?

I get the free-of-charge InfoBeat (www.infobeat.com) news-"paper" (or is
a such one called an "e-paper"?) every day. I have given up paper-papers
long ago.

They deliver in various formats (HTML, ASCII-TEXT).

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I do not know how superior the 200Lx or Dos is.  However, I can tell you
that the last thing I want to do when I am driving in my car trying to pull
a phone number off my Palmtop is try and click a button with a pen.  This
assumes that I haven't dropped the pen in the seat or left it on my desk at
my office. Punching the buttons on the keyboard is a heck of a lot easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Wince...


>Peniel;
>Thank you!  My thoughts precisely!  It seems that people have been
>"programmed" to think that DOS is hard to use or whatever.  Well, clicking
>a mouse is certainly easier than typing a command, but it would seem that
>the direct approach is the most efficient -- at least as far as disk space
>and memory are concerned.  I have used way too many Windows programs that
>required way too many mouse-clicks to do something that could be simply
>done in DOS with a few keystrokes.
>
>I believe that the simple truth is that people are lazy and don't want to
>take the time and expend the effort to learn how to use a computer.  In the
>computer lab where I work at the local college, people are constantly
>asking the same questions over and over, but if they would just do some
>reading and thinking, then they would answer their own questions and I
>could concentrate on the less trivial things.
>
>However, these ravings about one system being better that the other are the
>same kind of things that Mac, Unix, Amiga, etc. users have gone on about
>for years.  The fact is (IMHO) that some systems are better for some
>people/kinds of people/some kinds of jobs than other systems.  It seems
>that the Mac is best for desktop publishing, Amiga is best for graphics,
>etc.
>
>But, for my use, I'll go with my 200LX and my Win95 laptop and desktop
>systems.  The HP 200LX is perfect for those, like us, of superior
>intelligence!  ;-)
>
>- Richard Smith
>
>
>Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
>> Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>> Hi folks-
>>
>> <RANT>
>> Being an opinionated so-and-so I might as well chime in with my $.02
>> worth about wince.  Avi hit the nail on the head when he pointed out
>> that the wince machines (no matter how good they may be) are PC
>> COMPANIONS - NOT palmtop PCs like the 200LX.  For several years, my
>> 100LX and now an 8Mb 2x speed 200LX IS my PC.
>>
>> As for "modern" OSs, none comes close to passing the KISS (Keep It
>> Simple, Stupid!) test.  DOS does.
>>
>> If the 200LX disappears, and I'm faced with the need to buy a machine
>> thats too big for a pocket, and has short battery life, I'll go for the
>> Libretto.  AFAIK it doesn't need a "companion".
>> </RANT>
>>
>> -PR
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What is Quakell?

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Wince...


>I don't want to get into this, but I do want to mention that QuakeII runs
>perfectly well under DOS. I haven't tried my copy of Unreal yet.
>
>I will say there's no way either will run on the 200lx.
>
>--Patrick McGouirk
>Computer Systems Administrator
>13WMAZ
>rivrwolf@hom.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter W. Borders <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:54 PM
>Subject: Re: Wince...
>
>
>>Afraid the one on games is not true. The most graphic intensive games
>>currently out there are now running exclusively under win95 or winnt.
>>That is the ONLY reason I still have win95 on my hard drive, to run
>>Quake II and next Unreal.
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>
>>Peter W. Borders
>>
>>Network Support Technician
>>Tidewater Community College
>>tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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I will second that offer.  If anyone has another copy I would like to buy it
as well.

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Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 8:33 AM
Subject: ACT!


** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Guys

Does anyone out there have a copy of ACT! for the palmtop that they would
like to sell me?

Symantec don't mention it on their website so is there anywhere else I can
get it?

Thanks in advance

Phil


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   I have the exp thinfax combination modem and flashcard, which I think =
was specifically designed withe the 200lx in mind.  I do not understand =
how you guys get the battery life to surf the web.  Anytime I use the =
modem to send a fax it drains my batteries.  What batteries are you =
using?  Alternatively, should I be using a different modem?

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Mr. Meshar wrote:

 > David:
 >
 > 400,000 is an incorrect number by magnitudes. No, I won't say
 > what I think and/or know <G>...

"Ithsa sthecret, davey.  Nah-nanny-booboo."

Ahem! Now, now.  We don't keep secrets from each other on the list.

We pray thee, tell us thy secret, oh masterful one.  ...  Well, never mind.
 We could do without the reams of infodumping.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 09:32:32 -0400
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Does anyone know the "real" power input requirements on the 200LX so
that I can homebrew an ac adapter?

tia
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:13:47 -0400
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Go to the follow page for information on how to download a free copy of ACT!
for the HP:

http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/200lxinfo.htm

Michael Stocker
e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
home page: http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: ACT!
Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 8:29 AM

** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Guys

Does anyone out there have a copy of ACT! for the palmtop that they would like
to sell me?

Symantec don't mention it on their website so is there anywhere else I can get
it?

Thanks in advance

Phil


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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:25:22 +0200
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It seams that people have problem with the smart (apex) combo card.

As i have said it is most likely that it is a operation amplifier in
tha modem part of the card that has blown. Like others I had a fully
functional card that sudenly one day stoped to work. Everything worked,
At commands, memmory etc. I kept getting NO DIALTONE when i tried to
use the modem.
I looked it up and the card actualy lifted the hook but the dial tone
did not get through. There was something blocking the signal.
It turned out to be a operation amplifier named 117p something. I found
it in a "elfa" catalog for $20.

The case is not that hard to remove, but the op-amp is.
If You dont have the right things to remove it with I suggest this:
Use 3 persons and two soldering irons for the job. 2 persons heat one
side each (4 legs, 8 all in all) simmultaneously. When its loos the,
third person remove it with a tweeser - but only when the solder is
melted and it is loose from all 8 legs.
Getting the new op-amp in place is not that hard. Just put some
(little) solder on the pads on the card, make sure that the new ic is
alligned and carefully solder in place.

DONE!

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Hi al,
A though of a gigantic job, but a labor of love.  Would it not be
worth it to catalog all the info, problems, ideas,and solutions
that come across this board, then index it so that any newby
or old timer that needs info can grab at all available without
asking for bits and pieces?  Hugh job, yes but not insurmout-
able with a little yankee can-do.

You would need to do only as little or as much as you want if you
can get volunteers to take all incoming and organize and edit the
raw incoming data into readable useful output. Then like Mitch's
net, one can go through the filing cabinet and look see.  we would't
have to wade through ton's of mail to find the one essential piece.
Often some donor is not on the list, or the titbit is forgotten, etc.
We seem to be reinventing the wheel in cycles as a newbe comes
up with a problem resolved several times in the (recent) past.

We use to do this in the old days on a BBSes.

We can start small on a few main subjects as: comm since many
are interested in lore of comm connections.

Watda yu think?

Yes, I'll be your first volunteer, let me know.
yor pal al......................

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:01:46 -0400
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Getting a different sort order in Filer

I tend to use Filer a lot to find and start files.  It has always been
annoying to me to have the important directory _DAT always at the end of
my numerous directory list (I have 32 MB ram - Ha-ha), forcing me to
scroll down to get to it.  It is particularly annoying because some other
programs (Norton Commander for instance) will sort alphabetically with the
_ at the top of the ASCII alphabetical order.

I know I could sort in reverse order, but that is not convenient for the
other directories.  Other than renaming the _DAT directory into something
that will sort first (but that just might mess up some applications that
expect to see it named _DAT), is there any other way to force Filer to put
_DAT on top?

Thanks.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:29:09 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Getting a different sort order in Filer
Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com

   >I tend to use Filer a lot to find and start files.  It has always
   >been annoying to me to have the important directory _DAT always at
   >the end of my numerous directory list (I have 32 MB ram - Ha-ha),
   >forcing me to scroll down to get to it.  It is particularly
   >annoying because some other programs (Norton Commander for
   >instance) will sort alphabetically with the _ at the top of the
   >ASCII alphabetical order.
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:29:44 +0000

   >I know I could sort in reverse order, but that is not convenient
   >for the other directories.  Other than renaming the _DAT directory
   >into something that will sort first (but that just might mess up
   >some applications that expect to see it named _DAT), is there any
   >other way to force Filer to put _DAT on top?

I doubt there's an easy way to do this.

A cheesy workaround would be to use the DOS SUBST command and map the
c:\_dat directory to a drive letter, say B: (no one uses it anyway).

Then access your c:\_dat files by picking B:

Norton Commander must be making special allowances for non-alphabetic
names, cuz the underscore normally does follow behind the uppercase alphas
in the ASCII collating sequence (albeit ahead of the lowercase letters).

- Longden

PS - The SUBST command was available in DOS 6.x and to map the c:\_dat
directory, you would have to run subst before running the 200 command.

        subst b: c:\_dat

or you could use another drive letter like f: instead.

It works like the assign command provided in your ROM with DOS 5, but is
better in being much smaller and able to map directories instead of just
drives. Sorry if this isn't what you want.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:40:41 -0500
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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> If we start to allow different languages on this list then we will soon
> see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish, French, German and so on
> and it will be very uninteresting since we all will start to loose
> interesting information. This list is here so we can share information-
> right?

I'm interested that you think added variety in language would make
things less interesting.

On comp.sys.hp48 there are a few French posters who are a bit chauvanistic
about their language and post as often as they can in French instead of
English.  They sometimes do this with good reason and often do it to make
a point.  But if they have something to say that they want heard, they
post that in English.

Ok, I agree that's a little bit silly.  Most of the French posters don't
do that.  It's just a few.  But it's just the kind of situation you seem
to fear.  It's also one of the most information filled newsgroups I've
ever read.  I find it fascinating.

Since I don't read French, when I come to a message in French, I just
skip it.  No big deal.

It's always nice to have a few oddballs around.  I don't like to discourage
them.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:43:21 -0500
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Hi there y'all
Maybe this is a dumb question or has been asked before, but could any one
out there please explaim me  how can I read, answer and  write my mail in
the hp  and then send it using the pc?, I have the conectivity pack  wich
includes the conecting cable, I also tfwin200, using either of those
programs can copy from the pc to the hp or viceversa, but so far havent been
able to figure out how to doit
plase help
TIA

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:23:48 -0700
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Hi, Arturo:
>
My advice is to get a PC Card slot for your PC such as a Simple Station, =
Adtron or Steele Creeks mfrs. It's a lot more convenient and faster.
>
Bernie Torbik

-----Original Message-----
From:   Arturo Galindo Godinez ÝSMTP:agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM¨
Sent:   Saturday, June 20, 1998 12:43 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Hi there y'all
Maybe this is a dumb question or has been asked before, but could any =
one
out there please explaim me  how can I read, answer and  write my mail =
in
the hp  and then send it using the pc?, I have the conectivity pack  =
wich
includes the conecting cable, I also tfwin200, using either of those
programs can copy from the pc to the hp or viceversa, but so far havent =
been
able to figure out how to doit
plase help
TIA

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:36:54 +0200
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              John Allen <jballen@SPRYNET.COM>
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>With Turbo C++, version 1.0 works on the palmtop, so you would buy a >newer
>version (I believe they still sell 3.0 for DOS Ýwhich cannot run on the
>200LX¨ and 4.5 for Windows) and then not use the version you purchased,
>but instead use 1.0.

I just purchased Borland Turbo C++ 3.1 for DOS as part of the "Teach
yourself C++ in 21 days - complete compiler edition", $39.99 from
amazon.com including a very fat book on C++.

It's not a bad deal, but as far as I can see, the Turbo C++ 3.1 compiler
itself will not run on the palmtops because it requires DPMI, which
needs an 80286 or higher CPU Ýplease correct if I am wrong here¨.
However, the executables will run on the palmtop (and are reasonably
small eg <10K for a small "hello world" type C program). I must say that
I was a bit disappointed, because part of my object in acquiring the
compiler was to have a C++ compiler which would itself run on an
HP200LX, in preparation for pursuing programming projects on my summer
holiday by the seaside in Nova Scotia. So now I have to go back a
version and try Turbo C++ 2, if I can find a copy (it's not on the
market in any form that I'm aware of, but neither is it considered
"abandonware").

I am aware, incidentally, that earlier C++ compilers, even Turbo C++
3.1, will not compile "modern" C++ programs such as the example programs
in Stroustrup (3rd edition), since they lack certain features of current
C++ and also the standard C++ library. For working with Stroustrup's
examples, I had success with C++ Builder (ver 1), used as a pure C++
compiler producing executables which run in a DOS window (but not on the
palmtop). C++ Builder and Borland C++ 4.5 have both been distributed
recently as "cover disks" with the UK magazine PC Plus.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:53:46 -0400
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I downloaded the IR drivers from the S.U.P.E.R. site (thanks Mitch) and
my PN60i works great!  It took me a while to remember to set the
printer to IR, but after that, no problem.

I used a glossy paper and the print quality is equal to LJ.  On regular
copy paper, it is a bit less crisp, but still looks good.

I hope David Shier will answer my email Monday about the dierct cable
working with the PN60i.  I will forward his response to this list.

Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:01:50 +0200
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              Alexander Stanovoy <alex@TELIA.LT>
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Hello,

Trying to use telnet on my 100LX I can't use arrow keys.
For example up is 8 or down 2. Whats wrong? How can I use arrow keys?
Same when I working with terminal from Program Manager.
Please help.

Thanks to all.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:11:12 -0400
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David Shier just replied to my email.  He said the direct cable his
company makes will work with the PN60i. The lady in his office was
incorrect.

I am ordering one Monday!

Chris

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:41:56 GMT
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Subject:      Re: Compuserver users: can someone d/l this file?
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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:23:23 -0500, barrym wrote:

>I'm not a lawyer but I've seen this discussed a number of times on CIS
>forums and the way it's usually expressed is that they have a copyright
>on their 'collection'.  You can distribute that software as long as you
>dont get it from CIS.  This is supposed to be similar to the collection
>copyrights on cd's of Guttenberg texts.  It's distributable but not from
>the cd.

I understood that some software available on CIS is restricted to
distribution via CIS at the explicit instruction of the author(s). In =
these
case, one certainly shouldn't redistribute. However, much of what is
available on CIS is common or garden shareware, which could well be found
elsewhere. I would suggest that in such cases CIS have no control over
redistribution, so someone with CIS access could download the software
originally referred to, check the documentation, and if redistribution
isn't explicitly forbidden send a copy on.

>Anyway, thats what I've been told.  If you want to make the argument =
that
>our copyright laws have gotten silly, I won't disagree. :)

They can indeed be silly.=20

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:21:31 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: help

Oi Arturo
The question has been asked before many times, but
here is an answer for your edification on how use
the collectivity pack which includes the connecting
cable and win2000.

Connect your LX with the PC. Be careful or you'll
mash the serial pins.  On the LX, go into Filer.
On the PC go into Filer, then F6, F7.

On your PC screen, you should see a split screen
Be consistent and Keep the REMOTE always on the
left side and LOCAL on the right.

If you get this far, my boy, you've got it.
Just highlight the files you want to move and do it.

Win2000 is great and better because you can see the
dates of the files but needs an extra serial port to
connect your mouse too. You will see the problem when
you try it.

BTW: A flash slot would be easier but if you learn to
do it this way, you can do it anywhere in the world
carrying just a cable and a diskette on anyone's PC.
I gave you a solution for what you have.

BTW2: I have a flash drive that I've never used and
is for sale if you want to carry it all around the world.

Happy father's day.
Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:13:06 -0800
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              Bill Buzan <bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM>
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>In a message dated 98-06-16 17:44:12 EDT,
>>  <snip>I am
>>  >looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
>>  >carry the cards in my pocket

I went to Target ( a very generic department store) and went to the womens
purse section and got one wallet type that had slots for credit cards.
They fit snugly, are inobtrusively padded, won't gather inordinate attention,
are concealable, accessable, fashionable etc. etc. etc.
Don't forget cheap.

Bill Buzan

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:34:08 -0400
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Since noone else has mentioned it - Cyberguys (http://www.cyberguys.com,
1-800-892-1010) has PCMCIA card holders for single cards; a 3-pack costs
$2.39 (cat. no. 101-0680). They're polypropylene, & sound like what you're
looking for. Cyberguys; 11345 Sunrise Park Drive; Rancho Cordova, CA 95742.
These were in their Fall/Winter & Winter/Spring catalogs; didn't see them in
the Spring/Summer  one thoough.

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD
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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:06:43 -0500
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On 06-20 07:31am, had been written:

# I do not know how superior the 200Lx or Dos is.  However, I can tell you
# that the last thing I want to do when I am driving in my car trying to pull
# a phone number off my Palmtop is try and click a button with a pen.  This
# assumes that I haven't dropped the pen in the seat or left it on my desk at
# my office. Punching the buttons on the keyboard is a heck of a lot easier.
#


Uh, Y'know, isn't this just a wee bit dangerous to you and everyone
around you in traffic?  This rather reminds me of those people I see on
the highway, going down the road reading a map, newspaper, etc.
Nothing's so important that it's worth other people's lives rather than
pull over, is it?
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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:24:46 -0500
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On 06-20 08:32am, had been written:

# Does anyone know the "real" power input requirements on the 200LX so
# that I can homebrew an ac adapter?
# Nick Marsh
# WB4SQI

About 9.6 to 13 VDC.  My inclination is to go on the low side, about
10.5 volts, since the pwr supply in the 200 appears to be a linear and
should run a little cooler that way.
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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:45:18 EDT
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> Well..
>
> for $ 89 I would expect to have it process instantly !!!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Hi,
> >
> > > I just sent my info in to register www/lx, and I was wondering
> > how long it
> > > takes to get registered?
> >
> > It takes up to 24 hours. Yours took about 21 hours. It was
> > received after we stopped working last night. We had other
> > work to do today, and then we got to registrations, registered
> > you and sent info back. C'mon man! 21 hours! Give me a break...
> > Slavedriver! <VBG>
> >
> >   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
> >

I got mine in a couple of hours. I registered it in the afternoon.

Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:03:19 +1000
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-----Original Message-----
From: S.Todd <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, 20 June 1998 17:29
Subject: printing serial>parallel


On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 Alex Baker <abaker@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>See how this goes....It worked for me!

Since my first (thrilled) message, I've done a bit more
experimenting.

Did you get it to work in DOS, or just with the HP's
built-in applications?

S.Todd

Haven't tried it in DOS...but it works for all HP's built in apps.
How do you print direct from DOS again....!

Alex Baker

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:58:50 -0700
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> I am curious why you won't say what numbers that you believe are =
accurate
> (with regard to the number of worldwide users of HP palmtops)?  Is this =
a
> competitive secret?

I received the info on the promise that I will not tell.

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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:58:53 -0700
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> Well..
>
> for $ 89 I would expect to have it process instantly !!!

Well, it does not. It takes up to 24 hours. It probably will
not be instantaneous for the forseeable future. I want to
check each order to prevent problems. Sorry if this does not
meet your expectations. Is this a reason you did not purchase
WWW/LX Plus Version 2? :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:16:17 EDT
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> On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> I'm interested that you think added variety in language would make
> things less interesting.
>snip<

This isn't really the problem, in my view...

>
> Since I don't read French, when I come to a message in French, I just
> skip it.  No big deal.
>snip<

The problem for me is that I retrieve my mail from this list using the
palmtop. I have about 150k free for messages, sometimes less. Each =
message
is about 2.5k.  So there's like a 60 message limit. I wouldn't want 10 or =
20
of them to be unreadable to me. When I get a RAM upgrade, then I won't =
mind
just skipping them.

Darren.
>
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:26:00 -0400
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Subject:      Re: ACT!
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thank-you.  Now that I have it on my palmtop, it doesn't seem to import all
the built in features such as the phone book and appointment book that are
already chock full of information.  Does this mean I have to manually re
input all the names and appointments.  Or, do I have to import it.  Better
yet, I would be able to read the same data from ACT and the built in
programs.

How do you do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, June 20, 1998 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: ACT!


>Go to the follow page for information on how to download a free copy of
ACT!
>for the HP:
>
>http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/200lxinfo.htm
>
>Michael Stocker
>e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
>home page: http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
>
>----------
>From: Phil WHORTON <Whorton@MAIL.TURCK-GLOBE.DE>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: ACT!
>Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 8:29 AM
>
>** Nur Empf-nger **
>
>Hi Guys
>
>Does anyone out there have a copy of ACT! for the palmtop that they would
like
>to sell me?
>
>Symantec don't mention it on their website so is there anywhere else I can
get
>it?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Phil
>
>
>***************************************************
>Phil Whorton
>Key Account Systemtechnik
>Hans Turck GmbH und Co. KG
>Tel          (49) 208/4952-328
>FAX        (49) 208/4952-264
>Mobile    (49) 171/2254415
>E-Mail    Whorton@mail.turck-globe.de
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Date:         Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:24:33 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.980621005546.1732A-100000@alex.telia.lt> from
              Alexander Stanovoy at "Jun 21, 98 01:01:50 am"
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Yes, on the LX the MT program seems to think "numlock" is active and that
the LX arrow keys are from the numeric keypad of a standard keyboard.

> Hello,
>
> Trying to use telnet on my 100LX I can't use arrow keys.
> For example up is 8 or down 2. Whats wrong? How can I use arrow keys?
> Same when I working with terminal from Program Manager.
> Please help.
>
> Thanks to all.
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:44:37 +0010
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True, true and true
The probleme some time (I can tell you) is when you are not living in
your country. Most of the ISP don't download all the news and I
can't read or write news groups from my country.
but you are true: this is not a raison
regards
> > If we start to allow different languages on this list then we will soon
> > see- English, Swedish, Malay, Chinese, Spanish, French, German and so on
> > and it will be very uninteresting since we all will start to loose
> > interesting information. This list is here so we can share information-
> > right?
>
> I'm interested that you think added variety in language would make
> things less interesting.
>
> On comp.sys.hp48 there are a few French posters who are a bit chauvanistic
> about their language and post as often as they can in French instead of
> English.  They sometimes do this with good reason and often do it to make
> a point.  But if they have something to say that they want heard, they
> post that in English.
>
> Ok, I agree that's a little bit silly.  Most of the French posters don't
> do that.  It's just a few.  But it's just the kind of situation you seem
> to fear.  It's also one of the most information filled newsgroups I've
> ever read.  I find it fascinating.

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 05:57:27 -0000
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Radiomail + ARDIS gone...

SY>Recd a letter from American Mobile,  which has bought ARDIS, telling me
  >to call them before July 15th to find out my options or my Radiomail
  >service would be cut off. Called and they faxed me the info for a HP
  >200lx + Motorola PM100D user...  The faxed info starts off:
  >"HP stopped producing the HP 95, HP 100LX and HP 200LXL (sic) over the
  >last few years. Unfortunately, we don't have a way to upgrade the HP
  >Palmtops to use the IKON gateway" , and gives me two options. Call and
  >they have a limited number of new NEC WinCE 1.0 devices on a first come
  >first serve basis and "we will give you one of these devices free of
  >charge for each HP PalmTop that is active on the ARDIS network today"
  >Second option for when they run out of free devices is a plan that
  >provides $$ off the purchase of a WinCE device...   Blah, blah....
  >Suresh Nirody

Not good news.  I was still hoping to go wireless if the price dropped
just a little more.... Is Wyndmail still an option?

Jim

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:15:17 -0500
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I started several years ago just wanting to read email with my
palmtop.  I have an Apex fax/modem/memory card that runs at 2400
baud.

First I just used DataComm and read email with my shell account.

Next I used Qual-x and ccMail until my ISP removed Qual-x from the
system.

Then, I got WWW/LX V1.0 and was very happy until my ISP changed their
setup and it quit working.  I tried to get WWW/LX V2.0 working, but
dasoft says it won't run at 2400 baud.

Next, I tried Nettamer.  It worked, but the interface was funky.

Finally, I tried Goin' Postal V2.15.  It works perfectly!  It was a
snap to setup, the interface is nice, and it's quick.  As an added
benefit, I can run MiniTelnet and an ftp client.  So far, Goin' Postal
has been rock solid.  My registration check goes in the mail Monday.
I urge everyone to try Goin' Postal, especially if you have the same
2400 baud Fax/Modem/Memory card I have.

-David
No connection to Goin' Postal, just very, very happy with it.

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) EVALUATION

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 02:31:12 -0400
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              "S.Todd" <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 Alex Baker <abaker@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>Haven't tried it in DOS...but it works for all HP's built in apps.
>How do you print direct from DOS again....!

I tried both a DOS app (Agenda 1.01) and a copy to printer.
(The DOS print command is not on the HP.) The commands
seemed to work on the HP, but nothing happened on the
desktop.

S.Todd

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 04:23:52 -0400
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Does anyone know where I can get
a nice name plate for my 200LX?

Thank you,
Yujin

----------
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State University of New York at Stony Brook

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 04:32:18 -0400
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Forgive my stupid English.
Nameplate is one word, right? :-)

Thank you,
Yujin

----------
Yujin Nagasawa
State University of New York at Stony Brook

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            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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> Does anyone know where I can get
> a nice name plate for my 200LX?
>
> Thank you,
> Yujin
>
> ----------
> Yujin Nagasawa
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
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From:         Alain Psyche <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Name Plate
Comments: To: Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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I have second hand one for free.
with my name!
regards
> Forgive my stupid English.
> Nameplate is one word, right? :-)
>
> Thank you,
> Yujin
>
> ----------
> Yujin Nagasawa
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
> E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>             QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
> ----------
>
> > Does anyone know where I can get
> > a nice name plate for my 200LX?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Yujin
> >
> > ----------
> > Yujin Nagasawa
> > State University of New York at Stony Brook
> >
> > E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
> >             QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Al
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:52:08 +0200
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Thank You,
Yes I understand this, but how to work?
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Yes, on the LX the MT program seems to think "numlock" is active and that
> the LX arrow keys are from the numeric keypad of a standard keyboard.
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Trying to use telnet on my 100LX I can't use arrow keys.
> > For example up is 8 or down 2. Whats wrong? How can I use arrow keys?
> > Same when I working with terminal from Program Manager.
> > Please help.
> >
> > Thanks to all.
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:14:34 -0500
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Comments: To: "malkajef@orthohelp.com" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

On Saturday, June 20, 1998 12:02 PM, Jeff Malka
ÝSMTP:malkajef@orthohelp.com¨ wrote:
> I tend to use Filer a lot to find and start files.  It has always been
> annoying to me to have the important directory _DAT always at the end of
> my numerous directory list (I have 32 MB ram - Ha-ha), forcing me to
> scroll down to get to it.  ...
Ý... snip ...¨

  Ok, maybe I'm missing something here, but when I want to get to the _DAT
folder on the C: drive of my machine, I just go to the C: drive and then
press ÝShift¨Ý-¨ (shift-minus), and the cursor jumps to the _DAT
directory...

  Does that help?  :¬)

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Comments: To: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>

On Saturday, June 20, 1998 5:22 PM, al chin ÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨ wrote:
Ý... snip ...¨
> BTW2: I have a flash drive that I've never used and
> is for sale if you want to carry it all around the world.
Ý... snip ...¨

  Ok, I'm interested.  Please tell me more!
  What make and model?
  How much do you want for it?
  What type of interface?

  Thanks,
         ... John L. Stanley

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:37:34 -0400
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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 04:23:52 -0400, Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU=
> wrote:

yn> Does anyone know where I can get
yn> a nice name plate for my 200LX?
yn>
yn> Thank you,
yn> Yujin
yn>
yn> ----------
yn> Yujin Nagasawa
yn> State University of New York at Stony Brook

Yujin,

I purchased several at a trophy shop in town.  They had to radius the
corners, as I recall, but the name plates fit into the slot on my
200LX.  As I recall, the total price was about $15 for two with my info
engraved.

Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:41:57 -0500
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              98 09:58:50 pm
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> > I am curious why you won't say what numbers that you believe are accurate
> > (with regard to the number of worldwide users of HP palmtops)?  Is this a
> > competitive secret?
>
> I received the info on the promise that I will not tell.

Avi:

Just curious about this.  If someone has this information, or a good
educated estimate, what would be their motive for keeping it close to
the vest?  It isn't immediately obvious how this is a competitive
advantage - perhaps there is another reason that I haven't
thought of?  That's entirely likely, as I'm just an engineer, and
don't have a businessman's (or -woman's) mind...

-Chris

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David:

I'm curious about a couple of things in your saga...

> Next I used Qual-x and ccMail until my ISP removed Qual-x from the
> system.

I don't know exactly what Qual-x is, but can guess from your
brief description.  You say they removed it?  Was there a technical
problem with it, or did it just get blasted away during an upgrade?
Have you inquired about re-installing it?

> Then, I got WWW/LX V1.0 and was very happy until my ISP changed their
> setup and it quit working.  I tried to get WWW/LX V2.0 working, but
> dasoft says it won't run at 2400 baud.

I don't want to put words in Avi's mouth, but he and I recently
corresponded on this very topic.  I *thought* the reason for this
lower limit on baud rates was related to the operation of the
ISP's equipment (how they setup various TCP/IP timeouts).  I'm
surprised that you can get a PPP connection established at 2400
baud with GP (which implies that your server does support this
rate) and not with WWW/LX.  Very interesting... I'll have to
try my ISP, and see just "how low can you go?".

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:04:53 -0500
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Subject:      Flashdrive

Johnny
Happy Father's day to yu.

As I never used it I don't know.
I got it with my old Poqet for type two
flash cards so it will probably work.
As for compacts, your guess is as good as mine.
The brand is Tidalware, a noname for the sticks.
It uses a parallel port connex with a bypass.

As for what I want, my favorite is
frequent flyer miles. If you have a whole lot
that's gonna expire soon anyway, etc.
If you twist my arm I'll take cash.
or any LX toy I don't have. Offer me something(s).
I'll throw in a few small SRAM cards. They're surpose
to be good but I can't see the todo about them.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:07:27 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Name Plate

Nagsawa san

You can get a great engraved name plate like I
have cheep with red or black background with
white letters in a cheepo 5 & 10 someplace.
You gots to lookie.  I got mine in Malaysia
and realized they got this stuff in the states.
Yu knows the ones, they're on street corners
and even in flee markets. Where they make keys
is one place I remember seeing them for mailboxes
You can cut them to size as its plastic.

Yu go or teach at SUNY (what?)?
Nameplate is one word, right? :-)
It started out as two words, then hyphenated,
then concatenated, chooze yer poison.

Yor tomodachi al .....................

PS:
I purchased several at a trophy shop in town.  They had to radius the
corners, as I recall, but the name plates fit into the slot on my
200LX.  As I recall, the total price was about $15 for two with my info
engraved.   THERE YU GO, TROPHY SHOPS ANOTHER LIKLY PLACE.

Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:21:30 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of
> Yujin Nagasawa
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 1998 4:24 AM

> Does anyone know where I can get
> a nice name plate for my 200LX?

Yujin, I got an original name plate for my 200lx some time back, complete
with my name very nicely engraved from EduCalc for about 10 bucks or less.
Unfortunately that company has gone out of business but perhaps one of the
other palmtop shops is worth a try - maybe Shier for example?

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Alain Psyche
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 1998 11:35 AM

> The probleme some time (I can tell you) is when you are not living in
> your country. Most of the ISP don't download all the news and I
> can't read or write news groups from my country.

Alain, there are several free news servers available on the net that you may
use. Some allow posting while others do not and the number of newsgroups
they carry varies from about 3000 to over 13000. My ISP does not have a news
server but i connect with a server - news.lexicomp.net - (actually i'm not
sure where it is) and it carries about 13k groups and the connections are
reasonably fast most of the time. Plus there is the Deja News web-based
service which is very popular also.

If you're interested write me off the list and i'll send you a listing of
free news servers (html format).

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:11:11 -0400
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>From:    "William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq." <w.ponsoldtjr@WORLDNET.ATT.NE=
T>
>I do not know how superior the 200Lx or Dos is.  However, I can tell y=
ou
>that the last thing I want to do when I am driving in my car trying to=


I hope no one is using their LX, or anything else, while driving.  You =
should
keep both hands on the
wheel and pay attention to the road.  I'm tired of cel phone users weav=
ing down
the road while
trying to dial a number and it would be even worse with an LX.  If you =
must use
it, pull off the road.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:38:59 -0500
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As you all know, the entire point of a well-stocked army navy store is to
find interesting looking whatnots and put them to a use never intended by
their creators. Case in point: I was browsing I. Golderberg's in Philly
yesterday and found a commercial reproduction of an M-16 magazine holder.
Apparently, the clip of this weapon is almost exactly the same size as my
200LX. The pouch is tighly woven nylon (your choice of black, standard
camo, urban camo, woodland camo, and desert camo) with a flip-top. The case
closes with a plastic quick-release. It has a pair of steel ALICE belt
clips and a eyelet on the back. The internal compartment is 2.5 x the
volume of an LX. The from and back panels have thick plastic
reenforcements. It is reasonable water resistant, and designed to have the
shift kicked out of it. The only oddity (thinking in terms of a carry-all
for LX stuff) is the presence of 2 hand grenade holders on either side.
Besides holding hand grenades, I can think of no use for them, at the
moment anyhow, so I stitched them flush against the side. A new toy, all
for $9!

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How do I run news2 under post/lx? It says it begins to load, then immediat=
ely says it is disconnecting the ppp connection? By the way, this software=
 rocks! I still like nettamer for IRC and telnet/ftp, but for browsing =
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:59:29 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <5030100022101677000002L072*@MHS> from "Russel Brooks" at Jun 21,
              98 12:11:11 pm
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> I hope no one is using their LX, or anything else, while driving.
> ...

Russ:

I guess I'll abandon the fleeting thought I had the other day.  It
occurred to me that some properly placed velcro on the center of my
steering wheel would hold my 200LX securely for use - while stopped
or parked, of course.  But the temptation might be too great to
look up a phone number on the move...  (my 200LX has two strips
of Velcro across the top to hold a palmtop light when it's dark).

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:30:21 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:45:23 -0400 (EDT)

For anybody interested in programming in Forth, I got permission from
Frank Sergeant (Pygmy's author) to distribute a version of Pygmy 1.5
modified for the 100/200LX palmtops.  I just sent a copy to Mitch for
SUPER, so it should be avavilble soon.

It has a modified editor (based on the one in 100Pygmy), that zooms to
64 column mode for editing, and back out when done.  It looks pretty
much like the built-in apps (but is text mode). There's an extension
source file that has a bunch of palmtop graphics words, plus time,
date, battery status etc.

For those I sent HP-Pygmy, this is a slightly updated version.  The
EXTEND.SCR file is rearranged for better organization, and the docs are
a little more complete...

-Peniel
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Just looked at my last message---  Sheesh  "avavilble"???  To point out
the obvious - it's supposed to say "available".  Guess I've gone from
monolingual to non-lingual 8-(

-PR
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:34:13 -0500
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>>In a message dated 98-06-16 17:44:12 EDT,
>>>  <snip>I am
>>>  >looking for something that only stores the cards snugly so that I may
>>>  >carry the cards in my pocket
>
I saw something on my recent Army Navy store expedition that I regret not
getting. I. Goldberg's had a bevvy of small ammo/compas pouches. A couple
were the size of 2-3 PCcards in their plastic flip cases. Light padding,
velco top, nylon, belt clips... Guess I'll have to go back tomorrow...

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:38:10 -0500
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>>From:    "William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq." <w.ponsoldtjr@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>>I do not know how superior the 200Lx or Dos is.  However, I can tell you
>>that the last thing I want to do when I am driving in my car trying to
>
>I hope no one is using their LX, or anything else, while driving.  You should
>keep both hands on the
>wheel and pay attention to the road.  I'm tired of cel phone users weaving
>down
>the road while
>trying to dial a number and it would be even worse with an LX.  If you
>must use
>it, pull off the road.
>
>Russ Brooks
>
This is actually illegal in many places, Princeton, NJ, coming to mind. The
fine for talking on a cel phone while driving is quite excessive. What we
need are voice-actuated HPLX's with a head's up display on the windshield.
Any takers for this summer project? p.s. I don't drive.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:28:24 -0500
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              "m. c. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: ANN: HP-Pygmy Forth

On 06-21 12:30pm, was written-}

# Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:45:23 -0400 (EDT)
# For those I sent HP-Pygmy, this is a slightly updated version.  The
# EXTEND.SCR file is rearranged for better organization, and the docs are
# a little more complete...
#
# -Peniel
# ------------


Thanks for the update!

-
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     mark beutler                           mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

          "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend."
          "Inside a dog, It's too dark to read."     G. Marx
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:35:56 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Wyndmail
Comments: To: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM

Wyndmail is still alive and well. I use it with my 200LX and get excellent
service. Wynd Communications are a very  friendly group of people and have
HP200LX-knowledgeable technical support personnel.

-----Original Message-----
From: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM <PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Sunday, June 21, 1998 1:03 AM
Subject: Radiomail + ARDIS gone...


>>Not good news.  I was still hoping to go wireless if the price dropped
>just a little more.... Is Wyndmail still an option?
>
>Jim
>
> * 1st 2.00 #9525 * * Stop repeat offenders.  Don't reelect them!
>
>--
> (Jim Henry)
>         AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193
>      http://www.airpower.com  Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:44:08 -0400
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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:59:29 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> =
wrote:

rc> > I hope no one is using their LX, or anything else, while driving.
rc> > ...
rc>
rc> Russ:
rc>
rc> I guess I'll abandon the fleeting thought I had the other day.  It
rc> occurred to me that some properly placed velcro on the center of my
rc> steering wheel would hold my 200LX securely for use - while stopped
rc> or parked, of course.  But the temptation might be too great to
rc> look up a phone number on the move...  (my 200LX has two strips
rc> of Velcro across the top to hold a palmtop light when it's dark).
rc>
rc> -Chris Lott

Chris,

If you have an airbag, velcroing anything to the pod in the middle of
the steering wheel is a very bad idea.  At best, you would have a
permanent imprint of the Lx on your forehead if the airbag deployed. At
worst, the imprint could be seen from the back of your head!

Remember, steering wheel airbags were designed (by US law) to protect a
full sized adult male-with out a seatbelt in the event of an collision.
That means a lot of force blowing the cover apart and the bag out
BEFORE your face hits it!

Chris

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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:06:43 -0500, m. c. Beutler wrote:

>Uh, Y'know, isn't this just a wee bit dangerous to you and everyone
>around you in traffic?  This rather reminds me of those people I see on
>the highway, going down the road reading a map, newspaper, etc.
>Nothing's so important that it's worth other people's lives rather than
>pull over, is it?

Indeed, I thought exactly the same. Here in the UK, you *will* get
prosecuted if the police catch you doing such things. We even have a law
making the use of mobile phones illegal whilst driving - unless of the
hands free variety.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:01:17 -0700
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I use my HPLX's cc:Mail (palmtop.com) regularly and have found an odd feature
(or bug?).

If a message is created and resides in the OUTBOX and then later revised, the
user has 4 odd option to choose from in order to save the changes.

1) SEND to MAIL
Which creates a new revised message.  If the user connects at this point, both
old & new versions are sent.

2) SEND to SAVE
Which stores the new version in "Saved Message Folder". At this point only the
old version would be sent.

3) SEND to MAIL & SAVE
With this option you end up with the old and new versions in the OUTBOX and a
new version in the save folder.

With the above 3 option, the user must delete the old version or it will be
sent.

4) If the user happens to have other messages in the OUTBOX, F8 (Prev) or F9
(Next) can be selected.  A prompt appears asking to save the changes.  By
pressing YES the old version is _updated_ and the new version is placed in the
saved folder.  The old version is automaticaly deleted.  However, the user gets
some other odd messages about an unsupported feature until exiting the OUTBOX
folder.

If there is a better way to make changes to OUTBOX messages, please let me
know.

Don.

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Hi, somebody has tested a PCMCIA LAN Card with the 200lx,
is there some supply problems or any thing like this ?

regards, Ale

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:00:01 +0200
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I have a repeating apointment set for every six months which reminds me to
clean up my appointment files. I do this using File/Extract followed by
File/Remove. I name the extracted file with the date (Japanese format) i.e
the file I extracted on June 1st is called 980601.adb This file was then
automatically backed up to my desktop during my weekly backup, after which I
wiped it from the palmtop. Anytime I want to check out an old appointment or
todo I do it with the connectivity pack app on the desktop.


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->> I tend to use Filer a lot to find and start files.  It has always been
->> annoying to me to have the important directory _DAT always at the end of
->> my numerous directory list (I have 32 MB ram - Ha-ha), forcing me to
->> scroll down to get to it.  ...
->Ý... snip ...¨
->  Ok, maybe I'm missing something here, but when I want to get to the
->_DAT  folder on the C: drive of my machine, I just go to the C: drive
->and then  press ÝShift¨Ý-¨ (shift-minus), and the cursor jumps to the
->_DAT  directory...

I do too.  But. if _DAT was at the top of the directory list, I could just
press "enter" and be in it instead of having to press 2 keys BEFORE
getting to press that enter.  Two less clicks is not the end of the world,
but since Norton's Commander puts _ at the top, it just seemed to be a
good idea to see if there was a way for FILER to do the same.  From what I
hear, it does not, so I will go back to pressing Shift/- to get ot it :-).
It's the same convenience presently available which when you press ESC,
FILER moves to the higher directory.  Of course one could press Fn/left
arrow to go to home (the top of the screen) and then press "enter" to
achieve the same thing.  But ESC is a nice touch.  Having _DAT sorted at
the top would be a similar nice touch.

Peace

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> Instead of spending time in front of something that look like the olde >
idiot box, I would rather be lazing by the waterfront with my 200LX and >
doing the things most people would have to do on a desktop.
>
> That's quality of life.

Right on. My favourite programming environment is lying back in a hammock
with a cup of coffee (or a beer if its a really diffucult problem), working
with my palmtop. I find it much more productive than fighting with the kids
to get to the desk top at home.




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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:37:20 -0400
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Packages have been opened and most are complete.
I have listed which packages have manuals and which ones do not have =
manuals.
I have listed the original disk format: 5 1/4", 3 1/2" or both.
I can copy the original disk to the other disk format, if needed.
Prices include insurance and shipping to the continental United States.
Please email me direct if you are interested in any of the below items.
Do not reply to this message.
My email address is:rbird2@mich.com

ZEOS MS-DOS 5.0 with manuals.
(5 1/4" disks). $10.00

QuickMenu III for DOS The Ultimate Program Manager includes file =
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with manual.
(5 1/4 and 3 1/2" disks). $25.00

Microsoft Works 2.0 for DOS includes a word processor with spell =
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with manual, 10 Minutes to productivity booklet, and Quick reference =
card. (3 1/2" disks). $25.00

Brown Bag Software Word Processor includes spell checker with manual.=20
(5 1/4 and 3 1/2" disks).  $10.00

Springboard Certificate Maker with manual.=20
(5 1/4" disks). $10.00=20

On Time Lifetime Appointment Calendar/Planner with manual.=20
(5 1/4 and 3 1/2" disks). $10.00

Inset Systems HiJaak graphics conversion and screen capture 2.0  program
with manuals.=20
(5 1/4" disks). $15.00

Sybex Mastering Word Perfect 5.1 for DOS by Alan Simpson book only. =
$10.00

Easy Working from Spinnaker-The Writer Word Processor.=20
(5 1/4" disks). $15.00

Easy Working from Spinnaker-Personal Cash Manager.
(5 1/4" disks). $10.00=20

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(5 1/4" disks). $15.00

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Order ALL 4 Easy Working titles for $40.00.=20


Keynotes Associated Press Stylebook. Guides to word usage,  punctuation, =
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Thank You for reading this message,
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:04:22 -0700
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Mark,

<< "Those who live by the sword get shot by those who do not."

Excellent! Thanks...

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:04:18 -0700
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Jorgen,

I get Info-beat e-paper too, slick stuff... But never tried to
use that paper in the .... oh never mind already :-) ...

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Brendan,

> > 400,000 is an incorrect number by magnitudes.
> SO, it's either greater than 9,999,999, or less than 9,999....

Well, I guess I use magnitudes less mathematically than you
do. <G>...

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Darren,

> I got mine in a couple of hours. I registered it in the afternoon.

Sorry it was so fast :) ... I'll add 26 hours to whatever you
register next! <g>...

Sometimes it works fast, not always. I check every
registration personally, and, alas, I sometimes do not login
75 time a day :) so it is slower. I think I missed 24 hours
twice so far.

Seriously, In most cases it is less than a day, but sometimes
timing is not perfect. Example: Sometimes I stop working at
6pm. When I login again it is the next day, around 4pm.
Yesterday, Saturday, I did not login at all. Many times on
Weekends I work, but do not login. So, that is how it works. I
wish we were as big as Amazon.com. I ordered something and got
email back in 2 hours, and another an hour later! Whhoooosh!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:06:53 -0600
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Is it possible to run an HP 200 calculator program on any of the new CE
hand held computers?  The HP 200 calculator is reason enough not to switch.

Carol

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psys wrote:
>
> Hi, somebody has tested a PCMCIA LAN Card with the 200lx,
> is there some supply problems or any thing like this ?

If you're looking for one, get the Accton EN2216-1 card.  I'm working on a
FAQ right now about networking and the 200LX.
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:26:36 -0700
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psys wrote:
>
> Hi, somebody has tested a PCMCIA LAN Card with the 200lx,
> is there some supply problems or any thing like this ?

BTW, CompUSA online (www.compusa.com) has the Accton EN2216-1 cards for
about $70.
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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:19:40 +0100
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In message <358c9886.2376869@post.eng.demon.net>, Neil Tungate
<neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK> writes
>On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:06:43 -0500, m. c. Beutler wrote:
>
>>Uh, Y'know, isn't this just a wee bit dangerous to you and everyone
>>around you in traffic?  This rather reminds me of those people I see on
>>the highway, going down the road reading a map, newspaper, etc.
>>Nothing's so important that it's worth other people's lives rather than
>>pull over, is it?
>
>Indeed, I thought exactly the same. Here in the UK, you *will* get
>prosecuted if the police catch you doing such things. We even have a law
>making the use of mobile phones illegal whilst driving - unless of the
>hands free variety.
>

Could be a cue for the "hands free palmtop" ?
It can not be too far away now can it ?
Who needs a keyboard ?

Well, me for now but who knows what may be round the corner?

Maybe one day handheld units will integrate with cars, household
security systems, and maybe even industrial machinery and commercial
systems (like keys).

Big Brother could be just a few beta versions away and we may not even
realise it.

Cheers
Ross
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In message <19980621201113124.AAA170@mail1.totacc.com>, Carol
<cmb@TOTACC.COM> writes
>Is it possible to run an HP 200 calculator program on any of the new CE
>hand held computers?  The HP 200 calculator is reason enough not to switch.
>
>Carol
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Hi :-)

I believe that the current HP360LX and 620LX are supplied or weill run
with HP Financial Calculator but I do not know how detailed they are.

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In a message dated 98-06-21 13:46:04 EDT, you write:
>
>  If you have an airbag, velcroing anything to the pod in the middle of
>  the steering wheel is a very bad idea.  At best, you would have a
>  permanent imprint of the Lx on your forehead if the airbag deployed. At
>  worst, the imprint could be seen from the back of your head!
>
I once KNEW a guy that told me he spot welds (car) gas tanks, with or
without the gas in it I don't know, never saw the guy around after that. Hmm.
The ideas some people come up with.

...but for the LX to leave an imprint on the back of your head means that
the LX will go through the head, would that get the LX all gorry?  Will the
LX still work after that?   :}   Some cyber horsing around on father's day.

Happy summer guys.
yor pal al.

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In a message dated 98-06-21 12:51:48 EDT, you write:

Hey man, yu spend time in the crotch?

yor pal al.......................

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On 06-21 03:04pm, was written-}
# Jorgen,
#
# I get Info-beat e-paper too, slick stuff... But never tried to
# use that paper in the .... oh never mind already :-) ...
#

Yah, well, looks like e-paper will never replace cornshucks in an
emergency situation...

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On 06-21 03:21pm, was written-}

# >Is it possible to run an HP 200 calculator program on any of the new CE
# >hand held computers?  The HP 200 calculator is reason enough not to switch.
# >
# >Carol

# I believe that the current HP360LX and 620LX are supplied or weill run
# with HP Financial Calculator but I do not know how detailed they are.
#
# Ross Lewis
#


Have used the Financial calculator on the 3XX machines.  I was
underwhelmed by its capabilities.  Oh, well.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:34:42 -0400
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Thanks! I got my old nameplate from Educalc too.
It was great.

 Does anyone know if Global Engraving still has
the service? Their ad is on The HP Palmtop Catalog
that came with my 200LX, but I can't find their
phone number. :-(

Thank you,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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> Yujin, I got an original name plate for my 200lx some time back, complete
> with my name very nicely engraved from EduCalc for about 10 bucks or
less.
> Unfortunately that company has gone out of business but perhaps one of
the
> other palmtop shops is worth a try - maybe Shier for example?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian C. Melville
> imelv@tstt.net.tt
>
> FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
> Trinidad, West Indies
> http://www.opus.co.tt/fma  frontline@opus.co.tt
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: MT telneting problem

In message <199806210524.WAA19301@mail.sdl.continet.com>, stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM said:
> Yes, on the LX the MT program seems to think "numlock" is active and that
> the LX arrow keys are from the numeric keypad of a standard keyboard.

Note that the latest version of mskermit (see my LXTCP web page for
details) includes a telnet command that does full vt220 emulation.

So for those with disk space available (the executable is fairly big),
then mskermit is a much better telnet option.  Note that LXTCP and GP
use the same PPPD, so it should work with either (of course LXTCP is
free and you get the source code, but GP is a much better solution for
those without much disk space).

I'm in France right now, and I use LXPOP, LXNNTP and mskermit for
complete connectivity.  I use mskermit to telnet to my work account,
and then use lynx on Unix there (lynx-2.8 can handle pretty much any
web page, including complex forms that other palmtop web browsers may
have trouble with).  Look on www.fdisk.com for lynx (there's probably a
more direct URL, but I can't think of it right now - I'll add a link to
my LXTCP web page when I find it).

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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>On comp.sys.hp48 there are a few French posters who are a bit
>chauvanistic about their language and post as often as they can in
>French instead of English.  They sometimes do this with good reason and
>often do it to make a point.  But if they have something to say that
>they want heard, they post that in English.

That is exactly what I for one would not want to see!
That would be highly impolite and should be stopped.

I haste to add, that the message that sparked off this discussion was
perfectly reasonable as it was a one-off invitation to a special group.

Jorgen


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> If you have an airbag, velcroing anything to the pod in the middle of
> the steering wheel is a very bad idea.  At best, you would have a
> permanent imprint of the Lx on your forehead if the airbag deployed. At
> worst, the imprint could be seen from the back of your head!

Alas, not a problem with my '89 Mazda - no airbags.  This car came
out in between when the law required automatic restraints and when
airbags became commonly used.  I ended up with electric seatbelts,
one of the worst inventions I've ever seen in the automotive
industry.  One time I had the sun visor rotated to the side window,
and upon opening the door, the seatbelts effortlessly removed the
visor from it's mount!  When I walked into the Mazda parts department
carrying my visor, the first words out of their mouths were "Electric
Seat Belts, right?".  Fortunately, the car was still under a three
year warranty... but this is getting waaayyyy off topic...

-Chris Lott


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On 06-21 05:47pm, was written-}
# >On comp.sys.hp48 there are a few French posters who are a bit
# >chauvanistic about their language and post as often as they can in
# >French instead of English.  They sometimes do this with good reason and
# >often do it to make a point.  But if they have something to say that
# >they want heard, they post that in English.
#
# That is exactly what I for one would not want to see!
# That would be highly impolite and should be stopped.
# I haste to add, that the message that sparked off this discussion was
# perfectly reasonable as it was a one-off invitation to a special group.
# Jorgen


Well, I won't even buy into that.  The post was to a list that is in
English.  I do not think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that
even the Spanish speakers must have a fair grasp of English or they
would not be here to begin with.  So, common courtesy would dictate
that the invitation be in the common language of the list.  Say, for
instance, "Hey, anybody interested in a Spanish/Tagalog/Swahili user
group contact so and so off the list at hphp@x.org".  Message delivered
to all interested parties; no extended conversations in a language that
excludes a majority of the list; NOBODY upset.  Seems adequate to the
task to me...

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In order to get a Sparcom Drive95 to work with a HP 200LX, does anyone know what parameters need to be added to the line "device=drive95.sys..." in the config.sys file?

Aaron

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:39:29 -0700
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> I hope no one is using their LX, or anything else, while driving.  You
> should
> keep both hands on the
> wheel and pay attention to the road.

My customer once told me how he managed to rig velcro strips
to the steering wheel, so he can attach the palmtop to the
wheel to read Compuserve messages while driving the roads of
New Hampshire! Cold shivers ran up and down my back!

When I visited him, I tore off the strips from the wheel - his
wife was standing there clapping her hands. He agreed with us
both, we liked him too much to lose him in a dumb accident!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Chris:

> Just curious about this.  If someone has this information, or a good
> educated estimate, what would be their motive for keeping it close to
> the vest?  It isn't immediately obvious how this is a competitive
> advantage - perhaps there is another reason that I haven't
> thought of?  That's entirely likely, as I'm just an engineer, and
> don't have a businessman's (or -woman's) mind...

You raise good questions. I asked one of them myself. No
answer. I did not make the "rules of engagement", my source
did.

As far as I am concerned this should have been a number
published monthly by HP, by I work for another company, not HP
:) ...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:48:38 -0000
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Wyndmail
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HM>Wyndmail is still alive and well. I use it with my 200LX and get excellent
  >service. Wynd Communications are a very  friendly group of people and have
  >HP200LX-knowledgeable technical support personnel.

I know someone else (Longden I believe?) mentioned it recently, but
again, what's the price?  And how much volume can you do for the price?
Does that include the card or must you buy it first?

Jim


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   >HM>Wyndmail is still alive and well. I use it with my 200LX and get
   >>excellent service. Wynd Communications are a very  friendly group
   >>of people and have HP200LX-knowledgeable technical support personnel.
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:11:07 +0000

   >I know someone else (Longden I believe?) mentioned it recently, but

'Twas not I.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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In-Reply-To:  <199806212321.TAA27286@web2.po.com> from "Aaron Billin" at Jun
              21, 98 07:21:57 pm
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> In order to get a Sparcom Drive95 to work with a HP 200LX,
> does anyone know what parameters need to be added to the line
> "device=drive95.sys..." in the config.sys file?

Aaron:

Better yet, does anyone know a good source of these units now
that Sparcom no longer makes them?  Surplus or used would be
of interest to me.  I recently corresponded w/Sparcom about
this drive, and was told that they are working on a replacement
product.  They didn't say whether it would have the same form/
function or not - I inquired and am awaiting their reply.

-Chris



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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:45:36 -0500
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              98 04:39:29 pm
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Avi:

> When I visited him, I tore off the strips from the wheel - his
> wife was standing there clapping her hands. He agreed with us
> both, we liked him too much to lose him in a dumb accident!

I actually envisioned using a similar arrangement for use while *parked*.
I have had occassion to use my automobile for a mini-office sometimes,
and this would have come in handy.  Juggling a cell phone, palmtop,
engineering notebook and a datasheet from the driver's seat can be quite
a challenge.  Such shennanigans are a definite no-no while en-route!

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:13:35 -0700
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WyndMail costs $59.95 for 400K of messages per month, and the modem is not
included; it must be purchased or rented separately.  (This is the 3Com
Allpoints card.)

WyndMail seems to have the best pricing of all the RAM Network internet
gateways.

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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> My customer once told me how he managed to rig velcro strips
> to the steering wheel, so he can attach the palmtop to the
> wheel to read Compuserve messages while driving the roads of
> New Hampshire! Cold shivers ran up and down my back!
> When I visited him, I tore off the strips from the wheel - his
> wife was standing there clapping her hands. He agreed with us
> both, we liked him too much to lose him in a dumb accident!

Well, I must confess: I've been known to check my radiomail from the car
on these deserted Nevada highways.

In addition...

One of my cars has a malfunctioning speedometer.  Below 35mph, it wildly
gyrates between 0 and 70mph.  So I rigged up some velcro strips on the
instrument panel right behind the steering wheel, and am anxiously
awaiting the release of some GPS software that will have a full-screen
compass / speed display... so I can use my Delorme Tripmate and my 200LX
to tell me how fast I'm really going.  :)

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> occurred to me that some properly placed velcro on the center of my
> steering wheel would hold my 200LX securely for use

(edited in the best tradition of tabloid journalism)

Chris, given Huntsville driving standards you have a death wish<g>.

Just a couple of weeks ago I saw a car set up with GPS and
moving map display on an LX. The GPS fitted in front of and obscured
the car's speedometer (but the GPS displays speed). A cable from the
GPS ran to the LX which was velcroed to the ashtray and provided the
moving map display. The driver had used it to navigate a 6 hr drive
from New Jersey to Virginia for a palmtop meeting. He admitted to a
few close calls along the way!

GaryS

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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:27:00 -0400
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Chris,

I just bought a Station 100 for 100/200LX from Sparcom
which has a standard serial port and an AC adapter jack.

Regards,
Yujin

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Avi:

> When I visited him, I tore off the strips from the wheel -
his
> wife was standing there clapping her hands. He agreed with
us
> both, we liked him too much to lose him in a dumb accident!

I actually envisioned using a similar arrangement for use while
*parked*.
I have had occassion to use my automobile for a mini-office
sometimes,
and this would have come in handy.  Juggling a cell phone,
palmtop,
engineering notebook and a datasheet from the driver's seat can
be quite
a challenge.  Such shennanigans are a definite no-no while
en-route!

-Chris

_______________________reply seperator______________

1-800-batteries sells a nice shelf you can set up in
passenger side for a mobile office. Its in their catalog.

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On 06-21 06:52am, you wrote:

> I don't know exactly what Qual-x is, but can guess from your
> brief description.  You say they removed it?  Was there a technical
> problem with it, or did it just get blasted away during an upgrade?
> Have you inquired about re-installing it?

It was blown away in an upgrade.  I was the only one on the system
using it, and the ISP didn't want to re-install it.  Let's face it,
very few people use shells anymore.

> I don't want to put words in Avi's mouth, but he and I recently
> corresponded on this very topic.  I *thought* the reason for this
> lower limit on baud rates was related to the operation of the
> ISP's equipment (how they setup various TCP/IP timeouts).  I'm
> surprised that you can get a PPP connection established at 2400
> baud with GP (which implies that your server does support this
> rate) and not with WWW/LX.  Very interesting... I'll have to
> try my ISP, and see just "how low can you go?".

Yes, the connection has been rock solid with GP at 2400 baud.  I even
sent the debug results from GP to dasoft so that they can see how
epppd makes the connection at 2400 baud.  Like I said before, I even
used to connect at 2400 baud with WWW/LX v1.0.

-David

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) EVALUATION

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HP supplies several spare nameplates in their $20 spare parts kit, and,
from my experience, you WILL need the screws and rubber feet also in the
kit.

David

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> How do I run news2 under post/lx? It says it begins to load, then =
immediat
> ely says it is disconnecting the ppp connection? By the way, this =
software
>  rocks! I still like nettamer for IRC and telnet/ftp, but for browsing
> www/lx is great!
>
This happens when there's not enough free memory. I always run www from
straight DOS and it works then.

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded gun to an idiot!"

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:46:21 -0400
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David,

Thank you very much for the feedback.
Do you know where I should send $20 to?

Thank you,
Yujin

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> HP supplies several spare nameplates in their $20 spare parts kit, and,
> from my experience, you WILL need the screws and rubber feet also in the
> kit.
>
> David

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:57:58 +0010
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Where is it possible to download the a version of Borland C++ running on the LX200?
thanx
Al
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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>
> > Instead of spending time in front of something that look like the olde >
> idiot box, I would rather be lazing by the waterfront with my 200LX and >
> doing the things most people would have to do on a desktop.
> >
> > That's quality of life.
>
> Right on. My favourite programming environment is lying back in a hammock
> with a cup of coffee (or a beer if its a really diffucult problem), working
> with my palmtop.

I'll drink to that!


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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:06:57 +0200
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Hi,

I tried lxtcp, didn't get it to work... So noe I run GP and use the shell
function to run lxnntp! Could I have a look at your wrapper? :-)

br

Franklin

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Date: 18. juni 1998 09:58
Subject: LXTCP PPP dialup/configuration made easier


>I have just thrown together a wrapper application to help configuration
>of PPP and to provide a friendlier interface for connecting.  It lets
>you toggle on/off sound, dialing, prefix, mail, news, shell, and then
>you can press the connect button and it will perform all of the tasks
>that were toggled on.

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Hi=20

I experienced the same Carousel bug that was reported on this list but =
more worryingly I have since noticed that even if I delete the SC tmp =
file and initialise the Ram disk I am still 2MB short??

I had a 4MB upgrade from NSW about a year ago ( this gave me 5MB on the =
C drive)and can now only see 3MB on my C: drive. My Swap file was 2MB =
and the ESC-ON diagnostics only reveal 3MB. I am wondering if is =
possible that one of the Rams has failed of if the rampant SC problem =
has done something more fundamental?

Any Ideas, or anyone seen anything similar?

Ralph Thomson
Now where did I put that PDA?

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:04:36 -0300
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              Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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 I'm accord 100% with you about the Going Postal.
But how did you run telnet and ftp?
Are these  built-in in the Going Postal?

Pablo KIM

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Finally, I tried Goin' Postal V2.15.  It works perfectly!  It was a
snap to setup, the interface is nice, and it's quick.  As an added
benefit, I can run MiniTelnet and an ftp client.  So far, Goin' Postal
has been rock solid.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:02:08 -0700
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>> HP supplies several spare nameplates in their $20 spare parts kit, and,
>> from my experience, you WILL need the screws and rubber feet also in the
>> kit.

>Thank you very much for the feedback.
>Do you know where I should send $20 to?

>Yujin

Yujin,

The kit that David mentioned is ordered by calling HP Direct Order Dept. at
800-227-8164. Ask to order the Palmtop Maintenance Kit, part #F1216-60998
which is $20 plus shipping.

OTOH, I've ordered that kit before and still have a spare nameplate that
you're welcome to buy for a nominal charge. Email me if you're interested.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:02:55 +0200
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hello fellow palmtoppers,

I run my 200LX from NiMh batteries and always charge them in the palmtop. =
It=27s always been a pain for me, that the palmtop gets hot and most =
annoying of all, the screen loses so much contrast that it=27s hardly =
readable.

I use a fairly primitive (although it has =22Stabilised=22 embalzoned on =
ist housing) wall-plug power supply, with a choice of output voltages.

This morning, I decided to try charging the batteies with the power supply =
set to 9v (instead of the usual 12V). Lo and behold, the batteries still =
appear to be charging (I haven=27t had a chance to download a program to =
test this theory yet) but setup/Buddy reports 2.95V main battery. Best of =
all, THE SCREEN IS FAR MORE READABLE=21=21=21 It=27s still a bit low on =
contrast, but far better.

Maybe this is of interest to some of you out there in palmtop land.

Phil


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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Thank you!  My thoughts precisely!  It seems that people have been
> "programmed" to think that DOS is hard to use or whatever.  Well, clicking

Ýstuff deleted¨

> I believe that the simple truth is that people are lazy and don't want to
> take the time and expend the effort to learn how to use a computer.  In the

In the late 70's and through the 80's I set up systems for small companies
and trained their employees to use them.

About 2 out of 3 were just unable to learn to use simple commands in any
way but by rote.  Give them a list of what they have to type and if nothing
unusual happens, they're fine.  But that was about as far as they were able
to go regardless of how much attention the got or how hard they tried.  And
a lot of them really tried very hard to learn.

Then windows came along and probably 90% learn it easily.

I prefer command lines too.  I think they're easier and they save time
and they give you more flexibility.  And I don't understand why most
people can't learn to use them.  But the simple fact is that they can't.
That's just the way it is.

Might as well argue with a thunderstorm as human nature.

Barry

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>Juggling a cell phone, palmtop, engineering notebook
>and a datasheet from the driver's seat can be quite
>a challenge.

Why not a lapdesk, or even just a board. You can attach
a clip for papers and Velcro for the phone and 200LX. Prop
it up between the steering wheel and your lap to work; toss
it on the passenger seat to drive.

Side benefit: less temptation to leave the 200LX on the
steering wheel "just in case".

S.Todd

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Thank You!

Scott

At 01:37 AM 6/22/98 EDT, you wrote:
>> How do I run news2 under post/lx? It says it begins to load, then immediat
>> ely says it is disconnecting the ppp connection? By the way, this software
>>  rocks! I still like nettamer for IRC and telnet/ftp, but for browsing
>> www/lx is great!
>>
>This happens when there's not enough free memory. I always run www from
>straight DOS and it works then.
>
>Darren.
>
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> Why not a lapdesk, or even just a board. You can attach
> a clip for papers and Velcro for the phone and 200LX. Prop
> it up between the steering wheel and your lap to work; toss
> it on the passenger seat to drive.

I like this idea.  If I continue to find myself in these
circumstances, I think I'll setup such an arrangement.

-Chris


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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Darren Frick wrote:

> The problem for me is that I retrieve my mail from this list using the
> palmtop. I have about 150k free for messages, sometimes less. Each message
> is about 2.5k.  So there's like a 60 message limit. I wouldn't want 10 or 20
> of them to be unreadable to me. When I get a RAM upgrade, then I won't mind
> just skipping them.

I think that's your problem to solve.

Barry

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I won't admit to using it while driving, but I DID lean the lx on the
steering wheel at a red light to enter a quick to-do.  Then I heard this
terrible honking and I thought I'd missed the green light, but no, still
red.  Perhaps someone didn't like me doing non-driving things at the
wheel?  No - turned out I was leaning on the steering wheel too hard and
honking myself...  Lucky the airbag didn't go off and project the lx up my
nostrils...

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:53:47 -0600
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Errrr.
How 'bout just driving so I don't have to roll out and scrape
your butt off the pavement?

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, S.Todd wrote:

> >Juggling a cell phone, palmtop, engineering notebook
> >and a datasheet from the driver's seat can be quite
> >a challenge.
>
> Why not a lapdesk, or even just a board. You can attach
> a clip for papers and Velcro for the phone and 200LX. Prop
> it up between the steering wheel and your lap to work; toss
> it on the passenger seat to drive.
>
> Side benefit: less temptation to leave the 200LX on the
> steering wheel "just in case".
>
> S.Todd
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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Jez Cunningham wrote:

> I won't admit to using it while driving, but I DID lean the lx on the
> steering wheel at a red light to enter a quick to-do.  Then I heard this
> terrible honking and I thought I'd missed the green light, but no, still
> red.  Perhaps someone didn't like me doing non-driving things at the
> wheel?  No - turned out I was leaning on the steering wheel too hard and
> honking myself...  Lucky the airbag didn't go off and project the lx up my
> nostrils...

ROFL!  I guess this is one of the hazards you face with truly mobile
computing... it may set off the horn on your steering wheel.

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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, David Becher wrote:

> > That's quality of life.
>
> Right on. My favourite programming environment is lying back in a hammock
> with a cup of coffee (or a beer if its a really diffucult problem), working
> with my palmtop. I find it much more productive than fighting with the kids
> to get to the desk top at home.

I do about 20% of my programming first thing in the morning before I get
out of bed.  I'm at my best then.  A lot of the rest is done sitting in
an easy chair at home or in a coffee shop or book store.  Or while waiting
for my meal in a restaurant.

I've done more than a little programming while standing in line at the
checkout lane at the grocery store.

Barry

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On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> My customer once told me how he managed to rig velcro strips
> to the steering wheel, so he can attach the palmtop to the
> wheel to read Compuserve messages while driving the roads of
> New Hampshire! Cold shivers ran up and down my back!

When I was young I used to read while driving.  I did that a lot.
I was always able to do that without losing track of the traffic
around me and I never had a problem of any kind as a result of this.

I wouldn't do it now because my eyesight isn't good enough and I
cant adjust to different distances easily due to lens inserts becuase
of cataract surgery.  But if that weren't the case I'm sure I'd still
be reading while I drive.

I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
can really do that for us.

Barry

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              from barrym at "Jun 22, 98 10:43:41 am"
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Heh heh, sounds like a job for Goin' Postal..

Lets see - use compression (now you've got room for, say, 90 compressed
messages instead of 60 uncompressed)

Now, enable "headers-only mode", and setup a filter..

TOSS IF SUBJECT HAS "spanish"
GET IF SIZE UNDER 25000
SKIP IF SIZE OVER 25000

There ya go... :-)

> On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Darren Frick wrote:
>
> > The problem for me is that I retrieve my mail from this list using the
> > palmtop. I have about 150k free for messages, sometimes less. Each message
> > is about 2.5k.  So there's like a 60 message limit. I wouldn't want 10 or 20
> > of them to be unreadable to me. When I get a RAM upgrade, then I won't mind
> > just skipping them.
>
> I think that's your problem to solve.
>
> Barry
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Patrick,
What is the status of this offer?
ron

> Anyway here it goes. Thought I'd give you guys first shot.

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> When I was young I used to read while driving.  I did that a lot.
> I was always able to do that without losing track of the traffic
> around me and I never had a problem of any kind as a result of this.

When I was six, I ran across the street in traffic. I did NOT do that a
lot. I was able to do that without getting struck by vehicles.

It wasn't right. It was a stupid thing to do. I learned better and stopped
doing it.

The fact that something CAN be done is no indication that it SHOULD be
done!

> I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
> can really do that for us.

Our state police are more than happy to be the judge of your abilities....

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:49:39 -0400
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Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:06:25 -0400 (EDT)

01h45m45s ago ...
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, barrym wrote:

> When I was young I used to read while driving.  I did that a lot.
> <snip...>

> I wouldn't do it now because my eyesight isn't good enough
> <snip...>

> I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
> can really do that for us.

Problem is - there's too many folks with a whole lot of (unwarranted)
confidence in their abilities.  The rest of us have to dodge 'em  8-(

We had a columnist in our local paper who was writing about cel-phones
& driving, who claimed that other people may be a menace when yakking
while driving, but he could do both BECAUSE HE COULD STEER WITH HIS
KNEES.  If this wasn't a joke I sure don't want to meet this guy on the
road!  Of course there's plenty more no-hands drivers here in Miami.

Way off topic - Sorry.

-PR
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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:42:44 -0400
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Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:04:51 -0400 (EDT)

Someone here on the list asked about 2Mb that seemed to have
disappeared from the palmtop after using SC.  Unfortunately, I deleted
it before thinking of replying...

Here's an idea.  As I recall, the post said the swap file was 2Mb.  Is
this by any chance a hidden file?  Try going to DOS, changing to the
directory that should have the swap file and do dir, /p (that's dir
followed by a comma).  This will list ALL files in the directory -
including hidden & system files.  If this shows nothing, try chkdsk /f
and see if there are any lost clusters.

-PR
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Hi,

        I recently came into possesion of a 200LX, and have great plans
for it.  I plan to put either NetTamer or WWW/LX on it (From the listing
on http://www.plamtop.net/super.html).  To do that, I'll need to get it
on the palmtop.  I have a IBM Thinkpad 760XL with an IR port and NT 4.0, and I
thought I could run Win32file.  Filer sends something to the NT so it shows
"ÝConnect¨".  But then filer times out.  I loaded the term program and
anything I type on the palmtop appears on the NT, but nothing from the NT
appears on the palmtop.

        I ran the tests (ESC-ON), and that passed but who knows.  I don't
have anything else with IR to test.  The person who gave it to me tried to
hook an external IR to his desktop and never got it to work, but I can't
take it as gospel.

        Is there anything I can do to make absolutely sure its the palmtop
and where can I get it repaired at a REASONABLE price.

                Thanks, Tuc/TTSG

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Dear Carol,

If you have to leave the 200LX fold and go to either the Pilot or Windows CE a
company who looks like they are making a decent product is

http://www.landware.com/

They make a product called Financial Consultant has some good financial
functions in addition to a solver. I stumbled on the web page when I had lost
my HP 200LX and was wondering if I should go WinCE or PalmPilot. Luckily I
found my trusty HP 200LX so I didn't have to choose.

Of course you'll have the disadvantage of not having a dedicated numeric
keypad on either machine.

If I had to give up my 200LX, I'd go Pilot. Anything larger than a 200LX is
just too large for a pocket. So far the small CE machines seem to be just as
slow as their larger counterparts (from what I've heard).

===
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Dayton, OH USA
Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth
<http://www.catholic.com/answers/other/pillar.htm>

>       Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
> Subject:
       HP 200 Calculator


>Is it possible to run an HP 200 calculator program on any of the new CE
>hand held computers?  The HP 200 calculator is reason enough not to switch.

>Carol






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Subject:      Re: My Citizen PN60i Report

> I have had a PN60 for a couple of years now.
>
> > I would have to give this thing a big "two thumbs up"!
>
> Wait until you get to the cost of consumables. The ribbons are more
> expensive than I would like especially for colour. However it can not
> be too bad as I do still have my printer. I would recommend getting the
> rechargeable battery if you do not have it - no point in being
> portable if you need AC to print.
>
> > I would think that the Shier Systems cable for the PN60 would work just fine.
>
> I would be surprised if it did not. I noticed that Chris Lott is also a
> resident of Huntsville and sent him private email. He could test my
> Shier cable with his PN60i before trying to get one from Dave.
>
> GaryS
>

The big advantage to the PN60 to me (I also own one) is that the
ribbons last forever when not being used. Every ink jet I have ever
seen will eventually dry up when sitting idle, and even unopened
cartridges have a limited shelf life. Not so for the ribbons used by
the PN60 and PN60i since they are a wax transfer medium they will
store forever as long as they don't get really hot. This is ideal for
me since I use the PN60 with my notebook when traveling, which is
infrequent at best. Otherwise, I agree that the ribbons are a little
pricey.

Pete


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Subject:      Re: : Re: XTCE

> I am usually a lurker, not a fighter, but I really cannot let this one pass!
> You are absolutely correct in that total sales figures do not have anything to
> do with actual use ... but that's really the *WINCE* machines!
>
> I have a 620LX in my drawer in the office, and an Omnigo 100 at home somewhere
> in storage. My PalmPilot (a good machine, really) has thankfully found a new
> master in my wife. I carry my 200lx EVERYWHERE! I have a slightly broken down
> 200lx in reserve and keep fighting the temptation to buy a brand-new one for
> security.
>
> Why don't I use the 620LX? It's lovely to look at, yes, but so many things I
> take for granted on the 200lx, I CANNOT do at ALL on the WINCE! Just *one*
> example: I follow the UK Premier League (never mind, MUFC, we'll be back next
> season) and chart every result through the season ... and in the off season
> now, I track the World Cup. Just show me how to GRAPH in Pocket Excel !  Black
> and white it may be, but the charts are beautiful in 123!
>
> <rant mode off, takes deep breath, in a more modulated voice> Friend Peter, you
> are absolute correct, sales figures for machines do not reveal use figures ....
> but I think that if truth be told, as a percentage, more 200lx's are being used
> than Wince's. Here in the erstwhile home of the HP Palmtop, there is an open
> secret ... more HP *employees*  use the 200lx than the Wince's. Tell you
> sumthin', don't it ...
>
> jy
> singapore
>

The fact that HP employess use the 200lx is not suprising at all. I
have been saying all along that it is a great machine for people that
can appreciate, but you are assuming that most of the people that
bought them fall into that catagory. I can't speak for your country
but in this one the 200lx was sold in mass merchandise stores next to
other PIM machines like the wizard. The majority of people that
bought them in those kinds of stores are not the kind that are big
time DOS users that will work hard and jump through hoops to squeeze
the last drop of performance from a machine like the 200lx. They ARE
the type of people that will use something for a while, get bored
with it and stick it in a closet to gather dust. They are also NOT
the type of people you will ever see on this forum, or reading a
palmtop newsgroup or magazine so they are NOT the type of people that
will even think to try and sell these machines to those who wold
appreciate them.

What facinates me about this whole discussion is that everyone seems
to assume that because the people that they have dealt with use their
200lx's alot that means every one that bought one does, or even that
some great percentage of those that bought them do. Take a minute and
think about the type of people that you are most likely to talk to
about the 200lx, people with similar interests to yourself, right? So
is it so suprising that they too might enjoy a 200lx, not at all. If
they were people that didn't think much of computers and only used
them if they had to then you probably would not be talking to them
about the 200lx or about computers at all.

This whole discussion started out because someone had to jump in and
shoot down winCE machines. I don't think winCE is great but it is
hear and it probably will be here for a long time. You might want to
read more about winCE and MS's plans for it, you might find yourself
using it on your office machine sometime in the near future, scarey
thought though it may be. Also, everyone might as well get used to
the idea that there is NEVER going to be another hp200lx, ie a small
DOS machine, so things like Ian Dean's XTCE are your best hope to
continue working the way you all want to work. The market is driver
PRIMARILY by big business and they have never had much use for small
machines like the 200lx, if they had we would have ten different
models to pick from. Look at the Toshiba Libretto, it is already
getting bigger to make it more useable from the viewpoint of big
business, and all of its competitors are already bigger than it is.
Basically, if you all want to continue with a pocket computer you had
better support people like Ian Dean who are trying to open up an
avenue for you to follow. The only pocket computers you are likely to
see in the future are glorified PIM's, you had better hope they will
do what you need.

Pete

PS. Keep all the derogitory remarks to yourselves, they just make you
look childish and I am not going to bother responding to them.
Intelligent discourse is always welcome.

Peter W. Borders

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I have had a PN60 for some time now.  The print quality is very poor.  I
have tried every adjustment the manual suggested and nothing seems to allow
consistent quality.  I saw that Mitch got near lazer jet quality and it
makes me think that I have missed a trick.  Any and all advice appreciated
on adjusting the print quality of a PN60.
thanks
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Hello, all!  My name is Mark Rosengarten, and I am a four-year HP200LX
veteran.  I have tried all the others, and didn't care for them.  i understand
that the others have their places, but my 200LX is indispensible to me.  I
bought it from Service Merchandise four years ago when it was first released.
I replace batteries after months of heavy use, including a 20 MB ATA card.  I
have used it to get online, and i currently use it as a PDA, to store poems I
have written, general notetaking, recording student information, parent
contacts and grades, gas log, reading e-texts...the uses go on and on.

I love the 200LX's keyboard...easy to use with a numeric keypad.  it is that
one feature that sets the 200LX apart from all other devices.  Yeah, embedded
keypads are OK, but kind of a pain to deal with.

They can have my 200LX when hell freezes over...and then we'll see.  Oh, and
I'm not talking about Hell, Michigan...which froze over a few years ago.

If someone gave me a Pilot, I wouldn't refuse it...but neither would I ditch
my ol' 200LX.


Mark Rosengarten
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Subject:      Re: Citizen PN60 print qualty question

> I have had a PN60 for some time now.  The print quality is very poor.  I
> have tried every adjustment the manual suggested and nothing seems to allow
> consistent quality.  I saw that Mitch got near lazer jet quality and it
> makes me think that I have missed a trick.  Any and all advice appreciated
> on adjusting the print quality of a PN60.
> thanks
> Ron
>

The two most important things are the quality of the paper and the
ribbon. Make sure you are using a slightly glossy paper, a good
quality inkjet paper is what I use. Also, the ribbon only makes one
pass so if it isn't advancing correctly you will get really bad print
quality. Check one of your used ribbons, it should have a reversed
image of the text you just printed. This test is easiest with the
black ribbon and printing straight text. There could be something
wrong with the printers ribbon advance mechanism that is causing it
to reprint over part of the ribbon. That is my best guess.

Pete


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Comments: To: Whorton@MAIL.TURCK-GLOBE.DE

On 06-22 09:02am, was written-}

# I run my 200LX from NiMh batteries and always charge them in the palmtop. It
# 's always been a pain for me, that the palmtop gets hot and most annoying of
#  all, the screen loses so much contrast that it's hardly readable.

Have you tried the old "hold down the ON key and play with the plus and
minus buttons" routine?

# I use a fairly primitive (although it has "Stabilised" embalzoned on ist hou
# sing) wall-plug power supply, with a choice of output voltages.

You gotta measure it for yourself with a meter; period.

# This morning, I decided to try charging the batteies with the power supply s
# et to 9v (instead of the usual 12V). Lo and behold, the batteries still appe
# ar to be charging (I haven't had a chance to download a program to test this
#  theory yet) but setup/Buddy reports 2.95V main battery. Best of all, THE SC
# REEN IS FAR MORE READABLE!!! It's still a bit low on contrast, but far bette
# r.
# Phil

I'll bet you a hot dog that the "12 volt" setting is some amount higher
than advertised.  The internal supply in the 200LX will function (for a
while) with input voltages outside the recommended, but it is going to
convert the "excess" voltage into heat.  This, in turn, affects the
video of the palmtop.  There should be tons more info on this in the
archives.

-
**********************************************************************
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          "Inside a dog, It's too dark to read."     G. Marx
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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:33:02 -0500
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That's just the way it is.
That's something in the  purview of aetiology or
running a tight ship but more than that doing dos
saves lots and lots of memory especially in the
hard drive.

To answer the next question before its asked,
...but we don't got gigabytes on the LX.

Yor pal al .....................

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I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.
No-one else can really do that for us.

Our state police are more than happy to be the judge of your
abilities....

There are some more immutable laws: Two things cannot
occupy the same space at the same time, like yor tush
and a boulder, or yor face and a telephone pole.
Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does.

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In message <19980622193855.20826.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>, David
Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM> writes
>Dear Carol,
>
>If you have to leave the 200LX fold and go to either the Pilot or Windows CE a
>company who looks like they are making a decent product is
>
>http://www.landware.com/
>
>They make a product called Financial Consultant has some good financial
>functions in addition to a solver. I stumbled on the web page when I had lost
>my HP 200LX and was wondering if I should go WinCE or PalmPilot. Luckily I
>found my trusty HP 200LX so I didn't have to choose.
>
>Of course you'll have the disadvantage of not having a dedicated numeric
>keypad on either machine.
>
>If I had to give up my 200LX, I'd go Pilot. Anything larger than a 200LX is
>just too large for a pocket. So far the small CE machines seem to be just as
>slow as their larger counterparts (from what I've heard).
>
>===
>Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
>Dayton, OH USA
>Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth
><http://www.catholic.com/answers/other/pillar.htm>
>
>>       Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
>> Subject:
>       HP 200 Calculator
>
>
>>Is it possible to run an HP 200 calculator program on any of the new CE
>>hand held computers?  The HP 200 calculator is reason enough not to switch.
>
>>Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I had a Pilot some time ago and rejected it as a financial (or even
numerate) machine owing to the maths error that required a software
patch. Such a flawed machine released onto the unsusopecting oublis
could simply not be relied upon for serious critical calculations. You
would need a HP200 on hand just to check the answer... ;-)

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> I am usually a lurker, not a fighter, but I really cannot let
this one pass!
> You are absolutely correct in that total sales figures do not
have anything to
> do with actual use ... but that's really the *WINCE*
machines!
>
> I have a 620LX in my drawer in the office, and an Omnigo 100
at home somewhere
> in storage. My PalmPilot (a good machine, really) has
thankfully found a new
> master in my wife. I carry my 200lx EVERYWHERE! I have a
slightly broken down
> 200lx in reserve and keep fighting the temptation to buy a
brand-new one for
> security.
>
> Why don't I use the 620LX? It's lovely to look at, yes, but
so many things I
> take for granted on the 200lx, I CANNOT do at ALL on the
WINCE! Just *one*
> example: I follow the UK Premier League (never mind, MUFC,
we'll be back next
> season) and chart every result through the season ... and in
the off season
> now, I track the World Cup. Just show me how to GRAPH in
Pocket Excel !  Black
> and white it may be, but the charts are beautiful in 123!
>
> <rant mode off, takes deep breath, in a more modulated voice>
Friend Peter, you
> are absolute correct, sales figures for machines do not
reveal use figures ....
> but I think that if truth be told, as a percentage, more
200lx's are being used
> than Wince's. Here in the erstwhile home of the HP Palmtop,
there is an open
> secret ... more HP *employees*  use the 200lx than the
Wince's. Tell you
> sumthin', don't it ...
>
> jy
> singapore
>

The fact that HP employess use the 200lx is not suprising at
all. I
have been saying all along that it is a great machine for
people that
can appreciate, but you are assuming that most of the people
that
bought them fall into that catagory. I can't speak for your
country
but in this one the 200lx was sold in mass merchandise stores
next to
other PIM machines like the wizard. The majority of people
that
bought them in those kinds of stores are not the kind that are
big
time DOS users that will work hard and jump through hoops to
squeeze
the last drop of performance from a machine like the 200lx.
They ARE
the type of people that will use something for a while, get
bored
with it and stick it in a closet to gather dust. They are also
NOT
the type of people you will ever see on this forum, or reading
a
palmtop newsgroup or magazine so they are NOT the type of
people that
will even think to try and sell these machines to those who
wold
appreciate them.

<snip all the good stuff>

______________________reply seperator________________

This holds with all PDA's not just the 200LX including the
WinCE units. But it has been my experience that instead of
putting them away in closets people that decide not to use
them give them away or sell them. (Which is bad luck for me
I'd love to find some pristine 200LX's in someones closet)

But this is all besides the point anyway I don't see any
sign of HP giving up the 200LX line.

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Hello, all!  My name is Mark Rosengarten, and I am a four-year
HP200LX
veteran.  I have tried all the others, and didn't care for
them.  i understand
that the others have their places, but my 200LX is
indispensible to me.  I
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Hello Mark

Hope you find this list interesting

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By Thursday this week, I'll post some details on our Web page
about a sale we'll be conducting. http://www.dasoft.com

Thanks.

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This morning, I decided to try charging the batteies with the
power supply set to 9v (instead of the usual 12V). Lo and
behold, the batteries still appear to be charging (I haven't
had a chance to download a program to test this theory yet) but
setup/Buddy reports 2.95V main battery. Best of all, THE SCREEN
IS FAR MORE READABLE!!! It's still a bit low on contrast, but
far better.

Maybe this is of interest to some of you out there in palmtop
land.

Phil
_________________________reply seperator___________

Phil

The best test I've found to see if your power supply is
actually putting out enough current is to start charging
the battery and then run a pcmcia modem at the same time.
If your not getting enough current then your battery will
drain. I recently changed my adapter(it never passed this
test) because even though it seemed to charge the battery
fully, the voltage would get high and the battery would
last a couple days, it never got them completely charged.

A little heat won't hurt the LX and you can bring your
display back after its faded by pressing the on key and the
* key

John
seemed to charge th

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Anybody know if there's a good programmable engineering
calculator availible for CE with graphing and a solver?

In message
<19980622193855.20826.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>, David
Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM> writes
>Dear Carol,
>
>If you have to leave the 200LX fold and go to either the Pilot
or Windows CE a
>company who looks like they are making a decent product is
>
>http://www.landware.com/
>
>They make a product called Financial Consultant has some good
financial
>functions in addition to a solver. I stumbled on the web page
when I had lost
>my HP 200LX and was wondering if I should go WinCE or
PalmPilot. Luckily I
>found my trusty HP 200LX so I didn't have to choose.
>
>Of course you'll have the disadvantage of not having a
dedicated numeric
>keypad on either machine.
>
>If I had to give up my 200LX, I'd go Pilot. Anything larger
than a 200LX is
>just too large for a pocket. So far the small CE machines seem
to be just as
>slow as their larger counterparts (from what I've heard).
>
>=3D=3D=3D
>Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
>Dayton, OH USA
>Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth
><http://www.catholic.com/answers/other/pillar.htm>
>
>>       Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
>> Subject:
>       HP 200 Calculator
>
>
>>Is it possible to run an HP 200 calculator program on any of
the new CE
>>hand held computers?  The HP 200 calculator is reason enough
not to switch.
>
>>Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I had a Pilot some time ago and rejected it as a financial (or
even
numerate) machine owing to the maths error that required a
software
patch. Such a flawed machine released onto the unsusopecting
oublis
could simply not be relied upon for serious critical
calculations. You
would need a HP200 on hand just to check the answer... ;-)

Cheers
Ross
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Subject:      Re: SC - Missing 2Mb??
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>

The normal way to do it is to use "dir /A /P", not "dir, /P".

  /P  Pauses output when screen is full.
  /A  Displays -ALL- files...
  ... and I've never seen the comma trick, although it does seem to work...
:O

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From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: SC - Missing 2Mb??
Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 2:42 PM

Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:04:51 -0400 (EDT)

Someone here on the list asked about 2Mb that seemed to have
disappeared from the palmtop after using SC.  Unfortunately, I deleted
it before thinking of replying...

Here's an idea.  As I recall, the post said the swap file was 2Mb.  Is
this by any chance a hidden file?  Try going to DOS, changing to the
directory that should have the swap file and do dir, /p (that's dir
followed by a comma).  This will list ALL files in the directory -
including hidden & system files.  If this shows nothing, try chkdsk /f
and see if there are any lost clusters.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:13:36 -0500
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> The normal way to do it is to use "dir /A /P", not "dir, /P".
>
>   /P  Pauses output when screen is full.
>   /A  Displays -ALL- files...
>   ... and I've never seen the comma trick, although it does seem to work...

Neat!  I, too, have never seen this notation (comma trick) in all my
13+ years of working with DOS.  What is the origin and/or the original
intent?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:42:11 -0400
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Alternatively, if you're hunting for a file and not sure of the location:

DIR , /S /P

from the root directory will list every file on that drive (hidden, system,
whatever). You can replace the comma to narrow the search with specifics or
wildcards like

*.sys
Ed*.com

or even a specific filename if you want to narrow the search.
Also, if you redirect this to a file or printer you can then check the total
space used for each directory and the total for all files more easily.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

P.S. /S means include subdirectories

WARNING: Bad Blazing Saddles ripoff to follow-----
Microsoft: "OK, here are your hidden files"
DOS User: "Hidden files? We don't need no hidden files!"

>From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: SC - Missing 2Mb??
>Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 2:42 PM
>
>Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:04:51 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Someone here on the list asked about 2Mb that seemed to have
>disappeared from the palmtop after using SC.  Unfortunately, I deleted it
before thinking of replying...
>
>Here's an idea.  As I recall, the post said the swap file was 2Mb.  Is
>this by any chance a hidden file?  Try going to DOS, changing to the
>directory that should have the swap file and do dir, /p (that's dir
>followed by a comma).  This will list ALL files in the directory -
>including hidden & system files.  If this shows nothing, try chkdsk /f
>and see if there are any lost clusters.

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Probably because the DOS guys at Microsoft got tired of typing

*.*

Everytime they were hunting for the hidden files Bill Gates put on their
hard drives.

BTW, next time you need to format a disk in DOS try adding

/autotest

as a command switch. Format won't ask you those really annoying questions
like "are you sure" and "do you know what you're doing!?!"
I have no clue why they made that one so long, but I still like it.

--Patrick McGouirk
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-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: SC - Missing 2Mb??


>> The normal way to do it is to use "dir /A /P", not "dir, /P".
>>
>>   /P  Pauses output when screen is full.
>>   /A  Displays -ALL- files...
>>   ... and I've never seen the comma trick, although it does seem to
work...
>
>Neat!  I, too, have never seen this notation (comma trick) in all my
>13+ years of working with DOS.  What is the origin and/or the original
>intent?
>
>-Chris Lott
>
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Subject:      Re: Driving vs. HPLX

On 06-22 11:20am, was written-}

# When I was young I used to read while driving.  I did that a lot.
# I was always able to do that without losing track of the traffic
# around me and I never had a problem of any kind as a result of this.
# I wouldn't do it now because my eyesight isn't good enough and I
# cant adjust to different distances easily due to lens inserts becuase
# of cataract surgery.  But if that weren't the case I'm sure I'd still
# be reading while I drive.
# I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
# can really do that for us.
#
# Barry


Well, the statistics show that people using cell phones are as likely
to be involved in an accident as someone driving while legally drunk.
And they don't have the additional distraction of constantly glancing
at a palmtop screen.

The problem with that kind of judgement call is you are betting other
peoples' lives that you can handle it, as well as your own.  That's
not fair to the rest of your fellow drivers; they did not have the
opportunity to agree or disaggree with being part of the consequences
if you bet wrong...
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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:25:22 -0400
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Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:49:12 -0400 (EDT)

01h35m36s ago ...
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> >   ... and I've never seen the comma trick, although it does seem to =
work...
>
> Neat!  I, too, have never seen this notation (comma trick) in all my
> 13+ years of working with DOS.  What is the origin and/or the original
> intent?

Dunno about the original intent.  I found this trick in the Palmtop
Paper - Jan/Feb 97   The tip section included some other tricks,
including  attrib, - shortcut for attrib -r -h -s -a *.*

-PR
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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:55:21 +0800
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Sigh! Ok, explanation time:
>>Keep all the derogitory <sic> remarks to yourselves,
>>they just make you look childish and I am not going
>>to bother responding to them. Intelligent discourse is
>>always welcome.
Note carefully the "<rant mode off, takes deep breath, in a more modulated
voice> Friend Peter ..." I know the remarks were shrill, they were intended to
be a *rant*. "Friend" is intended to be reconciliatory ... must everything be
spelt out? Next time you go shopping, go buy yourself a sense of humour (on the
shelves next to the PIMs).

Anyway, "you are assuming that most of the people that bought them fall into
that catagory." and you're *assuming* that most of them are not ... i'm limited
to my experience (and i do have a little) and info sources, but you are to
yours. I'll leave it at that. Nuff said!

jy

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:32:13 EST
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Subject:      Re: wince

> Sigh! Ok, explanation time:


Sorry about that, that comment wasn't aimed at you. I just get so
tired of saying something and having someone else jump up and say
"thats stupid and you are a so and so ...". I don't mind oposing
views just useless ones.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:30:23 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Driving etc...

On 06-22 01:49pm, was written-}

# Of course there's plenty more no-hands drivers here in Miami.
# -PR

Yah, takes two hands to handle a Mac-10...  <g>
Sorry, that was too good a straight line.
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Subject:      Re: XTCE

On 06-17 04:49pm, was written-}

<snip>

# This whole discussion started out because someone had to jump in and
# shoot down winCE machines. I don't think winCE is great but it is
# hear and it probably will be here for a long time. You might want to
# read more about winCE and MS's plans for it, you might find yourself
# using it on your office machine sometime in the near future, scarey
# thought though it may be. Also, everyone might as well get used to
# the idea that there is NEVER going to be another hp200lx, ie a small
# DOS machine, so things like Ian Dean's XTCE are your best hope to
# continue working the way you all want to work. The market is driver
# PRIMARILY by big business and they have never had much use for small
# machines like the 200lx, if they had we would have ten different
# models to pick from. Look at the Toshiba Libretto, it is already
# getting bigger to make it more useable from the viewpoint of big
# business, and all of its competitors are already bigger than it is.
# Basically, if you all want to continue with a pocket computer you had
# better support people like Ian Dean who are trying to open up an
# avenue for you to follow. The only pocket computers you are likely to
# see in the future are glorified PIM's, you had better hope they will
# do what you need.

# Peter W. Borders


Well, if you want to get really virulent responses, go tell a Mac user
what kind of dead end trip he's on... <g>

Anyway, what you have said is matter of opinion, as opposed to hard
data.  Peter, you honestly cannot expect anyone to agree with you or
thank you if you tell them thier kid is ugly, eh? (whether right or wrong)
This is, after all, an overwhelmingly Hp200LX oriented list, so the
focus tends to be on how to do things with it, not looking for its
replacement.

I in NO way condone derogatory remarks about someone else's reasoned
opinion, but you do seem to be on the wrong list if you feel this way
about the 200LX.  Why not converse with people who are more interested
in WinCE machines?  Think of the flame mail you will NOT get. <g>
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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:50:30 -0400
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Its interesting that people will automatically apply the
desktop use of computers to the entire world of computers.

Sure dos isn't used much anymore by businesses and
individuals on desktops (although I know quite a few people that still
use 286's and dos- my brother does, his is getting kind of
old. he keeps complaining that his disk drive gives him
errors. My sister would still be using an 8088 if it hadn't
failed on her) however in the embedded world dos is one of the
main operating systems used today. Its inexpensive and easy to
program. Dos is far from dead..

I'm sure WinCE has its place but so far I don't see any
reason to go running out and buying a new
calculator/palmtop. the new ones really hasn't done much of anything
to improve on the 200LX except add backlighting and another
pcmcia slot and shorten the battery life.
Where's the docking station to hook up an external monitor
and keyboard! (I don't want much do I!) Of course that
would make you more independant from the desktop that's the
last thing MS wants. They have to sell that NT!!!
You can't even program on the the unit plus you have to
have VB or VC++ and NT from what I've heard. From what I've
seen of the built-in apps their not as good as what I can put
on or what's already in the 200LX. Now if HP would port the
200LX apps to CE and keep the nice calculator interface
that might be worth looking into. Better yet if HP would
keep improving the 200LX, without changing the size or
battery life, that would be even better.

I'm sure someday HP will discontinue the 200LX line but so
what as long as they continue to fix them (which they
will!). But then I have a lot of faith in HP products too.
I have a HP calculator that I've used for 10 years and an
HP notebook that's about 4 years old- they last.

I've had my 200LX 2 years and all it does is become more
useful. I don't even use my laptop or desktop unless I
absolutely have to.

As for there not being a market for a dos based PDA that
all depends. I think you'll find most people that buy them
are more concerned with their useability and portability
not the operating system, The best seller on the market
is the palmpilot. Doesn't that use geos? It sure doesn't
use an MS operating system.

end rant

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Welcome, Mark.  Your dedication is entirely understandable.  LONG LIVE THE
HP200LX!

Richard Smith
http://www.enol.com/~rsmith


Mark Rosengarten wrote:

> Hello, all!  My name is Mark Rosengarten, and I am a four-year HP200LX
> veteran.  I have tried all the others, and didn't care for them.  i understand
> that the others have their places, but my 200LX is indispensible to me.  I
> bought it from Service Merchandise four years ago when it was first released.
> I replace batteries after months of heavy use, including a 20 MB ATA card.  I
> have used it to get online, and i currently use it as a PDA, to store poems I
> have written, general notetaking, recording student information, parent
> contacts and grades, gas log, reading e-texts...the uses go on and on.
>
> I love the 200LX's keyboard...easy to use with a numeric keypad.  it is that
> one feature that sets the 200LX apart from all other devices.  Yeah, embedded
> keypads are OK, but kind of a pain to deal with.
>
> They can have my 200LX when hell freezes over...and then we'll see.  Oh, and
> I'm not talking about Hell, Michigan...which froze over a few years ago.
>
> If someone gave me a Pilot, I wouldn't refuse it...but neither would I ditch
> my ol' 200LX.
>
> Mark Rosengarten
> Wallkill, NY
> isobutane@aol.com
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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:05:58 +0000
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the subject line says it all

I seem to remember a kit that you could order from HP (rubber feet.
IR cover, backup battery holder, some other stuff). But as I recall,
the kit didn't include torx screws and a torx wrench, (or is it torx
driver?).

in addition to the famous hinge crack problem, my 200lx is somehow
lost 2 rubber feet, and the torx screws fell out. My 200lx is being
held together by tape.

Any leads on HP part number for the kit, (and where to order), and/or
whet diameter and thread the screws are, and where I can by the
screws and wrench?

thanks for taking the time
Regards
Tony
Regards,
Tony
acorso@ibm.net (an ISP,- NOT ibm.com)

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Subject:      Re: driving.....

On 06-21 03:29am, was written-}

# Whew, you really started something...!!!  If they were really honest, they
# probably have "glanced" at the screen while crusing down the freeway.
# I know I have!
# Good luck!
# Cathy

Not even tempted.  I KNOW I'm mortal...
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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:18:02 -0600
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John,
FYI: the Palm Pilot has a Motorola CPU and uses its own OS - it's sort of
a sub-set of of the Mac OS.
Just so you'd know. :-)

But I see your point and it's a good one -- MS is NOT all-powerful --
thank goodness.  If the HP 200lx suddenly disappeared from the planet, I'd
go out and get a Palm Pilot!

Regards,
Richard Smith


John Musielewicz wrote:
|   The best seller on the market is the palmpilot. Doesn't that use geos?
It sure doesn't use an MS operating system.

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Is there a noticable speed difference between a machine with T2T/Thaddeus
upgrade to 8MB doublespeed and one upgraded to 32MB doublespeed?

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:38:03 -0400
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I saw a post requesting information on this subject, but I held back
because my company was not ready.  Now we are.

The company I work for, Inergy Online, offers a free (to start with)
service over the net.  You get an account with us for free, and you get a
web-based email address, word processor, contact manager, web site
designer, calculator, image capture tool and more.  The unique thing about
our offering is that is is all server-side; all you need on your side is a
web browser and internet access.  All data is stored on our systems.

The primary markets are thin clients (like WebTV and palmtops) and
on-the-go clients (like laptops and palmtops).  Sure, our amazingly-gifted
palmtops already have a calculator and word processor, but if you don't
have a lot of storage:

-Web-based email makes a lot of sense.  You can categorize your mail into
folders, forward it, view attachments, upload and download files, etc.
And whether you're at home on your Banana 2000 or visiting the relatives
in Sri Lanka, you'll see the same mail and folders.

-The word processor has built-in spell checker and thesaurus.

-You can create a web site in two different ways.  With QuickTouch, you
piece together a web page by selecting building blocks and putting them on
the page.  With QuickSite, you just choose from one of our pre-designed
templates and answer some questions, filling in the text and images as you
go along.  Both features come with an elaborate library of sounds and
images, and neither require any knowledge of HTML (although you can type
in your own HTML in QuickTouch).

The free plan, WebDesk 2000, comes with all of the applications listed
above for one year (except the word processor and scheduler, which are for
45 days) and 2MB storage.  The next plan, WebDesk Personal, is just
$US59.95 a year, and gives you back the word processor and scheduler, and
10MB storage.

The free stuff is really free.  In fact, we don't even put banner ads on
our site, on your web page, or in your email like most of our competitors.
We just hope people use our site enough to want to upgrade.  You don't
even need to give us a credit card number until you upgrade.

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Just go to http://www.inergy.com and click on the link to subscribe to
WebDesk 2000, and select the Hewlett-Packard link.  Fill in the form and
you're done!
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Coming in the next few months is the ability to view/edit Word, Excel, and
PowerPoint files as HTML in your web browser, capturing sounds and text
from the web, and template-based word processing for letters, memos, and
reports.

We're also working on email notification and text-to-speech over
telephone.

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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> ... I don't mind oposing views just useless ones.

Ah, but who decides which are useless?

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Is there a noticable speed difference between a machine with T2T/Thaddeus
> upgrade to 8MB doublespeed and one upgraded to 32MB doublespeed?

As far as speed of the RAM disk goes, yes.  The 32MB drive is about twice
as fast as the 8MB / 6MB / 5MB / 4MB / 2MB / 1MB drives.  This is largely
due to Mack's driver for the 32MB drive performing much better than the
built-in driver in the BIOS.

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Date:         Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:55:23 -0400
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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Tony Corso wrote:

> the subject line says it all
"I feel your pain".  I'm missing a screw myself, but I bought the
replacement parts kit and it came with no screws.  If anyone would be
willing to sell me one or more, I'd appreciate it.

I can't help you with the part number, but I know it was just posted the
other day.  What I can help you with is a source for the elusive T6 torx
driver.

http://www.jensentools.com/ sells several suitable tools.  One happens to
be on sale right now.  It's an 8-piece Torx set with a right-angle ratchet
handle (http://www.jensentools.com/bin/sct27a/jensen/v1/promo5.html) for
$US11.75.  There's also a 9-piece Torx set with a screwdriver-type handle
for a better grip
(http://www.jensentools.com/bin/sct27a/jensen/v1/promo5.html).


I have no association with them, but I have bought things from them in the
past.

Also keep your eye out for security Torx sets.  The securty Torx 6 (ST6)
will also fit a regurlar T6.  I bought one in a set of 8 for $6 at the MIT
Flea in Boston.

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<good stuff snipped>

>continue working the way you all want to work. The market is
driver
>PRIMARILY by big business and they have never had much use for
small
>machines like the 200lx, if they had we would have ten
different
>models to pick from. Look at the Toshiba Libretto, it is

Actually I don't think the pocket organiser market is
driven by big business. Big business buys their people
laptops or cell phones or pagers with built-in pims.
How many people here got their 200LX through their company?
Now they might try to make the organizer attractive to
business people like HP did by adding ccmail, lotus.
The smaller stuff is consumer oriented. There's
always been plenty availible. Tandy, Sharp, HP, IBM to name
a few.

What annoyes me is that I've never really liked any
computer I've owned until I got the 200LX and now HP might
be dropping the line. First computer I've owned with
nothing MS about besides the operating system (of course HP
couldn't use PC Dos!) and I really like it. No bugs.
I really think its a mistake on HP's
part. With  a few improvements it would be just as
competitive as anything availible now. I wonder if HP is
thinking about dropping the entire calculator division. Can
you imagine not being able to buy an HP calculator? TI-
yuk!

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Hmm...
I _did_ get replacement screws with my HP palmtop parts kit.  If you
ordered one and didn't get any, maybe you can give 'em a call and they'll
send you some.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:45:43 -0400
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>The company I work for, Inergy Online, offers a free (to start with)

>service over the net.  You get an account with us for free, and you get a

>web-based email address, word processor, contact manager, web site

>designer, calculator, image capture tool and more.  The unique thing about

>our offering is that is is all server-side; all you need on your side is a

>web browser and internet access.  All data is stored on our systems.


Hey, now THAT is slick!  I'm a little curious, actually, if this service runs off the boxes we have here in the datacenter running under what marketing calls 'colocated service', where we host the machine, give it a pipe to the net, run the backups, etc...  Anyhow, we've got a number of machines from Inergy, and I think maybe we host the whole site.  Just a little bit of 'small world' syndrome.

        James

James Scheffler

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</bigger></bigger></bigger></color>BBN Internetworking

Data Center

10 Moulton Street, 6/108

Cambridge, MA 02140

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>thought I could run Win32file.  Filer sends something to the NT
>so it shows
>"ÝConnect¨".  But then filer times out.  I loaded the term


Whats Win32file? Do you have the baud rate set the same on
both machines?

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:22:08 -0400
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I bought my Torx drivers (T6, T8, etc) at Sears last Summer. They're
available in each of the three local Sears in my area.

Dave
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: Torx screws, Torx wrenches, and those little rubber feet


>On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Tony Corso wrote:
>
>> the subject line says it all
>"I feel your pain".  I'm missing a screw myself, but I bought the
>replacement parts kit and it came with no screws.  If anyone would be
>willing to sell me one or more, I'd appreciate it.
>
>I can't help you with the part number, but I know it was just posted the
>other day.  What I can help you with is a source for the elusive T6 torx
>driver.
>
>http://www.jensentools.com/ sells several suitable tools.  One happens to
>be on sale right now.  It's an 8-piece Torx set with a right-angle ratchet
>handle (http://www.jensentools.com/bin/sct27a/jensen/v1/promo5.html) for
>$US11.75.  There's also a 9-piece Torx set with a screwdriver-type handle
>for a better grip
>(http://www.jensentools.com/bin/sct27a/jensen/v1/promo5.html).
>
>
>I have no association with them, but I have bought things from them in the
>past.
>
>Also keep your eye out for security Torx sets.  The securty Torx 6 (ST6)
>will also fit a regurlar T6.  I bought one in a set of 8 for $6 at the MIT
>Flea in Boston.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
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>DK KD                                  http://start.at/david.kramer
>DKK D
>DK KD
>DDDD   "Oh my god, they killed Kenny G.!"
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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:13:50 EDT, Mark Rosengarten wrote:

>Hello, all!  My name is Mark Rosengarten, and I am a four-year HP200LX
>veteran.

Welcome, but surely I recognise your name. Did you post in
comp.sys.palmtops before this list got set up?

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:30:24 EDT
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> Hi,
>
>         I recently came into possesion of a 200LX, and have great plans
> for it.  I plan to put either NetTamer or WWW/LX on it (From the =
listing
> on http://www.plamtop.net/super.html).  To do that, I'll need to get it
> on the palmtop.  I have a IBM Thinkpad 760XL with an IR port and NT =
4.0, a
 I
> thought I could run Win32file.  Filer sends something to the NT so it =
show
> "ÝConnect¨".  But then filer times out.  I loaded the term program and
> anything I type on the palmtop appears on the NT, but nothing from the =
NT
> appears on the palmtop.
>
>         I ran the tests (ESC-ON), and that passed but who knows.  I =
don't
> have anything else with IR to test.  The person who gave it to me tried =
to
> hook an external IR to his desktop and never got it to work, but I =
can't
> take it as gospel.
>
>         Is there anything I can do to make absolutely sure its the =
palmtop
> and where can I get it repaired at a REASONABLE price.
>
>                 Thanks, Tuc/TTSG

That's pretty good that you got this far, I was not aware that NT 4.0
supported IR. Check the registry to see if NT is using IRdA or regular
serial. Should be serial.

On the 200lx side just to see if the port is receiveing ok,
you could D/L a program called Remcom from the S.U.P.E.R
site which is a learning remote control program - a must-have anyway. Of
course you'd have to get that onto the palmtop, but you could send it =
with
regular modems and term progs. Hope that helps.

Darren.


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Hello All,

This is to thank Clyde Best and Quinton Jones Jr for their help with
my flash card incompatibility problem.  Courtesy of the latter, the
problem was recognised as the presence of the speed upgrade on my
100LX necessitating a newer driver plus a special switch.  I am
delighted and relieved to say that once properly installed, everything
was up and running immediately.

Thanks are also due to the Mailing List for making such dialogue
possible.

Regards,

Barry Collins
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> designer, calculator, image capture tool and more.  The unique thing about
> our offering is that is is all server-side; all you need on your side is a
> web browser and internet access.
How does your image capture tool manage this?


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At 07:05 PM 6/23/98 +1000, you wrote:

>> designer, calculator, image capture tool and more.  The unique thing about

>> our offering is that is is all server-side; all you need on your side is a

>> web browser and internet access.

>How does your image capture tool manage this?

I'm guessing here, but how I would do it, were I designing the webpage, would be something like, you surf on in to the place you want to capture, through a frame from inergy's site, and then click on a button... and it captures the page as a jpg image or something.  Maybe I'm way off.

James Scheffler

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> but you do seem to be on the wrong list if you feel this way
> about the 200LX.  Why not converse with people who are more interested
> in WinCE machines?
Oh dear, for a moment there I thought we were headed for some
rational, balanced discussion. Whew!!

And by the way, DOS *will* rise again!

All those windows users will wake up one day in a cold sweat, screaming
        "Oh my God, what have I done? All those productive years, wasted!
        On setting background patterns and rearranging icons... all that
        lost data... all that investment in hardware outdated 6 months
        later... Arrrggggghhhhh!!"
Then suddenly, their faces contorted in agony and self-loathing
relax into beatific smiles, as they realise that they have a hp200lx
in the closet! Ý1¨

"After 5 years," they think as one, "still the best computer in the world!"

They rush to their desktop, and try the "5 feet drop onto concrete" test.
All fail, but the hp200lx is unscathed! Ý2¨ To those very few habouring
minor doubts in the corner of their minds, this is absolute proof.

Crank, crank. But it's good enough for me.

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Telephone +61 03  9905 5194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
Ý1¨. NB they +all+ have one.
Ý2¨. some of the desktops require multiple tests.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:40:18 +0200
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Does this offer something SPECIAL to us hp palmtoppers?  Like the ability
to compose messages offline in the cc:mail application?
Jez

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In a message dated 98-06-23 02:48:14 EDT, you write:

> Welcome, but surely I recognise your name. Did you post in
>  comp.sys.palmtops before this list got set up?
>

Oh, yes...and comp.sys.handhelds, and the other HP newsgroup.  I have spent
some time there spouting my praises of the best handheld that the world has
yet devised.

Amazing, isn't it?  Four years later, this same device remains robust and
current while others have been born, withered and died.  Only the Psion and
Pilot can claim almost as much success...the Newton is dead, ain't it?


Mark

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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:55:23 -0400, David Kramer <Dskramer@concentric.net>=
 wrote:


> I can't help you with the part number, but I know it was just posted =
the
> other day.  What I can help you with is a source for the elusive T6 =
torx
> driver.

You can also get the T6 at you local Sears Hardware for $3.99.

Its a:
Professional
T6x1/2 USA 41551


Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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> Does this offer something SPECIAL to us hp palmtoppers?  Like the ability
> to compose messages offline in the cc:mail application?
> Jez

Trop bon, je n'ai pas rigole comme ca depuis un moment.
J'etais un peux crispe ces jours ci (par le froid).
salutation

Translation from  spanish to english:
Well, I laugh
regards
Alain


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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I found the right place in HP (UK) and they will to Return-to-Base =
(RTB)
repair for =A3 180 +VAT (17.5% tax).  It then gets 6 months warranty.

I guess what this means is that this much money covers the cost of =
providing
a reconditioned unit as replacement if they can't fix it.

I have to say I find it almost incredible that a computer made in 1994 =
can :

1.      Be repaired by the manufacturer still.
2.      Cost less to repair than to buy secondhand (if you can find one)

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> Trop bon, je n'ai pas rigole comme ca depuis un moment.
> J'etais un peux crispe ces jours ci (par le froid).
> salutation
>
> Translation from  spanish to english:
And I thought it was French! What a waste those lessons were!

> Well, I laugh
> regards
> Alain
PS Alain, did you ever know someone named Jane Holden?


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>
> I seem to remember a kit that you could order from HP (rubber feet.
> IR cover, backup battery holder, some other stuff). But as I recall,
> the kit didn't include torx screws and a torx wrench, (or is it torx
> driver?).

> Any leads on HP part number for the kit, (and where to order)

I was the one that posted the info a few days ago, so here it is again,

The kit is ordered by calling HP Direct Order Dept. at 800-227-8164. Ask to
order the Palmtop Maintenance Kit, part #F1216-60998 which is $20 plus
shipping.

- Longden

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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
> > can really do that for us.
>
> Our state police are more than happy to be the judge of your abilities....

I was always able to watch for the police at the same time.

I did this for years.  Never a ticket or a problem.

Nowadays I listen to books on tape.  Usually I use the car's cassette
player, which is perfectly legal.  But if I'm going in and out of the
car a lot I'll put on in-the-ear headphones and listen.  Not so legal
on the theory that it makes it difficult to hear sirens.  In fact it's
easier to hear sirens with these on than with the tape in the car's
player.

For what it's worth, I've been driving for 41 years, and, not counting
the first year, when I drove pretty wildly, I haven't had an accident or
a ticket.  Rarely even a near miss.

Barry

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The following is nothing more than my opinon...

I find the recent discussion with regard to WinCE vs HPLX interesting. My
personal opinion is the HPLX represents a computer configuration that has an
effective amuont of computational power in a portable form factor. The WinCE
units don't meet either configuration, and suffer a large amount of "Lost
Heritage" by not directly supporting DOS. Fourier Transforms or other high
powered calcs on the HPLX - it could do them, but why bother when a 300 MHz
Pentium will do them so much faster? Note that I would probably _still_ use DOS
on the 300 MHz Pentium - the performance overhead of Windows doesn't support
its "improvement" in the interface for me. When I look at the applications that
I use the most they are ccMail (WinCE could probably do this better), Database
(HPLX wins hands down), PIM (This one is probably a matter of taste), 123 vs
Pocket Excel(draw as far as I am concerned), Quicken DOS (Probably a draw, but
I have 3 years of DOS data and am happy with the setup), and Infoselect (No
comparable product for CE). The HPLX is just a lot more useful for me. I don't
use TurboC, Forth, or  Calculus Computer a lot, but do use them occasionally
and have them with me wherever I go.

I guess the funniest thing about this is - This is a HPLX forum. What good can
it possibly serve to say "WinCE is better than HPLZ, nyah, nyah, nhyah" on this
forum? The poeple who get this forum obviously have made the choice, and if
they decide to change, they will monitor a WinCE group for a while to see if it
is worth their while. That is what I did a while back, and clearly saw that for
what I use the palmtop for, the HPLX provides a clear advantage over WinCE
systems.

Brian

"Idealism increases in direct proportion to one's distance from the problem."
-John Galsworthy

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>From:    John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
>Subject: Re: HP 200 Calculator

>Anybody know if there's a good programmable engineering
>calculator availible for CE with graphing and a solver?


I don't know of a programmable calculator for WinCE, but there is a file
available on the major download boards (SIMTEL, etc.) called Calculus Computer
that works very well for everything the HP Solver can't do on the 200LX.

I believe the file is called CC4_9206.zip. I use it on my laptop as well. It is
a very easy to learn and useful program. I recommend it highly.


Brian

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I tried this but I didn't see the original post.  I can't see any difference
using the comma.  What am I missing?

Barry

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> > The normal way to do it is to use "dir /A /P", not "dir, /P".
> >
> >   /P  Pauses output when screen is full.
> >   /A  Displays -ALL- files...
> >   ... and I've never seen the comma trick, although it does seem to work...
>
> Neat!  I, too, have never seen this notation (comma trick) in all my
> 13+ years of working with DOS.  What is the origin and/or the original
> intent?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
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> "WinCE is better than HPLZ, nyah, nyah, nhyah"
um, has anyone actually said anything like this? Or have they just
said that the masses choose WinCE?

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> Well, the statistics show that people using cell phones are as likely
> to be involved in an accident as someone driving while legally drunk.
> And they don't have the additional distraction of constantly glancing
> at a palmtop screen.
>
> The problem with that kind of judgement call is you are betting other
> peoples' lives that you can handle it, as well as your own.  That's
> not fair to the rest of your fellow drivers; they did not have the
> opportunity to agree or disaggree with being part of the consequences
> if you bet wrong...

We make that bet every time we get in a car.  We assume that we can
handle our part safely and hope the next guy can.  Some can't handle
the chore of driving that well but we don't call that unfair.

Anyway, I'm long past the ability to do that and I know it so I don't
do it now.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:43:07 -0400
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You can also use a comma with the ATTRIB command; in that case it means=
 turn
off all Attributes.
I wonder what other DOS commands accept a comma argument?

Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:58:35 -0400
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Borders wrote:

 > What facinates me about this whole discussion is that everyone seems
 > to assume that because the people that they have dealt with use their
 > 200lx's alot that means every one that bought one does, or even that
 > some great percentage of those that bought them do.

What fascinates me is that you think you have proof that says otherwise.
The so called anecdotal proof that 200LXers give is no less valid than the
hand-waving arguments you give.

 > This whole discussion started out because someone had to jump in and
 > shoot down winCE machines.

It may have started that way, but it didn't get hot until you claimed that
there were less than 10,000 200LX users left, which has been proven wrong
here by others.  You just won't accept it.  I would say, enough.   You're
not convincing anyone here of the merits of CE marketing.  And we agree you
can't be convinced of the superiority of the 200LX.  Let's leave it at that
and save some bandwidth for better threads.

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Isobutane!  Welcome.  I've seen you on the newsgroups for years, and always
wondered where you went.  Great to have you here!

Everyone, Isobutane is a long time 200LX friend.  Let's give him a hearty
welcome.  And a moratorium on fights for the next week, as to put our best
foot forward. :)

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, James Scheffler wrote:

> Hey, now THAT is slick!  I'm a little curious, actually, if this service
> runs off the boxes we have here in the datacenter running under what
> marketing calls 'colocated service', where we host the machine, give it
> a pipe to the net, run the backups, etc...  Anyhow, we've got a number
> of machines from Inergy, and I think maybe we host the whole site.  Just
> a little bit of 'small world' syndrome.

Yes, that's them.  We colocate our live servers because we couldn't get
anyone to guarantee the availability of BBN. Our development machines are
in-house.  Now I know who to call when we need work done on it ;)  Expect
another two machines to show up soon.

By the way, I'm not a marketing dude; I'm the Project Manager, in charge
of the Sotware Engineers and Graphics Designers.


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Steve,

> Heh heh, sounds like a job for Goin' Postal..
>
> Lets see - use compression (now you've got room for, say, 90 compressed
> messages instead of 60 uncompressed)
>
> Now, enable "headers-only mode", and setup a filter..
>
> TOSS IF SUBJECT HAS "spanish"
> GET IF SIZE UNDER 25000
> SKIP IF SIZE OVER 25000

Great stuff! Where did you get that? :)

WWW/LX Plus does the same stuff, BTW... :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> All those windows users will wake up one day in a cold sweat, screaming

CNN did a thing about the future of Microsoft a week or 2 ago and one
interesting thing a number of people had to say was that Windows would
probably be out of our lives in a year or 2 or 3.  That OS's would be
replaced by the internet as far as we were aware, and that our software
would be subscribed to over the internet.

If that's true, there will still be a lot of old dos computers around.
Probably a lot of old windows computers, too.  But I don't think windows
will have the devotees that dos has.  So dos might very well outlive
windows.  Especially among hobbiests and experimenters.

There's still a lot of activity among CP/M users and TRS-80 users and
Model 100 users.  Comp.sys.sinclair is a very active newsgroup, as are
the Atari and Apple newsgroups.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:10:29 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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> I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
> > can really do that for us.
>
> Our state police are more than happy to be the judge of your
abilities....

I was always able to watch for the police at the same time.

I did this for years.  Never a ticket or a problem.

Nowadays I listen to books on tape.  Usually I use the car's cassette
player, which is perfectly legal.  But if I'm going in and out of the
car a lot I'll put on in-the-ear headphones and listen.  Not so legal
on the theory that it makes it difficult to hear sirens.  In fact it's
easier to hear sirens with these on than with the tape in the car's
player.

For what it's worth, I've been driving for 41 years, and, not counting
the first year, when I drove pretty wildly, I haven't had an accident or
a ticket.  Rarely even a near miss.

Barry

It ain't worth much
to brag about how dumb you are.
How many accidents did you cause?

We make that bet every time we get in a car.  We assume that we can
handle our part safely and hope the next guy can.  Some can't handle
the chore of driving that well but we don't call that unfair.

While abilities do differ in degrees, they are all surpose to be above
a certain level of competentcy for which driving tests are givien. While
some people are at the bare minimum level, we don't want to retard them
below that level by excusing them for reading or drinking behind the
wheel.

>Anyway, I'm long past the ability to do that and I know it so I don't
do it now.

I din't want to reply to your comment but there were so many of them.  Yu
seem to want to justify yor stupidity and make it seem ok for other
teenage dummies to try it too as a growing up rite. If yor a dummy, why
advertise the fact?

al .....................

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:30:48 -0400
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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, James Scheffler wrote:

> >How does your image capture tool manage this?

> I'm guessing here, but how I would do it, were I designing the webpage,
> would be something like, you surf on in to the place you want to
> capture, through a frame from inergy's site, and then click on a
> button... and it captures the page as a jpg image or something.  Maybe
> I'm way off.

You type in the URL of the site with the images you want.  We then present
a screen with all of the images from that page , and you check off which
ones you want to save in your file manager on our server.  Then they're
available for you to put on your web page or send as an email attachment.

The next version of the capture tool should support frames in the way you
mention above, and allow the capture of sounds.  The version after that
will support the capture of text (on WebTV units and other clients, you
don't have cut and paste).

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Anyone in Paris or Brussels areas interested in an Amiga 500 - with a whole
meg of RAM, second floppy-disk-drive, dot-matrix-printer, joysticks, etc.
Will trade for anything that might interest an lx palmtopper... especially
that green* folding stuff.

Jez

(* or other colours/colors depending on your economic area of interest)
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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, someone wrote, among other things:

There's still a lot of activity among CP/M users and TRS-80 users and
Model 100 users.  Comp.sys.sinclair is a very active newsgroup, as are
the Atari and Apple newsgroups.

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Jez Cunningham wrote:

> Does this offer something SPECIAL to us hp palmtoppers?  Like the ability
> to compose messages offline in the cc:mail application?
> Jez

We're currently beta testing email import/export for the Palm Pilot, but
we're dedicated to supporting other formats.  I would be interested in
hearing other desired formats, and any technical data on that format.

I don't think the CC:mail format is public knowledge, is it?  If it is, it
should be easy enough to write an import/expor tfor it.  Any pointers,
anyone?

What about the WWW/LX folks and GP folks?  Are their mail formats public
knowledge?  We can write modules for them, too.  Once the basic
import/export is written, it should be no big deal to support as
many formats as we want.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:43:28 -0400
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>> Hey, now THAT is slick!  I'm a little curious, actually, if this service
>> runs off the boxes we have here in the datacenter running under what
>> marketing calls 'colocated service', where we host the machine, give it
>> a pipe to the net, run the backups, etc...  Anyhow, we've got a number
>> of machines from Inergy, and I think maybe we host the whole site.  Just
>> a little bit of 'small world' syndrome.
>
>Yes, that's them.  We colocate our live servers because we couldn't get
>anyone to guarantee the availability of BBN. Our development machines are
>in-house.  Now I know who to call when we need work done on it ;)  Expect
>another two machines to show up soon.
>
>By the way, I'm not a marketing dude; I'm the Project Manager, in charge
>of the Sotware Engineers and Graphics Designers.

Yah, well, if the bad boy goes down, you've probably got our number in the
WHOC. ;)  Out of idle curiousity and because i needed something to do, I
made sure everything was cabled properly. ;)

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Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:42:43 -0400 (EDT)

01h25m33s ago ...
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, barrym wrote:

> I tried this but I didn't see the original post.  I can't see any =
difference
> using the comma.  What am I missing?

If there aren't any hidden or system files in the directory, it makes
no difference.  The dir, trick was in PTP about a year & a half ago.
It does the same thing as dir /a (but only in the current directory)
It's a shortcut for "list ALL files"

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>
> >thought I could run Win32file.  Filer sends something to the NT
> >so it shows
> >"ÝConnect¨".  But then filer times out.  I loaded the term
>
>
> Whats Win32file? Do you have the baud rate set the same on
> both machines?
>
        Check out http://www.palmtop.net/super.html .  It lets my
NT machine talk via "Filer" to the palm top.  Yes, bauds were the
same, otherwise I don't think I'd be able to get characters from the
palmtop to be seen correctly on the NT machine (In Datacomm)

                        Tuc/TTSG

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>
> > Hi,
> >
> >         I recently came into possesion of a 200LX, and have great plans
> > for it.  I plan to put either NetTamer or WWW/LX on it (From the =
> listing
> > on http://www.plamtop.net/super.html).  To do that, I'll need to get it
> > on the palmtop.  I have a IBM Thinkpad 760XL with an IR port and NT =
> 4.0, a
>  I
> > thought I could run Win32file.  Filer sends something to the NT so it =
> show
> > "ÝConnect¨".  But then filer times out.  I loaded the term program and
> > anything I type on the palmtop appears on the NT, but nothing from the =
> NT
> > appears on the palmtop.
> >
> >         I ran the tests (ESC-ON), and that passed but who knows.  I =
> don't
> > have anything else with IR to test.  The person who gave it to me tried =
> to
> > hook an external IR to his desktop and never got it to work, but I =
> can't
> > take it as gospel.
> >
> >         Is there anything I can do to make absolutely sure its the =
> palmtop
> > and where can I get it repaired at a REASONABLE price.
> >
> >                 Thanks, Tuc/TTSG
>
> That's pretty good that you got this far, I was not aware that NT 4.0
> supported IR. Check the registry to see if NT is using IRdA or regular
> serial. Should be serial.
>
        I have the option of either. Its set as serial.
>
> On the 200lx side just to see if the port is receiveing ok,
> you could D/L a program called Remcom from the S.U.P.E.R
> site which is a learning remote control program - a must-have anyway. Of
> course you'd have to get that onto the palmtop, but you could send it =
> with
> regular modems and term progs. Hope that helps.
>
        I'll do that and let everyone know.

                        Thanks, Tuc/TTSG

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> If there aren't any hidden or system files in the directory, it makes no
> difference.  The dir, trick was in PTP about a year & a half ago.  It
> does the same thing as dir /a (but only in the current directory)  It's
> a shortcut for "list ALL files"

Just in case anybody has a burning desire to try this out, the comma trick
doesn't seem to work in Windows 98.

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Subject:      CCMail formats (Was: New service available)

In message <Pine.SUN.3.96.980623103201.16473F-100000@viking.cris.com>, Dskramer@concentric.net said:
> I don't think the CC:mail format is public knowledge, is it?  If it is, it
> should be easy enough to write an import/expor tfor it.  Any pointers,
> anyone?

I once thought about writing a converter for LXTCP to the internal
ccmail format.  I asked if anyone knew the format, and got a reply
from someone that I won't name that if I did this, then Lotus would
probably sue me (a partner of theirs had been sued by another company
for a similar reason not relating to Lotus).

I dropped the project (the formats are fairly easy to decode, but I
don't feel it's worth the potential legal hassle).  If someone gets
Lotus to put the palmtop format into the public domain, then I would
very quickly whip up a ccmail output format for LXPOP, and provide the
drivers to use ccmail with standard pop and nntp servers.

> What about the WWW/LX folks and GP folks?  Are their mail formats public
> knowledge?  We can write modules for them, too.  Once the basic
> import/export is written, it should be no big deal to support as
> many formats as we want.

The file formats for LXPOP, LXNNTP and PNR version 2.X are the
standard internet RFC message formats.

I wonder why none of the other palmtop connectivity suppliers use the
standard Internet message formats ?

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<< I tried this but I didn't see the original post. >>

Can you please list again....where do you put the comma?  I didn't get it
either!

Cathy

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> > I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
> > > can really do that for us.
> >
> > Our state police are more than happy to be the judge of your
> abilities....
>
> I was always able to watch for the police at the same time.
>
> I did this for years.  Never a ticket or a problem.

Gee!

Wow!

I guess that makes it GOOD and RIGHT!

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Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:34:13 -0400 (EDT)

27m41s ago ...
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> Can you please list again....where do you put the comma?  I didn't get =
it
> either!

Hi Cathy-

The comma is right after dir - (dir,)  This just works in the current
directory as a shortcut "list all files" command. Pretty much the same
as dir /a

The more useful shortcut, from the same issue of PTP is attrib,
(attrib-comma) This is a quick "clear all attributes" command.  Same as
attrib -s -h -r -a *.*


HTH

-Peniel
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> I wonder why none of the other palmtop connectivity suppliers use the
> standard Internet message formats ?

Well, the standard RFC-822 Internet message format isn't a storage
definition.  GP keeps messsages in RFC-822 format just like it receives
them, but it puts the message into a file with a record format and
optional compression.  Even Unix keeps messages in RFC-822 form, but
puts them in a file with a rather lousy record seperator.

So, I think you're confusing the message format with the mechanism
used to hold the message.  Or, were you talking about a different
standard than RFC-822 and I misread?

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > > I guess we each have to be the judge of our own abilties.  No-one else
> > > > can really do that for us.
> > >
> > > Our state police are more than happy to be the judge of your
> > abilities....
> >
> > I was always able to watch for the police at the same time.
> >
> > I did this for years.  Never a ticket or a problem.
>
> Gee!
>
> Wow!
>
> I guess that makes it GOOD and RIGHT!

I guess it makes it possibly for some to drive that way without any
problems or accidents. Personally I don't see what people get so upset
about. Quite clearly he was able to handle the way he drove or he would've
had accidents.

It is true that he should not encourage others to drive that way because
not everyone can handle it, but that was never the case.


Oh well.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:30:20 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> So, I think you're confusing the message format with the mechanism
> used to hold the message.  Or, were you talking about a different
> standard than RFC-822 and I misread?

I wasn't aware that there even *was* a standard for *storage* of
internet e-mail messages.  If so, I'd very much like to learn of it.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:46:00 -0600
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With a little help from two newgroups and an email list I have gotten
a Pocket Packet radio on the air. 200LX into a Tigertronics BP-2 into an
ADI AT-600. Running BayCom software works like a charm!

Now - does anyone know of a .exm version of a packet client?
Has anyone hosted FBBS on a 200LX?
geeee - how 'bout a 200LX Packet email list??? 8)

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:41:42 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Comments: To: rclott@RO.COM
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> > So, I think you're confusing the message format with the mechanism
> > used to hold the message.  Or, were you talking about a different
> > standard than RFC-822 and I misread?
>
> I wasn't aware that there even *was* a standard for *storage* of
> internet e-mail messages.  If so, I'd very much like to learn of it.

Then I guess I misunderstood your initial message.  You wondered why
other packages (and I assumed WWW/LX and GP were included) don't
store messages in the Internet standard message format.  I assumed
that meant RFC-822.  GP *does* keep messages in RFC-822 format, but
each message is tucked away inside a record structure with optional
compression and that record format is not standard (since there's
not really a standard for that as you said).

Well, there are some defacto standards.  One is the folder format
in Unix, which sucks.  Basicly, each message is delimited by a
line of the form "From xxxxx date".  Needless to say, you need to make
sure that messages you add to the file don't have any lines in the
message itself that start with "From ".  I do this in GPX - I extract
the messages into a Unix-compatible folder and munge any line I see
that starts with "From " (yuck)

Say, you found any WATTCP hangouts?  I know there's the main WATTCP
page, but I've been looking for a more active page/list where us
WATTCP geeks can trade fixes and advice. :-)

Erick is having trouble finding his original docs, as soon as he
finds them or I pick a scanner I want then I get to start on a revamp
of the programmers guide for him.  Kindof looking forward to that (I
know, the programmers at work hate me too for doing documentation - they
say I set a bad precident) <g>

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In a message dated 98-06-23 09:53:10 EDT, hplx@comports.com writes:

> Isobutane!  Welcome.  I've seen you on the newsgroups for years, and always
>  wondered where you went.  Great to have you here!

Thanks!  I wondered why I missed this.  :)

>  Everyone, Isobutane is a long time 200LX friend.  Let's give him a hearty
>  welcome.  And a moratorium on fights for the next week, as to put our best
>  foot forward. :)

Much obleeged.  Discussions are great, but arguments make me yawn.  :)

Mark

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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.980623201441.25752B-100000@hler.diku.dk> from
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> I guess it makes it possibly for some to drive that way without any
> problems or accidents. Personally I don't see what people get so upset
> about. Quite clearly he was able to handle the way he drove or he would've
> had accidents.

Oh man, I've tried not to get sucked into this but here goes (looking
over his shoulder for rabid Oregon natives coming to dish out a little
payback) <g>

I moved from Southern California to Oregon (near Eugene/Springfield).  I
have to say I've never appreciated how a So Cal. driver can manage to
juggle their cellphone, daytimer, Big Mac and a large coke simultaneously
(in a stickshift) while driving 75mph yet staying out of accidents till
moving here. It's quite a culture shock to see someone paying complete
attention to getting on a relatively light freeway, both hands on the
wheel, eyes focused, and slowing down to a near stop as they "merge"! Ack!

(I can hear my fellow Oregonians lighting the torches already) :-)

Ok, all you other Oregonians - admit it, it's true here, right?  Half
the population is ex-Californians playing Pole Position - the other half
are native Oregonians wanting their quiet freeways back...

(BTW - I never juggled all that (well, maybe a Big Mac) and in my time
here I've gone from a frenzied 75mph+ speed junkie to a 65 (and nearly
55 around Eugene) happy Oregonian who dreads the occasional rental car
in Orange County.  (I think I still merge ok though) :-)

<too bad asbestos is a no-no now, I have a feeling I could use
some real soon>  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:23:24 -0700
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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Oh man, I've tried not to get sucked into this but here goes (looking
> over his shoulder for rabid Oregon natives coming to dish out a little
> payback) <g>

ARRRRRRR!  My dad was born in Corvallis... you're going DOWN, sucker!

(Okay, other than this vague genetic link, I have no connection to Oregon,
so you have nothing to fear from me.)

> I moved from Southern California to Oregon (near Eugene/Springfield).  I
> have to say I've never appreciated how a So Cal. driver can manage to
> juggle their cellphone, daytimer, Big Mac and a large coke simultaneously
> (in a stickshift) while driving 75mph yet staying out of accidents till

Well, of COURSE it's in a stickshift.  That's where you set the Big Mac
when you're dialing the phone and scribbling in the daytimer.

> (BTW - I never juggled all that (well, maybe a Big Mac) and in my time
> here I've gone from a frenzied 75mph+ speed junkie to a 65 (and nearly
> 55 around Eugene) happy Oregonian who dreads the occasional rental car
> in Orange County.  (I think I still merge ok though) :-)

That's odd... here in Nevada, we've gone from a speed limit of 55 on the
freeways, to 65 in the cities and 75 on the open highways.  Utah, too.
Arizon still seems to be at 55 or 65, and California at 70.  (Everywhere I
drive, that is.)

> <too bad asbestos is a no-no now, I have a feeling I could use
> some real soon>  <g>

Keep a fire extinguisher handy...

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:51:53 -0700
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> > What about the WWW/LX folks and GP folks?  Are their mail formats =
public
> > knowledge?  We can write modules for them, too.  Once the basic
> > import/export is written, it should be no big deal to support as
> > many formats as we want.

Look at our MAIL.I file, and MAIL.O - Enjoy. I don't promise
to stick to it for you guys, though :) ...

> The file formats for LXPOP, LXNNTP and PNR version 2.X are the
> standard internet RFC message formats.
>
> I wonder why none of the other palmtop connectivity suppliers use the
> standard Internet message formats ?

Curious, what is it?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:16:42 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HPLX vs WinCE

> > "WinCE is better than HPLZ, nyah, nyah, nhyah"
> um, has anyone actually said anything like this? Or have they just
> said that the masses choose WinCE?
>
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@cs.monash.edu.au     http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren

Exactly.



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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>Ok, all you other Oregonians - admit it, it's true here, right?  Half
>the population is ex-Californians playing Pole Position - the other half
>are native Oregonians wanting their quiet freeways back...
>
Maybe in Eugene, but here in Corvallis (no, I don't work for HP) it's like
San Diego: the scared ones are the old folks in Cadillacs, and it's the
girls (I think they call 'em "chicks" now) playing Pole Position.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:58:01 -0400
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>From:    John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
>Subject: Re: HP 200 Calculator

>Anybody know if there's a good programmable engineering
>calculator availible for CE with graphing and a solver?


>I don't know of a programmable calculator for WinCE, but there
>is a file
>available on the major download boards (SIMTEL, etc.) called
>Calculus Computer
>that works very well for everything the HP Solver can't do on
>the 200LX.

>I believe the file is called CC4_9206.zip. I use it on my
>laptop as well. It is
>a very easy to learn and useful program. I recommend it
>highly.


>Brian


Thanks Brian

It sounds like something I can use, I'll check it out.

John
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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:04:59 -0700
Reply-To:     "Tim S." <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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I hope this is within the confines of this list. But...

Where would I find out about different types of email services (if they =
exist) where you can send them a specificly formated question and get an =
automated email reply answer?
=20
For example:  If you want to know the weather if San Francisco, you =
might send a message with the subject weather and the message content =
San Francisco, CA.  Then a few minutes later recieve an email response =
with the weather info.
=20
Are there services like this?  Not just for weather but anything, =
traffic, directions, addresses, phone numbers, etc.?

I do intend to use my hp for this if I can fine some interesting =
services.
=20
-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard

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<HTML>
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<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
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<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I hope this is within the confines =
of this list.=20
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<DIV>
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email services=20
(if they exist) where you can send them a specificly formated question =
and get=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>For example:&nbsp; If you want to know the weather =
if San=20
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email=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Are there services like this?&nbsp; Not just for =
weather but=20
anything, traffic, directions, addresses, phone numbers, =
etc.?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I do intend to use my hp for this if =
I can fine=20
some interesting services.</FONT></DIV>
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Cool, I've been looking into packet radio too. How do you
like the ADI AT-600? What kind of range do you get?


___________________reply seperator________________


With a little help from two newgroups and an email list I have
gotten
a Pocket Packet radio on the air. 200LX into a Tigertronics
BP-2 into an
ADI AT-600. Running BayCom software works like a charm!

Now - does anyone know of a .exm version of a packet client?
Has anyone hosted FBBS on a 200LX?
geeee - how 'bout a 200LX Packet email list??? 8)

---
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     KC0BUY - 146.970(-) Ý100Hz PL¨ Col. Springs, CO
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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:44:10 -0600
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Though the whole list would benefit from the answer...

The AT-600HP is (imnsha) one of the best radios on the market for its
price. The audio is a bit weak, but I usually run with an earbud or into
an amplified speaker - so not a real issue.

The antenna system is very complex ...
I use one of three systems...
At home I use a Ground Plane that is about 12 ft AGL. With this I can hit
stations 15 miles away with 3W.
At "remote" locations I have an old camera tripod with a 19' piece of
welding rod sticking up in the air. I use the frame of the tripod as a
ground plane. The tip of the antenna can be extended to about 8'. Because
I use this "by the side of the road" the range figures vary.
At "extended" locations - well I am working on a BNC/BNC antenna mount
that will clamp to the frame of my backpack. This will put the rubberduck
above my head (say 6'). At this point I have no clue as to what the range
will be. While camping I plan to use a wire J-Pole in a tree.

More as this developes....


On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Cool, I've been looking into packet radio too. How do you
> like the ADI AT-600? What kind of range do you get?
>
>
> ___________________reply seperator________________
>
>
> With a little help from two newgroups and an email list I have
> gotten
> a Pocket Packet radio on the air. 200LX into a Tigertronics
> BP-2 into an
> ADI AT-600. Running BayCom software works like a charm!
>
> Now - does anyone know of a .exm version of a packet client?
> Has anyone hosted FBBS on a 200LX?
> geeee - how 'bout a 200LX Packet email list??? 8)
>
> ---
> Jan Allbright FF/EMT-B
>  "36-92" - Peyton Volunteer Fire Department
>      KC0BUY - 146.970(-) Ý100Hz PL¨ Col. Springs, CO
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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:25:18 -0500
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Comments: To: wharfrat@PCISYS.NET

On 06-23 01:46pm, the following was written:

> With a little help from two newgroups and an email list I have gotten
> a Pocket Packet radio on the air. 200LX into a Tigertronics BP-2 into an
> ADI AT-600. Running BayCom software works like a charm!
>
> Now - does anyone know of a .exm version of a packet client?
> Has anyone hosted FBBS on a 200LX?
> geeee - how 'bout a 200LX Packet email list??? 8)
>

Hmmm... a exm packet program.... I think Steven Lawson mentioned something
about this a while back....  Out of curiosity what adapter are you using to
convert the LX serial port to the DB25 on the Bay Pac? I had to cut <ouch>
a extra serial cable and wire up a DB25 to the other end. My brother is
gonna be setting up his LX for packet also and would like a less expensive
alternative.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:02:11 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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At 04:04 PM 6/23/98 -0700, Tim Shephard wrote:
>I hope this is within the confines of this list. But...
>
>Where would I find out about different types of email services (if they
exist) where you can send them a specificly formated question and get an
automated email reply answer?
>
>For example:  If you want to know the weather if San Francisco, you might
send a message with the subject weather and the message content San
Francisco, CA.  Then a few minutes later recieve an email response with the
weather info.
>
>Are there services like this?  Not just for weather but anything, traffic,
directions, addresses, phone numbers, etc.?
>
>I do intend to use my hp for this if I can fine some interesting services.
>
>-Tim
>tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
>http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard
>

Hi Tim,

I send a body message without Subject :
send http://www.dna.lth.se/cgi-bin/kurt/rates/rates?USD+ALL

To either : agora@dna.affrc.co.jp or agora@www.eng.dmu.ac.uk
 I can expect an email return on the same day the result of currency
conversion rates for US dollar.

I learned this trick from an email freeware "em_ai.exe" which teaches things
that can be done with just an internet email access, you may like to find
out more by downloading the file from http://www.almatel.net/"wines/em_ai.zip

Cheers.

Chin

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:08:44 +0800
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Sorry, I had provided a wrong email address below instead of
agora@dna.affrc.co.jp it should be agora@dna.affrc.go.jp

>Hi Tim,
>
>I send a body message without Subject :
>send http://www.dna.lth.se/cgi-bin/kurt/rates/rates?USD+ALL
>
>To either : agora@dna.affrc.co.jp or agora@www.eng.dmu.ac.uk
> I can expect an email return on the same day the result of currency
conversion rates for US dollar.
>
>I learned this trick from an email freeware "em_ai.exe" which teaches
things that can be done with just an >internet email access, you may like to
find out more by downloading the file from
>http://www.almatel.net/"wines/em_ai.zip
>
>Cheers.
>
>Chin

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> Where would I find out about different types of email services (if they
> exist) where you can send them a specificly formated question and get an
> automated email reply answer?

Try:
http://www.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/Mailing_Lists/
http://www.liszt.com/


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Well, I'm giving Goin Postal a good hard look...and it's looking real good!

One problem though. I have a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem. If I enable modem
compression, I am constantly getting timeouts during my sessions. When I
use %C0 (I think) to disable compression, everything works fine. Is this
common? Would it be fixed by stepping up the clock in the 200LX (currently
it's a stock machine)?

Any insight would be appreciated!!

Oh, and BTW, I have the port set at 57600. But then again, it didn't matter
if I ran it at 9600 baud. I still got the timeouts!


Steve

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On 06-23 10:46pm, the following was written:

> Well, I'm giving Goin Postal a good hard look...and it's looking real good

Good choice :)

> One problem though. I have a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem. If I enable mode
> compression, I am constantly getting timeouts during my sessions. When I
> use %C0 (I think) to disable compression, everything works fine. Is this
> common? Would it be fixed by stepping up the clock in the 200LX (currently
> it's a stock machine)?

I'm also using a Megahertz card and it works without any problems, although
I'm not trying to enable any type of compression scheme. My unit is a speed
doubled 200LX. Maybe someone else on the list might have some ideas about
the compression. I do, however, have GP set for 57600, although I'm sure the
actual speed is nowhere near this speed.

Jeff


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I have a couple of questions about upgrading my 200LX that I hope some
people can provide recommendations based upon their personal
experiences.  Please feel free to address the following topics by number
with your pros and cons for each.

1.  I want to upgrade the memory capacity of my 200LX.  I am considering
the 4 Meg internal upgrade from Marcan for a couple of reasons.
        -I only have a limited budget so this is very attractive at $69 to have
them upgrade it.
        -I'd like to have an internal upgrade so that I could keep the PCMCIA
slot open for a modem.
        -If I'd need/want additional memory in the future then I could get a
flash card.  Then I could keep programs loaded on the flash card and my
actual data in the 4 Meg internal memory.  I could easily back up the
data to the flash card and keep the large and numerous programs backed
up on my PC.
        -Has anyone had problems with having their case opened up and
installing this upgrade?  I'll let Marcan do the work since I'd probably
solder as if I had a caulk gun. :)

2.  I'd like to get a modem card.  The main purpose for this would
likely be to handle email more easily and anywhere.  I wouldn't be tied
to my desktop PC!  I am considering a Simple Technologies 28.8 card that
could be upgraded to 33.6.
        -I've been disappointed to read that some people have had problems with
Simple's modems though, especially with the drivers that are used.  I've
really grown impatient with computer hardware and software that is
difficult to install, setup and use so those reports from people have me
wary.
        -What are the different voltage/power requirements of their modems?
Are all their current ones the lower voltage designs which don't use as
much power and generate as much heat?  Can someone clarify this for me?
        -I like the idea of a 5 year warranty because I plan to keep and use my
200LX for a long time.
        -By having my internal memory upgraded to 4 Meg I could have enough
room to download and review my email with the modem installed.
        -Modem cards that combine memory on them seem very expensive compared
to this route which should give me some flexibility.

3.  I'm also thinking about the possibility of getting the x2 crystal
upgrade from Times 2 Tech if it would speed things up noticeably for
programs (both built-in ROM and loaded in DOS by me).  Would it improve
modem speed?  It would seem that it would at least help speed up the
display to the levels of a 28.8 modem.
        -Has anyone had this done with the Marcan memory upgrade?  Did you have
any problems with this speed upgrade or with both upgrades together?
Again I'd let them do the work since I'm apprehensive about modifying my
200LX by myself.


One of the programs that I'd like to use with the upgrades is
LotusWorks.  I have a copy of this program that I've luckily kept from
when I had my 386.  I also have WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS that I had used
all the time and would consider using again.  This would be great since
its file format is such a long-standing standard even Word 95 and 97
still support it readily.

I have and currently use Intellisync and TransFile Win 200 to backup and
transfer files with my Pentium 100 running Windows 95.

Would making all three of these upgrades shorten the expected life of my
200LX?  I am particularly concerned about heat generation.  I'd use a
newly acquired HP AC adapter.  The serial number of my 200LX begins with
SG637.  My one year HP warranty just expired.

I'd consider having Times 2 Tech upgrade the memory to 8 Meg at the same
time as the crystal but it's more expensive and I'm not sure I'd need to
have that much memory.  I'm sure people will recommend to upgrade as
much as I can afford, but if I could spend $69 to get to 4 Meg and $75
to get the double speed then I could use the difference toward a pretty
large flash card.


4.  What software is recommended for reading email?  I assume that the
available programs will only be able to process text and not graphics or
the 'attached' files that can be sent via Netscape or Outlook.  Can
someone provide some more insight?  I'd love to be able to get graphics
and attachments but I'm not holding my breath.
        -I'd like to be able to download my email to my 200LX, read and respond
to it off line, and then log back on and send it.  Which of the
available programs can do this?
        -I guess that I'd need a POP3 email account so that I can download my
messages to my 200LX and then log off while retaining access to them.
I'd want to be able to hook up to a phone line anywhere (work, home,
vacation, business travels) and get my email.
        -What would happen if some of my email messages contained HTML graphics
and/or file attachments?  How would these be managed?  Would I loose
them?
        -Could I log on to different servers and check my email at my home
email address and a different one for my work email address?
        -Ideally I'd like to be able to browse the web just like I do with my
PC that runs Netscape.  But is it possible?  And does it require endless
hours of setting up, configuring and troubleshooting the 200LX, modem
and software.  Can they actually display full HTML, frames, etc. albeit
in CGA mode?


I appreciate the time and effort of everyone who is able to offer their
advice so that I can decide what upgrades I'll get.

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KC0BUY Said:

> Now - does anyone know of a .exm version of a packet client?
> Has anyone hosted FBBS on a 200LX?
> geeee - how 'bout a 200LX Packet email list??? 8)

   'Fraid I can't say that I've come across a full-featured packet client
written for the LX platform, and I'm not sure what FBBS is.

   I use a 100LX with KAGOLD in to a KAM-Plus attached to a KWD TS680S and
it works great for all modes that the KAM offers that I've played with
(AMTOR, PACTOR, GTOR, PACKET, RTTY, CW); no prob on VHF or HF.  You have to
set the buffering options up a bit to compensate for the slower processor,
but it's never dropped a character nor hampered a QSO.  It's cool for
contesting because of all the macros'n'stuff, so you don't have to
hunt'n'peck the chicklet kbd on the LX under stressful contest conditions.

   Don't try to run it from within SYSMGR; exit to DOS and fire it up from
there.  I had it on a 4MB flash card (I say "had" because my cards and HP
were "misplaced" and, though I've replaced the HP, I haven't replaced the
cards yet).  KAGOLD is just a great piece of software, once you get used to
the key strokes.

   If you don't do DIGI HF, it's probably an overkill.  The HP's built-in
terminal program worked fine for me when I was node hopping on VHF as a
youngster :) but I'm sure that most if not all of the DOS-based terminal
programs out there will work fine.

   GL OM ES CU ON 15 FER FD 73 de MARTIN AC6RM

p.s. re: packet e-mail list: this LX List has a bunch of technically
competent hams on it; if you have a question, just toss it out.  Or mebe
start an HP list on packet -- I'm on w6tj.socal.ca.noam I think ... flush
out all those LX packeteers and get them on this list :)

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:14:53 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19980623234625.01e8a350@mail> from Steve Meisner at
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> Well, I'm giving Goin Postal a good hard look...and it's looking real good!
>
> One problem though. I have a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem. If I enable modem
> compression, I am constantly getting timeouts during my sessions. When I
> use %C0 (I think) to disable compression, everything works fine. Is this
> common? Would it be fixed by stepping up the clock in the 200LX (currently
> it's a stock machine)?
>
> Any insight would be appreciated!!
>
> Oh, and BTW, I have the port set at 57600. But then again, it didn't matter
> if I ran it at 9600 baud. I still got the timeouts!

A few things to suggest.  Use 19200 for a stock machine, 57600 is too
fast.  Also, assuming it takes the same init as my XJ1144, try using
the following init string: ATE1Q0&C1&D2&K3  Completely exit system
manager and try it.  If this works, make CERTAIN when running from the
system manager that the inverted exclamation mark is in the comment field.
Next, are you running it with message compression enabled or disabled
(in Menu/Setup/Preferences)?

If all that doesn't work, it might be an issue with the ISP that would
require adding the "mru 576" (per the instructions) or removing the
"-as a0000" from the EPPPD line in GP.BAT.  More likely that it's one
of the items in the previous paragraph.

Should work reliably, I've even tested it through one of the acoustic
couplers (the Telecoupler II) and ran without a hitch.  If you need
more help, you're welcome to contact me via the support address.

I'll leave the list address on this message in case it's of use to
anyone else getting things going.  I've finally figured out majordomo,
so should be able to host a GP list if there's enough interest.

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:27:35 -0700
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Rick:
>
Can I ask what problems users have had with Simple's modems? The 33.6 is
rated by Simple as 200 compatible and it draws 144mA in operating mode.
>
If this doesn't work for you, Viking's modems are rated 200LX compatible and
draw only 140mA for he 33.6k.
>
If you want more info, contact me privately.
>
Bernie Torbik
www.shoresystems.net

-----Original Message-----
From:   HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of Rick
Schwaiger
Sent:   23 June, 1998 22:03
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Advice and Recommendations Wanted

I have a couple of questions about upgrading my 200LX that I hope some
people can provide recommendations based upon their personal
experiences.  Please feel free to address the following topics by number
with your pros and cons for each.

1.  I want to upgrade the memory capacity of my 200LX.  I am considering
the 4 Meg internal upgrade from Marcan for a couple of reasons.
        -I only have a limited budget so this is very attractive at $69 to
have
them upgrade it.
        -I'd like to have an internal upgrade so that I could keep the
PCMCIA
slot open for a modem.
        -If I'd need/want additional memory in the future then I could get a
flash card.  Then I could keep programs loaded on the flash card and my
actual data in the 4 Meg internal memory.  I could easily back up the
data to the flash card and keep the large and numerous programs backed
up on my PC.
        -Has anyone had problems with having their case opened up and
installing this upgrade?  I'll let Marcan do the work since I'd probably
solder as if I had a caulk gun. :)

2.  I'd like to get a modem card.  The main purpose for this would
likely be to handle email more easily and anywhere.  I wouldn't be tied
to my desktop PC!  I am considering a Simple Technologies 28.8 card that
could be upgraded to 33.6.
        -I've been disappointed to read that some people have had problems
with
Simple's modems though, especially with the drivers that are used.  I've
really grown impatient with computer hardware and software that is
difficult to install, setup and use so those reports from people have me
wary.
        -What are the different voltage/power requirements of their modems?
Are all their current ones the lower voltage designs which don't use as
much power and generate as much heat?  Can someone clarify this for me?
        -I like the idea of a 5 year warranty because I plan to keep and use
my
200LX for a long time.
        -By having my internal memory upgraded to 4 Meg I could have enough
room to download and review my email with the modem installed.
        -Modem cards that combine memory on them seem very expensive
compared
to this route which should give me some flexibility.

3.  I'm also thinking about the possibility of getting the x2 crystal
upgrade from Times 2 Tech if it would speed things up noticeably for
programs (both built-in ROM and loaded in DOS by me).  Would it improve
modem speed?  It would seem that it would at least help speed up the
display to the levels of a 28.8 modem.
        -Has anyone had this done with the Marcan memory upgrade?  Did you
have
any problems with this speed upgrade or with both upgrades together?
Again I'd let them do the work since I'm apprehensive about modifying my
200LX by myself.


One of the programs that I'd like to use with the upgrades is
LotusWorks.  I have a copy of this program that I've luckily kept from
when I had my 386.  I also have WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS that I had used
all the time and would consider using again.  This would be great since
its file format is such a long-standing standard even Word 95 and 97
still support it readily.

I have and currently use Intellisync and TransFile Win 200 to backup and
transfer files with my Pentium 100 running Windows 95.

Would making all three of these upgrades shorten the expected life of my
200LX?  I am particularly concerned about heat generation.  I'd use a
newly acquired HP AC adapter.  The serial number of my 200LX begins with
SG637.  My one year HP warranty just expired.

I'd consider having Times 2 Tech upgrade the memory to 8 Meg at the same
time as the crystal but it's more expensive and I'm not sure I'd need to
have that much memory.  I'm sure people will recommend to upgrade as
much as I can afford, but if I could spend $69 to get to 4 Meg and $75
to get the double speed then I could use the difference toward a pretty
large flash card.


4.  What software is recommended for reading email?  I assume that the
available programs will only be able to process text and not graphics or
the 'attached' files that can be sent via Netscape or Outlook.  Can
someone provide some more insight?  I'd love to be able to get graphics
and attachments but I'm not holding my breath.
        -I'd like to be able to download my email to my 200LX, read and
respond
to it off line, and then log back on and send it.  Which of the
available programs can do this?
        -I guess that I'd need a POP3 email account so that I can download
my
messages to my 200LX and then log off while retaining access to them.
I'd want to be able to hook up to a phone line anywhere (work, home,
vacation, business travels) and get my email.
        -What would happen if some of my email messages contained HTML
graphics
and/or file attachments?  How would these be managed?  Would I loose
them?
        -Could I log on to different servers and check my email at my home
email address and a different one for my work email address?
        -Ideally I'd like to be able to browse the web just like I do with
my
PC that runs Netscape.  But is it possible?  And does it require endless
hours of setting up, configuring and troubleshooting the 200LX, modem
and software.  Can they actually display full HTML, frames, etc. albeit
in CGA mode?


I appreciate the time and effort of everyone who is able to offer their
advice so that I can decide what upgrades I'll get.

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> 2.  I'd like to get a modem card.  The main purpose for this would
> likely be to handle email more easily and anywhere.  I wouldn't be tied
> to my desktop PC!  I am considering a Simple Technologies 28.8 card that
> could be upgraded to 33.6.

Personally I love my XJ1144.  Although it's only 14.4, I doubt you'll
get a huge gain from a 33.6 (maybe others with speed-doubled units
can say different?).  Having the XJack is very convenient, and they're
about $15-$20 on Auctionweb.  I've never tried the Simplejack, might
be just as convenient.  The XJ1144 is about 140ma online.

> 4.  What software is recommended for reading email?  I assume that the

As the author of Goin' Postal, I'm biased <g>.  I'll let others plug
it if they choose.  GP is text based, html mail would display as html.
Attachments can be handled directly by GP if uuencoded, or by an external
program if MIME.  GP doesn't support decoding MIME yet.  It does support
multiple servers and/or ISPs.  http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw/

>         -Ideally I'd like to be able to browse the web just like I do with my
> PC that runs Netscape.  But is it possible?  And does it require endless
> hours of setting up, configuring and troubleshooting the 200LX, modem
> and software.  Can they actually display full HTML, frames, etc. albeit
> in CGA mode?

Now this is the realm where WWW/LX thrives, when you need web browsing.
I'm sure Avi will be happy to tell you about WWW/LX!

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:22:25 -0700
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Goin' Postal is now signed up with a service that handles secure online
and telephone credit card registrations!  So, if you've been dragging
your feet buying a stamp, now you can click an icon instead.. :-)

The listing on SUPER should be updated as soon a Mitch gets a chance,
it says 1.06beta but still takes you to the right page for 2.15 release.

BTW - I'm working on an improved BATSET-style freeware utility, that'll
be my "thank you" to this list.  Should solve some annoying
characteristics when you constantly dock and undock the LX with chargable
batteries.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:47:37 +0200
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** Nur Empf-nger **

I have to admit to often reading maps etc when on the road. I try to =
minimise the risk by stopping, but for ToDos, I always have a Dictaphone =
in the car - saves typing and isn=27t quite so dangerous.

Phil


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>>> Jez Cunningham <Jez.Cunningham=40ALCATEL.FR> 22.06.98 17.40 >>>
I won=27t admit to using it while driving, but I DID lean the lx on the
steering wheel at a red light to enter a quick to-do.  Then I heard this
terrible honking and I thought I=27d missed the green light, but no, still
red.  Perhaps someone didn=27t like me doing non-driving things at the
wheel?  No - turned out I was leaning on the steering wheel too hard and
honking myself...  Lucky the airbag didn=27t go off and project the lx up =
my
nostrils...

Jez

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** Nur Empf-nger **



>>> =22m. c. Beutler=22 <mycroft_h=40bigfoot.com> 23.06.98 0.26 >>>
On 06-22 09:02am, was written-=7D

=23 I run my 200LX from NiMh batteries and always charge them in the =
palmtop. It
=23 =27s always been a pain for me, that the palmtop gets hot and most =
annoying of
=23  all, the screen loses so much contrast that it=27s hardly readable.

Have you tried the old =22hold down the ON key and play with the plus and
minus buttons=22 routine?

That=27s only a =22Band-Aid=22 solution, not a cure.

=23 I use a fairly primitive (although it has =22Stabilised=22 embalzoned =
on ist hou
=23 sing) wall-plug power supply, with a choice of output voltages.

>>You gotta measure it for yourself with a meter; period.

I intend to do that

=23 This morning, I decided to try charging the batteies with the power =
supply s
=23 et to 9v (instead of the usual 12V). Lo and behold, the batteries =
still appe
=23 ar to be charging (I haven=27t had a chance to download a program to =
test this
=23  theory yet) but setup/Buddy reports 2.95V main battery. Best of all, =
THE SC
=23 REEN IS FAR MORE READABLE=21=21=21 It=27s still a bit low on contrast, =
but far bette
=23 r.
=23 Phil

I=27ll bet you a hot dog that the =2212 volt=22 setting is some amount =
higher
than advertised.  The internal supply in the 200LX will function (for a
while) with input voltages outside the recommended, but it is going to
convert the =22excess=22 voltage into heat.  This, in turn, affects the
video of the palmtop.  There should be tons more info on this in the
archives.

My guess was also that the PSU was kicking out more than 12V when under =
practically no load (the LX don=27t need much). AS the power circuitry in =
the LX is linear then of course all excess will be dissipated as heat.

The motto of my message was just to encourage other people to try running =
on a lower voltage - it worked great for me :)

Phil
-
**********************************************************************
     mark beutler                           mycroft_h=40bigfoot.com=20

          =22Outside of a dog, a book is a man=27s best friend.=22
          =22Inside a dog, It=27s too dark to read.=22     G. Marx
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:06:15 -0400
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Is anyone aware of any GPS techology or the 200LX?

Aaron

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** Nur Empf-nger **

>>a frenzied 75mph+ speed junkie....>>

 Phew, the porsches, mercedes and BMW=27s over here would be well =
impressed as they park in your trunk at around a hundred more...

Phil


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>>> Steven Lawson <stevel=40SDL.CONTINET.COM> 23.06.98 22.05 >>>
> I guess it makes it possibly for some to drive that way without any
> problems or accidents. Personally I don=27t see what people get so upset
> about. Quite clearly he was able to handle the way he drove or he =
would=27ve
> had accidents.

Oh man, I=27ve tried not to get sucked into this but here goes (looking
over his shoulder for rabid Oregon natives coming to dish out a little
payback) <g>

I moved from Southern California to Oregon (near Eugene/Springfield).  I
have to say I=27ve never appreciated how a So Cal. driver can manage to
juggle their cellphone, daytimer, Big Mac and a large coke simultaneously
(in a stickshift) while driving 75mph yet staying out of accidents till
moving here. It=27s quite a culture shock to see someone paying complete
attention to getting on a relatively light freeway, both hands on the
wheel, eyes focused, and slowing down to a near stop as they =22merge=22=21=
 Ack=21

(I can hear my fellow Oregonians lighting the torches already) :-)

Ok, all you other Oregonians - admit it, it=27s true here, right?  Half
the population is ex-Californians playing Pole Position - the other half
are native Oregonians wanting their quiet freeways back...

(BTW - I never juggled all that (well, maybe a Big Mac) and in my time
here I=27ve gone from a frenzied 75mph+ speed junkie to a 65 (and nearly
55 around Eugene) happy Oregonian who dreads the occasional rental car
in Orange County.  (I think I still merge ok though) :-)

<too bad asbestos is a no-no now, I have a feeling I could use
some real soon>  <g>

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So the manufacturers who put a voice-memo function in their PDAs got it
right...?
Jez

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I have to admit to often reading maps etc when on the road. I try to minimise th
risk by stopping, but for ToDos, I always have a Dictaphone in the car - saves t
ing and isn't quite so dangerous.

Phil
***************************************************

>>> Jez Cunningham <Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR> 22.06.98 17.40 >>>
I won't admit to using it while driving, but I DID lean the lx on the
steering wheel at a red light to enter a quick to-do.  Then I heard this
terrible honking and I thought I'd missed the green light, but no, still
red.  Perhaps someone didn't like me doing non-driving things at the
wheel?  No - turned out I was leaning on the steering wheel too hard and
honking myself...  Lucky the airbag didn't go off and project the lx up my
nostrils...

Jez

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This thread is good. I have a chance to confess and repent. When I first =
got
my LX, I did a couple of times play solitaire while driving. That is =
until
looked up once and realized that I had not been any attention whatever to
driving. I was still on the road driving perfectly along, I just could =
not
recollect anything about the drive for who knows how long (seconds?
minutes?). I think a person can drive along on a basic road using like =
one
percent of their attention, but when the deer or branch or child ends up =
in
the way, forgt it. How would one explain to a judge, or one's concience, =
how
there were not even any skid marks?

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded gun to an idiot!"

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:36:18 EDT
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> 1.  I want to upgrade the memory capacity of my 200LX.  I am considering

You actually end up with 5 or 6 meg total, probably 6 in your case, and
probably with no soldering.

> 2.  I'd like to get a modem card.  The main purpose for this would

I too am very happy with my Megahertz XJ1144. I don't think one can fully
realize a full 28.8, but I might be wrong. These XJ1144 are only $20.

> 3.  2x crystal...

Do it. Nuff said. I did mine myself and I'm not really a solderer. Mine =
was
Japanese, with the instructions in Japanese, and I still managed. It's =
only
a tiny crystal with 2 solder points.

You should have no trouble w/ Word Perfect. I think the same goes for =
Lotus
Works.

> Would making all three of these upgrades shorten the expected life of =
my
> 200LX?  I am particularly concerned about heat generation.  I'd use a

Actually, these things are likely to EXTEND the useful life of your LX by
making it more powerful. Neither of them will damage it in any way.

> 4.  What software is recommended for reading email?  I assume that the

You will be thrilled. Goin' Postal and WWW/LX are excellent programs. For
just e-mail, GP allows multiple servers, attatchments, and a huge bevvy =
of
other stuff. Shows HTML as however the text comes in.

WWW/LX is awesome as well with full featured e-mail, news, and WWW. The
browser is pretty fantastic. It handles inline JPG and GIF's real nice. =
It
handles frames in a sensible way considering the size of the palmtop =
screen,
you just look at one or the other at a time. Of course, no JAVA or such
stuff like that. The lack of a multitasking CPU cuts out those things.

Happy palmtopping...

Darren.

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** Nur Empf-nger **

seems so....

Phil

>>> Jez Cunningham <Jez.Cunningham=40ALCATEL.FR> 24.06.98 9.38 >>>
So the manufacturers who put a voice-memo function in their PDAs got it
right...?
Jez

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I have to admit to often reading maps etc when on the road. I try to =
minimise th
risk by stopping, but for ToDos, I always have a Dictaphone in the car - =
saves t
ing and isn=27t quite so dangerous.

Phil
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>>> Jez Cunningham <Jez.Cunningham=40ALCATEL.FR> 22.06.98 17.40 >>>
I won=27t admit to using it while driving, but I DID lean the lx on the
steering wheel at a red light to enter a quick to-do.  Then I heard this
terrible honking and I thought I=27d missed the green light, but no, still
red.  Perhaps someone didn=27t like me doing non-driving things at the
wheel?  No - turned out I was leaning on the steering wheel too hard and
honking myself...  Lucky the airbag didn=27t go off and project the lx up =
my
nostrils...

Jez

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For info and fwiw (and not to start any more wars), I have just come across
the Dataquest analysis of the shipments of handheld computers for 96 and 97
(in thousands of units):

Company         1996    1997
-------         ----    ----
3Com            360     1018
HP              181     241
Casio           19      74
Philips         n/a     71
Apple           63      54
Others          76      160

"The market grew 65% in '97, to 2.4M units*.  HP lead the WinCE market with
43% market share."

* (_I_ can't make the fgures add up to this?).

best regds
Jez

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:45:28 +0010
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hi
where is it possible to find this 2x upgrade,
is it working fine (com/display...)
incompatibility?
how much is it?
regard
Alain

> > 3.  2x crystal...
>
> Do it. Nuff said. I did mine myself and I'm not really a solderer. Mine
> was Japanese, with the instructions in Japanese, and I still managed. It's
> only a tiny crystal with 2 solder points.
>
> You should have no trouble w/ Word Perfect. I think the same goes for
> Lotus Works.
>


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Palmtoppers,

I don=27t know if anyone else has experienced this - my internet access at =
home has become much quicker since the World Cup (or whatever it=27s =
called) has started.

My 28.8 Modem ran a transfer rate (according to Netscape/OS/2) of around =
3.8 kB/s during the England match. I=27ve tried this during other matches =
and this magical transformation occurs every time (I mostly get <1kB/s=21).=


These are my observations:

1. Football is great for internet access

2. the fastest modem in the world is no use for internet access if the =
bandwidth isn=27t available.

Phil


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:14:29 -0700
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Folks,

Does anyone know of a way to use the hplx menu key to bring up the
WordPerfect menu?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:04:08 -0700
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I have for sale a used 8MB PNY compactflash card w/adaptor.
It comes complete in the box w/users guide, $53.00 shipped.



Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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From:         Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
Subject:      Re: 123 macros
Comments: To: Tim Abbott <tmca@CFHT.HAWAII.EDU>

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** Reply to note Wed, 3 Jun 1998 From: Tim Abbott <tmca@CFHT.HAWAII.EDU>

> Does anyone know where I can find a repository of 123 macros?  In particular,
> I'm looking for some simple finance s/w (I have an HP100LX)?
>
go to www.powells.com
they have a couple of books in stock for doing personal finance
using the dos 2x versions of 123


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:21:52 PDT
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Subject:      Fax hardware
Comments: To: Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>

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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>

Reply to note from Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>,
Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:04:45 +1000


> I have used a MicroFax 144 external fax-modem for the last 3 years
> and it is the perfect companion to a HP100LX 1meg.
>
> only 6cmx11cmx2cm

> will receive faxes and print them directly to the connected printer

> or store up to 15 pages for later retrieval without having to be
> connected to my palmtop.

Two questions;

First do you mean it will receive the fax and store it
without being attached to the computer?

Second do you mean it will print them to the printer
WITHOUT being attached to the computer?

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:06:03 +1000
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              Tim Pitman <ptmail@DIVERSION.COM>
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Has any one successfully ported minix or elks linux to the hp palmtop, and
if so, where can it be obtained?

If the answer to the above is no, would any list users like to help port
minix to the palmtop?

Tim Pitman

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:12:04 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Ye 'Ol Pocket Packet Radio

Out of curiosity what adapter are you using to
convert the LX serial port to the DB25 on the
Bay Pac? I had to cut <ouch> a extra serial cable
and wire up a DB25 to the other end. My brother is
gonna be setting up his LX for packet also and
would like a less expensive alternative.

You mean a physical converter plug?  9 pins in on
one side 25 pins out the other (or VV). Didn't
know these are rare.

I saw one yesterday in Computer City and didn't
know a use for it.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:42:47 -0500
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Hey guy,

I would recommend you do the upgrade (to as much as
yu can afford with the same person rather than two
different ones).

There is a mem (20MB/14.4) and modem on the same card.
Yu can't juggle just a modem and four MB too good.
especiaally if yu don't gotta.

The diff between 4 and 8 MB is minimal and its more
expensive to redo it later. sorta like penny wise,
pound foolish. Do the eight.

>From what's on this board, yu can't do (faster than 19)
a 33 or 56 modem so don't waste yuor money.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:06:46 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Driving vs. HPLX

Hi all,

I did a couple of times play solitaire while driving.
That is until looked up once and realized that I had
not been paying any attention whatever to driving.
I was still on the road driving perfectly along, I
just could not recollect anything about the drive for
who knows how long (seconds?  minutes?). I think a
person can drive along on a basic road using like one
percent of their attention, but when the deer or branch
or child ends up in the way, forgt it. How would one
explain to a judge, or one's concience, how there were
not even any skid marks?

Not many people would own up to this.  Would it be worse
if an abutment got in your way instead of a deer or child?

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:17:26 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199806240706.DAA12173@web2.po.com> from "Aaron Billin" at Jun
              24, 98 03:06:15 am
Content-Type: text

>
> Is anyone aware of any GPS techology or the 200LX?

Yes, I'm aware of GPS technology, and the 200LX.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:09:00 +0200
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Subject:      Fluffy: Internet - more bandwidth during World Cup
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This is because FIFA would not allow RealAudio broadcasting of the
commentaries.  So we all stop surfing for 90 minutes.
Imagine how slow the internet would have become if all of us (at work
during the interesting matches) had tried to access the audio!

FWIW a few more interesting(?) statistics (slightly related):

Moore's law (after Gordon Moore, Intel):- transistor density on chips
doubles every 18 months.  This is well known; not so well known are:

- max transmission speeds down fiber optic lines doubles every 12 months

- bandwidth demand over Internet doubles every TWO months.  I told you I'd be
slightly relevant!

and finally:
- fiber-optic cable is being installed (world-wide) at the speed of sound!!
(~750 miles per hour)

Sorry for being off-topic
Jez

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Date:    24/06/98 11:55
<snip>
2. the fastest modem in the world is no use for internet access if the bandwidth
isn't available.

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:29:16 -0700
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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This has to be a "US-only" survey and probably excluded industrial units.
Psion PLC is by far the largest shipper in the world after 3COM.

-----Original Message-----
From:   HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of Jez
Cunningham
Sent:   24 June, 1998 02:00
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Handheld computer shipments

For info and fwiw (and not to start any more wars), I have just come across
the Dataquest analysis of the shipments of handheld computers for 96 and 97
(in thousands of units):

Company         1996    1997
-------         ----    ----
3Com            360     1018
HP              181     241
Casio           19      74
Philips         n/a     71
Apple           63      54
Others          76      160

"The market grew 65% in '97, to 2.4M units*.  HP lead the WinCE market with
43% market share."

* (_I_ can't make the fgures add up to this?).

best regds
Jez

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:30:33 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Goin' Postal comments

 WPCL Okay, I've tried Goin' Postal and here is my experience so far.
It works very well.  It was easy to set up.  I have spent several
hours trying to get LXTCP/PNR running without success))GP took
me perhaps an hour to set up.  It would have been faster if I
had gathered all the necessary information ahead of time.  For
example, the numbers I needed for setting up my hosts are stored
in a file on my 200LX so I had to exit GP to get to them and then
restart.

I like the short amount of time GP spends online.  The ability
to choose between dialing locations and amongst hosts seems
really well thought out.  I also like the option to leave mail
on the server.  I like the interface very well.

I also have a few questions and/or comments.  I have been unable
to get Mini)Telnet to work.  After shelling out of GP I type
"mt myhost.net" and it tries and times out.  Is there some config
file I need to set up?  Is there any way to expand the addressbook
beyond the 18 it seems to be limiyed to?  Can one shell out when
offline?  I couldn't find a way to view files on my LX from within
GP.  Is there any way to task switch back to native LX apps from
GP?  I set it to run within the app manager, but seemed locked
into it once it started.  The shell command ÝAlt)S¨ isn't
documented anywhere that I could find.

Well, that's it.  Hope this comes out formatted okay))it's my
first public attempt with GP.

Ted


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:01:12 -0300
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              Pablo KIM <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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Just  for avoid that you make a wrong decision choosing a wince:

> > "WinCE is better than HPLZ, nyah, nyah, nhyah"
> um, has anyone actually said anything like this?

Yes, I did.


>Or have they just
> said that the masses choose WinCE?
>
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@cs.monash.edu.au     http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren

No,  I didnt.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:14:06 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: HPLX vs WinCE
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b06b1b67bd8c4c2@Ý200.10.117.121¨> from "Pablo KIM" at Jun
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> Just  for avoid that you make a wrong decision choosing a wince:
>
> > > "WinCE is better than HPLZ, nyah, nyah, nhyah"
> > um, has anyone actually said anything like this?
>
> Yes, I did.
Boy, are *you* a dickhead!


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:12:41 -0500
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              jviehweg@GVMAIL.IH.LUCENT.COM
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Subject:      Re: Driving vs. HPLX
In-Reply-To:  <H000009706c2f9a4@MHS>; from Jez Cunningham on Wed, Jun 24,
              1998 at 09:38:39AM +0200
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This is not a rules-of-the-road mailing list.

Can we stop this thread now, please?

jaime
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:25:14 -0500
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              Larry Berry <lberry@HOMER.CRANE.NAVY.MIL>
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If someone wins at Russian roulette(even multiple times), does this justify
Russian roulette as a sensible pastime?

Just the opinion of a lurker.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:27:22 -0400
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     For an HP 95 LX I am looking for a connectivity kit (new or used)
     HP part # F1001A with serial cable, 9 to 25 pin adapter 3.5" disk with
     software

     Would somebody know where this is available??
     Thanks  Kurt

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:43:01 +1000
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> If someone wins at Russian roulette (even multiple times), does this justify
> Russian roulette as a sensible pastime?

Is this that "Quality of Life" thread about programming in the can,
and waterproof hp200lx's?

Yes, I do think it's risky, and I can understand that people might be
willing to take the risk again and again if they get away with it the
first few times, becoming complacent to the danger - but sooner or later
                               *BAM!*
                   ... or rather, *SPLOOSH!* ...
and then it may be all too late.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:42:27 -0400
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              Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
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I also have the XJ1144  card modem. I tried the init string you supplied,
and things worked perfectly. I kept the port speed at 57600 and it still
functioned correctly.

I have the option of getting a Megahertz 28.8 modem, free...would that be
any better with the 200LX, or would the extra speed cause possibly more
problems?

BTW, the system I'm dialing into is an NT server running RAS!

Steve


At 10:14 PM 6/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> Well, I'm giving Goin Postal a good hard look...and it's looking real good!
>>
>> One problem though. I have a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem. If I enable modem
>> compression, I am constantly getting timeouts during my sessions. When I
>> use %C0 (I think) to disable compression, everything works fine. Is this
>> common? Would it be fixed by stepping up the clock in the 200LX (currently
>> it's a stock machine)?
>>
>> Any insight would be appreciated!!
>>
>> Oh, and BTW, I have the port set at 57600. But then again, it didn't matter
>> if I ran it at 9600 baud. I still got the timeouts!
>
>A few things to suggest.  Use 19200 for a stock machine, 57600 is too
>fast.  Also, assuming it takes the same init as my XJ1144, try using
>the following init string: ATE1Q0&C1&D2&K3  Completely exit system
>manager and try it.  If this works, make CERTAIN when running from the
>system manager that the inverted exclamation mark is in the comment field.
>Next, are you running it with message compression enabled or disabled
>(in Menu/Setup/Preferences)?
>
>If all that doesn't work, it might be an issue with the ISP that would
>require adding the "mru 576" (per the instructions) or removing the
>"-as a0000" from the EPPPD line in GP.BAT.  More likely that it's one
>of the items in the previous paragraph.
>
>Should work reliably, I've even tested it through one of the acoustic
>couplers (the Telecoupler II) and ran without a hitch.  If you need
>more help, you're welcome to contact me via the support address.
>
>I'll leave the list address on this message in case it's of use to
>anyone else getting things going.  I've finally figured out majordomo,
>so should be able to host a GP list if there's enough interest.
>
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:54:19 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Kurt Businger wrote:

>      For an HP 95 LX I am looking for a connectivity kit (new or used)
>      HP part # F1001A with serial cable, 9 to 25 pin adapter 3.5" disk with
>      software
>
>      Would somebody know where this is available??

I saw a couple of boxes of HP95 connectivity kits by a 3rd party (NuvaTech?)
being sold at a software liquidator in San Luis Obispo, CA (Software
Outlet), for $5. Included the cable and software. Don't know if that helps
you. At prices like that, I doubt they'll ship.

- Longden

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I'd like to apologise for my recent reply to the post below, both to
the list and to Pablo KIM.

Nothing personally insulting was meant.

I value the kindly atmosphere of this list, and regret that my reply
was not in line with it.

> Just  for avoid that you make a wrong decision choosing a wince:
>
> > > "WinCE is better than HPLZ, nyah, nyah, nhyah"
> > um, has anyone actually said anything like this?
>
> Yes, I did.

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Does anyone know if there are plans for an IRC client for WWW/LX?
Are there any decent dos clients?

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The timer application built into the hp200lx
--------------------------------------------

Under the Timer menu, there is an option to stop the timer at zero or
not. If you uncheck it (and the repeat (F8) is unchecked) the timer
goes negative after it reaches zero.

I use the timer extensively, but I'd never noticed this because I run
it with the function keys.

I guess this enables you to time how late you are...

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Yes, for aviation purposes. I am looking for street file equivalents.
Bob

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Could you elaborate on the GPS software available for the 200LX?  I have two
aviation systems but am looking for a street file -based system for auto use.
Thanks,
Bob

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:26:11 -0700
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Aaron Billin wrote:

> Is anyone aware of any GPS techology for the 200LX?

Yes.  There are at least two GPS programs that work on the 200LX.  Both
are on SUPER.  There's GPSCGA, a very nice shareward GPS "moving-map"
package, and LXGPS, which is freeware.  LXGPS has more nifty features
(like displaying satellite positions and signal strengths and using
standard PCX files for maps) while GPSCGA has the advantage of having an
included database of cities and airports around the world.

Hardware-wise, most any GPS unit that will connect to a serial port with
an NMEA protocol will work.  (I could be wrong on this... it's been a
while since I read up on it.)  Garmins are popular, as is the extremely
low-priced Delorme Tripmate.

To make your own maps for the 200LX, there are numerous tricks people
employ... perhaps somebody else could elaborate.  (My method involves
copy-and-paste from Street Atlas USA, and doesn't produce a very good map
because of the color scaling involved.)

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:38:26 -0400
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01h20m33s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, William England wrote:

> Does anyone know if there are plans for an IRC client for WWW/LX?
> Are there any decent dos clients?
>

There are several DOS InterNet access clients at

http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet

I beelieve there are 3 IRC clients on that site.

Cheers,

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For a review of the Delorme Tripmate (and, to some extent, GPSCGA and
LXGPS) check out the product reviews page on my site.

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Subject:      Re: UNIX on the palmtop
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At 21:06 24/06/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Has any one successfully ported minix or elks linux to the hp palmtop, and
>if so, where can it be obtained?
>
>If the answer to the above is no, would any list users like to help port
>minix to the palmtop?

I would be glad to help.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:59:56 -0400
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              James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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Hey, listers!
        I'm curious about the packet radio thread... what does packet radio DO?
is it like wireless data transfer?  If i for instance have a home network
(I don't) connected to a nice fast T3 (yeah, right) and a packet radio, can
I now "roam" as if I have my own private cellular network?
        Is there awebpage I can go to to read about this?  Electronics is a hobby
of mine, and while historically, my kink has been robotics in specific and
the interface of software and hardware in general, this thing appeals to
me...  So in the spirit of calling it a kink, someone tell me more about
this.. let's get downright pornographic.
        James

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:59:28 -0700
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> If the answer to the above is no, would any list users like to help port
> minix to the palmtop?

There's a "Minix under DOS" functioning right now, but so far it's not
released as source and everything is compiled into the kernel (so
it's too big)

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:06:11 +0200
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I am using www/lx for everything. I GET(very handy feature) the TV-guide,
daily news, usenet news, email etc. I am VERY pleased with this product.
It has made my information addicted life easier.
But..

*I want a email program capable of a 2400 conection. I sometimes whant to
use my 2400bps/6meg combo card. Sadly enough I will have to look into
GP's capabilities. Hate to have two email programs taking up space.

*I always have to delete the mail.old file. If I do not then no mail
will be downloaded. I have set it to delete on server,wich it does, but
the mail.old always shows up and mess things up. I have made
an "external" (del mail.old ) that I run before every session?!

*I have checked it not to hang up after online.Wich it does not when I
only run email. But when I run the whole package with email and News
then it hangs up after the News part is finished - why?


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:22:33 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I've looked into using Minix and ELKs on the palmtop and both products
just don't seem feasible. The closest I have come to UNIX on the palmtop
is to get all the "ported-to-dos" UNIX stuff from simtel. I also
recommend Charles Foryth's shell for DOS. It is the closest facsimile to
UNIX sh/bash I have seen. I am able to create UNIX shell scripts and
have a very UNIX-like interface but as far as multi/threading/tasking
and job scheduling goes.... Well... there ya go. The only hope of
running a really good UNIX won't happen until we get a real 386(or
better) processor. Then we could go with Linux.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Steven Lawson Ýmailto:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM¨
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                > If the answer to the above is no, would any list users
like to help port
                > minix to the palmtop?

                There's a "Minix under DOS" functioning right now, but
so far it's not
                released as source and everything is compiled into the
kernel (so
                it's too big)

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:33:31 -0600
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I was able to use the DB9 <-> DB25 addapter that came with the
connectivity pack. It is the one with the phone on it. PN 5181-6642.


On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> On 06-23 01:46pm, the following was written:
>
> > With a little help from two newgroups and an email list I have gotten
> > a Pocket Packet radio on the air. 200LX into a Tigertronics BP-2 into an
> > ADI AT-600. Running BayCom software works like a charm!
> >
> > Now - does anyone know of a .exm version of a packet client?
> > Has anyone hosted FBBS on a 200LX?
> > geeee - how 'bout a 200LX Packet email list??? 8)
> >
>
> Hmmm... a exm packet program.... I think Steven Lawson mentioned something
> about this a while back....  Out of curiosity what adapter are you using to
> convert the LX serial port to the DB25 on the Bay Pac? I had to cut <ouch>
> a extra serial cable and wire up a DB25 to the other end. My brother is
> gonna be setting up his LX for packet also and would like a less expensive
> alternative.
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff
>
>
>     *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>     |Jeff Johns  KF4KGQ  Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>     |Email: jeffj@scott.net   Urgent AlphaPager Email: pagejeff@scott.net|
>     |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
>     *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:34:02 -0400
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From time to time, the members of this list speculate on what applications they
would like to see developed for the 200LX ...and their wishes are often
fulfilled by the many excellent programmers we have among us!

With that in mind, I thought I'd toss out a few application ideas of my own,
free for anyone with the skills to put them together:

1. A look-up speller -- Unlike a spelling checker that is integrated into an
editor, or a "stand alone" spelling checker that inhales a text file to check
it, this application would allow you to check the spelling of a single word on
the fly. Simply run the program, type a word and press ÝENTER¨ to get either a
confirmation or a list a suggested spellings. To get really fancy, the program
could also supply a list of synonyms and antonyms for each word it recognises.
(Casio used to make calculator-like things that would do this.) I looked in all
the usual places (Filez, Walnut Creek, SimTel etc.) and the closest I could find
to this is the Jorj dictionary program -- which is large and doesn't really work
if you're unsure of the spelling. This should be a fairly easy hack for someone
who already has a word list for a stand-alone spell checker /thesaurus.

2. A free-form note taker that integrates with the 200LX built-in apps -- Like
FlexPad, this would allow you to hit a hot key to open a window, quickly enter
information of any kind, then hit another key to save and close. Later, one
could page through the notes at leisure, and assign them to the HP Appointments,
Phone Book, Note Taker or Database with simple keystrokes. Maybe this could be
accomplished with Smart Clip and some clever System Macros?

3. A 3D action game -- This doesn't have to be QUAKE, just something fast-moving
and challenging. Think of a real-time Lair of Squid, where you get to shoot a
the squids while picking up weapons, ammo, health etc. You might consider using
wireframe animation for faster gameplay, which suggests a tank battle game or,
better yet, a flying spacecraft game.

That should be enough to keep even the most ambitious programmers busy!  ;-)
Come on, we know you folks have the talent!

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:45:38 -0400
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Jez wrote:

 > For info and fwiw (and not to start any more wars), I have just come across
 > the Dataquest analysis of the shipments of handheld computers for 96 and 97
 > (in thousands of units):
 >
 > Company         1996    1997
 > -------         ----    ----
...
 > HP              181     241
 > Casio           19      74
 > Philips         n/a     71
...

Interesting to note that essentially, CE was rare/nonexistent for 1996.
Virtually all of HPs sales in 1996 were either DOS or GEOS based palmtops,
and the GEOS based didn't sell that well, so we can contend that HP sold a
solid 150,000 DOS/LX units.  Also, when you consider that CASIO had its
pedia out earlier than HP's CE toys, and noting that CASIO and PHILIPS had
about the same number of CE units sold in 1997, then I would suggest that
the 241 for HP in 1997 reflects a SUBSTANTIAL 200LX market, as in 1996,
they sold 181...

Perhaps not, but something to consider.  I would dare say that HP sold a
solid 300,000 - 400,000 200LX's from 1995 to 1997.

Didn't Avi say the 400,000 figure was off by magnitudes?  I doubt it.  In
fact, I would bet that from 1992-1998, HP has sold a solid 500,000 -
600,000 units, based on this data alone.  But at least 400,000.

Obviously, Avi didn't get this info.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:07:20 -0500
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              E-list etiquette  WAS: Re: Goin' Postal communications problem
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This points to an excellent table on pcmcia modems:
     http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/
It indicates that Megahertx 28.8 modems draw too much.

Please note that I have amended the subject line. It would be
nice if we would all do it when we change the subject.
Traffic is getting so heavy here, that I am deleting before
reading. I also often delete msgs when I would have to scroll
down to see new content.



Steve Meisner wrote:

> I also have the XJ1144  card modem. I tried the init string you supplied,
> and things worked perfectly. I kept the port speed at 57600 and it still
> functioned correctly.
>
> I have the option of getting a Megahertz 28.8 modem, free...would that be
> any better with the 200LX, or would the extra speed cause possibly more
> problems?
>
> BTW, the system I'm dialing into is an NT server running RAS!
>
> Steve
>
> At 10:14 PM 6/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >> Well, I'm giving Goin Postal a good hard look...and it's looking real good!
> >>
> >> One problem though. I have a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem. If I enable modem
> >> compression, I am constantly getting timeouts during my sessions. When I
> >> use %C0 (I think) to disable compression, everything works fine. Is this
> >> common? Would it be fixed by stepping up the clock in the 200LX (currently
> >> it's a stock machine)?
> >>
> >> Any insight would be appreciated!!
> >>
> >> Oh, and BTW, I have the port set at 57600. But then again, it didn't matter
> >> if I ran it at 9600 baud. I still got the timeouts!
> >
> >A few things to suggest.  Use 19200 for a stock machine, 57600 is too
> >fast.  Also, assuming it takes the same init as my XJ1144, try using
> >the following init string: ATE1Q0&C1&D2&K3  Completely exit system
> >manager and try it.  If this works, make CERTAIN when running from the
> >system manager that the inverted exclamation mark is in the comment field.
> >Next, are you running it with message compression enabled or disabled
> >(in Menu/Setup/Preferences)?
> >
> >If all that doesn't work, it might be an issue with the ISP that would
> >require adding the "mru 576" (per the instructions) or removing the
> >"-as a0000" from the EPPPD line in GP.BAT.  More likely that it's one
> >of the items in the previous paragraph.
> >
> >Should work reliably, I've even tested it through one of the acoustic
> >couplers (the Telecoupler II) and ran without a hitch.  If you need
> >more help, you're welcome to contact me via the support address.
> >
> >I'll leave the list address on this message in case it's of use to
> >anyone else getting things going.  I've finally figured out majordomo,
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:51:26 -0600
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              Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Packet Radio?
Comments: To: James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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Packet Radio is a way of sending X.25 type packets over HAM radio.
Bandwidth is restricted due to frequency. VHF (that would be 2 Meter in
HAM speak) is limited to 1200 baud - not very blindingly fast, but OK for
email. UHF (70 cm in HAM speak) allows 9600 baud. The higher frequency -
the higher thebaud (as a rule of thumb). Some folks on the amatuer radio
digital newsgroup are talking about T1 on gighertz links.

Packet is as kind of a client / server type setup. The basic packet
station has the ability to take some data (like your typing) and push it
down the stack so that it becomes a X.25 packet and gets transmitted. The
actual tranmission is very ethernet like (extra credit - look up the ALOHA
project). Client software also has the ability to send and receive binary
type data. Clientscan talk to clients is a real time mode.Clients can also
tag up to BBS systems that provide file and email services. Packet
stations can also act a repeaters (store and forward) so a user can talk
to stations far away by sending packets through other stations.

Whew!!!

It can get even more complex than that - but that's a start...


On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, James Scheffler wrote:

> Hey, listers!
>         I'm curious about the packet radio thread... what does packet radio DO?
> is it like wireless data transfer?  If i for instance have a home network
> (I don't) connected to a nice fast T3 (yeah, right) and a packet radio, can
> I now "roam" as if I have my own private cellular network?
>         Is there awebpage I can go to to read about this?  Electronics is a hobby
> of mine, and while historically, my kink has been robotics in specific and
> the interface of software and hardware in general, this thing appeals to
> me...  So in the spirit of calling it a kink, someone tell me more about
> this.. let's get downright pornographic.
>         James
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:47:56 -0500
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Comments: To: srakkt@TIAC.NET

On 06-24 09:59am, the following was written:

> Hey, listers!
>         I'm curious about the packet radio thread... what does packet radi
DO?

What we are speaking of is amateur packet radio, we ham operators use. It is
a digital means of information transfer. It typically operates at 1200 or
9600 buad. I guess in a way you could consider it a "private" network,
although it is not private. I typically send messages to people all over the
world via packet, I can transfer files from a packet BBS, it is even
possible to send packet messages over amsats (amateur satellites), MIR or
the space shuttle. Oh yeah, you can also do SSTV (slow scan amateur TV) via
packet and another hobby of many people is the downloading of weather
satellite pictures. Just think, all this is possible for the LX =)

Jeff


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Comments: To: wharfrat@PCISYS.NET

On 06-24 10:33am, the following was written:

> I was able to use the DB9 <-> DB25 addapter that came with the
> connectivity pack. It is the one with the phone on it. PN 5181-6642.
>

I use that type of adapter I was curious if you had to cut a HP cable for
the serial port adapter on the LX.

Jeff


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Subject:      Merging txt files and 123 Question

Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt file? Is there a
utility that anyone knows of that does this that will run on the LX?

On another subject, assume I have info in the following format:

xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxx,xxxx

The x's represent either a numeral, an alphabet letter A-Z, a space or a
character such as a ",*,$,/,etc.. Please note that these fields are
separated by commas and the commas would never be included within the
fields. How can I import this data into 1-2-3 so that each field is in it's
own column? The file I have with info in the above format contains about
1500 lines of info and I would love to be able to save it in .wk1 format.
Any ideas or suggestions would be welcomed.

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:09:56 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On the subject of Jorj the shareware dictionary program, has any of you
who've registered, any comments on the registered version?

How many more words can it handle? How much bigger is the database?

Does it fill a lot of gaps in the unregistered version's word list? Are
there any other perks to registration (other than warm fuzzies)?

I'd probably much prefer one of the commercial dictionaries recommended
before (ie, American Heritage Words Plus), but I can't find a copy anywhere
..  so please don't recommend one unless you can point me to a source.

Thanks.

- Longden

PS. Jorj does recognize mis-spelled words (at least some ... it correctly
defined 'tyme' as 'time' and 'anythng' as 'anything').

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:05:45 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Merging txt files and 123 Question
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt file? Is there a
> utility that anyone knows of that does this that will run on the LX?

Well... you can always do the ol'

COPY file1.txt+file2.txt file3.txt

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:18:24 -0700
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt file? Is there a
> utility that anyone knows of that does this that will run on the LX?

Try DOS COPY.

        copy file1+file2 file3

merges file1 and file2 together into file3. Remember the '+' sign. More
details if you type 'copy /?' at the DOS prompt.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:16:05 -0500
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Subject:      Handheld computer shipments...

Re Dataquest info on handheld shipments, you have to find out how they
defined "handhelds" for the numbers to have any meaning. . In various
publications from time to time you see numbers thrown out for "palmtops"
and  "organizers". I saw one where the surveying company classified
Psions under organizers, another where it was included as a palmtop,
etc..
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:22:54 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              98 10:57:56 am
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Jeff:

> Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt file? Is there a
> utility that anyone knows of that does this that will run on the LX?

Yes, it's built into your 200LX's ROM - the COPY command.  Use this
syntax:

COPY SRC1.TXT + SRC2.TXT DEST.TXT

> On another subject, assume I have info in the following format:
>
> xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxx,xxxx
>
> How can I import this data into 1-2-3 so that each field is in it's
> own column?

Look into the DATA PARSE command.  It's been awhile since I've used this
feature of 123, but I used to do it frequently.  Seems like your format
should be readily handled by 123's capabilities.

-Chris



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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:35:46 -0700
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> On another subject, assume I have info in the following format:
>
> xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxx,xxxx
>
> The x's represent either a numeral, an alphabet letter A-Z, a space or a
> character such as a ",*,$,/,etc.. Please note that these fields are
> separated by commas and the commas would never be included within the
> fields. How can I import this data into 1-2-3 so that each field is in it's
> own column? The file I have with info in the above format contains about
> 1500 lines of info and I would love to be able to save it in .wk1 format.
> Any ideas or suggestions would be welcomed.

Sounds loosely like comma-delimited-format (sans quotes). If double-quotes
aren't anywhere in the file, I would use a decent text-editor (no more
threads on this please) and change all your commas to "," and add the
double-quote to the beginning and end of each line.

Then use 123 File/Import/Numbers to read the text file in.

Also, some packages (such as Framework) can already read your original file
without editing. You may want to see if you already have some software that
does this and outputs as .wk1

- Longden

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02h12m05s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:58:43 +0000 (envelope-from srakkt@tiac.net), James =
Scheffler wrote:

> Hey, listers!
>         I'm curious about the packet radio thread...

Another good source of info on the amateur digi modes is:

http://www.tapr.org

Tucson Amateur Packet Radio

73 de Mitch N8XS

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:25:59 -0700
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I think everybody assumes that HP will discontinue the 200LX in the near
future. I wonder if this is a proper assumption. We think of the 200LX as a
computer and therefore are used to computer life cycles which are often
measured in months rather than years.

However, look at how old HP's calculator line is and how they continue to
produce the same old models year after year. I think HP might just keep the
200LX for quite a long time as long as there is some demand for the product.
What might happen is HP will just think of the 200LX as a calculator and just
sort of forget about it.

This is unfortunate. I really think HP should at least upgrade the 200LX with
backlighting (which is the only real reason I mentally flirt with the idea of
going CE or Psion).

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:41:13 -0500
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>From time to time, the members of this list speculate on what applications
>they
>would like to see developed for the 200LX ...and their wishes are often
>fulfilled by the many excellent programmers we have among us!
>
>With that in mind, I thought I'd toss out a few application ideas of my own,
>free for anyone with the skills to put them together:
>
>1. A look-up speller -- Unlike a spelling checker that is integrated into an
>editor, or a "stand alone" spelling checker that inhales a text file to check
>it, this application would allow you to check the spelling of a single word on
>the fly. Simply run the program, type a word and press ÝENTER¨ to get either a
>confirmation or a list a suggested spellings. To get really fancy, the program
>could also supply a list of synonyms and antonyms for each word it recognises.
>(Casio used to make calculator-like things that would do this.) I looked
>in all
>the usual places (Filez, Walnut Creek, SimTel etc.) and the closest I
>could find
>to this is the Jorj dictionary program -- which is large and doesn't
>really work
>if you're unsure of the spelling. This should be a fairly easy hack for
>someone
>who already has a word list for a stand-alone spell checker /thesaurus.

I have done this in two different ways and have yet to decide which I like
best. The GNU ISPELL package for DOS provides an app called LOOK which will
spell check a single word in an ASCII dictionary. I've done the same thing
with XGREP. None of the synonym/antonym functions, though, sorry. - srl

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AC6RM said
> <<snip>>

> p.s. re: packet e-mail list: this LX List has a bunch of technically
> competent hams on it; if you have a question, just toss it out.  Or mebe
> start an HP list on packet -- I'm on w6tj.socal.ca.noam I think ... flush
> out all those LX packeteers and get them on this list :)
>

I've been a Pocket packeteer since I bought my HP-95LX the first week
they were available. The current system sues a 200LX, a Pico Packet
TNC (Paccom) and an old FT-411. I power the whole shooting match with
a 1.5AH gel cell that I picked up for $2.00 from a surplus house
using a custom made cable. I use PaKet software (a DOS shareware
program that is available from lots of sites).

One of the main uses for the system is at the "Post Parade" event for
the Rose Parade. The Tournament of Roses Radio Amateurs (TORRA)
provides most of the communications for the pre-parade, the parade
itself (including ATV), and at post-parade we run a packet based
"lost person" database. Since there is no power at any of the
"remote" sites, the packet operators are required to be portable.

You should have seen the first year... I was using a Handi-Packet TNC
then, which has built-in nicads that last for 15 to 20 hours. As the
other operators were carrying their "portable" equipment in on
wagons, or on luggage carts (laptops and car batteries are heavy!), I
walked in - apparently with nothing. Someone asked where my system was
and I produced the HP-LX from one pocket, the radio was on my belt,
and the TNC was in another pocket. Someone remarked that I certainly
would run out of power before the day was up, so I calmly reached
into the first pocket and produced an 8 pack of AA batteries and said
"No, I brought redundant back up."

Another blow to the establishment in favor of the mighty palmtop!

BTW, the antenna used there is a J-pole made from 300 ohm twin lead.
This allows me to run the radio at low power (about 300mw). At this
location I need to be able to talk to a base station that is about
1/2 mile away. But I periodically switch frequencies to look at a Wx
node that is over 5 miles away and have no problems with the same
power level. (And this is in the Los Angeles area - home of the 20
volt (just kidding) noise floor).

If someone decides to get a Packet-LX discussion group going - sign
me up.

Till then - 73....


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Hello all,
I have an HP200LX with 2MB of memory (basic unit) and a 10MB HP flash
disk.  The flash disk is compressed with stacker to yield 20MB of
storage.  I'm looking to uncompress the card at this time to try reading
it in another computer (an NCR 3115 Safari Notebook computer).  I can't
find my documentation on the card.  Can somebody please post the
procedure to uncompress a flash disk?  And if anyone has any direct
experience with using a 200LX and a Safari 3115 together, I'd appreciate
any help you can provide.
PS.  I'm new to this stuff, so type slow so I can understand you.  :)
Thanks,
Dan McCann

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:34:23 -0700
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>From: Ed Padin
>recommend Charles Foryth's shell for DOS. It is the closest facsimile to
>UNIX sh/bash I have seen. I am able to create UNIX shell scripts and
>have a very UNIX-like interface but as far as multi/threading/tasking
>and job scheduling goes.... Well... there ya go.

I can't help it - here's another plug for Thompson Automation
(www.tasoft.com).  In addition to TAWK, they also have a DOS (or OS2 or NT)
shell that looks exackly like ksh with some extras (incl. vi, but CALVIN is
much quicker & smaller).  I run all versions, including DOS on the LX.  MKS
would probably also work, if ther's still a DOS version available.
But where can I find "Charles Foryth's shell for DOS"? I'd like to try it
too.
-George Coleman

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:43:56 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Go to simtel and look for ms_sh23b.zip. I haven't heard of the stuff you
mentioned so I'll go check that out also.


Be Kewl



                -----Original Message-----
                From:   George Coleman Ýmailto:gjcoleman@CSI.COM¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 24, 1998 2:34 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ UNIX on the palmtop

                >From: Ed Padin
                >recommend Charles Foryth's shell for DOS. It is the
closest facsimile to
                >UNIX sh/bash I have seen. I am able to create UNIX
shell scripts and
                >have a very UNIX-like interface but as far as
multi/threading/tasking
                >and job scheduling goes.... Well... there ya go.

                I can't help it - here's another plug for Thompson
Automation
                (www.tasoft.com).  In addition to TAWK, they also have a
DOS (or OS2 or NT)
                shell that looks exackly like ksh with some extras
(incl. vi, but CALVIN is
                much quicker & smaller).  I run all versions, including
DOS on the LX.  MKS
                would probably also work, if ther's still a DOS version
available.
                But where can I find "Charles Foryth's shell for DOS"?
I'd like to try it
                too.
                -George Coleman

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:43:13 -0700
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>Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt file? Is there a
>utility that anyone knows of that does this that will run on the LX?
Now, see, if you had AWK (or PERL) on your LX, this would be a snap.
Otherwise, you can open one with Memo and then File|Insert the other one.

>On another subject, assume I have info in the following format:
>
>xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxx,xxxx
>
>The x's represent either a numeral, an alphabet letter A-Z, a space or a
>character such as a ",*,$,/,etc.. Please note that these fields are
>separated by commas and the commas would never be included within the
>fields. How can I import this data into 1-2-3 so that each field is in it's
>own column? The file I have with info in the above format contains about
>1500 lines of info and I would love to be able to save it in .wk1 format.
>Any ideas or suggestions would be welcomed.
>
>Jeff
There is an add-on, 123dlm.adn, that does this.  It works.  I think I got it
from CompuServe/HPHAND, or it might have been S.U.P.E.R..  The downloadable
is called 123dlm.zip.

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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:14:29 -0700, Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM> =
wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Does anyone know of a way to use the hplx menu key to bring up the
> WordPerfect menu?
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
> PGP Key fingerprint =3D  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF =
8D
> Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

The ÝALT¨ replaces the ÝMenu¨ key while in WordPerfect.



Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0b.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:02:59 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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How about:

C:>type file1.txt > file3.txt
C:>type file2.txt >> file3.txt

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   George Coleman Ýmailto:gjcoleman@CSI.COM¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 24, 1998 2:43 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Merging txt files and 123
Question

                >Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt
file? Is there a
                >utility that anyone knows of that does this that will
run on the LX?
                Now, see, if you had AWK (or PERL) on your LX, this
would be a snap.
                Otherwise, you can open one with Memo and then
File|Insert the other one.

                >On another subject, assume I have info in the following
format:
                >
                >xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxx,xxxx
                >
                >The x's represent either a numeral, an alphabet letter
A-Z, a space or a
                >character such as a ",*,$,/,etc.. Please note that
these fields are
                >separated by commas and the commas would never be
included within the
                >fields. How can I import this data into 1-2-3 so that
each field is in it's
                >own column? The file I have with info in the above
format contains about
                >1500 lines of info and I would love to be able to save
it in .wk1 format.
                >Any ideas or suggestions would be welcomed.
                >
                >Jeff
                There is an add-on, 123dlm.adn, that does this.  It
works.  I think I got it
                from CompuServe/HPHAND, or it might have been
S.U.P.E.R..  The downloadable
                is called 123dlm.zip.

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Subject:      Goin' Postal 2.x ?????

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a shell or run any other
programs {telnet ftp web browser etc..} whilst connected using GP?.

If not what is the best all in one Internet Package that is able to connect
using both a modem and via a direct PPP connection through the serial port?.


daz
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.06beta) EVALUATION

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In a message dated 98-06-24 13:34:20 EDT, hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM writes:

> I think everybody assumes that HP will discontinue the 200LX in the near
>  future. I wonder if this is a proper assumption. We think of the 200LX as a
>  computer and therefore are used to computer life cycles which are often
>  measured in months rather than years.
>
>  However, look at how old HP's calculator line is and how they continue to
>  produce the same old models year after year. I think HP might just keep the
>  200LX for quite a long time as long as there is some demand for the
product.
>  What might happen is HP will just think of the 200LX as a calculator and
> just
>  sort of forget about it.
>
>  This is unfortunate. I really think HP should at least upgrade the 200LX
> with
>  backlighting (which is the only real reason I mentally flirt with the idea
> of
>  going CE or Psion).

I agree.  Backlighting would really sweeten the deal.  I was really in need of
it these last few days, but somehow I managed without.  It would have been
better to have it, though!

I remember the arguments against having Indiglo-style backlighting a few years
ago, and that has all been refuted.  The 200LX is one of the last without
backlighting...or maybe it IS the last.

Mark

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:03:43 EST
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Subject:      Re: Another Pocket Packet Ham

> I've been a Pocket packeteer since I bought my HP-95LX the first week
> they were available. The current system sues a 200LX, a Pico Packet
> TNC (Paccom) and an old FT-411. I power the whole shooting match with
> a 1.5AH gel cell that I picked up for $2.00 from a surplus house
> using a custom made cable. I use PaKet software (a DOS shareware
> program that is available from lots of sites).
>
> stuff deleted ...
>
> You should have seen the first year... I was using a Handi-Packet TNC
> then, which has built-in nicads that last for 15 to 20 hours. As the
> other operators were carrying their "portable" equipment in on
> wagons, or on luggage carts (laptops and car batteries are heavy!), I
> walked in - apparently with nothing. Someone asked where my system was
> and I produced the HP-LX from one pocket, the radio was on my belt,
> and the TNC was in another pocket. Someone remarked that I certainly
> would run out of power before the day was up, so I calmly reached
> into the first pocket and produced an 8 pack of AA batteries and said
> "No, I brought redundant back up."
>

Just curious why you switched from the Handi-Packet to the Pico
packet? What are the relative sizes of these two? I have the one that
HeathKit used to sell, can't remember its name. It is about the size
of a pack of cigarettes and has an internal nicd battery.

Pete - WB4TKA


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:57:07 +0000
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              Reino Sorlie <ras67@INAME.COM>
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Is it possible to transfer files between the 320LX and 200LX / 700LX ?
If so - how ?
The one I'm trying with is a 320LX with the CE 2.0 upgrade.

With my knowledge, it seems to only accept IP-protocol settings.
I have looked at the 'terminal'-software in the 320LX, but I can't find
bit-rate-settings for the IrDA - why ?

What I would like to know:

- What software/settings on the 320LX (TERMINAL ?)
- What software/settings on the 200LX/700LX (FILER ?)


If you know how to for the 360LX, I think this is almost the same macine,
but 6xx, I don't know.

As a 700LX-user, the only thing I like on the 320LX is the big screen and
the backlight, but the software and the speed - hah!
What if someone made a 'DOS-upgrade-ROM' for this kind of machine, would
that mean speed ?

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There are several software packages that run on the HPLX on the S.U.P.E.R.
internet site that do GPS.  Several GPS receivers put out serial data that
can be read by these software packages.  DeLorme has one of the most
inexpensive receivers on the market.
Regards.....Jim J.





Aaron Billin <abillin@POL.NET> on 06/24/98 02:06:15 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
      respond to Aaron Billin <abillin@POL.NET>

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Subject:  GPS technology




Is anyone aware of any GPS techology or the 200LX?

Aaron

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:01:50 -0500
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Like the "off topic" choices Jez.   Interesting stuff!
Jim J.

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Rick,
I got the Marcan upgrade and have been VERY happy with it.   It's a great
buy at $69.00.   I installed it myself,  but after resoldering the surface
mount connector 3 times (and restarting my heart twice), I would recommend
that you let Marcan do it, since they have a whole bunch of experience.  I
have a 14.4K Megahertz modem and it seems to work fine in the PCMCIA slot.
Can't comment on the other questions, but I know that the list will fill in
where I have not.
Good computing,
Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN

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Date:         Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:00:32 -0500
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<The company I work for, Inergy Online, offers a free (to start with)
service over the net.  You get an account with us for free, and you get a
web-based email address, word processor, contact manager, web site
designer, calculator, image capture tool and more.  The unique thing about
our offering is that is is all server-side; all you need on your side is a
web browser and internet access.  All data is stored on our systems<snip.>


Ok....this sounds too good to be true!  What am I missing?
Jim J.

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > I was always able to watch for the police at the same time.
> >
> > I did this for years.  Never a ticket or a problem.
>
> Gee!
>
> Wow!
>
> I guess that makes it GOOD and RIGHT!

Well, we all make our own choices and judgements.  I've made mine.
You've made yours.  Sounds like everything is ok to me.

Barry

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Comments: To: darren@HPLX.TUFF.ORG.UK

On 06-24 07:37pm, the following was written:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a shell or run any other
> programs {telnet ftp web browser etc..} whilst connected using GP?.

Just press <Alt><S> when thge dialing process starts, when it finishes
getting and sending mail it will drop to the DOS prompt and leave the packet
driver loaded, you can the do telnet, ftp, nntp, irc, etc..

Jeff


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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

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> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a shell or run any other
> programs {telnet ftp web browser etc..} whilst connected using GP?.

You can shell to DOS during the online session using Alt-S, then run
any WATTCP-compatible program.  MT is a telnet client, downloadable from
SUPER.  I know others use LXNNTP for news.  GP will talk direct serial
link by setting up a Locale with the phone number as WIRE.  This will
use the baud rate in modem setup, but ignores the port setting and always
uses COM1.  I use it this way when at home, connected to my FreeBSD box.

> If not what is the best all in one Internet Package that is able to connect
> using both a modem and via a direct PPP connection through the serial port?.

I see you're still using 1.06beta, you'll certainly want to download the
2.15 release (same site you got 1.06beta).  The link on SUPER is still
good, it just hasn't been updated to say the right version yet.  Version
2 has *alot* more features, and if you've got the disk space you can
turn off compression and speed it up even more.

If you need web browsing, I can't think of anything but WWW/LX - you
can probably use Bobcat or Lynx under GP but I'd think WWW/LX would
be a hands-down winner for web browsing.  I don't know if it handles
direct serial, Avi could tell you.

> daz
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.06beta) EVALUATION

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> > I have an HP200LX with 2MB of memory (basic unit) and a 10MB HP flash
> > disk.  The flash disk is compressed with stacker to yield 20MB of
> > storage.  I'm looking to uncompress the card at this time to try reading
> > it in another computer (an NCR 3115 Safari Notebook computer).

> Q: are you willing to lose all the data?

I take it this means there's no way to "unstack" the card?  I can back
it up to my NT drives but I'd rather not if I don't have to.  I thought
there was a utility that would remove the compression if there was
enough room to decompress the files.
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:58:56 -0400
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I am curious to how you use GET to retrieve the TV-Guide.


R¬2

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomas Moberg ÝSMTP:Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE¨
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 11:06 AM
> Subject:      some more www/lx
>
> I am using www/lx for everything. I GET(very handy feature) the
> TV-guide,
> daily news, usenet news, email etc. I am VERY pleased with this
> product.
> It has made my information addicted life easier.
> But..
>
> *I want a email program capable of a 2400 conection. I sometimes whant
> to
> use my 2400bps/6meg combo card. Sadly enough I will have to look into
> GP's capabilities. Hate to have two email programs taking up space.
>
> *I always have to delete the mail.old file. If I do not then no mail
> will be downloaded. I have set it to delete on server,wich it does,
> but
> the mail.old always shows up and mess things up. I have made
> an "external" (del mail.old ) that I run before every session?!
>
> *I have checked it not to hang up after online.Wich it does not when I
> only run email. But when I run the whole package with email and News
> then it hangs up after the News part is finished - why?
>
>
>   /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***
>
>                     64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
>
>                     10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
>                     20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
>                     30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
>                     40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
>                     50  LET Micro$oft = 666

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I'm having problems creating a proper .pcx file for use with LXGPS.  Can
anyone recommend a conversion program (and the location where I can
download it) which can output the proper format?


...lars

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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 jjohnson@tmcc.com wrote:

> <The company I work for, Inergy Online, offers a free (to start with)
> service over the net.  You get an account with us for free, and you get a
> web-based email address, word processor, contact manager, web site
> designer, calculator, image capture tool and more.  The unique thing about
> our offering is that is is all server-side; all you need on your side is a
> web browser and internet access.  All data is stored on our systems<snip.>
>
>
> Ok....this sounds too good to be true!  What am I missing?
> Jim J.
>
>

Nothing, really.  No banner ads, no emails selling other companies'
products, no credit card numbers unless you want to upgrade.

The only downside is that the word processor and scheduler go away in 45
days, and you only get 2MB of storage.  The upgrade to get 10MB storage
and both features back is only $60 a year.  That's the catch; we're hoping
you'll like the service enough to want more disk space or extra features.
but the web site, email, and calculator are free.

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> 3. A 3D action game -- This doesn't have to be QUAKE

The problem with an action game is that LCD displays can be hard to see
with any fast movements.

My personal preference is to see a good Cribbage game and maybe some
sort of logic game like Everett Kaser's Sherlock.

Russ

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> Under the Timer menu, there is an option to stop the timer at zero or
> not. If you uncheck it (and the repeat (F8) is unchecked) the timer
> goes negative after it reaches zero.

Hmmm.... So it does. Interessting, what could they have had in
mind?

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William,

> Does anyone know if there are plans for an IRC client for WWW/LX?
> Are there any decent dos clients?

I take it you really address this to the D&A people, since no
one else would likely know what their plans are :) ...

So I took the liberty to reply. You are the third, maybe
fourth such request.

IRC means stay online to chat, which is somewhat outside the
philosophy we took with WWW/LX: Get online, grab the stuff you
need, send the stuff you prepared offline, and get off! So I
am not sure (1) that there is a lot of demand for it, and (2)
that it is enough to convince Andreas to spend the time on it.

Someone suggested that there is another interesting IRC client
and asked if we would contact that person. I don't know that
developer, and frankly, my incentive to do it is tiny-tiny. If
that developer contacted us, I'll be glad to talk with him and
see what can be done, and if it makes sense at all.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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> Perhaps not, but something to consider.  I would dare say that HP sold =
a
> solid 300,000 - 400,000 200LX's from 1995 to 1997.
>
> Didn't Avi say the 400,000 figure was off by magnitudes?  I doubt it.  =
In
> fact, I would bet that from 1992-1998, HP has sold a solid 500,000 -
> 600,000 units, based on this data alone.  But at least 400,000.
>
> Obviously, Avi didn't get this info.

I used "magnitudes" loosely, not mathematically as was pointed
out. The 200LX began selling August 1, 1994. The 100LX and
95LX were selling large numbers in previous years. Then umbers
I was told count 95LX separately from 100-200LX. The numbers
you estimated are still lower than what I have been told.
(Oops! So now you know the direction of the "off"ness :) ...)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

General question:

Let's say someone said 400 and then modified the magnitudes
up: So what would it be like:

1 magnitude would be 4000, two magnitudes 40,000 etc? Mind
you, I am not implying that 400,000 plus magnitudes as I
asserted would mean at least 40,000,000 - that would be
hilarious! But I really asking for infomation on the use of
the word. The way I used it is more like "multiples" of the
quoted numbers, and I was told it is incorrect usage. So what
is correct? TIA...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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>From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

File merging?  You'd have to describe how you want them merged.
The simplest way would be to append them together with COPY like:

   COPY file1+file2 newfile

Russ

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If both have a PCMCIA slot, a small SRAM card
would be fast. Somebody on thsi list may be able
to supply one for less than $20.
Files would probably have to be saved-as plain text.

Reino Sorlie wrote:

> Is it possible to transfer files between the 320LX and 200LX / 700LX ?
> If so - how ?
> The one I'm trying with is a 320LX with the CE 2.0 upgrade.
>
> With my knowledge, it seems to only accept IP-protocol settings.
> I have looked at the 'terminal'-software in the 320LX, but I can't find
> bit-rate-settings for the IrDA - why ?
>
> What I would like to know:
>
> - What software/settings on the 320LX (TERMINAL ?)
> - What software/settings on the 200LX/700LX (FILER ?)
>
> If you know how to for the 360LX, I think this is almost the same macine,
> but 6xx, I don't know.
>
> As a 700LX-user, the only thing I like on the 320LX is the big screen and
> the backlight, but the software and the speed - hah!
> What if someone made a 'DOS-upgrade-ROM' for this kind of machine, would
> that mean speed ?
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>If someone wins at Russian roulette(even multiple times), does this
>justify Russian roulette as a sensible pastime?

Russian roulette only hurts the jolly player and is therefore more
sensible than driving while doing other things.

Jorgen

  =

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>I don=3D27t know if anyone else has experienced this - my internet acces=
s
at =3D
>home has become much quicker since the World Cup (or whatever it=3D27s =3D=

>called) has started.

It also helps that the University students are at exams/holiday plus
Wimbledon is underway. =


But you are right: soccer is actually both good and useful after all.

Jorgen
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Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:22:15 -0400 (EDT)

02h22m01s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Larry Soo wrote:

> I'm having problems creating a proper .pcx file for use with LXGPS.  =
Can
> anyone recommend a conversion program (and the location where I can
> download it) which can output the proper format?

Hi-

Not sure if this is what you have in mind, but LXPIC will accept
several inage formats, and can convert them to B&W .pcx files.

You can find it on SUPER:

        http:\\www.palmtop.net\super.html

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Hello LXTCP users

I increased the baud rate in the pppd.cfg file from 14400
to 33600. After doing this my mail is uploaded to my ISP's
mail server with LXPOP just fine (according to LXPOP)
 however no one ever
recieves anything. I even garbled a few email addresses and
sent them. Never got them back. So I changed the baud rate
back. Same problem. Tried differant baud rates from 2400 to
19200. No change. I can download mail, send messages to
usenet, download messages to usenet, and ftp using the
LXFTP just fine. Is anyone running LXTCP at a faster baud
rate than 14400? Has anyone else experieced this problem?
Any comments?

Thanks

John

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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:53:47 Jan Allbright
<wharfrat@pcisys.net> wrote:

>Errrr.
>How 'bout just driving so I don't have to roll out and scrape
>your butt off the pavement?

>>>Juggling a cell phone, palmtop, engineering notebook
>>>and a datasheet from the driver's seat can be quite
>>>a challenge.

>> Why not a lapdesk, or even just a board. You can attach
<snip>

This particular sub-thread had to do with what one
could use to juggle stuff while _parked_. I omitted
a bunch of stuff when I responded to the preceding
post.

My HP goes into my jacket pocket before I put
the car in gear--I've almost been clipped by cell
phonies, beauty contestants, and other distracted
drivers so often that...well, suffice it to say that I'm
not inclined to risk returning the favour.

S.Todd

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:18:26 +1000
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> I also
> recommend Charles Foryth's shell for DOS. It is the closest facsimile to
> UNIX sh/bash I have seen.
Though not a programmable shell, wced is an excellent commandline
completion utility, small and fast. Better than tsch in this respect.

> ...but as far as multi/threading/tasking and job scheduling goes...
A while back someone raised my hopes that there was a small program
that could do multi-tasking in DOS (not Desqview) ....


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> 3. A 3D action game -- This doesn't have to be QUAKE, just something
> fast-moving and challenging. Think of a real-time Lair of Squid,
> where you get to shoot a the squids while picking up weapons, ammo,
> health etc. You might consider using wireframe animation for faster
> gameplay, which suggests a tank battle game or, better yet, a flying
> spacecraft game.

Have a look at the DOS star wars game. It is fast on the palmtop.
Sorry, can't remember where to find it; maybe someone else does.

It certainly demonstrates that what you suggest is possible.

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              Dennis Bell <dbell@WRQ.COM>
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David Sargent writes:

(My method involves
copy-and-paste from Street Atlas USA, and doesn't produce a very good map
because of the color scaling involved.)

There actually is a way to get a good quality B&W map out of Street Atlas.
It involves mucking with the color configurations contained in the file
named  color.clr  in your delorme directory:

Specifically, copy the file  color.clr  to another name (like color.sav);
Then edit color.clr and replace all of the configuration
lines with those at the bottom of this message, and save.  While you're
at it save this file as color.b&w also, so you can easily change to
and from B&W mode and COLOR mode.  Then run SA and you should get
all colors removed (except water is dark blue Ýblack in monochrome¨)
You can change any of my colors to ones that you prefer.

When you now copy to the clipboard and paste
into a PCX file using Paintbrush (or any other graphics program that
handles B&W .pcx files) it comes out clear and legible.  Street Atlas
is handy because it produces maps with straight latitudes and
it is very easy to get exact lat & long for the indexing points.  Adjacent
maps join together quite accurately, at least in a 4x4 matrix; after
that, some distortion creeps in.

I will send my version of the COLOR.CLR file (for monochrome maps)  in a
subsequent message.

I do not yet have a GPS unit, but I am informed by some LX users
that my method works well.

Dennis Bell
GPS-less in Seattle


P.S.  I will send my version of the COLOR.CLR file (for monochrome maps)
in a subsequent message.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:57:43 -0700
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Here is my B&W version of COLOR.CLR for Street Atlas (ver. 3.0  or  4.0):

; Color.clr edited 6-24-98 by Dennis Bell

0 0 0 0 black
1 255 255 255 white
2 255 255 0 yellow_70_ko
3 255 128 0 orange
4 0 0 0 green 0 255 0
5 0 0 0 red 255 0 0
6 0 0 0 cyan 0 0 255
7 0 0 0 blue 0 0 255
8 158 158 158 dk_gray
9 0 0 128 dk_blue
10 0 0 0 dk_green 0 128 0
11 0   0   255 pale_cyan 224 255 255
12 177 126 20 dk red
13 255 0 255 magenta
14 255 255 255 land_tint_pale_yellow
15 192 192 192 lt_gray_10k_military_op
21 190 209 188 Military Reservations
22 221 192 166 Tribal lands
23 255 255 192 1000-3000.screen_3000-7000.print_20y
24 255 255 162 3000-7000.screen_7000-10000.print_40y
25 254 235 146 Urbans/Populated areas (jc)
26 179 231 255
27 210 174 2 mud_rock_sand_10m_40y_20k
33 252 241 228 oil/gas_fields
34 70 236 166 inundated areas(blue green)
39 236 250 251 salt_pans
41 226 217 211 quarries
45 153 255 255 below_sea_level
48 255 255 255 state_forest/park_(experimental_color) (jc)  130 245 135
49 110 235 115  nat_forest/park (jc)
50 255 255 255 green 2 (jc) 96 192 96
51 0  0  0 red 3 (jc) 255 128 128
52 0 0 255 cyan 2 (jc) 160 160 255
53 96 96 255 blue 2 (jc)
54 0 0 0 dk blue 2 (jc) 123 123 255
55 0 0 255 pale cyan 2 (jc) 208 224 255
56 0  0  0  red 2 (jc) 255 96 96
57 210 212 214 mag 16 hwy  160 160 lt gray 2 (jc)
58 128 0 255  color for the preffered route
59 160 255 160 Woodlands

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On 24 Jun 1998 Longden C. Loo
<lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM> wrote:

>I'd probably much prefer one of the commercial dictionaries
>recommended before (ie, American Heritage Words Plus),
>but I can't find a copy anywhere ...  so please don't =

>recommend one unless you can point me to a source.

Collins is still available, although references are deeply
buried in web site. See the Collins English faq document
and the printable order form at:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk

You can reach the order form directly at:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk/orderfrm.htm

or contact:

sales@rhcc.co.uk

Hal Goldstein of Thaddeus (publisher of The HP Palmtop
Paper) recently indicated in CompuServe's HPHAND forum
that they plan to carry the dictionary. You can try =

contacting Thaddeus at:

orders@thaddeus.com

(I don't know if the order people know about this yet--
but Thaddeus isn't _that_ big.)

S.Todd

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Undocumented DOS Commands
(I can't remember where I got this, but it should be helpful.)

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On 24 Jun 1998 Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM> wrote:

>Does anyone know of a way to use the hplx menu key to bring up the
>WordPerfect menu?

You might want to try the 200LX's built-in key re-mapper key200.
The .exe and .txt (documentation) files are in d:\bin.

I haven't tried to use it with WP, but I've used it for other DOS
programs.

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I use it for timing meeting parts during the Theocratic Ministry School
and the Service meeting.

On the TMS we have a 15 min talk, a 6 min talk and three 5 min talks.
School overseer has a max of two min for comments between each of the
talks.
Service meeting is variable but this week for example we had a 10 min
part, a 20 min part and a 15 min part.
The negative reading is Wonderfull

On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > Under the Timer menu, there is an option to stop the timer at zero or
> > not. If you uncheck it (and the repeat (F8) is unchecked) the timer
> > goes negative after it reaches zero.
>
> Hmmm.... So it does. Interessting, what could they have had in
> mind?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Rod

I called the ISP but they weren't much help. They kept
trying to find fault with the configuration of LXTCP. I was
able to send a message to them using LXTCP. Of course the
message didn't have to leave the system so I don't know any
more than if I sent a message to myself. The guy I talked
to, of course, never heard of dosppp or waterloo or lxpop.

I am trying to find out what software they are using and
trying to get these people to contact the system
administrator to see what he can do. I don't know what luck
I'll have because as far as I know I'm the only person
using LXTCP on the system and they were already saying I
should use one of their software packages to access the
system. I don't want to do that. I've used slip minuet
before and its a pain- LXTCP is much better. Besides I
can't get Minuet onto my 2 meg c drive. LXTCP fits there
very nicely and only takes up 360k. And LXTCP runs under
System Manager very well.

I hope you figure out whats wrong- its a tough problem. It
was working though so I don't see why it can't work again.
If only there was some way to trace these emails to see
what's happening to them. I wish I could give you more
information then LXPOP uploads the emails fine but then no
one recieves them.

Take care

John

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Ooops!  Please disregard this thread.
Stupid Netscape Composer wouldn't paste, I'll try again.
Sorry.

Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Undocumented DOS Commands
> (I can't remember where I got this, but it should be helpful.)
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Jez Cunningham wrote:


> and finally:
> - fiber-optic cable is being installed (world-wide) at the speed of sound!!
> (~750 miles per hour)

Claiming that it is being installed at the speed of sound is a bit
misleading, isn't it? I mean obviously you never reach the speed of sound
as the cable is being installed in several different places (and
directions) at the same time...

Still, those were interesting facts!


Regards,

Laust

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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Ed Padin wrote:

> Go to simtel and look for ms_sh23b.zip. I haven't heard of the stuff you
> mentioned so I'll go check that out also.

Specifically the "Gnuish" section of Simtel.

ms_sh is rather big (200kb exe) and takes a while to get installed, but it
runs well on the LX, especially if you have EMS and perhaps a double-speed
machine :-)

I prefer 4DOS though, although it is not as Unixy.


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Oops- sorry, this was supposed to go to Rod Whitby.
Didn't mean to waste bandwidth.

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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:14:29 -0700, Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way to use the hplx menu key to bring up the
> > WordPerfect menu?
> >
>
> The ÝALT¨ replaces the ÝMenu¨ key while in WordPerfect.

While it is true the ÝAlt¨ key can be set to act as a menu-key, the "true"
one (built-in and always availiable) is actually ÝAlt Gr¨-Ý"Key next to
Backspace"¨ (at least on my keyboard - there may be a national difference)

As someone suggested, key200 may be the best soloution, but I'm not sure
the LX has an ÝAlt Gr¨ button or that the key combination can be
reproduced on the LX. In that case, setting the ÝAlt¨ key to work as
menu-key is the best choice (or just learn the shortcuts instead of using
the menu :-)


Regards,

Laust

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I can confirm that, I have a Megahertz/USR 28.8 modem (model XJ4228M, flash upgraded
to 33.6) for my laptop, it doesn't work on my 200lx.  It has a 190mA current draw
when connected.

Stan Peters wrote:

> This points to an excellent table on pcmcia modems:
>      http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/
> It indicates that Megahertx 28.8 modems draw too much.
>
> Please note that I have amended the subject line. It would be
> nice if we would all do it when we change the subject.
> Traffic is getting so heavy here, that I am deleting before
> reading. I also often delete msgs when I would have to scroll
> down to see new content.
>
> Steve Meisner wrote:
>
> > I also have the XJ1144  card modem. I tried the init string you supplied,
> > and things worked perfectly. I kept the port speed at 57600 and it still
> > functioned correctly.
> >
> > I have the option of getting a Megahertz 28.8 modem, free...would that be
> > any better with the 200LX, or would the extra speed cause possibly more
> > problems?
> >
> > BTW, the system I'm dialing into is an NT server running RAS!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > At 10:14 PM 6/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
> > >> Well, I'm giving Goin Postal a good hard look...and it's looking real good!
> > >>
> > >> One problem though. I have a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem. If I enable modem
> > >> compression, I am constantly getting timeouts during my sessions. When I
> > >> use %C0 (I think) to disable compression, everything works fine. Is this
> > >> common? Would it be fixed by stepping up the clock in the 200LX (currently
> > >> it's a stock machine)?
> > >>
> > >> Any insight would be appreciated!!
> > >>
> > >> Oh, and BTW, I have the port set at 57600. But then again, it didn't matter
> > >> if I ran it at 9600 baud. I still got the timeouts!
> > >
> > >A few things to suggest.  Use 19200 for a stock machine, 57600 is too
> > >fast.  Also, assuming it takes the same init as my XJ1144, try using
> > >the following init string: ATE1Q0&C1&D2&K3  Completely exit system
> > >manager and try it.  If this works, make CERTAIN when running from the
> > >system manager that the inverted exclamation mark is in the comment field.
> > >Next, are you running it with message compression enabled or disabled
> > >(in Menu/Setup/Preferences)?
> > >
> > >If all that doesn't work, it might be an issue with the ISP that would
> > >require adding the "mru 576" (per the instructions) or removing the
> > >"-as a0000" from the EPPPD line in GP.BAT.  More likely that it's one
> > >of the items in the previous paragraph.
> > >
> > >Should work reliably, I've even tested it through one of the acoustic
> > >couplers (the Telecoupler II) and ran without a hitch.  If you need
> > >more help, you're welcome to contact me via the support address.
> > >
> > >I'll leave the list address on this message in case it's of use to
> > >anyone else getting things going.  I've finally figured out majordomo,
> > >so should be able to host a GP list if there's enough interest.
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Oh, I hope you're right!

Richard


David Hart wrote:

> I think everybody assumes that HP will discontinue the 200LX in the near
> future. I wonder if this is a proper assumption. We think of the 200LX as a
> computer and therefore are used to computer life cycles which are often
> measured in months rather than years.
>
> However, look at how old HP's calculator line is and how they continue to
> produce the same old models year after year. I think HP might just keep the
> 200LX for quite a long time as long as there is some demand for the product.
> What might happen is HP will just think of the 200LX as a calculator and just
> sort of forget about it.
>
> This is unfortunate. I really think HP should at least upgrade the 200LX with
> backlighting (which is the only real reason I mentally flirt with the idea of
> going CE or Psion).
>
> ===
> Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
> Dayton, OH USA
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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:00:36 EDT
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If you're timing a presentation designed to fit into a fixed time and you
run into negative time when using the timer you know how much to cut out.

- Danny


Text of message from bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU, 24 Jun 1998, 10:11 AM
> The timer application built into the hp200lx
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Under the Timer menu, there is an option to stop the timer at zero or
> not. If you uncheck it (and the repeat (F8) is unchecked) the timer
> goes negative after it reaches zero.
>
> I use the timer extensively, but I'd never noticed this because I run
> it with the function keys.
>
> I guess this enables you to time how late you are...
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Has anyone considered putting this group on a forum or message board?
The threads would be easier to see and there might be fewer repeated
answers, and therefore less wasted bandwidth.

The only disadvantage I can see is that it would be harder to download
the messages to the palmtop and read them on the go.  (I was thinking of
using palmtop.com for that)

BTW: does WWW/LX, HV, etc, do CGI scripts?

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:15:49 -0400
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>I think everybody assumes that HP will discontinue the 200LX in
>the near
>future. I wonder if this is a proper assumption. We think of
>the 200LX as a
>computer and therefore are used to computer life cycles which
>are often
>measured in months rather than years.

There was a rumor on this list, a while back, when CE first
came out, that said Marketing at HP said they were dropping
all other handheld lines and just going with CE handhelds.
And then HP seperated its palmtop division from its
calculator division. Maybe thats what people sare going by.







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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:39:06 +1000
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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Yes it will store and print, so long as the printer is turned on and
on-line, without being connected to a computer. To retrieve stored messages
you usually just send a manual receive command.
Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location - www.privacy.com.au



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Subject:        Fax hardware

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Reply to note from Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>,
Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:04:45 +1000


> I have used a MicroFax 144 external fax-modem for the last 3 years
> and it is the perfect companion to a HP100LX 1meg.
>
> only 6cmx11cmx2cm

> will receive faxes and print them directly to the connected printer

> or store up to 15 pages for later retrieval without having to be
> connected to my palmtop.

Two questions;

First do you mean it will receive the fax and store it
without being attached to the computer?

Second do you mean it will print them to the printer
WITHOUT being attached to the computer?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:29:34 +1000
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>There's a "Minix under DOS" functioning right now, but so far it's not
>released as source and everything is compiled into the kernel (so
>it's too big)
>

Where can this be obtained from?

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:03:15 -0700
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Subject:      geek wireless

I just have to tell you what I just did, it's so cool and reeks
of pure geek. :-)

As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!

It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird
velcro-wrapped 'thing' about twice the size - but it was wireless!

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:23:55 -0400
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>1.  I want to upgrade the memory capacity of my 200LX.  I am
>considering
>the 4 Meg internal upgrade from Marcan for a couple of
>reasons.
>        -I only have a limited budget so this is very
<snip>

Get as much memory on the 200LX as you can afford. The
reason is your c drive will fill up quite quickly if you
store programs and data on it (I have quite a few programs
on my c drive that I want to be availible no matter what
card I have in the pc card slot) and if you want to use a
fast pc card modem you'll need plenty of room on the c
drive for something like the complete WWW/LX package
(highly reccommendeed for web browsing).
Otherwise you're stuck with the slow uart and a serial
modem on com1 if you put everything on a flashcard.
You can also go with a combo modem/flash but they are
expensive. And your limited to 14.4 or lower modems.


>2.  I'd like to get a modem card.  The main purpose for this
>would
<snip>

This is what I've heard. You get max on a single speed
about 19.2k and doublespeed 28.8k because of the unbuffered
cpu. I've never been able to go more than 9.6k on my 200LXs
(I've had two) 14.4k with LXTCP 9.6k everything else.
 So unless your planning on upgrading your
200LX to a doublespeed you might as well go with a 14.4
modem. I use an EXP 14.4 modem and get an easy 2 hours with
it on batteries (1300mah nimh's). I think is uses about 100
ma or 125 ma full bore.

>3.  I'm also thinking about the possibility of getting the x2
>crystal
>upgrade from Times 2 Tech if it would speed things up

I haven't upgraded the speed on mine yet but I've only
heard good things about both Marcan and T2T. Plus I've
never heard about people having problems with the speed
upgrade. You have to remember HP is running the
microprocessor at half speed to increase battery life. All
you're doing with the speed upgrade is upping the speed to
what the microprocessor was designed to run.
<snip>


>Would making all three of these upgrades shorten the expected
>life of my
>200LX?  I am particularly concerned about heat generation.  I'd
<snip>

In one word- no.
Although with the speed upgrade you will get shortened
battery life. But I've heard its not signifigant. About 10%
less or something like that.

>I'd consider having Times 2 Tech upgrade the memory to 8 Meg at
>the same
>time as the crystal but it's more expensive and I'm not sure
>I'd need to
>have that much memory.  I'm sure people will recommend to
>upgrade as
>much as I can afford, but if I could spend $69 to get to 4 Meg
>and $75
>to get the double speed then I could use the difference toward
>a pretty
>large flash card.

With the T2T upgrade you also get an EMM driver with the
Marcan you don't. Freeware EMM drivers don't work. So if
your planning on running programs that use EMM I'd go with
T2T


>4.  What software is recommended for reading email?  I assume
>that the
>available programs will only be able to process text and not
>graphics or
>the 'attached' files that can be sent via Netscape or Outlook.
>Can
>someone provide some more insight?  I'd love to be able to get
>graphics
>and attachments but I'm not holding my breath.

There are 4 ways (probably more) I can think of right of the bat.

Going Postal, WWW/LX, LXTCP, and palmtop.com

I don't know anything about Going Postal. But from what
I've read its a very good program.

WWW/LX is the most expensive but it does everything and its
well worth the money. You get email, news, ftp, telnet, and
a browser. It handles attachments like Eudora

LXTCP is freeware so you can just download and use it. It
is very nice and runs very nicely under system manager. You
can send attachments with it but on incoming messages
attachments are imbedded in the body of the message.
However since its system manager complient you can cut and
paste with all the built-in apps with no problems.

Palmtop.com is a free email service that uses the built-in
Ccmail program. You can't do news or browsing with it but
if you are looking for an inexpensive way to get email
palmtop.com is it. You do have to pay for the phone calls I
pay about 11 cents a minute and it usually costs anywhere
from 2 to 5 dollars a month for me. Check it out at
http://espmail.com/palmtop.htm

>       -I'd like to be able to download my email to my 200LX,
>read and respond
>to it off line, and then log back on and send it.  Which of
>the
>available programs can do this?

All of them are offline.

<snip>
>PC that runs Netscape.  But is it possible?  And does it
>require endless
>hours of setting up, configuring and troubleshooting the 200LX,
>modem

I don't know about Goin Postal but WWW/LX was very easy to
setup. About the toughest thing in WWW/LX is making sure
your script works.  LXTCP is a little tougher in that you
 need to setup CFG and BAT files- but it is freeware.

>and software.  Can they actually display full HTML, frames,
>etc. albeit
>in CGA mode?

HV (browser for WWW/LX) displays frames and GIFs. If you
use LXPIC along with it it will display JPGs and others


Good luck

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:35:31 -0700
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Steven Lawson wrote:
>
> I just have to tell you what I just did, it's so cool and reeks
> of pure geek. :-)
> As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
> It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird
> velcro-wrapped 'thing' about twice the size - but it was wireless!

Hmm... you know, a while back they had some commercials on for a new
cordless phone.  The guy in the commercial took his cordless phone and went
down the the grocery store but forgot his list... so he took out his
cordless phone and turned it on and called his wife so she could tell him
what he needed to get.  The basic premise was, I believe, that this
cordless phone has a very long range.

Anybody know how these worked?  I'm assuming that once you got out of your
real range it switched over to some kind of cellular phone mode... then
back once you were back in range.

In any case, those might be interesting for just this sort of wireless data
transfer.  So how fast was the connection?

> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

I sure hope you paid for that registration, mister, and didn't just
"borrow" a copy from a friend, or the Goin' Postal author is going to be
mighty ticked.

<g>

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Thaddeus (palmtop paper) Last time I was on their site they
were selling them.




     For an HP 95 LX I am looking for a connectivity kit (new
or used)
     HP part # F1001A with serial cable, 9 to 25 pin adapter
3.5" disk with
     software

     Would somebody know where this is available??
     Thanks  Kurt

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:43:15 -0600
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I can't remember where I got this file, but it might be helpful. -
Richard Smith
======================
Shhh! The Undocumented DOS Commands (Updated 12/14/95)
These commands may or may not work with your version or brand of DOS.
Most of them require DOS 4.0 or higher but some may work with earlier
versions.

; (CONFIG.SYS only) A short-cut for the REM command.
:: (Batch files only) Another short-cut for the REM command, but faster
(DOS just skips over any :: lines rather than processing them).

ANSI.SYS /L /S /SCREENSIZE
(CONFIG.SYS only) Some undocumented switches for the ANSI.SYS device
driver. Anybody know what they do?

ATTRIB, (ATTRIB followed by a comma) Same effect as ATTRIB -A -H -R -S
*.* (removes attributes of all files in the current directory).

AVAILDEV (CONFIG.SYS only) Only in DOS 1.0 through 2.x; see end of file
for detailed information.

COMMAND /F Automatically (F)ails floppy disk drive errors. Works either
at the DOS prompt or in your SHELL=COMMAND.COM... line in CONFIG.SYS.

COMMAND /D Undoes the /F switch temporarily. Type EXIT to return to the
auto-fail version of DOS. Use at the DOS prompt or in batch files only.

COMMAND /T /Z (Only in "MS-DOS 7.0", the DOS that comes with Windows
95.) Undocumented switches for COMMAND. Perhaps one of them enables long
file names in stand-alone DOS mode -- who knows?

COMMENT comment_ID (CONFIG.SYS only) Allows you to put comments onto the
end of CONFIG.SYS commands. For example, COMMENT ?? lets you use:
"DOS=HIGH  ?? Loads DOS into high memory"  Requires DOS 4.0 or higher.

CPSW (CONFIG.SYS only) Only in DOS 4.x; turns on (CPSW=ON) or off
(CPSW=OFF) code page switching.

DIR, (DIR followed by a comma) Displays ALL files in the current
directory, including hidden and system files.

DOSKEY /APPEDIT /COMMAND /PERMANENT /SCRSIZE /XHISTORY
(As far as I can tell, only in "MS-DOS 7.0", the DOS that comes with
Windows 95.) Some undocumented switches for DOSKEY. Anybody know what
they do?

DRIVPARM (CONFIG.SYS only) Documented in DOS 3.3 through 6.x;
undocumented in DOS 3.2, 3.3 and PC DOS 7.0. Works fine in MS-DOS
3.2/3.3 and PC DOS 7, but requires special handling in PC DOS 3.2 or
3.3; see end of file.

FDISK /MBR Re-writes the hard disk drive's Master Boot Record. Useful if
you hard disk drive just won't boot up properly after you format it or
after you suffered from a MBR-corrupting virus. Requires DOS 5.0 or
higher.

Other undocumented FDISK switches:   FDISK /PRI /Q /EXT /LOG /STATUS
  /STATUS is documented in DOS 6.0 and higher.
  /Q and /STATUS require DOS 5.0 or higher.
  /STATUS shows the current status of your disk drive partitions.

FORMAT /AUTOTEST No-questions-asked format; just formats then exits. No
prompt for volume label and no disk  information is displayed. Requires
DOS 4.0 or higher.

FORMAT /BACKUP Like /AUTOTEST except asks for volume label and displays
disk information (free space, etc.). Requires DOS 4.0 or higher.

FORMAT /SELECT Removes the format from a formatted disk; press Y then
Enter at the pause. No messages displayed. Requires DOS 4.0 or higher.

IFS (CONFIG.SYS only) Only in DOS 4.x. Maybe it has something to do with
CD-ROM drives, which are Installable File Systems. Uses the same format
as DEVICE (IFS=C:\DOS\IFSDRVR.SYS etc.).

INSTALLHIGH (CONFIG.SYS only) Works the same as INSTALL except loads the
program into upper memory. Requires DOS 6.0 or higher.

LH In DOS 5.0 or higher, LH is not documented in the /? help as an
abbreviation for LOADHIGH but it works fine.

MULTITRACK (CONFIG.SYS only) The default is MULTITRACK=ON, and
MULTITRACK=OFF solves compatibility problems with antique hard disk
drives. Requires DOS 4.0 or higher. See end of file for more
information.

SET DIRCMD=dirswitches  Works fine in DOS 5.x as well as in DOS 6.0 and
higher. It actually is documented in DOS 5.x but many people think it
only works in DOS 6.0 and higher.

SET NO_SEP=ON Removes the commas from numbers in DOS 6.2 and higher.
Type SET NO_SEP= (nothing after the =) to turn commas back on.
Documented in PC DOS 6.3 and higher but undocumented in MS-DOS 6.2 and
higher.

SHARE /NC No effect upon the performance of SHARE is noticeable when
using the /NC switch but the "Invalid Switch" error message is not
displayed.

SWITCHAR (CONFIG.SYS only) Only in DOS 1.0 through 2.x. Lets you change
the switch character (usually "/") to some other character using
SWITCHAR=x. See end of file for more information.

SWITCHES /K Undocumented in DOS 4.x; documented in DOS 5.0 and higher.
Turns off support for 101-key "enhanced" keyboards to make ancient
programs happy.

TRUENAME filename.ext Displays the true, complete path of the file name
specified. Ignores ASSIGN, SUBST or JOIN reassignments. If no file name
is specified, displays the current complete path. Interestingly, the /?
switch works with TRUENAME in PC DOS 7.0 (only), but it's not listed in
the on-line help system. Requires DOS 4.0 or higher.

VER /R In MS-DOS 5.0 or higher, displays the DOS revision number and
where DOS is loaded (low memory, HMA, or ROM). In PC DOS 5.0 or higher,
displays where DOS is loaded (the DOS revision  number is always
displayed in PC DOS).

XCOPY /Y /-Y Not documented in MS-DOS, but is fully in PC DOS. /Y gets
rid of overwrite prompts, and/-Y causes them if COPYCMD=/Y.

Additional information about AVAILDEV, DRIVPARM, MULTITRACK, and
SWITCHAR:

AVAILDEV
Syntax: AVAILDEV=TRUE  or  AVAILDEV=FALSE  Default: AVAILDEV=TRUE
This commmand controls the access to devices. Usually devices are
accessed by name (e.g. CON). This behavior might be undesirable however
if the user decides to use a device name as file name. AVAILDEV has been
removed from DOS version 3.0 and higher so that there is no ambiguity
when accessing a network. If CONFIG.SYS contains the command
AVAILDEV=FALSE, the access to devices is only available using a
non-existent file in the non-existent directory \DEV. For example, the
device COM1 could be accessed as \DEV\COM1.

DRIVPARM
In DOS 3.2 and 3.3: When using DOS 3.2 or 3.3, DRIVPARM is undocumented
but it can be made to work using this trick. In CONFIG.SYS, type:

        Normal DOS 4.0+ DRIVPARM set-up switches.
     \/
DRIVPARM ¬A¬A¬A {switches}
    /\
       Type Ctrl-A, not Shift-6 A. In MS-DOS's EDIT, type Ctrl-P
       then Ctrl-A (you will see a smiley face on the screen).

MULTITRACK
Syntax: MULTITRACK=ON  or  MULTITRACK=OFF  Default: MULTITRACK=ON
Starting with DOS 3.3, disk accesses have been optimized to get better
performance when working with "newer" hard disk drives. Among other
things, reading and writing of more than one track with a single BIOS
call has been implemented. But some problems have been obeserved with
hard disk drives of some manufacturers. So the MULTITRACK=OFF option
limits disk access to a single track.

SWITCHAR
Syntax: SWITCHAR=char  Default: SWITCHAR=/
Until DOS 3.0 you could select the character that has to precede each
switch. You could use the UNIX-style command syntax when using "-" as
the switch character instead of "/". There is a DOS system function (Int
21h, function 37h, subfunctions 0 and 1), undocumeted until DOS 3.0, to
get or set this switch character. Not all commands in all DOS versions
did actually support this feature. That the reason for the removal of
this option is the growing use of network software, where a selectable
switch character would cause problems.
---
If you find any other undocumented commands, or if you have any
additional information on the commands listed above (or any "MS-DOS 7.0"
secrets!), please tell me! Send e-mail to Kevin Tekel N2WTO, 76362,2023
or leave me a message on the PCDOS or MSDOS forum.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:43:18 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: geek wireless
Comments: To: stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM

On 06-24 10:03pm, the following was written:

> As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
>
> It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird
> velcro-wrapped 'thing' about twice the size - but it was wireless!

Hmmm..... maybe the devloping and testing of Goin' Postal has driven you
insane <grin>.

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:07:56 -0700
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              Gene Johnson <krcaddis@THEGRID.NET>
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At 09:27 AM 6/24/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>     For an HP 95 LX I am looking for a connectivity kit (new or used)
>     HP part # F1001A with serial cable, 9 to 25 pin adapter 3.5" disk with
>     software
>_______________________________________

I just buried my 95 lx, will sell cheaply the connectivity kit (or will buy
your 95lx...)  please contact me at KRCADDIS@thegrid.net   I JUST
unsubscribed & am cleaning out my email from this list...
>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:13:47 -0700
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> > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
>
> I sure hope you paid for that registration, mister, and didn't just
> "borrow" a copy from a friend, or the Goin' Postal author is going to be
> mighty ticked.
>
> <g>

In case anyone takes it wrong, I *am* the Goin' Postal author.  David
is just yanking my chain... <g>

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:27:53 +0800
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>In that case, setting the ÝAlt¨ key to work as
>menu-key is the best choice (or just learn the shortcuts instead of using
>the menu :-)

I find that using the Alt key as menu key requires you to press Alt, release
Alt and then press the letter for the submenus. The having to release the Alt
key before pressing the submenu letter was a trifling irritating. If you don't
release the Alt key, WP51 calls the appropriate alt macro. So I defined the
Alt-F, Alt-O ... macros to call the separate submenus directly. So I don't
really use a menu key anymore, just Alt-F directly to the menu. You get the
submenus without having to learn all the shortcuts. Might work for you as well
.... 8-D

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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:55:22 -0700
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Steven Lawson wrote:
>
> In case anyone takes it wrong, I *am* the Goin' Postal author.  David
> is just yanking my chain... <g>

Oh, uh, whoops.  Ha ha... sorry, folks, my mistake.  Boy, is my face red.

(Okay, okay, I should just resist temptations like this when they come
along.  But it was a slow night-- I was bored!)
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:16:19 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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hi  Chris,
thanx for your (cool) web site,
did you realy try a click?
this the first time I can see a picture of it.
Is it realy working with a CE machine?
Did you need a driver or is the interface can see it as a flash mem?

And because I own a HP200LX, do you think it will be compatible.
Thanx to reply about this fantastic(I hope) product
regards
Alain

IOMEGA CLICK there: http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/pccard.htm
Al
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:17:29 +0300
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              Ari Kosonen <ak61563@UTA.FI>
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Tony, KO6DR said:

> I've been a Pocket packeteer since I bought my HP-95LX the first week
> they were available. The current system sues a 200LX, a Pico Packet
> TNC (Paccom) and an old FT-411.

As other lurking pocket packeteers seem to come out, I have to confess
the main reason I ever purchased my HP-95lx, was portable packet radio.
I still use it with my KPC-3 TNC and Yaesu FT23r as my light weight
packet station, because each unit is self powered with its own
battery. Oh well, the operating time running KPC-3 with 9V battery
inside is quite limited, but still.. Before entering the HPLX-era,
I used my HP-48s calculator as terminal, but that was a bit too
slow and painful.

> If someone decides to get a Packet-LX discussion group going - sign
> me up.

Me too!

73 de Ari OH7KA

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:50:01 EDT
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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> Has anyone considered putting this group on a forum or message board?
>
> The only disadvantage I can see is that it would be harder to download

The real disadvantage, escpecially with the space limitations of palmtops,
is SPAM.

Darren.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:53:49 +0200
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> I am curious to how you use GET to retrieve the TV-Guide.
>
download the GET program from www.dasoft.com
then
goto setup.
goto externals
add externals
type something like:
tvguide
<enter>
get c:\www\get\tvguide.dat
<enter>

in c:\www\get\ create a file called tvguide.dat
It contains:
http:\\<web page that holds the page You whant to download.in this case
a tvguide. You have to look for one> c:\www\hv\tvguide.htm

when You run the external tvguide it downloads the web page to the htm
file tvguide.htm that you can view with hv.

Maybe i am not that good at explaning, but its not very hard to do.
 hope this helps.
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                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:32:53 +1000
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After reading this, I decided to try the negative timing, instead of the
repeat setting.

It seems less stressful than having the blasted thing go off every 5
minutes ad infinitum.

This is my little motivational technique for writing:
I can *make* myself do 5 minutes, and then I don't want to stop.
When I finish a section, I take a rest (stop the timer), before starting
the next bit.

> The negative reading is Wonderfull
>
> > > Under the Timer menu, there is an option to stop the timer at zero or
> > > not. If you uncheck it (and the repeat (F8) is unchecked) the timer
> > > goes negative after it reaches zero.
> >
> > Hmmm.... So it does. Interessting, what could they have had in
> > mind?


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Subject:      FS: 2MB chip to upgrade 4MB machines to 6MB
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Hi,

I still have two of those chips for sale, $20+shipping each. I'll include
the two SMD decoupling capacitors also required.

Those are the 1Mx16 (2Mbyte) low power self-refresh DRAM chips used in the
HP200LX upgrades. The 4MB model has 2MB in the mainboard and 2MB in a
daughterboard. This daughterboard is designed and has room for two 2MB
chips, but only one is soldered. All you have to upgrade your 4MB machine
to 6MB is the following:

1- Open your HP200LX.
2- Remove the daughterboard.
3- Remove the green protection layer from the pads where the missing chip
should be. Softly scratching with a cutter will have it done in two minutes.
4- Solder the chip there, in the same position than the one already soldered.
5- Solder two SMD decoupling capacitors. I will provide them with the chip.
6- Plug the daughterboard in.
7- Close your HP200LX.

And that's all. I've successfully done it and works fine. Also sold one of
the chips and the buyer reported complete success too.

Thanks. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:43:12 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> If you're timing a presentation designed to fit into a fixed time and you
> run into negative time when using the timer you know how much to cut out.

I think a "structured" timer would be really nice - like 5 minutes for this,
2 minutes for that 10 minutes for the other, like the Theocratic example.

I guess presentations often fall into sections, as do examination questions!

This "structured" timer would be along the continuum between the Timer and
Appointment Applications - but much closer to Timer!!


> > Under the Timer menu, there is an option to stop the timer at zero or
> > not. If you uncheck it (and the repeat (F8) is unchecked) the timer
> > goes negative after it reaches zero.


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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:42:52 +1000
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Subject:      Date weirdness
In-Reply-To:  <199806251043.UAA19715@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> from "Brendan
              Macmillan" at Jun 25, 98 08:43:12 pm
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I pride my hp200lx on not crashing. But...today I typed at the DOS prompt -
        >DATE
But when it queried -
        Enter new date (mm-dd-yy):
I didn't type anything, I just left it for hours (I wouldn't normally
do this, as it just seems so wrong to leave the poor thing hangin' there.
Normally I'd just hit return Ýread: ENTER¨).

When I reopened it, it had crashed. The three fingered salute did
nothing; I had to hard reset (shift-crtl-ON).  No damage; but
it sure is disconcerting!

This ever happen to anyone else? Anyone game to give it a try? <g> (not I!)

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:50:17 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hey Steve:

09h42m28s ago ...
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> ...
> As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
> ...

How fast could you connect? 2400-9600?

I thought about doing this a while back, but wasn't sure it was worth
springing $100 for an acoustic coupler, then again it beats $200 for
the Panasonic 900mz cordless modem.

Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:57:22 -0400
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As a seasoned geek, I salute your accomplishment and bow to your
eminence with the lx and wireless.

Only one thing.  A *real* geek would have used duct tape to hold the two
units together.  If you used velcro, that smacks of marketing influence
for clean design and user-friendlyness.
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Do it possible to upgrade 2MB or 1MB 200LX using Your chips and is it same
as 4MB model upgrade?
Thank You.

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Ignacio Ýiso-8859-1¨ GarcmaÝiso-8859-1¨  Pirez wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I still have two of those chips for sale, $20+shipping each. I'll include
> the two SMD decoupling capacitors also required.
>
> Those are the 1Mx16 (2Mbyte) low power self-refresh DRAM chips used in the
> HP200LX upgrades. The 4MB model has 2MB in the mainboard and 2MB in a
> daughterboard. This daughterboard is designed and has room for two 2MB
> chips, but only one is soldered. All you have to upgrade your 4MB machine
> to 6MB is the following:
>
> 1- Open your HP200LX.
> 2- Remove the daughterboard.
> 3- Remove the green protection layer from the pads where the missing chip
> should be. Softly scratching with a cutter will have it done in two minutes.
> 4- Solder the chip there, in the same position than the one already soldered.
> 5- Solder two SMD decoupling capacitors. I will provide them with the chip.
> 6- Plug the daughterboard in.
> 7- Close your HP200LX.
>
> And that's all. I've successfully done it and works fine. Also sold one of
> the chips and the buyer reported complete success too.
>
> Thanks. Nacho.
>
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:10:03 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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I own both a 360, a 100lx and a 200lx. As list readers will appreciate, I
use the 200, the others being held in store for the future and rainy days,
respectively.
The one positive feature the 360lx has is its ability to run PC-Anywhere
CE. This lets me connect to networks, exchange info and run whatever
user-friendly s/w I need.
* How can I achieve a similar functionality on my 200lx???? *
Pc-anywhere v. 8 comes with a DOS client, but this only allows character
based connectivity, and also I am not shure it will run on the LX.


PS: When will I switch to the CE?
1) When they bring out a decent graphics calculator
2) Incorporate a numeric keypad
3) Allow me to run of-the-shelf s/w like Mathcad, Derive and GPS map s/w
4) Reduce the size, weight and power consumption to LX like proportions

Regards,
Paul Rasmussen
paal@ah.telia.no

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Subject:      GPS Ýfunny FLUFF¨
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This is from comp.risks (I don't know if they talk about driving risks <g>)
-----------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:48:50 +0100
From: Ian Cargill <ian@soliton.demon.co.uk>
Subject: GPS - one they didn't think of

There has been quite a bit of discussion on comp.risks lately about the
various risks associated with relying on GPS systems.  I read about another
one today that not many people will have thought of.  (Daily Telegraph, June
23, 1998)

When a body weighed with an anchor was caught in a fishing boat's nets,
police launched a murder investigation.  After identifying the body (by the
maintenance records for the Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date Chronometer it was
wearing!), their invesigations uncovered a man who had stolen the victims
identity and allegedly murdered him to prevent it being discovered.

The nice bit is that they found the GPS navigation unit for his yacht in his
garage.  The GPS route history showed that he had been close to the area
where the body was found just about the time that it was believed to have
been dumped!  After that, it was all downhill...

He should have dumped the GPS, too.

Ian Cargill  CEng MIEE  Soliton Software Ltd.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:32:29 EDT
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Could the chip be used on a one meg 200lx?
Thanks,
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jason C H Yap wrote:

> >In that case, setting the ÝAlt¨ key to work as
> >menu-key is the best choice (or just learn the shortcuts instead of using
> >the menu :-)
>
> I find that using the Alt key as menu key requires you to press Alt, release
> Alt and then press the letter for the submenus.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but is everyone aware that the
Alt-= key combination brings up the menu directly?

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> After reading this, I decided to try the negative timing, instead of the
> repeat setting.
>
> It seems less stressful than having the blasted thing go off every 5
> minutes ad infinitum.

On a related note, the Visible Clock program by Gene Dorr (on the SUPER
site) has a similar option. The freeware version 2 at the site adds a timer
and stopwatch to the normal wallclock (all with big digits), and the timer
can be configured such that when zero is reached, it switches to stopwatch
mode and begins marking time. Same concept as negative time, but the big
digits may be a help for some.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:45:09 -0500
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Since I didn't see *any* responses, I'm assuming this message
didn't make it to the list and am resending it.  If it did
come through before, please excuse my gaffe.

Ted


On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 theise@netins.net wrote:

> Okay, I've tried Goin' Postal and here is my experience so far.
> It works very well.  It was easy to set up.  I have spent several
> hours trying to get LXTCP/PNR running without success--GP took
> me perhaps an hour to set up.  It would have been faster if I
> had gathered all the necessary information ahead of time.  For
> example, the numbers I needed for setting up my hosts are stored
> in a file on my 200LX so I had to exit GP to get to them and then
> restart.
>
> I like the short amount of time GP spends online.  The ability
> to choose between dialing locations and amongst hosts seems
> really well thought out.  I also like the option to leave mail
> on the server.  I like the interface very well.
>
> I also have a few questions and/or comments.  I have been unable
> to get Mini-Telnet to work.  After shelling out of GP I type
> "mt myhost.net" and it tries and times out.  Is there some config
> file I need to set up?  Is there any way to expand the addressbook
> beyond the 18 it seems to be limiyed to?  Can one shell out when
> offline?  I couldn't find a way to view files on my LX from within
> GP.  Is there any way to task switch back to native LX apps from
> GP?  I set it to run within the app manager, but seemed locked
> into it once it started.  The shell command ÝAlt-S¨ isn't
> documented anywhere that I could find.
>
> Well, that's it.  Hope this comes out formatted okay--it's my
> first public attempt with GP.
>
> Ted
>
>
> --
>
> Theodore Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
>
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) EVALUATION
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:07:19 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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 > Is there any way to task switch back to native LX apps from
 > GP?  I set it to run within the app manager, but seemed locked
 > into it once it started.

I don't use GP, but most comm packages running PPP usually advise you to add
the inverted ! in the Comments box for the icon in AppMgr. This effectively
locks out AppMgr/SysMgr to prevent swapping (although the intention is to
prevent SysMgr from polling and hence interrupting the app during critical
comm work).

So if you have the inverted ! (Fn-!) in the Comments box, that's the reason
you can't task switch without ending the app. If that's the case, maybe you
can make 2 icons, one for on-line and the other for off-line sessions.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:44:04 GMT
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Forum?
Comments: To: "RichardA.Smith/PattiSmith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>

In message <3591B0F7.BBEF0CE8@enol.com>, rsmith@ENOL.COM said:
> Has anyone considered putting this group on a forum or message board?
> The threads would be easier to see and there might be fewer repeated
> answers, and therefore less wasted bandwidth.
>
> The only disadvantage I can see is that it would be harder to download
> the messages to the palmtop and read them on the go.  (I was thinking of
> using palmtop.com for that)

Not true - you can use LXNNTP with either LXTCP or GP to download news
articles and read them.  I'm sure that POST/LX also has a news download
facility.  Of course all of this depends on you having access to a NNTP
server.

In fact, I read HPLX off a private news server every day (I gateway the
mailing list to a local newsgroup at work and then read the messages as
news - this really helps reduce the interruption of mail.  I do this
for all the mailing lists I am on.

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Subject:      Re: CCMail formats (Was: New service available)
Comments: To: "R.ChristopherLott" <rclott@RO.COM>

In message <199806231830.NAA08604@sh1.ro.com>, rclott@RO.COM said:
> I wasn't aware that there even *was* a standard for *storage* of
> internet e-mail messages.  If so, I'd very much like to learn of it.

The MMDF format that LXPOP and LXNNTP uses is a de-facto standard used
by the Unix MH mail handling tool (and also supported by VM under
Emacs, and exmh under raw X Windows, and a number of other Unix mail
tools).  It's an improvement over the other Unix folder format cause
it doesn't suffer from the 'embedded From' problem.  I think it might
even be an RFC in itself, but I don't have the details handy.

So if you have a set of messages stored in MMDF format, then you can
just tranfer the complete folder between the palmtop and the desktop
and read the messages with different tools on each platform.  This is
the key to easy Unix-palmtop interoperability.

MMDF is simply RFC822 with four C-A (ascii 01) characters and a CRLF
pair delimiting each message.

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I have and use a KPC-3 and Baycom TNC, with an Alinco 580, a Quantum
battery pak and HP200LX. This configuration has lasted a week in FLA.
with no problem or recharging.

The software I use is a Kantronics program that came with the assembler
code on the disk. I modified it for the default values and recompiled it
then ran PKLite so the program is less the 4k in size. It is not very
fancy but it does a split screen for use with the KPC3. For the
Tigertronics Baycom I use the SoftTnc program that I got from some where
(legal just do not remember who I bought it from).  I have not used the
Baycom much but it does seem to work reliably. Has anyone tried to use
the new Alinco miniatures with packet? I know that the Standard dual
band (508/510)  units do not work on packet due to receiver circuit
design

If someone decides to get a Packet-LX discussion group going - sign me
up.

Stephen Souza
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COMNAVSURFLANT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ari Kosonen ÝSMTP:ak61563@UTA.FI¨
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 3:17 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Another Pocket Packet Ham
>
> Tony, KO6DR said:
>
> > I've been a Pocket packeteer since I bought my HP-95LX the first
> week
> > they were available. The current system sues a 200LX, a Pico Packet
> > TNC (Paccom) and an old FT-411.
>
> As other lurking pocket packeteers seem to come out, I have to confess
> the main reason I ever purchased my HP-95lx, was portable packet
> radio.
> I still use it with my KPC-3 TNC and Yaesu FT23r as my light weight
> packet station, because each unit is self powered with its own
> battery. Oh well, the operating time running KPC-3 with 9V battery
> inside is quite limited, but still.. Before entering the HPLX-era,
> I used my HP-48s calculator as terminal, but that was a bit too
> slow and painful.
>
> > If someone decides to get a Packet-LX discussion group going - sign
> > me up.
>
> Me too!
>
> 73 de Ari OH7KA
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> Ari Kosonen OH7KA/OH3KAV
> email: ak61563@uta.fi                ><   ari.kosonen@ntc.nokia.com
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

>  > Is there any way to task switch back to native LX apps from
>  > GP?  I set it to run within the app manager, but seemed locked
>  > into it once it started.
>
> So if you have the inverted ! (Fn-!) in the Comments box, that's the reason
> you can't task switch without ending the app.


DOH!  <smacks forehead>  That's it!  Thanks Longden, I should
have known that.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:32:58 +1000
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Subject:      > 1 DOS session....
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Hi, I know this is discussed on and off, but I've been clear on
what program works best on the hplx, and whether it can do the job:


(1)     A way to have more than one DOS session at a time - eg
under the system manager, you can have the Appointment App, the
Calc App and a DOS shell at the same time; BUT you can't have
Lair of Squid and a DOS session (because Lair of Squid itself takes
up the one DOS session that is available.

(2)     And a way to switch between them, just like under the System Manager.
Thus, shelling out from one program (as you can do in Html Viewer, Calvin
and many others) won't do, because it works like a stack.

(3)     Of course, I'd *really* like multi-tasking, but let's forget
this pipe dream (at least until the first two are satisfied)!


SPECIFICALLY
------------
on the SUPER site,
        MaxDOS and SWAP ... seem to shell out - see (2) above
        TASKLIST ... seems to be a short-cut to switch between
                System Manager Applications.
On SimTel,
        DOSamatic ... may be the ticket - but it seems big...
        (all the multi-taskers I've heard of crash, and DV is huge,
        so let's forget it <g>)

Thanks, I really would like to know about this...

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:17:00 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:35:10 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

Well - it's been a while since anybody mentioned this, so here goes.

<Flame shields at max...>

Is it REALLY necessary to include the COMPLETE text of EVERY preceding
message in a thread?? - including multiple copies of the "Do not post
binaries..." listserver tag??

C'mon folks - a little judicious editing only takes a few seconds, and
saves a lot of bandwidth.

Just my $.02 worth.

<Flame shields maintained at max...>

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:49:13 -0500
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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A real geek would have discovered EZ-Start clear packaging
tape available at WalMart. Like magictape on steroids.
Strong with a strong adhesive and comes off without leaving
a mark (so far).

Jim Krist wrote:

> Only one thing.  A *real* geek would have used duct tape to hold the two
> units together.  If you used velcro, that smacks of marketing influence
> for clean design and user-friendlyness.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:48:19 +1000
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er, that should have been:

Hi, I know this is discussed on and off, but I've been clear on
                                                 ¬
                                               never

what program works best on the hplx, and whether it can do the job:

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:48:43 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Speaking of Jorj....
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>
> >I'd probably much prefer one of the commercial dictionaries
> >recommended before (ie, American Heritage Words Plus),
> >but I can't find a copy anywhere ...  so please don't
> >recommend one unless you can point me to a source.
>
> Collins is still available, although references are deeply buried in web
> site. See the Collins English faq document and the printable order form
> at:
> http://www.rhcc.co.uk
> You can reach the order form directly at:
> http://www.rhcc.co.uk/orderfrm.htm

Yes, thank-you. I had forgotten about Collins.

At the cost of about US$48, I think I'll wait for others to comment first on
the size and usefulness. Jorj is half the price, and I have no idea how
extensive (number of words or definitions) either is capable of.

Trouble is, the more extensive the word list, the bigger the application
(duh!), and I'd like to find something that's a working compromise
personally speaking, of cost, size and feature. I have the disk space (a
40mb card), but feel silly carrying around an expensive electronic
dictionary for occasional use that occupies a good portion of my even more
expensive storage, when a $2 paper copy usually does as well (for the few
times I need it). I know, there's just no pleasing some people!

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:49:14 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Date weirdness

YES!
This weekend.
Not with date, but just at the command prompt.

I just went on with life and in the midst of reloading.

Do you know what the problem might have been?

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:33:39 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Advice and Recommendations Wanted

Don't worry about battery power so much.
Anyplace you can plug in a jack, you can
plug in the power adapter, its pretty compact.

If you're on the road, you don't want to spend
a hell of a lot of time on line anyway. You
really don't want to be doing this behind the wheel
going down the I way. It will waste a lot of power,
but then you probably won't need much more.

People who call you to chat and say they're at a
pay phone or can't talk should not have called.
They're not the kind of people I don't care to hear from.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:41:32 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Good morning world

> I just have to tell you what I just did, it's so cool and reeks
> of pure geek. :-)
> As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
> It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird
> velcro-wrapped 'thing' about twice the size - but it was wireless!

Did anyone else stay up last nigh to get a copy of Windows 98
last night?  ....and a free 266 MHz Celetron/Intel PC?  All for $98 :)
It was a nine hour wait but a lot of fun trading lore with some power
users, amazing not one knew what hte LX is.  Hmmmmmm.

Enjoy a hot muggy day.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:05:06 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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In-Reply-To:  <19980626.085014.9158.3.hobchi@juno.com> from "al chin" at Jun
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> Did anyone else stay up last nigh to get a copy of Windows 98
> last night?
So how is it? (at the risk of offtopicalness)

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:06:18 -0700
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> (1)     A way to have more than one DOS session at a time - eg

> (2)     And a way to switch between them, just like under the System Manager.

Your personal Holy Grail <g>.

> on the SUPER site,
>         MaxDOS and SWAP ... seem to shell out - see (2) above
>         TASKLIST ... seems to be a short-cut to switch between
>                 System Manager Applications.
> On SimTel,
>         DOSamatic ... may be the ticket - but it seems big...

You forgot Software Carousel. Commercial software and a bit pricey
(depending on your means), and not to be used on 6/13/98. Takes a fair
amount of disk/ram resources, depending on how many sessions you want to
prepare for.

Shareware sources also listed several swapper, none of which I've been able
to make work on the LX (Multiple Choice, Fast Flip, etc), although I'll
admit I didn't spend a lot of time on them. They kept locking up the system.

Another old commercial software that may hold promise (if I ever find it),
is DoubleDos. I believe it was a simple 2 DOS session swapper .. may have
been the precursor to SC.

Seems there was also a shareware item some time back that just split the
available ram (ie 640k) into 2 partitions, thus minimizing any swap space
needed. Can't recall specifics tho... the hunt goes on.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:21:19 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> So how is it? (at the risk of offtopicalness)
                                   ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

Off-topical?  This would mean not on the surface of the skin, no?  8-)

-Chris

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Information on the ELKS project to port Linux to older machines is at:

http://linuxorg.bridgend.cymru.net/ELKS-Home/

They said that they can use help!

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:30:39 -0500
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              "Jens Siffring (Frankendata)" <jsiffrin@SIEMENS-PSC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FS: 2MB chip to upgrade 4MB machines to 6MB
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.3.32.19980625121614.006e4a28@crispin> from "Ignacio
              =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=" at Jun 25,
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Hi,

I got one of the chips Nacho is selling.

Four weeks ago they arrived by mail including both of the decoupling
capacitors. I bought a soldering iron at Radio Sharks, got an extremly
thin tip to it and started the upgrade.

The description how to open my hp I found at a web page. With this
side it was pretty easy to open the case.

The daughterboard could be removed without problems to do the
soldering on a plane surface.

I used a tweezers to remove the protection layer and soldered the
coper pads immeadetly.

After resoldering all pads, I put the SMD-chip on the pads and
reheated allt pads. Same for the capacitors.

Placed the daughterboard back on the mainboard,
assembled the case, did a Ram-check with the build in self test
and found 6MB. => DONE!

All togeher I took me 90min to do the upgrade.

Having no ESD workplace , I connected we with a blank wire to
the metal sink to avoid electrical static damage to my LX.

And not familar with SMD soldering before, I also did some
soldering prtice with the new iron I got. I did this with a plain
circuit board.


After the upgrade I notice NO difference in battery consumption,
I still get 14h out of my 1300mAh NiMe ones.


I can recommend this chip to everybody having the upgradeable hp.
It is a very inexpensive way to get 50% more memory.

Thanks again Nacho for this chips!


Jens



>
> Hi,
>
> I still have two of those chips for sale, $20+shipping each. I'll include
> the two SMD decoupling capacitors also required.
>
> Those are the 1Mx16 (2Mbyte) low power self-refresh DRAM chips used in the
> HP200LX upgrades. The 4MB model has 2MB in the mainboard and 2MB in a
> daughterboard. This daughterboard is designed and has room for two 2MB
> chips, but only one is soldered. All you have to upgrade your 4MB machine
> to 6MB is the following:
>
> 1- Open your HP200LX.
> 2- Remove the daughterboard.
> 3- Remove the green protection layer from the pads where the missing chip
> should be. Softly scratching with a cutter will have it done in two minutes.
> 4- Solder the chip there, in the same position than the one already soldered.
> 5- Solder two SMD decoupling capacitors. I will provide them with the chip.
> 6- Plug the daughterboard in.
> 7- Close your HP200LX.
>
> And that's all. I've successfully done it and works fine. Also sold one of
> the chips and the buyer reported complete success too.
>
> Thanks. Nacho.
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:56:33 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something here, but is everyone aware that the
> Alt-= key combination brings up the menu directly?

Actually, that was what I was trying to say with the ÝAlt Gr¨+Ý"Key next
to backspace"¨ thing except I didn't have all the facts (I thought it
_had_ to be ÝAlt Gr¨, which the LX doesn't have (just has plain old
ÝAlt¨). Also, the keyboard definition is somewhat dependant on what
nationality your keyboard is set up for (or what version of WP you have -
English or Danish or so on), but WP's built-in help should be able to say
for sure.

Does the ÝAlt¨+Ý=¨ combination work on the LX too? (I don't run WP on the
LX - yet)


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:08:51 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%98062507501734@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> from Al Kind at "Jun
              25, 98 07:50:17 am"
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> How fast could you connect? 2400-9600?

It was 9600, with several pauses.  However, it's a cheap cordless and
shaped a little odd so the cups didn't seal perfectly.

> I thought about doing this a while back, but wasn't sure it was worth
> springing $100 for an acoustic coupler, then again it beats $200 for
> the Panasonic 900mz cordless modem.

Well, the coupler was $120, sounds like the modem would be a better
option (but what is its current draw?)

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:32:54 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Is it REALLY necessary to include the COMPLETE text of EVERY preceding
> message in a thread?? - including multiple copies of the "Do not post
> binaries..." listserver tag??

What annoys me even more is when people quote a message without indicating
what is quoted text and what is not. It makes it impossible to see the
difference and you have to refer to the original message again all the
time.

I mean how hard can it be to place a '>' (or something similar) in front
of each quoted line?


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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:31:56 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Comments: To: theise@NETINS.NET
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> Since I didn't see *any* responses, I'm assuming this message
> didn't make it to the list and am resending it.  If it did
> come through before, please excuse my gaffe.

Oops, sorry about that.  I *thought* I answered it but obviously not!

> > I like the short amount of time GP spends online.  The ability
> > to choose between dialing locations and amongst hosts seems
> > really well thought out.  I also like the option to leave mail
> > on the server.  I like the interface very well.

Thanks!

> > I also have a few questions and/or comments.  I have been unable
> > to get Mini-Telnet to work.  After shelling out of GP I type
> > "mt myhost.net" and it tries and times out.  Is there some config
> > file I need to set up?

No config file, but make sure you don't have a WATTCP.CFG file hanging
around.  This would interfere with MT's decision to try BOOTP (which
EPPPD emulates).  GP no longer looks for a WATTCP.CFG and wouldn't be
affected by one as MT would.  You might try the IP address instead,
just to see if the link is functioning.

> > Is there any way to expand the addressbook
> > beyond the 18 it seems to be limiyed to?

Not yet, I don't have a multi-column dropdown/popup implemented yet.
That's why it's limited - screen space.

> > Can one shell out when offline?

No, but I do like the other persons idea about a second icon that
doesn't use the inverted-! (you just have to remember which one
you've started!)

> > The shell command ÝAlt-S¨ isn't
> > documented anywhere that I could find.

It was in the GP.TXT file from version 1, I decided to dump the TXT file
in version 2 and just supply a basic setup file.  The big TXT file ended
up unusable for most, just too much info for a flat text file.
Registration gets you a nice printed manual with a TOC anyway, and that's
much easier to use.

> > Well, that's it.  Hope this comes out formatted okay--it's my
> > first public attempt with GP.

It came out great, I just forgot to go back and answer it.. Doh!

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:33:40 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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Subject:      Re: PC-Anywhere or similar for LX connectivity?
Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paal Rasmussen wrote:

> The one positive feature the 360lx has is its ability to run PC-Anywhere
> CE. This lets me connect to networks, exchange info and run whatever
> user-friendly s/w I need.
> * How can I achieve a similar functionality on my 200lx???? *
> Pc-anywhere v. 8 comes with a DOS client, but this only allows character
> based connectivity, and also I am not shure it will run on the LX.

The DOS client that comes with pcANYWHERE32 8.0 will not run on the 200LX.
I tried it.  It needs a 200LX or higher.

pcANYWHERE 4.x will run, however.  I'm still in the midst of experimenting
with it to try to get it to connect to a pcANYWHERE32 8.0 host on a Win95
machine...

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:44:14 -0500
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              "Charles E. Sutherland" <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>
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From:   PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COMÝSMTP:PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM¨
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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Radiomail + ARDIS gone...

Yes ... Wyndmail is still an option.  I use them and have been very satisfied with my wireless mail for the HP200LX.
Chuck Sutherland


SY>Recd a letter from American Mobile,  which has bought ARDIS, telling me
  >to call them before July 15th to find out my options or my Radiomail
  >service would be cut off. Called and they faxed me the info for a HP
  >200lx + Motorola PM100D user...  The faxed info starts off:
  >"HP stopped producing the HP 95, HP 100LX and HP 200LXL (sic) over the
  >last few years. Unfortunately, we don't have a way to upgrade the HP
  >Palmtops to use the IKON gateway" , and gives me two options. Call and
  >they have a limited number of new NEC WinCE 1.0 devices on a first come
  >first serve basis and "we will give you one of these devices free of
  >charge for each HP PalmTop that is active on the ARDIS network today"
  >Second option for when they run out of free devices is a plan that
  >provides $$ off the purchase of a WinCE device...   Blah, blah....
  >Suresh Nirody

Not good news.  I was still hoping to go wireless if the price dropped
just a little more.... Is Wyndmail still an option?

Jim

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:53:16 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> I mean how hard can it be to place a '>' (or something similar) in front
> of each quoted line?

It's this easy.  First, do:

   I> ÝESC¨

Then repeatedly,

   j.j.j.j.j.j.j.j.  (etc...)

as required.

-Chris "vi-luvin fool" Lott

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:04:47 -0400
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At 02:21 PM 6/24/98 -0700, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

 > I used "magnitudes" loosely, not mathematically as was pointed
...
 > I was told count 95LX separately from 100-200LX. The numbers
 > you estimated are still lower than what I have been told.
 > (Oops! So now you know the direction of the "off"ness :) ...)


Oops, on my account to, then.  I misjudged your post.  Sorry.

That is better news indeed.  More LX users out there means a better market
for products like yours.

 > 1 magnitude would be 4000, two magnitudes 40,000 etc?

Yes.  A magnitude, as I understand, is a power of ten.  That is, one
magnitude is X * (1 * 10¬1), and two magnitudes is X * (1*10¬2), etc.
 > the word. The way I used it is more like "multiples" of the
 > quoted numbers, and I was told it is incorrect usage. So what
 > is correct? TIA...

If you meant that 400,000 is off by a multiples, then it would be 800,000
at minimum.

BTW, "An order of magnitudes" is a 1*10¬3 factor (order_s_ =
10¬6,10¬9,10¬12...  for the kilo, mega, giga, tera... prefixes)
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:01:18 -0700
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> > The DOS client that comes with pcANYWHERE32 8.0 will not run on the 200LX.
> > I tried it.  It needs a 200LX or higher.
>
> David, this seems contradictory.

You're right-- I have the 200LX on the brain.  What I meant was, it needs
a 286 or higher.

Sorry for the confusion, folks!

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              jviehweg@GVMAIL.IH.LUCENT.COM
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On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:53:16AM -0500, R. Christopher Lott wrote:
> > I mean how hard can it be to place a '>' (or something similar) in front
> > of each quoted line?
>
> It's this easy.  First, do:
>
>    I> ÝESC¨
>
> Then repeatedly,
>
>    j.j.j.j.j.j.j.j.  (etc...)
>
> as required.
>
> -Chris "vi-luvin fool" Lott

Or even easier:

ÝESC¨:%s/¬/> /

Ain't regular expresions grand?

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Or you might have a defective file.  Try and export out all the data
to a separate file (File | Export) and see if it fails.  Mine did and
I had create a new one and write a macro to move data from the old
file to the new file.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:24:00 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Don't forget Dosshell (comes with the full version of DOS v 5 and 6, and
works fine on the 100LX.
===============

Date:    Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:06:18 -0700
From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
Subject: Re: > 1 DOS session....
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> (1)     A way to have more than one DOS session at a time - eg

> (2)     And a way to switch between them, just like under the System
Manager.

Your personal Holy Grail <g>.

> on the SUPER site,
>         MaxDOS and SWAP ... seem to shell out - see (2) above
>         TASKLIST ... seems to be a short-cut to switch between
>                 System Manager Applications.
> On SimTel,
>         DOSamatic ... may be the ticket - but it seems big...

You forgot Software Carousel. Commercial software and a bit pricey
(depending on your means), and not to be used on 6/13/98. Takes a fair
amount of disk/ram resources, depending on how many sessions you want to
prepare for.

Shareware sources also listed several swapper, none of which I've been able
to make work on the LX (Multiple Choice, Fast Flip, etc), although I'll
admit I didn't spend a lot of time on them. They kept locking up the system.

Another old commercial software that may hold promise (if I ever find it),
is DoubleDos. I believe it was a simple 2 DOS session swapper .. may have
been the precursor to SC.

Seems there was also a shareware item some time back that just split the
available ram (ie 640k) into 2 partitions, thus minimizing any swap space
needed. Can't recall specifics tho... the hunt goes on.

- Longden

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I'm fairly new to the list and want to know where I can download Wordperfect 5.1.  I there an "abandonware" site. Please help!
Chuck Sutherland

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              Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
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Subject:      Re: FS: 2MB chip to upgrade 4MB machines to 6MB
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At 16:11 25/06/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Do it possible to upgrade 2MB or 1MB 200LX using Your chips and is it same
>as 4MB model upgrade?
>Thank You.

No. 1MB and 2MB models have the expansion connector but no daughterboard.
So, you would need to design and build your own. 4MB models are just 2MB
models with a 2MB daughterboard already plugged in the expansion connector.
This board has only one 2MB chip, but is designed for two. All that must be
done is soldering another one.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:15:29 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Actually, there is a program that does true multi-tasking. The problem
is that you need to run all your apps in 500K of memory. If you run two
programs that require only a 100K or so each then it'll work. I don't
remember the name of the file but it is definitely on simtel.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Brendan Macmillan Ýmailto:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, June 24, 1998 8:18 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ UNIX on the palmtop

                > I also
                > recommend Charles Foryth's shell for DOS. It is the
closest facsimile to
                > UNIX sh/bash I have seen.
                Though not a programmable shell, wced is an excellent
commandline
                completion utility, small and fast. Better than tsch in
this respect.

                > ...but as far as multi/threading/tasking and job
scheduling goes...
                A while back someone raised my hopes that there was a
small program
                that could do multi-tasking in DOS (not Desqview) ....


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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:20:28 -0500
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Does the ÝAlt¨+Ý=¨ combination work on the LX too? (I don't run WP on the
> LX - yet)

Yes.  At least on my english 200LX it does.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> I mean how hard can it be to place a '>' (or something similar) in front
> of each quoted line?

I couldn't agree more.  I find it very difficult to sort
through those messages that have quoted material with no
indication of what is being quoted.

After all, if it's a big job to put in the quotes manually
isn't that a good indication you are quoting indiscriminately?

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:33:08 EDT
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect 5.1

Wordperfect 5.1 is not abandonware!  Corel (or whoever owns them) still
sells, licenses, and supports WP 5.1.  Even if abandonware were a legally
recognized category, WP5.1 certainly would not fit.

You can pick up copies from former users for as low as $15.  I went to
Compuserve's WP and HP Palmtop forums as well as the local computer
clubs, surplus stores, and computer tech schools/universities to pick up
our copies.  Try the same and stay legal.

Larry Zimmerman

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:31:50 -0500 "Charles E. Sutherland"
<sutherla@SWBELL.NET> writes:
>I'm fairly new to the list and want to know where I can download
>Wordperfect 5.1.  I there an "abandonware" site. Please help!

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> No config file, but make sure you don't have a WATTCP.CFG file hanging
> around.  This would interfere with MT's decision to try BOOTP (which
> EPPPD emulates).  GP no longer looks for a WATTCP.CFG and wouldn't be
> affected by one as MT would.  You might try the IP address instead,
> just to see if the link is functioning.

Yes!  I had a WATTCP.CFG file hanging around.  After deleting it
MT worked just dandy.  I logged on to one of my Unix accounts with
no problems.  When I tried to log out (exit) my 200LX locked up
and I had to hard reboot, but I'm assuming this can be cleaned up
with a modification of modem initialization string.  So far GP
itself has been unable to hang up the modem without resorting to
the +++ so it's prolly the same deal.  It is very encouraging to
actually get logged on though.  I feel as if I'm over the hump!


> > > The shell command ÝAlt-S¨ isn't
> > > documented anywhere that I could find.
>
> It was in the GP.TXT file from version 1, I decided to dump the TXT file
> in version 2 and just supply a basic setup file.  The big TXT file ended
> up unusable for most, just too much info for a flat text file.
> Registration gets you a nice printed manual with a TOC anyway, and that's
> much easier to use.

That's all well and good, but in my case my decision to register
hinged on whether I could use GP to enable telnet access.  I know
other people had said it was possible, but I'm the kind of person
who has to try it for himself.  Not very feasible if the ÝAlt¨+Ýs¨
isn't documented.

Thanks for a great little program.  I'm about 90% decided to
register.  Do you have plans to expand the addressbook
capabilities?  Right now I have over 150 entries in my Pine
.addressbook and would be severely limited in this respect
by GP.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Subject:      Re: Programmable Calculator

If anyone is interested, I have an HP48GX calculator for sale.  Also
have two HP sram aux memory cards, one 128k and one 256k.  Original
price from Educalc was $275.00.  Last time time I looked, A new one
could be purchased for about $190.00 without extra memory. (comes with
128k built in).  You wouldn't believe what the memory cost new, don't
expect much for them.  Note: the Sram cannot be used in HP95, 100, 200,
etc. (same pin out as their test equipment, not palmtops)

Have manual and (maybe) Educalc receipt. In excellent condition.
Looking for best offer.  Please reply off list.
Regards,
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 ---- you wrote:
> what does shipping cost to Oregon?

From where?  If you're in the US, it's just normal US First Class postage.  Or you can UPS it for about $10 for a medium-sized second-day air package.
If you're outside the US, well, that gets tricky.  But, you have an AOL email address, so I assume you're in the US.
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Okay, nobody has posted the 'real' way to find hidden files on the disk.

DIR /A:H /S

It shows *only hidden* files on the entire disk.  No searching through loads
of listings, just shows the hidden files.. :)

In similar fashion, if you want to show only files, dir /a:-d works.
(There's no Files only switch, so make it No Dirs. :)

And as was already mentioned, CHKDSK tells how many hidden files there are.
It's possible the missing 2M is in a swap file that's not where it 'should'
be.  Who knows.  CHKDSK will tell how many bytes are used in hidden files.

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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:32:45 -0400, John Musielewicz articulated...

>I increased the baud rate in the pppd.cfg file from 14400
>to 33600.

I can't comment on much to the rest of this message, but I can say this; 14400
and 33600 are *not* DCE baud rates.  IE:  Go into the built-in COMM software
and look at the available baud rates.  9600, 19200, 38400, 57600 are the
possible rates in this area.

Try 19200.

BTW, 14000/33600 are DTE rates, modem to modem rates, and are independant of
the DCE computer to modem speed.  A higher DCE speed allows compression of the
data between modems so while modems are conversing at 33.6k with compressed
data, that data is sent to the computer uncompressed which requires a faster
connection speed, say of 115k.

Oh, and I use LXTCP at 38400 and have a problem occationally with LXNNTP
reporting that a message timed out and the machine soft locking.  But Rob has
suggested that LXNNTP has nothing to do with the message, it's the NNTP server
reporting it.  The lockup is still the fault of LXNNTP AFAIK.

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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:34:02 -0400, Bruce Martin articulated...

>1. A look-up speller -- Unlike a spelling checker that is integrated into an
>editor, or a "stand alone" spelling checker that inhales a text file to check
>it, this application would allow you to check the spelling of a single word
>on the fly. Simply run the program, type a word and press ÝENTER¨ to get
>either a confirmation or a list a suggested spellings. To get really fancy,
>the program could also supply a list of synonyms and antonyms for each word
>it recognises.

Well, have you ever checked out MicroEmacs?  I have used it for years on my
Amiga and for quite a while on the Palmtop, and a companion package called
Microspell offers part of what you desire.  There is a programme included
called BIC that takes a word as an argument, and returns 12 or so close
matches, and unless the word isn't in the dictionary I've never spelled
anything bad enough for it to not be returned, so the lookup algorithm is
pretty good.. :)

I've switched to PalEdit from uEmacs because uEmacs is slower and requires
CGAHelp (which may account for the slowness), and still isn't highly readable.
Perhaps tinkering with the CGAHelp colour scheme would fix that problem.
Anyway, I have archived all the uEmacs stuff except for the uSpell dictionary
and BIC and still use them constantly as I can't speel wirth a durn.  :)

If I could only apply BIC to the PE dictionaryI could save ~240k, but oh
well.. :)

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jaime A. Viehweg wrote:

> Or even easier:
>
> ÝESC¨:%s/¬/> /
>
> Ain't regular expresions grand?

Using sed I usually prefer to do:

sed -e "/¬ *$/ !s/¬/> /" infile > outfile
(NOTE that the '!' may need to be escaped depending on your shell...)

which will leave blank lines alone (and not place a '>' in front of them)


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Brendan

Well with all the other off the wall topics here
in the last month, I douubt that anyone would complain.

In any case, re windows 98 and the free 266 MHz PC
Which do you mean, the HW or the SW?

With my current 133MHz, The new Celetron doubles my speed.
I'm not crazy or intended to have W98, but since it dropped
out of the blue, I'll give it a play. It reallly is an offer
not many would refuse.  To most of the tenn people who got
it last night, it was an extra (abet great new) machine, free.

In either case, I won't know for a long while (a month) as the
PC is in the middle of my living room floor for me to feast
my eyes on awhile as I ponder how to reconfig it with my present
components.  It came with 2.5 GB and I have 6GB that I want
to switch. Then of course, all the SW gotta be reinstalled etc....
Almost make its not worth having :).

An enjoyable chore and nice time killer tho....

Yor pal al .....................

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Based on the last few days of LX List summaries, here's a list of the LX
Packeteers out there:

Ari Kosonen, OH7KA, ak61563@uta.fi
Stephen Souza, (call unknown), ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil
Jeff Johns, KF4KGO, jeffj@scott.net
Jan Allbright, KC0BUY, warfrat@pcisys.net
Martin Crundall, AC6RM, ac6rm@primenet.com
Mitchel Hamm, N8XS, mitch@palmtop.net

If there's anyone else out there, now's the time, junior.

I'm not much of a web author, but I can probably get help on sticking a
page up on geocities or something to list these and to provide links to
your web pages if you have pix of your station, etc. and to provide some
"mailto" buttons to make it easier to converse.  So (a) if you have a web
page, send the URL; and (b) if you know of any cool LX/Packet URLs shoot
them over this way too.

This'd be cool.

73 ES GL ON FD -- CU on 15 DE Martin AC6RM

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and sidebands weren't invented,
the word was passed by pounding brass
and all were well contented"
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You can't d/l it legally as it has not been abandoned.  One can still
buy WP5.1+ from coral.




On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Charles E. Sutherland wrote:

> I'm fairly new to the list and want to know where I can download
> Wordperfect 5.1.  I there an "abandonware" site. Please help!
>

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> Hmmm..... maybe the devloping and testing of Goin' Postal has driven =
you
> insane <grin>.

Is there something like "geek-out" as in burn-out? <G>...

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> I just have to tell you what I just did, it's so cool and reeks
> of pure geek. :-)
>
> As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!

Steve, You are behind the times :-). We have been doing this with
WWW/LX Plus and HV for over 18 months, and emails using old PE
for about 2 years. I had made sales after demonstrating WWW/LX
Plus version 1 in exactly this setup. It is slow, it eats
batteries, but it works nicely!

And yes - you feel like a total geek doing it in a restaurant,
while the waiters are looking on! :-)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Steve,

> In case anyone takes it wrong, I *am* the Goin' Postal author.  David
> is just yanking my chain... <g>

I just yanked Andreas' chain in the same manner, asking if he
has a license to use WWW/LX Plus Version 2! (this was on
HPHAND.) His reply was that he just checked the source code,
figured out how to hack that code and it was easier for him
than get a license, but mostly cheaper! <G>... Geeks, I tell
ya, geeks! :-)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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ok, include me in the list.  i have all the pieces but haven't had
the time to put them all together and get it working yet.

73
myron china

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> Steve,
>
> > In case anyone takes it wrong, I *am* the Goin' Postal author.  David
> > is just yanking my chain... <g>
>
> I just yanked Andreas' chain in the same manner, asking if he
> has a license to use WWW/LX Plus Version 2! (this was on
> HPHAND.) His reply was that he just checked the source code,
> figured out how to hack that code and it was easier for him
> than get a license, but mostly cheaper! <G>... Geeks, I tell
> ya, geeks! :-)

Heh heh, I should have said "I took the author to a bar, got
him all liquored up, and got a key from him" :-)

If I was smart, I would have gotten him women (as one of the
wifes shoes approaches the back of his head at the speed of
an SR-71 Blackbird with a stuck throttle) :-)  :-)

Too bad the world is such a big place, I have a feeling
if this group could get together it would be one heck
of a party.  I vote we have it over at David's place
(he's around Vegas, I'm sure he gets a good deal on
cheap booze from his mob buddies) (uh, just kidding
there David, no cement shoes for me 'ol pal) <g>

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Me too.

William Scott England
KB0UIP
wengland@iname.com

At 01:56 PM 6/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
>ok, include me in the list.  i have all the pieces but haven't had
>the time to put them all together and get it working yet.
>

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Heh heh, I should have said "I took the author to a bar, got
> him all liquored up, and got a key from him" :-)
> If I was smart, I would have gotten him women (as one of the
> wifes shoes approaches the back of his head at the speed of
> an SR-71 Blackbird with a stuck throttle) :-)  :-)

As we can all see, Steve likes to live dangerously.

> Too bad the world is such a big place, I have a feeling
> if this group could get together it would be one heck
> of a party.  I vote we have it over at David's place
> (he's around Vegas, I'm sure he gets a good deal on
> cheap booze from his mob buddies) (uh, just kidding
> there David, no cement shoes for me 'ol pal) <g>

Well, I don't know about everybody, but why don't you come on down right
now and we'll take a little tour out to Hoover Dam.  C'mon, Steve, it'll
be fun!  And I promise not to have an involuntary muscle spasm and shove
you right when you're leaning WAAAAAAAAAY out over the edge...

>:D

(Is this considered off-topic?  I'm never sure.  <g> )
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I am making plans to attend COMDEX in Las Vegas this year. I am
wondering if there will be anything there of specific interest for HP200
users. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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There are several booths related to PC Cards, CF Cards and handheld =
products off the main convention area of the Hilton. The interesting, =
but smaller, hardware vendors are usually at the Sands. And of course, =
MS will be showing the newest improvements to Windows CE :-))

-----Original Message-----
From:   James Gill ÝSMTP:jlgill@AIRMAIL.NET¨
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Subject:        COMDEX Fall

I am making plans to attend COMDEX in Las Vegas this year. I am
wondering if there will be anything there of specific interest for HP200
users. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:04:36 -0700
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, James Gill wrote:

> I am making plans to attend COMDEX in Las Vegas this year. I am
> wondering if there will be anything there of specific interest for HP200
> users. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Nothing specific at Comdex that I know of for the 200LX, but there will
doubtless be plenty of flash card / WinCE related stuff.

I live in the LV area; perhaps if there are enough people on this list
attending fall Comdex we could all get together one evening for a dinner /
users group meeting or something.

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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:11:01 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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Maybe they will introduce a new ATA flash
card larger than 200MB.

Regards,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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> I am making plans to attend COMDEX in Las Vegas this year. I am
> wondering if there will be anything there of specific interest for HP200
> users. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:54:16 EDT
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: LX Packeteers

I'd be interested in seeing a page or pages outlining different set-ups
and tricks unique to the 200lx.  I was licensed several years ago and
went whole hog for awhile - at least until the old guys started giving us
Techs trouble.

I'd like to try some totally portable packet on bike rides, boat outings,
and camping trips.  Now - if only the 200lx could handle voice-driven
input; the ease of voice with the speed and reliability of data.

Larry Zimmerman
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:06:18 -0400
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Subject:      Re: pirated s/w
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> (Is this considered off-topic?  I'm never sure.  <g> )
>
        If he's got a 200LX in his pocket when you do it, no.

                        Tuc/TTSG

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, TTSG wrote:

>       If he's got a 200LX in his pocket when you do it, no.

Well... that might cushion his fall, so I better take it out first.  <g>

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> Yes.  A magnitude, as I understand, is a power of ten.  That is, one
.....

Thanks for the explanation. I DEFINITELY should have use
multiples, not magnitudes. Loose math sinks me occasionally
:)...

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Subject:      Re: Possible?  Filetransfer HP320LX <> HP200/700LX
Comments: To: ras67@INAME.COM

On 06-24 10:57pm,

> Is it possible to transfer files between the 320LX and 200LX / 700LX ?
> If so - how ?
> The one I'm trying with is a 320LX with the CE 2.0 upgrade.
>
> With my knowledge, it seems to only accept IP-protocol settings.
> I have looked at the 'terminal'-software in the 320LX, but I can't find
> bit-rate-settings for the IrDA - why ?
>
> What I would like to know:
>
> - What software/settings on the 320LX (TERMINAL ?)
> - What software/settings on the 200LX/700LX (FILER ?)
>

How about running a tcp/ip stack on the 2/700lx? Like lxtcp and run ftp to
transfer files? Lxtcp and a dos webserver? Saw something on tvdog/dos
internet pages about a dos web server... Think about it, worlds smallest
webserver, on a 700lx?!


> As a 700LX-user, the only thing I like on the 320LX is the big screen and
> the backlight, but the software and the speed - hah!
> What if someone made a 'DOS-upgrade-ROM' for this kind of machine, would
> that mean speed ?

:-)  XTCE was discussed a few days ago...


Have a nice day!

Franklin

At the moment: HP 200LX + external 14.4 modem + Goin' Postal!
otherwise: Omnigo 700LX + Nokia 2110 + Goin' Postal!

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In addition to the regular FAQ which I am hosting on my site, there are
now two additional FAQs up:

200LX Power Systems FAQ-- dealing with the power supply and other
power-related issues.

200LX Networking FAQ-- dealing with networking the 200LX via Ethernet.

These can be accessed from the "Various FAQ Lists for the 200LX" link on
my main page.

Enjoy!

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On 06-25 09:17am, was written-}

# Is it REALLY necessary to include the COMPLETE text of EVERY preceding
# message in a thread?? - including multiple copies of the "Do not post
# binaries..." listserver tag??
# C'mon folks - a little judicious editing only takes a few seconds, and
# saves a lot of bandwidth.
# -PR
# ------------

Agree wholeheartedly.
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On 06-25 11:04am, was written-}

# BTW, "An order of magnitudes" is a 1*10¬3 factor (order_s_ =
# 10¬6,10¬9,10¬12...  for the kilo, mega, giga, tera... prefixes)
# ----
# http://comports.com/hplx   <--old stuff is new...


The way I learned it in school was one order of mag = 10¬1.
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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, m. c. Beutler wrote:

> # BTW, "An order of magnitudes" is a 1*10¬3 factor (order_s_ =
> # 10¬6,10¬9,10¬12...  for the kilo, mega, giga, tera... prefixes)
> # ----
> # http://comports.com/hplx   <--old stuff is new...
>
> The way I learned it in school was one order of mag = 10¬1.

Ah, but notice that he said 10¬3 is an order of "magnitudes."  Obviously
an order of magnitudes would have to be bigger than just an order of
magnitude.  <g>


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Folks,

If any of you are AAers, the old offical software version of the Big Book
runs nicely on my 200lx.


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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On 06-25 08:24pm, was written-}

# <D.S.>
# Ah, but notice that he said 10¬3 is an order of "magnitudes."  Obviously
# an order of magnitudes would have to be bigger than just an order of
# magnitude.  <g>
# --


Rats!  I always forget the fine print... <g>
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<snip>
>Try 19200.


I've tried 2400, 9600, and 19200. Problem remains.


<snip>
>Oh, and I use LXTCP at 38400 and have a problem occationally
>with LXNNTP
>reporting that a message timed out and the machine soft
>locking.  But Rob has

This is what I was trying to find out if someone is using a
faster baud rate and able to send mail still.


Thanks

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Comments: To: "ac6rm@primenet.com"@scott.net, ac6rm@primenet.com

On 06-25 02:31pm, the following was written:

> I'm not much of a web author, but I can probably get help on sticking a
> page up on geocities or something to list these and to provide links to
> your web pages if you have pix of your station, etc. and to provide some
> "mailto" buttons to make it easier to converse.  So (a) if you have a web
> page, send the URL; and (b) if you know of any cool LX/Packet URLs shoot
> them over this way too.
>
> This'd be cool.

This sounds like a neat idea!

>
> 73 ES GL ON FD -- CU on 15 DE Martin AC6RM

I'm practicing my code as much as time will allow so I can CU on 15 <grin>

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:32:04 +1000
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In-Reply-To:  <19980625.142853.9158.5.hobchi@juno.com> from "al chin" at Jun
              25, 98 09:52:04 am
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> Well with all the other off the wall topics here
> in the last month, I douubt that anyone would complain.
<g>

> In any case, re windows 98 and the free 266 MHz PC
You really did get a free PC!

> components.  It came with 2.5 GB and I have 6GB that I want
Mmmm 6GB

But no report on W98 for a while yet?


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              Jun 25, 98 10:53:16 am
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>
>
> > I mean how hard can it be to place a '>' (or something similar) in front
> > of each quoted line?
>
> It's this easy.  First, do:
>
>    I> ÝESC¨
>
> Then repeatedly,
>
>    j.j.j.j.j.j.j.j.  (etc...)
>
> as required.
>
Or
        :1,$s/¬/> /
(but calvin doesn't support this substitute command)


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>
> Don't forget Dosshell (comes with the full version of DOS v 5 and 6, and
> works fine on the 100LX.
> ===============
QUESTION: What is Dosshell?


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Subject:      Re: UNIX on the palmtop
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>
> Actually, there is a program that does true multi-tasking. The problem
> is that you need to run all your apps in 500K of memory. If you run two
> programs that require only a 100K or so each then it'll work. I don't
> remember the name of the file but it is definitely on simtel.

That sounds good; but do you remember if it crashes a lot? There are
a few multi-taskers on SimTel that sound good, but crash the hplx...


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> > Or even easier:
> >
> > ÝESC¨:%s/¬/> /

You can usually change the editor your mail program invokes. This
includes options:
        vi "+%s/¬> /"

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:51:21 +1000
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> YES!
> This weekend.
> Not with date, but just at the command prompt.
>
> I just went on with life and in the midst of reloading.
>
> Do you know what the problem might have been?
No idea; must be just coincidence.


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At 06:54 AM 6/24/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Kurt Businger wrote:
>
>>      For an HP 95 LX I am looking for a connectivity kit (new or used)
>>      HP part # F1001A with serial cable, 9 to 25 pin adapter 3.5" disk with
>>      software
_______________
>I saw a couple of boxes of HP95 connectivity kits by a 3rd party (NuvaTech?)
>being sold at a software liquidator in San Luis Obispo, CA (Software
>Outlet), for $5. Included the cable and software...
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have seen your many posts over the few months I've been reading the HPLX
mail - searching for a replacement LX for the most part ( my 95 LX 1 meg
died; since disected by my son.  I bought a 320CE and he won't even take it
to school (touchy subject).  If you hear of a 100-200 cheap that works,
give me a  call- 781-5218 PST...

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I would concur with your assesment of how to bring up a menu.


-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: WP51 Menu Key


>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jason C H Yap wrote:
>
>> >In that case, setting the ÝAlt¨ key to work as
>> >menu-key is the best choice (or just learn the shortcuts instead of
using
>> >the menu :-)
>>
>> I find that using the Alt key as menu key requires you to press Alt,
release
>> Alt and then press the letter for the submenus.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here, but is everyone aware that the
>Alt-= key combination brings up the menu directly?
>
>Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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works great.

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From: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: WP51 Menu Key


>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Ted Heise wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something here, but is everyone aware that the
>> Alt-= key combination brings up the menu directly?
>
>Actually, that was what I was trying to say with the ÝAlt Gr¨+Ý"Key next
>to backspace"¨ thing except I didn't have all the facts (I thought it
>_had_ to be ÝAlt Gr¨, which the LX doesn't have (just has plain old
>ÝAlt¨). Also, the keyboard definition is somewhat dependant on what
>nationality your keyboard is set up for (or what version of WP you have -
>English or Danish or so on), but WP's built-in help should be able to say
>for sure.
>
>Does the ÝAlt¨+Ý=¨ combination work on the LX too? (I don't run WP on the
>LX - yet)
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Laust
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:47:18 -0400
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Hello everyone

I am trying to help out someone who is trying to use the
200LX as the controller for a device that measures the
moisture content of the soil. They want to use it to
replace a laptop and a car battery (something the 200Lx
will do very well).

He is trying to use qbasic to access com1. I don't know
anything about qbasic so does anyone know if it will work
for this? Will qbasic make the right calls to com1? He is
using the following:

open "com1:9600,N,8,1,cs20000"

I have already told him to run under pure dos, asked him
for a pinout on the serial cable, and told him to check
com1 with a serial modem to make sure its working.

Is qbasic the wrong basic to use- should he use something like
first basic (super site)?
Basic should work shouldn't it? After all the 200LX is
pretty much an XT.

Thanks for any input.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:44:21 +0800
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Ted Heise wrote:
>> >In that case, setting the ÝAlt¨ key to work as menu-key is the best
choice...
>> I find that using the Alt key as menu key requires you to press Alt, release
...
>Maybe I'm missing something here, but is everyone aware that the
>Alt-= key combination brings up the menu directly?
 Well, I think that all the discussants know this. This thread started out as
someone asking if it was possible to use the HP Menu Key as THE menu key for
WP51, instead of the defaults (either Alt=, or as later suggested, if you
change the setup, just the Alt alone).  My follow up suggestion is to make
macros such that you don't ever have to call the *main* menu, since you jump
straight to the specific submenu. This thread is for the finicky, not the
pragmatics. We know we can use Alt=, we just wanna make WP more HP.  But thanks
.... 8-D

jasonyap

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In a message dated 98-06-25 08:45:03 EDT, you write:

<<
 Maybe I'm missing something here, but is everyone aware that the
 Alt-= key combination brings up the menu directly?
  >>
Ted,
Some of us did not know this. Thanks.

Dennis

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:53:46 +10
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   hi   Brendan
Dosshell is the task swap includ in dos 5 and 6.
it's possible to use it on the LX (free and slow)
regards

> > Don't forget Dosshell (comes with the full version of DOS v 5 and 6, and
> > works fine on the 100LX. ===============
> QUESTION: What is Dosshell?
>


Al
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:06:22 -0400
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Subject:      wp 5.1
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Does anyone have a good icon for use with the system manager?

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I think that Alt+= will get the menu in WP5.1
- Richard Smith

Jason C H Yap wrote:

> >In that case, setting the ÝAlt¨ key to work as
> >menu-key is the best choice (or just learn the shortcuts instead of using
> >the menu :-)
>
> I find that using the Alt key as menu key requires you to press Alt, release
> Alt and then press the letter for the submenus. The having to release the Alt
> key before pressing the submenu letter was a trifling irritating. If you don't
> release the Alt key, WP51 calls the appropriate alt macro. So I defined the
> Alt-F, Alt-O ... macros to call the separate submenus directly. So I don't
> really use a menu key anymore, just Alt-F directly to the menu. You get the
> submenus without having to learn all the shortcuts. Might work for you as well
> .... 8-D
>
> jasonyap
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Date:         Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:14:53 -0500
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Today I inadvertently tested the reliability of my backup filing system
and I can report that it worked successfully.  Thank goodness for backup
files!!!  If I wouldn't have kept mine up to date I would be in deep
s__t.

While at the DOS prompt (via the system manager) I ran the
command..."mem/c|more" to see what my palmtop's memory looked like.  The
standard results displayed like I thought they would except that the
palmtop locked up.  The screen display wouldn't scroll and I couldn't
get back to the prompt.  Ctrl-Alt-Del wouldn't work and it wouldn't turn
off so I took the next drastic step and pulled a AA battery out to cut
the power.  I thought that it would reboot when I put it back in.
However when I replaced it I just got a very garbled display and the
keyboard still wouldn't respond.  I did this a couple of more times to
no avail.  I finally called the HP support phone line for help.  I then
learned that Ctrl-Shift-On would perform a hard reset of the palmtop.
The trouble was that it didn't prompt me to decide if I wanted the
memory reformatted or not, I'd apparently pulled the batteries out for
too long and lost everything.  Ouch!  Or it would have been if I hadn't
just backed up all my files to my PC two days ago.  Thank goodness I did
that.

The moral of this story is to always have a current backup.  I've
learned my lesson to perform full backups more faithfully.

What caused my palmtop to hang after that DOS command though?  I'm
hesitant to try it again.

I was also very surprised to see how much memory the system manager
takes up.  I only have about 93K left to run a program.  Is that
correct?  How do people run WordPerfect 5.1 or LotusWorks, etc. with so
little memory?  I guess you must 'terminate all' from the menu of the
system manager and manually launch the applications from the DOS
prompt.  This still only gives me about 591K of usable memory for
programs.  Do people load files into high memory?  What about the device
drivers etc. that are needed to do that?  Where are they?  It would seem
that they would need to be special for the palmtop since its processor
isn't a 386 or higher.  The last time I messed with this DOS memory
stuff manually was with DOS 5.0 and an Amstrad 386 about 6 years ago.
About the only thing I remember about that is that I didn't like it.

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>I was also very surprised to see how much memory the system
>manager
>takes up.  I only have about 93K left to run a program.  Is
>that
>correct?  How do people run WordPerfect 5.1 or LotusWorks, etc.
>with so
>little memory?  I guess you must 'terminate all' from the menu


When you run Dos from system manager you are only allotted
the memory set in the system setup program. That is
adjustible from 50k to 250k (I think). What is
actually availible to system manager to run programs is on
the lower left hand side of ap manager. Mine says 406k
availible out of 513k. So
I have 406k to run programs. If you add the | symbol at the end
of the command line when you add a program to ap manager
you can selectively add all the memory you need up to whats
availible. So if the program will run in what you have
availible you can run it from the ap manager screen. If you
need more there's variuos ways to do it. Shutting down
System Manager is the easiest but its only one of many ways
to do it.

John

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Not likely, Corel still sells 5.1 -- it is not adandonware (yet).  My suggestion is that you just go ahead and buy it, it's
totally worth it!
- Richard Smith

Charles E. Sutherland wrote:

> I'm fairly new to the list and want to know where I can download Wordperfect 5.1.  I there an "abandonware" site. Please help!
> Chuck Sutherland
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See if you can get more info on the Iomega Clik!
- Richard


James Gill wrote:

> I am making plans to attend COMDEX in Las Vegas this year. I am
> wondering if there will be anything there of specific interest for HP200
> users. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Well, I wasn't thinking of a newsgroup or Usenet forum, I was thinking of a
private CGI-script message board-type thing.
Feedback would be appreciated.
- Richard

Rod Whitby wrote:

> In message <3591B0F7.BBEF0CE8@enol.com>, rsmith@ENOL.COM said:
> > Has anyone considered putting this group on a forum or message board?
> > The threads would be easier to see and there might be fewer repeated
> > answers, and therefore less wasted bandwidth.
> >
> > The only disadvantage I can see is that it would be harder to download
> > the messages to the palmtop and read them on the go.  (I was thinking of
> > using palmtop.com for that)
>
> Not true - you can use LXNNTP with either LXTCP or GP to download news
> articles and read them.  I'm sure that POST/LX also has a news download
> facility.  Of course all of this depends on you having access to a NNTP
> server.
>
> In fact, I read HPLX off a private news server every day (I gateway the
> mailing list to a local newsgroup at work and then read the messages as
> news - this really helps reduce the interruption of mail.  I do this
> for all the mailing lists I am on.
>
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Hey everybody, I'm sorry that I was so slow to read and quick to respond to those messages about WP5.1, when everything had already
been answered.  I promise in the future to read the rest of the messages first, and then reply!  Sorry again to waste bandwidth.
- Richard


Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Not likely, Corel still sells 5.1 -- it is not adandonware (yet).  My suggestion is that you just go ahead and buy it, it's
> totally worth it!
> - Richard Smith
>
> Charles E. Sutherland wrote:
>
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   >> Don't forget Dosshell (comes with the full version of DOS v 5 and
   >>6, and  works fine on the 100LX.
   >> ===============
   >QUESTION: What is Dosshell?
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Yet another resource hungry swapper that I wouldn't wish on someone who
thinks 500k of free space is a lot <g>.

It came as part of DOS 5 and included an interface like Filer and the
ability to swap between 2 sessions via a swap file. Details of how to
set things up were described in the Palmtop Papers a while back. Cons
were slowness and occasional flackiness of the display after swapping,
and it was clunky.

- Longden

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Anyone on this list belong to an NAIC Investment Club?  I'm looking to find an
existing Lotus WK1 file, for my palmtop, developed for stock selection &
tracking using NAIC guidelines.

If I can't locate one here I'll check with the NAIC List, but I thought this
list would be more responsive toward a DOS solution.

Don.

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Rick Schwaiger wrote:
> How do people run WordPerfect 5.1 or LotusWorks, etc. with so
I use Maxdos, get it from the super site :)

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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On 25 Jun 1998 A. Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

>I just yanked Andreas' chain in the same manner, asking if he
>has a license to use WWW/LX Plus Version 2! (this was on
>HPHAND.) His reply was that he just checked the source code,
>figured out how to hack that code and it was easier for him
>than get a license, but mostly cheaper! <G>... Geeks, I tell
>ya, geeks! :-)

Sure made my eyes pop, though. Until I checked--and re-
checked--the names of the correspondents. Ditto re Messrs.
Sargeant and Lawson here.

Sheesh.

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On 25 Jun 1998 A. Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

>> Yes.  A magnitude, as I understand, is a power of ten.  That is, one
>.....
>Thanks for the explanation. I DEFINITELY should have use
>multiples, not magnitudes. Loose math sinks me occasionally
>:)...

Depends on whether you look at a math text or a dictionary.

For example, Collins English:

2. relative size or extent...
3. Maths, a number assigned to a quantity, such as weight,
and used as a basis of comparison...

Concise Oxford:
largeness, size; importance...

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On 22 Jun 1998 Walter R Francis <Wally@POP.UKY.EDU> wrote:

>Okay, nobody has posted the 'real' way to find hidden files on the disk.=


>DIR /A:H /S

You don't need the colon. Just use:

Dir /ah /s

Drop the /s if you just want the current dir.

S.Todd

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On 25 Jun 1998 Longden C. Loo
<lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM> wrote

>Yes, thank-you. I had forgotten about Collins.

>At the cost of about US$48, I think I'll wait for
>others to comment first on the size and usefulness.

Collins occupies just under 10 MB (9,775,280). (I
think I installed the whole thing.) I like it, as do the
few others who have commented recently on
HPHAND, but that's still not many comments :-) .

>I have no idea how extensive (number of words =

>or definitions) either is capable of.

The box for Collins claims it has a 190,000 word
dictionary and 275,000 synonym thesaurus. Plus
pronunciation and etymology (source), as well as
wild card searches, anagrams, and look ups from
definitions. I've really only used the basics.

>Trouble is...I'd like to find something that's a working
>compromise personally speaking, of cost, size and
> feature. I ... feel silly carrying around an expensive
>electronic dictionary for occasional use that occupies
>a good portion of my even more expensive storage

I find I use it even more than a paper dictionary
because it's so easy. But then, I always like to have
a dictionary within reach :-). Even so, the hit on
my flash card hurts.

I didn't know about Jorj when I made my decision.
I looked at the Gutenberg Webster stuff, but didn't
like the "spelling" of the marked up words--too
hard to search. I finally decided that the price was
cheap compared to the cost of additional research
and shopping, and I wanted the Series 100
Multilingual dictionary too.

S.Todd

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>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

>> (1)     A way to have more than one DOS session at a time - eg

>> (2)     And a way to switch between them, just like under the System
>> Manager.

DOSShell deserves honorable mention, I use it all the time for multiple dos
session switching.  I have a webpage for help on installing it, homepage URL
is in my signature file.

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** Nur Empf-nger **

No=21=21=21=21


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>>> Brendan Macmillan <bren=40CS.MONASH.EDU.AU> 25.06.98 16.05 >>>
> Did anyone else stay up last nigh to get a copy of Windows 98
> last night?
So how is it? (at the risk of offtopicalness)

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi Chris,

yes, I=27ve thought about this too - some mail programs seem to do this =
insertion automatically, some not. Does mine do it? (I=27m using Groupwise =
5.2).

Unfortunately, your trick only results in the =5BESC=5D being interpreted =
as BREAK and the obligatory =22Do you want to discard....=22 message (yes, =
I=27m afraid I have to use Windows).
Phil


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>>> =22R. Christopher Lott=22 <rclott=40RO.COM> 25.06.98 17.53 >>>
> I mean how hard can it be to place a =27>=27 (or something similar) in =
front
> of each quoted line?

It=27s this easy.  First, do:

   I> =5BESC=5D

Then repeatedly,

   j.j.j.j.j.j.j.j.  (etc...)

as required.

-Chris =22vi-luvin fool=22 Lott

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>
> Well, I wasn't thinking of a newsgroup or Usenet forum, I was thinking of a
> private CGI-script message board-type thing.

Can you give more detail? To me, it +sounds+ like a newsgroup type-thing -


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>    >QUESTION: What is Dosshell?
> Yet another resource hungry swapper that I wouldn't wish on someone who
> thinks 500k of free space is a lot <g>.
>
> It came as part of DOS 5 and included an interface like Filer and the
> ability to swap between 2 sessions via a swap file. Details of how to
> set things up were described in the Palmtop Papers a while back. Cons
> were slowness and occasional flackiness of the display after swapping,
> and it was clunky.

Clunky but not crashy?


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Subject:      Re: 1 DOS session....
In-Reply-To:  <199806260912.TAA10723@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> from "Brendan
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Having a look at
http://search.shareware.com

                             mdosp401.zip
                                  sysutl/
                               Oct 26,1991
                                  108 K

                                        MultiDos Plus: Real-time
                                        multitasking for DOS

                              emmnet.zip
                              pc2time.zip
                                  sysutl/
                               Feb 24,1987
                                   11 K

                                        PD clone of DoubleDOS
                                        multitasker


                              multask.zip
                                  sysutl/
                               Dec 31,1979
                                   13 K

                                        Two program multitasker

Anyone tried these? Any reccommendations?



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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:59:06 +1000
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Subject:      Itsy Pocket Computing Project
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http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/

"Itsy software is based on the Linux
OS and standard GNU tools."

Unfortunately, it "is strictly a research platform designed to
encourage collaboration and development of next-generation
computing appliances and software. There are no product plans
beyond the current prototype at this time."

But it seems there is hope... though it won't be DOS-based.


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On 06-25 08:47pm, was written-}

# I am trying to help out someone who is trying to use the
# 200LX as the controller for a device that measures the
# moisture content of the soil. They want to use it to
# replace a laptop and a car battery (something the 200Lx
# will do very well).
#
# He is trying to use qbasic to access com1. I don't know
# anything about qbasic so does anyone know if it will work
# for this? Will qbasic make the right calls to com1? He is
# using the following:
#
# open "com1:9600,N,8,1,cs20000"
#
# Is qbasic the wrong basic to use- should he use something like
# first basic (super site)?
# Basic should work shouldn't it? After all the 200LX is
# pretty much an XT.
#
# Thanks for any input.
# John Musielewicz


John,

I have done this kind of thing with Quick Basic 4.5 with no trouble.
Actually, was using print statements to the device to control the
test equipment (in this case) so that the correct command format
 would get passed to the device.  Don't see why qbasic would not do the
job just fine.

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Hopefully of interest:
        http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/prolinear.html

*Processor:
  80386 SXLV - 25 Mhz (Super low power CPU)
4 AA batteries; 10 to 23 hours of use
1.4 Pounds with batteries
*Viewing Area:
  Diag (2.75" x 7")

But it is kinda old now... but I'd never heard of it:
        "The current advertised price as of July 1996 is $895"
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Yes,
I know it, but it's not possible to find any
:(
the size and the keyboadr is like the poqet plus,
but powered by a POWERFULL 386SX
an  10h autonomy!
Alain
PS: I should be happy to find one

> *Processor:
>   80386 SXLV - 25 Mhz (Super low power CPU)
> 4 AA batteries; 10 to 23 hours of use
> 1.4 Pounds with batteries

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Subject:      Stuff For Sale

TWIMC,

I am trying to scrounge together enough cash to send my 200 off to Mack
for the 32 Meg upgrade and am selling off some stuff.

1)  HP48GX calculator.  exc cond, manual, 128k & 256k HP sram cards.
    This unit has 128k built in and 2 expansion slots.

2)  Word Perfect 5.1, 5-1/4 disks, manuals.

3)  Lotus CC:mail 2.21, 3-1/2 disks, manuals (I think complete)

4)  National Instruments PCIIA IEEE-488 controller. (8 bit isa card)
    (for controlling GPIB/HPIB devices, usually test equipment)

5)  Fluke 8060A Multimeter.  This is still their best handheld.
    I may have the manual, havent seen it for a while.

6)  Valhalla Scientific 2101A "Digital Power Analyzer"  Have manual.
    In current calibration.

7)  Borland Turbo C++ 3.0, 3-1/2 disks. (will not work on HP200)


This stuff all works, in VG-Exc condition.  Don't have original boxes.

If interested, PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST.  Sorry if this off topic too
much.

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At 11:04 AM 6/26/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> (Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au) on Friday, June 26, 1998 at 11:04:57
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>ProductOrService: Dynamism Product 1
>
>Name: Brendan Macmillan
>
>InfoRequest: The price for a PC110, please.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>


Hi,

Our web site for this machine is:
http://www.dynamism.com/index2.html

Here are the prices:

PC110, floppy drive, docking station,  8mb RAM, 260mb PCMCIA HDD: $795.
PC110, floppy drive, docking station, 20mb RAM, 260mb PCMCIA HDD, upgraded
BIOS: $1095.

$26 for Fedex domestic (USA) overnight shipping.
$58 for International 2-3 day insured shipping.

All units include a 1 year warranty and special utilities: Ultracharge
(charge on the fly) and our proprietary version of English Personaware, the
Personal Information Manager for the PC110.

Thank you,
Douglas
Dynamism.com http://www.dynamism.com
+1-312-953-4479

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> Well with all the other off the wall topics here
> in the last month, I douubt that anyone would complain.
<g>

> In any case, re windows 98 and the free 266 MHz PC
You really did get a free PC! I PAID $98 PLUS TAX.
You can consider I paid $98 for W98 and the PC was free.
Hey guy I gotta luck out some time.  $98 bucks and 9 hrs
on the pavement.

It came with 2.5 GB 266MHz and whatever the multimedia it duz.
Oh yes, 32 MB of RAM the same as my LX, :).

I open up the box and its very simple, most of the gear is
in the pentium block.

Yor pal al .....................

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> YES!
> This weekend.
> Not with date, but just at the command prompt.
>
> I just went on with life and in the midst of reloading.
>
> Do you know what the problem might have been?
No idea; must be just coincidence.

Something weirder this way came, again.
I lost my date.... I sorted my files by date to see which
ones I worked on and couldn't find files I knew I worked on,
I DIR and found that the date dropped to 1/01/80. Isn't that
strange?  Hmmmmmmm.  A lot of weirdness in the last couple
of weeks. I'm not a newby. I've carried my LX around the
world for a couple of years so I think I have a handle
on it, but...... unless I going senile, weirdness happened.....

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Subject:      Free Web space for HAMs

If you're going to put up a Web page for HAM packet info then look at:

   http://www.qsl.net/

The whole site is devoted to Ham radio.

Russ
N6EGJ (but not active anymore)

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In-Reply-To:  <19980626.065411.9166.1.hobchi@juno.com> from "al chin" at Jun
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> I lost my date.... I sorted my files by date to see which
> ones I worked on and couldn't find files I knew I worked on,
> I DIR and found that the date dropped to 1/01/80.

I have found (and others reported) that +apparently+ sometimes
a hard reset (ctrl shift ON) resets the clock too.

> Isn't that
> strange?  Hmmmmmmm.  A lot of weirdness in the last couple
> of weeks.
It's a worry. Just be extra nice to it, and it will be good.

I'm not a newby. I've carried my LX around the
> world for a couple of years so I think I have a handle
> on it, but...... unless I going senile, weirdness happened.....
"Weirdness happens" - Al


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Hopefully of interest:
        http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/prolinear.html

*Processor:
  80386 SXLV - 25 Mhz (Super low power CPU)
4 AA batteries; 10 to 23 hours of use
1.4 Pounds with batteries
*Viewing Area:
  Diag (2.75" x 7")

But it is kinda old now... but I'd never heard of it:
        "The current advertised price as of July 1996 is $895"
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I know it, but it's not possible to find any
:(
the size and the keyboadr is like the poqet plus,
but powered by a POWERFULL 386SX
an  10h autonomy!
Alain
PS: I should be happy to find one

> *Processor:
>   80386 SXLV - 25 Mhz (Super low power CPU)
> 4 AA batteries; 10 to 23 hours of use
> 1.4 Pounds with batteries
---------------------------------

I have a similar one used and will give it up for $200.
Its twice the size of a LX, but if you want or need a 386.......

Yor pal al .....................

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Rick said in part
"I was also very surprised to see how much memory the system manager
takes up.  I only have about 93K left to run a program.  Is that
correct?  How do people run WordPerfect 5.1 or LotusWorks, etc. with so
little memory?  I guess you must 'terminate all' from the menu of the
system manager and manually launch the applications from the DOS
prompt.  This still only gives me about 591K of usable memory for
programs.  Do people load files into high memory?  What about the device
drivers etc. that are needed to do that?  Where are they?  It would seem
that they would need to be special for the palmtop since its processor
isn't a 386 or higher.  The last time I messed with this DOS memory
stuff manually was with DOS 5.0 and an Amstrad 386 about 6 years ago.
About the only thing I remember about that is that I didn't like it."

--------------------------------------------
I guess I ran WP 5.1, drivers, and my TSRs with no problems. If I had a
problem, I either made it work or dumped the silly pgm.  I also like to
use min mem resourses. A lot of pgms don't do enough of essentials or do
a lot of stuff you don't need and take up space, like a sewing machine
with 350 stitches. Having tried most teex editors, I now use WP 1.0 and
pared that down to 50kb with help file. It has all the basic features of
any WP.
WP also put out a smaller subset about 8 yrs ago similat to WP5 but half
the size.

Also the way to see how to screw up is when yor LX is empty. Try all
those pesky x pgms and see what happens. If shmit does happen, you learn
at little risk. Backup are needed but how much time did it take you to
reload and reorganize?

Yor pal al .....................

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In-Reply-To:  <00234C3F.3146@palmtop.com> from "Donald Collins" at Jun 25,
              98 09:08:55 am
Content-Type: text

> Anyone on this list belong to an NAIC Investment Club?  I'm looking to find an
> existing Lotus WK1 file, for my palmtop, developed for stock selection &
> tracking using NAIC guidelines.
>
> If I can't locate one here I'll check with the NAIC List, but I thought this
> list would be more responsive toward a DOS solution.

Don:

I don't know *squat* about stocks... but there was an interesting write-up
in the current Palmtop Paper issue.  A fellow developed a semi-automatic
method to track his stocks from the 200LX.  If I recall, he would
fetch prices from the internet, adjust their format slightly, and then
import them into Lotus 123.  Used macros and some auxillary programs.
Might be worth looking into.  If you don't subscribe, perhaps you can
write/e-mail the publisher - their frequently offering a free copy to
people who haven't sibscribed.  Try:

 http://www.thaddeus.com

-Chris

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> I DIR and found that the date dropped to 1/01/80. Isn't that
> strange?  Hmmmmmmm.  A lot of weirdness in the last couple

My Pal Al:

I, too, have experienced this "weird" date problem, more than once.
Dunno what caused it, I just assumed it meant I had let my batteries
drain down too far, and the RTC got reset. (that's Real Time Clock).

-Chris


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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Having a look at
> http://search.shareware.com
>                              mdosp401.zip
>                               pc2time.zip
>                               multask.zip
>
> Anyone tried these? Any reccommendations?

1) multask: gets an incorrect dos version that I was never able to get
past, even using setver.

2) pc2time: looked like it was successful, but locks the LX whenever I tried
to tobble to the 2nd session. Had to get a full copy of DOS 5's command.com
loaded into C:\ or else the program keeps prompting for the command.com in
drive A.

- Longden

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I've never used word perfect before (back in DOS days, my company used
something called Wordstar 2000 - might could get that beast running on
the 200, if I tried?).  But recently, this thread on WP indicates that
many of you are using it on the palmtop.  I stumbled onto WP on an old
desktop computer recently, and had to use it to read some old documentation
that had been prepared in WP.  It seemed like a pretty powerful program,
much nicer than WS2000.

For palmtop 200LX use, what version of WP is recommended?  Still sold?
Sources?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:16:52 -0700
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I've never used word perfect before (back in DOS days, my company used
> something called Wordstar 2000 - might could get that beast running on
> the 200, if I tried?).  But recently, this thread on WP indicates that
> many of you are using it on the palmtop.  I stumbled onto WP on an old
> desktop computer recently, and had to use it to read some old documentation
> that had been prepared in WP.  It seemed like a pretty powerful program,
> much nicer than WS2000.
> For palmtop 200LX use, what version of WP is recommended?  Still sold?
> Sources?

It's definitely a nice program.  It's a little strange for those of us
spoiled by Windows word processors, but pretty nifty nonetheless.  Get
version 5.1 if you can find it.  I had a few problems getting it to run
without freezing, but somebody had a solution-- can't remember what it was
though.

WP51 has a whole ton of features that, if you dont mind the non-GUI
interface, are pretty useful to do writing on the go.  (And if you do mind
it, there's an option to turn on the pull-down menus.  But keystrokes are
faster in WP.)  I know of people who have written whole books on the 200LX
using WP51.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:09:55 -0500
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Subject:      Re: New applications wish list

>From time to time, the members of this list speculate on what
>applications they would like to see developed for the 200LX
>...and their wishes are often fulfilled by the many excellent
>programmers we have among us!

It would be nice if someone would do some sys maint and enhance
the system we have first, but yes, new aps are much appriciated.
The more aps, the more useful, the more useful, the more users,
the more users, the more buyers, the more buyers, the more venders,
the more vendors....... Maybe a hardware upgrade to a backlit 386.


....but right now, right here,
I still cannot get CAPITALS to work.  Does it work and where?
without holding down the shift key.  I have RTFM.
Does anyone else have a problem with CAPITALS not working?

I also can't copy a group of records from one file to another.
I do a lot of DB (85 DBs) work, much more than most LXer's.
So maybe the problems are not apparent to others.

Comments are most welcome, and do have a great weekend,
Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:49:35 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Word Perfect

I got the HP200lx because it could run WordPerfect.  I'm a law student
and needed a legal-aware word processor but couldn't be burdened down
with a laptop (books alone weigh in at 35 pounds).  The 200lx with WP5.1
are perfect together.

I understand that WP6.0 might work but havn't confirmed it.  WP 5.1 seems
the best option.  WP5.1 is still a supported product and many shops still
use it daily so the prices new are high (about the same as a copy of
WordPerfect 8.0).  However, there is no reason to buy from Corel since so
many abandoned licenses still exist.

I went to our computer users meeting and found guys with old disks or
machines and bought their licenses for $15.  I also picked up a copy off
of either the newsgroup or this list for $20.

If you shop the right garage sales and thrift stores, you may find some
too.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:47:25 -0500
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> I DIR and found that the date dropped to 1/01/80. Isn't that
> strange?  Hmmmmmmm.  A lot of weirdness in the last couple

My Pal Al:

I, too, have experienced this "weird" date problem, more than once.
Dunno what caused it, I just assumed it meant I had let my batteries
drain down too far, and the RTC got reset. (that's Real Time Clock).

-Chris

Were you trying to setup any other pgms?
I was trying to set up BCC a battery charging pgm and Carousel.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:58:45 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Word Perfect

I've never used word perfect before (back in DOS days, my company used
something called Wordstar 2000 - might could get that beast running on
the 200, if I tried?).  But recently, this thread on WP indicates that
many of you are using it on the palmtop.  I stumbled onto WP on an old
desktop computer recently, and had to use it to read some old
documentation that had been prepared in WP.  It seemed like a pretty
powerful program, much nicer than WS2000.

For palmtop 200LX use, what version of WP is recommended?  Still sold?
Sources?

-Chris Lott


WP51 has a whole ton of features that, if you dont mind the non-GUI
interface, are pretty useful to do writing on the go.  (And if you do
mind
it, there's an option to turn on the pull-down menus.  But keystrokes are
faster in WP.)  I know of people who have written whole books on the
200LX
using WP51.

I'm using WP 1.0.  Its very small 50KB using the help file too.
WS 3.3 came before WS2000, is smaller and does the work. More
people used WS as (it was) the 1st word processing pgm than all
100 WP pgms combined. That's why most wp pgms today use control
functions keys based on ws format.  Like 33 RPM records they
didn't keep up.

If yor not writing a book, WP1 has enough feaures for 1/10th the size.
You can always upload to desktop to edit, its upwards compat.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:05:47 -0500
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Regarding handheld sales figures, I just ran across this data point in
a technical journal I subscribe to.  An guest editorial by a Marketing
Manager for Motorola says that 3 million Windows CE palmtops were sold
in 1997.  (No, his article doesn't have any other information - it was
about cellular phones, and had almost nothing to do with palmtops. This
tidbit was almost an aside...)

-Chris Lott

ref:  Microwave Product Digest,  June 1998 Page 3, "The Future of 3G" by
Scott R. Novis, Marketing Manager, Wireless Infrastructure Systems
Division, Motorola SPS.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:11:51 -0500
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WAS:  Re: Word Perfect
 IS:  Handheld Sales Figures

Sorry... screwed that one up.

-Chris

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I understand that WP6.0 might work but havn't confirmed it.  WP 5.1 seems
the best option.  WP5.1 is still a supported product and many shops still
use it daily so the prices new are high (about the same as a copy of
WordPerfect 8.0).  However, there is no reason to buy from Corel since so
many abandoned licenses still exist.

No WP 6 will not work on the LX.

Yor pal al .....................

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 ---- you wrote:
> >Ok, all you other Oregonians - admit it, it's true here, right?  Half
> >the population is ex-Californians playing Pole Position - the other half
> >are native Oregonians wanting their quiet freeways back...
> >
> Maybe in Eugene, but here in Corvallis (no, I don't work for HP) it's like
> San Diego: the scared ones are the old folks in Cadillacs, and it's the
> girls (I think they call 'em "chicks" now) playing Pole Position.

Well, up here in Portland, I'm of the "half Ýof¨ native Oregonians wanting Ýmy¨ quiet freeways back" but, that's just so _I_ can play Pole Position more easily.

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> No WP 6 will not work on the LX.

I was about to ask about this.  Turns out I have access to WP 6.0 here
at work - I rescused an old copy from the bottom of a storage closet.
But when I tried to install it, it didn't have a CGA driver option. I
guess your note above answers my question...

-Chris

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Hi,

I am looking for Subst.exe from DOS version 5.0 to run on my hplx. Tried
version 6.2 and it reported wrong version number. Can someone please
kindly point to me where can I find a copy ? I used to have a set of DOS
5.0 disks from my old computer, but now it was gone.

Thanks in advance.

JHChin

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:12:44 -0500
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Subject:      Mystery of the missing PATH Ý *LONG* POST (sorry) ¨

<unlurk>        ;-)

Hi all,

<somewhat long: this has an intro. AND a tech prob./Q.>

I've been lurking on this list for a good 2 months and love
it! Ýlove the palmtop too - I'd have to echo the enthusiasm
I've seen from other "new guys" on the list¨

I may not see all of your replies 'til Monday.

I've been a big fan of all AA-powered computing for years
-- still pull out the Radio Shack Model 100 every now and
then to prove I can still log-on etc. w/ it and used 1st
a 100LX and then the 200LX while in Bosnia (most of 1997 in
Sarajevo w/ the US Army (I'd try and claim "MUP" <Most Unusual
Place> but a French colonel w/ a 100 LX was there before me
... *HE* taught me about Thaddeus Computing and the whole
world of palmtopping support/expansion out there.

Expansion has been my problem.  I have a bizarre PATH that
*seems* to be there (displays ALL of it when I query from the
DOS prompt) but, in practice is not!  I can type a
command in DOS and, unless I'm in the right directory, it
won't work (bad command or file name...).

I *LOVE* what the folks at Thaddeus have done for me (no
kick-back, just a pleased customer) They've bent over
backwards for me and the end result is: a 32 MEG
Double-speed 200LX.  It started out as a 4MB stock model,
that I sent in, if that makes a dif.

I run a 6MB Smart Modem/Memory combo, left over from my 100
LX days and Buddy. Those are the only other unusual things.

I can't think of the "last change" to debug this.

Word Perfect 5.1 used to lock-up when the drives were in the
default (Thaddeus config.) swap; so I unswapped them.
This fixed WP for a little while, but not "QuickLink 2 Fax".

I'm left w/ a 2MB C: drive and the 32 is G: (The Smart drive is F:,
the usual expanded drive).  Now, WP locks up in this configuration
too.  Also PE, which used to let me run "PE <filename>" and
open that file only works in it's own directory too << PE is in the
path and I could once be in ANY directory w/ a document or
.BAT file and edit it with this handy feature >>.

Admittedly, "FastLink" (FX) and "QuickLink 2 FAX" have
never run in the upgraded palmtop, they must look for
something very stable in the PATH or drive positioning, not
a software dep. drive ... I *depend* on FX for my file
transfers and, luckily it runs fine from "A:" on an
unaltered 2MB Flash Card (and it can access G: or anything
else...).

I don't have to make that FAX program work - it's just an
example of something that won't run for me...

This is a long post, but I'm stumped!!! I almost teethed
on PATH troubleshooting and haven't had a DOS trouble in
years (it's still my preferred OS for work, etc.). I've
REMed out the drivers for the Smart Modem/memory and
rewritten the path statement to match the new drives, I've
tried re-swapping G: and C: and I've REMed out most odd
programs and drivers.

My only two additions to this are to list the file sizes and
dates and both my Autoexec.bat and Config.sys, after my
sig. (so anyone who hasn't already quit reading may be
spared looking at someone else's setup).

TIA for any help...

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003
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email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
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  Current Drivers, etc (not ALL ref. to in the setup):

SMDRIVER SYS      3305 02-09-95   2:43p
SPD31    SYS       779 08-22-97   7:19p
SPD31C   COM       515 08-22-97   7:19p
SPDALRM  TSR      1262 08-06-96   9:10p
SYMBOLS  DOC       344 08-27-95  11:00p
RD32     SYS       606 03-13-98   4:52p
RD32SWAP EXE      1043 03-13-98   4:52p
SPD31    EXE      1550 03-14-98   1:03a

I kept this part to ask if there were too many files in my
root directory or not enough free space...

       37 file(s)      65990 bytes
                      230912 bytes free

  CONFIG.SYS (warts and all):

device=c:\smdriver.sys
device=c:\spd31.exe
device=c:\rd32.sys
rem device=c:\rd32swap.exe
rem device=g:\tremm\tremm.exe
buffers=30
files=50
lastdrive=J

  AUTOEXEC.BAT (Line wraps may show up, that aren't there etc.)

@echo off
Rem
prompt $p$g
path=c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;g:\pkzip;g\pe;g:\basic;g:\bat;f:\grafics;g:\util;
c:\fonts
rem assign e:=a:
Rem for PCMCIA modem cards.
d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
rem
Rem Load the first LapLink Remote Access TSR (req. for server)
Rem call d:\bin\llras
rem
rem
rem c:\util\moreexm.com
rem c:\fonts\andrew3.com
rem c:\fonts\jinifont.com
rem c:\fonts\lxfont.com
rem c:\fonts\stef8b.com
rem buffmove.exe
rem ntkey2lx.com
g:\buddy\buddy.com

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:46:21 -0500
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Anyone have a WP 5.1 copy for sale???  Would my license for version 6.0
qualify me to use an older copy, were I able to obtain one?  I understand
that Borland and several other software companies permit this.

-Chris


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Yes, all the things described below (slow, clunky, weird display upon
return to sysmgr, etc.).  But, you can run sysmgr, word5, hdm, american
heritage dictionary, etc., all at the same time.  The 'weird display'
problem is solved by starting another app, like the calculator, then
quitting.  The same problem happens in Software Carousel.

Nice thing is the price ($0)!

=================================

   >> Don't forget Dosshell (comes with the full version of DOS v 5 and
   >>6, and  works fine on the 100LX.
   >> ===============
   >QUESTION: What is Dosshell?
Message-Id: <19980626044613.QQVW6357@Ý12.64.7.13¨>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:46:13 +0000

Yet another resource hungry swapper that I wouldn't wish on someone who
thinks 500k of free space is a lot <g>.

It came as part of DOS 5 and included an interface like Filer and the
ability to swap between 2 sessions via a swap file. Details of how to
set things up were described in the Palmtop Papers a while back. Cons
were slowness and occasional flackiness of the display after swapping,
and it was clunky.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:20:27 -0400
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I saw this in ne.forsale

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:59:42 +0100
From: Paul Medrek <paulmed@massmed.org>
Newsgroups: ne.forsale
Subject: PCMCIA 64meg flash card

64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year old; used in HP
palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for 375.00 or b.o.

Paulmed@massmed.org

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:56:02 -0500
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64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year old; used in HP
palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for 375.00 or b.o.

Will you take a trade?  How about a 44/88 MB removable hard drive or a
flash disk drive?  or even a 486 PC..........

Yor pal al .....................

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Hi all,

Has anyone tried Collins Dictionary and Thesaurus v. 1.5 on a 200LX.
From rhcc web page I was not able to establish if this version works
on the 186 CPU, the system requirements for version 2 are a 386
processor.

Regards

Antonio



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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:23:51 -0400
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I'm the proud owner of a brand new upgraded 200LX,
apparently manufactured in January (SG804...).

The hinges are _very_ tight. I don't recall how snug
the hinges on my first machine were originally, but
I don't think they were this tight.

My question is directed to those who have tried =

the drop-of-oil in the hinge trick and used the
machine a lot since: =


Does oiling the hinge lead to undue floppiness
over time?

Thanks.

S.Todd

PS I'm cross-posting to HPHAND. Apologies
to those who see this twice.

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New 64 m3g for $281 thru www.pricewatch.com

David Kramer wrote:

> I saw this in ne.forsale
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:59:42 +0100
> From: Paul Medrek <paulmed@massmed.org>
> Newsgroups: ne.forsale
> Subject: PCMCIA 64meg flash card
>
> 64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year old; used in HP
> palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for 375.00 or b.o.
>
> Paulmed@massmed.org
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Pal, Al

I don't thinki you'll get a  reply.... The original author was not on
this list. You may want to forward the message to

paulmed@massmed.org <mailto:paulmed@massmed.org>

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                From:   al chin Ýmailto:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
                Sent:   Friday, June 26, 1998 2:56 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ PCMCIA 64meg flash card
(fwd)

                64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year
old; used in HP
                palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for
375.00 or b.o.

                Will you take a trade?  How about a 44/88 MB removable
hard drive or a
                flash disk drive?  or even a 486 PC..........

                Yor pal al .....................


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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:08:23 -0400
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, David Kramer wrote:

> I saw this in ne.forsale
> . . . . .
> 64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year old; used in HP
> palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for 375.00 or b.o.

I recently bought a brand new with warranty Simple Tech 80MB card
mailorder for less than this.

It is reasonable for the seller to try to get as much as possible for his
product, but he shouldn't be surprised if informed buyers won't pay 20-30%
over retail!

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> I am looking for Subst.exe from DOS version 5.0 to run on my hplx. Tried
> version 6.2 and it reported wrong version number.

When I was using it, I used the version from PC-DOS 6 or 7. I got the
"wrong version number" message, but it worked anyway.

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:18:20 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> >                              mdosp401.zip
> >                               pc2time.zip
> >                               multask.zip
> >
> > Anyone tried these? Any reccommendations?
>
> 1) multask: gets an incorrect dos version that I was never able to get
> past, even using setver.
ditto.

Also, MultiDOS (mdosp401.zip) is unstable. It crashes often (and other
weird things such as keyboard problems), although some programs work. As
opposed to the others it does true multitasking.

A shame.

I currently have a program called "Multiple Choice" on my LX. It seems to
work, but as I've only had it a few hours on the LX only time will tell...
I'll let the list know of course.

I guess all these taskswitchers not working just shows that a 99% IBM-PC
compatible HP-LX is not enough as (almost) all the taskswitchers use the
last procent...


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:58:09 -0500
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On 06-26 01:12am, was written-}

# On 25 Jun 1998 A. Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
#
# >> Yes.  A magnitude, as I understand, is a power of ten.  That is, one
# >.....
# >Thanks for the explanation. I DEFINITELY should have use
# >multiples, not magnitudes. Loose math sinks me occasionally
# >:)...

# Depends on whether you look at a math text or a dictionary.
# For example, Collins English:
# 2. relative size or extent...
# 3. Maths, a number assigned to a quantity, such as weight,
# and used as a basis of comparison...
# Concise Oxford:
# largeness, size; importance...
# S.Todd


Yeah, but then your letting Avi off the hook..  <g>


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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

ÝWP51¨
> It's definitely a nice program.  It's a little strange for those of us
> spoiled by Windows word processors, but pretty nifty nonetheless.  Get
> version 5.1 if you can find it.  I had a few problems getting it to run
> without freezing, but somebody had a solution-- can't remember what it was
> though.

Yes, WP51 has some weird key bindings compared to "modern" wordprocessors
- F3 is help, F1 is cancel (not ESC)! and so on.

However, some of these key bindings can be changed in the setup, so it
will act more like a "normal" wordprocessor. I'm not sure precisely which,
but F1 can be made to act as help and I think ESC can be changed to
<CANCEL>. This should help those who want to try WP on the LX, but who are
not used to its key bindings.

BTW. WP51's built-in help is very good, so remember F3==HELP :-)


Regards,

Laust

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Sorry, one more time.  Regarding the various things offered for sale, I
am looking for best offer.  Again, please reply off list
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A friend of mine who used to do tech support had a customer who
mistakenly
(and seriously) thought that DOSSHELL was read as DOSS HELL.

his question was "What's dos hell?"  Took my friend a sec to figure out
what he was referring to.

That pretty much sums it up...

cheers.
.M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan Macmillan ÝSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU¨
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 5:40 PM
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>
> >
> > Don't forget Dosshell (comes with the full version of DOS v 5 and 6,
> and
> > works fine on the 100LX.
> > ===============
> QUESTION: What is Dosshell?
>
>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:17:27 -0500
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, S.Todd wrote:

> My question is directed to those who have tried
> the drop-of-oil in the hinge trick and used the
> machine a lot since:


Dear S,

My 200LX was also quite tight.  I was worried about stressing
the hinges so I took the endcaps off and applied a drop of
machine oil to each joint.  For a few dozen openings it didn't
seem to make any difference.  Then all of a sudden something
seemed to sort of give and it became floppy.  So much so that
the display would not stay in place.  In retrospect I think
I used too much oil.  I treated the disorder by squirting
down each hinge with absolute (100%) ethanol, reasoning that
it would dissolve and carry away some of the oil.  It seemed
to help a little, and after several sessions with the wash
bottle the hinges operate perfectly: enough resistance to
stay in place, but not enough to worry me about cracking.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Does anyone have a reliable method of tightening a hinge?

I've had two palmtops now that after several years get very very loose.

btw: I've never been able to lift the caps off the end.  It would seem
to take a great deal of force.

.M

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:41:39 -0700
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> Does anyone have a reliable method of tightening a hinge?
> I've had two palmtops now that after several years get very very loose.

Generally, just pull off the right cap and put a little rubbing alcohol on
it.  Work it back and forth, and it tightens it up fairly well for a
while.

> btw: I've never been able to lift the caps off the end.  It would seem
> to take a great deal of force.

Well, if you try to pull them off with your fingers, probably.  <g>  Get
your fingernail inside the crack on the back, and then the front, and just
work it open.  Only takes a slight bit of force, and once you've done it,
you'll be able to do it again.

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I absolutely agree.  In other lists I subscribe to it is protocol to keep this at a minimum.

If your message is shorter than the thread you are replying to, some editing is probably warranted.

Don.

>Is it REALLY necessary to include the COMPLETE text of EVERY preceding
>message in a thread??

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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, al chin wrote:

Ýsnip¨
> with 350 stitches. Having tried most teex editors, I now use WP 1.0 and
> pared that down to 50kb with help file. It has all the basic features of
> any WP.

WP 1.0 sounds interesting. Where can I get a copy? I'd like to try it out.
Surely v1.0 can be considered abandonware? :-)

> WP also put out a smaller subset about 8 yrs ago similat to WP5 but half
> the size.

I remember this. I think it was called LetterPerfect or something like
that.

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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Phil WHORTON wrote:

> Unfortunately, your trick only results in the ÝESC¨ being interpreted as
> BREAK and the obligatory "Do you want to discard...." message (yes, I'm
> afraid I have to use Windows).

The ÝESC¨ trick only works with the UNIX 'vi' editor and its various
spin-offs.

Regards,

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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA 64meg flash card (fwd)

> . . . . .
> 64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year old; used in HP
> palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for 375.00 or b.o.

I recently bought a brand new with warranty Simple Tech 80MB card
mailorder for less than this.

It is reasonable for the seller to try to get as much as possible for his
product, but he shouldn't be surprised if informed buyers won't pay
20-30%
over retail!

I'm an informed buyer now, thanks.

Yor pal al .....................

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Subject:      Juno on the HP?

I noticed that posts from at least one person (Al) have the "Juno message"
on the bottom.  Is it possible to use Juno on the 200LX?

I thought it would only run on Windows (where they could display ads, etc).

regards....

--tim

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:53:32 +10
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Multiple choise is a task swaper, but it only sharing th 640Mg of mem.
you can't have to 512 session.
regards
I remember you have to use the "fonction"+numeric pad for swaping.


> I currently have a program called "Multiple Choice" on my LX. It seems to
> work, but as I've only had it a few hours on the LX only time will tell...
> I'll let the list know of course.


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:25:14 +10
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Is someone try to use the Ericson mobile with the infrared  interface?

Al
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:40:16 +10
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is someone try to use windows as a dos task swaper?
if yes what is the version and minimum files to use?


Al
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I'm trying to set up my 700lx to fax my logo.  I have a 1-bit black and
white pcx file that I used with qfax, so I know the image works.

I entered this line as the first line in the fax:
&pcx:c:\logo.pcx

Of course the logo.pcx file is on the c:\.  But it still does not work.  I
was told to use:
&pcx:c:\logo.pcx&

But that did not work.

Also, is there a way to change the margins in the fax program?  When I try
to fax a smartclip or formatted text file, the fax program reduces the
margin to 57 and messes with my formatting.

Any ideas?

-Tim
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:59:20 +1000
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> > Having a look at
> > http://search.shareware.com
> >                              mdosp401.zip
> >                               pc2time.zip
> >                               multask.zip
> >
> > Anyone tried these? Any reccommendations?
>
> 1) multask: gets an incorrect dos version that I was never able to get
> past, even using setver.

> 2) pc2time: looked like it was successful, but locks the LX whenever I tried
> to tobble to the 2nd session. Had to get a full copy of DOS 5's command.com
> loaded into C:\ or else the program keeps prompting for the command.com in
> drive A.

Thanks Longden! Anyone tried mdosp401.zip?

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Does anyone know of any file convertor/synchronizer between the
HP200LX's calendar and Lotus Notes 4.5 calendar. The closest thing I've
seen is Puma's Intellisync, but it doesn't convert between these two
formats.
Any suggestion would be appreciated.
Eben

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:08:38 +1000
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> My question is directed to those who have tried
> the drop-of-oil in the hinge trick and used the
> machine a lot since:
>
> Does oiling the hinge lead to undue floppiness
> over time?

I haven't tried it, but, I'm told you should use a silicon-based
lubricant.


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Thanks for all your fast response, I have got many copies right now. <G>



Chin Jien Hung wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for Subst.exe from DOS version 5.0 to run on my hplx. Tried
> version 6.2 and it reported wrong version number. Can someone please
> kindly point to me where can I find a copy ? I used to have a set of DOS
> 5.0 disks from my old computer, but now it was gone.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> JHChin
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:51:48 -0400
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It it will work in both the Palmtop and a win95 maching $200.
-----Original Message-----
From: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: PCMCIA 64meg flash card (fwd)


>> . . . . .
>> 64 meg (uncompressed)ATA flash PCMCIA II card; one year old; used in HP
>> palmtop computer. Paid 700.00 for it; will let it go for 375.00 or b.o.
>
>I recently bought a brand new with warranty Simple Tech 80MB card
>mailorder for less than this.
>
>It is reasonable for the seller to try to get as much as possible for his
>product, but he shouldn't be surprised if informed buyers won't pay
>20-30%
>over retail!
>
>I'm an informed buyer now, thanks.
>
>Yor pal al .....................
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:50:35 -0400
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I have wp51 on my machine.  I understand I can run maxdos to get it to work
from the system manager.  Have you done this?  I tried to get max dos to run
and my palmtop froze up in wp51.  It never does this except when I am
loading new programs it doesn't like.

Is Maxdos worth the effort?  Also, any tips on how I messed up.  ps. I run
Buddy all the time.

-----Original Message-----
From: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Word Perfect


>I understand that WP6.0 might work but havn't confirmed it.  WP 5.1 seems
>the best option.  WP5.1 is still a supported product and many shops still
>use it daily so the prices new are high (about the same as a copy of
>WordPerfect 8.0).  However, there is no reason to buy from Corel since so
>many abandoned licenses still exist.
>
>No WP 6 will not work on the LX.
>
>Yor pal al .....................
>
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Subject:      Re: NAIC Stock Selection & Tracking
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If you found one could you send me a copy.

Thanks.


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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 1:00 AM
Subject: NAIC Stock Selection & Tracking


>Anyone on this list belong to an NAIC Investment Club?  I'm looking to find
an
>existing Lotus WK1 file, for my palmtop, developed for stock selection &
>tracking using NAIC guidelines.
>
>If I can't locate one here I'll check with the NAIC List, but I thought
this
>list would be more responsive toward a DOS solution.
>
>Don.
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:35:24 +1000
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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.980626231340.11183C-100000@hler.diku.dk> from
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> Also, MultiDOS (mdosp401.zip) is unstable. It crashes often (and other
> weird things such as keyboard problems), although some programs work. As
> opposed to the others it does true multitasking.

This one is 7 emails later in my mail box after the one I asked about
mdosp404.zip in - and that's after I culled all the irrelevant
emails out! There's my excuse...... thanks for mailing the info a
second time - cause when I do finally lose all my marbles, I'm sure
I'll be the last to notice!

What's that?

> I currently have a program called "Multiple Choice" on my LX. It seems to
> work, but as I've only had it a few hours on the LX only time will tell...

But I'm really keen to hear how this is going! It sounds promising.
Is it available on-line?


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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:10:30 -0700
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Hey everybody -

I saw the note on task swapping with DosShell, and tried it out. It works fine
for most programs, but I note that Quicken for DOS is interrupting the ability
to Alt-Tab back to the shell. Any way to correct this? Also,the speed of the
switch appears fine on my doublespeed 200. Is Software Carousel that much
faster?

This has let me do what I have really wanted to do - run InfoSelect in one
session and HP Sys Mgr in another and switch betweeen them relatively easily.

Any insight to the above is appreciated. Anybody know precisely what files are
required to keep Task switching and dosshell happy?

Brian

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:15:52 +0200
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Hello,

I am a german-speaking menmber of the list. Since I lived some time in
france and living now in holland for ten years I'm well in these two
languages as well. This is a great list, so if I can assist anybody
regardless the topic please let me know and I'm happy to help.

Greetings from the orange country,

Stefan Haake.

A German in Holland.

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Onderwerp: Antw: Re: Spanish Palmtop's mailing list
Datum: woensdag 17 juni 1998 14:18

** Nur Empf-nger **

Neither do I - just try to keep the number of messages written in spanish
to a minimum - there's so much interesting stuff going on, that it'd be
nice to understand it all.

As a related topic, how many german-speaking people are on the list (if you
want to reply in German, please send private mails to avoid frustrating
others <G>

Phil

A Brit in Germany


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>>> Israel Tokayer <itokayer@ARACNET.NET> 17.06.98 8.53 >>>
oye al
Yo hablo Ingles y Espanol.
I don't see anything wrong with the request of forming a Spanish palmtop
user's group'

Jeffcom

al chin wrote:

> oi cheeko
> como esta?
> favor,
> aqui se habla engles, solamente.
> muchas gracias
>
> :) tu amigo al.................
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If you look at www.pearl.de you can find Turbo C++ 3.1 for win for 48.80 DM
(25 USD) and Turbo Pascal 1.0 for win for 28.80 (15 USD) with a full
licence. The site is unfortunately in german with little english
information but you'll find your way.

Greetings from Holland

Stefan Haake

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> Van: David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
> Aan: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: Programming languages
> Datum: woensdag 17 juni 1998 3:44
>
> barrym wrote:
> >
> > Contact Borland (now Inprise) and they'll sell you a license to copy
> > an out of date version of one of their programs for $50.  Then with
> > that license, anyone who has the program can legally give you a copy
> > of it.
> > I don't know of any company but Borland that does this and, in my
> > opinion, it's pretty nice of them to do it.  They've always been the
> > most accomodating about licensing issues.
>
> Actually, the last time I contacted Borland after hearing the $50 license
> deal, they told me that you must buy a later version (Turbo C++ 3.0 is
> still sold) and then you can apply that license to version 1.0, and not
use
> both at the same time.
>
> Very nice of them.
> --
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:41:51 +10
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Is some one want to try this software?
It look like working on the 200LX.
regards
Al
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> a 100LX and then the 200LX while in Bosnia (most of 1997 in
> Sarajevo w/ the US Army (I'd try and claim "MUP" <Most Unusual
> Place> but a French colonel w/ a 100 LX was there before me
> ... *HE* taught me about Thaddeus Computing and the whole
> world of palmtopping support/expansion out there.

Linda Worthington will still take a delayed MUP you know<G>.

(Linda is the collector and keeper of MUPs).

If you imported your autoexec.bat file into your message then you have
an error as it says g\pe instead of g:\pe. This would explain why pe
only works in its own directory.

Correcting the above may solve your other problems as well but you
should also check the cfg files of all the programs that do not work to
ensure that all parameters involving directories point to the correct
drives. I use a DS 32 MB palmtop with the swap feature so c: is the
32MB drive and I have no problems.

You should also get newer drivers for the speed and 32MB memory
upgrades from Mack Baggette's web site.

One question - do you have to load the smart modular card driver before
the speed upgrade driver? Just wondering if that might be creating =
problems.

> device=3Dc:\smdriver.sys
> device=3Dc:\spd31.exe
> device=3Dc:\rd32.sys

> prompt $p$g
> path=3Dc:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;g:\pkzip;g\pe;g:\basic;g:\bat;f:\grafics;g:=
\util;
> c:\fonts

GaryS

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Message-Id: <19980627050704.EYJH87@Ý12.64.39.177¨>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:07:04 +0000

OK, splitting 640k into 2-3 chunks would work for me in many cases, so I'm
game, but I tried Mult Choice and it loaded, but then I was unable to get it
to swap using the Ctrl-numeric combo it suggested. How did you guys get
the swapping to happen on your LXs?

This program and another called FastFlip seemed to work well on my desktop,
but seem to fal short on my 200LX. Maybe someone can tell me the magic words.

- Longden

   >Multiple choise is a task swaper, but it only sharing th 640Mg of
   >mem. you can't have to 512 session.
   >I remember you have to use the "fonction"+numeric pad for swaping.

   >> I currently have a program called "Multiple Choice" on my LX. It
   >>seems to  work, but as I've only had it a few hours on the LX only
   >>time will tell...  I'll let the list know of course.

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Task swapping on hplx
---------------------

Just to summarise so far:
(0)     lots of programs don't work/are unstable on the hplx!

(1)     Software Carousel works well (but costs money)
(2)     DOSshell        works (part of DOS 5 & 6) - swaps to disk
(3)     DOSamatic       works (SimTel) - swaps to disk
(4)     Multiple Choice works (avail where?) - swaps to RAM
(5)     Windows 3.x     presumably also does this!

(a list of specific non-working programs would also be useful!)


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In a message dated 98-06-26 19:36:44 EDT, you write:
>
>  I noticed that posts from at least one person (Al) have the "Juno message"
>  on the bottom.  Is it possible to use Juno on the 200LX?
>
>  I thought it would only run on Windows (where they could display ads, etc).
>
>  regards....
>
>  --tim

Don't know if JUNO will run on the LX or not.
I;m running JUNO off of my desktop using window 95.
altho I doubt it, nn too much space and all.

yor pal al.............

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> OK, splitting 640k into 2-3 chunks would work for me in many cases, so I'm
> game, but I tried Mult Choice and it loaded, but then I was unable to get it
> to swap using the Ctrl-numeric combo it suggested. How did you guys get
> the swapping to happen on your LXs?
Is this it?
        mc.zip        (870312)   16K  Multiple choice, (multiple partitions)
at Simtel:
        http://www.iniaccess.net.au/simtel.net

> This program and another called FastFlip seemed to work well on my desktop,
> but seem to fal short on my 200LX. Maybe someone can tell me the magic words.

fflip218.zip  (930127)   99K  FastFlip 2.18: Fast multiple program swapper
also on SimTel.

No, sorry, I haven't tried either yet...

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        Hello all,

    This is my first message to the list. I hope to have a HP200LX
    soon, but I use my IBM XT w/CGA at home, a P166 elsewhere.
    I have a collection of old games for the PC, including the
    3D graphic adventure called DARKSIDE. It seems interesting,
    but it's not a shoot'em'up and the it's world is quite complex.

    I have tried to turn up something over the Net to no avail. Did
    one used it on HPLX or desktop or still has docs, etc? It is
    not much use without instructions. Btw, it is feasible anyhow
    to play some strategy/adventure games on the 200lx palmtop;
    like Pirates! (pre-gold version) or Carrier Command, Sub688i?
    With a 8Mb (or 32MB) unit and a task-swapper, you could play
    campaigns up to 50 hours!

    Another topic: I my sound like a traitor, but HPLX functionality
    should be transferred to the WinCE world. I keep thinking, that
    HP should build a unit with same dimensions, non-backlit LCD
    with 640x240 mono res., very similar to the recent HPLX.
    Should it target the engineering/medical market be it an SH-4
    based and 32MB gifted machine, maybe with optinal FPU or so.
    It needs to house a piece of EEPROM for the purpose of storing
    an MS-DOS emulator (HP either buy XTCE or develop one, first
    more ethical) with an option to the user to flash it as it
    matures. It should keep all SW currently in the 200lx (except
    maybe CC:mail) and have a boot monitor. A HP48GX equivalent
    calculator welcome.
    It should have a compact flash and a PCMCIA TypeII slot as well;
    one USB port hidden in one of the hinges and an RS-232/parallel
    switchable port as com1/lpt1 and IrDA as Com2. This is probably
    a great deal of problem, as WinCE is weak on ports, maybe 3.0.
    Anyhow, seems like standard ports are very important in success
    and HP gave bad example not updating the SIR to IrDA on 200lx,
    and crippled serial port on the 95LX.
    I think built-in modem is not OK, it sucks too much currenct.
    Also backlit is beyond reach for the sake of those 2 AAs.

    One of the questions is: should its keyboard design be similar
    to that of the Psion 3/a that it only has a closed and a fixed
    rotation open position? It may prevent latch problem with HPLX
    and make the unit more durable, if dropped open.
    What about a metal casing? Is it worth an ounce vs. strenght?

                Faithfully:
                                Tamas Feher.

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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Message-Id: <19980627050704.EYJH87@Ý12.64.39.177¨>
> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:07:04 +0000
>
> OK, splitting 640k into 2-3 chunks would work for me in many cases, so I'm
> game, but I tried Mult Choice and it loaded, but then I was unable to get it
> to swap using the Ctrl-numeric combo it suggested. How did you guys get
> the swapping to happen on your LXs?

Longden,

the copy of MC found on Simtel will not work on the LX for various
reasons, including keyboard problems. However, some kind soul once patched
it so it would work on the 95LX and that version also works on the x00LX.
It can be found on Eddie <URL:ftp://eddie.mit.edu>, but it is still
recommended that you download the version on Simtel as the one on Eddie
doesn't include the documentation...  (the file is called mc.com or mc.doc
or something like that. I think it is in hp95lx/tools/ on Eddie)

(BTW. one further benefit of the one on Eddie is that you don't need a
copy of command.com on drive A:, the built-in one is sufficient as long as
COMSPEC is set up properly.)

Oh, and while MC runs well on the LX it is not perfect. It does something
weird with the keyboard I think (and not all of its keyboard functions
work), but at least it doesn't crash the LX.


Regards,

Laust

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   >> OK, splitting 640k into 2-3 chunks would work for me in many
   >>cases, so I'm  game, but I tried Mult Choice and it loaded, but
   >>then I was unable to get it  to swap using the Ctrl-numeric combo
   >>it suggested. How did you guys get  the swapping to happen on your
   >>LXs?
Message-Id: <19980627142044.HJLE87@Ý12.64.36.170¨>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:20:44 +0000

   >Is this it?
   >mc.zip        (870312)   16K  Multiple choice, (multiple partitions)
   >at Simtel:
   >http://www.iniaccess.net.au/simtel.net

   >> This program and another called FastFlip seemed to work well on
   >>my desktop,  but seem to fal short on my 200LX. Maybe someone can
   >tell me the magic words.

   >fflip218.zip  (930127)   99K  FastFlip 2.18: Fast multiple program
   >swapper also on SimTel.
   >No, sorry, I haven't tried either yet...

Yes Brendan, those are the ones I've tried, with maybe less success than
others. Maybe DOSS Hell is the way to go <g>.

- Longden

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Laust, Thanks for this!!

Off I go to Eddie!

> However, some kind soul once patched
> it so it would work on the 95LX and that version also works on the x00LX.
> It can be found on Eddie <URL:ftp://eddie.mit.edu>, but it is still
> recommended that you download the version on Simtel as the one on Eddie
> doesn't include the documentation...  (the file is called mc.com or mc.doc
> or something like that. I think it is in hp95lx/tools/ on Eddie)
>
> (BTW. one further benefit of the one on Eddie is that you don't need a
> copy of command.com on drive A:, the built-in one is sufficient as long as
> COMSPEC is set up properly.)

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Tell ya what, I'll set it up and announce it and you will have a special
invitation!  Although I'm not sure I want to manage it all, oh well.
- Richard

Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> >
> > Well, I wasn't thinking of a newsgroup or Usenet forum, I was thinking of a
> > private CGI-script message board-type thing.
>
> Can you give more detail? To me, it +sounds+ like a newsgroup type-thing -
>
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Morning Phil

In a message dated 98-06-22 18:28:24 EDT, you write:
> This morning, I decided to try charging the batteies with the power supply
>  set to 9v (instead of the usual 12V). Lo and behold, the batteries still
> appear to be charging (I haven't had a chance to download a program to test
> this theory yet) but setup/Buddy reports 2.95V main battery. Best of all,
THE
> SCREEN IS FAR MORE READABLE!!! It's still a bit low on contrast, but far
> better.   Phil
>
Question is:
How do one change charging current from 12V to 9V (using HP charging unit)?

Thanks
yor pal al......................

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Would that "subset" you're thinking of be LetterPerfect?  Which is, by the
way, a fairly nice option that takes much less disk space and runs quite
well on the 200lx.

- Richard

al chin wrote, in part:

> WP also put out a smaller subset about 8 yrs ago similat to WP5 but half
> the size.
>

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Hello al......................

In a message dated 98-06-27 08:55:47 EDT, you write:
>  Is some one want to try this software?
>  It look like working on the 200LX.
>  regards
>  Al   Wyn@alphalink.com.au    Melbourne / Australia
>
I remember this framworks.  Not bad. Sympathy was a similar pkg.
but we already have wordprocessing, spreadsheet, and database
in ROM. It would be redundant as in wasting space, again, no?

yor pal al.....................

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Raymond;
Welcome.
You may have a corrupt settings file (wp*.set), so either rename it and try
agian or try running WP with the /x switch for a while.
Richard

Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> <unlurk>        ;-)
>
> Hi all,
>
> <somewhat long: this has an intro. AND a tech prob./Q.>
>
> I've been lurking on this list for a good 2 months and love
> it! Ýlove the palmtop too - I'd have to echo the enthusiasm
> I've seen from other "new guys" on the list¨
>
> I may not see all of your replies 'til Monday.
>
> I've been a big fan of all AA-powered computing for years
> -- still pull out the Radio Shack Model 100 every now and
> then to prove I can still log-on etc. w/ it and used 1st
> a 100LX and then the 200LX while in Bosnia (most of 1997 in
> Sarajevo w/ the US Army (I'd try and claim "MUP" <Most Unusual
> Place> but a French colonel w/ a 100 LX was there before me
> ... *HE* taught me about Thaddeus Computing and the whole
> world of palmtopping support/expansion out there.
>
> Expansion has been my problem.  I have a bizarre PATH that
> *seems* to be there (displays ALL of it when I query from the
> DOS prompt) but, in practice is not!  I can type a
> command in DOS and, unless I'm in the right directory, it
> won't work (bad command or file name...).
>
> I *LOVE* what the folks at Thaddeus have done for me (no
> kick-back, just a pleased customer) They've bent over
> backwards for me and the end result is: a 32 MEG
> Double-speed 200LX.  It started out as a 4MB stock model,
> that I sent in, if that makes a dif.
>
> I run a 6MB Smart Modem/Memory combo, left over from my 100
> LX days and Buddy. Those are the only other unusual things.
>
> I can't think of the "last change" to debug this.
>
> Word Perfect 5.1 used to lock-up when the drives were in the
> default (Thaddeus config.) swap; so I unswapped them.
> This fixed WP for a little while, but not "QuickLink 2 Fax".
>
> I'm left w/ a 2MB C: drive and the 32 is G: (The Smart drive is F:,
> the usual expanded drive).  Now, WP locks up in this configuration
> too.  Also PE, which used to let me run "PE <filename>" and
> open that file only works in it's own directory too << PE is in the
> path and I could once be in ANY directory w/ a document or
> .BAT file and edit it with this handy feature >>.
>
> Admittedly, "FastLink" (FX) and "QuickLink 2 FAX" have
> never run in the upgraded palmtop, they must look for
> something very stable in the PATH or drive positioning, not
> a software dep. drive ... I *depend* on FX for my file
> transfers and, luckily it runs fine from "A:" on an
> unaltered 2MB Flash Card (and it can access G: or anything
> else...).
>
> I don't have to make that FAX program work - it's just an
> example of something that won't run for me...
>
> This is a long post, but I'm stumped!!! I almost teethed
> on PATH troubleshooting and haven't had a DOS trouble in
> years (it's still my preferred OS for work, etc.). I've
> REMed out the drivers for the Smart Modem/memory and
> rewritten the path statement to match the new drives, I've
> tried re-swapping G: and C: and I've REMed out most odd
> programs and drivers.
>
> My only two additions to this are to list the file sizes and
> dates and both my Autoexec.bat and Config.sys, after my
> sig. (so anyone who hasn't already quit reading may be
> spared looking at someone else's setup).
>
> TIA for any help...
>
> --tim
>
> CPT Tim Raymond
> III Corps Public Affairs
> Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003
> ---------------------------------
> Truth is the antidote to fear...  -- Emerson.
> email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
> 71250.1550@compuserve.com
>
>   Current Drivers, etc (not ALL ref. to in the setup):
>
> SMDRIVER SYS      3305 02-09-95   2:43p
> SPD31    SYS       779 08-22-97   7:19p
> SPD31C   COM       515 08-22-97   7:19p
> SPDALRM  TSR      1262 08-06-96   9:10p
> SYMBOLS  DOC       344 08-27-95  11:00p
> RD32     SYS       606 03-13-98   4:52p
> RD32SWAP EXE      1043 03-13-98   4:52p
> SPD31    EXE      1550 03-14-98   1:03a
>
> I kept this part to ask if there were too many files in my
> root directory or not enough free space...
>
>        37 file(s)      65990 bytes
>                       230912 bytes free
>
>   CONFIG.SYS (warts and all):
>
> device=c:\smdriver.sys
> device=c:\spd31.exe
> device=c:\rd32.sys
> rem device=c:\rd32swap.exe
> rem device=g:\tremm\tremm.exe
> buffers=30
> files=50
> lastdrive=J
>
>   AUTOEXEC.BAT (Line wraps may show up, that aren't there etc.)
>
> @echo off
> Rem
> prompt $p$g
> path=c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;g:\pkzip;g\pe;g:\basic;g:\bat;f:\grafics;g:\util;
> c:\fonts
> rem assign e:=a:
> Rem for PCMCIA modem cards.
> d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
> rem
> Rem Load the first LapLink Remote Access TSR (req. for server)
> Rem call d:\bin\llras
> rem
> rem
> rem c:\util\moreexm.com
> rem c:\fonts\andrew3.com
> rem c:\fonts\jinifont.com
> rem c:\fonts\lxfont.com
> rem c:\fonts\stef8b.com
> rem buffmove.exe
> rem ntkey2lx.com
> g:\buddy\buddy.com
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:09:24 -0600
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Chris;
If I remember the licensing rules at WPCorp correctly, you can use a current
license to run a previous version.

BTW folks: I can concur with a number of posts here:  WordPerfect is a very
nice program.  It's suitable for anyone who wants simple, stable, powerful,
capable and un-cluttered word processing in a plain DOS environment. And, it
has Reveal Codes!  Something that Microsoft can only long for!  I absolutely,
positively, whole-heartedly recommend WordPerfect!  And not just because I
used to work for them! ;-)

Richard Smith


R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Anyone have a WP 5.1 copy for sale???  Would my license for version 6.0
> qualify me to use an older copy, were I able to obtain one?  I understand
> that Borland and several other software companies permit this.
>
> -Chris
>
> --
>
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> Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:43:50 -0700
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I run WP5.1 on my 200lx with maxdos on a regular basis.
No problems except with screen extender so I removed screen extender.

On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. wrote:

> I have wp51 on my machine.  I understand I can run maxdos to get it to work
> from the system manager.  Have you done this?  I tried to get max dos to run
> and my palmtop froze up in wp51.  It never does this except when I am
> loading new programs it doesn't like.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:58:37 -0700
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For Sale one copy of letter perfect with 5.25 disks, and manual and
licence.  LetterPefect uses the same file format as wordperfect 5.1 , the
same printer drivers and has an option to set the help key to F1.

Price $15.00 US, plus shipping.  I would perfer to sell to someone in the
US simply because shipping is much easier.

============ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING ========================
If you are an old WP51 user DO NOT BUY this as you will end up frustrated
with it's limitations.
===============================-------===========================

On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Would that "subset" you're thinking of be LetterPerfect?  Which is, by the
> way, a fairly nice option that takes much less disk space and runs quite
> well on the 200lx.
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On Mon, 22 Jun David Sargeant wrote:

>> Is there a noticable speed difference between a machine with
T2T/Thaddeus
>> upgrade to 8MB doublespeed and one upgraded to 32MB doublespeed?

>As far as speed of the RAM disk goes, yes.  The 32MB drive is about twic=
e
>as fast as the 8MB / 6MB / 5MB / 4MB / 2MB / 1MB drives.  This is largel=
y
>due to Mack's driver for the 32MB drive performing much better than the
>built-in driver in the BIOS.

David:

Partly on the basis of this and similar comments from others,
I ordered my 32MB double-speed unit.

After a couple of hours of testing with DOS apps, I have to say
that I don't think the 32MB is any faster than the 8MB, which
does not require a driver. Nor does it seem faster than my
flash card.

I'm still delighted to have 32MB on board, but I'm wondering
if I can tweak the settings somehow to see the speed
difference that you've reported.

Thanks.

S.Todd

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I was using it a long time ago,
and fond it at an auction several month ago.
So I install it.
FW3 need a lot af memory (400k).
what I like is you can use in the same frame (file) the speadsheet, the database, text...
like a windows program.
there is a macro language too: Fred
regards
Alain
> I remember this framworks.  Not bad. Sympathy was a similar pkg.
> but we already have wordprocessing, spreadsheet, and database
> in ROM. It would be redundant as in wasting space, again, no?
>
> yor pal al.....................
>


Al
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:00:57 -0700
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S.Todd wrote:
>
> Partly on the basis of this and similar comments from others,
> I ordered my 32MB double-speed unit.
> After a couple of hours of testing with DOS apps, I have to say
> that I don't think the 32MB is any faster than the 8MB, which
> does not require a driver. Nor does it seem faster than my
> flash card.

I determined it was faster by running the "speed test" batch file.  Whereas
my other C: drives took 4-5 seconds to complete this, the 32MB drive took
around 2.25 seconds.

> I'm still delighted to have 32MB on board, but I'm wondering
> if I can tweak the settings somehow to see the speed
> difference that you've reported.

I presume you have the latest driver?

A lot will depend, of course, on what sort of app you're running.  The 32MB
drive is about twice as fast with respect to writing speed.
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In a message dated 98-06-27 11:36:41 EDT, you write:

>
>  Would that "subset" you're thinking of be LetterPerfect?  Which is, by the
>  way, a fairly nice option that takes much less disk space and runs quite
>  well on the 200lx.
>
>  - Richard
>
>  al chin writes:
>
WP also put out a smaller subset about 8 yrs ago similat to WP5 but is half
the size called LETTERPERFECT.   Does everything WP 5 does with less
space.  The problem is where to find it now.........

Again if you want a gooodd wordprocessor with gadgets in 50K, suggest
WP 1.0,  again the problem where to find it.   One version is on a flash card.
If the board mgrs says and confirms this is abandon ware, I will upload my
copy.

yor pal al.......................

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:02:35 -0400
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What is a sceen extender?
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Word Perfect


>I run WP5.1 on my 200lx with maxdos on a regular basis.
>No problems except with screen extender so I removed screen extender.
>
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. wrote:
>
>> I have wp51 on my machine.  I understand I can run maxdos to get it to
work
>> from the system manager.  Have you done this?  I tried to get max dos to
run
>> and my palmtop froze up in wp51.  It never does this except when I am
>> loading new programs it doesn't like.
>
>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:03:07 -0400
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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 David Sargeant wrote:

>I presume you have the latest driver?

Files are dated Feb 26 through March 21. I'll check the
Times2Tech site.

>A lot will depend, of course, on what sort of app you're
>running.  The 32MB drive is about twice as fast with =

>respect to writing speed.

Ah. Some of my tests involved reading (loading apps).
I also did some screen generation/compiling in FoxPro,
which involves reading, writing, and a whole lot of
"thinking" <g>.

Thanks for your help.

S.Todd

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:31:34 +0200
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OK! Its this time of month dept:
Gripes and groans:
The HP200LX and all its public domain s/w is allmost an exercise in
futility... (sigh)
Everything works ..allmost....
There is no decent fax software that supports graphics files that any of
the compact drawing packages produce, there is no dBase compatible database
(yes I want to program!) (and I have lost my dBase 3 for msdos disks long
ago!)
The 123 add-inns work allmost, the calculator programming is allmost
comprehensible, TCPIP s/w is either arcane (nettamer) expensive (wwwlx) or
slow and outdated (minuet with only SLIP) etc etc etc.
End of Gripes And Groans.

Beginning of meaningfull questions dept:

I am baffled as to why the irda s/w at the SUPER site doesn't work with
123.
The txt file says it only works with the built in apps, and that it doesn't
work at all with 123. This is a half truth. It will print from 123 but it
prints everything 3 times for good measure.
The s/w was written long ago. Where is the author?? Why are there no new
versions? can we  persuade him to get in touch with some of the 123 dev.
team to work out the routines that 123 used to control the printer? (They
are really arcane, like writing directly to the port and ignoring printer
feedback, and lacking "where on the page am I?" routines)

As it is the IRDA s/w is just another "nearly made it" apps that we seem to
be stuck with.
I for one would gladly pay say $500 for an application suite that would:
allow me to fax international characters and graphics
provide a half way normal i/f to nettamer
print to irda printers without hassle
allow me to manipulate a database (joins & real select and update
statements)

Should we form an initiative and hire someone to do the job? Better a
perfect 200lx in a few months than waiting around for Bill & co to get it
right! Right?

Cheers to you all from Paul
(This really made me feel better, getting it out like this!!!)

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:53:14 -0700
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S.Todd wrote:
>
> Files are dated Feb 26 through March 21. I'll check the
> Times2Tech site.

Good plan; the later RD32.SYS driver was a smidge faster.

> Ah. Some of my tests involved reading (loading apps).
> I also did some screen generation/compiling in FoxPro,
> which involves reading, writing, and a whole lot of
> "thinking" <g>.

If I recall, the RAM speed isn't that much faster than even a flash card
for reading-- so there's precious little difference no matter which kind of
DRAM you're using.  The 32MB drive definitely shines at writing though. <g>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:02:29 -0400
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:12:44 -0500
"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL> wrote:
I *depend* on FX for my file
> transfers and, luckily it runs fine from "A:" on an
> unaltered 2MB Flash Card (and it can access G: or anything
> else...).

if you connect to your desktop using Laplink Remote then you can run FX
in Local mode. Then I don't think it matters what drives are remapped.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:16:03 +0200
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I'm using a Targus Slip Case ( 49 hfl. about 25 USD ). It is very stable.
It looks a lot like the case Mitchell Hamm shows on
http://w3.one.net/~hamm/img/ripoff.jpg
By looking at the picture I guess the targus case is more solid and does
the same job. There are a couple of other cases from them but they are
quite expensive. Take a look at http://www.targuscases.com/slip.html

Greetings from Holland

Stefan Haake


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Van: Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Aan: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: Pouch
Datum: maandag 15 juni 1998 22:56

45m13s ago ...
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:00:48 -0400 (EDT), Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> The RIPOFF is a belt holster case.
> I think it was originally made for HP
> calculators. It has a pad inside, so
> your machine is protected.

It's a very good case; one of my favorites. There is a picture of it
and its nice belt clip here:

http://w3.one.net/~hamm/img/ripoff.jpg

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:26:29 -0500
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I've started a topcards page, currently displaying the original colour JPegs
as thumbnails, delivering the PCX files for direct use as Topcards.  They're
appropriately sized, B/W, and in inverse so they show up correctly as
topcards.  Also, you can download all PCX files at once in a ZIP file.

It's off of the 200LX page, which is off of my main page.  URL is in my
signature file, as always.

Would appreciate any comments, and submissions.. :)

--
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:50:28 -0700
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I used FWIV on the palmtop and it works great. It was an awesome program. It
lets you do a lot of programming and fine tuning with its FRED programming
language.

-----Original Message-----
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Chin
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 1998 8:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Framework III from Ashton tate


Hello al......................

In a message dated 98-06-27 08:55:47 EDT, you write:
>  Is some one want to try this software?
>  It look like working on the 200LX.
>  regards
>  Al   Wyn@alphalink.com.au    Melbourne / Australia
>
I remember this framworks.  Not bad. Sympathy was a similar pkg.
but we already have wordprocessing, spreadsheet, and database
in ROM. It would be redundant as in wasting space, again, no?

yor pal al.....................

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:06:13 -0700
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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. wrote:

> What is a sceen extender?

 An add on program to change the fonts and show bold underline and italic
on the screen.


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Al,

It was very painless and didn't take very long.  I only have about 800K
of data on my c: drive.  While I was restoring my Palmtop I just
downloaded and read my email.  You gotta love backups!

al chin wrote:
>
> Also the way to see how to screw up is when yor LX is empty. Try all
> those pesky x pgms and see what happens. If shmit does happen, you learn
> at little risk. Backup are needed but how much time did it take you to
> reload and reorganize?

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:43:26 -0400
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Try This:

Under the DOSSHELL program advanced tab, set it from text to graphics mode.

Rodger

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Subject:  Using DosShell for task switching

Hey everybody -

I saw the note on task swapping with DosShell, and tried it out. It works fine
for most programs, but I note that Quicken for DOS is interrupting the ability
to Alt-Tab back to the shell. Any way to correct this? Also,the speed of the
switch appears fine on my doublespeed 200. Is Software Carousel that much
faster?

This has let me do what I have really wanted to do - run InfoSelect in one
session and HP Sys Mgr in another and switch betweeen them relatively easily.

Any insight to the above is appreciated. Anybody know precisely what files are
required to keep Task switching and dosshell happy?

Brian

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Subject:      Re: 1 DOS session....

   >Laust, Thanks for this!!
   >Off I go to Eddie!
Message-Id: <19980627223631.LUPF87@Ý12.64.37.43¨>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:36:31 +0000

I second that thanks. I noticed that the "kind soul" appears to be a
fellow Dane (to Laust). A bit odd that the executable on eddie was
uuencoded right inside mc.doc.

- Longden

   >> However, some kind soul once patched
   >> it so it would work on the 95LX and that version also works on
   >>the x00LX.  It can be found on Eddie <URL:ftp://eddie.mit.edu>,
   >>but it is still  recommended that you download the version on
   >>Simtel as the one on Eddie  doesn't include the documentation...
   >>(the file is called mc.com or mc.doc  or something like that. I
   >think it is in hp95lx/tools/ on Eddie) >
   >> (BTW. one further benefit of the one on Eddie is that you don't
   >>need a  copy of command.com on drive A:, the built-in one is
   >>sufficient as long as  COMSPEC is set up properly.)

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   >the copy of MC found on Simtel will not work on the LX for various
   >reasons, including keyboard problems. However, some kind soul once
   >patched it so it would work on the 95LX and that version also works
   >on the x00LX. It can be found on Eddie <URL:ftp://eddie.mit.edu>,
   >but it is still recommended that you download the version on Simtel
   >as the one on Eddie doesn't include the documentation...  (the file
   >is called mc.com or mc.doc or something like that. I think it is in
   >hp95lx/tools/ on Eddie)
Message-Id: <19980627224308.MWVA8258@Ý12.64.8.144¨>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:43:08 +0000

   >(BTW. one further benefit of the one on Eddie is that you don't
   >need a copy of command.com on drive A:, the built-in one is
   >sufficient as long as COMSPEC is set up properly.)
   >Oh, and while MC runs well on the LX it is not perfect. It does
   >something weird with the keyboard I think (and not all of its
   >keyboard functions work), but at least it doesn't crash the LX.

OK, I've had a chance to try this a bit now. I can see why the one at eddie
lacks documentation as the version at Simtel says registration is a whopping
$64 (compared to just a bit more for Software Carousel).

Aside from that, I'm having problems with the display while swapping between
even plain text windows (Calvin on one and a simple file manager on the
other). Swapping back to a full screen session seemed to lose the page (ie
is blank or missing chunks) even tho the application (Calvin, etc) appears
to be working OK. I'v tried the DISPCTL +C +K suggested in the doc.
And COMSPEC is setup OK too.

Additionally, it looks like the other MC features mentioned in the Simtel
doc have been disabled including the Cntl/+/- to terminate MC, even tho I
found this can be done using a simple DOS EXIT (which then gets a
"catastrophic error" msg from MC. Well, you said weird...

If not DOSS Hell, then perhaps Purgato?

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: Framework III  from Ashton tate

Message-Id: <19980627224317.MWVX8258@Ý12.64.8.144¨>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:43:17 +0000

I have FW3 installed on my 200LX (runs using MaxDOS and can use expanded
memory) and also on my desktop. Had it since it came out ages before
Windoze was a household word. Just a word of warning, it appears that it's
still being supported and marketed tho no longer by Borland (who bought out
Ashton-Tate). See www.framework.com.

The guy there says he got the rights to the source from Borland and has
taken it to FW-6. Also note that he's a 200LX user and has developed a
special version for the LX, he may even be in our audience. I believe he's
selling FW-6 for $250, and I don't know about the LX version, but I'm sure
it's not cheap. He claims FW has a following in Germany.

When I first got my LX, the first consideration was to run FW3 on it. After
I got to use the built-in apps, FW became less important, tho it's still
used to integrate parts of a project or report from time to time. It
differed from other integrated packages in its hierarchic orientation ..
picture something like PC-Outline, but being able to imbed spreadsheets,
databases and graphs along with text documents in the outline.

And so yes Al, it is somewhat redundant given the built-ins, but no more so
than old friends if we have the time and resources for them.

BTW Alain, if you haven't found it already, FW depends heavily on the
"grey+" and "grey-" keys on a std numeric keypad to navigate. On the LX,
this is done using Fn-2 and Fn-1, respectively.

- Longden

   >I was using it a long time ago,
   >and fond it at an auction several month ago.
   >So I install it.
   >FW3 need a lot af memory (400k).
   >what I like is you can use in the same frame (file) the speadsheet,
   >the database, text... like a windows program.
   >there is a macro language too: Fred

   >> I remember this framworks.  Not bad. Sympathy was a similar pkg.
   >> but we already have wordprocessing, spreadsheet, and database
   >> in ROM. It would be redundant as in wasting space, again, no?

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   >Laust, Thanks for this!!
   >Off I go to Eddie!
Message-Id: <19980627224326.MWXE8258@Ý12.64.8.144¨>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:43:26 +0000

I second that thanks. I noticed that the "kind soul" appears to be a
fellow Dane (to Laust). A bit odd that the executable on eddit was
uuencoded right inside mc.doc.

- Longden

   >> However, some kind soul once patched
   >> it so it would work on the 95LX and that version also works on
   >>the x00LX.  It can be found on Eddie <URL:ftp://eddie.mit.edu>,
   >>but it is still  recommended that you download the version on
   >>Simtel as the one on Eddie  doesn't include the documentation...
   >>(the file is called mc.com or mc.doc  or something like that. I
   >think it is in hp95lx/tools/ on Eddie) >
   >> (BTW. one further benefit of the one on Eddie is that you don't
   >>need a  copy of command.com on drive A:, the built-in one is
   >>sufficient as long as  COMSPEC is set up properly.)

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:48:27 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Mystery of the missing PATH Ý *LONG* POST (sorry) ¨
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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>  AUTOEXEC.BAT (Line wraps may show up, that aren't there etc.)
>
>@echo off
>Rem
>prompt $p$g
>path=c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;g:\pkzip;g\pe;g:\basic;g:\bat;f:\grafics;g:\util;
>c:\fonts

Hi Tim

I dont know if this is a typo or if it is the prob..g\pe missing colon..
If this is the case it may not process the PATH properly..  I had a similar
prob a few years ago...

Amasing what trouble two dots can wreak..

Hope this helps

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:59:40 -0700
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Comments: To: Hobchi@AOL.COM

> I remember this framworks.  Not bad. Sympathy was a similar pkg.

Actually, I think that was Symphony.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:50:52 -0500
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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:09:24 -0600, "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith"
<rsmith@ENOL.COM> wrote:

>If I remember the licensing rules at WPCorp correctly, you can use a current
>license to run a previous version.

If this is true, thenn note that WordPerfect Suite 7 bundles are pretty cheap
now. CompUSA even has a "free" Ýcost - rebate = $0¨ WP7 _upgrade_ special
next week (6/28 - 7/4) -- when I've looked at these boxes they've usually
allowed "competitive" upgrades, so if you have another Windows word proc,
check it out. Also www.cdw.com lists the full Windows WP7 suite at USD
$32.91, in stock. I've seen WP8 suite upgrades for $75 - $100.

Otherwise I have a few boxed copies of WP 5.1 DOS, with Reference & Workbook
volumes, unopened media (3.5" floppies; I do have one set of 5.25" I could
swap), and license certificates that my roommate wishes I would sell. Please
email me privately if you're interested, especially if you have a legit copy
of Windows 3.1 / 3.11 or WABI 2.2 for Linux that you'd like to barter ;-)

-Peter

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Does anyone have any experince with Framework V for the
200LX? I was wondering if it can run under system manager
and how well nettamer is integrated into the program. Does
it use the HP Calc for backsolving? Thanks

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:44:48 -0400
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I have following software for sale or trade:

1. MS-DOS Ver. 3.3
    -3.5" disks, box, manual, registration card.

2. MS-Windows/286
    -3.5" disks, box, manuals.

3. GW-Basic Ver. 3.20
    -3.5" disk only.

4. MS Works Ver. 3.0 (for DOS)
    -3.5" disks and manual.

5. HP Palmtop Paper Subscriber PowerDisk
    -5 disks (1993,  Fall 1994- Summer 1995, Fall 1995- Summer 1996,
      1996/1997, 1998.)

And I am looking for *older* Turbo PASCAL.

Please E-mail me if you are interested.

Thank you,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
          QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:56:38 +10
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What is the difference with FW3.
can you read/write any RTF files?
now much disk space is it using?
regards
Alain

> I used FWIV on the palmtop and it works great. It was an awesome program.
> It lets you do a lot of programming and fine tuning with its FRED
> programming language.


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:27:05 +10
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It's a shame, but as usual the new and future versions dosen't work on the palmtop.
FW6 ia 32 bits!
Anyone have anyexperience with FW 5?
Alain

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:41:43 -0400
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Anyone looking for information on how to write Lotus 123 macros or looking for
some good examples of macros should check out this book:

    Classic 1-2-3 Macros, E. Michael Lunsford, Wiley, ISBN 0-471-06398-3,
$29.99, 431 pages

Covers all versions of Lotus 123.

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In a message dated 98-06-27 17:06:42 EDT, you write:

>
>  > What is a sceen extender?
>
    I thought it wuz something that stretches the screen to make it wider.
    instead its

>   An add on program to change the fonts and show bold underline and italic
>  on the screen.
>
 yor pal al clowning around.............

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   >Does anyone have any experince with Framework V for the
   >200LX? I was wondering if it can run under system manager
   >and how well nettamer is integrated into the program. Does
   >it use the HP Calc for backsolving? Thanks
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:55:43 +0000

You should check www.framework.com, maybe there's an email address for the
support person. My guess is that the integration will be light. The last
time I talked to him (by phone, last year), Nettamer was just being invoked
as another DOS app. At the time, the extent of his integration was to
re-program two of the custom LX keys to do the FW In-Out navigation functions.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:02:47 -0400
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At 02:07 PM 6/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I have an HP200LX with 2MB of memory (basic unit) and a 10MB HP flash
>disk.  The flash disk is compressed with stacker to yield 20MB of
>storage.  I'm looking to uncompress the card at this time to try reading
>it in another computer (an NCR 3115 Safari Notebook computer).  I can't
>find my documentation on the card.  Can somebody please post the
>procedure to uncompress a flash disk?  And if anyone has any direct
>experience with using a 200LX and a Safari 3115 together, I'd appreciate
>any help you can provide.
>PS.  I'm new to this stuff, so type slow so I can understand you.  :)

If your card is stacked with Stacker 3.0 (which is very likely), there is a
program that you can run to temporarily "mount" the flash in your laptop.
It's included on most flash cards, but it's also easily lost.  ("This is
the most delicate and important device you will ever handle, and also the
first thing that falls out of the box.")  I think I still have that
program, if you want it.  It's also available at http://comports.com/hplx .
 Hope this helps!

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:49:22 -0500
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Jim
Do you still need SUBST?

I should have one someplace.

Yor pal al .....................

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I have turbo pascal 3.1.  I am interested in a trade.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:35:17 +1000
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> Aside from that, I'm having problems with the display while swapping between
> even plain text windows (Calvin on one and a simple file manager on the
> other).

Just tried it out on a 386, and found that wasn't coping with calvin
at all! Crashing, locking up completely.


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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:24:54 -0700
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>>And yes - you feel like a total geek doing Ýemail¨ in a
restaurant, while the waiters are looking on! :-) <<

Yes, yes!  I agree. I do it. And I love it!

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:11:38 -0400
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              "S.Todd" <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 Antonio Menezes wrote:

>Has anyone tried Collins Dictionary and Thesaurus v. 1.5 on a 200LX.

Yes. Works beautifully.

S.Todd

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> and finally:
>> - fiber-optic cable is being installed (world-wide) at the speed of
sound!! >> (~750 miles per hour)
>
>Claiming that it is being installed at the speed of sound is a bit
>misleading, isn't it? I mean obviously you never reach the speed of soun=
d
>as the cable is being installed in several different places (and
>directions) at the same time...
>
>Still, those were interesting facts!

Don't they teach you parallel distributed computing at Compenhagen
University?  ;8-)

Jorgen


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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:10:32 +0100
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Hi :-)

I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad 1640 in conjunction with
dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of 123 on the 200LX ?

Cheers
Ross

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Date: 28 June 1998 01:46

Does anyone have any experince with Framework V for the
200LX? I was wondering if it can run under system manager
and how well nettamer is integrated into the program. Does
it use the HP Calc for backsolving? Thanks

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I tried out those new Energizer high capacity alkaline batteries on a trip.

A pair of these batteries provided 17 hrs of use, compared to 12 hrs with NiMHD
on a single charge.

At $2.50 a pair for the Energizers, the NiMHD batteries have a payback of just
8 weeks, at least for me.  Plus, you avoid breaking the battery compartment
door.


Michael Stocker
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:40:15 -0400
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Can I get a copy.



-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Word Perfect


>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. wrote:
>
>> What is a sceen extender?
>
> An add on program to change the fonts and show bold underline and italic
>on the screen.
>
>
>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
>PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
>Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:40:31 EDT
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In a message dated 98-06-26 00:17:59 EDT, you write:
>
>  James Gill wrote:
>
>  > I am making plans to attend COMDEX in Las Vegas this year. I am
>  > wondering if there will be anything there of specific interest for HP200
>  > users. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>  >
Maybe my VEGAS.PDB can help you, if not, why not?
See palmtop.net db section, I think.

yor pal al.....................

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In a message dated 98-06-28 08:12:07 EDT, you write:
>  Hi :-)
>  I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad 1640 in conjunction with
>  dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of 123 on the 200LX ?
>  Cheers,   Ross
>
 'cause using 123  I don't use up no space to store FW which is hu-mungus
  since 123 and database and memo (text writer)  is already there in ROM.

  Why would you want to use FW and take up a couple 300,000 KB of space
   that you could use for games and data?

   yor pal al..............

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:29:48 EDT
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In a message dated 98-06-28 08:28:37 EDT, you write:
>  I tried out those new Energizer high capacity alkaline batteries on a trip.
>  A pair of these batteries provided 17 hrs of use, compared to 12 hrs with
> NiMHD  on a single charge.
>
>  At $2.50 a pair for the Energizers, the NiMHD batteries have a payback of
> just  8 weeks, at least for me.  Plus, you avoid breaking the battery
compart-
> ment door.
>
 I got 30+ hours consistantly over a month from a pair of Walgreen
 plain rap alkaline batts.    Wuz i counting rong?   They are 50 cents each.

 I change NMh a few times a week (three sets) now and have been using
 them since March.   They're surpose to last for 2000+ charges.  Where
did I go rong on the numbers?

           yor pal al....................

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   >I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad 1640 in
   >conjunction with dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of
   >123 on the 200LX ?
Message-Id: <19980628133743.TEKU8258@Ý12.64.8.196¨>
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:37:43 +0000

I'm a big FW-3 user and have that version loaded on my LX (only cuz I
can't find a cheap copy of FW-4). FW is a spreadsheet to some, but it's
mostly a wordprocessor to me. Even then, it lacks the WYSIWYG features
you'd expect from more modern word-processors (even lacks page preview)
and I admit I don't use it a lot on the LX.

The spreadsheet is actually easier to use for many people than 123. Again
it lacks many power features such as DataTable and its graphs are close
to awful. You can however, link spreadsheets (and to databases).

To me, the power of FW comes from the way it lets me combine a mixture
of wordprocessing, spreadsheet and database files into an organized
collection. Organization is its strong suit, just as data-entry and
data-query was the suits for Agenda and InfoSelect (or so it sounded).

When I work on a project, I use spreadsheets to track totals and compute
forecasts. I also generate notes and memos on various aspects of the
project or on the spreadsheets themselves. A non-FW system would have
me throwing these into a directory where they'll be ordered in a more
or less random fashion and with 12 char filenames.

FW lets me create a single file containing all those pieces and organized
as items in an outline. In fact, the outliner lets me organize how
I want to approach a problem (much as any traditional outliner), but
where it differs is that in the end, the documents are incorporated
into the outline, sorta like adding substance to the form.

Sorry this rambled, but like Agenda and InfoSelect, FW has a unique
strength that seems greater than the sum of its parts and is not
always easy to describe.

And I have no real idea of how FW-5 differs from FW-3.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:33:27 -0700
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Two questions:

1. Anybody ever try a Cirrus Logic PCMCIA faxmodem on thier HPLX? Also (in case
anyone hasn't) what happens if you use a modem (with AC Adaptor) that takes too
much current? Any memory loss or damage to the HPLX? My wife and I are going to
be apart this summer while in the process of moving and I was going to use this
extra modem I have along with my backup HP-100 to provide connectivity. I
figure I might end up losing my HP-100, but I won't get as much flak about
"toys!"

2. (Off HPLX topic) I don't subscribe to any other list to ask this question
to, so I'll give it a shot here. I recently purchase a used Dell Latitude 4100
Laptop, which has been great for accessing and backing up my flashdisk, among
other things. I ran SPEEDISK.EXE on it and foud I have an 8MB contiguous file
named "386spart.par". My guess is that "part" stands for partiiton, but I have
no idea what this file is for or what program(s) use it. I still have plenty of
hard disk space availabe, so I am not ready to trash it, but I am curious as to
what it is. Since this is probably not of interest to the generic HPLX
community, please respond to me directly.

Thanks for any info you might have.
Brian

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:12:21 +10
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Right is right
Could you list the file you have in your framework directory?
did you delete many?
Also, Is some one have a french dictionary for FW3?
regards
Alain

> To me, the power of FW comes from the way it lets me combine a mixture of
> wordprocessing, spreadsheet and database files into an organized
> collection.
...
>FW lets me create a single file containing all those pieces and organized
>as items in an outline. In fact, the outliner lets me organize how I want
>to approach a problem (much as any traditional outliner), but where it
>differs is that in the end, the documents are incorporated into the
>outline, sorta like adding substance to the form.

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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>Hi :-)

>I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad 1640 in
>conjunction with
>dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of 123 on the
>200LX ?

>Cheers
>Ross

I saw on the Framework web site there was a version for the
200LX. There wasn't any information on the web site so I
wanted to see if anyone was using it. They've integrated
a lot of stuff into it and I wanted to see if the stuff is
worth it.8¬0

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Subject:      "386spart.par".

Its a swap file for windows for either win 3.1 or 95.
Don't remember which.

It can be deleted if you no longer use windows.

Yor pal al .....................

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\doc\web\98\06\stackhp.txt

Hi all, I tried using these instructions on my HP200LX to run
stacker on it. Basically, the HP200 couldn't find any valid
drives at all. I have the antec PCMCIA parallel card reader which
works great, and I used it to remove the stacker 4.0 files. I
assume that I could install stacker on Win95 to read the stacked
drive, but I don't know about NT.

I've found that there's no way to fool the install program that
the A: drive is a floppy, is there anybody else who's had luck with
installing Stacker? I'm using a eiger 30 MB flashcard, and it's
awesome.


From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@earthlink.net>
Date:         1998/02/02
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On Sun, 01 Feb 98 22:39:38, you wrote:

> Hi,
> I have Stacker 4.0 for DOS/OS2 and wanted to know if I can install the
> DOS portion on my hp200lx.  What stacker files are absolutely needed for
> stacker to work on the hp200lx?  There are so many files on the 3
diskettes,

> I'm not sure which ones I need

Hi Ray,

Heres the information that you seek.

Installing Stacker on the HP 100 & 200LX

1- Start with a freshly formatted (or defragmented) card.

2- Include the following in your config.sys file:

device=a:\stacker.com
files=30
buffers=6 (you may use 15,5)
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos

(Any device drivers needed to read drive A must be loaded before loading
the stacker device driver).

3- Create a file named 'stacker.ini' in the root dir of the drive you will
be compressing and type the following:

/P=10
/EMS (only for those with EMS available on their 200LX)
/AUTO
A:\STACVOL.DSK,RP

(Save this as an ascii file with carriage returns following each line). The
P=10 tunes Stacker for maximum compression, ie: 'MAXSPACE'. The EMS switch
saves about 35K of conventional mem.

4- Copy only these files to the 200LX:

stacker.com
create.com
screxec.exe
screxec2.exe (Total: 217,079 bytes)

(These may be placed on any drive or dir but the full path will be needed
to execute them. You may remove the last 3 after rebooting and successful
completion).

5- Terminate Appmgr and type Ýdrive¨Ýpath¨ create a: /s=0 /r=2.5

This will create a hidden stacvol.dsk on drive A using all the available
space with a comp ratio calculated at 2.5:1.

6- Reboot and you're finished. Now, wasn't this *easy* <g>.

Sidebar: Stacker 3 includes a file called stackpalm.exe which makes light
work of the above and even edits config.sys for you (of course version 3
uses no ini file).



Regards,

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Subject:      Shrink wrapped IBM-DOS 3.30

Hi, just found a still-shrink-wrapped pristine IBM PC-DOS 3.30,
it's got manuals, the linen box and binder, 3.5 and 5.25" disks.
This has the original GWBASIC that wasn't shipped with the HP200
that makes it do what the original HP9830, HP's first BASIC based
desktop computer.

Entertaining offers above $10 plus $5 ship, I found it at
the salvation army for $3.00 if you think you can do that well,
there's something to try to beat.


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Subject:      SOFTPLOT - HP BASIC-STYLE PLOTTER, GRAPHIC SUPPORT PACKAGE

Hi All, way back in the 1980s ,I devised something called
softplot/bgl for gwbasic, it provided support for "AGL",
HP standard 2D scaled device independent graphics for the
screen and plotters like the HP7470. It also has a simple
3D system, and a hidden-line plotting module for surface functions.

These commands were used on most HP basic-based computers like
the HP85, HP9800 series, and HP2647 programmable terminals.
For whatever reason, this command set never caught on outside
of the HP world.

You can still get HP plotters for $400 or so, I have an extra
one.

I haven't had time yet
to dust it off, but I'm wondering how much interest there is
in it, I could make it available as free ware. Otherwise I'll
probably just let it sit around for a few more years.

To plot sin(x) / X for example, the program would simply
be

10 :newplot
20 :scale -PI,PI,-1.0,1.0
30 for x = -PI to PI step PI/20
40 :plot x, sin(x)
50 next x
60 endplot

Beats the heck out of using native LINETO or HPGL with
COM port statements.

Sound interesting?


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MS Works seems to be sold, but
I can trade any software in the list
for your Pascal 3.1 or I can buy it.
Please let me know.

Thank you,
Yujin



I have turbo pascal 3.1.  I am interested in a trade.

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Ah!
That brings back memories! I have owned most of the nice HP products over
the years, beginning with their first calculator. I fondly remember trying
to reverse engineer the HP-85 operating system with a friend by
dissasembling the ROMS with the assembler package! The floor of a warehouse
was littered with computer paper and we traced variables for days!
One of the truly great HP products, and one that gave credence to the Basic
language. I always wondered why "those other people" (mainly apple users)
would put up with such arcane hardware end software. Heck, if I tired of
writing my own software I could even run Visicalc from my tapedrive!

Given i had the right money, I would love to invite the guys responsible
for HP Basic, their wonderful plotters, the HP-85, the 41C and the 95 to a
brainstorming session about the future of computing. Seems to me we've lost
the way somewhere.
The ingeniuity of those products are hard to beat. I remember doing
assembler programing on the 41C with undocumented op-codes, and getting
more than a thrill from doing it - I also got some serious work done!

Nowadays you see packages where math functions are undocumented because the
majority of users don't use them, and have you ever tried plotting a
sin(x)/x using VB for applications? Tons of code, and hours debugging event
driven dialogue boxes when all you want to do is something basic that you
used to be able to do with a few well thought out keystrokes. On a HP
product that is.

As HP has gone into bed with Microsoft, we see the sign of intelligent
thought dissapearing from HP products, driven out by mindless
consumerfocused, marketingdriven design.

I realize I am turning into an anacronism, but nowadays if I express a
novel idea, I like to use the blackboard! I suppose I am evolving backwards
into the greek philosopher myth where the medium of communication was
circles drawn in the sand!

Anyway, I really appreciate s/w like softplot, and wish you every success
if you decide to market it for a HP200 environment with its Deskjet
printers!
Cheers
Paul

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> Fra: Arthur Hu <arthurhu@HALCYON.COM>
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: SOFTPLOT - HP BASIC-STYLE PLOTTER, GRAPHIC SUPPORT PACKAGE
> Dato: 28. juni 1998 16:58
>
> Hi All, way back in the 1980s ,I devised something called
> softplot/bgl for gwbasic, it provided support for "AGL",
> HP standard 2D scaled device independent graphics for the
> screen and plotters like the HP7470. It also has a simple
> 3D system, and a hidden-line plotting module for surface functions.
>
> These commands were used on most HP basic-based computers like
> the HP85, HP9800 series, and HP2647 programmable terminals.
> For whatever reason, this command set never caught on outside
> of the HP world.
....
> To plot sin(x) / X for example, the program would simply
> be
>
> 10 :newplot
> 20 :scale -PI,PI,-1.0,1.0
> 30 for x = -PI to PI step PI/20
> 40 :plot x, sin(x)
> 50 next x
> 60 endplot
>
> Beats the heck out of using native LINETO or HPGL with
> COM port statements.

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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:06:13 -0700, Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM> =
wrote:

> > What is a sceen extender?
>
>  An add on program to change the fonts and show bold underline and =
italic
> on the screen.

Hi Patrick,

Confirming that the screen extender is a WP add-on that wil show bold,
underline and italic right on the screen.



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Hello,

has anybody evaluated or worked with 'pjt20012.lzh' - which is a Japanese =
proj mgmt application (EXM) to be found at

www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine//hp/pjt20012.lzh  ??

All menues are in English, but help and docu is in Japanese.

It dates from about March 97 - does anybody know about what happened =
since then?

I've tried it for some hours - looks very promising.
And it's free (according to what I read).

Anybody interested in setting up a documentation in English?

So long,
 Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:45:06 -0700
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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:27:16 +0200, Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@=
T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:


> Anybody interested in setting up a documentation in English?

Hi  Hermann,

The English documents can be found on the SUPER Site.



Regards,

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I think I can beat that: I got my 10 MB HP flashdisk for $15!  How's
that? :-)
Richard Smith

Arthur Hu wrote:

> Hi, just found a still-shrink-wrapped pristine IBM PC-DOS 3.30,
> it's got manuals, the linen box and binder, 3.5 and 5.25" disks.
> This has the original GWBASIC that wasn't shipped with the HP200
> that makes it do what the original HP9830, HP's first BASIC based
> desktop computer.
>
> Entertaining offers above $10 plus $5 ship, I found it at
> the salvation army for $3.00 if you think you can do that well,
> there's something to try to beat.
>
> arthur Hu Kirkland WA "Fairness In Diversity"
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I'm looking for the French and Spanish language modules for WordPerfect
5.1  i havwe licenses, just no disks.  Can anybody help?

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Works is all I was interested in.  Thanks.
Scott

At 01:53 PM 6/28/98 -0400, you wrote:
>MS Works seems to be sold, but
>I can trade any software in the list
>for your Pascal 3.1 or I can buy it.
>Please let me know.
>
>Thank you,
>Yujin
>
>
>
>I have turbo pascal 3.1.  I am interested in a trade.
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Is there any way to make the count down timer turn the 200lx on and
beep when the timer goes off?  Right now it just pops up a window...
But if the machine isn't on, or if you're not paying attention to it at
the time - there's no way to tell that it went off.  I've been just using
the alarm as an interim solution...

Thanks!
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orn@cs.wisc.edu

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Subject:      cheep 10MB flashcards

Richard
I think I can beat that: I got my 10 MB HP flashdisk for $15!
How's that? :-)
Richard Smith

When and where?
anymore available, I'll even take latger ones.

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Subject:      Enhancements

all

>From time to time, the members of this list speculate on what
>applications they would like to see developed for the 200LX
>...and their wishes are often fulfilled by the many excellent
>programmers we have among us!

It would be nice if someone would do some sys maint and enhance
the system we have first, but yes, new aps are much appriciated.
The more aps, the more useful, the more useful, the more users,
the more users, the more buyers, the more buyers, the more venders,
the more vendors....... Maybe a hardware upgrade to a backlit 386.

....but right now, right here,
I still cannot get CAPITALS to work.  Does it work and where?
without holding down the shift key.  I have RTFM.
Does anyone else have a problem with CAPITALS not working?

I also can't copy a group of records from one file to another.
I do a lot of DB (85 DBs) work, much more than most LXer's.
So maybe the problems are not apparent to others.

Comments are most welcome, and do have a great weekend,
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:36:45 -0700
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              "K.Deutscher" <katd@MCI2000.COM>
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Information available about "Accessing the Internet via email:

To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu (for US, Canada & South America)
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On Tue. 23 Jun 1998, Tim S. wrote:

 > Where would I find out about different types of email services
 > (if they exist) where you can send them specificly formatted
 > question and get an automated email reply answer?

--
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:51:20 -0500
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This past week someone on the list said that they were usuing the LX serial
cable along with the proper adapter with the BayPac modem. I can not get
mine to work using the original length cable, but it does work with a
shorter cable that I made myself. I was just curious if anyone else is able
to use the full length cable with the BayPac modem?

73
Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:09:35 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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and we can also give one to the shark whitch have eaten a scuba diver!
Or a "never losl" could be beter.
regards
Alain
:)
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:21:48 -0400
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Hello John,

I will send it to you by priority mail on Monday,
and  you can send me your check for $5.00 after
you get it and see if it is OK.

Thank you,
Yujin

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>3. GW-Basic Ver. 3.20
>    -3.5" disk only.

5 bucks sounds good. Will you ship it to me COD? If you
will my address is:

John Musielewicz
1038 19th Ave SE
MPLS, MN 55414

USPS (cheapest) is fine.
Otherwise send me your address.

John

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:25:33 -0400
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I am sorry everybody, I didn't mean to send
it to the whole mailing list. I will
use private mail nex time. I apologize.

Yujin

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> Hello John,
>
> I will send it to you by priority mail on Monday,
> and  you can send me your check for $5.00 after
> you get it and see if it is OK.
>
> Thank you,
> Yujin
>
> ----------
> Yujin Nagasawa
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
> E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>             QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
> ----------
>
> >3. GW-Basic Ver. 3.20
> >    -3.5" disk only.
>
> 5 bucks sounds good. Will you ship it to me COD? If you
> will my address is:
>
> John Musielewicz
> 1038 19th Ave SE
> MPLS, MN 55414
>
> USPS (cheapest) is fine.
> Otherwise send me your address.
>
> John
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:44:29 GMT
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> These commands were used on most HP basic-based computers like
> the HP85, HP9800 series, and HP2647 programmable terminals.
> For whatever reason, this command set never caught on outside
> of the HP world.

I have two HP85s in my closet, one of them is loaded with a lot of the
add-on roms, memory and interfaces (but not HPIB). Unfortunately
neither is able to reliably read and write to tape any more - I think
the rubber compnents of the drive system have deteriorated too much.
> You can still get HP plotters for $400 or so, I have an extra >
one.

I have two of these in my closet as well both HPIB interface so have
not connected them to anything yet.

> I haven't had time yet
> to dust it off, but I'm wondering how much interest there is
> in it, I could make it available as free ware. Otherwise I'll
> probably just let it sit around for a few more years.
>
> To plot sin(x) / X for example, the program would simply
> be
>
> 10 :newplot
> 20 :scale -PI,PI,-1.0,1.0
> 30 for x =3D -PI to PI step PI/20
> 40 :plot x, sin(x)
> 50 next x
> 60 endplot

Sounds interesting to me. I liked the plotting capabilities in the
HP85 - didn't get in the way of getting the job done. I presume the
routines you are offering will plot to the screen of a 200LX or a file
as well as to a plotter.

GaryS

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:49:00 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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I used to work at a retail computer store that would take trade-ins and
such.  One day this guy came in with it and my boss said he didn't want
it.  I told the guy that I would take it and asked him how much he wanted
for it.  He had the flashdisk and an Apps disk for an HP Omnibook
600(?)and he said he just wanted to get rid of them, so I bought both for
$30.  So, since I don't use the Apps disk, I guess I really got the
flashdisk for $30. But, I guess it was a one-time only deal -- sorry!

However, if anybody wants the Apps disk (HP Model F1030A), you can have
it for the $15 plus the price of shipping and for return copies of the
software on it. (On CD or something.)  It has (I don't know which
versions, if anyone can tell me, that would be helpful.) MSDOS, Windows,
Word, Excel, Mouse Drivers, Flash File System, Laplink Remote Access,
etc.

Otherwise, if anyone can tell me another way to make it work, then that
would be good, too.  I tried it in the 200LX and in other computers with
PC Card slots, but I've never been able to get it to work.  I've also
never been able to try it on an Omnibook, so I would be willing to borrow
somebody's Omnibook, too. :-)

Regards,
Richard

al chin wrote:

> Richard
> I think I can beat that: I got my 10 MB HP flashdisk for $15!
> How's that? :-)
> Richard Smith
>
> When and where?
> anymore available, I'll even take latger ones.
>
> Yor pal al .....................
>
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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:53:30 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. wrote:

> Can I get a copy.
> >> What is a sceen extender?
> >
> > An add on program to change the fonts and show bold underline and italic
> >on the screen.

Sorry, but it was a commerical product of Stairways softway that was sold
as an addon to WP5 and WP5.1

It is included with the regular version of WP51+. Thus it is still for
sale from Coral.

It runs as a TSR and seems to confict with Maxdos

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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:51:20 -0500, you wrote:

>This past week someone on the list said that they were usuing the LX =
serial
>cable along with the proper adapter with the BayPac modem. I can not get
>mine to work using the original length cable, but it does work with a
>shorter cable that I made myself. I was just curious if anyone else is =
able
>to use the full length cable with the BayPac modem?
>
>73
>Jeff

Did you remember the cable for the LX was made to work to another =
computer.
not into a modem type device like your BayPack Modem...
You need a Null Modem to make it work..
73   Dean   W5GXL

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:07:10 -0400
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Hello everybody,

Does any one have the Word Perfect for sale?
If so, I am willing to buy it. It sounds good software.

Thank you,
Yujin

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:13:39 GMT
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> I still cannot get CAPITALS to work.  Does it work and where?

Everywhere TO THE BEST OF my knowledge (see)

> without holding down the shift key.  I have RTFM.
> Does anyone else have a problem with CAPITALS not working?

Just use  Shift + 0 to turn caps on permanently. Are you being
inflicted by a Buddyism perhaps?

> I also can't copy a group of records from one file to another.
> I do a lot of DB (85 DBs) work, much more than most LXer's.

That is about the number of files I have in my database directory (not
all of them are gdb format). I thought that you could only paste
between databases of the same format - is this the problem? I have
two databases that are the same format - one called `todo' and another
called `done'. Normally I use Extract and Merge to transfer data from
one to the other but I just tried marking and copying three records -
only the last record marked was copied over. Copy seems to only work
on the record that is highlighted - not on the records that are
marked. This can also be tested by marking a group of records, copying
them and pasting into memo - only the highlighted record is
transfered. Is this the way you are selecting a group of records for
transfer?

GaryS

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:29:24 -0500
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Comments: To: deanl@BIGFOOT.COM

On 06-28 09:00pm, the following was written:

> Did you remember the cable for the LX was made to work to another computer
> not into a modem type device like your BayPack Modem...
> You need a Null Modem to make it work..
> 73   Dean   W5GXL

Arrrgh..... I can't believe I didn't think of that! How is it that I'm smart
enough to pass a ham exam, but dumb enough to not think of the simple things
<grin>.

73
Jeff


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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:52:08 -0500
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Subject:      Another 200LX Adventure

While serving the public as a deputy sheriff my 200LX has been through a
lot, including high speed chases even a F5 tornado, but this weekend it has
served me in a whole new aspect. I thought you folks might be interested in
hereing about it.

Last Thursday, a Sheriff and deputy were transporting 2 felons to a high
securtity prison in Mississippi. While enroute the 2 thugs over powered the
lawmen, tied them up and left them in a barn. They the travelled into
Alabama, upon entering the Tuscaloosa city limits the were stopped by a
Tuscaloosa PD officer whom they shot and then fled the scene. They were
still in the Jones County, MS Sheriff's Dept Car which they dumped in
Tuscaloosa. A massive manhunt was undertaken.

Late Thursday night I was able to get jpegs of the two suspects and
installed them to my 200LX along with all their physical data. I keep my
200LX on the dash of my patrol car with velcro so while using LXPIC I was
able to display their ugly faces on demand. I spent all day Friday driving
the interstate system constantly looking between the 200LX and other
driver's faces. Unfortunately neither I, or any other members of the
numerous agencies were able to locate the suspects on Friday.

Late Saturday night, 11:00PM local time, a Moody, AL policeman stopped a car
for a traffic violation (there's no such thing as a 'routine' stop), the car
contained the two suspects, they shot and killed him. He was 29 years old
and had a wife and infant child. The suspects fled the area on foot. One of
the bastards was caught today, but one is still on the loose. The City of
Moody, 15 miles east of Birmingham, is totally shut down and surrounded, no
one comes in or out.

I will be back out in the area tomorrow and yes, my 200LX will be with me,
only this time I only have to display the picture of one of the subjects.

If you live east of Alabama, like Georgia or maybe even the Carolinas, I
suggest you get a newspaper and find out what this guy looks like.... he's
one mean sucker!

I knew that 200LX's were used at the Oklahoma City bombing and now mine has
served me for this task... it's amazing how versatile and useful our little
machines can be!

73 and stay safe,
Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:19:41 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: LX Packet Question
Comments: cc: jeffj@SCOTT.NET

   >> Did you remember the cable for the LX was made to work to another
   >>computer  not into a modem type device like your BayPack Modem...
   >> You need a Null Modem to make it work..
   >> 73   Dean   W5GXL
Message-Id: <19980629042019.HZRN27085@Ý12.64.37.248¨>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:20:19 +0000

   >Arrrgh..... I can't believe I didn't think of that! How is it that
   >I'm smart enough to pass a ham exam, but dumb enough to not think
   >of the simple things <grin>.

Maybe cuz you're thinking THUGS not PLUGS.

Good luck on both counts from all of us.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:20:54 -0700
Reply-To:     "Tim S." <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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From:         "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
Subject:      Help setting up 700lx

I just got a 700lx and I'm transferring my software from my 200lx.
Everything has gone fine except for a couple of things.

1.  Buddy is working fine except when in filer.  Double entering on a DOC
file brings me into the fax program.  Is there a fix for this?  AcCIS 4.0
does the same when composing a message.

2.  I cannot get Zoom to load.  Moreexm seems to be loading fine.  I have
the moreexm.ini file in the c:\_dat.  The file contains one line.
a:\misc\zoom\zoom.exm,8500,1,Zoom

Of course the file is located there.  And it worked fine on my 200lx.

3.  This is 700lx specific:  I'm trying to get the fax software to fax my
logo.  My logo.pcx file is a 1-bit black and white pcx file.  I use it also
with qfax and it works fine.  I cannot get it to work with the built in fax
app.  The manual says to add this line to the first part of the fax but I
cannot make it work.

&pcx:c:\logo.pcx

The result is just faxing that line as though it were text.  And yes my
logo.pcx file is located at c:\.

Any help is appreciated.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:27:34 -0400
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Hello everybody,

     > 1. MS-DOS Ver. 3.3
     >      -3.5" disks, box, manual, registration card.
---$8 + shipping.


     > 2. MS-Windows/286
     >     -3.5" disks, box, manuals.
---$15 + shipping


     > 3. GW-Basic Ver. 3.20
     >     -3.5" disk only.
---SOLD


     > 4. MS Works Ver. 3.0 (for DOS)
     >     -3.5" disks and manual.
---SOLD


     > 5. HP Palmtop Paper Subscriber PowerDisk
     >     -5 disks (1993,  Fall 1994- Summer 1995, Fall 1995- Summer 1996,
     >       1996/1997, 1998.)
---$10 + shipping.


Thank you,
Yujin

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Yujin Nagasawa
State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
          QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Hi Jeff!

>I can not get
>mine to work using the original length cable, but it does work with a
>shorter cable that I made myself. I was just curious if anyone else is able
>to use the full length cable with the BayPac modem?


It works fine for me! BayPac-type modem (in Germany PC-COM) with original
length cable, null modem adapter.


73s

Andreas, DC3AFA

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Date:         Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:36:57 -0600
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Go get 'em, Jeff. And God be with you and your colleagues -- and your 200LX!
- Richard

Jeff Johns wrote:

> While serving the public as a deputy sheriff my 200LX has been through a
> lot, including high speed chases even a F5 tornado, but this weekend it has
> served me in a whole new aspect. I thought you folks might be interested in
> hereing about it.
>
> Last Thursday, a Sheriff and deputy were transporting 2 felons to a high
> securtity prison in Mississippi. While enroute the 2 thugs over powered the
> lawmen, tied them up and left them in a barn. They the travelled into
> Alabama, upon entering the Tuscaloosa city limits the were stopped by a
> Tuscaloosa PD officer whom they shot and then fled the scene. They were
> still in the Jones County, MS Sheriff's Dept Car which they dumped in
> Tuscaloosa. A massive manhunt was undertaken.
>
> Late Thursday night I was able to get jpegs of the two suspects and
> installed them to my 200LX along with all their physical data. I keep my
> 200LX on the dash of my patrol car with velcro so while using LXPIC I was
> able to display their ugly faces on demand. I spent all day Friday driving
> the interstate system constantly looking between the 200LX and other
> driver's faces. Unfortunately neither I, or any other members of the
> numerous agencies were able to locate the suspects on Friday.
>
> Late Saturday night, 11:00PM local time, a Moody, AL policeman stopped a car
> for a traffic violation (there's no such thing as a 'routine' stop), the car
> contained the two suspects, they shot and killed him. He was 29 years old
> and had a wife and infant child. The suspects fled the area on foot. One of
> the bastards was caught today, but one is still on the loose. The City of
> Moody, 15 miles east of Birmingham, is totally shut down and surrounded, no
> one comes in or out.
>
> I will be back out in the area tomorrow and yes, my 200LX will be with me,
> only this time I only have to display the picture of one of the subjects.
>
> If you live east of Alabama, like Georgia or maybe even the Carolinas, I
> suggest you get a newspaper and find out what this guy looks like.... he's
> one mean sucker!
>
> I knew that 200LX's were used at the Oklahoma City bombing and now mine has
> served me for this task... it's amazing how versatile and useful our little
> machines can be!
>
> 73 and stay safe,
> Jeff
>
>     *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>     |Jeff Johns  KF4KGQ  Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>     |Email: jeffj@scott.net   Urgent AlphaPager Email: pagejeff@scott.net|
>     |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
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>>> Al Chin <Hobchi=40AOL.COM> 27.06.98 17.20 >>>
Morning Phil

>>  set to 9v (instead of the usual 12V). Lo and behold, the batteries =
still
>> appear to be charging (I haven=27t had a chance to download a program =
to test

>Question is:
>How do one change charging current from 12V to 9V (using HP charging =
unit)?

Answer is that I=27m not using the HP unit - a cheap and nasty wall mount =
thing that (according to the sales bumf) will supply 500mA and has =
voltages between 3 and 12V. I guess you can buy it (or something similar) =
in the states but I got it from Conrad in Germany.

As soon as my batteries have run dow (takes a while - it=27s no WinCE :)) =
I=27ll be running some charging tests with a lab PSU, BattLX and a =
multimeter. Stay tuned.

take care

Phil

Thanks
yor pal al......................

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>>> Michael Stocker <mdstockr=40NEO.LRUN.COM> 28.06.98 14.28 >>>


>At =242.50 a pair for the Energizers, the NiMHD batteries have a payback =
of just
>8 weeks, at least for me.  Plus, you avoid breaking the battery compartmen=
t
>door.

and you do a little for the environment=21=21=21

Phil
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>>> Al Chin <Hobchi=40AOL.COM> 28.06.98 15.29 >>>
>>  I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad 1640 in conjunction =
with
>>  dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of 123 on the 200LX ?
>>  Cheers,   Ross
>>
> =27cause using 123  I don=27t use up no space to store FW which is =
hu-mungus
 > since 123 and database and memo (text writer)  is already there in ROM.

 > Why would you want to use FW and take up a couple 300,000 KB of space
  > that you could use for games and data?

All well and good Al, I use the built-ins a lot too. I am however really =
at the end of the database=27s usability for me - I need relational=21=21 =
Anybody got any good ideas (it=27ll probably have to be well programmable, =
small - I=27ve got a lot of data - and fast). I=27ve tried Clipper 5.3 and =
it produces HUMUNGUS code (450k) that runs so slowly that you see the =
fields being filled out (and there were only three of them=21)

Phil
=20

  yor pal al..............

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On 06-28 09:52pm, was written-}

# I knew that 200LX's were used at the Oklahoma City bombing and now mine has
# served me for this task... it's amazing how versatile and useful our little
# machines can be!

# Jeff
#


Jeff,

I was not aware of the use of 200LX's in Oklahoma City.  Would you be
so kind as to expand on that?

This kind of thing convinces me that all law enforment people should
have a 200 with a datbase in the "weak hand holster" for those times
when info is not available from the dispatcher.

Regards,
mark beutler                                     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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These items still available.  Best offer takes.

 1)  Lotus CC:mail 2.21, 3-1/2 disks, manuals (I think complete)

 2)  National Instruments PCIIA IEEE-488 controller. (8 bit isa card)
     Sells for $395 new.

 3)  Fluke 8060A Multimeter.  This is still their best handheld.
     Sells for $375 new.  I may have the manual,

 4)  Valhalla Scientific 2101A "Digital Power Analyzer"  Have manual.
     Sold for $1000 new.

 5)  Borland Turbo C++ 3.0, 3-1/2 disks. (will not work on HP200)


 Again, best offer takes.  If interested, PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST.

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Thanks for the tips re the hidden DIR switches to look for hidden files =
however this is not the answer. I suspect that one of the DRAMS has =
failed. I downloaded David Sargeants palmtop adventure for tips on =
getting into the case to see if there were any mechanical failures but =
all the solder joints etc appeared to be ok. Inspired by the fact that I =
did not break anything doing this I would like to investigate whether =
the rams have indeed failed. Does anyone know the pin out and signal =
descriptions for the internal memory connector?. I could reverse =
engineer the memory daughter board I have but this would take much =
longer.

If I find out anything interesting I will post it.

TIA

Ralph Thomson

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:34:01 -0500
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              Jun 28, 98 08:52:15 pm
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> I realize I am turning into an anacronism, but nowadays if I express a
> novel idea, I like to use the blackboard! I suppose I am evolving backwards

Paul:

I recently moved into a new office, and had to fuss real loudly to get a
blackboard installed instead of the newer white board.  I just love to
use real chalk - so much better than those squeaky, stinky markers and
a board that doesn't completely erase without even smellier solvents...

-Chris


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Be safe yourself, Jeff...  it sounds like you're going to need it.  Go get
him!
God Bless,
        James



>While serving the public as a deputy sheriff my 200LX has been through a
>lot, including high speed chases even a F5 tornado, but this weekend it has
>served me in a whole new aspect. I thought you folks might be interested in
>hereing about it.
>
>Last Thursday, a Sheriff and deputy were transporting 2 felons to a high
>securtity prison in Mississippi. While enroute the 2 thugs over powered the
>lawmen, tied them up and left them in a barn. They the travelled into
>Alabama, upon entering the Tuscaloosa city limits the were stopped by a
>Tuscaloosa PD officer whom they shot and then fled the scene. They were
>still in the Jones County, MS Sheriff's Dept Car which they dumped in
>Tuscaloosa. A massive manhunt was undertaken.
>
>Late Thursday night I was able to get jpegs of the two suspects and
>installed them to my 200LX along with all their physical data. I keep my
>200LX on the dash of my patrol car with velcro so while using LXPIC I was
>able to display their ugly faces on demand. I spent all day Friday driving
>the interstate system constantly looking between the 200LX and other
>driver's faces. Unfortunately neither I, or any other members of the
>numerous agencies were able to locate the suspects on Friday.
>
>Late Saturday night, 11:00PM local time, a Moody, AL policeman stopped a car
>for a traffic violation (there's no such thing as a 'routine' stop), the car
>contained the two suspects, they shot and killed him. He was 29 years old
>and had a wife and infant child. The suspects fled the area on foot. One of
>the bastards was caught today, but one is still on the loose. The City of
>Moody, 15 miles east of Birmingham, is totally shut down and surrounded, no
>one comes in or out.
>
>I will be back out in the area tomorrow and yes, my 200LX will be with me,
>only this time I only have to display the picture of one of the subjects.
>
>If you live east of Alabama, like Georgia or maybe even the Carolinas, I
>suggest you get a newspaper and find out what this guy looks like.... he's
>one mean sucker!
>
>I knew that 200LX's were used at the Oklahoma City bombing and now mine has
>served me for this task... it's amazing how versatile and useful our little
>machines can be!
>
>73 and stay safe,
>Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:48:30 -0400
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I use Foxpro 2.0 and find it to be pretty useful on a 2x speed with 40MB
flash card. It's kind of slow to load but plenty powerful. Program
execution speed is fair to lousy. It does run faster with EMS memory and
would probably run great on Mack special 32MB machine. You may also want
to look at DataPerfect. I hear it's free and fast and may fulfill your
needs. It doesn't have a programming language but supports MACRO type
menu key automation.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Phil WHORTON
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                >>> Al Chin <Hobchi@AOL.COM> 28.06.98 15.29 >>>
                >>  I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad
1640 in conjunction with
                >>  dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of 123
on the 200LX ?
                >>  Cheers,   Ross
                >>
                > 'cause using 123  I don't use up no space to store FW
which is hu-mungus
                 > since 123 and database and memo (text writer)  is
already there in ROM.

                 > Why would you want to use FW and take up a couple
300,000 KB of space
                  > that you could use for games and data?

                All well and good Al, I use the built-ins a lot too. I
am however really at the end of the database's usability for me - I need
relational!! Anybody got any good ideas (it'll probably have to be well
programmable, small - I've got a lot of data - and fast). I've tried
Clipper 5.3 and it produces HUMUNGUS code (450k) that runs so slowly
that you see the fields being filled out (and there were only three of
them!)

                Phil


                  yor pal al..............

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:55:20 -0400
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Is there a way to adjust the information in each line when looking at t=
he list
of items
in a newsgroup?

I download the Headers of all new newsgroup items.  I then go through t=
hem
trying to decide which of them I want to download.  To make this decisi=
on I
mainly
using the Subject and the number of lines (I don't want to download som=
ething
too
big).  I don't particularly pay attention to the sender of the item.

The problem is the line format devotes 33 columns to the sender info, n=
one to
the number of lines, and 43 to the Subject.  The Subject can be longer =
than this
so it often cut off.  While I can select each item to see the number of=
 lines
that is
a bit of a nuisance if I have a lot of items to review.

Can I adjust the format of these lines so I could see the number of lin=
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more of the Subject without having to open the header item?

Maybe a format like:
H?|nnnn|Subject to end of screen line

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:12:23 -0500
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              98 10:55:20 am
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> Maybe a format like:
> H?|nnnn|Subject to end of screen line

Russ:

Good idea.  I just now realized that the program operates in medium
screen mode (64 cols?).  My $0.02 suggestion is to offer an 80-col
display...

-Chris


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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:27:15 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Comments: To: Arthur Hu <arthurhu@HALCYON.COM>

$20 PLUS SHIPPING


Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
1400 West Park Street
Urbana, IL   61801
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Sunday, June 28, 1998 11:18 AM
Subject: Shrink wrapped IBM-DOS 3.30


>Hi, just found a still-shrink-wrapped pristine IBM PC-DOS 3.30,
>it's got manuals, the linen box and binder, 3.5 and 5.25" disks.
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:48:00 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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I just sent you the software
by priority mail. Please let me
know when you get it.

Thank you,
Yujin

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State University of New York at Stony Brook

E-mail: ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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>3. GW-Basic Ver. 3.20
>    -3.5" disk only.

5 bucks sounds good. Will you ship it to me COD? If you
will my address is:

John Musielewicz
1038 19th Ave SE
MPLS, MN 55414

USPS (cheapest) is fine.
Otherwise send me your address.

John

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:47:36 -0400
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Hi All:

     How do you format a CF for use in the 100/200LX? Is it as simple
as the DOS FORMAT command? Or is it more complex? Does this apply to
any FLASH card?

Thanks & Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Date:         Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:02:55 -0700
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-----Original Message-----
From:   al chin ÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
Sent:   Friday, June 26, 1998 7:10 AM
Subject:        Re: New applications wish list

I still cannot get CAPITALS to work.  Does it work and where?

Hold down your (left) shift button and zero ÝSHIFT + ZERO ¨  on the =
10key.  You should have the word CAPS above the number.  This will turn =
CAPS on.


I also can't copy a group of records from one file to another.

I'll assume you are using the built in DATABASE engine and the databases =
you are using have the exact same structure.  (all have the same field =
names)

Tag the records (space bar) and then select FILE/EXTRACT.  Type a temp =
name (TEMP.GDB) and hit enter.  Open the destination database and select =
FILE/MERGE.  Locate the temp file and the records will be copied into =
you database.

As with any database engine, the field formats for both databases must =
match.

Good Luck.

Don.

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:10:32 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Juno on the HP?
Comments: To: "Hobchi@AOL.COM" <Hobchi@AOL.COM>

Thanks al,

Thought you might be runnig Juno on your secondary computer ;-)

--tim
quoted:
Don't know if JUNO will run on the LX or not.
I;m running JUNO off of my desktop using window 95.
altho I doubt it, nn too much space and all.

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:42:43 -0500
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, David Hart wrote:

> This is unfortunate. I really think HP should at least upgrade the 200LX with
> backlighting (which is the only real reason I mentally flirt with the idea of
> going CE or Psion).

I think backlighting would be a mistake.  In good light, the 200lx screen
is among the easiest to read of any computer as long as you get it out off
80x25 mode.  Backlighting wouldn't help that mode anyway.

In bad lighting it's all but unreadable.  In mediocre light it's poor.
But at least it's great some of the time.

I have had a number of backlit mono laptops and at their best the best of
them is not too hard to read.  It's never really quite good enough for
reading for any length of time.

I'm afraid backligting would be that way on the 200lx as well.  That's great
for people who do no more than look up a phone number or an address.  But for
those of us who do programming on it, it would be a problem.  And the users
of programs such as vr who want to read a book in their spare time on the
palmtop, forget it.  It would just not be good enough for that.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:52:04 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Need to Unstack a 10MB HP Flash Disk
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, 82gntrbo wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have an HP200LX with 2MB of memory (basic unit) and a 10MB HP flash
> disk.  The flash disk is compressed with stacker to yield 20MB of
> storage.  I'm looking to uncompress the card at this time to try reading
> it in another computer (an NCR 3115 Safari Notebook computer).  I can't
> find my documentation on the card.  Can somebody please post the
> procedure to uncompress a flash disk?  And if anyone has any direct
> experience with using a 200LX and a Safari 3115 together, I'd appreciate
> any help you can provide.
> PS.  I'm new to this stuff, so type slow so I can understand you.  :)
> Thanks,
> Dan McCann

My first flash card came stacked and I used it that way to try it out.
It was fairly full when I decided to unstack it to reclaim the ram used
by the driver.

The way I did it, and I strongly reccomend this method, was to back it up,
uninstall stacker, format the disk, and then restore from the backup.

I assume you have a backup method already.  If you don't then I suggest
doing nothing till you do.

I also use my card with several laptops.  I'm not familiar with the Safari.
If it's Win95 it probably will recognize it as soon as you plug it in.  Or
it may have to look for a driver first but the Win95 driver works just fine
on my Sandisk cards and the HP card is a Sandisk card with the HP name.

If it's not Win95 then what you have to do is different for each computer
so I can't really help there.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:08:51 -0700
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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:
> I use Foxpro 2.0 and find it to be pretty useful on a 2x speed with 40MB
> flash card. It's kind of slow to load but plenty powerful. Program
> execution speed is fair to lousy. It does run faster with EMS memory and
> would probably run great on Mack special 32MB machine.

I'm getting used to Foxpro 2.0 on a 200LX with Times2Tech
clock-doubling and 32MB RAMdisk, and thus far it's more than keeping
up with me!  But I haven't made it do anything fancy yet, I'm still
playing with the built-in browse and RQBE stuff.

I do have a question though: what do I need to do to tell Foxpro about
the 200LX LCD?  Right now I think it thinks it's dealing with a CGA,
and drawing windows in all sorts of shades of gray, some of which are
difficult to read.  At one point I think I did get it to display
monochrome (I think by doing MODE MONO before running it) but that
also rendered the cursor invisible.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:37:59 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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This message is for users of the World Travel program on the SUPER site,
particularly if you live in California. The WT program helps to compute
travel distances and plots city locations on a world map (or custom maps for
registered users).

I've taken the census data from the Tiger Map website at:

        http://ftp.census.gov/geo/www/gazetteer/places.html

        (I used places.zip)

and extracted the 876 cities for California and formatted them to the layout
needed for wtravel.dat (for custom cities).

Anyone needing a list of Calif. cities can just edit the list for the ones
they want (WT appears to choke when more than 100 custom cities are
entered).

I don't think there are many of you out there (WT users in Calif), so just
email me if you want the 34k text list. WT's a nice aid to estimating
driving distances (and hence times) in Calif. The data from this list can
also be manually entered into the Great Circle 123 spreadsheet (mentioned
eons ago) to get a simple point to point distance.

- Longden

PS - The method is probably applicable to other states as well, but I didn't
want to fuss with the time zones.

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:25:33 -0500
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I have a 900 mHz digital cordless phone that claims to have a 3/4 mile
range.  I've never tested that but I have walked around the block with
it a few times without even bothering to raise the antenna.  So I know
it has more range than the old style cordless.

Another advantage, and the real reason I got it, is that there is no
slightest trace of interference or noise when I come near the computer.

Barry

On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Steven Lawson wrote:
> >
> > I just have to tell you what I just did, it's so cool and reeks
> > of pure geek. :-)
> > As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> > cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
> > It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird
> > velcro-wrapped 'thing' about twice the size - but it was wireless!
>
> Hmm... you know, a while back they had some commercials on for a new
> cordless phone.  The guy in the commercial took his cordless phone and went
> down the the grocery store but forgot his list... so he took out his
> cordless phone and turned it on and called his wife so she could tell him
> what he needed to get.  The basic premise was, I believe, that this
> cordless phone has a very long range.
>
> Anybody know how these worked?  I'm assuming that once you got out of your
> real range it switched over to some kind of cellular phone mode... then
> back once you were back in range.
>
> In any case, those might be interesting for just this sort of wireless data
> transfer.  So how fast was the connection?
>
> > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
>
> I sure hope you paid for that registration, mister, and didn't just
> "borrow" a copy from a friend, or the Goin' Postal author is going to be
> mighty ticked.
>
> <g>
>
> --
> Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:44:56 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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barrym wrote:

> I think backlighting would be a mistake.  In good light, the 200lx screen
> is among the easiest to read of any computer as long as you get it out off
> 80x25 mode.  Backlighting wouldn't help that mode anyway.

I want to support Barry: backlighting would be a mistake regarding battery life,
one of the 200LX's strong points. The screen is perfectly readable even in bad
lighting if you turn the screen so that it reflects the light source. Some time ago
I bought a small battery light from one of the sources advertising in the Palmtop
Paper. I never use it.
Winfried

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:50:14 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Another 200LX Adventure
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m. c. Beutler wrote:

> I was not aware of the use of 200LX's in Oklahoma City.  Would you be
> so kind as to expand on that?

I use mine in OKC everyday :-)

--
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Pillar Communication
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:58:27 -0700
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> Sure made my eyes pop, though. Until I checked--and re-
> checked--the names of the correspondents. Ditto re Messrs.
> Sargeant and Lawson here.

We are geeks, but still have some funn sometimes :-) ...

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:58:31 -0700
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Mark:

> Yeah, but then your letting Avi off the hook..  <g>

Maybe you did not notice, but I get on and OFF the hook
easily, even without generous help. The point is this: The
numbers then quoted were off by a lot, a great deal lot. I
will not divulge the numbers I have. That's it, semantics
notwithstanding. I won't classify precisely by how much off,
because I simply cannot give the number to you or the list
without breaking a promise I made. That is really all there is
to it.
  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:58:21 -0700
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Rick, on June 25 you wrote about your bad experience with mem
command. This generallyy does not happen with this command. No
idea what happened in your case.

> The moral of this story is to always have a current backup.  I've
> learned my lesson to perform full backups more faithfully.

If you permit me, I'd like to add another moral to your story:
Take a small sticker with an adhesive back, trim to fit into
the shallow well on the palmtop's back, in the vicinity of the
PCMCIA pullout lever, and write on it: Cold boot and the
sequence of keys to press as given to you by HP.

> I was also very surprised to see how much memory the system manager
> takes up.

Probably a misunderstanding. From the 636K max you lose
memory to keep Device drivers and TSRs, then SysMgr is about
135K. so you are left with about 480K more or less. SysMgr
applets (Memo, Phonebok etc) take memory form that 480K.

Your 93K could have been another parameter. Inside System
Manager you can run one DOS program. You can specify how much
memory to allocate to it. That method starts another instance
of DOS _while inside_ sysmgr. When you press Ctrl-Filer, then
Advanced you'll see the third parameter is how much memory to
allocate to that instance of DOS. Make it 200 and next when
you press Ctrl-123 you'll get a DOS instance with 200K.
Provided you have enough memory left.

You can get ALL the leftover memory for a dos instance if you
press Filer, then Menu, option, Dos.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:06:33 -0700
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This in from www.cellcomputing.com/third/newspres6.html:

Release Date: May 18, 1998

Cell Computing Introduces World's Fastest CardPC with 200 MHz Intel
Pentium Processor

Credit-card-sized PCs Offer MMX Technology for Mobile and Embedded
Systems

 PC Tech Forum, San Jose, Calif., May 18, 1998 -- Cell Computing, Inc.,
manufacturer of the CardPC -- industry's smallest Pentium processor
motherboard, today announced a new series of CardPC systems with up to
100% more performance than the company's current line. The new P200 and
P166 CardPC systems, featuring the low-power mobile Intel Pentium
processor with MMX technology, expand the supported memory of CardPC
systems to 128 MBytes of DRAM, and greatly extend the performance range
of 486 and Pentium Classic CardPC systems from Cell Computing. The
company also announced new configurations of its Mighty Mite
single-board computer featuring the 200 MHz Pentium processor with MMX
technology.

Henri Uehara, Cell Computing president, said, "Since our founding, Cell
Computing has dedicated itself to delivering the highest CPU performance
in the smallest possible form factor. These new CardPC implementations
enable Cell Computing to deliver genuine Intel Pentium CPUs with MMX
technology in the world's smallest motherboard."

"CardPC will enable us to more than double our system performance while
maintaining current battery life," said Donald W. Barrett, chairman and
CEO of Telepad, Inc. (NASDAQ:TPADA)

"The new CardPC is an amazing technical achievement," said Will Strauss,
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On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Stan Hall wrote:

> m. c. Beutler wrote:
>
> > I was not aware of the use of 200LX's in Oklahoma City.  Would you be
> > so kind as to expand on that?

It was used in conjunction with wireless fax to send composite drawings of
the suspects to FBI field agents who were equipped with 200LX's and wireless
gear. The subject was detailed in a Palmtop Paper article that you can read
at:

        http://www.thaddeus.com/p21/p210001e.htm

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:25:35 -0500
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> > I think backlighting would be a mistake.  Ýsnip¨
> > 80x25 mode.  Backlighting wouldn't help that mode anyway.

What about front-lighting?  I've never tried backlighting my palmtop,
as this would require dismantling it.  But when I do front light it,
using a battery powered portable lamp or a regular reading lamp on my
desk, the readablility is improved considerably, in all modes.

> I want to support Barry: backlighting would be a mistake regarding battery
> life, one of the 200LX's strong points.

True, but only if a screen (front or back) light was installed in such
a manner so it was always on.  Every illuminated LCD screen I've seen has
an operator control, so that the light could be turned on/off.  With
such control, the operator has the choice whether to use precious current
on lighting the palmtop or not.  In many instances, I would chose to
use the palmtop and reduce battery life versus not using it at all.
Then again, maybe this is one reason why our batteries last so long
in the 200LX - we aren't using it when*ever* possible - just when ambient
lighting is adequate!

-Chris


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Subject:      CAPITALs

Happy munday morning all;

I still cannot get CAPITALS to work.  Does it work and where?

Everywhere TO THE BEST OF my knowledge (see)
Can't get it to work nowhere without holding
down the shift key.  I have RTFM.
Read yor msg and even tried it, agin

Does anyone else have a problem with CAPITALS not working?

Just use  Shift + 0 to turn caps on permanently. Are you being
inflicted by a Buddyism perhaps?  No, don't got it
in the sys at all.

Tried holding L/sft 0, right sft 0, 0/L sft, 0/R-sft.
Nuttin.   anybodies, any ideas???????????

Yor pal al .....................

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Hey guys;
"I realize I am turning into an anacronism, but nowadays if
I express a novel idea, I like to use the blackboard! I
suppose I am evolving backwards."
Paul:

I recently moved into a new office, and had to fuss real loudly to get a
blackboard installed instead of the newer white board.  I just love to
use real chalk - so much better than those squeaky, stinky markers and
a board that doesn't completely erase without even smellier solvents...
Chris

That's real oxy ain't it new ideas on an old blackboard.
Where did you borrow the blue ideas from?

Old africa proverb: strong as an oak, flexi like bamboo
if yu don't bend wit the wind, you'll break agin it.
Only absolutes in life is change and death,
One is a process leading to the udder.

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:34:29 -0500
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Is there a way to merge two .txt files into one .txt file? Is there a
> utility that anyone knows of that does this that will run on the LX?

if you want to append fileb.txt to filea.txt creating a new file,
filec.txt, which contains the contents of filea.txt and fileb.txt,
use copy filea.txt+fileb.txt filec.txt.
No changes are made to filea.txt or fileb.txt.

> On another subject, assume I have info in the following format:
>
> xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxx,xxxx
>
> The x's represent either a numeral, an alphabet letter A-Z, a space or a
> character such as a ",*,$,/,etc.. Please note that these fields are
> separated by commas and the commas would never be included within the
> fields. How can I import this data into 1-2-3 so that each field is in it's
> own column? The file I have with info in the above format contains about
> 1500 lines of info and I would love to be able to save it in .wk1 format.
> Any ideas or suggestions would be welcomed.

Lotus can import comma delimted files but you have to have quotes around
the strings.  A string being anything that contains other than numbers and
decimal points and + or - signs.

It's been a while since I used Louts so I can't give you the exact keys
but it's /file import and somewhere in there you give it the file name
and tell it if you want to import text or numbers.  I think if you say
text it will import everything with each comma seperated item in a different
column and if you say numbers it will ignore the strings.  As I said it's
been a while but that should give you enough of a start to figure it out
pretty easily.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:57:42 EDT
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In a message dated 98-06-29 04:08:38 EDT, you write:
>  >>> Al Chin <Hobchi@AOL.COM> 28.06.98 15.29 >>>
>  >>  I used to use Framework at College on an Amstrad 1640 in conjunction
> with dBase3. Why would you want to use FW instead of 123 on the 200LX ?
>  >>  Cheers,   Ross
>  >>
>  > 'cause using 123  I don't use up no space to store FW which is hu-mungus
>   > since 123 and database and memo (text writer)  is already there in ROM.
>
>   > Why would you want to use FW and take up a couple 300,000 KB of space
>    > that you could use for games and data?
>
>  All well and good Al, I use the built-ins a lot too. I am however really at
> the end of the database's usability for me - I need relational!! Anybody got
> any good ideas (it'll probably have to be well programmable, small - I've
got
> a lot of data - and fast). I've tried Clipper 5.3 and it produces HUMUNGUS
> code (450k) that runs so slowly that you see the fields being filled out
(and
> there were only three of them!)                        Phil
>
  What about PARADOX 2.0, its small.

   It would be nice if chip was eprom and one could burn in what one needed..

   yor pal al..................

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In a message dated 98-06-29 06:09:10 EDT, you write:
>  # I knew that 200LX's were used at the Oklahoma City bombing and
now mine  has served me for this task... it's amazing how versatile and
useful our little machines can be!                    >  # Jeff
>  #
  Jeff,
>  I was not aware of the use of 200LX's in Oklahoma City.  Would you be
>  so kind as to expand on that?
>
>  This kind of thing convinces me that all law enforment people should
>  have a 200 with a datbase in the "weak hand holster" for those times
>  when info is not available from the dispatcher.
>
>  Regards,
>  mark beutler                                     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com
>
>  Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
>
   Good argument to persuade someone for a better LX2.50
with backlight and 386 with  DOS.   :)    yor pal al......................

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:40:34 +0100
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I've been following the Packet Radio on the HP200 thread and finally thought
I'd add my two penny worth (being from the UK, we still have pennies!)

I'm fortunate that I have a 20MB flash I'm not so restricted on disk space.

My first interest was to get the HP to control ny AOR8000 scanner, I bought
Scancat Gold (Ver6.0), which I use to up/download memory channels and remote
control the AR8000 scanner, via a homemade RS232-TTY converter (a cut down
HP connector one end, a MAX232 chip in the middle, powered from the HP, and
a 2.5mm stereo connector into the 8000).

Next I got a copy of Hamcomm (Ver 2.2) which worked well, I've recently
upgraded to HC3.1 which also seems to be working fine. JVFax Ver5.1 is
another recent addition (I tired Ver 7.0 but that kept crashing the system)
I don't seem to be having much luck with 5.1, so am looking for an earlier
version. Both HC and JVFax were fed via a comparitor type modem but I have
recently upgraded to the excellent BayPac Multmode, BP-2M, packet modem.

The base Radio I use is a Lowe HF225, although I'm now playing with a Sony
SW100 to try and get portable SSB.

I've tried PocSag decoding with PD2.03, unfortunatly this hung my machine
immediatly so I got in contact with the author, Peter Baston, who sent me an
earlier copy of PD (ver1.02), which after an initial problem (Ver 1.02
expects a signal on CTS and not the normal DSR. Requiring a quick solder
blob between pins 5 & 6 on one of my older demodulators) all now works and
decodes fine.

The latest addition was to get on packet (Callsign:G7IDB). I sent of to
Tigertronics for  a BP2M, the software I use is BayPac1.05. The Tx is from
my Icom IC24ET for both 2 & 70 packet operation, which regularly connects to
my local DX cluster (GB7DXH) with 5W into a 1/4 wave whip.

In summary my set up is:

PC      HP200LX
Radios  Icom IC24 SE
        Lowe HF225 (Sony SW100 on test)
Modem   BayPac BP2M
S/W     HamComm 3.1
        JVFax   4.1
        PocSag  1.02
        Baycom  1.05

A whole decoding station in a pencil case!

To try and get even smaller I'm just bought the Yaesu VX-1R, but can't get
my hands on the tiny 3.5mm 4 pole interface it requires, so I'm sticking
with the Icom - for the time being!

True QRP decoding

73s and sorry for the bandwidth!

David Cripps
G7IDB
d-cripps@dircon.co.uk

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:25:20 -0400
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 ---- you wrote:
> I have a 900 mHz digital cordless phone that claims to have a 3/4 mile
> range.  I've never tested that but I have walked around the block with
> it a few times without even bothering to raise the antenna.  So I know
> it has more range than the old style cordless.
>
> Another advantage, and the real reason I got it, is that there is no
> slightest trace of interference or noise when I come near the computer.

Well, I have a V-Tech 900MHz (mHz would be millihertz, and that's a fun frequency to play with, but not one you'd want to have near your head...  Think microwaves) phone, and when I lived in the college dorms, big, concrete and steel structures with high-voltage power lines running right through the parking lot that disruped radios and cell phones, my phone had a good half-mile range (I could still get calls just outside the cafeteria.)  I didn't even bother carrying my cell phone unless I was leaving campus.

> On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> > Steven Lawson wrote:

> > > I just have to tell you what I just did, it's so cool and reeks
> > > of pure geek. :-)
> > > As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
> > > cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
> > > It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird
> > > velcro-wrapped 'thing' about twice the size - but it was wireless!
> >
> > Hmm... you know, a while back they had some commercials on for a new
> > cordless phone.  The guy in the commercial took his cordless phone and went
> > down the the grocery store but forgot his list... so he took out his
> > cordless phone and turned it on and called his wife so she could tell him
> > what he needed to get.  The basic premise was, I believe, that this
> > cordless phone has a very long range.
> >
> > Anybody know how these worked?  I'm assuming that once you got out of your
> > real range it switched over to some kind of cellular phone mode... then
> > back once you were back in range.
> >
> > In any case, those might be interesting for just this sort of wireless data
> > transfer.  So how fast was the connection?
> >
> > > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED
> >
> > I sure hope you paid for that registration, mister, and didn't just
> > "borrow" a copy from a friend, or the Goin' Postal author is going to be
> > mighty ticked.

Hmmm, would he, say, Go Postal???
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              the 200LX.
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> I'm afraid backligting would be that way on the 200lx as well.  That's great
> for people who do no more than look up a phone number or an address.  But for
> those of us who do programming on it, it would be a problem.  And the users
> of programs such as vr who want to read a book in their spare time on the
> palmtop, forget it.  It would just not be good enough for that.

Your points are all apt, but my most serious problem with backlighting is
battery life. And if I'm somewhere where I can plug it in, I use an AC
powered light and sit back in the chair, comfy, with the light over my
shoulder.

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:16:23 +0100
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In message <Pine.BSI.3.95.980629113705.27805B-
100000@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, barrym <barrym@NEOSOFT.COM> writes
>On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, David Hart wrote:
>
>> This is unfortunate. I really think HP should at least upgrade the 200LX with
>> backlighting (which is the only real reason I mentally flirt with the idea of
>> going CE or Psion).
>
>I think backlighting would be a mistake.  In good light, the 200lx screen
>is among the easiest to read of any computer as long as you get it out off
>80x25 mode.  Backlighting wouldn't help that mode anyway.
>
>In bad lighting it's all but unreadable.  In mediocre light it's poor.
>But at least it's great some of the time.
>
>I have had a number of backlit mono laptops and at their best the best of
>them is not too hard to read.  It's never really quite good enough for
>reading for any length of time.
>
>I'm afraid backligting would be that way on the 200lx as well.  That's great
>for people who do no more than look up a phone number or an address.  But for
>those of us who do programming on it, it would be a problem.  And the users
>of programs such as vr who want to read a book in their spare time on the
>palmtop, forget it.  It would just not be good enough for that.
>
>Barry
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Hi :-)

Would an EL type of backlite be any better. The Electro Luminescent
materials appear to be bright and clear. I do not know enough to comment
on their battery consumption though.

Any ideas ?

Cheers
Ross
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:11:14 +0200
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Istn't there a .SET COLOR OFF or something? I used to do quite a bit of
foxpro coding back then.. (runs to the garage to get his old foxpro manuals
out) Yes, there is! SET COLOR OFF will make the display black and white. To
also make the display dispense with fancy shading, I think you will have to
use a color scheme. SET COLOR TO without attributes sets the color scheme
to just black and white.
Also, you may try SET COLOR OF
(NORMAL/MESSAGES/TITLES/BOX/HIGHLIGHT/INFORMATION/FIELDS) TO W/N will
produce a b/w effect and override color schemes in use.
Trouble is, in an app, any and all SET COLOR statement overrides whatever
you state at the outset when booting foxpro. (One irritating charavteristic
- the inability to override settings). So check your apps for any SET
statement that loads color schemes, or the CONFIG.FP file for similiar
settings.

If your cursor dissapears, try turning it back on with the SYS(2002,1)
command.

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> Fra: Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Re: Antw: Re: Framework V and the 200LX
> Dato: 29. juni 1998 19:08
>
> Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:
> > I use Foxpro 2.0 and find it to be pretty useful on a 2x speed with
40MB
> > flash card. It's kind of slow to load but plenty powerful. Program
> > execution speed is fair to lousy. It does run faster with EMS memory
and
> > would probably run great on Mack special 32MB machine.
>
> I'm getting used to Foxpro 2.0 on a 200LX with Times2Tech
> clock-doubling and 32MB RAMdisk, and thus far it's more than keeping
> up with me!  But I haven't made it do anything fancy yet, I'm still
> playing with the built-in browse and RQBE stuff.
>
> I do have a question though: what do I need to do to tell Foxpro about
> the 200LX LCD?  Right now I think it thinks it's dealing with a CGA,
> and drawing windows in all sorts of shades of gray, some of which are
> difficult to read.  At one point I think I did get it to display
> monochrome (I think by doing MODE MONO before running it) but that
> also rendered the cursor invisible.
>
> -Frank McConnell
>

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>  ---- you wrote:
> Well, I have a V-Tech 900MHz (mHz would be millihertz, and that's a fun =
frequency to play with, but not one you'd want to have near your head... =
 Think microwaves) phone, and when I lived in the college dorms, big, =
concrete and steel structures with hi
> gh-voltage power lines running right through the parking lot that =
disruped radios and cell phones, my phone had a good half-mile range (I =
could still get calls just outside the cafeteria.)  I didn't even bother =
carrying my cell phone unless I was leavi
> ng campus.
>
Not to nit-pick... :)
But millihertz would be fractions of a cycle per second, and as a
result, the wavelength would be huge (I'd compute the wavelength, but
forgot the formula.  Some ham I am...)  Microwaves have frequencies in
the high hundreds of Megahertz, to the multiple gigahertz range.

Bill
KE6VVW

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I have a brand new (still in shrink wrap) IntelliSync for sale. $50.

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> > I think backlighting would be a mistake.  Ýsnip¨
> > 80x25 mode.  Backlighting wouldn't help that mode anyway.

I think that it would require a different type of display anyway.  There are
Reflective displays ( like in the HP ) and Transflective ( which lets light
shine through it instead of reflecting it).  In this case, I am not real
sure that a backlight would transmit through the LCD anyhow.

If this is true, then even if you could do it, you probably couldn't afford
it !

>What about front-lighting?  I've never tried backlighting my palmtop,
>as this would require dismantling it.

Not a good idea.

>But when I do front light it, using a battery powered portable lamp or a
regular reading lamp on my
>desk, the readablility is improved considerably, in all modes.

Yes, for sure.  I understand that some users are using a "book lamp" with
sucess ( found at book stores ....Barnes and Nobel...etcv ).  It clips to
the HPLX and is battery powered.



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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: cheep 10MB flashcards

> I used to work at a retail computer store that would take trade-ins and
> such.  One day this guy came in with it and my boss said he didn't want
> it.  I told the guy that I would take it and asked him how much he wanted
> for it.  He had the flashdisk and an Apps disk for an HP Omnibook
> 600(?)and he said he just wanted to get rid of them, so I bought both for
> $30.  So, since I don't use the Apps disk, I guess I really got the
> flashdisk for $30. But, I guess it was a one-time only deal -- sorry!
>
> However, if anybody wants the Apps disk (HP Model F1030A), you can have
> it for the $15 plus the price of shipping and for return copies of the
> software on it. (On CD or something.)  It has (I don't know which
> versions, if anyone can tell me, that would be helpful.) MSDOS, Windows,
> Word, Excel, Mouse Drivers, Flash File System, Laplink Remote Access,
> etc.
>
> Otherwise, if anyone can tell me another way to make it work, then that
> would be good, too.  I tried it in the 200LX and in other computers with
> PC Card slots, but I've never been able to get it to work.  I've also
> never been able to try it on an Omnibook, so I would be willing to borrow
> somebody's Omnibook, too. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>

Thats not from a Omnibook 600, it is from an Omnibook 300. I think
that the 300 was the only one that had any apps on the rom card, the
400 and 500 series had only the bios on the rom card. The 600 series
had only hard drives, no rom card at all since they had a flash bios
built in. The programs on that card will not run on any other
computer than an Omnibook 300 since they are in XIP (execute in
place) format on the rom card, they actaully run from the rom without
being "loaded" into normal ram memory. This is why the original
Omnibook 300 could get by with just 2M of memory, it didn't need
memory to run programs, just to hold data. The reason that XIP format
won't work on other machines is that support for running programs
from rom was part of the bios, which is also located on that card.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Backlightlighting

 OK folks;
 Backlighting is out or on the back burner........
 Let's try for the 386, speed, and 64/128 MB of C: RAM storage
 maybe a second slot for pcmcia ??????

>> This is unfortunate. I really think HP should at least upgrade
>> the 200LX with backlighting (which is the only real reason
>> I mentally flirt with the idea of going CE or Psion).
>
>> I think backlighting would be a mistake.  In good light, the
>> 200lx screen is among the easiest to read of any computer as
>> long as you get it out off 80x25 mode.
>> Backlighting wouldn't help that mode anyway.


> In bad lighting it's all but unreadable.  In mediocre
> light it's poor But at least it's great some of the time.
>
>I have had a number of backlit mono laptops and at their best the best
of
>them is not too hard to read.  It's never really quite good enough for
>reading for any length of time.
>
>I'm afraid backligting would be that way on the 200lx as well.
 That's great for people who do no more than look up a phone
 number or an address.  But for those of us who do programming
 on it, it would be a problem.  And the users
>of programs such as vr who want to read a book in their spare time
 on the palmtop, forget it.  It would just not be good enough for that.
>
>Barry
>

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Subject:      Re: 900MHz phones (was: geek wireless)

> Well, I have a V-Tech 900MHz (mHz would be millihertz, and that's a fun frequency to play with, but not one you'd want to have near your head...  Think microwaves) phone, and when I lived in the col

Millahertz would be less than one hertz (one cycle per second). That
is about as far from microwaves as you can possibly get. More like
think of the vibreations caused by an earthquake.

Pete

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Subject:      Missing PATH SOLVED!!!
Comments: To: Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>

Many of you noticed that I missed typing ONE COLON in the path statement;
that was it!  <<actually, I think I was shortening my path and mis-thumbed
something...

Thanks a million for the extra sets of eyes!  ÝÝI know, "Small, unmarked
bills only...."  If I was wearing my other pants, maybe I could find
it...¨¨.

WP51 still hangs when I try to run it from DOS ... I've tried removing my
Smart drivers all together, tried "WP /x"  (correct syntax for one
suggestion I rcvd. here?) and am soon to give up.  It's prob. JUST like the
missing colon.

Also, any URL for "Mack Baggette's web site" (mentioned below), I tried one
found thru Excite and it wasn't there anymore.  ANY good driver update site
for the Double Speed and the extended memory would help ... always want the
best drivers!!

Thanks again all,

--tim



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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 1998 12:13 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Mystery of the missing PATH

<snip>

>You should also get newer drivers for the speed and 32MB memory
>upgrades from Mack Baggette's web site.

>One question - do you have to load the smart modular card driver before
>the speed upgrade driver? Just wondering if that might be creating
problems.

left that bit in ... dunno, deleting it didn't help ~maybe~ WP is having
fits w/ it, will try to tinker...

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> Well, I have a V-Tech 900MHz (mHz would be millihertz, and that's a fun
> frequency to play with, but not one you'd want to have near your head...
> Think microwaves)

One millihertz . . . one thousandth of a cycle per second . . . one
thousand seconds per cycle . . . wavelength of 300,000,000 kilometers

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Subject:      Re: World Travel users in California ...

Hi


I've taken the census data from the Tiger Map website at:
        http://ftp.census.gov/geo/www/gazetteer/places.html
        (I used places.zip)
and extracted the 876 cities for California and formatted them to
the layout needed for wtravel.dat (for custom cities).

Anyone needing a list of Calif. cities can just edit the list for
the ones they want (WT appears to choke when more than 100 custom
cities are entered).

I don't need the data but would like to have your file to see how
its done so I can do my place if you don't mind.  Why reinvent the
wheel:)  thanks.

Yor pal al .....................


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> On Monday, 29 Jun 1998, barrym@NEOSOFT.COM wrote
> I think backlighting would be a mistake.

Backlight modifications have been done on the 200LX a couple times.
Check out the URL's below for pictures. Hard to tell what display
quality is like from the pictures, but the modification involves
putting an electro-luminescent panel between the HP's LCD
display and it's reflective backing.  If the panel doesn't distort
the light too much, the quality should be good.  It's not a
hardware modification for the faint of heart and needs an outboard
battery pack, so it's not really too practical.

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ta3n-iszw/bllx.htm
http://www.portnet.ne.jp/~amaki/hp200lx/lxkaie4.htm
http://www.portnet.ne.jp/~amaki/hp200lx/lxindexe.htm

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bill@bell-labs.com

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You also might want to check your config.sys file.  I just found out that
the problem I was having with WP51 was NOT unloading emm100 first.  So, I
modified a *.bat file given to me by a friend to unload emm100 before using
WP51 and reloading it afterwards.  Now, everything works fine!

BTW, emm100 also causes a problem with the runtime version of Excel 2.1 and
Win 3.0.

>Date:    Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:59:42 -0500
>From:    "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
>Subject: Missing PATH SOLVED!!!
>
>Many of you noticed that I missed typing ONE COLON in the path statement;
>that was it!  <<actually, I think I was shortening my path and mis-thumbed
>something...
>
>Thanks a million for the extra sets of eyes!  ÝÝI know, "Small, unmarked
>bills only...."  If I was wearing my other pants, maybe I could find
>it...¨¨.
>
>WP51 still hangs when I try to run it from DOS ... I've tried removing my
>Smart drivers all together, tried "WP /x"  (correct syntax for one
>suggestion I rcvd. here?) and am soon to give up.  It's prob. JUST like the
>missing colon.
>
>Also, any URL for "Mack Baggette's web site" (mentioned below), I tried one
>found thru Excite and it wasn't there anymore.  ANY good driver update site
>for the Double Speed and the extended memory would help ... always want the
>best drivers!!
>
>Thanks again all,
>
>--tim

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On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Bill Schell wrote:

> Backlight modifications have been done on the 200LX a couple times.
> Check out the URL's below for pictures. Hard to tell what display
> quality is like from the pictures, but the modification involves
> putting an electro-luminescent panel between the HP's LCD
> display and it's reflective backing.  If the panel doesn't distort
> the light too much, the quality should be good.  It's not a
> hardware modification for the faint of heart and needs an outboard
> battery pack, so it's not really too practical.

The panels are opaque, so... the do distort the light quite a bit.  <g>

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Hi guy

I have a brand new (still in shrink wrap) IntelliSync for sale. $50.

.......and what do this intell sink do?
does it do windows?

Yor pal al .....................

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Subject:      Re: 900MHz phones (was: geek wireless)

EY>> > > As an experiment, I wrapped my TeleCoupler II to my stepdaughters
  >> > > cordless phone and tried downloading my email with GP.  It worked!
  >> > > It looked pretty silly, the tiny LX cabled over to this weird

What's a tele-coupler?

 * 1st 2.00 #9525 * Windows: The colorful clown suit for DOS.

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Comments: To: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>

No, it's a 'sink' so it may do dishes <g>!

<<sorry, couldn't contain that one...>>

>does it do windows?
>Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:30:57 -0500
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Subject:      HP's LX Software for the desktop

Are there any HP reps on the list?

I've been too lazy to call HP (Ok, I dread PBX-"press_1_now"-hell Ýand I
can't find TFM¨ but...

Years ago I bought a version of the HPLX software that would run on my
desktop in DOS, it would seamlessly use all the 100LX (and I guess) 200LX,
Phone, dBase, Appt. etc. files and I've damaged the disks.

How can I get them replaced/buy an upgrade?

All I think I still have is the three original disks and I didn't see a S/N.
Better yet, can I download the whole package somewhere?

We have so many calendar programs at work and I need plug-and-work tech ÝI
see many folks talking about ASCII/comma-delimited export for synch w/
Outlook, etc., but I just want to do a FAST, file-copy or button punch and
get things to synch.

Any ideas?

ÝÝwilling to hear of easy ways to make Outlook work w/ the 200LX too...¨¨

TIA

--tim


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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:34:07 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 900MHz phones (was: geek wireless)
Comments: To: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
In-Reply-To:  <19980630000813.24533.qmail@meteor.voicenet.com> from
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> What's a tele-coupler?

An acoustic coupler that hooks temporarily to the telephone handset.  It's
for those occasions where you can't hook to the physical wire.

Road Warrior makes the Telecoupler II, while Konexx makes a similar
one called the Konexx Koupler.

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:33:08 GMT
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          Travis Noll <nollx004@tc.umn.edu>

Why not run the built-in diagnostics?

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:52:58 -0500
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Subject:      Bad guys...

I wanted to thank all on the list wh responded with the kind thoughts about
the manhunt we are having here in central Alabama. The second shooter still
has not been caught but we believe he is somewhere in a 5 mile radius area.
You would not believe the number of police and National Gaurd members here
aiding in the search. The interstate system is staying constantly backed-up
for about 5 miles so that Troopers can check cars and trunks, even the
railroad has been stopped so that boxcars can be searched. The officer that
was killed was 29 years old, had only been on the job about six months. His
second anniversary with his wife was to be this weekend and his infant child
was only two months old.

I hope that I have responded to everyone who sent me personal email. If I
didn't please accept my apologies, it's just been a hectic, tiring day.

Everyone stay safe and please keep this downed officer's family in your
prayers.

Jeff


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No formatting is required. All CF and PC cards from SanDisk (aka HP, Psion,
Kodak), Kingston, Viking and Simple receive a low-level DOS format before
shipment from the manufacturer. This has either a 2kb or a 4kb cluster size
and can be read by Win3.x, 95, 98, NT and CE, as well as OS/2, EPOC32 and
MAC O/S. They are also compatible with digital cameras that bear either the
CFA or PCMCIA logo.

If a card is corrupted or loses its FAT, a low level format under DOS should
restore use of the card. Otherwise, contact the mfr for a replacement. Note:
Sandisk (HP/Psion/Kodak) warranty their cards for 1 year only. Other
manufacturers have a 5 year or lifetime warranty.



-----Original Message-----
From:   HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of Al
Kind
Sent:   29 June, 1998 08:48
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Format CF

Hi All:

     How do you format a CF for use in the 100/200LX? Is it as simple
as the DOS FORMAT command? Or is it more complex? Does this apply to
any FLASH card?

Thanks & Cheers,

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In a message dated 98-06-29 20:45:29 EDT, you write:
>  Years ago I bought a version of the HPLX software that would run on my
>  desktop in DOS, it would seamlessly use all the 100LX (and I guess) 200LX,
>  Phone, dBase, Appt. etc. files and I've damaged the disks.
>
You may be talking about the connectivity pack.   It runs on the
desktop so when you're home, you don't ruin your peepers.
also for backup.   It's free on SUPER, at Palmtop.net

BTW: yor the dude whats told me about wishy washy dishes in the synk.
gatcha.

yor pal al.

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Subject:      LX and packet

On a lighter note than some of my other posts here's a couple of questions I
have about the LX and packet.

1) How long will a set of batteries last in the LX last while powering the
BayPac modem? I've always been scared to go longer than 10-15 mintues.

2) I have to rename my autoexec.bat file to autoexec.old the change another
file's name to autoexec.bat then reboot in order to reboot the LX without
any TSR's that might affect the BayCom software. Is there an easier way to
go about this other than manually renaming the files each time the
rebooting? Maybe a way to automate the process?

73
Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:15:22 -0400
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is there a command you can use in a batch file to detect whether a
flashcard is in the A: drive or not?

Why?
cuz I want to backup the C: drive to a flashcard using a batch file that
is started by an appointment each night.  And if I forget to put the
flashcard in the drive then I would like the batch file to abort.

If you use a command like DIR A:\ then is there a way to intercept the
error message (i.e., Not ready reading drive A:\) so that the batch file
could continue or abort.

thanks

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thanks
mike

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:34:03 EST
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: LX and packet

> On a lighter note than some of my other posts here's a couple of questions I
> have about the LX and packet.
>
> 1) How long will a set of batteries last in the LX last while powering the
> BayPac modem? I've always been scared to go longer than 10-15 mintues.
>
> 2) I have to rename my autoexec.bat file to autoexec.old the change another
> file's name to autoexec.bat then reboot in order to reboot the LX without
> any TSR's that might affect the BayCom software. Is there an easier way to
> go about this other than manually renaming the files each time the
> rebooting? Maybe a way to automate the process?
>
> 73
> Jeff
>

Check on simtel for a a program called boot. There are a bunch of
these programs and I don't remember the exact name but the one I have
used is a combination of a device driver and a com file that let you
have multiple boot configurations in your config.sys and
autoexec.bat. It was quite small and flexible and wasn't one of those
that copies files around and reboots. It actually works alot like the
menu system in later versions of ms-dos. Look for something that has
a boot.com and a boot.sys in it, that is probably it.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:35:40 -0400
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              Clark Gaylord <gaylord@GAYLORD.ASYNC.VT.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Handheld computer shipments
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:45:41 -0700
> From:    "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> Subject: Re: Handheld computer shipments
>
> > Yes.  A magnitude, as I understand, is a power of ten.  That is, one
> .....
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I DEFINITELY should have use
> multiples, not magnitudes. Loose math sinks me occasionally
> :)...

Of course, 440,000 is also a multiple of 400,000. ;-)

<hey keep those tomatoes to yourself>

Clark

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:30:56 +0900
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              Kitakubo Kazuto <kitakubo@PTC.SONY.CO.JP>
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Subject:      Re: Format CF
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>     How do you format a CF for use in the 100/200LX? Is it as simple
>as the DOS FORMAT command? Or is it more complex? Does this apply to
>any FLASH card?

d:\bin\fdisk100.exe

--
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:27:32 -0400
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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At 07:59 PM 6/29/98 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
>I have to rename my autoexec.bat file to autoexec.old the change another
>file's name to autoexec.bat then reboot in order to reboot the LX without
>any TSR's that might affect the BayCom software. Is there an easier way to
>go about this other than manually renaming the files each time the
>rebooting? Maybe a way to automate the process?
>
========
Here's one easy solution for rebooting the LX without TSR's:

1.  Put your primary set of Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files (with TSRs)
on A: drive.
2.  Put your clean set (no TSRs) of files (same names) on C: drive.
3.  To clean boot: Reboot, press the ALT key, and press 2 to select C: drive.
4.  To boot with TSRs, just reboot and the A: drive files get processed.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:32:24 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Psion is teaming up with Nokia, Ericsson and Motorola!

It seems that have a smart-phone in mind, which will probably beat
WinCE well and good.


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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:39:28 -0400
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> Date:    Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:52:08 -0500
> From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> Subject: Another 200LX Adventure
>
> While serving the public as a deputy sheriff my 200LX has been through a
> lot, including high speed chases even a F5 tornado, but this weekend it has
> ...
> Late Saturday night, 11:00PM local time, a Moody, AL policeman stopped a car
> for a traffic violation (there's no such thing as a 'routine' stop), the car
> contained the two suspects, they shot and killed him. He was 29 years old

Are there kevlar carrying cases for the LX?

Good luck, Jeff!

Clark

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:41:00 +1000
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I'm thinking of starting to work from a budget for my daily
expenses...

Have you Quicken users found it good for this? It does seem to have
a lot of full-on Ý1¨ accountancy features that are required for
serious business accounts?

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I press Shift (left or right, doesn't matter), then let up on it - you
should see the SHIFT up-arrow in the lower left (or right-) hand corner of
the screen.  Then press the 0 (tha't's zero, not Oh).  You should see the
CAPS indicator in the lower left (or right-) hand corner of the screen.
Repeat this to turn off CAPS.
-George

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:09:24 -0700
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> Psion is teaming up with Nokia, Ericsson and Motorola!
> It seems that have a smart-phone in mind, which will probably beat
> WinCE well and good.

Over on HPHAND they were discussing the fact that the next generation of
smart phones will be based on Psion's OS instead of WinCE, which (not
surprisingly) upset Microsoft.  Word was they were specifically concerned
about the operating system monopoly of MS when they decided to go with the
Psion OS...
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PC Mag  BATCHMAN   allows you to test for
the existance of a drive among the many other
ways it extends the batch language. Its in the Simtel
collection as:
     v9n02.zip     53K  89/12/17  PCMag: BATCHMAN
You should be able to get it from www.shareware.com using
the above zip file name.

allen solof wrote:

> is there a command you can use in a batch file to detect whether a
> flashcard is in the A: drive or not?
>
> Why?
> cuz I want to backup the C: drive to a flashcard using a batch file that
> is started by an appointment each night.  And if I forget to put the
> flashcard in the drive then I would like the batch file to abort.
>
> If you use a command like DIR A:\ then is there a way to intercept the
> error message (i.e., Not ready reading drive A:\) so that the batch file
> could continue or abort.
>
> thanks
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:50:06 -0700
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I hate to disappoint you, but Ericsson already has a GSM phone with infrared
modem that connects to an MC-16 (rebadged HP360LX) WinCE 2.0 machine. Psion
is a business necessity for them because of the European market, but
Ericsson and anyone else who's not myopic can see that embedded systems,
web-tv, Palm PCs, Auto PCs, handhelds and subnotebooks will all account for
a huge market largely dominated by WinCE. Sorry...

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Subject:        Psion Symbian

Psion is teaming up with Nokia, Ericsson and Motorola!

It seems that have a smart-phone in mind, which will probably beat
WinCE well and good.


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Here's the current list of LX users on this list who use the LX for packet
radio, or who have asked to be on this list ... (or have mentioned some
nifty stuff about LX and packet).  Thanks to all who contacted me directly.

Jan Allbright, KC0BUY
Bill Childers, KE6VVW
David Cripps, G7IDB
Martin Crundall, AC6RM
John Evans, N0HJ
Andreas Fuehrmann, DC3AFA
Mitch Hamm, N8XS
Tom Hoover, N5NTM
Jeff Johns, KF4KGO
Ari Kosonen, OH7KA
Jim Krist, KB9BO
Steven Lawson, WB6ORC
Chris Lott, WD4OLP
Ramon Santoyo, XE1KK
Stephen Souza, WB1BUH
Tony Stein, KO6DR

In a few days, I'll have a web page and I'll start nagging you all for:
a) station descriptions (I have extracted some from your emails);
b) pix;
c) screen captures of the software you use, if you can get them
d) wiring diagrams for the particular radios/tncs you use.
e) your description of what the ultimate LX packet .exm application would
look like
f) your packet address
g) stories, whatever.

It'll be your/our page, exulting the virtues of doing packet the cool way
:) and showing folks how to do it with their LX and their radio.

I'm also thinking about adding a section on the LX as a logger (contest, or
whatever), or HF digi or whatever in the ham shack.  So if there are others
that want to contribute in that way, let me know.

73 Martin AC6RM

p.s. hope you guys had fun on field day; we definitely didn't kick anyone's
butt, but we sure had fun!

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:28:33 -0700
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allen solof wrote:
>
> is there a command you can use in a batch file to detect whether a
> flashcard is in the A: drive or not?

I made a program specifically to check for a card in the socket.  It's on
SUPER, called CHKSLT.

Even better, Stefan Peichl's LXCIC program will tell you (via errorlevel,
for batch files) not only if there is a card in the socket, but what kind
of card it is.  (Modem, flash, SCSI, Ethernet, etc.)
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Hi all,

Thought i would look at Forth again. Got hold of Pygmy Forth, the latest HP
specific one. But why can't I look at words or edit a block, I keep getting
'pos error'. Both from sysman and from clean DOS.

Any help?

Franklin

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:57:01 -0500
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Subject:      Re: SOFTPLOT - HP BASIC-STYLE PLOTTER, GRAPHIC SUPPORT P

On 06-28 01:52pm, was written-}

#
# Anyway, I really appreciate s/w like softplot, and wish you every success
# if you decide to market it for a HP200 environment with its Deskjet
# printers!
# Cheers
# Paul


Bear in mind that one is almost forced into this since HP, in its
infinite wisdom, makes no small plotters anymore, nor do they support
HP Plotter codes in thier inexpensive deskjets.  I think the cheapest
deskjet that supports plotting is the 1600C. (not cheap!)

Regards,
mark beutler                                     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:31:04 -0700
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Hey everyone!

Anyone know of a DOS Menu front end, similar to what Goin' Postal uses? I am
interested ind oing some programming, and want to keep the efficiency (size and
speed wise) that yexy based DOS programming provides. Anyone got any sources? I
would prefer (1) C or (2) Pascal

Thanks for any references.

Brian

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:37:47 -0700
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Hi LX'ers,

I am in the market for a pocket modem for my 200lx. I would like to find
a good used 28.8 but I'll consider a 14.4. Just need it for email on my
200LX.
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73

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:41:50 -0700
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I have been following the packet radio thread with mild interest and
noted a large following of ham's lurking about.

What amateur software is available for the 200LX other than the CW
learning programs I've seen?

Has anyone successfully used Scancat (scanner control software) on a
200LX?

How about repeater directory databases, by state or region?

tnx
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Nick Marsh
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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LXBatch by Rob Koenis can detect the availability of a drive. I am not
sure if Mitch has a copy on the Super site but I would expect so?

GaryS

> is there a command you can use in a batch file to detect whether a
> flashcard is in the A: drive or not?

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:01:37 -0500
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Hi Jeff

Yu ask: Are there kevlar carrying cases for the LX?

Probably not but if you get a piece, you can get one
made.  They make kevlar T-shirts don't they?  There
are a lot of these hand made custom shops around cities
that will do it for about $35-$50.  You can get them do
do it any way you like.  Have them make a wide belt loop
for all the stress you'll put on it getting in and out
of a car. Maybe even a pouch slot for an extra pcmcia.
(Remember, it rains. Don't worry about the color, if it
comes in ecru, you can always dye it to color of choice

Let us know where?

Yor pal al .....................

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:49:20 -0500
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Okay, I want to submit myself for inclusion on the "MUP" list... This
weekend, I worked on a C program whilst berthed on the bottom of a three
tiered suspended bunk bed deep within the bowels of a South Dakota class,
WW-II battleship, the U.S.S. Alabama.

Despite all our technology advances over the years, I bet my palmtop
still couldn't crank out the 16inch gun fire control solutions as fast
as the spectacular mechanical/analog computer located in the "plotting"
room of the ship. (Now, maybe my pentium desktop probably could...).

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:53:02 EDT
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Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>

I use it daily and really love it.  I upload a few times a year to my
desktop Quicken using Pocket Quicken Connect.  I find it great for
tracking job-related expenses, esp on trips.  I can generate an expense
report using the built-in report functions and print it out almost as
soon as I get back!

It is not a business accounting system, but is fairly versatile for
personal finance and expense tracking.

- Danny

Text of message from bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU, 30 Jun 1998, 12:41 AM
> I'm thinking of starting to work from a budget for my daily
> expenses...
>
> Have you Quicken users found it good for this? It does seem to have
> a lot of full-on Ý1¨ accountancy features that are required for
> serious business accounts?
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> > I'm thinking of starting to work from a budget for my daily
> > expenses...

I have found that pocket quicken doesn't allow budgeting.  I have to
set up my budget on my desktop copy of quicken.  If anyone know
different, please let me know...

-Chris

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>> I got 30+ hours consistantly over a month from a pair of
Walgreen  plain rap alkaline batts.    Wuz i counting rong?
They are 50 cents each.<<

I have had about the same luck when I use the Walgreen
batteries. I keep a pair in my carry-all in case I'm 'caught
short' on a trip. I usually use the NiMH batteries. I've
gotten used to using abc/lx and having to not think about
batteries unless flying or srtranded in airports.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
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>>Would my license for ÝWordPerfect¨ version 6.0 qualify me to
use an older copy, were I able to obtain one? <<

Chris. First let me apply the usual "I'm not a lawyer" "Hold
Harmless" "I could be clueless" disclamers. (g)

And I'm discounting what I heard about Corel today. (g)

Insofar as WordPerfect and Corel are concerned, having a
licence allows you to use the version specified in the
license and nothing else. When I upgraded from WP 5.1 to 5.1
plus (many moons ago) the documentatiom told me I could no
longer use the previous version. Not legally, anyway.

Egghead has WP 5.1+ for $219.42 and the upgrade at 79.99.

I know some companies allow the use of previous versions. WP
never did, nor does Corel.

The Corel site says they have liscencing arangements
available, but these are probably for businesses.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:23:53 -0400
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Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:31:41 -0400 (EDT)

06h27m57s ago ...
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Thought i would look at Forth again. Got hold of Pygmy Forth, the =
latest HP
> specific one. But why can't I look at words or edit a block, I keep =
getting
> 'pos error'. Both from sysman and from clean DOS.

Hi-

I'm the guy that did the HP modifications to Pygmy.  I've been using it
(and doing all the development) on my two palmtops - an old 100LX, and
a new 8MB dbl-speed 200LX.  Works for me.  What the heck is a "pos
error"?  Never seen that one.

Do you have HP-Pygmy.com and all the .scr files in the same directory?
If you do, use VIEW to look at words - ie VIEW .FILES or VIEW *   You
can also use V as a shortcut for VIEW.

To edit a block do Ýblock #¨ EDIT  ie  2000 EDIT.  Use ÝESC¨ to leave
the editor.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:22:36 -0500
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Somebody said...:

>You may be talking about the connectivity pack.   It runs on the
>desktop so when you're home, you don't ruin your peepers.
>also for backup.   It's free on SUPER, at Palmtop.net

Which file is it ?

TIA
Jon,

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:00:53 -0500
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Umm...
It _does_ sound like you're describing the Connectivity Pack, but it
definitely isn't available on SUPER.  The link on SUPER is to Transfile
200, a Windows-based file transfer program.  It is nice in that it is VERY
easy to use, but it is a little slow (limited to 56Kbaud).  The best part
is that it is free.

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07h08m54s ago ...
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> I keep getting 'pos error'. Both from sysman and from clean DOS.

Hi again-

Just went back thru the Pygmy source.  "pos error" is coming from
Pygmy.  Why I don't know.  Like I said, I've never seen this error
message.  One possibility is that you don't have enough available files
set up in config.sys  -  You should have a line reading files=3D20 (or a
higher number).  Other than that I dunno.  Tried grabbing it from SUPER
to check if I left out any necessary files, but it's all there.
Unzipped it and ran it from its own directory (separate from my working
copy) and it worked fine.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:50:53 -0400
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I got this one licked. I use cursor.com ( from super, I think...) that
makes the cursor visible at all times. I also use the "mono8025" and
"mode mono" commands to get the screen colors right. If you do any dos
calls you may need to use a "!mono8025" command from within Foxpro. I
haven't encountered too many prepackaged apps but if you have source you
can play with any defined color schemes. I leave it on the default
colors and it looks great.

It's nice to see other LX'ers using Foxpro. I find it very useful. I've
written a portfolio management and stock charting program, a time
billing system and a compressed document management system (ala Zipray)
in Foxpro. It's all kludge code that I fix on the fly but it works for
me. I just never had the time to learn C and Xbase is soooo much easier.


Later.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Paal Rasmussen Ýmailto:paal@AH.TELIA.NO¨
                Sent:   Monday, June 29, 1998 4:11 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        ÝHPLX-L¨ SV:foxpro colors and the 200LX

                Istn't there a .SET COLOR OFF or something? I used to do
quite a bit of
                foxpro coding back then.. (runs to the garage to get his
old foxpro manuals
                out) Yes, there is! SET COLOR OFF will make the display
black and white. To
                also make the display dispense with fancy shading, I
think you will have to
                use a color scheme. SET COLOR TO without attributes sets
the color scheme
                to just black and white.
                Also, you may try SET COLOR OF

(NORMAL/MESSAGES/TITLES/BOX/HIGHLIGHT/INFORMATION/FIELDS) TO W/N will
                produce a b/w effect and override color schemes in use.
                Trouble is, in an app, any and all SET COLOR statement
overrides whatever
                you state at the outset when booting foxpro. (One
irritating charavteristic
                - the inability to override settings). So check your
apps for any SET
                statement that loads color schemes, or the CONFIG.FP
file for similiar
                settings.

                If your cursor dissapears, try turning it back on with
the SYS(2002,1)
                command.

                ----------
                > Fra: Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
                > Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
                > Emne: Re: Antw: Re: Framework V and the 200LX
                > Dato: 29. juni 1998 19:08
                >
                > Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:
                > > I use Foxpro 2.0 and find it to be pretty useful on
a 2x speed with
                40MB
                > > flash card. It's kind of slow to load but plenty
powerful. Program
                > > execution speed is fair to lousy. It does run faster
with EMS memory
                and
                > > would probably run great on Mack special 32MB
machine.
                >
                > I'm getting used to Foxpro 2.0 on a 200LX with
Times2Tech
                > clock-doubling and 32MB RAMdisk, and thus far it's
more than keeping
                > up with me!  But I haven't made it do anything fancy
yet, I'm still
                > playing with the built-in browse and RQBE stuff.
                >
                > I do have a question though: what do I need to do to
tell Foxpro about
                > the 200LX LCD?  Right now I think it thinks it's
dealing with a CGA,
                > and drawing windows in all sorts of shades of gray,
some of which are
                > difficult to read.  At one point I think I did get it
to display
                > monochrome (I think by doing MODE MONO before running
it) but that
                > also rendered the cursor invisible.
                >
                > -Frank McConnell
                >

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>is there a command you can use in a batch file to detect
>whether a
>flashcard is in the A: drive or not?

>Why?
>cuz I want to backup the C: drive to a flashcard using a batch
>file that
>is started by an appointment each night.  And if I forget to
>put the
>flashcard in the drive then I would like the batch file to
>abort.

>If you use a command like DIR A:\ then is there a way to
>intercept the
>error message (i.e., Not ready reading drive A:\) so that the
>batch file
>could continue or abort.


How about:

dir a: > a$
if a$ =3D not ready abort else call "your batch file"



>thanks

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:49:11 -0500
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Hey everybody. Im back. I had a nasty run in with the geocities e-mail
system, and am now downloading all of my e-mail from 2 months back :P I
have updated my palmtop page, and have made it more palmtop friendly. I
also finally got my ham license. I was wondering if the yeasu xv-1r is
any good for palmtop packet?

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:40:56 -0500
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On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Carpman wrote:

> Hey everybody. Im back. I had a nasty run in with the geocities e-mail
> system, and am now downloading all of my e-mail from 2 months back :P I
> have updated my palmtop page, and have made it more palmtop friendly. I
> also finally got my ham license. I was wondering if the yeasu xv-1r is
> any good for palmtop packet?

Congratulations on getting your ticket! Yes the VX-1R will work, but it
is a very low power unit. I use an FT-50R.

73
Jeff

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 What crashed at Roswell was actually a very early version of Windows.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:58:28 -0600
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              Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
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I really like the idea of a repeater database.
I think that besides information like freq, offset, pl, autopatch,
location ... we should include information as to highway coverage (like
+/- 50 miles from location on Rt66).

I would be happy to provide the information for Colorado.


On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> I have been following the packet radio thread with mild interest and
> noted a large following of ham's lurking about.
>
> What amateur software is available for the 200LX other than the CW
> learning programs I've seen?
>
> Has anyone successfully used Scancat (scanner control software) on a
> 200LX?
>
> How about repeater directory databases, by state or region?
>
> tnx
> --
> 73
>
> Nick Marsh
> WB4SQI
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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:07:18 +0200
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I have just tested two basic-compiler.
QBasic 4.5 from MS and PowerBasic 2.1

Pros PowerBasic:
- It seems for me the tool for the professionel
programmer; no limitations for the string data-type and
TSR-programming and elaborated linker options
with version 3.0;
- fast compiler (doesn't matter if you use the interpreter)
- it is still available
(version 2.1 for 68 DM ~ 120$ from Pearl Agency GmbH, Germany)

Pros QBasic 4.5:
- it is possible to run it from the palmtop program manager
(which is not possible for pb 2.1)
(having memo and qbasic open at the same time
is very nice if you write files with your qb-application)
- version 1.1 is widely available
- the help system is more intuitive for me
(F1 and F2 have nearly the same function as
in Visual Basic for Application)
- http://www.microsoft.com/windows/download/olddos.exe
(qb 1.1 interpreter only)
- http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4668/qbasic.html
(qb 4.5 with compiler for quick programming within 24h :-)
*
- summary: I decided to use QBasic

Pros Basic Programming on the palmtop
- low skills required
- low memory requirements (interpreter)
- source code might be used with other envirements
  (VBA)

if you like the idea of programming with basic on the palmtop too,
please send me a mail :-)

Eckart

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:11:47 -0600
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Comments: To: paal@ah.telia.no

Hey thanks for the feedback. So I'm not totally insane. I gave up
on it when windows came around, but if there's life to the HP200,
I've got some time on my hands if I don't want to spend it learning
how to do ASP and COM instead....

I've also wanted to port this package to VB and Java, who knows...


On 1998-06-28 paal@ah.telia.no said to arthurhu@halcyon.com
   >Ah!
   >That brings back memories! I have owned most of the nice HP
   >products over the years, beginning with their first calculator. I
   >fondly remember trying to reverse engineer the HP-85 operating
   >system with a friend by dissasembling the ROMS with the assembler
   >package! The floor of a warehouse was littered with computer paper
   >and we traced variables for days! One of the truly great HP
   >products, and one that gave credence to the Basic language. I
   >always wondered why "those other people" (mainly apple users) would
   >put up with such arcane hardware end software. Heck, if I tired of
   >writing my own software I could even run Visicalc from my
   >tapedrive! Given i had the right money, I would love to invite the
   >guys responsible for HP Basic, their wonderful plotters, the HP-85,
   >the 41C and the 95 to a brainstorming session about the future of
   >computing. Seems to me we've lost the way somewhere.
   >The ingeniuity of those products are hard to beat. I remember doing
   >assembler programing on the 41C with undocumented op-codes, and
   >getting more than a thrill from doing it - I also got some serious
   >work done!
   >Nowadays you see packages where math functions are undocumented
   >because the majority of users don't use them, and have you ever
   >tried plotting a sin(x)/x using VB for applications? Tons of code,
   >and hours debugging event driven dialogue boxes when all you want
   >to do is something basic that you used to be able to do with a few
   >well thought out keystrokes. On a HP product that is.
   >As HP has gone into bed with Microsoft, we see the sign of
   >intelligent thought dissapearing from HP products, driven out by
   >mindless consumerfocused, marketingdriven design.
   >I realize I am turning into an anacronism, but nowadays if I
   >express a novel idea, I like to use the blackboard! I suppose I am
   >evolving backwards into the greek philosopher myth where the medium
   >of communication was circles drawn in the sand!
   >Anyway, I really appreciate s/w like softplot, and wish you every
   >success if you decide to market it for a HP200 environment with its
   >Deskjet printers!
   >Cheers
   >Paul
   >----------
   >> Fra: Arthur Hu <arthurhu@HALCYON.COM>
   >> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >> Emne: SOFTPLOT - HP BASIC-STYLE PLOTTER, GRAPHIC SUPPORT PACKAGE
   >> Hi All, way back in the 1980s ,I devised something called
   >> softplot/bgl for gwbasic, it provided support for "AGL",
   >> HP standard 2D scaled device independent graphics for the
   >> screen and plotters like the HP7470. It also has a simple
   >> 3D system, and a hidden-line plotting module for surface
   >functions. >
   >> These commands were used on most HP basic-based computers like
   >> the HP85, HP9800 series, and HP2647 programmable terminals.
   >> For whatever reason, this command set never caught on outside
   >> of the HP world.
   >.....
   >> To plot sin(x) / X for example, the program would simply
   >> be
   >> 10 :newplot
   >> 20 :scale -PI,PI,-1.0,1.0
   >> 30 for x = -PI to PI step PI/20
   >> 40 :plot x, sin(x)
   >> 50 next x
   >> 60 endplot
   >> Beats the heck out of using native LINETO or HPGL with
   >> COM port statements.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:12:01 -0600
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Comments: To: garys@ibm.net

Yes, it uses a preprocessor to translate :keywords to standard
gosub statements, calls the lineto commands for screen, or
redirects them to a plotter/HPGL statements for the plotter. I
even did a fortran program that parsed HPGL into a fortran array
frame buffer to print out to EPSON MX-80. Too bad I didn't sell
many back then.


On 1998-06-29 garys@ibm.net said to arthurhu@halcyon.com
   >> These commands were used on most HP basic-based computers like
   >> the HP85, HP9800 series, and HP2647 programmable terminals.
   >> For whatever reason, this command set never caught on outside
   >> of the HP world.
   >I have two HP85s in my closet, one of them is loaded with a lot of
   >the add-on roms, memory and interfaces (but not HPIB). Unfortunately
   >neither is able to reliably read and write to tape any more - I
   >think the rubber compnents of the drive system have deteriorated
   >>too much.  You can still get HP plotters for $400 or so, I have an
   >extra > one.
   >I have two of these in my closet as well both HPIB interface so have
   >not connected them to anything yet.
   >> I haven't had time yet
   >> to dust it off, but I'm wondering how much interest there is
   >> in it, I could make it available as free ware. Otherwise I'll
   >> probably just let it sit around for a few more years.
   >> To plot sin(x) / X for example, the program would simply
   >> be
   >> 10 :newplot
   >> 20 :scale -PI,PI,-1.0,1.0
   >> 30 for x = -PI to PI step PI/20
   >> 40 :plot x, sin(x)
   >> 50 next x
   >> 60 endplot
   >Sounds interesting to me. I liked the plotting capabilities in the
   >HP85 - didn't get in the way of getting the job done. I presume the
   >routines you are offering will plot to the screen of a 200LX or a
   >file as well as to a plotter.
   >GaryS

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:12:58 -0600
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Comments: cc: pacific@CASTLES.COM

what's a 700LX and why is it an upgrade?

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:12:41 -0700
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The following was spam posted in C.S.P. This is why we want to stay a mail
list, so we don't waste our time with this.

The 200LX "on sale" is a 1mb unit for $600 (like he says on the website ...
an incredible price). Even retail stores are cheaper!

Also selling the Transfile Win200 software (that we can download for free
from HP's website) ... in his words "is a steal at $24.95"!

- Longden


On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Christopher Edmunds wrote:

> Samson Cables is having a sale on HP 200 LX Palmtops
> and Flash Cards:
>
> Hewlett Packard  200LX only $599.95!
>
> See http://muffet.com/samsoncables for details.
> or email samson@muffet.com

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:20:34 -0700
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> I really like the idea of a repeater database.
> I think that besides information like freq, offset, pl, autopatch,
> location ... we should include information as to highway coverage (like
> +/- 50 miles from location on Rt66).
>
> I would be happy to provide the information for Colorado.
>

I have a repeater database (.gdb) for the state of California.  I can
send it to Mitch Hamm for posting on SUPER if anyone's interested.

Bill
KE6VVW

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:34:34 -0700
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On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Christopher Edmunds wrote:
>
> > Samson Cables is having a sale on HP 200 LX Palmtops
> > and Flash Cards:
> >
> > Hewlett Packard  200LX only $599.95!
> >
> > See http://muffet.com/samsoncables for details.
> > or email samson@muffet.com

ROFL!

Thanks, Longden.  This is about the funniest thing I've seen in a long
time.

Wow!  If we're lucky we can even get a 2MB unit for the low, low price of
$649.95!

Or, in a direct quote:

Expansion cards for the popular HP 200LX palmtop at an incredible price,
available in 5 MB ( $549.95) and 10 MB ($799.95).

Or we can order some products for the "Hewlett Packard 95LX Calculator."

I wonder if this guy is sitting at home, wondering why nobody is calling
up and ordering from him.

"Dang!  I went to all the trouble of posting ads in the newsgroups, and
nobody ordered!  I spent that $59.95 for CyberPromos to send my mails out
to 500,000 people, and still no response!  I wonder why-- 400% isn't that
big of a markup.  We must be in a recession."

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:05:17 -0700
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Bill Childers wrote:
>
> I have a repeater database (.gdb) for the state of California.  I can
> send it to Mitch Hamm for posting on SUPER if anyone's interested.
>
> Bill
> KE6VVW

I would be interested in a .gdb for KY and WV, coastal NC. If anyone has
these email me privately.

I don't have time to spend creating them right now.
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Nick Marsh
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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:36:00 -0700
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> Does anyone have a good icon for use with the system manager?

You mean an icon for WP 5.1, I am guessing... Send by email.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Jeff, good story on versatility of 200LX. Please be careful,
as you say:

<< ... this guy looks like he's one mean sucker! >>

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> Is there a way to adjust the information in each line when looking at t
> he list
> of items
> in a newsgroup?

No, you can only toggle the date of the message.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Chris:

> Good idea.  I just now realized that the program operates in medium
> screen mode (64 cols?).  My $0.02 suggestion is to offer an 80-col
> display...

Press Fn-space bar.

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Somebody said...:
dat wuz me

>You may be talking about the connectivity pack.   It runs on the
>desktop so when you're home, you don't ruin your peepers.
>also for backup.   It's free on SUPER, at Palmtop.net

Which file is it ?
I don't know, something like cpaky. The reason is it had more than
one dumb name so I changed it to a nmonic for my files.  In any
case its not rare and it starts off cp???fd.zip

TIA
Jon,

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Umm...
It _does_ sound like you're describing the Connectivity Pack, but it
definitely isn't available on SUPER.  The link on SUPER is to Transfile
200, a Windows-based file transfer program.  It is nice in that it is
VERY
easy to use, but it is a little slow (limited to 56Kbaud).  The best part
is that it is free.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

So is the connectivity pack and it is on SUPER.
I got it there.
Transfile is a later ver and needs two serial ports,
(But it is better than cpack) One for your mouse and
one for you LX, or how did you get around that,
put your modem on com3 or 4.

Yor pal al .....................

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There it is folks,
yor tip for the day.........

>> I got 30+ hours consistantly over a month from a pair of
Walgreen  plain rap alkaline batts.    Wuz i counting rong?
They are 50 cents each., actually over two months.

I have had about the same luck when I use the Walgreen
batteries. I keep a pair in my carry-all in case I'm 'caught
short' on a trip. I usually use the NiMH batteries. I've
gotten used to using abc/lx and having to not think about
batteries unless flying or srtranded in airports.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox   cdcox@ccnet.com

Step right up and getcha 50 cent Walgreen alkaline batts
before they up the prices.

Yor pal al .....................

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At 09:58 AM 6/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I really like the idea of a repeater database.
>I think that besides information like freq, offset, pl, autopatch,
>location ... we should include information as to highway coverage (like
>+/- 50 miles from location on Rt66).
>
>I would be happy to provide the information for Colorado.
>
I'll do Georgia
73's



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I have got problems with my appointment book permanently.
Corrupt records with nonsense text appear perodically.
I do not know how to face that problem any more. It happened that I
had to restore from an old backup because the database was not
accessible at all (record not found).

I tried to build a new database and import the old entries but the
problems remained.
Before that, I used Garlic several times to repair the database file.

Are there other possibilities to get a non-currupt database ?

Any help is very much appreciated as I organize nearly everything
with the appointment book.

Regards,
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> I have got problems with my appointment book permanently.
> Corrupt records with nonsense text appear perodically.
> I do not know how to face that problem any more. It happened that I
> had to restore from an old backup because the database was not
> accessible at all (record not found).
>
> I tried to build a new database and import the old entries but the
> problems remained.  Before that, I used Garlic several times to repair the
> database file.
>
> Are there other possibilities to get a non-currupt database ?

You can try using ADBIO from the SUPER site to dump and then reload the appt
database. It'll probably crash the dump program, but there's always a chance
that it's more robust than the built-in database and can recover or skip the
bad record. Then reload the dumped file back into a new appt database.

- Longden

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I think that David Sargeant wrote a utility to do that, see
www.accessnv.com/~davidsa (?)
- RS

allen solof wrote:

> is there a command you can use in a batch file to detect whether a
> flashcard is in the A: drive or not?
>
> Why?
> cuz I want to backup the C: drive to a flashcard using a batch file that
> is started by an appointment each night.  And if I forget to put the
> flashcard in the drive then I would like the batch file to abort.
>
> If you use a command like DIR A:\ then is there a way to intercept the
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Thats not a smart phone. Very few manufacturers of smart phones
are going to use WinCE.

In message  <001601bda3ea$eee0da30$0000167a@bernie>, btorbik@earthlink.net said:
> I hate to disappoint you, but Ericsson already has a GSM phone with infrared
> modem that connects to an MC-16 (rebadged HP360LX) WinCE 2.0 machine. Psion
><snip the baloney>

> -----Original Message-----
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> Brendan Macmillan
> Sent:   29 June, 1998 21:32
> To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:        Psion Symbian
>
> Psion is teaming up with Nokia, Ericsson and Motorola!
>
> It seems that have a smart-phone in mind, which will probably beat
> WinCE well and good.
>
>
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au   http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
> Voice +61 03  9905 5194                law thesis: Ecommerce impersonation
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> where I am not understood, it shall be concluded, that something very
> useful and profound is coucht underneath." -- Jonathan Swift
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> <hey keep those tomatoes to yourself>

Yes, please do! <G>...

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> I hate to disappoint you, but Ericsson already has a GSM phone with =
infrared
> modem that connects to an MC-16 (rebadged HP360LX) WinCE 2.0 machine. =
Psion
> is a business necessity for them because of the European market, but
> Ericsson and anyone else who's not myopic can see that embedded systems,
> web-tv, Palm PCs, Auto PCs, handhelds and subnotebooks will all account =
for
> a huge market largely dominated by WinCE. Sorry...

Nah! I won't respond <G>...

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Chris:

> True, but only if a screen (front or back) light was installed in such
> a manner so it was always on.  Every illuminated LCD screen I've seen =
has
> an operator control,

I agree with this design requirement. The user can then make
their own choices exchanging battery life for illumination.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Yeah, yeah... So it's been awhile since I took physics...   I was THINKING wavelength...

 ---- you wrote:
> > Well, I have a V-Tech 900MHz (mHz would be millihertz, and that's a fun
> > frequency to play with, but not one you'd want to have near your head...
> > Think microwaves)
>
> One millihertz . . . one thousandth of a cycle per second . . . one
> thousand seconds per cycle . . . wavelength of 300,000,000 kilometers
>


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On 06-29 12:58pm, was written-}

# Mark:
# > Yeah, but then your letting Avi off the hook..  <g>
#
# Maybe you did not notice, but I get on and OFF the hook
# easily, even without generous help. The point is this: The
# numbers then quoted were off by a lot, a great deal lot. I
# will not divulge the numbers I have. That's it, semantics
# notwithstanding. I won't classify precisely by how much off,
# because I simply cannot give the number to you or the list
# without breaking a promise I made. That is really all there is
# to it.
#   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
#


Note the <g> after the sentence, Avi.  Was meant in fun, period.
Regards,
mark beutler                                     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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Still tinkering w/ my 200LX but dusted off my 100LX (my backup) and wondered
how much I could upgrade it w/o spending an arm and a leg.

It's a 1 meg, unmodified ÝS/N SG3470055, I know lots of you know if I'm
sunk, or not, by the S/N and it reports Version 1.04 A, in the BIOS dept¨.

Recently, it had some sort of low btty trauma and would not respond to any
sort of btty removal, three fingered salute, external power etc. and so I
pulled the btty's and left it in a drawer for a few weeks ... it's better
now!  I guess something REALLY needed to "forget".

Anyway, after only entering my name in the owner data, I checked the filer
data.  There's only 333,824 KB avail. with NOTHING loaded... I don't imagine
I could do well w/ this!  ÝÝwhen I have to resort to "emergency mode" I run
w/ a memory/modem card...¨¨.

What sorts of (especially memory) upgrades could I do w/ no or LOW amounts
of solder...?

TIA

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Hi All,

I liked your short funny, Cathy:

< What crashed at Roswell was actually a very early version of
Windows.>

That explains why, with all that broken glass around, subsequent
versions of Windows have been described as "painless" (paneless)!

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

PS.  Not applicable to mainframes.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:04:24 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Hard to read this message without quote, can't tell which message belongs to
whom. Hope you can solve your email problem.

Cheers!
Jien Hung

At 08:54 AM 29/6/98 -0500, Al Chin wrote:
>Hey guys;
>"I realize I am turning into an anacronism, but nowadays if
>I express a novel idea, I like to use the blackboard! I
>suppose I am evolving backwards."
>Paul:
>
>I recently moved into a new office, and had to fuss real loudly to get a
>blackboard installed instead of the newer white board.  I just love to
>use real chalk - so much better than those squeaky, stinky markers and
>a board that doesn't completely erase without even smellier solvents...
>Chris
>
>That's real oxy ain't it new ideas on an old blackboard.
>Where did you borrow the blue ideas from?
>
>Old africa proverb: strong as an oak, flexi like bamboo
>if yu don't bend wit the wind, you'll break agin it.
>Only absolutes in life is change and death,
>One is a process leading to the udder.
>
>Yor pal al .....................
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:15:25 -0700
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I just located my 5 1/4 diskettes & OEM shrink wrapped manuals for dBASE IV
 also have MS OFFFICE 4.0  in 3 1/2" format (WfW 6, Excel 4, Powerpoint)
and DOS 6. 0 w/ 6.2 upgrade, a CalComp WIZ serial port digitizer tablet w/
puck & pen,  WIN 3.0 and VERSACAD drivers, Using VersaCad (Fuller manual),
tablet templates & manuals.  All orig mfgr disks & books.  QUE books for
Autocad R12, Excel 4, Osborne WfW 6 Q&A; NRP: ACAD R. 12 prof ref.,
Software Toolworks "Chessmaster 3000" in shrinkwrap, US & WORLD Atlas for
DOS w/ books, Autodesk HOME 1.0 & 2.0, HPLX 95 manuals.   Writer's toolkit
(Windows)

looking for a 95LX-200LX in good shape; my 95 demised (decompiled?), at a
reasonable price.>

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>  What crashed at Roswell was actually a very early version of Windows.
<g>
<encouragement>

--
Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au   http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:39:53 -0400 (EDT)

01h56s ago ...
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> It's a 1 meg, unmodified ÝS/N SG3470055, I know lots of you know if I'm
> sunk, or not, by the S/N and it reports Version 1.04 A, in the BIOS =
dept¨.

Same as my faithful old palmtop  8-)

> Anyway, after only entering my name in the owner data, I checked the =
filer
> data.  There's only 333,824 KB avail. with NOTHING loaded...

Not surprising.  640K is used for system RAM.  Then there are the files
in c:\_dat that are created on startup. Your count sounds about right.

> What sorts of (especially memory) upgrades could I do w/ no or LOW =
amounts
> of solder...?

AFAIK the only upgrade for the old 1MB 100LX is the dbl-speed crystal.
Desoldering & soldering are definitely required!

-PR
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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:02:54 -0500
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I thought that the U.S. Alabama is a nuclear boomer submarine.  Does the
Navy 'recycle' ships' names?  My background is as a ground pounder in
the Army and not a Squid, so I may have been misinformed.


R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> Okay, I want to submit myself for inclusion on the "MUP" list... This
> weekend, I worked on a C program whilst berthed on the bottom of a three
> tiered suspended bunk bed deep within the bowels of a South Dakota class,
> WW-II battleship, the U.S.S. Alabama.
>
> Despite all our technology advances over the years, I bet my palmtop
> still couldn't crank out the 16inch gun fire control solutions as fast
> as the spectacular mechanical/analog computer located in the "plotting"
> room of the ship. (Now, maybe my pentium desktop probably could...).
>
> -Chris
>
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On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Rick Schwaiger wrote:

> I thought that the U.S. Alabama is a nuclear boomer submarine.  Does the
> Navy 'recycle' ships' names?  My background is as a ground pounder in
> the Army and not a Squid, so I may have been misinformed.

The U.S.S. Alabama is a WWII ship. I have had my 200LX on it but did not
use it while onboard. It is quite an interesting attraction to see. While
there you can also visit the U.S.S. Drum which was a submarine from the
same time frame. The submarine I believe you are speaking of was from the
movie 'Crimson Tide'. My favorite line in the movie was when the sailors
were lined up on the dock getting ready to board the ship, the captain
was giving a speach and at the end thay all in unison shout "Roll Tide!"
Being a University of Alabama fa, that did my heart good <grin>.

On the subject of the cop killer we have loose here in central Alabama,
he's still not caught, but there are now approx 750 law enforcement
agents working in the area. He's either hiding in a damn good location or
he is sitting somewhere in Georgia watching all of this on television.
The officers here, including myself, are determined to keep searching
until he's caught, all leads exhausted or the SOB dies of heat exhaustion
out in the woods <g>.

Sorry to waste the bandwidth on non-LX subjects, but hey, were are all
one big happy family aren't we? =)

Jeff

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Hello to the List,

On Tuesday, 30 June 1998, Timothy Raymond wrote:-

< Still tinkering w/ my 200LX but dusted off my 100LX (my backup) and
wondered how much I < could upgrade it w/o spending an arm and a leg.

There was a brief period when Hewlett Packard was offering an upgrade
on local (USA) 100LXs, just before the introduction of the 200LX, I
think.  It was a strictly limited offer and, for some reason, not open
to foreign owners, even if you sent your unit return postage prepaid.
So at least a certain number of machines were capable of being
upgraded.

Then there was an article in the Palmtop Paper about an unofficial
upgrade being performed in Japan.  I wrote to the Paper seeking
details but got no reply.  My 100LX is marked SG33301086, and I never
found out whether a memory upgrade would be possible but I might even
yet consider it.

I hope this helps to stir some memories.

Although I now also have a 8Mb double-speed 200LX, the recent
acquisition of a 48Mb flashcard which can be used in the 100LX has
made me rethink about my 100LX as the primary unit and the 200LX as
the backup and to be saved for that rainy day.  I do also find the two
units very useful when operated conjunction, particularly when
upgrading/correcting spreadsheets because the original data can be
maintained and displayed simultaneously on one screen while the
changes are made on the other.  Then there is no confusion as to what
was changed, nor do I have to remember or write down the original
data; and if a mistake is found a bit later, the original data are
there on the other machine.

I actually prefer the 100LX.  Admittedly the different shade of the
screen display is a personal preference for me, but did you know that
in the database-type functions there is on the 200LX one line less in
both the horizontal and vertical display?  For those of you with both
machines, try the Phone Book and see for yourself.

The keyboard is clearer on the 100LX because of the greater contrast
between the background colour and the keys and also because the
letters themselves are bolder, broader and upright.  Not only that, on
my 100LX the lettering for things like "ZOOM" and "HOME" is bigger and
in a more contrasting colour, while there are some 18 additional
printing symbols for items such as accents, sterling and degrees
(which I use a lot).  Sometimes when using my 200LX I have to open up
my 100LX to find out just where these extra symbols are on the
keyboard.

So, as Timothy Raymond did, dust off your old 100LX and think about
putting it to good use.  Also, there are potential users down in this
part of the world still looking for a good 100LX deal, the two
problems to be overcome being the current low value of our dollar and
the extra shipping cost, though mailing by sea would cut the latter
for those prepared to wait.

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:16:39 EDT
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Hi to all!  I used to be part of the palmtop forum on Compuserve, but
fell on hard times for awhile.  Lost my HP-100LX, recently bought a new
HP 200LX and the upgraded connectivity pack.  What a joy to be
palmtopping again!

It's very gratifying to know that Lotus Agenda, my favorite PIM, is now
copyrighted freeware, available to all HP palmtop owners.  I'm wondering
if you also know that INMAGIC PLUS for DOS, one of the leading textbase
software packages of the mid- to late-1980s, is also available on the Web
as copyrighted freeware.  This package, which used to cost $1250  (that's
correct, there is no decimal point in there), runs just fine on the
palmtop, and is useful for all kinds of databasing

A couple of items on MSNBC during the last several days caught my
attention:  The first, an article entitled "But will you curl up in bed
with it?" by Angela Hickman, details new hand-held electronic books being
brought to market by NuvoMedia and SoftBook Press.  Will somebody please
tell NBC about Vertical Reader and Project Gutenberg?  Where have these
guys been?

The second item was entitled "DOS is alive and well . . ." by Gary
Krakow.  It seems that Brother has decided to bring out a mini-notebook
running under GEOS  (remember this?)  I mean, can you imagine anyone
having the gall to bring out a product that doesn't bow to Microsoft?  I
think we should applaud this development.

Finally, Caselogic has a very nice padded vinyl case for PDAs for under
$20 that fits the HP 200LX like a glove and doesn't look too shabby after
several months wear.

Thanks to Mitch Hamm and the developers who are keeping this platform
alive, and three cheers to Curtis Cameron for a nifty game of blackjack.

-roger-

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