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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 03:58:10 -0400
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To any of you who follow the Jewish traditions of calendaring,
this is my first post in the year 5781! And so I wish you all,
observant or not, followers or not, a wonderful New Year! :-)
...

And I got this in email, and I like it enough to post it...
Enjoy..

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Dear Lord:

May we get a clean bill of health from our dentist, our
psychiatrist, our ophthalmologist, our cardiologist, our
gastroenterologist, our urologist, our proctologist, our
gynecologist, our podiatrist, our plumber and the IRS.

May our hair, our teeth, our facelift, our Abs, our honey
cakes, and our stocks not fall, And may our blood pressure,
our triglycerides, our cholesterol, and our white blood count,
our weight and our mortgage interest rates not rise.

May we find a way to travel from anywhere to anywhere in the
rush hour in less than an hour and when we get there, may we
find a parking space.

May we all relax about the third millennium of the common era,
and realize that we still have 239 years until the down of the
sixth millennium of the true Hebrew calendar by which time the
computer will be long since obsolete and so will we.

May G-d give us the strength to get through this presidential
campaign and may some of the promises made be kept.

May we believe at least half of what the candidates propose
and may those elected fulfill at least half of what they
promise and may the miracle of reducing taxes and balancing
budgets come to pass.

May we be awe-struck by G-d's sense of humor as we realize
that a professional wrestler could have become president of
the United States and that an orthodox Jew has risen to
prominence in American politics while remaining true to his
Jewish roots. (It is my belief that G-d's joyous humor is the
reason he really does not want us to touch our toes while
exercising or he would have put them further up our bodies;
and, the reason so many of us take up jogging is to hear heavy
breathing again.)

May what we see in the mirror delight us, and what others see
in us, delight them. May someone, as well as G-d, love us
enough to forgive our faults, be blind to our blemishes and
tell the world about our virtues.

May the telemarketers wait until after we finish dinner to
call us.

May our checkbooks and budgets balance and may they include
generous amounts for charity.

May we remember to say, "I love you" at least once a day to
our spouse, our child, our parent, all of our significant
others but not our boss, our intern, our nurse, our masseur,
our hairdresser or our tennis instructor.

And may the Messiah come this year, and if he does not, may we
live as if he has, in a world at peace, with awareness of
G-d's love in every sunset, flower, baby's smile, lover's
kiss, and every wonderful astonishing beat of our heart.


L'Shana Tova.

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:43:30 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Jim Gilbert wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know where I can obtain ascii characters that are not part
> > of the standard set? Characters like a line that rises to the right at
> > 30 degrees, not 45 degrees, and math symbols.
>
> If an ascii table in a browser window is good enough, go to:
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~plangford/ascii.html
>
> If you need it as a program that prints the table on the display of your
> LX, then you might want to look at Simtel (the DOS archive), or a
> programmer on the list could probably whip up such a program within a
> couple of minutes or so ;-)

Load Stefan Peichl's LXPRO as TSR and the ASCII table as well as other
features are only a few keystrokes away.

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 08:31:36 -0500
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 > Steve, I tried your idea but it doesn't work because the BAT file
ends
 > at the ctrl-Z which is the end of file character for DOS.

I think I remember that there is a /A param for the copy command
that tells it you have an ASCII file and to deal properly with the
control Z.  I've used that but now I can't remember exactly what it
does.

Am I losing my knowlege of DOS?  What a frightening thought!  :)

Barry

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> Does anyone know where I can obtain ascii characters
> that are not part of the standard set? Characters like a
> line that rises to the right at 30 degrees, not 45 degrees,
> and math symbols.

This can be done with a little effort on the 200lx.  I haven't done
this on the LX but I have done it (many years ago) with DOS
computers.  The font's are in ROM but there are pointers to those
fonts that can be changed.  There is a mode command param (codepage=
I think, but look it up) that will let you change those pointers.
You also have to have a way to install the font in that codepage.  A
codepage is just a 256 byte area of your memory.

I think some utilities have been written to do this for the 200lx.
I know there are alternate fonts available.  Probably font editors
and installation utilities as well.   See if you can find them at
the 200lx download site.  I haven't used these but I do remember
seeing them.

If you cant find them there are similar utilities at places like
simtelnet and jumbo to do the same thing.

You can also do the same thing with your printer if you want to
print these out, although I'm sure there are easier ways to do that.

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:56:35 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Longden,
My model number is "3760-B2-261 A".  It does cause a "card battery low"
message when inserted but that goes away when ESC is pressed.  It has a
special phone cord which plugs into the end of the modem card; not as
convienent as an Xjack which uses normal RJ11 phone connections.

I did a short online test last night, using AC power, and it didn't seem
to get warm but I didn't use it for long.

Thanks for your comments.  I guess I won't sell mine to an LX user.
I'll keep it to trade someday to a laptop user where the power won't be
such an issue.

For Sale/Trade: Anyone need a 14.4 PCMCIA modem for a laptop that could
be used in a 200LX in an emergency?  Contact me off list if interested.

Cheers... Russ


Longden Loo wrote:
> I believe that's the same modem I once had (my first for the 200LX) and while it
> worked on the LX, the power drain was marginally high.
>
> I determined it was 165ma (online .... and 10ma sleep) based on a website (now
> defunct) with modem power info.  As I said, the modem worked, but it drew a
> "battery low" message whenever it was inserted and had other light-dimming
> aspects about it .... most prominent of all being the limited time it was able
> to operate on battery power.
>
> On AC, it was capable, but got a lot warmer than I was comfortable with.
>
> My modem was model 3760-b2, and I don't recall the word "Express" on the modem,
> tho it's been a while since I sold it .... so don't ass-u-me that the above
> applies to your modem.  It had a dongle (which I hated) and various pink and
> blue colors ... if that's any help.

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:23:07 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Tim Kelley wrote:

> I could establish an irda connection via www/lx but i was under the
> impression that it acted as a modem, like the webphones.  Does anyone know
> if this is true.  I could never dial with it.

Hi Tim

You mean a 8890? There is no 8290 (yet:-)

The 8890 is a dual band 900/_1900_. AFAIK the 8890 has built in modem
and irdaport as the 8850/8210. Several members of this list use
8210/7110 with Www/Lx for email/news/sms.

I use a 7110

Regards

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:23:12 -0400
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:16:42 -0400, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>
> > does anyone here use a DSL onnection to the internet with the palmtop?
>
> I have not actually used DSL, but I have something very similar
> set up at home.  I have a 3COM LAN Modem which is a DHCP
> server, network hub and 56K modem together in one box.  When
> one of my desktop's on the network at home wants to go online,
> somehow automagically, it contacts the LAN modem, the modem
> dials the ISP and then the computer is on the Internet.  This
> works for all four of my Win95/98 computers at home.

This is exactly what happens here also. I have my Hplx connected to a
hub. Then I have Win 98SE with Internet sharing enabled.

If the Hplx or any other computers connected to the net wants to go
online the Win98 machine connects to the internet through the
isdnadapter which is built in to the isdnphone I have connected to the
comport on the pc.

> I can plug a network card into the 200LX and do the exact same
> thing when going online with WWW/LX.  The palmtop gets it's IP
> address and gateway info from the DHCP and so then it uses the
> LAN modem to access the Internet.  Works great and is faster
> then using an external modem on COM1 of the palmtop.

Yes it is. I had to use a V34 modem for a couple of days and I realised
how fast the ethernet/isdn connection really was.

> I suspect a DSL modem would work in very much the same way. The
> computers on the network with the DSL modem would see it as the
> gateway to the Internet.  Just make sure you have the ability
> to have multiple computers access the DLS modem - some of them
> are for single computers only.

Win98SE or better have internetsharing.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway


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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:29:26 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Sun,  1 Oct 2000 19:22:50 +0200, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Hi Tim
>
> You mean a 8890? There is no 8290 (yet:-)

Oh yes it is :-)

I checked the Nokiausa.com website and found a 8210 or the Us market
called 8290.

> The 8890 is a dual band 900/_1900_. AFAIK the 8890 has built in modem
> and irdaport as the 8850/8210. Several members of this list use
> 8210/7110 with Www/Lx for email/news/sms.

The 8290 is a singleband (1900) with the same features as the 8890
(built in modem and irda)

Sorry for the mistake. You should be able to use the 8290 without
problems(not completely without=rf noise problem( with your Hplx

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I am maybe looking to purchase one of these units (if I can find one). I =
have a few questions, if you could help me out.

1) which cell phone does it work with. I live in MA
2) Is there much difference between the 200LX and 700LX
3) Any sites out the what have a picture/specs on the 700LX
4) Anyone have an experience with this unit?
5) Is it too bulk to carry around

Thanks all!!!

Lou G
loug@gftech.com

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:51:22 -0700
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Is there an update to the 200LX Pocket Quicken? I am trying to keep =
track of stock quotes/purchases (I have been using Quicken 2000 on WIN =
98, but now I want to be a bit more mobile).

Or has anyone heard of a good stock tracking program that works on the =
200LX?

Thanks

Lou G.
loug@gftech.com

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:39:48 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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              Staber" at Oct 01, 2000 10:43:30 AM
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just a nit-picky comment...

> > > Does anyone know where I can obtain ascii characters that are not part
> > > of the standard set?

If a character is not part of the standard ascii character set, it is
not, by definition, an ascii character.  Technically, you have requested
nothing - a null set.

Just playing semantics...

-Chris Lott

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3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
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I'm not sure if this was mentioned here or not. There was some interest in a
pdf to text converter but since I didn't need one at the time I didn't pay
close attention.  Now I do need it, and here is what I found.  Just email
your pdf file as an attachment to either of these addreses. I have just
tested on a 120 K PDF file and it worked great.

You can send PDF documents as email attachments to:
    pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu <mailto:pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu> -- for
plain text.
    pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu <mailto:pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu> --  for
HTML.


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luigi Giovanetti=20
  To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:51 PM
  Subject: Pocket Quicken on 200LX?


  Is there an update to the 200LX Pocket Quicken? I am trying to keep =
track of stock quotes/purchases (I have been using Quicken 2000 on WIN =
98, but now I want to be a bit more mobile).

  Or has anyone heard of a good stock tracking program that works on the =
200LX?

  Thanks

  Lou G.
  loug@gftech.com


  Quicken stopped supporting Pocket Quicken several years ago. There is =
no update available.  I track stocks using Lotus 123.



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200LX?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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Pocket Quicken? I=20
  am trying to keep track of stock quotes/purchases (I have been using =
Quicken=20
  2000 on WIN 98, but now I want to be a bit more mobile).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Or has anyone heard of a good stock =
tracking=20
  program that works on the 200LX?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lou G.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:loug@gftech.com">loug@gftech.com</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Quicken stopped supporting Pocket =
Quicken several=20
  years ago. There is no update available.&nbsp; I track stocks using =
Lotus=20
  123.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Avi,

Thanks for sharing this and happy new year. I hope this will
prove to be a good one for you.

I enjoyed reading the post and I am going to pass this along to
some friends.

William E. Blankenship

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              Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
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I've been following this thread with interest...the problem with VR is that
you have to hold the palmtop - you can't set it down and just push page
down or whatever.  And it's uncomfortable to hold that way for any length
of time for people with pain in their hands.

What do I do?  Sometimes if it's a long document I convert it to html or
Palm format and use the appropriate LX readers with large fonts.  (That's
my preferred way for stuff I access a lot.) I also sometimes use Dart,
which should be able to be found on Simtel and which has configurable
windows.  Sometimes I use that plain old stand-by List for quick viewing -
and if it's a long document, just split the window and jump back in. (Half
a List page is perfect in the 2nd zoom mode.)  There is also a text browser
built in QShel100 (? - I think that's the name) called broswe100.com which
isn't too bad.

I'd buy an HR.

Terry


At 10:40 PM 09/29/2000 +0200, Axel Klag wrote:
>
>You nailed it! That's exactly what I wanted to answer! <g>.-
>But beside
>that, seriously, reading texts with the VR on the HP is much less hard for
the eyes
>than in horizontal mode and the HP is better to hold in one hand, flipping
>pages with Your thumb on the space-key.- Another masterpiece of software for
>the HP!
>
>Axel

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Hello,

I'm selling a really nice parallel port zip drive on eBay. Please check t=
he
link below if you're interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D456304734

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Terry Owen wrote:
>
> I've been following this thread with interest...the problem with VR is that
> you have to hold the palmtop - you can't set it down and just push page
> down or whatever.  And it's uncomfortable to hold that way for any length
> of time for people with pain in their hands.
>
(I edited some stuff)
> I'd buy an HR.
>
> Terry
>
>
This is exactly what I was trying to get at when I asked the
original question about what to use. If I make the font large
enough in VR to be comfortable for me, the lines of text are very
short because of the vertical orientation, and a lot of eye
movement is required to read. I'd prefer the horizontal format
with that same font, giving fewer lines of course, but longer
ones that would be easier to read. Also, in horizontal mode you
can set the machine down, and prop the screen at that perfect
angle, which I like for hands free reading.  I have been using
List in horizontal mode. Either of the zoomed HP fonts is OK for
me, but of course list has no idea that you are doing that and it
looks bad. I tried quickview, but it is a system manager
application, and I have been straight DOS up until now.
(BTW, I'm solving the problem by getting progressive bifocals!)
Bryan

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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Barry wrote:

> I think I remember that there is a /A param for the copy command
> that tells it you have an ASCII file and to deal properly with the
> control Z.  I've used that but now I can't remember exactly what it
> does.

/A is for ASCII text copy and /B is for a binary copy.
The default is indeterminate or difficult to remember.
Copying to the PRN device is ASCII by default (I think.)
Copying to a disk is weird.  Sometimes it's binary, and
sometimes it's text.  (Version differences?  Extension
dependent?)

A holdover from CP/M, the text copy will copy a file
up to the end of file marker, and nothing after.  As
CP/M didn't specify file sizes in bytes, but only in
sectors, this was required to clean up the end of text
(and other) files.  As MS-DOS specifies the length of
files to the exact byte, this handling is only necessary
when copying from the CON device, where you need some
way to tell the system where your input ends.

HTH

Steve

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> And I got this in email, and I like it enough to post it...
> Enjoy..

Thank you, Avi.  That was good.

I hope it's ok that I passed it on to a couple of people.

Happy New Year

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 3 Oct 2000 02:06:27 +0200
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Hi!
Is there a way to get in the web with a HP LX 95?
Thanks for your answers,

so long,
Christoph
--
You're looking for real cool DOS stuff?
Here it is:
 www.drdos.net (english)
other (all in german):
 www.docdos.de
 www.opendos.de
 www.drdos.de

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Date:         Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:00:47 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Since there was no "FLUFF" on the original post by Avi, i won't designate
one now either.

it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best, but i want to add a
timely warning considering the religious violence presently flaring in
Jerusalem.

>To any of you who follow the Jewish traditions of calendaring...observant
>or not, followers or not

religious violence is caused by just such religious "traditions of
calendaring...observant or not, followers or not" for they make distinctions
between people based on pseudoscientific non-human qualities (religion). Ask
both Palestinians/Muslims and Jews, and they will swear that God stands
behind
their bloody actions.

it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best, but i question the source
of the initiative

Nathalie
humanist and fan of Carl Sagan

ps. all replies/comments to me please, not to the list
please keep this list religion-free; the HP LX had its roots in science, one
of its creator-forerunners being Barney Oliver, collegue of Carl Sagan and
co-founder of the SETI Institute, both humanists and affiliated with SCICOP
(scientific investigation of claims of the paranormal)

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Dear Nathalie "Sinaid O'Conner" Bugeaud <G>:

From your private messaging with you I knew, of course of your
anti-religious feelings and sentiment. So your reaction is not
surprising to me, and I hope not terribly shocking to others.

I will designate my post FLUFF but will refrain from public
discussion about religions, religious beliefs, and so on. It
is simply not appropriate, IMHO, even in a Fluff-designated
post. To me religion is private, at most discussable
one-on-one. That is one way to keep tyranny out of religion.

I am sure you and I will have a delightful go at this in
private emails, and I am looking forward to it.

All the best!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> Since there was no "FLUFF" on the original post by Avi, i won't designate
> one now either.
>
> it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best, but i want to add a
> timely warning considering the religious violence presently flaring in
> Jerusalem.
>
> >To any of you who follow the Jewish traditions of calendaring...observant
> >or not, followers or not
>
> religious violence is caused by just such religious "traditions of
> calendaring...observant or not, followers or not" for they make distinctions
> between people based on pseudoscientific non-human qualities (religion). Ask
> both Palestinians/Muslims and Jews, and they will swear that God stands
> behind
> their bloody actions.
>
> it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best, but i question the source
> of the initiative
>
> Nathalie
> humanist and fan of Carl Sagan
>
> ps. all replies/comments to me please, not to the list
> please keep this list religion-free; the HP LX had its roots in science, one
> of its creator-forerunners being Barney Oliver, collegue of Carl Sagan and
> co-founder of the SETI Institute, both humanists and affiliated with SCICOP
> (scientific investigation of claims of the paranormal)
>
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Is there a list behind the list ?
 I found this on the NNTP

İ snip-edited / not editorialized ¨
Message-ID: <39D109D2.1DD2800A@attglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:40:50 -0700
From: Ken İ snip-edited / not editorialized ¨
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 İen¨ (X11; U; Linux 2.2.15-4mdk i586)
X-Accept-Language: en
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Newsgroups:
alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,comp.sys.palmtops,symantec.support.pda.act.hplxp
almtop.general,comp.sys.handhelds
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: FS: HP200LX 1MB
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        For sale: HP 200LX 1MB w/ User's Guide, AC adapter, Serial cable,
PCCard modem (Megahertz Xjack 14400)

        $100 obo

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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Nathalie wrote

> it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best, but i want to add a =
> timely warning considering the religious violence presently flaring in =
> Jerusalem.
>

> religious violence is caused by just such religious "traditions of > =
calendaring...observant or not, followers or not" for they make distinctio=
ns > between people based on pseudoscientific non-human qualities (religio=
n).



May I qoute the Jungian psychoanalyst Edward C Whitmont from
his book The Symbolic Quest:Basic Concepts of Analytical
Psychology:




"Our culture is logical directed,but concerning our most basic
problems rational logic can't give sufficient answers...


...Some of the results in this world of this one-sided emphasis
is indivdual and collective neurosis,which always are a latent
danger of explosive outbursts.Addiction to alcohol,drugs and
psychedelics expresses also a seeking for emotional experiences
which have been lost in the course of our extreme intellectualism....

...The disparaging and neglecting of sense and intuition in aid of  logic =
and reason has left the western human with
unsufficient developed conscious resources to orient herself in
the inner psychic world,and what is not developed consciously
remain primitive and may pose a threat...

...it is very hard for the intellectuals of our time to find a
way out from the unbalansed psychic situation they are in"


Jung himself meant that people who only emphasised their
rational logic may very well get emotionally mutilated.


Wasn't that we saw during ww2 in Auschwitz?


Scientists like Josef Mengele,have the world ever beholded such
coldblooded and ruthless monsters?


> it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best, but i question the =
source > of the initiative
>


Yes,and it is indeed nice of you to "enlighten" us,but as you  yourself =
seem to be  a priest of the new religion called rationalism,I question =
the source of the initiative...


Yours Sincerely

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden.

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Ok who did not make the payment ?
Earlier on this list,
the de-cloacked Instigatrice claimed she was paid to keep quiet !

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000 02:51:03 -0400 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> Dear Nathalie "Sinaid O'Conner" Bugeaud <G>:

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FLUFF WARNING...

I have a very nice Imega 2gb Jaz drive for sale on eBay. It won't work on=

your lx but you may find it useful on your desktop machine. If you're
interested check out the link below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D457273317

Have a great day!
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Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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In-Reply-To:  <200010030712_MC2-B57D-DD66@compuserve.com> from "Tom Salwasser"
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> I have a very nice Imega 2gb Jaz drive for sale on eBay. It won't work on
> your lx but you may find it useful on your desktop machine. If you're
> interested check out the link below.

I'm interested in pursuing the comment about not running on an LX.  First,
I am about to purchase an external 2G Jazz drive, which will primarily
be used with my Windows desktop/laptop computer.  I had originally wanted
one that worked over the parallel port (like my ZIP drive), but was told
by the computer store clerk that don't make the Jazz with this interface.
I presume the interface is a SCSI PCMCIA card.

Was there not some discussion awhile back about being able to operate a
SCSI PCMCIA card in your palmtop?  If so, would this make possible the
use of such an external Jazz drive?  I would be willing to limit my
operation to DoubleSlot (w/external power supply) if necessary because
of excess current draw.

Anyone used PCMCIA SCSI with their palmtop?
Anyone hooked up a Jazz drive?  I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop
just fine.  Having Jazz capability would be a real hoot.

-Chris Lott

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Tue,  3 Oct 2000 08:55:36 -0500 (EST)

List Manager's Opinion:

"Best Wishes", regardless of religious origin(or lack thereof) are
always welcome on this LIST! Perhaps if there were more "Best Wishes"
and less questioning of motovation, the world would be a more pleasent
place.

(please direct all comments to my personal mail, THANKS!)

Cheers...
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Subject:      Re: Internet with HP LX 95
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Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE> wrote:

> Is there a way to get in the web with a HP LX 95?

Only with some kind of text-based browser.  HV (part of D&A's
WWW/LX package) won't work on the 95LX because the 95 has a
special graphics mode not upward compatable with the 100/200LX.

Maybe it is time for an upgrade? <grin>


Stan

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Subject:      Re: DSL with the palmtop?
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Martin Bergvill <martin@mobilpost.com> wrote:

> This is exactly what happens here also. I have my Hplx connected to a
> hub. Then I have Win 98SE with Internet sharing enabled

I have not tried Win98SE's Internet sharing stuff yet.  I have
heard very mixed reviews about it.  You might want to check out
www.nat32.com for a product to do sharing that is supposed to
be much better than the Win98 built-in stuff.

> Win98 machine connects to the internet through the
> isdnadapter which is built in to the isdnphone I have connected to the
> comport on the pc

I considered getting an ISDN line, but they did not become very
popular in my area before cable modems and DSL came along.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:57:47 -0400
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On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:48:49 -0700, Luigi Giovanetti <loug@gftech.com> =
wrote:

 > I am maybe looking to purchase one of these units (if I can find one). =
I have a few questions, if you could help me out.
 >
 > 1) which cell phone does it work with. I live in MA

The HP 700LX works with the Nokia 2110 and compatible phones (with
compatible I mean the size, shape and connector). In the U.S., I
believe the 2190 is the one that works in the 700LX.


 > 2) Is there much difference between the 200LX and 700LX

The software is the same, except that the 700LX has fax and SMS
software and can use the phonebook to dial a phone number on the
GSM phone.


 > 3) Any sites out the what have a picture/specs on the 700LX

I believe we have a picture on our web site, www.rundel.net/palmtop
and then follow the links to spec sheets of DOS palmtops.


 > 4) Anyone have an experience with this unit?

I used it for a couple of months, but gave up because it is just too
big for my taste. You would probably be better off with a 200LX and
one of the new GSM phones with built-in modem and IR, for example
the Siemens S35 and the Nokia 8210. WWW/LX supports infrared
connections to these and a few other phones. I use this setup
myself and love it - no cables, no PC cards, no hassles.

 > 5) Is it too bulk to carry around

IMO, yes. It was a great machine, but way too big and heavy.

Tom
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Salwasser" <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:12 AM
Subject: FLUFF: OT: FS: 2gb Jaz Drive


FLUFF WARNING...

I have a very nice Imega 2gb Jaz drive for sale on eBay. It won't work on
your lx but you may find it useful on your desktop machine. If you're
interested check out the link below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=457273317

Have a great day!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
I had originally wanted
> one that worked over the parallel port (like my ZIP drive), but was told
> by the computer store clerk that don't make the Jazz with this interface.
> I presume the interface is a SCSI PCMCIA card.


They do make a Jaz Drive with a Parallel port interface. I know...I had one
about a year ago.  I ended up swapping it for an internal drive and having
an internal drive installed on the destination computer.

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Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> Anyone used PCMCIA SCSI with their palmtop?
> Anyone hooked up a Jazz drive?  I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop
> just fine.  Having Jazz capability would be a real hoot

I think the problem with a SCSI card in the palmtop was one of
power (although the doubleslot would fix that), but also of
drivers.  It may be tough to get DOS 5 drivers for the card
that do not require a 386 or better processor and lots of
memory.  Even if you could find the drivers, you may not have
much RAM left for running applications.

I would like to suggest an alternative that I use.  I have a
2GB ORB drive on my desktop PC that I can access very easily
with my palmtop when I put a network card in my 200LX and
access the shared drive on the PC.

I can map a drive letter on the 200LX to the shared resource on
the desktop.  The network drivers are not too big and the
network card does not draw too much power that I need a double
slot (but I do use an AC adapter).

It is rather cool to be surfing the 2GB removable media with
the palmtop's Filer.  Of course, none of this is portable
because of the desktop, but the same setup with a notebook
sharing a Jazz drive would be.


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> This is exactly what I was trying to get at when I asked the
> original question about what to use. If I make the font large
> enough in VR to be comfortable for me, the lines of text are very
> short because of the vertical orientation, and a lot of eye
> movement is required to read. I'd prefer the horizontal format
> with that same font, giving fewer lines of course, but longer
> ones that would be easier to read. Also, in horizontal mode you
> can set the machine down, and prop the screen at that perfect
> angle, which I like for hands free reading.  I have been using
İsnip¨

SUPER ( http://palmtop.net/supernew.html ) has a couple of applications you
might try (I haven't tried them myself). Search for BIGED by Hexagon
Products for a large font editor/viewer, and EDITOR by Jack Bellamy, which
contains a couple of large-font viewers.

Bruce in Toronto
(who just had RK surgery and doesn't need the above programs - for now.)

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: FS: 2gb Jaz Drive
In-Reply-To:  <002d01c02d43$1ed66640$7310f4d0@beld.net> from "Ken" at Oct 03,
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> They do make a Jaz Drive with a Parallel port interface. I know...I had one
> about a year ago.  I ended up swapping it for an internal drive and having
> an internal drive installed on the destination computer.

Well, thanks for the data.  That's what I get for trusting the clerk...
I'll try to hunt one down.  That's definitely what I need.

-Chris

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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
Huntsville, Alabama 35805                              FAX: 256-534-9069
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My apologies to the people I had to cut off in mid-map-retrieving, but
my server has to go down for a few hours while the electrical service to
my house is upgraded.

The HPLX-L searchable archives are also offline.

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Avi,

I am under the impression that it's the year 5761. If you add the 239 years
to 5761 you get 6000 - the sixth millennium.

Best wishes either way!



Thanks,

Systems-Consulting
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tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Systems-Consulting wrote:
> Avi,
>
> I am under the impression that it's the year 5761. If you add the 239 years
> to 5761 you get 6000 - the sixth millennium.

OOPS!!! You know - I checked my own post and I am off by 20
years! I wrote 5781 and it is only 5761 according to the
Jewish calendar. I blew it, sorry.

> Best wishes either way!

Thank you, the same to you all others.

For a second there it was like 1531(?) - when people got up
one day and was one date, the next morning they were 11 days
ahead. Some panicked, fearing they will die faster by 11 days!
<G>... Here I made a mistake of 20 years!!! Thankfully, I am
not such a "religious authority" ;-) as the Pope who made that
other "adjustment"...

  Avi

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Who just posted this morning and said they had a parallel port Jazz drive?
Would you please contact me off-list?  I visited my computer wholesaler
this morning (for another reason), and discussed this with them.  They
checked thoroughly, and concluded that if they made one, it was no longer
for sale.  Interestingly, he noted that their parallel port Zip drives
are no longer listed for sale, either.

Hmmmm....

-Chris Lott

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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
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Date:         Tue, 3 Oct 2000 16:10:20 -0400
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>Who just posted this morning and said they had a parallel port Jazz
drive?<

Chris, I have never heard of a parallel port Jaz drive, only SCSI.

Good luck,
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Tom,

Here is the scoop


                            Product Detail
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vendor:      IOMEGA JAZ/ZIP/DITTO
Media:       ACCS
Item:        JAZ TRAVELLER EXT PAR ADAPTER ALLOWS JAZ TO CONNECT TO PC
PPT
Part Number: 729732
Price:       $ 48
Description:
729732         SPECIFICATIONS
KEY SELLING BULLETS
- ALLOWS YOU TO CONNECT YOUR JAZ TO ANY
- PC VIA THE PARALLEL (PRINTER) PORT. ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE YOUR
JAZ DRIVE FROM A MAC TO A PC USING THE PARALLEL PORT(YOU CAN
ALREADY GO FROM PC TO MAC).
SYSTEM AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS
- JAZ DRIVE
BILL OF MATERIALS
- PARALLEL TO SCSI ADAPTER
- CABLE WITH HD50 FOR JAZ DRIVE

Available here

Thanks,

Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Paul Anderson
President
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Subject: Jazz Drive - Parallel Port


>Who just posted this morning and said they had a parallel port Jazz
drive?<

Chris, I have never heard of a parallel port Jaz drive, only SCSI.

Good luck,
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Date:         Tue, 3 Oct 2000 16:45:07 -0500
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Hi Chris, all....

I've used the Jaz Traveler, but not w/ my palmtop. It works fine w/ the
parallel drive of a laptop (quite slow though).

You have to load some drivers from the CD that either comes w/ the Traveler
or the Jaz (can't remember ... I think they BOTH have it for Windows). I
remember doing the Add Hardware wiz-thing and browsing for drivers, getting
a whole SLEW of choices, including the parallel port.

I guess the question will be ... Can the drivers work in DOS (they may have
DOS drivers for the Traveler) *AND* is there room to run the Jaz drivers and
the TransDigital drivers in DOS?  Or, if you can run both, are you able to
run anything else?

BTW, Iomega now makes a USB-to-Jaz (SCSI) cable (that may only work w/ Jaz
... dunno if it would let you go USB-to-all-SCSI), giving you another path
for your laptop.

Now, if someone would make an HPLX-to-USB adapter!!! <drool> (I know, "It's
called a 'laptop' in the middle" <g> ... but I'd prefer a smaller adapter).

Good luck!

--tim

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Public Relations, Media Relations, Corporate Training
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Date:         Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:58:36 -0500
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Hi All,

Well, I'm at it again....

Saw something on the list, a few days ago, about printing from the HPLX to
the HP Photo printer (PhotoSmart P1100). Best Buy dropped the price on this
printer by $150 (in case anyone wants to run out and get one.

Anyway, *first* I tried the IrDA printer that lets you print from LX
built-in programs; then I downloaded the JetEye program from SUPER (figuring
there might be a difference <grin>). I've loaded it, added all the stuff I
was supposed to ... and it doesn't work.

The LX instructions say:

1. install the driver for com1: (that is the default) -- Did that.

2. use the included utility "jetutuil" to enable the driver -- Ran it, and
it said, "the driver is enabled, do you want to disable it?"

3. make sure that the power to the com port is on -- did that.

4. use the command "serctl /i" to setup the IR port -- did that.

5. if you are printing from the DOS prompt and/or from DOS
programs that are set to print from the lpt1: port then use the
command "mode lpt1:=com1:" -- did that.

The DOS-install program copies the main .sys and the util .exe to C:\
it also modifies the config.sys with:

 device = C:\irjeteye.sys COM1

And, I added the following to my Autoexec.bat:

 serctl /i
 mode lpt1:=com1

AND I "rem-ed" out the Keyboard and OTHER IR driver start-up commands in the
autoexec.bat.

I tried printing from PE (stops working ... says, "Printing (margin = 5)"
forever) and I tried printing from Word Perfect (knowing it was set to LPT1)
AND I tried setting WP to print to COM1 (skipping the mode redirect).

Nuttin' happens.

I'd be happy if the little "attention" light, on the printer, blinked and it
printed gibberish, but nothing happens at all (not even a blinking light on
the printer).

Is this supposed to work, or is the HP P1100 not able to accept anything but
Windows commands?

I would think it can print anything, because it has the HP "JetSend" port
(is it HP "proprietary" with some camera system .... and NOT "JetEye"
compliant?) *AND* I can insert a CF card, w/ photos on it and print an index
page and select photos for printing WITHOUT having a computer hooked to
it(!).....

TIA for any help.

More problems (um. challenges) to follow <grin>.

Still happier w/ my LX than anything else!

--ttr

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Public Relations, Media Relations, Corporate Training
Killeen, TX
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: FS: 2gb Jaz Drive
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EEK! Typo!

re:
>I've used the Jaz Traveler, but not w/ my palmtop. It works fine w/ the
>parallel drive of a laptop (quite slow though).

Ummm. I *meant* parallel PORT ... <ahem>, <cough>, <cough>....

--ttr

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re:
>Interestingly, he noted that their parallel port Zip drives
>are no longer listed for sale, either.

Ack! I have *ANOTHER* antique :-(

--ttr

Maybe that Antique Roadshow guy will come through and assess my
gadgets......... <grin>.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:21 PM
Subject: Jazz Drive - Parallel Port


> Who just posted this morning and said they had a parallel port Jazz drive?
> Would you please contact me off-list?  I visited my computer wholesaler
> this morning (for another reason), and discussed this with them.  They
> checked thoroughly, and concluded that if they made one, it was no longer
> for sale.  Interestingly, he noted that their parallel port Zip drives
> are no longer listed for sale, either.

I just checked Iomega's site...the jaz drive is listed.  It is actually a
SCSI drive that uses a parallel port adapter.  Both are currenlty listed on
http://www.iomega.com.

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From: "Tim" <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:03 PM
Subject: FLUFF: Jazz Drive - Parallel Port


> re:
> >Interestingly, he noted that their parallel port Zip drives
> >are no longer listed for sale, either.

Just checked http://www.iomega.com the parallel port zip drive is still
listed for sale.

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Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Chris, I have never heard of a parallel port Jaz drive, only SCSI.

I think that all of the Jazz drives have a SCSI port as the
interface that is built-in.  But there is an "adapter" that is
a parallel-to-SCSI converter that will allow the SCSI Jazz
drive to connect to a parallel port.  This adapter is part of
the parallel cable, so it would appear that the Jazz drive
supports parallel directly.


Stan

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Does anyone know of a parallel-serial converter for the LX that terminates in
a DB25F connector? We have a LaserJet at work that is utilized by multiple
laptop users. The standard parallel cable is left attached at all times. I am
looking for a very short cable to attach my LX to this printer cable, if one
exists. Would it be difficult to adapt an available unit to this
configuration?

Thanks
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Subject:      Re: HPLX to Jet-Eye (on PhotoSmart P1100)

Tim writes:

> Nuttin' happens.
>
> I'd be happy if the little "attention" light, on the printer, blinked and it
> printed gibberish, but nothing happens at all (not even a blinking light on

Hi Tim,

I'm wondering if the mode command may be causing problems for printing
with WordPerfect.  I print to my Citizen PN60i from WordPerfect 5.1 on my
200LX using the IR port.  I follow these steps:

 1) place "device=c:\irjeteye.sys com1" in config.sys and reboot

 2) invoke "serctl /i"

 3) make sure power is on to serial port

 4) enable driver "jetutil"

Once this is done, I make sure I have the proper printer driver selected,
put the printer online, load paper it, and then (I)nitialize it from WP.
It works fine after that.

Ted

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Dennis
If your laserjet has an IR port then it would be easy to print to it
through the IR port.

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:31:18 EDT
From: Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL.COM>
Subject: Serial-Parallel converter info needed

>Does anyone know of a parallel-serial converter for the LX that
>terminates in a DB25F connector? We have a LaserJet at work that is
>utilized by multiple laptop users. The standard parallel cable is left
>attached at all times. I am looking for a very short cable to attach my
>LX to this printer cable, if one exists. Would it be difficult to adapt
>an available unit to this configuration?
Thanks
Dennis

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Hi Ted.

re:

>Once this is done, I make sure I have the proper printer driver
>selected, put the printer online, load paper it, and then (I)nitialize
>it from WP.

Two quick questions.....

1) Do you set WP to print to COM1 (and if so, what settings ... OK, it's 2.5
questions <Grin>)?

2) Which printer driver are you using?

Just curious on #2, in case I do get to the point where I'm printing
junk..... I'm using one of the HP drivers (I'll look later).

TIA,

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:09:33 +0200
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>Only with some kind of text-based browser.  HV (part of D&A's
>WWW/LX package) won't work on the 95LX because the 95 has a
>special graphics mode not upward compatable with the 100/200LX.

Well, I only want to check my pop3/smtp e-mail box.
I'll have got my HP LX 95 on monday, I hope (I got it at www.ebay.de )

>Maybe it is time for an upgrade? <grin>

How much does the update cost?


regards,
Christoph

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:09:51 +0200
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with all that fuss about the machine heating up during fast charging and
possible damage to the internals, memory etc, i'm presently trying short
spurts of 30 minute fast and 2 hour trickle with "charge-it" - i found the
machine just gets slightly warm, not as hot as with the normal 4-6 hour fast
charge. The Voltage increases from 2.5 to 2.75 - enough for another 3 days
of work.

any disadvantage?


.....and to your question:
>Ok who did not make the payment ?

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hello Ted and Tim,

I also tried once (in the shop) to print to this special HP Photo
Printer. I did NOT succeed, and my impression was that this Printer
talks another IR protocol than the Laserjet to which I can print now
without problems.
Maybe somebody on the list can clarify this.

Werner

On 3 Oct 2000, at 22:05, Theodore Heise wrote:

> Tim writes:
>
> > Nuttin' happens.
> >
> > I'd be happy if the little "attention" light, on the printer, blinked and it
> > printed gibberish, but nothing happens at all (not even a blinking light on
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I'm wondering if the mode command may be causing problems for printing
> with WordPerfect.  I print to my Citizen PN60i from WordPerfect 5.1 on my
> 200LX using the IR port.  I follow these steps:
>
>  1) place "device=c:\irjeteye.sys com1" in config.sys and reboot
>
>  2) invoke "serctl /i"
>
>  3) make sure power is on to serial port
>
>  4) enable driver "jetutil"
>
> Once this is done, I make sure I have the proper printer driver selected,
> put the printer online, load paper it, and then (I)nitialize it from WP.
> It works fine after that.
>
> Ted
>
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> PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C  A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25
>



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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:58:22 +0100
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Oh and by the way don't invest in JetSend:

<<
jetsend strategy



                           Hewlett-Packard Company will continue to release
JetSend-enabled Infrared
                           products; however, HP will not be initiating any
new projects or project extensions
                           relating solely to JetSend beyond those, which
are currently in development at HP.

                           HP will continue to protect JetSend intellectual
property. HP will continue to provide
                           JetSend technical support until December 31, 2000
for companies seeking to
                           integrate JetSend into their products. Other
support will be provided at HP's
                           discretion only.

                           HP is shifting its efforts in the wireless
connectivity field from JetSend to different
                           technologies. HP will continue to lead and
champion a number of wireless
                           connectivity initiatives. Among these is
Bluetooth, a wireless technology for which
                           HP was selected to lead the development of
printing profiles. The profiles will define
                           the framework and standard language that will
allow printers to communicate with
                           other Bluetooth printing-enabled devices.
>>

So let's have a low-power BlueTooth device for the LX, please.

William D.Ll.Brown

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HP JetSend is a new proprietary protocol designed by HP.   Sending devices
have to be JetSend enabled.  The HP Jornada 548 claims to be JetSend
enabled, so I infer that you need a JetSend driver to drive the IR port in a
way that is compatible with the JetSend port on the printer.  So I am also
certain that the printer will *not* work with the LX (or for that matter any
laptop unless you get a JetSend driver).

HP printers state that they are "JetSend FIR enabled" so there is a
possibility that these are 4mbps ports, and may not talk down at 115k.

The technology has been licenced by Canon, Konica, Lexmark, Microsoft,
Siemens and Xerox.

Part of the idea is that printing will not need a PC (or similar), so
digital cameras etc will be JetSend-enabled.

As to writing a driver, I note that for at least one integrator the DLL for
JetSend was provided by HP, so I fear that the actual protocol may not be
published.

More blurb at http://www.jetsend.hp.com/JSHome.html

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> ...because the 95 has a special graphics mode
>  not upward compatable with the 100/200LX.

Sorry that I have to contradict here. The HP200LX
supports the HP95LX graphics completely. The palmtops
special graphic routines of INT5F work on both, the
HP95LX and the HP200LX. The only new functions of
INT5F for the HP200LX is font selection and scrolling.

If a program

-detects hardware (INT15)
-sets screenmode  (INT10)
-does graphics    (INT5F)

it would work on both, the HP200LX and HP95LX machines.
The program only has to be aware of different screen dimensions.

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Will a PCMCIA card with 5V be LX compatible?

The card is the ELSA AirLancer MC-11 network card.
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Is there asny program out with which I can check my e-mails on a HP LX 95?
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 www.docdos.de
 www.opendos.de
 www.drdos.de

> Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> > ...because the 95 has a special graphics mode
> >  not upward compatable with the 100/200LX.
>
> Sorry that I have to contradict here. The HP200LX
> supports the HP95LX graphics completely. The palmtops
> special graphic routines of INT5F work on both, the
> HP95LX and the HP200LX. The only new functions of
> INT5F for the HP200LX is font selection and scrolling.
>
> If a program
>
> -detects hardware (INT15)
> -sets screenmode  (INT10)
> -does graphics    (INT5F)
>
> it would work on both, the HP200LX and HP95LX machines.
> The program only has to be aware of different screen dimensions.
>
> Stefan
>
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Christoph Fuchs wrote:

> Is there asny program out with which I can check my e-mails on a HP LX 95?

You should try Goin' Postal. AFAIK it doesn't use PAL (INT5F)
but normal text screen modes. If it supports MDA screen mode,
you might have luck on the HP95LX, which only supports MDA.

Indeed you have to scroll the HP95LX screen to see the 80x25
information and memory may be another issue besides the modem.

The HP95LX serial port only uses 4 pins. This is usually not
enough to connect an external modem unless you short circuit
some handshake lines on the modem and palmtop side.

I would also recommend for an upgrade to HPx00LX before you
spend countless hours and finally have to give up.

I cannot think of a good reason, why to stay with the HP95LX.
Less memory, less battery duration, less DOS compatibility,
smaller screen... You only gain, if you upgrade, you loose
nothing.

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: HPLX to Jet-Eye (on PhotoSmart P1100)

Tim writes:
>
> 1) Do you set WP to print to COM1 (and if so, what settings ... OK, it's 2.5
> questions <Grin>)?
>
> 2) Which printer driver are you using?


I'm using the Citizen GSX-230 driver (CIGSX230.PRS), with the settings
of  COM1, 2400, N, 7, 1, and XON/XOFF.  I believe if the communications
parameters are not correct, you'll get nothing, rather than garbage.

Good luck!

Ted

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<<
with all that fuss about the machine heating up during fast charging and
possible damage to the internals, memory etc, i'm presently trying short
spurts of 30 minute fast and 2 hour trickle with "charge-it" - i found the
machine just gets slightly warm, not as hot as with the normal 4-6 hour fast
charge. The Voltage increases from 2.5 to 2.75 - enough for another 3 days
of work.

any disadvantage?
>>

It's been a while since I've used NiCads, having switched over to NiMHs, which
get a lot more run time (albeit at the expense of a longer charge time), but I
don't see any disadvantage to a less aggressive charging scheme except maybe
reduced use time.

However, if the length of the charge and usage times suit you, then there's no
reason to do otherwise.

FWIW, I've gone thru quite a few sets of NiCads and NiMH cells on my 4 year old
LX (cracked and showing its "lines of distinction") and have yet to encounter
any difficulties resulting from the charging heat ... knock on wood.

A good set of NiMHs blasted with a long overnight charge (especially if you
enjoy your sleep) makes the LX a nice hard-warmer on a cold morning <g>.

<<
.....and to your question:
>Ok who did not make the payment ?

Avi <VBG>
>>

Send the lady doctor two NiMHs and call me in the morning.

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> it is indeed nice for Avi to wish us all the best,
> but i question the source of the initiative
>
> Nathalie
> humanist and fan of Carl Sagan
>
> ps. all replies/comments to me please, not to the list
> please keep this list religion-free; the HP LX had its
> roots in science, one of its creator-forerunners being
> Barney Oliver, collegue of Carl Sagan and co-founder
> of the SETI Institute, both humanists and affiliated with
> SCICOP (scientific investigation of claims of the
> paranormal)

Why do you get to use the list to promote your beliefs and then ask
the rest of us not to?

Why do you use your beliefs to condemn good feelings and best wishes
from Avi?  What kind of belief system is against good feelings and
best wishes?

I agree this has no place on this list.  But that's where you put
it.

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Subject:      Re: Internet with HP LX 95
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE

> Christoph Fuchs wrote:
>
> > Is there asny program out with which I can check my e-mails on a HP LX 95?
>
> You should try Goin' Postal. AFAIK it doesn't use PAL (INT5F)
> but normal text screen modes. If it supports MDA screen mode,
> you might have luck on the HP95LX, which only supports MDA.
>
> Indeed you have to scroll the HP95LX screen to see the 80x25
> information and memory may be another issue besides the modem.
>
> The HP95LX serial port only uses 4 pins. This is usually not
> enough to connect an external modem unless you short circuit
> some handshake lines on the modem and palmtop side.
>
> I would also recommend for an upgrade to HPx00LX before you
> spend countless hours and finally have to give up.
>
> I cannot think of a good reason, why to stay with the HP95LX.
> Less memory, less battery duration, less DOS compatibility,
> smaller screen... You only gain, if you upgrade, you loose
> nothing.
>
> Stefan
>
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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:02:08 -0500
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Two thoughts...

Check and see if the printer has a serial port in addition to the
parallel port... many do... and if so, use that.  The printer will
handle the switch automatically.

IBM had some serial to parallel converters for under $10 for the IBM Z50
a week or so ago.  You should be able to cut the z50 connector off and
attach what you need for the lx.

Hope this Helps...
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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:15:12 +0000
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From:         Al Creswell <al.creswell@ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Internet with HP LX 95
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE

My apologies for the "empty" message I accidentally sent a
short time ago.  Fat finger accidentally sent the message
prematurely.

I've been using Goin' Postal for about a year or so now,
and find it to be an excellent program.  Installation is
straightforward, and it's simple to use, plus it has never
crashed on me.  If all a person needs is email, it's hard
to beat.  I have used it on my 200lx while travelling, and
at home when i want to check email quickly and my desktop
isn't up & running...works great.  Not sure if it works on
the 95lx though.  If you're willing to upgrade to a 100lx
or 200lx though, I'm sure you'd find it would fulfill your
email needs nicely.

Al Creswell
> Christoph Fuchs wrote:
>
> > Is there asny program out with which I can check my e-mails on a HP LX 95?
>
> You should try Goin' Postal. AFAIK it doesn't use PAL (INT5F)
> but normal text screen modes. If it supports MDA screen mode,
> you might have luck on the HP95LX, which only supports MDA.
>
> Indeed you have to scroll the HP95LX screen to see the 80x25
> information and memory may be another issue besides the modem.
>
> The HP95LX serial port only uses 4 pins. This is usually not
> enough to connect an external modem unless you short circuit
> some handshake lines on the modem and palmtop side.
>
> I would also recommend for an upgrade to HPx00LX before you
> spend countless hours and finally have to give up.
>
> I cannot think of a good reason, why to stay with the HP95LX.
> Less memory, less battery duration, less DOS compatibility,
> smaller screen... You only gain, if you upgrade, you loose
> nothing.
>
> Stefan
>
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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:18:12 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Folks,

Let's not get too carried away on this. Everyone likes to promote what they feel is right. Some people are more vocal,
that's all. Bottom line is, these discussions allow each and everyone on of us to relate to each other, and more especially
to get to know each other. The alternate subject (non-hplx) allows us to do it at a different level than the "gadget/pda"
level. Ever discovered how suddenly you got to "know a co-worker much better" after sharing a lunch or a pitcher of beer?
Same here, without the beer. Granted, the amount of noise should stay fairly low (i won't draw the line here, but it's not
that much harder for me to delete messages about lx-related discussions that don't interest me as it is to delete fluff
messages), but i don't think it should be avoided. After all, we're only human, and we need the interaction at a human
level.

I liked the best wishes by Avi, I liked the rebuttal by Nathalie: I know them a tiny bit better for it.

A bientot,

Philippe



----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:03 AM
Subject: Fluff (no matter what Nathalie might say)


>
> Why do you get to use the list to promote your beliefs and then ask
> the rest of us not to?
>
> Why do you use your beliefs to condemn good feelings and best wishes
> from Avi?  What kind of belief system is against good feelings and
> best wishes?
>
> I agree this has no place on this list.  But that's where you put
> it.
>
> Barry
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:21:07 -0700
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Hello!

Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this neat feature when entering calendar events. It's called
t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common words?

Thanks,

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:34:29 +0200
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              Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE>
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Well, where can I update and how much does it cost?

thanks,
Christoph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Creswell" <al.creswell@ATT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Internet with HP LX 95


> My apologies for the "empty" message I accidentally sent a
> short time ago.  Fat finger accidentally sent the message
> prematurely.
>
> I've been using Goin' Postal for about a year or so now,
> and find it to be an excellent program.  Installation is
> straightforward, and it's simple to use, plus it has never
> crashed on me.  If all a person needs is email, it's hard
> to beat.  I have used it on my 200lx while travelling, and
> at home when i want to check email quickly and my desktop
> isn't up & running...works great.  Not sure if it works on
> the 95lx though.  If you're willing to upgrade to a 100lx
> or 200lx though, I'm sure you'd find it would fulfill your
> email needs nicely.
>
> Al Creswell
> > Christoph Fuchs wrote:
> >
> > > Is there asny program out with which I can check my e-mails on a HP LX
95?
> >
> > You should try Goin' Postal. AFAIK it doesn't use PAL (INT5F)
> > but normal text screen modes. If it supports MDA screen mode,
> > you might have luck on the HP95LX, which only supports MDA.
> >
> > Indeed you have to scroll the HP95LX screen to see the 80x25
> > information and memory may be another issue besides the modem.
> >
> > The HP95LX serial port only uses 4 pins. This is usually not
> > enough to connect an external modem unless you short circuit
> > some handshake lines on the modem and palmtop side.
> >
> > I would also recommend for an upgrade to HPx00LX before you
> > spend countless hours and finally have to give up.
> >
> > I cannot think of a good reason, why to stay with the HP95LX.
> > Less memory, less battery duration, less DOS compatibility,
> > smaller screen... You only gain, if you upgrade, you loose
> > nothing.
> >
> > Stefan
> >
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> >
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:53:36 EDT
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Andrew,
It is an HP 4000. I have not checked the manual, but I did not see an IR lens
on it. I also have access to an HP 4L in this configuration as well. Thanks
for the info, however.

Dennis

> If your laserjet has an IR port then it would be easy to print to it
>  through the IR port.

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:00:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Bev@BevHoward.com
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FWIW, this image (taken in full sunlight) gives hope for the future of
color.

Unfortunately, the current Jornada 54x looks like the unit on the right.

http://24.6.255.72/ipaqe100-2.jpg

 Beverly Howard

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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<<
Why do you use your beliefs to condemn good feelings and best wishes
from Avi?  What kind of belief system is against good feelings and
best wishes?
>>

I don't think the intent was an outright condemnation of an expression.

Some people dislike a high noise level on the list and some might find it
occasionally too bland for their tastes.

Nathalie is probably exercising her role as instigatress, but it should be
telling that her target was a friend (with a sense of humor) and one who has
been in his shares of religious wars on this list (and not about religion
either).

But I'm sure Avi is heartened by everyone's spirited defense and support.

- Longden  (who still wants an HR mode on his VR)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> > ps. all replies/comments to me please, not to the list
> > please keep this list religion-free;

Can't...the 200lx is my reiligion.

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:36:35 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Internet with HP LX 95
Comments: To: Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE>

> Well, where can I update and how much does it cost?
>
> thanks,
> Christoph

I don't believe you can directly "update" your 95lx as in
adding memory or other modifications to it; Your best bet
would be to check out the Thaddeus website for
reconditioned 200lx's, or go to Ebay & do a search for "hp
200lx" or "hp 100lx".  I'm not familiar with the 100lx,
having only used the '200 for a year or so now.  The '200
is upgradeable to more memory beyond the 1,2 or 4 mb that
comes in the "stock" models.  I don't believe you can
upgrade the '100's...others please jump in if this is
incorrect. Check out the Thaddeus website at http://
www.palmtoppaper.com/Store.htm for used '200's; prices
start at $300 for 2mb models and go up from there.  Goin'
Postal is available from the SUPER website at http://
www.palmtop.net/super.html as shareware; trial version
available at no charge; I think it's $30 to register it.

Hope this helps,

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:38:49 -0400
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Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a parallel-serial converter for the LX that terminat=
es in
> a DB25F connector? We have a LaserJet at work

Does that printer perhaps have a serial port also? If yes, then
you can just plug the palmtop into that directly.  I do this at
work alot.

Maybe you can use a A-B switch with the Centronics connectors
on it hooked up to the printer. Position A connects the printer
to that cable the notebooks can use and postion B hooks to the
S/P converter for you.


Stan

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Dobrowski" <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Maybe you can use a A-B switch with the Centronics connectors
on it hooked up to the printer. Position A connects the printer
to that cable the notebooks can use and postion B hooks to the
S/P converter for you.

Warning: if you use an a-b switch you will void the warranty on the HP
printer.  If you have an HP printer read the fine pirnt in the warranty.,

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Religious violence! Feh!  People fight because of economics and hatred. They
want resources to which others lay claim so they try to take it by force.
From these conflicts stem age old animosities that make the conflicts
self-perpetuating. Their leaders just use religion as a means of garnering
support among the truly ignorant among them. As individuals, humans can
reach greatness but, as a group (or a mob), the shit is always what rises to
the top. I offer the current American presidential race as an example :-/

BTW: Hey, Nat. Long time no read.


>religious violence is caused by just such religious "traditions of
>calendaring...observant or not, followers or not" for they
>make distinctions

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I know you all have similar experiences, but this is the first time it =
happened to me.  I was sitting in someone elses office the other day, =
going over some financial figures.  There were two high powered pc's in =
the room as well as some palms.  For one reason or the other the pc's =
were having network problems.  I pulled out my 200lx and started putting =
the numbers into lotus 123. =20
Switching back and forth between the calculator and 123 we were able to =
analyze all the figures.

Finally some one observed the fact that we had all this processing power =
in the room and were working everything out on a 1994 msdos computer.

I said this is my point, this is why i carry it around because no =
palmtop  today can really fulfull the common needs of people who use =
them except this old 1994 msdos computer, which BTW i can surf the =
internet at 56kb, have a 48mb of storage, and operate on the ethernet =
network.

I am always taking abuse about holding on to old technology.  Maybe that =
will change now.

Tim

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calculator and=20
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we had all=20
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carry it=20
around because no palmtop  today can really fulfull the common needs of =
people=20
who use them except this old 1994 msdos computer, which BTW i can surf =
the=20
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network.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am always taking abuse about holding =
on to old=20
technology.&nbsp; Maybe that will change now.</FONT></DIV>
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Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE> wrote:

> Well, where can I update İmy 95 to a 100/200LX¨ and how much does it =
cost?

When I suggested an upgrade, I thought you were using the 95
for a long time and I was suggesting you dump it and buy a 100
or 200LX.  You cannot physically upgrade the 95LX.  To be
honest, you probably should not have bought the 95LX.  It is
severly limited and will have a very hard time doing the stuff
you already want to do with it.

As others have suggested, a good idea would be to find a 100LX
or 200LX on eBay.  Your best bet would be to get a refurbished
200LX with double speed processor and memory expansion and
warranty from www.thaddeus.com.


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Stephan Goeldi <stephan_goeldi@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Will a PCMCIA card with 5V be LX compatible?
>
> The card is the ELSA AirLancer MC-11 network card

The palmtop certainly suppies 5 volts to a PCMCIA card.  The
problem is the current, though.  The palmtop can only supply
150 milliamps to the card in the slot which is rather too low
for most network cards.  I don't know the specs on that card,
but you should see if you can find that out before trying it.

The other problem might be trying to get the proper drivers for
that card.  The PCMCIA controller in the 100/200LX is
proprietary and does not work with generic DOS slot drivers
that might come with the card.  You can try the network card
drivers specially written for the palmtop and generic network
cards and see if they for with your card.


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Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common =
words?

There certainly is.  Try Quick/LX, written by Andreas Garzotto
and available from D&A Software at www.dasoft.com.


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Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> Sorry that I have to contradict here

No need to be sorry about correcting wrong information.

> The HP200LX supports the HP95LX graphics completely

I know that the 100/200LX supports the 95LX's graphics programs
in a small box in the middle of the screen.  I was trying to
say that it did not work the other way around - the 95 cannot
run graphics programs written specifically for the 100/200LX.
The 95 uses a unique graphics screen supported by a simple set
of primitive graphics routines in ROM and the 100/200 uses more
or less standard CGA that can be supported by just about any C
compiler's graphics libraries.  Maybe I am wrong.

> If a program
> -detects hardware (INT15)
> -sets screenmode  (INT10)
> -does graphics    (INT5F)
> it would work on both, the HP200LX and HP95LX machines.
> The program only has to be aware of different screen dimensions

I don't know the technical details you are speaking about.  But
in layman's terms, are you saying that a program written to use
the PAL libraries, for example, will work on the 95LX?  Or that
a DOS program written to use CGA graphics will work on the
95LX?


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I agree with you.  I'm probably more often guilty of getting
off-topic than most on the list.

I happen to agree to some extent with her views on religion.  I
wouldn't go as far as she does.  But I'm sympathetic.  I think
religious thinking does a lot of harm.  But I don't think everything
connected with it is evil.  Like most things, it's both good and
bad.  And I recognize that the religious think my attitude does
harm.  I don't claim to know the TRUTH.

My objection was not to her statement or even to her being
off-topic.  It was that she stated her opinion and then stated that
we would be irresponsible to reply.  So I replied.

Barry

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To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:18 PM
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> Folks,
>
> Let's not get too carried away on this. Everyone likes to promote
what they feel is right. Some people are more vocal,
> that's all. Bottom line is, these discussions allow each and
everyone on of us to relate to each other, and more especially
> to get to know each other. The alternate subject (non-hplx) allows
us to do it at a different level than the "gadget/pda"
> level. Ever discovered how suddenly you got to "know a co-worker
much better" after sharing a lunch or a pitcher of beer?
> Same here, without the beer. Granted, the amount of noise should
stay fairly low (i won't draw the line here, but it's not
> that much harder for me to delete messages about lx-related
discussions that don't interest me as it is to delete fluff
> messages), but i don't think it should be avoided. After all,
we're only human, and we need the interaction at a human
> level.
>
> I liked the best wishes by Avi, I liked the rebuttal by Nathalie:
I know them a tiny bit better for it.
>
> A bientot,
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:03 AM
> Subject: Fluff (no matter what Nathalie might say)
>
>
> >
> > Why do you get to use the list to promote your beliefs and then
ask
> > the rest of us not to?
> >
> > Why do you use your beliefs to condemn good feelings and best
wishes
> > from Avi?  What kind of belief system is against good feelings
and
> > best wishes?
> >
> > I agree this has no place on this list.  But that's where you
put
> > it.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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> >
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"Ken" <KenLondon@beld.net> wrote:

> Warning: if you use an a-b switch you will void the warranty on the HP
> printer.  If you have an HP printer read the fine pirnt in the warranty

Wow, that is very interesting.  How do that enforce that? <G>

I am glad we only use Lexmark and Epson printers here at work.


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Ed Padin <epadin@wagweb.com> wrote:

> I got the starttac using verizon also. I haven't gotten the truesync =
kit
> because I wasn't sure it would work. Is this what you're using?
> expenive for a lousy little cable and some software!!! ($124 in my
> area)

Yes.  It is the StarTAC ST7868 phone and the Motorola "Data
Connectivity Kit with TrueSync Software".  It was about $100+
for me also.  It is a phone to DB9 cable that just needs the HP
serial cable and the black DB9-DB9 adapter to connect the two
cables.  The TrueSync software runs in Windows and works nicely
to configure the phone and sync the phone's phone list with the
PC, but is not needed to go online.

> Do they charge extra to allow data access?
> What's the speed like?
> Do you have to get the web option enabled too?
> Do you just dial your own ISP?

There is no "data access" charge, but there is an extra monthly
fee for enabling the web option (the mini-browser in the phone)
and that is what allows the data to work also.  It is $6.95 per
month with a special deal for the first 3 months free.  Of
course, you also have to pay for the air time and toll charges
as if it was a regular voice call.

The speed is 14.4 kbps as indicated on the display of the
phone.  That is all I have ever seen.  The throughput is the
same as my desktop 14.4 modem using the same 19.2 kbps COM1
speed setting connecting to the same CompuServe phone number.
Virtually no difference.

I don't even have a special phone book entry in either WWW/LX
or acCIS for use with the cel phone.  I just use the desktop
modem with land line or the cel phone as the situation calls
for without any difference in the way I go online.  It could
not be easier.  Even at home, I use the cel phone when the wife
and kids have the phone lines tied up.

When I am out of my local area, I usually dial the CompuServe
800 number with the cel phone to save on toll charges,
otherwise I always just call the local CIS node in NJ.


Stan

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Tim Kelley <kelley@WT.NET> wrote:

> There were two high powered pc's in the room as well as some
> palms.  For one reason or the other the pc's were having
> network problems.  I pulled out my 200lx and started putting
> the numbers into lotus 123

Yes! I remember one time several years ago while I was
president of my labor union.  We were in negotiations with the
employer trying to settle on a cost of living raise figure.  I
already had the salary guides and all of my members' salary
figures in Lotus 123.  As we were taking about various figures,
I was plugging them into Lotus and running up the figures.
Nobody really paid much attention to my work on the palmtop
because it is so unobtrusive compared to a full sized notebook
sitting on the table.

When we had pretty much settled on a number, I excused myself
from the room for a minute and hooked my palmtop to the nearest
laser printer and printed the sheets with all of the exact up
to the second figures.  When I came back in, someone mentioned
that now they would have to try to figure out what the new
salary scales would look like and that is when I just handed
them the report already done!


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:34:49 +0000
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> I know that the 100/200LX supports the 95LX's graphics programs
> in a small box in the middle of the screen.  I was trying to
> say that it did not work the other way around - the 95 cannot
> run graphics programs written specifically for the 100/200LX.

that's true indeed, because the HP95 could not know of it's
successor.

> The 95 uses a unique graphics screen supported by a simple set
> of primitive graphics routines in ROM

and exactly the same primitive graphic routines are only
available on the 100/200. These are the functions provided by
the INT5F on both the 95 and 100/200. Because they are not
available on a normal desktop, they have do be emulated there
with a TSR like PALRUN, INT5F or PALMPC.

> and the 100/200 uses more
> or less standard CGA that can be supported by just about any C
> compiler's graphics libraries.

you are right. For this reason, almost every CGA program for
desktops is running on the 100/200, but not on a 95, because
the 95 uses another display memory organisation than CGA does.

Standard CGA programs written for desktops indeed don't use
the palmtops built in graphics routines.

If a program for the palmtop is written using the PAL library,
it makes heavy use of the palmtops built in graphics functions,
because PAL is based on these functions. But that was not a
must in PAL design. PAL could have used an own set of functions
independent from the INT5F. Then the programs written with PAL
would have run immediately on any desktop, without the need of
a TSR emulating the palmtop. Indeed, such programs would have
been bigger in size, because they had to carry the code, which
is now used from ROM.

> ... are you saying that a program written to use
> the PAL libraries, for example, will work on the 95LX?

no, I don't think so, because PAL does much more than only do
calls to the INT5F. What I was saying, is, that a program only
using INT5F also runs on the HP95. But the program must be
aware of that, by first detecting the model, because the screen
mode has to be set different on the 95 than on a 100/200. But once
the screen mode is set, the rest of the code can be identical.
Even if output is designed for 640x200 pixel, you will see the
upper left quarter of the screen on the 95. This is the so
called clip feature of all palmtops (95/100/200):

The graphics functions of INT5F use virtual screens of any
size. Once you defined such a virtual screen, output is
automatically restricted to this screen size.

This is a tremendous feature of the palmtop, used too less in
programs available for the palmtop, but let's see ;-)

> Or that a DOS program written to use CGA graphics will work on the
> 95LX?

no, because the 95 has no CGA, it is more something like
Hercules.

Stefan

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:21:07 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

 > Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this =
neat feature when entering calendar events. It's called
 > t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain =
combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
 > is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete =
common words?

Quick/LX will probably do what you want. It completes words which are
in a dictionary which you can create and modify yourself. Check out
www.dasoft.com for more details.

Tom
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:34:29 +0200, Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWA=
Y.DE> wrote:

 > Well, where can I update and how much does it cost?

You can not "update" a HP 95LX. You can only sell or dump it and buy
a used or new HP 100 or 200LX.

Tom
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Yep! Thanks everyone! Quick LX works great!

Philippe

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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: t9word


On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:21:07 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

 > Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this neat
feature when entering calendar events. It's called
 > t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain
combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
 > is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common
words?

Quick/LX will probably do what you want. It completes words which are
in a dictionary which you can create and modify yourself. Check out
www.dasoft.com for more details.

Tom
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Subject:      Re: Internet with HP LX 95
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Christoph Fuchs wrote:
> Well, I only want to check my pop3/smtp e-mail box.
> I'll have got my HP LX 95 on monday, I hope (I got it at www.ebay.de )

Have you looked at Going Postal?  It is an email package that is
designed for small LXs (but I don't know if that includes the 95LX).

Cheers... Russ

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Fryday wrote:

> Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this neat feature when entering calendar events. It's called
> t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
> is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common words?

I am curently using T9 on a Palm Vx. it's about the fastest text input
method I have seen. The only problem is that Concept Kitchens no longers
offers it and it won't run on a 3.5 OS Palm.

Jeff

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>>I am glad we only use Lexmark and Epson printers here at work.

probably say the same thing in the fine print <g,d&r>

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Ken wrote:

> > please keep this list religion-free;
>
> Can't...the 200lx is my religion.

That's a good point. It normally takes about 10 minutes to
convince someone else, that my religion is better. The first
question is always: "How much does it cost to convert to your
religion?" I answer $1000 (HP200LX+flashcard+modem+SC+WWW).

Next question: "But then I can believe in all you just showed me?"
I have to answer: Well, if you studied all bibles and know how
to apply them, yes.

"Is it hard to study?"
 Yes

"Could you help me and can I always ask you, if I have problems?"
 Hmmmm

"OK, I guess, I'll stay with WinXX, it's so easy to believe in
it, even if it let's me down from time to time. I don't like
bible study, but I really admire you and your little religion."

That's what usually happens, and I started to realize, that
my 'religion' is not suited for everybody. No, it only suits
for very few, becoming less every day.

If I see, how they treat their religion, and what they know
about it, I honestly don't want to have them in my religion.

Hence I'm no longer a missionary ;-)

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:48:47 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Sorry that I have to contradict here. The HP200LX
> supports the HP95LX graphics completely. The palmtops
> special graphic routines of INT5F work on both, the
> HP95LX and the HP200LX. The only new functions of
> INT5F for the HP200LX is font selection and scrolling.

The 100lx and 200lx also support CGA graphics, which the 95lx
doesn't.  Using your own graphics functions is much faster than
using the Int 5Fh functions and that's easily done in CGA.  It
doesn't preclude using the int 5Fh functions, too, but it does
completely kill 95lx graphics compatibility.

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> I cannot think of a good reason, why to stay with the HP95LX.
> Less memory, less battery duration, less DOS compatibility,
> smaller screen... You only gain, if you upgrade, you loose
> nothing.

I still use my 95lx for certain kinds of programming play.  It's
screen is more readable than the 200lx, even though my 200lx has a
brighter screen.  It's just the difference in the fonts, I guess.

Also the key arrangement is more intuitive on the 95lx.  I can go
from the 200lx to the 95lx and be used to it again in 2 minutes.
Going back to the 200lx takes a lot longer.

No doubt the 200lx is the more powerful machine, by far.  But the
95lx is more elegant.

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:51:41 -0400
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  From: Tim Kelley=20
  use them except this old 1994 msdos computer, which BTW i can surf the =
internet at 56kb, have a 48mb of storage, and operate on the ethernet =
network.

  How do you connect to an Ethernet?  Will the the hp200lx connect to a =
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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:14:36 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I pulled out my 200lx and started putting the numbers
> into lotus 123.  Switching back and forth between the
> calculator and 123 we were able to analyze all the
> figures.

I ran into a situation at work where they had a file come in from
Boston in the wrong format and they needed a conversion program NOW.
I was the one they always called on for that kind of stuff, being
the systems programmer.  But I had been putting off lunch and I'm
diabetic, which does bad things to me if I don't eat.  And nobody
was around to bring anything to me.

I had QuickBasic on my 100lx so I copied some file samples to it,
printed out the 2 formats and took off to lunch.  When I got back
several people were steaming.  A lot of money depended on this. So I
pulled out my trusty 100lx, transfered the exe to my desktop and
started the conversion over the network.  It worked like a charm.

It would have taken me longer to do it sitting in the office
listening to them trying to rush me.

Interesting that it ran fairly fast.  That surprised me, too.  I
guess expecting basic to be slow is a habit left over from the 4.77
mhz days.

Later I would have used Turbo C but this was in the days when a 2
meg sram card cost several hundred dollars.

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:07:47 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Tim Kelley wrote:
> Finally some one observed the fact that we had all this processing
> power in the room and were working everything out on a 1994 msdos computer.

Great story, thanks!
Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:51:28 +0000
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> bible study, but I really admire you and your little religion."
>
> That's what usually happens, and I started to realize, that
> my 'religion' is not suited for everybody. No, it only suits
> for very few, becoming less every day.

Stefan, You make us sound like Druids!

Everybody chant now; LX DOS 123 and no Win-n-n-d-o-o-o-o-ws  :-)

I wonder if sacrificing a goat at the new moon will prevent hinge
cracks?  Can I substitute a WinCE for the goat?

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:10:13 +0200
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              Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE>
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Thanks to all of you,
cu
Christoph
--
You're looking for real cool DOS stuff?
Here it is:
 www.drdos.net (english)
other (all in german):
 www.docdos.de
 www.opendos.de
 www.drdos.de
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Rundel" <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: Internet with HP LX 95


On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:34:29 +0200, Christoph Fuchs
<christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE> wrote:

 > Well, where can I update and how much does it cost?

You can not "update" a HP 95LX. You can only sell or dump it and buy
a used or new HP 100 or 200LX.

Tom
www.rundel.net/palmtop

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Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:08:04 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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While I have refrained from responding to this topic, the time has come.  As
many on this list know, one of the primary functions of my 200LX is to run
the PC Study Bible suite.  Granted I first had a 95LX that failed the three
foot drop test on Spanish a tile floor.  Outside of general geekness, the
reason for acquiring a replacement 100LX and 20 meg flash card was to run
the PC Study Bible suite.  At the time, the cost for the hardware was about
$1600, $599 for the LX and $999 for the flash card, Kalifornia taxes
excluded.  I still have that 100LX and genuine HP (Sandisk) flash card.
Thanks to Mack's efforts, I was fortunate to obtain the beta version Times2
32 meg 200LX I use today.  It has yet to fail me.  While the TRG Pro has
replaced my beloved 200LX in many areas, the 200LX is still "THE PORTABLE
BIBLE REFERENCE MACHINE".

Through all of my 200LX adventures, Avi and his company have provided
software, support and friendship that is to be commended.  Besides, from my
religious perspective, at least Avi got the first half right!:)  For the
record, I do pay attention to, and observe the traditional Israelite Holy
Days and Feasts.

The bottom line is the primary function of my 200LX today is to run Bible
software.  I am a self confessed computer junkie, but my 200LX's primary
function is to support my Christian religious belief.

With all do respect,

Colin


Ken wrote:

> > please keep this list religion-free;
>
> Can't...the 200lx is my religion.

That's a good point. It normally takes about 10 minutes to
convince someone else, that my religion is better. The first
question is always: "How much does it cost to convert to your
religion?" I answer $1000 (HP200LX+flashcard+modem+SC+WWW).

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:09:46 +0800
Reply-To:     "Roger S." <rogerswn@i-cable.com>
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From:         "Roger S." <rogerswn@I-CABLE.COM>
Subject:      ccLXPOP

Hi List,
Thanks to David Becher's help and his version of epppd program, I can now
send and rcv emails using LXTCP and ccLXPOP.
But there is still one little glitch. when I run cclxpop after receiving all
the mails, all the emails appear again even those I had deleted from
cc:mail. There must be something I forgot to set, but where?

TIA

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:42:44 -0400
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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James Henry wrote:


  Just email > your pdf file as an attachment to either of these addreses.=
 I
have just > tested on a 120 K PDF file and it worked great.
>
> You can send PDF documents as email attachments to:
>     pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu <mailto:pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu> -- =
for
> plain text.
>     pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu <mailto:pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu> --
for
> HTML.
>


Isn't there any adress you can send a HTML document for text?



Lars

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:32:54 -0400
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Dear Folks, just to give you an advance notice. The upgrade
offer on WWW/LX Version 3 is about to end at midnight Octover
20, 2000. If you have a license for WWW/LX Version 2, can
upgrade it to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00. If you have a
license for WWW/LX of older versions, you can upgrade for
$65.00. This offer ends October 20.

After that a license for WWW/LX Version 3 will cost $79.00,
regardless of prior versions.

This is also posted on D&A Software Webpage,
http://www.dasoft.com and click on NOTICES.

Best regards,

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Dear Folks,

The time has come: After midnight October 20, 2000, WWW/LX
Version 2 will no longer be current or supported.

Now is the time to ask your questions and solve problems :)
... There will no longer be the free support for OLDER
versions of WWW/LX as we provided in the past.

This is also posted in the D&A Software web page at
http://www.dasoft.com click on NOTICES.

Thank you!

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:33:02 -0400
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Subject:      FLUFF: Re: Fluff (no matter what Nathalie might say)
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Longden:

Thanks for the post...

> I don't think the intent was an outright condemnation of an
> expression.

I did not take it as a condemnation of _my_ expression. I
interpreted Nathalie's post as a critique of several things
all at once: Lack of sufficient peace in the "hot spot", an
exasperated critique of the "groupings" people do along many
lines (religious, those who have 200LXs vs. those morons who
have the _other machines_ :) ...), and so on.

> Nathalie is probably exercising her role as instigatress, but it should be
> telling that her target was a friend (with a sense of humor) and one who has
> been in his shares of religious wars on this list (and not about religion
> either).

I am sure she felt more comfortable to post what she had to
say as a response to me. We have had a lively correspondence
on many topics, including a large proportion on religion,
humanism, ethics, medicine, and humans. So she knew I was not
going to be offended in the least bit.

As to being her friend, well, that is like having died and
gone to heaven.... :-) OOPS!!! Another religious concept! :)

> But I'm sure Avi is heartened by everyone's spirited defense
> and support.

I am not sure about support. What actually happened was that I
posted it and nothing happened for a day. I thought maybe I
pissed off everyone, it is not like the list to let humor go
by! Then Nathalie put the fire to everyone. But really, I did
not feel attacked or slighted by her in any way. I just hope
that nicknaming her Sinaid did not bother her.

We have since corresponded, and I assure you, there is no less
spark between us than there was before! (and you can interpret
this anyway you want :)...)

> - Longden  (who still wants an HR mode on his VR)

This is an idea! Take a look at a program called READ, check
http://www.dasoft.com click on the FTP link, got to MISC and
look up READ. A nice little gem Andreas put together.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

>
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Russel Brooks wrote:
> I wonder if sacrificing a goat at the new moon will prevent hinge
> cracks?  Can I substitute a WinCE for the goat?

And risk the ire of the gods you try to appease with a
sacrificial goat? Nah! :>

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:47:05 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
> Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL.COM> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a parallel-serial converter for the LX that terminates in
> > a DB25F connector? We have a LaserJet at work
>
> Does that printer perhaps have a serial port also? If yes, then
> you can just plug the palmtop into that directly.  I do this at
> work alot.
>
> Maybe you can use a A-B switch with the Centronics connectors
> on it hooked up to the printer. Position A connects the printer
> to that cable the notebooks can use and postion B hooks to the
> S/P converter for you.
>
> Stan

Ack.  I've seen people use A-B switches with a laser printer.  Multiple
times, the result is a DEAD laser printer.  That gets expensive, fast.

Another alternative is to get a PCMCIA dock for a desktop machine (or
put a laptop with PCMCIA on the LAN) and print from there.  Or put your
LX on the LAN and print over network software.

(Now that the cables are starting to get produced, perhaps I should make
a Ser-Par converter <G>)

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              Currency)
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Folks,

If you don't have WWW/LX Version 3 yet, but are thinking of getting it, i might have something for you.
I have WWW/LX Version 2 and will sell the license for 29$, giving you an effective 10$ rebate on Version 3.

That or a best offer, or a good reason why I should get WWW/LX Version 3...

Thanks,

Philippe

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:32 AM
Subject: WWW/LX Version 2 End Of Currency


> Dear Folks,
>
> The time has come: After midnight October 20, 2000, WWW/LX
> Version 2 will no longer be current or supported.
>
> Now is the time to ask your questions and solve problems :)
> ... There will no longer be the free support for OLDER
> versions of WWW/LX as we provided in the past.
>
> This is also posted in the D&A Software web page at
> http://www.dasoft.com click on NOTICES.
>
> Thank you!
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Avi,

Why not keep the upgrade offer indefinitely while stopping support for Version 2? Or just keep the same $65 offer as with
the "old versions". Otherwise you are pretty much telling your current registered users that you are letting them go. It's
a gamble: some may upgrade, and some may simply decide that since their earlier investment is not worth the trouble of D&A,
they simply won't go the the next release.

Sometimes it amazes me: so many times we, the people on this group, are disappointed to see that manufacturers of DOS
software suddenly decide to stop supporting their loyal users. And then we keep hearing people talking about Microsoft,
coming out with release upon release of buggy software, but not supporting the older versions, even if many of these
earlier versions were working quite well and will undoubtedly work quite well in 50 years (Lotus 1-2-3, albeit not an MS
product, is a good example of that. And now we hear about older version of LX software that will not be supported anymore.

I see a pattern here that even our little community don't seem to be able to avoid.

Now, I won't argue the problems of supporting users in a small shop like D&A is keeping. There's not easy way out of this.
But at least they should give their earlier registered users a little token of appreciation for their loyalty, methink.
Either that, or perhaps a yearly maintenance/support fee model should be used to keep a steady stream of revenue while
allowing D&A to give users something in exchange for this fee rather than giving it for free.

Just some ideas rolling around in my head...

Thanks,

Philippe




----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:32 AM
Subject: WWW/LX Version 2 End Of Currency


> Dear Folks,
>
> The time has come: After midnight October 20, 2000, WWW/LX
> Version 2 will no longer be current or supported.
>
> Now is the time to ask your questions and solve problems :)
> ... There will no longer be the free support for OLDER
> versions of WWW/LX as we provided in the past.
>
> This is also posted in the D&A Software web page at
> http://www.dasoft.com click on NOTICES.
>
> Thank you!
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
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>   How do you connect to an Ethernet?  Will the the hp200lx connect to a =
> DSL line running off of an ethernet hub?

It certainly should.  I have connected with my ethernet card to several
ethernet hubs, both those on dial-up routers and high-speed dedicated
connections.  It should be no different with a DSL router.  In fact, this
is what we have at my office, but it was installed within the past couple
of months, and I haven't had need to try it out on my HP yet.  But I don't
imagine there would be any difference than say the modem router case.
If you're really curious, I can try to fire it up today and let you know.

-Chris

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> Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this =
neat feature when entering calendar events. It's called
> t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain =
combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
> is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common =
words?

check out the program Quick/LX at www.dasoft.com for one I use and like. =
 You
can provide a list of words for it to complete, or it can learn your most
commonly typed words.

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hello Nathalie,

On 4 Oct 2000, at 8:09, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> with all that fuss about the machine heating up during fast charging and
> possible damage to the internals, memory etc, i'm presently trying short
> spurts of 30 minute fast and 2 hour trickle with "charge-it" - i found
> the machine just gets slightly warm, not as hot as with the normal 4-6
> hour fast charge. The Voltage increases from 2.5 to 2.75 - enough for
> another 3 days of work.
>
> any disadvantage?
>
IMO yes.
You loose capacity when you do not charge fully your empty Nicds.
(memory effect)
This is also true for NiMH Accus, although less than in NiCd.
The heating of the Palmtop when charging is from the voltage control
circuit and not from the Nicd's. The charging current of the HP200 is
so low, that you cannot heat good accus.
I charge my NiMh's outside the LX with much higher current w/o frying
them, but in a special charger with sophisticated charging control (and
temperature surveillance)

Did you repair your loose 12V jack in the HP?

Werner





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I end up using QuickBasic on my 200lx for this purpose all the time.

Example:

We where running some tests in the field for a client, using their vehicle
and data acquisition system.

Their software did not display the results after making a run, so we had no
idea if a run was good/bad.

Their data files where delimited ASCII.  So, I wrote a simple QB program the
plotted the data and provided some indicators for the operator about data
quality to make a re-run decision.

Everyone was amazed that a device that looked like a complex calculator had
this capability.  Plus, the display was sunlight readable!

        -----Original Message-----

        Date:    Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:14:36 -0500
        From:    Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
        Subject: 200lx saves the day

        > I pulled out my 200lx and started putting the numbers
        > into lotus 123.  Switching back and forth between the
        > calculator and 123 we were able to analyze all the
        > figures.

        I ran into a situation at work where they had a file come in from
        Boston in the wrong format and they needed a conversion program NOW.
        I was the one they always called on for that kind of stuff, being
        the systems programmer.  But I had been putting off lunch and I'm
        diabetic, which does bad things to me if I don't eat.  And nobody
        was around to bring anything to me.

        I had QuickBasic on my 100lx so I copied some file samples to it,
        printed out the 2 formats and took off to lunch.  When I got back
        several people were steaming.  A lot of money depended on this. So I
        pulled out my trusty 100lx, transfered the exe to my desktop and
        started the conversion over the network.  It worked like a charm.

        It would have taken me longer to do it sitting in the office
        listening to them trying to rush me.

        Interesting that it ran fairly fast.  That surprised me, too.  I
        guess expecting basic to be slow is a habit left over from the 4.77
        mhz days.

        Later I would have used Turbo C but this was in the days when a 2
        meg sram card cost several hundred dollars.

        Barry

        ------------------------------

        Date:    Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:07:47 +0000
        From:    Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
        Subject: Re: Have to share

        Tim Kelley wrote:
        > Finally some one observed the fact that we had all this processing
        > power in the room and were working everything out on a 1994 msdos
computer.

        Great story, thanks!
        Cheers... Russ

        ------------------------------

        Date:    Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:51:28 +0000
        From:    Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
        Subject: Fluff: Stefan and the Druids

        Stefan Peichl wrote:
        > bible study, but I really admire you and your little religion."
        >
        > That's what usually happens, and I started to realize, that
        > my 'religion' is not suited for everybody. No, it only suits
        > for very few, becoming less every day.

        Stefan, You make us sound like Druids!

        Everybody chant now; LX DOS 123 and no Win-n-n-d-o-o-o-o-ws  :-)

        I wonder if sacrificing a goat at the new moon will prevent hinge
        cracks?  Can I substitute a WinCE for the goat?

        Cheers... Russ

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> > any disadvantage?
> >
> IMO yes.
> You loose capacity when you do not charge fully your empty Nicds.
> (memory effect)
> This is also true for NiMH Accus, although less than in NiCd.

Ah, the memory effect.  I've been on NiMHs for so long that I'd forgotten all
about that issue in regards to NiCads, thanks Werner.

Yes, NiCads supposedly require more aggressive "conditioning" in how far you
deplete them, and then in how completely you recharge them.  Partial discharges
and recharges apparently reduce the capacity of the cells over time, tho I'll
admit this is more from consensus than experience since I had used only one set
of NiCads before switching.  I pretty much abuse my NiMHs in every way
(partial-complete discharges, partial recharges, monstrously long overcharges)
... with no discernible ill effects to either cells, LX and more importantly to
the owner.

- Longden (actually maybe the ill effect is that MY memory is going .... )

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<<
> - Longden  (who still wants an HR mode on his VR)

This is an idea! Take a look at a program called READ, check
http://www.dasoft.com click on the FTP link, got to MISC and
look up READ. A nice little gem Andreas put together.
>>

Thanks for the tip Avi ... you're right, a gem of a little program and probably
suitable for reading the news and other mudane text.

Unfortunately, "MacBeth" (and anything with a sense of cadence) loses something
presented in this fashion.  Sort of like trying to savor an ocean cruise thru
the porthole <g>.

Maybe I should tool together some mirrors and prisms to make a pair of
HR-glasses that will rotate VR images 90 degrees.  Now that would be the
definitive geek item! You'd just have to be careful when you look up ... that
the corner you're about to turn is actually the edge of the cliff...

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Hello All,

I just got a 95LX off eBay and plan to get a SanDisk Flash card for it, also
off eBay. I understand that I will need a driver to use the SanDisk card on
the 95LX.

My question is this: Where can I get the SDPSTART.COM program or the
SDPDRV.SYS driver and SDISK and SFORMAT programs? Is there a source to
download them from? Failing that, would it be legal for someone who has them
to e-mail me a copy?

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Hello All,

I just got a 95LX off eBay and plan to get a SanDisk Flash card for it, also
off eBay. I understand that I will need a driver to use the SanDisk card on
the 95LX.

My question is this: Where can I get the SDPSTART.COM program or the
SDPDRV.SYS driver and SDISK and SFORMAT programs? Is there a source to
download them from? Failing that, would it be legal for someone who has them
to e-mail me a copy?

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My question in short:  Does a DS 200LX need spd31.exe running to make proper
use of the serial port?  And, if running a DS palmtop without spd31.exe
screws with the serial port is there any low baud rate it will run on
temporarily, just so I can get spd31.exe across to it?

I had troubles with my DS 200LX and had to remove the the main and backup
batteries to correct them.  It started up as it always does when I have to
initialize the C: drive and I was on my way to reinstalling spd31.exe.
Previously I have just copied it over from my PCMCIA card on drive F:, but
this time when I reinstalled the card, all the data on it was corrupted or
wasn't being read properly.  I don't have another device that takes PCMCIA
so I couldn't copy spd31.exe onto it that way.  Some of the files and
directories are still there, they are just scrambled and some have
substituted letters with random characters.

I decided to try Transfile because my copy of zip212 on the PC card was
corrupted or whatever.  The palmtop doesn't respond on the settings I
normally use it on, on either serial ports on any of my three desktops.
What do I need to do?

CT

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Well, I only have a 3/97 version of spd31.sys and the documentation does mention
some issues with the serial port in the event you lose spd31.sys during a crash.

You probably should consult your documentation (which is on your flash card of
course), or look on the T2T website -> http://www.times2tech.com/ for more
recent information, but in a nutshell, the 1997 doc says:

Following is a debug script that you can use from the DOS
prompt to get the serial port to work if you ever need to
transfer the drivers from a PC to restore the system.

DEBUG<enter>
A<enter>
MOV AL,1E<enter>
OUT 22,AL<enter>
MOV AL,FD<enter>
OUT 23,AL<enter>
MOV AL,21<enter>
OUT 22,AL<enter>
MOV AL,01<enter>
OUT 23,AL<enter>
RET<enter>
<enter>
G<enter>
Q<enter>

To avoid this in the future please backup the drivers to your
SRAM or FLASH card if either is available.  You can also just
set your baud rate to be half of what the PC is running at and
you should be able to transfer files as well, but this method
is not guaranteed to work.

- Longden





CT Hildreth <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET> on 10/05/2000 10:11:57 AM

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Subject:  Serial port problems/DS driver troubles



My question in short:  Does a DS 200LX need spd31.exe running to make proper
use of the serial port?  And, if running a DS palmtop without spd31.exe
screws with the serial port is there any low baud rate it will run on
temporarily, just so I can get spd31.exe across to it?

I had troubles with my DS 200LX and had to remove the the main and backup
batteries to correct them.  It started up as it always does when I have to
initialize the C: drive and I was on my way to reinstalling spd31.exe.
Previously I have just copied it over from my PCMCIA card on drive F:, but
this time when I reinstalled the card, all the data on it was corrupted or
wasn't being read properly.  I don't have another device that takes PCMCIA
so I couldn't copy spd31.exe onto it that way.  Some of the files and
directories are still there, they are just scrambled and some have
substituted letters with random characters.

I decided to try Transfile because my copy of zip212 on the PC card was
corrupted or whatever.  The palmtop doesn't respond on the settings I
normally use it on, on either serial ports on any of my three desktops.
What do I need to do?

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Hi,

I've been using the SHASS - Shopping List Assistance on my 100LX for the =
last couple of weeks and I'm quite pleased with it. (Got it from =
S.U.P.E.R.)
I tried to get it registered to be able to print but all the contact =
addresses are no longer available. I searched the internet by SHASS and =
name of the company but found no other information besides SUPER.
Does anyone know if this product as been bought/developped by another =
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Manuel

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Hello!

I want to use 123 to transform automatically percents in points:

% 30 60 90 100
P  1  2  3   4

When I have say 40% 123 should give me the 2-P-value.
Who can give me a hint?

                Thanks in advance Klaus.
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:11:57 -0400, CT Hildreth <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET=
> wrote:

 > My question in short:  Does a DS 200LX need spd31.exe running to make =
proper
 > use of the serial port?  And, if running a DS palmtop without spd31.exe
 > screws with the serial port is there any low baud rate it will run on
 > temporarily, just so I can get spd31.exe across to it?

The driver is needed to for the serial port as well as the display,
timers, and a couple other things. To get the driver onto a clean
machine, you can either use a memory card which will always work, or
the serial cable by setting the baud rate of the desktop to twice
the baud rate of the palmtop. The procedure is described in more
detail on my web site (follow the link to hardware upgrades).

Tom
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> % 30 60 90 100
> P  1  2  3   4
>
> When I have say 40% 123 should give me the 2-P-value.
> Who can give me a hint?

I can.  You want the HLOOKUP function, if you arrange the
values as shown.  I typically use VLOOKUP myself, but they
are very similar.  Should be available under the HELP screen.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:15:34 -0500
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> The driver is needed to for the serial port as well as the display,
> timers, and a couple other things.

If I remember from my first 2X crystal upgrade kit, I thought the
serial port actually works just fine, however at 2x the specified
baud rate.  Obviously the screen won't work quite right, but I
thought it was possible to send data over the serial port before
the 2X driver gets installed, as long as you take this into account.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:37:54 -0400
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Since I am always amazed at the members of this group and their depth =
and breadth of knowledge, I have a question from my daughter that I =
can't answer that I hope you can help with. (She thinks I know =
everything, so don't let me down!) (Actually, she is looking over my =
shoulder as I write this).

My question to the group is: There is a poem called "In My Uncertainty", =
and I am trying to find out the author, and is there a place on the www =
where poems (and poets) can be researched?

Any help would be great.

Thanks

Jim

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Date:         Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:23:18 -0400
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Well Hi again;
Boy I'm just havin a blast with this 200LX, guess I'm gonna have to put out
the cash for the programmers ref manual and CD. Anyway, here is my latest
thought;
Since we can decrease the size of the physical ram, and thus increase the
size of the ram disk, this tells me that the ram being adjusted is
continuous ram space. If so, why not write an app to do the opposite,
decrease the ram disk and increase the physical ram. If the physical ram
could be increased as continuous ram, then there are small drivers which can
let DOS see and use the extra ram, thus increasing total useable physical
ram, just like we used to do on the good old XT desktop puters.

Thoughts on this?????

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:30:54 +0200
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Hi Philippe,

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:21:07 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this neat feature when entering calendar events. It's called
> t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
> is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common words?

Quick/LX by D&A Software is probably what you're loooking for.
You can define a list of common words that shall be completed. It also
learns new words on the fly, AFAIK.

GTX
daniel

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Sorry but this was too good to miss:

<<
This message comes from a graduate of the Univerisity of Oklahoma
Chemical Engineering Department via an acquaintance of mine who sends
out a "Daily Silly" to a large group of people.  It cites one of
Dr.Schlambaugh's final test questions for his final exam for 1997.

İNote: Dr. Schlambaugh is known for asking questions on his finals
like:"Why do airplanes fly?"¨

In May 1997, the Momentum, Heat, and Mass Transfer II final exam
question was: "Is Hell exothermic or endothermic?  Support your answer
with a proof."

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's
Law or some variant thereof.  One student, however, wrote the following:
"First, we postulate that if souls exist, they must have some
mass.  If they do, then a mole of souls also must have a mass.  So, at
what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving?
"I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it does not
leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.  As for souls entering Hell,
let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today.
Some religions say that if you are not a member of that religion, you
will go to Hell.  Since there are more than one of these religions, and
people do not belong to more than one religion,  we can project that all
people and all souls go to Hell.

"With the  birth and death rates what they are, we can expect
the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at
the rate of change in the volume of Hell.  Boyle's Law states that in
order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the
ratio of the mass of the souls and volume needs to stay constant.

 "A1)  So, if Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which
souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will
increase until all Hell breaks loose.

 "A2)  Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the
increase in souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop
until Hell freezes over. So which is it?

"If we accept the postulate given to me by Theresa Banyan during
my freshman year, that 'It'll be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with
you," and taking into account that I still have not succeeded in having
sexual relations with her, then A2) cannot be true..., thus, Hell is
exothermic."

The student, Tim Graham, got the only A.
>>

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:29:09 -0400
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What can anyone tell me about a IBM PC110?

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:28:25 0200
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Hi all!

I enjoy using everything build-in in the HP and only after it trying to l=
ook
for something extra.

So somehow cclxPOP & lxmta  are not functioning everytime properly. As to
"send" - I most of all succeed. But have big problems with "receive". Som=
etimes
I receive some messages but most often get "Bad Checksum" error. Earlier =
I used
those programs from DOS & WC jumping from one pane with DOSTCP to cclxPOP=
. Then
had the similar problems too. Now I work from Appmngr.

Contacted with ISP - everybody had forgot "that DOS" long ago and are
dissatified with my interest. And no DOSPPP specialists around.

Maybe you'll be of any help?
I'm using the latest versions of those products.

TIA
PS. Please forgive mine English.


   Cheers !
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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:21:07 -0700
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What programs/drivers ever increased the total physical RAM above 640k in the
"good old XT desktop puters"?

To my knowledge, all the old programs just created bank-switched memory for EMS
or some other spec that was usable for program data only (and only for programs
coded to use it), and this we can already do.  If your LX was upgraded with
memory from Times2Tech or Thaddeus, it should have included EMS drivers that
allow the extra memory to be used as LIM 4.0 EMS.

But your real executable memory area is still about 640K (even with a 96mb
memory upgrade), because the problem is the limited range of memory
addressibility possible with a 80186 processor.

- Longden





Ron Stalma <rstalma@ZTRAIN.COM> on 10/05/2000 07:23:18 PM

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Since we can decrease the size of the physical ram, and thus increase the
size of the ram disk, this tells me that the ram being adjusted is
continuous ram space. If so, why not write an app to do the opposite,
decrease the ram disk and increase the physical ram. If the physical ram
could be increased as continuous ram, then there are small drivers which can
let DOS see and use the extra ram, thus increasing total useable physical
ram, just like we used to do on the good old XT desktop puters.

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> Since we can decrease the size of the physical ram,
> and thus increase the size of the ram disk, this tells me
> that the ram being adjusted is continuous ram space.
> If so, why not write an app to do the opposite, decrease
> the ram disk and increase the physical ram. If the physical
> ram could be increased as continuous ram, then there are
> small drivers which can let DOS see and use the extra ram,
> thus increasing total useable physical ram, just like we used
> to do on the good old XT desktop puters.
>
> Thoughts on this?????

The problem is that DOS was written for a cpu that only had 1 meg
address space, so it was written to only be able to use one meg.
Part of that meg isn't ram but is ROM bios and part is video ram and
part is usually unused address space.

If you remember the XT days, the only way to go above 640k was to
use expanded memory.  That was usually in the form of a card with
some ram on it and a memory management chip that would let you see
selected 16k blocks of that ram in a 64k window above the 640k but
still within the 1 meg address space of the CPU.  That can be done
on the 200lx since it has hardware to do bank switching that, with a
special driver, can be made to emulate expanded memory.

Later, in the AT, we also had extended memory.  The 286 of the AT
could see memory above one meg, even though Dos wasn't written to
use it.  So a special driver could be written, or hardware memory
managers could be used to move things into and out of that memory
dynamically.  Some programs even included some protected mode code
that could use that memory directly.  The XT couldn't do this.  The
200lx is really an XT although it does have many AT features.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:11:03 -0700
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Like the LX it is obsolete
It runs W95
It can do most things a desktop can do
It is the smalest hand held that doo win.
what do yu wanna know?



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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:21:25 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Brown, William wrote:
> Sorry but this was too good to miss:

Sorry, I disagree.

> In May 1997, the Momentum, Heat, and Mass Transfer II final exam
> question was: "Is Hell exothermic or endothermic?  Support your answer
> with a proof."

As good a story this is (I enjoyed it when I first saw it a year ago) I
really don't want to see this list turn into a joke forum.  Remember,
many of us read the list on our HPLXs and many of them have not been
expanded.  Large amounts of off topic material just adds to the space
problem.

Also I don't want to wade thru too much Fluff just to find the on topic
good stuff.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:19:19 -0400
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Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>

> Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this neat
feature when entering calendar events. It's called
> t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain
combination of digits (to spell out words).

That is funny how something one person likes, and the next person doesn't.
Well I am going to be the next person on this subject.  I also have a
Samsung SCH-850 internet phone, and it has the t9word feature, and I hate
it.  I find that everytime I need to enter a name, I switch from the t9word
mode to the alpha mode.  I got tired of fighting with the t9word mode
because it would end up with a word that was not the word I wanted to type
in.  Just my two cents.

Best Regards,

Robert Hocking

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:06:42 -0400
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Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
(NICS) in the palmtop.

The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
PTP.

Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
for about $69.

- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.

- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
interested in your own account if you actually used another
card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.

Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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I was looking at a Xircom NE2000 comtabile ethernet card a whle ago. It is a
PCMCIA adapter+CF combination and is made for windoes CE devices.  I have
one in my office and will try it to see if the LX drivers can 'see' it.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
>Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Network adapters for Palmtop
>
>
>Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
>(NICS) in the palmtop.
>
>The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
>of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
>how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
>PTP.
>
>Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
>for about $69.
>
>- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
>them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
>they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
>email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.
>
>- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
>know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
>interested in your own account if you actually used another
>card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.
>
>Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!
>
>  Avi M. İD&A¨
>  http://www.dasoft.com
>
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hello,

I am looking for a comfortable solution to select different Dial up
numbers / ISP's when using HV / WWW/LX.
It is very easy with Post/LX, with the use of shift/F5 I can choose
different settings. But how can I do this with HV?
I am quite sure there are some specialists on the list who can help me,
and I apologize if this question was disussed a lot before I was on the
list.

Werner



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-----Original Message-----
From: James Henry İmailto:jhenry@comcastbusiness.com¨
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:17 PM
To: 'HPLX Mailing List'; 'sponsor@FTEL.NET'
Subject: RE: Network adapters for Palmtop


I ordered mine from Compusa and got it just 2 days later.  Now, if only I
could do more than just ping with it!  anyone know how to log on to a NT
network with it?


-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of A
Meshar
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Network adapters for Palmtop


Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
(NICS) in the palmtop.

The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
PTP.

Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
for about $69.

- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.

- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
interested in your own account if you actually used another
card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.

Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:35:14 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
> for about $69.
>
> - Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
> them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
> they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
> email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.

$69 is high. There are a number of places that say they have them in
stock. Try www.shopper.com and search for en2216-1. Lowest price was $40.
Most are $55 and up.

There were a bunch lately on ebay, going for about $20, but nothing
currently.

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And thus the great era of "control what will be posted to the list" came once
again...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Is Hell Exothermic or Endothermic


> Brown, William wrote:
> > Sorry but this was too good to miss:
>
> Sorry, I disagree.
>
> > In May 1997, the Momentum, Heat, and Mass Transfer II final exam
> > question was: "Is Hell exothermic or endothermic?  Support your answer
> > with a proof."
>
> As good a story this is (I enjoyed it when I first saw it a year ago) I
> really don't want to see this list turn into a joke forum.  Remember,
> many of us read the list on our HPLXs and many of them have not been
> expanded.  Large amounts of off topic material just adds to the space
> problem.
>
> Also I don't want to wade thru too much Fluff just to find the on topic
> good stuff.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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>

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:11:18 +0200
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Hoi,

06.10.2000, 21:05, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU wrote:

> I am looking for a comfortable solution to select different Dial up
> numbers / ISP's when using HV / WWW/LX.

I configured www that hv is started when www is launched (in the İGlobal¨
section, there is Command=3Df:\bin\hv\hv.exe). www accepts the name of your
provider setup (the ones in the İSetup¨ section in www.cfg) as the 1st
argument.

www dusnet

starts www, dialing in to the provider dusnet, and starts hv then.

You can make a little batch file to e.g. power up and down your modem with
lxcic, if you want. My batch file 3.bat is:

lxcic/w
c:\bin\www\ %1
lxcic/o

If I want to dial in with dusnet, I type 3 dusnet.

Hope this helps

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:23:37 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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It's the Xircom "compactcard etherenet 10". It's a compact flash ethernet
card with an include PCMCIA adapter. I tried loading the same drivers as I
used with the Aacton card and they load w/out error. I then tried ping but
can't get responses. It could be that my setup is wrong as I haven't tried
it in a long time.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ed Padin İmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
>Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:15 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Network adapters for Palmtop
>
>
>I was looking at a Xircom NE2000 comtabile ethernet card a
>whle ago. It is a
>PCMCIA adapter+CF combination and is made for windoes CE
>devices.  I have
>one in my office and will try it to see if the LX drivers can 'see' it.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
>>Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Network adapters for Palmtop
>>
>>
>>Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
>>(NICS) in the palmtop.
>>
>>The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
>>of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
>>how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
>>PTP.
>>
>>Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
>>for about $69.
>>
>>- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
>>them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
>>they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
>>email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.
>>
>>- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
>>know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
>>interested in your own account if you actually used another
>>card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.
>>
>>Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!
>>
>>  Avi M. İD&A¨
>>  http://www.dasoft.com
>>
>>** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>>
>
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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              Nathalie might say)
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Colin Thompson wrote on 10/5/00 2:32 am:

>As many on=20
>this list know, one of the=20
>primary functions of my=20
>200LX is to run the PC Study=20
>Bible suite. =20

Maybe this has been asked before, but how does that program compare to =
the Online Bible, which has similar features, but it's free?

>Outside=20
>of general geekness, the=20
>reason for acquiring a=20
>replacement 100LX and 20=20
>meg flash card was to run=20
>the PC Study Bible suite.=20

Same here, except my choices were the Online Bible plus InfoSelect

>While the=20
>TRG Pro has replaced my=20
>beloved 200LX in many=20
>areas, the 200LX is still "THE=20
>PORTABLE BIBLE REFERENCE=20
>MACHINE".

I also prefer my Hplx to my TrgPro, but I find that frequent use of my =
Hplx, particularly in dim light, it's hard on my eyes, so I tend to do =
general text reading on my TrgPro.

>For the record, I do=20
>pay attention to, and=20
>observe the traditional=20
>Israelite Holy Days and=20
>Feasts.

Just curious, would you happen to be a member of the Worldwide Church of =
God (of the late Amstrong)?

>The bottom line is the=20
>primary function of my=20
>200LX today is to run Bible=20
>software.  I am a self=20
>confessed computer junkie,=20
>but my 200LX's primary=20
>function is to support my=20
>Christian religious belief.

Personally, I used to think computers were fancy toys, until I =
discovered you could do really fast Bible research on one.

As far as the Natalie situation, I kind of took offence, particularly =
since the hplx community, both in comp.sys.palmtops, where it used to =
dominate, and here, has been the most interesting, gregarious, tolerant, =
polite, and pleasant community I ever found in all my years on the net =
(which for me is about twelve years).   But I felt it not worth =
pursuing.

Domingo

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Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:31:38 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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    =20
            Dear Ken:=20

            Have no fear, Hallowin deals are here! Purchase an HP =
ScanJet 2100 scanner for only $1 when you buy an HP Pavilion 8775C PC, =
8755C or 6735 and an M50 15" monitor. Go to the Product Spotlight =
section of this newsletter to check out the details of this great offer. =
=20
    =20


Got the above message in an e-mail from HP.  What is Hallowin???????

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            face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
size=3D1><B>Have no fear,=20
            Hallowin deals are here! Purchase an HP ScanJet 2100 scanner =
for=20
            only $1 when you buy an <A=20
            href=3D"http://hpsv1.m0.net/m/s.asp?H2260180491X871222">HP =
Pavilion=20
            8775C PC, 8755C or 6735 and an M50 15" monitor</A>. Go to =
the=20
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the=20
            details of this great offer.=20
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Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:38:39 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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From: "hobchi" <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>


> Like the LX it is obsolete

Who says the hp200lx is obsolete?  It is only obsolete when the user says it
is obsolete.  Right now there are a lot of users who don't feel it is
obsolete (i.e. they are still using it.)  If it meets there needs of the
user...it is not obsolete.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:46:30 -0400
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              Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
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I contacted Accton last month about getting a spare
dongle for an EN2216-1, and they told me to go to
www.lanmarket.com which had the cable at the same price
as a rebuilt entire package.

The www page seems to have changed slightly since the last
time I looked, which would imply that they are still trying to be
in business.

They currently claim a price of $25 for refurbished, and $40 for new.

Ebay sold several of these in the last month or so for about
$15-30.

You might try contacting ricscomp@worldnet.att.net
He sold a bunch of these on ebay, and might be able to get
more of them.

Good luck...

/jack

-----Original Message-----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM
Subject: Network adapters for Palmtop


>Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
>(NICS) in the palmtop.
>
>The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
>of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
>how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
>PTP.
>
>Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
>for about $69.
>
>- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
>them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
>they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
>email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.
>
>- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
>know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
>interested in your own account if you actually used another
>card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.
>
>Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!
>
>  Avi M. İD&A¨
>  http://www.dasoft.com
>
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>
>

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:30:07 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
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Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
In-Reply-To:  <200010061806.OAA16602@spdmraaa.compuserve.com>; from A Meshar on
              Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:06:42PM -0400
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using lxcic and the accton packet driver, the family of socket
communications cards work although they are a bit costl, comming
in at about $100 or so.

--francois

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:06:42PM -0400, A Meshar wrote:
> Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
> (NICS) in the palmtop.
>
> The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
> of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
> how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
> PTP.
>
> Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
> for about $69.
>
> - Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
> them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
> they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
> email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.
>
> - Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
> know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
> interested in your own account if you actually used another
> card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.
>
> Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:56:03 -0400
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      Re: PC110?
Comments: To: Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <002201c02b1e$6a5a7420$7310f4d0@beld.net>

Actually to be technical it is obsolete, see #2 below. In general if you described the hardware level of an hp200lx to anyone
that is familiar with computer hardware they would state that it is very obsolete. On a personal level you, and others, still
find it useful so you do not deem it obsolete but to the general populas it would be deemed obsolete, just as would a horse
and buggy, a biplane, or a steam driven locomotive.

Obsolete:

1.Abbr. obs. No longer in use: an obsolete word. See Synonyms at old.
2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.
3.Biology. Vestigial or imperfectly developed, especially in comparison with other individuals or related species; not clearly
marked or seen; indistinct. Used of an organ or other part of an animal or a plant.


Pete

On 30 Sep 2000, at 16:38, Ken wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hobchi" <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
>
>
> > Like the LX it is obsolete
>
> Who says the hp200lx is obsolete?  It is only obsolete when the user says it
> is obsolete.  Right now there are a lot of users who don't feel it is
> obsolete (i.e. they are still using it.)  If it meets there needs of the
> user...it is not obsolete.
>
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>




Peter W. Borders

Information Technology Specialist I - ENTRY LEVEL
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:39:25 -0400
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>What programs/drivers ever increased the total physical RAM above 640k in
the
>"good old XT desktop puters"?

>To my knowledge, all the old programs just created bank-switched memory for
EMS
>or some other spec that was usable for program data only (and only for
programs
>coded to use it), and this we can already do.  If your LX was upgraded with
>memory from Times2Tech or Thaddeus, it should have included EMS drivers
that
>allow the extra memory to be used as LIM 4.0 EMS.

>- Longden


Well;
      Since I don't yet have a tech reference on the 200LX,  I am not sure
of exactly how the memory is mapped. I have a few different utilities to
check, but they are not consistant in that they all come up with different
info on the memory map of the LX. I suppose this is because they were
written for an XT, not the 200LX.
      Anyway, I used to be able to add an extra 64k of memory to the 640k on
my XT's. As far as I know there were two ways to do . The first was to use a
driver that will map in 64k from an enhanced expanded memory board, starting
at memory address A000, then the driver makes it available, adding the extra
64k to the base 640k memory. My AST emm board worked in this situation.
Now,, since we apparently can not use this method because of the EMM in our
LX is not mappable and the window is only 16k instead of a continous 64k.
        The second way might be feasable on the LX, but as of yet I am not
sure of what's goin on in the memory mapping of the LX yet. I will try to
explain how it worked in an XT........
        We know that for DOS to have 640K of main memory, the 640K occupies
RAM addresses 0000 to 9FFF. Segments beginning at A000 (the next segment
above 9FFF) are not normaly assigned to DOS. However, 64K to 96K of
addresses beginning at A000 are often unused on PC's (Is it on the LX?).  On
an old XT machine equipped with a monochrome display adapter (MDA), display
memory begun at segment B000, leaving 64K open from A000-AFFF; on a machine
equipped with a color graphics adapter (CGA which the LX has), display
memory begun at segment B800, leaving 96K open from A000-B7FF. It is
possible to force the system to assign memory for these addresses ( IF IT IS
PHYSICLY INSTALLED) and to convince DOS that the memory so assigned is
usable by the system, resulting in as much as 736K of DOS-usable memory. It
works, I used todo it. Also, the DIP switches on most old XT's machines were
limited to a maximum of 640K switch-settable; to go beyond this, it's
necessary for the software override the switch settings.

} RON {

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:03:24 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: "In My Uncertainty"
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>My question to the group is: There is a poem called "In My Uncertainty",
>and I am trying to find out the author, and is there a place on the www
>where poems (and poets) can be researched?

You may want to check out http://www.poets.org , where you can find a poet,
find a poem, and there are discussion forums.

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              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Is Hell Exothermic or Endothermic
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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>Brown, William wrote:
>>  Sorry but this was too good to miss:
>
>Sorry, I disagree.

I agree with your disagreement.

>  > In May 1997, the Momentum, Heat, and Mass Transfer II final exam
>>  question was: "Is Hell exothermic or endothermic?  Support your answer
>>  with a proof."
>
>As good a story this is (I enjoyed it when I first saw it a year ago)

I enjoyed it first over 5 years ago, which is about 2 years before
the writer claimed that it happened....


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Avi,

Try this link. This is where I found the best price on my Accton
en2216-1. I didn't have any problem finding one.

http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/resellers/0-11629-311-365421.html?tag=st.sh.sr.pl.pr365421

William E. Blankenship

> Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
> for about $69.

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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
> Actually to be technical it is obsolete, see #2 below. In general if you
described the hardware level of an hp200lx to anyone
> that is familiar with computer hardware they would state that it is very
obsolete
> 2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.

When I compare the flexibility of the 200lx to any Windows CE machine...I
find Windows CE to be far inferior.

I have a long list of things I want from a pocket PC...none of which Windows
CE does.  The HP200lx is a very old device but it is a far superior device.
Yeah...the hp200lx may be outmoded in design compared to the devices out
today but the devices that are out today have a long way to go considered in
the same ball park as the 200lx.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:27:07 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Bible programs
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>200LX is to run the PC Study
>Bible suite.

Maybe this has been asked before, but how does that program compare to the
Online Bible, which has similar features, but it's free?

I don't know about the Online Bible.  PC Study Bible is a powerful suite
that comes with a Strong's Concordance, Treasury of Scripture Knowledge,
Vine's Expository Dictionary, Nave's Topical Bible and Nelson's Bible
Dictionary.  All are books are linked.  You can get the KJV, ASV, NASV, NRSV
and NIV in the DOS package.  The suite as I use it, with only the KJV takes
about 22 megs.  It's a bit slow on a standard machine but it rocks if you
run it on a Times2 LX.


Just curious, would you happen to be a member of the Worldwide Church of God
(of the late Amstrong)?

Nope.  I go to a free church, not a 501C-3 nonprofit corporation.  It's
called the Church at Kaweah.  You can hear the sermons at www.truthradio.com
at 7 AM pacific time on Sat and Sun.  Note that I do not endorse most of the
poo poo broadcast on Truth Radio.

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Subject:      FLUFF: Regarding Fluff... (Re: FLUFF: Is Hell Exothermic or
              Endothermic)
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Keeping it short... I recently rejoined a Public Relations List I haven't
seen in 5 years. I've been lurking, recognize no one AND, *190* messages
later, the most "on topic" things I've seen include "please evaluate this
website" (*close* to on-topic) and political candidate debate MAKEUP
comparisons(!). Yes, I mean rouge (sp?) ... It *once* was the home of lots
of serious PR discussion & advice, group discussion/problem solving and
serious, academic thought and ANSWERS to puzzles, questions, etc....

Sigh.

Hmmmm. The *good* part, above, sounds like the HPLX Mailing List--Thank
heavens for *this* list!

--tim
PS. I've got an LX question too, but will post it soon, under a dif.
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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:22:38 -0400
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      Re: PC110?
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Yes but personal preferences do not factor into if something is obsolete. If a device is made of outdated components and
especially if a device is no longer made then it is generally considered obsolete. That doesn't make it any less useful for
those who have a use for it.

Pete

On 30 Sep 2000, at 22:18, Ken wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
> > Actually to be technical it is obsolete, see #2 below. In general if you
> described the hardware level of an hp200lx to anyone
> > that is familiar with computer hardware they would state that it is very
> obsolete
> > 2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.
>
> When I compare the flexibility of the 200lx to any Windows CE machine...I
> find Windows CE to be far inferior.
>
> I have a long list of things I want from a pocket PC...none of which Windows
> CE does.  The HP200lx is a very old device but it is a far superior device.
> Yeah...the hp200lx may be outmoded in design compared to the devices out
> today but the devices that are out today have a long way to go considered in
> the same ball park as the 200lx.
>
>
>




Peter W. Borders

Information Technology Specialist I - ENTRY LEVEL
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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<<
      Anyway, I used to be able to add an extra 64k of memory to the 640k on
my XT's. As far as I know there were two ways to do . The first was to use a
driver that will map in 64k from an enhanced expanded memory board, starting
at memory address A000, then the driver makes it available, adding the extra
64k to the base 640k memory. My AST emm board worked in this situation.
Now,, since we apparently can not use this method because of the EMM in our
LX is not mappable and the window is only 16k instead of a continous 64k.
        The second way might be feasable on the LX, but as of yet I am not
sure of what's goin on in the memory mapping of the LX yet. I will try to
explain how it worked in an XT........
        We know that for DOS to have 640K of main memory, the 640K occupies
RAM addresses 0000 to 9FFF. Segments beginning at A000 (the next segment
above 9FFF) are not normaly assigned to DOS. However, 64K to 96K of
addresses beginning at A000 are often unused on PC's (Is it on the LX?).  On
an old XT machine equipped with a monochrome display adapter (MDA), display
memory begun at segment B000, leaving 64K open from A000-AFFF; on a machine
equipped with a color graphics adapter (CGA which the LX has), display
memory begun at segment B800, leaving 96K open from A000-B7FF. It is
possible to force the system to assign memory for these addresses ( IF IT IS
PHYSICLY INSTALLED) and to convince DOS that the memory so assigned is
usable by the system, resulting in as much as 736K of DOS-usable memory. It
works, I used todo it. Also, the DIP switches on most old XT's machines were
limited to a maximum of 640K switch-settable; to go beyond this, it's
necessary for the software override the switch settings.
>>

My understanding is that the LX design took all the slack display memory areas
into account and they used/reserved it for the built-in apps and System Manager
functions.

On the first method, I wonder if the driver that mapped the extra 64k of memory
onto the EEM board did so at the expense of losing some display memory addresses
that weren't expected to be used.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 01:30:05 -0500
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I have recently purchased the Motorola StarTAC 7868 w/ the built-in web
browser and Data Connectivity cable, but have not been able to make it work
with my DS 200LX.  I am signed up for the web option and in fact using the
cell phone now to send this e-mail with my laptop.  But whenever I try and
connect with my LX (using WWW/LX), there's about a five to ten second pause
before it says "hanging up".  If I don't connect the cable at all, I get a
"modem not responding error", so it appears my cable is fine too.  Is there
a special init string I should be using?  Or maybe my setup is not
configured properly?  I currently have Modem Type as "External" and Baud
rate at "19200".

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks


At 04:31 PM 10/4/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Ed Padin <epadin@wagweb.com> wrote:
>
>> I got the starttac using verizon also. I haven't gotten the truesync kit
>> because I wasn't sure it would work. Is this what you're using?
>> expenive for a lousy little cable and some software!!! ($124 in my
>> area)
>
>Yes.  It is the StarTAC ST7868 phone and the Motorola "Data
>Connectivity Kit with TrueSync Software".  It was about $100+
>for me also.  It is a phone to DB9 cable that just needs the HP
>serial cable and the black DB9-DB9 adapter to connect the two
>cables.  The TrueSync software runs in Windows and works nicely
>to configure the phone and sync the phone's phone list with the
>PC, but is not needed to go online.
>
>> Do they charge extra to allow data access?
>> What's the speed like?
>> Do you have to get the web option enabled too?
>> Do you just dial your own ISP?
>
>There is no "data access" charge, but there is an extra monthly
>fee for enabling the web option (the mini-browser in the phone)
>and that is what allows the data to work also.  It is $6.95 per
>month with a special deal for the first 3 months free.  Of
>course, you also have to pay for the air time and toll charges
>as if it was a regular voice call.
>
>The speed is 14.4 kbps as indicated on the display of the
>phone.  That is all I have ever seen.  The throughput is the
>same as my desktop 14.4 modem using the same 19.2 kbps COM1
>speed setting connecting to the same CompuServe phone number.
>Virtually no difference.
>
>I don't even have a special phone book entry in either WWW/LX
>or acCIS for use with the cel phone.  I just use the desktop
>modem with land line or the cel phone as the situation calls
>for without any difference in the way I go online.  It could
>not be easier.  Even at home, I use the cel phone when the wife
>and kids have the phone lines tied up.
>
>When I am out of my local area, I usually dial the CompuServe
>800 number with the cel phone to save on toll charges,
>otherwise I always just call the local CIS node in NJ.
>
>
>Stan
>
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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:27:31 +0200
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Hi HP fans!

Maybe you as nobody else know DOS.

Recently I've met with one problem. Decided to install Lith.-Eng. dictionary
 my shabby 100LX. But it does not run from any floppy disk & was not fooled
 "Assign" so I had to use "subst". Occasionaly I found it as those, awailabl
to download are of not correct DOS version, or my machine does not accept it
Finally I got the one of proper version.

So now that dictionary works, but the "autoexec.bat" - doesn't. And I can't
nd the reason. None of installed programs find their folder. So I have to go
om DOS go to proper folder and only then I can launch the program. :((
From appmngr. everything functions, but not from the DOS prompt.

OK. In the autoexec I have path. E.g. a:\lala;a:\lulu;a:\kuku and then I've
anged to e:\blabla;e:\blublu; etc. But does not work either.

Than placed "subst E: A:\" higher in the autoexec. Now Buddy started to work
t the path - Not.

Any ideas, comments, tips, hints?

PS. Pardon for my poor English.

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v4.03) EXPIRED

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:57:39 -0500
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Hello All,

I just thought I would report some good and bad news on the IBM 1Gig cards.
First the bad news. If you using rechargables and your batteries are low
then it will go into backup mode if you try to use the card. I doubt it will
work with alkalines very well, but that remains to be seen.

The good news is that it seems to work fine when plugged in or when my Nimh
batteries are fully charged. The batteries take a pretty big dip when
accessing the card, but the card goes back into sleep mode fairly quickly. I
am only able to access the card with the use of my ATA driver, though, as
the palmtop doesn't seem to recognize the card automatically.

I have copied 20-30MBs of stuff to it so far without any problems with the
card and chkdsk reports everything to be ok.

Well that's all for now. I'll report back power consumption when I have time
to measure it.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:16:46 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Who says the hp200lx is obsolete?  It is only obsolete
> when the user says it is obsolete.  Right now there are
> a lot of users who don't feel it is obsolete (i.e. they are
> still using it.)  If it meets there needs of the
> user...it is not obsolete.

I guess I'm "the user" as much as anyone else so I'll decide when
the LX is obsolete.  It'll be when my eyesight is such that I have
to have a backlit screen.

I'm almost 60 and I've had cataract surgery on both eyes in recent
years so both lenses are new and especially good at transmitting
light.  If you want to know how long it'll take for them to dim, I
guess the answer is to be found in chemistry.  I know nothing about
chemistry but I'm sure some of you do and can give an educated guess
about this.

Of course there's the possibility that as I age I'll gradually lose
my memory and begin to forget to wash my glasses.  That could bring
the time of obsolesence closer.  For an educated guess about that
time frame we'll have to depend on the medical people among you.

But, for the real answer, not just a guess.....I'll let you know
when the time comes.

Barry

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> From:    Ron Stalma <rstalma@ZTRAIN.COM>
> Subject: Re: Another Hairbrained Idea!

I just put your name and subject there rather than repeat the entire
message.

You described 2 methods of increasing the memory.  The first was EMS
and the palmtop can do that.  Yes the banks are 16k but I believe
that EMS was 4 16k blocks too.  If not, 4 blocks can be remapped at
once.

The LX has memory management hardware similar in function to EMS
hardware except that it works on the entire memory of the system (I
don't know about the upgraded 200lxs).  This was included so that
more than one meg can be used.  The ram and rom total more than 1
meg, obviously.  So your method number one can be used and I believe
there are drivers that can do this.  In the later days of the XT the
LIM standard came into place and I don't know if the drivers will
emulate that standard.  I haven't used them and it's been many years
since I've concerned myself with ems.

Your second method seems logical but I've never heard of that being
done on an XT.  Is this something you've actually seen?  It is
similar to the way it's done with a 386 and a driver like 386 Max.

Barry

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It is possible to force the system to assign
> memory for these addresses ( IF IT IS
> PHYSICLY INSTALLED) and to convince
> DOS that the memory so assigned is
> usable by the system, resulting in as much
> as 736K of DOS-usable memory. Itworks,
> I used todo it.

I just sent a post saying I never heard of this actually being done,
but right after hitting send I remembered the Tandy 1100fd laptop,
which did this.  I'm sure it wasn't the only one.

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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> I guess I'm "the user" as much as anyone else so I'll decide when
> the LX is obsolete.  It'll be when my eyesight is such that I have
> to have a backlit screen.


My wife bought me an HP545 for our anniversary...it has backlighting and is
not any easier to read.  There are some apps on the hp545 where you can't
enlarge the letters.  My advice...stick with 200lx and get the magnify
program (if it is still available).  I got the program many years ago but
the vendor I got it from went the way out of business.

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:25:08 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (1) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging.

(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:49:23 -0400
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              rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:15:34 -0500, Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com> wrote:

 > If I remember from my first 2X crystal upgrade kit, I thought the
 > serial port actually works just fine, however at 2x the specified
 > baud rate.  Obviously the screen won't work quite right, but I
 > thought it was possible to send data over the serial port before
 > the 2X driver gets installed, as long as you take this into account.

This is correct - actually, I think that's what I wrote in my post. :-)

Tom
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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:49:30 -0400
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:21:10 -0700, "Roberto Civati" <roberto.civati@galact=
ica.it> wrote:

 > Can Tom, or anybody else, explain in details what is needed and what =
can
 > be done with such a setup?
 > Probably the same performances (or better) than Nokia 9110?

Well, first you can only use WWWW/LX via the infrared port, and
therefore are limited to the functionality of this product. However,
this is no real limitation because it does everything one can
possible want to do, including email, newsgroups, limited web
browsing, and SMS sending and receiving. You can't do faxes except
by using one of the free web fax services.

If you use a serial cable (which most GSM phones with IR and built-in
modem support) to connect the phone to COM1 of the palmtop, you can
use every software which can talk to a normal modem at COM1, including
fax software and probably all of the freeware and shareware email
programs for the 200LX.

Tom
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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:06:40 -0400
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Has anyone experimented with using the Metricom Ricochet wireless modem and
the LX?  It's a 128kbps wireless internet service.  I just bought it for my
laptop, but it comes with both a USB and a serial connector for it. The unit
itself is no bigger than the LX and runs on AC or 6 hr battery life with
built in rechargeable Lithium battery.  This will work out well for me if I
can get it to work with my 200LX.

Jim

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 13:33:20 -0700
Reply-To:     hobchi@juno.com
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is the LX obsolete? (is this fluff)? NO!
Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Hi Barry
to ask an olde time re use of da LX.
Wat do ye use da LX fer, exactly.
kourious.

yor pal al.................

--- Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> > Who says the hp200lx is obsolete?  It is only obsolete
> > when the user says it is obsolete.  Right now there are
> > a lot of users who don't feel it is obsolete (i.e. they
> are
> > still using it.)  If it meets there needs of the
> > user...it is not obsolete.
>
> I guess I'm "the user" as much as anyone else so I'll
> decide when
> the LX is obsolete.  It'll be when my eyesight is such
> that I have
> to have a backlit screen.
>
> I'm almost 60 and I've had cataract surgery on both eyes
> in recent
> years so both lenses are new and especially good at
> transmitting
> light.  If you want to know how long it'll take for them
> to dim, I
> guess the answer is to be found in chemistry.  I know
> nothing about
> chemistry but I'm sure some of you do and can give an
> educated guess
> about this.
>
> Of course there's the possibility that as I age I'll
> gradually lose
> my memory and begin to forget to wash my glasses.  That
> could bring
> the time of obsolesence closer.  For an educated guess
> about that
> time frame we'll have to depend on the medical people
> among you.
>
> But, for the real answer, not just a guess.....I'll let
> you know
> when the time comes.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:50:02 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> Actually to be technical it is obsolete, see #2 below.
> Obsolete:
> 2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.

Yes, but then we need to look up "outmoded".  My palmtop's Collin's =
dictionary
has two definitions:
1. no longer fashionable or widely accepted
2. no longer practical or usable

The 200LX may meet definition 1 and thus be obsolete, but we are now down =
to the
vagarities of fashion.  My palmtop is still practical and usable.  As =
evidence
I present this E-mail.   I typed and spell-checked it on my 200LX.  I =
looked up
the word "outmoded" on my palmtop while typing this message.  Next, I =
will send
it via my 200LX and PCMCIA modem to the list.

If you really want to convince me that the 200LX is obsolete, show me a =
newer
machine with this size and battery life that will do all that my 200LX =
will do
<g>.

Are the pyramids of Giza obsolete? They were built to be tombs that would =
last
for eternity.  They are truly "old technology".  But, will anything we =
have
built in this "high tech" century last as long?  We probably _could_ =
build
something as long-lasting, but until we actually do I don't feel they are
obsolete.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 19:33:16 -0400
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              LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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I have an 8MB DS 200LX. it worked quite well, but recently
started giving me false low battery warnings. Even when I have
new alkaline batteries in, it will still say "Main batteries
low, press esc" continually.

I have tried taking all batteries out and leaving it for a few
days. No luck.

Is this a software or hardware problem, and is it repairable?

I am a bit worried because my present (and only) working
200LX. another 8MB DS machine, also gave me a low battery
warning yesterday evening even though ABC/LX said that I had
2.43V. On the other hand, battlog put my battery voltage at
2.38V -- a difference of .05V. Why the big difference, and
which one is more accurate?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Ka Tai

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Date:         Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:02:53 +0200
Reply-To:     davidb@netmedia.net.il
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Any lxmta Gurus here?
Comments: To: alchoma@IS.LT

Algis Ch. writes:
> Hi all!
>
> I enjoy using everything build-in in the HP and only after it trying to look
> for something extra.
>
> So somehow cclxPOP & lxmta  are not functioning everytime properly. As to
> "send" - I most of all succeed. But have big problems with "receive". Sometimes
> I receive some messages but most often get "Bad Checksum" error. Earlier I used
> those programs from DOS & WC jumping from one pane with DOSTCP to cclxPOP. Then
> had the similar problems too. Now I work from Appmngr.

If you are working from app manager try running from a "locked" dos box. i.e.
int the comment field of the application description put an upside down "!"
(function Filer).

This will prevent application manager from interfering with the serial port
as it tends to do sometime. Also be more specific as to reporting error messages
When do they occur? during which program?


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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 01:40:11 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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Colin Thompson wrote on 10/6/00 10:27 pm:

>I don't know about the Online=20
>Bible.  PC Study Bible is a=20
>powerful suite that comes=20
>with a Strong's Concordance,=20
>Treasury of Scripture=20
>Knowledge, Vine's=20
>Expository Dictionary,=20
>Nave's Topical Bible and=20
>Nelson's Bible Dictionary.  All=20
>are books are linked.  You=20
>can get the KJV, ASV, NASV,=20
>NRSV and NIV in the DOS=20
>package.  The suite as I use=20
>it, with only the KJV takes=20
>about 22 megs.  It's a bit slow=20
>on a standard machine but it=20
>rocks if you run it on a=20
>Times2 LX.

Oh, it sounds similar to Quick Verse in functions.  The report on that =
program was also that it was slow on a stock machine.   The Online Bible =
is fast on a stock machine, with similar features.=20

Thanks for your answer.

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 01:40:18 -0400
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Ken wrote on 10/7/00 12:32 pm:

>My wife bought me an=20
>HP545 for our=20
>anniversary...it has=20
>backlighting and is not any=20
>easier to read.=20

That's interesting.  I find my TrgPro easier to read, though that's =
somewhat a function of font size (I tend to use DOS programs more that =
Sysmgr programs on my HPLX) and backlighting.

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:23:49 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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>Subject: Re: Bible programs

are bible progams no FLUFF ?

has this become a religious list or what ???

>I go to a free church, not a 501C-3 nonprofit corporation.  It's
>called the Church at Kaweah.  You can hear the sermons at
>www.truthradio.com at 7 AM pacific time on Sat and Sun.  Note that
>I do not endorse most of the poo poo broadcast on Truth Radio.

and i do not endorse your poo poo broadcast on this list

Nathalie
btw. here is why:

"Bon soir, Mlle Dr Nathalie.

 I'm xxxxx xxxx, residing near xxxx, TX (the state capital) and working in
the State Education Department in the area of research and program
evaluation.
 I'm a member of the local humanist society, I'm a fan of the Sagans, and
have been non-theist as long as I can remember.
 Thirty years ago I wanted to become a physician, but realized I did not
have the dedication needed. So I completed a doctorate in research and
statistics instead.
 I do not speak my beliefs around the office (or even socially) because many
persons with religious convictions are certain that a humanist cabal is in
control of the education system in this country. While this is not true, I
cannot remain effective if their paranoia is confirmed.
 I applaud your ventures and vocalizations on the HPLX-L list and look
forward to your every post. Thank you for making it interesting."
 ----

Are psudoscience and fear on the rise?  It seems to me the US of A won't be
able to hold the distinction "country of the free and brave" any more.

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:51:24 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Wed,  4 Oct 2000 18:41:04 -0500, Jeff wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Fryday wrote:
>
> > Just got this new Samsung 8500 SprintPCS cellphone and noticed this neat feature when entering calendar events. It's called
> > t9word: it find out the most common word associated with a certain combination of digits (to spell out words). My question
> > is, is there something similar for the LX, something to complete common words?
>
> I am curently using T9 on a Palm Vx. it's about the fastest text input
> method I have seen. The only problem is that Concept Kitchens no longers
> offers it and it won't run on a 3.5 OS Palm.

The problem with T9 is that you have to complete the word (anyway). I
have T9 on my Nokia 7110 and I use it a lot. But Quick/Lxc is better on
the Hplx because I do not have to complete the word.

Qucik/Lx is therefor better when you do not know the spelling, but only
the first letters. It is also quicker than T9. But there are no other
systems for cellular phones at the moment that are better than T9.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:51:29 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Tue,  3 Oct 2000 10:15:19 -0400, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Anyone used PCMCIA SCSI with their palmtop?
> > Anyone hooked up a Jazz drive?  I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop
> > just fine.  Having Jazz capability would be a real hoot
>
> I think the problem with a SCSI card in the palmtop was one of
> power (although the doubleslot would fix that), but also of
> drivers.  It may be tough to get DOS 5 drivers for the card
> that do not require a 386 or better processor and lots of
> memory.  Even if you could find the drivers, you may not have
> much RAM left for running applications.
>
> I would like to suggest an alternative that I use.  I have a
> 2GB ORB drive on my desktop PC that I can access very easily
> with my palmtop when I put a network card in my 200LX and
> access the shared drive on the PC.

Hmm..maybe I will try to get this to work again.

I bought a 2216/2 card which I use with my hub/win98 machine. I have
not looked into sharing drives yet. Could you post a 1.2.3 on how to do
that?

TIA

--
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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:51:29 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Fri,  6 Oct 2000 11:13:50 +0100, Brown, William wrote:

> Sorry but this was too good to miss:

A good one William :-))

Regards

--
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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 09:19:33 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: IBM 1Gig Card

   >I have copied 20-30MBs of stuff to it so far without any problems
   >with the card and chkdsk reports everything to be ok.
   >Well that's all for now. I'll report back power consumption when I
   >have time to measure it.
Message-Id: <20001008131946.QOSV18564.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@İ12.72.155.210¨>
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:19:51 +0000

That's great news Mack. And this is only IBM's 2nd cut at this drive so
maybe future versions will be even better.

I'll be interested in hearing about power consumption in continuous read
mode. A large database or reference texts at my fingertips would still be
very valuable even if my disk writes were limited.  I remember that the
drive's peak power figure was for write operation, but nothing was given
for read.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:52:35 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: science VS religion
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Sorry you are offended Nathalie.  This was part of a post requesting
information on a DOS program.  While I answered another question on the same
post, to label it "Fluff" would have been inappropriate due to the DOS
content.  Who appointed you as list manager and to the thought police?

Colin

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From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
Nathalie Bugeaud
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 2:24 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: FLUFF: science VS religion


>Subject: Re: Bible programs

are bible progams no FLUFF ?

has this become a religious list or what ???

>I go to a free church, not a 501C-3 nonprofit corporation.  It's
>called the Church at Kaweah.  You can hear the sermons at
>www.truthradio.com at 7 AM pacific time on Sat and Sun.  Note that
>I do not endorse most of the poo poo broadcast on Truth Radio.

and i do not endorse your poo poo broadcast on this list

Nathalie
btw. here is why:

"Bon soir, Mlle Dr Nathalie.

 I'm xxxxx xxxx, residing near xxxx, TX (the state capital) and working in
the State Education Department in the area of research and program
evaluation.
 I'm a member of the local humanist society, I'm a fan of the Sagans, and
have been non-theist as long as I can remember.
 Thirty years ago I wanted to become a physician, but realized I did not
have the dedication needed. So I completed a doctorate in research and
statistics instead.
 I do not speak my beliefs around the office (or even socially) because many
persons with religious convictions are certain that a humanist cabal is in
control of the education system in this country. While this is not true, I
cannot remain effective if their paranoia is confirmed.
 I applaud your ventures and vocalizations on the HPLX-L list and look
forward to your every post. Thank you for making it interesting."
 ----

Are psudoscience and fear on the rise?  It seems to me the US of A won't be
able to hold the distinction "country of the free and brave" any more.

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"Manuel M. Ramos" <manuel@STUDIO224.COM> wrote:

> I tried to get it registered to be able to print but all the
> contact addresses are no longer available

SHASS was written by an individual and is not a product of any
company that I am aware of.  Do the docs list the programmer's
name? I think his first name is Siroos.  I think he was from
Cherry Hill, NJ.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 09:58:26 -0400
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Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I have recently purchased the Motorola StarTAC 7868 w/ the built-in web
> browser and Data Connectivity cable, but have not been able to make it =
work
> with my DS 200LX

Since the phone works with your laptop, we know that your cable
works, your phone works and you have web enabled.  So, it must
be something on the palmtop/cable side.

Are you using the HP cable with the DB9-DB9 adapter (which is a
combination null modem and gender changer) to connect to the
phone's cable? Have you tried to just use the Datacomm
application to type a AT command to the phone and get the OK
response back? Then try to dial the phone number with a ATDT
command.  This all should work the same as a regular modem.

There is no init string needed with WWW/LX.  I use the same
settings I use with my desktop modem.  No init string, 19200
bps, external modem (COM1).


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 09:08:01 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Subject:      Re: Is the LX obsolete? (is this fluff)? NO!
Comments: To: hobchi@juno.com
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I'm a retired programmer.  I still play around with programming.
Not anything serious.  I just do little stuff to entertain myself.
But I don't want to sit at the desk and do it.  I do it on my front
porch or sitting in the park or while waiting for my meal to be
served in a restaurant or at a coffee shop or just whenever I get an
urge.

I still use another 200lx by the phone in the computer room to keep
track of registrations and logins and urls and phone numbers.
That's my only PDA use.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "hobchi" <hobchi@yahoo.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Is the LX obsolete? (is this fluff)? NO!


> Hi Barry
> to ask an olde time re use of da LX.
> Wat do ye use da LX fer, exactly.
> kourious.
>
> yor pal al.................
>
> --- Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> > > Who says the hp200lx is obsolete?  It is only obsolete
> > > when the user says it is obsolete.  Right now there are
> > > a lot of users who don't feel it is obsolete (i.e. they
> > are
> > > still using it.)  If it meets there needs of the
> > > user...it is not obsolete.
> >
> > I guess I'm "the user" as much as anyone else so I'll
> > decide when
> > the LX is obsolete.  It'll be when my eyesight is such
> > that I have
> > to have a backlit screen.
> >
> > I'm almost 60 and I've had cataract surgery on both eyes
> > in recent
> > years so both lenses are new and especially good at
> > transmitting
> > light.  If you want to know how long it'll take for them
> > to dim, I
> > guess the answer is to be found in chemistry.  I know
> > nothing about
> > chemistry but I'm sure some of you do and can give an
> > educated guess
> > about this.
> >
> > Of course there's the possibility that as I age I'll
> > gradually lose
> > my memory and begin to forget to wash my glasses.  That
> > could bring
> > the time of obsolesence closer.  For an educated guess
> > about that
> > time frame we'll have to depend on the medical people
> > among you.
> >
> > But, for the real answer, not just a guess.....I'll let
> > you know
> > when the time comes.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>
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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:02:09 -0500
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              Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Wireless Web
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Thanks for the suggestion, Stan.

I just tried using the DataComm application and successfully dialed out
using the cell phone.  I am actually using a cable that I made, so it's
connected directly to the StarTac cable (no null modem).  But I'm still
suspecting the cable because I when I connect it with a null modem, I can't
make a connection to my laptop (LapLink or Transfile).  I'm going to try
making a new cable..

Thanks again for the help!
Lonac

At 09:58 AM 10/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
>> I have recently purchased the Motorola StarTAC 7868 w/ the built-in web
>> browser and Data Connectivity cable, but have not been able to make it work
>> with my DS 200LX
>
>Since the phone works with your laptop, we know that your cable
>works, your phone works and you have web enabled.  So, it must
>be something on the palmtop/cable side.
>
>Are you using the HP cable with the DB9-DB9 adapter (which is a
>combination null modem and gender changer) to connect to the
>phone's cable? Have you tried to just use the Datacomm
>application to type a AT command to the phone and get the OK
>response back? Then try to dial the phone number with a ATDT
>command.  This all should work the same as a regular modem.
>
>There is no init string needed with WWW/LX.  I use the same
>settings I use with my desktop modem.  No init string, 19200
>bps, external modem (COM1).
>
>
>Stan
>
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>

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:22:57 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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10/08/00 11:42 am

Hi All:

   Interesting how "well wishes" to the HPLX-L have incited a
   flame war, actually I find it PRETTY SAD!

   This is starting to get way out of hand (either that or I am
   particularly sensitive today ;-) ).

   The purpose of this LIST is to discuss the HPLX DOS machines and
   programs therof. This would include HISWORD and similar programs, as
   well as the the DOS version of "The Complete Works of Carl Sagan".
   Can  we all lighten up a little? If you have a personal comment for
   someone, send it via personal mail and keep the HPLX-L a more
   pleasent place for the rest of us.

   Please try not to send inflamatory posts, or post that might offend
   to the LIST; also if you read a post that you find personally
   offensive, try to bear in mind that it was probably not meant to be.

   I allow a relatively high percentage of Off-Topic material, some say
   too much and have left, other's say it keeps the LIST interesting.
   Either way, I do have a low tolerence for flaming, please keep it
   off the LIST, Thank You.

   Cheers...AJK

*
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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:49:47 +0100
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              Richard McEvoy <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Another hairbrained idea!


> It is possible to force the system to assign
> > memory for these addresses ( IF IT IS
> > PHYSICLY INSTALLED) and to convince
> > DOS that the memory so assigned is
> > usable by the system, resulting in as much
> > as 736K of DOS-usable memory. Itworks,
> > I used todo it.
>
> I just sent a post saying I never heard of this actually being done,
> but right after hitting send I remembered the Tandy 1100fd laptop,
> which did this.  I'm sure it wasn't the only one.

I haven't followed this discussion and I'm not sure I'm referring to the
same thing as you refer to above, Barry, but my old XT has an Intel Above
Board 286. After installation in1988, I printed out the test result and
stuck it in the manual. It reads:-
"Testing page 96
Conventional memory 640 Kbytes
Expanded memory 1536 Kbytes
EMM Length 9696 Kbytes

EMM has been installed.
PLUS Hardcard Device Driver  Version 1.06 ( I had a PLUS  40mb internal
hardcard drive)
Copyright 1987 PLUS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
Quikmem2 RAM Disk Version 1.1
Copyright 1985 1987 Intel corporation
The QuikMem2 RAM disk is now successfully installed as Drive F:"

All of which made an appreciable difference to the performance of Wordstar
and Supercalc

HTH
Richard.

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:54:18 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: science VS religion
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I won't speak for Nathalie, and it's probably better that way :-)

But comments that are inflamatory to some might seem like a challenge to preconceived ideas to others. It's hard to draw
the line. If you feel that some of the comments are hurtful, they are still unlikely out of real spite or hatred. But I
think it's okay to pursue the matter off list. I personally do like to know that the people I'm speaking to on this list
are individuals with their own quirks, rather than everyone only showing their HPLX side.

On the same note, here's a reply I sent to another inquiring mind on this list:

"if you've been around the net for quite some time, you know that mailing lists
grow and breathe in all sorts of ways, but generally doesn't get too much out of
hand. when it does, a discussion will generally start about it, but it's rare:
lists are pretty much self-regulating, and other than sending attachments,
there's otherwise not much need for additional control. i would also venture to
say that while people like to talk about the topic at hand, they are also
looking for people to relate to and share themselves with, no matter what the
topic is. the list then becomes a community where the topic at hand is what ties
everyone together rather than restrain/restrict them. and that's what is so
wonderful about mailing lists: they grow from their strict intended purpose,
just like we grow as people.

so, bottom line is, there's no need to draw the line: it's all good :-)

but if you feel things are getting out of hand, the best way is to start new
on-topic discussion and see the community follow your lead!"

Now, I happen to know the perfect way to stop a dicussion dead in its tracks: don't reply to it. If that doesn't do it,
nothing will.

Thanks,

Philippe



----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 2:23 AM
Subject: FLUFF: science VS religion


> >Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
> are bible progams no FLUFF ?
>
> has this become a religious list or what ???
>
> >I go to a free church, not a 501C-3 nonprofit corporation.  It's
> >called the Church at Kaweah.  You can hear the sermons at
> >www.truthradio.com at 7 AM pacific time on Sat and Sun.  Note that
> >I do not endorse most of the poo poo broadcast on Truth Radio.
>
> and i do not endorse your poo poo broadcast on this list
>
> Nathalie
> btw. here is why:
>
> "Bon soir, Mlle Dr Nathalie.
>
>  I'm xxxxx xxxx, residing near xxxx, TX (the state capital) and working in
> the State Education Department in the area of research and program
> evaluation.
>  I'm a member of the local humanist society, I'm a fan of the Sagans, and
> have been non-theist as long as I can remember.
>  Thirty years ago I wanted to become a physician, but realized I did not
> have the dedication needed. So I completed a doctorate in research and
> statistics instead.
>  I do not speak my beliefs around the office (or even socially) because many
> persons with religious convictions are certain that a humanist cabal is in
> control of the education system in this country. While this is not true, I
> cannot remain effective if their paranoia is confirmed.
>  I applaud your ventures and vocalizations on the HPLX-L list and look
> forward to your every post. Thank you for making it interesting."
>  ----
>
> Are psudoscience and fear on the rise?  It seems to me the US of A won't be
> able to hold the distinction "country of the free and brave" any more.
>
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>

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:34:48 GMT
Reply-To:     stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch
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>are bible progams no FLUFF ?

Not if they run on the LX.
BTW: medical programs are not fluff too, if they have to run on the LX ;-)

>and i do not endorse your poo poo broadcast on this list

I don't too.

>btw. here is why:

So now I have to tell you what I learned when I spoke with a _lot_ of people
about their believes. Some of them were so-called christians, jews, muslims,
atheists. I live in a part of Switzerland, where a lot of people are from
turkey. So I decided to learn this crazy language. I can tell you, that I
met a lot of interesting people because of that. I spoke with islamic
fundamentalists, kurdish guerillas etc. I met a lot of very fanatic people
too.

BUT: The most fanatic people I met in this time and before, always had been
atheists. I investigated the thoughts of the atheists and evolutionists too.
And I came to the conclusion, that the evolution theory is one of the
biggest fundamentalist religions existing.

Regarding your subject line: IMO science is not against religion. Most
religions are against science, but not all. The problem is, that the most
shut their brain off. I think, that finding the truth is a science too.

Carl Sagan said "The evolution theory is a religion under a scientific
cover" (bad translation by me).

Stephan


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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:58:32 -0500
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              Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wireless Web
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
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Hello guys,

I've put together another cable that will now sync with my laptop, but
still no success with my StarTac.  I've even been able to dial and log into
my ISP using Datacomm, but can't seem to get it to work with WWW/LX.  When
I have the cable (and null modem + gender changer combination) plugged into
my 200LX and run the software, I get "Hanging up..." about ten seconds
after "Connecting (ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP)..."  If I don't have the
cable plugged in at all, I get three "Modem not ready" errors before it
says "Hanging up..."  Can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?

TIA


At 09:58 AM 10/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
>> I have recently purchased the Motorola StarTAC 7868 w/ the built-in web
>> browser and Data Connectivity cable, but have not been able to make it work
>> with my DS 200LX
>
>Since the phone works with your laptop, we know that your cable
>works, your phone works and you have web enabled.  So, it must
>be something on the palmtop/cable side.
>
>Are you using the HP cable with the DB9-DB9 adapter (which is a
>combination null modem and gender changer) to connect to the
>phone's cable? Have you tried to just use the Datacomm
>application to type a AT command to the phone and get the OK
>response back? Then try to dial the phone number with a ATDT
>command.  This all should work the same as a regular modem.
>
>There is no init string needed with WWW/LX.  I use the same
>settings I use with my desktop modem.  No init string, 19200
>bps, external modem (COM1).
>
>
>Stan
>
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>

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:19:05 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> > > I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop just fine

How did you install the zip drive on the 200lx?  I tried hooking up a zip
drive to a pentium 2 laptop and a pentium 2 desktop with no luck.

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:41:11 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> I'm almost 60 and I've had cataract surgery on both eyes in recent
> years so both lenses are new and especially good at transmitting
> light.  If you want to know how long it'll take for them to dim, I
> guess the answer is to be found in chemistry.

Your new lenses should last as long as you do.  You might get some =
clouding of
layer right behind your new lenses (called the posterior capsule).  That =
can be
fixed with a simple, in office, laser procedure.  So, as long as you =
don't
develope any new problems with your eyes, you are set for life.

> Of course there's the possibility that as I age I'll gradually lose
> my memory and begin to forget to wash my glasses.  That could bring
> the time of obsolesence closer.

Obsolesence for the palmtop or for you <eg>

Steve Carder MD (Family Practice)

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:22:31 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      200LX and StarTac questions

I've been thinking of getting a cell phone for some time now, and all
the reports from folks using their StarTac 7868 phones to go online with
the 200LX finally convinced me.  I got one of these phones last week.

I'm generally satisfied with it, but have been unable to get my 200LX
online with it.  It took awhile to get the account set up correctly, so
that I could get the minibrowser to work, but it seems to be working
okay now.

I have used the serial cables that come with the phone and the CPack,
along with the black 9 pin to 9 pin adapter.  I have not been able to
get an "OKAY" from the phone when I send "AT" from Data Comm, but with
one of my ISP's phone numbers in Data Comm I have gotten the ST to dial
and seemingly to connect.  I get the Tx and Rx indicator boxes on the
phone's display, with occasional activity in the boxes, but Data Comm
eventually times out without ever displaying a login prompt.

Should I be able to get a Unix login prompt with this setup?  I have
my settings in Data Comm as 19200, 8N1, Com1, and RTS-CTS.

I haven't been able to get LXTCP to dial the phone at all.  What do I
need in my pppd.cfg file to do this?  What sort of chat script should
I be using?

Finally, I'm not convinced my Verizon account (on myVZW) is set up
correctly.  It seems to work fine with the phone's mini-browser, though.

Thanks for any and all suggestions!

Ted

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:35:03 -0400
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: FW: Metricom Ricochet modem wireless Internet access
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Wow.  I am glad to hear this.  The service works great in Phila., where I
work much of the time but not in the surrounding areas where I also need
coverage. You've given me another reason to consider purchasing WWW/LX.

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sponsor@pop3.ftel.net İmailto:sponsor@pop3.ftel.net¨
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 6:09 PM
> To: jhenry@comcastbusiness.com; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: FW: Metricom Ricochet modem wireless Internet access
>
>
> Hi Henry: I am using Ricochet service at 19200-28,800. This
> is their trqaditional service. The 128KB is brand new, and
> not many areas are rigged for that (San Diego County is, Most
> of Manhattan is, some other areas...) Unfortunately, not
> where I am, yet, although they are in the middle of it right
> now. So i have not had a chance to try it.
>
> As I understood from the techies, if you have the fast modem,
> then it will adapt downward to provide whatever speed below
> 128kbps that your computer can handle. That means you can use
> the communications even now. We built support for Ricochet
> into WWW/LX, our product. You can find more details at
> http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/wwwfaq.htm#B8 for example...
>
> Avi Meshar İD&A Software¨
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: James Henry jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:06:40 -0400
> Subject: FW: Metricom Ricochet modem wireless Internet access
>
>
> Has anyone experimented with using the Metricom Ricochet
> wireless modem and
> the LX?  It's a 128kbps wireless internet service.  I just
> bought it for my
> laptop, but it comes with both a USB and a serial connector
> for it. The unit
> itself is no bigger than the LX and runs on AC or 6 hr
> battery life with
> built in rechargeable Lithium battery.  This will work out
> well for me if I
> can get it to work with my 200LX.
>
> Jim
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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:17:21 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard McEvoy" <remce@gofree.indigo.ie>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Another hairbrained idea!

That was expanded memory.  It was in a 64k window within the one meg
address space of the xt.  The card had it's own memory management
hardware that was able to alter what memory was seen within that 64k
window.

I also had an aboveboard 286 and I think it was capable either
expanded memory or extended memory or maybe even both.  But i think
I remember that was only for a 286 cpu.  Hence the name.

I'm really not too sure of this.  I did have above boards on xt's
too and I might have some of this mixed up.  It's been a lot of
years since I've had to deal with it.

Barry

> I haven't followed this discussion and I'm not sure I'm referring
to the
> same thing as you refer to above, Barry, but my old XT has an
Intel Above
> Board 286. After installation in1988, I printed out the test
result and
> stuck it in the manual. It reads:-
> "Testing page 96
> Conventional memory 640 Kbytes
> Expanded memory 1536 Kbytes
> EMM Length 9696 Kbytes
>
> EMM has been installed.
> PLUS Hardcard Device Driver  Version 1.06 ( I had a PLUS  40mb
internal
> hardcard drive)
> Copyright 1987 PLUS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
> Quikmem2 RAM Disk Version 1.1
> Copyright 1985 1987 Intel corporation
> The QuikMem2 RAM disk is now successfully installed as Drive F:"
>
> All of which made an appreciable difference to the performance of
Wordstar
> and Supercalc
>
> HTH
> Richard.
>
>

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:23:03 -0400
Reply-To:     Ron Stalma <rstalma@ztrain.com>
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Hi;
    First, I know, I know, everybody yells at me to quit being so cheep and
go out and buy Software Carousel! I still might, but I'm haven fun here!
    For those of you who have been following my thoughts on creating upper
memory blocks, or extending DOS memory on the 200LX, I have some news!
     I have successfully created 127k of USEABLE UMB memory on the 200lx at
memory loactions D001-EFFF by using two different drivers. First, I used the
EMM200 expanded memory program with the command line
"device=c:\emm200.exe -F8" .
Besides the 64k ems window at D001, the -F8 switch creates another 8 pages
of mapable ems which is tacked on to the initial 64k page frame. Then after
trying many different UMB drivers, I found one at the Channel 1 file library
called memkit2.zip that is designed to work with an XT. I used the included
driver "hramdev.sys /e /f ", which can turn the 127k expanded memory at
D001-EFFF into Upper Memory Blocks, and also handles calls to the UMB's. The
"/e switch tells it to convert ems to umb's, and the "/f" switch tells it to
include the page frame in the conversion, the only drawback is that the ems
is now only useable as UMB's. So far I have loaded numerous TSR's high, and
everthing seems to work great! Even MaxDos works loaded high!
     Now the down side, while all my programs seem to be happy, HDM works
fine, PE and PIM and others work great with the configuration, there is a
problem (sigh) with the built in system manager. The LX locks when the
system manager (200) is run. Evidently system manager must be messing around
and conflicting with the UMB's or the driver.
     Does anyone have an idea of what system manager might be fiddlin around
with? Maybe I can devise a work-around. Of course, with HDM, PE and PIM, and
a few other programs, who needs to use the built in apps in system manager?
Here is the command line in config.sys,

device=C:\emm20.exe -F8
DOS=UMB
Device=C:\hramdev.sys /e /f
Next load tsr's high with the devicehigh, or the loadhigh commands.

     With tsr's loaded high I have 617k mem available to use in DOS.

Ron

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Date:         Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:44:33 -0500
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Ron,

I hate to rain on your parade, but System Manager uses those memory location
that you are setting up as EMS/UMB's to eXecute In Place (XIP) the System
Manager software from the built in ROM's.  This is a fundamental difference
between an XT and a 200LX and it is also the reason you will never be able
to have more than 640k of usable DOS memory if you need to run System
Manager.

Programs that are located in upper memory blocks always expect the software
to be there when the appropriate interrupt or event occurs that cause their
execution. They are not guaranteed to be in that memory location with System
Manager running.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:10:10 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 has anyone worked out a internal backlighting hack for the DOS/LX
palmtops yet??

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:28:47 +0200
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hello,

my hotlist in HV does not work as expected.
I can add entries into the homepage, can choose them and the press
goto, but nothing happens, I always get a window "open error"
Could not access Homepage Von Werner Furlan. (which is actually my
homepage and not the chosen in F5 - Hotlist.

My WWW - HV version is 2.2

I can manually enter a adress, and it works with this entry, but not
from the hotlist.

Werner


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    Concerto (n): a fight between a piano and a pianist.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:47:06 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> I have an 8MB DS 200LX. it worked quite well, but recently
> started giving me false low battery warnings. Even when I have
> new alkaline batteries in, it will still say "Main batteries
> low, press esc" continually.

Are you using alkaline batteries and an older Flash card?  I had frequent =
low
battery warnings with that combination before.  Now I use NiMH rechageable=
s and
don't have the same problem.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:59:07 +0800
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Hi there!

Socket Communication has a PC Card and a CF card NE200 compatible
low power ethernet cards for Windows CE- they works fine in the 200LX.

Jorgen

> I was looking at a Xircom NE2000 comtabile ethernet card a whle ago. It =
is a
> PCMCIA adapter+CF combination and is made for windoes CE devices.  I =
have
> one in my office and will try it to see if the LX drivers can 'see' it.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
> >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM
> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Network adapters for Palmtop
> >
> >
> >Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
> >(NICS) in the palmtop.
> >
> >The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
> >of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
> >how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
> >PTP.
> >
> >Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
> >for about $69.
> >
> >- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
> >them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
> >they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
> >email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.
> >
> >- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
> >know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
> >interested in your own account if you actually used another
> >card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.
> >
> >Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!
> >
> >  Avi M. İD&A¨
> >  http://www.dasoft.com
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:06:15 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Jorgen,

excellent news. hich protocol is supported? IPX, NETBEUI, TCP/IP? What
are you using on your hp200lx?

Kind regards

Helmuth


> Socket Communication has a PC Card and a CF card NE200 compatible
> low power ethernet cards for Windows CE- they works fine in the 200LX.
>
> Jorgen
>
> > I was looking at a Xircom NE2000 comtabile ethernet card a whle ago. It is a
> > PCMCIA adapter+CF combination and is made for windoes CE devices.  I have
> > one in my office and will try it to see if the LX drivers can 'see' it.
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: A Meshar İmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨
> > >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM
> > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > >Subject: İHPLX-L¨ Network adapters for Palmtop
> > >
> > >
> > >Folks, I am looking for information about using Network cards
> > >(NICS) in the palmtop.
> > >
> > >The question is for a fellow palmtopper from NYC. We are aware
> > >of the Accton en2216-1 and the excellent article in PTP about
> > >how to make it all work, thank you author, David Sargeant, and
> > >PTP.
> > >
> > >Those cards are not easy to come by any more, found it at CDW
> > >for about $69.
> > >
> > >- Anyone knows of a source that actually is willing to sell
> > >them. Accton's US distributor, Lan Market in Irvine, CA _say_
> > >they sell them retail, but they have not answered phone or
> > >email for awhile, I am not even sure they are in business.
> > >
> > >- Are there other - known to work - cards for the purpose. I
> > >know there are hundreds of NICs out there but would be
> > >interested in your own account if you actually used another
> > >card successfully and satisfactorily in the palmtop.
> > >
> > >Appreciate any feedback. Than you in advance!
> > >
> > >  Avi M. İD&A¨
> > >  http://www.dasoft.com
> > >
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> >
>
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:52:35 -0600
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              "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
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I don't think the original question about the PC110 was answered in all of
the exchanges about what is obsolete.

The quick specs are
Size: 158x113x33mm Weight: 630g (incl. battery), 715g (incl. batt. & HD)
CPU: i486sx33 (SL Enhanced)

Being a 486, it can run Win95.

For more information and links to a FAQ, newsgroups, and mailing lists, go
to

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/pc110.html

Robert A. Feldman
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:16:35 -0400
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Lonac <lonac@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I just tried using the DataComm application and successfully dialed out
> using the cell phone.  I am actually using a cable that I made, so it's
> connected directly to the StarTac cable (no null modem).  But I'm still
> suspecting the cable because I when I connect it with a null modem, I =
can't
> make a connection to my laptop (LapLink or Transfile

Keep in mind that there are about 5 different ways to wire a
null modem adapter.  Perhaps your combination of null modem
wiring and homemade cable don't get along too well.


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Lonac <lonac@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I've put together another cable that will now sync with my laptop, but
> still no success with my StarTac.  I've even been able to dial and log =
into
> my ISP using Datacomm, but can't seem to get it to work with WWW/LX

If you can do a manual login with Datacomm, then I see no
reason why WWW/LX won't work.  Check you settings in WWW/LX and
make sure you don't have some init string being specified and
the baud rate is OK.  I use 19200 bps.  How is the phone number
specified in WWw/LX? With/without area code? Is it exactly the
same one you used manually with DataComm? I just use area code
and phone number just in case I am out of my area, I don't have
to remember to put it in.


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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:16:50 -0400
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Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> I have used the serial cables that come with the phone and the CPack,
> along with the black 9 pin to 9 pin adapter.  I have not been able to
> get an "OKAY" from the phone when I send "AT" from Data Comm, but with
> one of my ISP's phone numbers in Data Comm I have gotten the ST to dial
> and seemingly to connect.  I get the Tx and Rx indicator boxes on the
> phone's display, with occasional activity in the boxes, but Data Comm
> eventually times out without ever displaying a login prompt

Do, you can issue an ATDT1234567 and the phone will go into
data modem and dial, but you can't get an  OK  repsonse to an
AT command?  It sounds like result codes are turned off in the
modem.  Try an ATZ to reset it.

If your ISP uses CHAP login, then you may not see a login
prompt.

> Should I be able to get a Unix login prompt with this setup?  I have
> my settings in Data Comm as 19200, 8N1, Com1, and RTS-CTS

Those settings are what I use.  I can dial into my company
minicomputer (proprietary OS with simple serial dumb terminals
and plain text login) just fine with DataComm and the cel
phone.

> I haven't been able to get LXTCP to dial the phone at all.  What do I
> need in my pppd.cfg file to do this?  What sort of chat script should
> I be using?

I am not familiar with LXTCP, but there is no script for CHAP
because it does not need one.  That is why it is so universal.

> Finally, I'm not convinced my Verizon account (on myVZW) is set up
> correctly.  It seems to work fine with the phone's mini-browser, =
though.

I am sure that there are no settings or config at myVZN that
make any difference when trying to make data calls with your
phone.  I don't have any special features on my account except
for enabling the minibrowser and it all works perfectly for me.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:33:57 -0400
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>Ron,

>I hate to rain on your parade, but System Manager uses those memory
location
>that you are setting up as EMS/UMB's to eXecute In Place (XIP) the System
>Manager software from the built in ROM's.  This is a fundamental difference
>between an XT and a 200LX and it is also the reason you will never be able
>to have more than 640k of usable DOS memory if you need to run System
>Manager.

>Programs that are located in upper memory blocks always expect the software
>to be there when the appropriate interrupt or event occurs that cause their
>execution. They are not guaranteed to be in that memory location with
System
>Manager running.

>Cheers,
>Mack

Mack;
Ya but itsfun to push the limits! I wondered where in memory the XIP
software executed. BUT, the EMM200 ems driver normaly sets up EMS there
anyway, according to the Quardeck Manifest program (D001-EFFF) and works
fine normaly as EMS in conjunction with system manager, it's just the UMB
driver that is not happy with system manager. Since the EMM200 is designed
for the 200LX, and sets the EMS in D000-EFFF, acorrding to manifest, I
assume that emm200 is designed to work with system manager. I would love to
have a memory map of the LX, with detail of the LX's memory locations. As I
said earlier, I guess I'm going to have to get the System Developers Kit!

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:47:52 +0200
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anyone know what "error 242 at pgm-ctr: 78" is?
it won't solve with ctrl-alt-del, but needs a ctrl-shift-on

it happens when trying to run ddx13.exe, a program showing basic symptoms
and their related diseases; the program worked fine till a week ago

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Hi.   About a year ago someone posted a note to the effect that they =
modified the program MultiDOS, a free program (I believe), so that it =
can run on the hplx, and was willing to send it to anyone that wanted =
it.   At the time I lost the message, then could not find in it the =
archives.   Does anyone have it?  If you do, could you please send it to =
ddvteach@yahoo.com (I cannot take attachments at my gmx address).
For those who may want to know, this program allows task switching of =
two or more DOS program in conventional memory.  I thought it would be a =
great complement to the recent UMB's post, but the original program =
doesn't like DOS 5, hence this request.

TIA

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote on 10/8/00 5:24 am:

>>Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
>are bible progams no FLUFF ?

As Al Kind reminded us, if it runs on the hplx, it is definitely on =
topic.

>
>has this become a religious=20
>list or what ???

About as much as it has become a Wince list,  a Palm list, a Windows =
2000 list, a joke list, a modem list, a battery list, a cell phone list, =
a humanist list, etc, etc . . . . . . .

As Al mentioned, lighten up.

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Ron Stalma wrote on 10/8/00 11:34 pm:

>  I have successfully=20
>created 127k of USEABLE=20
>UMB memory on the 200lx=20
>at memory loactions=20
>D001-EFFF by using two=20
>different drivers.  Now the >down side, The LX=20
>locks when the system=20
>manager (200) is run.  >Maybe I can=20
>devise a work-around.=20

Can the drivers and the UMBs be unloaded without rebooting?  If so a =
batch file or two would be the way to go.

>Of course, with HDM, PE and=20
>PIM, and  few other=20
>programs, who needs to use=20
>the built in apps in system=20
>manager?=20

Personally, I would mainly miss the ability to run Sysmgr programs =
(exm).   Anyone knows how to run them from DOS alone?

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If any of the vendors who were providing cables for the LX may be
considering providing cables for other devices such as the Jornada, Palm
or other PDA's, I have some ideas and would be very interested in
collaborating on what I think would be an appealing design.

Thanks in Advance,
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Domingo Diaz-V wrote:

> Hi.  About a year ago someone posted a note to the effect that they
> modified the program MultiDOS, a free program (I believe), so that it
> can run on the hplx, and was willing to send it to anyone that wanted
> it.  At the time I lost the message, then could not find in it the
> archives.  Does anyone have it?  If you do, could you please send it
> to ddvteach@yahoo.com (I cannot take attachments at my gmx address).
> For those who may want to know, this program allows task switching of
> two or more DOS program in conventional memory.  I thought it would be
> a great complement to the recent UMB's post, but the original program
> doesn't like DOS 5, hence this request.

Do you mean the program Multiple Choice? It's a small program that will
split conventional memory in up to eight (I think) pieces. It was
originally hacked by someone (another Dane, as it were) to work on the
95LX and I then extended it a bit to work on the LX.

It's probably been a year since I mentioned it on the list.

The program is no more free than being Shareware, but I suspect the
original author does not sell the program any more, and hasn't for a
number of years :-)


Cheers,

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Hi.   A while ago there was a lively discussion on replacing the case in =
our palmtop.   At the time, a few knowledgeable people shared their =
insights into this issue, but there didn't seem to be much solid data =
available otherwise.   Now there is a little more.    A company is =
actually producing machined aluminum replacement shells for the Palm =
III, which comes with a plastic case.   The review below is interesting =
in the details of what it took to make it.  It just adds to the =
pipe-dream quality of the idea for the hplx.  :-)
The case cost about as much as the machine, and that in the market of =
the most popular palmtop at present:

http://www.gadgetmad.com/reviews/davecase.shtml

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote on 10/9/00 2:15 pm:

>Do you mean the program=20
>Multiple Choice? It's a small=20
>program that will split=20
>conventional memory in up=20
>to eight (I think) pieces. It=20
>was originally hacked by=20
>someone (another Dane, as=20
>it were) to work on the
>95LX and I then extended it=20
>a bit to work on the LX.

It sounds like it, though I am not sure about the name.  But since no =
one else answered when I posted this a few months ago, it's good enough =
for me.  :-)
Do you still have it?  If so, would you mind forwarding it to me at the =
address below?=20

TIA

ddvteach@yahoo.com

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On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:23:49 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> are bible progams no FLUFF ?

Nope, HisWord is a program designed specifically on the LX.

> has this become a religious list or what ???

Not that I have seen other than Nathalie almost openly worshipping computers
and chastising Christians.

> and i do not endorse your poo poo broadcast on this list

Nor do many of us endorse yours.

> Are psudoscience and fear on the rise?  It seems to me the US of A won't be
> able to hold the distinction "country of the free and brave" any more.

Wanna bet? I don't think we have to worry about the French attacking the
USA.....

Is it time for my patriotic speech once again, as I march into war with my
rifle in one hand and my LX, loaded with HisWord in the other?

Jeff

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Hi fellows,

I=B4m interested too in having this pogram. Wold U mind sending it.

Thanks

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De:   Domingo Diaz-V İSMTP:dvm123@GMX.CO.UK¨
> Enviado el:   Lunes 9 de Octubre de 2000 3:43 PM
> Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Asunto:       Re: MultiDOS
>=20
> Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote on 10/9/00 2:15 pm:
>=20
> >Do you mean the program=20
> >Multiple Choice? It's a small=20
> >program that will split=20
> >conventional memory in up=20
> >to eight (I think) pieces. It=20
> >was originally hacked by=20
> >someone (another Dane, as=20
> >it were) to work on the
> >95LX and I then extended it=20
> >a bit to work on the LX.
>=20
> It sounds like it, though I am not sure about the name.  But since no =
one else answered when I posted this a few months ago, it's good enough =
for
> me.  :-)
> Do you still have it?  If so, would you mind forwarding it to me at =
the address below?=20
>=20
> TIA
>=20
> ddvteach@yahoo.com
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Do, you can issue an ATDT1234567 and the phone will go into
> data modem and dial, but you can't get an  OK  repsonse to an
> AT command?  It sounds like result codes are turned off in the
> modem.  Try an ATZ to reset it.

Yes the phone dials, but Data Comm never shows any response
from the phone on the display.  Neither AT nor ATZ get any response.
As I type, the characters accumulate on one line--when I hit an
enter, the cursor returns to the start of the same line.  I have
local echo set on in Data Comm (otherwise I see nothing at all).

I have noticed that in turning the Com1 power on and off the Data Comm
app gets very sluggish.  When disconnecting the serial cable I get
junk characters on the screen.  Once I saw an OK from the phone, but
I've been unable to reproduce it.

Any other serial communication users have any ideas?

Ted

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I registered my verison of SHASS earlier this year. There were two email
addresses:

  siroos@acm.org

and

  safshar@monmouth.com

The mailing address was the same:

     Ramsheen Research
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Pick.exe produces a file c:\file.lst, which contains the

   volume:\path\name.ext

of the selected file.

Using standard DOS, I would like to extract

   volume:
   \path\
   name
   ext

into separate parameters, which I could make available in DOS variables.

I appreciate any idea!

Kind regards

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A quick one for you guys:

How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?

Thanks!

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On 7 Oct 2000, at 18:50, Steve Carder wrote:

> Are the pyramids of Giza obsolete? They were built to be tombs that would last
> for eternity.  They are truly "old technology".  But, will anything we have
> built in this "high tech" century last as long?  We probably _could_ build
> something as long-lasting, but until we actually do I don't feel they are
> obsolete.
>
> Steve Carder

One flaw in that reasoning. A stone building is not obsolete as we still use stone in construction and the pyramids are just
stone buildings. An xt class computer is obsolete since you cannot even get the components to make one anymore, as
they are no longer made. That goes along way to proving obsolesence to me.

The big thing people keep missing is that just because the general public might consider something obsolete doesn't make
it useless. It always seems like the members of this list have to defend to the last that the hp200lx is not really obsolete,
even in the face of it no longer being built. I guess you all should get along great with the amiga zealots.

Pete


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hello all,

has anybody already seen the HP Deskjet 990CXI and knows if
its infrared port is compatible with the HP/LX? The HP
photoprinter (I forgot the name) was not...
Any comments are very welcome.

Werner



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> What can anyone tell me about a IBM PC110?

Well, I just pulled mine out of it hiding place while I hiked and camped
in Utah.  It was at 48% charge after being fully powered off for 13
days.

It is a neat little machine altho, its wispy fonts got harder and harder
to read under Win95.  I used accis and Post/lx on it under Win95 for a
number of trips out of town.  Its single full size pcmcia slot was
limiting when holding its harddisk if you wanted to use a pcmcia modem.
I got a slot doubler and that made it possible but awkward with the
"heavy" harddisk dangling upsidedown from the flexible doubler's circuit
board.  Its "compact" flash slot is an older standard and does not
support the newer standards (modems, etc) or sizes.  Its internal
"flashcard" is unfortunately a bunch of chips and now a card that could
be replaced with something larger.

Its battery life is somewhat limited.  Its speed is, similarly, limited.

It cannot easily be viewed in outdoor lighting.

The docking station overcomes some of the modem/port problems but adds
substantially to its bulk (I wanted a way to tap into the port connector
to get a serial line for modem use but that was supposedly not possible)

Support for it gets more limited but there is a great website:

http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm

More?

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As we are flooded with ill conceived wireless solutions, occasionally
something interesting pops up.  The Blackberry 957 appears at first blush
to be a pager on steroids but it does have a 386 processor.  Perhaps the
manufacturer would consider giving it compact Flash capacity and DOS?  This
would give us a wireless internet connection, DOS programme capability, and
a relatively reasonable size.  While I prefer the 200LX clamshell design, a
keyboard, wireless email and internet access, and full DOS capability would
be very tempting.

Perhaps some of the less technically challenged members of the group could
comment upon this wee beastie and indicate whether or not this is just
another fleeting dream or an alternative to pursue.  The web site is at
http://www.blackberry.net/home/main.shtml.  The Blackberry 957 is the model
with the larger screen and a primitive PIM application.

Thanks guys!

Larry Fast

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:43:08 -0400
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Stan -

This is in part in response to your discussion with Theodore Heise. I
am going to keep working on this while composing, but:

1. I found part of the problem: I have always used PCMCIA modems, so
I have had the COM 1 turned OFF in LXPRO....

>Do, you can issue an ATDT1234567 and the phone will go into data
>modem and dial, but you can't get an  OK  repsonse to an AT command?
>It sounds like result codes are turned off in the modem.  Try an ATZ
>to reset it.

2. OK. Now I can start up DATACOMM, get a response from AT, get an
appropriate answer from ATI3 ("Motorola CDMA Phone"), and even
successfully dial the phone.
And I have, in fact, been able to connect and get mail from my ISP in
DATACOMM, however.

But with the same settings (COM 1, ATZ, ATDT, 19200 bps) I get
nowhere in acCIS or in WWW/LX. ("Busy or No Answer, Hanging Up")

>If you can do a manual login with Datacomm, then I see no reason why
>WWW/LX won't work.

I agree that that sounds like it ought to work.

>Check your settings in WWW/LX and make sure you don't have some init
>string being specified and the baud rate is OK. I use 19200 bps. How
>is the phone number specified in WWw/LX? With/without area code? Is
>it exactly the same one you used manually with DataComm?

"External", "Modem" checked, 19200, PPP, ATZ, ATDTxxx-yyy-zzzz

AHA!

I removed the dashes from the phone number in acCIS, and it worked flawlessly!!

Of course, it's 19200, not 33600, but it is from nearly anywhere, and
I only have to keep track of my "home" CIS number, since I have
SingleRate USA....

So I took the dashes out of the phone number in WWW, and re-dialed. I
was reminded by seeing the dashes still THERE when dialing that I
would need to quit and re-start WWW. And after that WWW connected to
my ISP. Now I just have to resolve IP address problems ("Aborting! We
don't have a valid IP address.")

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:00:12 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Fryday wrote:
> How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?

Use a period ".".

A period means the current directory and 2 periods means the parent of
the current directory.

 copy  .  ..

This will copy all the files in the current directory up 1 level to the
parent of the current directory.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:00:15 +0000
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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
>    volume:\path\name.ext
>
> Using standard DOS, I would like to extract
>
>    volume:
>    \path\
>    name
>    ext
>
> into separate parameters, which I could make available in DOS variables.

This may seem like putting the cart before the horse but I sometimes use
Rexx as a BAT file utility.  It would only be a couple of lines of Rexx to
do this but the disadvantage is Personal Rexx is 130+k and the delay to
load it and run the small program is noticable in a 1X speed LX.

If you want to persue this solution let me know and I'll post a sample
Rexx solution and also show you where you can download the demo version
of Personal Rexx to run it.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:04:20 -0400
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Hi;
      There have been a number of messages lately as how to extract the path
and file name from the file generated by PICK.EXE, FILE.LST. Most of the
ideas I saw here were on the right track, with one flaw. When using the "<"
& ">" characters in a batch file to redirect, it will not grab all the
charcters needed. So here is a trick that I use using FIND.EXE and the DATE
command to temporaly hold the complete path and file location from FILE.LST,
then redirect it to a varable. You also need FIND.EXE for MSDOS 5.0 for this
to work. I will email it to anyone who requests it, as it is not included
with the 5.0 dos in the LX.
     In this bat file example, I use PICK to choose a file, then EDIT.COM to
open the file. You could substitute any program for EDIT.COM, like your
spell checker to pass the variable to;

@ECHO OFF
PICK.EXE
ECHO. >> C:\FILE.LST
DATE < C:\FILE.LST | FIND "):" > FILELST.BAT
ECHO SET RESULT=%%4> ENTER.BAT
FOR %%C IN (CALL DEL) DO %%C FILELST.BAT
DEL ENTER.BAT
EDIT.COM %RESULT%

Ron Stalma
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:42:00 -0400
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Upgrade Offer Ending
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Avi -

>The upgrade offer on WWW/LX Version 3 is about to end at midnight
>October 20, 2000. If you have a license for WWW/LX Version 2, can
>upgrade it to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00. This offer ends October
>20.

I want to upgrade my 2 to 3, but I haven't been using WWW/LX in
recent months, and now when I try to get my mail, it fails.

But to register, I have to get the registration E-mail *using* WWW/LX
(correct?)

I have been uniformly getting my E-mail in recent months on my
laptop, and expect to continue to do so most of the time, and
certainly until I can get WWW/LX up and running.

Can I fax my upgrade order form with credit card number now, and
request the registration E-mail at a later date when I've got WWW
working again?

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:32:27 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Domingo Diaz-V" <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Subject: Old discussion: aluminum case for the hplx

Is an aluminum case a good idea? Many aluminum items have been stolen in
recent years for the salvage value.  The 200lx is already attractive to
theives...won't an aluminum case make it more so?

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:29:26 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Actually, I need to complete path name.

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: DOS: Current directory in a batch file


> Fryday wrote:
> > How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?
>
> Use a period ".".
>
> A period means the current directory and 2 periods means the parent of
> the current directory.
>
>  copy  .  ..
>
> This will copy all the files in the current directory up 1 level to the
> parent of the current directory.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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>

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:07:15 -0500
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              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Does anyone know if this version works with an Ethernet connection as well
as a modem?

Scott

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:24:17 -0700
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              Tim Shephard <timshephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Can someone tell me a compelling reason to upgrade.  I have 2.0 now and
don't really use it that much execpt when traveling.

What are the differencies in the two products?

-Tim
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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:30:03 +1300
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              Anthony G Hutchins <AGHutchins@CS.COM>
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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:22:33 +1300 (NZST)

05h39m55s ago ...
On Mon,  9 Oct 2000 21:42:38 +0200,
Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

GH> Pick.exe produces a file c:\file.lst, which contains the
GH>
GH>    volume:\path\name.ext
GH>
GH> of the selected file.
GH>
GH> Using standard DOS, I would like to extract
GH>
GH>    volume:
GH>    \path\
GH>    name
GH>    ext
GH>
GH> into separate parameters, which I could make available in DOS variable=
s.

Helmuth,

If you run SPLIT4.BAT below pick lets you choose a file and then the 4
environment variables are set.

PICK.EXE and ROBOT.EXE just need to be in your path. ROBOT.EXE should be
the latest version available from www.dasoft.com

I called the environment variables VOL4,PATH4,NAME4 and EXT4.

This is SPLIT4.BAT:

@echo off
pick
robot.exe -q -n -w "split4"
echo setting the 4 environment variables..
temp4.bat

and, here is SPLIT4.SCR:

file r C:\\FILE.LST
get
=3D a1 $it
file c
t truncate :
=3D vol $it:
=3D it $a1
t ending .
=3D ext $it
=3D it $a1
t ending \\
=3D rest $it
=3D path \\
:loop
if (!found \\) endpath
t truncate \\
=3D path #path$it\\
=3D it #rest
t ending \\
=3D rest $it
j loop
:endpath
t truncate .
=3D name $it
echo \n
echo $a1 split into:\n
echo  VOL4 #vol\n
echo PATH4 #path\n
echo NAME4 #name\n
echo  EXT4 #ext\n
echo writing temp4.bat file...\n
file w temp4.bat
put @echo off\n
put SET VOL4=3D#vol\n
put SET PATH4=3D#path\n
put SET NAME4=3D#name\n
put SET EXT4=3D#ext\n
file c
echo split4.scr is finished.\n\r

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:40:40 -0700
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              john kavanagh <johnkavanagh@YAHOO.COM>
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Where do you find PC Study Bible for Dos? The
manufacturer says they no longer carry the Dos
version.

John


--- Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM> wrote:
> >200LX is to run the PC Study
> >Bible suite.
>
> Maybe this has been asked before, but how does that
> program compare to the
> Online Bible, which has similar features, but it's
> free?
>
> I don't know about the Online Bible.  PC Study Bible
> is a powerful suite
> that comes with a Strong's Concordance, Treasury of
> Scripture Knowledge,
> Vine's Expository Dictionary, Nave's Topical Bible
> and Nelson's Bible
> Dictionary.  All are books are linked.  You can get
> the KJV, ASV, NASV, NRSV
> and NIV in the DOS package.  The suite as I use it,
> with only the KJV takes
> about 22 megs.  It's a bit slow on a standard
> machine but it rocks if you
> run it on a Times2 LX.
>
>
> Just curious, would you happen to be a member of the
> Worldwide Church of God
> (of the late Amstrong)?
>
> Nope.  I go to a free church, not a 501C-3 nonprofit
> corporation.  It's
> called the Church at Kaweah.  You can hear the
> sermons at www.truthradio.com
> at 7 AM pacific time on Sat and Sun.  Note that I do
> not endorse most of the
> poo poo broadcast on Truth Radio.
>
> Colin
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:52:16 EST
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A CD command (all by itself) in DOS will respond to the default output
device with the current path.  I use this in a batch file/QB program that
returns to the current directory when it completes it's function.

Mine's not very sophisticated though.  It redirects the output to a file and
just before the QBasic program returns control to DOS, it reads that file
and does a "CHDIR".

Eric

>From: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              Fryday
><fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: DOS: Current directory in a batch file
>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:46:46 -0700
>
>A quick one for you guys:
>
>How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Philippe
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:19:09 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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Maybe you could ask them to release it as copyrighted freeware, either on
their site, or authorize one of us to put it up for free on the net.   I for
one would be interested to check it out.

Domingo

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From: "john kavanagh" <johnkavanagh@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> Where do you find PC Study Bible for Dos? The
> manufacturer says they no longer carry the Dos
> version.
>
> John
>

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:35:38 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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I already tried.

Colin

-----Original Message-----
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Domingo Diaz-V
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:19 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Bible programs


Maybe you could ask them to release it as copyrighted freeware, either on
their site, or authorize one of us to put it up for free on the net.   I for
one would be interested to check it out.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "john kavanagh" <johnkavanagh@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:40 PM
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> Where do you find PC Study Bible for Dos? The
> manufacturer says they no longer carry the Dos
> version.
>
> John
>

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:36:03 -0700
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I already tried.  The reason why BibleSoft won't do the copyrighted freeware
is they have to pay a royalty to the copyright holders for all of the books
except for the KJV.

Colin

-----Original Message-----
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Domingo Diaz-V
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:19 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Bible programs


Maybe you could ask them to release it as copyrighted freeware, either on
their site, or authorize one of us to put it up for free on the net.   I for
one would be interested to check it out.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "john kavanagh" <johnkavanagh@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> Where do you find PC Study Bible for Dos? The
> manufacturer says they no longer carry the Dos
> version.
>
> John
>

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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:48:39 -0400
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Subject:      One Nation On Line

Hi All,

Today, I again checked on One Nation On Line's website (www.1nol.com) and
continue to get the same surprise. (I believe that it was the last
nationwide free ISP left that didn't force the users to view a floating
banner ad or require the user to fill out surveys.)

I keep getting an error message that the site is too busy, but when that
message is displayed, the address in my browser changes to:

http://mmproxy.myway.com/http://freeatlast.myway.com/features/home/default.asp

Has anyone heard anything about "One Nation On Line" being sucked into
another ISP called "Free At Last"?  That makes me think that there is now
a strong connections between the two.

If that is indeed what is happening, then it appears that the "no strings
attached", free ISP days are over. :-(

I hope that someone here can cast a more positive light on this.

Cheers,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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If the 200LX is obsolete then so is my appendix, but I am
in no hurry to dispose of either one.

> Obsolete:
> ...
> 3.Biology. Vestigial or imperfectly developed, especially in
> comparison with  other individuals or related species; not
> clearly marked or seen; indistinct. Used of an organ or other
> part of an animal or a  plant.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:56:00 +0200
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Hi Lonca,

On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:58:32 -0500, Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I've put together another cable that will now sync with my laptop, but
> still no success with my StarTac.  I've even been able to dial and log into
> my ISP using Datacomm, but can't seem to get it to work with WWW/LX.  When
> I have the cable (and null modem + gender changer combination) plugged into
> my 200LX and run the software, I get "Hanging up..." about ten seconds
> after "Connecting (ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP)..."  If I don't have the
> cable plugged in at all, I get three "Modem not ready" errors before it
> says "Hanging up..."  Can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?

Sorry - I missed your first posting about your problem. But if you
haven't done it already, please post the relevant lines of your WWW.CFG
to the list! Maybe the problem is one of these settings.

GTX
daniel

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I think it's my cable, but maybe you're right - maybe it is my settings.
Here is the only section that's been modified after I downloaded the
evaluation version of WWW/LX:

İISP_PPP¨
Port=1
Baud=19200
Modem=1
PPP=1
Login=ELN/lonac
Password=*****
ModemInit=
Dial=ATDT8430480
DNS_IP=207.217.77.82
DNS2_IP=207.217.120.83
Script=CHAP_Script
OmniGo=0
My_IP=0.0.0.0

To recap, the problem I'm facing now is that the StarTAC won't dial at all
from WWW/LX, but I've been able to dial and login using the built-in
DataComm.  I've used several custom cables in a variety of configurations -
all with the same result: works with DataComm, but not with WWW/LX.  I know
my cross-over cable is good, since I use it to synch my LX with my laptop
using LapLink & Transfile.  (I'd use a null modem adapter & gender changer
to connect to the cell phone)  And the other straight through cables are
also good, since I can synch with those when I use the null modem adapter &
gender changer with my laptop.  Any ideas?

TIA!
Lonac

At 06:56 AM 10/10/00 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Lonca,
>
>On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:58:32 -0500, Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
>> I've put together another cable that will now sync with my laptop, but
>> still no success with my StarTac.  I've even been able to dial and log into
>> my ISP using Datacomm, but can't seem to get it to work with WWW/LX.  When
>> I have the cable (and null modem + gender changer combination) plugged into
>> my 200LX and run the software, I get "Hanging up..." about ten seconds
>> after "Connecting (ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP)..."  If I don't have the
>> cable plugged in at all, I get three "Modem not ready" errors before it
>> says "Hanging up..."  Can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?
>
>Sorry - I missed your first posting about your problem. But if you
>haven't done it already, please post the relevant lines of your WWW.CFG
>to the list! Maybe the problem is one of these settings.
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
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Date:         Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:04:04 -0700
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A couple changes on http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

When requesting a map by address, the Latitude and Longitude of the
address is also displayed.

I've also added a new page to just do the conversion from address to
Lat/Lon, without retrieving a map. This could be useful for calibrating
maps for LXGPS.

A quick howto:

Retrieve a map of the area you are interested in.
Next, find an intersection near the upper left corner.
Enter the intersection on the conversion page, e.g.
  "Broadway and Main" and submit the form.
Record the coordinates.
Repeat for an intersection in the lower right corner.

Use these coordinates to calibrate the map for LXGPS. You will need to
convert to the format used by LXGPS.

Disclaimer: MapBlast (Vicinity Corporation) doesn't warranty the accuracy
of their information, and neither do I.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:09:36 -0700
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I mean, I need the complete path name.

Basically, I want to put the current directory name in an environment variable.

In UNIX, I'd write something like "export CURDIR=`pwd`" and get it over with in 2 seconds...

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fryday" <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: DOS: Current directory in a batch file


> Actually, I need to complete path name.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: DOS: Current directory in a batch file
>
>
> > Fryday wrote:
> > > How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?
> >
> > Use a period ".".
> >
> > A period means the current directory and 2 periods means the parent of
> > the current directory.
> >
> >  copy  .  ..
> >
> > This will copy all the files in the current directory up 1 level to the
> > parent of the current directory.
> >
> > Cheers... Russ
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hi,

when I was trying my internet connection on the LX, I found out that
when I have the HP200 connected to the external power supply,
(regulated 12V switching PS)  I had connection difficulties with my
internet provider.
The connection did not work at all or it stopped during the
authentication process. Without the power supply connected it worked.
I remember not having had this problem earlier, maybe something happend
to my LX in the meantime. Has anybody else ever had this behaviour?
I suspect distortions on the phone line due to a swinging voltage
control circuit in the HP200.

regards,
Werner





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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:06:47 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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even easier would be to use a nokia 9000 series communicator it has
386/486 with geos installed and can be worked around to run some dos appz

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:19:26 +1300
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              Anthony G Hutchins <AGHutchins@CS.COM>
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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:07:47 +1300 (NZST)

58m11s ago ...
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:09:36 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

Fr> I mean, I need the complete path name.
Fr>
Fr> Basically, I want to put the current directory name in an environment =
variable.
Fr>
Fr> In UNIX, I'd write something like "export CURDIR=3D`pwd`" and get it =
over with in 2 seconds...

The following 2 files should do the trick:

İSETCD.BAT¨
copy setcd.bot tempcd.bat
cd >> tempcd.bat
tempcd.bat

İSETCD.BOT¨
set CURDIR=3D

(NB no carriage return after the set CURDIR=3D)

Running SETCD.BAT should set CUDIR=3Dcurrent directory

or robot.exe setcd.scr where:

İSETCD.SCR¨
!CD > cd.tmp
file r cd.tmp
get
!set CURDIR=3D$it
x

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:45:51 +0200
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Ron,

a far as I could see, the %result% is the content of c:\file.lst.

I was asking for the next step to separate the string which was
produced by pick.exe into 4 variables

   <Volume> <Path> <Filename> <Fileextension>

Any idea?

Kind regards

Helmuth



>       There have been a number of messages lately as how to extract the path
> and file name from the file generated by PICK.EXE, FILE.LST. Most of the
> ideas I saw here were on the right track, with one flaw. When using the "<"
> & ">" characters in a batch file to redirect, it will not grab all the
> charcters needed. So here is a trick that I use using FIND.EXE and the DATE
> command to temporaly hold the complete path and file location from FILE.LST,
> then redirect it to a varable. You also need FIND.EXE for MSDOS 5.0 for this
> to work. I will email it to anyone who requests it, as it is not included
> with the 5.0 dos in the LX.
>      In this bat file example, I use PICK to choose a file, then EDIT.COM to
> open the file. You could substitute any program for EDIT.COM, like your
> spell checker to pass the variable to;
>
> @ECHO OFF
> PICK.EXE
> ECHO. >> C:\FILE.LST
> DATE < C:\FILE.LST | FIND "):" > FILELST.BAT
> ECHO SET RESULT=%%4> ENTER.BAT
> FOR %%C IN (CALL DEL) DO %%C FILELST.BAT
> DEL ENTER.BAT
> EDIT.COM %RESULT%
>
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> Does anyone know if this version works with an Ethernet connection as well
> as a modem?

It does here very well.

Kind regards

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:46:00 +0200
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Tony,

thank you very much. It is amazing what you can do with robot/lx.

This allows me now to read and update archived post/lx folders on
demand or keypress.

Great job! Thank you again.

However I am stiil curious, if that would be any possible using only
MSDOS 5.0 commands?

Kind regards

Helmuth


> If you run SPLIT4.BAT below pick lets you choose a file and then the 4
> environment variables are set.
>
> PICK.EXE and ROBOT.EXE just need to be in your path. ROBOT.EXE should be
> the latest version available from www.dasoft.com
>
> I called the environment variables VOL4,PATH4,NAME4 and EXT4.
>
> This is SPLIT4.BAT:
>
> @echo off
> pick
> robot.exe -q -n -w "split4"
> echo setting the 4 environment variables..
> temp4.bat
>
> and, here is SPLIT4.SCR:
>
> file r C:\\FILE.LST
> get
> = a1 $it
> file c
> t truncate :
> = vol $it:
> = it $a1
> t ending .
> = ext $it
> = it $a1
> t ending \\
> = rest $it
> = path \\
> :loop
> if (!found \\) endpath
> t truncate \\
> = path #path$it\\
> = it #rest
> t ending \\
> = rest $it
> j loop
> :endpath
> t truncate .
> = name $it
> echo \n
> echo $a1 split into:\n
> echo  VOL4 #vol\n
> echo PATH4 #path\n
> echo NAME4 #name\n
> echo  EXT4 #ext\n
> echo writing temp4.bat file...\n
> file w temp4.bat
> put @echo off\n
> put SET VOL4=#vol\n
> put SET PATH4=#path\n
> put SET NAME4=#name\n
> put SET EXT4=#ext\n
> file c
> echo split4.scr is finished.\n\r
>
> Regards, Tony
>

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:10:06 +1300
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Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:04:22 +1300 (NZST)

02h18m22s ago ...
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:46:00 +0200,
Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

GH> However I am stiil curious, if that would be any possible using only
GH> MSDOS 5.0 commands?

Helmuth, I am sure it would be possible. Getting the path is the tricky
part as it could have any number of component directories. That MSDOS
batch file published here once that did great date-related things
probably holds the key - but I think I understood that one only for a =
brief
moment :(

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:35:54 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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What royalties?   Except for the modern versions, the Online Bible provides
many of the same tools free, which suggests they pay no royalties.   This
includes the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, the Naves, and the Greek and
Hebrew tools.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Thompson" <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> I already tried.  The reason why BibleSoft won't do the copyrighted
freeware
> is they have to pay a royalty to the copyright holders for all of the
books
> except for the KJV.
>
> Colin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Domingo Diaz-V
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:19 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
>
> Maybe you could ask them to release it as copyrighted freeware, either on
> their site, or authorize one of us to put it up for free on the net.   I
for
> one would be interested to check it out.
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john kavanagh" <johnkavanagh@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
>
> > Where do you find PC Study Bible for Dos? The
> > manufacturer says they no longer carry the Dos
> > version.
> >
> > John
> >
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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:15:34 -0400
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Fryday wrote:

> A quick one for you guys:

> How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?

> Thanks!

Philippe,

The undocumented "TRUENAME" command can be used for that.

"TRUENAME ." will return the current directory, and it can
be echoed to a file.  It can then be used as described in
the PICK.EXE discussions.

As Russel Brooks wrote, the period refers to the current
directory.  As Eric wrote "CD" does something similar.
Try TRUENAME and CD on SUBSTed and ASSIGNed drives to see
the differences.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:29:18 +0200
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Hi,

I have been using JAM for years to compress my flash card and my 5MB C:
drive. For some reason I am not able to mount a JAM drive installed of =
the
new 32MB internal memory extension provided by Times2 Tech.  I get the
following message :

        Invalid disk change reading drive G:
        Please insert volume IBMC

The JAM volume on my flash card works perfectly. The 32MB T2T memory has =
not
been swaped with the smaller C drive.

Can Mack or other comment on the possibility to mount a JAM volume on the
32MB memory extension ?

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:39:15 +0800
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Hi,

Yes, WWW/LX works great with an ethernet connection (Accton or Socket
Communication Low Power Win CE card).

Jorgen

> Does anyone know if this version works with an Ethernet connection as =
well
> as a modem?
>
> Scott
>

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:39:12 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Network adapters for Palmtop
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Hi,

So far I have tried NETBEUI and TCP/IP stuff and so far so good.
WWW/LX, POST/LX & HV works, but also all the LXTCP tools.

Jorgen


> Jorgen,
>
> excellent news. hich protocol is supported? IPX, NETBEUI, TCP/IP? What
> are you using on your hp200lx?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
>
> > Socket Communication has a PC Card and a CF card NE200 compatible
> > low power ethernet cards for Windows CE- they works fine in the =
200LX.
> >
> > Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:46:03 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Barry wrote:

> I'm a retired programmer.  I still play around with programming.
> Not anything serious.  I just do little stuff to entertain myself.

Barry,

Excellent.  I like to solve (figure out) things by
programming.  To figure out the Heapsort algorithim, I
wrote a 'find file duplicates' program.  To "understand"
the LZW compression scheme, I wrote a program to decode
GIF files.  During the recent LXMapBlast discussions,
the interlaced GIF was brought up as a topic, so I got
out my GIF decoder shell and started to update it to do
more than output error messages.  Now I can display an
interlaced GIF on the 200LX.  For whatever reason, it's
more fun to get a program up and running on the 200LX
then to do it for the desktop.  Now the only problem is
LXPIC.  I realize that LXPIC is smaller (how he do that?).
But it's also significantly faster as well.  Now I "need"
to check my code for obvious slow downs.

Stefan Peichel wrote that the interlaced GIF format was
"terrible".  It certainly makes you wonder what people
were thinking when thay defined it.  It provides some
entertainment on the 200LX to watch the screen being
refreshed in such an odd manner.  Since it takes at least
the same amount of time to generate an image, and recog-
nizing the image is problematic until it's finished,
there really isn't much use in it.

> But I don't want to sit at the desk and do it.  I do it on my front
> porch or sitting in the park or while waiting for my meal to be
> served in a restaurant or at a coffee shop or just whenever I get an
> urge.

Well, good for you.  I may try doing the programming on
the 200LX sometime.  But things assemble so much faster
on a Pentium, that's where I'll do most of my programming
for now.  Hmm, restraurants..., doctor's offices?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:48:00 -0700
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              Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE>
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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hallo!

I have dos 5.0 (and win 3.1) on  pcmcia installed; the boot-
pcmcia is easy to defrag with 'diskopt'. But the with drivers
installed  2. pcmcia is not recognized. Only my very old ergo
(from 1989) is usable, but needs a lot of more time.
On the lx200 I can run diskopt, but it's slowly, too.

Who can give me a hint?

                Klaus.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:00:40 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> A quick one for you guys:
>
> How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe

Use what.exe.

Barry

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> An xt class computer is obsolete since you cannot
> even get the components to make one anymore,
> as they are no longer made.

They are available.  About 2 years ago I was able to find an 8088
and an 8087 without any difficulty.  I found them in a used
electronics store in Houston.  Both were used.  It was the first
place I looked and they had a bin of each.  The bin was marked $10
but he wouldn't take any money for them.

Actually the only thing difficult about this was convincing someone
that there really was such a thing as an 8087.  The woman that
waited on me had to ask about 5 people before she found someone who
had even heard of one before.  I don't think she really believed me
until then.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:31:03 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Jorgen,

that sounds interesting, I never got NETBEUI to work.

Maybe I was doing something wrong.

Kind regards

Helmuth

jorgen@palmtop.net,
> Hi,
>
> So far I have tried NETBEUI and TCP/IP stuff and so far so good.
> WWW/LX, POST/LX & HV works, but also all the LXTCP tools.
>
> Jorgen
>
> > Jorgen,
> >
> > excellent news. hich protocol is supported? IPX, NETBEUI, TCP/IP? What
> > are you using on your hp200lx?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Helmuth
> >
> > > Socket Communication has a PC Card and a CF card NE200 compatible
> > > low power ethernet cards for Windows CE- they works fine in the 200LX.
> > >
> > > Jorgen
>

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:42:51 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kopplin" <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
> A couple changes on http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

Checked out my address on the above site to see if I wanted to try
LX-Mapblast....and noticed that the map produced was very inaccurate.  There
were things on the map that are up to a half mile off.

Do yourself a favor...if you thinking of getting this program, don't bother.
Having an inaccurate map is probably worse than having no map.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:55:03 -0700
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from Sputnik:

>even easier would be to use a nokia 9000 series communicator
>it has 386/486 with geos installed and can be worked around
>to run some dos appz

Have always been fascinated by the series 9000 - if it worked for the
Saint, it should easily handle my much diminished requirements.  However in
my area of the world GSM networks are either too limited or non-existant.
A dual or triple mode 9000 series which accepted Compact Flash cards and
ran DOS would be a most welcome tool (toy?).

In North America, the Blackberry appears to cover a fairly wide area and is
widely available.  Can it be modified or can the manufacturer (RIM) be
convinced to give it DOS and Compact Flash capability?  If so, it would be
a very desirable alternative to the wave of Palm gadgets for the unwary.

Larry Fast

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:21:17 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Thanks Anthony and everyone else!!!

Philippe

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To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Fryday" <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: DOS: Current directory in a batch file


Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:07:47 +1300 (NZST)

58m11s ago ...
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:09:36 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

Fr> I mean, I need the complete path name.
Fr>
Fr> Basically, I want to put the current directory name in an environment variable.
Fr>
Fr> In UNIX, I'd write something like "export CURDIR=`pwd`" and get it over with in 2 seconds...

The following 2 files should do the trick:

İSETCD.BAT¨
copy setcd.bot tempcd.bat
cd >> tempcd.bat
tempcd.bat

İSETCD.BOT¨
set CURDIR=

(NB no carriage return after the set CURDIR=)

Running SETCD.BAT should set CUDIR=current directory

or robot.exe setcd.scr where:

İSETCD.SCR¨
!CD > cd.tmp
file r cd.tmp
get
!set CURDIR=$it
x

Tony

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:33:50 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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It must depend on the map data.  Where I live in the UK it was very accurate
and detailed.

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:08 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Dear AL, friendly neighbour

>Please try not to send inflamatory posts, or post that might offend

I feel like a little girl who has been prodded to throw stones into the
neighbour's pool by the boys on the block.

For every complaint on the list I have received exactly 12 private e-mails
saying "bravo - continue!"

So, would the senders please tell me which list to subscribe to where I can
find intelligent, politically incorrect SNAGS?

>the DOS version of "The Complete Works of Carl Sagan".

Al, you're an Angel - I've been looking for this for a long time; can you
please tell me where I can get it?

merci

from the little girl next door
ps. want me to pop around and clean your pool?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:34 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      formating Gutenberg texts
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

i've reduced the work to two steps:

1. delete top and bottom headers with Andreas's PALedit
2. remove form-feed characters and double lines with Lambert's WordSmart

here is documentation:

WordSmart, written entirely in assembly language, is a fast
reformatter for text files.

For instance, WordSmart can increase the line length of text
files created with relatively short lines, perhaps (as with this
file) because the writer assumed you'd be using a typical dot-
matrix printer setup. But if you are using compressed mode for
printing, you might prefer wider lines. WordSmart helps with this
by automatically increasing line lengths for you (or decreasing
them - your choice); you won't have to do so manually in a text
editor or word processor.

FEATURES:
o   Accepts input in the form of a source file whose name you
    specify on the command line, or accepts input from "standard
    input" (i.e., via a "pipe").

o   Writes an output file whose name you specify on the command
    line; otherwise, writes to "standard output," allowing you
    to redirect the results of processing to a file name or
    else "pipe" the output to some other program.

o   Can over-write an existing file at your option

o   Adds to or removes spaces at the left sides of lines.

o   Changes the lengths of lines (from 10 characters wide
    up to 60,000 characters wide). Can be used to remove "hard"
    line breaks within paragraphs completely, preserving the
    paragraph-endings themselves.

o   Removes form-feed characters.

o   Reduces runs of multiple spaces to a single space.

o   Returns errorlevels, useful when WordSmart is run from
    batch files.

o   Removes blank lines from files.

anyone wants a copy?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:40 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      swap lxpic pics
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

i have a collection of lxpic formatted pcx pics ready to view
anyone wants to swap their collection?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:48 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      filer error message
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

my filer shows an error saying it cannot display more than 250 files.
is that true?

merci

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:53 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      LOTUS v.2.2
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my LOTUS v.2.2 is not working properly because of some corrupted files

anyone can please send me

trans.com 36,178
vcwrk.xlt 19,264
wriwrk.xlt 23,136

merci

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:18:59 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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if the author of SHASS has moved, maybe it is possible to ask ASP:

"This program is produced by a member of the Association of
Shareware Professionals (ASP). ASP wants to make sure that the
shareware principle works for you. If you are unable to resolve
a shareware-related problem with an ASP member by contacting
the member directly, ASP may be able to help. The ASP Ombudsman
can help you resolve a dispute or problem with an ASP member,
but does not provide technical support for members' products.
Please write to the ASP Ombudsman at 545 Grover Road Muskegon
MI 49442 or send a Compuserve message via easyplex to ASP
Ombudsman 70007,3536."

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:08:11 -0500
Reply-To:     "randys@tsmser.com" <randys@tsmser.com>
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From:         Randy Simonson <randys@TSMSER.COM>
Organization: TSM Services, Inc.
Subject:      Re: formating Gutenberg texts
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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I would like a copy of Lambert's WordSmart.
Thanks,
Randy

-----Original Message-----
From:   Nathalie Bugeaud İSMTP:tps-seti@WANADOO.FR¨
Sent:   Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:17 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        formating Gutenberg texts

i've reduced the work to two steps:

1. delete top and bottom headers with Andreas's PALedit
2. remove form-feed characters and double lines with Lambert's WordSmart

here is documentation:

WordSmart, written entirely in assembly language, is a fast
reformatter for text files.

For instance, WordSmart can increase the line length of text
files created with relatively short lines, perhaps (as with this
file) because the writer assumed you'd be using a typical dot-
matrix printer setup. But if you are using compressed mode for
printing, you might prefer wider lines. WordSmart helps with this
by automatically increasing line lengths for you (or decreasing
them - your choice); you won't have to do so manually in a text
editor or word processor.

FEATURES:
o   Accepts input in the form of a source file whose name you
    specify on the command line, or accepts input from "standard
    input" (i.e., via a "pipe").

o   Writes an output file whose name you specify on the command
    line; otherwise, writes to "standard output," allowing you
    to redirect the results of processing to a file name or
    else "pipe" the output to some other program.

o   Can over-write an existing file at your option

o   Adds to or removes spaces at the left sides of lines.

o   Changes the lengths of lines (from 10 characters wide
    up to 60,000 characters wide). Can be used to remove "hard"
    line breaks within paragraphs completely, preserving the
    paragraph-endings themselves.

o   Removes form-feed characters.

o   Reduces runs of multiple spaces to a single space.

o   Returns errorlevels, useful when WordSmart is run from
    batch files.

o   Removes blank lines from files.

anyone wants a copy?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:11:10 -0400
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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From:         Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ADMIN: Re: FLUFF: science VS religion
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:08 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> I feel like a little girl who has been prodded to throw stones into the
> neighbour's pool by the boys on the block.
>
> For every complaint on the list I have received exactly 12 private e-mails
> saying "bravo - continue!"

No, you are an adult woman who know exactly what 'buttons to push' and the
result of those pushed buttons.

FWIW, I have also received emails of support.

This is my last posting on this subject.

Jeff

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Avi,

I sent a fax to your fax number and two emails to register@dasoft.com about
these two issues, and I have yet to receive a response. What should I do?

Thanks,

Philippe

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Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:

> The undocumented "TRUENAME" command can be used for that.
> "TRUENAME ." will return the current directory

Steve, I have never heard of that command.  And with my
SUBST'ed drives, it gives the true pathname.  Way Cool!


Stan

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Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE> wrote:

> pcmcia is easy to defrag with 'diskopt' ...
> On the lx200 I can run diskopt, but it's slowly, too

Klaus, I don't know what else you would use that utility for,
but there really is no need to defrag a solid state memory
device such as a flash card.  It will not run any faster.


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Werner Furlan <furlan@GMX.NET> wrote:

> I found out that
> when I have the HP200 connected to the external power supply,
> (regulated 12V switching PS)  I had connection difficulties with my
> internet provider

Wow, that is very unusual.  I wonder if there is some ground
loop forming between the LX's ac adapter and the modem and the
phone line.  And this ground loop is putting some hum or other
noise on the phone line.

You should try using a different AC adapter with the palmtop in
case yours is malfunctioning.

Try plugging the modem and palmtop's ac adapter into outlets on
different circuits.  See if this helps.

Also, with another extension on the same phone line, listen in
on the phone line while the modem is online and see if you can
hear any kinds of noises on the phone line.


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Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> Yes the phone dials, but Data Comm never shows any response
> from the phone on the display.  Neither AT nor ATZ get any response.
> As I type, the characters accumulate on one line--when I hit an
> enter, the cursor returns to the start of the same line

It almost sounds like the wire taking the data signal from the phone
back to the palmtop is not working.

> I have noticed that in turning the Com1 power on and off the Data Comm
> app gets very sluggish.  When disconnecting the serial cable I get
> junk characters on the screen.  Once I saw an OK from the phone, but
> I've been unable to reproduce it

Do communications with other devices via COM1 on the palmtop
work fine? For example, with a regular modem or with a PC? If
these all work, then I suspect your phone's cable it bad.  If
none of this other stuff works, then it seems like your COM
port (or HP serial cable) could be bad.

DataComm should automatically turn COM1 power on, but if you
have Buddy (or some other program) locking it off, then there
will be a problem.  Also, make sure you have hardware (RTS/CTS)
flow control enabled.


Stan

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Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> Dial=3DATDT8430480

Incorrect.  You don't put the ATDT in the Dial=3D string in
WWW.CFG.  It should be only the phone number like this:

Dial=3D8430480

> I've used several custom cables in a variety of configurations -
> all with the same result: works with DataComm, but not with WWW/LX.  I =
know
> my cross-over cable is good, since I use it to synch my LX with my =
laptop
> using LapLink & Transfile.  (I'd use a null modem adapter & gender =
changer
> to connect to the cell phone)  And the other straight through cables =
are
> also good, since I can synch with those when I use the null modem =
adapter &
> gender changer with my laptop

To help eliminate the unknowns of your custom cables, can you
borrow a regular HP serial cable and DB9-DB9 adapter to connect
directly to the phone's cable?

DataComm may be less strict about some of the hardware control
lines (such as Carrier Detect) than WWW/LX is.  So, if your
custom cable has this wrong, then this might explain your
trouble.

How are you running WWW/LX? If from within SysMgr, then are
you aware that SysMgr can interfere with serial communications?
 Try running WWW/LX from a pure DOS prompt or using NOFIDDLE.


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Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM> wrote:

> 1. I found part of the problem: I have always used PCMCIA modems, so
> I have had the COM 1 turned OFF in LXPRO....

If LXPRO is a TSR program that continually watches COM1 power
and forcable shuts it off (like Buddy does), then yes, that
would be a problem.

> 2. OK. Now I can start up DATACOMM, get a response from AT, get an
> appropriate answer from ATI3 ("Motorola CDMA Phone"), and even
> successfully dial the phone.
> And I have, in fact, been able to connect and get mail from my ISP in
> DATACOMM, however.

Good.  You are making progress. <g>

> But with the same settings (COM 1, ATZ, ATDT, 19200 bps) I get
> nowhere in acCIS or in WWW/LX. ("Busy or No Answer, Hanging Up")

I suggest NO init string.  Not even ATZ, but see below.

> I removed the dashes from the phone number in acCIS, and it
> worked flawlessly!!

I don't understand that.  But I very vaguely remember something
about dashes when I was first using the cel phone.  But I have
dashes in my WWW/LX & acCIS phone numbers right now and it is
fine.  I have 201-712-0479 as my CompuServe phone number in
both of these programs.

I have 7e1 set as the port parameters in acCIS.  Actually, I
just noticed I have AT m0 as my init string in order to shut
off modem sounds.  This is meant for the desktop modem, but it
does not seem to bother the cel phone.

> Now I just have to resolve IP address problems ("Aborting! We
> don't have a valid IP address.")

I have this in WWW.CFG for my CompuServe entry:

İCSIedl¨
;!!! CSIedl=3DCSi External Direct Local
Port=3D1
Baud=3D19200
Modem=3D1
OmniGo=3D0
ModemInit=3DAT m0
Dial=3D201-712-0479
PPP=3D1
Script=3DCIS_Script
Login=3D71031,2162
Password=3Dit's a secret
My_IP=3D0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=3D149.174.211.5
DNS2_IP=3D149.174.213.5


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Folks,

I was making some changes to my PalEdit configuration (PE.CFG)when I
noticed these two lines at the end of the file:

  İMore¨
  &notes2=c:\txt\notes.txt

I can't seem to figure out how to access this. The obvious choice, pushing
the blue More key, just takes me to the More Applications screen. I looked
in the docs and didn't see any reference to this. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Don




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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> It almost sounds like the wire taking the data signal from the phone
> back to the palmtop is not working.

I've spent several hours on the phone (landline!) with Motorola and
they concluded the phone was faulty.  After giving it some more
thought, I independently reached the same conclusion as you!


> Do communications with other devices via COM1 on the palmtop
> work fine? For example, with a regular modem or with a PC? If
> these all work, then I suspect your phone's cable it bad.  If
> none of this other stuff works, then it seems like your COM
> port (or HP serial cable) could be bad.

Yes, I borrowed an external serial modem from work to test my
200LX's serial function.  Data Comm fired up the modem and made
a connection to my ISP on the first try with default settings.

I've also tried the Com port on my desktop--I know the port works
as I use it for CPack.  Windows will install, but not get a response
from the modem.  I can also cause the StarTAC to dial from my
desktop with "ATDT>COM2" in a dos window.


> DataComm should automatically turn COM1 power on, but if you
> have Buddy (or some other program) locking it off, then there
> will be a problem.  Also, make sure you have hardware (RTS/CTS)
> flow control enabled.

I use Stefan Peichl's little lighton utility to toggle the port
power on and off, but have removed it from autoexec.bat with no
difference.  I'm convinced the cable (or the phone) is faulty,
and will see if I can try a different cable at the phone mart.

Thanks for the help, Stan!  I'll let you know what I find out.

Ted

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I originally installed my Zip drive without problems; but later installed a
Logitech Scanner which shares the parallel port. The scanner worked. Alot of
time elapsed before I again needed the Zip, but when I did it didn't work. I
phoned the help line which is freephone (here in Europe anyway) and they got
me to remove the Scanner. The Zip worked :-) The Scanner naturally did not
:-( . I since reinstalled the Scanner together with a patch which Logitech
gave me originally to avoid this conflict. I have no urgent need for the zip
at the moment, so I'm leaving well enough alone.

BTW, the installation manual in the software includes the European freephone
nos. on page 43. AFAIR Martin is in Norway? The Norway number is shown as
800 11677 (Oct. 1996)

Richard

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> > > > I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop just fine
>
> How did you install the zip drive on the 200lx?  I tried hooking up a zip
> drive to a pentium 2 laptop and a pentium 2 desktop with no luck.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> > > > I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop just fine
>
> How did you install the zip drive on the 200lx?  I tried hooking up a zip
> drive to a pentium 2 laptop and a pentium 2 desktop with no luck.

The Zip drive does not like sharing a parallel port with other devices, and
certainly not with a Logitech Scanner. Even when Logitech provided a patch
to solve the conflict, my Zip drive would not work. The Zip drive help line
got me to remove the Scanner. The Zip worked. When I copied what I wanted
with the Zip, I reinstalled the Scanner 'cos I need it more often than the
Zip.

BTW, the installation manual in the software shows the European Freephone
helplines on P.43. the number for Norway is 800 11677 (Oct.1996)

HTH

Richard

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Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:32:28 +1300 (NZST)

27m49s ago ...
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:04:39 -0600, Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM> =
wrote:

DP>   İMore¨
DP>   &notes2=3Dc:\txt\notes.txt
DP>
DP> I can't seem to figure out how to access this.

This might be found on a submenu if you press F6.
If you also have in PE.CFG something like this;

İmenu¨
....
&More=3DİMore¨

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Tony,

That's exactly right. I knew it had to be something easy . . . :)

Don

At 10:05 AM 10/11/00 +1300, Anthony G Hutchins wrote:
>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:32:28 +1300 (NZST)
>
>27m49s ago ...
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:04:39 -0600, Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
wrote:
>
>DP>   İMore¨
>DP>   &notes2=c:\txt\notes.txt
>DP>
>DP> I can't seem to figure out how to access this.
>
>This might be found on a submenu if you press F6.
>If you also have in PE.CFG something like this;
>
>İmenu¨
>....
>&More=İMore¨

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Lonac <lonac@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I made a third cable yesterday - just a straight through cable
> connecting a serial 9pin to the HP 10pin (HP 10th pin shield).  This =
should
> work, right?

I don't know.  But this info may help:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D

The wiring and pin-out of the 100LX F1015A cable and F1023A
adapter set.

F1015A - is a null modem cable to connect the 100/200LX
directly to a standard PC serial port with a DB9M connector

F1023A - a collection of 9 and 25 pin adapters to use with the
F1015A cable to connect to a variety of other devices.

 Product   Adapter    Adapter    Adapter  Connects to   That has
 Number   Connectors  Color      Icon     this device   this

  6639    9M to  9M   black      None     Modem          9F
  6640    9M to 25M   off-white  Printer  Printer        25F
  6641    9M to 25F   black      PC       Serial port    25M
  6642    9M to 25M   gray       Phone    Modem          25F

The 6639 and 6642 adapters are wired like a null modem to
counteract the null modem already in the HP cable when the
100/200Lx is to connect to a modem.  This effectively makes it
a straight-through cable.

 RS-232         Palmtop  DB25   HP Cable  '39  '40   '41   '42
 signal  Source  Port  Standard   (9F)    (9M) (25M) (25F) (25M)

 DCD      DCE      1      8         1       1    4     4     8
 RD       DCE      2      3         3       2    2     2     3
 TD       DTE      3      2         2       3    3     3     2
 DTR      DTE      4     20         6       4   5,6   5,6   20
 SG        -       5      7         5       5    7     7     7
 DSR      DCE      6      6         4       6   20    20     6
 RTS      DTE      7      4         8       7    8     8     4
 CTS      DCE      8      5         7       8   20    20     5
 RI       DCE      9     22         9       9    -     -    22
 -         -      10      -      shield

Notes:

1. The pins on the 100/200LX are numbered from top left to bottom right:

  (Coin Cell and IR) 1 2 3 4 5  (12VDC)
                     6 7 8 9 10

So (of course) the pins on the F1015A are the mirror image of
this (looking into end of cable):

    bump
  5 4 3 2 1
 10 9 8 7 6

2. The pin assignment of the 100/200LX's 10-pin connector are
the same as the pin numbers on a standard PC 9-pin serial
port.

3. Under Source, DTE stands for Data Terminal Equipment -
devices that act like terminals and connect to modems. DCE
stands for Data Communication Equipment - modem-like devices.
The serial ports on IBM PC-compatibles (like the palmtop) are
wired as DTEs. In other words a one-to-one cable from a
100/200LX (or any PC) to a modem should work.  This is
complicated by the fact that most modems do not have a 9-pin
connector (although many portable modems do). So you need a
9-pin to 25-pin converter.

4. The column "DB25 Standard" gives the corresponding pin on a
standard 25-pin RS-232 connector.

5. "9M", "9F", "25M" and "25F" refer to 9 and 25 pin, male and
female connectors.

6. These are the meanings of the RS-232 abbreviations:

  DCD - Data Carrier Detect  from modem
  RD  - Receive Data         from modem
  TD  - Transmit Data        to modem
  DTR - Data Terminal Ready  to modem
  SG  - Signal Ground
  DSR - Data Set Ready       from modem
  RTS - Request To Send      to modem
  CTS - Clear To Send        from modem
  RI  - Ring Indicator       from modem

7. The F1015A is _not_ a straight-thru cable. It is a
null-modem cable which exactly matches the blue LapLink
cable.

8. The '39 adapter undoes the scrambling of the F1015A cable.
The result is the equivalent of a standard PC 9-pin male
serial port.

9. The '40 and '41 adapters are the same except for the sex of
the 25-pin connector. Although the '41 looks like a
conventional PC 9-to-25-pin serial port adapter it is not!

10. The '42 adapter will give you a standard PC 25-pin male
connector.  As mentioned above it can connect to a modem with
a one-to-one cable or directly.

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=3D=3D=3D=3D


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If there are more than 250 files in a directory, then Filer can
only display the first 250 on it's screen.  This is an limit
set by the programing technique used by the programmers.  It
does not cause any other kind of problem, except that the list
will not show all files.


Stan

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Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> I've spent several hours on the phone (landline!) with Motorola and
> they concluded the phone was faulty

Well, The phone and/or the cable being bad certainly would
explain the troubles.  Hopefully, you can get them replaced and
then you will be working fine.


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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:51:29 -0400
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Tim wrote:

> Can someone tell me a compelling reason to upgrade.  I have 2.0 now and =
> don't really use it that much execpt when traveling.
>
> What are the differencies in the two products?


Yes,I also wonder about that.



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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:59:07 -0500
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> Ya but itsfun to push the limits!

I agree!

> anyway, according to the Quardeck Manifest program (D001-EFFF) and works
> fine normaly as EMS in conjunction with system manager, it's

Yes, all the EMM drivers use that area for the page mapping, but you need to
remember that when a program utilizes EMM it first gets a handle to its
allocated pages, and then anytime it needs a page of memory it requests that
some or all of it be mapped into the page map area and when it is done with
that memory it tells the EMM driver to unmap that area. In other words that
memory only stays mapped when the program or TSR is using it. That lets
System Manager work since the operating system on the palmtop is not a
multitasking one.

It does sound like you need to get a hold of the Developer's Kit as all the
info is in there that you are curious about.

Cheers,
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> If that is indeed what is happening, then it
> appears that the "no strings attached", free
> ISP days are over. :-(
>
> I hope that someone here can cast a more
> positive light on this.

Do you remember a few years ago when the web started getting popular
and all the old timers believed the web and AOL were going to
commercialize the internet?

I knew better.  It couldn't possibly happen.

Now, though, I'm starting to wonder.

Barry

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> I mean, I need the complete path name.
>
> Basically, I want to put the current directory
> name in an environment variable.
>
> In UNIX, I'd write something like "export
> CURDIR=`pwd`" and get it over with in 2 seconds...

Use what.exe.

Barry

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> The undocumented "TRUENAME" command
> can be used for that.

I've found truename to be unreliable.  It works on some systems and
not on others.  Even with the same major version of dos.  I've never
understood the problem but it fails a lot.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:40:00 -0400
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              LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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Steve Carder wrote:

> Are you using alkaline batteries and an older Flash card?  I had =
frequent low
> battery warnings with that combination before.  Now I use NiMH rechageab=
les and
> don't have the same problem.

Sorry I did not explain the problem very well. I get low
battery warnings even though the HP is connected to an AC
adaptor, without any PCMCIA card plugged in.

I happened all of a sudden. I really think that it is a
hardware problem.

The question is, can it be repaired? If so, I shall send it in.

Ka Tai

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:42:49 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Excellent.  I like to solve (figure out) things by
> programming.  To figure out the Heapsort algorithim, I
> wrote a 'find file duplicates' program.  To "understand"
> the LZW compression scheme, I wrote a program to decode
> GIF files.

I've done some of that too.  A lot of what I do is less serious,
though.

I did a program with bezier curves to try to understand how that
works.  I finally understood the code and how to get what I want
from it but I never did really understand the math.  I haven't had
much math.

I ran into something similar trying to do a boid program on the
palmtop modelled after Craig Reynold's boids.  That was a lot of fun
and I learned a lot but I finally got too far ahead of myself
mathematically.

But each time I do something like this, even though they don't
always succeed, I learn a lot and get a little more understanding of
math.  For example I taught myself to use matrices to do 2d
rotations and I understand pretty well how to use them now (with a
lot of reference material handy) even though I have no idea what
matrices really are.  I've read a number of explanations but I still
don't know what they are.  But I can use them.

I did some of the same with vectors, although I've begun to
understand them a little.  But only a little.

> Well, good for you.  I may try doing the programming on
> the 200LX sometime.  But things assemble so much faster
> on a Pentium, that's where I'll do most of my programming
> for now.  Hmm, restraurants..., doctor's offices?

I don't do any programming of any type on my desktop anymore.  It's
either the 200lx or my laptop or my 48gx (or 49g now).  Now and then
on my Tandy Model 100, and sometimes my Palm.

The Palm would be the ideal toy if it only had keys and didn't have
that damn gui.  Too bad.  The 200lx and the 48gx/49g are still the
best.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:47 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> my filer shows an error saying it cannot
> display more than 250 files.
> is that true?

I'm not aware of a filer limit, although there might be.  But there
is a dos limit to the number of files in the root directory of any
drive.  I can't remember the number, though.

Are you having this problem in the root of some drive or in a
subdirectory?

Barry

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FWIW, and TWIMC, there appears to be a problem with the list mirror
site.

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:11:54 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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Hi all,


Those that were interested in my patch for the old DOS task switcher
"Multiple Choice" can find the patch and relevant information on my home
page (made for the occasion):

  http://www.diku.dk/students/laustbn/


Let me know if there are any problems. I haven't actually used the program
myself for at least a year, probably more. I was lucky I could even find
the ZIP file :-)


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:54:19 -0700
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              Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: formating Gutenberg texts
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For stripping line feeds, M$ Word works fine for me. The drawback is that I
can't do it on the LX.

I first globally replace all double line feeds with a character that's not
likely to be in the text (I generally use the backslash character). Then I
globally replace all remaining line feeds with single spaces. Lastly, I
replace all the backslashes with line feeds. That's one more step than
Nathalie's method, but it doesn't add to the glut of software on my desktop
system.

Larry

At 10:16 AM 10/10/00, you wrote:
>i've reduced the work to two steps:
>
>1. delete top and bottom headers with Andreas's PALedit
>2. remove form-feed characters and double lines with Lambert's WordSmart
>
>here is documentation:
>
>WordSmart, written entirely in assembly language, is a fast
>reformatter for text files.
>
>For instance, WordSmart can increase the line length of text
>files created with relatively short lines, perhaps (as with this
>file) because the writer assumed you'd be using a typical dot-
>matrix printer setup. But if you are using compressed mode for
>printing, you might prefer wider lines. WordSmart helps with this
>by automatically increasing line lengths for you (or decreasing
>them - your choice); you won't have to do so manually in a text
>editor or word processor.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:09:00 -0600
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              Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
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Anyone who wants a free ISP might want to check out FreePort.com.  I
don't know if it'll work with DOS, or if they're nationwide yet and they
certainly aren't worldwide, but they are free, don't have a nag banner,
and only send occasional e-mails from sponsoring businesses. It's great!
Highly recommended!

Regards,
Richard Smith
seronac@freeport.com

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:36:40 -0400
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Yves;
I used JAM on my 8meg card with no problems. Then I bought a 40meg card and
thought I would set up a compressed partition to store large files like
HisWord/Online Bible. I quickly discovered a similar problem when making a
JAM partition using 10 megs or more. So far I have not figured it out.
Considering that JAM was not orginally intended to compress RAM Disks or
PCMCIA cards might be the problem. If you can get ahold of Stacker 3.1 or
higher, it includes Palmstacker, which will compress the whole thing at
once.

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yves Leurquin" <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: JAM Volume on Times2 Tech 32MB Drive


> Hi,
>
> I have been using JAM for years to compress my flash card and my 5MB C:
> drive. For some reason I am not able to mount a JAM drive installed of the
> new 32MB internal memory extension provided by Times2 Tech.  I get the
> following message :
>
>         Invalid disk change reading drive G:
>         Please insert volume IBMC
>

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              Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET>
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              was retained.
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I've tried removing the ATDT from the Dial = string, and also tried running
the program in three different environments (DOS, SysMgr, Windows 3.0).
Same result each time.  I think I've run out of options and will have to
purchase an HP Serial cable.

Thank you for all your suggestions, Stan!  I will let you know how I fare
with the new cable...

Lonac

At 03:51 PM 10/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
>> Dial=ATDT8430480
>
>Incorrect.  You don't put the ATDT in the Dial= string in
>WWW.CFG.  It should be only the phone number like this:
>
>Dial=8430480
>
>> I've used several custom cables in a variety of configurations -
>> all with the same result: works with DataComm, but not with WWW/LX.  I know
>> my cross-over cable is good, since I use it to synch my LX with my laptop
>> using LapLink & Transfile.  (I'd use a null modem adapter & gender changer
>> to connect to the cell phone)  And the other straight through cables are
>> also good, since I can synch with those when I use the null modem adapter &
>> gender changer with my laptop
>
>To help eliminate the unknowns of your custom cables, can you
>borrow a regular HP serial cable and DB9-DB9 adapter to connect
>directly to the phone's cable?
>
>DataComm may be less strict about some of the hardware control
>lines (such as Carrier Detect) than WWW/LX is.  So, if your
>custom cable has this wrong, then this might explain your
>trouble.
>
>How are you running WWW/LX? If from within SysMgr, then are
>you aware that SysMgr can interfere with serial communications?
> Try running WWW/LX from a pure DOS prompt or using NOFIDDLE.
>
>
>Stan
>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:59:52 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Finally, success!  I went in to my Verizon phone mart tonight.  They
exchanged the cable for me, and I had it working within minutes.  The
clerk was impressed.  I'm online right this second via the wireless.

Thanks again to this list in general, and Stan in particular!  Without
your help I wouldn't know what was possible, and would have given up
long ago.

Ted

--
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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:18:13 -0700
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Subject:      Re: New feature on LX-MapBlast
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Ken wrote:
> From: "Mike Kopplin" <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
> > A couple changes on http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html
>
> Checked out my address on the above site to see if I wanted to try
> LX-Mapblast....and noticed that the map produced was very inaccurate.  There
> were things on the map that are up to a half mile off.
>
> Do yourself a favor...if you thinking of getting this program, don't bother.
> Having an inaccurate map is probably worse than having no map.

Ken,

Sorry it didn't work for your area, but there are a couple things I'd like
to clear up.

First, LX-MapBlast is not a program you can get. It is several pages on my
server, running some perl scripts I wrote, which serve as a simple free
interface to the real MapBlast site, www.mapblast.com. The purpose is to
provide maps to users of WWW/LX and HV, which can't access directly sites
like MapBlast, MapQuest, etc. (From the logfiles I can see the majority of
browsers are not HV, but I'm sure the maps will be used on LX's :-)

Second, you are right that the map information is not always accurate.
Vicinity Corp (MapBlast) doesn't warrantee the accuracy of any of their
information. Obviously I have no control over the accuracy of any maps
obtained from MapBlast.

Third, in countries with good coverage, the majority of people have found
the maps to be quite accurate. In my area I find more errors on print maps
than I do with the MapBlast maps.

I would urge anyone to assess the accuracy of maps they retrieve before
relying on them, however, I take offense at the comment "...don't bother".
It would be more helpful to the LX community to say "The maps for
Sometown, USA are not accurate."

Mike Kopplin

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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:27:51 -0500 (EST)

David's HPLX-L mirror on the news server should be OK now.

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
> Klaus, I don't know what else you would use that utility for,
> but there really is no need to defrag a solid state memory
> device such as a flash card.  It will not run any faster.

Stan, It can be useful to defrag a ram disk in order to create a large
contiguous free space for certain tools that need them; example Software
Carousel wants such a space for its swap file.

If you ever have to get down to recovering a file sector by sector
you'll also thank yourself for keeping things defragged.

A less important reason is I just like the idea of everything being nice
and tidy.  (Not to be confused with house cleaning!  :-)

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:35:37 -0400
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Thanks a bunch.   That's exactly the program I was looking for.   It's
slightly flaky (unstable) but no more than I remember when I first tried it
on my 386 some years ago.   The funny part is that I cannot duplicate the
occasional strange behavior.   But definitely, this patch should be on SUPER
(if anyone ever updates that site anymore).

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laust Brock-Nannestad" <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:11 PM
Subject: Multiple Choice task switcher


> Hi all,
>
>
> Those that were interested in my patch for the old DOS task switcher
> "Multiple Choice" can find the patch and relevant information on my home
> page (made for the occasion):
>
>   http://www.diku.dk/students/laustbn/
>
>
> Let me know if there are any problems. I haven't actually used the program
> myself for at least a year, probably more. I was lucky I could even find
> the ZIP file :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:59:24 -0400
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There was a story about  a gift horse somewhere  .  .  .
MapBlast cannot find where I live blind-folded, but since I know where I
live  .  .  .  :-)

I find this service the only reasonable way to display any kind of a map on
the hplx
without going to a lot of trouble to create one yourself.   And the maps are
reasonably
accurate.   Mapquest maps are only marginally better.    I never found ANY
map that did
not let me down sometimes.

Thanks for the service!

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kopplin" <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: New feature on LX-MapBlast


> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Ken wrote:
> > From: "Mike Kopplin" <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
> > > A couple changes on http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html
> >
> > Checked out my address on the above site to see if I wanted to try
> > LX-Mapblast....and noticed that the map produced was very inaccurate.
There
> > were things on the map that are up to a half mile off.
> >
> > Do yourself a favor...if you thinking of getting this program, don't
bother.
> > Having an inaccurate map is probably worse than having no map.
>
> Ken,
>
> Sorry it didn't work for your area, but there are a couple things I'd like
> to clear up.
>
> First, LX-MapBlast is not a program you can get. It is several pages on my
> server, running some perl scripts I wrote, which serve as a simple free
> interface to the real MapBlast site, www.mapblast.com. The purpose is to
> provide maps to users of WWW/LX and HV, which can't access directly sites
> like MapBlast, MapQuest, etc. (From the logfiles I can see the majority of
> browsers are not HV, but I'm sure the maps will be used on LX's :-)
>
> Second, you are right that the map information is not always accurate.
> Vicinity Corp (MapBlast) doesn't warrantee the accuracy of any of their
> information. Obviously I have no control over the accuracy of any maps
> obtained from MapBlast.
>
> Third, in countries with good coverage, the majority of people have found
> the maps to be quite accurate. In my area I find more errors on print maps
> than I do with the MapBlast maps.
>
> I would urge anyone to assess the accuracy of maps they retrieve before
> relying on them, however, I take offense at the comment "...don't bother".
> It would be more helpful to the LX community to say "The maps for
> Sometown, USA are not accurate."
>
> Mike Kopplin
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:00:52 +1000
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Hi all

I found one of the authors of Jam and info was sent to the list some time
ago.  Forgive me but I cant find his email addy right now.  He even sent
through some source code to try and solve win95 issues. (It will be in
archives) His name is mentioned in the Jam Docs.  Maybe he could shed light
on this

The info below prompted a few thoughts.  Like Could/should a 32 MB memdisk
be partitioned into smaller drives to allow smaller cluster sizes or to
solve the problem outlined by Yves and Ron below.

Any guru's challenged enough to solve the situation?

I have my 8MB T2T 200LX jammed with no problems at all..  ie 17 MB of data
as well as 639k ram  :))





Ron Stalma wrote..
>Yves;
>I used JAM on my 8meg card with no problems. Then I bought a 40meg card and
>thought I would set up a compressed partition to store large files like
>HisWord/Online Bible. I quickly discovered a similar problem when making a
>JAM partition using 10 megs or more. So far I have not figured it out.
>Considering that JAM was not orginally intended to compress RAM Disks or
>PCMCIA cards might be the problem. If you can get ahold of Stacker 3.1 or
>higher, it includes Palmstacker, which will compress the whole thing at
>once.


>> I have been using JAM for years to compress my flash card and my 5MB C:
>> drive. For some reason I am not able to mount a JAM drive installed of the
>> new 32MB internal memory extension provided by Times2 Tech.  I get the
>> following message :
>>
>>         Invalid disk change reading drive G:
>>         Please insert volume IBMC

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>Not that I have seen other than Nathalie almost openly worshipping
>computers and chastising Christians.

you meant to say "rich men with computers" and "fundamentalists"

>Nor do many of us endorse yours.

you'll be surprised - many do! in fact, the latest count is 18 to 4

>Wanna bet? I don't think we have to worry about the French attacking
>the USA.....

Jeff, I admire your vigor and strength - uhh - i'd like a man like you :))

no, we don't attack them, we just screw them for their money :))

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              religion
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Nathalie  Please take this as deeply as you want..  I hope it impacts you
how you want..

LOTS of fun input into this discussion  :))

At 06:14 AM 11/10/00 +0200, you wrote:
>>Not that I have seen other than Nathalie almost openly worshipping
>>computers and chastising Christians.
>
>you meant to say "rich men with computers" and "fundamentalists"
>
>>Nor do many of us endorse yours.
>
>you'll be surprised - many do! in fact, the latest count is 18 to 4
>
>>Wanna bet? I don't think we have to worry about the French attacking
>>the USA.....
>
>Jeff, I admire your vigor and strength - uhh - i'd like a man like you :))
>
>no, we don't attack them, we just screw them for their money :))
>
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>
>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kopplin" <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>

I would point out that an inaccurate map is proabably worse than no map at
all.  If the maps for my area are inaccurate...then I have to assume that
many of these maps are bad.  I would point out that the area I live in just
outside of Boston.  I could understand if these maps were of a remote
section of another state.  I have tried many mapping programs from many
sources and most are more accurate than these maps.  Considering that the
Boston area is a high traffic area with many accidents I would have to
encourage people to steer clear of this product.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Domingo Diaz-V" <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
 Mapquest maps are only marginally better

I have checked map quest maps (and they are free) and have noticed that they
depict my area 1,000 times better.  The area I live in is a suburb of
Boston...if a map program can't get that right then how can I rely on it for
an isolated section of a state that I am not familiar with.  If I get into
an accident I can't turn around and blame the faulty map that I was
following.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:55:14 +1300
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              Anthony G Hutchins <AGHutchins@CS.COM>
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Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:43:11 +1300 (NZST)

16h20s ago ...
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:42:51 -0400, Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:

> Checked out my address on the above site to see if I wanted to try
> LX-Mapblast....and noticed that the map produced was very inaccurate.  =
There
> were things on the map that are up to a half mile off.

Were they isolated things - say a Post Office was shown on the wrong
street?, or were a whole bunch of things off by a half-mile?

Or did you try the maps for GPS and work out the errors in Lat/Long?
That would mean some streets were shorter/longer than they should be or
lay in the wrong direction?

I checked out some places in England I am familiar with and was amazed
how accurate the LX-Mapblast maps seemed to be. All the streets were =
there.
I never calibrated the maps or anything like that though but based on
the scale they looked very good.

Tony

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:42:40 +0200
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   Ron Stalma wrote:
> Yves;
> Considering that JAM was not orginally intended to compress RAM Disks =
or
> PCMCIA cards might be the problem. If you can get ahold of Stacker 3.1 =
or
> higher, it includes Palmstacker, which will compress the whole thing at
> once.

The JAM volume mounted on my 96MB CF Sundisk card has a size of 50MB
(Uncompressed) so size above 10MB or flash card hasn't been a problem for =
me.
What I like on JAM compared with Stacker is that JAM let me access the
compressed AND uncompressed part of the flash card simultaneously (Stacker
hides the uncompressed volume after mounting the stacked volume). This is
very usefull when I want to transfer files via the CFlash card to my =
laptop.

I guess the problem comes from interaction between the JAM driver and the
Times2Tech RAM driver. I hope Mack Bagette will be able to comment.

> > drive. For some reason I am not able to mount a JAM drive installed =
of the
> > new 32MB internal memory extension provided by Times2 Tech.  I get =
the
> > following message :
> >         Invalid disk change reading drive G:
> >         Please insert volume IBMC

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:50:31 -0400
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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@pobox.com> wrote:

> It can be useful to defrag a ram disk in order to create a large
> contiguous free space for certain tools that need them; example Software
> Carousel wants such a space for its swap file

True.

> If you ever have to get down to recovering a file sector by sector
> you'll also thank yourself for keeping things defragged

I doubt the average computer user would have a clue about how
to do this.  And Murphy's Law says something like the file you
are trying to recover will be the one file that got fragmented
since you last defragged.  :-(

> A less important reason is I just like the idea of everything being =
nice
> and tidy

I agree with this.  Even though, in reality, nothing runs any
faster, it somehow just "seems" to be cleaner and better after
a defrag. <grin>


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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:07:14 +1300
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              Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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What do you use for programming? I bought Borland C++ 2.0 from a second hand
software shop on the internet and it seems to work well enough. I actually
used my LX to get the hang of (basic) C++ programming. One way of filling
the quiet moments at work!

I also find it an interesting way of exploring maths: currently I have been
playing around with fractals. I have made the initial Mandelbrot program on
my 200lx and have since upgraded it to run under Windoze with Borland
Builder. Much as I like my LX, it does look better with 32 bit colour as
opposed to 4 shades of grey. (BTW if anyone on the list has interesting
formulas for fractals, please email me.)

Regards,
Stefan

> Date:    Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:42:49 -0500
> From:    Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Subject: Programming for fun
>
> > Excellent.  I like to solve (figure out) things by
> > programming.  To figure out the Heapsort algorithim, I
> > wrote a 'find file duplicates' program.  To "understand"
> > the LZW compression scheme, I wrote a program to decode
> > GIF files.
>
> I've done some of that too.  A lot of what I do is less serious,
> though.
>
> I did a program with bezier curves to try to understand how that
> works.  I finally understood the code and how to get what I want
> from it but I never did really understand the math.  I haven't had
> much math.
>
> I ran into something similar trying to do a boid program on the
> palmtop modelled after Craig Reynold's boids.  That was a lot of fun
> and I learned a lot but I finally got too far ahead of myself
> mathematically.
>
> But each time I do something like this, even though they don't
> always succeed, I learn a lot and get a little more understanding of
> math.  For example I taught myself to use matrices to do 2d
> rotations and I understand pretty well how to use them now (with a
> lot of reference material handy) even though I have no idea what
> matrices really are.  I've read a number of explanations but I still
> don't know what they are.  But I can use them.
>
> I did some of the same with vectors, although I've begun to
> understand them a little.  But only a little.
>
> > Well, good for you.  I may try doing the programming on
> > the 200LX sometime.  But things assemble so much faster
> > on a Pentium, that's where I'll do most of my programming
> > for now.  Hmm, restraurants..., doctor's offices?
>
> I don't do any programming of any type on my desktop anymore.  It's
> either the 200lx or my laptop or my 48gx (or 49g now).  Now and then
> on my Tandy Model 100, and sometimes my Palm.
>
> The Palm would be the ideal toy if it only had keys and didn't have
> that damn gui.  Too bad.  The 200lx and the 48gx/49g are still the
> best.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:16:43 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      LXTCP with Com1

As I mentioned last night, I got my 200LX online with my StarTAC
wireless phone using Data Comm.  Now I would like to do the same
with LXTCP, but so far have had no luck.

Could someone who has used DOSPPP and CHAT to go online with Com1
send me (or post) a copy of their pppd.cfg and chat script?

Thanks very much.

Ted

P.S.  What is the slot on the side of the StarTAC connectivity
cable for?  Can you plug in the AC adaptor there?  The documentation
with the connectivity kit is pretty pitiful.

--
Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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This May Help in Solving the Mystery ?
1. File Limit for DIR Command Sort Options
There are more files in the directory than the command interpreter
(COMMAND.COM) can sort. The maximum amount of memory that COMMAND.COM can
allocate for a DIR operation is 64 kilobytes minus 512 bytes. Each file
displayed by the DIR command requires 22 bytes for its entry, making the
total number of files that can be displayed in a sorted directory equal
to 2295 files İ(65536-512)/22¨.
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q100/8/42.asp?LN=EN-US&S
D=gn&FR=0
2.
MS-DOS Partitioning Summary
The following table shows the number of root directory entries for common
floppy and hard disk types:
Hard disks (12- and 16-bit FATs): 512
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q69/9/12.ASP
3. (Does not apply to the HPLX ? )
Common Ways of Detecting a Virus in MS-DOS
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q72/7/96.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD
=gn&FR=0
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:47 -0500 Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> writes:
> > my filer shows an error saying it cannot
> > display more than 250 files.
> > is that true?
>
> I'm not aware of a filer limit, although there might be.  But there
> is a dos limit to the number of files in the root directory of any
> drive.  I can't remember the number, though.
>
> Are you having this problem in the root of some drive or in a
> subdirectory?
>
> Barry

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Give them enough , and they will hang themselves ROTFLMAO

If it was a figure of speach , THIS LIST MEMBERS expect a more educated
reply and a polite on
If it was meant as stated continue reading:
Napoleon said: Chercher La Femme
And and Someone before him said:
A good Woman is Bad, a bad woman is worse than a thousand men put
together
And maybe our de-cloacked MD should have stopped when she was ahead
and a quick reminder of The Hypocratic Oath may be found @:
http://www.imagerynet.com/hippo.orig.html
http://www.imagerynet.com/hippo.ama.html
and she practices Medicine accordingly instead of taking their money

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:14:53 +1000 Russell Hemery
<rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> writes:
> Nathalie  Please take this as deeply as you want..  I hope it impacts
> you
> how you want..
>
> LOTS of fun input into this discussion  :))
>
> At 06:14 AM 11/10/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >>Not that I have seen other than Nathalie almost openly worshipping
> >>computers and chastising Christians.
> >
> >you meant to say "rich men with computers" and "fundamentalists"
> >
> >>Nor do many of us endorse yours.
> >
> >you'll be surprised - many do! in fact, the latest count is 18 to 4
> >
> >>Wanna bet? I don't think we have to worry about the French
> attacking
> >>the USA.....
> >
> >Jeff, I admire your vigor and strength - uhh - i'd like a man like
> you :))
> >
> >no, we don't attack them, we just screw them for their money :))

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Hi,

I basically followed the instructions I found at Rod Whitby's web page-
I think it was... Anyway, can map drives on my server and even print
from DOS applications such as MS Word for DOS.

Jorgen

> Jorgen,
>
> that sounds interesting, I never got NETBEUI to work.
>
> Maybe I was doing something wrong.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
>
> jorgen@palmtop.net,
> > Hi,
> >
> > So far I have tried NETBEUI and TCP/IP stuff and so far so good.
> > WWW/LX, POST/LX & HV works, but also all the LXTCP tools.
> >
> > Jorgen

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:14:43 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> you'll be surprised - many do! in fact, the latest count is 18 to 4

Sigh..... In who's poll?

Jeff

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John A. Evans - N0HJ writes:
>
>   Now that you have achieved success, perhaps you could write up the total
> experience and post it.  Maybe this time, I'll pay attention :-)

Well, there really is very little to write.  As Stan said initially,
it is absurdly simple.  You need the StarTAC 7868 with mini-browser
enabled, and the cables from each connectivity kit.  The cables are
connected to each device and then to each other with the HP 9-pin gender
changer.

Once the physical connection is made, the last step is to configure your
communications software with baud=19200, Com1, parity=none, data bits=8,
stop bits=1, and hardware flow control (i.e., RTS-CTS).  Then simply
initiate and conduct the session as you would with any modem.

Of course, I could write several pages describing the efforts it took
to track down the hardware problem, but I doubt the list is interested in that!  <grin>

Ted

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> If there are more than 250 files in a directory, then Filer can
> only display the first 250 on it's screen.

However, you can use the filter option (F4) to choose which 250
files are shown on its screen.  So all files in a subdirectory
can be accessed.

>  This is an limit
> set by the programing technique used by the programmers.

Basicly, a choice of program size versus flexibility.  You
allocate so many resources for a given task, given your
expectations on the use of the program.  In this case, the
memory required for sorting and maintaining the list of
files versus how many applications are available.

HTH
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Barry,

Good title change.

> I did a program with bezier curves to try to understand how that
> works.  I finally understood the code and how to get what I want
> from it but I never did really understand the math.

Well, in one respect, if you understand the code and how to get
what you want, you _do_ understand the underlying math.

> I ran into something similar trying to do a boid program on the
> palmtop modelled after Craig Reynold's boids.

That's what programming seems to be best at.  Trying out ideas.
(And when you are lucky, you learn something useful.)  Looked
at Boids, but.....

> For example I taught myself to use matrices to do 2d
> rotations and I understand pretty well how to use them now (with a
> lot of reference material handy) even though I have no idea what
> matrices really are.  I've read a number of explanations but I still
> don't know what they are.  But I can use them.

> I did some of the same with vectors, although I've begun to
> understand them a little.  But only a little.

If you can use them, either you know what they are, or you don't
need to know.  By the way, a good explanation of using matricies
and vectors is in the "PostScript Language Reference Manual" and
the "PostScript Tutorial and Cookbook".  Some discussion of
bezier curves is in there as well as the 'curveto' operator is
based on a Bezier cubic section.  PostScript has a very real
advantage as is a real visual (graphic) language.

> I don't do any programming of any type on my desktop anymore.

> The 200lx and the 48gx/49g are still the best.

Well, have done some on the 200LX and HP 67.  Maybe an
Omnibook or PC110 would be nice.  Hm, the HP 110+ was
an interesting machine.  They might be cheap now.

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Mike Rutkowski wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to use a wand barcode scanner with
> the HP 200LX and how to do it if possible ?

PC magazine used to have ads for barcode stuff in the back of the
magazine, you night check a recent issue to see if they still exist.
(I no longer subscribe so I can't check for you.)

Cheers... Russ

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Congratulations, Ted.  When you get everything working
perfectly, send the HPLX-L list a _M_essage from an _U_nusual
_P_lace.  We call these MUP's.  This is a message composed and
sent with the palmtop from an interesting place.  Usually a
place that cannot have Email sent from it without the
ultraportable capabilities of the 200LX.

I sent a MUP to the Palmtop forum on CompuServe from the middle
of an apple orchard while out family was apple picking.


Stan

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Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:

> However, you can use the filter option (F4) to choose which 250
> files are shown on its screen.  So all files in a subdirectory
> can be accessed

Have you tried this? I don't know if the Filer limit of 250
files has to do with how many file names it can get from the
directory and work with (such as sort and Filter) or if it can
always get all file names from the directory but only display
250 on the screen list.

I fear that it may be the first case.  But I could be wrong.


Stan

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Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> P.S.  What is the slot on the side of the StarTAC connectivity
> cable for?  Can you plug in the AC adaptor there?

Yes.  I have done it.  Clever idea from Motorola.  This way you
can go line for long periods with the phone while the phone is
on AC (or car power) and will not kill the batteries.


Stan

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> I was asking for the next step to separate the string which was
> produced by pick.exe into 4 variables
>
>    <Volume> <Path> <Filename> <Fileextension>

If this group can't come up with an answer than it probably cannot be
done using normal batch language syntax.

I use something called GET which is (was?) a shareware program that
greatly extends the batch language and uses variables.

Maybe tony's Robot syntax can handle it????

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Nathalie:

> from the little girl next door
> ps. want me to pop around and clean your pool?

Was that "pop" or "poop?" (g)

From someone who can handle a little right/left wing and
religious/areligious propaganda mixed in with substance.

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> my filer shows an error saying it cannot display more than 250 files.
> is that true?

Adding to what Stan answered, I believe that it shows files in the order
they are in the directory table (fat) and not just the first 250 (or
whatever) alphabetical files.

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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Anthony G Hutchins" <AGHutchins@CS.COM>
>> Checked out my address on the above site to see if I wanted to try
>> LX-Mapblast....and noticed that the map produced was very inaccurate.
There
>> were things on the map that are up to a half mile off.

>Were they isolated things - say a Post Office was shown on the wrong
>street?, or were a whole bunch of things off by a half-mile?

No...they were obvious things like railroad tracks, intersections, etc.

>Or did you try the maps for GPS and work out the errors in Lat/Long?
>That would mean some streets were shorter/longer than they should be or
>lay in the wrong direction?

Didn't try any GPS....I compared to maps on things like yahoo.com,
bigyellow.com, etc.  The problem wasn't the lat/long...it was the detail
that was way off.

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> Does anyone know if it is possible to use a wand barcode scanner with
> the HP 200LX and how to do it if possible ?

The Palmtop Paper use to have an ad for such a device/interface.  So it
is possible.

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> > you'll be surprised - many do! in fact, the latest count is 18 to 4
>
> Sigh..... In who's poll?

The numbers don't matter unless this is an MSNBC poll (and does anyone
question NBC's objectivity when it comes to coverage of MS?) with a
margin of error of +\-.

The US Constitution protects minority rights from majority dictates in
many instances.  But even that great (let's debate that, too) document
does not bind the non-Americans on this list.   Al's Constitution is the
governing principle here.

Some folks here like to tag on christian affirmative taglines.  The good
doctor likes to get in her shots.

The list includes folks of many religious persuasions and political
philosophies.  I let some of the "slights" go by but occasionally one or
two raise my hackles, too.  Let's deal with the HP and accept an
occasional lapse on all sides of these many issues.

(flameguard on!)

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Subject:      Re: New feature on LX-MapBlast
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Ken wrote:
> From: "Domingo Diaz-V" <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>  Mapquest maps are only marginally better
>
> I have checked map quest maps (and they are free) and have noticed that they
> depict my area 1,000 times better.

I'm not sure how you quantify "1000 times better". Since MapQuest and
MapBlast get much of their data from the same sources, I wouldn't agree
that MapQuest is generally more accurate than MapBlast anyway. MapQuest
does have much better coverage of smaller or what MapBlast apparently
feels are less important countries. In such cases you could argue that the
coverage is 1000 times better, but I don't know about accuracy.

> The area I live in is a suburb of
> Boston...if a map program can't get that right then how can I rely on it for
> an isolated section of a state that I am not familiar with.

From your ISP, I am assuming this is the town of Braintree, MA. I did a
comparison for myself of MapQuest and MapBlast. I thought the police
station at 282 Union St. would be a good test as an important place to
go. The maps agree about the location within perhaps 50 feet. MapQuest
shows the location in the middle of Union St., MapBlast off the road to
the north. I don't know which is the actual location, but I think it's
close enough to call it a tie.

Then I checked out the Braintree Historical Society at 31 Tenney
Road. MapQuest shows the location as the intersection of Tenney and
Washington Park. MapBlast shows it about 250 feet north on Tenney, on the
west side of the road. Again, not being there, I don't know which is more
accurate.

Checking out my own address, MapBlast shows the location right on
spot. MapQuest shows it on the wrong side of the street, perhaps 75 feet
away. Some of the streets in the vicinity also show some bends that aren't
there, and aren't shown on the MapBlast map. MapBlast wins this one by a
small margin. Both maps would be adequate for someone to find my house.

> If I get into
> an accident I can't turn around and blame the faulty map that I was
> following.

You should probably be looking at the streets when driving, and not at the
palmtop :-)

Seriously though, if you would like to create an HV compatible front-end
for MapQuest, I'm sure the list members living in the countries with poor
MapBlast coverage would be very appreciative.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:06:24 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:
>
> > However, you can use the filter option (F4) to choose which 250
> > files are shown on its screen.  So all files in a subdirectory
> > can be accessed
>
> Have you tried this? I don't know if the Filer limit of 250
> files has to do with how many file names it can get from the
> directory and work with (such as sort and Filter) or if it can
> always get all file names from the directory but only display
> 250 on the screen list.

I'm pretty sure I've used a filter in the CPack implementation of
Filer on my desktop to get around the 250 file limit.  Don't know
if this is also true for the 200LX, but would expect it to be.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:46:13 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Mike,

> Seriously though, if you would like to create an HV compatible front-end
> for MapQuest, I'm sure the list members living in the countries with poor
> MapBlast coverage would be very appreciative.

A smart proposal.

Kind regards

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:16:18 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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I'll see if I can find the adds booklet that came with my hplx.  I believe
it had a wand barcode scanner in it.

Domingo

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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: HP200LX and Barcode Wand Scanner


> > Does anyone know if it is possible to use a wand barcode scanner with
> > the HP 200LX and how to do it if possible ?
>
> The Palmtop Paper use to have an ad for such a device/interface.  So it
> is possible.
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:38:54 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> Today, I again checked on One Nation On Line's website (www.1nol.com) =
and
> continue to get the same surprise. (I believe that it was the last
> nationwide free ISP left that didn't force the users to view a floating
> banner ad or require the user to fill out surveys.)

I received you message from the HPLX list on my 200LX using WWW/LX with =
One
Nation Online as my ISP.  I never see any banners on my palmtop <g>.  I =
set up
an account with 1NOL using my desktop browser.  Then I set up WWW/LX =
using the
recommendations from a web site posted on this list.

http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/dosinet.htm

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:54:01 +0200
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There is a new HP DJ Printer on the market, but I could not find it
in a shop yet to try. I wonder, if its IR-Port can print from a HP200 .
Our HP Laserjet 2100 can, but the Photosmart P1100 cannot.
Has anybody on the list already seen this printer and could try?

The HP Hotline in Austria could not tell me for sure, and 2
dealers I asked did not know and the third one did not answer.
One of them told me that in the manual there was mentioned:

IRLPT
Jetsend
OBex

the only thing I know is that Jetsend does not work with the
HP200, there is no driver available.

Werner



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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:07:13 -0500
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              Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM>
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I have both the HP 200 and Palm computer (IBM Thinkpad C3 identical to a Palm V)
but like the Palm V to take around because there is a very compact (foldable)
full size keyboard for it, by Palm for $99 that is the size of a deck of cards
for the seeing-impaired when folded.  Both the keyboard and the Palm computer
fit in a leather belt case.

I had bought an external keyboard for the HP200 but it only seemed to work about
10 percent of time--very flaky and undependable.  The external keyboard for the
Palm always works.

One question, does anyone know of a dependable external keyboard (or driver software)
for the HP200?  My son would like to use my HP200 if I can get a dependable external
keyboard for it.

Thanks!

Roleigh Martin


>...
>As I see it, the Pilot has two heavy downsides compared to the LX, lack of
>keyboard and lack of expandability. These make it a far poorer choice for a
>standalone computer, e.g. for protracted trips. Graffiti just doesn't work
>anywhere nearly as well as a keyboard.
>...
>
>-Bennett
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:20:41 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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When we purchased the almost 4000 HP 200LX's from the Dutch Railway company,
we also received 4000 1.5 rechargeable SRAM cards.

They look like flash cards since the battery is not visible.  However, by
taking one a part a (rechargeable) battery that looks like the HP 200LX
backup battery can be found. Unfortunately, the cards were NOT designed to
replace the battery. After figuring out a system, it would probably take
15-30 minutes to take card apart, replace the battery, and glue things back
in place.

The card battery gets recharged when it is placed in a 200LX (or other PC
card slot).

The problem is they came with no specifications.  Therefore, we know nothing
about them.  Here are some obvious questions.

1. How long will the data on the card last between charges outside the
palmtop?

2. How long outside the palmtop before the rechargeable battery completely
dies?

3. How much drain on the 200LX batteries?

4. How long does the card need to be in the palmtop before it is recharged?

5. Is there an optimal method of keeping them charged?

These cards appear quite warn.  Apparently, they proved very reliable for
the Dutch Railway as they put a new train schedule on them every week.

The cards have not been in palmtops for as long as several months, and the
few I tested still had files on them when they were put in my palmtop.

If there are any on this list that would like to test them and think can
supply us with answers, please email me.  Give your address and tell me how
many cards (1 or more) you need to properly do the testing.

Also, if there is anyone interested in purchasing these cards in volume,
assuming they meet your specifications, please email me.

As always, THANKS.

Hal at Thaddeus

P.S. We have been able to keep up with upgrades and repairs when sent in.
However, we are still behind processing HP 200LX orders. Please be patient.
We don't anticipate being caught up until the end of November when we can
ship within a few days after receiving the order. Now there may be a 2-4
week delay.  It takes quite a bit of time to properly test and clean each
palmtop, and we've had a few volume orders that cause the delay. Also, we
are short-staffed until Nov 1.  Thanks for your patience.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:21:26 -0400
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"Werner Furlan"<furlan@gmx.net> wrote:

> My modem is a EXP Pcmcia Modem inside the HPLX.
> I checked the phone line, but nothing to hear like a hum.
>
> I tried with my ham radio power supply, 30 A, the same problem

I think you may be right that there is something that has gone
wrong in either the PCMCIA modem or, more likely, the palmtop's
power supply circuits.  I would try a different modem just to
see if it makes any difference.

If it really is the palmtop, then you would need another
motherboard.  :-(


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:21:23 -0400
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Lonac <lonac@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I think I've run out of options and will have to
> purchase an HP Serial cable

You should try to borrow one from a friend for testing
purposes.

Did you see that Ted had a bad PHONE cable and after he
exchanged it all was working fine? Perhaps you have a broken
phone cable.  Try exchanging it at the store where you got it.


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:21:29 -0400
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<Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de> wrote:

> What I was saying, is, that a program only
> using INT5F also runs on the HP95. But the program must be
> aware of that, by first detecting the model, because the screen
> mode has to be set different on the 95 than on a 100/200. But once
> the screen mode is set, the rest of the code can be identical.
> Even if output is designed for 640x200 pixel, you will see the
> upper left quarter of the screen on the 95. This is the so
> called clip feature of all palmtops (95/100/200):
>
> The graphics functions of INT5F use virtual screens of any
> size. Once you defined such a virtual screen, output is
> automatically restricted to this screen size

Very interesting, Stefan.  Thanks for the information.


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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:31:10 -0500
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              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I just purchased a used hp200lx and the 2-3 rightmost characters appear on
the lefthand side and everything else is shifted to the right.  What can I
do?

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:39:08 -0400
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:31:10 -0500, William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I just purchased a used hp200lx and the 2-3 rightmost characters appear on
> the lefthand side and everything else is shifted to the right.  What can I
> do?

It sounds like a doublespeed unit and it probably needs the driver loaded.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:46:01 +0200
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              "g. van wirdum" <v.wirdum@HCCNET.NL>
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I never tried to put more than 250 files in one directory on my 200LX.
However, I believe I once checked that CPack's filer, which will not show
you more than 250 files in one listing either, can see the others depending
on the sorting or filtering applied, and so can the 200LX's filer in the
directories of the computer it is connected to.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:44:53 -0500
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              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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It does look like the case has been opened at some time.  Do you know where
I can get a driver?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Screen problem


> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:31:10 -0500, William England
<wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > I just purchased a used hp200lx and the 2-3 rightmost characters appear
on
> > the lefthand side and everything else is shifted to the right.  What can
I
> > do?
>
> It sounds like a doublespeed unit and it probably needs the driver loaded.
>
> Jeff
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:32:01 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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>>does anyone know of a dependable external keyboard (or driver software)
for the HP200?  <<

I use the KeyMate solution from Thaddeus. Love it. Standard desktop keyboard
($13) plus a dongle thingy. Neat.  (Not necessarily best for forgetful road
warriors--cable, battery, charger, connection box, IR hose...hmm what did I
forget?)

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:49:11 -0400
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:44:53 -0500, William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> It does look like the case has been opened at some time.  Do you know where
> I can get a driver?

Email Mack at mack@times2tech.com or if you bought it from Thaddeus drop
them an email.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:03:05 -0500
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              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I used transfile and the serial port worked fine.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Screen problem


> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:44:53 -0500, William England
<wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > It does look like the case has been opened at some time.  Do you know
where
> > I can get a driver?
>
> Email Mack at mack@times2tech.com or if you bought it from Thaddeus drop
> them an email.
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
>              --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
>              --         http://www.NotAChance.com         --
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:11:34 -0400
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              rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM
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Hi Stan!

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:51:06 -0400, Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.CO=
M> wrote:

 > > Dial=3DATDT8430480
 >
 > Incorrect.  You don't put the ATDT in the Dial=3D string in
 > WWW.CFG.  It should be only the phone number like this:
 >
 > Dial=3D8430480

I too have the dial prefix in the Dial=3DATDT12345 variable. Where else
would I put "ATDT" if not into the dial string?

Ciao,
Tom
www.rundel.net/palmtop

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:09:48 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Where I live in Braintree Ma there are railroad tracks running through town.
The tracks run right past my house but Mapblast shows the railroad tracks a
1/2 mile away.  Considering that the tracks have very poor signals...a map
had better get a hazard like that in the right spot.  The tracks run for
many miles...it is not a small landmark that is easy to miss.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:20:39 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roleigh Martin" <rol@UHC.COM>
> One question, does anyone know of a dependable external keyboard (or
driver software)
> for the HP200?
I don't bother with an external keyboard for the 200lx.  I have perfected
the technique of typing on the 200lx with the existing keyboard (it does
take some practice to get used to).

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:25:59 -0500
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              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I am an idiot.  I called Thaddeus.  You are correct it is a doublespeed
unit, and it has been upgraded to 6 meg!  It was sold to me as a 2 meg unit.
The lady at Thad. said they would email me the drivers.  They are so nice
there.  I have dealt with them before and it has always been a pleasure.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@notachance.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "William England"
<wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Screen problem


> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:44:53 -0500, William England
<wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > It does look like the case has been opened at some time.  Do you know
where
> > I can get a driver?
>
> Email Mack at mack@times2tech.com or if you bought it from Thaddeus drop
> them an email.
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
>              --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
>              --         http://www.NotAChance.com         --
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:26:07 -0400
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hello!

I recently bought  a Kodak DC20 camera from eBay. It's a great little
camera and I'm about to try downloading pictures to the lx.

Does anybody make a cable with a Kodak plug on 1 end and a correctly
configured lx plug on the other? If not I'll have to spend some time with=

my old soldering iron.

Any other tips from people using the DC20 with their lx would be
appreciated. I've gotten help from www.bevhoward.com, who pointed me to
Oliver Hartmann's web site. Bev makes his own cables and has an interesti=
ng
web site.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:35:30 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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I had a DC20 once, but sold it to another list member.

I followed some tips from somewhere and built a plug adapter that had the Kodak
plug on one end and a 9-pin serial on the other ... and just used the LX serial
cable to connect to the LX.  The adapter was about 2" long, but was easy to
carry along with the DC20 in a camera case.

I don't have the wiring details anymore, but I made it with crimped pins cuz I
can't solder if my life depended on it ... so it shouldn't be hard to make.

- Longden





Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> on 10/11/2000 02:26:07 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  DC20 Custom Cable



Hello!

I recently bought  a Kodak DC20 camera from eBay. It's a great little
camera and I'm about to try downloading pictures to the lx.

Does anybody make a cable with a Kodak plug on 1 end and a correctly
configured lx plug on the other? If not I'll have to spend some time with
my old soldering iron.

Any other tips from people using the DC20 with their lx would be
appreciated. I've gotten help from www.bevhoward.com, who pointed me to
Oliver Hartmann's web site. Bev makes his own cables and has an interesting
web site.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:10:05 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Subject: Free ISPs, Was: One Nation On Line

Hi Richard,

>Anyone who wants a free ISP might want to check out FreePort.com.  I
>don't know if it'll work with DOS, or if they're nationwide yet and they
>certainly aren't worldwide, but they are free, don't have a nag banner,
>and only send occasional e-mails from sponsoring businesses. It's great!
>Highly recommended!

Thanks a lot for the info.  I'll check it out right away. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

________________________________________________________________
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Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:23:24 -0400
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Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM> wrote:

> I too have the dial prefix in the Dial=3DATDT12345 variable. Where else
> would I put "ATDT" if not into the dial string?

Good question, Tom.  I looked further, and I realized I was
wrong in saying having ATDT in the Dial=3D was incorrect.  I have
the following also in my WWW.CFG:

İGlobal¨
DialAT=3DATdt

Which sets the dial prefix on a global basis so that I don't
need it in each Dial=3D line.  The other advantage of this is
that that now the dial command is in a variable and can be
changed with a setting in the Shift-F5 feature of Post/LX.

Therefore, most people need: Dial=3DAT DT 123-4567

I am sorry if this caused any confusion.


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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:23:27 -0400
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William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I am an idiot.  I called Thaddeus.  You are correct it is a doublespeed
> unit, and it has been upgraded to 6 meg!

You certainly are not.  You got a double speed 6MB unit when
the seller thought it was only a 2MB 200LX.  Sounds like a good
deal to me.


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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:14:33 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Subject:      OT CGI Script Help Needed
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Is anyone here fluent at writing cgi scripts in perl? I need one that will
look at the contents of a password protected directory that isn't web
viewable and sort the file names into alphanumerical order then display
them as web viewable clickable links. I have been fooling around with one
script but just can't get it to do what I need it to do. Any thought,
ideas or suggestions would be appreciated!

Jeff

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             --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:00:22 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: 1.5 Rechargeable SRAM cards
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> 1. How long will the data on the card last between charges outside the
> palmtop?

Well, my sram card lasted about a year with its coin cell.  So if the
internal battery is similar to the one in the HP it probably would last
between 8 and 12 months once fully charged.  Although, I would guess
that they have a limited life recharge-wise???

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:18:08 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: OT CGI Script Help Needed
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.OSF.4.21.0010111912230.9241-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net> from
              "Jeff" at Oct 11, 2000 07:14:33 PM
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> Is anyone here fluent at writing cgi scripts in perl? I need one that will
> look at the contents of a password protected directory that isn't web
> viewable and sort the file names into alphanumerical order then display
> them as web viewable clickable links. I have been fooling around with one
> script but just can't get it to do what I need it to do. Any thought,
> ideas or suggestions would be appreciated!

Jeff:

Do you even need such a script?  Let me assume you're talking about a
web site hosted here on the HiWAAY system.  You can controll the access
with the .htaccess file.  Then if you leave out any index.html file,
you should be able to get the listing you're after by just pointing
to the directory with your browser and providing the username/password.
Even if the directory does contain an index.html file, you can still get
the listing you want by using the ftp:// URL prefix.  Will this solve
your problem, at least temporarily?

Write me off-list if you want more assistance.

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:28:09 -0400
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              Andy Kelley N1YEW <n1yew@SOFTHOME.NET>
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Does it have to be in PERL??

If not, I can write scripts in other languages(C/C++)

What platform(LINUX i hope :)

Get back to me on this..... TTYL
Andy K. N1YEW

Peace


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:14 PM
Subject: OT CGI Script Help Needed


> Is anyone here fluent at writing cgi scripts in perl? I need one that will
> look at the contents of a password protected directory that isn't web
> viewable and sort the file names into alphanumerical order then display
> them as web viewable clickable links. I have been fooling around with one
> script but just can't get it to do what I need it to do. Any thought,
> ideas or suggestions would be appreciated!
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
>              --   B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com     --
>              - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! -
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>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:26:19 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: New feature on LX-MapBlast
Comments: To: Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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>>If I get into
>>an accident I can't turn around and blame the faulty map that I was
>>following.

I don't really follow why a map of any accuracy would cause you to get into
an accident

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:02:33 -0700
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Ken wrote:

> Where I live in Braintree Ma there are railroad tracks running through town.
> The tracks run right past my house but Mapblast shows the railroad tracks a
> 1/2 mile away.  Considering that the tracks have very poor signals...a map
> had better get a hazard like that in the right spot.  The tracks run for
> many miles...it is not a small landmark that is easy to miss.

Ok, now that's something we can compare. Using online white pages, I found
an address for Kenneth London in Braintree. I created maps for this
address using both MapQuest and MapBlast and overlaid them. You can view
the composite here

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/comparison.gif

The colored map in the background is the MapQuest map, the dark black
lines in the foreground are the MapBlast map. The rail lines are a little
hard to tell apart depending on your monitor, but the MapBlast lines are
darker. Things don't line up perfectly as I just quickly slapped them
together, but it's close enough to compare. The black circle is a
half-mile radius around your approximate location.

Allowing for my sloppiness in overlaying, I would say the two maps agree
quite well. In fact the only real difference I see is that the MapBlast
map shows a small spur near the top of the circle that MapQuest doesn't.
NOTE: the lack of track on the MapBlast map at the upper right corner is
due to the map being cut off at that point.

So, if there's a rail line that MapBlast doesn't show, I would have to say
that MapQuest doesn't show it either, and therefore isn't any more
accurate.

However, if you think the MapBlast maps are not accurate for your area,
please feel free to use MapQuest, or any of the many other mapping
programs you found that are more accurate. And let me know if you find one
that you can access with the LX.

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:08:44 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Subject:      CGI Problem Solved :)
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My cgi woes have been solved by Laust. My sincere thanks go out to ALL who
offered to help. I hope I can return the favor one day :)

Jeff

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             --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:08:46 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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>>Not that I have seen other than
>> Nathalie almost openly worshipping
>>computers and chastising Christians.
>
>you meant to say "rich men with computers"
>and "fundamentalists"

I believe your post that started all this trouble spoke against
religion in general.  Not just against Christians or
fundamentalists.

It might be said that the religious range from those hypocrites who
only give lip service to some group but aren't really at all
bothered by it's ideas,  to those who are sincere in their devotion
and dedication to living their lives and guiding their acts and
thoughts by some system of beliefs or according to the precepts of
some greater power.  I believe we might call this the
hypocrasy/sincerity continuum.  The first group would be far on the
hypocracy side of this continuum and the second would be way over
there on the sincere side.

Given that, and having an idea about your feelings about religion,
might we theorize that your respect for people is directly
proportional to their hypocracy and/or inversly proportional to
their sincerity?

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:17:43 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: One Nation On Line

Hi Steve,

>I received you message from the HPLX list on my 200LX using WWW/LX with
One
>Nation Online as my ISP.  I never see any banners on my palmtop <g>.  I
set up
>an account with 1NOL using my desktop browser.  Then I set up WWW/LX
using the
>recommendations from a web site posted on this list.
>
>http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/dosinet.htm

Thanks for bringing up the URL for that great resource, Steve. :-)

I'm glad you had the chance to sign up for a One Nation On Line account
and I've heard about others who like that service, but how long has it
been since you checked out the www.1nol.com site?  Go ahead and check it
out.  I think you'll see what I'm talking about.

It's now very difficult, if not impossible to connect with One Nation On
Line's website so one can signup for an account.  It also appears that
something significant may be happening behind the scenes with another ISP
right now.

Their coverage of the US with local connection numbers isn't very good
yet.  I signed up long ago for notification of when they will install at
least one local connection number for the fastest growing and one of the
largest cities in the state of Michigan.  To this day, I've heard nothing
at all from them.

If you are able to find a way to at least signup for an account with One
Nation On Line, please let us know.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:18:50 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> What do you use for programming? I bought
> Borland C++ 2.0 from a second hand
> software shop on the internet and it seems to
> work well enough. I actually used my LX to get
> the hang of (basic) C++ programming. One way
> of filling the quiet moments at work!

I use both C 2.0 and Tasm for the most part.  I'm not an oop
programmer and using BC++ 2 (which I have) has always seemed like
overkill.  I have a single speed 200lx and BC++ 2 is quite a lot
slower than TC 2.  Also much larger.

I've been experimenting with TC++ 1.0 a little. It's a bit faster
than BC++ 2 and I can use // comments and a few other C++ things,
which I like.  But it's still slower than TC 2 and doesn't work
quite as smoothly with all the stuff I've built up over the years
with TC 2.

One of the things I've always enjoyed about programming on the LX is
that I didn't have to be professional and worry about such things as
portability, readibility by the next programmer, or just being
generally well behaved.  I can cheat all I want and let my
rebellious streak run rampant.  That makes it a little harder to
switch compilers.

But, in fact, I had all those good habits drummed into me enough
over the years that I haven't misbehaved as much as I wanted to.  I
didn't always know how.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:28:12 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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>> I did a program with bezier curves to
>> try to understand how that works.  I
>> finally understood the code and how to
>> get what I want from it but I never did
>> really understand the math.
>
> Well, in one respect, if you understand the
> code and how to get what you want,
> you _do_ understand the underlying math.

Not really.  I have no idea why the math does what it does.  Why the
calculations produce the result they do.  I just know how to get
what I want from it.  Kind of like people who drive a car without
knowing how it works.

I took some sample code and modified it to work in the context I
wanted it to work in, and to let me control it the way I wanted to
control it.  I learned by trial and error how to change values to
get what I want from it, although there are probably a lot of
possibilities that I don't know to look for.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:30:32 EDT
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In a message dated 11-10-2000 7:01:30 PM CST, fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
writes:

<< > 1. How long will the data on the card last between charges outside the
 > palmtop?

 Well, my sram card lasted about a year with its coin cell.  So if the
 internal battery is similar to the one in the HP it probably would last
 between 8 and 12 months once fully charged.  Although, I would guess
 that they have a limited life recharge-wise???
  >>

        Hi, all,
                    This is curious. I have 4 HP-LXs; a 95, a 100, and two
200s. I have replaced the back-up battery only on one, and only when it had
laid dormant in a drawer for a couple of years. The batter monitors on the
other three always read that the battery is fine, so I have never replaced
them. I do keep a couple of spares nearby just in case. I have never had to
use them though. All of them I have had for years and years. What is the
deal?
                     Same with SRAM's - three cards; a 1 meg and two 2 meg
cards. Never opened. Battery monitor reads fine. One of them is ten years old
or more. I've always thought that this was uncanny.
                     I know that the buttons should be replaced every twelve
months, but I always back up to a computer or floppy disk, so I thought I
would see exactly how long the batteries would last. They just keep going and
going.

Phil N.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:34:59 -0500
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Does anyone know where I can find detailed instructions for networking my
hp200lx to my ethernet lan?

Scott

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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:39:41 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Date:    Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:20:41 -0500
> From:    Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
> Subject: 1.5 Rechargeable SRAM cards

This doesn't answer your question exactly but it might give you some
insight.

I have a couple of spare 200lx's and sometimes I forget to replace
the batteries and they'll be dead.  But when I do put new AA's in
them, they usually give me backup battery low messages.  I've found
that if I ignore that and just let the thing sit for a day or two
the lithium backup battery will be fully charged.  I've never
noticed a reliablitity problem with them after this.  I don't
usually lose data on C: when this happens.

This doesn't work every time but it works most of the time.  I'm not
sure if it works best if I don't let it get too dead, or if I do.
Or if that's even a factor.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:20:42 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Ok...time to drop the subject entirely...I am getting very nervous about
personal information being given out over net.  I'm not interested in any
map program enough to give out any further details.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:08:11 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Subject:      Re: HP LX -vs- Palm (was Re: rocket e-book)
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I've got the Newton Keyboard and the driver.  I too found it
unreliable.  Occassionally it would lock up and leave the HP200
endlessly beeping loudly.  Very embarrassing in a university
library!!!  Is there an updated driver anywhere?
TIA
Tony Kan.

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From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
Roleigh Martin
Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2000 09:07
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: HP LX -vs- Palm (was Re: rocket e-book)


I have both the HP 200 and Palm computer (IBM Thinkpad C3
identical to a Palm V)
but like the Palm V to take around because there is a very compact
(foldable)
full size keyboard for it, by Palm for $99 that is the size of a
deck of cards
for the seeing-impaired when folded.  Both the keyboard and the
Palm computer
fit in a leather belt case.

I had bought an external keyboard for the HP200 but it only seemed
to work about
10 percent of time--very flaky and undependable.  The external
keyboard for the
Palm always works.

One question, does anyone know of a dependable external keyboard
(or driver software)
for the HP200?  My son would like to use my HP200 if I can get a
dependable external
keyboard for it.

Thanks!

Roleigh Martin

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:59:28 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: One Nation On Line

Hi Steve Carder and All,

>I received you message from the HPLX list on my 200LX using WWW/LX with
One
>Nation Online as my ISP.  I never see any banners on my palmtop <g>.  I
set up
>an account with 1NOL using my desktop browser.  Then I set up WWW/LX
using the
>recommendations from a web site posted on this list.
>
>http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/dosinet.htm

It appears that my suspicions have been confirmed.  I finally got through
when pointing my browser to www.1nol.com, but was automatically
redirected to Free At Last's website.  It sure looks like Free At Last
has taken over One Nation On Line's business.

BTW, Free At Last is owned IDT, who has a terrible customer service
history.

Steve, do you have any inside info on this event or about Free At Last?

If Free At Last has also purchased One Nation On Line's access numbers
and servers, as well, they may be temporarily using two different login
procedures right now, depending upon which access numbers users are using
(1nol's old lines or Free At Last lines).

Do the instructions at the above URL also apply exactly to a Free At Last
account?

Any specific info you may have about this would be greatly appreciated,
Steve.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:16:27 +0800
Reply-To:     LEONG FOO TEK <leongft@yeos.com.my>
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Does anyone on the list uses maxdos to swap out System Manager within Software
Carousel? I tried but each time after System Manager was restored, pressing
CTRL+2, CTRL+3 or CTRL+. does not bring me to another virtual palmtop session
until I quit System Manger or shell to DOS. Any ideas or solutions?

Thanks
Leong

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:22:56 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Thomas,

> Hi Stan!
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:51:06 -0400, Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> wrote:
>
>  > > Dial=ATDT8430480
>  >
>  > Incorrect.  You don't put the ATDT in the Dial= string in
>  > WWW.CFG.  It should be only the phone number like this:
>  >
>  > Dial=8430480
>
> I too have the dial prefix in the Dial=ATDT12345 variable. Where else
> would I put "ATDT" if not into the dial string?

Into the global section of www.cfg. Wherelse did you think?

İGlobal¨
Command=w:\HV.EXE
Cache=C:\tmp\WWW.CAC
....
DialAT=ATDT



Kind regards

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hi Thomas,

On 11 Oct 2000, at 17:11, Thomas Rundel wrote:

>  > > Dial=ATDT8430480
>  >
>  > Incorrect.  You don't put the ATDT in the Dial= string in
>  > WWW.CFG.  It should be only the phone number like this:
>  >
>  > Dial=8430480
>
> I too have the dial prefix in the Dial=ATDT12345 variable. Where else
> would I put "ATDT" if not into the dial string?
>

If you put the line
DialAT=ATDT
into the İGlobal¨ section of your www.cfg file, you can write only the
number into the dial string and the modem command is filled in by www.

servus,
Werner




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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:58:21 -0400
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              Luca Zanetti <LUCA.ZANETTI@NTT.IT>
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From:         Luca Zanetti <LUCA.ZANETTI@NTT.IT>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX and Barcode Wand Scanner
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Hi Mike,
two year ago, I have purchased 1 a bar code pen with software (and are
optional other Laser Pens available)  for $199.95 from
http://www.mrpalmtop.com/
Luca.

At 07:37 AM 10/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if it is possible to use a wand barcode scanner with the
HP 200LX and how to do it if possible ?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>ferris1@superlink.net
>
>
>Attachment Converted: "d:\eudora\attach\HP200LXa.htm"
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Tom Salwasser wrote:

> If not I'll have to spend some time with my old soldering iron.

you just have to make 3 connections: RX,TX,Ground


DC20
/\
||--------------
--              |
||-----------   |
--           |  |
||-----     _|_ |
--     |   | | ||
||     O  O  O  O  O
||                    (HP cable end viewed from front)
||     O  O  O  O  O


Pictures downloaded to the HP as .IMG are displayed by LXPIC.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:41:27 +0200
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              Giampi <giampi1@GALACTICA.IT>
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I have a HP200LX 5M 2speed.
When I boot, I see the message: Backup battery low
I changed three new battery 2032, an d I think it's a damage...
:-(((

Suggestions?

Grazie!
giampi

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:52:38 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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>>Does anyone know where I can find detailed instructions for networking my
hp200lx to my ethernet lan?

Scott<<

There are a couple of articles in the Palmtop Paper Online at
www.palmtoppaper.com ?

.ed.İPTP¨

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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> >>Does anyone know where I can find detailed instructions for networking my
> hp200lx to my ethernet lan?
>
> There are a couple of articles in the Palmtop Paper Online at
> www.palmtoppaper.com ?


I think it was the Jan/Feb 1997 issue.  Also, the following URLs may
be helpful:

  http://www.hplx.net/faq.networking.html
  http://lxmnc.hplx.net/

Good luck!

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:47:41 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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One clarification.  The 1.5 refers to MB.  They have 1.5Mb of storage. (The
question was asked privately and I realize I wasn't clear).

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:52:45 +0800
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              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
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Well Guys and Gal(s)

The time has come to move on (although I could be
back).

Thanks to everyone for their support both directly and
indirectly via the list discussion.

Look forward to owning a new HP one day when
they are as functional as the 200LX, until then I'll
plod along with the new Psion 5mx.

Keep up the good work

Regards to all.........Liam

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Date:         Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:53:05 -0600
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              "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
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Perhaps someone can write a program to use the :Cue Cat bar code readers
that Radio Shack is giving away now. There is a lot of info on the Web about
how they work, as well as decoder programs in several languages. In their
standard form, they hook up to a PC's keyport. They draw 5V from the port,
so it might be necessary to supply external power. Anyway, someone might
want to give it a shot, and they are free.

Before you use one for its intended purpose, though, see the privacy issue
warnings at http://privacyfoundation.org/advisories/advCueCat1.html


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Check the batteries independently with a tester.

Also, take a thin knife blade and scrape the contacts inside the battery
compartment?

- Longden





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I have a HP200LX 5M 2speed.
When I boot, I see the message: Backup battery low
I changed three new battery 2032, an d I think it's a damage...
:-(((

Suggestions?

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<<
> Well, in one respect, if you understand the
> code and how to get what you want,
> you _do_ understand the underlying math.

Not really.  I have no idea why the math does what it does.  Why the
calculations produce the result they do.  I just know how to get
what I want from it.  Kind of like people who drive a car without
knowing how it works.

I took some sample code and modified it to work in the context I
wanted it to work in, and to let me control it the way I wanted to
control it.  I learned by trial and error how to change values to
get what I want from it, although there are probably a lot of
possibilities that I don't know to look for.
>>

I agree. Some math algorithms are quite dense and while a programmer who assumes
maintenance duties for this kind of code can tweak it for varied effects,
he/she's usually a long ways from being able to write comparable new code from
scratch, which is the domain of someone who understands the underlying concepts.

"Stealing" code is the hallmark of any resourceful programmer, but some borrow
code to save time while others borrow because they can't do it from scratch.
Either way, it's fun as long as it works.

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> > However, you can use the filter option (F4) to choose which 250
> > files are shown on its screen.  So all files in a subdirectory
> > can be accessed

> Have you tried this? I don't know if the Filer limit of 250
> files has to do with how many file names it can get from the
> directory and work with (such as sort and Filter) or if it can
> always get all file names from the directory but only display
> 250 on the screen list.

Well I tried in in the CPack filer.  And in a pictures
subdirectory I got the 256 files limit (mostly .JPG).
I then filtered to only .GIF files and got all 158 GIF's.
Tried the 200LX filer and don't have 250 files in any sub-
directory, and can't connect to the desktop.  So, assuming
the 200LX filer is similar to the CPack filer, with the
proper filter you can access any file in the subdirectory.


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Thanks for all the information on this. I ahev my strac connecvity kit
coming soon and look forward to finding a neat way to clip the phone
directly to my LX.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stanley Dobrowski İmailto:stanleyd@CARROLL.COM¨
>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:03 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Eureka! (StarTAC success)
>
>
>Congratulations, Ted.  When you get everything working
>perfectly, send the HPLX-L list a _M_essage from an _U_nusual
>_P_lace.  We call these MUP's.  This is a message composed and
>sent with the palmtop from an interesting place.  Usually a
>place that cannot have Email sent from it without the
>ultraportable capabilities of the 200LX.
>
>I sent a MUP to the Palmtop forum on CompuServe from the middle
>of an apple orchard while out family was apple picking.
>
>
>Stan
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When I pulled my 200LX from my briefcase this morning, I discovered that
the phone list application could not access a pdb file on my ThinFax 1414
LXM card.

I then noticed that about 1.5-2.0 mm of the card protruded from the LX,
meaning it wasn't seated. I turned the LX off, reseated the card, and
rebooted. Still no joy, so I dropped out to DOS and tried to access the
card. I could get an f:\> prompt, but any attempt to access the drive (by
entering dir, for example) yielded a divide overflow error message.

I ran install.exe from drive a:, then rebooted, but the result was the
same. I then inserted the card in my spare LX, ran install.exe, rebooted
and got the same behavior. I've also tried hard resets on both machines. I
have not tried to reformat the card, but I'm beginning to think that's what
I have to do. Any suggestions, folks? I'd rather not lose the data on the
card, since my backup data are not completely up to date.

TIA,
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Subject:      Updated version of F-PROT

From Simtel's newsletter.


> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:06:30 -0400 (EDT)
> From: frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason)
> To: MS-News@Simtel.Net
> Cc: frisk@complex.is
> Subject: fp-308.zip - F-PROT v3.08: Virus detector and remover
> Keywords: simtel,msdos
> Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
> Message-Id: <20000925200630.w8sdz@Simtel.Net>
>
> I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
>
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/virus/fp-308.zip
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/virus/fp-308.zip 1231011 bytes
>
> fp-308.zip      F-PROT v3.08: Virus detector and remover
>
> This version finds, identifies and (usually) removes over 50,100
> viruses and Trojans.
>
> This package only includes the DOS version of F-PROT.  The program
> F-STOPW is now only included with the windows version and the F-MACROW
> program is distributed separately.
>
> Fridrik Skulason
> frisk@complex.is

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Isn't the card in as drive a:?  Why are you accessing drive f?

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I seem to remember the Thinfax memory being flash-file system (FSS) based rather
than ATA, so it's possible that the driver software needed to recognize the card
memory maps to a specific drive letter other than A.  Unlike the ATA cards most
of us use now, FSS based memory cards aren't "plug and play".

- Longden





Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET> on 10/12/2000 11:34:13 AM

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Isn't the card in as drive a:?  Why are you accessing drive f?

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Hmm.... didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that. I wonder why it worked
the past two years? ;-) Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Kidding aside, if my tenuous grasp of how things work is correct, it does
install a small portion of itself as a:, but a device driver installs the
balance as f: Again, I can get and f: prompt, but a divide overflow error
when I try to do anything with it.

Larry Mittell

At 11:34 AM 10/12/00, you wrote:
>Isn't the card in as drive a:?  Why are you accessing drive f?

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When you replace the battery, the + should face down.  We find putting in
the battery the wrong way the most common reason why people have trouble.

<<From: Giampi İmailto:giampi1@GALACTICA.IT¨

I have a HP200LX 5M 2speed.
When I boot, I see the message: Backup battery low
I changed three new battery 2032, an d I think it's a damage...
:-(((  >>

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On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Theodore Heise wrote:

> > fp-308.zip      F-PROT v3.08: Virus detector and remover
> >
> > This version finds, identifies and (usually) removes over 50,100
> > viruses and Trojans.


I apologize to the list.  After sending this I checked at the
company's website and learned the program requires a 386.  Sorry.

Ted

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Great information, Stan - I didn't know about the DialAT=3D command
yet, but this is exactly what I was looking for all the time.
Thanks!

Tom
www.rundel.net/palmtop


On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:23:24 -0400 (EDT), Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@carr=
oll.com> wrote:

 > Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM> wrote:
 >
 > > I too have the dial prefix in the Dial=3DATDT12345 variable. Where =
else
 > > would I put "ATDT" if not into the dial string?
 >
 > Good question, Tom.  I looked further, and I realized I was
 > wrong in saying having ATDT in the Dial=3D was incorrect.  I have
 > the following also in my WWW.CFG:
 >
 > İGlobal¨
 > DialAT=3DATdt
 >
 > Which sets the dial prefix on a global basis so that I don't
 > need it in each Dial=3D line.  The other advantage of this is
 > that that now the dial command is in a variable and can be
 > changed with a setting in the Shift-F5 feature of Post/LX.
 >
 > Therefore, most people need: Dial=3DAT DT 123-4567
 >
 > I am sorry if this caused any confusion.
 >
 > Stan

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Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:03:20 -0500 (EST)

Liam:

Sorry to see you go, I enjoyed the correspondence (and still use the
cooler).

Cheers...AJK

09h10m35s ago ...
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:

> Well Guys and Gal(s)
>
> The time has come to move on (although I could be
> back).
>
> Thanks to everyone for their support both directly and
> indirectly via the list discussion.
>
> Look forward to owning a new HP one day when
> they are as functional as the 200LX, until then I'll
> plod along with the new Psion 5mx.
>
> Keep up the good work
>
> Regards to all.........Liam
>
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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> Well, my sram card lasted about a year with its coin cell.  So if the
> internal battery is similar to the one in the HP it probably would last
> between 8 and 12 months once fully charged

Probably not that long, Fred.  The button battery in the
palmtop and the SRAM card is either Lithium or Alkaline.  In
either case, it would hold a lot more power than any
rechargeable battery - just like with AA batteries.  I probably
would not trust the rechargeable battery in the SRAM card for
more than 3-4 months.


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Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:

> in a pictures
> subdirectory I got the 256 files limit (mostly .JPG).
> I then filtered to only .GIF files and got all 158 GIF's

That is not a perfect test.  If by coincidence, the 158 GIF
files were all within the first 250 files in the directory,
then this would always work.  It would be interesting to try to
filter to a file that you knew was > 250th in the directory
list.

You could find such a file by doing a DIR without any sorting
specified and then count down.

BTW, I would expect the Filer in CPACK to have the same
limition as the palmtop's Filer.  They are both from the same
program code.  HP did not enhance any of the applications in
CPACK.

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I use Microsoft Quick C 2.5 on the palmtop for programming.  I
don't bother much with the editor because I prefer PE, so I use
the command line compiler/linker and PalMake (PM).

With SC, I have PE editing the source in one session, PalMake
compiling the program in another session and I am testing the
executable in a third session.  Of course all of this is not
going on at the same time, but switching sessions in SC is
easier than typing in the three different commands to do the
editing, compiling and running of the program during testing.


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Phil Naunton wrote:
>                     This is curious. I have 4 HP-LXs; a 95, a 100, and two
> 200s. I have replaced the back-up battery only on one, and only when it had
> laid dormant in a drawer for a couple of years. The batter monitors on the
> other three always read that the battery is fine, so I have never replaced
> them. I do keep a couple of spares nearby just in case. I have never had to
> use them though. All of them I have had for years and years. What is the
> deal?

Backup batteries are cheap insurance; I replace them every 6 months.
Maybe even sooner if I feel the LX has really been using them due to
dead main batteries that I couldn't replace soon enough.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> >                     This is curious. I have 4 HP-LXs; a 95, a 100, and
two
> > 200s. I have replaced the back-up battery only on one, and only when it
had
> > laid dormant in a drawer for a couple of years. The batter monitors on
the

The manual suggests replacing the backup battery every year even if there is
no "low battery" message. (Pg B-1). Your can look at it as renewing an
insurance policy.

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Have used the PC Study Bible for DOS very little. As I recall, the files
are probably a tad smaller than Online Bible and the "add ons" are about
the same as a basic OLB -- Strongs numbers, definitions, Matthew Henry,
and a couple of others. Online Bible has a much more flexible/versitile
search, even beats the Windows version PC Study Bible as far as I'm
concerned.

Bob

Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
>
> Colin Thompson wrote on 10/5/00 2:32 am:
>
> >As many on
> >this list know, one of the
> >primary functions of my
> >200LX is to run the PC Study
> >Bible suite.
>
> Maybe this has been asked before, but how does that program compare to the Online Bible, which has similar features, but it's free?
>
> >Outside
> >of general geekness, the
> >reason for acquiring a
> >replacement 100LX and 20
> >meg flash card was to run
> >the PC Study Bible suite.
>
> Same here, except my choices were the Online Bible plus InfoSelect
>
> >While the
> >TRG Pro has replaced my
> >beloved 200LX in many
> >areas, the 200LX is still "THE
> >PORTABLE BIBLE REFERENCE
> >MACHINE".
>
> I also prefer my Hplx to my TrgPro, but I find that frequent use of my Hplx, particularly in dim light, it's hard on my eyes, so I tend to do general text reading on my TrgPro.
>
> >For the record, I do
> >pay attention to, and
> >observe the traditional
> >Israelite Holy Days and
> >Feasts.
>
> Just curious, would you happen to be a member of the Worldwide Church of God (of the late Amstrong)?
>
> >The bottom line is the
> >primary function of my
> >200LX today is to run Bible
> >software.  I am a self
> >confessed computer junkie,
> >but my 200LX's primary
> >function is to support my
> >Christian religious belief.
>
> Personally, I used to think computers were fancy toys, until I discovered you could do really fast Bible research on one.
>
> As far as the Natalie situation, I kind of took offence, particularly since the hplx community, both in comp.sys.palmtops, where it used to dominate, and here, has been the most interesting, gregarious, tolerant, polite, and pleasant community I ever found in all my years on the net (which for me is about twelve years).   But I felt it not worth pursuing.
>
> Domingo
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If my response of a few minutes ago has raised some eyebrows like "where
has this guy been, burying his head in the sand?"

I'm catching up on several hundred emails and -- duh -- 10 more replies
under a slightly diffrent subject. Yup, I cannot seem to read more than
one line at a time. Walking and talking at the same time... I'm working
on it!

Bob

Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
>
> Colin Thompson wrote on 10/5/00 2:32 am:
>
> >As many on
> >this list know, one of the
> >primary functions of my
> >200LX is to run the PC Study
> >Bible suite.
>
> Maybe this has been asked before, but how does that program compare to the Online Bible, which has similar features, but it's free?
>
> >Outside
> >of general geekness, the
> >reason for acquiring a
> >replacement 100LX and 20
> >meg flash card was to run
> >the PC Study Bible suite.
>
> Same here, except my choices were the Online Bible plus InfoSelect
>
> >While the
> >TRG Pro has replaced my
> >beloved 200LX in many
> >areas, the 200LX is still "THE
> >PORTABLE BIBLE REFERENCE
> >MACHINE".
>
> I also prefer my Hplx to my TrgPro, but I find that frequent use of my Hplx, particularly in dim light, it's hard on my eyes, so I tend to do general text reading on my TrgPro.
>
> >For the record, I do
> >pay attention to, and
> >observe the traditional
> >Israelite Holy Days and
> >Feasts.
>
> Just curious, would you happen to be a member of the Worldwide Church of God (of the late Amstrong)?
>
> >The bottom line is the
> >primary function of my
> >200LX today is to run Bible
> >software.  I am a self
> >confessed computer junkie,
> >but my 200LX's primary
> >function is to support my
> >Christian religious belief.
>
> Personally, I used to think computers were fancy toys, until I discovered you could do really fast Bible research on one.
>
> As far as the Natalie situation, I kind of took offence, particularly since the hplx community, both in comp.sys.palmtops, where it used to dominate, and here, has been the most interesting, gregarious, tolerant, polite, and pleasant community I ever found in all my years on the net (which for me is about twelve years).   But I felt it not worth pursuing.
>
> Domingo
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PC Study Bible's Hebrew and Greek lexicons came from Online Bible.

Bob

Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
>
> What royalties?   Except for the modern versions, the Online Bible provides
> many of the same tools free, which suggests they pay no royalties.   This
> includes the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, the Naves, and the Greek and
> Hebrew tools.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin Thompson" <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
> > I already tried.  The reason why BibleSoft won't do the copyrighted
> freeware
> > is they have to pay a royalty to the copyright holders for all of the
> books
> > except for the KJV.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> > Domingo Diaz-V
> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:19 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >
> >
> > Maybe you could ask them to release it as copyrighted freeware, either on
> > their site, or authorize one of us to put it up for free on the net.   I
> for
> > one would be interested to check it out.
> >
> > Domingo
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "john kavanagh" <johnkavanagh@YAHOO.COM>
> > To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >
> >
> > > Where do you find PC Study Bible for Dos? The
> > > manufacturer says they no longer carry the Dos
> > > version.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:25:14 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Even if you don't use a Nokia 8210 with your palmtop at the
moment, just remember, that it only works at 38400 baud through
IrDA. I get many questions concerning PDU-SMS not working, and
it was always a wrong baud rate.

The Nokia 8210 is a nice little mobile, coming down in price
dramatically. Whithin the next months, we will see a huge second
hand market for this phone for about $100.

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Stefan Peichl writes:
> Even if you don't use a Nokia 8210 with your palmtop at the
> moment, just remember, that it only works at 38400 baud through
> IrDA. I get many questions concerning PDU-SMS not working, and
> it was always a wrong baud rate.

Along the same lines, I'll report that I've gotten the LXTCP suite to
work with my Motorola ST7868W, but I had to configure the connection
as 19200.  I couldn't get it to go with 38400.

Ted

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> "Stealing" code is the hallmark of any resourceful
>  programmer, but some borrow code to save time
> while others borrow because they can't do it from
> scratch. Either way, it's fun as long as it works.

I think of that in somewhat the same light as using a library
function.  Printf() for example.  We build on the work others have
done in every field.

The difference in the case of stealing code is that we usually have
to add something of our own to it.  It's not usually a black box.

Printf() isn't, either.  I have the source for a few of my
compiler's libraries and I've looked over printf() and some other
functions.  But I don't remember the inner details and it'll be a
little different on the next compiler so it's at least a dark grey
box.

I did a considerable re-working of the bezier code.  There's not a
lot left of the original.  There is some so I can't really say it's
my code.  But it's not a black box, either.

Maybe it's valid to say that I understand the bezier algorithm when
stated in c but not when stated mathematically.

I wouldn't let anyone but me get away with that one.  :)

Barry

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> I use Microsoft Quick C 2.5 on the palmtop for programming.  I
> don't bother much with the editor because I prefer PE, so I use
> the command line compiler/linker and PalMake (PM).
>
> With SC, I have PE editing the source in one session, PalMake
> compiling the program in another session and I am testing the
> executable in a third session.  Of course all of this is not
> going on at the same time, but switching sessions in SC is
> easier than typing in the three different commands to do the
> editing, compiling and running of the program during testing.

I've done something like that when I used to use Coherent with
virtual consoles.  It's a nice way to work.

I do something like the same thing with qedit (tse jr.)  I edit, hit
Alt S (custom key, I think) to save, F10 to get a shell and then
type mk to call make with my particular command line.  Then I run
the program.  "Exit" brings me back to my place in qedit.

Since I have Doskey in memory I usually only have to do that once
and for the rest of the session, or at least till the first crash,
it's just a couple of hits on the up arrow key.

I used to use qedit macros to compile and test, making them one key
each, but that was on my desktop and I never got around to setting
that up on my palmtop.  By the way, I use an 18 line window in qedit
to make it fit the readable screen.  This is done automatically by a
startup macro.  It works very well.

I also have tse but I've been using qedit so long I can't find a
real reason to learn tse.

Barry

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>                     This is curious. I have 4 HP-LXs; a 95, a 100,
and two
> 200s. I have replaced the back-up battery only on one, and only
when it had
> laid dormant in a drawer for a couple of years. The batter
monitors on the
> other three always read that the battery is fine, so I have never
replaced
> them. I do keep a couple of spares nearby just in case. I have
never had to
> use them though. All of them I have had for years and years. What
is the
> deal?

I've had a problem with battery operated devices over the years when
I've let them go till the battery is very, very old.  So far this
has never been a problem with the 200lx but it did ruin my Tandy
Zoomer.  I've ruined several watches and several calculators.

I'll go 2 or 3 years on a watch battery and finally decide it should
have been replaced long ago and when I put in new batteries, the
watch doesn't work.  This has eventually happened to every battery
operated watch I've owned.  Fortunately I use Timex so it doesn't
cost that much to replace them.

This might not be a problem with 200lx's and their cards and backup
batteries.  I've never let one go that long.  I wouldn't take the
chance.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:40:30 +0200
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Hi friends,

I developed a new technique to fix a broken latch (this one that holds
the palmtop closed).

Just put a little bit of transparent silicone into the spcae between
latch and screen case. Do not fill the whole space with silicone, just
about 1cm of the whole width. Works perfectly for me!

In order to place the silicone as good as possible where it has to be,
it is better to take apart the palmtop screen for this fix. But it's
also possible to leave the screen together. Just be sure you don't fill
in too much silocone (approximately the size of one of the palmtop's
keys - not the space key, of course ;-) ).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:55:29 +0800
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YES!

I have the exact same problem! I know several people also using SC &
MaxDOS without this problem. So I have figured out that it must be
because of some TSR program. If you want, please send me your
autoexec.bat & config.sys file and I will check what we have in common
and then remove the TSR and see if it helps...

Regards,

Jorgen

> Does anyone on the list uses maxdos to swap out System Manager within =
Software
> Carousel? I tried but each time after System Manager was restored, =
pressing
> CTRL+2, CTRL+3 or CTRL+. does not bring me to another virtual palmtop =
session
> until I quit System Manger or shell to DOS. Any ideas or solutions?
>
> Thanks
> Leong
>

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Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> I use Microsoft Quick C 2.5 on the palmtop for programming.  I
> don't bother much with the editor because I prefer PE, so I use
> the command line compiler/linker and PalMake (PM).
>

I use the Turbo C++ v1.0 IDE for programming on the palmtop. And ALL my
palmtop software I program on the palmtop. When I am asked at work what is my
preferred porgramming environment _ Unix, MSVC etc. I always say
"Lying in a hammock in the park".


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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:54:54 +0200
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Subject:      Re: ISP Connection Problems when LX is on 12V power supply
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hello Stanley, Helmuth and the list,

tonight I did some tests with my EXP Pcmcia Modem and
several different power supplies.
I used the small switcher PS -> no connection
2nd,  the big ham radio PS  30 A -> no connection
3rd, a 12V lead battery -> connection at full speed
a homemade 12V linear PS -> connection at full speed

So the power supply is guilty. Good to know that it is not the HP:-)

But there has aroused another problem:
Usually I used post/lx to fetch my mail and then let the modem
hang up after the connection. This time I unchecked this hangup
box in setup and wanted to repeat the connection. It was
impossible. No connection, although the modem did not hang
up.
This makes it also impossible for me to use the dial support of
Post/lx  and then switch to HV in the external menu. WWW
version is 2.2
All this was in plain DOS and also in a maxdos session in
Systemmanager.

Is this "normal" ?

Werner





on 11 Oct 2000, at  16:21, Stanley Dobrowski wrote about
"Re: ISP Connection Problems when LX is on 12V pow":

> "Werner Furlan"<furlan@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > My modem is a EXP Pcmcia Modem inside the HPLX.
> > I checked the phone line, but nothing to hear like a hum.
> >
> > I tried with my ham radio power supply, 30 A, the same problem
>
> I think you may be right that there is something that has gone
> wrong in either the PCMCIA modem or, more likely, the palmtop's
> power supply circuits.  I would try a different modem just to see if
> it makes any difference.
>
> If it really is the palmtop, then you would need another
> motherboard.  :-(
>
>
> Stan
>



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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:42:14 -0400
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Greetings fellow HPLX'ers!

I'm trying to convert the note database on my HP200LX to csv (comma separated
value) format, using the ancient, hoary and venerable HP connectivity pack.
I've done this years ago, but the connectivity pack isn't cooperating this time.
It's a pretty old DOS program now running on Win98, but it should still work.

Anyway, the problem is when I use the translate tool it complains it can't
open the input DB. The file is there and it is a valid notes database, since
I can view it through the notetaker app in the connectivity pack. The connectivity
pack translator knows the file is there at some level, since you pick the file via the
usual HPLX browse interface.  I've made sure the path to the file is short and
there are no spaces in the directory and files names (since DOS sometimes has
problems with that).  Anyone else encountered this problem or know what the
solution might be?

Thanks,
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Tech
I own a HP desk jet 820cxi printer and cannot print from my 200LX.
What do I hv to do use the printer/200LX combination?
Kurt

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I am not sure whether this topic has been talked about:
Is there a chance to read WAP-Sites with the HP200LX?
It is nice to edit a WAP card with PE and to load it
to the internet with ftp. But I don't know a way to
see whether the WAP-card works or not - if one has
no WAP mobile.
Uli

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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:01:11 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Mike,

thank you for implementing Zoom factor 0. I use your frontend to
mapblast with great pleasure and it is very helpful to me on travel,
especially here in Europe.

I appreciate your work with respect.

The real good thing is, if somebody doesn't feel comfortable with the
accuracy of mapblast, he might use another provider or last not least
might find a suitable map to look in.

For me it is a further enhancement of use of the hp200lx.

Thank you very much again.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:43:48 -0400
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Yes but I have had many files that would open with the 200LX and the
connectivity pack but still had errors in them.  The translator may be more
sensitive.

Have you run DBCHECK against the file?

If you don't have it yet, you can get it at
http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/dbcheck.zip.

In case you find errors in there, you may need Garlic
(http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/garlic.zip) to fix it first.

Alan

>From: Bill Schell İmailto:bill@BELL-LABS.COM¨
>Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 11:42 AM
>...
>Anyway, the problem is when I use the translate tool it complains it can't
>open the input DB. The file is there and it is a valid notes database,
since
>I can view it through the notetaker app in the connectivity pack. The
connectivity
>pack translator knows the file is there at some level, since you pick the
file via the
>usual HPLX browse interface.

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Hi Alan.

Thanks! OK, I ran DBCHECK.  It checked out OK.  I'm thinking its something
more perverse like connectivity pack having problems under win98.  Cpack
is saying "can't open DB" like it can't even find the file...

Thanks,
    Bill

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From: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
Subject: RE: conversion of HPLX note (ndb) format to csv


> Yes but I have had many files that would open with the 200LX and the
> connectivity pack but still had errors in them.  The translator may be more
> sensitive.
>
> Have you run DBCHECK against the file?
>

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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:53:06 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> Have used the PC Study Bible for DOS very little. As I recall, the files
> are probably a tad smaller than Online Bible and the "add ons" are about
> the same as a basic OLB -- Strongs numbers, definitions, Matthew Henry,
> and a couple of others. Online Bible has a much more flexible/versitile
> search, even beats the Windows version PC Study Bible as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
> Bob

Hi Bob.    What you say is interesting.    I recall that when there were few
Windows
Bible programs, the "in" program seemed to be PC Study Bible for DOS, with
QuickVerse coming in at a close second with the people I knew, and based on
comments on the net.    Now with the gargantuan Windows program out
nowadays,
it's hard to tell.    But since I am not an expert on theology or Biblical
languages, I have
felt no need for anything else outside the Online Bible (except I did long
for output
in the style of a paper concordance, such as I hear QuickVerse can do).

Maybe someone can talk the company that makes QuickVerse into releasing the
DOS
versions for free.  :-)

(I say versions, because I understand the last DOS version is significantly
slower than the previous one.)

Domingo

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Do you mean the text (which is public domain AFAIK, or the Online Bible
indexed databases?

I am surprised about that, considering that the PC Study Bible, when it came
out, could
set you back about $400, with all the tools and versions included.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> PC Study Bible's Hebrew and Greek lexicons came from Online Bible.
>
> Bob
>
> Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
> >
> > What royalties?   Except for the modern versions, the Online Bible
provides
> > many of the same tools free, which suggests they pay no royalties.
This
> > includes the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, the Naves, and the Greek
and
> > Hebrew tools.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Colin Thompson" <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
> > To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >
> > > I already tried.  The reason why BibleSoft won't do the copyrighted
> > freeware
> > > is they have to pay a royalty to the copyright holders for all of the
> > books
> > > except for the KJV.
> > >
> > > Colin

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I believe PC Study Bible was around before Online Bible.  BibleSoft pays a
license fee for every copy of every text they use.  The KJV and ASV are an
exception because they are in public domain.

Colin


Domingo Diaz-V

Subject: Re: Bible programs


Do you mean the text (which is public domain AFAIK, or the Online Bible
indexed databases?

I am surprised about that, considering that the PC Study Bible, when it came
out, could
set you back about $400, with all the tools and versions included.

Domingo

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From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> PC Study Bible's Hebrew and Greek lexicons came from Online Bible.
>

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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:40:08 +1000
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Yves Leurquin" <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:29 AM
>Subject: JAM Volume on Times2 Tech 32MB Drive
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been using JAM for years to compress my flash card and my 5MB C:
>> drive. For some reason I am not able to mount a JAM drive installed of the
>> new 32MB internal memory extension provided by Times2 Tech.  I get the
>> following message :
>>
>>         Invalid disk change reading drive G:
>>         Please insert volume IBMC

Hi Yves & list

Suggestions re troubleshooting this

1)  copy existing jam file, say one.jam from Flashcard to 32 MB partition
and see if you can manually mount it.

2)  Make a small, Maybe 500k jam disk on C: and see if you can copy/mount
that on the 32MB drive

This should give a good indication of any undocumented features in Jam

Hope this gives some ideas

Ciao

Russell

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Taking the liberty of editing the wiring post as it appears to have been
formatted, wrapped and ruint.

Beverly Howard

you just have to make 3 connections: RX,TX,Ground

 DC20
 /\
 ||--------------
 --              |
 ||-----------   |
 --           |  |
 ||-----      |  |
 --     |     |  |
 ||     O  O  O  O  O
 ||                    (HP cable end viewed from front)
 ||     O  O  O  O  O

Pictures downloaded to the HP as .IMG are displayed by LXPIC.

Stefan

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I looked at a lot of options and for the LX settled on a small serial
wedge with it's own battery pack and a wand.

There are some pcmcia options out there, but they are going to both load
a limited power source as well as remove the option to use programs or
update data on a CF card.

_If_ you are looking at an daily application use, the LX has other
issues such as holding it and fragility, so I would opt for a dedicated
barcode unit to either update wirelessly or store and dump.

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Thompson" <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> I believe PC Study Bible was around before Online Bible.

The first version of the Online Bible came out in 1988.  Is PC study
Bible older than that?   Either way, I reread the OLB documentation,
and it is full of permissions to use stuff, so I don't think they originated
much material.   But I understand that most Bible programs are compatible
with the OLB database, through the generosity of the author, Larry Pierce.

>  BibleSoft pays a
> license fee for every copy of every text they use.  The KJV and ASV are an
> exception because they are in public domain.

I was refering to the reference materials, paper versions of which I have,
and
most of it is more than 100 years old.   I am not sure about the Jay green
stuff.   He took the Thayer material (public domain), and indexed it with
the Strongs
numbers (public domain).   Is the resulting material copyrighted?  I guess
it
might be, but Online Bible has permission to distribute for free.  I guess
since PC Study Bible costs an arm and a leg Jay Green would be less
generous with his materials (his MKJV is available for free for the Palm,
with
another freeware Bible program).

> Colin
>
>
> Domingo Diaz-V
>
> Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
>
> Do you mean the text (which is public domain AFAIK, or the Online Bible
> indexed databases?
>
> I am surprised about that, considering that the PC Study Bible, when it
came
> out, could
> set you back about $400, with all the tools and versions included.
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
>
> > PC Study Bible's Hebrew and Greek lexicons came from Online Bible.
> >
>
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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Steve Novosad <Novosad@server030.fwb.saic.com> wrote:

> >That is not a perfect test.  If by coincidence, the 158 GIF
> >files were all within the first 250 files in the directory,
> >then this would always work.  It would be interesting to try to
> >filter to a file that you knew was > 250th in the directory
> >list
>
> There were only about 50 GIF's in the first 256 files

That is good news, Steve.  So, the 250 file limit is Filer is
just on how many it can display on the screen, not a limit on
the number of files in a directory that is can process.

Thanks for helping confirm this.


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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:40:56 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Jorgen,

since I installed the palmtop from scratch and allocated enough memory =
for
the SC swap files I have not experienced any problem. I keep away TSR's
from the autoexec.bat and prefer to load them as needed in my SC
sessions (I start each session with a batch file).

HP

> YES!
>
> I have the exact same problem! I know several people also using SC &
> MaxDOS without this problem. So I have figured out that it must be
> because of some TSR program. If you want, please send me your
> autoexec.bat & config.sys file and I will check what we have in common
> and then remove the TSR and see if it helps...
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
> > Does anyone on the list uses maxdos to swap out System Manager within =
Software
> > Carousel? I tried but each time after System Manager was restored, =
pressing
> > CTRL+2, CTRL+3 or CTRL+. does not bring me to another virtual palmtop =
session
> > until I quit System Manger or shell to DOS. Any ideas or solutions?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Leong
> >

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Hello!

Well, I want to make a lxbatch-menue for my lx-games, and my first
trials are exiting. But how to run a selected file from lxbatch?
1.) I Softwarecaroussel required?
2.) When yes, can I compile it from the source (of a bought disk);
    there seems to be no makefile.

                Klaus.
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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
>
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> But how to run a selected file from lxbatch?

Hello!

Excuse me, that was a stupid question. But I
got a problem with the LXBatch-MenuXY and OnErrorGoto:
I have to insert 2 dummy labels after the 0-escape, Why?

MenuXY 100 20 "a" "b" "c"
OnErrorGoto esc aa bb cc
:esc
..
:aa
..
:bb
..
:cc
..

When I press a, I got the err=3 and the jump to :cc
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>
> Mike,
>
> thank you for implementing Zoom factor 0. I use your frontend to
> mapblast with great pleasure and it is very helpful to me on travel,
> especially here in Europe.
>
> I appreciate your work with respect.

Same here. I gave the URL to my secretary and whenever she is
organizing a travel for me she makes a hardcopy of the place where I
have to go.

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> As far as the Natalie situation, I kind of took
> offence, particularly since the hplx community,
> both in comp.sys.palmtops, where it used to
> dominate, and here, has been the most interesting,
> gregarious, tolerant, polite, and pleasant community
> I ever found in all my years on the net (which for
> me is about twelve years).
>  But I felt it not worth pursuing.

Nathalie was just doing her job.  She did what fanatical iconoclasts
are supposed to do.  She attacked someone's beliefs.

Now it's your job as a fanatical Christian to be offended.  It all
works out very well.

As for interesting, gregarious, tolerant, polite and pleasant, I
think we still fit that for the most part.  Maybe these days you
could add "open" to that list of characteristics, too.

I'm just doing my job as a rabid peacemaker.  We all have our roles
to play.

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> thank you for implementing Zoom factor 0. I use your frontend to
> mapblast with great pleasure and it is very helpful to me on travel,
> especially here in Europe.
>
> I appreciate your work with respect.
>
> The real good thing is, if somebody doesn't feel comfortable with the
> accuracy of mapblast, he might use another provider or last not least
> might find a suitable map to look in.
>
> For me it is a further enhancement of use of the hp200lx.
>
> Thank you very much again.

You're welcome :-)

I've made a couple more changes. The layout of the pages has been changed,
and I've added a page to get driving directions. This page doesn't show
any maps yet, just the text. I am working on adding an overview map of the
trip.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:11:24 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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From:         Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Subject:      PCMCIA Disks,Procesors and Hard Drives are Available.
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (2) Pentium 133mhz processors. They are in excellent
condition as well and I  am selling them  for $15.00 plus $3.00 for
shipping and packaging.


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:06:59 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> The real good thing is, if somebody doesn't feel comfortable with the
> accuracy of mapblast, he might use another provider or last not least
> might find a suitable map to look in.

You are confusing me. I thought we are forced to use lxmapblast twice
a day ;-)

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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:51:20 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andy Kelley N1YEW <n1yew@SOFTHOME.NET>
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From:         Andy Kelley N1YEW <n1yew@SOFTHOME.NET>
Subject:      HP-95LX PC Software
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Does anyone have HP95 LX PC Software??

If so, would you please send me a copy, since i didn't get one with my =
second hand HP95LX?

Thanks,
Andy N1YEW

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LX PC=20
Software??</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:53:14 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Sprague <eugarps@MINDSPRING.COM>
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From:         Bill Sprague <eugarps@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Who sell the Flex Light Now?
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Hi,

I've begun to use my HP200LX more for reading in bed while my wife sleeps.
She'd appreciate a less intrusive light for my Palmtop.

Thanks,

Bill

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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 17:36:54 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> Hi Steve Carder and All,
>
> >I received you message from the HPLX list on my 200LX using WWW/LX =
with
> One
> >Nation Online as my ISP.  I never see any banners on my palmtop <g>.  =
I
> set up
> >an account with 1NOL using my desktop browser.  Then I set up WWW/LX
> using the
> >recommendations from a web site posted on this list.
> >
> >http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/dosinet.htm
>
> It appears that my suspicions have been confirmed.  I finally got =
through
> when pointing my browser to www.1nol.com, but was automatically
> redirected to Free At Last's website.  It sure looks like Free At Last
> has taken over One Nation On Line's business.
>
> BTW, Free At Last is owned IDT, who has a terrible customer service
> history.
>


> Steve, do you have any inside info on this event or about Free At Last?

I got an E-mail from 1NOL that told me of the planned merger with Free At =
Last.
 They made it sound like a really good idea, of course.  All I have =
noticed
since then is less relibility in their POP3 server.  I can sign on to =
1NOL as
my ISP and check my other POP3 accounts, but I don't always manage to =
connect
with 1NOL's POP3 server even though I am using them as the ISP.

Steve Carder

>
> If Free At Last has also purchased One Nation On Line's access numbers
> and servers, as well, they may be temporarily using two different login
> procedures right now, depending upon which access numbers users are =
using
> (1nol's old lines or Free At Last lines).
>
> Do the instructions at the above URL also apply exactly to a Free At =
Last
> account?
>
> Any specific info you may have about this would be greatly appreciated,
> Steve.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
> Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
>
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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:29:41 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Who sell the Flex Light Now?
Comments: To: Bill Sprague <eugarps@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Hi Bill,

I'll bet Thaddeus might ... if not, and/or you live near a "Sharper Image"
they used to sell a light/alarm clock, designed to clip onto books, for
reading. It has the same flex light (but is bigger and more cumbersome) AND,
when you pull the flex light out, you can use the open 'slot' (for the
light) to wrangle it onto the palmtop's screen.

It's a little cumbersome, and if you start some agitated thumb-typing, you
will likely knock it off (that's why I suggested you stop in and try one, if
they still carry it at Sharper Image).

Good luck!!

--tim

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:33:30 +0900
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Robert Kawaratani <rkk@MOTOMI.NET>
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I've mentioned in the past that Baen Books, the science fiction publisher,
had a Webscriptions program where one could buy 4 or 5 science fiction
novels for $10 each month. They've improved that service (at least from our
point of view) by offering the books in RTF format which can be converted in
MSDOS text easily by almost any word processing program in existence. Now
Baen and several of their authors are now offering a number of books in RTF
and other formats for free. If you like action science fiction then take a
look at www.baen.com. Please read Eric Flint's (he's the author we need to
thank for persuading several of his fellow authors to participate)
introduction and then download the files. Baen also provides generous
samples of other books online for free as well as by webscription.

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:36:10 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: One Nation On Line

Hi Steve,

>I got an E-mail from 1NOL that told me of the planned merger with Free
At Last.
>They made it sound like a really good idea, of course.  All I have
noticed
>since then is less relibility in their POP3 server.  I can sign on to
1NOL as
>my ISP and check my other POP3 accounts, but I don't always manage to
connect
>with 1NOL's POP3 server even though I am using them as the ISP.

Thanks loads for the info, Steve. :-)  Since new subscribers can no
longer get a One Nation On Line account and must now take a Free At Last
account instead, if you find the specific setup info for Free At Last
(like the instructions listed in the URL you gave), _please_ let us know.
:-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

________________________________________________________________
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Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:16:48 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
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From:         Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Iconoclasts (Fluff)
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Barry;

Thanks for a well-written post. I particularly liked the the contrasting
irony in "rabid peacemaker", and the cynical, but pointed insights of
the content. My, how I enjoy good writing! Thanks again.

As a "fanatical Christian" I am proud to say that I only found
Nathalie's post to be a little rude and have learned to take Nathalie
with a grain of salt -- or sugar as the case may be. I was not really
offended by it and just filed it along with all those other things under
"faithless secular humanist ramblings." As a 'Mormon', I am used to
being taken as a nut case and I simply regard those who regard me in
that way as those who simply don't understand, and give them a wry
smile, with a small measure of pity. (Did that make sense?) A certain
amount of tolerance is a healthy thing.

Richard Smith
aka Seronac


Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

>Nathalie was just doing her job.  She did what fanatical iconoclasts
>are supposed to do.  She attacked someone's beliefs.

>Now it's your job as a fanatical Christian to be offended.  It all
>works out very well.

>As for interesting, gregarious, tolerant, polite and pleasant, I
>think we still fit that for the most part.  Maybe these days you
>could add "open" to that list of characteristics, too.

>I'm just doing my job as a rabid peacemaker.  We all have our roles
>to play.

>Barry

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:20:00 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 11:01 AM
Subject: Iconoclasts (Fluff)


> > As far as the Natalie situation, I kind of took
> > offence, particularly since the hplx community,
> > both in comp.sys.palmtops, where it used to
> > dominate, and here, has been the most interesting,
> > gregarious, tolerant, polite, and pleasant community
> > I ever found in all my years on the net (which for
> > me is about twelve years).
> >  But I felt it not worth pursuing.

Wow, I was grateful that this subject had died down, and specially that
no one seemed interested in responding to my comment, which was
meant as an aside.  But since you did  .   .   .

> Nathalie was just doing her job.  She did what fanatical iconoclasts
> are supposed to do.  She attacked someone's beliefs.
>
> Now it's your job as a fanatical Christian to be offended.  It all
> works out very well.

What makes me a fanatic, the Christian part, the offended part,
or the Bible posts part?  Just curious.

Taking about offense, some months ago some fellow from Germany
posted a nasty, racist remark concerning my ability to write in english
so well considering who I was.   This was in connection with  threads
about Web based translation services and about whether people should
post to the list in languages other than english.    I choose not to respond
because the list at the time was reaching a fluff saturation point, and I
did not want to contribute to the problem.   Beside, he sounded like an
inmature college kid.    My question is, does my being offended by this
also makes me a fanatic?   I am asking because, unlike Natalie, I
don't recall posting anything remotely promoting my personal beliefs,
nor do I recall flaming anyone about theirs, or anything posted here.
I believe it is proper to mention religion in this list the way any other
subject is mentioned, either in direct connection with the palmtop,
or as a brief aside to that discussion (as every other subject is treated).

> As for interesting, gregarious, tolerant, polite and pleasant, I
> think we still fit that for the most part.  Maybe these days you
> could add "open" to that list of characteristics, too.

Sure, I just ran out of adjectives.  :-)

> I'm just doing my job as a rabid peacemaker.  We all have our roles
> to play.

Rabid peacemaker? Isn't that an oxymoron? :-)

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 04:41:10 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: DOS: Current directory in a batch file
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Please inspect my tiny "old" bat file I needed daily for this
kind of porposes

Harry WELLNER


QUOTE bat-file HOMEDIR.BAT

::
:: PURPOSE: Defines the current directory.
::
:: REMARKS: If argument passed (example: T:\REFINE) then
::          argument will overruled the query.
::          The DOS variable 'HOMEDIR' contains the directory name.
::          File C:\#.bat contains the value for
::          HOMEDIR for CALLing procedure.
::

@ECHO OFF

        ECHO SET HOMEDIR=3D%%1>C:\homedir.bat

        ECHO @PROMPT C:\homedir $p > C:\hulp1.bat
        %COMSPEC% /C C:\hulp1.bat > C:\hulp2.bat

        CALL C:\hulp2.bat
        ERASE C:\hulp*.bat| ERASE C:\homedir.bat

        IF NOT %1.=3D=3D. %Then% SET HOMEDIR=3D%1

        ECHO SET HOMEDIR=3D%HOMEDIR%>C:\#.bat

:DONE

UNQUOTE bat-file

> A quick one for you guys:
> How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?
__________________________________________
    o__       Harry Wellner
   _.>/)_
  (_) \(_)    Email: hwellner@mail.com


Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Met vriendelijke groeten

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 07:16:08 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Sun,  8 Oct 2000 17:19:05 -0400, Ken wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> > > > I've used my Zip drive with the palmtop just fine
>
> How did you install the zip drive on the 200lx?  I tried hooking up a zip
> drive to a pentium 2 laptop and a pentium 2 desktop with no luck.

It was not me who did this..

I have had no trouble hooking a zipdrive to my 286 laptop. Pentium
laptop or my 400a desktop machine. But I have never tried the 200lx

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:28:17 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: FS: 2gb Jaz Drive
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2000101507160863@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> from "Martin
              Bergvill" at Oct 15, 2000 07:16:08 AM
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> > How did you install the zip drive on the 200lx?  I tried hooking up a zip
> > drive to a pentium 2 laptop and a pentium 2 desktop with no luck.
>
> It was not me who did this..
>
> I have had no trouble hooking a zipdrive to my 286 laptop. Pentium
> laptop or my 400a desktop machine. But I have never tried the 200lx

It may have been my comment you quoted.  I have used the Zip drive in
the past on my palmtop for backup purposes.  I use the parallel port
PCMCIA adaptor sold by Thaddeus.  There are some DOS drivers provided
by IOMEGA, and I believe there were some instructions provided with
the parallel port adaptor.  In any event, I also got some assistance
from other list members who have a similar setup.  But it wasn't too
hard.

I would ask what specific problem you are having, but you only refer
to having problems with your laptop computer, not the palmtop.  BTW,
I have also used this same ZIP drive on my laptop computer (300MHz
Pentium II) without any problems.

<FLUFF> Well, one problem.  I carried my zip drive with me on a
business trip.  I pulled it out in order to make a backup for my
client.  The laptop was fairly new, and I had not yet installed the
ZIP drivers that come on the CD.  I had the CD with me for this
reason, and pulled it out to install.  After the installation process,
which went smoothly, my client was idly looking at the CD.  In
amazement, he pointed out this *huge* crack in it!  It looked like
someone had shot it with a BB gun - there was a big star-like crack
that took up easily 1/4 of the disk!  Had I seen this crack at first,
I would have never even put it in my drive, much less expected it to
work!  (The crack was not apparent from the top of the disk, only from
the shiny, bottom side).  </FLUFF>

-Chris

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3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:43:10 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: HP-95LX PC Software
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Hi Andy,

> If so, would you please send me a copy, since i didn't get one with my
> second hand HP95LX?

On http://www.palmtop.net/super

there is a section for 95LX software.

GTX
daniel

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LX PC=20
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Hi Andy,

sorry, I gave you a wrong URL. The correct link is
http://www.palmtop.net/super95.html

> On http://www.palmtop.net/super
>
> there is a section for 95LX software.

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Goeldi wrote:

>
> BUT: The most fanatic people I met in this time and before, always had =
been
> atheists. I investigated the thoughts of the atheists and evolutionists =
too.
> And I came to the conclusion, that the evolution theory is one of the
> biggest fundamentalist religions existing.
>
> Carl Sagan said "The evolution theory is a religion under a scientific
> cover" (bad translation by me).


OK,but what alternative theory did he or you offer?

Even if there are many transit fossils missing,the life on earth seems to =
become more and more complex.

From sulfurbacterias to the brain of homo sapiens.


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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:51:29 -0400, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> Tim wrote: > > > Can someone tell me a compelling reason to upgrade.
I have 2.0 now and > don't really use it that much execpt when
traveling. > > > > What are the differencies in the two products? > >

> Yes,I also wonder about that.

Hi

I use 3.0 and I have not noticed any big differncies between 2.0 -> 3.0
in daily use(mail). But I use newsgroups alot and I find the Robot/Lx
way of downloading messages faster/more stable than in v2.0.

Also the use of PostH with v3.0 is great. It can add signature and also
insert a topline and wrap it if it is longer than 80 chars. It is a
very usable addon.

As I see it v3.0 is more "future proof". It can be alterned faster to
meet changes in the "world" of isp's/newsservers/mailservers.

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:25:14 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Even if you don't use a Nokia 8210 with your palmtop at the
> moment, just remember, that it only works at 38400 baud through
> IrDA.

I use a Nokia 7110 and I have the same problem. But this is only with
v3.0 o Www/lx. 19200 works with 8210/7110 in v.2.2.

> I get many questions concerning PDU-SMS not working, and
> it was always a wrong baud rate.

I was almost going mad. I could not get online/pdu script to work on
19200. Then I changed to 38400 and everything was working again. I
asked you about this in private mail some time ago.

> The Nokia 8210 is a nice little mobile, coming down in price
> dramatically. Whithin the next months, we will see a huge second
> hand market for this phone for about $100.

I would like one for that price :-). I work as a dealer and the 8210 is
still pretty expencive. It cost about 3500,- Nok about $350 And I do
not expect them to get any cheaper any time soon.

I would like a small phone for when I go out drinking :-)

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:38:33 -0500
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Hi All.

Getting email from a friend on Hotmail. Using "Outlook Express" to read it
and getting an error message (only) when I open her email:

"An ActiveX control on this page is not safe. Your current security settings
prohibit running unsafe controls on this page. As a result, this page may
not display as intended."

Can I use Hotmail, to forward the message to an account my LX can receive
and see this "unsafe" content? Or, would most of the LX email programs
display only the text of the email? I guess my "subquestion" is "Which
LX-capable email program has a feature that will allow me to 'reveal all
codes' and ferret this out?"

She'd gotten a Melissa-like virus, once, and my antivirus software zapped it
before it got me; could this be the same kind of thing or does she just have
an email program that is adding a cute animation or something to all her
emails (on purpose)?

I haven't heard of any email-propagated, ActiveX virus, but I could've
missed the news on this one.....

TIA for any advice,

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:43:26 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard and Patti Smith" <seronac@freeport.com>
To: <barry@FBTC.NET>; "HPLX-L Users Group"
<HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: Iconoclasts (Fluff)


> Barry;
>
> Thanks for a well-written post. I particularly liked the the
contrasting
> irony in "rabid peacemaker", and the cynical, but pointed insights
of
> the content. My, how I enjoy good writing! Thanks again.

Thanks for the kind words.

> As a "fanatical Christian" I am proud to say that I only found
> Nathalie's post to be a little rude and have learned to take
Nathalie
> with a grain of salt -- or sugar as the case may be. I was not
really
> offended by it and just filed it along with all those other things
under
> "faithless secular humanist ramblings." As a 'Mormon', I am used
to
> being taken as a nut case and I simply regard those who regard me
in
> that way as those who simply don't understand, and give them a wry
> smile, with a small measure of pity. (Did that make sense?) A
certain
> amount of tolerance is a healthy thing.

What you call "faithless secular humanist ramblings" I think I call
"attempts to understand".  We non-believers don't have the
assurances you have as believers.

As to being a nut case, I've known a few serious Mormans and I
didn't find them any nuttier than any other serious religious
people.  Or any other serious non-religious people, for that matter.
Most are doing what I'm doing.  Trying to understand.

The way you describe your feelings for those who look down on you
doesn't really come across as tolerance.  It seems more like giving
what you're getting.  Is pity tolerance?  Is a wry smile a tolerant
smile or is it a show of scorn?

I suspect there's not much tolerance on either side of this issue.
Passion and tolerance are almost opposites.  Tolerance will be found
among those who don't care.

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Hi all.

Been a registered "Buddy" user forever and, in the last year or so, started
using the "Password" feature that locks the LX, when powered off for a
certain time.

I looked in the documentation, but can't seem to find a way to change the
password from the one I set up. The documentation says Buddy won't give the
"change password" option to an unregistered user, but I can see my serial
number displayed on the setup screen; so I imagine Buddy "thinks" I'm
registered.

I have had some odd things happen, recently, to my palmtop. Some of my
"options" reset to the out of the box default.... Best example is the "More
Applications" screen went to the default order and I lost the icons,
shortcuts, etc. for things I had added. I imagine an .env file bit the dust.

I've re-added the things to my More Apps. screen, but could more of my .env
files (like Buddy's) be bad?

Today's becoming my "tinker" day (so expect more emails from me <grin>). I
*have* been reading the manual(s) first and have headed off one "stupid"
question already <VBG>!

TIA for any help,

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Subject: Re: Iconoclasts (Fluff)


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 11:01 AM
> Subject: Iconoclasts (Fluff)
>
> > Nathalie was just doing her job.  She did what fanatical
iconoclasts
> > are supposed to do.  She attacked someone's beliefs.
> >
> > Now it's your job as a fanatical Christian to be offended.  It
all
> > works out very well.
>
> What makes me a fanatic, the Christian part, the offended part,
> or the Bible posts part?  Just curious.

None of those things.  It's your failure to recognize that I was
being sardonic.

> > I'm just doing my job as a rabid peacemaker.  We all have our
roles
> > to play.
>
> Rabid peacemaker? Isn't that an oxymoron? :-)

Further proof of your fanaticism.  :)

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> Does anyone have HP95 LX PC Software??
>
> If so, would you please send me a copy,
> since i didn't get one with my second hand HP95LX?

The only software that came with the 95lx was the built-in software.

It's possible that yours doesn't boot into sysmgr and you don't see
the built-in software.  If it boots right into Dos, at the C:\>
prompt, type $SYSMGR and the built in apps will load.  When the 95lx
shipped that line was in the autoexec.bat file.

There was a connectivity kit that you could buy for, I think, $100.
It included a desktop version of the built in apps and
communications software.  I have that but I have no idea where the
disk is and I never actually used the software.  It only worked on a
dos computer, too.  That was before windows became popular.

But it did include a couple of programs for making a network-like
connection with a Dos pc.  It works pretty well if you're using a
dos pc.  It won't work under windows.  If you're using windows,
Hyperterminal is a good choice.

If you are using dos and you want those communication programs, send
me a private email.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:00:55 +0200
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On Friday, 13.10.2000 at 15:42 GMT, Bill Schell  wrote:
> Greetings fellow HPLX'ers!
>
> I'm trying to convert the note database on my HP200LX to csv (comma
separated
> value) format, using the ancient, hoary and venerable HP connectivity
pack.
> I've done this years ago, but the connectivity pack isn't cooperating
this time.
> It's a pretty old DOS program now running on Win98, but it should still
work.
>
> Anyway, the problem is when I use the translate tool it complains it
can't
> open the input DB. The file is there and it is a valid notes database,
since
> I can view it through the notetaker app in the connectivity pack. The
> connectivity
> pack translator knows the file is there at some level, since you pick the
file
> via the
> usual HPLX browse interface.  I've made sure the path to the file is
short and
> there are no spaces in the directory and files names (since DOS sometimes
has
> problems with that).  Anyone else encountered this problem or know what
the
> solution might be?
>
I don't have problems with using the XLATE/MERGE function of the HP
Connectivity Pack but I'm using Windows 95, not 98.

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Been tinkering with loading pre-existing databases into my LX. I've never
used GDBLOAD before, but had used GDBDUMP often.

I've exported a small (three record) database into a .CSV file in two ways
but have gotten the same error message, when trying to run GDBLOAD:

" runtime error R6001
  - null pointer assignment "

Is this because I have an invalid or improperly formatted field (or
character on a "don't use" list) or could I have corrupted the executable
utility (the gdbload.exe) during download?

The two ways I created my Comma Separated file were:

1) Exported directly from Excel.
2) Imported the Excel record into Access and then exported to a .CSV (seemed
to have more control over it this way).

In both cases the first line contains the "field name".

I went through the Access "Advanced Export" features and made the dates meet
the formatting required by the gdbload documentation (or so I think <grin>)
AND went back and tried again deleting the TIME field Access added to the
mix, when I imported from Excel İ"20001010" became "20001010 00000" ... well
actually, "10-OCT-00" became "10-October-2000 0:00:00" but I took out the
delimiters, within the field and made the date format YYYYMMDD, as I think
that's the way GDBLOAD "likes" it¨.

What's the best way to get Microsoft database data into a 200LX database?

Maybe there's a way besides GDBLOAD, that the LX-Gurus of the list use.

TIA for any help.

(awaiting enlightenment),

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:35:52 -0600
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              Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
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I've just gotten to the point where I don't care to argue these points
anymore, since I've been doing it for over 20 years, since I was a
teenager, and have found such activities to be mostly a waste of time.
Anyone who is truly, humbly, and seriously seeking will ask sincere
questions and will know where to find the answers.

Anyway, I have found that these are frequently not attempts to
understand, but opportunities to criticize. Maybe that's cynical and
intolerant of me, but that's simply my experience. As for having
tolerance for other points of view and "secular humanist" types: I
believe tolerance is allowing others the freedom to believe, and act
upon those beliefs, as they feel they should, as long as they aren't
seriously harming anyone else. Just as I expect others to treat me.

I guess my 'wry smile' would be one that sort of says, "I care about
you, but your not getting it, so lets just agree to disagree, and be
friends anyway." There is much to be learned from others and their
points of view. Everyone has some amount of truth and something unique
and different. I believe we should seek to find as much positive and
good in others as we would hope that they would find in ourselves.

I apologize to everyone else who doesn't want to participate in our
discussion; if necessary, Barry and I will continue this discussion
off-list. Sorry to take up bandwidth.

Richard Smith
aka Seronac

Barry wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard and Patti Smith" <seronac@freeport.com>
> To: <barry@FBTC.NET>; "HPLX-L Users Group"
> <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 12:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Iconoclasts (Fluff)

> What you call "faithless secular humanist ramblings" I think I call
> "attempts to understand".  We non-believers don't have the
> assurances you have as believers.
>
> As to being a nut case, I've known a few serious Mormans and I
> didn't find them any nuttier than any other serious religious
> people.  Or any other serious non-religious people, for that matter.
> Most are doing what I'm doing.  Trying to understand.
>
> The way you describe your feelings for those who look down on you
> doesn't really come across as tolerance.  It seems more like giving
> what you're getting.  Is pity tolerance?  Is a wry smile a tolerant
> smile or is it a show of scorn?
>
> I suspect there's not much tolerance on either side of this issue.
> Passion and tolerance are almost opposites.  Tolerance will be found
> among those who don't care.
>
> Barry

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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Programming the 200lx for fun
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David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL> wrote:

> When I am asked at work what is my
> preferred porgramming environment _ Unix, MSVC etc. I always say
> "Lying in a hammock in the park"

Excellent! LOL!! My favorite programming environment is the
couch in the living room.


Stan

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Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:

> I've got the Newton Keyboard and the driver ...
> Is there an updated driver anywhere?

Mack write a Newton Keyboard driver eariler this year.  You
might be able to get it from www.times2tech.com or maybe on the
SUPER site.


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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:10:47 -0400
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              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:47:16 +0100
From: Harry Wellner <hwellner@mail.com>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA=
.COM>
Subject: Re: DOS: Current directory in a batch file

Please inspect my tiny "old" bat file I needed daily for this
kind of porposes

Harry WELLNER


QUOTE bat-file HOMEDIR.BAT

::
:: PURPOSE: Defines the current directory.
::
:: REMARKS: If argument passed (example: T:\REFINE) then
::          argument will overruled the query.
::          The DOS variable 'HOMEDIR' contains the directory name.
::          File C:\#.bat contains the value for
::          HOMEDIR for CALLing procedure.
::

@ECHO OFF

        ECHO SET HOMEDIR=3D%%1>C:\homedir.bat

        ECHO @PROMPT C:\homedir $p > C:\hulp1.bat
        %COMSPEC% /C C:\hulp1.bat > C:\hulp2.bat

        CALL C:\hulp2.bat
        ERASE C:\hulp*.bat| ERASE C:\homedir.bat

        IF NOT %1.=3D=3D. %Then% SET HOMEDIR=3D%1

        ECHO SET HOMEDIR=3D%HOMEDIR%>C:\#.bat

:DONE

UNQUOTE bat-file

> A quick one for you guys:
> How do I access the current directory pathname in a batch file?
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fits in your pocket!

Met vriendelijke groeten



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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:18:10 +1300
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Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:43:04 +1300 (NZST)

06h31m49s ago ...
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Also the use of PostH with v3.0 is great. It can add signature and also
> insert a topline and wrap it if it is longer than 80 chars. It is a
> very usable addon.

Hi Martin, I should upload the latest POSTH, but if anyone wants a copy
they are free to e-mail me. It requires the latest version of ROBOT/LX
at www.dasoft.com.

IMAP capability was also new with POST/LX v3.0. Works well with CS2000.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:18:14 +1300
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              Anthony G Hutchins <AGHutchins@CS.COM>
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Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:52:20 +1300 (NZST)

06h41m02s ago ...
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I was almost going mad. I could not get online/pdu script to work on
> 19200. Then I changed to 38400 and everything was working again. I
> asked you about this in private mail some time ago.

I too nearly went mad! :) I was thinking of blaming the firmware in the
8210. But Stefan told me it was the Baud :) The funny thing was I
*thought* I had set the port to 38400 (as I have a DS unit) but I had
made a typo in a bat file!

> I would like one for that price :-). I work as a dealer and the 8210 is
> still pretty expencive. It cost about 3500,- Nok about $350 And I do
> not expect them to get any cheaper any time soon.

Similar price here still. The New Zealand the phone market is so
small they don't even bring in the 8850, and only ever had one or two
8810's! I still don't have data set up on the 8210.  it seems to take
them about 3-4 days<G>. However we do have a very good "fax" service -
a fax mailbox were received faxes are stored and can them be re-sent to
where-ever one directs. In the UK they don't have this service - faxes
can only be received "live" over GSM.

> I would like a small phone for when I go out drinking :-)

Ahha, that's why my son took the 8810 then<G>

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:20:40 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

Check www.tradingpost.com.au for second hand gear..

There is/was one Nokia 8210 listed for AUD$100...about USD$55 after
conversions

Ciao

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:53:00 -0400
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:28:17 -0500, Chris Lott wrote:

> > > How did you install the zip drive on the 200lx?  I tried hooking up a zip
> > > drive to a pentium 2 laptop and a pentium 2 desktop with no luck.
> >
> > It was not me who did this..
> >
> > I have had no trouble hooking a zipdrive to my 286 laptop. Pentium
> > laptop or my 400a desktop machine. But I have never tried the 200lx
>
> It may have been my comment you quoted.

Probably.. somebody quoted what you said and then it appered as it was
me that wrote it and then he sent it to me privatly (and to the list
also)

Are you with me? :-)

>  I have used the Zip drive in
> the past on my palmtop for backup purposes.  I use the parallel port
> PCMCIA adaptor sold by Thaddeus.  There are some DOS drivers provided
> by IOMEGA, and I believe there were some instructions provided with
> the parallel port adaptor.  In any event, I also got some assistance
> from other list members who have a similar setup.  But it wasn't too
> hard.

I am sure this is not harder than using the dosdrivers with my 286
laptop.

> I would ask what specific problem you are having, but you only refer
> to having problems with your laptop computer, not the palmtop.  BTW,
> I have also used this same ZIP drive on my laptop computer (300MHz
> Pentium II) without any problems.

To conclude/summerize: I have no problem with zipdrive vs
laptop/desktop. I have never tried zipdrive vs palmtop because I do not
have a paralell card. But if we could get the orginal poster to post
what the problem was we could help him out.:-)

> <FLUFF>
> amazement, he pointed out this *huge* crack in it!  It looked like
> someone had shot it with a BB gun - there was a big star-like crack

I guess a bullethole in a cf card would mean corruption beyond what
chkdsk could fix :-))

Regards

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:53:03 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:15:49 -0600, Donald Collins wrote:

> This message serves as an announcement that the
> following mailing list has been established.
>
>     vbdev.palmtop.com

Good..I am looking forward to see the fruits of this work :-)

Good luck..I will wait here on the Hplx list and see what happens..

Regards

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 02:15:42 +0000
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> I've just gotten to the point where I don't care to argue these points
> anymore, since I've been doing it for over 20 years, since I was a
> teenager, and have found such activities to be mostly a waste of time.
> Anyone who is truly, humbly, and seriously seeking will ask sincere
> questions and will know where to find the answers.

That does happen to most of us after a long enough time.

Of course, your being a Mormon makes you possibly more sympathetic to
"outsiders" and minority points of view.  It was a Mormon family along
with a Catholic (I believe) that brought about the most recent Supreme
Court Case on prayer in public school or rather at football games.

And the reaction to that decision just shows THEY don't get it.  Forcing
members of minority persuasions to deal with the impact of the majority
religion in public places is not very fair.  But, of course,
proselytizing even to the discomfort of others has never stopped anyone
who "believes."  If the "believers" would only accept that others
believe or don't believe to their own comfort level would be a blessing!
(G)

I will admit to be intolerant of those who are intolerant of my beliefs
and to be left alone.

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Date:         Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:52:49 -0600
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fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> But, of course,
> proselytizing even to the discomfort of others has never stopped anyone
> who "believes."  If the "believers" would only accept that others
> believe or don't believe to their own comfort level would be a blessing!
> (G)

Agreed, that's why I only proselytize to those with a sincere desire to
learn and who are receptive.

> I will admit to be intolerant of those who are intolerant of my beliefs
> and to be left alone.

Very well put, I agree there, too.

I also believe that the world would be a much better place if everyone would
simply live their religion and allow others to live theirs -- as long as it
doesn't require such things as human sacrifice, etc!  ;-)

Now how can I make this relate to the HP 200LX? ... Oh: these are also the
reasons why I have gotten the 32 MB upgrade and keep the LDS Scriptures on
my palmtop: reference material anywhere I go!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard and Patti Smith" <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
Subject: Re: Iconoclasts (Fluff)

Iconoclasts???? Is that a new program for the  200lx that produces icons for
system manager?

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:40:41 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Bill,

On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:53:14 -0400, Bill Sprague <eugarps@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:

> I've begun to use my HP200LX more for reading in bed while my wife sleeps.
> She'd appreciate a less intrusive light for my Palmtop.

Did you consider the LED light? I use this one for exactly this purpose
;-)

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:29:49 +0800
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The problem lies within MaxDOS itself since MaxDOS is a TSR program. I've tried
removing all other TSR but the problem still persist. I noticed the problem
occurs when I run SC during any maxdos session. Conclusion, never switch to
virtual palmtops during any MaxDOS session.

Regards,
Leong

____________________Reply Separator____________________
Subject:    Re: Maxdos and Software Carousel 7
Author: jorgen@palmtop.net
Date:       10/13/2000 10:55 PM

YES!

I have the exact same problem! I know several people also using SC &
MaxDOS without this problem. So I have figured out that it must be
because of some TSR program. If you want, please send me your
autoexec.bat & config.sys file and I will check what we have in common
and then remove the TSR and see if it helps...

Regards,

Jorgen

> Does anyone on the list uses maxdos to swap out System Manager within Software
> Carousel? I tried but each time after System Manager was restored, pressing
> CTRL+2, CTRL+3 or CTRL+. does not bring me to another virtual palmtop session
> until I quit System Manger or shell to DOS. Any ideas or solutions?
>
> Thanks
> Leong
>

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:33:37 +0000
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Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I use a Nokia 7110 and I have the same problem. But this is only with
> v3.0 o Www/lx. 19200 works with 8210/7110 in v.2.2.

are you sure? I thought I had the 8210 longer than v3.0 of
www/lx exists. But I don't want to reinstall v2.2 just for
testing. If it is true, what you say, it would be a WWW/LX
v3.0 bug.

> > Whithin the next months, we will see a huge second
> > hand market for this phone for about $100.
>
> I would like one for that price :-). I work as a dealer and the 8210 is
> still pretty expencive. It cost about 3500,- Nok about $350 And I do
> not expect them to get any cheaper any time soon.

I'm quite sure about the $100 in Germany, because you can get
a new one already at that price with a 2 years contract.

If you follow the market, you'll find out, that the second hand
price is close to the 2 years contract price, because you also
get a new one if your contract is prolonged. Some sell these
phones immediately on the second hand market with a small
surcharge.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:23:51 +0100
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Try fsplit, available at Simtel

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:14:40 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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Now there's something that rings a bell!  You must run the connectivity pack
with the "Advanced Program Settings" choice, "Prevent MS-DOS-based programs
from detecting Windows" selected in order to run it correctly under Windows
95 or Windows 98.  Have you done that?

Alan

>From: Bill Schell İmailto:bill@bell-labs.com¨
>Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 2:29 PM
>
>Thanks! OK, I ran DBCHECK.  It checked out OK.  I'm thinking its something
>more perverse like connectivity pack having problems under win98.  Cpack
>is saying "can't open DB" like it can't even find the file...

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Bill Schell wrote:

> Thanks! OK, I ran DBCHECK.  It checked out OK.  I'm thinking its something
> more perverse like connectivity pack having problems under win98.  Cpack
> is saying "can't open DB" like it can't even find the file...

Bill,

Win 95 (and perhaps 98) does bad things to DOS programs
sharing files.  It sometimes attaches ownership of a file
to who knows what.  Two things to try; one, copy the file
to a new name (maybe in a DOS session) to make a new file
without a lock on it; and two, reboot to "MS-DOS Mode".

See if either of these make a difference.

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:22 -0400
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              Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
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Do I do something wrong? Is my mail not readable?
Or is there no interest in the topic WAP  + HPLX?
Uli

> I am not sure whether this topic has been talked about:
> Is there a chance to read WAP-Sites with the HP200LX?
> It is nice to edit a WAP card with PE and to load it
> to the internet with ftp. But I don't know a way to
> see whether the WAP-card works or not - if one has
> no WAP mobile.
> Uli
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Russell,

> 1)  copy existing jam file, say one.jam from Flashcard to 32 MB partitio=
n
> and see if you can manually mount it.

> 2)  Make a small, Maybe 500k jam disk on C: and see if you can copy/moun=
t
> that on the 32MB drive

Thanks for your continuous support. I have tried both of your suggestion =
and
while I can copy or create a JAM volume on the C: drive, I am still =
unable to
mount it and keep getting the same error message.

I hope Mack can shed some light on the possible interactions between the =
T2T
RAM driver and JAM.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:12:54 -0500
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Date:    Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:07:10 -0400
From:    Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Subject: Re: Iconoclasts (Fluff)

Iconoclasts???? Is that a new program for the  200lx that produces
icons for
system manager?

No, it's a program that attempts to remove icons from the 200lx. :)

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I run connectivity pack under Win 98 under restart in ms-dos mode.  Works
fine that way...will no work under just the dos prompt.

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What is WAP?????????

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:16:27 -0400, Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:

> What is WAP?????????

Wireless Application Protocol and most commonly used on internet enabled
phones.

Jeff

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My son accidentally tipped over my palmtop case this weekend, and out
slipped my REX3.  I was going to show it to him, and noticed the screen
was cracked and dead.  (No, he didn't crack it, I'm certain).  Anyway,
this will definitely slow to an even slower crawl my further development
of the REX3-HP200LX program.  My associate here at work has one, and
perhaps he'll trade my REX5 for his REX3 - that would put me back in
business.  Lacking that, what's the best place/price these days to buy
one (REX3, that is)?

-Chris Lott

p.s.  Both my associate and I are the typical engineer type, so we'll
also be dismantling the busted REX3 and examine the insides, I'm sure.
If anyone wants a report, please advise offlist.

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Would you please put a "FLUFF" in front of your Subject line?
This is definitely not anymore on-topic. Of course, besides of bible
programs a lot of other software runs on the LX. I run a religion-related
software on the LX too and discussed about it OFF-LIST with somebody from
the list. You cannot make this much noise about every hobby, only because it
is manageable with the LX.



>From: Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: Bible programs
>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:19:37 -0400
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Colin Thompson" <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Bible programs
>
>
> > I believe PC Study Bible was around before Online Bible.
>
>The first version of the Online Bible came out in 1988.  Is PC study
>Bible older than that?   Either way, I reread the OLB documentation,
>and it is full of permissions to use stuff, so I don't think they
>originated
>much material.   But I understand that most Bible programs are compatible
>with the OLB database, through the generosity of the author, Larry Pierce.
>
> >  BibleSoft pays a
> > license fee for every copy of every text they use.  The KJV and ASV are
>an
> > exception because they are in public domain.
>
>I was refering to the reference materials, paper versions of which I have,
>and
>most of it is more than 100 years old.   I am not sure about the Jay green
>stuff.   He took the Thayer material (public domain), and indexed it with
>the Strongs
>numbers (public domain).   Is the resulting material copyrighted?  I guess
>it
>might be, but Online Bible has permission to distribute for free.  I guess
>since PC Study Bible costs an arm and a leg Jay Green would be less
>generous with his materials (his MKJV is available for free for the Palm,
>with
>another freeware Bible program).
>
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > Domingo Diaz-V
> >
> > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >
> >
> > Do you mean the text (which is public domain AFAIK, or the Online Bible
> > indexed databases?
> >
> > I am surprised about that, considering that the PC Study Bible, when it
>came
> > out, could
> > set you back about $400, with all the tools and versions included.
> >
> > Domingo
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >
> >
> > > PC Study Bible's Hebrew and Greek lexicons came from Online Bible.
> > >
> >
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>OK,but what alternative theory did he or you offer?

Creation

>Even if there are many transit fossils missing,

There wasn't found ANY transit fossil until now.

>the life on earth seems to become more and more complex.

does it?

>From sulfurbacterias to the brain of homo sapiens.

and from DOS to Windows CE?


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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:48:54 -0700
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Best place for a NEW REX 3 is eBay they seem to hover around $30 with =
Docking
Station.
While I'm aware there is nothing more fun than exploring for yourself - =
the following link has photos of the insides of a REX -
http://www.econ.nyu.edu/merlin/rex/
=3D=3D=3D=3Dalso I would LOVE to be able to use the Rex with the HP : )

@@@@@@

FYI the memory stick from Sony along with the adaptor works fine in the =
HP 200LX, so if you're using a Sony product that takes the memory sticks =
you can also use them --- While I know this is NOT the MOST economical =
memory system available,=20
it just adds one more option, if you like I already have these items on =
hand.

@@@@@@

Finally I would like to say while very new to this list as well as =
ownership of a HP 200LX, I find this to be a VERY interesting group with =
a very wide area of interests : )
keep up the good work : )
terry

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:05:40 -0500
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>> WAP?? <<

From my limited investigation into this, I think the primary goal of WAP
is to assure that access to those sites present content that is
formatted to fit the extremely limited cell phone and Palm screen
limits... something that the LX has an advantage with.

 Beverly Howard

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephan Goeldi" <stephan_goeldi@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Bible programs


> Would you please put a "FLUFF" in front of your Subject line?

Well, why didn't you, since you are so worried about it?

> This is definitely not anymore on-topic. Of course, besides of bible
> programs a lot of other software runs on the LX. I run a religion-related
> software on the LX too and discussed about it OFF-LIST with somebody from
> the list. You cannot make this much noise about every hobby, only because
it
> is manageable with the LX.

Discussing why or why not parts of  a program are copyrighted is
a subject that comes up all the time here.   Discussion of Bible software
seldom comes up.   Bandwidth-wasting flaming is never far away  .  .  .

If your post  is not noise and off-topic, I don't know what is, really.
Why add to the noise?   It is not even relevant to the thread.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:39:37 -0400
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By any chance, does anyone have a Libretto for sale?

Jeff

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:05:40 -0500, Beverly Howard <Bev@BevHoward.com> wrote:

> >From my limited investigation into this, I think the primary goal of WAP
> is to assure that access to those sites present content that is
> formatted to fit the extremely limited cell phone and Palm screen
> limits... something that the LX has an advantage with.

FWIW, through the use of browser made for the Palm it is possible to view
almost all web site properly formatted. You can even view them graphically
by using Proxiweb.

Jeff

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So maybe you should just print the database into .CSV format.  You can do
that quickly with the 200LX's NoteTaker application itself or from the
Connectivity Pack's version.  For details, see my page on the subject at:
http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/HPdbexport.txt.

I just tried this with my notes database and it did take just about 5
minutes for the whole thing.  If you have any questions on how to do this,
just ask.

Alan

>From: Bill Schell İmailto:bill@bell-labs.com¨
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:10 PM
>...
>I had great hopes for this solution, but the &¬#*&@ connectivity pack still
claims it can't
>open my database.   I tried bringing the machine down to MSDOS mode also,
no dice.
>I have an old 386 laptop running Windows 3.1 somewhere in my closet, maybe
it's worth
>a try on that!  If it doesn't run there, the problem probably isn't OS
related.
>
>I think I may have some C code around that reads .ndb or .gdb files.
>If nothing else works, I can hack that to fit.  This was supposed to be
>a 5 minute conversion!-(

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Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon, USA.
Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found an
HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.  After putting
in fresh main and backup batteries, much to my delight I found the unit to
be fully functional.  I did a quick internet search and came across a number
of websites indicating that the 200LX has a well deserved cult following,
and is actually quite an excellent device regardless of age.

Also unearthed along with the 200LX was a US Robotics Megahertz "All Points"
wireless PC card, with detachable telescoping and flexible antennaes.  The
bubble wrap packaging containing the modem card indicated that "the modem
has been configured to disable charging, and will not drain the Palmtop
battery."  Included with the modem card was a PC card labeled "Zap-It For
Windows," which appeared to have a program called "Infowave."  I'm pretty
much a dummy when it comes to DOS, but I was able to install the Infowave
program on the 200LX.  So here are a few questions:

--My first priority is to establish file transferability between the Palmtop
and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable, and
have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to swap
files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?

--Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and "Infowave"
program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far as
wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
still usable in today's wireless market?

--Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX and/or
the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?

My apologies for such a lengthy message.  Given what I've come across on the
internet regarding the viability of the HP 200LX, consider me an instant
convert!  I'm looking forward to exploring the possibilities of this device,
and wishing I'd checked behind my desk last year, before I bought my PDA!  I
would welcome and appreciate any and all guidance that you might see fit to
provide.  Thank you for your time and attention.

Nathan Olsen
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:15:52 +0800
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Dear list members,

I just bought a Kodak DC215 digital camera and found out to my horror that
the compact flash (CF) 4mb memory card that came with the camera was not
compatible with my HP200LX.  I could have sworn I saw past posts that some
list members do have a working setup with these two combination.  Could
someone help me?  Am I missing some drivers?

The CF works just fine on my win95 laptop.  I noticed however that win95
had to detect the CF and had to install a driver (was not fast enough to
see what drivers it installed).  My other Sandisk CF card always works
without having to load any drivers.

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personal email as I get this list in digest form and am running a few days
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Well,

Since folks have ignored my non-religious related questions (tongue in
cheek, but not grinning, I've had some serious questions go unanswered,
buried in pseudo-flame), I've got a question about Bible programs on the LX.

The LX-related parts of the fluff mentioned some nice, searchable, Bible
programs, that RUN on other people's LX. I decided to download some of them,
while the fights raged on .... it gave me something to do, while waiting for
answers to my other questions.

I spent quite a bit of time downloading the DOS version of "Online Bible"
(the install program and many modules for it) and it won't install on my LX.
The one I'm talking about was at: http://www.onlinebible.simplenet.com/

Is this program too old to install w/o floppy disks? It's free, but I won't
run out and put it on 10+ floppies AND buy a floppy drive for my LX to use
the program.

I tried putting all of the extracted files in the root directory of A:, and
ran the "install.exe" it locks up my LX so hard that it won't respond to
CTL-ALT-DEL (I can reset w/ CTL-LeftSHIFT-ON, but that's it). It doesn't get
past showing that I hit enter, after typing "install".

I undid (temporarily "REMed") Software Carousel and Buddy, to see if they
might be causing a conflict and tried again. The only other things running
are the times-2-tech drivers needed for the double-speed and memory upgrade
(2X, 64MB).... That second bit does swap drives around, but it should be
transparent to this program, no?

I read the instructions, looked at "go.bat" which tells you how to put it on
8-million floppies, and it said to run "install.exe".... Is there something
I missed?

TIA,

--ttr

PS. Don't anyone flame me for being hacked off at the pseudo-flame war -- I
blame it for keeping me from learning the answers to two questions.

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Unless there's something wrong with 'em they usually go for $400-500

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I am wanting to buy a libretto 50CT for $300 if anyone is interested.

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I'm not sure I understand the question but I did write myself a  little
lxbatch based menu system that genrates batch files to run stuff after the
menu exits. It also displays date,time, battery, level and free space on
drives. If you're interested I can post it on a web site somewhere.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Klaus Reinhardt İmailto:K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE¨
>Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 4:06 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Howto run progs from lxbatch?
>
>
>Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
>>
>> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
>> But how to run a selected file from lxbatch?
>
>Hello!
>
>Excuse me, that was a stupid question. But I
>got a problem with the LXBatch-MenuXY and OnErrorGoto:
>I have to insert 2 dummy labels after the 0-escape, Why?
>
>MenuXY 100 20 "a" "b" "c"
>OnErrorGoto esc aa bb cc
>:esc
>..
>:aa
>..
>:bb
>..
>:cc
>..
>
>When I press a, I got the err=3 and the jump to :cc
>                Klaus.
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In a message dated 16-10-2000 4:25:02 PM CST, nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM
writes:

<< Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon, USA.
 Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found an
 HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.  >>

       Maybe it is just my misguided sense of duty, but doesn't it make some
sense to find out who lost what seems to be $2,000 worth of computer
equipment. At least before you lay claim to it? But, then, perhaps you have
already done that.

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My 100lx, after working wonderfully for 3 years, appears to have died.  Last
time it was working, it was charging NiCad batteries.  The charger being
used was a 14V plug pack, which I think is what may have killed it, being
above the recommended 12V.

I took the batteries out for a few days, put them back in, but still no
luck.  I even pulled the unit appart and put it back together, though still
nothing.  This is a 2Mb 100lx, with a Times 2 Tech double speed upgrade that
I added almost 2 years ago.

Any help in getting this operational would be greatly appreciated!  This
unit is definitely the most useful handheld device that I have ever owned,
and I dont want to have to go to the trouble of finding a replacement
100/200lx if at all possible

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Tim;
Try here, Hisword for the 200LX. It uses the Online Bible data files, but
the main program is for the 200LX.  http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/hisword.htm

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <palmtop@n-link.com>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:21 PM
Subject: Bible programs - An LX Question.


> Well,
>
> Since folks have ignored my non-religious related questions (tongue in
> cheek, but not grinning, I've had some serious questions go unanswered,
> buried in pseudo-flame), I've got a question about Bible programs on the
LX.
>
> The LX-related parts of the fluff mentioned some nice, searchable, Bible
> programs, that RUN on other people's LX. I decided to download some of
them,
> while the fights raged on .... it gave me something to do, while waiting
for
> answers to my other questions.
>
> I spent quite a bit of time downloading the DOS version of "Online Bible"
> (the install program and many modules for it) and it won't install on my
LX.
> The one I'm talking about was at: http://www.onlinebible.simplenet.com/
>
> Is this program too old to install w/o floppy disks? It's free, but I
won't
> run out and put it on 10+ floppies AND buy a floppy drive for my LX to use
> the program.
>
> I tried putting all of the extracted files in the root directory of A:,
and
> ran the "install.exe" it locks up my LX so hard that it won't respond to
> CTL-ALT-DEL (I can reset w/ CTL-LeftSHIFT-ON, but that's it). It doesn't
get
> past showing that I hit enter, after typing "install".
>
> I undid (temporarily "REMed") Software Carousel and Buddy, to see if they
> might be causing a conflict and tried again. The only other things running
> are the times-2-tech drivers needed for the double-speed and memory
upgrade
> (2X, 64MB).... That second bit does swap drives around, but it should be
> transparent to this program, no?
>
> I read the instructions, looked at "go.bat" which tells you how to put it
on
> 8-million floppies, and it said to run "install.exe".... Is there
something
> I missed?
>
> TIA,
>
> --ttr
>
> PS. Don't anyone flame me for being hacked off at the pseudo-flame war --
I
> blame it for keeping me from learning the answers to two questions.
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Olsen" <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
> Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found
an
> HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.
Is there a name on the top card when you turn the machine on?  Could that
person have lost it?


> --My first priority is to establish file transferability between the
Palmtop
> and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable, and
> have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to
swap
> files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?
I haven't had any luck with Transfile...contact http://www.thaddeus.com and
get a connectivity pack.  On most of my pcs I have been unable to use
transfile because the hp200lx goes in on the same port as the mouse and you
need a mouse to use transfile.


>
> --Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and
"Infowave"
> program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far as
> wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
> still usable in today's wireless market?
Don't know...never used it.


>
> --Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX
and/or
> the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?
200lx books can be obtained from http://www.thaddeus.com.  Maybe us robotics
can help with the card,


Good luck and welcome to the endless possibilities of the 200lx.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:33:06 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:33:37 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > I use a Nokia 7110 and I have the same problem. But this is only with
> > v3.0 o Www/lx. 19200 works with 8210/7110 in v.2.2.
>
> are you sure?

Yes I am sure. I did numorus tests. Same cfg's only differncies was
post.exe 2.2g and v3.0. Worked with v2.2g/19200, but not with v3.0.

> I thought I had the 8210 longer than v3.0 of
> www/lx exists. But I don't want to reinstall v2.2 just for
> testing.

No need. Already tested it alot..(I almost went mad you know..had to
prove to myself it was not me messing up:-)

> If it is true, what you say, it would be a WWW/LX
> v3.0 bug.

Yes it is. Dasoft are awere of this bug. I do not know if there will be
a fix for this. But it does not bother me now that I know there is a
bug. I use 38400 without problems..

> > > Whithin the next months, we will see a huge second
> > > hand market for this phone for about $100.
> >
> > I would like one for that price :-). I work as a dealer and the 8210 is
> > still pretty expencive. It cost about 3500,- Nok about $350 And I do
> > not expect them to get any cheaper any time soon.
>
> I'm quite sure about the $100 in Germany, because you can get
> a new one already at that price with a 2 years contract.

Okey..that is very cheap. It is a good phone. We do not have a 2 year
contract here. The goverment felt it was unfair to have so long
contracts(I mean contracts you _have_ to have for two years)

> If you follow the market, you'll find out, that the second hand
> price is close to the 2 years contract price, because you also
> get a new one if your contract is prolonged. Some sell these
> phones immediately on the second hand market with a small
> surcharge.

Lot of good prices out there here also, but they are based on the
provider sponsoring..will get a small phone some time soon..maybe a
8850 just because it got such a cool bluelight :-)

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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If you haven't found the site www.palmtoppaper.com already, please take a
look. You'll find what's available for sale, the latest word on
synchronizing the Ptop with a desktop (in the What's New) section) and all
past issues of the HP Palmtop Paper. The '93 through '00 issues will give
you an idea of what you've been missing. Also there are Users Guides for
sale in the Ultimate Store.

Others may have more to offer on the wireless card that you found.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:45:54 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Have you tried re-formatting it in the 200LX?  (FDisk100 then Format.)
I usually configure these Flash drives in a laptop here (that's happily
compatible with the 200LX), 4Mb cards usually are fine there.

  Mark

Oliver Chua wrote:
> Dear list members,
>
> I just bought a Kodak DC215 digital camera and found out to my horror that
> the compact flash (CF) 4mb memory card that came with the camera was not
> compatible with my HP200LX.  I could have sworn I saw past posts that some
> list members do have a working setup with these two combination.  Could
> someone help me?  Am I missing some drivers?
>
> The CF works just fine on my win95 laptop.  I noticed however that win95
> had to detect the CF and had to install a driver (was not fast enough to
> see what drivers it installed).  My other Sandisk CF card always works
> without having to load any drivers.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.  Please copy furnish any replies to my
> personal email as I get this list in digest form and am running a few days
> late.
>
> Oliver Chua
> bud@mindgate.net

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Hoi,

17.10.2000, 12:51, Nathan Olsen wrote:

> Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon, US=
A.
> Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found=
 an
> HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.

This sound like a really cool fairy tale - I think everyone in this list
dreams about finding a working 200LX somewhere on the loft....

My suggestion is, in addition to the other hints, to look at ebay.com if
you need additional cables, flash cards etc.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Subject:      Scientific revolution :Organic light-emitting diodes
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Guys;

Received this from one of the mailing list , can it be "transplanted"=
 to
our LX ?

chchan


Subject: Scientific revolution :Organic light-emitting diodes
Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:38 PM

Organic light-emitting diodes

Organic light-emitting diodes will revolutionize our multimedia world=
:
television screens will hang on walls like posters or lie flat on des=
ks as
writing surfaces, laptops will be feather-light, while car instrument
panels, cellular phones and clocks will display masses of information=
 in
colorful illuminated panels. A Bayer plastic is behind the displays o=
f the
future and is the subject of an article in the latest edition of
"research",
the Bayer scientific magazine.

The phenomenon of electroluminescent organic materials was discovered=
 50
years ago. These very delicate structures light up when an electric c=
urrent
is applied. However, the material used back then was too unstable and=
 the
light yield too low for anyone to think seriously about potential
applications. Now, Bayer's researchers have brought the idea out of t=
he
shadows with the development of organic substances which can be used =
to
produce ultrathin, flexible, fluorescent films. The breakthrough came=
 with
the development of the Bayer plastic Baytron=AE P. This transparent m=
aterial
increases the service life of organic light-emitting diodes to such a=
n
extent that the electronics industry is already using it in developin=
g the
technology for the color screens of the future.

The aim is the gradual replacement of conventional monitors with orga=
nic
light-emitting diodes. Because these consist entirely of plastic and
naturally emit light, they are extremely thin and feather-light. Thei=
r low
power requirement means that they are energy-saving and safe. Above a=
ll,
however, they have exceptional optical properties: they provide high
contrast, operate quickly and can be viewed from a very oblique angle=
.

The first telephones with the new displays should be on the market by=
 the
end of this year. These will be followed soon by video recorders, cel=
lular
phones, clocks and CD players. In the long term, the product range wi=
ll be
extended to include car navigation systems and instrument panels.
Prototypes
have demonstrated the advantages of this type of display: there is no
reflection, they are clearly legible and can show more information th=
an
their forerunners.

The vision of screens which can be rolled up is also no longer a futu=
ristic
dream. The technology already exists: it is just a matter of finding =
a
suitable plastic as the substrate =96 another challenge for Bayer's
researchers.

Maybe your grandchildren will roll the computer and goto to school.

Note:
Most of the product names referred to are registered trademarks. Othe=
r
brand
names may be used for the products in other countries, provided they =
are
available there.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:50:04 +0200
Reply-To:     furlan@gmx.net
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From:         Werner Furlan <furlan@GMX.NET>
Organization: OE9FWV
Subject:      Dial Problem solved
Comments: To: support@dasoft.com
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hello Avi
and all who gave me support from the list,

my problem with loosing carrier in Post/lX and also my dial up problem
is solved.
One part was a "mistake" in my post.cfg file and the other part is a
trick with command.com that Thomas Rundel told me.
I had a battery saver line in my post.cfg, and in a sleepless night
when I was thinking over this problem this line came into my mind:
postonline = lxcic /o

If you do not hang up after checking the mailbox in post/lx,
nevertheless this command is executed. I REM'd it and since then no
more problems with lost carrier.

Solution part two is:
call www like this:
www -d !command

after this I can use post/lx to use its superiour dial support, then
leave post and start HV or whatever I want.
It works like expected.

best regards,
Werner



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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:32:01 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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1. TransFile Win has some serious limitations.  You will need some form of
backup and while TransFile has a method for creating a monolithic copy of
everything in the palmtop, you cannot restore just a single file from these
sorts of backups.  It is possible to use TransFile to copy files as
individuals, but the date and time of creation get destroyed and replaced
with the time of transfer.

It is better to use the Connectivity Kit or the 200LX's built-in LapLink
Remote Access (LLRA) along with other file management utilities, such as
Xtree.  For some guidance on setting up LLRA without having to buy a
separate copy, see http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/LLRA.TXT.

2. Sorry, I don't have much information on the use of the AllPoints radio
modem or Infowave software.

Infowave is still in business and offers wireless services, but whether they
still support anything on the HPLX is undetermined -- they seem to be
heavily into WAP stuff now.  Have a look at http://www.infowave.com or call
them at 1-800-463-6928.

The Megahertz AllPoints Wireless PC Card may have been discontinued, as I
could find no references to it newer than 1997.  What that means as far as
providers supporting it is probably not good.  US Robotics/Megahertz was
bought a couple of years ago by 3Com, so you may be able to find some
information from their site at
http://www.3com.com/mobile/pccards/nj18000r.html.

3. You can get a copy of the HP 200LX User's Guide in Adobe Acrobat format
here:  http://www.hplx.net/david/lxpdf.zip.

Alan

>From: Nathan Olsen İmailto:nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM¨
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:14 PM
>...
>--My first priority is to establish file transferability between the
Palmtop
>and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable, and
>have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to swap
>files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?
>
>--Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and
"Infowave"
>program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far as
>wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
>still usable in today's wireless market?
>
>--Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX
and/or
>the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:26:22 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Subject: This is a hoot!
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:58:51 -0500

> >You have to call it to believe it....this is funny
> >
> >
> >This only takes 10 seconds...
> >
> >National Discount Brokers
> >1. dial 1-800-888-3999 (it's free)
> >2. listen to all of the options
> >3. after hearing #7, hit 7
> >
> >Every company should have an option #7.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:32:28 -0700
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Is anyone still working on the interchange between the HPLX and the Rex?

What is the current status?

I would sure like to load up my Rex from my Hp200LX.

Bob

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:59:49 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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              2000 11:32:28 PM
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Bob:

> Is anyone still working on the interchange between the HPLX and the Rex?

I am, albeit at a slow pace.  I made my last burst of progress during
a business trip to Hawaii.  Alas, I'm not scheduled to return until
December...

> What is the current status?
> I would sure like to load up my Rex from my Hp200LX.

However, the current software will work, although only on contact
and text notes data, and it has some annoying limitations.  It resets
all your preferences, the date/time.  It does not do appointments at
present (that's what I'm working on right now - amongst many other
projects).  Also note, it only works on REX3 and the transfer is
only one-way, from HP to REX (as makes sense with the read-only REX3).

You can download the latest version at

ftp://ftp.alphabetatech.com

It's a zip archive, select the latest one and give it a try.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:11:36 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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From:         Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Ulrich wrote:

> Do I do something wrong? Is my mail not readable?
> Or is there no interest in the topic WAP  + HPLX?
> Uli


Yes,to me there is,perhaps Avi can tell more.




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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:33:10 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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From:         "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Well, sorry.  It used to be there.  There had been some discussion of
whether distributing this file was in violation of HP's copyright and a
number of list members seemed to agree it probably was.  That may have led
to its removal.

Several other list members were offering to supply the manual to individuals
on request.

You can probably still buy a hardcopy manual from Thaddeus
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=manuals.
htm) for only US$15.00.  It's a pretty good book to have, along with PC In
Your Pocket
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=971799567.292/page=pciyp.h
tm) for US$19.95.

Alan

>From: Striegel, Alan İmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:32 AM
>...
3. You can get a copy of the HP 200LX User's Guide in Adobe Acrobat format
here:  http://www.hplx.net/david/lxpdf.zip.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:46:41 -0600
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              "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help
Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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Manuals, power supplies, and connectivity kits/cables often show up on eBay.
Just search for "200LX" in both the title and the description of auctions.
There was a manual a few days ago that sold for $8.00.

-----Original Message-----
From: Striegel, Alan İmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:33 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


Well, sorry.  It used to be there.  There had been some discussion of
whether distributing this file was in violation of HP's copyright and a
number of list members seemed to agree it probably was.  That may have led
to its removal.

Several other list members were offering to supply the manual to individuals
on request.

You can probably still buy a hardcopy manual from Thaddeus
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=manuals.
htm) for only US$15.00.  It's a pretty good book to have, along with PC In
Your Pocket
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=971799567.292/page=pciyp.h
tm) for US$19.95.

Alan

>From: Striegel, Alan İmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:32 AM
>...
3. You can get a copy of the HP 200LX User's Guide in Adobe Acrobat format
here:  http://www.hplx.net/david/lxpdf.zip.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:58:12 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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> PC In Your Pocket

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=971799567.292/page=pciyp.ht
m ) for US$19.95.

Is this book still relevent today - does it cover software no longer
available? Any additional information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:07:15 -0400
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Welcome to the LX cult!   I do hope you keep us informed about what you find
out with the Megahertz All Points wireless card. The card is still sold but
I don't see anyone offering it for use with the Palmtop in the U.S. A while
back a fellow list member directed me to their provider, but that was in
either Hong Kong or Taiwan. It used to be offered here in the U.S. for the
Palmtop. I have written (emailed) the people who still offer such cards,
about 200 LX support and never got an answer. I assume the issue is drivers,
but since it used to be offered here for the 200LX and since it is currently
offered in Asia I would think the drivers should exist and it would still
work. I would certainly like to find out.


As to Transfile, I use it often and never have had any problems with it
though yes it does over-write the date-time stamp on files you transfer.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
Nathan Olsen
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:14 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: 200LX newbie: Request for help


Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon, USA.
Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found an
HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.  After putting
in fresh main and backup batteries, much to my delight I found the unit to
be fully functional.  I did a quick internet search and came across a number
of websites indicating that the 200LX has a well deserved cult following,
and is actually quite an excellent device regardless of age.

Also unearthed along with the 200LX was a US Robotics Megahertz "All Points"
wireless PC card, with detachable telescoping and flexible antennaes.  The
bubble wrap packaging containing the modem card indicated that "the modem
has been configured to disable charging, and will not drain the Palmtop
battery."  Included with the modem card was a PC card labeled "Zap-It For
Windows," which appeared to have a program called "Infowave."  I'm pretty
much a dummy when it comes to DOS, but I was able to install the Infowave
program on the 200LX.  So here are a few questions:

--My first priority is to establish file transferability between the Palmtop
and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable, and
have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to swap
files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?

--Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and "Infowave"
program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far as
wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
still usable in today's wireless market?

--Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX and/or
the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?

My apologies for such a lengthy message.  Given what I've come across on the
internet regarding the viability of the HP 200LX, consider me an instant
convert!  I'm looking forward to exploring the possibilities of this device,
and wishing I'd checked behind my desk last year, before I bought my PDA!  I
would welcome and appreciate any and all guidance that you might see fit to
provide.  Thank you for your time and attention.

Nathan Olsen
nolsen@rockey-portland.com

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:18:24 -0500
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              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I will have an extra manual shortly.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Hansen" <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> > PC In Your Pocket
>
>
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=971799567.292/page=pciyp.ht
> m ) for US$19.95.
>
> Is this book still relevent today - does it cover software no longer
> available? Any additional information would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:49:46 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: HELP: Dead 100lx :(
Comments: To: Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
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I used to use the HP supplied power supply to charge my batteries in my
200LX. One day I came to find it making a buzzing noise after leaving it
charging and it would not work right after that. I'm convinced that charging
batteries in (some) 200LX's may be a problem. It causees the unit to heat up
somewhat and that probably lowers the lifespan of some components. There are
others on this list (with lots more knowledge of these things than I) that
probably disagree.

I decided to use alkaline batteries when I got my repaired unit back and
have never had a circuit related problem since.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Pitman İmailto:tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU¨
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:00 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: İHPLX-L¨ HELP: Dead 100lx :(
>
>
>My 100lx, after working wonderfully for 3 years, appears to
>have died.  Last
>time it was working, it was charging NiCad batteries.  The
>charger being
>used was a 14V plug pack, which I think is what may have
>killed it, being
>above the recommended 12V.
>
>I took the batteries out for a few days, put them back in, but still no
>luck.  I even pulled the unit appart and put it back together,
>though still
>nothing.  This is a 2Mb 100lx, with a Times 2 Tech double
>speed upgrade that
>I added almost 2 years ago.
>
>Any help in getting this operational would be greatly
>appreciated!  This
>unit is definitely the most useful handheld device that I have
>ever owned,
>and I dont want to have to go to the trouble of finding a replacement
>100/200lx if at all possible
>
>Tim Pitman
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:52:58 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: JAM Volume on Times2 Tech 32MB Drive
Comments: To: Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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I came into this dicussion late so you may have tried this:

I know that the T2T disk is actually drive F: at bootup after loading the
driver. You have to run the drive swap program after that make it drive C:.
Have you tried leaving your unit as a drive F: ?



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yves Leurquin İmailto:leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM¨
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:24 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ JAM Volume on Times2 Tech 32MB Drive
>
>
>Russell,
>
>> 1)  copy existing jam file, say one.jam from Flashcard to 32
>MB partition
>> and see if you can manually mount it.
>
>> 2)  Make a small, Maybe 500k jam disk on C: and see if you
>can copy/mount
>> that on the 32MB drive
>
>Thanks for your continuous support. I have tried both of your
>suggestion and
>while I can copy or create a JAM volume on the C: drive, I am
>still unable to
>mount it and keep getting the same error message.
>
>I hope Mack can shed some light on the possible interactions
>between the T2T
>RAM driver and JAM.
>
>Regards,
>
> \/
> /ves
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:53:44 -0700
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              Nathan Olsen <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
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Hi, Phil--  I share your not altogether misguided sense of duty, and had
already checked this out with the person previously occupying my office
space.  Apparently the palmtop was purchased for use by a former client some
years back, and was no longer needed.  I was told that if I could make it
work, I was welcome to it.  Not a bad deal.  Is your estimation of that
being a $2,000 value an accurate one?  As previously mentioned, I'm very new
to this particular area of gadgetry, and I'd be interested in finding out
current pricing info.

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Naunton <PNaunton@AOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> In a message dated 16-10-2000 4:25:02 PM CST, nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM
> writes:
>
> << Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon,
USA.
>  Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found
an
>  HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.  >>
>
>        Maybe it is just my misguided sense of duty, but doesn't it make
some
> sense to find out who lost what seems to be $2,000 worth of computer
> equipment. At least before you lay claim to it? But, then, perhaps you
have
> already done that.
>
> Phil N.
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:12:01 -0400
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Hi,

$2000 is bit much. It's actually worth from $350-400. Check the links for
ebay auctions below and see where the prices end up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=464759518
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=464759518

These guys also sell the units brand new and reconditioned:


http://www.palmtoppaper.com


If yours is absolutely mint with boxes manuals, etc. you may get $450-500.


It's a really nice device. Mine has been expanded to 32MB and I have 150MB
sandisk card I use with it. It's amazing all the things you can do with it.
It will run any DOS software that would run on an IBM XT. I run an old copy
of Excel/Windows and Foxpro as well as other useful old software.

The only shortcomings are because of recent technologies not being
supported. There is no backlighting and no (perfect) outlook sync. It would
also be nice if a pointing device and an easy wireless internet solution
were available.

I have tried migrating to a Windows CE and Palm devices but have always
found the need to keep my hp200lx with me.

BTW: The HPLX-L mailing list is also a great part of owning the palmtop.
It's my favorite on-line community. I've been a part of the list for almost
4 years now..... sheeesh!  :-/ I gotta get out more often.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nathan Olsen İmailto:nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:54 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ 200LX newbie: Request for help
>
>
>Hi, Phil--  I share your not altogether misguided sense of
>duty, and had
>already checked this out with the person previously occupying my office
>space.  Apparently the palmtop was purchased for use by a
>former client some
>years back, and was no longer needed.  I was told that if I
>could make it
>work, I was welcome to it.  Not a bad deal.  Is your estimation of that
>being a $2,000 value an accurate one?  As previously
>mentioned, I'm very new
>to this particular area of gadgetry, and I'd be interested in
>finding out
>current pricing info.
>
>Nathan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Phil Naunton <PNaunton@AOL.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help
>
>
>> In a message dated 16-10-2000 4:25:02 PM CST,
>nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM
>> writes:
>>
>> << Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in
>Portland, Oregon,
>USA.
>>  Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my
>office, and found
>an
>>  HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.  >>
>>
>>        Maybe it is just my misguided sense of duty, but
>doesn't it make
>some
>> sense to find out who lost what seems to be $2,000 worth of computer
>> equipment. At least before you lay claim to it? But, then,
>perhaps you
>have
>> already done that.
>>
>> Phil N.
>>
>> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:18:17 -0700
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Olsen" <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
> > Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and
found
> an
> > HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.

> Is there a name on the top card when you turn the machine on?  Could that
> person have lost it?


Unfortunately, the main and backup batteries appeared to have run dry, as
the unit would not power on.  I replaced both batteries, and upon powering
up the 200LX I received the standard "enter your name, title, company,
current time/date" instructions.

>
>
> > --My first priority is to establish file transferability between the
> Palmtop
> > and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable,
and
> > have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to
> swap
> > files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?


> I haven't had any luck with Transfile...contact http://www.thaddeus.com
and
> get a connectivity pack.  On most of my pcs I have been unable to use
> transfile because the hp200lx goes in on the same port as the mouse and
you
> need a mouse to use transfile.
>

Hmm...  Aren't there a couple of com ports on most PCs? (I believe the one
I'm using at work has two)  I'll have to look into that.

>
> >
> > --Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and
> "Infowave"
> > program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far
as
> > wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
> > still usable in today's wireless market?

> Don't know...never used it.
>
>
> >
> > --Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX
> and/or
> > the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?


> 200lx books can be obtained from http://www.thaddeus.com.  Maybe us
robotics
> can help with the card,
>
>
> Good luck and welcome to the endless possibilities of the 200lx.


Thanks very much for the insight, Ken!

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:23:57 -0700
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www.palmtoppaper.com was one of the first sites I came across, along with
palmtop.net, hplx.net, and the Palmtop Web Ring.  It appears that the HP
LX's are not suffering from lack of an internet presence!  Thanks for the
information, Ed.  Greatly appreciated!

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Keefe <emkeefe@uswest.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Nathan Olsen
<nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> If you haven't found the site www.palmtoppaper.com already, please take a
> look. You'll find what's available for sale, the latest word on
> synchronizing the Ptop with a desktop (in the What's New) section) and all
> past issues of the HP Palmtop Paper. The '93 through '00 issues will give
> you an idea of what you've been missing. Also there are Users Guides for
> sale in the Ultimate Store.
>
> Others may have more to offer on the wireless card that you found.
>
> .ed.İPTP¨
>

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:27:54 -0700
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No fairy tale here, but it is sounding like I lucked out with this
discovery!  Thanks for the information, Gunther.  I'll be sure to check i=
t
out.

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: G=FCnther Eisele <guenther.eisele@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


Hoi,

17.10.2000, 12:51, Nathan Olsen wrote:

> Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon,
USA.
> Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and fou=
nd
an
> HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.

This sound like a really cool fairy tale - I think everyone in this list
dreams about finding a working 200LX somewhere on the loft....

My suggestion is, in addition to the other hints, to look at ebay.com if
you need additional cables, flash cards etc.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:33:13 -0700
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Hi, Alan--  Thanks so much for the comprehensive insight and information.
I'll be sure to look into the LapLink capabilities, along with the other
excellent points that you mentioned.

Not even one day on this list, and it's already showing itself to be
populated by some of the most intelligent and responsive folks I've had the
pleasure of interacting with on an email list.  Thanks very much, everybody!

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: Striegel, Alan <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> 1. TransFile Win has some serious limitations.  You will need some form of
> backup and while TransFile has a method for creating a monolithic copy of
> everything in the palmtop, you cannot restore just a single file from
these
> sorts of backups.  It is possible to use TransFile to copy files as
> individuals, but the date and time of creation get destroyed and replaced
> with the time of transfer.
>
> It is better to use the Connectivity Kit or the 200LX's built-in LapLink
> Remote Access (LLRA) along with other file management utilities, such as
> Xtree.  For some guidance on setting up LLRA without having to buy a
> separate copy, see http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/LLRA.TXT.
>
> 2. Sorry, I don't have much information on the use of the AllPoints radio
> modem or Infowave software.
>
> Infowave is still in business and offers wireless services, but whether
they
> still support anything on the HPLX is undetermined -- they seem to be
> heavily into WAP stuff now.  Have a look at http://www.infowave.com or
call
> them at 1-800-463-6928.
>
> The Megahertz AllPoints Wireless PC Card may have been discontinued, as I
> could find no references to it newer than 1997.  What that means as far as
> providers supporting it is probably not good.  US Robotics/Megahertz was
> bought a couple of years ago by 3Com, so you may be able to find some
> information from their site at
> http://www.3com.com/mobile/pccards/nj18000r.html.
>
> 3. You can get a copy of the HP 200LX User's Guide in Adobe Acrobat format
> here:  http://www.hplx.net/david/lxpdf.zip.
>
> Alan
>
> >From: Nathan Olsen İmailto:nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM¨
> >Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:14 PM
> >...
> >--My first priority is to establish file transferability between the
> Palmtop
> >and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable, and
> >have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to
swap
> >files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?
> >
> >--Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and
> "Infowave"
> >program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far
as
> >wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
> >still usable in today's wireless market?
> >
> >--Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX
> and/or
> >the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?
>
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Thanks, Robert.  I'll be sure to give eBay a visit.  Much obliged!

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> Manuals, power supplies, and connectivity kits/cables often show up on
eBay.
> Just search for "200LX" in both the title and the description of auctions.
> There was a manual a few days ago that sold for $8.00.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Striegel, Alan İmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:33 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help
>
>
> Well, sorry.  It used to be there.  There had been some discussion of
> whether distributing this file was in violation of HP's copyright and a
> number of list members seemed to agree it probably was.  That may have led
> to its removal.
>
> Several other list members were offering to supply the manual to
individuals
> on request.
>
> You can probably still buy a hardcopy manual from Thaddeus
>
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=manuals.
> htm) for only US$15.00.  It's a pretty good book to have, along with PC In
> Your Pocket
>
(http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=971799567.292/page=pciyp.h
> tm) for US$19.95.
>
> Alan
>
> >From: Striegel, Alan İmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:32 AM
> >...
> 3. You can get a copy of the HP 200LX User's Guide in Adobe Acrobat format
> here:  http://www.hplx.net/david/lxpdf.zip.
>
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Hi, Jim, and thanks for the perspective.  If I happen to find anything that
supplements the information you've provided on the Megahertz card's
usability, I'll be sure to pass it along to you.

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: James Henry <jhenry@comcastbusiness.com>
To: 'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; 'Nathan Olsen'
<nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> Welcome to the LX cult!   I do hope you keep us informed about what you
find
> out with the Megahertz All Points wireless card. The card is still sold
but
> I don't see anyone offering it for use with the Palmtop in the U.S. A
while
> back a fellow list member directed me to their provider, but that was in
> either Hong Kong or Taiwan. It used to be offered here in the U.S. for the
> Palmtop. I have written (emailed) the people who still offer such cards,
> about 200 LX support and never got an answer. I assume the issue is
drivers,
> but since it used to be offered here for the 200LX and since it is
currently
> offered in Asia I would think the drivers should exist and it would still
> work. I would certainly like to find out.
>
>
> As to Transfile, I use it often and never have had any problems with it
> though yes it does over-write the date-time stamp on files you transfer.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Nathan Olsen
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:14 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 200LX newbie: Request for help
>
>
> Greetings--  I work for a public relations agency in Portland, Oregon,
USA.
> Just last week I was doing a bit of housecleaning in my office, and found
an
> HP 200LX (2MB version) in pristine condition behind my desk.  After
putting
> in fresh main and backup batteries, much to my delight I found the unit to
> be fully functional.  I did a quick internet search and came across a
number
> of websites indicating that the 200LX has a well deserved cult following,
> and is actually quite an excellent device regardless of age.
>
> Also unearthed along with the 200LX was a US Robotics Megahertz "All
Points"
> wireless PC card, with detachable telescoping and flexible antennaes.  The
> bubble wrap packaging containing the modem card indicated that "the modem
> has been configured to disable charging, and will not drain the Palmtop
> battery."  Included with the modem card was a PC card labeled "Zap-It For
> Windows," which appeared to have a program called "Infowave."  I'm pretty
> much a dummy when it comes to DOS, but I was able to install the Infowave
> program on the 200LX.  So here are a few questions:
>
> --My first priority is to establish file transferability between the
Palmtop
> and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial cable, and
> have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being able to
swap
> files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?
>
> --Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and
"Infowave"
> program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far as
> wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
> still usable in today's wireless market?
>
> --Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the 200LX
and/or
> the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?
>
> My apologies for such a lengthy message.  Given what I've come across on
the
> internet regarding the viability of the HP 200LX, consider me an instant
> convert!  I'm looking forward to exploring the possibilities of this
device,
> and wishing I'd checked behind my desk last year, before I bought my PDA!
I
> would welcome and appreciate any and all guidance that you might see fit
to
> provide.  Thank you for your time and attention.
>
> Nathan Olsen
> nolsen@rockey-portland.com
>
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... when it actually is. Can't seem to be able to run QSync as a result.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:00:35 -0500
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Nathan Olsen wrote:

> Not even one day on this list, and it's already showing itself to be
> populated by some of the most intelligent and responsive folks I've had the
> pleasure of interacting with on an email list.  Thanks very much, everybody!


Welcome aboard, Nathan.  It *is* a terrific list.


Alan  Striegel <Striegel@PIOS.COM> wrote:

> > It is better to use the Connectivity Kit or the 200LX's built-in LapLink
> > Remote Access (LLRA) along with other file management utilities, such as
> > Xtree.  For some guidance on setting up LLRA without having to buy a
> > separate copy, see http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/LLRA.TXT.

I've been very satisfied with the HP Connectivity Pack.  Other options
include ZIP (available from SUPER--not the compression software) with
the HP serial cable, and the Accton 2216-1 ethernet card, if you have
access to a LAN.

Ted

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Ed Padin wrote:

> The only shortcomings are because of recent technologies not being
> supported. There is no backlighting and no (perfect) outlook sync. It would
> also be nice if a pointing device and an easy wireless internet solution
> were available.

The StarTAC 7868 with connectivity kit is a pretty easy wireless
solution (assuming the cable is functional!).


> BTW: The HPLX-L mailing list is also a great part of owning the palmtop.
> It's my favorite on-line community.

Absolutely!  I get more laughs from rec.bicycles.racing, but this
group is by far the most rewarding.

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:06:46 -0700
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Hi, Ed--  I see what you mean about the list being an excellent online
community.  Everyone has been very helpful after I've stumbled on here like
a blithering idiot and basically said- "I found this neato palmtop gizmo,
how do I use it?"

Regarding condition, this particular 200LX's physical condition appears to
be in the category of "straight from the factory."  Perfect screen quality,
keyboard works great, and no evidence of this hinge crack that I'm starting
to read about on several of the palmtop websites.  So my palmtop appears to
be mint, yes, but without any original packaging, manuals, or power adaptor.
At this point I'd like to get myself up to speed on how to take full
advantage of this device, as opposed to simply hocking it for money.

This is my first experience with a portable PC, apart from using the
occasional laptop.  Once I'm able to get the 200LX to interface with my
office PC, it will definitely occupy a permanent place in my pocket or
briefcase.  The PDA I currently use is a Motorola StarTAC clip-on organizer.
While it enjoys excellent synchronization capabilities and the ability to
interact with my cell phone, its overall utility is definitely eclipsed by
the much older HP 200LX.

Thanks for the reply and excellent information.

 Nathan

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Padin <epadin@wagweb.com>
> To: 'Nathan Olsen' <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>; 'HPLX Mailing List'
> <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:12 AM
> Subject: RE: İHPLX-L¨ 200LX newbie: Request for help
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > $2000 is bit much. It's actually worth from $350-400. Check the links
for
> > ebay auctions below and see where the prices end up:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=464759518
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=464759518
> >
> > These guys also sell the units brand new and reconditioned:
> >
> >
> > http://www.palmtoppaper.com
> >
> >
> > If yours is absolutely mint with boxes manuals, etc. you may get
$450-500.
> >
> >
> > It's a really nice device. Mine has been expanded to 32MB and I have
150MB
> > sandisk card I use with it. It's amazing all the things you can do with
> it.
> > It will run any DOS software that would run on an IBM XT. I run an old
> copy
> > of Excel/Windows and Foxpro as well as other useful old software.
> >
> > The only shortcomings are because of recent technologies not being
> > supported. There is no backlighting and no (perfect) outlook sync. It
> would
> > also be nice if a pointing device and an easy wireless internet solution
> > were available.
> >
> > I have tried migrating to a Windows CE and Palm devices but have always
> > found the need to keep my hp200lx with me.
> >
> > BTW: The HPLX-L mailing list is also a great part of owning the palmtop.
> > It's my favorite on-line community. I've been a part of the list for
> almost
> > 4 years now..... sheeesh!  :-/ I gotta get out more often.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:56:23 -0500
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>> the life on earth seems to become more and more complex.
>
> does it?
>
>> From sulfurbacterias to the brain of homo sapiens.
>
> and from DOS to Windows CE?

You might find Telhard de Chardin's "Phenomenon of Man" interesting
in this light.  He see's the entire universe becoming more complex
and more organized.  He gives examples on many levels:
astronomical, history of civilization, etc.  He expects that it will
eventually reach the point where the entire universe is a single,
very complex entity.  That will be God.  He says we're part of the
process of God creating himself.

Fun reading.  I doubt if it's available in etext.  :)

He also predicted Windows CE as early as 1955.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:03:41 -0500
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> I just bought a Kodak DC215 digital camera
> and found out to my horror that the compact
> flash (CF) 4mb memory card that came with
> the camera was not compatible with my
> HP200LX.  I could have sworn I saw past posts
> that some list members do have a working
> setup with these two combination.  Could
> someone help me?  Am I missing some drivers?

I have a Kodak DC280 and the compact flash card that came with it
not only works on the 200lx, but it's formatted the same and I can
read and write to it with the 200lx.  I don't have any reason to do
this but I tried it when I got it just so I'd know the possibilites.

I do need the compact flash to PCMCIA adapter but I'm sure you
already figured that out.

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> The Megahertz AllPoints Wireless PC Card
> may have been discontinued, as I could find
> no references to it newer than 1997.  What
> that means as far as providers supporting
> it is probably not good.

I called 3Com a few months ago to see about drivers for the 14.4
modem I bought for $10 from someone on a newsgroup.  The guy I
talked to had full information and was willing to share it.  My
impression was that they take support of that older stuff very
seriously.

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> Hi, Ed--  I see what you mean about the
> list being an excellent online community.
>  Everyone has been very helpful after I've
> stumbled on here like a blithering idiot and
> basically said- "I found this neato palmtop
> gizmo, how do I use it?"

We're not really all that nice but we've never been called a "cult"
before and I think we're basking in the recognition.  :)

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If anyone is interested, a gentleman I spoke with today has an Earthmate GPs
and Street Atlas 6.x for sale for $100. His name is Jarod and his email
address is jtoups@coair.com The GPS unit is extremely handy with a laptop
and for APRS and it plugs into a serial port.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:41:39 -0700
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              Nathan Olsen <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
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So I need to obtain a driver before this Megahertz card I have can be used?
Is that something that might be on the PC card I found along with the
Megahertz wireless modem?  Looking at my A drive in the Palmtop's Filer, I
can find the following files on this card:
apname    lst
mips        exe
sh3          exe
zap-it~1    mip
zap-it~1    sh3
zap-it~2    mip
zap-it~2    sh3

Also on the card is a directory entitled HP01i which contains:
address    ini
folders    ini
hp_001    zip
infowave    exm
infowave    icn
infowave    ini
install    com
strings    ini

So far I've clicked on the "install" file and subsequently installed a
wireless email program called Infowave 1.0, which apparently is configured
to interact with the Megahertz radio modem that I found along with the
200LX.  Now bear in mind, I'm starting from scratch in terms of palmtop
working knowledge... But do any of the above file names point towards a way
of utilizing the Megahertz wireless modem card?

----- Original Message -----
From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:17 PM
Subject: Megahertz support


> > The Megahertz AllPoints Wireless PC Card
> > may have been discontinued, as I could find
> > no references to it newer than 1997.  What
> > that means as far as providers supporting
> > it is probably not good.
>
> I called 3Com a few months ago to see about drivers for the 14.4
> modem I bought for $10 from someone on a newsgroup.  The guy I
> talked to had full information and was willing to share it.  My
> impression was that they take support of that older stuff very
> seriously.
>
> Barry

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:34:59 -0500
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Would strongly suggest that you concentrate on the LX without the
wireless card until you are at home with the unit.  I would suggest that
you start with a Compact Flash storage card and a PCMCIA adapter and hit
the SUPER site with an RC and Moon Pie to keep you nourished as you
browse the offerings there.

The wireless card will serve you better in a laptop.

In general the LX will run any program that does not require extended
memory (and I would avoid programs that require expanded memory)

Replace the batteries with NiMH units and set SysMgr/System/Batteries to
NiCads and enable charging. (Start with a fully charged pair)

Then come back here for help with each question... and be careful not to
drop the unit... and a prayer to whomever for your luck.

--
Hope this Helps...
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:53:28 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:36 PM
Subject: Friendly cult


> > Hi, Ed--  I see what you mean about the
> > list being an excellent online community.
> >  Everyone has been very helpful after I've
> > stumbled on here like a blithering idiot and
> > basically said- "I found this neato palmtop
> > gizmo, how do I use it?"

>
> We're not really all that nice but we've never been called a "cult"
> before and I think we're basking in the recognition.  :)
>
> Barry


Hmm, a cult, eh?  Does this mean I have to shave my head and wear some
orange robes?  I may have to reconsider this whole thing...

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:23:04 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
didn't work (reliably or at all?) in Windows.  I tried it on
Windows 3.1 years and years ago but couldn't get it to work and
confess I haven't tried it in Win95 or Win98.  Sounds like some
palmtoppers have managed to get it to work.  Any tips anyone would
like to share?
Cheers
Tony.

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Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2000 02:32
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Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


1. TransFile Win has some serious limitations.  You will need some
form of
backup and while TransFile has a method for creating a monolithic
copy of
everything in the palmtop, you cannot restore just a single file
from these
sorts of backups.  It is possible to use TransFile to copy files
as
individuals, but the date and time of creation get destroyed and
replaced
with the time of transfer.

It is better to use the Connectivity Kit or the 200LX's built-in
LapLink
Remote Access (LLRA) along with other file management utilities,
such as
Xtree.  For some guidance on setting up LLRA without having to buy
a
separate copy, see http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/LLRA.TXT.

2. Sorry, I don't have much information on the use of the
AllPoints radio
modem or Infowave software.

Infowave is still in business and offers wireless services, but
whether they
still support anything on the HPLX is undetermined -- they seem to
be
heavily into WAP stuff now.  Have a look at
http://www.infowave.com or call
them at 1-800-463-6928.

The Megahertz AllPoints Wireless PC Card may have been
discontinued, as I
could find no references to it newer than 1997.  What that means
as far as
providers supporting it is probably not good.  US
Robotics/Megahertz was
bought a couple of years ago by 3Com, so you may be able to find
some
information from their site at
http://www.3com.com/mobile/pccards/nj18000r.html.

3. You can get a copy of the HP 200LX User's Guide in Adobe
Acrobat format
here:  http://www.hplx.net/david/lxpdf.zip.

Alan

>From: Nathan Olsen İmailto:nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM¨
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:14 PM
>...
>--My first priority is to establish file transferability between
the
Palmtop
>and my office PC.  I'm currently hunting down the right serial
cable, and
>have downloaded a program called "TransFile."  As far as being
able to swap
>files between the 200LX and my PC, am I on the right track?
>
>--Secondly, given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and
"Infowave"
>program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options
as far as
>wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or
software
>still usable in today's wireless market?
>
>--Finally, can you point me towards user guides/manuals for the
200LX
and/or
>the US Robotics Megahertz wireless PC card?

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I have 1 used copy of Automap Road Atlas 2.02 For Sale. Program comes on 3 1/2"
720K floppies and includes the manual.

Asking $25.00 which includes shipping within the continental United States.

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I have 1 used copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0 For Sale. On 3 1/2"
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Asking $15.00 which includes shipping within the continental United States.

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I have 1 used copy of Fifth Generation Systems Direct Access 5.1 Menu
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> This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
> didn't work (reliably or at all?) in Windows.  I tried it on
> Windows 3.1 years and years ago but couldn't get it to work and

I've been using it for years in Win 95, 98 and NT (although we had
some intermittent, unexplicable problems in NT, it was for the most
part quite reliable).  Just try to run the program as you would
any other DOS program that needs the COM port.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:14:34 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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I don't know anything about that card.  I didn't even know they
existed.  I was only explaining that my experience with 3Com with an
old Megahertz product was good and it might be worthwhile to call
them.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Olsen" <nolsen@rockey-portland.com>
To: "HPLX List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Megahertz support


> So I need to obtain a driver before this Megahertz card I have can
be used?
> Is that something that might be on the PC card I found along with
the
> Megahertz wireless modem?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Olsen" <nolsen@rockey-portland.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Friendly cult
>

> Hmm, a cult, eh?  Does this mean I have to shave my head and wear
some
> orange robes?  I may have to reconsider this whole thing...

Wearing a pocket protector is adaquate.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:19:50 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Tony Kan wrote:

> This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
> didn't work (reliably or at all?) in Windows.  I tried it on
> Windows 3.1 years and years ago but couldn't get it to work and
> confess I haven't tried it in Win95 or Win98.  Sounds like some
> palmtoppers have managed to get it to work.  Any tips anyone would
> like to share?

I've used CPack on my work desktop for 3 years--about half Win 3.1
and half Win 95.  Under Program, Properties, Advanced Program Options
I have the first two options selected (Prevent MS-DOS-based programs
from detecting Windows & Suggest MS-DOS mode as necessary) and the
third not selected (MS-DOS mode).

It will occasionally lock up (what Windows machine doesn't?), but
it seems to happen primarily when I exit Filer and CPack in rapid
succession.  If I pause after exiting Filer (long enough for the
system time to be displayed in the upper right corner), I don't
usually have a problem.

Hope that helps!  :)

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:32:47 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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From:         Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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Geez - he found a flash card as well! 8¬0

Unbelievable...

Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Olsen" <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Megahertz support


> So I need to obtain a driver before this Megahertz card I have can be
used?
> Is that something that might be on the PC card I found along with the
> Megahertz wireless modem?  Looking at my A drive in the Palmtop's Filer, I
> can find the following files on this card:
> apname    lst
> mips        exe
> sh3          exe
> zap-it~1    mip
> zap-it~1    sh3
> zap-it~2    mip
> zap-it~2    sh3
>
> Also on the card is a directory entitled HP01i which contains:
> address    ini
> folders    ini
> hp_001    zip
> infowave    exm
> infowave    icn
> infowave    ini
> install    com
> strings    ini
>
> So far I've clicked on the "install" file and subsequently installed a
> wireless email program called Infowave 1.0, which apparently is configured
> to interact with the Megahertz radio modem that I found along with the
> 200LX.  Now bear in mind, I'm starting from scratch in terms of palmtop
> working knowledge... But do any of the above file names point towards a
way
> of utilizing the Megahertz wireless modem card?

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:50:16 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I've seen these cards before. They're green with an external battery pack
that lookslike it holds AA or AAA batteries. It also has a telescoping
antenna. I think that Thaddeus used to sell them but stopped because there
is no longer a supported network for them. I thnk that the card is basically
worthless on the HPLX but may be usable on Windows CE devices or laptops.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nathan Olsen İmailto:nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:42 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: İHPLX-L¨ Megahertz support
>
>
>So I need to obtain a driver before this Megahertz card I have
>can be used?
>Is that something that might be on the PC card I found along with the
>Megahertz wireless modem?  Looking at my A drive in the
>Palmtop's Filer, I
>can find the following files on this card:
>apname    lst
>mips        exe
>sh3          exe
>zap-it~1    mip
>zap-it~1    sh3
>zap-it~2    mip
>zap-it~2    sh3
>
>Also on the card is a directory entitled HP01i which contains:
>address    ini
>folders    ini
>hp_001    zip
>infowave    exm
>infowave    icn
>infowave    ini
>install    com
>strings    ini
>
>So far I've clicked on the "install" file and subsequently installed a
>wireless email program called Infowave 1.0, which apparently
>is configured
>to interact with the Megahertz radio modem that I found along with the
>200LX.  Now bear in mind, I'm starting from scratch in terms of palmtop
>working knowledge... But do any of the above file names point
>towards a way
>of utilizing the Megahertz wireless modem card?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:17 PM
>Subject: Megahertz support
>
>
>> > The Megahertz AllPoints Wireless PC Card
>> > may have been discontinued, as I could find
>> > no references to it newer than 1997.  What
>> > that means as far as providers supporting
>> > it is probably not good.
>>
>> I called 3Com a few months ago to see about drivers for the 14.4
>> modem I bought for $10 from someone on a newsgroup.  The guy I
>> talked to had full information and was willing to share it.  My
>> impression was that they take support of that older stuff very
>> seriously.
>>
>> Barry
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:56:03 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<www.palmtoppaper.com was one of the first sites I came across, along with
palmtop.net, hplx.net, and the Palmtop Web Ring.  It appears that the HP
LX's are not suffering from lack of an internet presence!  Thanks for the
information, Ed.  Greatly appreciated!>>

Ed didn't bother telling you he is the webmaster of www.palmtoppaper.com
<g>.

I am not exactly unbiased either!

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
www.PalmtopPaper.com
www.PocketPCmag.com

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:41:44 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Olsen" <nolsen@rockey-portland.com>
To: "Ken" <KenLondon@beld.net>; "HPLX Mailing List"
<HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Hmm...  Aren't there a couple of com ports on most PCs? (I believe the one
> I'm using at work has two)  I'll have to look into that.
Mine have two com ports...one for the modem and the other for the mouse.
The modems were internal and I wasn't going to remove them for this program.
When it came to a choice between the modem going and transfile going,
transfile went.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:47:04 EDT
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>>Hi,

 $2000 is bit much. It's actually worth from $350-400. Check the links for
 ebay auctions below and see where the prices end up:<<

          Now I know as well as you do that they cost this much today, what I
was imagining was how much someone paid for it when it was an over the
counter item.
A two meg 200lx unit went for close to a thousand, and the radio cards were
not exactly cheap at the time. This must have been some time ago, since the
batteries were all run down.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:03:35 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help
Comments: To: Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Just loaded up CPack again and tried out your settings.  Yeee
haaaa it works!  Strangely, I'm sure there seemed to be lots of
discussion about all sorts of complex settings relating to
different config.sys/autoexec.bat files back then.  Maybe it only
related to Laplink Remote.  Anyway, a huge thanks for the tip.  I
came so close to throwing it away when I last shifted flats.  Now
I can remove Transfile.
Cheers
Tony.

-----Original Message-----
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Of
Theodore Heise
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2000 10:20
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Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Tony Kan wrote:

> This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
> didn't work (reliably or at all?) in Windows.  I tried it on
> Windows 3.1 years and years ago but couldn't get it to work and
> confess I haven't tried it in Win95 or Win98.  Sounds like some
> palmtoppers have managed to get it to work.  Any tips anyone
would
> like to share?

I've used CPack on my work desktop for 3 years--about half Win 3.1
and half Win 95.  Under Program, Properties, Advanced Program
Options
I have the first two options selected (Prevent MS-DOS-based
programs
from detecting Windows & Suggest MS-DOS mode as necessary) and the
third not selected (MS-DOS mode).

It will occasionally lock up (what Windows machine doesn't?), but
it seems to happen primarily when I exit Filer and CPack in rapid
succession.  If I pause after exiting Filer (long enough for the
system time to be displayed in the upper right corner), I don't
usually have a problem.

Hope that helps!  :)

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:11:04 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Theodore Heise" <theise@NETINS.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Ed Padin wrote:
> > The only shortcomings are because of recent technologies not being
> > supported. There is no backlighting and no (perfect) outlook sync. It
would
> > also be nice if a pointing device and an easy wireless internet solution
> > were available.

The Hp200lx may not be perfect but it is far better than the junk they are
selling for Windows CE.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:20:51 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM>
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From:         Bill Schell <bill@BELL-LABS.COM>
Subject:      Re: conversion of HPLX note (ndb)  format to csv
Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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That worked great, thanks!  Much easier than the connectivity pack.
I had a bit of a problem importing the CSV file into another application
until I figured out it wanted the first CSV record to be a list of the
field names.  Then all was smooooth...

Thanks again,
    Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: conversion of HPLX note (ndb) format to csv


> So maybe you should just print the database into .CSV format.  You can do
> that quickly with the 200LX's NoteTaker application itself or from the
> Connectivity Pack's version.  For details, see my page on the subject at:
> http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/HPdbexport.txt.
>
> I just tried this with my notes database and it did take just about 5
> minutes for the whole thing.  If you have any questions on how to do this,
> just ask.
>
> Alan
>

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:20:08 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
> This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
> didn't work (reliably or at all?) in Windows.  I tried it on
> Windows 3.1 years and years ago but couldn't get it to work and
> confess I haven't tried it in Win95 or Win98.  Sounds like some
> palmtoppers have managed to get it to work.

I am successfully using the connectivity pack with Windows 98.  Hit start,
go to restart in ms-dos mode, and it will work.  It will not work in just
the dos prompt...you have to restart in dos mode.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:21:53 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Automap Road Atlas For Sale.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
Subject: Automap Road Atlas For Sale.
> I have 1 used copy of Automap Road Atlas 2.02 For Sale. Program comes on 3
1/2"
> 720K floppies and includes the manual.

That tells you how old and out of date this program is.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:10:14 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Fluff:  Former Prices  Was:  Re:      Re: 200LX newbie: Request
              for help
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Naunton" <PNaunton@AOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


>  $2000 is bit much. It's actually worth from $350-400. Check the links for
>  ebay auctions below and see where the prices end up:<<
>
>           Now I know as well as you do that they cost this much today,
what I
> was imagining was how much someone paid for it when it was an over the
> counter item.
> A two meg 200lx unit went for close to a thousand, and the radio cards
were
> not exactly cheap at the time. This must have been some time ago, since
the
> batteries were all run down.

Someone who looks at the prices an HP200LX can fetch today can easily assume
that they used to be as you say.    But the fact is, most people (including
myself)
who bought a 2meg HP200LX brand new some years ago paid about $450 (in
the USA).   In those good old days, a used 2meg HP200LX would go for about
$250 on Ebay.    Now everyone is in panic mode about getting one, hence the
high prices for a used one.

This proves two things:

1-HP made a BIG mistake in discontinuing this product.
2-We ARE a cult indeed.  :-)

Domingo

P.S  You could indeed buy several HP200LX for the prices PCMCIA cards used
to
command, but fortunately that has changed at lot.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:22:47 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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From:         Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Quick/LX: QSync says Quick does not seem to be installed...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fryday" <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:37 PM
Subject: Quick/LX: QSync says Quick does not seem to be installed...


> ... when it actually is. Can't seem to be able to run QSync as a result.
>
> Any ideas?

Is the file QUICK.DAT in C:\_DAT?  Are the other files in a directory in
your path?
If nothing else works, you could experiment with load order.

HTH,

Domingo

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:27:42 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Quick/LX: QSync says Quick does not seem to be installed...
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Yep, everything else works, except QSync...

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Domingo Diaz-V" <dvm123@gmx.co.uk>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Fryday"
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Quick/LX: QSync says Quick does not seem to be installed...


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fryday" <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:37 PM
> Subject: Quick/LX: QSync says Quick does not seem to be installed...
>
>
> > ... when it actually is. Can't seem to be able to run QSync as a result.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> Is the file QUICK.DAT in C:\_DAT?  Are the other files in a directory in
> your path?
> If nothing else works, you could experiment with load order.
>
> HTH,
>
> Domingo
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 01:54:29 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Nathalie asked me to inform folks that while Wordsmart will show an
"outdated version" message if run alone but that it still runs fine from
the command line if options are placed on that command line, so that you
can try it out.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 02:17:39 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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What's a connectivity pack worth?

I've got a manual, 3 diskettes and a serial cable that I'll sell if I
can price them.  (This isn't a complete pack as I'm not including the
cable adapters that come with a new pack.)

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:53:06 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Re: Megahertz support
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At 01:41 PM 10/17/00 -0700, Nathan Olsen wrote:
 >So I need to obtain a driver before this Megahertz card I have can be used?
 >Is that something that might be on the PC card I found along with the
 >Megahertz wireless modem?  Looking at my A drive in the Palmtop's Filer, I
 >can find the following files on this card:
 >apname    lst
 >mips        exe
 >sh3          exe
 >zap-it~1    mip
 >zap-it~1    sh3
 >zap-it~2    mip
 >zap-it~2    sh3
 >

 From your listing, the above files are for WinCE devices, while the
following are for the HP200LX.

Try installing infowave.exm in the 200LX's More Applications.

You will need to find a service provider for your Megahertz wireless modem.

 >Also on the card is a directory entitled HP01i which contains:
 >address    ini
 >folders    ini
 >hp_001    zip
 >infowave    exm
 >infowave    icn
 >infowave    ini
 >install    com
 >strings    ini
 >
 >So far I've clicked on the "install" file and subsequently installed a
 >wireless email program called Infowave 1.0, which apparently is configured
 >to interact with the Megahertz radio modem that I found along with the
 >200LX.  Now bear in mind, I'm starting from scratch in terms of palmtop
 >working knowledge... But do any of the above file names point towards a way
 >of utilizing the Megahertz wireless modem card?
 >

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Philippe,

> ... when it actually is. Can't seem to be able to run QSync as a =
result.

make a backup and reinstall. Check the cfg for peculiarities.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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> This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
> didn't work (reliably or at all?) in Windows.  I tried it on
> Windows 3.1 years and years ago but couldn't get it to work and
> confess I haven't tried it in Win95 or Win98.  Sounds like some
> palmtoppers have managed to get it to work.  Any tips anyone would
> like to share?

I have run it under Win95 and now under Win98.  I have its properties
set to Not detect Windows.  I have it run in a window.  Otherwise, I
guess I have it set as any other dos box.

Now, at this point I should admit, I have no idea if I may have tweaked
the original app200.bat file somewhere over the years.  I recall
something was needed to run it under Desqview all those years ago and
never quite succeeded.

And to emphasize, I do NOT have to quit Win98 and reboot to DOS mode.
It runs in a dos window under win98 and while other things are also
running.

Be aware, that per a recent discussion, the cpack will only display the
first 250 (+/-) files in a directory.  Usually not a problem on the hp
(but it could be) but maybe an issue if you move files from larger win98
subdirectories.  You can use the Filter function to try selecting
appropriately sized subsets of the files.


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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:09:27 -0500
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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
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Hi All.

A while back I mentioned I'd had some odd things happen w/ my LX.

Some of my "options" reset to the out of the box default.... Best example is
the "More Applications" screen went to the default order and I lost the
icons, shortcuts, etc. for things I had added. I imagine an .env file bit
the dust.

Well, some other things have been worse, but I waited 'til I could take a
moment to test them, before "hollering" to the group.

What could make Post/LX stop talking to ANY modem? <it's the new version,
and it worked fine for weeks>.

I've looked through the config. files, all seems OK. I've tried two internal
and one external.

I dug out my old ModemBlaster 14.4 PCMCIA card (thought my new, fast modem
might've died), and it wouldn't work. I *also* tried an external modem. I've
rebooted, looked at settings (COM1 in DOS is on, the "lock serial port" in
Buddy is *not* checked ... I believe I've been trying COM1 for the external
and COM2 for the internal).

The only reassuring thing is that I hear the old internal 14.4 "click," when
I turn the LX on and off. I took a lot of time testing the 56K modem (i.e.,
I went into the built in com. prog. and tried a lot of settings, made text
files that had initialization strings in them and copied them to the COM
port, etc. ... that used to work w/ old DOS computers, dunno if the LX would
work with that).

With the old 14.4, I've also tried Post/LX with its old, simpler
initialization string in Post/LX  (it didn't work) *AND* I've tried the
built-in COM program THAT worked(!). Got a connection to CompuServe and did
some text-based poking around (BTW, I thought that was all gone).

The 56K, from Thaddeus, was working fine, w/ Post/LX, 'til Labor Day
weekend,  That's how long it's taken me to dig out my other modem and
perform the "final" test. I didn't think I should email the group unless I
made the internal program work or fail w/ a simpler modem (some "brain
sweat" is mandatory, before approaching the brain trust).

Anyway, I've typed enough. Is there something simple I should check? What
are the "hard" things?

TIA for any help.

--tim

PS. Didn't load anything  or change settings, when I took it on vacation. It
worked in the morning and didn't work in the next morning, at a hotel (it
WAS an analog line ... they promised).

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:18:35 -0600
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From:         "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Back in the DOS days, I could not afford the commercial Bible programs.
A friend showed me Online Bible in 1988. I liked their philosophy, the
Word of God for free.

I do have some files of the first and last PC-Study Bible. The first was
a demo program with the book of John and the last are copies. I work at
a store where we sell PC Study Bible and have occasional contact with
BibleSoft. Had not really used QuickVerse until the "Defender" Bible in
version 4 came out.

Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
>
> Maybe someone can talk the company that makes QuickVerse into releasing the
> DOS
> versions for free.  :-)
>
> (I say versions, because I understand the last DOS version is significantly
> slower than the previous one.)
>
> Domingo

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It occurred to me to make this request on this list.

Christian Computing Magazine vol 4 no 11 advertised "Easy Verse" for
$29.95. It was the entire Bible fit on to a single 5-1/4" floppy. Does
anyone have a copy?

Does anyone have a KJV Bible, with our without engine that fits on a
1.2M or 1.44M floppy?

It's one of those things I would like to collect, like the Bible on the
head of a pin, etc. which I don't even have. Have to start somewhere.

I have given some thought to putting the Bible on a floppy. With all my
other projects, it will probably never get completed.

Bob
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:41:12 -0600
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It seems that with
 1) Several LX members contributing
 2) Flames not thrown
 3) Serious input
 4) The USA being founded on the Bible (flames please)
This IS NOT a FLUFF topic.

With "Bible" in the subject line, that should translate FLUFF to some.

Bob

Stephan Goeldi wrote:
>
> Would you please put a "FLUFF" in front of your Subject line?
> This is definitely not anymore on-topic. Of course, besides of bible
> programs a lot of other software runs on the LX. I run a religion-related
> software on the LX too and discussed about it OFF-LIST with somebody from
> the list. You cannot make this much noise about every hobby, only because it
> is manageable with the LX.
>
> >From: Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
> >Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:19:37 -0400
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Colin Thompson" <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
> >To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:23 PM
> >Subject: Re: Bible programs
> >
> >
> > > I believe PC Study Bible was around before Online Bible.
> >
> >The first version of the Online Bible came out in 1988.  Is PC study
> >Bible older than that?   Either way, I reread the OLB documentation,
> >and it is full of permissions to use stuff, so I don't think they
> >originated
> >much material.   But I understand that most Bible programs are compatible
> >with the OLB database, through the generosity of the author, Larry Pierce.
> >
> > >  BibleSoft pays a
> > > license fee for every copy of every text they use.  The KJV and ASV are
> >an
> > > exception because they are in public domain.
> >
> >I was refering to the reference materials, paper versions of which I have,
> >and
> >most of it is more than 100 years old.   I am not sure about the Jay green
> >stuff.   He took the Thayer material (public domain), and indexed it with
> >the Strongs
> >numbers (public domain).   Is the resulting material copyrighted?  I guess
> >it
> >might be, but Online Bible has permission to distribute for free.  I guess
> >since PC Study Bible costs an arm and a leg Jay Green would be less
> >generous with his materials (his MKJV is available for free for the Palm,
> >with
> >another freeware Bible program).
> >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > >
> > > Domingo Diaz-V
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you mean the text (which is public domain AFAIK, or the Online Bible
> > > indexed databases?
> > >
> > > I am surprised about that, considering that the PC Study Bible, when it
> >came
> > > out, could
> > > set you back about $400, with all the tools and versions included.
> > >
> > > Domingo
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> > > Subject: Re: Bible programs
> > >
> > >
> > > > PC Study Bible's Hebrew and Greek lexicons came from Online Bible.
> > > >
> > >
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Amen

Bob

Jeff wrote:
>
> No, you are an adult woman who know exactly what 'buttons to push' and the
> result of those pushed buttons.
>

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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:39:26 -0600
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If you have access to a desktop, install the program on drive C. You
will need to edit the created batch files to reference drive A instead
of C. Then transfer all to the LX.

I also choose the compression mode during install. This inserts the TSR
"diet.exe" into the batch files which expands compressed reference
material on the fly.

I have both OLB and Tom Hoover's HisWord which makes for easier reading
in many situations.

Bob

Tim wrote:
>
> Well,
>
> Since folks have ignored my non-religious related questions (tongue in
> cheek, but not grinning, I've had some serious questions go unanswered,
> buried in pseudo-flame), I've got a question about Bible programs on the LX.
>
> The LX-related parts of the fluff mentioned some nice, searchable, Bible
> programs, that RUN on other people's LX. I decided to download some of them,
> while the fights raged on .... it gave me something to do, while waiting for
> answers to my other questions.
>
> I spent quite a bit of time downloading the DOS version of "Online Bible"
> (the install program and many modules for it) and it won't install on my LX.
> The one I'm talking about was at: http://www.onlinebible.simplenet.com/
>
> Is this program too old to install w/o floppy disks? It's free, but I won't
> run out and put it on 10+ floppies AND buy a floppy drive for my LX to use
> the program.
>
> I tried putting all of the extracted files in the root directory of A:, and
> ran the "install.exe" it locks up my LX so hard that it won't respond to
> CTL-ALT-DEL (I can reset w/ CTL-LeftSHIFT-ON, but that's it). It doesn't get
> past showing that I hit enter, after typing "install".
>
> I undid (temporarily "REMed") Software Carousel and Buddy, to see if they
> might be causing a conflict and tried again. The only other things running
> are the times-2-tech drivers needed for the double-speed and memory upgrade
> (2X, 64MB).... That second bit does swap drives around, but it should be
> transparent to this program, no?
>
> I read the instructions, looked at "go.bat" which tells you how to put it on
> 8-million floppies, and it said to run "install.exe".... Is there something
> I missed?
>
> TIA,
>
> --ttr
>
> PS. Don't anyone flame me for being hacked off at the pseudo-flame war -- I
> blame it for keeping me from learning the answers to two questions.
>
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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:59:33 +0800
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Hi,

You might want to try the following:-

(1) create database template in HP palmtop

(2) use GDBDUMP to convert to text file, as in
        gdbdump myfile.gdb > myfile.csv
This will give you a file with database field headings.

(3) copy and paste only the data (line 2 onwards) from your CSV file into
myfile.csv (keeping the database field headings)

(4) use GDBLOAD to convert back to myfile.gdb, as in
        gdbload myfile.gdb myfile.csv

There should be no need to convert from Excel to Access first before
getting your CSV data file.

GDBLOAD requires that the date fields should appear in the format YYYYMMDD.

In Excel, you can use Format -> Cells -> Custom , and add yyyymmdd under
the Type box in order to format your dates to the required format.

At 12:55 PM 10/15/00 -0500, Tim wrote:
 >Been tinkering with loading pre-existing databases into my LX. I've never
 >used GDBLOAD before, but had used GDBDUMP often.
 >
 >I've exported a small (three record) database into a .CSV file in two ways
 >but have gotten the same error message, when trying to run GDBLOAD:
 >
 >" runtime error R6001
 >  - null pointer assignment "
 >
 >Is this because I have an invalid or improperly formatted field (or
 >character on a "don't use" list) or could I have corrupted the executable
 >utility (the gdbload.exe) during download?
 >
 >The two ways I created my Comma Separated file were:
 >
 >1) Exported directly from Excel.
 >2) Imported the Excel record into Access and then exported to a .CSV (seemed
 >to have more control over it this way).
 >
 >In both cases the first line contains the "field name".
 >
 >I went through the Access "Advanced Export" features and made the dates meet
 >the formatting required by the gdbload documentation (or so I think <grin>)
 >AND went back and tried again deleting the TIME field Access added to the
 >mix, when I imported from Excel İ"20001010" became "20001010 00000" ... well
 >actually, "10-OCT-00" became "10-October-2000 0:00:00" but I took out the
 >delimiters, within the field and made the date format YYYYMMDD, as I think
 >that's the way GDBLOAD "likes" it¨.
 >
 >What's the best way to get Microsoft database data into a 200LX database?
 >
 >Maybe there's a way besides GDBLOAD, that the LX-Gurus of the list use.
 >
 >TIA for any help.
 >
 >(awaiting enlightenment),
 >
 >--tim
 >

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Subject:      AW: DIS: HPLX + WAP?
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Sorry, I didn't know that it is not commonly known.
Because the WAP screen is so simple, I thought the WAP sites could be shown
very
easy.
Like a html page it is not very difficult to put up a wap site with PE.
But unlike HV it can't be shown on the HPLX.
May be interest will grow with growing spreading of WAP.
Any hint would be appreciated.
Uli

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Betreff: Re: DIS: HPLX + WAP?


On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:16:27 -0400, Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:

> What is WAP?????????

Wireless Application Protocol and most commonly used on internet enabled
phones.

Jeff

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Ed Padin wrote:

> I know that the T2T disk is actually drive F: at bootup after loading =
the
> driver. You have to run the drive swap program after that make it drive =
C:.
> Have you tried leaving your unit as a drive F: ?

Ed,

No I haven't yet tried that one. I was reluctant to do so as the F: drive =
has
always been reserved for the compressed JAM volume on my A: CFLASH card =
and
all applications are configured to use this drive letter.

Still this might be the solution as I can understand that JAM does not =
like
to mount a volume on a swapped drive. I will backup my HP and give a try =
to
your suggestion ASAP.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:32:29 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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Subject:      Re: Automap Road Atlas For Sale.
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> > I have 1 used copy of Automap Road Atlas 2.02 For Sale. Program comes on 3
> 1/2" 720K floppies and includes the manual.
>
> That tells you how old and out of date this program is.

Perhaps, but it is indeed a quite useful program.  At least in the
United States, I frequently use it for route calculations, getting
milage, and in other instances where I need a quick map.

-Chris

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> Does anyone have a KJV Bible, with our without engine that fits on a
> 1.2M or 1.44M floppy?

Bob:

About 5 years ago, when the internet was just catching on, I did some
exploring trying to find just the plain ASCII text files of the Bible.
I managed to locate the KJV in ASCII text, one file per book.

Total disk space is about 4MB.  I just did an experiment and was able
to zip them up to a file that is 1.465 MB, just a shade too big for
your "Bible on a floppy" request.  Perhaps if you omitted your least
favorite couple of books from the zip archive, you could make it fit.
Or, you can follow Hebrew tradition, and using the Unix tr command,
we can elminate all the vowels from the text files.  Surely that would
get us down to 1.4MB for a floppy...

If you want these text files, I can e-mail you the zip archive and/or
try to figure out where it was I located them on the internet.

-Chris Lott



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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:51:44 +0200
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----- Original Message -----
From: F. Kaufman <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX newbie: Request for help


> > This is probably a FAQ but I thought the HP Connectivity Pack
>
> I have run it under Win95 and now under Win98.  I have its properties
> set to Not detect Windows.  I have it run in a window.  Otherwise, I
> guess I have it set as any other dos box.
>

Right; no tweaking with the bat required either. I never ticked Not detect
Windows, and had no problems so far (frequent user under W98), but recently
there was a problem mentioned in the group.

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Then your problem is different from the problem I have. Some times when
I use MaxDOS in SysMgr and then exit back to SysMgr, I am not able to
switch work area in SC. But if I terminate SysMgr and restart it- it
works again.

Jorgen

> The problem lies within MaxDOS itself since MaxDOS is a TSR program. =
I've tried
> removing all other TSR but the problem still persist. I noticed the =
problem
> occurs when I run SC during any maxdos session. Conclusion, never =
switch to
> virtual palmtops during any MaxDOS session.
>
> Regards,
> Leong

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:13:27 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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Project Gutenberg has several versions of the King James Bible.  The
uncompressed text file comes to exactly 4,445,260 bytes and can be found at
ftp://sailor.gutenberg.org/pub/gutenberg/etext90/kjv10.txt.

Eliminating the Project Gutenberg text at the start and end of the file
reduced it to 4,432,732 bytes, and compressing it into a .ZIP file using Zip
2.2 (compatible with PKzip 2.04g) resulted in a total of 1,388,679 bytes.

Alan

>From: Robert K. Meyer İmailto:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM¨
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:30 PM
>...
>Does anyone have a KJV Bible, with our without engine that fits on a
>1.2M or 1.44M floppy?

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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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But there is often a problem with Excel not enclosing all fields in quotes
when it generates what it calls CSV files.  To solve that problem, I used to
re-format the fields that Excel didn't think needed quotes to include three
quotes before and after everything (""").  Now I use the handy little
utility CSVQUOTE.EXE that Curtis Cameron sent to the list in March of this
year.

Alan

>From: Teo Soon Bock İmailto:teosb@POST1.COM¨
>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:00 AM
>...
>There should be no need to convert from Excel to Access first before
>getting your CSV data file.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:49:18 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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You are right - the Bible in and of itself is not fluff (to some).  But
on this list, Bible discussion by itself and not in relation to the HP
is considered FLUFF.

Go create or join a Bible mailing list if you cannot get enough "just
Bible" talk in your life.

>  4) The USA being founded on the Bible (flames please)

As long as you remember that it was a Judeo-Christian foundation.  Seems
that many seem to forget some of that.

But also remember that as part of our founding, Freedom of Religion was
a major tenet.  I seem to recall some leaving Merry Ol' England (Merry,
if you were a proper believer) seeking religious freedom.  And Freedom
of Religion would probably encompass Freedom FROM religion.  And freedom
for Wicca and Buddism and Native American beliefs (they probably founded
this place before some of the others) and Hindu and Coptic Christian and
Polish American Catholic and Satanism and the list goes on.  (in order
to not offend anymore than I have, the order and selections had and has
nothing to do with priority or personal beliefs - it just happened!!!
Divine or Profane inspiration, perhaps (G))

So as long as each one of them gets a turn at their prayer at your All
American Football Game, so be it.  Can tolerance extend that far?

Can we PREDOMINENTLY stick to the HP (and yes, how to run bible programs
on it).

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More unlabelled fluff. sigh...

Actually, the following should be labelled "boring".

Message text written by INTERNET:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
>You are right - the Bible in and of itself is not fluff (to some).  But
>on this list, Bible discussion by itself and not in relation to the HP
>is considered FLUFF.

>Go create or join a Bible mailing list if you cannot get enough "just
>Bible" talk in your life.

>  4) The USA being founded on the Bible (flames please)

>As long as you remember that it was a Judeo-Christian foundation.  Seems=

>that many seem to forget some of that.

>But also remember that as part of our founding, Freedom of Religion was
>a major tenet.  I seem to recall some leaving Merry Ol' England (Merry,
>if you were a proper believer) seeking religious freedom.  And Freedom
>of Religion would probably encompass Freedom FROM religion.  And >freedo=
m
>for Wicca and Buddism and Native American beliefs (they probably founded=

>this place before some of the others) and Hindu and Coptic Christian and=

>Polish American Catholic and Satanism and the list goes on.  (in order
>to not offend anymore than I have, the order and selections had and has
>nothing to do with priority or personal beliefs - it just happened!!!
>Divine or Profane inspiration, perhaps (G))

>So as long as each one of them gets a turn at their prayer at your All
>American Football Game, so be it.  Can tolerance extend that far?

>Can we PREDOMINENTLY stick to the HP (and yes, how to run bible >program=
s
>on it).<

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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:35:30 +0200
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:22 -0400, Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE> wrote:

Hi Uli,

there is definetely interest!!
But I'm unable to write such a WAP browser, and I think, these people
who would be able to are occupied by thing which are more inportant.

I think WAP is only a short-termed compromise that will be disappearing
again once the first UMTS devices and networks are available. So I
really think that it's not worth the work to program a WAP browser -
although i'd be happy I had one these days. ;-)

GTX
daniel

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:22 -0400, Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Do I do something wrong? Is my mail not readable?
> Or is there no interest in the topic WAP  + HPLX?
> Uli
>
> > I am not sure whether this topic has been talked about:
> > Is there a chance to read WAP-Sites with the HP200LX?
> > It is nice to edit a WAP card with PE and to load it
> > to the internet with ftp. But I don't know a way to
> > see whether the WAP-card works or not - if one has
> > no WAP mobile.
> > Uli
> >
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:35:30 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> I think WAP is only a short-termed compromise that will be disappearing
> again once the first UMTS devices and networks are available. So I
> really think that it's not worth the work to program a WAP browser -
> although i'd be happy I had one these days. ;-)

I don't believe WAP is going anywhere anytime soon. There are more and more
devices that support it everyday.

Jeff

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Thoughts...

Limited phone and pager displays make WAP the current best solution for
them.  Limited connect speeds make it desirable as well if you have a
very limited connect speed.

However, most of the current PDA platforms have wireless browse options
that are far superior to the limits of WAP which, in turn and IMHO,
tends to limit WAP to phones and pagers.

From my observations, those most interested in connectivity have, or
want, connected PDA's.  We looked at WAP here and eventrually stayed
with a combination of standard pages plus the option of generating text
only emails on request to meet those needs that we had.

I may be missing something, but I did put in the time and effort and
still came to that conclusion.

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<HTML>
Last June someone posted a note about a PCMCIA card reader/writer (CardDock
Model Gs-220M from Greystone Peripherals) which was being offered by Daniel
Buchalter &lt;buchalter@pacbell.net> in San Leandro for $30 plus a modest
shipping charge for the USA - but $23.42 for Ireland&nbsp; 8-(&nbsp;&nbsp;
.

<P>The drive is internal and needs a slot the size of a CDROM drive on
the front of your desktop. There was no software to install; Win 95 detected
it.&nbsp; I'm adding a cautionary note relating to _MY_ Win95 which crashed
every time I attempted to use the drive. I'm pretty sure this had to do
with corrupt files on my early version Win95 which was giving lots of trouble
at the time; so much so that I was persuaded to upgrade to Win 98 - 2nd
edition.

<P>When I installed it in Win98 about the end of August, I thought I had
died and gone to computer heaven. It worked like a dream come true compared
to other backup solutions. Sure, it just copies files as from one directory
to another, but it works almost at the same speed. It takes two cards,
detecting them automatically, and will copy from one to the other as well
as to and from the desktop. I don't remember anything that installed and
worked so well, and everything in fractions of a second.

<P>If Daniel Buchalter hears about this plug, do you think he might refund
me some of the handling fee? &lt;VBG>

<P>Richard.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:26:11 +0000
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Robert K. Meyer wrote:
>  1) Several LX members contributing

Unless they're discussing hardware/software for the LX it _IS_ Fluff.

>  2) Flames not thrown

This post is a flame.  I was hoping the topic would go away by itself.

>  3) Serious input

I'm sure you're serious.  I'm serious too when I consider the topic
fiction.

>  4) The USA being founded on the Bible (flames please)

Ha!  Ever hear of separation of church and state?

> This IS NOT a FLUFF topic.

Yes it is.  Religion without LX connections is Fluff in this list.
Just because your beliefs are important to you does not mean they are
appropriate in a computing list.

> With "Bible" in the subject line, that should translate FLUFF to some.

It does but Fluff should still be added.  Better yet move the non-LX
discussion to a list where it will be appreciated.

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Russ,

Disclaimer, this note is not a flame.  It is only intent is to present the
facts and clear up a modern myth.  I sincerely hope all readers will enjoy
the truth.

Separation of church and state is not in the US Constitution or Bill of
Rights.  The concept was described in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the
Danbury Baptist Association.  It is clearly written to keep the government
out of the churches, not the other way around.  The courts and certain other
elements have perverted the concept and deceived the American people.  While
the media and the current establishment would have you believe the US was
founded as a secular nation, a brief study of this nation's early history
will prove otherwise.

Colin

"The Letter of Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association

January 1, 1802

Gentlemen:

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good
to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association, give me
the highest satisfaction. My duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit
of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded
of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more
pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man
and his God, that he owes acccount to none other for his faith of his
worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and
not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole.

American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law
respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of
the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress
of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights,
convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessings of the
common Father and Creator of man, and tender you and your religious
association, assurances of my high respect and esteem.

Thomas Jefferson"



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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:33:46 +0800
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Mark Willis blah, blah, blahed ...
>Have you tried re-formatting it in the 200LX?  (FDisk100 then Format.)
>I usually configure these Flash drives in a laptop here (that's happily
>compatible with the 200LX), 4Mb cards usually are fine there.
>
>  Mark

Mark,

Yes, tried fdisk100 in the palmtop but the kodak CF card was not recognized.

regards,

Oliver Chua
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Dear Stephan,

Thank you for replying.  I am glad to know that since yours worked, I
should get mine to work also.  But I am still not successful in getting it
to work.

Using fdisk100 in the palmtop to format gives me an error message that the
kodak CF card is not recognized.  Formatting and using the kodak CF card
inside the DC215 is not a problem but is not recognized by the palmtop.

regards,

Oliver Chua
bud@mindgate.net

note: please copy furnish all replies to my private email.

Stephan L=FCttjohann blah, blah, blahed ...
>Hi Oliver!
>
>I also have a DC 215 and the CF-Card works well with my
>palmtop! No problem, no driver needed.
>
>Try to format the card by your palmtop and try to use it
>then in your camera or
>try to format it in your camera and look if it now works
>in your palmtop.
>
>But anyway it should work both ways!
>
>GTX
>Stephan
>
>

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re:
>But there is often a problem with Excel not enclosing all fields in quotes
>when it generates what it calls CSV files.  To solve that problem, I used
to

OH! Do *all* the fields need quotes, no matter what (i.e., even the number
and date fields) for the CSV format to be "valid"?

I remember seeing some records without the quotes, I thought it might be OK,
as all my previous .CSV experience was 99% text or text-type fields. I
thought Excel "knew better than I did" about some need to omit the quotes on
certain fields.

Have I stumbled across another "feature" that sort of makes up its own
standard?!?!?

Thanks, I'll tinker some more...

--tim

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At 12:16 PM 10/18/00 -0400, Striegel, Alan wrote:
 >But there is often a problem with Excel not enclosing all fields in quotes
 >when it generates what it calls CSV files.  To solve that problem, I used to
 >re-format the fields that Excel didn't think needed quotes to include three
 >quotes before and after everything (""").  Now I use the handy little
 >utility CSVQUOTE.EXE that Curtis Cameron sent to the list in March of this
 >year.
 >

When saving as CSV format, Excel will only put the double quotes on field
entries that have a space in them, eg "John Doe".  For other field entries
without a space in between, the double quotes are not necessary.

I have no problem converting to GDB database format without having to run
CSVQUOTE first.

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There's a wide variation of cards and LX's that makes for some confusion over
what may work or not.

I bought a Canon A50 camera that came with a 8mb Canon branded CF card.  The
card did not work in my double-speed 200LX (with the same symptoms as you
described), but worked fine in my unmodified single-speed 200LX.  Further,
several list members had the same card and swore that the card worked in their
double-speed LXs, but to complicate things, it appeared also that the same Canon
branded cards may have also have been manufactured by different vendors.

My double-speed has never had a problem with a CF/flash card until this one, and
I tried every suggestion (and then some) to make it work to no avail.

I ultimately sold the card to another list member (with the appropriate
warnings).

My suggestion is to trade the card with a comparable one from someone else ...
or buy a new card from the store (where you could try them out).  Sandisk is
probably the most tried and reliable card for the LX.

- Longden





Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET> on 10/18/2000 04:33:43 PM

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Subject:  Re: Kodak compact flash




Using fdisk100 in the palmtop to format gives me an error message that the
kodak CF card is not recognized.  Formatting and using the kodak CF card
inside the DC215 is not a problem but is not recognized by the palmtop.

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On Wednesday, 18.10.2000 at 23:30 GMT, Tim  wrote:
> re:
> >But there is often a problem with Excel not enclosing all fields in
quotes
> >when it generates what it calls CSV files.  To solve that problem, I
used
> to
>
> OH! Do *all* the fields need quotes, no matter what (i.e., even the
number
> and date fields) for the CSV format to be "valid"?
>
> I remember seeing some records without the quotes, I thought it might be
OK,
> as all my previous .CSV experience was 99% text or text-type fields. I
> thought Excel "knew better than I did" about some need to omit the quotes
on
> certain fields.
>
> Have I stumbled across another "feature" that sort of makes up its own
> standard?!?!?
>
The handling of CSV files is a bit problematic, especially if you are in
Europe where we customarily use a decimal comma instead of a decimal point.
For instance, I get my phone bill online from Deutsche Telekom. The format
is CSV and all fields are enclosed in double quotes (which makes sense
because the numerical fields contain commas).

Now, when I try to open the CSV file in Lotus 1-2-3 (Millennium 9.5 version
on Windows 95, haven't tried this with the 2.4 version on the palmtop),
1-2-3 interprets all fields enclosed in double quotes as labels. The result
is that there are no numeric fields at all in the spreadsheet and functions
like @SUM(....) don't work on these fields. Setting the whole columns to
FIXED(...,...) doesn't help but removing the apostroph from each single
label does (a royal pain).

Great standards, huh?

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Hello all,
       I am a newcomer in the HP palmtop community, so please be
patient, :-).

I recently acquired a HP 200 LX (2mb version) and I researched the
s.u.p.e.r. database for a little project management tool I could run on
the palmtop and maybe at the same time on my win95 PC.

I found this pjt2001 program and installed it, it seems good as it is an
EXM application well integrated into the System Manager. Still, there is
no way I can export data to any format nor to run the EXM application
into the CPACK200 connectivity package either.

Would you know of any solution to such a question?

If this problem is known and there is a solution in some FAQ or
application, could you please point me in the right direction?

Bye
--
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Subject:      Re: HELP: Dead 100lx :(
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Hi Tim,

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:59:41 +1100, Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU> wrote:

> Any help in getting this operational would be greatly appreciated!  This
> unit is definitely the most useful handheld device that I have ever owned,
> and I dont want to have to go to the trouble of finding a replacement
> 100/200lx if at all possible

You probably had to find only a replacement motherboard, since the 14V
may have killed the voltage regulators or so on the mainboard. And a
100LX mainboard shouldn'T be too hard o find. The double speed upgrade
is easily swappable (if you added it by yourself, you are also able to
swap it to the new mainboard).
Maybe you won't find a 2MB board, since there are not such common, as
far as I know. Nd the 1MBs are unfortunately not upgradeble.
But maybe you fond one.
Or you replace it by a 200LX motherboard. Only the keyboard is a little
bit diffierent, but when you learn which keys are different, you should
soon have no problem anymore (I think only the blue keys are
different).

I have an old 100LX motherboard which I would sell to you. But is is a
German one. German software, German keyboard drivers (which could be
altered with tools like exkey or key200 or what its name is...)

GTX
daniel

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I believe the book "PC In Your Pocket" IS still relevant today.  The HP
200LX User's Guide can be thought of as a description of what the palmtop
HAS, while this book can be described more as a guide to HOW TO USE IT.
With numerous suggestions for applying the 200LX's power to various tasks,
it is a catalyst for ideas with a practical base.

Think of it as a concentrated dose of this mail list/newsgroup and you might
see how it can jump-start a new user's application.

Yes, it does make mention of some obsolete products, but that is not the
majority of the text.  And, looking on the bright side, some of those
obsolete products are now freely available; such as the Borland Turbo Pascal
and Turbo C compilers.

Alan

>From: Ken Hansen İmailto:n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET¨
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:58 PM
>
> PC In Your Pocket
>
>http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=971799567.292/page=pciyp.h
tm for US$19.95.
>
>Is this book still relevent today - does it cover software no longer
>available? Any additional information would be appreciated.

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Thanks to those who pointed out the availability of the KJV
text files on Project Gutenberg.

I was able to download these quickly, put the plain text version
into WordPerfect 7 (W95, 166mHz Pentium, 32MB RAM), and extract
(using 'copy' and 'paste') a single book, after which I saved it
separately. I can do this with whichever books I want.

This means I will be able to put exactly as much as I want on
my 200LX. I have a 10MB ATA card (SunDisk) that will easily
accommodate the whole thing. But it's convenient to have the
books in separate files--I doubt that Memo will handle the
whole Bible file (4+MB), since the 200LX itself has only 5MB.
My DVED editor would probably work, but to make it quickly
through such a large file I would want to have double speed
(and probably 8MB or so of RAM to give everything the space
to work).

Meanwhile the whole file is still on my desktop PC, and I can
very quickly find words I want--faster and easier than Strong's
Concordance!

Mark Shields
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> Separation of church and state is not in
> the US Constitution or Bill of Rights.
>  The concept was described in a letter
> from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury
> Baptist Association.

Article 1 of the bill of rights begins with:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Taken from the letter that you quote:

"American people which declared that their
> legislature should "make no law respecting
> an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
> the free exercise thereof," thus building a
> wall of separation between church and State.

Shows Jefferson interpreting that phrase in the first amendment to
mean that there will be a seperation of church and state.  Ok, what
does Jefferson know?  He was out of the country when the
constitution was written.  But didn't he participate in the writing
of the bill of rights?  Do we know who included that phrase?

Jefferson or not, both he and a lot of supreme court justices since
have concluded that that phrase does in fact establish a seperation
of church and state.  Jefferson or some other may have been first to
use that phrase, but it was used to describe that provision of the
first amendment.

Further,  I declare my inalienable right to go to a football game
and not be forced to pray and not be forced into the hypocracy of
pretending to pray and not to be subject to scorn for refusing to
pray.

In the second or third grade, living in Taylor, Texas, I was the
only Jewish kid in the school and my choice was to be voluble in my
recitation of the morning lord's prayer or fight half a dozen guys
on the way home.  I learned to fight.  Their older brothers were
fighting with knives.  Fortunately we moved away before it got to
that point for me.

Any Christian who thinks there's no harm in prayer in school and in
football games and so forth is making assumptions about the goodness
of other Christians that can't be justified by history or even the
present population, and that are just not true.  Christians are not
all kindly people who only want what's good for everyone.  Some are.
Some are murderers.  The vast majority fall somewhere in between.

As for discussion of biblical software on the LX on this list,  I
can't imagine why anyone cares.  Non-religious people can sometimes
be as intolerant as the religious ones, I guess.  We should know
better.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:17:59 -0600
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There is a very interesting book called "American Aurora" ( see
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0312194374/review
s/0312194374/103-4075895-1604660#03121943746700 for some reviews) that
discusses events in the late 1700's/early 1800's, when John Adams sought,
among other things, to stiffle dissent and establish a national religion.
Jefferson and others fought that movement and won. If he hadn't, prayer in
schools would be a non-issue today (we would all be praying, or else).

My point is, the debates of today are not new. Religion is (or should be
IMHO) a personal matter -- a matter of belief, not logic or legislation.
Discussions of religion (mine included) should be labeled fluff, so those
who want to can filter them out.

Robert A. Feldman
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"Feldman, Robert" wrote:
>
>
> My point is, the debates of today are not new. Religion is (or
> should be MHO) a personal matter -- a matter of belief, not logic or >
legislation.
> Discussions of religion (mine included) should be labeled fluff, so >
those who want to can filter them out.
>


To be sure they should be labeled FLUFF - but it seems to me that people use
"FLUFF" as a license to roam. This is an HP list. I'd suspect that is why
most people are here. If we want to discuss religion, cars, politics
(whatever), there are places to do so, and while I don't recall the
specifics of the list charter, this getter chatter probably doesn't apply.
This doesn't need to be the place for these discussions, nor should it be.
To be sure, we can just hit "delete", and I do, and it's not a big deal -
but in my opinion this list is getting out of control. I've been reading it
for years, and while I can't imagine unsubscribing, I'm amazed I've even
considered it recently.

The way Avi was treated after his happy holidays post was an absolute
disgrace, and why that discussion wasn't nipped in the bud, I have no idea.

End of rant.


Regards,

Larry Feldman

- And no - no relation, through I DO have a brother "Robert" :¬)

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Does anyone here own a AST Ascentia 280M?

Jeff

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Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but from where the quotes end, it looks
like it is you who is saying "thus building a wall of seaparation between
church and state (MY quotes).  Thus it looks like your interpretation, not
Jefferson's.

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Subject: Freedom of religion, the consitution and Fluff


> Separation of church and state is not in
> the US Constitution or Bill of Rights.
>  The concept was described in a letter
> from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury
> Baptist Association.

Article 1 of the bill of rights begins with:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Taken from the letter that you quote:

"American people which declared that their
> legislature should "make no law respecting
> an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
> the free exercise thereof," thus building a
> wall of separation between church and State.

Shows Jefferson interpreting that phrase in the first amendment to
mean that there will be a seperation of church and state.  Ok, what
does Jefferson know?  He was out of the country when the
constitution was written.  But didn't he participate in the writing
of the bill of rights?  Do we know who included that phrase?

Jefferson or not, both he and a lot of supreme court justices since
have concluded that that phrase does in fact establish a seperation
of church and state.  Jefferson or some other may have been first to
use that phrase, but it was used to describe that provision of the
first amendment.

Further,  I declare my inalienable right to go to a football game
and not be forced to pray and not be forced into the hypocracy of
pretending to pray and not to be subject to scorn for refusing to
pray.

In the second or third grade, living in Taylor, Texas, I was the
only Jewish kid in the school and my choice was to be voluble in my
recitation of the morning lord's prayer or fight half a dozen guys
on the way home.  I learned to fight.  Their older brothers were
fighting with knives.  Fortunately we moved away before it got to
that point for me.

Any Christian who thinks there's no harm in prayer in school and in
football games and so forth is making assumptions about the goodness
of other Christians that can't be justified by history or even the
present population, and that are just not true.  Christians are not
all kindly people who only want what's good for everyone.  Some are.
Some are murderers.  The vast majority fall somewhere in between.

As for discussion of biblical software on the LX on this list,  I
can't imagine why anyone cares.  Non-religious people can sometimes
be as intolerant as the religious ones, I guess.  We should know
better.

Barry

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I'm going to inject something into this discussion that may or may not
be revalent.

>> Windoze <<

I havn't seen any mention of putting this card in a Windows Laptop
pcmcia slot, but if it can be done, do the following;

If the disk is readable, right click on the drive icon and select
properties and confirm that the file system is FAT and not FAT32.

If it is FAT32, see if windows can reformat it to FAT

If it is not readable, go to the device manager and see what the device
manager says about the card.

>> Wince <<

The following is in case that particular CF has ever been in a CE
machine and for general information as CF's get passed around to WinCE
devices

One of the anomolies that I have come across bashing around with WinCE
for the past year is the fact that it doesn't play nice with the FAT
entries, specifically dealing with long file names.  The problem
appeared when some CE app automatically created a "My Documents" folder
on the CF card without any type of notification.

The next time the CF card was inserted into a Windows machine, Explorer
slowed to a crawl accessing the card, but folders and files finally
displayed properly.  The "My Documents" folder stood out because of the
upper/lowercase name.

Next, the "My Documents" folder was invisble to dos.  A DIR command
didn't show it.  The only way to access it was to include the full path
name in quotes... i.e.;

CD "\My Documents"

Using the Windows Explorer, I deleted the folder, and then created a new
folder named "My Documents"

Explorer came back up to full speed accessing the card.  The new folder
showed up in a Dos DIR command as "MYDOCU~1"

WinCE was oblivious to the fact that anything had changed when the card
was re-inserted in the device.

It now appears that if you pre-empt CE from creating the "My Documents"
folder by doing it yourself and following 8.3 naming conventions on
additional files and folders created or renamed on the CE device, there
will be no problems.  I am also taking the precaution of generating an
empty "My Documents" folder on all of my other CF disks.

--
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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:20:18 +0200
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              Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE>
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>This is an HP list. I'd suspect that is why
> most people are here. If we want to discuss religion, cars, politics
> (whatever), there are places to do so, and while I don't recall the
> specifics of the list charter, this getter chatter probably doesn't apply.
> This doesn't need to be the place for these discussions, nor should it be.


Yes, I think you're right - I subscribed to read something about the HP, not
about Jefferson - a few e-mails off-topic are okay I think - but this is to
much I suppose.

so long,
Christoph
--
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 www.drdos.net (english)
other (all in german):
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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:33:01 -0500
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Those were Jeffeson's quote marks.  He was quoting the constitution.
That whole paragraph is cut and pasted from the letter I replied to.

Barry

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<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Freedom of religion, the consitution and Fluff


> Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but from where the quotes end,
it looks
> like it is you who is saying "thus building a wall of seaparation
between
> church and state (MY quotes).  Thus it looks like your
interpretation, not
> Jefferson's.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf
Of
> Barry
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:40 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Freedom of religion, the consitution and Fluff
>
>
> > Separation of church and state is not in
> > the US Constitution or Bill of Rights.
> >  The concept was described in a letter
> > from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury
> > Baptist Association.
>
> Article 1 of the bill of rights begins with:
>
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion,
> or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
>
> Taken from the letter that you quote:
>
> "American people which declared that their
> > legislature should "make no law respecting
> > an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
> > the free exercise thereof," thus building a
> > wall of separation between church and State.
>
> Shows Jefferson interpreting that phrase in the first amendment to
> mean that there will be a seperation of church and state.  Ok,
what
> does Jefferson know?  He was out of the country when the
> constitution was written.  But didn't he participate in the
writing
> of the bill of rights?  Do we know who included that phrase?
>
> Jefferson or not, both he and a lot of supreme court justices
since
> have concluded that that phrase does in fact establish a
seperation
> of church and state.  Jefferson or some other may have been first
to
> use that phrase, but it was used to describe that provision of the
> first amendment.
>
> Further,  I declare my inalienable right to go to a football game
> and not be forced to pray and not be forced into the hypocracy of
> pretending to pray and not to be subject to scorn for refusing to
> pray.
>
> In the second or third grade, living in Taylor, Texas, I was the
> only Jewish kid in the school and my choice was to be voluble in
my
> recitation of the morning lord's prayer or fight half a dozen guys
> on the way home.  I learned to fight.  Their older brothers were
> fighting with knives.  Fortunately we moved away before it got to
> that point for me.
>
> Any Christian who thinks there's no harm in prayer in school and
in
> football games and so forth is making assumptions about the
goodness
> of other Christians that can't be justified by history or even the
> present population, and that are just not true.  Christians are
not
> all kindly people who only want what's good for everyone.  Some
are.
> Some are murderers.  The vast majority fall somewhere in between.
>
> As for discussion of biblical software on the LX on this list,  I
> can't imagine why anyone cares.  Non-religious people can
sometimes
> be as intolerant as the religious ones, I guess.  We should know
> better.
>
> Barry
>
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>

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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:36:45 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:22 -0400, Ulrich Allen wrote:

> Do I do something wrong? Is my mail not readable?

:-) No you do nothing wrong.

> Or is there no interest in the topic WAP  + HPLX?

I would not mind if Hv supported wapsites. But I do not think that the
author will make it understand wml. It would have been nice to surf
wapsites with the large screen of the Hplx.

The Ericsson R380 and Nokia 9110i has built in wapbrowser. Also the new
Psion Revo and other pda's has built in wapbrowsers.

There should be no problem for somebody that understands wml to
implement this into Hv or some other browser that works with the Hplx

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway


> Uli
>
> > I am not sure whether this topic has been talked about:
> > Is there a chance to read WAP-Sites with the HP200LX?
> > It is nice to edit a WAP card with PE and to load it
> > to the internet with ftp. But I don't know a way to
> > see whether the WAP-card works or not - if one has
> > no WAP mobile.
> > Uli

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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:36:47 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:48:35 -0400, Jeff wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:16:27 -0400, Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:
>
> > What is WAP?????????
>
> Wireless Application Protocol and most commonly used on internet enabled
> phones.

I have a Nokia 7110 wapphone. Wap is _not_ internet in your pocket. The
pages you can "surf"(9600bps) is not very exiting. But it works and I
can access all my emailaccounts wherever I am.

I can also access a lot of newssites and things like that. But since it
cost as much to use wap as a normal call it is expencive.

For more info and services check out http://www.gelon.net

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:56:18 +1300
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Luca wrote:

>I found this pjt2001 program and installed it, it seems good as it is an
>EXM application well integrated into the System Manager. Still, there is
>no way I can export data to any format nor to run the EXM application
>into the CPACK200 connectivity package either.
>Would you know of any solution to such a question?

I've never bothered to run any LX software on a desktop, but I understand
it can be done using PAL. Others on the list will hopefully jump in here.

You can supposedly export the project data to another LX database, but I
have never got this to work.
The only export facility appears to be via Print. This produces a CSV
file which can be loaded into Excel and maybe Access, etc.
The format of this *.txt file is as follows:

Proj  Actvty
Letr  Number          %    Strt  Fin   Dependencies   Unknown  Cost
A-Z    1-99   Desc  Cmplt  Date  Date   1    2    3    Field   /day
----  ------  ----  -----  ----  ----  ---  ---  ---  -------  ----

(Continued)

                       Start  Finish
                       Time   Time
Duration  Rest  Fix    0=am   0=pm    Note
(days)    0/1   0/1    1=pm   1=am    Text
--------  ----  -----  -----  ------  ----

For example:

A,0,House Alterations,13,19/06/2000,31/07/2000,,,,0,0,0,0,,0,0,,
A,1,Architect,100.19/06/2000,19/06/2000,0,0,0,0,400,1,0,1,0,1,Est,
A,2,Plan Consent,50,20/06/2000,24/06/2000,1,0,0,0,0,5,0,0,0,0,,
A,3,Builder,0,27/06/2000,27/06/2000,1,2,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,Needs plans,
etc
etc

This info doesn't seem to be acceptable to Microsoft Project, but
might be to other applications. Excel loves it.
Either way, I don't think you'll find it easy or even possible to
work with both PJT2 and some other Project Manager software.
I'm perfectly happy with only PJT2 and the 200LX, even though I
have Microsoft Project.
It's a combination that makes other people in planning meetings
look very slow and inflexible as they wait for Windows to do
something or scribble all over their project printouts.
It's pretty satisfying to flip open the LX, bring up the project
in seconds, update it, point out any conflicts or problems with
the new proposals, and put the LX back in the pocket.
Meanwhile the others are still starting up their software.

Feels good

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:45:59 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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The context of this situation has been forgotten and twisted by our modern
courts agenda.  The Danbury's were afraid of a state religion and this is
what Jefferson was addressing in his letter.  I suspect "American Aurora"
will make this clear.  BTW, thanks for the book recommendation Robert.
Since Jefferson was involved in writing Bill of Rights, I believe he was
probably more qualified to interpret it than our current courts.

Colin


Subject: Re: Freedom of religion, the consitution and Fluff


Those were Jeffeson's quote marks.  He was quoting the constitution.
That whole paragraph is cut and pasted from the letter I replied to.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: <jhenry@comcastwork.com>
To: "'HPLX Mailing List'" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "'Barry'"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Freedom of religion, the consitution and Fluff


> Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but from where the quotes end,
it looks
> like it is you who is saying "thus building a wall of seaparation
between
> church and state (MY quotes).  Thus it looks like your
interpretation, not
> Jefferson's.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf
Of
> Barry
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:40 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Freedom of religion, the consitution and Fluff
>
>
> > Separation of church and state is not in
> > the US Constitution or Bill of Rights.
> >  The concept was described in a letter
> > from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury
> > Baptist Association.
>
> Article 1 of the bill of rights begins with:
>
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion,
> or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
>
> Taken from the letter that you quote:
>
> "American people which declared that their
> > legislature should "make no law respecting
> > an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
> > the free exercise thereof," thus building a
> > wall of separation between church and State.
>
> Shows Jefferson interpreting that phrase in the first amendment to
> mean that there will be a seperation of church and state.  Ok,
what
> does Jefferson know?  He was out of the country when the
> constitution was written.  But didn't he participate in the
writing
> of the bill of rights?  Do we know who included that phrase?
>
> Jefferson or not, both he and a lot of supreme court justices
since
> have concluded that that phrase does in fact establish a
seperation
> of church and state.  Jefferson or some other may have been first
to
> use that phrase, but it was used to describe that provision of the
> first amendment.
>
> Further,  I declare my inalienable right to go to a football game
> and not be forced to pray and not be forced into the hypocracy of
> pretending to pray and not to be subject to scorn for refusing to
> pray.
>
> In the second or third grade, living in Taylor, Texas, I was the
> only Jewish kid in the school and my choice was to be voluble in
my
> recitation of the morning lord's prayer or fight half a dozen guys
> on the way home.  I learned to fight.  Their older brothers were
> fighting with knives.  Fortunately we moved away before it got to
> that point for me.
>
> Any Christian who thinks there's no harm in prayer in school and
in
> football games and so forth is making assumptions about the
goodness
> of other Christians that can't be justified by history or even the
> present population, and that are just not true.  Christians are
not
> all kindly people who only want what's good for everyone.  Some
are.
> Some are murderers.  The vast majority fall somewhere in between.
>
> As for discussion of biblical software on the LX on this list,  I
> can't imagine why anyone cares.  Non-religious people can
sometimes
> be as intolerant as the religious ones, I guess.  We should know
> better.
>

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Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:54:56 -0500 (EST)

I know some of you feel you have to have the last word on the subject,
but No More Please! As has been pointed out before, this is not the
place for this discussion! FLUFF or No FLUFF, Please take it off the
HPLX-L...If it doesn't have anything to do with the HPLX, it doesn't
belong on this LIST.

Consider this the "Last Warning"

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At the risk of being labeled, I have to say that I agree with Stephan.

I don't think that the items you listed have anything to do with it being LX
related and it kind of looks like you're baiting others into a discussion.

Eric

>From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>"Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: Bible programs
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:41:12 -0600
>
>It seems that with
>  1) Several LX members contributing
>  2) Flames not thrown
>  3) Serious input
>  4) The USA being founded on the Bible (flames please)
>This IS NOT a FLUFF topic.
>
>With "Bible" in the subject line, that should translate FLUFF to some.
>
>Bob
>
>Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> >
> > Would you please put a "FLUFF" in front of your Subject line?
> > This is definitely not anymore on-topic. Of course, besides of bible
> > programs a lot of other software runs on the LX. I run a
>religion-related
> > software on the LX too and discussed about it OFF-LIST with somebody
>from
> > the list. You cannot make this much noise about every hobby, only
>because it
> > is manageable with the LX.
> >

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> The context of this situation has been forgotten and twisted by our modern
> courts agenda.  The Danbury's were afraid of a state religion and this is
> what Jefferson was addressing in his letter.  I suspect "American Aurora"
> will make this clear.  BTW, thanks for the book recommendation Robert.
> Since Jefferson was involved in writing Bill of Rights, I believe he was
> probably more qualified to interpret it than our current courts.


The "modern court's agenda" or rather a few fed up, courageous
individuals who said enough "Protestant" teachings occuring in Public
Schools.  Enough of Christmas and the Handel's Messiah at public
assemblies and asked the court to THINK about the implications of
'hidden' religious agendas to those with young children of minority
persuasions?   Reverse your cloak and think about those folks for a
while without thinking about proselytizing everyone within reach.  No
in-built sensitivity?  Well, darn, that's what the court is for.

I understand you prefer this "de facto" religious preaching but it
differs little from "de jure" (government sponsored or required)
especially when "innocently" practiced on young children.

And I personally attend concerts of Bach Oratorios VOLUNTARILY at the
symphony hall but I pass on Handel - it is a bit too much religion of
the "wrong" type for my tastes.

Our constitution and its Bill of Rights was written to protect the
minority (religion, race, creed, etc) from the tyranny of the majority.
See our founding fathers fixed some of the precepts you think our
country was founded on.

And our later "non-founders" fixed even some of the things they thought
appropriate - little things like slavery.  I know, I'm sure our then
Modern Court got it wrong by some perspectives when the Dred Scott
decision was finally revisited.

Of course with enough immigration maybe Buddist or Muslim or Catholic
prayers will be common in public schools - I want to see your opinions
then: "Daddy (or Grandaddy) who was Muhammad?"

But, once again, back to the HPLIST - the Bible and this discussion is
FLUFF.  (Sorry, to bore you, again, Tom! (G))

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Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:39:29 DST
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              curtis j brown <mrbrown8@JUNO.COM>
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I apologize if this has already been discussed. I haven't paid too close
to the latest threads.

Anyway, I saw some discussion about using the CueCat for the palmtop.
Then, I remembered some info available about interfacing the 'Cat to an
RS232 info. Pierre-Philippe Coupard (pierre@lineo.com) made a driver for
Linux and included this information with his distribution. His webpage
is/was at http://oss.lineo.com/cuecat/. Unfortunately, DigitalConvergence
has made legal threats to many CueCat developers, Pierre included. I
asked him if he was willing to share the RS232 information. This is what
he wrote back to me:

----------------------------------------------------------
From: pierre@lineo.com
To: curtis j brown <mrbrown8@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:09:40 -0600
Subject: Re: CueCat RS232 pod information

curtis j brown wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Sorry to be bothering you like this. I am hoping you would be willing
to
> do a bunch of us a favor.

No bother at all.

> Let me try to explain who the "us" are (even though I don't represent
> them). I am part of a mailing list of people whose subject centers
around
> the Hewlett-Packard 200LX palmtop. This palmtop is unique in that its
OS
> is MS-DOS. Because of that alone, we have access to tons of software. A
> recent thread came up about the CueCat. Because the 200LX have no PS2
> port on it, there was some discussion about alternative barcode readers
> available.

Having maintained the DR-DOS kernel for a while, I thought of making a
CueCat driver TSR myself, for fun, before DigitalConvergence gave me all
that c**p about their "intellectual property". Incidently, you should
know
that they will go after you with lawyers and all  if they see you do any
kind of CueCat project they don't approve of (approximately all
projects).

> Now, I was able to download version 0.1.6 of your CueCat driver about a
> month ago. One of the interesing things I saw was the HTML file you
> included descibing how to use the CueCat on a standard RS2332 serial
> port. Coincidently, the 200LX has an RS232 port on it.

Indeed the CueCat driver package contains instructions to make an RS232
"pod" to connect a CueCat on a serial port. However, beware that it
relies
on two tricks :

(1) the pod only contains a 7404 to invert the TTL signal from the
CueCat,
which means that your serial port must be "open-minded" enough to accept
TTL levels as valid logical levels (which they aren't by far, if you
follow
the RS232 specs) : most PC/AT serial ports do, but I don't know if your
200LX's serial port will. I know for a fact that Mac ports don't. If the
200LX wants stricter voltage levels, you'll have to replace the 7404 by a
MAX232 or equivalent chip.

(2) the CueCat sends data at approximately 8000 bps : that's an highly
unusual speed for a serial port. Again, the clock and the dividers used
in a
PC/AT allows to get close enough to that speed to read the CueCat, but I
don't know if you can do that with a 200LX.

> What I would like to ask is, would you be willing to make the RS232_pod
> files publically available. I realize Lineo is still under legal
> pressure, but I would think this would be separate from the driver.

Sure, no problem. The CueCat driver tarball is attached to this mail. The
instructions for the pod are inside. If you can't read tarballs, let me
know
and I'll send you a zip.

> Many thanks in advance for any consideration you can give.

You bet :)

Take care !

----------------------------------------------------------

If this is of use to anyone, I can send either the whole tar package or
just the RS232 information. Requests by email are prefered as I can just
reply with an attachment, unless there are special requests.

--
Curtis Brown =8)
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Hallo Luca,

> I recently acquired a HP 200 LX (2mb version) and I researched the
> s.u.p.e.r. database for a little project management tool I could run on
> the palmtop and maybe at the same time on my win95 PC.

I use a freeware program from www.dasoft.com called PRO/LX. It runs
together with their excellent PalEdit texteditor in dos mode. Check it
out.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:50:41 -0400
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              Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
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Daniel is certainly right that UMTS will do it all better.
But I think it will still take some time.
WAP sites are very fast to read because it is text only
and you get the nitty-gritty immediately
I too saw that the new revo plus supports WAP.
If fees for WAP drop as predicted, it could get a hit
at the end of the year.
An addition to HV would certainly find a lot of
interest and users.
Uli DL1ER

> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:22 -0400, Ulrich Allen wrote:
>
> > Do I do something wrong? Is my mail not readable?
>
> :-) No you do nothing wrong.
>
> > Or is there no interest in the topic WAP  + HPLX?
>
> I would not mind if Hv supported wapsites. But I do not think that the
> author will make it understand wml. It would have been nice to surf
> wapsites with the large screen of the Hplx.
>
> The Ericsson R380 and Nokia 9110i has built in wapbrowser. Also the new
> Psion Revo and other pda's has built in wapbrowsers.
>
> There should be no problem for somebody that understands wml to
> implement this into Hv or some other browser that works with the Hplx
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
> > Uli
> >
> > > I am not sure whether this topic has been talked about:
> > > Is there a chance to read WAP-Sites with the HP200LX?
> > > It is nice to edit a WAP card with PE and to load it
> > > to the internet with ftp. But I don't know a way to
> > > see whether the WAP-card works or not - if one has
> > > no WAP mobile.
> > > Uli
>
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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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Longden,

I exactly came down to the same conclusion.  Thank you.  I've decided to
try to sell the CF card.

Oliver

Longden_Loo@candle.com blah, blah, blahed ...
>
>There's a wide variation of cards and LX's that makes for some confusion over
>what may work or not.
>
>I bought a Canon A50 camera that came with a 8mb Canon branded CF card.  The
>card did not work in my double-speed 200LX (with the same symptoms as you
>described), but worked fine in my unmodified single-speed 200LX.  Further,
>several list members had the same card and swore that the card worked in
their
>double-speed LXs, but to complicate things, it appeared also that the same
Canon
>branded cards may have also have been manufactured by different vendors.
>
>My double-speed has never had a problem with a CF/flash card until this
one, and
>I tried every suggestion (and then some) to make it work to no avail.
>
>I ultimately sold the card to another list member (with the appropriate
>warnings).
>
>My suggestion is to trade the card with a comparable one from someone else
...
>or buy a new card from the store (where you could try them out).  Sandisk is
>probably the most tried and reliable card for the LX.
>
>- Longden

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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> What could make Post/LX stop talking to ANY modem? <it's the new =
version,
> and it worked fine for weeks>.

Try reinstalling WWW/LX and Post/LX.  Keep your current *.cfg files to =
help
built new ones.  I suspect that one of the program files has become =
corrupted.

Also, try running d:\dos\chkdsk on the disk.

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Now, when I try to open the CSV file in
> Lotus 1-2-3 (Millennium 9.5 version on
> Windows 95, haven't tried this with the
> 2.4 version on the palmtop), 1-2-3 interprets
> all fields enclosed in double quotes as labels.
> The result is that there are no numeric fields
> at all in the spreadsheet and functions like
> @SUM(....) don't work on these fields. Setting
> the whole columns to FIXED(...,...) doesn't help
> but removing the apostroph from each single
> label does (a royal pain).
>
> Great standards, huh?

I think this was established in Lotus before CSV became a standard.
As I remember it (it's been years so I may be a little confused),
Lotus wants strings (labels) in quotes and it wants numbers without
quotes.  Formulas are numbers, of course.

This wasn't a new pattern with Lotus and dBase.  Data in basic was
handled in the same way.

I don't know if CSV now does things that way or if it puts
everything in quotes.  But I think the old way is probably more
practical.  It's often important to distinguish between strings and
numbers and content isn't always a reliable way to do it.  Zip
codes, phone numbers and social security numbers, for example, are
numeric in content but are usually stored as strings.

Barry

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Yes, it does make mention of some obsolete
> products, but that is not the majority of the text.
>  And, looking on the bright side, some of those
> obsolete products are now freely available; such
> as the Borland Turbo Pascal and Turbo C compilers.

Given that Turbo C (and probably Turbo Pascal) are still in use by
lots of people all over the world I find it hard to think of them as
obsolete.  I think it's a safe bet that 50% of the C source on sites
like Simtelnet, Jumbo and xtftp are written in Turbo C. And not the
++ varieties, either.

The number of hobbiests writing code for old computers is pretty
high and Turbo C is pretty much the favorite for Dos computers.  It
was passed around very liberally long before it became freeware.  In
fact, Borland had so many requests for it that for years they sold
copy licenses for $50.  You bought the license from Borland and it
gave you the right to make a copy of someone else's compiler and use
it legally.

For CP/M, Turbo Pascal is still popular, although it isn't the
standard that TC is for dos.  It's CP/M version has been available
for download on the web since there was a web.

Barry

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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I want to apologize to all of you for the exchange between James
Henry and myself that is coming to this list.

I received his posts and saw that Outlook Express said they went to
me and there was no other recipient at the top, and I replied,
thinking the reply was only going to James Henry.

I just read through todays digest and I see that somehow they've all
gone to the list.  There's also another one on the way, I'm sorry to
say.

I thought I was sending only to James Henry and since only my name
is at the top, I suspect he thought he was sending only to me.  I'm
not sure why that wasn't the case.

In any case, I agree that this has gone way beyond what should be on
this list and I'll see to it that after the one I already sent there
won't be any more from me that do get to the list.

Barry

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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Hello! Could someone that lives in Japan tell me if a battery for a GVC C280
mini laptop is the same as a AST Ascentia 280M? As I understand it, the GVC
was only sold in Japan. I have one and need to make sure the batteries for
the 2 computers above are compatible. It's a spiffy laptop, although it is
bigger than the LX, it's still quite small with a footprint of that of a
Libretto.

Jeff

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Luca Campeis wrote:

> I found this pjt2001 program and installed it, it seems good as it is an
> EXM application well integrated into the System Manager. Still, there is
> no way I can export data to any format nor to run the EXM application
> into the CPACK200 connectivity package either.

> Would you know of any solution to such a question?

There is a program on SUPER called PALRUN which you can use on your desktop
PC to run EXM applications from the command line. This will then allow you
to run PJT2001 using the file from your palmtop which you can copy across
using CPACK200.

HTH

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:44:27 -0700
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My archives at http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/ have been updated, and
a few changes made.

The current months messages are now available by thread or date. This is
updated as messages are received. All the past month archives are
available as well.

The current months messages are included when searching the year 2000.
This is only updated once a day, so posts in the last 24 hours may not be
included in your search. The current month is NOT included if you search
All Years. It takes 6+ hours to regenerate the All Years index, during
which time there is little cpu or memory left to do anything else. To
generate the All Years index, I move the yearly indices to a much faster
machine, but it still takes over an hour to merge them.

More punctuation characters are now allowed in words, meaning, you can now
search for words like WWW/LX, LX-MapBlast, etc.


A few stats: The archive currently contains 56,471 messages, consuming
408MB for the messages, and another 144MB for the various indices.

And a hint: If your search gets no results, one of your search words may
have been too common, and excluded from the index.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:47:04 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Have you acutally done this?

I thought Pal programs (which I thought PALRUN was written for) were EXEs and
not EXMs.  I've never been able to run an EXM from my desktop, tho I'll confess
to never having tried very hard.

For example, the Palmtop Periodic Table is a Pal program and it's ppt.exe.

- Longden





lharvey <lharvey@NTLWORLD.COM> on 10/20/2000 07:53:40 AM

Please respond to lharvey <lharvey@ntlworld.com>

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> no way I can export data to any format nor to run the EXM application
> into the CPACK200 connectivity package either.

> Would you know of any solution to such a question?

There is a program on SUPER called PALRUN which you can use on your desktop
PC to run EXM applications from the command line. This will then allow you
to run PJT2001 using the file from your palmtop which you can copy across
using CPACK200.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:45:15 +0200
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Is it possible to sort the programs by date?

gi@mpi

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              Luca Campeis <luca.campeis@LIBERO.IT>
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In article <000701c03aa6$634ac300$f2a5fc3e@leh>, lharvey
<lharvey@NTLWORLD.COM> writes
>Luca Campeis wrote:
>
>> I found this pjt2001 program and installed it, it seems good as it is an
>> EXM application well integrated into the System Manager. Still, there is
>> no way I can export data to any format nor to run the EXM application
>> into the CPACK200 connectivity package either.
>
>> Would you know of any solution to such a question?
>
>There is a program on SUPER called PALRUN which you can use on your desktop
>PC to run EXM applications from the command line. This will then allow you
>to run PJT2001 using the file from your palmtop which you can copy across
>using CPACK200.
>

OK, this is the story:
I got the palrun program and I tried to run pjt2.exm
I get a "There is not enough memory for the palrun application"
I got this message on a win95 (DOS box and full DOS) and even on an old
386 with real DOS 5.0 (it was there... eheheh )

I read the info on the pjt2001 project and the author does not refer to
the PAL library, so I am not sure whether the palrun is effectively an
all-rounder emulator for the System Manager or not.

I am ignorant of the in-depth mechanisms of the PAL library/emulator so
I am not able to give more details of the problem

Would I need any other software to get it to run?

Cheers
--
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Date:         Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:30:13 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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>>I got the palrun program and I tried to run pjt2.exm

PALRUN does not run .exm files it is an gui function emulator to enable
programs written using the PAL library to run on a desktop. programs written
using the PAL library look just like the hp built in programs but they are
plain old dos programs that can only run on the HP, to run them on a desktop
you need PALRUN to provide the gui functions.

I cant remember but perhaps cpack could run a .exm file on the desktop

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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

Well, I'm using my lx-200 each day with pleasur and success;
Particularly I'm glad about the fact, that I can run all my
own asm-progs, tp-progs and (f.i with pal adapted) c-progs.

But what is, when some day my lx-200 is broken or so?
Have the jordanas (first the 680/690 - hacking -)) a DOS-shell
to use und program the old progs? Or have I to use Delphi or
alike?

                Klaus.
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Nope.  Been there, done that, and was never able to get Cpack to run an exm.  I
would still love to be proved wrong tho.

- Longden






Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM> on 10/20/2000 11:30:13 AM

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I cant remember but perhaps cpack could run a .exm file on the desktop

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I don't think there's any way to run an EXM on a desktop.

Palrun is written specifically to support PAL programs and is NOT (as you've
already guessed) an all-around emulator for the System Manager (not really even
close).

- Longden





Luca Campeis <luca.campeis@LIBERO.IT> on 10/20/2000 11:03:57 AM

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Subject:  Re: Exm programs and CPACK200




I read the info on the pjt2001 project and the author does not refer to
the PAL library, so I am not sure whether the palrun is effectively an
all-rounder emulator for the System Manager or not.

I am ignorant of the in-depth mechanisms of the PAL library/emulator so
I am not able to give more details of the problem

Would I need any other software to get it to run?

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Subject: Have Jordanas a DOS-Shell?

No...but there is a shareware pogram that will run dos programs.

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Any hope in this EXM to EXE converter?

http://www.vector.co.jp/ftptx/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/exm2exe1.lzh

I have never tried it myself.

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From:                   Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject:                Have Jordanas a DOS-Shell?
> Well, I'm using my lx-200 each day with pleasur and success;
> Particularly I'm glad about the fact, that I can run all my
> own asm-progs, tp-progs and (f.i with pal adapted) c-progs.
>
> But what is, when some day my lx-200 is broken or so?
> Have the jordanas (first the 680/690 - hacking -)) a DOS-shell
At EBAY there are a lot of 200LX units each week. I bought 2 of
them for backup purposes and payed about 300DM for each (they
both are in absolutly perfect condition). Good investment I think,
because I have been heavily using  my 200LX since the day I
purchased it in 1994. I would be missing a lot if my unit would be
gone and I had no replacement.

So long,

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>>would still love to be proved wrong tho.


you couldn't make .lst file in a directory on the desktop to load the
.exm's, was it a .lst or something else? it would be the same as the file on
the hp. sorry if I am too far out in left field on this one

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I remember that a list member was seeking the drivers that let an HP95 use
sandisk flash cards but I can't find the message. I forget who it was. I was
looking for the driver and finally stembled across it. I have a driver
someone sent me a long time ago that I actually never tested. Let me know if
anyone needs it. Send me a fresh email message without the HPLX-L string in
it or it will go in with the rest of the list traffic in my email filters
and I might miss it.

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> I cant remember but perhaps cpack could run a .exm file on the desktop

I think there was some suggestion at one time that the OLD HP95 Cpack
would allow you to "install" exm's to it but I don't know details or if
it were really true.

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Dear list members
I am fast outgrowing my 5Mb HP flash disk.  I notice that there
are a couple of different types of cards out there (ATA and
Sandisks).  What is the state of play on this technology?  Which
are more reliable, draw less current.  I'm thinking a 10 Mb card
should do the trick.  How much should one cost?
TIA
Tony.



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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 14:03:25 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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On the subject of project managers that can work on the HP200, I
have used Lotus Agenda for this purpose.  Coupled with another
program Project Kickstart (I bought from Thaddeus), it works
really well especially for small projects with few tasks.  Once
the complexity of the project grows, Lotus Agenda starts to
perceptibly slow.

I used Lotus Agenda for almost a year and a half as a contact
manager but in the end gave up because it was too slow (on the
HP200 with 800 contacts) and synchronising with Outlook became
important.  Now I use Zoot 4.0 instead.

BTW, Project Kickstart can export files to MS Project.

Cheers
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Zoot 4.0?  Can you tell some more about it?  I hadn't heard of it.

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> Subject: Project managers
>
>
> On the subject of project managers that can work on the HP200, I
> have used Lotus Agenda for this purpose.  Coupled with another
> program Project Kickstart (I bought from Thaddeus), it works
> really well especially for small projects with few tasks.  Once
> the complexity of the project grows, Lotus Agenda starts to
> perceptibly slow.
>

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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Uli,

> If fees for WAP drop as predicted, it could get a hit
> at the end of the year.
> An addition to HV would certainly find a lot of
> interest and users.

It has been repeatedly reported by Avi and Andreas from DASoft that HV
code is completely crammed - no more additions possible (memeory
limitations of the HP200LX). We will have to live without WAP in HV.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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From:                   Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:                Flash disks

> I am fast outgrowing my 5Mb HP flash disk.  I notice that there
> are a couple of different types of cards out there (ATA and
> Sandisks).  What is the state of play on this technology?  Which
> are more reliable, draw less current.  I'm thinking a 10 Mb card
> should do the trick.  How much should one cost?
I advice you to buy at least a 32MB card. These cards are cheap
and you wont outgrow it very fast.
I am using a Kodak picture card in my 200LX. Costs around $100.

So long,

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Go to the SUPER site and search for palrun, which "allows
PAL applications to be run on any IBM compatible computer."

I haven't used it much or in a long time.

  http://www.palmtop.net

Ron

>
> >>would still love to be proved wrong tho.
>
> you couldn't make .lst file in a directory on the desktop to load the
> .exm's, was it a .lst or something else? it would be the same as the =
file on
> the hp. sorry if I am too far out in left field on this one
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Tim,

I'm not an authority on this, but since you've had no other
replies (yet) I'll chip in with my understanding...

I came across the Kak.Worm virus the other day. It has can
produce similar symptoms to the ones you report. It carries a
triggering mechanism by e-mail that is a script. The script
(carried as part of an attached vCard, I believe) "abuses" a
couple of ActiveX controls that are part of Internet Explorer
(IE). Via the ActiveX controls it obtains privileges it
wouldn't otherwise have. These controls had been marked by MS
as "safe for scripting", as they hadn't forseen their misuse.
Outlook Express uses some of IE's code - it's part of the
operating system, right? ;-)

The message you're getting suggests that your system has the
latest security patches applied to IE that mark these two
ActiveX controls as unsafe for scripting and hence block the
virus' nefarious attempts at abusing them.

After a long explanation, I have two further comments:

1) You cannot see the unsafe content (ActiveX) as it's not part
of the e-mail, it's part of IE.

2) I had a friend forward to me his infected e-mail. I examined
it via Post/LX. I also let it arrive into a client called
Turnpike, saved the attachments to disk and looked at them with
a hex editor but could see nothing remotely dodgy.

HTH

----------

Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)


On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Tim wrote:

> Hi All.
>
> Getting email from a friend on Hotmail. Using "Outlook Express" to read =
it
> and getting an error message (only) when I open her email:
>
> "An ActiveX control on this page is not safe. Your current security =
settings
> prohibit running unsafe controls on this page. As a result, this page =
may
> not display as intended."
>
> Can I use Hotmail, to forward the message to an account my LX can =
receive
> and see this "unsafe" content? Or, would most of the LX email programs
> display only the text of the email? I guess my "subquestion" is "Which
> LX-capable email program has a feature that will allow me to 'reveal =
all
> codes' and ferret this out?"
>
> She'd gotten a Melissa-like virus, once, and my antivirus software =
zapped it
> before it got me; could this be the same kind of thing or does she just =
have
> an email program that is adding a cute animation or something to all =
her
> emails (on purpose)?
>
> I haven't heard of any email-propagated, ActiveX virus, but I could've
> missed the news on this one.....
>
> TIA for any advice,
>
> --tim

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For this case I bought a spare one, just in case.

Kind regards

Helmuth


> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> Hello!
>
> Well, I'm using my lx-200 each day with pleasur and success;
> Particularly I'm glad about the fact, that I can run all my
> own asm-progs, tp-progs and (f.i with pal adapted) c-progs.
>
> But what is, when some day my lx-200 is broken or so?
> Have the jordanas (first the 680/690 - hacking -)) a DOS-shell
> to use und program the old progs? Or have I to use Delphi or
> alike?
>
>                 Klaus.
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To cite a leading authority on things LX

>>No, you can't add .EXM programs to the CPACK 100, just .EXE's. The .EXE's
can still be System-Manager Compliant applications.

Everett Kaser<<

and again...

>>Why isn't there support for .EXMs (task swapping) in the HP 100LX
Connectivity Pack?

Due to the size of the "SysMgr" in the HP 100LX CPACK (TKERNEL .EXE), memory
is too tight to allow reasonable task swapping. Remember that the SysMgr on
the HP 100LX added the database engine, GLED (global editor), LHAPI, and
additional System Manager functions. All of these features are necessary in
order to run the HP 100LX applications. This takes memory. It was felt that
it was better not to offer a feature at all than to offer it and not have it
work. http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/12/pt120055.htm
<<

From personal experience, I have never been able to get an EXM
(System-Manager Compliant) program to work on a non-LX machine. Would that
that were not the case.

The nifty, Japanese, project manager program and other EXM programs will not
run on a desktop or laptop. Drats.
.ed.

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In article <454226824160D3118F9D00508B08F15A02624BE4@piouspkldmail.pios.
com>, Striegel, Alan <Striegel@PIOS.COM> writes
>Any hope in this EXM to EXE converter?
>
>http://www.vector.co.jp/ftptx/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/exm2exe1.lzh
>
>I have never tried it myself.
>
>Alan
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Hi,
  I tried, but not much luck so far:

I converted the only executable file pjt2.exm into pjt2.exe using the
utility and this is the difference in binary:

D:\hp200lx\pjt20012>fc pjt2.exe pjt2.exm
Comparing files PJT2.EXE and pjt2.exm
00000000: 4D 44
00000001: 5A 4C
0000001A: 00 CF
0000001B: 00 0F
D:\hp200lx\pjt20012>

A small but critical change!!

Now I can add the icon to the cpack200 and I can launch the application
from the system manager emulator but it crashes the system manager (i.e.
fails to run!!!)
I fully replicated the directory structure on my PC (c drive plus the
_dat directory and then the same directories on the d: drive)

I am using win 95b on a PII 350mhz (256mb ram, 10gb HD)

I do not have any clue about what it requires: the cpack200 structure is
based on this sequence of programs:
- tkernel (5.0.0)
- cg (1.0)
- launcher.com

I could not find a way to launch an application on its own, for example.

The site you listed was good, it has a lot of stuff, but it is in
Japanese... unfortunately I do not speak a bare word of that language.

Maybe, it just does not run on a PC.

Any clue?

bye
--
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> I remember that a list member was seeking
> the drivers that let an HP95 use sandisk flash
> cards but I can't find the message. I forget who
> it was. I was looking for the driver and finally
> stembled across it. I have a driver someone
> sent me a long time ago that I actually never tested.

Theres a driver on the Sandisk site for this purpose but I couldn't
make it work.  It says it's to make a SDP5 Sandisk card (I have an
old 10 meg SDP5) work on the 95lx.

I don't really have any need to make that work so I didn't try very
hard.  I was just curious.  But I spent about 10 minutes with it and
used their sample autoexec.bat and/or config.sys and it didn't work.

If someone does make that work, would you let me know?

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 10:33:29 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I am fast outgrowing my 5Mb HP flash disk.  I notice
> that there are a couple of different types of cards out
> there (ATA and Sandisks).  What is the state of play
> on this technology?  Which are more reliable, draw
> less current.  I'm thinking a 10 Mb card should do the
> trick.  How much should one cost?

ATA is a type of interface which is generally compatible with the
200lx.  SanDisk is a brand name.  They manufacture what are probably
the best quality flash cards.  They are ATA.  They use the longest
lasting memory and usually draw less power than the others.  I say
usually because it's a race and it goes back and forth.  SanDisk is
more expensive.

I would reccomend getting a SanDisk compact flash and an adapter for
the 200lx.  That lets you use the card without the adapter for other
devices.  I use mine in the 200lx and laptop with the adapater and
in my desktop compact flash reader/writer without the adapater.
That makes backups really easy and and it's simple to move stuff
around.  I also can use them in my camera without the adapter.

If you don't have or plan to get any other devices that can use
compact flash, the full size card is about the same price but you'll
save the $13 for the adapater.  The adapter's are very nicely made
and fit snugly and come off easily.  It's a nice package.

There are other popular brands that work fine in the 200lx, such as
Simple Technology's cards.  They cost less but they currently draw
more power.

Most compact flash and PCMCIA flash manufacturers give detailed
information on their websites if you want to compare them.

Some brands won't work on the 200lx.  I think most will but I don't
know which ones won't.  Some require a driver to work.  I think
Simple and SanDisk both work fine without drivers.  But I'm only
sure of SanDisk because that's all I've used.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 08:45:00 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Subject:      PCMCIA ATA Disks,Processors and Zip drive is Available.
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.

They are in excellent Condition!
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging.

(1)  Iomega 100 Meg  External Zip drive
(1) $25.00 plus $7.00 for shipping and packaging.


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just Awesome!  and the
people I have worked with have been just great!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:56:02 +0100
Reply-To:     Laurence Harvey <lharvey@ntlworld.com>
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From:         Laurence Harvey <lharvey@NTLWORLD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Exm programs and CPACK200
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Longden Loo wrote:
>Have you acutally done this?
>
>I thought Pal programs (which I thought PALRUN was written for) were EXEs
and
>not EXMs.  I've never been able to run an EXM from my desktop, tho I'll
confess
>to never having tried very hard.

Oops, you're right, PALRUN only allows PAL based EXEs to be run on the
desktop.

Looks like I got a bit confused, but at least it sparked a spate of on-topic
discussion ;-)

Sorry for the error.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 18:14:00 +0100
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From:         "Richard E. McEvoy" <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE>
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA CARD Reader
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Apologies Alban, his e-mail address is buchent@pacbell.net



Alban Pearce wrote:

> Hi I just Tried to E-Mail <buchalter@pacbell.net>
> But got a unknown address message
> I have been trying to buy one of these devices do you have any more info ...
>
> On 18 Oct 00, at 23:12, Richard E. McEvoy wrote:
>
> Last June someone posted a note about a PCMCIA card reader/writer (CardDock Model Gs-220M from Greystone Peripheral) which was being offered by Daniel Buchalter in San Leandro for $30 plus a modest shipping charge for the USA - but $23.42 for Ireland 8-( .

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 12:04:35 -0600
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              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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Hey Scott,

I'll take the Zip Drive for $32.00 and two more of your 20mb
PCMCIA ATA II flash disks. Total $97.00. Does the Zip drive have
the AC adapter? Any chance I can send you a check this time or
would you prefer a MO. Let me know.
Thanks, buddy.

Bob

On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 08:45:00 -0700, Scott  wrote:
>I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent=
 condition.
>
>
>(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
>
>They are in excellent Condition!
>One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
>I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00=
 for
>shipping and packaging.
>
>(1)  Iomega 100 Meg  External Zip drive
>(1) $25.00 plus $7.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
>(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
>One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
>Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
>Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send=
 payment
>to
>my address at:
>
>Scott Moore
>20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
>Beaverton, Or 97006
>
>Notes:
>
>I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment=
 and
>let
>you know that your disks are on the way.
>
>I always send out disks and other products  the very next day=
 unless
>I
>receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on
>Monday.
>
>I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place=
 them
>in a
>thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.
>
>All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been=
 used
to
>test a customer's new prototype product at work.
>
>
>If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let=
 me
>know
>and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.
>
>The response over the last few months has been just Awesome! =
 and
the
>people I have worked with have been just great!   Thanks alot!
>
>Scott
>
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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:20:19 +0200
Reply-To:     furlan@gmx.net
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From:         Werner Furlan <furlan@GMX.NET>
Organization: OE9FWV
Subject:      IRDA Print capability of HP990 CXI :-)
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I got no feedback from the list on my question above, so I
jumped into the cold water and it was warm :-)
The new deskjet 990CXI works with HP200 IRDA printing.

What I am still looking for is the print command for setting the
top printing line to zero. As ususal there are no print commands
available in the manuals anymore :-(
If there is nobody on the list who knows it by heart I will have to
dig out an old printer manual to find the code.

Werner



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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 15:05:59 -0400
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Hi Folks, just in case anyone of you missed, I want to let you
all know that the clock in the office says 7.30pm October 20
2000. It said that since about 7.30p last night :) ...

I stopped the clock for the weekend, and will plug it in again
on Monday morning. So if you missed the deadline to upgrade
WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
another chance this weekend to email it in.

Thanks!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:37:07 +0300
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              Serge K <snk_by@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Serge K <snk_by@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi all!
Yesterday I came across the prgrm that allows to change a lot of things in
a win software.
So my first try was GDBWIN - it got English menus now.  (I bet some of you
said -YES!!!)
So if anyone is interested - let me know.

Serge
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<html>
<font size=3>Hi all!<br>
Yesterday I came across the prgrm that allows to change a lot of things
in a win software.<br>
So my first try was GDBWIN - it got English menus now.&nbsp; (I bet some
of you said -YES!!!)<br>
So if anyone is interested - let me know.<br>
<br>
Serge</font></html>

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 14:48:27 -0700
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--- Giampi <giampi1@GALACTICA.IT> wrote:
> Is it possible to sort the programs by date?
>

YES, one of the old Norton utilities will doo it.
A new one will 2 but takes more space.




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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:14:41 +0200
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              Giampi <giampi1@GALACTICA.IT>
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Ciao!

I'm very very interested!!!

Let me know...

Giampi

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:26:46 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> I stopped the clock for the weekend, and will plug it in again
> on Monday morning. So if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> another chance this weekend to email it in.

Neat trick.  I wonder if I can delay some deadlines that way, too!

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:49:32 GMT
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              Petty Family <hap_py@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Scott,

Looks as if I will need another 20mb ATA Flash disk.  I did not hear from
you about my current card.  Let me know

Alan


>From: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              Scott
><smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: PCMCIA ATA Disks,Processors and Zip drive is Available.
>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 08:45:00 -0700
>
>I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.
>
>
>(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
>
>They are in excellent Condition!
>One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
>I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
>shipping and packaging.
>
>(1)  Iomega 100 Meg  External Zip drive
>(1) $25.00 plus $7.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
>(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
>One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
>Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
>Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
>my address at:
>
>Scott Moore
>20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
>Beaverton, Or 97006
>
>Notes:
>
>I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
>you know that your disks are on the way.
>
>I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
>receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.
>
>I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
>thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.
>
>All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
>test a customer's new prototype product at work.
>
>
>If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
>and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.
>
>The response over the last few months has been just Awesome!  and the
>people I have worked with have been just great!   Thanks alot!
>
>Scott
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:12:35 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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FRAMES is the draft of an offline frames browser for the palmtop.

My main intention in writing FRAMES was, to reveal the last
secrets, the palmtop kept, like the built in rotation feature
and virtual screens (also called clip regions) which fit almost
perfect with the frames concept.

Don't expect too much from FRAMES. It shall just show, that
frames are well possible on the palmtop.

FRAMES is open source and everybody who likes to use the draft
as a starting point for further development is welcome.

FRAMES is written in C--. I chose C-- for several reasons:
It produces the smallest and fastest code. FRAMES is just 5KB.
Libraries don't add to code overhead, because functions are
only attracted if used. Look at C-- as a subset of C with
features of C++. C-- is also a complete assembler. You may
switch between C and assembly whenever you want, even in the
middle of a line of code.

The compiler works perfect and fast on the palmtop.
Unfortunately I cannot remember who pointed me to it, but it
must have been someone from this list.

One ulterior motive was indeed, to let D&A think over the
discontinued HV, because it's easier to add FRAMES to HV than
HV to FRAMES.

And last but not least I also wanted to show, that the palmtop
is not dead.

Download FRAMES from

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/frames.zip

On my homepage and in the doc of FRAMES you will find links to
the freeware C-- compiler.

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:40:03 +0000
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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Guys,

This is a really great product, especially for the $39.00. This is a
great value. The program suite really makes the 200LX one lean and mean
internet solution. Take my word for it, you won't be disappointed if you
upgrade.

William E. Blankenship

A Meshar wrote:
> if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> another chance this weekend to email it in.
>
> Thanks!
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:01:49 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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Dear List Members,

I thought this info may be interesting to some people.  Does anyone have
any experience with Tamiya cars (they are the latest craze among teenagers)
rechargeable batteries?  They are NIMH and are rated at 2800 mah.  That's
not a typo error.  A four pack also only costs US$2.  That's also not a
typo error.  Just curious.

Oliver Chua
bud@mindgate.net
someone who always uses alkaline

BTW, if anyone replies, kindly furnish me a copy of the post to my private
email.  I'm waaaay behind in reading the digests.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 18:29:19 -0700
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              cyeager <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
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ii

On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Oliver Chua wrote:
q
> Dear List Members,
>
> I thought this info may be interesting to some people.  Does anyone have
> any experience with Tamiya cars (they are the latest craze among teenagers)
> rechargeable batteries?  They are NIMH and are rated at 2800 mah.  That's
> not a typo error.  A four pack also only costs US$2.  That's also not a
> typo error.  Just curious.
>
> Oliver Chua
> bud@mindgate.net
> someone who always uses alkaline
>
> BTW, if anyone replies, kindly furnish me a copy of the post to my private
> email.  I'm waaaay behind in reading the digests.
>
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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 19:15:40 -0700
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Deginitely interested in GDBWin with English menus.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 19:15:38 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Many times, on April 15th at night, the post office does that
- they simply stop the clock and keep accepting income tax
returns well beyond midnight to help the last minute
stragglers get in just under the wire.

F. Kaufman wrote:
> > I stopped the clock for the weekend, and will plug it in again
> > on Monday morning. So if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> > WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> > another chance this weekend to email it in.
>
> Neat trick.  I wonder if I can delay some deadlines that way, too!
>
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Don't miss out on this WWW/LX Version 3 Upgrade Offer Expiry
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What is the total (comfortable) disk space needed to run this suite? I would
need to run email and telnet with this, and need my PCMCIA slot for my
ehternet adapter so everything would have to reside on drive C.  Right now
I've got about 2mb free on the C drive of my 8mb 200 LX.  TIA.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> WEB
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 4:40 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Don't miss out on this WWW/LX Version 3 Upgrade Offer Expiry
>
>
> Guys,
>
> This is a really great product, especially for the $39.00. This is a
> great value. The program suite really makes the 200LX one
> lean and mean
> internet solution. Take my word for it, you won't be
> disappointed if you
> upgrade.
>
> William E. Blankenship
>
> A Meshar wrote:
> > if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> > WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> > another chance this weekend to email it in.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >   Avi M. İD&A¨
> >   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> > I stopped the clock for the weekend, and will plug it in again
> > on Monday morning. So if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> > WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> > another chance this weekend to email it in.

Where the Hp200lx is a dos machine....can you access anything with www/lx?
Will it access any web sites or email?  I got the impression from this
newsgroup that no email was compatible with dos.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:22:00 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Ken,

You replied to the FLUFF message so I just dropped that so that you
are more widely read (G)

> > > I stopped the clock for the weekend, and will plug it in again
> > > on Monday morning. So if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> > > WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> > > another chance this weekend to email it in.
>
> Where the Hp200lx is a dos machine....can you access anything with www/lx?
> Will it access any web sites or email?  I got the impression from this
> newsgroup that no email was compatible with dos.


If I understand the question - WWW/lx with the POST module does EMAIL
and all of this runs in DOS on the DOS HP200 (and 100).  As a matter of
fact that is the only email suite I use - I use it on the HP200 and on
my home and Work Win98 machines in a dos window using the Palrun
emulator that folks were mentioning (altho, in that thread, it was the
wrong context - exm)

As a matter of fact this reply is being composed in a dos box on my
win98 machine using WWW and POST.

Also, you can use the whole suite to do newsgroups and you can
even cruise the web using HV (a free component) altho, as the web
evolves into complicated permutations, hv is more and more limited
altho, I know you were following the mapblast question - that was
developed so that folks could cruise to his site and get maps under HV.

As as Stefan referenced in his FRAMES announcement, HV does not do
frames but he hopes to convince the powers (programmers!) that be, that
maybe, just maybe it can.

Hope this helps.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:48:42 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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One of the things that was confusing about www/lx was that some poeple in
this newsgroup were complaining about not being able to get an e-mail
account that supported dos.  For me that seemed like e-mail on the 200lx was
impossible.  Is it possible to get email on the 200lx?  Can the 200lx suft
the web?  After following many of the threads in this newsgroup I'm not sure
what can be done on the 200lx as far as email and web surfing.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:02:03 -0700
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> One of the things that was confusing about www/lx was that some poeple in
> this newsgroup were complaining about not being able to get an e-mail
> account that supported dos.  For me that seemed like e-mail on the 200lx was
> impossible.  Is it possible to get email on the 200lx?  Can the 200lx suft
> the web?  After following many of the threads in this newsgroup I'm not sure
> what can be done on the 200lx as far as email and web surfing.

I think most of the complaints have been about connecting to free ISP's,
or some of the global ISP's like AOL and Compuserve, or other ISP's that
use web-based email. Most ISP's will probably work with the LX, although
very few will offer any technical support for DOS, and indeed many will
say that you must be using Win95+, but that's only because the kids they
got in technical support have never used DOS.

You just have to figure it out yourself if they won't help, but once you
do, there are a number of email clients which work well on the LX. The
previously mentioned Post/LX heads the list. Others include Goin' Postal,
PNR (uses the LXTCP package), ccLXPop (also uses LXTCP and the built-in
ccMail program), and Nettamer. All of these are designed for the LX. I've
also used PC-Pine on the LX and I understand Pegasus Mail for DOS also
works.

Web surfing is another matter. WWW/LX and HV work well on simple pages. HV
doesn't support java or javascript and has limited support of tables and
frames. It is a challenge to find useful websites, but some that I
regularly use are Altavista and Deja(news). You have to find their text
based pages though.

Unfortuneately, there really is no other option for the web. The Arachne
web browser runs on the LX, but even on my DS LX I found it painfully
slow. A version of Bobcat (like Lynx) also runs on the palmtop. Again,
very slowly, and it's only text based anyway.

So, to summarize, email definitely works on LX, but websurfing is limited.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:36:35 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> > > I stopped the clock for the weekend, and will plug it in again
> > > on Monday morning. So if you missed the deadline to upgrade
> > > WWW/LX Version 2 to WWW/LX Version 3 for $39.00, you got
> > > another chance this weekend to email it in.
>
> Where the Hp200lx is a dos machine....can you access anything with =
www/lx?
> Will it access any web sites or email?  I got the impression from this
> newsgroup that no email was compatible with dos.

Yes you can - many of us here use WWW/LX and the HP200LX to do their
e-mail and internet stuff.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:29:46 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Ken,

Ken wrote:
> One of the things that was confusing about www/lx was that some poeple in
> this newsgroup were complaining about not being able to get an e-mail
> account that supported dos.

The server that serves email has no clue what the operating
system is on _your_ machine.

I think what these people complained about is that they cannot
access their email using the World Wide Web (and HV) to do it.
We do not support Java or Javascript with HV and most, if not
all of these web-basd email services use Java and Javascript. .

>  For me that seemed like e-mail on the 200lx was
> impossible.

Misunderstanding on your part.

>  Is it possible to get email on the 200lx?  Can the 200lx suft
> the web?

Yes and yes. This email is written using Post/LX on a 200LX.


> After following many of the threads in this newsgroup I'm not sure
> what can be done on the 200lx as far as email and web surfing.

Yes it can!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:29:43 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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<< can you access anything with www/lx? >>

"Anything" is a huge word. I even have sites on the Internet
and the WWW that my Netscape 4.75 (almost latest!) cannot
access.

<< Will it access any web sites >>

DEFINITELY NOT! There are many many sites that use constructs
and facilities waaaaay beyond the capability of HV (the
program which "paints" the screen.) WWw.EXE can access them
just fine, but HV cannot paint them. There will be more and
more as the WWW becomes more glitzy...

<< or email? >>

POP3 and SMTP definitely yes, unless they are non-standard
such as AOL!

IMAP we now support partially.

We-based email that uses Java and Javascript to show the
stuff, no - that is back to the HV limitations.

<< I got the impression from this newsgroup that no email was
compatible with dos. >>

This is not a newsgroup but a list, but that's a nit. I have
no idea where you got that impression. I am doing email on the
palmtop since 1995 - POP3 email.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com


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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:51:40 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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I notice that my .pst file in outlook is up to 112Mb long.  The
share volume of email messages and the need to archive them and
all their attachments would probably make the HP200 a difficult
platform to use as a prime email client.  This is the reason why I
haven't tried using my HP200 for email.  My ISP provides webmail
so when I'm travelling I just use cybercafes, or a colleagues
desktop to surf to my email.

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf
Of
Ken
Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2000 17:49
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: WWW/LX Version 3 Upgrade Offer Expiry


One of the things that was confusing about www/lx was that some
poeple in
this newsgroup were complaining about not being able to get an
e-mail
account that supported dos.  For me that seemed like e-mail on the
200lx was
impossible.  Is it possible to get email on the 200lx?  Can the
200lx suft
the web?  After following many of the threads in this newsgroup
I'm not sure
what can be done on the 200lx as far as email and web surfing.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:35:14 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu wrote:

>    I would like to add code to launch Vern Buerg's LIST program to view
>    default files (not HTM, WAV). You have seem to have a viewer built
>    in, but it does not scroll multiple screens (or am I missing
>    something?)

You missed nothing. My viewer cannot scroll. It's just a draft.

>    Would this be an easy modification to make?

Yes it is and it's a pleasure for me to do it for you who
offers this list to all of us for free.

In the new version of FRAMES you may now press Alt-L in the
full screen mode of default files to launch Vern Buerg's LIST.

Stefan

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:47:25 EDT
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Serge,
Yes, yes. Oooooh, can I have one?

Dennis
(The SweatHog)

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:35:52 -0400
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Nathan Olsen <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM> wrote:

> given the Megahertz "All Points" radio modem card and "Infowave"
> program that I found along with the Palmtop, what are my options as far =
as
> wireless email and/or internet access?  Is that hardware and/or software
> still usable in today's wireless market?

To be honest, I am not optomistic about how far you are going
to get with that wireless card in the palmtop.  I don't know of
anyone doing it now.  I really don't think that stuff worked
out too well.  You will need to find a service provider that
has coverage in your area.  I just can't imagine that the
palmtop's 2 AA batteries have enough juice to power the palmtop
AND a radio transmitter.  You will probably be locked into a
specific provider and a specific program to access the Email. I
can't imagine that they still support a DOS version.

I think you would be much better off with a cel phone that has
a built in modem and connect it to the serial port of the
palmtop.  I do this and it works GREAT! I can use any ISP and
any software that runs on the palmtop.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:39:53 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF Re: WWW/LX Version 3 Upgrade Offer Expiry
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Ken wrote:
> Where the Hp200lx is a dos machine....can you access anything with www/lx?
> Will it access any web sites or email?  I got the impression from this
> newsgroup that no email was compatible with dos.

I do ALL my private email and ALL my newsgroups on an HP200LX running
WWW/LX v2.  While I've purchased v3 I haven't migrated to it (yet).

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:56:13 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> It has been repeatedly reported by Avi
> and Andreas from DASoft that HV code
> is completely crammed - no more
> additions possible (memeory limitations
> of the HP200LX). We will have to live
> without WAP in HV.

Not if the program is all written in C using Pal.  If they haven't
tried optimizing for space with assembly language, they aren't near
it's capacity yet.  But, maybe they have done that.  I don't really
know.

I haven't seen the HV code so maybe it's such that a lot of
optimizing can't be done.  But if they used Turbo C 2 I'm sure a lot
can be done.  Also Pal isn't conservative with space either.  Even
MS C 6, which has an optimizer and generally produces smaller faster
executables than Turbo C, isn't that good by today's standards.

Barry

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> The message you're getting suggests
> that your system has the latest security
> patches applied to IE that mark these two
> ActiveX controls as unsafe for scripting
> and hence block the virus' nefarious
> attempts at abusing them.

I recently installed the latest IE updates and I've been getting
that warning about unsafe activex scripts on a couple of sites that
I feel fairly confident are safe sites.  Your explanation might
account for this.

The sites are probably calling functions that were designated as ok
so they're likely to be legitimate calls.  But the sites probably
haven't been updated as recently as IE.

It isn't really a problem so far.  I get the warning, tell it to go
on with the rest of the page, which it does, skipping that function
and I can't ever tell the difference.  But I've been protected.

The next site I find that on might not work, but so far I haven't
seen any problems at all.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:15:17 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Tony Kan,

Tony Kan wrote:
> I notice that my .pst file in outlook is up to 112Mb long.  The
> share volume of email messages and the need to archive them and
> all their attachments would probably make the HP200 a difficult
> platform to use as a prime email client.  This is the reason why I
> haven't tried using my HP200 for email.  My ISP provides webmail
> so when I'm travelling I just use cybercafes, or a colleagues
> desktop to surf to my email.

My experience is maybe extreme, and I am a highly motivated
user to use our product, so this report is definitely biased,
but it is true, so you can draw your own own conclusions.

I think the palmtop is a terrific platform for email. I have 8
active mailboxes, and I get email from all of them EACH time I
login. I can separate my emails effectively with filters to
help me read.

I have probably 40 folders where my messages are kept. Some
are on C: drive some on my A: drive. The C drive folders are
all the actual mailboxes and those I filters messages into,
the others are archival in nature since I manually move things
into them, they are all on A: drive.

I keep and maintain over 50,000 messages on the palmtop. I
have about 40MB in messages and programs on C: and another
10MB on the A: drive.

About attachments: I process these as fast ans I can and get
rid of them. Post/LX has commands to save them as files and to
strip them from messages.

All this is very simple for me, and I have been doing it since
1995 or 1996.

I run the entire email of D&A, including support right out of
the palmtop. The also means orders. I also am involved in
three other businesses and all the email for those businesses
runs on the palmtop as well.

You should not make any assumptions about doing things on the
palmtop - instead try it.

Last word about the Web-based email: It is fun, and I use it
occasionally too. But I am very very leery about doing it on
any public computer. Think about it: When you login you type
your password. When you receive and _read_ a message from your
boss or about competition, it is on a public computer. You may
be lulled to thinking that it is only on the screen, and you
erase the screen, but that is a dangerous oblivion. If you see
it, it is already on the disk drive of the machine you use at
that cafe, and possibly even on theri local server disk
drives. It is EXTREMELY likely that it is a machine that is
snooped on by hackers, since these are machiines with a stable
IP. Sure, they may have anti-hackers measures, or not - you do
not know, and frnakly, they don't care!

If you are happy with the prospect of love letters to your
wife to be shared with some hacker from some other country, or
maybe a nice confidential email from someone else being shared
by whoever - maybe even sold by the hacker to your competition
- then you have the solution in cybercafes. But I think you
just had no idea this is so.

I'll let other people comment on the cybercafes safety and on
my opinion on them.

All the best.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:35:31 -0500
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> What I am still looking for is the print
> command for setting the top printing
> line to zero. As ususal there are no print
> commands available in the manuals
> anymore :-(
> If there is nobody on the list who knows
> it by heart I will have to dig out an old
> printer manual to find the code.

Here are a couple of url's pointing to files that probably have the
information you need.  They're all on Wotsits site.

HP PCL5 Printer Control Language  (this is probably what you need)
http://www.wotsit.org/download.asp?f=pcl5

Hewlett Packard Graphics Language
http://www.wotsit.org/download.asp?f=hpgl2

The first one is probably what you need.

Just in case you need postscript there's also:

PostScript Printer Description File Format Specification Version 4.3
http://www.wotsit.org/download.asp?f=ppd

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> I thought this info may be interesting to
> some people.  Does anyone have any
> experience with Tamiya cars (they are
> the latest craze among teenagers)
> rechargeable batteries?  They are NIMH
> and are rated at 2800 mah.  That's not a
> typo error.  A four pack also only costs US$2.
>  That's also not a typo error.  Just curious.

I did a web search and I can't find anything like that.  Tamiya's
web site, www.tamiya.com has a parts list for their cars that
includes a Nicad 7.2 volt battery that's long and flat and has 2
wire leads.  I also checked their list of new products but I
couldn't find anything.

From the look of that battery it could possibly hold 4 AA batteries.
I couldn't get any sense of the size.  I'm judging by it's shape.
But even that's 4.8 volts.  And they have 2 models of the battery.
One is 1200 mAH and one is 1700.  Neither of those make much sense
for multiple AA batteries.

Anybody know where this might be found?

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:54:44 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> What is the total (comfortable) disk space needed to run this suite?

My program directory for WWW/LX takes up 800K.  I use Pal-Edit to type my
messages and it takes another 100K.  This is with the documentation and =
help
files in place.  If I deleted them I could save 100K or more.  My data
directory currently has 700K in it, but I keep a lot of old E-mails =
around.  I
have run WWW/LX from the 1.4 Meg C: drive of a 2 Meg 200LX before.  =
During that
time, I read and deleted E-mails promptly.  Then I tended to stay below =
200K
for data.  I generally get around 100 E-mails a day from 3 different POP3
mailboxes.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:54:47 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> Is it possible to get email on the 200lx?
> Can the 200lx suft the web?

I use my 200LX for all of my E-mail.  My desktop is never involved.  I =
check 3
accounts/addresses daily and have two others I check occasionally.  My =
palmtop
processes around 100 E-mails a day.  I use a PCMCIA modem and either =
Compuserve
or 1 Nation Online for ISPs.  I read and type replies to all the E-mail =
on my
palmtop (including this one).

So, the 200LX with WWW/LX and Post/LX is a powerful option for E-mail.

I have used WWW/LX and HV to browse the web.  It is much more limited, =
however.
  I really only use it in "emergecy".  For example, I tried it from a =
Hotel
 room while on a trip.  I wanted to sign up for a conference via a web =
page,
 but HV couldn't do the page well (I got all of my E-mail from the same =
hotel
 room, hoever).  I really only have good luck with palmtop friendly web =
pages
 like dasoft.com and hplx.net.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:03:38 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Carder" <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
I use my 200LX for all of my E-mail.  My desktop is never involved.  I check
3
accounts/addresses daily and have two others I check occasionally.  My
palmtop
processes around 100 E-mails a day.

I gave my old 200lx to my brother in law who lives in a remote section of
West Virginia.  I want to get him hooked up to the internet...he now has the
200lx and a 486 running widows 3.1.   I have no idea what (if any) internet
providers are available in the his area.  I would not be surprised to find
there was no ISP in his area (much less one that supports DOS).  Any
suggestions?

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:49:19 +0300
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              Serge K <snk_by@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi all!
I'm not going to keep it secret for a long time :-)
This is a link to a soft that let you do it easily on your own

http://www.bome.com/Restorator/

So now we'll see more good progs to make our beloved LXs
even more useful.
(Are there any more those good Japanese programs :-)

Serge Kozhemiakin

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<font size=3>Hi all!<br>
I'm not going to keep it secret for a long time :-)<br>
This is a link to a soft that let you do it easily on your own<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.bome.com/Restorator/" eudora="autourl">http://www.bome.com/Restorator/</a><br>
<br>
So now we'll see more good progs to make our beloved LXs<br>
even more useful. <br>
(Are there any more those good Japanese programs :-)<br>
<br>
Serge Kozhemiakin<br>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:36:24 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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How about -- and I've mentioned this in the past -- having a version of HV (or
an altogether completely different program) that only does WAP? Shouldn't be
that hard, since tables/screenplacement/font/etc are not involved: just text and
links and basic HTML.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Oct 2000 to 21 Oct 2000 (#2000-361)


> > It has been repeatedly reported by Avi
> > and Andreas from DASoft that HV code
> > is completely crammed - no more
> > additions possible (memeory limitations
> > of the HP200LX). We will have to live
> > without WAP in HV.
>
> Not if the program is all written in C using Pal.  If they haven't
> tried optimizing for space with assembly language, they aren't near
> it's capacity yet.  But, maybe they have done that.  I don't really
> know.
>
> I haven't seen the HV code so maybe it's such that a lot of
> optimizing can't be done.  But if they used Turbo C 2 I'm sure a lot
> can be done.  Also Pal isn't conservative with space either.  Even
> MS C 6, which has an optimizer and generally produces smaller faster
> executables than Turbo C, isn't that good by today's standards.
>
> Barry
>
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>

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Was looking at this site....it doesn't appear that it will work on Dos =
programs or the hp200lx.=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Serge K=20
  To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: GDBWin (English menus) HOW TO MAKE IT !!!


  Hi all!
  I'm not going to keep it secret for a long time :-)
  This is a link to a soft that let you do it easily on your own

  http://www.bome.com/Restorator/

  So now we'll see more good progs to make our beloved LXs
  even more useful.=20
  (Are there any more those good Japanese programs :-)

  Serge Kozhemiakin


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Was looking at this site....it doesn't =
appear that=20
it will work on Dos programs or the hp200lx.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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K</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu"=20
  title=3DHPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 22, 2000 =
4:49=20
  PM</DIV>
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menus) HOW=20
  TO MAKE IT !!!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D3>Hi all!<BR>I'm not going to keep it =
secret for a=20
  long time :-)<BR>This is a link to a soft that let you do it easily on =
your=20
  own<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://www.bome.com/Restorator/"=20
  eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.bome.com/Restorator/</A><BR><BR>So now =
we'll see=20
  more good progs to make our beloved LXs<BR>even more useful. <BR>(Are =
there=20
  any more those good Japanese programs :-)<BR><BR>Serge=20
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:35:50 +1300
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> I thought this info may be interesting to
> some people.  Does anyone have any
> experience with Tamiya cars (they are
> the latest craze among teenagers)
> rechargeable batteries?  They are NIMH
> and are rated at 2800 mah.  That's not a
> typo error.  A four pack also only costs US$2.
>  That's also not a typo error.  Just curious.

>>From the look of that battery it could possibly hold 4 AA batteries.
>>I couldn't get any sense of the size.  I'm judging by it's shape.
>>But even that's 4.8 volts.  And they have 2 models of the battery.
>>One is 1200 mAH and one is 1700.  Neither of those make much sense
>>for multiple AA batteries.

The 'Tamiya' batteries of which you speak, are, in terms of physical
size, the standard battery pack form for all 1/10 scale Radio Controlled
Car racing throughout the world.
The cells are 'Sub-C' size, about twice the volume of AAs, and until
recently were entirely NiCds. The ONLY manufacturer who has been able
to produce quality, high-current-capable, robust NiCd cells is Sanyo.
No other manufacturer's racing packs are used anywhere in the world
by serious racers. Even the Tamiya packs contain Sanyo cells.
The racing packs consist of six cells in series, producing a nominal
voltage of 7.2 volts, although this is of course only realised at very
low discharge rates.
These NiCd Cells were originally only available with an energy capacity
of 1200mAH, but since 1989, cells of 1400, 1700, 2000 and most recently,
2400mAH. have been developed.
Also very recently, NiMH cells of sufficient current capability have
become available with 3000mAH energy capacity in the Sub-C format.
These have now been approved for racing by the world body (IFMAR).

The R/C racing cars fall into two main categories: Offroad and Onroad.
Within these two groups there are a multitude of racing classes based
on mechanical design and/or body style.
The current draw of the 'mildest' class, Formula 1 Stock, is in the
region of 20 Amps average over a five-minute race, with peaks of 30A.
By contrast the draw for the premier classes, 4WD Modified Offroad
and Modified Touring Car Onroad, averages 30 Amps with peaks of more
than 60A over a 4 minute race.
We ALWAYS fast-charge our NiCd cells at currents between 3 and 6 Amps,
yet they last at least two years of racing every weekend. It is even
claimed that fast-charging is beneficial to the cells by preventing
the buildup of crystal growths within the cells. The chargers we use
are also quite sophisticated, using a voltage-peak detection method
to determine full charge, some also including computer-controlled
charging profiles to further reduce crystal growth.

It is claimed that the new NiMH cells will be as able to cope with
this apparent abuse in both charging and usage as the NiCds have
proven to be.

A final word about prices: Top grade 2000mAH matched Sub-C NiCd
cells cost from $US10 to $US30 EACH. That's per cell.
NiMH cells are said to be only slightly more expensive.
You can buy low grade unmatched cells for less, of course.
I don't know where you saw $2 cells, but they must be really bad.

I realise all of the above is of no significance to us as LX users
in our search for AAs that will last forever, except that it shows
the steady rate of development in rechargeable cells and charging
technology is far from ended.

Hope everyone will forgive me for not labelling this FLUFF.

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:19:15 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Exm programs and CPACK200

Hi Luca and Alan,

>>Any hope in this EXM to EXE converter?
>>
>>http://www.vector.co.jp/ftptx/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/exm2exe1.lzh
>>
>>I have never tried it myself.
>>
>>Alan
>>
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>
>Hi,
> I tried, but not much luck so far:
>
>I converted the only executable file pjt2.exm into pjt2.exe using the
>utility and this is the difference in binary:

The above post got me curious, so I downloaded "exm2exe1.lzh" and melted
"exm2exe.exe" and "readme.doc" from that archive with "lha e exm2exe1".
I found the "readme.doc" file  filled with nonstandard characters that
looked like giberish to me, so I have no idea how to use exm2exe.

Is it possible that the utility is Japanese and it's documentation is
written using non-standard characters, or did the archive somehow get
garbled during the download?

If it is indeed a Japanese utility, could anyone provide a translation
for that short readme.doc file in English?

Thanks in advance,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:46:19 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Flash Disks

>> I am fast outgrowing my 5Mb HP flash disk.  I notice
>> that there are a couple of different types of cards out
>> there (ATA and Sandisks).  What is the state of play
>> on this technology?  Which are more reliable, draw
>> less current.  I'm thinking a 10 Mb card should do the
>> trick.  How much should one cost?
>
>ATA is a type of interface which is generally compatible with the
>200lx.  SanDisk is a brand name.  They manufacture what are probably
>the best quality flash cards.  They are ATA.  They use the longest
>lasting memory and usually draw less power than the others.  I say
>usually because it's a race and it goes back and forth.  SanDisk is
>more expensive.
>
>I would recommend getting a SanDisk compact flash and an adapter for
>the 200lx.  That lets you use the card without the adapter for other
>devices.  I use mine in the 200lx and laptop with the adapater and
>in my desktop compact flash reader/writer without the adapater.
>That makes backups really easy and and it's simple to move stuff
>around.  I also can use them in my camera without the adapter.
>
>If you don't have or plan to get any other devices that can use
>compact flash, the full size card is about the same price but you'll
>save the $13 for the adapater.  The adapter's are very nicely made
>and fit snugly and come off easily.  It's a nice package.
>
>There are other popular brands that work fine in the 200lx, such as
>Simple Technology's cards.  They cost less but they currently draw
>more power.
>
>Most compact flash and PCMCIA flash manufacturers give detailed
>information on their websites if you want to compare them.
>
>Some brands won't work on the 200lx.  I think most will but I don't
>know which ones won't.  Some require a driver to work.  I think
>Simple and SanDisk both work fine without drivers.  But I'm only
>sure of SanDisk because that's all I've used.
>
>Barry

I'd just like to add a little note to the excellent advise above from
Barry.

If you have a digital camera, make sure to check the maximum size CF card
that it can use.

My HP200LX is a double speed 32 meg, but when I checked my Digital camera
for the maximum size CF card it could use, I discovered that it could not
use a CF card that was larger than 30 megs.

I found that a 30 meg SanDisk CF card with an adapter was really cheap at
various sales sites on the internet.  The 30 meg SanDisk CF card I
purchased works well in all of my devices and it's only 2 megs short of
the 32 meg CF card that I would have purchased.

I don't have more than 30 megs of files on my HP200LX anyway, so that
compromise offered a CF card that still works great for backing up my
HP200LX. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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WOW!

Avremo Gdbwin in italiano!?

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> One of the things that was confusing about www/lx was that some poeple in
> this newsgroup were complaining about not being able to get an e-mail
> account that supported dos.  For me that seemed like e-mail on the 200lx was
> impossible.  Is it possible to get email on the 200lx?  Can the 200lx suft
> the web?  After following many of the threads in this newsgroup I'm not sure
> what can be done on the 200lx as far as email and web surfing.

As was mentioned, the issue seemed to be finding FREE email clients
(both for windows and probably for dos).

The www/lx suite contains an email reader (POST), a newsgroup module -
Robot scripts for newsgroups, and HV for surfing.  There are also some
other add-ons for ftp and downloading a page or more (GET).

The POST module works for email.  I use it for both my AT&T account and
for two CIS accounts and I understand its new IMAP even works for the
newer cis2000 email. (Tony??)

As was mentioned, many ISP's only know windows.  I went through this
with AT&T.  Actually, I beta tested POST/www with AT&T and watched
Andreas code and debug it based on my info to him in about 48 hours - it
was the first CHAP email protocol supported.  It was a fairly amazing
coding effort from my view.  All along AT&T kept telling me it could not
work with dos.  Even now they tell me it canNOT work with dos!!!!  Sad,
huh!

In many cases, I will admit, you probably do need a Windows machine to
initiate some of these accounts but once that is done, the HP with an
email client works fine.

As was mentioned there are other DOS email clients.  I did use Nettamer
before POST was available.  It is a bit disjointed in its interface but
works.  It is shareware.  I don't know the other products mentioned.

Hope this clarifies things (a bit)

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Hi All,

Just curious.  Does anyone know if there is a DOS emulator available for
Palm organizers?

Both Juno and Yahoo offer free Palm VII software that allows one to
wirelessly access their email.

I'm still working on a project that might result in free access to my
Juno email and possibly even Yahoo email access from my HP200LX.

If that project doesn't yield free access to my email from my HP200LX, I
would then contemplate purchasing a TrgPro to be used with a regular
modem card or even a Palm VIIx for relatively expensive wireless access.

Cheers!

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> Just curious.  Does anyone know if there is a DOS emulator available for
> Palm organizers?
>
> Both Juno and Yahoo offer free Palm VII software that allows one to
> wirelessly access their email.

None, that I know of or have found. The Palm VII apps are different than
the apps that run on the Palm V and lower. They make use of the wireless,
web clipping that the Palm VII does. The borrowed Palm V that I am
currently using is currently loaded with Eudora and is working quite
nicely while combined with my Qualcomm phone for wireless access to email.

Jeff

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Hello All,

I found a freeware Resource Hacker recently at:

http://www.rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker/index.html

It works great also. I originally started to edit the GDBWIN resources
directly in the EXE, but I only got so far with it. These resource editors
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Barry,

Barry wrote:
> > It has been repeatedly reported by Avi
> > and Andreas from DASoft that HV code
> > is completely crammed - no more
> > additions possible (memeory limitations
> > of the HP200LX). We will have to live
> > without WAP in HV.
>
> Not if the program is all written in C using Pal. If they haven't
> tried optimizing for space with assembly language, they aren't near
> it's capacity yet.  But, maybe they have done that.  I don't really
> know.

HV is mostly C but also parts in Assembler. It is about as
optimized as humanly possible. Additions will cause the code
to go to the large model and that means that EVERY pointer in
the program will grow, and it means the entire program will
grow to hyge proportions making it impossible to run it in the
palmtop. So the choice is this: Not being able to run HV on
many many (and growing number) of Webpages, or not running at
all. I certainly don't think it makes a lot of sense to do
work on the program just to kill it.

> I haven't seen the HV code so maybe it's such that a lot of
> optimizing can't be done.  But if they used Turbo C 2 I'm sure a lot
> can be done.

Not so. It is optimized to the hilt.

> Also Pal isn't conservative with space either.  Even
> MS C 6, which has an optimizer and generally produces smaller faster
> executables than Turbo C, isn't that good by today's standards.

Do you suggest rewriting the PAL functionality long hand? Nah!
that is too big a job. In some cases Andreas had to do so
anyway.

I appreciate your caution in making judgements and critique
about code you have not seen. Thank you! It is much easier to
comment on a cuatious post like yours than others in the past.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Subject: Fluff: DOS emulator for the Palm?

There is a dos emulator for the pocket pc.

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I'm curious why?

Bob

Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> Actually, the following should be labelled "boring".
>

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I believe looking at where they came from (homeland) would show where we
are going, like father, like son.

Bob

>
> Of course with enough immigration maybe Buddist or Muslim or Catholic
> prayers will be common in public schools - I want to see your opinions
> then: "Daddy (or Grandaddy) who was Muhammad?"
>

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Subject: HV Code
>
> HV is mostly C but also parts in Assembler. It is about as
> optimized as humanly possible. Additions will cause the code
> to go to the large model and that means that EVERY pointer in
> the program will grow, and it means the entire program will
> grow to hyge proportions making it impossible to run it in the
> palmtop. So the choice is this: Not being able to run HV on
> many many (and growing number) of Webpages, or not running at
> all. I certainly don't think it makes a lot of sense to do
> work on the program just to kill it.

I didn't know you'd already been using asm.  However, it's usually
possible to add major sections of code even in a small model program
if you use far pointers just to it and pass it far pointers to data
it needs to access.  A far function in C.  I've written some fairly
large programs in small model.

However I do realize that doing that in a program that isn't
designed with that in mind isn't always going to be practical.

> > Also Pal isn't conservative with space either.  Even
> > MS C 6, which has an optimizer and generally produces smaller
faster
> > executables than Turbo C, isn't that good by today's standards.
>
> Do you suggest rewriting the PAL functionality long hand? Nah!
> that is too big a job. In some cases Andreas had to do so
> anyway.

I wasn't suggesting rewriting PAL.  I was thinking about replacing
some of it's functions with asm functions.  My comment about PAL
wasn't really connected to my comment about the compilers.  I should
have made that a seprate paragraph, I guess.

> I appreciate your caution in making judgements and critique
> about code you have not seen. Thank you! It is much easier to
> comment on a cuatious post like yours than others in the past.

Well, I haven't seen it but that doesn't stop me from having an
opinion.  I've never tasted okra but I'm sure I hate it.  :)

Barry

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HI
Can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of GDB Win. I was told I can on=
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get it from Nifty Serve.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Please forgive me for the last two responses. They were supposed to go
to the responding individuals and my face is red! I didn't check my
addressing carefully, like a secret message getting into the wrong
hands.

Again, I apologize.

Bob


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Can you give more specifics --
  Where to buy them?
  Specs -- size, etc?

Never heard of them (the nearest mall is 100 miles!)

Bob

Oliver Chua wrote:
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> Dear List Members,
>
> I thought this info may be interesting to some people.  Does anyone have
> any experience with Tamiya cars (they are the latest craze among teenagers)
> rechargeable batteries?  They are NIMH and are rated at 2800 mah.  That's
> not a typo error.  A four pack also only costs US$2.  That's also not a
> typo error.  Just curious.
>
> Oliver Chua
> bud@mindgate.net
> someone who always uses alkaline
>
> BTW, if anyone replies, kindly furnish me a copy of the post to my private
> email.  I'm waaaay behind in reading the digests.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:18:12 +0200
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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>Well, my sram card lasted about a year with its coin cell.

my 1mb Newton sram card has had the same coin cell battery since August 1995
and is still not showing a low warning after 5 years!

how long are they supposed to last when left inside the LX?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:20:14 +0200
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...and here is the latest about mobile technofads (Japan, where else):

When the school day is over in downtown Tokyo, it's a common sight to see
groups of schoolgirls huddled around them, giggling. Later, as darkness
gathers on a packed train, office workers sit hunched over them, tapping
obsessively. In the time it takes you to read this mesage, at least another
100 Japanese people will have acquired an Internet-ready telephone. I-mode
is Japan's latest technofad, and it looks all set to sweep the rest of the
world and sink WAP in the process. Just as talking has become one of the
least exciting things to do with a mobile phone, getting from point A to
point B may soon be one of the more boring reasons for owning a car. If
Japanese researchers achieve their goals, main roads will become news
channels and drive-through jukeboxes where motorists will be able to request
music files and Web pages from signposts and traffic lights. Cars themselves
will be fitted with Global Positioning System receivers and wireless
Internet connections which will turn them into roving traffic reporters and
make every traffic jam a potential karaoke party. Today the term digital
highway is a metaphor. Tomorrow it will be a reality.
 http://www.newscientist.com/nl/1021/karaoke.html and sayonara.html

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:29:04 +0200
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my server has not let all messages through

so, here it is for some of the 34 list members who requested WordSmart:

disregard the warning on screen about being outdated version; just input
parameters - works like a charm - takes only a fraction of a second to do
any 1mb text!

parameters:

-L       Specify the left margin; must be followed by a number
         indicating the number of spaces to add at the left
         margin.

-R       Specify the right margin; must be followed by a number
         indicating the maximum line width.

-W       Write output file; must be followed by the name of the
         file to write.

-O       Over-write an existing file without query. This option
         takes no arguments.

-F       Remove form-feed characters. This option takes no
         arguments.

-S       Remove runs of multiple spaces, reducing the string
         of spaces to one space only. This option takes no
         arguments.

-I       Send a WordSmart registration form directly to the
         printer. This option takes no arguments.

-B       Removes all blank lines past one. -B0 removes all.

-Q       "Quiet" mode - no screen display at all during or
         after processing. This option takes no arguments.
         AVAILABLE ONLY IN THE REGISTERED VERSION.


     __o      regards from Nathalie in France with my LX
  _(\<._      in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside
 (_)/ (_)     ready to put down my thoughts for wonderful list members like
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:17:27 +0200
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In article <20001022.194651.11310.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com>, John J
Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> writes
>Hi Luca and Alan,
>
>>>Any hope in this EXM to EXE converter?
>>>
>>>http://www.vector.co.jp/ftptx/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/exm2exe1.lzh
>>>
>>>I have never tried it myself.
>>>
>>>Alan
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>>Hi,
>> I tried, but not much luck so far:
>>
>>I converted the only executable file pjt2.exm into pjt2.exe using the
>>utility and this is the difference in binary:
>
>The above post got me curious, so I downloaded "exm2exe1.lzh" and melted
>"exm2exe.exe" and "readme.doc" from that archive with "lha e exm2exe1".
>I found the "readme.doc" file  filled with nonstandard characters that
>looked like giberish to me, so I have no idea how to use exm2exe.
>
>Is it possible that the utility is Japanese and it's documentation is
>written using non-standard characters, or did the archive somehow get
>garbled during the download?
>
>If it is indeed a Japanese utility, could anyone provide a translation
>for that short readme.doc file in English?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
>________________________________________________________________
>YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
>Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
>Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
>http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Hi John,
    unfortunately I cannot help with Japanese, is there a Japanese to
English translator around (on the likes of Altavista's or Babylon's)?

I just ran it and parsed a exm file. But no idea about flags nor logic
either.

Also the website presentation of the sw is fully (and only) in Japanese

Bye
--
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:26:26 +0800
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Subject:      Re: GDBWin (English menus) -> more Japanese software
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Serge K wrote:
>(Are there any more those good Japanese programs :-)

A quick search of the HPLX-L archives showed recent requests for English
translations of the following useful Japanese software:-

FIT - where to find this?

TODO.EXM - available on SUPER site

X-Finder - available on SUPER site

PJT2 (Project Management software) - available on SUPER site

GDB2CSV - where to find this?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:56:49 +0800
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At 08:52 PM 10/22/00 -0700, Tony Guzewicz wrote:

 >Can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of GDB Win. I was told I can only
 >get it from Nifty Serve.

The original GDBWin software, in Japanese, can be downloaded from:-

http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh (173kb)

Serge K <snk_by@YAHOO.COM> has found a way to display the menu in English,
making it more usable for most of us non-Japanese.  Thanks Serge.

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Thanks.Tony

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:25:59 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:Re: Bible programs
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> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> +--------------------------------------+

Anyone know which of this software will run on the 200lx?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:57:52 -0400
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              Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
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Thanks again, Stefan,
in your doc to frames  you mention Palmpc, but the link to that site
doesn't work at present time.
Is there another possible source?
Uli

> FRAMES is the draft of an offline frames browser for the palmtop.
>
> My main intention in writing FRAMES was, to reveal the last
> secrets, the palmtop kept, like the built in rotation feature
> and virtual screens (also called clip regions) which fit almost
> perfect with the frames concept.
>
> Don't expect too much from FRAMES. It shall just show, that
> frames are well possible on the palmtop.
>
> FRAMES is open source and everybody who likes to use the draft
> as a starting point for further development is welcome.
>
> FRAMES is written in C--. I chose C-- for several reasons:
> It produces the smallest and fastest code. FRAMES is just 5KB.
> Libraries don't add to code overhead, because functions are
> only attracted if used. Look at C-- as a subset of C with
> features of C++. C-- is also a complete assembler. You may
> switch between C and assembly whenever you want, even in the
> middle of a line of code.
>
> The compiler works perfect and fast on the palmtop.
> Unfortunately I cannot remember who pointed me to it, but it
> must have been someone from this list.
>
> One ulterior motive was indeed, to let D&A think over the
> discontinued HV, because it's easier to add FRAMES to HV than
> HV to FRAMES.
>
> And last but not least I also wanted to show, that the palmtop
> is not dead.
>
> Download FRAMES from
>
> http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/frames.zip
>
> On my homepage and in the doc of FRAMES you will find links to
> the freeware C-- compiler.
>
> Stefan
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:34:59 -0500
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Would strongly suggest that you concentrate on the LX without the
wireless card until you are at home with the unit.  I would suggest that
you start with a Compact Flash storage card and a PCMCIA adapter and hit
the SUPER site with an RC and Moon Pie to keep you nourished as you
browse the offerings there.

The wireless card will serve you better in a laptop.

In general the LX will run any program that does not require extended
memory (and I would avoid programs that require expanded memory)

Replace the batteries with NiMH units and set SysMgr/System/Batteries to
NiCads and enable charging. (Start with a fully charged pair)

Then come back here for help with each question... and be careful not to
drop the unit... and a prayer to whomever for your luck.

--
Hope this Helps...
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:15:35 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:Re: Bible programs
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I run Wordsearch for Dos v2.2 which comes standard with NIV.
Really speedy searches.  Has a built in notepad for copy and
pasting verses.  Tried emailing Navpress to see if they would
release it as copyrighted freeware.  They say they have royalties
to pay on every copy.  I suggested that some people would pay but
I haven't heard any further response since.

There are freeware packages around like HisWord and Bible Online
but they use bible versions that I've never heard of before like
Darcy.
Cheers
Tony.

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Subject: Re: FLUFF:Re: Bible programs


> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> +--------------------------------------+

Anyone know which of this software will run on the 200lx?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:46:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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> There are freeware packages around like HisWord and Bible Online
> but they use bible versions that I've never heard of before like
> Darcy.

Tony:

I run HisWord regularly with the King James translation, the New
International Version, and the New Revised Stanard.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:01:00 +0800
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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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>I did a web search and I can't find anything like that.  Tamiya's
>web site, www.tamiya.com has a parts list for their cars that
>includes a Nicad 7.2 volt battery that's long and flat and has 2
>wire leads.  I also checked their list of new products but I
>couldn't find anything.

For over a year now, they have new sets of racers that are only about 3-4
inches long (about triple the size of a matchbox toy).  These cars use AA
sized batteries.  Tamiya has their own brand of batteries but none as high
as 2800mah.  But the local Tamiya stores carry other 3rd party brands like
Sanyo, Sony, GP, etc and they do carry batteries upto 2800 mah.


>>From the look of that battery it could possibly hold 4 AA batteries.
>I couldn't get any sense of the size.  I'm judging by it's shape.
>But even that's 4.8 volts.  And they have 2 models of the battery.
>One is 1200 mAH and one is 1700.  Neither of those make much sense
>for multiple AA batteries.

You are clearly looking at the wrong stuff.  These are the Radio Controlled
(RC) cars your talking about.  The new Tamiya cars (don't know what they
are called) are not RC controlled and have only small motors in them that
make them go-n-go-n-go around a racetrack which you can pit your car
against another fellow car racer.  However, similar to the RC cars, they
have plenty of parts that you can replace or customize.

Oliver
bud@mindgate.net

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Date:         Sun, 5 Jul 1998 15:53:38 +0300
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Hi all!
Today I've finished the translation of GDBWin menus to English.
I've sent the copy to Al Kind so he can post it on his FTP site.
In the zip file you'll also find mall txt with description what
is still cryptic to me :-) Please send your comments

Regards,
Serge Kozhemiakin
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<font size=3>Hi all!<br>
Today I've finished the translation of GDBWin menus to English.<br>
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is still cryptic to me :-) Please send your comments<br>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:22:45 -0400
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You should turn off return receipt requested.

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> Then come back here for help with each question... and be careful not to
> drop the unit... and a prayer to whomever for your luck.
> Hope this Helps...
>  Beverly Howard

The 200lx is rugged it will survive a few drops as I have discovered through
experience.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:43:48 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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>>I wasn't suggesting rewriting PAL.  I was thinking about replacing
>>some of it's functions with asm functions.  My comment about PAL

it wouldn't be such a bad idea to do the PAL library in assembler it would
be much faster I would imagine, there are a few tiny pieces of assembler
even in it now.

>>I've never tasted okra but I'm sure I hate it.  :)

ya never know, fried okra is actually pretty good

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>>The original GDBWin software, in Japanese, can be downloaded from:-
>>
>>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh (173kb)


I couldn't go directly to this link I got some kind of permission forbidden
error, I was able to access the program from

http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/

but you have to navigate through the Japanese screens to find gdbwin

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:34:55 -0400
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http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:48:13 -0500
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Serge,

For more about the English Menu System in GDBWin, try www.palmtoppaper.com
and click on the What's New icon and look at the GDBwin entry. Toshiki
Sasabe seems to have a good translation of all the menu items.

When you have a final version, let me know where you will post the updated
version for download. I'll add the URL to the tip on the Palmtop Paper
Online site.

.ed.İPTP¨

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:40:52 -0500
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Do you have any idea where I might find these on the web?

Barry

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Subject: Re: Tamiya batteries


>
> >I did a web search and I can't find anything like that.  Tamiya's
> >web site, www.tamiya.com has a parts list for their cars that
> >includes a Nicad 7.2 volt battery that's long and flat and has 2
> >wire leads.  I also checked their list of new products but I
> >couldn't find anything.
>
> For over a year now, they have new sets of racers that are only
about 3-4
> inches long (about triple the size of a matchbox toy).  These cars
use AA
> sized batteries.  Tamiya has their own brand of batteries but none
as high
> as 2800mah.  But the local Tamiya stores carry other 3rd party
brands like
> Sanyo, Sony, GP, etc and they do carry batteries upto 2800 mah.
>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:42:02 -0400
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Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:28:43 -0500 (EST)

GDBWinE can be found by anon FTP to:

FTP:\\137.99.86.127

Cheers...AJKind


On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Serge K wrote:

> Hi all!
> Today I've finished the translation of GDBWin menus to English.
> I've sent the copy to Al Kind so he can post it on his FTP site.
> In the zip file you'll also find mall txt with description what
> is still cryptic to me :-) Please send your comments
>
> Regards,
> Serge Kozhemiakin
*
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:00:21 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Tachna" <ltachna@royalzenith.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: HV Code


>
> >>I wasn't suggesting rewriting PAL.  I was thinking about
replacing
> >>some of it's functions with asm functions.  My comment about PAL
>
> it wouldn't be such a bad idea to do the PAL library in assembler
it would
> be much faster I would imagine, there are a few tiny pieces of
assembler
> even in it now.

I didn't know that.  Grrr.

When the PAL project started I didn't realize who it's leader was
and I thought it was Harry Konstas who wrote the package that the
idea for PAL was based on.  So I posted a message offering to write
a an assembly replacement for the rom graphic functions, to speed
things up.  They're fairly slow.

Harry sent me an email saying ok and I wrote it.  But when I
announced that it was ready, Gillis Kohl said he didn't want
anything written in assembly and they didn't use it.

So I just assumed there was no assembly in it.  I guess it was added
later because that began a discussion about using assembly
functions.  Gillis was afraid it would scare away beginning
programmers.

Oh well.  :)

Barry

> >>I've never tasted okra but I'm sure I hate it.  :)
>
> ya never know, fried okra is actually pretty good

Your prejudice is showing.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:43:59 -0700
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> When the PAL project started I didn't realize who it's leader was
> and I thought it was Harry Konstas who wrote the package that the
> idea for PAL was based on.  So I posted a message offering to write
> a an assembly replacement for the rom graphic functions, to speed
> things up.  They're fairly slow.
>
> Harry sent me an email saying ok and I wrote it.  But when I
> announced that it was ready, Gillis Kohl said he didn't want
> anything written in assembly and they didn't use it.

Do you still have this? Maybe you could make it available as a PAL addon,
like GDBREAD and PALDate.

Mike

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:52:28 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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The DOS version of PC Study Bible runs on the LX.  It's a bit slow unless
you  have one of Mack's machines.

Anyone know which of this software will run on the 200lx?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:48:29 -0700
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Just a note to announce that I have officially pulled Goin' Postal from
the market.  The market has dwindled to the point that a manual reorder
isn't worthwhile.  Since my LX has sat with a dead battery the whole year,
and I have all but stopped reading the digests from this forum, it's time
to say goodbye.

Avi, I wish you and Andreas good luck!  You have a fine product and I hope
you are able to continue being profitable in supporting the LX.

I may release Goin' Postal under GPL sometime in the future, but currently
don't have time to prepare it.

Good luck to everyone!

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:01:53 -0400
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Hi all,

1) When Mike Kopplin started up his LXMapBlast page, there was
a comment on LXPIC not supporting interlaced GIF's.  I started
back a work on my GIF decoder to see if I could help out.  Of
course in a day or so, Stefan Peichl came out with a GIF dein-
terlacer.  But I felt I would at least get my program to work
on the 200LX.  While looking for references I came across my
_Old_ copy of Minix.  There was an effort a while back to port
Minix to the 200LX.  If anybody is still working on this, they
can have my copy for the shipping cost.  It's version 1.5 and
(I think) has a complete hard copy listing of all the sources
supplied on the 360k floppies.

Any Minix coders out there?

2) I now can display GIF's on the 200LX with my program.  And
I have a much better feeling as to why LXPIC dosen't support
transparency and interlaced variants.  But, if someone wants
to watch an interlaced GIF on the 200LX and doesn't have a real
viewer already, I can send my decoder to them.  I think I've
wasted enough time and effort to convince me to use other
people's programs for a long time to come.  Thanks again to
Stefan for LXPIC.

Anybody not using a real picture viewer and want a copy of my
not so real one before it goes into hibernation?

3) I bought a Radio Shack display panel sight unseen (out of
the catalog) and it uses a parallel interface (rats).  Has
anyone used a serial to parallel interface of some sort to hook
up devices?  Has anyone used the LPT port to talk to a non-
standard parallel device?  Does someone have a tutorial on the
new high-speed, bi-directional parallel ports?  And, unless
there is an easy way to do something with the 200LX, what's the
best way to put a display panel shaped hole in a 5 1/4" diskette
faceplate?

There are 3 control lines and 8 data lines on the panel.

Steve
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:16:04 -0700
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Hello!

Well, I'm trying to use f.exe to make icons, but the format
of saved files seems to be a (corrupted?) pcx-format, which
I can't transform to a bmp- or icn-format. Who has a hint?

                Klaus.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:34:47 -0500
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I'm not sure.   I'll take a look.  I did send a copy to Harry
Konstas with source, so if I don't, he might.  He did some testing
on it and liked the speed and he said he planned to use it.

Barry

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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: HV Code


>
> > When the PAL project started I didn't realize who it's leader
was
> > and I thought it was Harry Konstas who wrote the package that
the
> > idea for PAL was based on.  So I posted a message offering to
write
> > a an assembly replacement for the rom graphic functions, to
speed
> > things up.  They're fairly slow.
> >
> > Harry sent me an email saying ok and I wrote it.  But when I
> > announced that it was ready, Gillis Kohl said he didn't want
> > anything written in assembly and they didn't use it.
>
> Do you still have this? Maybe you could make it available as a PAL
addon,
> like GDBREAD and PALDate.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:34:28 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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The general recommendation is usually to replace lithium button cells on SRAM
every year, regardless of the use.

Lithium batteries have a shelf life of 5 years, so your Newton card may be on
its last milliamp ... another quirk of lithium cells is that they die quickly as
they near the end of their life, in contrast to other types where the voltages
taper noticeably before they fall off the power curve and into the low battery
warning.

- Longden





Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> on 10/22/2000 08:18:12 PM

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Subject:  SRAM cards



>Well, my sram card lasted about a year with its coin cell.

my 1mb Newton sram card has had the same coin cell battery since August 1995
and is still not showing a low warning after 5 years!

how long are they supposed to last when left inside the LX?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:56:20 -0400
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John J Vanderstel wrote:
> I'm still working on a project that might result in free access to my
> Juno email and possibly even Yahoo email access from my HP200LX.

This comment caught my eye.

You can get today a free email to Yahoo and be able to access
the email on your palmtop via their offering of POP3 and SMTP.
All you need to do is open an email account then click on
OPTIONS, then MEIL DELIVERY STATUS and choose "Web and POP
Access". This will yield you also their advertising emails on
a regular basis, but also a POP3/SMTP access. You can then
access that POP3 email using WWW/LX for example. They will
give you their server names.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:48:05 -0500
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              Bob Erb <erb@CONTROL.COM>
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I want to sync my desktop PIM data, accessible in
iCalendar form, with that on my palmtop.

iCalendar should be able to sync with the built-in
calendar and to-do list on the lx200. Don't know
about the contact stuff.

Is there something out there that does this?
If there isn't, is there some obvious reason I
shouldn't write it . . . in Python?


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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:59:18 +0200
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              Luca Campeis <luca.campeis@LIBERO.IT>
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Subject:      Re: PJT2 Export (was Re: Exm programs and CPACK200)
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In article <CA25697D.007E3D36.00@d73mta03.au.ibm.com>, Roger Whitmarsh
<lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> writes
>Luca wrote:
>
>>I found this pjt2001 program and installed it, it seems good as it is an
>>EXM application well integrated into the System Manager. Still, there is
>>no way I can export data to any format nor to run the EXM application
>>into the CPACK200 connectivity package either.
>>Would you know of any solution to such a question?
>
>I've never bothered to run any LX software on a desktop, but I understand
>it can be done using PAL. Others on the list will hopefully jump in here.
>
>You can supposedly export the project data to another LX database, but I
>have never got this to work.
>The only export facility appears to be via Print. This produces a CSV
>file which can be loaded into Excel and maybe Access, etc.
>The format of this *.txt file is as follows:
>
>Proj  Actvty
>Letr  Number          %    Strt  Fin   Dependencies   Unknown  Cost
>A-Z    1-99   Desc  Cmplt  Date  Date   1    2    3    Field   /day
>----  ------  ----  -----  ----  ----  ---  ---  ---  -------  ----
>
>(Continued)
>
>                       Start  Finish
>                       Time   Time
>Duration  Rest  Fix    0=am   0=pm    Note
>(days)    0/1   0/1    1=pm   1=am    Text
>--------  ----  -----  -----  ------  ----
>
>For example:
>
>A,0,House Alterations,13,19/06/2000,31/07/2000,,,,0,0,0,0,,0,0,,
>A,1,Architect,100.19/06/2000,19/06/2000,0,0,0,0,400,1,0,1,0,1,Est,
>A,2,Plan Consent,50,20/06/2000,24/06/2000,1,0,0,0,0,5,0,0,0,0,,
>A,3,Builder,0,27/06/2000,27/06/2000,1,2,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,Needs plans,
>etc
>etc
>
>This info doesn't seem to be acceptable to Microsoft Project, but
>might be to other applications. Excel loves it.
>Either way, I don't think you'll find it easy or even possible to
>work with both PJT2 and some other Project Manager software.
>I'm perfectly happy with only PJT2 and the 200LX, even though I
>have Microsoft Project.
>It's a combination that makes other people in planning meetings
>look very slow and inflexible as they wait for Windows to do
>something or scribble all over their project printouts.
>It's pretty satisfying to flip open the LX, bring up the project
>in seconds, update it, point out any conflicts or problems with
>the new proposals, and put the LX back in the pocket.
>Meanwhile the others are still starting up their software.
>
>Feels good
>
>Cheers, Roger
>
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Hi Roger,
     I think you are right about the software and its use.

Also my problem is not Microsoft Project, even if I use it and since I
discovered the HP200 LX I hate notebooks!.

It is just that sometimes I do not write just a few quick words but I
need to write some notes regarding a task or two and then I find the
hp200lx a bit limited (maybe because I have big fingers! eheheheh)

I would definitely be ready to integrate the DB format used by pjt2 into
another application but then I have a "problem" in uploading back the
notes into the original project in the pjt2 application. The author is
talking about a pjt1 application just able to merge a CSV into a MDB
file.

As I am really new to this list I may have missed previous discussions
about this or similar issues but I think that if there is a solution to
the issue of "sharing" data across different applications, then I think
pjt2 is really complete, honestly.

bye now
--
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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:26:15 +0800
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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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I gather from your signature that you live in the US.  Don't know where you
can buy them there but I gather where you can find the Tamiya cars, you
will find the rechargeable NIMH sized AA batteries.  Toys-R-Us maybe?  I'm
from the Philippines, which is an hour plane ride from Hong Kong.

I can find them in all the malls down here.  Even my neighbor sells them.
In fact, my brother just bought two different packs for his digital camera.
 It works but beats me how it fares compared to the other lower rated ones.
 He bought Tamiya and Sanyo brands.

If list members are still doubtful on what I really saw, I'd be happy to
upload pics of the batteries my brother bought.  Just find someone kind
enough to post them.  Don't want to upload them to an enormous number of
list members.

Oliver

Robert K. Meyer blah, blah, blahed ...
>Can you give more specifics --
>  Where to buy them?
>  Specs -- size, etc?
>
>Never heard of them (the nearest mall is 100 miles!)
>
>Bob
>--
>+--------------------+-----------------+
>|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
>|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
>|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
>+--------------------+-----------------+
>|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
>+--------------------------------------+
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 02:24:11 +0000
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Bummer; fewer choices is not a good thing.

Cheers... Russ


Steven Lawson wrote:
> Just a note to announce that I have officially pulled Goin' Postal from
> the market.  The market has dwindled to the point that a manual reorder
> isn't worthwhile.  Since my LX has sat with a dead battery the whole year,
> and I have all but stopped reading the digests from this forum, it's time
> to say goodbye.
>
> Avi, I wish you and Andreas good luck!  You have a fine product and I hope
> you are able to continue being profitable in supporting the LX.
>
> I may release Goin' Postal under GPL sometime in the future, but currently
> don't have time to prepare it.
>
> Good luck to everyone!

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:52:39 -0400
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> > I may release Goin' Postal under GPL sometime in the future, but
currently
> > don't have time to prepare it.

What is GPL?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:20:48 -0400
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See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html for more info, it say
that the software covered under this license is free, abd you are free to
modify and/or distribute it as you like, but you must make all your code
freely available.

That is the 10 second version, the URL above is the muti-page version.

HTH,

Ken

PS: nearly all linux software is GNU GPL protected...
----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: GP bids you farewell


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> > > I may release Goin' Postal under GPL sometime in the future, but
> currently
> > > don't have time to prepare it.
>
> What is GPL?
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:23:35 -0400
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Well, I think the main problem was that despite the choice being available,
too few choose his offering to sustain his development effort.

The loss of an unexercised choice is not too much.

I, of course, am not judging the software, instead I am merely commenting on
the market for such software.

Thanks,

Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: GP bids you farewell


> Bummer; fewer choices is not a good thing.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
>
> Steven Lawson wrote:
> > Just a note to announce that I have officially pulled Goin' Postal from
> > the market.  The market has dwindled to the point that a manual reorder
> > isn't worthwhile.  Since my LX has sat with a dead battery the whole
year,
> > and I have all but stopped reading the digests from this forum, it's
time
> > to say goodbye.
> >
> > Avi, I wish you and Andreas good luck!  You have a fine product and I
hope
> > you are able to continue being profitable in supporting the LX.
> >
> > I may release Goin' Postal under GPL sometime in the future, but
currently
> > don't have time to prepare it.
> >
> > Good luck to everyone!
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:37:23 -0500
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Ken Hansen wrote:

> The loss of an unexercised choice is not too much.

It just brings us one step closer to a Microsoft type enviroment for the
LX <grin>.

I was the original beta tester for GP. When I read Steve's announcement
today it somewhat saddened me. It is/was a great piece of software and
definitely lean and mean, as far as email clients for the LX go. I even
still have a copy of the original, original beta :-)

Steve made a great contribution to the palmtop community and for this he
should be commended!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:39:23 -0400
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Agreed.

Ken

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 11:37 PM
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> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Ken Hansen wrote:
>
> > The loss of an unexercised choice is not too much.

<snip>

> Steve made a great contribution to the palmtop community and for this he
> should be commended!
>
> Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:26:21 -0700
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> I was the original beta tester for GP. When I read Steve's announcement
> today it somewhat saddened me. It is/was a great piece of software and
> definitely lean and mean, as far as email clients for the LX go. I even
> still have a copy of the original, original beta :-)
>
> Steve made a great contribution to the palmtop community and for this he
> should be commended!

One email client less, when there are a number of options available isn't
a terrible loss. But one less LX developer is. It has been a sad
year. Rod, Brian and now Steve. Who am I forgetting? Most troubling is
that we seem to be losing all the internet related developers.

A sad year indeed.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:04:58 +0000
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> I'm not sure.   I'll take a look.  I did send a copy to Harry
> Konstas with source, so if I don't, he might.  He did some testing
> on it and liked the speed and he said he planned to use it.

Many (most, all??) of Harry's original HP programs were written in
assembler.  And I now forget the name of his first effort to provide a
common library or functions that would ultimately become the PAL stuff.
I guess C was considered a better universal choice.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:05:00 +0000
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> I want to sync my desktop PIM data, accessible in
> iCalendar form, with that on my palmtop.
> Is there something out there that does this?
> If there isn't, is there some obvious reason I
> shouldn't write it . . . in Python?

I don't know the answer to question one but as to adding to the
complement of tools for the hp with another offering - go for it!!! (G)

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 03:46:05 -0400
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Jeff,

I read what you wrote and it focused my own feelings for me. I
really find a similar sentiment in my heart for all the you
wrote. I recall when GP showed up. A bit thereafter you
compared all three products I believe. I felt anxious but also
pleased. Anxious about the effect on WWW/LX - this was a clear
strong contender and the anxiousness was because of my D&A
hat. I was pleased because it was exciting for me as part of
this community to see options, and growth and such creativity.

> Steve made a great contribution to the palmtop community and
> for this he should be commended!

Yes, totally agree. He is bright and also a good person. He
even helped me on several occasions to understand things! I
wrote to Steve in person right away about this.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:27:18 +0200
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hello Serge,

thank you very much for this excellent work.
I found now a way to display the german umlauts correctly in the
program. I changed the font to a Ansi/Ascii font, and now it looks
perfect.

best regards,
Werner


On 5 Jul 1998, at 15:53, Serge K wrote:

> --=====================_17217289==_.ALT
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Hi all!
> Today I've finished the translation of GDBWin menus to English.
> I've sent the copy to Al Kind so he can post it on his FTP site.
> In the zip file you'll also find mall txt with description what
> is still cryptic to me :-) Please send your comments
>
> Regards,
> Serge Kozhemiakin
>
> --=====================_17217289==_.ALT
> Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
>
> <html>
> <font size=3>Hi all!<br>
> Today I've finished the translation of GDBWin menus to English.<br> I've
> sent the copy to Al Kind so he can post it on his FTP site.<br> In the
> zip file you'll also find mall txt with description what <br> is still
> cryptic to me :-) Please send your comments<br> <br> Regards,<br> Serge
> Kozhemiakin</font></html>
>
> --=====================_17217289==_.ALT--
>



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Subject:      Re: GDBWin with English menus, final version
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hi Ejnar,

goto options/options/fonts and double click on the existing fonts. Your
windows fonts appear and you can choose from there a font, that
displays your special characters.

Werner


On 24 Oct 2000, at 11:58, Ejnar Zacho Rath wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 11:27:18AM +0200, Werner Furlan wrote:
> > hello Serge,
> >
> > thank you very much for this excellent work.
> > I found now a way to display the german umlauts correctly in the
> > program. I changed the font to a Ansi/Ascii font, and now it looks
> > perfect.
> Where did you do that?  I have a similar problem with the special
> danish letters.
>
> > best regards,
> > Werner
>
> Best regards,
> --
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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:18:01 +0000
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Steve Novosad wrote:

> ...I think I've
> wasted enough time and effort to convince me to use other
> people's programs for a long time to come.  Thanks again to
> Stefan for LXPIC.

Thank you for the flowers ;-)
Believe me, GIF decoding was a walk compared to JPEG decoding.

> Anybody not using a real picture viewer and want a copy of my
> not so real one before it goes into hibernation?

I would like to have a copy.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:17:59 +0000
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Ulrich Allen wrote:

> in your doc to frames  you mention Palmpc, but the link to that site
> doesn't work at present time.

The link is:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/palmpc.zip

I just checked it again, and I was able to download it.

FYI, you need PALMPC to run FRAMES on desktops. You cannot
use PALRUN or INT5F, which only support a subset of the
palmtop's graphics functions (those used by PAL).

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:58:25 -0700
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Does anyone have a copy of the registered version of Goin Postal
with the printed manual they'd be willing to sell at this time?  Or,
a copy/photocopy of the printed manual?  I contacted Steve yester-
day morning re: help & registration and apparently he is out of the
manuals..  I would sincerely like to utilize this product, having very
little space to mount on my LX.  Please contact me on or off-list.

Quoted from Steve's reply:

Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:34:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: support@sdl.continet.com (Goin' Postal Support)

I'm sorry, Goin' Postal has been pulled from the market.  Registrations
have dwindled to the point a reorder of manuals would be a waste of
money.  Registrations began a steady decline with HPs announcement they
were dropping the LX to the point I now receive one every few months.
I'm thinking about releasing a freeware or opensource version,
though I will need to dedicate some time to make that happen.
If you haven't tried it already, POST/LX from DASoft is a very nice
commercial email package.

End Quote.

(note) I attempted to d/l the POST/LX ver listed on Super, and got
a 404 page.  I have roughly 1meg of space available, for both an
email program and the resulting downloaded mail to share.  I'm not
at this time interested in utilizing my LX for anything beyond email,
so while I recognize WWW/LX as a fine product, it surpasses my
needs.  I checked out a few other email-only programs, and Steve's
documentation (so far) is the only documentation my little noodle
has a chance with.  Please assist.

Tom L. McCoy
Fontana, CA

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> I gave my old 200lx to my brother in law who lives in a remote section =
of
> West Virginia.  I want to get him hooked up to the internet...he now =
has the
> 200lx and a 486 running widows 3.1.   I have no idea what (if any) =
internet
> providers are available in the his area.

I use Compuserve (a "classic" account, NOT the newer Compuserve2000 type) =
and <
Nation Online for ISPs.  Here is my list of Compuserve phone numbers for =
WV.
Although the list was downloaded over a year ago, I think it is still =
accurate.
 Would any of these work for him?  If so, check into a "classic" Compuserv=
e
account.

Charleston        WV 304/342-0153  300-33,600         CPS V34
Huntington        WV 304/733-0026  300-33,600         CPS V34
Morgantown        WV 304/291-6783  300-33,600         CPS V34
Parkersburg       WV 304/424-6003  300-33,600         CPS V34
Wheeling          WV 304/233-9508  300-33,600         CPS V34

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> The above post got me curious, so I downloaded "exm2exe1.lzh" and =
melted
> "exm2exe.exe" and "readme.doc" from that archive with "lha e exm2exe1".
> I found the "readme.doc" file  filled with nonstandard characters that
> looked like giberish to me, so I have no idea how to use exm2exe.

File compression with *.LZH is popular in Japan, so I suspect that the =
problem
is that the readme.doc is in Japanese.

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Here is a mini laptop computer that I have listed on eBay. I forgot to
mention in the listing that it also has IR capabilities. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=477814374

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:28:39 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Date:    Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:18:12 +0200
> From:    Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
> Subject: SRAM cards
>
> >Well, my sram card lasted about a year with its coin cell.
>
> my 1mb Newton sram card has had the same
> coin cell battery since August 1995 and is still
> not showing a low warning after 5 years!
>
> how long are they supposed to last when left
> inside the LX?

I've had watches and calculators go years without a battery
replacement.  Without exception, when I did replace the battery,
just because it seemed like I should, the device never worked again.

It might be that the sram card you have is made better than my old
timex watches and casio and radio shack calculators so you might not
have that problem.

But you should probably think about whether you should replace the
battery before it's too late, or if it is already too late.

Dillemma time!  Maybe you should pray for advice.

Barry

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> Date:    Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:26:15 +0800
> From:    Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
> Subject: Re: rechargeable batteries
>
> If list members are still doubtful on what I
> really saw, I'd be happy to upload pics of
> the batteries my brother bought.  Just find
> someone kind enough to post them.  Don't
> want to upload them to an enormous
> number of list members.

I apologize if I sounded skeptical.  I'm not.  I don't need proof.

I just want to find out more about them.

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----- Original Message -----
From: <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
>
> Many (most, all??) of Harry's original HP programs were written in
> assembler.  And I now forget the name of his first effort to
provide a
> common library or functions that would ultimately become the PAL
stuff.
> I guess C was considered a better universal choice.

I just looked through my old lx downloads and I found HPTEMP, which
looks like it might have been his first shot at this.  It's a
template to write a dos program that looks like an exm.   I looked
it over a little and it looks like a fairly sophisticated menu
system and some lx only stuff like sleep control, zoom, contrast,
etc..

I found a later one called HPCLIB written in C that looks a lot more
comprehensive.  I think that was his upgrade, and if I remember
correctly he used this to learn C.

I also found a beta of PAL and in the readme Gillis Kohl explains
that it is based on the ideas in HPCLIB.  So I guess that's it.

Why isn't Gillis on this list?  Anybody heard from him?

By the way I saw Harry Konstas' name mentioned a few weeks ago as a
developer on some PDA and I think the topic was that he was
switching from that PDA to the Palm, or maybe the other way around.

Barry

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A Meshar wrote:

> It is optimized to the hilt.

I still see one major source to gain at least a few KB of space:
If HV would only use LXPIC for image display, the GIF code
could be removed from HV.

But being a programmer myself, I totally agree if someone
else decided to not touch a piece of (freeware) code again
for whatever reason.

Never change a running system is true, but the contrary applies
as well: Never run a changing system.

Stefan

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Carder" <steve@carderfamily.net>
 Would any of these work for him?

------New Message---------
none of them are nearby.  does compuserve still have an 800 number?  i had
compuserve earlier this year and got the impresssion that classic compusrve
would be history in coming months.  they already were at the point where
they were not supporting windows 3.1 and absolutely were not supporting dos.

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You might also suggest he look for a "classic" BBS that offers Internet
email. Mine does, but it's not in W.Va. I don't know if he will find one
within a  local calling area, but this format is so efficient that by using
qwkmail, he can log on, download all mail in a compressed packet, and log
off just 1-2 minutes, making the cost negligible.

Jim

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From Avi,

<<I read what you wrote and it focused my own feelings for me. I
really find a similar sentiment in my heart for all the you
wrote. I recall when GP showed up. A bit thereafter you
compared all three products I believe. I felt anxious but also
pleased. Anxious about the effect on WWW/LX - this was a clear
strong contender and the anxiousness was because of my D&A
hat. I was pleased because it was exciting for me as part of
this community to see options, and growth and such creativity.>>

I think Steve and Avi deserve LOTS of credit. I have never witnessed such
cooperation among vendors of competetive products! Almost inevitably, big
market or small, when 2 companies/people go head to head each ends up
disliking the other. Both sides may have good intentions, but just the
nature of competetion for finite dollars seems to have a detrimental effect.
Again kudos to both Avi and Steve.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:07:57 -0700
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Hello!

Especially to the author:
Is it (possible or) planned to load a pcx-file and save it as a
bmp- or icn-file?

                Klaus.
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Subject:      Re: GP bids you farewell

Message-Id: <20001024173202.WEII20126.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@İ12.72.154.5¨>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:32:07 +0000

While we're mourning the loss of our developer base and applications, let's
not forget to wish them the same good luck they wished on us.

I'm not a GP user (sorry Steve), but I valued his contributions on the list,
both technical and otherwise.

His presence will be missed as much as his apps, but I know we all do wish
him good things in whatever ventures he pursues, and thanks for the memories
and for all the work he did that helped GP and LX users.

- Longden

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   >But you should probably think about whether you should replace the
   >battery before it's too late, or if it is already too late.
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:32:22 +0000

Sound advice.

   >Dillemma time!  Maybe you should pray for advice.

An appeal to this list is a prayer of sorts <g>.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:19:10 -0600
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Subject:      WANT: Mode.com for DOS 3.22/95LX
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Does anyone have a version of MODE.COM that will work with MS-DOS 3.22 on a
95LX? The version that came with my old copy of MS-DOS 3.2 gives an
"Incorrect DOS Version" error. I want to use it to redirect the serial
input.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:37:40 +0300
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              Serge K <snk_by@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi all!
I'm sorry for the previous unfinished version. Sometimes it feels like you
can not continue but you never know what'll happen later :-)

This time I was able to manage almost everything including Color and Fonts
selection in Options as well as Data Card right click menu.

Uff .. this is how far my Japanese goes ... :-)

I believe that eventually I'll be able to do the rest but I'm not
sure how long it'll take so I've decided to release it. I'm sending a copy
to Al Kind
so he can put it on his FTP site. (It really helpful because here in
Belarus Internet
is still quite expensive)

If anyone can help me to recognize what does the following mean I can fix
it fairly quickly:
        right click in full Note editor window - as you'll see there are four
positions
        left untranslated. I have no idea what are they.

Also, working on the menus I noticed that software author was going to include
import/export features into GDBWin. And I believe there are more features
hidden inside.
Can some real programmers on the list check is it possible to complete the
development
of this particular piece of a software.

Regards,
Serge Kozhemiakin


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Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:35:53 +1300 (NZST)

21h39m30s ago ...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Bob Erb wrote:

> I want to sync my desktop PIM data, accessible in
> iCalendar form, with that on my palmtop.
>
> iCalendar should be able to sync with the built-in
> calendar and to-do list on the lx200. Don't know
> about the contact stuff.
>
> Is there something out there that does this?

Bob, have a look at PIM/LX, freeware by Andreas Garzotto.

It can be found at www.dasoft.com and has utilities for converting PIM
<-> vCalendar and also one for converting from the palmtop appt files
to vCalendar.

Tony

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Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:44:01 -0500 (EST)

The GDBWinE FTP site has been updated!

ftp://137.99.86.127

Cheers...AJKind

02h06m21s ago ...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Serge K wrote:

> Hi all!
> I'm sorry for the previous unfinished version. Sometimes it feels like =
you
> can not continue but you never know what'll happen later :-)
>
> This time I was able to manage almost everything including Color and =
Fonts
> selection in Options as well as Data Card right click menu...
>
> I believe that eventually I'll be able to do the rest but I'm not
> sure how long it'll take so I've decided to release it. I'm sending a =
copy
> to Al Kind so he can put it on his FTP site...

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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>>got the impresssion that classic
>>compusrve
>>would be history in coming months.  they already were at the point where

Compuserve sales people have called me three times in the past three months
offering up hundreds of free hours if I would switch from my classic account
to cis2k so they really seem to want to get rid of classic accounts. My
reply was when the classic service wasn't offered anymore I would be
changing providers there would be no going to cis2k or aol for me under any
circumstances. hopefully if they hear this reply enough they will leave
classic running a while longer

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:03:31 +0000
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A Meshar wrote:
> You can get today a free email to Yahoo and be able to access
> the email on your palmtop via their offering of POP3 and SMTP.
> All you need to do is open an email account then click on
> OPTIONS, then MEIL DELIVERY STATUS and choose "Web and POP
> Access". This will yield you also their advertising emails on
> a regular basis, but also a POP3/SMTP access. You can then
> access that POP3 email using WWW/LX for example. They will
> give you their server names.

Avi, I've created a Yahoo email account for myself, n6egj@yahoo.com,
and added a mailbox to wwwlx and can't connect.  I keep getting an
invalid account id message but scrolls away pretty quick.
I have gone to the options to select pop access.

Any ideas?

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> compuserve earlier this year and got the impresssion that classic compusrve
> would be history in coming months.  they already were at the point where
> they were not supporting windows 3.1 and absolutely were not supporting dos.


Cis may not support dos, but dos supports cis (G)

Accis, again, a program designed for the HP100/200 does cis forums and
email and runs on a desktop in a dos windows using palrun.  And tapcis
is still out there, too for dos (a bit large for the HP but some folks
use it, I believe)

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Well, I'm trying to use f.exe to make icons, but the format
> of saved files seems to be a (corrupted?) pcx-format, which
> I can't transform to a bmp- or icn-format. Who has a hint?

The following utility by Brahma will convert a .pcx to a .icn :
http://www.ufo.co.jp/~brahma/lib/pcx_icn.lzh

Instructions are in Japanese, but operation is simple, just use:
pcx2icn filenameİ.pcx¨ newnameİ.icn¨

Important: Make sure your .pcx is 44 wide X 32 tall X 2 colors ...or else
the resulting .icn won't work properly as an LX icon. pcx2icn doesn't check
for correct size (unlike bmp2icn available from SUPER).

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Date:         Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:43:16 +0000
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I recently bought someones used 200LX and all their accessories
including Cpack.  In checking the Cpack disks to be sure they were
all right I discovered that some of the files were older than my Cpack
that I already had.  The older one had files all dated in 1994 while the
newer one had 1995 dated copies of some of the files.

Are there any newer Cpack distributions?

I see posts here about trying to run Cpack under Win*.  I wonder if the
version of Cpack could be part of the problems?

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Barry wrote:
> I've had watches and calculators go years without a battery
> replacement.  Without exception, when I did replace the battery,
> just because it seemed like I should, the device never worked again.

Are you sure you're not jinxed?  :-)
I've replaced plenty of watch and a few calculator batteries without
problems.

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Thanks guys, this is very usefull.

Regards,
Stefan

>
> Date:    Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:42:02 -0400
> From:    Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Subject: Re: GDBWin with English menus, final version
>
> Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:28:43 -0500 (EST)
>
> GDBWinE can be found by anon FTP to:
>
> FTP:\\137.99.86.127
>
> Cheers...AJKind
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Serge K wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> > Today I've finished the translation of GDBWin menus to English.
> > I've sent the copy to Al Kind so he can post it on his FTP site.
> > In the zip file you'll also find mall txt with description what
> > is still cryptic to me :-) Please send your comments
> >
> > Regards,
> > Serge Kozhemiakin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: SRAM cards


> Barry wrote:
> > I've had watches and calculators go years without a battery
> > replacement.  Without exception, when I did replace the battery,
> > just because it seemed like I should, the device never worked
again.
>
> Are you sure you're not jinxed?  :-)
> I've replaced plenty of watch and a few calculator batteries
without
> problems.

So have I.  I'm talking about the situation where I let the watch or
calculator go 3 or more years on the same battery and it just keeps
on working.  Then when I do put in new batteries, the device is
dead.

Barry

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http://www.PocketDos.com is probably the best option even though it
costs $40

I have been using it or a Jornada 540 for a couple of months and it
seems to handle everthing that I throw at it including FoxPro and
LXGPS...even ANSI for colored dos prompts.

In addition to being Dos, it is LX EXM "aware" and will handle programs
written specifically written for the LX with no additional drivers
needed.

It has the ability to "rotate" the Jornada 540 screen to landscape to
better fit the 25x80 format with quick and easy zooming/panning plus,
has a full onscreen keyboard that is easy to use.

The biggest Dos headache is not the program, but WinCE's handling of
long filenames... dos can't see them, even if they have the "shortened"
version such as "MYDOCU~1"

These files/directories are, however, accessable if you know and
reference the shortened name.  If you maintain an 8.3 file/folder name
standard where you can, everything works.

More Jornada/CE details are at;

http://www.BevHoward.com/bhhpj.htm

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard

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Until you find a copy, SETVER should allow you to use the copy you have.

 Beverly Howard

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>>to Al Kind
>>so he can put it on his FTP site. (It really helpful because here in

I downloaded it and you did a fantastic job on the translation

>>Can some real programmers on the list check is it possible to complete the
>>development
>>of this particular piece of a software.

this is a really nice piece of software size speed really good. if you can
get the source and it is msvc++ let me know even if I didn't touch it I
would really love to see it and learn technique from it. On a sad note while
I was locating the download I read the author has passed away so I doubt the
source is available. I tried to read the .dll hoping to expose database
reading writing functions that may be in there but I haven't been able to do
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> I'm sorry for the previous unfinished version. Sometimes it feels like you
> can not continue but you never know what'll happen later :-)

You've done a great job!

> If anyone can help me to recognize what does the following mean I can fix
> it fairly quickly:
>         right click in full Note editor window - as you'll see there are four
> positions
>         left untranslated. I have no idea what are they.

Playing on a test data base.

The 50____ seems to wrap the note to "50" as the right margin which is
set in the menu item just below.  Changed that to "5" and it wrapped the
text at 5 characters when I pressed the 5__ menu item.

Then the "D" item seems to remove hard carriage returns (del carriage
returns??)  It does NOT remove "carriage returns" that were caused by
automatic wrapping at the right margin.  You have to enter ENTER to make
the "D" item work.  And it is related to the next items below.

You need HARD carriage returns you have manually entered and then the B
appears to double space the text in the note (a blank line between
lines.  The H seems to undo that spacing????

This was a bit of trial and error! (g)  and no guarantee! (G)


Another window/message box that is untranslated appears if you press
Cancel after editing the NOTE box.  I guess it asks "cancel: yes/no/cancel"
but only a long underline shows - no text explaining if the box means
"cancel the cancel (G), or save or NO (don't save) or abandon???

Again, thanks

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One more thing:

> If anyone can help me to recognize what does the following mean I can fix
> it fairly quickly:
>         right click in full Note editor window - as you'll see there are four
> positions
>         left untranslated. I have no idea what are they.


I thought that a right click on the full screen note would bring up that
menu, but cannot get the right click to work.  (and I thought that it
did work yesterday! (G))  But if you right click on the small (not full)
"note" field when the entire card is showing, then that menu does
show!!!  Oh, well (G)

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> Barry wrote:
> > I've had watches and calculators go years without a battery
> > replacement.  Without exception, when I did replace the battery,
> > just because it seemed like I should, the device never worked again.


I've replaced many many many batteries over the years....with very good
results.  Were the batteries you replaced bad to begin with?  Could the
replacement batteries be bad because they were so old they started to
leak??????

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Beverly Howard" <Bev@BEVHOWARD.COM>

A couple of additions to this Jorndada page.....

1.  Synching is very fickle.   Stop running MSMoney before synching.  MS
Money will give you the most trouble.

2.  If you have an HP200lx now....you will be extremely disappointed in any
device you get.  After you have used an hp200lx., everything will be a BIG
step down.  HP got it right when they introduced the hp200lx...then they
blew it and released the Jornada xxxx (fill in any model # here).

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I've been fossicking around looking for a DOS project manager that
can import and export to MS Project.  I noticed that Time Line an
ex-Symantec company produced one but now I can't find them
anywhere despite surfing around.  Does anyone know what happened
to them?
TIA
Tony.
PS.  I've managed to find a copy of their v1.0 for DOS and it
works great but I can't get the information out of it so that I
can communicate it easily to others.



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Barry writes:
> I'm not sure.   I'll take a look.  I did send a copy to Harry
> Konstas with source, so if I don't, he might.  He did some testing
> on it and liked the speed and he said he planned to use it.
>
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kopplin@technoir.nu>
> To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
> <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: HV Code
>
>
> >
> > > When the PAL project started I didn't realize who it's leader
> was
> > > and I thought it was Harry Konstas who wrote the package that
> the
> > > idea for PAL was based on.  So I posted a message offering to
> write
> > > a an assembly replacement for the rom graphic functions, to
> speed
> > > things up.  They're fairly slow.
> > >
> > > Harry sent me an email saying ok and I wrote it.  But when I
> > > announced that it was ready, Gillis Kohl said he didn't want
> > > anything written in assembly and they didn't use it.
> >
> > Do you still have this? Maybe you could make it available as a PAL
> addon,
> > like GDBREAD and PALDate.
> >
> > Mike
> >

I have a version of PAL based on version 1.6 in which the low level functions
(those in LOGRAPH and some in HIGRAPH and MISC directories) have been
rewrittten in Assembler. However from reading the copyright notice in PAL,
to distribute this would be a copyright infringement. I once tried to write
to Gilles about this but got no reply. So where can we go from here?


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>
> > compuserve earlier this year and got the impresssion that classic =
compusrve
> > would be history in coming months.  they already were at the point =
where
> > they were not supporting windows 3.1 and absolutely were not supportin=
g dos.
>
> Cis may not support dos, but dos supports cis (G)
>
> Accis, again, a program designed for the HP100/200 does cis forums and
> email and runs on a desktop in a dos windows using palrun.  And tapcis
> is still out there, too for dos (a bit large for the HP but some folks
> use it, I believe)

NAVCIS has become freely available as well - from the NEWSCOM forum
(sorry it is in German) :

#: 10956 S13/Computer & Internet İnewscom¨
=E1   25-Sep-2000 07:37:07
Sb: NavCis jetzt gratis!

da ich die Bewilligung erhalten habe, lud ich die registrierte NavCis
Version (Offline Reader f=FCr Windows f=FCr Compuserve Classic) auf meine
Homepage zum Download hoch. Viel Spass mit NavCis.:-)

http://ourworld.cs.com/andika2000/navcis.htm

German full version part 1 Nav176G1.ZIP (918KB)
German full version part 2 Nav176G2.ZIP (933KB)
German full version part 3 Nav176G3.ZIP (933KB)
Upgrade file from version 1.76 PRO177.ZIP (429KB) English
Beta upgrade to 1.95B1 NAV195B1.EXE (619KB)English/German
Beta upgrade patch 1.95B2 NAV195B2P.EXE (520KB)English/German


HP Staber/Salzburg

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For the Win 95/98 version there is a 3 year old review at:

http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,317735,00.html

And Corel has bundled windows veraions it with WordPerfect Office for several
versions now.

I have some old DOS versions 3, 4, and 5.  If they export/import  to/from MS
Project it would be an old version - might not help you get back and forth
between a current version.

If you can give me more info I'll load them up and have a look.


Mike




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> Subject:       Fluff:  Time Line
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> I've been fossicking around looking for a DOS project manager that
> can import and export to MS Project.  I noticed that Time Line an
> ex-Symantec company produced one but now I can't find them
> anywhere despite surfing around.  Does anyone know what happened
> to them?
> TIA
> Tony.
> PS.  I've managed to find a copy of their v1.0 for DOS and it
> works great but I can't get the information out of it so that I
> can communicate it easily to others.
>
>
>

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Hoi,

25.10.2000, 13:24, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Avi, I've created a Yahoo email account for myself, n6egj@yahoo.com,
> and added a mailbox to wwwlx and can't connect.  I keep getting an
> invalid account id message but scrolls away pretty quick.
> I have gone to the options to select pop access.

I don't have a yahoo account myself, but lots of other (free) pop3 servers
I successfully access with post/lx. Maybe you can post your complete
İyahoo¨ section (or however you called it) of post.cfg to the list. If you
delete your password, no 'secret' information is left, and we can have a
look at it.

One of my preferred errors is a wrong password. Maybe they just need a
nightly program run to activate your mailbox. Note: The pop3 access is not
activated from the beginning, as Avi said, you have to activate it on your
own.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:14:34 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   Oliver has sent me an archive of JPEGs of the 2800mAH AA cells he
   has spoke of. Please find them at the (ever growing) FTP site:

   ftp://137.99.86.127

   Cheers...AJKind

*
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> >It's pretty satisfying to flip open the LX, bring up the project
> >in seconds, update it, point out any conflicts or problems with
> >the new proposals, and put the LX back in the pocket.
> >Meanwhile the others are still starting up their software.
> >Feels good.

Yes, but I would feel much better with an english documentation. The
attached readme file just doesn't explain enough. Some menu entries are not
explained at all.

Does anybody have a doc in english?


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I have been unable to download GDBW_E via anonymous ftp.  Does
the server require other than email address and anonymous?
Thanks.
Jim Sanders

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Bev,

<<It has the ability to "rotate" the Jornada 540 screen to landscape to
better fit the 25x80 format with quick and easy zooming/panning plus,
has a full onscreen keyboard that is easy to use.>>

From my experimentation and talking to the program's author, landscape mode
does NOT support HP LX software. I haven't yet tried PalRun.  This is a
significant limitation running HP stuff, since DOS software is written for
landscape not Pocket PC portrait screens.  For example, I have my Palmtop
phonebook on my Pocket PC and run DBV to view it.  In Portrait mode you must
scroll to see the fields.  In addition the program seems require a refresh
for every line in a page down.

What HP sw are you running on the Pocket PC?

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Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:24:49 -0500 (EST)

A couple people have commented that they have had problems downloading
from my FTP. Let me try to offer some explanation, and perhaps some
help.

- the address is 139.99.86.127

- there are subdirectories for
        2800MAH_AA (battery.zip 165k)
        GDBWinE (Gbw_2.zip 166k)
        LotusNG (lotusng.zip 287k)
        RAS(there is nothing here)

- the server is limited to 5 concurrent users, as it is my desktop
  machine, and I don't want to slow it up too much.

- if you still can't get through after a few tries, I would be happy to
  EMail you the files you need.

- 116 logons have downloaded ~8MB of files, so some of you are getting
  thru ;-)

Cheers...AJKind

01h23m24s ago ...
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Jim Sanders wrote:

> I have been unable to download GDBW_E via anonymous ftp.  Does
> the server require other than email address and anonymous?
> Thanks.
> Jim Sanders
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> Until you find a copy, SETVER should allow you to use the copy you have.
>
>  Beverly Howard

I believe that SETVER was introduced in DOS 5.0.

> Does anyone have a version of MODE.COM that will work with MS-DOS 3.22 on a
> 95LX? The version that came with my old copy of MS-DOS 3.2 gives an
> "Incorrect DOS Version" error. I want to use it to redirect the serial
> input.
>
> Robert A. Feldman

I was going to say your best bet is to patch your copy of MODE.COM
to test for version 3.22.  Load your 3.2 copy of MODE into DEBUG
and use "S" to search for a DOS interrupt "S 100 4000 CD 21".  BUT
I tried this on the DOS 5.0 version in the 200LX, and no joy.  The
code apparently relocates itself, and looks as if it is self modifying.

If the version 3.22 is simpler, try the debug and look for a
"MOV AX,3000" or "MOV AH,30" just before the "INT 21".  The function
that returns the DOS version is hex 30.  But if it is like the DOS 5.0
version, it may very well be version specific.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:36:55 +0200
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Hi friends,

did anyone ever succeed in calling a batch file by click on a file of a
specific type using FILER.INI?

I wanted to handle ZIP files this way. I created a batch file
UNZIP2D.BAT with the content

--
md unzipped
cd unzipped
unzip %1
pause
--

and created an entry in filer.ini

ZIP=c:\batch\unzip2d.bat %

but everytime I click a ZIP file, the LX hangs and needs a ctrl-sh-on.
Sometimes I get a stack overflow.

BUT: If I use BATLITE to compile this batch to a .COM and change the
entry in filer.ini to use the .COM, it works!

FYI: % in FILER.INI contains the whole path of the file, so in the
batch, I can say "unzip %1" and it points to the correct file, although
I changed the dir before.

Any ideas?

GTX
daniel

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>> no LX in landscape <<

I concurr and should have clarified that in my post.  I look forward to
someone else experimenting with this, perhaps using the current drivers
that we use for LX apps on desktop machines.

I have run LXGPS using scrolling and zoom, primarily to confirm that it
was usable, but most of my Dos needs over the years have been pure dos
programs, so the Jornada is performing well in that respect.

Perfect Writer
FoxPro
List
View
Dir /s  <grin>
TxtScn <string finder>
NCD
PKZip/UnZip
UNIT  <layout requires scrolling>

...and looking forward to a case where PCRemote will work.

The primary LX based apps that I used (contacts, scheduler, notes) have
better built in CE apps that are easier for me to use plus they are
significantly faster.

In addition, the ability to record voice notes without opening the unit
plus drawing sketches have been very useful additions.  I find that I
use the voice recorder a lot while driving and walking and then when I
have a moment to sit down, I transcribe the notes into my "00 Current"
note file.

I'm observing that there are third party communication tools appearing
that allow the units to be used as terminals, but for the moment, the
PocketDos environment with dos tools may be a better choice.

 Beverly Howard

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 Please find them at the (ever growing) FTP site:
>
>    ftp://137.99.86.127

Thanks for this GROWING site and for the hplist (which I'm sure, at
times, tries one's _SOUL_!)

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> I have been unable to download GDBW_E via anonymous ftp.  Does
> the server require other than email address and anonymous?

I don't know if it's Netscape but when I put that ftp address in, I get
stalled and nothing happens altho, the Netscape url box shows a much
longer ftp address at that point.

If I add a "/" (no quotes) to the end of the address Al posted as:

FTP://137.99.86.127/

then it shows me the directory structure which leads to the file.

Quirk?

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>> If you have an HP200lx now....you will be extremely disappointed in
any device you get <<

That's pretty much the nature of everything engineering... however, (see
response to Hal's challenge) after 6+ years with a 200LX, my own LX
fanaticism and a rending conversion conversion process from the LX to
the 540, the benefits outweigh the costs.

Know that if PocketDos wasn't there, I would either be back or I would
not have made the leap in the first place... it was actually a posting
here comparing Dos speed on the LX vs 540 that was the final nail.

Just as the transitions from Dos to Win3.1 to Win95 to Win98 brough with
them disappointments, they also presented more options.

 Beverly Howard

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> Hi friends,
>
> did anyone ever succeed in calling a batch file by click on a file of a
> specific type using FILER.INI?

I don't know much about this but have it commented out in my filer.ini
regarding handling of batch files:

;batch file
;xxx=d:\dos\command /c my-bat.bat %
;to launch bat files
;bat=d:\dos\command.com /c %
;where % is the pointed to bat file


So change that xxx to zip????  Good luck

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>> SETVER introduced in 5.0 <<

It's true that the memory is the first to go ;-)

Thanks,
 Beverly Howard

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Your problem might be the batch file invocation from Filer.ini.

Some programs have trouble dealing directly with batch files (which may be why
it works when you convert it to .com).

You might try this:

ZIP=d:\dos\command.com /c c:\batch\unzip2d.bat %

which gives control to command.com instead.

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Hi friends,

did anyone ever succeed in calling a batch file by click on a file of a
specific type using FILER.INI?

I wanted to handle ZIP files this way. I created a batch file
UNZIP2D.BAT with the content

--
md unzipped
cd unzipped
unzip %1
pause
--

and created an entry in filer.ini

ZIP=c:\batch\unzip2d.bat %

but everytime I click a ZIP file, the LX hangs and needs a ctrl-sh-on.
Sometimes I get a stack overflow.

BUT: If I use BATLITE to compile this batch to a .COM and change the
entry in filer.ini to use the .COM, it works!

FYI: % in FILER.INI contains the whole path of the file, so in the
batch, I can say "unzip %1" and it points to the correct file, although
I changed the dir before.

Any ideas?

GTX
daniel

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> Until you find a copy, SETVER should allow
> you to use the copy you have.

I think setver began with dos 5.  Maybe it was 4 but I never used 4.
My guess is it would get a dos version error on the 95lx.  :)

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Beverly Howard wrote:

> I have been using it or a Jornada 540 for a couple of months and it
> seems to handle everthing that I throw at it including FoxPro and
> LXGPS...even ANSI for colored dos prompts.

Beverly,

Can the Jornada display full CGA graphics (640x200) when running a DOS
application under PocketDOS ?

Also can you comment on the form factor of the Jornada series.

Tx,

 \/
 /ves

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I have uploaded the following files to SUPER
(http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html)

GDBWin (original Japanese) (173 KB)
Version 0.90 by Toru Miyamori

GDBWin (translated to English) (173 KB)
Version 0.90 (2) by Toru Miyamori, translated by Serge
Kozhemiakin


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Thanks. Worked like a charm.

John Cobb

"F. Kaufman" wrote:

> If I add a "/" (no quotes) to the end of the address Al posted as:
>
> FTP://137.99.86.127/
>
> then it shows me the directory structure which leads to the file.

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Subject:      GDBwin_2 : Alternative site
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You can now download the GDBwin .ZIP file from www.PalmtopPaper.com  Just
click on the "What's New" icon and then click on the line that reads
"Download..."

I tried this and the GDBwin_2.ZIP file was transferred via http: protocol.
165Kb file size. Note: I tried this only with my Netscape and MSIE browsers.

Enjoy.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:51:14 -0700
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Bruce Martin wrote:
>
> The following utility by Brahma will convert a .pcx to a .icn :
> http://www.ufo.co.jp/~brahma/lib/pcx_icn.lzh
>
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Hello!

Thanks, I got it.

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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> Especially to the author:
> Is it (possible or) planned to load a pcx-file and save it as a
> bmp- or icn-file?

no plans for that. LXPIC can only convert to b&w PCX, which is
the most effective format for the palmtop converning filesize
and speed.

BMP is huge, because it is uncompressed and ICN is nonstandard.
I guess you want to use LXPIC for icon conversions. Use one of
the utilities from SUPER.

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Stefan Lombaard wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, this is very usefull.
> >
> > GDBWinE can be found by anon FTP to:
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Hello!

I can't imagine (after following the thread), what it is. First
I thought, that it's some conversion prog from g(eneral)d(ata)b(ase);
now I'm in doubt. Is a sort of debugger for delphi or so?

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Hello!
Does anybody of you know where to get a serial cable for the hp lx 95?

thanks in advance,
Christoph
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Hello!

Has anybody thought about or tried to use the c(olor) from the
CGA-chip with another panel? Then we would never need
Jordanas or so -).

                Klaus.
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Date:         Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:18:21 +0200
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Hi Stephan,
      the document called Japanese.doc shipped with the package is
actually an English document containing an interesting description of
the application.

I hope this helps.

Bye

Luca Campeis


In article <F2503JdZZzxTS2UOdRM00000ae6@hotmail.com>, Stephan Goeldi
<stephan_goeldi@HOTMAIL.COM> writes
>> >It's pretty satisfying to flip open the LX, bring up the project
>> >in seconds, update it, point out any conflicts or problems with
>> >the new proposals, and put the LX back in the pocket.
>> >Meanwhile the others are still starting up their software.
>> >Feels good.
>
>Yes, but I would feel much better with an english documentation. The
>attached readme file just doesn't explain enough. Some menu entries are not
>explained at all.
>
>Does anybody have a doc in english?
>
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>> GCA Graphics? <<

Not sure... for example, LXPIC works, but displays in BW.  If there is a
common program that you would like me to try, let me know.

To turn the answer back into a question, what program do you want to
run.  To clarify, since the CE os is graphics based, there may be CE
apps that meet your graphic needs better.

>> Form Factor <<

Basically the same as the Palm series... perhaps 5-10% larger, but
essentially the same.  For a good overview, check out;

 http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/540/tour/index.html

...especially the next to the last button

 Beverly Howard

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>> conversions <<

Does it have to be a Dos program?

If not, take a look at IRFANVIEW at http://www.irfanview.com

Amazing little program, even if it does require windoze.  Handles 99.9%
of my graphics needs including conversions to and from every format that
I come in contact with including GIFs and the KDC format of my Kodak
DC120 camera... batch processing as well, including processing during
batch conversions such as rotations, resize, color depth, etc, etc.

 Beverly Howard

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christoph Fuchs" <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE>
> Does anybody of you know where to get a serial cable for the hp lx 95?

http://www.thaddeus.com

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Date:         Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:58:29 -0600
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If you can use a soldering iron, you can easily make a serial cable. What
you need is a CR-ROM sound cable that has a 4-pin female plug with 2mm
spacing. Cut off the other end of the cable and solder the wires to a male
DB9 plug as follows (the layout is looking at the serial port of your 95LX):

HP          Shield     Transmit     Receive     Signal
            Ground       Data         Data      Ground
               |           |            |          |

CD plug        U           U            U          U
               |           |            |          |
               |           |            |          |
               |           |            |          |
DB9         housing      Pin 3        Pin 2      Pin 5

Robert Feldman
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Hello!
Does anybody of you know where to get a serial cable for the hp lx 95?

thanks in advance,
Christoph
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Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:25:49 -0500 (EST)

GDBWin is a Windows application for manipulating the HPLX database
formated files (gdb,pdb). The original was written with Japanese menus,
GDBWinE was reconfigured by Serge Kozhemiakin to incorporate English
menus.

Cheers...AJKind

02h26m35s ago ...
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> Stefan Lombaard wrote:
> >
> > Thanks guys, this is very usefull.
> > >
> > > GDBWinE can be found by anon FTP to:
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> Hello!
>
> I can't imagine (after following the thread), what it is. First
> I thought, that it's some conversion prog from g(eneral)d(ata)b(ase);
> now I'm in doubt. Is a sort of debugger for delphi or so?
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:49:30 -0400
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As far as I remember, C was chosen because the PAL group wanted
to support a wide range of different compilers, and this would
have been way too complex if not impossible if inline assembler
would have been used. Therefore the "plain C code" rule has been
created.

Tom
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:04:58 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.N=
ET> wrote:

 > > I'm not sure.   I'll take a look.  I did send a copy to Harry
 > > Konstas with source, so if I don't, he might.  He did some testing
 > > on it and liked the speed and he said he planned to use it.
 >
 > Many (most, all??) of Harry's original HP programs were written in
 > assembler.  And I now forget the name of his first effort to provide a
 > common library or functions that would ultimately become the PAL =
stuff.
 > I guess C was considered a better universal choice.

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Just use your web browser, works fine for this site.  I couldn't get it
with WS_FTP... but IE 5.5 had no problems.  Netscape should work too.

BTW... this is an excellent app!



> I have been unable to download GDBW_E via anonymous ftp.  Does
> the server require other than email address and anonymous?
> Thanks.
> Jim Sanders
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Al Kind wrote:
>
> Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:25:49 -0500 (EST)
>
> GDBWin is a Windows application for manipulating the HPLX database
> formated files (gdb,pdb). The original was written with Japanese menus,
> GDBWinE was reconfigured by Serge Kozhemiakin to incorporate English
> menus.
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Hello!

After download from Super: Now I can understand the enthusiasm!
BTW after the first announcement I head the mentioned download-
problems, too.

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Great program. Thanks to everybody who did the work to make it
available.

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Hello!

Has somebody a nice win-icon for gdbwin?

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My POP access to my Yahoo account is working now.  I guess I tried it
too soon after creating it.

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:48:29 -0700, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Just a note to announce that I have officially pulled Goin' Postal from
> the market.

Sorry to hear that.

>  The market has dwindled to the point that a manual reorder
> isn't worthwhile.

I guess it was just a matter of time before this happend.

>  Since my LX has sat with a dead battery the whole year,

_Very_ sorry to hear that. What have you moved on too?

> and I have all but stopped reading the digests from this forum, it's time
> to say goodbye.

I guess it is. I hope you will come back to us sometime soon. I have
sent this message to your privat email also so that you get to read it.

> Avi, I wish you and Andreas good luck!  You have a fine product and I hope
> you are able to continue being profitable in supporting the LX.

I hope so also. I must say that I use Www/Lx 3.0 and are very happy.
But I tried out your Goin Postal, but because I am very active in
newsgroups I registered Www/lx instead.

> I may release Goin' Postal under GPL sometime in the future, but currently
> don't have time to prepare it.
>
> Good luck to everyone!

Thank you for your contribution to the Hplx community. I have enjoyed
your input here on the list. Good luck in whatever "pda community" you
have joined.

Hope to see you around

Regards

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Hi Beverly and All,

>http://www.PocketDos.com is probably the best option even though it
>costs $40
>
>I have been using it or a Jornada 540 for a couple of months and it
>seems to handle everthing that I throw at it including FoxPro and
>LXGPS...even ANSI for colored dos prompts.

Just a quick word of warning.  A while back, I asked someone who had
PocketDos to try running one of my favorite XT compatible DOS PIM
programs.  I was disappointed to learn that PocketDos couldn't run it, at
all. :-(

Cheers!

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Hi F. Kaufman,

>> compuserve earlier this year and got the impresssion that classic
compusrve
>> would be history in coming months.  they already were at the point
where
>> they were not supporting windows 3.1 and absolutely were not
supporting dos.
>
>
>Cis may not support dos, but dos supports cis (G)
>
>Accis, again, a program designed for the HP100/200 does cis forums and
>email and runs on a desktop in a dos windows using palrun.  And tapcis
>is still out there, too for dos (a bit large for the HP but some folks
>use it, I believe)

You are right about the above and I'm glad to hear that Compuserve still
does offer current Compuserve Classic subscribers access to the remaining
Compuserve Classic servers.  They've been really determined for a long
time about shutting them down as soon as possible.

The original post was actually about getting a HP200LX connection to
Compuserve Classic with his HP200LX.  As you may remember, I attempted to
get a Compuserve Classic account quite a while ago when a copy of ACCIS
was offered for sale on this list.  To my dismay, I ultimately discovered
at that time that Compuserve was refusing to offer new Compuserve Classic
accounts.

To those who still have Compuserve Classic accounts:  Count your lucky
stars that you still have access.  Please do all you can to fight the
closure of those servers.

The rest of us can only hope that current subscribers are stubborn enough
and voice their objections loud enough to eventually convince Compuserve
to not only keep those servers up, but to also reconsider offering new
Compuserve Classic subscriptions again.

If Compuserve ever decides to start offering new Compuserve Classic
subscriptions again, PLEASE let me know ASAP!  I would waste no time at
all getting an account and looking for a copy of ACCIS again.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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> Hello!
> Does anybody of you know where to get a serial cable for the hp lx 95?=


yeah, I have one I might be able to part with if you need it.  Let me=20=

know.

--=20
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Not exactly related to the original question, but about LXPIC:

Since this program can turn pictures upside down, how difficult
would it be to get it to turn pictures sideways?  Sorry If this feature
is already implemented, I did not see it.   On the HP200LX, it would
be much more useful than the H command (fit to the HP screen).


TIA

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  Avi M. İD&A¨  http://www.dasoft.com wrote
 "If you are happy with the prospect of love letters to your
wife to be shared with some hacker from some other country, or
maybe a nice confidential email from someone else being shared
by whoever - maybe even sold by the hacker to your competition
- then you have the solution in cybercafes. But I think you
just had no idea this is so.
I'll let other people comment on the cybercafes safety and on
my opinion on them."

either you install PGP or observe a taboo on details İaddresses, phone
numbers etc.¨ which could give away the sender -- all other writing cannot
be attributed to the writer without signature/voice/video proof. Other than
that, encrypted attachments seem safest.

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>> Barry wrote:
>> > I've had watches and calculators go years without a battery
> >> replacement.  Without exception, when I did replace the battery,
> >> just because it seemed like I should, the device never worked again.

>I've replaced many many many batteries over the years....with very good
>results.  Were the batteries you replaced bad to begin with?  Could the
>replacement batteries be bad because they were so old they started to
>leak??????

could it be that the "device never worked again" because the devices'
electronics couldn't handle low voltage? (an all or nothing sort of a guy)
:)

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> I have a version of PAL based on version 1.6
>  in which the low level functions (those in
> LOGRAPH and some in HIGRAPH and MISC
> directories) have been rewrittten in Assembler.
> However from reading the copyright notice in PAL,
> to distribute this would be a copyright infringement.
> I once tried to write to Gilles about this but got no
> reply. So where can we go from here?

I'd try writing him again.  He's not the kind who would ignore a
serious request.  There might have been some email foul-up.

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> As far as I remember, C was chosen because
> the PAL group wanted to support a wide range
> of different compilers, and this would have been
> way too complex if not impossible if inline assembler
> would have been used. Therefore the "plain C code"
> rule has been created.

That's only a problem with inline assembly.  An object module
written in asm is no different than an object module written in C as
far as the compiler/linker is concerned.

The only issue would be with PowerC which uses .mix files with a
different format for object files but that same issue exists in C
and is no problem.  I believe PowerC provides a conversion utility.
The make file for PAL in PowerC would just run the conversion
utility on any .obj files.  I'd be surprised (although I haven't
looked) if it's not already doing that on something.

I can't see any reason why the programmers would even have to know,
except that it's nice to tell people what's going on.  The only
difference they might see is size and speed.  It shouldn't have any
effect on how the write or compile the program.

I'm not trying to make this happen.  I don't use PAL.  A very good
reason for not using asm to optimize it is because it's a lot of
work and maybe it isn't worth doing.  It works fine as it is for
most things.  But there are no technical reasons that I can see.

Barry

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You can use the HP 100LX/200LX serial cable with the end plug that converts
to the 4-pin 95LX serial port.  This is a simple adapter that plugs onto the
end of the 10-pin cable.  I have one of these plugs somewhere around the
house that I no longer need.

Alan

>From: Christoph Fuchs İmailto:christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE¨
>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:08 PM
>...
>Does anybody of you know where to get a serial cable for the hp lx 95?

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Barry writes:
> > I once tried to write to Gilles about this but got no
> > reply. So where can we go from here?
>
> I'd try writing him again.  He's not the kind who would ignore a
> serious request.  There might have been some email foul-up.

I just received a note from Gilles in which he suggests that I distribute an
incremental modification with my sources. I will tidy them up a bit and then
think about where to put them. Is the SUPER site still accepting admissions?
The last "new" file there is from March!


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Thanks a lot to all of you.

so long,
Christoph
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 www.docdos.de
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Beverly Howard wrote:

> >> GCA Graphics? <<
>
> Not sure... for example, LXPIC works, but displays in BW.

LXPIC "asks" the BIOS for the supported graphics modes and
selects the best by default. Later on you may walk through
the other available graphics modes with F2 and F3.

The Jornada's DOS BIOS or whatever program emulates it seems
to answer with CGA as best available graphics mode, and LXPIC
displays only b&w under CGA.

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Domingo Diaz-V wrote:

> Not exactly related to the original question, but about LXPIC:
>
> Since this program can turn pictures upside down, how difficult
> would it be to get it to turn pictures sideways?

nothing is impossible, but 90 degree rotation is almost
impossible with my design of decoding images.

Bad design, you may think? Well, it's the price for running
code and data in only 64KB.

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I've mentioned this to Stefan a long time ago, and I believe the answer was that
the algorithm used to read the image and form the display are optimized now for
size and speed.  Rotating an image would probably either require a large buffer
to construct the image (impacting size) or successive reads on the image file
(impacting speed).

OTOH, turning an image upside down is probably not much different than what
LXPIC already did, except to paint the screen from the bottom up.

- Longden



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Not exactly related to the original question, but about LXPIC:

Since this program can turn pictures upside down, how difficult
would it be to get it to turn pictures sideways?  Sorry If this feature
is already implemented, I did not see it.   On the HP200LX, it would
be much more useful than the H command (fit to the HP screen).

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Date:         Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:34:46 -0700
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John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> To those who still have Compuserve Classic accounts:  Count your lucky
> stars that you still have access.  Please do all you can to fight the
> closure of those servers.

Here's another thing to do with an interactive login to Compuserve
Classic.  Warning: this can be a time-waster.

Once you get the "!" prompt, type "exit" and press return.

You will get an "OK" prompt.  Type "r advent" and press return.

Welcome to the classic Crowther and Woods 350-point adventure, running
on a PDP-10, or more likely a Systems Concepts clone of the DEC
PDP-10.  Enjoy it while you can, and remember that if you don't have
36 bits, you're not playing with a full DEC.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "Recipients of HPLX-L digests" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 00:00
> Date:    Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:41:02 -0400
> From:    John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Have Jordanas a DOS-Shell?
>
> Hi Beverly and All,
>
> >http://www.PocketDos.com is probably the best option even though it
> >costs $40
> >
> >I have been using it or a Jornada 540 for a couple of months and it
> >seems to handle everthing that I throw at it including FoxPro and
> >LXGPS...even ANSI for colored dos prompts.
>
> Just a quick word of warning.  A while back, I asked someone who had
> PocketDos to try running one of my favorite XT compatible DOS PIM
> programs.  I was disappointed to learn that PocketDos couldn't run it,
at
> all. :-(
>

So, you going to tell us what PIM it is? a) maybe there've been some
changes in the program, and b) if there haven't, it may save some fellow
user a few bucks/lira/francs/. . .

Jon

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> Date:    Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:08:09 +0200
> From:    Christoph Fuchs <christoph.fuchs@SURFWAY.DE>
> Subject: Serial cable for HP LX 95
>
> Hello!
> Does anybody of you know where to get a serial cable for the hp lx 95?
>
> thanks in advance,
> Christoph
> --

It's the same as the HP-48 uses, IIRC. For that matter, the HP-200
Connectivity Kit and serial cable has an adapter for the 48/95 on it.

Jon

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Date:         Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:52:32 -0400
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>>If Compuserve ever decides to start offering new Compuserve Classic
>>subscriptions again, PLEASE let me know ASAP!  I would waste no time at
>>all getting an account and looking for a copy of ACCIS again.

check out cis web page I could have sworn I saw a button somewhere to get a
classic account although they were calling it something else.

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Indeed. If you look at the CIS web page - CompuServe 2000 requires Windows
95. They still have available Version 2.61 of their software for Windows
3.1. I am fairly certain that is what we are refering to as "CompuServe
Classic". (CompuServe defines "Classic" as any version 4.0 or sooner). This
software is also on the CIS CD - though you need to "look" for it. :¬)

Regards,

Larry Feldman

Larry Tachna wrote:
>
> check out cis web page I could have sworn I saw a button > somewhere to
get a classic account although they were calling it > something else.
>


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Oops ... forgot the URL:

CompuServe software (including older versions) is available from:

http://www.compuserve.com/trycsrv/cs2000/download1.asp

I also see from another page that Versions above 4.0 "require a different
network", hence the different access numbers for CompuServe 2000.

Larry


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Barrett" <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
> > Just a quick word of warning.  A while back, I asked someone who had
> > PocketDos to try running one of my favorite XT compatible DOS PIM
> > programs.  I was disappointed to learn that PocketDos couldn't run it,

Was this pim the HP200lx appointment/calendar program?

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----- Original Message -----
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> >>If Compuserve ever decides to start offering new Compuserve Classic
> >>subscriptions again, PLEASE let me know ASAP!

When I had compuserve I got the impression they were about to kill off
classic.  Look for them to offer new subscriptions the day George W. Bush
endorses Al Gore.

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I have 2 WordPerfect 5.1 manuals available for anyone that wants
to pay shipping.  These are the gray-boxed three ring binders and
are a bit heavy.  The boxes have a bit of mildew at the bottoms.
E-mail me off list if interested.

Ted

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Hi friends,

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:57:21 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> You might try this:
>
> ZIP=d:\dos\command.com /c c:\batch\unzip2d.bat %

That was it! Thanks a lot! :-)

Another question: Is it possible to cut off a number of characters from
an argument given to a batch file?
I'd like to let the batch crate a directory with the same name as the
ZIP file, but without the file extension. So FILER.INI would call e.g.

c:\batch\unzip2d a:\zips\example.zip

and unzip2d shall make (besides other things):

md %1 (but without ".zip").

Is this possible in some way?

TNX again
daniel

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Hello, sorry for taking the bandwidth with this.

Got a fax ordering stuff from D&A which I cannot read. The top is obliterated,
so I am not sure about the name - but the signature shows possibly this name:
"John L Le Guillon". I cannot see the email address on the form.

If you read this, John, or you know this person, please contact D&A
info@dasoft.com.

Thanks... and again my apologies for taking the bandwidth.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Hi all
Does anyone know of a util or how
to dspy fonts on the screen sideways
in either direction?

TIA
yor pal al..................



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Thanks, .ed.İPTP¨

and i signed up for my "free" copy of the PTP too :)

tried GDBwin-2 (Engl) and found the datacard reduced to an icon in the right
hand corner; when i enlarged it it would not reduce any more back to its
original, unless i "floated" it. All datacards show some unreadable letters,
like the "H" in "Home" has half of its letter missing, and there are spaces
between letters. "View" + "zoom control" don't seem to work (yet) ?

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Beverly Howard wrote:
> To turn the answer back into a question, what program do you want to
> run.

The 2 CGA applications that I use regularly are PcGlobe (World Atlas with
demographic data) and AutoRoute Express (Road Map programme).

Do they run on the Jornada or is there a comparable substitute designed =
for
that platform ?

Rgds,

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> and i signed up for my "free" copy of the PTP too :)

Signed up for it too...haven't received anything yet.  Have there been any?

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In response to my message yesterday regarding WP5.1 manuals, I
got a question regarding how well WP5.1 works on the palmtop.
After I replied to the request, it occurred to me that others
on the list might be interested, so I'm sending it along.  (The
manuals are still available, by the way.)


Here is my experience regarding WP5.1 performance on my 200LX.  I
should mention that my 200LX has both the 32M internal RAM and the
double speed upgrades.

I've put a pretty minimal installation on board, it takes up just
under 1MB in the principal directory.  (This uses the wpsmall.drs
file instead of wp.drs.)  I also have an additional 800kB in a util
directory, consisting of printer drivers, keyboard definitions, and
mostly the dictionary and thesaurus.

Since I use my 200LX in SysMan most of the time, my setup runs under
MaxDos called from a macro.  It takes about 3 seconds to load.  The
syntax in the AppMgr is: "c:\utils\maxdos.com c:\prgms\wp51\wp.exe"
where "utils" and "prgms\wp51" are the paths to each program.

Now for what you really wanted to know: it runs pretty well on my
unit.  The speed is tolerable for the most part.  It is slow to load
large documents, but gets there.  Working within documents is fine.
The display is okay for text editing.  The pull down menus can be
a bit hard to read, but adjusting the contrast makes it okay.  The
preview mode is not very good--in normal size type, text is only
readable in 200% mode.  The full page mode looks like landscape
because of the way the 200LX display functions, but is still
somewhat useful for getting a general sense of the page layout.

Do I use it?  Not much.  I've become spoiled by readable full page
document views with word processing on my 17" desktop monitor, and
find the limited view of the document in WP5.1 to be a real bother.
For most of the writing I do on my 200LX I use Memo, and then move
it to my desktop to format there.  (I actually do 95% of my e-mail
totally on my 200LX).  The main function I use it for is the spell
check and the thesarus.  Since it's so quick to load, it's easy to
look up a word when I need to.  It's also nice to be able to take
along and be able to pull up work documents when I travel, though
this is mostly for reference rather than for editing.

One final thought: if I had a single speed 200LX, I don't think I
would bother (maybe I should have said this up front!).

Anyway, hope these ramblngs are helpful.

Ted

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Have a look at fsplit from Simtel.

Paulo


Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Another question: Is it possible to cut off a number of characters from
> an argument given to a batch file?
> I'd like to let the batch crate a directory with the same name as the
> ZIP file, but without the file extension. So FILER.INI would call e.g.

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>>tried GDBwin-2 (Engl) and found the datacard reduced to an icon

it aint perfect but its really impressive, what I wonder is if people want
an app for windows that duplicates the built in hp apps or just a conversion
application to convert data from hp to win? and back

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Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
> Not exactly related to the original question, but about LXPIC:
>
> Since this program can turn pictures upside down, how difficult
> would it be to get it to turn pictures sideways?

My recent attempt to decode GIF's is still fresh in my
mind, so.  If a _MINIMAL_ GIF only display would help
I could send you one.

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Do you mean the PTP email newsletter?  We have stopped print pub of PTP.

Thanks,

Hal

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
> and i signed up for my "free" copy of the PTP too :)

Signed up for it too...haven't received anything yet.  Have there been any?

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Frank McConnell wrote:

> Welcome to the classic Crowther and Woods 350-point adventure, running
> on a PDP-10, or more likely a Systems Concepts clone of the DEC
> PDP-10.  Enjoy it while you can, and remember that if you don't have
> 36 bits, you're not playing with a full DEC.

Ooch.  But thanks for the reminder of the "old days".  Had to ask for
help to finish that game unfortunately.

But I thought the 36 bit Digitals were the DEC-10 and DEC-20 systems.
And that the PDP's were 12 and 16 bit.

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> Do you mean the PTP email newsletter?

Yes.

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Hi all
I asked a question yesterday:
Does anyone know (a util) of how to dspy
fonts sideways.

What I meant was: How to append, write ASCII
to the screen sideways.

Sorry for the confusion.
yor pal al................


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> Rotating an image would probably either require
> a large buffer to construct the image (impacting
> size) or successive reads on the image file
> (impacting speed).

You can use a buffer allocated dynamically by dos and not affect the
size of your program.  In C you would can farmalloc() and in asm you
can use int 21h function 48h.

Either returns a far pointer to a block the size you specify.  The
size of the program isn't affected except by the few bytes needed
for the call.

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I seem to remember:
    36bit    X0, PDP6,10 and DEC20
    18bit    PDP1,7,9,15
    16bit    PDP11,VAX
    12bit    PDP8,12

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> Frank McConnell wrote:
>
> > Welcome to the classic Crowther and Woods 350-point adventure, running
> > on a PDP-10, or more likely a Systems Concepts clone of the DEC
> > PDP-10.  Enjoy it while you can, and remember that if you don't have
> > 36 bits, you're not playing with a full DEC.
>
> Ooch.  But thanks for the reminder of the "old days".  Had to ask for
> help to finish that game unfortunately.
>
> But I thought the 36 bit Digitals were the DEC-10 and DEC-20 systems.
> And that the PDP's were 12 and 16 bit.
>
> Steve
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At 11:46 AM 10/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I seem to remember:
>    36bit    X0, PDP6,10 and DEC20
>    18bit    PDP1,7,9,15
>    16bit    PDP11,VAX
>    12bit    PDP8,12
>

John,

   You banged off of more than I have, obviously.
But I do belive there was a DEC-10.  Unless it was
the name of the operating system on the DEC-20 that
was 10 and 20.  And I thought the VAX was 32 bit
with PDP-11 emulation for 16 bits. (?)

   Anyway, I had minimal contact with the older
DEC equipment except for a PDP-8 and a DEC-20.

Thanks for the corrections.

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Hi Jon and Ken,

>Was this pim the HP200lx appointment/calendar program?

No.

>So, you going to tell us what PIM it is? a) maybe there've been some
>changes in the program, and b) if there haven't, it may save some fellow
>user a few bucks/lira/francs/. . .

The PIM program I'm referring to is one that others here have looked at
in the past and called "ugly", but I've used it for about 3 years now on
my desktop machine to organize and automatically journal almost all of my
activities.  It's worked wonders for me and it's Journal (a freeform
database), search and report format features offer instant real time
access to anything or any list of things I've ever journaled, in an
organized format that I choose.

It's basic functions will run on an XT desktop, but it's advanced
features (such as it's optional Blowfish encryption) require a 386.  It
will run on my HP200LX, but it unfortunately it runs too slowly on it to
be of much practical use on my palmtop.

BTW, the above description is biased since I did help in the development
of that software.

If you would like to take a look at it for yourself, check out:

www.xs4all.nl/~pcbel/cal.html

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hi Larry,

>Indeed. If you look at the CIS web page - CompuServe 2000 requires
Windows
>95. They still have available Version 2.61 of their software for Windows
>3.1. I am fairly certain that is what we are refering to as "CompuServe
>Classic". (CompuServe defines "Classic" as any version 4.0 or sooner).
This
>software is also on the CIS CD - though you need to "look" for it. :¬)
.
.
.
>Oops ... forgot the URL:
>
>CompuServe software (including older versions) is available from:
>
>http://www.compuserve.com/trycsrv/cs2000/download1.asp
>
>I also see from another page that Versions above 4.0 "require a
different
>network", hence the different access numbers for CompuServe 2000.

I looked at Compuserve's website again, and still found no offer for the
Compuserve Classic software, so thanks for the info on where to find the
various versions of the Compuserve Classic software.  If Rondel in
Germany can somehow manage to get a currently active (but currently
unused) Compuserve Classic subscription transferred to me, that software
could be very useful for my desktop or laptop computer.

Current Compuserve Classic subscribers may find that information useful,
but (to answer the original question from the original post) it would be
generally of no use to those who don't already have a Compuserve Classic
subscription.

For quite some time now, Compuserve has refused to offer new member
access to the remaining Compuserve Classic server(s).  Due to that
policy, they have also refused to accept new subscriptions to Compuserve
Classic.

Cheers!

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Doesn't Vertical Reader display fonts sideways?



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Hi all
I asked a question yesterday:
Does anyone know (a util) of how to dspy
fonts sideways.

What I meant was: How to append, write ASCII
to the screen sideways.

Sorry for the confusion.
yor pal al................

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Hi John.

Weird. I just talked to CompuServe customer service, (800-848-8990), and
asked about access for Windows 3.1. I was told that I could not sign up for
CompuServe 2000. Instead I would need to join CompuServe Classic. I told her
that I heard this was not possible, and she was quite surprised i.e. joining
Classic was still allowed, indeed needed for less than 95.

Regards,

Larry Feldman


> For quite some time now, Compuserve has refused to offer new
> member access to the remaining Compuserve Classic server(s).
> Due to that policy, they have also refused to accept new
> subscriptions to Compuserve
> Classic.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>


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>>> ...they have also refused to accept new subscriptions to Compuserve
Classic. <<

Since I am about to abandon our 2 classic accounts, I wonder if I could
sell them ;-)

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Larry Tachna wrote:
>>,,,I wonder ...if people want an app for windows that duplicates the built
in hp apps or just a conversion application to convert data from hp to win?
and back<<

Yes<g>

GDBwin (and now GDBwinE) is my second most frequently used app on my Win
machine. It's too bad that development of the program was ended
precipitously. (Serge K. did a marvelous job with the resource editor.)

I would have liked to see GDBwn handle .ADB files and perhaps .WDB files. It
sure makes data entry and editing a snap. And there's no need for conversion
since the same data files will work on both the desktop and Ptop. There are
a few dialog boxes where something is apparently supposed to happen but the
code for doing so is missing. I don't know why the fonts in the data card
view are so 'mushy'. I've not seen that happen in other Win programs.

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Your correct about the VAX.
The "DEC10" was a renamed "KI PDP10", the "DEC20" was a
renamed "KL PDP10" as I remember it (also subject to correction).

John A. Wittkamper :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Old Computers


> At 11:46 AM 10/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >I seem to remember:
> >    36bit    X0, PDP6,10 and DEC20
> >    18bit    PDP1,7,9,15
> >    16bit    PDP11,VAX
> >    12bit    PDP8,12
> >
>
> John,
>
>    You banged off of more than I have, obviously.
> But I do belive there was a DEC-10.  Unless it was
> the name of the operating system on the DEC-20 that
> was 10 and 20.  And I thought the VAX was 32 bit
> with PDP-11 emulation for 16 bits. (?)
>
>    Anyway, I had minimal contact with the older
> DEC equipment except for a PDP-8 and a DEC-20.
>
> Thanks for the corrections.
>
> Steve
>
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Subject:      Re: OT: Old Computers
Comments: To: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.16.20001027105414.1a3fdc36@204.49.39.2>

There was definately a DEC-10, that is what I learned on at university. The OS they used on it was TOPS-10 if I remember
correctly. We also had a PDP-11 running unix that served as an alternate heat source for the computer lab in the winter, we
just had to open the case side. :-)

Pete

On 27 Oct 2000, at 11:54, Steve Novosad wrote:

> At 11:46 AM 10/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >I seem to remember:
> >    36bit    X0, PDP6,10 and DEC20
> >    18bit    PDP1,7,9,15
> >    16bit    PDP11,VAX
> >    12bit    PDP8,12
> >
>
> John,
>
>    You banged off of more than I have, obviously.
> But I do belive there was a DEC-10.  Unless it was
> the name of the operating system on the DEC-20 that
> was 10 and 20.  And I thought the VAX was 32 bit
> with PDP-11 emulation for 16 bits. (?)
>
>    Anyway, I had minimal contact with the older
> DEC equipment except for a PDP-8 and a DEC-20.
>
> Thanks for the corrections.
>
> Steve
>
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Hi
Longden Loo

 What I want to do is to append,
 write ASCII to the screen sideways.
 Not to just reed it.....

yor pal al........................

 <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:
> Doesn't Vertical Reader display fonts sideways?

> I asked a question yesterday:
> Does anyone know (a util) of how to dspy
> fonts sideways.
>
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
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I thought the DEC-10 and DEC-20 were the mainframe line and the PDP computers were Mini's? I know physically the DEC-
10 and its peripherals were much larger than the PDP-11 we had. Kind of refridgerator versis bookcase sized, respectivly.

Pete

On 27 Oct 2000, at 16:50, John Wittkamper wrote:

> Your correct about the VAX.
> The "DEC10" was a renamed "KI PDP10", the "DEC20" was a
> renamed "KL PDP10" as I remember it (also subject to correction).
>
> John A. Wittkamper :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: Old Computers
>
>
> > At 11:46 AM 10/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I seem to remember:
> > >    36bit    X0, PDP6,10 and DEC20
> > >    18bit    PDP1,7,9,15
> > >    16bit    PDP11,VAX
> > >    12bit    PDP8,12
> > >
> >
> > John,
> >
> >    You banged off of more than I have, obviously.
> > But I do belive there was a DEC-10.  Unless it was
> > the name of the operating system on the DEC-20 that
> > was 10 and 20.  And I thought the VAX was 32 bit
> > with PDP-11 emulation for 16 bits. (?)
> >
> >    Anyway, I had minimal contact with the older
> > DEC equipment except for a PDP-8 and a DEC-20.
> >
> > Thanks for the corrections.
> >
> > Steve
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Feldman" <lfeldman@USA.COM>
> Weird. I just talked to CompuServe customer service, (800-848-8990), and
> asked about access for Windows 3.1. I was told that I could not sign up
for
> CompuServe 2000.

Just checked the compuserve web site....the option they give you now is
2000.

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The Compuserve Business Accounts are only Classic -- Compuserve 2000 is not
yot available for these accounts.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "hobchi" <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
>  What I want to do is to append,
>  write ASCII to the screen sideways.

Why would you want to...how are you going to read it
sideways?????????????????????  I could understand printing that way(sideways
did it for 123), but on the screen??????????????    Wouldn't it be easier to
just print it using sideways????????

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
> I thought the DEC-10 and DEC-20 were the mainframe line and the PDP
computers were Mini's? I know physically the DEC-
> 10 and its peripherals were much larger than the PDP-11 we had. Kind of
refridgerator versis bookcase sized, respectivly.


Used all of these at college...there were so many people on them that at
times they  were as slow as frozen molasses.  I would have given my eyeteeth
to have had an HP200lx which was much faster.

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>>I would have liked to see GDBwn handle .ADB files and perhaps
>>.WDB files. It

its in there at least some functions in the .dll are must have not got done

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Hal sent one of the 1.5 meg sram cards, and I immediately set about
finding the limits.  It came with a low battery warning, but after a few
hours of being plugged into the wall, that warning stays away.

I wrote info to it, and formatted the card, and did everything I could
think of to make it fail, and the card didn't.  However...

I crashed my LX and to make it work I finally had to go in and have it
boot from the d drive, which of course wiped out everything and then
some.  Now World Time is blank.  HP Calc comes up without the Application
screen.  Hearts and Bones is gone.  I have back ups of my phone book, and
some of my appointment book (although it wasn't current).  But what
happened to the other stuff????

I own CPack, but before I did anything I thought I would get advice from
the LX community.

TIA
Bill
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Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:
> Ooch.  But thanks for the reminder of the "old days".  Had to ask for
> help to finish that game unfortunately.

Me too.

> But I thought the 36 bit Digitals were the DEC-10 and DEC-20 systems.
> And that the PDP's were 12 and 16 bit.

DECSYSTEM 10 and DECSYSTEM 20 were names applied to the later PDP-10
processors depending on whether they were sold with TOPS-10 or
TOPS-20 as the operating system.  They also had different color
schemes.

PDP-8s are 12-bit computers, PDP-11s are 16-bit computers.  VAXen are
32-bit, which has something to do with the "you're not playing with a
full DEC" quote.

Comments on size are about right.  I spent most of Sunday helping a
friend unload a DECSYSTEM 20 (KL10 processor) system from a truck into
his storage.  The processor, memory, front-end, and power supply are
in three cabinets which I think are 42" wide by 30" deep by about 60"
tall; I think all three of these are intended to be bolted together
when installed.

-Frank McConnell

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Subject:      Re: FILER.INI calling Batch files

   >Another question: Is it possible to cut off a number of characters
   >from an argument given to a batch file?
   >I'd like to let the batch crate a directory with the same name as
   >the ZIP file, but without the file extension. So FILER.INI would
   >call e.g.
   >c:\batch\unzip2d a:\zips\example.zip
   >and unzip2d shall make (besides other things):
   >md %1 (but without ".zip").
   >Is this possible in some way?
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 01:06:01 +0000

Easy to do in unix. Not so easy in DOS.

- Longden

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   >I crashed my LX and to make it work I finally had to go in and have
   >it boot from the d drive, which of course wiped out everything and
   >then some.  Now World Time is blank.  HP Calc comes up without the
   >Application screen.  Hearts and Bones is gone.  I have back ups of
   >my phone book, and some of my appointment book (although it wasn't
   >current).  But what happened to the other stuff????
   >I own CPack, but before I did anything I thought I would get advice
   >from the LX community.
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:04:32 +0000

To my knowledge, all the good stuff that you're missing is built-in and
doesn't need reloading from Cpack.

If you're still in a mood to experiment, I'd try another hard reboot to
initialize the RAM drive, and if that failed, I'd bleed the juice from the
system (all batteries out, press and hold ON for 1 minute).

- Longden

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William Schultz wrote:
> I crashed my LX and to make it work I finally had to go in and have it
> boot from the d drive, which of course wiped out everything and then
> some.  Now World Time is blank.  HP Calc comes up without the Application
> screen.  Hearts and Bones is gone.  I have back ups of my phone book, and
> some of my appointment book (although it wasn't current).  But what
> happened to the other stuff????

All the built in apps keep their brains in files in the C:\_DAT\
subdirectory.  You need to restore the files in that directory in order
for all the HP apps to return to normal.  When the LX starts up, as if it
were 'new', it'll create the directory and many of the files but they
won't have your data in them.

From the built in apps point of view C:\_DAT\ is the most important
directory in the system (along with the root directory).  Whatever you
back up, it is always a good idea to backup these two directories.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:08:45 -0600
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I was a walking out of the office and boing my leg hit the railing.  No
physical harm came to me but my REX thought it was so funny it cracked up.
Well being mostly an LCD panel that proved fatal.  Now I need a source for
help.  I have sent up flares at Xircom, but have little hope of them
honoring the one year warranty.  I am sure that they will not see that it
was a design flaw to develop a device so small and portable that doesn't
have the flexibility of the free leather case it came with.

Bottom Line.  Is there someone out there with one they want to part with? OR
Can someone tell me were to get a wrench small enough so I can take this
puppy apart and swap the screen from a unit with a broken battery door? I
have a real tiny set of torx wrenches but these puppies are between the two
smallest ones.

Thanks for your help.  I love having my 200lx contact list in my pocket at
all times now I will actually have to carry the 200lx with me everywhere.

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Date:         Sat, 28 Oct 2000 06:41:34 +0200
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and for my sequel to the Palmtop Papers's article:

 Just fiddle with the front of your trousers in a public place. Remember
 the cloth keyboard which you could simply sew into the front of your
 clothes? Today I bring you news of garments with "virtual pockets" made
 from touch-sensitive fabrics. Just tap away at a virtual pocket, for
 example, and your shass shopping list should flash up on the screen of your
 LX200.  http://www.newscientist.com/nl/1028/sock.html

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 = = =
Do try xircom - - - CALL FIRST (as we did) - - - a little while back my
wife's RexPro went
goofy and they "repaired" (in reality replaced) at n/c other than $5 for
s&h ----
it was 11months 12 days into warranty ---- total turnaround time less than 2
weeks : )
+++++

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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

lxpic v 6.4 (2000); certainly known:
If I have some graph-files in a dir and some other in some subdir(s)
and I only want to list the current dir, I would give:

        lxpic /l

But if there are only 3 graph-files, the whole screen is filled
with duplicated thumbnails. The other

        lxpic /ls

would show me the whole sub-dir-tree.

                Klaus.
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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
>
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> Hello!
>
> lxpic v 6.4 (2000); certainly known:
>
>         lxpic /l
>
> But if there are only 3 graph-files, the whole screen is filled
> with duplicated thumbnails.

Hello!

Precisicion:
On the lx-200 there seems not to be such a problem, only on my
old IBM-Thinkpad with DOS 5.0.

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Hello!

Searched the net for a transforming prog, which does the job
in b&w-mode from bmp to pcx, 'cause f.i. my old paintbrush
only saves pics as 16-col-pcx.
Who can give me a hint?

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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> > lxpic v 6.4 (2000); certainly known:
> >         lxpic /l
> > But if there are only 3 graph-files, the whole screen is filled
> > with duplicated thumbnails.
Hello!

2. Precisicion: The error occurs also (on the lx-200!),
if there is only one *.pcx.

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Hi There!

This is a stupid question, but since I must do something wrong, I have
to ask how it suppose to be done.

I am writing a simple Turbo C program and I want it to be able to take
an argument in form of a number: 0 to 5000, in the command line. Then
check so this number is between (or equal to)  0 and 5000, before it's
used. I would highly appreciate if someone could point me in the right
direction by giving me the required lines of C code which are required.

Thanks,

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Hi Ken
> Why would you want to...how are you going to read it
> sideways?????????????????????  I could understand
> printing that way(sideways

See someone is smart or kurious enough to ask...

It looks betta wen annotating maps and grafix.

PS: My question wuz: does anyone know of a
util, font set or way to put ASCII to the
screen sideways.

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No so, Larry. Compuserve Classic is the non-Compuserve 2000.
That means you get a numeric id, and you can even login using
the DATACOMM application on the palmtop. It means you have to
go through a bit of contortion to open a POP3 mailbox and you
get to choose your name (xxx@compuserve.com). It also means
you can use Post/LX, GP, LXTCP and whatever other products are
out there for email to send and receive email WITHOUT having
to use a browser.

That also means you have a cheaper account, and it non-AOLized
:> ... I am not 100% sure on pricing... Please check that.

It has nothing to do with the program level you use. I still
can use DOSCIM 1.36 and DOSCIM 2.2.3 for my emails on the
palmtop - an oldie DOS program. I can also use Compuserve 3.0
under Windows, 95 and 98, using the same user id to login...

I just visited the CS Software Support forum, and you can
download the software mentioned above from there...

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Thank you a who responded. I got an email from John.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Date:         Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:37:42 -0500
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Jorgen,

Are you talking about the argv(), argc() functions or are you beyond that
and wondering what to do next, namely convert the input to a numeric value
and then use the greater than, less than operators? Maybe use atol()  or
atoi()?

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Hi Avi,

Indeed. This email is being sent via Compuserve Classic. The only issue
was that it STILL is available to the public. Compuserve offers it
because the new 2000 version does not support Windows 3.1. The software
2.6x IS available on CompuServe.com if you know where to look.

As a matter of fact, Post/LX works so well with Compuserve classic,
that I just upgraded my account to unlimited, just so I could use it
exclusively with Post/LX.

And just for grins, I dug up the old DOS CIM (which you mention). It's
available on Compuserve in one of the forums. I've even set up TapCIS
again!

Regards,

Larry (just call me 74515,710@compuserve.com - A Member since the old 300
baud days)

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:45:13 -0400 (EDT), A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> wrote:

>
> No so, Larry. Compuserve Classic is the non-Compuserve 2000.
> That means you get a numeric id, and you can even login using
> the DATACOMM application on the palmtop. It means you have to
> go through a bit of contortion to open a POP3 mailbox and you
> get to choose your name (xxx@compuserve.com). It also means
> you can use Post/LX, GP, LXTCP and whatever other products are
> out there for email to send and receive email WITHOUT having
> to use a browser.
>
> That also means you have a cheaper account, and it non-AOLized
> :> ... I am not 100% sure on pricing... Please check that.
>
> It has nothing to do with the program level you use. I still
> can use DOSCIM 1.36 and DOSCIM 2.2.3 for my emails on the
> palmtop - an oldie DOS program. I can also use Compuserve 3.0
> under Windows, 95 and 98, using the same user id to login...
>
> I just visited the CS Software Support forum, and you can
> download the software mentioned above from there...
>
>   Avi M. İD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>

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Date:         Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:48:54 -0400
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Hi Larry and others,

>Weird. I just talked to CompuServe customer service, (800-848-8990), and
>asked about access for Windows 3.1. I was told that I could not sign up
for
>CompuServe 2000. Instead I would need to join CompuServe Classic. I told
her
>that I heard this was not possible, and she was quite surprised i.e.
joining
>Classic was still allowed, indeed needed for less than 95.

Thanks for bringing out the latest information on Compuserve Classic
access, Larry.  Since your post, I looked into it again, too.  Unlike a
year ago, they said that they are indeed offering new Compuserve Classic
accounts again. :-)

They mentioned they had discovered that their airline customers could
only use Compuserve Classic, so it appears that their airline customers
(and maybe others) were instrumental in getting Compuserve to offer new
Compuserve Classic accounts again. :-)

So, thanks to all who have fought the closure of Compuserve Classic
servers in the last year, Compuserve is now offering new Compuserve
Classic accounts again.  Hopefully Compuserve will reconsider the next
time they start thinking about closing down those servers. :-)

BTW, Compuserve is now running a special promotion offering a Compuserve
2000/AOL bundle for $29.95/mo.  The same bundle is not being offered to
AOL subscribers wanting a Compuserve account, but AOL members could give
up their current AOL account and then get a Compuserve 2000 account
bundled with a whole new AOL account with a different screen name,
directly from Compuserve.  Both services will be accessible from the same
special access software.

However, they are not offering Compuserve Classic in that package deal.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:07:14 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

 > > As far as I remember, C was chosen because
 > > the PAL group wanted to support a wide range
 > > of different compilers, and this would have been
 > > way too complex if not impossible if inline assembler
 > > would have been used. Therefore the "plain C code"
 > > rule has been created.
 >
 > That's only a problem with inline assembly.  An object module
 > written in asm is no different than an object module written in C as
 > far as the compiler/linker is concerned.

That's true, but you will need a bunch of different object modules - =
usually
one for each compiler. With plain C, you only need one source file for
any compiler. The main point, as far as I remember, was to support as
many compilers as possible with the least effort, and that could only be
done by avoiding assembler.

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>>I am writing a simple Turbo C program and I want it to be able to take
>>an argument in form of a number: 0 to 5000, in the command line. Then
>>check so this number is between (or equal to)  0 and 5000, before it's
>>used. I would highly appreciate if someone could point me in the right
>>direction by giving me the required lines of C code which are required.


if the arg is the only one on the command line something like this should
work

 ===========================================================================
===================
#include <stdlib.h>

void CallErrorFunction(char* str)
{
 if(str) printf("Wrong Value Entered  %s", str);
 else printf("Wrong Number of Args on Command Line");
}

void CallYourFunction(double num)
{
 printf("\nnumber is %f\n", num);
}

void main(int argc, char* argvİ¨)
{
   double dub = -1.0f;

    argc--;

    argc == 1 ? dub = atof(argvİargc¨) : printf("\nWrong Number of Args!"
                                                          "    %d\n", argc);

    ((dub >= 0.0f) && (dub <= 5000.0f)) ? CallYourFunction(dub) :
                     CallErrorFunction(dub == -1 ? NULL : argvİargc¨);
}

I take for granted you use a floating point number

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To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
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Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: HV code


>That's true, but you will need a bunch of different
> object modules - usually one for each compiler.
> With plain C, you only need one source file for
> any compiler. The main point, as far as I remember,
> was to support as many compilers as possible
> with the least effort, and that could only be
> done by avoiding assembler.

That would only be true if you used non-standard functions in the C
compiler from asm.  Other than that All the compilers except PowerC
can use the same object modules.  Unless there is a compiler being
used I've forgotten.  I do know that Turbo C and Quick C and MS C
can all read the same object modules.  You can even use the same
linker on all 3, but that isn't really necessary.

The odd one is PowerC but as I said there is a utility included to
convert .obj modules to .mix modules and that can be run by the
makefile and the user need know nothing about it.  The only extra
difficulty in the design of PAL is in putting together the make file
and the difference is trivial.  And that would be done before the
user downloaded PAL.

I just looked and I see you also have a Symantec compiler and some
compiler other that I'm not familiar with.  Both use .obj files and
if I remember correctly (I'm not certain that I do) Symantec uses MS
compatible .obj files.  I don't know about the other compiler.  In
any case, it should be trivial to deal with it without the user
having to be concerned.

The user I'm talking about is the inexperienced programmer.

Again, I'm not advocating that anyone do this.  I just don't see any
technical problems.  If some group was formed to do it, I'd give a
little time to it, but not a lot.  That's probably why it won't
happen.  Most people are probably pretty happy with PAL as it is and
can't justify the time spent.  The average user of PAL probably
isn't writing very large programs anyway.  And the professionaly
users can find a way to pack more in their programs if they really
want to.  There are always far functions and overlays.

The first computer I ever wrote for (in school) was an 8k IBM 360
mod 20 and the first rule we learned is there's always enough ram
for anything you want to do.  You just have to find a way.  One of
the programs we had to write couldn't be done in available memory (I
think we had about 5k usable).  That was before there was such a
thing as a linker that supported overlays.  We just wrote overlay
handlers into the program.  I don't think anybody in the class
failed to make this work, although some were pretty slow.  To make
it run fast you had to have the record processing loop in ram all at
the same time and that was the real challange.

Barry

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> Just fiddle with the front of your trousers in a
> public place. Remember the cloth keyboard
> which you could simply sew into the front of
> your  clothes? Today I bring you news of
> garments with "virtual pockets" made from
> touch-sensitive fabrics. Just tap away at a
> virtual pocket, for  example, and your shass
> shopping list should flash up on the screen of
> your LX200.

Very interesting, but I just read Matt Higgs description of what
happened to his Rex when he bumped into the rail.  I wonder if
brushing against the rail will spell "Format C: /y".

Barry

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> I am writing a simple Turbo C program and
> I want it to be able to take an argument in form
> of a number: 0 to 5000, in the command line.
> Then check so this number is between (or equal
> to)  0 and 5000, before it's used. I would highly
> appreciate if someone could point me in the right
> direction by giving me the required lines of C code
> which are required.

Let's assume that you expect the number in the first argument:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <math.h>

main(int argc, char **argv)
{
     int n;

 if (argc != 2)
 {
      printf("Not enough arguments\n");
      exit(1);
 }

 n = atoi(argvİ1¨);
 if (n < 0 || n > 5000)
 {
      printf("0 >= argument >= 5000 needed\n");
      exit(1);
 }

     printf("Success\n");
}

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> PS: My question wuz: does anyone know of a
> util, font set or way to put ASCII to the
> screen sideways.

Design your own font.

In text mode it'll look a little sqaushed but it'll work.  You'll
also need to write your own print command to handle it.

In graphics mode you have more control and won't necessarily get a
squashed effect.  You'll still need your own driver if you're going
to print real time.

But if you have a map and you just want to put some vertical text on
it, a lot of graphic programs will draw it for you.  If your
graphics program doesn't support vertical text, draw it horizontally
and rotate it 90 degrees.  Nearly every graphic program will do
that.  Windows Paint, for example.

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Date:         Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:32:33 +0000
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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> 2. Precisicion: The error occurs also (on the lx-200!),
> if there is only one *.pcx.

Thanks for the bug report. Will be fixed in the next release.

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              Sidney Ho <SKYHO@CSI.COM>
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In Europe Compuserve only offers "Classic". No "2000" service is available
yet and the techs do not know when it will be available. Dialup numbers will
have to be different. The Compuserve web page for international access phone
numbers is also not entirely accurate (I found that true in both Asia and
USA). It  depends on the type of operating system (Win/Mac) and version of
Compuserve software. Last time back in the USA (early Sept. 2000), I found
Compuserve making a strong promotion for Win based 2000.

> From:    Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
> Subject: Re: CompuServe Classic
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Feldman" <lfeldman@USA.COM>
>> Weird. I just talked to CompuServe customer service, (800-848-8990), and
>> asked about access for Windows 3.1. I was told that I could not sign up
> for
>> CompuServe 2000.
>
> Just checked the compuserve web site....the option they give you now is
> 2000.

---
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Date:         Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:10:59 +0100
Reply-To:     "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@iname.com>
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Hi everyone!

New member on the list here. I am a long distance cruising yachtsman with a =
small problem I hope you guys can help me with.

I am a very happy owner and "power user" of an Ericsson MC 218 (Psion =
Series 5mx in drag) which I use for all my daily computing needs. However, =
there is one job the EPOC machine cannot do for me, and that is to receive =
shortwave weatherfax transmissions. I have therefore purchased a second =
hand HP 200 LX with the hope that this machine can do the job.

I am, however having some problems. I have the Nasa Target shortwave =
receiver and am using (or attempting to use9 the Tarfax software which came =
with it. I first installed the program to C:, but got error messages from =
the program saying it needed more RAM. When I changed the DOS memory =
setting under the advanced tab on the system settings and tried again, the =
program told me it needed more disk space. I then borrowed the 80Mb CF card =
from my camera (there's no way I'm letting a foreign OS fiddle with the =
disk from my EPOC machine) and installed the program on the CF disk.

The program now starts, but the screen is unreadable, because it comes up =
in colour on the monochrome screen. It does not seem to work, and when I =
quit the program (blind), I get the following error message:

Runtime error 003 at 0000:111A

Do any of you guys have any experience in running Tarfax on a HP 200 LX, or =
possibly a suggestion for an alternative program I can use? The shortwave =
radio has the radio to RS-232 interface built in, so I'm not sure if it =
will work with other software, but it's worth a try as I guess these =
interfaces are relatively standard. The program works perfectly OK on my =
Toshiba CDS 200, but the power consumption of that computer is just too =
darned much for use at sea on a sailing yacht.

If the HP isn't capable of receiving HfFax, I'll just have to sell it again =
as I have no other use for it. In a book I have, there are photographs of a =
Sharp PC-3000 running weathherfax software, so I know it can be done on a =
relatively simple DOS computer.

PS. I just came back from an evening walk with the ship's dog. The display =
of northern lights was truly fantastic! WOW!

Regards,

Owen
--=20
Spending the winter @ 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E
Sigerfjord, Vester=E5len, Northern Norway

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311
c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN

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Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX and HF weatherfax software.
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Well, does the WeatherFax software let you configure a mono display?

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Owen H. Morgan
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 4:11 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: HP 200 LX and HF weatherfax software.
>
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> New member on the list here. I am a long distance cruising
> yachtsman with a small problem I hope you guys can help me with.
>
> I am a very happy owner and "power user" of an Ericsson MC
> 218 (Psion Series 5mx in drag) which I use for all my daily
> computing needs. However, there is one job the EPOC machine
> cannot do for me, and that is to receive shortwave weatherfax
> transmissions. I have therefore purchased a second hand HP
> 200 LX with the hope that this machine can do the job.
>
> I am, however having some problems. I have the Nasa Target
> shortwave receiver and am using (or attempting to use9 the
> Tarfax software which came with it. I first installed the
> program to C:, but got error messages from the program saying
> it needed more RAM. When I changed the DOS memory setting
> under the advanced tab on the system settings and tried
> again, the program told me it needed more disk space. I then
> borrowed the 80Mb CF card from my camera (there's no way I'm
> letting a foreign OS fiddle with the disk from my EPOC
> machine) and installed the program on the CF disk.
>
> The program now starts, but the screen is unreadable, because
> it comes up in colour on the monochrome screen. It does not
> seem to work, and when I quit the program (blind), I get the
> following error message:
>
> Runtime error 003 at 0000:111A
>
> Do any of you guys have any experience in running Tarfax on a
> HP 200 LX, or possibly a suggestion for an alternative
> program I can use? The shortwave radio has the radio to
> RS-232 interface built in, so I'm not sure if it will work
> with other software, but it's worth a try as I guess these
> interfaces are relatively standard. The program works
> perfectly OK on my Toshiba CDS 200, but the power consumption
> of that computer is just too darned much for use at sea on a
> sailing yacht.
>
> If the HP isn't capable of receiving HfFax, I'll just have to
> sell it again as I have no other use for it. In a book I
> have, there are photographs of a Sharp PC-3000 running
> weathherfax software, so I know it can be done on a
> relatively simple DOS computer.
>
> PS. I just came back from an evening walk with the ship's
> dog. The display of northern lights was truly fantastic! WOW!
>
> Regards,
>
> Owen
> --
> Spending the winter @ 68039.14'N 15029.34'E
> Sigerfjord, Vesterelen, Northern Norway
>
> Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311
> c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN
>
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Date:         Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:26:29 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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A suggestion was already made to see if you can configure Tarfax to run in mono
(vs color) mode.

I'll add that many specialized non-LX DOS programs do better in a plain DOS
environment ... I'd start there first.  Since you mentioned adjusting the system
settings for DOS memory, you're probably trying to execute inside the System
Manager (sort of like Windows).

To exit to pure DOS, press More (to get icon screen);
Menu/Application/TerminateAll/OK ... and you should have a DOS prompt with the
max memory possible.

Try starting your application from there.  If the program starts but fails to
communicate the the receiver via the serial port, you may have to run the DOS
SERCTL command to turn on the port (plus maybe some other commands to vary the
baud rate).

- Longden


<<
I am, however having some problems. I have the Nasa Target shortwave receiver
and am using (or attempting to use9 the Tarfax software which came with it. I
first installed the program to C:, but got error messages from the program
saying it needed more RAM. When I changed the DOS memory setting under the
advanced tab on the system settings and tried again, the program told me it
needed more disk space. I then borrowed the 80Mb CF card from my camera (there's
no way I'm letting a foreign OS fiddle with the disk from my EPOC machine) and
installed the program on the CF disk.

The program now starts, but the screen is unreadable, because it comes up in
colour on the monochrome screen. It does not seem to work, and when I quit the
program (blind), I get the following error message:

Runtime error 003 at 0000:111A
>>

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Date:         Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:05:40 -0400
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              Andy Kelley N1YEW <n1yew@SOFTHOME.NET>
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From:         Andy Kelley N1YEW <n1yew@SOFTHOME.NET>
Subject:      Re: Yahoo eMail POP access
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hey if you are lookin for a pop/smtp server check out the link at the end of
the page ( www.softhome.net )


ttyl
andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "G|nther Eisele" <guenther.eisele@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Yahoo eMail POP access


Hoi,

25.10.2000, 13:24, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Avi, I've created a Yahoo email account for myself, n6egj@yahoo.com,
> and added a mailbox to wwwlx and can't connect.  I keep getting an
> invalid account id message but scrolls away pretty quick.
> I have gone to the options to select pop access.

I don't have a yahoo account myself, but lots of other (free) pop3 servers
I successfully access with post/lx. Maybe you can post your complete
İyahoo¨ section (or however you called it) of post.cfg to the list. If you
delete your password, no 'secret' information is left, and we can have a
look at it.

One of my preferred errors is a wrong password. Maybe they just need a
nightly program run to activate your mailbox. Note: The pop3 access is not
activated from the beginning, as Avi said, you have to activate it on your
own.

Bye
G|nther

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Hello guys,

I downloaded Worlddb.zip from the SUPER site, unzipped it and saw it as
world.ndb. I loaded it in C:_dat and since it could not be viewed by
just clicking on Note Taker, I tried to add it to the App. Manager as
world.ndb,  but got the message "Either the file does not exist or is
not appropriate".

I then tried it in GDBWIN on the desktop, which regarded it as just
"World" - no extension. Gdbwin had no problem viewing the cities listing
or the details of an entry. It looked like a dbase I would like to have.

I renamed it as a .GDB, but my LX wouldn't look at it that way either
:-(  . Any help appreciated.

TIA

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 01:17:49 +0100
Reply-To:     "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@iname.com>
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From:         "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
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Hi!

Longden Loo wroote (>):

> A suggestion was already made to see if you can
> configure Tarfax to run in mono (vs color) mode.

I'm afraid I've lost the manual for the program. I have tried with "Tarfax =
/m" and "Tarfax -m", but this made no difference. I also tried "Tarfax /h =
and -h" in case there was a help function.

> To exit to pure DOS, press More (to get icon
> screen); Menu/Application/TerminateAll/OK ... and
> you should have a DOS prompt with the max memory
> possible.

I tried this, but it didn't help.

Would anyone of you guys care to have a stab at it if I e-mail you the =
program (off list of course)? You don't need a shortwave receiver to find =
out if the program is working.

I did try to look for Nasa (the manufacturer of the radio) on the www, but =
all I found was the US space agency and a company that sell the Nasa Target =
receiver, but then web browsing via cell phone with the MC218 does leave a =
little to be desired...

Owen
--=20
@ Sigerfjord, Northern Norway
68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311
c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway

http://pagina.de/naomi.j
Phone: +47 92053097=

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:00:06 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX and HF weatherfax software.
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> Hi!
>
> Longden Loo wroote (>):
>
> > A suggestion was already made to see if you can
> > configure Tarfax to run in mono (vs color) mode.
>
> I'm afraid I've lost the manual for the program. I have tried with "Tarfax
> /m" and "Tarfax -m", but this made no difference. I also tried "Tarfax /h
> and -h" in case there was a help function.

Other options that sometime work are

tarfax bw or /bw or /mono or /lcd  (all with/without slash)

Check out:

www.palmtop.net/super.html

for cgahelp (cgahlp?) which allows one to play a bit with color
conversion to grays.

That site might also have other fax programs for the hp.

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Date:         Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:34:52 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> If the HP isn't capable of receiving HfFax, I'll
> just have to sell it again as I have no other use
> for it. In a book I have, there are photographs
> of a Sharp PC-3000 running weathherfax
> software, so I know it can be done on a
> relatively simple DOS computer.

Someone suggested terminating the system manager but a slightly
cleaner alternative is to remove the last line from the autoexec.bat
file which says 200 and takes you into the system manager.  I can't
remember offhand if there's a copy of the autoexec.bat in C: or if
it uses one in D:.  If it's D:, that's really rom and you'll have to
copy it to C: and create a config.sys.  During boot it looks for
config.sys and then uses the autoexec.bat it finds in the same
place.

When this is done, reboot and it'll give you a fresh Dos unaltered
by the system manager.  This won't help with the colors but it gives
you a slightly cleaner system and a few things have worked that way
that haven't worked after terminating system manager.

I think there are 2 of those little Sharp PC's.  One is a 386 and
one is an 8088 or maybe a Nec V20.  The 80186 in the 200lx will run
anything the 8088 or V20 will run and the general compatibility of
the 200lx is very good.

If the Sharp in the picture you saw is a 386 and it uses 386 opcodes
the 200lx won't do it.  But I suspect that if that was the case you
wouldn't have gotten as far as you did.

The programs to help with CGA colors were mentioned in other posts
but sometimes it's possible to make it work without that by altering
the contrast (on + and on -) or reversing the screen (alt /) or
changing the gray scale representation (alt *), or some combination
of these.  I have a couple of things in color that I do that with
and they're just fine.  Other things don't work out well at all.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:46:54 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
 I can't
> remember offhand if there's a copy of the autoexec.bat in C: or if
> it uses one in D:.  If it's D:, that's really rom and you'll have to
> copy it to C: and create a config.sys.  During boot it looks for
> config.sys and then uses the autoexec.bat it finds in the same
> place.
Note that autoexec.bat and config.sys may be is resident on certain PCMCIA
cards when you boot up from them.  If you have stacker running on the card
you will have to dismount stacker.

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> Hello guys,
>
> I downloaded Worlddb.zip from the SUPER site, unzipped it and saw it as
> world.ndb. I loaded it in C:_dat and since it could not be viewed by
> just clicking on Note Taker,

Once in Notetaker, use Menu/file/open to point to the file.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:57:32 -0500
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: CompuServe Classic Was: Re: accessing E-mail from 200LX
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Larry Feldman wrote:
> Hi Avi,
>
> Indeed. This email is being sent via Compuserve Classic. The only issue
> was that it STILL is available to the public. Compuserve offers it

Yep! The stuff works just fine and it is solid as a rock.

All that Compuserve 2000 stuff seems to be just another
attempt to AOLize - they even have in the memebr are a login
that prompts for a "screen name" - YUCK!!! :) ..

I went into the member are (use your numeric id and password)
and the old software is in the CS Software Support forum
libraries. DOSCIM1.36, 2.23, WinCIM for Win3.1 etc.... Also
MACCIM is there...

They don't necessarily make it easy, because they want to
shove people into the place where they flash ads and get
income from selling you something - think AOL! That's how
these people make money.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:24:17 -0800
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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

I want to use SysMgr-macro to start 123 with 123ggg in the file-menue.
But it worked only once; is it a delay-problem?

On Fn-F1 I have a reliable end-macro.

Fn-F2   {Mehr}l{Zoom}{Alt+F7}{F9}{Tab}

In exkey.ini: {Shift+Menu}={Alt+F7}
                Klaus.
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When I click on it,  it tells me "Invalid file type".

Richard


"F. Kaufman" wrote:

> > Hello guys,
> >
> > I downloaded Worlddb.zip from the SUPER site, unzipped it and saw it as
> > world.ndb. I loaded it in C:_dat and since it could not be viewed by
> > just clicking on Note Taker,
>
> Once in Notetaker, use Menu/file/open to point to the file.
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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:48:25 +0000
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When I do that it tells me "Invalid file type" 8-((

"F. Kaufman" wrote:

> > Hello guys,
> >
> > I downloaded Worlddb.zip from the SUPER site, unzipped it and saw it as
> > world.ndb. I loaded it in C:_dat and since it could not be viewed by
> > just clicking on Note Taker,
>
> Once in Notetaker, use Menu/file/open to point to the file.
>
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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:56:44 -0800
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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> Fn-F2   {Mehr}l{Zoom}{Alt+F7}{F9}{Tab}
>
> In exkey.ini: {Shift+Menu}={Alt+F7}
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Hello!

Also without exkey the macro isn't working.
When I've just created the macro new, then often it works; but
when afterwards I've startet 200 it doesn't!

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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> Fn-F2   {Mehr}l{Zoom}{Alt+F7}{F9}{Tab}
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

I tried a lxb-file with the (stuffkey-) scans and it's working;
there only is the scan-asci for {Zoom} missing;
who knows it?

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:59:18 +0100
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Hi again!

Just a quick update on my struggles before I rush off to work.

It has turned out the reason menus are unreadable when the program is run =
from the CF disk (A: or E:) has nothing to do with the colour screen. The =
problem is simply that the program can't find the files containing the =
menus, even though they are in the same directory, so this is the reason I =
get a bit further when running it from C:.

The program was not installed, but simply copied from D: on my Toshiba =
where everything works, so it seems the program expects files to be on C: =
or D: and will not work with other drive letters.

Another possibility is that the 200lx somehow doesn't agree with the =
formatting of my 80Mb Lexar CF card, which was formatted by my Nikon =
camera, but this seems unlikely, as neither DOS, nor Filer have any problem =
listing or copying files on the disk, including photographs stored by the =
camera.

Tarfax consists of two programs, Wefax and Rtty. Wefax is a weather =
faximile receiver and Rtty is... you guessed it... for receiving Rtty =
(radio teletype) text. I get slightly further with Rtty (when run from C:) =
as this at least opens properly, but when I go to the reception screen, it =
displays the screen and then hangs. This may possibly be a problem with =
accessing the RS-232. I will experiment further and report back.

When I get back from work, I'll try making an autoexec.bat and config.sys =
on c: to see if a cleaner DOS will help.

A couple of people have said they would be willing to have a look at the =
program, and I'll see if I can send it off when I return from work tonight. =
Now off for eight hours of salting herring... You can't combine an exiting =
carreer with only working six months a year and travelling the rest, but =
every day spent at the factory pays for one day of sailing, so it's worth =
it! :o)

Owen
--=20
Spending the winter @ 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E
Sigerfjord, Vester=E5len, Northern Norway

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311
c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN

http://pagina.de/naomi.j=

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:04:54 -0800
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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> > Fn-F2   {Mehr}l{Zoom}{Alt+F7}{F9}{Tab}
> I tried a lxb-file with the (stuffkey-) scans and it's working;
> there only is the scan-asci for {Zoom} missing;
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

I got it (Zoom = 208 0) with Peichls LxPro.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:20:21 -0800
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              tracks users and reports info
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$$Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:11:25 -0400
$$Subject: Re: Fluff:  Warning!  Free cat shaped bar code scanner
software tracks users and reports info?
$$Message-ID: <000601c03e20$8045af60$d5aad1d1@imyours>
$$Received: from ImYours (wnch3-213.kih.net İ209.209.170.213¨)
        by autoreg.kih.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28284
        for <surf.lx@JUNO.COM>; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:06:57 -0400 (EDT)
$$X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
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$$can you advise me n where Ican get one of the free cat shaed scanners
$$Thanks
$$Champe
$$champe @kih.net

Gladly, and here some of your choices:
1. Subscribe to Forbes Magazine
( check the subscription restrictions / offers )
http://www.forbes.com/
2. Call Digital Convergence or visit
www.digitalconvergence.com
3. Visit your neighborhood (neighbourhood -if you are British) Radio
Shack
http://www.know-where.com/

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:41:21 -0500
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> totally on my 200LX).  The main function I use it for is the spell
> check and the thesarus.  Since it's so quick to load, it's easy to
> look up a word when I need to.  It's also nice to be able to take
>
I discovered that you can look up the spelling of words using just the
SPELL.EXE utility that comes with WP 5.1. You may need to change to the
directory that contains the dictionary file, and it helps also to use
LXSTAT or some other utility to set screen colors to monochrome, but a
batch file can take care of that.

Oddly enough, however, on startup, SPELL.EXE needs two random key presses
before it shows the title screen. Does anyone know why?

All in all, however, it's a quicker way to look up a word than starting up
WP itself.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:45:49 -0500
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> The program now starts, but the screen is unreadable,
> because it comes up in colour on the monochrome screen....

Try holding down the ON button while you press the / or the *
key.  These toggle different CGA display modes.  Also ON-+ and
ON-- (minus) vary the display contrast.

> and when I quit the program (blind), I get the following
> error message:
> Runtime error 003 at 0000:111A

This may be caused by insufficient memory.  This should be
fixed by exitting Sys Mgr, as Longden suggested.
(MORE/Menu/A/T,OK).

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:02:52 -0800
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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

Is there a (debug-)patch, to let f.i. the key-scan-window appear
in the right upper corner of the (80x25) screen; it would be a
plus for the tsr. So I could easily edit my lxbatch-file on the
left side of the editor.
In the doc I couldn't find such a feature.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:36:34 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, George Coleman wrote:

> > and when I quit the program (blind), I get the following
> > error message:
> > Runtime error 003 at 0000:111A
>
> This may be caused by insufficient memory.  This should be
> fixed by exitting Sys Mgr, as Longden suggested.
> (MORE/Menu/A/T,OK).

Well, if it's a QuickBasic program (which reported errors in that
fashion) then error code 3 is "RETURN without GOSUB" and what can cause
that I have no idea (except poor programming practices of course).

It might not be a QuickBasic program - other (Microsoft?) compilers might
use the same reporting mechanism. I will have to see the executable to be
sure.


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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:31:17 -0100
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Hello,

I need some expert advice. In order to access some files
on my HP 200LX through Connectivity Pack (LapLink Remote)
from Windows 3.11 applications Excel and Word, I needed to
activate the SHARE.EXE on the 200LX. This works fine now,
no more complaints from Excel or Word about a missing
SHARE.EXE or problems to open or save a remote file.

However, having the SHARE.EXE active on the 200LX generated
a new problem: if I run a backup from the Connectivity Pack
(which calls 200BACK.BAT) the backup stops with a message
"cannot copy xxx to yyy" after about 35 files. This is
related to the active SHARE.EXE on the 200LX. Changing
SHARE parms does not help.

I found that the number of files after which the backup stops
relates to the FILES statement in the clients AUTOEXEC.BAT
(where CPACK runs).
If FILES=40 the backup stops after about 35 files.
IF FILES=80 the backup stops after about 75 files.
I assume a few (5) are in use by STDIN, STDOUT, or whatever
is active.

Analysing the 200BACK.BAT files shows that the real backup work
is done by a DOS program DOSBACK.EXE. (It assumes the environment
variable UN_LLRA=0, which shows the LLRA link is up. Its only
parameter is an exclamation mark. Without it it tells me it wants
to run from within the 200BACK.BAT.)

I cannot see a reason for this interrelation between the SHARE.EXE
and the FILES= parameter. To my knowledge SHARE maintains two
tables for locks and open files, and FILES declares the number
of files DOS can open at one time.

I cannot beleave that DOSBACK.EXE keeps all files open that it
intends to back up. It could be hundreds from different A: and
C: directories, which would anyhow extend the max. for FILES.

Who can inspire me with her or his throughts about this?
I would like both, SHARE and a working CPACK backup.
I appreciate any help.

Regards
Norbert


--
Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:13:05 +0100
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Surfer Surfer wrote:

> 3. Visit your neighborhood (neighbourhood -if you are British) Radio
> Shack

Actually, I think it would be called "Tandy" not Radio Shack, if you are
British ;-)


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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:56:48 -0500
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: cybercafes safety
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Dear Nathalie,

Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>   Avi M. İD&A¨  http://www.dasoft.com wrote
>  "If you are happy with the prospect of love letters to your
> wife to be shared with some hacker from some other country, or
> maybe a nice confidential email from someone else being shared
> by whoever - maybe even sold by the hacker to your competition
> - then you have the solution in cybercafes. But I think you
> just had no idea this is so.
> I'll let other people comment on the cybercafes safety and on
> my opinion on them."
>
> either you install PGP or observe a taboo on details İaddresses, phone
> numbers etc.¨ which could give away the sender -- all other writing cannot
> be attributed to the writer without signature/voice/video proof. Other than
> that, encrypted attachments seem safest.

Thank, my dear friend for writing. I agree mostly with what
you write. But when you are in a cybercafe it is likely that
your files are on a computer a few thousand kilometers away.
Also, it is hard to send an email to someone without putting
the email address on the email. This method tends to rely too
much on miracles, a religious concept which we will not pursue
here :-)

Amities,

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:16:01 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> Also, it is hard to send an email to someone without putting
> the email address on the email.

this is one of those instances where it would be wise to get a free mail
account from hotmail or yahoo.  the less private information deposited on
the cyber cafe computer the better.

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:29:47 +1300
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>> 3. Visit your neighborhood (neighbourhood -if you are British) Radio
>> Shack

>Actually, I think it would be called "Tandy" not Radio Shack, if you are
>British ;-)

...and furthermore, neighbourhood is spelt correctly in many countries
other than Britain - in fact, any English-speaking country that isn't
the USA ;-)

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:21:31 -0800
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Even better, try http://mailandnews.com

Pretty nifty, and has secure connection too...

Thanks,

Philippe

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: cybercafes safety


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> > Also, it is hard to send an email to someone without putting
> > the email address on the email.
>
> this is one of those instances where it would be wise to get a free mail
> account from hotmail or yahoo.  the less private information deposited on
> the cyber cafe computer the better.
>
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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:47:07 +0800
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At 02:59 PM 10/30/00 +0100, Owen H. Morgan wrote:
 >
 >Tarfax consists of two programs, Wefax and Rtty. Wefax is a weather faximile
 >receiver and Rtty is... you guessed it... for receiving Rtty (radio
 >teletype) text. I get slightly further with Rtty (when run from C:) as this
 >at least opens properly, but when I go to the reception screen, it displays
 >the screen and then hangs. This may possibly be a problem with accessing the
 >RS-232. I will experiment further and report back.
 >

One thing to be aware of is that the HP Serial Cable is a null-modem in
itself, therefore you will need to attach a null-modem adaptor (or a
null-modem cable) to get a standard COM port connection.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:51:46 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: Re: cybercafes safety
> Even better, try http://mailandnews.com

Warning: the site has the following announcement:
The MailandNews servers will soon be undergoing needed maintenance. During
this time, your old mail may be temporarily unavailable.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:13:31 -0800
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I'm another WP5.1 user. On my desktops I use Word97,
WordPro and DeScribe. I have a doublespeed 5 meg
200lx. WP51 sits on my 40 meg san disk flash card that
I purchased from Scott. My setup is a little larger
that Mr. Heise's but I have installed two add ons
Screen Extender and W&W's Stedman medical spell
checker.

I print several documents a week from WP51. I use the
IRDA drivers to print to a HP 2100 Laserjet at work.
The scaleable fonts make wordperfect invaluable.
I also keep 20 or so stock forms and memos on my
palmtop. The 2100 is attached to a dedicated custom
database, and there are no other workstations
available. This makes my 200lx the only game in town.

I have the B&W option set for WP and this helps make
all the menus look good.
SET WP=/MONO


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Subject:      anyone have a copy of GrandView for sale?

I'd like to find a copy of GrandView or some other outliner.
There are a couple that have been released as obsoleteware,
but my memory is that GrandView has not and is the best.
Anyone have a copy they want to sell?

                                Mark

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:00:50 +0100
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Hi!

Teo Soon Bock wrote (>):

> One thing to be aware of is that the HP Serial
> Cable is a null-modem in itself, therefore you
> will need to attach a null-modem adaptor (or a
> null-modem cable) to get a standard COM port
> connection.

Yes, I gathered this much as it's the same on my Ericsson MC218 (Psion 5mx =
in drag.)

However, this is not the problem. I haven't even attempted to connect the =
LX to the radio yet. There isn't much point before I've got the software =
working. What I meant was that the problem (with RTTY) may possibly be that =
the software is unable to access the RS-232 in the LX.

The radio connection is just two wires, ground and data in, no handshake or =
anything like that, so a malfunction, or faulty wiring on the radio end =
would not cause the software to hang (,but there wouldn't be any signal of =
course.) There is a small circuit built into the radio which I believe =
consists of an OP-amp and a couple of other bits. Many years ago I built a =
similar circuit for another radio, other software and another computer, but =
had no success at the time, probably because that radio wasn't up to it.

To recap:

WEFAX program:
If I run it on C: it displays the menu, then tells me there is insufficient =
disk space. I have 1391616 bytes free on C:.
If I run it on A: or E: (80Mb CF card borrowed from my camera) it only =
displays the backgrounds for the menu, probably because it's unable to find =
the files containing the menu. These files are in the same directory as the =
.EXE, and I'm in that directory when I start the program. When I quit the =
program (blind), it exits with a runtime error.

RTTY program:
If I run it on C: it starts OK, but when I go to the reception screen, it =
displays the screen and then hangs.
If I run it on A: or E: it does not display the menu and exits (blind) with =
a runtime error just like WEFAX does.

One conclusion to draw from this is that the programs need to be on C: or =
D: (shoddy programming...) They work on D: on my Toshiba.

As for the RTTY program when run from C:, I may need to configure something =
to enable it to access the RS232 on the LX. (I guess this would be true of =
WEFAX as well if I ever get that far with that program...)

I'll leave you guys to chew over this. I didn't get any more experimenting =
done today, as I got railroaded into helping a friend set-up a new Toshiba =
notebook rather than play with my own toys.

Now for some sleep, There's an easterly gale forecast for tomorrow. That's =
the worst direction for this harbour. :o(

Owen
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@ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway
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Is there a way to keep the Appointment Book from popping up the first time
I switch on my HP 200 LX each day? I've got a WorkPad c3 (aka. Palm Pilot
Vx) from the company I'm working for and I'm moving a number of
applications over. The Appointment Book is ideal for moving since EasySync
provides a much better synchronization of the WorkPad's calendar with Lotus
Notes than I could ever provide with my LotusScript program for the HP 200
LX.

Now I don't need the Appointment book anymore but it still pops up every
day. Is there a configuration file with an entry that I could delete to get
rid of it?

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You know Lotus Agenda can be used as an outliner.  It can be
obtained of SUPER.
Cheers
Tony.

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Subject: anyone have a copy of GrandView for sale?


I'd like to find a copy of GrandView or some other outliner.
There are a couple that have been released as obsoleteware,
but my memory is that GrandView has not and is the best.
Anyone have a copy they want to sell?

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:07:57 -0000
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Yes, in the Appointment application goto Menu -> Options -> Daily Greeting.
Just selecting it toggles the daily greeting, which by default gives you
today's appointments and todo's.

I think you can make Daily Greeting do other things, but I can't recall how.
Anyhow this will fix your 'problem'.

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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> Is there a (debug-)patch, to let f.i. the key-scan-window appear
> in the right upper corner of the (80x25) screen; it would be a
> plus for the tsr. So I could easily edit my lxbatch-file on the
> left side of the editor.

The windows size and position are fixed and designed to fit on
the screen in all 16 screen modes available on the palmtop.

What you want to do, is not possible, because you cannot edit a
file and have a LXPRO window open at the same time. You first
have to exit from LXPRO before you may continue editing. But
then the LXPRO window is no longer in the way.

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:32:47 -0800
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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

I'm editing filer.ini with ks, addkeys or lxb but the keyboard-
buffer is often too small. The tried util buffmove.exe and the
kbuf128.sys are not working, worse they cause hanging my lx-200
and I have to reboot.
Is there a reliable kebuf-expander for the lx-200?

                Klaus.
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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:06:32 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Ulrich,

> Is there a way to keep the Appointment Book from popping up the first =
time
> I switch on my HP 200 LX each day? I've got a WorkPad c3 (aka. Palm =
Pilot
> Vx) from the company I'm working for and I'm moving a number of
> applications over. The Appointment Book is ideal for moving since =
EasySync
> provides a much better synchronization of the WorkPad's calendar with =
Lotus
> Notes than I could ever provide with my LotusScript program for the HP =
200
> LX.
>
> Now I don't need the Appointment book anymore but it still pops up =
every
> day. Is there a configuration file with an entry that I could delete to =
get
> rid of it?

Have a look at (apllication apptm) Options, Daily Greeting and disable
it.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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I'm still having fun with the 1.5 Rechargeable SRAM card Hal sent.  I
haven't quite figured out how long it needs to charge before getting its
maximum number of discharge hours.  I do know what the Swedish Railway
went to (the Jornada) because I bumped into the website while trying to
find a Windows Driver for the card.  Anyway...

I discovered that my last back up didn't contain the latest data.  I have
an EXP card with 8 meg of memory.  I did a back up about a year ago, and
I did a back up (to the same place on the card) about 6 months ago.  The
data on the card is mainly from the year old back up.  I was certain that
I told the back up to overwrite all the data.  Perhaps not.

I was wondering, what is the best way to get a perfect back up of
everything?  Perhaps you folks who do more copious back ups could tell us
your method.

Thanks
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If any of you are regular users of Derive, I need to correspond with
you off-list.  I have some particular trigonometric equations I want
to manipulate symbolically.  I have had very mixed luck getting them
to work.  I think it is operator error, because every once in awhile
it will suddenly perform the exact reduction/expansion that I want.
Problem is, I can't figure out how to control it.  I have the manual,
which so far has not been much help in this particular area.

Thanks,

-Chris Lott
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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:43:28 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I use pkzip and a system macro/batch file tied to the Appointment book which
fires off a backup nightly at 1am.

I have a 48mb Sandisk CF card and have organized the directories so that most of
my "user data" is in one area, so I zip that entire directory into a file in a
"backup" directory on the CF card.

Then the nightly backup zips the entire internal drive (I have a 6mb LX with
about 2mb used on C:) into another zip file in the backup directory.  In the
event of a major crash or a hard reset, I can (and have) always recover the C
drive from the night before.

And whenever I get the notion, I pop the 48mb CF card into my 800CT Omnibook's
card slot and run zip there too, to make a copy of the entire card (about 36mb).
Takes about 30 secs to a minute.

I had considered doing a daily network backup of my LX to the server at work,
with complete incremental backup and recovery, but cringed at the thought of
throwing my personal data on a publicly accessed media (privacy and corporate
use issues).

This scheme works for me, but I'm sure there are other methods that work better
depending on your needs and resources.

Whatever backup method you devise, remember that ALWAYS, the last step is to
simulate an actual disaster and use your method to recover.  Better to find the
bugs in your scheme now than later.

- Longden


<<
I was wondering, what is the best way to get a perfect back up of
everything?  Perhaps you folks who do more copious back ups could tell us
your method.
>>

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Oops, I should have noted reply directly to
 "Wendy Teo" <WendyT@aportis.com>
Patrick West wrote:
>
> Wendy Teo on Tue, 24 Oct 2000 wrote:
>
> From: "Wendy Teo" <WendyT@aportis.com>
> To: patrickwest@uswest.net
>
> Our company, Aportis Technologies, is a
> Portland-based company that develops
> software for wearables and carryables.
> We are working on an exciting new product
> and we are seeking a very limited group of
> external testers. This product will run on the
> WindowsCE and PocketPC platform.
omited
> wondering if you know of any potential beta testers
> who might be interested
> in being one of our testers?
omitted
> Wendy Teo
> Aportis Technologies Corp.
> http://www.aportis.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: "William Schultz" <revwkschultz@JUNO.COM>
> I was wondering, what is the best way to get a perfect back up of
> everything?  Perhaps you folks who do more copious back ups could tell us
> your method.

Yeah...back up more often than six months.

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> ...and furthermore, neighbourhood is spelt
> correctly in many countries other than Britain
> - in fact, any English-speaking country that
> isn't the USA ;-)

The British are constantly teaching bad language habits to folks.
When are y'all going to larn proper English!  Come to Texas and larn
how to talk raht.

Actually, "spelt" is funnier than "neighbourhood".  :)

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The really annoying thing is that this device has a microphone attached. . .
and when your TV speaker emits a special "beep" the "cat" brings up a web
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              Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE>
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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> Is there a reliable kebuf-expander for the lx-200?
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

WORKAROUND:
Found a very old but short buffer-set asm-prg and generated from
it a reset-prog. So the keyboard-buffer can temporarily widened
for longer (until 128) buffer-sequences; should be reset, 'cause
'some' progs seem to rely on the orig. addresses.

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Ulrich,
In the appointment book, press menu and options. Press G to turn off. To turn
again just press G again.

Richard

Ulrich Boche wrote:

> Is there a way to keep the Appointment Book from popping up the first time
> I switch on my HP 200 LX each day? I've got a WorkPad c3 (aka. Palm Pilot
> Vx) from the company I'm working for and I'm moving a number of
> applications over. The Appointment Book is ideal for moving since EasySync
> provides a much better synchronization of the WorkPad's calendar with Lotus
> Notes than I could ever provide with my LotusScript program for the HP 200
> LX.
>
> Now I don't need the Appointment book anymore but it still pops up every
> day. Is there a configuration file with an entry that I could delete to get
> rid of it?
>
> Ulrich Boche
>
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RE: Fluff: Warning! Free cat shaped bar code scanner software tracks =
users and reports infoWhat happens if you are in the middle of doing =
something else like downloading a file?  Does it abort the download?

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  From: Corso, Tony=20
  To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:04 AM
  Subject: Re: Fluff: Warning! Free cat shaped bar code scanner software =
t racks users and reports info


  The really annoying thing is that this device has a microphone =
attached. . . and when your TV speaker emits a special "beep" the "cat" =
brings up a web page associated with the show you are viewing. İcaught =
this watching "frontline" on PBS¨

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:13:27 -0500
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Hi All:

   Has anyone heard of this VIRUS? I can't find any reference to it on
   NORTON or McAffee, but I just got a copy...fortunately on  POST/LX
   so I'm safe(I hope).

   Cheers...AJKind

*
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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:36:46 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: ADMIN: "Plan Columbia" VIRUS
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Al Kind wrote:

>    Has anyone heard of this VIRUS? I can't find any reference to it on
>    NORTON or McAffee, but I just got a copy...fortunately on  POST/LX
>    so I'm safe(I hope).

http://www.zdnet.com/zdhelp/stories/main/0,5594,2583071,00.html

It's just an I Love You variant. Found it using Google in no time :-)

Incidentally, is this really an HPLX-L Administrative issue (I thought
attachments and such were stripped from postings)? I suppose you're
abusing the "ADMIN"-announcement because you *can* <g> ;-)


Cheers,

Laust
(and that was just a joke in case anyone missed the smiley...)

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         William England <wsengland@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Yes, I had it.  It is on Symantec's web-site, but I don't have any more info
on it.  You remove all "*.vbs" files, delete a few registry settings and you
are back in business.  The problem is it attaches itself to your jpg and
mp2/mp3 files, so you will lose most of them.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Kind" <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:13 PM
Subject: ADMIN: "Plan Columbia" VIRUS


Hi All:

   Has anyone heard of this VIRUS? I can't find any reference to it on
   NORTON or McAffee, but I just got a copy...fortunately on  POST/LX
   so I'm safe(I hope).

   Cheers...AJKind

*
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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:14:20 -0500
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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From:         Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF:Norway/Norhernlight was Re: HP 200 LX and HF weatherfax
              software.
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:10:59 +0100, Owen H. Morgan wrote:

> Hi everyone!

Hi there :-)


> New member on the list here. I am a long distance cruising yachtsman with a small problem I hope you guys can help me with.

You should do something with long lines in your newser..it does not
cut/wrap on 72 chars..

> I am a very happy owner and "power user" of an Ericsson MC 218 (Psion
> Series 5mx in drag)

Closest thing to a Hplx I have found..but still a "chicken" :-)


> PS. I just came back from an evening walk with the ship's dog. The
> display of northern lights was truly fantastic! WOW!

Yep..it is amazing.. :-)

> Spending the winter @ 68039.14'N 15029.34'E
> Sigerfjord, Vesterelen, Northern Norway

Not sure where I am in length/widht and all that, but the northern
light is amazing here also in Narvik. Have to go to Tromsx where they
can get the light to change colors too. I have to see that sometime :-)

> Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311
> c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN

Long south this..you should spend your summers here north too..daylight
all the night..I can drive my mc all night..

Regards


--
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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:14:21 -0500
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Hi

Sometimes my Hplx 8mb ds will not turn itself off after a
appointmentalarm. I wonder what causes this behaviour. If I reboot
(ctrl-alt-del) it works again.

These are the programs I use regulary:
Www/lx V34/Irda(Maxdos)
Notebook
Mpg(Miles per Gallon)
Phonebook
Calculator

Nothing very special as you all see.

This is my config.sys

files=50
buffers=35
stacks=8,128
device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys /M=2
device=a:\usr\spd31.exe
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack2
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com c:\pack1
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos
Lastdrive=h

My autoexec.bat
echo off
prompt $p$g
path d:\bin;d:\dos;g:\usr;g:\batfil;c:\progs\jam;c:\usr;g:\usr\200mnu

g:\progs\abc\abctsr.com
g:\usr\killmsg /M /C
g:\usr\alarm /i
g:\usr\autocaps.com
g:\progs\quicklx\quick.com /a
c:\usr\maxdos.com -l -e -wc:\
subst e: c:\w

g:\usr\nofiddle.com
g:\usr\datetest 2000
g:\usr\moreexm.com
g:\usr\exkey\exkey.com -fg:\usr\exkey\exkey.ini
m.bat

maxdos -r
alarm /e

I hope that somebody can help me. It is a problem that the Hplx stays
on and runs its batteris down without me knowing it

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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Date:         Wed, 1 Nov 2000 01:56:47 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: backing up data
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William Schultz wrote:
> I was wondering, what is the best way to get a perfect back up of
> everything?  Perhaps you folks who do more copious back ups could tell us
> your method.

Probably the best backup is a complete image backup but it is slow. To
make one insert an EMPTY flash disk (big enough to hold all your files)
in the LX.  Next quit all open application.
Finally from a DOS prompt type:
  xcopy c:\*.* a:\ /s/e/v

This will copy ALL non-System and non-Hidden files to the flash disk and
preserve your subdirectories.

You can update the backup with this commmand:
  xcopy c:\*.* a:\ /s/m/v

This will backup new and changed files but it won't deal with removed
files that only exist on the backup.

I generally do an image backup and then a couple of update backups
before doing another image backup.

It's almost impossible to backup too often but I would say one month is
too long and 6 months is out of the question.  It's your data though so
only you can put a price on losing it.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:23:04 -0500
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:13:34 -0500 (EST)

I admit I may have stretched the ADMIN privilages a bit <g>, but the
address that was attacked was the HPLX-L_Request address, so I wasn't
too out of line. As mentioned, I did a quick("very quick" as I was on my
way out the door when I saw it) search on the MaAffee & Norton sites
and their search engines didn't hit on the first pass. As the message
was passed by an HPLX-L member, that may have had contact outside the
HPLX-L with other members, I thought it was prudent to see if any of
you had any experience with it...better safe than sorry ;-)

BTW the author of the message did reply to my alert, and has "cleaned"
his system.

Happy Halloween!

Cheers...AJKind

05h36m48s ago ...
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Al Kind wrote:
>
> >    Has anyone heard of this VIRUS? I can't find any reference to it =
on
> >    NORTON or McAffee, but I just got a copy...fortunately on  POST/LX
> >    so I'm safe(I hope).
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdhelp/stories/main/0,5594,2583071,00.html
>
> It's just an I Love You variant. Found it using Google in no time :-)
>
> Incidentally, is this really an HPLX-L Administrative issue (I thought
> attachments and such were stripped from postings)? I suppose you're
> abusing the "ADMIN"-announcement because you *can* <g> ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
> (and that was just a joke in case anyone missed the smiley...)
>
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>
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Date:         Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:17:13 +0100
Reply-To:     "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@iname.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX and HF weatherfax software
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Hi!

John Musielewicz<a123456@bitstream.net> wrote (>):

> You might try putting assign a: c: in the
> autoexec.bat file. Then it will look on a for
> files that are supposed to be on c. I don't know
> if it'll work I've never had the problem you
> describe. It is one of the first things I would
> try though.

It didn't help, but the fact that it didn't lead me to the source of the =
problem. On the Toshiba and on C: on the LX, I had put Tarfax in =
"\WEATHER". On the CF I had it in "\HP200LX\WEATHER". The problem wasn't =
the drive letter, but the directory.

However, the programs still don't work. RTTY still displyas it's reception =
screen and then hangs, and WEFAX now comes up with the menu without the =
disk space error message, but going to the reception screen displays a =
blank screen. I can, however, exit cleanly from the reception screen with =
"ESC" (which doesn't work in RTTY).

I'm starting to suspect that maybe WEFAX runs in VGA mode, in which case =
I'll have to look for some other (older) Weatherfax program, providing I =
can find one that works with my radio. I think the only problem with RTTY =
now may be that it for some reason fails to access the RS232.

While I have your attention... If I ever get this working, will I be able =
to print by IR to my Canon BJC80? (I have the IrDa patch.)

Owen
--=20
@ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway
68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311

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Date:         Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:21:00 -0600
Reply-To:     mack@times2tech.com
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: key-buffer-problem
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> I'm editing filer.ini with ks, addkeys or lxb but the keyboard-
> buffer is often too small. The tried util buffmove.exe and the
> kbuf128.sys are not working, worse they cause hanging my lx-200
> and I have to reboot.
> Is there a reliable kebuf-expander for the lx-200?

All the keyboard buffer expanders that I have tried work on the 200LX. The
problem is that you have to load it within the first 64K of DOS memory or
none of them will work. I preferred kbuf128.sys for many years myself until
I added a 64 key buffer to my speed upgrade driver as an option. Try making
kbuf128.sys the first driver to load in your CONFIG.SYS.

Cheers,
Mack

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