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Thanks to those who passed on the missing files.

I still haven't got the palmtop working with the Zip drive.

I'm using a 1MB LX200 with a 32MB memory upgrade.

Here's my config.sys:

device=3Dc:\spd31.exe
device=3Dc:\rdt2t.exe
device=3Dc:\rdswap.exe
buffers=3D24
files=3D30
lastdrive=3DJ
DEVICE=3DC:\MAXFLASH\TFFS.COM /DRIVE=3DA /SIZE=3D4096

I disabled my autoexec.bat.

All files mentioned in the Trans Digital manual are in the
root directory - C:.

I boot with ALT, option 2.

I run A:\CIC G (assuming that guest.exe will select g:).

Now that I have guest.exe v.4.0.1, it tells me that there
is a null printer assignment.

Any suggestions?

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 00:17:41 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

Hi Philippe,

>My Megahertz XJ14400 (or something like that) got that error message,
and my
>EXP ThinFax 1414LXM didn't.
>The people at Palmtop.Com don't know why. All they could suggest is a
few
>initialization strings, to no avail. Strangely enough, connecting with
>Datacomm works with both modems.
>
>Go figure...

  How would I contact the people at Palmtop.com who you referred to
above? It would be useful to be able to ask them directly about the
problem and to see if they might have any suggestions. I would hope that
they would know of others who have successfully connected with the same
kind of modem that I've got.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 00:09:30 -0400
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Hi Phil,

>I don't know what software you are using to support drive sharing from
DOS,
>however if you have Filer set-up for remote operation it might be the
reason
>for losing the serial port when the App Manager is running.

  I'm not sure that I understand what you mean here. I did nothing to or
within filer except to simply open and then close it again. I did not
change filer's setup in any way.

>Also try toggling the Serial Port power setting in the Setup utility.

  If you are referring to just turning the serial port power on, then I'm
sorry to say that I've done that already. It didn't do any good. I've
also tried simply toggling the power off and on with the same results.

  It's not really that big of a deal, as I can easily just open a DOS
session from the system manager each time after booting my HP200LX. It's
just got me really puzzled... that's all.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 00:46:16 -0400
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Hi Longden,

>FWIW, I think I had the same problem with ccMail also. Worked fine
without
>any tweaking on my XJ1144 modem but got that error msg using the XJ3144
>modem (a preferred modem cuz it's lower power).
>
>I looked up the modem reference and found some things to add to the init
>string and so made a file called c:\_dat\xj3144.mdm that's based on the
>built-in d:\_dat\hayes.mdm.  I forget what the added settings were for,
but
>it amounted to just one added line.  Here's an FC compare of the two
files:

  That's the problem. Each modem requires a different init string. I
didn't get a manual with this modem, so I have no reference to check. I'd
like to talk to the people at Palmtop.com and see if they have a good
init string for the particular modem that I have. I have no contacts at
Palmtop.com who might be able to point me in the right direction.

  I've worked with ordinary modem init strings before when I ran a
computer BBS a few years back, but I've never worked with a cellular
modem before. I have no idea what even a generic init string would look
like for a cellular modem.

>Comparing files HAYES.MDM and C:\_DAT\XJ3144.MDM
>***** HAYES.MDM
>HANGUP=ATH0
>SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4
>***** C:\_DAT\XJ3144.MDM
>HANGUP=ATH0
>SETUP=AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0
>SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4
>*****
>
>I believe the order of the SETUP statements lets me override the
original
>without deleting it... tho I probably should've done so to be neat.

  Actually, unless you include a command to reset the init string in some
way (such as ATZ), two init strings entered one after the other are
commulative in effect.

  Why they include two different "setup" strings, one after the other, in
even the default hayes.mdm file completely escapes me.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:14:01 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX
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F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > Is the 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX?
>
> The ORIGINAL 95 cable was not compatible as it only had four connectors.
> When HP created the 10 pin 100/200 cable, it came with a 10-4 adapter.
> So, if someone has that NEWER cable, it would be compatible by using the
> adapter.
>
> Also, just for reference.  The 95's ac adapter canNOT be used with the
> 100/200.  Altho, the 100/200 could be used with the 95, as I recall.
>
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So true there is an 95lx adapter that plug into the 200lx cable
connector.
then you can use the ac/dc adapter with 95lx  also the serial cable,
unplug the
adapter (95lx) and you have ac/dc adapter and serial for 200lx.
I do this all the time when I want to tranfer files to and from my 95lx
/200lx
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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 14:18:41 +0900
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On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:14:58 -0400
aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote:

> Sure did. What i've tried as my test is to open HV and try and see if one of
> the japanese files in the subdir (helpj.htm or homej.htm) can be read offline
> and I coulldn't read them. Just got the code. however, when I went into filer
> I had some Japanese texts and was able to view them. Hmmm.

Have you edited the HV.CFG for Japanese setting?

It seems that you set the fonts to use PAL fonts such as lucs15.hfn,
etc in HV.CFG.  These PAL fonts does not support Japanese language.

You need to delete all these settings under ÝFonts¨ section.  HV will
use system fonts (now supporting Japanese by DSP14A) automatically, when
it does not find other fonts.

In HV, you need to disable Latin-1 support and to enable Japanese
support from Menu.

All these setting are written in the document found on D&A site.  Of
course these documents are in Japanese and is of no use if you cannot
read Japanese so far.


 Toshiki
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I've never found specific HP/LX stuff at Dayton. You will find PCMCIA cards
of various tyoes, however.

I haven't been in a few years, but do plan to go this year. The flea market
is amazing -- so many toys, so little time! If you've never gone, don't miss
it.

Necessary items for a successful trip:
A backpack to carry your treasures -- you gotta keep your hands free!
A hat, sunblock, and plastic rain poncho -- either the sun is beating down,
or it's raining.
VERY comfortable shoes
A notebook (or HP200LX) to record the booth numbers with items you want to
go back to (although when you go back the item will be gone!)

Who else is going to Dayton this year? Let's all plan on getting together at
lunchtime on Saturday -- I propose meeting at 12:30 in the arena -- someone
pick a section number, because I can't remember how it's marked.

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hello everyone,

I am using smmlx for some time now and like it very much. The
only problem is that the hplx often hangs after adding or changing
program entries (but fortunately only then). Is there any cure for
this problem available?

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Thanks Toshiki. That was my whole problem.
Tony

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Does anyone know if it's possible to transfer software from the palmtop to a
plam pilot via the IR port?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
wrote:

> Getting a strange error message tyring to use WWW/LX w/ my new Apex Data
> modem Ý(part of Smart Technologies, acc. to the label)
> The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem ÝI left my notes outside; so
> this'll only be close¨. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit
> and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up.  It was something like: "Timeout
> while waiting for D:"

I use the exact same modem in my 200LX with WWW/LX Plus to
dial CompuServe and have no trouble with it.  I don't use any
init string at all.

The W=15 D: is the script command to wait for the login ID
prompt from CompuServe.  I don't know why you are not getting
that prompt.  Perhaps there is something else missing above
thin in your script.  Here is mine:

ÝCIS_Script¨
e=Initializing modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
d=
s=\r
w=75 CONNECT
@=1
e=Connecting to CompuServe
s=\003
w=15 D:
e=Sending login
l=
s=+/GO:pppconnect\r
w=10 word:
e=Sending password
p=
s=\r
e=Waiting for CompuServe to authenticate
w=75 PPP


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"Dan Ridenhour" <driden@stlnet.com> wrote:

> Many ISP's offer multiple email accounts now, so they can lure away AOL
> and Prodigy customers.  Prodigy for example gives users 5 email accounts so
> everyone in the family can use the same ISP but have their own email
> accounts

Yes, I understand that.  I would consider that multiple
mailboxes for the same ISP - no big deal - very common.  I
thought the question was about multiple instances of the same
maillbox.


Stan

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:
> wondering why we are stuck with DOS5.0 on the LX?

I run DOS 5 on my home desktop.  I looked at the DOS releases
that came out after 5 and couldn't find any compelling reason to
change.  While the newer DOSes might have been bundled with some
interesting applications the core function really hasn't changed
much.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 14:11:27 -0400
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Subject:      Re: "could not establish connection"

Hi All,

I tried setting speed in CC:Mail's setup to 9600 baud and attempted a
connect. That produced the same results as before... even to the point of
CC:Mail still reporting "Answered at 14,400 baud", which seems kind of
strange, to me.. after that message, I still got the error, "Could not
establish connection.".

Another interesting observation:  After attempting a connect to
Palmtop.com with CC:Mail, my network ceases to be able to access the
palmtop's drives anymore until I reboot it. I'm now starting to wonder if
CC:Mail's drivers or software might be somehow conflicting with my
network software.

Tomorrow, I'll try running my HP200LX without the network software
installed and see if that makes a difference. I doubt if that would
actually enable a connection, and I don't really mind rebooting after
using CC:Mail, but I don't want to leave any stone unturned, either.

Hopefully, by then, someone here will be able to point me in the
direction of Palmtop's tech support so that I may write them about the
problem, as well. Who knows, they may know of a good init string for this
particular modem. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, the label on the bottom of my modem card indicates that the model is
CELLECT 14.4 PCMCIA. It does have, "Motorola 5000 Bradford Dr.
Huntsville, AL  35805-1993" on the label. I guess as a last resort, I
could write to that address and ask if they could dig up a manual, but I
really do doubt that they would know much about Palmtop.com's
requirements.

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 14:30:37 +0200
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Subject:      Re: "could not establish connection"

John J Vanderstel writes:
> Hi All,
>
> I tried setting speed in CC:Mail's setup to 9600 baud and attempted a
> connect. That produced the same results as before... even to the point of
> CC:Mail still reporting "Answered at 14,400 baud", which seems kind of
> strange, to me.. after that message, I still got the error, "Could not
> establish connection.".

Did you put %B9600 in the initialization string to set the dce speed
to 9.6k?

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 17:08:33 -0400
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Subject:      openning a gdb file with Wordperfect
Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>

Addressed to: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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** Reply to note from Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:15:22 +0200
> At this point I will make a suggestion. Perhaps it is no news for the
> hackers on this list: If you open a GDB file with WordPerfect, it
> recognizes it as a "WordPerfect 5.0 secondary file". That means, the
> merging format of WordPerfect or let me say, the datafiles (if you merge
> datafiles with text- or formfiles). I remember the WordPerfect tool
> "notebook" that was a little free form database as the built-in
> LX-Database. The look and feel and the creation of the fields was the
> same. I think, the built-in database is WordPerfect! If you open a GDB, it
> is imported to WordPerfect with the official WordPerfect delimters (field
> tags etc.). Unfortunately, it had nothing to do with DataPerfect. This is
> another story.
>

What version of wordperfect are you using?  I tried to open a gdb file,
several in fact, in WordPerfect 5.1 dos after reading the above.  It
wouldn't work for me.  .

Patrick West
patrickwest@uswest.net

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aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote:

> Does anyone know if it's possible to transfer software from the palmtop to a
> palm pilot via the IR port?

Those two computers cannot share software because they have
entirely different Operating Systems and CPU architectures.


Stan

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Ron Burnett <ronburnett@CSI.COM> wrote:

> DEVICE=C:\MAXFLASH\TFFS.COM /DRIVE=A /SIZE=4096

Perhaps your Zip drive difficulty has so do with this driver.
It might be very protective of the PCMCIA port and does not
like other cards to work there while the flash card is
removed.

You should try it with this driver NOT loaded.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 14:46:45 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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While trying to save a edited file in MemoExpress it displays what I think
is a warning box. But its in Japanese. So if you can read Japanese
please visit my site and tell me what that warning box says.

The screen shot is under "Help Needed".


Regards,

Qman...

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

10>4 adapter for 95lx has found a new home.

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Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM> wrote:
> Do you have a possible reason for having multiple inboxes fro
> the same ISP?

Perhaps:

My ISP's POP3 server is shared by all at my company. I download the =
messages (mostly mine) filtering them into folders for this mailing list, =
other people at the office and finally everything else. The everything =
else tends to be my "regular" mail (and spam!).

If, from the list view, I point at the mailing list folder and do a =
CTRL-D (to delete from server), POST/LX asks "Delete all mail on POP3 =
server for HPLX Mailing List?" If I answer yes, it doesn't delete anything=
 on the next run. If I do the same thing on my inbox, everything gets =
deleted, including the mail for other people at the office, who may not =
have downloaded it yet.

Could I get around this problem by having multiple inboxes? I don't see =
how I can stop each inbox downloading everything.

Thanks for your wisdom so far Stan.
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Every time I had trouble with scripts that I'd expected to work not =
getting what they were waiting for, it was the wrong connection speed, so =
garbage was coming back.

Try the buitl-in datacomm app and do a connect with that as a sort-of =
"terminal". You should be able to see the messages getting sent (or the =
garbage!), so you know what to W(ait) for.


<snip>
> and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up.  It was something like: =
"Timeout
> while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and =
finding
> "D:" Ý"W=3D15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact¨.
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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 22:53:44 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Boot sequence on LX

Russel Brooks writes:
> Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:
> > wondering why we are stuck with DOS5.0 on the LX?
>
> I run DOS 5 on my home desktop.  I looked at the DOS releases
> that came out after 5 and couldn't find any compelling reason to
> change.

I run DOS 3.3 on my home desktop.  It does everything I need
and is rock solid.  4 stunk and 5 is my second choice.

Ted


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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 23:49:39 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Serial port data logger?

Fellow palmtoppers, I come to you for help.  I will be
attending procedures in a clinical trial of a new medical
device this coming week.  The device is operated by a foot
pedal and is run intermitantly throughout each hour-long
procedure.  I need to track the length of each individual use.

Ideally I would try to tap in to the foot pedal signal, but
don't have access to it.  The device also makes an audible
noise when operating.  If I rigged a switch to manually
open or close a connection between two pins of the LX serial
port, is there a way to poll that connection every second
and then write its state to a file?

Any suggestions gladly accepted.

Ted

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 00:18:27 -0400
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From:         Nicholas Chan <ncknight@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:04:39 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

Fryday wrote:

> I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really
Sorry to post this to the list, but I don't have this guy's direct email. Please do email a
copy over. Thanks!

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>Those two computers cannot share software because they have
>entirely different Operating Systems and CPU architectures.


But the pilot doc files can be read on the lx with additional software from
super

-goe-

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 17:32:57 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> hello everyone,
>
> I am using smmlx for some time now and like it very much. The
> only problem is that the hplx often hangs after adding or changing
> program entries (but fortunately only then). Is there any cure for
> this problem available?
>
> Reinhard
>
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I asked the same question some time ago. I did not get any solution to
the problem. I suspect it has something to do with the config.sys files
file/buffers and all that

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 06:33:46 -0400
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 Is there anyway to run WWW/LX on a desktop machine for module development
?? CPACK run it ?? or do i have to use the 200LX (keyboard and screen)

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 12:40:26 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Does anyone please have the full version of the document file that comes
with DOSmatic from SUPER that they could e-mail to me?

When I download the DOSmatic zip file from SUPER and unzip it, I get
only a partial document file that terminates after page 6.

Without the full version of this file, I don't have the full running
instructions.

Thanks

In message , John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> writes
>

>try dosamatic from the SUPER site. It swaps to memory. It works but
>you are limited to the 640k since it doesn't use expanded as near as
>I can tell.
>
>John
>

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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On Sun, 2 May 1999, Peter Maddern wrote:

 Has anyone tried VMiX or PCTask on a LX yet? can it multitask ??

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 15:07:23 +0300
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              Juha Husgafvel <hysky@TUUG.ORG>
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Hello!

I just updated Outlook Calendar&Task to HP Appointment Book utility.
It can be found at:
http://www.tuug.org/~hysky
ol2lx-0.2.zip

It should now work with Outlook97 and repeated appointments/todos should
work better.

Bug reports etc. to:
hysky@tuug.org

Bye,
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Have you tried McSquared, the pure-energy fast food?
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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 10:31:07 -0400
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Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> If, from the list view, I point at the mailing list folder and do a
> CTRL-D (to delete from server), POST/LX asks "Delete all mail on POP3
> server for HPLX Mailing List?" If I answer yes, it doesn't delete anything
>  on the next run. If I do the same thing on my inbox, everything gets
> deleted

When you say list view above, you really mean the main screen.
 Do you know that you can select individual messages to be
deleted from the server?   If you highlight a single message
in either the list view or the message view, and use the
Ctrl-D, you will be prompted to delete that selected message
from the server or all downloaded.  If you select that
message, then on the next online run it will be deleted.

So, you can use this technique to delete all of your messages
from the server and leave the other people's messages there.
This technique is a little bit cumbersome, but it will do what
you want.


Stan

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Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM> wrote:

>  Is there anyway to run WWW/LX on a desktop machine for module development
> ?? CPACK run it ?? or do i have to use the 200LX (keyboard and screen)

Certainly, WWW/LX Plus will run on a desktop or notebook
computer.  All you need is a utility TSR that loads before the
WWW/LX Plus program to simulate some of the services that are
only in the ROM of the palmtop.

There are a couple versions of this program, and one of them
is included with the CPACK.  It is called CGAGRAPH.COM, look
for it in the CPACK200 directory.  Use it as follows:

CGAGRAPH /load
www -d      or however you run WWW/LX Plus
CGAGRAPH /unload

There is also a version of this called CG.COM in the 100/200LX
developers SDK.  There is also programs called PALRUN and
INT5F written by Harry Konstas that will do this.  Harry's
programs are available on the SUPER site and probably on D&A
Software's web site (www.dasoft.com).


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"Stephan Goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> wrote:

> But the pilot doc files can be read on the lx with additional software from
> super

In this case, you are using the Palm Pilot doc files on the
palmtop.  Doc files are data, not programs.  Data is much more
easily shared between two different computers than are
programs.

Programs are specific to the hardware and data is specific to
the software.  So, the programs from the palmtop and pilot
cannot be exchanged, but with a special program on the
palmtop, pilot data files can be used.


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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 23:12:25 +0800
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Hi,
I used to hv the similar problem. I suspect it was caused by the ems200.
After I delected this from the config.sys, it works fine. May be other
members in this list have a better solution that we can use both at the
sametime?

Roger

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=A5D=A6=AE: Re: smmlx crashes


> Reinhard Mueller wrote:
>
> > hello everyone,
> >
> > I am using smmlx for some time now and like it very much. The
> > only problem is that the hplx often hangs after adding or changing
> > program entries (but fortunately only then). Is there any cure for
> > this problem available?
> >
> > Reinhard
> >
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>
> I asked the same question some time ago. I did not get any solution to
> the problem. I suspect it has something to do with the config.sys files
> file/buffers and all that
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill
> Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
> mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
> Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
> --
> .."This --> {  } is probably the best button to press."
> (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)
>
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if it's possible to transfer software from the palmtop to a
> > palm pilot via the IR port?
>
> Those two computers cannot share software because they have
> entirely different Operating Systems and CPU architectures.
>
> Stan
>

Stanley,

Are you sure you want to phrase it that way? I mean, while what
you say may be true for some definition `software' one surely _could_
usefully pass lots of data back and forth between otherwise
`entirely different' systems and architectures using IR (How about
an HP talkting to a TV set, for example...)

And then there are machines that run emulators for other machines. In
such cases the actual `programs' can be run (DOS on an APPLE, for
example). As far as I can see nothing (except perhaps `practical
engineering') stops a DOS machine from sending a DOS program to an
APPLE that it can run thru its DOS emulator.

While it is probably true that there is no useful link in the particular
case being discussed, it seems to me that you rather substantially
overstated the basis and reasons.

Stanley Dobrowski also wrote:
>
> "Stephan Goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch> wrote:
>
> > But the pilot doc files can be read on the lx with additional software from
> > super
>
> In this case, you are using the Palm Pilot doc files on the
> palmtop.  Doc files are data, not programs.  Data is much more
> easily shared between two different computers than are
> programs.
>
> Programs are specific to the hardware and data is specific to
> the software.  So, the programs from the palmtop and pilot
> cannot be exchanged, but with a special program on the
> palmtop, pilot data files can be used.
>
> Stan
>

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 11:00:26 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem
Comments: To: "stanleyd@CARROLL.COM" <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>

re:
>I use the exact same modem in my 200LX with WWW/LX Plus to
>dial CompuServe and have no trouble with it.  I don't use any
>init string at all.

Maybe I'll try deleting the codes from the init. string block in setup and
try it then; our scripts look the same Ýexcept a few of my login messages
(echos) are different "Connecting to CIS" instead of "...CompuServe" and
that "can't" be the trouble¨.

Still tinkering; thanks to all for all the suggestions so far!

The fact that yours works gives me hope ;-)

--tim

PS.  What does the "ÝCIS¨" portion of your script look like?  You can send
it off line to save those that get the LX-Digest, I'm curious about the part
that says "Baud=xxxx".  I've got mine at 28800, 'cause that's what part of
the modem's "returned" message gave as the connect rate before it hangs.....
Heck, you can just send that line, if you want, on list.  I may have to bug
you or someone else soon for the whole script, especially since you use it
to access CIS.

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 11:02:49 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem

re:

>First, I would like to suggest when you post a message to this list,
>and then request that all replies to your post be offline (private), is
>an insult to the readers on the list, and to the whole concept of

No insult intended, to you or the list.

If you'll see the part where I said:

> Not sure what else to share here. This may be too specific a problem for
the
> list and I'll accept any suggestions/help offline....

It's because I belong to some other lists with high traffic, small bandwidth
and short tempers.  The moderators chew you out if you get too far into the
"weeds".  I forget that the LX list is much more forgiving. :-)

You may notice that in a more recent post, I suggested Stan send me some of
his login script off-line out of respect to those who receive this in digest
form and won't want to scroll thru it.

I'm happy to share info; heck, that's what I do for a living ;-)    If
anyone wants what I've gotten offline Ýwhich is nothing, so far¨, I'll share
... I think we may have to go off-line only for sending whole .CFG scripts
Ýfor me, if you of someone with this modem is willing to send them, I'd
suggest a post to all that says something like "Scripts on the way to ya,
anyone else with this modem, or similar, wants a copy, just holler" and then
send the script text off line.  I get each message at work and digest (on
the LX) at home and I'll testify that it's a chore to scroll thru a message
that quotes someone's entire original post.... Ýnot dinging or digging at
those who do ... there may even be some email programs out there that don't
give you much choice or chance to edit down the whole thing¨.

re:
>...no problems with landline access.  I have not modified the default
dialing
>script at all.  I use for modem init: AT&F (I think this is actually
>the default, not ATF....

The Creative modem chokes on AT&F, but likes ATF fine Ýit may ignore it ;-)
!!¨.

I'll keep trying.  I'd like to get this to work!

Still waiting for the third cable Ýthe "DAR3" I think they call it¨, it's
backordered at Mobile Planet.  Without that, I won't get to try it w/ my
cell phone .... 'Course, this gives me more time to make it work w/
land-lines!

Thanks again to all!

--tim


CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 16:25:26 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX module development
Comments: To: Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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>  Is there anyway to run WWW/LX on a desktop machine for module development
> ?? CPACK run it ?? or do i have to use the 200LX (keyboard and screen)

Not sure what you mean by module development but www/lx runs in a dos
box on the desktop under Win95.  But you need to emulate the hp graphics
screen using any of a number of programs including the cg.com (or
cgagraph.com) that comes with the cpack or palrun (probably on the www
site) or intf5a (???) which all setup the screen to run hp graphics.
Many of these limit the Win95 box type since the graphic mode is not
normal.

They will also run on just a dos computer but again, the graphic must be
emulated.

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 12:31:29 -0400
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MemoExpress warning box?
Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hey QMan!

18h37m08s ago ...
On Sat, 1 May 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> While trying to save a edited file in MemoExpress...

How do you like ME? I thought it only worked w/ the Japanese fonts? Is
it better/smaller/more versitile that PE, etc...

Cheers,


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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 12:06:00 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boot sequence on LX
In-Reply-To:  <1286607405-55762646@talent.com.au> from "Russell Hemery" at May
              1, 99 09:31:31 am
Content-Type: text

> What does BOOT Commander do and what advantages?

It allows you to have multiple boot configurations in your CONFIG.SYS
file.  It prompts you with a menu at boot time to select an option.
You can program default configuration and a timeout.  Then when you
complete processing CONFIG.SYS, there's a method of obtaining the boot
selection in your AUTOEXEC.BAT, to that you can continue to tailor
your setup there using IF statements.  I hear it is similar to the
shareware LACE program available on SUPER.

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 12:06:04 -0500
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The two machines have to speak the same IR protocol.
Current laptops (and probably the Pilot) speak, I think, IRDA.
The LX uses an older protocol. Some HP laptops came with
a special driver to speak to the LX.
I'm sure its discussed in our archives.

Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> >Those two computers cannot share software because they have
> >entirely different Operating Systems and CPU architectures.
>
> But the pilot doc files can be read on the lx with additional software from
> super
>
> -goe-
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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 12:53:50 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop IR to Pilot IR
Comments: To: Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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              1999 at 12:06:04PM -0500
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I've been trying to get the lx to do IR communications with other
devices for years, especially the palm pilot series.  The goal
has always been to share info w/o a bunch of clumsy cables. And
of course, to secretly make fun of people at meetings ;¨

well, i've tried a lot of things on the lx side (including the
IRDA printer drivers) without success.  recently however, I was
on pilotgear.com looking for tealdoc files, and found a pilot
shareware utility name IRLink 1.2.

IRLink supposedly allows for a lot of nifty features, but the only
one of  importance <g> is it that it teaches the palm pilot HP-SIR
which is what the lx speaks.

Using this, i've been able to transfer files smoothly with all
my piloteer friends.

Until someone comes out with complete IRDA drivers for the lx (hint;)
or something along those lines, then this is the only wireless
method of communication with a pilot I've been able to get working.

As an aside, i've found the palmV has a  much wider IR recieving
range than the lx.  i can beem bytes to the palm from a rather
obtuse angle while the palm could only get to the lx in a near
straight line.

--francois

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 13:56:59 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

Hi John,

>> I tried setting speed in CC:Mail's setup to 9600 baud and attempted a
>> connect. That produced the same results as before... even to the point
of
>> CC:Mail still reporting "Answered at 14,400 baud", which seems kind of
>> strange, to me.. after that message, I still got the error, "Could not
>> establish connection.".
>
>Did you put %B9600 in the initialization string to set the dce speed
>to 9.6k?

  First of all, I unloaded my network software from my HP200LX and
attempted to connect to Pamtop.com with CC:Mail, just to ensure that
there are no possible software/driver conflicts. I got the same, "Could
not establish connection" error.

  I retained the clean system and did the rest of my testing in that
"purest" states.

  I looked at the hayes.mdm data file's two setup settings and found no
reference to the "%B9600" command, so I opened Data Comm and sent "ATZ"
to the modem which promptly returned "OK", and then I sent "AT%B9600".
That too returned an "OK", so it does seem to be a valid command for this
modem. However, that produced the same result.

  I then went back to Data Comm and sent "AT&F" and then "AT%B9600".
Another attempt to connect produced the same result. :-(

  There are two different "setup=" settings in the default hayes.mdm
file. Since I don't understand the way they are used, I'm not sure how to
construct a valid alternate .mdm file to even randomly test the use of
different init strings.

  I hope a way is found to communicate with the right technical people at
Palmtop.com about this problem.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, if this is a problem faced by many who attempt to try their service,
then I hope to be afforded the opportunity to influence them about the
need for a list on their web site consisting of either recommended init
string sets for .mdm files or whole recommended .mdm files for various
modems.

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 13:31:19 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

%B9600 sets the line speed to a max of 9600 for the cellect. I believe
$h will give you the help screen for the commands. Anyway I tried connecting
with my old cellect cellular pocket modem. I got the same error at 14.4.
Tried different strings. Nothing so far. It wouldn't even connect when
I set the line speed to 9.6k. I'm not surprized though. I have problems
with it connecting to my ISP too! If you need AT commands I still have
the manual for it and the help displays them too. Hopefully there's not
much differance between a 14.4k Cellect pcmcia and pocket.

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 21:59:31 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop IR to Pilot IR
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>I've been trying to get the lx to do IR communications with other
>devices for years


Can you explain your experiences, please? I'm very interested

 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 21:56:10 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: multitasking on a LX
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> Has anyone tried VMiX or PCTask on a LX yet? can it multitask ??


Well, it is a 80186, so it only can 'emulate' multitasking. Some people say,
an 80186 can not multitask. Of course it cannot. But you should not forget,
that Windows 3.1 too only emulates something M$ called 'multitasking'. The
only really multitasking I saw was in OS/2, Linux and Windows NT.

I think, VMiX or PCTask will only work well, if you have enough free EMS.

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 23:06:05 +0200
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From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi Roger,

> I used to hv the similar problem. I suspect it was caused by the
ems200.
> After I delected this from the config.sys, it works fine. May be other
> members in this list have a better solution that we can use both at the
> sametime?

thanks for the hint, but I removed emm200 and still have the same
problems.

Reinhard

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 09:08:33 +1200
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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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I have just finished the above, transferring it to the palmtop and
processing all the images, it comes to over 8meg & 800 files
and zipped it is still 5.6meg

The question is, does anybody else want it? Would super
be interested in it at that size? It is like my version of the
1995 factbook, but with country pix and flag pix and of
course, more up-to-date info

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 18:31:48 -0500
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              "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM>
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David Lawrence wrote:
>
> I have just finished the above, transferring it to the palmtop and
> processing all the images, it comes to over 8meg & 800 files
> and zipped it is still 5.6meg
>
> The question is, does anybody else want it?

YES!!

Can you attach to an eamil to me only, not the list?

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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 16:30:43 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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What exactly is a CIA World Fact Book?  I may be interested in a copy.  Is it
just useful overall facts?  If so, could you e-mail me a copy also?  I would
love to have it on my palmtop when I get around to getting a big enough memory
card or upgrade.

Dan Carrington




"David R. Birch" wrote:
>
> David Lawrence wrote:
> >
> > I have just finished the above, transferring it to the palmtop and
> > processing all the images, it comes to over 8meg & 800 files
> > and zipped it is still 5.6meg
> >
> > The question is, does anybody else want it?
>
> YES!!
>
> Can you attach to an eamil to me only, not the list?
>
> David
>
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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 19:40:34 -0400
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From:         Walter Francis <wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The CIA World Fact Book 1998
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> David Lawrence wrote:
> >
> > I have just finished the above, transferring it to the palmtop and
> > processing all the images, it comes to over 8meg & 800 files
> > and zipped it is still 5.6meg
> >
> > The question is, does anybody else want it?

I'm sure Mitch would put it on the SUPER site for everyone to get, and save
you a bunch of uploads..  :)

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I have wp5.1 installed and it seems to work well except for one problem.
When I go into equation > create,create an equation, and then go back to the
text page ... the colors all change.  I left a perfectly readable page and
return to a very black page.  I can't make it readable by reversing the
image.  Has anyone seen this before and know a solution.  Thanks
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Date:         Sun, 2 May 1999 19:22:28 -0700
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It works fine for me.  Do you have  the line
SET WP=/MONO
in your autoexec.bat?  This fixed a lot of problems for me.

rtatham wrote:

> I have wp5.1 installed and it seems to work well except for one problem.
> When I go into equation > create,create an equation, and then go back to the
> text page ... the colors all change.  I left a perfectly readable page and
> return to a very black page.  I can't make it readable by reversing the
> image.  Has anyone seen this before and know a solution.  Thanks
> Ron
>
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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 00:05:09 -0400
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              74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM
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I dont know about previous conventions, but i am going to
make my first pilgrimage to the sacred grounds at dayton this
year!

I will have my trusty 200lx(probably in car, gotta watch geek
factor :-))

also,who knows what i might take home....

73
n0xlw
dave

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OK, i know this is a bit off list....but here goes.

I've been watching with interest the OB sales announcements
here on the list.  gosh, now i wanna know more about them.

So, can some out there please give me a quick and dirty
comparison of the different models?  i know they start at 300
and end at the ob800.

keep in mind i am a 200lx user and my pentium notebook does
more dusk gathering than ever before.  An OB could prove
quick useful.....

mucho gracias in advance,

dave

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Date:         Sat, 1 May 1999 01:11:22 +1200
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              Malcolm & Karyn <masfmt@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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When i was using my lx at my previous job  i was able to print to our fax
machine because the fax machine was connected to our PABX. I simply
connected the modem to a PABX extension and "faxed" to the fax extension
using minifax and a exp modem. I now see that they have 8 meg cards with
external batteries.
Quick simple and effective.

I have also used a serial to parrallel converter and a parrallel buffer to
get the speed up as different printers print at different speeds and if you
dont get it right you dont get a complete print. I looked a t making up a
switch box system so that i could come home and plug in one cable to the LX
and have access to both the computer and the printer but it was going to
cost too much and was very complicated. When i get my LX fixed ill try
again.


>Think about the printing. I think most of us don't print directly with the
>LX.
>There isn't a lot of serial printers out there. The use of IR is the
easiest
>way
>to print (no cable, no special PCMCIA card). And I think the fastest too.
>To be able to print directly from the LX would improve my work, because
>I would do much more on the LX, if it could print. But until now, I don't
>have
>a IR-receiver like the redeye etc. and am not printing directly. I always
>have
>to transfer my work first to the desktop and print it from there. I had a
>flirt
>with a PCMCIA-Parallelport-Card. But it is definitely too expensive for me.
>So I said: "Hey look, you have a serial port, a PCMCIA slot and an IR port.
>Why do you need a parallel port?" The PCMCIA slot is of course already
>filled with my 32MB Viking CompactFlash card.
>

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 15:18:38 +1000
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Hi all

I was wondering if anyone has ideas or methods as to how a field can be
updated within a DB to note when each particular record is last accessed and
also when last updated?

ie
Bob Jones
Tel (123)4567890
Address

Record created 10/12/98
Modified       1/2/99
Last accessed  2/5/99

Is there an easier/more efficient way than Macro?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 05:50:02 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

>  would anyone be interested in something small and external for
> sound output ??

Yes, would be nice. I remember there's somewhere on SUPER a
description how one can build a serial sound device.

For what do you need such a thing?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 17:48:17 +1200
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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I should have approached
Mitch first and asked if super would host the file, as I pay by
the pico-second on this isp and cannot afford to be sending out
too many 6meg emails!!!

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 07:25:36 -0400
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Subject:      WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem
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"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
wrote:

> Maybe I'll try deleting the codes from the init. string block in setup and
> try it then; our scripts look the same Ýexcept a few of my login messages
> (echos) are different "Connecting to CIS" instead of "...CompuServe" and
> that "can't" be the trouble¨

Right, those script lines are just there to tell me what it is
doing.  Not critical to the script's operation.

I find init scripts to be far more trouble than they are
worth.  Many people seem to think that the longer the init
string is, the more likely communications are to work.  I find
it to the the opposite.  I just have an  ATM0  in the init
string to shut off the speaker.  I always stay away from all
those fancy settings and I seem to have no trouble.

Butting a  Z  in the inti string is not a good idea because
sometimes the modem takes a few seconds to recover from the
reset and certainly enything else on the init string is not
used.  Also, this doesn't make sense for a PCMCIA modem
because it is powered up (and therefore reset) right before
you use it.


Stan

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Subject:      Palmtop IR to Pilot IR
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David Ness <DNess@Home.Com> wrote:

> while what
> you say may be true for some definition `software' one surely _could_
> usefully pass lots of data back and forth between otherwise
> `entirely different' systems and architectures using IR

The question was specifically about passing _programs_ between
the Palm Pilot and the HP palmtop via IR.  I think my answer
was correct in that context.  I did not say anything about
data.  If the question was about data, then I would have
happily answered that data passing and/or sharing could be (or
may already be) possible.

Also, the original question was not about emulators and Apples
running DOS and the other stuff you mentioned.  I know those
things exist and do work, so you are correct that in the very
broad sense, my statements were not correct.

It is good that you highlighted the narrow scope of my
statements.  Thanks.


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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 07:39:30 -0400
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              Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM
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Subject:      Synchronization w/pocket quicken on the LX
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   On  Thu, 29 Apr 1999 Eben Rubin wrote:
   Does anyone have any experience with Intuit's "Pocken Quicken Connect"?
   The HP connectivity pack merges and synchronizes with only up to Quicken
   for Windows 3, and I'm up to 6 already.

   I thought I could translate/synch the HP with my old Quicken 3, and then
   let Quicken 6 import the data. It's easy enough to get Q6 to convert the
   file, but it won't merge it with existing data. So I wound up exporting
   and importing QIF files. It worked, but it was a pain.

   Does anybody have a better solution?
   And does anybody have a copy of Pocket Quicken Connect that they're not
   using, and might want to sell?

I have been using Pocket Quicken Connect for a couple of years ever since
Quicken changed the data structure.     Unlike the HP CPack, Quicken Connect
will not synchronize the data - just import it into Quicken.      The program
will export the quicken balances back to the HPLX.     One thing to watch out
for is the size of the pocket quicken file.      Since I reconcile on the
desktop I had lots of un-reconciled transactions on the HPLX and the file grew
very big.     Once I caught on what was happening, I trimmed the pocket quicken
file and clear the keep uncleared transaction option.      Also, I recommend
backing up the pocket quicken data often.     Once in a long while, the connect
fails locking the  HPLX locks.       Overall I have been very happy with
Connect.       I am not sure if Intuit still sells Pocket Quicken Connect but
someone should have an old copy.
Good Luck,
Joe

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 07:59:27 -0400
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Having just gone shopping on the net for an HP Omnibook, I see that the
numbers no longer stop at 800. There's a 900 and an "XE" and some in the
more pricey 4100 and 7100 series.  =

I used the HP 110 and Portable Plus for many years and developed a
love/hate thing for these machines. I'm developing the same relationship
with the OB XE (mushy, fragile, off-centered keyboard, flakey touch pad,
blinking screen). Otherwise a nice machine. =

But to answer your question... hop over to www.pcconnection.com and searc=
h
on Omnibook. You'll get more than enough hype to keep you reading for a d=
ay
or so.  Remember: "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is..."
.ed.

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 08:26:05 -0400
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If I understand you correctly, you have a field in a database (perhaps it=
's
called "Last Updated") which you fill it in by pressing the Fn , (Date)
key. You'd like to have the field filled in automatically. Right? =


The database apps do not have such a capability.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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An ob300 or ob425 is the closest you'll ever get to an hp200lx laptop.
the ob325 has a 386 and the ob425 has a 486.  The ob435 is claimed to
run 50% faster than an ob300 while getting 15% less battery life.

They both weigh < 3 lbs., have a 16-shade grayscale VGA screen,
full-size keyboard, 2 button pop-out mouse (a real mouse with absolute
positioning).  They both can boot from an ATA-Flashdisk giving great
battery life.  An 0b300 will run 9-12 hrs. on fully charged, new
battery.  The battery life will, of course, drop as the battery ages.
They run DOS 5/Windows 3.1.  Both are loaded in a read-only flash card.
The read-only flashcard also provides Excel and Word as well as HP?00LX
compatible Windows versions of Appt, Phone & HPCalc.  The Windows
version of HPCalc is not as fully featured as the HP?00LX version.

Also included is LapLink Remote, which can be used with the HP?00LX
compatible IR port for synchronization.

Note that there is no provision for opening .gdb files.

They have a feature called instant-on which works very much like the
HP?00LX.  It takes about 0.5 secs. to get an operational screen and it's
right where you left off last.

They use a 12VDC adapter which uses the same power connector and I've
used my HP?00LX adapter to run/charge them many times.

They have 2 PCMCIA Type II/III card slots.  One of the slots is occupied
by the read-only flashcard leaving room for 3 Type II or 2 Type II/1
Type III cards.

There are both serial and parallel ports on the back.

There is no standard floppy drive but a third-party parallel port drive
can be had.

They use a proprietary NIMh battery pack but 4 AA batteries can be used
in a pinch.

Both can be used with a PCMCIA HDD, but I recommend against it due to
drastically reduced battery life.  On the other hand, ATA FlashDisks are
expensive.  The ob300 came with a 40MB HDD which wasn't quite PCMCIA 2.0
compatible.  As such, you can't run larger PCMCIA 2.0 HDDs.  That is
unless you can track down a special hack done by ACE which provides a
PCMCIA 2.0 compatible driver. The ob425 came with a 105MB PCMCIA 2.0
drive and can accomodate larger drives.

I think that covers the basics :)

Wayne



Dave - wrote:

> OK, i know this is a bit off list....but here goes.
>
> I've been watching with interest the OB sales announcements
> here on the list.  gosh, now i wanna know more about them.
>
> So, can some out there please give me a quick and dirty
> comparison of the different models?  i know they start at 300
> and end at the ob800.
>
> keep in mind i am a 200lx user and my pentium notebook does
> more dusk gathering than ever before.  An OB could prove
> quick useful.....
>
> mucho gracias in advance,
>
> dave
>
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Subject:      Using the 200lx built in ccMail
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     I have a question about using the CCMail built into the Lx.

     Background:

     I subscribe to several listserv's, including this one and one on
     electric vehicles, both as digest.

     I save the text attachment in the Email I rx from the HPLX-L listserv
     as a .txt file onto my 200lx using the connectivity pack for reading
     at my leisure(what leisure?).

     The problem is that:
        a: most of the time I don't even rx a digest from the EV listserv,
           and:

        b: When I rx a digest, it has 30-50 attachments, each one a message
           to that list.

     I've Emailed the person who runs the list ad he says that it must be
     something in the way my server here at work receives the msg. and that
     there is no prob with the listserver.

     Question:

     1) Is there any way to transfer a ccMail msg from my email computer to
        the 200lx? and to view the message with all the attachments using
        the Built in ccMail?

     2) Is there any settings that I can change in Lotus ccMail v6 to get
        the attachments into 1 file to read as a text file, or

     3) Anything I can reference to the EV listserv that will allow them to
          send all of the digest as 1 attachment?

     My system is an Pentium, running Windoze NT 4.0 and lotus ccMAil 6.0. My
     company will be changing over to Lotus Notes soon. Will this change help?

     All help appreciated

     Joe

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 09:50:29 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
<snip of mine>
>
> The question was specifically about passing _programs_ between
> the Palm Pilot and the HP palmtop via IR.  I think my answer
> was correct in that context.  I did not say anything about
> data.  If the question was about data, then I would have
> happily answered that data passing and/or sharing could be (or
> may already be) possible.
>
> Also, the original question was not about emulators and Apples
> running DOS and the other stuff you mentioned.  I know those
> things exist and do work, so you are correct that in the very
> broad sense, my statements were not correct.
>
> It is good that you highlighted the narrow scope of my
> statements.  Thanks.
>
> Stan
>

You're welcome. IIRC the original question was about `software' though,
not `programs', that's why I thought it was worth commenting on...

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I have a stock 4meg HPLX that has 2meg on main board and 2meg
on expansion board.  The expansion board has 2 RAM chips with
empty solder pads for 2 more.

I'm interested in doing an upgrade to 6meg.  Anyone know the
specs on the chips I need?  How about a part number from
someplace like Digi-Key or JDR?

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 09:26:29 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Using the 200lx built in ccMail
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You should be able to use Remote Access to read your cc:Mailbox with your
palmtop.  Ask your Admin if Remote Access is supported.  An alternative
might to be, forward your list mail to a cc:Mail dial-up provider and use
the LX's cc:Mail program to retrieve it.

You will lose everything when your company trashes cc:Mail.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph E Buford ÝSMTP:jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM¨
>
             1) Is there any way to transfer a ccMail msg from my email
computer to
>         the 200lx? and to view the message with all the attachments using
>         the Built in ccMail?
>
>      My system is an Pentium, running Windoze NT 4.0 and lotus ccMAil 6.0.
> My
>      company will be changing over to Lotus Notes soon. Will this change
> help?
>
>      All help appreciated
>
>      Joe
>

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On Mon, 3 May 1999 00:02:17 -0400, you wrote:
>I have just finished the above, transferring it to the palmtop and
>processing all the images, it comes to over 8meg & 800 files
>and zipped it is still 5.6meg
>The question is, does anybody else want it? Would super
Yes! I have the 1995 version loaded for browsing ... would love to
have the latest ...  must keep up with the times ...

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

Morning all;
(My puta was down awhile.)

Re Dream machine LX  vs PDRs (whatever).
Okay already, What is, is....
WinCE sells, sell 'em.  but...
Can't they compromize?
Can't they have the Win CE shell and yet go down to
DOS for us REAL DOS users?
Like the Libretto.  If they only made it smaller.
Then everybody gets what they want.
(Did I miss the post that said it couldn't be done?)

yor pal al....................

>> I personally like using a CE mini-notebook sized unit when traveling
>> since what I do most is email, write, and do small spreadsheets.  I
>> like to be able to touch type with instant on, light weight, and
>long  battery life.  However, I actually would rather have an enlarged
>> 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 10:50:39 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I have a recurring file that I need to insert while using GP, is there some
way to define a key to automatically insert this file? I know that I can use
<menu><file><insert file> but I was looking for a quicker way to do it.

Jeff

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On 05-03 09:48am CDT, the following was written:

> Morning all;
> (My puta was down awhile.)

Welcome back Al!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 10:55:22 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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The author of the Windows CE DOS emulator appeared here a little while
back. Anyone have the URL of that DOS emulator? Anyone try it? Has it
been compiled for the Jornada 820 processor? I want to test out some of
our Thaddeus DOS software as we have had some requests.

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> -----Original Message-----
> The author of the Windows CE DOS emulator appeared here a little while
> back. Anyone have the URL of that DOS emulator? Anyone try it? Has it
> been compiled for the Jornada 820 processor? I want to test out some of
> our Thaddeus DOS software as we have had some requests.

Ian Dean
Author of XTCE
http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 12:24:03 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Windows CE DOS emulator
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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On Mon, 3 May 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> The author of the Windows CE DOS emulator appeared here a little while
> back. Anyone have the URL of that DOS emulator? Anyone try it? Has it
> been compiled for the Jornada 820 processor? I want to test out some of
> our Thaddeus DOS software as we have had some requests.
>

 Ive played with it on a SH3 win-ce machine was ok.. you figure youd get
more speed outta it on a 80mhz RISC processor (damn winblowz bogs
everything down!)

 As for a strong-arm port im not sure yet if it was ported? (see theres
a big problem with CE multiple target host) but im sure it would run
at and very good speed (80mhz sh3 was doing about 5mhz XT emu) figure
the win-CEpro machines will do an easy 10mhz XT emu and the strong-arm
being the best CE processor out there (yeah id say it's the best! heh)
figure 12mhz XT emu maybe ??

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 12:24:01 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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From:         "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Windows CE DOS emulator
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I have the Jornada 820 version. It works for several DOS apps. I have not
been able to get ACCis 4.0 to access the modem but all the other functions
appear to work fine. Some user have got it to run ACCis 4.0 on HP360s using
the emulator. The internal modem does not respond to standard commands. I
have sent him information and he is working on the issue.

What programs are you trying to run?

the site address is:  http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:55
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Windows CE DOS emulator
>
> The author of the Windows CE DOS emulator appeared here a little while
> back. Anyone have the URL of that DOS emulator? Anyone try it? Has it
> been compiled for the Jornada 820 processor? I want to test out some of
> our Thaddeus DOS software as we have had some requests.
>
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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 18:30:26 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> I have a recurring file that I need to insert while using GP, is there some
> way to define a key to automatically insert this file? I know that I can use
> <menu><file><insert file> but I was looking for a quicker way to do it.

You can do it with one keystroke (e.g. F2) by assigning that key a
macro. See PE.DOC.

An even easier way would be to use POST/LX instead as it can
automatically insert a signature file for you :-) (Disclaimer: I am the
author of POST/LX)

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 11:43:05 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Another nail in CE's future as far as I am concerned.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Souza, Mr Stephen ÝSMTP:ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL¨
>
> The internal modem does not respond to standard commands.
>
> Stephen Souza
>

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 11:43:39 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<What programs are you trying to run?>>

I want to test our two DOS dictionary products and see if Software
Carousel works and has a value. I also want to test the freeware and
shareware in Super Software Carousel.  I'll use PalRun as appropriate.

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 12:58:22 -0400
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              74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>
> An ob300 or ob425 is the closest you'll ever get to an hp200lx laptop.
> the ob325 has a 386 and the ob425 has a 486.  The ob435 is claimed to
> run 50% faster than an ob300 while getting 15% less battery life.

are there any other models?

and how is typing on this little guy.  easier than the 200lx,
i am sure, but how about compart to full keyboard.

It might be easier using it than an external newton keyboard
for the 200lx

>
> They both weigh < 3 lbs., have a 16-shade grayscale VGA screen,
> full-size keyboard, 2 button pop-out mouse (a real mouse with absolute
> positioning).  They both can boot from an ATA-Flashdisk giving great
> battery life.  An 0b300 will run 9-12 hrs. on fully charged, new
> battery.  The battery life will, of course, drop as the battery ages.
> They run DOS 5/Windows 3.1.  Both are loaded in a read-only flash card.
> The read-only flashcard also provides Excel and Word as well as HP?00LX
> compatible Windows versions of Appt, Phone & HPCalc.  The Windows
> version of HPCalc is not as fully featured as the HP?00LX version.

Can extra batteries be easily had?
are they 'off the shelf' and what life do you get from the
AAs when used.


>
> Note that there is no provision for opening .gdb files.

yuck.  that sucks.  can you load CPack on it?

>
> They have a feature called instant-on which works very much like the
> HP?00LX.  It takes about 0.5 secs. to get an operational screen and =
it's
> right where you left off last.
>
> They use a 12VDC adapter which uses the same power connector and I've
> used my HP?00LX adapter to run/charge them many times.
>
> They have 2 PCMCIA Type II/III card slots.  One of the slots is occupied
> by the read-only flashcard leaving room for 3 Type II or 2 Type II/1

Hmm.. what modems can you use on it?  pcmcia that is.


> There are both serial and parallel ports on the back.
>
> There is no standard floppy drive but a third-party parallel port drive
> can be had.

anyone have a cd hooked up to it?

>
> They use a proprietary NIMh battery pack but 4 AA batteries can be used
> in a pinch.
>
> Both can be used with a PCMCIA HDD, but I recommend against it due to
> drastically reduced battery life.  On the other hand, ATA FlashDisks =
are
> expensive.  The ob300 came with a 40MB HDD which wasn't quite PCMCIA =
2.0
> compatible.  As such, you can't run larger PCMCIA 2.0 HDDs.  That is
> unless you can track down a special hack done by ACE which provides a
> PCMCIA 2.0 compatible driver. The ob425 came with a 105MB PCMCIA 2.0
> drive and can accomodate larger drives.
>

what do most people run with this?  orig hdd or pcmcia flash
cards?
 seems flash would save on the battery life.  especially if
you can boot from them.  I take it that it will be easy to
load your pcmcia flash from the hp200 into it.....

any docking station like devices?

thanks
dave
>

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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Two ways:

Go to the ESP Networks (www.espmail.com) site (they take care of
palmtop.com) and call the number at the bottom of the e-mail.

Or send an e-mail to Martin Paul (who should be the mailer of palmtop.com
instructions after you register -- if you manage to do it.)

Good luck!

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection"


> Hi Philippe,
>
> >My Megahertz XJ14400 (or something like that) got that error message,
> and my
> >EXP ThinFax 1414LXM didn't.
> >The people at Palmtop.Com don't know why. All they could suggest is a
> few
> >initialization strings, to no avail. Strangely enough, connecting with
> >Datacomm works with both modems.
> >
> >Go figure...
>
>   How would I contact the people at Palmtop.com who you referred to
> above? It would be useful to be able to ask them directly about the
> problem and to see if they might have any suggestions. I would hope that
> they would know of others who have successfully connected with the same
> kind of modem that I've got.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 17:56:39 +0000
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              Kat Deutscher <katd@CWIX.COM>
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AOL's Pocket Press newsletter compares the two in what
appears to be an objective way.  I don't own both.

I would be happy to forward the newsletter to anyone
who does not subscribe, or have AOL access.  (The
newsletter encourages us to forward it to anyone
interested in receiving it.)

~20k


Kat
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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 14:51:01 -0400
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I've crossed paths with someone that has some new in the box HP200 AC
adapters (F 1011A).  The price depends on how many I buy and right now I'm
not sure how many he has to sell.  I should be able to get them to you for
$20 or less plus shipping.  If anyone is interested please drop me a line
privately.  ( I know - this isn't as good as the price Service Merchandise
closed them out at, but......  :-(  )  I get the list via digest form so
replying back to the list will only slow my answer.  Interesting trades
considered.  (Software Carousel, Quicken connect, ?  Don't need any modems,
got too many now.)
Later,
bob

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 12:50:48 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Wow!  wwwwlx & going postal

Jeff
You've got both going on the LX?
Presuamably in two diff DIRs.
On the same LX.

Which one do you prefer?
Which one could you do without?

yor pal al...........................

>As a user of both WWW/LX and Goin' Postal, I can honestly say that
>Steve has implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's
> the ability  to receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the
LX.

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Hi! Spring cleaning, I came across some old DOS sofware I bought a little
while ago. Up for grabs, buyer pays shipping. All packages are complete with
manuals and registration cards (except where noted). If you think the price
is too high, go ahead and make an offer. Please e-mail me privately.

DBase III plus
3 1/2" floppies
Good for PC XT DOS 2.0 to 3.3 256K RAM to 384K RAM
10$

Silverado Database for Lotus 1-2-3 Add-In
5 1/4" floppies
Good for IBM PC XT Dos 2.0+ 512K RAM
Good for Lotus 1-2-3 2.0 or 2.01
10$

Lotus 1-2-3 Release 3.1+
5 1/4" floppies
Good for IBM PC AT DOS 3.0+ 1 MB RAM CGA and 5MB HD
10$

Lotus 1-2-3 Release 3.1
5 1/4" floppies
Good for IBM PC AT DOS 3.0+ 1 MB RAM CGA and 5MB HD
10$

Lotus 1-2-3 Release 3
5 1/4" floppies
10$

Lotus 1-2-3 Release 3.1
5 1/4" floppies
Missing Reference Manual
5$

QDOS II Hard Driver Manager
5 1/4" floppies
5$

PC Kwik Powerpack (Ram Disk, Print Spooler, Screen Accelerator, Keyboard
Accelerator, Memory Cacher)
5 1/4" floppies
Good for IBM PC XT DOS 2.0 to 4.0 64K RAM +
5$

Central Point PC Tools 6.0
3 1/2" floppies
Good for IBM PC XT DOS 3.0+ 512K RAM
10$

Quicklink II by Smith Micro
Good for DOS 3.3+ CGA and Class 1-2 fax/modem
5$

Borland DBase IV manuals ONLY
- Getting Started
- Using DBase IV
- Language Reference
- Programming DBase IV

Compaq MS DOS 4
3 1/2" floppies
10$

Flow Charting by Patton & Patton
3 1/2" and 5 1/4" floppies
Good for IBM PC XT Dos 2.11 512K RAM CGA with 1.5MB HD
10$

Bitcom 3.5 by Evercomm
5 1/4 floppies
5$

Carbon Copy LAN / Host / Guest
5 1/4" and 3 1/2" floppies
5$

Menuworks Advanced (Menu design, Disk management)
5 1/4" and 3 1/2" floppies
Good for IBM PC XT DOS 2.0+ 512K RAM
10$

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 14:36:19 -0500
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On 05-03 12:50pm CDT, the following was written:

> Jeff
> You've got both going on the LX?
> Presuamably in two diff DIRs.
> On the same LX.

Yup.

> Which one do you prefer?
> Which one could you do without?

On the grounds that it might incriminate or segregate me, I don't think I'll
answer that one <g>. They are both good packages and both have their strong
points and weak points.......

Jeff

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From:         Stan Freifeld <Optionman@PRODIGY.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Palm vs. HP200lx
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Kat Deutscher wrote:
>
> AOL's Pocket Press newsletter compares the two in what
> appears to be an objective way.  I don't own both.
>
> I would be happy to forward the newsletter to anyone
> who does not subscribe, or have AOL access.  (The
> newsletter encourages us to forward it to anyone
> interested in receiving it.)
>
> ~20k
>
> Kat
> --
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>
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Dear Kat, I am not an AOL member, but would appreciate seeing the
comparison of the 2 machines,  Thank you,  Stan
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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 15:03:12 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Omnibook questions

> Having just gone shopping on the net for an HP Omnibook, I see that the
> numbers no longer stop at 800. There's a 900 and an "XE" and some in the
> more pricey 4100 and 7100 series.
> I used the HP 110 and Portable Plus for many years and developed a
> love/hate thing for these machines. I'm developing the same relationship
> with the OB XE (mushy, fragile, off-centered keyboard, flakey touch pad,
> blinking screen). Otherwise a nice machine.
> But to answer your question... hop over to www.pcconnection.com and search
> on Omnibook. You'll get more than enough hype to keep you reading for a day
> or so.  Remember: "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is..."
> .ed.


300-800 where the only real omnibooks, the 900 us just another
laptop. The numbers over 1000 are not even made by HP, just sold by
them, and they are pretty generic laptop machines.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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> From- "Goldsmith, George" <George.Goldsmith@West.Boeing.com>
> To- "'HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU'" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Subject- Re: The CIA World Fact Book 1998
> Date- Mon, 3 May 1999 06:45:12 -0700
>
>
> David Lawrence recently wrote:
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> I have just finished the above, transferring it to the palmtop and
> processing all the images, it comes to over 8meg & 800 files
> and zipped it is still 5.6meg
>
> The question is, does anybody else want it?
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> I'd be interested in a copy.
>
> George Goldsmith
> Diamond Bar, CA (USA)
> george.nospam.goldsmith@boeing.com
> Remove ¬¬¬¬¬¬
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I will take the Central Point PC Tools and the Compaq Dos 4.0 if you
will ship them both for a total of $20.00.

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

Fryday wrote:
>
> Hi! Spring cleaning, I came across some old DOS sofware I bought a little
> while ago. Up for grabs, buyer pays shipping. All packages are complete with
> manuals and registration cards (except where noted). If you think the price
> is too high, go ahead and make an offer. Please e-mail me privately.
>
> Central Point PC Tools 6.0
> 3 1/2" floppies
> Good for IBM PC XT DOS 3.0+ 512K RAM
> 10$

> Compaq MS DOS 4
> 3 1/2" floppies
> 10$
>
> Philippe :-)
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Paulo;
Will OPEN do a group of databases?
eg: all .FDB or .MDB?
as is currently done with .GDB and .PDB.

yor pal al...........



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> An even easier way would be to use POST/LX instead as it can
> automatically insert a signature file for you :-) (Disclaimer: I am the
> author of POST/LX)

Just to clarify, GP also can automatically insert a signature.  Jeff
is messing with PGP currently, and the way the external PGP hook works
(PGPGP.EXE) it only can act on the message body.  GP appends the signature
after the message body, thus outside the PGP area.

I *could* fill the signature into the message body prior to invoking the
editor, but that would get really annoying if your editor of choice sticks
you at the end of the file all the time (like RED.COM does).  Since PGP
isn't in great demand (at least from GP users), I chose to limit it's
effect on GP itself as much as possible. (V2 was totally unaware when PGP
was used, V3 needed some awareness due to the ISO<->Codepage conversion).

I can only assume the worst from Jeff.  Seeing how he got his "most
circles in a rectangle" calculation and now is sending secret messages I
can only assume that Alabama has become a nuclear power and Jeff is now
figuring blast areas... <grin>  Of course, since he's a fine upstanding
member of law enforcement, he'll only take out the bad guys. <bigger grin>

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 08:26 AM 3/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>If I understand you correctly, you have a field in a database (perhaps it's
>called "Last Updated") which you fill it in by pressing the Fn , (Date)
>key. You'd like to have the field filled in automatically. Right?
>
>The database apps do not have such a capability.

Correct on the requested function Ed. Also I would like to have the
capability to know when a record was last accessed.(looked at)

Can anyone conceive of a way to do this?

My reason is that my contact database has redundant records and I would like
to purge less used/older records to a zipped.GDB after a "learning" period.
Could a tsr do this?

Any interest in this concept?

Russell

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While browsing I came upon this site.


http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~cfs/cpm/pcdos.html

PC-DOS files

LANGUAGES

PASCAL MT+ v3.3 : 324K Here si PASCAL MT+ version
3.3 for MS-DOS.

CB-86 v2.0 : 96K Here is the CB-86 v2.0 BASIC
compiler for PC-DOS.

CB-86 v2.1 : 129K And this is the CB-86 v2.1 BASIC
compiler for PC-DOS.

ASSEMBLER TOOLS : 71K RASM-86, SID-86, etc for
PC-DOS.

PL/I-DOS : 145K PL/I for PC-DOS.

PROGRAMMERS UTILITIES for PL/I : 91K Here are some
sample programs, and utilities for
PL/I for PC-DOS.

PL/I Library for DOS: 139K *** UPDATED 01/10/99
*** This is the standard PL/I runtime
library that has been disassembled, and patched to
handle DOS files, and get the end-of-file correct.




APPLICATIONS

DISPLAY MANAGER : 163K Digital Research DISPLAY
MANAGER for PC-DOS.

DRDRAW : 124K DRDRAW for PC-DOS.

DOS GSX LIBS : 129K Graphics libs for GSX on
PC-DOS.

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While I was browsing recently, I found the following
statement (in the docs attached to an abandonware version of
Contra, an ancient PC game):

<<Due to the National Information Infrastructure Copyright Act
of 1995, (NIIC), Software in which the copyright is older
than two years AND is no longer sold on the market, has been
deemed available free to the public, due to the seemingly
"apparent uselessness of outdated technology" as stated in
the NIIC.>>

This is presumably a piece of US legislation, so do any
experts know any more about this? If this is true, it would
certainly seem to suggest that, for US citizens at least,
the making available and use of abandonware (or at least all
the software which falls under the law's specifications) is
100% legal - which obviously could be very interesting for
us LX users who want to use old DOS software.

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Dave,
        I've got a 425 for sale if you start looking to buy. I aslo have a 600 for
sale.  There are 430 and 530 models.  These models do not have the built in
applications but are more compatable with "normal" software and widows.
After the 530, you have the 600 and 800 models.  These are the last of the
true Omnibooks and have color screens.  The 530 and color models can not
use AA batteries although batteries seem to be avialable for all models.

The 430+ models have docking stations available if you can find them.  All
models share the same keyboard which is very easy to type with and is
standard.

I've used a scsi CD rom with most models.  The pcmcia connection is a
little less than standard.  Some pcmcia cards will work and some are
trouble.  Most modems do work.

The b/w models are great for working outside, just like the 200.

Hope this answers some of your questions.  If you need more information,
I'll try and help.

Ron Beckley



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From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Re: Omnibook questions
Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 12:58 PM

>
> An ob300 or ob425 is the closest you'll ever get to an hp200lx laptop.
> the ob325 has a 386 and the ob425 has a 486.  The ob435 is claimed to
> run 50% faster than an ob300 while getting 15% less battery life.

are there any other models?

and how is typing on this little guy.  easier than the 200lx,
i am sure, but how about compart to full keyboard.

It might be easier using it than an external newton keyboard
for the 200lx

>
> They both weigh < 3 lbs., have a 16-shade grayscale VGA screen,
> full-size keyboard, 2 button pop-out mouse (a real mouse with absolute
> positioning).  They both can boot from an ATA-Flashdisk giving great
> battery life.  An 0b300 will run 9-12 hrs. on fully charged, new
> battery.  The battery life will, of course, drop as the battery ages.
> They run DOS 5/Windows 3.1.  Both are loaded in a read-only flash card.
> The read-only flashcard also provides Excel and Word as well as HP?00LX
> compatible Windows versions of Appt, Phone & HPCalc.  The Windows
> version of HPCalc is not as fully featured as the HP?00LX version.

Can extra batteries be easily had?
are they 'off the shelf' and what life do you get from the
AAs when used.


>
> Note that there is no provision for opening .gdb files.

yuck.  that sucks.  can you load CPack on it?

>
> They have a feature called instant-on which works very much like the
> HP?00LX.  It takes about 0.5 secs. to get an operational screen and it's
> right where you left off last.
>
> They use a 12VDC adapter which uses the same power connector and I've
> used my HP?00LX adapter to run/charge them many times.
>
> They have 2 PCMCIA Type II/III card slots.  One of the slots is occupied
> by the read-only flashcard leaving room for 3 Type II or 2 Type II/1

Hmm.. what modems can you use on it?  pcmcia that is.


> There are both serial and parallel ports on the back.
>
> There is no standard floppy drive but a third-party parallel port drive
> can be had.

anyone have a cd hooked up to it?

>
> They use a proprietary NIMh battery pack but 4 AA batteries can be used
> in a pinch.
>
> Both can be used with a PCMCIA HDD, but I recommend against it due to
> drastically reduced battery life.  On the other hand, ATA FlashDisks are
> expensive.  The ob300 came with a 40MB HDD which wasn't quite PCMCIA 2.0
> compatible.  As such, you can't run larger PCMCIA 2.0 HDDs.  That is
> unless you can track down a special hack done by ACE which provides a
> PCMCIA 2.0 compatible driver. The ob425 came with a 105MB PCMCIA 2.0
> drive and can accomodate larger drives.
>

what do most people run with this?  orig hdd or pcmcia flash
cards?
 seems flash would save on the battery life.  especially if
you can boot from them.  I take it that it will be easy to
load your pcmcia flash from the hp200 into it.....

any docking station like devices?

thanks
dave
>

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In a message dated 5/3/1999 08:17:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes:

> <<Due to the National Information Infrastructure Copyright Act
>  of 1995, (NIIC), Software in which the copyright is older
>  than two years AND is no longer sold on the market, has been
>  deemed available free to the public, due to the seemingly
>  "apparent uselessness of outdated technology" as stated in
>  the NIIC.>>

Posted on the Software Publishers Association web page,

          http://www.spa.org/piracy/Q&A.htm

I found the following questions & answers, which are directly related to this
oft-repeated subject.  I'm not a member, and understand that they do have a
point of view.

Begin quoted material:

I have some old software that I do not use anymore. I want to give it away.
What do I need to do? Do I need special permission?
It depends on what is meant by "old software". If, for example, you wish to
give away old software that has been upgraded, the answer is generally no.
Upgrade licenses supplant the license of the original, voiding the original
license thereby making the original version legally unusable. On the other
hand, if you bought a new, full copy of a higher version of the software,
license permitting, you could sell or give away the older version.

I would like to use a software program, but the company has gone out of
business. Is it okay for me to make a copy since they are not making any more
copies of this software for purchase?
Copyright may be valid for 75 years or more, so they may continue to subsist
long after a company has gone out of business. The copyrights may even have
been transferred or assigned to someone else. To copy a software program, you
need express permission from the copyright holder. The U.S. Copyright Office
may be helpful in finding the current copyright holder to write for
permission to copy the product.

End copied material.

Their view (which I believe to be correct) is strongly anti-abandonware.  But
I'm not a lawyer, and could be wrong.

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On 05-03 04:23pm CDT, the following was written:

> Just to clarify, GP also can automatically insert a signature.  Jeff
> is messing with PGP currently, and the way the external PGP hook works
> (PGPGP.EXE) it only can act on the message body.  GP appends the signature
> after the message body, thus outside the PGP area.

This is true, GP can automatically insert the signature file.

> I can only assume the worst from Jeff.  Seeing how he got his "most
> circles in a rectangle" calculation and now is sending secret messages I
> can only assume that Alabama has become a nuclear power and Jeff is now
> figuring blast areas... <grin>  Of course, since he's a fine upstanding
> member of law enforcement, he'll only take out the bad guys. <bigger grin>

Shh..... don't tell anyone, I almost have the 'device' built <g>!

73 Jeff

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On 05-03 12:30pm CDT, the following was written:

> You can do it with one keystroke (e.g. F2) by assigning that key a
> macro. See PE.DOC.

Can anyone share the keycode for F2 with me? I'm gonna give it a shot<g>!

Jeff

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Hal - I've used an HP95, 100 and 200 and hate to see the DOS machines go
-- I hate Windows...but it looks like sometime in the future I'm going
to have to replace my HP200LX. Have you put out a review of the Jordana
series in the Palmtop Paper? If so which issue? And I'd like your
comments on the 680.

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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> Subject: Windows CE DOS emulator
> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:55:22 -0500
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>
> The author of the Windows CE DOS emulator appeared here a little while
> back. Anyone have the URL of that DOS emulator? Anyone try it? Has it
> been compiled for the Jornada 820 processor? I want to test out some of
> our Thaddeus DOS software as we have had some requests.

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 22:14:33 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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The OB800CT is like a modern day Pentium 166MMX, big hard drive and as large
of a 10.4" TFT screen. Battery life is a miserable about 2 hours.

I have typed for years and cannot stand the wrist wrest type touchpad laptops.

If you like windows, it runs Win95 just great, could replace a desktop in my
opinion unless one has to keep up with technology. Hard drive is slower than a
desktop equivalent, but speed otherwise performs like a typical P166MMX.

It came with 16M RAM, 4G HD,  docking station, external 8x CDROM and FD. Got
80MB RAM total. I takes a couple of seconds to come up or shut down with its
instant on-that is sure nice. The docking station has room for one ISA or PCI
card. I installed a PCI pnp network card. With a bit of practice, it hot docks
smoothly (don't have to reboot to get on the network). The screen is useless
in daylight

I think HP missed the boat by discontinuing them. Even though I don't have
one, I think the OB300 or OB425 is legacy which should continue--long battery
life, speed, etc. See my letter on the "universal" computer.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Dave - wrote:

> OK, i know this is a bit off list....but here goes.
>
> I've been watching with interest the OB sales announcements
> here on the list.  gosh, now i wanna know more about them.
>
> So, can some out there please give me a quick and dirty
> comparison of the different models?  i know they start at 300
> and end at the ob800.
>
> keep in mind i am a 200lx user and my pentium notebook does
> more dusk gathering than ever before.  An OB could prove
> quick useful.....
>
> mucho gracias in advance,
>
> dave
>
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I couldn t help but take off on the "OmniBook question" letter from HPLX
Mailing List.

Here is an idea to fill a void in the portable computer industry. Glitz and
blitz caused the loss of the real OmniBooks. A  universal  computer would give
HP with a stable and consistent product much like the 200CD oscillator. The
demand would be at least moderate. Its potential of market share may be
surprising. Forget about yearly changes. The HP200LX has shown a machine that
many can live with over the years. The universal computer comes in three
flavors.

1. HP200LX   HP please don t mess it up.

2. OmniBook LT   HP680LX size of the OmniBook Classic w/slower processor

3. OmniBook Classic. It would be the *** universal *** machine for the past 20
years and for the next 20 years. The description is simple.

OmniBook Classic
  * OmniBook 300-800 in size
  * Rugged for field use
  * X86 processor (fast w/long battery life)
  * FLASH-MSDOS 6.22/WFW31/Off4.3 or W95 or WCE or Linux   you load
  * 16-64+MB RAM
  * Powered by AA cells   no specialized batteries
  * PCMCIA Type II/III slots
  * Serial/parallel
  * SoundBlaster compatible
  * Color NON-BACKLIT REFLECTIVE/BACKLIT display *
  * ROM with software like HP200LX
  * IR capable
  * HP200LX wish list items
  * $$cheap$$

* A thin silvered mylar reflector would allow both backlit and non-backlit
operation, whichever the user desired for indoor/outdoor use. Switch off
backlight to increase battery life by hours.

Not exactly the state of the art, but meant to be as much universal as
possible. Accessories will round out the customization/standalonishness--the
ideal machine that will not be obsolete in 6 months. There are only two
machines that fit the universal/long-lived description--the HP95/100/200 and
the Tandy 100/120. R&D is done!! Packaging is all that remains.

Notes

Student use -- here is a large potential
Machine like HP200LX
Real portability
Field missionaries
Field data taking
Backlight annoying in groups/dim rooms
Silent keyboard (unoffensive)

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 00:05:04 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I would like to take a minute to encourage everybody to that uses their LX
to telnet to give Rod Whitby's LXTELNET a try. I just discovered it the
other day and I am absolutely thrilled with it. I had previously been using
MiniTelnet (MT), but it had extremely slow screen updates and did not have
the ability to download files to the LX. LXTELNET, on the other hand, is
extremely fast, has a built in ftp server so you can ftp back to the palmtop
and transfer files. It offers the ability to run multiple telnet sessions
simultaneously and is really a slick piece of software. It runs quite nicely
with the packet driver installed by Goin' Postal and would work equally well
with the EPPPD packet driver without Goin' Postal. It's available from Rod's
web page http://lxtcp.hplx.net and the best thing about it is that it won't
cost you a dime! It's in the package of LXTCP tools along with LXNNTP and
LXPOP. To be such a small piece of software, it's _extremely_ powerful!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 3 May 1999 22:14:30 -0700
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              "Land, Ken" <ken.land@INTEL.COM>
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Kat,

Please forward the newsletter.  I am not an AOL subscriber.

Thanks,
Ken Land

-----Original Message-----
From: Kat Deutscher Ýmailto:katd@CWIX.COM¨
Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 12:57 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Palm vs. HP200lx


AOL's Pocket Press newsletter compares the two in what
appears to be an objective way.  I don't own both.

I would be happy to forward the newsletter to anyone
who does not subscribe, or have AOL access.  (The
newsletter encourages us to forward it to anyone
interested in receiving it.)

~20k


Kat
--
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I'm not sure I saved the original message so I'd just like to thank
whoever posted about the Case-Tech HP Leather cases.

Mine arrived today and it is indeed well-made.  Hard, formed leather.

I got the swivel buckle model which allows it to rotate or pivot while
on the belt allowing one to sit.  The swivel is an interesting feature
that allows the case to be disengaged from the beltloop but has a very
secure "locking" mechanism.

I did have them modify it slightly.  I had them add depth (length) so
that 2-AA lithium cells can be dropped down to the bottom of the case
(as spares) and still accommodate the HP.  I think I would have one more
modification done - just a smidge more room to allow the xjack modem to
slide down in the case or possibly a small outside pocket to accommodate
it.  The guy I spoke with on the phone was helpful and very friendly.

I'm not sure what it ultimately cost me (g) as the billing was for
$58.00 but if that is Canadian, the price would be about 30% less.

Some url's for those whose interest has been stirred.  The url's should
be all one line:

http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/shop-indy.mhtml?
shop=casetech&cart=912129006-15758.db&tstamp=
912129006&category=4&code=Swivel

http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/shop-indy.mhtml?
shop=casetech&cart=912129006-15758.db&tstamp=
912129006&category=4&code=207-HP200LX&subcat=44

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 08:19:01 +0200
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Comments: To: hobchi@JUNO.COM
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Do you mean that you have database files called .FDB or .MDB that you
want to open with the built-in database?

In that case the answer is no, open does not do it. It only knows about
the .GDB and .PDB extensions.

Paulo Custodio

Yor Pal Al wrote:
>
> Paulo;
> Will OPEN do a group of databases?
> eg: all .FDB or .MDB?
> as is currently done with .GDB and .PDB.

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 12:08:36 +0200
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Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Jeff,

> with the EPPPD packet driver without Goin' Postal. It's available from =
Rod's
> web page http://lxtcp.hplx.net and the best thing about it is that it =
won't
> cost you a dime! It's in the package of LXTCP tools along with LXNNTP =
and
> LXPOP. To be such a small piece of software, it's _extremely_ powerful!

This is the content of LXTCP file, which I did download today from the
above mentioned web page.

    Volume in drive C has no label
    Directory of C:\LXTCP

   .            <DIR>     05-04-99   9:55a
   ..           <DIR>     05-04-99   9:55a
   COPYING          18321 06-30-98   8:36p
   LXFTP    DOC      3880 12-21-98   1:04p
   LXFTP    EXE     74124 12-21-98   1:25p
   LXNNTP   DOC      6897 12-21-98   1:03p
   LXNNTP   EXE     61820 12-21-98   1:06p
   LXPOP    DOC      7087 12-21-98   1:01p
   LXPOP    EXE     61682 12-21-98   1:06p
   LXTCP    DOC      5683 12-21-98   1:05p
   PING     EXE     35226 12-21-98   9:35a
   TCPINFO  EXE     36014 12-21-98   9:36a
   WATTCP   DOC     31070 10-06-98  10:26p
          13 file(s)     341804 bytes
                        3152896 bytes free

Unfortunately I cannot find LXTELNET as a separate program.

Any idea?

Regards

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 06:57:58 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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The TSR, or whatever would have to keep track of the records that have be=
en
modified. I suppose a TSR could grab the contents of a record when it was=

opened and compare it with the version available when you switched to
another record. It could leave a mark or date in "Last updated field." I'=
m
not up to this task right now. Someone else can try playing with the idea=
. =

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 16:42:39 +0200
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Hello Pal Al,

I have understood that you open a file named .FDB with the built-in
database application. Open does not do it currently, but it could do
with a very small change.

The problem is that I don't know if this change is relevant to more
people - hence the copy to HPLX-L.


The code is written in C, and compiled with PAL. The only change needed
is to dupplicate the ".GDB" line in the data structure that governs how
open opens, and replace ".GDB" by ".FDB" in the copied line. This can be
done at will for other extensions - just see how both ".TXT" and ".DOC"
are supported.

(well, you cannot write one entry in the table for each and any of *all*
the 46656  extensions - considering all the possibilities of 26 letters
and 10 digits, and excluding the ones like ".%$!")

Regards,
Paulo

hobchi@juno.com wrote:
>
> Morning Paulo;
> Yes, I have groups of database files called
> .FDBs, .LDBs, and .MDBs that I want to indicate
> (highlight) then select the one I want to
> open as with the current .GDB or .PDB
> >
> >In that case the answer is no, open does
> not do it. It only knows about the .GDB and
> .PDB extensions.
>
> Can it be tweeked to insert the extensions a
> user wants?  Maybe put in a table of available
> extensions, including .NDBs  Big job?
>
> BTW: what pgmng lang is the LX SysApp written in?
>
> Best regards,
> yor pal al.................
>
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 05:01:14 -0700
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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Dave,

I currently have an ob300, ob425, ob800cs, and an ob800ct on the way.
I have had in the past and ob530, and an ob600.

The keyboards *are* all full-size.  But have been variable in terms of feel.
The only one I didn't like was the ob600 keyboard.  It tended to stick if you
didn't press directly vertical to the key.  My typing rhythm was often broken
by having to go back and retype a key that had stuck.

Someone offered an ob425 to you.  Buy it!  You won't be sorry.  If you don't
like it, I'll take it off your hands and you won't be out one red cent.

In addition to the machines listed above, I have an HP Pavilion 8140 and two
HP200LXen.  Here's how I use them:

HP Pavilion 8140 - This is my desktop machine (typing on it now.)  It's my
email/internet/game/hobby machine.  It's filled to capacity with cards, disks,
and RAM.

ob425 - This is my main laptop.  I use it like a paper notebook.  I keep notes
from work, my schedule, phonebook, and checkbook on it.  It's light, has great
battery life, a full-size keyboard.  Most people at work who tote laptops have
a shoulder bag with extra batteries, a power supply and who knows what else.
The laptops tend to weigh in at 6-8 lb.  They tell me how great they are with
big color screens, big disks, CD-ROM drives and all while they hunt for an
outlet and look for a place to put their luggage and wait for the thing to
boot.  I, carrying only my 0b425 and pencil, smugly open my ob425 and hit the
on switch and wait for the meeting to start.

HP200LX 2X8MB - This serves as an adjunct to ob425 as well as hosting a few
things on its own.  I keep it synchronized with the ob425.  I keep it in a
fanny pack and have it with me all the time.  It has a copy of my text files,
schedule, phonebook, and checkbook.  I use MKS Toolkit (UNIX utilities) and
Intellilink to synchronize the two via the IR ports.  I also use the notes db
for various notes and Gdb for things like my CD collection.

ob800ct - This is kinda like a copy of my desktop machine, but without the
games and hobby stuff.  I use it for things like Office 97 which won't run on
the ob425.  It mostly sits snugly in my Targa laptop backpack which I carry
back and forth to work.  It also runs Linux and has copies of file systems
that represent work I've done at various jobs (I'm a UNIX Systems
Administrator.)

ob800cs - will run Linux and become my web-site.

ob300 - backup to my ob425 in case it gets lost, stolen or stepped on.

HP200LX 2MB - backup to my HP200LX 8MB2X.

Stolen: ob600cs, HP200LX 8MB2X, HP200LX 2MB (all in one fell swoop.)

Wayne

Dave - wrote:

>
> are there any other models?
>
> and how is typing on this little guy.  easier than the 200lx,
> i am sure, but how about compart to full keyboard.
>
> It might be easier using it than an external newton keyboard
> for the 200lx

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 08:23:04 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Omnibook questions

Bob Meyer writes:
>
> I have typed for years and cannot stand the wrist wrest type
> touchpad laptops.                                 ¬¬¬¬¬

Freudian slip?  :)

Ted


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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 11:17:42 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From: Bob Graham
<<Hal - I've used an HP95, 100 and 200 and hate to see the DOS machines
go
-- I hate Windows...but it looks like sometime in the future I'm going
to have to replace my HP200LX. Have you put out a review of the Jordana
series in the Palmtop Paper? If so which issue? And I'd like your
comments on the 680.>>

Bob,
We review them in Handheld PC Magazine J/F and upcoming July/August
(http://www.hpcmag.com). I will probably write about them in the
July/Aug Palmtop Paper (http://www.palmtoppaper.com).

The short answer to your question is that I use an upgraded 200LX as my
main palmtop.

The longer answer is that Windows CE machines are getting nicer.  The
680 is not too much bigger than the 200LX, has a great keyboard, and a
number of other things going for it.  However, I strongly dislike the
"PC Companion" philosophy of Windows CE, although HP does include some
software which lets your read Word and Excel in native format on the CE
machine. I don't really like Windows CE or its limited applications very
much.

I especially don't like that for the most part I can't simply copy files
to a PC Card to transfer them. I really dislike Windows CE Services 2.2,
which syncs and allows file transfer/translation via the serial port,
although I understand it's much better than before. It screws with my
dial up connection.

At the same time, for PC users with moderate need for a handheld, I
might well recommend a Windows CE machine. For existing 200LX users who
like built in apps and/or DOS capability, I would recommend they think
hard before switching.

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 12:34:27 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Wayne Thompson wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I currently have an ob300, ob425, ob800cs, and an ob800ct on the way.
> I have had in the past and ob530, and an ob600.
>

Did you ever wonder if you were ob(sessed)? (<g>)

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 12:34:22 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 anyone run linux off a OB300 thru 430 series ??

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 18:32:06 +0000
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From:         "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
Subject:      Communications on HP200 LX
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Hello,

 my name is Francisco I. Campoy. I am a student of the
Telecommunication Engineer University of the UPM (Politechnical
University of Madrid). Currently, i am developing my end of career
project. I am using the HP200 LX palmtop inside a telemedicine
project. My question is related to the communication between the
palmtop and a conventional PC.

Nowadays, that communication run, using a modem, through the phone
line. I was thinking on implementating a new communication kit
(module) using the TCP/IP protocol. So, i use the serial port and the
communication (via phone) through a serial protocol like PPP.
 That kit would be included inside the global application (written in
C code). I'd like to know if WatTCP could to help me to achieve my
task. What other serial TCP/IP protocol would be appropiated ??

 Thanks for your attention,

____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

Tel  +34 91 5495700   Ext 332
Fax  +34 91 3366828
e-mail:  fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
____________________________________________

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 09:46:04 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> While trying to save a edited file in MemoExpress it displays what I think
> is a warning box. But its in Japanese. So if you can read Japanese
> please visit my site and tell me what that warning box says.
>
> The screen shot is under "Help Needed".

Thanks to Aguze118, I found out what that warning box said.

It said:

"The trial period has expired" or something to that effect.


Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 12:00:33 +0200
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> The longer answer is that Windows CE machines are getting nicer.  The
> 680 is not too much bigger than the 200LX, has a great keyboard, and a
> number of other things going for it.  However, I strongly dislike the
> "PC Companion" philosophy of Windows CE, although HP does include some
> software which lets your read Word and Excel in native format on the CE
> machine. I don't really like Windows CE or its limited applications very
> much.

The 680 looked pretty good except for the length--over 7 inches
and the thickness--1.5. The battery life isn't that good--about 7
hours. It is definately no replacement for the 200LX--it won't even
fit in my shirt pocket. Plus the fact it has no numeric keypad. It is
really tough to see it as a 200LX replacement even with the color
and XTCE. Granted the 200LX isn't perfect but it beats the Journada
series hands down<g>.

John

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 13:07:41 -0400
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From:         Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
Subject:      Why REplace 200LX
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 instead of looking to replace my 200LX (which i have done already) with
another machine why not add too it ?? I've had a winCE unit they are nice
if you have the CASH to spend on the top of the line unit and really dont
care that your unit might not be able to be upgraded to the new OS within
what the next 6 months.

 currently im looking at PalmPilot Pro/3 models since they are around $150
now and to write interfacing apps for comm between my 200LX maybe even a
cool HPC winCE machine since they seem they are in a class all there own
when comparing them to the PPC machine (WinCE)

 i figure the only way i'll give up my 200LX is if there is a nice palmtop
that runs LINUX/UNIX or can really make me go wow! if anything id suggest
to all check out the NEW psion 5mx comming out this year it still runs
on AA batterys (no Nicad here) gets 20 hours use, can emu a XT machine
(speed unknown yet) supports JAVA and it's EPOC OS (this is full java
not just java script)

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 17:30:09 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Communications on HP200 LX
Comments: To: "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
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1999-05-04-18:32:06 Francisco I. Campoy Blasco:
> Nowadays, that communication run, using a modem, through the phone line. I
> was thinking on implementating a new communication kit (module) using the
> TCP/IP protocol. So, i use the serial port and the communication (via phone)
> through a serial protocol like PPP. That kit would be included inside the
> global application (written in C code). I'd like to know if WatTCP could
> to help me to achieve my task. What other serial TCP/IP protocol would be
> appropiated ??

You should probably take a good look at LXTCP, available from
<URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net/>; it's some pretty well-respected TCP/IP
software. You should be able to use it to develop your own TCP/IP-based apps
for the LX.

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 08:30:23 +0100
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Is there an index of the contents of all Palmtop Paper magazines kept
anywhere.

I have now built up several years of copies and find it difficult to track
down articles when I need them. It seems like this kind of information
should be around somewhere. Had a look around the www.palmtoppaper.com site
and found nothing.

Ed & Hal, can you help here?

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On Tue, 4 May 1999, Laurence Harvey wrote:

> Is there an index of the contents of all Palmtop Paper magazines kept
> anywhere.

The CD Infobases are searchable and include all the Palmtop Paper issues
through Nov/Dec 1998 (well, the 1999 one does, anyway).  Highly
recommended.

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It seems that I have started answering to only the easy ones...  :)

The Palmtop Paper CD _IS_ the index to all the Palmtop Papers, as well as
having all of them in text.  I have just upgraded to the '99 CD and contains
all of the contents of all the PTP's from day one to release. (1995 - 1998?)
I highly recommend Thaddeus's Palmtop Paper CD!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurence Harvey ÝSMTP:laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK¨
>
> Is there an index of the contents of all Palmtop Paper magazines kept
> anywhere.
>
> Laurence Harvey
>

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 12:49:17 -0500
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Hi Laurence,

<<Is there an index of the contents of all Palmtop Paper magazines kept
anywhere.

I have now built up several years of copies and find it difficult to
track
down articles when I need them. It seems like this kind of information
should be around somewhere.>>

Actually, you just described my motivation for creating the HP Palmtop
Paper CD Infobase. It contains a table of contents and a key word search
facility.

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 11:50:09 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Palm vs. HP200LX

Hi Kat,

> AOL's Pocket Press newsletter compares the two in what
> appears to be an objective way.  I don't own both.
>
> I would be happy to forward the newsletter to anyone
> who does not subscribe, or have AOL access.  (The
> newsletter encourages us to forward it to anyone
> interested in receiving it.)

  I'd really like a copy of that article too. Thanks, Kat. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 13:32:32 -0400
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

Hi Philippe,

>Two ways:
>
>Go to the ESP Networks (www.espmail.com) site (they take care of
>palmtop.com) and call the number at the bottom of the e-mail.

  Thanks for that suggestion. I'll go check on that right away. I wrote
to the support email address but haven't yet gotten a response. It could
be because I'm not a paying member... I don't know.

>Or send an e-mail to Martin Paul (who should be the mailer of
palmtop.com
>instructions after you register -- if you manage to do it.)

  Actually, when/if I ever do manage to get their standard instruction
letter, I wouldn't need this kind of help anymore, anyway. ;-) If you
still have that instruction letter on your hard drive yet and could find
it, I'd appreciate it if you could extract his personal email address fro
it and send it to me.

Now for another project update:

I know that internet email access and even text based web access (like
Lynx) can still be gotten from the text based side of the Delphi online
service, but I recently heard that it now goes for a flat rate of just
$35/yr. If that turns out to be true, I'll then inquire about local
access numbers, whether their front end DOS software will run on my
HP200LX, and if their software will support my modem.

I know that many still connect to Compuserve with their HP200LX's, but
from what I understand, Compuserve is no longer offering text based
access to new accts.

I also know that AOL's old DOS software offers access too, but I've gone
that route before with the Magic Cap interface and got very poor results.
I continuously got repeats of earlier emails. The server refused to
delete downloaded mail or even mark it as read after downloading. AOL
support did nothing but make excuses. They seemed to be powerless to fix
the problem.

I believe that Genie still offers text based access with the Aladdin
front end software and possible internet text based web access, but as
far as I know,  they still charge a monthly access fee as well as per
minute charges.

I'll keep everyone posted on my progress with this project. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 11:46:14 -0400
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

Hi John,

>%B9600 sets the line speed to a max of 9600 for the cellect. I believe
>$h will give you the help screen for the commands. Anyway I tried
connecting
>with my old cellect cellular pocket modem. I got the same error at 14.4.
>Tried different strings. Nothing so far. It wouldn't even connect when
>I set the line speed to 9.6k. I'm not surprized though. I have problems
>with it connecting to my ISP too! If you need AT commands I still have
>the manual for it and the help displays them too. Hopefully there's not
>much differance between a 14.4k Cellect pcmcia and pocket.

  I'll check out the $h command. Thanks. If you do manage to figure out
some good settings for a .mdm file for the Motorola Cellect cellular 14.4
modem, please let me know. I haven't had any luck in getting in touch
with anyone at Palmtop.com yet.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 13:08:10 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Hal,

Do you have any requests for "validation" of upgrade CD's?

Ok, if I have one or two releases of the PTP on CD, and decide I want to
give one of the older one's away (say as a "sweetener" to a palmtop sale) is
it possible to purchase license to the newer copy to allow the license on
the older one to be transferable?  All of my CD's are licensed from my
original one and I can't "unload" the original as long as I have only
upgraded to get newer ones.

Phil (as clear as mud) Drummond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 12:49 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 14:37:55 -0400
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I am having trouble with Pocket Quicken, I can not enter any check
numbers.  As soon as I save a transaction the check number field is
replaced with 6 asterisks.  I have tried Triming and
exporting/importing to a new file with no luck.

Any ideas?

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 14:33:06 -0400
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Subject:      HP Connectivity pack 9 pin gender bender
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Help!

I have lost my 9 pin brown gender bender from my connectivity pack.  I =
do not believe that it is just a gender bender since a regular gender =
bender does not work.   I do not want to have to purchase a whole new =
connectivity pack.  Can someone help me and tell me what the pin =
configuration is on this device.  This way I could just make one.  =
Thanks for the help in advance.

Sincerely,


Rob Morrison

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have lost my 9 pin brown gender =
bender from my=20
connectivity pack.&nbsp; I do not believe that it is just a gender =
bender since=20
a regular gender bender does not work.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do not want to have =
to=20
purchase a whole new connectivity pack.&nbsp; Can someone help me and =
tell me=20
what the pin configuration is on this device.&nbsp; This way I could =
just make=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:17:08 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Subject:      Free net access (was: "Could not establish...")
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Tue,  4 May 1999 15:07:29 -0400 (EDT)

01h05m41s ago ...
On Tue,  4 May 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> I know that internet email access and even text based web access (like
> Lynx) can still be gotten from the text based side of the Delphi online
> service...

Hi John-

If you're looking for free email + text-based web browsing, try paying
a visit to the local public library.  Many communities provide freenet
service in association with their libraries.  I have an account on
SEFLIN freenet in South Florida.  Provides email (Unix Pine) and web
access (Unix Lynx).

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:19:48 -0400
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I have found my answer in the 200LX manual.  Sorry for the =
inconvenience.

Rob

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 12:32:53 -0700
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>   Actually, when/if I ever do manage to get their standard instruction
> letter, I wouldn't need this kind of help anymore, anyway. ;-) If you
> still have that instruction letter on your hard drive yet and could find
> it, I'd appreciate it if you could extract his personal email address fro
> it and send it to me.

Unfortunately, he sent the e-mail through cc:Mail, so the actual internet
address is not visible...

Philippe

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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem
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> Getting a strange error message tyring to use WWW/LX w/ my new Apex Data
> modem Ý(part of Smart Technologies, acc. to the label) when all the parts
> get here, I hope to use it w/ my cell phone... for now, I'm just trying
> land-line access¨.

There is a less expensive Apex Data 33.6 modem which is WinOnly!!! It is PnP
and will _not_ work apparently with 200LX.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:51:35 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 anyone know where to pick up a APEX cell/data adapter

 external box uses 9v battery (i think) connect's to modems RJ-11 jack
 provides Dialtone for modem then runs into cell fone?

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Omnibook questions

> Dave,
>
> I currently have an ob300, ob425, ob800cs, and an ob800ct on the way.
> I have had in the past and ob530, and an ob600.
>
> The keyboards *are* all full-size.  But have been variable in terms of feel.
> The only one I didn't like was the ob600 keyboard.  It tended to stick if you
> didn't press directly vertical to the key.  My typing rhythm was often broken
> by having to go back and retype a key that had stuck.
>
> Someone offered an ob425 to you.  Buy it!  You won't be sorry.  If you don't
> like it, I'll take it off your hands and you won't be out one red cent.
>
> Wayne
>

I had the same sticking key problem with a 600ct I used to have. A
guy on Compuserve (before it became AOLServe) posted detailed
instructions on how to clean and lube the keys and after I did that
it worked perfectly. There is extremely little clearance between the
key shafts and the holes they pass through and built up dirt makes
them stick. I really liked that machine but the mouse always annoyed
me, I much prefer a trackpoint like device. Other than that and the
fact that the mouse and pcmcia controller weren't supported under
linux it was a great machine (did they ever get drivers for linux?).

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:34:25 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: LXTELNET
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On 05-04 05:08am CDT, the following was written:

> This is the content of LXTCP file, which I did download today from the
> above mentioned web page.

Darn.... Rod, didn't I get LXTELNET out of the LXTCP package? Maybe, I'm
losing my mind :-/

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:44:57 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: LXTELNET Ýfluff¨
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Be sure, if you do lose your mind, that you have pre-attached the nameplate
to the bottom and the Topcard has your personal information in it.

Oh, your REAL mind... sorry about that, my palmtop long ago replaced my REAL
mind when it comes to every-day stuff. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
>
> Maybe, I'm losing my mind :-/
>
> Jeff
>

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 20:50:36 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTELNET Ýfluff¨
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <199905042044.PAA07548@sdds0.pagenet.com>; from Phil Drummond on
              Tue, May 04, 1999 at 03:44:57PM -0500
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1999-05-04-20:44:57 Phil Drummond:
> Be sure, if you do lose your mind, that you have pre-attached the nameplate
> to the bottom and the Topcard has your personal information in it.
>
> Oh, your REAL mind... sorry about that, my palmtop long ago replaced my REAL
> mind when it comes to every-day stuff. :)

You end with :), but I've long admitted that my HP-200LX is a prosthetic aid
for my brain; I lose it, and the consequences strongly resemble a stroke, only
way cheaper and easier to fix. I take _Really_ _Good_ backups.

-Bennett

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 13:52:49 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      LXTelnet's location
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

LXTelnet is found in the beta section of Rod's site, as part of the
LXTCP 1.1 beta 6.  Keep in mind that it's still in beta, perhaps because
anybody can FTP to your palmtop while you're connected (logins and
passwords aren't implemented yet) and delete all of your files.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:45:39 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Omnibook questions

Hi guy;
>I currently have an ob300, ob425, ob800cs

How is batt life on the ob425 et al.

Have you put the connectivity pack on the ob?
can you?  Does it run well?

Which one do you like best?

semper mobilius,
yor pal al..................

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 21:28:38 +0000
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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From:         Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      POST/LX Word Wrap
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290836303__"

--__next_part__1290836303__
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A kind chap pointed out that my messages to the list didn't line wrap in =
his browser. Is this one OK? Have I missed a setting (like format, for =
example?) that is causing this?

TIA
--__next_part__1290836303__
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 17:34:47 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      CIA worldfact book graphics

I notice this ues GIF files.. Wouldn't JPG offer better compression?

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 15:46:42 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: PTP Index
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On Tue, 4 May 1999 12:49:17 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> Hi Laurence,
>
> <<Is there an index of the contents of all Palmtop Paper magazines kept
> anywhere.
>
> I have now built up several years of copies and find it difficult to
> track
> down articles when I need them. It seems like this kind of information
> should be around somewhere.>>
>
> Actually, you just described my motivation for creating the HP Palmtop
> Paper CD Infobase. It contains a table of contents and a key word search
> facility.

Hi Hal & List Members,

I hope your motivation is toward a palmtop version and not Windows. <G>

BTW: Laurence I had such animal until 2 months ago it was in PalEdit database
format. It when down in flames when my desktop or should I say while trying to
install Linux on my desktop. It was an Fdisk mistake.

When I put another together I'll send you a copy. (:-) Only if you had
ask 2 months ago, then I'd be asking you for a copy. <G>



Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 01:08:28 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Carpet Designer
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290018253__"

--__next_part__1290018253__
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not joking, but the HP200LX has a built in, undocumented
carpet designer. It is function 16hex of the int5f graphics
interrupt. Usually it is abused to draw circles and round edged
boxes, but it's real purpose is to design carpets.

You don't believe me? Extract the 99 bytes CARPET.COM and let
yourself surprise. Use Esc to quit, a-z for different designs.
Any other key suspends drawing.

Almost every day I am surprised by another capability of this
little fascinating computer. We are far from knowing everything
about it!

Stefan
--__next_part__1290018253__
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="carpet.com"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

uNRNzRWA/gJ1V7l/ArrHAL4BAL0FALgGAM1fuAMKzV8z/7gAFs1ftAHNFnUQA/2B/0YFfu1Ndd69
EADr2TPAzRY9GwF0FjLkPGFyCjx6dwYsYIvo68AzwM0W69G4AwDNEM0g


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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 19:27:30 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Carpet Designer(STOP!!!!)

Whoah!! Make sure that this this program is not some trojan horse!!!

Remember that other list members addresses have been spoofed.

Did you really send this message Stefan?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Peichl Ýmailto:Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE¨
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 9:08 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Carpet Designer
>
>
> I'm not joking, but the HP200LX has a built in, undocumented
> carpet designer. It is function 16hex of the int5f graphics
> interrupt. Usually it is abused to draw circles and round edged
> boxes, but it's real purpose is to design carpets.
>
> You don't believe me? Extract the 99 bytes CARPET.COM and let
> yourself surprise. Use Esc to quit, a-z for different designs.
> Any other key suspends drawing.
>
> Almost every day I am surprised by another capability of this
> little fascinating computer. We are far from knowing everything
> about it!
>
> Stefan
>

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 19:01:36 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Carpet Designer

>
> I'm not joking, but the HP200LX has a built in, undocumented
> carpet designer. It is function 16hex of the int5f graphics
> interrupt. Usually it is abused to draw circles and round edged
> boxes, but it's real purpose is to design carpets.
>
> You don't believe me? Extract the 99 bytes CARPET.COM and let
> yourself surprise. Use Esc to quit, a-z for different designs.
> Any other key suspends drawing.
>
> Almost every day I am surprised by another capability of this
> little fascinating computer. We are far from knowing everything
> about it!
>
> Stefan

pretty wild.

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 20:07:04 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Carpet Designer
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 05-04 08:08pm CDT, the following was written:

> I'm not joking, but the HP200LX has a built in, undocumented
> carpet designer. It is function 16hex of the int5f graphics
> interrupt. Usually it is abused to draw circles and round edged
> boxes, but it's real purpose is to design carpets.

Stefan never ceases to amaze me with what he can accoplish with such minimal
amount of code!

Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 18:33:38 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Method of noting when a particular record is last accessed
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Russell:

> Correct on the requested function Ed. Also I would like to have the
> capability to know when a record was last accessed.(looked at)

I don't have a quick trick for exactly what you need, but what I use in my
Phonebook may give you an idea(?)...

My phonebook is heavily modified from the original HP structure. I added a
date field called Updt. When I modify the entry I go to that field and insert
the current date.

I am guessing you want something more structured, more automatic, which I do
not have sorry ... Would be nice to have some automatic macro (mush like the
\0 macro in Lotus) which would run each time you opened a record...)...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 21:43:33 -0400
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              Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@AECOM.YU.EDU>
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From:         Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@AECOM.YU.EDU>
Subject:      serial to parallel converter
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Is there any consensus on the optimal or most cost-effective serial to
parallel converter for the 200lx?  I have seen a "GA945HP" advertised for
$69 but don't know if this is a good deal or not.  Any other options?


Thanks,


Lionel


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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 21:00:45 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: LXTelnet's location
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 05-04 03:52pm CDT, the following was written:

> LXTelnet is found in the beta section of Rod's site, as part of the
> LXTCP 1.1 beta 6.  Keep in mind that it's still in beta, perhaps because
> anybody can FTP to your palmtop while you're connected (logins and
> passwords aren't implemented yet) and delete all of your files.  <g>

I'm sorry that I mislead everybody about the location of LXTELNET :( David
is right that someone could theoretically log into you LX while you have the
server active.

Jeff

Note to self: Encrypt dirty sex pictures with PGP in case anyone accesses
              my LX <g>.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 10:03:47 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
Subject:      Re: serial to parallel converter
Comments: To: Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@AECOM.YU.EDU>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>Is there any consensus on the optimal or most cost-effective serial
to
>parallel converter for the 200lx?  I have seen a "GA945HP" advertised
for
>$69 but don't know if this is a good deal or not.  Any other options?
>Thanks,Lionel


I have a GA945HP, I have one (I didn't pay $69, as I bought it second
hand).  It is compact and works well (albeit overpriced) better
solution
than the external powered solution I had before the GA945.

Regards......Liam
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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 22:11:31 -0400
Reply-To:     profengr@delanet.com
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From:         "Robert H. Pigford" <profengr@DELANET.COM>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX Word Wrap
Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Nope.  It is still being displayed as one long line. I have no idea why.

>Chris Randle wrote:
> A kind chap pointed out that my messages to the list didn't line wrap in his browser. Is this one OK?

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 22:27:59 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX Word Wrap
Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

FYI (on the mystery of the `long line')

Your message ends up in my browser (if I look at the `source')
as
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The message itself then appears on separate lines,
with each line a reasonable length, but each line ends
in a '=' sign just ahead of the CR. after your `TIA'
the message has a `next part' described as
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7-bit
followed by your signature

The browser must interpret the Font and `quoted-printable' as
instructions to ressurect the long line.

I have no idea why your message ends up being constructed this way,
but perhaps this will give you some clue...

Chris Randle wrote:
>
> A kind chap pointed out that my messages to the list didn't line wrap in his browser. Is this one OK? Have I missed a setting (like format, for example?) that is causing this?
>
> TIA
>

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 22:43:35 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Free email for HP200lx" project status

Hi All,

Well, I discovered that Delphi DOES actually charge a per minute fee for
all access to their local phone numbers. Their $35/yr flat charge applies
only to those who agree to telnet into Delphi. If we could do that, we
wouldn't need the Delphi service in the first place. ;-)

I did, however, get a response from tech support at ESPMail. (They are
the ones who offer the special Palmtop.com deal.) The person behind the
admin@espmail.com email address is non other than Martin Paul, himself.
:-)

He advised me that the CC:Mail recommended modem init string for the
Motorola 14.4 Kbps CELLect PCMCIA modem is  "AT&F&C1&D2\Q3V3".

It sounds as though ESPMail has CC:Mail recommended init strings for a
whole long list of modems, so I would like to see that list on their
website for direct reference. I'll write back to him and suggest that,
but I don't know how seriously they'll take only one request.

If anyone else on this list would like the CC:Mail recommended modem init
string for their particular modem, just send a quick email to
admin@espmail.com asking for it, and also request that they supply that
particular info on their website. If enough of us asked for this info
separately and all within a short time period,  I think we could be
rather persuasive. ;-)

Oh, Martin Paul suggested adding the CC:Mail recommended "setup =" as a
third "setup =" line in the .mdm. file. He also reminds everyone to
redirect CC:Mail to the new .mdm file, as well. :-)

I'll go ahead and create the new .mdm file tomorrow so I can try it out.
I'll let you know how it works. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 21:10:29 -0700
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              Larry Williams <willilc@3-CITIES.COM>
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From:         Larry Williams <willilc@3-CITIES.COM>
Subject:      Re: Abandonware legislation
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<<Due to the National Information Infrastructure Copyright Act
of 1995, (NIIC), Software in which the copyright is older
than two years AND is no longer sold on the market, has been
deemed available free to the public, due to the seemingly
"apparent uselessness of outdated technology" as stated in
the NIIC.>>

My web research says that the NIIC law was never passed in final form by
Congress.  It was superceded by the WIPO (World Intellectual Property
Organization) treaty which negotiated an international treaty on the subject
and which Congress subsequently passed legislation to implement.  I don't
know if the abandonware type language was included in the latest bill.

See http://www.dfc.org/history/history.html for information on the subject.

Larry

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 23:42:00 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Free email for the HP200LX?

Hi Peniel,

>If you're looking for free email + text-based web browsing, try paying
>a visit to the local public library.  Many communities provide freenet
>service in association with their libraries.  I have an account on
>SEFLIN freenet in South Florida.  Provides email (Unix Pine) and web
>access (Unix Lynx).

  Thanks for bringing up that possibility. I have already checked out the
local libraries in my particular area found no free internet access
offered, however your suggestion did bring up a memory of a state library
association that offers shell, Lynx  and even normal web access through
an elaborate but largely underutilized network of local phone connection
numbers across the state for a $110 annual flat fee.

Even though I still consider that route much too expensive for the sole
purpose of merely maintaining a separate and alternate email address,
other's may not feel that same way.

Besides, other's here might find a great alternate free email source in
their own back yard, just like you did. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

___________________________________________________________________
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 21:42:22 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Free email for the HP200LX?
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <19990505.002253.10294.1.j_vanderstel@juno.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi all,

I have used IBMnet for my access when I travel. They have a $4.95 a month
account that includes 3 hrs. They have over 500 POPs in the US. If you can
not find a local number, their 800 number is $6 per hour, not bad when you
only use a couple minutes to download or upload email. The 800 access does
not chew into the 3 hrs per month. They also have a surcharge of $9 when
you travel abroad.

No affiliation, I am just a happy user.

Karl


At 11:42 PM 5/4/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Peniel,
>
>>If you're looking for free email + text-based web browsing, try paying
>>a visit to the local public library.  Many communities provide freenet
>>service in association with their libraries.  I have an account on
>>SEFLIN freenet in South Florida.  Provides email (Unix Pine) and web
>>access (Unix Lynx).
>
>  Thanks for bringing up that possibility. I have already checked out the
>local libraries in my particular area found no free internet access
>offered, however your suggestion did bring up a memory of a state library
>association that offers shell, Lynx  and even normal web access through
>an elaborate but largely underutilized network of local phone connection
>numbers across the state for a $110 annual flat fee.
>
>Even though I still consider that route much too expensive for the sole
>purpose of merely maintaining a separate and alternate email address,
>other's may not feel that same way.
>
>Besides, other's here might find a great alternate free email source in
>their own back yard, just like you did. :-)
>
>Cheers!
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨
>
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>
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 07:00:06 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: Inserting files with PE
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Jeff Johns wrote:
> Can anyone share the keycode for F2 with me?

When using PE, press ESC, then 'K' and then a key and it will insert
the scan code for that key into the text. For example, after the
following arrow, I will hit ESC 'K' F2 ->3c00

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 07:27:02 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, h_e_guenther@CSI.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: LXTelnet's location
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jeff,

> I'm sorry that I mislead everybody about the location of LXTELNET :( =
David
> is right that someone could theoretically log into you LX while you =
have the
> server active.

What my question now is: Is LXTELNET avaiable or is this beta version
privat for the time being?

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 23:17:38 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Universal Computer
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I'm not sure this email made it properly to the list. Received a reply of
undeliverable, so I'll send it just in case. Please forgive if this is
duplicate mail

I couldn t help but take off on the "OmniBook question" letter from HPLX
Mailing List.

Here is an idea to fill a void in the portable computer industry. Glitz and
blitz caused the loss of the real OmniBooks. A  universal  computer would give

HP with a stable and consistent product much like the 200CD oscillator. The
demand would be at least moderate. Its potential of market share may be
surprising. Forget about yearly changes. The HP200LX has shown a machine that
many can live with over the years. The universal computer comes in three
flavors.

1. HP200LX   HP please don t mess it up.

2. OmniBook LT   HP680LX size of the OmniBook Classic w/slower processor

3. OmniBook Classic. It would be the *** universal *** machine for the past 20

years and for the next 20 years. The description is simple.

OmniBook Classic
  * OmniBook 300-800 in size
  * Rugged for field use
  * X86 processor (fast w/long battery life)
  * FLASH-MSDOS 6.22/WFW31/Off4.3 or W95 or WCE or Linux   you load
  * 16-64+MB RAM
  * Powered by AA cells   no specialized batteries
  * PCMCIA Type II/III slots
  * Serial/parallel
  * SoundBlaster compatible
  * Color NON-BACKLIT REFLECTIVE/BACKLIT display *
  * ROM with software like HP200LX
  * IR capable
  * HP200LX wish list items
  * $$cheap$$

* A thin silvered mylar reflector would allow both backlit and non-backlit
operation, whichever the user desired for indoor/outdoor use. Switch off
backlight to increase battery life by hours.

Not exactly the state of the art, but meant to be as much universal as
possible. Accessories will round out the customization/standalonishness--the
ideal machine that will not be obsolete in 6 months. There are only two
machines that fit the universal/long-lived description--the HP95/100/200 and
the Tandy 100/120. R&D is done!! Packaging is all that remains.

Notes

Student use -- here is a large potential
Machine like HP200LX
Real portability
Field missionaries
Field data taking
Backlight annoying in groups/dim rooms
Silent keyboard (unoffensive)

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Tue, 4 May 1999 23:31:45 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
Subject:      Goin' Postal Folders

Hello everyone,

I downloaded GP today and have a question about it:
How can I move mails from one folder to another. I
see that there is a folder named "saved". Can I move
mails there? Can I create other folders? I did read
the setup.txt, but I did not find an answer there.

Reinhard
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.24) EVALUATION

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:44:59 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Communications on HP200 LX
Comments: To: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>

Bennett Todd writes:
> You should probably take a good look at LXTCP, available from
> <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net/>; it's some pretty well-respected TCP/IP
> software. You should be able to use it to develop your own TCP/IP-based apps
> for the LX.

Thanks for the free plug, Bennett :-)

BTW, LXTCP is simply WatTCP with some simple applications built around
it, and packaged better for the HP200LX.  So using LXTCP is equivalent
to using WatTCP as far as TCP/IP stack functionality goes.

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
-- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net> --

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 09:27:57 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
Subject:      Flexible Pocket Light
Comments: cc: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@palmtop.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi Palmtop-Users, hi Mitch,

good news for those (especially German palmtoppers) who are still looking
for the "Flexible Pocket Light" (a small battery-light to be attached to
the palmtop with a clip). It is available at the stores of CONRAD
ELEKTRONIC, Germany, or via the net at < www.conrad.de > - The
order-number You have to fill in the full-text-search-field is:  891053-62
- Then You can see the gem. And the best thing is the price: 1,95 DM, what
means 1,05 $ !! (Without shipping, of course <g>)

Cheers, Axel

**********************************
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Mailto: klag@dwelle.de

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 15:39:42 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTelnet's location
Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>

"Guenther Helmuth E. writes:
> What my question now is: Is LXTELNET avaiable or is this beta version
> privat for the time being?

LXTELNET is available for anyone to use, as long as you accept the
conditions on my beta test page - that it's a beta version and could
have a bug that deletes all your files - which is basically the same
conditions that you accept everytime you use software (especially
software from Microsoft).

Note that none of my beta software from that page has ever deleted
anyones files - the big warning is simply there to limit the number of
"how do I set this up" questions from people who don't have the
knowledge to be an effective beta tester (especially before any
documentation has been written).

In fact, I haven't had any bug reports on beta 6 of LXTCP for a couple
of weeks, so it's about time to release it.

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 01:19:15 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTELNET Ýfluff¨
Comments: To: bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Bennett:

> You end with :), but I've long admitted that my HP-200LX is a prosthetic aid
> for my brain; I lose it, and the consequences strongly resemble a stroke, only
> way cheaper and easier to fix. I take _Really_ _Good_ backups.

Mine is called Brain II, and I clearly do not use Brain I much :-¨ ---

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 11:18:41 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
Subject:      Re: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways
Comments: To: Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Curtis, and group

Thank you for a Great program.... only one thing i will ask for,
 when i convert from HP > Outlook it convert ex. the Danish letter =F8 as
\233 and =E5 as \206 is there any workaround for this.

Thank you

Michael Hansen
Denmark


> Hi all,
>
> I've modified the Outlook contacts to HPLX converter so that it now
> converts in either direction. You can get it at
> http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html.
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron
>
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 11:46:10 +0200
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@ALCATEL.DE>
Organization: Alcatel
Subject:      Re: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways
Comments: To: Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not sure if this is a solution, because I do not know how the
program to convert HP > Outlook works, but I wrote 2 filters to convert
the 850 code page used in my LX to the ISO-Latin-1 character set used in
Windows, and vice-versa.
It is available in SUPER at
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/lx2win12.zip?dbname=3Dlx2wi=
n12.zip&URL=3Dhttp://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/lx2win12.zip

Michael Hansen wrote:
> Thank you for a Great program.... only one thing i will ask for,
>  when i convert from HP > Outlook it convert ex. the Danish letter =F8 =
as
> \233 and =E5 as \206 is there any workaround for this.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 11:49:18 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Scandinavian letters...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi all,

Well. one Dane here wondered about the Scandinavian letters x (o-slash), e
(a-circle), but there is one more: f (ae). The problem he mentioned was in
the new Outlook converter. Buddy has a problem too, with f, it just doesn't
show up. We are almost back to the old days when we had to have special
keyboard and video drivers to get everything to work properly! At least up
north here. Any workaround to this?

What about French, German and Spanish users? Do they have these problems? I
have been thinking of running the LX as a US model, PQ has some problems
with commas too.

br

Franklin

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 13:07:39 +0200
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@ALCATEL.DE>
Organization: Alcatel
Subject:      Re: Scandinavian letters...
Comments: To: Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Franklin wrote:
> What about French, German and Spanish users? Do they have these problems? I
> have been thinking of running the LX as a US model, PQ has some problems
> with commas too.

Portuguese user here, and I also had to give up writing the accented
letters and cedilla in Poquet Quicken - these letters were converted to
black boxes in my desktop Quicken.

For all the other applications I have no problem - I just run lx2win
when exporting a text file to the desktop, and win2lx when exporting
back to the LX (both available in SUPER)

Paulo

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 13:34:36 +0000
Reply-To:     fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Comments:     Authenticated sender is <fcampoy@toro>
From:         "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
Subject:      Encryptation
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Hi everyone,

        I have a simple question to ask you.
        Knows someone a simple encryptation system used on Hp200 ??
        I am looking for data file encryptation based on a key which 'eats'
not much memory.

        Can you help me ??

        Thanks

____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

Tel  +34 91 5495700   Ext 332
Fax  +34 91 3366828
e-mail:  fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
____________________________________________

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 07:29:30 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: LXTelnet's location
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 05-05 12:27am CDT, the following was written:

> What my question now is: Is LXTELNET avaiable or is this beta version
> privat for the time being?

I was able to download it so I'm assuming that it's available.

Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*


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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 07:32:16 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: Encryptation
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On 05-05 08:34am CDT, the following was written:
>         I have a simple question to ask you.
>         Knows someone a simple encryptation system used on Hp200 ??
>         I am looking for data file encryptation based on a key which 'eats'
> not much memory.

PGP does the trick for me!

Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*


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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 07:35:07 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: Goin' Postal Folders
Comments: To: molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 05-04 10:31pm CDT, the following was written:

> I downloaded GP today and have a question about it:
> How can I move mails from one folder to another. I
> see that there is a folder named "saved". Can I move
> mails there? Can I create other folders? I did read
> the setup.txt, but I did not find an answer there.

Hello! Yes you can move mail from the mailhost folders to the saved folder
and from the trash folder back to the mailhost folders. To create other
folders, you create new mailhosts or extract the message and file it in that
manner.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 15:08:20 +0200
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@snafu.de
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From:         Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@ALCATEL.DE>
Organization: Alcatel
Subject:      Off-line mail/news reader
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi group,

General question: what are the possibilities to read mail/news offline
on the LX?

I do not have a modem or network card in the LX, which excludes the the
solutions with a TCP/IP stack.

Paulo

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 15:15:39 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX Word Wrap
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Chris Randle wrote:
> A kind chap pointed out that my messages to the list didn't line wrap in
> his browser.

Both the sender and the receiver have influence on how a message is
displayed.

The sender can format the message so that there are line breaks. This
is recommended for Internet email. So you'd better use an editor that
inserts line breaks. If you use MEMO, it looks (within Memo) as if the
lines would be broken, but in reality, all of a paragraph is pushed
onto one line.

On the receivers side, it depends on what the email client does with a
message. In POST/LX, for example, you can turn formatting on and off by
pressing ALT-F. When turned on, the lines are broken so that they fit
onto the screen and use the full screen width. When turned off, they
are displayed as closely as possible to the original posting. Some
clients, however, may not be able to reformat the message and all comes
on one big line (which is why I recommended to break the lines).

There is another point that must be considered: Internet email only
supports lines of up to 80 characters. Most email system nowadays
support long lines too, but the specs say 80 characters. This is
another reason why it is better to break the lines. Some email clients
encode messages using MIME encoding (ALT-M toggles that in POST/LX)
so that long lines get broken into short lines and an equal sign marks
a "soft" line break so that the long line can be reassembled on the
receivers side. However, the receipient must support MIME decoding to
do that.

So the conclusion: it seems that you use an editor that does not break
the lines and also use MIME encoding for POST/LX. This has the effect
that some people (e.g. POST/LX users) won't notice anything strange
about your message. Some users will see one long line per paragraph and
some users will see lines ending with an equal sign.

The best way to prevent the "odd" variants is to use an editor that
breaks the lines for you or to press ENTER at the end of each line.

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 16:27:28 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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From:         Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Flexible Pocket Light
Comments: To: "Eng. & Industrial Projects"
          <industrial_projects@technologist.com>
In-Reply-To:  <003101be96fe$7cf149c0$88ac0ecb@danaan>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi Liam,

I would look on there URL < www.conrad.de >, You can switch it to English
Language (the small Union Jack on the left side <g> ) and contact them.

Axel

----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 5 May 1999, Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:

> I'd like on but what is there minimum order, + shipping it still may be
> under A$10.  Do you know what there minimum order is, any other
> little gadgets worth buying to bring it upto $20-30 and make the postage
> worthwhile
>
> Regards.....Liam
>
> | Engineering &  Industrial Projects
> | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
> | Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
> | e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
> | e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au
> | web: http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/EandIP/

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:14:37 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Comments: To: Paulo.Custodio@snafu.de
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

> Hi group,
>
> General question: what are the possibilities to read mail/news offline
> on the LX?


Well, I know that you could use WWW/LX on the desktop (I do it
regularly) and then copy over the mail/newsgroups to the HP and then use
just the POST module to to the reading and replying.  Then you could
move your replies or new messages back to the desktop and upload and
start another cycle.  It would not be too complex but it would involve
moving a certain number of files and probably doing some manual cleanup
so that you don't upload the same messages over and over.  I'm sure a
batch file could handle it after you do the linking.

I think you could do the same using Nettamer (I have not looked at it in
a very long time).  I'm not sure about the other options like going
postal or (sorry Rod!)...... and whether they run on desktops as well as
the HP.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 09:17:14 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: PTP Index Ýoff-topic, sorta)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

<<Do you have any requests for "validation" of upgrade CD's?

Ok, if I have one or two releases of the PTP on CD, and decide I want to
give one of the older one's away (say as a "sweetener" to a palmtop
sale) is
it possible to purchase license to the newer copy to allow the license
on
the older one to be transferable?  All of my CD's are licensed from my
original one and I can't "unload" the original as long as I have only
upgraded to get newer ones.>>

As long as you still own a PTP CD, you can upgrade it. In other words
anyone who owns a PTP CD can use it to validly upgrade.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 09:44:07 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: PTP Index Ýoff-topic, sorta)
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Are the old CD's "ok" to sell?

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
>
> As long as you still own a PTP CD, you can upgrade it. In other words
> anyone who owns a PTP CD can use it to validly upgrade.
>

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 07:48:15 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: Carpet Designer
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True.  Maybe we should recommend him for the space program.

I heard Galileo programmers were likewise always looking at what they could do
"on the fly" with a few bytes of available memory left.

- Longden





Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> on 05/04/99 06:07:04 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Carpet Designer




On 05-04 08:08pm CDT, the following was written:

> I'm not joking, but the HP200LX has a built in, undocumented
> carpet designer. It is function 16hex of the int5f graphics
> interrupt. Usually it is abused to draw circles and round edged
> boxes, but it's real purpose is to design carpets.

Stefan never ceases to amaze me with what he can accoplish with such minimal
amount of code!

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 11:14:27 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Wed,  5 May 1999 11:11:02 -0500 (EST)

15h02m34s ago ...
On Tue, 4 May 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> I'm not joking, but the HP200LX has a built in, undocumented
> carpet designer...

     Very Cool, My 4yr old is gonna love this! TREE now has some
competition as some competition as my favorite relaxation tool.

Once again...THANKS Stefan!

Cheers,


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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 10:29:29 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

<<Are the old CD's "ok" to sell?>>

Yes.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 16:50:26 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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From:         "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Goin' Postal Folders
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

But remember that this is POP so any folders are local to your LX, you
cannot handle folders on the server as IMAP does.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 10:07:43 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
Subject:      Hv and Zip files
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A while back there was some discussion on viewing Zip files with HV.
I don't remember if it was resolved but this can be easily done
with X-Finder. X-Finder can be set up to view HTM files with HV and
will automatically decompress a file in a Zip archive and pass it along
to a viewer. As I stumble through tweaking this in I'm more amazed by
the functionality of X-Finder. Lots of my utilities are headed for the
bit bucket! I tested this out on the latest CIA world fact book. Great
piece of work David thanks.

Paul

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 17:12:23 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Dicty - add words
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Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi friends,

does anyone know if there is a way to add words to the
free German-English dictionary 'Dicty'?

GTX
daniel

-------------------------------------------------
Daniel Hertrich
Germany
email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 10:19:57 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hv and Zip files
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

<< someone said >>
A while back there was some discussion on viewing Zip files with HV.
I don't remember if it was resolved but this can be easily done
with X-Finder. X-Finder can be set up to view HTM files with HV and
will automatically decompress a file in a Zip archive and pass it along
to a viewer.
<<.....>>

I think the problem was (maybe still is) that this works for simple
HTML files, but falls short for HTML with links to other zipped HTML
files.  HV itself would have to invoke an unzipper for this to work.

Don't know that an "on the fly" solution was ever found other than to
load something like Stacker as a TSR and work with STACKed vs ZIPed
files.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 10:19:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tim Shephard <tim_shephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      RS232 pin assignments
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I keep a list of RS 232 pin assignments in a note field in note taker.  It
has null modem and loopback wiring.  If is ok, I will send it to the list as
an attachment (2.2k) if not, I will send it individually.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 11:10:36 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Method of noting when a particular record is last accessed
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Here's an idea:

Create a macro for Fn-F10 which will put the current date in the Updt field
and then save the record, then use that key combination instead of F10
whenever saving the record. Or perhaps with buddy/another utility you could
reassign the F10 key to run the macro in Phonebook only.

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Method of noting when a particular record is last accessed


> Russell:
>
> > Correct on the requested function Ed. Also I would like to have the
> > capability to know when a record was last accessed.(looked at)
>
> I don't have a quick trick for exactly what you need, but what I use in my
> Phonebook may give you an idea(?)...
>
> My phonebook is heavily modified from the original HP structure. I added a
> date field called Updt. When I modify the entry I go to that field and
insert
> the current date.
>
> I am guessing you want something more structured, more automatic, which I
do
> not have sorry ... Would be nice to have some automatic macro (mush like
the
> \0 macro in Lotus) which would run each time you opened a record...)...
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:19:09 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Email for HP200LX project update

Hi All,

Just a quick note to say that the modem init string that ESPMail gave me
yesterday did not turn out to be a good one. So I guess I jumped the gun
on reporting success there.

I won't report again on the email for HP200LX project until I have
actually connected with a service that provides a reasonably priced
alternate email address.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

___________________________________________________________________
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Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 11:28:04 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Email for HP200LX project update
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

An alternative is to try other modems. That might give you the break you're
looking for. It did for me.

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 12:26:06 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hv and Zip files
Comments: To: "pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM" <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I think the idea was to have the ZIPs remain zipped until HV tried to link
to them, then they would unzip just long enough to satisfy HV.  Passing a
file to HV works until you come to another link in HV and then you stop
because the needed file is "alien" to HV.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Yarnell ÝSMTP:pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM¨
>
> X-Finder can be set up to view HTM files with HV and
> will automatically decompress a file in a Zip archive and pass it along
> to a viewer.
>
> Paul
>
> Paul Yarnell
> pyarnell@proaxis.com
>

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 13:40:31 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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Does anyone know if there is a way for me to be able to communicate with
people using the Windows v6 of PGP freeware that uses a DHH/DSS key pair
instead of the RSA public key which 2.6.2 for our DOS machines uses? I have
gathered many peoples public keys without a problem until today, I tried to
add to other officers key, but no luck :( They are both using PGP v6.0 from
www.pgp.com and not the MIT website. Any pointers would be appreciated!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:51:17 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
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From:         Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "Free email for HP200lx" project status
In-Reply-To:  <372fc29c6e55002@mail.tju.edu>
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It's not _free_, but I got an ibm.net account to work over the weekend with
Goin' Postal (check is in the mail). For $4.95 a month you get 3 hours of
PPP dialup time, a 3 meg POP3 mailbox, and a decent number of access
points. That's enough for me to connect a couple times a day to upload and
download. The plan's homepage is www.ibm.net.

--
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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>         Knows someone a simple encryptation system used on Hp200 ??
>         I am looking for data file encryptation based on a key which 'eats'
> not much memory.

Check out Secure Device, available on SUPER.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 20:00:45 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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Quinton Jones wrote:

>BTW: Laurence I had such animal until 2 months ago it was in PalEdit
database
>format. It when down in flames when my desktop or should I say while trying
to
>install Linux on my desktop. It was an Fdisk mistake.

But you've always got your backups :-)

>When I put another together I'll send you a copy. (:-) Only if you had
>ask 2 months ago, then I'd be asking you for a copy. <G>

What are you going to do, enter all the data by hand? if so you're more
dedicated than I am.

I look forward to a copy, thanks for the offer.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 19:41:50 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: PTP Index
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>The Palmtop Paper CD _IS_ the index to all the Palmtop Papers, as well as
>having all of them in text.  I have just upgraded to the '99 CD and
contains
>all of the contents of all the PTP's from day one to release. (1995 -
1998?)
>I highly recommend Thaddeus's Palmtop Paper CD!

I thought this may be one source of an index, but it is an expensive way
just to find a few articles in the paper version. I presume Thaddeus will
not allow the index to be made available, or is it just that the CD provides
a disc wide search facility hence allowing you to find stuff.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:49:23 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I thought this may be one source of an index, but it is an expensive
way
just to find a few articles in the paper version. I presume Thaddeus
will
not allow the index to be made available, or is it just that the CD
provides
a disc wide search facility hence allowing you to find stuff.>>

If someone wants to publish a table of contents or index for the HP
PALMTOP PAPER, I have no objection.

Hal from Thaddeus

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 08:22:23 +1200
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Hi All,
I understand somebody out there knows which 200LX serial numbers indicate
the presence or absence of the extra memory socket already presoldered on
the motherboard on my 2MB model. Can someone please advise?
Cheers...
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 13:34:54 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 5 May 1999 20:00:45 +0100, Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:


> What are you going to do, enter all the data by hand? if so you're more
> dedicated than I am.

Nope! and that I am. (:-)

> I look forward to a copy, thanks for the offer.
I'll have it ready by Friday in (3) formats (.txt, .ndb, .fdb).

The index for Volume 6, Number 1, 1997 is all ready done
(.txt, and .fdb format only).

Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:02:46 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Is there a way to transmit specific records (phone, database, appt) to a
friend's LX via infrared? I'd like to be able to select records, press a
key, and my friend gets the new records in his db automatically. Perhaps
some kind of TSR could do this? I think I've seen this feature in the Apple
Newton.

Any ideas?

Philippe ;-)

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:14:22 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 5 May 1999 20:00:45 +0100, Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:


> What are you going to do, enter all the data by hand? if so you're more
> dedicated than I am.

Nope! and that I am. (:-)

> I look forward to a copy, thanks for the offer.
You bet. (:-)

On Wed, 5 May 1999 14:49 Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:
>
>If someone wants to publish a table of contents or index for the HP
>PALMTOP PAPER, I have no objection.
>
>Hal from Thaddeus

I'll have it ready by Friday in (3) formats (.txt, .ndb, .fdb).

The index for the following Volumes are already done
(.txt, and .fdb format only):

Volume 6, Number 1, 1997
Volume 8, Number 1, 1999
Volume 8, Number 2, 1999



Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:25:41 -0700
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              Bradley Johnson <bjohnson@EPICOR.COM>
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> I will be configuring several Cisco 1601 routers in serveral locations and
> I would like to use the 200lx for this task.  Does anyone have any
> experience with this or suggestions?  I suppose that the 'DataComm'
> program on the 200lx will be sufficient.  If there are other programs
> better suited for this please let me know.  I noticed that the 'DataComm'
> program allows for scripts to be run, has anyone written any scripts to
> automate the setup process?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Brad Johnson
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 17:40:31 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 200lx and router configuration

I do this all the time and datacomm is up to the task. You need the right
cables, tho. I use a 89 pin gender changer and 9 pin null modem adptr to
make the LX be just like a PC serial port. Then, any cable that works on a
PC will work on the LX.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bradley Johnson Ýmailto:bjohnson@EPICOR.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 5:26 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ 200lx and router configuration
>
>
> > I will be configuring several Cisco 1601 routers in
> serveral locations and
> > I would like to use the 200lx for this task.  Does anyone have any
> > experience with this or suggestions?  I suppose that the 'DataComm'
> > program on the 200lx will be sufficient.  If there are
> other programs
> > better suited for this please let me know.  I noticed that
> the 'DataComm'
> > program allows for scripts to be run, has anyone written
> any scripts to
> > automate the setup process?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Brad Johnson
> >
> >
>
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:42:25 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 200lx and router configuration
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On Wed, 5 May 1999, Bradley Johnson wrote:

> > I will be configuring several Cisco 1601 routers in serveral locations and
> > I would like to use the 200lx for this task.  Does anyone have any
> > experience with this or suggestions?  I suppose that the 'DataComm'
> > program on the 200lx will be sufficient.  If there are other programs
> > better suited for this please let me know.  I noticed that the 'DataComm'
> > program allows for scripts to be run, has anyone written any scripts to
> > automate the setup process?

I've used the DataComm program on the 200LX to configure everything from
Routers and UNIX workstations to PBXs.  It works great!  Procomm (the old
shareware version) works quite well on the 200 as well... but I've always
stuck with DataComm, mainly 'cause it's there already.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 14:52:21 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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> Does anyone know if there is a way for me to be able to communicate =
with
> people using the Windows v6 of PGP freeware that uses a DHH/DSS key =
pair
> instead of the RSA public key which 2.6.2 for our DOS machines uses? I =
have
> gathered many peoples public keys without a problem until today, I =
tried to
> add to other officers key, but no luck :( They are both using PGP v6.0 =
from
> www.pgp.com and not the MIT website. Any pointers would be appreciated!

As far as I know, those users with DSS/DH keys will need to make NEW
RSA keys to communicate with RSA/DOS users.

It was a huge mistake for PGP to move to the new format, IMHO.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 08:48:47 +1000
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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I found this job advertisement.

http://www.morganbanks.com.au/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi?r=EJW/39624

Maybe someone can apply and sway the design team towards the 100/200
design!!!!

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 17:55:06 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-05 04:52pm CDT, the following was written:

> As far as I know, those users with DSS/DH keys will need to make NEW
> RSA keys to communicate with RSA/DOS users.

Is there a utility to do this?

> It was a huge mistake for PGP to move to the new format, IMHO.

Why did they do this? I'm a newcomer to the encryption game, but I really
like having it on the LX. It seems that many people are using this version 6
of PGP and I sure would like to be able to communicate with them using my
LX.

Jeff

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    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 16:01:41 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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> On 05-05 04:52pm CDT, the following was written:
>
> > As far as I know, those users with DSS/DH keys will need to make NEW
> > RSA keys to communicate with RSA/DOS users.
>
> Is there a utility to do this?

Yep.  PGP 5.5i.  Available at http://www.pgpi.com.  This will let them
generate new key rings in RSA format.  They can continue to use the 6.0
version, as it will work with RSA, but it just won't generate an RSA
key.

> > It was a huge mistake for PGP to move to the new format, IMHO.
>
> Why did they do this? I'm a newcomer to the encryption game, but I =
really
> like having it on the LX. It seems that many people are using this =
version 6
> of PGP and I sure would like to be able to communicate with them using =
my
> LX.

IIRC, they did it because of algorithim licensing issues with RSA.

Bill Childers
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 16:02:20 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 5 May 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Is there a utility to do this?

The Windows versions of PGP, such as the 6.0 version I have, generally
have an option to create an old RSA key.

> Why did they do this? I'm a newcomer to the encryption game, but I
> really like having it on the LX. It seems that many people are using
> this version 6 of PGP and I sure would like to be able to communicate
> with them using my LX.

I'm not sure, but I think it was something along the lines of RSA going
out of business.  But I'm not positive.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 18:05:54 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-05 01:00am CDT, the following was written:

> When using PE, press ESC, then 'K' and then a key and it will insert
> the scan code for that key into the text. For example, after the
> following arrow, I will hit ESC 'K' F2 ->3c00

This is a awesome feature of PE and exttremely useful! Thanks Andreas!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 18:09:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed

It was a trademark/patent issue.  RSA held all the stuff to the old PGP
algorithms.  There are no good feelings between the people at RSA and PGP
(read Garfinkel's PGP book).

The newer PGPs are based on algorithms which entered public domain which
was not only cheaper for them but let them break free of some use
constraints.  There was also beginning to be the legitimate question of
security.  2048 bit keys seemed pretty impressive in the late '80s but
doesn't encourage as much confidence in the days of a Pentium III on
every desktop.  Distributed computing resources are also quite common now
due to an Internet factor that wasn't in the early days of PGP.  I'm not
saying PGP 2.6.x is insecure but encryption folks are a PARANOID lot (ol'
Phil Z almost moved to Finland 'cause he thought Reagan was going to nuke
the world).

As for communicating with v6+ users, tell them to create a "normal" key
to communicate with you.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - There is no such thing as abondonware (earlier thread).  Copyrights
endure despite a holder's use of the underlying right.  (I'm not a lawyer
but I play one in law school.)

On Wed, 5 May 1999 17:55:06 -0500 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
>On 05-05 04:52pm CDT, the following was written:
>
>> As far as I know, those users with DSS/DH keys will need to make NEW
>> RSA keys to communicate with RSA/DOS users.
>
>Is there a utility to do this?
>
>> It was a huge mistake for PGP to move to the new format, IMHO.
>
>Why did they do this? I'm a newcomer to the encryption game, but I
>really
>like having it on the LX. It seems that many people are using this
>version 6
>of PGP and I sure would like to be able to communicate with them using
>my
>LX.
>
>Jeff
>
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>----------*
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>|
>    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's
>Dept|
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>|
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 23:15:10 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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From:         Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX Word Wrap
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Thanks Andreas. A good clear explanation.

What editor do you shell out to from POST/LX?
I'd like to follow suit.



Andreas Garzotto wrote:

<snip>
> So you'd better use an editor that
> inserts line breaks. If you use MEMO, it looks (within Memo) as if the
> lines would be broken, but in reality, all of a paragraph is pushed
> onto one line.
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Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)


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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 18:33:02 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-05 06:15pm CDT, the following was written:

> What editor do you shell out to from POST/LX?
> I'd like to follow suit.

My recommendation would be PalEdit.

Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 18:45:09 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-05 06:09pm CDT, the following was written:

> As for communicating with v6+ users, tell them to create a "normal" key
> to communicate with you.

Thanks Bill, David and Larry. You guys have given me some options and since I
know that there PGP users on the list, I'll continue the discussion here
since I am speaking of using it on my LX.

I visited the PGPi site and saw that there is a version 5 available for DOS,
will it run on the LX? Will it communicate with v6.0?

David, you and Larry both mentioned that v6.0 will make RSA keys. Can one of
you guys tell me what to tell my friends to do to generate the RSA style
key?

Thanks to everyone on the list for their help with this.

Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 00:35:31 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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From:         Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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I'm having real problems getting mains power to be recognised
by my 200LX - it seems as though the adaptor connection is
getting more and more sensitive. I have to twist and turn the
connector, and even then the connection (as reported in
Application Manager's Setup) is pretty flakey. Has anyone
else had these problems and/or knows of a solution?

Is this more likely to be a problem with the LX, or the
adaptor? (Please say adaptor!)

Also, would the fact that I'm also using a UK -> French plug
adaptor have anything to with it? (Please say yes!) The odd
thing was that it was working fine a few months ago, and I've
tried changing the UK-French adaptor to no avail.

Thanks,

 -Mike

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 08:41:28 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>I'm having real problems getting mains power to be recognised
>by my 200LX - it seems as though the adaptor connection is
>getting more and more sensitive. I have to twist and turn the
>connector, and even then the connection (as reported in
>Application Manager's Setup) is pretty flakey. Has anyone
>else had these problems and/or knows of a solution?


It could be a beak in the wire have you done a voltage  test
on the + & - side of the adaptor plug?

I've have quite a few dead mobile power supplies, as we all
tend to "wind" them up when they are moved around, flexing
as it goes into the transformer is normally what kills these
type of power supplies.

Regards.....Liam
Western Australia

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 17:42:05 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Flakey adaptor connection
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On Thu, 6 May 1999, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> I'm having real problems getting mains power to be recognised by my
> 200LX - it seems as though the adaptor connection is getting more and
> more sensitive. I have to twist and turn the connector, and even then
> the connection (as reported in Application Manager's Setup) is pretty
> flakey. Has anyone else had these problems and/or knows of a solution?

I've had this problem several times.  Generally it was the adapter
shorting out, but I've also had problems with the jack's connection to the
motherboard.  Taking apart the LX and resoldering the wires fixed it...

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 21:22:16 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Free email for the HP200LX

Hi Philippe,

>An alternative is to try other modems. That might give you the break
you're
>looking for. It did for me.

  You are right. That is an alternative, but I also see that alternative
as throwing in the towel... and I very rarely ever do that. I guess I'm
just too stubborn for that. <g>

There are few enough PCMCIA card modems out there that can be safely used
in a HP200LX, so I don't intend to throw this otherwise qualified one out
and scrape up more cash for yet another, without a real fight. ;-)

The CC:Mail's default hayes.mdm file causes it to dial up the server and
negotiate a speed. It just doesn't connect properly yet. The init string
that ESPMail recommended won't even allow the modem to dial out.

So... the way I see it, I'm at least half way there with the default .mdm
file. It appears that a minor adjustment to the default init strings is
the only thing left between success and failure.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, once I'm over this hurdle, I plan to learn how to use the manual
dial option of CC:Mail so I can use my "Freeway/Broadpoint" Long distance
phone account to connect for up to 2 hours per month free of charge from
any analog phone anywhere within the Continental U.S.

Then... maybe a script could even automate the whole thing! How's that
for innovative thinking? ;-)

___________________________________________________________________
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 19:49:17 -0500
Reply-To:     speters@kdsi.net
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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Contact cleaner did it for me (fingers crossed).

Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> I'm having real problems getting mains power to be recognised
> by my 200LX - it seems as though the adaptor connection is
> getting more and more sensitive. I have to twist and turn the
> connector, and even then the connection (as reported in
> Application Manager's Setup) is pretty flakey. Has anyone
> else had these problems and/or knows of a solution?

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 22:48:03 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      Re: serial to parallel converter
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Does anyone know if the GA945HP serial to parallel converter can be used to
transfer files between the HP200LX and an Iomega Zip drive?  Or can it only
be used to print files?

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At 10:03 AM 5/5/99 +0800,  "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU> wrote:
>
>I have a GA945HP, I have one (I didn't pay $69, as I bought it second
>hand).  It is compact and works well (albeit overpriced) better
>solution than the external powered solution I had before the GA945.

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Date:         Wed, 5 May 1999 22:40:40 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Flakey adaptor connection

>
> Is this more likely to be a problem with the LX, or the
> adaptor? (Please say adaptor!)

Hi Mike

I just had the same problem. In my case the adapter had developed a
bad connection in the jack. I put on a new jack and its fine.
An easy way to find it is connect a voltmeter to the adapter
the next time you are having these problems and if you don't get a
reading twist and turn on the wires until you do. That way you can
locate the bad spot. If you need to put the jack on a new one can
be had at an electronic parts store for a buck. Its a 9mm long
by 5.5mm OD by 2.1mm ID. HTH

John

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 03:34:37 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
Organization: None
Subject:      Re: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways
Comments: To: Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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Michael Hansen wrote:

>Thank you for a Great program.... only one thing i will ask for,
> when i convert from HP > Outlook it convert ex. the Danish letter =F8 =
as
>\233 and =E5 as \206 is there any workaround for this.

This comes from the GDBDUMP program which gets used. You might be able
to turn this off by editing the DUMP.BAT and DUMPSHOW.BAT files, and
changing the first line of each from:
     gdbdump %1 >tmp.txt
to:
     gdbdump -s %1 >tmp.txt

This should convert it, keeping special characters. The only thing is
that I hope Windows' and HP's special characters use the same codes.
Please let me know if this works.

--=20
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 03:57:30 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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Subject:      Outlook <=> HPLX Converter 1.5 Available
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Hi All,

It seems version 1.4 was successful in working with Outlook 97 as well
as 98. Now I've added a few more features. Outlook users please try
this out and let me know of suggestions.

Again, you can get it from my web page at
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

Here's the feature list:

* Support of any format PDB or GDB palmtop file.

* Support of Outlook 97, 98, and 2000.

* Select sub-folders of the main Outlook Contacts folder. You can
  select multiple folders for export by holding the CTRL key while
  clicking them.

* Map fields between Outlook and the LX however you like.

* Multiple Outlook fields can be assigned to each LX field, so in
  case an Outlook field is blank, it will go to a second or third
  to find data to put in the LX field.

* You can separate Outlook's multi-line street address fields into
  their first, second, or third lines and assign them separately to
  LX fields.

* Field mapping is stored for each different palmtop file you use,
  so you can have several different ones and it will remember the
  mapping for each. This info is stored in the same directory as
  the LX file, using the palmtop file name, except with a .MAP
  file extension.

* If you pass a palmtop file name on the command line, that palmtop
  file, along with all its mapping info, will be loaded when it
  starts.

* If you also pass the string "/run" after the file name, then the
  conversion process is started automatically.


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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 03:58:55 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: "Free email for HP200lx" project status
Comments: To: Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
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> It's not _free_, but I got an ibm.net account to work over the weekend with
> Goin' Postal (check is in the mail). For $4.95 a month you get 3 hours of
> PPP dialup time, a 3 meg POP3 mailbox, and a decent number of access
> points. That's enough for me to connect a couple times a day to upload and
> download. The plan's homepage is www.ibm.net.

I use ibm.net as my isp and have had fine service from them for
a couple of years.  I use WWWLX and a USR Courier modem via
serial cable.  (Vast overkill as I can only connect at 14.4 with
my single speed 200LX.)

Note: this piece of IBM was recently sold to AT&T so the future
is uncertain.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 05:07:44 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed
Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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> PS - There is no such thing as abondonware (earlier thread).  Copyrights
> endure despite a holder's use of the underlying right.  (I'm not a lawyer
> but I play one in law school.)

Well, there could be but it will take a while (G).  I also tried finding
links to that "statute" but could not find anything adopted - just a
discussion paper or two.

But recently I did learn something else.  "Piracy" is in the eye of the
beholder's country.  That is there are countries with different laws
than ours and others who have adopted copyright.  So while we may
consider some acts piracy or violation of copyright, they are not
criminal in some countries altho, they may be morally corrupt.

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 08:13:44 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Chris Randle wrote:
> What editor do you shell out to from POST/LX?

I am somewhat biased and use PE  (PalEdit) - I guess everybody who has
written an editor uses that one preferably :-)

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 00:05:08 -0700
Reply-To:     patrickwest@uswest.net
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Legal images
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 Folks,

Does anyone have a couple of images of the HPLX
that I could legally use on a website?

Patrick West

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 15:14:37 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Off-line mail/news reader
Comments: To: Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@ALCATEL.DE>

Paulo Custodio writes:
> General question: what are the possibilities to read mail/news offline
> on the LX?
>
> I do not have a modem or network card in the LX, which excludes the the
> solutions with a TCP/IP stack.

PNR (open-source freeware available at my web site) is suited to
offline reading.  The "usual" method of getting mail and news to and
from PNR is via LXPOP and LXNNTP, but there are a number of people who
just transfer raw mailbox files (PNR reads unix mailbox format) from
the desktop.  All the file formats are fully documented. PNR can run on
the desktop too.

I would expect that you could also use GP and POST/LX in offline mode
in much the same way, as long as you know the file formats to be able
to transfer the messages from the desktop.

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:38 +0300
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              "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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From:         "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
Subject:      double speed
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Hello!

How can I know if my 200lx is single or double speed?

Thanks  Yehuda


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Subject:      Re: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
> =

> Michael Hansen wrote:
> =

> >Thank you for a Great program.... only one thing i will ask for,
> > when i convert from HP > Outlook it convert ex. the Danish letter =F8=
 as
> >\233 and =E5 as \206 is there any workaround for this.
> =

> This comes from the GDBDUMP program which gets used. You might be able
> to turn this off by editing the DUMP.BAT and DUMPSHOW.BAT files, and
> changing the first line of each from:
>      gdbdump %1 >tmp.txt
> to:
>      gdbdump -s %1 >tmp.txt
> =

> This should convert it, keeping special characters. The only thing is
> that I hope Windows' and HP's special characters use the same codes.
> Please let me know if this works.

No, they don't!
But you can use lx2win and win2lx (available in SUPER) to convert the
text files.
Just do:
        =

        gdbdump -s %1 | lx2win >tmp.txt

and the oposite in gdbload.

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 11:17:29 +0200
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              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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> Michael Hansen wrote:
>
> >Thank you for a Great program.... only one thing i will ask for,
> > when i convert from HP > Outlook it convert ex. the Danish letter =F8 =
as
> >\233 and =E5 as \206 is there any workaround for this.
>
> This comes from the GDBDUMP program which gets used. You might be able
> to turn this off by editing the DUMP.BAT and DUMPSHOW.BAT files, and
> changing the first line of each from:
>      gdbdump %1 >tmp.txt
> to:
>      gdbdump -s %1 >tmp.txt
>
> This should convert it, keeping special characters. The only thing is
> that I hope Windows' and HP's special characters use the same codes.
> Please let me know if this works.
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron
>

Thank you for the quick response, the results change so now the letter
=E6 look like "'" and =F8 as ">" ??

In my HP200 UK english version I find ASCII codes as follow:

=E5 (a-circle) =3D 131
=C5 capital    =3D 143

=E6 (ae)       =3D 145
=C6 capital    =3D 146

=F8 (o-slash)  =3D 155
=D8 capital    =3D 157


Any other suggestion?

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 12:28:37 +0200
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              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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> Curtis Cameron wrote:
> >
> > Michael Hansen wrote:
> >
> > >Thank you for a Great program.... only one thing i will ask for,
> > > when i convert from HP > Outlook it convert ex. the Danish letter =F8=
 as
> > >\233 and =E5 as \206 is there any workaround for this.
> >
> > This comes from the GDBDUMP program which gets used. You might be =
able
> > to turn this off by editing the DUMP.BAT and DUMPSHOW.BAT files, and
> > changing the first line of each from:
> >      gdbdump %1 >tmp.txt
> > to:
> >      gdbdump -s %1 >tmp.txt
> >
> > This should convert it, keeping special characters. The only thing is
> > that I hope Windows' and HP's special characters use the same codes.
> > Please let me know if this works.
>
> No, they don't!
> But you can use lx2win and win2lx (available in SUPER) to convert the
> text files.
> Just do:
>
>         gdbdump -s %1 | lx2win >tmp.txt
>
> and the oposite in gdbload.
>
> Regards,
> Paulo
>
>

It's work.

Great!!

Thank you

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 04:13:26 -0700
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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I clocked the ob300 w/ATA FlashDisk as a boot drive at 12 hrs. on a new
battery.  HP's literature claims 9 hrs. in that configuration.

I don't know about the ob425.  I never clocked it and when I bought it,
the
battery had seen better days, but HP claimed up to 50% performance
increase
over the ob300 with a 15% reduction in battery life.

I also can't speak for the ob800 as I tend to use it powered.  It's more
like a portable desktop to me.

I like them all for different reasons (that's why I have so many :)

Wayne

Yor Pal Al wrote:

> Hi guy;
> >I currently have an ob300, ob425, ob800cs
>
> How is batt life on the ob425 et al.
>
> Have you put the connectivity pack on the ob?
> can you?  Does it run well?
>
> Which one do you like best?
>
> semper mobilius,
> yor pal al..................
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On 5/6/99, at 7:06 AM, Patrick West wrote:

>Does anyone have a couple of images of the HPLX
>that I could legally use on a website?

If no one can come up with anything, give me a yell and I'll shoot a couple
and get them out to you.

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I tried using palmtop.com with the settings they suggest. It just will =
not let me connect. I have an hp100lx with rom ver. 1.05. I read in the =
faq that in ver. 1.06 some cc:mail bugs were fixed. Has anyone else out =
there connected to palmtop.com with an hp100lx? ver 1.05 or earlier? (or =
know what is wrong with the default settings possibly?

Chris

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried using palmtop.com with the =
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ver. 1.05.=20
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On Wed, 5 May 1999 12:26:06 -0500, Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@pagenet.co=
m> wrote:

ph> I think the idea was to have the ZIPs remain zipped until HV tried to =
link
ph> to them, then they would unzip just long enough to satisfy HV.  =
Passing a
ph> file to HV works until you come to another link in HV and then you =
stop
ph> because the needed file is "alien" to HV.

Probably so (sigh), the mind _is_ the first to go. Still love
transparently reading zipped files with the lab and pag files left in
the trash bin.

 Paul

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 14:03:32 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed
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I tried PGP 5.x i on my LX and it did not run - it required a 386 I think.
But I use 2.6.3i on the LX and 5.5i on my Win98 laptop.  I use a SRAM card
for my keyring, so it works in both and is small.  All keys are RSA.

I can imagine that the commercial PGP (which is piled high in the shops) has
an intererest in having a key format that is not compatible with free
versions of PGP.

You are limited to 1024-bit keys - I think it is the 2.6.3i that has this
limit.

The LX takes a long time to sign/encrypt, it's hard work.  The laptop is
excellent, really good integration with Outlook etc., nice key management.

The initial setup was a bit daunting as there is a load you need to read to
be confident that you are doing the right thing.  It also depends how
paranoid you need to be.   For example you might want to ensure that the
plain text and encrypted text never co-exist on a system, and that you never
connect the system with the plain text to anything else (modem, LAN etc).
You may want encrypted drives, removable media...

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 08:14:00 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed

It has been awhile since I've used PGP.  We got tired of dealing with
them.

I'm looking at my v6 package and there are two CDs.  The RSA capabilites
are on a separate CD from the main software.  It has to be installed
separately.  I also recall having to specifically ask that it be included
in the package.  Furthermore, it is only available to licensed
purchasers.  Your freeware friends are out of luck using v6 to create RSA
keys.

They could, however, use 5.5i from the international version.  They could
also use 2.6.x to generate them and then import to v6.  Also, I seem to
recall a discussion on PGP-USERS that v6 for DOS requires major
horsepower - way too much for a palmtop.

Larry Zimmerman

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Can anybody point me to the url, where I can find the 1stthing.gdb, mentioned in the article of Hal Goldstein in the article found on http://www.thaddeus.com/p15/p1500055.htm
?

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 06:47:42 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 6 May 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> I'm looking at my v6 package and there are two CDs.  The RSA
> capabilites are on a separate CD from the main software.  It has to be
> installed separately.  I also recall having to specifically ask that
> it be included in the package.  Furthermore, it is only available to
> licensed purchasers.  Your freeware friends are out of luck using v6
> to create RSA keys.

This is very strange, as my 6.0.2 version for Windows, which I downloaded
from pgpi.com (I think), has the capability to do RSA keys.  It does have
the Network Associates logo all over it... I wonder if this is an illegal
copy or something.

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 09:59:18 -0400
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I think this is what you're looking for:
ftp://palmtop.net/pub/database/covey.zip

HTH
Ed

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 09:07:05 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Patrick,
   I have some digital cameras, I would be happy to shoot some shots of
my HP200 on a nice background and e-mail them to you.
-Bryan


Patrick West wrote:

>  Folks,
>
> Does anyone have a couple of images of the HPLX
> that I could legally use on a website?
>
> Patrick West
>
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 09:16:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ PGP Help Needed

PGPi is the international version.  It is a legitimate version.  PGP
cannot be exported out of the US because it is technically a "munition".
PGPi takes the source in book form (legal to export on paper) and scans
it in then recompiles it so international users can get it (that's the
way it used to be anyway).  They did this with PGPs wink-and-nod and
indirect assistance.

PGPi v6 has RSA in it because the RSA patent was only valid in the US.
International versions of PGP have always used the full, uncrippled
version of RSA.

Intellectual property lawyers suggest that it violates the RSA patent to
use an international PGP version in the United States.  It is a simple
violation of RSAs patents which protect them against unauthorized use.

If you are a commercial US user of PGP, then you have to have a licensed
copy of PGP (cost $150 for awhile).  PGP only authorizes freeware use of
their products for non-commercial uses (check the license).  They didn't
include RSA ability in their freeware versions because of RSAs patents
(have we got the mantra now ;-).  Though it effectively cut off
communication with RSA users, the switch to DH/DSS was to get access to a
strong algorithm in the public domain.

Many really paranoid users of PGP won't touch any new version.  The code
has gotten so incredibly large that no one could effectively walk through
it and verify its security anymore.  There is also uneasiness that
Network Associates is non-committal about staying out of key recovery
schemes.  The Cyber-Knights Templar have created versions of PGP 2.6.x
which generate super-huge keys (last I saw there were some 8000+ bit
keys) and sparked the interest of paranoids but ticked off Phil Zimmerman
himself.  Many contend the best PGP you can get is PGP 2.6.3i in source
and compile it yourself.  Only the NSA really knows ;-).

Larry Zimmerman


On Thu, 6 May 1999 06:47:42 -0700 David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:

>This is very strange, as my 6.0.2 version for Windows, which I
downloaded
>from pgpi.com (I think), has the capability to do RSA keys.  It does
have
>the Network Associates logo all over it... I wonder if this is an
illegal
>copy or something.


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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:18 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I downloaded the Cia Factbook 1998 and when unzipping I got bad crc in
this file:

RQ-150.GIF

Could somebody please send me this file so that I don't have to dowload
the whole package again..

Thanks in advance

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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.05.9905051558400.29672-100000@home.hplx.net>; from
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1999-05-05-23:02:20 David Sargeant:
> 1999-05-05 Jeff Johns:
> > Ý re new PGP key formats w/ PGP5 ¨
> > Why did they do this? I'm a newcomer to the encryption game, but I
> > really like having it on the LX. It seems that many people are using
> > this version 6 of PGP and I sure would like to be able to communicate
> > with them using my LX.
>
> I'm not sure, but I think it was something along the lines of RSA going
> out of business.  But I'm not positive.

No, it's something different. When Phil Zimmerman (the author of PGP) got
seriously into the swing of the project, it got to be pretty well defined:
make the best encryption program possible. Now one major part of achieving
that goal is using the best encryption _algorithms_ known, for the various
needed algorithms (public key AKA asymmetric, secret key AKA symmetric,
checksum AKA crypto hash, etc.). When Phil got to the point of settling
on these algorithms for PGP 2.x, the best ones known, the best-trusted
algorithms, included RSA public key and IDEA secret key --- and both are
protected by patents. This in turn means that he could write the code, and he
could give it away, but people couldn't legally use it (the details are very
complex; as a flat statement that was not strictly correct; it's more like
"some people couldn't legally use it in some places").

So with PGP 5, on reviewing the menu of available algorithms, some had had
their patents lapse (D-H public key), and others were available unencumbered
by patent (triple-DES secret key); by substituting some different algorithms
they could get out from under the patent barrier and distribute a cryptosystem
that could be legally used by nearly everyone --- and so they did. The price
paid was a hopefully-final break in backward compatibility. Getting out from
under the legal barriers was really important, so they paid that one-time
price. The hardest-hit were folks like us on platforms sufficiently historical
that they haven't gotten the new crypto code back-ported.

Anybody gotten a working port of a modern PGP or GnuPG back to plain old DOS?

-Bennett

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On 05-06 11:35am CDT, the following was written:

> Anybody gotten a working port of a modern PGP or GnuPG back to plain old DOS?

By modern do you mean more modern that 2.6.2?

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 16:49:29 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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1999-05-05-23:09:06 Larry N Zimmerman:
> There was also beginning to be the legitimate question of security. 2048 bit
> keys seemed pretty impressive in the late '80s but doesn't encourage as much
> confidence in the days of a Pentium III on every desktop.

Minor nit (the gist of the idea is right) --- 2048-bit public keys are
fantastically, excessively secure; PGP 5 (and some modified versions of the
later PGP 2.x series) upped the limit _to_ 2048 from 1024.

Today, a 1024-bit RSA public key is regarded as the minimum size to consider
safe for a few years; while 768-bit is at the moment out of reach, it's not
far _enough_ out of reach to make people really feel comfortable. Shamir's
recent TwinkleÝ1¨ brought the limits a little closer, but 1024-bit still
remains the widest recommendation. 2048-bit is generally believed to be a
difficulty level in the same neighborhood as brute-force searching a 128-bit
keyspace for a good symmetric algorithm, hence the popularity of that key
size. Estimates for cracking keys of that size (2048 RSA, 128 symmetric) are
cosmological, as in out past the anticpated heat death of the universe or
whatever --- which means they are meaningless, since we're very confident that
someone will change the rules long before then:-).

-Bennett

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Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@scott.net>
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1999-05-06-16:40:38 Jeff Johns:
> Bennett Todd:
> > Anybody gotten a working port of a modern PGP or GnuPG back to plain old DOS?
>
> By modern do you mean more modern that 2.6.2?

Ayup. By modern I mean, supporting the new algorithms, and so interoperable
with other modern PGP releases.

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On Thu, 6 May 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> Ayup. By modern I mean, supporting the new algorithms, and so
> interoperable with other modern PGP releases.

I was reading a PGP FAQ yesterday, and it said that one of the
disadvantages of the new algorithms is that message sizes more than double
after encryption using the new algorithms.  Is that right?  Is that
compared to RSA, or just the original message?  Doesn't seem like it would
be worth porting over to a 200LX, if it meant everything we encrypted
would balloon in size...

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 12:00:42 +0200
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Subject:      Semiconductor ID

Hello

This IS DOS LX related<g>. I was hoping someone could indentify this.
I think its a darlington. The number on the package is PH75 53-06A.
I can't find it in any of my cross refernces. It is part of the circuit
that sets the charging current going to the batteries on the LX. Thanks.

John

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From:         Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
Subject:      flexible pocket light

Hi,

I went to "conrad"-electronics today and bought the flexible
pocket light for DM 1.95 (and a NiMh-Charger). I am a little
 disappointed by the light. It's a little bit too flexible,
as it's very hard to fix it in position (any tips, modifications
etc.?).
I think it's not much more worth than what I did pay for it.
But still better than complete darkness.

How long can I expect the batteries to work? How long does it
run on NiMhs?

regards,
Reinhard


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>  disappointed by the light. It's a little bit too flexible,
> as it's very hard to fix it in position (any tips, modifications
> etc.?).

I didn't have that problem so don't know but a good modification
is replacing the bulb with a white LED. Its brighter and you extend
the battery life quite a bit.

John

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I finally succeeded in writing an AREXX script which:
    1. Downloads the complete movie listings for the area.
    2. Invokes HTTx to convert the HTML formatted document to text.
    3. Creates a comma-delineated file of the movie listings.

After I have downloaded this to my 200lx, I open the .SCF (Showtimes Comma
File) on X-Finder which invokes GDBIO to load it into my SHOW.SDB template
overwriting my previous SHOWTIME.GDB file.  The resultant file is about 17k
for the week's listings.  I can quickly scan what movies are playing at
each local theater.  By setting it to Sort by movie title, I can see where
a particular movie is playing.  By adding more Subsets to the template, I
can also quickly isolate theater listings by any other criteria.

If anyone is interested (I don't want to post a binary .GDB unless there is
a great demand), I could post a trimmed down listing (for size) so folks
could tell me if they though it was useful.  This is a really preliminary
script and right now it requires an Amiga with Arexx, HTTPget and HTTx to
run, but it might be a start for someone else.  Perhaps you could give me
some idea of how else I could structure this?

Thanks!

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> I finally succeeded in writing an AREXX script which:
>     1. Downloads the complete movie listings for the area.
>     2. Invokes HTTx to convert the HTML formatted document to text.
>     3. Creates a comma-delineated file of the movie listings.
Ýsnip¨
> script and right now it requires an Amiga with Arexx, HTTPget and HTTx =
to
> run, but it might be a start for someone else.  Perhaps you could give =
me
> some idea of how else I could structure this?

I don't know about structure... but perhaps the REXX script could be
ported to a DOS REXX, and then you could use WWW/LX and GET.EXE, and do
the whole operation on the palmtop.  That'd be cool.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 20:53:16 +0000
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Dear Paulo,

I use WWW/LX on my HP, but connect to the internet via the modem on my Windows
95 PC. I use Win95 dial up server, and a shareware/freeware (depending on
number of connections) proxy server called Spoon Proxy.

It took quite a bit of fiddling and testing, (I seem to have a mental block
with internet things!), but it's working now.

If there's any interest in the configuration and s/w needed, I can post the
instructions (after I've written them!) on my web site.



Paulo Custodio wrote:

> General question: what are the possibilities to read mail/news offline
> on the LX?
>
> I do not have a modem or network card in the LX, which excludes the the
> solutions with a TCP/IP stack.
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 20:50:15 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

> << someone said >>
> A while back there was some discussion on viewing Zip files with HV.
> I don't remember if it was resolved but this can be easily done
> with X-Finder. X-Finder can be set up to view HTM files with HV and
> will automatically decompress a file in a Zip archive and pass it along
> to a viewer.
> <<.....>>
>
> I think the problem was (maybe still is) that this works for simple
> HTML files, but falls short for HTML with links to other zipped HTML
> files.


RIGHT.


> HV itself would have to invoke an unzipper for this to work.
>
> Don't know that an "on the fly" solution was ever found other than to
> load something like Stacker as a TSR and work with STACKed vs ZIPed
> files.

It was me who asked this originally.
Thanks for all your suggestions!

The friend of mine, who wanted to know this (he's not yet subscribed
to the list) now uses DIET as a TSR unzipping the files on the fly.

He's got a few problems with corrupted files, but AFAIK it works
now fine for him.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

> >Is there any consensus on the optimal or most cost-effective serial
> to
> >parallel converter for the 200lx?  I have seen a "GA945HP" advertised
> for
> >$69 but don't know if this is a good deal or not.  Any other options?
> >Thanks,Lionel

I have a CVTSP2 (made in Taiwan). I don't know if it's available
outside Germany.
I paid 100 DM, i.e. abt. 60 US$.
It has optional external power supply, but works fine without,
if the serial cable length isn't too long.

It has 10 DIP switches for configuring speed, parity, flow control...

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

see also my article about pin layouts of the HP's serial port and of
other RS232-connectors in the 'more...' section of palmtop.net at

www.palmtop.net/hpserial.html

GTX
daniel

> I keep a list of RS 232 pin assignments in a note field in note taker.  It
> has null modem and loopback wiring.  If is ok, I will send it to the list as
> an attachment (2.2k) if not, I will send it individually.


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DOS REXX  exists for the LX??? Tell me more - please.
Cheers...
Roger Whitmarsh

Bill Childers wrote:
>>I don't know about structure... but perhaps the REXX script could be
>>ported to a DOS REXX, and then you could use WWW/LX and GET.EXE, and do
>>the whole operation on the palmtop.  That'd be cool.

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Hello,
    I'm new to this list, I just got a 1000CX 1 Meg unit new
(at a great price, IMHO) to see how I like the form-factor,
(I also have an IBM PC110, Toshiba Libretto 50ct and an
HP OmniBook 800CT) and general tinkering around. I
have a few questions for others on the list:

    I heard mention of certain HP LXs having a socket on
    the motherboard to upgrade thr ram - how could I tell
    if my 1000CX is so equipped (I'm hesitant to open it
    as I just got it yesterday!)? And if there is a socket,
    what is the part number and where would I get  one?

    My 1000CX has NONE of the applications that the
    200LX has included, yet the ROM power-up sequence
    says that there is software licensed from Lotus and
    Intuit in there (copyright messages) - anyone know why?

    The autoexec.bat on the D: drive ends with a command
    to start the 200LX software (command is 200) - it is
    commented out, but why is it in the ROM, any ideas?

    I was able to use a CF card I had in my parts bin by using
    fdisk100.exe to define a partiton on the card, then I ran
    format to format the "drive", is there anything else I should
    do? The card is fine, I can access it under DOS as A: or
    E:, but is that all I need to do?

    Since my unit has no included apps, does anyone have
    any suggestions for replacement applications (i.e. Lotus
    Agenda, GEM OS, etc.)?

Thanks in advance, and if anyone would like to get one of these
units (1000CX) I can get them shipped to you for well under $150
in the Continental US... Please email me privately if interested.

Thanks in advance,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

PS - I laugh everytime I look at the 1000CX, since it *really* looks
like a junior OmniBook 800!

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> DOS REXX  exists for the LX??? Tell me more - please.

Rexx comes with IBM DOS 7.  There are also other ports of it... An
altavista search will come up with quite a few hits.

Bill

Bill Childers
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Hi, Ken,

To get most of your questions answered and get caught up on everything
that's been happening for the past six years, hop over to
http://www.palmtoppaper.com  It's a good starting place. From there it's
off to the Palmtop's webring and dip into the SUPER site for lots of
software. Need a spreadsheet? There's older versions of AsEasyAs on the n=
et
somewhere--a pretty good replacement for 1-2-3. There are all kinds of
editors. DataPerfect for a free relational database and on and on. =


Welcome aboard.
.ed. ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 16:36:49 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Tell me more.  What is the 1000lx?  Is it basically a 200lx but in a
laptop form factor???

Also, if you wouldn't mind telling me off-list, I'd like to hear your
impressions of the PC110.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 14:47:12 -0700
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On Thu, 6 May 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> Tell me more.  What is the 1000lx?  Is it basically a 200lx but in a
> laptop form factor???

It's a 200LX without the System Manager-- just DOS, no apps.  Same form
factor and everything.  It's actually called a 1000CX.

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 17:48:08 -0400
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Are there any blue keys?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 5:47 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > Tell me more.  What is the 1000lx?  Is it basically a 200lx but in a
> > laptop form factor???
>
> It's a 200LX without the System Manager-- just DOS, no apps.
> Same form
> factor and everything.  It's actually called a 1000CX.
>
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On Thu, 6 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> Are there any blue keys?

I don't remember if they're blue or not... I don't think so.  They're
straight punctuation keys.  "Filer" is !, Appt is @, etc.

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 15:59:29 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 6 May 1999 16:38:34 -0400, Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> Hello,
>     I'm new to this list, I just got a 1000CX 1 Meg unit new
> (at a great price, IMHO) to see how I like the form-factor,
> I have a few questions for others on the list:

Welcome!

The memory on the 1000CX can be upgraded, but I'm not for sure if it already
has the needed socket.

Thaddeus Computing can do the upgrade for you if it doesn't have the
socket.

Thaddeus Computing
By Internet: http://www.PalmtopPaper.com
By: Fax: 515-472-7879
By Phone: 800-373-6114 or 515-472-6330
By Mail: 110 North Court Fairfiel IA 52556

>     My 1000CX has NONE of the applications that the
>     200LX has included, yet the ROM power-up sequence
>     says that there is software licensed from Lotus and
>     Intuit in there (copyright messages) - anyone know why?
>
>     The autoexec.bat on the D: drive ends with a command
>     to start the 200LX software (command is 200) - it is
>     commented out, but why is it in the ROM, any ideas?
>

Can't help you here pal.

>     I was able to use a CF card I had in my parts bin by using
>     fdisk100.exe to define a partiton on the card, then I ran
>     format to format the "drive", is there anything else I should
>     do? The card is fine, I can access it under DOS as A: or
>     E:, but is that all I need to do?

If its recognized and your able to write to it, then you did a good job and
nothing more is needed.

>     Since my unit has no included apps, does anyone have
>     any suggestions for replacement applications (i.e. Lotus
>     Agenda, GEM OS, etc.)?

Get HDM its available on the SUPER Site.

S.U.P.E.R. SITE
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

HDM is a great way to manage DOS applications on your LX.
I can manage and organize up to 200 DOS programs with control over zoom mode,
screen, serial port, power management, etc. Built with PAL so it has the look
and feel of the 100/200LX  built-in applications.

The newest version was enhanced by the author and
Thaddeus Computing to make it even more powerful. Freeware.

For file management install DOSShell.

> PS - I laugh everytime I look at the 1000CX, since it *really* looks
> like a junior OmniBook 800!

Cool!



Regards,

Qman...

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Out of curiosity (and possibly developing a more cost-effective
solution), for what purpose do folks desire a serial-to-parallel
converter?

Is it just n serial bits in converted to n parallel bits out?  Or is
more 'smarts' required, like for printer use, or bidirectional port
for other gadgets normally hung off a PC parallel port, or ???

Steve

> Is there any consensus on the optimal or most cost-effective serial
> to  parallel converter for the 200lx?  I have seen a "GA945HP"
> advertised for $69 but don't know if this is a good deal or not.
> Any other options?
>
> Thanks,Lionel

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 19:57:02 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Free email for the HP200LX

Hi Philippe and all,

---- John Vander Stel wrote:
>> BTW, once I'm over this hurdle, I plan to learn how to use the manual
>> dial option of CC:Mail so I can use my "Freeway/Broadpoint" Long
distance
>> phone account to connect for up to 2 hours per month free of charge
from
>> any analog phone anywhere within the Continental U.S.
>>
>> Then... maybe a script could even automate the whole thing! How's that
>> for innovative thinking? ;-)

---- Philippe wrote:
>Tell me more about Freeway/Boradpoint!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Philippe :-)

  Just point your browser to www.broadpoint.com and check it out. :-)

  It'll probably take a couple of months to get your membership pin
number, but when you do finally get it, you'll get 2 hours of free long
distance per month from any phone anywhere in the country. :-)

  What's the catch? They can explain it better than I could, but here's
my summary:

  Anyone with an email address is eligible for a Freeway long distance
account.

  It works kind of like the free Juno email service in that you'll need
to fill out a confidential questionaire on their website about your
interests and biographics. You'll then agree to listen to one audio
advertisement for each 2 minutes of long distance you intend to use
before completing each call. Each ad actually lasts only seconds, so
listening to only 60 seconds results in quite a few minutes of free long
distance.

  I'm more than willing to listen to one short ad to get a free 2 minute
call to exchange email with Palmtop.com. :-) That would give you
approximately 2 free connects per day.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 00:15:49 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Thanks to everyone who replied about the adapter. Cleaning it
seems to have done the trick for the time being.

 -Mike

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 20:22:18 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Need help with 95lx/flashcard
Comments: To: James de'Armond <dearmond@slip.net>
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Quoting James de'Armond (dearmond@slip.net):
> I hope you can answer a question for me. I've got a 95lx and would like to
> get a HP 10meg Flashcard working with it. Do you know what I'm supposed to
> do (drivers etc) to get this thing working? Thanks.
>
> James de'Armond
> dearmond@slip.net
> www.homeofficecenter.com
> 510-559-8288

I have forwarded your question on to the HPLX mailing list as I have no history
with the 95LX. I'm sure someone there can help you.
--
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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 21:00:17 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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I also got the message the zip file was corrupted.
Rodger

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 11:23 AM
Subject: Could somebody send me this file from the Cia factbook


>I downloaded the Cia Factbook 1998 and when unzipping I got bad crc in
>this file:
>
>RQ-150.GIF
>
>Could somebody please send me this file so that I don't have to dowload
>the whole package again..
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>--
>Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
>Martin Bergvill
>Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 01:19:07 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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I've using Personal Rexx (for DOS) by Quercus Systems for many
years; it is an excellent REXX.  I think you can also use the
Rexx that comes with IBM PC DOS; this might even be cheaper if
you can find a discount on their DOS v7.

Lots of Rexx info via the Rexx Language Association
www.rexxla.org (I think that's the url).

cheers... Russ

> DOS REXX  exists for the LX??? Tell me more - please.
> Cheers...
> Roger Whitmarsh
>
> Bill Childers wrote:
> >>I don't know about structure... but perhaps the REXX script could be
> >>ported to a DOS REXX, and then you could use WWW/LX and GET.EXE, and do
> >>the whole operation on the palmtop.  That'd be cool.

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 18:42:27 -0700
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Has anyone tried to connect the REX pcmcia card to the LX? I'm thinking the
TrueSync software should be able to read some format we could convert to
(the Oulook converter perhaps???) and back, hopefully.

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 22:27:08 +0000
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I'm interested in a serial to parallel converter for the HP200LX because
I'd like to back up or copy files from my HP200LX to an external Iomega Zip
100 parallel port drive.  This would also permit me to share files between
computers without doing a direct file transfer via cable between computers.

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At 04:18 PM 5/6/99 +0800, parkiss@earthlink.net wrote:
>Out of curiosity (and possibly developing a more cost-effective
>solution), for what purpose do folks desire a serial-to-parallel
>converter?
>

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Printing...

Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh
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At 04:18 PM 5/6/99 +0800, parkiss@earthlink.net wrote:
>Out of curiosity (and possibly developing a more cost-effective
>solution), for what purpose do folks desire a serial-to-parallel
>converter?
>

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:32 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>software. Need a spreadsheet? There's older versions of AsEasyAs on
the net
>somewhere--a pretty good replacement for 1-2-3. There are all kinds
of
>editors. DataPerfect for a free relational database and on and on.


Hi Ed,

What benefits does AsEasyAs have over 1-2-3 (funny that I was just
looking at the Trius site last night for the PC Draft package).

Regards....Liam Early

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Date:         Thu, 6 May 1999 23:31:38 -0400
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Subject:      "easy slide-in hotsync base" project report

Hi All,

  I've discovered a problem that might prevent the "easy slide-in hotsync
base" project from being a success. The stock A/C adapter plug will not
fit into the Station 100 base adequately without a major alteration of
the base, itself. The standard A/C plug's connector barrel is too short
to protrude far enough through the appropriate hole in the Station 100
base to allow a good connection with the HP200LX.

  I had allegedly finished the construction phase of the hotsync base the
other day and have been evaluating how well it actually handled
frequently sliding the HP200LX in and out of the base on a daily basis.
The slide-in hotsync base seemed to be working great ... until my
batteries got low. Today I found the screen on my HP200LX off while it
was plugged into the hotsync base. When I pushed the "on" button I got a
quick "beep beep", after which the screen immediately turned off again.

  I pulled the power plug out of the base and plugged it directly into my
HP200LX. It then turned on with no problem, at all. The HP200LX's manual
described this as a symptom of low batteries, so even though setup showed
the main battery bar at half, I replaced the main batteries anyway. All
is now fine again.

  I'm assuming that my PCMCIA modem's inactive power load was enough to
trigger that behavior when the main battery bar display in Setup dropped
down to just half.

  I'll put this project on a back burner for now, since my hotsyncs and
backups are working fine right now without the base.

  At a later date, I'll pull it out again and try shaving the holder and
hole for the A/C power plug a little larger so the plug barrel can
protrude a little further out of that hole. I just hope that base's plug
holder will be able to grip a smaller portion of the plug well enough to
still hold it firmly in place.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 00:04:46 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Subject:      HP-1000CX
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Would you be interested in trading a HP1000CX for a HP100LX 2MB in Like-New
condition?

I have an HP100LX with 2 MB RAM I purchased strictly for a backup in case
something happened to my HP200LX.

================================================
At 04:38 PM 5/6/99 -0400, Ken Hansen wrote:
>Hello,
>    I'm new to this list, I just got a 1000CX 1 Meg unit new
>(at a great price, IMHO) to see how I like the form-factor,
>(I also have an IBM PC110, Toshiba Libretto 50ct and an
>HP OmniBook 800CT) and general tinkering around. I
>have a few questions for others on the list:
>
>    I heard mention of certain HP LXs having a socket on
>    the motherboard to upgrade thr ram - how could I tell
>    if my 1000CX is so equipped (I'm hesitant to open it
>    as I just got it yesterday!)? And if there is a socket,
>    what is the part number and where would I get  one?
>
>    My 1000CX has NONE of the applications that the
>    200LX has included, yet the ROM power-up sequence
>    says that there is software licensed from Lotus and
>    Intuit in there (copyright messages) - anyone know why?
>
>    The autoexec.bat on the D: drive ends with a command
>    to start the 200LX software (command is 200) - it is
>    commented out, but why is it in the ROM, any ideas?
>
>    I was able to use a CF card I had in my parts bin by using
>    fdisk100.exe to define a partiton on the card, then I ran
>    format to format the "drive", is there anything else I should
>    do? The card is fine, I can access it under DOS as A: or
>    E:, but is that all I need to do?
>
>    Since my unit has no included apps, does anyone have
>    any suggestions for replacement applications (i.e. Lotus
>    Agenda, GEM OS, etc.)?
>
>Thanks in advance, and if anyone would like to get one of these
>units (1000CX) I can get them shipped to you for well under $150
>in the Continental US... Please email me privately if interested.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Ken
>khansen@njcc.com
>
>PS - I laugh everytime I look at the 1000CX, since it *really* looks
>like a junior OmniBook 800!
>
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> I'm interested in a serial to parallel converter for the HP200LX because
> I'd like to back up or copy files from my HP200LX to an external Iomega Zip

Will not work for that purpose.  You need the transdigital pcmcia card.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 15:27:58 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Announce: LXTCP 1.1 and PNR 3.1 released
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I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.1 of LXTCP (the
HP200LX TCP/IP Development Kit) and version 3.1 of PNR (the Palmtop
New Reader).  Both programs are open-source freeware and can be used
by anyone for anything (including commercial use).

For those of you who are not familiar with LXTCP and PNR, see the
bottom of this message for more details.

Note that some people have found LXTCP and PNR less than easy to set
up (and this has not changed all that much in this version), so I
recommend that if you want a user-friendly, well documented,
commercial TCP/IP solution then you get WWW/LX or Goin' Postal (both
of which are available from http://www.palmtop.net/super.html).

Binaries and source code for both LXTCP and PNR can be downloaded from
my Software Library:

     http://rwhitby.hplx.net/download.html

     (WWW/LX users: http://www.hplx.net/rwhitby/download.html)

LXTCP (http://lxtcp.hplx.net/) has the following new features:

1/ All LXTCP utilities now look for a file called "LXTCP.CFG" instead of
   "WATTCP.CFG".  Note that the format of the LXTCP.CFG file is
   backwards compatible with the old WATTCP.CFG file format, so you
   can use the same file for both LXTCP and other WatTCP applications.

2/ I've added some basic LXTCP.CFG configuration information to the
   lxtcp.doc file to make it easier to configure LXTCP applications.

3/ LXNNTP has new maxmsgs and newsrc directives.

4/ LXTCP now support passive connections (required for some firewalls).

5/ A new application: LXTELNET - allows multiple telnet sessions, and
   also contains an FTP server (which can now be password protected).

6/ The source code package contains the beginnings of a virtual web
   server (LXVWS), but it's still in the alpha stage - so it doesn't
   appear in the binaries-only package.

PNR (http://pnr.hplx.net/) has the following new features:

1/ PNR now deletes any read news when you exit, and stores enough
information about the unread news so that LXPOP and LXNNTP can add any
newly downloaded messages to the unread news that was previously
downloaded.  This allows you to send replies or download a new batch
of news before you have finished reading the news you already have on
the palmtop.

Many thanks to those who helped out during the beta testing period.

--

LXTCP is a collection of freeware software programs for the
HP200LX palmtop that provides clients (and sometimes servers)
for various TCP/IP protocols (such as SMTP, POP, NNTP, FTP,
TELNET, etc). Connectivity to the corresponding TCP/IP protocol
servers or from the corresponding TCP/IP protocol clients is
via one of the following mechanisms:

  a) a PPP connection via a serial cable
  b) a PPP connection via a PCMCIA or external modem
  c) a direct Ethernet connection via a PCMCIA ethernet card

At the present time, six LXTCP programs are available.

The LXTCPCFG program checks your configuration file, and (if you
are using BOOTP) the response of your BOOTP server.

The LXPING program checks your connectivity to other computers.

The LXPOP program allows you to transfer mail between your
SMTP/POP servers and your HP200LX (ready for an offline reader
such as the Palmtop News Reader).

The LXNNTP program allows you to transfer news between your
NNTP server and your HP200LX (ready for an offline reader such
as the Palmtop News Reader).

The LXFTP program is an FTP client for the HP200LX with quite
versatile scripting capabilities.

The LXTELNET program is a TELNET client for the HP200LX with
multiple session capability, and also serves as an FTP server.

--

Palmtop News Reader (PNR) is an offline news & mail reader. It is
capable of reading:

      MMDF format files created by LXPOP and LXNNTP
      Standard UNIX mailbox format files
      Bare format news files (which can be created via rn, tnr, tin, etc.).

News & mail is imported to PNR via an external program called PNRTI
(Palmtop News Reader Threader & Indexer), which interprets, indexes,
threads, and removes killed articles from the news & mail files.

PNR is System Manager compliant and is compatible with the HP200LX
TCP/IP Development Kit (LXTCP).

--
-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
-- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net> --

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 08:12:33 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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dkemme@compuserve.com wrote:
> I am using PostLX to access my compuserve POP 3 mail. I have
> the account set up to forward my CIS mail to my POP account.
> How do I avoid receiving headers?

Make people send email to your_name@csi.com instead of
your_name@compuserve.com (or ask CIS to stop that nonsense ;-).

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 13:33:19 +0700
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I am starting to use PNR/LXTCP, quite wonderful software (Big thanks to
Rod).
I can easily download, read and organise my mail but one thing I can not
do yet, I can not send the e-mail.
I am still wondering why the LXPOP only downloading the e-mails but it
just skips sending them, while I have created 3 or 4 mails
(outgoing.m0x) in my spool directory.
Did I miss something here?

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 16:30:04 +1000
Reply-To:     Hasjim Williams <h.williams@student.qut.edu.au>
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From:         Hasjim Williams <h.williams@STUDENT.QUT.EDU.AU>
Subject:      HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX Palmtops
In-Reply-To:  <14130.32998.233442.131401@asc.corp.mot.com>
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Current bid is US$12.  Closes May 12.

10 Available...

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 06:40:18 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: flexible pocket light
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Hi friends

> I didn't have that problem so don't know but a good modification
> is replacing the bulb with a white LED. Its brighter and you extend
> the battery life quite a bit.

QUITE A BIT???
I think you would extend battery life _much_!

GTX
daniel

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Daniel Hertrich
Germany
email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 03:01:43 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Liam asked "What benefits does AsEasyAs have over 1-2-3 ?"

The biggest benefit is that you can d/ld it and try it out before paying
for a license.  Can't do that with 1-2-3. AEA has some nicer graphing
capabilities but I don't think the newer versions will work on the Palmto=
p.
You'd have to look in Simtel for older DOS only versions of the program. =

ALITE, on the TRIUS site will give you a taste of AEA.

.ed.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:28:40 +0200
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Mmm, maybe a updated file should be sent to the SUPER site for later? I get
a CRC on:

RQ-150.GIF


br

Franklin

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 09:22:00 GMT
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Subject:      High RAM on the LX
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I installed EMS240 on my LX and I now have 1MB of EMS available. The EMS is reconized by DOS MEM and used by WordPerfect 5.1. I ran the QTest to figure out, if QRAM would work on the LX.

QRAM
Qram is the 8088/8086/80286/80186 version of Quarterdeck's QEMM386. If you have EMS on a PC, you can emulate High RAM. That means, that it would be possible to 'highload' some TSR's and drivers from config.sys and autoexec.bat.

There is a tool on simtel.net called qtest. It tests, if QRAM can emulate some high ram on your machine. I ran QTest on my LX and this is the result:

QTest tells me, that QRAM could create 64K High RAM in D000-DFFF. Unfortunately my QRAM-Disk is at home, not at office. This evening (swiss time) I will hardcore-test the QRAM.

(I know that some people think, that it is not possible to emulate high ram on the LX. But there are also people saying, that it is NEVER possible to use high ram on ANY 8088/8086/80186 ... ).

-goe-


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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 13:39:43 +0200
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              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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From:         Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
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> Has anyone tried to connect the REX pcmcia card to the LX? I'm thinking =
the
> TrueSync software should be able to read some format we could convert =
to
> (the Oulook converter perhaps???) and back, hopefully.
>
> Philippe :-)
>
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I would be very interesting to.

Michael Hansen

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 08:16:43 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: High RAM on the LX
Comments: To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch

> QRAM
> Qram is the 8088/8086/80286/80186 version of Quarterdeck's QEMM386. If you have EMS on a PC, you can emulate High RAM. That means, that it would be possible to 'highload' some TSR's and drivers from config.sys and autoexec.bat.
>

An excellant idea. Can the T2T drivers be loaded high?

John

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 08:20:41 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Announce: LXTCP 1.1 and PNR 3.1 released

Rod Whitby writes:
> I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.1 of LXTCP (the
> HP200LX TCP/IP Development Kit) and version 3.1 of PNR (the Palmtop
> New Reader).  Both programs are open-source freeware and can be used
> by anyone for anything (including commercial use).

Love the way you maimtain this program! Can LXNNTP handle multiple news servers?

John

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 08:18:11 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: flexible pocket light
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@gmx.de>

Daniel Hertrich writes:
> Hi friends
>
> > I didn't have that problem so don't know but a good modification
> > is replacing the bulb with a white LED. Its brighter and you extend
> > the battery life quite a bit.
>
> QUITE A BIT???
> I think you would extend battery life _much_!

It depends on what size of limiting resistor you use.

John

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 08:38:32 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-07 01:20am CDT, the following was written:

> Love the way you maimtain this program! Can LXNNTP handle multiple news servers?

Yes, it can.

Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 09:33:20 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX Palmtops
Comments: To: Hasjim Williams <h.williams@student.qut.edu.au>
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Hey, don't do this.  We are all members of eBay and get enough spam as a
result of that.  Advertise someplace else.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hasjim Williams ÝSMTP:h.williams@student.qut.edu.au¨
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 1:30 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX Palmtops
>
> Current bid is US$12.  Closes May 12.
>
> 10 Available...
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 09:51:07 -0500
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      Jpeg viewer for the 200LX  ??
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Is there a viewer for Jpeg images?

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:00:27 -0400
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Ignore dialtone command XJ2144?
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Hi All:

     Quick MODEM question: how do I set my XJ2144 to dial out without a
dialtone? I tried ATX3DT, but the MODEM doesn't dial out, just goes
online...I'm trying to set up my MODEM speaker to generate the tones
for a regular phone.

TIA

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:11:04 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX Palmtops
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Hey Phil & All:

01h29m34s ago ...
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Hey, don't do this.  We are all members of eBay and get enough spam as =
a
> result of that.  Advertise someplace else.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hasjim Williams ÝSMTP:h.williams@student.qut.edu.au¨
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 1:30 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject:      HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX =
Palmtops
> >
> > Current bid is US$12.  Closes May 12.
> >
> > 10 Available...

     I beg to differ. One of the purposes of this list is to help
people locate needed materials for their LX. I do not think is is
approiate to conduct an auction on the LIST, but this message was short
and to the point. Perhaps I should include another prefix to the LIST,
"FS:" (We have FLUFF: & WINCE: now) which would allow subscribers not
interested in these messages to not have them sent.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:22:20 -0400
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

     I have just added "FS" as a topic to the HPLX-L. You now have the
option of ignoring these meSages if you wish.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:22:07 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX Palmt
Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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On 05-07 10:11am CDT, the following was written:

> Perhaps I should include another prefix to the LIST,
> "FS:" (We have FLUFF: & WINCE: now) which would allow subscribers not
> interested in these messages to not have them sent.

Sounds good to me :)

Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:31:05 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Ignore dialtone command XJ2144?

Hi Al

>      Quick MODEM question: how do I set my XJ2144 to dial out without a
> dialtone? I tried ATX3DT, but the MODEM doesn't dial out, just goes
> online...I'm trying to set up my MODEM speaker to generate the tones
> for a regular phone.

You could try putting a @ in front of the at commands, i.e. @at&f

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:31:49 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Jpeg viewer for the 200LX  ??
Comments: To: speters@kdsi.net

LXPIC


Stan Peters writes:
> Is there a viewer for Jpeg images?
>
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>

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:32:44 -0400
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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01h17m13s ago ...
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Al Kind wrote:

     I should perhaps correct myself, while the original message was
"short & to the point", in keeping with LIST guidlines, it should have
been prefaced by "FS:".

Cheers...AJKind

> On Fri, 7 May 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:
>
>> Hey, don't do this.  We are all members of eBay and get enough spam as
>>a  result of that.  Advertise someplace else.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Hasjim Williams ÝSMTP:h.williams@student.qut.edu.au¨
>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 1:30 AM
>>> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>>> Subject:      HP 10 Pin PC Interface Cable for 100LX/200LX/700LX
>Palmtops
>>>
>>> Current bid is US$12.  Closes May 12.
>>>
>>> 10 Available...
>
>      I beg to differ. One of the purposes of this list is to help
> people locate needed materials for their LX. I do not think is is
> approiate to conduct an auction on the LIST, but this message was short
> and to the point. Perhaps I should include another prefix to the LIST,
> "FS:" (We have FLUFF: & WINCE: now) which would allow subscribers not
> interested in these messages to not have them sent.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:54:35 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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The HP 1000CX is a 200LX form unit that is identical to the
200LX in everyway, save one - the software bundle on the
200LX (Lotus 123, Pocket Quicken, etc.) is NOT included,
is has DOS 5.0 and a form of LapLink, thats it. As I understand
it, these were designed for vertical applications, where the
bundled 200LX software was not needed.

As for the PC110, it is a neat little 486SX/33 machine that
can run many OSs (like Win95/98/NT, Linux, OS/2, etc.).
It has a double PCMCIA adapter (2x Type II slots), a slot
for Compact Flash, a nice little color screen, and a REALLY
small keyboard! They are a bit pricey (for a complete set
including the needed docking station, floppy drive and
either a PCMCIA Type III HD or a BIG Compact Flash card
I paid just under $800). Nice, fun little machines, but
since the most useful applications involve moving parts
(the HD), battery life is *vastly* shorter than a 100/200LX.

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: New to list...


>Tell me more.  What is the 1000lx?  Is it basically a 200lx but in a
>laptop form factor???
>
>Also, if you wouldn't mind telling me off-list, I'd like to hear your
>impressions of the PC110.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:57:01 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: New to list...
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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There are no blue keys, which I assume you would use to
kick off the applications built-in to the 100/200LX...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: New to list...


>Are there any blue keys?

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:51:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: TOPIC "FS:"
Comments: To: "MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU" <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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I only intended to indicate that unsolicited advertisement is unappreciated.
If that kind of information had been offered as a solution or suggestion to
another user's problem or question, then it would be appropriate.  If you
let the advertisers begin using HPLX-L as a forum for advertisement then
HPLX-L will quickly begin to look like a usenews group.  Sorry if I acted
out of line, but I was interested in preserving something I like a great
deal.

Phil

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 09:21:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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From:         Tim Shephard <tim_shephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Ignore dialtone command XJ2144?
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Subject: Re: Ignore dialtone command XJ2144?


>>      Quick MODEM question: how do I set my XJ2144 to dial out without a
>> dialtone? I tried ATX3DT, but the MODEM doesn't dial out, just goes
>> online...I'm trying to set up my MODEM speaker to generate the tones
>> for a regular phone.


I think you just add X3 to the init string.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 12:35:19 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
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I apologize, but just as soon as I went through all the emails
from those interested in the 1000CXs I called my supplier
and someone had just bought out his entire inventory.

I apologize to those who had requested units, but I was
simply not quick enough to capture this good deal. Keep
your eyes open, I suspect the units I was going to buy will
be offered for sale soon by the person/company that beat
me to them...

Again, sorry for not being able to deliver to all those folks
that were interested.

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 09:53:01 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: "easy slide-in hotsync base" project report
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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As an alternative for those who don't have the Station 100, it would be
relatively inexpensive to build a wood version of that kind of "slide-in"
base. All that needs to be done is prop the connector so that by sliding the
LX between two runners, it connects perfectly. If anyone wants a more
detailed description, I'll post a diagram on the list.

I've done that kind of setup for recharging my cellphone, and it works
wonderfully!

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 8:31 PM
Subject: "easy slide-in hotsync base" project report


> Hi All,
>
>   I've discovered a problem that might prevent the "easy slide-in hotsync
> base" project from being a success. The stock A/C adapter plug will not
> fit into the Station 100 base adequately without a major alteration of
> the base, itself. The standard A/C plug's connector barrel is too short
> to protrude far enough through the appropriate hole in the Station 100
> base to allow a good connection with the HP200LX.
>
>   I had allegedly finished the construction phase of the hotsync base the
> other day and have been evaluating how well it actually handled
> frequently sliding the HP200LX in and out of the base on a daily basis.
> The slide-in hotsync base seemed to be working great ... until my
> batteries got low. Today I found the screen on my HP200LX off while it
> was plugged into the hotsync base. When I pushed the "on" button I got a
> quick "beep beep", after which the screen immediately turned off again.
>
>   I pulled the power plug out of the base and plugged it directly into my
> HP200LX. It then turned on with no problem, at all. The HP200LX's manual
> described this as a symptom of low batteries, so even though setup showed
> the main battery bar at half, I replaced the main batteries anyway. All
> is now fine again.
>
>   I'm assuming that my PCMCIA modem's inactive power load was enough to
> trigger that behavior when the main battery bar display in Setup dropped
> down to just half.
>
>   I'll put this project on a back burner for now, since my hotsyncs and
> backups are working fine right now without the base.
>
>   At a later date, I'll pull it out again and try shaving the holder and
> hole for the A/C power plug a little larger so the plug barrel can
> protrude a little further out of that hole. I just hope that base's plug
> holder will be able to grip a smaller portion of the plug well enough to
> still hold it firmly in place.
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 12:00:55 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Carrying the 200LX

I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.
I like the left breast shirt pocket. Which do others use?

John

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 09:56:24 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
Comments: To: Michael Hansen <handheld@post.cybercity.dk>
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Yes. I've often been in situations where I don't want to carry the palmtop
but still want to have some phone numbers or a to-do list. I usually end up
writing down the stuff on paper. So much for saving time and effort!

Anyone has a REX and an LX and would like to try some stuff on it?

Thanks,

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Hansen <handheld@post.cybercity.dk>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Fryday
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin


> Has anyone tried to connect the REX pcmcia card to the LX? I'm thinking
the
> TrueSync software should be able to read some format we could convert to
> (the Oulook converter perhaps???) and back, hopefully.
>
> Philippe :-)
>
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I would be very interesting to.

Michael Hansen

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 13:04:41 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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From:         "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I have the REX and a LX. I have not tried to use it in the LX because the
software is Windows/Win CE based. I use the Jornada 820 to sync data. It
would be nice to use the LX for quick syncs.


Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fryday ÝSMTP:fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:56
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
>
> Yes. I've often been in situations where I don't want to carry the palmtop
> but still want to have some phone numbers or a to-do list. I usually end
> up
> writing down the stuff on paper. So much for saving time and effort!
>
> Anyone has a REX and an LX and would like to try some stuff on it?
>

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:30 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
In-Reply-To:  <053a01be98aa$8a96bf30$9765140a@siebel.com> from Fryday at "May
              7, 99 09:56:24 am"
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I have to say, for phone numbers and appointments my Casio DataBank watch
is the most convenient IMHO.  It's tough and I never have to remember to
take it with me.  I only wish it had an IR link for loading and backups,
*that* would make it a fantastic companion to the LX (though, if Casio
ever *does* make an IR link, no doubt it won't talk to DOS) :-(

Casio has sorta taken a small step backwards lately though.  I'd like to
have one of the newer Indiglo watches, but it's larger, has a shorter text
field, and the biggest negative is lack of the password-protected data
area (excellent for keeping other passwords/alarm codes/SSN's/etc)

> Yes. I've often been in situations where I don't want to carry the palmtop
> but still want to have some phone numbers or a to-do list. I usually end up
> writing down the stuff on paper. So much for saving time and effort!

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:00:31 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
Comments: To: "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil>
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Any interest in trying to use the LX<=>Outlook stuff people have come up to
see if it'll do the job?

You could do something like:

Step 1 - Run the LX => Outlook program.
Step 2 - Run the starfish program to convert the Outlook stuff to REX
format.

Of course, this isn't automatic, but the main problem is: is it possible to
run the Starfish program on the LX. I'd guess not. Might be easier to just
write a little conversion program/script to move selected stuff from the LX
to the REX, like, say, all phone items with a field checked and all appt's
and todo's for the next week.

Anyone interested out there in trying to write a conversion program? I've
talked to people at Starfish and the were not very interested in sync'ing
with the LX -- even after I told them they were missing on a good sized
market. Perhaps if more of us do the same, they'd just spew something out or
allow one of us to hook up to their sync-ing mechanism.

Philippe :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: Souza, Mr Stephen <ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil>
To: 'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; 'Fryday'
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: REX from Starfish and Franklin


> I have the REX and a LX. I have not tried to use it in the LX because the
> software is Windows/Win CE based. I use the Jornada 820 to sync data. It
> would be nice to use the LX for quick syncs.
>
>
> Stephen Souza
> System Administrator
> COMNAVSURFLANT
> *TEL: (757) 836-3204
> *DSN:  836-3204
> *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fryday ÝSMTP:fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM¨
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:56
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
> >
> > Yes. I've often been in situations where I don't want to carry the
palmtop
> > but still want to have some phone numbers or a to-do list. I usually end
> > up
> > writing down the stuff on paper. So much for saving time and effort!
> >
> > Anyone has a REX and an LX and would like to try some stuff on it?
> >

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 14:06:34 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      X3 in MODEM init string
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Hi All:

     Well, It seems that ATX3DT works now...go figure!

Thanks,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 14:06:37 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TOPIC "FS:"
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Hey Phil

03h10m50s ago ...
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I only intended to indicate that unsolicited advertisement is unapprecia=
ted.
> If that kind of information had been offered as a solution or suggestion=
 to
> another user's problem or question, then it would be appropriate.  If =
you
> let the advertisers begin using HPLX-L as a forum for advertisement =
then
> HPLX-L will quickly begin to look like a usenews group.  Sorry if I =
acted
> out of line, but I was interested in preserving something I like a =
great
> deal.

     I see your point. I will enforce the "FS" so the LIST doesn't turn
into a "ITEMS for SALE" SPAM conduit. Your message was good in that it
raised the issue that all of us are not particularly interested in "FS"
posts, and that modifications could be made to keep everybody happy (I
hope).

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 20:15:46 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: Jpeg viewer for the 200LX  ??
In-Reply-To:  <3732FDDA.38BEF770@kdsi.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 7 May 1999, Stan Peters wrote:

> Is there a viewer for Jpeg images?

As already mentioned, LXPic from http://peichl.hplx.net handles most JPEG
images.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 14:11:55 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Opps! A clarification is in order

Hi All,

  Here is a clip of my post that actually needs some clarification:

---
  I'm more than willing to listen to one short ad to get a free 2 minute
call to exchange email with Palmtop.com. :-) That would give you
approximately 2 free connects per day.
---

  That freeway free long distance service will sound a beep (heard only
by you) when only 30 seconds is left of your free call. It's purpose is
to serve as a gentle reminder that your time will be up in 30 seconds and
to start wrapping up your conversation.

  I would suppose that the "friendly" beep could corrupt a data transfer
if the transfer takes that long, so I'd recommend listening to 2 little
ads instead of one before completing your call to Palmtop.com. The extra
unused minutes would then be credited back to your account, thus not
costing any more minutes than the other way, and you would prevent that
"friendly" beep from sounding before the exchange is completed. :-)

  Now all I have to do is get this modem to work with palmtop.com... :-(

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 14:34:36 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      HP95 storage media

I just purchased a 512k 95LX (on the way) and would like to find storage
media for it. I have some type I flash cards but I seem to recall that the
95LX is verrry limited in what it can use. Can anyone point me to a source
for pcmcia storage cards for the 95lx?

thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:43:52 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
Comments: To: Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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On Fri, 7 May 1999 12:35:19 -0400, Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> I apologize, but just as soon as I went through all the emails
> from those interested in the 1000CXs I called my supplier
> and someone had just bought out his entire inventory.
>
> I apologize to those who had requested units, but I was
> simply not quick enough to capture this good deal. Keep
> your eyes open, I suspect the units I was going to buy will
> be offered for sale soon by the person/company that beat
> me to them...
>
> Again, sorry for not being able to deliver to all those folks
> that were interested.

Thanks anyway and good looking out. You can bet they'll turn up sooner
or later at double the price. and thats sad. (:-(

The world has gone to hell in a hand basket for the oh might dollar.

example: Gas prices here in Las Vegas $1.69 a gallon.

Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 13:06:09 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, hart@CATHOLIC.ORG
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From:         David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
Subject:      Free web-based document site

Just saw on the PDA Dash website that a company is offering 20M
free file space on the Web. Company is http://www.mydocsonline.com .
Whether this will work with WWW/LX or Netamer is anybody's guess.
The FAQ on the site says:

What do I need to access My Docs Online?

You can access your My Docs Online! account using any Internet
browser supporting file upload. We've verified the performance of
My Docs Online! on the following configurations:

Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 or newer
Netscape Navigator 3.0.2 or newer
Netscape Communicator 4.0 or newer

Some early versions versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer 3 do
not support file upload. If the "Browse" button does not appear on
the "Upload" screen, you need to install a newer version of your
browser.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 20:31:45 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      PE and POST/LX
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Hi friends,

I'm using PE now for editing new emails that I want to
send via POST/LX.

If I remember right, there was the possibility to not only
open the temporary post file but additionally open the
header file as second file in PE.

Can anyone say me the paramters I must enter in
the POST.CFG file?

And: Is there a way to switch off all these messages in PE like
"really quit PE?" etc.?

TNX daniel

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Daniel Hertrich
Germany
email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 13:33:24 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> The world has gone to hell in a hand basket for the oh might dollar.
>
> example: Gas prices here in Las Vegas $1.69 a gallon.

Feel lucky.  I just paid $1.94/gal here in Silicon Valley.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 11:43:58 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      40MB flashcards going for $129.00
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Just found this post 40MB flashcards going for $129.00.

You know the drill, so if your in the market for one better jump on it
quick.

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From: "Fox Thomas" <fox_thomas@bah.com>
To: "Windows CE Talk List" <windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
Subject: Ýwindowsce-talk¨ CHEAP 40mb Flash card
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:43:52 -0400

I just discovered a Sandisk 40mb Flashcard for $129 at the following URL:

http://www.bigcityexpress.com/888-243-2489/KEN-42501.html

I paid nearly that much for each of 15 and 16 MB flashcards!!

Good luck!!
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 21:08:49 GMT
Reply-To:     neil@skipper.demon.co.uk
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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
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On Fri, 7 May 1999 13:33:24 -0700, Bill Childers wrote:

>> example: Gas prices here in Las Vegas $1.69 a gallon.
>
>Feel lucky.  I just paid $1.94/gal here in Silicon Valley.

Try $5.60 here in the UK (although our gallon *is* slightly larger).

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 14:29:53 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Oops, I intended to edit out the list from that last message but my wife
walked in and I was so taken aback by her beauty that I forgot.. <g>

Um, LX related... Hmm  Ah!  The 1000CX thread:  From what I can tell, the
1000CX is a bit of a mix - it has 200LX guts (less PIMs) but a 100LX case!

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 16:33:12 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Fluff: Encryption for 200lx

The Counterpane website (http://www.counterpane.com) and the new novel,
Cryptonomicon contain a cryptosystem based on the shuffling of a deck of
ordinary playing cards.  It is intended to be a cryptosystem for use when
computers aren't available or would be too conspicuous.

Counterpane has source for a simple encryption program using this system
(Solitaire) in Perl.  It is TINY and very fast.  I've not tinkered much
with it but it seems it could easily be either converted to C or assembly
or, less optimally, made an .exe with perl2exe.

Any programmers out there want to give it a shot???

Larry Zimmerman




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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 23:37:49 +0200
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              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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From:         Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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I will even pay money for this tool!

REX-pro <--> LX - via PCMCIA
GREAT!!

Michael Hansen
Denmark


> Any interest in trying to use the LX<=3D>Outlook stuff people have come =
up to
> see if it'll do the job?
>
> You could do something like:
>
> Step 1 - Run the LX =3D> Outlook program.
> Step 2 - Run the starfish program to convert the Outlook stuff to REX
> format.
>
> Of course, this isn't automatic, but the main problem is: is it possible=
 to
> run the Starfish program on the LX. I'd guess not. Might be easier to =
just
> write a little conversion program/script to move selected stuff from =
the LX
> to the REX, like, say, all phone items with a field checked and all =
appt's
> and todo's for the next week.
>
> Anyone interested out there in trying to write a conversion program? =
I've
> talked to people at Starfish and the were not very interested in =
sync'ing
> with the LX -- even after I told them they were missing on a good sized
> market. Perhaps if more of us do the same, they'd just spew something =
out or
> allow one of us to hook up to their sync-ing mechanism.
>
> Philippe :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Souza, Mr Stephen <ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil>
> To: 'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; 'Fryday'
> <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 10:04 AM
> Subject: RE: REX from Starfish and Franklin
>
> > I have the REX and a LX. I have not tried to use it in the LX because =
the
> > software is Windows/Win CE based. I use the Jornada 820 to sync data. =
It
> > would be nice to use the LX for quick syncs.
> >
> >
> > Stephen Souza
> > System Administrator
> > COMNAVSURFLANT
> > *TEL: (757) 836-3204
> > *DSN:  836-3204
> > *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fryday ÝSMTP:fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM¨
> > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:56
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > > Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
> > >
> > > Yes. I've often been in situations where I don't want to carry the
> palmtop
> > > but still want to have some phone numbers or a to-do list. I =
usually end
> > > up
> > > writing down the stuff on paper. So much for saving time and =
effort!
> > >
> > > Anyone has a REX and an LX and would like to try some stuff on it?
> > >
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 16:53:39 -0500
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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From:         "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
Subject:      OT: Re: Fluff: Encryption for 200lx
Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <19990507.163312.6366.0.zimm4@juno.com>; from Larry N Zimmerman
              on Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:33:12PM -0500
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On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:33:12PM -0500, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:
> The Counterpane website (http://www.counterpane.com) and the new novel,
> Cryptonomicon contain a cryptosystem based on the shuffling of a deck of
> ordinary playing cards.  It is intended to be a cryptosystem for use when
> computers aren't available or would be too conspicuous.
>
> Counterpane has source for a simple encryption program using this system
> (Solitaire) in Perl.  It is TINY and very fast.  I've not tinkered much
> with it but it seems it could easily be either converted to C or assembly
> or, less optimally, made an .exe with perl2exe.
>
> Any programmers out there want to give it a shot???

Totally not LX related, but check out http://www.passlogix.com

--francois

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 22:42:06 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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John Musielewicz wrote

>I didn't have that problem so don't know but a good modification
>is replacing the bulb with a white LED. Its brighter and you extend
>the battery life quite a bit.

I don't think this will work. In my experience (and I have tried this) the
white LEDs need around 3.5V to turn them on, yet the flexible pocket light
only supplies 3V (2.4V in NiMH/NiCd)

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 14:51:09 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
Comments: To: Michael Hansen <handheld@post.cybercity.dk>
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Yes! I would definitely pay for it (up to, say, 50$) and then buy a REX!

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Hansen <handheld@post.cybercity.dk>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Fryday
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin


I will even pay money for this tool!

REX-pro <--> LX - via PCMCIA
GREAT!!

Michael Hansen
Denmark


> Any interest in trying to use the LX<=>Outlook stuff people have come up
to
> see if it'll do the job?
>
> You could do something like:
>
> Step 1 - Run the LX => Outlook program.
> Step 2 - Run the starfish program to convert the Outlook stuff to REX
> format.
>
> Of course, this isn't automatic, but the main problem is: is it possible
to
> run the Starfish program on the LX. I'd guess not. Might be easier to just
> write a little conversion program/script to move selected stuff from the
LX
> to the REX, like, say, all phone items with a field checked and all appt's
> and todo's for the next week.
>
> Anyone interested out there in trying to write a conversion program? I've
> talked to people at Starfish and the were not very interested in sync'ing
> with the LX -- even after I told them they were missing on a good sized
> market. Perhaps if more of us do the same, they'd just spew something out
or
> allow one of us to hook up to their sync-ing mechanism.
>
> Philippe :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Souza, Mr Stephen <ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil>
> To: 'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; 'Fryday'
> <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 10:04 AM
> Subject: RE: REX from Starfish and Franklin
>
> > I have the REX and a LX. I have not tried to use it in the LX because
the
> > software is Windows/Win CE based. I use the Jornada 820 to sync data. It
> > would be nice to use the LX for quick syncs.
> >
> >
> > Stephen Souza
> > System Administrator
> > COMNAVSURFLANT
> > *TEL: (757) 836-3204
> > *DSN:  836-3204
> > *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fryday ÝSMTP:fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM¨
> > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:56
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > > Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
> > >
> > > Yes. I've often been in situations where I don't want to carry the
> palmtop
> > > but still want to have some phone numbers or a to-do list. I usually
end
> > > up
> > > writing down the stuff on paper. So much for saving time and effort!
> > >
> > > Anyone has a REX and an LX and would like to try some stuff on it?
> > >
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 17:11:30 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: flexible pocket light

Laurence Harvey writes:
> John Musielewicz wrote
>
> >I didn't have that problem so don't know but a good modification
> >is replacing the bulb with a white LED. Its brighter and you extend
> >the battery life quite a bit.
>
> I don't think this will work. In my experience (and I have tried this) the
> white LEDs need around 3.5V to turn them on, yet the flexible pocket light
> only supplies 3V (2.4V in NiMH/NiCd)

It depends. They run from 1.7 to 5.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 15:34:35 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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REX'es are being sold on EBay for around 80$, I'm guessing. Retail is about
120$.

It would be a good addition to the LX combo!

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 15:50:26 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      TruSync Accessor
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Dear Starfish Customer Service,

I am a member of die hard HP200LX users. We recently came by your product,
the REX Organizer/TrueSync Plus and were absolutely amazed by its quality
and number of features. Reading through your website, I came across the
"Add-Ons" page, which talks about additional TrueSync Accessors. Noticing
that there are no accessor for the HP200LX built-in applications, a few
questions came to mind:

a) Will there ever be an accessor written for the HP200LX?
b) If not, how could someone -- working hand in hand with Starfish -- write
such an accessor?

Although it may not be obvious to the general public, the HP200LX followers
are numerous and extremely knowledgeable in the high tech industry. No doubt
that an accessor for the HP200LX would be viewed in a most favorable way and
open your product to a new market.

Best regards,

Philippe Lewis


Software Engineer
Siebel Systems Inc.
Phone 510-594-6367
Pager 415-208-2937
Fax 510-594-6126
1900 Powell Street
Emeryville, CA 94608-1811

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 19:04:45 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin
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Is the REX interface documented well enough for someone
(else - I am not a programmer) to develop toward? I would
think what is needed would be a program to shove certain
"well-defined" formatted files into the REX, then you would
simply need to develop to that interface...

Anyone know if the info is available?

Thanks,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>


I will even pay money for this tool!

REX-pro <--> LX - via PCMCIA
GREAT!!

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 18:59:44 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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I thought the 1000CX simply lacked the bundled apps. - what
is the case difference between a 100LX and a 200LX? I've
not seen this mentioned in any of the FAQs/web pages I've
seen so far...

Thanks,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 5:31 PM
Subject: Oops, sorry..


>Oops, I intended to edit out the list from that last message but my wife
>walked in and I was so taken aback by her beauty that I forgot.. <g>
>
>Um, LX related... Hmm  Ah!  The 1000CX thread:  From what I can tell, the
>1000CX is a bit of a mix - it has 200LX guts (less PIMs) but a 100LX case!
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 17:23:51 -0700
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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: 40MB flashcards going for $129.00
Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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48mb cf at buy.com for 119.00

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Jones Jr Ýmailto:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 11:44 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 40MB flashcards going for $129.00
>
>
> Just found this post 40MB flashcards going for $129.00.
>
> You know the drill, so if your in the market for one better jump on it
> quick.
>
> ***
> From: "Fox Thomas" <fox_thomas@bah.com>
> To: "Windows CE Talk List" <windowsce-talk@lists.hpc.net>
> Subject: Ýwindowsce-talk¨ CHEAP 40mb Flash card
> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:43:52 -0400
>
> I just discovered a Sandisk 40mb Flashcard for $129 at the
> following URL:
>
http://www.bigcityexpress.com/888-243-2489/KEN-42501.html

I paid nearly that much for each of 15 and 16 MB flashcards!!

Good luck!!
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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 19:07:09 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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The 100LX is black, I don't think any of the 200LX's are...

> I thought the 1000CX simply lacked the bundled apps. - what
> is the case difference between a 100LX and a 200LX? I've
> not seen this mentioned in any of the FAQs/web pages I've
> seen so far...

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 12:48:03 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Hi,
I'm not sure I understand corectly.
Is it we can't use the list for selling any LX related item?
if so, I will miss it, because I like to know when some one is selling some
thing.
regards
Alain
> I only intended to indicate that unsolicited advertisement is unappreciated.
> If that kind of information had been offered as a solution or suggestion to
> another user's problem or question, then it would be appropriate.  If you
> let the advertisers begin using HPLX-L as a forum for advertisement then
> HPLX-L will quickly begin to look like a usenews group.  Sorry if I acted
> out of line, but I was interested in preserving something I like a great
> deal.
>
> Phil
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX
Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net

   >I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.


I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list,
is it ?? :)

nancy


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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 11:19:54 -0700
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From:         Ripin Pen <ripin@DNET.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: PNR / Lxtcp

John, thanks for giving a tip.  I recheck my wattcp and particularly the smtp
server.  I have "smtp.dnet.net.id" (as what my Internet provider told me).
This is same server I put in my desktop running Netscape which is running
fine in sending mails.
Anyway I changed to "mail.dnet.net.id" and whoops I finally DID it.
BTW I am using PNR 3.0.

Regards.
Ripin


John Musielewicz writes:
> Are you using the newest version which was just posted? I haven't gotten it
> yet so can't comment on it but on version 1.0 and earlier either the mail
> server is not set up right in the wattcp.cfg or the spool directories do not
> match in pnr.cfg and th wattcp.cfg. I had the same problem and my spool directory
> was wrong in the wattcp.cfg. I suspect the mail server is ok since you can
> download messages.
>
> John

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 21:22:02 -0700
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On Fri, 7 May 1999, Nancy A. Barker wrote:

> I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list, is it ?? :)

I hope not.  I frequently get mocked my insensitive people who think the
laptop carrying bag I use is a purse.  On the other hand, it's got my
200LX, all its cards, my 320LX (yuck), wireless modem, 48GX calculator,
TI-85 calculator, DC20 digital camera, cables, and (soon) cell phone in
it, so it's worth it.  <g>

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I have a REX-3. If anyone were up for trying to write the necessary sync
software, I would be glad to loan it to them.

Dennis

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 00:01:23 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX
Comments: To: nancyb@BEST.COM

Nancy A. Barker writes:
>    >I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.
>
>
> I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list,
> is it ?? :)
>

Oh I donno, women use pockets for stuff too don't they?<g>

John

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 13:04:32 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Just curious - why the 48GX _and_ TI-85 in addition to the 200LX? Any
particular features in these two calculators that you normally use that is
not found in the 200LX and the available add-in software?

At 09:22 PM 07-05-1999 Friday -0700, you wrote:
>On Fri, 7 May 1999, Nancy A. Barker wrote:
>
>> I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list, is it ?? :)
>
>I hope not.  I frequently get mocked my insensitive people who think the
>laptop carrying bag I use is a purse.  On the other hand, it's got my
>200LX, all its cards, my 320LX (yuck), wireless modem, 48GX calculator,
>TI-85 calculator, DC20 digital camera, cables, and (soon) cell phone in
>it, so it's worth it.  <g>
>
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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 08:35:07 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> If I remember right, there was the possibility to not only
> open the temporary post file but additionally open the
> header file as second file in PE.

Use

Editor=c:\bin\pe.exe $f $h

(or whatever the path is).

> And: Is there a way to switch off all these messages in PE like
> "really quit PE?" etc.?

Try

Clog=0

in the ÝFile¨ section of PE.CFG.

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 23:33:52 +800
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              Gary Jacek <Gary_Jacek@BC.SYMPATICO.CA>
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On 1999-05-07 a123456@bitstream.net said:
   >I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.
   >I like the left breast shirt pocket. Which do others use?
   >John

-decloaking-

I usually wear MEC (Mountain Equipment Coop) Guide Pants which have
a velcro'd pocket midway between hip and knee on the outside of the
right leg.  Perfect size for a 200LX.  Allows for quick draws in
PDA firefights too. ;-)

You can request a free MEC catalog at www.mec.ca.
And since it is a Coop and I am a member, that means I do
have a -very small- financial interest here.  About $5CA.

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 00:18:54 -0700
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hi all!  I feel silly for asking this, but tho I thought I saw
the setting somewhere before, I can't find it now.  Is there
a way to turn off the text (i.e. My name, address, date and time)
that overlays itself on the topcard?  I thought there was, but
maybe I was just thinking of the fact that you can turn the topcard
picture off.  I want the picture, without the text it is overlaying
there.  If there is a way to do this please let me know.  Thanks!

Brian S
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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My c:_dat/icon.lzh file is getting larger and larger.  Is it better to just
keep one big icon.lzh file or have X-finder search in multiple smaller
files?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 00:32:28 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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If I remember correctly, just use a file not named topcard and the text will not
be displayed over it.

Dan Carrington



Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Hi all!  I feel silly for asking this, but tho I thought I saw
> the setting somewhere before, I can't find it now.  Is there
> a way to turn off the text (i.e. My name, address, date and time)
> that overlays itself on the topcard?  I thought there was, but
> maybe I was just thinking of the fact that you can turn the topcard
> picture off.  I want the picture, without the text it is overlaying
> there.  If there is a way to do this please let me know.  Thanks!
>
> Brian S
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 04:01:58 -0400
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David and all,

there is no access to the newsserver of HPLX.NET since more
than one week.

The error messages in Post/LX say either

- newsserver denied access or

- no HP200.GENERAL newsgroup on this newsserver

Any problems ?


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 04:01:55 -0400
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Daniel,

> I'm using PE now for editing new emails that I want to
> send via POST/LX.

Good coice.

> If I remember right, there was the possibility to not only
> open the temporary post file but additionally open the
> header file as second file in PE.

You can switch between the currently open file and the
previous file by pressing F7. Or just use
Menu|File|Open|Arrow and pick from the list of lastly opened
files. If that does not answer your question look in the
docs.

> Can anyone say me the paramters I must enter in
> the POST.CFG file?

Edit PE.CFG - it is self explaining.

> And: Is there a way to switch off all these messages in PE like
> "really quit PE?" etc.?

NoBanner prevents the greeting message. Walk through PE.CFG
and you should find other switches which you might want to
change. As I said it's pretty self explanatory.


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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 11:44:29 +0200
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              Stefan Haake <roos.stefan@WXS.NL>
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Dear Listmembers,
I am following this list with great
pleasure for
some jears now although not
contributing much.

As it is part of my daily routine to go
through
the messages it has bekome a important
part
of relaxation for me.
For this the list is part of my
family-life.

So I am proud to announce to you all:

I have bekome father for the first time
(only genetically speaking!). I already
had
two girls for free (aged 6 and 16)
when I met the love of my life.

Eva was born on 2.5.99 at 1.15 in the
morning,
we all are doing very well although not
sleeping
much.

Greetings from Holland

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 20:38:42 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Encryption for 200lx

On Fri, 7 May 1999 16:53:39 -0500 "Blah...Just Blah.."
<matrix@skyshot.poly.edu> writes:
>
>Totally not LX related, but check out http://www.passlogix.com
>
>--francois
>

Interesting but . . .

1) only does passwords rather than actual encryption of files,
2) no real information on what algorithm they rely on and how they
implement it,
3) no real information on their "credentials" in the encryption field,
4) costs money,
5) doesn't run on the HP200lx.

Solitaire on the other hand (counterpane.com) is . . .

1) total file encryption,
2) fully disclosed and subject to heated and hostile ongoing attacks on
its security,
3) created by one of the most capable civilian cryptographers around,
4) free for any use,
5) could easily be made to run on the HP200lx with VERY small size and
quick performance.

That is why I'm interested in seeing it turned from Perl to C.  Heck, law
school finals ended today, maybe I'll look at it myself.

Larry Zimmerman



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Philippe,

I recall that the LX<->REX issue was discussed extensively on the HPHAND
forum on CSi several months ago.  Even then, when the LX market was large=
r,
Starfish was not interested in getting the machines to work together.  I
also recall that someone else started to work on a synching program. Coul=
d
it have been Mack Bagette? The thread dwindled away to nothing after a
month or so. I still think it's worth exploring.

.ed.

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 09:38:31 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat,  8 May 1999 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Terry-

How large is large??  I have 90 icons in my icon.lzh file and have no
problems.  I think it can probably use over 200...  Not sure, though.
I do also have a fair-size iconfld.lzh, and a small secondary icon.lzh
in a:\_dat  I'm not sure if XF can use more than 2 archives each for =
icons
and folder icons.  (Guess I should Re-RTFM  8-)  )

HTH

-Peniel
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06h08m07s ago ...
On Sat,  8 May 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> My c:_dat/icon.lzh file is getting larger and larger.  Is it better to =
just
> keep one big icon.lzh file or have X-finder search in multiple smaller
> files?

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 12:54:40 +0200
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>> The world has gone to hell in a hand basket for the oh might dollar.
>>
>> example: Gas prices here in Las Vegas $1.69 a gallon.

>Feel lucky.  I just paid $1.94/gal here in Silicon Valley.



Hey, I pay CHF 1.70 for 1 LITER here in Switzerland! That is about $2 ...

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 10:22:10 -0400
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I use a black Franklin planner "bag" I bought from their store that has
a pocket for a PDA inside a large zippered pocket. I carry my HP48GX my
200LX and my power adapter along with serial cable, pliers/wire cutters,
a screwdriver, wiring terminal removal tools, and several eeproms with
engine control software. I have gotten the "Nice purse!" remark from
some of the mechanics but it doesn't bother me. It's just a handled bag
that makes it convenient to carry with me the tools I use most.

Dave Zelkowski
DaimlerChrysler

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 10:37:59 -0400
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Sat,  8 May 1999 10:33:10 -0400 (EDT)

This bounced when sent directly to Don...

07h53m18s ago ...
On Sat,  8 May 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> I didn't recognize the name "BSE."  I assume it is the manufacturer.  =
What
> does it stand for?  What model number?
>
> Any idea where I can get one?

Hi-

BSE is probably the manufacturer.  It came in a card-pack (like
RadioShack components) with very short instructions on the back of the
card.  No other info included.  Label just says "BSE Serial Port -
General purpose Serial to Parallel Convertor".  Haven't seen it
advertised for a long time.  Mine was from the late EduCalc.  ACE
Technology (sadly also gone now) also sold what appeared to be the same
device.  The only S-P convertors I see advertised now are 2 models from
Greenwich (for the palmtops), and some generic convertors that will
need adaptors to connect to the HP cable.

Sorry, not much help, I guess...

-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 10:38:04 -0400
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Sat,  8 May 1999 10:35:26 -0400 (EDT)

This one also bounced when sent to Andy...

03h16m52s ago ...
On Sat,  8 May 1999, Andy wrote:

> But, probably does not give you POP...?

Correct

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 11:05:17 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Anand,

The HP 48 is a tool for scientists, engineers, mathematicians.  The Calc
engine in the LX is the equivalent of the HP 19 IIB business calculator.
Reading about the HP 48 is misleading.  They don't tell you that you need=

at least 4 PhD degrees to be able to appreciate what it can do (just my w=
ay
of saying that it is one power-packed tool).

.ed.

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Hi All:

03h24m25s ago ...
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Alain wrote:

     We are a diverse group, with different expectations from this
LIST. The "old pros" are not always interested in "fluff", "WinCE", or
"FS" unless they are in the market. This LIST is very busy, and some
people find it useful to cut some of the topics, to save
time/diskspace/etc... On the other hand, those who just got their LX
yesterday, are probably interested in everything.

I have tried to avoid having too many TOPICS as it would make posting
messages to HPLX-L too complicated, but if you have suggestions, let me
know.


> Hi,
> I'm not sure I understand corectly.
> Is it we can't use the list for selling any LX related item?
> if so, I will miss it, because I like to know when some one is selling =
some
> thing.
> regards
> Alain
>
> > I only intended to indicate that unsolicited advertisement is unapprec=
iated.
> > If that kind of information had been offered as a solution or suggesti=
on to
> > another user's problem or question, then it would be appropriate...
> > Phil

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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      TOPICs

My pal al.....

As a diverse group, with different expectations
on this LIST.  Let all have their say.
Use the subject to announce the topic and those
that don't be innerested don't read it.

Some people are interested with fluff
and some people are looking for bargans.

So let there be fluff and stuff.
and "cut some of the topics, " you
don't wanna read and let the newbies be
interested in everything.
>
yor pal al.................

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 08:39:29 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hmmmm.... I thought I posted it but it did not seem to take...

So here goes again: Updated the Webpage at http://www.dasoft.com. Post/LX is
now in version 2.3c. Other stuff too - click on the date to see the news...

Thanks.

 Avi Meshar
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 http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 08:59:19 -0700
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On Sat, 8 May 1999 00:18:54 -0700, Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

> Hi all!  I feel silly for asking this, but tho I thought I saw
> the setting somewhere before, I can't find it now.  Is there
> a way to turn off the text (i.e. My name, address, date and time)
> that overlays itself on the topcard?  I thought there was, but
> maybe I was just thinking of the fact that you can turn the topcard
> picture off.  I want the picture, without the text it is overlaying
> there.  If there is a way to do this please let me know.  Thanks!

Hi Brian and List Members

I have a modified 200LX topcard without the text. If you would like a copy let
me know or you can go into Setup, Owner and just delete your Name etc.


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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      HP 48 verses the 200LX

What can the 48 do that the 200LX can't if the 200 is loaded with
Derive?

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 16:23:45 +0000
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>    >I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.
>
> I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list,
> is it ?? :)

I sure hope not as I carry mine in my breast pocket of my sports jacket.
And I change between left and right periodically.

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> I have a REX-3. If anyone were up for trying to write the necessary sync
> software, I would be glad to loan it to them.

I thought Mack (TimesTech) did at least a cursory examination of the
concept.

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Congratulations.  Play her a lullaby on the 200! (G)

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 12:11:37 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Topcards & Text

Qman
>I have a modified 200LX topcard without the text.
>If you would like a copy let me know or you can

>go into Setup, Owner and just delete your Name etc.

 This proc leaves a blank rectangle with the date and time.

yor pal al...................

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On Sat, 8 May 1999 12:11:37 -0500, Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Qman
> >I have a modified 200LX topcard without the text.
> >If you would like a copy let me know or you can
>
> >go into Setup, Owner and just delete your Name etc.
>
>  This proc leaves a blank rectangle with the date and time.
>
> yor pal al...................

Ok I see, then just copy the topcard from d:\_sys to c:\. then you'll
have a topcard with the blank rectangle with no date/time.

What I did was use Paint Shop Pro. to cut&paste and fill the rectangle with
"200LX".



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On Sat, 8 May 1999 12:11:37 -0500, Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Qman
> >I have a modified 200LX topcard without the text.
> >If you would like a copy let me know or you can
>
> >go into Setup, Owner and just delete your Name etc.
>
>  This proc leaves a blank rectangle with the date and time.
>
> yor pal al...................

Ok I see, then just copy the topcard from d:\_sys to c:\. then you'll
have a topcard with the blank rectangle with no date/time.

Then in setup, owner, picture select the topcard thats in the c:\
directory.

What I did was use Paint Shop Pro. to cut&paste and fill the rectangle with
"200LX".



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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 14:23:23 -0400
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM>
Subject:      PalEdit & SED & TREX
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I stumbled over my hardcopy of PE.DOC today and after reading
it I decided to use PE as my editor on palmi (and therefore
deleted WORD 5.5).

Now I'm looking for the SED and TREX programs in order to use
the built in filter functions of PE. I was searching HPHAND,
GERINT, SIMTEL etc without success.

Can sombody point me to the right URL or send me a copy of the
files.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Subject:      Re: Topcards & Text
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> Brian Sugita wrote:
> >
> > Hi all!  I feel silly for asking this, but tho I thought I saw
> > the setting somewhere before, I can't find it now.

More|Menu|Config|Options|Owner

There is a toggle to check Topcard on/off


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 21:04:43 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 8 May 1999, Hans Peter Staber wrote:


> Can sombody point me to the right URL or send me a copy of the
> files.

Both SED and Trex can be found on SUPER (www.palmtop.net). IIRC Trex is
not a program on its own but part of Vertical Reader.


Try this link:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/sup-srch.pl?
search_phrase=stream+paperback&method=words&boolean=or

(all on one line)


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On Sat, 8 May 1999 14:23:23 -0400, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM> wrote:

> I stumbled over my hardcopy of PE.DOC today and after reading
> it I decided to use PE as my editor on palmi (and therefore
> deleted WORD 5.5).
>
> Now I'm looking for the SED and TREX programs in order to use
> the built in filter functions of PE. I was searching HPHAND,
> GERINT, SIMTEL etc without success.
>
> Can sombody point me to the right URL or send me a copy of the
> files.
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg

Both SED and TREX can be downloaded form The SUPER Site. TREX is
included in the Vertical Reader zip.

HTH

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 12:37:25 -0700
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Just found this post on the Palmtop-HP newsgroup. It was news to me so I
thought I'd pass it on.

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Barry Marks" <barry@fbtc.net>
Subject: Re: help? 95LX Connectivity Software
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 09:29:46 -0500

Iden Rosenthal wrote in message <3xOY2.2302$IE2.79038@news15.ispnews.com>...
>My boss gave me his old "outdated" 95LX with all the cables and manuals for
>connectivity but no software. Can anyone direct me or send me a zip of just
>the connectivity part that works from within the filer???

That didn't come with the computer.  There was a connectivity kit for $100.
The only software that came with the 95lx was built in.  That was in the
early days of PDA's.  The connectivity kit software doesn't work well with
Win95.

Hyperterminal Private Edition works very well for transferring files.
That's a free upgrade of the Hyperterminal shipped with Win95/98.  You can
download it from www.hilgraeve.com.  There's a bug in the kermit of the one
that ships with Win95 and this fixes the bug and adds some good features.

Barry




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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 12:37:27 -0700
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Also just found this post on a 2MB 200LX for sale/trade if anybody is
interested.

Good Luck!

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Flash" <aflash1@sd.cybernex.net>
Subject: FS: HP200LX 2MB
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 07:31:10 -0600

For sale or trade: HP200LX 2MB.  Works perfectly.  A new one is $425.  Most
auctions are selling them for about $225.  Trying for $175-$200 or trade for
PC stuff equal value.  Comes with manual.




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Qman...

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hi all.  i know this is a topic often discussed, but forgive
my lapse of memory.

does anyone have the max current that a pcmcia modem can draw
on the hp200lx?

thanks.

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Subject:      hard freecell game

Try game 357205!

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Hi all

Tamas Feher found this site.Thx Tamas  :)

My question is has anyone tried any OS other than DOS 5.0 on their LX the
way described?
How can I tell if my HP 10Meg flashcard is able to be made bootable?
Are there any dangers with attempting to do this?

Any other comments?
TIA

Russell


There is a webpage at <www.erols.com/rld> by Rich L. Dubs, which deals with
how to install a NATIVE version of Minix on the palmtop (vs.
DOS-serviced Minix favored by Mack Bagette and others). It's a pretty
convoluted reading..., but:

The included ZIP archive on that website contains a specially modified WINI
version for 100/200LX. This program has nothing to do with Microsoft, but it
allows you to use DOS as a shoelace; to load other OS (like Linux, OS/2,
other DOS, etc.) on top of itself and then get rid of DOS. In the end you
will have native Minix / DRDOS6.0 / MS-DOS622 on your palmtop running as it
should.

Thus, it is indeed possible to use any version of DOS on the 200LX, not just
MS-DOS 5.0. I have no idea, why this has never been tried! I use WINI on my
desktop IBM PC/XT and it work flawlessly. IMO it'd be about 2 hours of work
to test booting other DOS on HPLX.

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The slot puts out a max of 150ma...tho I know of a few modems that push past
that a bit, but there's supposed to be a danger in overheating once you push
past the 150ma.

- Longden





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hi all.  i know this is a topic often discussed, but forgive
my lapse of memory.

does anyone have the max current that a pcmcia modem can draw
on the hp200lx?

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I have the connectivity software called station 95.smartcom.
I bought it way back when I had the HP 95. My house was vandalized and I =
was left with the station 95
I the bought the HP200  called educalc to find out that they would not =
take it back.
any you have for a trade?
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In a message dated 5/8/1999 12:03:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
nancyb@BEST.COM writes:

> I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list,
>  is it ?? :)
>
Nancy,

Wouldn't that be a Pocket Book?

Lynn

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In a message dated 5/8/1999 05:44:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
roos.stefan@WXS.NL writes:

> Eva was born on 2.5.99 at 1.15 in the morning,
>  we all are doing very well although not sleeping much.
>

Congratulations!  When does Eva get her own 200LX?  If its soon, she'll think
its full size!

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> > Eva was born on 2.5.99 at 1.15 in the morning,
> >  we all are doing very well although not sleeping much.

> Congratulations!  When does Eva get her own 200LX?  If its soon, she'll
think
> its full size!

Congratulations!  I think a 1 MB HP 200LX would be good to start her out on
and go to a 32MB/DS with a 33.6 EXP modem when she begins to show a desire
for Internet surfing d8¬)

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On 1999-05-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >Hi All,
   >I understand somebody out there knows which 200LX serial numbers
   >indicate the presence or absence of the extra memory socket already
   >presoldered on the motherboard on my 2MB model. Can someone please
   >advise? Cheers...
   >Roger Whitmarsh

Try this URL and save the page, as there is no telling when it
will go away.  The proprietor of this site is deceased according
to the home page.  You should also save the PDF file that contains
the installation instructions.

http://www.marcan-dist.com/hp-memory1.htm#Contents1


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John,

It's via the serial cable from the connectivity pack.

WWW/LX on the 200 talks to the proxy server on the PC, and the proxy server
dials out via the modem on the PC passing on all TCP/IP requests.

I'll try to prepare some instructions when I get some time (ha ha) and pop
them on my company's web site. I'll tell the group the address when I've
done it.



John L. Stanley wrote:

>   By all means.  I'd be VERY interested in seeing how you set up the
> connection.  From the HPLX to the desktop, is it via serial, modem, or
> Ethernet?

> > I use WWW/LX on my HP, but connect to the internet via the
> > modem on my Windows
> > 95 PC. I use Win95 dial up server, and a shareware/freeware
> > (depending on
> > number of connections) proxy server called Spoon Proxy.
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My HP 1000CX tells me that you can set ANY drive (a:/e:, c: or d:) as
bootable, or in normal mode it scans the "drives" looking for a
"config.sys" file and boots off that partition...

I *should* be able to install DOS on a CF card then set the drive as
the bootable device (pressing DEL brings up the boot manager, IIRC).

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 4:07 PM
Subject: Use any version of DOS on the HPLX


>Hi all
>
>Tamas Feher found this site.Thx Tamas  :)
>
>My question is has anyone tried any OS other than DOS 5.0 on their LX the
>way described?
>How can I tell if my HP 10Meg flashcard is able to be made bootable?
>Are there any dangers with attempting to do this?
>
>Any other comments?
>TIA
>
>Russell
>
>
>There is a webpage at <www.erols.com/rld> by Rich L. Dubs, which deals with
>how to install a NATIVE version of Minix on the palmtop (vs.
>DOS-serviced Minix favored by Mack Bagette and others). It's a pretty
>convoluted reading..., but:
>
>The included ZIP archive on that website contains a specially modified WINI
>version for 100/200LX. This program has nothing to do with Microsoft, but
it
>allows you to use DOS as a shoelace; to load other OS (like Linux, OS/2,
>other DOS, etc.) on top of itself and then get rid of DOS. In the end you
>will have native Minix / DRDOS6.0 / MS-DOS622 on your palmtop running as it
>should.
>
>Thus, it is indeed possible to use any version of DOS on the 200LX, not
just
>MS-DOS 5.0. I have no idea, why this has never been tried! I use WINI on my
>desktop IBM PC/XT and it work flawlessly. IMO it'd be about 2 hours of work
>to test booting other DOS on HPLX.
>
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Hi,

I just joined the list, I have an HP 1000CX which is identical to the
200LX except it only has DOS and laplink remote, that's it, no built
in stuff.  Well I have the cable, but I don't have the laplink
software for my PC.  I don't see any need to buy the connectivity
pack because according to the laplink license it is ok to
have it on both the palmtop and host computers simultaneously.
Here is the problem, I have no way of getting the files I need from
the palmtop to my PC!

The files I need are "LLRA1.EXE", "LLRA2.EXE", "LLRA3.EXE",
"LLRA4.EXE", "TSI.INI" and "LLRA.BAT" from HP200LX's (or 1000CX's)
"D:\BIN"

Sorry to be so long winded!  If anyone can help me with my problem,
please e-mail me privately, or e-mail me if I am way off on this one!

Thanks,

Nick Marto

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Subject:      Re: HELP 1000CX file xfer
Comments: To: Nick <nick@ITOL.COM>

I vaguely remember you use the mode command on the 200 then you can control
the 200 from the pc and transfer files. Something like mode com1:baud,parity,stop
bit. Sorry I can't remember any more.

John

Nick writes:
> Hi,
>
> I just joined the list, I have an HP 1000CX which is identical to the
> 200LX except it only has DOS and laplink remote, that's it, no built
> in stuff.  Well I have the cable, but I don't have the laplink
> software for my PC.  I don't see any need to buy the connectivity
> pack because according to the laplink license it is ok to
> have it on both the palmtop and host computers simultaneously.
> Here is the problem, I have no way of getting the files I need from
> the palmtop to my PC!
>
> The files I need are "LLRA1.EXE", "LLRA2.EXE", "LLRA3.EXE",
> "LLRA4.EXE", "TSI.INI" and "LLRA.BAT" from HP200LX's (or 1000CX's)
> "D:\BIN"
>
> Sorry to be so long winded!  If anyone can help me with my problem,
> please e-mail me privately, or e-mail me if I am way off on this one!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Marto
>
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Hope you had a nice trip, ron.

too bad about the 425.

let me know if anyone is unloading one, would be nice to have
one, especially with the lcd screen.  just what i need.

too bad about sa4.0, though.
do you know if it will run aprs stuff?

where would be a good lace to go hunting for a used 425?
I like the idea of AA cells.

dave

>
> Dave,
> Just got back from my trip.   I sold the 425.  SA is the program I =
couldn
> 't
> get working on it.  I even tried SA 4.0.  SA requires 32 bit and there =
se
> ems
> to be some problem with the SA installer getting the 32 bit access =
workin
> g.
>
> I like the 530.  It is almost a 425 without the programs although =
slightl
> y
> faster.   It is more dos compatible and does run SA 4.0.  I haven't had =
t
> ime
> to try anything else.
>
> The 600 is a good machine if you don't plan on using it in sunlight.  =
Lik
> e
> any other color machine, it is hard to read in sunlight.  The b/w OB's =
ar
> e
> great in sunlight.  The 600 will not run on AA's nor will the 530.  An =
OB
>
> 600 was my main machine for two years and the last year it ran Win 95. =
 I
>
> gave it to my sister and it is still running great.  With the 600, HP
> finally made just every thing to be compatible with the rest of the =
world
> .
> Win 95 installation is still interesting and I hear that Win 98 won't =
wor
> k.
>
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <74737.221@compuserve.com>
> To: Ron Beckley <rbeckley@shore.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 2:05 AM
> Squbject: Re: Omnibook questions
>
> Ron, i am interested in your 425.  do you have any of the
> support stuff that goes with it?  what accessories?
>
> Waht gps program will it not run?  I am thinking streetatlas
> myself and APRS.  do you do these?
>
> 295 is a bit steep for me.  what about 250?
>
> how do you like the 600 and can it use aa cells?
>
> what is your opinion of the 530.
>
> thanks
>
> dave
>

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Thanks for reading.
Anyone out there have a HP95LX/HP100LX or HP200LX for sale?
The screen cracked on the existing one that I have... Can
anyone help?

Regards,
 David
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Subject:      Transfering files

Nick

I'm sorry, I gave you bad information. You type the ctty com1
on the palmtop. What you do
is open a terminal program on the desktop, type ctty com1 on
the palmtop and you should get the c: prompt from the palmtop
in the terminal program. Of course you have to connect the two
with a serial cable and have a clear communications line. HTH

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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Hi,
I agree with you for a "wince" (off)topic,
but if you have one email with the FS topic (and if the persone interested in it
reply directly to the saler) it's not a lot of email.
I prefere to see this  than people who don't even try to read the FAQ or
search for a file on SUPER (thanx guys for these facilities)

PROPOSITION 1:
writing Ýtopic¨ in the subject.
using Ýkeyword¨ give you the possibility to use a filter in your mail reader.

PROPOSITION 2:
having 2 lists??? (easy for me. isn't it!)


>      We are a diverse group, with different expectations from this
> LIST. The "old pros" are not always interested in "fluff", "WinCE", or
> "FS" unless they are in the market. This LIST is very busy, and some

Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 22:45:48 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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As I understand it, the idea is to encourage folks with
FS postings to use the header, and folks who are not
interested can choose to be excluded from the posting.

This does not mean that FS posts are discouraged any
more than they were before, it simply means that folks
have more control over what they recieve.

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: TOPIC "FS:"


Hi,
I'm not sure I understand corectly.
Is it we can't use the list for selling any LX related item?
if so, I will miss it, because I like to know when some one is selling some
thing.
regards
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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 22:42:23 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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The 1000CX has a black case as well...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Subject: Re: 1000CX case style


>The 100LX is black, I don't think any of the 200LX's are...

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 22:51:22 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Traditional womens clothes tend to have few, if any,
pockets (of any usable size) - I say this *purely* as
an avid, though part-time observer ;¬)

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
Subject: Re: Carrying the 200LX


>Nancy A. Barker writes:
>>    >I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.
>>
>> I carry mine in my purse!  This isn't a sexist list,
>> is it ?? :)
>
>Oh I donno, women use pockets for stuff too don't they?<g>

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 22:46:47 +0000
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Thanks to all who replied.  I got the PC-Palmtop connection working!

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Subject:      Re: Fwd: FS: HP200LX 2MB


yo
Would you want a Toshiba 1000XE for it?
Works with software, plus extras.

>Also just found this post on a 2MB 200LX for
sale/trade if anybody is interested.
>
>Good Luck!

yor pal al.....................

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 03:38:11 +1200
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As Maxwell Smart used to say "Hope I'm not outta line here Chief!"

But this unit from a company looks good.
I'd never heard of seems to have put out a unit closely resembling the
HP OB800-CT with better specs.

I'd love to know the price but I couldn't find it.
I agree with the person who hates the front platform - this doesn't have
one (like the HP OB800 which doesn't either).

There is a nice image of it on the website looking for all the world
like an HP OB800-CT.

Looks like some companies still know how to do things right. <g>

     Kiwi MiniNote. 790
     Total Solution Designer

         8.4" TFT
         Intel Pentium CPU
         TouchScreen and Pointing Stick
         Windows 98
         2.8 pounds

    Specifications:

    Processor Intel Pentium 266 MHz CPU with MMX technology
    Display 8.4" Active Matrix (TFT) SVGA 256 color LCD
    Touch Screen 1.2MB VRAM Supports external CRT monitor
    Memory 32MB on board.
    One 144 pin expansion DIMM socket supports 16/32/64/128MB SDRAM

    Cache 512KB Level 2 pipeline burst cache memory
    BIOS 256K, Flash ROM BIOS
    Supports PnP, PCI 2.1 and APM 1.2
    Storage Hard Drive - supports 2.1/4.8/6.4GB Hard drives
    External 24X CD-ROM (Optional)
    External 1.44MB Floppy Drive (Optional)
    PCMCIA One type II slot with Cardbus and Zoomed Video
    Keyboard 85 Keys; Windows 95/98 compatible keys with
embedded                numeric keypad
    Pointing Device Built in Pointing Stick and Touchscreen
    Audio Microsoft sound system, Sound Blaster Pro compatible, 16-bit
stereo
    F/M synthesizer Built in Microphone and 2 speakers Built in 3D
enhanced controller
    I/O One USB Port One Parallel Port supports ECP/EPP or external
Floppy Drive One RS232 Serial Port
    One external CRT connector port for Monitor
    One external Keyboard Port or Mouse(PS/2) Port
    Modem Integrated V.90 56Kbps Fax/Modem
    Power 10.8V, 1500mAH Lithium Ion Battery
    Dimensions 10.19"(w) x 6.69"(d) x 1.22"(h)
    Weight 2.86 lbs.
    Compliance FCC, CE, UL and VCCI, Windows 95/98 and NT 4.0
    Options Li-Ion Battery, Car Adapter, PCMCIA LAN Card
    Accessories AC Adapter and Carrying bag included

Duncan
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 00:45:22 -0500
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All,

I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95, docking
station,
ac adapter, battery, etc.  for $450.   Is this a good price? I have mainly
dealt with the older
300/425 etc OB's and know there are a few OB folks on the list who might be
able to help
if this is a good deal or not.

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 23:45:56 -0600
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              Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
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Oh yes . . . very good . . . where did you see it?

Carol

At 11:45 PM 5/8/99 , you wrote:
>All,
>
>I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95, docking
>station,
>ac adapter, battery, etc.  for $450.   Is this a good price? I have mainly
>dealt with the older
>300/425 etc OB's and know there are a few OB folks on the list who might be
>able to help
>if this is a good deal or not.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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<html><div>Oh yes . . . very good . . . where did you see it?</div>
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<div>Carol</div>
<br>
<div>At 11:45 PM 5/8/99 , you wrote:</div>
<div>&gt;All,</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95,
docking</div>
<div>&gt;station,</div>
<div>&gt;ac adapter, battery, etc.&nbsp; for $450.&nbsp;&nbsp; Is this a
good price? I have mainly</div>
<div>&gt;dealt with the older</div>
<div>&gt;300/425 etc OB's and know there are a few OB folks on the list
who might be</div>
<div>&gt;able to help</div>
<div>&gt;if this is a good deal or not.</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;Thanks,</div>
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The Omnibook mentioned below, is used. (forgot to mention that) but seems in
very good condition.  I saw it at a local second hand shop.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 09, 1999 12:48 AM
Subject: OT: HP Omnibook 800cs whats a good price?


>All,
>
>I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95, docking
>station,
>ac adapter, battery, etc.  for $450.   Is this a good price? I have mainly
>dealt with the older
>300/425 etc OB's and know there are a few OB folks on the list who might be
>able to help
>if this is a good deal or not.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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Alchemist writes:
> All,
>
> I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95, docking
> station,
> ac adapter, battery, etc.  for $450.   Is this a good price? I have mainly

Since it's been ruined by having windows on it, it's probably only worth
350.<g>

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 23:18:24 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Folks, just upgraded my machine today to 64MB. It was 32MB before. Well, I
hear the echoes of data - the place seems so empty and so huge!!!

I have a feeling that soon, this machine will be even larger. The Geniuses in
our market have been silent for too-too long - I suspect they must have
_something_ up their sleeve! :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 8 May 1999 23:28:11 -0700
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David wrote:
>
> Thanks for reading.
> Anyone out there have a HP95LX/HP100LX or HP200LX for sale?
> The screen cracked on the existing one that I have... Can
> anyone help?
>
> Regards,
>  David
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Dave! I have a HP95LX but its my wife's also HP200LX It's mine I Could
sell it (HP200LX)
 FOR AROUND $320.00 it's been updated by thaddeus computing to 5mb and
of course
double speed. if my price is not in line go with ebay.com

                            Hope you find one
                                   Bob1

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A Meshar wrote:
>
> Folks, just upgraded my machine today to 64MB. It was 32MB before. Well, I
> hear the echoes of data - the place seems so empty and so huge!!!
>
> I have a feeling that soon, this machine will be even larger. The Geniuses in
> our market have been silent for too-too long - I suspect they must have
> _something_ up their sleeve! :)
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Avi!! I agree just waiting.
               Bob1

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 09:34:46 +0300
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Hello!

Can I also connect to news.holx.net?
Do I need account name?

Thanks  Yehuda


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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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David and all,

there is no access to the newsserver of HPLX.NET since more
than one week.

The error messages in Post/LX say either

- newsserver denied access or

- no HP200.GENERAL newsgroup on this newsserver

Any problems ?


HP Staber/Salzburg

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On Sat, 8 May 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What can the 48 do that the 200LX can't if the 200 is loaded with
> Derive?

The 48GX is faster for quick calculations, since you don't have to go into
any special applications.  Just turn it on and plug away.

Function-wise, I'm not sure... but none of the games written for the 48GX
will work on the 200LX, and some of them are pretty incredible. <g>

One advantage the 48GX has had for me is that the 200LX is often banned on
tests.

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Ernst, Yehuda wrote:

> Can I also connect to news.holx.net? Do I need account name?

Yes, and yes.  Point your web browser to http://news.hplx.net (or
http://www.hplx.net/news/ if you're using WWW/LX) and you can sign up
online.  Then you will set your newsreader to use news.hplx.net as the
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 03:45:49 +0200
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>
> Function-wise, I'm not sure... but none of the games written for the 48GX
> will work on the 200LX, and some of them are pretty incredible. <g>

Ah the important stuff. Thats one thing the LX needs is more games<g>.
Maybe someone could port Netwars over<hint,hint>

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Ah the important stuff. Thats one thing the LX needs is more games<g>.
> Maybe someone could port Netwars over<hint,hint>

Curtis Cameron is working on Outlook conversion software.  Don't overload
him.  <g>

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 11:54:20 +0200
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>You type the ctty com1
>on the palmtop. What you do
>is open a terminal program on the desktop, type ctty com1 on
>the palmtop and you should get the c: prompt from the palmtop
>in the terminal program.


I tried it with Hyperterminal in Windows NT. But I cannot see any prompt in
Hyperterminal

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 12:01:58 +0200
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I set my 200LX up with turkish characters (works wonderful). Now I have to
print the docs with my desktop. I have no DOS manual at hand, can anybody
tell me the turkish codepage?

My config.sys has:

device=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,,1)
Country=041,850,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\country.sys

And my autoexec.bat:

mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
mode con codepage select=850
keyb sg,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\keyboard.sys


 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 09:53:33 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: OT: HP Omnibook 800cs whats a good price?
Comments: cc: driden@STLNET.COM

   >I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95,
   >docking station,
   >ac adapter, battery, etc.  for $450.   Is this a good price? I have
   >mainly dealt with the older
   >300/425 etc OB's and know there are a few OB folks on the list who
   >might be able to help
   >if this is a good deal or not.
Message-Id: <19990509135334.CVJD20406@Ý12.72.154.225¨>
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:53:34 +0000

I think all the recent buyers (me included) were for liquidated 800CTs for
about $999 (166mz, 16mb/2.1gig hd, etc).

There's a faq somewhere that describes the differences between the models
and I recall seeing recommendations (I can't recall the specifics...you'll
have to find the faqs) to go with the 800CT.

Some others may have the links at hand, otherwise, I can find them tomorrow
on my regular machine at work...if you still need them.

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 09:58:12 -0400
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Sun,  9 May 1999 09:35:40 -0500 (EST)

11h49m52s ago ...
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Ken Hansen wrote:

> As I understand it, the idea is to encourage folks with
> FS postings to use the header, and folks who are not
> interested can choose to be excluded from the posting.
>
> This does not mean that FS posts are discouraged any
> more than they were before, it simply means that folks
> have more control over what they recieve.

     Correct! In the WELCOME file (remember that ;-) ) there suggested
prefixes for posts to the list...Specifically, WinCE & Fluff are
mentioned as TOPICS. I should probably add "OT" as many use that as "Off
Topic" & WTB for "Wanted to Buy"...any other suggestions? Again, I
don't think there is a need to define every message...the prefixes I
suggested, ADMIN, TECH,etc...are just suggestions, but I will try to
enforce WinCE, FS/WTB & Fluff TOPICS.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 07:28:22 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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For anybody looking for a 1MB 200LX just found this for sale on the
palmtop newsgroup.

Good Luck!

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: johnworth1@aol.com (JohnWorth1)
Subject: FS: HP 200lx -$125
Date: 9 May 1999 01:54:20 GMT

Hewlett-Packard 200LX one megabyte model in very good condition with manuals.
$125 firm including Federal Expres cod shipping or can be picked up in New York
City.

--- end of forwarded message ---




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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 10:52:46 EDT
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Forgive an ad for equipment, but I think many users may benefit from this
1 time sale.  I could directly sell to retailers with less headache, but
feel that end-users might like to get in on this deal as well.

I have several HP1000's available for sale.  As previously discussed,
from a hardware point-of-view, 1000CXs are identical to 200LXs (with
black case), but lack most of the built in programs. These are brand new,
english versions, in the original boxes with documentation.  I think the
warrantee cards have been removed, because the 1 meg models are a
discontinued line. I will offer these units to sell (US sales only) to
individuals for 1 week only at $150 each, shipping included.  Afterwards,
I will unload them on a retailer, who will likely charge more than this.
I would prefer multiple sales, if at all possible.  Note that the price
is firm, shipping to US addresses only.  I will give references to
serious buyers.

Please submit requests by the 14th.  To minimize disruption to this list,
respond off list, privately to lmrrand@juno.com.

L. Rand

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 08:12:11 -0700
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Does any one know if the 1000CX's can be upgraded in memory?

karl

At 10:52 AM 5/9/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Forgive an ad for equipment, but I think many users may benefit from this
>1 time sale.  I could directly sell to retailers with less headache, but
>feel that end-users might like to get in on this deal as well.
>
>I have several HP1000's available for sale.  As previously discussed,
>from a hardware point-of-view, 1000CXs are identical to 200LXs (with
>black case), but lack most of the built in programs. These are brand new,
>english versions, in the original boxes with documentation.  I think the
>warrantee cards have been removed, because the 1 meg models are a
>discontinued line. I will offer these units to sell (US sales only) to
>individuals for 1 week only at $150 each, shipping included.  Afterwards,
>I will unload them on a retailer, who will likely charge more than this.
>I would prefer multiple sales, if at all possible.  Note that the price
>is firm, shipping to US addresses only.  I will give references to
>serious buyers.
>
>Please submit requests by the 14th.  To minimize disruption to this list,
>respond off list, privately to lmrrand@juno.com.
>
>L. Rand
>
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On Fri, 7 May 1999 17:38:44 -0400, you wrote:
>From:    John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
>Subject: Carrying the 200LX
>I was wondering which pocket do most 200LX'ers carry their palmtop.
>I like the left breast shirt pocket. Which do others use?
>John
You must be a big chap! We Singaporeans are a mite smaller generally
(I am 5' 10" and considered pretty tall here). I carry my lx in a
pouch made by "tatonka" at my waist. thinking of making a leather
custom-built one ...

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 10:19:42 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Does any one know if the 1000CX's can be upgraded in memory?>>

Yes, same as the 200LX

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 11:05:37 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Maybe I should explain my response better.  You can use any pic you want but the
system wants to put the text and such over it even if you leave the info blank,
I seem to remember that it puts some formatting stuff over the pic.  You can
turn your topcard on or off.  But I seem to think that is not what you are
after.  If you setup the machine to use a different pic for the topcard, or just
copy the same topcard to a different name, the system decides whether to put
text on it or not dependent on the topcards name.  If you name it "topcard" it
will put text on it.  If you name it anything else, it will just show the
picture and not the owner and company type info over whatever picture you are
using.  Therefor, you can use the original picture or any other either with or
without generated personal info text over it....

Does that explain it enough?
There is also a nice changer out there called topcard.com that will pull a
picture at random from a specified directory and put it where you direct with
the name you direct.  With this and a nightly automated appointment settings, I
have a different picture each day.  All from a directory of lots of pics that I
downloaded and pics that I created in photoshop to the right size and bits.  You
can just open a copy of the original topcard in a paint program and get the info
on it to create your own from any other picture out there.

Dan Carrington




Hans Peter Staber wrote:
>
> > Brian Sugita wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all!  I feel silly for asking this, but tho I thought I saw
> > > the setting somewhere before, I can't find it now.
>
> More|Menu|Config|Options|Owner
>
> There is a toggle to check Topcard on/off
>
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 18:38:30 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I use a black Franklin planner "bag" I bought from their store that has
...
> I have gotten the "Nice purse!" remark from
...

About 10 years ago I got fed up stuffing my pockets with
everything I thought I might need that day.  I always forgot
something or had to move it all to another of pants or...

I started carrying a "purse".  Women have been keeping this
great (not so) secret from us men.  (Actually men have been keeping
from themselves due the feminine image.)  I now have EVERYTHING
I want to carry ALL the time including stuff I never use to
carry in my pockets (like asprin, etc.).

When my 200LX came along 2 years ago I just added it to the bag.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 18:38:33 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HELP 1000CX file xfer
Comments: To: Nick <nick@ITOL.COM>
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Take a look at the ZIP tool at www.palmtop.net/super.html.
This is a file transfer tool (not the archiver).

cheers... Russ

> I just joined the list, I have an HP 1000CX which is identical to the
> 200LX except it only has DOS and laplink remote, that's it, no built

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 18:38:36 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Games (was HP 48 verses the 200LX)
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I'm still looking for a good Cribbage game.  I've seen several
DOS versions that don't run too well on the HPLX so I keep
hoping one be written specificly for it.
(Hey Curtis, hint hint...   :-)

> Curtis Cameron is working on Outlook conversion software.  Don't overload
> him.  <g>

I don't use Outlook so for me Cribbage is more important!

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 08:32:16 +1200
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From:         Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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>Hi All,
>I understand somebody out there knows which 200LX serial numbers
>indicate the presence or absence of the extra memory socket already
>presoldered on the motherboard on my 2MB model. Can someone please
>advise? Cheers...
>Roger Whitmarsh

>>Try this URL and save the page, as there is no telling when it
>>will go away.  The proprietor of this site is deceased according
>>to the home page.  You should also save the PDF file that contains
>>the installation instructions.
>>
>>http://www.marcan-dist.com/hp-memory1.htm#Contents1
>>
>>..Gary

Thanks very much Gary, great response

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 14:36:53 -0700
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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That last post was meant to go only offlist.  Please forgive
my error.  Thanks!

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 16:37:19 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Topcards & Text

Hi Danny
I know what you're saying.  Sounds neat.
Can you squeeze your TOPCARD pics up to SUPER?
Thanks from all of us.

Happy mother's day.
yor pal al.......................



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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 18:45:25 -0400
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Motorola CELLect 14.4 Pocket Modem questions:

I know that some list members are using this model. I just procured one from
ebay and am awaiting its arrival. Its coming with a cable for motorola cell
phones but I don't know with which ones it will work. I currently have a
startac 3000 (cheapo version). Here are my questions:

- How well does this unit work with the LX?

- Is there a source for alternate cell phone cables for this modem?

- What kind of bandwidth can I expect when using it with a cell phone?

Thank you all.

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 22:46:08 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> Ah the important stuff. Thats one thing the LX needs is more games<g>.
> Maybe someone could port Netwars over<hint,hint>

Have you tried browsing to http://games.hplx.net ? Well worth
a visit if you haven't done so recently, even if my viewpoint
is just a little biased...!

 -Mike

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Date:         Fri, 7 May 1999 08:36:45 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Movietimes .GDB
Comments: To: Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>

Terrence Chun writes:
> I finally succeeded in writing an AREXX script which:
>     1. Downloads the complete movie listings for the area.
>     2. Invokes HTTx to convert the HTML formatted document to text.
>     3. Creates a comma-delineated file of the movie listings.

FYI, last week I submitted a patch to the author of the palmpilot
showtimes package (mentioned on this list by Mitch).  He has accepted
the patch, and the next official version of showtimes will have the
ability to write out a .CSV file ready for conversion to a .GDB file
using gdbload.  Mitch has designed an appropriate GDB database layout.

The showtimes package (which works for the US, France and Australia) is at:

  http://jrray.visionart.com/showtimes/showtimes.html

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 21:23:15 -0230
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              Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
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Is there a Wordperfect mailing list?  Or, are there any Wordperfect
experts here?

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 09:59:52 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Subject:      LXTCP 1.1/PNR 3.1 - CRC Error - please download lxtcp11b.zip again
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Folks,

Seems that a CRC error somehow crept into the LXPOP.EXE file in the
copy of lxtcp11b.zip in my Software Library.  I've recreated the zip
file - and tested the download this time :-) Please look for "fixed
CRC problem" in the download menu to ensure that you're not looking at
a cached version of the download page.

For those people who are having trouble accessing the download page
due to WWW/LX not being able to handle virtual hosts, it's canonical
address is:

        http://www.hplx.net/rwhitby/download.html

Browsers that send the HTTP 1.1 "Host:" header in the request won't
have a problem.  I note that in the RFC for HTTP 1.1, the Internet
Standards Board recommends that when HTTP 1.0 browsers are updated
that they should at least support this new header.  The "Host:" header
is the only addition to HTTP 1.0 that they recommend that all browsers
(including existing HTTP 1.0 browsers) should be modified to support.
However, I understand that there is a technical reason why this may be
difficult for WWW/LX - Andreas has posted either here or on
news.hplx.net why this is so.

In the meantime, if WWW/LX users see http://rwhitby.hplx.net, they can
replace it with http:://www.hplx.net/rwhitby to get the canonical path.

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 21:42:25 -0300
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Subject:      Re: Need help with 95lx/flashcard
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Hey, no problem the SanDisk CF (or PCMCIA) flash cards works very well on=
 the HP95,
but the card must be unplugged when the lx is turned off. because (i t kn=
ow how,
but idon't knot why, remeber ... 1984...) it drains 22mA from the batteri=
es...

i can send you a driver, if you want

add the driver to the config sys :

device=3Dsdpdrv.sys

the flashcard will be in the letter A

"Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" escribi=F3:

> Quoting James de'Armond (dearmond@slip.net):
> > I hope you can answer a question for me. I've got a 95lx and would li=
ke to
> > get a HP 10meg Flashcard working with it. Do you know what I'm suppos=
ed to
> > do (drivers etc) to get this thing working? Thanks.
> >
> > James de'Armond
> > dearmond@slip.net
> > www.homeofficecenter.com
> > 510-559-8288
>
> I have forwarded your question on to the HPLX mailing list as I have no=
 history
> with the 95LX. I'm sure someone there can help you.
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
>
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 21:45:58 -0300
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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From:         Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: HP95 storage media
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A SanDisk CF or PCMCIA flashcard works (with a driver...), please read my=
 post
to the list
for moore info or tellme if you want...

too, i kow a way to increase in 128k or (if you can get the chip) 512k th=
e
main RAM, tell me...

i can sed you the driver for the SanDisk, i think other flashcard works, =
but i
don't made the test yet...

Ed Padin escribi=F3:

> I just purchased a 512k 95LX (on the way) and would like to find storag=
e
> media for it. I have some type I flash cards but I seem to recall that =
the
> 95LX is verrry limited in what it can use. Can anyone point me to a sou=
rce
> for pcmcia storage cards for the 95lx?
>
> thanks.
>
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 21:52:26 -0300
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              Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR>
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Subject:      Re: fluff:??? A child is born!
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She can start with a hp95, is small enough  for her little hands...

Congratulations, a new chid for the world, i think is wonderful (i am
unmarried and a haven't sons or daugthers but i think is wonderful,
again!...)



Stefan Haake escribi=F3:

> Dear Listmembers,
> I am following this list with great
> pleasure for
> some jears now although not
> contributing much.
>
> As it is part of my daily routine to go
> through
> the messages it has bekome a important
> part
> of relaxation for me.
> For this the list is part of my
> family-life.
>
> So I am proud to announce to you all:
>
> I have bekome father for the first time
> (only genetically speaking!). I already
> had
> two girls for free (aged 6 and 16)
> when I met the love of my life.
>
> Eva was born on 2.5.99 at 1.15 in the
> morning,
> we all are doing very well although not
> sleeping
> much.
>
> Greetings from Holland
>
> Stefan Haake
>
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 19:19:12 -0700
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              Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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From:         Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: FS: HP200LX 2MB
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Tell me about your Toshiba 1000XE.  I've never heard of it before.  I'm
might be interrested in buying it. =)

-----Original Message-----
From: Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: FS: HP200LX 2MB


>
>yo
>Would you want a Toshiba 1000XE for it?
>Works with software, plus extras.
>
>>Also just found this post on a 2MB 200LX for
>sale/trade if anybody is interested.
>>
>>Good Luck!
>
>yor pal al.....................
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 19:22:58 -0700
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              Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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From:         Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
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I missed the original post... how much were the 1000CX's going for?  Also,
what's the difference between the 1000CX and the 1000LX?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 9:42 AM
Subject: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...


>I apologize, but just as soon as I went through all the emails
>from those interested in the 1000CXs I called my supplier
>and someone had just bought out his entire inventory.
>
>I apologize to those who had requested units, but I was
>simply not quick enough to capture this good deal. Keep
>your eyes open, I suspect the units I was going to buy will
>be offered for sale soon by the person/company that beat
>me to them...
>
>Again, sorry for not being able to deliver to all those folks
>that were interested.
>
>Ken
>khansen@njcc.com
>
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 21:25:10 -0600
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              Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
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From:         Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
Subject:      Re: OT: HP Omnibook 800cs whats a good price?
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the 1.1 version of the Omnibook FAQ (V1.1) is available at
http://www.eberl.com/omnibook/faq.htm

carol

At 07:53 AM 5/9/99 , you wrote:
>   >
>Message-Id: <19990509135334.CVJD20406@Ý12.72.154.225¨>
>Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:53:34 +0000
>
>I think all the recent buyers (me included) were for liquidated 800CTs for
>about $999 (166mz, 16mb/2.1gig hd, etc).
>
>There's a faq somewhere that describes the differences between the models
>and I recall seeing recommendations (I can't recall the specifics...you'll
>have to find the faqs) to go with the 800CT.
>
>Some others may have the links at hand, otherwise, I can find them tomorrow
>on my regular machine at work...if you still need them.
>
>- Longden
>
>
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the 1.1 version of the Omnibook FAQ (V1.1) is available at<br>
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</a></font></u><font color="#000000">carol<br>
<br>
At 07:53 AM 5/9/99 , you wrote:<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt;Message-Id: &lt;19990509135334.CVJD20406@Ý12.72.154.225¨&gt;<br>
&gt;Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:53:34 +0000<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I think all the recent buyers (me included) were for liquidated
800CTs for<br>
&gt;about $999 (166mz, 16mb/2.1gig hd, etc).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;There's a faq somewhere that describes the differences between the
models<br>
&gt;and I recall seeing recommendations (I can't recall the
specifics...you'll<br>
&gt;have to find the faqs) to go with the 800CT.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Some others may have the links at hand, otherwise, I can find them
tomorrow<br>
&gt;on my regular machine at work...if you still need them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;- Longden<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 23:03:57 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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I knew it!

Honestly, Good luck,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com
-----Original Message-----
From: lydia m rand <lmrrand@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 09, 1999 11:04 AM


>Forgive an ad for equipment, but I think many users may benefit from this
>1 time sale.  I could directly sell to retailers with less headache, but
>feel that end-users might like to get in on this deal as well.
>
>I have several HP1000's available for sale.  As previously discussed,
>from a hardware point-of-view, 1000CXs are identical to 200LXs (with
>black case), but lack most of the built in programs. These are brand new,
>english versions, in the original boxes with documentation.  I think the
>warrantee cards have been removed, because the 1 meg models are a
>discontinued line. I will offer these units to sell (US sales only) to
>individuals for 1 week only at $150 each, shipping included.  Afterwards,
>I will unload them on a retailer, who will likely charge more than this.
>I would prefer multiple sales, if at all possible.  Note that the price
>is firm, shipping to US addresses only.  I will give references to
>serious buyers.
>
>Please submit requests by the 14th.  To minimize disruption to this list,
>respond off list, privately to lmrrand@juno.com.
>
>L. Rand
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 22:48:02 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Well, I've got an OB800ct (one of the last made, P166mmx,
4+ Gig HD, etc.), and I would much rather have it than the
machine listed below...The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
mouse on thside.

I like the built-in SCSI, large screen, and full-size keyboard,
these are the things that make my OB800ct special.

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Flyers <Flyers@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****


>     Kiwi MiniNote. 790
>     Total Solution Designer
>
>         8.4" TFT
>         Intel Pentium CPU
>         TouchScreen and Pointing Stick
>         Windows 98
>         2.8 pounds
>
>    Specifications:
>
>    Processor Intel Pentium 266 MHz CPU with MMX technology
>    Display 8.4" Active Matrix (TFT) SVGA 256 color LCD
>    Touch Screen 1.2MB VRAM Supports external CRT monitor
>    Memory 32MB on board.
>    One 144 pin expansion DIMM socket supports 16/32/64/128MB SDRAM
>
>    Cache 512KB Level 2 pipeline burst cache memory
>    BIOS 256K, Flash ROM BIOS
>    Supports PnP, PCI 2.1 and APM 1.2
>    Storage Hard Drive - supports 2.1/4.8/6.4GB Hard drives
>    External 24X CD-ROM (Optional)
>    External 1.44MB Floppy Drive (Optional)
>    PCMCIA One type II slot with Cardbus and Zoomed Video
>    Keyboard 85 Keys; Windows 95/98 compatible keys with
>embedded                numeric keypad
>    Pointing Device Built in Pointing Stick and Touchscreen
>    Audio Microsoft sound system, Sound Blaster Pro compatible, 16-bit
>stereo
>    F/M synthesizer Built in Microphone and 2 speakers Built in 3D
>enhanced controller
>    I/O One USB Port One Parallel Port supports ECP/EPP or external
>Floppy Drive One RS232 Serial Port
>    One external CRT connector port for Monitor
>    One external Keyboard Port or Mouse(PS/2) Port
>    Modem Integrated V.90 56Kbps Fax/Modem
>    Power 10.8V, 1500mAH Lithium Ion Battery
>    Dimensions 10.19"(w) x 6.69"(d) x 1.22"(h)
>    Weight 2.86 lbs.

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 23:01:13 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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I am a BIG fan of Active Matrix screens - I think the Dual Scan
models use a different video chip...

Opinions vary, but I would avoid DS if I could help it -also, how
fast is the CPU in this model? Mine has the P166mmx.

The docking station is worth over $100 on Ebay...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: OT: HP Omnibook 800cs whats a good price?


>   >I came across an Omnibook 800cs with 32mb RAM, 800mb hd, WIn95,
>   >docking station,
>   >ac adapter, battery, etc.  for $450.   Is this a good price?
>I think all the recent buyers (me included) were for liquidated 800CTs for
>about $999 (166mz, 16mb/2.1gig hd, etc).
>
>There's a faq somewhere that describes the differences between the models
>and I recall seeing recommendations (I can't recall the specifics...you'll
>have to find the faqs) to go with the 800CT.

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Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 23:11:48 -0500
Reply-To:     orink@ix.netcom.com
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From:         Orin Keplinger <orink@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect
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Try the newsgroup cnews.corel.com

As Ever,
Orin


Andy wrote:
>
> Is there a Wordperfect mailing list?  Or, are there any Wordperfect
> experts here?
>
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 00:14:46 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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From:         Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
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I was offering to sell 1000CXs for $135/each, someone else
snapped them up from my supplier, and (I assume) is offering
them for $150/each.

There was no 1000LX AFAIK, it is/was a typo I suspect...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 09, 1999 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...


>I missed the original post... how much were the 1000CX's going for?  Also,
>what's the difference between the 1000CX and the 1000LX?

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 04:29:43 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****
Comments: To: Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Ken Hansen wrote:

>The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
>had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
>mouse on thside.

I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook mouse
I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.

--=20
Curtis Cameron

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 06:39:43 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

Great! This is exactly what I also wanted to do.
I just didn't have an idea how to make it.

I'm looking forward to your instructions!

GTX
daniel

>
> It's via the serial cable from the connectivity pack.
>
> WWW/LX on the 200 talks to the proxy server on the PC, and the proxy server
> dials out via the modem on the PC passing on all TCP/IP requests.
>
> I'll try to prepare some instructions when I get some time (ha ha) and pop
> them on my company's web site. I'll tell the group the address when I've
> done it.
>


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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 11:00:48 +0300
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              "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Encryption for 200lx
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Hello Larry,
        i'd like to know more about this encryptation system. I am looking
for a compact encryptation system (C code) in order to send/receive
data files. Uses that system any key ??

Thanks,
Frank


Larry N Zimmerman wrotes:
> The Counterpane website (http://www.counterpane.com) and the new novel,
> Cryptonomicon contain a cryptosystem based on the shuffling of a deck of
> ordinary playing cards.  It is intended to be a cryptosystem for use when
> computers aren't available or would be too conspicuous.

> Any programmers out there want to give it a shot???
>
> Larry Zimmerman

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Hi everyone !!!

I am looking for an external pocket modem to used with my HP200 LX.
Currently, i am using the Multitex-F of Tellink.. It's works very
good but Tellink is missing. I can not contact with them.
I'd like to buy 3-4 units.

Can anyone help me ??


____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:15 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

>
> The world has gone to hell in a hand basket for the oh might dollar.
>
> example: Gas prices here in Las Vegas $1.69 a gallon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>

I think we here in Norway are closer to hell...

We pay 9.7 nok for 1 liter gas that is approx 4.82 $ for a gallon...

No need for you to hang with your head over gasprices any time soon
compared to us here in Norway  ;-)

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
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Andy,

> Is there a Wordperfect mailing list?  Or, are there any Wordperfect
> experts here?

What do you want to know?

Regards

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 07:13:34 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> REX'es are being sold on EBay for around 80$, I'm guessing. Retail is =
about
> 120$.
>
> It would be a good addition to the LX combo!
>
> Philippe :-)

I beleive the REX's you are refering to are not the PRO's will allow you
to enter/edit data on the REX.  It is a handy feature.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 07:13:40 -0500
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> I know that some list members are using this model. I just procured one =
from
> ebay and am awaiting its arrival. Its coming with a cable for motorola =
cell
> phones but I don't know with which ones it will work. I currently have =
a
> startac 3000 (cheapo version). Here are my questions:
>
> - How well does this unit work with the LX?
>
> - Is there a source for alternate cell phone cables for this modem?
>
> - What kind of bandwidth can I expect when using it with a cell phone?
>
> Thank you all.

I can only comment on your last question.  According to my cellular
provider, AirTouch Cellular, the cell connect speeds are 9600 max.  They
also claim, that if I am experiencing a lot of connections problems, to
try slowing down the connection speed further.  Also Airtouch claims to
have a special bank of modems that when you dial this prefix number, you
get access to these modems that help make the wireless data transfer
more effective & have less errors.  I was never able to get that to
work, I went round and round with them and gave up.

Also I do not have my StarTac working correctly with APEX 33.6 Mobile
Plus Cellular modem.  I basically gave up on that.  I had been in
contact with APEX several times, with a tech. supt. person who uses a
LX, and I think reads this list, but I was unable to get my problem
resolved, so I gave up on that to.  How it is supposed to work is no
extra drivers or special software is needed to get the modem to work in
the cell mode.

You just plug the modem into your StarTac and fire away.  Well when I
use POST/LX to try to dial out, I usually get an error message that there
is no dial tone.  So I go into the Comm program in system manager and
try to dial a number, and it will usually give me the same message.  How
I end up getting the LX to dial out is shut off the LX, take out the
modem, unplug the modem cable from the modem & the phone, and then put
them all back together, then try again.  I usually have to do this
several times, and then with some unpredictable pattern, it will let me
dial out.  Then I quickly hurry and exit the Comm program, and go into
POST/LX and dial out without any problems.

My wife and I both have the same phones, and I have tried both, so I
know it is not my phone.  The last conversation I had with the APEX rep
was he felt the LX was powering down the PCMCIA port, which was probably
causing my problems.  He did offer to replace the modem to see if that
was the problem.  I don't use the cell connection very often, so I
really did not feel like frying any more brain cells trying to further
diagnose the problem.

I really would like to have it fixed, but I don't know what to do next.
I pay an extra $10 a month to have unlimited weekends with Airtouch,
so I can get online for no extra fees on the weekend, but if I an
somewhere that I don't have access to a landline, I is most likely not
to have an AC outlet, so I would have the LX of batteries.  I have done
this a few times to go and get my email, and I will get a low battery
message from a fresh set of NI-MH's or alkaline's in about 30 minutes,
even though after letting the batteries rest a while they will still
work for a long time.

I hope you have better luck getting your device talking than I have.
One last thing I got my cell cable from Mobile Planet, and it was like
$60, for just a little cable with two ends, what a rip!



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> > I use a black Franklin planner "bag" I bought from their store that =
has
> ...
> > I have gotten the "Nice purse!" remark from

O.K. I'll bite.  For years prior to using my LX, I used a paper
planner.  I started out with the Franklin Planner, because G.M. used to
pay for the refills.  Then as a cost cutting measure, they quit paying
for the refills, and I started using a less expensive brand refill,
which was available at the local office supply store.

Even though I was using a non-Franklin brand refill, I always used the
Franklin brand binders.  The are very expensive, but really are well
made.  When I got my LX I tried many different way of carring it with
me at all times.  I stumbled upon a Franklin compact sport case when I
visited a local Franklin store.

What the compact sport case does is allows me to put my franklin binder
inside of the zippered nylon case, to keep every thing together.  It
also has a pouch inside that the LX fits into perfectly.  I still use
the binder to organize all my personal stuff.  I keep inside it photos,
note paper, graph paper, post it notes, checkbook, credit cards, laser
pointer, pen & pencil set, highlighter, stick eraser, band aids, asprin,
PCMCIA fax/modem, extra flash cards, modem cables (cell & land line),
extra batteries, and lots more stuff.

The sport pack comes in more than one size, and the smallest (compact)
is the size I use.  It also come with a strap that allows it to be
carried like a purse, or worn like a fanny pack.  I find that with all
the stuff I carry in it, wearing it like a fanny pack is too much stick
out the side or rear of me, so I usally were it like a purse.  I have
four daughters, and they give me a hard time when I ask one of them to
go get my purse, they always tell me it is not a purse, it is your
planner.  Call it what you want, it works, and women have been well
organized for years because of it.

I would be lost with out it, in fact I keep my car keys in the outer
zippered pouch, just so that I am not without it!  Franklin really had a
great idea here.  They have some really neat stuff at the Franklin
store, and any office supply store to help one stay organized.  Hope
this long winded message can help someone.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 06:18:03 -0600
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Try George McCourt, 1-800-705-8100 in Las Vegas. Last I knew, he had several
US Robotic World Port modems

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

"Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" wrote:

> Hi everyone !!!
>
> I am looking for an external pocket modem to used with my HP200 LX.
> Currently, i am using the Multitex-F of Tellink.. It's works very
> good but Tellink is missing. I can not contact with them.
> I'd like to buy 3-4 units.
>
> Can anyone help me ??
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
> Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
> E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
> Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
> 28040 Madrid, Spain
>
> Tel  +34 91 5495700   Ext 332
> Fax  +34 91 3366828
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Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX

On 1999-05-08 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to nancyb@best.com
   >Traditional womens clothes tend to have few, if any,
   >pockets (of any usable size) - I say this *purely* as
   >an avid, though part-time observer ;¬)

I do have a couple of blouses with a breast pocket.
Fortunately, there is no room for my lx!

n.

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 09:23:55 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> From:    Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
> Subject: Re: Topcards & Text

> If I remember correctly, just use a file not named topcard and the text
will not
>
> be displayed over it.
>
> Dan Carrington

Arrgh!  SO that's it.  I've been trying to
get the text TO display.

Thank you

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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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<<I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook mouse
I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.>>

I completely agree.  I have tried everything and nothing compares to using
the pop out mouse of my OB800.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 09:33:16 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Curtis,
    It is only my opinion, but I prefer not having to move my hands
from the keyboard. The "pop-out" mouse is a clever idea, but I
don't like re-calibrating it each time I power-up my notebook.

    To be fair, I haven't worked with the OmniBook "extensively,"
so my opinion may change over time - but I will admit that the
"pop-out" mouse is a close second to a full-size mouse when
you are at a table/desk and will do extensive work...

    Speaking of full-size mice, CompUSA was selling full-size
3  button notebook mice (with a 2 foot cord) and a small carry
bag for about $5 - it is a nice Logitech unit, I got several...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Curtis Cameron <curtc@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****


Ken Hansen wrote:

>The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
>had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
>mouse on thside.

I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook mouse
I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.

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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

does such a system also work for German TV?

GTX
daniel

> Terrence Chun writes:
> > I finally succeeded in writing an AREXX script which:
> >     1. Downloads the complete movie listings for the area.
> >     2. Invokes HTTx to convert the HTML formatted document to text.
> >     3. Creates a comma-delineated file of the movie listings.
>
> FYI, last week I submitted a patch to the author of the palmpilot
> showtimes package (mentioned on this list by Mitch).  He has accepted
> the patch, and the next official version of showtimes will have the
> ability to write out a .CSV file ready for conversion to a .GDB file
> using gdbload.  Mitch has designed an appropriate GDB database layout.
>
> The showtimes package (which works for the US, France and Australia) is at:
>
>   http://jrray.visionart.com/showtimes/showtimes.html
>


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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 14:46:32 GMT
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150 mA

> hi all.  i know this is a topic often discussed, but forgive
> my lapse of memory.
>
> does anyone have the max current that a pcmcia modem can draw
> on the hp200lx?


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 On Sat, 8 May 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

 > What can the 48 do that the 200LX can't if the 200 is loaded with
> Derive?

It can convert *any* measure to *any other* compatible measure (Bill
Wickes'  favourite example was Barne-megaParsecs to Furlongs per
fortnight) and has virtually infinite room for user-defined units. It
also carries, and resolves, units through calculations. Think of the
200LX solver on steroids!

It has much more flexible time and alarm functions *built-in*.

There's none of your puny 20-40 hr. battery life - it's an order of
magnitude better.

Built-in plotting of graphs, charts, solutions in 2 or 3-d.

It's a much better form factor for hand-held use (vertical, not
horizontal).

RPN or Algebraic entry of problems (and programs).

Considering your somewhat obvious down on MS, it isn't a Microsoft OS
like the 200LX uses.

The only reason I use the 200 more than my 48(s) is that I keep my book
list on the database and my current odd-moment reading for VR. I have
less need for the conversions and solutions than I used to. Actually,
if it had a bigger screen, I might still be using my '41CX. I wouldn't
dream of carrying any of them in my shirt pocket though; especially the
200LX (for those of us who buy off-the-rack shirts there's no room in
the pocket for anything else - even a PC card).

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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bob1 wrote:

> A Meshar wrote:
> >
> > Folks, just upgraded my machine today to 64MB. It was 32MB before. Well, I
> > hear the echoes of data - the place seems so empty and so huge!!!
> >
> > I have a feeling that soon, this machine will be even larger. The Geniuses in
> > our market have been silent for too-too long - I suspect they must have
> > _something_ up their sleeve! :)
> >
> >   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
> >   http://www.dasoft.com
> >
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> Avi!! I agree just waiting.
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Any hard facts on larger memories for Hp 200 Lx? Avi I am a bit jeoulse...mine is
currently a 1 mb...

I want to upgrade my Hp 200 to 32 mb ram, but I can not find the money for a 32 mb
upgrade so I will have to settle for a 8mb doublespeed upgrade...

Should I wait a while and save up some more money and maybe get the 32 mb for less
in the near future?

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
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<<Should I wait a while and save up some more money and maybe get the 32
mb for less
in the near future?>>

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are no plans to lower
prices again on the upgrades.

Hal at Thaddeus

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i remember someone onthe lsit sayinh they got a hayes modem
to work on the hp200.  does anyone remember the name of th e
33.6 modem that did this?  or was i just dreming?

dave.

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I had a user EMail me a few weeks ago asking about compatability with
non-RSA keys in LXPGP, so I downloaded PGP 6.x on the PC on his
suggestion, and sure enough it had no problem with a RSA key while 5.x
seemed to.

I created a key on the desktop machine, and imported my old key..
However, my old key cannot be made the default key, I haven't looked
into it a great deal, but does anyone know off the top of their head
of an RSA key can be made the default key in PGP 6.x?

None the less, our communications back and forth from palmtop to PC
had no problem, he signed a message, I imported it, verified, etc..

If anyone is interested, I have updated LXPGP a bit, just gotta test
it some more, got a few new features, my favorite is one-step updating
of a file.  Updating being decrypting, editing, then encrypting.  I
keep a password list and some other 'secure' notes on the palmtop I
edit frequently and it's handy to have this ability.  I'm still
working on the best way to do it, currently manually entering the
passphrase both times, I'm considering entering it first then passing
it to PGP to make things more automated.

Anyway..  Cheers.. :)

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On Thu, 6 May 1999 21:00:17 -0400, you wrote:

>I also got the message the zip file was corrupted.
>Rodger

I also noticed this, but more importantly I found that index.html and
country.html were missing.

Now that's said, the next message will probably mention it as well. :)

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Subject:      Re: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****

> >The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
> >had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
> >mouse on thside.
>
> I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
> superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook mouse
> I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron

I have to agree with the original poster, the pop out mouse is weird
and a real pain. Here is a test, try using your 800ct in bed, or on
your lap, or in one hand, or anywhere else that you don't have a flat
surface beside the computer. If I have to have a flat surface to use
my PORTABLE computer I might as well use a desktop model.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Do you mean a Hayes modem as in made by Hayes, or one that obeys Hayes AT
commands and is 33.6 ?

I use the 'Toshiba Advanced V.34 Data/Fax PC Card' which is actually a
rebadged Psion Dacom modem.  It is rated at 160mA when active, but I seem to
manage OK on mains or NiMH batteries.  Display fades a bit but it is not as
hot as some other modems I've used - in fact does not seem to heat up much
at all.   This will not be the same modem badged by Toshiba in the US.

With GP I get 31200 connect speed, with the LX set to 57600.  It flies.
I've also added the GSM upgrade, as it works fine too, but obviously only at
9600.

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Subject:      Re: Use any version of DOS on the HPLX

> My HP 1000CX tells me that you can set ANY drive (a:/e:, c: or d:) as
> bootable, or in normal mode it scans the "drives" looking for a
> "config.sys" file and boots off that partition...
>
> I *should* be able to install DOS on a CF card then set the drive as
> the bootable device (pressing DEL brings up the boot manager, IIRC).
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>

I don't think that any of the LX's can actually boot off of another
drive. The setting you are refering to is just to tell it where to
find the config.sys and autoexec.bat. The OS files still come from
the internal drive no matter what. What the other poster was refering
to is a bootstrap program that runs after dos is started. There has
been one for linux for years called loadlin. This allows you to boot
dos and type a command line that starts another OS (linux in
loadlin's case) and transfers control to this other OS. There is
nothing really special about running an OS this way, all that is
needed is to identify what needs to be loaded where and then transfer
control via a jump command. After the new OS is running it doesn't
know that another OS was running and it uses the space occupied by
the former OS in memory for its own purposes.


Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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From past OB reviews, it seems as if users have always had a love-hate thing
with that mouse.

I personally like it, but I agree with Peter that a built-in secondary device
(trackpoint or ball) would definitely be useful in those awkward situations.

OTOH, it always gets a nice reaction from the crowd that's watching when I pop
the mouse out of its hole <g>.

- Longden





"Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US> on 05/10/99 09:22:11 AM

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Subject:  Re: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****




> >The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
> >had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
> >mouse on thside.
>
> I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
> superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook mouse
> I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron

I have to agree with the original poster, the pop out mouse is weird
and a real pain. Here is a test, try using your 800ct in bed, or on
your lap, or in one hand, or anywhere else that you don't have a flat
surface beside the computer. If I have to have a flat surface to use
my PORTABLE computer I might as well use a desktop model.

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Yes, definitely, although in my case, I would mostly need the REX to hold
data.

Philippe :-)

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Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin


I beleive the REX's you are refering to are not the PRO's will allow you
to enter/edit data on the REX.  It is a handy feature.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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ed,

Yes, that's the same messag I received from Starfish. Funny how easy it
looks to write an accessor for the Starfish software, but that Starfish
would not be interested in helping write it... Perhaps it's the support
issues, although they could easily announce there will be no support to the
third-party written accessor...

In any case, it's definitely worth exploring to keep the LX in the game even
longer!

Philippe :-)

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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: REX from Starfish and Franklin


Philippe,

I recall that the LX<->REX issue was discussed extensively on the HPHAND
forum on CSi several months ago.  Even then, when the LX market was larger,
Starfish was not interested in getting the machines to work together.  I
also recall that someone else started to work on a synching program. Could
it have been Mack Bagette? The thread dwindled away to nothing after a
month or so. I still think it's worth exploring.

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Any news on the High Ram saga?

Philippe :-)

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From: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 2:22 AM
Subject: High RAM on the LX


> I installed EMS240 on my LX and I now have 1MB of EMS available. The EMS
is reconized by DOS MEM and used by WordPerfect 5.1. I ran the QTest to
figure out, if QRAM would work on the LX.
>
> QRAM
> Qram is the 8088/8086/80286/80186 version of Quarterdeck's QEMM386. If you
have EMS on a PC, you can emulate High RAM. That means, that it would be
possible to 'highload' some TSR's and drivers from config.sys and
autoexec.bat.
>
> There is a tool on simtel.net called qtest. It tests, if QRAM can emulate
some high ram on your machine. I ran QTest on my LX and this is the result:
>
> QTest tells me, that QRAM could create 64K High RAM in D000-DFFF.
Unfortunately my QRAM-Disk is at home, not at office. This evening (swiss
time) I will hardcore-test the QRAM.
>
> (I know that some people think, that it is not possible to emulate high
ram on the LX. But there are also people saying, that it is NEVER possible
to use high ram on ANY 8088/8086/80186 ... ).
>
> -goe-
>
>
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On Sun, 9 May 1999 21:23:15 -0230, Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET> wrote:

av> Is there a Wordperfect mailing list?  Or, are there any Wordperfect
av> experts here?

I'm no expert, but I use WP and have a set of manuals. I'd be happy to
try and answer any questions you have.

P

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 14:27:08 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Motorola CELLect 14.4 Pocket Modem questions:

Ouch! Sounds painful. Well, I only paid $35 for it, incl. shipping. It it
doesn't work I'll just use it as an external pcoket modem.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Hocking Ýmailto:hocking@FLASH.NET¨
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 8:14 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Motorola CELLect 14.4 Pocket Modem questions:
>
> > - What kind of bandwidth can I expect when using it with a
> cell phone?
> >
> > Thank you all.
>
> I can only comment on your last question.  According to my cellular
> provider, AirTouch Cellular, the cell connect speeds are 9600
> max.  They
> also claim, that if I am experiencing a lot of connections
> problems, to
> try slowing down the connection speed further.  Also Airtouch
> claims to
> have a special bank of modems that when you dial this prefix
> number, you
> get access to these modems that help make the wireless data transfer
> more effective & have less errors.  I was never able to get that to
> work, I went round and round with them and gave up.
>
> Also I do not have my StarTac working correctly with APEX 33.6 Mobile
> Plus Cellular modem.  I basically gave up on that.  I had been in
> contact with APEX several times, with a tech. supt. person who uses a
> LX, and I think reads this list, but I was unable to get my problem
> resolved, so I gave up on that to.  How it is supposed to work is no
> extra drivers or special software is needed to get the modem
> to work in
> the cell mode.
>
> You just plug the modem into your StarTac and fire away.  Well when I
> use POST/LX to try to dial out, I usually get an error
> message that there
> is no dial tone.  So I go into the Comm program in system manager and
> try to dial a number, and it will usually give me the same
> message.  How
> I end up getting the LX to dial out is shut off the LX, take out the
> modem, unplug the modem cable from the modem & the phone, and then put
> them all back together, then try again.  I usually have to do this
> several times, and then with some unpredictable pattern, it
> will let me
> dial out.  Then I quickly hurry and exit the Comm program, and go into
> POST/LX and dial out without any problems.
>
> My wife and I both have the same phones, and I have tried both, so I
> know it is not my phone.  The last conversation I had with
> the APEX rep
> was he felt the LX was powering down the PCMCIA port, which
> was probably
> causing my problems.  He did offer to replace the modem to see if that
> was the problem.  I don't use the cell connection very often, so I
> really did not feel like frying any more brain cells trying to further
> diagnose the problem.
>
> I really would like to have it fixed, but I don't know what
> to do next.
> I pay an extra $10 a month to have unlimited weekends with Airtouch,
> so I can get online for no extra fees on the weekend, but if I an
> somewhere that I don't have access to a landline, I is most likely not
> to have an AC outlet, so I would have the LX of batteries.  I
> have done
> this a few times to go and get my email, and I will get a low battery
> message from a fresh set of NI-MH's or alkaline's in about 30 minutes,
> even though after letting the batteries rest a while they will still
> work for a long time.
>
> I hope you have better luck getting your device talking than I have.
> One last thing I got my cell cable from Mobile Planet, and it was like
> $60, for just a little cable with two ends, what a rip!
>
>
>
> Best Regards, Robert Hocking
> Email: hocking@flash.net
> Sterling Heights, Michigan
> System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
> Mailer: POST/LX-Registered
>
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>Any news on the High Ram saga?


Yes, QRAM can create a 64KB High RAM area. It seems that it does. But
afterwards, if config.sys tries to highload a driver, or if it wants to use
the HMA, it tells me 'corrupted High RAM'. Perhaps it needs an option,
because there is not standard RAM in the LX. But unfortunately it seems,
that it won't work.

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 14:18:39 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Wetsuit for the 200LX

Just wanted to let everyone know Daytimer still sells the Palmtop
Wetsuit. It is part # AMF-64181. Price 9.99. Their phone number is
800-225-5005.

John

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 14:30:33 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Importing a text file into the phone book

Hello

I need to enter a list of names, phone numbers and addresses into
the phone book. It is presently a ascii text file now. Is there
an easy way to import it or will I have to enter them all by hand?

Thanks
John

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 19:45:34 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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1999-05-10-12:30:33 John Musielewicz:
> I need to enter a list of names, phone numbers and addresses into
> the phone book. It is presently a ascii text file now. Is there
> an easy way to import it or will I have to enter them all by hand?

You want gdbload, companion of gdbload, available from S.U.P.E.R.Ý1¨. Highly
recommended. Gdbdump converts a 100/200LX .gdb database file into
Comma-Separated (CSV) format; gdbload loads comma-sep back into a gdb file.
The 100/200LX phonebook format (pdb) is just gdb, with different filename
extension.

-Bennett

Ý1¨ <URL:http://www.palmtop.net/super.html/>

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 15:42:05 -0400
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My 1000CX boot manager has seven choices:

    1. Make a: default drive: process startup files.
    2. Make c: default drive: process startup files.
    3. Make d: default drive: process startup files.

    4. Make a: default drive: do not process startup files.
    5. Make c: default drive: do not process startup files.
    6. Make d: defualt drive: do not process startup files.

    7. Use normal default drive determination(*)

Option 7 starts with a:, then c:, and finally d: looking for a
config.sys file to determine boot device - IIRC.

It is my assumption that choices 4, 5, and 6 would allow you
to "force" a drive to boot a non-DOS OS, choices 1, 2 and 3
would be for DOS. Choice 7 would also be for DOS, but would
allow you to alter the boot sequence based on what is in the
PCMCIA slot.

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter W. Borders <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
Subject: Re: Use any version of DOS on the HPLX


>> My HP 1000CX tells me that you can set ANY drive (a:/e:, c: or d:) as
>> bootable, or in normal mode it scans the "drives" looking for a
>> "config.sys" file and boots off that partition...
<snip>
>I don't think that any of the LX's can actually boot off of another
>drive. The setting you are refering to is just to tell it where to
>find the config.sys and autoexec.bat.

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 16:09:46 -0400
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>
>
> My 1000CX boot manager has seven choices:
>
>     1. Make a: default drive: process startup files.
>     2. Make c: default drive: process startup files.
>     3. Make d: default drive: process startup files.
>
>     4. Make a: default drive: do not process startup files.
>     5. Make c: default drive: do not process startup files.
>     6. Make d: defualt drive: do not process startup files.
>
>     7. Use normal default drive determination(*)
>
> Option 7 starts with a:, then c:, and finally d: looking for a
> config.sys file to determine boot device - IIRC.
>
> It is my assumption that choices 4, 5, and 6 would allow you
> to "force" a drive to boot a non-DOS OS, choices 1, 2 and 3
> would be for DOS. Choice 7 would also be for DOS, but would
> allow you to alter the boot sequence based on what is in the
> PCMCIA slot.

Nope. DOS boots regardless. 1-2 let you decide which config.sys/autoexec
files to use. choices 4-6 will just make one of these drives the default
drive but just goes to dos prompt without processing config.sys and
autoexec. choice 7 probably looks to see if a: drive has config.sys. if it
does it ri=uns it from a:. If not it checks c: and d:.

I think the only method to boot another DOS is to use the same method for
minix. You need to use a boot loader like the 'loadlin.exe' boot loader in
linux.

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 16:09:27 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: does my 200lx is Y2K compatible?
Comments: To: "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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At 11:00 AM 5/10/99 +0300, you wrote:
>
>
>Thanks  Yehuda

The apptbook calander works from 1-JAN-1900 to 31-DEC-2099. It know about
29-FEB-2000.
I think DOS 5.0 valid dates are 1-JAN-1980 to 31-DEC-2079 and it also knows
about 29-FEB-2000.

Owen

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----- Original Message -----
> Date:    Mon, 10 May 1999 04:29:43 GMT
> From:    Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
> Subject: Re: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****
>
> Ken Hansen wrote:
>
> >The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
> >had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
> >mouse on thside.
>
> I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
> superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook
mouse
> I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.

Hear! Hear! - And I'm left-handed!!!!!!

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 16:27:40 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:15 +0200
> From:    Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
> Subject: Fluff over gasprices..was Re: Sorry, no 1000CXs available...
>
> Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
>
> >
> > The world has gone to hell in a hand basket for the oh might
dollar.
> >
> > example: Gas prices here in Las Vegas $1.69 a gallon.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Qman...
> >
>
> I think we here in Norway are closer to hell...
>
Yes, isn't it near Vaernes? ;¬{)#

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 16:32:08 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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>
> Date:    Mon, 10 May 1999 11:22:11 EST
> From:    "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
> Subject: Re: Fluff ****OB 800 CT ****Clone?****
>
> > >The *only* thing I wish my OB800ct
> > >had is a built-in trackpoint instead of that *odd* pop-out
> > >mouse on thside.
> >
> > I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is
the
> > superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook
mouse
> > I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Cameron
>
> I have to agree with the original poster, the pop out mouse is weird
> and a real pain. Here is a test, try using your 800ct in bed, or on
> your lap, or in one hand, or anywhere else that you don't have a flat
> surface beside the computer. If I have to have a flat surface to use
> my PORTABLE computer I might as well use a desktop model.
>
I use it that way all the time - just pop it out, not up, and sort of
cradle it. You tried using a glide-pad or Isopoint while hand-holding a
laptop? Talk about impossible! The Paw works even while you're standing
around talking.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 18:08:59 -0230
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From:                   pyarnell@proaxis.com
Date sent:              Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
To:                     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
        Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
Subject:                Re: Wordperfect

> On Sun, 9 May 1999 21:23:15 -0230, Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET> wrote:
>
> av> Is there a Wordperfect mailing list?  Or, are there any Wordperfect
> av> experts here?
>
> I'm no expert, but I use WP and have a set of manuals. I'd be happy to try
> and answer any questions you have.
>


Many are probably familiar with Pine.  What I was trying to do was
figure out how to do in WP what I do by pressing ¬J in Pine.

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              74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM
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I seem to recall it was a modem by hayes before they went
bankrupt.  dont recall which or what, but i would love to
have one that is faster than 14.4....

dave

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 16:25:57 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fluff Omnibook mouse

> > I can't believe anyone would say that. The pop-out mouse IMHO is the
> > superior notebook solution BY FAR compared to any other notebook
> mouse
> > I've ever seen. It's a close second to a full-size desktop mouse.
>
> Hear! Hear! - And I'm left-handed!!!!!!
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net
>
> Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
>  (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

Personally I don't like desktop mouses (mice? meeses?) either, I use
a logitech trackman marble which is the best trackball I have ever
used. No skipping or catching and it doesn't care about dust and dirt
since it is optical.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 9 May 1999 to 10 May 1999 - Special iss

> > I have to agree with the original poster, the pop out mouse is weird
> > and a real pain. Here is a test, try using your 800ct in bed, or on
> > your lap, or in one hand, or anywhere else that you don't have a flat
> > surface beside the computer. If I have to have a flat surface to use
> > my PORTABLE computer I might as well use a desktop model.
> >
> I use it that way all the time - just pop it out, not up, and sort of
> cradle it. You tried using a glide-pad or Isopoint while hand-holding a
> laptop? Talk about impossible! The Paw works even while you're standing
> around talking.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

I regularly use both glidepoint and toshibas trackpoint while
standing, no problem. No fear of flexing the little stalk too much or
having to grip the mouse while also trying to push the buttons. I had
to replace the mouse on my 300 because the conductive strips cracked
on the stalk that connects the mouse to the computer. Remember the
ideal is NO MOVING PARTS and trackpoints and glidepads come a lot
closer to that goal than a mouse on a stick. I just thought of a name
for the omnibook mouse on a stick, a mousey-pop, like a lolypop but
the stick is shoved up a mouse, ouch. :-)

Pete

PS. It is no suprise to me that HP dropped the mousey-pop and that it
is the single LEAST copied feature on any laptop, kind of makes you
think, doesn't it? If you like it more power to you but I somehow
don't think it was one of HP's greatest successes (the mousey-pop not
the omnibooks themselves, they are pretty nice. I wouldn't mind a 430
for a good price).

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Subject:      Viewing angle of 200LX display

Does anyone know what the viewing angle of the display is? Thanks.

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Use any version of DOS on the HPLX

> My 1000CX boot manager has seven choices:
>
>     1. Make a: default drive: process startup files.
>     2. Make c: default drive: process startup files.
>     3. Make d: default drive: process startup files.
>
>     4. Make a: default drive: do not process startup files.
>     5. Make c: default drive: do not process startup files.
>     6. Make d: defualt drive: do not process startup files.
>
>     7. Use normal default drive determination(*)
>
> Option 7 starts with a:, then c:, and finally d: looking for a
> config.sys file to determine boot device - IIRC.
>
> It is my assumption that choices 4, 5, and 6 would allow you
> to "force" a drive to boot a non-DOS OS, choices 1, 2 and 3
> would be for DOS. Choice 7 would also be for DOS, but would
> allow you to alter the boot sequence based on what is in the
> PCMCIA slot.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com

All of the LX's have the same options, at least >100 I am not sure of
the 95. Setting something as the default drive and processing startup
files is NOT the same as booting off of the drive. There are not many
computers that can boot off of a pcmcia device. The LX's do not read
the boot sector from the pcmcia device and they do not read the
system files from the pcmcia device, they just "process the startup
files", ie autoexec.bat and config.sys.

As you say choice 7 looks for the config.sys file, but by that time
the system files are already loaded and running, it is too late to
boot from the device, you have already booted. This is different from
a desktop or other computer that looks for a bootable device in some
order. I can set my desktop to try the floppy, then the cdrom and
finally the HD but it is not just looking for the config.sys file, it
is looking for a bootable OS. In my desktop example it checks for the
existance of a floppy, if none is loaded it checks for the existance
of a cdrom, then finally it goes to the HD. If I have a non-bootable
floppy the system complains until I remove it. If the LX was actually
trying to boot from the pcmcia card then it would hang or complain
since the pcmcia card is not bootable.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 15:58:00 -0700
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     Greetings,

     I needed to print a memo from my hp200lx and remembered that some
     people have printed to HPLJ6p's from their palmtops! After searching
     the archives I checked SUPER and found "IrDA097.zip". After I loaded
     this (per the README.TXT file) I tried it on a LJ69p. I found that at
     9600 baud it locked up after the led on the printer lit when I pressed
     OK from the print window under Memo. At 115000 baud it started
     scrolling garbage in the Upper left corner of the screen. A 3 finger
     salute was req.. I am using a 6MB DS 200lx with a 48mb CF card. Any
     help appreciated!!!

     TIA

     Joe

     P.S. I tried to talk to a Cassiopeia and a Psion using IR. The Casio
     was a bust but when the Psion tried to link to me, the toolbar in
     Filer appeared to flicker in response to the IR query from the Psion.
     Go Figure?! BTW I was able to install my CF card into the Psion and he
     was able to copy the text file needed and convert it so he could view
     it. Was never able to get the Cassiopeia to read the CF.

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 10 May 1999, Andy wrote:

> Many are probably familiar with Pine.  What I was trying to do was
> figure out how to do in WP what I do by pressing ¬J in Pine.

For those not aquainted with Pine, Ctrl-J is justify or reformat
paragraph.

Normally, WP will do this automatically, but if you import a DOS text file
with CRLF after each line, then it will not work. I don't think
WordPerfect has an automated feature for removing hard returns (not sure
"Hard returns" are correct WP terminology), in any case I've never found
it.

What I always do/did is search for <RETURN> and replace it with nothing
(ie delete all hard returns) this usually works, but will give problems if
you search through more than one paragraph. First selecting a paragraph
(using Alt-F4 or F11) and then choosing "Replace" (F2) should limit the
search to the selected piece of text.



Cheers,

Laust

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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.990511011259.17435A-100000@hler.diku.dk>
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On Tue, 11 May 1999, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Normally, WP will do this automatically, but if you import a DOS text
> file with CRLF after each line, then it will not work. I don't think
> WordPerfect has an automated feature for removing hard returns (not
> sure "Hard returns" are correct WP terminology), in any case I've
> never found it.

I believe it tries to remove hard returns as an option when you import the
file.  There are two ways to import a DOS Text file in the menu:

DOS Text (CR/LF to HRt)
DOS Text (CR/LF to SRt)

Supposedly, CR/LF to SRt will yank in a text file and convert the
paragraph CR/LFs to SRt (soft return) characters, but leave the double
CR/LFs or ÝCR¨ÝLF¨ÝTab¨ combos as HRt (hard return).  This doesn't work
too well for me, even in WordPerfect 8, although WordPerfect 8 seems to
do a better job of it than 5.1.

I wrote a C program a year or two ago to do basically the same thing:
strip out CR/LF combos unless there were two in a row, or unless they were
immediately followed by a tab or at least three spaces.  It worked
reasonably well.

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 21:16:11 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Announce: LXTCP 1.1 and PNR 3.1 released
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>

John Musielewicz writes:
> Can LXNNTP handle multiple news servers?

Yes, for download.  For upload, it just keeps trying to post the
messages until it finds a server that will accept posts to that
newsgroup.  Inelegant, but it works for me (news.hplx.net + Usenet).

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 19:32:07 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect
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In a message dated 5/10/1999 07:22:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
di980769@DIKU.DK writes:

> What I always do/did is search for <RETURN> and replace it with nothing
>  (ie delete all hard returns) this usually works, but will give problems if
>  you search through more than one paragraph.

With any luck, there will be an additional <RETURN> between paragraphs.  In
that case, search for <RETURN><RETURN>, and replace it with a string such as
zzz which does not exist in the document.  Then, replace all the remaining
<RETURN>'s with nothing (or with a space, if its needed.)  When that's done,
go back and replace all the zzz's with <RETURN><RETURN>, and you are done,
without having to do it a paragraph at a time.

(Doesn't work with poetry, though.)

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 19:58:48 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Announce: LXTCP 1.1 and PNR 3.1 released
Comments: To: rwhitby@hplx.net

Rod Whitby writes:
> John Musielewicz writes:
> > Can LXNNTP handle multiple news servers?
>
> Yes, for download.  For upload, it just keeps trying to post the
> messages until it finds a server that will accept posts to that
> newsgroup.  Inelegant, but it works for me (news.hplx.net + Usenet).

Thanks. It'll work for me too.

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On 05-10 06:46am CDT, the following was written:

> Yes, for download.  For upload, it just keeps trying to post the
> messages until it finds a server that will accept posts to that
> newsgroup.  Inelegant, but it works for me (news.hplx.net + Usenet).

Here's the batch file I'm using to accomplish the multiple servers:

@echo off
copy c:\pnr\spool\incoming.jn c:\pnr
copy c:\pnr\spool\hplx.jn c:\pnr\spool\incoming.jn
lxnntp nntp.server=news.hplx.net nntp.username=jeffj nntp.password=password
copy c:\pnr\spool\incoming.jn c:\pnr\spool\hplx.jn
copy c:\pnr\incoming.jn c:\pnr\spool
del c:\pnr\incoming.jn
lxnntp.exe
cd c:\gp
exit

The last two lines return me to the Goin' Postal directory and terminate the
packet driver which Goin' Postal loads.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 20:53:10 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I use IRDA200.ZIP on the HP site and other places, don't remember the URL.

1. Before loading 200 (or 100), I execute in a batch file the following files
from IRDA200

  lamptsr.com /l /i
  comtsr /L

2. Setup - Printer, choose

  115200 baud
  HP LaserJet
  Infrared

3. Now print out of Memo to the HP6P. Have not been able to get Lotus to print.
I just print to a file, open it with memo and print.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Joseph E Buford wrote:

>      Greetings,
>
>      I needed to print a memo from my hp200lx and remembered that some
>      people have printed to HPLJ6p's from their palmtops! After searching
>      the archives I checked SUPER and found "IrDA097.zip". After I loaded
>      this (per the README.TXT file) I tried it on a LJ69p. I found that at
>      9600 baud it locked up after the led on the printer lit when I pressed
>      OK from the print window under Memo. At 115000 baud it started
>      scrolling garbage in the Upper left corner of the screen. A 3 finger
>      salute was req.. I am using a 6MB DS 200lx with a 48mb CF card. Any
>      help appreciated!!!
>
>      TIA
>
>      Joe
>
>      P.S. I tried to talk to a Cassiopeia and a Psion using IR. The Casio
>      was a bust but when the Psion tried to link to me, the toolbar in
>      Filer appeared to flicker in response to the IR query from the Psion.
>      Go Figure?! BTW I was able to install my CF card into the Psion and he
>      was able to copy the text file needed and convert it so he could view
>      it. Was never able to get the Cassiopeia to read the CF.
>
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Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 22:39:12 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect

On Mon, 10 May 1999, Andy wrote:

> Many are probably familiar with Pine.  What I was trying to do was
> figure out how to do in WP what I do by pressing ¬J in Pine.

The comments offered so far are fine, so far as they go, but miss
the fact that Pine's justify command will also handle quoted
material (e.g., text with leading "> " characters).

I expect WordPerfect could do something similar, but it would
take a macro of some sort--nothing is built in.

Ted

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Ken,

The 800cs has a very good Dual Scan screen.  It also helps the battery =
last longer.  I'm not sure there is a different video chip.  I replaced a =
dual scan with a TFT on a Omnibook 4000.  All you had to do was go into =
Windows and check the proper screen used, reboot and all was well (poof =
TFT worked great)     =3DBob=3D

> I am a BIG fan of Active Matrix screens - I think the Dual Scan
> models use a different video chip...

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Curtis,

I agree completely about the great pop-out mouse.  As an example try to =
play solitaire at the same speed with a trackpoint.  I have an IBM =
Thinkpad and an 800CT.  Give my a paw anyday!

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 08:55:58 +0200
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<What I always do/did is search for <RETURN> and replace it with nothing (ie delete all hard returns) this usually works, but will give problems if you search through more than one paragraph. First selecting a paragraph (using Alt-F4 or F11) and then choosing "Replace" (F2) should limit the search to the selected piece of text.>


You can replace it properly if you create the following macro:

replace all <RETURN><RETURN> with <ANYTEXT>
replace all <RETURN> with <SPACE> (only a space)
replace all <ANYTEXT> with <RETURN><RETURN>

So the paragraphs stay intact.

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 18:03:51 +1000
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              Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
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Yes, lots of experts here.

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 18:00:30 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Date resetting to 01-01-1980
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I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically to
01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c: drive. Even
the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.

Anyone else has/had this problem?

I take backups regularly(daily) just to be on the safe side. However, each
such corruption takes a long time to recover from. In addition, I haven't
figured out a way to find out what data was lost between the last backup
and the current time. One method I use for the address book is to VIEW the
file in Filer (using F8) and look at the last entry at the end of the file,
to see up to where my address book is current. However, I suspect that this
is not a very foolproof method. Any suggestions? If I know what is missing,
I can probably try to find the information again and re-enter.

As usual, what you don't know that you do not know is the biggest problem!

Many thanks for your help!

Anand Rao.

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Never ever wait until the 'batteries low' alarm. Recharge your batteries early.

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 19:23:53 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Date resetting to 01-01-1980
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That is what I suspected at first. However, I run my unit almost
exclusively on AC power and have had an almost full set of alkaline
batteries in for quite some time.

Therefore even assuming that the power connector has intermittent
connection problem as someone had a few days ago, there is sufficient juice
in the batteries to keep the show going.

Still boggled!

At 07:08 PM 11-05-99 Tuesday , you wrote:
>Never ever wait until the 'batteries low' alarm. Recharge your batteries
early.
>
>-goe-
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 06:46:19 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Date resetting to 01-01-1980
Comments: To: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Showing us your autoexec.bat and config.sys (if they're a hundred lines or less
total) might help shed some light.

- Longden





Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> on 05/11/99 03:00:30 AM

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Subject:  Date resetting to 01-01-1980




I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically to
01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c: drive. Even
the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.

Anyone else has/had this problem?

I take backups regularly(daily) just to be on the safe side. However, each
such corruption takes a long time to recover from. In addition, I haven't
figured out a way to find out what data was lost between the last backup
and the current time. One method I use for the address book is to VIEW the
file in Filer (using F8) and look at the last entry at the end of the file,
to see up to where my address book is current. However, I suspect that this
is not a very foolproof method. Any suggestions? If I know what is missing,
I can probably try to find the information again and re-enter.

As usual, what you don't know that you do not know is the biggest problem!

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 22:30:40 +0700
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Help!!!  I just bought a new 64 MB Palmtop from Thaddeus and now the
screen is broken at the right hinge.  This has always been harder to
open than my old Palmtop (circa 1995), and I noticed it was cracked
near the hinge Sunday Morning.  When I was called into work that night
I decided to leave my Palmtop home - bad mistake.  My oldest son (aged
7) was angry that I was leaving him for work and decided to modify the
right hinge - he smashed it on the ground and broke it completely off.
Now I'm having to revert back to my 'old' 5MB unit.

What I would like is some suggestions - first, how to fix it.  I don't
think I can fix it with the peices that I have left.  Even if I had
all the pieces, I don't think Super-Glue would work.  I think mostly
my problem is a logistics problem.  I live in Indonesia, somewhat near
Singapore.  Is there a place in Singapore that has, and can repair
upgraded Palmtops?  (My wife will be going through Singapore on her way
to Phuket, Thailand on Saturday).  If that can't work out, where is the
best place to get it fixed in the States?  (We have a guy headed back
in a few days, and I could probably get him to hand carry it.)

The other suggestion I would like is what to do with our son.  A $1,000
Palmtop is not worth as much as he is, but I want to emphasize to him
that his behavior is inappropriate - more than inappropriate.

Thanks for any suggestions,
Steve Soper

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 08:23:59 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Help - Broken Screen
Comments: To: Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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On Tue, 11 May 1999, Steve Soper wrote:

> Help!!!  I just bought a new 64 MB Palmtop from Thaddeus and now the
> screen is broken at the right hinge.  This has always been harder to
> open than my old Palmtop (circa 1995), and I noticed it was cracked
> near the hinge Sunday Morning.  When I was called into work that night
> I decided to leave my Palmtop home - bad mistake.  My oldest son (aged
> 7) was angry that I was leaving him for work and decided to modify the
> right hinge - he smashed it on the ground and broke it completely off.
> Now I'm having to revert back to my 'old' 5MB unit.

What I would probably do, assuming you're comfortable opening it, is swap
the motherboards between units.  That way you'll have your good unit with
the 64MB motherboard in it.  All you have to do is unscrew the bottom
part of the case, remove it, unclip the video cable from the motherboard,
and lift it out.  Then reverse the procedure to put it back in.

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 23:29:56 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Date resetting to 01-01-1980 - files as requested
Comments: To: Longden_Loo@candle.com
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Here they are - sans the comment lines. Mainly the files as they originally
came from HP.

AUTOEXEC.BAT
@echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;a:\bin;d:\bin;d:\dos
assign e:=a:
d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
call d:\bin\llras
200

CONFIG.SYS
buffers=20
files=30
lastdrive=J
device=c:\stacker\stacker.com /P=0 A: B:

Many thanks.......


At 09:46 PM 11-05-99 Tuesday , Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
>
>
>
>Showing us your autoexec.bat and config.sys (if they're a hundred lines or
less
>total) might help shed some light.
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> on 05/11/99 03:00:30 AM
>
>Subject:  Date resetting to 01-01-1980
>

>
>I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically to
>01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c: drive. Even
>the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.
>
>Anyone else has/had this problem?
>
>I take backups regularly(daily) just to be on the safe side. However, each
>such corruption takes a long time to recover from. In addition, I haven't
>figured out a way to find out what data was lost between the last backup
>and the current time. One method I use for the address book is to VIEW the
>file in Filer (using F8) and look at the last entry at the end of the file,
>to see up to where my address book is current. However, I suspect that this
>is not a very foolproof method. Any suggestions? If I know what is missing,
>I can probably try to find the information again and re-enter.
>
>As usual, what you don't know that you do not know is the biggest problem!
>
>
>

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On 05-11 10:30am CDT, the following was written:

> What I would like is some suggestions - first, how to fix it.

PVC cement like is used for PVC piping works well and you may be able to
acutally 'melt' some pvc into the broken area off of a piece of pipe. PVC
plate is also available at platics shops, you could use the glue to soften
it then quickly put it in the affected area.

> The other suggestion I would like is what to do with our son.  A $1,000
> Palmtop is not worth as much as he is, but I want to emphasize to him
> that his behavior is inappropriate - more than inappropriate.

Well.... I have two young children around the same age and I'm a firm
believer in corporal punishment. For mental torture, just take one of his
favorite toys and break it, it sounds mean (and I guess it is) but it WILL
get his attention and teach him to respect Mommy and Daddy's (as well as
others') belongings.

Jeff

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On Tue, 11 May 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Well.... I have two young children around the same age and I'm a firm
> believer in corporal punishment. For mental torture, just take one of
> his favorite toys and break it, it sounds mean (and I guess it is) but
> it WILL get his attention and teach him to respect Mommy and Daddy's
> (as well as others') belongings.

I always preferred the "Fox Trot" method.  You break the computer, no food
for a month.  <g>

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Hi Anand.

The startup files look pretty harmless to me, tho I don't use Stacker and
therefore can't comment on it (maybe someone else can see a problem).

My only other suggestions:

1) Run the built-in ram test:
     - close all your applications
     - turn the LX off
     - press and hold ESC and ON
     - select the RAM test and press ENTER
          (DON'T do the test for "Plug-in RAM card")
     - presumably if there's a RAM problem, a message
          will tell you so...test should last just a few minutes.

2) Backup your C drive and completely reset the LX by removing AA and backup
batteries, and hold the ON key for about a minute to drain the system.

Sorry I don't have any other suggestions. I've had this happen before, but it
usually happens while running a funky DOS program of some sort... if this is
your problem you may have to forgo your DOS apps for a few days and re-introduce
them one by one until you see the problem again.  I've never had this happen to
me using just the built-in apps.

- Longden





Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.Super.NET> on 05/11/99 08:29:56 AM

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cc:
Subject:  Re: Date resetting to 01-01-1980 - files as requested





Here they are - sans the comment lines. Mainly the files as they originally
came from HP.

AUTOEXEC.BAT
@echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;a:\bin;d:\bin;d:\dos
assign e:=a:
d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
call d:\bin\llras
200

CONFIG.SYS
buffers=20
files=30
lastdrive=J
device=c:\stacker\stacker.com /P=0 A: B:

>Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> on 05/11/99 03:00:30 AM
>
>I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically to
>01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c: drive. Even
>the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.

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Hi Steve.

Why not contact Thaddeus about the repair?  They may not warrant problems due to
'acts of god' (or kids), but may have some suggestions as to the best/cheapest
way to get it fixed, especially since you're a customer.

Regarding your son...you're right that the behavior was inappropriate... on the
bright side at least he did it for a reason.  Maybe you can send him in to
Thaddeus for an upgrade to a 20 yr old model (improved judgement).  Well, you
can always make him stand in the corner for 13 years...with time off for good
behavior.

Good luck,

- Longden




Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID> on 05/11/99 08:30:40 AM

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Subject:  Help - Broken Screen




Help!!!  I just bought a new 64 MB Palmtop from Thaddeus and now the
screen is broken at the right hinge.  This has always been harder to
open than my old Palmtop (circa 1995), and I noticed it was cracked
near the hinge Sunday Morning.  When I was called into work that night
I decided to leave my Palmtop home - bad mistake.  My oldest son (aged
7) was angry that I was leaving him for work and decided to modify the
right hinge - he smashed it on the ground and broke it completely off.
Now I'm having to revert back to my 'old' 5MB unit.

What I would like is some suggestions - first, how to fix it.  I don't
think I can fix it with the peices that I have left.  Even if I had
all the pieces, I don't think Super-Glue would work.  I think mostly
my problem is a logistics problem.  I live in Indonesia, somewhat near
Singapore.  Is there a place in Singapore that has, and can repair
upgraded Palmtops?  (My wife will be going through Singapore on her way
to Phuket, Thailand on Saturday).  If that can't work out, where is the
best place to get it fixed in the States?  (We have a guy headed back
in a few days, and I could probably get him to hand carry it.)

The other suggestion I would like is what to do with our son.  A $1,000
Palmtop is not worth as much as he is, but I want to emphasize to him
that his behavior is inappropriate - more than inappropriate.

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> CONFIG.SYS
> buffers=20

Since the disks on the LX are already RAM disks is there any
benefit to using more RAM to 'buffer' the disk accesses?

I dropped the BUFFER statement from my Config.Sys long ago and I
don't think I've noticed and difference in my 200LX-4M 1X.

cheers... Russ

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Do you play games on it?  Wasn't there a bug in a new game in
the last year that caused the date to be reset?  There wasn't
any disk corruption caused though, just the date getting screwed up.

cheers... Russ

> I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically to
> 01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c: drive. Even

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Jon Barrett wrote:

> >
> > I think we here in Norway are closer to hell...
> >
> Yes, isn't it near Vaernes? ;¬{)#
>
> Jon
>

Sorry I meant to say "Hell", and yes you are right...  :-))))

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

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I think this subject was brought up before (disk caching in general).

Disk access is slower (than internal RAM) on some PC cards so the buffering
should make a difference for cards (tho not nearly to the extent as for a
mechanical drive).

Other than that, there's also the fact that repeat accesses to the same disk
sector are picked up more readily from the buffer without the overhead of file
handling operations for disk.

OTOH, if the type of work you do doesn't involve repeat operations on the same
disk area, buffering may not help you much.  I'm not sure if BUFFERS is also
used as a "look ahead" buffer, but if it is then it would help most read
operations, tho YMMV depending on which RAM you were going after (card vs
internal).

- Longden





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> CONFIG.SYS
> buffers=20

Since the disks on the LX are already RAM disks is there any
benefit to using more RAM to 'buffer' the disk accesses?

I dropped the BUFFER statement from my Config.Sys long ago and I
don't think I've noticed and difference in my 200LX-4M 1X.

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Subject:                Re: Wordperfect
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> In a message dated 5/10/1999 07:22:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> di980769@DIKU.DK writes:
>
> > What I always do/did is search for <RETURN> and replace it with nothing
> >  (ie delete all hard returns) this usually works, but will give problems
> >  if you search through more than one paragraph.
>
> With any luck, there will be an additional <RETURN> between paragraphs.
> In that case, search for <RETURN><RETURN>, and replace it with a string
> such as zzz which does not exist in the document.  Then, replace all the

I do that, and it says <RETURN><RETURN> Not found.

> remaining <RETURN>'s with nothing (or with a space, if its needed.)  When
> that's done, go back and replace all the zzz's with <RETURN><RETURN>, and
> you are done, without having to do it a paragraph at a time.
>
> (Doesn't work with poetry, though.)
>
> Cordially,
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish
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On Tue, 11 May 1999, Andy wrote:

> I do that, and it says <RETURN><RETURN> Not found.

Are you actually typing in <RETURN>?  You should be pressing Enter, and it
would show up as ÝHRt¨ in the Search line.

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The RQ-150.GIF file that was giving folks CRC errors can be retrieved here:

http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/RQ-150.GIF

The cia-1998.zip file has been updated with the new file. Hopefully this fixes
things.

Thanks to David Lawrence for the hard work in getting this thing all together.
--
Mitch
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There is a known conflict between Assign and Stacker.  Do not use the
Assign command in autoexec.bat.  If you need its facility find a copy of
Subst from a dos 5 setup somewhere.

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Subject:      Converting PowerPoint

Hi all,

What's the best way to look at PowerPoint presentations on
the LX?

I just tried "exporting to HTML" and, good heavens is the
export poor quality <experimented w/ GIF and JPEG, both
looked REALLY bad on the PC. The LX couldn't do anything to
make it look better!

PowerPoint has an option to save a presentation as a GIF or
JPEG; but, if the conversion there is as crappy as the export
to HTML, it's not going to do it. I can do a screen capture
of a slideshow, but that's a one-at-a-time process and I
don't want to do this w/ 96+ slide presentations (purpose is
for my reading slides others create and they use a mix of
text and graphics that I can't control, or I'd do an export
of the text outline <that loses the graphic parts of the
presentation--in some cases, entire slides, minus maybe a
title>).

Something tells me this'll prob. involve 3rd party software
at a cost. If it's not too expensive, I may be able to
justify prying open my wallet.   :-)

TIA,

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Subject:      Filer.ini Question

Quick (I hope) question about the filer.ini.

It's VERY much bigger, more detailed than it used to be (a
function of Super Software Carousel installation?).

The <ENTER> and open the file in the right program part works
WONDERFULLY ... except for one: The database files.

Example - The line:

     ICN=D:\bin\icn200lx.exe %

works fine. When I highlight an Icon (.ICN) file and hit
<ENTER>, the icon editor starts up and loads that file....

The line:

     gdb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %

Doesn't seem to work as well. While the dbase viewer opens,
it loads the last file I was looking at, no matter what file
I was trying to highlight and open.

I thought the percent sign ensured the highlighted file name
was captured and stuffed into the applicable program, as it
opens.

Any suggestions? ÝI apologize in advance if this one's been
covered ad nauseum in the past¨.

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Hi Tim.

On my Filer.ini, I have:

     gdb=a:\utl\dbv.exe %1

And this works for me.

All my other entries use just "%" like yours, so I'm not sure why I added the
"%1" instead...but there must have been a reason...I'm not creative enough to do
that on my own<G>.

- Longden





"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL> on 05/11/99 11:27:27
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Subject:  Filer.ini Question




Quick (I hope) question about the filer.ini.

It's VERY much bigger, more detailed than it used to be (a
function of Super Software Carousel installation?).

The <ENTER> and open the file in the right program part works
WONDERFULLY ... except for one: The database files.

Example - The line:

     ICN=D:\bin\icn200lx.exe %

works fine. When I highlight an Icon (.ICN) file and hit
<ENTER>, the icon editor starts up and loads that file....

The line:

     gdb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %

Doesn't seem to work as well. While the dbase viewer opens,
it loads the last file I was looking at, no matter what file
I was trying to highlight and open.

I thought the percent sign ensured the highlighted file name
was captured and stuffed into the applicable program, as it
opens.

Any suggestions? ÝI apologize in advance if this one's been
covered ad nauseum in the past¨.

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 22:33:40 +0200
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Hi!

I have similair problems. I can't get filer to autoload HV.exe for HTML
files. That is, I could before my 200 crashed last week. I forgot to
back up my settings and programs. I can't get it to work again, not even
with buddy.

Thanks!
jasper

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 13:39:39 -0700
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So the million dollar question.... do you have some thing like:

     htm=c:\www\hv.exe %

in your filer.ini?  (with whatever your real path is for hv.exe, of course)

- Longden





Jasper de Jong <jsdejong@WXS.NL> on 05/11/99 01:33:40 PM

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Hi!

I have similair problems. I can't get filer to autoload HV.exe for HTML
files. That is, I could before my 200 crashed last week. I forgot to
back up my settings and programs. I can't get it to work again, not even
with buddy.

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 23:03:00 +0200
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> So the million dollar question.... do you have some thing like:
>      htm=c:\www\hv.exe %
>
> in your filer.ini?  (with whatever your real path is for hv.exe, of course)

Yep. I can't see anything wrong there.
Strange...

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 17:06:54 -0400
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Subject:      Connection success with palmtop.com :-)

Hi All,

  I got ahold of Martin Paul in person tonight and after admitting that
he had run out of ideas on how to connect with my modem, he suddenly
mentioned the possibility of checking out www.ccmail.com. He checked that
site while I was on the phone with him and he said that it looked
promising, so he suggested that I check it out, too.

  After we hung up, I checked out that site. Clicking on support and
clicking on the modem selection, it offered a download of mdm.zip.
Mdm.zip ended up containing tons of mdm files, 3 of which are supposed to
be compatible with my Motorola Power 14.4 Cellular modem (Model: Cellect
14.4 PCMCIA):

MTRLI14P.MDM - Motorola Lifestyle 14.4 PCMCIA
MTRUFT96.MDM - Motorola UDS FasTalk V.32 & V.42bis 9600
MTRUFTBX.MDM - Motorola UDS FasTalk 32bx

  I tried the MTRLI14P.MDM file and set CC:Mail's setup baud rate to
19200. That didn't work, but when I set the baud rate to 9600 baud in
setup, it worked great!

  I'll probably experiment with the other 2 mdm files to see if they will
allow a 14.4 connection, but I've got my connection now. :-)

  I left a voice mail for Martin Paul of ESP Mail tech support suggesting
that he put a link to that zip file from either the ESP Mail webpage or
the Palmtop.com webpage.

  Please post about it if you also find a match or compatible match for
your particular modems from within the downloadable mdm.zip archive.

  My initial registration message went out to Palmtop.com from my HP200LX
tonight, so now all I have to do is figure out how to pickup awaiting
email with CC:Mail and then just wait for their welcome message which
will announce that my new email account is active. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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>Something tells me this'll prob. involve 3rd party software
>at a cost. If it's not too expensive, I may be able to
>justify prying open my wallet.   :-)


Have a look at WinBatch from Wilson Windowware. www.winbatch.com. Ought to
do what you want...

Have a nice day!

Franklin

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 00:49:52 +0200
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Someone asked for images of a hp200 to be freely used.
I took some images with our X-ray machine while doing some service on it.
they are at:
http://hem.fyristorg.com/hello
use them as You please.

I have never done a homepage before.Dont coment the design ;->
The original bmp images looks a bit better than the gif that word97
made. :-<

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Subject:      Re: Announce: LXTCP 1.1 and PNR 3.1 released
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> Here's the batch file I'm using to accomplish the multiple servers:
> copy c:\pnr\spool\incoming.jn c:\pnr
> copy c:\pnr\spool\hplx.jn c:\pnr\spool\incoming.jn
> lxnntp nntp.server=news.hplx.net nntp.username=jeffj nntp.password=password
> copy c:\pnr\spool\incoming.jn c:\pnr\spool\hplx.jn
> copy c:\pnr\incoming.jn c:\pnr\spool
> del c:\pnr\incoming.jn

With the new version, you can use a single line instead:

lxnntp newsrc=hplx.jn nntp.server=news.hplx.net ...

The lxnntp.newsrc configuration option is new in version 1.1 of LXTCP.

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Every time I start Filer on my HP200LX, it has the C:\  root directory =
on the left side of the display and the A:\  root directory on the =
right.
=20
Is there an obvious way to make the Filer program default to another =
directory other than the root directory?
=20
I've used the default way for years, but, I'd like to make it so that =
when I start Filer it automatically goes to a specific set of =
directories.
=20
I didn't see anything in the user manual. Have I missed something =
obvious?
=20
I know that I can use macros to navigate the paths for me, but somehow =
that just seems to be a work-around.

Paul_Stratton
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>

<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =
HTML//EN">
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Every time I start =
Filer on my=20
HP200LX, it has the C:\&nbsp; root directory on the left side of the =
display and=20
the A:\&nbsp; root directory on the right.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there an obvious way =
to make the=20
Filer program default to another directory other than the root=20
directory?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>I've used the default =
way for years,=20
but, I'd like to make it so that when I start Filer it automatically =
goes to a=20
specific set of directories.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>I didn't see anything =
in the user=20
manual. Have I missed something obvious?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>I know that I can use =
macros to=20
navigate the paths for me, but somehow that just seems to be a=20
work-around.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Paul_Stratton</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:paul_stratton@email.msn.com">paul_stratton@email.msn.com</=
A></FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 01:34:25 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Motorola CELLect 14.4 Pocket Modem questions:
Comments: To: Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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<<I know that some list members are using this model. I just procured
one from ebay and am awaiting its arrival. Its coming with a cable for
motorola cell phones but I don't know with which ones it will work. I
currently have a startac 3000 (cheapo version). Here are my questions:

  - How well does this unit work with the LX?>>

Fine.

>>  - Is there a source for alternate cell phone cables for this modem?

I have used it with the older but current flip phone and hear that it
does not work with the startac phone but maybe that is just a cable
issue.  I don't think cables are available.

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Subject:      Re: Connection success with palmtop.com :-)
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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> 19200. That didn't work, but when I set the baud rate to 9600 baud in
> setup, it worked great!

Just for curiousity - how does that file differ from the ones you were
trying and the ones you "edited" to try?  I recall on cis, our cc:mail
guru (since gone) said the mdm files were very very specific.  He use to
have a ton of them for every need! (G)

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Date:         Tue, 11 May 1999 22:08:22 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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Hello everyone.
Has anyone been succesful doing the above? If so can you coment on it?

TIA

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Hi:

I am trying to do some programming on the 200 using Turbo C V2.0 and
the nkit software. I can compile the sample applications correctly, as
long as I'm not using floating point stuff. As soon as I try, I get a
cascade of errors from the linker that seem to imply that it isn't
seeing the floating point libraries. Has anyone run into this? I think
that i have everything installed correctly.=20


Thanks

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Subject:      Re: Help - Broken Screen

I would recommend trying HP in Singapore. That is where the 200lx is
made. It wouldn't hurt. You might be able to get parts there.

David Peterson

On Tue, 11 May 1999 22:30:40 +0700 Steve Soper
<ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID> writes:
>Help!!!  I just bought a new 64 MB Palmtop from Thaddeus and now the
>screen is broken at the right hinge.  This has always been harder to
>open than my old Palmtop (circa 1995), and I noticed it was cracked
>near the hinge Sunday Morning.  When I was called into work that night
>I decided to leave my Palmtop home - bad mistake.  My oldest son (aged
>7) was angry that I was leaving him for work and decided to modify the
>right hinge - he smashed it on the ground and broke it completely off.
>Now I'm having to revert back to my 'old' 5MB unit.
>
>What I would like is some suggestions - first, how to fix it.  I don't
>think I can fix it with the peices that I have left.  Even if I had
>all the pieces, I don't think Super-Glue would work.  I think mostly
>my problem is a logistics problem.  I live in Indonesia, somewhat near
>Singapore.  Is there a place in Singapore that has, and can repair
>upgraded Palmtops?  (My wife will be going through Singapore on her
>way
>to Phuket, Thailand on Saturday).  If that can't work out, where is
>the
>best place to get it fixed in the States?  (We have a guy headed back
>in a few days, and I could probably get him to hand carry it.)
>
>The other suggestion I would like is what to do with our son.  A
>$1,000
>Palmtop is not worth as much as he is, but I want to emphasize to him
>that his behavior is inappropriate - more than inappropriate.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions,
>Steve Soper
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My filer.ini is empty. What is the name of the section etc.? Has it to be like in Windows ini-files (for example Ýload¨ ?)

-goe-

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 04:16:57 -0700
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On Tue, 11 May 1999 19:41:04 -0500, Paul_Stratton <Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN=
.COM> wrote:

> Every time I start Filer on my HP200LX, it has the C:\  root directory
> on the left side of the display and the A:\  root directory on the
> right.
>
> Is there an obvious way to make the Filer program default to another
> directory other than the root directory?
>
> I've used the default way for years, but, I'd like to make it so that
> when I start Filer it automatically goes to a specific set of
> directories.


Hi Paul_Stratton,

I don't have the anwser to your question, but instead a suggestion.

Download and install X-Finder, with X-Finder you have more control over
your system (what appears where, how it looks etc.).

X-Finder - coming to a palmtop near you, check your local Mailing List.
The Stuff is Out There! (:-)





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On Wed, 12 May 1999 10:14:04 +0200, "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATAC=
OMM.CH> wrote:

> My filer.ini is empty. What is the name of the section etc.? Has it to =
be like in Windows ini-files (for example Ýload¨ ?)
>
> -goe-
>
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Since your new to filer.ini. I suggested you download Ed Keefe's Choice.lx=
b
from the SUPER Site. Choice.lxb  comes with a pre-configed filer.ini and =
has
a Menu type interface. Choice.lxb is a must have for the palmtop
second to X-Finder.

Choice.lxd held the #1 position for a long time on my palmtop and is
second to only one. (:-)


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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 09:06:22 -0400
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              Scott Dunaway <sdunaway@FORD.COM>
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Has anybody tried to design a laser pointer into to HPLX?

I don't have one, but noticed they run on a couple of 1.5v batteries and
the laser mechanism might be small enough to go into the empty area on the
lower left rear corner of the palmtop.  This area, beyond the end of the
battery cage on the PC Card side, was used for a earphone jack mod.  That
and a recent comment about carrying a separate laser pointer gave me the
idea.

Happy engineering!

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Comments: To: Scott Dunaway <sdunaway@FORD.COM>
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              Wed, May 12, 1999 at 09:06:22AM -0400
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1999-05-12-13:06:22 Scott Dunaway:
> Has anybody tried to design a laser pointer into to HPLX?
>
> I don't have one, but noticed they run on a couple of 1.5v batteries and
> the laser mechanism might be small enough to go into the empty area on the
> lower left rear corner of the palmtop.

Ooh! Ooh! And while you're at it, make it an IR laser, so we can solve the
range problem with using the LX as a remote control. Change the channel on
every TV in your neighborhood with one good bounce!

Sorry, I'll go away now. :-)

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This may be a 'dumb' question for those of you that use 1-2-3 on a regular
basis, so please bear with me.

I have a need to use 1-2-3, or at least I think I do, to enter some items
which have a 'inventory number' then two lines (cells) of alphanumeric
description, then a price and a cost. This is a project I am trying to help
my wife with. We would like to have the first cell sort the 'inventory
numbers' into numerical order. The 'inventory number is 8 digits long. Here
are my questions:

1) Can it sort the first field by numerical order?

2) What is the max character length for the cells so I can enter
   descriptions in two cells next to the inventory number?

Thanks for any and all input!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 07:25:24 +800
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              Gary Jacek <Gary_Jacek@BC.SYMPATICO.CA>
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On 1999-05-11 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >Well.... I have two young children around the same age and I'm a
   >firm believer in corporal punishment. For mental torture, just take
   >one of his favorite toys and break it, it sounds mean (and I guess
   >it is) but it WILL get his attention and teach him to respect Mommy
   >and Daddy's (as well as others') belongings.

What does a 7 year old do when old Dad runs his
complete set of Pokemon Cards through the laundry?
(I didn't check the pockets first)

Its interesting when your 7 year old gives you a lesson
in forgiveness.

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 07:25:41 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Hi Jeff.

1) Yes you can sort the field in numerical order (/DataSort)

2) Max char length of a column is 240 (/WorksheetColumnSetwidth)

The 123 way of doing things pre-dates Excel, so it may take some getting used
to.

In using /DataSort , you'll have to
- define the range of cells to be sorted (including the sort column and the data
columns)
- define which column holds the sort keys
- decide on acsending/descending
- then "Go" to do the sort

Presumably you want to do calculations later, or want to export it to a desktop,
since the function you're trying to do is better handled with the built-in GDB.

- Longden





Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> on 05/12/99 06:53:01 AM

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Subject:  1-2-3 Question




This may be a 'dumb' question for those of you that use 1-2-3 on a regular
basis, so please bear with me.

I have a need to use 1-2-3, or at least I think I do, to enter some items
which have a 'inventory number' then two lines (cells) of alphanumeric
description, then a price and a cost. This is a project I am trying to help
my wife with. We would like to have the first cell sort the 'inventory
numbers' into numerical order. The 'inventory number is 8 digits long. Here
are my questions:

1) Can it sort the first field by numerical order?

2) What is the max character length for the cells so I can enter
   descriptions in two cells next to the inventory number?

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 09:42:42 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <Phil_Drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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You can sort by any one column, or 123 will do a sort using columns in a
"this then this" order.

The maximum number of characters that can be in any one cell is 255.  I use
the name of a file to reference when the information exceeds the 255 char
limit.

An additional note, you can set the column width to what ever you want so
things like serial numbers and descriptions will "look" ok on the screen.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
>
> 1) Can it sort the first field by numerical order?
>
> 2) What is the max character length for the cells so I can enter
>    descriptions in two cells next to the inventory number?
>
> Jeff
>

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Anand-

I think we have all experienced a similar episode.  I
can't offer any suggestions about solving the stated
problem (beyond what has already been suggested),
but I do have a couple of suggestions to
help you survive while you are working it out.

You say you are backing up you LX every day.  I
would suggest that you write a small backup batch
file that will copy all your frequently accessed files
from c: to somewhere on the A: drive, and run that
batch file once an HOUR.  That way you will only be
out an hour's work and will have a better idea of what
files you touched in the last hour.  The batch script
will only take a few seconds to run (YMMV) and you can
set the system timer to remind you every hour or so.

Another interim suggestion is to do most of your work
on the A; drive.  It will be a little slower, but if A  is
unaffected by the problem, then you will be that much
more secure.  And this might actually help you isolate the
problem.

Dennis Bell
Seattle

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 11:17:35 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> Yes, QRAM can create a 64KB High RAM area. It seems that it does. But
> afterwards, if config.sys tries to highload a driver, or if it wants to use
> the HMA, it tells me 'corrupted High RAM'. Perhaps it needs an option,
> because there is not standard RAM in the LX. But unfortunately it seems,
> that it won't work.

> -goe-

If I understand this correctly, HMA is the first 64k
above the 1 megabyte limit.  HIMEM.SYS accesses this
through the use of the A20 address line on 286 and above
processors.  The 186 doesn't have an A20 line, so HMA
is impossible.  Upper memory blocks (UMB) are created
on the 386 and above (by EMM386.EXE) by remapping memory
to appear in the upper memory areas (or in some cases
by activating shadow RAM).  This uses the protected mode
of the X86 CPU to intercept memory accesses to the upper
memory regions and redirect them to some other memory.
Unless the Hornet chip has the remapping capability to
place memory into the UMB, there cannot be UMB's on the
200LX.  It has some remapping obviously, but what its
limits are, and how to access it are unknown to me.
This would be extremely specific to the Hornet chip.
QRAM seems to be fooled by the fact that 186's have a
286 instruction set except for the protected mode stuff.

Steve

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              "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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<The 186 doesn't have an A20 line, so HMA
is impossible.>

It _IS_ possible with QRAM only and installed EMS.
As I mentioned earlier, the High RAM is _EMULATED_.

Is EMS possible on the LX? Normally one would say "no", if there wasn't EMM240 ...

As I know, an 8088 or 8086 can not more than a 80186.
But QRAM worked very well on some 8088 and 8086 that had EMS installed.

The problem, I think, is, that the region above is used on a nonstandard way by the LX. Some of the SysMan stuff is there.

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 10:02:49 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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For anybody looking for a 2MB 200LX, just found these for sale on the
palmtop newsgroup.

Good Luck!

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: Sputnik <sputnik@voicenet.com>
Subject: FS: 200LX's FORSALE
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:48:56 GMT

 i have about 3 or 4 200LX 2Meg units forsale. All but one unit were for
backups $200 +sh


--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 11:06:02 -0600
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              Dan Sommer <dansommer@HOME.COM>
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From:         Dan Sommer <dansommer@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: IR printing from Dos
Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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I've been watching this list for the last few months and I've yet to find
someone that has been able to do IrDA from DOS.  I for one would be very
interested in finding someone that has been able to accomplish the task.


-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 8:08 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: IR printing from Dos


Hello everyone.
Has anyone been succesful doing the above? If so can you coment on it?

TIA

Domingo

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 19:32:57 +0000
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Hi everyone !!

        I often use the Com1 in order to send data file to a PC. I always
use the AC adaptor too. But, when you  take out the alkaline
batteries, the Hp .......  HANG UP !!! Only with ctrl+Shift+ON i can
recover the palmtop.
        I have made several test and this only happens  when the serial port
is running. Should not the batteries and the AC adaptor be
independent ??

Regards, Fran

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 13:40:54 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: IR printing from Dos
Comments: To: Dan Sommer <dansommer@HOME.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <000901be9c99$b8b8ca00$8c200018@C171880-A.saltlk1.ut.home.com>;
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Quoting Dan Sommer (dansommer@HOME.COM):
> I've been watching this list for the last few months and I've yet to find
> someone that has been able to do IrDA from DOS.  I for one would be very
> interested in finding someone that has been able to accomplish the task.

This one works fine; I have tried it myself with a HP 5MP:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/hp-irda.zip?dbname=hp-irda.zip&URL=http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/hp-irda.zip
--
Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 15:33:20 EDT
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I recently joined this group,  and I have the same 200lx problem.  There
seems to be no pattern, the screen goes blank and when rebooted
(cntrl-shft-on) it is reset to 1/1/80.   I have a DS 8meg 200lx with stacker
and a compressed HP 10 meg card and I use Maxdos.  Assign is remmed out and
my config and autoexec are similar.

Of additional interest when I did the suggested RAM check the menu that
appeared had most of the words misspelt. eg.   prgss for press and ENTEP for
ENTER .
Comments welcome.  TIA
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Whoofa! that's not good. There's a guy on the Libretto mailing list that was
trying to do an overclock and reported something similar. I think someone
suggested that this could be a single broken pin that causes character
values to be altered. Sorry to say, but, time for a $125 thaddeus
special....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Lambert Ýmailto:Cgldent@AOL.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 3:33 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Date resetting to 01-01-1980
>
>
> I recently joined this group,  and I have the same 200lx
> problem.  There
> seems to be no pattern, the screen goes blank and when rebooted
> (cntrl-shft-on) it is reset to 1/1/80.   I have a DS 8meg
> 200lx with stacker
> and a compressed HP 10 meg card and I use Maxdos.  Assign is
> remmed out and
> my config and autoexec are similar.
>
> Of additional interest when I did the suggested RAM check the
> menu that
> appeared had most of the words misspelt. eg.   prgss for
> press and ENTEP for
> ENTER .
> Comments welcome.  TIA
> Colin Lambert
>
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: IR printing from Dos

Dan Sommer writes:
> I've been watching this list for the last few months and I've yet to find
> someone that has been able to do IrDA from DOS.  I for one would be very
> interested in finding someone that has been able to accomplish the task.

I have been able to do irda printing from dos. I used the dos irda printing
driver from the super site and a HP 340 deskjet. Printed from WP 5.1, Paledit,
and Arachne. The only problem is it
is too slow for me so I switched to a parallel port card which is three times
as fast...

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 15:42:42 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Of additional interest when I did the suggested RAM check the menu that
> appeared had most of the words misspelt. eg.   prgss for press and ENTEP
for
> ENTER .

That is quite normal as the speed upgrade driver isn't running at that time.

Cheers,
Mack

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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Jeff Johns:
>>1) Can it sort the first field by numerical order?
As long as the numbers are entered as numbers (no alphabetic or space
characters, etc) you can sort the numbers. You might want to format the
column as Range Format Fixed 0. You may also have to widen the column. =

Numeric data will be right justified: alpha data is left justified by
default. That's a quick way to tell whether the data is numeric or
alphanumeric. Capiche?

>>2) What is the max character length for the cells so I can enter
   descriptions in two cells next to the inventory number?
The maximum width for a column and hence the max char length is 240 =


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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 21:50:03 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Someone asked for images of a hp200 to be freely used.
> I took some images with our X-ray machine while doing some service on it.

Very interesting pictures, thanks!

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 00:08:30 +0200
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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              processor" at May 12, 99 00:00:03 am
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I've heard that I can use either the 2216-1 or 2216-2 on
my hp200lx;  is it true that the version with the bnc
connector is too much power consuming?
Can you help me in the choice, dear palmtoppers?
I'd like to point out the fact that the db.hplx.net site
isn't working properly, and I can't access the ethernet cards
section.
Thank u very much

                Raffaele

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 18:29:23 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Paulo Custodio and I have been putting our heads together on this icon server I
mentioned a week or so ago and have a beta for you to try out:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons

It is download only right now, but Paulo is working on adding upload
capability. He might also pipe in with some search tips. There are 407
icons online and through the wizardry of perl, the script (all in one
fell swoop) converts the ICN files to a custom imagemap and generates the
page with the download targets in the imagemap. It is some very cool perl.

Palmtop.Net strikes again! :)
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 15:50:46 -0700
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: IR printing from Dos
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I printed today from WordPerfect 5.1 in dos using the Jeteye driver from the
Super site.
I was printing to a HP laserjet 2100.

Dan Sommer wrote:

> I've been watching this list for the last few months and I've yet to find
> someone that has been able to do IrDA from DOS.  I for one would be very
> interested in finding someone that has been able to accomplish the task.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 8:08 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: IR printing from Dos
>
> Hello everyone.
> Has anyone been succesful doing the above? If so can you coment on it?
>
> TIA
>
> Domingo
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 19:28:55 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Connection success with Palmtop.com :-)

Hi Fjkaufman,

>> 19200. That didn't work, but when I set the baud rate to 9600 baud in
>> setup, it worked great!
>
>Just for curiousity - how does that file differ from the ones you were
>trying and the ones you "edited" to try?  I recall on cis, our cc:mail
>guru (since gone) said the mdm files were very very specific.  He use to
>have a ton of them for every need! (G)

  It's very different and much larger than the generic mdm file that
comes with the HP200LX. If you run across that "guru" again and find that
he has more than are available on the ccmail website, please grab a copy
of those mdm files so others here will be able to find them when they
need them.

  I've accomplished my goal now. Combined with a free Freeway long
distance account, this does truly offer free email access for all in the
US with a HP200LX. :-) I won't be looking any further into running the
Juno software on the HP200LX.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 16:45:54 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 13 May 1999, Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> I've heard that I can use either the 2216-1 or 2216-2 on
> my hp200lx;  is it true that the version with the bnc
> connector is too much power consuming?
> Can you help me in the choice, dear palmtoppers?

Go for the 2216-1.  It's a lot smaller and lower power-consuming.

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 17:07:00 -0700
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              jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM
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     Greetings,

     Does anyone know of conflicts between Irda200(or Irda097) and any
     other TSR's? Specifically "Buddy", "Batlog", "Killmsg", "ABC/LX" and
     "spd31"?

     Any Info Appreciated

     Joe

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 20:24:20 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Very nice!  Is there a way to just see all of them?

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) ÝSMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 5:29 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Icon Server Online
>
> Paulo Custodio and I have been putting our heads together on this icon
> server I
> mentioned a week or so ago and have a beta for you to try out:
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons
>
> It is download only right now, but Paulo is working on adding upload
> capability. He might also pipe in with some search tips. There are 407
> icons online and through the wizardry of perl, the script (all in one
> fell swoop) converts the ICN files to a custom imagemap and generates
> the
> page with the download targets in the imagemap. It is some very cool
> perl.
>
> Palmtop.Net strikes again! :)
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 21:38:21 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Icon Server Online
Comments: To: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <2B24B1089184D111B2A90000F6AA27B30178CFB7@memex1.harrahs.com>;
              from Steve Dowell on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:24:20PM -0500
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> Very nice!  Is there a way to just see all of them?

Just enter a blank search string.
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 21:04:40 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Ok.  I'll bite.  What is a 'free Freeway long distance account?'

Sean


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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 22:02:43 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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What, are you serious?

Maybe they could just make a platform independent
laser pointer into a PCMCIA card, then it could be used
in ANY laptop (I can just see folks at presentations
swinging their thinkpads around to make a point!)...

There must be a better way to drain the batteries...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Dunaway <sdunaway@FORD.COM>
Subject: Palm Pointer


>Has anybody tried to design a laser pointer into to HPLX?
>
>I don't have one, but noticed they run on a couple of 1.5v batteries and
>the laser mechanism might be small enough to go into the empty area on the
>lower left rear corner of the palmtop.  This area, beyond the end of the
>battery cage on the PC Card side, was used for a earphone jack mod.  That
>and a recent comment about carrying a separate laser pointer gave me the
>idea.
>
>Happy engineering!

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 21:33:52 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Palm Pointer

Why not replace the ir led with a laser? Get better range.


Ken Hansen writes:
> What, are you serious?
>
> Maybe they could just make a platform independent
> laser pointer into a PCMCIA card, then it could be used
> in ANY laptop (I can just see folks at presentations
> swinging their thinkpads around to make a point!)...
>
> There must be a better way to drain the batteries...
>
> Ken
> khansen@njcc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Dunaway <sdunaway@FORD.COM>
> Subject: Palm Pointer
>
>
> >Has anybody tried to design a laser pointer into to HPLX?
> >
> >I don't have one, but noticed they run on a couple of 1.5v batteries and
> >the laser mechanism might be small enough to go into the empty area on the
> >lower left rear corner of the palmtop.  This area, beyond the end of the
> >battery cage on the PC Card side, was used for a earphone jack mod.  That
> >and a recent comment about carrying a separate laser pointer gave me the
> >idea.
> >
> >Happy engineering!
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 23:39:29 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Fluff: Re: Palm Pointer

   >What, are you serious?
   >Maybe they could just make a platform independent
   >laser pointer into a PCMCIA card, then it could be used
   >in ANY laptop (I can just see folks at presentations
   >swinging their thinkpads around to make a point!)...
   >There must be a better way to drain the batteries...
Message-Id: <19990513033927.HBRT5078@Ý12.72.154.71¨>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 03:39:27 +0000

Well, a Taser accessory comes to mind <g>.

Computing and mobile self defense at your command!

Can jump starting the car and emergency CPR be far behind?

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 23:03:27 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-12 10:39pm CDT, the following was written:

> Well, a Taser accessory comes to mind <g>.
>
> Computing and mobile self defense at your command!

Hey Mack, if you are reading this do you think you can handle the hardware
part of this project? You and I could use it the next time we bust a
'crackhead' at the 'Hellhole' <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 23:21:26 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Hey Mack, if you are reading this do you think you can handle the hardware
> part of this project? You and I could use it the next time we bust a
> 'crackhead' at the 'Hellhole' <g>.

I'm already working on it. I just can't figure out now where to put the gun
powder. :-)

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 12 May 1999 12:23:00 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: does my 200lx is Y2K compatible?

Owen Samuelson writes:
> At 11:00 AM 5/10/99 +0300, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Thanks  Yehuda
>
> The apptbook calander works from 1-JAN-1900 to 31-DEC-2099. It know about
> 29-FEB-2000.
> I think DOS 5.0 valid dates are 1-JAN-1980 to 31-DEC-2079 and it also knows
> about 29-FEB-2000.
>
> Owen
>
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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 17:15:35 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups
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I have been having this problem of spontaneous corruption of files on the c:
drive and some of you have offered their valuable advice. As far as I know this
topic is not covered in the FAQ. And therefore this attempt to consolidate all
related ideas to help anyone who has this problem in the future.

The problem as faced by me, and a few other who have responded, is:

1.   Data files get corrupted spontaneously and refuse to load under the
     applications concerned.

2.   GARLIC does not fix these problems.

3.   Executable files too get corrupted and show garbled characters on the
     screen upon execution.  I have had this happen to pkzip.exe as well as the
built-in apps.
     The size of the executable files does not change, though.

4.   CHKDSK /F does not fix this problem.  It detects no errors.

5.   The only way out is to do a hard reset (CTRL+SHIFT+ON) and re-load data
     files from the back-up.

The feedback from Thaddeus is that this is not likely a hardware problem.
Therefore, two possibilities remain - software and usage.

I have received some suggestions to handle these situations. These are
summarised below, with a few comments from my side. After they are refined by
feedback from all the experts, we may want to include them in the
excellent FAQ maintained at
<http://www.hplx.net/faq.faq.html>www.hplx.net/faq.faq.html   .

1.   Switch the unit off
     -    before inserting or removing PCMCIA cards
     -    before turning on or off the AC power supply
     -    whenever it is not being actually used(do I need to then sacrifice
the
          excellent HPALARM program that I run all the time?)

2.   Close all application before returning to DOS to run DOS programs,
     specially new ones.  It would appear that some of these programs could be
     corrupting data file contents in-situ.  However, I'm not sure if this
     completely prevents file corruption.

3.   Close applications as soon as you have finished with them.  This is
     tedious, and time consuming if we have to open it again.  Does it really
     provide the protection needed?

4.   Keep data files on PCMCIA drives.  This is extremely slow.

5. Make sure that the batteries always maintain good charge.

Based on feedback from experienced users, we may be able to develop 'Best
Practices' or "Recommended Practices' for this and include them in FAQ.



Similarly, can we also work on best practices for data back-ups?  With several
units having 32MB-64MB RAM, the vast magnitude of data stored would necessitate

that proper back-ups are taken.  It is easy to run a script to copy *.?db files

to a safe location as frequently as one desires.  The real problems are:

-    How does one proactively detect that there is a data corruption lurking
     somewhere?

-    Having discovered a problem, how does one recover from it?  It may be the
     case that the last good back-up of a file is 5 days old, and one does not
     recollect readily the updates made since then.

If you can tell me what back-ups procedures you use, I can edit the responses
and
prepare something useful for possible inclusion in the FAQ.

Thank you for your attention (this message is even bigger than some of the
program files attached previously on this list) and thanks for all your help.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 12:57:12 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Fluff: Americanisms?

>> Hey Mack, if you are reading this do you think you can handle the
hardware
>> part of this project? You and I could use it the next time we bust a
>> 'crackhead' at the 'Hellhole' <g>.
>I'm already working on it. I just can't figure out now where to put the gun
>powder. :-)


And then we have the very interesting usage of words and their meanings...
Why bother with PGP when one can encrypt messages as above! :-) Certainly
keeps the foreign bad guys out of the loop.

So, in the spirit of my asking what a 'pavilion' was ( a HP desktop), what
on earth is a crackhead? :-)

Could it be a drug addict that our law enforcing list member is referring
to, or is it a specially composed shot of liquor where Mack is uncertain of
the results if one puts the gun powder in the bottom of the glass (ala on
the rocks), sprinkles it on the top ( ala Irish coffee) or on the base of
their thumb (ala salt and tequila) at their local pub, the 'Hellhole'?

Now, if this ain't fluff, then nothing is!

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 08:24:35 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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From:         Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Icon Server Online
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <19990512182923.K19164@palmtop.net>
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At 06:29 PM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Paulo Custodio and I have been putting our heads together on this icon
server I mentioned a week or so ago and have a beta for you to try out:
>
>http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons
>
Excellent Guys!
Owen

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 00:28:14 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff - Palm Pointer

Forget a taser.  I want some sort of HERF device that can scramble the
brains of an "enemies" computer.

"WinCE units ahead!  Set 200 on 'kill'."

Like to see a 3Com Palm geek try to IR swap business cards with me then!

Larry Zimmerman


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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Anand

Shortly after getting my 32M upgrade I experienced intermittent corruptio=
n
of files on the C: drive. I used a program FCHECK.ZIP by Andreas Garzotto=

that computes a checksum of all the files on the C: drive. The next time
you experience problems you run the program again and it will tell you
which files have been changed and possibly corrupted.  It won't cure the
problem of corrupted files but it may help track down which program is
causing the problem. In my case it was an old DOS program (can't remember=

which one of the thousands I've had on the Palmtop). Once I got rid of th=
e
program, and reloaded the corrupted files everything worked OK.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 07:34:16 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups
Comments: To: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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>It is easy to run a script to copy *.?db files
>to a safe location as frequently as one desires.  The real problems are:
> How does one proactively detect that there is a data corruption lurking
>   somewhere?

You can't.  This has always been one of my pet peeves and perhaps my greatest
incentive to program something for the LX.  It desperately needs a simple
program that will check the integrity of a given database.  GUI and fixing the
problems would be nice touches, but detection is the immediate need.

A change in jobs recently hasn't given me anymore time to tinker..oh well, 20
years to retirement and then we'll see <g>.

This is a program that even I (gasp) would pay for (don't ask me how much).

> Having discovered a problem, how does one recover from it?  It may be the
>   case that the last good back-up of a file is 5 days old, and one does not
>   recollect readily the updates made since then.

Everyone has their own solution for this. usually using incremental backups,
with some people tracking data back for years.  To me this is rock solid, but a
bit more work and resources than I'd like to commit when a simple nightly
detection or scan of the databases might just tell me (or my backup program)
that something's amiss.

Improving Garlic or any other data recovery program that tries to salvage a
corrupted database can only do so much when the data is trash.. GIGO remember?

Better to fix the problem farther upstream...methinks.

Maybe the reason this hasn't made it to the FAQ is because no one yet has a
simple FAQ-able solution.  No one wants to load the FAQ with dire warnings
otherwise, and include 15 different suggestions.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 07:39:20 -0700
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>>
So, in the spirit of my asking what a 'pavilion' was ( a HP desktop), what
on earth is a crackhead? :-)

Could it be a drug addict that our law enforcing list member is referring
to,
<<

Yes

>>
or is it a specially composed shot of liquor where Mack is uncertain of
the results if one puts the gun powder in the bottom of the glass (ala on
the rocks), sprinkles it on the top ( ala Irish coffee) or on the base of
their thumb (ala salt and tequila) at their local pub, the 'Hellhole'?
<<

You've discovered the rumored upgrade that Avi's been alluding to <g>.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 09:29:45 -0500
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Just out of curiosity- Is anybody aware of an Ada compiler that might
run on our machines?

Sure do enjoy this list.

Regards
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Crackhead - One who smokes crack cocaine i.e. the cheap rock version of
            cocaine

Hellhole - This one is too hard to explain, it's not a pub, but a place
           where myself and the deputies I work with frequently go to
           have driver license/safety checks. The name is derived from the
           smell of the animal carcasses that can be frequently found at
           this location. I know it sounds weird, you would have to see it
           to undestand it <grin>.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 10:51:18 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Well, first you'd have to harden the HP 200LX against such an
attack... Which *might* increase size/weight of the unit ;¬)

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Fluff - Palm Pointer


>Forget a taser.  I want some sort of HERF device that can scramble the
>brains of an "enemies" computer.
>
>"WinCE units ahead!  Set 200 on 'kill'."
>
>Like to see a 3Com Palm geek try to IR swap business cards with me then!

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> Well, first you'd have to harden the HP 200LX against such an
> attack... Which *might* increase size/weight of the unit ;¬)

That's where the kevlar fiber impregnated magnesium alloy case we've
recently developed comes in handy.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 11:38:37 -0400
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> Date:    Tue, 11 May 1999 18:00:30 +0800
> From:    Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
> Subject: Date resetting to 01-01-1980
>
> I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically
to
> 01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c:
drive. Even
> the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.
>
> Anyone else has/had this problem?
>
> I take backups regularly(daily) just to be on the safe side. However,
each
> such corruption takes a long time to recover from. In addition, I
haven't
> figured out a way to find out what data was lost between the last
backup
> and the current time. One method I use for the address book is to
VIEW the
> file in Filer (using F8) and look at the last entry at the end of the
file,
> to see up to where my address book is current. However, I suspect
that this
> is not a very foolproof method. Any suggestions? If I know what is
missing,
> I can probably try to find the information again and re-enter.
>
> As usual, what you don't know that you do not know is the biggest
problem!
>
> Many thanks for your help!
>
> Anand Rao.
>

Haven't seen anyone specifically mention this yet, but at risk of
stating the obvious - is the backup battery (CR2032) still good?

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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I asked before and got varying answers so I'll quiz the group again. Will
v6.0 of PGP generate a RSA style PGP public key? A friend of mine just tried
v5.0 and it says for the free version for personal use that it will not make
a RSA key. Is there anyone on the list using v6.x that can let me know if it
will make a RSA key?

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 00:04:31 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi everyone,

I have been using my HP-Flashcard for about five years now.
There came a utility called "wear" with the card. In the manual
it is said, that one should call the wear program from time to
time to improve the lifetime of the card.

Whenever I called the wear-program in the five years it always
stated "card does not need wear leveling". Did ever someone's
card need wear leveling (whatever it is)? Or do I use the
utility in a wrong way? I call it with "wear a:".

Did ever someone experience memory problems with older
flashcards?

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 00:04:22 +0800
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Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Thanks, Ed. First entry to the FAQ. I will check it out tomorrow.

Anand.


At 09:19 PM 13-05-99 Thursday , you wrote:
>Anand
>
>Shortly after getting my 32M upgrade I experienced intermittent corruption
>of files on the C: drive. I used a program FCHECK.ZIP by Andreas Garzotto
>that computes a checksum of all the files on the C: drive. The next time
>you experience problems you run the program again and it will tell you
>which files have been changed and possibly corrupted.  It won't cure the
>problem of corrupted files but it may help track down which program is
>causing the problem. In my case it was an old DOS program (can't remember
>which one of the thousands I've had on the Palmtop). Once I got rid of the
>program, and reloaded the corrupted files everything worked OK.
>
>.ed.
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 00:10:57 +0800
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Comments: To: Longden_Loo@candle.com
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Longden, you hit the nail on the head as regards what the real problem is.

I agree that I would even pay for this program considering its utility.
While no one is likely  to get wealthy on these payments from you, me and
others and therefore this may not be sufficient monetary motivation to a
developer, I could alternatively donate the amount to the developer's
favourite charity. Anything to stimulate interest.

Anand.

At 10:34 PM 13-05-99 Thursday , Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:
>
>You can't.  This has always been one of my pet peeves and perhaps my greatest
>incentive to program something for the LX.  It desperately needs a simple
>program that will check the integrity of a given database.  GUI and fixing the
>problems would be nice touches, but detection is the immediate need.
>
........ snip ........
>
>This is a program that even I (gasp) would pay for (don't ask me how much).
>

>- Longden
>

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 00:14:49 +0800
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Jon, Good point. However, the backup battery is in pristine condition. Even
while removing all batteries to completely reset the unit, the backup
battery goes out first before the alkalines and comes in last. Therefore, I
believe I am not drawing power from them.

Anand.

At 11:38 PM 13-05-99 Thursday , Jon Barrett wrote:
>> Date:    Tue, 11 May 1999 18:00:30 +0800
>> From:    Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
>> Subject: Date resetting to 01-01-1980
>>
>> I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically
>to
>> 01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c:
>drive. Even
>> the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.
>>
>> Anyone else has/had this problem?
>>
>> I take backups regularly(daily) just to be on the safe side. However,
>each
>> such corruption takes a long time to recover from. In addition, I
>haven't
>> figured out a way to find out what data was lost between the last
>backup
>> and the current time. One method I use for the address book is to
>VIEW the
>> file in Filer (using F8) and look at the last entry at the end of the
>file,
>> to see up to where my address book is current. However, I suspect
>that this
>> is not a very foolproof method. Any suggestions? If I know what is
>missing,
>> I can probably try to find the information again and re-enter.
>>
>> As usual, what you don't know that you do not know is the biggest
>problem!
>>
>> Many thanks for your help!
>>
>> Anand Rao.
>>
>
>Haven't seen anyone specifically mention this yet, but at risk of
>stating the obvious - is the backup battery (CR2032) still good?
>
>Jon
>
>Jon Barrett
>Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net
>
>Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
> (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)
>
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> My filer.ini is empty. What is the name of the section etc.? Has it to =
be like in Windows ini-files (for example Ýload¨ ?)
>
It's a text file, one you can edit with the built-in Memo, if you like. Here's
mine:

------cut here-----
ÝLauncher¨
TXT=A:\UTIL\TED.COM %
DOC=A:\UTIL\TED.COM %
HTM=A:\HV\HV.EXE %
ICN=D:\BIN\ICN200LX.EXE %
PCX=A:\LXPIC\LXPIC.COM %
GIF=A:\LXPIC\LXPIC.COM %
JPG=A:\LXPIC\LXPIC.COM %
BMP=A:\LXPIC\LXPIC.COM %
ZIP=A:\PKWARE\PXUNZIP.EXE % C:\TEMP
LZH=A:\LHA\LHA.COM E %
------cut here-----

(Of course, yours will differ depending on what paths\programs and optional
switches you wish to use.)

Note that Filer automatically replaces the % with the name of the file you had
selected to be opened.

Hope this helps,
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I thought the new case was for *advising* your customers of their Miranda
rights.

  Officer Jeff:  "Hold 'em down on the pavement there, Citizen Mack."
  Citizen Mack:  "Right Oh."
  Client:        "Oomph!"
  Officer Jeff:  "Let's see that's shift-F9.  'You have the right to remain
silent.  You have the right to consult your mere WinCE desktop computer
companion.' ..."


>That's where the kevlar fiber impregnated magnesium alloy case we've
>recently developed comes in handy.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 13:03:42 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  I want one!!  :¬)
  What's the cost for the case upgrade??  :¬)
        ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mack Baggette Ýmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:32 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Fluff - Palm Pointer
>
> > Well, first you'd have to harden the HP 200LX against such an
> > attack... Which *might* increase size/weight of the unit ;¬)
>
> That's where the kevlar fiber impregnated magnesium alloy case we've
> recently developed comes in handy.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 11:42:36 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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I know that version 6.0.2 US will make RSA keys with the RSA add-on.
There are actually two versions (shipped together for us), 6.0.2DH and
6.0.2RSA; one makes only DH keys and the other will make DH and RSA.

I *think* the international version of 6.0.2 (www.pgpi.com) makes RSA
keys but I won't commit to that.

There is a web page that goes through each version since 2.6.2 and tells
their compatibility issues.  I can't recall the page URL but if you go to
http://pgp.rivertown.net and scroll toward the bottom of the links, there
is a link to the comparison page.

Larry Zimmerman

On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:54:05 -0500 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
>I asked before and got varying answers so I'll quiz the group again.
>Will
>v6.0 of PGP generate a RSA style PGP public key? A friend of mine just
>tried
>v5.0 and it says for the free version for personal use that it will
>not make
>a RSA key. Is there anyone on the list using v6.x that can let me know
>if it
>will make a RSA key?
>
>Jeff

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Hello all,

     These are short programs that implement a "state machine".
A pixel's state in the next cycle depends on the states of the
four neighboring pixels in this cycle.  These programs are meant
to be run in video mode 6.

     PSEUDO2 and PSEUDO4 are stand alone programs.  PSEUDO2 starts
with vertical lines to make "carpet patterns".  PSEUDO4 starts with
the center two pixels on to make "diamonds".  PSEUDO3 needs an external
setup to provide mode 6 and something on the screen.  It can actually
use mode 4 or 5, but things are a little different there.

     Stefan Peichl's Caarpet Designer was the start of this silly-
ness.  I thought I could take an old program I wrote for my Z-100
and translate it to use CGA graphics and be small enough to squeek
by the no binaries limit.  Say about 250 - 300 bytes.  Well after
the usual dull thuds, I brute forced a working program.  Oops, too
big now.

     I can e-mail a copy of these if someone out there wants to
watch a 200LX blink a lot.

     Steve

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On Thu, 13 May 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I asked before and got varying answers so I'll quiz the group again.
> Will v6.0 of PGP generate a RSA style PGP public key? A friend of mine
> just tried v5.0 and it says for the free version for personal use that
> it will not make a RSA key. Is there anyone on the list using v6.x
> that can let me know if it will make a RSA key?

6.0.2, the International Version for Windows, has no problem making an RSA
key.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 13:46:42 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: filer.ini

Hi All,

Remember when I tried fixing my database handling Ý.GDB, etc.¨ by adding the
"1" to the "%" (as suggested in an earlier post); so now they read:

pdb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %1
gdb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %1
ndb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %1

The lines used to end at the "%".

That was supposed to fix the way it was opening .GDB files, etc. It still
opens the last .GDB I was viewing *BUT,* I've noticed that it's opening it
*IN* the built in HP Database app!!! <just discovered this; that's why I'm
"shocked" 'cause the .ini file looks like it should start the dbase viewer
that comes in Super Software Carousel>.

I checked, and dbv.exe *is* in the directory the lines point toward Ýthat
would've been too easy <G>¨.

I've done some tinkering to remove some drivers here and there, rebooting
and trying again, but I don't think any of my drivers are causing trouble.

I'm running Buddy too, could there be a control happening from there, that
I'm not aware of?

--tim

PS. Some time, soon after the PTP write-up on "Choice," I downloaded all the
files and tried to follow the directions ... failed miserably.  Dunno if it
was me, a conflicting configuration, or a problem w/ part of the
instructions (or my understanding of them) but I'm pretty hesitant to try
again Ý2 days of hard work yielded nothing .... I hate when that happens ;-)
¨.

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 13:31:22 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, hobchi@JUNO.COM
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Fluff - Clock pgmng

I have seen a lot of LX et al screen clocks.
Very very nice. Can some of these pgmers put
an option in them for a 24 hr read out instead
of just am/pm.

Advantages are that they only take up four
character spaces instead of 6-7.
They are better for people that travel to know
if its am or pm without turning on the light to
see the am/pm.

semper mobilis,
yor pal al.......................

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 13:22:14 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Fluff - Case hardening

>> Well, first you'd have to harden the
LX against such an attack... Which *might*
increase size/weight of the unit ;¬)
>That's where the kevlar fiber impregnated
magnesium alloy case we've
>recently developed comes in handy.
>
I think this has already been done by a vendor
to the U.S. Marine Corps. Seems the company
sold the marines some units for field use and
modified the case to look something like ammo
cases with a Marine olive green color.

Lost the url with my old hd.

yor pal al........................

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 13:50:30 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Backups

Y'all

>> I take backups regularly (daily) just
to be on the safe side.

If yu do multiple backups often.
Be careful with them backups.
Sometimes less is best.
You can clobber good backups with
corrupted stuff.  Then all you got is
uh, corrupted backups.

One way to test for db corruption is to go
into it and just down arrow to the end. If
a record is bad, the cursor should stop at
the bad record and beep with error msg saying
unable to read record.

>>I agree that I would even pay for this
program considering its utility.

A macro can be made to do this and the first
one to do so should up it to Hamm and do us a favor.

yor pal al........................


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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 19:32:12 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Joe,

did you load the doublespeed driver?

GTX
daniel

>      I needed to print a memo from my hp200lx and remembered that some
>      people have printed to HPLJ6p's from their palmtops! After searching
>      the archives I checked SUPER and found "IrDA097.zip". After I loaded
>      this (per the README.TXT file) I tried it on a LJ69p. I found that at
>      9600 baud it locked up after the led on the printer lit when I pressed
>      OK from the print window under Memo. At 115000 baud it started
>      scrolling garbage in the Upper left corner of the screen. A 3 finger
>      salute was req.. I am using a 6MB DS 200lx with a 48mb CF card. Any
>      help appreciated!!!

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 12:39:33 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 13 May 1999 13:46:42 -0500, "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@=
HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL> wrote:


> I'm running Buddy too, could there be a control happening from there, =
that
> I'm not aware of?

Yeap! To test this just REM Buddy out in your autoexec.bat and
re-boot, as a matter of fact you might have to re-boot several times to =
clean
your Buddy out.

> PS. Some time, soon after the PTP write-up on "Choice," I downloaded =
all the
> files and tried to follow the directions ... failed miserably.  Dunno =
if it
> was me, a conflicting configuration, or a problem w/ part of the
> instructions (or my understanding of them) but I'm pretty hesitant to =
try
> again Ý2 days of hard work yielded nothing .... I hate when that =
happens ;-)
> ¨.

Choice is a great program and is worth another shot. (:-)
One thing was for sure I had to give Buddy up for my system to run/work
properly.

Hopeful somebody else might have had better luck at getting Buddy and
Filer.ini or Choice to co-exist. If so please state your configuration,
and Tips n Tricks.



Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 15:47:46 -0400
Reply-To:     Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@dc.seflin.org>
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From:         Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG>
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I have found a hard shell case that fits the HP perfectly and has an
extra 1.25" to spare either on the left or right side. Its interior is
covered with 3/16" cushioning.

It is called: OTTER BOX model "L"

Outside dimensions: 8" X 4.5" X 2"

WATERPROOF to 100 feet

Colors: Black, White, Green, Tan and Yellow

I found it in a marine supply store.

Factory Address:

Otter Products
316 S. Link Lane
Fort Collins, CO 80524

Phone: 970-493-8446

HTH,
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 05:49:22 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>1.   Data files get corrupted spontaneously and refuse to load under the
>     applications concerned.

Hi Anand & list.

Have you considered virus?

I run thunderbyte for dos on my palmtop. Works great.

Just like a "big PC" our LX could catch colds.  :))

If the LX goes great say for a while and then you run a certain prog virus
infected it "could" cause the symptoms you have.

Good luck

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 15:00:30 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Looks like they're available online.
        http://www.otterbox.com

  Their 800 numbers are:
        (888)695-8820 voice
        (888)695-8827 fax

  Cliff, would you take a look at:
        http://www.otterbox.com/sizes.html
  .. and let us know which size you're using?
  (There's no size referred-to as "L".)

     ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Crittenden Ýmailto:d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG¨
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 2:48 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Fluff - Case hardening
>
>
> I have found a hard shell case that fits the HP perfectly and has an
> extra 1.25" to spare either on the left or right side. Its interior is
> covered with 3/16" cushioning.
>
> It is called: OTTER BOX model "L"
>
> Outside dimensions: 8" X 4.5" X 2"
>
> WATERPROOF to 100 feet
>
> Colors: Black, White, Green, Tan and Yellow
>
> I found it in a marine supply store.
>
> Factory Address:
>
> Otter Products
> 316 S. Link Lane
> Fort Collins, CO 80524
>
> Phone: 970-493-8446
>
> HTH,
> Cliff Crittenden
>
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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 16:09:25 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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In-Reply-To:  <92C6CDA989B8D2118D59006008BD51AF18A6ED@rc.addcoinc.com>; from
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Looks like the "3000 Series" matches up with Cliff's dimensions:

8 3/8" x 4 3/8" x 1 7/8"
--
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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 15:52:43 -0500
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Good Luck!
While I have heard about how easy it is, I've never been able to get the
palmtop to connect to the network.

Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> I've heard that I can use either the 2216-1 or 2216-2 on
> my hp200lx;  is it true that the version with the bnc
> connector is too much power consuming?
> Can you help me in the choice, dear palmtoppers?
> I'd like to point out the fact that the db.hplx.net site
> isn't working properly, and I can't access the ethernet cards
> section.
> Thank u very much
>
>                 Raffaele
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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 14:17:42 -0700
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Damaged LX and Corporal punishment "fluff"

I hope my voice won't be alone, but I just want to make sure that the member
advocating corporal punishment or toy breaking as a suitable punishment for
breaking Dad's LX gets a response. I'd be angry, too - but if we're looking
for effective correction and not just momentary release of our own rage,
corporal punishment and sadistic eye-for-an-eye retaliations are not the way
to go. Timeouts, losses of privileges, and chats about saying feelings in
words rather than in violent actions are more likely to result in less
damaged equipment in the future than trashing his GameBoy.

I was gonna respond to Steve privately on this one, but the spanking fan
made me think I'd better go public.

Yours in preachiness,

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 17:20:17 -0400
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              Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG>
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Yes, the correct model is "3000". They have also added some new colors.

I added some velcro on the bottom of the HP to secure it to the inside of
the Otter Box.

This is the best product I have seen to date to protect the HP.

HTH,
Cliff Crittenden

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 16:36:34 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-13 04:17pm CDT, the following was written:

> I hope my voice won't be alone, but I just want to make sure that the member
> advocating corporal punishment or toy breaking as a suitable punishment for

Hmmm.... this must have been directed at me since I made those comments <g>.
As an officer of the law, and as a parent, I am a firm believer in corporal
punishment. It seemed to work many years ago when it was used in schools,
it's not used now and look at the mess we've got. I actually answered a call
the other day where a 16 year old kid wanted to file charges against his
parents for a spanking. It was quite humorous when I showed the parent the
State code that gives the the right and responsiblity to use corporal
punishment and the kid shut up real quick after that <g>.

I now return everyone to some LX related subjects.... but the one about the
crackhead was related 'cause Mack was wirelessly surfung the web with his LX
in the patrol car when the event happened :)

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:00 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Maybe it's just my memory playing tricks, but wasn't there an
effort in Asia to develop a true LX successor? Last time I
heard, I think that the economic crisis had ground the
project to a halt. Does anyone know any more about what
happened to it?

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:06 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Due to the seeming lack of an enormous demand for vertical
reading capabilities in the next Post/LX, I was talking with
Daniel Hertrich (feel free to chip in, Daniel!) who had the
excellent idea of a TSR which would "enhance" VR to allow it
to better integrate with Post/LX. Specifically, we were both
interested in just a few functions - such as one keypress to
reply, or to move onto the next message - functions you
don't get by just running VR as an external program.

Unfortunately, neither of us have the programming skills to
write such a TSR - in fact, as a start, we were hoping that
someone would confirm that it is actually technically
feasible. And if it is possible... any volunteers?!

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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 20:33:22 -0230
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Date sent:              Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:52 -0700
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Subject:                Re: Wordperfect
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> On Sun, 9 May 1999 21:23:15 -0230, Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET> wrote:
>
> av> Is there a Wordperfect mailing list?  Or, are there any Wordperfect
> av> experts here?
>
> I'm no expert, but I use WP and have a set of manuals. I'd be happy to try
> and answer any questions you have.

I was trying to figure out how to search for the right codes.  Even
with help though, I have failed.  How can you search for
<RETURN> in Wordperfect 8?

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Date sent:              Sun, 09 May 1999 23:11:48 -0500
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Subject:                Re: Wordperfect

> Try the newsgroup cnews.corel.com
>

My news server does not have that group.  Is there a mailing list?

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Strange thing happened. I renamed an icon to the same name (with the .icn
extension) as one of my Notetaker database, and when I opened that database,
the icon that came up in the cardfile was the icon I had just renamed!

Did we know that?

Philippe :-)

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In a message dated 5/13/1999 06:57:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET writes:

> I was trying to figure out how to search for the right codes.  Even
>  with help though, I have failed.  How can you search for
>  <RETURN> in Wordperfect 8?

From the main menu bar, select File.
From the drop down menu, select Find & Replace.
From the Find & Replace menu, select Match.
From the drop down menu, select Codes.

Scroll through the list, and pick out whatever control code you wish.  ÝHRt¨
is in there someplace, and it represents a hard return.

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In a message dated 5/13/1999 02:57:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hobchi@JUNO.COM writes:

> Can some of these pgmers put
>  an option in them for a 24 hr read out instead
>  of just am/pm.
Try HPALARM.  It had a military time option.

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> Hmmm.... this must have been directed at me since I made those comments =
<g>.
> As an officer of the law, and as a parent, I am a firm believer in =
corporal
> punishment. It seemed to work many years ago when it was used in =
schools,
> it's not used now and look at the mess we've got. I actually answered a =
call
> the other day where a 16 year old kid wanted to file charges against =
his
> parents for a spanking. It was quite humorous when I showed the parent =
the
> State code that gives the the right and responsiblity to use corporal
> punishment and the kid shut up real quick after that <g>.

Jeff, I hate to disagree with you, but don't you think that
the stopping of corporal punishment might not be the real
reason for the "mess"? I know a very large number of people
who haven't been subjected to corporal punishment and have
turned out fine. It's very easy to say that corporal
punishment is the answer to the world's problems, but then
the death penalty was supposed to be the ultimate answer to
crime. Perhaps if people paid more attention to the causes of
kids' wrongdoings, rather than the punishments...

> I now return everyone to some LX related subjects.... but the one about =
the
> crackhead was related 'cause Mack was wirelessly surfung the web with =
his LX
> in the patrol car when the event happened :)

Oh yes... LX-related! I have to say that wireless web-surfing
on an LX is definitely the coolest way to surf, whether
you're in a patrol car or not! Now all we need is the
next-generation, faster GSM service...

 -Mike

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Are we still on this one <g> ?

Another thought... I checked my c:\_dat directory and found a dbv.cfg file that
has several entries including:

     Ýpaths¨
     ; set your database directory
     dbdir=a:\_dat

and a:\_dat is where I have my GDB files (and dbv works ok for me).

Any chance your dbv.cfg file is out of synch?  I imagine my file came with the
.exe, since it has a bunch of other parameters also.

- Longden





"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL> on 05/13/99 11:46:42
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Hi All,

Remember when I tried fixing my database handling Ý.GDB, etc.¨ by adding the
"1" to the "%" (as suggested in an earlier post); so now they read:

pdb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %1
gdb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %1
ndb=c:\sc-apps\dbv.exe %1

The lines used to end at the "%".

That was supposed to fix the way it was opening .GDB files, etc. It still
opens the last .GDB I was viewing *BUT,* I've noticed that it's opening it
*IN* the built in HP Database app!!! <just discovered this; that's why I'm
"shocked" 'cause the .ini file looks like it should start the dbase viewer
that comes in Super Software Carousel>.

I checked, and dbv.exe *is* in the directory the lines point toward Ýthat
would've been too easy <G>¨.

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Yeah, I vaguely remember seeing it mentioned.

I think it was on the tips and tricks Notetaker file that comes up when you
first use your LX (which everyone eventually deletes).

- Longden





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Subject:  Icon in Notes field




Strange thing happened. I renamed an icon to the same name (with the .icn
extension) as one of my Notetaker database, and when I opened that database,
the icon that came up in the cardfile was the icon I had just renamed!

Did we know that?

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Subject:      y2k and quicken dos

Tried to put dates for year 2000 and seem's to be fine until you get to
report's for capital gains. seem'd like it will not take the year 00 any
suggestion's?
thanks
scott

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Is there a FAQ on how to search the archives for a specific topic?

I attempted to find information on what cellular phones and data modems
are most acceptable.

I remember reading many posts on this topic, but wasn't interested at
the time. Isn't that the way it works.

Is the modem for a cell phone different than any regular data pcmcia
modem?

Is the secret finding a combination for which there is a cable that fits
both devices?

TIA

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I believe you are correct in your recollection. I can only add that
I believe that it was established that there is no particular physical
problem in reading the REX, but that the sofware obstacles are so
substantial that some very smart people who looked at it decided that
the effort required wasn't worth the fairly obvious benefit that would
result.

My recollection is that those who gave up were smart enough (from my
point of view) so that I decided there were lots better things to
pursue in my rare moments of creativity...

Ed Keefe wrote:
>
> Philippe,
>
> I recall that the LX<->REX issue was discussed extensively on the HPHAND
> forum on CSi several months ago.  Even then, when the LX market was larger,
> Starfish was not interested in getting the machines to work together.  I
> also recall that someone else started to work on a synching program. Could
> it have been Mack Bagette? The thread dwindled away to nothing after a
> month or so. I still think it's worth exploring.
>
> .ed.

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Some tips:

- Search accepts all the Perl regular expressions, and selects the icons
that match the given pattern. All the searches are case insensitive.
Examples:
        \d              show all icons with a digit in the file name
        fi?l            show all that match 'fl', 'fil'
        123|fil         show all with '123' or with 'fil'

- To see just all the available icons, without the search form use this
link:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons/map

- The same, but only for 'fil' icons:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons/map?search=fil

For those who wonder, the currrent icon server code is about 700 lines
of Perl and makes heavy use of the freely-available Perl libraries (have
a look at http://www.perl.com).

If you have any questions or comments, just ask.

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Subject:      free Freeway long distance accounts

Hi All,

  Today I found more questions on this list about what Freeway is, so
I'll relate that URL here again. For those of you who have seen this
before, my apologies.

  Check out www.broadpoint.com for info on Freeway and how to get an
account. It could take as long as 2-3 months to get your account, but
when you do, you'll get 2 hours of free long distance per month.

  Combining this free long distance with use of a free Palmtop.com
account results in free email for anyone in the U.S. with a HP200LX. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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> I'm running Buddy too, could there be a control happening from there, that
> I'm not aware of?


You finally got to the heart of the matter - BUDDY will load the native
apps if you hightlight and press ENTER (Ctrl-Enter may be necessary vis
a vis Filer.ini)

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> Hopeful somebody else might have had better luck at getting Buddy and
> Filer.ini or Choice to co-exist. If so please state your configuration,
> and Tips n Tricks.


Ctrl-Enter for things in Filer.ini if Buddy is in use.

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Look in the SimTel, DOS.
In 1996 four 1meg zip files - GNU ADA.
and a 256k zip tutorial.

John Cobb wrote:

> Just out of curiosity- Is anybody aware of an Ada compiler that might
> run on our machines?
>
> Sure do enjoy this list.
>
> Regards
> John Cobb
>
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What about the Canon BJC-50? It has a built-in IR port. Does it work with
the IrDA or JetEye-Drivers from the super site?

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That won't work outside of the US, right?
-goe-


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From: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Freitag, 14. Mai 1999 04:54
Subject: free Freeway long distance accounts


>Hi All,
>
>  Today I found more questions on this list about what Freeway is, so
>I'll relate that URL here again. For those of you who have seen this
>before, my apologies.
>
>  Check out www.broadpoint.com for info on Freeway and how to get an
>account. It could take as long as 2-3 months to get your account, but
>when you do, you'll get 2 hours of free long distance per month.
>
>  Combining this free long distance with use of a free Palmtop.com
>account results in free email for anyone in the U.S. with a HP200LX. :-)
>
>  Cheers!
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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>You finally got to the heart of the matter - BUDDY will >load the native
apps if you hightlight and press ENTER
>(Ctrl-Enter may be necessary vis a vis Filer.ini)

PERFECT!!! Thanks!

That one had me bugged, bugged and bugged!!

This also explains how I could open .WK1 files by the same method, without
.WK1 being in the filer.ini.

Thanks a million!

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Man, I hate to add to an off-topic discussion, but I can't help myself. The
US is in bad shape because noone is held to any standard of personal
responsibility. I am a Cop. Have been one for over 20 years. I have an eight
year old. He has received corporal punishments, over the threats of my wife.
Only twice. None out of anger. He understood why before, during, and after. I
suspect that I may need it again, but sincerely doubt it.

There is no single cure for the woes of this word. The death penalty may not
be a deterrant. It will prevent recitivism!

Dennis

PS, You go Jeff.

aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes:

<< It's very easy to say that corporal punishment is the answer to the
world's problems, but then the death penalty was supposed to be the ultimate
answer to
 crime. >>

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Longden Loo

> You can't.  This has always been one of my pet peeves and perhaps my
greatest
> incentive to program something for the LX.  It desperately needs a simple
> program that will check the integrity of a given database.  GUI and
fixing the
> problems would be nice touches, but detection is the immediate need.
------------------------------
Ed Keefe

> I used a program FCHECK.ZIP by Andreas Garzotto=

> That computes a checksum of all the files on the C: drive.
------------------------------
  I wrote two small, simple programs if someone needs
something to do file integrity/change detection.
Both do a checksum and a CRC of the file.  CRC-DIR
works on one directory.  CRC-TREE does an entire drive.
Wrote more as an introduction to traversing directory
trees and then modified to read all the files and do
the CRC.

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Phillippe:

> Strange thing happened. I renamed an icon to the same name (with the .icn
> extension) as one of my Notetaker database, and when I opened that database,
> the icon that came up in the cardfile was the icon I had just renamed!
>
> Did we know that?

Yes, this was published in August 1994 when the 200LX came out :-)... You see
it is one of the tips in the NOTES.NDB that is firmly lodged in your D: drive
in subdirectory _DAT. To open this notebook, copy it from the D: drive to any
other _writeable_ drive and open it with Notebook application.

Look for an items called Icon Madness and Icon Madness II.

Enjoy.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Subject:      Re: Post/LX - VR TSR
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Mike,

Re "VR" TSR:

> Unfortunately, neither of us have the programming skills to
> write such a TSR - in fact, as a start, we were hoping that
> someone would confirm that it is actually technically
> feasible. And if it is possible... any volunteers?!

Since VR is not a TSR, I assume you are looking to write a different one which
would behave like a TSR. Technically I believe it is feasible. It would just
load either before WWW.EXE or on the first invocation from post.exe. I think
that the idea is technically possible.

Consider the wisdom of having a TSR sitting all the time in memory while
WWW/LX Plus is running. The latter requires as much room as you can give it.
If you use the TSR heavily, it may pay off, otherwise it may just be another
memory restriction. Maybe there is a way for the TSR to somehow remove itself,
then it may become functional.

One thing I am not excited about is having to shift the palmtop in my hand
from horizontal to vertical position constantly - I think this will also make
the idea somewhat less tasty :-)...

Gilles Kohl from Germany wrote VR. He may be able to provide some more
technical insight.

Good luck,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 09:46:10 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Asian LX successor
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Mike,

> Maybe it's just my memory playing tricks, but wasn't there an
> effort in Asia to develop a true LX successor? Last time I
> heard, I think that the economic crisis had ground the
> project to a halt. Does anyone know any more about what
> happened to it?

I posted about several times. The last time I posted that the group that
worked on this project has basically disbanded for now due to the crisis in
their home countries and in their businesses. I am sad to say this has not
changed.

We were looking at putting together a sequel machine, much along the line of
a post by Lyn Cavendish a long-long time ago which outlined a terrific machine
mythically called the 260LX. Lyn posted this when HP announced the HP 360LX
(Wince). the 260 stuff was simply a spoof, but the more we read it, them more
we felt that this could be a great machine to create as a sequel.

That was the inspiration. The panle of computer companies executives I
contacted seemd to think there was merit to a machine like that. Quite a bit
of work was done, but mostly we agreed to not release many details.
Unfortunately, this is at a standstill and looks like it will be like this for
some time to come. Hopefully there will be enough left in this market to
justify doing something when the crisis is over in the Asian economies.

Well, sorry to not bear better news.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 13:10:24 -0400
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Hi,

      To those that are experiencing data file
corruption, a question.  Are you running SHARE?
It prevents multiple programs from opening the
same file (unless premitted).  I do not believe
that this is the default configuration.  This
could solve the problem if an errant program
is the problem.

Steve

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 12:10:00 +0200
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Subject:      Re: IR printing from Dos
Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>

Stephan Goeldi writes:
> What about the Canon BJC-50? It has a built-in IR port. Does it work with
> the IrDA or JetEye-Drivers from the super site?

I don't know for sure, I believe I have heard people have had problems but
I don't know if the ir was set up right.

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 11:12:27 -0700
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              Don Evans <donaldevans@PTLOMA.EDU>
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Hi,
Do you still have a 1000CX available?
Thanks.
        Don Evans.



At 10:52 AM 5/9/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Forgive an ad for equipment, but I think many users may benefit from this
>1 time sale.  I could directly sell to retailers with less headache, but
>feel that end-users might like to get in on this deal as well.
>
>I have several HP1000's available for sale.  As previously discussed,
>from a hardware point-of-view, 1000CXs are identical to 200LXs (with
>black case), but lack most of the built in programs. These are brand new,
>english versions, in the original boxes with documentation.  I think the
>warrantee cards have been removed, because the 1 meg models are a
>discontinued line. I will offer these units to sell (US sales only) to
>individuals for 1 week only at $150 each, shipping included.  Afterwards,
>I will unload them on a retailer, who will likely charge more than this.
>I would prefer multiple sales, if at all possible.  Note that the price
>is firm, shipping to US addresses only.  I will give references to
>serious buyers.
>
>Please submit requests by the 14th.  To minimize disruption to this list,
>respond off list, privately to lmrrand@juno.com.
>
>L. Rand
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 11:20:06 -0700
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              Don Evans <donaldevans@PTLOMA.EDU>
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Hi David,
I have an extra HP95LX-1Mb and an extra HP200LX- 2Mb. Do you
still have a need for one or both? Let me know.
        Don Evans.



At 07:21 PM 5/8/99 PDT, you wrote:
>Thanks for reading.
>Anyone out there have a HP95LX/HP100LX or HP200LX for sale?
>The screen cracked on the existing one that I have... Can
>anyone help?
>
>Regards,
> David
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 13:55:27 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      HP 48 verses HP 200

From what I've read in the Derive users manual Derive will also
use unlimited conversion factors and carry through the values.

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 13:56:55 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: Stephan Goeldi Ýmailto:stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH¨
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 6:46 AM
>
> That won't work outside of the US, right?
> -goe-

  Not yet...  I asked them a few questions and here's the FAQ response they
sent me.  This FAQ answers most questions not answered on their web site...

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Elexia Reynolds Ýmailto:EReynolds@broadpoint.com¨
Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:59 AM
To: 'Stanley, John L.'
Subject: RE: Query regarding FreeWay service

Thank you for your email. Here is a list of answers to your question(s),
and others that FreeWay members most commonly ask. Please let us know if
you have any additional questions or comments, and thank you for your
support!

BroadPoint Member Services

1. How long does it take to receive a PIN?
BroadPoint is committed to providing the benefits of the FreeWay service to
as many people as possible, and as quickly as possible. However, as with any
successful new product or service, consumer demand may cause a delay between
the time that you submit an application, and the time that you are activated
for and able to use the service. Although we are unable to give you a
specific time that it takes for you to receive your PIN, please be assured
that we will do everything within our power to activate you as soon as
possible.

2. What are the rates/charges after I have used my "free" minutes?
With FreeWay, you never pay a bill for the free calls that you earn.
Approximately 30 seconds before the free time you have earned on FreeWay has
elapsed, you will hear a tone alerting you that the talk time is ending,
allowing you to wrap up the conversation. When the 30 seconds has expired,
your call will be ended. If you want to continue the call by using FreeWay,
simply dial the toll free number again and listen to another set of
messages. (A quick tip: Many people make sure that they listen to more than
enough messages at the beginning of their call so that they won't run short
of time). Alternatively, you can call them back on your existing phone
service. Please note that in that case, you will be billed by your phone
company at your existing rate for that second call. Since most people use
FreeWay for only a portion of their long distance calls, you will still
receive a bill from your existing long distance carrier for any calls you
make using that service. In summary, as long as you are dialing the FreeWay
toll free number, entering your PIN, and listening to messages, you will
never receive a bill for that call.

3. Is there a way that I can "save" minutes and use them for a later call?
At this time, any minutes that you earn are used in the call, even if you
end the call before you use up all of your earned minutes. In the future,
you may have the ability to save minutes for use on a later call.

4. Will I be able to use Freeway to make international calls?
At this present time Freeway can only be used within the United States.
However, soon we will extend FreeWay to include free international, wireless
(cellular and PCS) and even video-telephone calling. Stay tuned!

5. Do I have to change long distance carriers now that I have signed up for
Freeway?
No, there is no need to change long distance carriers now that you have
signed up for FreeWay. Most people use FreeWay to supplement their existing
long distance service, using it for a portion of their long distance calls.
Whenever you want to use FreeWay, simply dial the toll free number
(1-877-FREEWAY) from any phone (at home or on the road) and follow the
simple prompts.

6. Should everyone in the household have their own Personal Identification
Number?
Yes, everyone in the household must have their own PIN. The information that
you give in your profile will be used to select advertisements that reflect
your hobbies and interests. In this way, the advertisements you hear will be
very interesting and potentially valuable to you. In addition, to ensure the
continued success of FreeWay, we need to be sure that advertisers can be
sure that they are delivering messages to the proper subscribers.

7. Can I use FreeWay when traveling or do I have to use my home phone?
FreeWay is ideal for the traveler. You can use Freeway from any phone in the
United States, including pay phones. Just dial the toll free access number
(1-877-FREEWAY) and follow the simple prompts. It's that easy!!

8. Does Freeway share my personal information with other companies?
No company other than BroadPoint will gain access to your profile
information without your consent. The information will be used exclusively
to deliver messages that are as relevant and interesting as possible for
you. BroadPoint takes our relationship with our members very seriously, and
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 14:57:48 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I don't have a TI-85, but on the 48/200 issue let me say that IMO the
200 is a _lousy_ `calculator'. A _great_ machine, maybe, but if I
really have some numerical calculations I want to do I tend to either
upgrade to a machine where I can use APL or J or go to a `real'
calculator like the 48. I find it much easier to key in the numbers
and operations on a 48 keyboard than on the 200 keyboard.

In my case, needs for a calculator are relatively rare, so I tend to
carry my Libretto and my 200.

Anand Rao wrote:
>
> Just curious - why the 48GX _and_ TI-85 in addition to the 200LX? Any
> particular features in these two calculators that you normally use that is
> not found in the 200LX and the available add-in software?
>

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 15:15:32 -0400
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Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups

   >I wrote two small, simple programs if someone needs
   >something to do file integrity/change detection.
   >Both do a checksum and a CRC of the file.  CRC-DIR
   >works on one directory.  CRC-TREE does an entire drive.
   >Wrote more as an introduction to traversing directory
   >trees and then modified to read all the files and do
   >the CRC.
Message-Id: <19990514191450.HBCT9796@Ý12.72.160.130¨>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:14:50 +0000

This sounds useful as a change detection utility, but I'm not clear on how
it determines file integrity.

How do you know when the CRC/checksum difference reflects an accidental
change (ie corruption), or deliberate change...such as when you look up or
update a database?  In fact, how will this help if the application you were
using to access the database did the corrupting?

Does this approach require you to review a list (daily) of all files that
changed since the day before?  If it does then it's more work than I'd like
to do, and I'd still be holding out for a more directed utility that will
not only report a corruption, but also spell out some details (type of
corruption, record # where it was detected, first 20 bytes of the record,
etc.)....all info that a good utility should already know once it finds
something wrong with a database.

Maybe several of us should offer a bounty as for the Outlook contest <g>.

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 14:44:21 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX

Really. With Derive or another math package it works pretty well. A lot
better than the HP 20? I was using. The numbers are just as easy to key
in as a regular calculator for me anyway. Even 3D graphs are really nice
though tiny. I haven't used a more advanced
calculator than the simple one I have been using so really can't compare
it to a 48 or 85 tho but as a programmable calculator it is tops for
me<g>. Plus it is just as easy to carry around. Damn need the same size
as the old one<g>.


David Ness writes:
> I don't have a TI-85, but on the 48/200 issue let me say that IMO the
> 200 is a _lousy_ `calculator'. A _great_ machine, maybe, but if I
> really have some numerical calculations I want to do I tend to either
> upgrade to a machine where I can use APL or J or go to a `real'
> calculator like the 48. I find it much easier to key in the numbers
> and operations on a 48 keyboard than on the 200 keyboard.
>
> In my case, needs for a calculator are relatively rare, so I tend to
> carry my Libretto and my 200.
>
> Anand Rao wrote:
> >
> > Just curious - why the 48GX _and_ TI-85 in addition to the 200LX? Any
> > particular features in these two calculators that you normally use that is
> > not found in the 200LX and the available add-in software?
> >
>
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 15:43:28 -0400
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Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> wrote:

> the adaptor connection is
> getting more and more sensitive. I have to twist and turn the
> connector, and even then the connection (as reported in
> Application Manager's Setup) is pretty flakey

I had a similar problem.  It was a broken wire on the backside
of the AC power jack inside the palmtop.  I opened up the 200LX
and soldered the wire back in place.  All is fine now.


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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 15:43:30 -0400
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Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> wrote:

> Yes, QRAM can create a 64KB High RAM area. It seems that it does. But
> afterwards, if config.sys tries to highload a driver, or if it wants to use
> the HMA, it tells me 'corrupted High RAM'. Perhaps it needs an option,
> because there is not standard RAM in the LX. But unfortunately it seems,
> that it won't work

The 200LX has some non-standard stuff going on in the address
space between 640K and 1MB.  There are the special bank
switching areas for the eXecute-In-Place (XIP) ROM's and some
more bank switching stuff for the reast of the internal RAM
which is accessed as the C: drive.  There is no "real" RAM in
the address range that the QRAM program is able to grab and
use for itself.

Regular 8086 or 286 PC's with 1 MB of RAM will have some
unclaimed RAm up in that area, but not the palmtop.  If you
add it up, 640K of low DOS RAM + 1.3MB of C: drive = 2MB of
RAM, so there can't be any in that upper memory area.


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Date:         Thu, 13 May 1999 20:51:55 +0100
Reply-To:     kropveld@xs4all.nl
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From:         Daniel Kropveld <kropveld@XS4ALL.NL>
Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups

Anand Rao writes:
> 3.   Close applications as soon as you have finished with them.  This is
>      tedious, and time consuming if we have to open it again.  Does it really
>      provide the protection needed?

The few times that I was confronted with data-corruption, it was because of
this fact.

When I have a data-base open and start 123, I know my database is corrupt
the moment I get the message 'Not enough memory to run this application,
please close...'.
When I use this database I am confronted with illegal records when I step
downwards OR when I step upwards through the records.

Some of these databases I keep on my PCMCIA-card.

So I got used to close everything prior to starting 123, and to keep
very frequent (external) backups.  :)

I have a non-accelerated 1 Mb HP200lx

Daniel Kropveld

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 20:05:43 -0400
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      POST/LX question (again)

Message-Id: <19990515000541.BXND13441@Ý12.72.161.225¨>
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:05:41 +0000

Hi all.

Can someone tell me if POST/LX lets you append a binary attachment (ie Word
document or JPG) to the current note?

NetTamer 1.08pt requires they be sent separately.. an inconvenience.  The
workaround is to manually encode the file and manually append it to the
note, which some people have a hard time dealing with.

Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 00:06:19 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups
Comments: To: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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>   I wrote two small, simple programs if someone needs
> something to do file integrity/change detection.
> Both do a checksum and a CRC of the file.  CRC-DIR
> works on one directory.  CRC-TREE does an entire drive.
> Wrote more as an introduction to traversing directory
> trees and then modified to read all the files and do
> the CRC.

Could I get a copy of your CRC checkers?
Russ

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 21:59:16 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 14 May 1999 21:53:53 -0400 (EDT)

01h48m12s ago ...
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Can someone tell me if POST/LX lets you append a binary attachment (ie =
Word
> document or JPG) to the current note?

Sure.  After composing the message, you can select "Add" then
"Attachment".  You get the usual file selection screen.  Pick the file
to attach, and ÝEnter¨.  Simple (even I can do it...  8-)  )

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 16:36:31 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Hello,
    I'm trying to install Agenda on my 1000CX, but I have a
question: Do I have to really install the software via 720K
diskettes? I thought I could just unzip the files onto my CF
card, then slip it into the HP 1000CX and go? I downloaded
the files from the link on S.U.P.E.R. (actually from HP FTP
site)

    Also, there was mention of an article that described
setting-up/using Agenda, where is that located?

Thanks in advance,

Ken
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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 17:03:53 -0700
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Folks,
Does anyone know of tools that will run on the HP200LX that will allow
one to access items in the
Psion Word, Psion Database formats?

Patrick West

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> wrote:
>
> > Yes, QRAM can create a 64KB High RAM area. It seems that it does. But
> > afterwards, if config.sys tries to highload a driver, or if it wants to use
> > the HMA, it tells me 'corrupted High RAM'. Perhaps it needs an option,
> > because there is not standard RAM in the LX. But unfortunately it seems,
> > that it won't work
>
> The 200LX has some non-standard stuff going on in the address
> space between 640K and 1MB.  There are the special bank
> switching areas for the eXecute-In-Place (XIP) ROM's and some
> more bank switching stuff for the reast of the internal RAM
> which is accessed as the C: drive.  There is no "real" RAM in
> the address range that the QRAM program is able to grab and
> use for itself.
>
> Regular 8086 or 286 PC's with 1 MB of RAM will have some
> unclaimed RAm up in that area, but not the palmtop.  If you
> add it up, 640K of low DOS RAM + 1.3MB of C: drive = 2MB of
> RAM, so there can't be any in that upper memory area.
>
> Stan
Folks,

I have made a tiny start on a web page about using the HP200LX as a
Theocratic tool for Jehovah's Witnesses. It is at:

http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/monitor/813/
<a href="http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/monitor/813/index.html">

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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 03:09:44 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
Outlook's Contacts.

This version has an option to modify existing Outlook contacts with
the same name, instead of always creating new contacts. This might get
closer to a "synchronize" function. It's also much better at setting
up defaults for mapping fields between the two.

I'm also wondering how it would be logically possible to do a true
sync - does anyone know a scheme to figure out which records are the
newest changes from each database, so I can store the newest version
of each contact in both databases? By the way, Outlook has a "Last
Modified" field which tells the date/time the contact was modified
most recently.

thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 23:09:43 -0400
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If you are going to be at Dayton tomorrow and want to say howdy, I will be
monitoring 438.300 pl 88.5 (and a few others). Hope to hear you there!
--
Mitch
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Steve Novosad wrote:

>      To those that are experiencing data file
>corruption, a question.  Are you running SHARE?
>It prevents multiple programs from opening the
>same file (unless premitted).  I do not believe
>that this is the default configuration.  This
>could solve the problem if an errant program
>is the problem.

When I've written programs for the LX, I've always been very careful
to make sure they behave nicely, and don't write to memory locations
where they're not supposed to. I stay away from dynamic memory
declarations entirely.

However, I think with programs written to be run on a regular DOS PC,
those programs might have problems which might not even show up on a
"normal" (for 10 years ago) PC with only one application running at a
time.

I would bet that this is a fairly common corruption mechanism for the
LX files. The program writes over some memory locations which are
being used to hold data in the built-in apps, then those apps save
corrupted data to files.

--=20
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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 23:50:22 -0400
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Hi Goe, Scott and All,

Goe wrote:
---
That won't work outside of the US, right?
---

  You are correct. Freeway's toll free number is not accessible from
outside the U.S.

Scott wrote:
---
have you tried a modem setup on freeway it would be nice to setup a
string of comanneds to hit the astrix key for x amount of minuets.
i tried faxing with freeway but got shut down when the fax tones were
heard.
thought it would do the same for modem but don't know
i guess you are able to modem with it?
thanks
scott
---

  Ouch! I made have made that announcement too soon!

  I sure hope that the connection wouldn't be cut if one first waits for
palmtop.com to pick up the line before allowing the HP200LX's modem to
establish the modem connection. I would not suggest trying to automate
the responses to questions about the ads and when to attempt the
connection. The ads are their bread and butter. Besides, the ads are
short but do vary in length, making it rather difficult to automate with
a script, anyway.

  Did you dial the number manually and wait for the other end to pickup
the line first? I've personally used Freeway for voice calls, but due to
recent unforeseen circumstances, I haven't yet had the opportunity to
actually try using Freeway to access Palmtop.com.

  Hmmm.... that makes me wonder if the Freeway long distance service
would actually interpret answering modem tones as a busy signal and then
automatically cut the connection...

  I initially sent my formatted "request for account" email to Freeway
via a regular long distance call with my HP200LX, but I haven't yet had
the opportunity to check whether they have actually established my
CC:Mail account yet, due to a death in the family.

  My plan was to wait until after a normal call to pick up mail that
indicated that they had already established and activated my account, and
then look into how to make a manual connection with CC:Mail so I could
then connect through the Freeway long distance service for routine mail
exchanges. Due to current circumstances, I haven't yet been able to check
on the status of my new account at Palmtop.com... much less figure out
how to do a manual dial with CC:Mail.

  You've brought up a very good question, Scott.

  If you or anyone else who has a Freeway account has the chance to
actually check this out before I do, please post your findings right
away. That help would be greatly appreciated at this time.

Thanks,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hi Ken,


>     I'm trying to install Agenda on my 1000CX, but I have a
> question: Do I have to really install the software via 720K
> diskettes? I thought I could just unzip the files onto my CF
> card, then slip it into the HP 1000CX and go? I downloaded
> the files from the link on S.U.P.E.R. (actually from HP FTP
> site)

There is also a preinstalled version available on the super
site. You will Just have to unzip the files.

Setup is easy: just make sure that you do not run agenda from a
compressed flashdisk. Best run it on your c: ramdisk. At least
64k EMS will help too.

Reinhard


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On 05-14 10:09pm CDT, the following was written:

> If you are going to be at Dayton tomorrow and want to say howdy, I will be
> monitoring 438.300 pl 88.5 (and a few others). Hope to hear you there!

I wish I could be in Dayton :( Have fun Mitch and buy me something cool <g>.
I went to the BirmingHAM Fest a week or so ago and spent a few bucks, but
nothing compares to the HAMvention!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 21:36:52 -0700
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Longden,

> Can someone tell me if POST/LX lets you append a binary attachment (ie Word
> document or JPG) to the current note?

Yes! Definitely. I do it all the time. This was in the product since April 5,
1998 (note the year!)

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Longden

> Can someone tell me if POST/LX lets you append a binary attachment (ie =
Word
> document or JPG) to the current note?

POST/LX does. Just press F2, Attachment, pick it up and send it.

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 13:32:46 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi!

> I am trying to do some programming on the 200 using Turbo C V2.0 and
> the nkit software. I can compile the sample applications correctly, as
> long as I'm not using floating point stuff. As soon as I try, I get a
> cascade of errors from the linker that seem to imply that it isn't
> seeing the floating point libraries. Has anyone run into this? I think
> that i have everything installed correctly.

Do you use TCCMAKE.BAT for ordinary programs and TCCMAKEF.BAT for code
with floating point? If not, that's the problem.

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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 23:27:06 -0700
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Never mind I found them.
<a href="http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~arb/psion/">A Psion palmtop
computer page</a><br>Grab PSIOPC.ZIP which has dos utilities to convert
Psion WRD files to HTML or Ascii files. Works fine on the HLPX.


Patrick West wrote:
>
> Folks,
> Does anyone know of tools that will run on the HP200LX that will > allow
> one to access items in the
> Psion Word, Psion Database formats?

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Folks,

(sorry about my messed up prior post.)

I have made a start on a web page about using the HP200LX as a
Theocratic tool for Jehovah's Witnesses. It is at:

http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/monitor/813/
<a href="http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/monitor/813/index.html">

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Date:         Fri, 14 May 1999 15:05:36 +0100
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>Strange thing happened. I renamed an icon to the same name (with the .icn
>extension) as one of my Notetaker database, and when I opened that
database,
>the icon that came up in the cardfile was the icon I had just renamed!

>Did we know that?

I for one did not, thanks for sharing it.

Seems it also works for Phonebook and Database files.

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>>    Also, there was mention of an article that described setting-up/usi=
ng
Agenda, where is that located?

The article in question by Steve Bell, a long time user of Agenda, appear=
ed
in the Jan/Feb,1999, issue of The HP Palmtop Paper.  =


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Searching in the archives I saw several mentions of data corruption,
specially of the phone database(possibly because it is normally the largest
in size and therefore more susceptible?).

The ideal scenario would be:

(a) As soon as you modify a record and save it by pressing F10, the whole
record is also written into another file, preferably a phone file. A new
file can be started each month to keep this file small.

(b) In case of any suspected data corruption, or even otherwise, merge
records from this new file into the pristine copy of the  phone.pdb file
which is kept in a safe place.

I could not figure out of a way to transfer the selected record to another
pdb file ( I tried the copy+paste and extract functions).

The best I came up with is:
Save the record on the phone application as usual using F10, and then run
the following Macro:

{Menu}ec{Memo}{f9}c:\_dat\ph9905.doc{F10}##{Enter}{Date}
{Time}{Enter}{Menu}ep{Enter}{Enter}{F10}{phone}

This macro copies the record, opens the file ph9905.doc (my naming
convention for phone files updated in May, 1999), puts the separator"##",
puts the date and time stamps, and copies the record. This file will have
all newly added and updated records in the reverse chronological order. In
case of corruption to the phone.pdb file this file can be scanned for
possible missing/garbled information. Please ensure that the current smart
clip contains all fields otherwise all data will not be copied over.

On my single speed machine I did not find the speed to be a problem ( I
would rather do this than to suffer the root-canal treatment of data file
reconstruction).

Over to the experts for comments, suggestions ....

There was a mention earlier that Buddy can be used to re-map the F10 key to
do execute this macro automatically. In that case one does not have to
remember to run this macro separately after pressing F10.

Thanks to everyone for their help.

Anand Rao.

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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET> wrote:

> I dropped the BUFFER statement from my Config.Sys long ago
and I > don't think I've noticed and difference in my 200LX-4M
1X

Yes, buffers are a form of cache, but it is not that simple.
These buffers are used when reading the FAT and reading
directory file clusters.  In other words, by having some
buffers to cache with, DOS operates more efficiently because
it has to do less work to get stuff.  And with the 80186
processor, the less CPU cycles it takes to accomplish
something, the better.

Besides, if you don't have a BUFFERS= line, then DOS just uses
the default which is 5 or 10, I can't remember which.


Stan

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I noticed that the appointment file on my 200 has data from appointments
that have long been deleted.

I was doing a text search in Filer and was surprised to see the Appt.adb
was listed as having some of these items.  When I then did a view in
filer, I found many appointments and associated notes from 1997!
Searching for this text in the appointment application yielded no
results (as expected).

I regularly extract the last quarter's appointments and archive them on
my pc (e.g. - 4Q97.adb), so I was surprised to find this data on my
palmtop.  I have a 1MB 200, so space is at a premium.

My questions are:

1.  Why is this old data still in my appt.adb file?
2.  Is it making my appt file larger than it needs to be (answer seems
obvious)?
3.  Has anyone run into this problem and what solutions have been
proposed?

Looking forward to your responses.

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RE:     Re: Carrying the 200LX

15 May 99

I have run the orginal IBM APL for the PC on an HP200.  This requires a
floating point emulation program (available on Super).  If you can find
this program, the whole package  fits on a 360 kb diskette.  =


Another list member reported running IBM's APL2 for DOS on the HP200.

What aspect of using the HP200 as a calculator to you dislike or find
difficult.

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Hi Anand,

> I have frequent episodes of the HP200LX date resetting automatically to
> 01-01-1980, accompanied with corruption to data files on the c: drive. Even
> the executables get corrupted. The a: drive seems to be safe.
>
> Anyone else has/had this problem?

Yes: Sometimes when I do a hard reset the date resets to
01-01-80. But _not_ with every hard reset.
I don't know when and when not.

My data files never got corrupted this way.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

Stefan??
Do you want to make a "LASERON.COM" TSR? ;-)

> Has anybody tried to design a laser pointer into to HPLX?
>
> I don't have one, but noticed they run on a couple of 1.5v batteries and
> the laser mechanism might be small enough to go into the empty area on the
> lower left rear corner of the palmtop.  This area, beyond the end of the
> battery cage on the PC Card side, was used for a earphone jack mod.  That
> and a recent comment about carrying a separate laser pointer gave me the
> idea.

For what do you want to use it?

GTX
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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 14:35:09 -0400
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I run APL Plus v11 and an early version of J on my 200 without any
particular difficulty. APL Plus V11 doesn't require any additional
emulation software. APL is something like 171k.

What I don't like about the 200 as a calculator is mostly physical.
A harder to read screen (i.e. smaller numbers) , a poor keyboard (in
comparison with an HP48 keyboard) no single stroke keys for sin, cos, tan, exp, log, ... easily
labelled keys, ... (countless other things, but you get the idea, I'm sure)

In sum, the 200 is a fine computer, but (like full sized computers)
IMO not so wonderful for run-of-the-mill calculating tasks...

TGHess@compuserve.com wrote:
>
> 15 May 99
>
> I have run the orginal IBM APL for the PC on an HP200.  This requires a
> floating point emulation program (available on Super).  If you can find
> this program, the whole package  fits on a 360 kb diskette.
>
> Another list member reported running IBM's APL2 for DOS on the HP200.
>
> What aspect of using the HP200 as a calculator to you dislike or find
> difficult.
>
> Thomas G. Hess

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Does anybody know how large the red laser diodes are, and where you might
obtain them?  This sounds like an interesting "gee whiz" project.

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> What about the Canon BJC-50? It has a built-in IR port. Does it work =
with
> the IrDA or JetEye-Drivers from the super site?

Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work with either.

 -Mike

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David Sargeant writes:
> Does anybody know how large the red laser diodes are, and where you might
> obtain them?  This sounds like an interesting "gee whiz" project.

Digi-Key sells them. They are quite large at least 10 mm long

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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 15:40:43 -0700
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I'm new to palmtop computing and this list, having just recently purchased
an HP 200lx.  I got it mostly to check email when I travel, but I also
wanted to use it to easily carry a backup of my smaller electronic
organizer data with me.  The organizer is a Sharp YO-350, and the companion
backup software marketed by Sharp is called Organizer Link 390 (OL390), a
program which works nicely in dos on my W95 machine.

I have  transferred the OL390 files into the '200, and I can  run the
program on the palmtop, however I cannot get the organizer and the palmtop
to talk to each other.  I have gone into the 200's Setup/Communications
screen, and enabled com1 Port in dos, set the IO Address to  03F8, and the
interrupt to 4, which I understand are more or less standard settings for
com1 (I'm not exactly a computer whiz, but I CAN follow directions if
they're reasonably clear)!

The OL390 software goes through the install process, and I have let it
automatically select the correct port to use on the 200, however when I go
to transfer data, I keep getting an I/O error.  I have also tried selecting
different ports manually in the OL390 setup but with no success. OL390
cannot communicate with the organizer.

I have run the OL390 software under dos in my W95 desktop machine, and it
installs & transfers data fine.

The only consistent response I receive when I try to transfer data with the
200 is a beep and the screen  msg:  "Communications Failure".   The
connection between the '200 and the organizer is made with the F1015A cable
and the level converter box that must be used to mate with the organizer's
connnector.  I used the same F1015A cable to transfer the files to the 200,
and I've checked the continuity of all lines with an ohmmeter, so feel
reasonably confident it is in good condition.  The level converter works
fine when connected to the desktop computer.

It appears I'm missing something, but I'm at a loss as to what it is; if
any of you more experienced 200 users out there have any suggestions/ideas,
I'd really appreciate hearing from you.  I've had the 200 about a week, and
this experience is driving me nuts!

TIA,

Al Creswell
Salem Oregon
al.creswell@worldnet.att.net
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Date:         Sat, 15 May 1999 16:20:48 -0700
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i couldn't get it to print with the bjc-80.  manual states windows only

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>
> > What about the Canon BJC-50? It has a built-in IR port. Does it work
> with
> > the IrDA or JetEye-Drivers from the super site?
>
> Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work with either.
>
>  -Mike
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> >>
> or is it a specially composed shot of liquor where Mack is uncertain of
> the results if one puts the gun powder in the bottom of the glass (ala on
> the rocks), sprinkles it on the top ( ala Irish coffee) or on the base of
> their thumb (ala salt and tequila) at their local pub, the 'Hellhole'?
> <<
>
> You've discovered the rumored upgrade that Avi's been alluding to <g>.

Hehehe.... I was not alluding to anything. I was just expressing my interest
in the "next goodie". Could it be coming from Jeff? A law enforcement palmtop?
Ah, I got it:

    A ROBOTOP!!!

A ruggedized version of the HP 200LX, with tazers, lasers, and stungun
add-ons. It remebers, it catalogues information, it has night vision, it is
programmable to stun. It is the answer to the BORG!!!

Good going Jeff! :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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> Salem Oregon

Howdy, neighbor (Seattle)

Might you need another null modem adapter if you are linking two devices
whose cables normally talk to a computer?  Each wants to talk with a
normal serial port connection but instead each may be talking to the
'wrong' connections on the other???

Also, make sure that in setup on the hp, you have SERIAL port ON in dos
- it is one of the settings somewhere in there.  Sometimes the serial
port can interfere but ususually it will connect but possibly break the
connection.

Good luck

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Stan,

>>Besides, if you don't have a BUFFERS=3D line, then DOS just uses
the default which is 5 or 10, I can't remember which.

Didn't someone, long ago and far away in another forum, research this
pretty thoroughly and come to the conclusion that the optimum buffer coun=
t
is buffers=3D6.  At least that is what my buffer statement has been for t=
he
last part of this millenium.

.ed.

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David Ness wrote:
>>I run APL Plus v11 and an early version of J on my 200 without any
particular difficulty.

David, is APL Plus v11 commercial or shareware?  I've played with the old=

IAPL interpreter and found it difficult to get the hang of the keystrokes=
.
I also have a copy of J somewhere in the software archive. I think it's o=
ne
of the earlier releases. =


In defense of HP Calc, I think it's important to realize that it is a lar=
ge
screen version of the HP 19B II Business calculator. It was never meant t=
o
compete with the HP 48 (what could?). There are some nice touches such as=

tieing HP Calc and Solver to the built-in 1-2-3 spreadsheet. But, you're
right, the HP Palmtop was not meant to be a calculator alone.

.ed.

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"Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES> wrote:

> I often use the Com1 in order to send data file to a PC. I always
> use the AC adaptor too. But, when you  take out the alkaline
> batteries, the Hp .......  HANG UP !!! Only with ctrl+Shift+ON i can
> recover the palmtop.
> Should not the batteries and the AC adaptor be
> independent ?

The palmtop is always looking at the main AA and backup button
batteries to make sure they are working properly.  It even
does this while the AC adapter is connected.  So, you should
not pull out ANY batteries while the machine is running!  Turn
it off first.


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Then why does the "D" drive have a default value of BUFFERS=20?

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>Stan,
>
>>>Besides, if you don't have a BUFFERS= line, then DOS just uses
>the default which is 5 or 10, I can't remember which.
>
>Didn't someone, long ago and far away in another forum, research this
>pretty thoroughly and come to the conclusion that the optimum buffer count
>is buffers=6.  At least that is what my buffer statement has been for the
>last part of this millenium.
>
>.ed.
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Al Criswell,

You'll need a null modem adaptor (and maybe a gender changer, but I'm not=

sure of that) since the cable you're using is already set up as a null
modem cable.

The Communication setup is in the setup program (CTRL+F1) and then F6. My=

com port1 is set to 2f8 with interrupt 2 and it lets me connect to my
desktop. I also have checked Enable Com1 port in DOS.

Of course, all this may become moot once you start using the PIMs in the
200LX. Will you need to carry along another organizer no matter how small=

it is. =


For email, you might be able to get by with the built in software but
others use a combination of POSTLX, WWW/LX and acCIS (for CSi).  Hop over=

to www.palmtoppaper.com for more ideas about what's in strore.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Subject:      Fluff  Excel flight simulator

Kind of off topic but I was wondering if anyone has messed with the
flight simulator in Excel?


anandd@juno.com writes:
> These are the instructions I got for getting to the Excel 97 flight
> simulator-I don't have Excel 97 on my computer, so could somebody tell me
> whether these worked or not?
>
> Instructions to get to MS Excel 97 filght simulator
>
> Open Excel
>
> press control g
>
> enter in X97:L97
>
> press tap once
>
> click on the graph button,  pressing control shift at the same time
>
> You use the mouse to 'fly' around.
> ***************************************
> Anand Desai
> anandd@juno.com
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 07:58:25 -0700
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Hi Curtis--

Where can we find it? I didn't save the URL after downloading the last version.
:-(

--Larry Mittell

At 03:09 AM 5/15/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Anyone who is running Outlook please take a look at the latest version
>of the converter to go between the Phone and Database apps and
>Outlook's Contacts.

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Fransisco, you have discovered _one_ way of messing up data on the palmtop.
Others are:
-Removing or inserting PCMCIA cards while the unit is on.
-Backing up a data file while the corresponding application is running.
-Rebooting the unit while there are ongoing file applications,
-etc.

Despite these precautions, if you still get data file corruptions, join our
discussions here .......

Anand.

At 11:10 AM 16-05-99 Sunday , Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>"Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES> wrote:
>
>> I often use the Com1 in order to send data file to a PC. I always
>> use the AC adaptor too. But, when you  take out the alkaline
>> batteries, the Hp .......  HANG UP !!! Only with ctrl+Shift+ON i can
>> recover the palmtop.
>> Should not the batteries and the AC adaptor be
>> independent ?
>
>The palmtop is always looking at the main AA and backup button
>batteries to make sure they are working properly.  It even
>does this while the AC adapter is connected.  So, you should
>not pull out ANY batteries while the machine is running!  Turn
>it off first.
>
>
>Stan
>

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Loran,

The file size of my appointment file really goes down after I archive old
items. You can verify it, by way of an extreme example, by archiving all
appointments more than one day old.

There could be some corruption in your data/index.

I have reason to believe that a corrupted data file (phone.pdb in my case)
can corrupt other files on the c: drive just by running the corresponding
application. This happened on my machine which was 'hard reset' and with no
other external programs loaded. After I sanitised my phone file by the
Garlic treatment I have had no problems in the past few days.

Therefore, my suggestion is to attend to data file problems ASAP, lest the
corruptions cascade on.

Anand.

At 11:01 PM 15-05-99 Saturday , Loran Brooks wrote:
>I noticed that the appointment file on my 200 has data from appointments
>that have long been deleted.
>
>I was doing a text search in Filer and was surprised to see the Appt.adb
>was listed as having some of these items.  When I then did a view in
>filer, I found many appointments and associated notes from 1997!
>Searching for this text in the appointment application yielded no
>results (as expected).
>
>I regularly extract the last quarter's appointments and archive them on
>my pc (e.g. - 4Q97.adb), so I was surprised to find this data on my
>palmtop.  I have a 1MB 200, so space is at a premium.
>
>My questions are:
>
>1.  Why is this old data still in my appt.adb file?
>2.  Is it making my appt file larger than it needs to be (answer seems
>obvious)?
>3.  Has anyone run into this problem and what solutions have been
>proposed?
>
>Looking forward to your responses.
>
>L. Brooks
>
>

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Thanks to F. Kaufman and Ed Keefe for their responses; I'll quote the
pertinent responses and my results from trying their suggestions:

At 02:32 AM 5/16/99 +0000, F. Kaufman wrote:

1.  >Might you need another null modem adapter if you are linking two devices
>whose cables normally talk to a computer?

Thanks for the suggestion...tried it but had no success.  When I tried the
transfer WITHOUT the Null Modem Adapter, the 200 would beep, and a screen
message "Communications failure" comes up whenever the organizer screen
indicated an I/O error, indicating SOMETHING was getting through to the
200.   When  I inserted the Null Modem Adapter, still had the same failure,
but no beep from the 200, which leads me to believe it wasn't helping the
situation.


2.  >Also, make sure that in setup on the hp, you have SERIAL port ON in dos
>- it is one of the settings somewhere in there.  Sometimes the serial
>port can interfere but ususually it will connect but possibly break the
>connection.

Presumably you are referring to the check-box in the comm setup screen,
right below the fields where you set the IO address and interrupt (?)   It
reads "Enable Com1 Port in DOS".  I have the box checked and the IO address
set to 03F8, Interrupt 4.

I am running the OL390 program from the dos prompt after I  quit the
Application Manager, (from the applications screen, "Menu" key,
"Applications", and "Termintate all") so it  shouldn't be interfering.

I tried to transfer data many times (20 maybe), and about 3 times  Iwas
able to get a transfer to work.  Thinking perhaps there was a bad
connection between the two units, I checked them out, then tried again, but
no luck.  I then thought perhaps the batteries were low (nicads) so I
replaced those batteries wtih fresh alkalines (1.6 volts each), but that
didn't help matters either.  Finally I plugged in the AC Adapter (disabled
charging first!), but it didn't help the situation either.  Thinking again
that  the connector attached to the organizer might be flaky, I hooked it
up to the desktop pc, ran OL390 on it, and transferred files flawlessly
from the organizer...even jiggled the connectors while transferring to see
if I could abort it...but it  worked fine.


Ed Keefe responded:

>You'll need a null modem adaptor (and maybe a gender changer, but I'm not
>sure of that) since the cable you're using is already set up as a null
>modem cable.

See 1. above.

>The Communication setup is in the setup program (CTRL+F1) and then F6. My
>com port1 is set to 2f8 with interrupt 2 and it lets me connect to my
>desktop. I also have checked Enable Com1 port in DOS.

I tried changning the IO setting to 2F8 and interrupt 2 as suggested,
however there was no difference in the response.  A few times I was
successful with 03F8, so it appears something else is amiss.  I was also
able to transfer files flawlessly with Transfile Win 200 from my ol' 486
with an  early version (pre-OSR2) of W95  with the 03f8/4 settings.

>Of course, all this may become moot once you start using the PIMs in the
>200LX. Will you need to carry along another organizer no matter how small
>it is

I like to use a smaller organizer for two reasons:

1.  The YO350 fits nicely in a shirt pocket, and isn't too heavy.  My needs
are modest, so I don't need mb's of space that the typical business user
might need.

2.  If I should drop it/it falls from my pocket & quits working, it's a $40
replacement, compared to the cost of an HP 200!

That's not to say I might not change my mind, but this suits my current
needs nicely.

>For email, you might be able to get by with the built in software but
>others use a combination of POSTLX, WWW/LX and acCIS (for CSi).  Hop over
>to www.palmtoppaper.com for more ideas about what's in strore.

Thanks for the tip, but I beat you to this one!  I've downloaded the demo
of WWW/LX; just need to get it installed & set up.  I'm eager to try this
out...it's nice that the company makes the full version available for a
limited trial; I'm looking forward to giving it a whirl.  FWIW, I've looked
at a ton of stuff at Palmtoppaper, Scotty's Palmtop Mania, etc., plus a few
paper catalogs I've been able to get my hands on.  This thing has
temporarily taken over my life!

So far this has been my experience with this program.  The intermittent
nature of this problem has me baffled. Perhaps this program wasn't intended
to run on the 200!  The serial port works fine with Transfile Win 200 on my
old 486 with an early version of W95 (pre-OSR2), since I was able to
transfer the OL390 files from the desktop to the 200, so it seems the port
is functioning.  Sure hope this doesn't signify a defective serial port on
the 200, or I've been taken for a ride - bought it used!

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions.  If anyone has additional
ideas, I'd appreciate hearing 'em!

TIA,

Al Creswell
Salem Oregon
al.creswell@worldnet.att.net

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> Any hard facts on larger memories for Hp 200 Lx? Avi I am a bit jeoulse...mine is
> currently a 1 mb...

Well, it will probably hurt if I said that now I have 2 64MBs and one 32MB,
right? Well, I won't say that then. :)

If you have a burning desire, I can even do the upgrade for you. Send me a
200LX, and some $$$ and I'll take care of it. I feel confident now to the the
work, having done my own machines several times, just to practice...

The most useful machine to upgrade is a 200LX 2MB, because you really end up
with a 66MB, 64 plus 2MB. The 4MB machine takes you doen to 64 + 2MB, so you
lose 2MB. The 1MB is 64 + 1 after the upgrade.

> I want to upgrade my Hp 200 to 32 mb ram, but I can not find the money for a 32 mb
> upgrade so I will have to settle for a 8mb doublespeed upgrade...

Agree, it is not cheap. There is a lot of money in the boards, and a lot of
time on the work itself. I believe Thaddeus charges $395 for a 200LX -> 32MB.
I am not 100% sure, but I believe the speed upgrade comes with the 32M and 64M
upgrades already.

> Should I wait a while and save up some more money and maybe get the 32 mb for less
> in the near future?

Oh, you mean you think I was saying more memory is coming? I did not mean to
imply this, just a general speculation about _SOMETHING_ that is overdue in
coming along! Anything!

If I understand correctly, Mack, or Hal(?) posted before one time that the max
addressability of the palmtop is 128M. But I recall that it was totally not in
the works when it was posted. The upgrades must be horribly expensive!!! If a
64MB upgrade costs (per Thaddeus) $695, then a 128 would be $1200! It reaches
a point where the toy pursuit is too-too expensive. But then, I said so about
the 64MB :-) ....

What I really would like to see is some super smart software that will turn
the palmtops into a sought-after machine suddenly: Example - a Lotus Notes
client (not just email). Or maybe a superset of StockChart (which we sell)
that will allow also for online trading. Or maybe some amazing application
that will serve as an extended PIM / Contact Manager.

I am not trying to start any rumors, just expressing my desires, really...

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 02:49:08 -0700
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Anand,

> Searching in the archives I saw several mentions of data corruption,
> specially of the phone database(possibly because it is normally the largest
> in size and therefore more susceptible?).

I highly doubt that! I have two phonebooks at about 350K (1200+ entries) (as
well as GDBs larger than 1 and 2MB) and neither corrupts in the frequency that
I read here. When I experience corruptions it is almost 99% my own fault.

Generayy, databases are very robust structures on the palmtop. However, you
can easily break them by doing "unnatural acts" with them :) ...

Example: I believe the vast majority od the failures are caused by this
practice: You open a database, update something (or even not!!) then close it.
Out of lack of patience or attention, you turn off the machine, and pull out
the PCMCIA. You just destroyed the database.

Example: With SC it is easy to open the same file in two sessions (the claim
that the newer SC versions protect against it can be shown to be be
ineffective!) That wipes out a database.

Example: Again with SC: You open two different databases, one in each
Workarea. One of them can be destroyed. (I know what Thaddeus says about the
mechanism built into SC about making sure this does not happen. I managed on
several occasions to destroy databases in tests.)

I never open two databases concurrently now. I have only ONE workarea with
SysMgr running for that reason. This makes using SC a terrific experience,
without the aggravation of destroying databases.

So I highly recommend SC, but with prudent caution.

Example: A drive is somewhat corrupt. The results are totally unpredictable.
It is very easy to cross-link files. (This is basically when the file
allocation table thinks that one part of a file really belongs to another (and
vice versa). Run CHKDSK periodically. Run it when you have booted in the
middle of write operations.

Example: You boot in the middle of a write operation. You may think the
machine is frozen, but instead it is just a 80186 chip running at 7.9MHz or
16MHz - meaning slowly!

Example: You have no doubts that nothing that you did destroyed a database. In
fact you had no database open for a week! :) --- yet the phonebook or whatever
is corrupt. Sounds like a gremlin living on your disk, no?

Probably not. It is very possible that either another file is now cross linked
to the database or some other program went into the disk and did strange
things there. This is possible if you use two PC cards, and you pull the cards
in the middle of running a program. The palmtops are so versatile that it is
easy to forget they can be vulnerable.

Many vetran users seem to have a lot less troubles, yet, they many times use
the palmtops much more intensively that more new users. That should be ahint!
:) --- use the palmtop more to have less troubles :) ...

What I am trying to say is that we develop habits that are safe over time, and
it helps us. The work you do with developing strategies and tools is very
valuable, but don't let it take you focus away from practicing proper
procedures to begin with. No macros will save you from corruptions if yuo
practice bad database "behaviour".

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Avi,

Just the kind of feedback I was looking for. I have retained only some
parts of your message below to provide context to what I am saying now.

Obviously, several of us, specially the 'power users', maintain a lot of
(critical) data on the palmtops and do not suffer from data loss problems.
If we can discuss the strategies used by them, we can compile the 'best
practices' for this purpose.

I do this very often - turn on the palmtop to refer to some data and turn
it off immediately thereafter. Is this a risky practice? How long does one
have to wait to turn out the unit? Or should one wait for the normal
time-out? If I have updated something, I wait for the hour-glass symbol to
disappear before I turn the unit off.  But in case of read-only access, I
turn it off immediately. Is this unsafe?

A call to Everyone on the List -  borrowing Avi's words, can we compile a
list of 'unnatural acts' to avoid , and develop 'habits that are safe', so
that we are as protected as the veterans are?

Anand.


At 05:49 PM 16-05-99 Sunday , A Meshar wrote:
>Anand,
>

>I highly doubt that! I have two phonebooks at about 350K (1200+ entries) (as
>well as GDBs larger than 1 and 2MB) and neither corrupts in the frequency that
>I read here. When I experience corruptions it is almost 99% my own fault.
>
>Generayy, databases are very robust structures on the palmtop. However, you
>can easily break them by doing "unnatural acts" with them :) ...
>
>Example: I believe the vast majority od the failures are caused by this
>practice: You open a database, update something (or even not!!) then close it.
>Out of lack of patience or attention, you turn off the machine, and pull out
>the PCMCIA. You just destroyed the database.
>

>
>Example: A drive is somewhat corrupt. The results are totally unpredictable.
>It is very easy to cross-link files. (This is basically when the file
>allocation table thinks that one part of a file really belongs to another (and
>vice versa). Run CHKDSK periodically. Run it when you have booted in the
>middle of write operations.
>
.......
>
>Probably not. It is very possible that either another file is now cross linked
>to the database or some other program went into the disk and did strange
>things there. This is possible if you use two PC cards, and you pull the cards
>in the middle of running a program. The palmtops are so versatile that it is
>easy to forget they can be vulnerable.
>
>Many vetran users seem to have a lot less troubles, yet, they many times use
>the palmtops much more intensively that more new users. That should be ahint!
>:) --- use the palmtop more to have less troubles :) ...
>
>What I am trying to say is that we develop habits that are safe over time, and
>it helps us. The work you do with developing strategies and tools is very
>valuable, but don't let it take you focus away from practicing proper
>procedures to begin with. No macros will save you from corruptions if yuo
>practice bad database "behaviour".
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>  http://www.dasoft.com
>

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Hello

Is the synche to outlook solved now? Can people merge or whatever
they do with it with the 200LX?

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Subject:      Differant colored screen

I was wondering, do you prefer the green color to the LX screen?
Or would you be just as happy with a more contrasty screen that worked
a little better in low light conditions but had a differant background and
maybe had a backlight?

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>>This thing has taken over my life.

Looks like you're becoming obsessive-compulsive about this tool. Welcome =
to
the group.<g>
I hesitate to add to your OCD, but have you been over to the SUPER site
yet?

If you were able to get the transfer to work 3/20 times, then something i=
s
working right and then failing: one of those intermittent, nuisance bugs.=
 =


Baud rate: is it the same on both machines?  From DOS, you can use the MO=
DE
command to set the port and baud rate. Type MODE /? for a little help. (I=

can never remember what all those settings are.) What is the baud rate of=

the YO 350? =


The software might need a '286 or better. But in that case it should not
have worked 3 times. Do the docs for the YO 350 give the requirements for=

the software?

The serial port might, indeed, be flakey. One way to test: get ZIP.ZIP fr=
om
SUPER and set it up on the 200LX and a desktop and see if you can transfe=
r
files back and forth between those two machines, or  try the Kermit
protocol in DataComm and Kermit on the desktop to see if you can get the
machines to communicate. =


Finally, if the serial port has a loose connection inside the machine--it=

happens--it can be repaired. =


.ed.

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>>Example: With SC it is easy to open the same file in two sessions (the
claim
that the newer SC versions protect against it can be shown to be be
ineffective!) That wipes out a database.<<

Tell me more: ver 7.07 of SC is almost too bullet-proof. I've never been
able to open a second copy of the same database, notetaker, phonebook,
apptbook in more than one sysmgr session--at least not using ordinary
methods of opening (blue keys, filer.ini associations ). If you know how =
to
do it, I'd be willing to sacrifice a database to the cause. It would make=
 a
good tip.

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Ed Keefe wrote:
>
> David Ness wrote:
> >>I run APL Plus v11 and an early version of J on my 200 without any
> particular difficulty.
>
> David, is APL Plus v11 commercial or shareware?  I've played with the old
> IAPL interpreter and found it difficult to get the hang of the keystrokes.
> I also have a copy of J somewhere in the software archive. I think it's one
> of the earlier releases.
>

This APL is the old STSC / Manuguistics product. For better or for
worse my fingers `know' the location of the APL symbols so the
screwy keyboard doesn't give me any trouble, and by now I even know
what screwy symbol will be displayed. It is clear, however,
why Iverson went to `normal' characters when he developed `J'.

J was freeware up thru release 6.something. I think a V7 was built
but not officially released. When J became a commercial product the
`version' sequence started over, and the current version is
J4.02a / J4.03beta. The new Js, even when there was a DOS version
(there _isn't_ a DOS version any longer) never worked on the 200 as
it required an 80286 at a minimum from the earliest days.

>
> In defense of HP Calc, I think it's important to realize that it is a large
> screen version of the HP 19B II Business calculator. It was never meant to
> compete with the HP 48 (what could?). There are some nice touches such as
> tieing HP Calc and Solver to the built-in 1-2-3 spreadsheet. But, you're
> right, the HP Palmtop was not meant to be a calculator alone.
>
> .ed.
>

I agree. Please understand I wasn't trying to `pick' on the 200.
It's just when people claim the 200 is a `good calculator' I often
think that they have forgotten what calculators were all about.
Perhaps it's that most people don't have real `calculator' problems
much. They have data retrieval problems, or lookup problems, or
appointment and phone record problems. The 200 is _much_ better for
all of these.

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> A call to Everyone on the List -  borrowing Avi's words, can we compile a
> list of 'unnatural acts' to avoid , and develop 'habits that are safe', so
> that we are as protected as the veterans are?

I think Stan already said generally what I, too, do.  I open a db file
(appt, phone, notetaker) reference what I need and then generally close
it.  May take a bit longer but I have never lost a file in about 5 or 6
years of use.

And I do have lockups.  Ctrl-alt-del lockups and Ctrl-leftshit-on
lockups.  I am always testing someone's software in beta.  KNOCK ON
WOOD, I survive.  I have a 6 meg c: drive and I use Software Carousel
regularly.  I only use ONE sysmgr session.  I do keep my db files on my
a: 40 meg sandisk - also a little slower but I like the HARD copy.

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Al Creswell,

I have a 200LX and my wife has a YO-370.  Tell me about the OL390 software=
. Does it include a cable?  Where can I get it?  Is it available used?  =
If so, where would I look for it?  It probable costs more than the =
organizer. (G)  How much?      =3DBob=3D

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Anand,

> -Rebooting the unit while there are ongoing file applications,

If a database application is open (notebook, WDB, Phone, db, et) is OPEN, but
you are NOT writing anything at the moment, rebooting causes no harm!

Next time you open that database it will take more time, because the palmtop
has to rebuild the index portion of the file, but the data itself remains
intact! Don't get too carried away...

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 09:15:41 -0700
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Les,

> Then why does the "D" drive have a default value of BUFFERS=20?

Don't let the presence of anything on the D drive be interpreted as
authoritative and knowledgeable! :)

HP did some really dumb things on the D drive (mostly terrific, but there were
several items indicating a momentary disconnect from the brains...)

Example: ASSIGN is a command that was obsoleted when MS-DOS 5.0 came out. It was
replaced by SUBST. My MSDOS 5 manual specifically states: "Assign is obsolete.
It was replaced by a better program SUBST. Use SUBST." (I am not quoting
directly, but out of memory...) It also states that the reason ASSIGN is in
the installation diskette is for purposes of COMPATIBILITY ONLY with prior MS
DOS versions. Well, HP picked the brain-dead ASSIGN and put it on the D:
drive.

Another example: The rechargeable batteries. The built-in charging mechanism
uses 6 hours. This was enough for the 500mAh batteries that were available in
1992-1993, but they also knew the batteries were going to move up in capacity.

The battery charging electronics get warm when it does its thing. There is
also a sensor on the palmtop to sense the temprature and thus warp the LCD
panel elements. Well, some "bright" one put the sensor really close to the
charging elecronics, so when you charge the battery, the screen gets dard,
since the sensor reports higher ambient temp!

Anyway, the list goes on. LLRA is close to braindead, etc...

The best way to use the stuff on the D: as an advise, a mere starting
position, "talking points" :-) ...

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 16:18:33 GMT
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Subject:      Re: Fluff  Excel flight simulator
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On Sat, 15 May 1999 22:23:15 +0200, you wrote:

>Kind of off topic but I was wondering if anyone has messed with the
>flight simulator in Excel?

I just did, neat easter egg..  However, like a few early flight
simulators they got the screen roll backards!  Banks left to turn
right..  :(  Really disorienting.

The central credits are kinda neat, as is the water..  I flew around
for a few minutes before the backwards banks drove me nuts.  :)

Here are the instructions, fixed a little. :)

>> Open Excel
>>
>> press control g
>>
>> enter in X97:L97
>>
>> press tap once
         ¬¬¬ tab
>>
>> click on the graph button,  pressing control shift at the same time
                ¬¬¬¬¬ chart wizard

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Anand,

> The file size of my appointment file really goes down after I archive old
> items. You can verify it, by way of an extreme example, by archiving all
> appointments more than one day old.
>
> There could be some corruption in your data/index.

Probably not! It is probably the case that your correspondent simply archived
but DID NOT REMOVE the items he archived. There is a checkbox for it.

> I have reason to believe that a corrupted data file (phone.pdb in my case)
> can corrupt other files on the c: drive just by running the corresponding
> application. This happened on my machine which was 'hard reset' and with no
> other external programs loaded. After I sanitised my phone file by the
> Garlic treatment I have had no problems in the past few days.

I think you will find no factual support for the "crossover corruption" effect
you describe. It sounds more like a corrupt FAT and cross linked file, but not
one bad file being processed jumping on another file and corrupting it.

You probably need to look at you PC card and make sure it is not having a bad
hair day - use CHKDSK generously. If you can lay hands on Norton Utils 6 - use
Norton Disk Doctor too!

> Therefore, my suggestion is to attend to data file problems ASAP, lest the
> corruptions cascade on.

EXCELLENT suggestion, but not because of the reason you gave. in many cases
the FAT is corrupt or slightly out of whack, and files get cross linked. I.e.
the FAT shows that cluster xyz belongs to both files. That means, one, or both
files are in trouble. If you continue with bad information, it is possible for
more corruptions to occur, until the FAT is gone over and cleaned up. So that
is why not to hesitate... But one corruption can scarcely cause another, I
just don't see that happening... Or maybe an extreme rarity...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com
>
> Anand.
>
> At 11:01 PM 15-05-99 Saturday , Loran Brooks wrote:
> >I noticed that the appointment file on my 200 has data from appointments
> >that have long been deleted.
> >
> >I was doing a text search in Filer and was surprised to see the Appt.adb
> >was listed as having some of these items.  When I then did a view in
> >filer, I found many appointments and associated notes from 1997!
> >Searching for this text in the appointment application yielded no
> >results (as expected).
> >
> >I regularly extract the last quarter's appointments and archive them on
> >my pc (e.g. - 4Q97.adb), so I was surprised to find this data on my
> >palmtop.  I have a 1MB 200, so space is at a premium.
> >
> >My questions are:
> >
> >1.  Why is this old data still in my appt.adb file?
> >2.  Is it making my appt file larger than it needs to be (answer seems
> >obvious)?
> >3.  Has anyone run into this problem and what solutions have been
> >proposed?
> >
> >Looking forward to your responses.
> >
> >L. Brooks
> >
> >
>
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 09:40:48 -0700
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Martin Bergvill: The message I posted (which you replied to) was also sen=
t to
your private email, and it seems to have bounced. My norwegian is somewha=
t
weak (well, at ZERO really, only the parts that are like German I underst=
and,
so not much!) Here is what I get back.=20

I am posting on the list, because you asked me some private questions tha=
t I
now cannot answer - give me a good email address, in private, please...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: Mailer-Daemon@mobilpost.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:52:27 +0200
To: sponsor@ftel.net
Subject: Feilet melding

Den f=F8lgende melding til martin@mobilpost.com, kunne ikke leveres p=E5 =
grunn av
ukjent mottager:

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 17:45:35 +0000
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              Norman Wolfe <norman.wolfe@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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I have installed x-finder on my x2, 32mb 200lx and find it an exceptional
program. I know I am not using it to its full capability.

Is there a group trying out x-finder and exchanging emails on their
successes and failures? If so, please add me to your mailing list.

What is a source of the recommended editor, le.exm and the recommended
viewer, me.exm? Do they work with roman character sets or just with Jappanese?

tia.. Norm Wolfe, Washington, DC

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Comments: To: norman.wolfe@WORLDNET.ATT.NET

On 05-16 10:45am, Norm Wolfe, Washington, Wrote::

> I have installed x-finder on my x2, 32mb 200lx and find it an exceptional
> program. I know I am not using it to its full capability.
>
> Is there a group trying out x-finder and exchanging emails on their
> successes and failures? If so, please add me to your mailing list.

We all use the HPLX-L LIST. (:-)

> What is a source of the recommended editor, le.exm and the recommended
> viewer, me.exm? Do they work with roman character sets or just with
> Jappanese?


As far the editor goes use what you like, but I use MEMO and for my viewer
I use VU.






Regards,

Qman...

HPLX.NET Affiliated
http://qman.hplx.net
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 15:42:56 -0400
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Sun, 16 May 1999 15:32:47 -0400 (EDT)

01h47m12s ago ...
On Sun, 16 May 1999, Norman Wolfe wrote:

> I have installed x-finder on my x2, 32mb 200lx and find it an exceptiona=
l
> program...

Excellent move!  <g>

> Is there a group trying out x-finder and exchanging emails on their
> successes and failures?

Like Qman said - this is the place.

> What is a source of the recommended editor, le.exm and the recommended
> viewer, me.exm? Do they work with roman character sets or just with
> Jappanese?

They need fonts from the commercial JKIT package (Japanese language
environment).  Those programs (and lots of cool stuff) are at:
        http://www.vector.co.jp/common/dos/util/machine/hp
They're in .lzh archives, not zip, so you'll need LHA (available on
Simtel) to extract 'em.  (You should have LHA to use with X-Finder
anyway).  I use VDE for the editor, and Vern Buerg's List for the
viewer.

There are several XF users here, so anything you want to discuss about
XF - post it here.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 13:45:07 -0600
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I tried this with Excel 97 SR1 with SR2 installed. Didn't work for me. Any
further help/instructions?

Open Excel
press control g
enter in X97:L97
press tab once
click on the chart wizard button pressing control shift at the same time

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

John Musielewicz wrote:

> Kind of off topic but I was wondering if anyone has messed with the
> flight simulator in Excel?
>
> anandd@juno.com writes:
> > These are the instructions I got for getting to the Excel 97 flight
> > simulator-I don't have Excel 97 on my computer, so could somebody tell me
> > whether these worked or not?
> >
> > Instructions to get to MS Excel 97 filght simulator
> >
> > Open Excel
> >
> > press control g
> >
> > enter in X97:L97
> >
> > press tap once
> >
> > click on the graph button,  pressing control shift at the same time
> >
> > You use the mouse to 'fly' around.
> > ***************************************
> > Anand Desai
> > anandd@juno.com
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
> > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨
>
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 13:17:58 -0700
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Fred,

> I think Stan already said generally what I, too, do.  I open a db file
> (appt, phone, notetaker) reference what I need and then generally close
> it.  May take a bit longer but I have never lost a file in about 5 or 6
> years of use.

Agree. I lost stuff, but it was almost exclusively my own fault. Once or twice
I could not understand what happened.

> And I do have lockups.  Ctrl-alt-del lockups and Ctrl-leftshit-on
> lockups.  I am always testing someone's software in beta.  KNOCK ON

U-oh!!! Are you blaming Andreas? :-> (Fred is a long time D&A Beta Tester.
Notice how I resisted using the phrase "Old beta tester"? :¨ ...)

> WOOD, I survive.  I have a 6 meg c: drive and I use Software Carousel
> regularly.  I only use ONE sysmgr session.  I do keep my db files on my
> a: 40 meg sandisk - also a little slower but I like the HARD copy.

Bingo. I have one SysMgr WA too. That seems to be a commonality, as well
closing files...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 13:17:56 -0700
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Ed,

> Tell me more: ver 7.07 of SC is almost too bullet-proof. I've never been

First, How can one tell that one uses version 7.07 of SC?

> able to open a second copy of the same database, notetaker, phonebook,
> apptbook in more than one sysmgr session--at least not using ordinary
> methods of opening (blue keys, filer.ini associations ). If you know how
> to do it, I'd be willing to sacrifice a database to the cause. It would make
>  a good tip.

Open a COPY of a database in one WA. Now go to another WA and start up SysMgr.
Now use another ORDINARY METHOD: Press B or better, highlight the database
icon and press the enter key. Now you can open that database again. AND
corrupt it instantly.

I demonstrate this about two-three times a month to my customers. If my
version is older, I'd love to check out 7.07 (I was part of the beta, too, and
I believe I got it, but perhaps not used it?)

Aside from that and one or two other quirks of SC, I think it is one the best
items that came for the Palmtop - Thank you late Stanley Kubrik! May you rest
in peace... (And thanks, Hal, for pushing Tolson to make this reality!)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 23:41:24 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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A Meshar wrote:

> Martin Bergvill: The message I posted (which you replied to) was also s=
ent to
> your private email, and it seems to have bounced. My norwegian is somew=
hat
> weak (well, at ZERO really, only the parts that are like German I under=
stand,
> so not much!) Here is what I get back.
>
> I am posting on the list, because you asked me some private questions t=
hat I
> now cannot answer - give me a good email address, in private, please...
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: Mailer-Daemon@mobilpost.com
> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:52:27 +0200
> To: sponsor@ftel.net
> Subject: Feilet melding
>
> Den f=F8lgende melding til martin@mobilpost.com, kunne ikke leveres p=E5=
 grunn av
> ukjent mottager:
>
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>
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Sorry try this one

martin.bergvill@c2i.net

The martin@mobilpost.com is good..the message you got from the deamon tel=
ls you
that the user is unknow...well I guess Telenor Mobil mailserver is down...

If you could please send to the c2i adress I would be gratefull...

Thanks in advance


--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 19:38:06 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 Looking for some 95LX palmtops if you have one hanging around sitting
there not in use let me know PLEASE!!

 sputnik@voicenet.com

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 22:20:47 -0500
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              Francois Gurin <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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well my 200lx finally bit the dust... actually, after years of rather
rough handling it slipped out of my  jacket pocket, hit the floor
flat, and shattered the screen.

as this happenedon my way home, i thought i may have lost the notes
of an important  meeting that day..  BUT i  waslucky and was able
to copy  everything over to my PC.

As the only problem with the machine  is the broken lcd, I am currently
looking for broken units with the lcd panel intact.

I know other 200lx's are acceptable, and assume 100lx's and 1000cx's
shouldn't be a problem.  Not sure  if 95lx's and 700's will work for
me and i'd love to get confirmation info.

thanks
--francois

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 21:57:53 -0500
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Hi Avi,

<<I'd love to check out 7.07 (I was part of the beta, too, and
I believe I got it, but perhaps not used it?)>>

No, 7.07 came out after the original beta although I thot I send it to
you.

Ed Keefe, if you are listening, (or anyone else) could you send Avi the
7.07 carousel.pgm file.  (I am on the road, it's a long story, but
because of my setup + connection problems it would be a hassle to send
it-- and I don't think I will be able to logon on for a few more days).

It doesn't sound like you have 7.07.

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 03:09:39 GMT
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Subject:      Re: Synche to Outlook
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John Musielewicz wrote:

>Is the synche to outlook solved now? Can people merge or whatever
>they do with it with the 200LX?

You can send data from Outlook's calendar to the palmtop's appointment
book. It doesn't yet do both directions, but I think the author is
working on that. It's available from the S.U.P.E.R. site at
www.palmtop.net.

=46or Outlook's Contacts and the LX PDB and GDB files, I have done a
bi-directional converter. This is available from my web page at
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html.

Neither of these is truly a synchronize, which would take the newest
data from both places and send it to the other.

--=20
Curtis Cameron

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Larry Mittell wrote:

>Where can we find it? I didn't save the URL after downloading the last =
version.

Sorry. It's at http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I know other 200lx's are acceptable, and assume 100lx's and 1000cx's
shouldn't be a problem.  Not sure  if 95lx's and 700's will work for
me and i'd love to get confirmation info.>>

Screen replacements: 100Lx and 1000CX yes. 95LX no. Thin 700 is OK but
am not sure.

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 20:27:12 -0700
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From:         Tim Shephard <tim_shephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Need Transfile 200
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I can't find the link to get the Transfile win 200 program.

Does anyone have it handy?

Thanks

-Tim=20
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302=20

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<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I can't find the link to get the =
Transfile win=20
200 program.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Does anyone have it =
handy?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>-Tim <BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:tim.shephard@bigfoot.com">tim.shephard@bigfoot.com</A><BR>=
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:tims.phone@bigfoot.com">tims.phone@bigfoot.com</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha">http://www.bigfoot.c=
om/~tim.shephard/tim/ha</A><BR>eFax=20
(508) 590-0302 </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 20:45:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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Nevermind.  I found it ;-)


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim Shephard <tim_shephard@earthlink.net>
    To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
    Date: Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:28 PM
    Subject: Need Transfile 200
   =20
   =20
    I can't find the link to get the Transfile win 200 program.
    =20
    Does anyone have it handy?
    =20
    Thanks
    =20
    -Tim=20
    tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
    tims.phone@bigfoot.com
    http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
    eFax (508) 590-0302=20

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HTML//EN">
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Nevermind.&nbsp; I found it =
;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Tim Shephard &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:tim_shephard@earthlink.net">tim_shephard@earthlink.net</A>=
&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
    </B><A =
href=3D"mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU">HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU</A>=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU">HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU</A>&gt;=
<BR><B>Date:=20
    </B>Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:28 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Need Transfile=20
    200<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I can't find the link to get the =
Transfile=20
    win 200 program.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Does anyone have it =
handy?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>-Tim <BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:tim.shephard@bigfoot.com">tim.shephard@bigfoot.com</A><BR>=
<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:tims.phone@bigfoot.com">tims.phone@bigfoot.com</A><BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha">http://www.bigfoot.c=
om/~tim.shephard/tim/ha</A><BR>eFax=20
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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 21:37:29 -0700
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>Anand,

>> -Rebooting the unit while there are ongoing file applications,

>If a database application is open (notebook, WDB, Phone, db, et) is
OPEN, but
>you are NOT writing anything at the moment, rebooting causes no harm!

>Next time you open that database it will take more time, because the
palmtop
>has to rebuild the index portion of the file, but the data itself
remains
>intact! Don't get too carried away...

I disagree. Phone Book is more susceptible to coruption than other
databases. I have verified (many times) that a re-boot with an open
phone book will corrupt the phone book database.

A reboot with an open database or notebook will usualy NOT corrupt.

This is an easy thing to verify.

Make a backup of all you files.
Open them.
Re-boot (I don't know if there is any difference between a hard boot and
a soft boot)
Try to reopen your files.
You will most likely find that pdb has corrupted and tha the others have
not.

Bob

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 04:38:05 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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bob wrote:

>I disagree. Phone Book is more susceptible to coruption than other
>databases. I have verified (many times) that a re-boot with an open
>phone book will corrupt the phone book database.
>
>A reboot with an open database or notebook will usualy NOT corrupt.
>
>This is an easy thing to verify.
>
>Make a backup of all you files.
>Open them.
>Re-boot (I don't know if there is any difference between a hard boot and
>a soft boot)
>Try to reopen your files.
>You will most likely find that pdb has corrupted and tha the others have
>not.

Over the course of the years (I got the 200LX when it was first
intoduced), I have never had a corrupted PDB file. I have rebooted
with it open countless times.

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Date:         Sun, 16 May 1999 21:50:15 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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The only time I have ever corrupted a PDB is by leaving it open, going into note
taker and entering a note with F3.  This sometimes gives me a lack of memory
error (there is plenty available) and shows me garbage in the note, I can exit
the note and if I wish exit the note taker without trouble.  However, the PDB
that was open in the background is ruined.

Dan Carrington




Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> bob wrote:
>
> >I disagree. Phone Book is more susceptible to coruption than other
> >databases. I have verified (many times) that a re-boot with an open
> >phone book will corrupt the phone book database.
> >
> >A reboot with an open database or notebook will usualy NOT corrupt.
> >
> >This is an easy thing to verify.
> >
> >Make a backup of all you files.
> >Open them.
> >Re-boot (I don't know if there is any difference between a hard boot and
> >a soft boot)
> >Try to reopen your files.
> >You will most likely find that pdb has corrupted and tha the others have
> >not.
>
> Over the course of the years (I got the 200LX when it was first
> intoduced), I have never had a corrupted PDB file. I have rebooted
> with it open countless times.
>
> --
> Curtis
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 12:13:00 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Subject:      X-Finder - todo.exm / lhe.exe / LE / ME
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Does anyone know where I can get todo.exm, LE (Logexpress), ME
(MemoExpress) and lhe.exe?  Those programs are mentioned in the Finder.txt
of X-Finder

Furthermore I don't get working Memo as Editor in X-Finder (German
Palmtop) and the Zip/Unzip-funkion (I use Pkunzip and changed the
programname in Finder.env, but this does not help)

Bye, Axel

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Does anyone have any (non-assembly) source code to use the 200LX serial
port?

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Subject:      Stacker password

Morning all
Does any know how to enter a new STACKER
password at the DOS command line?

The format is PASSWD x: oldpasswd Ýnewpasswd¨ but
                     D: . newpasswd or
                  filename: . newpasswd
doesn't do it.  The . is if you have no old password.

The stacker file is not opened (installed), need it be?

yor pal al.......................


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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 15:56:07 +0000
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Hi everyone,

        thank for all your comments about the HP data corruption and hang
ups.

        Knows someone if exists any DOS command (or little program) to check
the batteries ?? It will be very useful for me. I know that in
'Config' (inside the windows applications you can consult it) but i
am interested in a DOS command)

        Thanks again !!

        Regards, Frank

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 09:06:00 -0500
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Thank you to everyone that responded to my previous query about using 1-2-3
for a project I am working on.... now I need more help. For the sake of this
discussion, let's assume I am using the following item, because the rest are
very similar and then let me ask some more questions:

Inventory Number: 93922886
Material Description #1: 1/8" Graf X 1-3/4"ID X 2"OD
Material Description #2: none on this item
Selling Price: $1.50
Cost: $0.75
Source: n/a

Okay, here's my questions:

1) Once I enter several items, how do I get it to sort the inventory numbers
into order?

2) It won't let me enter the 1/8" description, because I assume that it
thinks the 1/8 is a formula(?). I did enlarge the cell to the proper width,
but how do I make it take it as just plain text?

3) Why can't I figure this out by myself? <g>... I'm usually pretty adept at
this stuff, but all the darn LX does is beep at me :(

If someone could please take me by the hand and guide me down the path I
would be extremely thankful!

Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 09:12:36 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199905171406.JAA12622x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at May 17,
              99 09:06:00 am
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> Inventory Number: 93922886
> Material Description #1: 1/8" Graf X 1-3/4"ID X 2"OD
> Material Description #2: none on this item
> Selling Price: $1.50
> Cost: $0.75
> Source: n/a
>
> Okay, here's my questions:
>
> 1) Once I enter several items, how do I get it to sort the inventory numbers
> into order?

You have to enter the information such that each column is a database field.
E.g., column A = Inventory Number, B = Descr#1, C = Descr#2, etc...)  Then
you can sort the database by using the MENU-DATA-SORT command.  You chose
which column to sort by, ascending or descending, and also secondary and
tertiary sort fields.

> 2) It won't let me enter the 1/8" description, because I assume that it
> thinks the 1/8 is a formula(?). I did enlarge the cell to the proper width,
> but how do I make it take it as just plain text?

Start your field out with a single or double quote, or a caret, depending
on whether you want the text to be left, right, or center justified.


-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 10:32:09 -0400
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              bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM
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After hearing it discussed on this list and looking at the specs I went ahead
and purchased a used OmniBook 800. It came with 16Mb and 1.3 GB hard drive. I
was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased their
memory size, and what they thought it did for performance? Also, the unit came
with no documentation or CDROM, but the seller took a credit card order, so I
am pretty sure it is a legitimate sale. I know the reference book is built in,
but did you receive a "Recovery CDROM" with yours? Knowing how stable Windows
95 is, I am pretty sure that at some point I am going to have to reload. When I
contacted the seller, he said that I would have to contact HP, but that didn't
sound quite right, so I thought I'd tap the experience of other OB 800 owners.

I appreciate any feedback you might have.

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     Peter,

     The file on SUPER is called (on SUPER)"IRDA Printer Drivers". I think
     that after it downloads from SUPER it is called "irda097.zip". I have
     the Palmtop paper CD that has "irda200.zip". These (based on size of
     file) appear to be the same files although the readme.txt file in the
     irda097.zip file is very short and hard to understand. I will attach
     the irda200 files to this message. They are not so big that there
     would be a problem sending on the internet. The files are:

     Comtsr.com         8,849   Put in C:\
     lamptsr.com        26,657  Put in C:\
     ld.bat             30      Put in C:\  this batch file loads the TSR
     uld.bat            30      Put in C:\ this batch file unloads the TSR
     irda.tsr           832     Put in C:\dat
     readme.txt         4,619   this readme file is from me
     readme1.txt        731     this readme file is from irda097.zip
                                renamed to readme1.txt

     add (without"") to your autoexec.bat before the last line(which should
     be "200" the line, "call c:\ld.bat" and save to c:\.

     use the instructions from the file I sent(I'll resend this today) from
     readme.txt. As I said, readme1.txt is too short and confusing.

     The only conflict that I know of is "Buddy". I have experimented with
     putting the "call C:\ld.bat" both before and after the "Buddy" line
     and when printing I get a plash of the HPLJ's IR led, then NO print.
     Without Buddy loaded(I have my normal autoexec.bat file on the A drive
     flashcard(default) and my IR print enabled autoexec.bat (without
     buddy) on my C drive), I get the LED on the IR port of the HPLJ
     continuing to flash and printing occurs.

     As to setting up the HPLJ5p, on the 6p the "I/O option" is set to
     "auto". This is what the configuration page that is printed out says.
     I've never set up these printers as they are used here where I work
     and are already set up.

     I will CC this to the listserv and perhaps some of the REAL experts on
     the 200lx will "chime" in.

     Email if I can help further

     Good Luck

     Joe




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Author:  carman@dcn.davis.ca.us at mime
Date:    5/16/99 5:55 PM


Hello Joe:
I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you for doing this. I am a
happy camper. I downloaded all the IRDA drivers that were posted on SUPER. I
have a couple of more questions. Since there were several drivers I got them
all. Could you give me the name of the one that I should use, and also the
date and size of same. The only problem I still have is with my damn
printer, the HP LJ 5P I can't seem to get the simple instructions as to the
driver for the Infrared device. I have no driver to point to, I have the
original disk set for the printer. By the way, English is my second
language, so I might get a little excited and screw up the language. I am
Berliner originally, living in California. Anyway, If I could get just ask
you to help again with this printer situation, I would be so grateful. Best
Regards, Peter


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I have kicked my system to 48meg on the ram and in win95 there is a
difference (how much I don't remember).  As for a CD all you need is the
cable to connect to the back of the system (not the cheapest cable) and a
SCSI CD drive.  Yes there is a Recovery CD for the system and If memory
serves me right there is also a Floppy disk to get the system to see the CD
(I have done a recover once on the system and it was a very clean recover).

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Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:32 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Off Topic: OmniBook 800


After hearing it discussed on this list and looking at the specs I went
ahead
and purchased a used OmniBook 800. It came with 16Mb and 1.3 GB hard drive.
I
was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased
their
memory size, and what they thought it did for performance? Also, the unit
came
with no documentation or CDROM, but the seller took a credit card order, so
I
am pretty sure it is a legitimate sale. I know the reference book is built
in,
but did you receive a "Recovery CDROM" with yours? Knowing how stable
Windows
95 is, I am pretty sure that at some point I am going to have to reload.
When I
contacted the seller, he said that I would have to contact HP, but that
didn't
sound quite right, so I thought I'd tap the experience of other OB 800
owners.

I appreciate any feedback you might have.

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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Comments: To: jeffj@SCOTT.NET

Jeff,

Lotus 123 assumes numeric input is either raw numbers or part of a formula. You must explicitly tell 123 that the numbers are meant as a label. You do this by preceding the number by a text label character such as ' for left aligned, ¬ for centered, or " for right aligned.

You can sort using /data sort
You must define the range to sort (hint: create a range name and use that)
You must define the primary and secondary keys. In your case the inventory number would be the primary key.


All the steps above can be automated in a macro which can then invoked by a simple keystroke.

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I took mine to 80mb RAM right after I bought it....cuz I knew from experience
that 16mb is sparse when it comes to running Win95 (especially with multiple
apps), and the 64mb module wasn't too expensive anyway ($156).

I didn't bother to benchmark before and after the upgrade....you go for all the
RAM you can (64mb is the most you can add anyway)...no point in paying a grand
for a box for which you're always waiting for the hourglass.  With 80mb of RAM,
I can generally run at least 5 apps and swap between them with the kind of
response that I've gotten accustomed to on the LX.

Mine (and most others) came with 2.1gb drives (800CT) ...was yours an older
dual-scan model?  (800CS?)

I believe I have a recovery CD also, tho I haven't had the occasion to use it.
The documentation shows how to do the various upgrades (RAM, disk, etc) and I'm
not sure if that info is in the built-in references.

- Longden





Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM> on 05/17/99 07:32:09 AM

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Subject:  Off Topic: OmniBook 800




After hearing it discussed on this list and looking at the specs I went ahead
and purchased a used OmniBook 800. It came with 16Mb and 1.3 GB hard drive. I
was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased their
memory size, and what they thought it did for performance? Also, the unit came
with no documentation or CDROM, but the seller took a credit card order, so I
am pretty sure it is a legitimate sale. I know the reference book is built in,
but did you receive a "Recovery CDROM" with yours? Knowing how stable Windows
95 is, I am pretty sure that at some point I am going to have to reload. When I
contacted the seller, he said that I would have to contact HP, but that didn't
sound quite right, so I thought I'd tap the experience of other OB 800 owners.

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The Dayton Hamvention was pretty much the "same old-same old" this year
with one exception. I was walking through the fleamarket looking for
treasures and this one card table caught my eye. It was covered with
stacks of "2600" backissues. My first thought was, "Where did this
guy get all those backissues!?" and then I noticed the old, beatup
NYNEX van behind the table with "2600 Magazine: The Hacker Quarterly"
neatly stenciled on the side. I stepped back to observe and all at
once recognized the guy behind the table as Emmanuel Goldstein, the
publisher/editor. I introduced myself as a subscriber from w-a-y back. He
says, "Oh yeah! Even back when it came on 8-1/2 x 11?" "Sure enough!",
I said. "Well why don't you still subscribe?", he said. "No need. They're
in every Barnes & Noble now", I said. "I guess you're right", said he.

Unless you know about 2600, this will make no sense to you, but I
have almost all of them since around 1984. It's interesting to go back
and see how the computer/telephone underworld has changed along with
technology. The old issues were chock full of articles on how to make
blue/red/beige/white/green boxes and the newest issues have perl code to
launch a DOS attack or tidbits on how to hack a Nintendo or a Stairmaster.

Fun stuff.
--
Mitch
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I emailed him and got the very short version of this story. He had no
events listed on his site and was asking for submissions. I suggested
maybe, mmmmmm, what could it be now? THE HOOT!!! He was not familiar
with it. Go figure..

Anyway, the funniest thing on the site besides the helmetcam movie of
his squid buddy highsiding in the grass at Deal's Gap is the picture of
the 3 guys on one bike. He has captioned below that someone had emailed
complaining about the picture with the "3 balding homos" and one of them
was him. Why would you want to relate that? :)

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Whoops! Wrong mailing list. Ignore please. :)
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Al,

Thanks for the detailed answer.  You have given me some good leads.  Glad =
you got the 200LX talking to the YO-350.  Maybe the modem somehow establis=
hed some proper path or something (who knows). (G)  Anyway good that you =
got the electrons going in the right direction now.

$89 Ouch!  That's more than the organizer cost!  Well now I remember why =
I didn't persue it more. (G)  Maybe I can find it used.    =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 10:23:39 +0000
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Lotus 123 - same version as on the LX palmtops.  Nice to have the same version on the
desktop and palmtop - plus the manuals are very helpful.  $50 +shipping  or best offer.
Unopened full retail package.

Please respond offlist
Mail to:melancon@microgear.net
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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 11:25:04 EDT
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I have 2 of these with books and one connectivity pack complete. Both are
excellent condition and work great. I also have a lot of extra software for
them. If any one is interested E mail me. TX Roy

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On 05-17 09:55am CDT, the following was written:

> Unless you know about 2600, this will make no sense to you, but I
> have almost all of them since around 1984. It's interesting to go back

I have fond memories of 2600 magazine and my old Trash 80 Model I Level I
computer that I eventually upgraded to Level II..... I wish I still had that
machine! In those days, you didn't buy software, you came home from school
and spent hours on end writing tons of BASIC code, I'm still quite adept at
BASIC, it was a great learning experience. I really thought it was something
special when I got my 300bps accoustic modem for the old TRS-80 and when I
finally got a disk drive and didn't have to use tape anymore.... those were
the days <g>. I'm sure many of you have memories of older machines, but that
old TRS-80 realy taught me a lot and combined with 2600 magazine, I was
quite a hacker-wannabe..... <g>.

Jeff

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Sorry for the new model should have been Omnigo 100 but the you knew that.
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>
> Over the course of the years (I got the 200LX when it was first
> intoduced), I have never had a corrupted PDB file. I have rebooted
> with it open countless times.
>
> --
> Curtis

Curtis,

I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any longer
about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I have
moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier backups.
How many records do you have? I have 227. What other differences might there
be?

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 09:00:52 -0700
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              SALLY_COOPER@HP-CORVALLIS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
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Subject:      Re: Need more 1-2-3 help :(
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     Hi Jeff,

     Other posters have responded to your first 2 questions, I'll address
     #3.

     Because it ain't intuitive.  Those of us who learned 1-2-3 before the
     days of point and click the icon may have a small advantage, if we can
     remember, anyway.

     Thaddeus sells a nice little reference book for DOS and Lotus.  I
     don't use them often, but when I do they are helpful.  I recommend
     them.  You might also be able to get a cheap used copy of the software
     and so get manuals for it, though the Microref is probably easier to
     use.

     I have a similar set of records for an inventory of crafts and the
     supplies that each uses, and I use the database for it.  If you want
     to use the functions of a spreadsheet (SUM, ect) that won't work, but
     if it is a record you want, that application may be better for your
     purposes.  If you want to use the file on a desktop, Lotus may also be
     a better choice.  Windows versions of Lotus will open files from the
     Palmtop version.

     Sally


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Subject: Need more 1-2-3 help :(
Author:  Non-HP-jeffj (jeffj@SCOTT.net) at HP-CORVALLIS,mimegw01
Date:    05/17/1999 7:06 AM

<<and then let me ask some more questions:

3) Why can't I figure this out by myself? <g>... I'm usually pretty adept at
this stuff, but all the darn LX does is beep at me :(

If someone could please take me by the hand and guide me down the path I
would be extremely thankful!

Jeff
     >>>

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Wolfgang,

Glad I could help out a fellow palmtopper.   =3DBob=3D

=BB> thanks for assistance with the HP200LX keyboard, your tip worked out =
well!=AB

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Brian,

The 800CT will be much happier with 48 megs RAM.  Get a 32 meg module =
(less than $100).  It slips in on the bottom right under the space bar.

Yes, there should be a recovery CD.  Try and get one if you can.  If you =
need a CD ROM drive check at ebay.com (computers,notebook,omnibook) =
usually less than $100.     =3DBob=3D

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If it helps determine what is wrong with PDB files, mine is moved to a \phone
directory, is a highly modified database with lots of extra fields, and is 312
records long.  As I said, it gets screwed up with a out of memory error in the
note taker that only happens if I leave the PDB open in the background.

I also use Buddy, LLRAS, prompt, path, ABC, and moreexm within my autoexec
I have a double speed 5 meg 200LX and have the keybuffer upped to 128 in the
config.sys.


Dan Carrington




bob wrote:
>
> >
> > Over the course of the years (I got the 200LX when it was first
> > intoduced), I have never had a corrupted PDB file. I have rebooted
> > with it open countless times.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis
>
> Curtis,
>
> I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any longer
> about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I have
> moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier backups.
> How many records do you have? I have 227. What other differences might there
> be?
>
> Bob
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 18:31:53 GMT
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Hi friends,

does anyone know if there is a possibility to clean up the Appointment
book file?

I could imaginge two ways:

(1) take the used ADB and delete all old entries, except those which
are repeating

(2) open a new ADB and copy all the repeating items over to the new ADB

Both have to be automated. If someone would so this manually, he sits
doing this a few days... ;-)

I would prefer item (2), because I could archive the old file. So if I
want to search for an appointment that i had, say, a year ago, I ony
have to open the old file and search for it.


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 18:31:59 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends

> Since VR is not a TSR, I assume you are looking to write a different one which
> would behave like a TSR. Technically I believe it is feasible. It would just
> load either before WWW.EXE or on the first invocation from post.exe. I think
> that the idea is technically possible.

As Mike said before, our idea was more the following:
To make a TSR that sits between POST/LX and VR and manages the handling
of the messages to read.
Maybe the TSR simply 'presses' VR's keys. Perhaps that's very slow, but
I think that would be the simplest way to do it.

> One thing I am not excited about is having to shift the palmtop in my hand
> from horizontal to vertical position constantly - I think this will also make
> the idea somewhat less tasty :-)...

It's tasty for those people who do it like me:
I sit in the train or somewhere else waiting and want to read my lots
of email (most of it (abt. 95 %) from this list).
Only abt. 6-8 % will be answered by me, all the rest is only read.
So it would be good for me to simply press a key in VR that switches to
the next message. If I want to reply, I'd like to press another key
that leaves VR, switches back to POST/LX and starts the reply procedure.

Another way for less shifting the palmtop in hand would be this:
Only read all the messages and delete these ones which will not be replied
to by one key press in VR. All the not deleted messages can be replied to
if all other messages are already read.

>
> Gilles Kohl from Germany wrote VR. He may be able to provide some more
> technical insight.

That's a good clue: I will contact him regarding this idea.
Does someone know his email address or is he reading this list?

GILLES? Bist Du da irgendwo? ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 18:31:48 GMT
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Hi friends,

> I don't have a TI-85, but on the 48/200 issue let me say that IMO the
> 200 is a _lousy_ `calculator'. A _great_ machine, maybe, but if I
> really have some numerical calculations I want to do I tend to either
> upgrade to a machine where I can use APL or J or go to a `real'
> calculator like the 48. I find it much easier to key in the numbers
> and operations on a 48 keyboard than on the 200 keyboard.

A friend of mine has got a TI-89, which has a software built-in that's
very similar to Derive (It's made by SoftWarehouse, the guys who wrote
also Derive).
We compared many calculations: He used his TI-98 and I used my 200LX
with Derive 3.04.
Most of the calculations were faster on the TI, but only a little bit
faster. There were also some calculations (Fourier-developing (?) for
example) that were faster on my LX.
Maybe it's only my opinion, but I find it easier to enter the Derive
commands and formulas into the LX that into the TI (because of the
larger display, because of the availability of character-keys without
pressing a 'shift' key before and so on.)
For simple calculations (2+4=? ;-) ) the TI is _much_ better, because
you don't have to load a program first and enter the expression and
solve it. You just type in '2' '+' '4' '=' and have the result.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 11:54:52 -0700
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From: "Iden Rosenthal" <irosenthal@total1.net>
Subject: 95LX and Win98 and Connectivity Pack CPACK
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:39:52 -0400

If I try to run the APP95.EXE from the CPACk I get the following error:

System Resource Missing
App96 Cannot Run
Press ESC to Quit

Is there some trick I don't know or is Win98 incompatible with such an =
old
DOS prog?
I can use Hyperterminal to transfer data, but I'd rather save myself the
trouble of writing my own software to decode the appointment book and =
phone
book file formats since it has already been done for me.

Thanks In Advance




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From: ajithp@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Screen flicker - HP200LX screen pannel
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:14:22 GMT

Hi,

I have a screen flicker pannel.

Pls advice where I can purchase a HP200LX screen pannel.

Thanks

Ajith
ajith@india.sun.com


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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 14:53:23 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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I'm not sure I understand the reason for this question.  Isn't that what you
get with File|Remove Items?  When you select the "Save Removed Items in
Archive" checkbox, you can create an .ADB file with just the old entries.

My calendars are done just this way.  Every year I start anew by archiving
the previous year's contents and then just rename the current .ADB file to
match this year.

On the c:\drive I keep older files with names like 1998_APT.ADB,
1997_APT.ADB, etc.

Alan Striegel

>does anyone know if there is a possibility to clean up the Appointment
>book file?
>...
>(1) take the used ADB and delete all old entries, except those which
>are repeating

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 11:49:54 -0700
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Last week I finally experienced the worst death of my 200LX 5MB doublespeed.
The "Battery Low" message came up on my LX, so I exited all applications (I
always do that just to prevent possible corruption -- or maybe I'm just
plain superstitious). I then removed the batteries and replaced them with
batteries I had recharged with an alkaline charger. I then tried to turn on
my machine, but nothing happened. No beep, nothing. (keep in mind I have a
brand new backup battery). So quickly I changed the old batteries for a set
of brand new alkalines, and tried to turn the machine on, bu nothing
happened. So finally, I pressed CTRL-SHIFT-ON, and saw -- with a sinking
heart -- the LX reset itself without asking me wether to reset the RAM drive
or not.

Arg!

Well, I've been doing monthly backups, but I'll increase that to once a
week.

Anyone had that happen to them before?

Thanks,

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Hi Hal,

> <<I'd love to check out 7.07 (I was part of the beta, too, and
> I believe I got it, but perhaps not used it?)>>
>
> No, 7.07 came out after the original beta although I thot I send it to
> you.

Well, it turns out you did. But Carousel gives you no indication who it is
beyond 7.00. Ed sent to me the size and I have it. This is what I have been
using for a loooong time, also to demonstrate how to break files... :(

> Ed Keefe, if you are listening, (or anyone else) could you send Avi the
> 7.07 carousel.pgm file.  (I am on the road, it's a long story, but
> because of my setup + connection problems it would be a hassle to send
> it-- and I don't think I will be able to logon on for a few more days).

HAL::::::: PLEASE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't send me anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please do not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I get 250 emails a day and i do not need more, I need less!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't volunteer and don't volunteer others to fill my mailbox with more
stuff I already have. A simple question can resolve a lot of unneeded garbage
in my mailbox.

> It doesn't sound like you have 7.07.

I think that is precisely what I have based on what Ed Keefe said about the
size.

Hal, no need to get excited: I am not attacking the product, I am trying to
make people understand how their computers are vulnerable and how with some
simple precautions they can easily avoid 95% of the troubles. This is a USAGE
issue on the palmtop, not a software issue. No software can eliminate all
possibilities of troubles, and I am hoping no one gets that message from any
of the posts we write here.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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** Reply to note from Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> 05/17/99 11:49am -0700

No but I have had to do a hard reset when I changed batteries with
rechargeables selected in setup. But it never reformatted the ram drive.

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Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX AND Calculators vs. 200LX

This is so true. When someone says the 200LX makes a lousy calculator it's probably
because they need it to add 2+2. When it comes to the real math the 200LX does it
well!!!


>
> A friend of mine has got a TI-89, which has a software built-in that's
> very similar to Derive (It's made by SoftWarehouse, the guys who wrote
> also Derive).
> We compared many calculations: He used his TI-98 and I used my 200LX
> with Derive 3.04.
> Most of the calculations were faster on the TI, but only a little bit
> faster. There were also some calculations (Fourier-developing (?) for
> example) that were faster on my LX.
> Maybe it's only my opinion, but I find it easier to enter the Derive
> commands and formulas into the LX that into the TI (because of the
> larger display, because of the availability of character-keys without
> pressing a 'shift' key before and so on.)
> For simple calculations (2+4=? ;-) ) the TI is _much_ better, because
> you don't have to load a program first and enter the expression and
> solve it. You just type in '2' '+' '4' '=' and have the result.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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> Germany
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Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX AND Calculators vs. 200LX
Comments: To: Jim Harden <james.harden@ey.com>

Jim Harden writes:
> I've chunked a couple of CE products and gone back to the 200LX solely because of the math functions.
> I love the Solver, the statistical graphing, etc.
>
> Also, can anyone help me find a Bond Calculator for my HP200LX?
> Is there any software???? (preferably freeware)

There's a bond calculator on the Thaddeus CD-ROM. They also discuss
bond calculations using the business calculator on it.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 08:24:37 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

If you use Outlook check
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/Visto45.htm
for a possible secure online storage of files/info.

Is there any need for online storage in the group?  I have had my palmtop
crash while travelling b4. No contacts till I returned home. An online
backup would have been excellent.

Any comments?

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 17:46:21 +0200
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>
> Is there any need for online storage in the group?  I have had my palmtop
> crash while travelling b4. No contacts till I returned home. An online
> backup would have been excellent.
>

Get a flash card and put your contacts on both the flash card and the 200.
You might loose one but you won't loose both.

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 22:51:35 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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I posted the recommendation, a couple of days ago, to drop the
Buffers statement from the Config.Sys file thinking that would
free up all memory used by the buffers and that they probably
weren't needed by the 200LX since it uses ram disk(s).

Several of you questioned and/or corrected my advise so I
decided to look it up.  I'm using the "Disk Operating System
User's Guide and Reference" for IBM DOS v5.00.  (I doubt there's
any significant difference between IBM DOS and the MS DOS in ROM
when it comes to the subject of buffers.)

First, removing the Buffers command didn't do what I thought it
did as DOS uses a default number based on the size of storage.
For storage between 512k-640k the default is 15 buffers.  This
is probably why I didn't notice any/much difference by dropping
it from my Config.Sys.

Elsewhere in the book it states the recommemded buffers size for
disks of various sizes is...

20 ...    <40 MB
30 ... 40- 79 MB
40 ... 80-119 MB
50 ...   >120 MB

Each buffer uses 532 bytes and more than 50 probably won't give
any performance benefit while also reducing storage available to
your programs.

The bigger the disk and/or the more complicated the directory
structure the more buffers you probably want (up to a max of
about 50).

So I've restored the LX's default of Buffers=20 for my 4M 200LX
and I appologize for my misleading suggestion.  If I ever
upgrade to a 64MB version I'll even increase that to 30.
Big flash cards may warrant even higher values.

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 17:02:07 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 1:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Carrying the 200LX AND Calculators vs. 200LX
... snip ...
> For simple calculations (2+4=? ;-) ) the TI is _much_ better, because
> you don't have to load a program first and enter the expression and
> solve it. You just type in '2' '+' '4' '=' and have the result.

  Daniel, maybe I'm missing something here, but when I want to add two
numbers together on the 200LX, I can't imagine wasting time with Derive or
1-2-3.  How about comparing apples to apples?  Fire up the calculator app
(one keystroke, takes about 1/10th of a second to boot) and press
"2<enter>4<+>".  How is a TI calculator "_much_ better" than that??  (Does
the TI in question support RPN?  If it doesn't, IMHO, that alone would make
the 200LX the _much_ better simple calculator.)

  For basic arithmetic operations I haven't found a calculator better than
the one built into the 200LX.  (Although, I will admit the case+keyboards on
the old HP21, 25, and 29c made for _much_ better one-handed calculators...
And the symbolic/list functions in the HP48 would be nice to have...)

        ... JLS

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 19:01:11 -0400
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Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

> I thought the 1000CX simply lacked the bundled apps. - what
> is the case difference between a 100LX and a 200LX?

The size and shape of the 100LX and 200LX cases are identical.
 The only difference is the color.  The 100LX is black while
the 200Lx is a dark green.


Stan

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The Business Letter, Instant Publisher, Designer on a disk) and manual. (5
1/4 and 3 1/2" disks).  $15.00

Sidekick by Borland version 1.0 with Manual. (5 1/4" disk). $10.00
Sidekick by Borland version 1.0 with Manual. (5 1/4" disk). $10.00
Sidekick by Borland version 2.0 with Manuals. (3 1/2" disks). $15.00

The American Heritage Dictionary electronic version-Definitions Plus (Still
in shrink wrap!) By WordScience Corporation with manual. (115,000 words,
needs 2.3MB disk space, runs as 4K TSR or standalone.) (3 1/2" disks).
$40.00

Random House Webster's Electronic Dictionary & Thesaurus College Edition
from WordPerfect Corporation with manual (180,000 words, needs 5.6MB disk
space.)
(3 1/2" disks). $35.00

ZEOS Microsoft windows 3.0 disks only. (5 1/4" disks). $10.00

SuperStor Data Compression Software 2.0 complete set with manual.
(5 1/4 and 3 1/2" disks). $10.00

Microsoft Works 2.0 for DOS includes a word processor with spell
check/thesaurus and a database program, with manual. (3 1/2" disks). $15.00

Brown Bag Software Word Processor includes spell checker with manual.
(5 1/4 and 3 1/2" disks).  $10.00

Sequential Software Icon Utilities 3.01 Label Maker that can use Print Shop
graphics if desired. (3 1/2" disk). $10.00

Springboard Certificate Maker with manual. (5 1/4" disks). $10.00

On Time Lifetime Appointment Calendar/Planner with manual. (5 1/4 and 3 1/2"
disks). $10.00

Inset Systems HiJaak graphics conversion and screen capture version 2.1 with
manuals. (5 1/4 and 3 1/2" disks). $15.00

Keynotes Associated Press Stylebook. Guides to word usage,  punctuation,
capitalization, and abbreviation plus sections on sports, business and
computers. With manual. (5 1/4  disks). $10.00

Word Perfect 5.1 for DOS Original 12 disks and WordPerfect Workbook book
only.
(5 1/4" disks).$10.00

Right Writer the intelligent Grammar Checker for the PC Version 4.0 (5 1/4"
disk).$5.00

Central Point Software PC Tools version 4.5 (5 1/4" disk).$5.00

Easy Working from Spinnaker-The Writer Word Processor. (5 1/4" disks).
$10.00
Easy Working from Spinnaker-Personal Cash Manager. (5 1/4" disks). $10.00
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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 01:07:26 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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>         Knows someone if exists any DOS command (or little program) to check
> the batteries ?? It will be very useful for me. I know that in

Look at LXPRO in the SUPER site.  Battery voltages is one of
it's several functions.

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 22:01:22 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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What is the largest size spreadsheet you can load w/ the 200lx?
Is there a way to increase the size?

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Thanks to everyone that offered me help with 1-2-3 today, your tips and
tricks were just what I needed. I also especially wanted to pubically thank
Longden Loo for taking me by the hand and walking me through several
different things today. This is the first time that I have ever used 1-2-3
on the LX and I can't believe how darn powerful it is! I have used
spreadsheets on desktop machines in the past, but had no idea that 1-2-3 on
the LX was just as powerful. I have chastised myself for doubting the LX....
it won't happen again!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 23:02:25 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 17 May 1999 22:48:27 -0400 (EDT)

14h35m14s ago ...
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get todo.exm, LE (Logexpress), ME
> (MemoExpress) and lhe.exe?  Those programs are mentioned in the Finder.t=
xt
> of X-Finder

Don't know about todo.exm
LE and ME are at:
        http://www.vector.co.jp/common/dos/util/machine/hp
They need fonts from the commercial JKIT package, though.
There's a file called lhe102.lzh at:
        http://www.vector.co.jp/common/dos/util/arc/lha
I think that's probably the one...

> Furthermore I don't get working Memo as Editor in X-Finder (German
> Palmtop) and the Zip/Unzip-funkion (I use Pkunzip and changed the
> programname in Finder.env, but this does not help)

Try this for MEMO:

%e=09,b800=09,240r||memo

and change to this in the "execution by matched extension" section.

.zip=09,k=09,pkunzip -v %c
         ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
also you could try changing the other lines under .zip to:
=09,200+lt=09,pkunzip %c -d %m
=09,200+ck=09,pkunzip %c -t
These will unzip to the directory across the screen with ÝShift¨ÝEnter¨
and test the archive with ÝCtrl¨ÝEnter¨.

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 03:09:00 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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bob wrote:

>I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any =
longer
>about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I =
have
>moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier =
backups.
>How many records do you have? I have 227. What other differences might =
there
>be?

I almost always have the following open:
Phone: highly modified format, over 1000 records
DataBase: plain phone format file, about 300 records
Appointment: of course
Buddy

And frequently have NoteTaker open with a very customized form, with
lots of info in the Note of each, usually about 150 records. Filer is
always closed (closed all the way).=20

All these files are in the C:\_DAT directory. Your special
subdirectory isn't on a flash card, is it? I wouldn't do this out of
fear of corruption, which I've heard can happen if the battery can't
supply enough instantaneous current to tunnel those little electrons
into the oxide.

I also have a 10 MB flash card, and have an appointment automatically
copy the *.?db files to it every 3 days. I run Everready rechargeable
batteries.

--=20
Curtis

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 03:12:56 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Brian McIlvaine wrote:

>I
>was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased =
their
>memory size, and what they thought it did for performance?

Until January, I had 32 MB in my OB 800 running NT. Then I loaded
Outlook 98. It was absolutely unuseable with that amount of memory.
With every mouse click, it seemed to be swapping all 32 MB to disk. I
upgraded to 80 MB, and it now has acceptable performance.

--=20
Curtis

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 11:31:47 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Comments: To: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Steve, where can I get your programs from?

Cheers!

Anand.


At 12:07 PM 14-05-1999 Friday -0400, you wrote:
>Longden Loo
>
>> You can't.  This has always been one of my pet peeves and perhaps my
>greatest
>> incentive to program something for the LX.  It desperately needs a simple
>> program that will check the integrity of a given database.  GUI and
>fixing the
>> problems would be nice touches, but detection is the immediate need.
>------------------------------
>Ed Keefe
>
>> I used a program FCHECK.ZIP by Andreas Garzotto=
>
>> That computes a checksum of all the files on the C: drive.
>------------------------------
>  I wrote two small, simple programs if someone needs
>something to do file integrity/change detection.
>Both do a checksum and a CRC of the file.  CRC-DIR
>works on one directory.  CRC-TREE does an entire drive.
>Wrote more as an introduction to traversing directory
>trees and then modified to read all the files and do
>the CRC.
>
>Steve
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 22:47:12 -0500
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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There's been a lot of talk about corrupting and preventing corrupted files.
Don't discount the amount of current required to save to flash cards.  I was
corrupting .pdb, .gdb and even .ndb files saved to a flash card due to low
batteries.  I've since began changing batteries at a minimum of 2.5 volts
(thanks Avi) and I haven't corrupted a file (any file) since.
Les

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 00:43:35 -0400
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Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Didn't someone, long ago and far away in another forum, research this
> pretty thoroughly and come to the conclusion that the optimum buffer count
> is buffers=6?

I seem to remember a test like that, but don't remember the
conclusion.  I have my buffers set to 20 because there was a
weird effect with one particular function of acCIS working
slower with less buffers.


Stan

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Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> wrote:

> The last conversation I had with the APEX rep
> was he felt the LX was powering down the PCMCIA port, which was probably
> causing my problems

The palmtop cannot power down the PCMCIA port.  So it is not
that that is causing your troubles.  Also, pulling the modem
out of the slot is no different from turning off the palmtop.
When the palmtop is off, the modem is always off also.  You
can't get any more of a reset than the power down.

> I do not have my StarTac working correctly with APEX 33.6 Mobile
> Plus Cellular modem. I basically gave up on that ... when I
> use POST/LX to try to dial out, I usually get an error message that there
> is no dial tone.  So I go into the Comm program in system manager and
> try to dial a number, and it will usually give me the same message.  How
> I end up getting the LX to dial out is shut off the LX, take out the
> modem, unplug the modem cable from the modem & the phone, and then put
> them all back together, then try again.  I usually have to do this
> several times, and then with some unpredictable pattern, it will let me
> dial out.  Then I quickly hurry and exit the Comm program, and go into
> POST/LX and dial out without any problems

I have the same modem and have a little bit of trouble with a
different Motorola phone and the error baout no dial tone.
When the moem reports that error, then it is not in cellular
mode.  You have to make sure the modem is in cel mode.

Do you have an &F2 as the init string?  This should force the
modem into cel mode.  But I have found that does not really do
much.  The modem is supposed to put itself into cel mode
automatically when it sees the cable.  Also, you need to make
sure the cel phone is in analog mode (unless it is
analog-only).

I have found the following sequence to work.  with everything
powered off, connect the modem to the cel phone.  Put the
modem into the palmtop and turn on the power.  Then turn on
the cel phone a few seconds later.  After the cel phone is
ready, put it into analog mode (if needed) and then try to
make the connection.  Sometimes I will still get the "No Dial
Tone" message, but usually only once.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 14:34:42 +1000
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              Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
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I had similar probs a while back. If you are packing your adapter and moving
to different work spots, eventually the wires in the adapter will break
giving erratic performance. (someone else commented on this problem on this
list).

Just a tip. I bought a Chinese manufactured adapter called GO rated at
1000ma - enough to drive a PC modem card - from Tandy Electronics approx $40
Australian. Tandy offer a 3 year extended warranty for $10. They will change
a defective unit, no questions asked. Your adapter will "break" long before
the 3 year mark if you are continually bending the wires, as in packing the
adapter into a bag for transport. It's well worth the extra $10 - I just
replaced mine the other week.

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 23:19:42 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Russell Hemery writes:
>
> Is there any need for online storage in the group?  I have had my palmtop
> crash while travelling b4. No contacts till I returned home. An online
> backup would have been excellent.
>
> Any comments?

Here's a repost of a message I wrote a while back:


X-Mailer: Palmtop News Reader - Version 0.0
Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:19:18 GMT
From: Theodore Heise <theise@netins.net>
Subject:      Backup strategies for upgraded 200LX

Okay gang, I've had my 32M speed-doubled 200LX for about a
year now.  My backup strategy has been to use the HP CPACK
with a serial cable and my desktop.  It has worked well and
I'm quite satisfied with it.

It has occurred to me that if my data were wiped out while
I was traveling, all of my contact information would be
unavailable until I returned home.  I have devised a
solution that will provide emergency backup on the road.

What I did was to zip up all the bare necessities Ý*¨ into
a tidy package and uploaded it to my ISP.  Even if my data gets
entirely wiped out, I can fire up DataCom, download that file
(along with unzip.exe, of course), and be back up and running.

I also took the precaution of writing my ISP's 800 number on
a piece of tape inside my battery cover.  I keep all of that
information stored in my LX, but of course in an emergency
I wouldn't be able to get to it.

Ted


Ý*¨ appt.adb, phone.pdb, QFax, TT/LX, HP Alarm, autoexec.bat,
    config.sys, and all drivers made a file just under 250kb.


--
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> happened. So finally, I pressed CTRL-SHIFT-ON, and saw -- with a =
sinking
> heart -- the LX reset itself without asking me wether to reset the RAM =
drive
> Anyone had that happen to them before?

Yup, a couple of times although it's mostly been a combination of dodgy
DOS software and flat batteries (the toy has been a lot more stable now
I'm not trying out new software or playing around with programmin)

> Well, I've been doing monthly backups, but I'll increase that to once a
> week.

Litany of a palmtop user.  Back-up, Back-up, Back-up.

A useful thing I do is run a backup each night. This isn't as bad as it
sounds.
The monthly/weekly backup simply resets all the A flags, and the
nightly backup simply backs-up any files which have changed since the
last major backup.  So when the worst happens you simply restore the
last major backup and then copy over changed files.
Simpleminded but it has saved my bacon a number of times (assumes you
have a flash card of course).

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 22:13:59 -0700
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I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to prevent wiping of
the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.  Not only does
it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory upgrades have
proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up the palmtop so
badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant "Initializing RAM drive"
message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still there, good as new.

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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 22:59:33 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I have upgraded to 80MB. From about 24MB on up is optimum for W95. I have the thing
configured identical to my desktop. With all the software I have loaded (Norton
System Works 2.0 is a big chunk when idle), my desktop is noticable slower on 32MB
than 64MB. Get the most your budget will allow.

I have the 166MMX model. There is a recovery CDROM plus W95 Companion which is W95
with the setup disabled. Works very well. I have reloaded several times for
testing. The machine itself seems as stable as any W95 can be. There is a floppy
disk that goes along with the CD. I believe the drivers are available on the HP web
site if you use a generic W95 CD. All of these disks should come with the unit.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> After hearing it discussed on this list and looking at the specs I went ahead
> and purchased a used OmniBook 800. It came with 16Mb and 1.3 GB hard drive. I
> was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased their
> memory size, and what they thought it did for performance? Also, the unit came
> with no documentation or CDROM, but the seller took a credit card order, so I
> am pretty sure it is a legitimate sale. I know the reference book is built in,
> but did you receive a "Recovery CDROM" with yours? Knowing how stable Windows
> 95 is, I am pretty sure that at some point I am going to have to reload. When I
> contacted the seller, he said that I would have to contact HP, but that didn't
> sound quite right, so I thought I'd tap the experience of other OB 800 owners.
>
> I appreciate any feedback you might have.
>
> Brian
>
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>         Knows someone if exists any DOS command (or little program) to
check
> the batteries ?? It will be very useful for me. I know that in

Get my CLKLX or CHARGE on Super. These are really *tiny* programs.

CLKLX is a TSR clock which constantly displays the battery voltage
(updated once a minute) and time.

CHARGE has among other things BAT which tells you the state of the
battery and the settings of the LX.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 14:26:47 +0800
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Is the 32MB drive designated by a different drive number(e.g. d:)?
In that case is it beyond the reach of rogue programs that can corrupt
contents of the c: drive?


At 10:13 PM 17-05-1999 Monday -0700, David Sargeant wrote:
>I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to prevent wiping of
>the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.  Not only does
>it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory upgrades have
>proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up the palmtop so
>badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant "Initializing RAM drive"
>message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
>initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
>happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still there, good as new.
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 May 1999 23:33:28 -0700
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>$89 Ouch!  That's more than the organizer cost!  Well now I remember why I
didn't persue it more. (G)  >Maybe I can find it used.

The value of the backup software isn't  related to the organizer...it's
there to protect the data that's in it!  The question to ask is: "how
important is the information IN the organizer?"  ;-)

Keep checking Ebay; there's a slew of organizers available on there; maybe
you'll find one with the backup software, and get a spare organizer to boot!

Good luck,

Al

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>Looks like you're becoming obsessive-compulsive about this tool. Welcome to
>the group.<g>
>I hesitate to add to your OCD, but have you been over to the SUPER site yet?

Yep, already been there; lots of cool stuff there...but there are only so
many hours in a day, and I gotta go to work once in awhile too!   8¬(

After your last post, I became inspired and read some more of the manual
(when all else fails...!); I decided to try plugging in the pcmcia modem
card after reading about them in the 200 manual.  Realizing it's a power
hog, I also plugged in the power adapter.  Lo & behold, I was able to
transfer files without a hitch.  At first I thought it was the modem card
that needed to be plugged in, however after more experimenting,  I
discovered it was the power from the ac adapter the 200 was after.  I even
tried using fresh alkalines (3.1 volts at the batt terminals) but no dice.
As soon as I plugged in the AC power, however,  it worked like a dream.  So
I'm  not sure what is wrong (any ideas?), but it appears that to do file
transfers with the YO-350, I'll have to have external power available.
That's ok, since I can live with that, however I hope all serial operations
not involving a pc do not need external power, or I'll be in trouble when I
want to set it up to work with my packet radio controller, which works from
the serial port (I'm an amateur radio op...KQ7X).

Anyway, that's the end of that story; thanks for the additional information
and thoughts; I'll file them away for future reference.  BTW, your
reference ( I THINK it was yours, anyway) to the F1015A as a null modem
cable is helpful to know, since the packet radio controller wants to see a
straight cable from the RS232 port, and I likely wouldn't have known that
if you hadn't mentioned it.  Hopefully a null modem adapter will make the
cable appear to be straight through though.

Al



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Curtis:

> Over the course of the years (I got the 200LX when it was first
> intoduced), I have never had a corrupted PDB file. I have rebooted
> with it open countless times.

Agreed. The only effect is to lose the in-memory index, and it takes a bit
more time to open the file next time, while the palmtop rebuilds the index.

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> If it helps determine what is wrong with PDB files, mine is moved to a \phone
> directory, is a highly modified database with lots of extra fields, and is 312
> records long.  As I said, it gets screwed up with a out of memory error in the
> note taker that only happens if I leave the PDB open in the background.

I modified mine extensively too. I also moved it to the flash card. 1300 or so
entries.

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dan,

> The only time I have ever corrupted a PDB is by leaving it open, going into note
> taker and entering a note with F3.  This sometimes gives me a lack of memory
> error (there is plenty available) and shows me garbage in the note, I can exit
> the note and if I wish exit the note taker without trouble.  However, the PDB
> that was open in the background is ruined.

Very interesting effect. I have never seen this before. The fact that you run
out of memory may be a significant factor here, but I am not sure even this
would cause the PDB to corrupt. Definitely weird. I believe that in your case
the databases are somehow cross-linked.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 00:33:04 -0700
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Les,

> There's been a lot of talk about corrupting and preventing corrupted files.
> Don't discount the amount of current required to save to flash cards.  I was
> corrupting .pdb, .gdb and even .ndb files saved to a flash card due to low
> batteries.  I've since began changing batteries at a minimum of 2.5 volts
> (thanks Avi) and I haven't corrupted a file (any file) since.

There is Tip #3 for the "safe practices" compilation! Keep enough current on
hand (stowed in the batteries) to complete writes. The 5 extra minutes one can
squeeze from dragging the battery voltage just a bit lower usually get eaten
up by several hours of restoration of a corrupted file! Not worth the $ 0.0158
or whatever the savings may be. Not with my data!

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Bob,

> I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any longer
> about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I have
> moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier backups.
> How many records do you have? I have 227. What other differences might there
> be?

My files are on the Flash card, because, contrary to Curtis, I worry about the
C: drive getting munched up and requiring a coldboot. On the flash I have
little problems with that.

As to current: I use NIMH batteries and these have a great capacity to dip a
bit lower and come up with a little more current. I also tend to stop using my
palmtop --- TURN IT OFF, when I am caught with very low battery.

I get cringes when the battery is at 2.38 or 2.39 for more than three minutes.

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Bob,

> I disagree. Phone Book is more susceptible to coruption than other
> databases. I have verified (many times) that a re-boot with an open
> phone book will corrupt the phone book database.

I think you ascribe supernatural powers to phonebooks vs. other databases.
Databases (GDBs) and PDBs are essentially the same. To say that phonebooks are
more susceptible than GDBs is at best voodoo :) ... Really.

Try this: Close your phonebook. In filer, copy the phonebook to something
called phontst.GDB --- note the suffix. Now open your phontst.gdb is DATABASE
application, and use it for a week instead of the regualr phonebook. You may
find now that the GDB gets corrupted often! Why? Because there is something
that you do which is unhelathy to that database (I believe I named such
practices "unnatural acts" :) ...)

I have a 1300 item phone book which I open and close and use probably 100
times a day, and last time it corrupted was when I did something idiotic to
the palmtop - about 4 months ago. Otherwise, ZERO problems. With one or two
exceptions, EVERY SINGLE corruption to my phonebook is my own doing, an
"unnatural acts" of some sort: Forsing the book open in two WAs in SC, pulling
batteries out while the book was closing, bla bla... But on its own it never
jumps to its death!

> A reboot with an open database or notebook will usualy NOT corrupt.
>
> This is an easy thing to verify.
>
> Make a backup of all you files.
> Open them.
> Re-boot (I don't know if there is any difference between a hard boot and
> a soft boot)
> Try to reopen your files.
> You will most likely find that pdb has corrupted and tha the others have
> not.

I just di this 5 times in a row! No problems. I VERIFIED that your theory does
not hold much water... Sorry.

Oh, I was so confident that I did not even make a backup!!!

The difference between a cold boot and a warm boot is first of all in what you
press. Secondly, in a cold boot you get to reinitialise your C: ddrive if you
reply YES to the question about it.

Also, in a cold boot you almost always lose your date, and in a warm boot only
sometimes. (Two of my reboots trying out your theory were cold boots, BTW - no
difference in results.)

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Phillippe:

> Last week I finally experienced the worst death of my 200LX 5MB doublespeed.
> The "Battery Low" message came up on my LX, so I exited all applications (I
> always do that just to prevent possible corruption -- or maybe I'm just
> plain superstitious). I then removed the batteries and replaced them with

That was the moment of truth, my friend. Batteries low. So you close the
databases. You should know this: When you close the databases, the palmtop
takes the index which was kept in memory and writes it out to the file on
disk. I.e. you used A LOT OF CURRENT just when you should not have.

The prudent action: Use the ON button to turn off the palmtop. Put it in your
pocket and don't use it until you get to an adapter!!!

The OPEN file is SAFE on disk! If you lose the palmtop's memory, your file on
disk is safe, and usable!!! When you open it, the palmtop will notice lack of
index information (which is removed from the file when it is opened and the
index part is kept in memory) and rebuild it from the data on the physical
file on the disk. So it will take longer to open.

Close the phonebook. Look at it in Filer on disk - say 100K. Now open the
phonebook and go back to filer to look at the file size - 80K or whatever. It
shrank! Why? The index information was removed and copied into memory. Why?
Faster processing. But the updates are written to the phonebook file on disk.
Now if something happens to the palmtop - suddenly the batteries die -- the
data on disk is sufficient to rebuild the index.

Last: Close the phonebook and go check its size again - back to the larger
number, maybe even higher by a few bytes... The index was rewritten into the
file when you closed phonebook app.

So when your battery dies, use the on button to turn off the palmtop and don't
use it until you get close to power source.

It is even a good idea to pull the flash card out, since even with palmtops
off, the flash cards draw a bit of current.

> batteries I had recharged with an alkaline charger. I then tried to turn on
> my machine, but nothing happened. No beep, nothing. (keep in mind I have a

Sure, the batteries were wiped out by the CLOSING - requiring a lot of WRITES!

> brand new backup battery). So quickly I changed the old batteries for a set
> of brand new alkalines, and tried to turn the machine on, bu nothing
> happened. So finally, I pressed CTRL-SHIFT-ON, and saw -- with a sinking
> heart -- the LX reset itself without asking me wether to reset the RAM drive
> or not.

Yep! You did the opposite of what you should have done. I bet you'll never do
it again, now that you understand what happened.

Anand - here is one tip for "safe practices": When the batteries are very low,
turn off the machine, but don't bother closing the databases!

> Well, I've been doing monthly backups, but I'll increase that to once a
> week.

Here is a second "safe practice" tip!!!

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There is a secondary buffer too. You can free up some bytes, if you include in Config.sys the command:

buffers=20,0

The 0 after the comma is the secondary buffer. I think, it is only used by some special applications and doesn't affect the speed of the LX.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 00:32:55 -0700
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Daniel,

> > Since VR is not a TSR, I assume you are looking to write a different one which
> > would behave like a TSR. Technically I believe it is feasible. It would just
> > load either before WWW.EXE or on the first invocation from post.exe. I think
> > that the idea is technically possible.
>
> As Mike said before, our idea was more the following:
> To make a TSR that sits between POST/LX and VR and manages the handling
> of the messages to read.
> Maybe the TSR simply 'presses' VR's keys. Perhaps that's very slow, but
> I think that would be the simplest way to do it.

Ok, that means even more memory taken up. Well, I am not excited about that
because you hardly have room now, you'll have less later... But go for it. If
it works, great addition!

> That's a good clue: I will contact him regarding this idea.
> Does someone know his email address or is he reading this list?

AFAIK he does not read this list, but I am not 100% sure.

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Please E-mail me privately if you
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Avi, You have a large PDB file on the flash card. How does it affect the
speed of operation? Referring to data should be no problem speedwise, but
how about adding new data? I find that with my PDB on the c: drive with
half the number of records it takes several seconds sometimes for the
hourglass to disappear.

With the PDB file in the c:drive, do you close the application after each
use as some have suggested or do you keep it open throughout the day?

Tx.

Anand.

At 12:32 AM 18-05-1999 Tuesday -0700, A Meshar wrote:
>> If it helps determine what is wrong with PDB files, mine is moved to a
\phone
>> directory, is a highly modified database with lots of extra fields, and is
>312
>> records long.  As I said, it gets screwed up with a out of memory error in
>the
>> note taker that only happens if I leave the PDB open in the background.
>
>I modified mine extensively too. I also moved it to the flash card. 1300 or so
>entries.
>
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On supernew is a new file called PTPINDEX.ZIP, which contains
the file PTP.FDB. Sounds like a database format, but cannot be
opened with the built in database. What kind of format is FDB?

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Two question regarding printer drivers:

1.
Are there anywhere additional printer drivers for the LX? In the configuration program is the possibility to save printer driver files as *.pcf. But I couldn't find any driver on the web.

2.
Is there a tool to write printer drivers?

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 14:17:52 +0100
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Subject:      Re: X-Finder - todo.exm / lhe.exe / LE / ME
Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@earthlink.net>
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Hi Quinton,

thanks for Your answer. I will forget ME and LE, I don't want to have=20
additional japanese fonts <g>.
I was looking after the LHE.EXE, because the japanese guy wrote in=20
finder.txt that it's quicker than lha.exe. I already use lha.exe, so it=20
was only a matter of testing. Concerning Todo.exm I found something at=20
< http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~honda/HP200LX1.html >, the following is cutted=
=20
and pasted from there:

*** u2-D ToDo Board on LXv=C6=B5=C4=B3=AE=F6J=B3=EA=DC=B5=BD=F4=20
=FC=E8=E6=A8NIFTYSERVE:FHPPC:Lib7-896:TODO21  .LZH 2-D ToDo Board 2.1 ***

but it has no use for me, I'm not good enough in japanese <g> and have no
access to NIFTYSERVE, maybe one of our japanese Palmtop-Companions can
help us.=20

I'm using Version R.9 of X-Finder (really great program, but a bit=20
hard to configure ;-))

Your recommended settings for pkzip/pkunzip work fine, thanks. Peniel=20
(Romanelli) (hi Peniel!) was so kind to give me also help concerning=20
pkzip/pkunzip. As You can read in the list his recommended options differ=
=20
slightly, I will try to find out what all that options and switches mean=20
to compare.

The editor setting does not work so smooth, memo is now starting, but
empty, not with the chosed file as content. Memo starts and opens
automatically the Menu "Format" with the checkbox for "Textformat", where Y=
ou
can chose the options bold + underlined. I don't know where this is=20
or can be defined, maybe it has to do with my german-language-palmtop.

Do You know a solution for this?=20

Cheers & thanks, Axel

**********************************
Axel KLAG DW-tv / HF-Studio Berlin
Mailto: klag@dwelle.de
Phone : +49(0)30-4646 7020
Fax   : +49(0)30-4646 7025

On Mon, 17 May 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> On Mon, 17 May 1999 12:13:00 +0100, Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE> wrote:
>=20
> > Does anyone know where I can get todo.exm, LE (Logexpress), ME
> > (MemoExpress) and lhe.exe?  Those programs are mentioned in the Finder.=
txt
> > of X-Finder
>=20
> After over (2) months of searching the web, I was unable to find
> todo.exm. (:-)
>=20
> But LE (Logexpress), ME (MemoExpress) can be found at:
> http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/
>=20
> LE is a cross between Filer &  List. LE can be used as your viewer but
> requires (2) additional Japanese fonts.=20
>=20
> ME also requires (2) additional Japanese fonts. The version thats
> available on the Web is a trial and has hince expired. So it not worth
> the download.=20
>=20
> If remember correctly LHA serves the same purpose as lhe.exe, the
> X-finder's Doc mentioned some thing about renaming one or the other.
>=20
> So LHA is really what you need, it can be download from SimTel. =20
>   =20
> > Furthermore I don't get working Memo as Editor in X-Finder (German
> > Palmtop) .
>=20
> What version of X-Finder are you running? Version R.8 had a problem with
> Memo as the editor. So if your useing X-Finder R.8 , download the newer
> version R.9 from the SUPER Site.
>  =20
> I use Memo as my editor and here is the line used:
>=20
> #Editor setting (me, vz, mini, PalEdit, flexpad, ted etc)
> %e      ,b800    ,240r||me=20
>=20
> > and the Zip/Unzip-funkion (I use Pkunzip and changed the
> > programname in Finder.env, but this does not help)
> =20
> -Peniel came up with a fix for this one, below are his recommended
> change needed in for your finder.env:
>=20
> #Execution by matched file extension
>=20
> .zip    ,k      ,pkunzip -v %c                 =20
>         ,200+lt ,pkunzip %c -d %t\%x;$p %t\%x
>         ,200+lc ,pkunzip %c -d %m
>=20
>=20
> also below is another change that needs be made:
>=20
> #Decompress from .zip
> %r      ,200+l  ,pkunzip
>=20
> #Add to .zip
> %q      ,200+l  ,pkzip                    #160+l
> =20
>=20
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Qman...                            =20
>                                   =20
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> What is the largest size spreadsheet you can load w/ the 200lx?
> Is there a way to increase the size?

I *think* I've done this in the past by specifying additional EMS memory,
but you have to have a driver installed to simulate the memory.  It's been
a long time, and my memory is fuzzy.  Maybe this will spark the memory
cells of someone who's done it more recently...

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 08:56:09 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> On supernew is a new file called PTPINDEX.ZIP, which contains
> the file PTP.FDB. Sounds like a database format, but cannot be
> opened with the built in database. What kind of format is FDB?

The description states:

"Also includes a FFDB version of the information"

FFDB is a freeform database by Brian McIlvaine also on SUPER:

http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/ffdb.zip
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I think it's Free form Database (not free in fact),
it's a shareware.
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-
redir.pl/ffdb.zip?dbname=ffdb.zip&URL=http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/ffdb.zip
regards
Alain
> On supernew is a new file called PTPINDEX.ZIP, which contains
> the file PTP.FDB. Sounds like a database format, but cannot be
> opened with the built in database. What kind of format is FDB?
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You'll definatley want to add memory.  16MB performance is hideous.  I'd add at
least 32MB.  As to the the recovery CD, I can burn you a copy.

Wayne

Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> After hearing it discussed on this list and looking at the specs I went ahead
> and purchased a used OmniBook 800. It came with 16Mb and 1.3 GB hard drive. I
> was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased their
> memory size, and what they thought it did for performance? Also, the unit came
> with no documentation or CDROM, but the seller took a credit card order, so I
> am pretty sure it is a legitimate sale. I know the reference book is built in,
> but did you receive a "Recovery CDROM" with yours? Knowing how stable Windows
> 95 is, I am pretty sure that at some point I am going to have to reload. When I
> contacted the seller, he said that I would have to contact HP, but that didn't
> sound quite right, so I thought I'd tap the experience of other OB 800 owners.
>
> I appreciate any feedback you might have.
>
> Brian
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On 18 May 99, at 14:17, Axel Klag wrote:



> *** u2-D ToDo Board on LXv=C6=B5=C4=B3=AE=F6J=B3=EA=DC=B5=BD=F4
> =FC=E8=E6=A8NIFTYSERVE:FHPPC:Lib7-896:TODO21  .LZH 2-D ToDo Board 2.1 **=
*
>

Try http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm

Regards

Antonio
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Antonio Queiroz e Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes

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I never heard of a palmtop crash which corrupted a flash disk (except while
writing to disk on low battery, so I change batteries before saving at the
first sign of low battery), so why not store the information on the C: drive
and back it up to flash?  I have had trouble when accesing directly from
flash, so that's why I do it like this with the built in applications.
Also, I rename all data files from the built in names, because I have had
the applications recreate the data files, thus destroying the data!   Also,
I always test new software on the desktop first, plus I have a macro that
closes everything before I reboot.  No trouble so far in almost a year.

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From:    "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>

>   Daniel, maybe I'm missing something here, but when I want to add two
> numbers together on the 200LX, I can't imagine wasting time with Derive or
> 1-2-3.  How about comparing apples to apples?  Fire up the calculator app
> (one keystroke, takes about 1/10th of a second to boot) and press
> "2<enter>4<+>".  How is a TI calculator "_much_ better" than that??  (Does
> the TI in question support RPN?  If it doesn't, IMHO, that alone would make
> the 200LX the _much_ better simple calculator.)

>   For basic arithmetic operations I haven't found a calculator better than
> the one built into the 200LX.  (Although, I will admit the case+keyboards on
> the old HP21, 25, and 29c made for _much_ better one-handed calculators...
> And the symbolic/list functions in the HP48 would be nice to have...)

>         ... JLS

------------------------------
Hi all,

     Does anyone have a macro to implement a "Y¬X"
(Y to the X power) function on the 200LX?  The very
first time I wanted to use the calculator was to do
that.  The only thing bad about RPN is that once you
learn it, you forget how to use the ubiquitous alge-
braic calculators.

Steve

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I used to have a Sharp IQ800, with a similar PC connectivity pack.  When I
tried to use it with a battery-powered pocket modem it would not play.
Eventually I discovered that the organizer powers it's own serial port from
the other end, to save it's own (lithium cell) batteries.   As the pocket
modem assumed a similar thing, e.g. it would be used on a laptop with more
power than it had, the required power levels were not available on the right
pins (don't ask me which).

Connecting through a pin-out analyser which had the ability to supply power
to the interface proved this.  Basically there was no way I could do what I
wanted.

Now I could believe the same of the HP, i.e. it has no plans to export power
to the 'partner' on the serial link, because it too is trying to save on
battery usage.  All I can suggest is that on whatever you are linking the OL
cable and HP cable with, see if you can provide external +5v to whichever
pins are specified to have power.

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Chris, if you've done this before then you'd likely be running the full desktop
version of 123 on your LX...or using some other spreadsheet.

The 123 on the palmtop has had that feature disabled (see
/WorksheetGlobalDefaultOtherExpanded-memory )...even if you have the available
EMS memory, the built-in can't see or use it.

The built-in spreadsheet is 8192 rows x 256 columns, but how much of that you
can fill depends on what you fill it with.  Usually you'll fall well  short of
the total number of cells.

Loading the 2.3/2.4 desktop version would be the only way I know of doing
better....or as I said getting some other EMS capable spreadsheet.

Built-in 123 is good enough for 95% of my needs, and I have Framework for
anything else (an integrated spreadsheet/wordprocessor).

A good project for someone who's really 123 literate with lots of time <g>,
would be to see if only one or a few components of desktop 123 can be loaded in
order to take advantage of EMS (vs the whole install).  My guess is that this
can't be done, since the system files would then be in 2 areas (ROM and
RAM)...but you never know.

- Longden





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> What is the largest size spreadsheet you can load w/ the 200lx?
> Is there a way to increase the size?

I *think* I've done this in the past by specifying additional EMS memory,
but you have to have a driver installed to simulate the memory.  It's been
a long time, and my memory is fuzzy.  Maybe this will spark the memory
cells of someone who's done it more recently...

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Open the HP CALC application and enter x¬y<enter> where x=any number and
y=any number.  The "¬" key is a <shift><quicken> key.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Novosad ÝSMTP:Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM¨
>
> Hi all,
>
>      Does anyone have a macro to implement a "Y¬X"
> (Y to the X power) function on the 200LX?
>
> Steve
>

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1999-05-18-13:41:31 Steve Novosad:
>      Does anyone have a macro to implement a "Y¬X"
> (Y to the X power) function on the 200LX?

In the calculator, how about using the "¬" key, shift-memo. So if you wanted
e.g. 96¬8, type

        9 6 enter 8 ¬

-Bennett

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On Tue, 18 May 1999, Anand Rao wrote:

> Is the 32MB drive designated by a different drive number(e.g. d:)?
> In that case is it beyond the reach of rogue programs that can corrupt
> contents of the c: drive?

It is originally designated as F:, and then Mack has a driver that swaps
it to C:.  The data on the drive can still be corrupted while the drive is
accessible, of course, so backups are still necessary.  The 32/64MB drives
are not the end-all way to avoid data loss due to corruption-- only a good
policy of regular backups can do that.  They are, however, the end-all way
to avoid having your palmtop wipe out your C: drive in an involuntary
"Initializing RAM drive."

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Accounting methods and needs probably haven't changed much in the last 15 years,
so you figure that the premier spreadsheet of days gone by probably has most of
the necessary features, albeit buried under a different interface.

The 123 spreadsheet implements a design concept that's mirrored throughout the
LX (a natural considering Lotus was responsible for much of the app developement
and integration).... and that is a general tendency to go for speed of execution
(ie reduced keystrokes) vs ease of use.

To re-phrase a quote about DOS from Owen Samuelson (who stole it from the source
below):

"This was the formal spreadsheet of a PC USER. Not as clumsy or random as Excel.
More skill than simple sight was required for its use. An elegant spreadsheet.
It was a symbol as well. Anyone can use Excel or Quattro Pro  - but to use 123
as well was a mark of someone a cut above the rest"

original quote from the Movie book :
"This was the formal weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a
blaster. More skill than simple sight was required for its use. An elegant
weapon. It was a symbol as well. Anyone can use a blaster or fusioncutter - but
to use a lightsaber as well was a mark of someone a cut above the rest"
Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars

- Longden (sorry, I couldn't resist)






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Thanks to everyone that offered me help with 1-2-3 today, your tips and
tricks were just what I needed. I also especially wanted to pubically thank
Longden Loo for taking me by the hand and walking me through several
different things today. This is the first time that I have ever used 1-2-3
on the LX and I can't believe how darn powerful it is! I have used
spreadsheets on desktop machines in the past, but had no idea that 1-2-3 on
the LX was just as powerful. I have chastised myself for doubting the LX....
it won't happen again!

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On Tue, 18 May 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> It is even a good idea to pull the flash card out, since even with
> palmtops off, the flash cards draw a bit of current.

I thought that no cards could draw any current from the port when the
palmtop was off, unless the palmtop is malfunctioning.

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Russ:

Thanks for looking up the stuff on BUFFERS= ... I upped my specification to
buffers=50 from 20. I cannot say the palmtop runs faster, but I bet it is
happier! :-)

Thanks for taking the time and posting the good info for all of us.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 09:13:48 -0700
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Anand,

> Is the 32MB drive designated by a different drive number(e.g. d:)?
> In that case is it beyond the reach of rogue programs that can corrupt
> contents of the c: drive?

I am not following your line of thought. D: drive is always the ROM. With some
upgraded memory machines, the initial C: drive is renamed F: or G:, and the 32
or 64MB extra memory/storage becomes drive C:.

D:, the ROM, is never susceptible to any rogue programs, unless they can
re-etch the ROM on the fly :-) ...

The other drives are all susceptible to rogue programs.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 09:13:37 -0700
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David,

> I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to prevent wiping of
> the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.  Not only does
> it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory upgrades have
> proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up the palmtop so
> badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant "Initializing RAM drive"
> message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
> initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
> happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still there, good as new.

Your second point is completely correct, what will be initialized is the F:
drive on the palmtop in a 32/64 setup.

But: Having myself been the beneficiary of a 32MB that did not corrupt when
the power was out of the machine, let me point out to you that you should not
count on this!!! Mack is DEFINITELY not recommending reliance on the board to
retain content for any length of time. If you do, great! Next time place a
special "Thank you" prayer to whoever you pray to. (If you do not pray, maybe
one or two of these may convince you about miracles! :) ...)

I just want to point out to everyone that despite the anecdotal experience
here from many many people (me included) of a high survival rate of the 32/64
boards, DO NOT COUNT ON IT! IOW, it is a counter*safe practice to rely on the
boards to retain the data. We are trying to help people along build some safe
practices, and this isn't one.

Anyway, I feel blessed that my board kept its data when it happened to me. But
I no longer rely on it.

One week ago I upgraded my machines to 64MB and had several chances to witness
this "miracle" to not take place. So folks, you are on your own - rely on the
32/64 mb board to keep data, and you will kick your own butt! Will it
sometimes do so? Sure - but no one knows when yes, and when not! :)

Taking chances with your data is not a safe practice.

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On Tue, 18 May 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> One week ago I upgraded my machines to 64MB and had several chances to
> witness this "miracle" to not take place. So folks, you are on your
> own - rely on the 32/64 mb board to keep data, and you will kick your
> own butt! Will it sometimes do so? Sure - but no one knows when yes,
> and when not! :)

Could you detail the circumstances in which it does not work?

And, as I point out in another message, this method is certainly no
substitute for regular archived backups.  There's just no substitute for
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Hi All:

     It seems everytime I have to recover from a major c:\ crash (one
calling for init. RAM), I loose my Buddy registration? Can someone who
has there registration handy privatly Send me the registration
procedure(I have my password, etc...I just can't remember the procedure
for entering them). Curious though, when I looked at my Buddy Config,
the s/n was still there, but I couldn't load BuddyDOS, when I rebooted,
s/n was gone? I assumed s/n was written to the .env file, is there a
hidden file that I need to backup? I have a 32MB machine, and that
partition was left intact as near as I can tell...I'm puzzled?

TIA & Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 12:32:02 -0400
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>To re-phrase a quote about DOS from Owen Samuelson (who stole it from the
source
>below):
>
>"This was the formal spreadsheet of a PC USER. Not as clumsy or random as
Excel.
>More skill than simple sight was required for its use. An elegant
spreadsheet.
>It was a symbol as well. Anyone can use Excel or Quattro Pro  - but to use
123
>as well was a mark of someone a cut above the rest"
>
>original quote from the Movie book :
>"This was the formal weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a
>blaster. More skill than simple sight was required for its use. An elegant
>weapon. It was a symbol as well. Anyone can use a blaster or fusioncutter
- but
>to use a lightsaber as well was a mark of someone a cut above the rest"
>Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars
>
>- Longden (sorry, I couldn't resist)

Is that where that came from?   It must have been a long time ago, in a
galaxy far far away. :)
Owen

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Hi Again!

     All this talk about BUFFERS, brought to mind the STACKs command.
The only time I have ever had a Stack Overflow was when I tried to run
QFax. I tried adding a STACKS command to CONFIG.SYS (probably 9,512),
but it didn't help. Russ?, anyone? sugestions on STACK allocation?

TIA & Cheers,

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Buddy stores its info in a special location called, I think, xbram and not in any env or other file.  It is a memory location.  I believe abc/lx does similar.

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Well, Avi, accepting your challenge, I went after my 200lx. But, how are we going
to explain this:

I made backups of pdb and gdb
closed everything
opened phone and database
warm booted

Voila, phone.pdb would not even load. I got the message "file does not exist"
I attempted to open it by, "pointing" to the phone.pdb, pressed enter... "file
does not exist"
No problem, I have my backup, so attempted to open it.... "file does not exist"
Now, getting a little concerned, I tried to open d:\_dat\phone.pdb... "file does
not exist"
I next copied d:\_dat\phone.pdb into my working c:subdirectory... "file does not
exist"
finally in complete frustration, I renamed the phone.env
this then worked, but somewhere along the way my backup got corrupted and had to
restore from last weeks..

(By the way, gdb came up immediately as if nothing had ever happened!!)


A Meshar wrote:

> Bob,
>
> > I disagree. Phone Book is more susceptible to coruption than other
> > databases. I have verified (many times) that a re-boot with an open
> > phone book will corrupt the phone book database.
>
> I think you ascribe supernatural powers to phonebooks vs. other databases.
> Databases (GDBs) and PDBs are essentially the same. To say that phonebooks are
> more susceptible than GDBs is at best voodoo :) ... Really.
>
> Try this: Close your phonebook. In filer, copy the phonebook to something
> called phontst.GDB --- note the suffix. Now open your phontst.gdb is DATABASE
> application, and use it for a week instead of the regualr phonebook. You may
> find now that the GDB gets corrupted often! Why? Because there is something
> that you do which is unhelathy to that database (I believe I named such
> practices "unnatural acts" :) ...)
>
> I have a 1300 item phone book which I open and close and use probably 100
> times a day, and last time it corrupted was when I did something idiotic to
> the palmtop - about 4 months ago. Otherwise, ZERO problems. With one or two
> exceptions, EVERY SINGLE corruption to my phonebook is my own doing, an
> "unnatural acts" of some sort: Forsing the book open in two WAs in SC, pulling
> batteries out while the book was closing, bla bla... But on its own it never
> jumps to its death!
>
> > A reboot with an open database or notebook will usualy NOT corrupt.
> >
> > This is an easy thing to verify.
> >
> > Make a backup of all you files.
> > Open them.
> > Re-boot (I don't know if there is any difference between a hard boot and
> > a soft boot)
> > Try to reopen your files.
> > You will most likely find that pdb has corrupted and tha the others have
> > not.
>
> I just di this 5 times in a row! No problems. I VERIFIED that your theory does
> not hold much water... Sorry.
>
> Oh, I was so confident that I did not even make a backup!!!
>
> The difference between a cold boot and a warm boot is first of all in what you
> press. Secondly, in a cold boot you get to reinitialise your C: ddrive if you
> reply YES to the question about it.
>
> Also, in a cold boot you almost always lose your date, and in a warm boot only
> sometimes. (Two of my reboots trying out your theory were cold boots, BTW - no
> difference in results.)
>
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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 13:23:59 -0400
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It's worth a few buks to buy a 20MB flash card and back up the 32MB
partition with pkzip et al. I use an old SUNdisk/IBM thinkpadfile card for
this. You could probably get them cheap 2nd hand. It's alos good to get a
card reader for the PC. These can be had for < $100 and makes backup and
file transfer really easy.

>
> David,
>
> > I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to
> prevent wiping of
> > the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.
> Not only does
> > it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory
> upgrades have
> > proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up
> the palmtop so
> > badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant
> "Initializing RAM drive"
> > message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
> > initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
> > happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still
> there, good as new.
>
> Your second point is completely correct, what will be
> initialized is the F:
> drive on the palmtop in a 32/64 setup.
>
> But: Having myself been the beneficiary of a 32MB that did
> not corrupt when
> the power was out of the machine, let me point out to you
> that you should not
> count on this!!! Mack is DEFINITELY not recommending reliance
> on the board to
> retain content for any length of time. If you do, great! Next
> time place a
> special "Thank you" prayer to whoever you pray to. (If you do
> not pray, maybe
> one or two of these may convince you about miracles! :) ...)

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 13:42:13 -0400
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40->48 mb cards have also come down in price and are not much above
$100, and make it possible to backup 32mg without even zipping.
As you indicate, backup this way is _much_ less painful than using
any file transfer program. XCOPY seems to do the job just fine...

Ed Padin wrote:
>
> It's worth a few buks to buy a 20MB flash card and back up the 32MB
> partition with pkzip et al. I use an old SUNdisk/IBM thinkpadfile card for
> this. You could probably get them cheap 2nd hand. It's alos good to get a
> card reader for the PC. These can be had for < $100 and makes backup and
> file transfer really easy.
>
> >
> > David,
> >
> > > I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to
> > prevent wiping of
> > > the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.
> > Not only does
> > > it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory
> > upgrades have
> > > proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up
> > the palmtop so
> > > badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant
> > "Initializing RAM drive"
> > > message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
> > > initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
> > > happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still
> > there, good as new.
> >
> > Your second point is completely correct, what will be
> > initialized is the F:
> > drive on the palmtop in a 32/64 setup.
> >
> > But: Having myself been the beneficiary of a 32MB that did
> > not corrupt when
> > the power was out of the machine, let me point out to you
> > that you should not
> > count on this!!! Mack is DEFINITELY not recommending reliance
> > on the board to
> > retain content for any length of time. If you do, great! Next
> > time place a
> > special "Thank you" prayer to whoever you pray to. (If you do
> > not pray, maybe
> > one or two of these may convince you about miracles! :) ...)
>
> snip
>
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I've seen this happen before. Corruption always manifests itself in one of
two ways:

1. I try to open a note and I run out of memory (this seems to start the
corruption) and get garbage as a result.
2. I try to find phone entries by typing the first few letters of the entry.
If I hit a corrupted record, this seems to make things worse.

Philippe :-)

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> dan,
>
> > The only time I have ever corrupted a PDB is by leaving it open, going
into note
> > taker and entering a note with F3.  This sometimes gives me a lack of
memory
> > error (there is plenty available) and shows me garbage in the note, I
can exit
> > the note and if I wish exit the note taker without trouble.  However,
the PDB
> > that was open in the background is ruined.
>
> Very interesting effect. I have never seen this before. The fact that you
run
> out of memory may be a significant factor here, but I am not sure even
this
> would cause the PDB to corrupt. Definitely weird. I believe that in your
case
> the databases are somehow cross-linked.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
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Curtis,

How do you bypass buddy's password screen when the automatic backup happens?

Thanks,

Philippe

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bob wrote:

>I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any longer
>about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I have
>moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier backups.
>How many records do you have? I have 227. What other differences might
there
>be?

I almost always have the following open:
Phone: highly modified format, over 1000 records
DataBase: plain phone format file, about 300 records
Appointment: of course
Buddy

And frequently have NoteTaker open with a very customized form, with
lots of info in the Note of each, usually about 150 records. Filer is
always closed (closed all the way).

All these files are in the C:\_DAT directory. Your special
subdirectory isn't on a flash card, is it? I wouldn't do this out of
fear of corruption, which I've heard can happen if the battery can't
supply enough instantaneous current to tunnel those little electrons
into the oxide.

I also have a 10 MB flash card, and have an appointment automatically
copy the *.?db files to it every 3 days. I run Everready rechargeable
batteries.

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Thanks Avi, those were great tips! I'm happy that my suffering and cold
sweat will help others!

I've noticed that my new doublespeed 5MB machine's battery life is *much*
lower than before. I used to be able to get 30h out of my duracells, but now
it's down to barely 5-6 hours. Is that normal? Anyone?

Thanks again!

Philippe :-)

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> Phillippe:
>
> > Last week I finally experienced the worst death of my 200LX 5MB
doublespeed.
> > The "Battery Low" message came up on my LX, so I exited all applications
(I
> > always do that just to prevent possible corruption -- or maybe I'm just
> > plain superstitious). I then removed the batteries and replaced them
with
>
> That was the moment of truth, my friend. Batteries low. So you close the
> databases. You should know this: When you close the databases, the palmtop
> takes the index which was kept in memory and writes it out to the file on
> disk. I.e. you used A LOT OF CURRENT just when you should not have.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 13:52:46 -0400
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I don't recall where I got this notion, but I thought that the RAM cards I
used always drew power from the palmtop's batteries or A/C adapter when they
were inserted, whether the palmtop was on or not.  Their internal lithium
cells were supposed to be only for when they were removed.

Alan Striegel

From: David Sargeant
>...
>I thought that no cards could draw any current from the port when the
>palmtop was off, unless the palmtop is malfunctioning.

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Subject:      x-finder long filenames in zip archive

I've been trying to add long file names to zip archives. I know that it
needs to see a file _.xfn with hidden attribs in a directory. Is this also
true of zip archives? How do i get it to automatically add the file to the
zip archive? it seems to want to run pkzip when I add along file name but
it's not succesfull.

X-finder is a neat little program but a pain to configure...

Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 11:06:05 -0700
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On Tue, 18 May 1999, Striegel, Alan wrote:

> I don't recall where I got this notion, but I thought that the RAM
> cards I used always drew power from the palmtop's batteries or A/C
> adapter when they were inserted, whether the palmtop was on or not.
> Their internal lithium cells were supposed to be only for when they
> were removed.

In a correctly-functioning palmtop, no power at all is present at the
PCMCIA port when the palmtop is turned off.  Unless your palmtop is really
severely broken, your SRAM card will not know the difference between being
in the socket of a turned-off palmtop, and being in your hand.  It will be
drawing power from the lithium battery in either case.

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Hi Steve,

>      Does anyone have a macro to implement a "Y¬X"
> (Y to the X power) function on the 200LX?  The very
> first time I wanted to use the calculator was to do
> that.  The only thing bad about RPN is that once you
> learn it, you forget how to use the ubiquitous alge-
> braic calculators.

I have one key labelled "square root x" on my german keyboard.
Outside of the calculator it is the "y"-key. I am using RPN and
the strange thing is that the "square root"-key does not
calculate the square root but x¬y. If I enter <3> <Enter> <2>
<Square root> I get 9 as the result. So to really get the square
root I have to enter <x> <Enter> <0.5> <Square Root>.

Reinhard


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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 11:22:43 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Whether you choose to XCOPY or PKZIP (compress) depends on your mixture of
files.

People should try both to see which works better for them.  At least in regards
to speed, the time lost in doing compression may be compensated by the faster
time to transfer a smaller number of bytes to the card.   There are various
tradeoffs for both methods.

- Longden





David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> on 05/18/99 10:42:13 AM

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40->48 mb cards have also come down in price and are not much above
$100, and make it possible to backup 32mg without even zipping.
As you indicate, backup this way is _much_ less painful than using
any file transfer program. XCOPY seems to do the job just fine...

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 11:29:51 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 18 May 1999 23:05:10 +10, Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU> wrote:

> I think it's Free form Database (not free in fact),
> it's a shareware.

The form factor of the Database is free form as in "no set way of
entering data", the program that runs the data file is shareware.

I included the ptp.fdb, because FFDB is what I use.

I like the quick search functions of FFDB and the displayed results.
Plus FFDB is only a $10.00 program, and that helps support a fellow list
members efforts in the palmtop community.

The text files can be used as-is with WhereIs as your search engine or
imported into what ever format you choose (database, notetaker etc.).


Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 14:46:16 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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You might find some useful hints as to what you need for STACKS in the PC
Tutor column from PC Magazine's Nov. 22, 1994 issue, titled "The Stacks
Command Revisited".  I couldn't find it on their website, since they only
list archives back to 1995, but I have it and the utility program for
testing on my web page at: http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/

Alan Striegel

>From: Al Kind
>...
>     All this talk about BUFFERS, brought to mind the STACKs command.
>The only time I have ever had a Stack Overflow was when I tried to run
>QFax. I tried adding a STACKS command to CONFIG.SYS (probably 9,512),
>but it didn't help. Russ?, anyone? sugestions on STACK allocation?

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I was unable to find the answer to this question with a cursory search, so
I'm asking here...

Is there some sort of formula for the (US) federal withholding tax and the
FICA tax on my paycheck?  I've got a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet that keeps
track of my hours and tells me the gross amount of my weekly paycheck, but
I'd like to have it calculate the tax that will be withheld as well so I
know how much my take-home pay will be.  If it's some kind of bizarre
lookup table, I'm probably out of luck, I would guess, but if there's a
simple formula it would be nice...

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I think that federal withholding uses tax brackets whereby the percentage
withheld is determined by the gross total up to a maximum bracket. FICA is a
fixed percentage up to a ceiling amount. Once that amount is reached you no
longer are required to pay FICA for that tax year. Most companies try tp
make the FICA payments level for those who may reach the ceiling amount.

I assume you live in a state with no income taxes... you lucky dawg.

Are there any CPA's out there who can make sense of my gibberish?

>
> I was unable to find the answer to this question with a
> cursory search, so
> I'm asking here...
>
> Is there some sort of formula for the (US) federal
> withholding tax and the
> FICA tax on my paycheck?  I've got a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet
> that keeps
> track of my hours and tells me the gross amount of my weekly
> paycheck, but
> I'd like to have it calculate the tax that will be withheld
> as well so I
> know how much my take-home pay will be.  If it's some kind of bizarre
> lookup table, I'm probably out of luck, I would guess, but if
> there's a
> simple formula it would be nice...
>
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On Tue, 18 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I think that federal withholding uses tax brackets whereby the
> percentage withheld is determined by the gross total up to a maximum
> bracket. FICA is a fixed percentage up to a ceiling amount. Once that
> amount is reached you no longer are required to pay FICA for that tax
> year. Most companies try tp make the FICA payments level for those who
> may reach the ceiling amount.

I don't think I make enough money to worry about the ceiling amount for
FICA (isn't it somewhere over $50,000?), and I'm in the 15% tax
bracket for federal income tax.  So this brings up another question... if
I can find a table of values, and I put it in a spreadsheet called, say,
TAX.WK1, would it be possible to look up which value to use from another
spreadsheet?  Or would I have to have it in the same file?

> I assume you live in a state with no income taxes... you lucky dawg.

That's Nevada for you.  The casinos pay taxes so we citizens don't have
to.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 21:36:39 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Reinhard Mueller wrote:
> I have one key labelled "square root x" on my german keyboard.
> Outside of the calculator it is the "y"-key. I am using RPN and
> the strange thing is that the "square root"-key does not
> calculate the square root but x¬y.

I would call that a bug, and a funny one! On the American keyboard, the
key labelled with "square root x" is the 'Z' key. That one actually
computes the square root. Th 'Y' key can be used instead of '¬'. I
guess they did that because it only requires ony keystroke and is just
below the '¬'.

I bet you get the square root when you use the 'Z' key as the 'Y' and
'Z' keys are exchanged on the german keyboard.

Andreas

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              Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@AECOM.YU.EDU>
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Dear List,

I have a couple of old ACE 14.4K modems, however the cord (?is dongle the
correct technical term?) has a very flimsy plug which was broken.  Of
course, the vendor is no longer around. Does anyone know of potential
replacements?

Thanks,


Lionel

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 14:29:56 -0500
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              Chuck Sutherland <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>
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Both my wife and I have HP200LXs.  We BOTH have had corruption in Phone
Book...of individual records and occassionally the entire phone database.
This is usually associated with an occurance of low battery warnings.  I
speculate that the problem is somehow associated with power fluctuations.
Any thoughts?
Chuck Sutherland

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 15:56:08 -0400
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>>> On supernew is a new file called PTPINDEX.ZIP, which contains
> the file PTP.FDB.

I d/ld the PTPINDEX.ZIP file. Opened it to discover not an INDEX but a
collection of Table of Contents in ASCII format. Granted this is worthwhi=
le
but it's not what I or my dictionary would call an INDEX. I propose a nam=
e
change for the file: PTP-TOC.ZIP. The FDB format is nice as long as you
have the appropriate software. My hat is off to Brian McIlvaine. =


.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 12:58:41 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 18 May 1999 13:59:12 -0400, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:

> I've been trying to add long file names to zip archives. I know that it
> needs to see a file _.xfn with hidden attribs in a directory. Is this =
also
> true of zip archives? How do i get it to automatically add the file to =
the
> zip archive? it seems to want to run pkzip when I add along file name =
but
> it's not succesfull.

The X-Finder doc says the the ._xfn in a archive should be in
uncompressed format. Simply copying an _.xfn file to an archive within
X-Finder will automaticlly add it in uncompressed format.

So it would safe to say when archiving a file leave the _.xfn out on the
first pass the copy it in later.

HTH

Regards,

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 22:04:31 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi Andreas,

> > I have one key labelled "square root x" on my german
keyboard.
> > Outside of the calculator it is the "y"-key. I am using RPN and
> > the strange thing is that the "square root"-key does not
> > calculate the square root but x¬y.
>
> I would call that a bug, and a funny one! On the American keyboard, the
> key labelled with "square root x" is the 'Z' key. That one actually
> computes the square root. Th 'Y' key can be used instead of '¬'. I
> guess they did that because it only requires ony keystroke and is just
> below the '¬'.
>

After some testing I finally found out that Buddy is the
problem. When I disable Buddy I get the square root, else I get
x¬y. Unfortunately there is no german version of Buddy, is
there?

Reinhard


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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 16:24:49 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Is there any need for online storage in the group?  I have had my palmtop
> crash while travelling b4. No contacts till I returned home. An online
> backup would have been excellent.

Check out:
www.mydocsonline.com

It offers 20MB of on-line storage per person, in exchange for your e-mail
adddress (no doubt so they can e-mail you advertising). Convenient functions
include passworded login, quick upload/download, delete, send (to another user),
and a DOS-like directory listing of your stored files.

Best of all, because I have an ISP that allows Web access via a UNIX shell to
Lynx, all on the server side, I can get at my goodies with plain old built-in
Datacomm!

Bruce in Toronto
Go Leafs!

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 16:29:01 -0400
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> Is there some sort of formula for the (US) federal
> withholding tax and the FICA tax on my paycheck?  If it's some kind of
bizarre
> lookup table, I'm probably out of luck.

Lotus 1-2-3 can handle this: look up @HLOOKUP, @VLOOKUP or @INDEX.  You'd=

probably need to keep a running total of your income so that the formula
would yield $0.0 for FICA when you've reached the max.  I had something
like this working for FICA and my pension plan years ago. Eventually the
college where I worked computerized its payroll and I quit using the
spreadsheet. =


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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Thank you, Alan,

that was exactly what I wanted to do.
Haven't seen this menu item before...!

GtX
daniel

> I'm not sure I understand the reason for this question.  Isn't that what you
> get with File|Remove Items?  When you select the "Save Removed Items in
> Archive" checkbox, you can create an .ADB file with just the old entries.

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Date:         Tue, 18 May 1999 16:54:37 -0400
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Tue, 18 May 1999 16:45:47 -0400 (EDT)

02h46m35s ago ...
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I've been trying to add long file names to zip archives. I know that it
> needs to see a file _.xfn with hidden attribs in a directory.

The _.xfn doesn't need a "hidden" attribute - XF treats it as hidden
automatically.

> Is this also
> true of zip archives? How do i get it to automatically add the file to =
the
> zip archive? it seems to want to run pkzip when I add along file name =
but
> it's not succesfull.

Hmmm this works for me just the same as adding long filenames to files
in a directory.  Hit comma (,) - fill in the name in the box, and
ÝEnter¨.  That's it.  Works for me.

If this doesn't work, I could send my settings for PKZip...

HTH

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Comments: To: Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>

If you use the KeyM program from the SUPER site, you can close Filer to get
a little more space... ...but not much.


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From: Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:56 PM
Subject: Lotus 123


What is the largest size spreadsheet you can load w/ the 200lx?
Is there a way to increase the size?

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> collection of Table of Contents in ASCII format. Granted this is worthwhile
> but it's not what I or my dictionary would call an INDEX. I propose a name

Hmmmm, maybe some I/O wizard can quickly convert the collection of text files
into an NDB:

Volume#Issue# as Title
Contents as Note
Year as Category

Just a thought...

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Hi Bob,

> Well, Avi, accepting your challenge, I went after my 200lx. But, how are we going
> to explain this:
>
> I made backups of pdb and gdb
> closed everything
> opened phone and database
> warm booted

Except for the backup I did what you did, some of my reboots were cold boots.

> Voila, phone.pdb would not even load. I got the message "file does not exist"
> I attempted to open it by, "pointing" to the phone.pdb, pressed enter... "file
> does not exist"
> No problem, I have my backup, so attempted to open it.... "file does not exist"
> Now, getting a little concerned, I tried to open d:\_dat\phone.pdb... "file does
> not exist"
> I next copied d:\_dat\phone.pdb into my working c:subdirectory... "file does not
> exist"
> finally in complete frustration, I renamed the phone.env
> this then worked, but somewhere along the way my backup got corrupted and had to
> restore from last weeks..

Well, you have a whole "nother" class of problem. Seems to me you have a
corrupted -disk_ not a corrupted _file_. If your system cannot find a file to
open, yet you can point to it it at once sees it and does not see it - see my
point about corrupted disk?

> (By the way, gdb came up immediately as if nothing had ever happened!!)

Could be. When you have corrupted disk all bets are off and all results are
completely unpredictable.

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> There is a secondary buffer too. You can free up some bytes,
> if you include in Config.sys the command:
>
> buffers=20,0
>
> The 0 after the comma is the secondary buffer. I think, it is
> only used by some special applications and doesn't affect the
> speed of the LX.

I just tried adding the ",0" to my buffers statement, rebooted,
and it didn't make any difference to the amount of free storage
reported by MEM.

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I'm sorry  -  temporarily skipped my mind that D: is already taken by the ROM!

Is it possible to retain the initial C: drive as C:, and rename the
additional 32/64 MB as F: or G:?

Anand.

At 12:13 AM 19-05-99 Wednesday , A Meshar wrote:
>Anand,
>
>> Is the 32MB drive designated by a different drive number(e.g. d:)?
>> In that case is it beyond the reach of rogue programs that can corrupt
>> contents of the c: drive?
>
>I am not following your line of thought. D: drive is always the ROM. With some
>upgraded memory machines, the initial C: drive is renamed F: or G:, and the 32
>or 64MB extra memory/storage becomes drive C:.
>
>D:, the ROM, is never susceptible to any rogue programs, unless they can
>re-etch the ROM on the fly :-) ...
>
>The other drives are all susceptible to rogue programs.
>
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The prices of flash cards, at least the CF ones used in digital cameras
that can also be used in type II PCMCIA slots with the proper adapters,
have been falling down relentlessly. All the more reason to consider these
cards for backups. I have not benchmarked them for speed, to store active
files, though.

Anand.


At 01:23 AM 19-05-99 Wednesday , Ed Padin wrote:
>It's worth a few buks to buy a 20MB flash card and back up the 32MB
>partition with pkzip et al. I use an old SUNdisk/IBM thinkpadfile card for
>this. You could probably get them cheap 2nd hand. It's alos good to get a
>card reader for the PC. These can be had for < $100 and makes backup and
>file transfer really easy.
>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> > I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to
>> prevent wiping of
>> > the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.
>> Not only does
>> > it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory
>> upgrades have
>> > proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up
>> the palmtop so
>> > badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant
>> "Initializing RAM drive"
>> > message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
>> > initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
>> > happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still
>> there, good as new.
>>
>> Your second point is completely correct, what will be
>> initialized is the F:
>> drive on the palmtop in a 32/64 setup.
>>
>> But: Having myself been the beneficiary of a 32MB that did
>> not corrupt when
>> the power was out of the machine, let me point out to you
>> that you should not
>> count on this!!! Mack is DEFINITELY not recommending reliance
>> on the board to
>> retain content for any length of time. If you do, great! Next
>> time place a
>> special "Thank you" prayer to whoever you pray to. (If you do
>> not pray, maybe
>> one or two of these may convince you about miracles! :) ...)
>
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Carrying the 200LX AND Calculators vs. 200LX

Phil Drummond writes:
> Open the HP CALC application and enter x¬y<enter> where x=any number and
> y=any number.  The "¬" key is a <shift><quicken> key.

Thank you, Phil!  I've wished for this function for some time.
There *was* one advantage of not knowing that trick, though--it
made me go back to log functions and relearn how to do it that
way (i.e., y¬x = 10¬(x log y)).

After further checking, I see that I could have learned this from
the manual.  Guess I have some more reading to do!

Ted


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> I was unable to find the answer to this question with a cursory search, so
> I'm asking here...
>
> Is there some sort of formula for the (US) federal withholding tax and the

Yes, simply multiply your salary/wage by 100% and provide it to them!
(G)

The amount withheld can be determined by you depending on the W4 (is
it?).  You can play with the deductions upping or lowering them within
limits to either get a return, minimize the amount you owe or come close
to zero.  I have worked with our personnel dept in the past to get close
to zero owed or returned but seem to always owe a goodly sum (but not a
penalty amount).

I, also, live in a no income tax state - sales tax must make up for it -
Washington

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Thought this might interest some.  I have nothing to do with this source, but
did buy my OB800 from them.  Good luck.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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A Meshar wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> > Well, Avi, accepting your challenge, I went after my 200lx. But, how are we going
> > to explain this:
> >
> > I made backups of pdb and gdb
> > closed everything
> > opened phone and database
> > warm booted
>
> Except for the backup I did what you did, some of my reboots were cold boots.
>
> > Voila, phone.pdb would not even load. I got the message "file does not exist"
> > I attempted to open it by, "pointing" to the phone.pdb, pressed enter... "file
> > does not exist"
> > No problem, I have my backup, so attempted to open it.... "file does not exist"
> > Now, getting a little concerned, I tried to open d:\_dat\phone.pdb... "file does
> > not exist"
> > I next copied d:\_dat\phone.pdb into my working c:subdirectory... "file does not
> > exist"
> > finally in complete frustration, I renamed the phone.env
> > this then worked, but somewhere along the way my backup got corrupted and had to
> > restore from last weeks..
>
> Well, you have a whole "nother" class of problem. Seems to me you have a
> corrupted -disk_ not a corrupted _file_. If your system cannot find a file to
> open, yet you can point to it it at once sees it and does not see it - see my
> point about corrupted disk?
>
> > (By the way, gdb came up immediately as if nothing had ever happened!!)
>

You are correct, that is NOT the usual error message. It is usually "record not found"
with a refusal to open the attempted database.

I ran checkdisk. everything seemed ok. It appears that phone.env got corrupted. By
renaming it and making phone make a new one, everything then worked correctly (except
for the corrupted pdb).


>
> Could be. When you have corrupted disk all bets are off and all results are
> completely unpredictable.
>

No corrupted disk (see above) everything worked fine after forcing a new phone.env.

>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com

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> Thanks for looking up the stuff on BUFFERS= ... I upped my specification to
> buffers=50 from 20. I cannot say the palmtop runs faster, but I bet it is

Avi,
While your configuration might benefit from buffers=50 I
wouldn't recommend everyone use that value as a default.
The manual did refer to 50 as an upper logical limit (but didn't
say you couldn't use more).

I believe it is just as bad to use FAR too many buffers as it is
to use FAR too few.  I think having FAR too many buffers could
cause DOS to spend time searching and managing the excess
buffers.  Also 50 buffers uses more storage than a smaller buffer
size. (532 bytes per buffer)

A few extra buffers probably isn't a problem but >10 too many is
probably overkill.  The problem is I don't know how to acurately
measure the ideal value and any ideal value would vary based on
disk size, directory structure, and software needs.

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>      All this talk about BUFFERS, brought to mind the STACKs command.
> The only time I have ever had a Stack Overflow was when I tried to run
> QFax. I tried adding a STACKS command to CONFIG.SYS (probably 9,512),
> but it didn't help. Russ?, anyone? sugestions on STACK allocation?

Al,
The good news is the DOS doc on Stacks is a bit more straight
forward (than Buffers) but still no definates.

"Stacks is the the amount of RAM that DOS reserves for
processing hardware interrupts."

The command format is:  stacks=n,s

   where "n" is 0, or 8 to 64
         "s" is 0, or 32 to 512

"n" is the number of stacks and "s" is the size of each stack.
Example, I assume "stacks=8,512" would use 8*512=4KB of storage.

The "IBM" book book says the default for the IBM PC, PC/XT and
PC Portable (XT motherboard) is stacks=0,0 and all others use
stacks=9,128.  I don't if this is really based on IBM machine
types or on processor types.  (All those pcs used the 8088.)
Since IBM didn't use the 80186 I don't know what the default is
for the LX.

If space is set aside with the stacks command it is used by DOS
when a hardware interrupt occurrs; I think the stack space must
be provided by the program otherwise.

There is also a comment that stacks=0,0 could cause problems
with Windows 3.0.

I think I'm going to try adding stacks=0,0 to my config.sys.
That will either match the default and do nothing or it will
reduce my stacks storage usage to zero and I'll have to wait and
see if I have any negative results.  Time will tell...

cheers... Russ

Followup...
I just added the stacks=0,0 and rebooted.  I have a bit more
storage than I did before so it looks like DOS is defaulting to
having some stack space in the 200LX.  I won't know for a while
yet if it is safe to run with it set to 0,0.
I'll report back if things crash and I'm forced to go back to
the default.

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Al,

=BB> The value of the backup software isn't  related to the organizer...it=
's
> there to protect the data that's in it!  The question to ask is: "how
> important is the information IN the organizer?"  ;-)=AB

Of course, but my wife probably would say it's not worth $89. (G)

Besides pretty soon a low end Palm will sell for $100 with sync software.

Anyway do I look in ebay under computers, portable, etc.?  How would you =
do the search, OL-390?       =3DBob=3D

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Al,

The PCMCIA port is limited to about 150ma on batteries or AC.  Some =
machines will operate above that but it's not really good to push it too =
much for too long.  If you need remote battery power try using Eveready =
AA Lithiums and replace them when they get down to about 2.8v.  That =
should give you plenty of reserve.  They operate in a range from 3.23v on =
down but drop off rapidly at the end below 2.6v.     =3DBob=3D

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I did a test a while back and got these results.
This is the test:
c:
copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp
And time the following:
copy c123us.hlp  junk (5 times).
As I remember, I got approxiately these time:
- c:    8 sec   (to ram)
- a:   13 sec  (using a one year old 2meg Sandisk CF card
- a:   55 sec  (10 meg Sandisk, copyright 1992)
- a:   72 sec  (4meg Maxtor linear flash (pre-ATA))
And CF cards are developing rapidly, so today's design may be
even faster.


Anand Rao wrote:

> The prices of flash cards, at least the CF ones used in digital cameras
> that can also be used in type II PCMCIA slots with the proper adapters,
> have been falling down relentlessly. All the more reason to consider these
> cards for backups. I have not benchmarked them for speed, to store active
> files, though.
>
> Anand.
>
> At 01:23 AM 19-05-99 Wednesday , Ed Padin wrote:
> >It's worth a few buks to buy a 20MB flash card and back up the 32MB
> >partition with pkzip et al. I use an old SUNdisk/IBM thinkpadfile card for
> >this. You could probably get them cheap 2nd hand. It's alos good to get a
> >card reader for the PC. These can be had for < $100 and makes backup and
> >file transfer really easy.
> >
> >>
> >> David,
> >>
> >> > I'd just like to point out that one of the best ways to
> >> prevent wiping of
> >> > the RAM drive in the palmtop is to get a 32/64MB upgrade.
> >> Not only does
> >> > it vastly increase your on-palmtop storage, but the memory
> >> upgrades have
> >> > proved to be nearly bulletproof, and if you ever lock up
> >> the palmtop so
> >> > badly that a ctrl-shift-on produces the instant
> >> "Initializing RAM drive"
> >> > message, it won't hurt you because the palmtop is incapable of
> >> > initializing the RAM drive at that point anyway, and every time it's
> >> > happened to me the contents of my 32MB drive are still
> >> there, good as new.
> >>
> >> Your second point is completely correct, what will be
> >> initialized is the F:
> >> drive on the palmtop in a 32/64 setup.
> >>
> >> But: Having myself been the beneficiary of a 32MB that did
> >> not corrupt when
> >> the power was out of the machine, let me point out to you
> >> that you should not
> >> count on this!!! Mack is DEFINITELY not recommending reliance
> >> on the board to
> >> retain content for any length of time. If you do, great! Next
> >> time place a
> >> special "Thank you" prayer to whoever you pray to. (If you do
> >> not pray, maybe
> >> one or two of these may convince you about miracles! :) ...)
> >
> >snip
> >
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Subject:      Re: Config.Sys "Buffers"

> Avi,
> While your configuration might benefit from buffers=50 I
> wouldn't recommend everyone use that value as a default.
> The manual did refer to 50 as an upper logical limit (but didn't
> say you couldn't use more).
>
> I believe it is just as bad to use FAR too many buffers as it is
> to use FAR too few.  I think having FAR too many buffers could
> cause DOS to spend time searching and managing the excess
> buffers.  Also 50 buffers uses more storage than a smaller buffer
> size. (532 bytes per buffer)
>

The time it would take to manage 50 buffers versis 10 is so small it
is virtually meaningless. The only issue with regards to buffers is
that they take up memory.

> A few extra buffers probably isn't a problem but >10 too many is
> probably overkill.  The problem is I don't know how to acurately
> measure the ideal value and any ideal value would vary based on
> disk size, directory structure, and software needs.
>
> cheers... Russ

Since a buffer is roughly .5K 10 takes 5K of memory that could be
used for something else, that is the only real concern for buffers.
given that this is a ram based system the functionality of the
internal buffers is very limited and probably not worth worrying
about. I would be really suprised if someone could actually measure
the difference in accessing files and such on the LX with 10 buffers
versis 50.

Pete

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Depending on what different people might mean by "case," should we also
mention that the keyboard and overlay are slightly different as well?

Rick

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On 5/17/99, at 7:01 PM, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

>Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
>
>> I thought the 1000CX simply lacked the bundled apps. - what
>> is the case difference between a 100LX and a 200LX?
>
>The size and shape of the 100LX and 200LX cases are identical.
> The only difference is the color.  The 100LX is black while
>the 200Lx is a dark green.
>
>
>Stan
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Subject:      Re: Stacks?

> Al,
> The good news is the DOS doc on Stacks is a bit more straight
> forward (than Buffers) but still no definates.
>
> "Stacks is the the amount of RAM that DOS reserves for
> processing hardware interrupts."
>
> The command format is:  stacks=n,s
>
>    where "n" is 0, or 8 to 64
>          "s" is 0, or 32 to 512
>
> "n" is the number of stacks and "s" is the size of each stack.
> Example, I assume "stacks=8,512" would use 8*512=4KB of storage.
>
> The "IBM" book book says the default for the IBM PC, PC/XT and
> PC Portable (XT motherboard) is stacks=0,0 and all others use
> stacks=9,128.  I don't if this is really based on IBM machine
> types or on processor types.  (All those pcs used the 8088.)
> Since IBM didn't use the 80186 I don't know what the default is
> for the LX.
>
> If space is set aside with the stacks command it is used by DOS
> when a hardware interrupt occurrs; I think the stack space must
> be provided by the program otherwise.
>
> There is also a comment that stacks=0,0 could cause problems
> with Windows 3.0.
>
> I think I'm going to try adding stacks=0,0 to my config.sys.
> That will either match the default and do nothing or it will
> reduce my stacks storage usage to zero and I'll have to wait and
> see if I have any negative results.  Time will tell...
>
> cheers... Russ
>
> Followup...
> I just added the stacks=0,0 and rebooted.  I have a bit more
> storage than I did before so it looks like DOS is defaulting to
> having some stack space in the 200LX.  I won't know for a while
> yet if it is safe to run with it set to 0,0.
> I'll report back if things crash and I'm forced to go back to
> the default.
>

The problem with having 0,0 is that SOME programs may crash,
depending on how they are written. I have seen some programs that
require that you increase the size of the stacks. either way don't be
suprised if you have a strange crash or two. Also, it will not
necessarily say "stack overflow" or something similar, it canjust
hang your machine in odd ways. That is probably why either the
version of dos in the lx, or msdos 5.0 in general, is defaulting to
some stacks.

Pete



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This is really interesting. Why should deleting phone.env help? Using Filer
| F8, the only content in the phone.env I see is the name of the phone file
last opened. Are there any hidden characters that we do not see?

In addition to the error messages mentioned here, I have also had the
program tell me that the file is password protected ( when in fact it is
not). And there seems to be no disk corruption - at least not something
that CHKDSK can reveal.

Anand.

At 05:24 PM 18-05-1999 Tuesday -0700, bob wrote:
>A Meshar wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> > Well, Avi, accepting your challenge, I went after my 200lx. But, how are
>we going
>> > to explain this:
>> >
>> > I made backups of pdb and gdb
>> > closed everything
>> > opened phone and database
>> > warm booted
>>
>> Except for the backup I did what you did, some of my reboots were cold
boots.
>>
>> > Voila, phone.pdb would not even load. I got the message "file does not
>exist"
>> > I attempted to open it by, "pointing" to the phone.pdb, pressed enter...
>"file
>> > does not exist"
>> > No problem, I have my backup, so attempted to open it.... "file does not
>exist"
>> > Now, getting a little concerned, I tried to open d:\_dat\phone.pdb...
>"file does
>> > not exist"
>> > I next copied d:\_dat\phone.pdb into my working c:subdirectory... "file
>does not
>> > exist"
>> > finally in complete frustration, I renamed the phone.env
>> > this then worked, but somewhere along the way my backup got corrupted
>and had to
>> > restore from last weeks..
>>
>> Well, you have a whole "nother" class of problem. Seems to me you have a
>> corrupted -disk_ not a corrupted _file_. If your system cannot find a
file to
>> open, yet you can point to it it at once sees it and does not see it -
see my
>> point about corrupted disk?
>>
>> > (By the way, gdb came up immediately as if nothing had ever happened!!)
>>
>
>You are correct, that is NOT the usual error message. It is usually "record
>not found"
>with a refusal to open the attempted database.
>
>I ran checkdisk. everything seemed ok. It appears that phone.env got
>corrupted. By
>renaming it and making phone make a new one, everything then worked
>correctly (except
>for the corrupted pdb).
>
>
>>
>> Could be. When you have corrupted disk all bets are off and all results are
>> completely unpredictable.
>>
>
>No corrupted disk (see above) everything worked fine after forcing a new
>phone.env.
>
>>
>>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>>   http://www.dasoft.com
>

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>From: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:09 PM
>Subject: Re: I am very surprised !!


>bob wrote:

>>I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any
longer
>>about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I
have
>>moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier
backups.
>>How many records do you have? I have 227. What other differences might
there
>>be?

>I almost always have the following open:
>Phone: highly modified format, over 1000 records
>DataBase: plain phone format file, about 300 records
>Appointment: of course
>Buddy

>And frequently have NoteTaker open with a very customized form, with
>lots of info in the Note of each, usually about 150 records. Filer is
>always closed (closed all the way).

>All these files are in the C:\_DAT directory. Your special
>subdirectory isn't on a flash card, is it? I wouldn't do this out of
>fear of corruption, which I've heard can happen if the battery can't
>supply enough instantaneous current to tunnel those little electrons
>into the oxide.

My subdirectory is C:\DATA for the *.?DB
and                        C:\_DAT for the *.ENV

I wonder if it makes any difference having the environment files in a
different subdirectory than the database files?

NO. I just tried it with both files in c:\_dat, and all the same
results.
CHKDSK shows no disk errors.
After deleting BOTH phone.pdb and phone.env, the phone book defaulted to
d:\_dat phone.
Then I could open my previous c:\data\phone.pdb

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>   Subject:  PDB Corruption
>   Date:      Tue, 18 May 1999 14:29:56 -0500
>   From:     Chuck Sutherland <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>



>Both my wife and I have HP200LXs.  We BOTH have had corruption in Phone

>Book...of individual records and occassionally the entire phone
database.
>This is usually associated with an occurance of low battery warnings.
I
>speculate that the problem is somehow associated with power
fluctuations.
>Any thoughts?
>Chuck Sutherland

Chuck,

That certainly may be part of the problem. However, I have removed my
pcmcia card, my batteries are above 2.5V, and the problem will occur
everytime that I re-boot with phone open.

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I don't actually run out of memory as I have had this problem happen with just
the note taker and phone book open and I run a full 640 system, and I know that
I have enough memory to keep what I was running open.  It just gives me an "out
of memory" error.

Dan




A Meshar wrote:
>
> dan,
>
> > The only time I have ever corrupted a PDB is by leaving it open, going into note
> > taker and entering a note with F3.  This sometimes gives me a lack of memory
> > error (there is plenty available) and shows me garbage in the note, I can exit
> > the note and if I wish exit the note taker without trouble.  However, the PDB
> > that was open in the background is ruined.
>
> Very interesting effect. I have never seen this before. The fact that you run
> out of memory may be a significant factor here, but I am not sure even this
> would cause the PDB to corrupt. Definitely weird. I believe that in your case
> the databases are somehow cross-linked.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com

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Message-Id: <19990519040724.DHHN18978@Ý12.72.154.140¨>
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 04:07:24 +0000

I checked their website.  These are factory refurbished units.
Might still be a good buy tho.

- Longden

On 1999-05-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Thought this might interest some.  I have nothing to do with this
   >source, but did buy my OB800 from them.  Good luck.
   >Lynn M. Cavendish
   >Forwarded message:
   ><SNIP>
   >======================================================
   >HP OmniBook 800CT P/166MMX TFT -WOW! $699! - SH2773
   >======================================================
   >-166MHz Pentium Processor with MMX / 512K Cache L2
   >-2.1GB Hard Drive / 16MB RAM (expandable to 80MB)
   >-10.4 inch SVGA TFT Screen / WIN95 / UNDER 4 POUNDS!!

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Hi Brian,

I added 64mb to mine, with no regrets.  I've had as many as 12 apps running
at the same time, including Agenda, Systat, Word, Excel, Eudora, the 200LX
connectivity pack, etc., with no detriment in performance.  I ran "mem",
and had plenty left over (but don't remember how much - didn't even come
close to the limit).  The cost was about $175.  Let me know if you can't
find it for less.  The same company says they can do a speed upgrade, but
for now, it's plenty fast for me.  Also, shop around, you should be able to
find a 4 gb hard drive for it.  I think it uses a standard 2.5" drive, but
not sure.  Mine came with 4 gb.

Let me know if you can't find the CD - I might be able to find one (but not
sure - e-mail me off-line).

Actually, Win95 is pretty stable for me.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot!  Hook 'em!  How's the Navy treating you these days?

Claud (U.T. '81, '86 - not t.u. for you Aggies out there)

At 12:32 PM 5/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Brian McIlvaine wrote:
>
>> After hearing it discussed on this list and looking at the specs I went
ahead
>> and purchased a used OmniBook 800. It came with 16Mb and 1.3 GB hard
drive. I
>> was wondering if any of the other OB 800 owners out there had increased
their
>> memory size, and what they thought it did for performance? Also, the
unit came
>> with no documentation or CDROM, but the seller took a credit card order,
so I
>> am pretty sure it is a legitimate sale. I know the reference book is
built in,
>> but did you receive a "Recovery CDROM" with yours? Knowing how stable
Windows
>> 95 is, I am pretty sure that at some point I am going to have to reload.
When I
>> contacted the seller, he said that I would have to contact HP, but that
didn't
>> sound quite right, so I thought I'd tap the experience of other OB 800
owners.
>>
>> I appreciate any feedback you might have.
>>
>> Brian
>>

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=46ryday wrote:

>How do you bypass buddy's password screen when the automatic backup =
happens?

I don't have Buddy set to use a password.

--=20
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You can use keystuffer (ks.com) from your appointment book to insert key strokes
into the keyboard buffer.  This makes the machine think you are actually sitting
there and hitting the keys.  You then tell ks.com what buttons you want hit.  I
use it and am very happy.  I have it run a sequence every night that does:
        enter my password to get into the machine
        go to the application manager and close everything
        run a batch that copies any files that I have
                in certain directories to back them up
        run topcard to change my topcard for the next day
        close the palmtop back down with password protection

Dan Carrington





Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> Fryday wrote:
>
> >How do you bypass buddy's password screen when the automatic backup happens?
>
> I don't have Buddy set to use a password.
>
> --
> Curtis
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Reinhard Mueller wrote:
> Unfortunately there is no german version of Buddy, is there?

There are too many display hints Buddy depends on and they are
different for different language palmtops. Jeff Mattox could not be
convinced to do the huge effort it would take to write localised
versions.

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>Anyway do I look in ebay under computers, portable, etc.?  How would you
do the search, OL-390?

Try sharp yo  and see what happens; mostly get a bunch of organizers, but
try different searches...it doesn't cost much more to try a few different
search strings ;¬)  My guess is that most people wouldn't sell the 390 by
itself, but with a functional compatible organizer.  If you want a LOT of
listings, plug in sharp!  You might find one or two you didn't see before!

The backups gives me some peace of mind, but it's hard to get past the
concept of paying more for the backup stuff than you did for the main unit!
 I became so paranoid that I purchased a second organizer, just in case the
original popped out of my pocket & got run over by a truck!  At least I'd
have something compatible to reload the data into!

>The PCMCIA port is limited to about 150ma on batteries or AC.  Some
machines will operate above >that but it's not really good to push it too
much for too long.  If you need remote battery power try using >Eveready AA
Lithiums and replace them when they get down to about 2.8v.  That should
give you >plenty of reserve.  They operate in a range from 3.23v on down
but drop off rapidly at the end below >2.6v.

For organizer backup, I'm not that hung up on having it usable with self
contained batteries, so I can live with the limitation of using external
power (I can even plug it into the cigarette lighter in the car in a
pinch-with reversed polarity, of course!).  Where i might find it a bit
confining is using it with a packet radio controller in a remote setting.
The controller runs off a 9 volt battery, so maybe excess current drain
through the rs232 port won't be an issue in that application.  Guess I'll
find out when I get around to trying it...more concerned with setting up
for email initially, since I'm going on vacation in a month or so.  Anyway,
thank you for the tidbit about the pcmica port; another post indicated that
use with a similar organizer resulted in excessive power drain through the
serial port.  I was surprised that alkalines wouldn't power it for a minute
or two, anyway, since the voltage didn't drop significantly, according to
my voltmeter.  Also, I've not had any experience with lithium cells, so
appreciate your data on them.

>Besides pretty soon a low end Palm will sell for $100 with sync software.

Right...what  I miss on the Palmpilots and similar units is the keyboard; I
like to have the capability to easily enter data during the day if/when I
have time...I just don't like tha palmpilot's way of doing it!

CUL,

Al

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> Is it possible to retain the initial C: drive as C:, and rename the
> additional 32/64 MB as F: or G:?

Yes. But it is a pain then to use you major drive" in filer - you constantly
have to change drives.

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Hi,

     Well, a number of people responded, thank
you all.  The HP calculators didn't do it that way,
They labeled the key "Y¬X".  (Except for the HP-35.)
And of course it never occurred to me that the ¬ was
an active key.  And since I had looked in the manual
before...  Well I looked again and found in in five
seconds.  Weird.

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Paulo has completed the code to allow uploads to the icon server. We haven't
really tried hard to break it yet, but I figure you can do that for us.

--
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The CF cards are faster now.

My 6 months old 48mb Sandisk CF did the same copy (except 10 times instead of 5)
in five seconds.   The same copy took about 1/2 second less on my internal C
drive (I have a 6mb double-speed model).

I'm also getting better battery life than with my previous Simple Tech 40mb ATA
flash.

- Longden





Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET> on 05/18/99 05:55:44 PM

Please respond to speters@kdsi.net

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Subject:  CF card performance




I did a test a while back and got these results.
This is the test:
c:
copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp
And time the following:
copy c123us.hlp  junk (5 times).
As I remember, I got approxiately these time:
- c:    8 sec   (to ram)
- a:   13 sec  (using a one year old 2meg Sandisk CF card
- a:   55 sec  (10 meg Sandisk, copyright 1992)
- a:   72 sec  (4meg Maxtor linear flash (pre-ATA))
And CF cards are developing rapidly, so today's design may be
even faster.

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Hi,

     A long time ago, someone wrote a program
to test the effect of buffers.  The idea was to
write a large number of files, many, many times
on a disk, and then report the time used.  This
THRASHER program on a 386DX, showed a large im-
provement going from zero to six, a small improve-
ment to about nine, and not much effect beyond
that.  30 megabyte partition on a SCSI drive.

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That's simple.  You just need to have the following line in your
AUTOEXEC.BAT file:

SET PIMS=C:\HP_CPACK   Ýor whatever directory you have put the files in¨

You could also create another batch file with this line and a call to
APP95.EXE in it and create a shortcut to the .BAT file on your desktop.

Alan Striegel

>From: "Iden Rosenthal" <irosenthal@total1.net>
>...
>If I try to run the APP95.EXE from the CPACk I get the following error:
>
>System Resource Missing
>App95 Cannot Run
>Press ESC to Quit

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> I checked their website.  These are factory refurbished units.
> Might still be a good buy tho.


AND accessories - cd-rom drive, etc don't seem to be available?  I
called re: cd-rom.  Docking station???

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Al,

Thanks.  Yes, I tried Sharp YO- last night and got 6 hits.  I will keep =
watching.     =3DBob=3D

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Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

> Don't discount the amount of current required to save to flash cards.  I was
> corrupting .pdb, .gdb and even .ndb files saved to a flash card due to low
> batteries.  I've since began changing batteries at a minimum of 2.5 volts
> (thanks Avi) and I haven't corrupted a file (any file) since

Exactly right.

An ATA flash card has a controller in it to make it look like
an IDE hard disk to the BIOS & operating system.  Since the
card's controller is smart and takes care of the all of the
details involved in actually writing the data to the flash
chips, the OS just hands over the write command and the data
to the controller on the card and then the OS just waits for
the return signal that is it done.

Well, during that split second of waiting time, if the BIOS
senses the batteries are dying, it could turn off the palmtop
while the controller on the flashcard is still trying to
write.  So, given the proper timing, there could possibly be a
data corruption on the flash card during a low battery
condition.

This was one of the purposes of the ACE Technologies BATTman
program.  It would always check the state of the batteries
before doing a write operation to a flashcard to be sure there
was enough juice to finish it.  And it would not allow the
palmtop to be turned off by the BIOS when the flash card was
still doing a write operation.


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bob <bobv@SOS.NET> wrote:

> I wonder what the difference is? I would surly LOVE to not worry any longer
> about corrupted PDB. Have you left the file in its default location? I have
> moved mine to a subdirectory where I keep all my *.?db for easier backups

The location of any of the built in app files does not matter
at all.  Put them anywhere you want to.


Stan

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Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> wrote:

> I almost always have the following open:
> Phone: highly modified format, over 1000 records
> DataBase: plain phone format file, about 300 records
> Appointment: of course
> Buddy

Why do you keep those files open all the time?  You don't have
to keep Appt open to have alarms work.

I have a policy of never leaving any of my PIM files open.
When I want to use the phone book, I press the hot key to open
it, use it and then use Buddy's Menu . to close it.  I credit
this policy with preventing me from ever having a corrupt ADB,
GDB, PDB or NDB file.

Since I have noticed that the amount of time it takes to
actually open a PIM file is the same as it takes to hot switch
to an already open one, I always play it safe and keep them
closed.  This also prevents me from ever getting an out of
memory error.  I highly recommend this to everyone.


Stan

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Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET> wrote:

> What is the largest size spreadsheet you can load w/ the 200lx?
> Is there a way to increase the size?

There is an Undo feature in Lotus that you can turn on and
off.  I think that by turning this off, you can work with
larger spreadsheets.  I have not tried this on the palmtop,
but I remember that with Lotus version 2 on the desktop, if
Undo was enabled, it reserved 1/2 of the RAM to hold the
previous version of the spreadsheet during each operation in
case you wanted to Undo.

There is not specific number of rows and/or columns that is a
limit, except for the maximum numbers Lotus can handle.  If
you are refering to how big of a sheet can load, that would
depend on the amount of RAM available to Lotus and the amount
of information in each cell.

Make sure you close all other applications (including Filer
with the special utility) to give the most amount of RAM to
Lotus.  You can also tune your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT to
optimize available RAM.


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> There is an Undo feature in Lotus that you can turn on and
> off.
>
> Stan

I have being using Lotus 123 on my palmtop daily for almost 2 years, and
have never gotten the undo feature to do anything.  Has anyone got this
to work?  If so what do you have to set to make it work?  Using the
defaults from a re-initialized "C" drive on my LX does not work for me.
Any suggestions anyone?




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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> This was one of the purposes of the ACE Technologies BATTman
> program.  It would always check the state of the batteries
> before doing a write operation to a flashcard to be sure there
> was enough juice to finish it.  And it would not allow the
> palmtop to be turned off by the BIOS when the flash card was
> still doing a write operation.
>
> Stan

Don't suppose that program is available anywhere right?




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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This package, SECDEV, is available from SUPER. Its purpose is to create a
secure "partition" on your palmtop. The access to the "partition" is via a
password which you supply each time you access files on that "partition". It
implements as an extension to the operating system, i.e. DEVICE= in the
CONFIG.SYS.

The "partition is just a file of some size on the disk, and inside it the
program sets up the files you send to that "partition". The way the
"partition" is accesses is by using a drive letter for it.

This reminds me of Stacker.

It seems to wkr in at least two aspects:

1. I can create the partition

2. I can see a F: drive on my machine (which is supposedly that "partition".

3. I cannot access it. It seems the driver does not work?

Anyone has tried it and made it work? Share your wisdom?

TIA

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Paul,

> If you use the KeyM program from the SUPER site, you can close Filer to get
> a little more space... ...but not much.

Actually it is not space you gain but memory. And it is about 50+K - about 10%
of what's available on the palmtop.

(Space is where you put you data and programs on disk. Memory is where you run
programs.)

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Bob,

> I wonder if it makes any difference having the environment files in a
> different subdirectory than the database files?

I think env files are always ending up in C:\_dat - it is hard coded in the
database engine.

> NO. I just tried it with both files in c:\_dat, and all the same
> results.
> CHKDSK shows no disk errors.

Chkdsk is a goo utility but it is DEFINITELY not the perfect tool. There are
many things it cannot find and even if found, its fix may be pretty
ineffective.

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> While your configuration might benefit from buffers=50 I
> wouldn't recommend everyone use that value as a default.
> The manual did refer to 50 as an upper logical limit (but didn't
> say you couldn't use more).

yes, I checked with the original MSDOS 5.0 Manual. It states 1 to 99, but also
discusses 50 as a reasonable number for most heavy systems. I have a 160MB
flash card and so it seems reasonable.

I still do not understand the purpose of the secondary cache, which also
Stephan Goeldi mentioned to me.

> I believe it is just as bad to use FAR too many buffers as it is
> to use FAR too few.  I think having FAR too many buffers could
> cause DOS to spend time searching and managing the excess
> buffers.  Also 50 buffers uses more storage than a smaller buffer
> size. (532 bytes per buffer)

Yes, these buffers are a good way to spnd 25-26K in memory, which a high
number. The search time, well I dunno if this is a major hit.

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Anand,

> This is really interesting. Why should deleting phone.env help? Using Filer

I am surised myself, but it is possible if the disk structure is a bit
scrambled and confuses the phonebook app.

> | F8, the only content in the phone.env I see is the name of the phone file
> last opened. Are there any hidden characters that we do not see?

Some env files have also binary information which may not be visible wth
Filer's View.

> In addition to the error messages mentioned here, I have also had the
> program tell me that the file is password protected ( when in fact it is
> not). And there seems to be no disk corruption - at least not something
> that CHKDSK can reveal.

When a database is password protexteed, it is actually scrambled using that
password. When Phonebook notices the file is scrambled, it thinks the file is
password protected. Why would it scramble? Well if the file has been overlaid
by another file, it will look pretty much scrambled (and appear to the
phonebook app as password protected.) AFAIK all databases act like this.

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Anand,

> Avi, You have a large PDB file on the flash card. How does it affect the
> speed of operation? Referring to data should be no problem speedwise, but
> how about adding new data? I find that with my PDB on the c: drive with
> half the number of records it takes several seconds sometimes for the
> hourglass to disappear.

It is obviously slower, but I am not really bothered by the slower speed much.
Occasionally I move the file to C: but I cannot tell you that I am wowed by
the speed gain, and considering the slightly more safe pc card, Makes me
happier...

If the speed is an issue my recommendation is to cut one cup of coffee per
day. It seems to me we spend hours and days and a river of electronic ink on
something that ultimately would change your day by some thinke get you 24 more
seconds per day. It seems a bit ludicrous to worry about such times.

> With the PDB file in the c:drive, do you close the application after each
> use as some have suggested or do you keep it open throughout the day?

My PDB is on the A: drive, not the C drive, and yes I close it probably 80-90%
of times after each use. Sometimes my work is such that I lknow I'll be in it
several times, so I leave it open.

I think it is fair to say that most of the databases are closed almost all the
time unless in use.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Wed, 19 May 1999 18:27:44 GMT
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Hi,

>   Daniel, maybe I'm missing something here, but when I want to add two
> numbers together on the 200LX, I can't imagine wasting time with Derive or
> 1-2-3.  How about comparing apples to apples?  Fire up the calculator app
> (one keystroke, takes about 1/10th of a second to boot) and press

Sure. But for me it doesn't take 1/10th of a second - it takes abt. 6
seconds, since I use SC running on a flash card.

> "2<enter>4<+>".  How is a TI calculator "_much_ better" than that??  (Does
> the TI in question support RPN?  If it doesn't, IMHO, that alone would make
> the 200LX the _much_ better simple calculator.)

s.o.
If you don't have a DOS-app. open that prevents loading the calculator,
it's good. But if one have to leave another app first, and then load
the calculator, it's much faster to pull another calculator out of
one's pocket, switch it on and do the calculations.

As I said, Derive isn't ther right tool for simple maths.
But a very good tool for complicated maths!


>
>   For basic arithmetic operations I haven't found a calculator better than
> the one built into the 200LX.  (Although, I will admit the case+keyboards on
> the old HP21, 25, and 29c made for _much_ better one-handed calculators...
> And the symbolic/list functions in the HP48 would be nice to have...)

did you try derive? maybe it has what you need (except the keyboard, of
course ;-) )

GTX
daniel


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Hi,

In PE I can add clog=3D2 to the .cfg file and it will keep me from
pressing ESC too many times and closing PE.  Does any one know if this
can somehow be done in HV?  I have tried adding clog=3D2, or clog=3D1, or
clog=3D0 in hv.cfg to no avail.  I use the ESC key in HV to go backwards,
because I find it is in a more natural keyboard location for my hands
(the upper left hand corner, rather than using the back key in the
center of the keyboard).

What happens to me is I press ESC many times to keep backing up, and
end up going past the first page without knowing it, and then HV
closes, and my online connection is also closed.  I know someone could
answer, don't do that anymore, but I thought I would ask if someone
might know how to disable this, or have a better solution for me.  I
keep my hands on the outside of the palmtop while browsing.

Any help would be appreciated.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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If you check the F1 main help index for 123, the last item will tell you that
once you activate UNDO, you can undo the most recent action using Alt-F4.

I tried it and, lo and behold it does as promised.

Don't feel bad tho... I didn't even know it had an UNDO (of course I won't use
it now that I do <g>.)

- Longden





Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET> on 05/19/99 11:04:09 AM

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> There is an Undo feature in Lotus that you can turn on and
> off.
>
> Stan

I have being using Lotus 123 on my palmtop daily for almost 2 years, and
have never gotten the undo feature to do anything.  Has anyone got this
to work?  If so what do you have to set to make it work?  Using the
defaults from a re-initialized "C" drive on my LX does not work for me.
Any suggestions anyone?

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Fred,

=BB> AND accessories - cd-rom drive, etc don't seem to be available?  I
> called re: cd-rom.  Docking station???=AB

I see them often for sale at ebay.com under computers, portable, omnibook.
=3DBob=3D

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From time-to-time, I also get the garbage in the full screen notes field
(mentioned below); something like once every 2 or 3 months. This was on an
unmodified 2MB LX without SC or Buddy. Contrary to other people's advice here
on corruption, I reboot as soon as I see the garbase (don't even quit the note
field, let alone the app). Before the reboot trick, I nearly always got a
corrupt file somewhere. For me, rebooting has _never_ corrupted any file while
open. You do lose any unsaved data in Memo or 1-2-3 though.

> > The only time I have ever corrupted a PDB is by leaving it open, going into note
> > taker and entering a note with F3.  This sometimes gives me a lack of memory
> > error (there is plenty available) and shows me garbage in the note, I can exit
> > the note and if I wish exit the note taker without trouble.  However, the PDB
> > that was open in the background is ruined.
>


Also, Avi, I'll testify that the error shows insufficient memory and beeps,
yet App Mgr shows, say, 150k free and it's not a big note, perhaps one screen.

> Very interesting effect. I have never seen this before. The fact that you run
> out of memory may be a significant factor here, but I am not sure even this
> would cause the PDB to corrupt. Definitely weird. I believe that in your case
> the databases are somehow cross-linked.
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Sold 1 unit still have 1 left  with manual  as well as a connectivity kit.
Any interest pls. e-mail me direct.
Check out the info at: http://www.geoworks.com/devices/omnigo/index.html
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What are you asking?

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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>Sold 1 unit still have 1 left  with manual  as well as a connectivity kit.
>Any interest pls. e-mail me direct.
>Check out the info at: http://www.geoworks.com/devices/omnigo/index.html
>TX Roy
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Wed, 19 May 1999 21:25:04 -0400 (EDT)

1 day 07h25m52s ago ...
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I've been trying to add long file names to zip archives...<snip>...

After this post, I did a little fiddlin' around with XF copy to
directories and archives.  There's an interesting bit of intelligence
involved when using long file names.  If you copy one or more files
with long names, XF will automatically create a new _.xfn file in the
destination directory (or archive).  This isn't simply a copy of the
_.xfn in the source directory - it only includes the long names for the
copied files!  Cool!  Even after 5 months this program has surprises...

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Two HP100LX 2MB units for sale.

Both in like new condition.

One was kept protected in soft case inside a hard plastic case.

Other palmtop was used very little, kept primarily for backup.

Complete with manuals and original boxes.

If interested, please make offer off list.

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Hi Robert,

> I have being using Lotus 123 on my palmtop daily for almost 2 years, and
> have never gotten the undo feature to do anything.  Has anyone got this
> to work?  If so what do you have to set to make it work?  Using the
> defaults from a re-initialized "C" drive on my LX does not work for me.
> Any suggestions anyone?

It works. First you have to enable it /wgdoueq then you'll see an annunciator
at the bottom of the screen with UNDO in it.

Now enter in a cell @today and press Enter. Now Press Alt-F4 and the cell
empties. Alt-F4 again undoes the undo :) ...

That's it. Limited... but works as advertised in the incredibly extensive
section about Lotus 123 in the HP User Guide! :-)))) (Not really there...)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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A Meshar writes:
> It seems to wkr in at least two aspects:
> 1. I can create the partition
> 2. I can see a F: drive on my machine (which is supposedly that "partition".
> 3. I cannot access it. It seems the driver does not work?

You need to login to the drive using the login.exe program that comes
with secdev.

I use secdev to store all my sensitive data (in a 524288 byte
partition) and it has worked flawlessly for me.

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>All I can suggest is that on whatever you are linking the OL
>cable and HP cable with, see if you can provide external +5v to whichever
>pins are specified to have power.

Thank you for your input; for the organizer backup process, I can live with
using an external supply, if that's what it wants.  Down the road I want to
set it up to use with an amateur radio packet radio controller.  Hopefully
I won't have this problem with it; I have heard of others who have set it
up with packet controllers and ALLEGEDLY not needed to provide external
power.  I say ALLEGEDLY because it wasn't reported that was necessary, but
it wasn't specifically mentioned, one way or the other. Let's hope it
doesn't need it, anyway!  8¬)


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Avi and List

I was completely wrong. The number after the comma is not the secondary cache, but the read-ahead number.
See the following description from http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/4299/dosindex.html



Syntax:

BUFFERS=(number),(read-ahead number)

Purpose: Used in the CONFIG.SYS file to set the number of disk buffers (a number from 1 to 99) that will be available for use during data input. Also used to set a
value for the number of sectors to be read in advance (read-ahead) during data input operations.

Discussion

While conducting input and output operations, DOS stores information in memory buffers so that it will be readily available when requested by an application. The
more buffers set in the CONFIG.SYS file with the BUFFERS command, the faster DOS will be able to access the information requested. You should experiment to
determine the most efficient number of buffers for your computer and the applications you are running. The same is true for determining the appropriate number of
read-ahead buffers. The read ahead buffers determine the amount of data DOS will read from the disk in addition to the data requested by the application. For more
information on the BUFFERS command, refer to Chapter 6, Tips for Advanced Users.

Options

number - Sets the number of disk buffers DOS should use (1 to 99). If no value is provided the default value (determined by the amount of memory in your
computer) will be used. Generally, if you have 512K of memory, the default will be 15.

read ahead - Sets the number of buffers in the secondary or read-ahead cache. DOS 5.0 allows values of 1 to 8 with 1 as the default. In DOS 6.0 you can specify 0
to 8 with 0 as the default.

Example

To set buffers to 20 and read-ahead buffers to 2 enter the following line in your CONFIG.SYS file
buffers=20,2

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Maybe a dumb question:

I have several databases with date fields. When creating a new record, I
normally use 'Fn-,' to insert the today's date, and then '+' or '-' to
advance or go back by one day.

Is it possible to press a key and get the same pop-up as in appointments
with 'F6', to show a little calendar, and let you navigate at will?

Currently I switch to appointments, add a dummy appointment, select the
date, copy, go back to database and paste - a bit too twisted...


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Rod, Thanks for writing back about SECDEV.

Well here is the latest scoop:

1. Created a file via mkvolume xxx.xxx yyyyyy - that went fine. At first I
created it on the G: drive then I thought there is interference with volume
names, so I created it on A: - no question if it really A: or a swpped name
etc :) ...

It asked for the passphrase twice. It said it succeeded to put it in 6 pieces,
and to hide it.

2. Next changed CONFIG.SYS and put the DEVICE= before any other devices, so as
to not get into any issues of what is there... Maybe that is a culprit (maybe
some other app swallows input to SECDEV.)

I see secdev 6144 in mem /c after I kill SC. (yeah, I eliminated lots of
possible interferers :) ...)

3. then login a and it tells me it is not an encrypted drive. then login a: -
same. Login a:\xxx.yyy - same.

Hmmmmm... Maybe, I need to access the other volume - the one created by
SECDEV! Aha!!! Success!!!

Ok: Avi's brief instructions on SECDEV - with thanks to Rod for serving
(unwittingly) as the lightning rod (pun intended!) to my thinking process! :)

SECURE DEVICE is a system that purports to create a piece of your drive as its
own device. So my A: drive now has a file xxxx.xxx which looks like dreck -
nothing discernible, all the info is encrypted.

Inside xxxx.xxx are several files, all encrypted using a passphrase (a
password). To access those files, I must gain access to the file xxxxx.xxx as
a device.

For that purpose there is a driver called SECDEV.SYS which is loaded in the
CONFIG.SYS. Now drive F: is that secure device (represented by file
xxxxx.xxx.)

So the steps:

0. Get the file from SUPER... and unzip it.

1. MKVOLUME <filename> <size>     - size in bytes. File must reside on the
root of a drive (take your pick of drives!) If it is too fragmented, it'll
gripe. It will ask you for a passphrase twice, make up a good one, that you
can still remember. Make it long and add numerics - makes it rather tough to
break.

2. add DEVICE=SECDEV.SYS d:\xxxxx.xxx    where d: is the drive where xxxxx.xxx
resides. (You really don't have to use xxxxx.xxx as the file name even though
I keep using that name! :>) Make sure SECDEV.SYS is in the root where
CONFIG.SYS or add the proper path for it. I put the DEVICE before any other
devices, but apparently not an issue!

3. Reboot.

4. LOGIN f: gains you access to that "disk drive". Mine is 150K and it is
really file xxxxx.xxx (there it is again!) on the A: drive. You will have to
tell your passphrase, so at tis time it is good to remember it. If you use the
name of your girlfriend, then for God's sake settle down, or you'll lose
important data if you change girlfriends too often. (Also applies, if you are
a woman and change boyfriends often, beware! :¨)

Now you can move files into F:, delete, dir, the works.

5. LOGOUT F lowers the boom on that "drive". When you DIR F: you get device
not ready!

It works in filer nicely.

Oh, yeah - if you change girlfriends / boyfriends often, then this is a great
setup to keep names, phone numbers, and other info. But the problem is
remembering the passphrase.

All in all - very impressinve little package. Just keep remembering to LOGOUT
F so that you do not leave the palmtop around with access to that file and its
data open!

Rod, thanks for the help in focusing my thinking.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com






> A Meshar writes:
> > It seems to wkr in at least two aspects:
> > 1. I can create the partition
> > 2. I can see a F: drive on my machine (which is supposedly that "partition".
> > 3. I cannot access it. It seems the driver does not work?
>
> You need to login to the drive using the login.exe program that comes
> with secdev.
>
> I use secdev to store all my sensitive data (in a 524288 byte
> partition) and it has worked flawlessly for me.
>
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> -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 03:25:29 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Robert,

> In PE I can add clog=2 to the .cfg file and it will keep me from
> pressing ESC too many times and closing PE.  Does any one know if this
> can somehow be done in HV?  I have tried adding clog=2, or clog=1, or

Maybe I am wrong, but I always thought Clog= was a binary value, either 0 or
1. It means, clog=1 means - yes, clog me with messages and prompts. Clog=0
means - No! I don't want to be clogged with messages and stuff...

I read your description but I am afraind I did not understand what the problem
is.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 05:55:54 -0000
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              Greg Lolley <vette66@ENTERCOMP.COM>
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I Know this has probably been discussed on this list previously, but I
haven't found it. If maybe someone could lend a little knowledge on
converting my notes to a database. I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks
Greg

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 07:05:54 -0400
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              Schles <schles@HOTMAIL.COM>
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There is a utility called NDB2GDB that you can find on
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html .
Hope this helps.
rgds
das
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From: Greg Lolley <vette66@ENTERCOMP.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 1:55 AM
Subject: ndb to gdb conversion


> I Know this has probably been discussed on this list previously, but I
> haven't found it. If maybe someone could lend a little knowledge on
> converting my notes to a database. I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
> Greg
>
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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$125 each

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 09:00:42 -0400
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              bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM
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Hey Everybody -

I have written an DOS application that allows you to use the built in ccMail
application with your current POP3 email service. It uses Rod Whitby's LXPOP as
the basis of the communication module, which is how I arrived at the name
ccLXPOP (spoken Clicks-Pop). I always liked the interface of ccMail when I used
it with palmtop.com, but the long distance calls were a pain. This allows you
to make a local call to your ISP. ccLXPOP has some advantages, and some
disadvantages:

Disadvantages:
1. Configuration of the setup files is not as easy as some of the commercial
apps - but if you have successfully setup PNR, you have already figured out
most of what you need. This isn't that hard, but there are a few gotchas to
overcome.
2. The maximum message size that can be read is about 24K. If it is bigger, it
will be saved as an attachment, which I view with Memo, but could be looked at
with Filer as well. {This is actually a ccMail limitation, not a ccLXPOP
limit}.
3. It DOES NOT SAVE ANY SIZE over the commercial applications - It is bigger.
All three apps required (Chat.exe, Epppd.exe Ýpart of the WATTCP system files¨
and ccLXPOP) total about 190K. But it is smaller than PNR (No offense Rod!).
4. It is not bullet proof, by any means. It won't fail gracefully if you run
out of disk space - yet. It isn't horrid - won't reset your machine or anything
crazy like that. It just might not tell you that it failed to download your
email successfully. if it doesn't download it, it does not delete it from the
server, so you can still get it. There is one known bug that I am working on -
it currently bombs at about 40 messages downloaded.

Advantages:
1. You can enter and read your email using the ccMail application, and send and
receive attachments as well. I always liked the interface with ccMail better
than any of the commercial apps, which is why I wrote this.
2. To send your email, you exit ccMail, and run ccLXPOP. ccLXPOP will run
easily as a DOS application while in system manager - without exiting system
manager or having to use MAXDOS. I have run the program with Appt Manager and
Phone book open as well.
3. It is cost effective. (It's free - not shareware - just free).
4. You can setup ccLXPOP such that you could put it and the ccMail directory on
a PCMCIA card and run it from your desktop, taking advantage of higher speed
modems and processing to send and load your email, Then pop the card back in
your HPLX to read it with ccMail- I find this particularly useful. Takes much
less time with a 33.6 KBps modem and a K6-200 processor! Download times on the
HPLX are similar to the commercial products.
5. ccMail will no longer be the most useless app in HP ROM. Okay - this is not
a big advantage, but I had to come up with something so disadvantages didn't
outnumber advantages! <g>
6. Written in TC, source code available if someone wants to help further
development.

I characterize this as still alpha software.I have been receiving email this
way for several days. I am looking for a few brave souls to test this "alpha"
release. Please contact me if you are interested. If you have experience with
PNR, please note that when you write. As soon as the alpha testers give the
okay, I'll send it to Mitch to include on SUPER.

Brian

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 20:48:46 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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The time taken to _open_ a PIM file does not bug me, it is the much longer
time taken to _close_  the file that discourages me from closing files all
the time.

I find that even adding new records takes too long, with one phone file of
only 700 entries. As I only open the file sorted in the alphabetical order
of the name, will it be any faster if I export the file to a text format,
sort the text file in the correct order and re-import it? Anyone tried this?

Anand.

At 12:35 AM 20-05-99 Thursday , Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
>Since I have noticed that the amount of time it takes to
>actually open a PIM file is the same as it takes to hot switch
>to an already open one, I always play it safe and keep them
>closed.  This also prevents me from ever getting an out of
>memory error.  I highly recommend this to everyone.
>
>
>Stan
>

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 21:04:58 +0800
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Is there  any good substitute available for CHKDSK? The version of Norton
Disk Doctor I have requires 80286 or above. I wish I had retained those old
PCTOOLS floppies.

Anand.

At 02:20 AM 20-05-99 Thursday , A Meshar wrote:
>Bob,
>
>
>> CHKDSK shows no disk errors.
>
>Chkdsk is a goo utility but it is DEFINITELY not the perfect tool. There are
>many things it cannot find and even if found, its fix may be pretty
>ineffective.
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>  http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 05:25:38 -0700
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              Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET>
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I still have a copy of PCTOOLS.  I'll load it up later today.

Wayne

Anand Rao wrote:

> Is there  any good substitute available for CHKDSK? The version of Norton
> Disk Doctor I have requires 80286 or above. I wish I had retained those old
> PCTOOLS floppies.
>
> Anand.
>
> At 02:20 AM 20-05-99 Thursday , A Meshar wrote:
> >Bob,
> >
> >
> >> CHKDSK shows no disk errors.
> >
> >Chkdsk is a goo utility but it is DEFINITELY not the perfect tool. There are
> >many things it cannot find and even if found, its fix may be pretty
> >ineffective.
> >
> >  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
> >  http://www.dasoft.com
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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 09:13:44 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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I have seen these posts for the last few days, and just wanted
to ask - has anyone tried using one of the DOS ports of the
*nix bc program (bc is, for those unfamiliar with it, a basic
calculator program that allows you to simply type in algebraic
equations in on a command line and results are returned
right away).

This might help the "2+2=" crowd...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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I upgraded my OmniBook 800ct to 80 Meg and have no regrets!

I have only used the machine with 80 Meg, so I have no comparison.

As for the SCSI adapter, OnSale ( http://www.onsale.com/ ) has them
listed, bit not in stock (IIRC), and CMPExpress
(http://www.cmpexpress.com/ )
has them listed as well, and they were in stock (about $45) - having
SCSI on a laptop really improves it's value (for me) - I'd suggest getting
one while you can find one, then you can use *any* SCSI CD-ROM
with the laptop.

BTW, I run Win95 on the machine now, I plan to upgrade to a dual-
boot arrangement soon (either Win95/NT or Win95/Linux), and the
RAM will surely come in handy if I go to WinNT!

HTH,

Ken
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Date:         Wed, 19 May 1999 23:51:45 -0700
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              Eric Thompson <ect@TELEBOT.COM>
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Subject:      OT: Omnibook 600 question

I realize this is not the correct list for this question but I was
wondering if any one knew of a mailing list that might focus on Omnibooks?

Just in case any one on this list might know:
I recently got a Omnibook 600C, to go along with my 200LX, and it seems to
be having a sort of wining problem.  While the system is on it there is
always a high pitch wine, and it seems to changed based on what the
computer is doing.  I don't think it is coming from the hard drive because
when I remove the hard disk the noise is still there.  If any one has any
idea what is wrong could you let me know.

Thanks,
Eric

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 07:37:37 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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There's an OB FAQ at
     http://www.eberl.com/omnibook/omnibook.faq

which mentions a mailing list:

     To post to the list send mail to:  omnilist@elektro.cmhnet.org
     To join/drop membership email ==>  omni-req@elektro.cmhnet.org

which isn't really a listserv.... postings to them usually get a slew of
returned messages from inactive member email addresses.

But there's a few people on there who are quite helpful.... sorry I'm not one of
 them, and have no clue about the whining noise (I make a lot of that myself
<g>).

- Longden





Eric Thompson <ect@TELEBOT.COM> on 05/19/99 11:51:45 PM

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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  OT: Omnibook 600 question




I realize this is not the correct list for this question but I was
wondering if any one knew of a mailing list that might focus on Omnibooks?

Just in case any one on this list might know:
I recently got a Omnibook 600C, to go along with my 200LX, and it seems to
be having a sort of wining problem.  While the system is on it there is
always a high pitch wine, and it seems to changed based on what the
computer is doing.  I don't think it is coming from the hard drive because
when I remove the hard disk the noise is still there.  If any one has any
idea what is wrong could you let me know.

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Just read my note, and when I read it from the list, realized that I might not
have made one thing clear- it fails if you try to download about 40 messages in
a single session. Total number of messages is only function of disk space.

Brian

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 10:08:04 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <Phil_Drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Someone once claimed that the scandisk version packaged with Windows95 would
run on an HP200LX.  I did not believe this, so I tried it.  It does in fact
work!

Use the DOS version, not the GUI version.  Tell them apart by the graphics.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anand Rao ÝSMTP:slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET¨
>
> Is there  any good substitute available for CHKDSK? The version of Norton
> Disk Doctor I have requires 80286 or above. I wish I had retained those
> old
> PCTOOLS floppies.
>
> Anand.
>

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 11:22:01 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Yesterday afternoon (fortunately, immediately after I had completed my daily
backup) my 200LX completely blacked the screen out.  No response to any
keyboard commands, even power switch.  The Ctrl-Shift-On sequence rebooted
and wiped the C: drive and time/date as well.  But the screen went right
back to being totally black.

Only when I removed the AC adapter did it behave properly.  I thought it
might be related to my new NiMH batteries, so I immediately swapped them out
for a set of alkalines.  Later I discovered that as soon as I plugged it in
the screen went black again.  Listening closely, I heard a kind of buzzing
noise.

Is this the symptom of a circuit failure or some kind of short in the
connections?  If it's something I can repair myself, I will.

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Put two lantern type (6volt) lamps in series.  Attach them to the output of
the power supply.  Measure the output of the power supply with an
oscilloscope and look for "ripple" or any non-direct current component in
the power supply output.  If you find none, then your palmtop might have a
problem.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Striegel, Alan ÝSMTP:Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM¨
>
> Listening closely, I heard a kind of buzzing
> noise.
>
> Is this the symptom of a circuit failure or some kind of short in the
> connections?  If it's something I can repair myself, I will.
>
> Alan Striegel

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 10:37:03 -0500
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Hiya gang! I know that a lot of you use Outlook Express for email. I have a
freind that has asked me to help himset up some filters for his incoming
mail. I have never seen or used Outlook and was wondering if someone could
give me some guidance on setting up filters? Thanks in advance!

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------ Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA key -----------*

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.06beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 12:45:15 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> I was completely wrong. The number after the comma is not the secondary cache, but the read-ahead number.
> See the following description from http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/4299/dosindex.html

Weird! My Microsoft MS Dos User Guide specifically calls the second number in
buffers a "secorndary cache".

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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> Also, Avi, I'll testify that the error shows insufficient memory and beeps,
> yet App Mgr shows, say, 150k free and it's not a big note, perhaps one screen.

Well, I believe you all, but I can tell you this never happened to me, and I
don't think I am shy and retiring when it comes to using the palmtop. I cannot
imagine what you guys are doing to these poor beasts. I cannot help you guys,
really. I have never seen this kind of failure rates on my machines or with
people that I know.

I really really want to believe it some usage pattern, but I have no idea what
it is, and I can only tell you that I have a very very different experience
with my machines. I really do not know what this might be. Sorry.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 15:56:47 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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A Meshar wrote:
>
> Well, I believe you all, but I can tell you this never happened to me, and I
> don't think I am shy and retiring when it comes to using the palmtop. I cannot
> imagine what you guys are doing to these poor beasts. I cannot help you guys,
> really. I have never seen this kind of failure rates on my machines or with
> people that I know.
>
> I really really want to believe it some usage pattern, but I have no idea what
> it is, and I can only tell you that I have a very very different experience
> with my machines. I really do not know what this might be. Sorry.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>

My experience, though much more limited that yours, agrees. The only
thing I can remember seeing that parallels this discussion was once
on a time sharing system back in the early 1970s we found that a problem
which seemed to occur whenever the system was `slow'---but which only
happened to a subset of the users---was actually caused by some users
having the `habit' of hitting the return key excessively when they
got impatient.

Needless to say, there was nothing very obvious in the `transcripts'
to see this (white-space) activity...

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:47 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Version 1.03 of PALRUN is now available at ftp.dasoft.com in the MISC
directory as palrun.zip.

This version solves a few problems (number of command line parameters,
serial port interference etc). Harry Konstas, the author of PALRUN
allowed Stefan Peichl and me to "fiddle around" with the source code
and this is what we came up with. Thanks a lot, Harry!

If anyone wants to copy the file to S.U.P.E.R, please do it!

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 16:00:24 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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Thanks everyone who responded to this thread!  Now I wonder if anyone has
tried to print this way from graphics programs from the palmtop (not just
text programs).   How is the speed on either case?
Also, what is the cheapest/smallest printer which will succesfully print
with IR from the palmtop?

TIA!

Domingo

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> > Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 8:08 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: IR printing from Dos
> >
> > Hello everyone.
> > Has anyone been succesful doing the above? If so can you coment on it?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Domingo

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 20:58:34 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Corruption (was Re: Re: I am very surprised !!)
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Hi Avi,

>
> Chkdsk is a goo utility but it is DEFINITELY not the perfect tool. There are
> many things it cannot find and even if found, its fix may be pretty
> ineffective.

Which is better for running on the palmtop?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 20:58:37 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Date fields in databases
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Hi Paulo,

> Currently I switch to appointments, add a dummy appointment, select the
> date, copy, go back to database and paste - a bit too twisted...

What do you think about entering the date by pressing the numbers -
say for today it's
2 0 . 5 . 9 9

?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 17:40:43 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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My main machine is one - they're HP-refurbished. 90 day not full year
warranty, but fully reconditioned to as-new.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)


> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
> Date:    Wed, 19 May 1999 00:07:20 -0400
> From:    Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> Subject: Re: OB800CT
>
> Message-Id: <19990519040724.DHHN18978@Ý12.72.154.140¨>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 04:07:24 +0000
>
> I checked their website.  These are factory refurbished units.
> Might still be a good buy tho.
>
> - Longden
>
> On 1999-05-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>    >Thought this might interest some.  I have nothing to do with this
>    >source, but did buy my OB800 from them.  Good luck.
>    >Lynn M. Cavendish
>    >Forwarded message:
>    ><SNIP>
>    >======================================================
>    >HP OmniBook 800CT P/166MMX TFT -WOW! $699! - SH2773
>    >======================================================
>    >-166MHz Pentium Processor with MMX / 512K Cache L2
>    >-2.1GB Hard Drive / 16MB RAM (expandable to 80MB)
>    >-10.4 inch SVGA TFT Screen / WIN95 / UNDER 4 POUNDS!!
>

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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 19 May 1999 15:45:23 +0000
> From:    "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> Subject: Re: OB800CT
>
> > I checked their website.  These are factory refurbished units.
> > Might still be a good buy tho.
>
>
> AND accessories - cd-rom drive, etc don't seem to be available?  I
> called re: cd-rom.  Docking station???
>
The HP SCSI cable for it is available separately; the CD-ROM drive is
an OEMed Panasonic 783 (8x, currently available also as factory
refurb.), sans internal speakers and PC-Card SCSI but includes the SCSI
Dock cable and power takeoff. Any reasonably motivated person could
build a "Y" power adapter in place of the power takeoff.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 22:04:31 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> This package, SECDEV, is available from SUPER. Its purpose is to create a
> secure "partition" on your palmtop. The access to the "partition" is via a
> password which you supply each time you access files on that "partition". It
> implements as an extension to the operating system, i.e. DEVICE= in the
> CONFIG.SYS.
>
> The "partition is just a file of some size on the disk, and inside it the
> program sets up the files you send to that "partition". The way the
> "partition" is accesses is by using a drive letter for it.

Avi,
I use SECDEV all the time on my 200LX-4M 1X.  I use LOGIN to
enter my password and make the drive accessible.  I think there
is a tsr (SDTSR?) that is supposed to prompt you for the pw when
needed but there was someone else here recently that was having
trouble using it on the LX.  LOGIN is a bit more trouble because
you need to run it before you access the drive but I find it
isn't much of a bother to me; I also don't access that drive too
frequently.

Cheers... Russ

> 2. I can see a F: drive on my machine (which is supposedly that "partition".
> 3. I cannot access it. It seems the driver does not work?

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 22:04:40 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> All in all - very impressinve little package. Just keep remembering to LOGOUT
> F so that you do not leave the palmtop around with access to that file and its
> data open!

Look at the "/T" option on the config.sys driver.  You can
specify a timeout value where the encrypted will automatically
logout if you haven't accessed the drive in xx minutes.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 22:25:16 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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From:         Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Zero response from Puma Technologies
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I've fired off several mails to Puma Technologies to ask if Intellilink
for Windows is Y2K but they haven't responded to any of them!

I wonder if Puma Tech support is asleep?

I use it in the office to synch my HPLX appointment book to MS
Schedule+.

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 17:58:28 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: SECDEV

> Look at the "/T" option on the config.sys driver.  You can
> specify a timeout value where the encrypted will automatically
> logout if you haven't accessed the drive in xx minutes.
>
> cheers... Russ
>

I was just going to ask if there was such a feature, thanks for the
pointer. Now another question, I know this is a taboo subject but has
anyone tried this program under win95? It would be nice to have a
small program for this sort of security that would work everywhere.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 16:19:56 -0700
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP
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Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> Hey Everybody -
>
> I have written an DOS application that allows you to use the built in ccMail
> application with your current POP3 email service............ To send your email,
> you exit ccMail, and run ccLXPOP. ccLXPOP will run easily as a DOS application
> while in system manager . You can setup ccLXPOP such that you could put it and
> the ccMail directory on a PCMCIA card and run it from your desktop, taking
> advantage of higher speed modems and processing to send and load your email, Then
> pop the card back in your HPLX to read it with ccMail-

I'm interested. Also about the desktop option.  I wonder if I reinstalled my
desktop lan version of CCmail if cclxpop would be able to send messages written
with it?

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 19:54:51 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:24:48 -0400
From: fsmeth@solair1.inter.nl.net (Fred de Smeth)

Subscriber Comments: Hi,
I am a heavy user of Lotus Agenda.
Can anybody tell me on which HP palmtops this runs?
Also the latest types?
Grateful for a useful answer.
Regards,
Fred


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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 16:57:12 -0800
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              Mark Larson <larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU>
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Subject:      Need help looking for a CF for 200lx and 360lx
Content-Type: text

I am looking for a Compact Flash for my 200lx and 360lx.  Is any one
else using a CF for both a 200lx and a WinCE machine?

I would like to know what other people are using.

I am looking for a 20-24MB CF w/adapter for 200lx and us the
CF in a 360lx now and then.

Thank you,

Mark

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 19:57:40 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sef@DSE.NL
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From:         Sef Neijens <sef@DSE.NL>
Subject:      Fwd(via AJK): LOTUS 4.6 NOTES Calender?
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:37:22 -0400
From: sef@dse.nl (Sef Neijens)

Subscriber Comments: Looking for software (easy to use) to synchronize
my appointment book (HP200LX 4MB) with Lotus Notes 4.6 Calendar. Can
somebody suggest a solution ?


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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 19:58:22 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Sorry if this is a duplicate, not sure it went thru the 1st time:

--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:37:22 -0400
From: sef@dse.nl (Sef Neijens)

Subscriber Comments: Looking for software (easy to use) to synchronize
my appointment book (HP200LX 4MB) with Lotus Notes 4.6 Calendar. Can
somebody suggest a solution ?


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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 20:01:35 -0400
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:39:40 -0400
From: demagistris@tin.it (demagistris)

Subscriber Comments: the screen of my hp95lx is broken.
how can I do for change it?

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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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              following senders discarded.
From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Fwd(via AJK):broken screen?
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Again sorry if duplicate message...

--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:39:40 -0400
From: demagistris@tin.it (demagistris)

Subscriber Comments: the screen of my hp95lx is broken.
how can I do for change it?

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 18:14:03 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, nancyb@BEST.COM
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      word print drivers

Can anyone tell me where to find printer drivers for
Word 5.5 for DOS?

tia,
n

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 21:05:49 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Corruption (was Re: Re: I am very surprised !!)
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In a message dated 5/20/1999 09:10:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET writes:

> Is there  any good substitute available for CHKDSK?

This won't help with your C: drive, but I periodically pop my flash cards
into my laptop & run ScanDisk against them.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Need help looking for a CF for 200lx and 360lx
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On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mark Larson wrote:

> I am looking for a Compact Flash for my 200lx and 360lx.  Is any one
> else using a CF for both a 200lx and a WinCE machine?
> I would like to know what other people are using.
> I am looking for a 20-24MB CF w/adapter for 200lx and us the CF in a
> 360lx now and then.

Most any CF card will work in both of them.  Personally, I like the Lexar
/ Simple Tech cards, but Sandisk works as well.  Lexar/Simple is faster,
but uses more current... a trade-off you'll have to decide on.

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 09:06:52 -0700
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From:         Ripin Pen <ripin@DNET.NET.ID>
Subject:      Help / Bioryhtm Solver

I am writing a solver to determine my biorhythm as follows:
-------------
!    Are you fit physically, emotionally and intelligently ? !
0*(Date_birth+Physic+Emotion+Brain)+
IF(S(Physic)
 :Physic-100*sin(mod(ddays(Date_birth,Cdate,1),23)/23* 360)
 :IF(S(Emotion)
 :Emotion-100*sin(mod(ddays(Date_birth,Cdate,1),28)/28* 360)
 :Brain-100*sin(mod(ddays(Date_birth,Cdate,1),33)/33*360) )

 )=0
-------------

By above solver, I could only find today's solver (in the range of -100 to
100).  I want n days after today.  I have tried to use functions L(x,alg)
and then g(x) by defining a date (instead of Cdate) as Cdate+n days but then
it didn't work saying "wrong guess" (or sort of that) if n = 5 or more and
if less than 5, it simply returned wrong figure (I cross-checked with
Lotus 123).

To all solver-experts, please help.

TIA

Ripin
e-mail: ripin@dnet.net.id

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Date:         Thu, 20 May 1999 22:35:02 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mark Larson wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a Compact Flash for my 200lx and 360lx.  Is any one
> > else using a CF for both a 200lx and a WinCE machine?
> > I would like to know what other people are using.
> > I am looking for a 20-24MB CF w/adapter for 200lx and us the CF in a
> > 360lx now and then.
>
> Most any CF card will work in both of them.  Personally, I like the Lexar
> / Simple Tech cards, but Sandisk works as well.  Lexar/Simple is faster,
> but uses more current... a trade-off you'll have to decide on.
>

Exactly my experience. I have an (old) 5mb Sandisk and a (newer) 40mb
Simple Tech. I leave the Sandisk in my 200 normally, but swap to the
40mb whenever I have to do `serious' stuff. Seems to be a comfortable
compromise of low current draw (most of the time) and high speed (when
needed)...

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On Thu, 20 May 1999, David Ness wrote:

> Exactly my experience. I have an (old) 5mb Sandisk and a (newer) 40mb
> Simple Tech. I leave the Sandisk in my 200 normally, but swap to the
> 40mb whenever I have to do `serious' stuff. Seems to be a comfortable
> compromise of low current draw (most of the time) and high speed (when
> needed)...

Personally, I haven't found the newer Simple Tech cards to draw as much
current as the old controller did (which also featured an annoying
power-on-or-insertion delay).  But I haven't measured it in a few
months...

The reason, BTW, that the newer Sandisk cards use less current than the
Lexar-controller cards is that the Lexar controller doesn't allow the
200LX to go into light-sleep mode at all.  I don't know why..

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 13:50:57 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP
Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>

Brian McIlvaine writes:
> I have written an DOS application that allows you to use the built in ccMail
> application with your current POP3 email service. It uses Rod Whitby's LXPOP as
> the basis of the communication module, which is how I arrived at the name
> ccLXPOP (spoken Clicks-Pop).

Although the license under which LXTCP is released explicitly allows
anyone to create and distribute derivatives, I just wanted to make it
perfectly clear to everyone that I fully "bless" Brian's use of the
LXPOP source code to create ccLXPOP.

Those who've been around on this list for a while know why I haven't
written such an interface myself (and I don't want to get into that
discussion again - search the archives if you're interested), so I'm
doubly glad that Brian has been able to provide a cc:Mail integration
using my publicly released code.

> 3. It DOES NOT SAVE ANY SIZE over the commercial applications - It is bigger.
> All three apps required (Chat.exe, Epppd.exe Ýpart of the WATTCP system files¨
> and ccLXPOP) total about 190K. But it is smaller than PNR (No offense Rod!).

None taken - that's the whole idea - to take advantage of the size of
the cc:Mail inteface which is already burned into the ROM.

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 14:38:35 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: SECDEV
Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>

"Peter W. Borders writes:
> I was just going to ask if there was such a feature, thanks for the
> pointer. Now another question, I know this is a taboo subject but has
> anyone tried this program under win95? It would be nice to have a
> small program for this sort of security that would work everywhere.

I haven't tried it, but the best things about secdev is that the source
code is included.  I was able to recompile the source code with BC++
2.0.

I shouldn't think that there would be any problem running in on any
DOS-based OS (which, let's face it, Win95 is).

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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 00:22:56 -0500
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              Sharon Rose <sharon_rose@IRISHROSE.COM>
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Dear HPLX list members,

I finally found time to verify WWW/LX's new ability to work with
Metricom and the Ricochet modem (thank you, Andreas & Avi, for
the upgrade) and purchase a modem and service contract. I should
be completely happy now, but for two things.

When I download anything of any size (e-mail message, web page)
using WWW/LX and HV or POST/LX from Metricom over the Ricochet
modem, I get error messages that look like this:
*** 62 interrupt overrun error(s). Baud rate too high?
*** 75 interrupt overrun error(s). Baud rate too high?
*** 88 interrupt overrun error(s). Baud rate too high?

What I have done so far:
1.) Verified nofiddle.com is in c:\util, c:\util is in the path
statement, and 'nofiddle' is in autoexec.bat just before '200'.
2.) Used Datacom to change the modems baud rate from automatic
(ATS304=3D0) to  fixed 9.6 (ATS304=3D9600) and setup WWW/LX to match.
3.) Tried all 40 combinations of DCD (AT&C0 or 1), DTR (AT&D0, 1,
2 or 3) and flow control (AT&K0, 1, 2, 3 or 4) in WWWSetup modem
init string. To test them I connected and loaded the AltaVista or
Yahoo! main pages from links on the default HV home page.
4.) Read every WWW/LX help entry and everything on Metricom's web
site that looked like it might pertain. (The printed documents
that come with the Ricochet are very specific to Windows, and
their electronic manual won't unzip with my unzip utility.)

Results: Every modem init string including AT&K0, 1 or 3 (no or
hardware flow control) worked but got error messages like those
above. Every session using a modem init string including AT&K2
or 4 (software flow control) failed while negotiating IPCP.

What I haven't done: Try a land line serial port modem on my
200LX, or try my Ricochet on another PC.

Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what did you do about
it? If not, any ideas?

The other thing I am unhappy about is that my Ricochet cannot
reach the Metricom network from inside the building where I work,
so I cannot check my personal e-mail on breaks without going
outside in the rain. But I don't expect there's anything that can
be done about that, except wait for summer. :-)

Sharon Rose
sharon_rose@irishrose.com

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 08:35:53 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Sharon Rose wrote:
> modem, I get error messages that look like this:
> *** 62 interrupt overrun error(s). Baud rate too high?

This means that incoming characters get lost because the interrupts
from the serial port cannot be handled. There are several possible
causes for that. The most common one is that the baud rate is set too
high. A normal speed palmtop can handle up to 19200 baud without losing
characters and a double speed up to 38400 baud. The most common other
reason is that some TSR disables interrupts for too long (note that
"too long" means more than about 1/4000 second at 38400 baud!). So if
your baud rate is not set too high, watch the TSRs.

> 2.) Used Datacom to change the modems baud rate from automatic
> (ATS304=0) to  fixed 9.6 (ATS304=9600)

WWW/LX does not care how other programs set up the serial port. It does
set it up itself.

> 3.) Tried all 40 combinations of DCD (AT&C0 or 1), DTR (AT&D0, 1,
> 2 or 3) and flow control (AT&K0, 1, 2, 3 or 4)

This does not affect the interrupts from the serial port. Those
parameters may have significant impact on the connection, but not for
your problem.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 02:49:18 -0400
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Subject:      Re: x-finder long filenames in zip archive
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> I've been trying to add long file names to zip archives. I know that it
> needs to see a file _.xfn with hidden attribs in a directory. Is this =
also
> true of zip archives? How do i get it to automatically add the file to =
the
> zip archive? it seems to want to run pkzip when I add along file name =
but
> it's not succesfull.

The latest upgrade of pkzip (pk250dos.exe) is supposed to
understand long file names.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 10:48:34 +0200
Reply-To:     e-tomcat@sc.bme.hu
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From:         Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
Subject:      Arcnet-Ethernet protocol converter/router

     Hello all,

 This is off-topic, but if you have a surplus Arcnet-Ethernet
 router device, please mail me. I need that to keep alive a
 small ArcNet segment in a big Ethernet-based Netware net;
 no longer directly supported by NW4&5.

 Or if you aware of a simple software, allowing a HDD-less
 machine to act as software router with an Ethernet and an
 ArcNet card; tell me.

       Thanks in advance,
                    Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

 PS: Seems like all the hardware-related discussions died
     on the forum recently! Noone is interested in baclight
     or better sound any more?


____________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 10:08:06 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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If you seriously want to know, and their web site does not publish any
statement, then I'd recommend a real paper letter, followed by the phone.

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 06:15:01 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> Maybe I am wrong, but I always thought Clog=3D was a binary value, =
either 0 or
> 1. It means, clog=3D1 means - yes, clog me with messages and prompts. =
Clog=3D0
> means - No! I don't want to be clogged with messages and stuff...
>
> I read your description but I am afraind I did not understand what the =
problem
> is.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com

Avi,

Here is a clip of my pe.cfg file:

--- begin clip ---

ÝFile¨

; uncomment the following if you don't want to see all the "do you
; really want to..." messages; set it to 2 if you want it to behave
; like 0, but ESC ESC should not exit
Clog =3D 2

--- end clip ---

Clog =3D 2 stops PE from exiting when ESC is pressed one too many times.
In HV I prefer to use ESC to go to the previous web page.  If I have
backed up to the first web page I opened (without knowing), by using
the ESC key, and then press the ESC key once more, HV closes, and my
connection is lost.

I am wondering if it is possible to do the same thing in HV as PE, in
the .cfg file.  I don't want HV to exit if I hit ESC one too many
times, therefore closing my connection, right in the middle of
browsing.

I hope this is clearer.  Thanks in advance.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
Mailer: POST/LX-Registered

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 09:03:53 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 21 May 1999 08:55:51 -0400 (EDT)

06h06m33s ago ...
On Fri, 21 May 1999, Hans Peter Staber wrote:

> The latest upgrade of pkzip (pk250dos.exe) is supposed to
> understand long file names.

Interesting...  I haven't seen this version of pkzip, but would assume
what it understands is Windoze long names.  X-Finder uses its own
method of assigning long filenames, and (if set up right) handles this
transparently with pkzip.  There is a utility on SUPER that translates
Windoze long filenames to XF format.

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 09:58:09 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Help - sudden problem on AC adapter
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Well, I don't have an oscilloscope, but measurements with a DMM showed the
following for the power supply output (for a load I used a 12 V automotive
light bulb, measured at 4 Ohms):

Open Circuit DC voltage: 15.0 V
Open Circuit AC voltage (RMS): 0.01 V
Loaded DC voltage: 7.54 V
Loaded AC voltage: 0.42 V

ÝThe above measurements were made at my home, where the AC line voltage was
123.2 V.  But in my office, where I use this adapter, the AC line voltage is
118.7 V and the Open Circuit DC voltage is 14.89 V and Open Circuit AC
voltage is 0.000 V.¨

So it doesn't appear there's much of an AC component present.  Since this is
the same power supply I have used for years, it leads me to conclude that
either some power device inside the 200LX has blown or there's some
mechanical short associated with the adapter socket (Nuts!).

For any of you with experience in the repair of these machines, is there
some likely single culprit that I could clip out or de-solder and replace
myself?  I have the Torx driver, the patience, the soldering and desoldering
tools; what I need is advice.

Alan Striegel

>From: Phil Drummond
>...
>Put two lantern type (6volt) lamps in series.  Attach them to the output of
>the power supply.  Measure the output of the power supply with an
>oscilloscope and look for "ripple" or any non-direct current component in
>the power supply output.  If you find none, then your palmtop might have a
>problem.

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 14:04:00 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

I've developed a new idea how one can build his own serial port
connector for the HP 100/200 LX / 1000CX / 700LX (?).
This new way for building such a connector is, I think, easier than the
old and the result will be much more solid.
And the needed parts are more common and better available, I think.

If you already know my articles I wrote about making a connector, you
can watch the new one directly at

http://www.palmtop.net/serconn2.html

If you don't know my old articles, please watch them first.
One is regarding only the serial connector,
the other describes how to make a LED light for lightening the display
(the light is plugged into the serial port).

On both pages are links to my new article.

http://www.palmtop.net/serial-howto.html
http://www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html

Enjoy!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 10:03:00 -0400
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Oh, yeah.  In case you think I'm abusing the AC adapter by drawing so much
current from it, this is not an HP palmtop adapter, but a fairly hefty +12V
and -12V supply originally intended for a fiber optic transceiver.

Alan Striegel

>Well, I don't have an oscilloscope, but measurements with a DMM showed the
>following for the power supply output (for a load I used a 12 V automotive
>light bulb, measured at 4 Ohms):
>
>Open Circuit DC voltage: 15.0 V
>Open Circuit AC voltage (RMS): 0.01 V
>Loaded DC voltage: 7.54 V
>Loaded AC voltage: 0.42 V

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 09:42:49 -0500
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Hi all

I have a 2MB LX200 with a 2MB ThinFax/Data card.
I am currently using the "MiniFax" program that came
with the PC card.

Can I directly connect the card to a fax machine and
use it like a document scanner for when I am on the
road.  If so how do I configure it and what is the
best soft ware to use.  Also  how do I convert the
fax image format to something like tiff or jpeg.

Thanks

Phillip J. Allen

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 10:05:22 -0500
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              Jim Harden <james.harden@EY.COM>
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Comments: To: Agentrapid@AOL.COM

how much for the Omnigo 100?

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From:         "Stanley A. Gall, Jr." <sagall@IBM.NET>
Organization: 123
Subject:      Re: Need help looking for a CF for 200lx and 360lx
Comments: To: Mark Larson <larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU>
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Compact flash cards work great in the HPLX using a pcmcia adapter
sleeve.  Go directly to the Sundisk web site.  You can buy direct from
the manufacturer ($169 for 160mb if i remeber correctly) with very good
order/sale support.  I compared their prices with multiple other sites
and theirs are the best by far, especially in the smaller sizes.  The
adapter is $8.
Stan Gall

Mark Larson wrote:

> I am looking for a Compact Flash for my 200lx and 360lx.  Is any one
> else using a CF for both a 200lx and a WinCE machine?
>
> I would like to know what other people are using.
>
> I am looking for a 20-24MB CF w/adapter for 200lx and us the
> CF in a 360lx now and then.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 11:36:30 -0500
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www.sandisk.com has 96mb for $349???

Stanley A. Gall, Jr. wrote:

> Compact flash cards work great in the HPLX using a pcmcia adapter
> sleeve.  Go directly to the Sundisk web site.  You can buy direct from
> the manufacturer ($169 for 160mb if i remeber correctly) with very good
> order/sale support.  I compared their prices with multiple other sites

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 11:54:52 -0500
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Fry's used to sell kits/parts  to make your own db9, db25
connectors. You could buy a little bag of parts intended for the female
plug which crimped on the wire without tools. Might this lead to a
no solder method?

Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> I've developed a new idea how one can build his own serial port
> connector for the HP 100/200 LX / 1000CX / 700LX (?).

> If you already know my articles I wrote about making a connector, you
> can watch the new one directly at
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/serconn2.html

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 14:25:59 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> I recently got a Omnibook 600C ...Ýsnip¨... there is
> always a high pitch wine, and it seems to changed based on what the
> computer is doing.  I don't think it is coming from the hard drive because
> when I remove the hard disk the noise is still there.

The hard drive was my first guess. I have an aging Toshiba 1200HB whose hard
drive continually whines (and occasionally screeches)!

Second guess: Faulty power regulation hardware on the notebook side of the AC
adapter can sometimes set up a buzz that's high-pitched enough to be a whine.
This can be disproven if the whine stops when the notebook is unplugged and runs
on battery.

My $0.02 (Canadian) worth.
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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 18:29:57 GMT
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Ever want to play a FAST game of FreeCell?  Curtis Cameron has
just updated his FreeCell game to version 1.5.  When playing the
game the "S" key toggles between normal speed and a fast speed
where the dice don't roll but switch instantly to their new
values.  Also the "\" key auto selects all valid dice.

Thanks again Curtis!
Russ

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 11:57:45 -0800
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What do you put for the Maximum bytes per message?

The lxtcp.cfg reads: lxpop.maxbytes=-1

Say I what to download message no larger then 24K. What would I put
as the maxbytes?




Regards,

Qman...

HPLX.NET Affiliated
http://qman.hplx.net

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 14:55:24 -0400
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Currently, Samson Cables is auctioning 100/200LX cables and
Yellow Computing's HP Palmtop Software Kit software CD's on
eBay.  If interested, go to the following:

http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&us
erid=cedmunds&completed=0&sort=0&since=-1

You might get a better price by inquiring direct by e-mail.


Also, John A Jeirles <jjeirles@mail.csrlink.net> is selling
new IntelliSync packages, including serial cable.

I have bought from both parties without problem.  But,
proceed at your own risk.

Michael Stocker  <mstocker@neo.rr.com>
HP 200LX / Agenda user

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 14:48:21 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-21 02:57pm CDT, the following was written:

> Say I what to download message no larger then 24K. What would I put
> as the maxbytes?

24 X 1000 = 24000

I think 24000 is right Quinton, give it a try!
73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 23:37:29 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GlaxoWellcome.co.uk>
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Good idea about a paper letter. Phone didn't work though. You have to be
signed up for funded tech support

In message <950F2CFCC55AD211A4750000F845B143019C7D2C@ukz249.ggr.co.uk>,
Brown, William <wdlb5359@GlaxoWellcome.co.uk> writes
>If you seriously want to know, and their web site does not publish any
>statement, then I'd recommend a real paper letter, followed by the phone.
>
>

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 00:39:30 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 21 May 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> On 05-21 02:57pm CDT, the following was written:
>
> > Say I what to download message no larger then 24K. What would I put
> > as the maxbytes?
>
> 24 X 1000 = 24000
>

Wouldn't 24kb be 24x1024 = 24576? ;-)



Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 19:11:39 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: FreeCell v1.5
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              May 21, 1999 at 06:29:57PM +0000
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Russ,

I think you mean Ten Thousand, but we all knew that. :)

I have the new version on SUPER. One of my fave games and the fast play is
really nice especially for meeting lulls.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 16:12:31 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hmmmm... Robert, thanks for teaching me something about PE!!! Good going. I
use it all the time, but it is so rich!

> Clog = 2 stops PE from exiting when ESC is pressed one too many times.
> In HV I prefer to use ESC to go to the previous web page.  If I have
> backed up to the first web page I opened (without knowing), by using
> the ESC key, and then press the ESC key once more, HV closes, and my
> connection is lost.
>
> I am wondering if it is possible to do the same thing in HV as PE, in
> the .cfg file.  I don't want HV to exit if I hit ESC one too many
> times, therefore closing my connection, right in the middle of
> browsing.

Ok, I think I understand. I don't think your will be answered any time soon.
HV is very very problematic for us. There is not room in it for anything,
practically speaking. It is code that Andreas admits he has had to cluge,
butcher, abuse, and bend in many unnatural ways, just to make it fit and cram
the functionality it currently has.

He fears
that even the smallest change will unleash an avalanche of bugs which will
render HV totally useless, and require coding from scratch.

We want to put our resources into areas that our customers indicate to us are
very critical to them, new functionality that they require to do their work.
I'd hate to have to divert from these projects now for a complete rewrite of
HV. This particular program is also, more than any other program we have, a
victim of the "Games Big Boys Play" syndrome.

You see, in the quest for market share, each of the big boys browsers invent
something new about twice a week. The inventions have no standards, they do
not usually comply with standards other than "smother the competitor", and the
Big Boys have another advantages: Thousands (hundreds) of programmers, and
enormous memories - i.e. their bloatwares run in machines with 10M,15M, and
up! My own Netscape Pro takes a whopping 12MB in memory. That means they can
put in code to handle each and every model of the kitchen sinks, toilets, and
anything in between... We do not have that space. Frustrating? You bet.
Andreas owes me at least 50 kicks in the rear end for each time I asked him
this year to fix this, add this and modify that in HV. He just cannot do this
with the limits imposed by the hardware.

Lately, he has been replying to HV update requests from me like so: "Sure! Get
me that 260LX with a 386 and 2MB memory, and I'll do it!" :) ...

I actually tried that too. Lyn Cavendish published a mock letter from HP
announcing a mythical HP 260LX (this was based on the announcement letter of
the Wince 360LX). He outlined in that letter a fantastic sequel machine for
the 200LX. I have taken this to HP with over 150 signatures from HPHAND people
about 2 years ago. Zero response.

I even organized a group of computer executives in several Asian markets to
llok into such a development project. That effort looked promising, at least
as a starting thing, but died with economic upheaval in Asia. My partner in
that, from Malaysia, suffered immensely when his company, financial services
simply died. The executieves we organised in a group were one by one hit hard
when their companies took a hit. Quite a bad scene. So far, there has been no
revival, these good people are still licking their wounds. I hope there is
enough life left in them after the battle to continue. We'll see.

Sorry I have no good news for your immediate issue.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 20:49:38 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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Last week I inquired as to the largest spreadsheet that you can load with
the 200lx. Thanks for the responses I received.

Two questions remain:
Can you set up expanded memory and use it with 123?

When using GDBIO to import a spreadsheet saved as a comma separated field
file, how can you import the lotus date format (35826, for example) as a
DATE and not a NUMBER?

As always, thanks in advance.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 00:55:11 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I think you mean Ten Thousand, but we all knew that. :)

Ack!  Of course, 10K, I must have Freecell on the brain after
finally finishing a really hard game.  (785547)

Thanks for catching my brain-check...
Russ

ps- I just got my first six of a kind in 10K; that's a quick way
to win a game!

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 21:06:45 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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There is a sort of odd discussion going on over in comp.sys.hp48
HP either has announced a successor to the 48, or it has not and
a _very elaborate_ hoax is being perpetrated by a band of the French
users. Does anyone here have any actual `facts' about this? It is
sort of an odd curiosity either way.

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 20:01:46 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-21 05:39pm CDT, the following was written:

> Wouldn't 24kb be 24x1024 = 24576? ;-)

Pickt, picky.... heck it's Friday and it was close enough <g>!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 21:19:28 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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All this talk about the HP48, I have an HP48 GX that is just sitting
here; sorry but I never could get used to it. I would trade this with
someone who knows how to use it better than I do for HP100/200 stuff.
Open to offers. e-mail me off the list.
Thanks! Bryan

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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 22:36:32 -0400
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Robert Hocking <hocking@flash.net> wrote:

> Don't suppose that program ÝACE Technologies BATTman¨
> is available anywhere right?

Since ACE Technologies is gone, I have no idea what happens to
their software.

Actually, BATTman needed the ACECARD driver to do all that I
explained previously.  The two programs talk to eachother.
ACECARD was the flashcard driver that would ask BATTman for
battery state info before doing a flashcard write and BATTman
would ask ACECARD if all flashcard writing was done before
turning off the palmtop in low battery conditions.

ACECARD did at least one other cool thing.  ACECARD would
throttle the speed of the write operations in the flascards
that could do that, such as ACE Technologies Double Flash Plus
cards.  When the batteries were in good shape (new alkalines
or charged rechargeables) as reported by BATTman to ACECARD,
then ACECARD would tell the flashcard's internal controller to
take the extra current it needs to do the writes faster.
Conversely, when BATTman reports the batteris being low,
ACECARD would tell the flashcard controller to write at normal
speed and therefore use less current.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 10:45:44 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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> >From: Phil Drummond
> >...
> >Put two lantern type (6volt) lamps in series.  Attach them to the output
of
> >the power supply.  Measure the output of the power supply with an
> >oscilloscope and look for "ripple" or any non-direct current component
in
> >the power supply output.  If you find none, then your palmtop might have
a
> >problem.
>
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A healthy LX will in fact work quite happily with pure AC on its input
terminals. I have been using a simple transformer type AC adaptor for
years. As I understand it there is a rectifier inside the LX to keep it
from blowing up if you connect the polarity the wrong way around with a DC
supply. This device together with the switched mode supply needed to
generate 5V in effect isolates the LX from the adaptor - so its quality
isn't terribly important.

Hope you get your LX back on the road!

Paul Rasmussen
Avid LX'er.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 10:34:45 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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As an old OB800 user, I remember I was very annoyed. I am 99% certain that
it originates from a switched mode power supply - ie the hardware necessary
to generate stable 5, 12 and backlight voltages. What ususally does the
trick is to open up the unit, locate the small ferite transformers used and
coat them with silicone rubber. Why HP didn't do this? Well, corporations
generally move in mysterious ways!
No, they don't get much hotter, but then again, don't rely on me to
reimburse you when your OB melts! <G>

Sincerely,
Paal Rasmussen

> > I recently got a Omnibook 600C ...Ýsnip¨... there is
> > always a high pitch wine, and it seems to changed based on what the
> > computer is doing.  I don't think it is coming from the hard drive
because
> > when I remove the hard disk the noise is still there.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 12:09:48 +0200
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Quite a while a go I sent a letter (either to the list or directly to Avi)
where I stated that I was having trouble using ABC/LX to charge my palmtop
and that it was causing hang ups. I finally came to the conclusion that the
problem was NOT ABC/LX but something to do with the charging. Well over the
last month or so I have been experimenting with conflicts between charging
the batteries and running all sorts of software while doing so.

The conclusion that I came to is that there is some sort of conflict between
the Turbo C++ v1.0 IDE and charging the batteries on the palmtop.

My memory resident software includes KEYBEZ, and EMM240, and I run Turbo C++
by exitting system manager and then calling Turbo C using 200MNU (Menu
Manager program which writes batch files). I found no problems under normal
circumstances swapping and changing between System manager and Turbo C.
However while charging the batteries I found I had no problem using software
OUTSIDE System manager, however while charging I found that if I ran Turbo
C++ IDE, even just entering and immediately leaving, I found that:
a) Sometimes the machine would "hang" and I would have to reboot.
OR
b) everything would work ok EXCEPT for programs which used keyboard stuffing
to press a series of keys e,g, 200MNU, pns200 and PNR (which would not go
into MEMO when I wanted to write an email).

The problem would be solved by a hard reset (CTRL- SHIFT -ON).

My conclusion is that I shouldnt use the Turbo C++ IDE while charging.

Has anyone else encountered similar problems - clashes between software and
charging?

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 14:16:36 GMT
Reply-To:     wally@pop.uky.edu
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From:         Walter Francis <wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Organization: Completely Disorganized
Subject:      Re: The death and resurrection of my LX
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 18 May 1999 07:46:15 -0700, you wrote:

>I thought that no cards could draw any current from the port when the
>palmtop was off, unless the palmtop is malfunctioning.

Mack explained to me that this is true, in that the palmtop does not
supply power to the port while powered off, however there *is* a
voltage difference (and here comes my assumption) and the internal
resistance could drain power from the palmtop.

I will swear to the fact that PCMCIA modems drains the batteries while
it's off, my old modem would kill the batteries in 2-3 days of normal
use if in all the time, where I would get a week or better if I used
it normally but removed the modem *when off*.  I tested it over
several charge cycles, and not even accounting for power consumption
while the modem is in and the palmtop is on.

Matter of fact, I remember one time I didn't use the palmtop for about
a week (oh forgive me, for I have sinned) with the old modem, and I
backed the palmtop up overnight (thus plugging it into the charger,
thus I *know* I had a full charge on the batteries) and when I went to
turn it on a week later (unplugged and off for a week or so) the
screen just blipped..  Luckily, a recharge later no problems, and I
decided it was a good time to replace the backup battery.  :)  That
told me that 24*7*xmA nearly exceeded my battery capacity, x being the
current drawn by the modem while the palmtop was off..  No offence
Mack, I *know* you *know* what you're talking about... :) :)

The modem I use now happily isn't so noticable, but I assume it also
has the same behavior, but not so drastic as to require removal often.


--

Walter R Francis
http://wally.hplx.net

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 07:54:29 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Charging the batteries & Turbo C++ IDE
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I haven't experienced anything like what you have, but I found that the
Turbo C++ IDE was pretty big and unnecessary on the palmtop.  The
debugging features don't work well anyway... so I just use PalEdit to edit
the source code and then TCC.EXE to compile it.  If you need the online
help (which I often do), you can run the THELP tsr and have it available
at a keypress.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 08:14:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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Subject:      Fluff: Really off topic
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I thought this might be ok.  In case it isn't, please don't reply to the =
list at all.  Send any comments to me directly.

I was hoping you could take some time out off your surfing and vote for =
me in a contest I entered for home automation gear.  Go to the link =
below and click on entry #3280 which is way down the page, near the =
bottom.

http://contest.x10.com/zdnet/contest.cgi?DATE=3D1999-05-20

ENTRY # 3280.

Thanks

Most of you are really technically inclined and my enjoy my website for =
home automation.  Feel free to check out the link in my sig line.

Thanks again.

-Tim=20
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ENTRY # 3280.</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 12:10:57 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Not only is it `off topic', I find it inappropriate.

> Tim Shephard wrote:
>
> I thought this might be ok.  In case it isn't, please don't reply to the list at all.  Send any
> comments to me directly.
>

There's no excuse for this.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 11:26:25 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I will swear to the fact that PCMCIA modems drains the batteries while
> it's off, my old modem would kill the batteries in 2-3 days of normal
> use if in all the time, where I would get a week or better if I used
> it normally but removed the modem *when off*.  I tested it over
> several charge cycles, and not even accounting for power consumption
> while the modem is in and the palmtop is on.

I am afraid you are incorrect as I just performed a simple experiment that
anyone can do with a 12V DC power supply that they can read the current on.
Take out the batteries and hook up the 12V DC supply in place of the
batteries.  See what the current measures when the palmtop is off.  Try
putting in any type of PCMCIA card including modems and you will not see a
difference in the off current no matter what!

I am afraid your battery drain must be accounted for in some other way than
what you suspect.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 12:41:09 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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WHY????  Is there a problem with a fellow palmtopper asking for some support
in a contest that they entered?  Since it started with 'Fluff,' if anyone
didn't want to read it, they didn't have to!

Just my 2 cents.

Sean

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From: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fluff: Really off topic


>Not only is it `off topic', I find it inappropriate.
>
>> Tim Shephard wrote:
>>
>> I thought this might be ok.  In case it isn't, please don't reply to the
list at all.  Send any
>> comments to me directly.
>>
>
>There's no excuse for this.
>
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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 13:41:15 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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The short answer is that it  has no more business here than a discussion
of  (a) political opinions; (b) the abortion debate; (c) gun control;
(d) the Colorado massacre ;  (e) my favorite _very_ deserving charity;
... All of these things _could be_ discussed here and called `Fluff',
but fortuntately the great majority of posters have good taste and
don't do it.

It is also `self-serving', and newsgroups that get in the habit of
condoning self-serving irrelevant chatter often rapidly decline.

Sean Hoger wrote:
>
> WHY????  Is there a problem with a fellow palmtopper asking for some support
> in a contest that they entered?  Since it started with 'Fluff,' if anyone
> didn't want to read it, they didn't have to!
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Sean
>

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 18:52:22 GMT
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From:         Stu Foster <sfml1@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Email wrapping at around 78 chrs...
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I've got into a bit of an argument with a friend of mine regarding
email programs and word wrapping.

Most of the ones I've used automatically add a CRLF after 75-80chrs so
you don't get long paragraphs but is there any RFC standard that
actually requires this ?

Notable exceptions to this are webmail like Hotmail and Yahoo, really
gets to be a pain when replying in POST/LX cause I get one > quote mark
and a 200chr line.

Thanks.
Stuart Foster.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 15:19:21 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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This is a very confusing issue, and I have yet to see a full exposition
of it.

Some `writers' automatically word wrap. Most `readers' can also
automatically word wrap.

When I see very long lines, I have looked at the `source' and usually
find that the original message is in some MIME format that indicates
`quoted text', and---somewhat oddly---the lines are then broken into
reasonable length with `=' as the last char on each line.

Netscape, for one, apparently goes to the trouble to re-assemble these
lines into the long lines you refer to. So whatever is going on is,
at least, not too simple...

I'm not sure this is a contribution to your understanding, but I, too,
would be happy for any further light that gets shed on this (to me)
rather mysterious topic...

Stu Foster wrote:
>
> I've got into a bit of an argument with a friend of mine regarding
> email programs and word wrapping.
>
> Most of the ones I've used automatically add a CRLF after 75-80chrs so
> you don't get long paragraphs but is there any RFC standard that
> actually requires this ?
>
> Notable exceptions to this are webmail like Hotmail and Yahoo, really
> gets to be a pain when replying in POST/LX cause I get one > quote mark
> and a 200chr line.
>
> Thanks.
> Stuart Foster.
>

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 19:21:58 +0000
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From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Message from Your Autobytel.com Accredited Dealer
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Tammy,

Thanks for getting back to me.  The mail server on my ISP (att) has been =
down for the last 2 days while they upgrade the service.

The new car "crisis" for my mother-in-law has now passed as the Buick =
dearler after 3 tries finally seems to have gotten her 1987 Century =
working again.  She seems to be happy for the moment now, but who knows? =
 Anyway she is 85 and doesn't like to change much, so I guess things are =
on hold for now.  If the situation changes I will re-contact you.  Thanks =
for you nice email reply.      =3DBob=3D   Richmond, Va     Purchase =
Request #3313698

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 19:22:14 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Announcement: PALRUN 1.03
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PALRUN 1.03

Thanks a lot Harry, Stefan and Andreas for the "fiddle factor"  =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 19:22:21 +0000
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX interrupt overrun errors with Metricom/Ricochet
Comments: To: Sharon Rose <sharon_rose@IRISHROSE.COM>
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Sharon,

With all that Andreas said, run mem /c at the DOS prompt to look for the =
possible TSR conflicts.  This well tell you what is running in lower DOS. =
  =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 12:36:31 -0800
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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How do you create folders in PNR?

I ask this question because when I press ÝF2¨ Folders, I get:
"There Are No Folders".

<snip>
What are folders?

Any message can be stored in a folder, including your own replies, mail, etc.
Also, external files may also be stored within PNR. These messages can then be
saved to external files, replied to, deleted, etc.

When you save an article you are asked which folder to store it in. Basically,
messages can be stored in groups, just like news.  The subject and author of
the message must be given. If possible, PNR will supply defaults for all these
questions.

<end of snip>



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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 13:12:00 -0700
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              jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM
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      Has anyone been in touch with the person who has the Backlit 200lx on
     the web? http://www.concentric.net/~azusa/200lx.htm

     I am very interested in how he set this up

     Joe

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 22:17:11 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX interrupt overrun errors with Metricom/Ricochet
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Andreas,
> Sharon Rose wrote:
> > modem, I get error messages that look like this:
> > *** 62 interrupt overrun error(s). Baud rate too high?
>
I got the same problem of overrun since my LX came back from
repair, that is, the setup might have changed. However, I set
it up from a flash card backup made before sending the machine
off and the memory contents should be the same as before.

The Baud rate is set to 19200 (my LX is double speed) and the
mem /C command reports:
MSDOS 81,0 KB
WWW 116,7 KB
POST 181,7 KB
COMMAND 2,7 KB
FREE 253,5 KB

The overrun error occurs mostly when I switch from
SC-Workarea 1 with Sysmgr to WA 4 with POST/LX. To get around
it, I used to reboot every time, until I found out that I
could go to EXTERNALS/DOS and execute LXCIC.COM. After
returning to POST the Modem (Thinfax 1414 LXM) runs fine. What
can be the cause for the overrun error ?

Winfried

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 17:14:32 EDT
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First, I appologize.  I didn't know where else to turn.

I'm trying to update my wife's computer from Windoze 3.11 to 98.  In cleaning
out enough space, I accidently deleted the CD-ROM driver, MSCD0001.  Now I
can't load the new OS.

If anyone has the file & could be kind enough to send it to me (off list, of
course) I would be most grateful.  A pointer to a location to download would
be just as useful.  Couldn't find it anywhere myself.

Thanks in advance, and more "I'm Sorry"'s for the bandwidth.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 14:46:56 -0800
Reply-To:     qman@earthlink.net
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Totally Off Topic
Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM

Lynn M. Cavendish writes:
> First, I appologize.  I didn't know where else to turn.
>
> I'm trying to update my wife's computer from Windoze 3.11 to 98.  In cleaning
> out enough space, I accidently deleted the CD-ROM driver, MSCD0001.  Now I
> can't load the new OS.

Hi Lynn,

The CD-ROM drivers (mscdex.exe and your CD-ROM device driver) are loaded from
your config.sys & autoexec.bat.

The needed lines would like some thing like this:

Config.sys
device=c:\sbide.sys /D:MSCD001

Autoexec.bat
c:\mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15

Note: as you can see my CD-ROM is a SoundBlaster and the driver reflects such.

The best thing to do is re-install from the disk that can with your
drive. But if you don't have it I can send you a genetic boot-disk.

HTH


 2



Regards,

Qman...

HPLX.NET Affiliated
http://qman.hplx.net


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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 19:22:37 -0700
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      help: word 5.5

This must be easy, but I'm stumped. (I've only had two
drinks, honest!)

I've opened a text file so that I can format it for
printing. I can't get it to print page numbers. I went
to "Insert", "page numbers". It is set for centered,
.5" from bottom, auto. Since my document bottom margin
is 1",  I also tried 1.5" from bottom. The print-out
looks great, but no page numbers! What am I missing??

tia,
n

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 23:00:19 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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From:         Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: Really off topic
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To All

I really don't want to get into a heated discussion about what is considered
appropriate and what is not, but I think someone taking some pride in
something they have done is not to unreasonable.  I have seen several list
members post when they have had new additions to their families, and I don't
have a problem with it at all.  I for one am interested to some extent of
the happenings in the lives of other list members.  If I wanted a 100% just
the facts and stick to HPLX or else mailing list, then I probably would not
be here.  There is a ton of great information here, but there is also a
certain level of friendlyness that you will not find on other mailing lists.
I am on quite a few technical mailing lists, and this has to be by far the
best because it is informative _and_ interesting.

I for one have done some stuff with home automation using my HP, so there is
a link, and to find out that other list members are doing stuff with X10,
could start a whole new discussion.

Sorry if I'm the only one that feels this way, and if I am, I will keep my
mouth shut from now on.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Fluff: Really off topic


>The short answer is that it  has no more business here than a discussion
>of  (a) political opinions; (b) the abortion debate; (c) gun control;
>(d) the Colorado massacre ;  (e) my favorite _very_ deserving charity;
>... All of these things _could be_ discussed here and called `Fluff',
>but fortuntately the great majority of posters have good taste and
>don't do it.
>
>It is also `self-serving', and newsgroups that get in the habit of
>condoning self-serving irrelevant chatter often rapidly decline.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 23:44:41 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Sean Hoger wrote:
>
> To All
>
> I really don't want to get into a heated discussion about what is considered
> appropriate and what is not, but I think someone taking some pride in
> something they have done is not to unreasonable.  I have seen several list
> members post when they have had new additions to their families, and I don't
> have a problem with it at all.  I for one am interested to some extent of
> the happenings in the lives of other list members.  If I wanted a 100% just
> the facts and stick to HPLX or else mailing list, then I probably would not
> be here.  There is a ton of great information here, but there is also a
> certain level of friendlyness that you will not find on other mailing lists.
> I am on quite a few technical mailing lists, and this has to be by far the
> best because it is informative _and_ interesting.
>
> I for one have done some stuff with home automation using my HP, so there is
> a link, and to find out that other list members are doing stuff with X10,
> could start a whole new discussion.
>
> Sorry if I'm the only one that feels this way, and if I am, I will keep my
> mouth shut from now on.
>
> Sean
>

Taking pride is fine. I take pride in the tennis game I won today.
Do you want to hear all about it? Home automation using your HP is, IMO,
without question `in bounds'. It's not even `Fluff'. `Pride' is
not `in bounds'. It's also not even `fluff' (from the other side).

Babies, tragedies and other genuinely `unique' events are, IMO, Fluff,
but _do_ contribute to the general `humanity' of the discourse here.
I have nothing against that. Such things also tend to be limited by
nature (you, or at least I, can't have babies every day; tragedies are
---fortunately---rare and consolation is important, ...)

However, self-serving `ads' (other than for things that might be of
relevant use to readers), religious proselytization, testimony of
political beliefs, ... are `out of bounds', not because they are wrong,
evil or anything other than the fact that they are `unlimited' by any
sensible bound. If you and I differ in our view of some `hot' political
topic: guns, Monica, abortion, charter schools, we can (and probably
will) argue interminably if we start.

It's best to exercise `taste' and not start, lest we destroy the `core'
reason that we (at least most of us) read the list.

There's fairly active discussion on Compuserve about how unfocussed
UseNet groups tend to be. Way too much spam, too much fluff and a very
high noise/signal ratio. Many Compuserve regulars do not lend their
(very considerable) intelligence to UseNet for these very reasons.
Discussions here could use the intelligence of these people, but they
avoid a presence here because there is already _too much_ junk.

I don't know if it's a fair picture or not, but Deja News (which
doesn't register HPLX because it is a list) registers about 800 of my
messages, and none of yours. Unless you tell me otherwise I suspect this
means that I am much more active on the net than you are. This is
neither good nor bad, but I can say that it may mean that
`irrelevancies' and diversions impact me more than they do you.
When you make judgements about the `burden' of irrelevant solicitations,
spam, etc. please recognize that people who are very active on the net
may be more burdened by these sorts of things than very casual users are.

There's nothing wrong with being a casual user. However, many people use
the net as an important way to access highly informed people, who are
(thankfully) often very active users. If casual chatter, self-serving
requests, spam and other distractions rise above some level, these
people tend to withdraw (they have lots else to do) and UseNet
newsgroups that once served a valuable and productive function become
indistinguishable from a `chat group' (of which, I suspect, there are
plenty already).

Don't keep your mouth shut. Try to contribute, raise good questions,
but also think about the impact of your particular contributions on the
community. Use Kant's imperative: `Act as though you would like
_everyone else_ to act'. If you  don't want everyone to do it, don't do
it yourself...

And soliciting for one's self is boring. Avoid boredom.

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 23:53:41 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Cavendishl@AOL.COM
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Thank for the <off topic> help.
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Thanks to all who helped me solve my CD-ROM driver problem.  My Wife's
computer is now running Win98, and I am out of the Dog House.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 00:01:49 -0400
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              John Chesbrough <JChesbrough@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi. My first post.  Let's see...
I zapped my HP200LX RAM on a battery change.

I've tried to download from my backup, using my Coonectivity software, bu=
t
I get a message "Cannot connect ...."  I have lost my Connectivity Manual=
. =

What do I need?  Maybe the autoxec.bat, maybe some file.  Who knows?
 Thanks
John Chesbrough Perth, Australia

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Date:         Sat, 22 May 1999 23:24:23 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: PNR - Folders?

Quinton Jones, Jr. writes:
> How do you create folders in PNR?
>
> I ask this question because when I press ÝF2¨ Folders, I get:
> "There Are No Folders".


Create folders by saving a message from your inbox.

Ted

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 15:28:21 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Looking for beta testers for LXDNS and LXRSH
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I have uploaded LXTCP 1.2 beta 1 to my web site, and am looking for
beta testers for the two new programs: LXDNS and LXRSH.

        http://rwhitby.hplx.net/beta.html
        http://www.hplx.net/rwhitby/beta.html (for WWW/LX users)

LXDNS allows you to resolve domain names into IP addresses by
contacting your nameserver.  The main reason for including LXDNS in
LXTCP is to allow people to test their nameserver when setting up
LXTCP for the first time.

LXRSH allows you to run a command on a remote Unix host on which you
have a shell account (and which is set up to allow incoming RSH
requests).

There is also some additional information in the LXTCP.DOC file which
should help people troubleshoot an internet connection using LXTCPCFG,
LXPING and LXDNS.

Let me know if they work for you (or if they don't work for you) :-)

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 07:08:17 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Hi All:

07h50m59s ago ...
On Sat, 22 May 1999, David Ness wrote:

> Sean Hoger wrote:
> >
> > To All
> >
> > I really don't want to get into a heated discussion about what is =
considered
> > appropriate and what is not, but I think someone taking some pride in
> > something they have done is not to unreasonable...


Dave wrote:
>
> Taking pride is fine. I take pride in the tennis game I won today.
> Do you want to hear all about it? Home automation using your HP is, =
IMO,
> without question `in bounds'. It's not even `Fluff'. `Pride' is
> not `in bounds'. It's also not even `fluff' (from the other side).
>
> Babies, tragedies and other genuinely `unique' events are, IMO, Fluff,
> but _do_ contribute to the general `humanity' of the discourse
> here...
>
> It's best to exercise `taste' and not start, lest we destroy the `core'
> reason that we (at least most of us) read the list...
>
> Don't keep your mouth shut. Try to contribute, raise good questions,
> but also think about the impact of your particular contributions on the
> community. Use Kant's imperative: `Act as though you would like
> _everyone else_ to act'. If you  don't want everyone to do it, don't do
> it yourself...

     It is my intent to keep the HPLX-L "on topic" as much as
possible. Tim's original post might have been borderline. There are
obviously a number of techno-oriented members on this LIST, and it is
not unreasonable to assume that some would be interested in Tim's
site. Perhaps a brief announcement of the site's URL, and then a
solicitation on the site itself for contest entry might have been more
appropriate. I would like to keep the guidlines for "fluff" fairly
loose. In general, I would say "computer/technology" is OK, Personal
announcements (baby, marriage, new personal WWW page, travel etc...),
are fine as they lend to the personal nature of the LIST. Personally,
I'm always curious about the other LIST members. Politics & Religion
should probably be avoided as they can be too controversial...exception
being Religious(and Political for that matter) texts that are available
for Palmtop use are fair game.

     I would not like to see the "Fluff" make up the majority of the
postings, on the other hand, I'm glad to see Lynn was able to locate
his W98 drivers quickly through the LIST.

     Anyway, those are the policy guidlines I will try to enforce.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 17:58:37 +0100
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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX interrupt overrun errors with Metricom/Ricochet
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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> could go to EXTERNALS/DOS and execute LXCIC.COM. After
> returning to POST the Modem (Thinfax 1414 LXM) runs fine. What
> can be the cause for the overrun error ?

I am not sure what it could be. Don't you need a special driver for
that card? Could it be that one?

You might want to try FIFO=1 in WWW.CFG to enable the FIFO buffer (most
PCMCIA modems support that). This should help in any case because it no
longer needs an interrupt for each single byte.

Andreas

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 10:06:05 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXPOP?
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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> On 05-21 05:39pm CDT, the following was written:
>
> > Wouldn't 24kb be 24x1024 = 24576? ;-)
>
> Pickt, picky.... heck it's Friday and it was close enough <g>!

2.34375%! :)

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 10:05:50 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Corruption (was Re: Re: I am very surprised !!)
Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM
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> > Is there  any good substitute available for CHKDSK?
>
> This won't help with your C: drive, but I periodically pop my flash cards
> into my laptop & run ScanDisk against them.

Copy the 140K or so scandisk.exe from you Windows 95 and use it on the
palmtop. I run mono8025 first, then scandisk.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 10:05:53 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Help / Bioryhtm Solver
Comments: To: ripin@dnet.net.id
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I admijt to only limited experience with solver!

> I am writing a solver to determine my biorhythm as follows:

  Ý...¨

> By above solver, I could only find today's solver (in the range of -100 to
> 100).  I want n days after today.  I have tried to use functions L(x,alg)
> and then g(x) by defining a date (instead of Cdate) as Cdate+n days but then
> it didn't work saying "wrong guess" (or sort of that) if n = 5 or more and
> if less than 5, it simply returned wrong figure (I cross-checked with
> Lotus 123).

Cdate is rendered in the date format you use. If you use YYYY.mmdd then cdate
+n is not a few days forward and back but a few years forward and back. Maybe
that is what the problem is?

Also, can you explain your equation a little bit? What is the purpose of the
":"?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 10:05:40 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Corruption (was Re: Re: I am very surprised !!)
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <Phil_Drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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> Someone once claimed that the scandisk version packaged with Windows95 would
> run on an HP200LX.  I did not believe this, so I tried it.  It does in fact
> work!

Yep!

> Use the DOS version, not the GUI version.  Tell them apart by the graphics.

AFAIK there is just one progrma. If it sees itself in a Windows envorinment,
it goes "waste them cycles"-mode and paints every pixel on the screen.
Otherwise, it behaves like a program, not a cosmetics experts, and does its
thing.

Works fine on the palmtop. about 140K. A bit sparse on the information in the
messages, "like, duh, you have problems, we can fixe them!", or "Hey, you had
two problems in the directories structure, so we fixed it". No names, no
nothing to help you figure out where the problem was, and maybe you have more
coming! It seems to be directed to the dumb, unwashed masses who cannot fix
problems, therefore need no info. (Decision made by some punky programmer in
Redmond about what your brain can do!) Oh well...

But frankly, it runs nicely. It is geared to color screens, so I used mono8025
first, then ran this. Worked nicely.  (Mono8025 is a program on your D: drive
to tuen the screen to monochrome and translate color renditions to something
reasonable in the four glorious colors of a monochrome screen.)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 10:05:36 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Really off topic
Comments: To: Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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> WHY????  Is there a problem with a fellow palmtopper asking for some support
> in a contest that they entered?  Since it started with 'Fluff,' if anyone
> didn't want to read it, they didn't have to!

Perhaps you do not use the palmtop to read the list. It may not be apparent to
you that messages take both time to download and space on the palmtop (space
that is almost always at a premium). In some cases, people actually pay for
the phone connection by the minute.

In most cases, it is very difficult to sort out on the server what should and
should not be downloaded, so it is downloaded and the determination is done on
the client machine. By that time, the "damage" is done, so to speak. The time
was spent, the money was paid, and the space was used.

Sure I can bypass what I do not want to read, I do so anyway, but the point is
that someone's fluff is my expense. It is a bit like getting junk faxes. They
keep your machine busy, you have to sift through the piles to find the good
stuff, and you get to pay for the paper. Perhaps to drive the focus to its
sharpest fineness: How about if we all sent to you 50MB files several times a
day. You don't need to read them :) and it'll be clear: We'll mark them all as
"Don't read". Maybe you use your employer's network, and don't care, but I
suggest that some will probably meander over and have a little er...
discussion with you.

Anyway, I am not personally against fluff on the list. In the recent months
this groups has turned out to be a great place for palmtoppers! I believe that
most people are responsible and won't abuse other people's time, money, and
space. But you seem to naively imply that marking a message as "Fluff" is
sufficient.

Thank you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 10:06:02 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lotus 123
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> Can you set up expanded memory and use it with 123?

Not with the built-in version. That is disabled permanently.

> When using GDBIO to import a spreadsheet saved as a comma separated field
> file, how can you import the lotus date format (35826, for example) as a
> DATE and not a NUMBER?

You have to convert it to your favorite date format on the lotus sheet, i.e.
'1999/05/23 will appear in the cell! Not an easy task.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 12:44:59 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 05-22 10:44pm CDT, the following was written:

> Don't keep your mouth shut. Try to contribute, raise good questions,
> but also think about the impact of your particular contributions on the
> community. Use Kant's imperative: `Act as though you would like
> _everyone else_ to act'. If you  don't want everyone to do it, don't do
> it yourself...

Geesh...... I thought we were one big happy family <g>! Well.... all but
one. Al, could you please step in and make the call so we can all return to
'the way things were', which IMHO was a well balanced (85% HPLX, 15% life in
general) discussion. Mr. Ness, I hope that you can relax a bit, as you seem
quite stressed. Sean, thanks for helping me with the automated mailing to my
*LX* and for the Outlook help. Al, thanks for the list. Mack, thanks for
*everything* and I sincerely apologize for asking for help with Outlook on
the list...... maybe I am just an uneducated internet user....not! I've been
networking since about 1984. I really appreciate the diversity of the list,
which ranges from genius IQ's to those of the average user. There is a place
for all of us. As has been mentioned before, If all will use the 'FLUFF'
header when posting trivial subjects then those like Mr. Ness can apply the
appropriate filter and never have to see the mail, nor be troubled by it!
Now, before I leave, where do we stand on getting the taser built for my LX,
I *really* could have used it last night with a rowdy drunk!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      Megahertz model CC3144

My reserve data/ fax modem from Megahertz has no connecting cable to the
telephone. I have tried to get one from several suppliers but to no avail.
As it is anyhow my reserve modem I am planning to make my own connecting
cable but find by looking into the space for the connector nine copper
contacts (5 on the right side, 4 on the left). As the telephone jack has
only two contacts in use I wonder if somebody could tell me to which of the
nine pins I have to connect. Or has somebody a spare cable?
Thanks to my new speling chucker this message is error feer.

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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>Use Kant's imperative: `Act as though you would like
>_everyone else_ to act'. If you  don't want everyone to do it, don't do
>it yourself...


That was Jesus, wasn't it?

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Is it possible to run a .exm program from a batch file?

example:

c:\pnr\EPPPD file PPPD.CFG
lxnntp
termin 0x60
pnrti
pnr.exm


Lookning forward to any replies

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 20:31:55 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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I don't mind a bit of off topic Fluff. The worst part is the
discussion about how appropriate the original topic was.  In
this case I'm kind of neutral on the original topic but I can do
without all the pro/con followup discussions.

cheers... Russ

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              Chris Yeager <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
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yes but a tad different... Look in the Macro Zone for answers....
----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones, Jr. <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:00 PM
Subject: Batch file?


> Is it possible to run a .exm program from a batch file?
>
> example:
>
> c:\pnr\EPPPD file PPPD.CFG
> lxnntp
> termin 0x60
> pnrti
> pnr.exm
>
>
> Lookning forward to any replies
>
> Regards,
> Qman..
>
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 23 May 1999 17:46:24 -0400 (EDT)

01h44m40s ago ...
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:

> Is it possible to run a .exm program from a batch file?
>
> example:  <snipped>...

Hi Qman-

Try getting RUN from SUPER.  This will let you start .EXMs from DOS (if
system manager is running).  AFAIK it doesn't work in raw DOS.

To use it, put run.exe in your path, and change the last line of the
batch to      run pnr.exm

Should work...

HTH

-Peniel
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Radical.... I will look for it.... Thanks...
----- Original Message -----
From: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Batch file?


> Sun, 23 May 1999 17:46:24 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 01h44m40s ago ...
> On Sun, 23 May 1999, Quinton Jones, Jr. wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to run a .exm program from a batch file?
> >
> > example:  <snipped>...
>
> Hi Qman-
>
> Try getting RUN from SUPER.  This will let you start .EXMs from DOS (if
> system manager is running).  AFAIK it doesn't work in raw DOS.
>
> To use it, put run.exe in your path, and change the last line of the
> batch to      run pnr.exm
>
> Should work...
>
> HTH
>
> -Peniel
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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 18:05:17 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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From:         Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
Subject:      Omnibook 425
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 anyone interested in a Omnibook 425 sub-notebook $120 + ship

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 07:30:34 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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From:         Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Awsome Machine!
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At 2:49 AM -0700 5/16/99, A Meshar wrote:
> > Any hard facts on larger memories for Hp 200 Lx? Avi I am a bit
>jeoulse...mine is
> > currently a 1 mb...
>
> Well, it will probably hurt if I said that now I have 2 64MBs and one 32MB,
> right? Well, I won't say that then. :)
>
> If you have a burning desire, I can even do the upgrade for you. Send me a
> 200LX, and some $$$ and I'll take care of it. I feel confident now to the the
> work, having done my own machines several times, just to practice...
>
> The most useful machine to upgrade is a 200LX 2MB, because you really end up
> with a 66MB, 64 plus 2MB. The 4MB machine takes you doen to 64 + 2MB, so you
> lose 2MB. The 1MB is 64 + 1 after the upgrade.
>

Assuming that its a recent vintage 200lx with 2 MB on the motherboard as
opposed to an early one like mine (or the upgraded unit I bought from
Thaddeus).

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 15:48:31 -0800
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Try getting RUN from SUPER.  This will let you start .EXMs from DOS (if
system manager is running).  AFAIK it doesn't work in raw DOS.

To use it, put run.exe in your path, and change the last line of the
batch to      run pnr.exm

Should work...
>>>

Thanks -Peniel, run did the trick. (:-)

Also Keystuff works for great for the built-in apps, but the doc's only have
the 100LX's keycodes.

Now if somebody would send the the 200LX keyboard keycodes, I'll be set. (:-)

BTW: keycodes and scancodes are different animals.

example: on the 100LX \@ is cc:Mail and on the 200LX its \@ is Quicken.




Regards,

Qman...

HPLX.NET Affiliated
http://qman.hplx.net


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If it is working, I will take it.

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

Sputnik wrote:
>
>  anyone interested in a Omnibook 425 sub-notebook $120 + ship
>
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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 21:12:22 -0400
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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I've got into a bit of an argument with a friend of mine regarding
email programs and word wrapping.

Most of the ones I've used automatically add a CRLF after 75-80chrs so
you don't get long paragraphs but is there any RFC standard that
actually requires this ?

Notable exceptions to this are webmail like Hotmail and Yahoo, really
gets to be a pain when replying in POST/LX cause I get one > quote mark
and a 200chr line.

Thanks.
Stuart Foster.

Yeah, but in POST you can just set it to wrap long lines. Just a couple keys
when a message like that comes up.

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hi Andreas,

<<Version 1.03 of PALRUN is now available at ftp.dasoft.com in the MISC
directory as palrun.zip.>>

Is it possible to add a default palmtop MENU key for the desktop.
Different programs have different MENU key mappings for the desktop --
eg I always forget PE's and I can't find if there is one in HDM.

Thanks.

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              99 10:06:02 am
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> You have to convert it to your favorite date format on the lotus sheet, i.e.
> '1999/05/23 will appear in the cell! Not an easy task.

Unless I completely missed the question, seems like this is an easy thing.
If you have a cell with the date string, you just use the DATEVALUE
function in an adjacent column:

A1:  '06-Mar-98
B1:  @DATEVALUE(A1)

If you want the B1 cell formatted as a date, just use the /RFD1  to
format it (you may use the date formatting style of your own chosing).

Am I missing something?

-Chris

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Rian,

You are right!  I messed up.  I didn't mean for this to go to the list.  =
Sorry list.     =3DBob=3D

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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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>
> > Someone once claimed that the scandisk version packaged with
> Windows95 would
> > run on an HP200LX.  I did not believe this, so I tried it.  It
> does in fact
> > work!
>
> Yep!
>
> > Use the DOS version, not the GUI version.  Tell them apart by
> the graphics.
>
> AFAIK there is just one progrma. If it sees itself in a Windows
> envorinment,
> it goes "waste them cycles"-mode and paints every pixel on the screen.
> Otherwise, it behaves like a program, not a cosmetics experts,
> and does its
> thing.
>

The DOS version is scandisk.exe (should be in C:\Windows\Command)
The Windows version is scandiskw.exe (should be in C:\Windows)



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 21:50:29 -0500
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I am having a problem deleting most recent entry.  DEL key is dead.
BACKSPACE key doesn't work either (in this program).  Anyone else using
LXMusic and having similar problems?

Les

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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
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> > Can you set up expanded memory and use it with 123?
>
> Not with the built-in version. That is disabled permanently.
>
> > When using GDBIO to import a spreadsheet saved as a comma separated field
> > file, how can you import the lotus date format (35826, for example) as a
> > DATE and not a NUMBER?
>
> You have to convert it to your favorite date format on the lotus sheet, i.e.
> '1999/05/23 will appear in the cell! Not an easy task.
>

When you import the numbers corresponding to dates, the only thing you need to do to get
them to show as dates is to key the following    /RFD (Menu/Range/Format/Date) then
select the date display you want  (option 1 will show 35826 as 31-JAN-98 while option 4
will show 01/31/98).  Select the range you want formatted to display dates - A1..A365 for
example to show the full year.  Adjust the column width and you are in business.


Best Regards,
Mike Melancon

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Batch file?
Comments: To: "Quinton Jones,Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>

"Quinton Jones, Jr. writes:
> Is it possible to run a .exm program from a batch file?
> pnr.exm

Another way to skin this cat is to use the DOS pnr.exe program (which
is the same program, except it's not an EXM and can't do copy/paste).

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 09:17:24 +0930
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Subject:      Re: Batch file?
Comments: To: "Quinton Jones,Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>

"Quinton Jones, Jr. writes:
> Also Keystuff works for great for the built-in apps, but the doc's only have
> the 100LX's keycodes.

I have modified the keystuff source code to use 200LX keycodes.  If
someone can contact the author, then we I might be able to distribute
the modified code (he didn't release it under the GPL, so I can't
automatically distribute modified code).

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 03:53:41 +0000
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> Also Keystuff works for great for the built-in apps, but the doc's only have
> the 100LX's keycodes.
>
> Now if somebody would send the the 200LX keyboard keycodes, I'll be set. (:-)

Yes, unfortunately, keystuff was never officially updated for the
HP200's codes.  Also, it needs a bit of patching to work well with
Buddy, if I recall correctly.

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Subject:      Re: Help / Bioryhtm Solver

A Meshar writes:
> I admijt to only limited experience with solver!
>
> > I am writing a solver to determine my biorhythm as follows:
>
>   Ý...¨
>
> > By above solver, I could only find today's solver (in the range of -100 to
> > 100).  I want n days after today.  I have tried to use functions L(x,alg)
> > and then g(x) by defining a date (instead of Cdate) as Cdate+n days but then
> > it didn't work saying "wrong guess" (or sort of that) if n = 5 or more and
> > if less than 5, it simply returned wrong figure (I cross-checked with
> > Lotus 123).
>
> Cdate is rendered in the date format you use. If you use YYYY.mmdd then cdate
> +n is not a few days forward and back but a few years forward and back. Maybe
> that is what the problem is?
>
> Also, can you explain your equation a little bit? What is the purpose of the
> ":"?
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
Avi,
Thanks for your tip.  My date format is mm.ddyyyy and then I realise that I
should add "0.1" instead of "1" as n.  But I still can not resolve for the
problem like following:
Cdate = 5.241999 (today in Indonesia with format of mm.ddyyyy)
n = 0.10 (means 10 days from today)
Cdate+n will give a result of 5.341999 !!
So my question is how I should put as n so that Cdate+10 days will result
properly 6.031999

BTW ":" is same function as ","

Tks

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:19:33 -0700
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Subject:      y2k and quicken

tried to use year 2000 (00) in quickens capital gain reports and it would
not take 00 as a year anybody have any ideas/ solutions?
thanks
scott

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 08:06:56 +0300
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              "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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Hello!

I am trying to install it on windows NT but the setup is not starting.
some one had it before?

Thanks  Yehuda


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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 23:29:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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How about entering the full year 2000?

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
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http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 9:29 PM
Subject: y2k and quicken


>tried to use year 2000 (00) in quickens capital gain reports and it would
>not take 00 as a year anybody have any ideas/ solutions?
>thanks
>scott

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 08:45:58 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Hal Goldstein wrote:
> <<Version 1.03 of PALRUN is now available at ftp.dasoft.com in the MISC
> directory as palrun.zip.>>
>
> Is it possible to add a default palmtop MENU key for the desktop.

This is mainly what I commented out. It was in 1.02 and made the
program unstable. It lead to frequent crashes. Maybe I find time to
look into the code and find out what it is. The main problem is that
for this I need a desktop, which makes the time frame I can work on it
really tiny.

> Different programs have different MENU key mappings for the desktop

If you try /, ALT-M and F11, you will cover 99%. Also, if it were in
Palrun, you would have to memorize *what* it is for Palrun :-) And if
that keystoke is used for something else in a program, this will cause
a conflict.

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Date:         Sun, 23 May 1999 20:09:24 -0800
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QMan...

Batch files can't fire off an EXM file. They only know about .EXE, .COM,
..BAT files and the built in commands.

However, to do what you want, try something along these lines.

c:\pnr\EPPPD file PPPD.CFG
lxnntp
termin 0x60
pnrti
REM stuffkey (or an equivalent keystuffer)+ keycodes to be stuffed to fire
up PNR.EXM
REM the above line is a remark telling what the actual line will do.
200
>>>

Thanks ed.,

I figureded out the needed keycodes and KeyStuff works great.
For both .exm and the built-in Apps.





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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 02:32:20 -0800
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"Quinton Jones, Jr. writes:
> Is it possible to run a .exm program from a batch file?
> pnr.exm

Another way to skin this cat is to use the DOS pnr.exe program (which
is the same program, except it's not an EXM and can't do copy/paste).
>>>

No thanks! The run combo works just fine. (:-)




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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 13:41:05 +0300
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              "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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Hello!

Does some one know of outlook calendar and appointment  convert and sync
with the 200lx?

Thanks  Yehuda


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Date:         Fri, 21 May 1999 13:25:27 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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>
>Mark Larson wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a Compact Flash for my 200lx and 360lx.  Is any one
>> else using a CF for both a 200lx and a WinCE machine?
>>
>> I would like to know what other people are using.
>>
>> I am looking for a 20-24MB CF w/adapter for 200lx and us the
>> CF in a 360lx now and then.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Mark

look on www.buycomp.com they have sandisk CF cards up to 96MB. The 48MB
card is $119.00 + adapter for $6.99.

Owen

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 09:49:29 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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HI everyone,


> > Also Keystuff works for great for the built-in apps, but the doc's only ha
> ve
> > the 100LX's keycodes.
> >
> > Now if somebody would send the the 200LX keyboard keycodes, I'll be set. (
> :-)
>
> Yes, unfortunately, keystuff was never officially updated for the
> HP200's codes.  Also, it needs a bit of patching to work well with
> Buddy, if I recall correctly.

What is the difference between keystuff and exkey. I don't use
keystuff but I guess it is for stuffing keys into they keyboard
buffer. Exkey has been especially written for the HP200lx and I
did never experience problems in combination with buddy.

Reinhard



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Subject:      WWW/LX interrupt overrun errors and TSRs
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> You might want to try FIFO=3D1 in WWW.CFG to enable the FIFO buffer

I would like to know more about all these power user setup
features of the WWW/LX package. Is it possible to release a
POWERWWW.DOC file describing all undocumented features of the
product. I don't want to have support for them, I simply want
to be aware of them and need to know, where I should put them
in the CFG files.

Concerning TSR's causing overrun errors, only those TSR's are
critical, which hook into the user timer tick and hence run
18x per second doing their task. This slows down the overall
performance of the palmtop and indeed also the interrupt
handling. Usually you don't know, which TSR hooks into the user
timer tick. I for my part will tell you, which of my TSR's may
cause an interrupt overrun error:

-SLEEPON
 uses the timer tick to do it's own light sleep/deep sleep
 countdown, disabled by win3.0. Use it only while running
 win3.0, don't put it into your autoexec.bat

-LIGHTON
 uses the timer tick to constantly check if the wired serial
 power is still on.

Completely save are LXPRO and NUMLOCK, because they only hook
into the keyboard interrupt and run exclusively when their hot
key is detected.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 07:20:06 -0400
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Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.Super.NET> wrote:

> The time taken to _open_ a PIM file does not bug me, it is the much longer
> time taken to _close_  the file that discourages me from closing files all
> the time

You should install the FASTDB.TSR utility program to help
speed up file closings.   It is available on the SUPER site.
Follow the instructions and put the file in the C:\_DAT
directory.  Also modify your AUTOEXEC.BAT file (or whichever
BAT file launches SysMgr from Software Sarousel) to set the
current drive to C: before starting SysMgr.  For example, if
your BAT files ends with the line

200

then insert a line with C: on it before the 200.  Like this:

C:
200

We discovered that SysMgr doesn't seem to load the FASTDB.TSR
if your AUTOEXEC.BAT is on the A: drive and you don't change
the current drive to C:.


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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 13:59:18 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 24 May 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.Super.NET> wrote:
>
> > The time taken to _open_ a PIM file does not bug me, it is the much longer
> > time taken to _close_  the file that discourages me from closing files all
> > the time
>
> You should install the FASTDB.TSR utility program to help
> speed up file closings.

As I see it, FastDB would only make the problem worse. Quoting the FastDB
manual:

"FASTDB intercepts all calls to the database garbage collection,
and forstalls them until the file is closed.  Instead of multiple
calls to compress the file throughout its use, you only suffer through
one while closing the file."

Surely, if all the garbage collection is stalled until the file is closed
it will take longer to close than if gc was done along the way?

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 08:06:40 -0400
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I have it running under Windows NT 4.0 svpk 4.0 with no problem I have not
tried the new release. I did initially install it under Windows 3.11 then
copy it to a IOmega Zip disk where I now run it from. What problems/errors
are you having with it?

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernst, Yehuda ÝSMTP:yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 01:07
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      transfile
>
> Hello!
>
> I am trying to install it on windows NT but the setup is not starting.
> some one had it before?
>
> Thanks  Yehuda
>

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 20:48:04 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Isn't there this side effect with FASTDB of the file size getting larger
every time one opens the application even if no data is added? I remember
an article in the PalmtopPaper to this effect.

Anand.

At 07:59 PM 24-05-99 Monday , Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>On Mon, 24 May 1999, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
>> Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.Super.NET> wrote:
>>
>> > The time taken to _open_ a PIM file does not bug me, it is the much longer
>> > time taken to _close_  the file that discourages me from closing files all
>> > the time
>>
>> You should install the FASTDB.TSR utility program to help
>> speed up file closings.
>
>As I see it, FastDB would only make the problem worse. Quoting the FastDB
>manual:
>
>"FASTDB intercepts all calls to the database garbage collection,
>and forstalls them until the file is closed.  Instead of multiple
>calls to compress the file throughout its use, you only suffer through
>one while closing the file."
>
>Surely, if all the garbage collection is stalled until the file is closed
>it will take longer to close than if gc was done along the way?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Laust

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 08:22:54 -0500
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> Sorry if I'm the only one that feels this way, and if I am, I
> will keep my
> mouth shut from now on.
>
> Sean

You are NOT the only one !

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 08:12:37 -0500
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              Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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>You should install the FASTDB.TSR utility program to help
>speed up file closings.

It's my understanding that FASTDB only speeds up the "interim" garbage
collection (i.e. changes to records) performed by you on the database.
However the actual closing of (i.e. exiting from) the file is not faster,
and may in fact be longer.

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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX interrupt overrun errors and TSRs
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> I would like to know more about all these power user setup
> features of the WWW/LX package. Is it possible to release a
> POWERWWW.DOC file describing all undocumented features of the
> product.

I can send to you a list of those features, but I don't want to make
them public and instead tell people about them if they need something
special. Even if we say "no support", people will ask us and ask us and
ask us and ask us.

> Concerning TSR's causing overrun errors, only those TSR's are
> critical, which hook into the user timer tick and hence run
> 18x per second doing their task.

Not only those TSRs can cause overrun errors, but all TSRs that either
server a hardware or software interrupt and don't restore interrupts
soon enough can cause it. And also all of those that disable
interrupts. So basically any TSR can cause it.

> I for my part will tell you, which of my TSR's may
> cause an interrupt overrun error:

I doubt that any of those can cause the problem because they don't do
complex work that takes a lot of time.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 18:46:37 +0200
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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups
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Longden Loo wrote:
> Ý...¨
> Everyone has their own solution for this. usually using incremental backups,
> with some people tracking data back for years.  To me this is rock solid, but a
> bit more work and resources than I'd like to commit when a simple nightly
> detection or scan of the databases might just tell me (or my backup program)
> that something's amiss.

I'm currently working on a solution where the backup would be sent to
a host computer (a Unix desktop computer in my case), converted to a
text
format and then checked in into CVS or RCS.  This would allow me to keep
any data record forever with tracking about when the record was added
and possibly deleted.  Also, corruptions could possibly dedected this
way.

The solution might look something like this:
1. lxbackup to mirror the entire HP-LX disc to the Unix machine
2. exporting all DB file records in text format to a CVS work tree
3. checking-in the CVS work tree into the CVS repository

Step 1 and 3 are finished and well thanks to the fine work and
generosity of other people.

Step 2 is under development.  A few minutes ago, I uploaded version 0.07
of the HP200LX::DB Perl package to CPAN (the announcement will followin
in separate posting).  This package already contains a utitliy script
catgdb.pl which has the necessary dump option.  What's missing are a
method to load the data again (this is under preparation) and the
necessary glue to automate the backup/export/check-in cycle.  Also,
I'm not quite sure yet about whot the export format should look like.

Suggestions are welcome ;)

+gg

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 10:06:22 -0800
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>Does some one know of outlook calendar and appointment  convert and sync
>with the 200lx?

Yehuda, check out the:

Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter
The first pass of a converter which will convert
Outlook Contacts to the PDB or GDB format for the 100/200LX.

It Can be found at: http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

HTH


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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 19:11:33 +0200
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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Appointment Book Data Creep
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Loran Brooks wrote:
> I noticed that the appointment file on my 200 has data from appointments
> that have long been deleted.
> Ý...¨
> 1.  Why is this old data still in my appt.adb file?

Deleted items are just marked as garbage and will be reused later on.
The reason for this is that the appointment book manages index pointers
between individual records and deleting one item would require the
application to possibly fix all index pointers in all other records
by carefully examining *every* remaining record.

Therefore, the deleted items are kept in their slots to avoid
reorganizing
the whole database.  These slots will be reused for new entries.
This is simply a trade-off between time (to rearrange the database)
and space (to keep deleted items around).

Deleted or checked-off instances of recurring events need to be kept in
the database just that the application knows it was deleted.  Actually,
checking-off a recurring entry duplicates it.

> 2.  Is it making my appt file larger than it needs to be (answer seems
> obvious)?

Since deleted items are reused, your database will *not* really grow
indefinitely.

> 3.  Has anyone run into this problem and what solutions have been
> proposed?

This works as designed, so it seems ;)  If this turns out to be a
problem,
you would need to develop an application which ripps the database appart
and recreate the whole thing, carefully fixing all pointers between
records.  This is not entirely impossible but it could be argued that
it might not be worth the trouble.

If you are interested in details about the ADB file structure, take a
look
at the latest version of "ADB: appointment book database format" at
  http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/pub/english.cgi/41413/150731

> Looking forward to your responses.

I hope this helps.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:28 -0500
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              "Nickum, Roy H." <NickumRH@BV.COM>
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I am having a strange problem & hope the considerable expertise on this list
can point out my error.  I have zoom running (w/moreexm).  However, It
behaves strangely.  It works as long as my flash card is NOT inserted.  If
the flash card IS inserted, I just get two low pitched beeps followed by one
higher pitched beep. Does anyone have an idea what is going on?

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 14:08:16 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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>> You have to convert it to your favorite date format on the lotus sheet,
i.e.
>> '1999/05/23 will appear in the cell! Not an easy task.

>Unless I completely missed the question, seems like this is an easy thing.
>If you have a cell with the date string, you just use the DATEVALUE
>function in an adjacent column:

>A1:  '06-Mar-98
>B1:  @DATEVALUE(A1)


Chris,
Although that approach conflicts with the earlier question regarding
spreadsheet size, that is excellent! I had forgotten about that. (I usually
use Lotus 123 97 and am now quite spoiled since dates are handled
automatically)
Thanks for the post.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 11:11:40 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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Subject:      Re: zoom & moreexm
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Check that the path statement in the moreexm.ini file, located in your
C:\_dat\ directory has the full path to your zoom.exm

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
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From: Nickum, Roy H. <NickumRH@BV.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 10:52 AM
Subject: zoom & moreexm


>I am having a strange problem & hope the considerable expertise on this
list
>can point out my error.  I have zoom running (w/moreexm).  However, It
>behaves strangely.  It works as long as my flash card is NOT inserted.  If
>the flash card IS inserted, I just get two low pitched beeps followed by
one
>higher pitched beep. Does anyone have an idea what is going on?
>
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My HP power supply has become intermittent.  I believe that it is a cable
failure right at the strain relief.  Can anyone tell me how to get the case
open so that I can cut out the bad section and reattach the cable?

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<I am having a strange problem & hope the considerable expertise on this list
<can point out my error.  I have zoom running (w/moreexm).  However, It
<behaves strangely.  It works as long as my flash card is NOT inserted.  If
<the flash card IS inserted, I just get two low pitched beeps followed by one
<higher pitched beep. Does anyone have an idea what is going on?

Try moving a copy of your autoexec.bat, config.sys, moreexm.exm and morexem.ini
onto your flash card. It works for me.

HTH



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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 19:03:24 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups
Comments: To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at
In-Reply-To:  <3749826D.8752F9AC@zechine.wu-wien.ac.at>; from Gerhard Gonter on
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1999-05-24-16:46:37 Gerhard Gonter:
> I'm currently working on a solution where the backup would be sent to a host
> computer (a Unix desktop computer in my case), converted to a text format
> and then checked in into CVS or RCS.

If you finish tools to rebuild the databases from the dumps, I'll be keen to
pursue that approach. But until then, I've been very happy with CVS tracking
of the raw image. Now that I'm working off a laptop that happily takes my
FLASH card, the backup has been reduced to:

        rsync -va --delete /flash/. ~/hp/
        CVSROOT=~/cvs me=$LOGNAME d=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S` \
                cvs -q import -m "Backup of $me HP @ $d" -kb hp $LOGNAME a_$d

or thereabouts. As CVS accurately tracks binary files, this seems to work
fine. If ever I can convert the binary database formats to a text format which
can be automatically reconstituted into the original binary formats, I can
retroactively convert all my CVSed history.

-Bennett

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 21:46:15 +0200
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Subject:      Perl module HP200LX::DB version 0.07 uploaded to CPAN
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The Perl module familiy HP200LX::DB and HP200LX::DBgui version 0.07
should be available from any CPAN mirror near you soon.  It was
uploaded earlier today and confirmed by the CPAN daemons:

  The uploaded file hp200lx-db-0.07.tar.gz has entered CPAN as
  file: $CPAN/authors/id/G/GG/GGONTER/hp200lx-db-0.07.tar.gz
  size: 51772 bytes
   md5: db03e4b26ffe9e86892c46c868c9c31f

This release contains a couple of improvements and bug fixes and
a bit better error and constraint handling.

1. General DB handling, module DB.pm:
   a. DB header loader, analyzer, packer improved.
   b. load DBs whithout lookup table; the lookup table is missing
      if the DB was created by exporting or by some other tool
      and if the DB was open while it was saved.  The decoder loop
      was isolated for possible new applications.
   c. A few problems with the handling of time stamps were identified
      and fixed.
   d. $db->dump_type () method implemented for raw exports in text format.
   e. update attribute introduced, will be used in saveDB in the future.

2. ADB handling
   a. DOC: More details and clarifications about the ADB file format.
   b. recurrence objects now have constructor, packer and decoder
      methods.  The deocder was isolated from the constructor.
   c. new module DB/adb.pm to encapsulate some aspects of ADB files.
      Some code was isolated from catadb.pl

3. Scripts
   a. catgdb.pl -summary
      write one line summary about the database
   b. catgdb.pl -dump
      Dump the contents of all DB records (data and other parts)
   c. catadb.pl
      some code was transfered to DB/adb.pm

4. DBgui.pm
   a. Applied patches by Rod Whithby for better Perl/Tk compatibility.


Next Steps planned for version 0.08:
1. Use of dump_type method for CVS/RCS based version control e.g.
   as a backup and archival facility.
2. ADB importer: Creation of ADB data records and possibly complete
   databases.
3. catadb.pl -format yahoo
   ... to export ADB files in Yahoo! Calendar format.
4. DB.pm enhancements
   a. use of update attribute for automatic refresh of view points upon save
   b. importer to re-create DB from the output of catgdb.pl -dump
   c. constructors and loaders for other elements of the database.
      At some time, it should be possible to create a DB from scratch
      without using pre-fabricated templates.

Work in progress without specific releas plans:
1. More example scripts will be made available if time permits, e.g.
   a. getps.pl: a tool to fetch the "Pocket Standard", an online-edition
      of the Austrian newspaper "Der Standard" for the Palm Pilot
      which is the dumped into a GDB file using a pre-edited template.
2. A multiplexer module which encapsulates a collection of DB file
   into one object.  I'm not sure what this is good for yet, but
   it might be usable for web servers, query tools or who knows what ;)
   Maybe this will be useful for a DBI::DBD driver module.
3. Scripts dealing with LDIF and vCard, iCalendar objects are currently
   in their infancy, maybe the grow up to be released some time...

I hope the software is useful for your purposes, but use it at your own
risk!  Feedback, e.g. bug reports, fixes and other suggestions are
welcome.  Especially, the "catgdb.pl -dump" and RCS/CVS facilities
are of great interest for me, suggestions in this area are very much
welcome!

+gg

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 20:04:51 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> Fry's used to sell kits/parts  to make your own db9, db25
> connectors. You could buy a little bag of parts intended for the female
> plug which crimped on the wire without tools. Might this lead to a
> no solder method?

If you can make your own DB9/DB25 plug without soldering, it's good,
but the plug which is plugged into the HP... I don't think that there's
any way to do it without soldering.
The two ways I found require soldering and I can't imagine one which
does't repuire it.
Sorry.

GtX
daniel


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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 15:15:13 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fluff: Really off topic

> The short answer is that it  has no more business here than a discussion
> of  (a) political opinions; (b) the abortion debate; (c) gun control;
> (d) the Colorado massacre ;  (e) my favorite _very_ deserving charity;
> ... All of these things _could be_ discussed here and called `Fluff',
> but fortuntately the great majority of posters have good taste and
> don't do it.
>
> It is also `self-serving', and newsgroups that get in the habit of
> condoning self-serving irrelevant chatter often rapidly decline.
>

But by responding to the list, instead of privately as the original
poster advised, you have already contributed 3 times as much waste to
the list as the original poster. Also, given that this is your
personal opinion of the original post, you have posted a self-serving
message so I guess we are doomed to decline.

Pete

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 15:46:43 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: New serial connector for HP LX!
In-Reply-To:  <199905242004.UAA00286@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> from "Daniel
              Hertrich" at May 24, 99 08:04:51 pm
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> If you can make your own DB9/DB25 plug without soldering, it's good,
> but the plug which is plugged into the HP... I don't think that there's
> any way to do it without soldering.
> The two ways I found require soldering and I can't imagine one which
> does't repuire it.

As an electrical engineer, I can easily see how the HP end of such a
connector could be not soldered - crimp or IDC, for example.  Many
cables are made this way.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 16:12:26 -0500
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Help Please!

I was trying to connect to my ISP (for the first time) with my 200LX.  In
the process the machine froze up and won't respond to the keyboard.  How do
I restart the machine without losing my data on the RAM disk?

Jason Crawford

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 14:26:15 -0700
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Left shift + ctrl , hold these two then press on

After it restarts, carefully answer NO to reinitialize C: drive.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
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From: Crawford, Jason <jcrawford@TAMU.EDU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:23 PM
Subject: HELP! - HP200LX Hung Up


>Help Please!
>
>I was trying to connect to my ISP (for the first time) with my 200LX.  In
>the process the machine froze up and won't respond to the keyboard.  How do
>I restart the machine without losing my data on the RAM disk?
>
>Jason Crawford
>
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On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tim Shephard wrote:

> Left shift + ctrl , hold these two then press on
> After it restarts, carefully answer NO to reinitialize C: drive.

Although often when it's frozen like that, or when it simply won't turn
on, pressing shift-ctrl-on will initialize the C: drive by default.  But
at this point it's most likely the only way out, so... I suppose the only
thing we can do is say "good luck."

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 16:36:06 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Lotus 123

Wow, tried the "@datevalue" and it worked.

Today Ý24-MAY-99¨ = 36304, I'm not a "datevalue guy," how does it get that
number (how does 36304 relate to the day/month/year)?

I'm used to "Julian Date" where we take the "9" from 1999 and plunk it in
front of the number of the day of the year Ýtoday would be 9144, this may
not be the "proper" way to do it, by some conventions, but it is an old Army
way *and* not Y2K compliant, I think many of our Julian date apps use 99144
now....but I can "see" how that one is assembled¨.

Also--
Did a quick subtraction, today's datevalue - yesterday's date value is fine
Ý= one day¨, 24-MAY-02 isn't fine, is this one of the reasons folks say the
LX is partially Y2K non-compliant?  Is there a fix ÝI know Lotus is burned
into ROM ... is there a TSR we could/should run or just not use Lotus for
date dependent things that span the 99-00 mark?¨

I was just about to do all sorts of things using this @function, but if it's
only going to work for 6 more months.....

If this datevalue thing is in the manual, just tell me and I'll go home and
look it up ;-)
Help ÝF1 and some paging around¨ just said:
     "@DATEVALUE(string) calculates a datenumber for a string that looks
like a date"

TIA,

--tim
<<admitting in advance to using spreadsheets for "lower math" only ;-) >>

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 09:48:04 +1200
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Subject:      Re: Lotus 123
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It's days since 01/01/1900

Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh


Tim Raymond wrote:
>Today Ý24-MAY-99¨ = 36304, I'm not a "datevalue guy," how does it get that
>number (how does 36304 relate to the day/month/year)?

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 15:09:50 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 25 May 1999, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> It's days since 01/01/1900

At least, theoretically.  Actually Lotus 1-2-3 has a bug because it
thought 1900 was a leap year, so if you put in 59 as a date it'll show up
as 28-Feb-00 and 60 will be 29-Feb-00.  Since, of course, 1900 was NOT a
leap year, you've got a "phantom day" in there if the date you're using is
after day 59 (which, of course, most of the dates we 1-2-3 users are
going to be using, are).

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 15:15:35 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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As someone already mentioned, 123 dates are calculated based on the number of
days since 1/1/1900, and the doc on the @DATE function says its good till
12/31/2099 (this was in my 123 v2.3 guide on @Functions and Macros).

As for 24-MAY-02,  now that you know 123 is 1900-2099 aware,  that date
represents 5/24/1902.

To enter 2002, you'd have to use @datevalue("24-MAY-102").

And BTW Lotus 123 on our LX is Y2K compliant... even if it does mess up on
2/29/1900.

- Longden





"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL> on 05/24/99 02:36:06
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Subject:  Re: Lotus 123




Wow, tried the "@datevalue" and it worked.

Today Ý24-MAY-99¨ = 36304, I'm not a "datevalue guy," how does it get that
number (how does 36304 relate to the day/month/year)?

I'm used to "Julian Date" where we take the "9" from 1999 and plunk it in
front of the number of the day of the year Ýtoday would be 9144, this may
not be the "proper" way to do it, by some conventions, but it is an old Army
way *and* not Y2K compliant, I think many of our Julian date apps use 99144
now....but I can "see" how that one is assembled¨.

Also--
Did a quick subtraction, today's datevalue - yesterday's date value is fine
Ý= one day¨, 24-MAY-02 isn't fine, is this one of the reasons folks say the
LX is partially Y2K non-compliant?  Is there a fix ÝI know Lotus is burned
into ROM ... is there a TSR we could/should run or just not use Lotus for
date dependent things that span the 99-00 mark?¨

I was just about to do all sorts of things using this @function, but if it's
only going to work for 6 more months.....

If this datevalue thing is in the manual, just tell me and I'll go home and
look it up ;-)
Help ÝF1 and some paging around¨ just said:
     "@DATEVALUE(string) calculates a datenumber for a string that looks
like a date"

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 17:30:42 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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  Ok Andreas, here's a radical idea...  How about using the actual "Menu"
key that's on most Win95 enhanced keyboards?  It's just left of the right
control key on most keyboards....  (No, I don't know off-hand how difficult
it might be to intercept it, but it seems the obvious choice...)

    ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Garzotto Ýmailto:garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH¨
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Announcement: PALRUN 1.03
... snip ...
>
> If you try /, ALT-M and F11, you will cover 99%. Also, if it were in
> Palrun, you would have to memorize *what* it is for Palrun :-) And if
> that keystoke is used for something else in a program, this will cause
> a conflict.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 15:40:59 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Robert:

> > The most useful machine to upgrade is a 200LX 2MB, because you really end up
> > with a 66MB, 64 plus 2MB. The 4MB machine takes you doen to 64 + 2MB, so you
> > lose 2MB. The 1MB is 64 + 1 after the upgrade.
> >
>
> Assuming that its a recent vintage 200lx with 2 MB on the motherboard as
> opposed to an early one like mine (or the upgraded unit I bought from
> Thaddeus).

There is no way to be sure about the motherboard just from the serial number,
unless you have a machine from the box, that has never been worked on or
serviced by HP or anyone.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 08:26:02 +1000
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              Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
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Roy,

Your best bet is to go down to Tandy and buy oneof their Chinese made 1000ma
AC adapters. That rating is enough to drive PCcard modems without draining
your batteries. Take out a 3 year warranty for $10. They will replace
defective inits no questions asked.

It's just that, as has been commented on this list before, if you are
continually packing up your adapter and moving from power point to power
point, the wires will break. You will get symptoms of "intermittent
adapter/battery" appearing on your 200lx. Locating and repairing the damaged
area is difficult, not like a garden hose. It's easier justto swap for a new
one.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 08:03:17 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Megahertz model CC3144
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Isn't there a place like "lptop cables" that specializes in obscure
cables/dongles/etc. for such puropses - I saw the site once, but
don't have a URL anymore...

Maybe someone has the link,

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:21 PM
Subject: Megahertz model CC3144


>My reserve data/ fax modem from Megahertz has no connecting cable to the
>telephone. I have tried to get one from several suppliers but to no avail.
>As it is anyhow my reserve modem I am planning to make my own connecting
>cable but find by looking into the space for the connector nine copper
>contacts (5 on the right side, 4 on the left). As the telephone jack has
>only two contacts in use I wonder if somebody could tell me to which of the
>nine pins I have to connect. Or has somebody a spare cable?
>Thanks to my new speling chucker this message is error feer.

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 18:40:09 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Off-Topic: help w/y2k

Sorry to bother the list with this but I need some expert advice.

I have a Gateway 486 with a Phoenix 80486 GJX30-05E (ver .10) bios that
fails the Y2K tests.  It rolls over to 1900.

The PC is used for both W95 and Linux (2.2.5).  My research indicates
three options for correcting the problem but I'm uncertain as to which
will work best.

The options as I see them are:

1)  hardware BIOS correction (will they work with Linux; which is best),
2)  flash the BIOS with an upgrade (where should I get the upgrade if I
go this route),
3)  manually roll the date over (seems the cheapest but does it really
work reliably and permanently).

As I mentioned, I need a solution that will work in Linux as well as W95
so the software solutions don't seem feasible.

Sorry again for the post on this list.  Replies off-list would be
appreciated.

Larry Zimmerman

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ÝCopied to HPLX-L in case others didn't know that you can use LXCIC to
identify which card you've got inserted in your PCMCIA slot.¨

Stefan,

I am using LXCIC (which is the best thing since sliced bread, and has
worked flawlessly for me ever since you released it) to identify which
PCMCIA card is inserted, so that my TCP/IP connection script can use
either PPP via the modem, TCP via the ethernet card, or PPP via the
serial port.

LXCIC returns 06 for the ethernet card, 04 for my flash card, and 02
for my modem card (all as expected).  The trouble is that when no card
is inserted, it still returns 02.

Can you change LXCIC to return a unique value when no card is inserted
(maybe 255) ?

BTW, can I convince you to release the source code to LXCIC ?  This
would be a great resource to those who want to be able to do things
with the PCMCIA hardware.  I release the source code to all my HP200LX
programs, and often get thanks from people who have used it to the
create other freeware programs for the benefit of the HP200LX
community (such as ccLXPOP).

Please consider releasing the source code to LXCIC.

Many thanks,

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Date:         Mon, 24 May 1999 21:30:09 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX interrupt overrun errors and TSRs
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Stefan,

> I would like to know more about all these power user setup
> features of the WWW/LX package. Is it possible to release a
> POWERWWW.DOC file describing all undocumented features of the
> product. I don't want to have support for them, I simply want
> to be aware of them and need to know, where I should put them
> in the CFG files.

I hope NOT! My issue is to make sure that we are remaining stable financially.
If such a document is released it will instantly create a huge workload for
our Tech Support and I am afraid it may destabilize the company. There are a
set of well tested and stable parameters and they are released and provided to
the customers.

Myny other parameters work in extremely specific situations, but most people
will simply take the opportunity and play with everything (I like to do that
too! :-¨ ...) and that may cause much more headaches than necessary, and
provide almost no benefit to anyone.

When we have specific situations that are solved by certain parameters, we
release them (check the paramters to be used with Ricochet Modems!) We use
parameters as fixes to some very specific situations when necessary.

I know this sounds a little strange, but it is reality...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 09:00:41 +0300
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              "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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From:         "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: outlook calendar
Comments: To: "qman@EARTHLINK.NET" <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hello !

does this program converts also calendar and appointments?

Thanks  Yehuda


-----Original Message-----
From: Quinton Jones, Jr. Ýmailto:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 9:06 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: outlook calendar


>Does some one know of outlook calendar and appointment  convert and sync
>with the 200lx?

Yehuda, check out the:

Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter
The first pass of a converter which will convert
Outlook Contacts to the PDB or GDB format for the 100/200LX.

It Can be found at: http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

HTH


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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 03:38:57 -0400
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              Peter Prime <pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU>
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From:         Peter Prime <pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU>
Subject:      FreeCell 947293

     Hi all,

     My wife and I have whiled away many pleasant hours with Curtis
     Cameron's FreeCell (many thanks, Curtis).

     However, we have both been stymied by game no 947293.

     Quite a few hours have gone into this game, and we are starting to
     feel it is not solveable. We have not been beaten by many hundreds of
     games to date.

     We are looking forward to hearing other views on this game.

     Cheers,

     Peter and Pam Prime
     Bacchus Marsh, Victoria, Australia

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 12:02:13 +0200
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              "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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Has anyone experiences in using the MSDOS tool power.exe on the Palmtop? I have the line

     DEVICE=A:\TOOLS\POWER.EXE ADV:MAX

in my config.sys. When I type 'power' on the DOS prompt, I receive following answer:

CPU: sleeping 68%

I asked myself, if this little tool really can enhance the battery lifetime. Any experiences?

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 12:46:00 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: LXCIC - return value when no card is inserted is 02
Comments: To: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com>
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Rod,

> LXCIC returns 06 for the ethernet card, 04 for my flash card, and 02
> for my modem card (all as expected).  The trouble is that when no card
> is inserted, it still returns 02.

I did that intentionally because some modems have no function id
tuple implemented and I was asked, if I could set the default
value to modem, so that someone with a flash card and a modem
card without function id support could still use lxcic to
detect his modem. But I will find a work around, because I can
check, if any card is inserted at all or not, and if not, I can
return a special value. Let me see what I can do.

> BTW, can I convince you to release the source code to LXCIC ?  This
> would be a great resource to those who want to be able to do things
> with the PCMCIA hardware.  I release the source code to all my HP200LX
> programs, and often get thanks from people who have used it to the
> create other freeware programs for the benefit of the HP200LX
> community (such as ccLXPOP).
>
> Please consider releasing the source code to LXCIC.

You convinced me, I will release the source code. Just give me
some time to translate my german comments into english. I guess
you know it is written in assembler and optimized for size, so
this is no easy to understand code, but anyway, it may be useful
to some of you.

Stefan

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 18:34:39 -700
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: Megahertz model CC3144
Comments: To: khansen@njcc.com

Would be fine if somebody came up with the URL of this place. Making the
connector will be a hard job because the place to work in is very small and
the contacts are very close together.
On 1999-05-24 khansen@njcc.com said:
 kh>Isn't there a place like "lptop cables" that specializes in obscure
 kh>cables/dongles/etc. for such puropses - I saw the site once, but
 kh>don't have a URL anymore...
 kh>Maybe someone has the link,
 kh>HTH,
 kh>Ken
 kh>khansen@njcc.com
 kh>-----Original Message-----
 kh>Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:21 PM
 kh>>My reserve data/ fax modem from Megahertz has no connecting cable
 kh>>to the telephone. I have tried to get one from several suppliers
<snip>


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A nice thing to use Windows for is to cut and paste parts of flies.

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 12:09:12 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> 2)  flash the BIOS with an upgrade (where should I get the upgrade if I
> go this route),

Checkout Unicore, they have lots of upgrade Bios; it where I got
my LBA upgrade Bios for my 486 years ago.  I think they're at
www.unicore.com.

> 3)  manually roll the date over (seems the cheapest but does it really
> work reliably and permanently).

Even with that old upgrade I'll have a small problem 1-1-2000.
What I'll have to do is manually set the date to 1-1-2000 and
reboot because while Dos rolls over ok it doesn't set the
hardware clock correctly.

I only have to worry about about Dos though, not Win or Linux.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 08:17:21 -0400
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              bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM
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A brief update on the testing of ccLXPOP:

I have received emails from three people who have successfully setup ccLXPOP,
and no emails from people who said they couldn't - but then how would I get the
email? <g>.

I have fixed the problem with large numbers of messages causing a crash.
Remember Shakespeare's warning in Julius Ceasar: "Beware the Ides of March and
dynamically allocated variables" (this was later edited since Shakespeare was
obviously well ahead of his time).

There was a problem that if you received more than one file in a doownload,
they would all be titled the same thing - I was going to call this a "feature
to reduce confusion", but decided I had just better fix it.

Finally, address book functions (using the address book for entries, and
including LISTS) work smoothly and well. If I sound like I am happy with it,
it's because I am -I now NEVER have to exit the system manager to do email,
don't have to mess around with MAXDOS, and can keep several applications open
while doing so (Appt Manager, FFDB, and phonebook).

I'll let the alpha testers bang on it a while more while I cleanup the
documentation file, but if anybody can't wait, let me know and I'll send it to
you.

Brian

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 23:44:22 +1000
Reply-To:     "LnC.Phillips@bigpond.com" <LnC.Phillips@bigpond.com>
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From:         Leon Phillips <LnC.Phillips@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject:      Modems that Work on the HP200LX

I have been a member of this list for a number of months but have not
offered any input up until now.   May I say however that I find the list
extremely informative and I am quite impressed with the enthusiasm and
support that is shown in this virtual community.

Having stroked most of your egos, may I ask a question of the list?   Is
there a consolidated list of PCMCIA modems that work on the HP200LX?   I
know there used to be a hardware data base at http://www.netline96.it/hplx/
but I get errors when I try and access the 'View PCMCIA modem reports'
section.  Is that info still available somewhere?  If not, would people be
kind enough to let me know what modems works (off list if that's the
correct protocol)?

I am planning to buy a modem off ebay and collect it when I visit the USA
in early June as the prices are so much cheaper.

Thanks in anticipation


Leon Phillips
40 Brudenell Drv
JERRABOMBERRA  NSW 2619
AUSTRALIA

Hm: 02 6299 8005
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 07:27:57 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Modems that Work on the HP200LX
Comments: To: "LnC.Phillips@bigpond.com" <LnC.Phillips@bigpond.com>
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Have a look at

     http://www.cewindows.net/

Chris De Herrera has a FAQ section titled "PC Card Modem Power", which lists
card modems of various makes and models.

He also shows a compatibilty column and lists the HP100/200 for various modems,
but I'm not sure how up to date he is on those since he's mostly a WinCE person
these days...tho the modem list is updateable by others as well.

Just remember that you want one that doesn't go much beyond 150mA.

I use the XJ1144, XJ3144 and SimpleJack 33.6 Communicator Lite.

- Longden





Leon Phillips <LnC.Phillips@BIGPOND.COM> on 05/25/99 06:44:22 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Modems that Work on the HP200LX




Having stroked most of your egos, may I ask a question of the list?   Is
there a consolidated list of PCMCIA modems that work on the HP200LX?   I
know there used to be a hardware data base at http://www.netline96.it/hplx/
but I get errors when I try and access the 'View PCMCIA modem reports'
section.  Is that info still available somewhere?  If not, would people be
kind enough to let me know what modems works (off list if that's the
correct protocol)?

I am planning to buy a modem off ebay and collect it when I visit the USA
in early June as the prices are so much cheaper.

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 16:51:08 +0000
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From:         "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
Subject:      Re: HELP! - HP200LX Hung Up
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I am agree with David. I am a developing several applications using
the HP200 and i have to test them many times anytime & anywhere.

In several times, my hp hungs up hardly. When i pressed the
shift+ctrl+on keys, the machine erased all my data. So, be careful
and good luck !!!

____________________________________________

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Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
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Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 08:51:02 -0600
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I was wondering if anyone knows how to modify the field in the Phone =
Book
application. I would think it would be similar to modifying a data base =
in
the Data Base application. To do this, you go under File, Modify =
Database.
Unfortunately, there' s no similar command under the Phone Book =
application.
=A0
Any ideas?
=A0
Tom

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 17:05:48 +0200
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <stelem@IBM.NET>
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If you don't know much about the subject line, but would like to, I found
this site interesting:
http://www.option.com/guide/htm

HTH

Etienne

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 07:49:14 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Change the extension of the file to gdb and modify in database.  Then change the
extension back.

Dan




Tom Lange wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows how to modify the field in the Phone Book
> application. I would think it would be similar to modifying a data base in
> the Data Base application. To do this, you go under File, Modify Database.
> Unfortunately, there' s no similar command under the Phone Book application.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Tom
>
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Etienne Lemaire wrote:
>
> If you don't know much about the subject line, but would like to, I found
> this site interesting:
> http://www.option.com/guide/htm

This site is even more interesting, because it't there:
http://www.option.com/guide.htm

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 19:43:03 +0100
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Tom Lange wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knows how to modify the field in the Phone Book
> application.

Rename it from PDB to GDB, open it in the database application and
modify it, then name it back to PDB. Make a backup first!

Andreas

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>I was wondering if anyone knows how to modify the field in the Phone Book
>application. I would think it would be similar to modifying a data base in
>the Data Base application. To do this, you go under File, Modify Database.
>Unfortunately, there' s no similar command under the Phone Book application.


In Database press Open ÝF9¨, in the "File To Open" box change "*.GDB" to:

"*.PDB" or "*.*"

then select your phone book file. You know the drill if its in another
directory.

Then ÝFile¨ ÝModify Database¨

HTH


Regards,


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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 13:51:09 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Modifying Phone Book

>I was wondering if anyone knows how to modify
the field in the Phone Book application.

>Unfortunately, there' s no similar command under
the Phone Book Change the extension of the file to
gdb and modify in database.  Then change the
extension back.

Just go into DATABASE and ask (change GDB) for PHONE.PDB
and you will be able to do it as if it were a GDB.
(RTFM) You don't have to change name physically.

yor pal al....................

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 15:02:08 -0400
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Subject:      X-finder hot key assigments and other questions

Does anyone know if it's possible to assign hot keys to specific icons on
xfinder? I like to be able to press one key to access an app. I'd like it to
be assigned to the Icon and only work when that Icon is showing (IOW not
global the way ',' key is assigned for renaming.)

Example: pressing A gets you appointments


Also:

Is there a way to keep persistent filter settings on a directory? I would
like to be able to apply filters for specific directories and have the
setting persist when i leave the directory or rerun xfinder.


Thanks

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 14:23:29 -0500
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Bob and Andreas,

Thanks. I didn't realize mem had any switches. The bad actor turned out =
to be the driver for my Thin Fax EXP card. I guess I shouldn't be surprise=
d, as it conflicted with Stacker, too.

Sharon Rose
sharon_rose@irishrose.com


> Sharon,
>
> With all that Andreas said, run mem /c at the DOS prompt to look for =
the
> possible TSR conflicts.  This well tell you what is running in lower =
DOS.
>   =3DBob=3D
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 15:43:58 -0400
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Subject:      any HP95 Faqs/resources out there?

I just picked up a 95 w/out docs and can't even get to dos!! I figured it
would be something like the 200 but it is way more primitive. Does anyone
know where I can aquire a user manual or other helpful docs?



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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 20:21:34 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Sean, Hi friends,

> Sorry if I'm the only one that feels this way, and if I am, I will keep my
> mouth shut from now on.

You aren't the only one who thinks this way!
As you can see, I call all members of the list 'friends' since some
time.
I wouldn't do this if I only wanted to hear strictly HPLX-related stuff
here and if I wouldn't appreciate this friendliness in this list.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 20:21:45 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: New serial connector for HP LX!
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Hi Chris, Hi friends,

> As an electrical engineer, I can easily see how the HP end of such a
> connector could be not soldered - crimp or IDC, for example.  Many
> cables are made this way.

As a student of electrical engeneering, I haven't seen these ways for
making a plug for the HP by now.

Hmmm. Or have I seen them?
OK, I have seen it for many kinds of connectors inside a PC (hard disk,
floppy... all connectors with flat cable for data transferring).
Do you mean this kind of connection?

It could work for the HP plug, but I think it was a little bit too less
solid. What do you think?
If you pull this constuction out of the HP's serial port, it could be
easily damaged.

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 20:21:30 GMT
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Hi friends,

Some of you asked me. if it's possible that I make some LED lights
(these ones that you plug into the serial port and enlighten the display
of the LX with) and sell them. I always answered, that I don't have
the time to do this.

Now (since I'm a liitle bit more experienced in making the lights) I
decided to make a few of them and sell them to those of you who want to
have one.

You can have a look at this light at

http://www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html

I've calculated a provisional price of abt. 35 US$, this includes all
costs:

* the needed parts (abt. 10 US$)
* the needed working time (how much is time worth?)
* the full costs of an international money order (abt. 10 US$)
* shipping to anywhere in the world (abt. 3.5 US$)

(Yes, I make a profit by this deal, but I found it reasonable:
I've spent a lot of time developing the light, making the instructions
you can see at the above URL, and I need time for making every single
light for those of you who want one - you see: there's much time
'included' in this little light.)

So: If you want me to make such a light for you, please email to me:
d.hertrich@gmx.de

If I get too many requests, I will let _you_ decide who gets one and
who not. I'll make an email address list of all people who were
interested (say in a week) and keep all members of this list informed.



GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 16:29:39 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: any HP95 Faqs/resources out there?

Actually, I just got it for kicks. I have 200-32 and it's very useful. I
toyed with the idea of giving the 95 to my wife but I may use it in the
office as a portable terminal for configuring Cisco routers. I was just
surprised at the different look and feel to the thing. the 100/200 was a
real step up in terms of ergonomics and features.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theis P. Hansen Ýmailto:pbk2606@pbk.dk¨
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 4:23 PM
> To: HPLX Mailing List; Ed Padin
> Subject: Re: any HP95 Faqs/resources out there?
>
>
> On Tue, 25 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > I just picked up a 95 w/out docs and can't even get to
> dos!! I figured it
> > would be something like the 200 but it is way more
> primitive. Does anyone
> > know where I can aquire a user manual or other helpful docs?
>
> You can get a manual from Thaddeus ($15)
> http://www.PalmtopPaper.com
>
> I have just taken over my fathers 95 a couple of months ago -
> Can't help
> wondering: Are there any hackers left, or have they/you(?)
> all migrated to
> 100/200 ?
> I have a bit trouble finding info on the machine - how much is 100/200
> only, how much applies to the 95 as well!?
>
> Well - I'll keep looking :-)
>
> Theis
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 13:31:44 -0800
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Can somebody/anybody give a reason & fix as to why a exmbatch  might not
always run? It appears that the palmtop some times looses the path to the
program.

Some times it will run just fine from the assigned hot key. But when it won't
I can open & close its assigned directory with Filer and retry its working
again.

Explainions & suggestion please!


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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 22:22:33 +0200
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              "Theis P. Hansen" <pbk2606@PBK.DK>
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On Tue, 25 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> I just picked up a 95 w/out docs and can't even get to dos!! I figured it
> would be something like the 200 but it is way more primitive. Does anyone
> know where I can aquire a user manual or other helpful docs?

You can get a manual from Thaddeus ($15)
http://www.PalmtopPaper.com

I have just taken over my fathers 95 a couple of months ago - Can't help
wondering: Are there any hackers left, or have they/you(?) all migrated to
100/200 ?
I have a bit trouble finding info on the machine - how much is 100/200
only, how much applies to the 95 as well!?

Well - I'll keep looking :-)

Theis

>
>
> Thanks
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 13:49:34 -0800
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This is a Re-post, I was a little to quick on the send key. (:-)
Anyway the question still stands.
>>

Can somebody/anybody give a reason & fix as to why a exmbatch file might not
always run? It appears that the palmtop some times looses the path to the
program.

Some times it will run just fine from the assigned hot key. But when it won't
I can open & close its assigned directory with Filer and retry its working
again.

Explainations & suggestions please!


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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 17:28:18 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 25 May 1999 17:14:52 -0400 (EDT)

02h12m43s ago ...
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Ed Padin wrote:

> Does anyone know if it's possible to assign hot keys to specific icons =
on
> xfinder? I like to be able to press one key to access an app. I'd like =
it to
> be assigned to the Icon and only work when that Icon is showing (IOW =
not
> global the way ',' key is assigned for renaming.)
>
> Example: pressing A gets you appointments

Sort of... but not really a hot key.  In incremental search mode (I
think it's the default), hitting "a" moves to the first file starting
with that letter.  You can hit a second letter, or the down arrow to
move to others with the same first letter.  Then ÝEnter¨.  In the
/Palmtop screen it moves between icons - in file list screens it jumps
to the file.

Hmmm - actually there's no need for an Appointment icon - just use the
blue key.  (I know - I should take my own advice...)

The other option would be to edit the key assignments to launch your
choice of apps.  Normally they would use shifted keys, but if you
select Command Mode in the Key Mode (%n) parameter you can start from
the key.  But this will be a global option - not what you want.


> Also:
>
> Is there a way to keep persistent filter settings on a directory? I =
would
> like to be able to apply filters for specific directories and have the
> setting persist when i leave the directory or rerun xfinder.

Don't think so...  Near as I can see the settings don't persist -
return to *.* if you leave the directory and return.

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 14:50:05 -0800
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I am using Cc:LXPOP to send this message.  I have received messages OK now I am
trying the next step.

Brian,

I don't have your e-mail address on the palmtop. I'll copy it over a shoot some
messages.

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 20:07:48 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: X-finder hot key assigments and other questions
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net>

> Does anyone know if it's possible to assign hot keys to specific icons
on
> xfinder? I like to be able to press one key to access an app. I'd like
it to
> be assigned to the Icon and only work when that Icon is showing (IOW
not
> global the way ',' key is assigned for renaming.)
>
> Example: pressing A gets you appointments

>Sort of... but not really a hot key.  In incremental search mode (I
>think it's the default), hitting "a" moves to the first file starting
>with that letter.  You can hit a second letter, or the down arrow to
>move to others with the same first letter.  Then ÝEnter¨.  In the
>/Palmtop screen it moves between icons - in file list screens it jumps
>to the file.


Aha! I thought that it had bug because the arrow keys didn't work right
after pressing a letter. This may work out for after all. Damn! why is it
that some of the most useful programs are the more difficult to configure? I
am making progress, however. Every day I learn a little more about xfinder.


Thanks.




snipt

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 21:39:01 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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>Wow, tried the "@datevalue" and it worked.

>Today Ý24-MAY-99¨ = 36304, I'm not a "datevalue guy," how >does it get that
>number (how does 36304 relate to the day/month/year)?


1 is 01JAN1900, 2 is 02JAN1900 and so on.
36305 is today (25MAY1999)

What is also useful is you can use 36305.5 to indicate 1200 25MAY1999...

Lotus uses 01JAN1900 as the base date, and I believe Excel uses 01JAN1904.

Pretty neat stuff, but I had forgotten how to covert it to text, so I am
thankful for Chris for his answer.

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 18:40:47 -0700
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Ed Padin wrote:
>
> I just picked up a 95 w/out docs and can't even get to dos!! I figured it
> would be something like the 200 but it is way more primitive. Does anyone
> know where I can aquire a user manual or other helpful docs?
>
> Thanks
>
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Ed!! you can get a manual from Thaddeus computing phone #1-800-373-6114

                 HP95LX,HP200LX USER
                        BOB1

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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 21:26:05 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: New serial connector for HP LX!
In-Reply-To:  <199905252021.UAA20166@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> from "Daniel
              Hertrich" at May 25, 99 08:21:45 pm
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> > As an electrical engineer, I can easily see how the HP end of such a
> > connector could be not soldered - crimp or IDC, for example.  Many
> > cables are made this way.
>
> OK, I have seen it for many kinds of connectors inside a PC (hard disk,
> floppy... all connectors with flat cable for data transferring).
> Do you mean this kind of connection?
>
> It could work for the HP plug, but I think it was a little bit too less
> solid. What do you think?
> If you pull this constuction out of the HP's serial port, it could be
> easily damaged.

You're confusing the technique for making electrical contact with that
for physical strain relief.  I have seen military qualified connectors
that use either solder or crimp methods for making contact, and a separate
mechanical method for providing strain relief.  I have no idea how a
"real" HP serial connector is constructed internally, but I can almost
guarantee you that the plastic molding around the cable as it leaves the
connector provides the strain relief - NOT the solder or crimping of
the wires.

Also, IDC stands for Insulation Displacement Connector - these are
often used inside computers, as you observed.  Even they have a method
of providing strain relief, though I admit I've often seen it omitted.
Also, these types of cables experience a low number of mate/unmate
cycles compared to something like the HP serial connector.  Here I'm
refering to the typical header/ribbon style cables used in computers,
and not IDC technology in general.  IDC can be lumped in with soldering
and crimping - it is a technique for making electrical continuity,
not for providing any strain relief.  An example of a fairly rugged
connector style using IDC is any standard phone or ethernet quick-
connect jack (RJ-xx style).

Hope this helps.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:14 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXCIC - return value when no card is inserted is 02
Comments: To: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>

Stefan Peichl writes:
> You convinced me, I will release the source code. Just give me
> some time to translate my german comments into english. I guess
> you know it is written in assembler and optimized for size, so
> this is no easy to understand code, but anyway, it may be useful
> to some of you.

Excellent!  Another indispensible HP200LX utility destined for eternity
through open source.  I publicly applaud your decision, Stefan!

To the other authors of freeware HP2000LX applications: If you are not
considering making money out of your software, then please consider
releasing the source code as Stefan has done.  The HP200LX community
will continue to thank you long after you've sold your last HP200LX (or
gone to that great HPLX-L list in the sky).

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>Every day I learn a little more about xfinder.

You're not alone, me too!



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Hi,

Has anyone tried the new HP CapShare 910 Information Appliance.  It
looks like the ultimate gadget.  I just got a sales card from
MobilePlanet announcing the new device.  For anyone interested HP has a
website for it: www.capshare.com, and MobilePlanet has some demo of the
device, with a drawing to enter to win a new Jornada :( Palmtop at:
www.capshare.com/mobileplanet.

According to the sales card I got, it is a battery powered hand held
scanner, smaller than a portable CD player, that can scan & store up to
50 documents, and then transfer to a desktop, laptop, CE palmtop, smart
phone (what ever that is), or send directly to a printer via cable or
infrared.  Sounds pretty cool!

I really thought I needed one of these so I called MobilePlanet.  They
had only 2 in stock when I called, and charge $699.99 for it.  Ouch.
They told me it comes with 4 NI-CAD's, charger, CD-ROM software, case &
serial cable.  They didn't list any accessories available (like memory
upgrade).  Maybe someone would find this new device extremely helpful.

Just think, any place you go that has something you want to copy, could
be scanned and carried out in your pocket.  Scary huh?  Think of the
increase of government security breaches this could cause.  Stealing
nuclear secrets just got easier.  I am assuming that being able to
connect to a smart phone would allow you to fax any of the scanned
documents anywhere in the world, so then the scanned documents could be
erased from the device, without a trace.

Just thought that maybe some of my fellow gadgeteers might be
interested.  I do not have any connection to HP or MobilePlanet other
than being a satisfied customer of many of their products.  If I can
build a good business case to present to my wife, as to why I just must
have one of these, I might give on a try.  I hope!



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 06:15:39 -0800
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Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?

I am looking at getting a Sandisk 48mb CF w/ Adapter but want to make
sure it will work with the 200lx.

If you use one, could you let me know what brand and the size?

And thank you to all of you who answered my previous posting.

Thank you,

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 06:24:16 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I use that combo on my LX.  48mb Sandisk CF inside a Simple Technology adapter.

No complaints and it runs faster and longer (on batteries) than my previous 40mb
Simple Tech flash card.

- Longden





Mark Larson <larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU> on 05/26/99 07:15:39 AM

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Subject:  Compact Flash question




Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?

I am looking at getting a Sandisk 48mb CF w/ Adapter but want to make
sure it will work with the 200lx.

If you use one, could you let me know what brand and the size?

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The Capshare 910 has been out for 6 mos to a year. It was last
discussed here IIRC in November or December. At that time it did not
get particularly good reviews from those who had tried it, and it
was generally rated as `way too expensive' in comparison with lots
of other hand-held scanners. My impression is that sales have been
slow at CompUSA, as most of their stores haven't bothered to carry it.
The best price I have seen is $640 or so...

Robert Hocking wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone tried the new HP CapShare 910 Information Appliance.  It
> looks like the ultimate gadget.  I just got a sales card from
...

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I use a sandisk 48mb cf in my nikon camera and copy the pictures to my
hp200. I also have a nikon 8mb CF (came with the camera but I have never
used it for that purpose) which I only use  to move files from my HP to my
laptop.  Both work fine with the adapter and I have not had any problems
problems at all
Ron.
--From: Mark Larson <larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU>


>Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 16:06:59 +0100
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Hi Antonio,

thanks for Your answer concerning my search after todo.exm:

> Try http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm
> Regards
> Antonio

I found it and it seems to be a great tool!

Cheers & thanks, Axel

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 21:48:21 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Gerhard, Bennett,

What you are doing appears to be immensely useful, but slightly beyond
comprehension to this unix-challenged person. What are CVS and RCS? Do they
have equivalents in the (pardon my Swahili) Windows world??

-Anand.

At 03:03 AM 25-05-99 Tuesday , Bennett Todd wrote:
>1999-05-24-16:46:37 Gerhard Gonter:
>> I'm currently working on a solution where the backup would be sent to a host
>> computer (a Unix desktop computer in my case), converted to a text format
>> and then checked in into CVS or RCS.
>
>If you finish tools to rebuild the databases from the dumps, I'll be keen to
>pursue that approach. But until then, I've been very happy with CVS tracking
>of the raw image. Now that I'm working off a laptop that happily takes my
>FLASH card, the backup has been reduced to:
>
>        rsync -va --delete /flash/. ~/hp/
>        CVSROOT=~/cvs me=$LOGNAME d=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S` \
>                cvs -q import -m "Backup of $me HP @ $d" -kb hp $LOGNAME a_$d
>
>or thereabouts. As CVS accurately tracks binary files, this seems to work
>fine. If ever I can convert the binary database formats to a text format which
>can be automatically reconstituted into the original binary formats, I can
>retroactively convert all my CVSed history.
>
>-Bennett
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 21:53:52 +0800
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I too use a SanDisk CF card with the adapter on my HP200LX. The card is
normally used on the Nikon CoolPix camera and the data is transferred
directly to a PC. However, I need to put it into the HP palmtop for
occasional re-formatting. I have had no problem with the card in the palmtop.

Anand.

At 09:44 PM 26-05-99 Wednesday , you wrote:
>I use a sandisk 48mb cf in my nikon camera and copy the pictures to my
>hp200. I also have a nikon 8mb CF (came with the camera but I have never
>used it for that purpose) which I only use  to move files from my HP to my
>laptop.  Both work fine with the adapter and I have not had any problems
>problems at all
>Ron.
>--From: Mark Larson <larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU>
>
>
>>Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 22:10:47 +0800
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Following the good advice here, I have been very careful to avoid all
'unnatural acts' with the palmtop or the data. However, I still have
episodes of unrelated data showing up in files (apart from. gdb file, the
config.sys and autoexec.bat files also got corrupted yesterday). It is
getting to be a bit bizarre. Could this be some hard to detect hardware
fault that manifests from time to time? (I did drop the unit on a hard
floor once and that's when these problems could have started.) Or something
wrong with the in built power supply? Or any other hardware related stuff
that is potentially difficult to diagnose?

In that case I may save myself further aggravation by getting a new unit.
If so, as most of the opinion here is to keep the data on the CF cards for
better safety, what additional mileage would I get from the optional extra
RAM? I understand the joys of the Doublespeed upgrade and that's what I may
go for. I'm not sure what a regular user like me can do with additional
RAM, though.

Any advice?

Anand.

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 16:22:05 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Mark,

I use this combination, too. 48 MB CF and PCMCIA --> CF adapter (both Sandisk).
Works great!

I bought me aa CF reader/writer for my desktop PC, too. Now I can transfer files
or make backups of the palmtop very quickly and safe: A whole 48 MB backup takes
now abt. 5 minutes!

GTX
daniel

Mark Larson schrieb:
>
> Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?
>
> I am looking at getting a Sandisk 48mb CF w/ Adapter but want to make
> sure it will work with the 200lx.
>
> If you use one, could you let me know what brand and the size?
>
> And thank you to all of you who answered my previous posting.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 14:25:15 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FAQ Suggestion - Data Corruption and Backups
Comments: To: Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <4.1.19990526214814.0093b660@pop.pacific.net.hk>; from Anand Rao
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1999-05-26-13:48:21 Anand Rao:
> What are CVS and RCS?

RCS stands for Revision Control System.

It's a facility for tracking changes in a file. First, you check in a base
version of a file; this creates a special RCS control file with some header
info and a copy of the original file. Then you can check in subsequent
versions; if the file hasn't changed, the check in is a no-op; if the file has
changed, then RCS notes the changes in the control file. At any point, RCS can
reproduce any version of the file that has ever been checked in, or the
differences between any two versions, and the total storage for this trick is
the storage for one full copy of the file, plus the storage for each of the
diffs from one version to the next.

Now, the one thing missing from RCS is sophisticated control for intelligent
handling of large groups of files. CVS, which stands for Concurrent Version
System, adds that, at least conceptually as a layer atop RCS (recent
implementations pretty much re-implement all the RCS functionality directly in
internal code). CVS lets you "check in" an entire directory tree in one big
whack. There's a lot more to it than this, but the way Gerhard Gonter and I
are using it that's all that's important.

> Do they have equivalents in the (pardon my Swahili) Windows world??

Beats me; I Don't Do Windows.

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 10:28:19 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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I have a PNY 32 Megabyte in an adapter that works fine in my HP200. In fact
I now have a spare 15 Meg PCCard if anyone is interested.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Larson ÝSMTP:larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU¨
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 10:16
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Compact Flash question
>
> Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?
>
> I am looking at getting a Sandisk 48mb CF w/ Adapter but want to make
> sure it will work with the 200lx.
>
> If you use one, could you let me know what brand and the size?
>
> And thank you to all of you who answered my previous posting.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 10:46:36 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 26 May 1999 10:29:51 -0400 (EDT)

OK - so the conventional wisdom (now THERE'S an oxymoron!) says that
NiCads have a "memory effect" and NiMH do not.  Of course "memory
effect" is supposed to be a myth...

Whether you call it "memory effect" or whatever, there IS a gradual
decrease of maximum voltage and capacity when these cells are only
partially discharged (a necessity in the palmtop).  And - this applies
to NiMH as well.  To quote the Panasonic Nickel Metal Hydride Batteries
- Technical Handbook:  "...repeated charge and discharge of these
batteries under high cut-off voltage conditions (more than 1.1V per
cell) causes a drop in the discharge voltage (which is sometimes
accompanied by a simultaneous drop in capacity).  The discharge
characteristics can be restored by charge and discharge to a discharge
end voltage of down to 1.0V per cell."

Now - it's not possible to discharge to 1.0V/cell in the palmtop.  It's
not safe to go much below 1.2V/cell, so it seems like the best idea is
to swap the batteries out, and recondition 'em every few months.

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 10:05:56 -0500
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On 05-26 09:46am CDT, the following was written:

> OK - so the conventional wisdom (now THERE'S an oxymoron!) says that
> NiCads have a "memory effect" and NiMH do not.  Of course "memory
> effect" is supposed to be a myth...

Coomunication satellites, both commercial and amateur, have used nicads for
*years* without any problems. Satellites charge when in the sun and
discharge in darkness, therefore, depending on the orbit characteristics of
the particular satellite, the may go through a charge/discharge state every
90 minutes. I'm using AO-27 as an example, it's about 500 miles up and
travels at approx 16000MPH. The battery chemistry of nicads is much
different now than when they were first developed, thereby reducing the
'memory effect' which was once an extreme problem. Just think about all
those NiCads that are over our heads in orbit<g>!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 15:25:57 GMT
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Hi friends,

does anyone have a fully working (i.e. also printing) installation of
EmTeX (maybe Stephan Luettjohann's 'LXTEX') on his palmtop?

I just can't get it to work. Especially the printing I can't get
configured correctly. I have a CANON BJC4100 (compatible to all CANON
BJ printers and to Epson LQ printers).

I tried to make new fonts with mfjob, but it always resulted in errors,
errrors, errors....

TNX
daniel

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Hi friends,

I just installed 123GGG (the German version of 123G).
I configured it to appear when I press the Menu key twice (as suggested
in the 123g.doc, with key200 and the entry
¬Menu Menu : Asc Alt F9 ¬F9 ¬Alt
in my key200 initialization file).

When I press the Menu key twice, the menu appears, but I cannot
navigate through it with the arrow keys.
I only hear beeps when pressing left or right. If I press up or down,
nothing happens. When I try to navigate pressing the underlined letters
in the menu, the menu item is shortly highlighted, then the whole menu
disappears.

If I call the menu with Alt-F9, all works fine.

Can anyone help me please?

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 08:32:41 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Hi Anand.

I can't comment too much on your corruption problems. *db files have a
propensity to go bad if you're not careful, but I've yet to see simple files
like autoexec.bat and config.sys do the same (pretty darn unnatural).

If you do decide to get a new unit, go for the extra RAM.  I have just 6mb on
mine, but the added RAM gives you several benefits:

     - EMS swap area
     - store your executables for faster loading
     - using RAM vs card for accesses (ie swap space and executables) will
extend your battery life
     - using a PC card modem, the extra RAM gives you more space to store
downloaded data

Whether you go for 6/8/32/64 mb depends on how deep your pockets are.  I'm fine
with 6mb and a 48mb CF card... but then I also use my Omnibook 800CT to do some
of my work.

- Longden





Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> on 05/26/99 07:10:47 AM

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Subject:  No unnatural acts, but still getting files corrupted




Following the good advice here, I have been very careful to avoid all
'unnatural acts' with the palmtop or the data. However, I still have
episodes of unrelated data showing up in files (apart from. gdb file, the
config.sys and autoexec.bat files also got corrupted yesterday). It is
getting to be a bit bizarre. Could this be some hard to detect hardware
fault that manifests from time to time? (I did drop the unit on a hard
floor once and that's when these problems could have started.) Or something
wrong with the in built power supply? Or any other hardware related stuff
that is potentially difficult to diagnose?

In that case I may save myself further aggravation by getting a new unit.
If so, as most of the opinion here is to keep the data on the CF cards for
better safety, what additional mileage would I get from the optional extra
RAM? I understand the joys of the Doublespeed upgrade and that's what I may
go for. I'm not sure what a regular user like me can do with additional
RAM, though.

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 17:26:46 +0100
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              Martin Cerny <cerny@NATUR.CUNI.CZ>
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I am a novice user of HP 200lx, and I am trying to exchange files with PC
(win95). I have succesfully installed the Transfile Win 200 v.1.0.3, I use
the proper HP F1015A cable (which works fine with HPOmniGo), I am in the
Filer with server mode enabled, but I cannot get my palmtop connected. Only
response I can see is during Transfile detection of connection speeds: when
it checks the speed which is set up on the palmtop, the palmtop turns to the
server mode. But the detection ends up with "No HP palmtop ... "
When I try "data communication" on Palmtop with Terminal on Windows, I can
capture the characters typed on the PC keyboard on the Palmtop screen, but I
cannot send/receive any files (Kermit, Zmodem).
What is wrong? Me or the palmtop?

Thanks for any advice.

Martin Cerny

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 10:46:03 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Compact Flash question

Good choice, just what I have.
48MB sandisk CF
works like a charm...

A 96MB is currently going for $200
a better choice.

yor pal al........
>

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> 1999-05-26-13:48:21 Anand Rao:
> > What are CVS and RCS?
>
> RCS stands for Revision Control System.
>
ÝSNIP¨

> > Do they have equivalents in the (pardon my Swahili) Windows world??
>
> Beats me; I Don't Do Windows.
>

Yes, there is a CVS version for 32 bit windows..
See http://www.cyclic.com/cvs/windows.html

and an RCS for DOS
see ftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/rcsdos/

There is a port of RCS for Windows 95/NT that is long filename aware, but I cannot
find a URL for just now.



Mike


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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 17:55:31 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@MOLI.FRANKEN.DE>
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Hi,

> to NiMH as well.  To quote the Panasonic Nickel Metal Hydride
Batteries
> - Technical Handbook:  "...repeated charge and discharge of these
> batteries under high cut-off voltage conditions (more than 1.1V per
> cell) causes a drop in the discharge voltage (which is sometimes
> accompanied by a simultaneous drop in capacity).  The discharge
> characteristics can be restored by charge and discharge to a discharge
> end voltage of down to 1.0V per cell."
>
> Now - it's not possible to discharge to 1.0V/cell in the palmtop.  It's
> not safe to go much below 1.2V/cell, so it seems like the best idea is
> to swap the batteries out, and recondition 'em every few months.

I found a lot of information about rechargeables at the
Panasonic-Website (downloadable PDF-Files) a few weeks ago. I
think that what they - as one of the market leaders - say about
rechargeables is firmly based on scientific and empiric research
and can be taken as granted.
Since I read this information at the Panasonic site I do exactly
what you suggest. I normally charge the batteries in the Palmtop
and from time to time in a NiMh charger which can discharge them
before recharge.

Reinhard



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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 16:19:32 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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 Leon,

 A few of us are using the Apex Data 33.6 PC Card model# 011-20641.  It
 draws about 138ma while online.  It can also be used with Cell Phones
 if you also get the proper optional cable.  Mobil Planet carries these
 and I think someone recently got one for about $98.  Their contact
 info. is: http://www.mplanet.com,  1-800-675-2638,  Fax 818-888-3484.
 I have been using one for a couple yrs. in both my 200LX and OB600/800.
   =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 12:53:40 -0400
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              David Zelkowski <davez@PROVIDE.NET>
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I use the exact combination you mention in my 200lx.
Dave Zelkowski

Mark Larson wrote:

> Who is using a Compact Flash (CF) with a PCMCIA adapter in their 200lx?
>
> I am looking at getting a Sandisk 48mb CF w/ Adapter but want to make
> sure it will work with the 200lx.
>
> If you use one, could you let me know what brand and the size?
>
> And thank you to all of you who answered my previous posting.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 09:32:14 -0800
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Subject:      Re: 123G and KEY200
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>I just installed 123GGG (the German version of 123G).
>I configured it to appear when I press the Menu key twice (as suggested
>in the 123g.doc, with key200 and the entry
>¬Menu Menu : Asc Alt F9 ¬F9 ¬Alt
>in my key200 initialization file).
>
>When I press the Menu key twice, the menu appears, but I cannot
>navigate through it with the arrow keys.
>I only hear beeps when pressing left or right. If I press up or down,
>nothing happens. When I try to navigate pressing the underlined letters
>in the menu, the menu item is shortly highlighted, then the whole menu
>disappears.
>
>If I call the menu with Alt-F9, all works fine.
>
>Can anyone help me please?


Hi Daniel,

I also use 123G, but instead of Key200 I use EXKey with the keys assigned to
{ALT+MENU}={ALT+F9}.

EXKey is available on the SUPER Site.

HTH


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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 10:09:07 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash question
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Yor Pal Al said ...
>
> Good choice, just what I have.
> 48MB sandisk CF
> works like a charm...
>
> A 96MB is currently going for $200
> a better choice.

A question for those of you using CF in digital cameras, specific the
Nikon CoolPix: Have you noticed that the larger a CF you put in, the
longer it takes for the camera to start up?  Normally I use a SanDisk
48Mb CF, but I've just noticed that when I put in the original 4Mb CF the
camera starts up right quick.  I'd been thinking that the time delay was
either the charging time of the CF, or related to directory
fragmentation.  I've been wondering if re-formatting the CF would help
things.  Anyone have any advice/experience with this?

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 12:49:26 -0500
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              Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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You didn't mention what your communication settings were set at.  They must
be set to COM 1 (as opposed to Infrared), I use Transfile flawlessly and my
remote settings are as follows:  (Access Filer, MENU, C(ommunications,
R(emote Settings.)

Baud Rate = 19,200
Interface = Com 1
Phone = Tone
Server Mode = Enabled

I also have a little label printer attached to my serial port and it
conflicts with Transfile and needs to be exited in order for Transfile to
run.

Les

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 11:28:57 -0700
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I'm interested!!!

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: LED light - who's interested?


> Hi friends,
>
> Some of you asked me. if it's possible that I make some LED lights
> (these ones that you plug into the serial port and enlighten the display
> of the LX with) and sell them. I always answered, that I don't have
> the time to do this.
>
> Now (since I'm a liitle bit more experienced in making the lights) I
> decided to make a few of them and sell them to those of you who want to
> have one.
>
> You can have a look at this light at
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html
>
> I've calculated a provisional price of abt. 35 US$, this includes all
> costs:
>
> * the needed parts (abt. 10 US$)
> * the needed working time (how much is time worth?)
> * the full costs of an international money order (abt. 10 US$)
> * shipping to anywhere in the world (abt. 3.5 US$)
>
> (Yes, I make a profit by this deal, but I found it reasonable:
> I've spent a lot of time developing the light, making the instructions
> you can see at the above URL, and I need time for making every single
> light for those of you who want one - you see: there's much time
> 'included' in this little light.)
>
> So: If you want me to make such a light for you, please email to me:
> d.hertrich@gmx.de
>
> If I get too many requests, I will let _you_ decide who gets one and
> who not. I'll make an email address list of all people who were
> interested (say in a week) and keep all members of this list informed.
>
>
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Germany
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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 18:43:21 GMT
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Hi friends,

I've done a few measurements at the serial port regarding the current
flowing when one of my LED lights is connected.

I reconsidered the question whether a resistor is needed or not.

But I need the help of someone who knows the driver chip of the serial
port better than I do.

Here are my measurements:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Pins GD, TxD                            Voltage     Current
===========================================================
(1) short circuit                       0           9.2mA

(2) idle                                6.3V        0

(3) 2 LEDs parallel                     3.4V        4.9mA

(4) resistor 27 ohms                    0.24V       9.0mA

(5) 2 LEDs parallel + resistor serial   3.2V        3.9mA

_____________________

(1): (GD)--------------------------(TxD)

(2): (GD)                          (TxD)


          |--ÝLED¨--|
(3): (GD)-|         |--------------(TxD)
          |--ÝLED¨--|

(4): (GD)---------Ý27ohm¨----------(TxD)

          |--ÝLED¨--|
(5): (GD)-|         |---Ý27ohm¨----(TxD)
          |--ÝLED¨--|

--------------------------------------------------------



My question is: Is it safer for the serial port to build a 27 ohms
resistor into the LED light (which gets a little bit darker then) or
isn't it useful? It works greatly without, but maybe you remeber the
discussion about the safety of the port.
And now since I'm selling the LED lights... it's maybe more important
than before!

TNX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 15:05:03 -0400
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              Ron Tatham <rtatham@IBM.NET>
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I have a thumbelina mouse which works fine from the sys mgr with (for
example) visual basic.  However if I load the driver (felmouse.com from
fellows ... maker of the thumbelina) from a software carousel session it
says that it can't find the mouse.  I have looked at the SC help and various
DOS sources but can't identify how I get the mouse driver to "see" the mouse
while in an SC session.
any help appreciated.
Ron

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 26 May 1999, Ron Tatham wrote:

> I have a thumbelina mouse which works fine from the sys mgr with (for
> example) visual basic.  However if I load the driver (felmouse.com
> from fellows ... maker of the thumbelina) from a software carousel
> session it says that it can't find the mouse.  I have looked at the SC
> help and various DOS sources but can't identify how I get the mouse
> driver to "see" the mouse while in an SC session. any help
> appreciated.

Most likely the COM port is turned off under straight DOS mode.  Get LXPRO
or LXSTAT from SUPER.  LXPro is a TSR you can use to turn on the COM port
power, set the speed, etc.  LXSTAT is a command-line utility that can
control lots of things about the palmtop.  To turn on the serial port
power, you'd type "LXSTAT s w".

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:08 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Has anyone tried the new HP CapShare 910 Information Appliance.  It
looks like the ultimate gadget.>>

I haven't tried it, but I got a call yesterday from a physician/long
time subscriber to our pubs. He couldn't say enough about it. He called
me expressly to see if I were interested in doing some kind of business
with him to get it to MD's.  He said it solves lots of problems
including having charts of patients in handheld, research in the
library, etc.

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 18:07:51 -0400
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
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Who sells either one?

Domingo

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From: Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Compact Flash question

> Good choice, just what I have.
> 48MB sandisk CF
> works like a charm...
>
> A 96MB is currently going for $200
> a better choice.

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Date:         Wed, 26 May 1999 18:08:47 -0400
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You mean the thing actually works?  Does this MD actually own and use one?
My experience with handheld scanners has been negative so far (I own a
Logitech one).   My main interest was OCR, but I have found that only
flatbed scanners work well for that.  If this thing was *much* more accurate
in spite of the manual handling, I would be *very* interested.  But if it is
yet another, more portable scanner to take pictures with, I'll yawn at it.

Domingo

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From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: New HP gadget

> <<Has anyone tried the new HP CapShare 910 Information Appliance.  It
> looks like the ultimate gadget.>>
>
> I haven't tried it, but I got a call yesterday from a physician/long
> time subscriber to our pubs. He couldn't say enough about it. He called

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What is a parallel buffer?  Is there a way to do this in software?  Most of
my efforts at printing from the LX have failed.  When I did succeed, it was
always a with a dot matrix printer, and then it often still failed.  But I
noticed something funny.  In one particularly graphic printing, the point at
which the print became garbled was always the same.  That suggest to me some
memory problem.  Would a software spooler help this?

Any suggestion appreciated.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm & Karyn <masfmt@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 9:11 AM
Subject: printing method


> I have also used a serial to parrallel converter and a parrallel buffer to
> get the speed up as different printers print at different speeds and if
you
> dont get it right you dont get a complete print. I looked a t making up a
> switch box system so that i could come home and plug in one cable to the
LX
> and have access to both the computer and the printer but it was going to
> cost too much and was very complicated. When i get my LX fixed ill try
> again.

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A while ago I posted a number of items for sale including a couple NEW
HP 1000cx 2mb Handhelds, and some other units.  Through a few twists
of fate too strange to go into I find myself again with one (and possibly 2)
of these available.  See below for features and details.

I have the following handheld for sale:

HP 1000cx  (BRAND NEW IN THE BOX)
- 2mb RAM
- approx 11oz in weight
- DOS 5, Setup, Laplink Remote in ROM.
- Instant On, no need to wait for the system to boot just turn it on and go.
- 1 Type II PCMCIA card slot for flash ram, modems, etc.
- 2 AA Batteries & Lithium Backup Battery.
- Irda compatible IR Port.
- French nationalized version. (accent characters added, and minor french
labeling)

The HP 1000cx was never sold to the public (by hp) and was originally sold
only in large lots to corporations for use in vertical market applications.
The 1000cx is identical to an HP200lx except it has a black case and
Lotus 1-2-3 and the PIM functions are not included in ROM making
the system a more generic DOS system, ready for your applications.

These units have DOS compatiblity and incredible battery life, with a set
of 2 AA batteries lasting a month or more of typical usage.

If you wish I will preload them with an application launcher and other
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Price:  $200 + Shipping (UNITS are NEW not merely in good condition)

Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com

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Dan Ridenhour
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Are you running on batteries or an AC adapter?  Mine only connects
reliably when it's on the adapter.

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Domingo
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>Who sells either one?

Sandisk et al............
various sizes and prices.

yor pal al.......................


>Subject: Re: Compact Flash question
>
>> Good choice, just what I have.
>> 48MB sandisk CF
>> works like a charm...
>>
>> A 96MB is currently going for $200
>> a better choice.
.............................800->
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About a year or so ago, I found a little program on the internet that
simulated a Mac style screen on the LX which, by using the arrow keys,
allowed you activate certain functions on the LX. The screen also had the
little pair of "eyes" that would follow the curson around the screen as you
moved it with the arrow keys. I have searched in vain for the past two days
for this program. Does anyone know what I'm talking about or where to find
it. As I recall, it was written by someone from Japan.... I think....

73 Jeff W4JEF

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On 26-May-99, Axel Klag wrote:
>> Try http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm
>> Regards
>> Antonio
>
> I found it and it seems to be a great tool!

There seem to be some pretty interesting .EXM's at this site (even if
downloading from them is painfully slow).

Do people really use ToDo.exm or FIT.exm and what kinds of uses have you
found?

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My son in law's program (inspired by his HP41c) "Master
Converter" has
been nominated as a finalist in the "Ziff Davis 1999 Top
Shareware Awards".

Click on
http://www6.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?&b=zdawards&fcode=0009BP

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The problem persists regardless running my palmtop either on adapter or on
batteries. The COM port settings are OK as well. However - which values are
proper for IO and Unterrupt settings of COM1?

Martin C.

 Is there any suggestion how to set the ----- Original Message -----
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> Are you running on batteries or an AC adapter?  Mine only connects
> reliably when it's on the adapter.
>
> David
>
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Hi Tom,

You have to open the phone book file with the database application.
Then you can modify the stucture of the phone database just as you
described.

GTX
daniel

> I was wondering if anyone knows how to modify the field in the Phone
> Book
> application. I would think it would be similar to modifying a data base
> in
> the Data Base application. To do this, you go under File, Modify
> Database.
> Unfortunately, there' s no similar command under the Phone Book
> application.
> -
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Mike Little writes:
> and an RCS for DOS
> see ftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/rcsdos/

Does this port work on the HP200LX ?

ÝI have an earlier version of RCS that I use on the HP to control the
source code to my palmtop programs.¨

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> My son in law's program (inspired by his HP41c) "Master
> Converter" has
> been nominated as a finalist in the "Ziff Davis 1999 Top
> Shareware Awards".

Heheh... Congratulations! This is a major achievement!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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<... Most of my efforts at printing from the LX have failed.>

<I have also used a serial to parrallel converter and a parrallel buffer to get the speed up as different printers print at different speeds and if you dont get it right you dont get a complete print. I looked at making up a switch box system so that i could come home and plug in one cable to the LX and have access to both the computer and the printer but it was going to cost too much and was very complicated.>

Hallo friends

I evaluated all the different possibilities to print with the LX. I found the following:

Parallel PC-Card
----------------
Minus - Expensive
      - PCMCIA-slot is occupied
Plus  - Plug Printer/ZIP/parallel Linkcable
        to your LX
      - Parallel is quicker than serial

Serial/Parallel converter
-------------------------
Minus - Very very slow (makes printing
        sometimes impossible)
Plus  - inexpensive if compared to the
        parallel PC-Card
      - PCMCIA slot is free

Serial printer
--------------
Minus - expensive
      - makes only sense on the LX
Plus  - no fiddle with adapters and
        additional cables
      - PCMCIA slot is free

Redirect to file
----------------
Minus - pedantical
      - Desktop PC necessary
      - no printing on the road
Plus  - it's free
      - PCMCIA slot is free

OmniPrint
---------
Minus - Desktop PC necessary
      - no printing on the road
Plus  - it's free (www.palmtop.net/)
      - it's fast
      - it's easy
      - PCMCIA slot is free
      - print with your serial cable
        or via the IR-port (not tested)


The best solution for me was the OmniPrint way. OmniPrint is a little COM-program that has to be started on the desktop. I make a clean DOS-boot (e.g. Windows 95 safe mode command line only). Then just start OmniPrint. Standard is COM1-LPT1. i.e. all that is coming in from COM1 goes to LPT1. Of course you can use other ports too. So if you have a printer attached at LPT1, you simply plug your serial cable in your LX and the Desktop, start OmniPrint and start the printing. I carry a clean DOS boot diskette with OmniPrint with me and can even use a customers Windows NT Desktop to print from my LX. Of course it wouldn't work under NT, but I don't care, because I just do a clean DOS boot with my Diskette. I didn't test it with the IR port, but theoretically you can print on this way too. e.g. on my IBM ThinkPad, the IR port is just COM1. I didn't test it already, because I never installed any DOS IR driver. Will test it soon. Does anyone know where to find this kind of DOS drivers!
?

Perhaps you can add some plus or minus to the above printing methods. I'm very interested in your experiences.

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I don't have the scandisk.exe from Win95 but did try the version from
Win98. When I run it on the Palmtop's 32M C: drive I get a message that
there are problems with the disk. The" more information" option tells me
that the Media byte is bad and that Scandisk will fix it.  I'm reluctant =
to
let anything from MS "fix" my palmtop. It works fine with the bad media
byte whatever that is.  (Scandisk did warn that this was a potentially
destructive fix.) Has anyone else encountered this situation?

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On 26 May 99, at 18:08, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:


> > <<Has anyone tried the new HP CapShare 910 Information Appliance.  It
> > looks like the ultimate gadget.>>
> >

By mistake I sent yesterday a message about this HP gadget only
to the author of the original post and not to the list.

In it I referred to a device by Siemens that seems to do what the
HP device does and costs USD $210 in Europe (taxes and S&H
included). Search the web for pocketreader.

Regards

Antonio
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On 26 May 99, at 23:32, Jeff Johns wrote:



> About a year or so ago, I found a little program on the internet that
> simulated a Mac style screen on the LX which, by using the arrow keys,
> allowed you activate certain functions on the LX. The screen also had the
> little pair of "eyes" that would follow the curson around the screen as
> you moved it with the arrow keys. I have searched in vain for the past two
> days for this program. Does anyone know what I'm talking about or where to
> find it. As I recall, it was written by someone from Japan.... I think....
>
Yes. It's called MIMAC and I think I have it. Let me search my
archives (may take some time, they are a mess).

Regards

Antonio
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On 27 May 99, at 10:05,  Rod Whitby <rwhitby@hplx.net> wrote:

> Mike Little writes:
> > and an RCS for DOS
> > see ftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/rcsdos/
>
> Does this port work on the HP200LX ?
>
> ÝI have an earlier version of RCS that I use on the HP to control the
> source code to my palmtop programs.¨
>

Rod,
I don't know to be honest, I'm using RCS 5.6.4 on my HP.
I did a simple web search and turned up this one in order to answer the specific
question posed :-(

I don't remember there being any 5.7 versions that didn't require a 386, but then I
could be wrong (I often am!)

Mike


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> Now - it's not possible to discharge to 1.0V/cell in the palmtop.  It's
> not safe to go much below 1.2V/cell, so it seems like the best idea is
> to swap the batteries out, and recondition 'em every few months.
>
> -Peniel

Just a tid bit of info, Radio Shack shack now sells a small 3 hour quick
charger that recharges 4 AA batteries at once, that is wall mounted, that
discharges the batteries for a hour first, then charges them for 2
hours.  Just picked one up yesterday, was priced $16.99, on sale for
$9.99.  Much easier to use than putting the batteries in a mini-mag
light and leaving on until batteries are discharged, then charging them.
Thought somebody might be interested.  No relationship to Radio Shack,
other than being a customer.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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>  Leon,
>
>  A few of us are using the Apex Data 33.6 PC Card model# 011-20641.  It
>  draws about 138ma while online.  It can also be used with Cell Phones
>  if you also get the proper optional cable.

I am one of them, including the cell connect.  BTW, unless you wish to
share the modem with a laptop, getting anything faster than 33.6 to be
used on the LX is a waste of your money, because the LX won't be able
to utilize the faster speed, the modem is limited by the speed of the
LX's port.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
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> <<Has anyone tried the new HP CapShare 910 Information Appliance.  It
> looks like the ultimate gadget.>>
>
> I haven't tried it, but I got a call yesterday from a physician/long
> time subscriber to our pubs. He couldn't say enough about it. He called
> me expressly to see if I were interested in doing some kind of business
> with him to get it to MD's.  He said it solves lots of problems
> including having charts of patients in handheld, research in the
> library, etc.

I agree Hal, the possibilities are limitless, especially if they have
any plans on offering memory upgrades.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
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> > My son in law's program (inspired by his HP41c) "Master
> > Converter" has
> > been nominated as a finalist in the "Ziff Davis 1999 Top
> > Shareware Awards".
>
> Heheh... Congratulations! This is a major achievement!
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

Avi, the message that you were replying to stated to click on ......
What I would like to know is how do you, and other on the list do this.
I run into this a lot, for more info click on ........  Let me explain,
I am in POST/LX reading my mail, like this, and I wish to go to a
website, with a very complex long name, not just a simple one like:
www.dasoft.com :)  Do you write down all those characters on a piece of
paper, then exit out of POST/LX & go into WWW/LX, and type in all those
characters?  When I do this it is a pain.  What makes it worse if is I
write something down wrong, or type something in wrong.  Any help here
would be appreciated.  I must be missing out on some sort of short cut
here somehow.  Thanks in advance.




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> Hallo friends
>
> I evaluated all the different possibilities to print with the LX. I =
found the following:

> Serial/Parallel converter
> -------------------------
> Minus - Very very slow (makes printing
>         sometimes impossible)
> Plus  - inexpensive if compared to the
>         parallel PC-Card
>       - PCMCIA slot is free
>
> Perhaps you can add some plus or minus to the above printing methods.
> I'm very interested in your experiences.
>
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I totally disagree with your above statement that the serial/parallel
converter is very slow, and sometimes makes printing impossible.  For
well over two years now I have been printing from my LX to one of three
of my HP printers.  I use a Belkin's serial/parallel converter that I
purchased at Computer City for $89.99.

When I need to print, my LX is connected to the HP connectivity cable,
which is connected to the serial/parallel converter, which is connected
to a printer.  While at work, I use a HP laserjet, and when I tell the
LX to send a document to the printer, it prints in about 20 seconds.
Is that slow to you?  Well it is not to me.

I also print to a AC/DC powered HP Deskjet 340 portable printer (a true
portable printer), which only because the printer is an ink jet, is
only slightly slower, but at no fault of the converter.  My opinion is
if you want only to print, without tying up your PCMCIA slot, and not
ever wishing to connect the LX to a Zip drive, get the cable I have.
It works great.  Anything you do that is related to being portable is
always expensive, but that is the price you pay for wanting to be
portable.




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> You mean the thing actually works?  Does this MD actually own and use =
one?
> My experience with handheld scanners has been negative so far (I own a
> Logitech one).   My main interest was OCR, but I have found that only
> flatbed scanners work well for that.  If this thing was *much* more =
accurate
> in spite of the manual handling, I would be *very* interested.  But if =
it is
> yet another, more portable scanner to take pictures with, I'll yawn at =
it.
>
> Domingo

I don't feel you are comparing apples with apples.  Did you read my
original posting about this device?  It is not anything like the
Logitech handheld scanner you mentioned in your message.  I bought one
of those Logitech's handheld scanners and took it back.  My reason, was
if I have to connect to a desktop or laptop while scanning, then I may
as well use a portable flatbed scanner.  That is what I replaced the
Logitech handheld scanner with a portable flatbed scanner.

The HP CapShare is a stand alone device, unlike the Logitech handheld
scanner that you mentioned in your message.  You not only can scan in
up to 50 documents, but you can view them, and delete the ones you don't
want to keep, all on the Capshare's screen.  Then when you get back to
your desktop, laptop, or CE palmtop, you can transfer the documents to
them.  You can also connect directly to a printer, or smart phone,
without having to have access to a desktop, laptop or CE palmtop.  Can
you do any of that with your Portable scanner?  I think not.  This is
way more than a portable scanner, it is a information manager, just
like the name says.  If you want to learn more about the device go to
HP's website: www.capshare.com




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i have a problem launching DOS programs with X-finder.
when using a .XFE link, X-finder does not change to the program's directory.
in this case some programs search for (and write) their data files to the
directory containing the link.
how do you launch curtis cameron's excellent games, for example?

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my palmtop is now 5 years old and quite worn. i need a replacement screen
cable.

i remember someone posting abot a replacement part kit from HP.
do you know if there is a screen flat band cable contained?
if so, please re-post the part number.

is there someone who has a spare screen cable?

tia
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<I totally disagree with your above statement that the serial/parallel
converter is very slow, and sometimes makes printing impossible.>

I never could test a converter personally but this was the (until now) unique statement of the list members. Some told, that their printer stopped to print because of the slowlyness. Anyway: I think, that a desktop with running OmniPrint is a freeware solution. The only advantage of a serial/parallel converter is the ability to print on the road.

-goe-

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Thank you to all those who responded to my plea for information.   I have
now ordered one from 'Kento' in NY.   Ironically I have asked him airmail
it to me so that I can set it up before my overseas trip to ....guess
where?   That's right, the USA including NY !!!   For those US list
members, I am looking forward to visiting your country and have been busy
downloading all the relevant LXMAPs.

Warmest regards,

Leon Phillips
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I find that there are times when Transfile does not recognise the palmtop.
Going to the palmtop-filer's remote communications setup screen and re
saving the parameters solves this. I use Win NTW 4.0 on the desktop. 19200
is the max connect speed that I get.

Anand.

At 01:49 AM 27-05-99 Thursday , Leslie Cohn wrote:
>You didn't mention what your communication settings were set at.  They must
>be set to COM 1 (as opposed to Infrared), I use Transfile flawlessly and my
>remote settings are as follows:  (Access Filer, MENU, C(ommunications,
>R(emote Settings.)
>
>Baud Rate = 19,200
>Interface = Com 1
>Phone = Tone
>Server Mode = Enabled
>
>I also have a little label printer attached to my serial port and it
>conflicts with Transfile and needs to be exited in order for Transfile to
>run.
>
>Les
>
>

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> that the Media byte is bad and that Scandisk will fix it.  I'm reluctant
> to
> let anything from MS "fix" my palmtop. It works fine with the bad media
> byte whatever that is.  (Scandisk did warn that this was a potentially
> destructive fix.) Has anyone else encountered this situation?


Reluctance with an MS product - Ed, I shocked! (g)

I guess if you have the time, it is only a ramdisk so no change would be
permanent (you'd have to restore data) whereas, on a flashdisk, it could
put you in a real "fix" that would be harder to recover from.

Let us know what YOU discover!

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Thu, 27 May 1999 09:37:32 -0400 (EDT)

01h21m52s ago ...
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Alan Krempler wrote:

> when using a .XFE link, X-finder does not change to the program's =
directory.
> in this case some programs search for (and write) their data files to =
the
> directory containing the link.

Hi, Alan-

There are (at least) 3 ways to do it.
        1  Create a batch file that changes to the drive/directory and
           launches the app - make the .xfe link to it.

        2  Use multiple commands in the .xfe to do the same thing e.g.
              a:;cd\games;yahtzee.exe   or
              \||a:\cd\games;yahtzee.exe    (recommended by XF author)

        3  Use the .xff symbolic link function:  In the XF file
           manager, highlight your app, move to the palmtop directory,
           and press ÝCtrl¨Ý-¨ to create the link.  You'll need to hit
           enter twice to launch.

HTH

-Peniel
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Mine connects with the NT 4.0 desktop using Transfile and the serial cable and
my settings are 0000 for IO and 0 for Interrupt (via Ctrl-Filer/F6)...weird, and
it's also telling me com1 is disabled (the enable box is unchecked).... I wonder
how Transfile is able to initiate the connection?  (I just ran it to confirm it
works)

FWIW:

Desktop Transfile settings are at Com1, 57600 baud

LX settings are (Filer/57600/com1/SeverMode=enabled).

- Longden





Martin Cerny <cerny@NATUR.CUNI.CZ> on 05/27/99 12:51:32 AM

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The problem persists regardless running my palmtop either on adapter or on
batteries. The COM port settings are OK as well. However - which values are
proper for IO and Unterrupt settings of COM1?

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It probably does that for any non-Win98 OS <g>.

Maybe the doctor is trying to create patients.

- Longden





Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM> on 05/27/99 02:23:43 AM

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I don't have the scandisk.exe from Win95 but did try the version from
Win98. When I run it on the Palmtop's 32M C: drive I get a message that
there are problems with the disk. The" more information" option tells me
that the Media byte is bad and that Scandisk will fix it.  I'm reluctant to
let anything from MS "fix" my palmtop. It works fine with the bad media
byte whatever that is.  (Scandisk did warn that this was a potentially
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Along these lines, Canon once offered the Powershot 600 (or 650?) digital
camera, that was supposed to have come with OCR software.  The idea was that you
could use this autofocusing digital camera to take pictures that would be OCR
quaility input.

I assume the camera had all the standard digital camera features including
view/preview and delete such as on the CapShare.

Don't know how well this worked in practice, but it's an example of the same
thing... a self contained scanner (with alleged OCR capability)... and a camera
to boot!

Even if this model didn't make it, I think this is the way to go.  A digital
camera should be capable of scanner quality repros...sharp images defines the
nature of a any good camera.  Plus the image would be taken in one shot vs
multiple passes for the CapShare.

OTOH, it may well be that digital cameras aren't fully up to the task yet (at a
reasonable price).. and that the CapShare does a better job (for now).

My $.02

- Longden





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The HP CapShare is a stand alone device, unlike the Logitech handheld
scanner that you mentioned in your message.  You not only can scan in
up to 50 documents, but you can view them, and delete the ones you don't
want to keep, all on the Capshare's screen.  Then when you get back to
your desktop, laptop, or CE palmtop, you can transfer the documents to
them.  You can also connect directly to a printer, or smart phone,
without having to have access to a desktop, laptop or CE palmtop.  Can
you do any of that with your Portable scanner?  I think not.  This is
way more than a portable scanner, it is a information manager, just
like the name says.  If you want to learn more about the device go to
HP's website: www.capshare.com

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Peniel,

>         3  Use the .xff symbolic link function:  In the XF file
>            manager, highlight your app, move to the palmtop directory,
>            and press ÝCtrl¨Ý-¨ to create the link.  You'll need to hit
>            enter twice to launch.

Works fine, but how do you get the icon displayed?

Regards

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This site - http://www.thumbscript.com - was discussed in the NYTimes
this morning.

The idea converts the 9-key phone pad or numeric keypad into a full
alphanumeric keypad.  Think Graffiti on a keypad.  It would be really
nice on the HP200.

I'd still like a machine that is PalmPilot sized, with HP200lx (or
better) guts, and can be completely operated with one hand.

Larry Zimmerman

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Any products out there that could work w/the 200 that present the screen
display on a small device clipped to one's spectacles?  I've seen this
style device in custom computers - notably the "wearable internet PC"
made popular last year.  And I've head of PCMCIA cards that can be used
to drive an external desktop display.  So.... has anyone put all this
together and come up with a hands-free display for the 200LX?

Chris "Always Dreamin'" Lott

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<<You mean the thing actually works?  Does this MD actually own and use
one?>>

Yes, he loves it and is showing all his colleagues who are very
interested.

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On Thu, 27 May 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> I don't have the scandisk.exe from Win95 but did try the version from
> Win98. When I run it on the Palmtop's 32M C: drive I get a message
> that there are problems with the disk. The" more information" option
> tells me that the Media byte is bad and that Scandisk will fix it.
> I'm reluctant to let anything from MS "fix" my palmtop. It works fine
> with the bad media byte whatever that is.  (Scandisk did warn that
> this was a potentially destructive fix.) Has anyone else encountered
> this situation?

Not sure about Win98 scandisk, but my copy of Norton Disk Doctor, from
Norton Utilities 6, always does that with the 32MB drive (and maybe the
64, I don't know). If you let it fix it, nothing bad will happen.  If you
don't let it fix it, nothing bad will happen either.  However, I can't
speak for Scandisk.  <g>

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"stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> wrote:

> Has anyone experiences in using the MSDOS tool power.exe on the Palmtop?
> I have the line
>      DEVICE=A:\TOOLS\POWER.EXE ADV:MAX
> in my config.sys

What is the likelyhood that an old generic DOS 5 power
management utility TSR program is going to do a better job
than the specially written (by HP) BIOS built into of the
palmtop itself?  I suspect it will probably just interfere.


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Robert Hocking wrote:
> I am in POST/LX reading my mail, like this, and I wish to go to a
> website, with a very complex long name, not just a simple one like:
> www.dasoft.com :)  Do you write down all those characters

I press the 'G' (grab) key, move the highlight to the line with the URL
or email address or other text I want to grab, press ENTER and answer
the question (where to put it). Have a look at the POST/LX help file
and search for "Grab".

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> > Hallo friends
> > I evaluated all the different possibilities to print with the LX. I
found the following:
> > Serial/Parallel converter
> > Minus - Very very slow (makes printing
> >         sometimes impossible)
> > Plus  - inexpensive if compared to the
> >         parallel PC-Card
> >       - PCMCIA slot is free
>
> I totally disagree with your above statement that the serial/parallel
> converter is very slow, and sometimes makes printing impossible.  For
> well over two years now I have been printing from my LX to one of three
> of my HP printers.  I use a Belkin's serial/parallel converter that I
> purchased at Computer City for $89.99.
>
The first statement is correct for most serial/parallel converters,
including mine (the name starts with G, I forget the rest since I haven't
use it for a while).

This Belkin's thing is interesting, albeit pricey.  I wonder if it is the
same as the one designed for the Mac (I ask because I saw something like
that at computer city  on sale for $20).

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The problem is that the palmtop uses one FAT, and scandisk expects 2.
Personally I would not recomentd letting scandisk mess with your disk.  You
could try reformating c: and see if it still gives you the same error.  But
never let scandisk mess with your flash disk if it complains like that!  For
minor complaints it seems to work ok (lost clusters, cross-linked files, and
the like).

Domingo

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> I don't have the scandisk.exe from Win95 but did try the version from
> Win98. When I run it on the Palmtop's 32M C: drive I get a message that
> there are problems with the disk. The" more information" option tells me
> that the Media byte is bad and that Scandisk will fix it.  I'm reluctant
to
> let anything from MS "fix" my palmtop. It works fine with the bad media
> byte whatever that is.  (Scandisk did warn that this was a potentially
> destructive fix.) Has anyone else encountered this situation?

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> > You mean the thing actually works?  Does this MD actually own and use
one?
> > My experience with handheld scanners has been negative so far (I own a
> > Logitech one).   My main interest was OCR, but I have found that only
> > flatbed scanners work well for that.  If this thing was *much* more
accurate
> > in spite of the manual handling, I would be *very* interested.  But if
it is
> > yet another, more portable scanner to take pictures with, I'll yawn at
it.
> >
> > Domingo
>
> I don't feel you are comparing apples with apples.  Did you read my
> original posting about this device?  It is not anything like the

I read your original posting, I went to the hp site for more information the
first time, so I don't need to do it again, and your additional comments
confirm what I already know.

As you correctly quoted me above, if it is a more portable, convenient way
of doing the same old thing (not a more *accurate* way), then to me this is
boring (not on your part, of course, but on hp's).  For some people, this is
it! (to quote the coke commercial), but *the basic scanning functionality*
is the main thing  that interests me.  I am not comparing scanners to
information managers, but *accuracy*, as I said in my first post.  Portable
frustration does not impress me.  50 pages of less than 100% *accurate*
images for *OCR* is useless to me. If it is not even close to a desktop
scanner's *accuracy*, what's the use?  I am certain that I am not the only
one with this view of the matter.  (Of course, software is a factor too, but
it doesn't help bad scanning much).

Perhaps I need to look at the site again, but I was hoping for an user's
perspective on this (that's why I replied to Hal's comment.  I cannot tell
from your posts if you are yet an user.  If you are, please share your
*experiences*, not just hype).

Yours in expectation,

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Let me add my voice to those who love X-Finder! This is one of the neatest
palmtop apps I have ever seen! I have already made up my own custom set of
Macintosh-like icons (uploaded to SUPER, with a subset uploaded to the Icon
Repository). Of course, even after a month of playing with it, I still can't
resist tweaking my set-up just that little bit more ...hence these two
questions:

1. How do I need to edit the line in the environment to automatically open a
.wk1 document with the in-built Lotus 123 *if* the document isn't in c:/_dat? In
other words, how do I get X-Finder to pass the entire path to Lotus, and not
just append the filename to Lotus' default path? (For that matter, is there any
way to set Lotus to not assume all its documents will be in c:/_dat?)

2. What the heck is RAMFLASH.XFD for? This came with X-Finder r.9, if not with
earlier versions. The contents consist of these switches:
\'<||a:\;c:\
...and all it seems to do is default to the root of c: split with the root of a:
regardless of the last path. Is that what these switches do? Where can I find
the syntax for these?

Thanks in advance to any who have already figured these out...

Bruce in Toronto
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Thu, 27 May 1999 13:35:20 -0400 (EDT)

54m23s ago ...
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Bruce Martin wrote:

> 1. How do I need to edit the line in the environment to automatically
> open a  .wk1 document with the in-built Lotus 123 *if* the document
> isn't in c:/_dat? In  other words, how do I get X-Finder to pass the
> entire path to Lotus, and not  just append the filename to Lotus'
> default path? (For that matter, is there any  way to set Lotus to not
> assume all its documents will be in c:/_dat?)

Well, last answer first -- In 123 try  /wgdd  (Worksheet Global
Default Directory).  The other part isn't so simple.  Macros in XF are
limited to (AFAIK) 16 characters - including the path.  When I tried
this, I ran out of room, and it only passed a partial path  8-(

> 2. What the heck is RAMFLASH.XFD for? This came with X-Finder r.9, if
> not with  earlier versions. The contents consist of these switches:
> \'<||a:\;c:\
> ...and all it seems to do is default to the root of c: split with the
> root of a:  regardless of the last path. Is that what these switches
> do? Where can I find  the syntax for these?

Yep, that's what it does.  Opens the split-screen file manager in C:
and A:

The syntax was changed from R.8 to R.9  --  but R.8 syntax works.
Here's mine
        a:\|\'<;c:\

I'll have to look thru the docs again to see if I can find the
syntax...

BTW - Nice Icons!

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Thu, 27 May 1999 13:46:37 -0400 (EDT)

03h13m18s ago ...
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> >         3  Use the .xff symbolic link function:  In the XF file
> >            manager, highlight your app, move to the palmtop directory,
> >            and press ÝCtrl¨Ý-¨ to create the link.  You'll need to =
hit
> >            enter twice to launch.
>
> Works fine, but how do you get the icon displayed?

Either find an icon you like, or create one.  Then copy the icon to
icon.lzh (using the same name as the .xff file).  You can either use
regular XF copy or - shortcut - mark the icon, and hit ÝShift¨ÝEnter¨
to automagically copy it to icon.lzh  8-)   Then hit F1 (init) to
reinitialize XF to use the new icon.

HTH

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03h59m23s ago ...
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

>         2  Use multiple commands in the .xfe to do the same thing e.g.
>               a:;cd\games;yahtzee.exe   or
>               \||a:\cd\games;yahtzee.exe    (recommended by XF author)
>

Oops - The syntax in the second line was recommended by the author of
XF - Mr. Nakagawa.  However, when I tried it, it didn't work.
Possibly I made a typo, but I can't find it...   Anyway the first line
syntax will work.

Sorry about that.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>My question is: Is it safer for the serial port to build a 27 ohms
>resistor into the LED light (which gets a little bit darker then) or
>isn't it useful? It works greatly without,

Although I do not know exactly what driver chip is used in the 200LX, IMO
you can safely operate without using a series resistor. The type of devices
used for driving serial interfaces are specifically designed to drive
signals into all reasonable fault conditions e.g. short circuit as this is
what they see when being used on equipment. For example: how many people
have destroyed their serial port because they connected the serial port on
their PC using a null modem connection rather than a straight through
connection? I guess we have all done it sometime and suspect none have
damaged their serial port.

To validate my argument, I have connected a white LED to my serial port
without a series resistor, and taking around 5mA for about 8 hours
continuous use and my serial port is still OK.

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 Martin Cerny wrote:
>I am a novice user of HP 200lx, and I am trying to exchange files with PC
>(win95). I have succesfully installed the Transfile Win 200 v.1.0.3, I use
>the proper HP F1015A cable (which works fine with HPOmniGo), I am in the
>Filer with server mode enabled, but I cannot get my palmtop connected. Only
>response I can see is during Transfile detection of connection speeds: when
>it checks the speed which is set up on the palmtop, the palmtop turns to
the
>server mode. But the detection ends up with "No HP palmtop ... "
>When I try "data communication" on Palmtop with Terminal on Windows, I can
>capture the characters typed on the PC keyboard on the Palmtop screen, but
I
>cannot send/receive any files (Kermit, Zmodem).

Is your serial port turned on, if not you get exactly the symptoms
indicated. The 200LX can still receive characters with the serial port off
and hence enters server mode when commanded to be Transfile, but cannot
transmit characters, so Transfile does not think it is there.

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1. How do I need to edit the line in the environment to automatically open a
..wk1 document with the in-built Lotus 123 *if* the document isn't in c:/_dat?
In other words, how do I get X-Finder to pass the entire path to Lotus, and not
just append the filename to Lotus' default path? (For that matter, is there any
way to set Lotus to not assume all its documents will be in c:/_dat?)
______________________________ Reply Separator_________________________________


Hi Bruce,

What I did was put a Programs Files (programs) folder on the DeskTop,

Then add a sub-folder called Database Files (database). Now All my data/123
files are stored in this sub-folder.

I then set 123's default directory to "database".

HTH


Regards,


Qman...
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Subject: problem in communication with PC

I am a novice user of HP 200lx, and I am trying to exchange files with PC=

(win95). I have succesfully installed the Transfile Win 200 v.1.0.3, I us=
e
the proper HP F1015A cable (which works fine with HPOmniGo), I am in the
et cetera.....
Martin Cerny
-------------------
Martin,
This worked for me.  I run Win98 on my home pc  and I have a scanner and
other stuff that uses the same db9 port.  Seems the software conflicted
with using the port for my HP. While in Win,  I hit control-alt-delete to=

bring up the applications running and closed them one by one and tested b=
y
Transfile connection.  After a few tries, I learned which ones conflicted=
. =

Now Transfile works great for me.  Maybe this will help...
Tom Nemeth
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Intermittently when I open my HP200LX and turn it on the screen is just a bunch if lines, mainly horizontal. If I move the screen back at more of a right angle everything is fine. Some times it has re-booted when this occurs, and sometimes I get a "battery low" beep even when the batteries have more than 50 percent charge.

Can anyone give me some idea of the problem?



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This happened on my first 200LX after several months.

The lines got more persistent as time goes on regardless of the angle I tried.
One day the whole screen was black.

I sent the unit back to HP (still was on warranty), but I think your prognosis
isn't good without some hardware intervention (which the hardware weenies in
this group can probably elaborate on).  Can't recall if it's the connector, the
cable or the infamous elastomeric strip (sp?) or how hard it is to try and fix
yourself....but I'm pretty sure it's bad news otherwise.

- Longden





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Intermittently when I open my HP200LX and turn it on the screen is just a bunch
if lines, mainly horizontal. If I move the screen back at more of a right angle
everything is fine. Some times it has re-booted when this occurs, and sometimes
I get a "battery low" beep even when the batteries have more than 50 percent
charge.

Can anyone give me some idea of the problem?

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 14:48:24 -0700
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On Thu, 27 May 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I sent the unit back to HP (still was on warranty), but I think your
> prognosis isn't good without some hardware intervention (which the
> hardware weenies in this group can probably elaborate on).  Can't
> recall if it's the connector, the cable or the infamous elastomeric
> strip (sp?) or how hard it is to try and fix yourself....but I'm
> pretty sure it's bad news otherwise.

I hesitate to help out for fear of being called a "hardware weenie" <g>,
but I've had this happen to two of my palmtops (a 200LX and a 1000CX) and
in both cases the problem was the display cable between the motherboard
and the screen.  The good news is it's a relatively easy thing to replace;
the bad news is that you have to have a spare palmtop to get one out of.
And there's always the remote possibility that it might be something
totally different...

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 17:58:03 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> The best solution for me was the OmniPrint way. OmniPrint is a little
COM-program that has > to be started on the desktop. I make a clean DOS-boot
(e.g. Windows 95 safe mode command line > only). Then just start OmniPrint.
Standard is COM1-LPT1. i.e. all that is coming in from COM1 > goes to LPT1. Of
course you can use other ports too.

Though I haven't tried it, I believe that you can also "print through" a desktop
PC from a palmtop with the standard DOS Interlink/Interserver.

An advantage to this would be that you shouldn't need to carry a diskette.
Simply keep Interlink on the palmtop, and most PCs you find will have DOS 6 or
later, including Interserver, already installed.

Any comments from someone who has done this?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 17:07:24 -0500
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Greetings, fellow palmtop users!

As you know, the 200LX will shut itself off (when on batteries)
after three minutes without a keystroke.  Every now and then my
unit seems to shut off much more quickly.  I don't have much
data, but my impression is that it usually happens when my AAs
are low.

Yesterday I was able to reproduce and quantify this behavior.
My NiCds were at 2 bars remaining (in Setup) and I had a graph
displayed in 1-2-3.  The unit shut off after 1 minute without
a keystroke.

Is this a known behavior?

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 09:25:01 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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happens when my AAs
>are low.
Hi Ted

It is mentioned in the manual I believe..  Time goes from 3 to 1 min at a
certain voltage.

I dont recall exactly what the details are.

Russell

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 19:27:20 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 27 May 1999 19:21:12 -0400 (EDT)

01h13m47s ago ...
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Ted Heise wrote:

> but my impression is that it usually happens when my AAs
> are low.

Correct.

> Yesterday I was able to reproduce and quantify this behavior.
> My NiCds were at 2 bars remaining (in Setup) and I had a graph
> displayed in 1-2-3.  The unit shut off after 1 minute without
> a keystroke.
>
> Is this a known behavior?

Yep.  It usually happens after a "Main Battery Very Low" warning.  Hmmm
- if you had the bars showing in Setup, you must have changed your
battery setting to Alkaline.  Had you done a hard reboot earlier? - that
will do it.

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 20:20:10 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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Has anyone written a macro for data entry that after pressing enter, it
automatically goes down a cell?
I have gotten so spoiled with the feature of the newer versions that
automatically does this for you, that I had forgotten how I detest pressing
down arrow after each number.

Now, in 1999, I have decided to lose the notebook and carry the palmtop
only. I have an external keypad that works well with the 200lx, but that
data entry thing is killing me...

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 12:28:43 +1200
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>Has anyone written a macro for data entry that after pressing enter, it
>automatically goes down a cell?

Just press the 'down' key instead of 'enter'.

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 12:00:20 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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ÝCan we ask our prolific and much-appreciated SUPER Japanese translator
 to translate the TUTORIAL.TDB and documentation included in Todo.exm ?¨

Some of the non-obvious things I've found so far are:

1/ A definition of the different frame types:

ÝStart = Start Date, Now = Today's Date, Due = Due Date, Limit = the
limit field, which I think means the amount of time before the due
date at which you may not have enough time to complete the action
unless you start it now.¨

Before:      No Start specified, and Now < Due.
Yet:         Now < Start < Due
Normal:      Start < Now < Due
Limit:       Now + Limit >= Due
Today:       Now = Due
After:       Now > Due

2/ I found that Shift-Ctrl-ÝUp Arrow,Down Arrow¨ didn't change the
size of the datacard as advertised in the F1 help screen, unless I had
Caps Lock engaged.  Can anyone else confirm this behaviour ?  I'm
worried that something else I'm running is confusing the key mapping.

3/ The File Output Setting allows you to store all "Done" items in a
file (which is appended to whenever a Done item is automatically
deleted from the screen - when this happens seems to be set by the #
of Keep Done ToDo in the setting screen).

4/ The "LastLine" refered to in the settings screens is one
horizonatal and one vertical line which form a box which identifies
the boundary of active ToDo items on the screen.  You can set the
minimize function to only minimize inside this boundary.

5/ Note that the "LastLine" refered to in the Edit/ClipBoard menu item
is completely different concept - it is last text line of the current
ToDo item.

6/ One of the best things is Todo.exm is Open Source ! (Although I
haven't been able to recompile it yet, due to a missing keycodes.h
file).  And so is X-Finder! (I have been able to recompile it).

It's good to see that the Open Source movement is well advanced in the
Japanese HP200LX community.  With Stefan's recent decision to make the
source code to LXCIC available, it seems to be growing here as well :-)

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 22:28:39 -0400
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              Peter Prime <pprime@GENAUST.COM.AU>
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          Hello,

     Curtis Cameron's FreeCell is a great game, we have spent many hours
     with it and many hundreds of games have all been ultimately solved.
     (many thanks, Curtis).

     However, my wife and I have both been stymied by game no 947293.

     Quite a few hours have gone into this game, and we are starting to
     feel it is not solveable.

     If anyone is interested in trying this game, we would be interested in
     your results (would love to hear it is solvable).

     Cheers,

     Peter and Pam Prime
     Bacchus Marsh, Victoria, Australia

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 21:29:00 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Does anyone know the reverse of the DOS EXPAND command? For example, EXPAND
uncompresses XCOPY.EX_ to XCOPY.EXE. What routine will do the compression for
EXPAND?

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY 82324

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 21:52:31 -0500
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On 05-27 04:48pm CDT, the following was written:

> I hesitate to help out for fear of being called a "hardware weenie" <g>,

Weenie?!? I always just thought you were a hardware geek <g> and I'm glad
some of you are, if you weren't we wouldn't have anybody to answer all these
questions!

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 21:35:44 -0700
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>   Date:
>       Thu, 27 May 1999 12:10:51 -0400
>   From:
>       Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>



>The problem is that the palmtop uses one FAT, and scandisk expects 2.
>Personally I would not recomentd letting scandisk mess with your disk.
You
>could try reformating c: and see if it still gives you the same error.
But
>never let scandisk mess with your flash disk if it complains like
that!  For
>minor complaints it seems to work ok (lost clusters, cross-linked
files, and
>the like).
>
>Domingo

How do you reformat c: ?
I have a 32 meg double speed. Last week, while in a dos program (outside
of sys manager) an appt evidently turned on my computer and the self
timer didn't turn it back off.

Needless to say, the batteries went completely dead, the computer locked
up, and c: and f: got wiped out.

I tried to reformat c:, but the computer gave me a message that it
wouldn't format c:.

I deleted all files, but only ended up with 16 megs free.

Next, checkdisk found no errors, so I ran scandisk (for dos) It
correctly fixed the fat table, got rid of all problems and I advanced to
scan the disk for errors.

There were numerous errors mapped on the visual map (indicated by a "B"
to indicate at least partial errors.

However, on the upper right of the screen where scandisk reported what
it was doing, it found NO errors. Now I don't know which was correct.

Re-formatting would probably be safest, but How do you do that?

Thanks,

Bob

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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 21:56:42 -0700
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bob wrote:
>
> >   Date:
> >       Thu, 27 May 1999 12:10:51 -0400
> >   From:
> >       Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@STRATO.NET>
>
> >The problem is that the palmtop uses one FAT, and scandisk expects 2.
> >Personally I would not recomentd letting scandisk mess with your disk.
> You
> >could try reformating c: and see if it still gives you the same error.
> But
> >never let scandisk mess with your flash disk if it complains like
> that!  For
> >minor complaints it seems to work ok (lost clusters, cross-linked
> files, and
> >the like).
> >
> >Domingo
>
> How do you reformat c: ?
> I have a 32 meg double speed. Last week, while in a dos program (outside
> of sys manager) an appt evidently turned on my computer and the self
> timer didn't turn it back off.
>
> Needless to say, the batteries went completely dead, the computer locked
> up, and c: and f: got wiped out.
>
> I tried to reformat c:, but the computer gave me a message that it
> wouldn't format c:.
>
> I deleted all files, but only ended up with 16 megs free.
>
> Next, checkdisk found no errors, so I ran scandisk (for dos) It
> correctly fixed the fat table, got rid of all problems and I advanced to
> scan the disk for errors.
>
> There were numerous errors mapped on the visual map (indicated by a "B"
> to indicate at least partial errors.
>
> However, on the upper right of the screen where scandisk reported what
> it was doing, it found NO errors. Now I don't know which was correct.
>
> Re-formatting would probably be safest, but How do you do that?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
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Item #109804372

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 08:28:27 +0100
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              Martin Cerny <cerny@NATUR.CUNI.CZ>
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Thanks all a lot, we may be getting close. What does it mean:
> Is your serial port turned on, if not you get exactly the symptoms ..?
If it is that in Setup - Comms -> I have COM1 Port DOS enabled. Is there
something else? It is obvious that there is SOME communication going
through, but not that one I want, so I believe the trick is in some
settings.
Regarding the other PC sw conflicts: I tried it on other machine with nt4.0
with the same result.

Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: problem in communication with PC


> Martin Cerny wrote:
> >I am a novice user of HP 200lx, and I am trying to exchange files with PC
> >(win95). I have succesfully installed the Transfile Win 200 v.1.0.3, I
use
> >the proper HP F1015A cable (which works fine with HPOmniGo), I am in the
> >Filer with server mode enabled, but I cannot get my palmtop connected.
Only
> >response I can see is during Transfile detection of connection speeds:
when
> >it checks the speed which is set up on the palmtop, the palmtop turns to
> the
> >server mode. But the detection ends up with "No HP palmtop ... "
> >When I try "data communication" on Palmtop with Terminal on Windows, I
can
> >capture the characters typed on the PC keyboard on the Palmtop screen,
but
> I
> >cannot send/receive any files (Kermit, Zmodem).
>
> Is your serial port turned on, if not you get exactly the symptoms
> indicated. The 200LX can still receive characters with the serial port off
> and hence enters server mode when commanded to be Transfile, but cannot
> transmit characters, so Transfile does not think it is there.
>
> Laurence Harvey
>
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 17:34:25 +0930
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I have contacted the todo.exm author.  He writes:

> I'm very grad to know that foreign LXer use my soft, it's grate for me!
> If you have any problem or question about my program, don't hesitate to
> contact me. It's also my pleasure to discuss about my soft with its user :)
>
> And, I want to know about HPLX-L mailing list.
> Can I ask you to tell more about it?
>
> # Please allow my poor English :)
>
> May the source be with you...    fia <taiyo@forest.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp>

So we may have a new subscriber to HPLX-LX, and if we have any
questions about the todo.exm program, then he is very happy to answer
them.

He has supplied me with the missing file, so I should be able to
recompile todo.exm from source code now, and make any changes required
for English language usage (although at the moment, I can't think of
anything that needs changing).

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 10:50:19 +0200
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Rod,

> ÝCan we ask our prolific and much-appreciated SUPER Japanese translator
>  to translate the TUTORIAL.TDB and documentation included in Todo.exm =
?¨

where did you find todo.exm?

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 10:26:43 +0200
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              BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
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              for 12.99$
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Hello friends,
Hope this helps some. I have just bought two of these and though preowned,
they look and work like new. The price seems right also. Mr. Byron mailed
(when I asked) that he still has many in stock. The place to contact.

>the direct link to my modem page, to make it easier for you:
http://home.eznet.net/~kento/mhzpcm.html
>Kent Byron >"Kento"
>Rochester, NY, (716)-703-9983 Phone and Voicemail, (716)-442-3402 Fax
kento@eznet.net
http://home.eznet.net/~kento

I have no connection with this business. Just someone that has been served
well even though the goods had to be sent all the way to Europe.

Happy modeming for under 150mAmp current draw

Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@med.muni.cz
http://med.muni.cz/~bourek
http://www.ivf.cz
voice +420-5-41248606

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:09 +0200
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Hello all,
have worked out (and verified through 6 months use) a definitive crack
repair (yes, the famous crack at the right hinge). This setup does not show
on the outside of the 200LX.  The fix is only for people with some
thechnical skills.
1. Dismantle the case of the LX as has been described in detail many times.
2. Lift the bordering of the display in one corner and slowly disattach the
sticker from the case plastic.
3. Using torque screwdriver unscrew the four screws in the corners of the
display case.
4. Disengage the plastic frame holding the display from the top shell of the
LX.
5. To be able to take out the LCD display with electronics out from the top
cover, you will have to dismantle the right hinge "brake" or mechanism that
is responsible for allowing the tilting of the screen when the LX is opened.
6. To do this, first observe how the hinge mechanism is constructed, so you
will be able to reconstruct it after the repair. Take a sharp pockte knife
and slowly pry off the metal slieve on the left side of the pin. Carefull,
as the setup is spring loaded. Do it over a large piece of white paper not
to loose any parts. Once this is done, you can take out the LCD screen from
the top plastic shell.
7. Check the place near the right hinge, where you noticed the fine crack on
the outside of the clamshell casing from the inside. The crack is usually so
thin, that you will not see it from the inside.
8. Taking a sharp tool, I used a scalpel blade, but any sharp knife or
cutter can be used and shave off some of the dark green plastic in the area
of the crack (spot about 1x1cm) / yes actually thinn the plastic of the case
in the area of the crack!!
9. Border (frame) this area by sticking several layers of paper tape around
it.
10. Go to a hobby shop and buy some acrylic resine used for molding small
object or a clear plastic acrylic resin used for embedding insects etc. (I
actually used some stuff dentists use for making dental molds).
11. Mix this stuff into thick paste, pour into the prepared area on the
inside of the top shell in the area of the crack and let to set. The overall
thickness of the plate you will be creating is only the depth you have
shaved into the original green plastic plus about one millimeter above (into
the frame you have made from the paper tape).
12. By this you have welded the original plastic from the inside (it is
partly dissolved by the thinner used with methacrylate resine) and
reinforced it with about 1,5 millimeters of the poured-in plastic.
13. Using the sharp tool you have, shave off any excess material to allow
puting the LCD screen back into it's shell.
14. Now for the tricky way of reassembling the hinge spring mechanism. Get
someone (if you have a child, it helps in this part) to squeeze the spring
that is in the inside of the mechanism with tweezers. Take some thin but
strong thread (I used surgical braided nylon used for sutures No.3, but I
think that dental floss should be even better!!) and tie the spring
together, so it will stay compressed even when the tweezers are released.
Tie it on two sides or even in three places, keep the knots on the right
outer side of the spring. You will have to have patience and probably repeat
this several times.
15. reconstruct the hinge mechnism and put the metal slieve back on to keep
it secure. Using the knife cut the knots to release the spring inside the
reconstituted mechanism (yes, some parts of the string will probably stay
inside, if you cut the stich carefully, you might be able to pull the string
out form the inside much in the same way as stiches are released after skin
sutures).
16. Put the LX casing back together.

This done 6 months ago when the famous crack first started showing up on my
200LX (lots of heavy everyday use), there is no sign of the innitial crack
on the outside now not to speak of any progress in cracking.
This repair might be for the more brave, but the cosmetics are perfect and
it seems to solve this small problem of our dear companions.

Lots of luck in repairs and sorry for the long mail.

Ales Bourek {:>
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 05:04:07 -0500
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> <I totally disagree with your above statement that the serial/parallel
> converter is very slow, and sometimes makes printing impossible.>
>
> I never could test a converter personally but this was the (until now) =
unique statement of the list members. Some told, that their printer =
stopped to print because of the slowlyness. Anyway: I think, that a =
desktop with running OmniPrint is a freeware
> solution. The only advantage of a serial/parallel converter is the =
ability to print on the road.
>
> -goe-

Wait a minute, if you feel the only advantage of a serial/parallel
converter is the ability to print on the road, why on earth would you
ever be using a portable device such as the LX?  Why not just do all
your work on a desktop, or use pencil & paper!  Why have any portable
devices?  Don't understand or agree with your replies and position.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
System: HP 200LX-Double Speed 8 meg palmtop PC
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 05:04:10 -0500
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> Along these lines, Canon once offered the Powershot 600 (or 650?) =
digital
> camera, that was supposed to have come with OCR software.  The idea was =
that you
> could use this autofocusing digital camera to take pictures that would =
be OCR
> quaility input.
>
> I assume the camera had all the standard digital camera features =
including
> view/preview and delete such as on the CapShare.
>
> Don't know how well this worked in practice, but it's an example of the =
same
> thing... a self contained scanner (with alleged OCR capability)... and =
a camera
> to boot!
>
> Even if this model didn't make it, I think this is the way to go.  A =
digital
> camera should be capable of scanner quality repros...sharp images =
defines the
> nature of a any good camera.  Plus the image would be taken in one shot =
vs
> multiple passes for the CapShare.
>
> OTOH, it may well be that digital cameras aren't fully up to the task =
yet (at a
> reasonable price).. and that the CapShare does a better job (for now).
>
> My $.02
>
> - Longden

Oh thats just great Longden, just as I was putting the finishing
touches on presenting a business case to my wife of why I just had to
have the new CapShare, you go and throw a twist into it and bring up
the camera thing.  Now what am I supposed to do?  If I try to convince
her why I need to go the camera route, she will tell me we already have
one, and she won't understand why that has nothing to do with it, that I
have to have this new one.  Way too many toys I guess, or is that
possible?  I know I can't take them all with me, but how about just my
LX?




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 05:04:13 -0500
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> Any products out there that could work w/the 200 that present the =
screen
> display on a small device clipped to one's spectacles?  I've seen this
> style device in custom computers - notably the "wearable internet PC"
> made popular last year.  And I've head of PCMCIA cards that can be used
> to drive an external desktop display.  So.... has anyone put all this
> together and come up with a hands-free display for the 200LX?
>
> Chris "Always Dreamin'" Lott

Is there even anything that would allow the LX to run an external
monitor?  I know of the users using the newton keyboard.  Just to maybe
do some occasion power typing, using something that is so familiar, the
LX.



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Email: hocking@flash.net
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> "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone experiences in using the MSDOS tool power.exe on the =
Palmtop?
> > I have the line
> >      DEVICE=3DA:\TOOLS\POWER.EXE ADV:MAX
> > in my config.sys
>
> What is the likelyhood that an old generic DOS 5 power
> management utility TSR program is going to do a better job
> than the specially written (by HP) BIOS built into of the
> palmtop itself?  I suspect it will probably just interfere.
>
> Stan

Also where did you get this power.exe program.  I have the full MS-DOS
5.0 disk's files stored on a directory on my flash card, and after your
original post about power.exe, I went looking for it, and could not find
it.



Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 05:04:18 -0500
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> The first statement is correct for most serial/parallel converters,
> including mine (the name starts with G, I forget the rest since I =
haven't
> use it for a while).
>
> This Belkin's thing is interesting, albeit pricey.  I wonder if it is =
the
> same as the one designed for the Mac (I ask because I saw something =
like
> that at computer city  on sale for $20).
>
> Domingo

I think the cable you are referring to is Greenwich's.  I did purchase
that at first until I discovered it would not print from DOS.  My
Belkin's does.  But I still feel that both cables print fast enough,
with output in less than 30 seconds, so I did not find that slow
statement to hold true for me.  Yes, the Belkin's cable is pricey, but
what things for the palmtops aren't, compared to desktop stuff.  I don't
think the Belkin's cable was system dependent, it was pure serial to
parallel, but really don't know, just know it works well & fast




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Email: hocking@flash.net
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 12:46:35 +0100
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> > solution. The only advantage of a serial/parallel converter is the
> ability to print on the road.
> >
> > -goe-
>
> Wait a minute, if you feel the only advantage of a serial/parallel
> converter is the ability to print on the road, why on earth would you
> ever be using a portable device such as the LX?  Why not just do all
> your work on a desktop, or use pencil & paper!  Why have any portable
> devices?  Don't understand or agree with your replies and position.

hi,

I think your statement is not fair. I believe that the number of
LX-Users who need to print on the road and who do so is pretty
small. In my opinion the fact that you can take your Palmtop
everywhere even minimizes the need to print anything (I used to
print read.me-files and docs of new software formerly, now I put
them on my HP)
If I would want to have every component of my desktop as a
portable device, it will not be portable anymore. I think that
using a palmtop and printing at the desktop is no contradiction
(which your message implies), and even makes sense to most
people.

Reinhard


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Date:         Thu, 27 May 1999 22:02:47 -0500
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Russell Hemery writes:
>
> It is mentioned in the manual I believe..  Time goes from 3 to 1 min at a
> certain voltage.


I looked through the manual, but couldn't find a mention of it.
Of course I could have missed it.  :)

Ted

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Peniel Romanelli writes:
>
> Yep.  It usually happens after a "Main Battery Very Low" warning.  Hmmm
> - if you had the bars showing in Setup, you must have changed your
> battery setting to Alkaline.  Had you done a hard reboot earlier? - that
> will do it.

This may sound silly, but I always use NiCds with Setup set
to alkalines (unless I'm charging) so I can see how much is
left of the charge.

I've only seen a low battery warning once or twice, and it's
been many months since the last one.

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 07:32:23 -0500
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> Is there even anything that would allow the LX to run an external
> monitor?  I know of the users using the newton keyboard.  Just to maybe
> do some occasion power typing, using something that is so familiar, the
> LX.

First, I'll mention a "weird" technique I figured out that allows me to
do the "power typing" you describe from my palmtop using either a normal
terminal or a PC running terminal emulation software.  Be advised: it
only works in plain text-mode operations, and there are few editors that
I've found that will work correctly.  You use the CTTY command to re-route
all screen and keyboard accesses out the serial port specified.  I can
send you details if you want.  If you get this working at 19.2K or 38K
baud, the you're really cookin'!!!

Regarding the wearable spectacles... just after I posted the message
yesterday, I went into a co-worker's office, and he had a demo board
running for a company that sells these small wearable displays!!  The
one he had was a color model that was only 320x200, but he reports that
they sell higher resolution monochrome units now, and are coming out
with a VGA-compatible color one soon!

Now, yesterday I learned that no screen signals are available on the
PCMCIA port in a normal 200LX, so that nixes the easy interface idea.
Maybe such a device could be limited to text mode, and just hook up
to the com port in conjunction w/the CTTY scheme.  It would be limited,
yes, but would open up some more applications of the palmtop.  Am I
crazy???

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 09:32:15 -0400
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Fri, 28 May 1999 09:12:40 -0400 (EDT)

03h08m22s ago ...
On Fri, 28 May 1999, Robert Hocking wrote:

> I think the cable you are referring to is Greenwich's.  I did purchase
> that at first until I discovered it would not print from DOS.  My
> Belkin's does.

Hmmm-- I've seen this "won't print from DOS" thing here before.  Never
could figure out how the cable would know whether it was printing from
DOS or SysMgr...  Probably what's happening is that the serial port is
set to the wrong speed or parameters in DOS.  I think most palmtop S-P
convertors are fixed at 9600 bps, so the port must be also.  You need
the line    MODE COM1:96,N,8,1,P   in autoexec.bat.  If you use any
software that changes the port settings, you'll have to reset the port
before printing.  (I use a little S-P adapter called BSE Serial Port
that was available from EduCalc years ago).  Does the Belkin cable
auto-detect port speed?

> But I still feel that both cables print fast enough,
> with output in less than 30 seconds, so I did not find that slow
> statement to hold true for me.

Yep.  Since these run at 9600 bps, that's 960 characters/second.
Should be more than fast enough to keep up with just about any
printer.  There's no doubt that printing large graphics at 9600 bps IS
really slow, though.  A full page graphic at 360 dpi may be about 1 MB
- so figure maybe 15-20 minutes.

Regards,

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 08:46:10 -0500
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> Re-formatting would probably be safest, but How do you do that?

They way to reformat a 32MB or 64MB internal drive is to run the RDT2T.EXE
program from DOS.

Cheers,
Mack

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<<     However, my wife and I have both been stymied by game no
947293.>>

I haven't been able to solve it yet.

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<<Is there even anything that would allow the LX to run an external
monitor?  I know of the users using the newton keyboard.  Just to maybe
do some occasion power typing, using something that is so familiar, the
LX.>>

I have written a driver for a specific SVGA card that works with the palmtop
(Ez2Tv), but the newest version requires an external power adapter to the
card to make it work for any length of time in the LX.  Presentations should
be possible with exported PowerPoint presentations to some format such as
GIF or JPG.

The card is expensive and there is currently no software to send a JPG or
GIF image to the card, but the driver I have written should make it fairly
easy to port software over to talk to the card.

The card is slow to update so it isn't usable in realtime for editing and
such, but I have written a program to send the HP screen to an external
monitor.  It could be useful if you could handle an update of the screen to
the monitor with long intervals in between.  The card also supports output
to a TV.

Check out www.ezshow.com for the product I am talking about.  The Ez2Vga
card doesn't look like it has a way to power it externally so I don't know
if it is possible to use that card in the palmtop without external power.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 16:37:24 +0200
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Mack,

> They way to reformat a 32MB or 64MB internal drive is to run the =
RDT2T.EXE
> program from DOS.

Which are the latest upgrade driver versions and of which date are
they.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:31:20 -0400
From: Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@umich.edu>
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References: <4.1.19990515214730.00924830@is2.hk.super.net>
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Gerhard,

Thanks for your very clear reply to my questions.  I also received some
private response that were very helpful.  Your mention of the indexed
records and the garbage collection task reminded me of my computer
science classes in grad school where I had to write those routines every
day.

I reduced my file size by about 50% by extracting appointments AFTER a
certain date.  (Actually, I was watching TV while I was playing with the
HP, so I'm not exactly sure what I did, but the results were an intact
database, with 50% less file space, and the "offending" records removed
as seen in Finder>View File).

It would be nice if the HP had a garbage collection routine that could
be invoked either as a background task or as a menu option (on the 200
or in CPACK).  I have a 1MB 200, so every 10k is precious.

Thanks to you and the others who emailed me.  This list is outstanding
in both technical expertise and response time in addressing issues.  (ps
- I enjoy the fluff most of the time.)

Regards,

L. Brooks


Gerhard Gonter wrote:
>
> Loran Brooks wrote:
> > I noticed that the appointment file on my 200 has data from appointments
> > that have long been deleted.
> > Ý...¨
> > 1.  Why is this old data still in my appt.adb file?
>
> Deleted items are just marked as garbage and will be reused later on.
> The reason for this is that the appointment book manages index pointers
> between individual records and deleting one item would require the
> application to possibly fix all index pointers in all other records
> by carefully examining *every* remaining record.
>
> Therefore, the deleted items are kept in their slots to avoid
> reorganizing
> the whole database.  These slots will be reused for new entries.
> This is simply a trade-off between time (to rearrange the database)
> and space (to keep deleted items around).
>
> Deleted or checked-off instances of recurring events need to be kept in
> the database just that the application knows it was deleted.  Actually,
> checking-off a recurring entry duplicates it.
>

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Gerhard,

Thanks for your very clear reply to my questions.  I also received some
private response that were very helpful.  Your mention of the indexed
records and the garbage collection task reminded me of my computer
science classes in grad school where I had to write those routines every
day.

I reduced my file size by about 50% by extracting appointments AFTER a
certain date.  (Actually, I was watching TV while I was playing with the
HP, so I'm not exactly sure what I did, but the results were an intact
database, with 50% less file space, and the "offending" records removed
as seen in Finder>View File).

It would be nice if the HP had a garbage collection routine that could
be invoked either as a background task or as a menu option (on the 200
or in CPACK).  I have a 1MB 200, so every 10k is precious.

Thanks to you and the others who emailed me.  This list is outstanding
in both technical expertise and response time in addressing issues.  (ps
- I enjoy the fluff most of the time.)

Regards,

L. Brooks


Gerhard Gonter wrote:
>
> Loran Brooks wrote:
> > I noticed that the appointment file on my 200 has data from appointments
> > that have long been deleted.
> > Ý...¨
> > 1.  Why is this old data still in my appt.adb file?
>
> Deleted items are just marked as garbage and will be reused later on.
> The reason for this is that the appointment book manages index pointers
> between individual records and deleting one item would require the
> application to possibly fix all index pointers in all other records
> by carefully examining *every* remaining record.
>
> Therefore, the deleted items are kept in their slots to avoid
> reorganizing
> the whole database.  These slots will be reused for new entries.
> This is simply a trade-off between time (to rearrange the database)
> and space (to keep deleted items around).
>
> Deleted or checked-off instances of recurring events need to be kept in
> the database just that the application knows it was deleted.  Actually,
> checking-off a recurring entry duplicates it.
>

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Thanks for reading...
Anyone want to part with a broken HP95LX.
Looking at replacing the LCD on another one.

Also, Looking for a memory upgrade PCMCIA to expand
from 1MegaByte.

Best Regards,
 David
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Does anyone know where I can obtain ICNDSP.EXE and DATEMAN.EXE?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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where did you find todo.exm?

Regards

Helmuth

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------


ToDo Board 2.1 (TODO21.LZH) can be found at:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm





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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 12:00:57 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> Greetings, fellow palmtop users!
>
> As you know, the 200LX will shut itself off (when on batteries)
> after three minutes without a keystroke.  Every now and then my
> unit seems to shut off much more quickly.  I don't have much
> data, but my impression is that it usually happens when my AAs
> are low.
>
> Yesterday I was able to reproduce and quantify this behavior.
> My NiCds were at 2 bars remaining (in Setup) and I had a graph
> displayed in 1-2-3.  The unit shut off after 1 minute without
> a keystroke.
>
> Is this a known behavior?
>
> Ted

Ted,

I have not had this happen yet, but I charge my rechargeables daily,
actually all day while at work.  I am curious as to why you have the
setup showing the bars?  That is for display of the voltage of alkaline
batteries, not rechargeables.  Do you know you have the battery type
set for alkalines?  You do know that rechargeables have a lower voltage
per cell than alkalines, 1.25 vs 1.5, which makes the bars your using
to measure your battery voltage, off scale.  Does this also mean that
you don't charge your rechargeables in your LX?  If not, how do you
recharge them?  I use D&A's ABC/LX software to take care of my
rechargeables being recharged in my LX.  Just FYI.




Best Regards, Robert Hocking
Email: hocking@flash.net
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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Terrence wrote:
> >> Try http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm
> >> I found it and it seems to be a great tool!....
>
> Do people really use ToDo.exm or FIT.exm and what kinds of uses have you
> found?

I really like ToDo.exm.  Havent tried Fit.exm.  I have een using ToDo
for the last several days.  I keep track of all of my todos, due dates
for work and fun.  The ability to specify default frame types let's me
quickly find those todos which are due today or late.  I categorize my
todos under different column titles.  Using the 3 zoom levels built
into the HP makes viewing the todo notes easier on my eyes.  Cut and
paste between Todo files is straight forward.  CSV import/export is
pretty basic. The search function works but seems to be case
sensitive.

I figured out how to change the day format from Japanese to
English (these are the letters to the right of the date fields).
Go to options, setting.  You'll see a day format field.  Change that
to SuMoTuWeThFrSa or S M TuFThSa (note that you need a space between S
M and Tu.

So far, so good.

Barbara

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I figured out how to change the day format from Japanese to
English (these are the letters to the right of the date fields).
Go to options, setting.  You'll see a day format field.  Change that
to SuMoTuWeThFrSa or S M TuFThSa (note that you need a space between S
M and Tu.

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------

Great find/fix on the date, thanks. (:-)


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Subject:      Memorial Day extended memory

David

>Also, Looking for a memory upgrade PCMCIA
>to expand from 1MegaByte.
>
   Memorial Day Sale-------------
Looking to part with a 6MB memory & smart modem
and 32MB simple flash with a lot of public
domain stuff, plus an old 5MB IBM flashcard.
   How about $250 for all tree?


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>

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The following macro will let you enter data by pressing 'Enter' . You can
Range-Name-Create this macro as \0  so that each time you open the sheet
having this macro, the macro starts automatically. Control-Break is what
you need to stop it.
{?}~
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There were some postings about CF storage for the palmtops. The following story
may be of interest to those:

"Lexar Media, a supplier of  high-performance digital film, filed  a lawsuit
against SanDisk, alleging unfair competition, false advertising, trade libel,
and interference with Lexar's business."

Full story at:
<http://www.techweb.com/wire/finance/story/INV19990528S0001>http://www.tech
web.com/wire/finance/story/INV19990528S0001

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<html>
There were some postings about CF storage for the palmtops. The following
story may be of interest to those:<br>
<br>
&quot;Lexar Media, a supplier of&nbsp; high-performance digital film,
filed&nbsp; a lawsuit against SanDisk, alleging unfair competition, false
advertising, trade libel, and interference with Lexar's
business.&quot;<br>
<br>
Full story at:<br>
<a href="http://www.techweb.com/wire/finance/story/INV19990528S0001">http://www.techweb.com/wire/finance/story/INV19990528S0001</a><br>
<br>
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Me either!!!
Dan Carrington





Hal Goldstein wrote:
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> <<     However, my wife and I have both been stymied by game no
> 947293.>>
>
> I haven't been able to solve it yet.
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I am happy to announce that through the efforts of my testers, I am confident
in releasing ccLXPOP, and noted that it was up on SUPER - Thanks, Mitch, for
taking action in such a timely manner. ccLXPOP version 1.0 has one additional
feature - it will tell you if ccMail is active and shutdown to prevent any
problems from occurring. As the instructions state, ccLXOP must be run with
ccMail closed, but ccLXPOP 1.0 will check to make sure you are following the
rules <g>. Many thanks to the guys who took on alpha testing of the product -
the biggest issue seems to be getting the packet driver to work, but if you can
work that through, everyone else seems to be having good fortune with the
program itself. I would like in  particular to thank Qman for his relentless
haranguing ;)!! He was most helpful in getting the address book and address
lists working. Also Rod Whitby for providing a well documented and
straightforward open source program.

To all my alpha testers again, thank you, and download version 1.0 from SUPER!

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Hello

I have about 2 meg of emails to read and when I run pnrti to index them it keeps
giving me a stack overflow and won't index them. Does anyone know what I can
do about this? Thanks

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Hello

I have about 2 meg of emails to read and when I run pnrti to index them it
keeps
giving me a stack overflow and won't index them. Does anyone know what I can
do about this? Thanks

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------

Hi John,

Whats your stacks set at in your config.sys? I have it set at Stacks=9,256.

also are you leaving your mail on the server?


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Date:         Fri, 28 May 1999 17:46:14 -0700
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Comments: To: "Barbara L. Moy" <bmoy@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On 28-May-99, Barbara L. Moy wrote:
> I really like ToDo.exm.  Havent tried Fit.exm.  I have een using ToDo

Fit.exm seems to be just like ToDo.exm but without the dates.  Kind of like
a freeform idea editor.

> for the last several days.  I keep track of all of my todos, due dates
> for work and fun.  The ability to specify default frame types let's me
> quickly find those todos which are due today or late.  I categorize my
> todos under different column titles.  Using the 3 zoom levels built
> into the HP makes viewing the todo notes easier on my eyes.  Cut and
> paste between Todo files is straight forward.  CSV import/export is
> pretty basic. The search function works but seems to be case
> sensitive.

Have you basically transplanted all of your Todo's from the Appt.pim to the
new ToDo.exm or does it serve a different purpose for you.

Do you fire up ToDo everyday to see what you have to do?  Can it pop-up by
itself when the Appt daily reminder appears?  One of the nice things about
the Todo page on the Appt.pim is that it is readily available and has all
of the calendar functions available.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
Comments: To: qman@earthlink.net

>
> Hi John,
>
> Whats your stacks set at in your config.sys? I have it set at Stacks=9,256.
>
> also are you leaving your mail on the server?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Qman...

Hello Qman

I didn't have a stacks in my config.sys so I tried 9,256. I still gave me a
stack overflow. Would setting it larger help?

John

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 00:23:43 -0800
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Hello Qman

I didn't have a stacks in my config.sys so I tried 9,256. I still gave me a
stack overflow. Would setting it larger help?

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------
Hi John,

That might help, but I doubt it.

But first try this:

In your pnr.cfg forward the end there is a PNRTI section, try turning off
indexing all together by setting every thing to no sort by adding a (1).
The re-run PNRTI and see what happens.

example:

nogrpsort=1

nomailsort=1

nonewssort=1

This at least might get you up and running to read/delete some of your mail.


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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 10:34:30 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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ATTENTION, ATTENTION!

this is the last call for all of you who want to have a LED light for
your palmtop.

I'll accept orders only until MONDAY (May 31st 99) 7.00am MET!

See http://www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html
There you can have a look at the light.

Thank you
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 07:34:18 -0400
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FreeCell 947293 - difficult/impossible?
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My Freecell does not show the number of the game.  Is there a trick to see
the game number or is this a newer version?
Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----

> > <<     However, my wife and I have both been stymied by game no
> > 947293.>>
> >
> > I haven't been able to solve it yet.
> >

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 16:51:11 +0200
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              Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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As you already know, Yugoslavia has been bombed for two
months non-stop. The type of targets is changing all
the time, from strictly military (military camps,
ammunition stocks) to a wider range: TV-stations and
transmitters, power plants, water reservoirs, factories,
bridges, highways) and we have announcements that next
target will be communication system (phones, computers).
Our satellite link (EutelSat) has already been shut down.
There was a possibility that our Internet link would also
be shut down, but it seems they gave it up and decided to
ruin our telephone and computer system instead. That's why
I'm writing you now - I don't want to be rude and go
without saying 'Goodbye'.

Someone could say: 'You asked for it, by electing
Milosevic'. I didn't vote for him, like the majority of
Serbs, he was elected by the Parliament. Nor his party has
the majority in the Parliament. He was elected by the
four-member coalition, which would certainly lose next
elections (they already lost the local elections), but
after this war started, Milosevic's popularity bursted,
because now people see him as the fighter for freedom and
will probably be the president for life. It may sound
absurd, but NATO agression only helped him to survive and
even to strengthen his power. I only wonder why NATO
hurried with military action, when Milosevic would have to
abdicate any way? Before the bombing started, the
Albanians were living in their houses, and now? They are
refugees and it's questionable if they are to return,
ever, like 800,000 Bosnian and Croatian Serb refugees,
living in Serbia today. If those Albanians succeeded to
emigrate on West, they won't be coming back for sure,
since they live much better there than in the country which
is seven years under economic sanctions (embargo).


Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 09:14:27 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I'm sorry! The spiritual temperature of our country (USA) is not much better.
Our president has been responsible for the deaths of many (see the video
"Clinton Chronicles" -- held up Congress for a couple of days to deal with it
-- I'm not talking about his recent immorality fiasco --, then on to business
as usual). I'm sorry if this response causes problems, if we don't get things
right in our own country, let alone somebody elses, we'll all be signing off
soon.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Dejan Radic wrote:

> As you already know, Yugoslavia has been bombed for two
> months non-stop. The type of targets is changing all
> the time, from strictly military (military camps,
> ammunition stocks) to a wider range: TV-stations and
> transmitters, power plants, water reservoirs, factories,
> bridges, highways) and we have announcements that next
> target will be communication system (phones, computers).
> Our satellite link (EutelSat) has already been shut down.
> There was a possibility that our Internet link would also
> be shut down, but it seems they gave it up and decided to
> ruin our telephone and computer system instead. That's why
> I'm writing you now - I don't want to be rude and go
> without saying 'Goodbye'.
>
> Someone could say: 'You asked for it, by electing
> Milosevic'. I didn't vote for him, like the majority of
> Serbs, he was elected by the Parliament. Nor his party has
> the majority in the Parliament. He was elected by the
> four-member coalition, which would certainly lose next
> elections (they already lost the local elections), but
> after this war started, Milosevic's popularity bursted,
> because now people see him as the fighter for freedom and
> will probably be the president for life. It may sound
> absurd, but NATO agression only helped him to survive and
> even to strengthen his power. I only wonder why NATO
> hurried with military action, when Milosevic would have to
> abdicate any way? Before the bombing started, the
> Albanians were living in their houses, and now? They are
> refugees and it's questionable if they are to return,
> ever, like 800,000 Bosnian and Croatian Serb refugees,
> living in Serbia today. If those Albanians succeeded to
> emigrate on West, they won't be coming back for sure,
> since they live much better there than in the country which
> is seven years under economic sanctions (embargo).
>
> Dejan Radic
> Belgrade
> Yugoslavia
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 10:43:37 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net
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> I have about 2 meg of emails to read and when I run pnrti to index them it
keeps
> giving me a stack overflow and won't index them. Does anyone know what I
can
> do about this? Thanks

It sounds like pnrti needs to be recompiled with more stack space.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 11:10:56 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
Comments: To: qman@earthlink.net

Hello Qman

Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Tried it. It still gave me the stack
overflow<g>. One thing is I am running it under System Manager and I only
have 336k of ram availible. Do you think running it in a dos software
carousel session where I have 560k might help?

John


> Hi John,
>
> That might help, but I doubt it.
>
> But first try this:
>
> In your pnr.cfg forward the end there is a PNRTI section, try turning off
> indexing all together by setting every thing to no sort by adding a (1).
> The re-run PNRTI and see what happens.
>
> example:
>
> nogrpsort=1
>
> nomailsort=1
>
> nonewssort=1
>
> This at least might get you up and running to read/delete some of your mail.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Qman...
> HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 11:13:08 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>

Mack Baggette writes:
> > I have about 2 meg of emails to read and when I run pnrti to index them it
> keeps
> > giving me a stack overflow and won't index them. Does anyone know what I
> can
> > do about this? Thanks
>
> It sounds like pnrti needs to be recompiled with more stack space.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>

How would I do that?<g> I do have the source.

John

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 10:11:26 -0800
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Hello Qman

Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Tried it. It still gave me the stack
overflow<g>. One thing is I am running it under System Manager and I only
have 336k of ram availible. Do you think running it in a dos software
carousel session where I have 560k might help?

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------

Hi John,

With Filer closed I have 426 free and without I have 368k free.

BTW: This is with Software Carousel running and under System Manager.


Hey! It can't hurt. Try running it from DOS with Maxdos and see what happens.

BTW: I run it with Maxdos anyhow, but under Ssytem Manager. (:-)


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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 12:32:47 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
Comments: To: qman@earthlink.net

>
> Hi John,
>
> With Filer closed I have 426 free and without I have 368k free.
>
> BTW: This is with Software Carousel running and under System Manager.
>
>
> Hey! It can't hurt. Try running it from DOS with Maxdos and see what happens.
>
> BTW: I run it with Maxdos anyhow, but under Ssytem Manager. (:-)

Hello Qman

I tried it but I still got the error. Maybe Mack is right and it just needs
to be compiled with more stack space.

John

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 19:44:53 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: FreeCell 947293 - difficult/impossible?
Comments: To: Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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> My Freecell does not show the number of the game.  Is there a trick to see
> the game number or is this a newer version?
> Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

Type "S", the game number is shoen as part of the game
statistics.  This assumes you're playing Curtis Cameron's
version of FreeCell.  Also make sure you're running a recent
version so you can enter a particular game's number and also
save game results to a .HST file.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 14:35:09 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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I have a couple of questions about the AppMan (&More...)

1. How can I remove some of the system applications that I never use from
SysMan?  I'd like to free up some hotkeys without having to do a lot of key
swapping.

2. If I have deleted a system app from the AppMan, how can I put it back?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 14:39:09 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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Is there a way to launch an application with the Daily Greeting?  It would
be neat to have the Appt program show the daily appointments and then fire
up ToDo.exm to show the other tasks that need attending to.

Did anyone figure out a way to have the 200lx turn itself on in the middle
of the night to initialize the daily greeting, then power down, so that
turning it on in the morning is a tad faster?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 16:49:17 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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I noticed an interesting picture of an HP200 look-alike at:
http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/index.htm

If you click on "Symbian" on the left of the page, it gives some
additional info. One thing I noticed was that DOS is supported.

Steve

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 07:04:34 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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At 4:49 PM -0500 5/29/99, Steve Dowell wrote:
> I noticed an interesting picture of an HP200 look-alike at:
> http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/index.htm
>
> If you click on "Symbian" on the left of the page, it gives some
> additional info. One thing I noticed was that DOS is supported.
>
> Steve
>

Psion has had a Tokyo office for the past two years and I assume that the
pictured machine is going to be one of the first fruits of their work. NTT
Docomo sells rebadged Librettos, NEC Mobile Gear, Zauruses, etc. for
communications via cellular telephones. The prices can be attractive on
older models.

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 21:08:43 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Can anyone tell me how todo.exm differs from the LX's built - in to do?
What can it do better? Thanks a lot.

In message , Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM> writes
>Rod,
>
>> ÝCan we ask our prolific and much-appreciated SUPER Japanese translator
>>  to translate the TUTORIAL.TDB and documentation included in Todo.exm ?¨
>
>where did you find todo.exm?
>
>Regards
>
>Helmuth
>

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 18:21:57 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Application Manager questions

See this months (May-Jun) Palm top paper
for a whole complete, comprehensive, all
explanation of removing apps and system
icons..........

yor pal al.........................

>
>1. How can I remove some of the system applications that I never use
>from
>SysMan?  I'd like to free up some hotkeys without having to do a lot
>of key
>swapping.
>
>2. If I have deleted a system app from the AppMan, how can I put it
>back?
>
>Thanks!
>
>-- Terry
>
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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 00:14:05 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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STOP the politics !!!
STOP the politics !!!
STOP the politics !!!

...Please?

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 00:28:45 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Don,

Maybe I missed something, but the problem is within Netscape's virtual =
window.  The right-mouse click does bring up the resize menu, but you can =
only adjust the size from the full screen setup not the reduced screen =
setup.  It is the reduced screen setup that got sized beyond the screen =
boundries that I am trying to get back within the 600 X 800 visual =
screen.

Thanks,   =3DBob=3D


> Have you tried right-mouse click on the w95 task bar?
> You should be able to select size and then use your arrow
> keys to re-size the window.
> Don.

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 21:43:07 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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From:         Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
Subject:      Re: More info about ToDo.exm
Comments: To: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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At 09:08 PM 5/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me how todo.exm differs from the LX's built - in to do?

It is like a spreadsheet with A - Z columns and 1 - 99 rows. Each cell can
have a todo note with a start date, due date and last time edited date
(touch date). You can adjust the size  of each cell which will show more or
less cells on the screen at once. There is a size adjustable data card
window which will show all of the text for the currently selected todo
cell. You can put a title (sort of like a category) on each column. You can
sort columns in various different ways. You can jump around the rows and
columns quickly. There's more but I have not figured it all out yet.

>What can it do better?

Well, I don't know if it is better, it's just totally different from the
built in todo list. It's a neat program, I like the way it works.

You should install it and try it yourself to see if it's something you
would want to keep.

Owen

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At 05:46 PM 5/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>On 28-May-99, Barbara L. Moy wrote:
>> for the last several days.  I keep track of all of my todos, due dates
>> for work and fun.  The ability to specify default frame types let's me
>> quickly find those todos which are due today or late.....

Are you saying that the frame type will change after the todo due date has
passed? Or do you do this manually?
I like todo.exm too.

Owen

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John -
If all you are trying to do is rread it, you can use the filer veiwer or  Memo
to look at the file named incoming.mai


Brian


Hello Qman

Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Tried it. It still gave me the stack
overflow<g>. One thing is I am running it under System Manager and I only
have 336k of ram availible. Do you think running it in a dos software
carousel session where I have 560k might help?

John


> Hi John,
>
> That might help, but I doubt it.
>
> But first try this:
>
> In your pnr.cfg forward the end there is a PNRTI section, try turning off
> indexing all together by setting every thing to no sort by adding a (1).
> The re-run PNRTI and see what happens.
>
> example:
>
> nogrpsort=1
>
> nomailsort=1
>
> nonewssort=1
>
> This at least might get you up and running to read/delete some of your mail.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Qman...
> HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net
>
>
> ccLXPOP - a cc:Mail conversion tool Version 1.0
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Is ToDo.exm really limited to 99 rows?

==============================
At 09:43 PM 5/29/99 -0400, you wrote:
>At 09:08 PM 5/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>Can anyone tell me how todo.exm differs from the LX's built - in to do?
>
>It is like a spreadsheet with A - Z columns and 1 - 99 rows. Each cell can
>have a todo note with a start date, due date and last time edited date
>(touch date). You can adjust the size  of each cell which will show more or
>less cells on the screen at once. There is a size adjustable data card
>window which will show all of the text for the currently selected todo
>cell. You can put a title (sort of like a category) on each column. You can
>sort columns in various different ways. You can jump around the rows and
>columns quickly. There's more but I have not figured it all out yet.
>
>>What can it do better?
>
>Well, I don't know if it is better, it's just totally different from the
>built in todo list. It's a neat program, I like the way it works.
>
>You should install it and try it yourself to see if it's something you
>would want to keep.
>
>Owen
>
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Owen, you asked

> Are you saying that the frame type will change after the todo due date =
has
> passed? Or do you do this manually?

Yes, the frame type will change all on its own after you pass the due
date.  You have to make sure that all your frame option settings are
different.  Try entering a note which has a due date in the
future.  Notice the frame type.  Then edit that note so that the due
date is sometime in the past.  You'll see that the frame has changed.

Neat isnt it.

Barbara

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Terrence Chun writes:
>>1. How can I remove some of the system applications that I never use fr=
om
SysMan?  (AppMgr?)

Although it's possible to remove the icons for the built in apps from App=

Mgr, you don't need to do this. Just move the icons to the bottom of the
list. Substitute other apps that use the same hot keys at the top of the
list. The first hot key in the list is the only one you'll get. =


>>2. If I have deleted a system app from the AppMan, how can I put it bac=
k?


Replace appmgr.dat with its most recent backup file.   If that's
unavailable, delete C:\_dat\appmgr.dat and reset the computer. You'll get=
 a
fresh copy of the original file. Start over.

If you want to know all about Application Manager, be sure to read the
article in the May/June  issue of PTP.  You may be surprised at what else=

you can do with App Man. =


.ed.ÝPTP¨

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> Domingo
>I think the cable you are referring to is Greenwich's.  I did purchase
>that at first until I discovered it would not print from DOS.  My
>Belkin's does.
and
>I believe that the number of
>LX-Users who need to print on the road and who do so is pretty
>small.

Hello,

I for one need to print things from the 200LX on the road.
I never have problems printing form DOS with Greenwich.
Furthermore for on-the-road printing and serial connections I
have customized the serial-to-paralell Greenwich cable. After
dismantling the snap-box of the original cable, which
houses the circuit board with electronics, you will find, that
only some of the wires in the cable are used. Strip the insulation a bit
further on and using a mutimeter and original serial cable from
HP find out which pins of the 9 pin RS 232 serial female connector
correspond to pins on the HP female connector used for pluging into
the 100/200LX.
Fine solder the leads from the striped cable from Greenwich to a serial 9
pin female RS 232 connector and also make connection where appropriate with
the 5 wires already soldered to the Greenwich circuit board. The RS 232
connector (metal part) can be attached to the original Canon housing,
when the back hole used originally for cable throughput is enlarged. The
cable of this modified connector must come out from the side (a crude ASCII
drawing follows). If all goes well, you will end up with a compact
connector enabling you to print and connect to serial ports of other PC's
when you are on the road. There is no more need to bring two cables, a
printer and serial.

For those of you, that do not have the original serial HP cable and are
interested, I will post a mail which pin in the RS 232 female connector
corresponds to which in the HP female connector.

GREENWICH connector
     ___________
     |                        \
     |                         \
     |                          |__
     |                          |    |   9 PIN
     |                          |    |   RS 232 female connector
     |                          |    |
     |                          |    |
     |                          |_  |
     |                        /
     |__________/ \
                                \ cable out through the side, ending with HP
                                    100/200 LX connector

Ales Bourek {:>
bourek@med.muni.cz
http://www.ivf.cz
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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 10:06:39 +0100
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Thanks.

But I can't unzip the file. I get the following error message "working
with LZH files, Winzip needs the external LHA programme". Any help on
how to unzip the todo.exm zip file from the author's site?

In message , Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET> writes
>At 09:08 PM 5/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>Can anyone tell me how todo.exm differs from the LX's built - in to do?
>
>It is like a spreadsheet with A - Z columns and 1 - 99 rows. Each cell can
>have a todo note with a start date, due date and last time edited date
>(touch date). You can adjust the size  of each cell which will show more or
>less cells on the screen at once. There is a size adjustable data card
>window which will show all of the text for the currently selected todo
>cell. You can put a title (sort of like a category) on each column. You can
>sort columns in various different ways. You can jump around the rows and
>columns quickly. There's more but I have not figured it all out yet.
>
>>What can it do better?
>
>Well, I don't know if it is better, it's just totally different from the
>built in todo list. It's a neat program, I like the way it works.
>
>You should install it and try it yourself to see if it's something you
>would want to keep.
>
>Owen
>

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Yaaay, got my mailbox back<g>.
Well I tried cclxpop and it locked me out of the ISP mailbox, locked
up my computer and now for some reason the exact same batch file that
works with LXTCP won't work with the ccLXPOP line instead of lxpop. So this is
what I did to install
it. I appended the wattcp.cfg stuff to the end of my wattcp.cfg file, set
my wattcp.cfg in my environment, and added the shell command to my config.sys
file. It seemed to work the first time, it told me I had two messages then
it said drive not ready and locked up my computer. Now the batch file won't
run and when I use lxtcp I get out of environment space errors even though
I havew 2k allocated. What am I doing wrong?

John

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I managed to run it from outside of system manager. Its odd that the
same batch file that works fine under system manager with lxpop will
not work with cclxpop. Everything is the same except I have a cclxpop
line in except lxpop. When I ran it I got the same error--unable to
read drive b. Why is it trying to read drive b? I am running it from
the c drive. I am still getting out of environment space errors.

John

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Well, I whittled it down to just one problem. If I don't have a message to send
cclxpop will give me an error "failure to read drive b". If I hit f for fail
everything proceeds normally it retrieves my messages, and hangs up. If I hit a
for abort it aborts and I get locked out of the ISP mailbox for about 15
minutes. Except for that it works pretty well<g>. Sure is nice to be using
ccMail. Any chance of getting this fixed and maybe expanding it so a person can
get usenet messages in ccMail too? (hint, hint<g>). Otherwise no other
problems. I sent this message with it.

John

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Well, I whittled it down to just one problem. If I don't have a message to send
cclxpop will give me an error "failure to read drive b". If I hit f for fail
everything proceeds normally it retrieves my messages, and hangs up. If I hit a
for abort it aborts and I get locked out of the ISP mailbox for about 15
minutes. Except for that it works pretty well<g>. Sure is nice to be using
ccMail. Any chance of getting this fixed and maybe expanding it so a person can
get usenet messages in ccMail too? (hint, hint<g>). Otherwise no other
problems. I sent this message with it.

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------


Glad to here that you got ccLXPOP workiing John.

Forgo my other message except for adding the below line to your autoexec.bat
and Your hp.bat: d:\dos\assign b:=a:




Regards,


Qman...
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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 08:49:20 -0400
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I've been looking at the new solutions to the problem of synchronizing th=
e
Palmtop's PIMS with MS Outlook. I decided to put on my old "programmer
analyst's cap" and write the specifications for the complete solution.  I=
'd
be grateful if the programmers would take a look at my first draft and se=
e
if I've covered all the bases.  =

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message back to us.
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Here are the specifications for a program to synchronize data from the
Palmtop and MS Outlook.

Running the proposed program will result in two sets of new master files:=

one for the Palmtop and one for the MS Outlook suite of programs. Both se=
ts
of files will contain the same number of records in which the fields in t=
he
Palmtop records will be a subset of the fields in the Outlook records. =


The input for the program will consist of one or more data files from the=

Palmtop and the corresponding data files from Outlook. The program should=

allow the user to select whether to use all files at once or to use only =
an
Appointment Book and/or PhoneBook file now and other files later. =


The synchronizing program should be a standalone program that does not
require the use of other data conversion programs. It should be a Windows=

program that runs on a desktop or laptop computer.

Actually, true synchronization involves the solution to two classic
computing problems: data-conversion and conflict-resolution. Here are the=

specifications for each of these problems.

Data-Conversion
The number of fields in an MS Outlook application exceeds those in an HP
PIM. The fields also have different names and different formats, e.g., da=
te
and time fields may not have the same format. Field lengths may be
different. =


The program must determine which fields from a Palmtop record map into
corresponding fields in an MS Outlook record. The extra fields from the M=
S
Outlook data must be retained. =

Ideally the field mapping should be done in the computer's memory and
should not require the use of intermediate files. However, handling recor=
ds
with large Notes fields may require the use of intermediate files on disk=
. =


Conflict Resolution
Once the data has been converted to a common data structure it's time to
tackle the problem of conflict resolution. =


No-conflict (identical) records will consist of those that match perfectl=
y
for all the fields that are common to both the Palmtop and Outlook
databases. These records will be written to the two sets of master files.=


No-conflict (new) records will be those in which no fields match. These
records will be sent to the two sets of master files.

Conflicting records will be those in which some fields match and some
fields do not. For example two appointment records may have the same date=

and time but different descriptions. To further refine the matching of ti=
me
fields, the program should detect overlapping time fields. Thus two
appointment records would conflict if a second appointment appears to sta=
rt
while a first appointment is still in progress. =


The user should be presented with the two conflicting records and asked t=
o
decide which one to keep and which one to discard. A further refinement
would be to allow the user to edit individual fields in the final record
before it is written to the set of new master files.
Admittedly, the user will spend a lot of time dealing with conflict
resolution the first time he or she runs the program. Subsequent, daily,
running of the program will be less of a hassle. =


.ed.ÝPTP¨ Who does not have the time to tackle the programming himself.

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Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

> It's my understanding that FASTDB only speeds up the "interim" garbage
> collection (i.e. changes to records) performed by you on the database.
> However the actual closing of (i.e. exiting from) the file is not faster,
> and may in fact be longer

FASTDB (even though it may not be mentioned in the docs) does
not always do garbage collection when closing the file.  Only
if charges were done to at least three records in the file
will any garbage collection take place while closing.  So, if
all you do it open the file, make no changes (or only two
change two records) and then close it, it will not garbage
collect and therefore close very fast. The "slower" file
closing will happen after you change three of more records.
But I have still found the closing to be fast.


Stan

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Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK> wrote:

> "FASTDB intercepts all calls to the database garbage collection,
> and forstalls them until the file is closed.  Instead of multiple
> calls to compress the file throughout its use, you only suffer through
> one while closing the file."
>
> Surely, if all the garbage collection is stalled until the file is closed
> it will take longer to close than if gc was done along the way?

I see you have read the docs, but have you tried FASTDB yet?
Does it allow for faster closing of your files?

FASTDB (even though it may not be mentioned in the docs) does
not always do garbage collection when closing the file.  Only
if charges were done to at least three records in the file will
any garbage collection take place while closing.  So, if all
you do it open the file, make no changes (or only two change
two records) and then close it, it will not garbage collect
and therefore close very fast.


Stan

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Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET> wrote:

> Isn't there this side effect with FASTDB of the file size getting larger
> every time one opens the application even if no data is added? I remember
> an article in the PalmtopPaper to this effect

Yes, this is true.  But I will explain it for you.  FASTDB not
only postpones the normal garbage collection process that
wants to happen after after change to a record in the file,
but it also postpones the garbage collection that normally
wants to happen when the file is closed.  FASTDB will only
allow garbage collection to happen at file closing time when
at least three records have been modified.

So, if you only open the file (which generates some garbage)
and then only change less than three records, no GC will take
place and the file will grow.  But this should not be much of
a problem because every so often you are likely to change
three or more records and the GC will happen when you close
the file.  The programmer who wrote FASTDB figured this was a
reasonable trade-off.

If I know I have opened and closed a file many times without
changing three or more records (which is a common way to use
my phone book - it is used for reference mostly) then I will
just go in there and fake changes to three records by changing
some simple field to what it already was.  This is enough for
FASTDB to enable GC on the next closing.  Then the file will
shrink again to be as small as it can.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 10:41:32 -0400
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Sun, 30 May 1999 10:34:29 -0400 (EDT)

05h27m15s ago ...
On Sun, 30 May 1999, Peter Maddern wrote:

> But I can't unzip the file. I get the following error message "working
> with LZH files, Winzip needs the external LHA programme". Any help on
> how to unzip the todo.exm zip file from the author's site?

Hmmm - surprisingly enough, the Windoze message actually makes sense
<g>.  You need the program LHA, available on Simtel sites.  I use the
DOS version 2.55 - but I don't do windows, so don't know if there's a
separate version.  Check on Simtel sites.  LHA255 works fine on the
palmtops, so you could extract the files right on the LX...

HTH

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 10:33:07 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp

John Musielewicz writes:
> Hello
>
> I have about 2 meg of emails to read and when I run pnrti to index them it keeps
> giving me a stack overflow and won't index them. Does anyone know what I can
> do about this? Thanks

Perhaps you could use an editor to split the incoming file into
two pieces?  Rename one some different name and process them
separately.

Ted


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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 10:19:51 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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From:         Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: x-finder / todo.exm
In-Reply-To:  <199905300321.XAA20463@dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com>
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On 29-May-99, Barbara L. Moy wrote:
> Owen, you asked
>
>> Are you saying that the frame type will change after the todo due date
>> has passed? Or do you do this manually?
>
> Yes, the frame type will change all on its own after you pass the due
> date.  You have to make sure that all your frame option settings are

And if you change the Limit Range to >1 day, the frame will change to the
"Limit Frame" as a sort of warning.  You can change the look of the frames
in the "Options/Frame Setting" menu.

Normal is the default frame, Limit appears when you enter the Limit range to
the due date, Today is the due date, and After are the overdue tasks.  If
you have set the Start date in the future, then the Before frame is used.
I'm not sure what Yet does.

I'm enjoying this program more and more.  I've switched all of my todo tasks
from Appt to ToDo.exm and I like being able to see the structure of my
tasks rather than a singular list.

It will be nice when it gets recompiled with English defaults.  Perhaps the
author wouldn't mind adding a calendar browser for entering dates?

-- Terry

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 10:24:05 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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From:         Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Transfer protocol ÝRe: Specs for Synching}
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On 30-May-99, Ed Keefe wrote:
> I've been looking at the new solutions to the problem of synchronizing the
> Palmtop's PIMS with MS Outlook. I decided to put on my old "programmer
> analyst's cap" and write the specifications for the complete solution. I'd
> be grateful if the programmers would take a look at my first draft and see
> if I've covered all the bases.

As someone who has dabbled in a little programming on an non-DOS/non-Mac
platform (i.e. Amiga), I would personally like to know how the LX
interfaces with its transfer programs (e.g. Filer or X-Finder) so I can try
to make a sync utility to the Amiga (I know there are folks out there who
could use it).

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 10:35:00 -0500
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From:         Yor Pal Al <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      FASTDB

How does this routine operate?

It's a TSR yet not a sys, com, or exe file.

Does it get run each time sysmgr is invoked
of just once to initiate?

yor pal al...................

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 14:27:43 -0400
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Goodbye in advance
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Dejan,

I'm sorry about the situation you and your fellow civillian
Serb's are in - unfortunately stubborn Milosevic has lead you there.
Unfortunately your people have an ongoing record of trying to
make factual situations to their advantage in this century.
Serb troups have been trying to suppress not only the Kosovo
but also tried to invade my homecountry Carinthia/Austria twice
after each World War.

Bob : your comment about Clinton and US role in this war.
You should not feel sorry about yourself. I feel sorry for
Europe which is repeatedly (Slovenia, Kroatia, Bosnia and now
Kosovo) unable to take care on it's own continent. It's a shame
that we need Uncle Sam to bring "peace" to the balkan region.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 18:23:07 +0200
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<<The best solution for me was the OmniPrint way.>>

<Though I haven't tried it, I believe that you can also "print through" a
desktop PC from a palmtop with the standard DOS Interlink/Interserver. An
advantage to this would be that you shouldn't need to carry a diskette.>

You have to edit the config.sys of the desktop (device=c:\dos\interlnk.exe).
And if you have Windows NT on the desktop (a lot have), there is a lot of
trouble with the ports, and no real config.sys (except config.nt) and
inserting a diskette is easier than hours of testing NT).

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 15:26:01 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Did anyone purchase one of these HP1000's from L. Rand?

If so, please respond off list to <weather@exis.net>

Thanks.

====================================
>Date:         Sun, 9 May 1999 10:52:46 EDT
>From: lydia m rand <lmrrand@JUNO.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

>I have several HP1000's available for sale.  ...  These are brand new,
>english versions, in the original boxes with documentation.  ... I will
offer these units to sell (US sales only) to individuals for 1 week only at
$150 each, shipping included.  ....
>
>L. Rand
>

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 15:46:59 -0400
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              bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM
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John -

Glad to hear you go it working. I am real curious why you are getting a failure
to read drive b: error. If you don't mind, could you send your batch file and
cfg files for me to look at? Remove the password stuff, of course!

Brian


Well, I whittled it down to just one problem. If I don't have a message to send
cclxpop will give me an error "failure to read drive b". If I hit f for fail
everything proceeds normally it retrieves my messages, and hangs up. If I hit a
for abort it aborts and I get locked out of the ISP mailbox for about 15
minutes. Except for that it works pretty well<g>. Sure is nice to be using
ccMail. Any chance of getting this fixed and maybe expanding it so a person can
get usenet messages in ccMail too? (hint, hint<g>). Otherwise no other
problems. I sent this message with it.

John

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 22:20:08 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Hi all,

I use SC with Sysmgr in Work Area 1, and POSTLX in Work Area
4. After changing several times between areas, log-in with
POSTLX is only possible after exiting to DOS and executing
LXCIC.COM, although it is contained both in AUTOEXEC.BAT
and in the startup command list of work area 4.

Why does lxcic "get lost" when changing between work areas ?

Thanks for any advice !
Winfried

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 01:10:41 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I have:

Hp 200 lx with a 24 cf/pcmcia in the slot
Serialcable to connect Hp with pc on com2
WWW/LX registered
Desktop pc with external Us Robotics modem attached to com1

I want to use the external modem which is connected to my pc's com1 with
www/lx from my hp200.

I have found a program (Patchcom) which connects the com1 and the com2.
But the textfile talks about a internal modem and I can not get this
program to work with my equipment... this program was programmed for
exactly this purpose...but as I said I can not get it to work...

I will be ordering a adapter to use my modem 25 pin with my hp
serialcable...but in the meantime I was hoping that I could get this to
work...any suggestions..

I also have a pcmciamodem..but I have too wait a while get my hp200
upgraded..(lack of funds..)

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Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 16:25:50 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>

John Musielewicz writes (about PNRTI):
> I tried it but I still got the error. Maybe Mack is right and it just needs
> to be compiled with more stack space.

John,

First, check that your copy of PNRTI is not corrupted.  I've indexed
large mail files (700k) with it before, and never had a problem.
There's no recursion in PNRTI, and the big arrays are allocated from
the heap using malloc, not the stack.

Second, try splitting the incoming.mai file into pieces with PE (cause
it can handle big text files).  If you split between the two lines of ¬A
symbols, then you can index and read the parts one after the other.

I'm interested to find out why it is failing for you, as no-one else
has reported a problem to me directly - but then neither did you :-)

The current beta version of PNR (3.2 beta 1) will have a large model
version of pnr.exe and pnrti.exe which will remove any practical
limits for the DOS versions (the EXM version will still have the 64k
data limit imposed by the EXM format).  It should be up on my beta page
this week.

ÝPS: thanks to everyone who answered for sharing the support load :-)¨

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-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 09:42:58 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Calendar EXM applet (Was: Re: x-finder / todo.exm)
Comments: To: Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>

Here's an interesting project for someone who wants to get some EXM
programming experience:

Write a pop-up calendar EXM which allows you to select a date from the
calendar (just like in Appt), and then allows you (via the function
keys) to insert the selected date in the keyboard buffer in a number of
different formats.

Then we can all use the one program in any application that makes you
type in dates, instead of having to updat every application.

Terrence Chun writes:
> It will be nice when it gets recompiled with English defaults.  Perhaps the
> author wouldn't mind adding a calendar browser for entering dates?


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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 19:42:42 -0600
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              a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
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Subject:      Re: stack overflow in lxtcp
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Hi Rod


_________________________________________
John Musielewicz writes (about PNRTI):
> I tried it but I still got the error. Maybe Mack is right and it just needs
> to be compiled with more stack space.

John,

First, check that your copy of PNRTI is not corrupted.  I've indexed
large mail files (700k) with it before, and never had a problem.
There's no recursion in PNRTI, and the big arrays are allocated from
the heap using malloc, not the stack.

Second, try splitting the incoming.mai file into pieces with PE (cause
it can handle big text files).  If you split between the two lines of ¬A
symbols, then you can index and read the parts one after the other.

I'm interested to find out why it is failing for you, as no-one else
has reported a problem to me directly - but then neither did you :-)
__________________________________________

First, I ended up reading the mails in PE, it took a few hours to page through
all of them but it worked. Next, how can I tell if pnrti is corrupt? It works
without a hitch otherwise. I am using the 3.1 package. It would be good to find
out if someone else has a problem with greater than 2 meg worth of emails since
I am also getting wierd envirnmental errors from something else and there could
be something flakey about my setup. Thanks for the help.

John

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 17:46:02 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> STOP the politics !!!
>
> ...Please?

You have my vote of concurrence. (Ooops, sorry for using a political term :)
....)

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 17:45:58 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Winfried,

> I use SC with Sysmgr in Work Area 1, and POSTLX in Work Area
> 4. After changing several times between areas, log-in with
> POSTLX is only possible after exiting to DOS and executing
> LXCIC.COM, although it is contained both in AUTOEXEC.BAT
> and in the startup command list of work area 4.
>
> Why does lxcic "get lost" when changing between work areas ?

Very interesting! I have no real clear answer, but a speculation. Is it
possible that each of these activations of LXCIC is done in a way that spawns
another DOS instance? After a few of these you'll run out of memory, and
would not be able to run the program. Then, when you exit, you release all the
instances of DOS and regain the memory back...

How do you run LXCIC?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 10:21:13 +0930
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Comments:     Resent-From: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com>
Comments:     Originally-From: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@hplx.net>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: More info about ToDo.exm
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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"Don E. Weatherly writes:
> Is ToDo.exm really limited to 99 rows?

Currently, yes.

But since the program is open source, it should be straight-forward to
increase the limit and recompile ... :-)

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 20:54:14 -0400
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Where can one find the TODO.EXM?  It does not seem to be at the SUPER site.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 10:49:56 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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       http://rwhitby.hplx.net/beta.html
       http://www.hplx.net/rwhitby/beta.html (for WWW/LX users)

PNR Version 3.2 beta 1
----------------------

The DOS executables (PNR.EXE and PNRTI.EXE) are now compiled in large
mode, which effectively removes the memory limits in version 3.1 and
earlier.  The capacity of the DOS version of PNR is now practically
limited only by the amount of free disk space to store the messages.
Note that the System Manager compatible PNR.EXM still has the limits
detailed in version 3.1 (the memory limit is due to the 64k data limit
imposed on EXM programs), so if you wish to use PNR.EXM, you should
limit the number of articles per folder to about 400.  You can still
have as many folders as your disk space allows.

LXTCP Version 1.2 beta 2
------------------------
The LXDNS and LXRSH programs have been added.  LXDNS now also does a
reverse-lookup on the IP address it returns to let you know the true
canonical name of the machine you are resolving, or to let you get a
machine name from an ip address (if the machine has a name in the
DNS).  LXRSH is a very early beta - let me know if it does or doesn't
work for you.  LXTELNET has a lxtelnet.username parameter added so you
can use the rsh and rlogin features of LXTELNET easier. LXNNTP now
only updates the last msg number in the newsrc file when a download is
successful (previously, a connection error could possibly update the
last message number, causing you to miss articles).

A major change in the TCP/IP stack is that it now only searches the
parent domains for relative names (names that don't contain a '.')
when doing DNS lookups.

Up until now, if you had domainslist set to "lxtcp.hplx.net" and you
did a lookup of "ftp.hplx.net", it would search
"ftp.hplx.net.lxtcp.hplx.net", "ftp.hplx.net.hplx.net",
"ftp.hplx.net.net", and only then find "ftp.hplx.net".  Now, if the
name you are searching for contains a '.', then no parent domains will
be consulted.  So a search for just "ftp" will look-up
"ftp.lxtcp.hplx.net", then "ftp.hplx.net"; whereas a search for
"ftp.hplx.net" will only look for "ftp.hplx.net" and nothing else.

I can't believe no-one (including me) hadn't noticed this problem in
the WatTCP stack before.  Anyway, it's fixed now, so you should see
much faster name lookups from now on.  The domainslist directive now
only accepts a single domain name, not a list of domains.

I've also enabled the TCP/IP packet dump facilities in the WatTCP
stack.  See the lxtcp.doc file for details.

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-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Since I have these 4 flash media, thought I would run some
tests.
Conclusions:
  Lexar  4X CF cards are no faster than recent Sandisk in
single speed 200LX
  Read speed hasn't improved much in 7 years, so there is
      no real gain if A: is mainly for reference material
(read only).
  I have seen tests where Lexars are faster in digital
cameras, but
      perhaps this is against older Sandisk card (I see no
difference
      in my current camera with the cards below).


Some tests, left is copy (read & write) 100K, right is
program read (20k)
  on a single speed 200LX:

C:  (ram)
                8.4 sec         5.9 sec
A: 4 meg Sandisk CF
                8.0              5.8
A: 32 meg Lexar 4X CF
                9.2              5.8
A: 2meg Maxell CF
               11.7             5.85
A: 10 meg Sundisk  1992 (c)
               46.2             6.3

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 18:41:27 -0700
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On Sun, 30 May 1999, Stan Peters wrote:

> Conclusions:
>   Lexar  4X CF cards are no faster than recent Sandisk in
> single speed 200LX

I think I mentioned this before -- (or perhaps I chickened out and didn't
send it <g>) -- but in the 200LX, the palmtop itself is the limiting
factor for data speed, and so you won't see any difference.  In a laptop,
WinCE machine, or desktop, though, the new 16x Lexar cards are incredibly
faster than the new Sandisk cards at writing.  Read speeds are about the
same.

However, the Sandisk cards don't disable light sleep, and (my last tests
showed) the Lexar cards do, so for strict 200LX use, the Sandisk cards are
generally a better choice, as they use less current.  But I haven't tested
the newer Lexar cards, so I can't say about those.

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Does anyone know if there is a way to get it to quote a replied message
properly? Thanks

John

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 04:33:38 +0000
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There were a few postings last week about SecDev. As others reported,
it works rather nicely on the LX, but nothing I did would persuade it
to live with Windows 95 or 98. With the device driver loaded, I would
get the system locking or stack overflow errors at startup.

I like the simple (for the user) way that SecDev works, so I looked
around for a Windows version. Anyone interested, take a look at
BestCrypt at http://www.jetico.com

It works exactly the same way as SecDev, but has a very sexy
interface, a choice of encryption algorithms and a secure file wipe
utility.

It could be called a bit pricey IMO at $90, but to those of us whose
plans to overthrow the world are sensitve, it could make sense! I
have no connection with the company involved.
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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 21:36:21 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Mon, 31 May 1999, Chris Randle wrote:

> I like the simple (for the user) way that SecDev works, so I looked
> around for a Windows version. Anyone interested, take a look at
> BestCrypt at http://www.jetico.com

For anybody considering BestCrypt, try Scramdisk instead (found on
www.winfiles.com, I believe).  It works just as well, has the same options
(timeouts, etc.), supports a wide variety of algorithms, includes source
code, and is free!

Maybe somebody could modify the source code to read SecDev files...?

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> > STOP the politics !!!
> >
> > ...Please?
>
> You have my vote of concurrence. (Ooops, sorry for using a political =
term :)
> ....)

Excuse me for falling into the trap. I'll convert to e-mailing
on this subject.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              todo.exm))
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On 30-May-99, Rod Whitby wrote:
> Here's an interesting project for someone who wants to get some EXM
> programming experience:

How complicated would it be for someone to try to learn to program an app
for the 200lx?  I'm a little rusty, but had some self-taught background in
the more ancient languages (BASIC, REXX, 6502).  Where would one begin?
Would it be worth it to learn to program on this platform?

Just a thought...

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On Sun, 30 May 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> How complicated would it be for someone to try to learn to program an
> app for the 200lx?  I'm a little rusty, but had some self-taught
> background in the more ancient languages (BASIC, REXX, 6502).  Where
> would one begin? Would it be worth it to learn to program on this
> platform?

EXM programs are fairly difficult.  You might want to start out with some
straight C and PAL programming, which is much less complex, and gradually
move into EXM.

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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> Why does lxcic "get lost" when changing between work areas ?

Unless you use it in TSR mode, it just "sets" the parameters right.
Seemingly, SC also fiddles with some of those parameters so that the
state is changed when you return to the SC workarea in which you
started LXCIC. Same happens if you turn the machine off and on again.
I am sure Stefan could explain that more accurately.

Anyway, I use

PreOnline=lxcic>NUL
PostOnline=lxcic o>NUL

in the ÝSystem¨ section of POST.CFG (make sure lxcic is on the path or
use the full path in the above statements). That way, lxcic is
automatically run before and after an online run.

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 09:00:45 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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My mother in law have had a problem for a while now. She had recieved a
email on her dialup account with a size of 7M
And she just couldnt download it. She only has a 28.8k modem.
She (and othhers) tried to remove it with Netscape mail, but As far as
they could tell, there was no way to remove non downloaded messages.

So the other other week when I visited here I asked her for her login
and password. Fired up WWW/LX. connected my Apex combo 2400bps pcmcia modem
and removed the dredful message!

Does anybody know how to remove non downloaded messages with Netscape
Mail? Or does WWW/LX excel netscape on this?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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On Mon, 31 May 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> Does anybody know how to remove non downloaded messages with Netscape
> Mail? Or does WWW/LX excel netscape on this?

Naturally WWW/LX is better than Netscape at all things.  <g>

However, what I would normally do in such a situation is:

telnet <her_pop3_server> 110

(the above line would be telnet <her_pop3_server>:110 with telnet/lx)

user <her_login_name>
pass <her_password>

And then you will be able to delete the message, if you know what number
it is, by doing

dele <message number>

If you don't know which it is, try

top 1 10

which will show you the headers and the first 10 lines of the message.
Then do top 2 10, etc. until you find the big one (assuming you can tell
by the headers which is the big one) and dele that message.

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Date:         Sat, 29 May 1999 22:24:10 +0100
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>> Is your serial port turned on, if not you get exactly the symptoms ..?
>If it is that in Setup - Comms -> I have COM1 Port DOS enabled. Is there
>something else?
If you are using Buddy, you can set the serial port to be locked in an off
state, thus causing communications to fail in the manner you described in
your earlier post.

I believe that under normal System Manager operation, without Buddy, the
serial port is automatically turned on and off as required by the
applications so you should not have a problem.

The Setup - Comms -> COM1 Port DOS enabled setting does not apply here, as
its name suggests, it only applies when operating in DOS.

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 08:03:42 "GMT"
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Subject:      Re: Looking for beta testers for LXTCP 1.2 beta 2 and PNR 3.2
              beta 1
Comments: To: rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM

On Mon, 31 May 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> Up until now, if you had domainslist set to "lxtcp.hplx.net" and you
> did a lookup of "ftp.hplx.net", it would search
> "ftp.hplx.net.lxtcp.hplx.net", "ftp.hplx.net.hplx.net",
> "ftp.hplx.net.net", and only then find "ftp.hplx.net".  Now, if the
> name you are searching for contains a '.', then no parent domains will
> be consulted.  So a search for just "ftp" will look-up
> "ftp.lxtcp.hplx.net", then "ftp.hplx.net"; whereas a search for
> "ftp.hplx.net" will only look for "ftp.hplx.net" and nothing else.
>
> I can't believe no-one (including me) hadn't noticed this problem in
> the WatTCP stack before.  Anyway, it's fixed now, so you should see
> much faster name lookups from now on.  The domainslist directive now
> only accepts a single domain name, not a list of domains.

This is not a problem in the WatTCP stack. Name resolution is supposed to be done like this. Check with any reference manual on TCP/IP. If you want to look up ftp.hplx.net then you should use "ftp.hplx.net." with a trailing dot, otherwise all your default domains are appended one at a time.

Don't give your resolver a default domain unless you use it a lot.

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 17:42:44 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Looking for beta testers for LXTCP 1.2 beta 2 and PNR 3.2
              beta 1
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amanda writes:
> This is not a problem in the WatTCP stack. Name resolution is
> supposed to be done like this. Check with any reference manual on
> TCP/IP. If you want to look up ftp.hplx.net then you should use
> "ftp.hplx.net." with a trailing dot, otherwise all your default
> domains are appended one at a time.

I read about this in the DNS RFC and the CUTCP manual.  It seems that
no-one follows this rule (use a trailing '.').  Look at web URLs.
No-one ever says "www.microsoft.com.", do they ?

I get the feeling that appending default domains is something that has
fallen by the wayside over the years.

> Don't give your resolver a default domain unless you use it a lot.

But lots of things require you to have a default domain (like the SMTP
HELO command, for one), and most BOOTP and DHCP servers supply it.  So
it always gets specifies and it causes lots of useless lookups (going
all the way to the root servers in some cases).

I'm open to suggestions on how to resolve this contradiction ...

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Date:         Sun, 30 May 1999 20:01:14 -0800
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I will be ordering a adapter to use my modem 25 pin with my hp
serialcable...but in the meantime I was hoping that I could get this to
work...any suggestions..

I also have a pcmciamodem..but I have too wait a while get my hp200
upgraded..(lack of funds..)

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------

I use a Radio Shack 9 to 25 pin adapter to connect to the moden then I use
a null modem adapter and a 9 pin ginger changer to connect the HP cable..

Hey! What can I say, but it works. (:-)


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 11:03:46 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Hi all,

if I use Memo as Editor for X-Finder with the following:

> %e,b800,240r||memo (as suggested by Peniel)

This editor setting does not work right, memo is now starting, but
empty, not with the chosed file as content. Memo starts and opens
automatically the Menu "Format" with the checkbox for "Textformat", where
You can chose the options bold + underlined. I don't know to fix this or
how it can be defined, maybe it has to do with my german-language-palmtop?

Does anyone know a solution for this?

Thanks, Axel

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              amanda <amanda@WINEASY.SE>
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              beta 1
Comments: To: rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com

On Mon, 31 May 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> No-one ever says "www.microsoft.com.", do they ?

You're right, and it doesn't work either. "www.netscape.com." works. It seems that HTTP 1.1 gives the host name to the web server as you wrote it, and Microsofts web server don't grok the trailing dot. TCP/IP is a fairly new invention at Microsoft... :-)

> But lots of things require you to have a default domain

Can't you use the 'hostname' parameter in wattcp.cfg for these things?

If you leave your fix in the code then please don't describe it as a fix for a broken WatTCP. It is the rest of the world that's broken, not WatTCP.

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Does anyone know if there is a way to get it to quote a replied message
properly? Thanks

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------


Funny you should ask John.

I worked all weekend trying to convert my PE quote macros to a System Manager
macros without success. So I just settled on a macros that would insert the
above line. (:-)





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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 02:36:49 -0800
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Where can one find the TODO.EXM?  It does not seem to be at the SUPER site.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------

ToDo Board 2.1 (TODO21.LZH) can be found at:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/index.htm


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 11:48:02 +0100
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              Martin Cerny <cerny@NATUR.CUNI.CZ>
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I am sorry, what is Buddy?
> If you are using Buddy, you can set the serial port to be locked in an off

(BTW, I have the  lx command in the autoexec.bat - which I discovered can
switch COM1 port on and off. However, either doesn't help).

Thanks a lot
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Hi all,

if I use Memo as Editor for X-Finder with the following:

> %e,b800,240r||memo (as suggested by Peniel)

This editor setting does not work right, memo is now starting, but
empty, not with the chosed file as content. Memo starts and opens
automatically the Menu "Format" with the checkbox for "Textformat", where
You can chose the options bold + underlined. I don't know to fix this or
how it can be defined, maybe it has to do with my german-language-palmtop?

Does anyone know a solution for this?


------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------

Hi Axel,

Which version of X-Finder are you using? I use to have the same thing happen
when I had version R.8.


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 12:45:30 +0200
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Rod,

>
> PNR Version 3.2 beta 1
> ----------------------
>
> The DOS executables (PNR.EXE and PNRTI.EXE) are now compiled in large
> mode, which effectively removes the memory limits in version 3.1 and
> earlier.  The capacity of the DOS version of PNR is now practically
> limited only by the amount of free disk space to store the messages.
> Note that the System Manager compatible PNR.EXM still has the limits
> detailed in version 3.1 (the memory limit is due to the 64k data limit
> imposed on EXM programs), so if you wish to use PNR.EXM, you should
> limit the number of articles per folder to about 400.  You can still
> have as many folders as your disk space allows.

Please send it per email.

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 13:39:23 +0100
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Hi Quinton,

I'm using the latest version of X-Finder, the R9

Cheers, Axel

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Mailto: klag@dwelle.de
Phone : +49(0)30-4646 7020
Fax   : +49(0)30-4646 7025

On 31 May 1999 qman@earthlink.net wrote:

> if I use Memo as Editor for X-Finder with the following:
> > %e,b800,240r||memo (as suggested by Peniel)
>
> This editor setting does not work right, memo is now starting, but
> empty, not with the chosed file as content. Memo starts and opens
> automatically the Menu "Format" with the checkbox for "Textformat", where
> You can chose the options bold + underlined. I don't know to fix this or
> how it can be defined, maybe it has to do with my german-language-palmtop?
>
> ------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------
> Hi Axel,
>
> Which version of X-Finder are you using? I use to have the same thing happen
> when I had version R.8.
>
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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 09:42:21 -0400
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Mon, 31 May 1999 09:18:57 -0400 (EDT)

02h15m54s ago ...
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> if I use Memo as Editor for X-Finder with the following:
>
> > %e,b800,240r||memo (as suggested by Peniel)
>
> This editor setting does not work right,

Strange.  I'm sure the line I sent you worked for me when I tried it.
Now it does NOTHING at all...

Hmmm - try removing the last 2 letters.  e.g.

        %e,b800,240r||me

This might help.  I just tried it, and it worked OK.  Don't know why,
though.  This is just a variation of the line to start ME, but with
MEMOs hot key code instead of 0.  I don't know what the part after the
|| does when starting a built-in app.  For DOS apps, the program file
path\name goes there.

Apologies for the non-working line.

Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 11:14:18 +0100
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> email on her dialup account with a size of 7M
> And she just couldnt download it. She only has a 28.8k modem.
> She (and othhers) tried to remove it with Netscape mail, but As far as
> they could tell, there was no way to remove non downloaded messages.
>
> So the other other week when I visited here I asked her for her login
> and password. Fired up WWW/LX. connected my Apex combo 2400bps pcmcia modem
> and removed the dredful message!

So again David beat Goliath! Has this person already been caught
who sent this 7MB email? ;)

Reinhard



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>   on a single speed 200LX:
>
> C:  (ram)
>                 8.4 sec         5.9 sec
> A: 4 meg Sandisk CF
>                 8.0              5.8
> A: 32 meg Lexar 4X CF
>                 9.2              5.8
> A: 2meg Maxell CF
>                11.7             5.85
> A: 10 meg Sundisk  1992 (c)
>                46.2             6.3

Hi,


Oh! I have always been using a 10Mb sundisk. I didn't know that
there are so much faster alternatives. Though I never really
felt any pain about it being so slow. Maybe I just got used to
it over the years <g>. Also I didn't know that anything is
faster than the built-in RAM.
But what I definetely did realize is that the Flashcard is much
faster accessed when used with my notebook.

Maybe I will look for a CF. Does anybody of the german readers
know where to get them here at a reasonable price?

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 10:15:15 -0400
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Mon, 31 May 1999 10:02:37 -0400 (EDT)

Hello again-

OK after I re-RTFM - I found the explanation of the line to launch MEMO
as editor.  The "me" after the || is an XF-specific command to start
either MemoExpress OR MEMO.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 16:36:15 +0100
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Hi Peniel,
thanks for Your quick answer. After reading the Config.doc of X-Finder I
tried it already with ME. Before I made also the experience that MEMO
did'nt start with MEMO. So this is not the problem.

The problem is, if I choose a Textfile and push F9, Memo starts, but
empty, not with the choosed file as content, Memo instead opens itself the
File-Menu with the option "Format" and there the option "Text". As result
the Textformat-Window appears, where You can choose between the options
"Bold" and "Underlined". That's it.

As Quinton (QMan) wrote me earlier today, the same happens to
his HP. (So I think it has nothing to do with my Palmtop, which is a
German one)

Cheers, Axel

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On Mon, 31 May 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Mon, 31 May 1999 09:18:57 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hmmm - try removing the last 2 letters.  e.g.
>
>         %e,b800,240r||me
>
> This might help.  I just tried it, and it worked OK.  Don't know why,
> though.  This is just a variation of the line to start ME, but with
> MEMOs hot key code instead of 0.  I don't know what the part after the
> || does when starting a built-in app.  For DOS apps, the program file
> path\name goes there.
>
> Apologies for the non-working line.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 16:16:12 +0200
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> I want to use the external modem which is connected to my pc's com1 with
> www/lx from my hp200.
...
> I have found a program (Patchcom) which connects the com1 and the com2.
> But the textfile talks about a internal modem and I can not get this
> program to work with my equipment... this program was programmed for
> exactly this purpose...but as I said I can not get it to work...
...
> Martin Bergvill

I did not get this program to work either.
I used another prog to do this.
Can not remember the name but it is found on SUPER.
It was suposed to be a hp200lx prog that lets You use Your hp with a
pcmcia modem as a external modem for a desktop PC.
I used this prog on my desktop PC instead, using Palrun.
Now You can connect Your external modem to Your PC com1 and connect
Your hp200lx to the PC com2 and use the external modem as if it was
connected directly to Yor hp.

Try to search SUPER with pcmcia modem com1 etc etc.

      /tomas moberg
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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 11:55:26 -0400
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Mon, 31 May 1999 11:43:20 -0400 (EDT)

53m16s ....>> in the future <<....
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> The problem is, if I choose a Textfile and push F9, Memo starts, but
> empty, not with the choosed file as content, Memo instead opens itself =
the
> File-Menu with the option "Format" and there the option "Text". As =
result
> the Textformat-Window appears, where You can choose between the options
> "Bold" and "Underlined". That's it.

This is very strange.  After making the correction, I tried opening
files in MEMO.  Worked fine both choosing text files and F9 to edit
and with F7 to edit finder.env.  Thought maybe Buddy was interacting
with XF, so tried it with Buddy both on and off, and it works both
ways.

> As Quinton (QMan) wrote me earlier today, the same happens to
> his HP. (So I think it has nothing to do with my Palmtop, which is a
> German one)

OK - so my second guess is also wrong.  The only other thing I can
think of trying is to delete the memoed.env file from c:\_dat, then
start MEMO from the blue key to create a new one.  Sometimes this
works for me when MEMO acts wierd.

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              beta 1
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> I get the feeling that appending default domains is something that has
> fallen by the wayside over the years.

Amanda is correct, this is how the resolver works as weird as it
seems.  There is also a security update RFC for this to limit how
far the resolver is supposed to go, (not getting down to something
like gates.microsoft.com.edu where a bogus server can pretend to be
the right machine).  I think this attack is bogus anyway for a variety
of reasons.

This search list is what makes wildcard DNS records (which are rather
cool) very quirky.

> I'm open to suggestions on how to resolve this contradiction ...

Leaving it the way you have it should only break people with subdomains
(for instance, ftp.us.bigcorporation.com and ftp.uk.bigcorporation.com
might be accessed currently as ftp.us and ftp.uk by the users)

You might try doing a strcmp of fewer and fewer parts of the domain
against the end of the name you're resolving.  This would tell you how
far to go before you're just duplicating part of the name.

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>Serb troups have been trying to suppress not only the Kosovo
>but also tried to invade my homecountry Carinthia/Austria twice
>after each World War.

Well said, Hans Peter. This is not a political discussion group, but
messages like Dejan's must be answered.

>I don't want to be rude and go without saying 'Goodbye'.

Brainwashing twaddle. Dejan also did a neat job some weeks back; some
people actually sent an apologetic answer. Hands up - how many believe
he actually was just trying to be polite?

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Hi all,

I've just got ToDo up and running and am impressed so far, I have a quick
question on setting the number of lines or elements for each column/topic.

The standard seems to be 26, but I want to reduce it to 10 so it all fits
on one
screen. How do I add or remove the extra lines?

David

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cross posted to hphand as well

hi folks,
trying to use www/lx plus extra latest ver to login to my isp here in
muscat.
i get as far as dialing, connect,
negotiating - lcp - done
then "authentication - REJECTED"
rejection is painful.  can someone steer me in the right direction pls?

tom in muscat
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Hi Quinton,

I'm using the latest version of X-Finder, the R9


------------------------------ Original Message -------------------------------


Hi Axel,

As a workaround try adding the following lines to the

"#Execution by matched file extension" section of your finder.env file.

This should get memo to open .txt .doc. env files, but the ÝF7¨ Custom key
won't work for editing your finder.env file.

.txt ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
.doc ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo
.env ,u ,$c %p%c;$m {xb800}{F9}{Paste}{Enter}                   #Memo


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 19:20:18 +0200
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              modem via pc with a hp200
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Tomas Moberg wrote:

> > I have found a program (Patchcom) which connects the com1 and the com2.
> > But the textfile talks about a internal modem and I can not get this
> > program to work with my equipment... this program was programmed for
> > exactly this purpose...but as I said I can not get it to work...
> ...
> > Martin Bergvill
>
> I did not get this program to work either.
> I used another prog to do this.
>

Yes the program is called "comlink"

> Can not remember the name but it is found on SUPER.
> It was suposed to be a hp200lx prog that lets You use Your hp with a
> pcmcia modem as a external modem for a desktop PC.
>

> I used this prog on my desktop PC instead, using Palrun.
> Now You can connect Your external modem to Your PC com1 and connect
> Your hp200lx to the PC com2 and use the external modem as if it was
> connected directly to Yor hp.
>

Can not get this program to work either...the screen get scrambled on the pc
when I run it with palrun..


>
> Try to search SUPER with pcmcia modem com1 etc etc.
>

Had it on my hardrive already...

>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala

Thanks for the tip....

Guess what: I found all I need to make myself an adapter. I have a 25 pin to
put into my external modem. And I have a 9 pin to put into my hp seriellcable.
All I need now is the pinout. Can anybody help me with the pin out so I can
begin using my hp for mail/news...

Thanks in advance..

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
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Hi friends,

> As you know, the 200LX will shut itself off (when on batteries)
> after three minutes without a keystroke.  Every now and then my
> unit seems to shut off much more quickly.  I don't have much
> data, but my impression is that it usually happens when my AAs
> are low.
>
> Yesterday I was able to reproduce and quantify this behavior.
> My NiCds were at 2 bars remaining (in Setup) and I had a graph
> displayed in 1-2-3.  The unit shut off after 1 minute without
> a keystroke.

I have made the opposite experiences: Sometimes the LX doesn't shut off
itself at all (although it's not busy and LXPRO sais "3 minutes".
Don't know why.

BTW a question: What are the conditions (normally) for the palmtop not
shutting off at all? And is this always the case when also the on/off
key doesn't work? Or are these independant from each other?

Sometimes when the on/off key doesn't work, I don't know if the
system crashed of if the palmtop is only still busy (for example while
making calculations with Derive or while loading a huge program).

GTX
daniel

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Hi Roger,

> >Has anyone written a macro for data entry that after pressing enter, it
> >automatically goes down a cell?
>
> Just press the 'down' key instead of 'enter'.

I think he hasn't a down key on his key pad.

GTX
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Hi Terry,

> Did anyone figure out a way to have the 200lx turn itself on in the middle
> of the night to initialize the daily greeting, then power down, so that
> turning it on in the morning is a tad faster?
>

There is an easier way to manage this:
Go into the options menu and switch off the daily greeting!

GTX
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Hi Martin,

> Guess what: I found all I need to make myself an adapter. I have a 25 pin to
> put into my external modem. And I have a 9 pin to put into my hp seriellcable.
> All I need now is the pinout. Can anybody help me with the pin out so I can
> begin using my hp for mail/news...

Have a look at my article about the serial port at
http://www.palmtop.net/more.html

Hope you"ll find the needed information there.

GTX
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> then "authentication - REJECTED"

Either your ISP login or your password (or both) is wrong.

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Funny you should ask John.

I worked all weekend trying to convert my PE quote macros to a System Manager
macros without success. So I just settled on a macros that would insert the
above line. (:-)

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Hi Qman

How do you deal with the varible number of lines with a macro?

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I have made the opposite experiences: Sometimes the LX doesn't shut off
itself at all (although it's not busy and LXPRO sais "3 minutes".
Don't know why.

BTW a question: What are the conditions (normally) for the palmtop not
shutting off at all? And is this always the case when also the on/off
key doesn't work? Or are these independant from each other?

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The only time the lx should not shut off is when it is charging. It has to stay
on then.

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On 30-May-99, David Cripps wrote:
> I've just got ToDo up and running and am impressed so far, I have a quick
> question on setting the number of lines or elements for each column/topic.

You can set this when you create a new .tdb with under the "File/New..."
menu.  The current settings are shown on your titlebar as
<filename>/<columns>/<rows>/<notesize>.  Importing and exporting the data
itself can be done using the "File/CSV in..." or "File/CSV out..." menues.

Personally, I use 10x26x512 (I'm not sure why the author chose 26 default
rows) but only view the active cells by expanding the cellsize using
{ctrl-left} and {ctrl-right} so that my 4 or 5 active columns fill the
whole screen.  Setting the fontsize using {fn-zoom} helps make the screen
more visible.  With the small font, I can get 10 rows on-screen; 8 with the
medium and large fonts.  In my notes I enter a "headline" on the first line
of the note, which shows up on the main screen.

Perhaps the author could add an expand function (the {f6} key looks open)
which automatically expands the active cells to fill the screen?

Toggling the minimize function {f8} can give you an overview of the page.
The frames are small, but you can make out their differences so you can
quickly get a sense of how many things are due on that day.

Hitting {enter} on an entry shows me the whole note if there's additional
information below the headline.  I have selected "Note Insert Mode" under
"Options/Setting..." which places the cursor at the end of the note for
quick entry.

I also found that {fn-scrl} locks the cursor at the top-left while the whole
spreadsheet moves around it (an 'S' appears at the top, to the left of the
date).  I don't like this behavior much, but it does allow you to scroll
one cell at a time rather than a page at a time.

Todo.exm is a great program!  I wasn't sure how to use it at first, but now
I never use the "Todo's" in Appt anymore.  It's so much easier to be able
to organize your day when you can see the structure of tasks rather than a
long one-dimensional list.  I especially like being able to switch between
two different .TDB's on-the-fly by pressing {backsp}.  I wish that the
other databases supported this function!

While I'm on the subject, I might as well mention that FIT.exm (available
from the same site) is a great complement to ToDo.exm.  The functionality
is about the same, but there are no dates and each field is essentially
just a framed note.  I had a lot of lists of stuff on my Appt todo page
that I kept around as random thoughts, but didn't access often.  These
freeform ideas are well-suited for FIT.exm.

Hope this helps!

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On 31-May-99, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>> Did anyone figure out a way to have the 200lx turn itself on in the
>> middle of the night to initialize the daily greeting, then power down, so
>> that turning it on in the morning is a tad faster?
>
> There is an easier way to manage this:
> Go into the options menu and switch off the daily greeting!

I still want the daily greeting, but don't want to wait for the time it
takes to load the Appt.pim and scan the .adb for the day's tasks.

You know, reading that last sentence makes me realize just how time-spoiled
we are using an instant-on palmtop!

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Perhaps you could use an editor to split the incoming file into
two pieces?  Rename one some different name and process them
separately.

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Thanks Ted

I was trying to avoid anything like that<g>. I ended up reading them in a text
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Mon, 31 May 1999 15:44:56 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Axel-

Heard from Qman a little while ago. and now I'm back to thinking that
the problem may be the German language palmtop.  XF appears to use a
keystuff macro to load the selected file into MEMO.  My guess is that
on your German palmtop the menu keys for selecting a file to open are
completely different from the English version.  If that's the problem,
it would require a recompile of XF for the proper keypresses.  Or - if
you can find the right part of the XF executable file it could
probably be altered with a hex editor...

Other than that - Qman's work-arounds may be the only answer.  Or use a
DOS editor.

Regards,

-Peniel
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03h08m20s ago ...
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Axel Klag wrote:

> The problem is, if I choose a Textfile and push F9, Memo starts, but
> empty, not with the choosed file as content, Memo instead opens itself =
the
> File-Menu with the option "Format" and there the option "Text". As =
result
> the Textformat-Window appears, where You can choose between the options
> "Bold" and "Underlined". That's it.
>
> As Quinton (QMan) wrote me earlier today, the same happens to
> his HP. (So I think it has nothing to do with my Palmtop, which is a
> German one)

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Can someone give me the URL for the Vector site that has all of the Japanese
LX software on it? Also, does any one have a current and correct email
address for Toshiki that has done some of the Japanese to English
translations on some of the Japanese software?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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I gave up on trying to convert the below PE macro to a system manager macro.
But was wondering if anybody else is up to the task. If so here it is.

;F3  = (inserts the quote symbols - select text first!)
#3d00=#4b00#011b#0d2b#1c0d#1c0d



Regards,


Qman...
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Mon, 31 May 1999 17:09:17 -0400 (EDT)

01h03m10s ago ...
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Can someone give me the URL for the Vector site that has all of the =
Japanese
> LX software on it? Also, does any one have a current and correct email
> address for Toshiki that has done some of the Japanese to English
> translations on some of the Japanese software?

Hi Jeff-

According to XF docs - Toshiki Sasabe is at:
        toshiki@j.email.ne.jp

The Vector site is:
        http://www.vector.co.jp/common/dos/util/machine/hp/

The Vector site has been pretty slow lately, but has lots of cool
stuff.  You might want to work your way up thru the subdirectories to
look for other software, too.

HTH

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Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:

> Did anyone figure out a way to have the 200lx turn itself on in the middle
> of the night to initialize the daily greeting, then power down, so that
> turning it on in the morning is a tad faster?

There are utility programs, such as Buddy, that will change
the time of the deaily greeting.  So, if you usually turn the
palmtop for the first time at 7am, then change the greeting to
happen at 8:00 so it does not bother you the first thing in the
morning.

Instead, if you don't want the greeting at all, you can turn
it off by removing the checkmark at Menu Options daily
Greeting.


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"Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM> wrote:

> I don't recall where I got this notion, but I thought that the RAM cards I
> used always drew power from the palmtop's batteries or A/C adapter when they
> were inserted, whether the palmtop was on or not.  Their internal lithium
> cells were supposed to be only for when they were removed

No, when the palmtop is off, the PCMCIA slot gets no power.
Then SRAM cards must provide their own power.  The only time
SRAM cards get juice from the palmtop is when its on.  This is
why if you want to preserve the SRAM's battery, plug it into a
palmtop, turn on the palmtop and plug it into an AC adapter so
it stays on.


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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> My question is: Is it safer for the serial port to build a 27 ohms
> resistor into the LED light (which gets a little bit darker then) or
> isn't it useful? It works greatly without, but maybe you remeber the
> discussion about the safety of the port

I agreee with Laurence that the specs for RS-232 make the
electronics driving the signals have to tolerate short
curcuits, etc.  So, there is a current limiting feature on the
RS-232 lines from the palmtop and that even a dead short would
not hurt them.  So, putting a LED in there with no resistor
should not do any harm.

The purpose of a limiting resistor in series with a LED under
notmal circumstances is there to drop the voltage down to what
the LED likes and therefore only the proper amount of current
will flow through the LED.  With the palmtop's RS-232 lines,
they seem to already be limited to about 9-13 ma which is what
your LED probably wants anyway.

From your wiring diagrams, it seems that you are driving the
LED from the Transmit Data (TxD) line.  I made a LED light
myself with two LED's and connected them to the two hardware
control lines output from the palmtop rather than the TxD.


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Chuck Sutherland <sutherla@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

> We BOTH have had corruption in Phone
> Book...of individual records and occassionally the entire phone database.
> This is usually associated with an occurance of low battery warnings.  I
> speculate that the problem is somehow associated with power fluctuations

Don't let the batteries get so low.  I have not received a low
battery condition in many years and I have never had a phone
book corruption.   I just don't let the batteries get so low.
I don't think it is fun to risk my data in the attempt to play
on the bring of low batteries.

Another think I always do is keep my phone book file (and Appt
and data base files) closed when I am not using them.  I think
you are always asking for trouble to keep the file open when
they don't need to be.


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A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> It is even a good idea to pull the flash card out, since even with palmtops
> off, the flash cards draw a bit of current

Avi, I have never heard that to be the case.  When the palmtop
is turned off, there is absolutely no power going to the PCMCIA
slot.  Even an SRAM card which needs to have constant power to
maintain memory must rely on its own internal battery while
the palmtop is turned off.

When the palmtop is off, the only power draw is to maintain
the palmtop's internal RAM and the real time clock.


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Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu> wrote:

> The only time I have ever had a Stack Overflow was when I tried to run
> QFax. I tried adding a STACKS command to CONFIG.SYS (probably 9,512),
> but it didn't help

It is recommended with the HP palmtop to not include a STACKS
command in the CONFIG.SYS so that the defaults can be used.
These defaults which I think are different for the palmtop
than normal DOS should work best.  Because of the power
management features of the palmtop, a STACKS of 0,0 is NOT a
good idea.


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 17:52:41 -0400
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Sharon Rose <sharon_rose@IRISHROSE.COM> wrote:

> The bad actor turned out
> to be the driver for my Thin Fax EXP card. I guess I shouldn't be surprise
> d, as it conflicted with Stacker, too

Are you still using Stacker?  Although this is not a direct
conflict wit serial communications, Stacker will slow down
writing to the disk because it needs to compress the data.
This is even worse with a Stacked flash card.  So, a high
speed file download could have trouble if the data is going to
the Stacked drive.  Perhaps you can change your download
directory to be on another drive instead of the Stacker one.


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 17:52:26 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Modems that Work on the HP200LX
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Leon Phillips <LnC.Phillips@BIGPOND.COM> wrote:

> the USA including NY !!!   For those US list
> members, I am looking forward to visiting your country and have been busy
> downloading all the relevant LXMAPs

Leon, I live in New Jeersey, near New York city, and like to
get together with fellow palmtop users who visit here.

When will you be visiting NY?  For how long?  And do you think
you would be able to meet with me for lunch or dinner some
day?  We could even do some sight seing together if you would
like.

Let's finish this conversation off of the list (via private
Email) so we don't bother the good folks here with the
details.


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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 17:52:31 -0400
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David Alm <David.Alm@CMICH.EDU> wrote:

> Does anyone have any (non-assembly) source code to use the 200LX serial
> port?

I don't have anything like that, but I know that the serial
port of the palmtop is quite standard and any one of the
publicly available libraries for serial comms should work.


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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:09:38 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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10 minutes ago I got my Hp 200 to speak to my external modem..I am now
up and running..but I have a few questions:

When I push compose I get the address suppoert@dasoft.. in the "To"
field every time..why is that?

When I download messages from the list.hplx and I want to reply. What
do I have to do? I can not send to the newsgroup:list.hplx I have to
send to the emailaddress..could anyone help me with these two
questions??

Thanks in advance

--
Mvh/Regards
Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:13:39 +1200
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Stan wrote:
>No, when the palmtop is off, the PCMCIA slot gets no power.
>Then SRAM cards must provide their own power.  The only time
>SRAM cards get juice from the palmtop is when its on.  This is
>why if you want to preserve the SRAM's battery, plug it into a
>palmtop, turn on the palmtop and plug it into an AC adapter so
>it stays on.

Does this mean that eventually a CF will go 'flat'? If so, what do you do
then?

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:35:11 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: The death and resurrection of my LX
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Roger,

The SRAM cards have an internal battery that can go flat. The CF cards have
a non-volatile memory and therefore do not need batteries.

Does anyone still use SRAM cards despite the lower available capacities? If
so, why? Is there a speed advantage?

Anand.

At 11:13 AM 01-06-1999 Tuesday +1200, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
>Stan wrote:
>>No, when the palmtop is off, the PCMCIA slot gets no power.
>>Then SRAM cards must provide their own power.  The only time
>>SRAM cards get juice from the palmtop is when its on.  This is
>>why if you want to preserve the SRAM's battery, plug it into a
>>palmtop, turn on the palmtop and plug it into an AC adapter so
>>it stays on.
>
>Does this mean that eventually a CF will go 'flat'? If so, what do you do
>then?
>
>Cheers, Roger
>

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 17:37:53 -0700
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On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Anand Rao wrote:

> Does anyone still use SRAM cards despite the lower available
> capacities? If so, why? Is there a speed advantage?

There's somewhat of a speed advantage, although it's probably not very
much compared to the newer flash cards.  The other advantage is that SRAM
cards use a lot less current.  However, I think that most anybody these
days should get a flash card rather than an SRAM card.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:43:54 +0800
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As one just recovering from data corruption, my advice is to completely
wipe out the RAM contents (I presume you have regular backups),
re-initailise the unit, and load the files one by one, cleaning each
thoroughly. I suspect that corrupt data lurking about somewhere may still
cause corruption when accessed. Also, you do not know which of the .com and
.exe files have been corrupted, turning them into what has been called here
as 'rogue programs'. That's why you need to re-load all programs.

In a data corruption of this sort (to borrow a phrase) what is revealed is
important, but what is concealed is vital! so, ensure that you have done a
thorough job of disinfecting.

Anand.

At 05:52 PM 31-05-1999 Monday -0400, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>Chuck Sutherland <sutherla@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>> We BOTH have had corruption in Phone
>> Book...of individual records and occassionally the entire phone database.
>> This is usually associated with an occurance of low battery warnings.  I
>> speculate that the problem is somehow associated with power fluctuations
>
>Don't let the batteries get so low.  I have not received a low
>battery condition in many years and I have never had a phone
>book corruption.   I just don't let the batteries get so low.
>I don't think it is fun to risk my data in the attempt to play
>on the bring of low batteries.
>
>Another think I always do is keep my phone book file (and Appt
>and data base files) closed when I am not using them.  I think
>you are always asking for trouble to keep the file open when
>they don't need to be.
>
>
>Stan
>
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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:21:24 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Comments:     Originally-From: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com>
From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking for beta testers for LXTCP 1.2 beta 2 and PNR 3.2
              beta 1
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Steven Lawson writes:
> Amanda is correct, this is how the resolver works as weird as it
> seems.  There is also a security update RFC for this to limit how
> far the resolver is supposed to go, (not getting down to something
> like gates.microsoft.com.edu where a bogus server can pretend to be
> the right machine).

Steve, thanks for pointing out the existence of an RFC on the subject.

> > I'm open to suggestions on how to resolve this contradiction ...
>
> Leaving it the way you have it should only break people with subdomains
> (for instance, ftp.us.bigcorporation.com and ftp.uk.bigcorporation.com
> might be accessed currently as ftp.us and ftp.uk by the users)

RFC1535 details exactly what I must do.  I will follow it's advice.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:51:22 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Looking for beta testers for LXTCP 1.2 beta 2 and PNR 3.2
              beta 1
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amanda writes:
> > No-one ever says "www.microsoft.com.", do they ?
>
> You're right, and it doesn't work either. "www.netscape.com."
> works. It seems that HTTP 1.1 gives the host name to the web server
> as you wrote it, and Microsofts web server don't grok the trailing
> dot. TCP/IP is a fairly new invention at Microsoft... :-)

:-)

> > But lots of things require you to have a default domain
>
> Can't you use the 'hostname' parameter in wattcp.cfg for these things?

Agreed.  The next version of LXTCP will recommend a FQDN for hostname,
and will grab the domain name from the hostname.  I might even add a
"domainname" directive for specifying the domain name directly.

> If you leave your fix in the code then please don't describe it as a
> fix for a broken WatTCP. It is the rest of the world that's broken,
> not WatTCP.

Agreed that WatTCP is not broken.  However, it is a fact that the
default WatTCP stack does not follow the recommendations in RFC1535
(probably because it hasn't been modified since before RFC1535 was
written).  I will be "fixing" it so that it does follow all relevant
RFC's as follows:

1/ If the search name contains a '.', then it is searched for as-is.
2/ If that fails, or the search name does not contain a '.', then the
   domains in the domainslist are added, one at a time, until a match
   is found.  Note that only the domains listed are appended - no parents
   of those domains are used.
3/ If no explicit domainslist is specified, then an implicit
   domainslist consists of the default domain only.
3/ ÝCurrently, the domainslist only allows one domain - this will
   be fixed in the future.¨

So if someone has domainslist="lxtcp.hplx.net", then a search for
"mail" will try "mail.lxtcp.hplx.net" only, and a search for
"mail.isp.com" will try "mail.isp.com" only.

When support for more than one domain in the domainslist is
implemented, then with a hostname of "host.us.company.com" and a
domainslist of "us.company.com,company.com", then a search for "ftp"
will look for "ftp.us.company.com" then "ftp.company.com", a search
for "ftp.uk" will look for "ftp.uk" then "ftp.uk.us.company.com" then
"ftp.uk.company.com", and a search for "ftp.us" will look for "ftp.us"
then "ftp.us.us.company.com" then "ftp.us.company.com".

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 21:16:14 -0400
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              William Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Hi,

I have Buddy running on my 200LX and love it.  I've registered it but did
not buy the printed manual.  Maybe that's my problem but I'll ask anyway.  I
liked to use SmartCaps on my older LX's but this one have a Greek letter
beta above the 'S' and when I hit Fn+S I get a beta and do not activate
SmartCaps.  Does anyone have a work around to turn on SmartCaps?

Thanks,

Bill

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 21:46:01 -0400
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              Harris <upstate@PIPELINE.COM>
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Hi all,

I unfortunately had my 200LX lock up completely last week, and I had to do
a complete reset to get it working again.  I made a backup of all of my
data files last month, so I'm not completely out of the water.

However, I can't get Transfile Win 200 to work again.  I enabled Server
Mode in Filer --> Communications --> Remote Settings, but the program on my
desktop just couldn't get a connection to the palmtop.

It's been so long since I originally set up Transfile, so I guess I'm
missing something.  Can anyone help?

Thanks very much!

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 19:05:56 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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If your running Buddy, make sure the serial port is turned on.  Sometimes
even when it is on, I have to push the minus - then plus + to turn it back
on.  Then it works.

Make sure the speeds match on both like 57,600.

Good luck

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302

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From: Harris <upstate@PIPELINE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 6:57 PM
Subject: Need help with Transfile Win 200


>Hi all,
>
>I unfortunately had my 200LX lock up completely last week, and I had to do
>a complete reset to get it working again.  I made a backup of all of my
>data files last month, so I'm not completely out of the water.
>
>However, I can't get Transfile Win 200 to work again.  I enabled Server
>Mode in Filer --> Communications --> Remote Settings, but the program on my
>desktop just couldn't get a connection to the palmtop.
>
>It's been so long since I originally set up Transfile, so I guess I'm
>missing something.  Can anyone help?
>
>Thanks very much!
>
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>

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Date:         Mon, 31 May 1999 19:08:04 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      FLUFF: 200LX in "The Real McCoy"
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I was just watching "The Real McCoy," with Kim Basinger and Val Kilmer,
and as she's preparing to rob the bank, there's a flash of a bunch of
numbers scrolling on the screen of a unit that's obviously a 200LX.
Anybody else seen this?

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 1999 04:31:32 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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> 10 minutes ago I got my Hp 200 to speak to my external modem..I am now
> up and running..but I have a few questions:
>
> When I push compose I get the address suppoert@dasoft.. in the "To"
> field every time..why is that?

This problem I have not found a solution too yet..I have to push Del to
remove the address and then Pick to pick the right one..

>
> When I download messages from the list.hplx and I want to reply. What
> do I have to do? I can not send to the newsgroup:list.hplx I have to
> send to the emailaddress..could anyone help me with these two
> questions??

Found the answer to this problem..(Shift F2)

>
> Thanks in advance
>


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Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
Mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462

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