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Hans
You mentioned that you use these regularly.  I have
installed them but PIM tells me that I need PE running
first.  But when I run PE first I get "there is another
DOS application running already - please close the other
application" when I try to launch PIM.  What's wrong?
Should I run it with Maxdos session?
TIA
Tony.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:31:01 -0800
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HP Staber wrote:
> D&A Software Support wrote:
> >
> > This puzzles me: It happened many times before. We offer the
> > latest FOR FREE, in a maintained site (clearly the Palmtop.net
    --- snip ---

> www.palmtop.net or SUPER site is probably easier to remember and to
> quote out of the head.

Yes, that's what Daniel or Domingo said, and it makes sense.
So how to make sure that visitors can get the most uptodate
software?

David Sargeant and I are communicating now to see if we can
solve this to give the visitors both: their familiar URL _and_
fresh software versions.

I think we may have a solution, but I do not know for sure yet.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:30:58 -0800
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Domingo wrote:
> That's strange, because palmtop.net has had outside links for a
> long time (Nettamer is one which comes to mind).  Unless
> something changed since last time I checked that program a
> couple of years ago, the Nettamer link always took me to the
> author's web site.

I just joined HPLX again, so I am replying directly. I have an
email from David Sargeant, and he seems to be interested in
going to direct links to D&A sites, now that he is maintaining
the site. He raised a good issue and I think we may be able to
resolve this. We'll have to wait a bit more time.

I wrote:
> Unfortunately, Palmtop.net (waaay back) did not want to use

This goes back to maybe 1996? 1997? I do not recall exactly. I
never pursued it much beyond an occasional post like I posted
to you. This time, there is a move! I am quite sure David and
I can come to an agreement.

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Avi
Welcome back.  Question for Mindmap/lx:  does it
integrate with the PIM/lx suite?
TIA
Tony.


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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:55:47 +1200
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Does anyone know where I can find this program?  I searched
on SUPER but unsuccessfully.
TIA
Tony.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:03:12 -0800
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Tony Kan wrote:
> first.  But when I run PE first I get "there is another
> DOS application running already - please close the other
> application" when I try to launch PIM.  What's wrong?

Start PE and look at its function keys! One is PIMs. Go for
it!

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Welcome back. Nice to see your name here again.

Avi Meshar ably wrote:
> Five people assured me lately that the list is a nice and
> decent place without personal attacks and no hassling. They
> also said I'd enjoy myself again here. You all know who you
> are, and you are now on the hook! <G>

Hope the hook is not sharp! <g>

It is very busy here!

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Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:11:23 -0800
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Tony Kan wrote:
> Welcome back.  Question for Mindmap/lx:  does it

Thanks.

> integrate with the PIM/lx suite?

How would you like to have it integrated?

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:33:40 +0200
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Hi Oliver!

<< Hi everyone,
<<
<< Was just wondering if anyone has written a DOS software to be able to
<< serially download pictures from the Kodak DC215 to the HPLX?

I've got a program for the DC 215. I'll send it to you.

Regards,
Stephan

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:19:41 +0100
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Avi,

> So how to make sure that visitors can get the most uptodate
> software?

In my opinion it's up to the user of the software. For me it is
sufficient if you prominently state in the docs that the latest and
greatest version is availlable at ftp.dasoft.com.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:19:43 +0100
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Tony,

> Does anyone know where I can find this program?  I searched
> on SUPER but unsuccessfully.

If you are looking for a program to translate ADB so that it can be
imported into PIM/PE : it is included in the PIM/LX package as zip file

CONVERT  ZIP     34502 06-21-99   7:41p


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Tony,

> Question for Mindmap/lx:  does it
> integrate with the PIM/lx suite?

It does integrate perfectly, give it a try. It is a 100% PE outline
compatible.

Kind regards

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:34:07 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Kodak DC 215
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Does the progrsamm also support earlier modells like the DC50.

If possible, please make the Programmm publicly available - best would
be with source.

Sven

On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Stephan İiso-8859-1¨ L=FCttjohann wrote:

> Hi Oliver!
>=20
> << Hi everyone,
> <<
> << Was just wondering if anyone has written a DOS software to be able to
> << serially download pictures from the Kodak DC215 to the HPLX?
>=20
> I've got a program for the DC 215. I'll send it to you.
>=20
> Regards,
> Stephan
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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:08:05 +0100
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>
> Tony Kan wrote:
> > first.  But when I run PE first I get "there is another
> > DOS application running already - please close the other
> > application" when I try to launch PIM.  What's wrong?
>
> Start PE and look at its function keys! One is PIMs. Go for
> it!

This will just display a list of frequently used ASCII textfiles
defined in İMENU¨ section of pe.cfg (max 10 files I think).

I think Tony has difficulties starting PIM/PE and I have responded to
him privately already.

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> Date:    Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:37:56 -0800
> From:    Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> Subject: Hi again.
>
> Five people assured me lately that the list is a nice and
> decent place without personal attacks and no hassling. They
> also said I'd enjoy myself again here. You all know who you
> are, and you are now on the hook! <G>
>
> If you do not know mw, I am Avi Meshar and I run D&A Software.
> We recently released MindMap/LX!
>
> Over the past few years I have been up to my wywballs in
> Palmtops, and still am. I love these machines - there are none
> better that I have seen so far.
>
> Those of you who know me, well... you do. <g>
>
>   Avi

Welcome back, Avi.  This place hasn't been the same without you.
Far too quiet.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:27:54 -0400
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07/01/01 11:12 am

Helmuth Guenther had this responce to Tony Kan's request, but it was
bounced due to the 140 line limit on the LIST. I thought it was useful
enough to reformat into 2 messages & post.

Cheers...AJKind


>>> Part 1 begins Here...AJKind <<<

--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 12:04:16 +0200
From: Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@attglobal.net>
To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Fwd: Rejected posting to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

Al,

would you mind, sending this info to the requestor?

Thank you!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:14:06 +0200
From: Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@attglobal.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: PIM/LX, PE/LX and Pro/LX

Tony,

I am not Hans, but this is the way I use it a lot since it became
available.

I will make it short, here are my batchfiles and relevant parts of my =
config
files

pe.bat
@echo off
c:
cd \pim
c:\bin\maxdos.com -l e35
pe
c:\bin\maxdos.com -r
cd \

pe.cfg
; This is the configuration file for PalEdit

...
; program that lets you choose a file
Chooser=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com pick.exe

....

İDB¨
; parameters for database functions (see PE.DOC)
PHONE.PIM=3D.p

İPIM¨
; parameters for PIM functions (see PIM.DOC)
Data=3Dc:\daten\pim\data
Index=3Dc:\daten\pim\index
Cur=3Dc:\daten\pim\data\notes.pim
Prog=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com c:\pim\pim.exe
Find=3Dc:\utility\find\find.exe

İMenu¨
; Menu of files accessable through F6
&notes=3D!c:\daten\pim\data\notes.pim
&Email=3DİEmail¨
...

İEmail¨
&post=3D!c:\www\post.adr
...

>>> Part one ends here...AJKind <<<


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>>> Begin Part 2...AJKind <<<

pim.cfg
İPIM¨
Data=3Dc:\daten\pim\data
Index=3Dc:\daten\pim\index
Prio=3DB
DayFirst=3D0
DateDeli=3D-/.
TimeDeli=3D:
ItemSpace=3D32000
InitRange=3D120
CutOff=3D120
DefDur=3D60

İChoice¨
notes=3D

İDisplay¨
StartDay=3D 0
EndDay =3D  6
StartTime =3D 480
EndTime   =3D 1020
Time1 =3D 480
Time2 =3D 1020
TopLines=3D3
AMPM=3D0
Footer=3D1
Default=3D.
Explode=3D1

İFonts¨
Fontdir=3Dc:\www\hv\fonts
Header=3DMedium
Data=3DSmall
;Data=3Dluhs13n.hfn
Month=3DSmall
Footer=3DSmall
;Footer=3Dluhs13n.hfn
List=3DSmall
;List=3Dluhs13n.hfn

İCategories¨
Privat=3D
Geburtstag=3D
Urlaub=3D
Event=3D
Volkswagen=3D
Hotel=3D
CSC=3D
Restaurant=3D
Boston=3D
New_York=3D
Daniel=3D
ISIM=3D
video=3D
VIAG=3D

İFilters¨
None=3D
Private=3DPrivate
Business=3DPrivate NOT
Urlaub=3DUrlaub
Event=3DEvent
Telekom=3DTelekom
CSC=3DCSC
VIAG=3DVIAG

; default weekly appt view
İ.¨
View=3D3
Type=3D6
Filter=3D
Sort=3D0
Time=3D1

; pending business tasks
İb¨
View=3D1
Type=3D2
Filter=3DPrivate NOT
;Sort=3D1

; pending private tasks
İp¨
View=3D1
Type=3D2
Filter=3DPrivate
;Sort=3D1

; Urlaub
İu¨
View=3D4
Type=3D0
Filter=3DUrlaub
;Sort=3D1

; Daniel
İd¨
View=3D3
Type=3D6
Filter=3DDaniel
;Sort=3D1

; VIAG
İv¨
View=3D3
Type=3D6
Filter=3DVIAG
;Sort=3D1
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D

You might use maxdos according to your needs, see maxdos docs.

Kind regards

Helmuth

>>> End part 2...AJKind <<<

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:00:11 +0200
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Hi friends,

I have updated my homepage, especially the page about connectivity of
the palmtop to mobile phones
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

I have added information about newer phones like the Siemens S40, SL45
and S45 and the Nokia 6310, supporting new technologies like HSCSD,
GPRS and Bluetooth.

Please report if you have success using one of these (or other) newer
mobile phones with the palmtop!

Thanks
daniel

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Barry wrote:

> Welcome back, Avi.  This place hasn't been the same without you.
> Far too quiet.  :)

I was afraid that it is like this: I am the one who caused all
the noise before! <G>

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HP Staber wrote:
> In my opinion it's up to the user of the software. For me it is

I will forward all the support questions for old and obsoleted
software to you, so I do not have to deal with them anymore
<G> - thank you for volunteering :-¨

I know you do not volunteer really <g>, but I wanted to make
it clear what it is about: It is about having less than
optimally functional software that people get upset about, it
is about trying to figure out which version they use, and
wasting their time, and mine, to download the better software.
It is about many many people who never even try beyond the
first failure when a perfectly good software is under their
noses. The comment you suggest to add _is_ in most packages
anyway, but it never stops people from using the obsolete one
<G>.)

As a beta tester you know well how nearly impossible it is to
work on problems that have been fixed in a more recent
version.

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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 22:29:59 +0200
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Sven.Cronenberg@ruhr-uni-bochum.de schrieb:
>
> Does the progrsamm also support earlier modells like the DC50.
>
> If possible, please make the Programmm publicly available - best would
> be with source.
>
> Sven

I don't know, if it works. I haven't written that program.
The author is Robert Francoeur (robert@tatal.net)

Regards,
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This is slightly off-topic (my apologies) but you guys have always been the
smartest (and fastest) in the world.  My OS (in this instance) is Win95..
I believe a Win or Dos solution will work..

Do you know of software that will rename a directory full of files from
upper to lower case filenames?  I am building my website site using
deltapoint software and everything is good except when the software
converts *.dbf files to *.htm's, the filenames all come up in CAPS and my
isp server is case-sensitive.  I manually rename them and everything is
good, but this is too time-consuming for me as I'm adding and updating
often.  The deltapoint people are apparently out-of-business, no website
now and no replies to my requests for assistance.  BTW I bought this
software (nib-sealed) a few months back from an ebay re-seller, sent in the
reg card and it came back as undeliverable.  The product is good excepting
this one small flaw.  I have many hours invested with this product and
would really rather avoid trashing my site and starting over..  Please help.

Tommy

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On Sun,  1 Jul 2001 20:00:11 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> I have updated my homepage, especially the page about connectivity of
> the palmtop to mobile phones
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx
>
> I have added information about newer phones like the Siemens S40, SL45
> and S45 and the Nokia 6310, supporting new technologies like HSCSD,
> GPRS and Bluetooth.
>
> Please report if you have success using one of these (or other) newer
> mobile phones with the palmtop!

I have both Sl45 and the S40 at work. I could test them out and write
a review.

Regards

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Hello all,

I recently downloaded and toyed with the Mind Mapper software
package offered by D&A Software MM/LX. Within the span of thirty
minutes I had the first part of next week organized for a
really hair raising project. I won't bore you with the
project details; this is not why I am writing this.

I just feel that I should share my feeling on any really
useful software I discover. This one such software package!

I found the interface intuitive and very simple to use for
the level of complexity it offers. What took about 30
minutes would have take me hours with my other project
organizer.

For anyone in need of organizing ones thoughts, projects, etc,
I don't' think you can come up with a better way to do it.
Coupled with the ability to link to other MM files, add notes,
link to spreadsheets by employing PNS, this is going to be
a fun and accurate way to get my jobs organized.

My advice is download it and give it a try. I believe you
will like this program!!

Take care,

William E. Blankenship

P.S. Avi, Andreas, I hope you are reading this!! Keep up
the great work!

P.P.S. -= I would like to point out that I'm not a beta tester
for DASoft and have not other affiliation other than being a
very satisfied customer. =-

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 >Over the past few years I have been up to my wywballs in
 >Palmtops, and still am. I love these machines - there are none ..

Welcome back Avi; it has been quiet without you because we had no target for
our frustrations :) - btw can you test your "e" key - it prints "w",
...unless you gained weight on your fingers?

as to 'loving these machines' - well, don't love them too hard:

Avi keeps his machines under his pillow. One day he squeezed his first love,
a LX95, too hard and it suddenly made a strange beeping noise whenever he
turns it on, so he slips it into his bum-bag and takes it to Daniel in
Burrrlin-town. Daniel is a nice guy who insists he is Canadian and has a
heavy German accent. He asks Avi, "Vat sims to be ze problem?"
Avi says, "I'm not sure, it beeps all the time and my alarm doesn't go
'beep-tock-beep-tock' anymore. Now it just goes 'beep...beep...beep.'"
Worried Danny says, "Mmm-Hm!" and slides under his bed, where he rummages
around a bit. He emerges with his special LX light, turns it on, shines it
directly on the LX95's screen, and says in a menacing voice, "Ve haf vays of
making you tock!"

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Hi Martin,

On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:13:59 -0400, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> I have both Sl45 and the S40 at work. I could test them out and write
> a review.

Ah, you sell mobile phones, right?
So you are the man I need to accomplish my web page! ;-)

Yes, it would be great if you tested them. I'm looking forward to
publish your review.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:49:34 +0200
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Hi Tommy,

On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:50:11 -0700, "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET> wrote:

> Do you know of software that will rename a directory full of files from
> upper to lower case filenames?  I am building my website site using

No.
But I know that some ftp clients (at least for Linux) have the
capability to convert everything to lowercase when you transfer the
files to the web server.

So I'm pretty sure that something like that also exists for Windows.
Maybe a search on simtel.net brings up your solution.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:49:36 +0200
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Hi Nat

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 05:43:24 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> Avi keeps his machines under his pillow. One day he squeezed his first love,
> a LX95, too hard and it suddenly made a strange beeping noise whenever he
> turns it on, so he slips it into his bum-bag and takes it to Daniel in
> Burrrlin-town. Daniel is a nice guy who insists he is Canadian and has a
> heavy German accent. He asks Avi, "Vat sims to be ze problem?"

ROTFL!
Iz mi English reeli zat bat?

> Avi says, "I'm not sure, it beeps all the time and my alarm doesn't go
> 'beep-tock-beep-tock' anymore. Now it just goes 'beep...beep...beep.'"
> Worried Danny says, "Mmm-Hm!" and slides under his bed, where he rummages
> around a bit. He emerges with his special LX light, turns it on, shines it
> directly on the LX95's screen, and says in a menacing voice, "Ve haf vays of
> making you tock!"

What way are you thinking of?
I never wouldnt harm any good old 95LX! ;-)

Thanks for that one - I'll keep it in my Post/LX Archive folder until
one of us (the palmtop or I) leaves this world forever!! :-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:42:11 -0800
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Hi William,

> I recently downloaded and toyed with the Mind Mapper software
> package offered by D&A Software MM/LX. Within the span of thirty
> minutes I had the first part of next week organized for a

ROFL... I'll the story from _my_ side, too!

I get an email on Sunday morning from William that he will try
MM/LX next week after his friends who are coming for a visit,
leave. His fax order also shows up hhmmmm... I promised to
hold off on the order anyway until I hear from him.

Next email in the pile is also from William. He writes he had
about 30 minutes to test MM/LX before his friends showed, and
decided MM/LX is in his "must have" software list!

I was wondering if his snap decisions take a millionth of a
second!? <VBG>

> P.S. Avi, Andreas, I hope you are reading this!! Keep up
> the great work!

I will forward to Andreas, for sure, and the rest of the beta.
I am sure they will appreciate.

Thank you William for the warm compliments. I had a good laugh
about the speed of testing and decision.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 2 Jul 2001 01:35:23 -0800
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Hello Joe:

Joe H. Smith wrote:
> Welcome back. Nice to see your name here again.

Thank for the welcome. I appreciate the help during my absence
(and to you other "message clippers - also thank you!).

> Hope the hook is not sharp! <g>

Not to worry, it'll be a hook!!! :-)

> It is very busy here!

And you thought you'll get a respite for the summer! Hope it
is all turning out good. Thank you for the feedback on MM/LX.
If you want to post it here, go for it!

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Tommy,
>
> On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:50:11 -0700, "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET> wrote:
>
> > Do you know of software that will rename a directory full of files =
from
> > upper to lower case filenames?  I am building my website site using
>
> No.
> But I know that some ftp clients (at least for Linux) have the
> capability to convert everything to lowercase when you transfer the
> files to the web server.

WS_FTP can do it. You can get a free version at
www.ipswitch.com.

  Avi

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Hi Nathalie,

Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>  >Over the past few years I have been up to my wywballs in
>  >Palmtops, and still am. I love these machines - there are none ..
>
> Welcome back Avi; it has been quiet without you because we had no =
target for
> our frustrations :)

I was afraid of that <g>...

> - btw can you test your "e" key - it prints "w",
> ...unless you gained weight on your fingers?

As I told Dr Carder who pointed out the same typo, I tested
and I found that the e key and the w key are simply close to
each other on my keyboard (probably not on your weird AZERTY
one, though! <g,d&r>) And that instead of the kwyboard, I eill
chwck on my fingwrs. I also commended his for his great
wywsignt! Same commendation to you too! But he found another
typo, which you made no comment about. What gives? losing you
wywsignt? Any special reason? Any unusual hairgrowth? <g,d&r>

> as to 'loving these machines' - well, don't love them too hard:

I am very nice and soft to those I love.

> Avi keeps his machines under his pillow. One day he squeezed his first =
love,
> a LX95, too hard and it suddenly made a strange beeping noise whenever =
he

Now, you must be talking about another Avi. I never had a
95LX. My first machine was HP 100LX purchased in August 1993.
I only saw the 95LX in ads in magazines.

> directly on the LX95's screen, and says in a menacing voice, "Ve haf =
vays of
> making you tock!"

Ze jock is still funny, even if old!

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Date:         Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:16:04 +1000
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Hi all

I just read the article on time management by Tad James in PTP online. I
was wondering if anyone had used that DB or if someone who has access to
HPHand on Compuserve could send me a copy?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:44:12 -0400
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> From: T. McCoy İmailto:freeway@UIA.NET¨
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 4:50 PM
>...  My OS (in this
> instance) is Win95..
> I believe a Win or Dos solution will work..
>
> Do you know of software that will rename a directory full of
> files from
> upper to lower case filenames?

My all-time favorite utility for this purpose is ZtreeWin.  It's an
excellent implementation based on the original XtreeGold model of file
management with text mode display.

It is very easy to select any number of files, tag them for operation, and
using the Rename command (<Ctrl><R>), change the case of the entire set.

You can download this shareware from http://www.ztree.com/html/ztreewin.htm.
Highly recommended and well worth the registration price (US$ 30).

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Anybody knows why the HPLX News Server still is not responding to requests
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Hi friends,

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 01:35:16 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> > directly on the LX95's screen, and says in a menacing voice, "Ve haf vays of
> > making you tock!"
>
> Ze jock is still funny, even if old!

Oops, I think i missed something here.
Please enlighten me!
I found Nathalie's posting very funny, even without understanding the
old joke, which I don't know. But if you could please tell me what joke
that is, I can maybe even laugh louder than the first time :-)

GTX
daniel

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Avi,

> ROFL... I'll tell the story......
> I get an email on Sunday morning from William that he will try
> MM/LX next week after his friends who are coming for a visit,
> leave. His fax order also shows up hhmmmm... I promised to
> hold off on the order anyway until I hear from him.

Yep, I did send it in quickly, didn't I. :) I know a good thing
when I see it <sheepish grin>.

> Next email in the pile is also from William. He writes he had
> about 30 minutes to test MM/LX before his friends showed, and
> decided MM/LX is in his "must have" software list!

The basic features that I experimented with on Sunday morning
and after reading your web page explaination of key features,
explained in some detail, convinced me that this software is
exactly what I need.

> I was wondering if his snap decisions take a millionth of a
> second!? <VBG>

No, just about 30 minutes. <VBG> After a little experimentation
and reading the web page I came to a rather prompt decision
<bg>.
With a little more experimentation using the basic features,
I realized that I had created the exact organization map I
needed
for the complex project requiring resources and personnel
coordination. I have been fighting with another project
organization package for three days. MM/LX accomplished what I
needed to pull it all together in an astonishingly short period
of time. The graphical pruning of the branches and the ability
to
append them to other branches greatly simplified things. Now I
have the optimum plan to pull things together for this phase
of the operation. I made the presentation, ahead of schedule,
this morning and won my case. That is all that matters to
me <megalithic grin>!

> I will forward to Andreas, for sure, and the rest of the beta.
> I am sure they will appreciate.
>
> Thank you William for the warm compliments. I had a good laugh
> about the speed of testing and decision.

My hat is off to your entire team. This is a really hot product,
one
that I will definitely use on a daily basis. My recommendation
of this product stands <MLG>.

Thanks for the prompt response with the registration. Now I can
quit the program <VBG>, reconstruct the map and save this to a
file.
I have the exported HTM file to use as a model (a very nice
feature).
By the way, the HTM displays rather nicely with HV.

Thanks Avi, Andreas, the beta testers and all who had a hand in
the
creation of this software.

William E. Blankenship

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > Ze jock is still funny, even if old!
>
> Oops, I think i missed something here.
> Please enlighten me!

It is taken from old old comic depiction of World War II
movines, which satirized Nazi interrogators interrogating Allied
captured soldiers. It has the images of torture, flood lights
in the face, and the threats ("we have ways to make to talk!")
of bodily harm if no cooperation comes forth.

It was used in various comedies in the USA, and perhaps other
places.

It satirizes the German accent, and in this case alludes to
two elements: the light and the threat of worse to come.

> I found Nathalie's posting very funny, even without understanding the
> old joke,

It is sort of funny. and It is old. I thing the oldest satire
I saw using this line was about 1971 (?)...

> which I don't know. But if you could please tell me what joke
> that is,

Any joke that needs to be explained is not a joke and may as
well not be told.

   Avi

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Hi William,

> append them to other branches greatly simplified things. Now I
> have the optimum plan to pull things together for this phase
> of the operation. I made the presentation, ahead of schedule,
> this morning and won my case. That is all that matters to
> me <megalithic grin>!

_THAT_ is the proof! When others can see what you are saying
when presented with a tool - that tool is valuable.

> My hat is off to your entire team. This is a really hot product,
> one
> that I will definitely use on a daily basis. My recommendation
> of this product stands <MLG>.

I think the Beta and Andreas will enjoy the <megalithic grin>
<G> They may all wear a <cheshire cat grin> of their own! :-)

Thanks for the mega-plug here!

  Avi

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> directly on the LX95's screen, and says in a menacing voice, "Ve haf vays of
> making you tock!"


Maybe it was just too hard a weekend but thanks for a great belly laugh!

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Hi Avi,

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:50:36 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> It is taken from old old comic depiction of World War II
> movines, which satirized Nazi interrogators interrogating Allied
> captured soldiers. It has the images of torture, flood lights
> in the face, and the threats ("we have ways to make to talk!")
> of bodily harm if no cooperation comes forth.

Thank you!
I think I as a German should know that joke. ;-)

> > which I don't know. But if you could please tell me what joke
> > that is,
>
> Any joke that needs to be explained is not a joke and may as
> well not be told.

In this case it is different: You need to know these satiric comics to
understand it. I didn't know them, so you told me about these comics.
And thus the joke gets sense to me.

GTX
daniel

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Oops,
By mistake I sent this as a private reply.
It might be of interest for someone else so here it is for the list as =
well ;-)
 Lars

Mon,  2 Jul 2001 09:08:23 +0100 0

.On Sun,  1 Jul 2001 13:50:11 -0700, T. McCoy wrote:

> Do you know of software that will rename a directory full of files from
> upper to lower case filenames?

Yes I do ;-)
It might be overkill, but Windows Commander will take care of your
problem with a press of a button.
Windows Commander is a Windoze clone of Norton Commander which takes
care of all your filehandling needs. I consider it a "must have"

You can find it at    http://wwww.ghisler.com

Among other things it has a "Multi-Rename tool"
- Go to the desired directory
- Mark all files <grey +> <Enter>
- invoke multi-Rename  <ctrl T>
- choose case
   All lowercase / All UPPER / First letter upper / First of each word =
upper
- <Enter> <Enter> <Esc>  and it's done

You can also rename files with Search/Replace or manipulate the names
in almost any way you could think of.

Windows Commander can also synchronize directories and supplies
a "parallel port server for DOS"
So if you have a parallel port card for your 200LX you can use Windows
Commander to synchronize your 200LX and Desktop with an
"Interlink/Laplink parallel cable"

I do it all the time ;-)

Have fun...
Lars

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re:
> so you told me about these comics.
>And thus the joke gets sense to me.

And, there was an old "Carol Burnett Show" skit, w/ Tim Conway and Harvey
Corman (sp?), where they were so satirical they kept making each other fall
down laughing..... Part of the skit, was "we haf vays of making you
remember..... What are those ways....?" And Another one of the guys would
launch in w/ "We have ways of making you remember...." (spelled better this
time for anyone using translation software), and then he "forgets" the ways
to make you remember, etc.

The Carol Burnett Show was wonderful, they let Tim and Harvey "play" and
have fun as actors, and they left in many of the parts when they would make
each other laugh, etc. I don't know if it was on purpose, filmed in front of
a live audience, or what. But I enjoyed the show.

If they do overdubbed reruns in Germany, I strongly recommend the show (that
was only one bit, and they might not replay THAT episode, but they had many
funny ones).

Anyway, enough "off topic" from me.

Happy "4th of July" to those on this side of the pond, who celebrate it (my
British friends used to kid me and say their celebration was on the 5th of
July, to celebrate finally being rid of us <grin>; so you see I understand
the multinational impact of this one!).

Cheers!

--tim

PS. Turned the "FLUFF" line on, only to placate those who filter this stuff
out on purpose, not making a statement that this is totally fluff......

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> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > Hi Tommy,
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:50:11 -0700, "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET> wrote:
> >
> > > Do you know of software that will rename a directory full of files from
> > > upper to lower case filenames?  I am building my website site using
> >
> > No.
> > But I know that some ftp clients (at least for Linux) have the
> > capability to convert everything to lowercase when you transfer the
> > files to the web server.


Check out Lupas Rename - no url at the moment - very powerful renamer.

Freeware

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I don't recall this been discused here.   Read the blurb, and
see that this free Perl script would be a great addition for the
hplx.  BTW, the hplx can read Palm .doc files with the hplx
program Docreader.  The URL:  http://sitescooper.org/

Enjoy!

Domingo

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Sitescooper automatically retrieves the stories from several
news websites, trims off extraneous HTML, and converts them into
formats you can read on your Palm computing device for later
reading on-the-move. It maintains a cache, and will avoid
stories you've already read. It can handle 1-page sites, 1-page
with diffing, 2-level and 3-level sites, and it's very easy to
add a new site to its list.

Even if you don't have a Palm handheld, it's still handy for
simple website-to-text conversion, and offline HTML reading. For
example, here's some screenshots of an iPaq displaying
sitescooper output.

The output formats supported by sitescooper are as follows:

plain text

HTML

Plucker, a free, HTML-based format for Palm handhelds

iSilo, a HTML-based format for the Palm Computing organizers
from DC and Co. Free and shareware versions of the viewer are
available.

DOC format, as used by AportisDoc, TealDoc, CSpotRun, etc.
Again, free and shareware viewers are available.

RichReader, an RTF-based format with formatting.

Any other format that converts from text or HTML, using
the -pipe functionality.

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Is there any HP200LX software to easily translate and exchange vCard and/or
vCalendar information with other platforms, e.g., Palm Pilot?  I have
downloaded IR.EXE and realized from Mr. Garzotto's text file that something
(a lot?) more will be needed to get the data into vCard format.  My visit to
the IMC web site seems to confirm this.  Any suggestions will be
appreciated.

Tillman C. ("Tim") Carroll

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Domingo wrote:
 | BTW, the hplx can read Palm .doc files with the hplx
program Docreader.

Where can Docreader be obtained?

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To all who have responded with suggestions and/or solutions, thank you.
It's right there in Ztree, which I have been using for some time now..
Thanks for the direction, Alan.

Tommy

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> Domingo wrote:
>  | BTW, the hplx can read Palm .doc files with the hplx
> program Docreader.
>
> Where can Docreader be obtained?

http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/docread.zip

Or if you prefer plain text,
http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/doc2txt2.zip

HTH

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Oops....

On Wed, 27 June Al Kind offered:

>In cleaning my ofice I found a cable for an APEX(MobilePlus) MODEM
>to a Motorola MicroTAC Cell Phone. If any can use it, let me know
>and it's yours.

I wrote back and snapped this right up.

I was tired.

I wanted a StarTAC cable. So I read it as "StarTAC", even though he
very clearly wrote "MicroTAC".

I make the same offer. I'll put it in a padded envelope and mail it
off to the first person who *privately* e-mails me asking for it.

By the way, if anyone has a cable for APEX MobilePlus modem to a
Motorola *StarTAC* Cell Phone, I would still be interested in it
myself.

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Welcome Back Avi!

Good to "see" you again.

Regarding a post in another thread about MM/LX:

>> P.S. Avi, Andreas, I hope you are reading this!! Keep up
>> the great work!

>I will forward to Andreas, for sure, and the rest of the beta.
>I am sure they will appreciate.

The single ">'s" are you. Had a question about your using "beta" as a name
for "info." I've only heard that one other time and VERY recently, from
sport climbers talking about the "inside scoop" on how to climb something.
Now I'm confused, is "beta" a climbing term or a computer-guy term..... Or,
are you a computer-guy who climbs?

Or, as yet another "possibility" is this just a regional/cultured use of the
word that I, in my backwater ways, haven't stumbled across until this year?

<<I put this in the "Hi again" thread, as it seems light-hearted enough for
my word-history musings>>.

Welcome back, even if no one knows the history of "beta" <grin>.

--tim

PS. I'm not a Navy guy, but I worked w/ many (U.S. ones) a few years back
and learned ALL sorts of new terms for things (I'm talking about the clean
ones). "Inside scoop" is "scuttlebutt" (that one I knew) or "gouge" (which
I'd never heard) and snack machines are "ge-dunks" because of the sound
items make when you make the selection .... items go "ge-DUNK" on the way to
the place you can reach them......
PPS. This is to the whole list for feedback on the "beta" .... I'm willing
to get answers "off list" to save bandwidth........

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On Tue,  3 Jul 2001 19:29:18 -0500, T.C. Carroll wrote:

> Is there any HP200LX software to easily translate and exchange vCard and/or
> vCalendar information with other platforms, e.g., Palm Pilot?  I have
> downloaded IR.EXE and realized from Mr. Garzotto's text file that something
> (a lot?) more will be needed to get the data into vCard format.  My visit to
> the IMC web site seems to confirm this.  Any suggestions will be
> appreciated.

Hi

Info about how to transfer a Vcard will soon be available at
Http:/daniel.hplx.net

I transfer Vcards from Hplx to Nokia 6210 every day. Vcalender is
something I would like to do, but no yet have been able to.

Regards

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Tim writes:
> >I will forward to Andreas, for sure, and the rest of the beta.
> >I am sure they will appreciate.
>
> The single ">'s" are you. Had a question about your using "beta" as a name
> for "info."

I think Avi was talking about the beta test group--the folks that give
beta versions of software a thorough workout.

Ted

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 >I found Nathalie's posting very funny, even without understanding
 >the old joke, which I don't know. But if you could please tell me
 >what joke that is, I can maybe even laugh louder than the first time :-)

i think it is "laugh harder" :)

 >Any joke that needs to be explained is not a joke and may as well
 >not be told.

i disagree; there are many jokes which offend people, especially racist
ones, and which don't make some people laugh. The "explaining" may actually
be first an apology for having said it in the first palce, and then a
discussion about the background of the joke and why it was told in the first
place. I like any kind of joke because they are educational and tell about
our human condition.

now, the reason i chose Avi and Daniel instead of Jeff and Mack in my joke
is that both have, apart from an LX connection, a German connection, a
sexual history, and a ready-to-reply to me similarity.

i think Avi never met Daniel, and Daniel would be quite annoyed if Avi
connected him to his anti-semitism (Shemitic) experiences (Hitler was long
gone when Daniel was born, and today's skinheads are a joke)

as to the sexual connection ... Celia is "still" not pregnant - neither is
AVI :)

and as to replying to this ... we better refrain - Stefan gets annoyed - too
much bandwidth :)

ps. Burrlin-town referred to Ella Fitzgerald

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On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 05:38:32 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> i disagree; there are many jokes which offend people, especially racist
> ones, and which don't make some people laugh. The "explaining" may actually
> be first an apology for having said it in the first palce, and then a
> discussion about the background of the joke and why it was told in the first
> place. I like any kind of joke because they are educational and tell about
> our human condition.

Correct! At least for less trivial jokes like that one we're talking
about.

> now, the reason i chose Avi and Daniel instead of Jeff and Mack in my joke
> is that both have, apart from an LX connection, a German connection, a
> sexual history, and a ready-to-reply to me similarity.

Don't get Nathalie wrong, folks! The sexual history is NOT in common! ;-)

> i think Avi never met Daniel, and Daniel would be quite annoyed if Avi
> connected him to his anti-semitism (Shemitic) experiences (Hitler was long
> gone when Daniel was born, and today's skinheads are a joke)

We never met, that's correct. But we should, if we have the chance!
Unfortunately I cannot consider today's skinheads as a joke. They are a
serious problem. But that belongs to another newsgroup.

> as to the sexual connection ... Celia is "still" not pregnant - neither is
> AVI :)

I keep you informed. ;-)

> and as to replying to this ... we better refrain - Stefan gets annoyed - too
> much bandwidth :)

Stefan can filter out FLUFF if he wants. Sorry, I HAD to reply ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> i think Avi never met Daniel, and Daniel would be quite
> annoyed if Avi connected him to his anti-semitism (Shemitic)
> experiences (Hitler was long gone when Daniel was born,
> and today's skinheads are a joke)

I don't think the "Ve haff vays off making you talk" has a
Jewish or anti-semitic connection.  During WW2 and after there
were a lot of films which portrayed Germans as comical figures.
Buffoons.  Not to be taken seriously.  As people who tried to be
menacing but just can't quite make it work.

That was probably a moral building technique during the war and
after the war it probably was still funny out of habit.

As late as the 60s and 70s movies were still using that kind of
humor regularly.  The movie "The Great Race" is an example.
Rowan and Martin's "Laugh In" had a lot of jokes based on it.
"Hogan's Heros" was based almost entirely on that kind of humor.

When you break it down there isn't actually anything funny
happening in that joke.  It's the way it's said but mostly it
borrows from that old feeling which is still a small part of
American culture and maybe other culture's as well.  We're just
used to laughing at it.

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I just thought I'd pass along a recent interesting ebay auction for an omnibook 300. This is the closest HP ever came to a 'true'
successor to the 200lx.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1248603848

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Ed Padin wrote:

> I just thought I'd pass along a recent interesting ebay auction for an omnibook 300. This is the closest HP ever came to a 'true'
> successor to the 200lx.

I've tried every device on earth.  Nothing on earth comes within a million miles of the 200lx.
Not the palm, not the pocket pc, nothing.    Certainly not the omnibook.

If you are looking for a successor for the 200lx, don't bother.  There is no such animal.

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Hi,
  I am moving, my Quicken 8 DOS disks are in transit, and I need to =
reload the software on my 200lx before September when I unpack. Below my =
signature line is a message from Intuit identifying Quicken 8 DOS as an =
orphaned product.
   Does anyone know where I can download Quicken 8 DOS, or buy the disks =
inexpensively?

David Goldstrom

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Dear David Goldstrom:

Thank you for contacting Intuit Inc.

We apologize for any inconvenience this issue may cause; however, we are =
unable to process your request.  We no longer support or produce Quicken =
8 for DOS and we do not stock replacement parts for it.

If you need further assistance, or if there is any other way we may be =
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Moira

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KenLondon wrote:

> If you are looking for a successor for the 200lx, don't bother.  There is no such animal.

My advice if you are  looking for  a successor to the 200lx, don't bother looking.
Immediately contact Thaddeus about upgrading what you currnetly have or buy an
upgraded unit.   Next to the 200lx everything out there sucks.

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A very nice free service for stock quotes is www.halebop.com You can =
receive
quotes by SMS or by eMail. The SMS can be transfered to the 200LX via PDU =
and
Post/LX.

 \/
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> but the drive cannot be JMAXed.  That utility always quits with
> different error numbers (almost never the same one #1, #70,
> #239, all having to do with the host drive), and it recommends I

I have been using JAM on my 96MB Sandisk CF card for 2 years. I have a =
50MB
compressed JAM volume and the remaining part can be used by my digital =
camera
or to move files to the laptop. It works OK but I always experience =
problems
with JMAX. My solution is to move the JAM file to my laptop harddisk and =
JMAX
it there, then I move it back to the CF Card. It has been fine wiht me =
till
now.

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Hi friends,

On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 04:53:15 +0100, Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM> wrote:

> A very nice free service for stock quotes is www.halebop.com You can receive
> quotes by SMS or by eMail. The SMS can be transfered to the 200LX via PDU and
> Post/LX.

In Germany, www.stockwatch.de does that job. You receive one email per
day with the stock quotes of the day before.
I don'T know if they also offer SMS.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,
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around a little I found the built in SMS and Fax programs very good. Now =
I want to have them on my 200LX as well. Can anyone advise me how to go =
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>> as to the sexual connection ... Celia is "still" not
pregnant - neither is
>> AVI :)
>
> I keep you informed. ;-)

Interesting that you should mention this.  Last week when I went
to Amazon's site (I'm a regular customer and they always have
something new tailored just to me) they congratulated me on my
recent pregnancy and offered to sell me a number of books and
other items related to this.   Interesting the things computers
can come up with.

I sent some feedback explaining that as a 60 year old man I'm
too old to get pregnant.

They didn't answer directly but there hasn't been any further
mention of my delicate condition on their site.

Barry

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Been trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.
Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI drivers
seem to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.  Ugh.

Any ideas?

Shane




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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232535715-06072001>Been
trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001>Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI
drivers</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232535715-06072001>seem
to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.&nbsp; Ugh.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232535715-06072001>Any
ideas?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001>Shane</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Silicom made a low-power 10mpbs ethernet card that came with both
packet and odi drivers for the 200LX.  The card has a dongle with
10base-T and 10base-2 connectors on it.  Unfortunately, the drivers
don't seem to work with a double-speed 200LX, and Silicom was annoyed
with me for wasting their time when I asked for help in getting the
card to work.  A friend of mine who wrote the pocket quicken app for
the 200lx suggested that it might be possible to fool the driver into
working by changing some resource settings, but I never figured out
how to do it.

Bruce Maggs



Thoms, Shane - SGIG writes:
>
>Been trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.
>Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI drivers
>seem to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.  Ugh.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Shane
>
>
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><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232535715-06072001>Been
>trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
>class=232535715-06072001>Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI
>drivers</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232535715-06072001>seem
>to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.&nbsp; Ugh.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
>class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232535715-06072001>Any
>ideas?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
>class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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I tried a Netgear FA510, it errored on the drive load saying it needed a 386
processor.
No link or activity lights at all.  Then I tried an older SMC 8020.  Its
driver said it
needed an AT machine to run, but it had link and activity to match the hub
they were
connected to.  So this one looks promising if I can get the driver to fly.

Any coders out there?

Shane





Silicom made a low-power 10mpbs ethernet card that came with both
packet and odi drivers for the 200LX.  The card has a dongle with
10base-T and 10base-2 connectors on it.  Unfortunately, the drivers
don't seem to work with a double-speed 200LX, and Silicom was annoyed
with me for wasting their time when I asked for help in getting the
card to work.  A friend of mine who wrote the pocket quicken app for
the 200lx suggested that it might be possible to fool the driver into
working by changing some resource settings, but I never figured out
how to do it.

Bruce Maggs



Thoms, Shane - SGIG writes:
>
>Been trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.
>Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI drivers
>seem to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.  Ugh.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Shane
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001>Been
>trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
>class=232535715-06072001>Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI
>drivers</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001>seem
>to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.&nbsp; Ugh.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
>class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=232535715-06072001>Any
>ideas?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
>class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Folks, this is probably completely dream country,
but would it be possible to create a program to run
on the 200LX and detect the presence of a human via
the IrDa port?

Perhaps I should explain: I spend a lot of time living
in hotels, and use my LX as an alarm clock. Since I
have a bit of a problem waking up, I have it set to go
off several times each morning. This is probably tough
on batteries, not to mention the speaker.

My weird idea was that IF Infra-Red from a human body
could be detected by the IrDa port, the LX could be
placed beside my bed, with the IrDa pointing at me.
In the morning, a program would be invoked which would
check and store the IR level, then sound the alarm.
It would then keep checking the IR level. If there was
no change, i.e. I'm still in bed, sound the alarm
again, and so on until I get up and the IR level drops.

Sounds pretty stupid now I've written it, but is it
feasible?

Cheers, Roger

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But you should be using the one card known to work in the HP 200LX, even
with doublespeed crystals: the Accton EN2216-1.  There are packet drivers
and NDIS drivers as well.  I have used one in my 8MB 2x with NETBEUI and
others have used it for NetWare and TCP/IP as well.

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Hi Roger,

On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 05:46:30 +1200, Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:

> Folks, this is probably completely dream country,
> but would it be possible to create a program to run
> on the 200LX and detect the presence of a human via
> the IrDa port?
> İexplanation stripped¨

I can comment here because I have spent many hours examining the infra
red port electronics during my research about the EMI problem wich
mobile phones.

In general, your question isn't that stupid ;-)

But it is not possible.

Why?
Because all signals which go from the infrared diode to the serial port
of the processor of the LX pass several steps to get quantized and
decoded. The heat a human body sends out is definitely not enough to
trigger the comparator of the IR port which decides if the signal
received is "low" or "high". So for the palmtop there is no difference
at all. Try it yourself: Start Stefan Peichl's "RING.COM", press enter
to go into debug mode, and then move your hands or qanother comparable
heat source in front of the IR port. You will probably not get any
output. If you get, you probably have a mobile phone lying around near
the palmtop ;-)

If you want to see more details of the electronics responsible for that
behaviour, see
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi

It COULD maybe made possible if you changed a few resistors to make the IrDA
port much more sensitive. But then it would probably be totally useless
for any communication purpose. You could then write a software which
simply checks if the I/O port which is connected to the IrDA port is
high or low and with that information control your alarm clock.

But another difficulty could be that if you are covered by a blanket,
the heat rays are blocked and thus your alarm clock may think you are
already awake and showering. ;-)

GTX
daniel

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The card having the most success on the 200lx is the Accton card. There were some instructions on how to do this on www.hplx.net but
it seems that I can never get there any more. Dave Seargent hosts that site as well as www.palmtop.net but he has also not been seen
much lately (on the list, that is).


> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of
> Thoms, Shane - SGIG
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:50 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: Network Adapters
>
>
> I tried a Netgear FA510, it errored on the drive load saying it needed a 386
> processor.
> No link or activity lights at all.  Then I tried an older SMC 8020.  Its
> driver said it
> needed an AT machine to run, but it had link and activity to match the hub
> they were
> connected to.  So this one looks promising if I can get the driver to fly.
>
> Any coders out there?
>
> Shane
>
>
>
>
>
> Silicom made a low-power 10mpbs ethernet card that came with both
> packet and odi drivers for the 200LX.  The card has a dongle with
> 10base-T and 10base-2 connectors on it.  Unfortunately, the drivers
> don't seem to work with a double-speed 200LX, and Silicom was annoyed
> with me for wasting their time when I asked for help in getting the
> card to work.  A friend of mine who wrote the pocket quicken app for
> the 200lx suggested that it might be possible to fool the driver into
> working by changing some resource settings, but I never figured out
> how to do it.
>
> Bruce Maggs
>
>
>
> Thoms, Shane - SGIG writes:
> >
> >Been trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.
> >Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI drivers
> >seem to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.  Ugh.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Shane
> >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> >
> >
> ><META content="MSHTML 5.00.3315.2870" name=GENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> class=232535715-06072001>Been
> >trying to get an Ethernet card to fly in my 200LX.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> >class=232535715-06072001>Everything seems good EXCEPT... all the ODI
> >drivers</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> class=232535715-06072001>seem
> >to want a 386 or "AT" machine to load.&nbsp; Ugh.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> >class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> class=232535715-06072001>Any
> >ideas?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> >class=232535715-06072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
> >class=232535715-06072001>Shane</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> ><HTML><BODY><P><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial"
> size=2></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>
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Maybe you can find some sort of device that will talk to the serial port. There are all sorts of devices pertaining to alarm systems
that may do what you want.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of
> Daniel Hertrich
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: D'oh...
>
>
> Hi Roger,
>
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 05:46:30 +1200, Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM> wrote:
>
> > Folks, this is probably completely dream country,
> > but would it be possible to create a program to run
> > on the 200LX and detect the presence of a human via
> > the IrDa port?
> > İexplanation stripped¨
>
> I can comment here because I have spent many hours examining the infra
> red port electronics during my research about the EMI problem wich
> mobile phones.
>
> In general, your question isn't that stupid ;-)
>
> But it is not possible.
>
> Why?
> Because all signals which go from the infrared diode to the serial port
> of the processor of the LX pass several steps to get quantized and
> decoded. The heat a human body sends out is definitely not enough to
> trigger the comparator of the IR port which decides if the signal
> received is "low" or "high". So for the palmtop there is no difference
> at all. Try it yourself: Start Stefan Peichl's "RING.COM", press enter
> to go into debug mode, and then move your hands or qanother comparable
> heat source in front of the IR port. You will probably not get any
> output. If you get, you probably have a mobile phone lying around near
> the palmtop ;-)
>
> If you want to see more details of the electronics responsible for that
> behaviour, see
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi
>
> It COULD maybe made possible if you changed a few resistors to make the IrDA
> port much more sensitive. But then it would probably be totally useless
> for any communication purpose. You could then write a software which
> simply checks if the I/O port which is connected to the IrDA port is
> high or low and with that information control your alarm clock.
>
> But another difficulty could be that if you are covered by a blanket,
> the heat rays are blocked and thus your alarm clock may think you are
> already awake and showering. ;-)
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> But it is not possible.

A somewhat similar project might be possible; There used to be a program
for the HP48 calculator that could detect if the calculator was being
moved. The HP48 needed to be placed next to an object (I guess one that
could reflect enough IR signals for the HP48 to pick up?), and when it was
moved (and no signals were being reflected) it would beep loudly. Great
security measure, but it used up the batteries too fast :-)

> But another difficulty could be that if you are covered by a blanket,
> the heat rays are blocked and thus your alarm clock may think you are
> already awake and showering. ;-)

Or if you cover yourself in mud like Arnold did in Predator ;-)


bye,

Laust
(well, perhaps covering yourself in mud won't work in real life, only in
Hollywood...)

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Date:         Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:38:17 -0500
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I was wondering where I can get another copy of LXREF.  The one I have
appears to be missing some graphical files - either it didn't have them
when I first downloaded it years ago, or I deleted them in the interest
of saving disk space.  Anyway, the only link I can find to it is on a
website comports.com/hplx which doesn't work.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:15:01 -0800
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Barry wrote:
> I sent some feedback explaining that as a 60 year old man I'm
> too old to get pregnant.
>
> They didn't answer directly but there hasn't been any further
> mention of my delicate condition on their site.

At least they respected your privacy <G>..

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Hello, all.

OK, I get it now.

While I usually get the list in digest format via Netscape, for
some reason I can now see all the HTML in some messages - I can
see how extremely annoying that is.  And, what's worse, in
typical Micro$oft fashion, the HTML coding is TERRIBLE!,
including an extreme amount of unnecessary code that
demonstrates an extreme disregard for bandwidth and efficiency.

My sympathies and apologies to those who must deal with this
crap all the time.

Regards,
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To the lister who requested the print commands for the PN 60.  My humble
apologies, I had a severe crash and lost your address.  Pls email offline=

and I'll send asap.  Sorry!

To Avi:  Welcome back!

tom

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Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
> Perhaps I should explain: I spend a lot of time living
> in hotels, and use my LX as an alarm clock. Since I
> have a bit of a problem waking up, I have it set to go
> off several times each morning. This is probably tough
> on batteries, not to mention the speaker.

How about a louder alarm?  Would the hplx serial port be able to
power a Sonalert?  If yes then how could you trigger the serial
port from a appointment alarm?

Just an idea,
Cheers... Russ

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Sat,  7 Jul 2001 21:26:49 -0500 (EST)

How about HPALARM? (available on SUPER)

It is the loudest alarm I've heard for the LX!

Cheers...AJKind

01h12m40s ago ...


> Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
> > Perhaps I should explain: I spend a lot of time living
> > in hotels, and use my LX as an alarm clock. Since I
> > have a bit of a problem waking up...
>
>On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:
> How about a louder alarm?  Would the hplx serial port be able to
> power a Sonalert?  If yes then how could you trigger the serial
> port from a appointment alarm?
>
> Just an idea,
> Cheers... Russ
>
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A software alarm would still be limited by the LX's piezo
speaker and its ability to drive it.  A Sonalert(sp?) is a
separate hardware beeper that can be VERY load (if the LX can
source enough current to drive it).  It's been a while since
I've seen a Sonalert but I remember them being about the size of
a walnut or maybe a bit bigger.  They only require a two wire
connection so interfacing one should be easy (if possible at
all).  Anyone have any more recent experience with one?

Cheers... Russ

Al Kind wrote:
> How about HPALARM? (available on SUPER)
> It is the loudest alarm I've heard for the LX!
>
> >On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:
> > How about a louder alarm?  Would the hplx serial port be able to
> > power a Sonalert?  If yes then how could you trigger the serial
> > port from a appointment alarm?

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Have you tried running JMAX on the card from your laptop?  Did
you experience the same problems?

Domingo

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> but the drive cannot be JMAXed.  That utility always quits
with
> different error numbers (almost never the same one #1, #70,
> #239, all having to do with the host drive), and it recommends
I

I have been using JAM on my 96MB Sandisk CF card for 2 years. I
have a 50MB
compressed JAM volume and the remaining part can be used by my
digital camera
or to move files to the laptop. It works OK but I always
experience problems
with JMAX. My solution is to move the JAM file to my laptop
harddisk and JMAX
it there, then I move it back to the CF Card. It has been fine
wiht me till
now.

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<disengage bandwidth conservation mode >

Exactly when did "duh" become "d'oh?" Could this be part of a plot by
Nathalie to stealthily and by degrees convert English into a subset of
French, perhaps? Inquiring minds and all that.

<resume bandwidth conservation mode>

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re. Amazon.com
 >they congratulated me on my recent pregnancy and offered to sell
 >me a number of books and other items related to this....I
 >sent some feedback explaining that as a 60 year old man I'm too
 >old to get pregnant.

it is indeed amasing how much information is available to any off-the-mill
private investigator, not to mention IRS or CIA, just via the net. The
danger is when they get it wrong and your credit rating is destroyed etc.

as to pregnancy i enjoy every anouncement here of new life, be it Ed Padin
or Loic Satour, or Daniel+Celia. I can offer to give a second opinion on any
infant diseases - i just passed my exam as a standard ER and Pediatric
Emergency Specialist.

Nathalie

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Regarding the popular exclamation "D'oh!", watch "The Simpsons"
for a while and you'll understand it.

It's Homer Simpson's exclamation, sometimes accompanied by a
slap to the forehead, of personal realization of a mistake.  For
instance, it would be properly used when you realize that you
accidentally put bubble bath instead of chlorine in your
swimming pool! Which would also be known as "doing a 'Homer'".

Enjoy!

Richard Smith
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Hi friends,

On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 14:49:28 +0200, Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:

> A somewhat similar project might be possible; There used to be a program
> for the HP48 calculator that could detect if the calculator was being
> moved. The HP48 needed to be placed next to an object (I guess one that
> could reflect enough IR signals for the HP48 to pick up?), and when it was
> moved (and no signals were being reflected) it would beep loudly. Great
> security measure, but it used up the batteries too fast :-)

An IR diode is very power hungry. So if it has to send all the time in
order to detect, if the _reflection_ changes, it is very
battery-intensive. But that could really be a possibility. Maybe one
could build an external IR sending device which sends enough IR to
trigger the palmtop's receiver high, even by reflection.
But in that case it could be react to every movement of the sleeping
person and thus not be very reliable.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:29:38 +0200
Reply-To:     Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Most Unusual Place?
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This is written onboard the vikingship "Mjoesen Lange" outside Stavern
in Norway. It is a great day without a cloud and more to the point it
is blowing just enough for a nice sail up the coast. It is a small
vikingship of about 35 feet with oars for 10 rowers and a square sail
of 17 sq.meters.

This message has been composed on a standard 4Mb 200LX with a 48 Mb
storagecard. I am using IR to connect to my Ericsson R320s and it works
very good. I am ofcourse using WWW/LX as the communication suite.


Ebbe Horneman, POBox 2055, N-2606 Lillehammer, Norway
<ebbeh@online.no
Tel:+47 95788004 FAX:+47 85 02 36 63
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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:53:58 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 01:14:09 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> How about a louder alarm?  Would the hplx serial port be able to
> power a Sonalert?

The serial port provides about 6V idle voltage and 10mA short-circuit
current.

> If yes then how could you trigger the serial
> port from a appointment alarm?

Not a problem: Use a program which switches the serial port (setcom1 by
stefan peichl, or the built-in serctl) and trigger it by an alarm lile
|c:\bin\setcom1 ...

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:21:27 +0800
Reply-To:     Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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From:         Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
Subject:      OT: Help on eproms
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I apologize for the off topic post but the HPLX community is quite
resourceful even for palmtop unrelated subjects.  I have a couple of eproms
from a shop machine than need to be copied (for my backup purpose).  The
copying service can be done down here but finding the exact Texas
Instrument eprom is quite elusive.  Anyone have any ideas how I can
approach this problem?  Anyone know of any online / mailorder sites where I
can purchase these blank eproms?  Preferably somewhere in the US.  I may be
visiting an uncle in the US this September and can have it delivered to my
Uncle's house.

TIA,
Oliver Chua

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:28:47 -0500
Reply-To:     Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: bmp2jpg?
Comments: To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:30:46 +0200 Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
>I'm searching for a little uti, which can transform under
>w31 a *.bmp into a *.jpg. google a.s.o. were without
>success.

Paint Shop Pro version 3 ran under Win3.1, and did all the graphics
conversions. You can download it from
ftp://ftp.jasc.com/pub/psp311.exe .

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:31:02 -0500
Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> as to pregnancy i enjoy every anouncement
> here of new life, be it Ed Padin or Loic Satour,
> or Daniel+Celia. I can offer to give a second
> opinion on any infant diseases - i just passed
> my exam as a standard ER and Pediatric
> Emergency Specialist.

So you're convinced that Amazon is correct?

This is discouraging.  How will I ever tell my friends?

As to enjoying anouncments of new life, that's quite natural but
in today's greatly overpopulated world, doesn't it worry you?

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:32:58 +0200
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: OT: Help on eproms
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Oliver Chua wrote:

> I apologize for the off topic post but the HPLX community is quite
> resourceful even for palmtop unrelated subjects.  I have a couple of eproms
> from a shop machine than need to be copied (for my backup purpose).  The
> copying service can be done down here but finding the exact Texas
> Instrument eprom is quite elusive.  Anyone have any ideas how I can

It would probably help if you told us what those EPROMS were (size, speed,
etc.). Your description is a bit vague...


bye,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:25:46 +0000
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From:         Larry Castor <castorlw@YAHOO.COM>
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All,
 Using a 200lx with wwwlx3.0, I am unable to connect to my new AT&T ISP =
using the local number in Amarillo, TX.  I have no difficulties with the =
800 number and also, successfully used the local number in Tucson recently=
.
 I've tried both with my EXP336 thinfax and a Robotics Sportster external =
modem.  The attempt always fails with a "unable to make PPP connection". =
 Any suggestions?

TIA
Larry

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:36:22 -0700
Reply-To:     fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG
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From:         Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
Subject:      Re: OT: Help on eproms
In-Reply-To:  Oliver Chua's message of "Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:21:27 +0800"
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Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET> wrote:
> copying service can be done down here but finding the exact Texas
> Instrument eprom is quite elusive.  Anyone have any ideas how I can
> approach this problem?  Anyone know of any online / mailorder sites where I
> can purchase these blank eproms?  Preferably somewhere in the US.  I may be

Digikey?  Jameco?  It would help to know what part you're looking for,
but try the obvious thing with "http://www.", one of those names, and
".com".

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:57:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Alfred Lee <alfred1520@YAHOO.COM>
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Greeting,

I have used cjpeg.exe and djpeg.exe that came with the MPEG code
base on the LX.  I don't have the exact location right now.  I can dig
it out if you can't find it on the net.

Best Regards,
Alfred

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: bmp2jpg?


>On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:30:46 +0200 Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
>>I'm searching for a little uti, which can transform under
>>w31 a *.bmp into a *.jpg. google a.s.o. were without
>>success.
>
>Paint Shop Pro version 3 ran under Win3.1, and did all the graphics
>conversions. You can download it from
>ftp://ftp.jasc.com/pub/psp311.exe .
>
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>
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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 22:57:08 +0200
Reply-To:     Juergen Korthof <info@EU-VORTEILE.DE>
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From:         Juergen Korthof <info@EU-VORTEILE.DE>
Subject:      AW: bmp2jpg?
Comments: To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de
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> I'm searching for a little uti, which can transform under
> w31 a *.bmp into a *.jpg. google a.s.o. were without
> success.
>                 K@Rdt

Hi Klaus,

I like bmp2jpg from http://www.tssoftware.de.vu/

Give it a try.

CU
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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 22:37:24 +0000
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All,
  Nevermind my previous message.  After more attempts, I decided to =
reenter all of my setup data and now it works. I must have had the =
password set up wrong.

Larry

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:49:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Stanley Dobrowski <stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET>
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET>
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Ebbe Horneman wrote:

> This is written onboard the vikingship "Mjoesen Lange" outside Stavern in
Norway

Yes, Ebbe, that qualifies as a Message from an Unusual Place!!!  Thank you
for sending it to us.  I have forwarded it to the unofficial keeper of
MUP's, Linda.

Stan

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:06:50 -0800
Reply-To:     sponsor@FTEL.NET
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From:         Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Larry Castor wrote:
> All,
>  Using a 200lx with wwwlx3.0, I am unable to connect to my new AT&T ISP =
using the local number in Amarillo, TX.  I have no difficulties with the
> 800 number and also, successfully used the local number in Tucson =
recently.
>  I've tried both with my EXP336 thinfax and a Robotics Sportster =
external modem.  The attempt always fails with a "unable to make PPP =
connection".
>  Any suggestions?

May I suggest that you:

1. Check on the local number. Is it really AT&T number?

2. Check on the setup. Login and password in the WWWSETUP.

Since you can access with the 800 number, then you can compare
the setup between the two, and make the local number acees
identical.

I have an ISP that now has two networks: In one I just enter
my login and password, and I am in. The other network requires
a DIFFERENT login: Specifically, that I add "@ISPXXX" right
after the login. Password is the same.

They use someone else's phone numbers to extend their own
network - so you have to tell the owner of that network that
you are a customer of ISPXXX. Then they take the login and
password and connect you with ISPXXX. If that connection
takes, you are connected through.

I do not know that AT&T does that for local numbers in your
area. But it is worth checking with AT&T if the login should
have some format different than what you expect it to be.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:05:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Morris <cdxmjr@NYCAP.RR.COM>
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From:         Morris <cdxmjr@NYCAP.RR.COM>
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Hello everyone, I'm a newcomer.  I suppose this issue doesn't really affect
me, just a little curious.  Is it possible to upgrade the version of DOS?
Also if so, or even if not so, is there some way to burn it into ROM or
something of that nature or put it in a flash pcmcia card and have the
machine boot off that?  Thanks!

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:22:21 -0500
Reply-To:     Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Hi All,

I've just posted version 3 of the OL2LX Outlook to LX converter. The
most significant thing this one adds is the ability to create LX ADB
(appointment) files taken from data in Outlook's Calendar and Tasks
folders. There are a couple of issues with recurring items being
different in Outlook, as well as shortcomings in Outlook, so read the
ReadMe.txt file.

Like the last version, this one allows access to password-protected LX
files.

A couple of bug fixes:
* It should now correctly convert extended characters between the LX
and Windows environments, for both PDB/GDB and ADB files.

* When converting into Outlook's Contacts, it should correctly modify
existing contacts instead of adding new ones if that's what you
specify.

Since creating ADB files is a new thing, I've made it so that it won't
modify an existing ADB file with new data, but will always create a
whole file from Outlook data. Be careful - the "destination" file you
create will be overwritten if it already exists.

You can download it from http://members.aol.com/freewhl44/lxgames.html

As always, you can direct feedback to me at this e-mail address.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:40:33 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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hi,

is it possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop?
I got my bus timetables in pdf format, but how can I view them.

cheers,
Werner


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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:46:40 +0800
Reply-To:     Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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At 10:40 AM 7/9/01 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
 >hi,
 >
 >is it possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop?
 >I got my bus timetables in pdf format, but how can I view them.
 >

Hi, I do not think that it is possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop.

However there is an alternative.

Just send your pdf-file as an attachment to either address below, and it
will be converted and sent back to you accordingly, either as text or html,
within a matter of minutes.

PDF-text converter <pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu>

PDF-html converter <pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu>


You can then convert your bus timetable into a database.  :-)

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:48:22 +0200
Reply-To:     Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Hi there, D&A (Avi?),

after reading the euphoric comments concerning MindMap in the Mailing-List,
I ordered the Program last week, July, 4th, via Fax-Form. (Because of
Credit-Card-Data, Fax-Nr.: +1-310 388-5400). Until now I got nothing, no
answer, no call, no mail, no nothing. I am really dissapointed about that
behaviour, that's not smart business, especially if SW gets delivered via
Mail.

Regards, Axel
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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:00:00 -0400
Reply-To:     "Corso, Tony" <tcorso@SITHE.COM>
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(D)uh . . . . "D'oh" is the reflexive conjugation of "Duh"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Mittell İmailto:
>
 > Exactly when did "duh" become "d'oh?"

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RE: FLUFF: D'oh... (sorry!)It became doh when Homer Simpson was born. =
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Axel, Avi and others

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:48:22 +0200, Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE> wrote:

> after reading the euphoric comments concerning MindMap in the Mailing-List,
> I ordered the Program last week, July, 4th, via Fax-Form. (Because of
> Credit-Card-Data, Fax-Nr.: +1-310 388-5400). Until now I got nothing, no
> answer, no call, no mail, no nothing. I am really dissapointed about that
> behaviour, that's not smart business, especially if SW gets delivered via
> Mail.

I have also ordered (on July 3rd) and have only got the response that
the order has been received by Avi. Nothing more by now.

I think maybe Avi will wait until he gets the money from our credit
card accounts, which could take a little while from Germany to USA.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:23:29 -0400
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Nathalie's Joke
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> as to pregnancy i enjoy every anouncement here of new life, be it Ed Padin
> or Loic Satour, or Daniel+Celia. I can offer to give a second opinion on any
> infant diseases - i just passed my exam as a standard ER and Pediatric
> Emergency Specialist.
>
> Nathalie

Thanks for the offer of help on my newest palmtop (she usually requires two palms nowadays).

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dont forget the 4th is a holiday here so perhaps Avi took a couple days off

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:59:14 +0100
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Axel,

> after reading the euphoric comments concerning MindMap in the Mailing-Li=
st,
> I ordered the Program last week, July, 4th, via Fax-Form. (Because of
> Credit-Card-Data, Fax-Nr.: +1-310 388-5400). Until now I got nothing, =
no
> answer, no call, no mail, no nothing. I am really dissapointed about =
that
> behaviour, that's not smart business, especially if SW gets delivered =
via
> Mail.

no need for this reaction. There are lots of possibilities in the chosen
order process to get screwed up. If you send a friendly e-mail to Avi
he will respond - for sure. After all it's his business.

I have chosen the e-mail order process and it was turned around within
a couple of hours (when I was in bed sleeping).

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:11:34 -0800
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Hello Axel:

Sorry you had a problem with the order. Our fax service did
not function properly all of last week and delivered only 2
faxes all week!

The Fax servie provider finally resolved their problems on
Saturday sometime, and a flood of faxes came in Saturday and
Sunday. They are being processed as I write this!

I checked, and your order is among the faxes too! It actually
arrived Jul 4 at 16:22, but not to us until some time Saturday
or Sunday.

There are two problems with your order:

1. Expiration date is unclear, please email it to us at any of
emails below or post here if you prefer. (Just the expiration
date, please!)

   register@dasoft.com
   register@alwaysafe.com
   info@dasoft.com
   support@dasoft.com


2. You mentioned in your post about MAIL delivery of SW. FYI,
we DO NOT deliver SW by MAIL (exception: Magnify/LX). ALL OUR
SW is delivered by email, or download / registration.

I will hold your order because of expiration date, but kindly
also tell us if you want mail delivery or via email. If by
mail, I will have to add additional costs for shipping and
handling.

(BTW, The main reason we started delivery by email and
downloads were the HUGE LOUD SCREAMS of our German customers,
who sometimes had to pay customs fees as high as TWO TIMES of
the price of the SW! If we send this order to you via MAIL -
you will likely be subject to the such fees!)

I am truly sorry with your disappointment with our service. If
I had the ability to peek into the files of the fax provider
and find your order and email address, I would have told you
(but then I'd already have the order!<G>) But even the
provider had no such access - they were really down! Hard!

As you understand, there was no way to guess you sent an
order. However, in the future, you may find it easier to email
to us and ask (see email addresses above). It beats getting
frustrated not knowing.

Last point: If you worry about credit cards going through
email, I am told by the experts that fax is not much safer.
That is why we utilize a fax service, hopefully they have
better security than I can provide on regular land lines.

To enhance the process, we set up a SECOND email address on
another ISP (register@alwaysafe.com). You may email the order
in the future, with half the credit card number on the form,
and the other half (with your name please!) to the other email
address. This makes it awfully hard for hackers to spy on, and
intercept a working credit card number. I am told by experts
that this method is very good.

For the convenience of our customers, I added this information
to the main page of www.dasoft.com.


All the best!

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com


Axel Klag wrote:
> Hi there, D&A (Avi?),
>
> after reading the euphoric comments concerning MindMap in the Mailing-Li=
st,
> I ordered the Program last week, July, 4th, via Fax-Form. (Because of
> Credit-Card-Data, Fax-Nr.: +1-310 388-5400). Until now I got nothing, =
no
> answer, no call, no mail, no nothing. I am really dissapointed about =
that
> behaviour, that's not smart business, especially if SW gets delivered =
via
> Mail.
>
> Regards, Axel
> ************************************************************************=
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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:19:56 -0400
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I think "D'oh" a little different than "Duh". Both involve a bit of self depracation. "Duh" can generally be equivalent to the
statement "Oh, I feel silly. I should have known that". whereas "D'oh" can be like the statement "Dammit! I just made a fool of
myself in front of everyone. I'm such an idiot!" followed by a heavy handed slap to thr forehead. I guess you can say that "D'oh" is
a more agressive form of "Duh".


>(D)uh . . . . "D'oh" is the reflexive conjugation of "Duh"

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:07:46 -0600
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I'm a firm believer in packing check-lists. Having traveled for business
and now with a kid, it is essential that I remember what to pack AND what
not to pack. The 200LX is great for this.

I used to keep a entry in NoteTaker with a long list in the note section.
This was okay, but it was hard to see everything and meant a lot of
scrolling around. Now I think I've hit on a better solution.

I've copied my checklist out of NoteTaker and into a text file I can open
in PALEdit. From there I set up each suitcase/object I need to pack as a
level 1 heading. Under each heading, using +(, I list what should be
packed. For example:

+(Fanny Pack
   -sunglasses
   -wallet
   -money
+(Suitcase
   -swim suit
   -socks
   +(Kit Bag
     -toothbrush
     -comb
     -aspirin

After a thing is packed, I change the "-" to a "+". Then I press CTRL+C,
enter a "-", tab to "Using Records," use the default "+(" as the record
delimiter, and press "OK." (This should probably be a macro.)

Now only the things that haven't been packed show. The entries that have a
"+" are "hidden" and I can see at a glance what I still need to pack.

This still isn't perfect. If I expand a suitcase that has items checked
off, those items are no longer hidden and I have to re-enter outline mode
to refresh the view.

I also tried importing the file into MM/LX and it worked great. Mind Map
also has a "check-off" feature that allows you to do the same thing and, of
course, has an even more visual display.

Anyone else have a way of keeping simple checklists?

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:15:42 +0000
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Morris wrote:
> Hello everyone, I'm a newcomer.  I suppose this issue doesn't really affect
> me, just a little curious.  Is it possible to upgrade the version of DOS?
> Also if so, or even if not so, is there some way to burn it into ROM or
> something of that nature or put it in a flash pcmcia card and have the
> machine boot off that?  Thanks!

No, the LX's DOS 5 is in ROM and it can't be changed.  Also you
can't boot another OS via the pcmcia card.

However, I've never seen much advantage to DOS releases after 5.
They might offer some additional utilities but they don't offer
any basic functions that don't exist in 5.

Is there something in particular that you're looking for?

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I think maybe Avi will wait until he gets the money from our credit
> card accounts, which could take a little while from Germany to USA.

By now you know the reason. See my post to Axel.

I do not wait for credit cards to clear, this is only with
checks. The credit card process isdual: Send the request to
the card issuing bank for authorization. If ok, then this
transaction moves money from the bank to the credit card
clearing company. The second process (I do them back to back)
is called settlement, when I claim the money at the clearing
company. They then take three days (usually 2-3) to credit my
account at my bank.

As soon as the settlement is done, I send the emails. That is
a requirement by the credit card companies, that the merchant
does not sit on the customer's money, but send the good
immediately when paid. I have a single process: Enter the
order, check it, create a credit card processing file (my
transaction file), call the credit card company, and submit
the file - they authorize the transactions one by one (from my
machine to them, they check again, send an inquiry to the
issuing bank, get ok or negative (with a reason why not), and
the money is transferred to them, and then they repeat - all
this takes about 3-5 seconds, regardless where the issuing
bank is - amazingly fast!) Then I get a report of any errors,
status, or declines.

The second step is another call to credit card company -
another computer, to settle. Same transaction file (only the
ok transactions) go to them, and they process my "claim" to
the funds, and I get a report on the settlemnts. (Settlements
take about 3 seconds each).

I markd then the database as paid (or not, in some cases). I
print my own report from the Palmtop.

Then I do the email part, which includes generating the keys,
the emails, and the letters. I use the GDB for much of that
process. Then I email the stuff.

2-3 days later the money shows up in the bank account. Once
the transaction is authorized (first part) it means that your
bank think you have the money in the account, takes it out (or
in some cases, posts a transaction for nightly runs and
suspends that amount of money from your account i.e. xxxxx is
the balance, but xxxxx-79 is available!) and that means the
transaction is successful, and I can send the stuff. The
second process is needed to send the money to the bank account.

In some cases I have only authorized the payments (which I can
do over the phone), sent the stuff out, and settled much much
later.

Oh, well, enough of this business education <G>...

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Donald Puscher wrote:
> I'm a firm believer in packing check-lists. Having traveled for business

   ...

> I also tried importing the file into MM/LX and it worked great. Mind =
Map
> also has a "check-off" feature that allows you to do the same thing =
and, of
> course, has an even more visual display.

Hmmm... Another nice creative use for MM/LX...

A customer suggested using MM/LX as a menu to run programs!

I keep simple lists in a PE text file. Shopping list for
example. It gets modified before I go to the store each time,
items added or subtracted.

Packing lists I used to keep in a text file, but I think I'll
try MM/LX now (thanks to you! <g>) because I have a 10 day
trip coming up in mid-July. I'll put items in categories, and
the children of the categories items will be the individual
items to take. I like this! Thank you.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:14:16 -0400
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PLS, forgive the OT but I know there are a lot of ppl on this list that are knowledage about this. I'm looking for a digital camera
that has megapix res. and supports type-II PCMCIA memory cards (no compact flash). I already have the memory cards and want to use
them instead of trade/sell. All I need is model numbers so I can research.
thanks.

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> PLS, forgive the OT but I know there are a lot of ppl on this list that are knowledage about this. I'm looking for a digital camera
> that has megapix res. and supports type-II PCMCIA memory cards (no compact flash). I already have the memory cards and want to use
> them instead of trade/sell. All I need is model numbers so I can research.
> thanks.

Can't give you any model numbers, but try http://www.steves-digicams.com
This site has a wealth of information as well as reviews of many of the
major digital cameras.

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Laust, Larry and Frank,

Thank you for the reply.  The texas instruments eproms I'm looking for are:

tms2564jl-45
tms2564-35jl
tms2564jl
tms 27128jl-25

I am not very familiar with ICs but found out several things.  Feel free to
butt-in if I'm wrong somewhere.

1.  The first 3 items are identical except they run in different speeds.  I
assume the speed is important (I found all three types of eprom on one
PCBoard) and hence all three, I surmise, are not interchangeable.

2. For the last item, I found something similar but not identical.  I found
someone selling 27c128jl-25 (with the letter c added).  I can't remember on
top of my head if its unbranded or a brand I'm just not familiar.  I am
told this stands for cmos and should be compatible but costs more than the
original.  Is this true?

I will check out Digikeys and Jameco.  Guys, maybe its better if we take
this off list and continue thru private email to lessen the noise ratio.
TIA and to everyone for their patience.  Oliver

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Date:         Sat, 7 Jul 2001 18:28:37 -0700
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> PLS, forgive the OT but I know there are a lot of ppl on this list
> that are knowledage about this. I'm looking for a digital camera that
> has megapix res. and supports type-II PCMCIA memory cards (no compact
> flash). I already have the memory cards and want to use them instead
> of trade/sell. All I need is model numbers so I can research. thanks.

I think you're going to have a problem with the PCMCIA form factor.
 Not too many digicams that I know of supports that, or at least it's
not common anymore.

This is my favorite side-by-side camera comparison site,

        http://photo.askey.net/

It also has a "Buying Guide" feature that lets you specify search
criteria for the camera (ie, PCMCIA storage), but it only turned up
15 large cameras (most quite expensive).

At one time, Ricoh made a smaller (and cheaper) camera that
used PCMCIA.  eBay has one listed (RDC-2):

item #1252718748

but it's only 1/2 megapixel.  You might want to look at other Ricoh
models on eBay.

- Longden

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Folks, several hours ago we closed the entire backlog of
orders, and everything went out, including Daniel Hertrich's.

Exception: Axel Klag's order. Unfortunately, I did not receive
a reply from him about the unreadable credit card expiration
date and whether he really wishes to have the SW sent via Mail
as he seemed to imply in his message.

I also sent him a private email, since I am not sure how he
wants to communicate with us - here or by private email.

All the best.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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I just returned from China, coordinating there a very
large buyout (>$500m). The staff of about 100 included
lawyers (as usual), beancounter (lots of them!),
techies, bankers, and politicians (we called them
"consultants" <g>)

There was hardly time: 10 days for the due dilligence
work is almost impossible. We used the next 5 days,
earmarked for negotiations to do more due dilligence,
feeding the info to my palmtop - summarising it as
items in MM/LX.

The "layout of the deal" on the MM/LX screen indicated
four problem areas, one a potential financial
disaster. But everyting was fixed! NOTHING could have
done it as easily as as MM/LX - I assure you.

I already have the next project laid out on the
palmtop, in MM/LX, two weeks from now in Singapore.

I know some posted here whining that they did not get
the license back in 20 seconds. Well, it is worth the
wait. To me it was worth about 84,000 times the price
- you figure out the fee! <G>...

Last week July 4th was a holiday in the USA. I also
know that Avi's fax service was dead! I had to wake
him up three times in the middle of the night to pick
his brains and help us assess some technologies,
something he knows to do well. (Sorry, Avi - for the
wakeup calls - you are a very nice guy in the middle
of the night! :-) ... My secretary sends greetings and
apologies!)

   Joe S.

--- Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE> wrote:
> Hi there, D&A (Avi?),
>
> after reading the euphoric comments concerning
> MindMap in the Mailing-List,
> I ordered the Program last week, July, 4th, via



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hi Teo,

thank you for the hint.
I tried it but only get a very long errormessage,

like this:

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Out of memory!
Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
line 16.
END failed--cleanup aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-
pdf2html.pl line 119.
Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
line 119. END
failed--cleanup aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
line 5.
Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
line 5. END
failed--cleanup aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
line 16.
Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
line 16. BEGIN
failed--compilation aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-
pdf2html.pl line 12.
554 "|/home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl"... unknown mailer
error 11

is this my fault, or a temporary problem with the server?

thanks,
Werner


on 9 Jul 2001, at 17:46 Teo Soon Bock wrote about:
Re: pdf on the Palmtop

> At 10:40 AM 7/9/01 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>  >hi,
>  >
>  >is it possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop?
>  >I got my bus timetables in pdf format, but how can I view them.
>  >
>
> Hi, I do not think that it is possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop.
>
> However there is an alternative.
>
> Just send your pdf-file as an attachment to either address below, and it
> will be converted and sent back to you accordingly, either as text or html,
> within a matter of minutes.
>
> PDF-text converter <pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu>
>
> PDF-html converter <pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu>
>
>
> You can then convert your bus timetable into a database.  :-)
>



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Test

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Date:         Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:58:48 +0800
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At 10:24 AM 7/10/01 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
 >hi Teo,
 >
 >thank you for the hint.
 >I tried it but only get a very long errormessage,
 >

If you can let us know the URL of the pdf-file, we can download and try the
conversion, to see whether we are getting the same error as you.


 >like this:
 >
 >   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
 >Out of memory!
 >Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
 >line 16.
 >END failed--cleanup aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-
 >pdf2html.pl line 119.
 >Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
 >line 119. END
 >failed--cleanup aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
 >line 5.
 >Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
 >line 5. END
 >failed--cleanup aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
 >line 16.
 >Callback called exit at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl
 >line 16. BEGIN
 >failed--compilation aborted at /home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-
 >pdf2html.pl line 12.
 >554 "|/home/raman/adobe/perl/pdf2txt/mime-pdf2html.pl"... unknown mailer
 >error 11
 >
 >is this my fault, or a temporary problem with the server?
 >
 >thanks,
 >Werner
 >
 >
 >on 9 Jul 2001, at 17:46 Teo Soon Bock wrote about:
 >Re: pdf on the Palmtop
 >
 >> At 10:40 AM 7/9/01 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
 >>  >hi,
 >>  >
 >>  >is it possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop?
 >>  >I got my bus timetables in pdf format, but how can I view them.
 >>  >
 >>
 >> Hi, I do not think that it is possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop.
 >>
 >> However there is an alternative.
 >>
 >> Just send your pdf-file as an attachment to either address below, and it
 >> will be converted and sent back to you accordingly, either as text or html,
 >> within a matter of minutes.
 >>
 >> PDF-text converter <pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu>
 >>
 >> PDF-html converter <pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu>
 >>
 >>
 >> You can then convert your bus timetable into a database.  :-)
 >>

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I'm surprised no one has yet noted that Homer Simpson's "doh" just made it
into the Oxford English Dictionary. See for example
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/abc/20010614/en/dictionary010614_1.html.

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From: Ed Padin İmailto:ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM¨
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:20 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: FLUFF: D'oh... (sorry!)


I think "D'oh" a little different than "Duh". Both involve a bit of self
depracation. "Duh" can generally be equivalent to the
statement "Oh, I feel silly. I should have known that". whereas "D'oh" can
be like the statement "Dammit! I just made a fool of
myself in front of everyone. I'm such an idiot!" followed by a heavy handed
slap to thr forehead. I guess you can say that "D'oh" is
a more agressive form of "Duh".


>(D)uh . . . . "D'oh" is the reflexive conjugation of "Duh"

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> >is it possible to view a pdf-file on the palmtop?
> >I got my bus timetables in pdf format, but how can I view them.
> >

> Just send your pdf-file as an attachment to either address below, and it
> will be converted and sent back to you accordingly, either as text or
html,
> within a matter of minutes.
>
> PDF-text converter <pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu>
>
> PDF-html converter <pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu>

Or you can open it in Acrobat on your desktop, capture a screenshot to your
clipboard (I think on a Windows box you press PrtScrn), then trim it neatly
in a graphics program before saving the image to .pcx or some other format.
Then you can view it in LXPic on your palmtop.

It's easier than it sounds.

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I made up a travel check list in a database format which I posted on the
Super site (http://www.palmtop.net/super.html). Search for Travel Database.

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   Domingo wrote:
> Have you tried running JMAX on the card from your laptop?  Did
> you experience the same problems?

I don't recall if I tried as I generally prefer to wear my harddisk =
rather
than my flash disk for write intensive tasks. I will try and report.

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You wonderful man!  Thanks so much you have given me back at least an hour
every day trying to synch these things manually.

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Don,

> I've copied my checklist out of NoteTaker and into a text file I can =
open
> in PALEdit. From there I set up each suitcase/object I need to pack as =
a
> level 1 heading. Under each heading, using +(, I list what should be
> packed.
>....
> I also tried importing the file into MM/LX and it worked great. Mind =
Map
> also has a "check-off" feature that allows you to do the same thing =
and, of
> course, has an even more visual display.

Excellent example. This should end up in the tips and tricks section of
D&ASoft.

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Nathalie wrote:

>I can offer to give a second opinion on any
> infant diseases - i just passed my exam as a standard ER and Pediatric
> Emergency Specialist.

Congratulations Nathalie, I'm sure everyone on the list is very
happy for you.

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That was George Clooney's job on 'ER'. Kewl!
BTW: 'ER' is a popular medical drama show here in the U.S.

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>
>
> Nathalie wrote:
>
> >I can offer to give a second opinion on any
> > infant diseases - i just passed my exam as a standard ER and Pediatric
> > Emergency Specialist.
>
> Congratulations Nathalie, I'm sure everyone on the list is very
> happy for you.
>
> Cheers, Roger
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I have an 8MB DS with no new programmes installed
when I try & copy something on the C Disc it says memory full after a
bit of it is loaded
Any ideas?

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Avi,

Don't apologize for the education you have provided with your description =
of a credit card transaction from the seller's viewpoint!  That was really =
good, and I have saved it for future reference.

As an aside, I think that the comments reeived in reaction to a slow =
response were quite reasoned, and, as it turns out, correct.   The fax =
system failed.  Too many of us use a direct fax machine to fax machine =
paradigm, and, thereby with virtually no security.  We think about the =
receipt of the fax and we don't realize that the seller or recipient still =
hasn't received the fax.

Let me also add that, regarding another order, my girls both thought that =
your support was impressive after twice calling us by phone when there were =
some questions after order receipt.  I can still hear your voice laughing =
when I finally realized who called me!

Welcome back to the HP-LX list! =20

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Date:         Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:49:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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On the desktop, I open the pdf file in Acrobat, just as you do, then <Edit>
<Copy File to Clipboard>, and paste it into the editor of my choice. I then
delete a small amount of garbage and save the remainder as an ascii file.
This saves turf, memory-wise, and bypasses all that graphics stuff, if all
you're after is the text in the pdf. If you want the graphics, then your
method is better.

I hasten to add that I've got the full-up version of Acrobat; things might
not be the same in Acrobat Reader.

Larry Mittell

At 08:03 AM 7/10/01, Bruce Martin wrote:
>Or you can open it in Acrobat on your desktop, capture a screenshot to your
>clipboard (I think on a Windows box you press PrtScrn), then trim it neatly
>in a graphics program before saving the image to .pcx or some other format.
>Then you can view it in LXPic on your palmtop.

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Hello all,
I'm recently looking to get back to my HPLX after a long Palm-powered =
hiatus.  I finally found parts to fix my LX and finally have a fairly =
pristine unit.  The only problem is that while I was away from the =
wonderful device I became addicted to the wireless email and =
web-browsing features of my Kyocera 6035 smartphone.  So the question =
is:

Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly =
increasing it's size?
I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any technology is avalible to me.  An =
Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never found one avalible.  =
Richocet is quite tempting, but both cards seem to draw more power than =
the LX is willing to give.  I haven't really researched the =
all-on-the-card cellular modems, anyone know much about them? =20

I'm willing to give up the cell phone features, and I'm willing to have =
a little nub and/or antena sticking out of the LX's PCMCIA slot, but I'm =
not willing to use anything that will increase the LX's size by much.  =
If I can find something that will do all this for me, the LX will go off =
for a memory upgrade and doublespeeding, the Kyocera phone will go in =
the stuff drawer, and I will have the wireless email/web/usenet device =
I've always dreamed off. =20

Can anyone help me out here?

Also, if anyone does happen to have a 700lx or know of one for sale, =
please do let me know.

Thanks,
Reed Kennedy

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<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm recently looking to get back to my =
HPLX after a=20
long Palm-powered hiatus.&nbsp; I finally found parts to fix my LX and =
finally=20
have a fairly pristine unit.&nbsp; The only problem is that while I was =
away=20
from the wonderful device I became addicted to the wireless email and=20
web-browsing features of my Kyocera 6035 smartphone.&nbsp; So the =
question=20
is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any way to run the HPLX with =
wireless=20
TCP/IP without greatly increasing it's size?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any =
technology=20
is avalible to me.&nbsp; An Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never =
found=20
one avalible.&nbsp; Richocet is quite tempting, but both cards seem to =
draw more=20
power than the LX is willing to give.&nbsp; I haven't really researched =
the=20
all-on-the-card cellular modems, anyone know much about them?&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm willing to give up the cell phone =
features, and=20
I'm willing to have a little nub and/or antena sticking out of the LX's =
PCMCIA=20
slot, but I'm not willing to use anything that will increase the LX's =
size by=20
much.&nbsp; If I can find something that will do all this for me, the LX =
will go=20
off&nbsp;for a memory upgrade and doublespeeding, the Kyocera phone will =
go in=20
the stuff drawer, and I will have the wireless email/web/usenet device =
I've=20
always dreamed off.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can anyone help me out =
here?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also, if anyone does happen to have a =
700lx or know=20
of one for sale, please do let me know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reed=20
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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:36:13 -0700
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> I have an 8MB DS with no new programmes installed
> when I try & copy something on the C Disc it says memory full after a
> bit of it is loaded Any ideas?

1. Before the copy, how much free space does Filer say you have
        on C?
2. Exactly how many bytes is "a bit of it"?
3. What's the output from chkdsk for C?  You can capture this by
        exiting to DOS, and running the command:

chkdsk c: > chkdsk.txt

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On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 04:18:47PM -0700, SoftHome wrote:
> Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly increasing it's size?
> I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any technology is avalible to me.  An Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never found one avalible.  Richocet is quite tempting, but both cards seem to draw more power than the LX is willing to give.  I haven't really researched the all-on-the-card cellular modems, anyone know much about them?

the external ricochet SX are very thin and work plugged into the serial port.  I had it velcroed to the bottom of the hplx and it was very compact in size.  the SX added less than half an inch to the height, stuck out a tad in the back, and about an inch off the side.

I use cdpd service these days, a lot slower, but more suited to my needs.  I keep it in my bag connected to the hplx serial cable and just pull out the cable when i need it.

I use a novatel sage, which is about the size of an hplx on it's own.  a have also used a (now discontinued) sierra wireless pocket 110, which was even smaller and had a 14.4k landline modem built in.

as the external cdpd modems are harder to come by these days, you may also want to look into the novatel wireless minstrel v for the palm v.  it's palmV size, and is serial with a palmV connector, so you can modify it.


LAST OPTION, I PROMISE :)

many cellular phones these days have a built in modem and can take a serial cable.  if you have need of a cell phone as well and have either a data plan or a large minute base, then this is probably the most versatile and solution.  I recommend the serial cable capable fone over one with a pcmcia card as the pcmcia card (if they work with the hplx) take up the slot and i still have a cable connecting it all.  There's also the IR option, but it's a bit clunky if you want to use it while walking or otherwise aren't sitting somewhere.

> Also, if anyone does happen to have a 700lx or know of one for sale, please do let me know.

I think the size of a 700lx with a phone in the cradle is taller than velcroing the new 128k ricochet modems.  But that's just a guess, as i haven't tried either.

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web-browsing features of my Kyocera 6035 smartphone.  So the question is:
>
>Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly
>increasing it's size?
>I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any technology is avalible to me.  An
>Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never found one avalible.  Richocet
>is quite tempting, but both cards seem to draw more power than the LX is
>willing to give.  I haven't really researched the all-on-the-card cellular
>modems, anyone know much about them?

I use a Sierra Wireless 510 card in a Jornada 720 on Sprint
PCS service. It works quite well, altho I think the power
consumption is rather high. Just a 2" antenna outside the
PCMCIA card and that's it. Signal sensitivity not as good as
a corresponding cell phone (also on Sprint) at the same location,
but acceptable in most cases. Data rate is "14.4k bps" with MUCH
data lag (so only simple web pages & e-mail possible) but it is
quite workable.

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> On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 04:18:47PM -0700, SoftHome wrote:
> > Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly
increasing it's size?
> > I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any technology is avalible to me.  An
Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never found one avalible.  Richocet is
quite tempting, but both cards seem to draw more power than the LX is
willing to give.  I haven't really researched the all-on-the-card cellular
modems, anyone know much about them?
>
> the external ricochet SX are very thin and work plugged into the serial
port.  I had it velcroed to the bottom of the hplx and it was very compact
in size.  the SX added less than half an inch to the height, stuck out a tad
in the back, and about an inch off the side.

I might look into that.  Any idea if the old SXs are still avalible
anywhere?  Ricochet no longer sells them, and I couldn't easilly find any.

> I use cdpd service these days, a lot slower, but more suited to my needs.
I keep it in my bag connected to the hplx serial cable and just pull out the
cable when i need it.

I've had very poor luck with CDPD in the past, unfortunately.

> I use a novatel sage, which is about the size of an hplx on it's own.

But for that size I'd just as soon have a Libretto form factor device with
the Ricochet novatel card.

>  a have also used a (now discontinued) sierra wireless pocket 110, which
was even smaller and had a 14.4k landline modem built in.

That sounds interesting, but I'd still be stuck with CDPD.

> as the external cdpd modems are harder to come by these days, you may also
want to look into the novatel wireless minstrel v for the palm v.  it's
palmV size, and is serial with a palmV connector, so you can modify it.

Have one, built the cable, etc, etc...  I've never had decent connection
reliability with CDPD.  I tried my Minstrel V with both my Palm and laptop,
and while it "worked" in the not-broken sense, I was almost always just
about ready to throw it at a wall.  It seemed to require over 2x the signal
strength of a cell to fuction, and even walking between two tall buildings
in the SF -Financial- -District- would play with it's little head.

Anyone want a Minstrel V?

> LAST OPTION, I PROMISE :)

Oh, options are good!

> many cellular phones these days have a built in modem and can take a
serial cable.  if you have need of a cell phone as well and have either a
data plan or a large minute base, then this is probably the most versatile
and solution.  I recommend the serial cable capable fone over one with a
pcmcia card as the pcmcia card (if they work with the hplx) take up the slot
and i still have a cable connecting it all.  There's also the IR option, but
it's a bit clunky if you want to use it while walking or otherwise aren't
sitting somewhere.

Yes, this is exactly what I'm tempted to do, but I end up carrying 2 devices
again, which is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.  The Kyocera has it's own
issues, but it's sure spoiled me for intergation.

> > Also, if anyone does happen to have a 700lx or know of one for sale,
please do let me know.
>
> I think the size of a 700lx with a phone in the cradle is taller than
velcroing the new 128k ricochet modems.  But that's just a guess, as i
haven't tried either.

True.  But it's a nifty package, you'll have to admit.  I'd be interested in
a 700lx just for collector's value even if I decide not to use it as my mail
unit.  I've found one in Britan that I can get for about $250 (without the
phone) if his Japenese buyer doesn't come through by Friday.

We'll see on that one.

It looks like I may not be able to do exactly what I'd hoped to, but I'll
continue to explore my options.  Thanks for your help!

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>> web-browsing features of my Kyocera 6035 smartphone.  So the question is:
> >
> >Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly
> >increasing it's size?
> >I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any technology is avalible to me.  An
> >Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never found one avalible.  Richocet
> >is quite tempting, but both cards seem to draw more power than the LX is
> >willing to give.  I haven't really researched the all-on-the-card
cellular
> >modems, anyone know much about them?
>
> I use a Sierra Wireless 510 card in a Jornada 720 on Sprint
> PCS service. It works quite well, altho I think the power
> consumption is rather high. Just a 2" antenna outside the
> PCMCIA card and that's it. Signal sensitivity not as good as
> a corresponding cell phone (also on Sprint) at the same location,
> but acceptable in most cases. Data rate is "14.4k bps" with MUCH
> data lag (so only simple web pages & e-mail possible) but it is
> quite workable.

Sierra lists the max draw on that card as 680mA.
They don't list max draw for their Ricochet card.
Novatel lists max draw for their Rico card as 768 mA which isn't -so- much
more.

Anyone know what the max burst power the HPLX can give is?  Any chance the
Novatel card would work?  If there's a chance I'll go buy one and try it
out.

Anyone tried it and know for certain if it works or not?

Thanks,
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 04:18:47PM -0700, SoftHome wrote:
> Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly increasing it's size?

I've been trying to solve the same problem.  For a while I've been
using the serial cable to connect my 200lx to my Mitsubishi T250 cell
phone, which has a built in CDPD modem.  (Actually I cut both the
serial cable for the 200lx and the serial cable for the T250 down to
about two inches in length so that I wouldn't have to carry 7 feet of
cable, and also to obviate the need for a null-modem converter and a
couple of gender changers.  The T250 cable has some electronics
embedded in its serial port connector, so I had to cut off the
phone-side connector and then re-soldered the wires onto its pins.  If
you've ever seen the connector for the T250, you'll realize what a
challenge this is.  My wife has forbidden me from soldering for a few
weeks -- it took me two days and I burned my fingers, but now I'm much
better at fine soldering!)

More recently, after a long search, I found someone who would sell me
(at a high price) a used Motorola PM100C CDPD modem.  This is a PCMCIA
card but it draws its power not from the palmtop but from a standard
9-volt alkaline battery that sits in a small plastic pocket just to
the outside of the palmtop.  This I think is the smallest possible
option, and it doesn't require any cables.  Unfortunately, the modem
has been discontinued.  I believe there was also a company called
Tellus that manufactured a similar modem called Monarch, and Uniden
made one called Data 2000.  Both have been discontinued.  Be careful
though not to buy a similar looking wireless modem for the "Bell South
Intelligent Wireless Network", as that is not a native TCP/IP network
-- examples include the Megahertz AllPoints modem and the Motorola
PM100D.  (Both also discontinued, I think.)

You might also want to consider just using a cell phone to dial up
your ISP.  One of the annoying features of CDPD is that the first-hop
round-trip latency is at least .5 seconds when sending a 40-byte ICMP
echo request packet (measured on a Novatel Sage), so if you want to
use it to log in to a Unix server you are in for some pretty painful
typing.  I've been using the pppd packet driver on the 200lx and find
that when I ping another machine using the T250 the round-trip time is
even worse (1.3 seconds).  It could be that the difference is due in
part to the size of the packet (which I can't easily change, and don't
know), but in any case when I log in using sshdos I generally cannot
type very many characters before the connection hangs.  As far as I
can tell, this is due to this high latency and timeouts in WATTCP's
implementation of TCP/IP.  The phone itself seems to have a reliable
CDPD connection, and sshdos works fine using a landline modem.  But
it's hard to diagnose these things.  I don't think you'll see this
same latency if you dial up with a celluar-ready modem and a cell
phone.  (My T250, however, doesn't seem to be cable of doing this.)


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HP Staber wrote:
> Don,
> ...
> > I also tried importing the file into MM/LX and it worked great. Mind =
Map
> > also has a "check-off" feature that allows you to do the same thing =
and, of
> > course, has an even more visual display.
>
> Excellent example. This should end up in the tips and tricks section of
> D&ASoft.

Yes, I was thinking about it too. Can the oroginal author send
it along if it is ok to post on our Website? TIA!

  Avi

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Joe, Welcome back home. Now I can sleep well, finally! <G>...

And congratulations on the successful project.

If any part of it is possible to publish publicly, I would
like to do so. I am aware of the sensitive nature of the
information, so it is up to you if you can clean it up enough.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com


j wrote:
> I just returned from China, coordinating there a very
> large buyout (>$500m). The staff of about 100 included
> lawyers (as usual), beancounter (lots of them!),
> techies, bankers, and politicians (we called them
> "consultants" <g>)
>
> There was hardly time: 10 days for the due dilligence
> work is almost impossible. We used the next 5 days,
> earmarked for negotiations to do more due dilligence,
> feeding the info to my palmtop - summarising it as
> items in MM/LX.

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Wasn't there a cradle available for this?  Or was that just receive-only
page reception?  I seem to remember it could update your lotus spreadsheets
for you automatically ... sheesh, it's been a while.

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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:12:57 -0600

web-browsing features of my Kyocera 6035 smartphone.  So the question is:
>
>Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly
>increasing it's size?
>I live in the SF Bay Area, so most any technology is avalible to me.  An
>Omnigo 700lx would be ideal, but I've never found one avalible.  Richocet
>is quite tempting, but both cards seem to draw more power than the LX is
>willing to give.  I haven't really researched the all-on-the-card cellular
>modems, anyone know much about them?

I use a Sierra Wireless 510 card in a Jornada 720 on Sprint
PCS service. It works quite well, altho I think the power
consumption is rather high. Just a 2" antenna outside the
PCMCIA card and that's it. Signal sensitivity not as good as
a corresponding cell phone (also on Sprint) at the same location,
but acceptable in most cases. Data rate is "14.4k bps" with MUCH
data lag (so only simple web pages & e-mail possible) but it is
quite workable.

Dave

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Tim Schweikert wrote:
> Avi,
>
> Don't apologize for the education you have provided with your descriptio=
n of a credit card transaction from the seller's viewpoint!  That was =
really
> good, and I have saved it for future reference.

Oh, I get into my lecturer mode <g> and start feeling
guilty...

> As an aside, I think that the comments reeived in reaction to a slow =
response were quite reasoned, and, as it turns out, correct.   The fax
> system failed.  Too many of us use a direct fax machine to fax machine =
paradigm, and, thereby with virtually no security.  We think about the
> receipt of the fax and we don't realize that the seller or recipient =
still hasn't received the fax.

Same happens with email. You send it and the very natural
assumption is that the receiver received it.

> Let me also add that, regarding another order, my girls both thought =
that your support was impressive after twice calling us by phone when =
there were
> some questions after order receipt.  I can still hear your voice =
laughing when I finally realized who called me!

It was fun to surprise you. We "met" years ago and it was a
fun excuse to get to hear your voice. And I knew from you some
info about the daughters, and her voice was so astonished when
I mentioned the fact! I had fun.

Sometimes, customers get stuck, really badly, and the only
thing that helps is a phone call. It happens infrequently, but
it so much fun to call, unstick someone, and then hear the joy
in their voice, the surprise, the pleasure...

  Avi

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OK; as a "neophyte" to the world of "outlines" ...... I followed the idea of
using "+(" and "-" w/ my "PE" doc...... I also followed using "CTRL+C" and
"Using Records" w/ the default "+(" as the record delimiter, etc.......

BUT, now I show certain entries w/ "+" marks next to them ..... and items in
"sub" or "daughter" entries....... How do I expand and contract these
entries at will?

Have I mentioned "outline neophyte"?

TIA,

--tim

PS. I'd love a program that would let me organize my thoughts this way AND
easily export/translate between a Palm, a 200LX and *any* IBM-compat.
program out there....... Well, "*any*" in the usual "MS Office" or similar
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hi Teo,

on 10 Jul 2001, at 17:58 Teo Soon Bock wrote about:
Re: pdf on the Palmtop

> >
>
> If you can let us know the URL of the pdf-file, we can download and try the
> conversion, to see whether we are getting the same error as you.
>
>

I have uploaded one example on my homepage.
you can download the file here:
http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/bus.pdf

thanks,

Werner


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hi Larry,

thank you for the hint. Thats very interesting, I tried it with my file,
and it works in acrobat reader, but the problem is, that in my case the
data are lined up one after the other and so the timetable is not readable
very good. But I will look into this, maybe I find a way to convert this
long line into a database.
You can look at my example here:
http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/bus.pdf

Werner


on 10 Jul 2001, at 12:49 Larry Mittell wrote about:
Re: pdf on the Palmtop

> On the desktop, I open the pdf file in Acrobat, just as you do, then <Edit>
> <Copy File to Clipboard>, and paste it into the editor of my choice. I then
> delete a small amount of garbage and save the remainder as an ascii file.
> This saves turf, memory-wise, and bypasses all that graphics stuff, if all
> you're after is the text in the pdf. If you want the graphics, then your
> method is better.
>
> I hasten to add that I've got the full-up version of Acrobat; things might
> not be the same in Acrobat Reader.
>
> Larry Mittell
>
> At 08:03 AM 7/10/01, Bruce Martin wrote:
> >Or you can open it in Acrobat on your desktop, capture a screenshot to your
> >clipboard (I think on a Windows box you press PrtScrn), then trim it neatly
> >in a graphics program before saving the image to .pcx or some other format.
> >Then you can view it in LXPic on your palmtop.
>



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hi Bruce,

on 10 Jul 2001, at 11:03 Bruce Martin wrote about:
Re: pdf on the Palmtop

> > Just send your pdf-file as an attachment to either address below, and it
> > will be converted and sent back to you accordingly, either as text or
> html,
> > within a matter of minutes.

that was my first attempt, but the result was not very beautiful and I'd
have to convert a pretty large number of these files (we have 8 Bus lines,
each has at least 3 different tables, plus tables for weekends, so I
stopped the work at this point and started looking for a better solution)

Werner


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Hi Dr. Werner Furlan,

I just tried to send your document to that email address for conversion,
and got the same error message as you.  Not sure what is the reason.

I then load the document in Acrobat Reader 4.0, and found that it is
possible to copy and paste the contents into either a text file or Excel,
but all the various columns are appended into one long column.

Seems like it would be easier to use Excel: cut-and-paste the sections into
new columns, and finally save it as a csv file, ready for conversion to LX
database.


At 09:36 AM 7/11/01 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
 >hi Larry,
 >
 >thank you for the hint. Thats very interesting, I tried it with my file,
 >and it works in acrobat reader, but the problem is, that in my case the
 >data are lined up one after the other and so the timetable is not readable
 >very good. But I will look into this, maybe I find a way to convert this
 >long line into a database.
 >You can look at my example here:
 >http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/bus.pdf
 >
 >Werner
 >
 >
 >on 10 Jul 2001, at 12:49 Larry Mittell wrote about:
 >Re: pdf on the Palmtop
 >
 >> On the desktop, I open the pdf file in Acrobat, just as you do, then <Edit>
 >> <Copy File to Clipboard>, and paste it into the editor of my choice. I then
 >> delete a small amount of garbage and save the remainder as an ascii file.
 >> This saves turf, memory-wise, and bypasses all that graphics stuff, if all
 >> you're after is the text in the pdf. If you want the graphics, then your
 >> method is better.
 >>
 >> I hasten to add that I've got the full-up version of Acrobat; things might
 >> not be the same in Acrobat Reader.
 >>
 >> Larry Mittell
 >>
 >> At 08:03 AM 7/10/01, Bruce Martin wrote:
 >> >Or you can open it in Acrobat on your desktop, capture a screenshot to
your
 >> >clipboard (I think on a Windows box you press PrtScrn), then trim it
neatly
 >> >in a graphics program before saving the image to .pcx or some other
format.
 >> >Then you can view it in LXPic on your palmtop.
 >>
 >
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On Mon,  9 Jul 2001 15:07:46 -0600, Donald Puscher wrote:

Donald

> I also tried importing the file into MM/LX and it worked great. Mind Map
> also has a "check-off" feature that allows you to do the same thing and, of
> course, has an even more visual display.
>
> Anyone else have a way of keeping simple checklists?

I used MM/LX planning my trip to Sweden. I am very happy, and I have
not forgotten anything that I had to take with me.

I also use MM/LX to write a triplog. Works great for me. Using the
program really makes me think things thru.

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On Mon,  9 Jul 2001 15:00:39 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote:

Avi

> Packing lists I used to keep in a text file, but I think I'll
> try MM/LX now (thanks to you! <g>) because I have a 10 day
> trip coming up in mid-July.

I first divided it in catagories.

Bikerelated
Personalrelated(cloths, techequipment and so on)

Then I added what I had to take with me.

Then I just copied the things in to two other catagories:

Packed in: tankbag or in backpack. Very nice. Now I have a inventory of
my bags too..

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:18:47 -0700, SoftHome wrote:

> Also, if anyone does happen to have a 700lx or know of one for sale,
> please do let me know.

I can see what I can do when I get home. I am on vacation now and will
be home some time next week.

What are you willing to pay for one? The one I can get my hands on are
new or as new as you can get. Mint condition.

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Hi

I am now sitting in the hotellobby of Winn Gislaved Hotel in Gislaved
just 5 km from Anderstorp Scandinavien Raceway where I will attend a
drivingcourse for motorcycle.

The weather is not that nice right now, but it is only theory tonight.
Then on the racetrack tomorrow and friday.

This MUP is not that unusual when I come to think about it :-)

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Nathalie,

> Congratulations Nathalie, I'm sure everyone on the list is very
> happy for you.

Congratulations from here too!

Kind regards

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Joe,

> I just returned from China, coordinating there a very
> large buyout (>$500m). The staff of about 100 included
> lawyers (as usual), beancounter (lots of them!),
> techies, bankers, and politicians (we called them
> "consultants" <g>)
>
> There was hardly time: 10 days for the due dilligence
> work is almost impossible. We used the next 5 days,
> earmarked for negotiations to do more due dilligence,
> feeding the info to my palmtop - summarising it as
> items in MM/LX.

I read your message with great interest!

I am key account manager and have to deal daily with people you
mentioned in your message. I use MM/LX with great pleasure as it makes
daily life more convenient:

    when meetings will be prepared
    during meetings
    and this is an important point for me what happens next?

How can I make all the information available to the involved people. This
is where an additional strength of MM/LX comes in.

MM/LX allows multimaps in one file. as well as links to other mindmaps,
including title selection of the linked map.

Thus I export the relevant maps using a few keystrokes Ctrl-P or
<Menu><File)<Export to Html> and email them hot and up-to-date to my
colleagues. Ctrl-P of a "Multimap in one File" creates *one* html file
containing the information in an attractiv everywhere readable format
using Netscape or MSIE browsers.

In the past I created one mindmaps for one major topic. As a result
of this I had to convert all related mindmaps to html, which is well
supported from th command line using a batch file, provided by Tony
Hutchins. Tony, thank you very much for your help.

tohtml.bat
for %%i in ( %1 ) do <vol>:\<directory>mm.exe -h %%i

My mm files reached a size of 15KB. MM/LX works very fast. Alt-T displays
the relevant information of large maps. For repeated tasks and meetings
I use Ctrl-T, which helps to strucure information in an easy way and
fast.

Up to now I am using only a few functions ALT-T, CTRL-T, Cut and Paste
providing full control on items and branches and CTRL-P for export. So
learning how to use didn't take me long time.

I wonder, why this tool wasn't requested earlier.

Great tool for the daily use!

Kind regards

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> PS. I'd love a program that would let me organize my thoughts
this way AND
> easily export/translate between a Palm, a 200LX and *any*
IBM-compat.
> program out there....... Well, "*any*" in the usual "MS
Office" or similar
> bundle......

Unfortunately outliner-type programs have a long history of
incompatibility with each other (lack of standards due to lack
of popularity for the input format), so I don't foresee much
hope for the above.   Palm outliners and a mindmap type of
program I saw at Palmgear are incompatible with each other.  So
are the Windows outliners and mindmap programs that I have
tested.

The only thing close to a standard for documents that I have
seen across platforms is html.   Every device I have seen has a
way to read standard html easily (though I have yet to see an
easy way to write it outside of Windows).  Guess how many people
do their daily work in that format  .  .  .

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Hi Avi,

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:37:39 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Folks, several hours ago we closed the entire backlog of
> orders, and everything went out, including Daniel Hertrich's.

Yes, I received the reg data. Thanks alot! MM/LX is really a very
powerful program. I'll first use it to take notes in meetings and
lectures to learn how to use it fast and effective. After that I'll
extend the functionality for me to organize all my notes from note
taker and so on.

May I ask how many orders you have got for MM/LX? Of course I
understand if you don't want to give that information, business
rules actually deny it. But I'm really curious.

Are there any plans for future releases of MM/LX to add some features
or to improve it?

GTX
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Hi friends,

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:03:16 -0400, Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> wrote:

> Or you can open it in Acrobat on your desktop, capture a screenshot to your
> clipboard (I think on a Windows box you press PrtScrn), then trim it neatly
> in a graphics program before saving the image to .pcx or some other format.
> Then you can view it in LXPic on your palmtop.

That's a good idea!
And you could make it even more easy (at least under Linux - don't know
if it is also possible in a Windows environment):
You could simply install something like a printr driver which creates a
PCX file or something which can easily be converted into PCX and print
the PDF to that filter.

GTX
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Daniel,

> May I ask how many orders you have got for MM/LX?

If I were Avi I would say you may ask of course. <g>

I personally wouldn't expect any answer.

> Are there any plans for future releases of MM/LX to add some features
> or to improve it?

If I were Avi, I would say YES! There is a saying: There is always room
for an improvement.

You got just started now and welcome to the club of users who really
like this powerful tool. Do you already have any idea of improvement?
At present I don't. I didn't suffer from any short comings of MM/LX so far.
I think it is well implemented on the hp200lx with its technical
restrictions

But may I ask you how you use it?

   multimaps in one file?
   do you use Crtl-T?
   do you share your information?
      how and with whom are you sharing it?
      only results?
      do you include notes?

Since it is new on the hp200lx, I feel I will learn a lot from other
users especially the way they use it.

Looking  forward to hearing from you!

Kind regards

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> Do you already have any idea of improvement?

One thought I had, which would probably make the program too complex,
was to allow multiple "parents" to have the same "child".  Sometimes the
"logic" of the material being entered into MM/LX has this characteristic.

The very first thing I tried to use MM/LX for (and it was a success,
despite the above limitation) was to document a user interface menu
flow on a small embedded consumer electronics device I was writing
software for.  What had previously taken me one crowded B-size page
(that's 11x17 inches, or 28x43 cm for the metrically inclinded) of flow
charts and several A-size pages (1/2 of a B sheet, normal 8-1/2x11) of
accompanying notes.  I was able to clearly express the menu flow on a
single MM/LX file/map.   I only wish I had had the program *before* I
started the project, and it would have saved me some time and effort.
As it was, I basically did it after the fact to both document the
menu in an electronic format, and as a test to help me learn the program.

-Chris Lott



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Chris,

> > Do you already have any idea of improvement?
>
> One thought I had, which would probably make the program too complex,
> was to allow multiple "parents" to have the same "child".  Sometimes the
> "logic" of the material being entered into MM/LX has this characteristic.

I am just thinking if I had any demand for two parents for one child.
Not yet, I am sorry. Maybe I will find an answer later. Anyway an
interesting aspect.

Still thinking, if I could simulate two parents > one child the
same way as I do m:n relations within database applications using a
detour? Give me some time.

The purpose for what you used MM/LX makes great sense to me. Using a
mindmap to get an idea what the problem is about and get it structured.
And the nice thing for me is to be able to have this on a go
everywhere.

My main map, which is defined within mm.cfg looks like an index to

   start
      &business
      &privat
      &vacations
      &hp200lx
      ..

And whenever I get an idea, one keystroke takes me to the appropriate
linked map.

Thanks for your contribution.

Kind regards

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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> > May I ask how many orders you have got for MM/LX?
>
> If I were Avi I would say you may ask of course. <g>

ROFL!!! Great minds map alike! :-¨ I answered just like that!

> > Are there any plans for future releases of MM/LX to add some features
> > or to improve it?
>
> If I were Avi, I would say YES! There is a saying: There is always room
> for an improvement.

Great minds map alike.... I said the same, but many more
words!

> You got just started now and welcome to the club of users who really
> like this powerful tool. Do you already have any idea of improvement?
> At present I don't. I didn't suffer from any short comings of MM/LX so =
far.
> I think it is well implemented on the hp200lx with its technical
> restrictions

One of the interesting things I noticed about Mm/LX is that it
is a mind expander. First you think of two-three uses, and it
is good for them. Then another idea pops. then three more pop,
then 10 more pop into your mind, and you don't even have time
to write them down. Then it is a blur .... It is sort of
exponential, explosive growth, which (at least my) the brain
seems to love!

Several people commented on the same process. Eventually you
settle on some number of maps, and ideas and it is quite
sweet.

Yesterday I wrote to a friend who has not tried MM/LX and as
an example took the project she is involved in now, setting up
he vacation condo. In about 5 minutes, I had an elaborate
mindmap, with examples, pictures, the works. This was just to
explain to her what this is about.

If anyone looked the "Lunch mindmap tutorial" I put on the
Webpage, you should know it took about 2-3 minutes to put
together, because it was mimicking all the elements of how my
mind was working, what I wanted to demonstrate, etc.

Helmuth, your example mindmap is fabulous! It is like a
"general store" - you can find in it ANYTHING you want. Quite
a fabulous way to demonstrate MM/LX and its power.

> But may I ask you how you use it?
>
>    multimaps in one file?
>    do you use Crtl-T?
>    do you share your information?
>       how and with whom are you sharing it?
>       only results?
>       do you include notes?

This should become a "mandatory" questionnaire <G> ...

> Since it is new on the hp200lx, I feel I will learn a lot from other
> users especially the way they use it.

A few days ago someone posted about a checklist for a trip!
Fabulous - I am going on a 10 day trip on July 19th - I will
DEFINITELY use the idea. I never thought about it before the
post...

  Avi

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Avi,
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:37:39 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
> > Folks, several hours ago we closed the entire backlog of
> > orders, and everything went out, including Daniel Hertrich's.
>
> Yes, I received the reg data. Thanks alot! MM/LX is really a very
> powerful program. I'll first use it to take notes in meetings and
> lectures to learn how to use it fast and effective. After that I'll
> extend the functionality for me to organize all my notes from note
> taker and so on.

Terrific. I am glad you have it and can use it now fully.

(BTW, Axel also sent the info we needed yesterday, and his order will be
processed today, Wed.)

> May I ask how many orders you have got for MM/LX? Of course I

You just asked, of course you may ask <g>...

> understand if you don't want to give that information, business
> rules actually deny it. But I'm really curious.

I'll have my partner tear out my throat if I _answered_ - so
maybe not, heh? <VBG>

> Are there any plans for future releases of MM/LX to add some features
> or to improve it?

I think the best way to make it happen is for MANY people to
use it (buy it, too, please <g>) and find what they need, and
bombard info@dasoft.com with email about it - A LOT!!! This
tends to get attention because I take customer feedback into
the Beta. Also, many of the beta participants hang out here:
Hans Peter, Helmuth, Fred, Tony, Martin, ... who did I miss?
And they take stuff like this into the beta too.

the thing is this: Sometimes you just go along and get along
just fine without some feature. Then someone wakes up and says
"I need feature XYZ!". You check yourself, and realize you
could double your productivity with such a feature! Suddenly
you REALLY want this, because it would give you benefits you
never thought of before!

So post ideas, post needs, post requirements, so others can
see them. Then if it pertains to you, send an email to
info@dasoft.com. We added a large number of features to other
software we have BECAUSE of customer feedback.

In fact the beta serves this purpose as well - a bunch of
nuty, demanding, ranting, lunatic customers in one small group
who help Andreas to put together the product. If it was just
up to him, the initial products would have a lot less
features, since he would build what he needs, no more. But the
Beta adds many many more ideas, and so by the time the product
is released it has a large feature set, which makes many
people oooh and aaaah.

So you all can add to the features by using MM/LX, telling
others about it, and posting your experiences and needs here,
and then send email to info@dasoft.com.

I promise at least to look at requirements, although I cannot
promise that we will build EVERYTHING into the product.

Thanks for the post and question!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:54:34 +1200
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Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:23:39 +1200 (NZT)

03h51m14s ago ...
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:32:25 -0500, Chris Lott wrote:

> > Do you already have any idea of improvement?
>
> One thought I had, which would probably make the program
> too complex, was to allow multiple "parents" to have the
> same "child".  Sometimes the "logic" of the material being
> entered into MM/LX has this characteristic.

Yup it happens where a subroutine is heavily used for example.
In one .MM file I have the "main" map and a couple of
"subroutines", each with their own map. The "main" map does
have the "subroutines" linked more than once (CTRL-M to link
and then "#sub1" for example). I try to make the subroutines as
big as possible to reduce the apparent complexity. CTRL-F9
takes me back to a drop down menu showing all the modules.

Here, "sub1" may have many parents, at different levels, and
yes, if "sub1" were represented only once on the screen, with
links to all its parents, the screen would look very complex.

- Tony

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:56:36 +0000
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Longden Loo wrote:
> > when I try & copy something on the C Disc it says memory full after a
>
...
> 3. What's the output from chkdsk for C?  You can capture this by
>         exiting to DOS, and running the command:
>
> chkdsk c: > chkdsk.txt

I would add the "/f" parm and fix any problems that exist.

  chkdsk /f c:

Cheers... Russ

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On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 12:56:36AM +0000, Russel Brooks wrote:
> Longden Loo wrote:
> > chkdsk c: > chkdsk.txt
>
> I would add the "/f" parm and fix any problems that exist.

I'd actually do both: check first, then fix later if needed.
That way, if there are errors, I can at least try to backup the
files that are important to me first, before chkdsk tries to fix
things and possibly do something to them that I wish it hadn't.

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> Avi M wrote:

> I have an ISP that now has two networks: In one I just enter
> my login and password, and I am in. The other network requires
> a DIFFERENT login: Specifically, that I add "@ISPXXX" right
> after the login. Password is the same.

Interesting to know, but I found the problem: operator error!  When I =
rentered my password in the setup, everything worked fine.  Love this =
software - wwwlx makes it possible to have the 200lx be my primary =
computer!  Thanks for the help.

Larry

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> Date:    Fri, 6 Jul 2001 15:36:27 -0400
> From:    Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Network Adapters
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>
> The card having the most success on the 200lx is the Accton card. There
> were some instructions on how to do this on www.hplx.net but
> it seems that I can never get there any more. Dave Seargent hosts that site
> as well as www.palmtop.net but he has also not been seen
> much lately (on the list, that is).

I've had good luck using a Kingston KNE-PC2T (EtherRx IC), a fairly generic
NE2000 clone. The trick, for me, was to replace CIC100 with LXCIC and to use
Ron Whitby's version of the Accton packet driver (LXEN2216.COM).

This is, admittedly, on a stock 2mb 200LX.

<<<john>>>

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 05:31:01 +0200
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I have been transfering my "sensitive" parts of the LX from SRAM to CF
cards, but someone who's "privacy" is sacrosanct told me that they too
become corrupt after a while. To enable my kids one day to read about all
those jokes on the LX list I copied everything to CD-roms because they were
to be as safe as a time capsule...but Nature magazine's headline reads:
 FUNGUS EATS CD!
"Spores bore holes in compact disks, rendering them useless.
 27 June 2001 http://www.nature.com/nsu/010628/010628-11.html"

and as to
 >Subject: FLUFF: D'oh... (sorry!) <disengage bandwidth conservation
 >mode> Exactly when did "duh" become "d'oh?" Could this be part of
 >a plot by Nathalie to stealthily and by degrees convert English
 >into a subset of French, perhaps? Inquiring minds and all that.

can't even remember ever using French here :) if you want to point to an
alternative list lingo, try Hobchi

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Date:         Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:36:30 -0800
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If TERRY A WARD reads this list, or if you know this person -
would you kindly contact D&A Software? info@dasoft.com

Thank you!

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Date:         Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:36:18 -0800
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Interesting timing, folks!

Got two inquiries about this, both from people who hang out
here <g> - in two days... So I decided to post it here, and it
is on the way to the MM/LX FAQ, guaranteed!

Question: I press F3 and the screen blinks at me and that's
that. How can I add a note to an item.

Answer: Check the MM.CFG, specifically

İSystem¨
   ...
Editor=3Dpe

Is the path to PE correct? In my MM.CFG it is because my
Palmtop specifies in the path also the directory where PE.EXE
resides. So when I press F3, MM.EXE goes out looking for PE,
and finds it on a directory which is specified in the PATH
statement in my AUTOEXEC.BAT.

If PE.EXE is NOT in a directory which is in the PATH, then all
hope is not lost! <g>

Just specify this:

İSystem¨
   ...
Editor=3DY:\XXXX\pe

where Y is the drive, and XXXX is the directory name where
PE.EXE resides.

Now save MM.CFG, and try that F3 again.

One guy found out himself, the other may have found out too,
by now! <G>...

Enjoy.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Date:         Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:36:27 -0800
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Chris Lott wrote:

> One thought I had, which would probably make the program too complex,
> was to allow multiple "parents" to have the same "child".  Sometimes =
the
> "logic" of the material being entered into MM/LX has this characteristic=
.

Interesting. We had some discussion during development on an
idea which I brought up. In that idea, a child would become a
clone of another and whatever changes made to the one, the
other (the clone, or clones) would also acquire. Thus, two
parents to "one" child.

We found no way to implement it without breaking the
underlying file text format. Maybe worth visiting again?

> The very first thing I tried to use MM/LX for (and it was a success,
> despite the above limitation) was to document a user interface menu
> flow on a small embedded consumer electronics device I was writing
   ...
> single MM/LX file/map.   I only wish I had had the program *before* I
> started the project, and it would have saved me some time and effort.
> As it was, I basically did it after the fact to both document the
> menu in an electronic format, and as a test to help me learn the =
program.

Use GRABBER to grab a picture of the menu, as rendered on the
screen of the Palmtop, then distribute the image to the users
as a graphical aid! If I can help you with this, let me know!

(Chris has the distinction to be among the FIRST DAY
purchasers of MM/LX!)

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Date:         Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:36:22 -0800
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Domingo wrote:
> The only thing close to a standard for documents that I have
> seen across platforms is html.   Every device I have seen has a
> way to read standard html easily (though I have yet to see an
> easy way to write it outside of Windows).  Guess how many people
> do their daily work in that format  .  .  .

Take a small detour in your daily routine to
http://www.dasoft.com click on the MindMap/LX link (top item
on the left gray column) and then check out the product
descrption. As you scroll down, you'll reach a spot talking
about Exporting to HTML. "DO* read what I did to create the
HELP page then click on the link. You may be pleasantly
surprised.

  Avi

  İCLAIMER <g>: I *am* associated with the vendor. I *do*
   benefit from sales of the product. I *am* biased. :-¨ ...¨

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:59:08 +0200
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Hi Reed,

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:18:47 -0700, SoftHome <atinytree@SOFTHOME.NET> wrote:

> I'm recently looking to get back to my HPLX after a long Palm-powered hiatus.  I finally found parts to fix my LX and finally have a fairly
> pristine unit.  The only problem is that while I was away from the wonderful device I became addicted to the wireless email and
> web-browsing features of my Kyocera 6035 smartphone.  So the question is:
>
> Is there any way to run the HPLX with wireless TCP/IP without greatly increasing it's size?

The simplest solution would be simply to attach a mobile phone to the
LX, either by data cable or by IrDA.

For infirmation about that, read my homepage

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

There are PCMCIA cards which are mobile "phones" by themselves ("Nokia
Card Phone", for example), but these won't work in the palmtop, because
they need more power than the palmtop can provide. So an external
solution would be the first (and only) choice.

(The only choice?? ;-) That's an oxymoron, isn't it?)

GTX
daniel

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Larry Castor wrote:
> > Avi M wrote:
>
> > I have an ISP that now has two networks: In one I just enter
      ....
> Interesting to know, but I found the problem: operator error!  When I =
rentered my password in the setup, everything worked fine.  Love this

Yep! My #2 advice! Check on the setup, login and password. I
should have put it as #1. By far, more problems than others
are bad entry of password and/or login. People cannot believe
it, but this has not failed.

An old AT&T account provided a record breaker: We worked 21
days on a case, had AT&T techies working along and so on. It
turned out to be the lower case letter l which was entered as
a numeric 1. Yuck!

Glad this works, and that you enjoy the program!

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:01:46 +0200
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Hello all,

I received an (unexpected) response from Yellow Computing and they
admitted the existence of the Transfile Win200 serial transmit freeze
problem with some files having "magic" bytes in it. Strangely they say
the problem is in 200LX's Filer, which I don't believe, as ConnPack
and X-finder work OK. Or maybe only the Xon/Xoff implementation is
faulty with the HPL, but not the hardware handshake used by other
(115kbps capable) software?

But they sent me a modified DLL, which should address the problem as
described below. My LX currently has a malfunctioning LCD screen, so I
can do only some limited testing; if you need the DLL (55KB) write me.
I will also upload later, if it definitely fixes the problem.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

>we were able to reproduce the problem using your file. It looks like
>there is a bug on the HP200LX side receiving but we have found a
>workaround. Please exit Transfile WIN 200 and replace DLL in your
>Transfile Win 200 installation directory with the one attached to
>this mail.
>You will still notice a delay of about 5 to 10 seconds in
>transmission reaching the byte count 108544 but then Transfile WIN
>200 continues to transfer the file correctly.

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hi Teo,

on 11 Jul 2001, at 16:19 Teo Soon Bock wrote about:
Re: pdf on the Palmtop

>
> Seems like it would be easier to use Excel: cut-and-paste the sections into
> new columns, and finally save it as a csv file, ready for conversion to LX
> database.
>
thats what I did, too. But it is cumbersome, because there are many
buslines...
My last try is to ask the busline company for help, maybe there is already
a database and they can export a file easily.

thank you,
Werner


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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:47:47 +0200
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Hi Avi,

finally, thanks a lot for sending the license! Sorry for having had any
hassle because of my impatience, I simply could'nt wait to get another gem
of D&A! But I think You will understand that! <gg> - Now I can't wait to
increase productivity at work! <g>

Cheers, Axel

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:51:18 +0200
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Hi Curtis,

thanks a lot for the new version of OL2X, it helps me a lot to get my
contacts and schedule into and out from my LX via Outlook to my REX, which
is also an important companion for me at work!

Cheers, Axel

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In message , Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> writes

>One thought I had, which would probably make the program too complex,
>was to allow multiple "parents" to have the same "child".  Sometimes the
>"logic" of the material being entered into MM/LX has this characteristic.

This was a star feature of GrandView (a venerable DOS outliner). It
called it a "clone". You could copy, move or clone a branch. Any changes
to one clone altered the other(s). If more than one clone was visible on
screen, you could watch them all change as you altered one. Quite cool!

I'm off to check out MM/LX now since the whole world seems to be raving
about it.
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Hi Chris

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:32:25 -0500, Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> One thought I had, which would probably make the program too complex,
> was to allow multiple "parents" to have the same "child".  Sometimes the
> "logic" of the material being entered into MM/LX has this characteristic.
>
> The very first thing I tried to use MM/LX for (and it was a success,
> despite the above limitation) was to document a user interface menu
> flow on a small embedded consumer electronics device I was writing
> software for.  What had previously taken me one crowded B-size page

I also thought if I could use MM/LX for the first step of software
development. Is there a way to model loops? Maybe take a parent of (a
parent of...) an item as a child?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Nathalie,

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 05:31:01 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> I have been transfering my "sensitive" parts of the LX from SRAM to CF
> cards, but someone who's "privacy" is sacrosanct told me that they too
> become corrupt after a while. To enable my kids one day to read about all
> those jokes on the LX list I copied everything to CD-roms because they were
> to be as safe as a time capsule...but Nature magazine's headline reads:
>  FUNGUS EATS CD!

What is FUNGUS?
I know that light destroys CD-Rs with time.
A CD-R burner doesn'T burn these little depressions which represent the
bits into the CD-Rs which are known from CD-ROMs, but they "burn" the metal
surface black for each bit. This metal surface is like a photographical
film: light blackens it with time. So keep your CD-Rs covered in their
jewel-cases, best is to store them all in a closed box or in a
closet. So the data is safe for many years.
But it is recommended to copy sensitive data onto a new CD-R every few
years.

CF cards can hold the data as long as you want, they don't suffer from
light or other influences. The life limitation they have is based on
access cycles. AFAIK, about one milino access cycles for each data unit
is guaranteed.
But if you simply put the data onto the CF and don't access it anymore,
it should be safe many, many years.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:33:01 +0200
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Hi Helmuth, (bcc to Andreas)

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:23:36 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> You got just started now and welcome to the club of users who really
> like this powerful tool. Do you already have any idea of improvement?

Yes: But I don't know if this is relizeable with reasonable effort:
I would love if mm/lx would show one mm file within another, if they
are linked. Maybe this should be switchable.
For example:
If I create a "main.mm" and have liks to other MMs "notes.mm" and
"todo.mm", I would love to be able to see the items in todo.mm
everytime I start main.mm. Bit notes.mm should NOT be visible, because
it contains so much items that the whole screen would be filled with
notes!

> But may I ask you how you use it?

You may.
You even get an answer. ;-)

>    multimaps in one file?

defninitely. I will probably use the "recurrecnt meeting" feature a
lot.

>    do you use Crtl-T?

That is the shortcut which calls the above mentioned feature, isn't it?

>    do you share your information?

not yet. But I am already considering if I will create parts of my
homepage with MM/LX and its HTML export capability.

>       only results?

What do you mean here?

>       do you include notes?

a lot!
Thus I am considering if I throw another tiny ans fast text editor on
my palmtop. PE needs some time to load, and as much as I use notes in
MMs, this is not ideal. Especailly when collecting notes during
lectures or meetings.

> Since it is new on the hp200lx, I feel I will learn a lot from other
> users especially the way they use it.

I already have learned a lot and I think there will be much more good
ideas how to use it!

I haven't done any actual useful work with MM/LX yet, just played
around and found out what's possible and what not, so I can decide what
it is really useful for and what not.

See my other post regarding notes.ndb conversion!

Andreas: I may have found a bug: Sometimes I have added a link to an
external file or to another map within the same file, and when I
clicked on that link, I only got a blank map screen, although the files
contained something.
I will see if I keep getting that behaviour. I cannot say for sure if it
wasn't my own fault.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

Do you want to use MM/LX as a note taker?
Do you have already notes in the HP's notetaker application which you
want to import into MM/LX?

You simply have to do the following:

gdbio c:\_dat\notes.ndb /n /x > notes.cdf

gsar -sN:032 -r:124:032:032:032:032:032:032:032:032 notes.cdf notes1.cdf
gsar -sD:032 -r:032:032:032:032:032:032 notes1.cdf notes2.cdf

(gsar is a search-and-replace-utility which is available on my homepage
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rexsync under "requirements")

Manually edit the file notes2.cdf, save it as notes.mm and do the
following:

1. Remove all the double-quotes from the note titles, remove categories
etc. (only in each title line)

2. Add the line "   Notes" as the first line of the file, don't leave
away the three leading spaces but leave away the double-quotes.

After that you should be able to open notes.mm with mm/lx!

GTX
daniel

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"The rarity of this phenomenon suggests that Belize's high
temperatures and tropical humidity were crucial."

Documents and human bodies have been known to be preserved for
thousands of years under the right conditions.   Under the wrong
conditions, some of my books have lasted a few years.   Most
sensitive equipment and medicine comes with a label which says
'store in a cool, dry place, away from direct sunlight'.   That
would describe average conditions in most first world countries
(even when I lived in Florida I had air conditioning).   When I
used to live in a tropical country similar to Belize, my cheap
paperback books did not last three years, but my books with high
quality paper are still with me.

Domingo

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Subject: CF cards and eternity


> I have been transfering my "sensitive" parts of the LX from
SRAM to CF
> cards, but someone who's "privacy" is sacrosanct told me that
they too
> become corrupt after a while. To enable my kids one day to
read about all
> those jokes on the LX list I copied everything to CD-roms
because they were
> to be as safe as a time capsule...but Nature magazine's
headline reads:
>  FUNGUS EATS CD!
> "Spores bore holes in compact disks, rendering them useless.
>  27 June 2001 http://www.nature.com/nsu/010628/010628-11.html"

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I have tried MM/LX, and it is very promising.   A few years ago
I posted something about mindmaps when the first Windows
application first came out, I believe I suggested that Andreas
try something with it.   Maybe he took that hint?  Either way
(not to take false credit), one suggestion I have is that the
zoom should allow for a bigger font, with paning.  The biggest
available seems too small for me to do work with it.   For
display pursoses even the smallest font is useful.

The main reason I might not get this program which I really
like, is the screen.   I really need some kind of a backlight,
and David S. is apparently no longer working on one.  Little
flash lights are not the same, though I have looked at Daniel's
light project, and it looks interesting.  But Daniel is no
longer selling his lights (I would not touch a soldering iron if
someone paid me.   Well, maybe.  :-)  I find myself using my lx
only for "real" work which requires a "real" computer with me
all the time.   For most casual purposes I use my Palm, not
because it's better, but because I can see the screen in dim
light (with the backlight).  I have even comtemplated selling my
lx, but I have not because there are certain things which can
only be done with one.   As I am getting a little older, I find
my eyes can no longer struggle with the non backlit screen in
dim light.

I wish there was some good news from somewhere  .  .  .

Domingo

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Domingo wrote:
> The only thing close to a standard for documents that I have
> seen across platforms is html.   Every device I have seen has
a
> way to read standard html easily (though I have yet to see an
> easy way to write it outside of Windows).  Guess how many
people
> do their daily work in that format  .  .  .

Take a small detour in your daily routine to
http://www.dasoft.com click on the MindMap/LX link (top item
on the left gray column) and then check out the product
descrption. As you scroll down, you'll reach a spot talking
about Exporting to HTML. "DO* read what I did to create the
HELP page then click on the link. You may be pleasantly
surprised.

  Avi

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:36:18 -0800 Avi Mesha wrote:
>Question: I press F3 and the screen blinks at me and that's
>that. How can I add a note to an item.
>
>Answer: Check the MM.CFG, specifically
>İSystem¨
>Editor=pe

I was one of those guys who asked the question. Avi, I think you need
to document this requirement a little better. I don't have PE on my
system!

MM/LX looks like a worthwhile product, so I'll go get it.

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A suggestion for MM/LX I have is that when you're using the trial
version, you can't save files, but if you try to access a feature that
would jump to another file, you get the "Save/Abandon" prompt, but
there is no way to cancel from there. So whatever I've typed in up to
that point will be lost, there's no way to cancel.

The choice needs to be "Save/Abandon/Cancel". This was very
frustrating to me while evaluating it, and it seems the evaluation
version is not the one you want to frustrate users.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:05:39 +0200
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Chris,

I couldn't find a suitable answer, so I did ask Andreas, the author of
MM/LX, how he would handle multiple parents to one chaild.

Here is his answer:

> One thought I had, which would probably make the program too complex,
> was to allow multiple "parents" to have the same "child".  Sometimes the
> "logic" of the material being entered into MM/LX has this characteristic.

Allowing multiple fathers is ethically questionable. <G> but mostly, it
is very difficult to handle algorithmically (what to cut if you cut?
Delete if there is still a parent? how to place on screen? etc.).
However, these problems only occur within a single mind map. Across
multiple maps, it is no issue. So what can be done using MM/LX, is to
set an item that has multiple parants as the center of a new map and
link the "two parents" to that map (using Ctrl-M). Thereby, you get
multiple inheritance, but not within a single map.

Andreas
================

Thanks to Andreas.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Daniel,

> >       only results?
>
> What do you mean here?

Do you share all your information or only results? If only results I would
make two mm files to handle it convenient.

This was just a little mm file, which I copied into my original
message. Just played a little with mm/lx <g>.

   do you share your information?
      how and with whom are you sharing it?
      only results?
      do you include notes?


> >       do you include notes?
>
> a lot!

So you will share also your notes?

Just try it, and have a look how nice it looks using a browser on the desktop.

> I haven't done any actual useful work with MM/LX yet, just played
> around and found out what's possible and what not, so I can decide what
> it is really useful for and what not.

I didn't spend that time on evaluation, I just started from the spot.

Kind regards

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Hi

Has anybody heard about this one?

I am on vacation at the moment so I have no access to webpages..but it
sounds interesting. The webpage is probably in norwegian.

Regards

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Anycom bluetooth CF kort!

http://www.casinus.no/

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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> I didn't spend that time on evaluation, I just started from the spot.

Right. Helmuth started using Version 0.1 or 0.2 IN HIS WORK!!!

Maybe his secret name is Helmuth MMLX Guenther? <G>

Definitely "Mr. MM/LX"! :)

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Chris Randle wrote:
> This was a star feature of GrandView (a venerable DOS outliner). It

I used extensively ThinkTank (Daddy of Grandview) and it was
called the same. Very interesting feature. Brought it up
during development and Beta testing of MM/LX. I believe we
could not find a way to maintain the simple format of the base
file.

> I'm off to check out MM/LX now since the whole world seems to be raving
> about it.

ROFL!!! I told 5,000,000 not to exaggerate! <VBG>

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Helmuth, (bcc to Andreas)
>
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:23:36 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@=
ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
>
> > You got just started now and welcome to the club of users who really
> > like this powerful tool. Do you already have any idea of improvement?
>
> Yes: But I don't know if this is relizeable with reasonable effort:
> I would love if mm/lx would show one mm file within another, if they
> are linked. Maybe this should be switchable.

It can.

> >    do you use Crtl-T?
>
> That is the shortcut which calls the above mentioned feature, isn't it?

Uses templates to create a new mindmap within current physical
file.

> >    do you share your information?
>
> not yet. But I am already considering if I will create parts of my
> homepage with MM/LX and its HTML export capability.

Check out the HELP file in our Website. I did NOTHING t it,
just CTRL-P and uploaded it. Looks more than decent.

> >       only results?
>
> What do you mean here?

Do you include the notes, or just the items.

> >       do you include notes?
>
> a lot!
> Thus I am considering if I throw another tiny ans fast text editor on
> my palmtop. PE needs some time to load, and as much as I use notes in
> MMs, this is not ideal. Especailly when collecting notes during
> lectures or meetings.

Interesting idea! Share your results with us, and the notes
you took while trying this out <g>...

> > Since it is new on the hp200lx, I feel I will learn a lot from other
> > users especially the way they use it.
>
> I already have learned a lot and I think there will be much more good
> ideas how to use it!

I see this happening from where I am, lots of emails with
ideas and "Wow! I can do this!" stuff.

> I haven't done any actual useful work with MM/LX yet, just played
> around and found out what's possible and what not, so I can decide what
> it is really useful for and what not.

Share your opinions, please.

> See my other post regarding notes.ndb conversion!

Oh, have not seen this yet.

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Easiest way is to simply change it into *.txt format:

1 Select "Text Select Tool" in Adobe Acrobat.
2 Choose all text you want to change into *.txt
3 Press left mouse button and choose copy.
4 Paste it in your favorite wordprocessor.


Cheers,

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Nathalie,

> To enable my kids one day to read about all
> those jokes on the LX list I copied everything to CD-roms because they =
were
> to be as safe as a time capsule...but Nature magazine's headline reads:
>  FUNGUS EATS CD!
> "Spores bore holes in compact disks, rendering them useless.
>  27 June 2001 http://www.nature.com/nsu/010628/010628-11.html"

Kids ? Are you settling for an ordinary life (g) ?

HP Staber/Salzburg

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When I do this on a catalog with pictures and blocks of text in columns (in
Acrobat Reader 4.0), the text blocks do not paste in the proper order, so
some editing is still necessary. It seems to work better on a straight text
document.

Bob

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Easiest way is to simply change it into *.txt format:

1 Select "Text Select Tool" in Adobe Acrobat.
2 Choose all text you want to change into *.txt
3 Press left mouse button and choose copy.
4 Paste it in your favorite wordprocessor.
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Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:55:50 +1200 (NZT)

07h22m49s ago ...
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:33:01 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Thus I am considering if I throw another tiny ans fast text
> editor on my palmtop. PE needs some time to load,

A couple of months agao I noticed PE on my machine getting
slower to start - it was due to me not having cleaned out my
"C:\TMP" directory. I used that as "TmpDir" for all
applications, and it had over 100 files in.

- Tony

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<On the soap box>
<Jets On>

I just got my ass kicked because a 3 hours and 3 minute
response was deemed by his "highness" to be too slow. And rude
too! Yuck... I wonder if he is on the list reading this.
Please don't kick my shins, I am trying to help you, let me,
or I'll kick your shins back. <G>

<jets off><off the box>

Thank all for the bandwidth <g>...

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Would not a smartclip format be easier ... but thanks for the file format
info.


Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> Said:

Hi friends,

Do you want to use MM/LX as a note taker?
Do you have already notes in the HP's notetaker application which you
want to import into MM/LX?

You simply have to do the following:

....


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İThis is scary; Avi is obviously unfamiliar with serious success.  Heh.
Hey, when Curtis Cameron himself steps up with even HALF an endorsement, you
know it has to be good.  Be proud.  But more importantly, be ready.  My
order is coming.¨


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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:39:00 -0800

<On the soap box>
<Jets On>

I just got my ass kicked because a 3 hours and 3 minute
response was deemed by his "highness" to be too slow. And rude
too! Yuck... I wonder if he is on the list reading this.
Please don't kick my shins, I am trying to help you, let me,
or I'll kick your shins back. <G>

<jets off><off the box>

Thank all for the bandwidth <g>...

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Hi Curtis, Avi, Andreas?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:30:20 -0500, Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> wrote:

> The choice needs to be "Save/Abandon/Cancel". This was very
> frustrating to me while evaluating it, and it seems the evaluation
> version is not the one you want to frustrate users.

Yes, that would really be good. Even in the full version. I sometimes
press ESC once too often and get into that choice. I now can only quit
MM, either with or without saving. But I cannot get back into my map.

GTX
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hi Avi,

on 11 Jul 2001, at 21:36 Avi Meshar wrote about:
Creating Notes for MM/LX

> Now save MM.CFG, and try that F3 again.
>
> One guy found out himself, the other may have found out too,
> by now! <G>...

thank you Avi for not telling the whole world that this was me <G>

Werner


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Hello all,

>Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>(The only choice? ;-) That's an oxymoron, isn't it?)

Obviously you were born in West Germany, else you would be comfortable
with the iron curtain reality: there were elections (actually all of
them) where you had the choice to vote for a single candidate.

>Werner Furlan dr. wrote about bus timetables:

I find it uncomprehensible. I mean the idea that any correlation
between data on papers (often called timetable) and the actual arrival
of a public transportation vehicle exist, is highly hypothetic. In my
experience, PTI (public transportation infrastucture) corresponds to
laws of quantum mechanics. It may come or may not, but you cannot
calculate it or predict in advance and most of the vehicles cannot
ever be seen to the human eye, anyhow.

(BTW, we just bought 70 used trams from Hannover for use in Budapest,
Hungary. I will check if these behave any different, say observe
general Relativity instead of Q.M. So getting home feels like endless
hours, because time slows down when the tram goes faster).

Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Hi Martin,

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:09:41 -0700, Martin Crundall <ac6rm@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Would not a smartclip format be easier ... but thanks for the file format
> info.

I am not sure tis can be done with a smartclip. But if it can, please
report!
Every note line had to have a | at the beginning. So the smartclip
would have to be able to process the notes line by line, I think.

GTX
daniel

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> CF cards can hold the data as long as you want,
> they don't suffer from light or other influences.
> The life limitation they have is based on access
> cycles. AFAIK, about one milino access cycles
> for each data unit is guaranteed.  But if you simply
> put the data onto the CF and don't access it anymore,
> it should be safe many, many years.

Actually flash cards are safer than that.  Repeated writes (not
reads) do wear them out but wearing out means that writes get
slower and slower until writes time out.  Only the ability to
write to it is harmed.

They can still be read unless corruption occured during a failed
write.

The latest information from Sandisk that I've heard is that you
can expect 4,000,000 writes.  That was a couple of years ago and
it may have been improved since then.

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Out of the blue, it stops working - when I use "F9-Search", it returns with
nothing even though the text is right there. I tried the obvious fixes -
download a brand new copy, delete ffdb2.env, export and import the same file
again, etc - all to no avail. This is very frustrating since I've transferred
all my notes from the built-in application to FFDB...

I know the author isn't supporting this package anymore - anyone has some
suggestions?

Thanks.

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What did you change within a few days of this happening?

Domingo

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> Out of the blue, it stops working - when I use "F9-Search", it
returns with
> nothing even though the text is right there. I tried the
obvious fixes -
> download a brand new copy, delete ffdb2.env, export and import
the same file
> again, etc - all to no avail. This is very frustrating since
I've transferred
> all my notes from the built-in application to FFDB...
>
> I know the author isn't supporting this package anymore -
anyone has some
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ron
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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> hi Avi,
>
> on 11 Jul 2001, at 21:36 Avi Meshar wrote about:
> Creating Notes for MM/LX
>
> > Now save MM.CFG, and try that F3 again.
> >
> > One guy found out himself, the other may have found out too,
> > by now! <G>...
>
> thank you Avi for not telling the whole world that this was me <G>

You and the other person admitted to be one of them. But I
think no one knows who figured it out for himself <G> .... My
lips are sealed. If you two want to disclose this fact -
coordinate it between you two! <g>

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Hi Curtis,

Curtis Cameron wrote:
> A suggestion for MM/LX I have is that when you're using the trial
> version, you can't save files, but if you try to access a feature that
> would jump to another file, you get the "Save/Abandon" prompt, but
> there is no way to cancel from there. So whatever I've typed in up to
> that point will be lost, there's no way to cancel.

This is exactly the same in all versions, registered or not.
It is the limitation of unregistered. Similar to 16K
transmission max in WWW/LX, one email only in Post/LX and so
on. Later today you'll get you registration info and this
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Curtis, Avi, Andreas?
>
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:30:20 -0500, Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> =
wrote:
>
> > The choice needs to be "Save/Abandon/Cancel". This was very
> > frustrating to me while evaluating it, and it seems the evaluation
> > version is not the one you want to frustrate users.
>
> Yes, that would really be good.

Not at all. The limitation will remain for unregistered
versions.

> Even in the full version. I sometimes
> press ESC once too often and get into that choice. I now can only quit
> MM, either with or without saving. But I cannot get back into my map.

In my MM/LX (which is different but in the same areas) I can
change a mindmap then press Escape. Mm/LX asks me if to save
yes/no. I say no. It is not sure I am really sane enough to
make that decision and asks if I am sure and presents me with
a Save or Abandon choices. If I pick Abandon, my change is not
retained.

What do you have?

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Martin Crundall wrote:
> Would not a smartclip format be easier ... but thanks for the file =
format
> info.

You can easily do it.

Still, in both approaches you need to add some
"infrastructure". Indent the note name by 6 spaces, and make
the note part a "note" per MM/LX, i.e.

      note #1
!        this is the text of the note itself.
|        second line of that note.


  Avi M. İD&A¨
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PS: Re familarity with success: That guy was looking for
TimeTracker/LX help. We are keeping up with MM/LX orders, and
they are fun - many many come with emails that talk about the
ideas. I see brightly lit eyes and it makes me VERY pleased
that we could spark some thinking.

All that the guy told me is he got the program, with no
instructions, it does not work. Oh, and he was lucky he did
not have to depend on me for life-daving help. :(

He admitted in a later email that he is a certified İi cannot
repeat the word, Al Kind will ban me from the list for life!¨
<G>.

We are now working on his problem. So far he is miles ahead,
program is up but he missed a step.

Still he is a cussing little tough barnacle. But some "thanks"
and "please" have begun to sneak into his vocabulary. I think
he'll mellow out, then I'll drag him here. He has what seems
to be a heck of a character under that gruff exterior. Should
be a fun person yo have here. (Maybe he is already here
reading all this? Oh no, now he knows I think he is kinda cute
after all! :-¨ )

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Feher Tamas wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> >Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> >(The only choice? ;-) That's an oxymoron, isn't it?)
>
> Obviously you were born in West Germany, else you would be comfortable
> with the iron curtain reality: there were elections (actually all of
> them) where you had the choice to vote for a single candidate.

In kapitalistic USA we are moving towards that reality too!
Microsoft will soon be the one choice.

In the history of Automobiles, Henry Ford was famous for
saying on the subject of color choices: You can have my
automobile in any color you want as long as it is black.

Maybe the Iron Curtain Komrades and Apparatchiks learned from
good ol' kapitalistic Henry Ford a lesson or two?

The funny thing about history is that lessons of the pas t
_do_ prepare you well for the relities of tomorrow.

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Hi Tamas,

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:43:40 +0200, Feher Tamas <etomcat@2FKFT.COM> wrote:

> >Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> >(The only choice? ;-) That's an oxymoron, isn't it?)
>
> Obviously you were born in West Germany, else you would be comfortable
> with the iron curtain reality: there were elections (actually all of
> them) where you had the choice to vote for a single candidate.

...or not to vote at all. No vote is also a vote, I think.

I didn't say that the east Germany government was NOT an oxymoron ;-)
I am from western Germany, and I was 13 years old when the Berlin wall
fell. From that moment on I heard about all these eastern oxymorons.
Germany still suffers from them. I don't know about other Countries in
eastern Europe.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

I have had this a few times before, but now (after reconfiguring SC for
a new work area for MM/LX ;-) ) the problem doesn't disappear after a
few reboots, as it did before.

I added a work are, changed the size of another, and adjusted the size
of the resource pool with help of the sizer.wk1 123 spreadsheet.

Now when I start SC, the first switching into every work area is as
fast as usual (about 3 seconds, I have the swap file on a sompletech
96MB CF card), but if I switch between already started work areas, it
is terribly slow (about 7-10 sec).

Does anyone know what could cause that behaviour?

I HAVE taken care that the disk optimizer creates a contigouus space
for the swap file!

GTX
daniel

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Hi Tony,

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:31:13 +1200, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> A couple of months agao I noticed PE on my machine getting
> slower to start - it was due to me not having cleaned out my
> "C:\TMP" directory. I used that as "TmpDir" for all
> applications, and it had over 100 files in.

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is not the reason.
PE isn't slower than normal, but it generally takes about 1-2 seconds
to come up and if you frequently want to insert notes into your MM,
this can be a little annoying. That's my personal opinion.
And since a very simple editor should be fully sufficient for these
notes, I'll look for one.
I'll let you know when I have found one. :-)

GTX
daniel

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Feher Tamas wrote:
>
> >Werner Furlan dr. wrote about bus timetables:
>
> I find it uncomprehensible. I mean the idea that any correlation
> between data on papers (often called timetable) and the actual arrival
> of a public transportation vehicle exist, is highly hypothetic.

Werner lives close to Switzerland. In Switzerland you can synchronize
your watch according to the arrival/departure times of public
transportation :)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Now when I start SC, the first switching into every work area is as
> fast as usual (about 3 seconds, I have the swap file on a sompletech
> 96MB CF card), but if I switch between already started work areas, it
> is terribly slow (about 7-10 sec).

I thought the swap file wasn't recommended on a flash card due
to slower writes compared to ram disk?

I create a 4M block of expanded memory on my T2T 32M drive and
tell SC to swap from there.  I believe this is the fastest
swapping method.

> I HAVE taken care that the disk optimizer creates a contigouus space
> for the swap file!

Good, this also needs to be done when creating the T2T EMS file.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:40:27 +1200
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Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:31:55 +1200 (NZT)

01h45m15s ago ...
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:46:40 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I'll let you know when I have found one. :-)

Hi Daniel,

The Semware Editor (called E.EXE) might save that second at
startup - it works in non-graphical mode. I just checked, and
yes it is even quicker than Calvin VI to start.

- Tony

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> The Semware Editor (called E.EXE) might save that second at
> startup - it works in non-graphical mode. I just checked, and
> yes it is even quicker than Calvin VI to start.

If small size equqls fast start then try T.EXE the Tiny editor;
only 10k.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:03:19 -0400
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On May 27, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> "At least hundreds, if not thousands of Webloggers and other Netizens =
spent
> the past year rooting for 19-year-old Kaycee Nicole, who was battling
> leukemia and chronicling her incredible efforts online ...
> Only one problem: There was no Kaycee Nicole."
> http://www.msnbc.com/news/576899.asp

to point out a terrible hoax that was cast upon the Internet.
This is a very sad and disturbing story that such a thing was
happening at the very same time that my niece, Emily, was going
through it for real!!

Emily died of leukemia on June 27th at the age of 9.  Her fight
with the disease and the tremendous support from her friends
and family is cronicled on her web site journal and guestbook.
Emily's father (my brother Dave) has told me that this web
site, and the others like it (through Rainbow of Hope), are an
invaluable support channel for the family of these very sick
children.  He does not know how he would have been able to be
strong for Emily without the kind words and support that so
many people gave on Emily's web site.

I was not going to bring up this personal tragedy on this list,
but since Nathalie mentioned the hoax story, I wanted to show
that there really is such a thing as kids dying of leukemia and
web sites to support them that are doing real positive things
for the friends and families affected.

And I would also like to thank everyone who has visited Emily's
web site and posted their support in the guestbook.  The book
is still open and all visiters are encouraged to say something.
 Please follow the link to the LightTheNight organization for
information about participating in thier nationwide evening
walk to raise money for The Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.

www.caringbridge.com/page/emiann

Thank you

Emily's Uncle Stan

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Date:         Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:18:00 -0500
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re:
> ... I was 13 years old when the Berlin wall fell.

Ouch. *NOW* I feel old; thanks Daniel <grin>.

....... I was an American Army Officer, serving in LOGISTICS, in Western
Germany when the wall officially fell..... A friend accused me of "stalking"
major world events because I went to "Desert Storm," during all that mess;
was in Germany for the end of the wall and seemed to be in the "right neck
of the woods" for many international events...... i.e., Sarajevo during some
critical negations, etc......

ANYWAY........ I *don't* think Germans are strange..... Enjoyed my years
there...... The only "strange" thing was a GREAT (available) diet of beers
and "fatty" foods that *should* have caused health problems, but didn't....
Maybe German beer can keep cholesterol "dissolved" in the blood stream, in a
state where it can't adhere to the artery walls...... 'Least I hope so
<grin>.

The "LX-Relevant" portion of this is that the phone book function of my LX
was an INCREDIBLE database for media relations in Sarajevo..... I wish I had
an LX earlier in my life (I might then have had more time to explore more of
the possibilities provided by the LX-platform).

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Helmuth, Guenther, Ed and ALL, thanks for the congrats - you'll get a free
checkup when you visit ... just download your registration number from
NATSOFT and wait in line ... :)

Barry wants to know:
 >As to enjoying anouncments of new life, that's quite natural but
 >in today's greatly overpopulated world, doesn't it worry you?

how did you know? yes, it does, and i had wondered for some time why i can't
sleep properly! now i know - it's Al Bush stunk at the Kyoto Protocol!

 >'ER' is a popular medical drama show here in the U.S.
as well as in Europe ... sooo funny to hear them speak French :)

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Hallo everybody on the list,

does someone have an idea where to dowload Lotus123 version what
would it be 2 or 3 the one which works with our LX. I'm
interestes in the PC Version to train myself on 123 on the the
pc. Or does someone would be willing to mail the requires files?

Thanks for help, Michael Berrier

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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:16:48 +1000
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Hi all

I've just discovered my beloved 8MDS has the right hinge crack. I have a
spare 2MB model I could use if I send away to have it fixed by Thaddeus. I
was wondering if anyone could give me the addy's of the "fix" sites and how
successful these fixes are.  ie will it buy me 6 weeks/months or years?

TIA

Russell

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On 13 Jul 2001, at 23:08, HP Staber wrote:

> > I find it uncomprehensible. I mean the idea that any correlation
> > between data on papers (often called timetable) and the actual
> > arrival of a public transportation vehicle exist, is highly
> > hypothetic.
>
> Werner lives close to Switzerland. In Switzerland you can synchronize
> your watch according to the arrival/departure times of public
> transportation :)
>
where is Werner: http://map.findu.com/oe9fwv
exactly 2.5 km from the Swiss (or more exactly: Liechtenstein)
border. The country I live is called Austria (Mozart, not Kanguruhs)
Our busses in Feldkirch have an electronic timetable built in and
their clocks are synchronized when they pass certain points of their
course. They are late sometimes, because of traffic jam, but usually
they are in time. At least the clock in the bus is. Atomic time. ;-)

The LX part of the story is: My LX is also in time. It is
synchronized with my network using this command when I log in.
net time \\pentium /set /yes
(and \\pentium is synchronized when I use the intenet - for those of
you who are still suspicious)

and the sad part is: still no timetable on the LX, because creating
the database manually was too time consuming. My bus travel to the
hospital where I work is only 15 minutes and in summer I always use
the bicycle.

cheers,
Werner


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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:22:52 -0400
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Hi all,

on Quinton Jones Website I've found the description and screenshot of
"TaskBar", but the link to the website is dead. I searched on
northernlight.com without usefull result. Can anyone tell, if the
hplx-taskbar is still alive?

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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On 13 Jul 2001, at 8:42, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> > The choice needs to be "Save/Abandon/Cancel". This was very
> > frustrating to me while evaluating it, and it seems the evaluation
> > version is not the one you want to frustrate users.
>
> Yes, that would really be good. Even in the full version. I sometimes
> press ESC once too often and get into that choice. I now can only quit
> MM, either with or without saving. But I cannot get back into my map.
>
I agree.

Werner



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Hi,

I noticed Daniel's remark about the black contact layer (graphite?) on
the keyboard foil. Has somebody ever found a way to repair this black
stuff?

Background: When diagnosing a malfunctioning key, I found that a little
spot is missing (off-centric); the black surface partly dissapeared.
After reassembling, the key works better then before, but still not
perfect. I assume this "improvement" is because of a slightly different
positioning. However, I expect this situation to become worser.

Any idea how one can repair such a surface. It must be thin,
electrically conducting to a certain degree, and flexible.

Norbert


Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > As Daniel told me, I cleaned all key contacts with a cotton
> > swab soaked in contact spray. I cleaned both sides, the plasic
> > foil with the "bubbles" and the silver foil. On the bubble side
>
> I have the impression that every solvent or contact spray doesn't only
> CLEAN the contacts but also removes the black contact layer (graphite?)
> if you wipe too intensive. So better stop wiping if you think the dirt
> is washed away, don't wait for the cotton swab to stop becoming black
> :-)

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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:38:21 -0400
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Hey eveyone.  I was just wondering if there was any specific maximum size
for flash cards in the hp 100/200lx's.  Thanks!

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Hi!

    I too noticed this.  I do have an idea as to how to replace the alleged
graphite.  If it is graphite, then well...couldn't you maybe grind up some
pencil graphite into dust and somehow with glue or in some other non
damaging way put it in the position required?  Good luck!

                                                                Morris
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> Hi,
>
> I noticed Daniel's remark about the black contact layer (graphite?) on
> the keyboard foil. Has somebody ever found a way to repair this black
> stuff?
>
> Background: When diagnosing a malfunctioning key, I found that a little
> spot is missing (off-centric); the black surface partly dissapeared.
> After reassembling, the key works better then before, but still not
> perfect. I assume this "improvement" is because of a slightly different
> positioning. However, I expect this situation to become worser.
>
> Any idea how one can repair such a surface. It must be thin,
> electrically conducting to a certain degree, and flexible.
>
> Norbert
>
>
> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> >
> > > As Daniel told me, I cleaned all key contacts with a cotton
> > > swab soaked in contact spray. I cleaned both sides, the plasic
> > > foil with the "bubbles" and the silver foil. On the bubble side
> >
> > I have the impression that every solvent or contact spray doesn't only
> > CLEAN the contacts but also removes the black contact layer (graphite?)
> > if you wipe too intensive. So better stop wiping if you think the dirt
> > is washed away, don't wait for the cotton swab to stop becoming black
> > :-)
>
> --
> Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen
>
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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:27:56 -0400
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>>    I too noticed this.  I do have an idea as to how to replace
>>the alleged
>>graphite.  If it is graphite, then well...couldn't you maybe grind up some

two thoughts a small piece of tin foil glued over the vacant area or if you
know someone that works in printing they may use what I call silver tape,
this is a very thin tape that is used to mask negatives I believe it is
conductive

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To all of you who celebrate Bastille Day, or just the day off
- happy day! Happy Bastille Day, or la Fjte de la Fidiration,
whichever you celebrate.

I am on vacation having a nice time in Northern California.
Nice and quiet. The stock market was kind to the company I
recently worked for when the value of its shares climbed up
18%+ per day in several days now.

MM/LX can be credited with only part of it, the rest is politics
in the International Olympic Cmte, granting Beijing the 2008
Olympiad :-( That will be a royal mess. You can barely move in
the city in rush hours now. I cannot imagine more smog and
more people trying to move between venues. Their plans are
nice on paper, but the $20b they allocated will not scratch it
much, besides, a large chunk of the mooney will line the
pockets of some key people, not go to work.

I am skeptical they can lift such a project in style. Maybe in
the collective, communist style such as banning citizens from
Beijing, and making their life miserable and hellish for
several months, but that may not sit well with the visitors.
We'll see.

Maybe the Chinese masses should adopt the courage of the
French back in 1789 and change the political system to their
benefit.

   Joe S


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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:55:21 -0700
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I am a little confused about the requirement Curtis and Daniel
brought and Werner agrees with.

The limitation of the unregistered program is here to stay,
let's not talk about it. Please just accept it like the
limitations in WWW/LX Version 3 prior to registration. This
keeps us in business, and you in good programs! <G>

So let's see: In your registered MM/LX you make changes to
mindmap A. Then you want to load map B. Map A, with the
changes, either must be saved, or not saved. If you want to
save your work, press Save. If not, choose to abandon the
changes you made - your choice.

MM/LX must make room for Map B. The only issue is if the
changes you made in Map A should be kept nor not.

Just for a little mind exercise: What would be the meaning of
"cancel"?

   - Would it cancel the save - that is covered by "abandon".

   - Would it cancel going to another map?

     There are two ways to do it: just decide between going
     there

     + AFTER saving your work (by pressing SAVE)  or

     + without saving your work (choose Abandon)

     In any case, just return to Map A after Map B shows up
     again - press ESC for that..

I am questioninig if there is any other meaning to the CANCEL
choice. I would love to understand this requirement.

Thanks, Werner, Daniel, Curtis and others. This is a heck of
good discussion! I am so amaed about the brain power on this
list!

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Date:         Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:42:14 -0500
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I have seen 123 release 2.4 on ebay sometimes.  You would get the
manuals which are a great help.  Install and set up in text mode and you can
become comfortable with the program as it looks on the palmtop.

I have some extras I would sell.   $35 plus shipping for a still sealed copy on
3.5" disks.

Or here is one on Ebay (5.25" disks) - I don't know the guy so bid at your
own risk

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1253882465

Mike
> Hallo everybody on the list,
>
> does someone have an idea where to dowload Lotus123 version what
> would it be 2 or 3 the one which works with our LX. I'm
> interestes in the PC Version to train myself on 123 on the the
> pc. Or does someone would be willing to mail the requires files?
>
> Thanks for help, Michael Berrier
>
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From: "Russell Hemery"
> I've just discovered my beloved 8MDS has the right hinge crack. I have a
> spare 2MB model I could use if I send away to have it fixed by Thaddeus. I
> was wondering if anyone could give me the addy's of the "fix" sites and
how
> successful these fixes are.  ie will it buy me 6 weeks/months or years?

http://www.hplx.net/hardware.hinge.html

This works!

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hi Avi,

On 14 Jul 2001, at 17:55, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Just for a little mind exercise: What would be the meaning of
> "cancel"?
>
>    - Would it cancel the save - that is covered by "abandon".
>
>    - Would it cancel going to another map?
>
>      There are two ways to do it: just decide between going
>      there
>
There could be a third way.
Cancel quit - before leaving the program.
Maybe to be switched off and on in mm.cfg like this:
quit_without_cancel = 0ff / on

Werner




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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> hi Avi,
>
> On 14 Jul 2001, at 17:55, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:
>
> > Just for a little mind exercise: What would be the meaning of
> > "cancel"?
> >
> >    - Would it cancel the save - that is covered by "abandon".
> >
> >    - Would it cancel going to another map?
> >
> >      There are two ways to do it: just decide between going
> >      there
> >
> There could be a third way.
> Cancel quit - before leaving the program.

What about Abandon and quit - this does the same!

I think we are in semantics: Maybe Andreas should just replace
the word "abandon" with "Cancel" - that seems to be what you
want, and what Cameron talked about to begin with. Cancel
means - do not save, and do whatever the command was: switch
maps, or quit. (the same as what abandon is doing now.)


> Maybe to be switched off and on in mm.cfg like this:
> quit_without_cancel = 0ff / on

I am unclear what _new_ function this will bring. Tell me
exactly what the difference is between abandon and cancel.

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hi Tony,

you are right. Thats what I was looking for...
I should have studied the cfg better..

txs for the hint,
Werner


On 15 Jul 2001, at 22:32, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:28:33 +1200 (NZT)
>
> Hi Werner,
>
> Have this in MM.CFG
>
> İSystem¨
> ESCquits=0
>
> Regards, Tony
>
> 02h31m34s ago ...
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 09:56:59 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>
> > There could be a third way.
> > Cancel quit - before leaving the program.
> > Maybe to be switched off and on in mm.cfg like this:
> > quit_without_cancel = 0ff / on
> >
> > Werner
>



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Hi,

I think some have solved this already: To enrich the WorldTime
application, I am looking for a simple page to look up city coordinates,
where I just type the name of a city and get back its coordinates.

Thanks, Norbert

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I run my 200lx with a 20MB pcmcia memory card, i use to store/swap a bunch of APL programs
that i use whilst trading on the NYMEX.

PFA comes on a card and, apparently, the card must be in the slot in order to run PFA.

I've tried copying all the files on the PFA card  over to the root directory of the 20mb card, no dice,
wont work.

It's a pain to keep switching cards, and inevitably i find myself at the NYMEX with one of the cards
at home İso i shouldn't  trade or i shouldn't eat¨ . Any suggestions?

thanks for taking the time
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Hi Norbert,

On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:25:52 +0100, Norbert Giese <Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> Any idea how one can repair such a surface. It must be thin,
> electrically conducting to a certain degree, and flexible.

I don't know if such stuff exists, but I could imagine there is a kind
of graphite spray available. If this is available, make a hole as large
as such a graphite spot into a piece of paper, place that hole exactly
above the damaged spot and spray a little bit of the graphite onto the
hole.

Just an idea - try Conrad Electronic or Segor (addresses on my
homepage).

GTX
daniel

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Hi Avi,

On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:55:21 -0700, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Just for a little mind exercise: What would be the meaning of
> "cancel"?
>
>    - Would it cancel the save - that is covered by "abandon".
>
>    - Would it cancel going to another map?
>
>      There are two ways to do it: just decide between going
>      there
>
>      + AFTER saving your work (by pressing SAVE)  or
>
>      + without saving your work (choose Abandon)
>
>      In any case, just return to Map A after Map B shows up
>      again - press ESC for that..

We are meaning the latter.
Of course you could simply save the current map, let MM quit (or load
another map, in your example) and go manually back to the first map.
But that way has two disadvantages:

1. It is more work than necessary (for us, not for Andreas ;-) ).

2. It is dangerous: If you go upwards in the levels of your mind map
and press ESC ONCE too often, it will ask
"save" or "abandon". So you still have a way to save and return to the
current map.
If you press it TWICE too often, still no catastrophe, since you can
save.
If you press ESC three times too often, your map is lost forever.
If ESC would not do an "abandon", but a "cancel", i.e. return to the
previous dialog or screen, such things CANNOT happen.
BTW, every standard program under Windows or DOS behaves that way.
I don't want to say that MM/LX is a stadard program :-) But it should
be "usage-compatible" to them, I think.

Andreas designed PE exactly the same way first, but after some of us
(me included) asked him to add a cancel button, he did it, and now I
loose much less data than before.
For me, such a cancel button would be important.


> I am questioninig if there is any other meaning to the CANCEL
> choice. I would love to understand this requirement.

Of course, if you are always careful pressing keys and if you aren't
used to that "ESC=cancel" stuff, you will be happy with the way MM/LX
interprets ESC. But for me - and for others too, it seems - it is a
little bit difficult.




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Hi Avi,

On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 02:13:06 -0700, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> I think we are in semantics: Maybe Andreas should just replace
> the word "abandon" with "Cancel" - that seems to be what you

NO!! Please don't! :-¨
It is something totally different!

Abandon LEAVES MM without saving
Cancel would go back into the current map (also without saving, of
course).

Please go to a Windows box (or DOS), start an editor, write something
into it, and give the quit command.
You will probably be asked if you want to save first.

Now press ESC.
The editor will probably go back into your text, and will NOT quit
without saving. (PE now does it this way too).

That is what I meant in my last mail. We are used to that behaviour, so
it would be good if MM/LX would also behave that way.

Did I explain well enough? If not, please let me know.

TNX
daniel

P.S.: I just read about the suggestion Tony sent to Werner:
The ESCquits=0 of course is a good prevention of quitting by accident,
but it is still not the solution: If you say "menu""file""exit" and
press ESC twice, data is still lost. If you make the above mentioned
"editor exercise", you sill see that the data is still there.

Don't get me wrong: I can live without a cancel button. But it simply
would be nice if MM/LX would follow that quasi-standard.

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On Monday, 09.07.2001 at 21:07 GMT, Donald Puscher  wrote:
> I'm a firm believer in packing check-lists. Having traveled
> for business
> and now with a kid, it is essential that I remember what to
> pack AND what
> not to pack. The 200LX is great for this.
>
> I used to keep a entry in NoteTaker with a long list in the
> note section.
> This was okay, but it was hard to see everything and meant a
> lot of
> scrolling around. Now I think I've hit on a better solution.
>
> I've copied my checklist out of NoteTaker and into a text
> file I can open
> in PALEdit. From there I set up each suitcase/object I need
> to pack as a
> level 1 heading. Under each heading, using +(, I list what
> should be
> packed. For example:
>
> +(Fanny Pack
>    -sunglasses
>    -wallet
>    -money
> +(Suitcase
>    -swim suit
>    -socks
>    +(Kit Bag
>      -toothbrush
>      -comb
>      -aspirin
>
> After a thing is packed, I change the "-" to a "+". Then I
> press CTRL+C,
> enter a "-", tab to "Using Records," use the default "+(" as
> the record
> delimiter, and press "OK." (This should probably be a macro.)
>
> Now only the things that haven't been packed show. The
> entries that have a
> "+" are "hidden" and I can see at a glance what I still need
> to pack.
>
> This still isn't perfect. If I expand a suitcase that has
> items checked
> off, those items are no longer hidden and I have to re-enter
> outline mode
> to refresh the view.
>
> I also tried importing the file into MM/LX and it worked
> great. Mind Map
> also has a "check-off" feature that allows you to do the same
> thing and, of
> course, has an even more visual display.
>
> Anyone else have a way of keeping simple checklists?
>
Sorry to pour water into your wine (and to appear as a heretic on this
list),
but compared to HandyShopper 2.0 for the Palm Pilot, this appears quite
primitive. HandyShopper (which is freeware) is an outstanding tool for
shopping lists and also for packing lists. I use it for both purposes.

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Hi all

Further to my recent hinge crack message (thanks for replies so far) I was
wondering how easy it would be to disassemble 2 palmtops and swap the
screens? I recall seeing a site that describes exactly how to disassemble
the LX but cant seem to find it again..somewhere on the webring I think?

My reasoning is I've wanted to upgrade my 2MB model for a while...so my
thoughts are to swap the good screen from 2MB to cracked 8MB, then send 2MB
for repair and upgrade while having an as new 8MB.

Any info /thoughts would be appreciated.

TIA

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> Sorry to pour water into your wine (and to appear as a heretic
on this
> list),
> but compared to HandyShopper 2.0 for the Palm Pilot, this
appears quite
> primitive. HandyShopper (which is freeware) is an outstanding
tool for
> shopping lists and also for packing lists. I use it for both
purposes.

My thoughts  exactly, except for one thing:  the presentation of
ideas for things other than lists in MM/LX is superior, in my
opinion.   I use HandyShopper as well for every kind of list,
but for serious poking around with my brain the presentation
style of MM/LX is compelling, IMO.  There is a mindmapper
program for the Palm, but it is primitive by comparison.
As you can see, I am torn between two worlds.  :-)

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Norbert;
Have a look at:
http://www.3m.com/US/mfg_industrial/adhesives/html/tapes_for_bonding.jhtml
Conductive tapes mey be useful...Bulent

--- Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> Hi Norbert,
>
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:25:52 +0100, Norbert Giese
> <Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
>
> > Any idea how one can repair such a surface. It
> must be thin,
> > electrically conducting to a certain degree, and
> flexible.
>
> I don't know if such stuff exists, but I could
> imagine there is a kind
> of graphite spray available. If this is available,
> make a hole as large
> as such a graphite spot into a piece of paper, place
> that hole exactly
> above the damaged spot and spray a little bit of the
> graphite onto the
> hole.
>
> Just an idea - try Conrad Electronic or Segor
> (addresses on my
> homepage).
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Hi Avi and others

is there a way to delete a whole tree in mindmap/lx?
If you have an item which has children, and you delete it, the children
are moved into the level where the item was before its deletion.
Is there a way to delete an item including all its children?

If not, it would be an important improvement, I think.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:55:21 -0700 Avi Meshar wrote:
>The limitation of the unregistered program is here to stay,
>let's not talk about it. Please just accept it like the
>limitations in WWW/LX Version 3 prior to registration. This
>keeps us in business, and you in good programs! <G>

What I meant was that there should be three choices:
  1. Save the file, go to new map.
  2. Abandon changes, go to new map.
  3. Cancel going to new map.

Like Daniel said, this is the standard way for programs to work
nowadays. With MM/LX, it's easy to hit ESC too many times, and having
a "cancel" option, which would be selected by the ESC key, is the
logical way for it to work.

Though you don't want to talk about it, I'll bring up the evaluation
period again. Please read this and consider what I'm saying, because I
don't think you have been so far. When I was evaluating WW/LX (I've
pruchased it now), I wanted to create a test map, and see how easy it
was to navigate around and how useful it would be as a way of
brainstorming ideas. So I entered twenty or so items, linked together
in three or four branches. I wanted to keep this around for a couple
of days to add items to it. Then I tried playing with a menu item to
add a linked map, or something similar, and it prompted me to Save or
Abandon. I knew that I couldn't save, and I didn't want to lose
everything I had typed in, so I wanted to just cancel and get back to
where I was, but that wasn't a choice, so I had to abandon and then
later enter all that data again. If this weren't my own palmtop, I
would have thrown it across the room, it was so frustrating. The only
reason that I kept going past this point was that I felt I had a
vested interest in the palmtop community.

When someone evaluates your software, you want for them to learn to
like it, not frustrate them. You want to get them hooked, almost
dependent on your software, then make them pay to keep using it. It's
OK to prevent saving files, but throwing away what progress they've
made so far just because they hit a wrong key while trying to
understand the utility is not the way to increase your orders.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Abandon LEAVES MM without saving
> Cancel would go back into the current map (also without saving, of
> course).

I totally agree with Daniel.

Before I got my licence, I thought: well, this is a limitation of the
unlicensed product I have to accept.

But after my MM/LX was licenced, it happened several times to me by
prssing "esc" that I changed my mind and I did neither want so save the
map nor did want to give up my work, but I wanted to change or continue
my open map.

So the 'cancel' button is necessary saying 'I want to continue with the
current map'.

Like this there is still the same limitation for the unlicensed product,
but it helps a lot to the fully functional MM/LX.

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Daniel,

> Hi Avi and others
>
> is there a way to delete a whole tree in mindmap/lx?
> If you have an item which has children, and you delete it, the children
> are moved into the level where the item was before its deletion.
> Is there a way to delete an item including all its children?
>
> If not, it would be an important improvement, I think.

That is how DEL is defined, see HELP.

If you will delete an item including all its children, the please use
CUT. Please see HELP.

This also provides PASTE <g>.

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hi Norbert,

on 15 Jul 2001, at 14:23 Norbert Giese wrote about:
Simple pages for looking up city coordinates?

> I think some have solved this already: To enrich the WorldTime
> application, I am looking for a simple page to look up city coordinates,
> where I just type the name of a city and get back its coordinates.

Did you try the superbe service of Mike Kopplin at
http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html
You type City and Country, and you get a map with coordinates centered on
the city.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:45:37 -0500
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I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware business.
You can read about it at
http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-11-Psion-Leavin
g-Handheld.html

Here's the first couple of paragraphs:

"BBCNews.com is reporting that Psion has announced that it is
going to exit the handheld market. Psion is seeing its devices
struggle to compete with rival machines running the Palm OS or
Microsoft's Windows CE/Pocket PC operating system, and as a
result they have restructured the company in what they describe
as "a move up the value chain."

"According to the reports the announcement effectively kills any
plans to release a new Psion device with Bluetooth capabilities.
David Levin, chief executive at Psion, says that "Bluetooth is
late on the uptake and much smaller than anticipated." The
market for Bluetooth devices has not grown as expected, but a
Psion spokesperson says that the company may consider a return
to the Bluetooth market if demand were to increase."

"Psion maintains that the company will continue to support the
current devices, and they also have plans to continue selling
the current machines. A company spokesperson said that the
company has no intention of leaving its consumers high and dry."

Another article implied they were no longer manufacturing new
machines but were selling off their inventory.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:48:12 -0600
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***Disclaimer: I haven't tried any of the suggestions that follow, so use at
your own risk!***

I wouldn't use conductive tape: it is too thick, too expensive, and might
come loose.

The graphite sprays I am aware of are lubricants, not paints, and would not
work. If you wanted to experiment with graphite, I would spray a on dot of
3M spray adhesive (using a stencil-like mask), then dust on some powdered
graphite (available for lubricating locks -- get the type without any
solvent) and then carefully burnish the graphite smooth, using something
like a hard plastic rod. The back end of a Bic pen might work, for example.

I haven't tried this, but I know you can buy markers with conductive
ink/paint, which are used for drawing circuit board traces. If applied
thinly and carefully, this might work.

Bob Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: Bulent Bicioglu İmailto:bulentbicioglu@YAHOO.COM¨
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 5:56 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Keyboard repair


Norbert;
Have a look at:
http://www.3m.com/US/mfg_industrial/adhesives/html/tapes_for_bonding.jhtml
Conductive tapes mey be useful...Bulent

--- Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> Hi Norbert,
>
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:25:52 +0100, Norbert Giese
> <Norbert_Giese@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
>
> > Any idea how one can repair such a surface. It
> must be thin,
> > electrically conducting to a certain degree, and
> flexible.
>
> I don't know if such stuff exists, but I could
> imagine there is a kind
> of graphite spray available. If this is available,
> make a hole as large
> as such a graphite spot into a piece of paper, place
> that hole exactly
> above the damaged spot and spray a little bit of the
> graphite onto the
> hole.
>
> Just an idea - try Conrad Electronic or Segor
> (addresses on my
> homepage).
>
> GTX
> daniel

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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:37:25 -0400
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I found the FFDB program to be a little buggy myself. It seemed to currupt databases. It would have been a great program if it
worked as intended. I think the source code has been released.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of
> Domingo
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: FFDB Woes (v. 2.02)
>
>
> What did you change within a few days of this happening?
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Zhang" <Ron.Zhang@SUN.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:33 PM
> Subject: FFDB Woes (v. 2.02)
>
>
> > Out of the blue, it stops working - when I use "F9-Search", it
> returns with
> > nothing even though the text is right there. I tried the
> obvious fixes -
> > download a brand new copy, delete ffdb2.env, export and import
> the same file
> > again, etc - all to no avail. This is very frustrating since
> I've transferred
> > all my notes from the built-in application to FFDB...
> >
> > I know the author isn't supporting this package anymore -
> anyone has some
> > suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ron
> >
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For anyone deeply attached to dying platforms, a recent Psion can be
gotten at Tigerdirect for $100, see:


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=mako

They also have 56K modems for $60...

Enjoy,

Ken

Barry wrote:

> I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware business.
> You can read about it at
> http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-11-Psion-Leavin
> g-Handheld.html
>
> Here's the first couple of paragraphs:
>
> "BBCNews.com is reporting that Psion has announced that it is
> going to exit the handheld market. Psion is seeing its devices
> struggle to compete with rival machines running the Palm OS or
> Microsoft's Windows CE/Pocket PC operating system, and as a
> result they have restructured the company in what they describe
> as "a move up the value chain."
>
> "According to the reports the announcement effectively kills any
> plans to release a new Psion device with Bluetooth capabilities.
> David Levin, chief executive at Psion, says that "Bluetooth is
> late on the uptake and much smaller than anticipated." The
> market for Bluetooth devices has not grown as expected, but a
> Psion spokesperson says that the company may consider a return
> to the Bluetooth market if demand were to increase."
>
> "Psion maintains that the company will continue to support the
> current devices, and they also have plans to continue selling
> the current machines. A company spokesperson said that the
> company has no intention of leaving its consumers high and dry."
>
> Another article implied they were no longer manufacturing new
> machines but were selling off their inventory.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:09:33 -0400
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How come I cannot find an hplx for that price?  :-)

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Hansen" <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Psion giving up


> For anyone deeply attached to dying platforms, a recent Psion
can be
> gotten at Tigerdirect for $100, see:
>
>
>
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?k
eywords=mako
>
> They also have 56K modems for $60...
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Ken
>
> Barry wrote:
>
> > I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware
business.
> > You can read about it at
> >
http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-11-Psion-Leavin
> > g-Handheld.html
> >
> > Here's the first couple of paragraphs:
> >
> > "BBCNews.com is reporting that Psion has announced that it
is
> > going to exit the handheld market. Psion is seeing its
devices
> > struggle to compete with rival machines running the Palm OS
or
> > Microsoft's Windows CE/Pocket PC operating system, and as a
> > result they have restructured the company in what they
describe
> > as "a move up the value chain."
> >
> > "According to the reports the announcement effectively kills
any
> > plans to release a new Psion device with Bluetooth
capabilities.
> > David Levin, chief executive at Psion, says that "Bluetooth
is
> > late on the uptake and much smaller than anticipated." The
> > market for Bluetooth devices has not grown as expected, but
a
> > Psion spokesperson says that the company may consider a
return
> > to the Bluetooth market if demand were to increase."
> >
> > "Psion maintains that the company will continue to support
the
> > current devices, and they also have plans to continue
selling
> > the current machines. A company spokesperson said that the
> > company has no intention of leaving its consumers high and
dry."
> >
> > Another article implied they were no longer manufacturing
new
> > machines but were selling off their inventory.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
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Hi Helmuth

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:54:01 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

>
> That is how DEL is defined, see HELP.
>
> If you will delete an item including all its children, the please use
> CUT. Please see HELP.
>
> This also provides PASTE <g>.

Not such a bad idea, thanks ;-)

But what happens if the tree I want to delete doesn't fit into the
clipboard memory? How large is that memory?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Russell,

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:55:06 +1000, Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> Further to my recent hinge crack message (thanks for replies so far) I was
> wondering how easy it would be to disassemble 2 palmtops and swap the
> screens? I recall seeing a site that describes exactly how to disassemble
> the LX but cant seem to find it again..somewhere on the webring I think?

www.hplx.net links to that page somewhere. I don"t recall exactly the
URL.

> My reasoning is I've wanted to upgrade my 2MB model for a while...so my
> thoughts are to swap the good screen from 2MB to cracked 8MB, then send 2MB
> for repair and upgrade while having an as new 8MB.

Swapping screens is possible, but you must disassemble the ENITRE
machine.

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:46:56 -0700
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> > That is how DEL is defined, see HELP.
> >
> > If you will delete an item including all its children, the please use
> > CUT. Please see HELP.
> >
> > This also provides PASTE <g>.
>
> Not such a bad idea, thanks ;-)
>
> But what happens if the tree I want to delete doesn't fit into the
> clipboard memory? How large is that memory?

I was playing with this a bit. If you hide the children (Alt-H
or was it Ctrl-H) then delete it does it do what you want?

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long live 200LX !!
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:45 PM
Subject: Psion giving up


> I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware business.
> You can read about it at
>
http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-11-Psion-Leavin
> g-Handheld.html
>
> Here's the first couple of paragraphs:
>
> "BBCNews.com is reporting that Psion has announced that it is
> going to exit the handheld market. Psion is seeing its devices
> struggle to compete with rival machines running the Palm OS or
> Microsoft's Windows CE/Pocket PC operating system, and as a
> result they have restructured the company in what they describe
> as "a move up the value chain."
>
> "According to the reports the announcement effectively kills
any
> plans to release a new Psion device with Bluetooth
capabilities.
> David Levin, chief executive at Psion, says that "Bluetooth is
> late on the uptake and much smaller than anticipated." The
> market for Bluetooth devices has not grown as expected, but a
> Psion spokesperson says that the company may consider a return
> to the Bluetooth market if demand were to increase."
>
> "Psion maintains that the company will continue to support the
> current devices, and they also have plans to continue selling
> the current machines. A company spokesperson said that the
> company has no intention of leaving its consumers high and
dry."
>
> Another article implied they were no longer manufacturing new
> machines but were selling off their inventory.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 03:16:11 +0800
Reply-To:     Larry Feldman <lfeldman@USA.COM>
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I know we are all familiar with the hinge crack on the case TOP, but wonder if many have experienced this:

On the BACK of the unit, on the back edge, there is a thin strip of plastic runing the length of the unit from left to right. This is neither the top or the bottom, but the back of the unit. I've had several units where this strip has cracked.

Most recently, my last unit, purchased "new" from Thaddeus, right before the HP was discontinued, developed this crack after 16 months. HP replaced the unit under Express Exchange (I had the contract extension), but it seems that these units are literally falling to pieces....


Regards,

Larry Feldman

HP100/200 user since '96

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Russell,
I would think that it would be easier to exchange the motherboards than to
exchange the displays.  Saves having to disassemble and reassemble that
tricky right hinge.  Take the 8MB motherboard out of the broken LX and place
it in the good LX.  Install the 2MB motherboard in the broken LX and then
pack it off to Thaddeus for a major overhaul.  While removing the
motherboard is not easy, it's got to be easier than that hinge.  Or maybe I
am missing something?
Later,
bob

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:55:06 +1000, Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
wrote:

> Further to my recent hinge crack message (thanks for replies so far) I was
> wondering how easy it would be to disassemble 2 palmtops and swap the
> screens? I recall seeing a site that describes exactly how to disassemble
> the LX but cant seem to find it again..somewhere on the webring I think?

> My reasoning is I've wanted to upgrade my 2MB model for a while...so my
> thoughts are to swap the good screen from 2MB to cracked 8MB, then send
2MB
> for repair and upgrade while having an as new 8MB.

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Thanks, work great!


Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> Did you try the superbe service of Mike Kopplin at
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:03:34 -0700
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Josef Meyer wrote:
> But after my MM/LX was licenced, it happened several times to me by
> prssing "esc" that I changed my mind and I did neither want so save the
> map nor did want to give up my work, but I wanted to change or continue
> my open map.

So why didn't you save, go to the other map, then come back?
You DID OT have to give up your work - you can save with your
licensed version.

> So the 'cancel' button is necessary saying 'I want to continue with the
> current map'.

Unconvincing to me, because you could save!

> Like this there is still the same limitation for the unlicensed product,
> but it helps a lot to the fully functional MM/LX.

What limitation? Sorry Josef, I do not understand what you
mean.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:33:06 -0700
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Avi is obviously unconvinced that some of the most influential palmtop users
and hackers on the planet have a valid point.  My guess is that if he
actually passed this on to the programmer, he'd see the point immediately
and add it in a second.  I mean, you're talking about -- what, maybe ten
lines of code? (another button and some "break me out of this loop" code).

If anyone's taking votes, I see a requirement for the "cancel" button as
well.

...< avi said >...

Josef Meyer wrote:
 > But after my MM/LX was licenced, it happened several times to me by
 > prssing "esc" that I changed my mind and I did neither want so save the
 > map nor did want to give up my work, but I wanted to change or continue
 > my open map.

So why didn't you save, go to the other map, then come back?
You DID OT have to give up your work - you can save with your
licensed version.

 > So the 'cancel' button is necessary saying 'I want to continue with the
 > current map'.

Unconvincing to me, because you could save!

 > Like this there is still the same limitation for the unlicensed product,
 > but it helps a lot to the fully functional MM/LX.

What limitation? Sorry Josef, I do not understand what you
mean.

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My 2 cents.

There is a cost to change any program, including revision
control and updates to all involved. This idea may be a fair
concept for an enhancment, but may have to be incorporated in
the next programming sequence. Possibly this "cancel" idea could
be phrased as a "wish list" item?

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting Since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
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      Avi is obviously unconvinced that some of the .....

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>>clipboard memory? How large is that memory?

clipboard size is adjustable in setup not sure of the max size

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Hi,
   Any Derive users out there that can help? I purchased Derive for DOS from
Soft Warehouse in 1997 and loaded it onto a SRAM card; it worked great then
(got me through 2 semesters of calculus before I switched to Mathematica).
    I recently lost everything on my C drive, but the SRAM card is fine. Yet
Derive doesn't run. I get an "undefined function internal error; contact
Soft Warehouse" error message.
   Anyone know what the problem might be? I've listed the directory of my
SRAM card below, so if anyone has Derive on their machine for comparison,
please let me know.

David Goldstrom

CALCULUS DMO        1,674       08-30-96 12:00p
DERIVE   HLP          47,735        04-21-96 12:00p
DERIVE16 COM       50,609        05-26-97 12:00p
DERIVE16 SYS      260,794        05-26-97 12:00p
DIF_APPS MTH         2,706        10-19-94 12:00p
ENGLISH  MTH             681        11-09-90 12:23p
EXP_INT  MTH              401        10-19-94 12:00p
FUNCTION DMO         3,141        08-30-96 12:00p
METRIC   MTH              908         11-09-90 12:23p
MISC     MTH               1,831       04-23-97 12:00p
EULERMAC MTH           481        02-02-97 12:00p
DERIVE16 EXM             496         08-11-97  9:20p
RIEMANN  BAK             185        08-14-97  8:54p
RIEMANN  MTH             187        08-14-97  9:02p
SOLVE    MTH             1,079       05-06-96 12:00p
NUMERIC  MTH           1,532       11-29-96 12:00p
TRIG     DMO              1,904        08-30-96 12:00p
INT_APPS MTH          2,221        10-19-94 12:00p
        18 file(s)        378,565 bytes

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Thanks Paul.

Systems-Consulting wrote:
> My 2 cents.
>
> There is a cost to change any program, including revision
> control and updates to all involved. This idea may be a fair
   ...
> be phrased as a "wish list" item?

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I got the dreaded hinge crack a couple of years ago. I used
Loctite Plastix Advanced Plastic Bonder (Item # 82565) to fix it
and, even though it doesn't look all that great, it has held
very well, I haven't had any further problems with it, and isn't
noticeable unless you are looking directly at it.

(See:
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/RepairsProjects/RepairsProjects.asp?qfid=2&Product=212)

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 >Thus I am considering if I throw another tiny ans fast text editor
 >on my palmtop. PE needs some time to load, and as much as I use
 >notes in MMs, this is not ideal. Especailly when collecting
 >notes during lectures or meetings.

PE not only takes time, but lots of memory and will run only with MAXDOS on
my LX

 >The Semware Editor (called E.EXE) might save that second at startup
 >- it works in non-graphical mode. I just checked, and yes it
 >is even quicker than Calvin VI to start.

my test results:
LE.EXE (Laplink Editor v. 4a)  - takes 3 seconds
Q.EXE (QEdit v. 2.1) - takes half a second!

both don't need MAXDOS

and to Dr. Werner Furlan's "thank you Avi for not telling the whole world
that this was me <G>"

what is the big deal about not knowing path statements in autoexec.bat? some
of us here have other specialties, like Doctors and Lawyers. Not everyone is
a DOS-programmer, or had their first computer in the decade where 64k was
the speed limit  - in the same context it would be unethical for me to try
to shame Avi into thinking he had lack of knowledge about the medical
consequences of obesity (over-weight) İvbg¨ !

Nat ER/MD testing MM/LX, a gift from a suitor

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Martin and all:

What I was hoping to read and get from the list is more
feedback on the reasons why the cancel is so needed. Curtis
wrote it based on programming standards, and basically wanting
escape in the Demo mode without losing stuff he already did..
Daniel added that the same dialog is in the registered
version, and agreed with Cucurtis. Josef agreed. Martin ran me
to the ground (a little...) <G> (btw, I _am_ a programmer <g>)
...

What you (Martin and others) do not know is that I suggested
in the beta a way to do exactly what the users asked for, but
also accomplish D&A's goals. Mine was not the only one.

So I am not in the "other" camp. But what I think we need here
is to understand why you get into these "traps" to begin with,
for example: Why is it so easy, or seems easy, for you to get
into a link or quit without wanting to save? Is it something
that is inherent in the command structure? Maybe it should
change. Maybe there are other reasons. Also, when I say that
we want to do what the customers want, do we really understand
you? Do you really articulate clearly what it is that you
want? Probably not, and it takes a bit of interaction to "get
it" just right. And it may take one or two tries for us to
"get it" just right too.

I realize the impatience you (Martin) have, but that is just
misplaced. Maybe we can come up with a better solution, much
much better. Hammering on the vendor and putting me down is a
waste of energy in this context. I appreciate the "vote", but
probably it would be more useful to tell the reason behind
your vote. Just because every programmer would get it is not a
reason I can hang code on.

Let me give you an example: Someone wrote a good reason in
private. It was the loss of time in saving, linking, then
returning to the original page.

There are other potential problems with such an action, or?

Anyway, my questions were perhaps "dumb" sounding, but I also
do not want to influence Josef's feedback, or yours, should
you decide to attach it to your vote.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com



Martin Crundall wrote:
> Avi is obviously unconvinced that some of the most influential palmtop users
> and hackers on the planet have a valid point.  My guess is that if he
> actually passed this on to the programmer, he'd see the point immediately
> and add it in a second.  I mean, you're talking about -- what, maybe ten
> lines of code? (another button and some "break me out of this loop" code).
>
> If anyone's taking votes, I see a requirement for the "cancel" button as
> well.

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28m18s ago ...
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:50:07 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> my test results:
> LE.EXE (Laplink Editor v. 4a)  - takes 3 seconds
> Q.EXE (QEdit v. 2.1) - takes half a second!

Yup that Q.EXE is an earlier version of "The Semware Editor".
Even the bigger versions of TSE start just as fast.

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> and to Dr. Werner Furlan's "thank you Avi for not telling the whole world
> that this was me <G>"
>
> what is the big deal about not knowing path statements in autoexec.bat? some
> of us here have other specialties, like Doctors and Lawyers. Not everyone is
> a DOS-programmer, or had their first computer in the decade where 64k was
> the speed limit  - in the same context it would be unethical for me to try
> to shame Avi into thinking he had lack of knowledge about the medical
> consequences of obesity (over-weight) İvbg¨ !

No big deal. I just did not think it was my place to post
anyone's name, especially if they can post it themselves. The
lesson was good to post for everyone. I also posted that one
figured it out because I used that information.

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>Subject: Speaking of hinge cracks
>   Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 03:16:11 +0800
>   From: Larry Feldman <lfeldman@USA.COM>
>
>I know we are all familiar with the hinge crack on the case TOP, but wonder if many have experienced
>this:
>
>On the BACK of the unit, on the back edge, there is a thin strip of plastic runing the length of the
>unit from left to right. This is neither the top or the bottom, but the back of the unit. I've had
>several units where this strip has cracked.

Goodness, I seem to have this crack. It's on the card slot side
of the back just under the left hinge.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the loose screen?
The screen is very loose through a small (less than 5 degrees)
arc then seems to be fine. The left hinge seems to shift
vertically by a fraction of a millimeter as I wiggle the screen.
The crack does not seem to change as I wiggle the screen.
I don't like it but I'm not convinced it will be any better if I
take it apart (I do have a spare LX).


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Avi,

> What I was hoping to read and get from the list is more
> feedback on the reasons why the cancel is so needed. Curtis
> wrote it based on programming standards, and basically wanting
> escape in the Demo mode without losing stuff he already did..
> Daniel added that the same dialog is in the registered
> version, and agreed with Cucurtis. Josef agreed. Martin ran me
> to the ground (a little...) <G> (btw, I _am_ a programmer <g>)
> ...

The information, the feed back here was excellent. I am sure you, Avi,
have saved them and you will pass them to beta for further discussions.

I, personally wouldn't expect a major release the next few days or
weeks.

Kind regards

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On 16 Jul 2001, at 20:09, David Goldstrom wrote:

>    Any Derive users out there that can help? I purchased Derive for
>    DOS from
> Soft Warehouse in 1997 and loaded it onto a SRAM card; it worked great
> then (got me through 2 semesters of calculus before I switched to
> Mathematica).
>     I recently lost everything on my C drive, but the SRAM card is
>     fine. Yet
> Derive doesn't run. I get an "undefined function internal error;
> contact Soft Warehouse" error message.
>    Anyone know what the problem might be? I've listed the directory of
>    my
> SRAM card below, so if anyone has Derive on their machine for
> comparison, please let me know.

> DERIVE   HLP          47,735        04-21-96 12:00p
> DERIVE16 COM       50,609        05-26-97 12:00p
> DERIVE16 SYS      260,794        05-26-97 12:00p

It looks like you're running Derive 4.0.  Many of us run 3.0 so we
may not be able to help much.  I don't even have the same
executables (mine  are from 1995).

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> Josef Meyer wrote:
> > But after my MM/LX was licenced, it happened several times to me by
> > prssing "esc" that I changed my mind and I did neither want so save the
> > map nor did want to give up my work, but I wanted to change or continue
> > my open map.
>
> So why didn't you save, go to the other map, then come back?
> You DID OT have to give up your work - you can save with your
> licensed version.

Yes, you are right, it IS possible to do what I want. But please take
anyhow our proposal and arguments (coming from Daniel, Curtis, many
others) into considerations. We are working intuitively and
straightforward and in my opinion (I am sure also other list member's)
a 'cancel' button related with the 'esc' key is the intuitive way.
Sometimes we type 'esc' and immediately after we change our mind and
decide to continue to work on the open map.

> > Like this there is still the same limitation for the unlicensed product,
> > but it helps a lot to the fully functional MM/LX.
>
> What limitation? Sorry Josef, I do not understand what you
> mean.

With limitation I meant not to be able to save maps in the
unregistered product.

Josef Meyer

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Hi Mike,

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:46:56 -0700, Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU> wrote:

> I was playing with this a bit. If you hide the children (Alt-H
> or was it Ctrl-H) then delete it does it do what you want?

Alt-H.

Yes, indeed. It does it. Thank you! :-)
I see: Everything is possible with MM/LX, even if it is not documented.

GTX
daniel

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08h47m29s ago ...
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:09:26 -0400, David Goldstrom wrote:

> Anyone know what the problem might be? I've listed the
> directory of my SRAM card below, so if anyone has Derive
> on their machine for comparison, please let me know.

I can't see DERIVE.EXE. Did you need that?

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On Sunday, 15.07.2001 at 21:33 GMT, Domingo wrote:

> My thoughts  exactly, except for one thing:  the presentation
> of
> ideas for things other than lists in MM/LX is superior, in my
> opinion.   I use HandyShopper as well for every kind of list,
> but for serious poking around with my brain the presentation
> style of MM/LX is compelling, IMO.  There is a mindmapper
> program for the Palm, but it is primitive by comparison.
> As you can see, I am torn between two worlds.  :-)
>
So am I, and I expect that to stay this way for quite some time.

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Daniel,

> Alt-H.
>
> Yes, indeed. It does it. Thank you! :-)
> I see: Everything is possible with MM/LX, even if it is not documented.

The longer you will use MM/LX, the more you will find how flexible MM/LX
is. It does *not* force you to strike the keys in a given sequence. So it
is up to you to document the way you use MM/lX.

Kind regards

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> >>    I too noticed this.  I do have an idea as to how to replace
> >>the alleged
> >>graphite.  If it is graphite, then well...couldn't you maybe grind up some
>

Presuming it is graphite:

Graphite spray is available in some electronics components shops (in
Australia at least), I've got some myself, its an excellent way to make
a huge conductive mess if you aren't careful. Of course this has never
happened to me....Maybe you could spray a bit out, then quickly brush a
thin layer on to the bit you need, before it dries.

Graphite powder is often available in hardware stores, typically used
for things like padlocks. I've also got some of this handy, I could do
a rough check on just how conductive it is, but I suspect a normal glue used
to bind it may act as an insulator. I would be careful about unleashing
any conductive powder in my LX !

Printed circuit repair pens are a bit harder to find, basically its a
pen that has a conductive ink, silver in colour (eh, silvers no colour
I know). I've never used it, it may tarnish incredibly fast and be
unsuitable.

Paul Johnson

> two thoughts a small piece of tin foil glued over the vacant area or if you
> know someone that works in printing they may use what I call silver tape,
> this is a very thin tape that is used to mask negatives I believe it is
> conductive
>

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The Subject line says it all . . . . . .

I was wondering if anyone on the list knew of software hat would allow one
to run MS-DOS programs on a PALM or Win-CE platform?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Corso, Tony İmailto:tcorso@SITHE.COM¨
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:31 AM
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: DOS emulator for WINCE or PALM


The Subject line says it all . . . . . .
I was wondering if anyone on the list knew of software hat would allow one
to run MS-DOS programs on a PALM or Win-CE platform?
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DOS emulator for WINCE or PALMHi Tony, check these sites out:

http://www.penreader.com/cedos.htm

http://www.total.net/~hkonstas/trgdos.html

http://www.pocketdos.com/

http://www.xt-ce.com/

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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:28:29 -0400
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DOS emulator for WINCE or PALMFor Palm there are DOS fake
programs, but no emulator (pointless, not powerful enough).

Domingo
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Subject: DOS emulator for WINCE or PALM


The Subject line says it all . . . . . .
I was wondering if anyone on the list knew of software hat would
allow one to run MS-DOS programs on a PALM or Win-CE platform?
T

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Psion giving up


> long live 200LX !!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:45 PM
> Subject: Psion giving up
>
>
> > I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware
business.
> > You can read about it at
> >
>
http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-11-Psion-Leavin
> > g-Handheld.html
> >
> > Here's the first couple of paragraphs:
> >
> > "BBCNews.com is reporting that Psion has announced that it is
> > going to exit the handheld market. Psion is seeing its
devices
> > struggle to compete with rival machines running the Palm OS
or
> > Microsoft's Windows CE/Pocket PC operating system, and as a
> > result they have restructured the company in what they
describe
> > as "a move up the value chain."
> >
> > "According to the reports the announcement effectively kills
> any
> > plans to release a new Psion device with Bluetooth
> capabilities.
> > David Levin, chief executive at Psion, says that "Bluetooth
is
> > late on the uptake and much smaller than anticipated." The
> > market for Bluetooth devices has not grown as expected, but a
> > Psion spokesperson says that the company may consider a
return
> > to the Bluetooth market if demand were to increase."
> >
> > "Psion maintains that the company will continue to support
the
> > current devices, and they also have plans to continue selling
> > the current machines. A company spokesperson said that the
> > company has no intention of leaving its consumers high and
> dry."
> >
> > Another article implied they were no longer manufacturing new
> > machines but were selling off their inventory.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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I fixed my hinge crack two years ago using epoxy glue. I have had no further
trouble since.
If anyone would like more details don't hesitate to ask.

Werner Furlan who saw the repair was impressed by its neatness and solidity.

Malcolm Shewan

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On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:46:56 -0700, Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU> wrote:
>
> > I was playing with this a bit. If you hide the children (Alt-H
> > or was it Ctrl-H) then delete it does it do what you want?
>
> Alt-H.
>
> Yes, indeed. It does it. Thank you! :-)
> I see: Everything is possible with MM/LX, even if it is not documented.

Oops, sorry, maybe not. Avi tells me the children return when
you save the map. I guess Cut is the proper way.

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:18:25 +1200 (NZT)
>
> 28m18s ago ...
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:50:07 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>
> > my test results:
> > LE.EXE (Laplink Editor v. 4a)  - takes 3 seconds
> > Q.EXE (QEdit v. 2.1) - takes half a second!
>
> Yup that Q.EXE is an earlier version of "The Semware Editor".
> Even the bigger versions of TSE start just as fast.

I recall someone mentioned a tiny editor, named TED. It
is less than 4K. Would that work?

  Avi

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:46:56 -0700, Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU> wrote:
>
> > I was playing with this a bit. If you hide the children (Alt-H
> > or was it Ctrl-H) then delete it does it do what you want?
>
> Alt-H.
>
> Yes, indeed. It does it. Thank you! :-)
> I see: Everything is possible with MM/LX, even if it is not documented.

If you believe you removed the branch you just hid with Alt-H
by using DEL, then i suggest that you hit the SAVE, and look
again.

Definition of DEL (from HELP): Will remove the highlighted
item. Will promote its children.

To do what you want, i.e. cut the branch: Use CTRL-X. Helmuth
already explained the benefits too.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:27:43 -0700
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Hi Josef,

Before I respond, is the message below about the unregistered
version as you seem to indicate at the end?

  Avi M. İD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

Josef Meyer wrote:
> Avi Meshar wrote:
> > Josef Meyer wrote:
> > > But after my MM/LX was licenced, it happened several times to me by
> > > prssing "esc" that I changed my mind and I did neither want so save the
> > > map nor did want to give up my work, but I wanted to change or continue
> > > my open map.
> >
> > So why didn't you save, go to the other map, then come back?
> > You DID OT have to give up your work - you can save with your
> > licensed version.
>
> Yes, you are right, it IS possible to do what I want. But please take
> anyhow our proposal and arguments (coming from Daniel, Curtis, many
> others) into considerations. We are working intuitively and
> straightforward and in my opinion (I am sure also other list member's)
> a 'cancel' button related with the 'esc' key is the intuitive way.
> Sometimes we type 'esc' and immediately after we change our mind and
> decide to continue to work on the open map.
>
> > > Like this there is still the same limitation for the unlicensed product,
> > > but it helps a lot to the fully functional MM/LX.
> >
> > What limitation? Sorry Josef, I do not understand what you
> > mean.
>
> With limitation I meant not to be able to save maps in the
> unregistered product.
>
> Josef Meyer
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:04:26 -0600
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Any suggestions on an AA charger that is

 - Somewhat fast
 - Works off a 12V cigarette lighter adaptor
 - Charges both NiMH and NiCAD (alkalines would be nice too)

Bob

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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:08:37 -0600
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I would like to be able to convert back and forth on the LX:

 - Township, Range, State
 - Longitude and latitude

Any ideas?

Bob

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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:17:42 -0700
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Avi;

   On a personal note, I appologize if I've beaten you up.  Fact is, MM/LX
is an outstanding addition to the LX.  It continues DASOFT's legacy of
producing innovative and exceptionally useable products.

   For me, the modification fills two purposes: (1) saves time, as has
already been pointed out; (2) allows me to maintain, unmodified, the
automaticity associated with LX software control and use in general (i.e. it
means it acts just live every other program within the woof and warp of it's
basic user interface).  This has an added benefit of allowing me to focus on
the task/outline/brainstorm at hand without having to "think" too hard about
the user interface.  The author has already considered this -- F2 (the
universal ADD button) for new child, the DEL key for deletions, etc.  It's a
VERY intuitive program for an LX user.  This one ESC characteristic at the
top of a map is the one exception that I have come across so far.

   Adding a cancel to the esc dialog at tree root also follows the logic
throughout the rest of the program, actually.  See dialog for "sibling."
Note the cancel button?  The cancel button could just have easily been left
out, whereupon the user would be forced to ADD and then delete.

   Hope this helps clarify.

   Martin


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From: Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: MM/LX: Save/Abandon and Cancel, too?
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:16:50 -0700

Martin and all:

What I was hoping to read and get from the list is more
feedback on the reasons why the cancel is so needed.

..<snip>..

Martin ran me
to the ground (a little...) <G> (btw, I _am_ a programmer <g>)
...

What you (Martin and others) do not know is that I suggested
in the beta a way to do exactly what the users asked for, but
also accomplish D&A's goals. Mine was not the only one.

..<snip>..

   Avi M. İD&A¨
   http://www.dasoft.com



Martin Crundall wrote:
 > Avi is obviously unconvinced that some of the most influential palmtop
users
 > and hackers on the planet have a valid point.  My guess is that if he
 > actually passed this on to the programmer, he'd see the point immediately
 > and add it in a second.  I mean, you're talking about -- what, maybe ten
 > lines of code? (another button and some "break me out of this loop"
code).
 >
 > If anyone's taking votes, I see a requirement for the "cancel" button as
 > well.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:19:32 PST
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From:         Danny Gaudenti <gaudent@QNET.COM>
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Hi all,

Does anybody know where I can get a connector that plugs into the serial port
on the 200LX?  I could buy a cable and cut off the end I need, but it would
be much cheaper if I could just get the connector.

Thanks much,

Danny

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"Corso, Tony" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font size=-1>I was wondering if anyone on the list
knew of software hat would allow one to run MS-DOS programs on a PALM or
Win-CE platform?</font></blockquote>
There are several dos emulators for the win ce platform.&nbsp; They are
chip specific.....</html>

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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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New Torshiba big drive
wont woik on da LX but maybe yor laptop

Dig this...
http://www.cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe/2000/roof/change.pop/frameset.exclude.html

yor pal al..............


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Hi Folks,

Thank you all for the feedback on the MM/LX way of
Save/Abandon/Cancel. Many of the Beta testers are present
here, and in fact participated in "The Great Debate" <G>...

I assure you the discussion inside the Beta on this issue is
intense. But that's the process, and we have been through it
before several times, usually helping Andreas to bring out
reasonably nice software <g>...

As a result of the discussion here and other discussions,
several ideas came up, and we are dealing with them. Even a
version or two of Beta code made available to the beta. We are
exploring several routes, and the fun part (us pressuring
Andreas to do what we think is right! <G>) begins now.

We certainly will let you all know when come up with
something. Something will definitely come out. Depepnding on
what our discussions yield, maybe even soon.

For me, Andreas and the rest of the Beta, THANK YOU! All the
best!

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Am I the only one getting tired of HTML posts?

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Hi Folks, I just switched to digest form, hopefully "more
easier" to read messages here. However, I am aware that
sometimes people ask questions here, but I may not be able to
see messages for some time. So if no reply kindly remail to

   info@dasoft.com

Thanks.

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Once in a while people have to reload their (Windows) system,
for one reason or another (I have had to do it three times this
year).   When this is done one forgets to reset everything back
to the way it was before.   Plus, I noticed that Outlook doesn't
warn you that, even though you have "Send" set to text, if you
are responding to an html message, it will be sent html.  I
almost replied to Tony's message in html when I saw his apology,
then realized that my reply did not quite look like pure text (I
have found not setting for this behavior).   Emailing uncle Bill
about Outlook's defaults and problems would be more effective
than flames here, I think.

Domingo

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> <html>
> unreadable txt buried in HTML tags
> </html>
>
> Am I the only one getting tired of HTML posts?
>
> (sigh...)  Russ
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 >The Semware Editor (called E.EXE) might save that second at startup
 >- it works in non-graphical mode. I just checked, and yes it
 >is even quicker than Calvin VI to start.

a German list member just sent me AVI.COM to use with MM/LX. It is very fast
to load! He seems to have written in 1995. (haven't yet checked DAsoft's
website if Avi made his masterpiece available there)

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Hi all,

Does anybody know where I can get a connector that plugs into the serial
port
on the 200LX?  I could buy a cable and cut off the end I need, but it would
be much cheaper if I could just get the connector.

Thanks much,

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Date:         Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:47:30 -0500
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I have another small suggestion for future versions of MM/LX. If there
are several children items to a parent, then when you use the
left/right keys to move from the parent to a child, it would be nice
to jump to one of the children in the middle instead of to the first
one. For example, if there are five children, jump to number three,
the middle one. If there are an even number, jump to the one just
above the mid-point. That's how I'd do it, anyway. You can get to
where you want with fewer keystrokes on average.

Another suggestion is that if you have children on both the left and
right sides of the main, central item, and you're currently at the
left-bottom one, the down key should take you up to the top-right one,
and vice-versa. For items that are just stacked vertically, they
should wrap so that if you're on the bottom and you hit the down key,
you'll go to the top one.

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hi Tiki,

on 17 Jul 2001, at 20:28 Malcolm Shewan wrote about:
Hinge Crack

> I fixed my hinge crack two years ago using epoxy glue. I have had no further
> trouble since. If anyone would like more details don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Werner Furlan who saw the repair was impressed by its neatness and solidity.
>
> Malcolm Shewan
>
thats true. He did it very well.



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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:19:32 PST
> From:    Danny Gaudenti <gaudent@QNET.COM>
> Subject: comm connector
>
Danny,

I have just what you want - an unterminated serial connector.  Make me
an offer off list.

Stuart
srtgray at clara.net

> Hi all,
>
> Does anybody know where I can get a connector that plugs into the
serial port
> on the 200LX?  I could buy a cable and cut off the end I need, but it
would
> be much cheaper if I could just get the connector.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Danny
>
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MULTIPLE-MAP FILES:

1.  Is there a way to delete an individual map from a file that contains
more than one map?  The only way I was successfully able to do this was to
use a text editor on the .mm file.

2.  If linking to an individual map in a multiple-map file, is the whole map
file read into memory, or just the individual map linked to? (which leads
onto the question of whether or not I should better manage my memory by
breaking these multiple-map files into individual map files).

PROGRAM STARTUP:

1.  I am currently starting MM/LX from with Application Manager with the
command line:

   a:\bin\mm\mm.exe|200

Most of the time this doesn't present a problem, but (a) means I can't also
play Freecell; (b) I set it to 200k because at 150 I was hanging on F3
İnote¨ (it's a pretty severe hang, too -- sometimes requiring CTRL-SHIFT-ON
to recover, but mostly a CTRL-ALT-DEL).  Is there a better way to do this?

Tks.

Martin

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:28:59 -0700
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Hi Curtis,

Curtis Cameron wrote:
> I have another small suggestion for future versions of MM/LX. If there
> are several children items to a parent, then when you use the
> left/right keys to move from the parent to a child, it would be nice
> to jump to one of the children in the middle instead of to the first
> one. For example, if there are five children, jump to number three,
> the middle one. If there are an even number, jump to the one just
> above the mid-point. That's how I'd do it, anyway. You can get to
> where you want with fewer keystrokes on average.

Interesting idea. We had so much troubles with the movement
(esp. your truly! I earned lots of black marks from Andreas
asking about these things over and over, until I was too
confused to ask again! <G>) I'll ceetainly make sure Andreas
sees this.

> Another suggestion is that if you have children on both the left and
> right sides of the main, central item, and you're currently at the
> left-bottom one, the down key should take you up to the top-right one,
> and vice-versa.

Sort of as if we are dealing with "columns", reaching the bottom
of the left "column" and continuing at the top of the right
"column", right?  (there are of course no columns, it is just
a way to visualize what you suggest...)

Thanks. I'll take both items and make sure Andreas, and Beta
see them.  Thank you!

  Avi

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Martin Crundall wrote:
> MULTIPLE-MAP FILES:
>
> 1.  Is there a way to delete an individual map from a file that contains
> more than one map?  The only way I was successfully able to do this was to
> use a text editor on the .mm file.

That's about it.

> 2.  If linking to an individual map in a multiple-map file, is the whole map
> file read into memory, or just the individual map linked to? (which leads
> onto the question of whether or not I should better manage my memory by
> breaking these multiple-map files into individual map files).

Dunno. Will ask Andreas.

> PROGRAM STARTUP:
>
> 1.  I am currently starting MM/LX from with Application Manager with the
> command line:
>
>    a:\bin\mm\mm.exe|200
>
> Most of the time this doesn't present a problem, but (a) means I can't also
> play Freecell;

Don't tell me that! <G> It takes immense efforts to not have
"my heart bleed for you! <G>) Seriously, try using smaller
memory settings that will be sufficient to run the apps you
need. Ultimately, there is not much we can do (outside
manufacturing a NEW palmtop with a chip capable of addressing
more memory). MaxDOS is one excellent solution you may wish to
try.

> (b) I set it to 200k because at 150 I was hanging on F3
> İnote¨ (it's a pretty severe hang, too -- sometimes requiring CTRL-SHIFT-ON
> to recover, but mostly a CTRL-ALT-DEL).  Is there a better way to do this?

Sure! With F3 you shove into meory that program, plus map,
plus your editor! Seams begin to strain!

Yes, the better way: MaxDOS. I started preparing an item
for the FAQ on this, but ran into some troubles, I am not an
expert on MaxDOS. I'll scrounge for it and post it here, then
on the Website when I get back from my trip August 5.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:38:46 -0400
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>> my test results:
>> LE.EXE (Laplink Editor v. 4a)  - takes 3 seconds
>> Q.EXE (QEdit v. 2.1) - takes half a second!
>
> Yup that Q.EXE is an earlier version of "The Semware Editor".
> Even the bigger versions of TSE start just as fast.
>
The fastest (and certainly the smallest) full-screen editor I've ever seen
is the old PC Magazine utility TED.COM. It occupies only 3k (3072 bytes!)
and loads in *less* than half a second.

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:36:49 +0200
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Hi Danny,

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:19:32 PST, Danny Gaudenti <gaudent@QNET.COM> wrote:

> Does anybody know where I can get a connector that plugs into the serial port
> on the 200LX?  I could buy a cable and cut off the end I need, but it would
> be much cheaper if I could just get the connector.

See my homepage
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ser_plug

I currently have these raw 2mm 2*5 connectors for sale, but that is
only recommendable if you live near me (Germany), otherwise the
shipping costs would be too high in comparison to the value of the
connectors.

GTX
daniel

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Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:48:49 -0500 (EST)

FWIW: I have been using RED.COM (came with the NetTammer package). It
is a little more featured than TED, has a F1 help key with all the key
strokes, but still is only 6893b...oh, and it loads fast too!

Cheers...AJKind

03h10m03s ago ...
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Bruce Martin wrote:

> >> my test results:
> >> LE.EXE (Laplink Editor v. 4a)  - takes 3 seconds
> >> Q.EXE (QEdit v. 2.1) - takes half a second!
> >
> > Yup that Q.EXE is an earlier version of "The Semware Editor".
> > Even the bigger versions of TSE start just as fast.
> >
> The fastest (and certainly the smallest) full-screen editor I've ever =
seen
> is the old PC Magazine utility TED.COM. It occupies only 3k (3072 =
bytes!)
> and loads in *less* than half a second.
>
> Bruce in Toronto
>
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well . . . is there one???, my ipaq is great, but clunky, and the HP WinCE
devices are even clunkier.

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Bruce Martin wrote:
> The fastest (and certainly the smallest) full-screen editor I've ever seen
> is the old PC Magazine utility TED.COM. It occupies only 3k (3072 bytes!)
> and loads in *less* than half a second.

I found TEX, and used it a few times with MM/LX, and it seems
to work well.

Timing: I am not sure how to measure such short durations, but
it is certainly shorter than PE!

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:39:09 +0200
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Did anyone here create a MM/LX template for regular meetings?

I am looking for a template which I will use with Ctrl-T.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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> Timing: I am not sure how to measure such short durations, but
> it is certainly shorter than PE!

In the past I have suggested a stripped down version of PE,
without any of the fancy functions that support other programs.
I like PE, just wish it was faster and needed less memory.    I
could do without support for PIM, WWW/LX, email, or database, or
even spell checker (could still use the outliner and formatting
functions).   Essentially then there would be two versions of
PE.     It would still be a bit slower than the tiniest editors,
but it would be faster and use less memory than the current PE,
while still providing the same pleasant interface.   I think the
problem was that Andreas was concerned that there was no
consensus about which features to keep and which to leave.   I
suggested at the time that Andreas make an arbitrary
determination for a bare bones program.   Any chances?

Domingo

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:33:56 -0400, Domingo wrote:
> As you can see, I am torn between two worlds.  :-)

Do not go over to the dark side Domingo :-)

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:55:00 -0700
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Hi Domingo: I hope you believe me that I had a giant smile on
my face while writing this reply. It really made my day...
This is a good message you sent, and very familiar subject.

Domingo wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Avi Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> > Timing: I am not sure how to measure such short durations, but
> > it is certainly shorter than PE!
>
> In the past I have suggested a stripped down version of PE,
> without any of the fancy functions that support other programs.
> I like PE,

That's it: Like me, you like the cake, but wish it had no
calories! <G> Probably 90% of the reason you like PE is that
it has nice features. Stripping them will give you TED.COM
<G>...

> just wish it was faster and needed less memory.

<G> We are working on Magic/LX at a furious pace. It will
charge your battery while it runs, it will pre-enter all the
information you would have entered in the various databases,
it will send emails to everyone before they write to you and
tell them the answer to their questions, even those they may
not have thought about by that time.

Best of all, it will preconfigure itself to only the features
you will need when you start it, occpy 15-25 bytes in memory,
and will have solved and finished the work you intend to do
BEFORE you fire up the program even.

Anticipated release date: February 31, 2002.

<G> You want a copy? Me too.

> or database, or
> even spell checker (could still use the outliner and formatting
> functions).

Sure, this preconfiguration to what you will need is coming up
in Magic/LX, see above.

The one nice thing about PE is that depite its price, you get
lots of support and lots of features <G>. It is not an ideal
program for EVERY situation (although we feel Magic/LX will be
the perfect ideal), but for the price, it is reasonably usable
and a justifiable value.

>  Essentially then there would be two versions of
> PE.

Yeah, right! And I'll want another subset of features, and so
on. And Andreas will maintain them all? nah!!! He who does the
work gets to choose the yoke, not you.

> It would still be a bit slower than the tiniest editors, >
but it would be faster and use less memory than the current
PE, > while still providing the same pleasant interface.

Speculation, no? - you do not know what the performance will be
until you crank it up.. The "pleasant interface" takes more
than you know.

> I think the
> problem was that Andreas was concerned that there was no
> consensus about which features to keep and which to leave. I
> suggested at the time that Andreas make an arbitrary
> determination for a bare bones program.   Any chances?

He did EXACTLY what you suggested, an arbitrary determination
that he thought (with the Betas) was the best set of features,
occupying the smallest code space, and performing at its best.

  Avi M. İD&A¨
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Al Kind wrote:
> FWIW: I have been using RED.COM (came with the NetTammer package). It
> is a little more featured than TED, has a F1 help key with all the key
> strokes, but still is only 6893b...oh, and it loads fast too!

Yes, that another nice one I found. Did it also come with
Goin' Postal?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Avi Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: PE vs. Other editors in MM/LX

> > It would still be a bit slower than the tiniest editors, >
> but it would be faster and use less memory than the current
> PE, > while still providing the same pleasant interface.
>
> Speculation, no? - you do not know what the performance will
be
> until you crank it up.. The "pleasant interface" takes more
> than you know.

I used to use PE before the advent of PIM.   When PIM came up,
PE was updated and it started having problems with programs it
did not have problems with before (uses more memory).   And it
started faster.   So it is not speculation, but actual
experience (I first joined the list about 4 -6 months before
Mitch gave it up, so it should give you some idea of how far
back I have seen that program).

A consolation would be to get a copy of some of the earliest
versions of PE.   Have any hanging around?   My older computer
crashed hard a few years ago, taking my old downloads with it.

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Domingo,

> I used to use PE before the advent of PIM.   When PIM came up,
> PE was updated and it started having problems with programs it
> did not have problems with before (uses more memory).   And it
> started faster.

You might also check your temp directory, specified in pe.cfg, for
files which were left from crashes. PE_XXX.AAA. If there are any, Close
PE and delete them and see if it speeds up.

pe.cfg

İFile¨
...
; where all temporary files should go
Temporary=C:\PIM\TMP


Kind regards

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:57:49 +0100
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>On 16 Jul 2001, at 20:09, David Goldstrom wrote:
>
>>    Any Derive users out there that can help? I purchased Derive for
>>    DOS from
>> Soft Warehouse in 1997 and loaded it onto a SRAM card; it worked great
>> then (got me through 2 semesters of calculus before I switched to
>> Mathematica).

<snip>

In message , Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> writes

>It looks like you're running Derive 4.0.  Many of us run 3.0 so we
>may not be able to help much.  I don't even have the same
>executables (mine  are from 1995).

I'm getting quite interested in these math(s) programs.

OFF TOPIC: David, what was lacking in Derive that pushed you to
Mathematica? There's a colossal difference in price (like a factor of
ten).

ON TOPIC: There's a company in the UK (http://www.chartwellyorke.com)
selling Derive 5.0, including a DOS version, which the specs say will
run in 16 bit mode if used on a sub-386 processor. Anybody any
experience with this?
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Domingo wrote:
> Once in a while people have to reload their (Windows) system,
> for one reason or another (I have had to do it three times this
> year).   When this is done one forgets to reset everything back
> to the way it was before.   Plus, I noticed that Outlook doesn't

Good points.

> ...and problems would be more effective than flames here,

I tried to be polite and to the point (and not reply to any
particular offender) in an attempt to make my concern a valid
topic of discussion and not a "flame".  I guess I failed.  :-(

Cheers... Russ

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> > Am I the only one getting tired of HTML posts?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:36:15 -0500
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Is there a place we can go to with hv that will allow us to view pages with
frames?  and format it to look better
for the palmtop.

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Chris Randle wrote:

> ON TOPIC: There's a company in the UK (http://www.chartwellyorke.com)
> selling Derive 5.0, including a DOS version, which the specs say will
> run in 16 bit mode if used on a sub-386 processor. Anybody any
> experience with this?

Derive 5.0 is a Windows-only program. The latest DOS version is v4.0, and
someone reported on the list last year (or the year before) that Soft Ware
House/Texas Instruments would no longer be supporting the DOS version.

The DOS version Chartwell-Yorke is offering is version 4.0, although I
have to admit it's not immediately obvious (check out the What's New
page, it says "What's New in Version 4").


bye,

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>>Am I the only one getting tired of HTML posts?

no but everyone is probably getting tired of complaining about them

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>>Emailing uncle Bill
>>about Outlook's defaults and problems would be more effective
>>than flames here, I think.

thanks for the laugh

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:36:50 -0400
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Suggestion: depending on the version of Listserv software we are
running, there is an option to block HTML code. THAT would stop
the problem ASAP.

Larry

On 18 Jul 01, at 21:18, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Domingo wrote:
> > Once in a while people have to reload their (Windows) system,
> > for one reason or another (I have had to do it three times this
> > year).   When this is done one forgets to reset everything back to
> > the way it was before.   Plus, I noticed that Outlook doesn't
>
> Good points.
>
> > ...and problems would be more effective than flames here,
>
> I tried to be polite and to the point (and not reply to any
> particular offender) in an attempt to make my concern a valid
> topic of discussion and not a "flame".  I guess I failed.  :-(
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> > > Am I the only one getting tired of HTML posts?
>
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Does anyone have a copy to sell? I visited MicroLogic's website and didn't find
the DOS version listed.

Ron

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Stop the HTML Posts (Please)


> Suggestion: depending on the version of Listserv software we
are
> running, there is an option to block HTML code. THAT would
stop
> the problem ASAP.

Now THERE is an idea.   Especially if it includes a friendly
message like the one we get when the message is too long.
Maybe Al can comment on this?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:37:09 -0400
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They don't list it because they don't produce it anymore.   They
might still have copies laying around, though.  You should call
them at their 800.   That's how I got my copy.

Domingo

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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:27 PM
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> Does anyone have a copy to sell? I visited MicroLogic's
website and didn't find
> the DOS version listed.
>
> Ron
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I am using Software Carousel on a 32 meg 200LX. Everything works find but I
am trying to operate the appointment book in a work area other than the
first one. I keep getting an error message stating it can't open the file.

I can open the appointment book in the first work area without any problem.
But when I close the appointment book and try to open it in a different work
area, I get the error message. I try to open the same .adb file that I
opened in the first work area but I can't get it to work. I even deleted the
appointment .env file and tried it but it still wouldn't work in any work
area but the first.

Does anyone know if SC requires the appointment book to open only in the
first work area? Any suggestions for a fix?

What I am trying to do is run two copies of appointment book each in a
different work area. If that isn't possible, does anyone know of an
alternative appointment program that works well in the 200LX?

Thanks, David


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I was playing with MM/LX today. I have a file where one of the items
off the main one is a link to another map, and that map is within the
same file.

I was viewing inside the sub-file map, and I hit Menu-Quit. It
prompted me to save the file CURT.MM, I hit Enter for OK, then the
display reverted back to the main map view and again prompted me to
save the file, and I selected OK again.

Then when I got back in to MM/LX, the link to the secondary map no
longer works. It seems to be a link to the main map, because when I
click it (it's underlined), the screen flashes, and I see the same
map, the highlight is at the center item again, and the number at the
top of the screen is (2).

Somehow when I saved the file it lost the secondary map data. I even
looked at the file in a text editor, and the data in the secondary map
is not there.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:07:56 +0200
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Curtis Cameron ably wrote:

 >I knew that I couldn't save, and I didn't want to lose everything
 >I had typed in, so I wanted to just cancel and get back to where I
 >was, but that wasn't a choice, so I had to abandon and then later
 >enter all that data again. If this weren't my own palmtop, I
 >would have thrown it across the room, it was so frustrating.

Ditto here! Same thing happened to me with MM/LX after I had typed in my
family tree (parents, grandparents, their details etc) When I tried to link
a new map to one of my grandparents (to show my uncles/aunts) it
prompted/asked me to save it to a file and i used the same file name
mentined in the dialog window thinking it would become a new map link in my
original file. I then saved it and quit. When next opening my family tree
file all i saw was the name of my grandparent in the center of the screen,
nothing else! Looking at my file with PE, it had shrunk to a few bites from
its original 8.4k. Now only 124 bytes it contains just my grandparent's
name. The original was lost and a backup is nowhere to be found.

I have erased MM/LX from my LX and await the next version.

Nathalie

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:40:04 -0600
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I think I found just the ticket. Haven't checked accuracy, but seems to
get the job done in the Western US. It is about 139K and runs on the LX.
The program is TRS2LL.EXE found on

ftp://ftp.blm.gov/pub/gis/

Might be worth including in Super.

Bob

"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> I would like to be able to convert back and forth on the LX:
>
>  - Township, Range, State
>  - Longitude and latitude
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Bob
>
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Date:         Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:44:39 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Small editor that loads fast?

You all owe it to yourself to try T.EXE the Tiny editor, only
10k.  It is remarkably powerful considering its size and is
quite configurable.

Get it from SUPER: TINYED.ZIP

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Date:         Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:51:58 -0700
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I think you boys at DASOFT need another pointman.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: PE vs. Other editors in MM/LX
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:55:00 -0700

Hi Domingo: I hope you believe me that I had a giant smile on
my face while writing this reply. It really made my day...
This is a good message you sent, and very familiar subject.

Domingo wrote:
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Avi Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
 > To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
 > > Timing: I am not sure how to measure such short durations, but
 > > it is certainly shorter than PE!
 >
 > In the past I have suggested a stripped down version of PE,
 > without any of the fancy functions that support other programs.
 > I like PE,

That's it: Like me, you like the cake, but wish it had no
calories! <G> Probably 90% of the reason you like PE is that
it has nice features. Stripping them will give you TED.COM
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Richard Millard wrote:
> I am using Software Carousel on a 32 meg 200LX. Everything works find =
but I
> am trying to operate the appointment book in a work area other than the
> first one. I keep getting an error message stating it can't open the =
file.

If you manage to open ADB in two SC workareas, your ADB is
toast, and looks more like chopped salad and chopped meat than
anything useful. To make absolutely sure you cannot do this, even by
mistake, SC will not allow opening it in another WA, even if
it is closed in the first WA. IMHO, a GREA security feature,
despite the bother.

> Does anyone know if SC requires the appointment book to open only in =
the
> first work area? Any suggestions for a fix?

It is not the FIRST WA, but the first WA which opens System
Manager.

> What I am trying to do is run two copies of appointment book each in a
> different work area. If that isn't possible, does anyone know of an
> alternative appointment program that works well in the 200LX?

That is a call for a disaster to walk in and chop up your
apptbook, and phonebook and so on. Suggest to NOT want to do
it, reallly.

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When an item has a note attached and is also a link, how do you advance to
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Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:07:46 +1200 (NZT)

ENTER to see the note, CTRL-ENTER for the link.

53m12s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:14:34 -0700, Martin Crundall wrote:

> When an item has a note attached and is also a link, how do you advance to
> where the link points?

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Curtis,

thanks for this excellent description. I am using a multimap within one
file, which is now 16434 bytes and when opening the map the Menu
contains dozens of entries. I couldn't reproduce it.

Help.mm is also a multimap in one file.

Do you mind sending me your test file?

Kind regards

Helmuth


> I was playing with MM/LX today. I have a file where one of the items
> off the main one is a link to another map, and that map is within the
> same file.
>
> I was viewing inside the sub-file map, and I hit Menu-Quit. It
> prompted me to save the file CURT.MM, I hit Enter for OK, then the
> display reverted back to the main map view and again prompted me to
> save the file, and I selected OK again.
>
> Then when I got back in to MM/LX, the link to the secondary map no
> longer works. It seems to be a link to the main map, because when I
> click it (it's underlined), the screen flashes, and I see the same
> map, the highlight is at the center item again, and the number at the
> top of the screen is (2).
>
> Somehow when I saved the file it lost the secondary map data. I even
> looked at the file in a text editor, and the data in the secondary map
> is not there.
>
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Martin,

> When an item has a note attached and is also a link, how do you advance to
> where the link points?

Help shows:

If there is a note, ENTER shows the note. If there is no note, ENTER
follows a link. If there is a note AND a link, Ctrl-ENTER follows the link.
If there is neither, ENTER opens the edit dialog for the item.
A link to a mind map or a text file is shown as underline.
A note is announced as a small square to the right of an item.

I hope this answers your question.

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One reason, why all these tiny editors load faster than PE is,
because they are COM files instead of EXE files.

A COM file has to run in one 64KB segment including code, data
and stack. The DOS loader function just copies the program into
one segment of the main memory and starts executing it. All
references are relative within the 64KB segment.

An EXE file usually uses different code, data, stack and extra
segments. And because the loader function only knows at load
time of the program, where these different segments are
available in main memory, it has to resolve these so called
"relocatable segment references" at load time. A program like
PE may easily have >2000 relocatable segment references. To
resolve them takes time.

There is nothing to do against that unless starting again from
scratch and designing a program to become a COM file. Indeed
you cannot use C for this job.

I see only one way to speed up PE loading time at no cost:
If D&A could release an uncompressed version of PE, I guess the
load time could be about one second faster, because PE.EXE
doesn't has to be decompressed every time at startup.

But it is up to the programmer, how he releases his programs.
I don't complain! I like PE very much. It is the only editor
I use and I prefer to take into account the load time instead
of learning new editor commands which are likely to be confused
and eating up the previously saved one or two seconds of a
faster loading tiny COM editor.

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Richard Millard <reader00@HOTMAIL.COM> asked about running the same
Appointment book in two SC sessions.

Early versions of SC allowed this to be tried. It became apparent, from user
feedback, that such a practice would corrupt the appointments and to-do
list. The same was found to be true for other database apps in the Palmtop.
The problem lies in having a live index in working memory while storing data
on the disk. Later versions of SC prevented this from happening either
inadvertently or intentionally.

I did have two appointment books many years ago. They had different names,
Personal.ADB and Work.ADB, and I could flip between them with the File Open
command-- in a single SysMgr session.  Even that became a hassle. I combined
the two files into one and used the priority field in the ToDo list to keep
my tasks separated, e.g. P0, P1, P2, W0, W1, W2, etc.  The appointments were
blended together, as they should be for someone who does not have the gift
of bilocating.

There are several DOS PIMS in the Simtel files. I tried most of them at one
time or another. I preferred the built-in appt book and to-do list on the
Palmtop.  Others prefer the PIM/PE combo from DASOFT.

For all the tips and techniques for using the database apps, and Software
Carousel, search the archives at www.PalmtopPaper.com

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The great thing about this list is that there are so many power--even super power users of the HP 200LX on it. Having been away from the device for a couple years, though, and seeing that there have been so many developments, I hate to ask what might be basic questions. I saw reference to an FAQ (I think in one of Avi's posts). Is there a URL where it might reside that someone could me towards?
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> Does anyone have a copy to sell? I visited MicroLogic's website and didn't
find
> the DOS version listed.
>
If you cannot find it you could try FFDB.  FFDB is on the super site.

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Is there  a version? İI don't trust the site to tell me, The DERIVE site has
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there was a rumor that it was being developed,İlast or second to last
palmtop paper?¨ anything ever come of it?

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> Best of all, it will preconfigure itself to only
> the features you will need when you start it,
> occpy 15-25 bytes in memory, and will have
> solved and finished the work you intend to do
> BEFORE you fire up the program even.

In Jeffery Deaver's mystery "The Blue Nowhere" there was a
hacker that the author epxlained was so good that the computer
could execute his source code directly with no translation.  I
think you need him on your team. :)

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> He who does the work gets to choose the yoke, not you.

I see you've learned the Microsoft way.

Bill would be proud of you.  :)

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hi,

> Emailing uncle Bill
> about Outlook's defaults and problems would be more effective
> than flames here, I think.

I think you cannot change the way Outlook is breaking rules by
emailing Mr. Gates. This will not solve our problem.
I use Pegasus (on the Desktop) and Post/lx on the HP and if you want
to be save from outlook viri and do not want to bother the list with
html mail, I can recommend this combination to everyone.

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>I saw reference to an FAQ (I think in one of
> Avi's posts). Is there a URL where it might reside that someone could me
> towards?

Try this -> http://www.hplx.net/faq.html

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At first -- until Avi pointed out MAXDOS as a solution -- I was using t.exe
as the editor.  The keystrokes and editing commands are quite different from
PE.  Now I am using MAXDOS (on a double-speed 8meg 200), I am finding the
loading speed to be about 1.5-2 seconds on F3.  Viewing is just about
instantaneous.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:21:09 +0000

One reason, why all these tiny editors load faster than PE is,
because they are COM files instead of EXE files.

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Michael Berrier writes:
> long live 200LX !!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
>
> > I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware business.

And it was my preferred replacement platform in case my HPLX eventually died.
What does that say about me! And now I have to wrap my aging HPLX in cotton
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If you don't mind sacrificing the use of Sysman, here is an
interesting flash from the past:
http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0010/msg00199.html

Domingo

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> At first -- until Avi pointed out MAXDOS as a solution -- I
was using t.exe
> as the editor.  The keystrokes and editing commands are quite
different from
> PE.  Now I am using MAXDOS (on a double-speed 8meg 200), I am
finding the
> loading speed to be about 1.5-2 seconds on F3.  Viewing is
just about
> instantaneous.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
> Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Faster PE
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:21:09 +0000
>
> One reason, why all these tiny editors load faster than PE is,
> because they are COM files instead of EXE files.
>
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Hi Nathalie,

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:07:56 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> Ditto here! Same thing happened to me with MM/LX after I had typed in my
> family tree (parents, grandparents, their details etc) When I tried to link

Hey, another excellent idea for the usage of MM/LX! Thanks!

> a new map to one of my grandparents (to show my uncles/aunts) it
> prompted/asked me to save it to a file and i used the same file name
> mentined in the dialog window thinking it would become a new map link in my
> original file. I then saved it and quit. When next opening my family tree
> file all i saw was the name of my grandparent in the center of the screen,
> nothing else! Looking at my file with PE, it had shrunk to a few bites from
> its original 8.4k. Now only 124 bytes it contains just my grandparent's
> name. The original was lost and a backup is nowhere to be found.

To me the same happened a few times, haven't figured out a pattern,
though. Most of the times it works fine.
First I thought it was my own fault, doing something wrong, but if you
all report the same, maybe it is really a bug.
Avi, what's your opinion?

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:55:20 +0200, Guenther Helmuth E. <h_e_guenther@attglobal.net> wrote:

> > I added a work are, changed the size of another, and adjusted the size
> > of the resource pool with help of the sizer.wk1 123 spreadsheet.
>
> What does that mean? I use scconfig.exe

I also use scconfig, but I have to use the sizer.wk1 to calculate the
correct size of the ressource pool. Do you do it another way? Maybe
this wk1 calculates a wrong size?

> > Now when I start SC, the first switching into every work area is as
> > fast as usual (about 3 seconds, I have the swap file on a sompletech
> > 96MB CF card), but if I switch between already started work areas, it
> > is terribly slow (about 7-10 sec).
> >
> > Does anyone know what could cause that behaviour?
> >
> > I HAVE taken care that the disk optimizer creates a contigouus space
> > for the swap file!
>
> I have never had this problem.
>
> What I do, (I use TREMM), after the additional memory is enabled and
> the drives are swapped I install EMM memory on C. I never suffered
> >from any problem.
>
> I would suggest to install the swapfile at the very first possibility if
> you would like to use a swap file.

according to other ostings here of knowledgable people it doesn6T
matter on a flash card WHERE a file physically is, regarding to the
access speed. But anyway, I also thought about placing the file at the
beginning of the drive, just to test it. Do you know how I can do that
(without moving all other files temporarily to another hard disk or
card)?

> I would backup my unit via a network card or to a CFLASH and start
> >from scratch. It takes only a few minutes. It is not worth the time on
> any fixes.

Maybe I'll do it that way. I'll report.

Thanks
daniel

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Hi Bob,

On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:36:55 -0400, "b.newins" <b.newins@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> I think SC is only happy (the fastest swaps) if you optimize when
> everything is empty and than load things back in the sessions.  I just
> changed some sessions & mine slowed down too.     =Bob=

I've shut SC down before all these changes and fired it up after them.
SC even started optimize before it launched the first time I started it
after the reconfiguration.
I even started optimize manually. But to no avail.

Thanks for your help.

Does anyone have a clue how to find out the maximum work area size,
which is possible? I have several WAs with 541K in size, don't know why
I chose just that size. Now, if I create a new area with e.g. 560K, it
also works, so there SEEMS to be more room in memory.

TNX
daniel

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In MM/LX there is the very handy feature to have links from map items
to either another map (ctrl-M) or to a file (ctrl-F). as probably most
other users of MM/LX I use PICKER.EXE to choose a file for a link.
This method puts the absolute filename (i.e. Drive:\path\filename) as
reference.

Sometimes it could be necessary to put the relative reference as a link
(e.g. if one wants to move a set of maps into another directory.

To do this, I pick the reference with PICKER.EXE and afterwards I
modify this absolute reference manually to a relative form.

Has anybody found a simpler way to create a relative link?

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I am looking for either a german dictionary (word list with german
words that can be compiled into a spell checker database) or even
better a already compiled file (.TRI) that can be used for PALEDIT.

Any ideas or sources?

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Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:07:45 +1200 (NZT)

Daniel,  with SC, to get a full status report of prog/video
resource pool usage for each WA, and total pool usage/free pool
I do hot-key-MENU and then Fn+HOME

That at least tells you the full status at the time. Maybe as
you open more WA your free pool is getting very low?

- Tony

03h32m26s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:35:19 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Does anyone have a clue how to find out the maximum work
> area size, which is possible? I have several WAs with 541K
> in size, don't know why I chose just that size. Now, if I
> create a new area with e.g. 560K, it also works, so there
> SEEMS to be more room in memory.

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my dear old dad is a die-hard HP 200 LX user.
Unfortunately it completely died on him, and he
tossed it. Before he did he claims he dumped all the
information on the unit onto his Mac via a cable and
some translation software. Needless to say, all he
has is several files of barely recognizable
gobbledygook.

He does however have his 10 MB flash card which has
all the data (or so he claims). What is the easiest
way to retrive this information? Eventually I want to
get it into Outlook for him, but I'll take nice clean
tab-delimited text files or Excel files for now.

I have a Win 98 laptop and tried sticking the PCMCIA
flashcard in one of my slots. The computer thought it
was an IDE Hard disk controller, and went looking for
a driver. Is there a way I can read the PCMCIA
flashcard in my win 98 laptop?

Again, thanks for all your advice, tips, help. I see
a loyal community of users out there, which I always
admire.

Email preferred:

mano@felciano.com

kind regards,

mano


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Does anyone know if there is a way of achieving the same thing as what =
Avantgo does without owning a Palm or a PocketPC.=20

HV & 200LX with a web page download utility to read  the results onthe =
go would add yet another dimension to the very useful 200LX.

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Manoel;

   Depends on the brand of the flashcard.  If it's a Sandisk, it should come
right up after installing the drivers for it, and then be readable as a
"removable drive."  I'd complete the driver installation for what it thinks
it's got and see if it comes up in file manager as an additional drive.  If
it's another brand, check their website for win98 drivers.

   Once you've got the files (.adb, .pdb and .gdb files in _dat, and
whatever other .doc or .xls files he's got) it's a matter of translating
them into csv or whatever.  the .İx¨db files can be read using freeware
utilities (gdbio and a couple others I think) which can be obtained from
www.palmtop.net (the "super" site).  There's an "address book to outlook
contact" translator out there.  I forget the name but I've used it and it
works well.  Check "super."  The doc files are probably just plain text and
can be read with notepad.  the .xls files can be read by just about any
spreadsheet (excel, etc.)

   But actually, y'aughta do the right thing and buy your Dad a new palmtop.
  I know some folks over at www.thaddeus.com who'd be happy to sell you one!
  Just think how happy he'd be.

   Martin

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Subject: hi
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:34:59 -0400

my dear old dad is a die-hard HP 200 LX user.
Unfortunately it completely died on him, and he
tossed it. Before he did he claims he dumped all the
information on the unit onto his Mac via a cable and
some translation software. Needless to say, all he
has is several files of barely recognizable
gobbledygook.

He does however have his 10 MB flash card which has
all the data (or so he claims). What is the easiest
way to retrive this information? Eventually I want to
get it into Outlook for him, but I'll take nice clean
tab-delimited text files or Excel files for now.

I have a Win 98 laptop and tried sticking the PCMCIA
flashcard in one of my slots. The computer thought it
was an IDE Hard disk controller, and went looking for
a driver. Is there a way I can read the PCMCIA
flashcard in my win 98 laptop?

Again, thanks for all your advice, tips, help. I see
a loyal community of users out there, which I always
admire.

Email preferred:

mano@felciano.com

kind regards,

mano


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I'm using internal CD-Audio cable, that white connector (to sound card)
is fit to our 200lx serial port, and i had that around 3 year ago
and no any problem.

Billy

>Date:    Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:34:13 -0700
>From:    Danny Gaudenti <gaudent@QNET.COM>
>Subject: serial connector
>
>Hi all,
>
>Does anybody know where I can get a connector that plugs into the serial
>port
>on the 200LX?  I could buy a cable and cut off the end I need, but it would
>be much cheaper if I could just get the connector.
>
>Thanks much,
>
>Danny



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> Subject: hi
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:34:59 -0400
> From: Manoel Felciano <mano@FELCIANO.COM>
>
> my dear old dad is a die-hard HP 200 LX user.
> Unfortunately it completely died on him, and he
> tossed it.
> He does however have his 10 MB flash card which has
> all the data (or so he claims). What is the easiest
> way to retrive this information?
> I have a Win 98 laptop and tried sticking the PCMCIA
> flashcard in one of my slots. The computer thought it
> was an IDE Hard disk controller, and went looking for
> a driver. Is there a way I can read the PCMCIA
> flashcard in my win 98 laptop?
> mano@felciano.com
>
> kind regards,
>
> mano

Mano
I copied the text below from this very group (see, I am paying
attention)
It may make your Dad's card readable.....
If you get stuck I have an old Omnibook which would probably
handle an old card...


>> Subject: Re: More problems with 200 LX
>>   Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:40:09 +0200
>>   From: "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM>
>> Mike wrote:
>>> You know, I plugged in my 16 MB Butterfly Group Flash card into W98SE, and it
>>> seemed to be taking it OK, but then it never showed up as another disk
>>> (like F: or something).  I also had problems with windows when using SRAM cards.  Is
>>> there some magic sauce needed get Windows to read these cards correctly?
>> Mike, use the following in config.sys:
>>  device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
>>  device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe
>> This make Sram and some weird flash cards visible.
>> Michel

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On their order page at the very bottom is listed

For more Micro Charts ...                                       <click>
For prior versions of software products ....

here is the link

https://secure1.sc.netnation.com/~com/miclog/order/full.htm

You probably will still have to call to clarify which one to order, but I think it is
Version 2.  I looked at my copy and it shows revision 2 - not sure what the
difference is between revision 2 and version 2.

Version 2 is $69.95 and shows DOS under the windows version column in
the table.  Listed as in stock.

Goods luck

Mike



> Does anyone have a copy to sell? I visited MicroLogic's website and didn't find
> the DOS version listed.
>
> Ron

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Alex,


> Does anyone know if there is a way of achieving the same thing as what =
Avantgo does without owning a Palm or
>  a PocketPC.
> HV & 200LX with a web page download utility to read  the results onthe =
go would add yet another dimension to
> the very useful 200LX.

browse to www.dasoft.com and look for ROBOT/LX and GET.EXE at their ftp
site. GET will let you define webpages for download with ROBOT/LX and
WWW/LX.

Here are some pages which I use in HTML and text mode. You may use a
HTML stripper to covert to ASCII.

;Company search
;www.google.com/search?q=3D%22Tyco+Inc.%22&sa=3DSearch&cat=3D&hl=3Den =
Google
;www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&safe=3Doff&q=3D%22Molex+Inc%22+financial+re=
port&btnG=3DGoogle+Search Google
;"Tyco Inc" financial report summary Google
;www.google.com/search?safe=3Doff&q=3D%22Tyco+Inc%22+financial+report+summ=
ary&btnG=3DGoogle+Search&cat=3D Google
www.google.com/search?q=3DMolex&btnG=3DGoogle+Search Google
support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q157/9/92.asp text
;www.altavista.com/sites/search/res_text?sc=3Don&hl=3Don&amb=3Dtxt&q=3DMol=
ex&kl=3Den&Search Altavista
finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3Dmolx&d=3Dd&=3Dt ticker
www.xipolis.net/suche/suche_profi_form.php?verfeinern=3D1&such_modus=3Dpro=
fi&suchmacro_name=3D&s1=3DProzess&co1=3DAND&s2=3D&co2=3DAND&s3=3D&co3=3DAN=
D&s4=3D&co4=3DAND&s5=3D&dr=3DXIPO&wo=3D0&image.x=3D76&image.y=3D12&message=
=3Dverfeinern Lexikon
www.xipolis.net/suche/suche_treffer.php?such_modus=3Deinfach&wo=3D1&s1=3DP=
rozess&startsearch.x=3D41&startsearch.y=3D11 Brockhaus
www.britannica.com/search?query=3Dmanager&ct=3Deb Britanica
www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=3DDictionary&va=3Dmanager Webster
www.britannica.com/thesaurus?book=3DThesaurus&va=3Dmanager Thessaurus
www.auto.com/avantgo/index.htm autonews
public.wsj.com/news/avantgo/euromart.html WSJ-Europe
www.ftmarketwatch.com/news/pulse.asp ft
www.marketguide2.newsalert.com/bin/main alert
www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/sz/ressort1.php SZStreiflicht
www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/sz/ressort10.php SZWirt
www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/index.php SZWirtsch
www.handelsblatt.com/hbiwwwangebot/fn/relhbi/sfn/buildhbi/SH/0/depot/0/ind=
ex.html HB
www.nzz.ch NZZ
www.welt.de/go/newsticker/meldungen.htx?koop=3D0&ressort=3Dnw&suche=3D&ivw=
=3Dfalse welt
dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/bs/summary.html yahoo1
pg1.yahoo.com/raw?dp=3Dnews&idx=3D/h/nm/bs/index yahoo2
www.industryweek.com/avantgo/ IWavant
www.faz.de/IN/INtemplates/faznet/default.asp?tpl=3Duptoday/homepage.asp =
FAZ
;www.faz.de/IN/INtemplates/faznet/default.asp?tpl=3Duptoday/homepage.asp =
FAZ
www.sueddeutsche.de/auto/index.php SZAuto
select.economist.com/partners/avantgo/current/business.html economist
www.industryweek.com/CurrentArticles/default.asp IWarticles
www.industryweek.com/Columns/default.asp IWcolumns
www.redherring.com redh
finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3Dmolx&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3DTYC&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3DTNB&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3DAPH&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock


HP Staber/Salzburg

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:34:59 -0400, Manoel Felciano <mano@FELCIANO.COM> wrote:

> my dear old dad is a die-hard HP 200 LX user.
> Unfortunately it completely died on him, and he
> tossed it. Before he did he claims he dumped all the

He tossed it?
There are certainly still working parts in it, and since HP
discontinued the manufacturing of 200LXs, it is necessary to save every
part as spare part!!
I am personally very interested in getting broken units!

> He does however have his 10 MB flash card which has
> all the data (or so he claims). What is the easiest
> way to retrive this information? Eventually I want to
> get it into Outlook for him, but I'll take nice clean
> tab-delimited text files or Excel files for now.

Depending on what data you have, there are many converters available.
The PIM data can be converted to Outlook format with OL2LX,
the data base files can be converted to CSV (comma  seperated values)
with GDBIO and ADBIO.... what else do you need to convert? The programs
I mentioned are available on http://www.palmtop.net/ search the SUPER
software database.

> I have a Win 98 laptop and tried sticking the PCMCIA
> flashcard in one of my slots. The computer thought it
> was an IDE Hard disk controller, and went looking for
> a driver. Is there a way I can read the PCMCIA
> flashcard in my win 98 laptop?

IDE hard disk controller is fine. Let it install the driver. It will
then let you access the card.

GTX
daniel


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Hi Andrew and Manoel

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:30:32 -0400, Andrew King <aking5@MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:

> >> Mike, use the following in config.sys:
> >>  device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
> >>  device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe
> >> This make Sram and some weird flash cards visible.

AFAIK, these drivers are only for linear flash cards and SRAM. Modern
cards are NOT of that kind. a 10 MB card is probably not too old and is
probably NOT a linear flash. SRAM cards are maximal 4MB in size.

GTX
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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:40:48 +0200
From: Andreas Garzotto
Subject: Bug alert in MM/LX 1.0a

BUG ALERT FOR MM/LX 1.0a

If you create a map, say MAP1, then create a new map within
the same file, say MAP2, then save MAP2 and go back to MAP1,
this all works well. But if you now edit MAP1 and save it,
the data of MAP2 is lost.  In order to prevent that, leave
MAP1 and reopen it before editing.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:05:37 +0100
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You may need to add these lines to your CONFIG.SYS:

device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=1

I have this on W95 in order to have it recognise my SRAM cards.  May be
different for a flash card.   What it does is create one removable drive,
for PCMCIA slot 0.  You must put the card in slot 0.  If you really need to
use slot 1, then you must specify slot=2, and you get two removable drives.

Of course check these files exist in W98 before you try it!

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Hi folks,

may be, that I didn't read the help files carefully,...

Composing a new message in POST/LX, the from-field is taken from
post.tpl. I can change it pressing F6. That's OK.

But: I have several mailboxes. Every mailbox should have its own
from-address, so that I don't have to select it via F6. I think,
the actual release can't do this, because in the setup the mail-address
is not asked.

Is there a way, that the mail-address of the actual mailbox is used
for the from-field of the composed mail? If not yet, could the next
release of POST/LX have this behaviour?

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

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Hi Michael,

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:41:59 -0400, "M. Lennartz" <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET> wrote:

> may be, that I didn't read the help files carefully,...

Seems so. ;-)
But I understand that - often it is less work to ask other people than
to search the help file.

> But: I have several mailboxes. Every mailbox should have its own
> from-address, so that I don't have to select it via F6. I think,
> the actual release can't do this, because in the setup the mail-address
> is not asked.
>
> Is there a way, that the mail-address of the actual mailbox is used
> for the from-field of the composed mail? If not yet, could the next
> release of POST/LX have this behaviour?

It's easy:
Change the From address in the compose dialog too the one you want and
press F4 (SaveTPL). Then you have the chance to save the current mask
including its contents (your new From address) as template. You can
then choose, if you want to save it as global template or jsut for
that mailbox.
The first will overwrite post.tpl, the second will create a file named
İcurrentmailbox¨.tpl and everytime you compose a message in that
mailboy, this tpl file will be used.

GTX
daniel

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This procedure should work, but be aware that under Windows, flash cards
require two interrupts (one for the drive controller and one for the card,
which is treated as a drive). My laptop at work said it installed the flash
card drivers OK, but it did not have any free interrupts, so it could not
read the flash card. I had to disable the internal modem (which I don't use)
to free an interrupt for the flash card.

Bob Feldman

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Manoel;

   Depends on the brand of the flashcard.  If it's a Sandisk, it should come
right up after installing the drivers for it, and then be readable as a
"removable drive."  <snip>

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Michael,

> But: I have several mailboxes. Every mailbox should have its own
> from-address, so that I don't have to select it via F6. I think,
> the actual release can't do this, because in the setup the mail-address
> is not asked.

This feature has been in POST/LX forever :)

In post.cfg add a line such as
    Template=3Dc:\w3\netway.tpl
into the İbox¨ section of you mailbox setup.
In my example netway.tpl is a copy of post.tpl with the other e-mail
adress in the From: field.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:08:14 -0400
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I am refering this back to the list, because I don't use HV.  I
read etext with my Palm.  I answered privately at first because
I did not think the list would be interested.

Domingo

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From: Alex Kamvissis
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Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: Avantgo


Thanks for the site Domingo but how do you download all the info
from say one site of interest and read it with HV later when off
line.

Alex
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Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Avantgo


http://members.bellatlantic.net/~blumax/plinkit/index.html

You won't find anything closer.

Domingo
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From: Alex Kamvissis
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:11 PM
Subject: Avantgo


Does anyone know if there is a way of achieving the same thing
as what Avantgo does without owning a Palm or a PocketPC.

HV & 200LX with a web page download utility to read  the results
onthe go would add yet another dimension to the very useful
200LX.

Maybe the topic has already been and gone. Guidance welcomed.
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MM/LX users.
Here is a word of warning.
I have found that MM/LX chokes if you make a link to a new map and the
path/filename is too long to fit in the top line.

This is what I did.
I created C:\_DAT\MMLX\EXAMPLE and put the example app there.
I fired up MM/LX and created the new map MAIN.
I created a child and used PICK to create a link to EXAMPLE.MPL.
The full path/filename C:\_DAT\MMLX\EXAMPLE\EXMPLE.MPL is picked as
link.
When I try to jump to that link MM/LX freezes and CTRL/ALT/DEL or
SHIFT/CTRL/ON is the only way out and all changes are lost ;-(

If you use PICK don't forget to remove the path !

By the way,
is it possible to change the date in a map title from within MM/LX?
Is an external editor the only option?

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Date:         Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:17:40 -0700
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Apologies if this question has been posed many times, but I need to
synch appointments between my HP200lx and either Outlook or Schedule+
running on NT 4.0.  I don't need any connectivity solutions because I
can put the .ADB file on a PCMCIA card and shuttle it between the
HP200lx and the NT box.  I'm just interested in a software solution.

Thanks very much in advance.

Rick

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Date:         Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:45:52 -0700
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If you can use schedule+ then get the old Intelilink program. I purchased my
copy from a list member, and was offered several copies.
It works with Schedule+ and hplx files.


I use it under Win2000, Before that I used it with NT4.0

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Rick Kenneally - Wilton, CT
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:18 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Synch with Schedule+ or Outlook?
>
>
> Apologies if this question has been posed many times, but I need to
> synch appointments between my HP200lx and either Outlook or Schedule+
> running on NT 4.0.  I don't need any connectivity solutions because I
> can put the .ADB file on a PCMCIA card and shuttle it between the
> HP200lx and the NT box.  I'm just interested in a software solution.
>>
---
My Outgoing mail has been virus checked and appears clean. However you
should always be running your own anti virus program. I am using both Norton
and  AVG.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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> Emailing uncle Bill
> about Outlook's defaults and problems would be more effective
> than flames here, I think.

Outlook express has an option to turn off HTML and send plain
text.  I don't use Outlook but if it's in Outlook express I
would think Outlook would have the same option.

Barry

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>>would think Outlook would have the same option.

outlook of course has this option in the format menu selection when replying
the annoying thing is when you are replying to a html formatted message
outlook wants to reply in html

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Curtis or anyone who knows
I am having trouble using the latest version of this programme
The contacts part works fine
when I use the tasks calendar exporter I get the following error message
"appt.pdb is not a valid .pdb file continue Y/N"
appt.pdb is what it says in the outlook export field of the programme

Any suggestions -am I supposed to export something from outlook or something?

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Hi Tony and others,

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:14:54 +1200, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> Daniel,  with SC, to get a full status report of prog/video
> resource pool usage for each WA, and total pool usage/free pool
> I do hot-key-MENU and then Fn+HOME
>
> That at least tells you the full status at the time. Maybe as
> you open more WA your free pool is getting very low?

Hey, thank you! I have never seen this small note "Press   Home   For
Status" by now. Great!

Well, I have done nearly everything you all sugggested: Moving the swap
file to the first place on the card, recalculating the ressource pool
size, configuring with SC shut down (have never done something
different), and at last I increased the size of the ressource pool
(swap file) by approximately 500K. After all these changes, it still
didn't work faster.

BUT: After a few days of usage with a few times of rebooting (but with
the same configuration as a few days before), it finall y is now as
fast as it was before. I cannot imagine why, I have changed NOTHING
since it was so slow for the last time.
Very strange.

Well, i think I will avoid reconfiguration as much as I can in the
future, run it as long as I can with the current config and speed and
keep beeing happy with that.

Thank you all for your help!

GTX
daniel

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> PFA comes on a card and, apparently, the card must be in the slot in order to run PFA.
>
> I've tried copying all the files on the PFA card  over to the root directory of the 20mb card, no dice,
> wont work.
>
> It's a pain to keep switching cards, and inevitably i find myself at the NYMEX with one of the cards
> at home İso i shouldn't  trade or i shouldn't eat¨ . Any suggestions?


I have succeeded ages ago and will attempt to post what I have but am
not sure that I even understand what I did (G)

Here's my directory structure on the a: drive.  Pfa is located in the P
subdirectory and below it yet another P subdirectory:


 Volume in drive A has no label
 Volume Serial Number is 357E-1300

Directory of A:\P

.              <DIR>        01-05-01  9:21a .
..             <DIR>        01-05-01  9:21a ..
A        BAT            69  03-08-97 11:48p A.BAT
D        DB4           279  03-08-97 11:48p D.DB4
P        SAV         5,279  03-08-97 11:48p P.SAV
PFA      KEY         8,497  03-08-97 11:48p PFA.KEY
P              <DIR>        01-05-01  9:21a P
         4 file(s)         14,124 bytes

Directory of A:\P\P

.              <DIR>        01-05-01  9:21a .
..             <DIR>        01-05-01  9:21a ..
D        DB4       379,206  03-08-97 11:50p D.DB4
D        QIK       106,002  03-08-97 11:52p D.QIK
PFA      EXE       174,111  03-08-97 11:51p PFA.EXE
         3 file(s)        659,319 bytes

Total files listed:
         7 file(s)        673,443 bytes
         5 dir(s)        6,670.52 MB free

Now to see what a.bat does? ....

ECHO OFF
zoomtest c4
ks \z/ 1g/l2
a:\p\p\pfa
zoomtest c8
esc

...................

seems to change zoom modes since it is an HP95 program and does some
keystuffing to get past opening menu???? and then runs pfa.exe from the
two P subdirectories..........

Good luck - again, I managed this setup about 5 years ago and don't
recall its in's and out's!

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Date:         Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:35:32 +0000
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> http://www.total.net/~hkonstas/trgdos.html


And just for some HP history.  H Konstas is the original
author/programmer of Palrun and was one of the guiding inspirations for
the entire PAL suite having first created such a monster in Assembly,
his preffered language at that time.

There are a number of his hp programs floating around.  Sadly, he moved
to the dark side (G)

I raise my glass to Harry!

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Date:         Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:35:36 +0000
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> I fixed my hinge crack two years ago using epoxy glue. I have
> had no further trouble since. If anyone would like more
> details don't hesitate to ask.

Please post especially since:

> Werner Furlan who saw the repair was impressed by its neatness
> and solidity.

It sounds as if you found a neat way to do it.

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> .



Ah, the beginning of another DOT COM!  It also seems like the end of
another DOT COM! (G)

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Date:         Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:53:48 -0600
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From:         Getz <jgetz@WCENET.COM>
Subject:      adbdump

Looking for adbdump.exe to use with Rex 3

any help appreciated



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Date:         Sat, 21 Jul 2001 14:36:08 -0400
Reply-To:     John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Psion giving up

Hi Barry and all other Psion fans,

Barry wrote:

>I just read that Psion is getting out of the hardware business.
>You can read about it at
>http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-11-Psion-Leaving-Handheld.html

>Another article implied they were no longer manufacturing new
>machines but were selling off their inventory.

I've got some good news for Psion fans. :-)

After reading that article and many other articles about it, it was still
my belief that Psion Digital merely announced that they would take the
wait and see approach to the development of any new consumer handhelds,
but will continue to manufacture and sell their current consumer handheld
models.

Barry, you didn't give a reference for the second article, so I looked
into this even further and I found something that I think would be of
great interest to you and all other Psion fans.  To my surprise, I found
the following July 13, 2001 article at Psion Place:

Psion Denies it is Leaving Handheld Market
http://www.psionplace.com/articles/2001/7/2001-7-13-Psion-Denies-it.html

The following is a quote from that July 13, 2001 article:

"It was reported yesterday that Psion would be exiting the handheld
market. According to the earlier reports Psion was completely pulling out
of the consumer handheld market other than selling off its current
inventory and supporting the devices that have been sold.

Peter Bancroft, a senior spokesman for Psion, released a follow-up
statement saying that "There will be more Psion consumer products in the
future." According to Bancroft Psion is merely 'suspending' their plans
to develop a consumer Bluetooth device."

So, all Psion fans can sigh a sigh of relief. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:12:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Jack Schudel <schudel@UFL.EDU>
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I have a problem with my APPT.ADB file.

If I am in the appointment view, and select an appointment,
the center tab in the header line contains garbage.
(mostly unprintable characters, but they are different for
each viewed appointment.

If I select <menu> Options,
one of the lines is trashed, usually the ToDo Defaults, but not always.
If I select <menu> File,
the Remove line is trashed.

If I switch to the ToDo List,
there is a new, extra entry at the end of the Appointments box,
with a time that has 3 digits in the hour field.

If I exit out of APPT,
DBCHECK reports No problems found,
but it does say
Found records: 479
Expected records: 478


If I try to open the appt application, I get an error box that says
Record not found.


If I rename APPT.ADB to XXX.ADB, I can open the appointment
book, and merge XXX.ADB, which gets me going again,
but within a day things are broken again.



Also, when I am having the problem, I can EXTRACT all entries after
1/1/1990, and then select file/new/merge the extracted file,
and again fix the problem for a little while.


I copied the appt.adb file to my backup machine, and it has the same
problem.

Does anyone have any idea how I can actually fix the problem?

Is there a program that will let me unload an ADB file into some
readable
format, and then take the readable file and convert it back into an ADB
file
without loss of data?

Thanks in advance...

/jack      <schudel@ufl.edu>

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:48:33 -0700
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Avi, what's your opinion?

I was unavailable when this problem with data disappearing
from a sub-map despite being saved in the main map (and the
submap) map was reported first. By now I believe you have read
the alert Andreas forwarded to be posted.

  Avi

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:48:28 -0700
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Barry wrote:
> Avi Meshar wrote:
> > Best of all, it will preconfigure itself to only
> > the features you will need when you start it,
   İsnip¨
>
> In Jeffery Deaver's mystery "The Blue Nowhere" there was a
> hacker that the author epxlained was so good that the computer
> could execute his source code directly with no translation.  I
> think you need him on your team. :)

:)  It would be good!

  Avi

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:48:22 -0700
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From:         Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Wayne,

Welcome back.

> I saw reference to an FAQ (I think in one of Avi's posts).

I am not sure which FAQ I was referring to, sorry. One great
place to ask specific questions is right here. If you can find
the post where I mentioned the FAQ, maybe I can find the URL
for you.

  Avi

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:48:11 -0700
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Martin Crundall wrote:
> When an item has a note attached and is also a link, how do you advance =
to
> where the link points?

You can have a note, or a link, or both, or none.

If a note is present, Enter displays it. If there is a link
and no note, Enter follows the link. If you have both, and
want the link, press CTRL-Enter. If none is present, Enter
opens the dialog to edit the item.

For your reference, here is the relevant section from the
Navigation submap of HELP.MM:

      ENTER: Link / show note / edit note
|        If there is a note, ENTER shows the note. If there is no note, =
ENTER
|        follows a link. If there is a note AND a link, Ctrl-ENTER =
follows the link.
|        If there is neither, ENTER opens the edit dialog for the item.
|        A link to a mind map or a text file is shown as underline.
|        A note is announced as a small square to the right of an item.

Hope this helps.

  Avi

  Current Pointman for D&A <g>...
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:48:37 -0700
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From:         Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Lasse Karlsson wrote:
> MM/LX users.
> Here is a word of warning.
> I have found that MM/LX chokes if you make a link to a new map and the
> path/filename is too long to fit in the top line.

I can confirm this problem. From my own map:

   My Maps
    İ.. snip a lot .¨

      Try=18A:\DATA\DASOFT\WEBSITE\WWWWWWW\FTP\MMLX\LUNCH.MM

When I press enter, the machine freezes. I can recover with a
regular boot under SC.

> If you use PICK don't forget to remove the path !

If you change the link, then MM/LX cannot find the map (of
course, if it can, it seems to freeze the machine :-( ...)

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 10:24:36 -0500
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John J Vanderstel wrote:
> Hi Barry and all other Psion fans

Just one correction.  I've never even seen a Psion close up.  I
know very little about them.  I thought that might be of
interest to this list because they are another PDA.

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:36:25 +0200
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Hi Getz

On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:53:48 -0600, Getz <jgetz@WCENET.COM> wrote:

> Looking for adbdump.exe to use with Rex 3

No ADBDUMP there, but for the current status of REX3 synchronization
please look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rexsync

GTX
daniel

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the digest version sends stuff out as html . . . . .

or at least one version does, the original digest version that i subscribed to sends out each posting
as a separate "email" attachment İshows up as icons in outlook, and miraculously shows up as a
list of emils in pegasus mail¨

then about a month ago, i started receiving a second digest, in plain text, all of the messages just
strung together as one giant email, much  less useful then the attachment digest version.




Date sent:              Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:02:07 -0400
From:                   Larry Tachna <ltachna@ATT.NET>
Subject:                Re: Stop the HTML Posts (Please)

> >>would think Outlook would have the same option.
>
> outlook of course has this option in the format menu selection when replying
> the annoying thing is when you are replying to a html formatted message
> outlook wants to reply in html
>

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Hello there

Can anybody help this guy out? I have no expirience with Gps and the
Hplx

I will forward any replies to him.

Thanks in advance.

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway


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From: "Dieter Baumert" <Baumert-D@t-online.de>
To: "Martin Bergvill" <martin@bergvill.com>
Subject: GPS - waypoints - HP200 downloads?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:04:14 +0200

Hello Martin,

I do need you help again.

I am buying a Garmin 'Streetpilot' GPS for my next trip - maybe to
Norway:-). This model will have a map built in, but I have to plan the
trip at home at the desktop using some software which I will get. After
the planning I have several routes which contain 'waypoints'. The
'Streetpilot' of Garmin can only hold 100 waypoints and in order to
plan a long trip on the home computer I have to break the trip into
sections.

And then I want to load the routes and waypoints into the HP200 LX.
When I am on my way I would download the actual daily version of my
'daily route' into the GPS.

I have been looking for DOS programs that can download data from the PC
to HP and then to the GPS. But now I am confused if they still work
with the modern units. I found programs like 'G7TO' and 'Gardown' and a
guy named 'Chris Lott' seemed to have written something about it in Feb
98. I even asked for the first time in the Usenet. But no good answers.
I know that there are WinCE program available that can do it. Even
'Palmtops':-(

And I do not want to give up yet.
Do any of your friends work with the HP200 and a separate Garmin GPS?

I would be interested to get some information.

Dieter

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:15:33 +1200
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From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:10:16 +1200 (NZT)

Hi,

ROBOWEB.ZIP (120K) is available at:

ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/roboweb.zip

and

http://alwaysafe.com/dasoft/public_ftp/WWW/roboweb.zip

-------
ROBOWEB/LX is a WWW digger for WWW/LX. PKUNZIP ROBOWEB.ZIP
(in C:\ROBOWEB, for example), and read README.TXT for
further instructions. If you have never edited a ROBOT.CFG
file before, then follow the setup instructions in
RWOUTBOX.TXT. Good Luck!
------

Basically you give ROBOWEB/LX a URL and off he goes digging
the site, throwing HTML in one directory, non-HTML in
another. Or he will immediately strip all HTML and put it
in a POST/LX in-box for you. He digs to a specified depth,
and will respond to many other controls and filters.

Examples included.

Freeware.

Also PEFMT.ZIP is available at the same sites. It is a tiny
2K file, which is a "format filter for PalEdit". There was
some discussion of this type of thing here on HPLX-L. I have
been using it successfully for a few weeks now. It reformats
blocks of lines with the same quoting prefix. See PEFMT.DOC
for instructions.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:20:23 +1200
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:10:16 +1200 (NZT)

Hi, me again

> ROBOWEB.ZIP (120K) is available at:

I checked the sites - it downloads well here using "G" within
POST/LX. Thanks to Avi for uploading the files.

Also I should explain more about ROBOWEB.ZIP.  It includes
everything you need to run the ROBOWB/LX, apart from WWW/LX.
For example it includes the latest ROBOT.EXE, and also GET.EXE
(this is identical to the GET.EXE in GET.ZIP which has been
available for maybe 5 years!).

Mainly, I write to tell this:

It also includes 2 exquisite *new* freeware tools by Andreas:

H2T.EXE - converts HTML to TEXT. This has been tested on some
very complex web pages - even one with everything on one line
70,000 characters long. It is magnificent at extracting the
links/labels from HTML (the -L option). This one has no .DOC -
just run it from the command line to see the options.

SR.EXE - a search and replace engine. His is used to re-link
the HTML offline, and also at other places in ROBOWEB/LX.
Very handy. SR.DOC included.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 03:46:25 +0000
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> Curtis or anyone who knows
> I am having trouble using the latest version of this programme
> The contacts part works fine
> when I use the tasks calendar exporter I get the following error message
> "appt.pdb is not a valid .pdb file continue Y/N"
> appt.pdb is what it says in the outlook export field of the programme


The appt file is an *.adb file not *.pdb file.  I don't know if that is
your data entry or Curtis' program looking for it.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 05:56:38 +0200
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>>would think Outlook would have the same option.
 >Outlook of course has this option in the format menu selection
 >when replying the annoying thing is when you are replying to
 >a html formatted message outlook wants to reply in html

what is worse, HTML files in Outlook often look EXACTLY like plain text, but
viewed with PE they are filthy

for this reason i save every file to be replied to seperately and give it
the H2T.exe wash followed by the LE.EXE/QuickDos cut and dry treatments on
my laptop

et voila, they turn out clean and lovable again :)

Nathalie, ...waiting patiently for Andreas
 to quit "ABANDON" for cancel, and add a *.MM.bak feature.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:05:00 +0000
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Sandisk informed the OEM customers about end of life for the

Type I:  48, 96, 160
Type II: 256, 300

MB CF cards. The above products are being replaced by new
capacities as part of the transition to NAND memory. The new
capacities are:

Type I: 64, 128, 192, 256, 384, 512

Final orders for the old cards must be received by September 30.
The higher capacity new cards will be available at the end of
August 2001.

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   Avi Meshar wrote:
> ... I'll scrounge for it and post it here, then
> on the Website when I get back from my trip August 5.

Avi,

Have a nice trip but please confirm that you will be able to process =
MM/LX
registration while travelling. 5th August looks awefully far to me.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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You need OL2LX from Curtis Cameron.

http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

He has very recently updated it, and it works well for me.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:52:13 +0100
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I've not tried it yet but this seems about right:

http://www.anali.demon.co.uk/gardwon.htm

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:09:00 +0100
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Tony Hutchins wrote:
>
> Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:10:16 +1200 (NZT)
>
> ROBOWEB.ZIP (120K) is available at:
>
> ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/roboweb.zip
> and
> http://alwaysafe.com/dasoft/public_ftp/WWW/roboweb.zip

Fellow list members,

I had the privilege to test that piece of software the last months and
I'm truly amazed at what I get out of the web each morning on my early
morning online run :

 -news of major newspapers and magazines
 -financial and business allerts
 -stock ticker information
 - ...

You can even redirect a Google or Altavista search as HTML or TXT to
your palmtop for extensive study. Same with search words for online
encyclopaedia like Websters etc.

After WWW/LX and the PIM/PE suits this is another must_have on the
palmtop. Great job Tony and thanks to make it available for the public.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:31:17 -0400
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I have a minor problem with Mind Map.  I was typing in a new Mind Map.  I =
only
had a few items added and had not saved it yet.  I accidentally hit F1 =
(Help)
instead of F2 and the help Mind Map appeared.  When this happens, how do =
I get
back to my initial map? I tried F9 (Open) and the name of my new map was =
on the
list.  When I selected it, however, all I got was a blank map.  I know =
that one
solution is to save my work before I hit the wrong key <g> but a more =
elegant
solution would be nice.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:46:27 -0400
Reply-To:     Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 8:05 AM
Subject: SanDisk notification


> Sandisk informed the OEM customers about end of life for the
> Type I:  48, 96, 160
> Type II: 256, 300
> MB CF cards. The above products are being replaced by new
> capacities as part of the transition to NAND memory.

Will NAND memory be compatible with devices intended for the
older standard (hplx, for example)?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:52:49 +0200
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Hello,

Just saw this mentioned in comp.os.minix:

<www.iagora.com/~espel/msdos/ktris.asm>
<www.iagora.com/~espel/msdos/ktris.zip>

It is the source code and binary for a fully functionnal MS-DOS Tetris
game in assembly for PC. The binary size, uncompressed, is... 408
bytes.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:56:53 +0200
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Hello,

Just forgot to mention, controls are:
numeric keypad 7 / 8 / 9 for left / rotate /right
or Home / UpArrow / PgUp.

Was obviously designed for the desktop PC keyboard. You cannot exit
until bricks fill up as I found!?

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:13:52 -0400
Reply-To:     Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Hi guys.

An accident happend, by mistake I stepped on my LX so the
screen cracked.

Everything else is OK, do you think I need a new screen or
could it be enough perhaps with a pane of glass?


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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:22:40 -0700
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Steve;
   I believe if you just tap ESC ONCE you'll go back to where you were
before you hit F1.  Note the number in parens on the top line -- this tells
you how deep you are.
   Martin

Steve Carder wrote ...

I have a minor problem with Mind Map.  I was typing in a new Mind Map.  I
only
had a few items added and had not saved it yet.  I accidentally hit F1
(Help)
instead of F2 and the help Mind Map appeared.  When this happens, how do I
get
back to my initial map? I tried F9 (Open) and the name of my new map was on
the
list.  When I selected it, however, all I got was a blank map.  I know that
one
solution is to save my work before I hit the wrong key <g> but a more
elegant
solution would be nice.

  Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:30:23 +0200
Reply-To:     Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
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From:         Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
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in German
http://www.yellow.de/prod/leather/D_PROD_leather.STM

in English
http://www.yellow.de/prod/leather/e_prod_leather.stm


Just wanted to point to this resource of leather cases for the HP200lx etc.

I've just received the Business and Office edition of the leather cases.
Both are well made and the leather seems to be able to withstand a
"business day use" for quite a long time (quit similar to my BREE A4 case I
have, so I expect quite a bit)

I finally settled for the Office version. The picture they provide is not
to good, but some points:

* the right side (where they placed the HP) is completely padded with
velcro-straps (right wording? the stuff you have a "father" and a "mother"
type of plastic which you can fasten and tear off and fasten and tear off
...... They provide quite a few (5 pieces with 21cm, 2 pieces w/ around
4cm) to place on additional goods)
* the recorder they show there is additional and just laying there ... no
piece of adjustment.
* the middle area, where you bend the cased is equipped w/ 3 possibilities
for pencils
* on the left side there are 2 nearly A4 size pockets below the equipment
stuff. Only able to hold a couple of sheets of paper, but useable for the
stuff you get as travel plans, tickets etc. etc.
* the phone holster is also attached via these straps. It additionally has
a belt attachement possibiliy (weak, you can open the strap w/ the velcro)

If you give me a little time I'll upload pictures from the office and the
business version on my website. Beg me and I'll do it 'till the middle of
the week (grin).

I found it worth the amount of 250 German marks - keeping in mind what my
BREE case had cost me and the issue with carrying around the HP, a mobile
phone, business cards, recorder (yes, I do ...), Cables, Batteries, Pen and
A5 paper for some occasional notes I do not want to use the HP for.

OK,

just to point you into another direction of leather cases

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:38:21 -0600
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My 200LX also developed this same crack on its back edge after about 18
months. Fortunately, I purchased the extended warranty from Thaddeus and
they repaired at no additional cost. Perhaps this crack can result from too
much downward pressure when opening the battery cover. (S/N: SG90700573)

Dale Batson

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Feldman İmailto:lfeldman@USA.COM¨
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:16 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Speaking of hinge cracks


I know we are all familiar with the hinge crack on the case TOP, but wonder
if many have experienced this:

On the BACK of the unit, on the back edge, there is a thin strip of plastic
runing the length of the unit from left to right. This is neither the top or
the bottom, but the back of the unit. I've had several units where this
strip has cracked.

Most recently, my last unit, purchased "new" from Thaddeus, right before the
HP was discontinued, developed this crack after 16 months. HP replaced the
unit under Express Exchange (I had the contract extension), but it seems
that these units are literally falling to pieces....


Regards,

Larry Feldman

HP100/200 user since '96

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:53:34 -0400
Reply-To:     I Al-Khars <ialkhars@HOTMAIL.COM>
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How about the universal lather case and the deluxe lather case?
By the way, how you made your order, there is no online order form.

I Al-Khars


>From: Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
>Reply-To: Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Leather Cases
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:30:23 +0200
>
>in German
>http://www.yellow.de/prod/leather/D_PROD_leather.STM
>
>in English
>http://www.yellow.de/prod/leather/e_prod_leather.stm
>
>
>Just wanted to point to this resource of leather cases for the HP200lx etc.
>
>I've just received the Business and Office edition of the leather cases.
>Both are well made and the leather seems to be able to withstand a
>"business day use" for quite a long time (quit similar to my BREE A4 case I
>have, so I expect quite a bit)
>
>I finally settled for the Office version. The picture they provide is not
>to good, but some points:
>
>* the right side (where they placed the HP) is completely padded with
>velcro-straps (right wording? the stuff you have a "father" and a "mother"
>type of plastic which you can fasten and tear off and fasten and tear off
>...... They provide quite a few (5 pieces with 21cm, 2 pieces w/ around
>4cm) to place on additional goods)
>* the recorder they show there is additional and just laying there ... no
>piece of adjustment.
>* the middle area, where you bend the cased is equipped w/ 3 possibilities
>for pencils
>* on the left side there are 2 nearly A4 size pockets below the equipment
>stuff. Only able to hold a couple of sheets of paper, but useable for the
>stuff you get as travel plans, tickets etc. etc.
>* the phone holster is also attached via these straps. It additionally has
>a belt attachement possibiliy (weak, you can open the strap w/ the velcro)
>
>If you give me a little time I'll upload pictures from the office and the
>business version on my website. Beg me and I'll do it 'till the middle of
>the week (grin).
>
>I found it worth the amount of 250 German marks - keeping in mind what my
>BREE case had cost me and the issue with carrying around the HP, a mobile
>phone, business cards, recorder (yes, I do ...), Cables, Batteries, Pen and
>A5 paper for some occasional notes I do not want to use the HP for.
>
>OK,
>
>just to point you into another direction of leather cases
>
>peb
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:45:02 -0700
Reply-To:     "Rick Kenneally - Wilton, CT" <woodlandview@YAHOO.COM>
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I just noticed the same crack on my machine, but I attributed it to
dropping the unit on a hard floor recently.

I've noticed NO apparent loss of integrity in the case, no odd motion
or stretching when I open/close the unit, and no other ill effects from
this crack.  So I'm letting it be (and trying not to drop it again :-).

Rick

ps.  After hinge cracks, droppings, and general daily abuse for 7
years, my old 100LX's case consisted of more JB Weld than plastic.
We'll see if I can get 7 years out of this one.



--- "Batson, Dale N" <dale.n.batson@LMCO.COM> wrote:
> My 200LX also developed this same crack on its back edge after about
> 18
> months. Fortunately, I purchased the extended warranty from Thaddeus
> and
> they repaired at no additional cost. Perhaps this crack can result
> from too
> much downward pressure when opening the battery cover. (S/N:
> SG90700573)
>
> Dale Batson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Feldman İmailto:lfeldman@USA.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:16 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Speaking of hinge cracks
>
>
> I know we are all familiar with the hinge crack on the case TOP, but
> wonder
> if many have experienced this:
>
> On the BACK of the unit, on the back edge, there is a thin strip of
> plastic
> runing the length of the unit from left to right. This is neither the
> top or
> the bottom, but the back of the unit. I've had several units where
> this
> strip has cracked.
>
> Most recently, my last unit, purchased "new" from Thaddeus, right
> before the
> HP was discontinued, developed this crack after 16 months. HP
> replaced the
> unit under Express Exchange (I had the contract extension), but it
> seems
> that these units are literally falling to pieces....
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Larry Feldman
>
> HP100/200 user since '96
>
> --
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:50:52 -0700
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Is there any product that would allow me to use the HP100/200 as an
appliance timer?  I have a specialized tape recording application
(radio hobbyist) that requires a tape recorder be turned on for a few
minutes at a time many times per day.  The HP appointment calendar is
powerful enough, if I had the right drivers and some kind of outlet
switch.

Anyone know of any old DOS-based apps/kits for doing this?

Thanks much,

Rick

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Steve,

> I have a minor problem with Mind Map.  I was typing in a new Mind Map.  I only
> had a few items added and had not saved it yet.  I accidentally hit F1 (Help)
> instead of F2 and the help Mind Map appeared.  When this happens, how do I get
> back to my initial map? I tried F9 (Open) and the name of my new map was on the
> list.  When I selected it, however, all I got was a blank map.  I know that one
> solution is to save my work before I hit the wrong key <g> but a more elegant
> solution would be nice.

Press ESC to return to your map from help.

Kind regards

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:31:54 -0500
Reply-To:     Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:02:07 -0400 Larry Tachna wrote:
>outlook of course has this option in the format menu selection when replying
>the annoying thing is when you are replying to a html formatted message
>outlook wants to reply in html

And if you're replying to or forwarding an e-mail that's encoded in
Rich Text Format, you can't even turn that off! You're forced to send
mail that makes you look like an idiot.

And then if you use the defacto standard style of quoting where quoted
lines are preceded by a ">" sign, it breaks up each line of the
original into two quoted lines, where one is significantly longer than
the other. This makes you look like a fool who just got on the
Internet last week.

Outlook does some nice things for integrating a calendar, contacts,
and e-mail, but the basic e-mail functions are unbelievably poorly
implemented. I could rattle off ten or twenty basic features that
every e-mail program in the world offers, and in Outlook are either
absent, or are implemented badly. Another example is that while it's
exchanging messages with the server (when in offline mode), you're
locked out from Outlook, so if you're in a hotel room waiting for
those 10 MB of e-mail which I get on a typical day, you can't read
messages or compose messages. It's so unbelievable I want to start
jumping up and down and screaming! OK, I'll stop now.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:40:13 -0500
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Subject:      Re: APPT.ADB problem
Comments: To: Jack Schudel <schudel@UFL.EDU>
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:12:12 -0400 Jack Schudel wrote:
>If I select <menu> Options,
>one of the lines is trashed, usually the ToDo Defaults, but not always.
>If I select <menu> File,
>the Remove line is trashed.

>DBCHECK reports No problems found,

>Is there a program that will let me unload an ADB file into some
>readable
>format, and then take the readable file and convert it back into an ADB
>file
>without loss of data?

If you have Outlook (not Outlook Express, which I see you're using),
you can import the file into Outlook, then create a new adb file with
that data. This might get around whatever is causing the file to be
bad. But I'm interested in seeing the adb file, so I could maybe make
DBCHECK detect the errors. Could you send it to me?

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:07:26 +1200
Reply-To:     Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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Thanks to all who responded to my hair-brained question
about using the IR port of the LX as a human-sensing
alarm clock trigger.
The idea died a quick death, but it was worth asking.
The knowledge and creativity of people on this list never
ceases to amaze me.

Cheers...

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:06:16 +0200
Reply-To:     Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
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From:         Peter Eberl <peb@EBERL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Leather Cases
Comments: To: I Al-Khars <ialkhars@hotmail.com>
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At 15:53 23.07.2001 -0400, I Al-Khars wrote:
>How about the universal lather case and the deluxe lather case?
I have not looked into them - due to the fact that I already had two
leather cases (one barely fitting the HP, another one with an extra
compartment for cables, creditcards etc. on top).

>By the way, how you made your order, there is no online order form.

I called them :-)
(But fax should also work)


regards

peb

in German
>>http://www.yellow.de/prod/leather/D_PROD_leather.STM
>>
>>in English
>>http://www.yellow.de/prod/leather/e_prod_leather.stm

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Reply-To:     Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Hi

How do you do when you want to change screens on the LX?

I have two LXs, and the one I stepped on was ofcourse the newest one.

The old LX ususally troubles, when I use it too much it starts to run away with series of commands, doesn't answer on
keystrokes etc

Lars - in serious LX-trouble:)

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              Jornada 548, how??? Any utility for this???
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Hi there,

I still use my HP200LX every day, but have one HP Jornada, and I want to
transfer/translate my Phonebook and Appointments to the Jornada 548 Pocket
PC.

Anyone having experience with this??

Thanks for your help!!

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Hi

Isn't it enough to unscrew the 4 screws in the bottom if you
want to dismantle the LX?


Lars

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Further to my post asking about Derive v5 for DOS, other list members
may be interested in this informative reply I received from Philip Yorke
at Chartwell-Yorke. My questions to him are quoted ">":


  ------- Forwarded message follows -------

> Is there a v5.0 or is v4 the latest?

Version 4 is the latest DOS release.  The reference manual that accompanies
it however is the version 3 manual.

> If there is a v5.0, will it still run on the HP200 palmtop (a
> CGA screen with 8088 CPU)? I have read a review of v4.13
> which ran fine on the HP200.

The version 4 we have in stock is fine with the HP200 palmtop.  In fact
every purchaser of Derive for DOS for the last year has been a HP200 user.

> Are the DOS versions still sold? I heard that DOS Derive is
> unavailable now.

Yes.  TI have dropped the DOS version in the USA but it is still available
in Europe, and we happen to have a stock.

> If the DOS version is still available, what is the price for a
> single-user commercial licence?

85 Pounds plus vat, which comes to 99.87.  Delivery is free.

> If the DOS version is still available, is there a "bundle"
> price for the latest DOS & Windows versions together?

A Single-User Commercial Licence of Derive 5 for Windows is 99 Pounds plus
vat, which comes to 116.32.

There isn't a bundle price unfortunately, but we could offer you some
discount on both.  We could reduce the price for both from 184 + vat to 160
+ vat, which comes to 188 Pounds Sterling including vat.

They're in stock ready for immediate free delivery.  We also stock a wide
range of books on exploring mathematics with Derive, as detailed on our
website.  I hope we may be of further service and look forward to the
prospect of hearing from you.

Regards
Philip Yorke
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Philip gave me permission to post his replies. He also said that he
would repeat the offer price for a DOS & Windows version together.
However, he asked me to point out that he cannot sell the Windows
version within the US (licensing reasons). Also, the free delivery only
applies to the UK.

I'm off to turn my HP200 into a "super-calculator" and start a new hobby
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> Press ESC to return to your map from help.

Yes, that does just what I wanted.  I knew I was overlooking some obvious
answer.


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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:59:56 +0200
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Hello,
Have You looked at: http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html ?

Regards
Helge

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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:35 AM
Subject: Dismantling the LX


> Hi
>
> Isn't it enough to unscrew the 4 screws in the bottom if you
> want to dismantle the LX?
>
>
> Lars
>
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: GPS - waypoints - HP200 downloads?
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I am also interested, but:
the link seems to be not working or out of date.
Did you try it yourself?

thanks,
Werner


on 23 Jul 2001, at 13:52 Brown, William D wrote about:
Re: GPS - waypoints - HP200 downloads?

> I've not tried it yet but this seems about right:
>
> http://www.anali.demon.co.uk/gardwon.htm
>
> William D.Ll.Brown
>



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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:39:17 -0500
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Comments: To: martin@MOBILPOST.COM
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2001072218564534@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> from "Martin
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Martin:

Please pass these along to your friend.


G7TO:
http://einstein.fet.uni-hannover.de/~purnhage/gps/g7towin.htm

GARDOWN:
http://www.anali.demon.co.uk/gardown.htm

GPSCGA:
http://www.palmtop.net/super3.html

LXGPS:
http://members-http-2.rwc1.sfba.home.net/gregrenda/lxgps/


Well, these are some links for your friend.  I can't find the link
that displayed information on GPSCGA anymore, but we have the demo
version stored on the SUPER site which I note above.  I don't know
if the e-mail for them is any good - I'll send an inquiry tonight
and see if I get a reply.

-Chris Lott

p.s.  Update - still no reply from COMACS since I wrote this the
other night.


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hi Rick,

on 23 Jul 2001, at 13:50 Rick Kenneally - Wilton, CT wrote about:
Appliance timing

> Is there any product that would allow me to use the HP100/200 as an
> appliance timer?  I have a specialized tape recording application
> (radio hobbyist) that requires a tape recorder be turned on for a few
> minutes at a time many times per day.  The HP appointment calendar is
> powerful enough, if I had the right drivers and some kind of outlet
> switch.
>
> Anyone know of any old DOS-based apps/kits for doing this?
>
You can use a utility that can power on / off the serial port of the HP.
It is also used for switching the serial lamp Daniel built. I think you
could power a Photo MOS relais with this, and let it switch your radio on /
off.
There was a guy on the list who did exactly this. His name was Owen Morgan
and he lives on a sailingboat.

You can start the program whith your appointment database.
The Photo MOS relay uses nearly no power and I had one which could switch 1
or 2 A. It is secure for the serial port, no direct connection to the
radio.


73!
Werner
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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:35:19 +0100
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My mistake.

http://www.anali.demon.co.uk/gardown.htm

A typo.

I have downloaded it to a SRAM card and it runs, but as I did not connect my
eMap all I got was the usage.  So it could be that I did not execute any
code thread that requires > 80186.

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Hi Lars,

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:13:52 -0400, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:

> An accident happend, by mistake I stepped on my LX so the
> screen cracked.
>
> Everything else is OK, do you think I need a new screen or
> could it be enough perhaps with a pane of glass?

You definitely need a new screen.
I need one, too!
Your best option is probably to buy a used old palmtop (on ebay, for
example, may also be a 100LX, since it has the same screen).
Screens are rare and expensive, if you ever find one, you'll
have to pay 100-150 US$ for one.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Rick,

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:50:52 -0700, "Rick Kenneally - Wilton, CT" <woodlandview@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Is there any product that would allow me to use the HP100/200 as an
> appliance timer?  I have a specialized tape recording application
> (radio hobbyist) that requires a tape recorder be turned on for a few
> minutes at a time many times per day.  The HP appointment calendar is
> powerful enough, if I had the right drivers and some kind of outlet
> switch.

Should be no big problem. Owen Morgan (former list member) did a
similar kind of thing, IIRC.
You can launch a DOS application from the appointment book, so you
could launch a batch file which:

1. turns the COM port on (with Stefan Peichl's STCOM1, for example)
2. waits the time you need for recording
3. switches the COM port off again (SETCOM1 again)

or you make two appointments, one for switching on, one for switching
off.

And you build a device containing a transistor and a relay, which
enables the serial port to power the relay so you can use it to switch
your tape recorder.

GTX
daniel

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I cant believe theres a pdf viewer for palm & not for the lx
Surely Andreas Garzotto/Curtis Cameron etc could do it?

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The LX tasks facility seems v ltd ie only 1 list.
Does anyone know of a more sophisticated app with categories etc.
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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:55:49 +0200
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I have two lines of pixels at the top of my screen which remain white within
the title bar.

Does this require changing screens or are there simpler solutions ???

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400
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Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus program
says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: cover letter title


Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

See you later. Thanks



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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:54:27 -0700
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Comments: To: dvm123@GMX.CO.UK
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

this is the latest vbscript virus that's floating around right now. don't
open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express user, expect a
few copies of this email.

i've been a member of groups.yahoo.com for a while now and as far as i can
tell, my junk mail level hasn't increased (2 or 3 a day).


----Original Message Follows----
From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400

Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus program
says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: cover letter title


Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

See you later. Thanks



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p.s. the reason you keep getting it from the same place is that the sender
has your email address in his outlook address book, OR the sender recently
visited a web page that had your email address on it (the virus scans the
web page cache looking for email addresses).


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From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400

Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus program
says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.

Domingo

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From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: cover letter title


Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

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heh -- my response was nailed --- here it is again, cleaned up:


this is the latest v - b - s - c - r - i - p - t virus that's floating
around right now. don't
open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express user, expect a
few copies of this email.

i've been a member of groups.yahoo.com for a while now and as far as i can
tell, my junk mail level hasn't increased (2 or 3 a day).


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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400

Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus program
says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.

Domingo

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To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: cover letter title


Hi! How are you?

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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Martin Crundall wrote:

> heh -- my response was nailed --- here it is again, cleaned up:

No it wasn't.

> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:54:27 -0700
> From: Martin Crundall <ac6rm@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Fluff: Has anyone seen this?
>
> this is the latest vbscript virus that's floating around right now. don't
> open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express user, expect a
> few copies of this email.


bye,

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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Martin Crundall wrote:
>
> > heh -- my response was nailed --- here it is again, cleaned up:
>
> No it wasn't.

OK I stand corrected, but it seems only a single user had the mail
quarantined. Most list members should've gotten it just fine (like I
did)...


bye,

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Can I?

I want to view a table on a web site, cut it, and paste it into 123?

thanks for taking the time
Regards
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>ashoni arora wrote:
>I cant believe theres a pdf viewer for palm & not for the lx
>Surely Andreas Garzotto/Curtis Cameron etc could do it?

Wasn't there a dos version of PDF viewer out many years ago?
I seem to recall there was one.

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I cant believe theres a pdf viewer for palm & not for the lx
Surely Andreas Garzotto/Curtis Cameron etc could do it?

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:24:59 -0500
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> >ashoni arora wrote:
> >I cant believe theres a pdf viewer for palm & not for the lx
> >Surely Andreas Garzotto/Curtis Cameron etc could do it?
>
> Wasn't there a dos version of PDF viewer out many years ago?
> I seem to recall there was one.

This topic has been discussed in detail before.  THe summary I
remember is that indeed there was an old DOS version of an Adobe
PDF reader, but it wouldn't run on our 200LX, nor would it work
with most of modern PDF files.

The fundamental problem is that the PDF "format" is really a
wrapper for a lot of different types of file storage methods.  It
can be postscript-like, bit images, compressed, etc.  The parsing
of these plethora of formats is quite a task.

If anyone has any new information on this matter, I'm sure we
would enjoy hearing about it.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:05:10 -0400
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The LX tasks facility seems v ltd ie only 1 list.
Does anyone know of a more sophisticated app with categories etc.
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Martin Crundall wrote:

> heh -- my response was nailed --- here it is again, cleaned up:

No it wasn't.

> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:54:27 -0700
> From: Martin Crundall <ac6rm@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Fluff: Has anyone seen this?
>
> this is the latest vbscript virus that's floating around right now. don't
> open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express user, expect a
> few copies of this email.


bye,

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 03:49:09 +0200
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Chris Lott wrote:

> The fundamental problem is that the PDF "format" is really a wrapper
> for a lot of different types of file storage methods.  It can be
> postscript-like, bit images, compressed, etc.  The parsing of these
> plethora of formats is quite a task.

Add to that that the Palm viewer isn't really a PDF viewer. PDF files have
to be processed by another program on the desktop machine first. I assume
it prerenders certain elements of the file, resizes embedded images, and
generally reduces the complexity of the PDF file. This way, the Palm "PDF"
viewer can be kept light (I think it's ~30kb in size).

A similar technique should be possible on the LX, but it's not a simple
task.


bye,

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heh -- my response was nailed --- here it is again, cleaned up:


this is the latest v - b - s - c - r - i - p - t virus that's floating
around right now. don't
open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express user, expect a
few copies of this email.

i've been a member of groups.yahoo.com for a while now and as far as i can
tell, my junk mail level hasn't increased (2 or 3 a day).


----Original Message Follows----
From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400

Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus program
says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: cover letter title


Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

See you later. Thanks



>

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:19:51 +0200
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Martin Crundall wrote:
>
> > heh -- my response was nailed --- here it is again, cleaned up:
>
> No it wasn't.

OK I stand corrected, but it seems only a single user had the mail
quarantined. Most list members should've gotten it just fine (like I
did)...


bye,

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Can I?

I want to view a table on a web site, cut it, and paste it into 123?

thanks for taking the time
Regards
Tony

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:08:29 -0400
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Thanks for all the answers.   I thought I read somewhere there
is a way to disable the Windows Visual Basic engine, with no
effect on most things you do on the computer (or at least
disable it in Outlook).   This is supposed to effectively render
this type of virus harmless.   Anyone knows how?

TIA

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Crundall" <ac6rm@hotmail.com>
To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Cc: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Fluff: Has anyone seen this?


> this is the latest vbscript virus that's floating around right
now. don't
> open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express
user, expect a
> few copies of this email.
>
> i've been a member of groups.yahoo.com for a while now and as
far as i can
> tell, my junk mail level hasn't increased (2 or 3 a day).
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400
>
> Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
> with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus
program
> says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
> postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
> purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
> practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
> To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
> Subject: cover letter title
>
>
> Hi! How are you?
>
> I send you this file in order to have your advice
>
> See you later. Thanks
>
>
>
>  >
>
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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0107250339170.8372-100000@brok.diku.dk> from
              "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Jul 25, 2001 03:49:09 AM
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> Add to that that the Palm viewer isn't really a PDF viewer. PDF files have
> to be processed by another program on the desktop machine first. I assume
> it prerenders certain elements of the file, resizes embedded images, and
> generally reduces the complexity of the PDF file. This way, the Palm "PDF"
> viewer can be kept light (I think it's ~30kb in size).
>
> A similar technique should be possible on the LX, but it's not a simple
> task.

well, suppose for the moment that the desktop program is documented
somewhere, would it be possible then to write a similar dumbed-down
viewer for the 200LX palmtop, for viewing pre-processed files?

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:29:00 -0400
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On Tuesday 24 July 2001 21:49, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> Add to that that the Palm viewer isn't really a PDF viewer. PDF files have
> to be processed by another program on the desktop machine first. I assume
> it prerenders certain elements of the file, resizes embedded images, and
> generally reduces the complexity of the PDF file. ...

I "tinkered" with this program, or its "kin" in an early release. It was
AWFUL!

Imagine 1) having to read a letter (or A-4) sized document by scrolling a 3"
square window around it (couldn't seem to make it word-wrap; so I had to
scroll back and forth to read *EVERY* line) and the desktop "rendering"
program REALLY degrades the images. I was using a B&W, lower resolution Palm
at the time, but don't imagine that color or higher res. would help much.

My best solution is still a 200LX duct-taped to a Palm of some sort. I have a
color Clie' now İFrench for: "color palm" <grin> .... sorry Nathalie!¨, but
still need my 200LX on a daily basis.

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On Tuesday 24 July 2001 22:12, Chris Lott wrote:
...
> well, suppose for the moment that the desktop program is documented
> somewhere, would it be possible then to write a similar dumbed-down
> viewer for the 200LX palmtop, for viewing pre-processed files?

I like Chris' Idea. Let the 200LX have a (prob. better) way to view the
PDFs.... (at least it would be wider than the Palm's viewpoint) And, while
folks are programming, work out a point-and-click way to use Avantgo for
newsreading w/o having to configure any other software (like get, etc., that
I still have troubles with).

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Date:         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:50:50 -0400
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From:         Bruce Maggs <bmm@CS.CMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: pdf palm beats 200lx

There was indeed a version of Adobe Acrobat Reader than ran in DOS.
The readme.txt file for the version I have (Version 1.0) seems to
indicate that a color video card is required, and that the program
runs in protected mode (DOS4/GW).  There seem to be two executables,
acrobat.exe (44,129 bytes) and acromain.exe (1,406,121 bytes).  So
running this on the 200lx doesn't look promising.

There may be some web sites that will convert a pdf file to html or
text for you, and let you page through it.

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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:08:29 -0400 Domingo wrote:
>Thanks for all the answers.   I thought I read somewhere there
>is a way to disable the Windows Visual Basic engine, with no
>effect on most things you do on the computer (or at least
>disable it in Outlook).   This is supposed to effectively render
>this type of virus harmless.   Anyone knows how?

This isn't a visual basic script kind of virus. It's an executable
program, which disguises itself by using two filename extensions, such
as myfile.doc.com. The executable program contains its own SMTP e-mail
program, so it doesn't depend on Outlook or any other. It sends itself
to addresses in your Windows Address Book, and it goes through your
web browser's cache, looking for e-mail addresses, and sends itself to
those. It got several copies, mostly with Spanish messages.

As with the VB script worms, this one requires you to try to run the
attachment. It would seem like it would propagate better than ILOVEYOU
because it doesn't depend on Outlook, but I think corporate mail
systems effectively squash executable attachments nowadays.

--
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Subject:      Re: LX tasks
Comments: To: ashoni arora <ashoni@ONEBOX.COM>
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:05:10 -0400 ashoni arora wrote:
>The LX tasks facility seems v ltd ie only 1 list.
>Does anyone know of a more sophisticated app with categories etc.

DASoft's new program MM/LX could do this pretty well, letting you
arrange tasks hierarchically, however it doesn't have any way to
remind you when something is due.

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>Subject: Re: Fluff: Has anyone seen this?
>  Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:08:29 -0400
>   From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>
>Thanks for all the answers.   I thought I read somewhere there
>is a way to disable the Windows Visual Basic engine, with no
>effect on most things you do on the computer (or at least
>disable it in Outlook).   This is supposed to effectively render
>this type of virus harmless.   Anyone knows how?
>
>TIA
>
>Domingo

Domingo
I run WIN98Lite which is an installer that lets you omit a lot
of things from the
stock WIN98SE install. See http://www.98lite.net/98lite.html for
more.

I have not installed activeX which reduces window's tendancy to
do stupid things without
being told to (still looking for a cure for doing stupid things
after being told to....).

There is also a way to swith off the VB scripting in the
standard WIN98 install but I can't
remember where (and my help file won't open without activeX....)

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:57:25 +1200
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Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:35:19 +1200 (NZT)

I recommend PIM/LX.

08h30m09s ago ...
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:05:10 -0400, ashoni arora wrote:

> The LX tasks facility seems v ltd ie only 1 list.  Does
> anyone know of a more sophisticated app with categories etc.

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Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:36:46 +1200 (NZT)

I recommend ROBOWEB/LX. Just released and free<G>. It uses
GET.EXE but you don't have to configure it - just have it in
your DOS PATH. ROBOWEB takes care of everything<G>.

Just before release we worked out an almost point/click modus
operandi. See RWOUTBOX.DOC for that. Instructions for ROBOWEB
are stored in a POST/LX outbox. You just chose a site, press
"S" to activate it and go on-line. You do have to type a few
new lines into POST.CFG to configure it. ROBOT.CFG is not
needed with the RWOUTBOX.DOC setup. However the product was
developed using ROBOT.CFG, so the main docs are all based on
that, but all the same concepts apply to both methods.

ROBOWEB/LX comes with a couple of sample outboxes. One has
about 20 avantgo sites all ready to go.

What we found was that while the avantgo sites are nice and
small, they are not always as up-to-date as their "parents", so
we also made sure the program worked on a wide range of large
sites - especially for news.

ROBOWEB/LX will, for example, dig and retrieve pages from a
site that HV alone, online, will not do, due to some of the
complex relative addressing in use nowdays.

Anyway, I recommend to give it a try - maybe you can come up
wth a simpler setup than I did :)

The avantgo sites are easy to dig - basically you tell ROBOWEB
the "Depth" to go to, and the "MaxCount" or number of pages to
get. If you want to read the pages as an HTML tree offline you
also need to specify a directory for them to be stored in.

- Tony

04h51m38s ago ...
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:45:08 -0400, Tim wrote:

> And, while folks are programming, work out a point-and-click
> way to use Avantgo for newsreading w/o having to configure
> any other software (like get, etc., that I still have
> troubles with).

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this is the windows scripting host.  i believe it's c:\windows\wscript.exe.
if you don't want to run any scripts, just rename that file to something
else (like wscript.is.bad)

alternatively, you can go into windows explorer, then tools, then folder
options, then select "file types".  scroll down to the visual basic script
file types (there are a few of them -- look for anything that is opened with
wscript), and then remove the association.

at that point, you'll no longer be vulnerable.  some corporations actually
have their technology department do this on systems that are deployed.

wscript can actually be pretty useful, because within a script you have
access to any presented object model (such as excel, word, access, the file
system), and it has a reasonal control structure (loops, ifs, etc.), so it's
possible to do neat stuff with it.  the problem is that wscript has,
essentially, root priviledges on your system and -- because the average user
has no idea what the file type is or does -- this power is easy to exploit.
too bad.  as a programmer or system administrator, wscript is essentially
useless at this point because scripts have been made near impossible to
deploy, unless it's installed with a setup program (which really defeats the
purpose).

----Original Message Follows----
From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Fluff: Has anyone seen this?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:08:29 -0400

Thanks for all the answers.   I thought I read somewhere there
is a way to disable the Windows Visual Basic engine, with no
effect on most things you do on the computer (or at least
disable it in Outlook).   This is supposed to effectively render
this type of virus harmless.   Anyone knows how?

TIA

Domingo

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To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
Cc: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Fluff: Has anyone seen this?


 > this is the latest vbscript virus that's floating around right
now. don't
 > open the attachment.  if you're an outlook or outlook express
user, expect a
 > few copies of this email.
 >
 > i've been a member of groups.yahoo.com for a while now and as
far as i can
 > tell, my junk mail level hasn't increased (2 or 3 a day).
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
 > Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
 > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
 > Subject: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
 > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400
 >
 > Sorry to bother the list about this, but I keep getting emails
 > with attachments from the place below, and my antivirus
program
 > says the attachments contain a virus.   I wrote to the
 > postmaster about this with no answer.   Ever since Yahoo
 > purchased egroups my privacy seems to be gone.   If you have a
 > practical suggestion, feel free to write to me privately.
 >
 > Domingo
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
 > To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
 > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
 > Subject: cover letter title
 >
 >
 > Hi! How are you?
 >
 > I send you this file in order to have your advice
 >
 > See you later. Thanks
 >
 >
 >
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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:12:41 +0200
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On Tuesday, 24.07.2001 at 22:04 GMT, ashoni arora  wrote:
> I cant believe theres a pdf viewer for palm & not for the lx
> Surely Andreas Garzotto/Curtis Cameron etc could do it?
>
You need to be aware of the fact that Acrobat Reader for Palm OS
is not just a program on the Palm Pilot, it also has a PC component
that reformats the documents for the Palm device. This PC
component is the biggest and most complex part of the application.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:37:00 +0200
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OK, you CAN take it with you --- after conversion:
From a Windows machine: Use Ghostscript and GSview to convert a PDF file
page by page to BMP, PCX, JPG or what have you. Then copy all pages to the
LX and take LXpic to view...

Michel



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Lott İmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
> Sent: 25 July 2001 4:13
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: pdf palm beats 200lx
>
>
> > Add to that that the Palm viewer isn't really a PDF viewer.
> PDF files have
> > to be processed by another program on the desktop machine
> first. I assume
> > it prerenders certain elements of the file, resizes
> embedded images, and
> > generally reduces the complexity of the PDF file. This way,
> the Palm "PDF"
> > viewer can be kept light (I think it's ~30kb in size).
> >
> > A similar technique should be possible on the LX, but it's
> not a simple
> > task.
>
> well, suppose for the moment that the desktop program is documented
> somewhere, would it be possible then to write a similar dumbed-down
> viewer for the 200LX palmtop, for viewing pre-processed files?
>
> -Chris
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Hello,

>Add to that that the Palm viewer isn't really a PDF viewer.
>PDF files have to be processed by another program on the >desktop
machine first. I assume

Not true. It is recommended to preprocess, but not mandatory. Stock
PDF files are viewable, if you live with large storage req., slowness
and awkward layout of graphics.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Hi Malcolm,

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:55:49 +0200, Malcolm Shewan <mtshewan@FREE.FR> wrote:

> I have two lines of pixels at the top of my screen which remain white within
> the title bar.
>
> Does this require changing screens or are there simpler solutions ???

Horizontal lines? Oh dear...
Vertical lines are sometimes repairable, because for the vertical
lines, conductive rubber bands which are pressed against the contacts
of the LCD are responsible. These rubber bands are on the top and
bottom of the screen over the whole width.
Pressing slightly on the edge of the screen above or under the missing
lines lets them appear again most of the times and a durable fix MAY
also be possible by bending little metal latches which press these
rubber bands against the screen a little bit more tough.

Horizontal lines are a worse problem. Try also pressing on the edge
(see me LX repair page http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair). Do the
missing linse reappear?

For the horizontal lines, a piece of adhesive tape (with very thin lines
of conductive material in it) is glued at one side of the screen and
soldered onto the circuit board of the screen. It is not replaceable
and I don't know of a way to make it work again if some of the contacts
are loosened.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Domingo,

On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400, Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
> To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
> Subject: cover letter title
>
> Hi! How are you?
>
> I send you this file in order to have your advice
>
> See you later. Thanks
>

Hey, I've got exactly the same email yesterday with a strange
attachment. It is definitely spam. But IIRC, mine had another sender
address.
Simce I get larger emails directly on my desktop computer and receive
them with KMail (linux), it cannot hurt me, and I've also not run a
virus scanner against it, but I was not able to open the attachment,
and since there was no personal salutation, and since I didn't know the
sender, I decided to delete the mail without spending more effort to
open the attachment. KMail showed it as non-readable text and not as
attachment.

ATTENTION FOLKS! This attachment looked a little bit like a macro or
script for Outlook!

GTX
daniel

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I was looking into Ghostscript yesterday
(http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html). It seems like it might be a
candidate for adaptation to the LX, as the source code is available. The
last versions that ran in 16-bit mode were 2.61 and 3.33 (current version is
7.0). You can download GS v3.33 from
http://panda.bg.univ.gda.pl/pub/m&fdc/tools/; I can't find my link to v2.61
right now, but you should be able to do a Google search for it. One big
problem is that the earlier versions of Ghostscript were Postscript-to-text
converters, not pdf-to-text, and, as someone mentioned, pdf files cover a
lot of different compression schemes. Another problem with GhostScript is
that it needed at least an EGA video card. Still, the code bears looking
into.

A second program for which source code is available is xpdf. It is designed
for X-Windows systems, but there is a DOS version (again i386 or better)
that might be adaptable.

The old DOS Acrobat reader (acroread.exe) is available from a number of
sources, but I believe it requires at least an i386 to run.

Bob Feldman

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From: Bel, Michel İmailto:Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM¨
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:37 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: pdf palm beats 200lx


OK, you CAN take it with you --- after conversion:
From a Windows machine: Use Ghostscript and GSview to convert a PDF file
page by page to BMP, PCX, JPG or what have you. Then copy all pages to the
LX and take LXpic to view...

Michel
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Hi all
I need a (new)second docking station and

I'm willing to trade an ATA 96MB flash card
A brand new 1/3" ccd B&W pcb camera
NIB XTREE netsoftware and a NIB Stacker V4.9
UPGRADE for it.

yor pal al.................




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I've been trying to get OL2LX to work for me.
I can create the Outlook exported data file ok.
But when I try to load it on my LX, it freezes the machine.
I once lost all data due to the lock up.
(I've learned the value of a CURRENT backup---- too late)

On another note, does anyone have a flash memory card, say 20meg or =
more, for sale?

Thanks,
Bob Roberts


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charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR>
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</HEAD>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been trying to get OL2LX to work =
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me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can create the Outlook exported data =
file=20
ok.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But when I try to load it on my LX, it =
freezes the=20
machine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I once lost all data due to the lock=20
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(I've learned the value of a CURRENT =
backup---- too=20
late)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another note, does anyone have a =
flash memory=20
card, say 20meg or more, for sale?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob Roberts</FONT></DIV>
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Reply-To:     Jon Barrett <jonzann@NETZERO.COM>
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>
> Date:    Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:21:09 +0000
> From:    Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
> Subject:
. . . . . snip . . . . .
>
> There is nothing to do against that unless starting again from
> scratch and designing a program to become a COM file. Indeed
> you cannot use C for this job.
>
. . . . . snip . . . . .

Many older C compilers support "Tiny" mode which uses a common code/data
segment. Programs compiled and linked under this memory model can be
converted to .com files with EXE2BIN. I wouldn't expect VC++5.0 on or TC++5
on to support this,but they don't even target a 16-bit processor.

Jon
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At 01:20 PM 25/07/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Domingo,
>
>On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:37 -0400, Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Metropolitan Advisors Inc" <metroadv@flashpc.com>
>> To: <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:31 PM
>> Subject: cover letter title
>>
>> Hi! How are you?
>>
>> I send you this file in order to have your advice
>>
>> See you later. Thanks
>>
>
>Hey, I've got exactly the same email yesterday with a strange
>attachment. It is definitely spam. But IIRC, mine had another sender
>address.

Hi all

This may be the new virus I've just heard about NEW as of 17 July 2001 and
spreading FAST!!

Check http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.html for
detailed info. Its in the wild and classified level 4 virus.

It is nasty cause it has its own SMTP engine built in to spread and deletes
files from HD.

I wouldnt be too certain Linux is safe from this one either.

Regards to all

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:26:44 +0100
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Hi,
    One of my friends has just acquired a Nokia 3110 GSM mobile phone and
he's offering to sell me it. Will it work on a HP OmniGo 700LX
"Communicator" palmtop? If not, are there any other 'phones that will?
Is it possible to replace the DataCard modem and cable with one for a
different Nokia phone?

Thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:51:07 -0600
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There is a DOS (6.x) program, based on the xpdf programs, called
pdf-txt1.exe, that will convert some (but not all) pdf files to plain text.
It is in the file "pdftxt1.zip" at
http://www.funet.fi/pub/msdos/Simtel/txtutl/. I tried it on a 3-column
format text page and it reads line by line across, rather than per column,
so the page looks correct, but would be hard to edit.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:03:03 +0200
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Hi friends,

does anyone know of a UML (Universal Modeling Language) tool which
works under DOS (Palmtop)?
If anyone has experiences with UML and tools (not only DOS, but also
Linux), could you please contact me off list? I may still have a couple
of questions (just reading a book about OOP in conjunction with UML),
which are probably not of any interest for the other list members.

Thanks a lot
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 06:08:36 +1000
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Subject:      Virus alert: Please check
Comments: To: snappy.products@bigpond.com, info@brushmaster.com,
          Brian.R.Scott@BHPBilliton.com, jclark@babyeinsyein.com,
          jeff@babyeinstein.com, steph@mybrightstar.com, nxw988e@TNINET.SE
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Hi

There is a remote possibility I may have inadvertently sent you a computer
virus.

I just discovered I recieved a computer virus on 11 July and am checking my
system now. The virus is called W32.Magistr.24876@mm For info visit
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.magistr.24876@mm.html

All seems clear here except for recieving this. I thought it best to email
with possibility.

Let me know if any sign of this please

Regards

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Tony,
>
> I want to view a table on a web site, cut it, and paste it into 123?

Not to my knowledge. The closest thing might be to use CLIPVUE or
GRABBER. Check the doc's.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:43:53 +0100
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I used to get that problem with the *other* ol2lx from m. Husquavel (?sp).
Basically my Outlook calendar had entries it could not clean up.  Lots of
complaints from DBCHECK about null characters in notes, etc etc.  Curtis
*latest* version seems fine.  Make quite sure you are using the very latest.

Also...check you have no problems with your outlook calendar.  I often get
'conflicting entries' if I ever use it offline.   This is manifest by
messages when running OL2LX about 'custom form is not available'.   The only
fix is to view the calendar in table view (all events etc) and look for
crossed swords against an entry.  Fix them all!

You may be able to use the 'Inbox Repair Tool' but I'm not sure if it does
anything useful.  It can clean up the offline file, but I don't know if this
has any effect on the online file.   I guess you can experiment running
OL2LX with Outlook offline or online.   Of course if you are desktop-only,
you will only work Outlook online.

You can try DBCHECK or GARLIC on the ADB file produced by OL2LX.  I found
Garlic left it unusable.   But a clean report from DBCHECK is good.  If not,
perhaps you tell Curtis what kind of record it does not like - there are so
many variations of appointment usages!

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:36:35 -0700
Reply-To:     Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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I got the vertical lines.  Sent it in to Thaddeus and they repaired it and
overhauled the system as well.  Great service.
I sent it in from New Zealand too.
Cheers
Tony.

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Hi Malcolm,

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:55:49 +0200, Malcolm Shewan <mtshewan@FREE.FR> wrote:

> I have two lines of pixels at the top of my screen which remain white
within
> the title bar.
>
> Does this require changing screens or are there simpler solutions ???

Horizontal lines? Oh dear...
Vertical lines are sometimes repairable, because for the vertical
lines, conductive rubber bands which are pressed against the contacts
of the LCD are responsible. These rubber bands are on the top and
bottom of the screen over the whole width.
Pressing slightly on the edge of the screen above or under the missing
lines lets them appear again most of the times and a durable fix MAY
also be possible by bending little metal latches which press these
rubber bands against the screen a little bit more tough.

Horizontal lines are a worse problem. Try also pressing on the edge
(see me LX repair page http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair). Do the
missing linse reappear?

For the horizontal lines, a piece of adhesive tape (with very thin lines
of conductive material in it) is glued at one side of the screen and
soldered onto the circuit board of the screen. It is not replaceable
and I don't know of a way to make it work again if some of the contacts
are loosened.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:23:58 -0700
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Now that most of have have grasped the idea of converting *.bmp and *.jpg
/ *.jpeg files to icons and Icons to be displayed on the HP200LX (the
Screen: & More),
Phase TWO:
How to make a Folder display an Icon of an HP200LX Palmtop on a Windows
95/98/2000/ME/NT etc... instead of the bland yellow folder.
This will be aesthetically more pleasant to the eye, and make the folder
look "more special".
May someone post the steps ?

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:41:09 -0400
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Thanks to Guenther Helmut and Steve Carder, I was able to
experiment with earlier versions of PE, and indeed, they are all
faster and use less memory than the current version.   For most
people who do not use PIM/LX I would recommend version 2.1.   If
you are willing (like me) to part with most features, including
the spell checker, version 1.1 is even faster and uses about 10k
less of memory.   Either version will run much more confortably
under your programs which require an external editor.   They are
not as fast or small as some of the other editors mentioned
here, but for lack of a real PE lite from Andreas, this will
definitely help.

Domingo

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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:16:28 -0700
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Andrew King wrote:

> There is also a way to swith off the VB scripting in the
> standard WIN98 install but I can't
> remember where (and my help file won't open without activeX....)

We use two steps to do this: 1) Remove or rename WSCRIPT.EXE, in the
\WINDOWS or \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory;  2) Edit the file type associations
to remove entries for .VBS, .VB*, any that refer to Windows Scripting, and
any that point to WSCRIPT.EXE as the executable. (Go to My Computer, View,
Options, File Types)

Note that, even in MSWin 4.00 ("95"), which offers an option to remove
"Windows Scripting Host" under the add/remove windows components dialog,
WSCRIPT.EXE and the associations are often left intact - the same
procedure will work there.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 06:28:59 +0200
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Hi Philip

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:26:44 +0100, Philip Pemberton <philpem@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

>     One of my friends has just acquired a Nokia 3110 GSM mobile phone and
> he's offering to sell me it. Will it work on a HP OmniGo 700LX
> "Communicator" palmtop? If not, are there any other 'phones that will?
> Is it possible to replace the DataCard modem and cable with one for a
> different Nokia phone?

I think the 3310 doesn't have a built-in modem, so the only chance to
use this phone (at least if I am correct) is to get a special PCMCIA
card for that phone and replace the built-in data card by the
3310-specific data card. But I doubt that Nokia makes data cards for
these new phones. And of course you won't be able to dock the phone
directly onto the back of the 700LX, as you could with the 2110.

The easiest way would be a phone with built*in modem. Connect it either
with a serial data cable or, if you have WWW/LX with IrDA, to the
palmtop and go online.
So the 700LX's special communication features are useless, but you
could still use it as you would use a 200LX.

See my home page
http://www.dnaiel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx for details about mobile
internet access.

GTX
daniel


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Hi Russell,

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 03:10:47 +1000, Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> It is nasty cause it has its own SMTP engine built in to spread and deletes
> files from HD.
>
> I wouldnt be too certain Linux is safe from this one either.

If it is an executable, it cannot be run under Linux (OR not under
DOS/Windows, since the executable format is different).
If it is a kind of a script, which uses an interpreter, Linux is also
safe, because you would have to enable your mail program to execute
scripts of that kind. I don't know if this is even possible.

Of course, if one is so braindead and saves the attachment and tries to
exxecute it, just because he is courious, no system is really safe. ;-)
And if you do this under Linux, logged in as root, you shouldn't even
be allowed to work with a computer! :-)

GTX
daniel

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Domingo,

> Thanks to Guenther Helmut and Steve Carder, I was able to
> experiment with earlier versions of PE, and indeed, they are all
> faster and use less memory than the current version.   For most
> people who do not use PIM/LX I would recommend version 2.1.   If
> you are willing (like me) to part with most features, including
> the spell checker, version 1.1 is even faster and uses about 10k
> less of memory.   Either version will run much more confortably
> under your programs which require an external editor.   They are
> not as fast or small as some of the other editors mentioned
> here, but for lack of a real PE lite from Andreas, this will
> definitely help.

If it suites your need fine for you.

You were welcome.

Kind regards

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 04:45:43 -0400
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:26:44 +0100, Philip Pemberton wrote:

> Hi,

Hello there.

>     One of my friends has just acquired a Nokia 3110 GSM mobile phone and
> he's offering to sell me it.

Nokia 3110 is a very old phone. It came after the 2110(1), but it is a
simpler phone.

I am not sure if it can be used for datatransfers at all. Hmm yes maybe
it can. I think it could be used with Nokia Cellularware and then it
should be able to be used with Nokia Cellular Data suite.

> Will it work on a HP OmniGo 700LX
> "Communicator" palmtop?

No the connectors on the 700lx is only for the Nokia 21xx series.

> If not, are there any other 'phones that will?

Yes the Nokia 2110/2110i and also the 2190 can be used. And there are
also some other "2110 clones" from Philips out there that can be used.

> Is it possible to replace the DataCard modem and cable with one for a
> different Nokia phone?

I do not think so. There is some cards that work with Ericsson phones.
But I do not think that you can get it to work as the one that are
already there.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 04:46:00 -0400
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Hi

Maybe of interest for someone. (Daniel?)

I have not checked out the link myself.

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:43:58 -0400
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There's a similar thread going on on the NewtonTalk mailing list (which I
also subscribe to). The consensus over there was to run the PDF through
Adobe's on-line PDF-to-HTML converter and then view the HTML on, say,
WWW/LX.

<<<john>>>

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> From: Bel, Michel İmailto:Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:37 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: pdf palm beats 200lx
>
>
> OK, you CAN take it with you --- after conversion:
> From a Windows machine: Use Ghostscript and GSview to convert a PDF file
> page by page to BMP, PCX, JPG or what have you. Then copy all pages to the
> LX and take LXpic to view...

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WWLx doc's İdon't own it¨, or CLipVue or Grabber doc's? İwhere would i get
'em¨?

thanks for taking the time . . . . .
T
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP Staber İmailto:hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:10 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Cut and Paste with WWLX?
>
>
> Tony,
> >
> > I want to view a table on a web site, cut it, and paste it into 123?
>
> Not to my knowledge. The closest thing might be to use CLIPVUE or
> GRABBER. Check the doc's.
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>thanks for taking the time . . . . .</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>T</FONT>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:01:18 -0700
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I have two different HP200LXs that BOTH have bad alarms.

When an appointment is set, the 200lx correctly awakens and the alarm
goes off, but the computer locks up.

This requires a hard reset (ctrl/shift/on) with an alternate boot (5)
and setting a date earlier than the alarm.

This allows me to delete the appointment and carry on.

If I don't do the alt boot, the alarm immediately goes off and locks up.

Once I noticed an error message of "stack overflow".

This problem even happens with NO autoexec.bat and NO config.sys, so it
can't be other programs.

It also happens when I test the alarms in appt "options"

The other 200lx makes no sound, even when testing in appt options.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:25:28 -0500
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This morning I received 2 email viruses from names I don't know.

I also received a reply to my having mentioned on this list that
I haven't seen a Psion and asking if it's ok to send me some
pictures of a Psion.  This was from Beverly Carvalho.  It
contained quotes from the list.  It didn't contain an attachment
but I recieved it about the time I received the emails that did.

Suspicious, I did a search on the listserve archive for
"Carvalho" and found no mention of the name.  However I didn't
know if that searches the name of the sender so I opened each
month for this year and did a text search for that name.  It
wasn't found.  Either there is no Beverly Carvalho or that is
the name of a lurker.

Beverly Carvalho, if you exist, will you say so on the list?
Does anyone else know someone by this name?

The reason I'm concerned is that this seems like an odd
request....a request to send me some pictures of a system I just
said I have no knowlege of or interest in.  Although it may be
perfectly sincere, if it is a way to get me to accept an
attachement with a virus it could be pretty dangerous.

Is this paranoia?  Absolutely.  I've been receiving 2 or 3 email
viruses every month.  Sometimes more.  So far this month I've
recieved 10 or 12 of them and I'm getting nervous.  NAV catches
them.  But the ones I got yesterday and today and the day before
were not caught by NAV and I've notified Norton.  I know they
were viruses because I contacted one of the senders (someone I
know) and he had opened his attachment and is now dealing with
the virus, as are many of his friends.

They are emails, some from people I know, some not, containing
an attachment and explaining that the person sent this to me for
my advice.  The subject varies and the attachment name is a
thinly disguised executable such as FaxCover.doc.com.  Some have
a .bat ending and some a .exe ending.

So, Beverly Carvalho, if you're listening and you're an honest
and sincere and thoughtful person, I apologize for what I'm
implying and I'd like to know that I'm wrong.  But I really am
not interested in pictures of a Psion. :)

If you're not such a person I hope everyone on this list will be
alerted.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:53:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
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Has anyone seen these cards?  I see a list price at MobilePlanet.com for $499.

Could they actually hold 5GB of uncompressed data? AND at this price?


http://www.cmsperipheralsinc.com/products/Fire&Forget.htm

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:22:09 -0700
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> Suspicious, I did a search on the listserve archive for
> "Carvalho" and found no mention of the name.  However I didn't
> know if that searches the name of the sender so I opened each
> month for this year and did a text search for that name.  It

Probably a lurker. If you did the search on my archive site, the
search does include the message headers. The only part not
indexed is the Prev by Date, Next by Date, Prev by Thread,
etc. section to avoid false search hits.


> They are emails, some from people I know, some not, containing
> an attachment and explaining that the person sent this to me for
> my advice.  The subject varies and the attachment name is a
> thinly disguised executable such as FaxCover.doc.com.  Some have
> a .bat ending and some a .exe ending.

Probably the sircam worm that's going around. I've gotten it
well over 100 times this week. It's starting to get annoying :)

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:10:03 -0700
Reply-To:     Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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I've got my backup 200LX on auction at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1259126669

I migrated to a Palm <choke> last year and this has been sitting on my
shelf since I got it.  I hate to part with it because I love the platform
-- but I could use the money.

Just FYI.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:18:21 -0700
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> They are emails, some from people I know, some not, containing
> an attachment and explaining that the person sent this to me for
> my advice.  The subject varies and the attachment name is a
> thinly disguised executable such as FaxCover.doc.com.  Some have
> a .bat ending and some a .exe ending.

Same here.  Only the subject is "flashlight_art".

I rarely see virus warnings at work, but this week I've gotten about 4, all
from a sender named "David Livingston" (condolences to him as a virus
victim).

The attachments on each attempt were the same except for the ending
extension (.com .exe .bat) My email server at work purged all of them
except the one ending with ".pif" ... I stepped out that one myself.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:01:19 +0200
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Hi Bob

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:01:18 -0700, bobv <bobv@SOS.NET> wrote:

> When an appointment is set, the 200lx correctly awakens and the alarm
> goes off, but the computer locks up.
> İ...¨

Do you have a custom alarm melody set?
Try to delete the files alarm.q (hidden, you will ahve to remove its h
attribute first), and rename the alarm.snd (is this the correct file
name? I don't recall exactly), in case you have a custom alarm
melody, to something else (alrmsnd.old for example).

Then restart everything and see if it works.

If not, probably your appt.adb is corrupted.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:01:20 +0200
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Hi Donald,

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:53:55 -0700, Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM> wrote:

> Has anyone seen these cards?  I see a list price at MobilePlanet.com for $499.
>
> Could they actually hold 5GB of uncompressed data? AND at this price?

Yes. They are real 5GB hard drives. I heard of them before, and the
price is very good, especially compared to the IBM microdrives.
I saw a similar 2GB drive (made by Toshiba) at Cebit, Hannover,
in February, and I tried to get
the technical specs in order to see if they would work with the LX.
Unfortunately, I didn't get the specs, but I doubt that the power
comsumption is low enough to be operable in the LX's PCMCIA slot.

I inserted one of these 2GB drives into the LX, and tried to run lxcic to
see how it identified itself. It didn't spin up, and lxcic reported
nothing. I don't recall the exact behaviour, though.

I doubt CMS is manufacturing these drives themselves. They are probably
relabeled Toshiba drives.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:01:22 +0200
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Hi friends,

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 04:45:43 -0400, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> Nokia 3110 is a very old phone. It came after the 2110(1), but it is a
> simpler phone.

oops, I think I mixed the 3110 up with the 3310 in my last message.
Sorry. The 3310 is a quite new phone, but it doesn't have a modem
built-in either, as far as I know.

> I am not sure if it can be used for datatransfers at all. Hmm yes maybe
> it can. I think it could be used with Nokia Cellularware and then it
> should be able to be used with Nokia Cellular Data suite.

That means, it is only usable with a windows software, not with pure
DOS and a data card?

> No the connectors on the 700lx is only for the Nokia 21xx series.

It will not physically fit, but if one exchanges the data card against
the suitable one, and leads the cable out of the device, theoretically
every phone can be connected to the 700LX. But definitely not
back-packed as the 2110.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:01:24 +0200
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Hi Martin,

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 04:46:00 -0400, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> Maybe of interest for someone. (Daniel?)
> http://support.forum.nokia.com/support/at_command.zip

It seems to be an overview about the AT commands which can be used to
control the Nokia GSM phones. Great, thank you for that link!

But: What strange file format is this? Looks a littlebit like MS-Word,
but I tried to open it with StarOffice under Linux but to no avail...

Using a simple text editor, it is readable, but it is difficult.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:08:43 +0200
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thank you Robert for the link.

I tried it with my bus plans and the result is very good.
A little adjusting in some columns, and the file is ready for import
in Excel.

> There is a DOS (6.x) program, based on the xpdf programs, called
> pdf-txt1.exe, that will convert some (but not all) pdf files to plain
> text. It is in the file "pdftxt1.zip" at
> http://www.funet.fi/pub/msdos/Simtel/txtutl/. I tried it on a 3-column
> format text page and it reads line by line across, rather than per
> column, so the page looks correct, but would be hard to edit.
>



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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:10:47 -0500
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, bobv wrote:

> This problem even happens with NO autoexec.bat and NO config.sys, so it
> can't be other programs.
>
> It also happens when I test the alarms in appt "options"
>
> The other 200lx makes no sound, even when testing in appt options.
>
> Any ideas?

You might try deleting the hidden file "c:\_dat\alarm.q"
This will require changing the attributes first; go to DOS and type
"attrib -h -r c:\_dat\alarm.q" - you should them be able to see and
delete it with Filer.  Reboot and see if that helps.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:09:25 -0500
Reply-To:     "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Daniel...
   It's Microsoft Windows HLP (helpfile) format.  If you double-click the
file on a Windows machine, it opens the standard helpfile browser with
indexes, hotlinks, nicely formatted text and tables.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Hertrich İmailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE¨
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: AT commands for Nokia phones
İ... snip ...¨
>
> But: What strange file format is this? Looks a littlebit like MS-Word,
> but I tried to open it with StarOffice under Linux but to no avail...

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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:29:23 +0200
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Subject:      Re: GPS - waypoints - HP200 downloads?
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hi William,

> http://www.anali.demon.co.uk/gardown.htm
>
> I have downloaded it to a SRAM card and it runs, but as I did not
> connect my eMap all I got was the usage.  So it could be that I did
> not execute any code thread that requires > 80186.
>
> William D.Ll.Brown
>
I tried it tonight, it works on the HP200. I downloaded my waypoints,
and the GPS time, switched off the Garmin with the HP200. All
functions I tried were ok.

thank you for the link,
Werner



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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:59:40 -0400
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Hello list,
Can someone tell me who maintains the SUPER site. I need to
email some updates. Tried super@palmtop.net but no
response.

Thanks,
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Date:         Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:40:29 EDT
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Barry,
I received the virus from someone at the Yale Medical School. How he got my
email address I have no clue. I emailed the webmaster to let them know. They
were prompt in dealing with the matter and quickly diagnosed the virus. Mine
was named weirdly, but was a bat file.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:23:46 +0200
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I am sorry to have to announce to my friends who are waiting for me to reply
that, due to an attachment to an e-mail message of at least 10mB in my
In-Box at my Wanadoo Server, I have been unable to download any messages. I
have not been successful to delete this offending message from my Server
because 1. Wanadoo "messagerie" via their webpage shows that they are having
problems due to heavy vacation traffic, and 2. because Meloo.com shows a
fault. I have called Wanadoo's help line in Paris, but they are absolutely
useless. I have now no choice but ask our local library with their digital
phonelines and fast modems on Saturday to download the 10mB within 10-20
minutes, which would take approx. 6 hours with my machine costing 49
centimes per minute. The library charges 12 Francs per hour.

Thank you for the bandwidth.
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on 7/27/01 7:23, Nathalie Bugeaud at tps-seti@WANADOO.FR wrote:

> I am sorry to have to announce to my friends who are waiting for me to re=
ply
> that, due to an attachment to an e-mail message of at least 10mB in my
> In-Box at my Wanadoo Server, I have been unable to download any messages.=
 I
> have not been successful to delete this offending message from my Server
> because 1. Wanadoo "messagerie" via their webpage shows that they are hav=
ing
> problems due to heavy vacation traffic, and 2. because Meloo.com shows a
> fault. I have called Wanadoo's help line in Paris, but they are absolutel=
y
> useless. I have now no choice but ask our local library with their digita=
l
> phonelines and fast modems on Saturday to download the 10mB within 10-20
> minutes, which would take approx. 6 hours with my machine costing 49
> centimes per minute. The library charges 12 Francs per hour.
>=20
> Thank you for the bandwidth.
> Nathalie
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vente dans tous les kiosques en ce moment) called Trucs et Astuces. There i=
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hi,

our previous member Owen Morgan asked me to post this mail in the List,
which I do now for him.

Werner

------- Forwarded message follows -------

Hi Werner.

Could you please post this on the HPLX-L for me?

Dear everyone.

As you may remember, I was quite active on the list for a while last =
winter
after buying a HP200LX to use as a shortwave weatherfax decoder. I'm=20
pleased
to report that the LX is now in daily use for weatherfax and performs =
well.

When I first joined the HPLX-L, I commented to the list that I'd =
noticed a
marked increase in spam since I joined. It has recently been brought to =
my
attention that there is an online archive for the HPLX-L at
http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/hplx-l/ where the messages from the list =
with
e-mail addresses are all openly accessible.

As most of those who have been on the net for more than a few months =
know,
the cretins who send spam e-mails have special software which searches =
the
web for e-mail addresses. Web-based discussion groups, Usenet =
newsgroups and
online mailing list archives are prime targets for these people as =
these
resources have a large amount of e-mail addresses in one place. Not =
only do
the SpamBots send unwanted advertising for everything from various "get =
rich
quick" schemes to porn sites to the addresses they collect, but they =
also
compile CD's with millions of e-mail addresses and sell to other =
bastards in
the same business. For me Spam has become an expensive problem as my =
only
access to the Internet is via a GSM cell phone which is both slow and
expensive.

I would strongly suggest that the users on this list ask the person who =
has
set up the archive on the web to disguise the e-mail addresses. I have
always been very careful of my e-mail address, and when I joined the =
HLPX-L,
I had no idea my messages and my e-mail address would appear on the =
web. If
I had known this, I would not have posted a single message to the list, =
at
least not from that address. A search on www.alltheweb.com and several =
other
search engines confirms that the HPLX-L archive is the only place my =
e-mail
address appears. I don't even have it on my own web site.

There is now an online archive for the UPS5 (Psion / EPOC list) and =
Henri
Spagnolo who has set up the archive has agreed (after some discussion) =
to
replace the @ character in all the e-mail addresses with ¬ups5¬ in =
order to
fool the spambots. Maybe something similar could be done on the HPLX-L
archive?

PS. I'm a sleeping member at present so I do not receive messages =
posted to
the list. I'll leave you guys to discuss this and decide if anything is =
to
be done. If you need any further input from me, you can contact me off =
list
at <ohmorgan¬HPLX-L¬iname.com>

Thanks

Owen
--=20
@ 68=B048.08'N 16=B032.73'E
Harstad in Nordland, Northern Norway.
Still on my yacht heading north!
------- End of forwarded message -------

-- =20
PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc=20
SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at=20
Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com=20

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:18:26 -0400
Reply-To:     John Ruschmeyer <jruschme@MAC.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Ruschmeyer <jruschme@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Who is Beverly Carvalho?
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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Best laugh I've had yet this morning... having a virus diagnosed by the Yale
Medical School webmaster.

<<<John>>>
----------
> Date:    Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:40:29 EDT
> From:    Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Who is Beverly Carvalho?
>
> Barry,
> I received the virus from someone at the Yale Medical School. How he got my
> email address I have no clue. I emailed the webmaster to let them know. They
> were prompt in dealing with the matter and quickly diagnosed the virus. Mine
> was named weirdly, but was a bat file.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:08:01 -0400
Reply-To:     KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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From:         KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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>John Ruschmeyer wrote:
>Best laugh I've had yet this morning... having a virus diagnosed by the Yale
>Medical School webmaster.

I don't consider viruses to be a laughng matter.  I find it akin
to coming into my place of business, dousing it with
gasoline and lighting a match.   Pure vandalism, pure
evil.   I also worked for a former employer who
had hundreds of machines infected many years ago.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:54:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Server Problems
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
In-Reply-To:  <002f01c1165d$6e889920$5ae8f8c1@oemcomputer>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Try this:

use telnet to connect to your pop mail server at port 110 (look at the telnet options where you can specify port number. it's
usually set to port 23)

after you connect type 'user {NAME}' whereh '{NAME}' is your pop mail login

then type 'pass {PASSWD}' where '{PASSWD}' is your pop mail password.

then type 'list ' and it should list your mail messages and byt sizes.

find the big message and type 'dele {#}' and the msssage will be marked for deletion.

type 'quit' and it will disconnect and delete marked messages.


Here's an example of how it looked for my pop mail account:


telnet pop.mail.yahoo.com 110  <-- I typed this
+OK hello from popgate
user myusername  <-- I typed this
+OK password required.
pass mypassword <-- I typed this
+OK maildrop ready, 50 messages (
list <-- I typed this
+OK 50 messages (482038 octets)
1 947
2 21589
3 2158
4 3430
5 17386
6 2767
7 11546
8 5805
9 1030
10 4019
11 21989
12 84900
13 1759
14 1260
15 21460
16 7771
17 61678
18 4558
19 22460
20 16107
21 973
22 2084
23 4602
24 21699
25 932
26 2890
27 4463
28 5320
29 3483
30 1404
31 4636
32 4633
33 4635
34 4636
35 3023
36 1704
37 3025
38 1660
39 18957
40 3891
41 1747
42 3641
43 5223
44 10390
45 2163
46 2153
47 34718
48 2540
49 2016
50 4178
.
delete 50 <-- I typed this
+OK message 50 marked deleted
quit <-- I typed this



> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of
> Nathalie Bugeaud
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:24 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: FLUFF: Server Problems
>
>
> I am sorry to have to announce to my friends who are waiting for me to reply
> that, due to an attachment to an e-mail message of at least 10mB in my
> In-Box at my Wanadoo Server, I have been unable to download any messages. I
> have not been successful to delete this offending message from my Server
> because 1. Wanadoo "messagerie" via their webpage shows that they are having
> problems due to heavy vacation traffic, and 2. because Meloo.com shows a
> fault. I have called Wanadoo's help line in Paris, but they are absolutely
> useless. I have now no choice but ask our local library with their digital
> phonelines and fast modems on Saturday to download the 10mB within 10-20
> minutes, which would take approx. 6 hours with my machine costing 49
> centimes per minute. The library charges 12 Francs per hour.
>
> Thank you for the bandwidth.
> Nathalie
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:11:03 +0100
Reply-To:     chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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From:         Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: UML tool?
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> If anyone has experiences with UML and tools (not only DOS, but also
> Linux), could you please contact me off list? I may still have a couple
> of questions (just reading a book about OOP in conjunction with UML),
> which are probably not of any interest for the other list members.

It doesn't matter what you talk about, you'll always find
somebody on this list interested in it. I love OO analysis/
design/programming, UML and CASE tools. I'll write more
off-list.

--

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:34:14 -0400
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: (Fwd) HPLX-L archive and Spam.
In-Reply-To:  <3B616D42.25855.15831BE@localhost>
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It's very hard to avoid getting your email address spammed. I would suggest to owen that he look at www/lx. It downloads headers and
subject lines first. You can then select the messages to download and delete. it will only send the messages of interest to you and
delete the rest. Another possibility is the use of an IMAP server. It's an even better implementation of email as it uses a
synchronization model as opposed to the download model that pop mail uses.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of
> Dr. Werner Furlan
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:32 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: (Fwd) HPLX-L archive and Spam.
>
>
> hi,
>
> our previous member Owen Morgan asked me to post this mail in the List,
> which I do now for him.
>
> Werner

snip

> For me Spam has become an expensive problem as my only
> access to the Internet is via a GSM cell phone which is both slow and
> expensive.
>

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:34:15 -0400
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Server Problems
In-Reply-To:  <NFBBIIMKOLAOGFKOJCHDIEJLCFAA.ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

BTW: post/lx download headers w/out the message body. You can then select mail messages to be deleted w/out downloading.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Ed
> Padin
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:54 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: FLUFF: Server Problems
>
>
> Try this:
>
> use telnet to connect to your pop mail server at port 110 (look at the telnet options where you
snip

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:54:20 -0500
Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Subject:      Re: VIRUS WARNING  Sircam was Re: Fluff:  Has anyone seen this?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> If it is an executable, it cannot be run under Linux
> (OR not under DOS/Windows, since the executable
> format is different). If it is a kind of a script, which
> uses an interpreter, Linux is also safe, because you
> would have to enable your mail program to execute
> scripts of that kind. I don't know if this is even possible.

You're probably safe on linux from windows viri or worms, etc.
But linux is a unix variation and these things were invented in
unix.  Their early development was done in unix.

I suspect at this point windows has surpassed unix in the number
and variety of it's infections but I'd be surprised if linux is
germ-free.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:12:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Subject:      Re: Who is Beverly Carvalho?
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Mike Kopplin wrote:
> Probably a lurker. If you did the search on my
> archive site, the search does include the message
> headers. The only part not indexed is the Prev by
> Date, Next by Date, Prev by Thread, etc. section
> to avoid false search hits.

David Sargeant (thanks, David) sent the address to send to to
get a list of list members and I looked at each name and email
address and found no-one who seems like they might be Beverly
Carvalho on this list.  I also did a Yahoo peope search and
found a "Richard Beverly Carvalho" in California but I have no
reason to think that's the one who sent me the message.  And
he's not on our list of names, either.

I suspect that it was a ruse of some sort to get me to open a
virus email.  But since it did contain appropriate quotes from
this list I doubt if it was automated.  But who knows.

I suggest everyone be doubly careful.  It's easy to trust an
attachment you've asked for and someone who has access to these
messages might be pretty malicious.

I also got an answer from Norton Antivirus about why it isnt
catching these virus emails.  Here's a quote from their answer:

"This is an issue that is currently being addressed. Because
Sircam worm uses its own SMTP engine to create an SMTP message,
it contains mime boundary markers that cause Norton AntiVirus to
think
that no attachment is present in the email message. Your
computer will
be safe as Auto-Protect will detect the Sircam worm when the
attachment is executed before it can infect your system"

I always leave email protection running but auto-protect turned
off.  But now that's changed.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:47:46 +0200
Reply-To:     Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Server Problems
In-Reply-To:  <NFBBIIMKOLAOGFKOJCHDIEJLCFAA.ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Le Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:54:13 -0400
Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO=2ECOM> a =E9crit:

> use telnet to connect to your pop mail server at port 110=20

Better way for beginners : go to on one of the several "mail on web"
gateways=2E

My favorite is http://www=2Epandamail=2Enet =2E


Jacques=2E

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:56:48 -0500
Reply-To:     TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF:FS:FA: Delorme Tripmate
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello! I've got a Delorme Tripmate on eBay. Please check the link below if
intyerested. Thanks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1259308230

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:42:38 +0200
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Server Problems
In-Reply-To:  <20010727174513.AED2.JBELIN@altern.org>
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Jacques Belin wrote:

> > use telnet to connect to your pop mail server at port 110
>
> Better way for beginners : go to on one of the several "mail on web"
> gateways.
>
> My favorite is http://www.pandamail.net .

You would send your mail login and password information unencrypted back
and forth on the 'net? apart from that, you run the risk it that Pandamail
doesn't either already log all logins+passwords, or has been hacked and a
logger installed. I would never willingly use such services...

Under regular use, your login info only travels unencrypted from your
house to your ISP's mail-server (so unless you're travelling or accessing
your mail remotely, it never leaves your ISP's network segment). That I
can live with...


bye,

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:14:13 -0400
Reply-To:     "M. Lennartz" <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "M. Lennartz" <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
Subject:      POST/LX - further feature
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi folks,

using POST/LX or another email-program, sometimes I'ld like to choose
an alternative signature file. I know, that it is easy to change this
file in the setup. Nevertheless it would be a nice feature to pick a
signature: offer the standard signature file and give the possiblity to
select at the begin of the composing.

But may be, that I am the only one missing this feature?

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:00:55 -0600
Reply-To:     Donald Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Donald Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
Subject:      Viewing note in MM/LX
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

If I use the ENTER key to view a note in MindMap, the lines run off the
screen. If I try to zoom or press any other keys to wrap the text it takes
me back to the map.

If I use F3 (Edit), which I have associated with PE, I can set the margin
to wrap. When I quit the edit, PE prompts me to save the file. I do and
then the ENTER key works fine. This seems to save a temp file though, not
the original.

I'm playing around with the demo version, so these problems might not exist
in the full program. I've noticed this wrapping problem in PIM and, I
think, Pro/LX. Has anyone found a way to deal with it? Is it something that
could be addressed in the code? Since I can't zoom, could an arbitrary
margin be set or a "wrap=?" line be added to the CFG? I'd rather not
preformat all my files if I can help it.

Thanks,
Don

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:31:39 -0700
Reply-To:     Greg Renda <greg@RENDAFAMILY.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Greg Renda <greg@RENDAFAMILY.COM>
Subject:      LXGPS 1.7 now available

LXGPS 1.7 is now available from http://lxgps.rendafamily.com.

LXGPS interfaces your HP 100/200LX palmtop to a GPS receiver that
communicates using the standard NMEA 0183 protocol over a serial line.

LXGPS includes the following features:

    + moving map display using user supplied maps in PCX format.
    + navigation to user defined waypoints including graphical bearing
      indicator, distance to waypoint and estimated time enroute.
    + satellite tracking and signal strength display.
    + route track, logging and playback.
    + setting of palmtop time from GPS time.

I've added a navigation display to the map screen as well as a few other
fixes and tweaks.  Enjoy!

-Greg

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Date:         Sat, 28 Jul 2001 12:18:46 +1200
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX - further feature
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Sat, 28 Jul 2001 12:09:35 +1200 (NZT)

Michael, At the beginning of composing press F2 (Add) and
choose "Signature". This gives you a "Signature" field at the
bottom of the compose screen. Place the highlight there and
press F6 to select a file.

Yo can use "F4" to save the template with your standard
signature in the "Signature" field.

This alternative way of adding a signature may be what you
want. It is easy to change the signature at compose time by
pressing F6 and typing "*.sig" for example which causes
PICK.EXE to bring up a display of your signature files.

- Tony

04h55m22s ago ...  On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:14:13 -0400,
M. Lennartz wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> using POST/LX or another email-program, sometimes I'ld
> like to choose an alternative signature file. I know, that
> it is easy to change this file in the setup. Nevertheless
> it would be a nice feature to pick a signature: offer the
> standard signature file and give the possiblity to select
> at the begin of the composing.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:11:48 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Conversion(s) help...
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.OSF.4.21.0107261506530.18566-100000@worf.netins.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Darn near a "Fluff" but it's really an HPLX question.

I was looking into my conversions in my calculator (200LX, if there's a
dif.) and couldn't find anything that could deal w/ "cc's" and flow rates
(as in medical measurements and fluid measurement (both capacity and flow).
I need to convert small and large numbers of fluid measurement into things I
can understand...... OK, maybe that last part is beyond even the LX <grin>,
but I'm trying to figure out (among other things), if "cc's per second
(flow) is equiv. to milliliters/second ....

I think it's the same thing, right? <he asks in his best, USA- "but we
weren't REALLY raised on the metric system, how should I understand" voice>.

TIA for any help AND any help in finding more conversion/comparison
programs, functions and utilities.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:01:09 -0700
Reply-To:     Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Conversion(s) help...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> but I'm trying to figure out (among other things), if "cc's per second
> (flow) is equiv. to milliliters/second ....

I don't have a program to recommend, but:

- there are 1000 milliliters in 1 liter (by definition)
- 1 liter of volume is expressed by a cube w/ 1 meter sides (or 10 cm per
side)
- so 1 liter is equivalent to 10cm x 10cm x 10cm = 1000 cm¬3
- a cm¬3 is a cubic centimer, so there are 1000 cc per 1000 milliliter
- so 1 cc = 1 milliliter

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:32:58 +0000
Reply-To:     fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tranderferring/Converting HP200LX Phonebook/Appointment to
              HP,Jornada 548, how??? Any utility for this???
Comments: To: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <robbert@HERKSEN.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

> Hi there,
>
> I still use my HP200LX every day, but have one HP Jornada, and I want to
> transfer/translate my Phonebook and Appointments to the Jornada 548 Pocket
> PC.
>
> Anyone having experience with this??

At least, in the past, the cd hp included with the Win-ce devices had a
way to convert although I think it went thru Schedule+ or something
similar.   There were two cd's.  One was the routine win-ce stuff and
the other HP add-ons.

Good luck

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Tim wrote:
>but I'm trying to figure out (among other things), if "cc's per second
>(flow) is equiv. to milliliters/second ....
>I think it's the same thing, right? <he asks in his best, USA- "but we
>weren't REALLY raised on the metric system, how should I understand"
voice>.

When I did Chemistry waaaay back in school, the teacher said that a litre
was originally defined as 1000 cc's, but sometime later when measuring
systems got a bit smarter, someone discovered that the Standard Litre that
everyone had been using for years was slightly out of spec. I can't
remember the figure, but it was something like 1000.0003 cc's.
Anyway, the solution for the science world was to define a new measure,
the millilitre, which is DEFINED as 1000th of a litre, thus inverting the
original standard. Hence a ml is something like 1.0000003 or maybe
0.99999997 cc's. Dunno which and dunno the actual number, but you get the
picture.
The Cubic Centimetre remains as a measure of volume for such things as
engines, where the capacity is calculated from dimensions measured in
centimetres, so truly represents cubic centimetres. If we measured
engines by pouring a liquid down the plug hole at bottom-dead-centre,
then we'd use millilitres as the engine capacity measure, but we don't,
so we don't
To all everyday intents and purposes, the ml and the cc are the same, it's
only the science world that needs the perfect accuracy of the ml.

Cheers, and thank you for your collective patience

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---- Original message ---- İ from acorso@attglobal.net ¨

PFA comes on a card and, apparently, the card must be in the slot in order to
run PFA.

I've tried copying all the files on the PFA card  over to the root directory
of the 20mb card, no dice, wont work.

It's a pain to keep switching cards, and inevitably i find myself at the NYMEX
with one of the cards at home İso i shouldn't trade or i shouldn't eat¨.

Any suggestions?

---- End of Original message ----

Don't: stop trading
       stop eating

Do: 1. create a subdirectory on your A: drive (e.g., A:\PFA)
    2. copy all files from PFA card to this new directory
    3. create a subdirectory on your C: drive (e.g., C:\PFA)
    4. from the C:\PFA directory, run A:\PFA\PFA.EXE either by
       typing it in or from a batch file containing that command

I've been using PFA that way since way back in '94, and have been both trading
and eating well ever since.

Marty

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Michael,

> Hi folks,
>
> using POST/LX or another email-program, sometimes I'ld like to choose
> an alternative signature file. I know, that it is easy to change this
> file in the setup. Nevertheless it would be a nice feature to pick a
> signature: offer the standard signature file and give the possiblity to
> select at the begin of the composing.
>
> But may be, that I am the only one missing this feature?

No, you are not the only one using this feature.

When composing a message press F2 for ADD, then select Signature.

I checked help. F1 and did a search F7 "signature". You will find
further information there too.


Kind regards

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Did anyone try ROBOWEB/LX?

If somebody is interested I would like to share a working setup for:

   - Sueddeutsche Zeitung
      - News Sticker
      - Streiflicht
      - Wirtschaft
      - ....
   - Handelsblatt
   - Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
   - Financial Time Deutschland
   - New York Times
   - The Times
   - Wettervorhersage f|r (wetteronline.de)
            - Frankfurt
            - Hamburg
            - M|nchen
            - N|rnberg
            - R|gen
            - Stuttgart
            - Genf
            - Locarno
            - St. Moritz
            - Z|rich
            - Bozen
            - Elba

e.g. The weather forecast for Munich looks like this:

                              WetterOnline

+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Bookmark       | Vorhersage   |                   |                  |
|                | f|r die      |                   |                  |
|                | Region       |                   |                  |
|                | M|nchen      |                   |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Graphik        | Sa, 28.07.   | So, 29.07.        | Mo, 30.07.       |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Hvchst-        | 290C         | 280C              | 240C             |
| Temperatur     |              |                   |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Tiefst-        | 150C         | 160C              | 170C             |
| Temperatur     |              |                   |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Vormittag      | sonnig       | meist sonnig      | unterschiedlich  |
|                |              |                   | bewvlkt          |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Nachmittag     | sonnig       | unterschiedlich   | unterschiedlich  |
|                |              | bewvlkt, Schauer  | bewvlkt          |
|                |              | und Gewitter      |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| (c)            |              |                   |                  |
| WetterOnline   |              |                   |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
| Vorhersage     | Trend        | Windvorhersage    |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
|                | E-Mail       |                   |                  |
|                | drucken      |                   |                  |
+----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------------+
+------------+-----------+-----------+-------+--------+-----+-----+--------+
| Vorhersage | Aktuelles | R|ckblick | Klima | Pollen | Bio | Geo | Webcam |
|            | Wetter    |           |       |        |     |     |        |
+------------+-----------+-----------+-------+--------+-----+-----+--------+
          +-------------------------------------+------------+
          | Millionengewinn - Kostenlos tippen! | Edelhandys |
          +-------------------------------------+------------+


You might run it from robot.cfg or you will have full control from the outbox.

I would like to thank Tony Hutchins for providing this outstanding
tool. I use it daily.

Anyone else who will like to share his setup?

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Michael,
>
> Nevertheless it would be a nice feature to pick a
> signature: offer the standard signature file and give the possiblity to
> select at the begin of the composing.

In the message composition process POST/LX lets you F2-Add Attachments,
Headers, SIGNATURES ....

Give it a try. Best thing would be to remove the signature from the
setup and add it each time you compose/reply. Alternative would be to
have just your name as std sig file and then add the specifics with
F2-Add.

This way I have added a second sig below.

HP Staber/Salzburg
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Baerbel Staber/Salzburg


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Date:         Sat, 28 Jul 2001 04:06:41 -0400
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Hi Tony, HP and Guenther Helmuth,

Tnx for your help. I knew, that POST/LX is a veryx good and usefull
app, but I am surprised, that it matches _every_ wish.

The _additional_ sig-file is even better then my idea of selectable
siignature.

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Hi Barry,

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:54:20 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> You're probably safe on linux from windows viri or worms, etc.
> But linux is a unix variation and these things were invented in
> unix.  Their early development was done in unix.
>
> I suspect at this point windows has surpassed unix in the number
> and variety of it's infections but I'd be surprised if linux is
> germ-free.

Even if you get a unix / linux virus, you would have to be logged in as
root in order to let it do something really serious.
And since in *nix systems nearly everything is by far more transparent
and controllable than in windows environments, you have even more
chances to avoid any damage to your data.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Barry

..in addition to my previous post:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:12:45 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> "This is an issue that is currently being addressed. Because
> Sircam worm uses its own SMTP engine to create an SMTP message,
> it contains mime boundary markers that cause Norton AntiVirus to
> think
> that no attachment is present in the email message. Your
> computer will

ah, so that seems to be the reason why my mail program under linux
didn't show this as an attachment, but as (unreadable) text.
One more advantage ;-)

I'm happy to have quit the windows world nearly completely!

GTX
daniel

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Don,

please check your mm.cfg.

mm.cfg
; CFG file for MM/LX

İSystem¨
...
Notes=c:\bin\list.com
; or
;Notes=c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\pim\pe.exe

You might define a viewer, which suits your needs. I hope this will
help.

Kind regards

Helmuth



> If I use the ENTER key to view a note in MindMap, the lines run off the
> screen. If I try to zoom or press any other keys to wrap the text it takes
> me back to the map.
>
> If I use F3 (Edit), which I have associated with PE, I can set the margin
> to wrap. When I quit the edit, PE prompts me to save the file. I do and
> then the ENTER key works fine. This seems to save a temp file though, not
> the original.
>
> I'm playing around with the demo version, so these problems might not exist
> in the full program. I've noticed this wrapping problem in PIM and, I
> think, Pro/LX. Has anyone found a way to deal with it? Is it something that
> could be addressed in the code? Since I can't zoom, could an arbitrary
> margin be set or a "wrap=?" line be added to the CFG? I'd rather not
> preformat all my files if I can help it.
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
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For our English friends I will forward an example to give you an idea,
what you will get using ROBOWEB/LX. If you miss advertisement, then this
is intended.

Kind regards

Helmuth

************

NY Times

Friday, July 27, 2001

Today's Business News

Amerada Hess Agrees to Buy Triton Energy for $2.6 Billion
By MICHAEL BRICK
The Amerada Hess Corporation will buy Triton Energy Limited for about $2.6
billion in cash, the companies said today.

Stocks End Lower on Earnings Jitters
By REUTERS
Stocks fell today after a bleak outlook from Corning, the world's leading
fiber-optic cable maker, kept investors on edge.

Compaq Announces 4,000 More Job Cuts
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Compaq Computer Corp. said today it was cutting 4,000 more jobs, bringing
the total number of workers it plans to cut this year to 8,500.

Excluded From Comcast Talks, Malone Resigns AT&T Board
By SIMON ROMERO
John Malone, the cable television magnate who is one of the AT&T Corporation's
largest individual shareholders, resigned today from the company's board
earlier than planned after he was excluded from talks related to the Comcast
Corporation's offer to buy AT&T's cable systems.

Time Inc. Picks Fortune Editor to Be Its Editorial Director
By ALEX KUCZYNSKI
John Huey, the editor of the Fortune group of magazines, was named editorial
director of Time Inc. today, replacing Walter Isaacson.

In Big Revamping, Interpublic Regroups Its Ad Agency Units
By STUART ELLIOTT
In what may well be the largest reorganization ever on Madison Avenue,
the Interpublic Group of Companies is being made over as it becomes the
world's biggest agency company.

Merrill Lynch to Limit Analyst Share Purchases
By REUTERS
Investment bank Merrill Lynch & Co Inc. said on Tuesday it will prohibit
its equity analysts from buying shares in companies they cover.

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Hi all,

I have also used ROBOWEB. Works very well through POST/LX thus making it =
a breeze to set up and use.

Thanks Tony=20

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have also used ROBOWEB. Works very =
well through=20
POST/LX thus making it a breeze to set up and use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> I have also used ROBOWEB. Works very well through POST/LX thus making
> it a breeze to set up and use.

That is why I think to share a proper working setup is a good start and
go from there in order to adjust to the personal requirements. It looks
more hassle as it really is.

I would like to encourage every post/lx user at least to give it try.
The result pays for it.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:22:58 -0400
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My sincerest apologies for seeming to make light of the matter.

It was, I fear, an ill-conceived posting based on the unintended pun caused
by the juxtaposition of "virus" and "Medical School".

Again, my apologies...
<<<John>>>

-----Original Message-----
From: KenLondon İmailto:KenLondon@BELD.NET¨
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Who is Beverly Carvalho?


>John Ruschmeyer wrote:
>Best laugh I've had yet this morning... having a virus diagnosed by the
Yale
>Medical School webmaster.

I don't consider viruses to be a laughng matter.  I find it akin
to coming into my place of business, dousing it with
gasoline and lighting a match.   Pure vandalism, pure
evil.   I also worked for a former employer who
had hundreds of machines infected many years ago.

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Le Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:42:38 +0200
Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU=2EDK> a =E9crit:

> You would send your mail login and password information unencrypted back
> and forth on the 'net?=20

> İsnip¨=20

> Under regular use, your login info only travels unencrypted from your
> house to your ISP's mail-server (so unless you're travelling or accessing
> your mail remotely, it never leaves your ISP's network segment)=2E=20

All of my regular e-mail accounts are on different machines all around
the net=2E I use no e-mail account from the ISPs I use to connect=2E

Then, for me, POP3 has the same level of security than Pandamail : none=2E

> apart from that, you run the risk it that Pandamail
> doesn't either already log all logins+passwords,=20

Taken from http://www=2Epandamail=2Enet/help=2Ehtm :

   "5=2E What is Panda's security policy?
        =20
   Panda has no intentions whatsoever, or any reason to collect the
   passwords of it's users, and are not=2E We try our best to keep Panda
   as safe and secure as possible=2E All email is kept on your POP3 server,
   and none is stored on Panda's servers=2E All security information is
   kept in cookies on your computer (NOT on the server), for additional
   safety=2E"

Pandamail has been created and is managed/coded by two brothers=2E
"Something" tells me that I can trust them, in the same way that
"something" tells me that I can't trust some other big companies (Yahoo,
Hotmail, MSN=2E=2E=2E), which store personnal informations, cans sell them,
and are sometime hacked, releasing thousands of user's passwords=2E=2E

> or has been hacked and a logger installed=2E=20

Your regular ISP is perhaps hacked and has a logger installed=2E=2E=2E



Jacques=2E

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re:

>- there are 1000 milliliters in 1 liter (by definition)

THAT's what I was trying to remember!

Thanks!!

but,

I don't know if I would have done as good a job w/ the rest of the figuring!

>- 1 liter of volume is expressed by a cube w/ 1 meter sides (or 10 cm per
>side)
>- so 1 liter is equivalent to 10cm x 10cm x 10cm = 1000 cm¬3
>- a cm¬3 is a cubic centimeter, so there are 1000 cc per 1000 milliliter
>- so 1 cc = 1 milliliter

Thanks again!

--tim

PS. Thanks also to Patrick West who pointed me to Master Converter at:

www.savard.com/masterconverter/

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John Ruschmeyer writes:
> My sincerest apologies for seeming to make light of the matter.
>
> It was, I fear, an ill-conceived posting based on the unintended pun caused
> by the juxtaposition of "virus" and "Medical School".

No apologies needed as far as I'm concerned.  I enjoyed your humor and
found nothing inappropriate about it.

Ted

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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
>
> Did anyone try ROBOWEB/LX?

Me :) I use it daily except when I'm on the road.

> Anyone else who will like to share his setup?

My favorites are :

;Company search, also general search by replacing serch-strings
search=3Dwww.google.com/search?q=3D%22Tyco+Inc.%22&sa=3DSearch&cat=3D&hl=3D=
en Google
search=3Dwww.google.com/search?hl=3Den&safe=3Doff&q=3D%22Molex+Inc%22+fina=
ncial+report&btnG=3DGoogle+Search Google
;"Tyco Inc" financial report summary Google
search=3Dwww.google.com/search?safe=3Doff&q=3D%22Tyco+Inc%22+financial+rep=
ort+summary&btnG=3DGoogle+Search&cat=3D Google
search=3Dwww.google.com/search?q=3DMolex&btnG=3DGoogle+Search Google
search=3Dwww.altavista.com/sites/search/res_text?sc=3Don&hl=3Don&amb=3Dtxt=
&q=3DMolex&kl=3Den&search=3DSearch Altavista
;Search by ticker symbol
search=3Dfinance.yahoo.com/q?s=3Dmolx&d=3Dd&=3Dt ticker
;Search in Encyclopaedia
search=3Dwww.xipolis.net/suche/suche_profi_form.php?verfeinern=3D1&such_mo=
dus=3Dprofi&suchmacro_name=3D&s1=3DProzess&co1=3DAND&s2=3D&co2=3DAND&s3=3D=
&co3=3DAND&s4=3D&co4=3DAND&s5=3D&dr=3DXIPO&wo=3D0&image.x=3D76&image.y=3D1=
2&message=3Dverfeinern Lexikon
search=3Dwww.xipolis.net/suche/suche_treffer.php?such_modus=3Deinfach&wo=3D=
1&s1=3DProzess&startsearch.x=3D41&startsearch.y=3D11 Brockhaus
search=3Dwww.britannica.com/search?query=3Dmanager&ct=3Deb Britanica
search=3Dwww.britannica.com/dictionary?book=3DDictionary&va=3Dmanager =
Webster
search=3Dwww.britannica.com/thesaurus?book=3DThesaurus&va=3Dmanager =
Thessaurus
;daily visits
daily=3Dwww.auto.com/avantgo/index.htm autonews
daily=3Dpublic.wsj.com/news/avantgo/euromart.html WSJ-E
daily=3Dwww.ftdlatestnews.de/ ftd
daily=3Dwww.ftmarketwatch.com/avantgo/ ft1
daily=3Dwww.ftmarketwatch.com/news/pulse.asp ft2
daily=3Dwww.marketguide2.newsalert.com/bin/main alert
daily=3Dwww.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/sz/ressort1.php SZStreiflicht
daily=3Dwww.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/sz/ressort10.php SZWirt
daily=3Dwww.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/index.php SZWirtsch
daily=3Dwww.handelsblatt.com/hbiwwwangebot/fn/relhbi/sfn/buildhbi/SH/0/dep=
ot/0/index.html HB
daily=3Dwww.nzz.ch NZZ
daily=3Dwww.welt.de/go/newsticker/meldungen.htx?koop=3D0&ressort=3Dnw&such=
e=3D&ivw=3Dfalse welt
daily=3Ddailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/bs/summary.html yahoo1
daily=3Dpg1.yahoo.com/raw?dp=3Dnews&idx=3D/h/nm/bs/index yahoo2
daily=3Dwww.industryweek.com/avantgo/ IWavant
daily=3Dwww.faz.de/IN/INtemplates/faznet/default.asp?tpl=3Duptoday/homepag=
e.asp FAZ
;weekly visits
weekly=3Dwww.sueddeutsche.de/auto/index.php SZAuto
weekly=3Dselect.economist.com/partners/avantgo/current/business.html =
economist
weekly=3Dwww.industryweek.com/CurrentArticles/default.asp IWarticles
weekly=3Dwww.industryweek.com/Columns/default.asp IWcolumns
weekly=3Dwww.redherring.com redh
;survey of competition - press announcements
weekly=3Dfinance.yahoo.com/q?s=3Dmolx&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
weekly=3Dfinance.yahoo.com/q?s=3DTYC&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
weekly=3Dfinance.yahoo.com/q?s=3DTNB&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
weekly=3Dfinance.yahoo.com/q?s=3DAPH&d=3Dd&=3Dt stock
;weather
test=3Dwww.nzz.ch/wetter/meteosat.html wetter
test=3Dwww.univie.ac.at/ZAMG/sat.gif ZAMG


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>>> but I'm trying to figure out (among other things), if "cc's per second
>>> (flow) is equiv. to milliliters/second ....
>>
>>I don't have a program to recommend, but:

me either but this site might have a calculator to help with the math, i
believe this site was posted some time ago by one of the list members

http://www-sci.lib.uci.edu/HSG/RefCalculators.html

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>>Tnx for your help. I knew, that POST/LX is a veryx good and usefull
>>app, but I am surprised, that it matches _every_ wish.
>>
>>The _additional_ sig-file is even better then my idea of selectable
>>siignature.

dont ya hate when they do that!

not that surprising coming from that group of folks though

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and now an example for our friends in France. I will post only the
first 100 lines. This should give you just an idea.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Entreprises

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L'iconomie amiricaine se trouve toujours sous la menace d'une
ricession
LE MONDE | 28.07.01 | 14h18
MIS A JOUR LE 28.07.01 | 15h12Imprimer | Envoyer par mail
 PUBLICITE
 CONJONCTURE Selon la premihre ivaluation, publiie vendredi 27
-juillet par l'administration du commerce, la croissance
amiricaine a progressi de seulement 0,7 -% en rythme annuel au
deuxihme trimestre. -CETTE -HAUSSE est la plus faible jamais
enregistrie par les Etats-Unis depuis huit ans. Elle contredit
la thhse de certains spicialistes qui ivoquaient un rebond
rapide de l'iconomie amiricaine. -LE -BILLET VERT a perdu un
peu de terrain aprhs l'annonce de ces chiffres, l'euro passant
brihvement au-dessus de 0,88 dollar. Mais ce recul a iti de
courte durie. Les chefs d'entreprise sont de plus en plus
nombreux ` plaider pour une baisse du dollar. -EN -FRANCE, le
-moral des patrons est en chute libre. Selon une enqujte
publiie vendredi par l'Insee, les perspectives ginirales de
production sont au plus bas. (Lire aussi notre iditorial page
8.)


NEW YORK de notre envoyi spicial

L'iconomie amiricaine a-t-elle touchi le fond ? A en croire
l'administration Bush et les iconomistes les plus influents de
Wall Street, le pire est passi, la ricession a iti ivitie et la
reprise est pour demain. Paul O'Neill, le secritaire amiricain
au Trisor, a diclari, vendredi 27 juillet, " anticiper une
reprise au quatrihme trimestre".

Les experts semblent surtout parier sur les vertus de la
mithode Coui pour soutenir le moral des minages, des
consommateurs et des investisseurs. Car la santi rielle de
l'iconomie amiricaine n'est pas brillante. La croissance du
produit intirieur brut (PIB) au deuxihme trimestre 2001 est
tombie ` son plus bas niveau depuis huit ans, ` 0,7 % en rythme
annuel selon les premihres ivaluations publiies vendredi par le
ministhre du commerce. Cette expansion, la plus faible aux
Etats-Unis depuis le premier trimestre de 1993, est une fois
encore infirieure aux privisions des analystes dont les
estimations s'itablissaient entre 0,9 % et 1,2 %.

MENACES MULTIPLES

Aprhs jtre passie soudainement au milieu de l'annie 2000, d'une
croissance explosive, de plus de 5 %, ` un rythme ralenti de 1
%, l'iconomie amiricaine fait du surplace. " Le scinario rose
que l'administration Bush et la Riserve fidirale amiricaine
(Fed) ont tenti de soutenir, celui d'un retournement au
deuxihme semestre, ne parant pas devoir se rialiser", risume
Joe Francomano, analyste d'Erste Bank. " Les chiffres du
deuxihme trimestre sont pluttt mauvais, ajoute Sadakichi
Robbins, de la banque Julius Baer. Les dipenses des minages,
trhs fortes jusqu'ici, se sont rivilies plus faibles que privu
et l'investissement des entreprises a digringoli."
L'investissement productif a plongi de 13,6 % d'avril ` juin et
les dipenses en informatique ont reculi de 14,5 %. Il s'agit
dans les deux cas de la plus mauvaise performance depuis
dix-neuf ans.

Comme l'a reconnu, les 18 et 24 juillet, le prisident de la
Fed, Alan Greenspan, devant les parlementaires amiricains,
l'iconomie des Etats-Unis demeure sous la menace d'une
ricession qu'elle a pour l'instant iviti de justesse. "Nous ne
sommes pas sortis d'affaire" et"la conjoncture continue ` se
ditiriorer", avait expliqui M. Greenspan. " Les risques
semblent pencher vers davantage de faiblesse de l'activiti",
avait-il ajouti. Et les menaces ne manquent pas. On peut citer
pjle-mjle : les incertitudes sur la consommation et le moral
des minages liies notamment ` la baisse de Wall Street et ` la
multiplication des annonces de licenciement, et la faiblesse de
la demande extirieure provenant ` la fois du ralentissement en
Europe et en Asie, des crises financihres en Argentine et en
Turquie et d'un dollar trop fort.

RiDUCTION DES BiNiFICES

Pour l'instant, l'arme monitaire n'a pas encore produit
d'effets. En dipit de six baisses consicutives du loyer de
l'argent au jour le jour, rameni de 6,5 % ` 3,75 % depuis
janvier - un rythme sans pricident depuis vingt ans -, le
chtmage, mjme s'il est bas, s'accront, les carnets de commande
des entreprises baissent, les investissements s'effondrent, les
binifices se riduisent et les dipenses des minages augmentent
de moins en moins vite. La consommation, qui reprisente les
deux tiers du PIB amiricain, a vu son rythme de progression
annuel se riduire au deuxihme trimestre ` 2,1 %, le plus faible
depuis quatre ans. En juin, les commandes de biens durables
(automobile...) ont baissi de 2 %.

Les doutes grandissants sur la capaciti de l'iconomie `
rebondir, commencent ` peser sur le dollar qui n'avait pourtant
cessi de s'appricier depuis deux ans. Vendredi, peu aprhs
l'annonce des chiffres de la croissance au deuxihme trimestre,
la devise amiricaine a touchi son plus bas niveau depuis deux
mois contre la monnaie europienne ` 0,88 dollar pour 1 euro.
Une nouvelle pluttt bonne pour la compititiviti des entreprises
amiricaines dont les exportations ont baissi au printemps (- 10
%)... pour le troisihme trimestre consicutif. Mais il faudrait
une baisse du dollar d'une tout autre ampleur pour soutenir les
exportations. Un affaiblissement du billet vert que riclame
maintenant ouvertement l'industrie amiricaine et auquel George
W. Bush ne serait sans doute pas hostile ` en croire quelques
diclarations ambiguks faites ` la veille de la riunion du G 8 `
Gjnes. Mais de l'avis giniral, le salut de l'iconomie
amiricaine ne peut venir, comme toujours, que de la
consommation intirieure.

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Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:56:09 +0100 0
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:12:48 +0200, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> Did anyone try ROBOWEB/LX?
>
> If somebody is interested I would like to share a working setup for:
>

 Hi Helmuth,
I have downloaded and a quick look at all the doc-files made me decide
to try it "later" ;-)

Too many options to deal with and too little time.
I would love to take look at a working setup ;-)

BTW
I also use ROBONEWS. Will ROBOWEB cause any problems with that setup?

Regards
Lasse

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Hi Helmuth, Tony, and others,

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:12:48 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Did anyone try ROBOWEB/LX?

Yes.
I installed it a few days ago using the RWOUTBOX guide. Was really not
that difficult as it seemed to be. Actually, it was very easy using
this guide.
I still have the original setup, no additional sites for visit, still
trying around with "Der Spiegel" and the other sites.

I know what Roboweb/LX can do, and I wasn't surprised that it really
does it without an problem.
Was was surprising is the neat "ASCII-graphical" user interface, which
I find very beautiful! I have expected Robot/LX messages running down
the screen, but instead I got a few windows, showing different kins of
information, very comfortabe! :-)

> If somebody is interested I would like to share a working setup for:
>
>    - Sueddeutsche Zeitung

Would be very interesting for me, too.
I am still searching for sites of Berlin newspapers or news TV
broadcasters which are suitable for Roboweb/LX.
If I have found something, I'll gladly share it with others.

> I would like to thank Tony Hutchins for providing this outstanding
> tool. I use it daily.

I thank you, too and I recommend everyone to try Roboweb/LX!

BTW: What is the exact difference between an x-box and a folder in
Post/LX? I opened the help and did a search for "x-box", but there
isn't written anything about it.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

Since I have installed Roboweb/LX using the guide "RWOUTBOX.DOC", my
SMS folder doesn't work anymore!
Everytime I move the cursor onto the SMS box, Post/LX seems to lock up.
The menu key is still usable and I can quit, but I get a weird error
message "Cannot create Null: %.2x%.2x%.2x%.2x%.2x\ (followed by a few
special characters, such as a double exclamation mark, an upside-down
quotation mark, and so on)."

I don't know if it has something to do with the Roboweb/LX
installation, but it just appeared after the installation.
I haven't changed anything of the SMS setup.

Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas?

Thanks
 a lot
daniel


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On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 10:09:16 +0200, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

>  Hi Helmuth,
> I have downloaded and a quick look at all the doc-files
> made me decide to try it "later" ;-)

Lasse, oh I should add a warning - "Don't look at all the
docs"<G>.

> Too many options to deal with and too little time.  I would
> love to take look at a working setup ;-)

From memory I think RWOUTBOX.DOC describes a quick setup,
that immediately makes available about 20 sites, in
AVANTGO.O. Every "dig" in that file has been tested. It
is a working setup.  Theoretically it is possible to set up
this just by reading/following RWOUTBOX.DOC. No ROBOT.CFG is
involved at all. Much easier than ROBONEWS <G>. Basically
all you need to do is create a new POST/LX box, add about
5-6 lines to POST.CFG, and press F5.

> BTW I also use ROBONEWS. Will ROBOWEB cause any problems
> with that setup?

None at all. ROBOWEB boxes are separate from ROBONEWS boxes.
(ROBONEWS boxes are determined by ROBOT.CFG and the ROBOWEB
boxes are listed in the İWEBXBOXES¨ section in POST.CFG - or in
ROBOT.CFG if you use that method)

The way to run them both during an on-line session is to have

ExtProg=online.bat

(in POST.CFG)

where online.bat is along these lines:

ROBOT.EXE NNTP.SCR
ROBOT.EXE -p "RWEB1.SCR po"

(where the second line assumes you use the RWOUTBOX method
of setup).

But Lasse, you are right - it looks complex - because it
does have many controls. For simple sites, most controls
are not used. For more complex sites the patterns (if any)
in URLs/labels that you want may require more instructions
for ROBOWEB.

The more selective you are, the more controls are needed.

If, on the other hand, you want a *whole* site, which you have
no knowledge about, it is easy - 2 controls only:

say Depth=20 & Maxcount=(as high as you like)

- ROBOWEB will start digging, keeping track of duplicates etc,
and stop when there is nothing new left. This way for example
I made him dig the whole www.dasoft.com site (I think that
used Depth of 8 and had maybe 70 pages, and a few files -
some .SCR and .PCX). I also tested on Stefan's site and it
got everything in a flash. Wonderful site that!

Cheers, Tony
PS - obviously the larger the dig you specifiy, the longer the
online session will be, and the higher any ISP/phone company
charges will be.

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Daniel,

> I don't know if it has something to do with the Roboweb/LX
> installation, but it just appeared after the installation.
> I haven't changed anything of the SMS setup.
>
> Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas?

I am running ROBOWEB and SMS and didn't suffer from any problems so
far. I use it on daily.

No ideas at present.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Daniel

> BTW: What is the exact difference between an x-box and a folder in
> Post/LX? I opened the help and did a search for "x-box", but there
> isn't written anything about it.

A X-BOX is controlled by an external program e.g. ROBOT.EXE.

Kind regards

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Daniel,

> > If somebody is interested I would like to share a working setup for:
> >
> >    - Sueddeutsche Zeitung
>
> Would be very interesting for me, too.

It is on the way to you.

Kind regards

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Lasse,

> I would love to take look at a working setup ;-)

It is on the way to you.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:42:48 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Helmuth, Tony, and others,

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your comments about the ROBOWEB interface. I'm sorry
about that SMS problem though! Hopefully some bad coincidence.
But it could also be something specific to ROBOWEB that I am
not aware of. So, I hope you solve it soon :)

> BTW: What is the exact difference between an x-box and a
> folder in Post/LX? I opened the help and did a search for
> "x-box", but there isn't written anything about it.

POST/LX treats X-boxes different to other box types, but there
is only one distinguishing difference - if *any* X-box is
marked for visit on an on-line run, then after POST.EXE is
finished its on-line work, he checks to see if there is
anything specified by "ExtProg=" in POST.CFG, and if so he runs
that program.

For example if you have your SMS box marked for visit, then the
"ExtProg" program will be launched. Maybe your ROBOWEB X-box is
not marked for visit - it is then up to ROBOWEB to decide this,
and whether anything is to be done.

The ExtProg will not be launched only if all X-boxes are not
marked for visit.

The latest SETUP.EXE at www.dasoft.com does provide some
support for X-boxes - they are treated as folders
(F-type). Apart from that, it is up to programs external to
POST.EXE to use the X-box.

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Tony,

I am going to experiment with your famous Roboweb program. It sees to
be great stuff ad well doumented. The best way for me seems to start
with the exapmle using PoOST/LX.

Now I am facing a small problem:

I the İSYSTEM¨ section of post.cfg ExtProg= has to be defined. I have
already 2 entries there:

ExtProg=ROBOT.EXE NNTP            (for ROBONEWS)
ExtProg=c:\wwwlx\util\dummy.com   (for Stefan Peichl's PDU)

Now for ROBOWEB I have add a 3rd line. I have no idea what this is
doing (I have nothing found in Posthelp). I don't see how POST/LX knows
which ExtProg to use for which application. I am not even sure if my
current configuration works with Stefan Peichl's PDU/SMS.

Can I just add this 3rd line as

ExtProg=ROBOT.EXE -p "RWEB1 po",

or is this confusing for POST/LX?

Thanks for your help!

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I'll be vacationing in France and Switzerland in the second half
of August. Apart from getting the CIS access numbers from GO PHONES,
is there anything else I need to do? e.g. would I need any modifications
to my www.cfg (extracts below) Anything else I need to consider?
TIA for all help,
Suresh

İSetup¨
CIS=3DCompuServe local
CIS800=3DCompuServe 800 number
İScript¨
CIS_Script=3DCompuserve dial up
İCIS¨
Port=3D2
Baud=3D38400
Modem=3D1
PPP=3D1
Login=3DXXXXXXx
;ATTENTION: password is encoded!
Password=3DXXXXXXX
ModemInit=3DATZ
Dial=3D9726645
DNS_IP=3D149.174.211.5
DNS2_IP=3D149.174.213.5
Script=3DCIS_Script
My_IP=3D0.0.0.0
OmniGo=3D0
İCIS_Script¨
e=3DInitializing modem
m=3D
s=3D\r
w=3D5 OK
e=3DDialing
d=3D
s=3D\r
w=3D75 CONNECT
@=3D1
e=3DConnecting to CIS
s=3D\003
w=3D45 D:
e=3DSending login
l=3D
s=3D+/GO:pppconnect\r
w=3D10 word:
e=3DSending password
p=3D
s=3D\r
e=3DWaiting for CIS to respond
w=3D75 PPP

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John Ruschmeyer wrote:
> My sincerest apologies for seeming to make light of the
matter.
> It was, I fear, an ill-conceived posting based on the
unintended
> pun caused by the juxtaposition of "virus" and "Medical
School".

Since I was the one who gave you the laugh I think I'm the main
one who is qualified to either be offended or not.  I enjoyed
your post and thought it was funny. :)

I guess there are times in life where a sense of humor is
inappropiate but I can't think of any that inolve computers.

About 10 years ago my sister was doing contract work as a
programmer on an AS400 system.  She had been constantly warning
them for over a year that they needed to make regular backups
but they ignored her.

When she called to tell me she had just lost the job because
when their disk crashed all her source code had been lost (over
a year's work) there were tears but she could still laugh about
it.

When you think about it impersonally, it really is funny.  So is
Beverly Carvalho.  :)

Barry

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Hi Tony and others,

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:38:58 +1200, Tony Hutchins <th@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> Unfortunately I have no idea why a specific folder would
> suddenly stop working.
>
> But, when ROBOWEB is installed, it does increase the size of
> POST.CFG slightly. Maybe you already have a large POST,CFG -
> once it gets to a certain size (probably at least 8K) it could
> cause some problems - for example ROBOWEB could just abort an
> online run. But, I've never seen it cause the breakdown you
> describe.

Thanks Tony.
Everything's working again!
It was not the size of the cfg (although it was slightly larger than
8K). I tried to play with every parameter in the İSMS¨ section and
finally found out that the Sets= setting was faulty. It coutained
nothing, now I inserted "a" (Sets=a) and now it works again.
I have two sets set up: a and c. a are all folders and boxes which are
stored in a directory on the flash card, c are all stored on the
internal hard drive.
I thought a mailbox (and thus the SMS box) should be shown everytime,
independant on which set is activated, if you leave the Sets= parameter
without a value, but that seems to be wrong: The Sets= parameter seems
to have all sets set in order to be visible everytime.
If one leaves Sets= without a value, it seems to lead to such strange
side effects.

> Somehow this rings a bell here! A long while ago - yes  think I
> lost my POST.CFG - because I had no space left on the drive.
> Something like that.

It told me something about "cannot create index2 (disk space)" when
exiting from Post/LX when I tried to mark and enter the SMS box.
Sometimes it showed me a strange looking outbox when hitting enter on
the SMS box with message 13554/16425 marked :-) (I usually have
something like 10 messages in the SMS outbox!).

> I have an open mind. It could be to do with the installation.
> Thanks for reporting it! If I think of anything I will let you
> know.

Nothing to do with the installation! Fortunately!
But, I still don't know why this happened just now. I cannot remember
to have deleted the "Sets=" settings in the last days. I thought I had
it set this way all the time.

Thanks again
daniel

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> I have two different HP200LXs that BOTH have bad alarms.


In addition to what Daniel suggested, you might also erase apptbk.env in
C:\_dat and possilby even setup.env in the same subdirectory.

You will have to recreate some of your options and name info but clearly
a file is corrupt somewhere and you have copied/recreated it on both
units.

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:39:08 +0200, Josef Meyer wrote:

Hi Josef,


> I the İSYSTEM¨ section of post.cfg ExtProg= has to be
> defined. I have already 2 entries there:
>
> ExtProg=ROBOT.EXE NNTP            (for ROBONEWS)
> ExtProg=c:\wwwlx\util\dummy.com   (for Stefan Peichl's PDU)

Only the first ExtProg= in POST.CFG is used.
The dummy.com is only needed if PDU is the *only* external
application that you run.

So, have only one ExtProg= line. If you run more than one
external program, put them in a .bat file, and direct ExtProg=
to that.

> Now for ROBOWEB I have add a 3rd line. I have no idea
> what this is doing (I have nothing found in Posthelp).

I should have explained this in RWOUTBOX.DOC. Thanks for the
feedback. Will add it.

> I don't see how POST/LX knows which ExtProg to use for which
> application. I am not even sure if my current configuration
> works with Stefan Peichl's PDU/SMS.

POST/LX launches then all, if they are listed in a .bat file.
Then, it is up to each application to work out what it has to
do.

> Can I just add this 3rd line as
>
> ExtProg=ROBOT.EXE -p "RWEB1 po",
>
> or is this confusing for POST/LX?

It would still only launch the first ExtProg= it encounters
while looking from the top->bottom in POST.CFG. Any others are
ignored.

Something like this should do what you want.

ExtProg=XPROGS.BAT

and have 2 lines in XPROGS.BAT:

ROBOT.EXE NNTP
ROBOT.EXE -p "RWEB1 po",

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:59:12 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Everything's working again!

Daniel, Excellent news!

AFAIK there is no known issue with Sets=. I think a Sets=*
(or a Sets= or no Sets=) should always show a box.

> > Somehow this rings a bell here! A long while ago - yes
> > think I lost my POST.CFG - because I had no space left
> > on the drive.  Something like that.
>
> It told me something about "cannot create index2 (disk
> space)" when exiting from Post/LX

Maybe it thought the relevant .i file was on a drive that was
not available, but assuming it was, and there was free space,
we indeed have a mystery. If you can reproduce it please let me
know!

Thanks for reporting the successful recovery!

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All,

 I have been unsuccessful at setting up postlx to retrieve an email from =
a Hotmail account.  Using services.msn.com as the pop server.  Can't find =
anything else close to try and I also could not find anything on the =
hotmail site that relates to turning on pop for it.  Any suggestions?  =
Anyone out there using hotmail and postlx

TIA
Larry

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At 06:55 PM 29/07/01 +0000, you wrote:
>All,
>
> I have been unsuccessful at setting up postlx to retrieve an email from a
Hotmail account.  Using services.msn.com as the pop server.  Can't find
anything else close to try and I also could not find anything on the
hotmail site that relates to turning on pop for it.  Any suggestions?
Anyone out there using hotmail and postlx

Hi Larry

I dont think Hotmail can be pop based, but you might try locating another
provider from http://www.fepg.net/ that you can retrieve from hotmail then
to postlx. There are over 1400 free email providers listed here.. surely
one will have all the features needed to get hotmail and others then to the
lx.

Hope this helps. please post any service you find for all list members.

Regards

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Larry,
Haven't done this with hotmail but I am with my yahoo mail
account. Maybe you already know this since I see you have
yahoo email also.
Owen S.

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All,
 I have been unsuccessful at setting up postlx to retrieve
an email from a Hotmail account.  Using services.msn.com as
the pop server.  Can't find anything else close to try and I
also could not find anything on the hotmail site that
relates to turning on pop for it.  Any suggestions?  Anyone
out there using hotmail and postlx

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Hi everyone,
I'm thinking of getting my 200 upgraded and looking for
opinions from those who have had Thaddeus do this for them.

Thanks,
Owen S.

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>Owen Samuelson wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>I'm thinking of getting my 200 upgraded and looking for
>opinions from those who have had Thaddeus do this for them.

By all means go for it.  You won't regret it.  Get the largest size
available (64).   The only drawback....they don't have the 96
upgrade anymore.

The people at Thaddeus are great....you can't go wrong with
them.

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Owen Samuelson wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I'm thinking of getting my 200 upgraded and looking for
> opinions from those who have had Thaddeus do this for them.

I had this done about a year ago. I must say I am very
satisfied with the new 64mb/DS upgraded machine I purchased
from them. I have two other 200LX palmtops that I want to
upgrade one of these days when I have the funds <grin>. You
will be very happy you do this. It is well worth the money.

The extra memory provided me with plenty of space for every
program and all the data files. I even have a working copy
of Windows 3.0, complete with Excel and Word, running on my
palmtop. You can just imagine how much space that takes on
the C:\ drive.

My advice is, go for it. You won't be sorry. This upgrade
definately adds new life to the palmtop.

William E. Blankenship

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They do a good job and get it back to you rapidly.  I suggest, if you are
going to lay out for the 64MB/double-speed upgrade, that you spend the extra
to have them give it a once-over; they clean the keyboard, replace ANYTHING
that looks like it might be cracked or cracking, etc; new battery cover,
whatever.  It's like getting a new palmtop.  Mine gets a lot of use, so the
"tune-up"/repair (about $150) was well worth it.  I got the 8MB/double-speed
upgrade.  I will be sending them my backup unit for the same upgrade
shortly.


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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:05:51 -0000

Hi everyone,
I'm thinking of getting my 200 upgraded and looking for
opinions from those who have had Thaddeus do this for them.

Thanks,
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Helmuth wrote:

> I have never heard that hotmail supports POP.
> POST/LX, latest version requires a POP or an IMAP server.

Thanks for th quick response, Helmuth, Russell, & Owen.  I guess I am out =
of luck with Hotmail.  Actually it is my wife's email and since she fails =
to look at it daily (or weekly), I thought I would just check the headers =
each day when I go online and then tell her when she got new mail.  I'm =
using postlx just fine to get my compuserve, my yahoo, and my att mail.

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Outlook Express has an option to use Hotmail as your email
provider, so there must be a way.  Never tried it though.

Domingo

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Helmuth wrote:

> I have never heard that hotmail supports POP.
> POST/LX, latest version requires a POP or an IMAP server.

Thanks for th quick response, Helmuth, Russell, & Owen.  I guess
I am out of luck with Hotmail.  Actually it is my wife's email
and since she fails to look at it daily (or weekly), I thought I
would just check the headers each day when I go online and then
tell her when she got new mail.  I'm using postlx just fine to
get my compuserve, my yahoo, and my att mail.

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Domingo wrote:

> Outlook Express has an option to use Hotmail as your email
> provider, so there must be a way.  Never tried it though.

OE still uses the http protocol for Hotmail, not POP and SMTP.
When you set up the account, the mail server is listed as an
HTTP server, and the mail server address is a url,
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp

I think POP used to be a paid option, but no more.

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Lasse

> BTW
> I also use ROBONEWS. Will ROBOWEB cause any problems with that setup?

They go together if you put them together into a *.bat file which is
called as exeternal file from POST/LX such as online.bat :

----------
rem     the following activates POST/LX controlled digging - use space
rem     bar to deactivate boxes to be processed.

ROBOT.EXE "RWEB1 po"

rem     the following activates ROBOT/LX controlled digging - use ";" to
rem     deactivate URL's in robot.cfg

rem robot.exe "rweb1 rw"

rem     this calls ROBONEWS/LX

robot.exe NNTP
---------

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Josef,

> I the İSYSTEM¨ section of post.cfg ExtProg=3D has to be defined. I have
> already 2 entries there:
>
> ExtProg=3DROBOT.EXE NNTP            (for ROBONEWS)
> ExtProg=3Dc:\wwwlx\util\dummy.com   (for Stefan Peichl's PDU)

You should put these two lines into a batch file and add the RWEB
command in there as well so that :

İSYSTEM¨
...
ExtProg=3Dpath\online.bat
...

and

ONLINE.BAT

path\ROBOT.EXE NNTP            (for ROBONEWS)
c:\wwwlx\util\dummy.com   (for Stefan Peichl's PDU)
path\robot.exe -p "RWEB1 po"


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Suresh,

> I'll be vacationing in France and Switzerland in the second half
> of August. Apart from getting the CIS access numbers from GO PHONES,
> is there anything else I need to do? e.g. would I need any modifications
> to my www.cfg (extracts below) Anything else I need to consider?

1) Take care about adaptor plugs
2) In Hotelrooms you may need to add a PreDial=3D for an outside line as
well as a different modem init string. From home I typically run with
ModemInit=3DAT&F whereas from Hotels I use AT&FX3

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Owen,

> I'm thinking of getting my 200 upgraded and looking for
> opinions from those who have had Thaddeus do this for them.

That's a routine thing now and well worth the $$$. While you are at it
you might consider adding SSC as well.

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hi all,

yesterday my EXP Thinfax 14k4 Modem came back. It is working fine
now, and I have the impression that the repair was for free.
There was the amount of $5 mentioned on the customs form, but no bill
inside.

I am a very satisfied customer and wanted to let you know this, also
because I got the support of the list when I had the problem with the
modem. Special thanks to William E. Blankenship for his help.
I owe also another EXP Pcmcia Modem, it is the Thinfax 56K Pcmcia
Modem. It works great in the HP, is fast and has low power
consumption.
I use it frequently with www/lx and bgfax.

best regards,
Werner


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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

> In the message composition process POST/LX lets you F2-Add Attachments,
> Headers, SIGNATURES ....

I have a single signature file with both of my signature choices in it.  =
The
file is in my template, so it is always added into any message I compose. =
 I
just delete the part I don't want for the current message.  This is =
faster for
me than picking one of two signature files each time would be.

Here is the full signature file with my name twice.  I would normally =
delete
one of the name lines and leave in the PGP line either way.

 Steven A. Carder M.D. <steve@carderfamily.net>
 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
 PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu

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I think that Thaddeus does a great job and the customer service can't be beat. I can only offer a few things to consider:

1 - Thaddeus is a small shop and they can't always do a quick turnaround. Be sure that you can live a week or more without your
palmtop (even more so with international shipping)

2 - Consider the 32MB upgrade over the 64MB if you want to save some cash. I've found that there are only a few applications that I
really need to have in main memory when I swap out the flash card and use a modem or eth card. I also use it for emm and SC swap
space. The memory is faster but the difference is not huge. The extra $300 can buy a whole bunch more storage in the form of a
225MB+ sandisk card.

3 - Get a flash card that has plenty of room to back up your main memory. Maybe even a seperate one just for backups. A 48MB card is
big enough to do a compressed backup of 64MB mem and can be had cheep used (<$50)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List İmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of
> Owen Samuelson
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:06 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: 64MB + doulbe speed upgrade?
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> I'm thinking of getting my 200 upgraded and looking for
> opinions from those who have had Thaddeus do this for them.
>
> Thanks,
> Owen S.
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hi Larry,

Hotmail is not ready for POP.
You can use a program called POP3HOT to overcome this, but it would
not run on the Palmtop.
I recommend to use an alternative Email provider which allows POP3
access.

I use GMX and it works o.k. for me.

regards,
Werner


> All,
>
>  I have been unsuccessful at setting up postlx to retrieve an email
>  from a Hotmail account.  Using services.msn.com as the pop server.
>  Can't find anything else close to try and I also could not find
>  anything on the hotmail site that relates to turning on pop for it.
>  Any suggestions?  Anyone out there using hotmail and postlx
>
> TIA
> Larry
>



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Forgive the slight off-topic post - but a couple of years ago there
was a discussion of using the Short Messaging Service that many cell
phone providers have from the web.  Can someone familiar with SMS
please contact me off-list and give me some pointers?  I tried once
on my own to figure it out, and was not successful.

I saw some recent posts on SMS from within POST/LX.  I'm currious
also how/why people are combining SMS with their POST/LX program.

-Chris "SMS Novice" Lott

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On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, "Guenther Helmuth E." wrote:

 >Don,
 >
 >please check your mm.cfg.
 >
 >mm.cfg
 >; CFG file for MM/LX
 >
 >İSystem¨
 >...
 >Notes=c:\bin\list.com
 >; or
 >;Notes=c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\pim\pe.exe
 >
 >You might define a viewer, which suits your needs. I hope this will
 >help.

Guenther,

Thanks. That's just what I was looking for :) However, this feature isn't
available in PIM or Pro/LX. They employ a "Detail view" rather than a
"Note." The detail view only has a "press any key to continue."

The reason I'm asking is that I don't always set a right margin. If I go
back in my PIM files and reset the margin, things get messy. For example,
if I set the margin to 30 for the following to do:

+( 30-JUL-2001
+t Send email following up on Friday meeting.
+)

It would wrap to:

+( 30-JUL-2001 +t Send email
following up on Friday
meeting. +)

I'd like to have the same option "Notes" Guenther pointed out available in PIM.

Thanks again,
Don

 >> If I use the ENTER key to view a note in MindMap, the lines run off the
 >> screen. If I try to zoom or press any other keys to wrap the text it takes
 >> me back to the map.
 >>
 >> If I use F3 (Edit), which I have associated with PE, I can set the margin
 >> to wrap. When I quit the edit, PE prompts me to save the file. I do and
 >> then the ENTER key works fine. This seems to save a temp file though, not
 >> the original.
 >>
 >> I'm playing around with the demo version, so these problems might not exist
 >> in the full program. I've noticed this wrapping problem in PIM and, I
 >> think, Pro/LX. Has anyone found a way to deal with it? Is it something that
 >> could be addressed in the code? Since I can't zoom, could an arbitrary
 >> margin be set or a "wrap=?" line be added to the CFG? I'd rather not
 >> preformat all my files if I can help it.

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Hi all,

I've crashed my contact.pdb file ( main one ) by removing th e PC
card under power, before I was able to back-up this file. The
data are still there but while I was opening the file only the
note sign appeared on the screen, nothing else. By opening a
contact the system shows cannot open the data or something like
that . Does anyone have an idea how to recover the file ?

thanks in advance,
Michael Berrier,  Europe

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Thanks  Helmuth, Tony, and Hans Peter for your support.

I finally got ROBOWEB up and running ;-)
I must say I'm impressed.
This will keep me busy, the telecom companies happy and my family unhappy
for a long time ;-))
The reason I had problems was because I had eliminated the drive-letter
in the path-specification in the config files in order to be able to run =
from
any drive without having to change the configs.

For example
Dir=3D\_dat\wwwlx\folders
was ok for Post/LX  folders/boxes
but
Dir=3D\_dat\wwwlx\rweb
did not work for ROBOWEB boxes

In Post.cfg I also had
TmpDir=3D\TMP
which was ok for Post/LX but not for ROBOWEB

When I added a drive letter (C:) it worked ;-)

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Hi friends

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:35:22 -0700, Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU> wrote:

> OE still uses the http protocol for Hotmail, not POP and SMTP.
> When you set up the account, the mail server is listed as an
> HTTP server, and the mail server address is a url,
> http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp

ahaaa, so ROBOWEB/LX could probably be used to fetch mail from HOTMAIL!
:-)

GTX
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>Ed Padin wrote:
>1 - Thaddeus is a small shop and they
>can't always do a quick turnaround. Be
>sure that you can live a week or more
>without yourpalmtop (even more so with international shipping)

Their turnaround is amazingly fast.  They may be small but they work miracles.
They may be small but there turnaround is lightining fast.


P. S. Did I mention that they are fast?

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>Ed Padin wrote:
>2 - Consider the 32MB upgrade over
>the 64MB if you want to save some cash.

Do yourself a favor, get the highest amount
memory you can afford.   If theere is
anyway you can swing the moola for the
64 mb, go for it.  You will thank yourself
a million times over for going for the 64.

If it comes to a choice between memory
cards and a memory upgrade, go for the
memory upgrade.   (the 200lx only has
one slot).   Also there may be times
when you want to use a modem in the
card slot.

In the long run you will be much
happier with a 64 meg upgrade.

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Hi guys,

After being away from the list for a little while (lots of fluff/flame
flying at the time, too much work to do), I'm back with this emergency:
suddenly, my ADB file gives me a "File Not Found" error message. I can't
even load the file at all. There is a shitload of stuff in there and I can't
afford to lose the contents. I searched through the archives, and found a
few things that could help (load it in the PC version of Appt Book, for
instance), but I'd like to hear from the experts what the latest
developments on this are.

Thanks in advance for all your help!

A bientot,

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Date:         Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:51:04 +1200
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Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:33:00 +1200 (NZT)

Daniel - I thought the same till I remembered HTTPS:// - I do
use ROBOWEB/LX to download messages from web based chat boards.

- Tony

04h06m31s ago ...
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:26:29 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> ahaaa, so ROBOWEB/LX could probably be used to fetch mail
> from HOTMAIL!  :-)

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Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:39:48 +1200 (NZT)

Lasse, ROBOWEB does require fully explicit paths. I didn't
think of the problems that might cause. You make a very good
point! Congrats on getting it working.

- Tony

04h34m50s ago ...
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:04:58 +0200, Lasse Karlsson wrote:
...

> In Post.cfg I also had TmpDir=\TMP which was ok for Post/LX
> but not for ROBOWEB
>
> When I added a drive letter (C:) it worked ;-)

Hopefully ROBOWEB itself complained - it is supposed to check
the directories. I never tested if this worked properly.

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> I've crashed my contact.pdb file ( main one ) by removing th e PC
> card under power, before I was able to back-up this file. The
> data are still there but while I was opening the file only the
> note sign appeared on the screen, nothing else. By opening a
> contact the system shows cannot open the data or something like
> that . Does anyone have an idea how to recover the file ?

You can try using garlic.zip (super site??) but I have a feeling that
your file is really damaged.

Also try creating a new contact file.  Now try merging your old file
into the new one.  Menu, File, Merge.....

The other option will be tedious and manual.

Create a new empty contact file.  Then if you can, try to open your
original contact file in MEMO.  From Memo, you can attempt to find
readable data and using copy/cut/paste try to move data to a new contact
file.  Then cleanup!

Good luck

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Daniel,
>
> ahaaa, so ROBOWEB/LX could probably be used to fetch mail from HOTMAIL!
> :-)

So maybe all is not yet lost!  I downloaded roboweb/lx a couple of days =
ago but have not yet tried it.  First, I'm trying to figure out what it =
is usefull for :-) but they way everyone is carring on about it I'm sure =
I'll catch up soon.

Larry

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>
> Hotmail is not ready for POP. You can use a program called >POP3HOT to =
overcome this, but it would not run on the Palmtop.
> I recommend to use an alternative mail provider which allows >POP3 =
access.


Werner,
 Thanks, but I need to make Hotmail work if I am to check my wife's email =
and tell her when she has mail.  Oh well it was just an idea.

Larry


PS:  Tried to email directly to you but mail returned <does not accept =
yahoo mail from foreign server>  ??

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:32:35 +0200 Michael Berrier wrote:
>I've crashed my contact.pdb file ( main one ) by removing th e PC
>card under power, before I was able to back-up this file.

Another alternative would be to send the file to me, and I'll try to
recover it.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:36:16 -0700 Fryday wrote:
>suddenly, my ADB file gives me a "File Not Found" error message. I can't
>even load the file at all.

If you want, I can try to recover it for you.

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hi Larry.

I do check the email of my wife as well, but I use another trick.
If she gets an Email (which is not often) I am notified by GMX about
the arrival of the email with a SMS (pager service), but it could as
well be a Email with this notification to my own account. I do not
have to download her mail and read it to know if there is something
she should look at.
Maybe this would be even better. But I dought if hotmail offers
paging service.

If you answer directly, you should have no problems now. I just
changed the spam filter to let you through.

Werner


> >
> > Hotmail is not ready for POP. You can use a program called >POP3HOT
> > to overcome this, but it would not run on the Palmtop. I recommend
> > to use an alternative mail provider which allows >POP3 access.
>
>
> Werner,
>  Thanks, but I need to make Hotmail work if I am to check my wife's
>  email and tell her when she has mail.  Oh well it was just an idea.
>
> Larry
>
>
> PS:  Tried to email directly to you but mail returned <does not accept
> yahoo mail from foreign server>  ??
>



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Hi

Now I changed the electronics, from my LX with cracked screen
to my old one, instead I got a new failure.

When I press in the white frame with the keys, some keys stop
working.

When I press it out again, they begin to work.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

If I bent up the key in question, and use a screwdriver to
close the circuit, then it works.

I soon get gray hair of this LXproblems.



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Date:         Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:26:05 +0000
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Lasse Karlsson wrote:

> The reason I had problems was because I had eliminated the drive-letter
> in the path-specification in the config files in order to be able to =
run from
> any drive without having to change the configs.

I do exactly the same with all my cfg files. My AUTOEXEC.BAT
analyses the hardware configuration and sets the appropriate
absolute paths. This enables me, (after a backup from C: to A:)
to put my flash card into any palmtop and have the identical
system running.

> Dir=3D\_dat\wwwlx\rweb
> did not work for ROBOWEB boxes

Hopefully there is a possible improvement in ROBOWEB
to make this work.

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Chris Lott wrote:

> I saw some recent posts on SMS from within POST/LX.  I'm currious
> also how/why people are combining SMS with their POST/LX program.

SMS are just small emails (not more than 160 chars) which do
not use the internet to travel from sender to receiver, but
use the GSM wireless net. Computers are endpoints for the
internet, mobile phones are endpoints for GSM.

Instead of POP and SMTP servers (for email), the SMS use SMSCs
(Short Message Service Centers). The addressing is also
different: For SMS your SMS address is the phone number of
your mobile phone.

But very similar to email, your SMS are stored in the SMSC if
you are the receiver of an SMS but you are offline (mobile phone
is turned off). Other than with email, you don't have to ask
for new email once you are online. The waiting SMS are sent to
your mobile phone as soon as you switch your phone on.

The palmtop-mobile phone connectiong is only for ease of typing
and handling SMS. It does not mean at all, that there is a
transition from GSM to the Internet concerning SMS. But it is
handy to use the same interface for email and SMS, because
both are very similar. POST/LX is prepared for this use.

It is a totally different story, if you use your mobile phone
as a modem to the internet. Then you have a transition from GSM
to the internet, but this has nothing to do with SMS.

Stefan

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Thanks to everyone for your upgrade opinions.
My palmtop is on the way to Thaddeus for 64MB soup up.

Let's see, since 1995 I've bought this thing, bought a 10M
ACE flashcard,
bought a 48M compact flashcard+adapter, bought a used 14.4
modem card,
had a cracked screen replaced, bought the do-it-yourself 4M
upgrade card.
And now, this. Please don't create a backlight or aluminum
case upgrade so
I can quit spending money on this thing! :) (just kidding)
I've never had such enjoyment from an electronic device
before or since!

Look at all the money HP lost just from me, for not carrying
on this line with
their own upgrades.

Owen S.

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I wrote myself:


<When I press in the white frame with the keys, some keys stop
<working.

<When I press it out again, they begin to work.

I have come one step further to solve this problem.

Now my LX work with the big white frame of keys, but when I
press in the little blue frame with numbers, then the LX soon
flips out. It launches whole series of keycommands, just as in
macro. The only explanation must be that the blue frame blocks
the circuit which build up potentials, which in turn trigger
these keycommands when discarging.

Anyway, my LX seems to work fine now exept for the blue frame,
I use it now without it and press manually so to speak direct
on the black spots.




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I have been trying to use PAL with TurboC version 2.01, but without luck. I
have not been able to get the linker to use the PAL library. When I run PM
to install the library, I immediately get a "File not found error". I
believe that I have all of the paths set up properly, however.

I then moved files from the PAL directories into the TurboC directory and
modified the paths in the SRCLIST file and the first parts of the PM process
appear to work, but the link fails when it tries to link files based on
fragments of the DOS Path statement that somehow have been incorporated into
the list of OBJ files.

So, first, does PAL work with TurboC 2? If it does, any suggestions on what
I should do to get my program to link to the libraries? (I'm trying to use
the HFN routines to make a simple "Horizontal Reader" program.)

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Hi gang,

After any reboot of my 32M 2X 200LX I run Curtis Cameron's dbcheck.
Yesterday I got error messages for four of my seven databases about
non-contiguous blocks.  I set about trying to clean up the databases.

I ran dbcheck with the /d switch and found no errors.  I then ran
it without the /d switch and again found no errors.  I started up
the System Manager again and had no further problems.

Today I had another instance of the same thing: four databases reported
as having noncontiguous blocks, followed by no errors reported.

For what it's worth, chkdsk thinks everything is fine.

Has anyone seen this sort of behavior before, and do I have anything
to worry about?

Ted

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Hi Larry,

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:34:31 +0000, Larry Castor <castorlw@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> So maybe all is not yet lost!  I downloaded roboweb/lx a couple of days ago but have not yet tried it.  First, I'm trying to figure out what it
> is usefull for :-) but they way everyone is carring on about it I'm sure I'll catch up soon.

As Tony just pointed out, Roboweb/LX is not able to fetch data vai a HTTPS
connection. :-(

GTX
daniel


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Hi if anyone has a 5-10 flash card they would like to sell, let me know
as at the moment i only have a 512k  Sram card for my HP100lx. Tnx in
advance. Scott

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Date:         Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:21:11 -0400
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Hotmail also uses .ASP pages. Can it fetch those?

>
> Hi Larry,
>
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:34:31 +0000, Larry Castor <castorlw@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > So maybe all is not yet lost!  I downloaded roboweb/lx a couple of days ago but have not yet tried it.  First, I'm
> trying to figure out what it
> > is usefull for :-) but they way everyone is carring on about it I'm sure I'll catch up soon.
>
> As Tony just pointed out, Roboweb/LX is not able to fetch data vai a HTTPS
> connection. :-(
>

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I don't think that this kind of language is necessary on the
list. I find it vulgar and offensive.  Please refrain from using
such language here.  Thank you.

Good luck with your ADB problem. I have no suggestions; if the
file is gone it's gone. You may be able to recover it with
Norton Utilities or something, but there's nothing better than a
good backup.

Regards,
Richard

From:  Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>

> ... is a shitload of stuff...

> A bientot,

> Philippe

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Date:         Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:38:20 +1200
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Wed,  1 Aug 2001 08:22:50 +1200 (NZT)

Stefan,

The last 5 lines of RWEBDIR.SCR are:

if (found :) ok
= error $a2=$a1 not explicit! Needs a :
x
:ok
x

If a ";" is inserted before the "= error" like so

; = error $a2=$a1 not explicit! Needs a :

then the script will not check for the drive.

Hopefully everything would still work. The only thing I am
unsure of is launching of attachments from a POST/LX message -
my impression was that an explicit TmpDir= was needed for this,
otherwise the application may not find the file.

- Tony

06h56m45s ago ...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:26:05 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

> > Dir=\_dat\wwwlx\rweb did not work for ROBOWEB boxes
>
> Hopefully there is a possible improvement in ROBOWEB to
> make this work.

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Date:         Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:47:56 +0200
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Hi Lars,

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:37:56 -0400, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:

> When I press in the white frame with the keys, some keys stop
> working.

Please have a look at
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair

good luck
daniel

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Hi Lars,

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:34:24 -0400, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:

> Now my LX work with the big white frame of keys, but when I
> press in the little blue frame with numbers, then the LX soon
> flips out. It launches whole series of keycommands, just as in
> macro. The only explanation must be that the blue frame blocks
> the circuit which build up potentials, which in turn trigger
> these keycommands when discarging.

Huh, this doesn't sound good! :-(
I haven't heard from such a problem, but your explanation sounds as it
might really be the reason. Or, I say it another way: I cannot think of
any other reason. ;-)

If I were you, I would take the palmtop apart once more, clean
everything, specially the contacts between keyboard and mainboard and
the key contacts themselves, and reassemble it. Maybe this halps.

> Anyway, my LX seems to work fine now exept for the blue frame,
> I use it now without it and press manually so to speak direct
> on the black spots.

Not very convenient, is it?
Strange -- what do the plastic keys in another way than you if you
press the black dots manually?

There must be a solution!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:49:22 -0500
Reply-To:     Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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We sell new 10 Meg cards for $29.95 -- check the middle of the page:

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=memory.ht
m

Hal from Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Smith İmailto:ve6itv@TELUSPLANET.NET¨
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:59 PM
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Used 5-10meg Flash-card wanted


Hi if anyone has a 5-10 flash card they would like to sell, let me know
as at the moment i only have a 512k  Sram card for my HP100lx. Tnx in
advance. Scott

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Date:         Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:08:34 +1200
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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Wed,  1 Aug 2001 09:49:04 +1200 (NZT)

Stefan - yup I think it works OK, and also the TmpDir=\tmp
does work for launching attachments, with PNS...
I even tried OtherDir=\other. Yup it works great. Thanks for
this idea - at first I thought it was relative to the current
directory, but now I see it is relative to the drive or root.
I also see that TmpDir=.\tmp works ok! I already changed the
docs for the next release, and the RWEBDIR.SCR. In the meantime
I hope you don't mind manually editing RWEBDIR.SCR.

- Tony

01h10m44s ago ...
On Wed,  1 Aug 2001 08:38:20 +1200 (NZT), Tony Hutchins wrote:

> If a ";" is inserted before the "= error" like so
>
> ; = error $a2=$a1 not explicit! Needs a :
>
> then the script will not check for the drive.

> 06h56m45s ago ...  On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:26:05 +0000
> (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> > > Dir=\_dat\wwwlx\rweb did not work for ROBOWEB boxes
> >
> > Hopefully there is a possible improvement in ROBOWEB to
> > make this work.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:36:39 +1200
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Stefan, me again, sorry - there is one exception I think. For
HV to find a file outside the directory where HV.EXE is, the
file must have a fully explicit path. So, for viewing an HTML
attachment in POST/LX, with HV, the TmpDir in POST.CFG should
be c:\tmp rather than \tmp or .\tmp. I, unfortunately
generalised this to all directories<G>. Oh, yes and as
ROBOWEB/LX uses HV for reading offline, the HTML links also
need to be fully explicit - so I'd better still check HTMDir
and OtherDir .. or just leave it up to the user. It's freeware
after all :)

- Tony

15m12s ago ...
On Wed,  1 Aug 2001 11:08:34 +1200 (NZT), Tony Hutchins wrote:

> Stefan - yup I think it works OK, and also the TmpDir=\tmp
> does work for launching attachments, with PNS...

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Does somebody know where I could download the driver for a 200-LX DS. I am
out of town on a business trip, and my LX crashed very badly today and I
lost all my C drive content... of course I don't have the driver on my flash
card ! Thanks !

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Wed,  1 Aug 2001 14:22:36 +1200 (NZT)

Stefan, finaly I think I have the best solution. In RWEBDIR.SCR
I now have:

if (found :) ok
= it $a2
if (found Post) ok
= error $a2=$a1 has no drive: İref:APPENDIX 3 in full doc¨
x
:ok

This allows no ":" for POST/LX data directories.
That is always fine. I think this was the main point of your
post.

I still really have to trap a TmpDir that has no "drive:"
because otherwise HV (when run from a different directory to
TmpDir) will not find a file there. Also, for similar reasons
the drive needs to be in "HTMDir" and "OtherDir". I think Lasse
also used TmpDir=\TMP. Do you also use that? AFAIK this makes
it difficult to directly view a .HTM attachment in HV from
Post/LX.

In any case, the "= error" line can always be commented out, if
the user desires to do so. That will work fine for "Detag=1",
but not in general for the HTML modes.

12h56m31s ago ...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:26:05 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

> > Dir=\_dat\wwwlx\rweb did not work for ROBOWEB boxes
>
> Hopefully there is a possible improvement in ROBOWEB to
> make this work.

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Werner,
>
> I do check the email of my wife as well, but I use another >trick. If =
she gets an Email (which is not often) I am notified >by GMX about  the =
arrival of the email with a SMS (pager >service), but it could as . . .<

No, I don't think Hotmail has a sms, but it does have forwarding-so maybe =
I could just forward any of her mail to another account that I can =
access.  Thanks for the idea.

Larry

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I believe hotmail does - check 'options' 'mailhandling' 'alerts'.  you just
have to sign up for, and be further entwined into, yet another
microsoft-passport-is-tracking-my-ass-all-over-the-place service.  the
forwarding idea is much more sane and rational.

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 03:20:15 +0000

Werner,
 >
 > I do check the email of my wife as well, but I use another >trick. If she
gets an Email (which is not often) I am notified >by GMX about  the arrival
of the email with a SMS (pager >service), but it could as . . .<

No, I don't think Hotmail has a sms, but it does have forwarding-so maybe I
could just forward any of her mail to another account that I can access.
Thanks for the idea.

Larry

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