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> >    Thanks for the suggestion.  I tried "keybez.com dv" which changes the
> > 200LX keyboard but doesn't affect the newton keyboard pattern.

key200 works deeper than keybez, and very well may intercept the Newton
keyboard. Test it by running
        key200 D:/bin/key200.txt
and see if the changes work (eg MENU-e now prints "example"). There is
a fair bit of tutorial in the key200.txt - copy it to C: to edit it
etc. Also,
        key200
without arguments prints out a fairly complete help screen.

Rudi introduced me to key200, and I have to say it's *very* cool. EG:
If you are annoyed at hitting the More key accidently, you can disbale it.
You can redefine all the More, Calc, Appt etc keys to be numerals if you
want. You can make your own macros that work from anywhere. Very excellent.

If you have any questions (it is a bit obtuse) please feel free to
mail me. :) Though I'm merely a disciple here...

> one can really redefine scancodes in the lowest level of
> keyboard-event-service and that will cheat ALL "subsequent" codes on
> our palmtops.

PS I didn't realise that a dvoark (Sp?) keyboard remapper was included
in the hp200lx. What an incrediably thourough job they did! *marvel*
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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:02:16 +1100
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> This being the > case, much of what is being touted as "abandonware"
> is actually pirated commercial software...
...that is being wasted.

> It's wrong to download and/or distribute it.

Right and wrong are generally distant from intellectual property issues.
The author is usually well out of the financial picture by the time
these issues come up; it's all economics: is the resource well-used?

>      If you owned a home, moved out of it but never sold it, would
> other people have the right to take it over?
Well, in a sense, yes; by the common law doctrine of adverse possession,
they would actually gain legal title if they stayed long enough - and
*they* could evict *you* if you came back! It's happened; it's legal.

Of course, this period is long - 20 years; and it applies to real estate,
not personal property, let alone the intellectual property of copyright.
But the principle expressed by the courts is clear - if you don't use your
resources usefully, they will let others use them, rather than let them
go to wasted. And this is exactly what is in issue in the abandonware
debate - perhaps renaming it "adverseware" might be a little more
persuasive to the commercial lawyers?

There are countless examples of a course-of-trade that has become
enshrined in law. If abandonware (or adverseware) allocates resources
well, it has a good chance of becoming so elevated. However, the copyright
owners may eventually realise that DOS *is* worth supporting. They paid
for it, they are the owners; they deserve every chance to utilise it.
If DOS does make a comeback - and it *should* - this may come to pass.

But, just because it's legal doesn't make it "right";
just because it's not doesn't make it "wrong".

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What's the cheapest source of the components required to make the Newton
keyboard adapter?
Thanks,
Jay

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:22:01 +1100
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> what i would like to see if the windows ce dos emulator works well is
> if the windows ce machines and the hp machines in particular will run a
> pc card cdrom drive,
Er, is there any reason you can't do this with a HPLX?

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:23:05 -0600
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All,

Ive been experimenting with a Flow diagramming application for the
HP100/200lx using PAL graphics for a sysmgr look and feel, and Im curious
if there is a need for such an application.  If so I will continue
development, and release it.

The application uses a basic grid, scrollable via the cursor keys, and
allows you to select from a library of symbols and place them on the grid.
Currently you may attach some text to each frame, but this could be
enhanced to link to text files using an editor of your choice, etc.  The
app could be used for simple diagraming, mapping, and flowcharting etc.

Anyone interested, or have any ideas?

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:55:52 -0600
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I found a GPS receiver in a "clearance room" for $160 and I talked them down
to $30 (with a 5 day return!) as I know that it has been sitting there for
a couple of months and doesn't have any sort of manual with it.  It is a
Trimble Mobile GPS.  I am wondering if anyone has ever tried this thing in a
200lx and if so, did you get it to work?

So far I have not had much luck with GPSCGA.  It doesn't seem to think there
is anything there.

The 200 doesn't seem to like it, sort of.  I have to do a shift-cntl-on initally
but then the sytem is ok.  No major battery drain or anything.

I have tried it with and without "cic100" both with no joy.

Trimble's web page was not very useful.

The following is on the back of the card:
        Compatible with PCMCIA 2.01/JEIDA 4.1

and I think this is the death blow but I don't have my 200 manuals here at
home and I don't remember what version it uses...

Please tell me this will work!  $30 is an awfully good price!

Thanks.

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yes because the pc card cdrom drives dont work with the hp200. but
maybe they will work with the windows ce machines, i dont know but
maybe somebody does, if i could run a portable battery opperated cdrom
drive on my palmtop then i would stick with that method.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:05:00 -1000
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I use a 17 point font (fpab0017.vfn) which I think I got from Gilles Kohl
(100114.3146@compuserve.com), the author of VR.  It makes VR easy to read
--I've even caught up on reading the Classics, which I avoided in college.
If you would like a copy of the font, let me know and I'll send it.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_

At 12:00 AM 11/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Date:    Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:03:50 -0500
>From:    Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
>Subject: VR Fonts, was Re: Psion is Pretty
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>On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:10:54 +1100, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
>>Yes, VR is a great idea... I hate to say it, but I found VR worse to read
>>than normal text...
>
>Have you tried using different fonts?  I think I settled on something
>other than the default, and am very happy to use it for extended
>periods.
>
>--
>Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
>Team 200LX
>
>Also, the PAL Library comes with a program called "Pal Font Editor" PFE
>which you can use to create your own fonts for vertical reader. I made a
>font as large as I could with that program and use it to read stuff with VR.
>
>Best Wishes,
>Owen Samuelson
>Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
>HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html
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> I use a 17 point font (fpab0017.vfn) which I think I got from Gilles Kohl
> (100114.3146@compuserve.com), the author of VR.  It makes VR easy to read
> --I've even caught up on reading the Classics, which I avoided in college.
> If you would like a copy of the font, let me know and I'll send it.

Yes, that would be wonderful! Then I won't have to lug the library's
copy of "The Wealth of Nations" around with me any more. Thank you, Bob.
My email is:
        bren@cs.monash.edu.au

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:21:55 +1100
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> $> "I use LaTeX on my palmtop, BTW." said Andreas disarmingly.
> > What!? Hello! Quick, Quick, /Please/ tell me how to do it!!
> "Quick" is difficult <G>. It is NOT trivial to install LaTeX and TeX.
>
>
> Finally, I downloaded LaTeX 2.09 and compiled it using the TeX
> compiler.
Andreas, where did you get LaTeX? I couldn't find it at SimTel...

> Speed: reasonably fast. Actually, I was quite surprised. It is just a
> little slower than the Linux version on a 75Mhz/468 laptop.
I think this sometimes happens because everything is a RAMdisk on
the HPLX...

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On 1997-11-01 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:12:00 +1100
 HP>> I use a 17 point font (fpab0017.vfn) which I think I got from
 HP>>Gilles Kohl  (100114.3146@compuserve.com), the author of VR.  It
 HP>>makes VR easy to read  --I've even caught up on reading the
 HP>>Classics, which I avoided in college.  If you would like a copy of
 HP>the font, let me know and I'll send it.
Could you also send me a copy of that font? Would be nice.
My Email address is constant@indo.net.id





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> is prossibly an exception to this)  Some device drivers such as Stacker
> are able to use EMS memory.  Software Carousel (& Maxdos?) can be
> configured to use EMS.

I can confirm Murray that MaxDos can not only use ems but works best
with it (the fastest possible swap times are acheived when swapping =
to
ems).

> According to the win 3.0 manual it will use EMS though it doesn't =
say
> how, some windows apps will also use EMS (Excel?).

Also confirmed. Excel (2.1) will work faster with ems present on the
200lx and it allows you to load more worksheets or larger worksheets.
Winword (1.x) also makes similar use of ems. As a matter of fact both
these tend to use ems *before* the low ram - when the ems is exhausted
then they turn to the conventional stuff (check this using 'Help,
About' before and after loading your documents).

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> Sci-Fi movie buffs will remember the scene in "Robo-Cop", a futuristic
> movie about an experimental cyborg policeman, when they first bring =
him
> "on-line".
>
> His visor showed something like "....loading command.com".
>
> It DIDN'T show the Windows logo <g>.

I can't remember the visor scene but I'm sure you are right - who would
want a 1/2 ton of steel and modern elecoronics 'crashing' into parked
cars and storefronts everyday... :-)

I could almost picture it now... robocop is 'parked' in the officers'
mess in the LAPD (los angeles police dept) about 2am when a 911 comes
over the wire: by the time he boots to windows it may be too late to
apprehend the perpetrators who would have had time to reach canada =
by
now... <vbg> And just what do you suppose the commissioner would say
if in the middle of a possible homicide robocop hangs?

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:44:47 -0500
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At 22:05 10/31/97 -1000, you wrote:
>I use a 17 point font (fpab0017.vfn) which I think I got from Gilles Kohl
>(100114.3146@compuserve.com), the author of VR.  It makes VR easy to read
>--I've even caught up on reading the Classics, which I avoided in college.
>If you would like a copy of the font, let me know and I'll send it.
>
>Aloha - bob    \ooo_
>
Bob, I don't have this font and would like a copy. My e-mail is
owensam@hom.net

Thanks,

Best Wishes,
Owen Samuelson
Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:38:54 +0500
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I'll spare you all the arguments I have for supporting Free
Software... and just say, we seem to have talked quite a bit around
this topic, and the interlocutors seem fixed in their opinions.

Can we stop using bandwidth for this "discussion"?

-Peter

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All the discussion of "abandonware" brings up an interesting & related
topic.  Software licenses must be the only legal agreements where the
purchaser is denied the opportunity to read the terms before accepting
them.  Would anyone sign ANYTHING they weren't allowed to read first??=

That's what buying software often amounts to.

Most software licenses (after translating into English) say something
like "By unwrapping this package you have agreed to the following terms
(yadda, yadda, yadda in incomprehensible mumbo-jumbo) that if you had
read first you would have told us and our lawyers to take a collective
flying leap off the nearest tall building..."

I think that most of us will agree that creative people - writers,
artists, musicians, software authors etc. are entitled to compensation
for their work.  However, "intellectual property" laws have gotten out
of hand when the music industry can sue the Girl Scouts for singing
folk songs around the campfire. (Yes, it really happened!)  Brings to
mind the immortal words of Dickens' Mr Bumble - "The law is an ass".

Aargh!  Enough of this.  I'm getting a headache just THINKING about
this nonsense...

-PR
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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:28:49 -0800
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I'll leave it to others to address the pcmcia issue, but I don't think you'll be
happy with the performance of gps technology that's that old.  They've made
advances in receiver sensitivity, as well as multiple channel units, that leaves
the older units in the dust.  If you're really interested in gps spend $250-300
on a Garmin II+ (make sure it's the "+") or a Garmin 12XL.  They're both 12
channel units with similar performance.  The main difference in packaging.  I
have a 12XL that I use with LXGPS on the 200lx, as well as DeLorme and other map
programs on my notebook.  I'm very satisfied with the setup.

Lewis

Jaime Viehweg wrote:
>
> I found a GPS receiver in a "clearance room" for $160 and I talked them down
> to $30 (with a 5 day return!) as I know that it has been sitting there for
> a couple of months and doesn't have any sort of manual with it.  It is a
> Trimble Mobile GPS.  I am wondering if anyone has ever tried this thing in a
> 200lx and if so, did you get it to work?
>
> So far I have not had much luck with GPSCGA.  It doesn't seem to think there
> is anything there.
>
> The 200 doesn't seem to like it, sort of.  I have to do a shift-cntl-on initally
> but then the sytem is ok.  No major battery drain or anything.
>
> I have tried it with and without "cic100" both with no joy.
>
> Trimble's web page was not very useful.
>
> The following is on the back of the card:
>         Compatible with PCMCIA 2.01/JEIDA 4.1
>
> and I think this is the death blow but I don't have my 200 manuals here at
> home and I don't remember what version it uses...
>
> Please tell me this will work!  $30 is an awfully good price!
>
> Thanks.
>
> jaime
> --
> Jaime A. Viehweg     |  Lucent Technologies
> jviehweg@lucent.com  |  Globeview 2000 Lab Support
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > what i would like to see if the windows ce dos emulator works well is
> > if the windows ce machines and the hp machines in particular will run a
> > pc card cdrom drive,
> Er, is there any reason you can't do this with a HPLX?


Has anybody been able to get one of those PCMCIA CD-ROM drives to work with
the 200LX?  I tried a Panasonic double-speed drive a while back, but it never
worked.  It was the Card and Socket Services that did it-- it just didn't
have the ability to drive the SCSI card interface.  Has anybody ever done it
on a 200LX, or does anybody know if it can be done on a 320LX?  It would
certainly be nice.
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Its a self-extracting file, my friend. :-)

> I use version 6.2 and it's only 8k. I like features like everyone, but
> what does the extra 96k buy you?
>
> - Longden









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Toshiba will be announcing a new 120 MHz 1.8 lb Libretto mini notebook on Monday.  The following are some
interesting comments taken from an article located at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,15900,00.html:

  These tiny machines, usually well under three pounds, offer some of the advantages of a
  six-pound notebook: They run a full-fledged version of Windows 95--allowing users to run
  all their usual software--and come with relatively large hard drives. Typically, they also
  boast high-quality active-matrix LCD screens.

  This contrasts with Windows CE handheld computers, which run a stripped-down version of
  Windows, have no hard drive, and are really only meant as an ancillary device to a desktop
  PC. While they are cramped, mini-notebook keyboards, like the one on the Libretto, are also
  more useable than Windows CE computer keyboards.

  The mini-notebook market appears to have come out of left field and is principally driven
  by notebook makers' innovations--not Microsoft or Intel, which typically engineer new markets.

Maybe we are seeing the signs of the end of WinCE?

What if someone where to take one of these mini notebooks weighting less than 2 lbs, and place the operating
system and an applications suite into ROM?  Might be interesting!
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/1/97 2:54:48 PM EST
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Date:         Sun, 2 Nov 1997 00:43:30 +0400
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Subject:      200LX build-in diagnostics

If I run the the build-in testing utilities in my 200LX with {ESC} {ON} it
tells me that my Keyboard and my Plug-in RAM card are bad. However, I've
been using my 200 for more than one year and never experienced any problems
with my keyboard or with the plug-in 10MB Flashdisk RAM card from SunDisk.
Does anyone know why the testing utilities give these apparently wrong
results? Are there any known bugs in the build-in test utilities? Is there
anyone who has experienced similar strange results?

Thanks in advance for any comments,

Regards,

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Dr. Thomas W. Diefenbach wrote:

> If I run the the build-in testing utilities in my 200LX with {ESC} {ON} it
> tells me that my Keyboard and my Plug-in RAM card are bad. However, I've


Don't run the built-in test on a flash card.  It's designed only for SRAM
cards, and could be harmful to a flash card.  It will always say it's bad if
you run it on the flash card.

As for the keyboard test, it requires you to press all the keys on the keyboard
in succession, from ESC across to ON, then from TAB across to right arrow, all
the way down to +.  Then it will say "OK" if all the keys work and you pressed
them all.  If you abort it, it will tell you that the keyboard is bad.
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Date:         Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:26:06 +1300
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I like the thread about the various pros & cons of either and the concept
(for most of us) of owning both. I run Windows on my Pentium at home, both
3.11 and 95, it boots into 95, but I have a floppy to boot into 3.11, I
know about using F4 but I like to have the startup files for each seperate
and it works for me.

My point being, for ever since 95 has been out, I have been relentlessly
installing and un-installing it, liking it's ability to take advantage of
my 32meg and some of my favorite share/freeware is only for 95, but not
liking the masses of files it scatters all over the HD. I like 3.11's
simplicity and I like it's graphic interface much better (95 looks so
FLAT!)

This is an imperfect world and often the closest we can get to what we want
is to have several differing iterations of a single concept.

Obviously this ideal doesn't work in some arenas, relationships being one!
Hardware, well it would be lovely if one could have a Palm Pilot, an
HP200LX, a Messagepad 2000, a nose-bleeding notebook like the Tohiba
Libretto and a supersonic desktop, but in the real world, the masses (us!)
have to make do with just one careful choice, hence the compromise.

Software is where this nirvana seems to be within everybody's grasp. By
combining several packages, we can often get real close to exactly what we
want.

I personally run several dos-only packages, some 3.11 software and some
32bit 95 only programs. BTW, what happened to the promise of 32bit coding?
I thought it was gonna be the nirvana of programming, taking full use of
the abilities of the latest and greatest chips to bring us blinding
speed...

Just my 0.02 worth.

Take care.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 15:25:59 -0800
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Comments: To: "Crundall, Martin - TPMHC" <mcrundall@PACENT.COM>
Comments: cc: "Crundall, Martin - TPMHC" <mcrundall@PACENT.COM>
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The Newtone keyboard is great and we
wouldn't be able to use it without
K. Adachi.

Can we do something special for K. Adachi?

At 07:59 AM 10/30/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Wow -- got home last night and there was my new keyboard from SHIER.
>What a thrill.  Had to slow myself down to RTFM (readme file).  Played
>with it last night but put it to work this morning on the van pool.  A
>small piece of flat hardboard for my lap accomodated the keyboard and
>palmtop very nicely and fits well in my shoulder bag (a flipped-over
>clipboard would probably work great).  The combination makes extended
>memo-type input a dream.  The Fn/Alt/Menu key stuff takes a little
>getting used to but has been thought out carefully and it doesn't take
>much usage to build the 'muscle-memory' necessary to maneuver swiftly.
>
>My hats off to K. Adachi, the author of the driver, for a
>well-thought-out tool, and thanks to SHIER for making it easy for me to
>acquire and install this secure and permanent addition to my palmtop
>goodie bag.
>
>Martin
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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 15:38:07 -0800
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Sounds useful to me!
Let me know if it becomes
available.


At 12:23 AM 11/1/97 -0600, you wrote:
>All,
>
>Ive been experimenting with a Flow diagramming application for the
>HP100/200lx using PAL graphics for a sysmgr look and feel, and Im curious
>if there is a need for such an application.  If so I will continue
>development, and release it.
>
>The application uses a basic grid, scrollable via the cursor keys, and
>allows you to select from a library of symbols and place them on the grid.
>Currently you may attach some text to each frame, but this could be
>enhanced to link to text files using an editor of your choice, etc.  The
>app could be used for simple diagraming, mapping, and flowcharting etc.
>
>Anyone interested, or have any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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"If you owned a home, moved out of it but never sold it, would
"other people have the right to take it over?

I think so!  Under the law of eminent domain this could happen.
 Other people can move in and if they live there for a certain period
of time without you challenging them (and they pay taxes, etc.) they can claim
ownership.



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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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-> "If you owned a home, moved out of it but never sold it, would
-> "other people have the right to take it over?
->
-> I think so!  Under the law of eminent domain this could happen. Other
-> people can move in and if they live there for a certain period of
-> time without you challenging them (and they pay taxes, etc.) they can
-> claim ownership.

OK, obviously my home analogy was not a good one.  I'll be more
pragmatic now and less hypothetical.  I just went to visit 2
"abandonware" sites that were referenced here recently.  Each one is
down.  Obviously the people who were running the sites lack the
confidence that was expressed here by some, that they were doing the
right thing, otherwise they'd now be standing up for their convictions.

Yes, obviously the legal thing is not always synonymous to the "right"
thing, especially since the "right" thing can't always be defined
unanimously.
I myself have often wasted much effort trying to chase down a shareware
author so i could pay him for registration, calling dead BBSs listed as
registration sites, etc.  Nothing is more frustrating than finding a
great piece of shareware then not being able to get a registration key
so you can run it un-crippled.  I can sympathize with someone who might
then be tempted to crack it in such situations.  I think the bottom line
is this, law or no law:  if you can find the company who produced the
software and get them to take payment, you should do so.  However, if
you find the software, then find the software company (or author)
they refuse your money, then it's kind of hard to blame anyone for using
it, however that would still be illegal for the copyright owners have
every right to do what they want with the software, even kill it or let
it die. (an analogy is tempting here but I won't....)

Jim

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Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Ive been experimenting with a Flow diagramming application for the
> HP100/200lx using PAL graphics for a sysmgr look and feel, and Im curious
> if there is a need for such an application.  If so I will continue
> development, and release it.
>
> The application uses a basic grid, scrollable via the cursor keys, and
> allows you to select from a library of symbols and place them on the grid.
> Currently you may attach some text to each frame, but this could be
> enhanced to link to text files using an editor of your choice, etc.  The
> app could be used for simple diagraming, mapping, and flowcharting etc.
>
> Anyone interested, or have any ideas?
>

Well, Dan - I have a copy of Visio that I use at times. Visio did have a
run of popularity there, sounds like what you describe.

Darren

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Jaime Viehweg wrote:
>
> I found a GPS receiver in a "clearance room" for $160 and I talked them down
>
> The following is on the back of the card:
>         Compatible with PCMCIA 2.01/JEIDA 4.1
>
> and I think this is the death blow but I don't have my 200 manuals here

I also think that was the death blow for an IBM modem / ethernet card
which wouldn't work in my 200LX. The 2.01 part. The LX is 2.0. I wonder,
though, if a double slot would work around that.

I wonder for me, of course, not for you. <g> I'd help you recoup your
$30, if the double slot were a cure.

Darren.

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what sort of symbols could you use, circles and squares and lines, if
so it would be good for those of us who would like to doodle or take=
 notes
with the HP.

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:56:46 -0600
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There was a discussion regarding keybez and the Newton keyboard.  I've
had a problem using the keybez Hebrew language character set (keybez
he).  I find it usually causes my phone.pdb file to lose its sort
order.  Garlic and creating a new file and merging its contents do not
solve the problem.

Any suggestions.  Is it really keybez that's "corrupting" my database
files?

Les

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Date:         Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:55:46 -0800
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On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Its a self-extracting file, my friend. :-)
>
> > I use version 6.2 and it's only 8k. I like features like everyone, but
> > what does the extra 96k buy you?

So how big is the executable after you extract it?

- Longden

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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:45:33 EST you wrote:
> Text of message from mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM, 29 Oct 1997, 10:20 AM
> Ý...¨
> > Has been running for months without any real problems.  However, every
> > once and a while (<5% of time) the program is not executed as scheduled,
> > it runs when I turn-on my LX in the morning (5:30AM).  This happens even
> > when all apps have been closed previously.
> >
> > Does anyone have any insight into why this happens?

> I have noticed this, too.  No rhyme or reason.  I run another macro which
> closes all apps before the backup runs.  I have tried increasing the ram
> available to dos sessions.  nothing fixes it and it only occurs
> sporadically.

You may want to try using maxdos in the appt entry. It will allow
whatever you are running to have as much memory as it can spare by
swapping the System Manager out of memory.

Here 's an example of the descriptio in the record:

  |a:\bin\maxdos.com rbshp2.bat

Works excellent for the past .5 year.

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Date:         Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:18:25 -0300
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Organization: ECOLOGICA
Subject:      Re: Database / Phonebook Importing
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Hi, Dave


>I would like to know, be walked through the process for importing my
>phone book from Winfax pro, to the HP. Is it possible? You can save
>the Wfx phone book as DB111 or ascii.

I import the data from WinFax. I first  export as CSV and
import to the Phone Book with help of a share ware named GDBIO
that convert CSV data to PDB format.

You need to set de database in the same format than it is in the phone
book. For that reason You need an intermediary step to converted the
data to DBF and "adjust" to Phone book structure and than export to
CSV ant finally import to PDB format.
Ý¨s


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
mailto:ecesana@ax.apc.org
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Lisk.com is about 26k.


> So how big is the executable after you extract it?
>
> - Longden







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Jim Henry:
>I myself have often wasted much effort trying to chase down a shareware
>author so i could pay him for registration, calling dead BBSs listed as
>registration sites, etc.  Nothing is more frustrating than finding a
>great piece of shareware then not being able to get a registration key
>so you can run it un-crippled. I can sympathize with someone who might
>then be tempted to crack it in such situations.  I think the bottom line
>is this, law or no law:  if you can find the company who produced the
>software and get them to take payment, you should do so.  However, if
>you find the software, then find the software company (or author)
>they refuse your money, then it's kind of hard to blame anyone for using
>it,
I agree with the above:
This is why I have decided that any software I create for the HPLX will be
freeware. I've gotten so many good pieces of software from other people for
my palmtop that what I write is just my small contribution. Besides I'm
doing it just because I enjoy writing it and that's another excuse to use
the palmtop.



Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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     Hi!
     If you do run the test on your flash card you can make it work again
     but only with fdisk100 and then format the card. You loose ALL our
     data.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-davidsa (davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/1/97 1:52 PM


Dr. Thomas W. Diefenbach wrote:

> If I run the the build-in testing utilities in my 200LX with {ESC} {ON} it
> tells me that my Keyboard and my Plug-in RAM card are bad. However, I've


Don't run the built-in test on a flash card.  It's designed only for SRAM
cards, and could be harmful to a flash card.  It will always say it's bad if
you run it on the flash card.

As for the keyboard test, it requires you to press all the keys on the keyboard
in succession, from ESC across to ON, then from TAB across to right arrow, all
the way down to +.  Then it will say "OK" if all the keys work and you pressed
them all.  If you abort it, it will tell you that the keyboard is bad.
--
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Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Ive been experimenting with a Flow diagramming application for the
> HP100/200lx using PAL graphics for a sysmgr look and feel, and Im curious
> if there is a need for such an application.  If so I will continue
> development, and release it.
>
> The application uses a basic grid, scrollable via the cursor keys, and
> allows you to select from a library of symbols and place them on the grid.
> Currently you may attach some text to each frame, but this could be
> enhanced to link to text files using an editor of your choice, etc.  The
> app could be used for simple diagraming, mapping, and flowcharting etc.
>
> Anyone interested, or have any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
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I don't have any great ideas, but I'm definitely interested.

Jim

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              W5GXL <Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
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I could use something like that if it was quick.. =20
I need to make little drawings of how things are connected
or simple maps of how to drive to a location..



>>
>> Ive been experimenting with a Flow diagramming application for the
>> HP100/200lx using PAL graphics for a sysmgr look and feel, and Im =
curious
>> if there is a need for such an application.  If so I will continue
>> development, and release it.
>>
>> The application uses a basic grid, scrollable via the cursor keys, and
>> allows you to select from a library of symbols and place them on the =
grid.
>> Currently you may attach some text to each frame, but this could be
>> enhanced to link to text files using an editor of your choice, etc.  =
The
>> app could be used for simple diagraming, mapping, and flowcharting =
etc.
>>
>> Anyone interested, or have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>> driden@stlnet.com

___
      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Leslie Cohn wrote:

> I've had a problem using the keybez Hebrew language character set (keybez
> he).  I find it usually causes my phone.pdb file to lose its sort
> order.

I also have found this problem. There is no work around that I know of as
keybez changes the sorting order of the alphabet. My solution is to write
the NAMES in English and only addresses and other information in Hebrew. I
have no problem doing this.


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> All,
>
> Ive been experimenting with a Flow diagramming application for the
> HP100/200lx using PAL graphics for a sysmgr look and feel, and Im curious
> if there is a need for such an application.  If so I will continue
> development, and release it.
>

Yes, please do so. I've been playing around with a similar idea to keep
track of the current network layout at our site. Diagramming with included
hyperlinks would be very handy indeed.

-fix

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>Now, Windows95 has been very popular; but it retains back-compatibility.
>WinCE and WinNT don't. Until they do, I don't know if they'll really

No, WinNT is very compatible with DOS!  I used DOS every day on
WinNT 4.0. Especially SHE my DOS hypertext text shareware editor.  I also
paste text back and forth between my editor and windows programs.

I can easily jump into any number of text files using SHE because she keeps
track of every file I've edited (up to 255 files) and the cursor position
in which
I left that file.  Also using a hypertext control file I can make memos about
the purpose of each file and then jump from that control file into any
of the files listed by hitting a hot key.

Limitation:  SHE only works with ASCII files of 60,000 bytes or less.



At 04:18 PM 10/31/97 +1100, you wrote:
>You know, I have this sneaking suspicion that DOS will really live
>forever. The DOS/PC emphasises back-compatibility - they did that for
>commerical reasons and I daresay that is partly why they have had so much
>success. There is an *incrediable* amount of DOS software available; and
>many people still use it, just as some still use old COBOL programs (which
>the 2000 year bug has highlighted). It makes sense to keep using it if
>it ain't broke.
>
>Now, Windows95 has been very popular; but it retains back-compatibility.
>WinCE and WinNT don't. Until they do, I don't know if they'll really
>take off...
>
>I saw an ad for a 5,000 pound Alpha workstation, the entry model running
>at 416MHz. Clearly emphasised in the ad was the feature that it could
>run *DOS* programs (evidently though an emulator).
>
>I have heard of someone almost finishing a DOS emulator for WinCE. If it's
>fast enough, WinCE may have a chance. IMHO.
>
>It doesn't make commerical sense to abandon a decade of excellent software.
>
>--
>bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
>"    People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for
>merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy
>against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.     "
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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>From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
>
>> Try LIST Version 9.1m. It work fine for me without any display
>> problems. If you need it I'll send it to you. Its a 104kb exe file.
>
>I use version 6.2 and it's only 8k. I like features like everyone, but
>what does the extra 96k buy you?

LIST comes in a self extracting archive so the 100K+ size is most
likely the archive.  When you run it (in an empty temp directory) it
will create about a dozen files including 3 versions of LIST; a small,
a medium, and a large.  I run the large one but if space is a problem
you can give up a few features and run one of the smaller ones.
I think PKLITE works against LIST so it can be made even smaller.

Along with LIST, a few other utilities are included in the archive.

LIST is good stuff!

Cheers,
Russ

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> I use version 6.2 and it's only 8k. I like features like everyone, but

Hi Longden,

I used version 7.6a and think it's too new and thus too large.
But I could not find the version you named... Could you tell
us where you get this one.

Rudi

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I managed to get these two talking via direct cable using the
built-in Win95 comm pgm (although it is terribly underfeatured) and
datacomm in the 200.

Does anyone use the Laplink found in d:\bin for both machines?  How
does it work?

I plan on using Commo when I get a modem.

Benson
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If they are abandonware then they are ABANDON-ware. They CANNOT make any
sales anymore. To put it another way: they have mad more than enough money
already! If nobody wants to buy them, why not make some people happy?

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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Nan-shan Chen wrote:

> > I use version 6.2 and it's only 8k. I like features like everyone, but
>
> Hi Longden,
>
> I used version 7.6a and think it's too new and thus too large.
> But I could not find the version you named... Could you tell
> us where you get this one.

I registered with Buerg back in '86 or '87, so this is the version he sent
me on a floppy (5.25" even) back then.

I checked http://www.shareware.com and found what looks like the same
version. Search on "butil1.zip", this is 1 of 4 archives with a collection
of his works dated '87.

This version doesn't do any of the Filer-type operations of his later
versions, but included the ability to re-configure for color (ie,
"clone"), display in hex, search for text, and runs in 96K or RAM....which
is pretty much all I want it to do.

I find that when all my utilities start getting too many features 1) they
take up more disk, 2) they need more RAM, 3) they run slower and take more
keystrokes and 4) they start becoming redundant with respect to each
other.

OTOH, I don't know all the bells and whistles of his newer versions (aside
from the Filer-type interface), so if someone can tell me what versions
7 - 9+ will do for me...?

- Longden

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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, B Wills wrote:

> I managed to get these two talking via direct cable using the
> built-in Win95 comm pgm (although it is terribly underfeatured) and
> datacomm in the 200.
>
> Does anyone use the Laplink found in d:\bin for both machines?  How
> does it work?
>
> I plan on using Commo when I get a modem.

General instructions for using Laplink to connect to a PC can be found at

        http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/faq.htm#12

Look there under the "Connectivity to desktop computers..." section for
the files you need to copy.

Then look at
        http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/w95.htm

for Win95 specific details.

Laplink lets one machine access the drives on the other machine as tho
they were its own (like DOS 6's interlnk/intersvr).

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:12:16 +0900
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Newton Keyboard Driver Ver.0.5 is now available from SUPER site
(www.palmtop.net/super.html).

The new features are:
o Apple+\(BackSlash) combination on Newton keyboard now works as a MENU
  key on the 200LX.
o Introduced the BREAK key function with combinations of Ctrl+Apple+/(Slash)
  or Ctrl+Apple+\(BackSlash) on Newton keyboard

The new driver works much better with the Filer app, which used COM1
port to communicate with the PC host. Just disable the driver, switch
the cables and here you go.

Several small bugs are removed.

Those who sells the Keyboard bundling the previous version of the driver
are kindly requested to update the driver in the package and support its
customers to update the driver.

Thanks,

Toshiki Sasabe
  home: toshiki@j.email.ne.jp
  work: toshiki.sasabe@digital.com

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:25:00 EST
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Subject:      H/PC's Spawning Usable Products

Well, I didn't think much good was going to come out of the hyped-up WinCE
market, but I opened my new Mobile Planet catalog and was proved wrong.

Examples:

EXP No Power (p. 14): a PCMCIA 33.6 cellular-ready modem with a compact
external battery pack

Socket Low Power Ethernet card (p. 14): although they claim it's only
compatible with WinCE machines, who knows?

Low cost flash memory (p. 15), including SunDisk compact flash with free
Type II adapter

In addition, I notice that some WinCE machines (Sharp's on p. 10) have
speed keys to load apps which look similar to those on the 200LX.  Also,
there are increasing numbers of apps available for the WinCE machines on
p. 16 (even a Quicken lookalike and a database program called Visual CE)
and, as has been discussed here, a DOS emulator is in the works.

This is just an observation, and is not meant to incur the wrath of my
fellow 200LX supporters.
- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:18:44 -0700
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What about a company that buys a competitior's product, so as to incorporate
the technology into its own product line.  Wouldn't they prefer that the
consumer purchase their new software, rather than declaring the competitor's
product to be freeware?  Someone once asked Ted Turner why in the world he
would want to colorize all those wonderful black and white movies he now owns
as part of the MGM library.  His answer went something like, Because I can -
because they're mine.  I paid a LOT of money for them, and I and other people
would be interested in seeing the colorized version.  Ownership of something
means that you can do anything legal.  Exercising your copyright powers over
your property is certainly legal.
For instance - Disney only releases its main animated features every several
years.  If I can't buy Snow White from Disney, do I have the right to bootleg
all the copies I want until they release it again?  What does that do to the
profit potential of a re-release?  I didn't make any profit, perhaps, but
Disney has had a profit loss.
I work for a company that produces software.  Our biggest competitor right now
is our old DOS version.  If everyone decided it is now free, because we don't
sell it, a lot of people would settle for the DOS product, since it is FREE.
 This would hurt sales of our Windows 95/NT version.


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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:32:17 -0700
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When we sell our software, we also offer a support contract.  If they don't buy
the contract, they don't get support.  If we don't sell support for that
product anymore, then NO ONE IS ENTITLED to support.  I don't drive my car up
to a Ford dealership, and say, "Can you help me fix this?  I brought my own
tools - I just need a little technical help.  They will say, "Pull it into the
shop and we will get a repair ticket for you."  They want money for what they
do, and for what they know.  Just like everyone else.
It costs money to maintain expertise on old software.  You have to retain the
people who worked on it.  You have to train technicians who signed on after the
product was obsolete.  You may be interested in doing this as a customer
service issue, but You will probably not generate or enhance any revenue doing
this.
You can probably read the software license and warranty statement again, and
you will probably not see anything in it about support being included.  Or
about ownership based on continued availability from the manufacturer.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Don Dartfield ÝSMTP:2d@INAME.COM¨
Sent:   Thursday, October 30, 1997 10:02 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: ownership-why not?  because its not the same!

if you made copies of your 386 computer many years ago, and made people
pay you for a copy, and now they cant get support from you
because your now selling copies of Pentiums, or because youve gone out
of buisness, then yes you do have an obligation to put it in public
domain, because you took money for your product but now the peoplewho
bought it cant get support for it and you dont sell it anymore. that
is the case with most abadnonware.   if you write a program for you own
use that you dont sell to people then you can do whatever you want with
it, juust like you and your 386 in real life, but software companies
who sell there products have an obligation to either keep sellling and
supporting their products, or give up ownership.

i have no problem with software companies owning their products just
for the sake of ownership, if they want to. but i *do* have a problem
with companies who sell products, then stop selling and supporting them
or go out of business, who still want to retain ownership.    for
example, laws are written now so that people can use private property
for riding bikes and stuff unless there are trespassing signs...but if
sombody gets hurt they cant sue the owner of the property if he didnt
charge to uss the property. but if he does charge to use it then he is
liable for the injury.  this is a good analagy.   the companies charged
for their software so they shouldnt complain when people copy the old
programs they dont sell or support anymore.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:22:00 -0600
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Like others, I wondered if the Psion S5 might be a possible replacement
for our HPLX's.

I subscribed to the S5 mailing list to get user information.  ÝEither
use the automated form at http://www.pinkworks.com/pda/s5list.html or
send an email to listserver@arch.pinkwork.com
with the message SUBSCRIBE SERIES5 in the first line of the body of your
email¨

The Psion is attractive, but besides what has already been stated here
(no DOS, lack of depth in applications, no macros in the spreadsheet) I
have found a number of negatives:

The nice hinge arrangement is cracking.

The "rubberized" coating on the S5 is wearing off.

The key markings are wearing off.

There are many "bugs" in the built in software.  Psion may address some
of them with a paid ROM upgrade in the future but is being quite "close"
with the information.

Psion has promised e-mail & Web software put has only released a Beta
version to their developer community (which paid for the privilege of
being a developer).

There are complaints about the high cost and lack of benefits of
becoming an official developer and talk of the user community starting
an independent site to collect development knowledge and share it
openly.

In short, it appears to me that the Psion S5 still has a lot of growing
to do.  I will happily stay with my HPLX for now.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:05:42 -0800
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I'm wondering if anyone in the group could "clue me in" on the scope and
depth of this problem as it doesn't seem to be too far from do-able but then
I'm not a surveyor nor a data modeler.

A friend of mine works for Orange County Ca. as a surveyor and uses an
HP200lx as the field data collection device. Some post collection processing
seems to be done on the HP possibly using an adaptation of DCP, apparently a
fairly standard surveying data processor. From there he downloads to a
laptop for some type of process and then sneaker nets it to some desktop
user (on one 1.44MB floppy) that does the final processing using MC5 (a
custom app for OC.) and Ustation (display and processing  backend for DCP)
and then prints topographical maps on a (probably HP) plotter.

My contention is that if the first stage data can be fit on 1.44 floppy, the
whole process could be done on the 200 including printing.

Ken Mead and Bob Krohn developed the MC5 app and its 200LX portion respectively
and I apologize in advance if I've butchered either their names or
processes, some of it is strictly cross discipline language probs.

Thanks a lot

Bill Buzan

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:09:41 -0400
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An exciting pgm to supplement the World Time feature built-in to the
LX 'puters..

This is the author's blurb:

The EARTHWATCH 3.5 program graphically displays a map of the world in
color showing the 24 hour night/day cycle due to the earth's rotation,
the monthly phases of the moon, and the earth's annual trip around the
sun, showing the passing of the four seasons.

Two separate programs are included: EWC (CGA graphics), and EWV (VGA
graphics).

A Mercator projection map of the world will slowly scroll eastward
across the screen in real time as the continents move from pre-dawn
darkness through sunrise, daylight, sunset, and back to night.  You
may choose from three map types: elevation, natural, or national
boundaries.

The shape of the daylight zone changes almost imperceptably from
day to day as the seasons progress, showing shorter days in winter and
longer in summer (for the Northern Hemisphere -- vice-versa in the
Southern Hemisphere).

Sunrise/sunset times and percentage of daylight for your designated
city and date are calculated and displayed.  The phase and position of
the moon are also displayed numerically and graphically.

The VGA version displays the Lat/Long coordinates and major city names
as you move a mouse-driven cursor over the map.

The Almanac screen displays additional ephemeral information including
a comparison of sunrise/sunset times with the previous day's, the
number of days remaining until the start of the next season (solstices
& equinoxes), and more.

Follow the sun's progress along its annual trek around the Analemma,
the figure 8 pattern found frequently on globes that shows the sun's
declination (apparent north-south excursions in the sky) and the
"equation of time."

The earth's 24 time zones are shown graphically, indicating the local
time worldwide and whether that location is experiencing night, day,
dawn, dusk, or anywhere between.

You may highlight up to ten locations around the world to monitor the
status of various cities, etc.

All of this may be done accurately in real time or for a past or
future date and time.

The EARTHWATCH program will run on any IBM compatible PC equipped with
CGA or VGA graphics support.
---------end of blurb---------------------

I installed this pgm on a 1 meg 200LX.  The main executable is only
75K after using PKLITE.

Aside from the fact that some of the help menus are hard to read
(there are no color settings that I can find), it runs great!!

I have no connection with the pgm or the author, just thought ya'll
might like to try something new on your LX's!  A WWW search for
"earthwatch" should turn up some convenient sources.

I didn't see a Wince version     :-)

Benson
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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:24:25 -0800
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Bill Buzan wrote:

> A friend of mine works for Orange County Ca. as a surveyor and uses an
> HP200lx as the field data collection device. Some post collection processing
> seems to be done on the HP possibly using an adaptation of DCP, apparently a
> fairly standard surveying data processor. From there he downloads to a
> laptop for some type of process and then sneaker nets it to some desktop
> user (on one 1.44MB floppy) that does the final processing using MC5 (a
> custom app for OC.) and Ustation (display and processing  backend for DCP)
> and then prints topographical maps on a (probably HP) plotter.
>
> My contention is that if the first stage data can be fit on 1.44 floppy, the
> whole process could be done on the 200 including printing.

I'm speaking out of my line of expertise, since I'm neither Civil Engineer
nor Surveyor, but it seems like it's not the size of the data but the type
that'd be the limitation.

I have Power Point presentations that would fit on a 1.44mb floppy, but
that doesn't mean I can find an app that will drive them on an LX.

If the laptop process, or MC5, or Ustation are Win/Win95 specific (no DOS
equivalent), or are so processor/disk intensive as to make the LX an
unworkable platform, I'd say your friend is "stuck" with his arrangment.

My $0.02

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:28:23 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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It seems to me that the limiting factor won't be the size of the data
file(s) being transferred, but whatever or not the "some type of
process" and the MC5 application will fit/run on the palmtop.  I have
had problems with proprietary software "running" on my palmtop, the
first to come to mind had a problem that turned out to be a free hard
drive space requirement of 1 meg (or more).  To get this application to
run I must "waste" an entire meg of my flash card to even get the app to
execute.

My two bits.
Phil

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>From:  Bill BuzanÝSMTP:bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM¨
>Sent:  Monday, November 03, 1997 1:05 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Civil Engineering / Surveying
>
>I'm wondering if anyone in the group could "clue me in" on the scope and
>depth of this problem as it doesn't seem to be too far from do-able but then
>I'm not a surveyor nor a data modeler.
>
>A friend of mine works for Orange County Ca. as a surveyor and uses an
>HP200lx as the field data collection device. Some post collection processing
>seems to be done on the HP possibly using an adaptation of DCP, apparently a
>fairly standard surveying data processor. From there he downloads to a
>laptop for some type of process and then sneaker nets it to some desktop
>user (on one 1.44MB floppy) that does the final processing using MC5 (a
>custom app for OC.) and Ustation (display and processing  backend for DCP)
>and then prints topographical maps on a (probably HP) plotter.
>
>My contention is that if the first stage data can be fit on 1.44 floppy, the
>whole process could be done on the 200 including printing.
>
>Ken Mead and Bob Krohn developed the MC5 app and its 200LX portion
>respectively
>and I apologize in advance if I've butchered either their names or
>processes, some of it is strictly cross discipline language probs.
>
>Thanks a lot
>
>Bill Buzan
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:07:24 -0600
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The consumer aircraft industry has a similar problem.  They are in
direct competition with the aircraft already in use.  The average age of
the national "fleet" (excepting military) is more than 30 years.  I can
understand the frustration programmers and software companies must feel,
having to compete with existing software (which in some cases by the
very nature of it's purpose, is better than what can be produced in
modern OS).  On the other hand, some devices do not need to be in
competition.  An example might be the small machine that injects the
trace odor into natural gas.  This device was in use for over 50 years
_without_ any changes and most of them required no maintenance or
attendance.  An example of a piece of software not requiring change can
be found in almost every automobile produced including an on-board fuel
management "computer".  (my Opel 1900, built in 1975 worked with out
computer maintenance, or software "improvement" for 15 years before it
was totaled.)
I do agree with people who would "protect" an investment, even if they
only intend to keep it off the market.  I do however, encourage
companies to continue marketing existing products, it's good for
customer relations.
I don't believe that just because something exists _everyone_ has a
RIGHT to access.  An example of this "right" concept taken to an extreme
might be... assume you leave for vacation, say 2 to 3 weeks, someone
notices that your house is "abandoned" and moves in...
Or lets say you win the neighborhood holiday display contest and (fully
intending to do the same display next year) your neighbor uses the same
display the following season?  He would say "well you didn't use it for
a whole year...".

Thanks for reading this, I have been thinking about this "abandonware"
concept for the few weeks I have been reading about it on this list.  I
needed to put my resultant mindset into writing (public) to solidify my
personal standing.

Phil


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>From:  Bryan PearsonÝSMTP:bryan@ONYXGFX.COM¨
>Sent:  Monday, November 03, 1997 11:18 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: ÝFLUFF¨ Abandonware: DENIED!
>
>What about a company that buys a competitior's product, so as to incorporate
>the technology into its own product line.  Wouldn't they prefer that the
>consumer purchase their new software, rather than declaring the competitor's
>product to be freeware?  Someone once asked Ted Turner why in the world he
>would want to colorize all those wonderful black and white movies he now owns
>as part of the MGM library.  His answer went something like, Because I can -
>because they're mine.  I paid a LOT of money for them, and I and other people
>would be interested in seeing the colorized version.  Ownership of something
>means that you can do anything legal.  Exercising your copyright powers over
>your property is certainly legal.
>For instance - Disney only releases its main animated features every several
>years.  If I can't buy Snow White from Disney, do I have the right to bootleg
>all the copies I want until they release it again?  What does that do to the
>profit potential of a re-release?  I didn't make any profit, perhaps, but
>Disney has had a profit loss.
>I work for a company that produces software.  Our biggest competitor right
>now
>is our old DOS version.  If everyone decided it is now free, because we don't
>sell it, a lot of people would settle for the DOS product, since it is FREE.
> This would hurt sales of our Windows 95/NT version.
>
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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:06:56 +0200
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This morning I recovered an unopened copy of Framework III V1.1.

I have copied a previous installation that I made for a Toshiba T1000 to
my 200LX and it works just fine - but now I will be able to optimise the
installation and really see how it performs on the 200LX.

Regards,


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Subject:      Re: Framework III
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Leo Theron wrote:

> This morning I recovered an unopened copy of Framework III V1.1.
>
> I have copied a previous installation that I made for a Toshiba T1000 to
> my 200LX and it works just fine - but now I will be able to optimise the
> installation and really see how it performs on the 200LX.

Leo,
Where the heck did you get it from?

Now if only someone can come up with Framework IV.

To the others on the list...Framework is a DOS integrated package from the
pre-windows era from Ashton-Tate (makers of dBase).

With its quick response and unique outliner based orientation and
programability (using the FRED language), it earned a dedicated following
(yours truly included...I still run it on my P166), but was probably
doomed by its lack of Windows/wysiwyg orientation...not to mention being
discontinued by Borland when A-T was swallowed by them.

BTW Leo, I run FW-3 on my 2x LX and it takes about 2.3mb on the PC card. I
set it to use EMM and MaxDOS. Let me know if you need any specifics.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:57:39 +0000
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              Miguel Angel <marecio@TORO.TEB.UPM.ES>
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Hello to everybody:
        This is my first message to any list, so first of all I suppose you
will notice of my ignorance, excuse me if I don't write a very good message.
I promise I'll learn to do it better.
       I'm progamming with TurboC++ 1.0 and when I load the executable code
to the palmtop and I try to execute it, the machine hangs!. I don't know if
I'm using the correct options to compile and to link the code. I use: code
for 8086, float point emulation, compact or large memory models. (I'm also
using hardware interruptions with the serial port.) I'm developing the
software on a 486 and all my programs works perfectly. I suposse it's a
memory problem but I'm not sure. If you use others compilers tell me which
and how to get it? May I use a compiler within the HP-200LX?
        Please, my proffesor (I'm a student) is going to cut my head if I
dont't had the solution this week ;-), it's part of a project of my career.
        Sorry for all my nonsenses and thanks in advance.

                Miguel

PS:If you need more information to solve my problem ask to me, I need to
"talk" somebody.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:02:47 -0500
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              Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
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From:         Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hinge crack...
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:46:06 EST."

Suresh Nirody <snirody@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU> wrote:

> When my HP200lx developed a crack, watching it during opening/closing it
> seemed to me that it was stressed more during closing than during
> opening. Of course the stress pattern may be different pre-crack and
> post-crack....

Another possibility is that the crack starts inside and works it way
out.

The discoloration that another writer had reported has started on mine,
despite my best efforts.  Inspection with a 30x magnifier (from Radio
Shack, the store we love to hate :-) confirms that it's a line of tiny
fractures.

My practice has been to close the case like a book, with each hand
fully covering each half, in an effort to balance force between the two
hinge points.  It has since occured to me that a more effective way of
reducing stress on the region  would be to apply the closing leverage
as close to the hinge as possible.  One potentially effective technique
would be to curl the fingers of each hand under the keyboard, and draw
the screen closed with the thumbs.  I'll try it for a few weeks, and see
if the fracture worsens.

                                -Jim.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:03:05 -0600
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From: Don Dartfield <2D@INAME.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: HP Flow Diagramming application!?
Date: Saturday, November 01, 1997 7:28 PM

what sort of symbols could you use, circles and squares and lines, if
so it would be good for those of us who would like to doodle or take notes
with the HP.

It would use symbols on virtual graph paper, where a symbol could be placed
into a square.  Line drawing, circles, squares, and flowcharting symbols
would definitely be there. Im toying with the idea of incorporating PCX
images as well so you could draw your own symbols.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:15:56 -0700
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              HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
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Subject:      Re: H/PC's Spawning Usable Products
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In-Reply-To:  <11031997112500.404N5T@email.bidmc.harvard.edu>

Item Subject: H/PC's Spawning Usable Products
     Hi!

     This is nice but can it store database files on that nice compact
     flash card?
     Answer:   NO!!!@#$%#$@!@.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-dsands (dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU) at HP-ColSprings,shargw1
Date:    11/3/97 9:25 AM


Well, I didn't think much good was going to come out of the hyped-up WinCE
market, but I opened my new Mobile Planet catalog and was proved wrong.

Examples:

EXP No Power (p. 14): a PCMCIA 33.6 cellular-ready modem with a compact
external battery pack

Socket Low Power Ethernet card (p. 14): although they claim it's only
compatible with WinCE machines, who knows?

Low cost flash memory (p. 15), including SunDisk compact flash with free
Type II adapter

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:26:47 -0600
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Jim's method suggestion (see below) caused me to analyze my closing
technique. I hold the palmtop in both hands, fingers under and thumbs
above, then reaching towards the hinge "knobs" with my thumbs I begin
the closing with my forefingers using my thumbs on the "knobs" to keep
the palmtop on my fingers, when the lid is partly closed I transfer the
closing action to my thumbs by removing them from the knobs and placing
them on the outer display case.  No cracks, discoloration or problems
with lose hinges.  My palmtop is 3 years old next January, carries
serial number SG45000099, and does not live inside any case or pouch.

On another note, I was able to remove, repair and replace my latch
_without_ disassembling the case!!!  I gently pried the case apart at
the latch opening, far enough to remove the 2 tiny plastic "springs"
(they are actually torsion bars) and the latch it's self.  I then fused
the springs back onto the latch using toluene (GC Electronics Print Kote
Solvent p.n. 22-209).  After 24 hours of during, I re-opened the case
using the above method and "dropped" the latch back into the case,
squeezed the case shut and now have full latch rebound.  This was 2
weeks ago today.

Phil

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>From:  Jim GonzalezÝSMTP:gonzalez@lads.is.lmco.com¨
>Sent:  Monday, November 03, 1997 3:02 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Hinge crack...
>
>My practice has been to close the case like a book, with each hand
>fully covering each half, in an effort to balance force between the two
>hinge points.  It has since occured to me that a more effective way of
>reducing stress on the region  would be to apply the closing leverage
>as close to the hinge as possible

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:19:00 -0500
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              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Abandonware, or not?
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CH>If they are abandonware then they are ABANDON-ware. They CANNOT make any
  >sales anymore. To put it another way: they have mad more than enough money
  >already! If nobody wants to buy them, why not make some people happy?

CH>--------------------------------------------

Yes, I agree!  I think the problems come when people assume that
because a product is no longer activiely marketed, then it is
abandonware.  It's not abandonware unless the copyright has been
released into the public domain.

Many companies may develop and release a product, then later pour many
more resources (cash) into developing a better version of the same
product.  In order to facilitate their ROI, they may elect to no
longer sell the older version in order to encourage sales of the newer
(and probably more expensive) version. This is their right, and I think
it's quite reasonable if they wish to do so.  Otherwise it would not be
worht their while to continue to develop better products.

Jim

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

 * 1st 2.00 ~ Doing my part to preserve order in the universe

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:41:21 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I think you are describing PAL Draw.  Search the web using Pal Draw as a
"key".

Phil
>

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:55:20 -0800
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> No cracks, discoloration or problems with lose hinges.  My palmtop is 3
> years old next January, carries serial number SG45000099, and does not
> live inside any case or pouch.

OTOH, it may be that your LX pre-dates a manufacturing change from HP that
may have resulted in the hinge problem. A friend of mine who uses his
SG509.....(early '95) religiously doesn't have any crack (nor loose
hinge).

My SG449... didn't have any problems till 6 months after an Express
Exchange (they tightened the hinge). Earlier posts made it sound like
problems began somewhere in the mid-1995 lot of palmtops.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:19:11 -0500
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              Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT>
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On  Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:29:25 -0400, B Wills wrote:

bt> I managed to get these two talking via direct cable using the
bt> built-in Win95 comm pgm (although it is terribly underfeatured) =
and
bt> datacomm in the 200.

Have you tried the Transfile software available at hp's site? Its much
easier than the method you've described and works reasonably well on
some of the win95 boxes I've tried it with tho not all.

I can't recall the correct url for this s/ware but it should be in =
the
hplx-l archives if you care to try it.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:32:24 -0600
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     Phil,

     I'm a new owener to the 200LX and want to avoid this hinge crack.
     Could you please explain your closing procedure again, I'm not able to
     replicate it.

     When you 'hold the palmtop in both hand', I read this as the keyboard
     in the palms, the screen facing you and thumbs on top of the keyboard.
     When trying this it doesn't seem very simple to 'begin the closing
     with my forefingers using my thumbs on the "knobs" to keep the palmtop
     on my fingers,...'

     Thanks,
Gregg

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Jim's method suggestion (see below) caused me to analyze my closing
technique. I hold the palmtop in both hands, fingers under and thumbs
above, then reaching towards the hinge "knobs" with my thumbs I begin
the closing with my forefingers using my thumbs on the "knobs" to keep
the palmtop on my fingers, when the lid is partly closed I transfer the
closing action to my thumbs by removing them from the knobs and placing
them on the outer display case.  No cracks, discoloration or problems
with lose hinges.  My palmtop is 3 years old next January, carries
serial number SG45000099, and does not live inside any case or pouch.

On another note, I was able to remove, repair and replace my latch
_without_ disassembling the case!!!  I gently pried the case apart at the
latch opening, far enough to remove the 2 tiny plastic "springs" (they
are actually torsion bars) and the latch it's self.  I then fused the
springs back onto the latch using toluene (GC Electronics Print Kote
Solvent p.n. 22-209).  After 24 hours of during, I re-opened the case
using the above method and "dropped" the latch back into the case,
squeezed the case shut and now have full latch rebound.  This was 2 weeks
ago today.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Jim GonzalezÝSMTP:gonzalez@lads.is.lmco.com¨
>Sent:  Monday, November 03, 1997 3:02 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Hinge crack...
>
>My practice has been to close the case like a book, with each hand
>fully covering each half, in an effort to balance force between the two
>hinge points.  It has since occured to me that a more effective way of
>reducing stress on the region  would be to apply the closing leverage
>as close to the hinge as possible

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:36:45 +0000
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              Tony Jacobs <tony-j@ZEN.CO.UK>
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THIS COULD HAPPEN !!!

RE:     Gates buys Clinton


REDMOND, Wash. - Oct. 21, 1997 -- In direct response to accusations made

by the Department of Justice, the Microsoft Corp. announced today that
it will be acquiring the federal government of the United States of
America   for an undisclosed sum. "It's actually a logical extension of
our planned growth", said Microsoft chairman Bill Gates, "It really is
going to be a positive arrangement for everyone".
Microsoft representatives held a briefing in the oval office of the
White House with U.S. President Bill Clinton, and assured members of the
press that changes will be "minimal". The United States will be managed
as a wholly owned division of Microsoft. An initial public offering is
planned for July of next year, and the federal government is expected to
be profitable by "Q4 1999 at latest", according to Microsoft president
Steve Ballmer.

In a related announcement, Bill Clinton stated that he had "willingly
and enthusiastically" accepted a position as a vice president with
Microsoft, and will continue to manage the United States government,
reporting directly to Bill Gates. When asked how it felt to give up the
mantle of executive authority to Gates, Clinton smiled and referred to
it as "a relief". He went on to say that Gates has a "proven track
record", and that U.S. citizens should offer Gates their "full support
and confidence". Clinton will reportedly be earning several times the
$200,000 annually he has earned as U.S. president, in his new role at
Microsoft.

Gates dismissed a suggestion that the U.S. Capitol be moved to Redmond
as "silly", though did say that he would make executive decisions for
the U.S. government from his existing office at Microsoft headquarters.
Gates went on to say that the House and Senate would "of course" be
abolished.  "Microsoft isn't a democracy", he observed, "and look how
well we're doing".

When asked if the rumored attendant acquisition of Canada was
proceeding, Gates said, "We don't deny that discussions are taking
place". Microsoft representatives closed the conference by stating that
United States citizens will be able to expect lower taxes, increases in
government services and discounts on all Microsoft products.

About Microsoft:
Founded in 1975, Microsoft (NASDAQ "MSFT") is the worldwide leader in
software for personal computers, and democratic government. The company
offers a wide range of products and services for public, business and
personal use, each designed with the mission !
of making it easier and more enjoyable for people to take advantage of the
full power of personal computing and free society every day.

About the United States:
Founded in 1789, the United States of America is the most technically
advanced nation in the history of the world, and has been a beacon of
democracy and opportunity for over 200 years. Headquartered in
Washington, D.C., the United States is a wholly owned subsidiary of
Microsoft Corporation.
============================================
(Dont look now, but Bill Gates is watching you from through a little
camera in your Internet Explorer 4.0 browser back button.
============================================

If you liked this send it to your friends.  Give Mike Clagett full credit
but please leave it in it's entirely.  We'd like the announcement of
the 24-7.com to go to as many as possible.  Thanks.
Tony

ICQ :        3166307
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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:36:15 -0800
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Framework was a great program for DOS computers integrating spreadsheet,
wp, and database, and should be a good match for LX200.  But--it
required a (software security) "system disk" kept in Drive A: in order
to run.  Were you able to copy the system disk to the HPLX C: drive?  Or
did you have another work-around?


Leo Theron wrote:
>
> This morning I recovered an unopened copy of Framework III V1.1.
>
> I have copied a previous installation that I made for a Toshiba T1000 to
> my 200LX and it works just fine - but now I will be able to optimise the
> installation and really see how it performs on the 200LX.
<snip>

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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:12:14 PST
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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Good!  It's about time our government shaped up! Profitable by
Q4 1999?  Like Gates or not, the U.S. could stand to earn a
little money instead of losing it by the billions.

;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:36:43 +1100
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> code for 8086, float point emulation, compact or large memory models.
> (I'm also using hardware interruptions with the serial port.)

Just off the top of my head:
The hp200lx has it's own set of interupts: may be a problem there.

I use Turbo C++ to compile on the palmtop itself; but with no problems.
I'm using the compact model - I think large may give problems.

Why don't you try a simple subset of your program to see if that works
first? You can narrow down the problem that way ... eg exclude all
interupts... It seems slower, but often its the fastest way of all!

--
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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:19:21 -0600
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Phil,

PAL Draw is actually alot more than what im working on.  PAL Draw is a full
Cad environment where you can place entities anywhere, size rotate, etc.
The application im working on is a simple tile based system where tiles
containing various symbols are placed onto virtual graph paper and auto
sized and attached to the frame where they are placed.  Then optionally
each frame could link to additional text. A quick and dirty application to
replace text drawing, and provided simple flowcharting, org charting tools.

From what Ive seen PAL Draw is overkill for that task. No offense intended
as it looks to be an excellent program.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 3:41 PM
>
> I think you are describing PAL Draw.  Search the web using Pal Draw as a
> "key".
>
> Phil
> >
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:23:37 +1300
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              Michelle Honey <honey@NZNET.GEN.NZ>
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At 12:09 PM 3/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Leo Theron wrote:
>
>> This morning I recovered an unopened copy of Framework III V1.1.

>Leo,
>Where the heck did you get it from?
>
>Now if only someone can come up with Framework IV.
>
>To the others on the list...Framework is a DOS integrated package from the
>pre-windows era from Ashton-Tate (makers of dBase).
>
Great News for those who have/want to have Framework!

Framework IV was the last version produced by Ashton-Tate before Borland
canned it.
It has a number of improvements over FW3, incuding the ability to read write
to dBase III
files on disk, use of fonts (bitstream and printer), and others.

I am constantly amazed at how much Windows 3.1/95 have adopted Framework's
features,
and how many of the features would satisfy users of other s/ware commented
on in this forum.

But  there's more - another company in the US has obtained the rights to
Framework and is
developing it further with Hypertext/HTML, Internet links etc, etc.
Framework V is described at
on their internet site at:
http//www.framework.com

They have a HP200LX Internet version of Framework V.

As an avid fan of Framework (since FW2), I suscribed this Listserv to learn
more about the HP200L
 which like to aquire, primarily to run Framework.

 I would  I would also love to see a review of Framework V.

PS  If anyone has a HP200LX for sale, I'm interested - pse e-mail me at:
honey@nznet.gen.nz

Craig Honey
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Just received the Newton Keyboard from Shier Systems.  I am using the
Ver. 0.5 driver and it's working like a charm.  Installation took about
3 minutes.  I began typing at virtually the same speed as my desktop
keyboard.  Congratulations to Shier Systems for making the modified
hardware available.  I can tell this will certainly increase my use of
the HP200LX for word processing.

Les Cohn

The Ver. 0.5 Newton Keyboard Driver Ver.0.5 is now available from SUPER
Site:  at    http://www.palmtop.net/super.html).

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              B Wills <btw@VNET.NET>
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Has anyone tried putting a tiny drop of superglue on the crack?
Would it be drawn in by capillary action and stop further
damage or would it lockup the hinge?
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: > code for 8086, float point emulation, compact or large memory models.
: > (I'm also using hardware interruptions with the serial port.)

: Just off the top of my head:
: The hp200lx has it's own set of interupts: may be a problem there.

I missed the original message, but the 200's interrupts are extensions
of INT 10, they wouldn't have any effect on the serial port.

: I use Turbo C++ to compile on the palmtop itself; but with no problems.
: I'm using the compact model - I think large may give problems.

MASM 5.1/QuickBASIC 4.5.  Ran like a dream.

: Why don't you try a simple subset of your program to see if that works
: first? You can narrow down the problem that way ... eg exclude all
: interupts... It seems slower, but often its the fastest way of all!

I'll go with you on that one.  I've had to test 5,000 line programs down to
the function for stripping 0's off fixed-length fields -- it wasn't any fun
but I found the problem.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
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     Hi!
     Yep I did and no more problems. Make sure it cots both sides. let it
     dry about half hour or so.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    11/3/97 9:19 PM


Has anyone tried putting a tiny drop of superglue on the crack?
Would it be drawn in by capillary action and stop further
damage or would it lockup the hinge?
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Date:         Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:48:11 -0800
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From:         Peter Castro <doctor@FRUITBAT.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Hinge crack...
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Jim Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Suresh Nirody <snirody@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU> wrote:
>
> > When my HP200lx developed a crack, watching it during opening/closing it
> > seemed to me that it was stressed more during closing than during
> > opening. Of course the stress pattern may be different pre-crack and
> > post-crack....
>
> My practice has been to close the case like a book, with each hand
> fully covering each half, in an effort to balance force between the two
> hinge points.  It has since occured to me that a more effective way of
> reducing stress on the region  would be to apply the closing leverage
> as close to the hinge as possible.  One potentially effective technique
> would be to curl the fingers of each hand under the keyboard, and draw
> the screen closed with the thumbs.  I'll try it for a few weeks, and see
> if the fracture worsens.

  This has always been my method of closing my 200LX.  It just seemed
natural since I do most of my palmtop operations with my thumbs ;-).
Unfortunately, this will not prevent the dreaded crack!  After I looked
at the picture on the website, I gave the areas near the hinges careful
observation.  Sad to say, I have a crack forming on the right hinge.  Has
anyone a good solution for stopping the crack for progressing?

>                                 -Jim.

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:23:34 GMT
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> I work for a company that produces software.  Our biggest competitor right now
> is our old DOS version.  If everyone decided it is now free, because we don't
> sell it, a lot of people would settle for the DOS product, since it is FREE.
>  This would hurt sales of our Windows 95/NT version.

"A lot of people would settle for the DOS product": these are your customers,
why not sell the DOS version (profitably)?  This whole abandonware thing got
started because of companies deciding that their customers did not want DOS
programs but ONLY the latest trendy stuff.  I think those companies are wrong.
Sell both, same price and direct mail order only for DOS if you think volumes
are going to be low, charge for support too.

Cheers,
Tim Phipps.
Obviously not speaking for Hewlett-Packard.

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:32:09 -0000
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From:         Lee Wright <wrightl@POSTOFFICE.CO.UK>
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I've just sold my 200LX, and have the following left which I'd like to sell:

- HP AC/DC adapter (for use in the UK)
- HP serial cable to connect to PC
- HP modem/printer adapter kit
- HP Palmtop Shareware CD (from www.rundel-d.com)
- ABC/LX battery charging software (highly recommended)

plus a couple of NiMH AA cells and a back-up cell

If anyone is interested in any/all of the above then please contact me at: Lee@pemail.net

I'd rather sell as a package, but will split if required.

Thanks,
Lee

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:54:48 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>The hp200lx has it's own set of interupts: may be a problem there.

Yes and no - all the usual interrupts are the same. But there are a numbe=
r
extra interrupts for reading battery power, set charging mode, power off
timeout etc. I have written several programs (including a COM program) fo=
r
the LX in C (Turbo C++ v. 1) and/or assembler without any problems.

It sounds like a memory or pointer problem.

Jorgen
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:07:43 +0100
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Subject:      European glue for hinge crack

Good day to everybody,

since I think I could be close to enjoy the hinge crack, can someone who
has successfully fixed the problem give me the name of the glue used for the
purpose? I need a product which is available in Europe.

Thanks a lot in advance

Sergio

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I contacted the group to find a training program last summer
and you answered me that you are working for GEMPLUS in the south of
FRANCE (Gemenos near Marseille). I'm sorry but i loose your e-mail
address. PLEASE contact me. I'd like  to know who you think I should
contact.

                       thanks


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Francois-Xavier Albouy
my schools:
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 05:56:08 PST
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I found 2 softwares (IN FRENCH) that work well on the palmtop:
PCGLOBE a world atlas with lots of data.
Autoroute Express Road Map of France: just give your way points and it
will give you the path to follow.



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Does anyone have MS Word 5.5 running on a 200LX?  Would it be too
gargantuan to run on a 1 meg unit?  How much disk space does it
require?

If it's too big, which version of Word should I look for?

Benson
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:10:40 +0000
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Have ever you try wit SUPER GLUE-3 made by LOCTITE CORPORATION U.S.A. ?
It's sold in Europe.

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A couple weeks ago someone asked about the availability of Procomm
shareware version.  I have been going through my old software and found a=

disk for version 2.42, the last shareware version.  If anyone is
interested, e-mail me and I will forward it to you.

Gordon
gpavy@compuserve.com

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Stephen Ward wrote:

> Framework was a great program for DOS computers integrating spreadsheet,
> wp, and database, and should be a good match for LX200.  But--it
> required a (software security) "system disk" kept in Drive A: in order
> to run.  Were you able to copy the system disk to the HPLX C: drive?  Or
> did you have another work-around?

I ran FW2-3 and don't recall ever needing a system disk for security. A
straight copy of the desktop files (FW3) to a single directory on the LX
works fine.

- Longden

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     Hello,

     I have just submitted tickler.zip to the Mitch for addition to the
     Super page.  Tickler.exe is a program I wrote to scan a X00LX
     appointment database, extract future appointments, sort the
     appointments and report on how many weeks lead time there is for each
     appointment.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Consultant
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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>From:    Nan-shan Chen <chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE>
>
>I used version 7.6a and think it's too new and thus too large.
>But I could not find the version you named... Could you tell
>us where you get this one.

Vern Buerg' web site is at...

    http://www.buerg.com/about.html

cheers...
Russ

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Fred,

Looked like something you might be interested in.

Ed


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     Hello,

     I have just submitted tickler.zip to the Mitch for addition to the
     Super page.  Tickler.exe is a program I wrote to scan a X00LX
     appointment database, extract future appointments, sort the
     appointments and report on how many weeks lead time there is for each
     appointment.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Consultant
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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              Miguel Angel <marecio@TORO.TEB.UPM.ES>
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Hi boys:
  I come back with ,maybe ,easy questions:
   Does anybody know how to get control over the serial port via interrupts?
Is there any possibility to get complete information of the HARDWARE, BIOS
interrupts, memory map of the HP-200LX?
  Do you know about any source code to control a modem on the Palmtop? I'm
"making" myself a communication protocol and I need to use it, and I Know
only a little HAYES commands but I don't know how to control the modem errors?

Miguel

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:44:45 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Framework III
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On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Craig Honey wrote:

> Framework IV was the last version produced by Ashton-Tate before Borland
> canned it.  It has a number of improvements over FW3, incuding the
> ability to read write to dBase III files on disk, use of fonts
> (bitstream and printer), and others.

That's one of the reasons I want it...as a dBase front end (like @base for
123).... do you know where I can get a copy?

> I am constantly amazed at how much Windows 3.1/95 have adopted
> Framework's features, and how many of the features would satisfy users
> of other s/ware commented on in this forum.

OTOH, FW's whole perspective of how to handle frames (their pre-cursor to
a "window") would take LX (or non-FW) users some getting used to.

> But there's more - another company in the US has obtained the rights to
> Framework and is developing it further with Hypertext/HTML, Internet
> links etc, etc.  Framework V is described at on their internet site at:
> http//www.framework.com

I spoke to Moshe, the keeper of that site. Apparently he filed a
class-action suit on behalf of FW users against Borland when Borland
decided to drop FW and says the outcome of the protracted legal battle
resulted in FW development and marketing rights being given to him (tho
how that actually works is unclear to me)....something for the
"abandon-ware"  advocates to consider.

> They have a HP200LX Internet version of Framework V.

They seem to be advocating NetTamer as a partner to FW-5.

> As an avid fan of Framework (since FW2), I suscribed this Listserv to
> learn more about the HP200L which like to aquire, primarily to run
> Framework.

Having used FW for a LONG time, it was one of the first major app that I
loaded to the 200LX. Having resolved space and performance problems by
upgrading the LX (2x and 6mb plus EMM), I still find myself using FW less
than the native apps for the simple reason that the native apps are quite
good.

FW is good for those times when I need to build a "folder" with a
mixed bag of notes and spreadsheets, or for the occasional report for
work. Its spell-checker/dictionary is probably used more than anything
else (the definitions are better than those from Jorj...sometimes).

If I had a 1000CX (the anorexic LX), FW would be my choice of things to
run on it.

> I would  I would also love to see a review of Framework V.

So would I, before forking over the $250 for a copy (plus added $100
for the palmtop version). Moshe also says the FW-4 version is available on
the same CD, but I'd hate to pay that price considering the upgrade to
FW-4 was originally only $99 (which included support and printed updated
documentation). I don't think he offers a "try before you buy".

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:48:42 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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IMHO - The abandonware discussion has gone on long enough. The whole
thing can be summed up simply:
        1 The owners of software have a legal right to stop selling=
 it.
        2 We have the right to resent their doing it.
---------------
Businesses seem to have either of two very different attitudes. Either
they choose to serve their customers, or service them. If you don't
know the difference, visit a farm when they bring in a bull to do his
thing...  8-)

The good guys pay attention to the customers needs. If enough people
want an older product to cut into sales of the latest release, maybe
they should be recognized as a potentially profitable niche market.

Most of us DOS palmtop folks aren't pirates or thieves - We'll buy the
software if it's available.  Just don't give us the corporate attitude
that our market is irrelevant.  If our potential market is so tiny as
to be unimportant, then nothing is lost by licensing the older software
to a third party.  If, on the other hand, there's enough demand for=
 the
old stuff to hurt sales of the new product, then this is a source of
profit.

A novel idea --- Ask the customers what they want; don't try to TELL
them.

PR
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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
      "We have met the enemy, and he is us"       - Pogo

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:02:17 -0500
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              hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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Bryan Pearson wrote:

<<When we sell our software, we also offer a support contract. ... I don't
drive my car up to a Ford dealership, and say, "Can you help me fix this?
I brought my own tools - I just need a little technical help...They want
money for what they do, and for what they know. >>

A car has wear and tear.  Software doesn't.  Auto Defects are covered in
recalls and warranties.  If software is buggy or poorly documented, whose
fault is that?

I agree, dumb users should pay for help that's obvious, but where's the
line between dumb users and poor documentation?

Companies which have great support, have lines of users at their door.
Obviously, helping them costs, but you get more of them...

In any event, with abandonware, the idea is this:

If a company is gone, it's ownership null, then it's no problem to use
"abandonware."  If a company exists, but no longer sells/ supports the
soft, then it seems only logical that a person who has paid $$ for it,
deserves to use it.  If they can't use it because of bugs or poor
documentation, then they get ripped off when there's no support.  The
company gave them a cheap product.

In this light, they have a right to ask others for support, even if that
means allowing a consultant to use the product to help them.  If I put
unsupported soft on the web to get assistance, I am doing nothing more than
what is my right, as I see it.

Well, it's just that I need the whole world to support the product in lieu
of lacking official support.

Got a problem with that?  Support me!

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:08:03 -0500
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Bryan Pearson wrote:

<<...Our biggest competitor right now is our old DOS version.  If everyone
decided it is now free, because we don't sell it, a lot of people would
settle for the DOS product, since it is FREE. >>

How can a product that isn't even available, either over or under the
counter, compete with the only version available?  I don't understand.
Unless it is already FREE.

<< This would hurt sales of our Windows 95/NT version. >>

Well, since I can't run NT on my palmtop, I guess I won't use either of
your products.  And I guess I will never learn how great a program it is,
and won't wanna upgrade to the NT version on my desktop.

Ah, well.  The palmtop market is small. No big loss, right?  Let me just
add: People who use DOS over a more enhanced 95/NT version are probably
doing so because they don't have a choice--They can't run NT!!!  I really
can't believe most users are saying, "Well the six-year old DOS version is
on the web for FREE, whilst the sparkling new NT version with documents
costs $49.99.  Guess I'm gonna run the DOS version on my 256 MB Pent II."

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:27:32 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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My two simple rules.

1.) Don't bother anyone.
2.) Don't waste time.

Things that violate rule one:

Justifying your actions to others. (soapboxing)
Making "open" statements. (baiting)
Lying. (advertising)
This post. (shoot me)


Things that violate rule two:

Responding to violations of rule one.
Committing acts listed in rule one.
This post. (shoot me again :)
Responding to this post. (see item one, rule two)

Phil

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:47:41 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Can someone who is currently using NiMH batteries successfully in the
200LX tell me what charging procedure they use. I have just aquired a
brand new pair and want to get the most from them. Thanks in advance!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@(nospam)scott.net
Remove (nospam) to email me!


    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Subject:      Re: Serial and Modem communications
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>  I come back with ,maybe ,easy questions:
>   Does anybody know how to get control over the serial port via interrupts?
>Is there any possibility to get complete information of the HARDWARE, BIOS
>interrupts, memory map of the HP-200LX?

That's all in the Software Development Kit sold by Thaddeus Computer. It's
contains, among ther things, an exhaustive hardware description.
*Everything* about the 200LX hardware can be found there.

>"making" myself a communication protocol and I need to use it, and I Know
>only a little HAYES commands but I don't know how to control the modem
errors?

There's a lot of serial communications code out there. Communicating with a
modem is just a matter of serial communcation and a some extra control
lines. All the rest of modem control is done through special character
strings.

Saludos. Nacho.

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:38:41 -0500
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Hi,

I bought a 200LX in november 96, i knew about the problem and check
my unit 4 months ago, seen nothing.  After reading the survey
message, i went on the web site, read it, check my unit again and
surprise a huge crack, haven't notice it before.  Since i had only 18
days of warranty left, i call the hp customer service in my region
(Canada), sent my unit on friday, received a brad new unit on tuesday
( i think, it' new, at least it looks new).

First, thanks for the survey, it made me realise that i  had a
problem before me warranty expire.

Second, thanks to the HP customer service for being the most
efficient, replacing my defective unit with a new one so fast.

third, would you have any tricks to prevent this problem ?

 1.  2 meg HP200LX

 2.  SG63701988

 3.  purchased new

 4.  november 1996

 5.  Notice Crack after 11 months of use

 6.  Always in Leather case when carried

7. replace in october 1997 with SG63102353, took 3 working days to
exchange

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:02:00 -0500
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              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      found : WORLD ATLAS and Road MAP of France
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-> I found 2 softwares (IN FRENCH) that work well on the palmtop:
-> PCGLOBE a world atlas with lots of data.
-> Autoroute Express Road Map of France: just give your way points and
-> it will give you the path to follow.

Does anyone know of any map or atlas programs of the U.S. that I could
run on a 200LX?

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:14:00 -0500
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Lynn,

CL>I question, however, whether a software firm is making the best judgement
  >when it things of an early DOS version of a program as being in competition
  >with the new windoze95 version.  After a few years, and a few updates of the
  >software, it might be prudent to consider whether there is a new,
  >non-competing market where they could make additional profit on the initial
  >investment by re-introcucing the product at a price point which makes sense
  >to both the owner and the market -- either a lower or a higher price point,
  >as market analysis indicates.  The decisions on support, packaging and the
  >like (minimilistic or top drawer) will be driven by the market and the profi
  >motive.

And I agree with you also.  As I said before, I *wish* they would
release the copyrights on software they no longer actively market, but
they are under no obligation to do so.  It's their property.

CL>There is no freedom if it does not include the freedom to be a horse's ass.
  > A company is under no complusion to market its assets.  However, most of us
  >strive to minimize the time that we assume the role of horse's ass.

Yepper.

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:25:51 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Jeff wrote:

> Can someone who is currently using NiMH batteries successfully in the
> 200LX tell me what charging procedure they use. I have just aquired a
> brand new pair and want to get the most from them. Thanks in advance!

I use "Yes Solar" 1300mAh NiMH. All my recharging revolves around the use
of ABC/LX, but as I've only had them for a few weeks, I'm still groping to
see what works best. One thing tho...when they drain down they take quite
a bit longer than NiCd to recharge.  Email me if you want more details.

If you search the list archives for NiMH you should find alot of stuff
mentioned over the last few months.

- Longden

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        "Abandonware" is stuff that is "in principle, temporarily"
abandoned. The copyright holder does NOT have to release it into the
public domain, and "at any time before the expiration of the copyright"
the copyright holder may decide to resume marketing it.
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:41:06 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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>Does anyone know of any map or atlas programs of the U.S. that I could
>run on a 200LX?

There is some info on AutoMap 1.0 for DOS here:

http://www.palmtop.net/retro.html

Also, PC Globe 4.0 and 5.0 (the English version) work very well on the HP.
You can get some funny stares when you play the various national anthems
though. :) I do have access to a few copies of this software in a "retro"
format.

Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:57:10 -0500
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Someone wrote:

> Q: How many HPLX mail list subscribers does it take to change
>   a light bulb?    A: 1,392.

> Here's the breakdown:
>  1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the
>    light bulb has been changed...
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
>    light bulb could have been changed differently,
>  4 to complain that they were happy with the old one,
>  7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
> 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing  light
bulbs,
> 53 to flame the spell checkers,
>156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb
>    discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list,
> 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames,
>109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please
>    take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb,
>203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
>    alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped,
>111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light
>    bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list,
>306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior,
>    where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work
>    best for this technique, and what brands are faulty,
> 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs,
> 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post
>    corrected URLs,
> 12 to flame the AOL users for violating netiqutte and blame them for
>    starting this whole thing,
> 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that "are relevant to this
>   list, which makes light bulbs relevant to this list,"
> 45 posts about weather or not AOL should even be allowed to exist,
> 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all
>    headers and footers, and then add "Me Too,"
> 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they
>   cannot handle the light bulb controversy,
> 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three,"
> 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ,
> 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup,
> 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for,
>  leave it here, and
> 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.

Me too!
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hplx wrote:
>
> Someone wrote:
>
> > Q: How many HPLX mail list subscribers does it take to change
> >   a light bulb?    A: 1,392.
>
......

Amen!

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              Leo Theron <leot@ISDIAL.COM>
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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Stephen Ward wrote:
>
> > Framework was a great program for DOS computers integrating
> spreadsheet,
> > wp, and database, and should be a good match for LX200.  But--it
> > required a (software security) "system disk" kept in Drive A: in
> order
> > to run.  Were you able to copy the system disk to the HPLX C:
> drive?  Or
> > did you have another work-around?
>
> I ran FW2-3 and don't recall ever needing a system disk for security.
> A
> straight copy of the desktop files (FW3) to a single directory on the
> LX
> works fine.
>

Agree - install in correctly and you are away - copy it over and you
will struggle!

Regards,


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Miguel Angel wrote:
>
> Hi boys:

Hey Miguel, there are several girls here too, Me being one of them.
:)  (Just a reminder to this list)

Marta

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Comments: To: tony-j@zen.co.uk

i'm guessing that the HP260LX doesn't have much of a change in your
alternative universe -- if it is an alternative.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish
                        team hp260lx

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:49:13 -0800
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> third, would you have any tricks to prevent this problem ?

I have two '94 200 LX's and one of them was floppy and wouldn't stay up
when opened. No cracks, but still it was a pain to use. When someone
said you could put isopropyl alcohol on it and make it stay up, I went
and got some, put a few drops on, and sure enough, it stayed up! But it
was still just slightly loose, so a few days later, I put more on, this
time really drenching it in alcohol..

Now it's too tight! I can see I am really putting a strain on the case
to open/close it, as the case kind of bends and creaks when I do this.
Any ideas how to gently loosen this up without making it floppy again?

I just don't want to develop a crack where there is none. Apparently the
'94 versions don't get cracks, at least I haven't seen anyone comment on
this so far, but it is so hard to open that I think I'm pushing the
envelope! er, case! I'm afraid it's going to crack after all.

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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     Hi!
     To much of a good thing will almost always back fire.
     One quarter of a trop of oil may do the trick.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Now it's too tight! I can see I am really putting a strain on the case
to open/close it, as the case kind of bends and creaks when I do this.
Any ideas how to gently loosen this up without making it floppy again?


Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-ColSprings-om1.om.hp.com wrote:
>
>
>      Too much of a good thing will almost always back fire.
>      One quarter of a drop of oil may do the trick.
>
>
>      Helmut in Colorado

Thanks, Helmut,

I'd be more inclined to use rubbing alcohol, which is said to have oil
in it!  But I think I'll just leave it alone for now, since these '94
cases don't seem to crack, and originally the ones in the stores seemed
to be about this tight.

Thanks!

        Bob (in Los Angeles)

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At 08:01 PM 4/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>i'm guessing that the HP260LX doesn't have much of a change in your
>alternative universe -- if it is an alternative.
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
>                        team hp260lx


HP260LX ?

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Hello to everyone,
        This is my first post here. I have a 200LX and an old 95LX. I got
hooked on HP stuff when I bought my first HP calculator in high school
in 1975. It was a HP-25 that cost 195$.
        Anyway, I keep reading about "Buerg" in this group and I was wondering
if it had anything to do with "Buerg Computers" which is a small mom and
pop computer store 5 minutes from my house in Petaluma, Calif. that I
sometimes buy stuff from. I went to their web site and sure enough it is
the same place, the owners picture is even there. I just thought that
was kinda funny.
        Back to business, I am very interested in the crack problem. Using my
radio shack microscope (like the post from earlier this week) I too have
a crack developing. I e-mailed one of the group members to get extra
info on he dealt with it, and I have been carefully reading all of the
other related posts (as well as all of the other posts). I am curious if
anyone has any other suggestions on how to deal with it, perhaps things
they tried which worked or didn't work. I am also curious to find out
what HP has told those people who have called and asked for assitance to
remedy the crack.

                I appreciate all of your input,

                        Richard Bueker

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I run both pcGlobe and usGlobe on my 200LX. I keep them both on a flash
card.
        Richard Bueker
p.s. the store that was selling pcGlobe (on CD-ROM yet) was only
charging 3 or 5 dollars for it. I copied it from the CD and downloaded
it to the flashcard. No problemo.

PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:
>
> -> I found 2 softwares (IN FRENCH) that work well on the palmtop:
> -> PCGLOBE a world atlas with lots of data.
> -> Autoroute Express Road Map of France: just give your way points and
> -> it will give you the path to follow.
>
> Does anyone know of any map or atlas programs of the U.S. that I could
> run on a 200LX?
>
> --
>  (Jim Henry)
>  AirPower Services    http://www.voicenet.com/~jimhenry
>  Interested in Firearms, RKBA, Airguns, the Shooting Sports?
>  AirPower BBS * 24 hrs/day * 28800 bps * 610.259.2193
>      PRN Regional HQ, Northeast United States
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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:18:46 -0800
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              "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM>
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What can you tell me about the special nature of the HP-LX's video
graphics mode?  How can I get software like Autocad to use this mode, or
is there some way to get the video to emulate a CGA or EGA screen?

David

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:20:42 -0800
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Just announcing the first meeting of the South Santa Clara County Palmtop
User's Group!  The meeting's open to any/all palmtop users or pepple interested
in palmtops, not just DOS LXs, although it appears that most of the attendees
will be possessing these.

The meeting's going to take place at Mountain Mike's Pizza, in Morgan Hill, CA,
at 7:30pm on Monday, Nov. 10th.

Tell your friends!

Bill

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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You are missing the point that some of us want ACTION.
We want to get the law changed and that's why we
keep talking about it.


At 11:48 AM 11/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>IMHO - The abandonware discussion has gone on long enough.


Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:44:02 -0800
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>The new driver works much better with the Filer app, which used COM1
>port to communicate with the PC host. Just disable the driver, switch
>the cables and here you go.


I don't understand.

Do you mean disable the Newton driver and switch to a cable connected
to a host computer when you want to do file transfers?

That's what I do now.
What's the difference?




>
>Several small bugs are removed.
>
>Those who sells the Keyboard bundling the previous version of the driver
>are kindly requested to update the driver in the package and support its
>customers to update the driver.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Toshiki Sasabe
>  home: toshiki@j.email.ne.jp
>  work: toshiki.sasabe@digital.com
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SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
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     Hi!
     I think he wanted to say 360LX.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-honey (honey@NZNET.GEN.NZ) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/4/97 9:04 PM


At 08:01 PM 4/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>i'm guessing that the HP260LX doesn't have much of a change in your
>alternative universe -- if it is an alternative.
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
>                        team hp260lx


HP260LX ?

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>
> What can you tell me about the special nature of the HP-LX's video
> graphics mode?  How can I get software like Autocad to use this mode, or
> is there some way to get the video to emulate a CGA or EGA screen?
The HP-LX video mode is CGA, pure and simple, AFAIK. Tho' it displays
only 4 colours, this seems to be invisible to the software.

Ie any CGA program will run perfectly well; you just might not be able
to distinguish all the colours.

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Michelle Honey wrote:

> HP260LX ?


A fictitious piece of equipment posted about a while back.  The true
successor to the 200LX.
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Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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The 200's built-in display is essentially a "Super CGA" -- it combines all
the functions of CGA except light pen support and external outputs, but
adds its own special features.

To any normal program, the 200 has a CGA card.  It runs in 640x200x2
mode or 320x200x4 mode, along with some straight text modes.  The
greyscales in 4 color mode and color text modes are simulated by flipping
the pixels on and off very quickly -- this is rarely noticeable except in
bright light and under flourescents.  The bit-flipping is done in hardware
and is of no concern to the programmer.  So it's just CGA.

The interesting part comes in with HP's extensions.  For one thing, there's
a nifty blinking hardware graphics cursor.  This is what you see flashing in
sysman applications.  Remember the last time you loaded _Decline and Fall
of the Roman Empire_ into Memo and tried to search for "peace"?  The
hourglass showed up but the cursor kept flashing.  This is a funtion unique
to the 200's display subsystem.

Another part is their ROM BIOS video interrupt (INT 10h) extensions.
There's a boatload of neat routines they added to speed up sysman and
their applications.  Anything from box drawing to the full sysman-style GUI
is at your fingertips (providing you know where the ISR's are.)  I have a
huge interrupt list (I don't remember where I got it) that lists these
routines.
NO I CAN'T MAIL IT AS AN ATTACHMENT SO DON'T ASK.  It's
5 megs, people! :)  Well, anyway, I'll dig through that list and extract the
interesting 95/100/200 interrupts and send them someplace (maybe SUPER)
so all you programmers can have them.

Have fun. . .

BTW it's amazing to me that I can still be an active part of this list even
though
I don't actually have a 200 anymore.  Maybe it was a bigger piece of me than
I thought -- I know it through and through even though I haven't seen one
for
nearly a month.  Well, you know HP, always making their products and
indispensable
(and very expensive) part of our lives.

Well, I'm done talking now, time to go to bed... ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
- Dave Barry, "Why Humor is Funny"

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: What can you tell me about the special nature of the HP-LX's video
: graphics mode?  How can I get software like Autocad to use this mode, or
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Gregg,
you can not prevent the hinge crack by smooth operating. You can only have a delay of its development.
The only technique working is "not to open it", but then you will not be able to  work. Another possibility is
to dimantle it and to carry out a reconstruction of the hinge.
Sorry to say but it's a weak point of your little machine !

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     Phil,

     I'm a new owener to the 200LX and want to avoid this hinge crack.
     Could you please explain your closing procedure again, I'm not able to
     replicate it.


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Sorry for two emails selling stuff, but...

Yesterday I said:

>>I've just sold my 200LX...

... well, my buyer has now backed down :-(

So, is anyone interested in buying the following (in the UK/Europe if
poss):

- HP 200 LX 4 MB
- Excellent condition
- About 6 months old
- Original box and manuals

Any offers please to: Lee@pemail.net (my home address - rather than reply
to this message)

Also, I'm selling my Pace Microlin 14,400 pocket modem (runs off 2xAA
batteries) - again, if anyone is interested contact me at Lee@pemail.net

Cheers,
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>What can you tell me about the special nature of the HP-LX's video
>graphics mode?  How can I get software like Autocad to use this mode, or
>is there some way to get the video to emulate a CGA or EGA screen?

You can use any software provided it supports CGA text or graphics modes.
This means 80x25 text, 640x200 graphics (monochrome), and 320x200 graphics
(four shades of gray). I remember to have read something about a HP95LX
compatible graphics mode in the developer's guide, but it's for sure
non-standard.

Regards. Nacho.

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> From: B. Wills <btw@VNET.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Word 5.5 on 200lx
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November 1997 03:20
>
> Does anyone have MS Word 5.5 running on a 200LX?  Would it be too
> gargantuan to run on a 1 meg unit?  How much disk space does it
> require?
>
> If it's too big, which version of Word should I look for?
>
> Benson

I use Word for Dos version 5.0 (which I got from Trixter's Abandoware
site!) 5.0 works better on the palmtop than 5.5, which uses too much color
and silly drop-shadows on pop-up dialogs. 5.0 uses a command menu quite
like lotus 123, so it's easy to get comfortable.
It is about I.4-1.9 meg with the spell-check and a few printer
drivers and the help file, so you could skinny it down from there. If you
set up the video driver as detailed in the vid file, you can have print
preview! I prefer it over WP5.1 'cos that just takes too much room and I
don't like the interface.

As I believe in abandonware (especially if it came from the MS camp!) I
hope you find a copy or if you have trouble, email me and we may be able to
sort something out...

Take care.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Ian,
just a quickie, are you using emm200 or tremm?  The reason I ask is
that I had a note on my emm200 page saying that it hung windows 3.0
which must have been my finding at the time and I was wondering if you
had found any different.

Thanks
Murray
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What is the location of this site?

--- On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:40:16 +1300  David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:

>I use Word for Dos version 5.0 (which I got from Trixter's Abandoware
>site!)

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Please ignore previous message, found site.

--- On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:27:03 -0500  mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:

>What is the location of this site?
>
>--- On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:40:16 +1300  David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:
>
>>I use Word for Dos version 5.0 (which I got from Trixter's Abandoware
>>site!)
>
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        It is not obvious to me that the law NEEDS changing. Someone seems
to be waging a FUD Ý= Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt¨ campaign to obscure
the legal issues.

        The chief on in need of clarification, to me, is whether the
existence of a "recent, e.g. Windows" version of something, qualifies as
the "thing" Ýspecifically an ancient DOS version¨ being "available" as
opposed to abandoned under CURRENT law. If it is "unavailable," then it is
already legal to copy it, regardless of who holds copyrights, until the
copyright holder chooses to make it "available" again.

        The above applies to copyright law only, and does not cover issues
relating to patent protection, e.g. for the R.S.A. encryption algorithm.

        The problem with copyright law, is that it is based on ARTISTIC
criteria, and functional criteria do not in principle apply. I.e. it is
NOT in principle obvious whether the availability of a Windows version,
might make the "artistic content" of the original DOS version still
available, even though the Windows version will not run on one's system.

        The issues are fuzzy enough, and I have no definitive answers,
without anyone running a FUD campaign.
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Subject:      Re: Hinge Crack

In previous discussion about the hinge crack there were several referrals
to a picture of the typical hinch crack. Can someone please tell me where
on the net I can find such a picture?

Tx for your help.

Thomas

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On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 21:44:02 -0800
Philip Seyer <pseyer@best.com> wrote:

> I don't understand.
>
> Do you mean disable the Newton driver and switch to a cable connected
> to a host computer when you want to do file transfers?
>
> That's what I do now.
> What's the difference?

As far as I know, some users reported that they have problems with Filer
App on System Manager, although it works fine if you work on DOS or if
your exit SysMgr and restart it.

According to the document the author has made improvement to remove this
limitation.


Toshiki Sasabe
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  work: toshiki.sasabe@digital.com

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I charged my new pair of NiMH batteries for 12 hours last night. I let
them go throught the 6 hours of fast charging and then restarted it for
another 6 hours of fast charging. I noticed that unlike the NiCd
batteries I was previously using the voltage as reported by Buddy never
went over 2.81 volts. Is this typical of NiMH batteries? The batteries
I'm using are 1200mAH which were purchased at Batteries Plus.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Hi folks-

For those interested in the 100/200LX graphics functions.  I found this
summary of the palmtop's int 5Fh routines.  It was either on the
previous palmtop list or comp.sys.palmtops (before it was assimilated
by the borg).  ÝNow if Ian or anybody has the blinking graphic-mode
cursor info available...¨
---------------------

--------b-5F00-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET VIDEO MODE
=09AH =3D 00h
=09AL =3D video mode
=09    03h text,CGA color (100LX/200LX)
=09    06h 640x200 CGA graphics (100LX/200LX)
=09    07h text, system manager compliant
=09    20h 240x128 mono graphics, system manager compliant
=09    87h text, not system manager compliant
=09    A0h 240x128 mono graphics, not system manager compliant
Notes:=09the defaults after setting the mode to graphics are (0,0) logical =

=09  origin, full-screen clip region, (0,0) pen location, pen color=
 1,
=09  pixel replacement FORCE, line type and fill mask all bits set
=09modes 03h and 06h can also be set with the standard INT 10/AH=3D00h
SeeAlso: INT 0F"HP 95LX",INT 10/AH=3D00h,INT 15/AX=3D4DD4h
--------b-5F01-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET FILL MASK
=09AH =3D 01h
=09ES:DI -> 8-byte fill mask
Note:=09the fill mask represents an 8x8 pixel box and is repeated as=
 necessary
=09  when drawing filled rectangles; it is always aligned with the byte
=09  boundaries of video memory, regardless of the actual boundaries=
 of
=09  the rectangle
SeeAlso: AH=3D02h
--------b-5F02-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - GET CURRENT GRAPHICS=
 INFO
=09AH =3D 02h
=09ES:DI -> graphics info record (see #2511)
Return: DX:AX -> filled graphics info record (for return to high-level=
 langs)

Format of HP 95LX graphics info record:
Offset=09Size=09Description=09(Table 2511)
 00h=09BYTE=09current video mode
 01h=09BYTE=09default video mode
 02h=09WORD=09display width in pixels
 04h=09WORD=09display height in pixels
 06h=09WORD=09current pen column
 08h=09WORD=09current pen row
 0Ah=09WORD=09current line type
 0Ch=09WORD=09current replacement rule
 0Eh=09WORD=09current pen color
 10h=09WORD=09current leftmost column of clip region
 12h=09WORD=09current rightmost column of clip region
 14h=09WORD=09current topmost row of clip region
 16h=09WORD=09current bottommost row of clip region
 18h=09WORD=09current column of logical origin
 1Ah=09WORD=09current row of logical origin
 1Ch  8 BYTEs=09current fill mask
--------b-5F03-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET LOGICAL ORIGIN
=09AH =3D 03h
=09CX =3D column
=09DX =3D row
SeeAlso: AH=3D04h
--------b-5F04-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET CLIP REGION
=09AH =3D 04h
=09CX =3D left-most column
=09DX =3D top-most row
=09SI =3D right-most column
=09DI =3D bottom-most row
SeeAlso: AH=3D03h
--------b-5F05-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - DRAW RECTANGLE
=09AH =3D 05h
=09AL =3D fill type
=09    00h outline, using current line type and color
=09    01h solid, using current color
=09    02h pattern, using current fill mask and color
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of other corner of rectangle
Note:=09the rectangle is drawn starting at the current pen position
SeeAlso: AH=3D01h,AH=3D06h,AH=3D07h
--------b-5F06-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - DRAW LINE
=09AH =3D 06h
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of end point
Note:=09the line is drawn starting at the current pen position
SeeAlso: AH=3D05h,AH=3D07h
--------b-5F07-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - PLOT POINT
=09AH =3D 07h
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of point
Note:=09also sets pen position to the specified point
SeeAlso: AH=3D06h,AH=3D08h,AH=3D0Ch
--------b-5F08-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - MOVE PEN
=09AH =3D 08h
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of new pen position
SeeAlso: AH=3D07h,AH=3D09h
--------b-5F09-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET PEN COLOR
=09AH =3D 09h
=09AL =3D new color (00h =3D white, 01h =3D black)
SeeAlso: AH=3D08h,AH=3D0Ah,AH=3D0Bh
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PR
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Hi folks-

Here is the rest of the graphics info.  The listserver rejected the
original post for going over 200 lines...

--------b-5F0A-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET REPLACEMENT RULE
=09AH =3D 0Ah
=09AL =3D new replacement rule
=09    00h force
=09    01h AND
=09    02h OR
=09    03h XOR
=09    ---100LX/200LX---
=09    04h InvForce
=09    05h InvAND
=09    06h=09InvOR
=09    07h InvXOR
=09    08h Txt
SeeAlso: AH=3D01h,AH=3D09h,AH=3D0Bh
--------b-5F0B-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET LINE TYPE
=09AH =3D 0Bh
=09CX =3D new line type
Note:=09the line type specifies 16 bits which are repeated over and=
 over while
=09  drawing the pixels of a line
SeeAlso: AH=3D09h,AH=3D0Ah
--------b-5F0C-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - GET PIXEL
=09AH =3D 0Ch
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of pixel to read
Return: AX =3D pixel color
SeeAlso: AH=3D07h
--------b-5F0D-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - GET IMAGE
=09AH =3D 0Dh
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of first corner
=09BP,SI =3D row,column of second corner
=09ES:DI -> image buffer (see #2512)
Note:=09the specified corners are included in the saved image
SeeAlso: AH=3D0Eh

Format of HP 95LX image buffer:
Offset=09Size=09Description=09(Table 2512)
 00h=09WORD=09number of planes (always 01h on HP 95LX)
 02h=09WORD=09number of bits/pixel (always 01h on HP 95LX)
 04h=09WORD=09image width in pixels
 06h=09WORD=09image height in pixels
 08h  N BYTEs=09image data
=09=09requires (WIDTH+7)/8 * HEIGHT bytes
--------b-5F0E-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - PUT IMAGE
=09AH =3D 0Eh
=09AL =3D replacement rule (see #2513)
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of top left corner
=09ES:DI -> image buffer (see #2512)
Note:=09if the specified image does not fit completely on the screen,=
 this call
=09  does nothing
SeeAlso: AH=3D0Dh

Bitfields for replacement rule:
Bit(s)=09Description=09(Table 2513)
 2=09invert image before applying rule
 1-0=09function (00 force, 01 AND, 10 OR, 11 XOR)
--------b-5F0F-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 95LX/100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - WRITE TEXT
=09AH =3D 0Fh
=09AL =3D rotate flag (if nonzero, rotate 90 degrees counter-clockwise)
=09DX,CX =3D row,column of first character's top left corner
=09ES:DI -> ASCIZ text
--------b-5F10-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - GET FONT POINTER
=09AH =3D 10h
=09CX =3D font size of desired font
=09    0808h  8x8=09small  (80x25 text)
=09    0A0Bh 11x10 medium (64x18 text)
=09    100Ch 12x16 large  (40x16 text)
Return: DX:AX -> ptr to font or 0000h:fontID# if built-in font
SeeAlso: AH=3D11h
--------b-5F11-------------------------------
INT 5F - HP 100LX/200LX GRAPHICS PRIMITIVES - SET CURRENT FONT
=09AH =3D 11h
=09ES:DI -> ptr to font or 0000h:fontID# for built-in font
Note:=09this function should be called immediately after AH=3D10h with=
 the
=09  pointer supplied by that call
SeeAlso: AH=3D10h
--------------------

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:48:41 -0700
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Those who will pay for software want the new Windows version.  That comes from
sales.  I meant that if it were free, many people would opt for the DOS
version, warts and all, if they didn't need support for newer printers,
multitasking, and so forth.  There is also the cost of supporting the product.
 And since DOS expertise is disappearing (if it was ever there) it would be
more difficult to support.  We flat out DON'T WANT to support it, which means
the customers who do want the DOS product, are going to charged tech support
fees that reflect that.  (Too high to pay.)

-----Original Message-----
From:   Tim Phipps ÝSMTP:Tim_Phipps@HP.COM¨
Sent:   Tuesday, November 04, 1997 2:24 AM
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Subject:        Re: ÝFLUFF¨ Abandonware: DENIED!

> I work for a company that produces software.  Our biggest competitor right
now
> is our old DOS version.  If everyone decided it is now free, because we don't
> sell it, a lot of people would settle for the DOS product, since it is FREE.
>  This would hurt sales of our Windows 95/NT version.

"A lot of people would settle for the DOS product": these are your customers,
why not sell the DOS version (profitably)?  This whole abandonware thing got
started because of companies deciding that their customers did not want DOS
programs but ONLY the latest trendy stuff.  I think those companies are wrong.
Sell both, same price and direct mail order only for DOS if you think volumes
are going to be low, charge for support too.

Cheers,
Tim Phipps.
Obviously not speaking for Hewlett-Packard.

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PCMCIA GSM Card for Nokia 2110. Tested with HPLX series works
fine with software like QFAX and WWW/LX.

199 USD.

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FS: OmniGo 700LX - communicator for use with
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790 USD

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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Jeff wrote:

> I charged my new pair of NiMH batteries for 12 hours last night. I let
> them go throught the 6 hours of fast charging and then restarted it for
> another 6 hours of fast charging. I noticed that unlike the NiCd
> batteries I was previously using the voltage as reported by Buddy never
> went over 2.81 volts. Is this typical of NiMH batteries? The batteries
> I'm using are 1200mAH which were purchased at Batteries Plus.

Sounds about right. My 1300mAh NiMH never goes over 2.87-2.88 whereas my
1100mAh NiCds charged to over 3.?.

- Longden

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The software we produce runs from $995.00 to $4,995.00, and requires a lot of
system resources in DOS or Windows.  It drives  large-format printers (24"
width and up) and accepts color graphic image files in various formats, most of
which are one to a hundred megabytes, with the average being 35 meg.  I was
just using it as an example.  I didn't mean to imply that it would run on a
palmtop.  One reason for upgrading to a Windows version is speed of processing,
especially on newer Pentium systems..  If the DOS software were free, it would
be cheaper to use a cheap machine and run second copy than to buy a new faster
version.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent:   Tuesday, November 04, 1997 10:08 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: ÝFLUFF¨ Abandonware: DENIED!

Bryan Pearson wrote:

<<...Our biggest competitor right now is our old DOS version.  If everyone
decided it is now free, because we don't sell it, a lot of people would
settle for the DOS product, since it is FREE. >>

How can a product that isn't even available, either over or under the
counter, compete with the only version available?  I don't understand.
Unless it is already FREE.

<< This would hurt sales of our Windows 95/NT version. >>

Well, since I can't run NT on my palmtop, I guess I won't use either of
your products.  And I guess I will never learn how great a program it is,
and won't wanna upgrade to the NT version on my desktop.

Ah, well.  The palmtop market is small. No big loss, right?  Let me just
add: People who use DOS over a more enhanced 95/NT version are probably
doing so because they don't have a choice--They can't run NT!!!  I really
can't believe most users are saying, "Well the six-year old DOS version is
on the web for FREE, whilst the sparkling new NT version with documents
costs $49.99.  Guess I'm gonna run the DOS version on my 256 MB Pent II."

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Sounds okay. My brandnew NiMH (1300mAh) stopped at 2.89 volts after 12h fast
charging (6 +6)

Jens
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Jeff wrote:
>
> > I charged my new pair of NiMH batteries for 12 hours last night. I let
> > them go throught the 6 hours of fast charging and then restarted it for
> > another 6 hours of fast charging. I noticed that unlike the NiCd
> > batteries I was previously using the voltage as reported by Buddy never
> > went over 2.81 volts. Is this typical of NiMH batteries? The batteries
> > I'm using are 1200mAH which were purchased at Batteries Plus.
>
> Sounds about right. My 1300mAh NiMH never goes over 2.87-2.88 whereas my
> 1100mAh NiCds charged to over 3.?.
>
> - Longden
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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:36:05 -0600
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At 10:05 PM 10/31/97 -1000, you wrote:
>I use a 17 point font (fpab0017.vfn) which I think I got from Gilles Kohl
>(100114.3146@compuserve.com), the author of VR.  It makes VR easy to read
>--I've even caught up on reading the Classics, which I avoided in college.
>If you would like a copy of the font, let me know and I'll send it.

Please send me a copy of the 17 point font.  Thanks.

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At 08:57 PM 10/29/97 -0800, childers wrote:
>Based on David Sargent's glowing review, and the fact it was compatible
with my
>existing cellullar phone, I purchased a Simple Technologies 33.6
Communicator.
>It works great in my 4Mb, SingleSpeed 200LX....

I have never used a cellular modem with 200lx.  Does it require any special
drivers or software?  If so, is such software provided with Simple modem?

Thanks for your reply.
Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:45:56 -0600
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At 07:29 AM 11/5/97 -0500, mdstockr wrote:

>Please ignore previous message, found site.
>
>--- On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:27:03 -0500  mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
wrote:
>
>>What is the location of this site?
Trixter's Abandoware site!)

Please post the URL for the above site or email me direct.

Thanks very much.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:08:22 -0800
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The SimpleTech modem doesn't come with any cellular drivers... but when you
purchase the cable for your particular cell phone, the phone does come with
a disk.  You NEED a Windows machine with a PCMCIA slot to download the
necessary driver for your phone to the EEPROM of the modem.  It's too bad
that SimpleTech shipped the cable with Windows programming software only...
I had to load the software on my Omnibook 425 to get the card programmed
for use with my Ericsson cell phone.  Once I did that... the card worked
great in the 200LX, land-line or cellular.  However, no programming is
needed if you choose to run the modem in a land-line only configuration.

Bill



>I have never used a cellular modem with 200lx.  Does it require any special
>drivers or software?  If so, is such software provided with Simple modem?
>
>Thanks for your reply.
>Jeff
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The abandonware site is down.

--- On Wed, 05 Nov 1997 10:45:56 -0600  "Jeffrey N. MacDowell" <jmacdowell@usa.net> wrote:

>At 07:29 AM 11/5/97 -0500, mdstockr wrote:
>
>>Please ignore previous message, found site.
>>
>>--- On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:27:03 -0500  mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>>What is the location of this site?
>Trixter's Abandoware site!)
>
>Please post the URL for the above site or email me direct.
>
>Thanks very much.
>

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           11/5/97 1:09:40 PM EST
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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:32:30 -0500
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I am re-posting some notes I posted to the list a few weeks ago as it see=
ms
that some people missed it and it may be relevant to some of the question=
s
currently being asked.

----------Original Message -----------
Following on from the current thread relating to the hinge crack problem,=

and having found the first faint signs of the crack on my 11 month old
palmtop, I decided to dismantle my palmtop to see if I could add any
strengthening to prevent further cracking. =


Using David Sargeants excellent instructions on how to dismantle a 200LX,=

and remembering several posts relating to dismantly, and the problems wit=
h
the right side hinge (don't dismantle it) I found that I could not gain
sufficient access to provide any support - the case does not come apart f=
ar
enough to access the corner due to the right hinge assembly.

I did however note that there is a screw boss on the interior if the lid
near to the crack, and I suspect that this provides a strong section to t=
he
lid in that vicinity, thus forcing all the stresses to occur at the base =
of
the boss - hence the crack. I also noted that the plastic appears to be
under most stress when closing the lid, hence the crack appears on the
outside first. =


All I could do was apply a little light lubricating oil to the right hing=
e
assembly from the inside to reduce the friction offered by the hinge and
hence reduce the forces on the plastic (access from the outside after the=

hinge cap is removed will probably work also). This appears to have worke=
d
well, as the lid now closes much easier and the plastic does not bend und=
er
the stress of closing. My hinge stiffness rating was probably a 5 before,=

and is now a 2.

I hope this provides a little  help to those in the same situation.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:15:12 -0600
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If the hardware weren't the same as a full size PC, you couldn't run standard
programs, so any book will do. The following source code is on Simtel
(oak.oakland.edu).
  pc_8250.zip   B   36961  910206  Serial port rtns. & VT100 emul. (C src only)
  pcl4c60.zip   B  110528  961113  Serial communications library for C/C++

Some of it may be specific to this C compiler
  pcc12c.zip    B  175811  890620  Personal C compiler. Fully functional, C WARE

Miguel Angel wrote:

> Hi boys:
>   I come back with ,maybe ,easy questions:
>    Does anybody know how to get control over the serial port via interrupts?
> Is there any possibility to get complete information of the HARDWARE, BIOS
> interrupts, memory map of the HP-200LX?
>   Do you know about any source code to control a modem on the Palmtop? I'm
> "making" myself a communication protocol and I need to use it, and I Know
> only a little HAYES commands but I don't know how to control the modem errors?
>
> Miguel
>



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If the hardware weren't the same as a full size PC, you couldn't run standard
<BR>programs, so any book will do. The following source code is on Simtel
<BR>(oak.oakland.edu).
<BR>&nbsp; pc_8250.zip&nbsp;&nbsp; B&nbsp;&nbsp; 36961&nbsp; 910206&nbsp;
Serial port rtns. &amp; VT100 emul. (C src only)
<BR>&nbsp; pcl4c60.zip&nbsp;&nbsp; B&nbsp; 110528&nbsp; 961113&nbsp; Serial
communications library for C/C++

<P>Some of it may be specific to this C compiler
<BR>&nbsp; pcc12c.zip&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; B&nbsp; 175811&nbsp; 890620&nbsp;
Personal C compiler. Fully functional, C WARE

<P>Miguel Angel wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi boys:
<BR>&nbsp; I come back with ,maybe ,easy questions:
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anybody know how to get control over the serial port
via interrupts?
<BR>Is there any possibility to get complete information of the HARDWARE,
BIOS
<BR>interrupts, memory map of the HP-200LX?
<BR>&nbsp; Do you know about any source code to control a modem on the
Palmtop? I'm
<BR>"making" myself a communication protocol and I need to use it, and
I Know
<BR>only a little HAYES commands but I don't know how to control the modem
errors?

<P>Miguel
<BR><A HREF="HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml"></A>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:44:35 +0000
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Hi boys and GIRLS:

        Is easy to suppress any application provided in the Application
Manager?
I'm  refering to : Lotus, cc:Mail, world clock, etc. I know what implies,
but I'm not going to use them, neither the final users of the application
I'm developing. Will I damage something important for the correct working of
my palmtop?
        I could use a flash memory card but the cost of the equipment is an
important point to consider it will be used by ill people with no much
resources. I'm just using a modem card, so if I use a flash memory card
it'll increase the price. Well, if at last the card is essential they will
have to buy it but if I could avoid it.

Bye (also for you Marta)

Miguel

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:30:30 PST
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I am sorry if some of you rushed off to try to find this site, I discover=
ed it and downloaded Word 5.0 and Windows 3.0 just days before the jack-b=
ooted nazis came bursting through the door. I am a firm believer in aband=
onware/unsupported software/freeware/public domain and setup "so-called" =
antique and tossed away computers for people who are not rich enough to =
follow the carrot along the bleeding edge of the techno-race.

Some of my friends/clients/customers are doing every part of their busine=
ss and private computing on products that would get you a derogatory snif=
f if you mentioned them in the showroom of the latest and greatest tetrah=
ertz monsters.

I think there is enough interest to setup some kind of "Abandonware" site=
, but one that has firewalls to ensure the people that actually get downl=
oad acces have signed waivers and pleged they agree with and abide with =
the concept of this kind of sharing.

I think of it like a book out of print, you have approached the publisher=
, they say no, you try through the internet to find a copy to buy but hav=
e no luck. If you can't give your money to anybody to get what you want, =
who has a problem with copying a version that a friend owns?

With books, the time before it becomes public domain used to be 50 years =
from the death of the author, it was recently raised to 70 years!

Take care.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:38:26 -0600
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You can remove the Icons from the App manager (email me direct, I'll
explain how) but you can not remove the actual applications from the
palmtop's ROM.  You will not get any additional memory space in your
palmtop by removing the Icons from the App manager, however you can
"install" other applications using the spaces left unused by Icon
removal.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Miguel AngelÝSMTP:marecio@TORO.TEB.UPM.ES¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, November 05, 1997 2:44 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Delete "HP applications" on HP-200LX
>
>Hi boys and GIRLS:
>
>        Is easy to suppress any application provided in the Application
>Manager?
>

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:39:06 +0900
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Subject:      ReÝ2¨: Hinge Crack
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     Try:

     http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/crack.htm

     It has a lot of detailed pictures and explanations.

     Sincerely,
     Sachio


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Subject: Re: Hinge Crack
Author:  "Dr. Thomas W. Diefenbach" <diefen@EMIRATES.NET.AE> at IJKKSMTP
Date:    97/11/05 17:25


In previous discussion about the hinge crack there were several referrals
to a picture of the typical hinch crack. Can someone please tell me where
on the net I can find such a picture?

Tx for your help.

Thomas

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:07:10 -0600
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I am considering switching to MaxDos from Software Carousel since I am out
of disk space and the problem described below is bothersome.

I use a Doublespeed/4Mb 200lx w/Software Carousel.  Primary applications
are all System Mgr apps except Note Taker in one SC session, Flexpad in
second session, and acCIS on an irregular basis in a third session of a EXP
1414LXM/4Meg Modem.  I continually have problems with my Phone Book
randomly selecting files or not allowing numbers to be entered.  If I quit
the application and begin again, it works for a little while but the
problem reappears sooner or later.    From the readme docs it appears only
one DOS program (i.e. Flexpad) can be open at any one time.

Has anyone made this switch?  Any comments or comparisons would be greatly
appreciated.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:20:45 -0600
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Phil,

If you are distributing a vertical market application where the user will
be purchasing new hardware you might want to look at the 1000cx. Its
basically a 200lx with all the builtin applications (except DOS 5.x)
removed. HP Only sells them in quantity however.

Dan

----------
> From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Delete "HP applications" on HP-200LX
> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 3:38 PM
>
> You can remove the Icons from the App manager (email me direct, I'll
> explain how) but you can not remove the actual applications from the
> palmtop's ROM.  You will not get any additional memory space in your
> palmtop by removing the Icons from the App manager, however you can
> "install" other applications using the spaces left unused by Icon
> removal.
>
> Phil
>
> >----------
> >From:  Miguel AngelÝSMTP:marecio@TORO.TEB.UPM.ES¨
> >Sent:  Wednesday, November 05, 1997 2:44 PM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       Delete "HP applications" on HP-200LX
> >
> >Hi boys and GIRLS:
> >
> >        Is easy to suppress any application provided in the Application
> >Manager?
> >
>
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Jeffrey N. MacDowell wrote:
>
> I am considering switching to MaxDos from Software Carousel since I am out
> of disk space and the problem described below is bothersome.
>
> I use a Doublespeed/4Mb 200lx w/Software Carousel.  Primary applications
> are all System Mgr apps except Note Taker in one SC session, Flexpad in
> second session, and acCIS on an irregular basis in a third session of a EXP
> 1414LXM/4Meg Modem.  I continually have problems with my Phone Book
> randomly selecting files or not allowing numbers to be entered.  If I quit
> the application and begin again, it works for a little while but the
> problem reappears sooner or later.    From the readme docs it appears only
> one DOS program (i.e. Flexpad) can be open at any one time.
>
> Has anyone made this switch?  Any comments or comparisons would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
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Jeffrey,

I have a 5M 200LX running software carousel.  I have the system manager
apps in one session, dos games in another session (running under HDM)
and WWW/LX and Post/LX running in a third session (also under HDM) - all
on the C drive.  I have had no problems, other than file manager is
garbled whenever I switch back to it if I leave it open after switching
to sessions 2 or 3 and then back.  If I subsequently close it and reopen
it, everything is fine.  I am very pleased with software carousel.  I
could not interpret the instructions for MaxDOS well enough to get it
working - they appear to be a poor translation from the Japanese.

Regards,
Jim

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Date:         Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:45:44 PST
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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: For those interested in the 100/200LX graphics functions.  I found this
: summary of the palmtop's int 5Fh routines.  It was either on the
: previous palmtop list or comp.sys.palmtops (before it was assimilated
: by the borg).  ÝNow if Ian or anybody has the blinking graphic-mode
: cursor info available...¨

Hmmm... don't have that one.  It looks like your entries are straight
from Ralf Brown's Interrupts List.  I have version 47, I don't know
which one those came from.  That's where I found all the good stuff
about interrupts from too.  There's a wealth of other interrupt information
too, including weird stuff like the lower-than-low keyboard interrupt
(recall that the 200 has a software keyboard controller), a high memory
allocation/deallocation interrupt, and probably 10 pages worth of info
on the 95LX's sysman.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"When you tell vicious racist jokes, you should first announce
that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
- Dave Barry, "Why Humor is Funny"

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:47:28 +1000
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   Hello,

   I have a set of NICAD 1000mah batteries.  On the battery, the
   charging details are:
   Standard Charge:  15 hours at 100mA
   Rapid Charge:      6 hours as 250mA

   I also have a very old (_10 years old) NICAD charger.  The
   charge rate is 45mA.

   . Should I use this charger on these batteries?
   . What adverse sideaffects would using the charger have?
   . How long should I charge for using this charger?
   . Will the batteries ever reach full charge?
   . Any recommendations for charging these batteries in the
   HPLX, Time, charge rate?
   . Should I get ABC/LX?
   . Does ABC/LX handle these batteries better than the HPLX
   normally?


   TIA

   David Eggins
   Canberra, Australia
   davee@iname.com

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:31:57 +1300
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Subject:      Re: ÝTECH¨ Cellular Modem and 200LX...
Comments: cc: childers@GARLIC.COM

Keep in mind: some brands need to be re-programmed every time you want to
switch between landline and a cellular connection. Ask your supplier!

   >The SimpleTech modem doesn't come with any cellular drivers... but
   >when you purchase the cable for your particular cell phone, the
   >phone does come with a disk.  You NEED a Windows machine with a
   >PCMCIA slot to download the necessary driver for your phone to the
   >EEPROM of the modem.  It's too bad that SimpleTech shipped the
   >cable with Windows programming software only... I had to load the
   >software on my Omnibook 425 to get the card programmed for use with
   >my Ericsson cell phone.  Once I did that... the card worked great
   >in the 200LX, land-line or cellular.  However, no programming is
   >needed if you choose to run the modem in a land-line only
   >configuration. Bill
   >>I have never used a cellular modem with 200lx.  Does it require
   >>any special drivers or software?  If so, is such software provided
   >with Simple modem? >
   >>Thanks for your reply.
   >>Jeff
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Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:51:15 +0800
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Hi,

But I guess you have not tried the EXP Low Power Modem and the Visual CE.
Since if you do, you will be very happy that you still are using your HP
200LX!!!

Jorgen

>Well, I didn't think much good was going to come out of the hyped-up WinCE
>market, but I opened my new Mobile Planet catalog and was proved wrong.
>
>Examples:
>
>EXP No Power (p. 14): a PCMCIA 33.6 cellular-ready modem with a compact
>external battery pack
>
>Socket Low Power Ethernet card (p. 14): although they claim it's only
>compatible with WinCE machines, who knows?
>
>Low cost flash memory (p. 15), including SunDisk compact flash with free
>Type II adapter
>
>In addition, I notice that some WinCE machines (Sharp's on p. 10) have
>speed keys to load apps which look similar to those on the 200LX.  Also,
>there are increasing numbers of apps available for the WinCE machines on
>p. 16 (even a Quicken lookalike and a database program called Visual CE)
>and, as has been discussed here, a DOS emulator is in the works.
>
>This is just an observation, and is not meant to incur the wrath of my
>fellow 200LX supporters.
>- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
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>I have no connection with the pgm or the author, just thought ya'll
>might like to try something new on your LX's!  A WWW search for
>"earthwatch" should turn up some convenient sources.

I search gave me 1000's of sites related to "earthwatch", so please be more
specific (where did you find the program?).

Jorgen

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Hi,

I have 3 HP 200LX and another 7 in my office. They are manufactured 94- 97
and as far as I can see there is no crack in any of them. Since I have now
seen so many messages about this problem I would like to check if I am
really that lucky- no cracks at all...????

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:37:48 -0500
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Anyone using the regular version of Software Carousel - not the palmtop
version?

Is it as usefull?

Phil Godden

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:03:54 -0800
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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Phil Godden wrote:

> Anyone using the regular version of Software Carousel - not the palmtop
> version?

I didn't use it (tho I have it), but it seems several posters had
complained of problems (I forget the details) about a year back. The
palmtop version supports the LX's blue application keys and was supposed
to be a better match to the LX.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:15:31 -0800
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Subject:      Re: MaxDos vs. Software Carousel
Comments: To: "Jeffrey N. MacDowell" <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Jeffrey N. MacDowell wrote:

> I am considering switching to MaxDos from Software Carousel since I am out
> of disk space and the problem described below is bothersome.
>
> I use a Doublespeed/4Mb 200lx w/Software Carousel.  Primary applications
> are all System Mgr apps except Note Taker in one SC session, Flexpad in
> second session, and acCIS on an irregular basis in a third session of a EXP
> 1414LXM/4Meg Modem.  I continually have problems with my Phone Book
> randomly selecting files or not allowing numbers to be entered.  If I quit
> the application and begin again, it works for a little while but the
> problem reappears sooner or later.    From the readme docs it appears only
> one DOS program (i.e. Flexpad) can be open at any one time.
>
> Has anyone made this switch?  Any comments or comparisons would be greatly
> appreciated.

I used SC/palmtop for awhile with a 2x/4mb LX. IMHO, it was more bother
than it was worth and I switched to the simpler MaxDOS after awhile.

SC was advertised as practically bullet-proof and several users asserted
that they never locked up using it, but that wasn't my experience. The
most troubling thing was the occasional corrupted data file that I never
seemed to get before (or after) SC. Occurrences were infrequent enough to
make it difficult to pin down the cause, especially when you're juggling 4
500k sessions around.

However, I don't recall ever having a problem running more than 1 DOS
session, tho there was a problem when the DOS session ran the DOSKEY
command during its bootup.

I sold my copy of SC.

- Longden

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Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

> I search gave me 1000's of sites related to "earthwatch", so please=
 be
> more specific (where did you find the program?).

Hi Jorgen & group-

I'm not the original poster of the "Earthwatch" message, but found this
thru SHAREWARE.COM.  Works very nicely, but you should have CGAHLP
loaded to make the text more visible.  I'm still playing around with
the settings for CGAHLP.

PR
---------

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:32:13 -0500
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I am wondering if anyone leeched EVERYTHING off the site. I would like to get some
stuff for myself. Anyone, do email me on this. Thanks.
... PATH=C:\DOS;C:\DOS\RUN;C:\WIN\CRASH\DOS;C:\ME\DEL\WIN

PGP Public Key Fingerprint = E3 90 4F AB 37 A0 33 F4  56 F1 91 36 9A C9 A2 39

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:00:36 -0800
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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, David Eggins wrote:

>    I have a set of NICAD 1000mah batteries.

<snipped many questions about an external charger of which I know zilch>

>    . Should I get ABC/LX?

IMO, yes. This depends on whether you can deal with the cost of the
software ($30 to baby your $10 batteries, and make life a little easier
for you). The have a fully working demo version on the web at:
        http://www.dasoft.com/ABC/abc.html

It disables itself after awhile (usually when you decide you need it <g>)

>    . Does ABC/LX handle these batteries better than the HPLX
>    normally?

Another yes. It completely automates the charging process...you only have
to remember to plug in the AC once in a while. Your life doesn't revolve
around your recharging cycle so much after that.

- Longden

PS. I'm not affiliated with DASOFT (the makers of ABC/LX), but I swear
that if I make another plug for them, they should send me a paycheck<g>!

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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> But I guess you have not tried the EXP Low Power Modem and the Visual CE.
> Since if you do, you will be very happy that you still are using your HP
> 200LX!!!

Jorgen, can you elaborate on that?

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:05:15 -0800
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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> >I have no connection with the pgm or the author, just thought ya'll
> >might like to try something new on your LX's!  A WWW search for
> >"earthwatch" should turn up some convenient sources.
>
> I search gave me 1000's of sites related to "earthwatch", so please be more
> specific (where did you find the program?).

I found it at http://www.shareware.com. Search for "earthwatch".

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:10:00 -0500
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Subject:      maxdos
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        I recently downloaded MAXDOS and am trying to get it to work for
me,in my double-speed 8meg 200lx.  I have my autoexec.bat setup
according to the docs, i.e.:

maxdos -l
c:
buddy.com
maxdos -r
200

I am trying to run 1ST READER from within system manager. It runs great
with system manager shutdown but from within System Manager I get the
same results as before I tried MaxDos, not enough memory.  My
understanding from the MaxDos docs is that I should be able to run any
program within System Manager that I can run from DOS.  Can anyone give
me some hints?  TIA.

Jim

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I would like to experiment with some different O/Ss on my 200LX.  I =
don't see how to do this since there isn't an a: drive.  How can I do =
this?  Thanks,  Bill

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:36:56 -0500
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AUTOEXEX.BAT should read:

maxdos -l
c:
buddy.com
200
maxdos -r

You are shutting down MAXDOS before you start the system manager with your current AUTOEXEC.BAT.


--- On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:10:00 -0500  PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:

>        I recently downloaded MAXDOS and am trying to get it to work for
>me,in my double-speed 8meg 200lx.  I have my autoexec.bat setup
>according to the docs, i.e.:
>
>maxdos -l
>c:
>buddy.com
>maxdos -r
>200

-----------------End of Original Message-----------------

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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:

>         I recently downloaded MAXDOS and am trying to get it to work for
> me,in my double-speed 8meg 200lx.  I have my autoexec.bat setup
> according to the docs, i.e.:
>
> maxdos -l
> c:
> buddy.com
> maxdos -r
> 200
>
> I am trying to run 1ST READER from within system manager. It runs great
> with system manager shutdown but from within System Manager I get the
> same results as before I tried MaxDos, not enough memory.  My
> understanding from the MaxDos docs is that I should be able to run any
> program within System Manager that I can run from DOS.  Can anyone give
> me some hints?  TIA.

The "-l" option loads it and the "-r" removes it, so you're not gaining
anything the way you're using it. The docs showed the example:

maxdos -l
100
maxdos -r

in order to show how to use MaxDOS while running SysMgr. You probably
should try:

maxdos -l
c:
buddy.com
200
maxdos -r

I don't use Buddy myself, so I'm not sure what kinds of conflicts there
are, or what the best order of loading is....I'm sure there's someone else
here who can comment on that if you still need it.

After you get the loading right, remember that you need to invoke 1ST
READER using MaxDOS also, ie on the Path line for the icon:
        a:\bin\maxdos.com 1streadr.exe|

or something like that. Also put the inverted ? (Fn-?) in the comments
field.

- Longden

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> SC was advertised as practically bullet-proof and several users asserted
> that they never locked up using it, but that wasn't my experience.

I use SC for about one and half a year and I never had a crash or a
file corruption that I could make SC responsable for, so what you say
is slightly surprising to me. And I cannot say that I use the palmtop
only occasionally - the user timer on ABC/LX has crossed the 1000 hour
limit many times :-)

However, what I still feel a pain is that the screen is not restored
properly when returning to a SysMgr section.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>You can remove the Icons from the App manager (email me direct, I'll
>explain how) but you can not remove the actual applications from the

Could you send these details to the Mailing List, I am at least one other=

who would like to remove the CCMail icon from System Manager and failed.

Thanks

Laurence Harvey

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     Hi!
     There is a A: drive but the BIOS will always get the two system files
     from the D: drive and then look for the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys.
     If it can not find it in c: it gets the one in D: drive.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    11/6/97 11:05 AM


I would like to experiment with some different O/Ss on my 200LX.  I don't see ho
w to do this since there isn't an a: drive.  How can I do this?  Thanks,  Bill

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This is the message I have been giving others mostly due to my having
said something before I had my act together...

I haven't forgotten about this, I am looking for my instructions.  The
short form is...

Make a copy of your appmgr.dat file.
Move the copy to someplace where you can edit the file using a HEX
editor.  (Xtree or debug or something)
Look at the structure of the file, you will see a repeating sequence
associated with each entry in the appmgr.dat file.
Now go to the palmtop and "move" one application from where it is to the
end of the app manager screen.
make another copy of the appmgr.dat file.
Move this "new" file to the place where your "old" copy is.  (you will
have to rename the old one.
Look at this "new" file.  You will see that all but two characters
"moved" with the icon you moved in the application manager.
If you replace the characters that "moved" with (I think) 00 ÝHEX¨ the
icon associated with the location you modify will be "erased".
Do not change the length of the appmgr.dat file and do not remove the
characters that don't "move".

Good luck!

I will find my detailed explanation and send it to you ant the others
who responded as soon as possible.

Phil

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>
>
>Could you send these details to the Mailing List, I am at least one other
>who would like to remove the CCMail icon from System Manager and failed.
>
>Thanks
>
>Laurence Harvey
>
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hi folks,

Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)

Thanks!
Rudy Moore

200LX memory page: http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~orn/200lx.html

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On 1997-11-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Phil Drummond wrote:
   >>You can remove the Icons from the App manager (email me direct,
   >>I'll explain how) but you can not remove the actual applications
   >from the Could you send these details to the Mailing List, I am at
   >least one other who would like to remove the CCMail icon from
   >System Manager and failed. Thanks
   >Laurence Harvey
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Why oh why do we consider getting rid of this icon leading to one of the
least used and possibly the best program on the LX?

I tried @palmtop.com for a while and absolutely loved the service and the
ease of use of ccMail mobile on the palmtop was unmatched, I could cut
and paste from any app, leave mail open and pending thoughts, swap to and
from all my other built-in apps and the send times were better than any
other mail system I have tried.

But, I live in Auckland, New Zealand, and using @palmtop.com was costing
an arm and a leg to dial the US, although the connect times were faster
than my Auckland based IP!!

I wish more palmtoppers would get together & collectively buy a ccMail
gateway and setup their own acces to the internet, it's not to difficult,
just a little pricey for one person...

I have heard Compuserve has a ccMail gateway, does anybody have any
experience of this provider?

Just my 0.02c worth!

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.09  - Test Drive

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I have also wondered if other stuff could be "loaded" instead of MS DOS.
Now is someone's chance to help the clueless...
After DOS is loaded, before starting the PIM (or whatever), would it be
possible to "replace" the running OS (DOS) with another OS, or is DOS
"running" from ROM (in whole or part)?

Phil
(I am scrambling around, I know that thing about Icons is here
somewhere...)

>

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Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:19:44 -0800
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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Rudy Moore wrote:

> Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
> currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
> those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
> it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)

Try running a combination of "palrun" and "dbview", both at the SUPER
site:
        http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

- Longden

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Well, a week or so ago I asked for information on what modems and or
modem/ethernet combo or straight ethernet cards would work on an
HP200LX, promising to post the responses to the list, so here it is.

If you have a modem/ethernet card (preferred, what I'm looking for) or
just a ethernet or a modem to add to the list, go ahead and e-mail it
to me, if I get enough more (say 3 or so) I'll re-post.
Jay
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From:     John Shaw <1414lxm@ihug.co.nz>
APEX ClipperCom World V.34 33.6 Cellular modem
 (Power rating is 157Mamps which is above the recommended 15Ma but it
works )
  = AND =
I have the usual EXP1414lxm/4meg which works
perfectly.

From:             Jaime Viehweg <jviehweg@labsup1.ih.lucent.com>
I have not tried any ethernet cards but I have a "PhoneWorks To Go!"
made by "Connectware".  that works just fine.

From:             childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
 Simple Technologies 33.6 Communicator.

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If you use Windows 95 you can get software from Puma Technologies that
will import/export the phone database into and from Schedule+.
Intellisync is the product name.  Puma can be reached by calling
(603)888-0666.  Intellisync is good, it even will work with custom phone
databases.

Phil

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>From:  Rudy MooreÝSMTP:orn@CS.WISC.EDU¨
>Sent:  Thursday, November 06, 1997 3:58 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>hi folks,
>
>Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
>currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
>those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
>it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)
>
>Thanks!
>Rudy Moore
>
>

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Text of message from orn@CS.WISC.EDU, 6 Nov 1997, 04:58 PM
> hi folks,
>
> Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?
> I currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and
> on those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to
> use it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)

Use the desktop versions of the HP's apps from either the HP Connectivity
Pack or the more elegant windows versions from Yellow Computing
(http://www.yellow.de).

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
 (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
 ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu

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PIM records can be printed to a file. HP has several options.
Then use FIND, grep or whatever in DOS or Notepad in Win.

Rudy Moore wrote:

> hi folks,
>
> Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
> currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
> those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
> it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)
>
> Thanks!
> Rudy Moore
>
> 200LX memory page: http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~orn/200lx.html
>
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Phil,

Puma seems to only work with schedule, not "Outlook". Also I run winfax pro
and can export the phone book in database format, but Puma doesn't want to
import the database to the Hp?

David



> If you use Windows 95 you can get software from Puma Technologies that
> will import/export the phone database into and from Schedule+.
> Intellisync is the product name.  Puma can be reached by calling
> (603)888-0666.  Intellisync is good, it even will work with custom phone
> databases.

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Is there such a thing as a 200lx cable with an integral null modem
adaptor?  Sure would be more elegant than this contraption I use now!

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What is the difference between the HP PIM and Yellow Computing's version?

Thanks,
Billy F. Staggs

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What Software/Hardware would be required to setup a CCmail gateway?

Thanks,
Billy F. Staggs

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> From: David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Delete ccMail!!!!
> Date: Friday, November 07, 1997 6:00 AM
>
>
> I wish more palmtoppers would get together & collectively buy a ccMail
> gateway and setup their own acces to the internet, it's not to difficult,
> just a little pricey for one person...
>

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Dear btw,

> Is there such a thing as a 200lx cable with an integral null modem
> adaptor?  Sure would be more elegant than this contraption I use now!

The standard 200lx cable from HP *already* includes a null modem.

You may want a second null modem to reverse the effects of the first
(for example, to connect to a MIDI device); I made up a new cable, but
it would be sensible to make up a little 9 pin null-modem. I *think*
the wiring in the manual is sufficient.

Good luck with whatever it is you want to do!

--
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
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     Hi!
     None that I have found.

     Helmut in Colorado


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What is the difference between the HP PIM and Yellow Computing's version?

Thanks,
Billy F. Staggs

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I'm also a CCmail fan but haven't managed to configure it on my LX. I need to
include a script file that logs me into a local comms carrier (SITA) to
transfer my mail to the correct CCmail PO in the US. Does anyone know if it's
possible to include .scr script files in this stripped down version of
CCmail??

Keith Lawrence
keith@hk.super.net

David Lawrence wrote:

> On 1997-11-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>    >Phil Drummond wrote:
>    >>You can remove the Icons from the App manager (email me direct,
>    >>I'll explain how) but you can not remove the actual applications
>    >from the Could you send these details to the Mailing List, I am at
>    >least one other who would like to remove the CCMail icon from
>    >System Manager and failed. Thanks
>    >Laurence Harvey
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> Why oh why do we consider getting rid of this icon leading to one of the
> least used and possibly the best program on the LX?
>
> I tried @palmtop.com for a while and absolutely loved the service and the
> ease of use of ccMail mobile on the palmtop was unmatched, I could cut
> and paste from any app, leave mail open and pending thoughts, swap to and
> from all my other built-in apps and the send times were better than any
> other mail system I have tried.
>
> But, I live in Auckland, New Zealand, and using @palmtop.com was costing
> an arm and a leg to dial the US, although the connect times were faster
> than my Auckland based IP!!
>
> I wish more palmtoppers would get together & collectively buy a ccMail
> gateway and setup their own acces to the internet, it's not to difficult,
> just a little pricey for one person...
>
> I have heard Compuserve has a ccMail gateway, does anybody have any
> experience of this provider?
>
> Just my 0.02c worth!
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Longden C. Loo <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: phone database on my desktop


>On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Rudy Moore wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
>> currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
>> those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
>> it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)
>


I used gdbio to export the phone book to my Outlook  Express address book as
a CDF file, it worked quite well.

-Tim

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I can't imagine why anyone would want to delete the ccMail app. Through
the use of Qualx, which is available on the SUPER site, I'm able to send
and receive email, which is handy for me during the day when I can't
login and use Pine or Elm. Qualx is really a great addition to my
palmtop, if you have access to a shell account and have uqwk installed on
your provider's machine (you can install it yourself if it's not already
there) it's a program you should definately give a try. Happy palmtopping!!!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@(nospam)scott.net
Remove (nospam) to email me!


    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Subject:      Re: phone database on my desktop
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Hi Tim,

In your response to the following :

  > >On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Rudy Moore wrote:
  > >
  > >> Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
  > >> currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
  > >> those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
  > >> it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)
  > >

you wrote :

  > I used gdbio to export the phone book to my Outlook  Express address book as
  > a CDF file, it worked quite well.


What is "gdbio"? Is it a commercial program or one of those
share/freeware? Does it handle the phonebook from the old HP95LX? I
recently upgraded from one of those to a 320LX, and unfortunately the
new machine only can import PIM files from the HP100/200LX!

Thanks in advance for any info you may have.



Regards,
Andy.



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>
>What is "gdbio"? Is it a commercial program or one of those
>share/freeware? Does it handle the phonebook from the old HP95LX? I
>recently upgraded from one of those to a 320LX, and unfortunately the
>new machine only can import PIM files from the HP100/200LX!


Gdbio is a shareware program that converts your database or phonebook into a
comma delimited file, that you may be able to import into your address book.
I used it to import my complete phonebook into my outlook express address
book.

I don't have a 95lx so I don't know the answer to that question.

I thought the 320lx came with a cdrom that had a converstion utility on it.
Thats what I have heard anyway.

Good luck

-Tim

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-> note: this is how I have Macdos installed:
-> c:\bin\maxdos -l -e25 -w f:\temp

Thank you!  And thanks to everyone else who responded.  The line above
is what did it.
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What midi device? My brother in law, "James Morrison" trumpet player also
has a HP 200 and loves it, is reasonably tech minded, writes a lot of music
on computer, but can't find a way to do it on the HP?

Rgds David

> The standard 200lx cable from HP *already* includes a null modem.
>
> You may want a second null modem to reverse the effects of the first
> (for example, to connect to a MIDI device); I made up a new cable, but
> it would be sensible to make up a little 9 pin null-modem. I *think*
> the wiring in the manual is sufficient.

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In my HP200 I have the date format set as DD/MM/YY. If I change it to
DD-MMM-YY, exit setup, and irregardless whether I exit system manager or
not, then do a CTRL-ALT-DEL, the date format returns to DD/MM/YY. I have
received a letter from a friend with an HP100 and it does exactly the
opposite ie changes from DD/MM/YY to DD-MMM-YY. I have checked before and
after the reset and the setup.env file is modified (I do an fc /b on the
before and after versions of the file).

Anyone have any ideas on this bug. If neccessary I think that writing a
patch program in autoexec.bat should be no hassle. (If its neccessary I'll
do it).


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> What midi device? My brother in law, "James Morrison" trumpet player also
> has a HP 200 and loves it, is reasonably tech minded, writes a lot of music
> on computer, but can't find a way to do it on the HP?

I probably should write up a little contribution to the FAQ on hplx<->MIDI
connection; the question comes up every so often, and my answers surely vary
in comprehensiveness.

Anyway:
lxmidi on the SUPER site is a good start. It plays midi files through
the PC speaker and is VERY GOOD.

But if you want to connect a midi device, get gsplay from SimTel. This
program is also excellent and very small.


All MIDI devices have a MIDI in (and out); but most recent ones also have
a serial in, designed for a computer's RS-232 interface. Which is what your
hplx has.

It was maddening to not realise that hplx serial cable already contains
a null modem; and THAT's why it wasn't working!


But if you not only want to play existing MIDI files (plenty available on
the web, BTW) but also compose your - as a kind of backing tape, for eg -
then you need more software. I am writing an automatic composition
program, so I'm creating the MIDI file with a C program. This is not
the simplest way to compose, of course. However, all the programs I've
seen are pretty poor. You might try "Band in a Box". This is perfect for
accompaniment - like an electronic organ, it already contains many drum
tracks, chord and bass riffs.

Also, scan the SUPER archive for previous posts on this topic! :)

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Subject:      ccMail gateway
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On 1997-11-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Date:         Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:14:07 -0600
   >"Billy F. Staggs" <bstaggs@BRIGHTOK.NET>
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   >What Software/Hardware would be required to setup a CCmail gateway?
   >Thanks,
   >Billy F. Staggs


I was informed that a ccMail Post Office setup on a PC would cost around
1500 NZ dollars plus the obligatory GST. The latest versions of ccMail
Post Office have a firewall to access the internet and "aparently" it
is easy to setup. (I'm quoting here.)

I had hoped that it would be possible to talk to the operaters of large
orgs like universities, that had ccMail, and buy/rent access to the PO
with no other access, ie: one couldn't wander around the network, just
logon & do mail stuff, but I have had no luck with Auckland University
yet.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Subject:      Using HP95LX phonebook on HP320LX

Hi,

Does anyone know of any utilities which can translate the phonebook
database (with a .PBK extension) from the old HP95LX to something
which the HP320LX can use?

The 320LX does provide a program to translate files from the
100/200LX - but not for the 95LX. The sharware GDBIO also seems to
be only capable of translating 100/200LX files.

HP does not have a utility to translate 95LX files to 100LX files
either; apparently the capability is built into the 100LX hardware.
Unfortunately none of my friends own a 100/200LX...

Any info would be apprecaited. Thanks.

P/S. To a lesser degree, I'm also hoping to translate the 95LX
     appointment book (.ABK extension).






Regards,
Andy.



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Does anybody use Sparcom Drive100/200?
Anyone who has has this thing in his hands?

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Brian, you wrote:

> especially on newer Pentium systems..  If the DOS software were free, it would
> be cheaper to use a cheap machine and run second copy than to buy a new faster
> version.

That's the problem with you software guys. Why can't you let the
customer decide if he wants to pay more and have a better product or
less if he wants less? If your windows version is worth its price, why
should one use the DOS version? If you are afraid of people doing so,
what does that consequently mean?

Why don't you make old software free? Nobody will exspect support for a
free software.


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>> But I guess you have not tried the EXP Low Power Modem and the Visual CE.
>> Since if you do, you will be very happy that you still are using your HP
>> 200LX!!!
>
>Jorgen, can you elaborate on that?
>
>- Longden

I don't want to say to much. But since the Win CE platform is very new,
don't expect to much. However, things like the EXP modem will be fixed and
hopefully Win CE programs with a lots of bugs.

Jorgen

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what questions do you have? I have been shutting down the cc:Mail
postoffices here due to change over to Exchange 5.0. This location had
the SMTP gateway needed to support internet communications and multiple
modems for dial-in support.

You do not need the latest versions to perform the setup for a palmtop
e-mail station. I would suggest a NT workstation with at least 4 modems
to support multiple users and a connection to an IP that would allow for
batch mail transfer. This could be done from someone's home or office.

Stephen Souza
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On 1997-11-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >>What is "gdbio"? Is it a commercial program or one of those
   >>share/freeware? Does it handle the phonebook from the old HP95LX? I
   >>recently upgraded from one of those to a 320LX, and unfortunately
   >>the new machine only can import PIM files from the HP100/200LX!
   >Gdbio is a shareware program that converts your database or
   >phonebook into a comma delimited file, that you may be able to
   >import into your address book. I used it to import my complete
   >phonebook into my outlook express address book.
   >I don't have a 95lx so I don't know the answer to that question.
   >I thought the 320lx came with a cdrom that had a converstion
   >utility on it. Thats what I have heard anyway.
   >Good luck
   >-Tim
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Any 100/200/700LX can import your 95LX phonebook. So find someone who has
one of these machines. After this conversion you can use the import software
from your 320LX.
-Bas

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Announcing a HP palmtop users meeting for Kansas City.  We are
planning to meet in a semi-private room at the Old Country
Buffet at noon on Saturday, Nov. 15.  The restraunt expects each
person to pay for the buffet lunch.  Bring all the cool palmtop
accessories you can carry to show off :)

Good simple directions to get there:

Old Country Buffet is located at 169 highway and Barry Road,
across Barry Road from Metro North Mall on North Broadway. =

Coming from the East, take 152 West and will turn into Barry
Road.  From the West and North, take I-29 to the Barry Road
exit (#8) and head East.  From the South, come up through
Downtown KC and take the Broadway Bridge heading North.  This
turns into 169 and takes you right up to Barry Road.  At the
Barry Road exit, turn right and stay in the right lane.

Steve Carder ÝS_Carder@compuserve.com¨

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:24:56 -0500
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  >>Can someone who is currently using NiMH batteries
successfully in the 200LX tell me what charging procedure they use.<<

I have used NiMH batteries for almost 2 years.  Mostly, I charge
them in tha palmtop.  I don't let them get very low, so 6-8
hours of fast charging (ie overnight) twice a week is enough.  I
have a double speed machine, 20Meg flash card, and sometimes run
my PCMCIA modem from batteries.

I recently got an external charger from Radio Shack.  It will
charge them faster, and I don't have to have my palmtop "tied"
to the AC adaptor during charging.

The highest voltage my batteries reach while charging in the
palmtop is 2.83.  They drop some immediately when chargin is
stopped, then "settle down" in the 2.5-2.6 range.
Steve Carder ÝS_Carder@compuserve.com¨

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:28:27 -0600
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I gather then that CCmail (server) will run under NT. What version of
CCmail do I need? Is it still available and how much does it coast? Whose
SMTP gateway software would you recommend with this setup?

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> From: Souza, Mr Stephen <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: ccMail gateway
> Date: Friday, November 07, 1997 7:01 AM
>
> what questions do you have? I have been shutting down the cc:Mail
> postoffices here due to change over to Exchange 5.0. This location had
> the SMTP gateway needed to support internet communications and multiple
> modems for dial-in support.
>
> You do not need the latest versions to perform the setup for a palmtop
> e-mail station. I would suggest a NT workstation with at least 4 modems
> to support multiple users and a connection to an IP that would allow for
> batch mail transfer. This could be done from someone's home or office.
>
> Stephen Souza
> LAN Administration
> COMNAVSURFLANT
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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:39:21 GMT
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              W5GXL <Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Subject:      Feb.29, 2000  ???
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Has anyone set the HP200lx for Feb.29,2000 yet?

Looks like all the dates after that will be WRONG.

I think we will not have a Feb.29,2000 but the HP200
wants to put it in.   This will make the day of the week=20
and shifted by one day from then on..

Any ideas?

___
      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:07:53 -0600
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Re: Yellow's HP Software

Is Yellow's HP Software for Windows CD available in a trial version in
order that I can see the interface and evaluate whether I want to spend the
money.  In addition, does the software allow you to have more than one of
the applications open at once, (i.e. Address Book & Memo).

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:11:14 -0500
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You could use version 5. This will support dos and windows without much
problem and does not require a lot of  support files. I have seen the
cc:Mail packages for sale in computer stores for around a hundred
dollars. This was just the basic post office and utilities without the
client licenses. I am not sure if the HP200LX would act as the client
licensee or if you would need to get some client licenses.

The SMTP gateway from Lotus is dos base and I am not sure what it would
cost. There are some NT type that would cost around $500 last time I
checked.

The hardware and the SMTP interface should be the most expensive part of
such an operation. Then add in the monthly cost of phone lines and the
IP provider.

Stephen Souza
LAN Administration
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DSN:  836-3204
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, November 07, 1997 9:28 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
> I gather then that CCmail (server) will run under NT. What version of
> CCmail do I need? Is it still available and how much does it coast?
> Whose
> SMTP gateway software would you recommend with this setup?
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:12:07 -0800
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W5GXL wrote:

> Has anyone set the HP200lx for Feb.29,2000 yet?
> Looks like all the dates after that will be WRONG.
> I think we will not have a Feb.29,2000 but the HP200
> wants to put it in.   This will make the day of the week
> and shifted by one day from then on..


There will be a Feb. 29, 2000.  2000 is a leap year.  Any year divisible
by 4 is a leap  year, unless it ends in 00, and then it must also be
divisible by 400.  So 1900 was not a leap year, but 2000 will be.
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> Has anyone set the HP200lx for Feb.29,2000 yet?
> Looks like all the dates after that will be WRONG.

Same on my 320LX, Psion series 3, 3a and 3c and Nokia 9000.

> I think we will not have a Feb.29,2000 but the HP200
> wants to put it in.   This will make the day of the week
> and shifted by one day from then on..
> Any ideas?

I was planning to get a new toy by then anyway, now I have an excuse :-)

Paul

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      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:56:54 GMT
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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:12:07 -0800, you wrote:

>W5GXL wrote:
>
>> Has anyone set the HP200lx for Feb.29,2000 yet?
>> Looks like all the dates after that will be WRONG.
>> I think we will not have a Feb.29,2000 but the HP200
>> wants to put it in.   This will make the day of the week
>> and shifted by one day from then on..
>
>
>There will be a Feb. 29, 2000.  2000 is a leap year.  Any year divisible
>by 4 is a leap  year, unless it ends in 00, and then it must also be
>divisible by 400.  So 1900 was not a leap year, but 2000 will be.

I thought it was the other way... The year 2000 will not have a Leap
Year extra day...

___
      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:10:14 -0500
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              Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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>I have also wondered if other stuff could be "loaded"
>instead of MS DOS. Now is someone's chance to help
>the clueless... After DOS is loaded, before starting
>the PIM (or whatever), would it be possible to
>"replace" the running OS (DOS) with another OS, or
>is DOS "running" from ROM (in whole or part)?

The short answers are "Yes" and "Yes".
It is possible to replace DOS, and DOS is running from ROM.

While you can't boot a different operating system on the LX (without changing ROMs), you can boot DOS and then boot to a different OS. Sort of like running Windows 3.x, except you can completely replace DOS instead of just running on top of it. Linux has a program to do exactly that, unfortunately since it is Linux it requires a 386 or better.

As I mentioned in an earlier post to this list I'm considering porting Minix to the LX. Thus far, I haven't had the time or the spare flash card to do much in this direction. And the responses I have(n't) gotten from this list indicate that there isn't any interest out there in my doing this.

Another possibility is ELKS, the Embedded Linux Kernel System, but it's an embedded system. If you want your LX to control your microwave oven and your VCR, it could be ideal.

Kiyoshi Akima
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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:45:28 -0500
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W5GXL wrote:
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:12:07 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >W5GXL wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone set the HP200lx for Feb.29,2000 yet?
> >> Looks like all the dates after that will be WRONG.
> >> I think we will not have a Feb.29,2000 but the HP200
> >> wants to put it in.   This will make the day of the week
> >> and shifted by one day from then on..
> >
> >
> >There will be a Feb. 29, 2000.  2000 is a leap year.  Any year divisible
> >by 4 is a leap  year, unless it ends in 00, and then it must also be
> >divisible by 400.  So 1900 was not a leap year, but 2000 will be.
>
> I thought it was the other way... The year 2000 will not have a Leap
> Year extra day...
>
> ___
>       73  Dean W5GXL
>           deanl@bigfoot.com
>
> ___
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According to this web site, 2000 will be a leap year:

> http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/pubinfo/leaflets/2000/2000.html

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:23:53 -0800
Reply-To:     "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@world.northgrum.com>
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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, W5GXL wrote:

> >There will be a Feb. 29, 2000.  2000 is a leap year.  Any year divisible
> >by 4 is a leap  year, unless it ends in 00, and then it must also be
> >divisible by 400.  So 1900 was not a leap year, but 2000 will be.
>
> I thought it was the other way... The year 2000 will not have a Leap
> Year extra day...

The Royal Greenwich Observatory affirms that the year 2000 is a leap year
and that David's leap year algorithm above is correct. It was done to
ensure an error of only 1 day after 4000 years (don't ask me what happens
on 4000 AD <g> ).

Check out http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/pubinfo/leaflets/2000/2000.html

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:38:10 -0500
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Maybe I have the wrong HP cable then.  I have the HP cable with the LX
plug on one end and the 9-pin serial plug on the other end.

I just plugged in a modem WITHOUT my null modem adapter and it wouldn't
work.  WITH the adapter it works fine.

>
> The standard 200lx cable from HP *already* includes a null modem.
>

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:44:05 -0500
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At 12:38 PM 11/7/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Maybe I have the wrong HP cable then.  I have the HP cable with the LX
>plug on one end and the 9-pin serial plug on the other end.
>
>I just plugged in a modem WITHOUT my null modem adapter and it wouldn't
>work.  WITH the adapter it works fine.
>
>>
>> The standard 200lx cable from HP *already* includes a null modem.
>>

That is correct.  A modem DOESN'T need a null modem.
 You have to undo it( the built-in Null) for a modem.
The correct usage for the the Null Modem cable, which is the way the HP
cable is
wired, is when you plug it directly into your desktop PC to tranfer data.
Null needed for PC to PC and is Built in.
Modem needs straight thru cable, so you need a null adapter to UNDO the Null
built into the HP cable.

Hope this is clear enough.



====================
Mark Sailer
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UNIX/Teknekron/TRIARCH
Digital Market Data Infrastructure
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> I probably should write up a little contribution to the FAQ on hplx<->MIDI
> connection; the question comes up every so often, and my answers surely vary
> in comprehensiveness.

Brendan!

That will be VERY USEFUL to me.  I have not heard anything from the
speaker because while I downloaded lxmidi last time, I could not
find a "working" midi-file without conversion. So I dropped it.
It is time for me to pick it up again and see how good it sounds
and how I could compose something myself...

Would you point us to some test-midi-files that can be played
immediately by lxmidi without conversion...

Rudi

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:52:15 -0500
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>>There will be a Feb. 29, 2000.  2000 is a leap year.  Any year divisible
>>by 4 is a leap  year, unless it ends in 00, and then it must also be
>>divisible by 400.  So 1900 was not a leap year, but 2000 will be.
>
>I thought it was the other way... The year 2000 will not have a Leap
>Year extra day...
>
>___
>      73  Dean W5GXL
>          deanl@bigfoot.com
>
No, Dean the above is correct 2000 is a leap year. I had to do a study of
the effects of the year 2000 switch-over on some computers at work. The
information above is the same as what I found in the World Almanac.

Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson KU4ET
HP200LX Page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:43:38 -0500
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The year 2000 boogyman!

He'll get you while you're sleeping...

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Hi,

I found some rubber grommets that I think came off of the end of fiber
ST connectors.  They fit just right in my HP200LX as feet.  Is there
anybody out there that has lost there feet.  I have 15 of these things
I could send out for free.  Who NEEDS them?


Send me an email with your USMail address.

Thanks,
DOug

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:00:48 -0600
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              Bill Gossage <goose@INTERACCESS.COM>
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Is there anyway to get a Xircom CreditCard Ethernet Adaptor IIps to work
on the HP200lx?

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:35:25 -0500
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for your trusty HP!

I just could not resist:

ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/wince.pcx

And for all of Bill's lawyers out there:

It's just a little joke! Lighten up guys. :)

Mitch

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:36:48 +0000
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> I will find my detailed explanation and send it to you ant the others
> who responded as soon as possible.
>
> Phil
>
Could you send it to me, too ?
Thanks!

Regards,
Christof

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:43:44 +0000
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I have the HP ac/dc adapters for both my 200LX and my OB600C; both are made
by Delta Electronics for HP; both output at 12v with the outer connector
positive. The only difference is that the LX adapter only outputs 0.75 amps
and the 600C adapter outputs 3.3 amps (it's also about twice the size).
Question: may I safely use the larger adapter for both computers?

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:17:31 GMT
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Subject:      @Base and Lotus Agenda

Where can one get his hands on old Dos software ?

Specifically I'm interested in the 1-2-3 addin @Base and Lotus Agenda.

Are thre any sites on the Net selling those ?

Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:17:24 GMT
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Subject:      Hello All

Hello Everybody

I only learned about this mailing list very recently, so this is my very first message here.

I don't know how many of you have realized that in all major tennis tournaments the
umpire is using an HP200LX, all major tornaments except the biggest of them all :The
Grand Slam Events, thats Wimbledon, Roland Garros, US Open and Australian Open

They have some sort of connecion (Ethernet my guess) between the units they're using
and a central system where all the media and TV commentators have the score in
real-time from every match going on.

Is there anybody using the palmtop for tennis related stuff ? I for example have a 1-2-3
spreadsheet with results from all competive matches I play (club level), so I can have a
head-to-head display against all my fellow tennis players. I also have historical data from
all the tornaments I play, which is very interesting for any player.

I'd really like to devise a method by which I can collect performance data without having
a third person stuck court-side counting my horrible mistakes :-)

Any Ideas ? are IR input devices very hard to develop ? The only way I can think of such
a solution would be to have a device like the car-alarm switching thingy (small, light, fits
into your pocket, unobstrusive), if I could have a way to send 4 combinations and have
the Palmtop read and collect that into a file, I could be in business.

See ya

Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:32:58 -0700
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Subject:      Re: phone database on my desktop
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     Hi!
     NO they do not give trial versions. If you want it you must buy it.
     They operate on German sales practices. Like it or not. It will work
     on all windows versions. 3.0   -     NT 4.0.

     Helmut in Colorado




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Date:    11/7/97 8:07 AM


Re: Yellow's HP Software

Is Yellow's HP Software for Windows CD available in a trial version in
order that I can see the interface and evaluate whether I want to spend the
money.  In addition, does the software allow you to have more than one of
the applications open at once, (i.e. Address Book & Memo).

Thanks for replies.

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Norman Wolfe <norman.wolfe@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> I have the HP ac/dc adapters for both my 200LX and my OB600C; both=
 are
> made by Delta Electronics for HP; both output at 12v with the outer
> connector positive. The only difference is that the LX adapter only
> outputs 0.75 amps and the 600C adapter outputs 3.3 amps (it's also
> about twice the size). Question: may I safely use the larger adapter
> for both computers?

Do you know if the larger adapter is regulated?  If it's only twice=
 the
size of the -LX supply, it probably is.  If it is, then it will be safe
for the LX.  If you have a voltmeter handy, check the output voltage
with no load. Unregulated supplies have much higher voltage than rated
with no load.  The LX is rated to accept 9.6 - 14.4 volts.

BTW - Power supplies don't actually "output" current. The rating is=
 the
MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE load on the supply.

-PR
---------

Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
      "We have met the enemy, and he is us"       - Pogo

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:15:51 -0500
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You can download the complete Agenda v2.0 installation diskette images from:

http://www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/Agenda/dos/2.0/misc/

There is also a utility at the Lotus site that allows you to take these images and create the
needed installation disketttes.

--- On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:17:31 GMT  Shafik Mahomad <smahomad@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

>Where can one get his hands on old Dos software ?
>
>Specifically I'm interested in the 1-2-3 addin @Base and Lotus Agenda.

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           11/7/97 6:13:39 PM EST
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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:49:52 -0800
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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Shafik Mahomad wrote:

> Where can one get his hands on old Dos software ?
>
> Specifically I'm interested in the 1-2-3 addin @Base and Lotus Agenda.
>
> Are thre any sites on the Net selling those ?

@base is available from Data Watch (508-988-9700) for $90. Got this info
from Palmtop Papers some time back last year, so I don't know how accurate
it is. Shier Systems may also be carrying it ( http://www.shier.com )

- Longden

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> Re: Yellow's HP Software
>
> Is Yellow's HP Software for Windows CD available in a trial version in
> order that I can see the interface and evaluate whether I want to spend the
> money.  In addition, does the software allow you to have more than one of
> the applications open at once, (i.e. Address Book & Memo).

This thread about the phone database has gone on for awhile with alot of
references to Yellow Computing and the Conn Pack....both of which cost $$.

Is there any reason why you wouldn't want to use Palrun/DbView instead...I
mean it's free! (Or did I miss something in this thread?) This combo lacks
the bells and whistles of the other two, but it does database viewing
quite well IMHO.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:58:38 GMT
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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:43:38 -0500, you wrote:

>The year 2000 boogyman!
>
>He'll get you while you're sleeping...
>
Thanks to all....=20
Sure nice to see that the HP Gang is on the BALL !
My hat's off to them...
Thanks again...

___
      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:50:28 -0500
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Douglas - if you have any left, I would appreciate 2 -3.

Thanks.


Mikhail Epelbaum
155 James St. South, # 167, Hamilton, Ontario, L8N 1H5, Canada


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> From: Douglas V. Mashek <ctmashdv@ECSS04.NSD.FMC.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: HPLX feet
> Date: November 7, 1997 2:07 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> I found some rubber grommets that I think came off of the end of fiber
> ST connectors.  They fit just right in my HP200LX as feet.  Is there
> anybody out there that has lost there feet.  I have 15 of these things
> I could send out for free.  Who NEEDS them?
>
>
> Send me an email with your USMail address.
>
> Thanks,
> DOug
>
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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:15:58 +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

jo> I have 3 HP 200LX and another 7 in my office. They are manufactured =
94- 97
jo> and as far as I can see there is no crack in any of them. Since =
I have now
jo> seen so many messages about this problem I would like to check =
if I am
jo> really that lucky- no cracks at all...????

You are not alone Jorgen. I have had 3 200LX machines over the past
couple years and several of my friends in Trinidad also have 200lx's
(about 6 that I can vouch for) and none show "the crack" nor any sign
of the crack...

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On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:13:20 +0100, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

An> I use SC for about one and half a year and I never had a crash =
or a
An> file corruption that I could make SC responsable for, so what you =
say
An> is slightly surprising to me. And I cannot say that I use the palmtop
An> only occasionally - the user timer on ABC/LX has crossed the 1000 =
hour
An> limit many times :-)

I have to agree with you here, Andreas. I also used sc for several
months without a single incident of corrupt files nor a single crash!
It worked without a fuss on my machine. I switched recently to maxdos
only because I needed the valuable real estate that sc was gobbling
up. <g>

My only beef with it was not the appmgr redraw but the fact that I
could not stop it from interrupting a dos session when an alarm was
due in appmgr... Mind you, the notification of the alarm is a great
feature but can be bothersome when you're faxing or online!

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:05:49 -1
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Subject:      Nettamer v1.10

I have some questions about Nettamer v1.10:

The startup-screen shows I have an 80186 processor with speedindex 2. Does
this mean I have a 700LX which is equivalent to a double-speed 200LX?

I use an EXP-modemcard with 2 MB of Flash. This is drive F. I have
configured nettamer to use F: as its default drive for e-mail etc. If I try
to erase some e-mail from the list of e-mails, nothing (seems to) happen.
The size of the file doesn't change. The only difference I see is a
'root'-sign after the filename. This happens if I select files to erase or
tell nettamer to erase the first ... e-mails. I only can delete the whole
e-mail file, but that isn't always what I want.

Please help,
Bas


Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:05:56 -1
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Does anyone have a list of which files from the nattamer-directory/the
storage directory of nettamer I van safely remove? Alltogether I have far
over 650 KB. I think this is a little to much on a 2 MB hp.

greeting, Bas
Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Comments: To: jorgen@palmtop.net

<< I have 3 HP 200LX and another 7 in my office. They are manufactured 94- 97
 and as far as I can see there is no crack in any of them. Since I have now
 seen so many messages about this problem I would like to check if I am
 really that lucky- no cracks at all...???? >>

I have a HP100LX (from 1993) and a HP200LX (SG54000169) and couldn't notice
any crack in either of them. According to former messages it seems to be a
_must_ .
Is it a bug or a feature? ;-) Or a the other owners using their palmtops
knocking nails into wood?

Andreas

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I know that there has been tons of talk concerning the "disappearing"
screen, but what is the outcome? Has anyone found that it's a loose
ribbon connector between the motherboard and the screen or what? Can we
fix this ourselves or do we have to pay the $200 to HP for the "catch
all fix"? Please help me. I know you all pull through every time.
Thanks!  Alan Neves

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 07:51:02 -0500
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Net-Tamer

I think the following files are all thats needed to run Net-Tamer,
but check the Net-Tamer.Doc or the FAQ file one of them states the
needed files.

Nettamer.exe
Reader.exe
Red.com
and one of the Service.log files.

You call also keep some of the key files if you like.

Note: Nettamer will create all the other needed files.

Also create a separate mail directory and name it "inbox".
Also for your downloads create a directory called "download"

> Does anyone have a list of which files from the nattamer-directory/the
> storage directory of nettamer I van safely remove? Alltogether I have
> far over 650 KB. I think this is a little to much on a 2 MB hp.








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> > I probably should write up a little contribution to the FAQ on hplx<->MIDI
> That will be VERY USEFUL to me.
Ok, ok!

> I could not find a "working" midi-file without conversion.
Did you see the conversion program on the SUPER site? It's midi1to0 or
something similar. It's about 14.5K. I call it in in a batch file, so I
can forget about it:

@echo off
c:\midi\lxmid\midi1to0 %1 midi0.mid > midi.jnk
c:\midi\lxmid\lxmidi -n2 %2 midi0.mid > midi.jnk *********DIFFERENT
rm midi0.mid
del midi.jnk

Rem midi.jnk just stops the diagnostics filling up the screen!
Rem ****this invocation of lxmidi is for my laptop DIFFERENT FOR HPLX!******

> Would you point us to some test-midi-files that can be played
> immediately by lxmidi without conversion...
Sorry, no. I did notice some initially; but as I process all with
midi1to0, I've forgotten them.

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> The year 2000 boogyman!
>
> He'll get you while you're sleeping...
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> The year 2000 boogyman!
>
> He'll get you while you're sleeping...
:)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)


--
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> As I mentioned in an earlier post to this list I'm considering
> porting Minix to the LX. Thus far, I haven't had the time or the spare
> flash card to do much in this direction. And the responses I have(n't)
> gotten from this list indicate that there isn't any interest out there
> in my doing this.

I find it interesting, Kiyoshi! I didn't see your earlier post.
Minix is a complete unix, isn't it? The precursor of linux et al.
Multitasking, includes a compiler etc?


> Another possibility is ELKS, the Embedded Linux
> Kernel System, but it's an embedded system. If you want your LX to
> control your microwave oven and your VCR, it could be ideal.
But you could also use it as plain linux, couldn't you? But I think
ELKS will take a long time to be ready.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 06:42:18 -0700
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     Hi!
     Would not ever use my palmtop for anything like that at all, driving
     nails who ever heard of a thing like that. But I sure think it is a
     "new" feature out of Singapore if you ask me.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-GWLaotse (GWLaotse@AOL.COM) at HP-ColSprings,shargw1
Date:    11/8/97 2:52 AM


<< I have 3 HP 200LX and another 7 in my office. They are manufactured 94- 97
 and as far as I can see there is no crack in any of them. Since I have now
 seen so many messages about this problem I would like to check if I am
 really that lucky- no cracks at all...???? >>

I have a HP100LX (from 1993) and a HP200LX (SG54000169) and couldn't notice
any crack in either of them. According to former messages it seems to be a
_must_ .
Is it a bug or a feature? ;-) Or a the other owners using their palmtops
knocking nails into wood?

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 06:38:24 -0800
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On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Bas Pruijn wrote:

> Does anyone have a list of which files from the nattamer-directory/the
> storage directory of nettamer I van safely remove? Alltogether I have far
> over 650 KB. I think this is a little to much on a 2 MB hp.

I'm running 1.08PT cuz I kept hearing about problems with the 1.09-1.10
versions on the palmtop on the NetTamer list group. (Can't remember
specifics, just register discontentment all the time).

The documentation that comes with NT names the files you absolutely need
in the NT directory. I have a 6mb LX and therefore have enough room for
the help files (.KEY) and even then the 27 files I have in the main
directory comes to only 332K (another 26K in my "user" directory where I
receive the mail), which is alot smaller than your 650KB.

Of course, this is for the 1.08 version...I don't know how different 1.10
is or how many more (or less) files it may need.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 11:39:43 -0500
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I just bought a new set of Radio Shack Hi-Cap Nicads (manufactured by Go).
They initially had a charge of 2.67 V which quickly ran down to 2.45 after
a couple of hours use (20 Meg Verbatim Flash, no modem, not
double-clocked). So I charged them up again, both with the built-in
software, and also with the ABC/LX demo software, and both times, only got
up to about 2.7 V. Is this normal or did I get a bad batch?

Gavin
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 08:47:22 -0800
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I would be interested, as well.  I didn't respond earlier, making the mistake
that "lots of others would do it!" :-)

Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > As I mentioned in an earlier post to this list I'm considering
> > porting Minix to the LX. Thus far, I haven't had the time or the spare
> > flash card to do much in this direction. And the responses I have(n't)
> > gotten from this list indicate that there isn't any interest out there
> > in my doing this.
>
> I find it interesting, Kiyoshi! I didn't see your earlier post.
> Minix is a complete unix, isn't it? The precursor of linux et al.
> Multitasking, includes a compiler etc?
>
> > Another possibility is ELKS, the Embedded Linux
> > Kernel System, but it's an embedded system. If you want your LX to
> > control your microwave oven and your VCR, it could be ideal.
> But you could also use it as plain linux, couldn't you? But I think
> ELKS will take a long time to be ready.
>
> --
> bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
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> merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy
> against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.     "
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Team 200LX      NRA Life
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:08:39 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Using HP95LX phonebook on HP320LX
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Check out ABKCVT, available on the HP Handhelds forum on Compuserve. Some documentation on it follows:

ABKCVT

Convert HP-95LX Appointment book files to and from ASCII

The HP-95LX Connectivity Pack provides a capability to convert
Phone Book files to and from ASCII in CD1 format.No such facility
exists, however, for the Appointment Book.  The program ABKCVT
fills that need.

ABKCVT can convert Appointment Book files to an ASCII format
--specifically, each record is converted to a series of fields
separated by the TAB character.  More importantly, however, ABKCVT
can convert a TAB delimited file BACK TO Appointment Book format.
Uses for this capability include:

    o  Delete records in the beginning
       or middle of the file (the
       HP-95LX application can only
       delete "old" records.)

    o  Do global editing on records in
       the file.

    o  Easily add repeating
       appointments that don't fit the
       repeat types supported by the
       HP-95LX application.

ABKCVT has two modes of operation: Command Line, and interactive.
Command Line mode is used by typing the following command at the
DOS prompt:

  ABKCVT <input file> <output file>

Interactive mode is used by typing the program name only:

  ABKCVT

You will be prompted for the input file name and the output file
name. If the output file exists, you will be asked if you wish to
overwrite the existing file.  (In Command Line mode, an existing
file will be overwritten without asking.)

You can get a summary of use by typing:

  ABKCVT ?

ABKCVT determines which way to convert from the file extension(s).
A file name that ends in .ABK is assumed to be an Appointment Book
file.  Any other extension (or no extension) is considered to be
an ASCII file.  You must enter exactly one .ABK file.  For
example, to convert MASTER.ABK to MASTER.TXT, the command would
be:

  ABKCVT MASTER.ABK MASTER.TXT

To convert this file back to Appointment book format after
changing it, type:

  ABKCVT MASTER.TXT MASTER.ABK

If you use interactive mode, type the appropriate file name at the
prompt. ABKCVT was written for use on either the HP-95LX itself,
or on a host PC. Operation is the same on either.

Note that if ABKCVT encounters an error in processing its input
file, the output file will be incomplete. Therefore, you should
make a backup of a file before overwriting it.

The format of the TEXT file is described in comments included in
the file itself.

The HP-95LX has six data record types, plus a SETTINGS record.
The format for each record type in the ASCII file is shown in a
comment just before the first occurrence of that record type.
Normally, the HP-95LX sorts the records by type, then by date
within type.  It is not necessary to sort records that you add or
change; the Appointment Book application will sort them when it
reads them in.

Any questions should be directed to the author on COMPUSERVE, ID
73677,3414.

This is a Shareware program.  If you find it useful, a
contribution of $10.00 would be greatly appreciated.

  Send to:          Lawrence N. Finch
                    P.O. Box 1204
                    Maywood, NJ 07607

ABKCVT (C) 1992 by Lawrence N. Finch




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From:  Andy ChengÝSMTP:Andy.Cheng@FCIT.MONASH.EDU.AU¨
Sent:  7-Nov-97 01:26
To:  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:  Using HP95LX phonebook on HP320LX

Hi,

Does anyone know of any utilities which can translate the phonebook
database (with a .PBK extension) from the old HP95LX to something
which the HP320LX can use?

The 320LX does provide a program to translate files from the
100/200LX - but not for the 95LX. The sharware GDBIO also seems to
be only capable of translating 100/200LX files.

HP does not have a utility to translate 95LX files to 100LX files
either; apparently the capability is built into the 100LX hardware.
Unfortunately none of my friends own a 100/200LX...

Any info would be apprecaited. Thanks.

P/S. To a lesser degree, I'm also hoping to translate the 95LX
     appointment book (.ABK extension).






Regards,
Andy.



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        *                 Andy Cheng                     *
        *      Department of Software Development        *
        * Faculty of Computing & Information Technology  *
        *                Monash University               *
        *    Email : acheng@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au   *
        *       or : cheng@silas.cc.monash.edu.au        *
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I use these batteries also, mainly because I can't find anything better
locally.  I use a stand alone charger but if you want me to run some tests
I'll be happy to.

Benson


> software, and also with the ABC/LX demo software, and both times, only got
> up to about 2.7 V. Is this normal or did I get a bad batch?

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Gavin Hui <gavin@INFORAMP.NET> wrote:

> ...a couple of hours use (20 Meg Verbatim Flash, no modem, not
> double-clocked). So I charged them up again, both with the built-in
> software, and also with the ABC/LX demo software, and both times,=
 only
> got up to about 2.7 V. Is this normal or did I get a bad batch?

Doesn't sound right.  I also use the RS HiCap NiCads, and get about
10-11 hours with a 12V SanDisk 15Mb card (JAMmed to 33Mb).  Using
ABC/LX charging stops at 2.87V.  This drops to around 2.7V when
charging stops, but with the adapter still connected. Without the
adapter the batteries measure about 2.55-2.6V (by ABC/LX) right after
charging.

How much charge are they getting?  The built-in software only charges
at 100mA for 6 hours, then drops the rate to 40mA.  How many hours of
charge is the ABC/LX demo showing on the graph?

PR
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:55:47 -0800
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On 1997-11-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said
   >> I will find my detailed explanation and send it to you ant the
   >>others  who responded as soon as possible.

I would love a copy too.
thanks
nancyb@best.com


Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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I'd like to use a rechargable battery for my HP320LX.  Any
suggestions/recommendations/comments greatly appreciated...

Greg

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:36:57 -0500
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For Sale:
HP200LX 2meg palmtop that has been upgraded to 6meg.
Excellent condition, no scratches on the screen, hinges are perfect, case
latch is perfect. Original manuals, and box included.

2  10meg HP Flash cards (f1013a)
1  AC/DC Adapter  HP (f1011a)
HP Connectivity Pack

$650 US dollars.  COD or prepaid (I'll pay shipping charges).

Email me for more info: julies@iquest.net
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:11:20 +0200
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              David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
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It has been brought to my attention recently that there is a bug in my
200mnu program. If you have your palmtop to display the date in the
format DD-MMM-YY, the month was incorrectly displayed by one month. ie on
8-NOV-1997 the date displayed was 8-DEC-1997. The bug in no way affected
the operation of the program. I have corrected this "minor" bug and sent an
updated version (with newer bugs :) to Mitch at the SUPER site. I would
like to thank Steve for bringing the bug to my attention.

By the way if anyone has any ideas for improvements or updates to the
program (I have a few ideas of my own in mind),I will be glad to hear from
you.


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(davidb@netmedia.net.il)
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 09:36:34 PST
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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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> >I have heard Compuserve has a ccMail gateway, does anybody have any
> >experience of this provider?
>
> I asked the CIS UK helpline and got the answers as attached.
> I will explore it when I get a bit of time.
>
> Jorgen
I was the original poster, unfortunately, Compuserve Pacific, (the provid=
er I would have to use)
has the highest rates in the world! Over $5.95 per hour! I don't wanna =
sign up and mess
around for hours to find out the so-called ccMail access is a bust, so =
I was hoping to contact
somebody who had practical experience of this combo. Each time I have spo=
ken to the "Help
Desk" staff at CP, (after waits of over 40 minutes!) I have been given =
the "I don't know, I'll check
with my supervisor..."

It just goes to show how slick and wonderful @palmtop.com is, I only wish=
 I had a special line to
the US, or even better, a job in the States...

Take care.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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        Anyone ever had their HP 200LX battery charging indicator quit
signaling "Full" before. "Low" and "O.K." seem to be functional, but I
think I have badly overcharged a pair of NiCads trying to "fully" charge
them. Any diagnostics I can run? Any "associated" behaviour I should be on
the lookout for?
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:32:51 -1000
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Mitch - great!

Aloha- bob    \ooo_
............................
>Date:    Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:35:25 -0500
>From:    "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
>Subject: A new topcard...
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>for your trusty HP!
>
>I just could not resist:
>
>ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/wince.pcx
>
>And for all of Bill's lawyers out there:
>
>It's just a little joke! Lighten up guys. :)
>
>Mitch

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:02:15 -0500
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The following is an extract from CIS regarding cc:Mail. =

Sorry about the length but I assume this will be of some interest to many=
=2E
CIS hope to have a native mail-hub by mid-December.

Jorgen

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What do cc:Mail users need to connect to the hub?

cc:Mail users need: =


1. A CompuServe membership 2. A modem 3. cc:Mail post offices require
the cc:Mail Router 4. A script (7 lines, which will be available
on-line) 5. The cc:Mail site must be registered with the hub.  The
registration process primarily asks for the name of the post office (or
remote user) and the CompuServe User ID used by the cc:Mail site. =


How does cc:Mail fit in with the other hub offerings? =


With the introduction of cc:Mail support by the CompuServe Mail Hub,
the hub is making more headway to becoming the central message routing
mechanism for LAN email packages. While cc:Mail is very popular, MHS is
also very popular, running a close second in the number of installed
users. With the increasing importance of inter-company communication,
and the variety of email systems available, providing a link between
the two most popular LAN email systems allows these two communities to
exchange messages easily and economically.  The CompuServe Mail Hub
routes messages among numerous mail systems such as DaVinci, Beyond,
Notework, Reach, ExpressIt! and will now include cc:Mail. =


How will support for cc:Mail be priced? =


The price is the same for either MHS or cc:Mail.  Access to the
CompuServe Mail Hub carries a $5 per hour surcharge in addition to the
standard CompuServe connect charges. =



                              =

Pricing(FREE)

Pricing for the CompuServe Mail Hub: =


When you use the administration program (GO CCMAIL) to establish and
maintain your cc:Mail registration on CompuServe, you are billed
standard CompuServe connect charges. =


When you use cc:Mail to exchange messages, you are billed a surcharge
of $6.00 per hour in addition to the standard CompuServe connect
charges. =


For example: =


At any baud rate, the standard CompuServe connect rate is $2.95 per
hour. When accessing the CompuServe Mail Hub, there is a $6.00 per hour
surcharge, so the effective amount of the CompuServe Mail Hub is $8.95
per hour.  This amount is billed in 1 minute increments, or about $.15
per minute. =


There is no added expense for the number of characters transmitted.
Your only cost is the time you are connected to the CompuServe Mail
Hub. =


Sending messages to other mail systems =


There is no added cost for sending messages to CompuServe members,
users of NetWare MHS, the Internet, MCI Mail, Infonet, Advantis,
Deutsche Bundespost, ATT Mail 400, Western Union 400 or SprintMail. =


There is a cost to send a message to a fax address. =


GO RATES for details on the standard CompuServe connect charges.  =


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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:12:09 -0600
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Julie Strietelmeier wrote:
>
> For Sale:
> HP200LX 2meg palmtop that has been upgraded to 6meg.
> Excellent condition, no scratches on the screen, hinges are perfect, case
> latch is perfect. Original manuals, and box included.
>
> 2  10meg HP Flash cards (f1013a)
> 1  AC/DC Adapter  HP (f1011a)
> HP Connectivity Pack
>
> $650 US dollars.  COD or prepaid (I'll pay shipping charges).
>
> Email me for more info: julies@iquest.net
> ---
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> http://members.iquest.net/~julies
> http://www.geocities.com/~thegadgeteer
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Julie:

I would be interested in one (or both) of the 10MB flash cards.  It
might make the package more attractive (affordable) for someone else.
Let me know if you're interested.  Just curious, did you buy another
palmtop?

Les
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:49:07 -0400
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              B Wills <btw@VNET.NET>
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Is there a good one via the WWW?  How much to the AA's run compared
to the RS Hi-caps??

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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:40:04 -0800
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Andreas,

I have two 200 LXes and neither has a crack. They are from 1994. I think
they use the kind of plastic in those that is used on police radios, it
just has that look, and I've had a couple of the old Motorola "H.T."
radios and the plastic looked very similar. This is a VERY tough
plastic, and I never did see one of those radios with a broken case.

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

GWLaotse@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> << I have 3 HP 200LX and another 7 in my office. They are manufactured 94- 97
>  and as far as I can see there is no crack in any of them. Since I have now
>  seen so many messages about this problem I would like to check if I am
>  really that lucky- no cracks at all...???? >>
>
> I have a HP100LX (from 1993) and a HP200LX (SG54000169) and couldn't notice
> any crack in either of them. According to former messages it seems to be a
> _must_ .
> Is it a bug or a feature? ;-) Or a the other owners using their palmtops
> knocking nails into wood?
>
> Andreas

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:57:33 -0800
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Hello to everyone,
        I bought a new 200LX 4 months ago and I have hardly used it. ( It is my
second 200LX.) I have been reading about the "hinge cracks" like the
rest of you. When I first read about the crack problem I looked at my
200LX and did not see any crack on the hinge, although I imagined (I
thought I was imagining it) I saw a very faint line on it at the place
where the crack was supposed to be.
        Then I read the posting from the person who used his "Radio Shack"
microscope to 'scope' out his 200LX for cracks. I thought that sounded
like a good idea, so I used my nephew's (exact same) microscope and
looked at my 200LX. I was saddened to see that my almost new machine
also had the infamous crack right where the web site fotos show it
occurring. The crack on my 200LX does not resemble a "crack" so much as
a split in the material that started on the inside of the casing and has
worked it way up to the surface. I have not called HP yet but I am
planning to next week.
        So... if your 200LX does not have a crack on it (as some say) I am
honestly happy for you, I truly wish none of our 200LXs had a damaged
hinge or anything else, but.. you may want to check your 200LX with a
magnifying glass.
        I am curious if HP will replace my unit. Anyway, so far the best
self-fix remedy I have heard of is putting crazy glue on the crack in
order to cement the crack shut. Since the 200LX's plastic case gets
deformed (melts?) when it comes into contact with crazy glue I am still
thinking about this option. If you have tried any other types of
remedies please post them. If you have already posted them and don't
want to re-post them perhaps you could e-mail me a copy of the old
posting.
        Has anyone in this group contacted HP about these hinge cracks and
gotten any constructive suggestions?
                Take care,
                        Richard Bueker

Ian Melville wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:15:58 +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> jo> I have 3 HP 200LX and another 7 in my office. They are manufactured 94- 97
> jo> and as far as I can see there is no crack in any of them. Since I have now
> jo> seen so many messages about this problem I would like to check if I am
> jo> really that lucky- no cracks at all...????
>
> You are not alone Jorgen. I have had 3 200LX machines over the past
> couple years and several of my friends in Trinidad also have 200lx's
> (about 6 that I can vouch for) and none show "the crack" nor any sign
> of the crack...
>
> Regards,
>
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>
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:14:39 +0800
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Hi,

Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem are all great games!!! I wonder if there are any
old copies of these programs that can run on a HP 200LX (or a similar game)??

Thanks,

Jorgen

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        I looked through the HPLX documentation, and I did not see it. I
know, from an earlier HP calculator I have that HP includes such things in
their hardware. How many are there? ÝThe calculator has two.¨ What do they
check, and how does one activate them? Any special caveats? E.g. I already
have read NOT to have a flash card in at the time. Will one or more of
them erase the data on drive c: ÝI suppose a backup is always a good
policy in any case. Should I expect to need it?¨
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:20:08 -0500
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Subject:      HP and Infrared

Is there a driver that will allow infrared file, NOT printer, but file
transfer between  the IR HP200LX and a IRDA Laptop ?   YES or NO......   IF
YES,  where is this driver software? and what is the setup (ports,
connectivity pack, etc.) for file transfer.

Teresa

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:14:11 -0500
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I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos anywhere. I =
think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where I =
could get a copy?

Thanks,

Glen Bergs
gcbergs@gte.net
Atlanta GA

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 21:46:07 +0800
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Now that Jorgen has come forward saying his sets are fine...I've finally
got the guts to say that mine is too!  I thought I was one of those who
coudn't identify it, but now I realise that really there's nothing
there...I feel around for plastic fatigue but there's none really...it's
quite sturdy really... .
Serial No.: SG70202801
 So is it really a design flaw...or is my palmtop not worn in enuff??

Irving Ian Liao
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Date:         Sat, 8 Nov 1997 09:35:07 -0600
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There are some applications that I am unable to execute when setting up
Icons under System Manger:

Buddy
Magnigy
Keybez.com

I must first "terminate all" and exit to DOS then invoke the programs.
Am I doing something wrong?

Les

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:00:37 +0800
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Can you please explain it to me? I had been trying to rid the icons so that
I can use the alphabets to start other programs.

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Are these DOS programs?

If so, you simply need more memory than the System Manager will release.

Your options are:

  1. Define the amount of memory allocated to program using the | symbol at the end of the
     path statement.  See page 24-2 of your 200LX manual.

  2. If the above does not work and your software is a real memory hog, use MaxDOS.  This
     software can be downloaded at the SUPER site.

Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.

Michael

--- On Sat, 8 Nov 1997 09:35:07 -0600  Leslie Cohn <lcohn@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>There are some applications that I am unable to execute when setting up
>Icons under System Manger:
>
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           11/9/97 11:05:56 AM EST
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:07:16 -0500
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Glen Bergs wrote:
>
> I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos anywhere. I think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where I could get a copy?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen Bergs
> gcbergs@gte.net
> Atlanta GA
>
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Point your browser to this site they be able to help you

http://www.wdn.com/ems/oldtools/ms.htm


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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:46:14 -0500
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Subject:      Magnify & DSPCTL.COM

Could someone please explain how the built-in DSPCTL.COM program works. There was a recent post on this and it caught my interest. My objective it to use some sort of magnification for the screen. I have to use my 200LX continuously and often have to refer to it from a distance of 3'. Any suggestions? Is the "magnify" program that used to be sold by ACE (I think) any good?
Thanks,
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:03:04 -0800
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On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Irving Ian Liao wrote:

> Now that Jorgen has come forward saying his sets are fine...I've finally
> got the guts to say that mine is too!  I thought I was one of those who
> coudn't identify it, but now I realise that really there's nothing
> there...I feel around for plastic fatigue but there's none really...it's
> quite sturdy really... .
> Serial No.: SG70202801
>  So is it really a design flaw...or is my palmtop not worn in enuff??

Most seem to get the infamous crack several months after purchase. Mine
cracked at around 5 months. I see from your serial number that it's a '97
model so it's fairly new, and maybe it's just a matter of time...

Then again, you could be lucky.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:01:20 -0800
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HP 200LX w/ 1MB RAM - Excellent condition
- PCMCIA 3MB Flash RAM Card (uncompressed)
- PCMCIA 14.4 Fax/Data Modem w/ 2MB Flash RAM Card (uncompressed)
- Connectivity Pack including disks & manuals
- Leather Carrying case
- AC Power Adapter
- Two AA Hi-Capacity Rechargeable Nickel Cadmium Battery's

Manuals Include: 200LX User's Guide, 200LX Quick Start Guide,
Connectivity Pack User's Guide, Fax/Data Modem User's Guide, Fax/Data
Modem User's Manual, Simply 123 v2.4, & Lotus Guide to 123 @Functions

$400 obo, or trade for PalmPilot Pro.

This is a great palmtop, but I can't synchronize with my PIM software in
less than five steps.  Works great for e-mail, Quicken, address book,
etc.

David Brady
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 14:14:07 -0500
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Hi group-

Has anyone on the list tried EnVision Publisher v2.04?  This looks like
a great piece of software (BIG though - 2.2Mb installed).

Anyway I DL'd this a couple of days ago, & have been trying it out.=

The screen looks great even in monochrome CGA.  Everything seems to
work fine EXCEPT printing - Arrrgh   8-(

If anybody has this program, have you managed to print from the
palmtop??  If so, whats the secret??

Thanks

PR
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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 21:24:26 -1
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On 1908- 1-Sa HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Hi  Bas Pruijn
   >When you're in the list view hit the "E" key to mark the messages
   >that you want to erase.
   >After you have read all of your messages and are ready to
   >exit, hit the "ESC" you might have to hit it a couple of times to
   >exit a message will come up " checking marked messages (I believe).
   >After that it will show the total number of messages that you have.
   >Just hit the "enter" key and Net-Tamer will erase only the marked
   >message.
   >Note: At any time if Net-tamer ask to delete older files say "No".
   >> I use an EXP-modemcard with 2 MB of Flash. This is drive F. I have
   >> configured nettamer to use F: as its default drive for e-mail etc.
   >>If I  try to erase some e-mail from the list of e-mails, nothing
   >>(seems to)  happen. The size of the file doesn't change. The only
   >>difference I see is a  'root'-sign after the filename. This
   >>happens if I select files to erase  or tell nettamer to erase the
   >>first ... e-mails. I only can delete the  whole e-mail file, but
   >that isn't always what I want.
   >Regards,
   >____
   >/ __ \  ____ ___  ____ _____
   >/ / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
   >/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
   >\___\_\/_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/_/ /_(_|_|_)
   >ÝhP¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands
Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Thanks for your reactions. If I try to follow these instructions (mark
message with E, etc.) I receive an error in reader.exe (something with 64
and some addres. Where do I find version 1.08 which should work allright?
Could my problems have to do with using a flash-card as my temp-dir?

Bas

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:33:04 -0800
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Hmm.....EnVision Publisher, another victim...... >:-)>

Whats the URL for the DL?


At 02:14 PM 11/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi group-
>
>Has anyone on the list tried EnVision Publisher v2.04?  This looks like
>a great piece of software (BIG though - 2.2Mb installed).
>
>Anyway I DL'd this a couple of days ago, & have been trying it out.
>The screen looks great even in monochrome CGA.  Everything seems to
>work fine EXCEPT printing - Arrrgh   8-(
>
>If anybody has this program, have you managed to print from the
>palmtop??  If so, whats the secret??

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Quinton Jones JR <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> Hmm.....EnVision Publisher, another victim...... >:-)>
>
> Whats the URL for the DL?

I got it from SimTel in the /msdos/deskpub subdirectory.  Later found
Software Vision's web page at:
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/SoftwareVision/

Both have v2.04, but the web site lists different phone nbrs and a new
snail-mail address.

Emailed them, so will see if they answer...

PR
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Wow $1000.00 is a bit more than I wanted to spend..... Still looking. =
Anyone  have any other ideas???

Glen Bergs wrote:
>=20
> I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos anywhere. =
I think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where =
I could get a copy?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Glen Bergs
> gcbergs@gte.net
> Atlanta GA
>=20

Point your browser to this site they be able to help you

http://www.wdn.com/ems/oldtools/ms.htm


Gary Christian

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 17:59:54 -0500
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              Steve Carder <S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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The HP200LX self test is started thus:  close all your programs
and applications down.  Turn the palmtop off.  Hold down the ESC
key while turning it on.  You can now select tests from the
menu.  The serial port test requires connecting some of the pins
to each other, so you can't do it without more equipment.  The
RAM card test is for SRAM cards, not Flash cards.  It can trash
Flashcards.  The keyboard test requires pressing the keys in
order.  Start with ESC and go across to ON, now do TAB across to
Right Arrow and so on until you get to +.  None of the tests
should trash your C: drive, but backups are always a good idea. =

The palmtop reboots when you are done

Steve Carder ÝS_Carder@compuserve.com¨

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 23:28:20 GMT
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Are there any WEB storefronts for HP accessories
located in Europe ? this way I don't really have to
worry about customs.

See ya




Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Hi

Where in Europe can I get the double-speed upgrade ?
What are your experiences with it ?
and how much did it cost ?
How long did it take ?

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Shafik Mahomad
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:59:01 -2052
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Ain't old enough.  Remember what we're dealing with here is an

XT.  If you can't run Quake on your XT, you can't run it on a palmtop.

Think back to when you were running Doom on your 386-25 -- do

you _really_ think it would work well on a 186-8?  Come _on_.  ;)


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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>

Date: Sunday, November 09, 1997 12:25 PM

Subject: Quake, Doom or Duke Nukem- on the 200LX????



>Hi,

>

>Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem are all great games!!! I wonder if there are any

>old copies of these programs that can run on a HP 200LX (or a similar
game)??



Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>

Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Why not QuickBASIC 4.5?  It's Visual Basic for DOS without

the extra fluff.  So is PowerBASIC -- it's a very good interpreter/

compiler, and it costs a little over $100.  They've got a trial version

called FirstBASIC which is a fairly good subset of PowerBASIC

but doesn't have file loading capabilities -- you can only make

small programs which can be typed in one session. .


http://www.powerbasic.com


QuickBASIC is very good if you can find a copy; not much

anymore since abandonware disappeared.  Steer clear of

anything before 4.0, though.  4.5 is best.   Anyone know a

place where you can get QBX 7.0?  That was in my opinion

the best BASIC implementation they ever made.


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>

Advanced Software Systems, Inc.


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From: Glen Bergs <gcbergs@GTE.NET>

To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>

Date: Sunday, November 09, 1997 10:54 PM

Subject: Re: Visual Basic for Dos



Wow $1000.00 is a bit more than I wanted to spend..... Still looking. Anyone
have any other ideas???


Glen Bergs wrote:

>

> I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos anywhere. I
think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where I
could get a copy?

>

> Thanks,

http://www.wdn.com/ems/oldtools/ms.htm



Gary Christian


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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:31:03 -0500
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Funny you should bring this up.  I have been trying to get this to work
for a month.  Last night, I got it to work.  Here's what I learned.

I'm using a Compaq Armada 1590.  No amount of fiddling with the Compaq IR
drivers seemed to work.  The magic occoured when I removed the Compaq
drivers and then reinstalled the ones from HP.  Here's what I did:

Start..Settings..Control Panel..System.  Then choose the Device Manager
tab.  Goto the Infrared section and delete the driver.  Also delete any
infrared drivers from the ports section.  Reboot.  When your machine
reboots, it will find the new hardware and want to install infrared
drivers.  Pick the HP ones.  Reboot again.  Fire up Transfile Win 200 or
W32Filer.  Now, here's some more magic - there are two infrared ports.
One is a "raw" port, and one is an IRDA emulated port.  On my machine,
com3 is raw and com1 is the IRDA emulation.  I pick com3.  Then I put my
HP200 in IR Filer mode and zap, I'm connected!!!  It works great!  I'm
very happy.  No more cables!

On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, -Teresa Jackson wrote:

> Is there a driver that will allow infrared file, NOT printer, but file
> transfer between  the IR HP200LX and a IRDA Laptop ?   YES or NO......   IF
> YES,  where is this driver software? and what is the setup (ports,
> connectivity pack, etc.) for file transfer.
>
> Teresa

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Subject:      parallel addapter

i just picked up a used Quatech SPP100 PCMCIA parallel port.  i have not yet
had a chance to experiment with it.  has anyone else used this product to
successfully interface with either a printer or a zip drive?

thanks,

lynn m. cavendish

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Hi!
    I own one HP200LX. I love the machine, but i have some problems: I
live in Argentina, and the palmtop is the 1MB model. There's no company
here that sells memory upgrades for the machine or CPU upgrades. Also,
the Hewlett-Packard technical service is meant for printers, and they
have little or no information on handheld computing. I've asked for
information in Times2Tech, and I think i'll have to send they my HP for
the 8MB upgrade. Anyone of you have ever made 8MB upgrade?
    I have a little problem on the 200LX: two vertical lines are missing
(i can't see any dots on it), but they appear again when i press hardly
on the left side of the screen. Any help? (Note: I have no guarranty
left)

Andr=E9s Kievsky

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:22:50 +0000
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Subject:      Trade: Laptop 540HD for HP200lx "stuff"...
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I have a Western Digital  540 MB IDE laptop hard disk (2.5" hd, about
1/2" thick) with an Ascentia J20 laptop adapter.  Value is aprox: 50$
for the HD and 15$ (50 if you wanted it new) for the adapter.

I would like to trade it for HP200LX stuff.... such as:
HP connectivity cable + cash
2 HP connectivity cables.
Ram card of any kind (FLASH, SRAM etc, prefer SRAM).
PCMCIA Modem with X-jack type connector (any speed starting at
2400bps, prefer faster than 9600).
Any other "cool stuff" to attach to/use with  the HP200lx
considered...

The HD has what I assume to be the "standard" 2.5" connector (about
40 pins in two rows, middle of bottom row has a two pin space) and
the adapter allows you to plug this HD into an Ascentia J20 laptop
(so you can swap HD's quickly).  If you have an Ascentia J20,
everything is peachy, if you don't, you may need to get whatever type
of adapter your laptop needs. (If you are replacing a smaller drive,
you can probably use the adapter your current drive is using).

The HD currently has Linux on it, but you can re-partition and put
any OS you want on it.

E-mail offers.
Jay W. Summet

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:35:39 -0800
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I get this same response with V1.10.  I have a hunch it may be related to
'disk full' errors, but I'm not certain.  I also have a problem with
deleting the old e-mails...

At 09:24 PM 11/9/97 -1, you wrote:
>Thanks for your reactions. If I try to follow these instructions (mark
>message with E, etc.) I receive an error in reader.exe (something with 64
>and some addres. Where do I find version 1.08 which should work allright?
>Could my problems have to do with using a flash-card as my temp-dir?
>
>Bas
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:25:31 -0500
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Has anyone coerced Acrobat for DOS into running on the HP?
Or another program that will decipher PDF's?

Says it requires a 386 and 2MB memory... I can get around the memory, but...
Thanks,
Jay
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:38:34 +0000
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Good day or night:

I'm using two interrupts in my palmtop, first: 0x08 (clock interrupt)
, second : 0x0B and 0x0C (serial port). I'm not sure if I'm using
them in a correct way. I'm combining both in the same program in this
way:
        * the serial port interrupt is obvius: it start when arrives
something to the serial port. I get the functions from a program
called SERIAL.C (Do you know it?)
        *the clock interupt: I use it in order to control if a byte arrives
to the port during a certain time.
        On my desktop the program and interrupts work well but not on my
palmtop.

        If anybody has used these interupts I could explain my problem in
detail but at this moment I would like knowing if those interrupts
are the same for my desktop (486) and for my palmtop. And also if
there is a problem with priorities I needed how to set them.

        Thanks in advance to everybody

                                Miguel
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Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I.Telecomunicacion
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Universidad Politecnica de Madrid (Spain)
Tel: +34 - 1 - 549 57 00 Ext: 332
Fax: +34 - 1 - 336 73 19
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:14:52 -0500
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Tim S. wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: phone database on my desktop
>
> >On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Rudy Moore wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any way to read 200lx phone databases on my desktop computer?  I
> >> currently do a backup of the C partition onto my desktop at work and on
> >> those rare days when I forget my 200LX, it'd be nice to be able to use
> >> it in a pinch.  (q only goes so far)
> >
>
> I used gdbio to export the phone book to my Outlook  Express address book as
> a CDF file, it worked quite well.
>
> -Tim
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Did you do any special remapping? Do you use all of the fields? Are any
of the field definitions different?

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:35:27 +0500
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Hello all,

Some of you may have noticed that the Palmtop Network web site has
been off-line for a day or so. Mitch's server had a disk drive crash
yesterday morning, and he's now in the process of rebuilding the
machine. Hopefully all will be back to normal tomorrow evening. Mitch
has already restored the Web site content, and that looks to be in
good shape. Also he notes that if you need software from the SUPER
site, you can get it through good old raw FTP at
  ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/

And Mitch does seem to be in good spirits, esp. considering what a
hassle rebuilding a crashed machine can be. He'd tell you himself but
this list won't accept mail from his @one.net address...

-Peter

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Hi Folks,
My '200LX has been a real help for me.  The only area where I still get =
blind-sided is holidays.  It would be really great if holidays were =
automatically "scheduled" so they would show up in the month-at-a-glance =
view of the appointment calendar.  Are there any programs that do this?  =
Other clever solutions?  Thanks, Bill

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Does someone know of a *good* shell for PKzip 2.04g?  Shez just looks
too big.
---
Finger btw@vnet.net for my PGP key
           Alba gu brath!

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Bill Rodgers wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> My '200LX has been a real help for me.  The only area where I still get blind-sided is holidays.  It would be really great if holidays were automatically "scheduled" so they would show up in the month-at-a-glance view of the appointment calendar.  Are there any programs that do this?  Other clever solutions?  Thanks, Bill
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Someone (my apologies to the author for forgetting the name) has created
an appointment database of holidays which you can merge into your
appointment book.  I think it's on the SUPER site and is called
Holidays.zip.  Someone else can probably help with the exact location
and filename.

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:39:42 -0500
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Gavin Hui <gavin@INFORAMP.NET> wrote:

>I just bought a new set of Radio Shack Hi-Cap Nicads (manufactured by Go).
>They initially had a charge of 2.67 V which quickly ran down to 2.45 after
>a couple of hours use (20 Meg Verbatim Flash, no modem, not
>double-clocked). So I charged them up again, both with the built-in
>software, and also with the ABC/LX demo software, and both times, only got
>up to about 2.7 V. Is this normal or did I get a bad batch?
>
>Gavin
>_____
>Gavin Hui                      "Shared despair is squared;
>gavin@inforamp.net    shared hope is cubed (or better)."
>Mississauga, ON                               -Lady Sally McGee
>CANADA
Gavin,

I've been using the Radio SLack Hi-Cap batteries in my 100LX for years, and
they're great - they last much longer than ordinary NiCds.

Like all NiCds, they put out only 1.2 to 1.25 volts each, so if you're getting a
voltage reading of more than 2.4 to 2.5 vots for the pair, you've got some
really good ones! The important number (and what makes them so long-lasting) is
the milliamp/hour rating. HiCaps are rated at 850 mAh, whereas regulars NiCds
are only 500 or 600 mAh if I remember correctly.

(By the way, have you got any good LOCAL sources of low-cost HP-LXs and
accessories?)

Bruce Martin (Office: bruce_martin@manulife.com    Home: bt511@torfree.net)
Mississauga , ON, Canada

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:54:53 -0800
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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, B Wills wrote:

> Does someone know of a *good* shell for PKzip 2.04g?  Shez just looks
> too big.

I've been using ZipRay from the SUPER site ( http://www.palmtop.net  tho
an earlier post seemed to indicate the site was down at the moment). ZR is
fairly minimal, mostly a viewer for zipped files (shows the files in the
archives, allows you to extract them or view them via a text browser).

ZR is small (14k), but requires pkzip/pkunzip/list.com to do all its work,
so I don't know how much smaller it is than Shez.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:23:26 -0500
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Well, it was not a fun Sunday, but the server is running again.

All of the palmtop goodies were backed up, but I expect to be working
some bugs out of the server mechanisms for days. Some of the glimpse
searching
and parsing stuff is hosed at present, but that's minor. I will try to
get it
back in line over the next week.

Thanks for the patience and your continued support and help with the
site.

Best regards,

Mitch

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:35:03 +0800
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Is there a program to write HTML document so that I can read them in HV?

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:36:14 +0100
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Hi, listers! I'm writing you for the first time. I know I'm not the first one
to come up with this question, but I didn't understand the answers I had read.
I have a problem. I would love to use AUTOCAD 2.6 (1.5MB) on 200LX. I started
it, but it seems that there's a problem with CGA graphic card. Considering the
fact that this programme have already been working on a desk-top computer
containing CGA graphic card, I wonder why it won't work on a palm-top computer,
which is also said to have a CGA compatible graphic card. Do you know something
about it and can you help me? I'm desperate!


Greetings, Dejan, Belgrade, Yugoslavia

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Date:         Sun, 9 Nov 1997 23:39:02 -0800
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At the risk of pursuing a topic that was flogged to death:

CE's have infiltrated my 200LX, and now they're invading simple household
items... My wife's "Winnie the Pooh" coffe mug had "CE" emblazoned on the
bottom!  Needles to say, when I saw it, I smashed the offending cup into
oblivion!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled list...

Bill (totally whacked out on antihistamines)

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:29:43 -0800
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I'd be very eager to see a Unix os on the LX.  I know a great number of
people who would love this as well.  One idea that my friends and I have
had is to allow the LX rom based programs to run on top of the unix os
as a sort of shell.  Perhaps one could switch back and forth using
alt-f1 ala Linux. ???
Another great feature would be to have hooks from unix into the LX appt
database with cron.

Sound cool?  I think so.

.M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kiyoshi Akima ÝSMTP:kakima@USA.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 1997 8:10 AM
> Subject:      Re: Load Different O/S
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier post to this list I'm considering porting
> Minix to the LX. Thus far, I haven't had the time or the spare flash
> card to do much in this direction. And the responses I have(n't)
> gotten from this list indicate that there isn't any interest out there
> in my doing this.
>
> Another possibility is ELKS, the Embedded Linux Kernel System, but
> it's an embedded system. If you want your LX to control your microwave
> oven and your VCR, it could be ideal.
>
> Kiyoshi Akima
> kakima@usa.net
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:01:06 -0600
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              APPMGR.DATfile.
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I tried to find my previous work on removing unwanted "permanent" apps
but was unable to do so.  So in an attempt to recreate the procedure I
found a simpler way to do it.  I was not able to find a way using
built-in software (unless you know how to use Debug, I don't).  The
following is a list of locations or "addresses" for each application in
the APPMGR.DAT file.

A four step process is used to remove an application (permanent or
non-permanent).
1.) Edit the APPMGR.DAT file using the instructions below.
2.) Replace the existing APPMGR.DAT file with the new (edited) file.
3.) Restart the palmtop without letting the PIM "see" the new file.
    (I am not sure this step is required, but I am a little paranoid
about
     messing around in my palmtop, so I do this to be safe.)
4.) Remove the "remnant" Icon from the Application Manager's screen.

 APP  offset
 ---  -------
 01   003 hex     The list of HEX addresses to the left are the
locations
 02   076 hex     of the first character in each application "slot" in
the
 03   0E9 hex     APPMGR.DAT file.  The next 114 characters comprise the
 04   15C hex     "content" of one application listing or "entry".
 05   1CF hex
 06   242 hex     Step 1.
 07   2B5 hex      note: back-up back-up back-up!
 08   328 hex      Transfer your APPMGR.DAT file to where you intend to
do
 09   39B hex      your editing.  Open the file and find the application
you
 10   40E hex      want to remove.  Using the list to the left, find the
starting
 11   481 hex      point for your chosen application.  Example:  I found
Setup
 12   4F4 hex      listed as &Setup at location 73E hex.  The closest
value
 13   567 hex      from the list that proceeds this address is 733 hex.
This
 14   5DA hex      location (733 hex) is the starting point for the
application
 15   64D hex      (Setup in this case) in this "slot".  To complete
step one,
 16   6C0 hex      change 734 hex and all the characters following, up
to but
 17   733 hex      not including 7A6 hex to 00 (hex).
 18   7A6 hex
 19   819 hex     Step 2.
 20   88C hex      Delete the APPMGR.DAT file from c:\_dat in your
palmtop.
 21   8FF hex      Copy the new (edited) APPMGR.DAT file to the c:\_dat
 22   972 hex      directory on your palmtop.  Do not access the
Application
 23   9E5 hex      Manager with this new APPMGR.DAT file!
 24   A58 hex
 25   ACB hex     Step 3.
 26   B3E hex      Reboot your palmtop or start the PIM (type 200).
 27   BB1 hex
 28   C24 hex     Step 4.
 29   C97 hex      Press "&..." (More "blue" key) and look for the
application
 30   D0A hex      you intended to remove.  In it's place you will see
an Icon that
 31   D7D hex      has no program name and might not even be the Icon
that was
 32   DF0 hex      in that location before you started.  Press the F4
key to
 33   E63 hex      delete this "bogus" Icon.  You may now install
another
 34   ED6 hex      application using the normal installation methods.
 35   F49 hex
 36   FBC hex
 37   102F hex

I am open to questions, but send them to the List, it might save others
from asking the same thing.

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:27:54 -1
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Subject:      Nettamer & exp modem/flash

Than you all for (trying) helping me out. I tried setting up the temp.dir om
the system RAM (i.e. c:-drive) Now everything works fine for me. Now I see
another problem is solved. Read messages are no longer marked unred. NICE!

I think this has to do with the fact (I heard) some kinds of flash will only
accept appending data at the end of the used part of memory. I think
nettamer tries to change the mail-files and doesn't write an other copy of
the file and afterwards delete the old copy.
Anyone found other apps running only from c:-drive and not from flash?

Greetigs,
Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Comments: cc: TeresaJ53@AOL.COM

On 1997-11-09 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Is there a driver that will allow infrared file, NOT printer, but
   >file transfer between  the IR HP200LX and a IRDA Laptop ?   YES or
   >NO......   IF YES,  where is this driver software? and what is the
   >setup (ports, connectivity pack, etc.) for file transfer.
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You can use serctl. This should be in ROM. Otherwise use LXPro to select the

way of serial comm. from your HP. (see S.U.P.E.R.-sote)
On your notebook you'll need to set up the IR-port. This may give some
problems. If you are using Win'95 see the file W95IR.EXE. You can use this
file after you have setup the IR-port in the bios. Afterwards you can
install the HP-connectivity-pack, or from the super-site w32____. (don't
know the exact name).

Hope this helps. (I use an 700lx which has IRDA-drivers in ROM, called
lamptsr.com and comtsr.com.)

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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There is also ASIC500.zip on Simtel (330k, July '96)which is a basic
subset compiler. Last time I looked at it, it porduced tiny DOS applications.

Ian Butler wrote:

> Why not QuickBASIC 4.5?  It's Visual Basic for DOS without
>
> the extra fluff.  So is PowerBASIC -- it's a very good interpreter/
>
> compiler, and it costs a little over $100.  They've got a trial version
>
> called FirstBASIC which is a fairly good subset of PowerBASIC
>
> but doesn't have file loading capabilities -Glen Bergs wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos anywhere. I
> think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where I
> could get a copy?
>

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 Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM> wrote:

>I have two 200 LXes and neither has a crack. They are from 1994. I think

>they use the kind of plastic in those that is used on police radios, it

>
just has that look, and I've had a couple of the old Motorola "H.T."

>radios and the plastic looked very similar. This is a VERY tough

>plastic, and I never did see one of those radios with a broken case.


The HPLX's plastic is of ABS type plastic that is used in motorcycle
helmet, Apple II gs (!) computer, Apple Mac mouse, keyboard etc...etc...

I've been using my HP 200LX from 1995 and it doesn't have any crack yet.

Pablo KIM
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Hi!


Please, it's not a message against our HPLX palmtop but just an idea to
compliment our HP.

Anyone with more USR PalmPilot experience  can do a list with pros and
cons
of this machine?
Because my client have been showing it for me and later I have been in a
PalmPilot shareware web site and with a lot of software. (maybe the bigger
software base of any palmtop except HP )

Personally, the PalmPilot would be a perfect companion to HP for it's size
and (most important)  it's backlighting.
It's annoying see phone database of my HP while driving my car at night.
(sometimes in daylight)


Until now the cons of Palmpilot discovered by me are:

-Lack of PCMCIA

-Memory upgrading to 4mb max. internally and nothing externally.

-Lack of IR port.

And the pros are:
-Very cheap!!!
-A lot of the software with GUI type menu.
-Obviously BACKLIGHTING!!!
-Very little to fit my shirt pocket.
-Easy file sync on Win95 and Mac only.(I would like to do it between my HP
and my future PalmPilot)
-Acceptably quick!


But I hate others palmtop like:
-WINCE: because I4m very alergic to Windows from 1989. (I'm a die-hard Mac
user and my connectivity Pack is   running from an Powermac 4400 with
VirtualPC emulator software.) :-)
-PSION: A Sharp or Casio but a bit better? Yes!!!
-NEWTON: Very big and It's a torture to typing on its little onscreen
keyboard.

And the common things of above are that they have very little software
base.

It would be a great idea something like a transfer software between both
palmtops; HPLX and Palmpilot.

Thanks a lot and long life to HPLX..!

Pablo KIM
hyunspak@movi.com.ar



PD: Although one day is going  to appear a "very powerful" palmtop my HPLX
then and forever  will be settled on my office desktop to serve me at
least
like a Remote control, Alarm clock, Calendar, Agenda or
Tetris game machine.
HPLX:  So much palmtop for the rest of us.

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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:00:37 +0800, Chong Chneah wrote:

ch> Can you please explain it to me? I had been trying to rid the icons =
so that
ch> I can use the alphabets to start other programs.

Most of the original icons cannot be removed or renamed (only H&B,
CCMade and Demo can be altered/deleted). However you may re-use an
assigned shortcut key - the one closest to the top is the one that
gets launched when you hit the shortcut...

If you want to keep the already assigned shortcuts then try using a
second menuing program from sysmgr such as SMMx or HDM (the latter =
is
available on www.palmtop.net/super.html - not sure about the former).
SMMx will launch dos apps as well as exm's.

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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:36:41 -0500, Bill Rodgers <rodgersb@MS.COM> =
wrote:

ro> My '200LX has been a real help for me.  The only area where I still =
get
ro> blind-sided is holidays.  It would be really great if holidays =
were
ro> automatically "scheduled" so they would show up in the month-at-a-glan=
ce
ro> view of the appointment calendar.  Are there any programs that =
do this?
ro> Other clever solutions?

Bill how do you enter holidays at present? If you enter them as events
rather than appointments they will *all* be visible in the month view =
-
each with a tiny 'x' next to the event. You can then merge in a great
holiday database (on super I think) that helps you keep track of the
most popular religious and bank holidays...

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Sorry about the line registration, I forgot about the List's habit of
modifying the posts to fit a palmtop screen.

Phil
>

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Gavin,
        A nicad battery's nominal voltage is about 1.2 per cell. So when it's
fully charged it will be a bit higher, but then drifts back down to near
1.2 while in use. I don't know that 2.7 would be anything to worry about
for a set of charged batteries, but there may be other feedback about
this from the list. The real test is how long do they run the palmtop.

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles


Gavin Hui wrote:
>
> I just bought a new set of Radio Shack Hi-Cap Nicads (manufactured by Go).
> They initially had a charge of 2.67 V which quickly ran down to 2.45 after
> a couple of hours use (20 Meg Verbatim Flash, no modem, not
> double-clocked). So I charged them up again, both with the built-in
> software, and also with the ABC/LX demo software, and both times, only got
> up to about 2.7 V. Is this normal or did I get a bad batch?
>
> Gavin
> _____

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> Anyone with more USR PalmPilot experience  can do a list with pros and
> cons

It's not really correct to compare these machines as being in the same category
of handheld computers. I have both and use both, but they have very different
capabilities and target user audiences.

> -Lack of IR port.

This is in the testing and hacking phase:

http://members.aol.com/gmayhak/tcl/irda.htm

Your other observations were good and most of them come from the fact that the
Pilot is aimed at a different type of user.

Mitch

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Subject:      Re: A newbie.

Hola!

It does seem to be a bad contact problem between "ribbon cable" and it's
socket.
I have had same problem but with my Apple notebook that I have solved
cleaning the contacts and reconnecting.
All that you have to do is opening gently your palmtop first. But I suggest
you be  very careful doing  it.
First of all make backup of your palmtop.
I have seen something about opening HP palmtop in some HP web site but I
don't remember...

Muchas suerte...

Pablo
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Andres Kievsky <ank@STRIKE.COM.AR> wrote:
>    I have a little problem on the 200LX: two vertical lines are missing
>(i can't see any dots on it), but they appear again when i press hardly
>on the left side of the screen. Any help? (Note: I have no guarranty
>left)

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>If anybody has used these interupts I could explain my problem in
>detail but at this moment I would like knowing if those interrupts
>are the same for my desktop (486) and for my palmtop. And also if
>there is a problem with priorities I needed how to set them.

The timer interrupt is used to generate a timeout in case of delays or
errors in the transmission.  The serial interrupt is generated every time=

something arrives at the port.

If you are just writing a terminal emulator, you do not really need to us=
e
the timer interrupt as a few errors are irrelevant. For things like
x/y/zmodem and the like - where even a single wrong byte in a packet woul=
d
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y
need to check for timeouts. If you have a scripting language you need the=

timeout to avoid waiting indefinitely for some non-event. =


The interrupts are exactly the same for any 80x86/8088/pentium.
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Steve Carder wrote:

I have one question: What about doublespeed upgraged computers? Are some
of these tests going to work properly if it's been upgraded? Such as the
timers? Ram?

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

>
> The HP200LX self test is started thus:  close all your programs
> and applications down.  Turn the palmtop off.  Hold down the ESC
> key while turning it on.  You can now select tests from the
> menu.  The serial port test requires connecting some of the pins
> to each other, so you can't do it without more equipment.  The
> RAM card test is for SRAM cards, not Flash cards.  It can trash
> Flashcards.  The keyboard test requires pressing the keys in
> order.  Start with ESC and go across to ON, now do TAB across to
> Right Arrow and so on until you get to +.  None of the tests
> should trash your C: drive, but backups are always a good idea.
> The palmtop reboots when you are done
>
> Steve Carder ÝS_Carder@compuserve.com¨

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For Sale
HP200LX 1MB (with manual)
5MB (uncompressed) IBM PC-Card
Megahertz 14.4 Data/Fax PC-Card modem (with manual)
2 AC adapters
2 Serial cables
Intellisync software (with manual)
Nylon Case

Excellent condition (slightly less than one year old)
$300.00

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I'd be grateful for any answers to two questions:-

1. Does anyone know who's giving the best price at the moment on Info
Select for the 200LX?

2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
(diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS for the
200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that info again!

Many thanks

Dr Peter Maddern
Product Developer
North Wales, UK.

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Stan Peters wrote:
>
> There is also ASIC500.zip on Simtel (330k, July '96)which is a basic
> subset compiler. Last time I looked at it, it porduced tiny DOS applications.
>
select from the list at:
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/home/fischer/simtel.net/msdos/basic-bydate.html

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:27:32 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>If anybody has used these interupts I could explain my problem in
>detail but at this moment I would like knowing if those interrupts
>are the same for my desktop (486) and for my palmtop. And also if
>there is a problem with priorities I needed how to set them.

The timer interrupt is used to generate a timeout in case of delays or
errors in the transmission.  The serial interrupt is generated every time=

something arrives at the port.

If you are just writing a terminal emulator, you do not really need to us=
e
the timer interrupt as a few errors are irrelevant. For things like
x/y/zmodem and the like - where even a single wrong byte in a packet woul=
d
be a serious problem (eg a byte wrong in a pkzipped file) - you definitel=
y
need to check for timeouts. If you have a scripting language you need the=

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The interrupts are exactly the same for any 80x86/8088/pentium.
 =

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:28:58 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Crack? What crack...?
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     Hi!
     Here is my serial #SG71600560 and it cracked in less then two WEEKS.

     Helmut in Colorado



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Author:  Non-HP-lloo (lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/9/97 11:03 AM


On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Irving Ian Liao wrote:

> Now that Jorgen has come forward saying his sets are fine...I've finally
> got the guts to say that mine is too!  I thought I was one of those who
> coudn't identify it, but now I realise that really there's nothing
> there...I feel around for plastic fatigue but there's none really...it's
> quite sturdy really... .
> Serial No.: SG70202801
>  So is it really a design flaw...or is my palmtop not worn in enuff??

Most seem to get the infamous crack several months after purchase. Mine
cracked at around 5 months. I see from your serial number that it's a '97
model so it's fairly new, and maybe it's just a matter of time...

Then again, you could be lucky.

- Longden

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Double-Speed fix in Europe ?
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SD>Where in Europe can I get the double-speed upgrade ?
  >What are your experiences with it ?
  >and how much did it cost ?
  >How long did it take ?

I don't know where in Europe, but I bought a "refurbished" 8meg
doublespeed from Thaddeus, www.thaddeus.com or orders@thaddeus.com.
Price was $575 and it looks brand new to me.  It took me 2 weeks to get
it.

Jim

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Subject:      Desqview works great on the 200LX!
Content-Type: text

     A week or so ago someone posted here about using Desqview on the
200LX.  I tried it aand it workd GREAT!  You do *not* need a 386 to run
Desqview.  Just as Desqview allows you to run MS Windows in a separate
Desqview Window, I have it running System MGR in a DV window.  I'm
doing it on a double speed 8MB 200LX so your mileage may vary...

     That said, since most of the apps I run are SYSMGR compliant, or
at least functional since adding MaxDos, I'm not sure I really NEED DV
on my Palmtop.  Anyway, it works!

Jim

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Subject:      8MB Doublespeed LX
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AK>    I own one HP200LX. I love the machine, but i have some problems: I
  >live in Argentina, and the palmtop is the 1MB model. There's no company
  >here that sells memory upgrades for the machine or CPU upgrades. Also,
  >the Hewlett-Packard technical service is meant for printers, and they
  >have little or no information on handheld computing. I've asked for
  >information in Times2Tech, and I think i'll have to send they my HP for
  >the 8MB upgrade. Anyone of you have ever made 8MB upgrade?

I used a 1M 100LX for 4 years, and 2-3 weeks ago I got my 8meg double
speed 200LX from Thaddeus for $575 (re-furbished, not new).  I
absolutely LOVE it!

Jim

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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:36:14 +0100, Dejan Radic <dradic@SEZAMPRO.YU> =
wrote:

dr> I would love to use AUTOCAD 2.6 (1.5MB) on 200LX. I started
dr> it, but it seems that there's a problem with CGA graphic card.

Nice hearing from you, Dejan. Have you by chance looked at
DraftChoice? This is a full-featured cad program written for the hp
palmtops and is the best choice for this type of work on the 200lx =
in
my humble opinion. It will read and write dxf files so sharing data
w/autocad is no problem. I believe that it can be found on super.

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PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:

>      A week or so ago someone posted here about using Desqview on the
> 200LX.  I tried it aand it workd GREAT!  You do *not* need a 386 to
> run
> Desqview.  Just as Desqview allows you to run MS Windows in a separate
>
> Desqview Window, I have it running System MGR in a DV window.  I'm
> doing it on a double speed 8MB 200LX so your mileage may vary...

Where did you find Desqview?  What version is it?  Do you know how it
compares to Software Carousel?

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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:11:00,
       jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)  Wrote:

>      A week or so ago someone posted here about using Desqview
> on the 200LX.  I tried it aand it workd GREAT!  You do *not*
> need a 386 to run Desqview...

Which version of Desqview were you running? How fast did it switch
between windows? Any corrupted data, garbled screens, etc...

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 18:17:17 -0500
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              Scott Barrett <sbarrett@CONCENTRIC.NET>
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I have the Quatech card and it works fine.  I have used it to print and
also to connect to my race car(used for ECM info recording).  On the
disk there should be a directory specifically for the HP200 programs.  I
just put these into a different autoexec program and run it whenever I
need to use the port.  Works great.

later,
scott

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:54:59 +1300
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Jim Smith wrote:
> Someone (my apologies to the author for forgetting the name) has created
> an appointment database of holidays which you can merge into your
> appointment book.  I think it's on the SUPER site and is called
> Holidays.zip.  Someone else can probably help with the exact location
> and filename. > Jim
> --------------------------------------------
Hi Jim
Murray Barton hosts the HP Palmtops Database Repository
at   http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hp_db.html

holidays.zip (4k) added 27/01/97
Created by Robert Kreisler
Holidays database for merging with your appointment book.

cheers
John
NZ

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 18:55:00 -0500
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      HTML editors
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CH>Is there a program to write HTML document so that I can read them in HV?

     You can do it with *ANY* text editor, such as Memo, as long as you
know HTML codes.  I wrote my first web page with VDE..........

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:06:26 -0300
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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      tip for printing

Maybe this tip seems a bit stupid....but i'll share it anyway...

if you print a lot through DOS, not sysmgr, maybe you have some troubles
with different kind of printers, different bauds, and that kind of stuff

in my work, we have at least 10 different printers, all of them
different, so i've to configure and re-configure all the time.

so after a while....and idea came to me.... :)

a simple bat file...

---------------------
mode com1 9600 N 8 1
---------------------


and i called this bat file....epson.bat

and i've make different bat files, with the configurations of each
printer

example : epson.bat
          lexmark.bat
          kyocera.bat
          etc....


if i've to print on another printer, i just type the name of the
printer....and voila !....i have my com1 configured well


best regards....


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Subject:      Re: Info Select for DOS on HP200LX
Comments: To: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>

Text of message from pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK, 10 Nov 1997, 04:00 PM
> I'd be grateful for any answers to two questions:-
>
> 1. Does anyone know who's giving the best price at the moment on Info
> Select for the 200LX?

I have it and use it. I don't think anyone sells it except the publisher
(MicroLogic).  Also, it's not just for the LX but for DOS (not SysMgr
aware).
>
> 2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
> (diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS for the
> 200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that info again!

I would consider using GDBIO, but remember that IS does not have fielded
data.

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Ian Melville wrote:
>
> On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:36:14 +0100, Dejan Radic <dradic@SEZAMPRO.YU> wrote:
>
> dr> I would love to use AUTOCAD 2.6 (1.5MB) on 200LX. I started
> dr> it, but it seems that there's a problem with CGA graphic card.
>
> Nice hearing from you, Dejan. Have you by chance looked at
> DraftChoice? This is a full-featured cad program written for the hp
> palmtops and is the best choice for this type of work on the 200lx in
> my humble opinion. It will read and write dxf files so sharing data
> w/autocad is no problem. I believe that it can be found on super.

I've tried to run Acad 2.6 and R10 on the HP200LX with no luck because
of the nonstandard CGA mode.  Selecting an EGA driver gives the text
menus, but no graphics area.  I've checked out Draft Choice, but there
doesn't seem to be any equivalent to the ACAD ID command, which can
identify points of intersection and radius centers which I need for
CNC programming.  It seems to me an AUTOLISP HPLX driver might be
possible, but I know nothing of that language.  I checked out Paldraw,
too, but that seemed useless to the point of futility.

David

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        There ARE 386-specific variants on Desqview.
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:17:26 -0800
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What is FCL, and where can it be found?  I haven't been able find it
despite much searching on the web.

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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:25:18 -0500
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Has anyone had success with compressing *part* of a removeable disk
(flashcard) on the palmtop while leaving the uncompressed portion as
an available drive letter? Stacker appears to only mount removeable
disks with the same drive letter as the host - hiding the host in the
process.

If anyone has been able to do this with either stacker or jam please
share your tips... <g>

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Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT> wrote:

> Has anyone had success with compressing *part* of a removeable disk
> (flashcard) on the palmtop while leaving the uncompressed portion=
 as
> an available drive letter?
>
> If anyone has been able to do this with either stacker or jam please
> share your tips... <g>

Hi Ian & group-

This is easy with JAM.  During creation of the JAM archive one of the
parameters is the archive size.  On the palmtop, the uncompressed part
appears as drive A: - the compressed part becomes the first free drive
letter (usually F:).   Been a while since I set this up un my 15Mb
card, so I can't remember the details, but it's all in the docs.

PR
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David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> wrote:

> What is FCL, and where can it be found?  I haven't been able find=
 it
> despite much searching on the web.

FCL is Gilles Kohl's Font Loader/Compiler.  Compiles your created fonts
into a TSR that replaces the existing palmtop fonts.

AFAIK - You can't find the shareware version because the author doesn't
want to distribute it.  (Folks weren't registering).  Used to be
available on CompuServe.

The author is: Gilles Kohl  <100114.3146@CompuServe.COM>

You might want to check with him.

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>      A week or so ago someone posted here about using Desqview on the
> 200LX.  I tried it aand it workd GREAT!  You do *not* need a 386 to run
> Desqview.  Just as Desqview allows you to run MS Windows in a separate
> Desqview Window, I have it running System MGR in a DV window.  I'm
> doing it on a double speed 8MB 200LX so your mileage may vary...
>
>      That said, since most of the apps I run are SYSMGR compliant, or
> at least functional since adding MaxDos, I'm not sure I really NEED DV
> on my Palmtop.  Anyway, it works!

SO, is there a shareware/trial version of Desqview available anywhere?


--
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Where can one find JAM?

At 09:06 PM 11/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone had success with compressing *part* of a removeable disk
>> (flashcard) on the palmtop while leaving the uncompressed portion as
>> an available drive letter?
>>
>> If anyone has been able to do this with either stacker or jam please
>> share your tips... <g>
>
>Hi Ian & group-
>
>This is easy with JAM.  During creation of the JAM archive one of the
>parameters is the archive size.  On the palmtop, the uncompressed part
>appears as drive A: - the compressed part becomes the first free drive
>letter (usually F:).   Been a while since I set this up un my 15Mb
>card, so I can't remember the details, but it's all in the docs.
>
>PR
>---------
>
>Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
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>> 2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
>> (diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS for the
>> 200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that info again!

InfoSelect and the HP are a wonderful combination. I have been using them
for a couple of years.

You can transfer info from notes and memo files to Info Select using a
utility called "clipvue", which I think is on the SUPER site. It uses the
HP's clipboard "cut and paste" function in conjunction with InfoSelct's Disk
Import function. (You can go the other way as well from IS to Memo, etc.)

I haven't tried it but I suppose you could use the "clip" function to copy
PDB, GDB files to IS in the same way.


Alan

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Subject:      Re: Double-Speed fix in Europe ?
Comments: To: PALMTOPS@airgunhq.com

pls check

       www.times2tech.com

there is a european (german, actually) affiliate.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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  >>Where in Europe can I get the double-speed upgrade ? <<

Try Tom Rundel.  I am very happy with my speed upgrade, but I
live in the US.

 E-mail: info@rundel-d.com
 Web: http://www.rundel-d.com

Steve Carder ÝS_Carder@compuserve.com¨

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  >>I've asked for information in Times2Tech, and I think i'll
have to send they my HP for the 8MB upgrade. Anyone of you
have ever made 8MB upgrade? <<

I have an 8 Meg double speed 200LX with a Times2 Tech upgrade. =

Before that I was using a 5 Meg double speed 200LX from them.  I
liked them enough to use them again.  Go for it!  You will love
it.

Steve Carder ÝS_Carder@compuserve.com¨=

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What is ECM recording??? I have been curious about using my LX
as a superior car computer (logging milage, consumption, etc), but
haven't been able to find any info

Regards,
Paul Szilard



HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU on 11-11-97 09:24:54
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Subject: Quatech parallel port card


I have the Quatech card and it works fine.  I have used it to print and=

also to connect to my race car(used for ECM info recording).  On the
disk there should be a directory specifically for the HP200 programs.  =
I
just put these into a different autoexec program and run it whenever I
need to use the port.  Works great.

later,
scott

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For what it's worth, my Radio Shack Hi-Cap NiCads charge up to about 2.87V
before stalling, sometimes up to 2.93 or so if I totally discharge them in
a flashlight first.  I use ABC/LX to recharge, which won't slow down to
a trickle charge after 6 hrs (which I suspect is why you are not fully
charging your batteries).

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM> wrote:

> Where can one find JAM?

ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/NEW/jam125sw.zip

-PR
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Subject:      Re: USR PalmPilot ?

Hi!

Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> write with ">" :
>> Anyone with more USR PalmPilot experience  can do a list with pros and
>> cons
>
>It's not really correct to compare these machines as being in the same
category
>of handheld computers. I have both and use both, but they have very
different
>capabilities and target user audiences.
I agreed 100+1 %.!!!
My idea was doing a comparative table between two palmtops to get the pros
and cons that later will be help me in distribute "task" for both
palmtops.

Until now, my idea is something like:

1.HPLX:  my "aircraft carrier" that will carrying all personal information
data from my desktop PC. But not for use in front of eg. my clients.
Because it's very annoying reading info from my hp by it's lack of
backlighting and a bit less elegant to search my  data in this situation.

2.PalmPilot: my "F-18 jet" with it's information obtained from my HP via
IR
(if possible) I can take it to everyhwere!!!  Including to a night club or
discotheque and I'm still able to see my palmpilot screen but with a lot
more discretly. It's very comic (for me) open a WINCE palmtop and see the
guys around starting the "mini-press conference" about this.

>> -Lack of IR port.
>
>This is in the testing and hacking phase:
>http://members.aol.com/gmayhak/tcl/irda.htm
It's great!!!   A great hope to comunicate it with the HP.
Anyone can send me above "irda.htm" page?
Because I have to been left without access to WWW by my server problems.

If Palmpilot can afford a IR port and a memory exp.port then I could be
retiring my HPLX to my desktop as permanent agenda with its well deserved
pension...maybe a better power supply?  :-)

>Your other observations were good and most of them come from the fact
that
the
>Pilot is aimed at a different type of user.
Thank you and my idea is that the palmpilot compliment my HP palmtop in a
better and cheaper way. And I'm close to a Palmpilot more and more!!!

Regards.
Pablo KIM
hyunspak@movi.com.ar


PD: Do you know any Palmpilot specific listserv?

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Thanks for the info Phil. Now all we need is for some kind soul with time
on his/her hands to take all this information  and bundle it into a PAL
application...

Any volunteers?


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Martin, you would save some "disk" space if you wrote ONE batch file with
parameters:

print.bat %1:

if '%1= '1 got epson
if '%1= '2 goto lexmark


etc.

or you could even use the DOS 6 "ask" command to ask you to select a
printer. ( Assuming you have DOS 6 on a deshktop and can copy the file to
your palmtop)...

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Thanks for everyone's input into my question. I think that because of my
previous experience with rechargeable alkalines, I had been expecting a
much higher peak voltage, and for it to be time to change my new Nicads
when the voltage dropped below 2.45, when in fact they are still far from
empty. At what voltage should I start to get nervous?
_____
Gavin Hui                      "Shared despair is squared;
gavin@inforamp.net    shared hope is cubed (or better)."
Mississauga, ON                               -Lady Sally McGee
CANADA

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PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM said in the HPLX mail list recently -

> ... I have it running System MGR in a DV window.  I'm
> doing it on a double speed 8MB 200LX so your mileage may vary...

Hi there -

I use DESQview on my desktop and find it great.  I have considered
trying it out on my 200lx (2MB) but haven't as yet.

I would imagine that if you open a second window on the 200lx, DV likely
puts the window with System Manager into a swap file.

Is this the case?  And, do the alarms sound when swapped?

Brian
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As for Buddy, be sure you're setting up the right one

Buddy.exm is used to set options and is designed to be run from app manager

Buddy.com adds all the functions and must be run from dos before the sys
manager.  Adding it to autoexec.bat will cause it to be automatic.  The
installation instructions gives more detail.

----------
There are some applications that I am unable to execute when setting up
Icons under System Manger:

Buddy
Magnigy
Keybez.com

I must first "terminate all" and exit to DOS then invoke the programs.
Am I doing something wrong?

Les

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:57:42 -0500
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Subject:      Printer Drivers for Memo

I just got a good deal on a Canon BJC80 printer. It is a really neat portable
printer. I'd like to use it with my 200lx running Memo. Are there any drivers
for the Memo program?

Does anyone make a Serial-Parallel adapter that connects directly to the
200lx serial port?

Thanks
Dennis

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Subject:      Desqview works great on the 200LX!
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DA>> Desqview Window, I have it running System MGR in a DV window.  I'm
  >> doing it on a double speed 8MB 200LX so your mileage may vary...

DA>Where did you find Desqview?  What version is it?  Do you know how it
  >compares to Software Carousel?

I bought Desqview direct from Quarterdeck a few years ago to run my BBS
on.  I later upgraded to Desqview/x for the BBS (a whole 'nother story
and a FANTASTIC program).  I don't think it's been too long since
I've seen Desqview in Computer Super stores but I'm not sure if they
still market it.  You can find out all about Desqview in the FidoNet
DESQVIEW echo.  I never used Software Carousel so I can't compare them
directly but from what I've read I expect DV is the more capable
program.  On my BBS I can have 4 BBS nodes running, each in a separate
DV window, PLUS two DOS windows open, all at the same time with very
good performance.  My version of Desqview is 2.70 which I believe is
the latest version.

Jim


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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
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M1>Which version of Desqview were you running? How fast did it switch
  >between windows? Any corrupted data, garbled screens, etc...

Desqview 2.70.  The system manager screen would sometimes get
corrupted.  I didn't notice this with other applications though.

Jim

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BN>SO, is there a shareware/trial version of Desqview available anywhere?

It was always commercial software.  Probably Quarterdeck (they also
produce QEMM) has a web site, so check there. If they will no longer
sell it and they haven't released the copyright, then if you check in
FidoNet's DESQVIEW echo I'm sure someone there will be selling a used
copy. In fact, since DV has been the multi-tasker of choice for the BBS
community for so many years, that is where I'd look to buy a used copy.

Jim

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I'm using NiCads and after a charge, Lxpro reports over 2.8 v.
Within a couple hours use it is down to 2.5, from which it drifts
slowly to 2.38. Then it rather quickly get to 2.3 v., where I get beeps
from the LX that I have a low battery.

Normally I have charging disabled. When the NiCads get low I enable
charging (setup screen) and leave the LX plugged in for a couple of
times for six hour cycles (I have 700 mA batteries).

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Comments: To: ggrosshans@nsslgate.nssl.noaa.gov

It is an nice modem, but seems to me to (sometimes have troubble with some
kind of modems on the other end of the line. I had this with some kind of
2400 b modem. (not with faster modems.) I have 2 MB of flash. If you can
affort it, buy as much flash as possible (8MB i guess).


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Subject:      nettamer

I have another question about nettamer. It seems to quit its scripting-file
after a constant time with the message script-error. My internet provider
sends a lot of info when connecting. When I try to connect using my cellular
phone the script will quit before it is connected. I tried to insert some
delay. Doesn't help at all. Any sugestions?


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Subject:      Re: Compressing part of a rem.disk
Comments: To: Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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At 18:38 10/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Where can one find JAM?

http://oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net

and search the MSDOS index for JAM*.*

Regards. Nacho.

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Subject:      Re: Compressing part of a rem.disk
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Hi:

>Has anyone had success with compressing *part* of a removeable disk
>(flashcard) on the palmtop while leaving the uncompressed portion as
>an available drive letter? Stacker appears to only mount removeable
>disks with the same drive letter as the host - hiding the host in the
>process.

If I recall properly, what Stacker really does, is creating a new
compressed drive, and then ,swapping the real -uncompressed- and compressed
drive letters.

What I really dislike of Stacker is the obscure way it does it.

I actually use JAM. Seems an excellent piece of software to me. Yo must do
all manually, but because of that, you have total control over the
configuration. This is, of course, for people willing to read the manual.

What you do with JAM is, basically: installing the device driver, with
support for N drives (N as many as you want, but as low as possible in
order to save memory), then mount the drive (at this point you already have
access to a NEW drive letter, the compressed drive), and last, and only if
you want to, swap drive letters. The drive letter swap utility lets you do
almost ANYTHING, you can exchange ANY drive letters, not only pairs
pertaining to a real and compressed drives.

JAM is solid. Had no problems at all in months of intense use. And, -very
important for me-, uses only 25K of RAM, agains over 40K of Stacker.


Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 07:48:03 -0600
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On Mon, Nov 10, 1997 at 08:25:18PM -0500, Ian Melville wrote:
> Has anyone had success with compressing *part* of a removeable disk
> (flashcard) on the palmtop while leaving the uncompressed portion as
> an available drive letter? Stacker appears to only mount removeable
> disks with the same drive letter as the host - hiding the host in the
> process.
>
> If anyone has been able to do this with either stacker or jam please
> share your tips... <g>

I don't know if I have any "tips" but I used Jam to make a big file
(that I called "honker") on A: and used jmount to make it F:.  I can
still use A: with no problems.  It was a while ago that I did this
but I think I just followed the readme or doc file or whatever it
came with.  I don't remember ever using Stacker so I don't think I
should comment on that!  :/

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Have you checked to make sure the serial port power is off?

73 de KF4KGQ
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On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Stan Peters wrote:

> I'm using NiCads and after a charge, Lxpro reports over 2.8 v.
> Within a couple hours use it is down to 2.5, from which it drifts
> slowly to 2.38. Then it rather quickly get to 2.3 v., where I get beeps
> from the LX that I have a low battery.
>
> Normally I have charging disabled. When the NiCads get low I enable
> charging (setup screen) and leave the LX plugged in for a couple of
> times for six hour cycles (I have 700 mA batteries).
>
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Gavin Hui <gavin@INFORAMP.NET> wrote:

>   ...time to change my new Nicads when the voltage dropped below 2.45,
> when in fact they are still far from empty. At what voltage should=
 I
> start to get nervous?

I have ABC/LX set up to start charging at 2.36V.  This usually enables
recharging before the palmtop "Low Battery" warning shows up.  If you
look at a graph of NiCad cells discharge curve, you'll see that they
maintain almost a constant voltage through the cycle - between 1.2 and
1.25V.  The "knee" where rapid decline starts is at about 1.1V.  The=
 2
cells in the palmtop have probably barely started the useful part of
the cycle when reading 2.45V.

PR
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Is that the new little Canon that has an I/R port on it?  I'd sure like =
ot know if anyone has their 95/100/200 printing to one of those yet, =
particularly, a 100 like mine.

Ed Manuel
Houston
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I just got a good deal on a Canon BJC80 printer.=20

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Friends,

When I run the script to update the SUPER page, I see this trailing off as
it completes its work:

-------
3/06/97 is 250 days old

11/04/97 is 7 days old
Adding to NEW page.

11/11/96 is 365 days old

1/06/97 is 309 days old

1/14/97 is 301 days old

All done, no apparent errors.
-------

You will notice the third entry down shows the first set of files was added
exactly one year ago today. It doesn't seem like that long, but I guess it is.

So, let me give a hearty thanks to everyone who has contributed,
constructed, visited and supported the S.U.P.E.R Site during its first year.
Thanks especially to Jorgen, Peter, Toshiki and Fong for their continued help.

Best regards,

Mitch

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Peter, the answer to the first question is I think you have to buy theDOS
version direct from MicroLogic. Phone number in the US is201-342-6518. I think
it is not available from any of the resellers. Ibet the only reason MicroLogic
keeps selling it is because they haveextra copies still available of it. I bet
once those copies are sold,the DOS version will no longer be sold.

As to the second question, there are a couple of ways you could dothis. You
could use the DB Convert command which will convert each lineof an ascii file
into a separate window. Another idea would be cutitems, use Clipvue to put
them into a text file and then use the importcommand to move them into a
window. If you had some sort of advanced DOSmacro facility (I think a few have
been mentioned on the list before)you could automate this function.


>        Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>

>I'd be grateful for any answers to two questions:-

>1. Does anyone know who's giving the best price at the moment onInfo
>Select for the 200LX?

>2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
>(diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS forthe
>200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that infoagain!

>Many thanks

>Dr Peter Maddern
>Product Developer
North Wales, UK.



===
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----- forwarded message -----

From- ksford@nps.navy.mil (Kevin Ford)

Subscriber Comments: Hi-
I'm looking for a 200lx carrying case that will fit nicely
under my arm like a holster that an undercover policeman
would wear underneath a jacket or something.

The idea is that this would be a much more convenient place
for me to carry my palmtop than on a belt-pouch or something
similar.  I work in an industrial environment and having
the palmtop exposed on my belt (as opposed to protected
under my arm) would better meet my needs.

Thanks for any ideas.

Kevin


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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:22:05 -0500
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Greetings Fellow Palmtoppers:

        An error in the HPLX-L Archive Search routine was just pointed
out to me (Thanks Brian !) and has been fixed. Requested articles are
now accessible.

Cheers,


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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:28:49 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Happy Birthday S.U.P.E.R.

I had the opportunity to visit the S.U.P.E.R. site last weekend (first
visit).  I was very happy with what I found there, thanks!

Phil
>

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:34:24 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Has anyone besides me tried Win Filer (v0.02) with a modem?
I am using a Hayes Optima 2400 (ok, I know it's slow) and it works fine
for Hyperterminal to palmtop comm prog, but when I try Win Filer, the
carrier detect flashes on and off on the Hayes modem.  The connection is
obviously very flaky.  Any ideas, observations?

Phil

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:48:37 -0500
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              Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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>      A week or so ago someone posted here about using Desqview on the
> 200LX.  I tried it aand it workd GREAT!  You do *not* need a 386 to run
> Desqview.  Just as Desqview allows you to run MS Windows in a separate
> Desqview Window, I have it running System MGR in a DV window.  I'm
> doing it on a double speed 8MB 200LX so your mileage may vary...

What version of DV? How did you set it up to get SM to run? I couldn't get SM running under DV, nor DV under SM.

Kiyoshi Akima
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:36:31 -0600
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Compressing part of a rem.disk
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Diet (diet145f.zip on Simtel) also has its merits:
 - Files are compressed in place - no new drive letter involved. It is
    more of a manual operation as you use the DOS command line
    to compress files (e.g.:  "diet *.dbf"). It then replaces the uncompr=
essed
    file with the compressed version.
 - The TSR take 25K
 -  If you are transferring the file(s) from a faster machine, you could =
do the

    compression on the faster machine (which need not have Diet resident)

Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:

> Hi:
>
> >Has anyone had success with compressing *part* of a removeable disk
> >(flashcard) on the palmtop while leaving the uncompressed portion as
> >an available drive letter? Stacker appears to only mount removeable
> >disks with the same drive letter as the host - hiding the host in the
> >process.
>
> JAM is solid. Had no problems at all in months of intense use. And, -ve=
ry
> important for me-, uses only 25K of RAM, agains over 40K of Stacker.
>
> Regards. Nacho.
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:35:00 EST
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: S.U.P.E.R. Birthday
Comments: To: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

Text of message from mitch@PALMTOP.NET, 11 Nov 1997, 10:43 AM
>Ý...¨
> You will notice the third entry down shows the first set of files was
> added exactly one year ago today. It doesn't seem like that long, but I
> guess it is.
>
> So, let me give a hearty thanks to everyone who has contributed,
> constructed, visited and supported the S.U.P.E.R Site during its first
> year.  Thanks especially to Jorgen, Peter, Toshiki and Fong for their
> continued help.

Mitch, you and others deserve all of our kudos and gratitude for
providing an essential service to the LX palmtop community.  I am proud to
have been associated with you during some of the formative discussions on
the old list you ran.  You have done well and have rejuvinated and united
this community.  All of us who remember palmtopping in the ante-SUPER era
can best appreciate your work.

Thank you.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
 (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
 ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu

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Subject:      Re: LX "Holster"

Text of message from MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU, 11 Nov 1997, 11:21 AM
>
> Subscriber Comments: Hi-
> I'm looking for a 200lx carrying case that will fit nicely
> under my arm like a holster that an undercover policeman
> would wear underneath a jacket or something.
>
> The idea is that this would be a much more convenient place
> for me to carry my palmtop than on a belt-pouch or something
> similar.  I work in an industrial environment and having
> the palmtop exposed on my belt (as opposed to protected
> under my arm) would better meet my needs.

I have been using the Opus63 product for well over a year now and
wholeheartedly endorse it.  See http://www.opus63.com

Good luck.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
 (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
 ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:21:45 -0500
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              Mark Sailer <msailer@ML.COM>
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At 06:17 PM 11/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I have the Quatech card and it works fine.  I have used it to print and
>also to connect to my race car(used for ECM info recording).

Scott,
        Which ECM are you connecting to?  GM, FORD, Chrysler??
I haven't looked, but I presume the info on how to gather data and the
needed interface is available some where.
Details on your hook up would be appreciated.

Thanks

Mark Sailer
212-449-9351

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:30:32 -0800
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Comments: To: "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>

Very true, thanks y'all

> ----------
> From:         Daniel Z. Sands
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Daniel Z. Sands
> Sent:         Tuesday, November 11, 1997 9:35 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: S.U.P.E.R. Birthday
>
> Text of message from mitch@PALMTOP.NET, 11 Nov 1997, 10:43 AM
> >Ý...¨
> > You will notice the third entry down shows the first set of files
> was
> > added exactly one year ago today. It doesn't seem like that long,
> but I
> > guess it is.
> >
> > So, let me give a hearty thanks to everyone who has contributed,
> > constructed, visited and supported the S.U.P.E.R Site during its
> first
> > year.  Thanks especially to Jorgen, Peter, Toshiki and Fong for
> their
> > continued help.
>
> Mitch, you and others deserve all of our kudos and gratitude for
> providing an essential service to the LX palmtop community.  I am
> proud to
> have been associated with you during some of the formative discussions
> on
> the old list you ran.  You have done well and have rejuvinated and
> united
> this community.  All of us who remember palmtopping in the ante-SUPER
> era
> can best appreciate your work.
>
> Thank you.
>
> - Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>   ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
>  (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
>  ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:52:31 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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Where can one find the Quatech card?

karl

At 01:21 PM 11/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>At 06:17 PM 11/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have the Quatech card and it works fine.  I have used it to print and
>>also to connect to my race car(used for ECM info recording).
>
>Scott,
>        Which ECM are you connecting to?  GM, FORD, Chrysler??
>I haven't looked, but I presume the info on how to gather data and the
>needed interface is available some where.
>Details on your hook up would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mark Sailer
>212-449-9351
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:04:23 -0500
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Daniel Z. Sands wrote:
>
> Text of message from mitch@PALMTOP.NET, 11 Nov 1997, 10:43 AM
> >Ý...¨
> > You will notice the third entry down shows the first set of files was
> > added exactly one year ago today. It doesn't seem like that long, but I
> > guess it is.
> >
> > So, let me give a hearty thanks to everyone who has contributed,
> > constructed, visited and supported the S.U.P.E.R Site during its first
> > year.  Thanks especially to Jorgen, Peter, Toshiki and Fong for their
> > continued help.
>
> Mitch, you and others deserve all of our kudos and gratitude for
> providing an essential service to the LX palmtop community.  I am proud to
> have been associated with you during some of the formative discussions on
> the old list you ran.  You have done well and have rejuvinated and united
> this community.  All of us who remember palmtopping in the ante-SUPER era
> can best appreciate your work.
>
> Thank you.
>

Yes, a terrific job!

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:15:27 -0600
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              Ed Manuel <n5em@FLASH.NET>
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Did you MEAN to send us with that URL to a heavy metal, counterculture, NYC rock band home page?
I was actually interested in seeing the "holster" :-)
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I have been using the Opus63 product for well over a year now and
wholeheartedly endorse it.  See http://www.opus63.com

Good luck.

- Danny

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:26:49 -0500
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop Holster

----- forwarded message -----

You're looking for the Pocket Liberator-Palm Top Holster by Opus63.

Call: 1-718-706-6787

or write:

Opus63 Design Lab Inc.
43-49 10th Street, 3rd FL
L.I.C., N.Y. 11101


> I'm looking for a 200lx carrying case that will fit nicely
> under my arm like a holster that an undercover policeman
> would wear underneath a jacket or something.
>
> The idea is that this would be a much more convenient place
> for me to carry my palmtop than on a belt-pouch or something
> similar.  I work in an industrial environment and having
> the palmtop exposed on my belt (as opposed to protected
> under my arm) would better meet my needs.
>
> Please reply to ksford@nps.navy.mil in addition to posting.
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Kevin




----- end of forwarded message -----





Regards,

   ____
  / __ \  ____ ___  ____ _____
 / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
\___\_\/_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/_/ /_(_|_|_)

ÝhP¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Subject:      Still curious about Magnifing the screen.

I am curious if someone can explain how the built-in DSPCTL.COM file works. There was a recent post on this and it caught my interest. My objective it to use some sort of magnification for the screen. I have to use my 200LX continuously and often have to refer to it from a distance of 3'. Any suggestions? Is the "magnify" program that used to be sold by ACE (I think) any good?
How do y'all magnify the screen bsides the built-in Zoom feature?
Please pardon the repeated question. I wasn't sure if the original made it to the list?
Thanks,
Ken Moore

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Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
     Hi!
     Also from Colorado all the best and a thousand thanks to you Mitch and
     all the others.

     Best Regards
     Helmut in Colorado

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>        If anybody has used these interupts I could explain my problem in
>detail but at this moment I would like knowing if those interrupts
>are the same for my desktop (486) and for my palmtop. And also if
>there is a problem with priorities I needed how to set them.
>
>        Thanks in advance to everybody

The serial communciations library I programmed and I'm using extensively at
the moment, uses the timer IRQ (IRQ 0, INT 08h), and whatever interrupt
it's configured for the serial port (usually, but not always, IRQ 4, INT
0Ch for COM1 and IRQ 3, INT 0Bh for COM2). That library works with
absolutely no problem both in my desktop and in the HP200LX.

As far as I know (and I do a lot of low level programming), there's no
tricky difference between interrupts implementation in the HP200LX and a
normal PC. It's got a 8259 interrupt controller like a PC. There's some
tricky stuff about how the keyboard interrupt is generated and processed,
and there are some special interrupts, but nothig of that should affect the
interrupt processing for the IRQs you're using.

1- Check that the COM port is enabled under dos (go to the Setup).
2- Check that COM1 address is 3F8h and IRQ is 4 (Setup also).

There's something else: serial port initialization is quite tricky
according to my experience. Depending of how you do it, It may or may not
work depending on the previous port state (or even previous interrupt
controller state). And normally, it's determined by BIOS' own
initialization routines. Maybe your initialization routines are't fine.

I've had tons of headaches because of this, but at the moment I'm pretty
sure that I do it properly (that library I mentioned has been fully tested
for months in at least 10 different machines, including the 200LX). I
cannot release the library nor the source because it belongs to my company
(it's part of my work), but if you submit me your code, I'll have a look to
it, or could send you the initialization part of my library.

Saludos. Nacho.

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>Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem are all great games!!! I wonder if there are any
>old copies of these programs that can run on a HP 200LX (or a similar game)??

You're kidding, aren't you ?

Regards. Nacho.

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Comments: To: Ed Manuel <n5em@FLASH.NET>

How embarrassing!  This URL used to point to the company from which I
bought my Pocket Liberator holster.  I wonder if they're still in
business?

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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>
> Did you MEAN to send us with that URL to a heavy metal, counterculture,
> NYC rock band home page? I was actually interested in seeing the
> "holster" :-)
> ----------
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>
> I have been using the Opus63 product for well over a year now and
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Comments: To: lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM

Magnify! is a good product and was picked up by Shier when Ace went out
of business.  It magnifies a small window which you can move around.  I
like it and use it.  I also use the built-in zoom function.  They are
complementary.  I don't use DISPCTL.

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Text of message from: KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM,
             written: on Tue, 11 Nov 1997 at 03:11 PM
> I am curious if someone can explain how the built-in DSPCTL.COM file
> works. There was a recent post on this and it caught my interest. My
> objective it to use some sort of magnification for the screen. I have to
> use my 200LX continuously and often have to refer to it from a distance
> of 3'. Any suggestions? Is the "magnify" program that used to be sold by
> ACE (I think) any good? How do y'all magnify the screen bsides the
> built-in Zoom feature? Please pardon the repeated question. I wasn't
> sure if the original made it to the list? Thanks, Ken Moore

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:21:22 -0600
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If you want an example of how one of these games might (if they could)
work on an HP, play the built-in Lair-of-Squid (Maze) game.  As am
alternative, look for a copy of Wolfenstein.  I believe it was
shareware, and might be old enough so as to be "unaware" of faster
machines (unaware as in written before 286/386/etc.).

Phil

>----------
>From:  Ignacio Garc=EDa  P=E9rezÝSMTP:igp@vlc.servicom.es¨
>Sent:  Monday, November 10, 1997 2:58 PM
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>Subject:       Re: Quake, Doom or Duke Nukem- on the 200LX????
>
>>Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem are all great games!!! I wonder if there =
are any
>>old copies of these programs that can run on a HP 200LX (or a similar
>>game)??
>

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:33:24 GMT
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Happy birthday to S.U.P.E.R

I guess I pop in at least once a week (just to make sure the youngster
behaves itself you understand).

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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I know nothing.  Now that I have said that, and considering your comment
about low level programming, would you entertain a concept for a moment?
 I have been wondering if it might be possible to send usable
information to a standard TTL mono monitor using a parallel port.  The
idea is to provide an output for fairly static information without
monopolizing the system's main display.  Comments would be appreciated.

Phil

>----------
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>Sent:  Monday, November 10, 1997 3:10 PM
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>
><snip>
>As far as I know (and I do a lot of low level programming), there's no
>tricky difference between interrupts implementation in the HP200LX and =
a
normal PC.
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> From: Ignacio Garc=EDa  P=E9rez <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Quake, Doom or Duke Nukem- on the 200LX????
> Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 2:58 PM
>=20
> >Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem are all great games!!! I wonder if there ar=
e
any
> >old copies of these programs that can run on a HP 200LX (or a similar
game)??
>=20
> You're kidding, aren't you ?

I dont know if hes kidding, but ive been looking for an old copy of
Ultima-3 from origins as it was written for CGA XT's so it should work.

Dan

>=20
> Regards. Nacho.
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I am using NiCads and after a charge I get 2.9, then 2.8, then 2.7 then
2.69, then 2.67, then 2.66, then it I check it really quickly I get 2.659996.

Egads, really.....

At 02:08 AM 11/11/97 -0600, Stan Peters wrote:
>I'm using NiCads and after a charge, Lxpro reports over 2.8 v.
>Within a couple hours use it is down to 2.5, from which it drifts
>slowly to 2.38. Then it rather quickly get to 2.3 v., where I get beeps
>from the LX that I have a low battery.
>
>Normally I have charging disabled. When the NiCads get low I enable
>charging (setup screen) and leave the LX plugged in for a couple of
>times for six hour cycles (I have 700 mA batteries).
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Subject:      Re: S.U.P.E.R. Birthday

Happy Birthday to all at S.U.P.E.R from all on us on TEAM HP260LX!

We never could have gotten the team up and running without S.U.P.E.R, the old
list, and now the new list.  Many happy returns.  (And that wish, most
selfishly.)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish
                        TEAM HP260LX

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Happy Birthday S.U.P.E.R. !!!

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>I know nothing.  Now that I have said that, and considering your comment
>about low level programming, would you entertain a concept for a moment?
> I have been wondering if it might be possible to send usable
>information to a standard TTL mono monitor using a parallel port.  The
>idea is to provide an output for fairly static information without
>monopolizing the system's main display.  Comments would be appreciated.

TTL mono monitor?  You wouldn't be monopolizing the system's main
display, you'd be monopolizing the processor.  You might be able to do it
but it would require such precision in timing and so many resources it
wouldn't be practical.  If you updated the display the normal 50 times a
second, in particular.  Even though those monitors are fixed-sync, you
might be able to drop the speed to 25 times a second, but it would still
monopolize the processor beyond belief.

My comment is, go out in some mainframe guy's backyard and pick up
an old terminal.  It hooks up to the serial port and runs great as a second
character display for Unices.  I have the monitor half of a Televideo 925
(or was it 950? I don't remember...) and it works great.  9600 baud max
speed, as I recall.  Plus, you can use it with the 200LX if you need a
soft copy or even running information for your own programs.   I was
at the University of Wyoming a few months ago, and they had a full
Tektronix graphics terminal just sitting there, waiting to be junked.  If
you live in a university town, you're probably in luck.  They're always
junking old stuff.

Just my $.02 -- and I know it ain't related to the 200 much but it kind of
strikes a chord in me...

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

".. but I didn't get to read my poem!"
"That's a loss for _all_ of us." -- Daria Morgendorfer

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY. S.U.P.E.R & the TEAM, and hope you will be always SUPER.
We say PANJANG UMUR (Indonesian). from PALMTOP USER GRUP in =
JAKARTA/INDONESIA

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Happy birthday!

> So, let me give a hearty thanks to everyone who has contributed,
> constructed, visited and supported the S.U.P.E.R Site during its first year.
I have only been a visitor, but now aspire to be a contributer. Thanks.



--
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
"What is bought with money or with goods is purchased by labour as much
as what we acquire by the toil of our own body."

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Gordon,

GY>   What version of Desqview are you running?  I have what I believe was t=
  >he
  >last DOS version, 2.26, and later versions called Desqview386.  How did y=
  >ou
  >get it to run?  I don't have old manuals, so installation intructions wou=
  >ld
  >be helpful.  How about speed degradation?  Think it will work with Stacke=
  >r
  >3.0? =
ÿ
     I have Desqview 2.7, which I believe is the last dos version
produced.  All I did was copy my DV Install diskette to a temp
directory on my flash card, then ran INSTALL /M.
     I did not do a lot of testing with it, just brought it up, added a
couple apps that I use often like VDE, New Sweep, 1st Reader, and
System Mgr.  When I started System Mgr I ran Filer to check, and it
worked fine.  It DID garble the screen in Sys Mgr after a while but the
damage was contained in that window, the other window I had open was
fine.  I tried Lotus but did not have enough memory for that, but feel
I could have gotten around that with some tweaking.
     Keep in mind I'm using a 8meg double speed 200LX with TREMM as the
expanded memory mgr.  I never tried DV with my 1MB 100LX.
     Again, since I now have MaxDos working I'm happy enough to just
use SysMgr, since everything I run now runs in SysMgr.  DV IS a great
program though and I couldn't do without it on my BBS machine.

Jim

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KA>What version of DV? How did you set it up to get SM to run? I couldn't get S
  >running under DV, nor DV under SM.

     I just added it like any other program, and probably tweaked the
memory a little but I don't remember what I set it to.  I set the path
to SM as d:\bin\200.com.  I run DV 2.70.

Jim

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:44:14 +1300
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Bas Pruijn wrote:
> I have another question about nettamer. It seems to quit its
> scripting-file after a constant time with the message script-error.
> My internet provider sends a lot of info when connecting. When I
> try to connect using my cellular phone the script will quit before
> it is connected.
> I tried to insert some delay. Doesn't help at all. Any sugestions?
> Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Hi Bas
I have NetTamer V8pt (smaller than 9/10) dialing my ISP via a motorolla
Startac on a APEX ClipperCom World 33.6 Modem (at 9600 cellular speed)
Initially I had script time out and no dialout
Set Reader Com to dial=ATD,T   and speed 9600
If the script fails after the connection maybee the script is waiting
for the wrong text from your ISP.
To check your script go to DataCOM on your HP200lx and connect the
modem to HP & Phone. Dial (ATDTxxxxxxx) xxx=your ISP number and watch
what the screen says.
Is the prompt "Login" or "Username" or something else? Alter your
script to match  e.g.  WAIT ogin:   or   WAIT name:
Type in your login/username & watch how long before the next prompt
appears. Its usually Password:  your script will say    WAIT word:
you may need some delay between WAIT word: and BLAST Password$
try    DELAY 10
then watch the words after you give your password
They may give an IP address or some such thing as "in PPP mode..."
Select part of these words for the next part of your script
-something like  WAIT ppp:
then my script has    PPP as the last line

Check out the big selection of scripts that comes with the full PT
version (not update version) and modify one to suit.

Cheers
John Shaw
NZ

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:53:52 -0800
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I have a psion and in the catalog that came with it there is an ad from
a company that makes a shoulder 'holster' for palmtops.

Richard bueker

Al Kind wrote:
>
> ----- forwarded message -----
>
> From- ksford@nps.navy.mil (Kevin Ford)
>
> Subscriber Comments: Hi-
> I'm looking for a 200lx carrying case that will fit nicely
> under my arm like a holster that an undercover policeman
> would wear underneath a jacket or something.
>
> The idea is that this would be a much more convenient place
> for me to carry my palmtop than on a belt-pouch or something
> similar.  I work in an industrial environment and having
> the palmtop exposed on my belt (as opposed to protected
> under my arm) would better meet my needs.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Kevin
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:19:00 -0500
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              Steve Carder <S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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  >>I have one question: What about doublespeed upgraged
computers? Are some of these tests going to work properly if
it's been upgraded? Such as the timers? Ram? <<

The RAM test should work, and it will report the correct size
of RAM.  The timers will be reported as bad.  If you look at
the number produced, it will be twice the "allowable range". =

This is what you expect for a double speed machine :)

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childers wrote:
>
> At the risk of pursuing a topic that was flogged to death:
>
DITTO....
>
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled list...

But I gotta mention that my CE is on the inside of my freakin' eyglass
frames. Try dealing with that. Now where did I put that sandpaper...

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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:50:04 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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>2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
>(diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS for the
>200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that info again!


That's the typeof task that Easyshare was made for.  You could create
a software agent to get the info from the built-in apps and type it
into Info Select (or whatever).

You could write the software agent with Creator which comes with Easyshare.

  See HTTP://www.adisoft-inc.com/

>
>Many thanks
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Product Developer
>North Wales, UK.
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:37:41 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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If you don't have Ask you can get something similar
or create your own using debug.

See my earlier post on creating reply.com with debug.

If anyone wants reply emailed, let me know.  It's a huge program,
7 bytes I think.

At 06:07 AM 11/11/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Martin, you would save some "disk" space if you wrote ONE batch file with
>parameters:
>
>print.bat %1:
>
>if '%1= '1 got epson
>if '%1= '2 goto lexmark
>
>
>etc.
>
>or you could even use the DOS 6 "ask" command to ask you to select a
>printer. ( Assuming you have DOS 6 on a deshktop and can copy the file to
>your palmtop)...
>
>------------------------
>David Becher
>(davidb@netmedia.net.il)
>------------------------
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:30:27 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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              APPMGR.DATfile.
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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What is a permanent app?  Why would you want to remove it?

At 12:01 PM 11/10/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I tried to find my previous work on removing unwanted "permanent" apps
>but was unable to do so.  So in an attempt to recreate the procedure I
>found a simpler way to do it.  I was not able to find a way using
> etc.
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:20:55 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Visual Basic for Dos
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I think by definition  *Visual* Basic or *Visual* anything is a windows
program, not DOS.
Quick Basic is DOS.

For example Visual Prolog is windows only,  Visual C is Windows onlyl,
Visual FoxPro is only for windows. etc.

At 04:30 PM 11/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Wow $1000.00 is a bit more than I wanted to spend..... Still looking.
Anyone  have any other ideas???
>
>Glen Bergs wrote:
>>
>> I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos anywhere. I
think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where I
could get a copy?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Glen Bergs
>> gcbergs@gte.net
>> Atlanta GA
>>
>
>Point your browser to this site they be able to help you
>
>http://www.wdn.com/ems/oldtools/ms.htm
>
>
>Gary Christian
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:43:59 -0800
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At 02:30 PM 11/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:36:41 -0500, Bill Rodgers <rodgersb@MS.COM> wrote:
>
>ro> My '200LX has been a real help for me.  The only area where I still get
>ro> blind-sided is holidays.  It would be really great if holidays were
>ro> automatically "scheduled" so they would show up in the month-at-a-glance
>ro> view of the appointment calendar.  Are there any programs that do this?
>ro> Other clever solutions?
>
>Bill how do you enter holidays at present? If you enter them as events
>rather than appointments they will *all* be visible in the month view -

Instead of entering Holidays as events by hand you could fire off an
EasyShare agent
that would read a text file or access the holiday database and enter the
holiday events automatically.  You would need to use Creator
to create the EasyShare Agent.

A free trial version of EasyShare (along with Creator) is available or will
be soon.

        See:  HTTP://www.adisoft-inc.com/
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Date:         Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:47:54 -0600
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From:         Tom Hoover <thoover@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Info Select for DOS on HP200LX
Comments: To: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>

  > 2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
  > (diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS for the
  > 200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that info again!

Just set up a SmartClip in each database (appt, phone, and other .gdb
files) similar to the following:

field1
field2  field3
field4
field5
note
--

The fields can be in any order that you desire...the "secret" is the "--"
on the last line of the SmartClip.  Now, just "print" your entire database
to a text file, using the SmartClip that you just defined as the custom
style.

You may now import the text file into IS using "Disk Import" and then
"Other Split".  The Other Split command will use each "--" as a delimiter
and separate each original record into a separate IS window.

If the above doesn't make sense, send me an email.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 01:10:03 -0500
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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:06:07 -0500, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

pe> This is easy with JAM.  During creation of the JAM archive one =
of the
pe> parameters is the archive size.  On the palmtop, the uncompressed =
part
pe> appears as drive A: - the compressed part becomes the first free =
drive
pe> letter (usually F:).   Been a while since I set this up un my 15Mb
pe> card, so I can't remember the details, but it's all in the docs.

Hi Peniel. I have tried this with jam on my exp thinfax and have had
no success with it. It will work if the host is the c: drive or the =
a:
drive but not the f: drive...

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:37:35 +0900
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Hi

I was using stacker for a few yeas, and didn't know about JAM.
(Thanks to all on this ML)
I found some interest on JAM and setup it on one of flash card.
It works nice and it is useful.

Now I'm wondering,
How can I access JAMed disk from Win95 ?

Thank you.

-Yuzuru Goto(yuzurugoto@post1.com)
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At 16:21 11/11/97 -0600, you wrote:
>If you want an example of how one of these games might (if they could)
>work on an HP, play the built-in Lair-of-Squid (Maze) game.  As am
>alternative, look for a copy of Wolfenstein.  I believe it was
>shareware, and might be old enough so as to be "unaware" of faster
>machines (unaware as in written before 286/386/etc.).

Wolfenstein is now freeware. Even the sources are available.

But don't even think about running it in the HP200LX. As far as I remember,
it needs a VGA card (320x200 though), and furthermore, the processing power
of the 200LX if far away from the required one.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:42:19 +0100
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              Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: JAMed disk with WIN95 ?
Comments: To: Yuzuru Goto <yuzurugoto@POST1.COM>
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>Now I'm wondering,
>How can I access JAMed disk from Win95 ?

Installing the JAM driver in CONFIG.SYS (just about the same configuration
than in your 200LX) should be enough. Windoze recognizes any DOS drives
available at boot time, so, should do with the JAM drive. DIDN'T TRY IT
MYSELF.

JAM has a quine nice feature also. If you keep your JAM drive optimized,
you can resize the compressed file to the minimum amount (this is, the real
space that files in the JAMmed drive use), back it up to your desktop (less
transfer time, since all data is already compressed), and finally resize
the compressed file to it's original size.

Very fast for backups.

My current configuration is: HP200LX 4MB (3MB JAMmed), 10MB ATA flash card
(100% JAMmed). JAM uses 25K of memory.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:59:02 +1300
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Comments: To: palmtop@ihug.co.nz

On 1997-11-12 palmtop@ihug.co.nz said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Bas Pruijn wrote:
   >> I have another question about nettamer. It seems to quit its
   >> scripting-file after a constant time with the message
   >>script-error.  My internet provider sends a lot of info when
   >>connecting. When I  try to connect using my cellular phone the
   >>script will quit before  it is connected.
   >> I tried to insert some delay. Doesn't help at all. Any sugestions?
   >Hi Bas
   >I have NetTamer V8pt (smaller than 9/10) dialing my ISP via a
   >motorolla Startac on a APEX ClipperCom World 33.6 Modem (at 9600
   >cellular speed) Initially I had script time out and no dialout
   >Set Reader Com to dial=ATD,T   and speed 9600
Can you explain the difference between atdt and atd,t? I now use atdt when
using landline with no problem. The script is OK. (must be if I can connect
using landline.
   >If the script fails after the connection maybee the script is
   >waiting for the wrong text from your ISP.
   ---snip---
   >Cheers
   >John Shaw
   >NZ

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:34:09 +0100
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > Another possibility is ELKS, the Embedded Linux
> > Kernel System, but it's an embedded system. If you want your LX to
> > control your microwave oven and your VCR, it could be ideal.
> But you could also use it as plain linux, couldn't you? But I think
> ELKS will take a long time to be ready.
I often browse through the ELKS homepage, I haven't found out, if it
could
be used as a small Linux, but they claim to develop it also for
palmtops. I have the idea that ELKS could replace WinCE like Linux is a
free replacement for WinXX. It could be a great platform on different
processors with lots of already existing software. I wonder if the PAL
lib could be ported to ELKS.

However, these guys are not very far at the moment, I am afraid.
Unfortunately
I am not the right guy to do operating system programming.

Kiyoshi, why are you porting Minix? What is the advantage agains ELKS
(assuming
both are ready)?

Ruediger


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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:20:50 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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              theAPPMGR.DATfile.
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A permanent app or application is one which does not respond to the
delete key (F4).  Reasons for removing an app vary, one might be that a
person can see no use for the application and wishes to use the
associated "slot" for some other application.  I myself do not use the
stopwatch application and as so might want to remove it.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Philip SeyerÝSMTP:pseyer@BEST.COM¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 11, 1997 9:30 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Removing unwanted "permanent" Applications from
>theAPPMGR.DATfile.
>
>What is a permanent app?  Why would you want to remove it?
>

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:47:27 -0800
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Great idea, Tom! I only wish I had thought of it when I transfered my info
over to IS.

===
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx

>
>   > 2. Is there a way to transfer data from the inbuilt 200LX functions
>   > (diary, notes, phonebook and databases) into Info Select for DOS for the
>   > 200LX? It'd be a pain to have to manually type in all that info again!
>
> Just set up a SmartClip in each database (appt, phone, and other .gdb
> files) similar to the following:
>
> field1
> field2  field3
> field4
> field5
> note
> --
>
> The fields can be in any order that you desire...the "secret" is the "--"
> on the last line of the SmartClip.  Now, just "print" your entire database
> to a text file, using the SmartClip that you just defined as the custom
> style.
>
> You may now import the text file into IS using "Disk Import" and then
> "Other Split".  The Other Split command will use each "--" as a delimiter
> and separate each original record into a separate IS window.
>
> If the above doesn't make sense, send me an email.
>
> --
> Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
>     - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
>      ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------
>

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I have found that the 200LX's database app will not accept dates <1/1/1900 in a date field.

Does anyone know of a work around for this?

Thanks,
Michael
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/12/97 10:44:39 AM EST
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzotto@SWISSONLINE.CH>
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> Magnify! is a good product and was picked up by Shier when Ace went =
out
> of business.

Small correction: it was "picked up" by D&A Software Inc., bot by SS&S.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Hello!
A while ago there were some comments about how neat the Yellow Computing
CD-ROM is.  The retail price on their web site is 69 DM (about $40 if you
check on your HP Calc).  I dunno what shipping cost to the US is on that.

Samson Cables is mainly a dealer in HP48 calculator cables.  However, they
also carry Yellow Computing's HP48/95/100/200 shareware CD-ROM (does not
include Transfile or the HP PIM).  I asked if I could order Yellow's HP
Palmtop Software CD-ROM (the one which includes the HP PIM and Transfile),
and they told me they could get it for $35 plus 10% shipping in the US.
The catch is that since this is not a normal product for them, it would
take "several weeks" to get it.  If you're not in a hurry and you're in
the US, it seems like a good deal (save maybe $5-10?)  and you don't have
to mess with overseas shipping.

Incidentally, the HP48/95/100/200 Shareware CD-ROM looks pretty neat if
you have an HP48 or HP95, and it's only $15.95.

To order from them, you can submit secure email at:
https://muffet.com/cgi-src/secure.html

Just tell them you want to order the Yellow Computing HP Palmtop Software
CD-ROM for $35 + 10% shipping 1st class in the US.  They take credit
cards. I just submitted my order yesterday, and they told me it would be
about 3 weeks before they got the CD-ROM in.

Samson's web page is at:
http://muffet.com/samson/index.html

I have no connection with Samson except that I hope to be a satisfied
customer in a month or so.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Subject:      happy SUPER first year !!!!!

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Can someone give a very brief description of the functions
of Info Select?

How does it compare to other DOS databases, eg WAMPUM?
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I used to have RAPIDFILE from Ashton Tate (lost the disks!). It was
a simple and very fast flat file dbm.

a) Anyone know about Rapidfile (on the LX)
b) Where could I find the code?

Regards,
Paul Szilard



HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU on 12-11-97 02:38:03
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Peter, the answer to the first question is I think you have to buy theD=
OS
version direct from MicroLogic. Phone number in the US is201-342-6518. =
I think
it is not available from any of the resellers. Ibet the only reason Mic=
roLogic
keeps selling it is because they haveextra copies still available of it=
. I bet
once those copies are sold,the DOS version will no longer be sold.

8>< snip...
=

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:53:20 -0800
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>Friends,
>snip<
>So, let me give a hearty thanks to everyone who has contributed,
>constructed, visited and supported the S.U.P.E.R Site during its first year.
>Thanks especially to Jorgen, Peter, Toshiki and Fong for their continued help.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Mitch
>

Hey Mitch!
Its some B-day party you got goin' here. So many showed up and we all get
say things like "Has it only been a year?" and "Of course that was way back
on the old server, ha, ha, ha."

Again many thanx

Bill Buzan

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              Macmillan" at Nov 9, 97 00:03:16 am
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Thanks a lot! I'm pushing this mail into stack and
hope that I could pop it in time before stack-overflow..

Rudi

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:19:36 -0500
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>say things like "Has it only been a year?" and "Of course that was way back
>on the old server, ha, ha, ha."

And then there are those old timers who remember when it was still
lakecumberland.com. Folks like Ron Zhang, the very first subscriber to my HP
Mailing List and Tom Gibson of The Palmtop Paper was #2.

Server update:

I was able to rescue Jorgen's website last night by going "hillbilly"
(that's not a jab, I'm a Kentuckian). My server's SCSI disk was being
identified by the controller but would not spin up. Since I knew it was
trash anyway, I popped the top off the drive case and tethered it to the
server with its power and SCSI cables attached. I laid it atop my toolbox so
I had good access to the platters and hit the power. Sure enough, the drive
was jerkily trying to start, but then would die. By reaching in and spinning
the platters by hand repeatedly, it finally caught and spun up. It's still
sitting there running its little heart out and giving up all that yummy data. :)

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:55:32 +0000
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Extremly well done, you folks maintaining SUPER.
The page is _very_ useful.

Thanks again !!

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:27:00 +0000
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Additional accessories like ConnPack, speed-up, flash
disk appreciated.

German version would be ideal but english version also acceptable.

Thanks for any offer !

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:57:09 -0500
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From:         Angelica Wilson <Rhyanna26@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Charging Battery????

Hi all,

Thought I would ask this question to some of the tech savay members of this
forum.

All of the discussion about charging batteries started me thinking about
other options for a having a fully controlable battery charger and I started
looking at DC Power supplies with metered current and voltage control. I've
seen these units for sell for about $200 which right off seems kind of step
but if you spread the use to other duties like for replacing Ac adapters then
it isn't quite so high and I have spend at least that much on various ac
adapter and battery chargers.
What I like about these units is I can set the charge amperage to whatever
range I feel comfortable with. I was thinking of using this with a temperture
sensor connected to the outside of the battery and when the temperture rises
a set limit have it cut off the charging.

I was wondering if anyone has done this or has any input about my idea.

Thanks for any help on this matter.

Angelica

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:47:41 -0800
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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:

> Wolfenstein is now freeware. Even the sources are available.
>=20
> But don't even think about running it in the HP200LX. As far as I remem=
ber,
> it needs a VGA card (320x200 though), and furthermore, the processing p=
ower
> of the 200LX if far away from the required one.
>=20
> Regards. Nacho.

This is a GREAT example of the abandonware concept in action!
--=20
Lewis           KC7MZ     Battle Ground, WA (near Portland, OR)         =20
Team 200LX      NRA Life
http://www.teleport.com/~losborn

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:06:42 -0500
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Subject:      wash dc / northern va users

are any wash dc / northern va users out there?
any in the pentagon?
available to help a new user?
interested in a local user group?


maj doug mcallaster
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From:         Angelica Wilson <Rhyanna26@AOL.COM>
Subject:      The Right battery for the right job

Hi all,

After reading an article on batteries for professional video camera's I
thought I might add some of the insight I glenned from it here.

The depate of which is the longest lasting battery for our palmtops has been
a common occurance here and stories about some memebers getting 14hr and
other only getting 5hr from the same brand and model battery has been a
complexing mystery. Some of our reasoning for explaining the difference have
been usage pattern, type of flashcard if any, charging methods, battery age,
overcharging, etc. etc. etc. but their may just be another factor involved
that none of use have ever considered. That factor is voltage. Now this may
seen like a simple answer but in fact as the article on camera batteries
points out it isn't.

This may get a little long winded but hang in and it may just start a light
bulb in your mind like it did mine.

I am going to start with the example used in the article about camera's  as
it easier.

You have a portable camera that is rated to run at 12v so you go out and by a
12v battery right? The answer is WRONG! The voltage you see listed on a
battery or even single cells is their nominal voltage. Which is rather
deceiving to say the least. Every battery or for that matter every single
cell has a range of voltage that it operates through as it goes from a full
charge to a discharged. So that 12v battery has a range of say 13.2-10v which
is fine execpt your camera shuts down at 11v. So what's the big deal it's
only one voltage difference?? That one volt can make a huge difference if
your battery operates for say 30-40% of it's life at the 11-10v range. So
when you camera says the battery is in fact "dead" it still has a major
portion of it's usable capacity that you camera can't get to. So now that the
battery is "dead" you pull it off and recharge it. If you are luck enough to
have a very  smart charger then no damage done but most of us don't so you
drop it in and now you end up overcharging the battery and damaging it in the
process and you end up doing this over and over and over again because it is
the wrong battery for you camera. But it says the camera take a 12v battery!
Now that isn't true either. Every electronic device is design to operate
through a servicable range of voltage if this wasn't true then our 12v
battery would never work in the first place because it's voltage changes
through it capacity cycle. Now the camera is design to operate at 12v but
it's servicable voltage range is 14.4-11v. So the solution is to find a
battery that has a servicable range that as closely as possible matches the
camera's. This means that instead of a 12v battery you in fact need a 13.2v
battery which has a usable voltage range of approx 14.4-11v. Now when the
camera say the battery is dead it is in fact at the end of it's stored
capacity.

Now on to how this applies to our palmtops

Nicad and NiHm battery are rated at a nominal voltage of 1.2 or their abouts.
Now our palmtop can opperate at 3.0 (I don't now what the upper limit is and
I'm not going to risk damaging my baby to find out) thru 2.3v (but at this
low end you have to put of with consant low battery warning). Now with
alkaline they run from their 3v to 2.3 and are dead you replace them but with
rechargables that not the case and now the headaches starts. Two Nicad or
Nihm have a rough voltage range of about 2.7-2v. Yes 2v is the point at which
these sets of batteries are actually considered "dead" not the 2.3 which our
palmtops stop working.  So with every cycle we end up wasting precious
capcity of our batteries because they are not the right cells for the
palmtop. They work but not to their full capcity. To make things worse every
rechargable battery has a slightly different range of voltage that is
operates through. Even if they are the same make and lot number these these
cells hav never been tested or matched.

So Joe has RS Hi-cap Nicad and get 14hr of use per charge but Joan has the
same thing and only get 6hr. Part of the difference of course are all the
things listed above but another difference that we don't know about (and
can't test with out expensive specialized equipment) is the fact that Joe's
batteries have a happy voltage range of 2.75-2.2 and have most of their
capcity at 2.42 while Joan's are happy to run a range of 2.67-2.15 and they
have most of their capcity at 2.29v which doesn't do her a whole hell of a
lot of good when that is outside the palmtops happy range.

What we need is a set of batteries that have a happy range of 3.0-2.3v with
most of their capcity at around 2.5 or so. The problem is such a thing
doesn't exsist well not quite.

I have found a web site that is supposed to in the development stage for
rechargable Lithium AA cells which is kind of a trade off. These cells have a
voltage range of 3.0-2.6 approx. but their are problems that is the rating
for a single cell not a pair and the capcity is only about 750ma per cells.
One possible solutions involve using a single cell and a spacer or rigging
the battery comparment to run a pair in parallel not series (not to difficult
couple of wires and remove the middle metal bridge) but their is no way you
will ever be able to charge then in the palmtop top. That is unless you want
to take the chance of make your palmtop computer into a desktop BOMB!!!!!!!

So members what possible solutions can we come up with.

One is to find a hobby store that specialize in battery powered models and
has thought it worth while to spend the money to buy a battery matching
machine. (Buy 16 set of rechargable take them in have then tested and only
keep the good ones for our palmtops).

Two try these new Lithium rechargables as soon as their available (of course
you also have to buy another specialized charger :-(  ))))

Three wait unitl someone actually designs a decent battery

Four in the mean time grin and bare it.

Well that all for this tyrade

Happy Happy Joy Joy

Angelica

Oh almost forgot for those who want to know more about the Lithium AA's their
web site is

http://www.tadiranbat.com

bug them if these things are to over priced I would like to try ;-)

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Hi to All,

On 11 November 1997 Darren Frick wrote:

>> At the risk of pursuing a topic that was flogged to death:

> But I gotta mention that my CE is on the inside of my freakin'
> eyglass frames...

At the risk of being "naughty", don't you mean your Fricken eyeglass
frames, Darren?

Oops!

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Somebody posted that there were 386 specific variants of Desqview.  As
it turns out, according to technical notes from Quarterdeck:
"DESQview 386 is simply DESQview and Quarterdeck ExPANded Memory Manager
(QEMM- 386) in the same box. On a 386 machine, QEMM-386's memory
management  makes DESQview's job easier, but the DESQview half of
DESQview 386 is EXACTLY THE SAME as the stand-alone version of DESQview;
not one byte of code is different."

I'd like to see a comparison of Desqview and Software Carousel... what
the differences are, and their comparitive strengths/weaknesses on the
200LX.  When I find a copy of Desqview, I'll post a review to my web
site.

And by the way, for those of you who read my "goodbye" messages a while
back: I was able to work out the problems with my ISP and am staying
right where I am.  Thanks for everybody's concern.
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Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Subject:      Re: Info Select for DOS on HP200LX

The strength of InfoSelect is in handling random information.  You enter
the info  into windows on the screen - think of them as slips of paper -
which take their place in the current "stack" (database) in
as-entered-order.  You can also grab info from other applications and
import info from other files.

You can move the windows up - down - to top- or to bottom of the stack or
even to another stack.

You can join two windows together - split a large window into two or more
smaller ones

You can browse through them and they will be displayed like so many slips
of paper on a desktop - as many as will fit on the screen are shown at one
time.

Searches will gather all windows which match into a "search stack" -
(subset).

The analogy of a stack of slips of paper - or index cards (of any size to
fit the data it holds) which you can sort - search - slice and dice any way
you want gives you an idea of what the program is like.

You can handle more structured data by creating forms and using them when
creating a window.   These can be very simple or as complex as you care to
make them.  You can use line drawing in forms and windows.

You can set up windows with  date and time stamps - enter info on your
project or job - then time stamp when completed and you have a simple way
to record time for billing purposes.

Pretty long for a brief description - but it still doesn't begin to tell
what you can do with this versatile program - It should be clear that it's
for different jobs than a structured dBase type program.

Regards,

Mike

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From:   Paul Szilard
Sent:   Wednesday, November 12, 1997 1:07 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Info Select for DOS on HP200LX

Can someone give a very brief description of the functions
of Info Select?

How does it compare to other DOS databases, eg WAMPUM?
=================================
I used to have RAPIDFILE from Ashton Tate (lost the disks!). It was
a simple and very fast flat file dbm.

a) Anyone know about Rapidfile (on the LX)
b) Where could I find the code?

Regards,
Paul Szilard



HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU on 12-11-97 02:38:03
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Subject: Re: Info Select for DOS on HP200LX


Peter, the answer to the first question is I think you have to buy theDOS
version direct from MicroLogic. Phone number in the US is201-342-6518. I
think
it is not available from any of the resellers. Ibet the only reason
MicroLogic
keeps selling it is because they haveextra copies still available of it. I
bet
once those copies are sold,the DOS version will no longer be sold.

8>< snip...

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: Wolfenstein is now freeware. Even the sources are available.

: But don't even think about running it in the HP200LX. As far as I
remember,
: it needs a VGA card (320x200 though), and furthermore, the processing
power
: of the 200LX if far away from the required one.

Freeware? Really?  Well, if they have the sources available, someone like
myself could just chop them up and make a nice CGA version!  Beyond that,
Wolfenstein ran great on a 12MHz 286 I had once, so I don't see why
it couldn't run on a double-speed 200LX if it were modified for the CGA
card.
Beyond even that, the difference in speed between VGA and CGA is
tremendous -- you don't have to update 64K of stuff every frame with CGA-
only 16K, maybe less.  That speed difference works in processing and
display,
which means it might be able to run on an 8MHz 200LX.

I'm excited!  In case you couldn't tell . . . ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:01:01 -0800
Reply-To:     Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Ebay.Sun.COM>
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Great job, Mitch! Thanks a million for the mailing list. Back then, I was still
in Indiana... Time does fly.


Ron

> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:19:36 -0500
> From: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
> Subject: Re: S.U.P.E.R. Birthday
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
 >
> And then there are those old timers who remember when it was still
> lakecumberland.com. Folks like Ron Zhang, the very first subscriber to my HP
> Mailing List and Tom Gibson of The Palmtop Paper was #2.
>
> Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:06:44 -0600
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Before Wolfenstein 3d, ID had a CGA/EGA engine that did roughly the same
things in 16/4 colors. Another company (cant remember name) licensed the
engine and make Catacombs 3d which was a medieval rpg enhanced Wolfenstien
type game. It might just run on an lx and you could problably get it cheap
if you could find it.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Quake, Doom or Duke Nukem- on the 200LX????
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 5:47 PM
>
> : Wolfenstein is now freeware. Even the sources are available.
>
> : But don't even think about running it in the HP200LX. As far as I
> remember,
> : it needs a VGA card (320x200 though), and furthermore, the processing
> power
> : of the 200LX if far away from the required one.
>
> Freeware? Really?  Well, if they have the sources available, someone like
> myself could just chop them up and make a nice CGA version!  Beyond that,
> Wolfenstein ran great on a 12MHz 286 I had once, so I don't see why
> it couldn't run on a double-speed 200LX if it were modified for the CGA
> card.
> Beyond even that, the difference in speed between VGA and CGA is
> tremendous -- you don't have to update 64K of stuff every frame with CGA-
> only 16K, maybe less.  That speed difference works in processing and
> display,
> which means it might be able to run on an 8MHz 200LX.
>
> I'm excited!  In case you couldn't tell . . . ;)
>
> Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
> "When you tell vicious racist jokes, you should first announce
> that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
> - Dave Barry, "Why Humor is Funny"
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Subject:      Re: Charging Battery????
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              Wilson" at Nov 12, 97 04:57:09 pm
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Angelica,

there is a shop in Germany selling a charger with exactly your
specifications:HTTP://www.conrad.de  It's a combi charger for AAA to 9V cells.
I'm not sure, if they have an english page, too. It seems, that their
server is down at the moment (2am in Germany). The price was about 169 DM,
around 90 bucks. But with 230V/50Hz input. Don't know if it could be use with
110V/60Hz. But altough they offer the IC itself, so you can design your own
charger. (with datasheet)

Jens
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thought I would ask this question to some of the tech savay members of this
> forum.
>
> All of the discussion about charging batteries started me thinking about
> other options for a having a fully controlable battery charger and I started
> looking at DC Power supplies with metered current and voltage control. I've
> seen these units for sell for about $200 which right off seems kind of step
> but if you spread the use to other duties like for replacing Ac adapters then
> it isn't quite so high and I have spend at least that much on various ac
> adapter and battery chargers.
> What I like about these units is I can set the charge amperage to whatever
> range I feel comfortable with. I was thinking of using this with a temperture
> sensor connected to the outside of the battery and when the temperture rises
> a set limit have it cut off the charging.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has done this or has any input about my idea.
>
> Thanks for any help on this matter.
>
> Angelica
>
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: Desqview works great on the 200LX!
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David,
-> Somebody posted that there were 386 specific variants of Desqview.
-> As it turns out, according to technical notes from Quarterdeck:
-> "DESQview 386 is simply DESQview and Quarterdeck ExPANded Memory
-> Manager (QEMM- 386) in the same box. On a 386 machine, QEMM-386's
-> memory management  makes DESQview's job easier, but the DESQview half
-> of DESQview 386 is EXACTLY THE SAME as the stand-alone version of
-> DESQview; not one byte of code is different."

        Thanks for stating this.  I was going to, but I couldn't find
the reference in a quick search of my DV manual.  I was pretty sure that
I had read that though.  The manual does state that it will run on a
8086, 8088, and 386 and above (I run it on a Pentium here).
        I couldn't find any reference to DV on Quarterdeck's web site so
I've emailed them to ask if they still sell it, and if not, if they have
any objection to me giving away copies of mine.

Jim

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I tried several different fonts and I could not figure out what this
was...

Phil

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>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       happy SUPER first year !!!!!
>
>                 \ÝÝÝÝÝ\     _Ý_  _Ý_
>         \ÝÝÝÝÝ\ÝÝÝÝÝ2ÝÝÝ\ _\ Ý    Ý \____\ _Ý\___\ _Ý\___\ \_   Ý
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:36:51 +1300
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Richard wrote:
> I have a psion and in the catalog that came with it there is an
> ad from a company that makes a shoulder 'holster' for palmtops.
> Richard bueker
Hi
I think that would be Covertec as I bought a Covertec Belt case
that clips and "quick releases" from a belt loop and also offers
a shoulder holster to clip on to.
The case comes in two styles: full flap over the top or open top
with elasticised clip to hold the palmtop in (quick draw!) my choice

Inside the case (seperated from the palmtop by an elasticised strap)
is a slide the full length of the case that is designed to hold 2 of
the psion proprietry cards. I have altered the foam protective to hold
my PC Card cellular modem and a cutdown connector cord. Mobile office!!

Its very secure & compact with a dressy black finnish (and also in
grey/green I think)   Rated 9.5/10
See the case at: http://www.widget.co.uk/covertec.htm

Cheers
John       mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:32:59 -0500
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              Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@DIGITAL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: VR Fonts, was  Psion is Pretty

On 1997-11-05 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to ddvteach@digital.
net
   >At 10:05 PM 10/31/97 -1000, you wrote:
   >>I use a 17 point font (fpab0017.vfn) which I think I got
   >>from Gilles Kohl (100114.3146@compuserve.com), the author
   >>of VR.  It makes VR easy to read --I've even caught up on
   >>reading the Classics, which I avoided in college. If you
   >would like a copy of the font, let me know and I'll send it.
   >Please send me a copy of the 17 point font.  Thanks.

   The person that offered the font was very helpful.  However, I
   noticed a couple of fonts larger than his on the VR.ZIP on SUPER.
   Anyone knows of fonts larger still?

   TIA.

   Domingo

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From:         Iasias Montano <bolivia@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hinge Crack Survey

1. Model HP100LX 2MB
2. Manufacture data 51th week of 1993 (SN SG35101856)
3. Owned  3 years 8 months (1,339 DAYS).
4. Purchased new.
5. Crack length  is 1.1 cm (hair size),  10 times a day
6. I carry it  in my pants left front pocket in the office, or jacket
pocket on the field.

PS. I dropped at least 5 times while sitting at meetings.  It has a
cracked battery cover latch, and its front latch got weakened ( I placed
in a piece of tick rubber band to fixed).
For the bottom so it will not slip I placed a rubber pad which came with
robber feet intended for larger consumer electronics appliances, I don't
use the feet; but I only use the left-over pad.
I also did a small adapter from glue in order to get a fit to the "ever
changing" HP serial connector.
I used wire-rap posts and clear hot glue, now I have DB9(F) null and RJ45
straight RS232 on the other end. Both are attached with a belcro strip to
the body of the Palmtop.

Isaias.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:13:28 -0500
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Comments: To: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
In-Reply-To:  <9711130004.AA03700@nova>

->        I couldn't find any reference to DV on Quarterdeck's web site
->so I've emailed them to ask if they still sell it, and if not, if they
->have any objection to me giving away copies of mine.

If they do not object, keep me in mind!


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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:56:30 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Is it just me or can anyone else access Gergo Viczian's web page? I just
registered his clock program and he has emailed me with the registration
info but I need to download a file from his site. Could someone else ple
check the following URL and let me know if it's just me. I have cc'd this
message to him also.

http://www.evt.bme.hu/~gergo/lx/clockfnt.zip

Thanks in advance for the help :)

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:29:37 +1300
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Angelica Wilson wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> After reading an article on batteries for professional video camera's I
> thought I might add some of the insight I glenned from it here.
<big snip of a lot of serious research>
> Three wait unitl someone actually designs a decent battery
> Well that all for this tyrade > Happy Happy Joy Joy  > Angelica

Hi Angelica & team
A "Decent" battery is available right now!
I use 2x NiMh AA fromn Shier/SSS    http://www.shier.com/
They have just had their 1st birthday like the great crew at SUPER
(Thanks)
and they are still going strong. Originally I was going for the longest
time between charges and running them down before charging. Sometimes at
the end of the charge the LOW bat warning meant I had to change
batteries away from home which meant carrying spares! but then it hit
me - just who do these batteries think they are to get so mollycoddled!

Most days they run at 2.6-2.45 on the meter. I set up ABC/LX (also from
Shier) to start charging at 2.59v .  The log shows the re-charge
climbing
steadily to about 2.85 max and time out as ABC/LX is set to stop at
2.99volts (drive those NiMh harder than 1.2v/cell NiCad)

Yes, you shouldnt treat them so rough! but every night I plug the 200lx
in and most times ABC/LX beeps & charges and is finished in time for the
wake up alarm. The batteries NEVER say low and I have not carried any
spare
batteries for the last 10 months.(ok there are a Pr of lithiums in the
car for insurance!)Plus the NiMh have the grunt to run a cell modem
rated at 157Ma.
What all this means is no worry about batteries and just use the HP
charger

Cheers
John    mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:11:08 -0500
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              Glen Bergs <gcbergs@GTE.NET>
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No sorry that definition won't work there is a Visual Basic for Dos ver =
1.0. I was able to get it with help from the list and it seems to work =
very well. It is very different from Quick Basic 4.5. Thanks to everyone =
who helped.

Glen Bergs=20
Atlanta GA

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Sent:   Tuesday, November 11, 1997 10:20 PM
To:     HPLX Mailing List; Glen Bergs
Subject:        Re: Visual Basic for Dos


I think by definition  *Visual* Basic or *Visual* anything is a windows
program, not DOS.
Quick Basic is DOS.

For example Visual Prolog is windows only,  Visual C is Windows onlyl,
Visual FoxPro is only for windows. etc.

At 04:30 PM 11/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Wow $1000.00 is a bit more than I wanted to spend..... Still looking.
Anyone  have any other ideas???
>
>Glen Bergs wrote:
>>=20
>> I have looked and looked and can't find Visual Basic for Dos =
anywhere. I
think it may work well on the 200lx. Has anyone tried it or know where I
could get a copy?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>>=20
>> Glen Bergs
>> gcbergs@gte.net
>> Atlanta GA
>>=20
>
>Point your browser to this site they be able to help you
>
>http://www.wdn.com/ems/oldtools/ms.htm
>
>
>Gary Christian
>
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)  =20
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more =
info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!=20
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:31:55 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I have seen the error of my ways :( In trying to access Gergo's web site
I forgot to put 100lx instead of just lx. Thanks to those who pointed
this out to me!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Date:         Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:35:57 -0500
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              Marc Maxwell <mmaxwell@MAIL.TDS.NET>
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Thought I would pass this along in case anyone was interested. I was at a
store in Jacksonville,FL today that had a LOT of older Dos software. It is
a liquidator that I used to buy from in Atlanta that has opened several
small store front locations.

They have quite a few copies of MS Word 5.5 for Dos at $10, MS Works 3.0
for Dos at $5, Quatro Pro 5.0 at $5, Software Carousel (desktop version) at
$5. All of this is still shrink wrapped with all manuals, etc. Thats just
what I saw at a glance (didn't have a lot of time to spend). I told the
manager, Diane Price, about this list and the need for dos software and she
said she would be happy to ship anything anywhere.

The store is : Champion Computer Products, Inc. "The South's Largest
Computer Liquidator". The Jacksonville site phone is 904-733-1111 and the
Atlanta site phone is 770-475-6223. Sorry no e-mail or url listed for them.

I am in no way affiliated with them except for being a very happy customer
for the last 2-3 years.

Marc Maxwell
TSS Network Services

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Angelica Wilson wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thought I would ask this question to some of the tech savay members of this
> forum.
>
> All of the discussion about charging batteries started me thinking about
> other options for a having a fully controlable battery charger and I

I have seen, but not in a store yet, (only because I haven't gone
looking for it) a battery charger that will charge several different
TYPES of batteries. This is something new, I haven't seen it before
anyway. The thing is a DC power supply would require a lot of
computation on your part. That may be fun, but this guy would rather
just hook it up and forget it!

In fact, I've had a ten amp battery charger here at my business in Los
Angeles that does that quite nicely. When the battery is fully charged,
the needle "bounces" on zero, indicating so. Some batteries charge very
rapidly, being new, some take all day. But it's all automatic. I value
this charger so much that I have repaired it about five times in 19
years. Putting on new cords etc. Nothing else ever went wrong with it,
but the plastic handle broke off, so I put a steel strap in it's place..

It was brand new, and about the size of a six amp battery charger, and
somone was charging his VW bus in a parking lot with it.

Bob

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:10:26 +1000
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   Hello

   I use PNS200 to start a program with the selected file in the
   HPLX file manager.   This is really great, except that the
   program starts with all available memory.  This means that if
   I want to stary another PIM program, I cannot do it.


   Is there a way to limit the amount of memory an application
   takes?  I know it can be done if you start it from More
   Applications.


   TIA


   David Eggins
   davee@iname.com

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PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:

>         I couldn't find any reference to DV on Quarterdeck's web site so
> I've emailed them to ask if they still sell it, and if not, if they have
> any objection to me giving away copies of mine.


Were you able to get your Desqview menu to pop up under the System Manager?
How did you multitask while running Sysman?
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On 1997-11-12 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
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   >On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:06:07 -0500, Peniel Romanelli wrote:
   >pe> This is easy with JAM.  During creation of the JAM archive one =
   >of the
   >pe> parameters is the archive size.  On the palmtop, the
   >uncompressed = part
   >pe> appears as drive A: - the compressed part becomes the first
   >free = drive
   >pe> letter (usually F:).   Been a while since I set this up un my
   >pe>15Mb  card, so I can't remember the details, but it's all in the
   >docs.
   >Hi Peniel. I have tried this with jam on my exp thinfax and have had
   >no success with it. It will work if the host is the c: drive or the
   >= a:
   >drive but not the f: drive...
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Found the same problem. Jam needs to be on the first line of config.sys.
But.. before you can use jam you need to install a driver. Anyone has solved
this? Does stacker have the same problem?


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Angelica is right.

So why are NiCad's 1.2V and not 1.5V?
Is that for the same reason they "cannot" make a car that is not rusting
etc?

Jorgen
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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> Angelica is right.
>
> So why are NiCad's 1.2V and not 1.5V?
> Is that for the same reason they "cannot" make a car that is not rusting
> etc?
Even worse. Its got something to do with chemistry, physics and maybe
even quantum physics.
I think this voltage results from the way Ni and Cd work together. There
might be a way to make
a 1.5V batterie with WxYz :-)


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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:54:13 -0500
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>   The person that offered the font was very helpful.  However, I
>   noticed a couple of fonts larger than his on the VR.ZIP on SUPER.
>   Anyone knows of fonts larger still?
>
>   TIA.
>
>   Domingo

I created a font I call LARGE.VFN which is the largest I could make with
the Pal Font Editor. If you want a copy let me know and I'll e-mail
directly to you.

Owen Samuelson
Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson KU4ET
HP200LX Page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:04:19 +0100
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>Freeware? Really?  Well, if they have the sources available, someone like
>myself could just chop them up and make a nice CGA version!  Beyond that,
>Wolfenstein ran great on a 12MHz 286 I had once, so I don't see why
>it couldn't run on a double-speed 200LX if it were modified for the CGA
>card.
>Beyond even that, the difference in speed between VGA and CGA is
>tremendous -- you don't have to update 64K of stuff every frame with CGA-
>only 16K, maybe less.  That speed difference works in processing and
>display,
>which means it might be able to run on an 8MHz 200LX.

Ok. I though it wouldn't run on a 286 (now that I think, by that time I had
a 286, and I played it).

The sources can be found at:

ftp://x2ftp.oulu.fi/pub/msdos/programming/gamesrc/wolfsrc.zip

Anyway, I remember that the sources don't come with the data (graphics,
sounds, etc...) files, so, you'll need them too from the original game
(which maybe hasn't beer released like the sources). I think I have it
somewhere...

Regards. Nacho.

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>All of the discussion about charging batteries started me thinking about
>other options for a having a fully controlable battery charger and I started
>looking at DC Power supplies with metered current and voltage control. I've
>seen these units for sell for about $200 which right off seems kind of step
>but if you spread the use to other duties like for replacing Ac adapters then
>it isn't quite so high and I have spend at least that much on various ac
>adapter and battery chargers.
>What I like about these units is I can set the charge amperage to whatever
>range I feel comfortable with. I was thinking of using this with a temperture
>sensor connected to the outside of the battery and when the temperture rises
>a set limit have it cut off the charging.
>
>I was wondering if anyone has done this or has any input about my idea.

That's one of my old-old to-do projects. Don't need very much, just a power
source (the HP200LX wall adapter would do), and a microcontrolled circuit
with a programmable current source and voltage measurement (twice for two
batteries, in order to do perfect charging of each one).

The easiest way would be to connect and control it through RS232, and thus
save buttons and display. Maybe one of these days I start building it...

Regards. Nacho.

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     Hello,

     My apologies if this is a FAQ, I didn't see it in the archives.

     Has anyone successfully run TransFile or CPACK from and HP Omnibook
     800 to a 200LX over infrared?  If so how?  Thank you.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Consultant
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:57:20 -0500
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>Kiyoshi, why are you porting Minix? What is the advantage >agains ELKS (assuming both are ready)?

As you mention, Minix is ready, ELKS is still a ways away.

Beside that, Minix is a complete U**x clone whereas ELKS is intended more for embedded systems. I don't consider the palmtop to be an embedded system. It's a scaled-down desktop machine, but far closer kin to the desktop than to my microwave oven or VCR.

And, I already have a Linux box, I don't currently have a Minix box.

Kiyoshi Akima
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First off I'd like to thank everybody who replied to my
upgrades availability in Europe query.

Tom Rundell seems to be somewhat of a celebrity among
European Palmtop users :-)

Unfortunately I won't be upgrading sometime soon, because
the cost of upgrading my 200Lx is just about the cost of a
brand new 200Lx (thats not what an upgrade is suposed
to cost is it ?), although I will eventually send it
for a makeover upgrade.

Bye and thanks again

Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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At 07:43 PM 11/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>At 02:30 PM 11/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:36:41 -0500, Bill Rodgers <rodgersb@MS.COM> wrote:
>>
>>ro> My '200LX has been a real help for me.  The only area where I still get
>>ro> blind-sided is holidays.  It would be really great if holidays were
>>ro> automatically "scheduled" so they would show up in the month-at-a-glance
>>ro> view of the appointment calendar.  Are there any programs that do this?
>>ro> Other clever solutions?
>>
>>Bill how do you enter holidays at present? If you enter them as events
>>rather than appointments they will *all* be visible in the month view -
>
>Instead of entering Holidays as events by hand you could fire off an
>EasyShare agent
<SNIP>

Even easier!!
Down load holidays from the SUPER site and import it into your appointments.
Each holiday is and event that is viewable on the month view.

Easy, Free and works!




Mark Sailer
212-449-9351

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Hi!
        I've been trying to get some information about .EXM files. What's
the difference between them and .EXE files? I know that Ralph Brown's
Interrupt list includes HP200LX's interrupts, and through that you
can control the behavior of the machine and do 200LX-specific
functions. But, what about EXM files?

Andr=E9s Kievsky

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Hi!
        I've been thinking about some programming project for the 200LX. The
only problem is that I can't really decide what to do. I thought that
a good database app could be good, but later changed my mind to a
really good game.
        Now, I don't know what could be helpful for HP200LX users, so the
question should be: What do you need (software) for your palmtop?

Andr=E9s Kievsky

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Hi!
        Wolfenstein 3D is a really good game, but I remember trying to run
it on an XT, it needed 286 at least, so if there are parts in the
source code that are written in 286-code (assembler) you will have to
translate it to 8086 native instructions. But, if the program was
100% in C or the assembler parts where not 286 specific, I think
there won't be any trouble.
        On the other hand, what about visibility? If you can write the CGA
part the game could work, but 4 colors is really nothing compared to
256 VGA colors. How would you solve this problem?

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Hi folks-

Ian Melville & Bas Pruijn both wrote about problems configuring JAM=
 on
EXP Fax/modem/memory cards.

I have this card, but haven't tried compressing it.  JAM works fine=
 on
A:  or  C:

This is just a guess, but the EXP card comes with its own driver that
configures it as the first available drive (usually F:).  There is
probably a conflict between the EXP driver and the JAM driver.

Drive A: on the EXP card is configured as read-only, but isn't really
ROM, but a protected part of the flash memory.  This is why you can
update the "ROM".  I think that what appears as drive F: is actually
the unprotected part of the same flash memory, configured as a
pseudo-drive by the EXP driver.

There is a way to compress the card memory (all of it - not part) with
stacker, that was described in a back issue of the palmtop paper.  I
think this is also on EXP's web site:
        http://www.expnet.com

PR
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On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 Angelica Wilson <Rhyanna26@AOL.COM> wrote:

> <snip...>
> ...I can set the charge amperage to whatever range I feel comfortable
> with. I was thinking of using this with a temperture sensor connected
> to the outside of the battery and when the temperture rises a set
> limit have it cut off the charging.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has done this or has any input about my=
 idea.

Hi Angelica & group-

Actually, I think this is the way some proprietary rapid chargers work.

You could do this with analog circuitry (thermistor, voltage
comparator, and a bunch of other components) driving a relay to switch
current on & off.

Or you could use a microcontroller & A-D converter to monitor the temp
sensor and control charging.  An alternate microcontroller based method
that would work for NiCads (I'm not sure about NiMH) is to monitor cell
voltage during charging.  NiCads show a small, but measurable drop in
voltage when they're fully charged.  The micro would need to be
programmed to watch for the drop, regardless of the absolute voltage
measurement.

I've been toying with the idea of doing this with a 68HC11
microcontroller.  This has a built-in 8 channel 8 bit A-D converter,=
 so
it could monitor up to 8 cells without too much extra circuitry.

Other things that could be done with the micro would be to discharge
cells (individually) before charging, and selecting different charge
rates...

PR
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:18:02 -0600
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On a related thread, I found a program (or parts of a small package)
that I think converts .EXE files to .EXM files.  However, it asks for a
map file or something like that when execute.  Has anyone ever heard of
EXM2EXE?  I have the exm2exe.exe file but no docs or hints.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Andres KievskyÝSMTP:ank@STRIKE.COM.AR¨
>Sent:  Thursday, November 13, 1997 9:46 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       EXM files
>
>Hi!
>        I've been trying to get some information about .EXM files. =
What's
>the difference between them and .EXE files? I know that Ralph Brown's
>Interrupt list includes HP200LX's interrupts, and through that you
>can control the behavior of the machine and do 200LX-specific
>functions. But, what about EXM files?
>
>Andr=E9s Kievsky
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:20:44 -0500
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              Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT>
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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Bas Pruijn wrote:

12> Found the same problem. Jam needs to be on the first line of config.sy=
s.
12> But.. before you can use jam you need to install a driver. Anyone =
has solved
12> this? Does stacker have the same problem?

I have been able to mount jam drives from available free space w/its
own drive designation even if the driver was second or third in
config.sys from what I recall but never if the host is the f: drive.

I have not however been able to get stacker to mount available free
space on any of my palmtop drives as a separate drive while leaving
the host available...

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Are there any updates for the WorldTime database? I am would like to
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:40:52 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Quest re:emm200
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I have not been able to get emm200 to work, but it's probably because I
don't know what I'm doing.  Can someone give directions?

At 19:12 05-11-97 +0800, you wrote:
>Ian,
>just a quickie, are you using emm200 or tremm?  The reason I ask is
>that I had a note on my emm200 page saying that it hung windows 3.0
>which must have been my finding at the time and I was wondering if you
>had found any different.
>
>Thanks
>Murray
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:05:32 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: Charging Battery????

> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 Angelica Wilson <Rhyanna26@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> > <snip...>
> > ...I can set the charge amperage to whatever range I feel comfortable
> > with. I was thinking of using this with a temperture sensor connected
> > to the outside of the battery and when the temperture rises a set
> > limit have it cut off the charging.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone has done this or has any input about my idea.
>
> Hi Angelica & group-
>
> Actually, I think this is the way some proprietary rapid chargers work.
>
> You could do this with analog circuitry (thermistor, voltage
> comparator, and a bunch of other components) driving a relay to switch
> current on & off.
>
> Or you could use a microcontroller & A-D converter to monitor the temp
> sensor and control charging.  An alternate microcontroller based method
> that would work for NiCads (I'm not sure about NiMH) is to monitor cell
> voltage during charging.  NiCads show a small, but measurable drop in
> voltage when they're fully charged.  The micro would need to be
> programmed to watch for the drop, regardless of the absolute voltage
> measurement.
>

If you are looking for a flexible and extremely precise battery charger you
need to look at the ones that are currently made for radio control electric
airplanes. These planes have advanced to amazing capabilities in the last 5
years or so by pushing the envelope of battery technology, much more than
the RC electric car field has. There are several battery chargers on the
market that include microprocessor control, thermal monitoring and even
pulse charging. Many of these chargers support battery packs ranging from 2
cells up to 20 or more to cover the broad requirements of electric flight
systems. Check out a local airplane oriented hobby shop or pick up any of
the current RC flight magazines and check out several of the ads. Tower
Hobbies and Hobby Lobby both have extensive charger listings. You should be
able to find RC Modeler or Model Airplane News magazines in virtually every
store that has a magazine rack.

Pete


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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:12:48 -0800
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    I tried Key200 with the newton keyboard and it works pretty well.  I
was able to remap the keys that I use in typing documents to the dvorak
layout.
    The main drawback is that it also changes the layout on the 200LX which
makes it very difficult to use without the newyon keyboard.  This will
get me thru the weekend; hopefully next week I can come up with MASM and
try modifying newtk2lx.com so as to work the way i need it.

    Thanks for the suggestion about key200; I may actually get my rough
term paper in on monday when it's due!

David Goldstrom
dsg@elwha.evergreen.edu

On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > >    Thanks for the suggestion.  I tried "keybez.com dv" which changes the
> > > 200LX keyboard but doesn't affect the newton keyboard pattern.
>
> key200 works deeper than keybez, and very well may intercept the Newton
> keyboard. Test it by running
>         key200 D:/bin/key200.txt
> and see if the changes work (eg MENU-e now prints "example"). There is
> a fair bit of tutorial in the key200.txt - copy it to C: to edit it
> etc. Also,
>         key200
> without arguments prints out a fairly complete help screen.
>
> Rudi introduced me to key200, and I have to say it's *very* cool. EG:
> If you are annoyed at hitting the More key accidently, you can disbale it.
> You can redefine all the More, Calc, Appt etc keys to be numerals if you
> want. You can make your own macros that work from anywhere. Very excellent.
>
> If you have any questions (it is a bit obtuse) please feel free to
> mail me. :) Though I'm merely a disciple here...
>
> > one can really redefine scancodes in the lowest level of
> > keyboard-event-service and that will cheat ALL "subsequent" codes on
> > our palmtops.
>
> PS I didn't realise that a dvoark (Sp?) keyboard remapper was included
> in the hp200lx. What an incrediably thourough job they did! *marvel*
> --
> bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
> "    People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for
> merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy
> against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.     "
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Desqview works great on the 200LX!
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->        I couldn't find any reference to DV on Quarterdeck's web site
->so I've emailed them to ask if they still sell it, and if not, if they
->have any objection to me giving away copies of mine.

MF>If they do not object, keep me in mind!

     Their first reply to me ignored that question.  I've asked them
again.

Jim

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:01:00 -0500
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Desqview works great on the 200LX!
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DA>Were you able to get your Desqview menu to pop up under the System Manager?
  >How did you multitask while running Sysman?

I never tried it that way.  I was able to run Sysmgr in a Desqview
window though.

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Free Batteries for your Palmtop
Content-Type: text

     I know this won't help everyone, but I wanted to pass along the
info in case it might help someone.
     I haven't paid for batteries for my LX in YEARS.  My wife works at
the service counter of a large supermarket "superstore" that has its
own on-site photo developing.  They get tons of those "disposable"
cameras in for photo developing, which include AA batteries.  Shortly
after these cameras first became popular, environmentalists made a big
stink about the pollution issue of throwing away all these batteries,
so Kodak and others made a big to-do about starting a recucling program
for the batteries.  What they didn't stress though was that they charge
the retailers and developers for each battery returned, thus it was
still cheaper just to throw the batteries away and that is what most
do.  At my wife's store, they save the batteries and give them to
employees.  These batteries are almost always like new when I get them,
each pair reading 3 volts or better in my LX most of the time and the
battery life seems as good as new ones.
     Anyone interested might ask at their nearby camera shop or photo
place and offeer to recycle the batteries for free.

Jim

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Subject:      Alternative to @palmtop.com
Content-Type: text

     The recent message someone posted here about an alternative to
palmtop.com and cc:mail, I thought I'd mention this.  AirPower provides
dialup access to email accounts (and much more) for $5/month.  While
any comm program such as datacomm will do, we provide a free client
disk (ala AOL).  It is a site licensed version of 1st Reader, and
automatic terminal program and mail reader that is fully scriptable,
though we distribute it with the scripts already setup.  It has a
built in file manager (ala windows) and a built in databse program, so
you can store and retrieve messages from the database at any time, for
example to build a knowledge base on any particular subject. Using 1st
Reader you can dial in, log on, download mail (and files), upload mail
(and files), and log off, all in an unattended session in minimum time.
For this reason long distance charges aren't much of an issue as the
typical session is 2 minutes or less.  If anyone is interested, email
me and I'll be happy to file attach you a copy of our site licensed
version of 1st Reader, 1st-Air.exe  I use it on my 200LX and my 100LX.
It also runs fine on any system running DOS, Windows, WFWG, and Win95.
I've never tried in with NT.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:31:02 -0500
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I have just received back my 8-megified, times-two'd palmtop, am enjoying
the speed, but in preparation for installing Software Carousel, I want to
set up expanded memory using the TREMM software that ships with the
upgrade.

With the files in C:\TREMM, I enter C:\TREMM\INSTEMM 100 at a shell, and I
get: "Couldn't FInd a Free Block for EMS Pages"

There is over 2.5 megs free on the C: ramdisk.

Can anyone help me?

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:15:21 -0600
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Is there only one access number for airmail?

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@(nospam)scott.net
Remove (nospam) to email me!
Finger me for my pager number!

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:30:46 -0500
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Well, when you were running System Manager, were you able to get the=
 DV
command menu to popup?

I have figured out that on mine (2.26) you must run it as DV /OK (for
"original keyboard") so that, when you hit the hotkey, it switches to
text mode and brings up the menu.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:26:50 GMT
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On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:19:36 -0500, you wrote:

>Sure enough, the drive
>was jerkily trying to start, but then would die. By reaching in and =
spinning
>the platters by hand repeatedly, it finally caught and spun up. It's =
still
>sitting there running its little heart out and giving up all that yummy =
data. :)

Mitch, I just gotta forward this to our support department :-)

--=20
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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:48:06 -0600
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>
>>Sure enough, the drive
>>was jerkily trying to start, but then would die. By reaching in and spinning
>>the platters by hand repeatedly, it finally caught and spun up. It's still
>>sitting there running its little heart out and giving up all that yummy
>>data. :)
>
>Mitch, I just gotta forward this to our support department :-)
>--
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>Team 200LX


I don't dare show this to my IS group, they would surely ask "what is a
platter?"

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:49:52 -0800
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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I have just received back my 8-megified, times-two'd palmtop, am enjoying
> the speed, but in preparation for installing Software Carousel, I want to
> set up expanded memory using the TREMM software that ships with the
> upgrade.
>
> With the files in C:\TREMM, I enter C:\TREMM\INSTEMM 100 at a shell, and I
> get: "Couldn't FInd a Free Block for EMS Pages"
>
> There is over 2.5 megs free on the C: ramdisk.

The requested space needs to be contiguous. Your 2.5mb of free space is
probably in chunks.

SC should have come with a program called "optimize"  and the instructions
to use it. Optimize will reorder the free chunks of space into one big
area...then INSTEMM should be happy.

- Longden

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> I don't dare show this to my IS group, they would surely ask "what is a
> platter?"

My buddy who talked me into going ahead and trying this said his IS dept folks
looked at him like he had smeared them with excrement when he suggested they
open a drive and actually touch the disk platters.

IS: "What!!! They build these things in CLEAN ROOMS! You can't just open one up
you moron!"

Chris: "Nahhhh! They just show that stuff for advertisements. Works every
time!"

Sure enough, this one ran for weeks with the top off, covered with lint and
dust. They finally threw a screwdriver at it to prove that airborne
contaminants can harm a hard disk. They can... :)

Mitch

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  > Can someone give a very brief description of the functions
  > of Info Select?
  >
  > How does it compare to other DOS databases, eg WAMPUM?

Someone else gave a description of IS, but I just wanted to add what I've
told many other people.  If I had to choose ONE and only ONE computer
program, it would be IS.

I run DOS v2.0 on my LX, and Win v1.0 on my desktop...the stacks
(datafiles) are in the same format.  If you get a later Win version, it is
a one-way only conversion (you can convert DOS --> Win, but not the other
way around).

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exe2exm is a public domain tool to convert your own Turbo C programs (hen=
ce
the MAP file) to EXM executables for the PIM. I have'nt tried it as I sti=
ck
to plain vanilla DOS.

Jorgen
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Comments: To: ank@strike.com.ar

The one thing I have constantly looked for is a word list that can be easily
accessed.  Sort of a dictionary, but not necessarily the defs.   I was going
to scan in the one book I have but that is a horrendous project.   I have
dislexia and I need to just look up the spelling of a word.    None that I
have found so far are what I have been looking for.

Ideas?

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> >
> >>Sure enough, the drive
> >>was jerkily trying to start, but then would die. By reaching in and spinning
> >>the platters by hand repeatedly, it finally caught and spun up. It's still
> >>sitting there running its little heart out and giving up all that yummy
> >>data. :)
> >
> >Mitch, I just gotta forward this to our support department :-)
> >--
> >Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
> >Team 200LX
>
> I don't dare show this to my IS group, they would surely ask "what is a
> platter?"
>
> Phil

Oh, you've got one of those, too, eh?  I can still remember a time - b.i.s. -
when we used to be able to get what we needed to do our job.

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Marc Maxwell wrote:

> They have quite a few copies of MS Word 5.5 for Dos at $10, MS Works 3.0
> for Dos at $5, Quatro Pro 5.0 at $5, Software Carousel (desktop version) at
> $5. All of this is still shrink wrapped with all manuals, etc.

I would like to buy:

MS Word 5.5 for DOS and MS Works 3.0 for DOS. However I am in Europe.
so it is quite difficult for me to get the things personally.
Any trustworthy agent who would do that for me?

> Diane Price, about this list and the need for dos software and she
> said she would be happy to ship anything anywhere.

Sounds interesting.

> phone is 904-733-1111 and the
> phone is 770-475-6223. Sorry no e-mail or url listed for them.

What about fax number?

JS

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Subject:      Re: Programming

> The one thing I have constantly looked for is a word list that can be easily
> accessed.  Sort of a dictionary, but not necessarily the defs.   I was going
> to scan in the one book I have but that is a horrendous project.   I have
> dislexia and I need to just look up the spelling of a word.    None that I
> have found so far are what I have been looking for.
>
> Ideas?
>

There is a public domain spell checker for unix systems that includes a
dictionary file. I am not sure of the format of the file but it could
probably be converted to whatever you need. You should probably be able to
find it on one of the linux archive sites, try sunsite.unc.edu under
/pub/Linux. Look for ispell, I think that is its name. I have seen similar
spell checker programs for dos and windows. I would look in some of the
large file archives and download any spell check programs I found and have
a look at their dictionaries. Also, keep in mind that the program might
include some way of dumping the contents of the dictionary to another file
in straight text form, which might be more useful for what you need.

Pete




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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> The one thing I have constantly looked for is a word list that can be easily
> accessed.  Sort of a dictionary, but not necessarily the defs.   I was going
> to scan in the one book I have but that is a horrendous project.   I have
> dislexia and I need to just look up the spelling of a word.    None that I
> have found so far are what I have been looking for.
>
> Ideas?

A popular item on the LX is JORJ, a shareware dictionary program that
comes with a 1.3mb word/definition file. Registered users get a bigger
dictionary file. Look for it in the shareware libraries.

Probably closer to your request are word lists used for crosswords and
anagram solving. I found one called the "UK Advanced Cryptics Dictionary"
which has a 2.6mb word list (no definitions)....about 225,000 words.

I found it in http://www.shareware.com , looking for "wordlist".  This
one in particular was caled "ukacd15.zip". There may be others.

Once loaded, you probably just need any of a variety of browsers with
search capability to do your lookups (one that combines compression with
browse and search would be ideal).

- Longden

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>exe2exm is a public domain tool to convert your own Turbo C programs (hence
>the MAP file) to EXM executables for the PIM. I have'nt tried it as I stick
>to plain vanilla DOS.

Anyone know where to get exe2exm?  It's not on the SUPER site.
-David

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> With the files in C:\TREMM, I enter C:\TREMM\INSTEMM 100 at a shell, and I
> get: "Couldn't FInd a Free Block for EMS Pages"
>
> There is over 2.5 megs free on the C: ramdisk.
>

The ems drivers need contiguous space.  You can either try a disk
defragmentation program such as Norton Speeddisk or *backup* up your
data, then do a hard reboot (ctr+shift+on) and press "y" to
re-initialize the ram disk then install tremm *before* you install
anything else.  Make sure you backup your data first though!!!

HTH, regards
Murray
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> I have ABC/LX set up to start charging at 2.36V.  This usually enables
> recharging before the palmtop "Low Battery" warning shows up.

That's a bit low! The low batt shows at 2.36V - 2.39v. What if
you are away from an adapter at that moment? I start mine at
2.50v, so my batts have always some charge.

  (: Avi M. :) ÝD&A¨

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Longden wrote on Nov 6:

> >    . Should I get ABC/LX?
>
> IMO, yes. This depends on whether you can deal with the cost of the
> software ($30 to baby your $10 batteries, and make life a little =
easier
> for you). The have a fully working demo version on the web at:
>         http://www.dasoft.com/ABC/abc.html
>
> It disables itself after awhile (usually when you decide you need =
it <g>)

It disables itself after 30 hours of "user time". User time
accumulates when you touch the keyboard. If your machine is on
but you don't touch the kbd, "user time" does not advance. If
you touch the keys at least once in a minute, that minute
counts. So you can see it is a long time. I like how you wrote
it though! <G>...

> >    . Does ABC/LX handle these batteries better than the HPLX
> >    normally?
>
> Another yes. It completely automates the charging process...you only =
have
> to remember to plug in the AC once in a while. Your life doesn't =
revolve
> around your recharging cycle so much after that.

That is exactly the point! to let you forget about charging,
just plug the adapter if you see one. No sense in spending
valuable time on something a program can do just as well.

> PS. I'm not affiliated with DASOFT (the makers of ABC/LX), but I =
swear
> that if I make another plug for them, they should send me a paycheck<g>!

Yeah, right! :-)... If I pay you, the condition is no plugs
for D&A Software, that is our policy. You can say what it
does, no more - no discussion of how great and wonderful
etc... Your life would be so bland! ;-)

Thanks for the good explanations.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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              =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=" at Nov 13,
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Curious:

Did Id Software (who made Doom and Quake) also make Wolfenstein? And
was this related to a similar-looking but simpler game on the ZX-Spectrum.

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I have an EXP 4MB Flash / modem and I have used JAM to compress part of
it and later all of it. It didn't seem too difficult at the time, I just
read some parts of the JAM manuals. I can't recall all of the details but
if there is enough interest I will dig up what configuration I used along
with the version of JAM and the version of the EXP driver.

Cheers,
Kurt

On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Hi folks-
>
> Ian Melville & Bas Pruijn both wrote about problems configuring JAM on
> EXP Fax/modem/memory cards.
>
> I have this card, but haven't tried compressing it.  JAM works fine on
> A:  or  C:
>
> This is just a guess, but the EXP card comes with its own driver that
> configures it as the first available drive (usually F:).  There is
> probably a conflict between the EXP driver and the JAM driver.
>
> Drive A: on the EXP card is configured as read-only, but isn't really
> ROM, but a protected part of the flash memory.  This is why you can
> update the "ROM".  I think that what appears as drive F: is actually
> the unprotected part of the same flash memory, configured as a
> pseudo-drive by the EXP driver.
>
> There is a way to compress the card memory (all of it - not part) with
> stacker, that was described in a back issue of the palmtop paper.  I
> think this is also on EXP's web site:
>         http://www.expnet.com
>
> PR
> ---------
>
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A few minutes ago, I felt a twinge on my leg. I ignored it, but soon it
became a burn, and I could not ignore it no longer. Suddenly, I realised
it was the spare NiCds in my pocket - one of them was very hot!

I've had this pair of NiCds for only a couple of months, and not used
them often. Someone said it must be an internal short circuit, and that
I should return it to the shop. I'll do this.

I've put it in a bin at the moment, because Cadmium is poisonous, and
I'm *worried* that it is so hot that it might explode!!

Any thoughts?


For the record, they are:
"SUPER: N 1000AA 1.25V 1000mAH, Standard Charge 4.5 hours at 300mA,
Reg in Japan" and some Japanese script.

NOTE: I have charged them at a lower ampage than this, for a longer time,
but from what I know, this should be safer than the charge they recommended.
I think my charger is about 90mA - but I'd have to check.


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Marc,
Thanks for the info on the DOS liquidation. I'll be giving them a call.

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>I run DOS v2.0 on my LX, and Win v1.0 on my desktop...the stacks
>(datafiles) are in the same format.  If you get a later Win version, it is
>a one-way only conversion (you can convert DOS --> Win, but not the other
>way around).
>
>--
>Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> -
I run 2.0 on my LX and Win 3.0 under Win95.  I do all my conversions from
Win to DOS.  I'm on my third IS patch but it works.

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"A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> > I have ABC/LX set up to start charging at 2.36V.  This usually enables =

> > recharging before the palmtop "Low Battery" warning shows up.
>
> That's a bit low! The low batt shows at 2.36V - 2.39v. What if
> you are away from an adapter at that moment? I start mine at
> 2.50v, so my batts have always some charge.

Hmmm...  Must be considerable variation in the LX A-D converters or
NiCad cells (or both).  On my 100LX and RS HiCap NiCads, I get to
2.50V after about an hour or an hour and a half.  Voltage reading
levels off at about 2.43 for most of the 10 hours (average) between
charges. Low batt on mine comes at about 2.32-2.35V.

That's the beauty of ABC/LX.  It can be configured for each users
individual palmtop and batteries.

I DO keep an eye on both the voltage & battery timer readings above=
 the
F1 key, and manually enable charging if there is a high count on the
timer, and I expect to be unable to recharge for a while, but this
usually isn't necessary.

PR
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Comments: To: mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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At 10:47 11/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I have found that the 200LX's database app will not accept dates <1/1/1900
in a date field.
>
>Does anyone know of a work around for this?
>
>Thanks,
>Michael

I don't know of a work around but the appt book calander runs from 1/1/1900
to 12/31/2099. If the database app uses the same calander, don't know what
you can do except us the text field type for the dates you want to record.

Regards,
Owen


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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Desqview works great on the 200LX!
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DA>Well, when you were running System Manager, were you able to get the=
  > DV
  >command menu to popup?

Yes, absolutely.

Jim

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: S.U.P.E.R. Birthday
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MH>IS: "What!!! They build these things in CLEAN ROOMS! You can't just open one
  >up
  >you moron!"

MH>Chris: "Nahhhh! They just show that stuff for advertisements. Works every
  >time!"

MH>Sure enough, this one ran for weeks with the top off, covered with lint and
  >dust. They finally threw a screwdriver at it to prove that airborne
  >contaminants can harm a hard disk. They can... :)

     The systems my BBS runs on have always run continuously for years
without any type of drive crash.  I've always felt this was due to the
protective coating of cigar smoke they've developed over the years. ;-)

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

 * 1st 2.00 ~ The person who snores the loudest will fall asleep first.

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Desqview 2.70 available for download
Content-Type: text

     I've just heard back from Quarterdeck, and they say they have no
objection if I give away copies of my Desqview 2.70, provided it's
understood there will be NO support for it.  This doesn't surprise me
and is typical of how well they've treated me as a customer over the
years, and the reason I would always check with them first for my
commercial software needs.
     I've made it downloadable from AirPower as DV270.ZIP, and included
in the archive is their email message to me giving me permission to
give it away and stating that their will be no support.  I don't know
if they'd change their mind if it were spread all over the web, so I
think I will just leave it available for download or File Request (from
1:273/408 FidoNet). Enjoy!

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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:50:35 -0800
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What is the internet address of AirPower?

karl
At 10:35 PM 11/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
>     I've just heard back from Quarterdeck, and they say they have no
>objection if I give away copies of my Desqview 2.70, provided it's
>understood there will be NO support for it.  This doesn't surprise me
>and is typical of how well they've treated me as a customer over the
>years, and the reason I would always check with them first for my
>commercial software needs.
>     I've made it downloadable from AirPower as DV270.ZIP, and included
>in the archive is their email message to me giving me permission to
>give it away and stating that their will be no support.  I don't know
>if they'd change their mind if it were spread all over the web, so I
>think I will just leave it available for download or File Request (from
>1:273/408 FidoNet). Enjoy!
>
>--
>   Jim Henry         | AirPower Information Services (tm)
>(610)259-2198 - FAX  | jim@airgunhq.com        all@airgunhq.com
>(610)259-2193 - BBS  | Home of AIRGUN*HQ (tm)  Fido 1:273/408
>      http://www.voicenet.com/~jimhenry        PRN 176:500/0
>
>Jim@AirGunHQ.com
>
> * 1st 2.00 ~ Luxuriantly hand-crafted from only the finest ASCII.
>
>--
> (jim.henry@airgunhq.com)
> AirPower Services BBS - (610) 259-2193 - info@airgunhq.com
> Interested in Firearms, RKBA, Airguns, the Shooting Sports?
>             PRN Regional HQ, Northeast United States
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I have put a copy of the LARGE.VFN Font for Vertical Reader which I
created, on my webpage.
If you want a copy, you can get it there. Hope some of you who use VR find
it useful.

Best Regards,
Owen


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Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:36:45 -0500
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>      I've just heard back from Quarterdeck, and they say they have no
> objection if I give away copies of my Desqview 2.70, provided it's


Good news!  Can you tell me the benefits of this pgm?  Does it allow
cut/paste between windows like Windoze does?  Can I even RUN it on my 1
meg 200lx with 12mb flash memory?


> if they'd change their mind if it were spread all over the web, so I
> think I will just leave it available for download or File Request (from
> 1:273/408 FidoNet). Enjoy!

Assuming I can run it, now I have to find out how to get files from Fido
via the Internet - I like challenges..

Cheers,

Benson
SW 4516 owner

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Subject:      Re: Heating up NiCds!!  *worried*

> A few minutes ago, I felt a twinge on my leg. I ignored it, but soon it
> became a burn, and I could not ignore it no longer. Suddenly, I realised
> it was the spare NiCds in my pocket - one of them was very hot!
>
> I've had this pair of NiCds for only a couple of months, and not used
> them often. Someone said it must be an internal short circuit, and that
> I should return it to the shop. I'll do this.
>
> I've put it in a bin at the moment, because Cadmium is poisonous, and
> I'm *worried* that it is so hot that it might explode!!
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>

You said they were in your pocket? What else was in there with them? If
anything causes a short across a NiCd battery it will heat up quickly since
it can generate very high currents for short periods of time. I would be
suprised in an internal short caused this, unless the battery was subjected
to some sort of stress or bending it shouldn't even short in a way to cause
a high current discharge. Some loose change or a metal pen clip or two
could cause such a short though, quite easily. I had a similar thing happen
to me once with a battery in a bag with some other junk. If you want to
carry spare batteries you might want to find something to hold them safely.
A cheap pen light with the guts removed can hold two AA cells without much
wasted space.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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btw wrote:

> Good news!  Can you tell me the benefits of this pgm?  Does it allow
> cut/paste between windows like Windoze does?  Can I even RUN it on my 1
> meg 200lx with 12mb flash memory?

It will run.  I'm running tests now comparing it to Software Carousel.
Preliminary results:
Very fast swapping, effective multitasking even on the 200LX.  Definitely a
more capable product for "multitasking" than Software Carousel.
PROBLEM: Desqview uses up a LOT more conventional memory than Software
Carousel.  ~200K.  Leaving very little for programs to use.
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Desqview 2.70 available for download
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-> What is the internet address of AirPower?

jim@airgunhq.com

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> -> What is the internet address of AirPower?
>
> jim@airgunhq.com

Er, I'm having the same trouble... how exactly do we download it? Do you
mean just email a request to you? Or is there something on Fido? But I
don't even know what Fido is! :) is it like ftp?

I'll try sending a request to you...
>  (jim.henry@airgunhq.com)
>  AirPower Services BBS - (610) 259-2193 - info@airgunhq.com
>  Interested in Firearms, RKBA, Airguns, the Shooting Sports?
>              PRN Regional HQ, Northeast United States


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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:42:04 +0800, Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:

ku> I have an EXP 4MB Flash / modem and I have used JAM to compress =
part of
ku> it and later all of it. It didn't seem too difficult at the time, =
I just
ku> read some parts of the JAM manuals. I can't recall all of the details =
but
ku> if there is enough interest I will dig up what configuration I =
used along
ku> with the version of JAM and the version of the EXP driver.

Hi Kurt. I would be very interested to learn how you accomplished
this. Could you look for your notes/details and send them along? If
they are very detailed then it may be better to send to me directly
instead of on the list.

Thanks in advance! <g>

Regards,

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>      Quarterdeck
Sounds like a cool company!

>      I've made it downloadable from AirPower as DV270.ZIP, and included
> available for download or File Request (from 1:273/408 FidoNet)

OK! Is FidoNet a kind of BBS, where you dial in directly on a phone line?
If AirPower is in the USA (guessing), it would be an expensive call
from Australia to download the file! :)

Could I suggest: put it on the web site, but don't tell anyone except us
at the HPLX mailing list. Although it would be theoretically available
to the entire net, no-one else would download it unless they knew the
exact name. Then, Quarterdeck wouldn't be worried about it being too
available.


However, I have a feeling that you know a lot more about the web &
BBS's than I do :)

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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

pe> There is a way to compress the card memory (all of it - not part) =
with
pe> stacker, that was described in a back issue of the palmtop paper. =
 I
pe> think this is also on EXP's web site:
pe>         http://www.expnet.com

This is quite right Peniel. I have never had any problem in
compressing the exp card w/stacker (it even says Stacker-compatible =
on
the box). I had just been hoping to compress part only but I'll settle
for the whole thing if need be... <g>

I was looking at jam only because I thought this was possible but
stacker edges out jam in terms of speed and compression when I checked
them both on my machine.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Nov 1997 06:22:29 +0000
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Hi!
I uploaded Deskview 2.70 (original disks) in my site: the URL is:

http://www.strike.com.ar/ank/dv/DV270.ZIP

Andr=E9s Kievsky

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are the permissions set properly?  I get forbidden access when I try to go
there.

> I uploaded Deskview 2.70 (original disks) in my site: the URL is:
>
> http://www.strike.com.ar/ank/dv/DV270.ZIP

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Date:         Fri, 14 Nov 1997 20:32:22 +1100
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Thanks for uploading it!

But my browser tells me access is forbidden - the file is not
world-readable?

Ah, I can't wait to have a look at this program! The suspense is killing me!


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Subject:      Re: Quake, Doom or Duke Nukem- on the 200LX????
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At 13:43 14/11/97 +1100, you wrote:
>Curious:
>
>Did Id Software (who made Doom and Quake) also make Wolfenstein? And

Yes.

>was this related to a similar-looking but simpler game on the ZX-Spectrum.

Don't think so, but you never can tell.

Regards. Nacho.

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I download LX-Dial from SUPER but I have some trouble to run it with
phone.
I live in Italy. Could anyone help me to configure this program?

Luigi

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On 1997-11-14 NOSPAM.palmtop@ihug.co.nz said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Bas Pruijn wrote:
   >> Tried before adding some delay in the script. Now increased it to
   >>20! Now it  connects without too many problems. The atd,t helps
   >>too. I'm using a hp 700  lx. It has build in cellular modem. you
   >>can redirect com 1 to the phone and  setup nt to use com1.
   >> Thanks
   >> Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
   >> Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
   >hi
   >thats great!
   >I wonder if there is a 700lx FAQ somewhere where your setup can
   >be passed on?
   >Cheers
   >John
an HP 700 lx is just na ordinar 200 lx, with some additions. First is the
build in cellular modem. As a result of this it has some additional build in
programs (i.e. SMS-send and receive; fax send and receive) Some additional
drivers are also included. Something hp calls 'smart battery charching'.
Further it is just an 'ordinary' 200lx.

For the moment I only have one question left: how can I see if I have a
single/doublespeed machine. I wouldn't like to open the machine to check the
cristal. Can I check this using software?

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Has anyone designed a good scanner frequency database?  I'm curious about
the best way to handle the data for filtering, etc.

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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> wrote:

da> Very fast swapping, effective multitasking even on the 200LX.  =
Definitely a
da> more capable product for "multitasking" than Software Carousel.
da> PROBLEM: Desqview uses up a LOT more conventional memory than Software
da> Carousel.  ~200K.  Leaving very little for programs to use.

Sounds really interesting! Can it load partially into expanded memory?
What is the installed size of desqview?

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At 06:22 14/11/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi!
>I uploaded Deskview 2.70 (original disks) in my site: the URL is:
>
>http://www.strike.com.ar/ank/dv/DV270.ZIP

I was unable to download it:


Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /ank/dv/DV270.ZIP on this server.


???

Regards. Nacho.

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> If you want to carry spare batteries you might want to find something to
> hold them safely.  A cheap pen light with the guts removed can hold two
> AA cells without much wasted space.

An empty plastic "can" from 35mm film holds two AA's pretty well. Very
well with the top off; you could tape a piece of paper or other
nonconductive material across the open end....

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Hi Andres!

I've got a problem downloading Deskview:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /ank/dv/DV270.ZIP on this server.

How can I get this permission?

Jens


>
> Hi!
> I uploaded Deskview 2.70 (original disks) in my site: the URL is:
>
> http://www.strike.com.ar/ank/dv/DV270.ZIP
>
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Ian Melville wrote:

> Sounds really interesting! Can it load partially into expanded memory?
> What is the installed size of desqview?


Nope.  In fact it won't run at all with EMM on the palmtop installed.  You have to practically remove all your TSRs to get it
to be able to run System Manager.  If these memory problems can't be solved, then I'm going to have to say, Desqview is just
going to use too much memory on the palmtop to be useful.

The installed size for version 2.26 is about 350K; version 2.6 about 700K; version 2.7 about 1400K (but there are components
you can delete, such as MFT.EXE)
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I tried a similar demo at a computer club meeting many years ago - We were
going to demonstrate what a hard disk crash looks like. We removed the top
from an old drive, started up the computer and waited for something to
happen ... and waited . . .and waited . . . We touched the platter with a
greasy finger . . . and waited . . . and waited . . .we pushed down on the
read head . . . and waited . . . and waited. . . we dropped the disk on the
table  . . . and waited . . . and waited . . . We got bored went home.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:54:42 -0500
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I contacted the folks at Champion Computer Products and now have an e-mail
address to use.

Champ03@mediaone.net

Marc Maxwell
TSS Network Services

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Me too, forbidden.
Aside:
I used to run DV all the time, I think my last version was 2.41.
As I recall there was an option
to load part of DV into EMS, (the best thing was to have
EEMS).  Maybe it would be possible to save some conventional
RAM that way. Also, reduce the video buffer.
-Bryan


btw wrote:

> are the permissions set properly?  I get forbidden access when I try to go
> there.
>
> > I uploaded Deskview 2.70 (original disks) in my site: the URL is:
> >
> > http://www.strike.com.ar/ank/dv/DV270.ZIP
>
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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL> wrote:

12> For the moment I only have one question left: how can I see if =
I have a
12> single/doublespeed machine. I wouldn't like to open the machine =
to check the
12> cristal. Can I check this using software?

I see you use nettamer 1.10, then what speed index do you see on the
opening screen? If I load it on my machine it says speed index 4 (I =
use
a 2x 200lx). The faster crystal bumps up the clock to 15.8mhz I think..

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Hallo,

I hope, some of you will give me an advice: There is an opportunity for
me to buy an ACE Double Flash Plus 20 MB (10 MB phys.) Solid State
Storage for my 200lx, 1 1/2 years old at the price of 450 German Marks.
Is it true, that there would be problems refer to alkaline-batteries and
some applications? I will use the card mainly for WordPerfect 5.1.
Thanks for your kindness in advance.

Michael

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I have a little old task switcher (Jan '85). It divides main
memory
per your request on the command line into several "partitions",
each with its DOS prompt. It isn't a multitasker like DesqView
and
it uses one the main memory, but it has very little overhead.
It appears to work on my 100LX, but unfortunately you switch
partitions by pressing CTRL + (keypad)1 or CTRL + 2, etc......
and the switching doesn't work.

So the problem is how does the HP simulate the numeric keypad
keys?
The zip file is only 11K. I can do an E-mail attachment if
anyone wants
to play with it.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:34:23 +0800
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Please send me a copy. Thanks in advance

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the difference between internal and
external memory upgrade?

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Happy Birthday from Singapore!

Many thanks to all involved for bringing such a good site and keep the
200lx going esp at a time when WinCE is trying to get a footing.

Thanks again!

Long Live 200lx!

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Comments: To: Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?=
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the same happened to meAt 14:49 14-11-97 +0100, you wrote:
>At 06:22 14/11/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>Hi!
>>I uploaded Deskview 2.70 (original disks) in my site: the URL is:
>>
>>http://www.strike.com.ar/ank/dv/DV270.ZIP
>
>I was unable to download it:
>
>
>Forbidden
>
>You don't have permission to access /ank/dv/DV270.ZIP on this server.
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>???
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I am seeing a significant reduction in battery life (30%?) using an ATA flash card and alkaline batteries.
I'll be switching to NiCAD when my alkaline supply runs out.

I don't think that the batteries a draining any faster.  I just think that the alkaline batteries can not
handle the short term high loads needed to write to the ATA flash card during the last 30% of the batteries'
life .

--- On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:45:10 +0100  Michael Teufert <michael.teufert@ON-LINE.DE> wrote:

>I hope, some of you will give me an advice: There is an opportunity for
>me to buy an ACE Double Flash Plus 20 MB (10 MB phys.) Solid State
>Storage for my 200lx, 1 1/2 years old at the price of 450 German Marks.
>Is it true, that there would be problems refer to alkaline-batteries and
>some applications? I will use the card mainly for WordPerfect 5.1.

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           11/14/97 12:36:19 PM EST
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I am also interested to know if there is someplace to find daylight
savings info.
I was in Italy when my HP200LX changed from daylight savings to standard
time.
The problem was, Italy didn't change time.

I found the configuration file for the HP daylight times, but don't know
whether all Europe changed, or just Italy. This means that I don't know
whether to change the
configuration file for European time, or just change Italy of European
time.

I am sure some reader can answer this question, but a source of that
information
would be even better.

Thanks.

Bob


> Are there any updates for the WorldTime database? I am would like to
> see updated area code lists, for instance.
>
> Thanks

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Could anyone tell where I can get the freeware version of Wolfenstein. Is it
the whole story or only the shareware part (no 1)?

Andreas

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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BW>>      I've just heard back from Quarterdeck, and they say they have no
  >> objection if I give away copies of my Desqview 2.70, provided it's


BW>Good news!  Can you tell me the benefits of this pgm?  Does it allow
  >cut/paste between windows like Windoze does?  Can I even RUN it on my 1
  >meg 200lx with 12mb flash memory?

Yes it does.  I much prefer it to Windoze, WFWG, or W95 on my
desktop PCs.  I never tried DV on my 1 meg 100LX, just my 8 meg 200LX
so I don't know.
ÿ
BW>> if they'd change their mind if it were spread all over the web, so I
  >> think I will just leave it available for download or File Request (from
  >> 1:273/408 FidoNet). Enjoy!

BW>Assuming I can run it, now I have to find out how to get files from Fido
  >via the Internet - I like challenges..

I don't know.  While I have a couple web sites, my BBS is accessible by
dialup only, though it is Internet connected for mail and news through
my airpower.com and airgunhq.com domains.

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BN>> -> What is the internet address of AirPower?
  >>
  >> jim@airgunhq.com

BN>Er, I'm having the same trouble... how exactly do we download it? Do you
  >mean just email a request to you? Or is there something on Fido? But I
  >don't even know what Fido is! :) is it like ftp?

It's quite simple, just dial 610-259-2193 with any terminal program.
Log in, create an account, and select (D)ownload from the Main menu or
from the file menu.

The system's been humming all night with people doing just that!

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->-> What is the internet address of AirPower?
->jim@airgunhq.com

MF>Does not seem to be correct.  Will not connect :-(

It sounds like you think it's a web site.  It's not.  It's an online
service accessible by dialup just like AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, only
better and less expensive.  While I have several web sites, the BBS is
not on the web, though it is Internet connected through our
airpower.com and airgunhq.com domains for mail and news.

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BN>OK! Is FidoNet a kind of BBS, where you dial in directly on a phone line?
  >If AirPower is in the USA (guessing), it would be an expensive call
  >from Australia to download the file! :)


Fidonet is a network of over 30,000 BBSs worldwide.  I think I answered
the rest of your questions in my email to you.

Regards,

Jim

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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Hi folks-

I'm back with an update on using EnVision Publisher with the palmtops.=

Last Sunday I wrote about being unable to print.  Finally worked things
out.

The problem seems to be that whatever means the prog uses to write the
print image to disk is incompatible with JAM.  Fortunately I still have
an ACE DoubleFlash Plus 5/10Mb card (uses Stacker).  Installed EVP to
this card, and tried again.  Printing works now 8-)

The good news is that the quality looks great at 180x180 dpi (Epson=
 LQ
emulation), but creating the print image & printing is S..L..O..W.
Took 22 minutes to finish the page.  At 60x60 dpi the quality is
marginal, but it only takes a couple of minutes.  The 60 dpi quality=
 is
probably good enough for letter size flyers with large lettering.

These speeds are for a 1Mb normal-speed 100LX, using the Stacked A:
drive for the image.  With an 8Mb 2x speed model writing on drive C:
things should be a lot faster.  Also, the docs say that using EMS
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One other thing; I overstated the disk space it uses.  The installation
program needs 2.2 Mb, but the files take 1.8Mb installed.

PR
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Hi lxers,

I remember there was a recent thread discussing lines of missing pixels
on the 200lx screen but I did not pay enough attention to this (maybe =
I
should have). While reading my mail today a horiz line about 2/3rds
down of the top of the screen started flashing then disappeared all
together. The line appears to be one pixel wide.

Had a look at the screen connector - removed it from the m/b and
reinserted just in case it was a poor connection but it made no
difference. Any suggestions? This unit was manufactured in Aug-96.

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I have a need for a less than completely functional 100LX or 200LX.

E-mail me with the details of what you have and how much you want.

tia

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>I hope, some of you will give me an advice: There is an opportunity for
>me to buy an ACE Double Flash Plus 20 MB (10 MB phys.) Solid State
>Storage for my 200lx, 1 1/2 years old at the price of 450 German Marks.
>Is it true, that there would be problems refer to alkaline-batteries and
>some applications? I will use the card mainly for WordPerfect 5.1.
>Thanks for your kindness in advance.
>
Michael,

I've had an ACE Double Flash Plus 10 MB for three years. I use 850 ma nicad
batteries and have never had any problems with any applications reading or
writing to the card. I have not used alkaline batteries enough to comment
on their reliability with the card. You should like the card though.



Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson KU4ET
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Can anyone tell me which is the latest version of borland's C/C+ or Turbo
C/C+ that runs aboard the LX200?  TIA...

                                    regards...
                                                    Tony

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Ian Melville wrote:
> Hi lxers,
> I remember there was a recent thread discussing lines of missing pixels
> on the 200lx screen but I did not pay enough attention to this (maybe I
> should have). While reading my mail today a horiz line about 2/3rds
> down of the top of the screen started flashing then disappeared all
> together. The line appears to be one pixel wide.

Hi Ian
I believe the "regular" screen problem is missing vertical lines
than grows to eliminate more of the screen (I had this problem)
That was the "zebra?" edge connectors, a rubbery strip sandwiched
between the screen circuit board and the LCD

This Horozontal thing is NEW (unless you are using VR now!)
and may deserve more study by the group

I hope there is a solution/fix

Cheers

John
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turbo c 2.0 works and so does c++ 1.0.  c++ 1.0 is probably the best
version.    borland c++ 2.0 also works and is a few months newer than
turbo c++ 1.0 but also much bigger

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kudos to quartderdeck for being so courteous with their old software.
this is not something you see everyday.

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Im on a machine connected to the internet behind a firewall, with no direct
dialing capabilities, would it be possible for someone to E-mail me the
DV2.7 installation ZIP, as its impossible for me
to download from this location. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks In Advance,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Desqview 2.70 available for download
> Date: Friday, November 14, 1997 12:22 PM
>
> ->-> What is the internet address of AirPower?
> ->jim@airgunhq.com
>
> MF>Does not seem to be correct.  Will not connect :-(
>
> It sounds like you think it's a web site.  It's not.  It's an online
> service accessible by dialup just like AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, only
> better and less expensive.  While I have several web sites, the BBS is
> not on the web, though it is Internet connected through our
> airpower.com and airgunhq.com domains for mail and news.
>
> --
>    Jim Henry         | AirPower Information Services (tm)
> (610)259-2198 - FAX  | jim@airgunhq.com        all@airgunhq.com
> (610)259-2193 - BBS  | Home of AIRGUN*HQ (tm)  Fido 1:273/408
>       http://www.voicenet.com/~jimhenry        PRN 176:500/0
>
> Jim@AirGunHQ.com
>
>  * 1st 2.00 ~ OS/2 was written on a Monday
>
> --
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Michael Teufert wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> I hope, some of you will give me an advice: There is an opportunity for
> me to buy an ACE Double Flash Plus 20 MB (10 MB phys.) Solid State
> Storage for my 200lx, 1 1/2 years old at the price of 450 German Marks.
> Is it true, that there would be problems refer to alkaline-batteries and
> some applications? I will use the card mainly for WordPerfect 5.1.
> Thanks for your kindness in advance.
>
Hi Michael

I have had the ACE DoubleFlash 40/20 which went read only when a backup
I was copying to it was more than the space left. The reply from ACE
service (1994) to my urgent problem arrived AFTER I had got desperate
and a new DoubleFlash+40 (IBM) card arrived from US to NZ.
I wasn't surprised ACE closed.

The DoubleFlash+ has been super reliable but does suck more power from
the batteries. I use & recommend NiMh and ABC/LX charge controlling
software when you use such a card. I run a full Quicken DOS V6 from the
DoubleFlash with no problems. (always switch off to install/remove card)

here are some US$ price examples from http://www.pdapage.com/hppalm.htm

 20MB ATA Flash Single    $209.00    ClubPDA
   "                      $235.00    Alix
 40MB ATA Flash Single    $399.00    ClubPDA
   "                      $466.00    Alix
 Double Flash+ 20M        $299.00   Magic Ram
   "                      $439.00   Mobile Planet
 Double Flash+ 40M        $449.00   Magic Ram

add freight to that and pay 1/3 to 1/2 for the ACE card

Cheers

John
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Since Deskview is available, why not simply upload it to the SUPER site
where it would be easily available to everyone?


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     Same here.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    11/14/97 3:08 PM


Im on a machine connected to the internet behind a firewall, with no direct
dialing capabilities, would it be possible for someone to E-mail me the
DV2.7 installation ZIP, as its impossible for me
to download from this location. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks In Advance,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Desqview 2.70 available for download
> Date: Friday, November 14, 1997 12:22 PM
>
> ->-> What is the internet address of AirPower?
> ->jim@airgunhq.com
>
> MF>Does not seem to be correct.  Will not connect :-(
>
> It sounds like you think it's a web site.  It's not.  It's an online
> service accessible by dialup just like AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, only
> better and less expensive.  While I have several web sites, the BBS is
> not on the web, though it is Internet connected through our
> airpower.com and airgunhq.com domains for mail and news.
>
> --
>    Jim Henry         | AirPower Information Services (tm)
> (610)259-2198 - FAX  | jim@airgunhq.com        all@airgunhq.com
> (610)259-2193 - BBS  | Home of AIRGUN*HQ (tm)  Fido 1:273/408
>       http://www.voicenet.com/~jimhenry        PRN 176:500/0
>
> Jim@AirGunHQ.com
>
>  * 1st 2.00 ~ OS/2 was written on a Monday
>
> --
>  (jim.henry@airgunhq.com)
>  AirPower Services BBS - (610) 259-2193 - info@airgunhq.com
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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:22:00 -0500, you wrote:

>It sounds like you think it's a web site.  It's not.  It's an online
>service accessible by dialup just like AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, only
>better and less expensive.  While I have several web sites, the BBS is
>not on the web, though it is Internet connected through our
>airpower.com and airgunhq.com domains for mail and news.

Without wishing to sound bitter, this does cause problems for those of
us outside the US. Is it not possible for you to put the DV file on
one of your web sites - you could just place the file there and let us
know on the list what the URL is to retrieve a copy. This way it would
not be generally available to all and sundry.

--=20
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I have a friend who has the following for sale:

1 200LX 2MB
Original Manuals
1 Original HP Power Supply
1 Serial Cable

$350.00 US

If anyone is interested let me know, and I will put you in touch with him.

Sean D. Hoger
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exe2eam is in the HPHAND conference in CompuServe.
Email me directly if nobody else gives you a source and I will download i=
t
and send it to you.

Or can I send it to one of you guys and dolls with a web-site?

Jorgen
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-> kudos to quartderdeck for being so courteous with their old software.
-> this is not something you see everyday.
Agreed.  I hope everyone will visit their web site and consider them
first for any purchases you might need to make.
Jim

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Phil Drummond writes:
 > >
 > >>Sure enough, the drive
 > >>was jerkily trying to start, but then would die. By reaching in and spinning
 > >>the platters by hand repeatedly, it finally caught and spun up. It's still
 > >>sitting there running its little heart out and giving up all that yummy
 > >>data. :)
 > >
 > >Mitch, I just gotta forward this to our support department :-)
 > >--
 > >Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
 > >Team 200LX
 >
 >
 > I don't dare show this to my IS group, they would surely ask "what is a
 > platter?"
Now, that's not very nice.  I am a Unix SysAdmin, and as such, I have
to know what a platter is, and how disk drives work, and what the
limitations are, just so I can tune the servers and workstation.  Do
they just leave that up to the mystical "RAID" box, and then not
measure the actual performance of their disk subsystem?

Actually, I had a Quantom 100MB drive that was in the same condition.
It started growing bad blocks though after I accidentally touched the
top platter itself.
I finally took the the platters out of the drive, cleaned them, and
put them back in.  After that, the drive would not work at all.


 >
 > Phil
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Thanks for the tip!!  When I called today about 4pm eastern, I got
(they thought, anyway) the last copy of MS Word.  I got the feeling
they loved this form of advertisement!

> I contacted the folks at Champion Computer Products and now have an
> e-mail address to use.
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Which version is preferable to use on a 200LX?  v3?
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  > >I run DOS v2.0 on my LX, and Win v1.0 on my desktop...the stacks
  > >(datafiles) are in the same format.  If you get a later Win version, it is
  > >a one-way only conversion (you can convert DOS --> Win, but not the other
  > >way around).
  >
  > I run 2.0 on my LX and Win 3.0 under Win95.  I do all my conversions from
  > Win to DOS.  I'm on my third IS patch but it works.

I'm glad to see that they added this conversion.  The reason that I've
never upgraded to Win v3 or v4, is that I was specifically told by Micro
Logic that the data formats were not backward compatible.  They told me
that the Win version would convert a file to the new format the first time
that it was loaded, therefore rendering it unreadable by the DOS version.

BTW- is this Win --> DOS conversion built-in to the program, or is it a
separate utility?

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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, John Shaw <palmtop@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

pa> This Horozontal thing is NEW (unless you are using VR now!)
pa> and may deserve more study by the group

It is new all right and strange too! The line goes right across the
screen but when I'm viewing screens with vertical lines (like the line
in filer separating c: and a: drive displays) there is no break in =
the
vertical line!

pa> I hope there is a solution/fix

I suspect there isn't so the wife will be getting a palmtop very soon
albeit one with a slight difference :-)

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-> is there an e-dress and/or name to which those who are pleased with
-> quarterdeck's approach can <should> send thanks?

Their email came from info-france@qdeck.com
Their web site is at www.quarterdeck.com
I'd prefer you said something like, thanks for giving my friend
permission to give me a copy, and not play it up as a widespread thing.
You never know, some higher up might put the kabosh on it if they see
how popular it is.

Jim

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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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I put Jim's copy of Desqview 2.70 on my server which you can get via
anonymous FTP at ftp://ftp.buyrite.com.

I agree with everyone that it was great of Quaterdeck to let us do this.
However, Jim's right in the sense that it probobly wont look good if
everyone on the list send's their thanks to them for doing so.  Who knows
what they might do if they think that their product is circulating around
the 'net...

I will leave the file on the FTP server for a week or so.  This should give
everyone enough time who would like a copy to get it.


Sean D. Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

>Their email came from info-france@qdeck.com
>Their web site is at www.quarterdeck.com
>I'd prefer you said something like, thanks for giving my friend
>permission to give me a copy, and not play it up as a widespread thing.
>You never know, some higher up might put the kabosh on it if they see
>how popular it is.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 02:48:15 +0000
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              Andres Kievsky <ank@STRIKE.COM.AR>
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Sorry! the ftp is now fixed. If you have any problems, please mail
me.

Andr=E9s Kievsky

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Date:         Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:05:40 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Sean Hoger wrote:

> I put Jim's copy of Desqview 2.70 on my server which you can get via
> anonymous FTP at ftp://ftp.buyrite.com.


For those of you who are worried: it is very easy to remove/change the
registration data from the INSTALL.EXE file before you install it.  Just edit
INSTALL.EXE with a text editor (that doesn't change the file; the EDIT that
comes with DOS won't do the job) before you install it.  I know Quarterdeck
gave permission for it to be copied, but better safe than sorry.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 02:07:20 -0500
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I see many people are getting the MS-Works, MS-Word for DOS and other things. Can
there be a way I can obtain this either by email or something? I mean, it's not easy to
find these stuff anymore, and with the recent shutdown of Trixter's site, I got nothing!
Please help!
... OS/2: Not just another pretty program loader!

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 16:58:10 -0900
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              Tom Astrom <astrom@MARIN.OR.JP>
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In order to put in maps in LXGPS they have to be PCX format with 1 bit
per pixel. Where can I find a software which can convert PCX pictures to
1 bit per pixel?
Thanks
Tom Astrom

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:15:41 -0800
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Ian Melville wrote:

> It is new all right and strange too! The line goes right across the
> screen but when I'm viewing screens with vertical lines (like the line
> in filer separating c: and a: drive displays) there is no break in the
> vertical line!


Are you saying that sometimes the line is missing and sometimes it's not?  Or that it's only missing in part of the screen?

The screen connects to the circuit board in three places: the horizontal zebra stripes running along the top and bottom, which
presumably match up to the vertical columns.  On the right side of the screen is a ribbon cable which runs all the way down
the side, which presumably controls the horizontal rows.  The circuit board connects to the motherboard through the ribbon
cable connector on the left side of the screen.  If you're missing something, the simplest thing would be to clean the contact
pads that connect the ribbon cable to the screen circuit board.  If that doesn't work, you could try cleaning or realigning
the zebra strips... but that's a good deal more hazardous.  I misaligned them once and it took me half an hour to get it right
again.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 09:40:13 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Subject:      Re: Compressing part of a rem.disk
Comments: cc: ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT

On 1997-11-14 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >--__next_part__1113902835__
   >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
   >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   >On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:42:04 +0800, Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641
   >wrote:
   >ku> I have an EXP 4MB Flash / modem and I have used JAM to compress
   >= part of
   >ku> it and later all of it. It didn't seem too difficult at the
   >time, = I just
   >ku> read some parts of the JAM manuals. I can't recall all of the
   >details = but
   >ku> if there is enough interest I will dig up what configuration I =
   >used along
   >ku> with the version of JAM and the version of the EXP driver.
   >Hi Kurt. I would be very interested to learn how you accomplished
   >this. Could you look for your notes/details and send them along? If
   >they are very detailed then it may be better to send to me directly
   >instead of on the list.
   >Thanks in advance! <g>
   >Regards,
   >--__next_part__1113902835__
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   >_                       __     _ ____
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   >/ / _ `/ _ \  /  ' \/ -_) / |/ / / / / -_)
   >/_/\_,_/_//_/ /_/_/_/\__/_/|___/_/_/_/\__/
   >E-mail: ianmel@opus.co.tt
   >Web: http://www.opus.co.tt/fma
   >FrontLine Marketing Agencies, Trinidad, West Indies
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If this REALLY works, I'd like to give it a try. Any ideas on where to get
an free/sharewareversion of stacker?


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 09:40:33 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Subject:      Re: Updates for WorldTime Database?
Comments: cc: bobv@SOS.NET

On 1997-11-14 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I found the configuration file for the HP daylight times, but don't
   >know whether all Europe changed, or just Italy. This means that I
   >don't know whether to change the
   >configuration file for European time, or just change Italy of
   >European time.
   >I am sure some reader can answer this question, but a source of that
   >information
   >would be even better.
   >Thanks.
   >Bob
Hi bob.
all of (western) europe has the same daylightchanging scheme. A few years
ago the UK was different from the rast of Europe. Since the Brittsh wouldn't
change, all the rest of us europeans had to adopt to the brittish rules. Now
daylightchanges are (Don't blame me if I'm wrong. Had no time to look it up)
at the last weekend of oktober and the last weekend of march.
I hope this helps (a little).

If you want to I can (try to) check these statement made before. Please let
me know.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 05:19:57 -0500
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Tom Astrom wrote:
"In order to put in maps in LXGPS they have to be PCX format with 1=
 bit
per pixel. Where can I find a software which can convert PCX pictures=
 to
1 bit per pixel?"

You may use LXPIC available on S.U.P.E.R site: open your graphic file=
 with Lxpic, then save it as Black & White Pcx file ("F4" key).
It should work.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 08:16:27 -0500
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->I will leave the file on the FTP server for a week or so.  This should
->give everyone enough time who would like a copy to get it.

I'm downloading right now.  Thank you for helping out.

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 11:39:47 -0500
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              mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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FOR SALE

HP 95LX
  - Excellent condition, except for broken latch
  - 95LX/200LX->PC serial cable
  - HP connectivity software
  - Manual
  - HP 128KB SRAM card
  - Original HP AC adapter

Price: $90, including S&H

If interested, e-mail me at the address below.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/15/97 11:35:05 AM EST
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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 16:56:55 GMT
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14.4K Hayes compatible pocket modem for IBM PC. Let me know what you
have. I would prefer a small size.

Reply to btw at vnet dot net
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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:27:32 -0600
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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In an earlier msg. I mentioned this pgm. which allows you to set up
multiple partitions in the DOS main memory space and switch
between them. The program is called Multiple Choice and is
on Simtel Dos as mc.zip. The .exe is only 5K.
I've used it on a desktop and it worked
fine, switching between partitions with a keystroke.
Unfortunatly, I've only been able to get it to
start one partition on my 100LX.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:09:22 -0800
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Michael,
        I have an ACE Double Flash 40/80 and it works very well, except for
when the battery is low. Use of a battery monitor will show that
apparently when writing to disk the voltage dips low and sometimes this
results in an error in writing. Usually it just writes to the wrong
directory. There is no indication that this has happened until you
discover the error later.

        However keeping your batteries fresh seems to solve this problem.

        I also have Word Perfect 5.1 but prefer the memo feature for quick and
dirty writing on the fly.

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles


> >me to buy an ACE Double Flash Plus 20 MB (10 MB phys.) Solid State
> >Storage for my 200lx, 1 1/2 years old at the price of 450 German Marks.
> >Is it true, that there would be problems refer to alkaline-batteries and
> >some applications? I will use the card mainly for WordPerfect 5.1.
> >Thanks for your kindness in advance.
> >
> Michael,
>
> I've had an ACE Double Flash Plus 10 MB for three years. I use 850 ma nicad
> batteries and have never had any problems with any applications reading or
> writing to the card. I have not used alkaline batteries enough to comment
> on their reliability with the card. You should like the card though.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 15:47:00 -0500
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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LY>Thanks for obtaining the green light from QuarterDeck.

LY>This has been a while since I have been using Fido and I never quite figured
  >how to do a file request. Is there a simple way to do a Fido file request
  >from an Internet sourced Email or can you email it directly to me ?

You can only do a Fido file request from another Fido BBS, and you must
be a SysOp to do so, or ask the SysOp to do it for you, otherwise all
you need do is dial in with a terminal program, login, and download it.
I've been swamped with requests to email it, as I feared, which is why
I made it downloadable on AirPower.  Honestly, even though many people
have emailed me and said "I don't have access to Fidonet, it's probably
the most ACCESSIBLE NETWORK IN THE WORLD.  You don't need an Internet
connection, you don't even need an ISP.  All you need is a computer,
modem, and telephone line, which almost everyone on this list has.
It's only an 8-9 minute download, less than a buck for a program I paid
$80 for, so I don't think that's a major inconvenience.
However I understand it could be expensive for those outside the U.S.,
so I am only emailing it to those overseas.  If you are overseas,
email me at jimhenry@voicenet.com and I'll send it to you. I hope
everyone  understands, I only have so much time!

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Subject:      maps for LXMAP?
Content-Type: text

I was intrigued by the program LXMAP, but there don't seem to be any
maps of the U.S. for it.  Does anyone know of any, particularly the
Philadelphia, Pa. area?  TIA.

Jim

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:52:04 +0000
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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There have been several mailings on the subject of the great programme
Info Select for the HP200LX.

I have some more questions:-

Am I right in saying that in the DOS version, when you search
on a keyword, all the search results apprear as notes whereas on the
Windows version 4, you have to "pin up" each search result into a window
manually? If so, this would mean that the DOS version is better in this
feature than the Windows version? Is that the case?

How much disk space does the DOS version take up? I would prefer to run
it on the HP200LX's c drive rather than on a flash disk so as to
conserve battery power.

Thank you

Dr Peter Maddern
Product Developer
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 23:13:47 GMT
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              W5GXL <Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
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On Sat, 15 Nov 1997 08:16:27 -0500, you wrote:

>->I will leave the file on the FTP server for a week or so.  This should
>->give everyone enough time who would like a copy to get it.
>
Ok.   I am not new to computers but for the live of me I can't=20
remember WHAT The Heck  kind of program Desqview is...

Can someone Please give me a hint...
Thanks

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      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:33:00 -0500
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: Desqview 2.70 available for download
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-> Ok.   I am not new to computers but for the live of me I can't=20
-> remember WHAT The Heck  kind of program Desqview is...
->
-> Can someone Please give me a hint...

It's a multi-tasker, or, more accurately, a task switcher.  As I said in
the beginnign of this thread though, I'm quite happy using SysMgr
enhanced with MAXDOS on my palmtop, but it's still fun to play with.

On my desktop PC's it's another story:  I MUCH prefer it over Windows,
WFWG, and Win95 since most of my apps are DOS apps.  Win NT is growing
on me though and I do think I like that best of all.
The successor to desqview is Desqview/x.  I also own that and it is a
fantastic program, though there's no hope of running that on a Palmtop.
DV/x even lets you run unix x window type programs, or so it claims
(never tried it).  BTW, in both Desqview and desqview/x, you can run
Windows or WFWG in one DV window, and your other apps in other DV
windows.
Jim

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On Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:33:00 -0500, you wrote:

>-> Ok.   I am not new to computers but for the live of me I can't=3D20
>-> remember WHAT The Heck  kind of program Desqview is...
>->
>-> Can someone Please give me a hint...
>
>It's a multi-tasker, or, more accurately, a task switcher.  As I said in
>the beginnign of this thread though, I'm quite happy using SysMgr
>enhanced with MAXDOS on my palmtop, but it's still fun to play with.
>
>On my desktop PC's it's another story:  I MUCH prefer it over Windows,
>WFWG, and Win95 since most of my apps are DOS apps.  Win NT is growing
>on me though and I do think I like that best of all.
>The successor to desqview is Desqview/x.  I also own that and it is a
>fantastic program, though there's no hope of running that on a Palmtop.
>DV/x even lets you run unix x window type programs, or so it claims
>(never tried it).  BTW, in both Desqview and desqview/x, you can run
>Windows or WFWG in one DV window, and your other apps in other DV
>windows.
>Jim

Thanks Jim...
Sounds like a good program.. I may even look at it..=20

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Hi,

Can anyone give me an help on installing Deskview. I don't need QEEM,
or do I? If I don't need it how I prevent it from installing? In
addition to the memory needed for installation is there any memory
requirements in C drive for swap files and the like? What
modifications does it do to autoexec and config.sys?

Any help would be appreciated. I would like to try Deskview but I'm
afraid to make any false move.

Thanks

Antonio




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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 01:46:56 -1
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I AGAIN had problems dialing in using my cellular phone. picked out one word
out of the enormous mess of words scrooling my screen when logging in to my
ISP. added an extra wait command in the dialin script. Now I didn't receive
any script errors any more. Hope this is any help to anyone out there.

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Desqview works great on the 200LX!
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Domingo,
-> It would not hurt my feelings to be one of the first to get a
-> copy.   8=)
->
-> Domingo
->
-> P.S.  I wonder how large would the zip file be.

It's 726k.  Where are you located?
Jim

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Installing Deskview
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-> Can anyone give me an help on installing Deskview. I don't need QEEM,
-> or do I? If I don't need it how I prevent it from installing? In
-> addition to the memory needed for installation is there any memory
-> requirements in C drive for swap files and the like? What
-> modifications does it do to autoexec and config.sys?

No, don't install Qemm, at least I don't think you can use it on the
Palmtop.  On a desktop, by all means install Qemm, it's great.
first steo is the command INSTALL /M (the /M is for a monochrome
installation)   Then you will be prompted wheter or not you want a
partial install, and you do, since you don't want to install Qemm.  Then
just follow the prompts.  BTW, the Partial install may be referred to as
ADVANCED install.  Look for either one as that is what you want.
Jim

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Subject:      Re: maps for LXMAP?

What about maps of Israel?

Can i scan maps and save them i a format of lxmap?

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject:      maps for LXMAP?
Author:  PC:PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM at INTERNET2
Date:    11/15/97 10:50 PM


I was intrigued by the program LXMAP, but there don't seem to be any
maps of the U.S. for it.  Does anyone know of any, particularly the
Philadelphia, Pa. area?  TIA.

Jim

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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Subject:      dos6.22

     Hello !

     can some one tell me it i can upgrade my200lx to dos6.22
     can i put a new rom inside?

     Thanks Yehuda.


     P.S.does anybody their have find for dos 5.0 ? if so can it be email
     to me?

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:12:14 -0500
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Ian Melville wrote:
>While reading my mail today a horiz line about 2/3rds
>down of the top of the screen started flashing then disappeared all
>together. The line appears to be one pixel wide.

I am no expert on LCDs, but believe that on the 200lx, all connections to=

the display are made via two rubberised conductive strips along the top a=
nd
bottom edges of the display (I believe this is what is referred to as the=

zebra strips). The strips carry the row and column signals that ultimatel=
y
produce pixels on the display. It sounds as if one of the row driving
signals is no longer making contact on your display, this can normally be=

proved by pressing along the top and pbootom edges of the display until t=
he
row appears. I f you are lucky, this may be the problem. =


The mounting arrangement on the 200lx is simply by sandwiching the zebra
strips between the glass display and the circuit board using a metal fram=
e
around the display so it may be possible to remake the connection by
adjusting clips that hold the metal frame to the circuit board so that mo=
re
pressure is applied to the sandwich around the area concerned. This will
require you to remove dismantle the display section of your 200lx.

Good Luck

Laurence Harvey

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Jim,

The version I downloaded only has Express and Custom Install and
neither allows installation without QEMM. In addition lacking the
manual I've not been able to put Deskview to work. How do I do it?

Regards

Antonio




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On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM> wrote:

ro>         I have an ACE Double Flash 40/80 and it works very well, =
except for
ro> when the battery is low. Use of a battery monitor will show that
ro> apparently when writing to disk the voltage dips low and sometimes =
this
ro> results in an error in writing. Usually it just writes to the wrong
ro> directory. There is no indication that this has happened until =
you
ro> discover the error later.

Bob, there is a battery monitoring utility that used to be sold by =
Ace
but is bundled with every df card. Its called BattMan. This prevents
exactly the problem you describe with writing to the card under low
battery conditions. If you'd want some more info on this drop me a =
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IS Windows version 3.0 does work on the "pin up" from a list method.  The
DOS version takes about 155k plus the data base.
    Hope this helps.

Ron
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From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>



>Info Select for the HP200LX.
>
>I have some more questions:-
>
>Am I right in saying that in the DOS version, when you search
>on a keyword, all the search results apprear as notes whereas on the
>Windows version 4, you have to "pin up" each search result into a window
>manually? If so, this would mean that the DOS version is better in this
>feature than the Windows version? Is that the case?
>
>How much disk space does the DOS version take up? I would prefer to run
>it on the HP200LX's c drive rather than on a flash disk so as to
>conserve battery power.
>
>Thank you
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Product Developer
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Andreas,

I described a problem I was having with the news reader not
connecting to the host.  You advised deleting the WWW.CAC file in my
c:\_dat directory in case the IP address had changed.  I did that
with no effect.  I subsequently reallized that my problem was only
when logging on to Compuserve away from home and then trying to
connect to my news server from there.

The mail reader allows you to add another user ID and password for
the pop3 server.  The news reader does not.  I have tried using the
Compuserve DNS and my ISP DNS when logging on to Compuserve and
cannot find my news server, news.netarrant.net.

When I dial directly to my ISP, the login and news reader work great.
 How do I get it to work through Compuserve?

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:07:06 -0500
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> When I dial directly to my ISP, the login and news reader work great.
>  How do I get it to work through Compuserve?

Most news hosts do not allow "foreign" connects. They do this to keep spam and
other unwanted postings from originating at their site, and to decrease the
load on their connections.

Mitch

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Subject:      Re: Installing Deskview
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-> The version I downloaded only has Express and Custom Install and
-> neither allows installation without QEMM. In addition lacking the
-> manual I've not been able to put Deskview to work. How do I do it?

OK, it's CUSTOM install that you want.  I believe you use the space bar
to toggle on/off the components you wish to install.
You definitely have the option of NOT installing QEMM.  I've done it.

Jim

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Please post "un-subscribe" info, or E-Mail me directly. Thanks.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:29:20 -0500
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Subject:      100/200LX External Speaker!

I was wondering if an external speaker would work on the 100/200LX.

Say connect a speaker line out to the internal speaker leads and mount the
line out jack on the right front corner of the case.

Any input...........!



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              Speaker!" (Nov 16,  1:29pm)
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> Say connect a speaker line out to the internal speaker leads and mount the
> line out jack on the right front corner of the case.

The Japanese have already done this. I remember seeing a web page detailing the
modification about a year ago. Can't remember it now, of course, but it's out
there. Anyone know where it is?

Mitch

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At 13:29 16/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I was wondering if an external speaker would work on the 100/200LX.
>
>Say connect a speaker line out to the internal speaker leads and mount the
>line out jack on the right front corner of the case.

That would work provided:

1- The internal speaker of the 200LX is a "real" speaker, NOT a
piezoelectric beeper (which I think sounds like).
2- The speaker you connect outside can be driven by the 200LX speaker
output (so, it must have a quite high impedance, since I guess the driver
is not very string).

Anyway, what could be done for sure would be to set up an external speaker
connection, and use it to drive an amplifier.

Since the speaker output is a digital wave, just digital gates would do
fine as speaker drivers (again, is the speaker load is small enough).

Regards. Nacho.

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On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:15:47 +0100, you wrote:

>At 13:29 16/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>I was wondering if an external speaker would work on the 100/200LX.
>>
>>Say connect a speaker line out to the internal speaker leads and mount =
the
>>line out jack on the right front corner of the case.
>
You could also try using a "phone" pick-up coil and amp.

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Hmm... many's the time I've wanted to make the speaker volume louder
for alarms (to wake up in the morning).  When I get home today, I'll
try hooking an external speaker to the pads inside the 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:04:43 +1100
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Bob,

There is an update file for the 200LX world time database, I got it from
someone in Compuserve. I no longer subscribe there, if you don't have any
joy finding one i'll see if I can dig it up for you.

David Green

I am also interested to know if there is someplace to find daylight
> savings info.
> I was in Italy when my HP200LX changed from daylight savings to standard
> time.
> The problem was, Italy didn't change time.
>
> I found the configuration file for the HP daylight times, but don't know
> whether all Europe changed, or just Italy. This means that I don't know
> whether to change the
> configuration file for European time, or just change Italy of European
> time.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:21:57 -0800
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I checked the 1997 Jan/Feb issue of the PTP  (The Japanese) and sure enough
on page 34.
External earphone and speaker. This page also has a diagram, and talks
about a short circuit protection resistor and a filter..... This filter is
for blocking the modulation noise of LXMIDI. Sounds like a job for Mr. Tech
himself.......David Sargeant. (:-)

Sound like a marketable product, to me.
Can you break it down for us David?????????.


At 01:36 PM 11/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> Say connect a speaker line out to the internal speaker leads and mount the
>> line out jack on the right front corner of the case.
>
>The Japanese have already done this. I remember seeing a web page
detailing the
>modification about a year ago. Can't remember it now, of course, but it's out
>there. Anyone know where it is?
>
>Mitch
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I am an old Desqview fan - I used it for years before the Windows
jaugernaut swept the world.  Indeed, I still look fondly back on the high
quality of the latter versions of DOS programmes in combination with
Desqview.

Having said that, there are some substantial reasons to use Software
Carousel on the HP200LX.  The version of Software Carousel sold for the LX
series was modified to allow the use of both task switching and the HP
built-in applications.  All alarms in the HP built-in applications also
work under Software Carousel.  Software Carousel is rock solid under both
the 100LX and the 200LX.  I have used it constantly for months on end and
have never had it lock up.  The only lock up I have had in the past three
years was when I had not allocated enough memory in one of its programme
areas for the rather touchy DOS programme that I was running.

In addition, Software Carousel does not require all that much lower ram to
run.  You can easily have DOS programmes running in several different 512K
programme areas at the same time.  The Desqview ram requirement is
substantially higher.  Some DOS programmes simply will not run on the LX
series under Desqview because of the amount of ram that has to be devoted
to Desqview.

In addition,  Software Carousel allows you to use programmes that require
expanded memory even though you are running software carousel without
accessing expanded memory.  I can use Lotus Agenda, for example, under
Software Carousel and still have Lotus Agenda access expanded memory for
greatly improved performance.

In short, Software Carousel has already been tailored to work very
effectively on the HP LX series and it is still being supported by the
distributor.  Those two reasons are sufficient to tip the balance in favour
of Software Carousel over Desqview.

However, let a thousand flowers bloom.  Desqview is a splendid programme
and if you are running DOS programmes with a limited need for ram, by all
means use it with pleasure.  If you are running DOS programmes with a heavy
memory requirement and wish to maintain the ability to run the HP built-in
applications, Software Carousel has the advantage.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:03:03 -0800
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I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.
 I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the Windows
monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
mixed results.

The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility and
portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because of
the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the laptop
was inconsistent.

My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have used
the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use Software
Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.

For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret that
I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into a
whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from the
200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.

Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.

My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because of
its excellent retrieval capabilities.

The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:47:23 -0500
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Lawrence, how do you handle outputs in Agenda? My problem with it was that
it would only do line output. And the speed?

Mikhail

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Lotus Agenda - Great Programme - Great Value
> Date: November 16, 1997 7:03 PM
>
> I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
> started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or
so.
>  I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the
Windows
> monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
> mixed results.
>
> The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility
and
> portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because
of
> the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the
laptop
> was inconsistent.
>
> My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have
used
> the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
> Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use
Software
> Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.
>
> For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret
that
> I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
> flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into
a
> whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from
the
> 200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.
>
> Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
> EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
> expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.
>
> My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
> Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because
of
> its excellent retrieval capabilities.
>
> The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
> domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!
Simply
> logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.
>
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I was think about buying a PNY Compact Flash card 8MB w/type 2 adapter.
Best Buy has them for $119.99. Does anybody know if jam/stacker will work
on this type of flash?

At present I have a EXP 1414 ThinFax 4MB and a Viking 4MB both are Stacked
to 10MB. I plan on getting rid of the both them and buy the PNY. (;-D

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:04:51 -0500
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On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 at 16:03:03 -0800,
        Lawrence Fast writes to HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu:

> I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
> started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.

<snip>

> The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
> domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
> logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.

Could you be more specific on this?  I tried your suggestion and found
no clues leading to the download path to agenda.  I found
www.lotus.com, expanded the "Hot Links" link and found the "Downloads"
link, and followed it, but ended up with a list looking very much like
this one:

Top 10 Downloads

   FTP Site

   Business Multimedia
   Calendaring & Scheduling
   Components
   Developers
   Domino
   IBM Software
   Messaging
   Notes
   SmartSuite

I looked under the likely looking headings, but did not find Agenda.
Would appreciate more specific downloading instructions.

Thanks!



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> You can easily have DOS programmes running in several different 512K
> programme areas at the same time.

The programs are not running at the same time, yes? Software Carousel
does not do multi-tasking? It swaps programs in and out, depending on
which you want to use at that moment, but the others do not run in
the background? In other words, it's rather like the Sys Man, except
you can run more than one DOS session?


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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:15:56 -0800
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To obtain a copy of Lotus Agenda 2.0, the last DOS version of Agenda,
follow the following procedure:

1.   using your brouser, go to http://www.lotus.com
2.   double click on products
3.   double click on downloads
4.   double click on FTP Site
5.   double click on desktop
6.   double click on agenda

I would recommend that you download all of the text files in the Agenda
area as well as both the Agenda 2.0 programme files and the update file.
From that point on, simply follow the usual procedures.

For those unfamiliar with Lotus Agenda, you might wish to check out the
following web pages:

http://www.inc.com/incmagazine/archives/15960511.html

and

http://www.luca.com/cpajournal/old/15203146.htm

There is an active Lotus Agenda group on Compuserve (the LotusB forum) for
Agenda related topics and downloads.

To use Lotus Agenda on the LX series of Palmtops, I would also recommend
using EMM200 to create expanded memory.  See the SUPER website and download
EMM200.ZIP.

Good luck!

Ýthis is a followup to the following message - some people wrote to say
that they were unable to find the location of the Agenda download on the
Lotus website.¨

"I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.
 I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the Windows
monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
mixed results.

The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility and
portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because of
the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the laptop
was inconsistent.

My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have used
the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use Software
Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.

For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret that
I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into a
whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from the
200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.

Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.

My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because of
its excellent retrieval capabilities.

The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda."

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Quinton Jones JR wrote:

> I checked the 1997 Jan/Feb issue of the PTP  (The Japanese) and sure enough
> on page 34.

Unfortunately, I don't have any PTP more recent than the last '96 issue.


> for blocking the modulation noise of LXMIDI. Sounds like a job for Mr. Tech
> himself.......David Sargeant. (:-)

Aw, shucks.  :)


> Sound like a marketable product, to me.
> Can you break it down for us David?????????.


Well, I just finished some tests.  The 200LX can certainly drive a regular speaker
without modification, and the bigger the speaker, the louder the sound.  It still
isn't good enough to accurately reproduce speech, but it is fine for loud tones.
The only problem I can see is, where would you fit the pieces necessary for an
external speaker?  I'd like to see a headphone-style jack where you could plug in
headphones or a large speaker, but where would you put it to avoid permanently
deforming the 200LX?  There's not a lot of room available...
--
Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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At 12:58 PM 10/31/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi there:
>
>        I've been checking PCMCIA ATA flash cards prices, and found that the
>Simple Technology 40MB is listed for about $286 in NECX. Good price. But in
>the same section, I can see similar capacity and features cards for over
>$1400... does anybody know WHY ?
>
>Regards. Nacho.
>
Hey,
        where did you find such a great price on the 40 mb simple card?  Do
they have any smaller cards that are great deals as well (like a 12 mb)?

thanks,

Kevin Barnhart
itstmp2@wmc.edu

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:49:21 -0800
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>The programs are not running at the same time, yes? Software Carousel
>does not do multi-tasking? It swaps programs in and out, depending on
>which you want to use at that moment, but the others do not run in
>the background? In other words, it's rather like the Sys Man, except
>you can run more than one DOS session?

Brendan,
You are, of course, quite correct - Software Carousel is a task switcher,
not a multi-tasker.  However, with a handheld computer, people rarely, if
ever, need to run programmes in the background.  On an XT class machine
like the 200LX, multi-tasking would be very very slow at best.  The biggest
advantage for me is that I can have a number of open DOS programme areas,
each area having an open programme that requires a substantial amount of
ram to operate.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:51:03 -0700
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At 04:59 PM 11/14/97 -0500, you wrote:
>turbo c 2.0 works and so does c++ 1.0.  c++ 1.0 is probably the best
>version.    borland c++ 2.0 also works and is a few months newer than
>turbo c++ 1.0 but also much bigger
>
Hi,
        Does anyone know where to get a copy of the Borland c++ version 1.0?

Thanks,
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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:54:08 -0800
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Subject:      Last known Lotus Agenda  location
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The last time that Agenda was discussed on this List, it could be
downloaded from the following location:

http://www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/Agenda/dos/2.0/misc/ag_disk.zip

Also a file named dskimg.exe was required to break the disk images onto
740k disks.

It can be found at:

ftp.ccmail.com/pub/utils/pubutils/dos/dskimg.zip


At 08:04 PM 11/16/97 -0500, you wrote:

>Could you be more specific on this?  I tried your suggestion and found
>no clues leading to the download path to agenda.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:59:14 -0800
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Kevin Barnhart wrote:

> Hi,
>         Does anyone know where to get a copy of the Borland c++ version 1.0?


I have Turbo C++ 1.0 and Borland C++ 2.0.  If you want either one, let me know.
--
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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:03:10 -0800
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Kevin Barnhart wrote:

>         Does anyone know where to get a copy of the Borland c++ version 1.0?


For those wondering how Borland works its license agreements: they have a pretty
good solution to the "abandonware" issue.  If you buy a current Borland product,
such as Turbo C++ 3.0 for DOS or 4.5 for Windows, they will let you get a copy
of an old product and use that under the license included with your new
product.  You are free to use either the new product or an old product (which
you can obtain from somebody who already has it) but not both at the same time.

This ensures that Borland will not lose sales to competition with old products,
but still lets those of us who cannot run their protected mode products have
access to versions that will run.
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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:33:41 -0800
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The PTP said that the Japanese added a earphone receptacle on the side of
the Palmtop near the PC card slot, just below the hinge.

I'll see if I can scan the page and send it to you.

At 05:45 PM 11/16/97 -0800, David Sargeant wrote:
>The only problem I can see is, where would you fit the pieces necessary
for an
>external speaker?  I'd like to see a headphone-style jack where you could
plug in
>headphones or a large speaker, but where would you put it to avoid
permanently
>deforming the 200LX?  There's not a lot of room available...

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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:34:51 -0500
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I have had a license for Agenda 2.0 for years, and even with the manuals I can never really get started using
Agenda.

Does anyone know of any good reference that might help me out?

I have feeling that I have not been able to gain insight on how to really use Agenda, up to this point, and
any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Michael
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/16/97 10:31:45 PM EST
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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:52:30 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Lotus Agenda - Great Programme - Great Value
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Can you be more specific as to where the file is.  Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, November 16, 1997 7:08 PM
Subject: Lotus Agenda - Great Programme - Great Value


>I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
>started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.
> I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the Windows
>monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
>mixed results.
>
>The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility and
>portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because of
>the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the laptop
>was inconsistent.
>
>My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have used
>the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
>Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use Software
>Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.
>
>For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret that
>I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
>flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into a
>whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from the
>200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.
>
>Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
>EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
>expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.
>
>My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
>Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because of
>its excellent retrieval capabilities.
>
>The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
>domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
>logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.
>
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Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:16:38 -0500
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Subject:      Talking 200LX !!!

You got to try this funny little program. I ran all of them from
separate batch files.

Its a gasss (:-D



----- forwarded message -----


If you want to hear your 200LX (or any DOS machine) say some neat
stuff by way  of the system speaker, point your browser at
www.aw-el.com/stuff/say.zip

Your browser will download say.zip. Unzip it then run sall.bat.

It says stuff like "Hello Master" , "Ouch, don't hit the keys so
hard", "Beam me up Scotty" etc.  Fun stuff.  Place SAY HELLO in your
autoexec.bat and every time you re-boot, LX says "Hello Master"
SAY.EXE is only 9K bytes.

Run SAY-DOC.EXE to read author stuff.




----- end of forwarded message -----




----- end of forwarded message -----





Regards,

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/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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ÝhP¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:53:52 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzotto@SWISSONLINE.CH>
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> When I dial directly to my ISP, the login and news reader work great.
>  How do I get it to work through Compuserve?

It *might* be impossible. A few years ago, news servers were pretty
public. Nowadays, many news servers can only be accessed when having
established a connection through the ISP the news server belongs to.
You might want to check that with your ISP.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:55:02 +0100
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Hello,
my problem is the following: In a bad moment I overwrote my copy of a
quickenfile with a destroyed quickenfile on my HP200LX. Now I can read
only the last 20 transactions. Do someone know how I can repair the file
or is a software avaliable to do it?
Hope to hear something
Wilhelm Gedlicka

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:38:44 +1100
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In-Reply-To:  <34703EA6.4BCE@akh-wien.ac.at> from "Dipl.HTL-Ing.Wilhelm
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> my problem is the following: In a bad moment I overwrote my copy of a
> quickenfile with a destroyed quickenfile on my HP200LX.


You say you "overwrote" it. But if you *deleted* it, here is a suggestion:

(1) don't do anything! The file *may* still be there, but if you write
any other files they may over-write it!

(2) Open FILER

(3) goto the QUICKEN directory

(4) Select the File menu; and Undelete in that menu

(5) Press return. If your file is still there, it will be revealed,
and you can recover it.

(6) If not, it may still be possible to recover it using more
sophisticated tools that someone may mail to you. But it's time to
consider giving up...

I hope it's still there! Good luck

--
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
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Does anyone know what the minimum files are that need to be installed to run Agenda on the 200LX?

I have Agenda up and running just fine, but I would like to recover some RAM.

For those of you looking to install Agenda, this is what I've done:
  - Installed Agenda on my PC
  - Skipped installing printer driver and print preview during installation
  - After installation, ran Agenda on my PC and set the display configuration to monochrome
  - Copied all files from my PC's Agenda directory to a 200LX's Agenda directory, EXCEPT:
      - INSTALL.EXE
      - AGENDA.EXE
      - translators
  - Run A.EXE using MaxDOS
  - Reinstalled Agenda on my PC and added printer driver and print preview, and set the display to VGA

I am thinking that with all of the text based info I pull off of the Internet, Agenda will be a great help.

Anyone having problems creating Agenda installation diskettes using dowloads from Lotus site, feel free to
contact me.


______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/17/97 8:55:30 AM EST
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 06:15:06 -0800
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i also have a 2 meg lx for sale, complete with manuals, and including a
parallel printer cable and neoprene case. purchased 4/97.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 06:29:41 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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There's been alot of traffic lately about Lotus Agenda and InfoSelect,
and I have the vaguest notion that they both help you to organize
information (notes and schedules?).

Are there any in this group experienced in both who can describe their
differences? Are they different enough that someone would want to run
BOTH? (on an LX).

Do either of them integrate with the built-in PIMS (I doubt) or would they
require (as I suspect) that you forego the built-ins in favor of LA/IS or
require cut/paste/import from the built-ins to LA/IS in order to "share"
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- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:31:54 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
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>I was think about buying a PNY Compact Flash card 8MB w/type 2 adapter.
>Best Buy has them for $119.99. Does anybody know if jam/stacker will work
>on this type of flash?


I am running Stacker on the PNY 8MB with no problems.


Sean D. Hoger
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:41:40 +0800
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              Raymond Li <rayli@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Comments: To: Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Hi Lawrence,

Following your instructions, I have downloaded a number of files from Lotus
web site.  Why does Agenda have so many files separately?  Is it a
commercial software, shareware or freeware?  What is required ram for
running it?  I have only 2MB Ram 200LX.  Is it o.k. to use it?

Thanks and regards,

Raymond

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At 05:15 PM 16/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>To obtain a copy of Lotus Agenda 2.0, the last DOS version of Agenda,
>follow the following procedure:
>
>1.   using your brouser, go to http://www.lotus.com
>2.   double click on products
>3.   double click on downloads
>4.   double click on FTP Site
>5.   double click on desktop
>6.   double click on agenda
>
>I would recommend that you download all of the text files in the Agenda
>area as well as both the Agenda 2.0 programme files and the update file.
>From that point on, simply follow the usual procedures.
>
>For those unfamiliar with Lotus Agenda, you might wish to check out the
>following web pages:
>
>http://www.inc.com/incmagazine/archives/15960511.html
>
>and
>
>http://www.luca.com/cpajournal/old/15203146.htm
>
>There is an active Lotus Agenda group on Compuserve (the LotusB forum) for
>Agenda related topics and downloads.
>
>To use Lotus Agenda on the LX series of Palmtops, I would also recommend
>using EMM200 to create expanded memory.  See the SUPER website and download
>EMM200.ZIP.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Ýthis is a followup to the following message - some people wrote to say
>that they were unable to find the location of the Agenda download on the
>Lotus website.¨
>
>"I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
>started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.
> I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the Windows
>monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
>mixed results.
>
>The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility and
>portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because of
>the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the laptop
>was inconsistent.
>
>My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have used
>the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
>Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use Software
>Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.
>
>For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret that
>I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
>flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into a
>whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from the
>200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.
>
>Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
>EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
>expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.
>
>My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
>Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because of
>its excellent retrieval capabilities.
>
>The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
>domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
>logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda."
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:57:23 -0000
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I'm new to this list, can anyone point me at a product to synchronise MS
Outlook Calendar to the HP200LX ?  I've been using Intellilink Plus with
Schedule+, but we are about to be moved over to Outlook.  Puma don't
seem to have support for this combination in IntelliSync - you can have
Outlook for the Palm Pilot but not the 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:14:10 +0100
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Hi,

first I want to thank Michael, Ian, Owen, John and Bob for their
interesting and helpful answers.  I 've bought the card and it works
very nice indeed.

Now I have another question refer the transmission baud rate between the

200lx an the PC via TFWIN200. Why 's HP warning ("... a transmission
rate of
more than 19200 Baud makes high demands on your Personal Computer..")? I

tried it several times with 57.600 baud and it worked without any
problems.
Would it be really so dangerous?
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hi all !!

by mistake i've erased the last emails.... :(


some people were talking about deleting built-in aplications icons


i want to delete the deam ccmail icon ! :)

can anyone tell me how please ?

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My install of Lotus Agenda took up 1.37MB of RAM disk space.

BTW, if you don't have a double speed 200LX, this program runs a little slow.  It takes
30 seconds to load and waits of 10 seconds are common.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/17/97 10:47:57 AM EST
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:34:29 +0100
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I'd appreciate any and all help with the following:
I have cpack 200 installed on my windows 95 based computer. This works ok
with the 200lx. Yesterday, using Netscape, I downloaded a shareware program,
a Zipfile, called Easy Project.
What do I do next? Where do I install the zip file?, where/how do I extract
it, with what if applicable?, how do I then get it into the cpack200, so
that I can transfer it to the 200LX?
For what it's worth I have Netzip as a plugin.
Welcome your assistance,
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:41:32 +0800
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Can anyone tell me where I can obtain Magnify software.

Thanks,

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:27:46 -0500
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Selling my spare HP200.

1 - 200LX 2MB
Original Manuals
1 Original HP Power Supply
1 Serial Cable
Black Leather Case

Excellent Condition

$350.00 US
Plus Shipping

Email Direct if interested

Mark

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:41:21 -0500
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A ZIP'd file is a compressed and archived file.  You need to download a program called
WinZIP to convert is back to a normal file(s).  Note a ZIP file can contain 1 or more
files.  WinZIP can be found at any shareware site.

If you're looking a DOS program to uncompress ZIP'd files, download a program called
PKZIP.

--- On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:34:29 +0100  "A. van der Sluis" <slui1@EURONET.NL> wrote:

>I'd appreciate any and all help with the following:
>I have cpack 200 installed on my windows 95 based computer. This works ok
>with the 200lx. Yesterday, using Netscape, I downloaded a shareware program,
>a Zipfile, called Easy Project.
>What do I do next? Where do I install the zip file?, where/how do I extract
>it, with what if applicable?, how do I then get it into the cpack200, so
>that I can transfer it to the 200LX?
>For what it's worth I have Netzip as a plugin.
>Welcome your assistance,
>Alex
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/17/97 12:37:16 PM EST
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:33:51 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Lotus Agenda - Great Programme - Great Value
Comments: To: Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Do you have any advice on actually using the program on the HP?  What about
the way you have your files set up (from within Agenda)?

At 04:03 PM 11/16/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
>started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.
> I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the Windows
>monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
>mixed results.
>
>The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility and
>portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because of
>the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the laptop
>was inconsistent.
>
>My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have used
>the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
>Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use Software
>Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.
>
>For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret that
>I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
>flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into a
>whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from the
>200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.
>
>Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
>EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
>expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.
>
>My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
>Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because of
>its excellent retrieval capabilities.
>
>The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
>domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
>logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:39:39 -0800
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Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Can you program it to say, "Good Morning, Dave"?

At 11:16 PM 11/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>You got to try this funny little program. I ran all of them from
>separate batch files.
>
>Its a gasss (:-D
>
>
>
>----- forwarded message -----
>
>
>If you want to hear your 200LX (or any DOS machine) say some neat
>stuff by way  of the system speaker, point your browser at
>www.aw-el.com/stuff/say.zip
>
>Your browser will download say.zip. Unzip it then run sall.bat.
>
>It says stuff like "Hello Master" , "Ouch, don't hit the keys so
>hard", "Beam me up Scotty" etc.  Fun stuff.  Place SAY HELLO in your
>autoexec.bat and every time you re-boot, LX says "Hello Master"
>SAY.EXE is only 9K bytes.
>
>Run SAY-DOC.EXE to read author stuff.
>
>
>
>
>----- end of forwarded message -----
>
>
>
>
>----- end of forwarded message -----
>
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>   ____
>  / __ \  ____ ___  ____ _____
> / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
>/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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>
>ÝhP¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:18:17 -0800
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Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>

so agenda here in parcel, or just the utilities and updates?

> ----------
> From:         Claud G. Cameron
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Claud G. Cameron
> Sent:         Monday, November 17, 1997 9:33 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Lotus Agenda - Great Programme - Great Value
>
> Do you have any advice on actually using the program on the HP?  What
> about
> the way you have your files set up (from within Agenda)?
>
> At 04:03 PM 11/16/97 -0800, you wrote:
> >I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
> >started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or
> so.
> > I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the
> Windows
> >monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
> >mixed results.
> >
> >The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility
> and
> >portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because
> of
> >the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the
> laptop
> >was inconsistent.
> >
> >My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have
> used
> >the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
> >Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use
> Software
> >Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.
> >
> >For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret
> that
> >I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
> >flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into
> a
> >whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from
> the
> >200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.
> >
> >Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
> >EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
> >expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.
> >
> >My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
> >Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because
> of
> >its excellent retrieval capabilities.
> >
> >The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
> >domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!
> Simply
> >logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.
> >
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:18:22 -0800
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How does one go about creating/converting these maps?

I would be interested in the Southern California area with some degree
of detail.

Can the maps from Microsoft's Expedia Streets be used?

Just curious.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:20:15 +1300
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Michael Teufert wrote:
>
> Hi,
> <SNIP>
> Now I have another question refer the transmission baud rate between the
> 200lx an the PC via TFWIN200. Why 's HP warning ("... a transmission
> rate of
> more than 19200 Baud makes high demands on your Personal Computer..")? I
> tried it several times with 57.600 baud and it worked without any
> problems.
> Would it be really so dangerous?
Hi Michael
the short answer is NO, it would not be dangerous
The 200lx has a "slow" UART chip controlling its serial port but
115200 is possible with the right software.
Cheers
John
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:04 -0500
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On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Michael Teufert <michael.teufert@ON-LINE.DE> wrote:

mi> Now I have another question refer the transmission baud rate between =
the
mi> 200lx an the PC via TFWIN200. Why 's HP warning ("... a transmission
mi> rate of
mi> more than 19200 Baud makes high demands on your Personal Computer..")?=
 I
mi> tried it several times with 57.600 baud and it worked without any
mi> problems.

Can't ever remember seeing that msg Mike and I use transfile at the
highest rate (57600) all the time. But how can 19200 tax either pc =
when
the cpack software runs comfortably at 115200 baud...?

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:15:13 -0700
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I could not find this download on the Lotus site.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca ÝSMTP:lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA¨
Sent:   Sunday, November 16, 1997 5:03 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Lotus Agenda - Great Programme - Great Value

I have been looking for a good workable PIM for a number of years.  I
started in the DOS world with Instant Recall which I used for a year or so.
 I then tried SideKick 2 and used it for about 18 months.  When the Windows
monolith gathered speed, I tried Ascend, Ecco, and Lotus Organizer with
mixed results.

The primary problem with most PIMs for me has been lack of flexibility and
portability.  I toted around a laptop for a number of years but, because of
the size, weight, and inappropriateness, I found that  my use of the laptop
was inconsistent.

My solution was the HP200LX palmtop.  For the last three years I have used
the Palmtop PIMs to do basic scheduling, name and address listing, etc.
Notekeeping and general to-do lists are done in Grandview.  I use Software
Carousel to keep my DOS programmes readily available.

For the past two months I have been using Lotus Agenda and only regret that
I did not discover this programme several years ago.  It has marvelous
flexibility and combines notekeeping, scheduling, and daily journals into a
whole.  As soon as I am able to bring my name and address database from the
200LX into Lotus Agenda, I will use Agenda almost exclusively.

Technically, Lotus Agenda works best with expanded memory.  Fortunately
EMM200.Zip (from the SUPER website) provides exactly the right kind of
expanded memory needed by Lotus Agenda.

My son is using Lotus Agenda with his 200LX to take notes for university.
Indeed, a number of journalists have been using Agenda for years because of
its excellent retrieval capabilities.

The best news is that Lotus has released Lotus Agenda into the public
domain.  It is available as a free download from the Lotus website!  Simply
logon to www.lotus.com and follow the download path to Agenda.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:18:21 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  <199711171802.KAA03089@denmark.it.earthlink.net> from "Quinton
              Jones Jr" at Nov 17, 97 10:03:48 am
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My intention is to stack the a: drive which is pcmcia flash card.  I have
bought a used copy of Stacker v3 but it hasn't arrived yet.

Benson

ps
heck, can I stack the c: too?  I've never used the pgm.


>
> Both Stacker v3.0 and v4.0 are good. But v4.0 uses more ram and disk
> space.
>
> What are you planning to stack? c:\ or a flash/ram card.
>
>
>
> > Which version is preferable to use on a 200LX?  v3?

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:23:05 -0700
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     Hi!
     I also use TFWin 200 and have seen that massage but as 19200 was to
     slow I changed it to the highest rate and no problem on my Windows NT
     4.0 machine at work or my Windows 95 machine at home. BTW the HP
     connectivity pack works on a Windows NT ver 4.0 just like on a machine
     with Windows 3.1 or 3.11.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-ianmel (ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/17/97 1:50 PM


On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Michael Teufert <michael.teufert@ON-LINE.DE> wrote:

mi> Now I have another question refer the transmission baud rate between the
mi> 200lx an the PC via TFWIN200. Why 's HP warning ("... a transmission
mi> rate of
mi> more than 19200 Baud makes high demands on your Personal Computer..")? I
mi> tried it several times with 57.600 baud and it worked without any
mi> problems.

Can't ever remember seeing that msg Mike and I use transfile at the
highest rate (57600) all the time. But how can 19200 tax either pc when
the cpack software runs comfortably at 115200 baud...?

Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:25:25 -0800
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Just noticed this today...
My PCMCIA door doesn't "spring" anymore.  It's almost like the spring's broken
(which I don't think it is) or it's just worn out.  My unit is a 4mb unit made
the 49th week of 1996.  I bought it from Fry's Electronics at the end of Jan.,
1997.

I regularly swap cards between my 2 10 mb flash cards and my modem... Could I
have busted the door through the card swaps?  My old 100LX never exhibited this
trouble, and I did the same amount of swapping.  I always have a card in the
slot... Could the spring have lost its "sprung" from always being in the
tensioned position?

Bummer, though.  First the hinge crack, now this... It looks like I might have
to perform exploratory surgery.  I am having this nightmare vision of a little
steel chunk floating around in the guts of my 200, waiting for its chance to
short something out.  :(

Bill

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:44:17 +1300
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Bryan Pearson wrote:
>
> I could not find this download on the Lotus site.
>
Hi Bryan
Goto:
http://www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/Agenda/dos/2.0/misc/

where you will see:

ag_disk.zip Sep 17 1997    1M  Complete set of Disk Images for Agenda
2.0
ag_upb.zip  Sep 17 1997  664K  Lotus Agenda 2.0B Update Installation
legal.zip   Jun 18 1997   29K  Agenda 2.0 Legal Applications
pifico.zip  Jun 29 1997   770  PIF and ICON Files for Agenda 2.0

Download the lot

Cheers

John
Remove "NOSPAM." from reply address OR mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:47:32 -0500
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I found a document describing installing Agenda on a 95LX.  In summary ...

The following files are needed for a minimum Agenda installation:

  A.EXE
  AGENDA.RI
  PLANNER.AG (or whatever working file you've created xxx.AG)

These files require 834k of RAM file space.

The program needs a minimum of 435k RAM to run, but by allowing the use of the maximum available RAM, you can
double the program's speed.  Using EMM is also recommended.

To speed up operation of Agenda, you should:
  1. Start Agenda using whatever working file you are using (PLANNER.AG)
  2. Select F10Ýmenu¨ -> FÝile¨ -> PÝroperties¨
  3. Highlight "Auto-assign setting" and press the space bar
  4. Turn:
     Assignment conditions OFF
     Assignment actions OFF
     Text matching ON
  5. Hit Enter twice

Keep item entries short and enter details in notes.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/17/97 4:30:00 PM EST
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:53:57 -0700
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I believe the multitasking aspect of Desqview relies on your having a 386 or
better CPU.

> You can easily have DOS programmes running in several different 512K
> programme areas at the same time.

The programs are not running at the same time, yes? Software Carousel
does not do multi-tasking? It swaps programs in and out, depending on
which you want to use at that moment, but the others do not run in
the background? In other words, it's rather like the Sys Man, except
you can run more than one DOS session?


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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:01:10 -0800
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Good afternoon everyone...

My compliments to all on conducting and very informative and often
humorous mail list.

I have been using my 200lx for about a year now, and as tempting as it
may be at times to have the latest and greatest(???), I just cannot give
up my 200lx.

It is amazing how often I am finding new uses for it, even in a Windows
day and age.

I am contemplating a memory upgrade, and was wondering if anyone knew of
a good article explaining the differences between the various type of
memory cards (i.e. ATA Flash, SRAM, etc.) and which ones are compatible
with the 200lx.

Thank you very much in advance.

Bradley Johnson
Platinum Software Corporation
bjohnson@platsoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:15:00 -0800
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On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Bryan Pearson wrote:

> I believe the multitasking aspect of Desqview relies on your having a 386 or
> better CPU.
>
> > You can easily have DOS programmes running in several different 512K
> > programme areas at the same time.
>
> The programs are not running at the same time, yes? Software Carousel
> does not do multi-tasking? It swaps programs in and out, depending on
> which you want to use at that moment, but the others do not run in
> the background? In other words, it's rather like the Sys Man, except
> you can run more than one DOS session?

I think DV can multi-task in a pre-386 CPU.

Check out the white-paper from QuarterDeck at:

        http://www.qdeck.com/technote/286.html

which describes the operation of DV on 8088,8086,80286 processors.

In brief, he says:

"Many users ask if DESQview can multitask on a 286 machine. The fact is,
DESQview can multitask on ANY processor in the Intel 8086 family, or its
compatibles. This includes the 8088, the 8086, the NEC V20 and V30, the
80286, the 80386 (in both the SX and DX flavors), and the i486 and i486SX"

The paper is dated 1992, that's why there's no ref to pentiums.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:15:02 -0500
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For Sale:
HP200LX 2meg palmtop that has been upgraded to 6meg.
Excellent condition, no scratches on the screen, hinges are perfect, case
latch is perfect. Original manuals, and box included.

2  10meg HP Flash cards (f1013a)
1  AC/DC Adapter  HP (f1011a)
HP Connectivity Pack

Make me an offer. I will break up the package to sell individual parts.

Email me for more info: julies@iquest.net

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:23:41 -0500
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no deskview will multitask even on a 8088 but it is slow

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From:         "Jean F. Feldman, DVM" <PalmtopVet@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Flash card prices
Comments: To: itstmp2@wmc.edu

   I've been sorting through the prices as well.  I will have to upgrade soon
and need at least a 64 MB card which I will then stack.   Magic Ram (they
make their own cards) will sell such a card for $649.  Their price for a 40
MB card is $449.  I would also like to know what the difference in price is
between that and say a card marketed by IBM.
   Does anyone have a Magic Ram card and does it work well?   What other
(bigger) size cards does NECX sell?
    Thanks.   Jean F. Feldman, DVM
                   Hamburg, NY

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Mitch,

That appears to be the problem.  I called my ISP and they gave me a
web site to pick up the news groups.

Thanks,

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:46:18 +0000
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Andreas,

I checked with the ISP.  It won't work.

Thanks,

Jim

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Text of message from PalmtopVet@AOL.COM, 17 Nov 1997, 06:12 PM
>Ý...¨
>    Does anyone have a Magic Ram card and does it work well?  What other
> (bigger) size cards does NECX sell?
>     Thanks.   Jean F. Feldman, DVM
>                    Hamburg, NY

I have a 40 Meg Magic Ram card which was manufactured by SunDisk and I
love it.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Is there anyway to automate the On + / key combination to invert the screen?

Also, is there any way to decrease the power down timeout on the LX,
which is 180 secs by default. I'm sure I saw something regarding this
someplace.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:21:02 -0500
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Comments: To: jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu

   I had a couple of batteries heat up in my pocket a year ago... I think
because I shorted them out with my keys.  Maybe you did something similar.
 Jean F. Feldman,DVM
Hamburg, NY

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:19:16 -0800
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Thanks "to the list" for all the help with Agenda, EMM200, etc.  Now, how
can I tell if a program is using EMS?  Agenda seems to run much, much
faster with EMM, so that one is easy, although there doesn't seem to be
anyway to check.

Also, if I decide to decrease the number of 'pages' (the size of the
EMM200.dat file) devoted to EMS, how do I go about doing that?  Rerun the
makeems program?

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:30:46 -0700
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Hi,
        More questions on the simple cards.  I went to the NECX homepage and
they have several types of Simple cards for very good prices.  Does anyone
know what Simple cards are compatible with the 200LX?  There are a list of
the cards available there at this address:
http://necxdirect.necx.com:8002/cgi-bin/auth/:guest/simple_q?cifilelnk=0001039
Let me know if any of the Simple cards at this page work.

Thanks,
Kevin Barnhart
itstmp2@wmc.edu

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Ian,
         I am using version 1.6 of the EXP driver (LXMDRV.SYS 11 012
bytes 12-25-95) and version 1.25 of the JAM driver (JAM.SYS 12 574
3-10-95). I recall using JAM to set up two compressed drives on 4MB flash
part of the EXP flash/modem. I set up one which was about 1/4 of the
total and the other to about 3/4 of the total 4MB. (I had a valid but
obscure reason for doing this.) I could have left one of the partitions
uncompressed.


From the JAM 1.25 documentation (JAM.DOC) you can specify the amount of
the drive you want to compress (and hence only compress part of your
flash drive) using the /S switch:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    2.3. Creating JAM Archive File

Now, you should find an appropriate Host Drive. This is the physical
drive on which you will create the JAM Archive File (You may refer to
Appendix A in this manual to get familiar with the JAM terminology).

Then look how much free space has your Host Drive (say, drive D:),
using, for example the DOS's DIR command:

    C:\>DIR D:

and determine amount of it you want to compress (in an example below we
will allocate 1000K bytes for the JAM Archive File).  Please note, that
amount of space you can define as a JAM Archive should not be less than
72K bytes and not greater than 512M bytes.

Finally, you should assign the name for new JAM File to create (say,
FIRST) and type:

    C:\>JCREATE D:FIRST /A /S=1000
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also see the JAM Readme.doc for an explanantion of how to set up two JAM
drives.

I can forward my config.sys if you are interested in the order I load my
drivers.

Cheers,
Kurt

On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Ian Melville wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:42:04 +0800, Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:
>
> ku> I have an EXP 4MB Flash / modem and I have used JAM to compress =
> part of
> ku> it and later all of it. It didn't seem too difficult at the time, =
> I just
> ku> read some parts of the JAM manuals. I can't recall all of the details =
> but
> ku> if there is enough interest I will dig up what configuration I =
> used along
> ku> with the version of JAM and the version of the EXP driver.
>
> Hi Kurt. I would be very interested to learn how you accomplished
> this. Could you look for your notes/details and send them along? If
> they are very detailed then it may be better to send to me directly
> instead of on the list.
>
> Thanks in advance! <g>
>
> Regards,
>

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:08:34 -0800
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Jean F. Feldman, DVM wrote:

>    I had a couple of batteries heat up in my pocket a year ago... I think
> because I shorted them out with my keys.  Maybe you did something similar.


I do this all the time.  Just today I had a 9 volt nicad in my pocket and
there was a foil gum wrapper in there.  I was just working out a parametric
equation for a cycloid when suddenly I felt this familiar pain in my leg... :)

--
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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:04:18 -0500
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On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, "A. van der Sluis" <slui1@EURONET.NL> wrote:

sl> Yesterday, using Netscape, I downloaded a shareware program,
sl> a Zipfile, called Easy Project.
sl> What do I do next? Where do I install the zip file?, where/how =
do I extract
sl> it, with what if applicable?,

To extract the contents of this (and any 'zipped') archive you will
need a copy of pkunzip.exe - should be available on the net someplace.
Next drop to a dos prompt (in the dir where the zip file resided) and
type:

pkunzip Ýzipfile name¨ Ýdestination drive¨/Ýdestination dir¨

note that the destination path must already exist.

sl> how do I then get it into the cpack200, so
sl> that I can transfer it to the 200LX?

Start the cpack from dos (not a dos box under win95) by typing
'app200' at a prompt. Open the filer application in cpack, link to =
the
palmtop w/the serial cable and transfer the file/s...

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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:21:34 -0600
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I use my 200LX for allkinds of serious stuff, but every now and then I
like to have a little fun also. I know that there are a lot of old CGA
games available on the Net for download along with lots of games that
have been written speciffically for the 200LX. I'm just curious if anyone
has considered setting up a site that would be for games and other
entertaing items which run well on the LX series of computers? Happy
palmtopping everyone!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:55:41 +0100
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              Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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>   Does anyone have a Magic Ram card and does it work well?   What other
>(bigger) size cards does NECX sell?

They have the Simple Technology 40MB ATA flash card listed for $290 or so,
which seems an incredible prize to me. Has anybody any experiences with
these cards ?

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:06:44 -0500
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You can send a street map to any fax software like winfax.  Save the
fax document and save it as a 1 bit pcx file.  I use this method for
getting maps to work with gpscga- a moving map/gps program for my
200LX.

good luck.

Xerxez


******************************
How does one go about creating/converting these maps?

I would be interested in the Southern California area with some
degree
of detail.

Can the maps from Microsoft's Expedia Streets be used?

Just curious.

Brad

Xerxez M. Calilung, D.D.S.
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http://dentalarts.com

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:04:17 -0500
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Do you have a recent vintage 2MB 200LX.  There is a special fix for that
model from the original Japanese author.

Curt

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:30:43 GMT
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Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:20:07 +1300 (NZDT)

6 days 03h31m43s ago ...
On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:48:24 -0800 (PST), Philip Seyer wrote:

ps> I think by definition  *Visual* Basic or *Visual* anything is a =
windows
ps> program, not DOS.
ps> Quick Basic is DOS.

I have Visual Basic 1.00 for DOS. Runs fine on the palmtop. Uses EMS
too! It dates from August 1992. Possibly it is still available?

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:30:49 GMT
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Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:25:34 +1300 (NZDT)

5 days 07h54m23s ago ...
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:31:11 -0500, Glen Bergs wrote:

gc> No sorry that definition won't work there is a Visual Basic for =
Dos ver
gc> 1.0. I was able to get it with help from the list and it seems =
to work
gc> very well. It is very different from Quick Basic 4.5. Thanks to =
everyone
gc> who helped.

You can run QB4.5 bas files in VB1.0 though. Alt-F-O(pen) and change
the *.mak to *.bas and load in your bas program and Shift-F5 and off =
it
runs, most of the time. VB has a few new keywords like "Year", "Second"
etc that you may have to rename if they are variables in your program.
Handy if you want bigger arrays than QB can handle. Produces quite =
fast
executables too - with same keystrokes as QB4.5.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:15:05 -1
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On 1997-11-17 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I'm new to this list, can anyone point me at a product to
   >synchronise MS Outlook Calendar to the HP200LX ?  I've been using
   >Intellilink Plus with Schedule+, but we are about to be moved over
   >to Outlook.  Puma don't seem to have support for this combination
   >in IntelliSync - you can have Outlook for the Palm Pilot but not
   >the 200LX.
   >William D.Ll.Brown
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It seems to be very difficult to synchronise with outlook. I know for
example that psion is develloping it for over a year now (they say). The only
organizer so far which can synchronise with outlook is the palmpilot. My
advise is to keep schedule+ (next to outlook if you like) and use this pgm.

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:04:31 -0700
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Subject:      Lotus Agenda FAQ

Hi there -

I have a FAQ written by a member of the LOTUSB Forum on CompuServe on the
uses and using Agenda.

If anyone would like a copy, please email me "briang@writme.com".

As a long-time user of Agenda on my desktop (and now my 200lx), Agenda is a
great program but requires reqular maintenance using the ag_chk utility.

I cannot stress enough that you should make a regular check of the file and
back it up.

The ag_chk utility will also attempt to fix the corrupt file but it is not
always 100%, specially if it has been some time since the last check.  The
file doesn't just become corrupt all at once but seems there is a
compounding effect until finally the last straw.

The file I run on my desktop (486sl) is about 3.5MB, too large for my
palmtop.  I usually break out from my main file, items which I want to carry
around with me.

If anyone would like questions answered, I will do my best.


Cheers


Brian Girling
Travel Ventures Canada Inc.     http://users.ica.net/girling/ventures

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:10:50 -0500
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I have noticed that there has been continued interest on this list for Lotus Agenda.

This is a very complex program and it's hard to get a handle on whether or not this software will provide some
value to various users on the list.

I have a copy of the text of a very informative article on Lotus Agenda by an experienced user that might
provide some insight onto this very complex software.

It's too long to post to the list.  So, if you're interested in a copy just e-mail me direct to the address
below by Wednesday (11/19) and I'll send you a copy.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/18/97 8:10:05 AM EST
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:26:21 -0500
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Several people have been asking about Magnify.

ACE made a program called Magnify, an exm which worked well on an 100lx and
200lx for viewing magnified shots of sysman (built-in) apps.  It works best
when the database apps (phone and dbase,etc) are in list mode, rather than
in datacard mode.

Hiroyuki Sekiya produced an exm program, Zoom, which smartly determines
your viewing mode and adjusts its level of zoom accordingly (largest for
datacard).  It doesn't zoom through as many levels as Magnify, but it works
well for the 200lx, and it's FREE.

Get it at:
ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/zoom110.zip

You should also install:
ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/mrexm160.zip

Both are about 8Kb, and moreexm requires a couple K of sysram, but it is
worth it for the extra apps.

See the palmtop site for many, many more EXMs that work with moreexm:
Clipvue
DosLine
Filini
Tasklist
123g
gs

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:29:12 PST
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Typer at S.U.P.E.R. site

The TYPER program I mentioned a couple of weeks ago is now on the Super
site.  Typer makes a game out of practicing your typing speed and
accuracy on the HPLX.

That close up picture of the dreaded hinge crack is also on the Super
site in the 'More &...' page.

Thanks Mitch!

Russ

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:11:06 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Inverting the screen
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On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:

> Is there anyway to automate the On + / key combination to invert the screen?
>
> Also, is there any way to decrease the power down timeout on the LX,
> which is 180 secs by default. I'm sure I saw something regarding this
> someplace.

Look in http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

and do a search for "timeout". That will let you reset the power down
time.

I don't know about the screen inversion...sure there must be
something somewhere tho.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:24:33 -0800
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On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Thanks "to the list" for all the help with Agenda, EMM200, etc.  Now, how
> can I tell if a program is using EMS?  Agenda seems to run much, much
> faster with EMM, so that one is easy, although there doesn't seem to be
> anyway to check.

If you can "shell" out to DOS, run the "mem" command which will show the
amount of EMS memory available and the amount currently in use.

> Also, if I decide to decrease the number of 'pages' (the size of the
> EMM200.dat file) devoted to EMS, how do I go about doing that?  Rerun the
> makeems program?

I use Times2Tech's "tremm", so I can't help you there.

- Longden

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"Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM> wrote:

> > Is there anyway to automate the On + / key combination to invert=
 the
> screen?
> >
> > Also, is there any way to decrease the power down timeout on the=
 LX?
<snip...>

> Look in http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
>
> and do a search for "timeout". That will let you reset the power down
> time.


Buddy & VClock both allow resetting the timeout.  AFAIK - Both are
available on SUPER.  HDM (also on SUPER) has an option for launching=
 a
DOS app with the screen inverted.  Unfortunately, some programs put=
 the
setting back, and you have to do it manually anyway.  8-(

PR
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Hi, I want to to run a program that only runs with VGA resolution in my
200LX.

Is there a SW to emulate VGA resolution for the 200LX?

Thanks

Eduardo

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:09:17 +0800
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Can anyone tell me the ACE web site address.

Thanks,

Raymond

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:17:34 -0800
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On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> You can run QB4.5 bas files in VB1.0 though. Alt-F-O(pen) and change
> the *.mak to *.bas and load in your bas program and Shift-F5 and off it
> runs, most of the time. VB has a few new keywords like "Year", "Second"
> etc that you may have to rename if they are variables in your program.
> Handy if you want bigger arrays than QB can handle. Produces quite fast
> executables too - with same keystrokes as QB4.5.

I have a copy of VB 1.0/Professional and QB 4.2 (neither loaded on the LX
nor on a PC). Can you tell me what does VB do for me that QB doesn't?

How much disk space does your VB install take?

- Longden

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---<snip>---
>Can anyone tell me where I can obtain Magnify software.
Raymond
---<snip>---

Yes, Shier Software sells it for about $19.00. I ordered it two weeks ago but haven't received it yet so can't tell you how it works.
www.shier.com
By the way, I am sill curious about how to use the dspctl.com file in D:\BIN directory. Someone surely knows how.


Ken Moore

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Hi folks -

My "e" key is starting to stick on my 200lx.  Therefore, my correct
email address to request the FAQ should be:  briang@writeme.com


BTW, the minimum installation on the palmtop is:

        A.EXE           677,282
        AGENDA.RI       169,858
        AGENDA.ENV        1,298 (created for your own setup and size
varies)

Run Agenda by A.EXE under MAXDOS.

This minimalist setup will NOT allow you to print or preview printing.
I suggest you setup a full version on your desktop under DOS and run
AGENDA.EXE for all features to work.

On my 2MB 200lx I have set up Agenda on my A Drive card, set an
environment variable in my autoexec.bat as SET AG_TMP=A:\ and also SET
AG_ENV=A:\ , the latter pointing to where I have my AGENDA.ENV located.

Brian

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HP>Can anyone tell me the ACE web site address.

   Raymond, i think that ACE TECHNOLIGIES is out of bussiness.

   Some of third people are selling their products, like shier (with
   magnify)


   martin
   marseb@giga.com.ar

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Subject:      Re: TFWIN200: Transmission rate of more than 19.200

   >Hi!
   >I also use TFWin 200 and have seen that massage but as 19200 was to
   >slow I changed it to the highest rate and no problem on my Windows
   >NT 4.0 machine at work or my Windows 95 machine at home. BTW the HP
   >connectivity pack works on a Windows NT ver 4.0 just like on a
   >machine with Windows 3.1 or 3.11.
   >Helmut in Colorado
Does anyone know if there is a very good reason why tfwinn200 doesn't have
the 115200 speed option? If I use w32filer on this speed it works allright.
Anyone?

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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On 1997-11-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Is there anyway to automate the On + / key combination to invert
   >the screen?
   >Also, is there any way to decrease the power down timeout on the LX,
   >which is 180 secs by default. I'm sure I saw something regarding
   >this someplace.
   >Cheers,
   >Kurt
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To the first question I do't have an answer. But you can increase/decrease
the power-down-time by using the lxpro program on the super-site. you can
set it (in version 1.4) to 1/2/3/4/5/10/30/60 minutes or disable the
auto-power-off function. Be carefull with this last option. It costed me a
new backup battery and: No, I didn't have a recent backup!
greetings,
Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:46:08 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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Under NT3.51 and NT4.0 you could not get reliable connections higher
than 57600.
Only a comment, you would need to ask the programs why.

Stephen Souza
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bas Pruijn ÝSMTP:126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL¨
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 12:29 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: TFWIN200: Transmission rate of more than 19.200
>
> Does anyone know if there is a very good reason why tfwinn200 doesn't
> have
> the 115200 speed option? If I use w32filer on this speed it works
> allright.
> Anyone?
>
> Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
>
>

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At 10:08 AM 11/18/97 -0500, Gary Girling wrote:

>I have attached the FAQ which was written by Gary Oliver some time ago.
>I got his permission to distribute his FAQ to whomever wants it as long
>as the credit info is shown at the top.  See text file attached.

The Agenda FAQ is now HTMLized and resides here:

http://www.palmtop.net/agenda.html

Let me know if there are any booboos in the translation.

Mitch

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:47:00 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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I have had my HP 200 LX upgraded to a 5 meg by Notebook supply warehouse. I
was wondering if any can tell me which EMM works with the upgrade.

Thanks,

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:45:25 -0800
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Good Morning,

Can anyone recommend a comm packeage I can use for direct connect PPP?
I'm going to be configuring a bunch of routers and would rather do it with
the 200lx than with a laptop if possible. Any experiences or caveats would
be helpful too.

Bill Buzan

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:40:31 PST
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              Jeff Jones <jeffj@HPCMRA.SJ.HP.COM>
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Hello,
A few months ago someone posted some info on how to set
up the ToDo list in the appointment book so that you
can catagorize the list, i.e all the work stuff grouped
together and all the home stuff together.  I think it had
to do with coding the Priority flag.

Can anyone repost or point me to the info?  I've looked
in the archives, but haven't been able to find it (OK, I'm
lazy and didn;t want to wade through 6 months of old digests).

thanks in advance
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:57:55 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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>Can anyone recommend a comm packeage I can use for direct connect PPP?

WWW/LX will handle it with no sweat. I used it to set up a PPP connection so
I could surf the web on my palmtop by serial cabling to my Linux box. Don't
know WHY I wanted to do that with a 21" X Server witting right in front of
me, but I get in these moods...

There is also a package called DOSPPP on Simtel which might work; haven't
tried it.

Mitch

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:21:53 -0500
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              "Morgan, Richard" <rmorgan@BTG.COM>
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Jeff-

I use the priority field in To-Do list thusly:

W1, W2, etc.   = This was for wedding details, married 3 weeks ago.
P1, etc            =  Personal details such as buy groceries, pay bills,
etc.

1,2,3, etc         =  Work "to-do" items, such as "Test program" or
"send email to Joe"
                           By not coding these with an alpha character,
they go directly to the top of the list.

I use my 200lx mostly for work details.  These codings allow me to sort
items by topic, yet still maintain the numeric priority within each
subject.  Obviously, W1=picking up tuxedo for wedding and W4=send
thank-you notes as gifts arrive.

Good luck.  Email me if you need any more assistance.

Richard

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>From:  Jeff JonesÝSMTP:jeffj@HPCMRA.SJ.HP.COM¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 1997 1:40 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Setting Priorities in Appt Book
>
>Hello,
>A few months ago someone posted some info on how to set
>up the ToDo list in the appointment book so that you
>can catagorize the list, i.e all the work stuff grouped
>together and all the home stuff together.  I think it had
>to do with coding the Priority flag.
>
>Can anyone repost or point me to the info?  I've looked
>in the archives, but haven't been able to find it (OK, I'm
>lazy and didn;t want to wade through 6 months of old digests).
>
>thanks in advance
>--
>  jeff
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              Mark Sailer <msailer@ML.COM>
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For Sale

InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
Runs on 9v battery or AC Adapter(included)
Includes shortened and modified HP cable
        (NO NULL Adapter needed)

Box, manuals and DOS software
Excellent Condition

$100 plus shipping

Email Direct if interested.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:40:42 -0800
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> I am also interested to know if there is someplace to find daylight
> savings info.

Ok:

Europe did change its rules for changing over to winter time,
in order to align with the British. For 96 and 97 we will
change over only in the last weekend of October.

To fix European daylight savings: Use D:\_sys\timezone.dat and
edit:

 European
 3:25-31 6 1:00
 10:25-31 6 0:00   <--- new
 Northern
 4:1-7    6 1:00
 10:25-31 6 0:00
 Southern
 3:1-7    6 0:00
 10:25-31 6 1:00

Take out the first space of each line!

copy to C:\_DAT\TIMEZONE.DAT

Portguese cities adjustment in Worldtime: they decided this
year to align (again) with the English hour. Open the
Worldtime App, and for all the Portugese towns change the
'Time Offset From' 'Hours' from '1:00' to '0:00'. I have Faro,
Funchal, Lisbon, Oporto and Vila do Porto. Vila do Porto must
be set to '-1:00'. (May already be so in the file).

  (: Avi M. :) ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:46:10 -0800
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Jim, you addresses this to Andreas, but let me jump in, in
case he has not yet. It seems your ISP will not let you read
news off its server if you are not directly logged on. There
is not much that Post/LX Client program can do about it!

There is no way to "cheat".

With the email off the POP3 this is now possible from your ISP
(i.e. login via CIS, and obtain email form your ISPs POP3
server), but there are many ISPs that do not allow it (e.g.
AT&T recently tightened up, and now you may not get your email
from their POP3 server except when you login directly!)

The DNS in this case is not significant: DNS is used when the
program is trying to find the IP (123.456.789.012 style
number) for a URL given as http://xyz.pqr.com or some such. So
that has no bearing on the accessibility to the newsgroup
server.

But you never know what tricks 'lexu (the author of NEWS.EXE)
is devising now! :-)...

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:55:16 -0800
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              Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Thanks Mitch!  It was very helpful of you to post the Agenda FAQ on your
website.  I have referred a number of people to it already.

My installation is as follows:

HP 200LX 2M
20M flash card
Software Carousel
Expanded ram via EMM200 (downloaded from S.U.P.E.R)

I run Lotus Agenda in a 512K programme area in Software Carousel.  Lotus
Agenda is very fast on a Pentium 90 notebook that I use to back up my flash
card.  Unfortunately it is not as fast on the 200LX;  however, the
advantage of having Lotus Agenda available on the Palmtip for constant use
outweighs the speed of Agenda under the 80186 processor in the 200LX.

I wish that Lotus would bring Agenda back into the fold and do regular
upgrades.  However, there are a number of companion products (President's
Planner, Beyond 2) that have provided upgrading like support.

Again, that for putting the FAQ on your web site.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:56:07 -0500
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I have also come across a text file of an old article describing how to install Agenda 2.0 on a HP 95LX.

Much of the info also applies to 100/200LX's.

I am planning to also send a copy of this to all who have requested a copy of the article describing Agenda's
functionality, about which I posted to the list earlier today.

If you have not requested a copy of the above article and would like a copy of the installation instructions,
e-mail me directly by Wednesday (11/19).
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/18/97 3:49:34 PM EST
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Mitch:

<< > > When I dial directly to my ISP, the login and news reader work =
great.
> >  How do I get it to work through Compuserve?
>
> Most news hosts do not allow "foreign" connects. They do this to =
keep spam and
> other unwanted postings from originating at their site, and to decrease =
the
> load on their connections.

Your point about Spammers is mostly true for email. With
Newsgroups it is simply a matter of load on the server.
Newsgroups is a pure service to customers, and does not in
itself provide anything that the ISP can charge for. IOW, it
is a a pure expense. The minimize the need to make the servers
large machines when demand is growing, the ISPs limit the
access to those who direct connect. So yes, I agree, and just
amplified.

  (: Avi M. :) ÝD&A¨

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GPS on an HP-LX???

Please enlighten me. I LOVE toys.

Jorgen
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>Your point about Spammers is mostly true for email. With
>Newsgroups it is simply a matter of load on the server.

My ISP is sensitive about the origination of messages, also. They do not
want cross-posted/spam messages to get into the USENET from One Net
Communications.

Finally, since a great percentage of USENET traffic is smut mining (over 85%
on the one.net servers) and many of the public services do not carry the
alt.binaries newsgroups, it is a HUGE decrease in load to keep your newsfeed
only for your subscribers.

Mitch

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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> GPS on an HP-LX???
> Please enlighten me. I LOVE toys.

I have a review of some GPS hardware/software that works with the 200LX
on my site.

--
Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Has anybody been able to install Agenda onto a Win95 computer? I'm trying to
follow those directions that mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM gave and I never can get
the install program to run. It keeps saying "Program too big to fit in memory"
error.



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> GPS on an HP-LX???
>
> Please enlighten me. I LOVE toys.
>
> Jorgen

Jorgen,

I use a Delorme Tripmate and LXGPS (you can find it at the SUPER
site) with maps that I copy from Autoroute Express to Paint Shop Pro
where I transform them to monochrome and save as PCX 1 bit. It works
very well. The new version of LXGPS (due to arrive soon acording to
Greg, its author) even allows you to set the 200LX clock from the GPS
time.

Regards

Antonio



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Greetings to the list/fount of all knowledge!
I'm trying to install EMM200 and have read the installation instructions
but can't seem to get it to work. Here's what I'm doing (wrong):
I installed the emm.exe and makeems.exe in the c drive.
For example, if i run emm200.exe from filer, I get 2 paragraphs one
labelled device mode and the other labelled command mode and under them i=
s
" press any key to exit from dos."
Same thing with makeems.
Can someone help this hapless lad?
Tom,
Abu Kira
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11/19/97 =

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              "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Agenda vs InfoSelect

The Agenda FAQ mentioned in earlier posts kind of addresses this question
but here's my take on it as well.

Agenda is more demanding to learn and takes more computing power to run.
 Once you grasp the idea of how it operates on your info -you can do things
with it that you can't with any other program.  Some of the features (like
Autocomplete) that make it nice to use make it slower than you will
probably like on the palmtop.  As a portable copy of a database you
maintain on your desktop (while still able to add and manip ulate in the
field) it works out pretty well.

InfoSelect is pretty quick - less challenging to learn - very flexible and
probably
better suited to run full out on the palmtop with no great degradation of
performance.


I guess to simplify it an Agenda file is like a self organising file
cabinet and an
InfoSelect stack is kind of like a self indexing file card box.

You can enter or import items into Agenda with no idea how you want it to
be
organized - then decide what categories (think of a file folder) and views
(file
drawer?) you want to assign items to.  The power is that Agenda allows you
many ways to assign items to categories -based on what the item contains
-or
what other categories it is/isn't assigned to - etc and can do so
automatically
after you tell it how.

When you enter or import to a window in an InfoSelect stack you also don't
have to know how you want it to be organized.  You can search (GET) a
subset of the current stack and flip through them.  You can move them
around
in the stack like reordering cards in a file box.

Hope this makes sense to you.


Mike Melancon



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Are there any in this group experienced in both who can describe their
differences? Are they different enough that someone would want to run
BOTH? (on an LX).

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I'm running Agenda 2.0, as downloaded from the Lotus ftp site, in Win95.

I just ran the normal Agenda install program from Win95 and everything worked fine.

After installation, I opened Agenda's file folder, right clicked AGENDA.EXE, and selected Create Shortcut.
This created Lotus Agenda.PIF, which I dragged out to my desktop.

Double clicking the Lotus Agenda icon on my desktop starts Agenda in full screen mode.

NOTE: When installing anything in Win95, it is always a good idea to close any open applications.


--- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:21:34 -0800  David Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM> wrote:

>Has anybody been able to install Agenda onto a Win95 computer? I'm trying to
>follow those directions that mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM gave and I never can get
>the install program to run. It keeps saying "Program too big to fit in memory"
>error.
>
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/18/97 6:14:21 PM EST
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Dang it!
A kind soul made certain that I had it, then I threw the "do this"
part in the bit bucket..
How do I stack the a: flash card?
---
Finger btw@vnet.net for my PGP key
           Alba gu brath!

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I have trouble with TFWIN200 even at 19.2.  During file transfers I frequently
get the error message that I need to reconnect to the 200lx, then it dances
through several other messages including "illegal filename" although it accepts
it when I click OK.  I've had the same problem with both a Dell Pentium 90
notebook and a Cyrix 5X86-100 desktop, from both C: drive and A: drive on the
HP.  It makes backing up a real pain in the....
--
Lewis           KC7MZ     Battle Ground, WA (near Portland, OR)
Team 200LX      NRA Life
http://www.teleport.com/~losborn


Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
> Under NT3.51 and NT4.0 you could not get reliable connections higher
> than 57600.
> Only a comment, you would need to ask the programs why.
>
> Stephen Souza
> mailto:ssouza@iname.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bas Pruijn ÝSMTP:126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL¨
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 12:29 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: TFWIN200: Transmission rate of more than 19.200
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is a very good reason why tfwinn200 doesn't
> > have
> > the 115200 speed option? If I use w32filer on this speed it works
> > allright.
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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childers wrote:
>
> Just noticed this today...
> My PCMCIA door doesn't "spring" anymore. <snip>
>

Hi Bill
My 200lx did this last year and I had pushed the card in angling up
and caught the door/flap enough to drag its pivot out of its groove.
Just pull the rubber feet and remove the 4 torx #6 screws to lift
off the lower cover and reposition the flap. (backup first!)

Regards
John
Remove "NOSPAM." from reply address OR mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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              Charles & Judy Quick <quick@CYBERTAP.COM>
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Please send me a copy   - thanks in advance

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> From: mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Article on the Functionality of Lotus Agenda
> Date: November 18, 1997 8:10 AM
>
> I have noticed that there has been continued interest on this list for
Lotus Agenda.
>
> This is a very complex program and it's hard to get a handle on whether
or not this software will provide some
> value to various users on the list.
>
> I have a copy of the text of a very informative article on Lotus Agenda
by an experienced user that might
> provide some insight onto this very complex software.
>
> It's too long to post to the list.  So, if you're interested in a copy
just e-mail me direct to the address
> below by Wednesday (11/19) and I'll send you a copy.
> ______________________________________________
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:14:34 -0600
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              "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX Games

Here's a site that's still up with REALLY old games - most of the nostalgia
prone among us will find some old favorites here.

I like the Pente game - get beat most every time.  Some of them force you
to reboot to get out of the game - remember when programs were not very
well behaved?

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5803/

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From:   Jeff
Sent:   Monday, November 17, 1997 11:21 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        200LX Games

I use my 200LX for allkinds of serious stuff, but every now and then I
like to have a little fun also. I know that there are a lot of old CGA
games available on the Net for download along with lots of games that
have been written speciffically for the 200LX. I'm just curious if anyone
has considered setting up a site that would be for games and other
entertaing items which run well on the LX series of computers? Happy
palmtopping everyone!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@(nospam)scott.net
Remove (nospam) to email me!
Finger me for my pager number!

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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              "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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Subject:      Keyboard Problems

My 200LX got damp and now the CTRL, Fn and left shift keys don't work.  The
ALT key does work.  When I found it wet I used a haidryer on cool to
accelerate drying and waited for a few hours before turning it on  and it
functions OK other than the 3 keys that don't work.  That was a couple of
weeks ago and I have given up hoping the problem will correct itself.

I want to try a hard reset to see if that would clear it up, but the CTRL
key doesn't work - is there any other way to invoke a hard reset short of
removing the batteries?   If I have to resort to a battery ectomy how long
does the patient have to rest before reinstalling the batteries to insure
total amnesia?

What other steps can I take - I dread taking the little jewel apart.

Thanks in advance

Mike

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:45:39 -0800
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From:         Lewis Osborn <losborn@TELEPORT.COM>
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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> GPS on an HP-LX???
>
> Please enlighten me. I LOVE toys.

Me, too! And this is an especially cool toy! <G>

I use LXGPS, which you can download from S.U.P.E.R. - although, check with the
author, he's got a v1.1 out - with a Garmin 12XL, although it should work with
any GPS with an NMEA output.  The software allows you to monitor the raw data
from the GPS, check your location, and display satellite information.  You can
also create you own maps and watch your "bread crumb" trail, as well as navigate
to waypoints, either using those on an included list, or creating your own.
Most of these things are available using the GPS alone, but, by using the lx,
you can monitor two screens - on on the GPS and one on the lx, you can place the
GPS where it has a better view of the sky, since you don't have to watch its
screen, and you have the larger memory of the lx to save data in.

I'm sure others have other uses and thoughts, which I look forward to hearing.

--
Lewis           KC7MZ     Battle Ground, WA (near Portland, OR)
Team 200LX      NRA Life
http://www.teleport.com/~losborn

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:19:43 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Comments: To: Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Where do you find President's Planner and Beyond 2?

At 12:55 PM 11/18/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Thanks Mitch!  It was very helpful of you to post the Agenda FAQ on your
>website.  I have referred a number of people to it already.
>
>My installation is as follows:
>
>HP 200LX 2M
>20M flash card
>Software Carousel
>Expanded ram via EMM200 (downloaded from S.U.P.E.R)
>
>I run Lotus Agenda in a 512K programme area in Software Carousel.  Lotus
>Agenda is very fast on a Pentium 90 notebook that I use to back up my flash
>card.  Unfortunately it is not as fast on the 200LX;  however, the
>advantage of having Lotus Agenda available on the Palmtip for constant use
>outweighs the speed of Agenda under the 80186 processor in the 200LX.
>
>I wish that Lotus would bring Agenda back into the fold and do regular
>upgrades.  However, there are a number of companion products (President's
>Planner, Beyond 2) that have provided upgrading like support.
>
>Again, that for putting the FAQ on your web site.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:41:56 -0800
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Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:
>
> Is there anyway to automate the On + / key combination to invert the screen?
>
> Also, is there any way to decrease the power down timeout on the LX,
> which is 180 secs by default. I'm sure I saw something regarding this
> someplace.
>
> Cheers,
> Kurt

LXSTAT from SUPER SITE will do both of those things plus a whole lot
more. It's only like 14k and I have it on the path. Lets one view/change
Video / sound / battery / timeout / serial port  and more.

Darren.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:27:37 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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I had such a file some years ago -- a list of 100,000 words or so.
Don't know where it is now.  I was using it to figure out
which words to use to phone numbers.

Cost was about $4.95 from some shareware house.
You can probably download a word list file somewhere.
If  I find it I will let you know.


At 06:56 PM 11/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
>The one thing I have constantly looked for is a word list that can be easily
>accessed.  Sort of a dictionary, but not necessarily the defs.   I was going
>to scan in the one book I have but that is a horrendous project.   I have
>dislexia and I need to just look up the spelling of a word.    None that I
>have found so far are what I have been looking for.
>
>Ideas?
>
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>
Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Subject:      95lx misbehavin'
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My 95 lx has had low main battery warnings for a long while, even with
brand new batteries, then the screen started to now display until I either:
1) massaged it with thumb & index finger back of lid; or maybe 2) things
warmed up due to above raising the ambient temp of the screen (?).... I
bought a 300 lx as a replacement, an a/c adapter on a whim and now the
screen is visible on boot up but I still get "low main battery" warning
EVERY TIME I turn it on.   tried new charged NICADs, new Alkalines, no
difference, even examined the insides (gore to the novice) with no obvious
solution.... ANYBODY ELSE BEEN HERE?  It's now a back up on AC only since I
can't trust the low bat, low back up bat message to be inaccurate ( lost my
MAJOR phone book & scheduler more than once!)... HELP if possible.  I still
like it better than the CE/300LX

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warnings for a long while, even with brand new batteries, then the =
screen started to now display until I either: 1) massaged it with thumb =
&amp; index finger back of lid; or maybe 2) things warmed up due to =
above raising the ambient temp of the screen (?).... I bought a 300 lx =
as a replacement, an a/c adapter on a whim and now the screen is visible =
on boot up but I still get &quot;low main battery&quot; warning EVERY =
TIME I turn it on. &nbsp;&nbsp;tried new charged NICADs, new Alkalines, =
no difference, even examined the insides (gore to the novice) with no =
obvious solution.... ANYBODY ELSE BEEN HERE? &nbsp;It's now a back up on =
AC only since I can't trust the low bat, low back up bat message to be =
inaccurate ( lost my MAJOR phone book &amp; scheduler more than =
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              Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Subject:      Re: Lotus Agenda/Beyond 2/President's Partner
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Claud,

You wrote:

>Where do you find President's Planner and Beyond 2?

I cannot really give a full report on Beyond 2 because I have just ordered
a copy for myself.  It has been highly praised by some other Lotus Agenda
aficionados whose opinions I respect.

For the record, I have absolutely no connection, financial, personal, or
otherwise with anyone connected with either Beyond 2 or President's
Planner.  I do acknowledge a growing addiction to Lotus Agenda on my HP
200LX.  For my purposes, the heavy duty capabilities and flexibility of
Lotus Agenda have been perfect for helping to organize my somewhat chaotic
life.

I have been in contact with the developer of Agenda 2, Ron Freudenhem, who
stated in his e-mail message to me that Beyond 2 was:

"designed to extend the printing capabilities of Agenda 20, provide a
really
useful contact manager, and a variety of other functions.  There are ten
functions included in all.  It also works well with the other leading
Agenda
add-on, Alex Todd's "President's Planner".

Beyond 2.0 is $79.95 plus $5.00 shipping and handling.  If you are not
satisfied, I will refund your money within 60 days.  You also get unlimited
free technical support, so long as you pay for the telephone call.  If you
wish
to order a copy, please send a check made payable to Ronald L. Freudenhem,
and
send it to 611 Dartmouth Avenue, Silver Spring, MD 20910."

I have been attempting to contact Alex Todd with no success.  However, you
can obtain a copy of  President's Planner and Partner's Planner from the
following:

http://www.benchin.com/$index.wcgi/prod/1032840
http://www.benchin.com/$index.wcgi/cat/1035

I have not used President's Planner or Partner's Planner and cannot comment
upon either of these products.  However, the following review is taken from
a file on the CompuServe Lotus B forum:

President's Planner

Reviewed by Charles Olsen
(Reprinted from HAL-PC User Journal)

PIM Application for Lotus Agenda

How many times have you told your computer to do something, and
the stupid beast did exactly what you told it to? The idiot
should have known that you didn't really mean that, right?
Sometimes this leads to destruction (files deleted, disks
formatted, etc.), while other times the results are less dramatic
-- for example, data isn't filed where it should be.

This can easily happen with PIM (Personal Information Management)
software. Some PIM software requires you to file your data
carefully, with a rigid consistency, if you want to have any hope
of finding it again in the future.

President's Planner is a PIM designed to eliminate this type of
problem. It's an application written for Lotus Agenda, and you
must have Agenda 2.0 installed before you can install President's
Planner. (Partner's Planner is identical to President's Planner,
except that it includes a billable time module. With that
exception, everything that I say about President's Planner also
applies to Partner's Planner.)

Data entry in President's Planner (PP) is a simple process. There
are several views -- to-do's, calls, appointments, obligations to
you, diary, log, and billable time -- allowing you to look at
whatever information is appropriate at the moment. But every view
has a "Scratch Pad," where you can enter any type of information.
If you're looking at your appointments and realize that you need
to call someone, just type "call John Doe" in the Scratch Pad.
President's Planner realizes that this is a call, and puts it in
the appropriate view.

Items remain in the scratch pad until deleted, or until the next
day (PP will automatically clean them up). While an item is in
the Scratch Pad, PP tells you where it intends to file the item.
If you disagree, you can override the assignment by pressing one
of the function keys Ctrl-F1 through Ctrl-F10. (Function key
assignments are displayed at the bottom of the screen.)

You'll probably spend most of the time in the President's Day
view. (All views actually have the user's name; for example, the
views in my database are named Olsen's Day, Olsen's Phone Calls,
Olsen's Appointments, etc.) President's Day gives everything that
you need to be concerned with that day: to-do's, calls, follow
ups, obligations to you, appointments, etc. As each task is
completed, just highlight and press Agenda's "Done" key (F4), and
it disappears from the view (but not from the database).

President's Planner has a number of special features, thanks to
macros and the power text analysis capabilities of Agenda:

 * To-do's are automatically prioritized by their When dates (the
close the date, the higher the priority). You can override the
automatic priority and assign your own.

 * Certain items will transform when they're marked as Done. For
example, a phone call in which you left a message is assigned to
Left Messages, and will show up as a follow-up reminder. To-do's
asking you to send material to someone, and delegated tasks, also
transform into follow-ups.

President's Planner will also track expenses for you. You can
type the expense into an item using the word "expense," or you
can use abbreviations: $P for postage, $C for photocopy, $T for
telephone, etc.

If you're using Partner's Planner, items finished go to the
Billable Time view. You can specify the amount of time you spent
on each item, and specify which items did not represent billable
work. Partner's Planner will give you the totals for billable and
non-billable time.

President's Planner is installed into an existing Agenda
database, so you can add it into a file that you're already using
without disturbing your existing data. Partner's Planner must be
installed into the PMA.AG file (an Agenda application designed
for attorneys, available from Lotus). If you install into any
other file, President's Planner is installed.

You can create new views and categories in your PP database, and
you can add columns and sections to existing views. There are a
few restrictions to the types of modifications you can make, and
these are clearly specified in the manual.

President's Planner is like any other PIM: for it to be useful,
you have to use it every day, and it must be readily available.
Since Agenda can't run as a TSR, the best approach is to use some
type of multitasking environment such as Desqview, OS/2 or
Windows.

Phase III Computing also sells SuperMacros, Agenda macros that
are powerful additions to PP. One is called Point & View, which
allows you to highlight a word or words in an item and press
Ctrl-V. Point & View will create a category by that name and a
view with that category, and Agenda will display all occurrences
of that word or phrase. "Add New Name" is a macro that will
prompt you for the appropriate information, then add a new
Person, Company or Matter to the appropriate category.

Of all the PIMs I've used, I think President's Planner has been
the easiest to learn and put into use. You can get more out of it
if you're familiar with Agenda, but you can put it to use
immediately even if you've only just installed Agenda. The
Scratch Pad now seems like such a simple (and very useful) idea,
I wonder why no one thought of it before now.

By using Agenda as the base for personal information manager,
Phase III Computing may have truly created the first Do What I
Mean program. (As opposed to the Do What I Say approach used by
other software.)

President's Planner & Partner's Planner
Phase III Computing Inc.
88 Bloor Street East, Suite 3009
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M4W 3G9
(416) 925-8760
Requires: Lotus Agenda 2.0 (update (10-15-90 or later), 1.5M
available hard disk space. 386 with at least 2M RAM (preferably
4M or more) recommended. Multitasking environment (Desqview,
OS/2, Windows, etc.) recommended.
List price: President's Planner, $159.95; Partner's Planner,
$179.95; SuperMacros, $39.95.
Not copy protected.

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Subject:      Calc Survey style

I guess that sounds confusing.

I would like to input degrees-minutes-seconds into the calc and add/subtract
others.  Is there any way I can do that??

Thanks for any help!

Cathy

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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Comments: cc: kurtv@IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU

On 1997-11-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Ian,
   >I am using version 1.6 of the EXP driver (LXMDRV.SYS 11 012
   >bytes 12-25-95) and version 1.25 of the JAM driver (JAM.SYS 12 574
   >3-10-95). I recall using JAM to set up two compressed drives on 4MB
   >flash part of the EXP flash/modem. I set up one which was about 1/4
   >of the total and the other to about 3/4 of the total 4MB. (I had a
   >valid but obscure reason for doing this.) I could have left one of
   >the partitions uncompressed.
I'm using version 1.9 (I guess) of the exp driver. This is the newest driver
I found recently (about 3 weeks ago) on the exp website. With this driver
and jam 1.25 I cannot get jam to compress my exp-flashdisk. Is there a
difference between the 2mb and the 4mb EXP? Or is it because when I format
the exp flash using lxmflash I get 1 (one) B between  all the dots? ( I
guess one bad sector?). It doesn't matter if I try jammig 100k or the whole
2 Mb
greetings

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: FS: 14.4k Pocket Modem
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>InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
>Runs on 9v battery or AC Adapter(included)
>Includes shortened and modified HP cable
>        (NO NULL Adapter needed)
>
>Box, manuals and DOS software
>Excellent Condition
>
>$100 plus shipping

Please, DO put your feet on the ground.

Salu2. Nacho.

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Hi,

when i go on the Opus63 web site, i discover it's not the web site of
the Pocket liberator's creator : it was becoming a hard rock site !
it's not a joke :-((

Does anyone know where I'd find the new site for order this useful
palmtop holster named Pocket liberator.

thanks !

jp.oudin

oudin@club-internet.fr

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Cathy Schlim wrote:

> I guess that sounds confusing.
>
> I would like to input degrees-minutes-seconds into the calc and
> add/subtract
> others.  Is there any way I can do that??

Not confusing at all :) Go to the math functions in calc (CTRL M) and
you will see that F4 & F5 are used for converting from & to DMS. It's
confusing because HP uses Hours-minutes-seconds.

Ex. If you want to add 110-44-35 & 23-34-56 type in the following:
110.4435
press F4
type +
type 23.3456
press F4
press =
then press F5 to convert the answer back to degrees-minutes-seconds

Hope this helps

Tom Rowsell

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:51:23 -0500
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              "Nina H. Yuan" <nhy@PANIX.COM>
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For sale:

HP 200LX, 1 MB RAM, 2 yrs old (back when HP used tough plastic!),
        excellent condition (I'm pretty anal about my electronic toys)
        Asking $220

IBM 5 MB flash RAM card
        Asking $65

HP 200LX to serial cable
        Asking $15

E&B leather case, padded (I can point it out on the web page...)
        Asking $30

Asking $300 + shipping for the lot.  The HP has been great; selling
because I'm using my laptop and REX more than the HP nowadays.  Local
to the Boston area, or shipped COD.

Thanks,
-nhy

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>For those of you looking for documentation for Lotus Agenda
>2.0 that is now available in pubic domain this listing was
>downloaded from the LOTUS FTP site.  At least three of
>these publications are still available in print. I have
>ordered them from Books-A-Million but it will take at least
>six weeks for delivery.
>
>Mary Campbell     Using Agenda
>McGraw-Hill, $21.95
>
>Robert & Lauren Flast   The Lotus Guide to Agenda
>Addison-Wesley, $19.95
>
>Harry Goodman and     Using Lotus Agenda Doug Wolf
>John Wiley & Sons, Inc., $19.95
>
>Jeff Guenther and     Lotus Agenda: Information Management
>Applications Anne Wayman     TAB Books, Inc., $17.95
>
>John Ottensman and    Working with Lotus Agenda Jan
>Neuenschwander  TAB Books, Inc., $24.95
>
>William Sanders   Hands-On Lotus Agenda
>McGraw-Hill, $21.95
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:55:36 -0500
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17 November Wall Street Journal had 2 articles about palmtops. One focuse=
d
on Palm shipping their 1 millionth unit and the other focused on the
operating system war with MS. Here are a couple paragraphs from the
operating system article:

                   Microsoft tried twice to extend its Windows software
stranglehold into
                   handhelds, with products called Windows for Pens and
WinPad. Neither
                   succeeded. It launched a third major effort at last
year's Comdex: a
                   stripped-down version of Windows called Windows CE. A
half-dozen
                   manufacturers began offering Windows CE-based products=

prices at
                   around $800.

                   But sales have been dismal. Randy Giusto, an analyst
with International Data
                   Corp., estimates that just 100,000 Windows CE devices
have been sold in
                   the last year, in part because of complaints about
poor-quality display
                   screens.

             But competitors at Palm and other companies say the Windows
heritage
                   leads to overly complex software and bulky hardware, o=
ut
of step with
                   users' needs. While laptop-computer owners often switc=
h
on their machines
                   for hours at a time, a hand-held device may be on for
just a few seconds to
                   find a piece of information, Ms. Dubinsky notes. In th=
at
environment, users
                   won't tolerate a system that takes more than a second =
or
two to boot up.

             But with hand-held machines, the key may be doing a few task=
s
well -- and
                   keeping the size so small that users won't even have t=
o
think about carrying
                   them. Says Mr. Schaefer at Nissan: "The Pilot doesn't
try to do everything,
                   and that's exactly what I like about it."

The full text is available on the WSJ web page.

Phil Godden

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              mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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So far, there have been 39 requests for the 2 text files about Lotus Agenda.

I am surprised at the large interest in this software.  Maybe we should look into other ways to support Agenda
users, in addition to Mitchell's FAQ web page.  Any suggestions?

If you would like a copy of these 2 files (article about Agenda and how to install on a LX) and have not
already requested one, e-mail me at the address below today.

I'll be sending out the files Thursday morning EST.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/19/97 8:52:39 AM EST
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> Dang it!
> A kind soul made certain that I had it, then I threw the "do
> this"
> part in the bit bucket..
> How do I stack the a: flash card?

FROM MITCH's HPLX ARCHIVES...


Re: STACker 4.x on the LX

ianmel@opus.co.tt
Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:24:30 -0500

   * Messages sorted by: Ý date ¨Ý thread ¨Ý subject ¨Ý author ¨
   * Previous message: Dale Thorn: "Re: Choice of printers"
   * Maybe in reply to: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu: "STACker 4.x on the=
 LX"

hp>I don't know if there is a way to compress an existing drive on
hp>the palmtop without using a desktop. Ian, any thoughts?

Sure Al! The method you outline works (I'm told) but I've never used=
 it.
In my opinion the far easier (and much quicker) way - without involving
the desktop except to transfer files from the floppies - is as follows
(I'm assuming your card is designated drive A):

1- Start with a freshly formatted (or defragmented) card.

2- Include the following in your config.sys file:

device=3Da:\stacker.com
files=3D30
buffers=3D6 (you may use 15,5)
shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos

(Any device drivers needed to read drive A must be loaded before loading
the stacker device driver).

3- Create a file named 'stacker.ini' in the root dir of the drive you=
 will
be compressing and type the following:

/P=3D10
/EMS (only for those with EMS available on their 200LX)
/AUTO
A:\STACVOL.DSK,RP

(Save this as an ascii file with carriage returns following each line).=
 The
P=3D10 tunes Stacker for maximum compression, ie: 'MAXSPACE'. The EMS=
 switch
saves about 35K of conventional mem.

4- Copy only these files to the 200LX:

stacker.com
create.com
screxec.exe
screxec2.exe (Total: 217,079 bytes)

(These may be placed on any drive or dir but the full path will be needed
to execute them. You may remove the last 3 after rebooting and successful
completion).

5- Terminate Appmgr and type Ýdrive¨Ýpath¨ create a: /s=3D0 /r=3D2.5

This will create a hidden stacvol.dsk on drive A using all the available
space with a comp ratio calculated at 2.5:1.

6- Reboot and you're finished. Now, wasn't this *easy* <g>.

Sidebar: Stacker 3 includes a file called stackpalm.exe which makes=
 light
work of the above and even edits config.sys for you (of course version=
 3
uses no ini file).

Regards,

|     |\/||
| a n |  || e l v i l l e
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DANGER DANGER Computer store ahead...hide wallet.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:12:06 -0500
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              Ron Rivers <RonRi@BLACKBAUD.COM>
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We have a local Books-A-Million store here in Charleston, S.C.  I did
locate a  WEB site at http://www.ccgnv.net/bam/

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  mdstockr ÝSMTP:mdstockr@neo.lrun.com¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, November 19, 1997 4:02 AM
>To:    Ron Rivers
>Subject:       RE: Agenda Documentation
>
>Ron,
>
>How do you contact Book-A-Million?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Michael
>--- On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:50:33 -0500  Ron Rivers <RonRi@BLACKBAUD.COM>
>wrote:
>
>>>For those of you looking for documentation for Lotus Agenda
>>>2.0 that is now available in pubic domain this listing was
>>>downloaded from the LOTUS FTP site.  At least three of
>>>these publications are still available in print. I have
>>>ordered them from Books-A-Million but it will take at least
>>>six weeks for delivery.
>>>
>>>Mary Campbell     Using Agenda
>>>McGraw-Hill, $21.95
>>>
>>>Robert & Lauren Flast   The Lotus Guide to Agenda
>>>Addison-Wesley, $19.95
>>>
>>>Harry Goodman and     Using Lotus Agenda Doug Wolf
>>>John Wiley & Sons, Inc., $19.95
>>>
>>>Jeff Guenther and     Lotus Agenda: Information Management
>>>Applications Anne Wayman     TAB Books, Inc., $17.95
>>>
>>>John Ottensman and    Working with Lotus Agenda Jan
>>>Neuenschwander  TAB Books, Inc., $24.95
>>>
>>>William Sanders   Hands-On Lotus Agenda
>>>McGraw-Hill, $21.95
>>>
>>>
>>
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>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           11/19/97 9:02:02 AM EST
>______________________________________________

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On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Michael R. Melancon wrote:

> My 200LX got damp and now the CTRL, Fn and left shift keys don't work.  The
> ALT key does work.  When I found it wet I used a haidryer on cool to
> accelerate drying and waited for a few hours before turning it on  and it
> functions OK other than the 3 keys that don't work.  That was a couple of
> weeks ago and I have given up hoping the problem will correct itself.
>
> I want to try a hard reset to see if that would clear it up, but the CTRL
> key doesn't work - is there any other way to invoke a hard reset short of
> removing the batteries?   If I have to resort to a battery ectomy how long
> does the patient have to rest before reinstalling the batteries to insure
> total amnesia?
>
> What other steps can I take - I dread taking the little jewel apart.

What about a soft reset (normally Ctrl-Alt-Delete). You can do that from
software. Email me if you want the program...it's only 16 bytes long.

When I had a screen problem, an HP techie at Handheld Support told me to
remove all batteries, then press and hold "On" key for 30 secs to drain
all memory.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:48:23 -0500
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>They have the Simple Technology 40MB ATA flash card listed for $290 or s=
o,
which seems an incredible prize to me. Has anybody any experiences with
these cards ?
<

I bought the ATA 24MB card from Internet shopping network about 1 month
ago and love it. No problems.

chad.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:40:28 -0800
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Thanks Mitch

BB

>>Can anyone recommend a comm packeage I can use for direct connect PPP?
>
>WWW/LX will handle it with no sweat. I used it to set up a PPP connection so
>I could surf the web on my palmtop by serial cabling to my Linux box. Don't
>know WHY I wanted to do that with a 21" X Server witting right in front of
>me, but I get in these moods...
>
>There is also a package called DOSPPP on Simtel which might work; haven't
>tried it.
>
>Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:57:31 -0400
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Bas Pruijn wrote:
> I'm using version 1.9 (I guess) of the exp driver. This is the newest driver
> I found recently (about 3 weeks ago) on the exp website. With this driver
> and jam 1.25 I cannot get jam to compress my exp-flashdisk. Is there a
> difference between the 2mb and the 4mb EXP? Or is it because when I format
> the exp flash using lxmflash I get 1 (one) B between  all the dots? ( I
> guess one bad sector?). It doesn't matter if I try jammig 100k or the whole
> 2 Mb

FWIW, I was also unable to compress my 8mb exp using jam - actually it
did compress but the problem was mounting the jam drive. Although at
bootup jam reported that the drive was mounted it was not accessible...!

Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:49:32 -0600
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Simtel DOS (oak.oakland.edu) has an english word list.
It's words1.zip thru words4.zip, each about 70k zipped.

Cathy Schlim wrote:

> The one thing I have constantly looked for is a word list that can be easily
> accessed.  Sort of a dictionary, but not necessarily the defs.   I was going
> to scan in the one book I have but that is a horrendous project.   I have
> dislexia and I need to just look up the spelling of a word.    None that I
> have found so far are what I have been looking for.
>
> Ideas?
>
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Iwould like to purchase the 5meg flash card.
Let me know!
Thanks

----------
> From: Nina H. Yuan <nhy@PANIX.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: FS: 200LX and accessories
> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 8:51 AM
>
> For sale:
>
> HP 200LX, 1 MB RAM, 2 yrs old (back when HP used tough plastic!),
>         excellent condition (I'm pretty anal about my electronic toys)
>         Asking $220
>
> IBM 5 MB flash RAM card
>         Asking $65
>
> HP 200LX to serial cable
>         Asking $15
>
> E&B leather case, padded (I can point it out on the web page...)
>         Asking $30
>
> Asking $300 + shipping for the lot.  The HP has been great; selling
> because I'm using my laptop and REX more than the HP nowadays.  Local
> to the Boston area, or shipped COD.
>
> Thanks,
> -nhy
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:22:00 -0500
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I am running Agenda on both my desktop and palmtop PC's.

Does anyone know of a way to sync the Agenda files between two PC's?

I am thinking about writing a macro, but I want to see if there isn't an easier way,
like a built-in function.

Thanks,
Michael
______________________________________________

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           11/19/97 2:19:00 PM EST
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:54 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Kevin Barnhart wrote:
>Does anyone know what Simple cards are compatible with the 200LX?

I have been using a Simple Technology 16Meg Flash card for several months=

now (Model no STI-ATAFL/16) with no problems. My only observation is that=

battery life has halved since using the card which is plugged in all the
time. Presumably all Simple Technology cards in the same range will work
OK. Take a look at the Simple Technology website www.simpletech.com for
technical specs on their cards. Got mine from Notebook Supply Warehouse. =


Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:07:09 +0200
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              Leo Theron <leot@ISDIAL.COM>
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Cathy Schlim wrote:

> I guess that sounds confusing.
>
> I would like to input degrees-minutes-seconds into the calc and
> add/subtract
> others.  Is there any way I can do that??
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Cathy

Well there is the DMS <> D.DDmm function

BUT

Try this to add Hours and minutes...

Enter hours and minutes SEPERATED by a zero, eg:

12h36 minutes...

12036

plus

10h25 minutes  ..... 10025

PLUS  (+)

If the separating zero is replaced by a 1, add 940

You have the answer!

Regards,

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              gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA
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Has anyone tried the backlighting mod on that Site in Japan?  Is it
really as hard as they say (I did my own speed upgrade and it was a snap.)
Thanks,
Jay

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Hello Listees,
        I've seen mention of it a lot on here, but browsing old messages I
don't see any reference to it now, can someone tell me where I can get
WWW LX software? Not Net Tamer, WWWLX I think it is called.

        Thanks
                Bob Aldrich

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              David Green <dgreen@WR.COM.AU>
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So I own a 200LX and a GPS11 is it a difficult or simple process to get
them linked together and scan in street maps?

Rgds,
DAvid

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:04:11 -0600
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I looked as a result of two other postings, and my LXMDRV.SYS is version
1.4
Is there any improvements made by the newer drivers?  I haven't seen any
problems with my EXP flash/modem, am I just lucky?

Another question... What is it going to take to get EXP to release a
driver for Windows 95?

Phil

>   >I am using version 1.6 of the EXP driver (LXMDRV.SYS 11 012

>I'm using version 1.9 (I guess) of the exp driver. This is the newest driver
>

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I had the same problem with Jam and the newer EXP drivers. I never got
it work, just switched to Stacker instead.

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:18:52, Bas Pruijn wrote:
I'm using version 1.9 (I guess) of the exp driver. This is the newest
driver.

I found recently (about 3 weeks ago) on the exp website. With this
driver and jam 1.25 I cannot get jam to compress my exp-flashdisk. Is there a
difference between the 2mb and the 4mb EXP? Or is it because when I
format the exp flash using lxmflash I get 1 (one) B between  all the dots? ( I
guess one bad sector?). It doesn't matter if I try jammig 100k or the
whole 2 Mb.





Regards,

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/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Subject:      Re: making EMM work...

First of all go to the c:\ Dos prompt type makeems 8 <---make this the
number of ems pages that you want. (8...25)

Copy chkdsk.exe to your c:\ and at the c:\ prompt type:
chkdsk c:\emm200.dat.

If see you "All specified files are contiguous". Emm200 is ready to run. (:-)

Add the following file to your config.sys:
device=c:\emm200.exe c:\emm200.dat
save and then reboot your 200LX.

To sure that the above info. was correct I installed emm100.exe on my
palmtop.

Note: On some of the newer 2MB & 4MB 200LX's you had to install a patch
before it would work. If thats the case with you installation. I will setup
a emm200.exe with the patch and send it to you.

BTW: I had one of those newer 200LX's at one time and to run the patch.


Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:58:03, thomas e. nemeth wrote:
Greetings to the list/fount of all knowledge!
I'm trying to install EMM200 and have read the installation instructions
but can't seem to get it to work. Here's what I'm doing (wrong):
I installed the emm.exe and makeems.exe in the c drive.
For example, if i run emm200.exe from filer, I get 2 paragraphs one
labelled device mode and the other labelled command mode and under them
is " press any key to exit from dos."
Same thing with makeems.
Can someone help this hapless lad?




Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:10:29 -0500
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pocket Liberator and Opus63 ??

The Web address is wrong! Try calling/writing them at:

Opus63 Design Lab Inc.
43-49 10th Street, 3rd FL
L.I.C., N.Y. 11101
Call: 1-718-706-6787
The Pocket Liberator-Palm Top Holster by Opus63.

Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:10:08, oudin wrote:
Hi,

when i go on the Opus63 web site, i discover it's not the web site of
the Pocket liberator's creator : it was becoming a hard rock site !
it's not a joke :-((

Does anyone know where I'd find the new site for order this useful
palmtop holster named Pocket liberator.







Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:00:57 +0800
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              Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 <kurtv@IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU>
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G'day,
        version 1.6 of the EXP driver is the one that came with the card
when I purchased it back in early '96. It has never given me any problems
so I have never bothered upgrading (are there any benefits to upgrading
to version 1.9?).

JAM worked fine with this version of the driver straight away. I am very
happy with this combination - I have never lost any data and I can't
notice any performance degradation due to JAM.

I can email version 1.6 to anyone interested in using it with JAM. I am
not sure if this version has any compatability problems with the newer
(including 8MB) EXP cards. It may be worth a try.

Cheers,
Kurt

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Bas Pruijn wrote:

> On 1997-11-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
>    >Ian,
>    >I am using version 1.6 of the EXP driver (LXMDRV.SYS 11 012
>    >bytes 12-25-95) and version 1.25 of the JAM driver (JAM.SYS 12 574
>    >3-10-95). I recall using JAM to set up two compressed drives on 4MB
>    >flash part of the EXP flash/modem. I set up one which was about 1/4
>    >of the total and the other to about 3/4 of the total 4MB. (I had a
>    >valid but obscure reason for doing this.) I could have left one of
>    >the partitions uncompressed.
> I'm using version 1.9 (I guess) of the exp driver. This is the newest driver
> I found recently (about 3 weeks ago) on the exp website. With this driver
> and jam 1.25 I cannot get jam to compress my exp-flashdisk. Is there a
> difference between the 2mb and the 4mb EXP? Or is it because when I format
> the exp flash using lxmflash I get 1 (one) B between  all the dots? ( I
> guess one bad sector?). It doesn't matter if I try jammig 100k or the whole
> 2 Mb
> greetings
>
> Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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David Green wrote:
>
> So I own a 200LX and a GPS11 is it a difficult or simple process to get
> them linked together and scan in street maps?

Is that a GPS11 or a Garmin GPSII?  Garmins, at least, interface easily.  Just
set the output of the GPS to NMEA/None 4800bd.  I use LXGPS, available on SUPER
with good results.  You can transfer maps in the same way for use on LXMAP -
which has no GPS interface - or LXGPS.  Several methods have been discussed
recently on the list.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:32:11 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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A while back somebody wrote that they had run WILLIT.EXE on the 200LX,
which is a program designed to check and see if your computer's clock
will have problems.   WILLIT reported the 200LX failing three of the
four tests.  However, DOSCHK, another such program, available at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/saphena/year2000.htm, reports
that the 200LX passes most of the tests.  The reason that it failed
WILLIT, and the reason it doesn't pass ALL the doschk tests, is because
it has no real-time clock (since it's not an AT or later.)  The DOS
clock and the BIOS clock both pass, but when the programs go to check
the real-time clock, it isn't there.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:29:24 -0800
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GENE JOHNSON wrote:
>
> My 95 lx has had low main battery warnings for a long while, even with brand
> new batteries, then the screen started to now display until I either: 1)
> massaged it with thumb & index finger back of lid; or maybe 2) things warmed
> up due to above raising the ambient temp of the screen (?).... I bought a 300
> lx as a replacement, an a/c adapter on a whim and now the screen is visible on
> boot up but I still get "low main battery" warning EVERY TIME I turn it on.
>   tried new charged NICADs, new Alkalines, no difference, even examined the
> insides (gore to the novice) with no obvious solution.... ANYBODY ELSE BEEN
> HERE?  It's now a back up on AC only since I can't trust the low bat, low back
> up bat message to be inaccurate ( lost my MAJOR phone book & scheduler more
> than once!)... HELP if possible.  I still like it better than the CE/300LX

Hmmm....  It seems like I've heard about this problem 3-4 years ago.  My memory
is hazy, but it seems that the warning was a false alarm, but very expensive to
repair.  Others may have a better recollection of the details.

I notice that you didn't mention the 100/200lx.  If you decide to replace it on
a budget, I've got an extra 100lx 2MB (just replaced it with a 200lx) that we
could talk about. :-)
--
Lewis           KC7MZ     Battle Ground, WA (near Portland, OR)
Team 200LX      NRA Life
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:43:44 -0800
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David Sargeant wrote:

> it has no real-time clock (since it's not an AT or later.)  The DOS
> clock and the BIOS clock both pass, but when the programs go to check
> the real-time clock, it isn't there.


Which, if you'll pardon me for replying to myself, brings up an
interesting point: how does the 200LX maintain the date and time when
the system is hard-reset?  Obviously the only reason it doesn't reset
the date and time (and the computer and your C: drive, for that matter)
every time you power down is that you aren't really powered down but
merely in "deep sleep" mode.  But what about CTRL-SHIFT-ON?  Does that
not disrupt the clock?  I've noticed that sometimes when I CTRL-SHIFT-ON
(maybe one in five) it resets the date and time.  Does anybody have any
specific details on why that happens?  I suppose I could look in the
developer's guide... but that's not as interesting as starting a
discussion.  :)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:55:43 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> interesting point: how does the 200LX maintain the date and time when
> the system is hard-reset?

> But what about CTRL-SHIFT-ON?  Does that
> not disrupt the clock?  I've noticed that sometimes when I CTRL-SHIFT-ON
> (maybe one in five) it resets the date and time.  Does anybody have any
> specific details on why that happens?

Someone else posted this point a while back; & I've also seen it.

But I don't have any answers: this is merely a "Me too" reply, attempting
to increase the number of participants.

:)


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bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
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-----Original Message-----
From: mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 19 November 1997 22:05
Subject: Text Files About Lotus Agenda - Follow-Up

>So far, there have been 39 requests for the 2 text files about Lotus
Agenda.
>
>I am surprised at the large interest in this software.  Maybe we should
look into other ways to support Agenda
>users, in addition to Mitchell's FAQ web page.  Any suggestions?


I would love to see a revival of Agenda's fortunes through the palmtops.  It
was and still is unique software which I still use daily on the desktop PC.
None of the Windows PIMs come close.  Like so much other good software (OS/2
springs to mind) it has failed because it was poorly marketed.
It is awfully difficult to get the hang of when you first start, and
although the download from Lotus is the best free software you will ever
receive, I don't know how new users will understand it without the guide.
Perhaps if we had enough support we could get Lotus to release the
documentation into the public domain too.

David Mather

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:24:39 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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I still need some help trying to get an EMM program for my HP 200 LX with
NSW RAM upgrade. I was told that most any will work except EMM200 because
was designed for only 2 meg units.

Any help or recommendations would be appreciated.

karl

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----- forwarded message -----
From- "Jay W. Summet" <jay@summet.com>
Date- Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:59:59 +0000
Subject- Re: Keyboard Problems

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I'm not sure if you can do a hard reset, but for what it's worth, you
CAN do a hard REBOOT (same as CTRL-ALT-DEL) by jumping to location
FFFF:0000 in memory (Bios reboot function).

To do this without pressing <CTRL-ALT-DEL> you can made a simple COM
file with the DEBUG program (included in dos) as follows:

c:\>DEBUG
- - N reboot.com
- - a 100
jmp ffff:0000
<enter a blank line (nothing) and press enter again)>
- - r cx
CX  nnnn <- Where nnnn will be replaced by some numbers...
: 256
- - w
- -q

This will create a file called reboot.com, that will reboot your
compter when ran.

How it works:
N - Sets the name of the file.
A 100 - Tells Debug to begin assembling at Hex 100 (start of COM
program)
jmp ffff:0000 - The actual command..
<blank> Gets you out of assembler mode.
r CX - Shows the value of cx
: 256 - Puts 256 into CX (the number of bytes (in hex) to write)
w - Writes 256 hex bytes to the reboot.com file...
q - quits debug..

NOTE: 256 hex bytes is way more than you need, but I don't feel like
figuring out exactly how many you actually need, and I cant
remember if it starts counting from hex 100 or hex 0...

Jay
> Date-          Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:37:37 -0600
> From-          "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
> Subject-       Keyboard Problems

> My 200LX got damp and now the CTRL, Fn and left shift keys don't work.=
  The
> ALT key does work...
> What other steps can I take - I dread taking the little jewel apart.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mike

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:53:38 -0900
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              Ken Robertson <krobertson@CUSTOMCPU.COM>
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Please stop the email digest.  The same one has been sent 30 times already.
KR

_________________________________
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Robertson, Edgren & Christensen, LLC
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:47:34 -0500
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Bob Aldrich <robert@columnist.com> wrote:

>         I've seen mention of it a lot on here, but browsing old
> messages I don't see any reference to it now, can someone tell me
> where I can get WWW LX software? Not Net Tamer, WWWLX I think it is
> called.

WWW/LX is a commercial product from D&A Software. It is distributed=
 in
the U.S. by Shier Systems & Software.  I've been using this since it
was released, and upgraded to the current version with Post/LX (the
mail & newsgroup software) when that became available.  Great product!=

It has a graphic browser with multiple fonts.  The mail program allows
sorting mail into folders, and filtering newsgroups to only download
messages of interest.

It is kinda pricey, but IMHO it is well worth it.

Check out D&A's and Shier's pages at:

        http://www.dasoft.com    and
        http://www.shier.com

PR
---------

Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:55:44 +0800
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G'day,
        for the people who have EXP flash/modem combo cards - how do you
find it effects battery life?

Cheers,
Kurt

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:49:25 +1300
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              Michelle Honey <honey@NZNET.GEN.NZ>
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At 09:00 AM 19/11/97 -0500, Michael Stocker wrote:

>If you would like a copy of these 2 files (article about Agenda and how to
install on a LX) and have not
>already requested one, e-mail me at the address below today.

Yes, please

Thanks

Craig Honey
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:34:59 -0600
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Kurt,

I have an older EXP flash/modem combo, mine is only 2400baud on the modem
side,
but I find it quite useful. I use the modem daily hitting a cc processor,
and a few times
a week to get e-mail using nettamer.  I use nettamer to dialup to a ppp
account then
telnet where I need to go. Although I use the scheduler I rarely set alarms
which keeps
battery life up in my experience.

With my typical usage (described above) I change my batteries about once
every 4-6wks.
using Duracell AAs.

By Comparison, using the same setup with a X-Jack 14.4 modem (model 1444 i
think) Im good
for about an hour of usage per set of batteries.

For me its a better trade, just to telnet at 2400 and use LYNX on the host
for the web and
pine for e-mail.

Hope this helps,


Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 <kurtv@IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: EXP flash/modem
> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 7:55 PM
>
> G'day,
>         for the people who have EXP flash/modem combo cards - how do you
> find it effects battery life?
>
> Cheers,
> Kurt
>
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At 09:54 AM 11/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
>>$100 plus shipping
>
>Please, DO put your feet on the ground.
>

New Zoom Pocket modems were still avilable 6 mos ago
from ISN at >$100 ... he may not get $100, but it isn't all
that unreasonable...

John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
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Michael R. Melancon wrote:
>
> My 200LX got damp and now the CTRL, Fn and left shift keys don't work.
<snip>
>

Hi Mike
Was it clean water or something else like coffee?

The key surround (the plastic sheet with zoom, date, time etc
written on it) is contact glued in and can be lifted out relatively
easily. Just prize up one edge near a corner with a knife being
careful not to cut or kink the plastic. Lift it off and place in a
clean area to keep dust off the glue.

After the complete backup you could remove all batteries and try
washing the offending keys in clean/pure water and re-drying.

Good luck
John

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:29:01 -0600
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At 08:00 AM 11/20/97 +0800, you wrote:
>G'day,
>        version 1.6 of the EXP driver is the one that came with the card
>when I purchased it back in early '96. It has never given me any problems
>so I have never bothered upgrading (are there any benefits to upgrading
>to version 1.9?).
>
>JAM worked fine with this version of the driver straight away. I am very
>happy with this combination - I have never lost any data and I can't
>notice any performance degradation due to JAM.
>
>I can email version 1.6 to anyone interested in using it with JAM. I am
>not sure if this version has any compatability problems with the newer
>(including 8MB) EXP cards. It may be worth a try.
>
>Cheers,
>Kurt

Where is JAM available??

Thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:27:46 -0600
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At 06:10 PM 11/19/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I had the same problem with Jam and the newer EXP drivers. I never got
>it work, just switched to Stacker instead.

Stupid question, but I'm still a new.  Where can one find/buy stacker for
the 200lx?

Thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:55:03 -0700
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     Hi!
     But I got mine about six months ago through some mail order house for
     $35.99.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-johnws (johnws@IX.NETCOM.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/19/97 8:57 PM


At 09:54 AM 11/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
>>$100 plus shipping
>
>Please, DO put your feet on the ground.
>

New Zoom Pocket modems were still avilable 6 mos ago
from ISN at >$100 ... he may not get $100, but it isn't all
that unreasonable...

John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
johnws@ix.netcom.com
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Please send me the text files too.

Best regards,
Gert Thomasen
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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:11:52 -0800
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I believe the 'Project Gutenberg' site has a large ASCII (plain vanilla)
word list. If you don't find it I can check my 'Proj. Gutenberg' CD.
let me know if you don't find it.

        Richard

> At 06:56 PM 11/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >The one thing I have constantly looked for is a word list that can be easily
> >accessed.  Sort of a dictionary, but not necessarily the defs.   I was going
> >to scan in the one book I have but that is a horrendous project.   I have
> >dislexia and I need to just look up the spelling of a word.    None that I
> >have found so far are what I have been looking for.
> >
> >Ideas?
> >
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> Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
> Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
> SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
> MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
> Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333
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Date:         Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:20:55 +0100
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> >InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
> >$100 plus shipping
>
> Please, DO put your feet on the ground.

I think this price is fully justifyable.
More and more mobile users, less and less
pocket modems... price goes up.

With pocket modem you can stay on line for
hours and yet have a big ATA in the PC-CARD slot.

JS

BTW: Pocket modem 14.4 for Psion is sold for some 300 USD.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:39:18 -0500
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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM> wrote:

ro> I've seen mention of it a lot on here, but browsing old messages I
ro> don't see any reference to it now, can someone tell me where I can =
get
ro> WWW LX software? Not Net Tamer, WWWLX I think it is called.

Bob, point your browser at http://www.dasoft.com

That should do the trick! <g>

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:21:51 -0500
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The subject Lotus Text files have been sent out to all of those that requested them.

With over 50 requests, I am bound to have missed one or two.

If you requested copies and did not receive them, just let me know at the address below and I'll send them to
you.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/20/97 8:18:32 AM EST
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:26:01 -0500
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Subject:      JAM location
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              "Jeffrey N. MacDowell" at Nov 19, 97 10:27:46 pm
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I think it's on several of the large shareware sites such as filemine.com
and shareware.com.  Search for "jam" or "jam125sw"

I just made my first JAM disk last night, worked like a charm.  Better
than the first experience with Stacker, I can tell you.  I used it on all
avail space on a newly formatted 12 meg ATA flash card.  Afterwards, the
estimated capacity was 29 meg!!   ESTIMATE being the key word here.

Haven't decided whether to make a c: JAM volume yet, I probably won't for
speed reasons.

> Stupid question, but I'm still a new.  Where can one find/buy stacker for
> the 200lx?

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:17:25 -0500
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Did my offer to Mr. Perez broadcast to the whole list?

Uhm... my apologies. I thought I took the "list" off the to: line and
that I had sent it only to him.

-joe



Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:

> >InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:19:39 -0500
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Request!

(I feel like a little bird squeeking "feed me! feed me!")

thanks,
-joe

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:38:18 -0500
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For that matter, I bought a Megahertz PCMCIA 14.4 fax/modem card used for $35.  Also
available new from Thaddeus for $70.

--- On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:55:03 -0700  Helmut Grossinger
<HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM> wrote:

>     Hi!
>     But I got mine about six months ago through some mail order house for
>     $35.99.
>
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
>Subject: Re: FS: 14.4k Pocket Modem
>Author:  Non-HP-johnws (johnws@IX.NETCOM.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
>Date:    11/19/97 8:57 PM
>
>
>At 09:54 AM 11/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>>InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
>>>$100 plus shipping
>>
>>Please, DO put your feet on the ground.
>>
>
>New Zoom Pocket modems were still avilable 6 mos ago
>from ISN at >$100 ... he may not get $100, but it isn't all
>that unreasonable...
>
>John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
>johnws@ix.netcom.com

>
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:43:46 -0500
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At 07:57 PM 11/19/97 -0800, you wrote:
>At 09:54 AM 11/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>>InfoTel Pocket 14.4k FAX/Modem
>>>$100 plus shipping
>>
>>Please, DO put your feet on the ground.
>>
>
>New Zoom Pocket modems were still avilable 6 mos ago
>from ISN at >$100 ... he may not get $100, but it isn't all
>that unreasonable...

And it does come with an already modified HP serial cable - $30 worth

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:18:41 -0800
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Okay, I modified my 200LX so that it now has a jack for headphones,
using parts you can buy at Radio Shack for under $10.  I'll post a page
up to my web site describing it, with pictures.

I had to remove some little plastic walls  to get the jack to fit in
there, but I don't think it affected the palmtop's structural
integrity.  The jack is located just to the left of the PCMCIA slot.

It's not a regular size 1/8" jack, it's a 3/32", so you have to get an
adapter for regular headphones/speaker/etc.  Also there are a couple of
small problems: it probably needs a resistor soldered in, because
without it, the sound from the headphones can be heard miles away.
(Well, almost.  :)  Ideal would be potentiometer, but there's not really
room.
Another problem is that, if you get it too close to the PCMCIA slot, you
could make it difficult to get your cards in.

Anyway, as I said, I'll post some info to my site later on.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:09:40 -0600
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Helmut-

What mail order house?? Great price!  I'd like to have a backup to PCMCIA
card at that price.  In addition, what kind did you purchase?

Thanks for your reply

Jeff in Dallas
SMU Mustangs vs. TCU Hornfrogs tonight, 7pm CST on ESPN -- Go Ponies!!

At 09:55 PM 11/19/97 -0700, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     But I got mine about six months ago through some mail order house for
>     $35.99.
>
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:42:37 -0800
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This is being forwarded without comment.  It was posted in the
comp.sys.handhelds newsgroup.

Dear Palmtop users,

We are looking to hear from palmtop, PDA and WIndows CE users about what
would make an ideal palmtop computer. This information will be used to
help establish design perameters for the "ideal" palmtop, and if we can
generate enough demand for such a system, the financing and facilities
for this project are available to the point where it could be produced
and in the market by Q3 1998!

For years, the HP200LX has been the standard, but it is slow, has no
backlit screen, and is quickly losing compatibility with mainstream
computing. The Palm Pilot has a wide following, but in itself has many
limitations, as do most of the Windows CE machines which do not come
close to living up to the pre-release hype.

So we put it to you, what makes a good palmtop?  What would be the IDEAL
palmtop computer?  Would it support DOS, Windows 95, Unix?  All three?
What about Windows CE?

What would the keyboard be like? What about the screen? Does it need a
hard drive? How much memory and what type of processor? How about it's
minimum or maximum size, shape and weight?

What about price?  At what point does a palmtop computer become too
expensive? Is there a performance/price factor involved or is it simply
a matter of dollars per unit?  What accessories would be required and
what would be reasonable price for these accessories?

Battery life is important as well. Would you trade battery life for a
high performance system like the Toshiba Libretto (which gets about 45
minutes per battery charge) or would a good palmtop need long battery
life like the HP200LX (3-4 weeks) over fast performance?

What ports and features would need to be built into the palmtop versus
perhaps adding on via a docking station?  What about built in software?
In addition to email, is Internet web browsing important? Given that any
modems, modem software, or intensive graphics drains batteries faster
than a Ferrari drinks gas, how important is this? At what modem speed
would you need to be connected?

Give it some thought. Talk about it on your newsgroups, but if you
really want your opinion to mean something, be sure to send your
comments to me via email so we can incorporate your ideas into planning
for a real product.

Thank you for your time and your input.

mark@taf.net

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:47:06 +0100
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David Sargeant wrote:

> ...
> (Well, almost.  :)  Ideal would be potentiometer, but there's not really
> room.
> Another problem is that, if you get it too close to the PCMCIA slot, you
> could make it difficult to get your cards in.

You may fix the potentiometer between the hp and the headphones. I mean
on the
cord. I've this solution at home for my PC but the headphone is too big
to be
handeld with the palmtop.

regards

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:07:20 -0800
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Mike, I'm going out of my wits end on Agenda. I have a Pentium, Win 95, 16MB
memory. I've also tried it out on another Pentium in the office. I've tried to
run the INSTALL.EXE program several ways, from explorer, from the Start -> Run
(I get an different error A:\INSTALL.EXE is not a valid Win32 application),
I've tried restart the computer with the MS-DOS PROMPT and I've even booted up
to get a DOS prompt bypassing Windows altogether and I still get "Program too
big to fit in memory" error. The one thing I don't have is an EMS driver for
my DOS session in Win95.


===
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx




---mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for using NetForward!
> http://www.netforward.com
> v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
>
> I was assuming that you where running Win95 on Pentium PC.
>
> If not, I can't help you.
>
> I am running straight Win95 on a desktop Pentium.  I installed Agrenda using
ÝStart¨ ->
> ÝRun¨, not from DOS.
>
> --- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:43:57 -0800 (PST)  David Hart
<hartd@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Let me examine the process. I tried to run install.exe but I'm not allowed to
> >run it from explorer or run because it assumes all install.exe programs are
32
> >bit install programs. So I bring up a DOS prompt and it gives me a program
too
> >big to fit error when I try to run install.exe. The one thing I can say is
> >that I do not have an EMS driver program for Windows 95. Are you running an
> >EMS driver program?
> >
> >
> >
> >===
> >Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
> >Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
> >"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> >Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for using NetForward!
> >> http://www.netforward.com
> >> v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
> >>
> >> I'm running Agenda 2.0, as downloaded from the Lotus ftp site, in Win95.
> >>
> >> I just ran the normal Agenda install program from Win95 and everything
> >worked fine.
> >>
> >> After installation, I opened Agenda's file folder, right clicked
AGENDA.EXE,
> >and selected Create Shortcut.
> >> This created Lotus Agenda.PIF, which I dragged out to my desktop.
> >>
> >> Double clicking the Lotus Agenda icon on my desktop starts Agenda in full
> >screen mode.
> >>
> >> NOTE: When installing anything in Win95, it is always a good idea to close
> >any open applications.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:21:34 -0800  David Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Has anybody been able to install Agenda onto a Win95 computer? I'm
trying to
> >> >follow those directions that mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM gave and I never can
get
> >> >the install program to run. It keeps saying "Program too big to fit in
> >memory"
> >> >error.
> >> >
> >> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________
> >>
> >>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
> >>            11/18/97 6:14:21 PM EST
> >> ______________________________________________
> >>
> >
> >__________________________________________________________________
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> ______________________________________________
>
>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>            11/18/97 7:46:34 PM EST
> ______________________________________________
>

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Comments: To: gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA
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I am interested in doing my own speed upgrade also. Could you tell me how
you did yours? What type and frequency of crystal? What drivers did you
use? Any ill side effects?
Thanks

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> From: Jay Gates <gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Illuminations
> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 4:32 PM
>
> Has anyone tried the backlighting mod on that Site in Japan?  Is it
> really as hard as they say (I did my own speed upgrade and it was a
snap.)
> Thanks,
> Jay
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:45:18 -0800
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Dave,

This might be off the wall, but it is possible that you might have had an
error creep in when downloading Agenda from the Lotus FTP site.  You might
want to try another download and then try installing that version.

I have installed Agenda on a Win95 machine and a WinNT without any
difficulty.  Indeed, the Win95 laptop (Pentium 90) which I use to backup my
Palmtop flashcard runs Agenda at a speed that brings tears of envy to my
eyes.  However, I still prefer the instant on/off of my 200LX - and the
200LX goes everywhere and gives me instant access to my Agenda files.  Life
is full of compromise!!






David Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM> on 11/20/97 09:07:20 AM
Please respond to hartd@poboxes.com
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cc:
Subject:        Re: Installing Agenda

Mike, I'm going out of my wits end on Agenda. I have a Pentium, Win 95,
16MB
memory. I've also tried it out on another Pentium in the office. I've tried
to
run the INSTALL.EXE program several ways, from explorer, from the Start ->
Run
(I get an different error A:\INSTALL.EXE is not a valid Win32 application),
I've tried restart the computer with the MS-DOS PROMPT and I've even booted
up
to get a DOS prompt bypassing Windows altogether and I still get "Program
too
big to fit in memory" error. The one thing I don't have is an EMS driver
for
my DOS session in Win95.


===
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx




---mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for using NetForward!
> http://www.netforward.com
> v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
>
> I was assuming that you where running Win95 on Pentium PC.
>
> If not, I can't help you.
>
> I am running straight Win95 on a desktop Pentium.  I installed Agrenda
using
ÝStart¨ ->
> ÝRun¨, not from DOS.
>
> --- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:43:57 -0800 (PST)  David Hart
<hartd@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Let me examine the process. I tried to run install.exe but I'm not
allowed to
> >run it from explorer or run because it assumes all install.exe programs
are
32
> >bit install programs. So I bring up a DOS prompt and it gives me a
program
too
> >big to fit error when I try to run install.exe. The one thing I can say
is
> >that I do not have an EMS driver program for Windows 95. Are you running
an
> >EMS driver program?
> >
> >
> >
> >===
> >Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
> >Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
> >"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> >Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for using NetForward!
> >> http://www.netforward.com
> >> v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
> >>
> >> I'm running Agenda 2.0, as downloaded from the Lotus ftp site, in
Win95.
> >>
> >> I just ran the normal Agenda install program from Win95 and everything
> >worked fine.
> >>
> >> After installation, I opened Agenda's file folder, right clicked
AGENDA.EXE,
> >and selected Create Shortcut.
> >> This created Lotus Agenda.PIF, which I dragged out to my desktop.
> >>
> >> Double clicking the Lotus Agenda icon on my desktop starts Agenda in
full
> >screen mode.
> >>
> >> NOTE: When installing anything in Win95, it is always a good idea to
close
> >any open applications.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:21:34 -0800  David Hart
<hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Has anybody been able to install Agenda onto a Win95 computer? I'm
trying to
> >> >follow those directions that mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM gave and I never
can
get
> >> >the install program to run. It keeps saying "Program too big to fit
in
> >memory"
> >> >error.
> >> >
> >> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________
> >>
> >>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
> >>            11/18/97 6:14:21 PM EST
> >> ______________________________________________
> >>
> >
> >__________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:53:03 -0500
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Agenda is a very complex program to get a true handle on w/o a manual.

To follow-up on Ron Rivers' previous post, I have found that the following manuals are still in print:

The Lotus Guide to Agenda,  Robert & Lauren Faust,  Addison-Wesley  $19.95
  NOTE: This is a Lotus certified manual written by the owners of Eye-On Associates,
        who built a consulting business around Agenda.  Fairly well written.

Working with Agenda,  John Ottensman & Jan Neuenschwander,  TAB Books  $24.95
  NOTE: Never read this, but did order a copy.


______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/20/97 12:42:54 PM EST
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:47:40 -0300
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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Problem with the modem

Hi all !!


I've an EXP 8MB pcmcia card, last week i don't know how, the AT settings
of the card just gone !!

Now, when i'm trying to access my BBS, or any IPS, it dials ok, then i
can hear the modem negotiating, but that's all !!, all i can hear is
noise !!

The Minifax software is working ok, so i think it's not a hardware
problem.
I can send faxes ok.


According to the manual i've put : AT&F &C1 &D2, in the "INIT STRING",
but nothing !!
I'm working with "TELEMATE"


The AT comands are working ok:

at
OK
ats=5
OK
atm1l1
OK

But nothing happens when trying to access my bbs !! :(


Thanks for any help


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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:13:22 -0600
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I use the Application Manager in the "list" mode most of the time.  I
would like to see what database or phone list is "pending" or will open
when I re-start an application.  Is it possible for someone blessed with
the skills and patience, to write a small program, perhaps a TSR that
will change the Comments field of the Database and (or) Phone
application entry to show which file will open when these applications
are started?

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:50:32 -0500
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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:

ku> G'day,
ku>         for the people who have EXP flash/modem combo cards - how do =
you
ku> find it effects battery life?

I have also used an Ace df+ card as well as a Smart Memorymodem before
switching to the EXP. In my opinion the df+ barely degrades battery
life (only about 5%) the smart about 15% and the EXP about 30%.
Sprinkle in a 2x crystal and some compression software and you're down
to 50% especially if you switch your machine on/off hundreds of times
a day as I do. <g>

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:27:24 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: External speaker for 200LX

> David Sargeant wrote:
>
> > ...
> > (Well, almost.  :)  Ideal would be potentiometer, but there's not really
> > room.
> > Another problem is that, if you get it too close to the PCMCIA slot, you
> > could make it difficult to get your cards in.
>
> You may fix the potentiometer between the hp and the headphones. I mean
> on the
> cord. I've this solution at home for my PC but the headphone is too big
> to be
> handeld with the palmtop.
>
> regards
>

Doesn't Radio Shack sell an inline volume control for headphones? I know
they sell a small headphone set that includes a volume control. Either
setup should solve the volume problem.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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> Can anyone tell me where I can obtain Magnify software.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raymond

Sure! It is now produced by D&A Software Inc. It is available
from our dealers. Try Shier info@shier.com in the USA or
Rundel Datentechnik in Europe (100023.2477@compuserve.com). If
you cannot find it there, let me know.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:52:18 -0800
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Danny,

> Magnify! is a good product and was picked up by Shier when Ace went =
out
> of business.  It magnifies a small window which you can move around. =
 I
> like it and use it.  I also use the built-in zoom function.  They =
are
> complementary.  I don't use DISPCTL.

Actually, it is a D&A Software product. Shier and other
dealers sell licenses for it.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:52:38 -0800
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Hi Ken,

> ---<snip>---
> >Can anyone tell me where I can obtain Magnify software.
> Raymond
> ---<snip>---
>
> Yes, Shier Software sells it for about $19.00. I ordered it two weeks =
ago but haven't received it yet so can't tell you how it works.
> www.shier.com
> By the way, I am sill curious about how to use the dspctl.com file =
in D:\BIN directory. Someone surely knows how.
>
> Ken Moore

Yes, Magnify is now produced by D&A Software, Inc. and
licenses are sold through dealers, Shier among them.

Long time no hear from you, Ken!

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:52:28 -0800
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Hi:

> ACE made a program called Magnify, an exm which worked well on an =
100lx and
> 200lx for viewing magnified shots of sysman (built-in) apps.  It =
works best
> when the database apps (phone and dbase,etc) are in list mode, rather =
than
> in datacard mode.

Magnify is ALIVE and WELL! It is now produced by D&A Software
Inc. It is sold through our dealers or directly.

The version we license is slightly improved, and it is now
version 1.50.

Magnify has nothing to do anymore with ACE as ACE has closed
their doors.

Best Regards,

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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> I am also interested to know if there is someplace to find daylight
> savings info.

Ok:

Europe did change its rules for changing over to winter time,
in order to align with the British. For 96 and 97 we will
change over only in the last weekend of October.

To fix European daylight savings: Use D:\_sys\timezone.dat and
edit:

 European
 3:25-31 6 1:00
 10:25-31 6 0:00   <--- new
 Northern
 4:1-7    6 1:00
 10:25-31 6 0:00
 Southern
 3:1-7    6 0:00
 10:25-31 6 1:00

Take out the first space of each line!

copy to C:\100\C\_DAT\TIMEZONE.DAT

Portguese cities adjustment in Worldtime: they decided this
year to align (again) with the English hour. Open the
Worldtime App, and for all the Portugese towns change the
'Time Offset From' 'Hours' from '1:00' to '0:00'. I have Faro,
Funchal, Lisbon, Oporto and Vila do Porto. Vila do Porto must
be set to '-1:00'. (May already be so in the file).

  (: Avi M. :) ÝD&A¨

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Bob:

<<  can someone tell me where I can get WWW LX software? >>

Gladly. It is produced by D&A Software, Inc. and I am a
principal in the company, and benefit from any sale it makes,
so you know what my bias is :-) ...

WWW/LX: This is the announcement I posted a long time ago,
circa October 1996 (!)

Post/LX: This is the additional client to do email and
newsgroups. Came out June 1997.

The entire package is now sold as one item, not in parts,
under the name "WWW/LX Plus". It lists for US$ 119.00 plus
shipping from D&A Software, and it is also available from our
dealers. (Shier is the main dealer in US and Rundel
Datentechnik is main dealer in Europe. I do not know their
prices, but I believe they are lower, worth checking <G>...)

Sorry about the length of the post. I will not repeat this
regularly, not to worry! <G>...

Best regards,

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

---------- WWW/LX Announcement ----------

D&A Software Inc. is pleased to announce that WWW/LX is now
available.

WWW/LX is a World Wide Web browser. It consists of the browser
program, a communications program, and a setup program.

The browser program is HV version 2.0. HV stands for HTML
Viewer. This program displays HTML documents and images
inline.

The program supports HTTP access, Hotlist, and Find, among
many of its features. It will display pages found on the
Palmtop, or request (from WWW.EXE) to obtain the document from
a remote site. Help is available on-line by using the F1 key.
The display of GIFs may be toggled. The program utilizes a
cache to retain images and documents and save download time.

WWW.EXE is the communication program providing the
functionality of a TCP/IP stack and other tasks such as
managing the serial port, the scripts etc.. This program
supports SLIP and PPP protocols. It uses a script to dial and
establish a connection to your Internet Service Provider
(ISP). The configuration file for the WWW.EXE program is
managed by WWWSETUP which is an easy to use configuration
program.

Each ISP has a setup describing specific information about it,
and a script which manages the interaction between the Palmtop
and the ISP. The configuration file contains several examples
of working setups and scripts for many popular ISPs. Also some
generic setups and scripts are included.

WWW.EXE and HV constitute a powerful, compact Web browser. It
works with about 200K on disk, and can run inside the System
Manager. (Additional space is required for downloaded
documents, images and indexes.)

The architecture of the product is modular, i.e. HV and
WWW.EXE communicate via an application program interface
(API). Other applications that provide Internet services may
use this interface as well. Examples: E-mail application and
Newsgroups retrieval. D&A Software will provide these
applications in short order. This architecture allows the
Palmtop to manage a connection to the Internet in a lean and
efficient manner.

Availability Date:  October 6, 1996

We would like to acknowledge the hard work and enthusiasm of
the Beta Test Team, the best there is! HP and it employees
have provided valuable support and guidance during the
development and we are thankful to them. Last, but not least,
the PAL Group which has developed PAL (Palmtop Application
Library) contributed much to making WWW/LX "look and feel"
like the System Manager application of the HP Palmtop.

---------- Post/LX Announcement ----------

----------  Post/LX Announcement ----------

D&A Software, Inc. is proud to announce that Post/LX is now
ready. Post/LX is the E-Mail and Newsgroups component which
works with the communication engine from WWW/LX.

Post/LX will be available only as part of the repackaged (and
improved) WWW/LX, starting the first week of June 1997.

Post/LX adds the long-awaited E-Mail and Newsgroups component
to the suite of client programs now available for WWW/LX.

Some of the features of Post/LX include:

- Post/LX is made of three main components: Reader, which
manages messages and lets you read and reply off-line, POST,
which performs the sending and retrieval of E-Mail messages,
and NEWS, which performs the sending and retrieval of
newsgroups articles. Post/LX is a DOS application, and can
run inside Systems Manager as well as outside System
Manager.

- A GUI interface that uses the PAL emulation of the HP System
Manager "look and feel", is used in READER. The ability to
work on E-Mail off-line, saves you connect charges, and gives
you mobility and flexibility.

- Folders to help you organize your messages and increase your
productivity. Filters may be applied to E-Mail messages, to
redirect them to appropriate folders.

- Filters applied to newsgroups article can block unwanted
articles from ever reaching your Palmtop.

- Multiple E-Mail addresses may be checked to download E-Mail
in one session. Similarly, multiple Newsgroups may be
"visited" and scanned for new articles. You select the best
connection, and Post/LX will retrieve your E-Mail from
several mailboxes in one online "mail run".

- E-Mail may be sent to Distribution Lists (mailing lists), by
using a simple list that is easy to manage. You may have as
many lists as you wish.

- E-Mail has integrated MIME encoding and decoding so you can
send and receive binary files transparently to/from Internet
correspondents.

- Particular attention was paid to the platform and its
limitations, so downloading volumes from newsgroups can be
strictly controlled by applying several criteria, such as
filtering, maximum lines, maximum size, only the last few
messages posted, scanning headers only to select articles to
download, and so on.

There are other auxiliary programs in the package to manage files, =
setup and so
on.

Our gratitude goes to two other groups who were part of this
effort, and contributed in a very decisive way:

- The Beta Testers who were completely unyielding and insisted
on the best quality, the best features, the most flexibility.
The product demonstrates their spirit and excellence in
abundance.

- The PAL group, headed by Gilles Kohl, which created a
library of functionality emulating the graphical user
interface (GUI), familiar to you from the HP System Manager.
Without their contribution, this product would not be
possible.

Thank you.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

 28 May 1997

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:11:14 -0800
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For a look and more specifications.
Visit: http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/hp600lx/c_pspec/c_pspec.html



                Memory
                                  16 MB RAM, user upgradable
                                  10 MB ROM, user upgradable, Fast Page
                                Mode
                Color Display
                                  640 x 240 pixel LCD
                                  256 Colors
                                  Backlit
                                  Auto Dimming Touch Screen
                                  Pen and Touch Interface
                CPU
                                High Performance 32 bit RISC CPU Running
                                at 75 MHz
                Size
                                7.8 x 4.1 x 1.4 in (19.8 x 10.4 x 3.6 cm)
                Weight
                                586g (20.6oz) with batteries
                Operating
                System
                                Microsoft Windows CE 2.0 O/S with Color
                                Support

                Power
                                  Lithium-ion rechargeable battery pack
                                  One 3V CR2032 coin-cell backup battery
                                  AC Adapter HP F1241A for power and
                                battery recharge
                Input / Output
                                  Built-in Serial Interface for connection to
                                RS-232 device
                                  Built-in Infrared Port (IrDA standard,
                                115-Kb/s)
                                  PC Card Type II Plug-in Card Slot (for
                                adding memory or I/O cards)
                                  CompactFlash Card Slot
                                  Audio Speaker

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:23:06 -0500
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Yeah, you could just use headphones or a speaker with a built-in volume
control.  In fact, that's what I'm doing: using a headset with a built
in volume control/power switch.  But ideally, it should be in the
palmtop itself.

I had meant to bring the modified palmtop with me and take some
pictures for the web site, but unfortunately I seem to have left it=
 at
home.  So it will be later this evening (Pacific US time) before I can
get anything on the web site.

As for the filter shown in the diagram from the PTP: you only need that
if you're doing a lot of work with LXMIDI.  Otherwise, you can just
forget about it.

BTW: the tip of my 30 watt soldering iron was almost perfect for
melting the hole in the side of the 200LX.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:23:07 -0500
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If the parts are available and the right size, the backlight
modification (using EL panels) shouldn't be too difficult.  The
trouble is: The reason you can see your palmtop's screen is that there
is a reflective white sticker stuck to the back of the screen.  Light
bounces off this.  It will not go through it very well at all, from
front or back.  If you install an EL panel, it goes behind it, and you
can't see the light it gives off because the sticker is in the way.=

Removing the sticker (no easy task; it's on there good and tight)
reveals the EL panel, but then you can only see the display when the
panel is on.  The best way would be to replace the reflective sticker
with a transreflective sticker that reflects incident light but
transmits light from behind.  Unfortunately I don't know if these are
even available, much less where to get one.
Plus the EL panel requires an external battery pack, uses lots of
power, wears out after a few thousand hours of use...
There are other, more elegent solutions being worked on, but don't hold
your breath...

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Anybody looking for a mouse for the palmtop?  The Cirque Easy Cat
touchpad is an inexpensive and small pointing device that you can use
with the 200LX.  It sells for under $30 and has some neat features,
not to mention its size.  I think with a little effort it could be
modified with a direct 200LX cable and to clip onto the side or front
of the palmtop... allowing you to, for example, make drawings in
Autosketch...

Just throwing out some ideas.  I'll be posting some more reviews up=
 to
my site soon.

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Doesn't Radio Shack sell an inline volume control for headphones? I know
> they sell a small headphone set that includes a volume control. Either
> setup should solve the volume problem.
They do, and I have 3 pair.  They're the Pro 25's.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:52:44 -0800
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Anybody who went to look at the specs on the 620LX: did you SEE how long
it can record audio?  "Up to an hour for each 1MB space."  Incredible!
I assume this must be at 2-bit 1Hz recording.  (It doesn't mention that
when you try to play it back it just comes back as a series of beeps and
whistles.  :)

Anyway, if the XT CE emulator at http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk comes
out and performs as expected... we're going to have some serious
competition for "best handheld."  At least we know we'll still have
superior battery life... :)

--
Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:21:14 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 620LX

> Anybody who went to look at the specs on the 620LX: did you SEE how long
> it can record audio?  "Up to an hour for each 1MB space."  Incredible!
> I assume this must be at 2-bit 1Hz recording.  (It doesn't mention that
> when you try to play it back it just comes back as a series of beeps and
> whistles.  :)
>

Actually it probably uses some sort of compression. My Velo1 can a little
over 1K per minute of recording time and for voice recording it is
perfectly understandable. This isn't music quality recording but generally
better than most of the voice memo machines on the market today. Plus with
additional software my Velo1 can be trained to understand voice commands, I
was actually amazed at how accurite it was.

For all you anti-windowsce people, I do own and use an HP200LX but was
pleasantly suprised at the capabilities of the Velo1. Also, I am about as
vocal an anti-windows person as you will even find but I have to admit
windows CE isn't half bad. Had it connected to my Worldnet account in 2
minutes flat and I can conrtol my desktop from anywhere with PC AnywhereCE.

Now before the flame throwers come out we return you to your regularly
scheduled program already in progress...

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:22:23 PST
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From:         Greg Renda <greg@POPEYE.NCD.COM>
Subject:      LXGPS 1.2 - a freeware GPS application for the HP 100/200LX
              palmtop now available

LXGPS interfaces your HP 100/200LX palmtop to a GPS receiver that
communicates using the standard NMEA 0183 protocol over a serial line.

LXGPS has the following features:

    - moving map display using user supplied maps in PCX format.
    - navigation to user defined waypoints including graphical
      bearing indicator, distance to waypoint and estimated time enroute.
    - satellite tracking and signal strength display.
    - route trace, logging and playback.
    - setting of palmtop time from GPS time.

LXGPS may be downloaded from http://www.jps.net/renda/greg/.

-Greg

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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:41:22 +1100
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Martin,

I have used an EXP 4meg modem mem card for a long time now, my first modem
displayed this ill effect at one time. Problem was, it would not log on to
compuserve using Accis, but when I took it out toi EXP in New York, the
tech guy there managed to intermittantly log on to "Phones" (compuserve)
using the built in data comm.

Even so EXP replaced it FOC they have a lifetime warranty. Call them they
were most helpful.

DAvid Green

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> From: Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Problem with the modem
> Date: Friday, 21 November 1997 4:47
>
> Hi all !!
>
>
> I've an EXP 8MB pcmcia card, last week i don't know how, the AT settings
> of the card just gone !!
>
> Now, when i'm trying to access my BBS, or any IPS, it dials ok, then i
> can hear the modem negotiating, but that's all !!, all i can hear is
> noise !!
>
> The Minifax software is working ok, so i think it's not a hardware
> problem.
> I can send faxes ok.
>
>
> According to the manual i've put : AT&F &C1 &D2, in the "INIT STRING",
> but nothing !!
> I'm working with "TELEMATE"
>
>
> The AT comands are working ok:
>
> at
> OK
> ats=5
> OK
> atm1l1
> OK
>
> But nothing happens when trying to access my bbs !! :(
>
>
> Thanks for any help
>
>
> martin
> marseb@giga.com.ar
>
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:46:41 -0700
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I don't think they use THAT low a sample rate.  What they probably use is a
silence-elimination and data compression algorithm.  There are some just for
audio data compression that produce amazingly compact files.

-----Original Message-----
From:   David Sargeant ÝSMTP:davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM¨
Sent:   Thursday, November 20, 1997 3:53 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: 620LX

Anybody who went to look at the specs on the 620LX: did you SEE how long
it can record audio?  "Up to an hour for each 1MB space."  Incredible!
I assume this must be at 2-bit 1Hz recording.  (It doesn't mention that
when you try to play it back it just comes back as a series of beeps and
whistles.  :)

Anyway, if the XT CE emulator at http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk comes
out and performs as expected... we're going to have some serious
competition for "best handheld."  At least we know we'll still have
superior battery life... :)

--
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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:00:10 -0500, Michael Stocker wrote:

>If you would like a copy of these 2 files (article about Agenda and how =
to install on a LX) and have not
>already requested one, e-mail me at the address below today.

Why not send them to Mitch for inclusion on the SUPER site? Then
anyone can grab them as required.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:50:27 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 620LX
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     Hi!
     No flame thrower. But my pet pee with WinCE is that it does not know
     how to handle the flash cards. Until there is a resolve of storage of
     data base files on the flash cards WinCE is junk. Just MHO.

     Helmut in Colorado

     I used to own a HP 320LX.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
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Author:  Non-HP-TCBORDP (TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us) at HP-ColSprings,shargw1
Date:    11/20/97 4:21 PM


> Anybody who went to look at the specs on the 620LX: did you SEE how long
> it can record audio?  "Up to an hour for each 1MB space."  Incredible!
> I assume this must be at 2-bit 1Hz recording.  (It doesn't mention that
> when you try to play it back it just comes back as a series of beeps and
> whistles.  :)
>

Actually it probably uses some sort of compression. My Velo1 can a little
over 1K per minute of recording time and for voice recording it is
perfectly understandable. This isn't music quality recording but generally
better than most of the voice memo machines on the market today. Plus with
additional software my Velo1 can be trained to understand voice commands, I
was actually amazed at how accurite it was.

For all you anti-windowsce people, I do own and use an HP200LX but was
pleasantly suprised at the capabilities of the Velo1. Also, I am about as
vocal an anti-windows person as you will even find but I have to admit
windows CE isn't half bad. Had it connected to my Worldnet account in 2
minutes flat and I can conrtol my desktop from anywhere with PC AnywhereCE.

Now before the flame throwers come out we return you to your regularly
scheduled program already in progress...

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:    11/20/97 2:52 PM


> I am also interested to know if there is someplace to find daylight
> savings info.

Ok:

Europe did change its rules for changing over to winter time,
in order to align with the British. For 96 and 97 we will
change over only in the last weekend of October.

  Hi!

   When is Europe ever going to standardize any thing? I was born and
raised in Europe but have been in the USA for over 40 years. It just
amazes me every time they try to do something some says "Not Me" and they
have to start all over again. What a mess. MHO.

Helmut in Colorado

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:42:37 -0800, you forwarded:

Ýsnip about palmtops¨

>Thank you for your time and your input.
>
>mark@taf.net

I thought I'd check if this guy has a web site - he does, and it's an
adult sex site!!! I got out quick.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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<title>WinCex</title>  :-0

> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:42:37 -0800, you forwarded:
> I thought I'd check if this guy has a web site - he does, and it's
> an adult sex site!!! I got out quick.
---
Finger btw@vnet.net for my PGP key
           Alba gu brath!

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I was wondering if anyone can tell me if an EXP 2400/9600 Fax Card modem
will work in an 95LX. It's the the type with the Thin Fax software
built into the ROM on the card. The modem model is the Basic LX. If
anyone could let me know whether or not the modem will work I would
greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@(nospam)scott.net
Remove (nospam) to email me!
Finger me for my pager number!

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:41:44 +1100
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Subject:      Re: HP 620LX
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19971120141114.00ab5850@earthlink.net> from "Quinton
              Jones JR" at Nov 20, 97 02:11:14 pm
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What can I say? It's not a joke!

> Visit: http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/hp600lx/c_pspec/c_pspec.html
It's heavy: 586g
It's fast: 32 bit RISC CPU Running at 75 MHz
It's colour: 256 ("vibrant?")
It's got sound: mic & speaker
It's got a touch screen,
A different keyboard

Two new things (IMO):
(1)
        Plug-and-play VGA-out PC card
        Instant connectivity to external VGA monitor or projector
        Display screens from any application; up
        to SVGA (800-by-600) resolution
(2)
Lithium-ion rechargeable battery pack.
        This should give *much* longer battery life. Unless it is a *really*
power hungry beast. I note that HP do not mention battery life...

Conclusion: If this sucker could run linux, I would buy it.


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"What is bought with money or with goods is purchased by labour as much
as what we acquire by the toil of our own body."

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Hi everyone,
        here's a problem that I haven't heard anything about on the list and
am wondering if anyone has experienced the same.  Just a few days ago I
noticed that the rate at which my cursor was blinking seemed way too fast.
So, I went into my appointment book and the clock in there was counting off
time 4 times its normal speed! Even the stopwatch was counting time at four
times its normal speed.  I went into World Time to see if there was
something different but it was also having the same problem.  The
interesting thing is, though, that when I look at the time my palmtop reads
when I shut it off and then turn it back on it has corrected itself to the
normal time, and then once again goes bazerk.  This would lead me to believe
that my internal clock is not off, but something within the Application
Manager is. I don't have any software to check my clock speed within dos
which might be another check I could do.

Any ideas?
Kevin Barnhart
itstmp2@wmc.edu

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> Anybody looking for a mouse for the palmtop?  The Cirque Easy Cat
> touchpad is an inexpensive and small pointing device that you can use
> with the 200LX.  It sells for under $30 and has some neat features,
> not to mention its size.

Sounds cool. Some people have attached pointing devices; but I seem to
recall that current draw was a factor....


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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:03:45 +1300
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Darren Frick wrote:
>
> LXSTAT from SUPER SITE will do both of those things plus a whole lot
> more. It's only like 14k and I have it on the path. Lets one view/change
> Video / sound / battery / timeout / serial port  and more.
>
hi Darren.
Couldnt find it on S.U.P.E.R
but an AltaVista search ( http://www.altavista.digital.com/ )gave me
http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/distrib/hp95lx/NEW/

Theres a huge list of Palmtop stuff here. Download direct from:
http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/distrib/hp95lx/NEW/lxstat.zip

Also someone wanted the URL for Jam
http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/distrib/hp95lx/NEW/jam125sw.zip

Don't be fooled by the "hp95lx" in the name, this site has software
for the 200lx as fresh as yesterday!

cheers
John
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David & Mike,

I'm having exactly the same problem running on a Pentium II, Win95, 64MB. I'm not
running an EMS driver either. Keep me posted, I'm eager to take Agenda for a test
drive on the PC before installing on on my 200LX.

Keith

David Hart wrote:

> Mike, I'm going out of my wits end on Agenda. I have a Pentium, Win 95, 16MB
> memory. I've also tried it out on another Pentium in the office. I've tried to
> run the INSTALL.EXE program several ways, from explorer, from the Start -> Run
> (I get an different error A:\INSTALL.EXE is not a valid Win32 application),
> I've tried restart the computer with the MS-DOS PROMPT and I've even booted up
> to get a DOS prompt bypassing Windows altogether and I still get "Program too
> big to fit in memory" error. The one thing I don't have is an EMS driver for
> my DOS session in Win95.
>
> ===
> Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
> Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx
>
> ---mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for using NetForward!
> > http://www.netforward.com
> > v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
> >
> > I was assuming that you where running Win95 on Pentium PC.
> >
> > If not, I can't help you.
> >
> > I am running straight Win95 on a desktop Pentium.  I installed Agrenda using
> ÝStart¨ ->
> > ÝRun¨, not from DOS.
> >
> > --- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:43:57 -0800 (PST)  David Hart
> <hartd@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Let me examine the process. I tried to run install.exe but I'm not allowed to
> > >run it from explorer or run because it assumes all install.exe programs are
> 32
> > >bit install programs. So I bring up a DOS prompt and it gives me a program
> too
> > >big to fit error when I try to run install.exe. The one thing I can say is
> > >that I do not have an EMS driver program for Windows 95. Are you running an
> > >EMS driver program?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >===
> > >Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
> > >Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
> > >"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> > >Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for using NetForward!
> > >> http://www.netforward.com
> > >> v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v¬v
> > >>
> > >> I'm running Agenda 2.0, as downloaded from the Lotus ftp site, in Win95.
> > >>
> > >> I just ran the normal Agenda install program from Win95 and everything
> > >worked fine.
> > >>
> > >> After installation, I opened Agenda's file folder, right clicked
> AGENDA.EXE,
> > >and selected Create Shortcut.
> > >> This created Lotus Agenda.PIF, which I dragged out to my desktop.
> > >>
> > >> Double clicking the Lotus Agenda icon on my desktop starts Agenda in full
> > >screen mode.
> > >>
> > >> NOTE: When installing anything in Win95, it is always a good idea to close
> > >any open applications.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:21:34 -0800  David Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM>
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Has anybody been able to install Agenda onto a Win95 computer? I'm
> trying to
> > >> >follow those directions that mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM gave and I never can
> get
> > >> >the install program to run. It keeps saying "Program too big to fit in
> > >memory"
> > >> >error.
> > >> >
> > >> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
> > >>
> > >> ______________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
> > >>            11/18/97 6:14:21 PM EST
> > >> ______________________________________________
> > >>
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________________________
> > >Sent by Yahoo! Mail. Get your free e-mail at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> > -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
> >
> > ______________________________________________
> >
> >   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
> >            11/18/97 7:46:34 PM EST
> > ______________________________________________
> >
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Date:         Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:20:07 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: Velo1 Voice recording CORECTION!!

Sorry I made a mistake when I said that is stored 1 minute of voice per 1K
of space, that should be 1 SECOND of voice per 1K of space, quite a
difference. I haven't used the memo function much recently so I was a
little off there. :-() It may reach better compression levels for longer
messages, I have never tried it. Also, not only is the recorded data stored
in a compressed format but the underlying object store compresses files too
so that might account for some more space saving. the 1 hour per megabyte
might reflect better compression on both parts in CE 2.0.


Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:35:08 -0600
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>Hi:
>
>> ACE made a program called Magnify, an exm which worked well on an 100lx and
>> 200lx for viewing magnified shots of sysman (built-in) apps.  It works best
>> when the database apps (phone and dbase,etc) are in list mode, rather than
>> in datacard mode.
>
>Magnify is ALIVE and WELL! It is now produced by D&A Software
>Inc. It is sold through our dealers or directly.
>
>The version we license is slightly improved, and it is now
>version 1.50.
>
>Magnify has nothing to do anymore with ACE as ACE has closed
>their doors.
>
>Best Regards,
>
> Avi Meshar
> D&A Software, Inc.
>

Is there an upgrade for existing Magnify 1.1 users or do I just contact
Shier to purchase the new one?

Does 1.50 work better with Buddy?

Ken Land

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:55:32 -0700, Helmut wrote:

>   When is Europe ever going to standardize any thing? I was born and
>raised in Europe but have been in the USA for over 40 years. It just
>amazes me every time they try to do something some says "Not Me" and =
they
>have to start all over again. What a mess. MHO.

I think if you came back you'd be amazed just how much standardisation
there is in Europe, Helmut. They've even standardised our food, we can
only sell certain types of each fruit and vegetable in the shops! It's
gone too far, and national identities are being eroded. I'd better
stop now, this is one of my hobby horses.

Eurosceptics rule OK!

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
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>    When is Europe ever going to standardize any thing? I was born and
> raised in Europe but have been in the USA for over 40 years. It just
> amazes me every time they try to do something some says "Not Me" and they
> have to start all over again. What a mess. MHO.
>
Maybe when the US uses the metric system and reasonable paper formats
:-) ?

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Conclusion: If this sucker could run linux, I would buy it.
me too


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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:01:13 +0100
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Joe Rooney wrote:

> (I feel like a little bird squeeking "feed me! feed me!")

... or like the Electronic Pet Game

BTW I can get them (these PETs) cheap if any on the list cares.

JS
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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:45:22 +0000
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I lost the EMail of the one who sent the program to me...

Thanks for sending it but it lacks features that are essential for
me, e.g. filing boxes for questions.

Regards,
Christof

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Hello,

Has anyone gotten playwav off the Super site to work.  All I get is=
 silence.
I would love to play the sound of my 2 year old laughing on my palmtop.
Thanks in advance.

Dennis Faucher
Consultant
Hewlett-Packard Company
Burlington, MA
(617) 221-5090
dennis_faucher@hp.com

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I have now received the "Magnify" program and it does exactly what I had expected. It is excellent for temporarily  magnifying a small portion of the screen. The magnified portion comes up in a box similar to a cell in a spreadsheet. Turns on with a key-stroke and off with Escape. I bought it for $19.00 from Shier.
By the way, just this morning I connected my 200LX to my iomega Zip Drive. Very pleased with that capability. This is done with a PCMCIA Parallel card from TransDigital. Approx.$150. Good stuff!
Ken Moore
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Hi all folks,

Thanks for Quinton bringing up-to-minute information to us.

At the first glance, HP 620LX is bigger than Libretto but obviously it is
far away from Libretto in terms of performance.  What are the selling
points??  What is it going to replace?


Raymond Li

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At 02:11 PM 20/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>For a look and more specifications.
>Visit: http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/hp600lx/c_pspec/c_pspec.html
>
>
>
>                Memory
>                                  16 MB RAM, user upgradable
>                                  10 MB ROM, user upgradable, Fast Page
>                                Mode
>                Color Display
>                                  640 x 240 pixel LCD
>                                  256 Colors
>                                  Backlit
>                                  Auto Dimming Touch Screen
>                                  Pen and Touch Interface
>                CPU
>                                High Performance 32 bit RISC CPU Running
>                                at 75 MHz
>                Size
>                                7.8 x 4.1 x 1.4 in (19.8 x 10.4 x 3.6 cm)
>                Weight
>                                586g (20.6oz) with batteries
>                Operating
>                System
>                                Microsoft Windows CE 2.0 O/S with Color
>                                Support
>
>                Power
>                                  Lithium-ion rechargeable battery pack
>                                  One 3V CR2032 coin-cell backup battery
>                                  AC Adapter HP F1241A for power and
>                                battery recharge
>                Input / Output
>                                  Built-in Serial Interface for connection to
>                                RS-232 device
>                                  Built-in Infrared Port (IrDA standard,
>                                115-Kb/s)
>                                  PC Card Type II Plug-in Card Slot (for
>                                adding memory or I/O cards)
>                                  CompactFlash Card Slot
>                                  Audio Speaker
>
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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:36:44 +0800
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Hi,

As I know there are only one way to do EXM programs in a simple way (easier
than using HP's development kit which requires MS C 6.0) which will be 100%
compatible with all the build-in functions=>USE NKIT (at S.U.P.E.R :
www.palmtop.net). You need also the The Developer's Guide or The HP Palmtop
Paper's CD Infobase CD-ROM which you can buy from Thaddeus
(www.thaddeus.com). It's also very helpful with a collection of some
Japanese Programs of which many includes the source code.

I am not a programmer, but I found EXM programs so interesting that I
actually took a look at the source code of several Japanese programs and a
peek in the Developer's Guide. It took me ruffly 5 evenings of study (as a
non programmer!!!) With these sources, I could do my own simple program.
Yes, I am not a programmer but Turbo C is not that difficult if you look at
some examples- at least not when you write SIMPLE STUFF like I did!! With
NKIT you can use Turbo C++ 1.0 and above which makes things cheaper and
easier!!!!!!

There are many advantages with EXM programs!!! One that you all probably
have already seen is that you can switch between several applications.
Another which I realized when I was playing around with EXM programming was
the size of the programs. I made a simple program which could read the
serial port of my HP 200LX and collect the GPS data (from my Tripmate) and
then display it on the screen with the current coordinates, time, speed
e.t.c. with some simple calculations. I made the same program the
conventional way, also with menus, but as an EXE program. The difference in
size was interesting!!!: The EXE program was about 27Kb big and the EXM
about 3Kb!!!! I realized that the reason for this small size is that the HP
200LX HAS ALL THE FUNCTIONS BUILD-IN in the ROM so it's just to call them
up in an EXM program and there you have the menus, radio buttons e.t.c. I
also found another interesting advantage- you can actually make programs
which is "running all the time". I mean if you call up the drop down menu
in an EXE program all activities will stop waiting for your input. But in
an EXM program it will not stop, but continue processing while you are
using the menu- for example.

Now maybe some of you say that it's no point to make an EXM program since
you can only have 8 of them in a HP 200LX. But that's wrong ( I have 39 EXM
programs in my 200LX)!!!! Thanks to Hiroyuki Sekiya and  TabiKuro- two of
MANY GREAT JAPANESE PROGRAMERS (and they are MANY!!!!!) we have MoreEXM and
SMMx which will give you an 'unlimited' amount of EXM programs together
with installed icons on your palmtop. I guess most of you know this by now,
but better I mention it if not. I also should mention that thanks to
MoreEXM, SMMx and MaxDOS (by MeW) (and a 85MB flash card) I have over 150
great programs on my palmtop which I can run from within the SysMgr and
each one has its own icon!!!

As I have said several times- I am NOT a programmer (unfortunately!!!) and
have no time to learn REAL (I am over 30 now with a very busy schedule) C
programming so it doesn't make it worthwhile doing some programming. I
always have to look at examples and the help files in order to figure out
how to do simple things. So it takes me a very long time to do a program.
But I sincerely hope that some of you are interested in NKIT and will give
it a try!!!!!!!! I can't help you much with the C programming itself, but
please feel free to contact me anyway- for example a list of Japanese
programs available on the net which has source codes so you can see the
'style of programming' could be useful- right!!!?. If you are serious about
doing an EXM program but can't afford to buy the developer's Guide due to
Studies or something like that- I am willing to let you send questions and
I will check in my Developer's Guide (I don't thing that Thaddeus Computing
will object since it's better with one more available EXM program than no
program at all- am I right Thaddeus: Tom and Hal? Thaddeus- please send me
an e-mail if you feel that I am to OPEN regarding YOUR material!!!

Please be informed that if I receive questions from MANY people now, I know
that some of you are trying to get "a free ride"- which means that you can
afford spending a few $, but you prefers NOT- We don't like that!!! If you
can afford The HP 100/200LX Developer's Kit, you should buy it since you
will then support Thankers Computing and Thaddeus supports you- the HP
200LX user!!!!!!! In the Developer's Guide you can find at least 90-95% of
what an advanced programmer needs to know about HP 100/200LX.

 I love my HP 200LX and since I can't make any sophisticated programs
myself- I am more than willing to help you programmers out there- around
the world- with as much as I can do. What I don't know, I can probably find
out since I have access to a lots of interesting PUBLIC information about
HP 200LX. But PLEASE be serious!!! I only reply to e-mail which sounds
serious and NOT LIKE THIS (I have received many like the following):

"Hi, I like the 200LX and since I want to do some nice programs- send me
the info!!"
::No Manner at all!!!..:

OR

"Hi,
I like to fart and I urgently need a program which can record my farts in
real time using the 200lx palmtop"
::This guy has probaly been at 'www.farts.com' which I personally find most
disgusting and a FUNNY place to be...::

Or

"send me the norton commander 4.0- I need it!"

::What is this......????

Actually it's easy for me to see who is serious and NOT. I have received
many funny e-mails and I am would like to receive a serious one from you!!!
If you are serious- I know and I will make sure (up to 98%) that you get a
reply which will help you in your programming.

I also must mention that the NEW HP 360LX with Win CE 2.0 is a GREAT
machine for people that likes a MS Windows interface on a palmtop!
Actually, HP has the first Win CE 2.0 palmtop in the WORLD!!! The great
thing with Win CE is that the concept: 'Palmtop PC' became well knowned
even among "non-hacking" people!!! Now EVERYONE can use a palmtop but some
(many) of us still loves the DOS package which we get in a HP 200LX and
which we can keep in our pocket- true PC Power! So to be fair- if anyone of
you programmers out there is interested in Developing Win CE programs but
have difficulties to get started- please let me know and I will help you
TO!!!!!!!!


Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. Please don't expect any reply from me before 2-3 maybe 5th or 6th of
December since I am going to a big country somewhere in Asia- and I am not
sure if I can retrieve my e-mail there or not. But one thing I know- the
grilled snakes tastes good and the dogs to!!!

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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:27:32 -0300
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HP>What can I say? It's not a joke!

   Yes, it's true !!!!! but.....win ce 2.0 !!!! the nightmare goes on !

   Why not Unix, Linux, Dos 6.22, Or even a MAC type ?

   But.....that is not a palmtop anymore....is like that terrible
   feeling, when all people, on the plane, or the train is looking at
   you, and your full color device !!

   Future is coming, and is not a good one....

   Martin
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> As I know there are only one way to do EXM programs in a simple way (easier
> than using HP's development kit which requires MS C 6.0) which will be 100%
> compatible with all the build-in functions=>USE NKIT (at S.U.P.E.R :


What we need is a good tutorial for people on how to write EXM programs.  I'm
sure there are a lot of people who can do basic C programming but don't have
time to try to figure out how to create an EXM file.  Maybe a few simple
applications with commented source code and a file showing you how they work,
step by step.  Compilation options and what not that you need with EXM files
would also be helpful.
Anybody up to it?  I'd be willing to do whatever I can... which might not be
much (yet!) in the area of EXM programming.
--
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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:32:08 +0800
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>Hi all folks,
>
>Thanks for Quinton bringing up-to-minute information to us.
>
>At the first glance, HP 620LX is bigger than Libretto but obviously it is
>far away from Libretto in terms of performance.  What are the selling
>points??  What is it going to replace?
>
>
>Raymond Li

As the Product Manager of HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific, I have some
comments here! I don't think that you have actually seen the Toshiba
Libretto side by side with HP 620LX- that's why you say it's bigger than
the Libretto!!! Have you actually seen these 2 PC's side by side???????? I
don't think so!!!!!!!!!  If you had, you have realized that HP 620LX is
MUCH SMALLER than the Libretto and that the Libretto has less battery life
and can't do the same thing as the HP 620LX can do in the long run!

Please don't forget that MS plan to have 2 Operating Systems in the end- MS
NT and Win CE. It's up to you to decide what you want to have- maybe Hp
200LX or Win CE??? I take HP xxxxx!!!!!


Jorgen






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|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:57:17 +0800
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>Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
>> As I know there are only one way to do EXM programs in a simple way (easier
>> than using HP's development kit which requires MS C 6.0) which will be 100%
>> compatible with all the build-in functions=>USE NKIT (at S.U.P.E.R :
>
>
>What we need is a good tutorial for people on how to write EXM programs.  I'm
>sure there are a lot of people who can do basic C programming but don't have
>time to try to figure out how to create an EXM file.  Maybe a few simple
>applications with commented source code and a file showing you how they work,
>step by step.  Compilation options and what not that you need with EXM files
>would also be helpful.
>Anybody up to it?  I'd be willing to do whatever I can... which might not be
>much (yet!) in the area of EXM programming.
>--

In many ways- I agree with you!!! But a tutorial is not realy necessary
since I feel that if a guy like me can do a simple EXM program- so can you
programmers. The tutorials are already there- the Japanese source codes!!!
As I mentioned, a few days with the source codes and you are up and
running. As I said, I am not a Programmer and I don't have the knowledge
but since I have seen the NKIT- I am ready for a challange!!! My first wish
is a GOOD Alarm Clock- I wish I could make one!!! But if anyone of you say
that it's impossimple to do a good Alarm Clock using NKIT- I will try my
best to prove you wrong! The problem is that I am not a programmer, but
maybe I can do something anyway>>>>> If you need any help- ask the guy
which don't know much! :)))) Me-la!

Jorgen


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><snip>
>Please don't forget that MS plan to have 2 Operating Systems in the end- MS
>NT and Win CE. It's up to you to decide what you want to have- maybe Hp
>200LX or Win CE??? I take HP xxxxx!!!!!
<snip>

Ok... give me a minute...  I choose, DOS!  Yes thats correct, I choose
to remain with an older system because I don't like Microsoft's current
offerings.  Go ahead, use all the dried-out arguments about being
stuck-in-the-mud, "hurting yourself", and etc.  When I see something
useful come of the greatly over-rated Windows CE product offerings, then
>and only then< will I spend _my_ money.  As a final note, why don't you
tell your product design people that I just bought my second HP200Lx
(yes, thats DOS) even though it cost more than your latest WinCE
product.

>Phil

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>><snip>
>>Please don't forget that MS plan to have 2 Operating Systems in the end- MS
>>NT and Win CE. It's up to you to decide what you want to have- maybe Hp
>>200LX or Win CE??? I take HP xxxxx!!!!!
><snip>
>
>Ok... give me a minute...  I choose, DOS!  Yes thats correct, I choose
>to remain with an older system because I don't like Microsoft's current
>offerings.  Go ahead, use all the dried-out arguments about being
>stuck-in-the-mud, "hurting yourself", and etc.  When I see something
>useful come of the greatly over-rated Windows CE product offerings, then
>>and only then< will I spend _my_ money.  As a final note, why don't you
>tell your product design people that I just bought my second HP200Lx
>(yes, thats DOS) even though it cost more than your latest WinCE
>product.
>
>>Phil

Please don't blame me! I am using HP 200LX and THEY now that I have 3 of
them- HP 200LX!!!

Jorgen


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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> In many ways- I agree with you!!! But a tutorial is not realy necessary
> since I feel that if a guy like me can do a simple EXM program- so can you
> programmers. The tutorials are already there- the Japanese source codes!!!

Yeah, but there are probably a lot of people who would give EXM's a try if there
was a tutorial, instead of just having to decipher source codes themselves.  It's
much less of a gamble that way-- you know it's going to be easy to learn.
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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:33:51 +0800
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>Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
>> In many ways- I agree with you!!! But a tutorial is not realy necessary
>> since I feel that if a guy like me can do a simple EXM program- so can you
>> programmers. The tutorials are already there- the Japanese source codes!!!
>
>Yeah, but there are probably a lot of people who would give EXM's a try if
there
>was a tutorial, instead of just having to decipher source codes
themselves.  It's
>much less of a gamble that way-- you know it's going to be easy to learn.
>--
>Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

Yes, that's why I mentioned in my message that anyone interested can
contact me! I will try to help interested EXM programmers as much as I can.
Nothing here in life is for free- but if I can give the programmers 'out
there' some info which will help them- I am happy!!! What do you need to know?

Regards,

Jorgen


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Is there a file size limit on the .pcx file?  I've been trying to
display one that is about 100K and it won't work.  Does it have to be
a bitmap?
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Hi Jorgen,

Thanks for comments from HP personnel.  Firstly, I am a HP fans indeed.  I
believe HP 200LX is still ahead other similar products on the market.

At 11:32 PM 21/11/97 +0800, you wrote:
>>Hi all folks,
>>
>>Thanks for Quinton bringing up-to-minute information to us.
>>
>>At the first glance, HP 620LX is bigger than Libretto but obviously it is
>>far away from Libretto in terms of performance.  What are the selling
>>points??  What is it going to replace?
>>
>>
>>Raymond Li
>
>As the Product Manager of HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific, I have some
>comments here! I don't think that you have actually seen the Toshiba
>Libretto side by side with HP 620LX- that's why you say it's bigger than
>the Libretto!!! Have you actually seen these 2 PC's side by side???????? I
>don't think so!!!!!!!!!  If you had, you have realized that HP 620LX is
>MUCH SMALLER than the Libretto and that the Libretto has less battery life
>and can't do the same thing as the HP 620LX can do in the long run!


You are quite right.  I have not actually seen the product in Hong Kong.
Probably you know more than I do as a product manager in Asia Pacific.
When will it be launched in Hong Kong?  I will de finitely compare it with
Libretto as I would like to replace my notebook computer with Libretto
which is more appropriate for normal business travellers.  Is there any
potential for HP 620LX to replace a notebook computer?  Could you share
your design objectives with us.


>
>Please don't forget that MS plan to have 2 Operating Systems in the end- MS
>NT and Win CE. It's up to you to decide what you want to have- maybe Hp
>200LX or Win CE??? I take HP xxxxx!!!!!
>

It all depends on the perception of Win CE!!

>
>Jorgen
>
>
>
>
>
>
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It seems that it must be a 640 x 200 Bi-level (1 bit per pixel) at 75
dots-per-inch.

Phil
>----------
>From:  B WillsÝSMTP:btw@VNET.NET¨
>Sent:  Friday, November 21, 1997 9:33 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       topcard prob
>
>Is there a file size limit on the .pcx file?  I've been trying to
>display one that is about 100K and it won't work.  Does it have to be
>a bitmap?
>

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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:59:10 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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>Yeah, but there are probably a lot of people who would give EXM's a try if
there
>was a tutorial, instead of just having to decipher source codes
themselves.  It's
>much less of a gamble that way-- you know it's going to be easy to learn.

Sorry to say this- but so far I have never experienced anything in life
that's easy or FREE. I am now sitting here reading you lines again and then
I realize that you expect an easy way out. Have you seen the Japanese
programs, how easy they all can beat all knowned western 200LX programming?
How do you think they do that?? Not through complaining or crying for help,
but though hard work!!! As I said in my earlier message- I am not a
programmer but I could still produce something.. If you know Turbo C++ and
can read Japanese Source Code- (in English!!!), you can produce very
interesting programs- IF you know more than me about C programming... Which
I belive Most of the readers of this message can- you will be able to do
very interesting programs!!!!

As I mentioned earlier- PLEASE send me questions about the NKIT EXM
programming and I will try to give you a reply. I don't want complaints
about lack of info, since I am not in charge of that- I am only trying to
help out here!!!!

Jorgen

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I've a small probleme with an interrupt. In the Ralph Brown's List,the
get power info interrupt is described as follow  :
INT 15 U - HP 100LX/200LX - GET POWER INFO
   AX = 6002h
Return = AL = power settings:
Bitfields for power settings :
Bit             description
0-1             unused ?
2               card battery status low (ok if bit clear)
3               battery charging off (disbled if bits 3-5 clear)
4               battery charging slow
5               battery charging fast
6               power adaptator active
7               battery type NiCad (alkaline if bit clear)

When I test this interrupt, it work's well for all the bits except bit
6. The interrupt return bit 6 set to 1 while the HP is powered with
alkaline. As I don't own a power adaptator, I'm not able to know if
this bit is set to 0 when power adaptator is active.

Could anyone help me to resolve this problem ?

Thank you.

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>By the way, just this morning I connected my
>200LX to my iomega Zip Drive. Very pleased with that capability. This is
>done with a PCMCIA Parallel card from TransDigital. Approx.$150. Good
>stuff! Ken Moore

I have been considering that but have not done so yet.  It seemed to me
that it would not be practical to carry both around because that would
destroy the ease of portability I now enjoy by putting the LX in my
pocket, but that it might be useful as a rapid backup system.  Is that how
you use it primarily?  Did you need special software to make the LX
recognize the Zip drive?

Thanks.

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The November 17, 1997, PC Week had a test of the two new HP LX machines and
the Packard Bell NEC MobilePro 700. The headline on the front of the
magazine kind of sums it up:

"Windows CE 2.0 does nothing to make handhelds more than oversized PDAs or
underpowered latptops"

The rest of the article was similarly unflattering. I guess HP and Packard
Bell had not paid their advertising bills for the month.

One interesting note was the the 360LX will ship with Nickel Metal Hydride
batteries. I always thought HP hated those things. Also, the 620LX is a
hoss; 20.5 ounces and measures 7.75 x 4.25 x 1.13 inches. I wouldn't want to
drop one of those things on my foot!

;)

Mitch

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Well friends,
Some of you have heard me recently tell of the joys of IR printing with the drivers gotten off of the S.U.P.E.R. site, magnifying with "Magnify" and connecting to my Zip Drive with the TransDigital Card. Now I have a problem.
For some reason I cannot seem to print to my HP printer via IR as I was before I installed the TransPC Parallel card. Not sure why. I checked in setup and the IR is still selected as the method of printing. I removed the card and rebooted. I don't know what to try next.
If any of you know what I am talking about and use the above mentoned programs and drivers, perhaps you can help.

Thanks ahead of time,
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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:06:03 +0800
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Subject:      Re: HP 620LX Colored Palmtop PC: GIVE ME A BREAK!
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>Hi Jorgen,
>
>Thanks for comments from HP personnel.  Firstly, I am a HP fans indeed.  I
>believe HP 200LX is still ahead other similar products on the market.

So do I!!!
>
>
>You are quite right.  I have not actually seen the product in Hong Kong.
>Probably you know more than I do as a product manager in Asia Pacific.
>When will it be launched in Hong Kong?  I will de finitely compare it with
>Libretto as I would like to replace my notebook computer with Libretto
>which is more appropriate for normal business travellers.  Is there any
>potential for HP 620LX to replace a notebook computer?  Could you share
>your design objectives with us.

As anyone can see from our web site (www.hp.com/handheld) we are doing
something that is not common for HP- going out with a early press release....

I am a HP 200LX 'Die Hard Fan' which will not give up my 200LX easily!!!
But as a Product Manager for HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific, I can see the
fast growing potential for Win CE palmtops in this region from the day it
was launched. Many countries in Asia Pacific is on our list of highly
potential regions for sales of 360LX and 620LX. Singapore and Hong Kong is
2 of them! Even if the majority of us on this List is HP 200LX fans, the
fact is that HP Win CE Palmtop has been very successful- far more
successful than 200LX- so far and it's our intention to continue to be #1!
Yes, Toshiba Libretto is a great PC but it's still a notebook! The price
difference between Libretto and HP 620LX will still be an advantage to HP
620LX since we can expect more than 1/2 the price of a Libretto. The size
is also much smaller than a Libretto and as a mobile person you can
probably expect that you sooner or later will accidentally drop your PC.
When you do that, the hard disk in a Libretto will give you BIG problems,
but HP 620LX will still continue to run without a problem- HP Quality!!!

The major question a mobile user has to ask himself is- what do I need to
do with a mobile PC?? The Majority need to use a handheld PC for e-mail,
web browsing, and working on documents and Excel files. This can be done
comfortably already with a 360LX since it has 16 shades of gray and it is
much faster than 320LX. So what is the next step? Many Users are telling me
that color is nice but they don't realy need it. So with other words, I
expect that 360LX will be a major hit when people realize what they need
and one thing among it is battery life- which 360LX can deliver. Both units
(360LX & 620LX) will give you a Pocket PowerPoint Presentation in the
beginning of 98, which can be delivered through a VGA output. Even if the
screen of 360LX has 16 shades of gray, a Pocket PowerPoint out put will
deliver your presentation in color. We can also expect an ActiveX and Java
plugin for Pocket Internet Explorer as soon as it will be released by MS.
Frames are already supported.
>
>>
>>Please don't forget that MS plan to have 2 Operating Systems in the end- MS
>>NT and Win CE. It's up to you to decide what you want to have- maybe Hp
>>200LX or Win CE??? I take HP xxxxx!!!!!
>>
>
>It all depends on the perception of Win CE!!

Yes, it's true!!!! But if we see how successful MS has been so far with Win
95 & NT- Win CE users should not worry!!

Regards,

Jorgen

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Why would someone buy a 620LX, when the new mini Pentium laptops (Libretto) are
available?

--- On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:45:22 -0500  "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

the 620LX is a
>hoss; 20.5 ounces and measures 7.75 x 4.25 x 1.13 inches. I wouldn't want to
>drop one of those things on my foot!
>
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>Why would someone buy a 620LX, when the new mini Pentium laptops
(Libretto) are
>available?

You can't imagine all of the reasons! Some of them is: e-mail, web
browsing, Excel, Word, e.t.c without the risk of a HD crash and the best
thing is 1/2 the price!!!

Jorgen
P.S. People always ask for more and more. I still think that a HP 200LX
delivers MORE than any PC can!!!!!!!!!!! So small, yet so powerful.


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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:33:23 -0500
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              Mark Sailer <msailer@ML.COM>
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>I am a HP 200LX 'Die Hard Fan' which will not give up my 200LX easily!!!
Me too, BUT ......
<SNIP>
>The major question a mobile user has to ask himself is- what do I need to
>do with a mobile PC?? The Majority need to use a handheld PC for e-mail,
>web browsing, and working on documents and Excel files.

What might be the deciding point, at least for me, is if the VT100
emulation actually works and works well.   I need that to support the 300
or so SUN SPARC servers that I support daily.

How about network card support?  Is that there yet???

        The one thing I hate about Pocket WORD/Excel is that when you "import"
them you lose say, 90% of your formatting.  Why can't they just leave the
file alone and just use the parameters that WinCE supports with out
altering the file?  This way I don't have to  spent hours putting the
formatting (fonts, colors, layout, graphics) back in when I bring it back
to the desktop again.  Hopefully they "FIXED" it.



====================
Mark Sailer
Sr. UNIX System Administrator
UNIX/Teknekron/TRIARCH
Digital Market Data Infrastructure
Merrill Lynch, New York
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At 02:23 AM 11/22/97 +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>>Why would someone buy a 620LX, when the new mini Pentium laptops
>(Libretto) are
>>available?
>
>You can't imagine all of the reasons! Some of them is: e-mail, web
>browsing, Excel, Word, e.t.c without the risk of a HD crash and the best
>thing is 1/2 the price!!!
>
>Jorgen
>P.S. People always ask for more and more. I still think that a HP 200LX
>delivers MORE than any PC can!!!!!!!!!!! So small, yet so powerful.
>

Probably the biggest one and why I still use the HP200 is.....

                        INSTANT ON!
You don't have to wait for it to boot.

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>
>Yes, it's true!!!! But if we see how successful MS has been so far with Win
>95 & NT- Win CE users should not worry!!

The concept of success is different depending on which side of the
product fence you are standing on.  If the 200LX had half the
advertisement support that the CE products have, I doubt that the CE
products (at least in release 1.0) would have made quite the market
penetration they seem to have.  I also believe that if you target a
group who's needs are less... (how do I say this without starting a
_big_ fight) demanding, you are going to find it easier to report
"successful" market performance.  The users of the HP95,100,200 series
of machines will always have problems with the CE products (at least
until those products support DOS).  We enjoy the power and qwerkyness of
the more mature operating systems and don't like the popular trend
towards total replacement of existing software.  Face it, if you are
using a product that is no longer supported by it's creators, weather it
be hardware or software, you aren't going to want to drop it and go to
something that does not provide the same end results.

end of tirade.  :)

Phil

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>How about network card support?  Is that there yet???
Yes.
>
>        The one thing I hate about Pocket WORD/Excel is that when you
"import"
>them you lose say, 90% of your formatting.  Why can't they just leave the
>file alone and just use the parameters that WinCE supports with out
>altering the file?  This way I don't have to  spent hours putting the
>formatting (fonts, colors, layout, graphics) back in when I bring it back
>to the desktop again.  Hopefully they "FIXED" it.

More formatting- yes.

What I mainly like with Win CE 2.0 is that MS will give now you some
options: would you like to develop a program in Visual C++ 5.0, Visual
Basic 5.0 or in Visual Java (it's coffe- right?). This gives the Win Ce
platform a major advantage over 200LX since it's not that easy to make EXM
programs (even if you use NKIT!!!) compare to VB....

However, I am not so sure that I am prepared to have a backup of my laundry
when I run my Visual Win CE washing machine!!!?? According to MS a Win CE
washing machine is a machine which exsist but still NOT exsist- since it's
Visual. So if you want your dirty clothes to be there- they are. But on the
other side if you preffer not- they are gone! So the question is if you
want to see your dirty laundry or not! It's a little bit complicated since
you can't actually see where your dirty clothes goes, but you will have a
fealing of where they are since you still can feel a sense of shit..... The
only problem is that when the clothes are in, you may not get them out.
Which on the other side makes them cleaner than before- since you can't
prove that they are not. This since you then can't compare- which makes
sense according to MS. So with other words- if you call the MS support
line, make sure your underware is full of shit and that you have it under
you nose. Otherwise MS Support line will ask you if you ever bougth a
machine or if you have anyting that smells shit in your home..

Hue- that was even complicated even for me! So how in h_ll am I going to
start my Visual Girlfriend (according to MS  I need a *.LOD file from the
InstallShield SDK???)?????

LIFE WAS EASIER BEFORE MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!


Jorgen

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:23:10 -0500, you wrote:

>Anybody looking for a mouse for the palmtop?  The Cirque Easy Cat
>touchpad is an inexpensive and small pointing device that you can use
>with the 200LX.  It sells for under $30 and has some neat features,
>not to mention its size.

Sounds good. The cheapest I've seen a similar device in the UK is
about 60 UKP, around $100 US.  Could you give a pointer to where these
can be obtained?

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
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Subject:      Wheather forecast and the HP200 ?
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Hi,
if you enjoy surfing the web with your HP200LX and if you are European,=
 you might find interesting to go to the french Meteosat (meteorological=
 satellite) site:

http://www.meteo.fr/tpsreel/tpsreel_1.html

When you are there, download the last Meteosat image of Europe (".../tpsree=
l/images/satt0.jpg"): if your browser is WWW/LX, after selecting this=
 link, it will ask you if you want to save the image on your disk or=
 to view it with the external viewer, chose to save it (it requires=
 about 100Kbytes) and exit from Internet.
Finally load the image with LXPIC and save it as Black & White Pcx file=
 in order to get the best display performance (it reduces also the file=
 from 100K to about 60K). Reload the Pcx file into LXPIC and you are=
 ready to make your own weather forecast!

But you can do more. If you have enough time to download four 100K JPG=
 images 8-(, you can download all the four meteosat images taken from=
 the satellite at the 0 U.T.C. (universal time), 6 U.T.C., 12 U.T.C.=
 and 18 U.T.C.; treat all the four images with LXPIC as described above=
 (call them for exemple meteo01.pcx, meteo02.pcx, meteo03.pcx and meteo04.p=
cx); run LXPIC (c:\LXPIC meteo*.pcx c/r) and use LXPIC in "Video mode":=
 you will get the animation of the weather over Europe in the last 24=
 hours.

Bye, Paolo

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Well, Jorgen, we all know you're a busy guy.  Maybe if you get a lot=
 of
questions we could compile an EXM FAQ list...

See, the thing I have about examining source code is, a lot of the time
it's not too clear what functions are being used, or what the
programmer is trying to do.  I know that if somebody examined MY code
they'd probably go crazy from trying to figure out what I'm trying to
accomplish.  (One of the drawbacks of not being trained in the theory
of computer science is having to come up with your own algorithms...
which may or may not make sense to anybody else.)  A tutorial would
be useful to people like me who have some basic ideas about how to
implement things, but need to know exactly how to implement it using
code built in the ROM.

Also, when you examine source code, you're looking at code designed=
 to
do a specific task... not necessarily the same thing you want to do=
 in
your program.  A tutorial would explain in general terms.  I haven't
looked at much source code to the Japanese programs, though, so I can't
say for sure how helpful it would be to me.  If it's well documented,
it would be quite valuable.

Of course we potential programmers out here appreciate your offer of
assistance with NKIT-- I'll probably take you up on it.  Keep up the
good work!

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As far as I know it's available at computer stores everywhere, and on
Internet stores.  I paid $26.95 for mine.

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I have noticed that several 100/200LX users on the list are using HP Ominbook 600's to supplement their
palmtops.

I'm not that familiar with these Omnibooks, so I have a couple of questions:

    How is this working out?

    What the best model for this type of use?

    What are the basic dimensions of the Omnibook closed and how much does it weight?

    How serviceable are their battery packs - hours of use?

Thanks,

Michael
______________________________________________

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           11/21/97 4:17:38 PM EST
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              97 07:18:41 am
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David,
it looks like there is a problem with this webside:

File Not found

The requested URL /davidsa/hp/speaker.htm was not found on this server.



Jens


>
> Okay, I modified my 200LX so that it now has a jack for headphones,
> using parts you can buy at Radio Shack for under $10.  I'll post a page
> up to my web site describing it, with pictures.
>
> I had to remove some little plastic walls  to get the jack to fit in
> there, but I don't think it affected the palmtop's structural
> integrity.  The jack is located just to the left of the PCMCIA slot.
>
> It's not a regular size 1/8" jack, it's a 3/32", so you have to get an
> adapter for regular headphones/speaker/etc.  Also there are a couple of
> small problems: it probably needs a resistor soldered in, because
> without it, the sound from the headphones can be heard miles away.
> (Well, almost.  :)  Ideal would be potentiometer, but there's not really
> room.
> Another problem is that, if you get it too close to the PCMCIA slot, you
> could make it difficult to get your cards in.
>
> Anyway, as I said, I'll post some info to my site later on.
> --
> Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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> I am an HP 200LX 'Die Hard Fan' who will not give up my 200LX easily!!!
> But, as a Product Manager for HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific, I can=
 see the
> fast growing potential for Win CE palmtops in this region from the=
 day it
> was launched. Many countries in Asia Pacific is on our list of highly
> potential regions for sales of 360LX and 620LX.

  As one who is also involved in Marketing (not computers!) I see no
conflict in the above. Customers *want* something, you innovate to fill
that need. If simple operation, or plug and play handhelds are required,
then by all means..capitalise. I am certain that you sell the CE
comfortably perhaps even using your 200. Why?..you have certain
requirements; your customer..other needs.

> HP Win CE Palmtop has been very successful- far more successful than=
 200LX
> - so far and it's our intention to continue to be #1!

  Because there are more lots of people out there who do not *need*=
 the
versatility of the 200!

> The major question a mobile user has to ask himself is- what do I=
 need to
> do with a mobile PC?? The Majority need to use a handheld PC for e-mail, =

> web browsing, and working on documents and Excel files.

  Agreed! And let me add here emphatically (with flame suit on) that=
 I
*only* access my email with the 200 and the excessive quoting *really*=
 gets
to me. Please guys (can't remember seeing any gals doing it) my eyes=
 are
getting along in age and I do want to continue reading every piece of=
 mail
that I get on this list.

 Best regards,


"Those intent on prospering in life must surely do away with laziness"=
 -
 (Tiruvalluvar)

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Jens Siffring (frankendata) wrote:

> David,
> it looks like there is a problem with this webside:
> File Not found
> The requested URL /davidsa/hp/speaker.htm was not found on this
> server.


Yes... I created the page and all, but then I accidentally uploaded it
to a misspelled file name.  Just as I went to correct it, the server's
connection went down, so I couldn't get to it.

Anyway, it's fixed now.
--
Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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The pictures on the "speaker" page are kind of hard to see... they were
done by simply scanning in the side of the 200LX. :)
I'll post some clearer pictures.
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Thanks for the Info.. I had no idea it wasn't shareware, and if I was on
the road or something where a tiny web browser was needed really, I'd
probably get something like this. But I have a full sized computer or
three and this would not be cost productive to get and use WWW/LX..

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Gladly. It is produced by D&A Software, Inc. and I am a
principal in the company, and benefit from any sale it makes,
so you know what my bias is :-) ...

WWW/LX: This is the announcement I posted a long time ago,
circa October 1996 (!)

Post/LX: This is the additional client to do email and
newsgroups. Came out June 1997.

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Yes, bit 6 is cleared when the adapter is active.

Jorgen
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(to the list) Boy, he's really asking for it, huh?

Lawrence,

Check the digest for lots and lots of comments about this subject,
especially the 260LX subject.

Bob

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To Whom it may Concern:

        To unsubscribe from this LIST using the form on HPLX.shtml,=
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Text of message from: KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM,
             written: on Fri, 21 Nov 1997 at 12:49 PM
> Well friends,
> Some of you have heard me recently tell of the joys of IR printing with
> the drivers gotten off of the S.U.P.E.R. site, magnifying with "Magnify"
> and connecting to my Zip Drive with the TransDigital Card. Now I have a
> problem.  For some reason I cannot seem to print to my HP printer via IR
> as I was before I installed the TransPC Parallel card. Not sure why. I
> checked in setup and the IR is still selected as the method of printing.
> I removed the card and rebooted. I don't know what to try next.  If any
> of you know what I am talking about and use the above mentoned programs
> and drivers, perhaps you can help.

I have not been able to IR print since installing the "new and improved"
drivers.  When I have time, I'm going to try again with the older drivers.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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              Tonia Sams <hogrider@HOME.COM>
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Okay.. I have never paid any attention to the infra red stuff... till now.
I have a new notebook with an infra red port and want to be able to have
ACT for Windows and ACT for Palmtops talk to each other. How do I go about
it?
*
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On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:49:52 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:06:03 +0800
>From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>

>Even if the majority of us on this List is HP 200LX fans, the
>fact is that HP Win CE Palmtop has been very successful- far more
>successful than 200LX-

Jorgen,

Are you at liberty to release any quantitative comparisons of the HP DOS
and CE machines:
 * units sold to dealers, distributers, wholesalers, etc
 * units registered to end users
 * advertising budgets
 * retail placement (i.e. shelf space, display units, etc.)
 * editorial coverage, product reviews, etc

 * broken down on a monthly or quarterly basis?

I assume the CE devices are selling better now that the 300/320 are in the
$300 range instead of $600+ ;-)

-Peter



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     Hi!
     Really! You only want that! I don't know about that

     Helmut

     At hp in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-peterw (peterw@clark.net) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/21/97 9:49 AM


On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:49:52 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:06:03 +0800
>From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>

>Even if the majority of us on this List is HP 200LX fans, the
>fact is that HP Win CE Palmtop has been very successful- far more
>successful than 200LX-

Jorgen,

Are you at liberty to release any quantitative comparisons of the HP DOS
and CE machines:
 * units sold to dealers, distributers, wholesalers, etc
 * units registered to end users
 * advertising budgets
 * retail placement (i.e. shelf space, display units, etc.)
 * editorial coverage, product reviews, etc

 * broken down on a monthly or quarterly basis?

I assume the CE devices are selling better now that the 300/320 are in the
$300 range instead of $600+ ;-)

-Peter



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Subject:      Re: HP 620LX Colored Palmtop PC: GIVE ME A BREAK!
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There are those of us who don't necessarily subscribe to the Microsoft view
of the future of computing.  Perhaps there are enough of us that we might be
a market opportunity.


David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 21 November 1997 23:38
Subject: Re: HP 620LX Colored Palmtop PC: GIVE ME A BREAK!


>>Hi all folks,
>>
>>Thanks for Quinton bringing up-to-minute information to us.
>>
>>At the first glance, HP 620LX is bigger than Libretto but obviously it is
>>far away from Libretto in terms of performance.  What are the selling
>>points??  What is it going to replace?
>>
>>
>>Raymond Li
>
>As the Product Manager of HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific, I have some
>comments here! I don't think that you have actually seen the Toshiba
>Libretto side by side with HP 620LX- that's why you say it's bigger than
>the Libretto!!! Have you actually seen these 2 PC's side by side???????? I
>don't think so!!!!!!!!!  If you had, you have realized that HP 620LX is
>MUCH SMALLER than the Libretto and that the Libretto has less battery life
>and can't do the same thing as the HP 620LX can do in the long run!
>
>Please don't forget that MS plan to have 2 Operating Systems in the end- MS
>NT and Win CE. It's up to you to decide what you want to have- maybe Hp
>200LX or Win CE??? I take HP xxxxx!!!!!
>
>
>Jorgen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|jorgen@palmtop.net      |    Mobile Computing -> HP 200LX Palmtop PC     |
>|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
>|wallgren@newspage.com.sg|Unlike fine wine, bottled-up emotions do not    |
>|jorgen_wallgren@hp.com  |taste better with  time...                      |
>|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
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I own a 95lx and a 300lx both, my 95 appears to be dying and I'm going to
miss it - been looking for a shareware RPN scientific add in for the 300.
Any ideas?  I like lots of things about the 300 & even CE since I'm forced
into WIN 95 & NT4 at work.  Sure looks like DOS is down for the count
regardless of how good it might have become in time - but as a user of lots
of mismatched DOS stuff over the years I'm willing to give up a certain
amount of creative interface for the  ability to be up and running with new
programs and new generations of upgrades in a day instead of a month of
self discovery.  Try teaching yourself Autocad or learning the update
features for DOS without training as opposed to the WIN95, NT versions -
'course our company standard is WP (ok) and Lotus 123 (not Excel-bummer)...


Does anyone know of a HPCE user group/mail list like this one ?
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like lots of things about the 300 &amp; even CE since I'm forced into =
WIN 95 &amp; NT4 at work. &nbsp;Sure looks like DOS is down for the =
count regardless of how good it might have become in time - but as a =
user of lots of mismatched DOS stuff over the years I'm willing to give =
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and running with new programs and new generations of upgrades in a day =
instead of a month of self discovery. &nbsp;Try teaching yourself =
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opposed to the WIN95, NT versions - 'course our company standard is WP =
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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:06:24 -0800
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At 09:52 PM 11/21/97 EST, you wrote:
>I have not been able to IR print since installing the "new and improved"
>drivers.  When I have time, I'm going to try again with the older drivers.
>

Speaking of which, has anybody managed to hack the drivers (or written
another TSR perhaps) to get irda printing capability from DOS (it should
be just a SMOP  -- or is there some fundamental limitation of the 200LX
that makes it impossible to "redirect" DOS printing through the drivers).



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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> >Hi Jorgen,
> >
> >Thanks for comments from HP personnel.  Firstly, I am a HP fans indeed.  I
> >believe HP 200LX is still ahead other similar products on the market.
>
> So do I!!!
>
> As anyone can see from our web site (www.hp.com/handheld) we are doing
> something that is not common for HP- going out with a early press release....

Ahh...

> I am a HP 200LX 'Die Hard Fan' which will not give up my 200LX easily!!!
> But as a Product Manager for HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific, I can see the
> fast growing potential for Win CE palmtops in this region from the day it
> was launched. Many countries in Asia Pacific is on our list of highly
> potential regions for sales of 360LX and 620LX. Singapore and Hong Kong is
> 2 of them! Even if the majority of us on this List is HP 200LX fans, the
> fact is that HP Win CE Palmtop has been very successful- far more
> successful than 200LX- so far and it's our intention to continue to be #1!

What if HP had done this - and the equivalant of the rest of its 3X0lx campaign
- for the X00lx?  What if Psion and the other companies producing WinCE palmtops
had brought out machines to compete with the X00lx and ran the same aggressive
advertising campaigns?  What if the operating system and software for the X00lx
had been the newest baby of the largest - the dominating - software company in
the world with a media blitzing advertising campaign?  How many 200lx's would HP
have sold then?  HP _never_ marketed the X00lx series, let alone aggressivly?
What kind of meaning could that have given to the term No. 1?  And what kind of
target would it have given the 3X0lx?

Of course, I am not advancing a new idea - merely new to this discussion. :-)

<snip>

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> Thanks for Quinton bringing up-to-minute information to us.
Here, here!

> At the first glance, HP 620LX is bigger than Libretto
Is it really physically bigger?

> >                Size
> >                                7.8 x 4.1 x 1.4 in (19.8 x 10.4 x 3.6 cm)

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> My first wish
> is a GOOD Alarm Clock- I wish I could make one!!! But if anyone of you say
> that it's impossimple to do a good Alarm Clock using NKIT- I will try my
> best to prove you wrong!
Ah! So this is the test.exe!


> The problem is that I am not a programmer...
You program, ergo you are a programmer.

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> As the Product Manager of HP Palmtop PC's in Asia Pacific,
....
> MUCH SMALLER than the Libretto and that the Libretto has less battery life

So, what is the 620lx battery life?

Does HP have plans for a unix palmtop?

Do you take full responsibility for HP going the Win CE path? <BG>

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> What I mainly like with Win CE 2.0 is that MS will give now you some
> options: would you like to develop a program in Visual C++ 5.0, Visual
> Basic 5.0 or in Visual Java (it's coffe- right?). This gives the Win Ce
> platform a major advantage over 200LX since it's not that easy to make EXM
> programs (even if you use NKIT!!!) compare to VB....
So, is this programming *on the unit*? Or on a real computer? ie one that
you can compile on.

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Its been reported that only 100,000 WinCE units have sold, so far.  Given the fact that
there are multiple vendors and that new models are coming out, this is very low volume.


--- On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:49:11 +0500  Peter W <peterw@clark.net> wrote:


>Jorgen,
>
>Are you at liberty to release any quantitative comparisons of the HP DOS
>and CE machines:
> * units sold to dealers, distributers, wholesalers, etc
> * units registered to end users
> * advertising budgets
> * retail placement (i.e. shelf space, display units, etc.)
> * editorial coverage, product reviews, etc
>
> * broken down on a monthly or quarterly basis?
>
>I assume the CE devices are selling better now that the 300/320 are in the
>$300 range instead of $600+ ;-)

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Ages ago there was a discussion on using MATLAB on the palmtop, which led
me to use the freeware Minimat on the 'lx. But I've since moved back to
MATLAB 3.5 - more functions and perfect compatibility with the desktop - I
can take stats, nonlinear fitting and utility toolboxes with me into the
field. BUT....I'd really like to be able to use the graphics. Has anyone
had success with different drivers etc? Or do I have to keep exporting
data out to 123?
Cheers
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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:51:36 +0100
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> As anyone can see from our web site (www.hp.com/handheld) we are doing
> something that is not common for HP- going out with a early press =
release....

Yes, HP obviously changed the strategy. Up to now, HP produced great
stuff and did mediocre advertisement. Now they change to doing great
advertisement and producing mediocre stuff. That way, a few ten thousand
loyal customers are lost and a few hundred thousand new customers may
be won. However, I wonder how long HP can compete with the "low quality
for low prices" competition. I am sure they could have stayed the
market leader with high quality products and loyal customers
for many, many years.

I would assume HP will make better numbers than ever for a year or two
and then vanish from the market. Sad!

Even sadder: it is very difficult to build a good reputation and a solid
customer base and very easy to loose it.

> comfortably already with a 360LX since it has 16 shades of gray and it =
is
> much faster than 320LX.

It surprises me you (as a 200LX fan) say that. For me, it does not really
make a difference if I can do almost nothing or if I can do almost
nothing but faster and in more colours.

> screen of 360LX has 16 shades of gray, a Pocket PowerPoint out put will
> deliver your presentation in color.

And not even a way to fix a typo until you go home to your desktop
because PocketPP is crippleware.

Please don't take my words personally. I know you are trying your best
within HP!

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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> What I mainly like with Win CE 2.0 is that MS will give now you some
> options: would you like to develop a program in Visual C++ 5.0, Visual
> Basic 5.0 or in Visual Java (it's coffe- right?). This gives the Win Ce
> platform a major advantage over 200LX

Sorry Jorgen, but this is complete nonsense. I can develop for the
200LX in dozens of languages and most of them I can develop *on* the
200LX. There is (as far as I know) not a single language that can be
developed *on* a WinCE unit. All of them tie you to a desktop which
*must* use a MS OS and you *must* use a language provided by MS.

> LIFE WAS EASIER BEFORE MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!

My signature below that!!! <G>

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Some of you pointed the poor marketing of HP regarding palmtops like the
200LX, to be compared with aggressive
advertising from competitors (especially Psion). I agree 100%.

I worked for HP as a process engineering technician for 15 month,
temporary contract, at the european distribution center, in
France. Quiet a Dibert experience, but many good memories too. My
feeling there was that the LX serie was just an *internal*
use product: all technicians and executives get one as a standard
working tool. You could tell how long someone had been in
HP just by looking its LX (95, 100 or 200...)

We all know the potential of this toy. Some (I can easely count a ten)
of my friends are just dying when they see me getting out
my 200LX: they work in the fields as hardware and software
technicians/engineers, mathematics, electronics, and so on... many
of these peoples knew HP calculator from school but never heard of these
palmtops. They would gladly buy one, the only
problem being that it is now TOO LATE considering the price of these DOS
toys  in a world of Win soft (the dark side of the
force just won at the end).

Funny -or sad, in fact- how HP seems to have a marketing problem with
domestic users and such potentialy big volumes selling
products. Here in France very few people know HP. Many thinks that HP
brand is a pale copy of Packard-Bell, only more
expensive. And here comes HP, as if "the war was already won". HP
encoutered here in France the same marketing problem
with its Pavillion PC series (it's think it's getting better kow).

I definitely have the feeling that all of us LX users are just dinosaurs
(?). Hard boiled ones, but extincting species anyway. I
think the last trial HP took in this field of open architecture palmtops
was with the 700LX: a paltop to be used with a Nokia
cellular for email and websurfing. I wish I could give it a try. Now HP
is more and more "MS wise".

Has a former HP employee, I would be glad to have Jorgen's point of view
about this. More facts and examples about my
point of view (poor HP marketing towards big selling volumes products -
especially LX, and the MS wise turn) if any of you
shows interest.

To all of you please excuse the syntax and mispelling. From Paris,
France,

JB

PS: all this doesn't apply to printer, a field in wich HP is doing very
well, literaly making the market.

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On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Helmut Grossinger wrote:

He>      Really! You only want that! I don't know about that
He>
He> I assume the CE devices are selling better now that the 300/320 are =
in the
He> $300 range instead of $600+ ;-)

Oh...I agree - that price reduction will definitely have an impact on
the demand curve for the hpc's. If they (hp) post similar price
reductions for the dos machine we'll need an astronomer to plot the
sales graphs... <g>

BTW: Mark me down for three... :-)

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Well, its Saturday and i'm in Vegas, so I must have survived Comdex for another year. There were some interesting things shown relative to palmtops, especially affecting my company. so I'll relay those.

We were demonstrating our VGA card for palmtops with both WinCE and Newton units on display. I also had my HP200LX in plain view, so I could get as many different people to drop by as possible.

First, some general stuff. In  order of fanaticism, I'd have to rank the newton people at the top of the  list. We had users come to the booth to tell us about  how they'd taken our product to local tradeshows and done impromptu demos! Sorta the same feeling as you get from a Mac user.

Those few 200LXers that stopped by were engineer types that had a very specific app and would not give up their 200's for anything. Not evangelical, but I'd say quitely determined - the Panasonic guy who used his to set up and troubleshoot video walls comes to mind.

The WinCE people appear to be a pretty fickle bunch. They seemed to have purchased one without giving much thought to it (marketing hype, probably) and were looking for something to make it useful. When something better comes  along,  they'll be gone. I understand that v1 sales started strong and  tailed off dramatically - a sign of poor word of mouth....

BTW, I had a fair number of Pilot users who were hoping my VGA card would connect via their serial port :-) and not a single  Psion user that I know of.

The WinCE hardware market is by far the most dynamic, with 7+ manufacturers on track for a new generation every 6 months. Our own market window has been truncated by NEC's and LG's decision to absorb the external VGA out capability into their products. Given the way everybody has widenned their screen to match HP within one generation, it won't be long. In my opinion, though, they are all headed in the wrong direction with the latest NEC machine as big as a Newton keyboard. Its definitely not a pocket device any more. Actually, it is a logical extension, given Microsoft's tendency to make their software biigger and fatter with every generation.

As to Andreas's comments about pPowerPoint being crippleware - depends. If you make your own presentations, then you are right. My impression, though, is that the person who makes the presentation is usually not the presenter. We had many people come to the booth who liked pPP precisely because the slides could not be altered - ensuring a consistent message from all sales people.

To cap off, I think there will always be room for the 200 because of the small size, the ease of developing quicky apps, and because of the need of some of us to know in detail what's going on in our computers. I just wish nettamer couldbe set up as easily for email as WinCE. I've never been able to do it, but it only took 2 minutes on THIS WinCE machine!! (Yes, I use what  works and thhat's thee HP200 for everything but email).

rick

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sorry, i forgot to change the subject on my other posting to what's really about - comdex.

rick

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On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Jean-Baptiste Maillet <jmaillet@CLUB-INTERNET.FR> =
wrote:

jm> I definitely have the feeling that all of us LX users are just =
dinosaurs
jm> (?). Hard boiled ones, but extincting species anyway.

Very true I think but extinct? Not really - at least not yet.

jm> Has a former HP employee, I would be glad to have Jorgen's point of =
view
jm> about this. More facts and examples about my
jm> point of view (poor HP marketing towards big selling volumes products =
-
jm> especially LX, and the MS wise turn) if any of you
jm> shows interest.

I for one would be very interested in any more information or comments
that you are able to share with us. Speaking for myself, I found that
your comments were well written and unbiased.

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I started using personal productivity apps on my desktop and laptops =
years ago.  Have tried ACT, Goldmine, Sched+, and Lotus Organizer.  I =
found that they all had one problem:  I could not get to the information =
I needed quickly enough.  For example, I had been making cold sales =
calls in the AM, then went to doing technical stuff in the PM, one of =
those people I left a message for in the AM would call back.  It seemed =
that it always took inordinate amounts of time to open the application, =
work through the menus, type in the name, and finally get to the =
person's record.  Then I could read the record to find out where I was =
with this client.

With the 200LX, I press one key and its on, another key and I'm in the =
phone database, a few more keys of the name, and one key for the notes =
and I'm there.  All in the space of about 6-10 seconds.  Really great.  =
Those apps are downright elegant in their simplicity and functionality!

From what I have seen of the WinCE 1.0 machines, they have similar =
problems to those I described.  Mostly because one has to do lots of =
tap-tap-ing on the screen and pulling down menus to get what you want.  =
I haven't seen the WinCE2.0 machines and haven't used the PalmPilot.  I =
am wondering if they have the problems I have described.  Has the user =
interface been optimized to provide quick entry to important =
functionality? =20
Thanks,

Bill Rodgers
Morgan Stanley
NYC

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I have for sale the following:

HP 200 LX

User's Guide for the HP 200 LX

Brand new Serial Cable for HP 200 LX

14.4 Practical Peripherials external Pocket Modem w/ software ,ac adapter
,battery pack ,  Quicklink II (win&dos), leather case,and manuals (this is
a very small and portable unit)

Leather case for the HP200LX

Asking $375 plus shipping

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Rick Kozak wrote:

> sorry, i forgot to change the subject on my other posting to what's really about - comdex.


So how many people on this list went to Comdex in Las Vegas this year?  Anybody?  I live right
there so it's easy for me.  But how about anybody else?
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Bill Rodgers wrote:

> With the 200LX, I press one key and its on, another key and I'm in the phone database, a few more keys of the name, and one key for the notes and I'm there.  All in the space of about 6-10 seconds.  Really great.  Those apps are downright elegant in their simplicity and functionality!


I just saw an ad for the Sharp Color Mobilon, and one of the features it had prominently mentioned was "Easy access application keys along the top row."  What innovators!  Of course, I could think of a DIFFERENT palmtop computer that had application keys about six years before the Sharp Color Mobilon... but I won't mention it... :)
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HP200LX 2MB MODEL

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> From: skanman <skanman@mci2000.com>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: FS:  HP200LX + ACCS.
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 1997 1:32 PM
>
> I have for sale the following:
>
> HP 200 LX
>
> User's Guide for the HP 200 LX
>
> Brand new Serial Cable for HP 200 LX
>
> 14.4 Practical Peripherials external Pocket Modem w/ software ,ac adapter
> ,battery pack ,  Quicklink II (win&dos), leather case,and manuals (this
is
> a very small and portable unit)
>
> Leather case for the HP200LX
>
> Asking $375 plus shipping
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Thanks to everyone who has posted information on Agenda. =20
I spent yesterday playing with the program and reading the texts that
Michael Stocker has been circulating.  This is by far the best
software I have come across recently and I am keen to get up and
running with it ASAP.

To quote Michael's posting a couple of days ago:
>This is a very complex program and it's hard to get a handle on=20
>whether or not this software will provide some value to various users=20
>on the list.

I wonder if any of you experienced Agenda buffs could share the
templates of your favourite Planner.ag files? =20

=461:   You can copy (export) the complete structure of the current
Agenda file to a new Agenda file.  The new Agenda file contains the
category hierarchy, views, macros, conditions, and actions of the
original file, but no items or assignments.

There are obviously efficient ways of setting up views and categories
that won't choke the 200LX and sharing these templates would be a
great starting point to customise Agenda for my own peculiar
circumstances.

If anyone is keen on helping me out with this one please post to me
direct - shaun.g@xtra.co.nz

Regards

Shaun Gilbert

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Does anybody know what the maximum speed the 200LX can handle on an
external modem is?  Does it change for a 2x 200LX?  I know that  PCMCIA
modem includes a 16550 UART, but the built in UART shows up as an 8250,
which can't be good for communication speed with an external modem...

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Greetings list!  I've been lurking here for about a month and bought
a HP200LX several weeks ago.  I've enjoyed most of the exchanges, but
really appreciated some of Jean-Baptiste's comments and wanted to
respond.

On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Jean-Baptiste Maillet wrote:

> use product: all technicians and executives get one as a standard
> working tool.

This reminds me of my first job after grad school.  It was at an
in vitro diagnostic manufacturer and R&D lab.  They issued HP11C's
to every new hire.  I declined since I already had one!  :)


> We all know the potential of this toy. Some (I can easely count a ten)
> of my friends are just dying when they see me getting out
> my 200LX: they work in the fields as hardware and software
> technicians/engineers, mathematics, electronics, and so on... many
> of these peoples knew HP calculator from school but never heard of these
> palmtops. They would gladly buy one, the only
> problem being that it is now TOO LATE considering the price of these DOS
> toys  in a world of Win soft (the dark side of the
> force just won at the end).

Hmmm.  I don't think it's too late.  I just bought my 200LX a few
weeks ago.  I had previously bought a Compaq C140 and was reading
comp.sys.handhelds to try and resolve some of its inadequacies.  In
the process I learned about the 200LX.  It took me about two days to
decide to get one.  I put the C140 down that same day and sold it
shortly after.

My guess on the marketing of DOSLX's?  When they first came out they
were pretty pricy.  This significantly limited the market.  By the
time the price had come down to a widely acceptable level, DOS systems
had been pretty well replaced with Windows.  I guess what I'm trying
to say, I don't think it was an HP decision to hold back the DOSLX in
any way.  It's just that other factors limited the market in one way
or another.  If the market is known to be limited for some valid
reasons, is there any point in pumping large quantities of advertising
revenue into it?


> I definitely have the feeling that all of us LX users are just dinosaurs
> (?). Hard boiled ones, but extincting species anyway.

Hah!  I *loved* this.  :)  In bicycling circles there is a term for a
person who resists new technology that has questionable advantage over
the old.  That term is: retrogrouch.  I happily consider myself a DOS
retrogrouch.

My work computer is a Compaq pentium with 32 MB running Windows 3.1.
I use it mainly for word processing with occasional web, acrobat, and
spreadsheet use.  Typically it crashes several times a day.  I just
bought a Compaq Presario for my family.  In limited use while setting
it up, I found I had to reboot it occasionally to get it to work
properly.  My desk has (and will continue to have!) a 286 clone on it.

In the same way, my new 200LX is great!  DOS gives me tremendous
control over the tasks I choose to perform.  It may take some work to
get it set up properly, but once done it is considerably faster than
any Windows applications.  It is also more capable.

> To all of you please excuse the syntax and mispelling. From Paris,
> France,

Your writing was entirely clear and demonstrated the same kind
of thinking.  No apology needed.

Thanks JB and list for the rewarding discussions.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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After much deliberation, I opened up my 4MB 200 to fix an unsprung slot door.
I had discovered that the spring which holds the door closed actually broke,
and a small piece of wire was lurking about in my palmtop!  I removed the
offending wire, and pulled the last coil of the spring straight again, then
replaced the spring and door.  Good as new!  By the way, I was worried that any
tool I used to pry apart the front part of the unit would scar the finish.  I
wound up using an old ATM card that had a bad stripe, and it worked perfect.
It's thin profile slips in the crack easy, and once it's in, simply twist the
card until it feels like the card's gonna snap.  That's about how much force it
took to break apart the case the first time, probably because of those two pins
in front.  Thank goodness HP didn't ultrasonic weld the LX's like they did a
few calculators... :)

Bill

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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I also live there and attend COMDEX every year.
Its my most awaited event. (:-D

Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:48:02, David Sargeant wrote:

> So how many people on this list went to Comdex in Las Vegas this year?
> Anybody?  I live right there so it's easy for me.
> But how about anybody else?





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Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> David! You live in Las Vegas?
>
> So do I! Maybe we can meet up some time. (:-D


Sure!  Wow, I didn't know anybody else on the list lived around here.  (I
actually live in Boulder City.)  Hmmm... two palmtop users... we're halfway
to a users' group!  :)
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Global Search on the SUPER site should do that for you. It shows the last
file opened by the apps (therefore the next) and allows you to search all
for text strings

BB



>I use the Application Manager in the "list" mode most of the time.  I
>would like to see what database or phone list is "pending" or will open
>when I re-start an application.  Is it possible for someone blessed with
>the skills and patience, to write a small program, perhaps a TSR that
>will change the Comments field of the Database and (or) Phone
>application entry to show which file will open when these applications
>are started?
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You wrote:

>I have also come across a text file of an old article describing how to =
install Agenda 2.0 on a HP 95LX.
>
>Much of the info also applies to 100/200LX's.
>
>I am planning to also send a copy of this to all who have requested a =
copy of the article describing Agenda's
>functionality, about which I posted to the list earlier today.
>
>If you have not requested a copy of the above article and would like a =
copy of the installation instructions,
>e-mail me directly by Wednesday (11/19).

Hi Michael.
Didn't read your message in time/ Any chance of emailing "me too" ???

Thanks
Malcolm

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i know that there is an easy answer, but i can't fugure out what it is.

when i try to run the install program on disk1 on my desktop, i get a "not
enough memory to load program" type of message. doesn't matter if i run from
windoze 3.11 or exit windoze completely to the dos prompt.

what simple, basic, rule have i stupidly violated?

thanx,

lynn m. cavendish

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David Hart reported the same problem with Win95.

Several of us have installed in Win95 w/o problem.

Maybe if you create a PIF for install you may be able to work around this problem?

Also, did you create 720kb or 1.44mb formatted install diskettes?

The Lotus Agenda disk images will not map to 1.44 diskettes properly.  If so, this may
be your problem.

--- On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:20:47 -0500  "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> wrote:

>i know that there is an easy answer, but i can't fugure out what it is.
>
>when i try to run the install program on disk1 on my desktop, i get a "not
>enough memory to load program" type of message. doesn't matter if i run from
>windoze 3.11 or exit windoze completely to the dos prompt.
>
>what simple, basic, rule have i stupidly violated?
>
>thanx,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
>
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           11/22/97 4:44:17 PM EST
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As best as I can tell, Lotus Agenda being offered as download from the Lotus ftp site
is version 2.

Version 2b was offered later as maintenance upgrade to fix some operational problems.

The image of the upgrade disk is available from the same site as file ag_disk.zip.

I installed the upgrade in my 200LX and have seen no problems.  The program is actually
a little smaller and there is no degradation in performance.  It might even be
marginally faster (<5%), if at all.
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           11/22/97 5:19:20 PM EST
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Corrction, the upgrade disk image file's name is ag_upb.zip (not ag_disk.zip).

--- On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:24:14 -0500  mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:

>As best as I can tell, Lotus Agenda being offered as download from the Lotus ftp site
>is version 2.
>
>Version 2b was offered later as maintenance upgrade to fix some operational problems.
>
>The image of the upgrade disk is available from the same site as file ag_disk.zip.
>
>I installed the upgrade in my 200LX and have seen no problems.  The program is
actually
>a little smaller and there is no degradation in performance.  It might even be
>marginally faster (<5%), if at all.
>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           11/22/97 5:19:20 PM EST
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There are two Lotus Agenda upgrade files located at the Lotus ftp site.

   ag_upb.zip  Contains an image file of the 7.20kb Lotus Agenda 2b upgrade diskette.

  checker.exe  Is a self-extracting archive of the files contained in the 2b upgrade disks.
               These files need to be copied to 2 diskettes.  If you run INSTALL.BAT it
               will tell you which files should be copied onto which diskette.

Note -- These are both the same Lotus Agenda upgrade, version 2b.
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Is anyone still having problems installing Lotus Agenda?
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           11/22/97 7:23:48 PM EST
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The following is a Lotus tech file on installing DOS programs in Win95.

Hopefully, this approach will help those of you who are having problems installing Lotus Agenda in Win95
before transferring the files over to your LX.
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/22/97 7:31:59 PM EST
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TITLE:               How to Install Windows 3.1 Apps and DOS Apps in Windows 95
PRODUCT AREA:        All Lotus Products, Operating System Information
PRODUCT RELEASE:     Windows 95
CATEGORY:            Workstation/Desktop \ Install/Load/Run \ Issues Installing Product
NUMBER:              127776
LAST UPDATE:         02/28/97 05:10:03 AM
CIRCULATION:         Public - Faxable

PROBLEM:

How can a Windows 3.1-based or MS-DOS-based application be installed in
Windows 95?

SOLUTION:

NOTE:  The information below is based wholly or in part on material found
in the Microsoft Resource Kit on the Microsoft TechNet CD.

To install Windows 3.1-based applications and MS-DOS-based applications in
Windows 95, perform the following steps:

  1. Insert the installation disk or compact disc (CD-ROM) for the
     application to be installed in the appropriate drive (for example, A
     or B).

  2. Click the Start button on the Windows 95 Taskbar.

  3. Select Settings.

  4. Select Control Panel.

  5. Double-click the Add/Remove Programs icon.

  6. Click the Install button.

  7. Click the Next button (assuming the diskette or CD-ROM has already
     been inserted in the appropriate drive as described in step #1 above).

  8. Click the Finish button when the appropriate .EXE file has been
     detected (for example, A:\INSTALL.EXE).

  9. Complete the installation for the application as usual.

This wizard leads you through the steps to install the application on your
computer.  When you install MS-DOS-based applications, the wizard lets you
choose an icon for the application.  It copies information about the
application from the APPS.INF file to the applications .PIF file.  In
Windows 95, .PIF files work in the same way as link (.LNK) files under
Windows 3.1.  Therefore, when you copy an MS-DOS-based application, you
really copy the .PIF file, not an .LNK file.

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Subject:      Re: New Palmtops Built In Apps Speed

Everything is now acccessible  from the START button. It still takes 4 clicks (with little or no wait between) to get to contacts if its not running. Click in the find box, type the partial name, hit enter. click on the notes button and then click on the notes area to edit the note. You can then start typing, or click on the pen icon for handwritten notes. Overall, its way slower than the three buttons + name required by the 200.

rick

   >>From what I have seen of the WinCE 1.0 machines, they have similar
   >problems to those I described.  Mostly because one has to do lots of
   >tap-tap-ing on the screen and pulling down menus to get what you want.
   >I haven't seen the WinCE2.0 machines and haven't used the PalmPilot.  I
   >am wondering if they have the problems I have described.  Has the user
   >interface been optimized to provide quick entry to important
   >functionality?
   >Thanks,
   >
   >Bill Rodgers
   >Morgan Stanley
   >NYC
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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:57:29 -0500
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>what simple, basic, rule have i stupidly violated?

Heaven knows - it is running smoothly on my Pentium Pro computer with
Windows 95 in MS-DOS mode. I have loaded DOS high and UMB but not (on
this computer loaded himem or emm386 as I after the purchase continued
using my trusty 486 and just used the PP for back the first 6 month!)

How much memory do you have left before loading Agenda? I have 526K
(hmm, I must start optimizing this as the 486 has around 600K). Certain
drivers consume a lot of memory.

Jorgen
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The 8056 does not have the FIFO buffers and can to my best recollection m=
ax
run 14400 (19200). However for serial transfer of data computer to comput=
er
I use 115200 baud without problems (but I suppose that is 98% oneway with=

the last 25 being the acknowledgement???)

Jorgen
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>In bicycling circles there is a term for a person who resists new
>technology that has questionable advantage over the old.  That term is:
>retrogrouch.  I happily consider myself a DOS retrogrouch.

You could say that. But is Windows (any kind) "new technology"? =

NO!!!

In my view Windows is "only" what brought computing to the masses (which
everybody indirectly benefit from in the form of lower prices) as any
birdbrain apparently can win'doze. With DOS (and UNIX) one has to be
capable of learning commands by heart and, to be a poweruser, also be
capable of *combining* a number of commands. =


Ýbefore you start the flamethrowers: no, I am not trying to be arrogant;
one has to have a more than casual interest in computing to want to do
this. We *are* probably nuts, though in my case a *happy* nut¨.

No wonder, it is engineering types that love the Ý12¨00-LX.

Jorgen
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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:22:21 -0500
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: installing agenda
Comments: To: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com

thanks for the quick response.

i was, of course, trying to use 1.4meg disks.  switching to 720's fixed me
right up, and the deed is not done!  agenda is running on my desk top.
 shortly, it will be on my 200lx where it belongs.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:06:24 -0500
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As a person who used to use Agenda extensively back when it was a new
product, I thought I'd share what I found Agenda useful for and what I fi=
nd
works better on the HP200.

At the time I was using Agenda, I was managing a large construction
project. I used the program to catalogue all project correspondence and
track open issues. SInce Agenda is basically a bulleted list data base, i=
t
was easy to assign many attributes to each bullet andf to rearrange them =
in
any fashion for reporting. This was great for publishing weekly project
status reports and generally keeping things on track. Basically, I used
Agenda instead of any project management software -- and also used it to
build a history of each attribute of the project.

On my single speed HP200, I have found Agenda to be too slow to be real
useful. Presently, I use the built in PIM for appointments and for to-do'=
s
that have to take place on a certain day and I use PC-Outline for trackin=
g
all the other data, like task lists, meeting notes etc. PC-Outling runs i=
n
a DOS window with out MaxDOS and it can have several outlines open at onc=
e.
Reading the manual which comes with the registered version (shareware
available on www.shareware.com), I just discovered that you can add
attributes to an entry and then sort - makes the program even more useful=
=2E

If you are using Agenda, be sure to run ag_chk daily and be careful if yo=
ur
file gets big. Try to get docs as well since there are many ways to do
things - it can get confusing.

Phil Godden

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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:18:42 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP marketing (and other thoughts--LONG)
Comments: To: JDybdahl@compuserve.com

I am an AutoCAD instructor in the adult ed program as well as the local
community college.   I am very well versed with DOS, Win 3.1 and 95 and also
use UNIX.   I have used my 200LX faithfully and constantly for the past two
years and I have been reading the diverse comments on the need and usefulness
of the Windows environment in this forum.

I am the "engineering" sort.  I think graphically and analytically and do
enjoy the "control" that DOS gives me.

HOWEVER, I have used AutoCAD on all platforms and have found that I can work
faster with the bells and whistles that the Windows environment has.   Some
of us are creatures of habit...I was with 95...but we should try to work in
the manner that is best for us and look for the programs that can give each
of us the handling that we desire.

I have NO intention of switching to a CE palmtop.   I have no problems with
the LX except it would be nice to be able to AutoCAD on it.   So be it.   Let
us just fight to keep the LX a marketable tool for all of us who enjoy it.

Peace.

Cathy Schlim

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Date:         Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:54:48 +0800
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From:         Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 <kurtv@IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU>
Subject:      Software Carousel and Win 3.0
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G'day,
        I was hoping to use Software Carousel to quickly switch to Win
3.0. Unfortunately Win 3.0 seems to disable SC. Does anyone know if it is
possible to use Sc with Win 3.0?

Cheers,
Kurt

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Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 1997 21:59:06 -0800
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I know nothing about this company other than seeing their ad in Circuit
Cellar Ink
and visiting their website at http://www.twotech.com/computer.html but the
specs
aren't that different (hardware wise) from the 200LX and they do custom
engineering.  I suspect they could build something alot like a 200LX for=
 close
to the same price...

                    100% PC Compatibility in a Rugged Hand-Held=20
                    Runs MS-DOS=AE and Virtually Any PC Program=20
                    PCMCIA Ver. I, Type I or II PC card slot
                    Fully PC-Compatible Serial Port =97 Runs Standard PC
                    Communications Software at up to 115K bps=20
                    Optional second RS-232 Port through built-in 9 pin mini
                    DIN
                    Line (PCL-50) or Battery (PCL-1200) powered
                    286-Class Performance
                    All PC Keyboard Functions in a Compact Keypad=20
                    CGA Monochrome Video with Virtual Screen=20
                    Supertwist Liquid Crystal Display Screen with Optional
                    Backlighting (16 rows of 24 characters, 192 by 128 pixel
                    graphics)=20
                    Lithium Battery backed Real Time Clock
                    Membrane or optional Elastomeric Keypad=20
                    45, 32, 30, 20, or 15 Keys, Custom Keypad Layouts=20
                    Rugged Cycolac=AE ABS Case=20
                    Can Be Customized to Your Specifications=20
                    One Year Warranty=20

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
johnws@ix.netcom.com
................... Si fallatis officium, quaestor infinitius eat se
quicquam scire de factis vestris.

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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what the maximum speed the 200LX can handle on an
> external modem is?  Does it change for a 2x 200LX?  I know that  PCMCIA
> modem includes a 16550 UART, but the built in UART shows up as an 8250,
> which can't be good for communication speed with an external modem...
>
> --
I wouldn't take that very seriously. I have a new motherboard in the
computer
I am using to write this. It has two built-in com ports and MSD says
that these
use 8250's. I have also seen this same effect on other computer's com
portsI
don't know what MSD is looking for but I suppose that if it does
not get some signature that says 16450 or 16550, it defaults to 8250.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:22:34 -0800
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anborg wrote:

> I wouldn't take that very seriously. I have a new motherboard in the
> computer I am using to write this. It has two built-in com ports and MSD
> says
> that these use 8250's. I have also seen this same effect on other
> computer's com
> portsI don't know what MSD is looking for but I suppose that if it does
> not get some signature that says 16450 or 16550, it defaults to 8250.


What version of MSD are you running?  The version that came with 6.22 didn't
work on my 200LX, so I had to use the version that came with 5.0.  It was
very interesting: COM1 showed up as an 8250.  COM2 showed up as a 16550 when
I had my PCMCIA modem in, but then as soon as I popped it out, the display
for COM2 disappeared.  Popping it back in brought it back up again.  I didn't
know Microsoft's diagnostics were good enough to do real-time status
displays.  :)

I guess the only question this matters for is, should it be possible to run
an external 33.6 modem at full speed on a double-speed 200LX?  Or will it max
out at around 19.2?
--
Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> anborg wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't take that very seriously. I have a new motherboard in the
> > computer I am using to write this. It has two built-in com ports and MSD
> > says
> > that these use 8250's. I have also seen this same effect on other
> > computer's com
> > portsI don't know what MSD is looking for but I suppose that if it does
> > not get some signature that says 16450 or 16550, it defaults to 8250.
>
> What version of MSD are you running?  The version that came with 6.22 didn't
> work on my 200LX, so I had to use the version that came with 5.0.  It was
> very interesting: COM1 showed up as an 8250.  COM2 showed up as a 16550 when
> I had my PCMCIA modem in, but then as soon as I popped it out, the display
> for COM2 disappeared.  Popping it back in brought it back up again.  I didn't
> know Microsoft's diagnostics were good enough to do real-time status
> displays.  :)
>
> I guess the only question this matters for is, should it be possible to run

> an external 33.6 modem at full speed on a double-speed 200LX?  Or will it max
> out at around 19.2?
> --

No, I don't have MSD on my HP200LX. The MSD that I have is what came
with MS-DOS 6.21. We all remember when Microsoft refused to pay for
using Stacker and the court said, "no pay, no use". DOS 6.21 is the
outcome of that little entertainment. It is DOS 6.20 with the "Stacker"
removed.

I don't take this 8250 problem very seriously. I have seen speeds up to
50K plus between two computers across the room. Of course, this is a
direct line and if you have an external modem, there could be some
problems. I would say, try it and see if it works for you.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Yesterday I went to a "Parking Lot Sale" at Educalc, which is not far from where I live. I was surprised to hear that they just made public the fact that they will no longer be carrying Hewlett Packard products. If anyone is interested, they still have a few little goodies that they are selling at 20% off. However, it is slim pickins' because much is gone already.  For those of you that don't know, Educalc has been a source for calculators as well as 95, 100 & 200lx's and periferals for years. Their toll free number is 800 677-7001.
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Ken A. Moore wrote:

> Yesterday I went to a "Parking Lot Sale" at Educalc, which is not far from where I live. I was surprised to hear that they just made public the fact that they will no longer be carrying Hewlett Packard products. If anyone is interested, they still have a few little

Not too much of a loss.  They were too expensive.  And they didn't seem to care about updating their web site.
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>> Yesterday I went to a "Parking Lot Sale" at Educalc, which is not far
from where I live. I was surprised to hear that they just made public the
fact that they will no longer be carrying Hewlett Packard products. If
anyone is interested, they still have a few little
>
>Not too much of a loss.  They were too expensive.  And they didn't seem to
care about updating their web site.


Maybe... but they did carry lots of oddball stuff that wasn't available
through any other channels, and they were the authorized distributor for
the HP200LX "repair" kit, which had the feet, batt. cover, and IR cover in
it.  I'm going to miss 'em...

Bill

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-> I know nothing about this company other than seeing their ad in
-> Circuit Cellar Ink
-> and visiting their website at http://www.twotech.com/computer.html
-> but the specs
-> aren't that different (hardware wise) from the 200LX and they do
-> custom engineering.  I suspect they could build something alot like a
-> 200LX for= close to the same price...
->
->                   100% PC Compatibility in a Rugged Hand-Held=20
->                   Runs MS-DOS=AE and Virtually Any PC Program=20

        This post, along with a flurry of other recent posts, has me
confused.  The implication is that the 200LX is dead.  Is it?  It was my
understanding that HP still manufactures and sells 200LXs.  Is this not
so?  I only bought mine about 4 weeks ago, but it was a double speed 8
meg refurbished unit from Thaddeus.  I've used a 100LX since 1993 and
I'd hate to think we've come to the end of the road for this great
product.
Jim

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I believe that the issues are:

  1) Once by HP 200LX wears out, breaks, or whatever, what can I replace it with
     2-3 years down the road?

  2) I need an upgrade path for my 200LX to a more powerful DOS based palmtop (VGA
     display, 386->486 performance, ..., etc.).

--- On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:02:00 -0500  PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:

>        This post, along with a flurry of other recent posts, has me
>confused.  The implication is that the 200LX is dead.  Is it?  It was my
>understanding that HP still manufactures and sells 200LXs.  Is this not
>so?  I only bought mine about 4 weeks ago, but it was a double speed 8
>meg refurbished unit from Thaddeus.  I've used a 100LX since 1993 and
>I'd hate to think we've come to the end of the road for this great
>product.
>Jim

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At 02:02 PM 11/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>-> I know nothing about this company other than seeing their ad in
>-> Circuit Cellar Ink
>-> and visiting their website at http://www.twotech.com/computer.html
>-> but the specs
>
>        This post, along with a flurry of other recent posts, has me
>confused.  The implication is that the 200LX is dead.  Is it?  It was my
>understanding that HP still manufactures and sells 200LXs.  Is this not

I posted mostly in response to a recent thread that was considering
alternative
sources of 200LX like machines...  I have no idea what HP plans for the
200LX, they don't tell me (I just work on compilers for the 700/800 HP-UX
computer line).  I did think it was interesting that other than the form
factor, the less capable display, and obviously no built in HP apps, that
they had something with
essentially the same specs at essentially the same price.

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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Hi everyone,

I'm looking for advice. What would you do? download Lotus Agenda for
free and install on the 200LX or purchase a copy of Info Select for the
HP200LX from Micro Logic? I'd be really interested to receive your
thoughts.

I have to make that decision as in my job as a Product Developer,
althogh the mobility of the HP200Lx is great, I have a crazy amount of
packets of info hitting me every day from two e-mail systems, phone and
fax etc and I feel need a better way of coping with it than the built -
in HP200LX functions (calender, to - do, database, notebook etc). I do
have global search from SUPER running but this doesn't of course bring
up all relevant info from a keyword search simultaneously in the way
that Agenda and IS would - rather you have to launch each application
one at a time.

My limited understanding of the pros and cons of the two options are as
follows:-

FOR/AGAINST AGENDA
It's free!
It's apparently very powerful
I've heard It's hard to learn. I downloaded it onto my PC yesterday for
evaluation prior to loading on the HP200LX but without the manuals I'm
finding it hard to get started.
I've heard it's slow on the HP200LX

FOR/AGAINST INFO SELECT
Have to purchase
Very powerful
Easy to learn?
Acts as a free - form database. Can enter info in many different views.
User friendly notes pop up after searches

I guess I'm leaning towards Info Select but as I said, any views would
be of great interest to me.

(Sorry to stray off the list topic, but dare I say there is another
option for me which is to get a WinCe Palmtop running (the dreaded
Microsoft) Pocket Outlook. My limited understanding of Outlook is that
you search on key word(s) and you get all relevant notes and files. For
example, the new Sharp Mobilon palmtop with colour screen running off AA
batteries looks great apart from the price at around $900!).

Thanks

Dr Peter Maddern
Harassed Product Developer
North Wales
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Bill Childers wrote:
>Maybe... but they did carry lots of oddball stuff that wasn't available

> through any other channels, and they were the authorized distributor for
> the HP200LX "repair" kit, which had the feet, batt. cover, and IR cover in
> it.  I'm going to miss 'em...


Okay, maybe I was a little too harsh on them.  Anybody know of any other places
that repair kit is available?
I remember the "super palmtop" Educalc had.  I ordered one, but I should've
paid more attention to the size.  It was HUGE!  I had to return it.  So maybe
I'm still carrying a grudge... :)
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Sun, 23 Nov 97 12:37:05, Bill Childers wrote:

> Maybe... but they did carry lots of oddball stuff that wasn't available
> through any other channels, and they were the authorized distributor for
> the HP200LX "repair" kit, which had the feet, batt. cover, and IR cover
> in it.  I'm going to miss 'em...

I'm also going to miss 'em. Thats where I purchased my 100LX.
The very one and the same.

First ACE and now..... Who'll be next. (:-(



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I haven't looked lately, but Educalc had been selling 2 different P.C.
compatible palmtops. I thought one had a 286 CPU. It even had M.S. Works
hardcoded into it so it would come on without a load time. I am
wondering if I would have been better off with it than my 200 LX. When I
bought my current (2nd) 200LX last summer I could have purchased the
Educalc 'clone' unit for the same price. Like I say, I am not sure if
EduCalc still has it in their catalog.

                Richard Bueker



mdstockr wrote:
>
> I believe that the issues are:
>
>   1) Once by HP 200LX wears out, breaks, or whatever, what can I replace it with
>      2-3 years down the road?
>
>   2) I need an upgrade path for my 200LX to a more powerful DOS based palmtop (VGA
>      display, 386->486 performance, ..., etc.).
>
> --- On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:02:00 -0500  PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:
>
> >        This post, along with a flurry of other recent posts, has me
> >confused.  The implication is that the 200LX is dead.  Is it?  It was my
> >understanding that HP still manufactures and sells 200LXs.  Is this not
> >so?  I only bought mine about 4 weeks ago, but it was a double speed 8
> >meg refurbished unit from Thaddeus.  I've used a 100LX since 1993 and
> >I'd hate to think we've come to the end of the road for this great
> >product.
> >Jim
>
> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
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--- On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 19:57:02 +0000  Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

>I have a crazy amount of
>packets of info hitting me every day from two e-mail systems, phone and
>fax etc and I feel need a better way of coping with it than the built -
>in HP200LX functions (calendar, to - do, database, notebook etc). I do
>have global search from SUPER running but this doesn't of course bring
>up all relevant info from a keyword search simultaneously in the way
>that Agenda and IS would - rather you have to launch each application
>one at a time.

AGENDA IS PERFECT FOR YOUR SITUATION.  It is designed to take lots of small pieces of information, help you
organize this information, and help you find relationships between them when they exist.

Use the Information Sifter application that comes with Agenda.  It is specifically designed to take
information from external sources (like e-mail, news, documents, ..., etc.) and organize it.

To make this work, you also need to get a handle on making definition files.  These files are used to define
how different types of structured text information is imported directly into Agenda.

>
>My limited understanding of the pros and cons of the two options are as
>follows:-
>
>FOR/AGAINST AGENDA
>
>I've heard It's hard to learn. I downloaded it onto my PC yesterday for
>evaluation prior to loading on the HP200LX but without the manuals I'm
>finding it hard to get started.

Actually, Agenda is fairly easy to learn, on the surface.  The problem is, it is such a powerful and complex
application, it is difficult to understand the nuances of how it works and how to make it work for you.  A
manual is invaluable.  I checked at Borders and they can get two Agenda manuals.  I suggest you make the
investment and find out how to make Agenda work for you.

>I've heard it's slow on the HP200LX

Agenda is only slow when you are asking it to organize information or to invoke certain functions.  Then the
typical delay is 10 seconds.  However, when you are doing data entry and editing, it is very responsive.  In
fact, it is comparable to many Win95 applications running on a Pentium 120.  We are just spoiled by the
responsiveness of the 200LX under normal situations.

I think that on a double speed 200LX, it performance will be very acceptable.

My biggest complaint about running Agenda on a 200LX is the small type on the display.

______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/23/97 6:22:59 PM EST
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Let me re-phrase my question. surely someone here must know.

1) does HP still produce the 200LX?
2) does HP still SELL the 200LX?
3) Are any retail outlets still selling the 200LX?

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Richard Bueker wrote:

> I haven't looked lately, but Educalc had been selling 2 different P.C.
> compatible palmtops. I thought one had a 286 CPU. It even had M.S. Works
> hardcoded into it so it would come on without a load time. I am
> wondering if I would have been better off with it than my 200 LX. When I
> bought my current (2nd) 200LX last summer I could have purchased the
> Educalc 'clone' unit for the same price. Like I say, I am not sure if
> EduCalc still has it in their catalog.


Trust me.  The 200LX is the right choice.  The palmtop with MS Works hardcoded is the
one I got-- the PTV30 "Super Palmtop."  This is NOT a palmtop.  It's about as 1.5 times
as long as the 200LX, about as wide as the 200LX is long, and about the same thickness.
It was very surprising how huge it was when I got it.  There was no way it could fit in
a pocket, even a really big one.  The larger keyboard was actually HARDER to type on
than the 200LX-- it was very "soggy," so to speak, and I often found myself thinking I
had hit the key when in fact I hadn't, or accidentally typing two or three letters.  And
it lacked the great PIM software that comes with the 200LX.  And, it ran Works SLOWER
than my 200LX!  Sorely disappointed, I returned it, and went out and purchased another
200LX.  I should've stuck with it from the beginning.  :)

The only real advantage that palmtop had was the built-in Works 2.0, the two PCMCIA
sockets, and the parallel port.  Other than that, it was pretty much identical to the
200LX.  And it lacked the great PIM software that comes with the 200LX.
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Thanks for the hands on report. I am glad to hear the real story.

        Richard


David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Richard Bueker wrote:
>
> > I haven't looked lately, but Educalc had been selling 2 different P.C.
>
> Trust me.  The 200LX is the right choice.  The palmtop with MS Works hardcoded is the
> one I got-- the PTV30 "Super Palmtop."  This is NOT a palmtop.  It's about as 1.5 times
> as long as the 200LX, about as wide as the 200LX is long, and about the same thickness.
> It was very surprising how huge it was when I got it.  There was no way it could fit in
> a pocket, even a really big one.  The larger keyboard was actually HARDER to type on
> than the 200LX-- it was very "soggy," so to speak, and I often found myself thinking I
> had hit the key when in fact I hadn't, or accidentally typing two or three letters.  And
> it lacked the great PIM software that comes with the 200LX.  And, it ran Works SLOWER
> than my 200LX!  Sorely disappointed, I returned it, and went out and purchased another
> 200LX.  I should've stuck with it from the beginning.  :)
>
> The only real advantage that palmtop had was the built-in Works 2.0, the two PCMCIA
> sockets, and the parallel port.  Other than that, it was pretty much identical to the
> 200LX.  And it lacked the great PIM software that comes with the 200LX.
> --
> Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 00:19:55 -0500
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I have a DEAD screen on my 200lx!!!  :((

If you happen to know contact details of repair locations around
Philadelphia or elsewhere in the USA as well as pricing I would very much
appreciate your advice.

At this time my machine is 2MB.. Does anyone do a "special" for screen
repair and upgrade to 2 speed and memory?

Thanks in advance

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 00:55:26 -0500
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:55:21 +0000
Message-ID: <19971124055518.AAA6676@Ý12.64.36.50¨>

Despite the discussed merits of both Lotus Agenda and Info Select, I
haven't heard much about their ability to integrate into the existing
LX built-in suite of apps. Maybe they can't. It sounds like an
all-or-nothing proposition.

Am I right in assuming that once committed to LA or IS, you can't enter
phone numbers or any relevant info into the built-in PIMS without then
exporting the info to LA/IS? This would add a level of redundancy unless
you're willing to commit to using LA/IS as a complete replacement for the
built-ins. That means giving up entering PIM information while having
Stopwatch,Worldtime,PocketQuicken,HPCalc,etc, running at the same time.

More to the point for me, I use Lotus 123. The spreadsheets that I build
are an important part of any "notes" relevant to a project, yet it sounds
like I'd have to print or text-export a copy of the spreadsheet to either
LA/IS in order for them to recognize the information. Likewise with people
who use PocketQuicken to log expense items...these wouldn't automatically
get captured into LA/IS without a manual export process (am I right?).

OK, I admit I haven't played with either LA/IS yet....guess I'm getting
cautious and skeptical in my old age <g>.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:09:18 +0100
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> >200LX to my iomega Zip Drive. Very pleased with that capability. This is
> >done with a PCMCIA Parallel card from TransDigital. Approx.$150. Good
> >stuff!

USD 105 from me

JS

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:49:56 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel and Win 3.0
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On 23 Nov, Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:
> G'day,
>         I was hoping to use Software Carousel to quickly switch to Win
> 3.0. Unfortunately Win 3.0 seems to disable SC. Does anyone know if it is
> possible to use Sc with Win 3.0?
>

Yes it is :-)  I remember doing it, I think where you are getting stuck
(maybe) is that windows disables the SC hotkeys.  THere is a program
called sckey (should be on the disk) to re-enable them but I never
tried it.

Murray
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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:49:03 -0500
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There are now over 60 listees either using Lotus Agenda or at least considering using it.

Given the complexity of the software, does anyone have any suggestions on what we can do through the list to
help people get started?
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/24/97 8:46:04 AM EST
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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:51:15 -0500
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              Donald Davies <ddavies@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU>
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Subject:      200LX still produced/sold? -Reply

Our company just bought 14 new HP 200LX 2MB approximately 2 weeks ago
from a retailer in Indianapolis, Indiana (USA).  Yes, This does make me
a "newbie" (hahahaha).  I have been working with all types of computers
over the last 17 years and I love this DOS-based palmtop!!!!!!
IMO, I looked at WinCE and was not impressed.  I like the flexibility
and control of DOS.
           Don

>>> <PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM> 11/23/97 07:47pm >>>
Let me re-phrase my question. surely someone here must know.

1) does HP still produce the 200LX?
2) does HP still SELL the 200LX?
3) Are any retail outlets still selling the 200LX?

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:19:58 -0500
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              Mark Sailer <msailer@ML.COM>
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>> LIFE WAS EASIER BEFORE MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!
>
>My signature below that!!! <G>
>
>Andreas ÝD&A¨
>

Microsoft <=> DOS

Are we talking CPM or Pure Assembly code and Lites here  ; )

or do we mean.....
LIFE WAS EASIER BEFORE MICROSOFT WINDOWS !!!!!!!!!

Mark

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:14:53 -0700
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I believe that the issues are:

  1) Once by HP 200LX wears out, breaks, or whatever, what can I replace it
with
     2-3 years down the road?

  2) I need an upgrade path for my 200LX to a more powerful DOS based palmtop
(VGA
     display, 386->486 performance, ..., etc.).


I am really excited by the PC110, a product currently available only in a
Japanese version, from IBM.  I have heard they are going to release an English
version here in the states.  This machine will be my next purchase, if they do.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:21:02 -0500
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The following is a website on the IBM PC110:

http://www.walker.reston.va.us/pc110/

Look to be 150% the volume of an HP 200LX, which isn't too bad!
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           11/24/97 2:19:40 PM EST
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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:06:19 -0600
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              Mary and Mike Kilpatrick <mikemary@MCIPNET.COM>
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 have a couple of extra Flash Cards I am not using in my 200LX.
New-in-the-box, HP F1012A 5MB Flash Disk for Hp100LX and HP200LX. Comes
preformatted and preloaded with Stacker 3.0 data-compression software. (To
get compression, and increase storage capacity, you must first install the
Stacker Drivers on your Palmtop. Software for this is  included on 5-1/4
and 3-1/2" disks.

$59 plus shipping

Viking 4MB ATA Flash Card. Currently in use in my 200LX. Viking web site
lists lifetime, no-questions-asked warranty on all Viking memory products.

$49 plus shipping

Mike Kilpatricl
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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:31:53 -0500
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For sale.

    Eiger Labs 2MB SRAM PCMCIA card
    Perfect condition
    Compatible with HP 95LX, 100LX and 200LX (don't know about others)

    $65 check/MO (includes S&H Continental US)
    $70 COD (includes S&H Continental US)

Contact me at the e-mail address below if interested.
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/24/97 4:26:04 PM EST
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Date:         Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:01:38 +0000
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Did anyone install the program and could help me to get it going ?
I am looking for an "x00 fossil" driver (don't know what it is at
all) and the appropriate setup for it.
It would be great to run the program under Windows but a DOS solution
is sufficient too.

Any help appreciated !

Bye,
Christof

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:41:49 -0600
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I use HP Flash Cards with Stacker in my 100 and 200LX's. I recently
purchased some new cards. Must these cards also be Stac'd? I guess the
question is, with multiple cards, is it all or none for Stacker?

Thanks,
Mike Kilpatrick

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:47:54 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Info on IBM PC110

I purchased the PC110 before I found the 200lx. It is a nice machine (486,
20meg,  color VGA, PCMCIA ÝType III¨, Compact Flash, mono sound card,
built-in phone, etc). It comes with Japanese applications built in. It has
one VERY nice feature. It can boot from the internal 4meg Flash drive, a Type
II or III PCMCIA, a Compact Flash slot, OR the floppy.
I still use my 200lx more than the PC110, which is really a very small
laptop. I was experimenting with a 20meg PCMCIA Flash card. I might use Jam
on the Flash and try some Win3.1 and DOS stuff.
There was talk of importing it into the USA. Apparently not. I have been told
that it has been discontinued in Japan now.

I do like my lx though.

Dennis

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:53:02 -0800
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Bigtime is a System Manager compliant digital clock that also displays the
main battery voltage. If anyone has this file/program can you please send
it to me. (:-D

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:55:45 -0700
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     Hi!
     But there are a few Techs out here to that just love to use this thing
     called HP200LX.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Subject: Re: HP marketing (and other thoughts--LONG)
Author:  Non-HP-JDybdahl (JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/22/97 5:57 PM


>In bicycling circles there is a term for a person who resists new
>technology that has questionable advantage over the old.  That term is:
>retrogrouch.  I happily consider myself a DOS retrogrouch.

You could say that. But is Windows (any kind) "new technology"?
NO!!!

In my view Windows is "only" what brought computing to the masses (which
everybody indirectly benefit from in the form of lower prices) as any
birdbrain apparently can win'doze. With DOS (and UNIX) one has to be
capable of learning commands by heart and, to be a poweruser, also be
capable of *combining* a number of commands.

Ýbefore you start the flamethrowers: no, I am not trying to be arrogant;
one has to have a more than casual interest in computing to want to do
this. We *are* probably nuts, though in my case a *happy* nut¨.

No wonder, it is engineering types that love the Ý12¨00-LX.

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:19:30 -0500
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Hello Jorgen and all others,

It's nice seeing you here, Jorgen. I am happy to see that you are still using
your 200LXs. Also, I want you to be sure that I highly respect your opinions.
However, it seems that you have been quite influenced by the culture of your
employer (HP's Asia Pacific Division), and as such, there are a number of
statements in your messages that I find pretty significant:

You wrote:

>...not common for HP- going out for an early press release<

If anything, that shows that HP is no longer the engineering company it used to
be - selling well engineered, but poorly marketed product -, and is now turning
into a marketing company "a la Microsoft", doing just the opposite - selling
badly engineered products such as WinCE (or WinAnything, for that matter)
thanks to marketing. And since you were about the last engineering-minded
company in the computer business, you might well end up losing more customers
than you will gain in doing so - at least you will lose me.

>...when people realize what they need<

This blatantly supports my affirmation above. So you believe that people are
not intelligent enough to know what THEY need, and that you, the marketing
people, are in better place to define their needs? Sorry, but I don't see how
this could be true.

Right, many people (most?) have been stupid enough to follow the marketing
advices, otherwise Windows wouldn't have been a success. All versions of
Windows are such peace of trash that anyone with a decent mind should have
tried to find a way to avoid using it. IMHO, they would have been better off
today, had they stayed with their Dos-based 8088. As far as handhelds are
concerned, I don't want you to feel offended, but if I was the typical WinCE
target customer, I would rather go for a Pilot or a Psion.

BTW, I think the Libretto has no hard disk, and uses PCMCIA cards instead. So
it could use a large flash card, instead of a type III hard drive. As far as
HP's quality is concerned, I did not try it, but I would rather be suspicious
about it: With the current trend focusing on cost reductions everywhere in
manufacturing, even Mercedes has left quality aside.

>...need e-mail, web browsing<

Like it or not, but the informative part of the Internet resides in the ASCII
parts - e-mail, newsgroups, and FTP. Informative web pages can be requested via
e-mail, and for the rest, the Web, graphics and all, is mostly used for
advertising. So, does one really NEED that? "LIKE" would be more appropriate.

>...give you a choice: Visual Basic, Visual C++, or Java...<

Visual Basic 1.0/Dos works on the 200LX. C++ is also available, and as a
programmer, I know it is by far more efficient than Java. Besides, Microsoft
Java isn't really Java compatible (it doesn't support "standard" Java).

BTW, thanks a lot for your nice comments about writing EXMs. As an experienced
programmer, I will invest that option as soon as I find some time. You
mentioned you would like a good Alarm Clock. As there are already such programs
out here, are there any specific features you would like to see?

>...2 operating systems in the future: WinNT and WinCE<

If I had to choose, or write a program for a portable machine other than the
200LX, I would prefer a Libretto (or an IBM PC110, for that matter) loaded with
WinNT over a WinCE machine. Though if I had a choice, I would install Linux on
such a machine instead.

Well, I hope you take it all well. I have written published praises for HP and
its 200LX in the past, but this time, I had to react. Be sure your answers will
be welcome, as I would be glad to find proofs that HP is still an engineering
company focusing on quality.

Regards,

Francois.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:32:00 -0500
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DA>Trust me.  The 200LX is the right choice.  The palmtop with MS Works hardcod
  >is the
  >one I got-- the PTV30 "Super Palmtop."  This is NOT a palmtop.  It's about a
  >1.5 times
  >as long as the 200LX, about as wide as the 200LX is long, and about the same
  >thickness.

DA>The only real advantage that palmtop had was the built-in Works 2.0, the two
  >PCMCIA
  >sockets, and the parallel port.  Other than that, it was pretty much identic
  >to the
  >200LX.  And it lacked the great PIM software that comes with the 200LX.

     This is how I got into Palmtopping, I ALMOST bought one of those
and it was an accident of fate that brought me to the 100LX instead.  I
needed a small portable computer to take to the 1993 Gun Rights Policy
Conference in D.C. I ordered one of the above from the mail order
outfit DAK.  Waiting and waiting, with time running out, I got UPS to
run a trace on it.  Turns out that UPS accidentally delivered to a home
a block away from me, and the cretin who received it signed my name!  I
had a hell of a time convincing DAK I never received it, and as a
result will never do business with them again (UPS was completely
forthright about admitting their mistake and their responsibility).  I
did a credit card chargeback or probably never would have gotten DAK to
do the right thing - moral, never do mail order any way OTHER than
credit card.  By the time this was all straightened out I had little
time, the GRPC was less than a week away, so I went to the local
computer superstore and discovered the 100LX.  It didn't have MS Works
nor 2 PCMCIA slots like the other, but I felt the smaller size meant I
probably had a better chance of not having it stolen at work since I
could keep it in my shirt pocket.  I'm certainly glad I never bought
that "Super Palmtop"!

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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The link wouldn't work for me. Is it still up?
R Bueker

mdstockr wrote:
>
> The following is a website on the IBM PC110:
>
> http://www.walker.reston.va.us/pc110/
>
> Look to be 150% the volume of an HP 200LX, which isn't too bad!
> ______________________________________________
>
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   Hello All,

   Sorry about the delay with this, but I have finally uploaded a
   country database to Murrays HPLX database site.

   http://www.iinet.net.au/_muzza/hp_db.html

   The file is called cntry.zip.

   If anyone downloaded the first version, this new version is
   considerably different.  It contains more information on each
   country, and the data is from a totally different source.

   The database contains:
   . country name in English
   . the two character ISO code for countries
   . the three character ISO code for countries
   . the three digit ISO code for countries
   . the three character currency ISO code
   . currency name in English
   . notes field for users notes

   I also included one record at the top of the database which
   contains the Web site type codes.  i.e. COM, NET, ORG...


   Thanks

   David Eggins
   Canberra Australia
   davee@iname.com

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:05:14 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I have a copy of Big Time as well as many other little goodies. I deleted
the address of the person wanting it. If they will email me either
directly or via the list I will forward it.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http:\\www.bham.net\jcsd


    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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     Hi!
     I did not keep the text not because I did not like it, on the contrary
     I loved it. I am also a HP employee and I have said it many time HP
     today is not what HP was when Packard ran the company. He would never
     have put up with what is going on today. But I guess times change and
     so does HP. But I believe you spoke the truth, THANKS.


     Helmut in Colorado

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:22:15 -0400
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Was this induced by some sort of TRAUMA?

> I have a DEAD screen on my 200lx!!!  :((
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Finger btw@vnet.net for my PGP key
           Alba gu brath!

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   I am inquiring as to the usefullness of a 2.1Gb HDD for the
   palmtop. Besides its size and weight, you can buy a Quanum
   Fireball ST 2.1Gb HDD for _250AUD.

   I have heard of a PCMCIA to IDE card.  This seems to me to be
   a LOT cheaper per meg than PCMCIA (with loss of
   transportability).

   OK, you need a power source, the HDD is bigger and heavier
   than the HPLX, but if you only wanted that type of storage at
   your desk, and a smaller PCMCIA memory card for portability,
   could you actually utilise the full 2.1Gb?  How many
   partitions would you need? Is this possible?


   Thanks

   David Eggins
   Canberra Australia
   davee@iname.com

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>By the time this was all straightened out I had little
>time, the GRPC was less than a week away, so I went to the local
>computer superstore and discovered the 100LX.  It didn't have MS Works
>nor 2 PCMCIA slots like the other, but I felt the smaller size meant I
>probably had a better chance of not having it stolen at work since I
>could keep it in my shirt pocket.  I'm certainly glad I never bought
>that "Super Palmtop"!
>
>Jim@AirGunHQ.com

But Jim, you did buy the real "super Palmtop"!<g>

Best Regards,
Owen


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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:18:20 +1100
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>    2.1Gb for _250AUD.
You make a telling point; we are so far away from the mainstream
that we must pay a premium for memory.

>    could you actually utilise the full 2.1Gb?
It's a bit hard to imagine without using recent win software...

But you could get a large slab of the Gutenburg Project in:
        I think an average of 1/2 Meg per book.
        That's 4000 books...

You could use that movie player on SUPER, and play a whole movie, perhaps...
I think that's around 1/2 Meg for 10 sec (VERY roughly); so.
40,000 seconds: that's 666 minutes; that's 11 hours of video. You
could have several full length feature movies. Or an entire season
of your favourite sitcom (*including* ads).

Or you could store a *very* good fraction <g> of the SUPER site...


It's a pity the whole thing won't run on 2 AA batteries for 20 hours and
fit in your pocket, though... now, that *would* be incrediable.

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There is a tilda "~" missing before "muzza".  Also I tried to download
once I got to the site and it wouldn't work.

Les

David Eggins wrote:
>
>    Hello All,
>
>    Sorry about the delay with this, but I have finally uploaded a
>    country database to Murrays HPLX database site.
>
>    http://www.iinet.net.au/_muzza/hp_db.html
>
>    The file is called cntry.zip.
>
>    If anyone downloaded the first version, this new version is
>    considerably different.  It contains more information on each
>    country, and the data is from a totally different source.
>
>    The database contains:
>    . country name in English
>    . the two character ISO code for countries
>    . the three character ISO code for countries
>    . the three digit ISO code for countries
>    . the three character currency ISO code
>    . currency name in English
>    . notes field for users notes
>
>    I also included one record at the top of the database which
>    contains the Web site type codes.  i.e. COM, NET, ORG...
>
>    Thanks
>
>    David Eggins
>    Canberra Australia
>    davee@iname.com
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I think HP has enuff Horsepower to meet the needs of the loyal fans to do
ALL the stuff it has done so well over the last 25 +/- years - upgraded -
the specialty calculator functions, teh RPN language, the small size (palm
tops), let alone other specialty ap stuff I don't use in the scientific &
medical fields, access to "shareware" applications - seems like this could
be sold as applications, cheap( the work is already done) to an HP language
card if not an onboard chip or ROM chip....

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<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">I think HP has enuff Horsepower to meet =
the needs of the loyal fans to do ALL the stuff it has done so well over =
the last 25 +/- years - upgraded - the specialty calculator functions, =
teh RPN language, the small size (palm tops), let alone other specialty =
ap stuff I don't use in the scientific &amp; medical fields, access to =
&quot;shareware&quot; applications - seems like this could be sold as =
applications, cheap( the work is already done) to an HP language card if =
not an onboard chip or ROM chip....</p>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:39:21 -0800
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I was pretty happy with my HP11c for a lot of years but I like windows,too
not that a common user interface is so obviously benficial.  Hey I'd love
to have 16 megs ram, 10 megs rom and potentially 3rd party access to a zip
or jaz drive....especially if it had a pop-up RPN calculator (therein lies
my greatest loyalty to HP).  I'm looking for friendlier access to a larger
variety of programs rather than the ability to write applications - I feel
the future of PCs is in friendly applications - those that need to write
stuff can sit in front of escotric IBM networks and do machine language all
day - I don't care; I just need to do MY job.

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<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">I was pretty happy with my HP11c for a =
lot of years but I like windows,too not that a common user interface is =
so obviously benficial. &nbsp;Hey I'd love to have 16 megs ram, 10 megs =
rom and potentially 3rd party access to a zip or jaz drive....especially =
if it had a pop-up RPN calculator (therein lies my greatest loyalty to =
HP). &nbsp;I'm looking for friendlier access to a larger variety of =
programs rather than the ability to write applications - I feel the =
future of PCs is in friendly applications - those that need to write =
stuff can sit in front of escotric IBM networks and do machine language =
all day - I don't care; I just need to do MY job. &nbsp;</p>
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On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:41:49 -0600 (CMT), Mary and Mike Kilpatrick wrote:

mi> I use HP Flash Cards with Stacker in my 100 and 200LX's. I recently
mi> purchased some new cards. Must these cards also be Stac'd? I guess =
the
mi> question is, with multiple cards, is it all or none for Stacker?

You can retain quite a bit of individuality by placing the appropriate
startup files for each card on the card itself (providing the card is
designated the a: drive). That way when you swap a card you reboot and
setup the utils/drivers appropriate for *that* card...

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: >    2.1Gb for _250AUD.
: You make a telling point; we are so far away from the mainstream
: that we must pay a premium for memory.

We do have to pay a premium for memory - but it's hard to fathom
how much of a premium that HD is without knowing what AUD's are.
Austrailian dollars?  What's the exchange rate (or at least an
approximation)
in $US?

: >    could you actually utilise the full 2.1Gb?
: It's a bit hard to imagine without using recent win software...

2.1Gb?  Sure.  On the hardware/software end, DOS 5.0 would let
you partition it into 2-4 (5? 6?) sections -- you can't do one partition
without either FAT32 (windows 95) or a _real_ filesystem like E2FS.

Great Programming Idea! - Why not make an E2FS driver for DOS?
Glad I thought of it. ;)

On actually filling up the hard drive, start with the SimTel DOS CD.  Then
take SUPER.  Then put on your favorite abandonware (wherever such wares
may be found anymore.)  Then put on all the CGA DOS games you can find
that don't suck.  (That's the hard part. ;)  Then copy the complete works
of
Project Gutenberg.  Then you can use the rest for whatever your little heart
desires.

: But you could get a large slab of the Gutenburg Project in:
:         I think an average of 1/2 Meg per book.
:         That's 4000 books...

Trivia: Gutenberg has 1000 books.  You could put their entire collection
on.  It would probably be better to transfer them to the ramdisk to read,
though -- holding the hard drive while you read would be not at all
enjoyable.

: You could use that movie player on SUPER, and play a whole movie,
perhaps...
: I think that's around 1/2 Meg for 10 sec (VERY roughly); so.
: 40,000 seconds: that's 666 minutes; that's 11 hours of video. You
: could have several full length feature movies. Or an entire season
: of your favourite sitcom (*including* ads).

Nifty.  But you have to consider that watching a movie on the 200 would
not be the same as watching your 25" theatre-sound color TV.  In fact, it
likely wouldn't be a good approximation of what you can get off a cheap
Watchman.   Very high wow factor, though, and if you had a decent
digitizer and translator it would be fine.  EVA uses a good a/v interleave
system which would allow you to have fairly high picture/sound quality,
relatively speaking.

: Or you could store a *very* good fraction <g> of the SUPER site...

Probably all of it.  Palmtop programs are pretty slim.

: It's a pity the whole thing won't run on 2 AA batteries for 20 hours and
: fit in your pocket, though... now, that *would* be incrediable.

Sure it will!  You just can't use the hard drive. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"When you tell vicious racist jokes, you should first announce
that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
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: However, it seems that you have been quite influenced by the culture of
your
: employer (HP's Asia Pacific Division), and as such, there are a number of
: statements in your messages that I find pretty significant:
:
: >...not common for HP- going out for an early press release<
:
: If anything, that shows that HP is no longer the engineering company it
used
: to
: be - selling well engineered, but poorly marketed product -, and is now
: turning
: into a marketing company "a la Microsoft", doing just the opposite -
selling
: badly engineered products such as WinCE (or WinAnything, for that matter)
: thanks to marketing. And since you were about the last engineering-minded
: company in the computer business, you might well end up losing more
customers
: than you will gain in doing so - at least you will lose me.

I'm going to say the evil dreaded words, but with all my heart:
        Me too.
If I ever buy a palmtop again, I'll buy a 200LX - the last of the
well-engineered
palmtops from HP.  If they don't still carry it, I'll buy one from a
company that
knows what it's doing, probably IBM or Toshiba.

: >...when people realize what they need<
:
: This blatantly supports my affirmation above. So you believe that people
are
: not intelligent enough to know what THEY need, and that you, the marketing
: people, are in better place to define their needs? Sorry, but I don't see
how
: this could be true.

: BTW, I think the Libretto has no hard disk, and uses PCMCIA cards
instead. So
: it could use a large flash card, instead of a type III hard drive. As far
as
: HP's quality is concerned, I did not try it, but I would rather be
suspicious
: about it: With the current trend focusing on cost reductions everywhere in
: manufacturing, even Mercedes has left quality aside.

750M hard drive, probably a 1.8".  But it has one.  I tried a Libretto and
heard its HD
grinding away as it started up.  I could not

To HP's quality -- their standby products, designed before the evil
marketers took over,

: >...give you a choice: Visual Basic, Visual C++, or Java...<
:
: Visual Basic 1.0/Dos works on the 200LX. C++ is also available, and as a
: programmer, I know it is by far more efficient than Java. Besides,
Microsoft
: Java isn't really Java compatible (it doesn't support "standard" Java).

Java's intention was more of a pipe dream than a reality - true
cross-platform
program compatibility.  Two things shut it out very quickly:
implementation and
source distribution.  The reason there isn't a Java interpreter for the 200
is simple -
no one makes Java programs because they have to distribute the source.  As
such,
the only thing people want to put out are craplets that put a stock ticker
at the
bottom of web browser windows.  Implementation -- Microsoft goes one way to
stay away from Sun.  Any hope of Java's concept, platform-independent
programs,
was shot to hell as soon as Microsoft opened its mouth.

: >...2 operating systems in the future: WinNT and WinCE<
:
: If I had to choose, or write a program for a portable machine other than
the
: 200LX, I would prefer a Libretto (or an IBM PC110, for that matter) loaded
: with
: WinNT over a WinCE machine. Though if I had a choice, I would install
Linux on
: such a machine instead.

If -- when -- I buy another ultraportable (palmtop, superpalmtop, or
otherwise)
I'll put Linux on it.  I want a Libretto.  On the other hand, I don't have
$2000 to get one.
Yet.

: Well, I hope you take it all well. I have written published praises for
HP and
: its 200LX in the past, but this time, I had to react. Be sure your answers
: will
: be welcome, as I would be glad to find proofs that HP is still an
engineering
: company focusing on quality.

Again, me too.  HP was a good company.   I saw deterioration as soon as
St. Hewlett died, a few years ago.  Maybe they can see where they're headed
soon enough to stop.  I, for one, truly hope so -- for the sake of all of
us.
What if we all had to buy TI calculators?  The thought turns my stomach. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"When you tell vicious racist jokes, you should first announce
that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:39:11 +1100
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>
> : >    2.1Gb for _250AUD.
> : You make a telling point; we are so far away from the mainstream
> : that we must pay a premium for memory.
>
> We do have to pay a premium for memory - but it's hard to fathom
> how much of a premium that HD is without knowing what AUD's are.
> Austrailian dollars?  What's the exchange rate (or at least an
> approximation)
> in $US?
$AUD250 * .7 = $US175

(actually, the current exchange rate is even more favourable to $US ...
but I'd rather not talk about it.)


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bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
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as what we acquire by the toil of our own body."

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:15:13 -0800
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Stacker works great with either.  I run Stacker on 2 of my 10MB flash cards,
but not on my 2NB SRAM card, or my other 5MB flash.  Reads/Writes to the
non-stacked cards are transparent.  I just swap cards and I'm on my way.  I
believe that JAM has trouble with removable media, which is why I've stuck with
Stacker.

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
childers@garlic.com
http://www.garlic.com/~childers
*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***



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You Wrote:

I use HP Flash Cards with Stacker in my 100 and 200LX's. I recently
purchased some new cards. Must these cards also be Stac'd? I guess the
question is, with multiple cards, is it all or none for Stacker?

Thanks,
Mike Kilpatrick

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Thought I'd take a sec to shoot off a quick message to the list... I'm at
sports med therapy for my knees, getting electrostim.  Maybe the electrostim'll
charge up my LX through osmosis... :)

Now returning you to your regularly scheduled broadcasts,
Bill

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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Maybe we could start a thread using ÝAGENDA¨ as part of the subject line.  This
topic might be a candidate for a wqole new list, though, cause it's just not
quite on topic.  How do other people feel about this?


Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
childers@garlic.com
http://www.garlic.com/~childers
*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***


****************
You Wrote:
There are now over 60 listees either using Lotus Agenda or at least considering
using it.

Given the complexity of the software, does anyone have any suggestions on what
we can do through the list to
help people get started?
______________________________________________

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           11/24/97 8:46:04 AM EST
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> Microsoft <=3D> DOS
>
> Are we talking CPM or Pure Assembly code and Lites here  ; )
>
> or do we mean.....
> LIFE WAS EASIER BEFORE MICROSOFT WINDOWS !!!!!!!!!

Both! Before DOS, there were operating systems that were much more
powerful than current bloatware. Probably the most widespread of them
was UNIX. But I agree: if it were only DOS, it would be almost
acceptable.

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:47:56 +1100
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> So what do you think of all this HP mess, abandoning traditional QC
> principles, and turning out crap?  Suppose someone will run interference,
> like IBM or Toshiba?

Like someone said, it's a big company; maybe they are just *trying*
producing crap, to see if they like it or not...

I think IBM had a go at traditional QC values with their PC's. And look
where it got them...

Lest we forget that DOS itself is surely such a product. It's just that
it takes 10 years to stablise. WinCE will be a solid product, if it
lasts 10 years.



OTOH, really very few people buy HP200lx - it's the engineer choice,
and engineers are a minority market. I really, *really* wanted to buy
a Psion - but the HP was just too good, when you really, *really*
looked at it.
But how many people do that? Or even have the time to?

OTOOH, HP is probably much better at it's traditional market niche, of
excellent-quality, high-utility, but uncool and unsexy products,
than producing crap. Hopefully they won't make enough money out of
producing crap. But if they can get a better return on investment by
doing that, they *owe* it to their shareholders to do just that. It's a
sad truth about the world.

They are, of course, milking the cash cow, cashing in their reputation
capital, burning the candle at both ends; but long term thinking is hard
to do if you are a just-employed MBA graduate, eager to make your mark.
It's different if you were with the company from the beginning,
and it's your baby, and you wouldn't give up what you worked so hard for,
for anything.


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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 01:12:36 -0600
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Mary and Mike Kilpatrick wrote:
>
>  have a couple of extra Flash Cards I am not using in my 200LX.
> New-in-the-box, HP F1012A 5MB Flash Disk for Hp100LX and HP200LX. Comes
> preformatted and preloaded with Stacker 3.0 data-compression software. (To
> get compression, and increase storage capacity, you must first install the
> Stacker Drivers on your Palmtop. Software for this is  included on 5-1/4
> and 3-1/2" disks.
>
> $59 plus shipping


If it is still available I would be interested in one of these.  How
would you like to arrange shipping and payment.

Thanks,

Stan
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If your are willing to reboot when you shift between
stacked/non-stacked cards AND you have ATA rather
than Linear Flash cards (which require a driver to be read)
you could use config.sys from the A: drive.

Mary and Mike Kilpatrick wrote:

> I use HP Flash Cards with Stacker in my 100 and 200LX's. I recently
> purchased some new cards. Must these cards also be Stac'd? I guess the
> question is, with multiple cards, is it all or none for Stacker?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Kilpatrick
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 25 November 1997 14:22
Subject: Re: Helping Listees Get Started With Agenda


>Maybe we could start a thread using ÝAGENDA¨ as part of the subject line.
This
>topic might be a candidate for a wqole new list, though, cause it's just
not
>quite on topic.  How do other people feel about this?
>
>
>Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
>Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
>childers@garlic.com
>http://www.garlic.com/~childers
>*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***
>
>
>****************
>You Wrote:
>There are now over 60 listees either using Lotus Agenda or at least
considering
>using it.
>
>Given the complexity of the software, does anyone have any suggestions on
what
>we can do through the list to
>help people get started?
>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           11/24/97 8:46:04 AM EST
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I think this is an excellent idea.  Agenda users are left with self-help as
the only support.  The only place I know where Agenda is still discussed is
the LOTUSB forum on Compuserve, and that's getting quieter and quieter.
There isn't even a Lotus Agenda home page that I can find, though the
package certainly merits one.


David

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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 25 November 1997 14:22
Subject: Re: Helping Listees Get Started With Agenda


>Maybe we could start a thread using ÝAGENDA¨ as part of the subject line.
This
>topic might be a candidate for a wqole new list, though, cause it's just
not
>quite on topic.  How do other people feel about this?
>
>
>Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
>Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
>childers@garlic.com
>http://www.garlic.com/~childers
>*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***
>
>
>****************
>You Wrote:
>There are now over 60 listees either using Lotus Agenda or at least
considering
>using it.
>
>Given the complexity of the software, does anyone have any suggestions on
what
>we can do through the list to
>help people get started?
>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           11/24/97 8:46:04 AM EST
>______________________________________________
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:24:06 -0500
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Adding to Bill's comments below:
    I just added JAM to my 2 flash cards.  I have to reboot when I
switch cards for the machine recognize the new drive.

Don Davies

>>> childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> 11/24/97 09:15pm >>>
Stacker works great with either.  I run Stacker on 2 of my 10MB flash
cards,
but not on my 2NB SRAM card, or my other 5MB flash.  Reads/Writes to the
non-stacked cards are transparent.  I just swap cards and I'm on my way.
 I
believe that JAM has trouble with removable media, which is why I've
stuck with
Stacker.

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
childers@garlic.com
http://www.garlic.com/~childers
*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***



************************
You Wrote:

I use HP Flash Cards with Stacker in my 100 and 200LX's. I recently
purchased some new cards. Must these cards also be Stac'd? I guess the
question is, with multiple cards, is it all or none for Stacker?

Thanks,
Mike Kilpatrick

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:55:01 -0400
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I needed to send a fax out yesterday from my PC.  Of course, I made
the terrible mistake of trying to send a .txt file instead of my
usual .doc file.  Win95 fax rendering chokes completely, won't even
work after a cold restart.

SO, being desperate now, I hook up the 200lx with Transfile, move the
file over,  and use the palmtop to fax it.

Sometimes, less is more.
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:36:09 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Stacker question -Reply
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              1997 at 08:24:06AM -0500
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On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 08:24:06AM -0500, Donald Davies wrote:
> Adding to Bill's comments below:
>     I just added JAM to my 2 flash cards.  I have to reboot when I
> switch cards for the machine recognize the new drive.
>
> Don Davies
>
> >>> childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> 11/24/97 09:15pm >>>
>> Stacker works great with either.  I run Stacker on 2 of my 10MB flash
>> cards, but not on my 2NB SRAM card, or my other 5MB flash.  Reads/Writes
>> to the non-stacked cards are transparent.  I just swap cards and I'm on
>> my way.  I believe that JAM has trouble with removable media, which is
>> why I've stuck with Stacker.

I have had no problems with JAM and removable media.  All you have to
do is unmount the drive, turn off your HP, switch cards, turn it back
on, and mount the new one.

Assuming a flash card on a: and a mounted jam drive on f:, try the
following:

c:\> jmount f: /d
JMOUNT 1.25 Copyright (c) JAM Software. 1992-1995. All rights reserved.

JAM drive F: unmounted.

<off>
<switch>
<on>
c:\> jmount a:\honker
JMOUNT 1.25 Copyright (c) JAM Software. 1992-1995. All rights reserved.

JAM file A:\HONKER.JAM mounted as drive F:

c:\>

Of course, it helps if you name all your JAM files the same...  Make a
batch file to unmount it and mount it and you are all done.

I do this sort of procedure when I switch to my modem.  I don't want
my 19MB jam file to get corrupted!  Too many important games...er...
work related files in there!

jaime
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:21:58 +0800
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>Hello Jorgen and all others,
>
>It's nice seeing you here, Jorgen. I am happy to see that you are still using
>your 200LXs. Also, I want you to be sure that I highly respect your opinions.
>However, it seems that you have been quite influenced by the culture of your
>employer (HP's Asia Pacific Division), and as such, there are a number of
>statements in your messages that I find pretty significant:

It's my Private oppinion that Microsoft has unfortunately used it's power
to make the buyers of software the PC industries "guinea pigs". Put
together a software and let the users report the bugs. Then give them
patches... This instead of comming out with a solid software from the
beginning.

However, since Microsoft has changed the whole PC industry companies has to
follow if they want to get a part of the market. It's a fact that if you
for example ask 1000 users what they think about MS Windows 95 and NT- the
Majority will reply- "I love those platforms". If not the majority had
liked what MS offers- MS had never become this BIG- right?

Same thing with palmtop users- the majority loves Win CE and what it can
offer. Yes, there are a lots of PC and palmtop users that don't like
Windows at all and think it's a low quality platform. BUT unfortunately we
are a minority and any company that wants to "make it big" in the PC
industy today must give the Majority what they want unless they focus on a
niche market. But even a niche market must be big enough to give a return
of investment.

What I write here is my private opinion and I will not discuss HP's
philosophy. HP can't be that wrong since HP is currently the leading
company in palmtop PC's and one of the leading brands in the PC and
Notebook markets.

>
>You wrote:
>
>>...not common for HP- going out for an early press release<
>
>If anything, that shows that HP is no longer the engineering company it
used to
>be - selling well engineered, but poorly marketed product -, and is now
turning
>into a marketing company "a la Microsoft", doing just the opposite - selling
>badly engineered products such as WinCE (or WinAnything, for that matter)
>thanks to marketing. And since you were about the last engineering-minded
>company in the computer business, you might well end up losing more customers
>than you will gain in doing so - at least you will lose me.

Any company in the PC industry must be flexible in they way to do business.
If you don't adapt to the markets requirements, you will loose out! Now
when the 2nd round in the "Win CE competition" starts, you have to chose if
you should give what the Majority wants to have or not.

I fully understand HP 200LX users and their frustration. But I don't
understand why so many 200LX users are so upset over the Win CE palmtops.
If the majority of palmtop users wants a Win CE palmtop let them have it
and as a user I can still chose to use my HP 200LX which is for me the best
palmtop in the world. Since HP will continue with HP 200LX a Win CE palmtop
is not a replacement it's an additional choice. Even if someone would try
to develop 200LX further, the result will most probably be a DOS palmtop
which is bigger than 200LX and with much less battery life. I love my 200LX
as it is and I will continue to use it for Many more years to come!!! I
will give you another example- 14 years ago I bought a HP 41CX calculator.
It's still working and it can do everything I need to do- so I am not
looking for an replacement- I am still using it.
>
>>...when people realize what they need<
>
>This blatantly supports my affirmation above. So you believe that people are
>not intelligent enough to know what THEY need, and that you, the marketing
>people, are in better place to define their needs? Sorry, but I don't see how
>this could be true.

You would probably be surprised if you could see that the Majority of
palmtop users in the world actually don't know what they can do with a
palmtop and they need information and education before they realize what
they need a palmtop for.
>
>Right, many people (most?) have been stupid enough to follow the marketing
>advices, otherwise Windows wouldn't have been a success. All versions of
>Windows are such peace of trash that anyone with a decent mind should have
>tried to find a way to avoid using it. IMHO, they would have been better off
>today, had they stayed with their Dos-based 8088. As far as handhelds are
>concerned, I don't want you to feel offended, but if I was the typical WinCE
>target customer, I would rather go for a Pilot or a Psion.

Yes, but you and me are not good representatives for the Majority since we
don't like MS Windows stuff- right? I personally feel that's no idea to try
to fight with the Majority as long as we have options that suites us
better- such as Linux on a desktop or 200LX as a palmtop.
>
>BTW, I think the Libretto has no hard disk, and uses PCMCIA cards instead. So
>it could use a large flash card, instead of a type III hard drive. As far as
>HP's quality is concerned, I did not try it, but I would rather be suspicious
>about it: With the current trend focusing on cost reductions everywhere in
>manufacturing, even Mercedes has left quality aside.

Yes, you could probably remove the harddisk in a Libretto and use a 85MB
flash card instead- but on the other side why use a "big" mini notebook as
Libretto if you can do the same job using a 200LX? And who asked for cost
reductions? The Majority of users out there- cars or whatever.
>
>>...need e-mail, web browsing<
>
>Like it or not, but the informative part of the Internet resides in the ASCII
>parts - e-mail, newsgroups, and FTP. Informative web pages can be
requested via
>e-mail, and for the rest, the Web, graphics and all, is mostly used for
>advertising. So, does one really NEED that? "LIKE" would be more appropriate.

There you are wrong- we have several Corporate Customers which must use
graphical information on their intranet and find that a Win CE palmtop is
the best mobile tool for them.
>
>>...give you a choice: Visual Basic, Visual C++, or Java...<
>
>Visual Basic 1.0/Dos works on the 200LX. C++ is also available, and as a
>programmer, I know it is by far more efficient than Java. Besides, Microsoft
>Java isn't really Java compatible (it doesn't support "standard" Java).

Again- the Majority of software developers likes and support Microsofts
different tools for developing Win CE software. I can't do anything about it!
>
>BTW, thanks a lot for your nice comments about writing EXMs. As an
experienced
>programmer, I will invest that option as soon as I find some time. You
>mentioned you would like a good Alarm Clock. As there are already such
programs
>out here, are there any specific features you would like to see?

I and a friend has actually already done a DOS Alarm Clock (EXE) with high
resolution of the time and which will wake up the palmtop when the alarm
goes. However, it must be improved and converted to an efficient EXM
program and we are both very busy for the moment. Maybe one day we will
release this Alarm Clock.
>
>>...2 operating systems in the future: WinNT and WinCE<
>
>If I had to choose, or write a program for a portable machine other than the
>200LX, I would prefer a Libretto (or an IBM PC110, for that matter) loaded
with
>WinNT over a WinCE machine. Though if I had a choice, I would install
Linux on
>such a machine instead.

As you can see- we all have options and since you would chose Linux over
Windows (which I also would!!!)- we are minority users....
>
>Well, I hope you take it all well. I have written published praises for HP
and
>its 200LX in the past, but this time, I had to react. Be sure your answers
will
>be welcome, as I would be glad to find proofs that HP is still an engineering
>company focusing on quality.

I hope that you fully understand that I am not talking for HP here, but
give you my private opinion. In short, I think it's ok for any company to
produce any kind of product that gives the majority what they want.
Unfortunately I am not a part of that majority when it comes to a palmtop
PC. If I where, life had been much easier.

Please I don't want to get angry replies about Win CE. I am a HP 200LX user
and will always be and I am on your side. The only thing is that I respect
that the Majoritys needs must be fullfilled. That's called
democracy.....(even if the majority to use seams to be "stupid").
>
>Regards,
>
>Francois.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:22:22 +0800
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>     Hi!
>     I did not keep the text not because I did not like it, on the contrary
>     I loved it. I am also a HP employee and I have said it many time HP
>     today is not what HP was when Packard ran the company. He would never
>     have put up with what is going on today. But I guess times change and
>     so does HP. But I believe you spoke the truth, THANKS.
>
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
Hi Helmut!

Thanks! Yes, unfortunately any serious company has to adapt to the fast
changes in the PC industry and going with Microsoft WIndows is what the
majority of the endusers want. This partnership with the Giant change much
of conventional thinking. But on the other hand- it will give the Majority
what they want.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:16:59 -0600
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Hopefully this isn't getting too far from HP content, but Agenda seems
to run OK under DosEMU under Linux.  I haven't tested it extensively,
but this is a major plus for those of us who are considering using
Agenda on the LX and use Linux as our primary desktop.

-Brian

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:08:01 -0000
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I'm writing this on the Libretto, and I can assure everyone that it has
a Hard Disk  - about 800MB in this 50CT.  The 70CT just announced has I
think a 1.3 Gb disk (and 120MHz MMX).  So if anyone wants to know how
big it really is...I can put my 200LX next to it.   I could send a photo
but 'no binary posts' so I will resist that.

The really obvious things:

1.  The 200LX turns 'off' and 'on' instantly.  It's really never off.
So it is always available, whereas with the Libretto I can't take down a
phone number or note without resuming it - much longer.

2.   The Libretto has real Win95.  Not CE or any such wannabe software.
So I have on here the very same Win95 build (corporate standard) that I
have on my Tecra 720CDT.  No compromise in applications I can run - it's
just that this is slower and cannot have more than 32mb RAM - and many
of you will know that Bloatware makes this just enough, no more.  ÝYes I
too ran paper tape through tine-sharing BASIC on HP2100 with 32Kb RAM
that cost $$$ and took Spanish ladies a long time to knit the ferrite
core memory, but ran FORTRAN II just fine¨.  I can not only read my mail
from the Exchange server, I can read the attachments.

3.  The Libretto is bigger - about 100% by volume.  It's still tiny
compared to a normal laptop.  Remember it is the same spec as a Toshiba
T4900C !  I would need to get my tailor to make a pocket for it, or get
a poacher's jacket.

4.   The Libretto battery life is *very* short.  I've been using the
high-capapcity battery alternating with the normal one - it's still as
low as 90 minutes of real use before it begins to complain.  It has got
the most fancy battery management software I have seen...I can set
CPU/display/HDD etc activity individually, for each of 4 different
battery levels.  So as the battery drains it gets dim, slows down, stops
the HDD more quickly etc.  Compare the 200LX which I change batteries
(dry cell Duracell) maybe 3 times a year - but to be fair the usage is
very different.


So overall these are not competing against each other.   The HP200 is up
against the Psion (in UK), Palm Pilot, Zaurus & co as a system which is
really pocket size.  It leads on built-in function for some, in DOS
ability for others.

The Libretto is a small laptop for big chiefs who cannot afford the
space for a laptop (no no me, I try them out for them) in their slim
Gucci briefcase.  They can access the corporate mail, including
attachments.

The Win CE machines - never tried one but unless they have battery life
like the 200LX they are at the mercy of the Libretto types.  Why have
50% of Win95 when you can have it all ?  The coporate software
developers adn support staff would not hesitate to say 'use one o/s, not
two'.

Oh, and you can get Linux to run on the Libretto....

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:05:39 -0500
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I realize this is slightly off-topic, but I don't know where else to go with this.

Are there any free/inexpensive connectivity sofware available for getting data to/from the HP OmniGo 100/120 machines? Either for the desktop or the 200LX?

I know the CPack and Clip and Go are available, but I'm looking for something a little less expensive, even if less capable.

The only thing the HP website (http://www.hp.com/handheld) says about the OmniGo is that they will support it until April of 2002. That statement seems to be the sum of the support they provide.

Kiyoshi Akima
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:22:42 -0500
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Me too. There's no need to re-boot when switching cards. Just leave the =
Stacker driver loaded. It knows the difference. However if you normally =
load the driver through a config.sys on the stacked card and then switch =
to a card that doesn't have the same config.sys and then subsequently =
re-boot (say because something crashed) you won't be able to switch to a =
stacked card without re-booting again.=20

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From:  childersÝSMTP:childers@GARLIC.COM¨
Sent:  24-Nov-97 21:15
To:  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:  Re: Stacker question

Stacker works great with either.  I run Stacker on 2 of my 10MB flash =
cards,
but not on my 2NB SRAM card, or my other 5MB flash.  Reads/Writes to the
non-stacked cards are transparent.  I just swap cards and I'm on my way. =
 I
believe that JAM has trouble with removable media, which is why I've =
stuck with
Stacker.

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***



************************
You Wrote:

I use HP Flash Cards with Stacker in my 100 and 200LX's. I recently
purchased some new cards. Must these cards also be Stac'd? I guess the
question is, with multiple cards, is it all or none for Stacker?

Thanks,
Mike Kilpatrick

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:45:56 -0800
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              John Stafford <johnws@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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At 10:06 PM 11/24/97 PST, you wrote:
>Again, me too.  HP was a good company.   I saw deterioration as soon as
>St. Hewlett died, a few years ago.  Maybe they can see where they're headed

Bill would probably be surprised to hear this.

>soon enough to stop.  I, for one, truly hope so -- for the sake of all of
>us.

Actually in the part of the company I work in (not palmtops) there has been a
renewed emphasis on the engineering teams owning their products and delivering
what their customers require.  It is a big company, so things are not the same
"everywhere".

John "employer HP, opinions mine" Stafford



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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:16:12 +0100
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At 12:05 25/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I realize this is slightly off-topic, but I don't know where else to go
with this.
>
>Are there any free/inexpensive connectivity sofware available for getting
data to/from the HP OmniGo 100/120 machines? Either for the desktop or the
200LX?

There's a list for the OmniGo 100/120: ogo@lifelike.com

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:19:38 +0100
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Subject:      List of PCMCIA devices working on the 200LX
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Hi:

Is anybody out there maintaining a list of working PCMCIA devices on the
200LX ?

I just wander because in that case I would like to add the IBM 33K6 PCMCIA
modem with XJACK. I'll test it deeply in the next days (including current
consumption compared to my other modem a Megahertz XJ2144), and submit a
report to the list.

And a question: has anybody been successful using the Xircom PS-CE2-10
PCMCIA ethernet adapter on the 200LX ?

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:37:33 -0400
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Hmm, wondering ..

I just took out my JAMmed 12mb card, making sure I was at the topcard
display, then popped in an unJAMmed 5 mb card.  I hooked up to my PC
using Transfile and got an error message when it tried to read drive
F:, but when I selected A:, everything ran fine.  Took out the 5mb
and put the 12 back in, no problems.  Does unmounting only come into
play when you are swapping 2 JAMmed cards?


> I have had no problems with JAM and removable media.  All you have
> to do is unmount the drive, turn off your HP, switch cards, turn it
> back on, and mount the new one.
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           Alba gu brath!

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:09:28 -0600
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I did myself a big favor and got an 8 meg, x2(clock) palmtop from
Thaddeus.  After 17.6 hours of accumulated operation (battlog) on this
set of AA cells, I have never seen the unit go into Light Sleep, that is
to say, Battlog shows no accumulated time for Light Sleep.  Is this
normal?
On another thought thread, would it be correct to assume that the
internals (PC boards, display, etc.) will have the same serial number(s)
as the external case?  I guess this question would be best answered by
someone with knowledge of the procedures used during the upgrade.

Phil

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:19:45 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> On another thought thread, would it be correct to assume that the
> internals (PC boards, display, etc.) will have the same serial number(s)
> as the external case?  I guess this question would be best answered by
> someone with knowledge of the procedures used during the upgrade.

According to the person who upgraded my LX, the only place a serial number
is recorded is on the bottom external case.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:33:16 +0000
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I subscribed to this list over a web site and I marked the digest
option when I subscribed... I'm getting individual messages and It's
getting very confusing with my Ham Radio and Ti-Calc lists... Could
someone please suggest how I might manually do the digest option from
email? Thanks

-James

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> : You could use that movie player on SUPER, and play a whole movie,
> perhaps...
> : I think that's around 1/2 Meg for 10 sec (VERY roughly); so.
> : 40,000 seconds: that's 666 minutes; that's 11 hours of video. You
> : could have several full length feature movies. Or an entire season
> : of your favourite sitcom (*including* ads).
>
> Nifty.  But you have to consider that watching a movie on the 200 would
> not be the same as watching your 25" theatre-sound color TV.  In fact, it
> likely wouldn't be a good approximation of what you can get off a cheap
> Watchman.   Very high wow factor, though, and if you had a decent
> digitizer and translator it would be fine.  EVA uses a good a/v interleave
> system which would allow you to have fairly high picture/sound quality,
> relatively speaking.

I would really like to see something on this line... Maybe one of the
luckier of us with a digitizer could capture a sitcom (like
"sienfield') and convert it to eva format and tell us how it would
look?

        -James

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:18:26 -0300
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Subject:      Lost screws

Hi all !!

For the people (like me), who lost screws... :(

The cellular phones, have the exactly same type of screws !!

You can ask for them at tech service (at your cellular company), in my
case, i bought a broken nokia 2160, for $10, and it has a lot of screws
inside !! :)

It has also, the rubber bottoms, (same as the 100/200)



Martin
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I have just began to follow this thread.  With regards to the player
someone said is located on the SUPER site (sorry, no internet access
here) what type(s) of files will it replay?  The reason I ask is, I have
some of those movies-on-CD (.avi) and was wondering if the player would
replay an .avi file.

Phil

>
>I would really like to see something on this line... Maybe one of the
>luckier of us with a digitizer could capture a sitcom (like
>"sienfield') and convert it to eva format and tell us how it would
>look?
>
>        -James


On a completely off-post topic, why does MS's spell checker keep trying
to capitalize the word 'internet'.  I don't think the word 'toster' or
'automoble' or 'dog' should be cap'ed, so what gives?

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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Comments: cc: bjensen@PSA.PENCOM.COM

On 1997-11-25 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Hopefully this isn't getting too far from HP content, but Agenda
 HP>seems to run OK under DosEMU under Linux.  I haven't tested it
 HP>extensively, but this is a major plus for those of us who are
 HP>considering using Agenda on the LX and use Linux as our primary
 HP>desktop. -Brian

My question concerns the Linux which is regularly mentioned by several
participants of this list.
I know CPM, DOS I have heard of Unix (on main frames I believe?) but what is
Linux. Desktop? is it something as Deskview?


*no electrons were harmed in the posting of this message*

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On 1997-11-22 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Ages ago there was a discussion on using MATLAB on the palmtop,
<snip>
 HP>"This Palmtop is 100% Solar Powered"
 HP>--------------------------------------------
How did you get your Palmtop 100% Solar Powered?


Abandon the search for truth; settle on a good fantasy!

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I've noticed that when I charge the batteries on my 200LX, the backup
battery voltage climbs as well.  Recently I've been charging my
batteries a lot.  Before this my backup battery was around 2.94-2.96
volts.  Now, when I'm charging, it's around 2.99-3.03 volts, but when I
stop charging, it drops to 2.88-2.9 volts or so.  Is this voltage drop a
result of the battery charging?  Does anyone know if it damages the
backup battery?

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:51:32 -0600
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Sense I began using Battlog, I have also noticed that the backup battery
is not "static".  I can't even begin to believe that HP would allow
reverse current to the Li cell, so the backup battery must be
contributing to the power needs of the palmtop _during_ operation and
not just lurking around waiting for the main cells to fail.

my two bits.
Phil

>----------
>From:  David SargeantÝSMTP:davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:36 PM
>Subject:       Charging backup battery?
>
>I've noticed that when I charge the batteries on my 200LX, the backup
>battery voltage climbs as well.  Recently I've been charging my
>batteries a lot.  Before this my backup battery was around 2.94-2.96
>volts.  Now, when I'm charging, it's around 2.99-3.03 volts, but when I
>stop charging, it drops to 2.88-2.9 volts or so.  Is this voltage drop a
>result of the battery charging?  Does anyone know if it damages the
>backup battery?
>

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> >     Hi!
> >     I did not keep the text not because I did not like it, on the contrary
> >     I loved it. I am also a HP employee and I have said it many time HP
> >     today is not what HP was when Packard ran the company. He would never
> >     have put up with what is going on today. But I guess times change and
> >     so does HP. But I believe you spoke the truth, THANKS.
> >
> >
> >     Helmut in Colorado
> >
> Hi Helmut!
>
> Thanks! Yes, unfortunately any serious company has to adapt to the fast
> changes in the PC industry and going with Microsoft WIndows is what the
> majority of the endusers want. This partnership with the Giant change much
> of conventional thinking. But on the other hand- it will give the Majority
> what they want.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
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Yes, well this is what I commonly refer to as "Corperite Inertia".
Microsoft, unfortuately, has gathered a huge amount of this Inertia
since it was started and now(In the past 5yrs at least)  it has
dragged some major hardware and many major software manufacturors
along with it.  I predict (of course you can't believe anything
anyone predicts if it's relating to computers, but) several years
(decades?) down the line when Microsoft hits the wall it's carreening
toward (this is all speeking figuratively of course) it, and all
other companies following it, will crash (and create a rather
pleasent splat for microsoft haters to look at :).  The reason the
majority likes microsoft products is because it gives people the
power over their new toys without requireing much learning,
effectivly dumming up the population in relation to computers.

whew!, ok feal free to gladly delete this rant, I just had to get
that off my chest.
(send all spam, flames and other unnice-it-ty's to
BillGates@Microsoft. com (or something like that)):)

        -James

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:13:44 +1300
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David Eggins wrote:
>
>    Hello All,
>
>    Sorry about the delay with this, but I have finally uploaded a
>    country database to Murrays HPLX database site.
>
>    http://www.iinet.net.au/_muzza/hp_db.html (broken)

use this:  http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hp_db.html to get to Murrays
*.GDB database. The entry is:

cntry.zip (24k) added 24/11/97
Created by David Eggins
country name in English, two character ISO code, 3 character ISO code,
3 digit ISO code, 3 character currency code, currency name in English.

(I got a "Cant find file" message here when clicking cntry.zip)
>
>    The file is called cntry.zip.

Murrays database is FTP-able from:
ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/users/hplx/
-also get "cant find file" here for cntry.zip although it is listed.

HELP!!

John
NZ

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:30:28 -0800
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As per Phil's ( Phil DrummondÝSMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨)
response, I sent my 200LX to Thaddeus for a 2x & 8 meg upgrade on Thurs
Nov 05.
I had it returned from Thaddeus on Fri Nov 14.  The basic unit seemed to
work.  However, when I tried to use my ACE 20 meg (40 with staker) card,
I ended up with double/blurred display images.  Following the Thaddeus
and other enclosed literature instructions, I eventually ended up with a
frozen display.  ALT/CTR/DEL didn't work at all.  I finally removed all
the batteries.  The screen never came back, even using an external power
(HP)  supply.

Talking with Thaddeus on Monday 11/17, they said there were a few "bad
upgrade chips" in the system.  I'm still waiting for my returned unit.
(FEDEX out last Monday afternoon 11/17, no return by Tues 11/25 (now).
I had bought a 2 yr warrenty.  I haven't had the use of my LX for over
20 days and that SUX.  I have my whole mind in there.

Besides the upgrade problem, has anyone had a problem with an ACE card
and the double speed upgrade?
 I use WP 5.1 on the card, will WP 6.0 work (size etc)?
Thanks   John

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This brings up one advantage of using software like Lotus Agenda (and others) to organize everything.

If your 200LX is lost/stolen/broke, and if you backup your data files onto a desktop/laptop regularly, you
have the functionality of your 200LX (expect for portability) until you repair/replace the unit.

--- On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:30:28 -0800  "Leguillou, John" <LEGUIJO@MAIL.NORTHGRUM.COM> wrote:

I haven't had the use of my LX for over
>20 days and that SUX.  I have my whole mind in there.

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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/25/97 5:15:07 PM EST
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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> I know CPM, DOS I have heard of Unix (on main frames I believe?) but what is
> Linux. Desktop? is it something as Deskview?
Linux is a shareware version of unix that will run on your home PC.  I
believe it has about 55,000 users world wide and it a good product if
difficult to install (it is unix).  I have not got a url to a good site
but I have been told that there are links from the Sun site.  It can
also be called 'Red Hat'.

bye,
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I am using the Memo application to write in French. I have to use=20
accents (=E9, =E8, =E0 etc...). Unfortunately, even though they appear on=
 the=20
screen (for =E8, type Fn e), when I try to import the text (via=20
kermit) into a regular word processor (say Word 7.0), I lose the=20
accents.=20

Any idea how to do that ?

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Diet may have some appeal in this setting, it compresses files,
not drives. Compressing  file(s) is done from the command line (once
per file). Then, use the 24K device driver and it will uncompress/recompress
files automatically. Also safer as if you loose one file, you don't loose the
whole drive.

Jaime Viehweg wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 08:24:06AM -0500, Donald Davies wrote:
> > Adding to Bill's comments below:
> >     I just added JAM to my 2 flash cards.  I have to reboot when I
> > switch cards for the machine recognize the new drive.
> >
> > Don Davies
> >
> > >>> childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> 11/24/97 09:15pm >>>
> >> Stacker works great with either.  I run Stacker on 2 of my 10MB flash
> >> cards, but not on my 2NB SRAM card, or my other 5MB flash.  Reads/Writes
> >> to the non-stacked cards are transparent.  I just swap cards and I'm on
> >> my way.  I believe that JAM has trouble with removable media, which is
> >> why I've stuck with Stacker.
>
> I have had no problems with JAM and removable media.  All you have to
> do is unmount the drive, turn off your HP, switch cards, turn it back
> on, and mount the new one.
>
> Assuming a flash card on a: and a mounted jam drive on f:, try the
> following:
>
> c:\> jmount f: /d
> JMOUNT 1.25 Copyright (c) JAM Software. 1992-1995. All rights reserved.
>
> JAM drive F: unmounted.
>
> <off>
> <switch>
> <on>
> c:\> jmount a:\honker
> JMOUNT 1.25 Copyright (c) JAM Software. 1992-1995. All rights reserved.
>
> JAM file A:\HONKER.JAM mounted as drive F:
>
> c:\>
>
> Of course, it helps if you name all your JAM files the same...  Make a
> batch file to unmount it and mount it and you are all done.
>
> I do this sort of procedure when I switch to my modem.  I don't want
> my 19MB jam file to get corrupted!  Too many important games...er...
> work related files in there!
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:11:00 -0500
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              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: DOS Handhelds "Super Palmtop" vs 100/200LX
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OM>But Jim, you did buy the real "super Palmtop"!<g>

Yep, and I guess I have DAK to thank for it!  At the time, I only had a
vague awareness of the 95LX and had never heard of the 100LX.  When I
saw them both at the store side by side, I figured the 100LX was the
newer and more capable, so made my choice!

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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EL>Did anyone install the program and could help me to get it going ?
  >I am looking for an "x00 fossil" driver (don't know what it is at
  >all) and the appropriate setup for it.
  >It would be great to run the program under Windows but a DOS solution
  >is sufficient too.

     If you can't find it elsewhere, the fossil driver X00 is available
for download from AirPower BBS.  The filename is x00153a.zip

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:46:51 +1100
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Subject:      palm video (was: HDD on HPLX)
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              97 04:12:15 pm
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> I would really like to see something on this line... Maybe one of the
> luckier of us with a digitizer could capture a sitcom (like
> "sienfield') and convert it to eva format and tell us how it would
> look?
Oddly enough, I suggested this a while back, and my example also was
"seinfeld"!

But there was no response, and I haven't been able to find *any* other
eva files, apart from the two on SUPER .. I guess the conversion is
not trivial.

OTOH, Seinfeld is copyrighted, and while no one seems to mind video
taping it at home, distributing it on the net might be viewed differently.

OTOOH, a snippet of it would surely classify closely enough as under
the 'fair use' exception. But let's not get an everlasting copyright
thread again!

ARE there any other eva examples?


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     Hi!
     I have four (4) Flash cards three (3) 20mb and one 6mb all stacked
     using stacker that came with them.
     I turn of the Palmtop remove the flash card insert the one I want turn
     on the Palmtop there is my files no problem


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-jviehweg (jviehweg@LUCENT.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/25/97 7:36 AM


On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 08:24:06AM -0500, Donald Davies wrote:
> Adding to Bill's comments below:
>     I just added JAM to my 2 flash cards.  I have to reboot when I
> switch cards for the machine recognize the new drive.
>
> Don Davies
>
> >>> childers <childers@GARLIC.COM> 11/24/97 09:15pm >>>
>> Stacker works great with either.  I run Stacker on 2 of my 10MB flash
>> cards, but not on my 2NB SRAM card, or my other 5MB flash.  Reads/Writes
>> to the non-stacked cards are transparent.  I just swap cards and I'm on
>> my way.  I believe that JAM has trouble with removable media, which is
>> why I've stuck with Stacker.

I have had no problems with JAM and removable media.  All you have to
do is unmount the drive, turn off your HP, switch cards, turn it back
on, and mount the new one.

Assuming a flash card on a: and a mounted jam drive on f:, try the
following:

c:\> jmount f: /d
JMOUNT 1.25 Copyright (c) JAM Software. 1992-1995. All rights reserved.

JAM drive F: unmounted.

<off>
<switch>
<on>
c:\> jmount a:\honker
JMOUNT 1.25 Copyright (c) JAM Software. 1992-1995. All rights reserved.

JAM file A:\HONKER.JAM mounted as drive F:

c:\>

Of course, it helps if you name all your JAM files the same...  Make a
batch file to unmount it and mount it and you are all done.

I do this sort of procedure when I switch to my modem.  I don't want
my 19MB jam file to get corrupted!  Too many important games...er...
work related files in there!

jaime
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Subject:      Re: Country Database
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> (I got a "Cant find file" message here when clicking cntry.zip)
>>
>>    The file is called cntry.zip.
>
> Murrays database is FTP-able from:
> ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/users/hplx/
> -also get "cant find file" here for cntry.zip although it is listed.
>

chmod 644 cntry.zip :-)

sorry about the trouble, it should work now...
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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:01:14 -0500
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At 06:19 PM 25/11/97 +0100, Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>Hi:
>
>Is anybody out there maintaining a list of working PCMCIA devices on the
>200LX ?
>
<snip>

Further to this, I would like to know if anyone has succesfully used a:
        National Instruments DAQCard 700=20
for analogue to digital data collection, on a HP200LX (or any other
portable, for that matter!)

Any information greatly appreciated. TIA.

Doric
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Hi to the Mailing List,

Following a previous posting of mine on batteries acquired from Mack
Baggette (with apologies for the mis-spelling on that occasion), this
is just to let you know that the new NiMH batteries appear to be going
great.  They do seem to loose power fairly constantly, or more
correctly the voltage drop is fairly even under constant conditions
such as consistent word processing, though this does speed up a bit
towards the end of battery life.  This is not quite what I expected
from the description given by David Sargeant, though I have not
plotted a graph to clarify matters.

This sort of behaviour may appear to be a disadvantage over NiCads
(which maintain a relatively high voltage almost to the end then die
quickly) but it has not affected performance and it is easier to
predict active life this way.  It also looks as if you can mix fast
and slow charging rates. The only aspect which has yet to be
established is how well they preserve their charge on the shelf.  They
may not be holding their own, so to speak, against all others; but so
far at least, I am very pleased with them.

They will be of particular advantage for use in my wife's pocket
tape-recorder.  It is sometimes a problem when she tells me that the
batteries are probably half used-up and she is about to go to a long
meeting.  If we leave the batteries in the recorder, then she may have
to make two battery changes during the session (so far we've only had
600 mAh NiCads) and if I take them out I have to discharge them in
order to recharge them fully again.  It can take a bit of time and
every extra cycle uses a small part of their life.

I believe that research is still going on regarding the development of
rechargeable AA-size lithium batteries.

BTW, I have just discovered that you can get a new 200LX-8Mb
Double-Speed Palmtop from Thaddeus -- they now do new Palmtop upgrades
as well as reconditioned units.  There will be a flier in the next
edition of the Palmtop Paper.  It is quite remarkable that my old
100LX still has the original backup battery cell in it and it measures
2.99 volts.  It's definitely a current wonder.  Is this a record?
More to the point, any offers for it (the battery, not the 100LX)?

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX (at last!)

PS. Since I wrote this, several users in the HPLX Mailing List have
queried whether in fact the backup battery is capable of taking up a
presumably limited recharge.  This has crossed my mind, too,
especially as it has fluctuated slightly as reported, though it is
supposed to be dangerous to recharge lithium batteries that are not
designed as such. BC.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:25:49 -0800
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The conversion isn't too bad... When I get home, I'll tinker with it again,
and let U know how to do it.


Bill


>But there was no response, and I haven't been able to find *any* other
>eva files, apart from the two on SUPER .. I guess the conversion is
>not trivial.

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I have an HP200LX with 2X speed, 4 Megs of RAM and an ACE doublecard
(stacked)
to 20 Meg. I am using Battman.exe that came with my ACE card and
ni-cads.

Lately, my HP gives almost no warning before shutting off. To make
matters worse,
after turining the HP back on, it reboots, losing everything on C:

There were a few times that it would NOT turn on, even after replacing
the main batteries. I had to hold CTRL/SHIFT ON to even get going again.

Since I try to avoid this procedure, I don't remember, but thought that
I
should be asked about initializing c:. This did not occur.

I put in a new backup battery (the old one was reading 2.6 - 2.8 volts.
- more
than my main batteries frequently). The last time it cycled and main
batteries
replaced, the HP still rebooted, but didn't lose data on C:.

The backup battery must have been too low previously.

The question is:

Shouldn't battman warn of low voltage BEFORE it is so low that the
computer quits?

I can't find any option to set or change the low voltage warning.

Does ABCLX (or whatever it is called) give better warning/management?

I charge the batteries externally and can change sooner if warned.

Any other experience would be appreciated.

Bob

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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:25:53 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:15:15 +1100
>From:    David Johnson <david.johnson@FORMIDA.COM>
>Subject: Re: ÝAGENDA¨ runs under Linux
>
>Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>> I know CPM, DOS I have heard of Unix (on main frames I believe?) but what is
>> Linux. Desktop? is it something as Deskview?
>Linux is a shareware version of unix that will run on your home PC.

No, *freeware*, free, free, open source code, no cost, free !

>believe it has about 55,000 users world wide

I think that's a *very* low estimate.

For more info see http://www.li.org/ , http://www.ssc.com/linux/ , or browse
http://www.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Operating_Systems/Unix/Linux/

'nuf said.

-Peter

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:25:41 +0500
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:25:53 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:22:22 +0800
>From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>

>Thanks! Yes, unfortunately any serious company has to adapt to the fast
>changes in the PC industry and going with Microsoft WIndows is what the
>majority of the endusers want.

No, from most reports the Pilot group is _much_ bigger than the CE group.
only 100,000 CE compared to 1,000,000 Pilot devices...

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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> >I haven't been able to find *any* other
> >eva files, apart from the two on SUPER .. I guess the conversion is
> >not trivial.

> The conversion isn't too bad... When I get home, I'll tinker with it again,
> and let U know how to do it.

If anyone has *any* eva files already converted, it would be really cool
to make them available in some way.


One trick to avoid the copyright issue was used by a game company here in
Melbourne. In their prospectus, they used an *advertisement* as their
example video! I'm sure the Coca-cola company didn't mind a bit of free
extra advertising!!

An example: various British airways ads are always interesting. But, I mean,
you have to like ads (which I do).


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Subject:      Re: Stacker question
Comments: To: mikemary@mcipnet.com

it is not all or none for stacker! i have a mix od stacrer 4 and unstacked.
they alternate invisibly to the user.

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:08:43 -0600
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              Mayfield Harris <mharris@RICE.EDU>
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Can anyone suggest a good rechargeable battery for the HP200LX that will
last at least 20 hours..................

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:57:45 -0500
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Comments: To: mharris@rice.edu

I was in Radio Shack yesterday. I looked, and beheld, 1.2amp/hour AA cells.
They were abou $10.00 a pair. They were not NI-Cads, however. Will
rechargeable lithiums recharge proprlt/safely in the HPLX machines?????

Thanks,
Dennis

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Kiyoshi Akima wrote:
>
> I realize this is slightly off-topic, but I don't know where else
> to go with this.
> Are there any free/inexpensive connectivity sofware available for
> getting data to/from the HP OmniGo 100/120 machines? Either for the
> desktop or the 200LX?   > Kiyoshi Akima

Hi
If the list can't answer, try Max at his Omnigo site:
http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/

John
NZ

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I believe these batteries that you saw at Radio Shack are not Lithium but
in fact are NiMH batteries which will charge and run just fine in the LX.
I purchased my NiMH's from a local battery rebuilder that rebuilds all
types of rechargeable battery packs for radios, tools, etc.. The only
modification I had to make to my batteries was placing a bead of solder
on the positive end of the batteries so they would make contact in the
battery compartment. These particular batteries were deigned to have
solder tabs for battery packs. They are 1100 mAh batteries and I gave
$4.00 each for them. Good luck with your battery requirements. By the
way, the name of the store where I purchased my batteries was Batteries
Plus and I believe it is a franchise with other stores throughout the
country.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 Class3Dep@AOL.COM wrote:

> I was in Radio Shack yesterday. I looked, and beheld, 1.2amp/hour AA cells.
> They were abou $10.00 a pair. They were not NI-Cads, however. Will
> rechargeable lithiums recharge proprlt/safely in the HPLX machines?????
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
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Leguillou, John wrote:
>
> I sent my 200LX to Thaddeus for a 2x & 8 meg upgrade on Thurs Nov 05.
> I had it returned from Thaddeus on Fri Nov 14.  The basic unit seemed to
> work.  However, when I tried to use my ACE 20 meg (40 with staker) card,
> I ended up with double/blurred display images.  <snip>
>
> Besides the upgrade problem, has anyone had a problem with an ACE card
> and the double speed upgrade?
> Thanks   John

Hi
Mack at Times2tech has a mention on his upgrade web page about problems
with the ACE Stacked cards:  http://www.times2tech.com/

Heres what it says:
...Lastly a special driver ACECARD.COM used by ACE(tm) DoubleFlash+
card users will not work with the Speed Upgrade. If you eliminate the
ACECARD.COM driver from your CONFIG.SYS the card can be accessed fine.
ACE did create a new version of the ACECARD.COM driver that works with
the speed upgrade. The main thing that you lose by not running the
ACECARD.COM driver is low battery protection during writes to the
flashcard.

Hope that is of some help

John
NZ

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: But there was no response, and I haven't been able to find *any* other
: eva files, apart from the two on SUPER .. I guess the conversion is
: not trivial.

Sure it is, if you have Microsoft's VidEdit (available nowhere but from
me, if I can still find it) and A2E.

: OTOH, Seinfeld is copyrighted, and while no one seems to mind video
: taping it at home, distributing it on the net might be viewed differently.

Chances are NBC or whomever would be very not happy if you
gave their shows to the world, unless you kept the commercials in.
If you kept the commercials, it wouldn't probably matter less to them.

: ARE there any other eva examples?

Why yes there are.  Back in the old days before my palmtop
got stolen |:(, I was messing around with eva.  I had, from
some CD or another, found the Microsoft AVI editor for
Win 3.1.  It let you set all the parameters for speed, snd
quality, video size, etc. and did a pretty nice job.  This link:
        http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/snow.eva
is MS's sample AVI file, converted to eva.  Sorry, no FTP,
you'll have to figure out how to get it on your own, and I
don't have any links on my homepage either.  This link will
become active in maybe 5 minutes when I get it copied from
my other computer and onto the server.

Hey, and drop me a note if you like it, I may have to put
Windows back on my computer to run the video editor.
God forbid. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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that you were liberal back when it was legal to be one."
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: I have just began to follow this thread.  With regards to the player
: someone said is located on the SUPER site (sorry, no internet access
: here) what type(s) of files will it replay?

It only replays its own .EVA files, which is apparently some sort of
audio-video interleave like Video for Windows was.  I don't know the
specifics but it's optimized for lower-quality displays and sound setups,
namely the 200LX palmtop.

: The reason I ask is, I have
: some of those movies-on-CD (.avi) and was wondering if the player would
: replay an .avi file.

It will, indirectly.  Get Microsoft VidEdit from somewhere (don't know
if its available anymore, I got it on a game CD) and A2E from SUPER.
Read up on what A2E will convert, and then use VidEdit to convert
the movies to something A2E can read.  Then A2E will convert the
movies to something eva can read.  Then play them with eva and see
how they look.  It takes lots of experimentation.

: On a completely off-post topic, why does MS's spell checker keep trying
: to capitalize the word 'internet'.  I don't think the word 'toster' or
: 'automoble' or 'dog' should be cap'ed, so what gives?

Because to Microsoft, the internet is a Good Thing. ;)  If it decided
toasters were a Good Thing, we'd be calling them Toasters.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:21:07 -0600
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I was presently surprised at a new use for my HP200LX.  I loaded the
(pure DOS based) X-10 Home Automation System to control lights and
switches.  Loaded trouble-free and is completely plug-compatible.
Radio-Shack sells similar software.

Les

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Date:         Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:48:29 -0800
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Barry COLLINS wrote:

> Following a previous posting of mine on batteries acquired from Mack
> Baggette (with apologies for the mis-spelling on that occasion), this
> is just to let you know that the new NiMH batteries appear to be going
> great.  They do seem to loose power fairly constantly, or more
> correctly the voltage drop is fairly even under constant conditions
> such as consistent word processing, though this does speed up a bit
> towards the end of battery life.  This is not quite what I expected
> from the description given by David Sargeant, though I have not
> plotted a graph to clarify matters.

In my tests, the battery usually dropped to about 2.75 volts after chargin
stopped.  From there it dropped rapidly down to about 2.5 volts, where it
slowly moved to 2.4 volts.  Most of the life was spent between 2.35-2.42
volts.  After that, it went to 2.3 and I got the "low battery" warnings.
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:27:42 -0600, Phil Drummond wrote:

>On a completely off-post topic, why does MS's spell checker keep trying
>to capitalize the word 'internet'.  I don't think the word 'toster' or
>'automoble' or 'dog' should be cap'ed, so what gives?

Because Internet is a proper noun (a name), and should therefore be
capitalised. Your other examples are all ordinary nouns.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:43:50 +1000
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On 27 xxx -1, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> How did you get your Palmtop 100% Solar Powered?
>
It was simple really, 150 watts of solar panels, and 110 kilograms of
batteries, a high current regulator, and a 12volt dc jack attached to the
batteries (and the rest of my house!)
8-)

Peter Scarth.

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> : I have just began to follow this thread.  With regards to the player
> : someone said is located on the SUPER site (sorry, no internet access
> : here) what type(s) of files will it replay?

You might also be interested in eva5fmt.zip by Digiyama. It is a file
describing the EVA5 format. Also on SUPER...

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:40:57 -0600
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On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 01:37:33PM -0400, B Wills wrote:
> Hmm, wondering ..
>
> I just took out my JAMmed 12mb card, making sure I was at the topcard
> display, then popped in an unJAMmed 5 mb card.  I hooked up to my PC
> using Transfile and got an error message when it tried to read drive
> F:, but when I selected A:, everything ran fine.  Took out the 5mb
> and put the 12 back in, no problems.  Does unmounting only come into
> play when you are swapping 2 JAMmed cards?
>
> > I have had no problems with JAM and removable media.  All you have
> > to do is unmount the drive, turn off your HP, switch cards, turn it
> > back on, and mount the new one.

Being a suspicious, cranky, system administrator type person, I don't
trust anything!  If it works fine without unmounting it, great.  But
I don't like messing with the "file system".  I've been burned too
many times.  It doesn't really take very long to unmount it first so
I just do it.  Granted, I don't do that very often so if you are likely
to change cards a lot, perhaps it would become a problem.

jaime
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:51:51 -0000
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I pur the Xircom CE2-PS in my HP200LX and it needed a hard reboot....if
you look in the manuals, most Ethernet PCMCIA cards are rated at 300mA
so no surprise there.  I've not tried on mains, until I get more RAM I
have no space for the drivers so no need to go further.

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:55:14 -0000
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I think you may want to change your Kermit.  The built-in one is old
now.  Kermit 3.14 I have somewhere and it is loaded with character set
handling - includes hebrew and cyrillic...I suggest you visit the
Columbia web site.

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/

William D.Ll.Brown

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Subject:      Re: palm video (was: HDD on HPLX)
In-Reply-To:  <199711260235.NAA16835@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> from "Brendan
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Hi,

I have two BMW Z3 ads in eva-format. They are running great on the HP,
even single speeded. Both are around 300k. If someone is interested,
give me a note.

Jens



>
> > >I haven't been able to find *any* other
> > >eva files, apart from the two on SUPER .. I guess the conversion is
> > >not trivial.
>
> > The conversion isn't too bad... When I get home, I'll tinker with it again,
> > and let U know how to do it.
>
> If anyone has *any* eva files already converted, it would be really cool
> to make them available in some way.
>
>
> One trick to avoid the copyright issue was used by a game company here in
> Melbourne. In their prospectus, they used an *advertisement* as their
> example video! I'm sure the Coca-cola company didn't mind a bit of free
> extra advertising!!
>
> An example: various British airways ads are always interesting. But, I mean,
> you have to like ads (which I do).
>
>
> --
> bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
> "What is bought with money or with goods is purchased by labour as much
> as what we acquire by the toil of our own body."
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:29:48 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Can someone help me with the commands in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS that
automatically load Stacker V4.0?  I have a 5 meg card stacked okay, but
cannot get it to auto-load.  And, while I'm asking, where are the proper
places to put these commands (where in relation to the PATH statement, etc.)?

THANKS!

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:34:51 -0500
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>I have two BMW Z3 ads in eva-format. They are running great on the HP,
>even single speeded. Both are around 300k. If someone is interested,
>give me a note.

I will post any EVA files to the SUPER site. If you want to contribute, just
drop them into:

ftp://ftp.palmtop.net/incoming

You will not see the files in the directory after you upload, but they will
be there.

Drop me an email to say they are there and give me a short description. A
screen capture would be a bonus.

Mitch

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I am considering setting up a web site for users of Lotus Agenda and Symantec ACT!, including users of HP
palmtops that run this software.

Since both of these products provide PIM functions, they are fairly complementary.

I am thinking that this site would provide info and links addressing:
  - Technical issues on using the software
  - Using the software to address personal and business issues
  - Propmote/support e-mail list (see below)

Before I set-up such a web site, I would appreciate feedback on the following:
  - Who is interested in such a web site?
       - I'm looking for numbers to justify the effort
  - Suggestions on web site mission
  - Suggestions on web site content
  - Should the web site primarily be text based, or should there be the typical use of graphics?

Also, I am thinking about setting up an e-mail list for Agenda and ACT! users.  Who would be interested in
subscribing to such a list?  Again, I'm looking for numbers to justify the effort.  I already have about 10
ACT! users who are interested in such a list.

Please send responses to the address below.

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Michael
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/26/97 11:12:42 AM EST
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:54:58 -0500
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I use 1100mAh NiMHydrides from Ace and they last about 20h. Ace is out =
of business but I think Radio Shack sells something equivalent. You need =
something like Battman or ABCLX to deal with NiMHs. You also need to =
re-charge them harder than and longer than NiCads.....16h at 100mA will =
do it.

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Sent:  25-Nov-97 22:09
To:  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:  Good Rechargeable Batteries

Can anyone suggest a good rechargeable battery for the HP200LX that will
last at least 20 hours..................

--


Mayfield Harris
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Rice University
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Phone: 713-527-4642   Fax: 713-527-6009
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Can someone tell me what the mA charging rate on the 200LX is. I need to
know both the rapid and slow charge rates are. Thanks in advance!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http:\\www.bham.net\jcsd


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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:08:41 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzotto@SWISSONLINE.CH>
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> of conventional thinking. But on the other hand- it will give the =
Majority
> what they want.

I am not so sure if it is what they really want. I would rather
consider it the same way people in a communist country have what they
"want": they do not see any better variant because everybody has just
that single variant and everybody tells them it is what they "want". I
am quite sure that most people would rather "want" a fast,
not-constantly-crashing system that does not run out of memory all the
time. But since everybody says MS products are great and since all
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for
years) people live in the illusion they have what they "want".

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:19:42 +0100
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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      Re: List of PCMCIA devices working on the 200LX
Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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>I pur the Xircom CE2-PS in my HP200LX and it needed a hard reboot....if
>you look in the manuals, most Ethernet PCMCIA cards are rated at 300mA
>so no surprise there.  I've not tried on mains, until I get more RAM I
>have no space for the drivers so no need to go further.

According to the specs of my Xircom CreditCard Ethernet adapter (model
PS-CE2-10BT), typical consumption is 85mA, 100mA max (the 10B2 model is
300mA max). So, it should be able to work in the 200LX. No resets when I
plug it in.

But the problem is the card & socket services. Drivers provided need v2.x,
and, as many listee already know, the 200LX doesn't support it. I think
that it's not even possible under system manager since no memory windows
can be allocated (all are in use by the system manager).

Anyway, I think that the way to go is to program a point enabler. Once the
adapter is configured at an IO address and IRQ, everything should work. I'm
on this way now, getting as much information as I can from the linux PCMCIA
package.

I'll report about my results.

Regards. Nacho.

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They 100 mA and 45 mA (after 6 hours)

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Sent:  26-Nov-97 13:04
To:  HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:  Charging mA???

Can someone tell me what the mA charging rate on the 200LX is. I need to
know both the rapid and slow charge rates are. Thanks in advance!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http:\\www.bham.net\jcsd


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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:04:49 +1300
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Jeff wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me what the mA charging rate on the 200LX is. I need to
> know both the rapid and slow charge rates are. Thanks in advance!
>
Hi
My HP200LX (green cover) Manual has on page B-5 a little chart marked
HP100LX Continuous Charge Rates (assume they didnt change the title
as the figures are the same for 100>200)
-The first 6 hours=100mA
-after 6 hrs=45mA

hope that helps
Cheers
John
NZ

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:48:43 -0500
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              Brian Girling <girling@ICA.NET>
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Hi there -

Does anyone on the list use a Kodak Diconix 150 Plus ink jet printer
with their 100/200?

What sort of life do you get from the cartridges?  I think that it takes
a standard HP cartridge HP 51604A.

Brian
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:11:38 -0700
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              HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
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     Hi!
     Yes I do and the life of that cartridge is looooong. I have used that
     printer for most of the year with the same cartridge. Good Stuff.

     Helmut in Colorado

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:21:00 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Web Site & List for Agenda and ACT! Users
Comments: To: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com

Michael,
I kinda got in late on the Agenda thing, but I would very much like the site
if you put it up. I've been shying away because of my inexperience and the
lack of support.

Dennis

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:43:38 -0700
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     Hi!
     Same here. sure would be nice to have one.

     Helmut in Colorado



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Michael,
I kinda got in late on the Agenda thing, but I would very much like the site
if you put it up. I've been shying away because of my inexperience and the
lack of support.

Dennis

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:41:07 -0800
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Does anyone have any information on network cards that will work with a
200lx?  I would like to use mine as a network analyzer.  Nothing
elaborate, just to detect the presence of a network.

Thanks
Raymond Sue

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:58:42 -0500
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              David Kramer <Dskramer@CONCENTRIC.NET>
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On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Leslie Cohn wrote:
> I was presently surprised at a new use for my HP200LX.  I loaded the
> (pure DOS based) X-10 Home Automation System to control lights and
> switches.  Loaded trouble-free and is completely plug-compatible.
> Radio-Shack sells similar software.

I do a lot of X10.  What hardware/software did you use?  The CP290?


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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:57:59 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Kodak Diconix 150 Plus printer

Brian

I used a Kodak Diconix 300w for several years.  The 150 plus should give
about the same quality and number of pages - same cartridge.  It seemed to
run out of ink pretty quickly when I was printing graphics with lots of ink
coverage -probably 50- 75 pages.  For mostly text you should get 4 or 5
times that.  I think the specs say 250 sheets with 5% ink coverage, but I
could be wrong.

The cart is the same as HP Thinkjet - the one with the rubber bladder about
the size of a thimble.  I refilled them with ink several times before
discarding them.  I used hot glue to reseal them - I imagine the refill
kits come with rubber stoppers now.

The output was GREAT for the time 150x150 dpi - not real impressive next to
the current crop of ink jets.  But it should be a good traveling companion
to the palmtop -

Mike


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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Kodak Diconix 150 Plus printer

Hi there -

Does anyone on the list use a Kodak Diconix 150 Plus ink jet printer
with their 100/200?

What sort of life do you get from the cartridges?  I think that it takes
a standard HP cartridge HP 51604A.

Brian
--
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Hi Jens,

> I have two BMW Z3 ads in eva-format. They are running great on the HP,
> even single speeded. Both are around 300k. If someone is interested,
> give me a note.

That would be cool!

Here's my email:

bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan

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Add me to the list of folks who would like to see the BMW adds :)


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
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Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:54:30 -0800
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              Lawrence Fast/Musqueam Reserve/Ca <lrfast1@MAIL.BC.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Subject:      Re: Web Site & List for Agenda and ACT! Users
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Michael,

I would be a most appreciative user of your proposed list for Agenda and
Act!.  There are a lot of Agenda users lurking out here and we could
certainly use a good source for support.  There are a number of users of
the Agenda/Magellan forum on CompuServe that would probably also like to
join.

Like you, I was somewhat surprised at the number of people who responded to
the Agenda message that I first posted a couple of weeks ago.  There are
also people who are members of the NYPC users group, PIM subsection that
would likely also be interested.  I have taken the liberty of sending a
copy of this message to someone who is very active in that group.

I find it interesting that one of the major sources of interest for Agenda
are users of the HP 200LX Palmtop.  Clearly immediate access is an
important issue for users of complex PIMs like Agenda and ACT!.  If the DOS
emulator now under development for Window CE is fast and effective, there
might be another whole group of users for ACT and/or Agenda that would be
interested in your proposed list.

Indeed, it might be worthwhile considering expanding your list to include
other PIMs to bring in everyone who is interested in this type of
application.

Good luck and best wishes,

Lawrence Fast




mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM> on 11/26/97 08:26:44 AM
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Subject:        Web Site & List for Agenda and ACT! Users

I am considering setting up a web site for users of Lotus Agenda and
Symantec ACT!, including users of HP
palmtops that run this software.

Since both of these products provide PIM functions, they are fairly
complementary.

I am thinking that this site would provide info and links addressing:
  - Technical issues on using the software
  - Using the software to address personal and business issues
  - Propmote/support e-mail list (see below)

Before I set-up such a web site, I would appreciate feedback on the
following:
  - Who is interested in such a web site?
       - I'm looking for numbers to justify the effort
  - Suggestions on web site mission
  - Suggestions on web site content
  - Should the web site primarily be text based, or should there be the
typical use of graphics?

Also, I am thinking about setting up an e-mail list for Agenda and ACT!
users.  Who would be interested in
subscribing to such a list?  Again, I'm looking for numbers to justify the
effort.  I already have about 10
ACT! users who are interested in such a list.

Please send responses to the address below.

Thanks,
Michael
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           11/26/97 11:12:42 AM EST
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:54:20 -0500
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Hi Michael and group,

I would be interested in both lists, but especially Agenda.  I have used
Agenda on a pretty much daily basis for about 7 years and still only use
about 25% of its capabilities.  Lotus Agenda and Managing Your Money are
primarily I purchased my  HP200LX 3 years ago instead of a lesser Sharp or
Boss (which I've also owned).  Agenda is the best information manager ever!
 I'm looking forward to getting my 2x 8mb upgrade back from Thaddeus on
Friday.

I feel I have a lot to contribute to the Agenda group.  If I can only find
the time!  Maybe this long weekend.

David Runge

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:09:57 +0000
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> Hi James:
>
>         On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:33:16, You wrote:
>
> > I subscribed to this list over a web site and I marked the
> > digest
> > option when I subscribed... I'm getting individual messages and
> > It's
> > getting very confusing...
>
> Oops, Sorry :-(
>
>         Should be fixed now.
>
> Cheers,
> *       ____           __      _     __    _         __
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:24:58 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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Thanks for your message , but what are filing boxes for questions?
I can easily modify Mastery to include new features, but I need
a statement of your requirements.  Mastery is version 1.0
and I am open to suggestions.

ÝFor those of your who don't know, MASTERY is a DOS program
designed to help you master any subject.  You create your
own self-study questions and answers and Mastery will drill
you in a systematic way until you master the material.¨



At 10:45 AM 11/21/97 +0000, you wrote:
>I lost the EMail of the one who sent the program to me...
>
>Thanks for sending it but it lacks features that are essential for
>me, e.g. filing boxes for questions.
>
>Regards,
>Christof
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:46:05 -0600
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David,

It is the Home Automation Interface CP290 (RS-232).  The disk states
"for IBM PC compatibles  V 1.3".  I have a 3.5" floppy.  About 3-4 years
ago I called the company and asked if they had an update, but they did
not.  It is manufactured by X-10 (USA) Inc., Northvale, NJ 07647.

I noticed that Radio Shack in their Christmas advertising mailer
featured an X-10 type automation device, but they didn't show the
"computer interface device".

David Kramer wrote:
> I do a lot of X10.  What hardware/software did you use?  The CP290?

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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:20:58 -0800 (PST), bobv@SOS.NET wrote:

bo> I am using Battman.exe that came with my ACE card and ni-cads....
bo>
bo> The question is:
bo>
bo> Shouldn't battman warn of low voltage BEFORE it is so low that the
bo> computer quits?

As I recall battman's warnings can be disabled by the user - maybe this
was done inadvertently? I used that utility for quite some time with a
df+ card and it *always* gave a low battery warning. It was even a bit
annoying because it would pop-up before the built-in low batt warning
every time.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:19:35 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I was curious if anyone has thought of making a collection of topcards
available for download. I found some on the eddie site (some of which
could be considered R-rated), but was just curious if anyone on the list
had a nice collection of topcards. I myself have only made one. It's
nothing fancy, it shows a picture of my badge, my name, rank and a reward
message. Also, I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
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Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:28:25 -0800
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Jeff wrote:

> I was curious if anyone has thought of making a collection of topcards
> available for download. I found some on the eddie site (some of which


I have made a collection of about 30 Dilbert comic strip topcards, and a
program that randomly swaps them.  It would probably be a copyright violation
to distribute them, however.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:53:20 -0800
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              "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM>
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I tried to run AcadR10 and V2.6 with no luck because of the HP's
nonstandard CGA mode.  The closest I got was using the EGA mode which
gave me the menus and command area, but nothing in the graphics area
itself.  Do you know of anyone who has successfully run ANY version of
Acad on the HP-LX?  The other CAD I've run on the HP just don't have the
features I need.

David

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:05:26 -0700
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              HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
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Subject:      Re: X-10 HOME AUTOMATION SYSTEM ON HP200LX
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     Hi!
     If you look at WWW.X-10.COM It is all there. Check it out


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-lcohn (lcohn@ix.netcom.com) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    11/26/97 8:46 PM


David,

It is the Home Automation Interface CP290 (RS-232).  The disk states
"for IBM PC compatibles  V 1.3".  I have a 3.5" floppy.  About 3-4 years
ago I called the company and asked if they had an update, but they did
not.  It is manufactured by X-10 (USA) Inc., Northvale, NJ 07647.

I noticed that Radio Shack in their Christmas advertising mailer
featured an X-10 type automation device, but they didn't show the
"computer interface device".

David Kramer wrote:
> I do a lot of X10.  What hardware/software did you use?  The CP290?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:21:43 -0600
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For those interested in this X-10 discussion, the following is a portion
of the X-10 HomePage catalog describing the computer interface:

Product Name: Computer Interface (CP290)

Description: Programmable Timer which you program from your computer and
then disconnect - It does NOT tie up your computer! Lets you program up
to 256 X-10 Modules to go on and off at specific times. The unit can
even be set to turn on a light and then dim it to a pre-set level.
Software is user friendly and available for various platforms.

Features: Controls 256 different X-10 addresses, 128 timed events.
Software is included for DOS and Windows 3.1

Order the CP-290 Computer Interface for PC (IBM compatibles)
Price: $69.99

For further information consult X-10 website:   http://www.x-10.com/

Les

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:23:23 -0500
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Hello

When i try to download a file from the SUPER site using WWW/LX and my
200LX i get "CONNECTION CLOSED BY REMOTE HOST"  error.
(I have no problem when using my desktop computer).

??????????

Any help are appreciated.

Thank you.

Michael

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:08:40 +0100
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>Does anyone have any information on network cards that will work with a
>200lx?  I would like to use mine as a network analyzer.  Nothing
>elaborate, just to detect the presence of a network.

The problem is to configure and enable it, because the 200LX has Card &
Socket services 1.01 and the PCMCIA interface is non-standard.

I've seen a couple of point enablers for ethernet cards in the SUPER page,
so I guess you'd better get one o these cards.

I'm actually trying to program one for my Xircom card, using the sources of
the linux PCMCIA package as a reference (and, of course, the developer's
manual). If I get it, I'll try to program point enablers for all the PCMCIA
cards supported by that package. Just don't know at the moment if it'll be
possible.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:41:54 -0000
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Ah yes, the ones we have are Xircom CE2-10BC/M - combo cards; but the
current in the book is the opposite of what you say :

10-Base-T 280mA typical, 300mA max
10-Base-2 85mA typical, 100mA max

But yes, without a point enabler it will not fly.  Frankly I am more
interested in the wireless LAN cards but they do draw more power still -
but new 803.11 cards are coming out, and maybe they will think to design
them to run on lower power.

William D.Ll.Brown
782-2681 / 0468 891330
Stevenage PMT Building  Room 41 G 033

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:15:11 +0000
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HI all.


I'm sure one of you has what i need :
a driver or patch for the accurite travelfloppy to make it work
with a speed-doubled HP200LX.

any help appreciated.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:11:02 +0800
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According to HP 200LX manual, the built-in charger is only operating with
NiCd batteries.  I have read a number of articles here talking about NiMH
batteries.  What are the potential problems when charging NiMH batteries?
What is the benefits with NiMH batteries?  I notice Panasonic has 1000mAh
NiCd batteries and Varta has 1300mAh NiMH batteries on the market.  How
much differences between these two types of batteries?  Your advice is most
appreciated.

Raymond

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:45:38 +0100
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Hi:

Has anybody got the CardBIOS specifications ?... in the SDK says that it's
available upon request...

Regards. Nacho.

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I vote for it. Go ahead.

Regards

Antonio


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Porto - Portugal
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AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:20:57 -0500
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The reason the manual doesn't talk about NiMHs is because the low =
battery warning is set up for NiCads which have a much shallower =
discharge curve and you get lots of warning before you're into real =
trouble. NiMHs have a very steep discharge curve and by the time the low =
battery warning occurs it may be too late to take action and avoid =
losing data. HP doesn't want you to get into this kind of trouble and =
blame them for it.The solution to this problem is to use Battman or =
ABCLX. The former has a setting for NiMHs. The latter allows you to set =
the warning at whatever voltage you like (I think; haven't used it). =
NiMHs have the advantage over NiCads of generally greater longevity and =
less problem with recharging "memory" so they're worth the trouble, =
although nowadays you can get high capacity NiCads which are pretty good =
if you discount the recharge memory aspect.
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According to HP 200LX manual, the built-in charger is only operating =
with
NiCd batteries.  I have read a number of articles here talking about =
NiMH
batteries.  What are the potential problems when charging NiMH =
batteries?
What is the benefits with NiMH batteries?  I notice Panasonic has =
1000mAh
NiCd batteries and Varta has 1300mAh NiMH batteries on the market.  How
much differences between these two types of batteries?  Your advice is =
most
appreciated.

Raymond

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:22:07 -0800
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$500 new in the box.
Enbloc docking station features:
        - built-in Motorolla wireless modem.
        - built-in 14.4k land-line modem w/ RJ-11 jack.
        - built-in standard 9 pin serial port.
        - internal battery for portable modem use.
        - car 12v adaptor.
        - serial cable.
        - AC adaptor.

HP100LX 5meg $175 mint cond. in box
HP200LX 2meg $375 mint cond. in box

Serial-to-Parallel DB25 or Centronic 36pin $60 new in box.
(no batteries needed type)

No more hunting for an old pc with the 5.25 drive.
NOW YOU CAN LOAD ALL YOUR OLD DOS SOFTWARES ANYTIME...ANYWHERE YOU WANT.
        - Microsolution backpack 5.25in portable floppy drive $50.
        - Sysgen 5.25in portable floppy drive $50.

Custom standard U.S. Keyboard of your HP LX (cable plugs straight in)
$500.

Custom mouse for your HP LX (cable plugs straight in) $75.
Windows 3.0 original 3.5 $35.
Windows 3.0 original 5.25 $35.
Windows 2.0 original 5.25 $15.

Mhz 14.4 xjack mint in box $45.
Car 12v supply to 110v $40.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:39:39 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Thank you for your reply.

You wrote:
>
>My STACKER.INI looks like this:
>
>/ems
>/w-
>c:\stackvol.dsk,rp
>f:\stacvol.dsk,rp
>

I assume I would replace c:\stackvol.dsk,rp with a:\stackvol.dsk,rp if I
wanted to compress the a:\ drive, correct?  Do I still need the
<f:\stacvol.dsk,rp> statement?  And should it be STACVOL.DSK and not
STACKVOL.DSK, as above?

>
>The CONFIG.SYS looks like this:
>
>buffers=20
>files=30
>lastdrive=J
>device=c:\stacker.com
>
I don't have the lastdrive=j statement.  Could that be the problem?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:55:41 -0500
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David Sargeant wrote:
>I've noticed that when I charge the batteries on my 200LX, the backup
>battery voltage climbs as well.

The 200LX does get quite warm in the vicinity of the backup battery durin=
g
charging so it is quite possible that the small increase in backup batter=
y
voltage may just be due to the the battery getting a bit warmer.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:50:45 +1300
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Raymond Li wrote:
>
> According to HP 200LX manual, the built-in charger is only operating with
> NiCd batteries.

Hi Raymond
The simple answer is that NiMH batteries were not commonly available
when HP wrote the 100/200 manuals but NiMH are now standard on the
majority
of new WinCE devices/cellphones/Video Cameras etc with the next advance
in batteries going to Lithium based variations.

My Pair of NiMH Batteries from Shier http://www.shier.com/ have been the
only batteries powering my HP200lx for the past 13 months.

NiMH require different charging than the standard 100mA for 6hrs of the
internal charging circuit and I have used ABC/LX (bought with the
batteries from Shier also) to customise my charging automatically.
Give them a try - go for the biggest mAh

Regards
John
Remove "NOSPAM." from reply address OR mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 07:41:00 -0800
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I've made a few topcards, unfortunately, they're all customized with my
personal return information.  Currently I'm using the topcards as a method to
"sharpen my Covey Saw".  I've got my address for return located in the lower
right corner, and I have a personal trait I need to work on in the upper left.
Lately, I've taken to having a picture of my wife with a "caption bubble"
stating the trait I need work on.  It actually works, for me.  :)  But then
again, she's always reminding me to do something. :)  I use Lord Jonin's
topcard switcher program in conjunction with an appt book macro to flip
topcards once a day.

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
childers@garlic.com
http://www.garlic.com/~childers
*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***


****************
You Wrote:
I was curious if anyone has thought of making a collection of topcards
available for download. I found some on the eddie site (some of which
could be considered R-rated), but was just curious if anyone on the list
had a nice collection of topcards. I myself have only made one. It's
nothing fancy, it shows a picture of my badge, my name, rank and a reward
message. Also, I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
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Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:46:52 -0800
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Just noticed that Office Depot is closing out the Compaq HPC WinCE box for $99.
Does anybody know anything about this machine?  My wife would like a palmtop,
but doesn't want to deal with DOS.

Thanks,
Bill

Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:29:28 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I have some problems which I hope the List Bubbas can help me with.  I
can't seem to get the minifax funtion on my exp card to work.  in fact,
when it is inserted and i go into datacomm and type AT I get nothing.  =

Second - can some one supply me with Tel/FAX/Email (not www - access here=
)
for vendors of Software Carousel (called a # but disconnected) and
Infoselect.   If some one knows the price, that's be great too.
Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for your indulgence!
Tom Nemeth
Damascus

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 20:58:18 -0400
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On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

ca> Can someone help me with the commands in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS =
that
ca> automatically load Stacker V4.0?  I have a 5 meg card stacked okay, =
but
ca> cannot get it to auto-load.  And, while I'm asking, where are the =
proper
ca> places to put these commands (where in relation to the PATH statement,
ca>  etc.)?

I am assuming that the stacvol file is already created on the a:
drive:-

The stacker.com is loaded as a device driver from config.sys - ie:
device=3Dc:\stacker\stacker.com also include the following line for good
measure:
shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos

Create an ascii file and name it stacker.ini - place this in the root
dir of the boot drive (a: or c:). Place the following entries in it:
/P=3D10
/AUTO
/EMS  (this is optional - use it if you have ems installed)
A:\STACVOL.DSK,RP

It is useful also to have the path to your stacker files included in
your path statement but not essential. I suggest keeping in addition
to the stacker.com, check.exe - this is necessary for repairing any
mishaps that may occur on the stacker drive...

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Date:         Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:27:11 -0500
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Raymond Li wrote:
>
> According to HP 200LX manual, the built-in charger is only operating with
> NiCd batteries.  I have read a number of articles here talking about NiMH
> batteries.  What are the potential problems when charging NiMH batteries?
> What is the benefits with NiMH batteries?  I notice Panasonic has 1000mAh
> NiCd batteries and Varta has 1300mAh NiMH batteries on the market.  How
> much differences between these two types of batteries?  Your advice is most
> appreciated.
>
> Raymond
>
I have read the same information and also wondered about this. I think
that at the time that the manual was written, those were the only
legitimate batteries to use. Since that time there has been a lot of
research on small storage batteries and we see this in the new batteries
in use. In another newsgroup there has been some recent discussion about
using Lithium batteries. Some of these are available in the AA size.

In my mind there are two questions. The first is, how does the charger
determine the charge rate. If it reads the current across a resistor and
adjusts the charge rate to a predetermined value, there should be no big
problem. If on the other hand, a fixed voltage is supplied to the
batteries in series with a fixed resistor, the charge rate would vary
with the voltage. NIcd cells have a lower voltage and would get more of
a charge. Other cells which have a higher output voltage would receive a
smaller charge.

The second question is how is the time determined. The manual states the
high rate charging time. Someone is or was selling software that claimed
to change the battery charging rate or time so that any sort of
batteries could be used. If the charge can be changed by software, then
is should be possible to uae almost any battery. I also saw some NiMH
batteries at a local store marked 1000 Ma. Hr.. I didn't buy until I get
some answers.

There is another point that could be mentioned. Someone recently
mentioned that his lithium backup battery has never been changed. He is
on very dnagerous ground. With time, all batteries tend to dry up and
lose the ability to supply current. The terminal voltage remains high
but when called on to deliver electricity, they fail. It is much better
to replace the backup battery each year as HP suggests.

If there is someone who is familiar with the internals of the HP200LX
power supply, inquiring minds would like to know what is in the thing.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> David Sargeant wrote:
> >I've noticed that when I charge the batteries on my 200LX, the backup
> >battery voltage climbs as well.
>
> The 200LX does get quite warm in the vicinity of the backup battery during
> charging so it is quite possible that the small increase in backup battery
> voltage may just be due to the the battery getting a bit warmer.
>
There are two effects that could cause this. The first is the battery
temperature as mentioned above. The second is the change in component
values with temperature and supply voltage. In other words, I am certain
that HP wasn't designing a high precision voltmeter just to measure
these battery voltages. They wanted one that was adequate for their
needs. You could chaek this by looking at the battery voltage after the
computer has been in the frig. and then after it has been on a sunny
window sill. In each case, there should be no charging going on.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 20:26:40 -0600
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Where can I get the Top Card switcher program?



73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:30:03 -0500
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At 20:26 11/27/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Where can I get the Top Card switcher program?
>
Jeff, you can get one from Lord Jonin here:
http://www.best.com/~jonin/palmtop.html
Clock-O-Doom is cool too.

Also, I've got some fractal topcards at my webpage below. If you want them,
download topfract.zip

73's Owen Samuelson


Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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I recall an old thread about an external PCMCIA adaptor -- just saw one i=
n
the 1-800-batteries catalogue. Plugs into any serail port and is battery
powered. Only it is a little pricy at $290.

Same catalogue lists Energizer AA lithiums at $8 for a set of 2.

Phil Godden

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:22:48 -0500
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I just checked on a monitor at www.surplusdirect.com, I found an IBM PCMCIA
adapter for $29.88. Can't tell if it is 5.25inch or 3.5inch package.

Dennis

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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 20:45:59 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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I bought one of these a while back. It is a full PCMCIA implementation that
supports ATA devices, network cards, and modems. It will fit into a 3.5" slot.

Does any one make a PCMCIA to IDE adapter?

Karl


At 11:22 PM 11/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I just checked on a monitor at www.surplusdirect.com, I found an IBM PCMCIA
>adapter for $29.88. Can't tell if it is 5.25inch or 3.5inch package.
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:11:42 -0800
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Sadness.

Today I decided to replace the batteries in my 200LX
as I often do.  I slipped in a couple of fresh batteries
and confidently hit the on/off button.

Nothing.

I pressed the on/off button several times not
beliefing that it would not work.  No beep, nothing.

I removed the batteries and put them in again.
Changed batteries.  Still nothing.

I tried Ctl-Alt-Delete.  Nothing.

Finally, getting impatient I whipped out the
manual and reviewed how to do a hard reset,
which I have done several times before:

   Ctrl-Shift-on   <== warning this is dangerous.

Usually I'm prompted as to whether I want to
erase everything on drive C or not and I say "n"
and then everything is fine.

This time, the system just went ahead and erased
everything on drive C!.  I think I pressed
Ctrl-shift-On twice in succession in my impatience.
That may have caused this.

Lesson learned:  take your time when pressing
Chtrl_Shift-ON.

I did have a backup-- but it was a week old and
I didn't backup everything..  Files on drive A
were not affected.

Another warning:  If you are using the Newton
Keyboard:  don't remove the cable while
the system is saving a file.  The system may
lock up!

Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Philip Seyer wrote:

> Finally, getting impatient I whipped out the
> manual and reviewed how to do a hard reset,
> which I have done several times before:
>    Ctrl-Shift-on   <== warning this is dangerous.

<snip>

> This time, the system just went ahead and erased
> everything on drive C!.  I think I pressed
> Ctrl-shift-On twice in succession in my impatience.
> That may have caused this.


I'd have to say it probably wasn't the CTRL-SHIFT-ON that erased it.  Although
it certainly is dangerous.  If your unit wasn't turning on before you tried
the hard reset, that's probably when it was erased.  But wanton hard-resets
are a bad idea; sometimes it'll reset the clock and every now and then it will
erase the C: drive without asking.  (This may have something to do with the
main and backup battery state before the hard reset...)
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Where can we get the topcard switcher program?

At 07:41 AM 11/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I've made a few topcards, unfortunately, they're all customized with my
>personal return information.  Currently I'm using the topcards as a method to
>"sharpen my Covey Saw".  I've got my address for return located in the lower
>right corner, and I have a personal trait I need to work on in the upper
left.
>Lately, I've taken to having a picture of my wife with a "caption bubble"
>stating the trait I need work on.  It actually works, for me.  :)  But then
>again, she's always reminding me to do something. :)  I use Lord Jonin's
>topcard switcher program in conjunction with an appt book macro to flip
>topcards once a day.
>
>Bill Childers - Computer Consultant
>Amateur Radio Callsign: KE6VVW
>childers@garlic.com
>http://www.garlic.com/~childers
>*** The more I use Windows 95, the more I appreciate my 200LX. ***
>
>
>****************
>You Wrote:
>I was curious if anyone has thought of making a collection of topcards
>available for download. I found some on the eddie site (some of which
>could be considered R-rated), but was just curious if anyone on the list
>had a nice collection of topcards. I myself have only made one. It's
>nothing fancy, it shows a picture of my badge, my name, rank and a reward
>message. Also, I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!!!
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Patrol/Enforcement Division
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
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>    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**
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Date:         Fri, 28 Nov 1997 00:49:37 -0500
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You can get basic info from www.microsoft.com/windowsce or go to compaq's
site and search for "c140".

It's kinda sluggish (compared to the Velo, of course) and a little cheesy,
but for $99... Anyhow, the Compaq site also suggests (to me) that
 * the c140 has 4 MB RAM on the board
 * the c120+ only has 2 MB on the main board
 * some c120+ have an additional 2 mb on an upgrade card
 * if you get the CE 2.0 ROM when it's made available that would replace
any 120+ upgrade card (and provide its own 2 MB RAM, bringing a c140 to 6
MB ?)

Also I think the Compaq modem was some special job with a single AA to
help keep the load off the CE device? Word is that standard PC Card modems
really suck the CE devices dry quickly.

DOS won't be a problem here ;-) but you will need 95/NT 4 to connect to
another machine (unless you want to FTP everything thru a PPP modem
connection ;-) )

I also recall that the earlier CE devices (e.g. pre-HP) were rushed so
quickly that they had to put the Web browser in RAM instead of ROM. And
most importantly, the Compaq/Cassio devices have a power management bug
that drains batteries when they're off, there's a patch that you should
download.

Last, I've been scouring the net for a while now tonight, and it looks
like there's virtually no freeware available for CE. Nothing like the
SUPER site, or the Pilot for that matter. To a Linux user who writes GPL
apps, that hurts :-p

-Peter

From:    childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject: ÝCE¨ Compaq PC Companion

Just noticed that Office Depot is closing out the Compaq HPC WinCE box for
$99.
Does anybody know anything about this machine?  My wife would like a
palmtop,
but doesn't want to deal with DOS.

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Got a file not found on the server for clock o'doom.


Ray
<snip>
http://www.best.com/~jonin/palmtop.html
Clock-O-Doom is cool too.

Also, I've got some fractal topcards at my webpage below. If you want them,
download topfract.zip

73's Owen Samuelson


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>Got a file not found on the server for clock o'doom.

Seems
http://www.best.com/~jonin/ftp/hp-palmtop/clock-o-doom_v3.zip
is correct.

v3 not  V3

-Yuzuru Goto(yuzurugoto@post1.com)
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childers wrote:
>
> Just noticed that Office Depot is closing out the Compaq HPC WinCE box for $99.
> Does anybody know anything about this machine?  My wife would like a palmtop,
> but doesn't want to deal with DOS.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
Bill:

I'd be happy to tell you that my first Palmtop was a Compaq.  I had it
for 2 weeks and tried very hard to make it work for me.  The problem I
had was that the screen was just too difficult to read.  (I was a
palmtop novice and wasn't aware of the HP200LX.)  I returned the Compaq
(which I paid $400 for) and purchased an HP200LX because I "liked the
screen better."

Now, 6 months later, I'm extremely happy with my purchase.  Wouldn't
trade it for a wince machine for anything.  But... $99 is still pretty
cheap and is a great buy if you can read the damn thing.


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Can someone tell me "which" autoexec.bat file my HP200LX uses.  I have a
flash card in "F" drive, but I have "autoexec.bat" files on F, D, A, and
C.

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David Sargeant wrote:

> I'd have to say it probably wasn't the CTRL-SHIFT-ON that erased it.  Although
> it certainly is dangerous.

I typically have some TSR's loaded.  (Newton Keyboard, Magnify, etc.)
When I use Transfile 200 to down/up load to my PC it will not work
unless all TSR's are removed.  Which brings me to my question:

I use the CTR+SHFT+ON (hard reset) to remove TSR's before connecting
Transfile.  Should I be using a less volatile way to remove TSR's?

Les

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Phil Godden wrote:
>
> I recall an old thread about an external PCMCIA adaptor -- just saw one in
> the 1-800-batteries catalogue. Plugs into any serail port and is battery
> powered. Only it is a little pricy at $290.

Any URL to check this thing out?

JS

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If I wanted to replace every period in a text file with a carriage
return, is there a way to do it globally with the search/replace functions=
 of
Memo or PalEdit?

Also, can someone remind me of the procedure for entering extended
ascii characters into Memo?

TIA,

--Tim in Frisco

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>Can someone tell me "which" autoexec.bat file my HP200LX uses.  I have a=

>flash card in "F" drive, but I have "autoexec.bat" files on F, D, A, and=
 C

That depends on where you have your CONFIG.SYS file.

The LX searches for CONFIG.SYS in order: A, C and D.
When it finds one, this drive becomes the default drive and it will searc=
h
for and execute an AUTOEXEC.BAT *only* on this drive.

If you need to perform special initialization on the F drive, you will ha=
ve
to call a batch file of any name from the AUTOEXEC.BAT on the default dri=
ve
(but remember to use CALL).

Jorgen
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>If there is someone who is familiar with the internals of the HP200LX
>power supply, inquiring minds would like to know what is in the thing.

I believe it starts charging at fast rate (100mA) and sets a timer for 6
hours. After the 6 hours it changes to trickle charging (45mA). =


The 6 hours is too short today. I have not found an interrupt that can
change it and assume the the value must be changed in the BIOS. Does
anybody know where?

I turn charging on/off via a small assembler program as needed (I log the=

voltages daily). It would be nice to be able to set the charging value in=

the charge-on/off program.

Jorgen
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>I use the CTR+SHFT+ON (hard reset) to remove TSR's before connecting
>Transfile.  Should I be using a less volatile way to remove TSR's?

Yes, you should be using a Ctrl-Shift-Delete. The hard reset is only for
cases where Ctrl-Shift-Del doesn't work and (seldom if ever) cases where
all the hardware needs to be initialized 100%.

Jorgen
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Subject:      Re: Binary Files (before: Kodak Diconix 150 Plus printer)
Comments: cc: melancon@PRYSM.NET

Receiving this kind of message I must assume  that many subscribers do not
know that if their MSware is not installed in the right way they are
sending binary files to this list. This file, Winmail.dat is an unnecessary
and exact copy of the pure ascii file with a lot of MSoft crap.
Please keep your email clean.


On 1997-11-26 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Status: RO
 HP>Brian
 HP>I used a Kodak Diconix 300w for several years.  The 150 plus should
 HP>give about the same quality and number of pages - same cartridge.
 HP>It seemed to run out of ink pretty quickly when I was printing
 HP>graphics with lots of ink coverage -probably 50- 75 pages.  For
 HP>mostly text you should get 4 or 5 times that.  I think the specs
 HP>say 250 sheets with 5% ink coverage, but I could be wrong.
 HP>The cart is the same as HP Thinkjet - the one with the rubber
 HP>bladder about the size of a thimble.  I refilled them with ink
 HP>several times before discarding them.  I used hot glue to reseal
 HP>them - I imagine the refill kits come with rubber stoppers now.
 HP>The output was GREAT for the time 150x150 dpi - not real impressive
 HP>next to the current crop of ink jets.  But it should be a good
 HP>traveling companion to the palmtop -
 HP>Mike
 HP>----------
 HP>Sent:   Wednesday, November 26, 1997 5:48 PM
 HP>Hi there -
 HP>Does anyone on the list use a Kodak Diconix 150 Plus ink jet printer
 HP>with their 100/200?
 HP>What sort of life do you get from the cartridges?  I think that it
 HP>takes a standard HP cartridge HP 51604A.
 HP>Brian
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Subject:      Appointment Tickler

Because I think that the idea behind the tickler is good I have downloaded
the program and have put it on my 100LX.
Calling for the tickled appointment list I was glad that it seemed to work
as it should. All the first 150 appointments seemed to get sorted out,
but....
From 150 lines showing just the last screen with appointments somewhere in
1998. What can I do to see the say 20 first appointments?
What went wrong?


All taglines are busy..One will be with you shortly.

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Comments: cc: JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM

On 1997-11-28 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>>I use the CTR+SHFT+ON (hard reset) to remove TSR's before
 HP>>connecting Transfile.  Should I be using a less volatile way to
 HP>remove TSR's? Yes, you should be using a Ctrl-Shift-Delete. The
 HP>hard reset is only for cases where Ctrl-Shift-Del doesn't work and
 HP>(seldom if ever) cases where all the hardware needs to be
 HP>initialized 100%. Jorgen
In order to remove TSR's I am using a small file, boot.com (16 Bytes)
which came with my stacked HP 5 Mb Flashdisk.
I presume it is part from the Stacker program and works fine
with following files.

A file which I named setnt.bat with following contents:
-------------------------------------------------
echo nt >c:\nt-boot.lck
c:\stacker\boot.com
-------------------------------------------------
and following addition in my autoexec.bat as first lines:
-------------------------------------------------
if not exist c:\nt-boot.lck goto nont
del c:\nt-boot.lck
a:
cd\
cd n108
nettamer

:nont
-------------------------------------------------
This combination let me run e.g. in this case Nettamer from an icon from my
HDM  Application manager by just calling  setnt.bat without any
disturbing TSR's and will return my Palmtop with all TSR loaded after I leave
the Nettamer program. As a matter of fact I have also another program
installed which needed everything it could get from my 1Mb HP100LX with the
same principle. Works fantastic.

"To a Programmer a bug that works is an undocumented feature!"

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Date:         Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:37:36 -0500
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              Donald Davies <ddavies@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Topcards -Reply

I too am interested in different topcards.
Don
DDAVIES@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU

>>> David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> 11/26/97 11:28pm >>>
Jeff wrote:

> I was curious if anyone has thought of making a collection of topcards
> available for download. I found some on the eddie site (some of which


I have made a collection of about 30 Dilbert comic strip topcards, and a
program that randomly swaps them.  It would probably be a copyright
violation
to distribute them, however.

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Is it working on HP 200LX?  If so, how to install it on application manager.

Thanks in advance.

Raymond

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>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Leslie Cohn wrote:
>> I was presently surprised at a new use for my HP200LX.  I loaded the
>> (pure DOS based) X-10 Home Automation System to control lights and
>> switches.  Loaded trouble-free and is completely plug-compatible.
>> Radio-Shack sells similar software.
>I do a lot of X10.  What hardware/software did you use?  The CP290?

Hi.  What are you using for X-10 control?  I used to use the DOS software
that came with my CP-290 from my 200LX.  I've switched to a CM-11A, but
I haven't seen any DOS software for it.  Sounds like a great candidate for
a PAL application!

Dave

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These mark and release programs have long been the favorite in
the desktop world:
tsrcom35.zip     79761 bytes,    96/06/21  TSR memory managmt utils

(MARK/RELEASE/MAPMEM)
Available on SimTel.

You put mark.exe in your autoexec, then a later release.exe (from the DOS
prompt) will remove the TSR's that are loaded after the mark.


Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:


> On 1997-11-28 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
>  HP>>I use the CTR+SHFT+ON (hard reset) to remove TSR's before
>  HP>>connecting Transfile.  Should I be using a less volatile way to
>  HP>remove TSR's? Yes, you should be using a Ctrl-Shift-Delete. The
>  HP>hard reset is only for cases where Ctrl-Shift-Del doesn't work and
>  HP>(seldom if ever) cases where all the hardware needs to be
>  HP>initialized 100%. Jorgen
> In order to remove TSR's I am using a small file, boot.com (16 Bytes)
> which came with my stacked HP 5 Mb Flashdisk.
> I presume it is part from the Stacker program and works fine
> with following files.
>
> A file which I named setnt.bat with following contents:
> -------------------------------------------------
> echo nt >c:\nt-boot.lck
> c:\stacker\boot.com
> -------------------------------------------------
> and following addition in my autoexec.bat as first lines:
> -------------------------------------------------
> if not exist c:\nt-boot.lck goto nont
> del c:\nt-boot.lck
> a:
> cd\
> cd n108
> nettamer
>
> :nont
> -------------------------------------------------
> This combination let me run e.g. in this case Nettamer from an icon from my
> HDM  Application manager by just calling  setnt.bat without any
> disturbing TSR's and will return my Palmtop with all TSR loaded after I leave
> the Nettamer program. As a matter of fact I have also another program
> installed which needed everything it could get from my 1Mb HP100LX with the
> same principle. Works fantastic.
>
> "To a Programmer a bug that works is an undocumented feature!"
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered
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Art Borg wrote:
>In my mind there are two questions. The first is, how does the charger
>determine the charge rate. If it reads the current across a resistor and=

>adjusts the charge rate to a predetermined value, there should be no big=

>problem.
I suspect that you are correct in this assumption, it is common to charge=

NiCds using a constant current. The charger does not determine the charge=

rate though, that is controlled by the charging circuitry inside the
palmtop.

>If on the other hand, a fixed voltage is supplied to the
>batteries in series with a fixed resistor, the charge rate would vary
>with the voltage. NIcd cells have a lower voltage and would get more of
>a charge. Other cells which have a higher output voltage would receive a=

>smaller charge.
Even if this were the case, the external charger is generating 12V, so an=
y
variation in the battery voltage during charging would be relatively smal=
l
in relation to 12V, thus essentially generating a constant charge current=
=2E
e.g during a charge cycle the battery voltage would vary from 2.3 to 2.8V=

so the voltage across the resistor would only vary between 9.7 and 9.2V -=

only 5% approx

>The second question is how is the time determined.
The 200LX has its high and low charge periods preset at 6 hours for high
charge rate (100mA) and forever at low charge rate (45mA) (After the high=

charge period has expired)

>Someone is or was selling software that claimed
>to change the battery charging rate or time so that any sort of
>batteries could be used. If the charge can be changed by software, then
>is should be possible to uae almost any battery.
The software you refer to is probably ABC/LX. This allows you to set the
high and low charge periods to any values, including a low charge of 0
hours so that charging stops when the battery is fully charged. As you
suggest, this does allow NiMh batteries to be used providing hassle free
charging. Visit www.dasoft.com for full details.

>There is another point that could be mentioned. Someone recently
>mentioned that his lithium backup battery has never been changed. He is
>on very dnagerous ground. With time, all batteries tend to dry up and
>lose the ability to supply current. The terminal voltage remains high
>but when called on to deliver electricity, they fail. It is much better
>to replace the backup battery each year as HP suggests.
Lithium batteries do have very long shelf lives - of the order of 10 year=
s.
In normal circumstances when the 200LX  has got its main batteries
installed, the backup battery is not supplying any current, this includes=

when the 200LX is turned off. The backup battery is effectively "on the
shelf".  The only time the backup battery is called upon to supply curren=
t
is if the main batteries are removed or become almost fully discharged.
IMHO it is reasonable to leave your lithium battery unchanged if you keep=

your HP charged.

Laurence Harvey

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Does anyone know if Prolinear is still in business?

Their web site seems to be gone.

Does anyone have any expereince with their 386 palmtop?

Thanks.

Michael
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Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:43:19,: Raymond Li wrote:

> Big Time
> Is it working on HP 200LX?  If so, how to install it on application
> manager.

Just add the following lines to the application manager.

Name: BigTime
Path: a:\bigtime.exm

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I've used X-10 for about ten years now to control light, sprinkler, etc.
around the house -- but I NEVER thought about using my HP200LX to control
the CP290.  I have an old HP95 and was wondering if you guys have ever used
a HP95 to drive the CP290?  I played around with it this morning, the
program would exectute but didn't seem to work.  Any suggestion where to
start trouble shooting?

Aloha - bob    \ooo_


>Date:    Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:05:26 -0700
>From:    Helmut Grossinger <HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM>
>Subject: Re: X-10 HOME AUTOMATION SYSTEM ON HP200LX
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>     Hi!
>     If you look at WWW.X-10.COM It is all there. Check it out
>
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
>
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>Subject: Re: X-10 HOME AUTOMATION SYSTEM ON HP200LX
>Author:  Non-HP-lcohn (lcohn@ix.netcom.com) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
>Date:    11/26/97 8:46 PM
>
>
>David,
>
>It is the Home Automation Interface CP290 (RS-232).  The disk states
>"for IBM PC compatibles  V 1.3".  I have a 3.5" floppy.  About 3-4 years
>ago I called the company and asked if they had an update, but they did
>not.  It is manufactured by X-10 (USA) Inc., Northvale, NJ 07647.
>
>I noticed that Radio Shack in their Christmas advertising mailer
>featured an X-10 type automation device, but they didn't show the
>"computer interface device".
>
>David Kramer wrote:
>> I do a lot of X10.  What hardware/software did you use?  The CP290?
>
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>From:    Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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>For those interested in this X-10 discussion, the following is a portion
>of the X-10 HomePage catalog describing the computer interface:
>
>Product Name: Computer Interface (CP290)
>
>Description: Programmable Timer which you program from your computer and
>then disconnect - It does NOT tie up your computer! Lets you program up
>to 256 X-10 Modules to go on and off at specific times. The unit can
>even be set to turn on a light and then dim it to a pre-set level.
>Software is user friendly and available for various platforms.
>
>Features: Controls 256 different X-10 addresses, 128 timed events.
>Software is included for DOS and Windows 3.1
>
>Order the CP-290 Computer Interface for PC (IBM compatibles)
>Price: $69.99
>
>For further information consult X-10 website:   http://www.x-10.com/
>
>Les

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Date:         Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:40:53 -0500
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              Phil Godden <Phil_Godden@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Their URL is www.800batteries.com



>>Phil Godden wrote:
>>
>> I recall an old thread about an external PCMCIA adaptor -- just saw on=
e
in
>> the 1-800-batteries catalogue. Plugs into any serail port and is batte=
ry
>> powered. Only it is a little pricy at $290.

>Any URL to check this thing out?

>JS

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Date:         Fri, 28 Nov 1997 21:02:54 -0500
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Was thinking about my comment about the battery powered external PCMCIA
adaptor being expensive -- when you think about comparing it to the prce =
of
a 4MB or 8MB memory upgrade it doesn't seem so bad.

The memory upgrade would be useful so that email and internet programs
could be on C: while your PCMCIA modem was in the slot. WIth the external=

adaptor, you should be able to have your A: in the slot and still use you=
r
PCMCIA modem so they accomplish the same purpose.

External might have a couple advantages that the memory upgrade does not:=


-handy to use to transfer files with your desktop
-should still be useful after your HP200 isn't.


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Has anyone tried to see if you can load DOS on a card (or from the =
internal drive) and run it off a 3xxLX?  Seems ya can dual boot most =
things these days, why not a WinCE?

Ray

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> From: Raymond Wick <chainsaw@DMV.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: DOS on a 3xxLX
> Date: Friday, November 28, 1997 8:51 PM
>
> Has anyone tried to see if you can load DOS on a card (or from the
internal drive) and run it off a 3xxLX?  Seems ya can dual boot most things
these days, why not a WinCE?

DOS is an Intel only operating system, since the CE machines all use RISC
chips which are significantly different DOS cannot run on them. There is a
company in the UK that is working on a DOS emulator for CE machines but it
hasnt been released yet.

Dan
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> Ray
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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> >If there is someone who is familiar with the internals of the HP200LX
> >power supply, inquiring minds would like to know what is in the thing.
>
> I believe it starts charging at fast rate (100mA) and sets a timer for 6
> hours. After the 6 hours it changes to trickle charging (45mA).
>
> The 6 hours is too short today. I have not found an interrupt that can
> change it and assume the the value must be changed in the BIOS. Does
> anybody know where?
>
> I turn charging on/off via a small assembler program as needed (I log the
> voltages daily). It would be nice to be able to set the charging value in
> the charge-on/off program.
>
> Jorgen
>
That is quite interesting but doesn't answer the more fundamental
question. How does the HP200LX determine the charging current? If the
charging power supply just assumes a fixed battery voltage (say 2.4
volts for two NiCD's and then uses a five volt supply with a 26 ohm
resistor to charge the battery, the charging current will be much less
if a Magnesium Hydride or Rechargable Lithium battery is used.

On the other hand, if the charging system actually measures the voltage
drop across a fixed resistor and then scales the charging voltage up or
down until the voltage drop across the resistor reaches the target
value, Then you can say that the system charges at 100Ma., 45Ma. or
whatever independent of the type of battery in the computer.

If you knew which way the charging system worked, you could use a
strategy of unplugging the charger periodically to cause the charger to
revert to the higher current since you had higher voltage batteries
installed if the charger used the variable current scheme. If it
actually measures the real current, you would want to know the
characteristics of the batteries you are using and perhaps make certain
that the charging was never (as much as possible) turned off.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> Art Borg wrote:
> >In my mind there are two questions. The first is, how does the charger
> >determine the charge rate. If it reads the current across a resistor and
> >adjusts the charge rate to a predetermined value, there should be no big
> >problem.
> I suspect that you are correct in this assumption, it is common to charge
> NiCds using a constant current. The charger does not determine the charge
> rate though, that is controlled by the charging circuitry inside the
> palmtop.
>
> >If on the other hand, a fixed voltage is supplied to the
> >batteries in series with a fixed resistor, the charge rate would vary
> >with the voltage. NIcd cells have a lower voltage and would get more of
> >a charge. Other cells which have a higher output voltage would receive a
> >smaller charge.
> Even if this were the case, the external charger is generating 12V, so any
> variation in the battery voltage during charging would be relatively small
> in relation to 12V, thus essentially generating a constant charge current.
> e.g during a charge cycle the battery voltage would vary from 2.3 to 2.8V
> so the voltage across the resistor would only vary between 9.7 and 9.2V -
> only 5% approx

except that it is probably not really 12 volts. There is very likely to
be a series diode to prevent damage from power supplies with reversed
plugs and some other drops due to switches (FET's, Bipolar transistors)
which do the actual switching. Thus the voltage drop through the
resistor would smaller and changes in current between NiCD cells and
Lithium or Ni-Hydride could be much larger and the 100Ma. would be much
less. Not important except that you usually want to recharge 140%-160%
of what you take out.
>
> >The second question is how is the time determined.
> The 200LX has its high and low charge periods preset at 6 hours for high
> charge rate (100mA) and forever at low charge rate (45mA) (After the high
> charge period has expired)
>
> >Someone is or was selling software that claimed
> >to change the battery charging rate or time so that any sort of
> >batteries could be used. If the charge can be changed by software, then
> >is should be possible to uae almost any battery.
> The software you refer to is probably ABC/LX. This allows you to set the
> high and low charge periods to any values, including a low charge of 0
> hours so that charging stops when the battery is fully charged. As you
> suggest, this does allow NiMh batteries to be used providing hassle free
> charging. Visit www.dasoft.com for full details.
>
> >There is another point that could be mentioned. Someone recently
> >mentioned that his lithium backup battery has never been changed. He is
> >on very dnagerous ground. With time, all batteries tend to dry up and
> >lose the ability to supply current. The terminal voltage remains high
> >but when called on to deliver electricity, they fail. It is much better
> >to replace the backup battery each year as HP suggests.
> Lithium batteries do have very long shelf lives - of the order of 10 years.

That reminds me of the salesman from National Carbon (when they still
owned Eveready). We had a new application in the consumer electronics
industry and I needed information beyond what the data book showed. I
asked him about the shelf life of a particular cell. He thought for a
minute and said 3 years. Iasked about that and he said, "I am retiring
in two and a half years".

> In normal circumstances when the 200LX  has got its main batteries
> installed, the backup battery is not supplying any current, this includes
> when the 200LX is turned off. The backup battery is effectively "on the
> shelf".  The only time the backup battery is called upon to supply current
> is if the main batteries are removed or become almost fully discharged.
> IMHO it is reasonable to leave your lithium battery unchanged if you keep
> your HP charged.
>
I respect your opinion but suggest that since any battery must have some
venting mechanism, it is likely to dry up in time and the tiny cost is
cheap insurance against loss.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Could someone send a sample compiler error file (as produced by
Turbo C) to me?  I'd like to try the built-in compiler/editor
function of PALedit, but it doesn't recognize the error files
produced by MIX Power C (which I use).  If I knew the format of the
Turbo C files, I could probably throw a quick little program
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Hi Quinton,

Thanks for your response.

Firstly the bigtime.exm file is located in drive C and cannot moved to
drive A.  I do not know why HP 200LX just refused.  Now in the application
manager it has exact your recommended lines except c drive instead.  It
won' work.  In its text file, it always refers to 95LX.  Are you working it
on 200LX or 95LX?

Raymond

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At 06:38 PM 28/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:43:19,: Raymond Li wrote:
>
>> Big Time
>> Is it working on HP 200LX?  If so, how to install it on application
>> manager.
>
>Just add the following lines to the application manager.
>
>Name: BigTime
>Path: a:\bigtime.exm
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 01:23:25 -0400
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I was setting up a weekly event to run jmax on my JAMmed drive when I
thought about batteries.  Has anyone been running jmax when the
batteries decided to give up the ghost?  What happens?

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 02:32:47 -0500
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Would you be interested to sell your PC110....or perhaps trade with my 8megs
Velo1?

gerry
san francisco

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 02:54:55 -0500
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Subject:      Re: unmounting JAMmed drives
Comments: To: jviehweg@lucent.com

Hi all,

I've used jam for a long time and have had no problems.
You don't have to unmount a  jam drive located on one  flash card before
mounting one on another card. Jam supports removeable media but will not
automatically detect a change. Their are a couple of things you do need to
know. You have to assign two different drive letters and you cannot be
running any software that will access the removed drive otherwise you'll have
problems. If you use the sysmgr filer you need to first switch out of the jam
drive before switching cards. Going to the top menu where you select the
drive will keep you safe or go to the internal drive first.
Before I went and sold my right arm for a 20meg flashcard (bought it before
prices became resonable) I used two 5meg cards jammed. I wrote a batch file
that I would run each time I switched cards. After both cards were mounted
the batch file would check the volume label and determine which card was in
the palmtop. The using the Jswap utility it would hide the drive that was
located on the other card. This way their was no way to accidently access the
other jammed drive.

Hope this helps
Angelica

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Subject:      Re: New NiMH Batteries & Rechaging Backup Battery

Hi,

I've heard about these batteries that Mack offers but haven't had a chance to
order them yet. Their supposed to be a new formula so that they don't self
discharge as fast as regular Nihm.
As for rechargable lithium AA their is one company that is in the testing
phase. These batteries are listed as having a capacity of 750ma per cell but
the difference is each cell is rated at 3volt not 1.25volt so you would
either have to use a single cell and a spacer or rig the battery compartment
so the cells are in parallel not series. You will also need a special charge.
You CANNOT charge these cells in the palmtop.

Their address is

http://www.tadiranbat.com

Angelica

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:43:13 +0100
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> Could someone send a sample compiler error file (as produced by
> Turbo C) to me?

This is as it looks like. Each error message starts with "Error" or
"Warning" followed by the file name, followed by the line number, a
colon and the error message itself.

tcc -w -d -j6 -O -Z -c -mm -Ia:\pal\src\inc post.c
Turbo C  Version 2.0  Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International
post.c:
Error post.c 187: Undefined symbol 'S_HOOVER' in function do_menu
Error post.c 190: Statement missing ; in function do_menu
*** 2 errors in Compile ***

Andreas ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:11:50 -0500
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>That is quite interesting but doesn't answer the more fundamental
>question. How does the HP200LX determine the charging current? If the
>charging power supply just assumes a fixed battery voltage (say 2.4
>volts for two NiCD's and then uses a five volt supply with a 26 ohm
>resistor to charge the battery, the charging current will be much less
>if a Magnesium Hydride or Rechargable Lithium battery is used.

I don't think the HP200LX determines anything.
When you enable charging, it probably just sets a timer to 6 hours and
sends 100mA to the batteries. When the timer expires, it changes that to
45mA which it will send until the cows go home.

My strategy is: I recently changed to NiCD's and wrote a simple battery
logging program to determine the maximum and minimum value value for the
battery. I always charge overnight and want to write a program that
automatically turns off charging when the max value has been reached to
avoid overcharging.

This could evolve into a resident program that automatically starts and
stops. From what I have read about ABC, that is what it basically is
doing.

But I need to know how to change the 6 hours to anything (BIOS? CMOS?).
Somebody knows?

I suppose I could dump the BIOS before and after I enable charging to
see where the timer is. Hmmm...

Jorgen
 =

 =

  =

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 07:46:11 -0500
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Big Time

Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:42:51, Raymond Li wrote:
> Hi Quinton,
>
> It won' work.  In its text file, it always refers to 95LX.  Are you working
> it on 200LX or 95LX?

It works just fine on my 100LX.






Regards,

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 / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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You can use a search/replace  pgm from the DOS prompt.
Many are available on Simtel. I wrote TEXREP12.ZIP which
allows multiple strings at one time in an easy format.

If I wanted to replace the . I would use replace ". " with ".<cr>".
Just replace the period with CR would give some blank lines
and break the above texrep.zip into two lines.

Timothy Ingham wrote:

> If I wanted to replace every period in a text file with a carriage
> return, is there a way to do it globally with the search/replace functions of
> Memo or PalEdit?
>
> Also, can someone remind me of the procedure for entering extended
> ascii characters into Memo?
>
> TIA,
>
> --Tim in Frisco
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Subject:      FS
Comments: To: mmaxwell@mail.tds.net

HP200LX 2MB
 HP Connectivity Software
AC Adapter
Serial Cable for file transfer
HP adapted Newton Keyboard and Software (installed and working)
Flex Light
Magnify and Buddy
Original Manuals

$450.00

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 13:44:46 -0500
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              Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Prolinear?
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:51:20 EST."

Michael Stocker wrote:

> Does anyone know if Prolinear is still in business?

A Dejanews search picked up a posting from two weeks ago that mentioned
that Prolinear is out of the palmtop business, and that what's on the
street is old production.

> Their web site seems to be gone.

According to another article from mid-September, their phone is off,
too.  September was also the last issue of Mobile Computing that
contained their ad.  The Netcom username they specify in that ad for
email (pic) is no longer valid, either.

> Does anyone have any expereince with their 386 palmtop?

I don't, but a review from July 1996 is still available on a travel site
at Boston University:

    http://tawny.bu.edu/JandJ/How/PS-3000.html

My decision to go with the 200LX was partly influenced by this
article.

                                -Jim.

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Subject:      Re: X-10 HOME AUTOMATION SYSTEM ON HP200LX
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:05:26 MST."

Helmut Grossinger  wrote:

>      If you look at WWW.X-10.COM It is all there. Check it out

I get no response (not even to ping) from that host, but

    http://www.x10.com/

is up and full of information.

                                -Jim.

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Hi,
I would like to know how much it is safe storing data in the Hp200 built-in=
 software (especially Lotus 1-2-3) with a password. I mean, did anybody=
 of you manage to violate for example a password protected Lotus spreadshee=
t, obviously without having known or tryied to guess the password ?
I'm not interested in the method used, if any, but only if I can entrust=
 the Hp200 with my private data with an acceptable degree of security.

Thank You for the help.

Paolo

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Subject:      Re: ÝCE¨ Compaq PC Companion
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:46:52 PST."

Bill Childers wrote:

> Just noticed that Office Depot is closing out the Compaq HPC WinCE box
> for $99.  Does anybody know anything about this machine?  My wife would
> like a palmtop, but doesn't want to deal with DOS.

According to an article in the Computing section of CNet on Christmas
bargains:

    http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16846,00.html

CompUSA is also offering a Compaq Companion for $99.  It is a model
C120.

According to the comparison page on Compaq's site:

    http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/comparison.html

and referring to Peter W.'s comments on the C120+, the C120 appears to
be a C120+ without the bundled the modem, AC adapter, or "Quick
Connect" (a "mini port replicator").  Retail price on the missing
goodies is about $240.

                                -Jim.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:15:31 EST
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In a message dated 97-11-29 13:12:43 EST, you write:

<< HP adapted Newton Keyboard and Software (installed and working)
 Flex Light >>
Hi,
Would you consider selling these items separately and, if so, what would be
your asking price?

Robin
email:  RGBROWN@aol.com

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OK, I'll admit it, I bought one. The power of the Dark Side and all.
Office Depot has (had?) two different models on closeout.
The C140 for $99, which has 4MB and no modem, and a C120(+?) model
which had 2 megs and a modem for $139. The sales being said that they
had had 30 machines Friday morning, and were down to 3 when I bought the
C140.
Two other people bought one at the same time; most people seemed to
want the model with the modem, not realizing how limiting 2MB would be.
These things have WinCE 1.0 and will have to be upgraded for $99.

Observations:
Firstly, let me say that I am a big fan of the HP200, so I may be biased.
Others have posted more detailed comparisons; I'll just give my
own opinion on what was important to me.

------------------------  Plus category: -------------------------------
* The backlight on the WinCE machine is nice. However, it does
not stay on long enough (and does not appear to be adjustable...) and
is not really very bright. You do need it too because the screen is not as
contra sty
as the HP200.

* The internet explorer works very well, much better than my experience on
the
HP200 with nettamer. I used a 14.4 XJ2144 modem, and got about 45
minutes on line (about the same time as the HP). For me, this makes the
machine worth the $99 purchase.

* I can type on the keyboard better than on the HP200, and the keys are in
the
  usual positions.

* The screen is a little bigger, which helps for me. The width is almost
exactly
the same as the HP200, but it is about 1/2 inch taller. The gray scale
really helps in the browser.

* The touch screen is cute, and you really can run it with your finger
   in most cases. My screen is all fingerprinted up because of this!

----------------------- Minus Category -----------------------------
* There is very little software. What there is is mostly commercial
with Windows type prices. Yeah,. there are a few shareware programs,
but nothing like what is available for DOS. I have not found anything
that I feel like installing yet. If what you want isn't built in, you will
have to really search and probably pay to get what you want.

* I was told that there is no (easy) way on this unit to run the unit off AC
without
buying the docking station. Power goes in on the proprietary serial plug.
Because the modem really eats power, you need an AC adapter
if you are going to do much more than just check your mail.

*  It is bigger and heavier than the HP. I can fit the HP in a pocket,
the Compaq does not fit in most of the pockets that I own. I would
say that the Compaq is only about 10% larger in each dimension though.

* Many programs don't seem to want to store data on an external
flash card. I can't seem to read the flash card in my desktop reader
like the HP.

* The built in terminal program does not have any decent file transfer
options.

* The screen is a lot less contrasty than the HP screen. It is larger, but
harder to read in bad light.

* You sure can't whip off a quick C program and run it on the WinCE machine.

I really can't comment on the functionality most of the software included,
since it is of little use to me. I might use the word processor to take
notes.

Hope this helps someone. Fire at will.

-Bryan


Jim Gonzalez wrote:

> Bill Childers wrote:
>
> > Just noticed that Office Depot is closing out the Compaq HPC WinCE box
> > for $99.  Does anybody know anything about this machine?  My wife would
> > like a palmtop, but doesn't want to deal with DOS.
>
> According to an article in the Computing section of CNet on Christmas
> bargains:
>
>     http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16846,00.html
>
> CompUSA is also offering a Compaq Companion for $99.  It is a model
> C120.
>
> According to the comparison page on Compaq's site:
>
>     http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/comparison.html
>
> and referring to Peter W.'s comments on the C120+, the C120 appears to
> be a C120+ without the bundled the modem, AC adapter, or "Quick
> Connect" (a "mini port replicator").  Retail price on the missing
> goodies is about $240.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:04:48 -0500
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Hi all -

I saw a recent posting in "kw.forsale" from "adamk@golden.net" that he
has Agenda Manuals for sale for those interested.

Brian
--
Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA

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They're closing them out because the new ones are infinitely better with =
color screens.

Before you commit to buying one, make sure your wife can actually READ =
the screen.  Friend at work took his back after finding the screen =
useless.  The new model is, of course, over $500 again.  Of course, =
another friend who works for Compaq has his life on one of the original =
and loves it.  Just do a thorough analysis.

Ed, N5EM
Houston, Home of the little Compaq thinggy.


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Bill Childers wrote:

> Just noticed that Office Depot is closing out the Compaq HPC WinCE box
> for $99.  Does anybody know anything about this machine?  My wife =
would
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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:33:17 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Security of data in Hp200
Comments: To: Paolo Piovano <paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT>
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Nothing is 100% secure on your 200LX, as is.

It really depends on the level of security your require.

You might want to check out the following site dealing with encrypting data:

    http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/cbsw.html

Someone on the list mentioned posted it previously and it contains some really interesting info and software.

--- On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:00:34 -0500  Paolo Piovano <paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT> wrote:

>I would like to know how much it is safe storing data in the Hp200 built-in software (especially Lotus 1-2-3)
with a password. I mean, did anybody of you manage to violate for example a password protected Lotus
spreadsheet, obviously without having known or tryied to guess the password ?
>I'm not interested in the method used, if any, but only if I can entrust the Hp200 with my private data with
an acceptable degree of security.

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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           11/29/97 7:29:53 PM EST
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I would like to get a program that will easily allow me to print out my
phone list as well as my notes list.

I've searched the archives and haven't found anything freely available
that does the job.  Is there perhaps one I overlooked, or even a
commercial program which will do this painlessly?

Thanks,
.M

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:02:30 -0500
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Just print directly from your Phone or Notes app.

To format the data for your printout hit F5 (Clip), highlight DataCard, and then select
Edit.  From here, modify the DataCard layout to meet your printout needs.

Now print out your phone list or notes by going Menu, File, Print, Print - All Items,
Style - Custom - DataCard, OK.

That's it.

--- On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:27:31 -0800  Marshall Erling <merling@RICOCHET.NET> wrote:

>I would like to get a program that will easily allow me to print out my
>phone list as well as my notes list.
>
>I've searched the archives and haven't found anything freely available
>that does the job.  Is there perhaps one I overlooked, or even a
>commercial program which will do this painlessly?
>
>Thanks,
>.M
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           11/29/97 7:56:03 PM EST
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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:40:47 -0500
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> Receiving this kind of message I must assume  that many subscribers=
 do not
> know that if their MSware is not installed in the right way they are
> sending binary files to this list. This file, Winmail.dat is an unnecessa=
ry
> and exact copy of the pure ascii file with a lot of MSoft crap.
> Please keep your email clean.

  Hear, hear! Keep it clean and short. If your system is not set up
properly...we still get binary files.

  Best regards.

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How does one dump the filer program from the app manager on a 200lx?

I want to run a large program and 421k isn't enough...

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:34:47 -0600
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Ed Manuel wrote:
>
> They're closing them out because the new ones are infinitely better with color screens.
>
> Before you commit to buying one, make sure your wife can actually READ the screen.  Friend at work took his back after finding the screen useless.

Bought one 6 months ago - returned it in 2 weeks.  I couldn't read the
screen.  The screen was frustrating and useless to me.  HP200LX
significantly better.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:51:52 -0500
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We're hoping someone has the above Palmtop available for sale for less
than HP wants a new one for.
I sent my wife's in to HP for display repair/replacement along with the
req'd check for $218, after she spilled some OJ on the unit. I was able
to back it up completely before shipping, so it appeared everything was
working except for the display.
Now HP says the unit is "BEYOND REPAIR" & req's replacement, for an
extra $361.26!
Anyone got one for substantially less than $361? Don't need manual,
connectivity pack, etc. Now that I got my wife hooked, it looks like
I'm on the hook until I can get this resolved.
Thanks.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:19:15 -0600
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I too hate getting the winmail.dat attachments and I do seem to get them
quite regulary here on the list. Is there a way that the mail server
could be set-up to reject such postings?


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:17:00 -0600
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From:         Tom Hoover <thoover@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Paolo Piovano <paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT> said: > > I would
              like to know how much it is safe storing data in the Hp200
              built-= > in software (especially Lotus 1-2-3) with a password. I
              mean, did anybody=

Even though I don't have any experience with trying to crack the passwords
on the built-in software, I only trust my private data to PGP.  I keep all
private data on my 200LX in an Info-Select stack, which is easily
encrypted/decrypted with PGP.  That data, which doesn't do me much good
unless it's with me at all times, is worth far more than the machine if it
happened to be stolen.

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:21:07 -0600
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I know we have discussed this before on the list but with the number of
adept programmers on the list I thought I would pose the question/comment
again. Has/can anyone write a program that would do PPP dialup grab and
send email then logoff? It seems that one could make a decent amount of
money in shareware fees for such a program. I use Qua-lx which is a nice
program along with pine and elm when I dial into the shell account that I
have but if someone could write a program that did nothing but email
which was fairly small in size I think it would be quite a hit with us
palmtoppers. Nettamer is a nice program but it seems that a "email only"
program would be much smaller and more efficient for use on our LX
machines. I have a couple of email accounts, two of which are only
available via PPP, unfortunately I can't even telnet to the email server
to retrieve it. I guess that is my Christmas wish, a simple program for
my LX that does nothing but email via PPP.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:05:29 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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Check out Nettamer at http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/



At 11:21 PM 11/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I know we have discussed this before on the list but with the number of
>adept programmers on the list I thought I would pose the question/comment
>again. Has/can anyone write a program that would do PPP dialup grab and
>send email then logoff? It seems that one could make a decent amount of
>money in shareware fees for such a program. I use Qua-lx which is a nice
>program along with pine and elm when I dial into the shell account that I
>have but if someone could write a program that did nothing but email
>which was fairly small in size I think it would be quite a hit with us
>palmtoppers. Nettamer is a nice program but it seems that a "email only"
>program would be much smaller and more efficient for use on our LX
>machines. I have a couple of email accounts, two of which are only
>available via PPP, unfortunately I can't even telnet to the email server
>to retrieve it. I guess that is my Christmas wish, a simple program for
>my LX that does nothing but email via PPP.
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Patrol/Enforcement Division
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:06:53 -0800
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Check out Nettamer at http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/ or
http://www.nettamer.net/

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 02:44:03 -0500
Reply-To:     Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg>
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On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:49:52 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Conclusion: If this sucker could run linux, I would buy it.
me too

You know, you guys might want to check out the IBM PC110 palmtop. Same size as the 200LX, power of a
486. Battery life outta the box is 3 hours continous, enhanced battery (Sony Camcorder Battery) for 5 hours,
running Linux just fine.... OS/2 goes on it too.... Not to mention Win95 too (WinSLOW 95 that is). NT runs like
shit from hell thou'...
!tagline

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 02:44:22 -0500
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On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:00:04 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

What I mainly like with Win CE 2.0 is that MS will give now you some
options: would you like to develop a program in Visual C++ 5.0, Visual
Basic 5.0 or in Visual Java (it's coffe- right?). This gives the Win Ce
platform a major advantage over 200LX

I really wonder if my 100% PURE JAVA apps I write can be worked on the 620... My IBM
PC110 486 Palmtop is a go ahead... (OS/2 on board) Let's see 'bout the 620 when I get
one... from a disgruntled user selling it below cost. (My company takes in USED
laptops and palmtops. 320LX's are pretty frequent. Anyone wants them?)
!tagline

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 02:44:41 -0500
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:25:53 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

: If I had to choose, or write a program for a portable machine other than
the
: 200LX, I would prefer a Libretto (or an IBM PC110, for that matter) loaded
: with
: WinNT over a WinCE machine. Though if I had a choice, I would install
Linux on
: such a machine instead.

If -- when -- I buy another ultraportable (palmtop, superpalmtop, or
otherwise)
I'll put Linux on it.  I want a Libretto.  On the other hand, I don't have
$2000 to get one. Yet.

Do you plan to consider getting a CHEAPER alternative then? One that can run 5 hours
stretchs instead of *1* on the Libretto, One that is SMALLER than the Libretto, and
pratically, very 200LX like (it even uses EXM!!!) It's the PC110. And my company is
carrying them.

Do drop me a mail for more details, or drop over to www.waysoft.com for comparisions.
My company web page is in pieces... :)

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:06:08 +1300
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From:         John Shaw <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
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Nicholas Chan wrote:
> <snip>
> You know, you guys might want to check out the IBM PC110 palmtop.
> Same size as the 200LX,

Hold it....
HP200LX=160x86x25 (Volume=344000)
IBM-PC110=158x113x33 (volume=589182)
Its Amazing for a 486sx33 colour Mini-Notebook
but its still 71% bigger than a 200lx
-it'll take a Texas size denim shirt pocket to hold that!

The machine the PC110 does blow totally away is the
HP620=198x104x35.5 (Vol=733681) WinCE 2.0
a huge 113% bigger than the 200LX

> power of a 486
It is a 486sx33!!  go to Angela Walkers page for spec
      http://www.walker.reston.va.us/pc110/specs.html
The Gadgeteer has a new PC110 mail List
      mailto:gadgeteer@iquest.net?subject=SUBSCRIBE

Its good to see such excitement...

Regards
john
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Karl DeLyria wrote:
>
> Check out Nettamer at http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/
Old Link...
> At 11:21 PM 11/29/97 -0600, Jeff Johns wrote:
> >I know we have discussed this before on the list but with the number of
> >adept programmers on the list I thought I would pose the question/comment
> >again. Has/can anyone write a program that would do PPP dialup grab and
> >send email then logoff? It seems that one could make a decent amount of
> >money in shareware fees for such a program. I use Qua-lx which is a nice
> >program along with pine and elm when I dial into the shell account that I
> >have but if someone could write a program that did nothing but email
> >which was fairly small in size I think it would be quite a hit with us
> >palmtoppers. Nettamer is a nice program but it seems that a "email only"
> >             --------------------------
> >program would be much smaller and more efficient for use on our LX
> >machines.

Hi Karl & Jeff & all

There is some discussion on the NetTamer List trying to
  ( mailto:nettamer@dekan.com?subject=subscribe )
get David Colston to produce an eMail only PT version
"NetTamer Lite" with no result yet. eMail David and add
your voices to the pool. mailto:nettamer@nettamer.net

I use V1.08PT on C: of a 200LX/2M and it takes 270k

Cheers

John
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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:04:28 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Linux on Palmtop?
Comments: To: ncknight@pacific.net.sg
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> Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> > Conclusion: If this sucker could run linux, I would buy it.
> me too
>
> You know, you guys might want to check out the IBM PC110 palmtop.
> Same size as the 200LX, power of a 486. Battery life outta the box
> is 3 hours continous, enhanced battery (Sony Camcorder Battery) for 5

Not to give the impression that we are pedants; but in addition to the
volume discrepancy, the IBM PC110 (excluding battery) weighs twice
a ho200lx (including battery). And that Camcorder battery sounds like
a biggie!

ObNice: it does beat the Libretto and 620lx, though. But I did see that
homepage with the coke can next to it when I was deciding what to buy ...
and I still bought a hp200lx!  :)


--
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                            Brendan Macmillan
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   Within his bending sickle's compass come;"

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:12:14 +1100
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From:         Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Wireless keyboard
Comments: To: NOSPAM.palmtop@ihug.co.nz
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Anyone know anything about those wireless keyboards? Saw one on one
of those PC110 pages...

http://www.sejin.com/wireless/wireless1.html

Here's the blurb:
        Wireless compact keyboard with PC-compatible receiver.
        Full-size typing keys.
        Full 104 keyboard functionality including an embedded numeric keypad.
        Two new keys to support Windows 95.
        Easy to set up, just plug and play.
        No more irritating keyboard cables.
        Receiver Unit is easy to attach to any surface.
        Twice the battery life of other designs.
Size: 86 x 75 x 25 mm (3.4 x 3.0 x 1.0 in.)

Anyone know the battery life; weight?

Thanks


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Subject:      Re: NiMH battery
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>But I need to know how to change the 6 hours to anything (BIOS? CMOS?).
>Somebody knows?

Check the PAL library. There's a function just for that, with source
included, in case you don't want to link the whole thing.

And one remark about this function: it takes an int as a parameter, while
the number written to a memory area in which the time counter is, is a
long. This causes an error if you pass a value over 32767 (>0x7FFF),
because it's treated as an int, negative, converted to long (0xFFFFXXXX),
and then written. The result is a much higher number than the one you
intended to set.

All that has to be done is to redefine that function parameter as a long
(and recompile the library).

Regards. Nacho.

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Is Mastery a shareware program? Does it use Case-Based Reasoning?

Regards,

Alvaro Barba.

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De:             Philip SeyerÝSMTP:pseyer@BEST.COM¨
Enviado:        Mi=E9rcoles 26 de Noviembre de 1997 9:24 PM
Para:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Asunto:         Re: Mastery

Thanks for your message , but what are filing boxes for questions?
I can easily modify Mastery to include new features, but I need
a statement of your requirements.  Mastery is version 1.0
and I am open to suggestions.

ÝFor those of your who don't know, MASTERY is a DOS program
designed to help you master any subject.  You create your
own self-study questions and answers and Mastery will drill
you in a systematic way until you master the material.¨



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David:

How did you get to use EGA mode in your Palmtop?  Thanks.

Regards,

Alvaro Barba.

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De:             David R. BirchÝSMTP:drbirch@EXECPC.COM¨
Enviado:        Jueves 27 de Noviembre de 1997 12:53 AM
Para:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Asunto:         Re: HP marketing (and other thoughts--LONG)

I tried to run AcadR10 and V2.6 with no luck because of the HP's
nonstandard CGA mode.  The closest I got was using the EGA mode which
gave me the menus and command area, but nothing in the graphics area
itself.  Do you know of anyone who has successfully run ANY version of
Acad on the HP-LX?  The other CAD I've run on the HP just don't have the
features I need.

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Hi,

This message is for you that lives in Singapore or intend to visit us for
business or pleasure. GEO Millenium System which created ROAD PILOT for
Win95 and Win 3.1 has now released ROAD PILOT PT for HP 200LX. Since I find
this Street Directory over Singapore so useful, I would like to share this
information with you people which are or will come to Singapore.

For more information and screen captures of the map, please go to:

http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm
and check out the "If you live in Singapore or ..." tip there.

Regards,

Jorgen

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|jorgen@palmtop.net      |    Mobile Computing -> HP 200LX Palmtop PC     |
|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
|wallgren@newspage.com.sg|Unlike fine wine, bottled-up emotions do not    |
|jorgen_wallgren@hp.com  |taste better with  time...                      |
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|This message reflects my private opinion and not necessary my company's. |
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In the FAQ for 'Nettamer' mention is made of fax software for the
HP200LX and its brothers called "BGfax" I have doen a quick search and
not yet found anything useful. Can someone point me to the file? And
comments about use of the product?

Best regards,

Art Borg

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I'm having a devil of a time finding one of these things... It seems that I
keep being 5 minutes late at each store I arrive at.  "Sorry, we just sold the
last one," seems to be my motto.  No one will hold one in stock for me, either,
cause they are in such demand.  Oh well... I suppose that's an omen.  I should
take the $99 and put it toward a 2x-8mb upgrade.

:)

Bill


****************
You Wrote:

According to an article in the Computing section of CNet on Christmas
bargains:

    http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16846,00.html

CompUSA is also offering a Compaq Companion for $99.  It is a model
C120.

According to the comparison page on Compaq's site:

    http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/comparison.html

and referring to Peter W.'s comments on the C120+, the C120 appears to
be a C120+ without the bundled the modem, AC adapter, or "Quick
Connect" (a "mini port replicator").  Retail price on the missing
goodies is about $240.

                                -Jim.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 08:39:11 -0500
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I love my new HP200lx (thanks Julie!).  What is the best way to connect this
wonder to my (Amiga) desktop?  I don't have a PC, so the Connectivity software
is useless to me, although I do have a 9-pin serial, 25-pin serial, and
parallel ports at my disposal.  IRDA may be an option (still trying to track
down the software/hardware for this).  Compatibility isn't a problem as I
regularly swap data between my Amiga and Tandy200.

What is the best (and fastest) means of transferring data?

Thanks!!!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:10:04 -0800
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While we're on the subject of size... I saw the Libretto at CompUSA the
other day.  If memory serves me correctly, the "Super Palmtop" PTV-30
from Educalc that was being talked about a while back had about the same
dimensions, but was a bit longer.  Just to give some idea as to the size
of this alleged "palmtop."  It probably should've been called the
"Super-Sized Palmtop."

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:07:00 -0500
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AG>In the FAQ for 'Nettamer' mention is made of fax software for the
  >HP200LX and its brothers called "BGfax" I have doen a quick search and
  >not yet found anything useful. Can someone point me to the file? And
  >comments about use of the product?

If you can't find it elsewhere, it's available here.  I use BGFAX on my
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On Sun, 30 Nov 1997 00:00:09 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

Date:    Sat, 29 Nov 1997 02:32:47 -0500
From:    Gerry Socco <GERRYSOCCO@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Info on IBM PC110

>Would you be interested to sell your PC110....or perhaps trade with my 8megs
>Velo1?
I assume you are asking me. Well, we do trade-ins, but the shipping of the item will
have to be borne by you. But on the whole, we do mainly PC110 new sales. The hot
item now is the IBM PC110 YDW config. 8Megs on board, JWin3.1, Docking Station with
floppy, 260Meg HDD, normal battery. We are cheaper than most other suppliers tho',
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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:39:25 -0600
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I downloaded the topcard switcher program and am having a heck of a time
to get it to work :( All of the info in the doccumentation file refers to
using the a: drive. Has anyone got it to work using the c: drive and if
so what exactly did you have to do to get it to work? Thanks in advance!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:52:33 PST
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Security of data in Hp200

>From:    Paolo Piovano <paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT>
>I would like to know how much it is safe storing data in the Hp200 built-in=
> software (especially Lotus 1-2-3) with a password. I mean, did anybody=
...
>I'm not interested in the method used, if any, but only if I can entrust=
> the Hp200 with my private data with an acceptable degree of security.

Paolo,
What I did was use SecureDevice and created an encrypted drive on my HP.
The encryption used is probably much stronger than anything HP built
into the LX apps.

Cheers...
Russ

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:10:49 -0500
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A previous mail eluded to an internal unit available at surplusdirect.
Here is the info from
http://www.surplusdirect.com/wwcgi.dll?23150W1GY~DisplayItem~HD5575


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IBM PCMCIA ADAPTER INTERNAL
NEW=20


$39.98

                            Item Code: HD5575
                            Enter Quantity: =20
                                                        =20

                            Is your laptop down, do you have to use the
old klunker? Slip in this adapter and the old desktop has all
                            the versatility of your laptop=85well almost.
Slip in that 56.6 modem, or the 40 MB hard drive or any
                            other PCMCIA. Allows two of style 1 or 2 or
one of style 3 PCMCIA cards and supports hot plug
                            options.=20

 Product Specs


    Model No.: ADA 246=20
    Compatibility:

      PCMCIA version 2.9 or later=20
      JEIDA version 4.1 or later=20


    Packaging: Retail Box=20
    Device Drivers:=20

      SRAM=20
      DRAM=20
      Solid state drives=20
      Modems=20
      IBM 3270 PCMCIA card

 System Requirements


    Systems: IBM or compatible, 386 or later=20
    Operating Software:=20

      OS/2 Warp 3.0=20
      OS/2 2.1=20
      DOS 5.0 or later=20
      Windows 3.1=20
      Windows 95=20


    Open Slot: 16 bit ISA=20

 Warranty


    1 year=20
    IBM Corp.; (800) 772-2227=20

 NEW=20



 Copyright=A9 1997, Surplus Software, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20




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DK KD                           http://www.concentric.net/~dskramer
DKK D  I'm quite happy to say, That the Sneeches got really quite
DK KD  smart on that day, The day they decided that Sneeches are=20
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Date:         Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:35:02 -0800
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From:         Arvidas Bajercius <bajer@IBM.NET>
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Greetings,

A Lotus Agenda mailing list would be great.  Please include me.

                                    Thanks

                                        Harv

mdstockr wrote:

> I am considering setting up a web site for users of Lotus Agenda and Symantec ACT!, including users of HP
> ______________
>
>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>            11/26/97 11:12:42 AM EST
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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:00:04 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I got my topcard switcher program fixed :) Now I was wondering if someone
could tell me exactly what size the topcard needs to be? I plan on making
some and need to know what size to crop them. Thanks in advance!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:07:08 -0500
Reply-To:     malkajef@orthohelp.com
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      1-2-3

I am no expert at spreadsheets and I need help figuring out how to do the
following  3 things in Lotus 1-2-3.

1. If one has $100 invested at say 7%, obviously the income would be
100*0.07 per year.

However how does one calculate what the purchasing value of that $7 is in
30 years if the inflation rate is 4%?  The first year it would be 7*0.96.
The following year 0.96 of that amount, etc.  Is there a @ formula or
quick way that permits me to repeat this calulation 30 times to find out
what the value would be in 30 years without having to manually enter the
calculation 30 times?

2. Getting more complicated, a similar calculation in reverse.  Suppose
one wishes to have an income of $5 a year for 30 years.  How does one
determine the necessary funds needed to achieve this for 30 years, with
the following considerations:

a) assume earning an interest rate on the funds of say 7%,

b) an estimated inflation rate of say 4% (which would therefore increase
the $5 to 5*1.04 each year)

c) a tax rate of xyz% which will be taken out of the income to leave $5

How does one solve to find the funds necessary to have today to achieve
the above?


Thanks.



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Subject:      Re: Serial cable?
Comments: To: Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> I love my new HP200lx (thanks Julie!).  What is the best way to connect this
> wonder to my (Amiga) desktop?  I don't have a PC, so the Connectivity software
> is useless to me, although I do have a 9-pin serial, 25-pin serial, and
> parallel ports at my disposal.  IRDA may be an option (still trying to track
> down the software/hardware for this).  Compatibility isn't a problem as I
> regularly swap data between my Amiga and Tandy200.
>
> What is the best (and fastest) means of transferring data?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> -- Terry
>
Since the HP200LX has a built in communications program, I would think
that the quickest and least expensive way of getting files from the HP
to an Amegia would be through the serial cable. If you don't have a PC,
don't buy the whole 'connectivity pak', just the cable. This would be
just like transfers between the Tandy and Amiga.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:55:36 +1000
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   Hello all,

   Sorry if this is too off topic question here, but I didn't
   know where else to ask.

   I have been looking at re-writable CD player/writer's.  They
   allow you to write to single write CD's once only, and
   re-writable CD's many times over (don't know if there is a
   limit).  The cost of a single use CD is 2AUD, and a
   re-writable CD is 35AUD (conversion rate to USD is not
   applicable, as these things are usually way cheaper in the US
   anyway).

   Questions

   1) If I bought a re-writable CD player/writer (IDE interface),
   is it likely to work as a reader/writer in my Palmtop?
   Ability to read large amounts of text information into the
   palmtop, and possibly back up a large stacked memory card.

   2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
   write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
   continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
   middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).

   3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?


   Thank you for your patience.

   David Eggins
   Canberra, Australia
   davee@iname.com

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:40:51 -0600
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My laptop has a PCMCIA slot. Thats a great way to manage
data on a pcmcia card.

David Eggins wrote:

>    Questions
>
>    1) If I bought a re-writable CD player/writer (IDE interface),
>    is it likely to work as a reader/writer in my Palmtop?
>    Ability to read large amounts of text information into the
>    palmtop, and possibly back up a large stacked memory card.
>
>    2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
>    write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
>    continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
>    middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:14:11 -0500
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Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> I got my topcard switcher program fixed :) Now I was wondering if
> someone could tell me exactly what size the topcard needs to be?

Topcards should be 640x200 monochrome PCX.  BTW - you will need to save
them as reverse images (B&W swapped).

Hope this helps.

PR
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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:00:03 -0500
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David

I have dealt with several CD Writers over the past year or so, and
coincidentally from my experience, HP makes one of the best ones on the
market...

I answered your questions based on my own experiences, but keep in mind that
as fast as technology changes, my information could be obsolete already!

   >1) If I bought a re-writable CD player/writer (IDE interface),
   >is it likely to work as a reader/writer in my Palmtop?
   >Ability to read large amounts of text information into the
   >palmtop, and possibly back up a large stacked memory card.

I have not seen IDE CD Writers (not to say that they don't exist).  All of
the ones that I have dealt with have been SCSI.  I think that this is due to
the fast transfer rate needed to write to a CD.

   >2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
   >write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
   >continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
   >middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).

You are correct, as far as I know, the _ONLY_ way to write to a CD is with a
continuous and FAST stream of data.  I would be very surprised if there were
a way to hook up a CD Writer to a palmtop.  Another alternative you might
want to look at is a Iomega ZIP drive (100 MB per re-writeable disk).  I
have one, and love it although I don't have a parallel port for my palmtop,
so I can't say how well it would work there.  I have seen recent discussions
on this list about connecting them, so I think it might work.

   >3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?


Again, I would be surprised if you could find one due to the fast data
transfer rate required to write to CD's.


Sean Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

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>   2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
>   write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
>   continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
>   middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).
>
This would of course depend on the speed of the laptop  However, look for
CD writers that are "multi-session" compatible, allowing you to copy a
portion of your data and then got back later to finish the job. I believe
audio/music recordings still have to be done in one go however.

>   3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?
>
Check out the new HP Surestore-plus CD-Writer. You should be able to find
specs on the HP web page.

>
>   Thank you for your patience.
>
>   David Eggins
>   Canberra, Australia
>   davee@iname.com
>
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I never seem to get junk mail.  Am I doing something right (or wrong)?

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:50:48 -0500
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On 01-Dec-97, anborg wrote:
>to an Amegia would be through the serial cable. If you don't have a PC,
>don't buy the whole 'connectivity pak', just the cable. This would be
>just like transfers between the Tandy and Amiga.

Does anyone know if I can buy one of these HP serial cables from any computer
store or Fry's, or do I need to mail-order this from one of the mail-order
houses?

Thanks!

-- Terry

p.s.  Even without loading on any new software I still love this thing!

p.p.s.  Does anyone have a solution for the best way to maintain inpatient
(updated daily) and outpatient databases?

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