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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:36:52 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data PCMCIAModem

Ok, I found the problem... I never told Microsoft to not assume that I wanted that crap in there.
Sorry about that.  :)

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From:   Larry Tachna
Sent:   Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:32 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data PCMCIAModem

I wonder why your emails come with 2 small files attached? any way to turn
that off?

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 07:00:57 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

does anyone (preferrably in Europe) have an adapter PCMCIA ->
CompactFlash that he wants to sell?
I'm looking for one, but I prefer to buy a used one because of the
pretty high prices of new adapters.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:47:22 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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If I(and others) get a mail and whant to reply to "To:" I get a message " =
Line too
long in To:.

How do I reply to everyone that have gotten this mail? - easy please.
I can not press "a" cos I only get the two first persons in th "To:"
field an I know the procedure with "File:". There are about 12 persons
that have gotten this mail (I can see this in the header)and I would like
to reply to everyone.


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:33:27 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
Organization: OE9FWV
Subject:      Re: unregulated power supply
Comments: To: Behnam Molavi <molavi20@CT-NET.NET>
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hello Behnam,

On 1 Sep 2000, at 0:04, Behnam Molavi wrote:

> Hi everybody
> What will happen if I use an unregulated power supply?Will this damage
> my 200LX?And if I use an adapter with positive polarity,will the whole
> system burn out or just the onboard power supply?

There are some people who reported damage to the HP when connected with
wrong polarity. I have a rather new unit (built in 1999) and it did not
make harm to it. But maybe older units do not have a protection against
wrong polarity. Be careful if you cannot find out if this is the case
in your Palmtop. (I tried my unit with an ampere meter in line and
control of current flowing - there was _no_ current in the wrong
polarity)
Unregulated power supplies are cheap but they deliver to high voltage,
that produces heat in your palmtop and is a waste of energy. I
recommand a switching power supply, they are small and light weight,
save energy and your Palmtop stays pretty cool and save.

73!
Werner
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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:03:47 +1100
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              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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From:         Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> In my timezone.dat there is an extra timezone for Tasmania.
> It looks like this:
>
> 3:25-31 6 0:00
> 10:1-7 6 1:00
>
> do they still have different DST in Tasmania?

I've just had a sniff around the web, and according to the South Aus
government site for this year Tasmania is having daylight saving the
same dates as NSW, Victoria and ACT, from 27/8/2000 to 25/3/2001.
South Australia is slightly different 29/10/2000 to 25/3/2001. WA, QLD
and NT don't have daylight saving.


So I guess for 2000-2001 that makes it:

NSW VIC TAS ACT
3:25-31 6 0:00
8:25-31 6 1:00
South Australia
3:25-31 6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00


I haven't yet found out the exact dates for next year (2001-2002). I
presume all states that have daylight saving will revert to the same
dates as used by South Australia. Maybe "Australia" is a better name
than "South Australia", minimises the changes next year and saves
confusion.

> The times for the european DST in your file is correct.

Thanks for that.

If anyone else has any corrections for various countries or states I
wouldn't mind knowing.

> I wanted also to add a little trick (it is not new and not from me) but
> it is good: If you want to change automatically your computer time in
> the HP, it is possible with calling the timezone program on this day.
> You can create a system makro that does this and call it as a returning
> event in the appointments program. The HP200 could do this long before
> Win 95 was born.

Thats a good idea, so simple.

Bye, Paul Johnson.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:26:53 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: sending faxes via HPLX and S35i (2)
Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Helmuth,

On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:58:19 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Does you QFax application fax Umlaute?

Yes, it does. Unforunately it's not free like BGFax is. But I fiddled
around with BGFax many hours and didn't get it to work with my Siemens
S35 :-(
But I use 2FAX (of 2BGFax) to compile the TXT to a fax and then send
the FAX file via QFAX. I find the result of 2FAX looks nicer than the
result of QFAX. Unfortunately 2FAX seems to have problems with my
signature PCX file: On the right side there is always a black bar.
Looks like this:

Daniel Hertrich|

I used the same initialization string as QFax does, but I couldn't find
out which dial string QFax uses, so I couldn't try this one.

Are you familiar with FAX dial strings? I downloaded several AT command
set sheets of the Siemens phones, but no one shows dial strings for fax
calls.

> I use BGFAX and WordPerfect for sending faxes on the road. At home
> BGFAX running on a hp200lx acts as a fax server reliable for several
> years now.

8-)
Good idea! The 200LX can be a nice little fax machine.
Yes, I also tried the /host mode of BGFAX, but this one also doesn't
work with the S35 by now - unfortunately I cannot see where the problem
is... The dial string cannot be the problem here.
I get the error message "connection not established", when I try to
send or receive faxes. Seems if my phone doesn't react to an ATA
command... BGFax shows ATA, but the phone keeps ringing...

Do you have an idea?

Thanks
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:38:40 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data PCMCIAModem
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
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>>Ok, I found the problem... I never told Microsoft to not assume
>>that I wanted that crap in there.

dont ya hate that? of course i hate to mention that this message still has
the attachments

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:02:35 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: free Internet access in France
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thank you for your help.

I got 3 hints, my choice is freesurf.fr
If it works I will post on the list in some days.

Werner


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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:17:59 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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From:         "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Help locate duplicate file utility
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

     Revisiting an issue raised back in April, 1999, another list member
wrote to me offlist asking:

>ever get a find dup program that will make sure it's the exact same
>file??

     I figured the question deserved to be answered for the entire list.

     Yes, I now have several different ways of identifying duplicates among
the files.

The latest Windows-based program from PC Magazine is a free program called
Dupeless
(ftp://ftp2.zdnet.com/pub/private/sWlIB/utilities/file_utilities/dupeless.zi
p) and it does a very good job, allowing comparisons based on size,
contents, name, and date.  It's most useful when I have the time to perform
a thorough clean-up to eliminate wasted space.  Obviously, it won't run on
the palmtop, but since I always backup to my notebook anyway, it's a
workable solution.  It's a complete environment that lets you find
duplicates and delete the copy you want.

Still another method is to use ZtreeWin (an OUTSTANDING piece of shareware,
a text-mode program written for Windows -
http://www.ztree.com/html/ztreewin.htm) and sort files by size, then compare
their contents using the supplied file comparison routine (called with the
Jfc command).  If they are identical, it says so right away.  If there are
differences, they are highlighted in a side-by-side comparison, using a
program called Tadzio's File Compare (tfc -
http://www.zedtek.com/download/tfc221.zip).  This method is most useful when
I have only a little time and I want to reclaim some disk space by attacking
the biggest targets.

On the palmtop itself, the shareware program DFL - for Duplicate File
Locator
(http://www.filelibrary.com:8080/cgi-bin/registered/download/DOS/h/50/dfl340
.zip) does a pretty good job, except that it refuses to work with the files
on drive A:, assuming it can't be a significant drive (At least that's true
of V3.40 from 1993.  If there's a newer version, I haven't seen it.).
That's a problem for my purposes because I have a large (30 MB) compact
flash card as my drive A:.  So before I run DFL I have to remember to use
'ASSIGN E:=A:'.  A second issue is its default color settings make it hard
to read.  Using MONO8025 to try to correct for this is disastrous -- the
program runs, but nothing is visible onscreen, so I just have to adjust the
screen contrast from time to time so I can read what I need to.

Sometimes the simplest tool is best.  There is an old command-line duplicate
file finder from PC Magazine (or maybe it was PC-Computing) called TwinFind
(1994).  It doesn't provide an environment for deciding which files to keep
or discard, but just produces a list you can output to a file or printer and
handle as you like.  While a later version for Windows is available online,
there doesn't seem to be a copy of the original DOS program out there
anymore.  I have a copy of this from an old CDROM, and would be happy to
supply it to you if you want.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:06:27 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Thanks for all the leads, Alan.

BTW, if you have access to a desktop version of DOS (V5 - V6), you might want to
permanently add SUBST.EXE command on your autoexec.bat to replace the
memory-hogging ASSIGN.  SUBST takes up very little TSR memory and does the same
thing.

- Longden





"Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM> on 09/01/2000 08:17:59 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Help locate duplicate file utility



On the palmtop itself, the shareware program DFL - for Duplicate File
Locator
(http://www.filelibrary.com:8080/cgi-bin/registered/download/DOS/h/50/dfl340
.zip) does a pretty good job, except that it refuses to work with the files
on drive A:, assuming it can't be a significant drive (At least that's true
of V3.40 from 1993.  If there's a newer version, I haven't seen it.).
That's a problem for my purposes because I have a large (30 MB) compact
flash card as my drive A:.  So before I run DFL I have to remember to use
'ASSIGN E:=A:'.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:34:34 -0700
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Al did not update us about his adventures in Europe either

Maybe some 1 would like to share w/us all Pan-European ISP choices

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:02:35 +0200
Subject: Re: free Internet access in France

thank you for your help.

I got 3 hints, my choice is freesurf.fr
If it works I will post on the list in some days.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:26:47 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: infrared
Comments: To: Fabiano <fabiano.teraoka@UOL.COM.BR>
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> Hi everybody!
>
> How can I make a program that print through the infrared port ? I use a HP
> 82240B infrared thermal printer and C.


Check to see if Tom's ir programs are available at his site:

http://www.rundel.net/palmtop

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:41:47 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: sending faxes via HPLX and S35i (2)
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Daniel,

> Do you have an idea?

Not yet, I use the Nokia Datacard. As soon as I do have a S?5 available
I might try.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:41:52 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: sending faxes via HPLX and S35i (2)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Daniel,

> > Does you QFax application fax Umlaute?
>
> Yes, it does. Unforunately it's not free like BGFax is. But I fiddled
> around with BGFax many hours and didn't get it to work with my Siemens
> S35 :-(

Here the original version never did!

And along with that no response from the author, although I registered
it.

Kind regards

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Longden is such a smart guy!  Maybe I'm just admiring his intelligence
because we seem to think a lot alike.  Thanks, Longden, for giving my long
note such a careful read.

He mentioned using SUBST instead of ASSIGN and, in fact, I first tried to
enter the SUBST command when I tried DFL, but found HP had not included it
in the DOS software on the ROM.  Then I tried JOIN, but it wasn't there
either.  When I had to fall back on ASSIGN, I figured everyone will have
that.

But yes, I would rather save some bytes in RAM myself, so I'll go back to my
MS-DOS 5 distribution and copy over some more pieces.

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I seem to recall reading a couple of months ago that there would be a new
update to the FAQ file, but it doesn't look like the one on hplx.net has
been changed since early 1999.

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On this very same subject;
Do anybody know if any of the new fangled scan pens
woik on da infa red and HOW?

> > Hi everybody!
> > How can I make a program that print through the
> infrared port ? I use a HP
> > 82240B infrared thermal printer and C.
>
> Check to see if Tom's ir programs are available at his
> site:


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And whatever happened to the article about the HP200LX
being used on the Space Shuttle ?
--- Surf Lx <surf.lx@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> Al did not update us about his adventures in Europe
> either
>
> Maybe some 1 would like to share w/us all
> Pan-European ISP choices
>
> ----Original Message--- Ý edited and snipped ¨
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:02:35 +0200
> Subject: Re: free Internet access in France
>
> thank you for your help.
>
> I got 3 hints, my choice is freesurf.fr
> If it works I will post on the list in some days.
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Instead of reinventing the wheel, you may want to have a look at
the IR-PRINT software which does what you want. The .exe-version
of IR-Print can even work quietly inside your own programs.

Demos can be downloaded from my web site www.rundel.net/palmtop -
just follow the software/shareware link.

Tom


On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:07:17 -0300, Fabiano <fabiano.teraoka@UOL.COM.BR> wrote:

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And whatever happened to the IBM Microdrive adaptation
to the HP200LX ?
Anyway to circumvent the firmware ?
Any freeware driver available on the Super ?

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Hi,


I'm auctioning a Sandisk 96MB CF card. Hardly used.


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=426069790

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Striegel, Alan wrote:
> He mentioned using SUBST instead of ASSIGN and, in fact,

Save even more memory, don't run either of them.
I do this and haven't missed them.

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I just purchased the Accton EN2216-1 ethernet card and am planning on
trying to connect it to the corporate LAN when I get back to work on
tuesday.
I am hoping to be able to use FTP, Telnet, WWW\Lx, HV, and Post3.0 and
if possible access network drives.
The corporate lan runs tcp/ip over ethernet.  We have NT servers and
they dont run ipx.

I have been doing some reseach and it looks like i willhave to
replace the cic100 program with LXCIC ver 2.
Run the enabler OP2216.exe.
And also the packet driver from the LXETH.zip

After this I suppose I can run www\lx, but I am
not sure if it can use dhcp or requires a
fixed ip address.

I think that would be it except for being able
to access our network drives on NT.
From the documentation I have seen I am not
sure it can be done.

Please let me know if I am on the right
track or not.
Thanks.

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Date:         Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:25:00 +0200
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Subject:      32 MB CF-Card in HP100LX ?
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Hi!

Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.

So long,

Andre.

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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 32 MB CF-Card in HP100LX ?
Comments: cc: RCS-Technik@T-ONLINE.DE

   >Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
   >does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
   >Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
   >more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.
Message-Id: <20000902041425.NJUI6375.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.163.214¨>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:14:30 +0000

I'm not sure about the specifics, but the 100LX drivers pre-date the
200LX's and it may be more a matter of the PCMCIA driver interface
incompatibility than any specific size limitation.  This would be
especially true for the CF cards which are more "modern".

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: Help locate duplicate file utility

   >> He mentioned using SUBST instead of ASSIGN and, in fact,
Message-Id: <20000902041433.NJUZ6375.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.163.214¨>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:14:37 +0000

   >Save even more memory, don't run either of them.
   >I do this and haven't missed them.

Your choice of programs has been fortunate then.  Some older programs (I
run Framework) have a problem with dealing with the A drive as anything
other than a floppy drive.  For those programs, spoofing the A drive as E
is the only solution ... and really probably the reason HP included ASSIGN
on the LX.

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I used Sandisk 48M CF in my 100LX w/o any problem.

R.S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Subject: Re: 32 MB CF-Card in HP100LX ?


>    >Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
>    >does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
>    >Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
>    >more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.
> Message-Id:
<20000902041425.NJUI6375.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.163.214¨>
> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:14:30 +0000
>
> I'm not sure about the specifics, but the 100LX drivers pre-date the
> 200LX's and it may be more a matter of the PCMCIA driver interface
> incompatibility than any specific size limitation.  This would be
> especially true for the CF cards which are more "modern".
>
> - Longden
>
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Subject:      Re: 32 MB CF-Card in HP100LX ?
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Hi friends,

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:25:00 +0200, Andre Roessel <RCS-Technik@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
> does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
> Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
> more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.

My brother uses a 64 MB Sandisc CF card in hin 100LX.
He tried a 48 MB card (if I remember correctly) and this one didn't
work.

So it seems to depend on coincidence - another list member said he uses
a 48 MB card without problems...

So TRY a card before you buy it!

GTX
daniel


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> X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requiremnts
> X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium
> From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@pobox.com>
> To: n6egj@arrl.net
> Subject: test
> X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.0

I was experimenting with wwwlx v3 by sending myself a test email via my
ham id which reroutes it back to myself.  When I received it (with v2) I
turned on headers with Alt-H out of curiosity and was surprised to see
the comment about...

   "Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requiremnts"

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Date:         Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:18:29 +0200
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Tim,

I think you are on the right track, some comments of myself see below:

>
> I have been doing some reseach and it looks like i willhave to
> replace the cic100 program with LXCIC ver 2.

Correct.

> Run the enabler OP2216.exe.

I believe this can be omitted, the later versions of LXCIC enables also
NIC cards.

> And also the packet driver from the LXETH.zip

I did it with command LXEN2216 0x66.

> After this I suppose I can run www\lx, but I am
> not sure if it can use dhcp or requires a
> fixed ip address.

If you hae fixed IP-address, set it in www.cfg, else run DHCP.EXE and
run IP-UP.BAT afterwards.

Launch WWW/LX and use any WWW/LX application (HV, POST, TELNET, PING,
FTP, FTPS, FINGER, ...).

> I think that would be it except for being able
> to access our network drives on NT.

Correct.

>From the documentation I have seen I am not
> sure it can be done.
>
> Please let me know if I am on the right
> track or not.

To remove the packet driver after your session, type TERMIN 0x66.

I made the same in our company LAN, but I use a Socket LP+E Ethernet
Card.

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Subject:      Re: 32 MB CF-Card in HP100LX ?
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   >Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
   >does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
   >Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
   >more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.

Longden wrote:

I'm not sure about the specifics, but the 100LX drivers pre-date the
200LX's and it may be more a matter of the PCMCIA driver interface
incompatibility than any specific size limitation.  This would be
especially true for the CF cards which are more "modern".

Just a thought but could there be a difference in the drivers on the ROM of
a newer vs. older 100LX?  Was there a ROM change in anticipation of the
200LX?

My $0.20,

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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 32 MB CF-Card in HP100LX ?

   >>Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
   >>does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
   >>Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
   >>more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.
Message-Id: <20000902125843.OWTS6375.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.163.67¨>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:58:47 +0000

   >Just a thought but could there be a difference in the drivers on
   >the ROM of a newer vs. older 100LX?  Was there a ROM change in
   >anticipation of the 200LX?

That could be also.  And as several people pointed out, some cards work and
some may not despite size and age differences.  It may just be that the
100LX (or maybe that particular ROM version) had drivers that were a lot
pickier whereas later ROM versions (including the 200LX) may have more
"robust" drivers to handle more variations in the PCMCIA spec.

I even had an 8mb CF card (from my Canon camera) that worked on my
unaltered 2mb 200LX, but failed to get recognized (using the same PCMCIA
adapter) on my upgraded 6mb/2x 200LX.  Go figure.

- Longden

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On 19 Aug 2000 09:07:10 -0700, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
>
> There is also a provision that causes patents to expire earlier if
> the fees associated with them are not maintained.  I'm not sure what
> these fees are or how this works.  I didn't read that far.

In order to discourage an inventor or company from using a
patent just to prevent a product from being introduced on the
market, the US Patent Office requires a fee to be paid at
regular intervals. I am not sure of the timing or the amount,
but it is a large enough amount to discourage even large
companies from maintaining patents they are not using. A good
number of the 30 patents I have obtained while working for a
large US company have been abandoned prior to 17 years due to
the requirement to pay the fee.

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On 19 Aug 2000 09:09:24 -0700, Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Hi, all! Has anyone on the list had any experience trying to recharge
> batteries for the 200LX with the Stearns Solar Battery Recharger? How worketh
> this?

I have never used this particular charger. Do you intend to
charge the batteries in your 200LX or outside your 200LX. I
would recommend removing the batteries and placing them in a
solar battery charger. You also could get a solar panel
designed for 12V output and connect that to the AC adapter port
on your 200LX, but that would be less efficient than using a
solar charger designed for AA cells.

There are a number of good solar battery chargers are 15V solar
panels at www.realgoods.com

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While cleaning out some old boxes marked for discard at my church, I came
across one old program that I saved from the trach pile, at least
temporarily.  It's called GOPHER (not the old internet application).
Apparently it is a general purpose ASCII text file management program.
I haven't studied the documentation in detail, but it purports to do
system-wide searches through all your ASCII files, plus various other
functions.

Has anyone heard of this, or even used it before?  I believe it will
run on the palmtop, as it is a standard DOS program.

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:39:46 -0500
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Anyone know how to specify a number format in Engineering Notation in
Lotus 123?  Is there some add-in that gives one additional number formats?
A little off topic from palmtops, but what about the same question, but
in Excel?

That is one problem I have when I want to use spreadsheets for engineering
work... I am so accustomed to exponents as multiples of three that I have
a hard time undertstanding numbers like 6.8000E+05 intuitively.  (Sort of
like the English vs. Metric problem here in the US... we all know what
72 deg F means, but 20 deg C is just a number.)

-Chris Lott

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>    >Tried a Kingston 32 MB CF-Card in my friends HP100LX today. It
>    >does not work! The HP cannot access the card. My HP200LX can!
>    >Does this mean the HP100LX cannot use cards with 32MB and
>    >more? With a 4MB and 10MB card there is no problem at all.
>
> Longden wrote:
>
> I'm not sure about the specifics, but the 100LX drivers pre-date the
> 200LX's and it may be more a matter of the PCMCIA driver interface
> incompatibility than any specific size limitation.  This would be
> especially true for the CF cards which are more "modern".
>
> Just a thought but could there be a difference in the drivers on the ROM of
> a newer vs. older 100LX?  Was there a ROM change in anticipation of the
> 200LX?
>
> My $0.20,


And I'll add just a glimmer of some recollection about where a card was
formatted initially?  I don't recall much but seem to remember that some
kinds of cards needed to be initialized (formatted or fdisked) on a 100
(but maybe this was an hp95 issue??) and would work.

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> And I'll add just a glimmer of some recollection about where a card
> was formatted initially?  I don't recall much but seem to remember
> that some kinds of cards needed to be initialized (formatted or
> fdisked) on a 100 (but maybe this was an hp95 issue??) and would work.
Fdisk100 says "Fdisk is not needed on Drive A:", FORMAT says
anything like "unrecognized format". In my 200LX the card worked
out of the box without formatting. Despite this I formatted it in the
200LX. The 100 would still not recognize the card. I for myself came
to the conclusion that it is a low level hardware or ROM/BIOS
problem. Both 100LX and 200LX run DOS 5.0 so that this can=B4t be
the reason.

So long,

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Roberts" <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: Solar Battery Recharger

Will a solar battery charger work on cloudy days?  Here in Massachussetts we
tend to get many days in a row where it is cloudy.

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Chris

I remember a program called Gofer - is that the one you mean?

If you use old programs it can access and convert data between most DOS
wordprocessors, database programs, spreadsheets, and FROM some desktop
publishing programs.

I haven't used it in a long time - never tried it on my 200LX - but it should
run OK.



> Date:          Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:17:54 -0500
> Reply-to:      Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
> From:          Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
> Subject:       gopher?
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> While cleaning out some old boxes marked for discard at my church, I came
> across one old program that I saved from the trach pile, at least
> temporarily.  It's called GOPHER (not the old internet application).
> Apparently it is a general purpose ASCII text file management program.
> I haven't studied the documentation in detail, but it purports to do
> system-wide searches through all your ASCII files, plus various other
> functions.
>
> Has anyone heard of this, or even used it before?  I believe it will
> run on the palmtop, as it is a standard DOS program.
>
> -Chris
>
> --
>
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> Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
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In a message dated 8/30/00 2:36:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM writes:

<< I am working on a mobile set-up and
 due to the form factor of the Palm V it may work easier  >>

Jeff:
Not exactly what you are asking for but, given your project, you might want
check our DigitalPath.com.  It allows you to adapt your screen, rather
cleverly.
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on 9/2/00 10:13 AM, Bill Krauss at Bk361kb@AOL.COM wrote:

> In a message dated 8/30/00 2:36:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM writes:
>
> << I am working on a mobile set-up and
> due to the form factor of the Palm V it may work easier  >>
>
> Jeff:
> Not exactly what you are asking for but, given your project, you might want
> check our DigitalPath.com.  It allows you to adapt your screen, rather
> cleverly.
> Bill
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Bill,

I'm curious about this adaptation, but don't get the reference to
DigitalPath.com. Can you please explain?

Thanks,

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On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 09:07:16AM -0400, Victor Roberts wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2000 09:07:10 -0700, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> >
> > There is also a provision that causes patents to expire earlier if
> > the fees associated with them are not maintained.  I'm not sure what
> > these fees are or how this works.  I didn't read that far.
>
> In order to discourage an inventor or company from using a
> patent just to prevent a product from being introduced on the
> market, the US Patent Office requires a fee to be paid at
> regular intervals. I am not sure of the timing or the amount,
> but it is a large enough amount to discourage even large
> companies from maintaining patents they are not using. A good
> number of the 30 patents I have obtained while working for a
> large US company have been abandoned prior to 17 years due to
> the requirement to pay the fee.


i'm not sure of the terms for maintainence or renewment, but iknow it
currently costs about 7,000us plus lawyers fees to register a pantent
as a company, and about half that to register as an individual.

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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
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I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
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(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
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Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
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Notes:

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I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment
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I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded
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All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

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Longden Loo wrote:
>    >Save even more memory, don't run either of them.
>
> Your choice of programs has been fortunate then.  Some older programs (I
> run Framework) have a problem with dealing with the A drive as anything
> other than a floppy drive.  For those programs, spoofing the A drive as E
> is the only solution ... and really probably the reason HP included ASSIGN
> on the LX.

I guess I should have said try running without it like I have.  HP's Rom
Autoexec.Bat uses Assign by default and many users may never question if
they can live without the E: drive it creates.

I only XCopy to the A: for backup so I don't need to run it (or Subst).

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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:
> > X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requiremnts
> > X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium

Yes, 822 requires a Date: header.

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About once a year it happens, that an email is not deleted on
my pop server. I use POST/LX, and it downloaded the email ok.
But on the next run, it says "retreiving message 1 of 1" and
exits immediately without downloading or deleting the message
again. If new messages arrive, these are downloaded and
deleted, but not the one, sticking in the box.

In this situation I used to telnet to my pop server and deleted
the message manually. But I forgot the delete command. Does
anybody know the command? I tried DEL 1, DELETE 1, but the
answer is always "unknown command".

BTW, to telnet to my pop server, I use port 110. That is, my
commandline looks like

telnet popservername 110

with WWW already running.

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Sun,  3 Sep 2000 11:48:10 +0100 (BST)

1 day 01h57m06s ago ...
On Sat,  2 Sep 2000 01:51:04 -0700, Russel Brooks wrote:

> > X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requiremn=
ts
> > X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium

AFAIK, in practice, all SMTP servers will add a Date if the client
doesn't send one. Indeed Maillennium obliged as well :) POST/LX takes
advantage of this to stay as small as possible - and still have a valid
Date inserted by the server.

If you want to force the palmtop Date to be sent then put ForceDate=3D1 =
in the
ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG.

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On Fri,  1 Sep 2000 19:07:17 -0500, Timothy P. Kelley wrote:

ÝI see that you already got an answer in this thread, but the below was
already written so sending it anyway¨

> I just purchased the Accton EN2216-1 ethernet card and am planning on
> trying to connect it to the corporate LAN when I get back to work on
> tuesday.

I use a -2 card.

> I am hoping to be able to use FTP, Telnet, WWW\Lx, HV, and Post3.0 and
> if possible access network drives.

I do all that exepct mapping drives.

> The corporate lan runs tcp/ip over ethernet.  We have NT servers and
> they dont run ipx.

Okey..

> I have been doing some reseach and it looks like i willhave to
> replace the cic100 program with LXCIC ver 2.
> Run the enabler OP2216.exe.
> And also the packet driver from the LXETH.zip

Yes you are correct. Here is what I do in a batch file:
lxcic
lxen2216 0x66
cd \
cd w
Www.exe isp_ether

This is what I use when I connect at home. I have the ip address
"hardcoded" in Www.cfg

> After this I suppose I can run www\lx, but I am
> not sure if it can use dhcp or requires a
> fixed ip address.

I run the below when I connect to the lan at school:

lxcic
lxen2216 0x66
dhcp
call ip-up
e:
cd \
cd w
Www isp_ether
lxen2216 -u

Then I get a ip address which overrides the hadcoded one in my Www.cfg.
Works great.

>
> I think that would be it except for being able
> to access our network drives on NT.
> From the documentation I have seen I am not
> sure it can be done.

Works fine..


> Please let me know if I am on the right
> track or not.

Yes you are. :-)

Good luck..

Regards

--
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:14:30 +0200, G|nther Eisele wrote:

The line above looks fine here in PE.

> Hoi,
>
> 25.08.2000, 16:07, you wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:16:06 +0200, G|nther Eisele wrote:
>
> This pipe replacement seems indeed to be a problem of the list server - or
> any other mail server which is in the queue which can't handle 8bit
> characters in the body:
>
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Yes if I send the mail as quoted printable it will work. (Has not done
it with this mail)

> > Okey. I am in a full coverage area most of my time.
>
> Don't forget that Nokia's "full coverage" differs from Siemens' full
> coverage. Siemens is a bit more 'honest' here. With the S35 I normally get
> 100% when standing in really good covered areas, like Berlin's subway or
> at the Expo.

Okey, Where do you have the Siemens more "honest" from? I have not heard
this before.

> >> Of course not for downloading huge messages (like
> >> fullquoted ones ;-))
>
> > Sorry about that :-)
>
> Ups, that wasn't for you -> but a reason why I don't read the list via
> mobile phone.

Had 99 messages in the Hplx maillist box. A lot of traffic here :-)

> >> Hell, it has to be cheap in Norway ;-)
> >> The cheapest rate you can get here in Germany is 0,15 DEM => 0,65 NOK per
> >> minute.
>
> > I got 0.6675 per minute..:-) I download one or two newsgroups in
> > addition two three mailaccounts.
>
> Ah, so it's the same price in N and D. Doesn't seem that it gets cheaper,
> they need every Pfennig for their UMTS licenses ;-)

I have a "demo subscription" because I am a dealer. For "normal" people
the cheapest price is a little higher.


Bye

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:10:32 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      All possible characters
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On the palmtop, the small font uses a 8x8 bit matrix to
represent one character. In other words: A character is one
pattern of a 64bit array, where some bits are on and others are
off. The number of all possible characters (pattern) is:

2¬64=1.84e19

On one screen, you can display 80x25=2000 different characters.

Now imagine a program which displays 2000 different characters
on one screen, waits for one second and then goes on with the
next 2000 characters. To let this programm display all possible
characters would take:

1.84e19/2000/31536000=292 471 208 years

Very primitive life on earth is estimated to be 100 million
years old. That means, this program would take longer to run,
than life exists on earth! Within this time, there will be 25
screens where you will find one of the characters a-z.

I find this very impressive!

(Note: One year has 31536000 seconds.)

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 07:23:27 -0700
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              ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: All possible characters
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MIME-Version: 1.0
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> 1.84e19/2000/31536000=292 471 208 years
> Very primitive life on earth is estimated to be 100 million years old.
> That means, this program would take longer to run, than life exists on
> earth!

The latest estimates are that life has existed on earth for significantly
more than three billion years.  For a long while it was only single-celled
bacteria, of course, but by 100 million years ago the earth was nearing
the end of the reign of the dinosaurs.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Deleting email on pop server
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> answer is always "unknown command".

It is DELE 1

or

DELE 2

I always thought it was a weird command name :-)

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:02:59 -0400
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              Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Fluff:  Re:      News for the tecno junky  - a very small PC in a
              case
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>

It says it is a real PC...the HP200lx is a real pc.

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>

Don't see any keyboard or monitor.  At tleast the 200lx has a keyboard and
screen.

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:57:19 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deleting email on pop server
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sun,  3 Sep 2000 10:10:20 -0500 (EST)

Stefan:

   Have you tried hilighting the mailbox on the main screen and
   pressing Cntl-Del? you should get a dialog box asking if you want to
   delete all messages on the server. Works for me when I accidently
   delete a long message header.

   Cheers...AJKind


02h42m24s ago ...
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> About once a year it happens, that an email is not deleted on
> my pop server. I use POST/LX...>
*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Deleting email on pop server
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On Sun,  3 Sep 2000 12:27:56 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

> About once a year it happens, that an email is not deleted on
> my pop server. I use POST/LX, and it downloaded the email ok.
> But on the next run, it says "retreiving message 1 of 1" and
> exits immediately without downloading or deleting the message
> again. If new messages arrive, these are downloaded and
> deleted, but not the one, sticking in the box.
This happens to me too sometimes.

I then use the menu option "D'load and delete" (In File). It will
ofcourse download the message that you already have again, but it
"solves" my problem. :-)

Regards

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:18:08 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Deleting email on pop server
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Al,

>    Have you tried hilighting the mailbox on the main screen and
>    pressing Cntl-Del? you should get a dialog box asking if you want to
>    delete all messages on the server. Works for me when I accidently
>    delete a long message header.

That is one of the alternatives to Telnet/LX. I use it too.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:21:57 -0400
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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For me the main problem with Quicken versions before '98 is that the
bill pay feature will not work.
I am planning to run Quicken 98 Deluxe on the desktop (for bill payment)
and pocket quicken on the palmtop (for tracking cash expenses)

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

I should just revert to Quicken version 4, but it won't carry mortgages
past the year 2027, so a 30 year mortgage with a start date after 1997
isn't correct. I think there are some other y2k issues as well, but if I
remember right, they could be worked around pretty easily.

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:38:36 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: All possible characters

   >> Very primitive life on earth is estimated to be 100 million years
   >>old.  That means, this program would take longer to run, than life
   >>exists on  earth!
Message-Id: <20000904013847.JGNK13787.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.231.195¨>
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:38:51 +0000

   >The latest estimates are that life has existed on earth for
   >significantly more than three billion years.  For a long while it
   >was only single-celled bacteria, of course, but by 100 million
   >years ago the earth was nearing the end of the reign of the
   >dinosaurs.

I thought primitive life on earth was before the LX ... around the end of
the reign of the mainframes.

- Longden (who also has nothing productive to do this weekend)

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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:04:20 +0800
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From:         LEONG FOO TEK <leongft@YEOS.COM.MY>
Subject:      Re: Help locate duplicate file utility
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>>memory-hogging ASSIGN.  SUBST takes up very little TSR memory and does >>the
same
>>thing.
>>
>>- Longden


SUBST.EXE does not take up any TSR memory, does the same thing as ASSIGN but
needs the flash card to be inserted.


Regards,
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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:36:22 -0400
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              Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
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From: "Longden Loo" <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> I thought primitive life on earth was before the LX ... around the end of
> the reign of the mainframes.

That was a good one...wish I had thought of it.

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:48:19 -0700
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Subject:      Subst Command
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>SUBST.EXE does not take up any TSR memory, does the same thing as >ASSIGN
but needs the flash card to be inserted.

So is the proper syntax SUBST A: E: or SUBST E: A: or ???

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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:00:47 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Deleting email on pop server
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Stefan,

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:27:56 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> About once a year it happens, that an email is not deleted on
> my pop server. I use POST/LX, and it downloaded the email ok.
> But on the next run, it says "retreiving message 1 of 1" and
> exits immediately without downloading or deleting the message
> again. If new messages arrive, these are downloaded and
> deleted, but not the one, sticking in the box.

I have that problem, too. Sometimes.
But I also didn't figure out why and how I can solve it (acvept by
deleting the message manually).

> In this situation I used to telnet to my pop server and deleted
> the message manually. But I forgot the delete command. Does
> anybody know the command? I tried DEL 1, DELETE 1, but the
> answer is always "unknown command".

What OS runs on the other side? What mail program do you use?

If it's a Linux or Unix machine on the other side, call the mail
program

mail

then let it show the headers with

h

then see what number the message has (probably 1 if it6S the only one
in the box)

then delete it with

d 1

and exit with

quit

That's it.

If there runs another OS, I don't know how to delete a mail manually.
Good luck

daniel


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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:26:52 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Subst Command
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It should be SUBST E: A:\  to associates a path in drive A: to virtual drive E:.
Another good tip about the SUBST command is to use it to substitute lengthy path
names to any virtual drives.

Regards,
Leong
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Subject:    Subst Command
Author: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date:       9/4/2000 12:48 PM

>SUBST.EXE does not take up any TSR memory, does the same thing as >ASSIGN
but needs the flash card to be inserted.

So is the proper syntax SUBST A: E: or SUBST E: A: or ???

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Date:         Sun, 3 Sep 2000 10:05:04 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Subject:      Re: Networking
Comments: To: "Timothy P. Kelley" <kelley@WT.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Do You whant to connect to Your "Intranet" or Internet.Do You have a =
firewall?
If You do You might not be able to get outside Your LAN.
We have a firewall but some ports are open. I can not send mail via my
ordinary ISP popserver. I have to send it through my works popserver.
Have a look in Netscape or IE what popserver it uses and use that in
WWW/LX. I am able to retrive mail from my ISP without any problem.
So i have made a extra mail box in post/lx wich only sends email from
behind our firewall.

I think You have DHCP. If not You must ask for a IP.
From a dos window, run ipconfig /all to see Your settings on a NT
machine.

To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on the PC
You whant to reach.

Timothy P. Kelley wrote:
> I am hoping to be able to use FTP, Telnet, WWW\Lx, HV, and Post3.0 and
> if possible access network drives.
> The corporate lan runs tcp/ip over ethernet.  We have NT servers and
> they dont run ipx.
>

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 04:28:54 -0400
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              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: free disk space in DOS environment variable
Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Below the source. INP.COM (EDLIN < inp.scr creates a TEMP.BAT
file WITHOUT the ENTER redirecting the piping to INP.COM

@ECHO OFF
SET freebytes=0
DIR | FIND "free" | INP CALL $free.BAT>NUL
ECHO SET freebytes=%%1>$free.BAT
CALL TEMP.BAT
$free.BAT
REM :===== Report =====
ECHO %freebytes% bytes free
:EOF

So "DIR | FIND "Free" | INP call $free.bat" is creating
TEMP.BAT with line:

  CALL $free.bat  <number>

<number> is derived from the DIR and filtered by FIND and
eventually collected by INP.COM and dumped into TEMP.BAT as
"CALL $free.bat <number".

In the bat-file above I ECHOed and created the file
"$free.bat" like:

 ECHO SET freebytes=%%1>$free.BAT

in order to bring the <number> into the DOS variable
"freebytes".

On request I can sent someone the INP.COM as well.

Harry WELLNER, Netherlands

N INP.COM
E 144 "TEMP.BAT",0
A 100
MOV     DX,0144               ; file name
MOV     AX,3C00
MOV     CX,0
INT     21                    ; create file
PUSH    AX                    ; file handle in stack
MOV     CH,00
MOV     CL,Ý080¨              ; length of command string
JCXZ    11F                   ; skip if no command line
DEC     CL                    ; drop first char (space)
POP     BX                    ; get file handle
PUSH    BX
MOV     AH,40
MOV     DX,082                ; command string offset
INT     21                    ; write to file
MOV     AH,0A
MOV     DX,0144
MOV     BYTE PTR Ý0144¨,50    ; max. length of 80 characters
INT     21                    ; input string
MOV     CH,00
MOV     CL,Ý0145¨             ; length of string
POP     BX                    ; get file handle
PUSH    BX
MOV     AH,40
MOV     DX,0146               ; input string offset
INT     21                    ; write to file
POP     BX
MOV     AH,3E
INT     21                    ; close file
MOV     AX,4C00
INT     21                    ; exit to dos

R CX
4D
W
Q

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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:56:03 +0200
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

hello all from Paris,

as you see, the Internet Access with freesurf.fr works very good.
I had some Problems first because the wiring of the RJ11 Plugs seems
not to be compatible and in my hotel there is a very old telefone
system, but in another hotel I got an adapter from the friendly
concierge and now I have access and it is very quick.

Regards,
Werner

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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:54:40 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Siemens S35 or Nokia 8210 for IRDA and voice?
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Hello Martin,

Sunday, September 03, 2000, 2:25:36 PM, you wrote:

>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

> Yes if I send the mail as quoted printable it will work. (Has not done
> it with this mail)

Maybe, maybe not, as some mail servers translate it back to 8bit.

> Okey, Where do you have the Siemens more "honest" from=3F I have not heard
> this before.

I have this from the Nokia and Siemens ngs and it's my personal
experience. Sometimes I can't make a phone call with the Nokia stating
40%. When Siemens shows >0% it means you can make a call. If you know your
phone, this is no problem of course.

Bye
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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:17:45 +0200
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Hello Russel,

Saturday, September 02, 2000, 10:49:48 AM, you wrote:

> I was experimenting with wwwlx v3 by sending myself a test email via my
> ham id which reroutes it back to myself.  When I received it (with v2) I
> turned on headers with Alt-H out of curiosity and was surprised to see
> the comment about...

>    "Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requiremnts"

In V2 you can force a date via

ForceDate=3D1

in the ÝSystem¨ section of your post.cfg

Check

http://www.dasoft.com/tnt.htm#post

for more details.

Bye
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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:37:37 -0500
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> Do You whant to connect to Your "Intranet" or Internet.Do You have a =
firewall?

I wanted to connect via hv to the internet, and with ftp, and telnet to
the intranet.  It seems that ftp will be the only way to move files
around.

> If You do You might not be able to get outside Your LAN.
> We have a firewall but some ports are open. I can not send mail via my

Our firewall blocks port 25 for outgoing pop traffic.

> ordinary ISP popserver. I have to send it through my works popserver.
> Have a look in Netscape or IE what popserver it uses and use that in
> WWW/LX. I am able to retrive mail from my ISP without any problem.
> So i have made a extra mail box in post/lx wich only sends email from
> behind our firewall.


We have DHCP servers. So there is a command for the lx called dhcp.exe
that i can download from SUPER?

> I think You have DHCP. If not You must ask for a IP.
> >From a dos window, run ipconfig /all to see Your settings on a NT
> machine.
>
> To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on the PC
> You whant to reach.

I have a windows 2000 machine.  I may ask the telecom guys what would
happen if i installed ipx.  I know they dont like anything but ip on
our network.

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Tony Hutchins <nospam@UNDECIMUS.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:
> AFAIK, in practice, all SMTP servers will add a Date if the client
> doesn't send one. Indeed Maillennium obliged as well :) POST/LX takes
> advantage of this to stay as small as possible - and still have a valid
> Date inserted by the server.
>
> If you want to force the palmtop Date to be sent then put ForceDate=1 in the
> ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG.

Given that the functionality is there, waiting to be enabled by a
setting in a configuration file, I wonder how this helps POST/LX stay
small.  But it's purely curiosity as I don't do e-mail from the
palmtop (save using it as a terminal).

However, as a counter-example: I remembered stories about TGV (which
used to be in the TCP/IP for VMS business) running a VMS-based SMTP
server that would reject non-822-conformant mail, so I inquired with
some friends who used to work there, and it turns out that one of its
developers continues to run that SMTP server within his new company.
I was e-mailed a captured session of it rejecting a message without a
Date: header.  Perhaps fortunately, not many SMTP server authors have
the same design criteria, and this particular server is apparently not
very widespread in ISP environments today.

More importantly, the Date: header in an 822 message should be
generated by the the program that the user is using to compose the
message and commit it for sending, because that program knows when the
user took action to send the message, and the transport agent may not.
Suppose you've come home from a night on the town and by 3:30 AM have
managed to compose your ravings as an e-mail message, but are too
tired/drunk/high to get the X-Jack connector to pop out so don't
actually dial up your ISP and hand the message off to the SMTP server.
The following afternoon, having sort of slept it off, you discover the
palmtop and remember that you use it to get e-mail, but not remember
much of the events of the previous night, so that you go get all the
bits connected and dial up.  Your forgotten message of 3:30 AM now
gets sent, say at 2:15 PM.  Which Date: would you rather have had on
the message, to improve your chances of successfully making excuses?

-Frank McConnell, with a head cluttered full of Internet trivia

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I use a Nextel  (Motorola) i1000+ iDen phone and it is supposed to have a
modem built in.  They sell an adapter to connect the phone to a PC serial
port for it.  Does anyone know if this will work with my 200LX, and with ANY
dial-up service? Or must it be used only with Nextel"s online services?  I
have asked my sales rep but he didn't know and hasn't gotten back to me with
an answer yet.

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:21:44 -0500
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When this happens to you. There is a file created called
mail.old. In it is the email id of the message that has not
been fully downloaded and deleted.

On subsequent runs, what you can do is delete the mail.old (or
whatever mailbox it is in) and the whole message will be
downloaded again - and if all goes well, it will also be
deleted on the POP3 server after the download is successful.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

Stefan Peichl wrote:
> About once a year it happens, that an email is not deleted on
> my pop server. I use POST/LX, and it downloaded the email ok.
> But on the next run, it says "retreiving message 1 of 1" and
> exits immediately without downloading or deleting the message
> again. If new messages arrive, these are downloaded and
> deleted, but not the one, sticking in the box.
>
> In this situation I used to telnet to my pop server and deleted
> the message manually. But I forgot the delete command. Does
> anybody know the command? I tried DEL 1, DELETE 1, but the
> answer is always "unknown command".
>
> BTW, to telnet to my pop server, I use port 110. That is, my
> commandline looks like
>
> telnet popservername 110
>
> with WWW already running.
>
> Stefan
>
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Subject:      Re: RFC822 minimum requirements
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Hello Frank,

Monday, September 04, 2000, 5:32:18 PM, you wrote:

> Given that the functionality is there, waiting to be enabled by a
> setting in a configuration file, I wonder how this helps POST/LX stay
> small.

Hehe, you got him ;-)

> gets sent, say at 2:15 PM.  Which Date: would you rather have had on
> the message, to improve your chances of successfully making excuses=3F

Interesting point. My normal (standard compliant) mailer sets a date, so I
normally don't have the choice. An advantage of the own date is that you
_know_ that you set the correct date and time - you can't be sure if the
mail server does this right (summertime, 29 Feb 2000 etc.).

Bye
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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:06:52 +0100
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Mon,  4 Sep 2000 19:41:16 +0100 (BST)

02h41m41s ago ...
On Mon,  4 Sep 2000 08:59:35 -0700, Frank McConnell wrote:

> Given that the functionality is there, waiting to be enabled by a
> setting in a configuration file, I wonder how this helps POST/LX stay
> small.  But it's purely curiosity as I don't do e-mail from the
> palmtop (save using it as a terminal).

Frank, you are right of course, the ForceDate=3D1 functionality was
added, making POSt.EXE bigger. It was smaller before that :)

> More importantly, the Date: header in an 822 message should be
> generated by the the program that the user is using to compose the
> message and commit it for sending, because that program knows when the
> user took action to send the message, and the transport agent may not.

It makes no difference really - with ForceDate=3D1 the Date: header is
given a body *when* the message is *sent*, not when it is was composed.
This date should be roughly co-eval with the timestamp that the SMTP
server could provide.

Does your client date-stamp the message *when* it is composed? I would
have thought if you were concerned about that you'd just put a date on
the message body.

> Your forgotten message of 3:30 AM now
> gets sent, say at 2:15 PM.  Which Date: would you rather have had on
> the message, to improve your chances of successfully making excuses?

As I said it makes no difference with POST/LX - you'd get 2:15 PM :)

Tony

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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:52:09 +0000
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Longden Loo wrote:
> ... around the end of the reign of the mainframes.

End?  Ha!!  What do you think all the really big jobs run on?

Cheers... Russ    (IBM'er and Mainframe lover; bigger can be better
even if it can't fit in your pocket.)

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Frank McConnell wrote:
> Tony Hutchins <nospam@UNDECIMUS.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:
> > AFAIK, in practice, all SMTP servers will add a Date if the client
> > doesn't send one. Indeed Maillennium obliged as well :) POST/LX takes
> > advantage of this to stay as small as possible - and still have a valid
> > Date inserted by the server.
> >
> > If you want to force the palmtop Date to be sent then put ForceDate=1 in the
> > ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG.
>
> Given that the functionality is there, waiting to be enabled by a
> setting in a configuration file, I wonder how this helps POST/LX stay
> small.  But it's purely curiosity as I don't do e-mail from the
> palmtop (save using it as a terminal).

One part of the answer is that the less stuff is in the CFG
file, the less memory the CFG file takes in memory. That
memory is EXTREMELY precious.

Also obviously it is clear as "Duh!" that the program is not
smaller. That function is there, period. However, the CFG in
memory may be smaller!

The second part of the answer has to do with the timezone
setting and the whole date setup in millions of clients vs.
setting it up in a few thousand SMTP servers. Clearly, it is
easier to do in a few thousand servers. Andreas argues that it
is easier for the few servers to do - in the grand scheme of
things - than for millions of email clients.

It is a logical argument, although in reality it is not
adopted by ISPs - some, but not all.

The issue for ISPs is to make the servers run as efficiently
as possible, and shaving ANY instruction is a popular move
with them. Interpreting RFC822 regarding the date to say that
it is the obligation of the client shaves instructions from
the server, and so they adopt that interpretation.

BTW, the RFC text is not THAT cut and dry.

And in fact, that is why the Force-Date is there.

> However, as a counter-example: I remembered stories about TGV (which
> used to be in the TCP/IP for VMS business) running a VMS-based SMTP
> server that would reject non-822-conformant mail, so I inquired with
> some friends who used to work there, and it turns out that one of its
> developers continues to run that SMTP server within his new company.
> I was e-mailed a captured session of it rejecting a message without a
> Date: header.  Perhaps fortunately, not many SMTP server authors have
> the same design criteria, and this particular server is apparently not
> very widespread in ISP environments today.

Precisely why there _is_ ForceDate= in the program.

> More importantly, the Date: header in an 822 message should be
> generated by the the program that the user is using to compose the
> message and commit it for sending, because that program knows when the
> user took action to send the message, and the transport agent may not.
> Suppose you've come home from a night on the town and by 3:30 AM have
> managed to compose your ravings as an e-mail message, but are too
> tired/drunk/high to get the X-Jack connector to pop out so don't
> actually dial up your ISP and hand the message off to the SMTP server.
> The following afternoon, having sort of slept it off, you discover the
> palmtop and remember that you use it to get e-mail, but not remember
> much of the events of the previous night, so that you go get all the
> bits connected and dial up.  Your forgotten message of 3:30 AM now
> gets sent, say at 2:15 PM.  Which Date: would you rather have had on
> the message, to improve your chances of successfully making excuses?

The RFC calls for the timestamp of sending, not composition.

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Comments: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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>>> Given that the functionality is there, waiting to be enabled by a
>>> setting in a configuration file, I wonder how this helps POST/LX stay
>>> small.

>>Hehe, you got him ;-)

not so fast I don't think they are talking about file size but the amount of
system memory needed by the app to load and run, by not using certain
options the program doesn't need to allocate as much system memory at run
time

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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:08:36 +0100
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I have been using LXTCP and PNR for e-mail on the HPLX. I have now
purchased a license of WWW/LX 3, but cannot connect to my ISP.

I have read all the WWW documentation, and have tried adding a delay of
2 seconds to the CHAP_Script, but this did not solve the problem.

The messages I see are:
  Initializing modem
  Dialing ....
  Connected 9600 (I've turned down the speed, just in case this might be
                  the problem)
  Starting PPP negotiation
    Negotiating LCP: ...long sequence of up and down arrows...Aborting!
  Hanging up
  Exiting

How can I pin down the problem?

I've tried to connect with datacom, but I only see garbage.

My LXTCP config file looks like this, in case this helps:
  com2
  57600
  modem
  crtscts
  asyncmap 0
  user ....
  passwd ...
  connect "chat -f chat.scr"
  namsrv ...
  namsrv ...

Thanks in advance,
Paulo Custodio

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test

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>AportisDoc PDF Converter for Windows takes any Adobe
>Acrobat PDF document, extracts the text and converts it to
>AportisDoc format so that it can be read on your handheld.
>An AportisDoc (Doc) viewer on your handheld is required to
>view the converted document. Adobe PDF (Portable
>Document Format) is the software standard that has
>revolutionized the traditional publishing industry. Adobe
> Acrobat is not required.
>
<http://www.aportis.com/tryme/download/AportisDoc/aportisdocpdfconverter.html>



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Hi friends,

> >AportisDoc PDF Converter for Windows takes any Adobe
> >Acrobat PDF document, extracts the text and converts it to
> >AportisDoc format so that it can be read on your handheld.
> >An AportisDoc (Doc) viewer on your handheld is required to
> >view the converted document. Adobe PDF (Portable

unfortunately, such a viewer doesn't seem to be available for DOS... :-(
Otherwise this would be extremely interesting.
Thanks for the link!

GTX
daniel

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Anyone knows if this modem/Ethernet NIC can be used on the
palmtop? Any idea about NIP driver for it that works on the
Palmtop? I cannot find the datasheets for this device... TIA

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Subject:      Re: AportisDoc files Is there an HPLX reader for these?
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Hello Daniel,

Wednesday, September 06, 2000, 10:32:27 AM, you wrote:

>> >AportisDoc PDF Converter for Windows takes any Adobe
>> >Acrobat PDF document, extracts the text and converts it to

> unfortunately, such a viewer doesn't seem to be available for DOS... :-(

a similar functionality is provided by sending the pdf file to

pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu

or

pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu

Even in the html version no pictures are converted and sent back, so the
documents remain quite small.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:52:59 GMT
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I try to open timelogr.wk1 from super on my german LX.
When I open the file, 123 tells me:

"Unbekannter Tasten/Bereichsname (...) (BB75)"

in english:

"Unknown key/areaname (...) (BB75)"

What have I to do, to enable a german LX to read an english Worksheet?

-goe-
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:31:34 +0200 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?=
<guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> writes:
> Wednesday, September 06, 2000, 10:32:27 AM, you wrote:
> >> >AportisDoc PDF Converter for Windows takes any Adobe
> >> >Acrobat PDF document, extracts the text and converts it to
> > unfortunately, such a viewer doesn't seem to be available for  DOS...
:-(
>
> a similar functionality is provided by sending the pdf file to
> pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu
> or
> pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu

That's the best way to go.   But If you still want to go the Aportis way,
just
download DOCREAD from SUPER.   It will let you read Palm doc files on
the hplx.    Doc files are compressed, so it saves some space, but to
save
even more space, keep all your text files in a zipped file, and use
xfinder to
read them (also on SUPER).

HTH

Domingo

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Hello all
I have some JPGs on an 8 meg smartmedia card that I cannot read.
I inserted the card (in a pcmcia adaptor) in my MAC 520 powerbook and got
a "unreadable disk, format?" message. Since then I have tried the card in
several other pcmcia devices (200LX, omnibook 425, external USB reader)
with no sucess. I tried running some disk utoilities on the MAC but the
old copy of Norton Utilities I have couldn't even see the card.

Has anyone had any luck with retrieving data from these cards?

Any possible suggestions? (I've got a thinkpad 560 with WIN98 on order)

I'd even be willing to compensate someone for trying to retrieve the files
if someone out there has more comprehensive software/hardware/experience

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
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has anyone had any luck in using the ibm microdrive in the 200lx?

markj

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Subject:      Does this mean you're abandoning us, Jeff?

From Federal Computer Week:

************************************************************
Small, simple computers for cops on the go
************************************************************
PocketCop -- which runs on Palm VII but will soon also run on
Palm V -- lets officers tap into state and federal databases and
run queries on vehicles, people, stolen articles and guns.
http://www.fcw.com/civic/articles/2000/september/civ-mkt2-09-00.asp


Now we know why he was asking about Palms earlier!

Jon

Jon Barrett
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Jon Barrett wrote:

> ************************************************************
> Small, simple computers for cops on the go
> ************************************************************
> PocketCop -- which runs on Palm VII but will soon also run on
> Palm V -- lets officers tap into state and federal databases and
> run queries on vehicles, people, stolen articles and guns.
> http://www.fcw.com/civic/articles/2000/september/civ-mkt2-09-00.asp

Also check out www.cybercop-software.com :-)

Jeff

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I think the current 340/170mb models are supposed to use too much current for
the PCMCIA slot.

I don't recall if any actually posted trying the drive (I think they did), but
there have definitely been no confirmed successes.

I'm still waiting for the 1gig model due in a few weeks/months, which sports
lower power usage ... that one may have a better chance.

- Longden





Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> on 09/06/2000 07:04:34 AM

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has anyone had any luck in using the ibm microdrive in the 200lx?

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> I think the current 340/170mb models are supposed to use too much current for
> the PCMCIA slot.

Don't forget that you can use DoubleSlot if you need increased power to
a PCMCIA device than the 200LX can provide.

-Chris



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Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:10:25 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hi Everyone,

Please be patient with us if you ordered a palmtop or sent one in a repair.
We have been kept very busy testing, cleaning, refurbishing palmtops as they
come in from Holland, doing our normal repair and upgrade business, and
processing new orders.  There has been a pent up demand for palmtops, and
orders have come in faster than expected. Unfortunately, it takes new
trainee's 2 to 3 months to come up to speed, so we can't really hire anyone
for the short run.

So, we are REALLY thankful for your patience with us. If I were a customer,
I would like to know the status of my order, but it would really help a lot
if you didn't call in to ask where is my palmtop.  We are probably 3 weeks
behind processing new orders, although we have tried to keep to our normal
one week turn-around repair and upgrade commitment.

All pre-orders have been filled.

Thanks again for your understanding.

Hal at Thaddeus
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That'd be cheating ... and what's the fun in that? <g>

The 1GB model due in retail channels this month is supposed to require about
250mA during writes, which is higher than the 150mA max for the slot ... but I'd
like to see exactly how bad that is.   No figures are available for read power
consumption, but it should be less ... and 1GB of reference material on my LX
ain't so bad either.

- Longden





Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> on 09/06/2000 07:47:58 AM

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Subject:  Re: ibm micordrive



> I think the current 340/170mb models are supposed to use too much current for
> the PCMCIA slot.

Don't forget that you can use DoubleSlot if you need increased power to
a PCMCIA device than the 200LX can provide.

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so it will fit (in the slot) it's just the power consumption and any driver
issues?

markj

>
>I don't recall if any actually posted trying the drive (I think they did),
but
>there have definitely been no confirmed successes.
>

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The card can be bought with the IBM PCMCIA adapter, so it should fit, tho I've
heard some remarks to the effect that it's a tight one (for the LX).

If this is the case, it may require shaving a bit of plastic off the bottom edge
of the slot to get it inside.

I don't know if this is workable, not having handled one myself.  But I may get
a Microdrive anyway to use on an Omnibook ... and will probably then have an
opportunity to try it on the LX.  The drive sounds like standard ATA, so no
drivers should be needed, tho again ... the proof is in the pudding.

- Longden





Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> on 09/06/2000 09:17:53 AM

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Subject:  Re: ibm micordrive



so it will fit (in the slot) it's just the power consumption and any driver
issues?

markj

>
>I don't recall if any actually posted trying the drive (I think they did),
but
>there have definitely been no confirmed successes.

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Wed,  6 Sep 2000 14:25:14 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   I just put up the August Logs from the HPLX-L on the web site.

   Good news forthcoming regarding Searchable archives ;-)

   Cheers...

*
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What kind of AAA was the TrgPro using?

Even with the 200LX, we know that high drain activity such as PCMCIA modem use,
will deplete alkalines fairly quickly, and yet be tolerated quite well by NiMH
cells.

I'm not an LX "internalist" myself either.  I always figured it for magic.

- Longden





ddvteach@juno.com on 09/06/2000 11:20:09 AM

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu, Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  Re: ibm micordrive




The card has been reported to work just fine on the TrgPro Palm (the
one I use).   This device supports the power requirements of the card,
and all type II CF cards.  *BUT*, once you plug it in, your brand new,
fresh batteries (2 AAA) will last a couple of minutes at most).  :-p

I was thinking, in so far as my CF card causes a somewhat noticeable
drain on the batteries of my TrgPro, but causes no noticeable drain
whatsoever on my HP200LX, wouldn't it be easier to somehow modify
the internals of the HPLX to provide additional support to the high-drain

cards?

How hard would that be?  (this opinion is of course based on my
observations above, not in any knowledge of the guts of the hplx).

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              Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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For those that missed my post a while back, I have tried the 340 meg
Microdrive in my 200LX and TRG Pro.  It fits easily in both.  The LX does
not have enough juice to run it.  With alkalines half gone in the TRG, it
forced the unit to reset.  I'm sticking to CF for my palm units and using
the Microdrives for my cameras.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:04:35 -0500
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Someone asked a few days ago about the HP 200LX on the shuttle.  Ed Keefe
just finished putting up the 2000 issues of The HP Palmtop Paper which means
all 8.5 years worth are up and searchable.  The article on the shuttle is
at:

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/51/51000019.htm

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Many of us have Palms.   No one in their right mind would say
that they are better than their HP200LX.    But I am
beginning to think that I was not the only one who ran out to
get a Palm as soon as the backlight project was cancelled.  :-)

I am still hoping for a backlight for my HP200LX, though.

Domingo

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In a message dated 9/6/00 11:21:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM writes:

<< Please be patient with us if you ordered a palmtop or sent one in a repair.
 We have been kept very busy testing, cleaning, refurbishing palmtops >>

Yes, Hal,  we'll all be patient.  All of us are grateful for what you & your
team have always done for the LX community in the past and continue to do
(hopefully for ever).
Great news about the strong demand for the Dutch palmtops.  Bodes well for
the future.

Bill

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I have found a replacement for my HPLX (a Toshiba Libretto 100CT, double
speeded just like my trusty HP 200LX) and have found that my days of using
the HPLX are done. It was an incredibly effective tool, and when you look at
the durability of the machine in the face of revolutionary improvements in
technology it points to a time when HP built truly wonderful equipment. For
me, the HPLX's time has passed, and based on some of the technical support
problems that I have had  with recent HP purchases, I am convinced they are
no longer the same company as well.

If there is anyone who would like to take on the mantle of "Developer, Chief
Software Engineer, and Guru" for ccLXPOP or Free Form Data Base (FFDB), let
me know. I'll be on the list for a couple more days at least -  this list
has been the most helpful and useful list I have been involved with (also
the first). If anyone is interested in my perceptions of the Libretto as a
replacement, I'll send those as well.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "D Dv" <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
> Many of us have Palms.   No one in their right mind would say
> that they are better than their HP200LX.    But I am
> beginning to think that I was not the only one who ran out to
> get a Palm as soon as the backlight project was cancelled.  :-)
>
I did not get a palm...my wife bought me an HP545..  I still think the
HP200lx is the best out there, nothing even comes close to it   The HP545 is
very limited in what it can do..it (or nothing) will ever ever ever replace
the HP200lx.

The HP545 is lmited it what it can do...HP is limited it what it can do to
support it...and windows CE is limited in what it can do.  After the
flexibility of the HP200lx...these limitations will be hard to live with.

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:10:34 -0700 Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
writes:
> The card can be bought with the IBM PCMCIA adapter, so it should fit,
> tho I've heard some remarks to the effect that it's a tight one (for
the LX).
>
> If this is the case, it may require shaving a bit of plastic off the
> bottom edge of the slot to get it inside.
>
> I don't know if this is workable, not having handled one myself.
> But I may get a Microdrive anyway to use on an Omnibook ... and will
probably then
> have an opportunity to try it on the LX.  The drive sounds like
standard
> ATA, so no drivers should be needed, tho again ... the proof is in the
pudding.

The card has been reported to work just fine on the TrgPro Palm (the
one I use).   This device supports the power requirements of the card,
and all type II CF cards.  *BUT*, once you plug it in, your brand new,
fresh batteries (2 AAA) will last a couple of minutes at most).  :-p

I was thinking, in so far as my CF card causes a somewhat noticeable
drain on the batteries of my TrgPro, but causes no noticeable drain
whatsoever on my HP200LX, wouldn't it be easier to somehow modify
the internals of the HPLX to provide additional support to the high-drain

cards?

How hard would that be?  (this opinion is of course based on my
observations above, not in any knowledge of the guts of the hplx).

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:02 PM
Subject: A fond farewell


> I have found a replacement for my HPLX (a Toshiba Libretto 100CT, double
> speeded just like my trusty HP 200LX) and have found that my days of using
> the HPLX are done. It was an incredibly effective tool, and when you look
at
> the durability of the machine in the face of revolutionary improvements in
> technology it points to a time when HP built truly wonderful equipment.
For
> me, the HPLX's time has passed, and based on some of the technical support
> problems that I have had  with recent HP purchases, I am convinced they
are
> no longer the same company as well.

The time may have passed for the HP200lx...but he time has not come yet for
any other handheld devices.  I liked the full flexibility of the HP200lx...I
have yet to find a single device that even comes within a million miles of
touching the flexibility of  HP200lx.

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D Dv wrote:
> Many of us have Palms.   No one in their right mind would say
> that they are better than their HP200LX.    But I am
> beginning to think that I was not the only one who ran out to
> get a Palm as soon as the backlight project was cancelled.  :-)

Speaking of non-LX and backlight... my friend bought a Casio
Caseopia(sp?).  It has a color display that is gorgeous! It is also
backlit and has several intensity levels.  It is WinCE and the batteries
last about 5.5 hours.  He plugged in a 340mb microdrive to hold his mp3
files (it plays mp3s too) and the batteries dropped to about 1.5 hours.
He switched to the Casio from a Palm.

I'm sticking with my 200LX-32m but that display did impress me.

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Question - What do I need to use NiMH batteries in my LX? I would like to be
able to recharge my batteries *in the LX*, and I am not interested in buying
any exp. software

Thanks,

Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "Longden Loo" <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: ibm micordrive


> What kind of AAA was the TrgPro using?
>
> Even with the 200LX, we know that high drain activity such as PCMCIA modem
use,
> will deplete alkalines fairly quickly, and yet be tolerated quite well by
NiMH
> cells.
>
> I'm not an LX "internalist" myself either.  I always figured it for magic.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> ddvteach@juno.com on 09/06/2000 11:20:09 AM
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu, Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: ibm micordrive
>
>
>
>
> The card has been reported to work just fine on the TrgPro Palm (the
> one I use).   This device supports the power requirements of the card,
> and all type II CF cards.  *BUT*, once you plug it in, your brand new,
> fresh batteries (2 AAA) will last a couple of minutes at most).  :-p
>
> I was thinking, in so far as my CF card causes a somewhat noticeable
> drain on the batteries of my TrgPro, but causes no noticeable drain
> whatsoever on my HP200LX, wouldn't it be easier to somehow modify
> the internals of the HPLX to provide additional support to the high-drain
>
> cards?
>
> How hard would that be?  (this opinion is of course based on my
> observations above, not in any knowledge of the guts of the hplx).
>
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--- D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> > > unfortunately, such a viewer doesn't seem to be
> available for  DOS.. :-(
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Ken, I fully agree on that what you are saying. I've tried them all ?? Palm,
Jornadas, Psion, Sharp and so forth again there is really nothing which can
touch the flexibility of the 200LX, I just came from a database session with
it, outstanding this little machine. You can forget them all, all windows, CE
and so on.

I still can't believe it why HP has done this to their LX community, cancel
the 200LX .I doubt that the sales figures of the Jornadas will ever reach the
success of the LX, does anyone have info on that ?? If they want it or not
the 200LX will survive with or without backlight !! I strongly believe it and
lets all fight for it it is worth to do it, that little machine!!
By the way is the chairwoman on the mailing list, may we should >>

greetings to all 200LX users from me, Michael Berrier

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I want to see how what old useful DOS software there is in my old IBM
XT, but the EGA  monitor display has shrunk to a garbled two inch wide
band at the top of the screen. On Sunday last I got a HP VGA monitor at
a charity fete and an older monitor, which had been attached to a
Commodore Amiga, which may be a CGA; it has a  nine pin D shaped female
socket which looks compatible with the XT. I tried a few places today
for a nine pin cable, but only saw VGA (12 pins). A bit more searching
will probably turn up an old cable, but is it possible to adapt the XT
(which runs DOS 3.0) for the VGA monitor. Any suggestions please?

TIA

Richard

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:28:18 +0800
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              2000
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A big thank you to Hal, Ed Keefe and the team from all of us.

At 01:04 PM 9/6/00 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote:
 >Someone asked a few days ago about the HP 200LX on the shuttle.  Ed Keefe
 >just finished putting up the 2000 issues of The HP Palmtop Paper which means
 >all 8.5 years worth are up and searchable.  The article on the shuttle is
 >at:
 >
 >http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/51/51000019.htm
 >

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>I have some JPGs on an 8 meg smartmedia card that I cannot read.
>I inserted the card (in a pcmcia adaptor) in my MAC 520 powerbook and got
>a "unreadable disk, format?" message. Since then I have tried the card in
>several other pcmcia devices (200LX, omnibook 425, external USB reader)
>with no sucess. I tried running some disk utoilities on the MAC but the
>old copy of Norton Utilities I have couldn't even see the card.
>
>Has anyone had any luck with retrieving data from these cards?

I have an Olympus digital camera with 8 and 32 MB SmartMedia cards. I
purchased the PCMCIA adapter and have absolutely no problem reading
the card to transfer images to my PowerBook.

I suspect you have somehow corrupted the card.

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:15:08 -0400 "Ken" <KenLondon@beld.net> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D Dv" <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
> > Many of us have Palms.   No one in their right mind would say
> > that they are better than their HP200LX.    But I am
> > beginning to think that I was not the only one who ran out to
> > get a Palm as soon as the backlight project was cancelled.  :-)
> >
> I did not get a palm...my wife bought me an HP545..  I still think
> the HP200lx is the best out there, nothing even comes close to it   The

> HP545 is very limited in what it can do..it (or nothing) will ever ever
ever
> replace the HP200lx.
>
> The HP545 is lmited it what it can do...HP is limited it what it can do
to
> support it...and windows CE is limited in what it can do.  After the
> flexibility of the HP200lx...these limitations will be hard to live
> with.

From a machine point of view, the new Pocket PC's are probably
better than the Palms.   My reasons for supplementing my hplx with a
Palm instead of a Wince machine are:

1-Battery life comparable to the HP200LX (somewhat), with off the shelf
batteries.
2-Compact flash support (TrgPro only).
3-Incredible third-party support.
   and, after the fact,
4-iSilo!! Since this is not a Palm list, I will not gloat about it.
Suffices
to say that I no longer read etexts on my hplx.  I have the hplx manual
and the entire hplx palmtop paper in iSilo format in my TrgPro, with
plenty
of room to spare (it preserves all the html links and images!).   It has
the highest
compression ratio of any Palm etext format.

Domingo (well, I guess I did gloat a little)  :-)

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This message is being composed & sent on a Palm V (gasp). My LX is still
in.use but the Palm is filling a need or me. It definitely has some
benefits. It works well with my Qualcomm 860 & is extremely small :-)

Jeff
jeffj@notachance.com

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Sacrilege!  Welcome to the dual platform productivity community.

73s,

Colin

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This message is being composed & sent on a Palm V (gasp). My LX is still
in.use but the Palm is filling a need or me. It definitely has some
benefits. It works well with my Qualcomm 860 & is extremely small :-)

Jeff
jeffj@notachance.com

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:29:20 -0700 Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
writes:
> What kind of AAA was the TrgPro using?

AFAIK, regular alkalines.

> Even with the 200LX, we know that high drain activity such as PCMCIA
modem use,
> will deplete alkalines fairly quickly, and yet be tolerated quite  well
by NiMH
> cells.

Well, the 200LX will last an hour or two with a PCMCIA modem, the TrgPro
with
Microdrive, a minute or two (not useful).   A CF modem will have better
luck in a
TrgPro, but will not last as long as in the 200LX.

> I'm not an LX "internalist" myself either.  I always figured it for
magic.

The amazing thing with you is your patience.   A few months ago someone
asked a question about an Andreas product, I think.   Avi answered once.
In the very same week about 4 different people asked the exact same
question!
You simply repeated the same answer  each time, without scolding.   Now,
that's magic.

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Ken
I just put the batteries in and used as normal.
I've used radio shack Ni-MH and am now using Olympus Ni-MH.
I charge in the computer as always and it seems to work fine.
I have got some "battery error" messages but re-setting the batteery type
seems to make it happy.
Someday I may try using one of the battery charging programs to optimize
the charging profile for the batteries but for now it seems to work
fine...
My one concession to "battery conditioning" is to keep the other pair of
olympus  batteries (they come in sets of 4) in my flashlight so they do
get fully discharged every now and then. When the fklashlight goes dead I
charge the batteries in an external charger (made for Ni-MH) and swap them
into the 200LX.

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:20:01 -0400
From: Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
Question - What do I need to use NiMH batteries in my LX? I would like to
be able to recharge my batteries *in the LX*, and I am not interested in
buying any exp. software
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I believe they require special drivers and I have not heard of
DOS versions of these drivers.

  Avi

Mark Johnson wrote:
> has anyone had any luck in using the ibm microdrive in the 200lx?

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Longden,

Longden Loo wrote:
> I think the current 340/170mb models are supposed to use too much current for
> the PCMCIA slot.

I think that is correct.

> I'm still waiting for the 1gig model due in a few weeks/months, which sports
> lower power usage ... that one may have a better chance.

Already out since Sept. 1, and I am using one of these 1GB
drives, but not on a palmtop. Price now is $499. Supplies may
be hard to come by, since they are just now filling the supply
pipelines. Price will probably drop to the $350 (that's $0.35
per Megabyte, folks!) range in 6 months.

The Palmtop simply ignored it - and I believe it is because it
needs some special driver. Runs with no problems on W98.

It is exactly like a Compact Flash type I except thicker, thus
CF Type II. Requires a special CF Type II adapter which then
fits neatly into the Palmtop slot. If a driver exists to run
it in the Palmtop that would be extremely cool. I currently
use a 512MB PCMCIA ATA and despite valiant attempts, it has
not been filling up! <g>... But a 1GB on board would be just
too, too cool! <VBG>

In case you do not know, there is also a 512MB Microdrive
released at this time, $399, I believe. This adds to the 340MB
and 170MB. This is an amazing miniaturization: inside is an
actual rotating disk drive. When you hold it, it is hard to
believe <g>... I understand there are larger capacities in the
works at some level of development.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:44:59 -0500
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Mark,

In itself it won't exactly fit because it is a CF format. But
there is an adapter where it fits, and that becomes a PCMCIA
Type II which fits fine in the slot. Aside from power (?) I
believe you have driver problem too.

  Avi

Mark Johnson wrote:
> so it will fit (in the slot) it's just the power consumption and any driver
> issues?

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Longden Loo wrote:
> The card can be bought with the IBM PCMCIA adapter, so it should fit, tho I've
> heard some remarks to the effect that it's a tight one (for the LX).

No problems at all in the fit. The adapter comes _with_ the
drive.

> If this is the case, it may require shaving a bit of plastic off the bottom edge
> of the slot to get it inside.

Nothing like that is needed.

> I don't know if this is workable, not having handled one myself.  But I may get
> a Microdrive anyway to use on an Omnibook ... and will probably then have an
> opportunity to try it on the LX.  The drive sounds like standard ATA, so no
> drivers should be needed, tho again ... the proof is in the pudding.

Haven't tried it on W95, but it was recognized immediately on
W98.

  Avi

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Russel,

> Speaking of non-LX and backlight... my friend bought a Casio
> Caseopia(sp?).  It has a color display that is gorgeous! It is also
> backlit and has several intensity levels.  It is WinCE and the batteries
> last about 5.5 hours.  He plugged in a 340mb microdrive to hold his mp3
> files (it plays mp3s too) and the batteries dropped to about 1.5 hours.
> He switched to the Casio from a Palm.
>
> I'm sticking with my 200LX-32m but that display did impress me.

Please have a look at that display when the sun shines on it. And please
let me know your impression then.

Kind regards

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:12:47 +0100
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i wonder if the "morphy one" will be able to supply that amount of power? if
we ever get a look at one!!

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:17:14 +0800
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On 6 Sep 2000, Ken Hansen wrote:
 >
 >Question - What do I need to use NiMH batteries in my LX? I would like to
 >be able to recharge my batteries *in the LX*, and I am not interested in
 >buying any exp. software
 >

The first thing to do would be to get a suitable 12v power adaptor with
negative center (see diagram on bottom of LX).  I am using the Part HP
F1011A power adaptor, which delivers 12v regulated supply, to charge the
batteries in the LX.   Thaddeus is selling them at
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/Store.htm

Get a pair of AA NiMH batteries.  Some brands offer up to 1600 mAh high
capacity ones.

For software there are some excellent freeware that can be downloaded from
the SUPER site.  I am using Peniel Romanelli's Charge-It! battery charging
controller/monitor.

I also use a 416 byte BAT.COM from Jorgen Dybdahl's Charging, which can
show the state (in percentages) of your main and backup batteries in the LX.

Thanks to the help of the list members here, I have learnt that it is best
to allow the NiMH batteries to drop to around 2.3 to 2.4 volts before
charging again.  A pair of NiMH should last several years in the LX.

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Hi michael
I understand that Microsoft stopped HP from continuing to use
DOS as it was competing too successfully with WinCE

That is what stopped the HP200LX so suddenly - the MS Monopoly
again!

Cheers
John

Michael Berrier wrote:

> I still can't believe it why HP has done this to their
> LX community, cancel the 200LX

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hi Jeff,

on 3 Sep 2000, at  10:03, Jeff wrote about
"Re: Deleting email on pop server":

> On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> > answer is always "unknown command".
>
> It is DELE 1
>
> or
>
> DELE 2
>
where can I get a list of POP Server commands?
I already know user, pass, list, dele....
but I still cannot read /  download.

txs,


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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:41:56 -0400
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:04:08 +0200, "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@gmx.net> wrote:

> where can I get a list of POP Server commands?
> I already know user, pass, list, dele....
> but I still cannot read /  download.

Some POP servers allow you to enter a help command to get mail you would use
'get (message number)'.

Jeff

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There is some awesome freesoftware and free service provided by Proxiweb
that allows you to enter a URL in the broswer on a Palm then have that info
sent to the Proxiweb servers where the info is fetched then reformatted and
sent back to the Palm in graphical format. It also allows for SSL and
cookies. It really is a great service, I wonder if their services could be
adapted for use with the Lx?

Jeff

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This is the same issue confronting Omnibook users.  The 800CT has a
knock-your-socks-off TFT color display, but suffers from two things: 1) lower
battery life and poor visibility in daylight conditions.

Compared to the early Omnibooks (300-530, which all had non-backlit mono screens
... ala LX) the 800's color display (even at full intensity) is a plain washed
out embarrassment in bright sunlight, where the mono screens perform MUCH
better.

This is an issue still being thought out in the PDA industry.  A PDA with
dual-display capability (ie reflective mono and TFT color) with no size, weight
and power penalty ... now there's a display to die for.  Until then, we each
choose our own poison.

- Longden





"Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> on 09/06/2000 11:12:45 PM

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Subject:  Re: Does this mean you're abandoning us, Jeff?



> Speaking of non-LX and backlight... my friend bought a Casio
> Caseopia(sp?).  It has a color display that is gorgeous! It is also
> backlit and has several intensity levels.  It is WinCE and the batteries
> last about 5.5 hours.  He plugged in a 340mb microdrive to hold his mp3
> files (it plays mp3s too) and the batteries dropped to about 1.5 hours.
> He switched to the Casio from a Palm.
>
> I'm sticking with my 200LX-32m but that display did impress me.

Please have a look at that display when the sun shines on it. And please
let me know your impression then.

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From: "John" <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
> I understand that Microsoft stopped HP from continuing to use
> DOS as it was competing too successfully with WinCE


I suspected that something like that was behind the dumping of the HP200lx
by HP.

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I agree with Andrew.  You just use the NiMH in the LX and change Setup
(Ctrl-Filer/F9) to "Nickel Cadmium".

I use ABC/LX to manage the charging (in my LX), but there are freeware utilities
also on SUPER that do much of the same ... and the software isn't necessary for
the batteries to work, but they help you to get the most usage time out of your
cells with the least amount of work.

I've also used the Olympus Camedia NiMH AA's mentioned by Andrew ... and they
are excellent (1450mAh).

- Longden





Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU> on 09/06/2000 09:31:29 AM

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Subject:  Re: Ni-MH batteries in 200LX, no problem



I just put the batteries in and used as normal.
I've used radio shack Ni-MH and am now using Olympus Ni-MH.
I charge in the computer as always and it seems to work fine.
I have got some "battery error" messages but re-setting the batteery type
seems to make it happy.
Someday I may try using one of the battery charging programs to optimize
the charging profile for the batteries but for now it seems to work
fine...
My one concession to "battery conditioning" is to keep the other pair of
olympus  batteries (they come in sets of 4) in my flashlight so they do
get fully discharged every now and then. When the fklashlight goes dead I
charge the batteries in an external charger (made for Ni-MH) and swap them
into the 200LX.

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:20:01 -0400
From: Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
Question - What do I need to use NiMH batteries in my LX? I would like to
be able to recharge my batteries *in the LX*, and I am not interested in
buying any exp. software

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> > I understand that Microsoft stopped HP from continuing to use
> > DOS as it was competing too successfully with WinCE
>
> I suspected that something like that was behind the dumping of the HP200lx
> by HP.

I'd like to hear about more information on this matter.  Do you have a
source or reference you could provide?

-Chris

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It figures that Avi is the "first on the block" with this <g>.

I'm disappointed to hear that it doesn't work "out of the box" on the LX, tho
I'm still hopeful that a DOS driver will appear soon.

If may just be that the CF+ spec differs enough from PCMCIA/CF to cause a burp.
I'd be interested in hearing IBM's view on it, since I thought they were still
supporting PC-DOS in general.

Another test would be to try it on an older Omnibook (300-530) which runs DOS
5-6 ...  if it runs there, it might be a power issue.

- Longden





A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> on 09/06/2000 09:44:45 PM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
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Subject:  Re: ibm micordrive



> I think the current 340/170mb models are supposed to use too much current for
> the PCMCIA slot.

I think that is correct.

> I'm still waiting for the 1gig model due in a few weeks/months, which sports
> lower power usage ... that one may have a better chance.

Already out since Sept. 1, and I am using one of these 1GB
drives, but not on a palmtop. Price now is $499. Supplies may
be hard to come by, since they are just now filling the supply
pipelines. Price will probably drop to the $350 (that's $0.35
per Megabyte, folks!) range in 6 months.

The Palmtop simply ignored it - and I believe it is because it
needs some special driver. Runs with no problems on W98.

It is exactly like a Compact Flash type I except thicker, thus
CF Type II. Requires a special CF Type II adapter which then
fits neatly into the Palmtop slot. If a driver exists to run
it in the Palmtop that would be extremely cool. I currently
use a 512MB PCMCIA ATA and despite valiant attempts, it has
not been filling up! <g>... But a 1GB on board would be just
too, too cool! <VBG>

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:13:21 +0200
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> --- D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> > > > unfortunately, such a viewer doesn't seem to be
> > available for  DOS.. :-(
> OS/2er have another option:
> Forwarded from the Warpcast mailing list
> -------------------------------------------------------
> TEAM OS/2 Russia is proud to anounce the first release
> of Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF) to HyperText
> Markup Language (HTML) conversion tool.
>
> You can download it for free at:
>   http://teamos2.ru/files/pdftohtml-0.22.zip
First Post (i'm using and upgrading the 200LX since the beginning, and hope
somebody clever designs a i386 compatible mainboard
which fits in the 100LX/200LX housing)

There is even a DOS version of this PDF to HTML tool!!!
http://www.ra.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~gosho/pdftohtml/Download/binary/p
df2html.exe

Great, now only one to convert from HTML to plain TXT

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<<I suspected that something like that was behind the dumping of the HP200lx
by HP.>>

Here are the reasons why I think HP dumped the HP 200LX

1.  HP never marketed it.
  a. Corvallis didn't know how / didn't have money.
  b. When Singapore took over, it poured profits into creating/marketing
OmniGo then Windows CE devices.  NIH (Not invented here) for Singapore.
They didn't have any of the engineers that created the HP 200LX and I
suspect they never got complete documentation.

2.  Singapore felt that the 200LX platform would never hit big time like
DeskJets etc -- millions of units per year.  Too geeky. They felt that an
"industry standard" O.S. was essential for PDA's to hit big.

3.  With no marketing (actually negative marketing since in the last years
they didn't even tell people where they could buy it, and retailers said it
wasn't sold any more), and no commitment, sales plummeted the last couple of
years.

4. Older parts such as screens became very hard to get/ very expensive to
purchase in relatively small quantities.

5.  HP wanted to put all its efforts in to marketing CE devices.

-----

Personal comments -- HP Jornada 680 -- nice machine in many ways but too
bulky
HP Pocket PC 540 -- has a lot of redeeming characteristics and its potential
reminds me of the HP 200LX.

However, the HP 200LX wins

a. Size
b. Durability
c. Keyboard
d. Replaceable anywhere, long lasting batteries.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:12:08 +0200
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Hi friends,

could someone please email me a copy of find.exe that works with the
palmtop's DOS version?

Thank you
daniel

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The big advantage I see in the Libretto is that I have a full up Windows
capable machine with me - I don't need to do anything different, and I don't
have to make any compromises. While I thought the HPLX is a great tool - but
there were a lot of things I could not do. I could not enter data for use
with Quicken 2000, I could not browse the web, I could not access my 128 bit
SSL secured Webmail that I need to access for work, and I could not look at
the attachments I received in email if they were Office type documents. I
find the Libretto is an acceptable compromise with respect to how I use the
unit as both a PDA and a laptop.

The double speed upgrade was not difficult to do, though it is a bit harder
than the HPLX double speed upgrade. The upgrade simply requires soldering a
jumper on the mother board, but the area is small, and concentrated. I did
have to use a magnifying glass after soldering to inspect the work for
adequacy. There is a web page that provides excellent directions on how to
do the upgrade, and I would be happy to answer any questions.

Cost of the unit - I bought mine on ebay for a bit more than $700, and then
paid $89 to upgrade the memory from 32MB to 64MB. The memory upgrade install
is simple, just a snap into place card. Unit has two PCMCIA slots as well.

Overall, I am very happy with the unit. I think that the utility provided by
the increased hardware is a better compromise for me than the HPLX. Don't
get me wrong - I still think the HPLX is the best PDA out there - it outdoes
the Libretto with the instant on feature - but for me, this is the best
compromise so that I carry only one machine. If there are particular issues
that  I didn't answer or you have further questions, let me know.

Thanks to Gerhard Gonter for volunteering to take over FFDB and ccLXPOP.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:18:52 -0400
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I received about 7 requests for info on the Libretto, so I thought I would
put it on the list. As with any review, it is important to understand the
biases of the reviewer, so I'll provide some background.

My requirements are as follows:
1. Form factor - I require the unit to fit into a standard day planner,
along with a standard 8x5 steno pad.
2. Batteries must provide one full day of use - I don't have a problem with
having to charge every night - though I haven't had to do that necessarily.
3. Ability to synchronize with Outlook efficiently.
4. Keyboard input - I looked at the PocketPCs, but was unimpressed with the
ability to input information into the unit. This was one of the HPLXs great
strengths.
5. Quick wake up time.
6. (Optional) Office suite application capability.

The Libretto meets all of the requirements, some better than others. The
used unit I bought came with two of the extended life Lithium Ion batteries,
and I get about 4 hours of 'on time' use from each one - I have yet to need
more than one for a whole day, and actually had one last four days.

My system configuration is as follows: 64MB memory (max allowed for 100CT),
2 GB Hard drive, Windows 2000, Office 2000, Quicken 2000, and a couple of
other cats and dogs. I performed the double speed upgrade of my unit (more
on that below) which is now a 266MHz Pentium MMX Processor. I plan on
putting a bigger hard drive in it soon, but still have over 500Mb of free
disk space.

Windows 2000 is great overall (I use it on my home desktop and have yet to
crash it) and great on this machine. All  of the power management functions
are built in, and with the BIOS update for the 100CT that Toshiba has
available on their web site, Windows 2000 interfaces seamlessly with the
Libretto. I simply open the display to turn it on, and close the display to
put the unit in standby. The standby mode take VERY little power, on the
order of 3-4 percent of the battery over 10 hours. Wake up time WITH THE
DOUBLE SPEED is an acceptable (though many of you will find exception to
this) 12 seconds. There is a similar unit (Casio Fiva) which actually has
better hardware than the Libretto overall, but their BIOS does not support
the standby mode, so there is a two minute boot up process- that is
obviously unacceptable. I have not found the twelve second delay onerous or
even bothersome.

The display is simply fantastic. I have yet to find an environment where I
could not clearly see the display - and this has included a window seat in
sunlight on a plane. I could see the display fine. It is an unusual
dimension (800x480 pixels) in full 24 bit color. With the port replicator I
think you can drive a standard 800x600 display, though I have not tried
this. The "mouse" is an Accupoint device next to the display, with the right
and left buttons on the top of the lid. I find that it is not as easy to use
as a mouse, but certainly not hard to use. The keyboard is not as easy to
use as the HPLX, but it is still better than the handwriting input required
for the HPCs. I think that as I get more accustomed to the keyboard it will
become no more difficult than the HPLX.
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<<
> What kind of AAA was the TrgPro using?
AFAIK, regular alkalines.
>>

Then it's possible that the TrgPro might do better than a minute or two using
NiMH (tho AAA size might be harder to come by ... and does the TrgPro offer
in-unit charging as with the LX .... it'd be a pain to change the batteries out
every day or so, even to recharge).

<<
The amazing thing with you is your patience.   A few months ago someone
asked a question about an Andreas product, I think.   Avi answered once.
In the very same week about 4 different people asked the exact same
question!
You simply repeated the same answer  each time, without scolding.   Now,
that's magic.
>>

That's not magic .... that's parenthood <g>.  Truth be told, I look at the
d:\bin\fdisk100.exe program as my own ... "fdiskloo"  (fdiskLOO)

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:32:05 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Goldstein" <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
> Here are the reasons why I think HP dumped the HP 200LX
>
> 1.  HP never marketed it.
> Personal comments -- HP Jornada 680 -- nice machine in many ways but too
> bulky
> HP Pocket PC 540 -- has a lot of redeeming characteristics and its
potential
> reminds me of the HP 200LX.


I don't think I ever saw anything resembling an ad for the 200lx.  I
strongly suspect that HP dumped the 200lx because it was too good for
Microsoft.  Since HP needed to deal with Microsoft, HP sacrificed the
HP200lx to maintain relations with Microsoft.   I have no source for this
information...it is a gut feeling that I have.

My wife got me an HP545 for our anniversary.  I had a problem with Money
having duplicate files.  I found that HP doesn't know what they are doing
with Windows CE.  I called customer support at HP and the woman (who spoke
very bad English) made the problem worse instead of better.  I finally fixed
the problem by ignoring everything HP customer support told me.

The HP545 has absolutely no similarity to hp200lx.  Compared to
DOS...windows CE has no flexibility.   HP is in a bad situation...they don't
understand Windows CE and they are stuck with the limitations of Windows CE.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:33:41 -0700
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--- Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET> wrote:
> Question - What do I need to use NiMH batteries in my LX?
> I would like to be able to recharge my batteries *in the
LX*, and I am not interested in buying any exp. software
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
>
Nuttin cept da batts.....


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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:17:52 -0400
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hello LXers,

I'm sorry to bother the group with fluff but this group is savvy  (sideba=
r:
I just looked up the spelling of savvy in my Collins Dictionary via
hp200lxl) in many areas and I have a question.

I have 2 pop 3 mail accounts, 1 of which is a compuserve account. I keep
the compuserve account at the $9.95 for 5 hours because of the local phon=
e
access across the country and because many people have that address in
their address books. My other account is from a local ISP and has become =
my
main account, which I use daily via Outlook Express. Outlook Express
delivers mail from both my accounts when I log on.

I accidentally discovered that I can start Outlook Express while compuser=
ve
is active and online. Outlook comes up normally but doesn't dial and give=
s
me my mail and web access. I didn't think this would work but I am
delighted it does. I really prefer Outlook Express over the compuserve
software. Things like clicking on links in email are just too handy. Now
when I travel I still get my local phone call internet access without the=

clunky compuserve software.

The opposit works too. I can start my old compuserve software on top of a=
n
Outlook Express session and log right in, no dialing. This is handy for
occaisional forum access and a few other things.

Does anyone know why this works? Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:32:31 -0400
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:17:52 -0400, Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> Does anyone know why this works? Thanks in advance.

Compuserve like AOL provides a PPP connection that you can take advantage
of. Many people start AOL and then minimize it and use their own browsers
and mail clients (for POP accounts).

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:51:08 +0200
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hello Avi,

thanks for the hint with the POP3 RFC. I found it here:
http://www.cgi.interbusiness.it/RFC/POP3/1939.txt

Jeff,
your email adress in your posting bounces, is this wanted as a
spam filter or a bad configured DNS?

73!
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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:00:57 -0400
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:51:08 +0200, "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@gmx.net> wrote:

> Jeff,
> your email adress in your posting bounces, is this wanted as a
> spam filter or a bad configured DNS?

Must be a bad DNS on your end :( It works just spiffy here :)

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:51:16 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Mon,  4 Sep 2000 13:54:40 +0200, G=FCnther Eisele wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> Sunday, September 03, 2000, 2:25:36 PM, you wrote:
>
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> > Yes if I send the mail as quoted printable it will work. (Has not =
done
> > it with this mail)
>
> Maybe, maybe not, as some mail servers translate it back to 8bit.

This should be sent as quoted pritable. But not sure what the
maillistserver does though..

> > Okey, Where do you have the Siemens more "honest" from? I have not =
heard
> > this before.
>
> I have this from the Nokia and Siemens ngs and it's my personal
> experience. Sometimes I can't make a phone call with the Nokia stating
> 40%. When Siemens shows >0% it means you can make a call. If you know =
your
> phone, this is no problem of course.

Okey. I see. Was this a 8210 vs S35 "battle" or was it S35 vs a Nokia
With "external" antenna?

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:51:23 -0400
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On Mon,  4 Sep 2000 08:37:37 -0500, Timothy P. Kelley wrote:

> > Do You whant to connect to Your "Intranet" or Internet.Do You have a firewall?
>
> I wanted to connect via hv to the internet, and with ftp, and telnet to
> the intranet.  It seems that ftp will be the only way to move files
> around.

I have no experince with Ftp/lx other than connecting to my main
machine with ftp when I run a Ftp server on the main computer. Works
okey.


> > If You do You might not be able to get outside Your LAN.
> > We have a firewall but some ports are open. I can not send mail via my
>
> Our firewall blocks port 25 for outgoing pop traffic.

Okey..can not help here..

> > ordinary ISP popserver. I have to send it through my works popserver.
> > Have a look in Netscape or IE what popserver it uses and use that in
> > WWW/LX. I am able to retrive mail from my ISP without any problem.
> > So i have made a extra mail box in post/lx wich only sends email from
> > behind our firewall.
>
> We have DHCP servers. So there is a command for the lx called dhcp.exe
> that i can download from SUPER?

You will find DHCP.exe on http://www.dasoft.com

> > I think You have DHCP. If not You must ask for a IP.
> > >From a dos window, run ipconfig /all to see Your settings on a NT
> > machine.
> >
> > To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on the PC
> > You whant to reach.
>
> I have a windows 2000 machine.  I may ask the telecom guys what would
> happen if i installed ipx.  I know they dont like anything but ip on
> our network.

If you are lucky they will be amazed what you Hplx can do And help you
connect :-)

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Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:33:11 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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On 7 Sep 2000, Thomas Pottjegort wrote:
 >
 >Great, now only one to convert from HTML to plain TXT
 >

You should be able to do that easily by loading the HTML document in your
browser and save as text.  This will be fine for page by page conversions,
unless you are looking for an utility to convert a multi-page HTML document
with linkages into text at one go.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:55:18 -0400
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Subject:      Re: I still can't believe why HP cancelled the HP200LX
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Hello,

I just wish HP would come out with a model that would allow the user to select a
desired OS. While DOS is great, I wouldn't mind having a more modern OS in say a
690 format machine. Unfortunately, HP forces WinCE on us if we desire a newer
palmtop. I for one will stay with the 200LX until I can't repair it any longer,
hopefully for years to come. WinCE is far too limited for my taste.

William E. Blankenship

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I bought my 200lx (originally a 95lx) purely to use as a toy.  I
wanted to be able to do programming wherever I went.  It's worked
out beautifully for that.

I had little need for a PDA but before I retired I did use it to
keep phone numbers and a few appointments and it served a purpose.
If I was still working I'd probably use a Palm for that, being so
much lighter and adaquate to my simple needs.  But programming isn't
much fun on a Palm so it would probably stay on my desk and my 200lx
would be in my pocket when I wasn't at work.

Now everyone is trying to find a replacement and I guess we all
agree that nothing else has the flexibility and power of the 200lx
(with the possible exception of the Libretto, which is too big and
has a short battery life).  You can get something smaller.  You can
get something more powerful.  You can get something cheaper.  You
can get something lighter.  But the 200lx is still the most powerful
machine that will fit in an average pocket.

I guess we all agree that the Palm isn't powerful enough and the
WinCE stuff is both not powerful enough but also too expensive, too
hard on batteries and there is too little software available.

The problem is that people don't really want any of these.  The
200lx is too heavy to be comfortable in your pocket and most people
really do hate (or fear) dos.  It ain't gonna fly as the machine
everybody uses.  The Palm seems closer to that must have machine,
but it's not really powerful enough and the one you can read easily
is a little tough on batteries.  WinCE or PocketPC really isn't in
the running yet.

I think the answer is that they're still working on the problem.
They haven't built the right device yet.  Nobody even knows yet what
it'll look like.  Probably nothing like what we're using now.  Palm
and 200lx and WinCE are all experiments.

It's silly to think that HP has abandoned the 200lx community.
There aren't enough of us for HP to even notice on their way to
capturing the interest of the world.  They won't think they have a
good thing until everybody has one.  That's the prize and nobody's
even come close to it yet.   In the meantime, all devices are
temporary.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:22:50 -0400
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Longden:

Longden Loo wrote:
> It figures that Avi is the "first on the block" with this <g>.

ROFL... I was actually testing it for a customer. They also
had me test a 440MB and a 512MB ATA flash cards. At the end
they simply said here, keep it. I still got paid. I am very
nice to them :) ...

> I'm disappointed to hear that it doesn't work "out of the box"
> on the LX, tho I'm still hopeful that a DOS driver will
> appear soon.

I would not hold much hope for it. The real issue then will be
the power, which could be mitigated by the double slot or
other external power. Still, that makes the whole portability
of the palmtop simply vanish.

I rather think that the PCMCIA prices of the very large cards
(Sandisk sports a 660, 880 and 1.2g) will continue to drop,
and that will be the route to go.

Why Sandisk requires a driver on the 440MB is beyond me. I
have a 512MB by MCT which requires no driver.

> If may just be that the CF+ spec differs enough from PCMCIA/CF
> to cause a burp. I'd be interested in hearing IBM's view on
> it, since I thought they were still supporting PC-DOS in
> general.

I think the internals are RADICALLY different between a CF and
the Microdrive - one is static the other is a mechanical
rotating disk. It is my understanding that IBM has larger
drives that require a lot less power still. They could
possibly make the controller look like an ATA then. I don't
think IBM targets this for DOS market, so I am really not
certain a DOS driver will appear.

> Another test would be to try it on an older Omnibook (300-530) which runs DOS
> 5-6 ...  if it runs there, it might be a power issue.

I do not have one, and no, I won't send my Microdrive out to
be tested :) ...

  Avi

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Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:03:09 +0200
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Hi friends,

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:44:45 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> In case you do not know, there is also a 512MB Microdrive
> released at this time, $399, I believe. This adds to the 340MB
> and 170MB. This is an amazing miniaturization: inside is an
> actual rotating disk drive. When you hold it, it is hard to
> believe <g>... I understand there are larger capacities in the

Did you guys ever see the inside of a microdrive? I did :-)
On the Expo (Hannover) I took a few pictures. If you're
interested, I can put them on the web so you can see how such a
microdrive looks inside.

GTX
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Hi friends,

please stop now to send me any copies of find.exe! ;-)
I have several copies now.

Thanks to the people who sent me find.exe or the offer to send me
find.exe  :-)

GTX
daniel



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Daniel wrote:

>Did you guys ever see the inside of a microdrive? I did :-)
>On the Expo (Hannover) I took a few pictures. If you're
>interested, I can put them on the web so you can see how such a
>microdrive looks inside.

Yes please !!

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Yes, but go ahead and post the pictures on your website - I am
sure many people are curious.

  Avi

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:44:45 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
> > In case you do not know, there is also a 512MB Microdrive
> > released at this time, $399, I believe. This adds to the 340MB
> > and 170MB. This is an amazing miniaturization: inside is an
> > actual rotating disk drive. When you hold it, it is hard to
> > believe <g>... I understand there are larger capacities in the
>
> Did you guys ever see the inside of a microdrive? I did :-)
> On the Expo (Hannover) I took a few pictures. If you're
> interested, I can put them on the web so you can see how such a
> microdrive looks inside.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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ello,

>>
>> Our firewall blocks port 25 for outgoing pop traffic.
>


don't you have a internal mail server that you can relay mail thorough? i
would imagine that the firewall is configured to allow outgoing smtp (port
25) only from your mail server, how would the mail get to the outside world
otherwise? (unless there is a sperate route, dial-up or summat).

>> >
>> > To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on the PC
>> > You whant to reach.
>>


nope!, there is such a thing as netios over tcp/ip, thats how you can do
your micro$oft 'network neigborhood' over pure ip networks. there are
clients for this, you can create disks with the client on from windows
nt/2000. then you just stick it on your palmtop and configure. then you
should be able to map drives etc.

good luck
markj

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3com specs and URL as follow:
http://www.mhz.com/support/all.cfm?model=XJEM3288

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:56:18 -0500 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> Anyone knows if this modem/Ethernet NIC can be used on the
> palmtop? Any idea about NIP driver for it that works on the
> Palmtop? I cannot find the datasheets for this device... TIA

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Add:

e. Easy programmability
f. Standard type II PC Card slot

Regards,
Stefan

> Date:    Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:31:31 -0500
> From:    Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
> Subject: Re: I still can't believe why HP cancelled the HP200LX
>
 .......
>
> However, the HP 200LX wins
>
> a. Size
> b. Durability
> c. Keyboard
> d. Replaceable anywhere, long lasting batteries.
>
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Thomas Pottjegort wrote:

> There is even a DOS version of this PDF to HTML tool!!!
> http://www.ra.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~gosho/pdftohtml/Download/binary/p
> df2html.exe

C:\pdf2html
This program cannot be run in DOS mode. :-(

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From a Libretto 50CT owner:

> 4. Keyboard input - I looked at the PocketPCs, but was unimpressed with
the
> ability to input information into the unit. This was one of the HPLXs
great
> strengths.

The 200LX keyboard is a major reason why I use my Libretto more and more. A
few minutes of chicklet typing gives me an ache in the fingers. I like the
Libretto keyboard a lot, I only miss a right CTRL key sometimes. For me the
LX has degraded into a PIM, and so a Palm would be nice. I can type quite
well on the Libby, as it affectionatly is known. But the first time I
thought this is a toy and it won't last, impossible to type on that! :-)

> 6. (Optional) Office suite application capability.

Another major reason to go with the Libretto for me. I suppose it depends on
your environment. But I find it interesting that Avi mentioned running 5 (?)
businesses on his LX once.

> used unit I bought came with two of the extended life Lithium Ion
batteries,

A must! It makes a very big difference in useability.

> My system configuration is as follows: 64MB memory (max allowed for
100CT),
> 2 GB Hard drive, Windows 2000, Office 2000, Quicken 2000, and a couple of
> other cats and dogs. I performed the double speed upgrade of my unit (more
> on that below) which is now a 266MHz Pentium MMX Processor. I plan on
> putting a bigger hard drive in it soon, but still have over 500Mb of free
> disk space.

The 50CT has a Pentium 75 MHz, I have upped it to 100 MHz with a possibility
of 133 MHz by holding the on/off button in for 2 secs at bootup time. I run
W95B, W98 was a pain with slow mouse buttons and the hibernate feature. I
changed the disk to a 4 GB disk. I have a 1 GB partition for Windows 2000.
On a P100 with 32 MB!  The 50CT is limited to 32 MB unfortunately. Just for
playing with users/groups/policies basically is ok.

This weekend/early next week I will be upgrading a friends Libretto 100CT to
a 12 GB drive.

> Windows 2000 is great overall (I use it on my home desktop and have yet to
> crash it) and great on this machine. All  of the power management
functions
> are built in, and with the BIOS update for the 100CT that Toshiba has

Only problem I have with W2K is the screen driver, it doesn't work properly.
But running W2K on a 50CT is really an academic achievement, I only tried
because my W2K teacher said it was not possible! :-)

> Wake up time WITH THE
> DOUBLE SPEED is an acceptable (though many of you will find exception to
> this) 12 seconds. There is a similar unit (Casio Fiva) which actually has

I think this is faster on mine. But that is from suspend, I suppose you mean
hibernation. Suspend = just stops and turns off things but keeps the power
on. Hibernation = writes memory to disk and shuts down.

> The display is simply fantastic.

Jepp! 50CT has a 640x480 screen instead.

My gripe with the 100Ct is the mouse buttons, much harder than the 50CT.

The 50CT has only one PCMCIA slot, 16 bit. The 100CT I think has CardBus, 32
bit.

The 110CT is the last model in that series, a new Libretto series starts off
with 1000 numbers. 20CT and 30CT models are 486 types, but I've never seen
them around. There is a 70CT, I have a friend that has one, but I am not
sure of the difference now. Look here for the major English Libretto site:

http://www.silverace.com/libretto/

I thought I would chip in since the 50CT is a good machine and might be
found a little cheaper. I use mine for all my mail and serious surfing,
holding and getting pics from my Canon A50 digital camera via a CF adapter,
wireless IR internet/SMS with my Nokia 6150 GSM phone, accessing my bank,
usefull software/info repository when fixing computers, file transfer
between networks,  what-not.

My config:

Pentium 100 MHz, 32 MB RAM, 4 GB disk, 640x480 TFT backlit (!) screen, mini
adapter with 1S/1P/VGA 1024x768 out, 56K modem card, 10 Mb NIC card, SCSI
card (for my HP scanner at home), two batteries (I use only one), two
chargers. I usually carry one charger with me in my rucksack, it's about the
size of my phone. I also have in the plastic bubble envelope that I house my
Libretto in the modem and NIC cables and a Laplink adapter plug the size of
a 20 sigs pack.

br

Franklin

(I did mention the 200LX, honestly, I did!)

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I agree, the Libretto is a fantastic machine. I just wish I could get ove=
r
this fatal attraction with machines that are no longer available. For onc=
e
in my life it would be nice to be mainstream! d;-)

Tom Salwasser

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DESERTERS - THE LOT OF YOU!!

lets fly the flag for our 200lx!!

markj

p.s. if i was going to go the libretto'ish route, i would go for the sony
c1xd (400mhz, 128mb, 12gb, 3 mouse buttons (good for us unix geeks)).

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For an interesting acccount of the journey of one former
HP200LX user into the world of all the new gadgets,
check out the following link:

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/ipaq-to-palmiiic.html


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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:41:59 -0400 Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> writes:
> There is some awesome freesoftware and free service provided by
> Proxiweb that allows you to enter a URL in the broswer on a Palm then
have
> that info sent to the Proxiweb servers where the info is fetched then
> reformatted and sent back to the Palm in graphical format. It also
allows for SSL and
> cookies. It really is a great service, I wonder if their services
> could be adapted for use with the Lx?

Services like Proxiweb and Avantgo are copyrighted, and require that they
themselves
reformat the Web information for you before sending it to your device.
Which means
that they themselves would have to come up with a HP200LX solution.
Guess how
like that is to happen .  .  .

I wonder, though, how they make their money.   They are free, and I see
no advertising
on either my Palm or their Web site  .  .  .

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There are some pictures of the insides at:

http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/p_photo.htm

I don't know if the comments on the bottom of that link apply to your own
photos, but you may want to read it just the same.

Domingo

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:03:09 +0200 Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
writes:
> Hi friends,
>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:44:45 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
> > In case you do not know, there is also a 512MB Microdrive
> > released at this time, $399, I believe. This adds to the 340MB
> > and 170MB. This is an amazing miniaturization: inside is an
> > actual rotating disk drive. When you hold it, it is hard to
> > believe <g>... I understand there are larger capacities in the
>
> Did you guys ever see the inside of a microdrive? I did :-)
> On the Expo (Hannover) I took a few pictures. If you're
> interested, I can put them on the web so you can see how such a
> microdrive looks inside.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
>
>
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:22:50 -0400 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> Why Sandisk requires a driver on the 440MB is beyond me. I
> have a 512MB by MCT which requires no driver.

So the cat is out of the bag.  :-)    Could you comment on power
and performances differences between the MCT card and, say,
a Sundisk card, if you have one?

> > If may just be that the CF+ spec differs enough from PCMCIA/CF
> > to cause a burp. I'd be interested in hearing IBM's view on
> > it, since I thought they were still supporting PC-DOS in
> > general.
>
> I think the internals are RADICALLY different between a CF and
> the Microdrive - one is static the other is a mechanical
> rotating disk. It is my understanding that IBM has larger
> drives that require a lot less power still. They could
> possibly make the controller look like an ATA then. I don't
> think IBM targets this for DOS market, so I am really not
> certain a DOS driver will appear.

I think Longen was refering to the compact flash specification
differences, rather than the actual cards (remember that at one
point  a certain company was going to produce type II PCMCIA
hard drives, but then they cancelled the project.   I forget the name
of the company).   Compact Flash II (as CF + is also known)
provides for more power to the card than CF I, AFAIK. (similar
to the way PCMCIA III is different from PCMCIA II.   The funny
part is that CF II works just fine with a PCMCIA II CF adapter
(as long it recognizes type II CF cards).

Insofar as the TrgPro Palm recognizes the Microdrive (as well as
any FAT formatted CF card), I am guessing that the controller
already looks like ATA to the drive.  It's just the power issue that
remains the catch, I think.

YMMV

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Hey, wait for the Transmeta chip version of the Sony Vaio C1 due November
2000.  They reckon that it will quadruple the battery life to 6 hours
nonstop! See article on ZDnet.
Cheers
Tony.

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DESERTERS - THE LOT OF YOU!!

lets fly the flag for our 200lx!!

markj

p.s. if i was going to go the libretto'ish route, i would go for the sony
c1xd (400mhz, 128mb, 12gb, 3 mouse buttons (good for us unix geeks)).

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> http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/ipaq-to-palmiiic.html
In this article he states:
" Then I went to the HP200lx which was another great PDA... but it too was
too large to carry around.

Too large to carry around?  On What Planet?

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that's what stopped me from buying one, i know this is coming out so i am
waiting...

markj

>

>Hey, wait for the Transmeta chip version of the Sony Vaio C1 due November
>2000.  They reckon that it will quadruple the battery life to 6 hours
>

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I'll venture that the new chip model will ship late, and when it does it'll be
so buggy that you'll end up getting only 1.5 hours of work out of a 6 hour
battery anyway.

- Longden





Mark Johnson <mark_johnson@ORDINA.CO.UK> on 09/08/2000 08:33:59 AM

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that's what stopped me from buying one, i know this is coming out so i am
waiting...

>Hey, wait for the Transmeta chip version of the Sony Vaio C1 due November
>2000.  They reckon that it will quadruple the battery life to 6 hours

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:15:53 -0400 "Ken London" <kenlondon@beld.net>
writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D Dv" <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
> > http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/ipaq-to-palmiiic.html
> In this article he states:
> " Then I went to the HP200lx which was another great PDA... but it
> too was too large to carry around.
>
> Too large to carry around?  On What Planet?

The gadgeteer is a she.   That might explain that coment.   And from her
other writings and pictures, I gather she is not that big (check the
whole site, it's one of the best places to get information on all kinds
of
handheld devices from a single site).

Domingo

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> I accidentally discovered that I can start Outlook Express while =
compuserve
> is active and online. Outlook comes up normally but doesn't dial and =
gives
> me my mail and web access.

Compuserve has two ways to access their system.  One is called HMI and is =
their
older, proprietary format.  Since version 3.0 of Compuserve's CIM software=
,
they also have a standard WWW protocol option.  This web access is now =
the
default.  So, both your Compuserve software and Outlook can use the =
standard
WWW access to check mail etc.  If you reset your Compuserve software to =
use
HMI, then it wouldn't work with Outlook like it does now.

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TECH:
Does anyone have experience of adding serial ports to the HP200?
I have tried the EXP Computer's PCA-SER2 PCMCIA card which provides twin
serial ports under DOS 6.0 - but I now find out from the company that it
will not work.
Has anyone tried one of the Socket Communications PCMCIA serial cards
(either single or dual) on the HP?


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>>I don't think I ever saw anything resembling an ad for the 200lx.

they did have some ads actually I even remember ads for the 95lx, hp had ads
in the delta airline magazine for maybe 8 or 12 months in a row that was how
I found out the hp95 existed

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You will probably have to look for a VGA video card to use the modern
monitor or else get another old EGA monitor.  EGA doesn't just use a
different type of connector, it uses different voltage levels entirely.  The
VGA standard provided for analog signals to represent a practically
unlimited range of colors, while the older CGA and EGA video cards used TTL
(transistor-transistor logic) levels and were limited to a fixed number of
colors (16 or 64).

BTW, the VGA standard uses 15 pins in the connector.

Pretty much all of the VGA cards can do everything to emulate the modes of
CGA and EGA cards.  You can probably get a VGA card for next to nothing
(check the next garage sale you pass).

Alan

From: Richard E. McEvoy Ýmailto:remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE¨
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:24 PM

I want to see how what old useful DOS software there is in my old IBM
XT, but the EGA  monitor display has shrunk to a garbled two inch wide
band at the top of the screen. On Sunday last I got a HP VGA monitor at
a charity fete and an older monitor, which had been attached to a
Commodore Amiga, which may be a CGA; it has a  nine pin D shaped female
socket which looks compatible with the XT. I tried a few places today
for a nine pin cable, but only saw VGA (12 pins). A bit more searching
will probably turn up an old cable, but is it possible to adapt the XT
(which runs DOS 3.0) for the VGA monitor. Any suggestions please?

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> Does anyone have experience of adding serial ports to the HP200?
> I have tried the EXP Computer's PCA-SER2 PCMCIA card which provides twin
> serial ports under DOS 6.0 - but I now find out from the company that it
> will not work.
> Has anyone tried one of the Socket Communications PCMCIA serial cards
> (either single or dual) on the HP?
>
Chris:

I have successfully added a second port to my palmtop, using a B&B
Electronics PCMCIA serial port card.  While I mostly use it on my
laptop, I did test it in the palmtop to see if it could be done.
Here is the data from my two posts on this subject in May of this
year:


> Well, I was successful in getting a PCMCIA serial card to work in my
> palmtop.  I don't know if the 25mA exceeds the recommended draw, but it
> worked during a brief experiment.  If in fact 25mA is too large a
> current for the 200LX, then I noted that Socket sells a similar card
> that only draws 13mA operational.
>
> It shows up as COM2, just as if you had plugged in a modem card.  So,
> if you need two com ports on your palmtop, this is a potential
> solution.  (My main need for this item is my laptop computer, but it's
> handy to have for the palmtop, too).
>
>
> http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=47&sku=232PCC

Good luck...

-Chris Lott



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Hello all,

I just re-visited a site in Japan, where the author
describes his home-made ELM, a very prototype MP3 walkman.
Well, apparently this is not so prototype but very popular,
because it's available in kit bag now.

I wonder if a techie LXer could grab one and see how to
tailor it for use in the 200LX, preferably via PCMCIA slot.
Audio is just badly needed to keep alive these days.

BTW, the link is:
<http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/reports/mpc/report_e.html>

Sincerely, Tamas Feher.

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Surfer Surfer wrote:
> 3com specs and URL as follow:
> http://www.mhz.com/support/all.cfm?model=XJEM3288

Excellent source for 3288 stuff. I haven't had a chance to
look at everything, but I assume I will find power
requirements in there too! Very cmprehensive set of things!

Thank you very much!

  Avi

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ddvteach@JUNO.COM wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:22:50 -0400 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> > Why Sandisk requires a driver on the 440MB is beyond me. I
> > have a 512MB by MCT which requires no driver.
>
> So the cat is out of the bag.  :-)

Which cat is that? I don't understand.

> Could you comment on power
> and performances differences between the MCT card and, say,
> a Sundisk card, if you have one?

I have both.

440MB vs. 512MB, requires driver vs. no driver, almost same
price. I cannot comment on power and speed scientifically, I
don't have the numbers here avaiable. I believe 512 is oemed
from another manufacturer.

Anecdotally - from what my perception is, but unmeasured - the
512 is faster, a lot faster.

440 is recognized by Win 95 and Win 98 as sandisk something.
The 512 is plain ATA card.

Both are Type II pcmcia.

That's about all I can think of to compare

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On Super You can find "View" a program that can read and save various
formats like Word97 and html.
Go to that view homepage if You would like the latest version.

>  >
>  >Great, now only one to convert from HTML to plain TXT
>  >

      /tomas moberg
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I guess You mean NetBios. Are You sure You can run that on a hp200lx?
I doubt it can be run on a 186 machine. But please tell us more if You
know how to do it. That would be realy usefull

> >> > To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on the =
PC
> >> > You whant to reach.
> >>
>
> nope!, there is such a thing as netios over tcp/ip, thats how you can =
do
> your micro$oft 'network neigborhood' over pure ip networks. there are
> clients for this, you can create disks with the client on from windows
> nt/2000. then you just stick it on your palmtop and configure. then you
> should be able to map drives etc.
>
> good luck
> markj
>

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Tomas,

IPX and NETBEUI is available since a year or so. NETBEUI also allows to
setup the hp200lx as LAN-Server. Please check the following address:

http://www.hplx.net

Kind regards

Helmuth

> I guess You mean NetBios. Are You sure You can run that on a hp200lx?
> I doubt it can be run on a 186 machine. But please tell us more if You
> know how to do it. That would be realy usefull
>
> > >> > To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on the PC
> > >> > You whant to reach.
> > >>
> >
> > nope!, there is such a thing as netios over tcp/ip, thats how you can do
> > your micro$oft 'network neigborhood' over pure ip networks. there are
> > clients for this, you can create disks with the client on from windows
> > nt/2000. then you just stick it on your palmtop and configure. then you
> > should be able to map drives etc.
> >
> > good luck
> > markj
> >
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
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> On Super You can find "View" a program that can read and save various
> formats like Word97 and html.
> Go to that view homepage if You would like the latest version.

There are also at least two excellent HTML to text convertor programs
that I use on my palmtop occassionally.  I think they are on SUPER.
If you can't find them, ask me to dig up the program names and sources.

-Chris

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I have read & saved RFC1939.  I have questions:

At the start of this thread, access was described as telnetting to
the pop3 server.  Would this be correct?

TELNET mail.xyz.net

Also, having a piece of mail stuck on my server for about 2 months
now, would I be correct in assuming that it's msg #1?

If for instance, I have 3 msgs and retrieve them while telnetting from
dos, will they d/l into the current dir as separate txt files, or output
to console?

TIA, Tommy

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Sat,  9 Sep 2000 10:21:27 -0400 (EDT)

01h31m49s ago ...
On Sat,  9 Sep 2000, Chris Lott wrote:

> > On Super You can find "View" a program that can read and save various
> > formats like Word97 and html...<snip>
>
> There are also at least two excellent HTML to text convertor
programs...<snip>

VIEW is an excellent progrem for viewing or converting various word
processor formats (and HTML) to text.  I use it to read Word docs if I
get 'em in my email.

For HTML to text, the best program I've found is Bruce Guthrie's
HTMSTRIP.  It not only converts to text, but can be configured to
embed printer control codes (or VDE codes etc) to print various header
sizes in something resembling the original.  Also converts tables
nicely (with choice of borders) to fit the screen/printer format, and
other cool stuff I can't think of offhand.  Maybe on SUPER.  If not,
I'll post the URL when I find it.


Regards,

Peniel
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(8) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

(2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
with a strong Velcro seal.

(1) for $4.00
(3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Well, I have connected to my corporate ethernet, and was able to surf
the internet with www/lx and use ping and ftp.  I had to replace the
http_proxy with the ip address rather than using the name.

I am curious though how I can access my windows 2000 machine as alluded
to below.

I am not aware on w2k where to create disks with the client.
Any assistance is appreciated.

I also appreciate the assistance from
the group to get this far.  People in my office are shocked at what I
can do with this machine.  And they come close with the palm or aero.
The only one that seems to come close is the psion, but it cant do ssl
either.





> > > nope!, there is such a thing as netios over tcp/ip, thats how you =
can do
> > > your micro$oft 'network neigborhood' over pure ip networks. there =
are
> > > clients for this, you can create disks with the client on from =
windows
> > > nt/2000. then you just stick it on your palmtop and configure. then =
you
> > > should be able to map drives etc.
>

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A new VGA monitor is backwards compatible with a EGA card.  They use the
same analog technology.  CGA and MDA use TTL signals.  Some EGA monitors
(older NEC multisync monitors mainly) are also forward compatible with VGA
resolutions and colours.  A simple adapter will work.

        T.H.x.
                Devon

>Date:    Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:11:50 -0400
>From:    "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
>Subject: Re: Off topic - Monitors
>
>You will probably have to look for a VGA video card to use the modern
>monitor or else get another old EGA monitor.  EGA doesn't just use a
>different type of connector, it uses different voltage levels >entirely.  The
>VGA standard provided for analog signals to represent a practically
>unlimited range of colors, while the older CGA and EGA video cards >used TTL
>{transistor-transistor logic) levels and were limited to a fixed >number of
>colors (16 or 64).
>
>BTW, the VGA standard uses 15 pins in the connector.
>
>Pretty much all of the VGA cards can do everything to emulate the >modes of
>CGA and EGA cards.  You can probably get a VGA card for next to >nothing
>(check the next garage sale you pass).
>
>Alan
>
>From: Richard E. McEvoy Ýmailto:remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE¨
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:24 PM
>
>I want to see how what old useful DOS software there is in my old IBM
>XT, but the EGA  monitor display has shrunk to a garbled two inch wide
>band at the top of the screen. On Sunday last I got a HP VGA monitor >at
>a charity fete and an older monitor, which had been attached to a
>Commodore Amiga, which may be a CGA; it has a  nine pin D shaped >female
>socket which looks compatible with the XT. I tried a few places today
>for a nine pin cable, but only saw VGA (12 pins). A bit more searching
>will probably turn up an old cable, but is it possible to adapt the XT
>(which runs DOS 3.0) for the VGA monitor. Any suggestions please?

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Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:50:27 EDT
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Scott,
Not to pick nits, but the pouch you sent me appears to be naugahyde, not
leather. Did I get the wrong one? =8-)

Dennis

smoore@EFFECTNET.COM writes:
> I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
>  with a strong Velcro seal.

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Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:27:37 -0400
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Hi;
Anyone have the docs for clkup32.sys in english?

Ron Stalma
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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:09:44 +0100
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Up to today I am running SC with a simple 5 meg disk swap file and
without EMS enabled through TREMM.

I have installed PGP 2.6.3i recently. PGP is memory hungry and in order
to be able to call it from within POST/LX - LXPGP I want to setup EMS
with TREMM.

I've tried it myself a couple of times resulting in disk crashes. Here
is what I do :

1) go to a dos session and install EMS with the command INSTEMM (8 meg)

2) add the TREMM.EXE device driver to config.sys in the small boot
drive.

3) reboot the machine. The TREMM driver is loaded and the tremm.swp
file is there.

4) goto the SC setup and change swap file settings to using expanded
memory (7.9 meg)

5) reboot the machine to initialize the new SC settings.

6) call e.g. my POST/LX SC session which is loaded with the following
batch file :
  cd c:\w3
  maxdos -l -e
  www -d "!POST"
  maxdos -r
I can type away fine now in this session.

7) If I call a different SC session I end up at a dos prompt with the
error message "bad command or file not found"
Doing a simple DIR shows that the whole big C drive does not exist any
more.

8) A reboot results in a complete crash - even the small boot drive was
wiped out. I have too reinstall the machine

Fortunately I have a backup and I'm pretty fast in reinstalling 96 meg
already :)

Anyway - what is wrong ?

TIA

HP Staber/Salzburg

HP Staber/Salzburg

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On 2 Sep 2000 10:01:23 -0700, Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET> wrote:

> Will a solar battery charger work on cloudy days?  Here in Massachussetts we
> tend to get many days in a row where it is cloudy.

Only on sunny days <G>

Vic

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On later versions of XCOPY there are /d and /a switches. The /d
copies only files that have a later date and time that files of
the same name on the target disk, and the /a copies only files
that do not exist on the target disk. Use of these two
switches, each in their own line of a BAT file, greatly speeds
up the backup process.

The version of XCOPY that ships with DOS 5 and the LX does not
have these switches. So, on my LXs I use a version of REPLACE
that I copied from Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 that does have these two
switches. REPLACE does not have the /s switch, so the BAT file
is written to call each directory on c: that has data I want
to save. The whole process of backing up new info from C: to
A: then takes less than 1 minute.

Vic Roberts

On 30 Aug 2000 20:59:00 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> The "gotcha" on the '/m' switch is that if files get deleted from the backup
> (for whatever reason), xcopy won't know to copy the original anymore ..... not a
> frequent or usual situation, but it does happen.  Balance that caution against
> getting a much faster backup when using '/m'.
>

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Comments: cc: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM

   >7) If I call a different SC session I end up at a dos prompt with
   >the error message "bad command or file not found"
   >Doing a simple DIR shows that the whole big C drive does not exist
   >any more.
   >8) A reboot results in a complete crash - even the small boot drive
   >was wiped out. I have too reinstall the machine
   >Fortunately I have a backup and I'm pretty fast in reinstalling 96
   >meg already :)
   >Anyway - what is wrong ?
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:43:46 +0000

I don't have a big internal drive myself (only 6mb) so the mechanics may
differ, but in running INSTEMM to setup EMS, I believe the disk is required
to be unfragmented first.

Is it possible that your EMS swap file is non-contiguous?  This can be
checked using "chkdsk".

- Longden

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:43:53 +0000

Good info, thanks.  Personally I just use pkzip to roll the whole shebang
into one complete archive during a nightly run.  Less space and more
manageable for me.

- Longden

   >The version of XCOPY that ships with DOS 5 and the LX does not
   >have these switches. So, on my LXs I use a version of REPLACE
   >that I copied from Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 that does have these two
   >switches. REPLACE does not have the /s switch, so the BAT file
   >is written to call each directory on c: that has data I want
   >to save. The whole process of backing up new info from C: to
   >A: then takes less than 1 minute.

   >> The "gotcha" on the '/m' switch is that if files get deleted from
   >>the backup  (for whatever reason), xcopy won't know to copy the
   >>original anymore ..... not a  frequent or usual situation, but it
   >>does happen.  Balance that caution against  getting a much faster
   >backup when using '/m'. >

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:25:17 -0400
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Chris Lott wrote:

> I'm getting out of my league here, but isn't the US PCS digital cell
> phone based on the GSM standard?  Just on a different frequency band
> than our European counterparts?

No.  PCS here in the USA using the same 1900 MHz frequency as
GSM, but the protocol is regular old CDMA that is used by many
digital phones on the 800 MHz band.

My Motorola StarTAC is a tri-mode phone: Analog and CDMA at
800 MHz (like most uial mode digital phones) and CMDA at 1900 MHz
(AKA PCS).  No GSM capabilities at all.


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CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> Can anyone
> tell me somewhere I might find information on the 200LX's compatibility
> with phones widely available in the US?

Actually, there is nothing really special about the 200LX in terms of
being compatable with any cel phone.  The 200LX is just a DOS computer
with a PCMCIA port and a serial port.  Of course, that it can only
supply 150 ma to the PCMCIA port limits which modems can be used. I
have used two different set ups with my 200LX and cel phones.

Originally, I had a Motorola MicroTAC phone that was both TDMA
digital and regular analog.  I hooked it up to an Apex PCMCIA
modem with a special cable made for the specific phone/modem
combination.  I could go online in analog-only mode at about
4800-9600 bps.  This worked OK, but the disadvantage
was that the modem would draw down the palmtop's batteries
rather quickly.  Also, the phone was rather large and I had to
carry a spare pair of AA batteries, the PCMCIA modem and the
cable.

I also used the same phone with a Motorola Cellect external battery
powered modem plugged into the palmtop's serial port. This is a modem
designed to work with the MicroTAC and compatable cel phones working in
analog mode.  This combination was good because the palmtop's batteries
were not drained.  But that was a lot of equipment to carry around.
But both of these setups used the cel phone in analog mode.  Analog
mode was not that great and was prone to bad signals and very slow data
rates.

Now, I have one of the new Motorola StarTAC phones with the
microbrowser and so-called built-in modem.  I connect the phone
directly to the serial port of the palmtop with a cable.  The phone
uses it digitial mode to send the data right through at 14400 bps.  As
far as the palmtop knows, it is just working with a regular modem. This
is a fantastic combination because the phone is tiny, there is only one
cable, no batteries are drained too much, there is no need to use the
analog mode, and the data rate is faster.  I highly recommend this
setup.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:08:42 -0400
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Hi

I read on the net somewhere That Bluetooth pcmcia is on its way now. I
am not sure how powerhungry they are, but if they can be used do anyone
know if this is the way to go?

Irda is okey, but the phones of the future will (also) have Bluetooth.
The first one to be launched is the Ericsson T36m which will be here at
christmas and then Ericsson 520 in march.

Regards

--
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Yes I know. I use IPX and NetBEUI on the hp200lx my self.
But I doubt that NetBIOS over tcp/ip will run on a hp200lx.

Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> Tomas,
>
> IPX and NETBEUI is available since a year or so. NETBEUI also allows to
> setup the hp200lx as LAN-Server. Please check the following address:
>
> http://www.hplx.net
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
>
> > I guess You mean NetBios. Are You sure You can run that on a hp200lx?
> > I doubt it can be run on a 186 machine. But please tell us more if =
You
> > know how to do it. That would be realy usefull
> >
> > > >> > To acces network drives You have to install ipx and netbeui on =
the PC
> > > >> > You whant to reach.
> > > >>
> > >
> > > nope!, there is such a thing as netios over tcp/ip, thats how you =
can do
> > > your micro$oft 'network neigborhood' over pure ip networks. there =
are
> > > clients for this, you can create disks with the client on from =
windows
> > > nt/2000. then you just stick it on your palmtop and configure. then =
you
> > > should be able to map drives etc.
> > >
> > > good luck
> > > markj
> > >

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Stan,


>
> Now, I have one of the new Motorola StarTAC phones with the
> microbrowser and so-called built-in modem.  I connect the phone
> directly to the serial port of the palmtop with a cable.  The phone
> uses it digitial mode to send the data right through at 14400 bps.  As
> far as the palmtop knows, it is just working with a regular
> modem. This
> is a fantastic combination because the phone is tiny, there
> is only one
> cable, no batteries are drained too much, there is no need to use the
> analog mode, and the data rate is faster.  I highly recommend this
> setup.
>

Do you think this might also wok with the Motorola i1000+ IDen (Nextel)
phone?  It too has the built in wireless modem. Nextel tells me it will only
work with their own online service but I don't see why that is.
Jim

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I decided to use Manugistics APL*PLUS (Version 11.0) both to test the capabilities of
PocketDOS on the iPAQ and to attempt to get some speed comparison between DOS on the
iPAQ and DOS on the HP200Lx.

Results:

APL loads and runs on the iPAQ, via PocketDOS. There are some (important) `keyboard'
issues that I'll touch on below, but I found I was able to load APL and load Workspaces
that had been written on PCs and moved to the IPAQ without any difficulty.

My test program was extremely simple:
     Calculate the sum of the vector you get by raising the first n integers to the
     1.00001 power. This is very simple, but as the `power' requires calculation of
     both exponentials and logs it exercises the floating point capability to some
     extent.

The machines:
    HP200Lx Single Speed
    iPAQ 3630 running PocketDOS

I tested at two levels: 20,000 items and 30,000 items.

    iPAQ:  20,000 takes 120.010 sec  30,000 takes 213.990 sec
   HP200:  20,000 takes 366.570 sec  30,000 gets `WS FULL' error

This indicates that the `simulated' DOS on the iPAQ runs about 3 times as fast as the
`real' DOS on the HP200. And, I guess it also indicates---indirectly---that the virtual
`machine' provided by PocketDOS is somewhat bigger than than provided by the 200.

Cost:
    The iPAQ with 32mb costs $500. PocketDOS adds $40
    The HP200Lx with 32mb costs $600

Keyboard:
    Keyboard has always been a `nightmare issue' for APL. It is even more so when you
    complicate it by not having a `real' keyboard. The wisdom (IMO) of Iverson's
    departure from the APL symbol set (J uses conventional symbols) becomes evident
    when you try to adapt APL to some `new' computational world.

    I have no doubt that it would be possible to create an `APL Keyboard' for the iPAQ,
    but I also have little doubt that it will not be worthwhile to bother to do so. Its
    principal use, for me, will be to run workspaces that are created elsewhere.

Conclusion:
    The iPAQ is the first palm-format device that seems to be able to run DOS faster
    than even a double speed HP200 (I assume a double speed 200 runs about twice as
    fast as a regular 200. I don't have one, and have never tested this). I find that
    since getting the iPAQ I no longer bother with the 200. The first time I have `had
    the 200 out' in the past weeks was to make this comparison study.

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>>This indicates that the `simulated' DOS on the iPAQ runs about 3
>>times as fast as the
>>`real' DOS on the HP200. And, I guess it also
>>indicates---indirectly---that the virtual
>>`machine' provided by PocketDOS is somewhat bigger than than
>>provided by the 200.

interesting conclusion you think just that one test is enough? sounds to me
like the ipaq is much faster doing floating point stuff. how about running
some real apps

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Hello all;
I need a battery compartment cover for my 200LX. Does anybody have one
that they would be willing to sell to me?

Or, I will trade any of the following for it:
-- Norton Utilities 10-user Network Edition for DOS & Windows on 3.5:
diskettes
-- Procomm Plus32 ver. 4.5 for Windows on CD
-- The Pocket Idiot's Guide to the Portable Office (ISBN: 0-02-862927-2)

-- Sound Blaster ISA Card (have 2 of these)

Also, if anyone wants to buy any of the above from me, just suggest a
price. I really just want to get rid of them. Buyer pays shipping.

Thanks.

Richard Smith
aka Seronac

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Hi friends,

I've set up a new page for you with two pictures:

1. a picture of the internals of an IBM microdrive
2. a picture of the little palmtop meeting in Vancouver with Don Chow,
Mark Willis, Rod Clapper and me.

Please go to www.daniel-hertrich.de and follow the link
"Some stuff about the palmtop"!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:49:06 -0700
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Hi all,

This is the news that Al referred to in his last teaser message :)

I've put together an archive of the HPLX-L list and added search
capabilities. Initially for my own use, I thought it would be of value to
others also, so I am making it available on the web.

The archive currently goes back to August 1997. I am working on adding the
previous list messages.

You can search by year, or all years combined. If you do a combined year
search, please allow up to a minute or so for the search to complete,
don't just try again. It's a large index and may take a while.

You can use booleans and wildcards. More complex searches take longer
though. There are some brief instructions on the search page.

The search results are threaded, but the threads don't go past month
boundaries.

The archive does not contain the most recent messages. At this time, it is
only updated after Al posts the previous months log. There is no way the
system could handle realtime updates, but I may try to add weekly, or
daily updates.

The search results do not have document excerpting, only the message
Subject line is shown. Excerpting would take a much bigger system. This is
a good reason to use good Subject lines in your posts. AND, if you get the
list in digest mode, change the subject line to the post you're replying
to please.

So, where's the URL already...?

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/

takes you to the search page. Let me know of any problems you have, or
suggestions.

Cheers,
Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:08:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Floyd Smithberg <flydnq7x@primenet.com>
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Failing eyesight tells me it's time to sell:
 1) Late model HP200LX S/N SG64500706
 2) HP F1011A AC/DC Adapter
 3) Connectivity Pack-3 3.5 disks,serial cable,5
      adapters, users guide.
 4) Extra seral cable.
 5) 8MB Simple Tech Flash card.
 6) AT&T 14.4 Data/Fax Modem
 7) Kensington Belt loop case.
 8) Manuals-Users Guide, Quick Start Guide, Modem
     Manuals, Goin' Postal manual......
 All above in like new condx....$250 plus $10 shipping and
insurance.....MO/Cashiers Check....US only.
Floyd NQ7X Phoenix,AZ ScQRPion DM33uq

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:28:13 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Mike,

> I've put together an archive of the HPLX-L list and added search
> capabilities. Initially for my own use, I thought it would be of value to
> others also, so I am making it available on the web.

Thank you, it is of great value to me, I just tries a few things.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:50:33 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Mike,

The search is excellent. I can see this making the HPLX very
very useful as a repository of information.

I tried briefly with HV and it seems that there was no problem
with blank pages alike! I am glad that this somehow is not
plaguing your excellent search tool.

I had two strange results: I searched for "www/lx" in year
2000 and found zero matches. I tried "www/*" and "www*" and
found zero matches as well. I found matches on "meshar" and
"kopplin" so it is not lower case.

In one case I searched for unlimited number of matches and the
results came back FAST, even on a highly recurring term!!!!
Nice job.

Suggestion: When you display the results, perhaps repeat the
search criteria, so it is clear that you searched for "xyz and
pqr" in year "all years".

Nice job - THANK YOU!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com


Mike Kopplin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is the news that Al referred to in his last teaser message :)
>
> I've put together an archive of the HPLX-L list and added search
> capabilities. Initially for my own use, I thought it would be of value to
> others also, so I am making it available on the web.
>
> The archive currently goes back to August 1997. I am working on adding the
> previous list messages.
>
> You can search by year, or all years combined. If you do a combined year
> search, please allow up to a minute or so for the search to complete,
> don't just try again. It's a large index and may take a while.
>
> You can use booleans and wildcards. More complex searches take longer
> though. There are some brief instructions on the search page.
>
> The search results are threaded, but the threads don't go past month
> boundaries.
>
> The archive does not contain the most recent messages. At this time, it is
> only updated after Al posts the previous months log. There is no way the
> system could handle realtime updates, but I may try to add weekly, or
> daily updates.
>
> The search results do not have document excerpting, only the message
> Subject line is shown. Excerpting would take a much bigger system. This is
> a good reason to use good Subject lines in your posts. AND, if you get the
> list in digest mode, change the subject line to the post you're replying
> to please.
>
> So, where's the URL already...?
>
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/
>
> takes you to the search page. Let me know of any problems you have, or
> suggestions.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Kopplin
>
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>

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:04:29 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Anyone have the last obsolete version of Nettamer for palmtops?

Hi All,

I've discovered a problem that I suspect to be a newly introduced bug in
latest version of Nettamer for palmtops.  Since that problem is
preventing me from evaluating Nettamer's worthiness of registration, I
haven't yet registered Nettamer and therefore don't have the author's
undivided attention... especially since he has just recently gotten out
the hospital after a lengthy stay for an operation.

Al Kind was kind enough to give me an old version of Nettamer for
palmtops a while back to compare, but the version he gave me was too old
to function properly any more.

It seems that some of Al Kind's email is disappearing again since I
haven't gotten a response from my him lately, so I'm still looking for
the last obsolete release of Nettamer for palmtops.

The newest release of Nettamer for palmtops that I've discovered the
problem in is
n1112pt.zip.  If you have the release before that, please attach that zip
file to an email to jvander800@aol.com. ( That email account can handle
file attachments much easier.)
By comparing the two versions, I should be able to determine if the
problem is indeed a newly introduced bug that would require priority
attention by the author of Net tamer.

Thanks in advance,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:39:22 -0400
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              Hugo Normand <hugo@HEXAWAY.COM>
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Hi everyone,
            I noticed 3 weeks ago that some of you on this list may have old
HP Calculator stuff laying around. Since I'm collecting HP calculator and HP
accessories related to calculator, I may be interested in buying at
reasonnable price those HP stuff. So if you have anything related to HP
calc, and don't what to do with it, send me an e-mail at: hugo@hexaway.com

Thanks

Hugo

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:43:40 -0400
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              victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM
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My comments about the latest version of XCOPY are not quite
correct. XCOPY needs only the /d and /s switches to do a
backup. It automatically copies any files from the source that
do not already exist on the target. The /a switch is related to
the archive bit and I do not use it for my backups. I just use
/d to make sure I have the latest version of any file.

Vic

On 10 Sep 2000 05:52:41 -0700, Victor Roberts <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> On later versions of XCOPY there are /d and /a switches. The /d
> copies only files that have a later date and time that files of
> the same name on the target disk, and the /a copies only files
> that do not exist on the target disk. Use of these two
> switches, each in their own line of a BAT file, greatly speeds
> up the backup process.
>
> The version of XCOPY that ships with DOS 5 and the LX does not
> have these switches. So, on my LXs I use a version of REPLACE
> that I copied from Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 that does have these two
> switches. REPLACE does not have the /s switch, so the BAT file
> is written to call each directory on c: that has data I want
> to save. The whole process of backing up new info from C: to
> A: then takes less than 1 minute.
>
> Vic Roberts
>
> On 30 Aug 2000 20:59:00 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:
>
> > The "gotcha" on the '/m' switch is that if files get deleted from the backup
> > (for whatever reason), xcopy won't know to copy the original anymore ..... not a
> > frequent or usual situation, but it does happen.  Balance that caution against
> > getting a much faster backup when using '/m'.
> >
>
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> The search is excellent. I can see this making the HPLX very
> very useful as a repository of information.

I was afraid for a minute it was all lost. A while ago my power went off
for maybe half an hour while I was gone. More than my upses could handle,
so of course everything crashed. Everything came back up, then a few
minutes ago, the power went off again for a few seconds. The ups hadn't
had a chance to recover so of course CRASH!! again. Fortuneately, it all
seems ok.

> I tried briefly with HV and it seems that there was no problem
> with blank pages alike! I am glad that this somehow is not
> plaguing your excellent search tool.

When I've tried it, I would get most of a screen of blank lines at the top
of each message that I tried to view, but a page-down would
bring it into view.  Otherwise, it worked fine.

> I had two strange results: I searched for "www/lx" in year
> 2000 and found zero matches. I tried "www/*" and "www*" and
> found zero matches as well. I found matches on "meshar" and
> "kopplin" so it is not lower case.

Two things are going on here. The first is that because of the '/' the
indexer treats www/lx as two words, www and lx. The second is that very
common words are removed from the index. WWW is too common. I could force
it to index all words, but then the indices increase significantly, and
the search speed suffers. But you should have gotten results on www*. I
just tried it and got 2596 hits for 2000. For www/lx I'm afraid you'll
have to search for 'lx', which will also include messages with e.g.
post/lx and just LX.

> In one case I searched for unlimited number of matches and the
> results came back FAST, even on a highly recurring term!!!!
> Nice job.

My test case is to search for the word palmtop over all years. I get
10,953 matches, and the result page that it pumps out is about 1.6MB. This
takes about 45 seconds to search and display connected locally. Over a
modem just receiving the results would take longer than the search. That's
the reason for the Maximum items option. If you pick say 100, only what
the search engine thinks are the top 100 matches are returned. One of
these days I might try and set up paginated results.

> Suggestion: When you display the results, perhaps repeat the
> search criteria, so it is clear that you searched for "xyz and
> pqr" in year "all years".

Good suggestion. The search terms are displayed near the top of the page,
but I should add the year. I should also add the year at the bottom of
the page where it has the search again. It might also be good to say
rather than 'returned 25 Items' something like 'returned 25 of 10,956
Items'.

> Nice job - THANK YOU!

Thank you, and thank you for the comments and suggestions.

Best regards,
Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:31:46 -0400
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Subject:      Re: WTB: 200LX Part & Misc. FS
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Hi;
There is one up for auction at ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=430118053

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From: "Richard and Patti Smith" <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 1:00 PM
Subject: WTB: 200LX Part & Misc. FS


> Hello all;
> I need a battery compartment cover for my 200LX. Does anybody have one
> that they would be willing to sell to me?
>
> Or, I will trade any of the following for it:
> -- Norton Utilities 10-user Network Edition for DOS & Windows on 3.5:
> diskettes
> -- Procomm Plus32 ver. 4.5 for Windows on CD
> -- The Pocket Idiot's Guide to the Portable Office (ISBN: 0-02-862927-2)
>
> -- Sound Blaster ISA Card (have 2 of these)
>
> Also, if anyone wants to buy any of the above from me, just suggest a
> price. I really just want to get rid of them. Buyer pays shipping.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard Smith
> aka Seronac
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:50:56 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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lloo@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
> I don't have a big internal drive myself (only 6mb) so the mechanics may
> differ, but in running INSTEMM to setup EMS, I believe the disk is required
> to be unfragmented first.
>
> Is it possible that your EMS swap file is non-contiguous?  This can be
> checked using "chkdsk".

Perfectly contiguous :-¨ I run INSTEMM after both disks were wiped out.
The c:\ drive is VIRGIN. I never ran CHKDSK though - thought it was not
necessary.

I ran CHKEMM which reported something which I can't remeber.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:30:22 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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(Some messages were somehow thrown into the "Send Later" folder here;
Grrr.  I'm sending all these from last week now.)

I'd suggest you use some kind of regulated supply - Switchers are far
lighter, although often far more expensive (use one for a "carry"
supply.)  Linear regulators are heavier and far less power efficient;
they're cheaper, though ($10 or so if you wire your own, less if you
shop Garage Sales!)

My first LX power lump used a Linear, mostly am using a Switcher now
that I have one here.  If you have a 15 volt or higher, DC power supply,
already there, you can use that with a cheap "7812" Linear regulator.
Ask me off-list for more details <G>

If you want to really "hack" a cheap power supply, you can do like quite
a few electronics fanatics do - wire in a fuse or circuit breaker for a
PC-powered LX charger and power supply for other projects.  Use this for
my microcontroller projects <G>

To do this, get a connector that'll plug into the 12 volt hard drive
connectors on your PC.  (Cut apart a drive power wiring extender if you
cannot find those!)

Wire a 1 or 2 Amp fuse in series with the "+" wire for 12 volts, on the
far side of that connector (this is the YELLOW wire on most Hard Drive
connectors.  You also need to run the '-' or black wire next to it out
the front panel.)  On the other side of the fuse, put a resistor (1 Ohm
or so, 1 Watt is good) and then an electrolytic cap, say 2200uF, 25V or
so, across + and - (+ being after the fuse and resistor - wire '-' to
the black wire, OK?) - then put a couple binding posts through a 3.5"
floppy drive slot cover plate and wire these to that.  (You can also do
the same with the Red +5V line.)  (Use different colored binding posts
for +12 and +5 volts and/or label the binding posts, huh?  Red for +5,
Yellow for +12, Black for Ground, is good.)

The 5V inside your computer is regulated, the 12V isn't very well
regulated but usually is pretty accurate (it's created in proportion to
the 5V power - Measure it!) - there's a LOT of ripple and noise on
either line, that's why I put the resistor and capacitor in there, to
filter and clean the voltages up.  And: the fuse is MANDATORY unless
you're lots safer than even I am, as WHEN you short the wires outside
your PC's front cover, you can expect the wires in your PC's power
supply to MELT, sparks fly, and your computer to (in general) cop a
nasty attitude towards you after that - NOT a good idea.  If you aren't
an electronics fanatic, maybe have one build this for you <G>  (A PC's
power supply will supply about 23A at 5V and 8A at 12V, for a 230W power
supply;  LOTS of sparks, and then the magic silver smoke comes out and
your whole PC quits working...)

I think I'll make these - since 3.5" drive bay covers adhere well to the
"Standards" problem ("The Nice thing about Standards is, that there are
SO many to choose from!"), I'll have to do a little extra work.
Whatever works <G>

The 200LX uses about 300mA (0.300 A) at IIRC 9.6 to 14.4V (12V +- 20%),
so I am pretty sure that the 12V off a computer's power supply should be
usable, though I haven't tested it for THIS purpose, I've sure used it
for enough other jobs.

Another possibility is to just plug a cable off a fairly well charged
lead-acid battery into the charge socket (This one I'll be trying,
though I'll probably regulate it as I'll be using solar panels to charge
the battery!)  Lead-Acid cells run within the 9.6V - 14.4V range nicely,
though I would NOT try this on a car battery (if you start the car,
expect the LX to be hurt.)

  Mark

On 1 Sep 2000, at 0:04, Behnam Molavi wrote:
> Hi everybody
> What will happen if I use an unregulated power supply?Will this damage
> my 200LX?And if I use an adapter with positive polarity,will the whole
> system burn out or just the onboard power supply?

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Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:30:45 -0700
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Ken London wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Victor Roberts" <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> Subject: Re: Solar Battery Recharger
>
> Will a solar battery charger work on cloudy days?  Here in Massachussetts we
> tend to get many days in a row where it is cloudy.

Several possibles here:

A small solar panel will produce some power at 12V on cloudy days;  my
little twin AA charger will way overcharge 2 AA's on bright days (tries
to push 180mAh into 650mAh NiCad's) - it's supplying about 10mA right
now, so expect slow charging if you go this way.  My larger 1.8W flat
panel solar panels would supply about 12V at 50mA today, normally about
125mA at 14.4V or so - I'm thinking a small lead-acid battery and a
"LDO" (Low drop-out voltage) regulator to charge the LX's at about 11 to
12 volts, should be easy enough.  ÝYou can add mirrors to gather more
light onto the solar cells, just don't over do this and create an
expensive solar powered, solar cell melter!  Expensive, that.¨
Lead-Acid's are "Full" at 13.something volts and "Empty" at 10 volts or
so, so probably can just use a solar panel in parallel with a battery
and

Use a small lead-acid "gel" cell.  The 200LX uses 3V at say 1600mAh i.e.
1.8 Watt Hours worth of power off 2 NiMH 1600mAH batteries, to recharge
that same pair would take 0.4AH of power at 12 volts (if perfectly
efficient, which IS unlikely!) - There are a number of 2AH lead-acid gel
cell batteries that'll cost you about $10 to $12 shipped, build a cheap
slow charger and you have an (admittedly heavy!) portable recharge
station that'd recharge your LX about 3 times anyways before running out
of power.  I need to make a web page on this one <G>

I just use the solar charger to charge AA's, 2 at a time, and keep them
full;  Pick an angle that prevents the batteries being way overcharged
as it'll hurt them (though with modern IC's like the Maxim MAX713, you
can charge a 1- to 4-cell NiCad pack at up to 4C i.e. 2.4A into a 650mAh
NiCad pack...)  The smart controller chip's required or you'll do
damage, though.

You also can use a switcher to create 12V from a 6V lead-acid or 5-6
NiMH's easily enough, I think there's now a Maxim chip out that'll do
this from 1 or 2 "C" cells for that matter.  The main thing's to figure
out what you want then figure out how to make that happen <G>

(I understand you folks in Europe cannot use Lead-Acid's easily;
NiCad's can be solar charged using that MAX713 and then a switcher could
generate 12V for you.)

Seems like every bit of electronics gear I own has a different power
connector, voltage, current requirement, etc., it bugs me that I cannot
just plug anything in to anything else's power feed <G>

  Mark

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At 16:25 10-09-00, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>Chris Lott wrote:
>
> > I'm getting out of my league here, but isn't the US PCS digital cell
> > phone based on the GSM standard?  Just on a different frequency band
> > than our European counterparts?
>
>No.  PCS here in the USA using the same 1900 MHz frequency as
>GSM, but the protocol is regular old CDMA that is used by many
>digital phones on the 800 MHz band.

Are you sure? I own a Nokia 2190 phone that was sold to me by Pac Bell,
called Digital PCS. It takes my European GSM SIM card and actually works in
the US.

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I have been using keybez (from d:\bin) together with Software Carousel
for a long time. Without any apparent reason, this stopped working: When
starting Software Carousel with keybez loaded, the machine hangs and an
hard reboot is necessary.

Removing keybez from autoexec and adding it to the sc*.bat scripts,
Software Carousel works, but keybez not: the settings of fonts that it
should do are not working.

Any ideas, or similar problems?

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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This posting is probably what you are looking for:

<If by "renewing" you mean to change your subscription from one email
address to another, you can do that by sending an email to


 LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
and type in the body of your message

CHange HPLX newaddr

Specify your new email address at newaddr

This command should be sent from your old email address.

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Hi:

I have a HP430 WinCE Palm-sized PC and I'm interested in trading it for=
 a
HP200LX.

The HP430 is in excellent shape and is complete - box, all CD's and
documentation, etc.=A0 Includes MP3 player (with better integrated hard=
ware
controls than the new Pocket PC's) in ROM, as well as Pocket Outlook an=
d
OmniCalc and much more.=A0 Here is a link with the product description:=

http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/430/prod_spec.html

I am looking for a HP200LX that is in excellent shape, not too worn out=
 ...
definitely no cracks.=A0 I would prefer a non-doublespeed, 4MB unit, bu=
t may
consider a 2MB unit.

I will also include a 32MB CF card for a 4MB system with serial connect=
ion
cable in excellent shape.

Thanks,

Mike

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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:04:44 -0400
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Hello to the list,

On occasion, I have need to convert databases to MS Access.  Up until now,
it's been a relatively easy task because I haven't needed to convert any
large databases, and I can recreate them in Access, print the HP database to
a text file, and cut and paste records into the recreated Access database.
A labor-intensive project, yes, but since the databases I've converted were
relatively small, not a great task.  However, now I have a large database to
convert, and am wondering whether anyone has done this in a more or less
automated fashion.  If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.  I've
tried using GBDump, but haven't quite figured it out.

tia,

Claud

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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:12:32 +0800
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Sorry guys but the time has come to defect, having just
bought a Psion 5Mx and enjoying the upgrade, the
HP has been gathering dust for the last fortnight.  So
the following is/are up for sale or swap.

1) Late model HP200LX S/N SG62100115
    Double speed with 5Mb upgrade
2) HP F1011A AC/DC Adapter
3) Connectivity Pack-3 3.5 disks,serial cable,5
adapters, users guide.
4) Serial cable.
5) Greenwich printer cable
6) Megaherz 14.4 Data/Fax Modem & motorola 28.8
     PCMIA modems.
7) Belt loop case.
8) Manuals-Users Guide,

I'm actually after a Pretec 56K compact modem and
a larger compact flash circa 48Meg. So the deal can
be a trade or one of the items plus a bit of cash (all
very negotiable).  I notice CF modems selling on Ebay
but most of the sellers will only sell in the USofA.

Any interested parties please email me as I said it
is negotiable and I would like to think that the list members
get first grabs before I post it on the newsgroups or one of
the auction sites.

Regards to all..........Liam

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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:31:01 -0700
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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

I have a hplx200 and want to use the 123 with 123g graphical
interface, but when I try to save a spreadsheet, it is jumping
to DOS with the error message
        Bad command or file name
showing the name given. Errors also by opening files.

Who can help?

                Klaus.
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Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT)

51m28s ago ...
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> I have a hplx200 and want to use the 123 with 123g graphical
> interface, but when I try to save a spreadsheet, it is jumping
> to DOS with the error message
>         Bad command or file name
> showing the name given. Errors also by opening files.

Hi, Klaus -

Let me ask a dumb question.  Since your email address is in Germany,
are you using the German version of the 200LX?  If so, there's a
version of 123G just for German palmtops.  The English version doesn't
work on non-English palmtops.

If the versions of 123G and palmtop are matched, the problem may be
with the size of the keyboard buffer if you're not loading or saving
from the 123 default directory.  A 128 byte buffer (KBUF128.SYS) is
packaged with KEYSTUFF on SUPER -- or if you use a double speed palmtop
from Thaddeus or Rundle, the current dbl-spd driver also includes a 64
byte buffer.


HTH

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> My test program was extremely simple:
>    Calculate the sum of the vector you get by raising
>     the first n integers to the  1.00001 power. This is
>     very simple, but as the `power' requires calculation
>     of both exponentials and logs it exercises the
>     floating point capability to some extent.

I have no idea what an IPAQ or APL are or what you're comparing.
But from your post it seems to be on a PocketPC machine with,
presumably, a math coprocessor.

If that's the case, how the program was compiled is of real
importance.  Many programs are compiled to use a math coprocessor if
it's there and to provide an emulator provided internally by the
compiler if it's not.

That being the case, is it possible that the DOS emulator in your
IPAQ presents itself as a DOS machine with a math coprocessor and
uses the real coprocessor in the unit?  If so, that could account
for the speed difference.  Or at least confuse the issue enough that
the test isn't meaningful, since the 200lx doesn't have a
coprocessor.

I would only do this on a program I'd compiled myself to always use
the emulation.  That makes it a little closer to an apples vs.
apples test.  The default option on most compilers is to make an exe
that uses the coprocessor if it's there and emulation if not.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:17:01 -0700
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              Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE>
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> The English version doesn't
> work on non-English palmtops.
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello!

Thanks, now I use 123gg and all is working fine.

                Klaus.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:16:11 EDT
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Stan:
Could you please advise details of the cable you mention & where you got it?
TIA
Bill

In a message dated 9/10/00 10:26:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
stanleyd@CARROLL.COM writes:

<< Now, I have one of the new Motorola StarTAC phones with the
 microbrowser and so-called built-in modem.  I connect the phone
 directly to the serial port of the palmtop with a cable.  The phone
 uses it digital mode to send the data right through at 14400 bps.  As
 far as the palmtop knows, it is just working with a regular modem. This
 is a fantastic combination because the phone is tiny, there is only one
 cable, no batteries are drained too much, there is no need to use the
 analog mode, and the data rate is faster.  I highly recommend this
 setup.
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:16:11 EDT, Bill Krauss <Bk361kb@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Could you please advise details of the cable you mention & where you got it?

I'm doing the same thing 'cept with my Qualcomm 860 and a Palm. I haven't
tried it with the LX yet since I don't have a plain serial cable for the
phone yet, only the one for the Palm. 14.4 is very usable and I echo the
comments about great battery life.

Jeff

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If you have a German palmtop, you must use the german version of 123g.

Paulo


Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> I have a hplx200 and want to use the 123 with 123g graphical
> interface, but when I try to save a spreadsheet, it is jumping
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ness Ýmailto:DNess@HOME.COM¨
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:10 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Dos Capability: APL on iPAQ vs. HP200Lx
>
>
> I decided to use Manugistics APL*PLUS (Version 11.0) both to
> test the capabilities of
> PocketDOS on the iPAQ and to attempt to get some speed
> comparison between DOS on the
> iPAQ and DOS on the HP200Lx.

 ÝSNIP¨

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I've been trying to get the APL keyboard to work on a HPLX 200 for years.
They SAY that the 200lx can accept old DOS keyboard files, but I've never
been able to get it to work. Ýif anyone has actually gotten KEYBDZ(sp?) to
work please let me know¨.

 I've tried J, and K,  Ýapologies to list for infra APL offshoot languages
references¨, but "APL Interactive" has spoiled me as far a learning from
anything more difficult. Ýlearning from Ken Iverson's "J" writings, or
Whitney's "K" writings is like trying to learn Calculus from "Principia
Mathematica instead of "Calculus Made Simple"¨

I use Lotus Agenda extensively on my 200LX, do you know if the IPAQ will run
it under PocketDos?

Regards
T

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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:10 PM</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; test the capabilities of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; PocketDOS on the iPAQ and to attempt to get some speed </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; comparison between DOS on the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; iPAQ and DOS on the HP200Lx.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;ÝSNIP¨</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>------A copy of this reply has been sent to the previous Poster-------</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I've been trying to get the APL keyboard to work on a HPLX 200 for years.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>They SAY that the 200lx can accept old DOS keyboard files, but I've never</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>been able to get it to work. Ýif anyone has actually gotten KEYBDZ(sp?) to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>work please let me know¨.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;I've tried J, and K,&nbsp; Ýapologies to list for infra APL offshoot languages</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>references¨, but &quot;APL Interactive&quot; has spoiled me as far a learning from</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>anything more difficult. Ýlearning from Ken Iverson's &quot;J&quot; writings, or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Whitney's &quot;K&quot; writings is like trying to learn Calculus from &quot;Principia</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Mathematica instead of &quot;Calculus Made Simple&quot;¨ </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I use Lotus Agenda extensively on my 200LX, do you know if the IPAQ will run</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>it under PocketDos?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Regards </FONT>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:48:15 -0400
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I see that X-Finder is up to R.11 Beta 11 (in Japanese) at:
http://www.estyle.ne.jp/gaku/

Does anyone have any information about when this will be available in
English? Better yet, when will R.11 be officially released?

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I just learned that Kmart is offering free nationwide (USA) ISP
services.  http://www.bluelight.com  for more info.
Does anyone know if an HP200LX using WWW/LX can make use of them?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:28:02 GMT
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Hey David Ness you or some one can give to me some aswers,
first how can you use PocketDos in an iPaq if it don't have
keyboard? and do you can see colors in dos based programs?
I'm very interesting in it, thank you!

>From: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              David
>Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Dos Capability: APL on iPAQ vs. HP200Lx
>Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:09:59 -0400
>
>I decided to use Manugistics APL*PLUS (Version 11.0) both to test the
>capabilities of
>PocketDOS on the iPAQ and to attempt to get some speed comparison between
>DOS on the
>iPAQ and DOS on the HP200Lx.
>
>Results:
>
>APL loads and runs on the iPAQ, via PocketDOS. There are some (important)
>`keyboard'
>issues that I'll touch on below, but I found I was able to load APL and
>load Workspaces
>that had been written on PCs and moved to the IPAQ without any difficulty.
>
>My test program was extremely simple:
>      Calculate the sum of the vector you get by raising the first n
>integers to the
>      1.00001 power. This is very simple, but as the `power' requires
>calculation of
>      both exponentials and logs it exercises the floating point capability
>to some
>      extent.
>
>The machines:
>     HP200Lx Single Speed
>     iPAQ 3630 running PocketDOS
>
>I tested at two levels: 20,000 items and 30,000 items.
>
>     iPAQ:  20,000 takes 120.010 sec  30,000 takes 213.990 sec
>    HP200:  20,000 takes 366.570 sec  30,000 gets `WS FULL' error
>
>This indicates that the `simulated' DOS on the iPAQ runs about 3 times as
>fast as the
>`real' DOS on the HP200. And, I guess it also indicates---indirectly---that
>the virtual
>`machine' provided by PocketDOS is somewhat bigger than than provided by
>the 200.
>
>Cost:
>     The iPAQ with 32mb costs $500. PocketDOS adds $40
>     The HP200Lx with 32mb costs $600
>
>Keyboard:
>     Keyboard has always been a `nightmare issue' for APL. It is even more
>so when you
>     complicate it by not having a `real' keyboard. The wisdom (IMO) of
>Iverson's
>     departure from the APL symbol set (J uses conventional symbols)
>becomes evident
>     when you try to adapt APL to some `new' computational world.
>
>     I have no doubt that it would be possible to create an `APL Keyboard'
>for the iPAQ,
>     but I also have little doubt that it will not be worthwhile to bother
>to do so. Its
>     principal use, for me, will be to run workspaces that are created
>elsewhere.
>
>Conclusion:
>     The iPAQ is the first palm-format device that seems to be able to run
>DOS faster
>     than even a double speed HP200 (I assume a double speed 200 runs about
>twice as
>     fast as a regular 200. I don't have one, and have never tested this).
>I find that
>     since getting the iPAQ I no longer bother with the 200. The first time
>I have `had
>     the 200 out' in the past weeks was to make this comparison study.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:26:48 -0400
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              Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> I just learned that Kmart is offering free nationwide (USA) ISP
> services.  http://www.bluelight.com  for more info.
> Does anyone know if an HP200LX using WWW/LX can make use of them?
>
Probably not...minim sys req include a Pentium 90.

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Well, I think it might be possible once past the initial setup and login,
using Rasspy.  I'm sure that requirement is for running the software they
provide on CD.
Jim

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> Ken London
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: Kmart - Another free ISP
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> > I just learned that Kmart is offering free nationwide (USA) ISP
> > services.  http://www.bluelight.com  for more info.
> > Does anyone know if an HP200LX using WWW/LX can make use of them?
> >
> Probably not...minim sys req include a Pentium 90.
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>PCS here in the USA using the same 1900 MHz frequency as GSM, but
>the protocol is regular old CDMA that is used by many digital phones
>on the 800 MHz band.
>
>My Motorola StarTAC is a tri-mode phone: Analog and CDMA at 800 MHz
>(like most uial mode digital phones) and CMDA at 1900 MHz (AKA PCS).
>No GSM capabilities at all.

In addition, ATT does 1900 MHZ PCS using TDMA, and there are US
versions of GSM as well.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:33:20 -0400
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Stan -

>Now I have one of the new Motorola StarTAC phones with the
>microbrowser and so-called built-in modem.

OK.

I have the Verizon CDMA StarTAC.

>I connect the phone directly to the serial port of the palmtop with a cable.

I have the StarTAC-to-DB-9 serial cable, and the Thaddeus 9"
DB-to-200LX serial adapter.

>The phone uses it digital mode to send the data right through at
>14400 bps. As far as the palmtop knows, it is just working with a
>regular modem.

Most of my palmtop modemming has been with acCIS. Can you tell me
settings you use?

What do you put in "modem init" and "Dial prefix"?

I have had no success.

Since you have the cable, do you also have the TrueSync CD-ROM ?

Do you have any software with which you can synch the phone and the palmtop?

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:47:37 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> I have a hplx200 and want to use the 123 with 123g graphical
> interface, but when I try to save a spreadsheet, it is jumping
> to DOS with the error message
>         Bad command or file name
> showing the name given. Errors also by opening files.

Klaus,

I suspect you are using a German HPLX - this could be the reason of the
incompatibility with 123g.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              Don Chow <micro@SMARTT.COM>
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In regard to the Motorola i1000+, I have one working great with my single
speed 2MB LX running Goin' Postal, as I described in detail in a post
earlier this year.  Details are on Daniel Hertrich's homepage
<daniel.hplx.net>.  I am using this in Canada through Clearnet which is the
equivalent of Nextel- I roam in the U.S. on Nextel- paying an additional $5
per month for data capability.  The setup works great, basically you need to
buy a data kit (just to get the phone to DB-9 cable) and a null modem
adapter to connect to the LX connectivity cable.  The modem inside the phone
is standard Hayes AT command set AFAIK (it even works with PalmPilots &
Macintoshes apparently) but you do need the special initialization string
(AT&FX4).

Last time I wss in New York I successfully connected to my ISP in Vancouver-
but only the first time, after that I kept getting some error message, can't
remember what now.  But the phone is definitely capable and the modem is LX
compatible.  Whether my inability to reconnect was Nextel not allowing the
connection or just another symptom of the _crappy_ connectivity I was
getting this summer in New York in general, I don't know.  But when I roamed
there in 1999, without data (using a regular i1000) by the way, I had no
complaints.  The difference was like night & day.


200LX in Vancouver

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:53:00 +0100
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I have solved the problem by deleting the file carousel.opt, and
re-configuring all the Software Carousel parameters. Somehow the
configuration of Software Carousel got corrupted.

Hope it helps anyone else.
Paulo

Paulo Custodio wrote:
>
> I have been using keybez (from d:\bin) together with Software Carousel
> for a long time. Without any apparent reason, this stopped working: When
> starting Software Carousel with keybez loaded, the machine hangs and an
> hard reboot is necessary.
>
> Removing keybez from autoexec and adding it to the sc*.bat scripts,
> Software Carousel works, but keybez not: the settings of fonts that it
> should do are not working.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:46:37 +0100
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I have just tried XFinder server on my Windows NT 4, and it worked on
the first try, without any configuration hassle.

For those who do not know it: XFinder server runs on the desktop PC, and
allows file transfer to/from the HPLX running XFinder through the serial
cable.

Paulo

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:37:00 -0400
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Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:35:46 -0500 (EST)

I use the 860 w/ LX and it works fine...still need to shorten the cable
though...a bit cumbersome.

Cheers...AJKind

21h09m53s ago ...
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Jeff wrote:

> I'm doing the same thing 'cept with my Qualcomm 860 and a Palm. I =
haven't
> tried it with the LX yet since I don't have a plain serial cable for =
the
> phone yet, only the one for the Palm. 14.4 is very usable and I echo =
the
> comments about great battery life.
>
> Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:23:11 -0500
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Let me start off by saying I have teenagers in the house and want
to monitor the extent of their phone usage--so far as I know there
is nothing illegal about what I would like to do.

I would like to be able to monitor the numbers dialed from my house,
and the time and duration of each call.  I have an extra 200LX just
laying around as a back-up, and could dedicate it to this purpose.

My first thought was to use a modem, but I don't think that is a
possibility.  My next thought was to use some device attached to
the serial port.  I've seen commercial devices that will do what
I want, but they run nearly $100.  It doesn't seem like it would be
too difficult to construct a device that would monitor the phone
line and capture dialed numbers and the times the TIP goes high
and low.  Does anyone have suggestions on where I might start?

Thanks!

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:44:31 -0400
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:23:11 -0500, Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> I would like to be able to monitor the numbers dialed from my house,
> and the time and duration of each call.  I have an extra 200LX just
> laying around as a back-up, and could dedicate it to this purpose.

Ramsey Electronics sells a kit, the TG-1 tone grabber that will do what you
want it to do. It's $99.95 and has a 256 digit memory. The poor man's
solution would be to use a tape recorder that starts automatically when a
receiver is lifted by using a 43-228 ($19.95) from Rat Shack and recording
the tones as they are dialed. You then merely call a digital pager number
(you do have one don't you?) and playing the tones into the mouthpiece of
the phone. The decoded digits will magically be sent through the air to your
pager. I have used both methods..... I love this James Bond stuff :-)

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:17:46 +0000
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Does anybody of the australien list members know of a free
australien internet provider? I mean a provider, where you
don't have to be registered, but where you dial an accessnumber
and only pay to the phone company for the online phonetime.

I would like to know the phonenumber and the required
login/password. Such services exist in Germany under the name
"Internet Call by Call".

Background: During the Olympic games phone calls to Australia
are free using the german Provider Talkline (predial 01050).

Stefan

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:08:18 +0100
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hello all,

does anyone use the 7110 as a modem for the 200lx? what do you use? do you
do it using the idra, or a cable? i have just got a 7110, and was hoping to
use it for mobile data use with my 200lx. i am guessing i need pppd or
www/lx or summat

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:42:37 -0500
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Jeff wrote:

> Ramsey Electronics sells a kit, the TG-1 tone grabber that will do what you
> want it to do. It's $99.95 and has a 256 digit memory. The poor man's
> solution would be to use a tape recorder that starts automatically when a
> receiver is lifted by using a 43-228 ($19.95) from Rat Shack and recording
> the tones as they are dialed. You then merely call a digital pager number
> (you do have one don't you?) and playing the tones into the mouthpiece of
> the phone. The decoded digits will magically be sent through the air to your
> pager. I have used both methods..... I love this James Bond stuff :-)

Could the 43-228 be used to start a timer (on the LX or otherwise)
so I wouldn't have to try to get the duration from the length of tape?

Ted

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              ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM
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My company has a software partnership with MS, so I have been
asking them to validate the accusations y'all have been making
about how they killed the 200LX. So far the answer seems to be
that they told HP that they could no longer support DOS enabled
platforms unless it was part of a Win platform. This was not
because there was a Gates inspired "rule the world" conspiracy,
rather that they could not find and motivate staff to learn the
intricacies of a command line driven platform with no further
development future. I have asked whether CE has turned out any
easier to support and the answers are ambivalent. It has not, in
total, but it has been much simpler as it relates to MS and
hardware issues only. Like DOS, they keep running into problems
with other software not fully beta proven and all the instability
issues that we are so familiar with. A plain untouched, unmodified
CE has in its latest guise proven reliable. Some people are trying
to do the sort of push on CE that some of our LX developers have
done so well for us. They have failed to offer the time or
facilities to support their product by simply offering MS or the
platform as an excuse as to why their software will not work.

So it seems to be the inevitable march of time. There were some
comments to me that some focus groups were given the opportunity
to play with CE, laptop, 200LX and palm devices. The 200LX was the
hands down loser, and not just because of the screen. This was
done before the latest version of SC and I doubt that Post or
wwwlx figured in the evaluation either. But the guy I talked to
did know about Accis and compuserve.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:23:57 -0400
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:42:37 -0500, Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> Could the 43-228 be used to start a timer (on the LX or otherwise)
> so I wouldn't have to try to get the duration from the length of tape?

All the 43-228 does is act as an on/off switch for the recorder with a
remote jack, so I see no reason why you couldn't hack 'something' to provide
that.

Jeff

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> 6) call e.g. my POST/LX SC session which is loaded with the following
> batch file :
>   cd c:\w3
>   maxdos -l -e
>   www -d "!POST"
>   maxdos -r

Do you really need maxdos and SC?  That seems redundant and may be your
problem.  Both programs work by swapping the computer's memory to a disk =
file.
If one tries to restore a previous memory configuration it might confuse =
the
other program and crash your palmtop.

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Can anyone help?

Needed - software that allows both text and graphic remote access / control
of a 200lx from a win95 desktop (running either dos shell or booted to dos)

So far, Ed Keefe and Hal Goldstein have suggested pc anywhere 4.5 for dos -
Can anyone confirm use or success of this version - and can anyone say where
this specific version may be sourced or found ??

Many thanks, Bubbles  propfast@aol.com

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:55:43 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:33:46 +0200, Martin Bergvill wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:21:54 +0200, Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> * What is the format of the bussines card sent to/from Nokia and Palm
> pilot? When I try to send hp200>nokia I just get a "done" (using IrDA)
> but nothing appears on the Nokia 7110 or 8210.

This is what I transfer from the Hp200Lx's phonebook to a Nokia 7110:

BEGIN:VCARD
N:Tomas Moberg
TEL;WORK:+465556321
TEL;CELL:+465556321
TEL;FAX:+465556321
TEL;HOME:+465556321
TEL:+46556321
TEL;WORK:
EMAIL:tomas.moberg@abc.se
LABEL:Adresse here
NOTE:Notes here
END:VCARD

The 7110 can store 5 numbers and two textfields. All other Nokia's can
store only name and one phonenumber sot the Vcard should look like
this:

BEGIN:VCARD
N:Tomas Moberg
TEL:+46556321
END:VCARD


Added:

I use the 7110 with Www/lc 3.0. I can not use it at 19200 but all other
speeds work. I have set up Www/lx as described in the text/docs.

Nothing special. I use a DS machine on 38400 and I can place the phone
about half a meter away from the Hplx.

Works very good..

Feel free to post more questions..

Regards

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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:55:49 -0400
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:08:18 +0100, Mark Johnson wrote:

> hello all,
>
> does anyone use the 7110 as a modem for the 200lx? what do you use? do you
> do it using the idra, or a cable? i have just got a 7110, and was hoping to
> use it for mobile data use with my 200lx. i am guessing i need pppd or
> www/lx or summat

See other message whith subject "Nokia 7110 & Www/lx" I use it via
irda..and also for some more(Vcards)

Regards

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I sure would like tro find that too.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> firstname Bubbles
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 3:28 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Remote Access / Control Software
>
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Needed - software that allows both text and graphic remote
> access / control
> of a 200lx from a win95 desktop (running either dos shell or
> booted to dos)
>
> So far, Ed Keefe and Hal Goldstein have suggested pc anywhere
> 4.5 for dos -
> Can anyone confirm use or success of this version - and can
> anyone say where
> this specific version may be sourced or found ??
>
> Many thanks, Bubbles  propfast@aol.com
>
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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:01:43 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Colin Cohen wrote:
>     So far the answer seems to be
> that they told HP that they could no longer support DOS enabled
> platforms unless it was part of a Win platform.

Support?
I don't want/need any 'support' for an 8 year old OS burned in ROM.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:22:42 +0800
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Could someone recommend to me a program that could sort alphabetically a
dos directory?

I've used long time ago a 16bit program called sort.exe from Norton
Utilities but when I tried to sort the directory on my compact flash card,
the entries came out alternately with garbage files.  I could be mistaken
here but I assume that is caused by the 32-bit formatting of the CF card or
the way my win95 machine transfers files.

I believe I've tried also the command line sort command of DIR but the
result is only applied to the output screen results.  The directory order
themselves are not changed.

Kindly copy furnish me via private email any replies.  I get the list in
digest form and am a few weeks late.  Many thanks in advance.

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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:43:01 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>
> > 6) call e.g. my POST/LX SC session which is loaded with the following
> > batch file :
> >   cd c:\w3
> >   maxdos -l -e
> >   www -d "!POST"
> >   maxdos -r
>
> Do you really need maxdos and SC?  That seems redundant and may be your
> problem.  Both programs work by swapping the computer's memory to a disk file.
> If one tries to restore a previous memory configuration it might confuse the
> other program and crash your palmtop.

Yes - you definitely need maxdos when you want to call PGP from within
PalEdit which is nested in POST/LX. This needs a lot of memory ;-)

I have it working now. Mack told me to check his latest TREMM drivers
which work fine. I suspect also that the loaded EXP drivers might
have been creating the havock - this needs to be verified though.

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DS.EXE (Directory Sort) from an old DOS version of Norton Utilities (4.5 I
think) (wow, deja vu).  I used it for years before DIR/OD was invented.  I
probably have a copy around somewhere...

Eric

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>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              Oliver
>Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Directory sort program
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:22:42 +0800
>
>Could someone recommend to me a program that could sort alphabetically a
>dos directory?
>
>I've used long time ago a 16bit program called sort.exe from Norton
>Utilities but when I tried to sort the directory on my compact flash card,
>the entries came out alternately with garbage files.  I could be mistaken
>here but I assume that is caused by the 32-bit formatting of the CF card or
>the way my win95 machine transfers files.
>
>I believe I've tried also the command line sort command of DIR but the
>result is only applied to the output screen results.  The directory order
>themselves are not changed.
>
>Kindly copy furnish me via private email any replies.  I get the list in
>digest form and am a few weeks late.  Many thanks in advance.
>
>Oliver Chua
>bud@mindgate.net
>
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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:14:36 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

Stefan Peichl asked me to replace the progressive JPEGs on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff
by standard JPEGs.

it's done now. now also LXPIC is able to display the pictures. :-)

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:38:44 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Steve,

> > 6) call e.g. my POST/LX SC session which is loaded with the following
> > batch file :
> >   cd c:\w3
> >   maxdos -l -e
> >   www -d "!POST"
> >   maxdos -r
>
> Do you really need maxdos and SC?  That seems redundant and may be your
> problem.  Both programs work by swapping the computer's memory to a disk file.
> If one tries to restore a previous memory configuration it might confuse the
> other program and crash your palmtop.

May I kindly ask you to explain why SC and MAXDOS seem redundant to you,
particular in the upper described case?

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:08:33 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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I once built a answering machine from a Commodore64 and a taperecorder.
Once the C64 detected an incoming phonecall it started a synthersized
voice message and after the beep it started the taperecorder.
To this I added a DTMF decoder. It was a cheap little IC that converted
the DTMF tones to a byte wich could be read by the Commodore64. My
intention was to remotly control my house. By phoning myself I got
acces to the DTMF decoder wich was supposed to go to different relays
depending on what keys on the phone where pressed (with a initial password
ofcourse).

Anyhow, go for the tip You got from Jeff :-)

Theodore Heise wrote:
> I would like to be able to monitor the numbers dialed from my house,
> and the time and duration of each call.  I have an extra 200LX just
> laying around as a back-up, and could dedicate it to this purpose.

      /tomas moberg
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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:12:41 -0700
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              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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I use Norton Utilities v6.1 on all my DOS machines. The DS
utility (Directory Sort) does what you want. Command line:

DS NE C:\ /S

Where DS calls the program from the Norton subdirectory
Where NE specifies the sort order (fileName first, Ext 2nd)
Where C:\ is the drive and starting directory (root)
Where /S invokes the switch to include all Subdirectories
Hope this helps.


 Bob Christopher   Littleton, Colorado USA   bc@chisp.net
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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:10:39 -0400
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A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> 440MB vs. 512MB, requires driver vs. no driver ... I believe 512 is =
oemed
> from another manufacturer
> Anecdotally - from what my perception is, but unmeasured - the
> 512 is faster, a lot faster ... 440 is recognized by Win 95 and
> Win 98 as sandisk something ...  The 512 is plain ATA card

Hmmm.  I assume the 440 is the Sandisk card and the 512 is from
MCT? The important point here is the way that Win95/98
recognizes the card.  The Sandisk card is just a flash card and
presents itself that way.  And I guess the 200LX ROM cannot use
a card identified as Sandisk flash card that big without a
driver,

But the other card presents itself as a ATA drive and that
implies it has it's own intelligent controller on the card and
therefore does a bit more of the work instead of leaving it up
to the ROM drivers.  In other words, this card is smarter.  So,
this may explain why is does not need a driver.

Remember the Double Flash Plus cards sold by ACE Technologies?
They presented themselves as an ATA device to Win95/98 instead
of pretending to be a Sandisk flash card.  And these cards were
quite fast.  I wonder of the 512MB card might be from IBM as
the ACE DF+ cards were.


Stan

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> There were some comments to me that some focus
> groups were given the opportunity to play with CE,
> laptop, 200LX and palm devices. The 200LX was
> the hands down loser...

This is probably for the same reason that DOS and Linux/Unix haven't
gone mainstream: it simply requires the user to LEARN how to use the OS
and to THINK about what they are doing. Whereas Windoze and the MacOS
simple allow the user to point and click, (instant gratification, very
little effort) -- although some people have a hard time with that, too.
Which shows that they are the 'lower half', ie: the half of all people
who are of below average intelligence. I think that we as 200LX/DOS
afficionados/experts, can consider ourselves to be in the 'upper half'.

(The above statement, while true, is meant to be taken with a sense of
humor, and tongue firmly in cheek.)

;-)

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I can do all this with my StarGate home automation controller right out of
the box.  But it cost $1000.  And wouldn't work with the HP200lx ;-)

See more info in my sig line.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: 200LX to monitor phone?


> I once built a answering machine from a Commodore64 and a taperecorder.
> Once the C64 detected an incoming phonecall it started a synthersized
> voice message and after the beep it started the taperecorder.
> To this I added a DTMF decoder. It was a cheap little IC that converted
> the DTMF tones to a byte wich could be read by the Commodore64. My
> intention was to remotly control my house. By phoning myself I got
> acces to the DTMF decoder wich was supposed to go to different relays
> depending on what keys on the phone where pressed (with a initial password
> ofcourse).
>
> Anyhow, go for the tip You got from Jeff :-)
>
> Theodore Heise wrote:
> > I would like to be able to monitor the numbers dialed from my house,
> > and the time and duration of each call.  I have an extra 200LX just
> > laying around as a back-up, and could dedicate it to this purpose.
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Richard and Patti Smith wrote:

> This is probably for the same reason that DOS and Linux/Unix haven't
> gone mainstream: it simply requires the user to LEARN how to use the OS
> and to THINK about what they are doing. Whereas Windoze and the MacOS
> simple allow the user to point and click, (instant gratification, very
> little effort) --

Works fine as long as you only use common options -- Finding where in
the cascading menues the options you really want are hidden can get to
be an interesting hunt...

> although some people have a hard time with that, too.
> Which shows that they are the 'lower half', ie: the half of all people
> who are of below average intelligence.

Good theory 8-)   Only thing is that some folks who have trouble with
Windoze are DOS or UNIX/LINUX power users...

I think that we as 200LX/DOS
> afficionados/experts, can consider ourselves to be in the 'upper half'.

I'll drink to that!  But it could be hard with tongue in cheek  8-)


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> DS.EXE (Directory Sort) from an old DOS version
> of Norton Utilities (4.5 I think) (wow, deja vu).
>  I used it for years before DIR/OD was invented.  I
> probably have a copy around somewhere...

I have a copy of DS.EXE.  If anyone wants it send me a private email
and I'll put it in the reply.  It's only 36k in size.  It does work
on the LX, although I've always been afraid to try it on a flash
card.  I have no idea if that will work or not.

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>> Theodore Heise wrote:
>> > I would like to be able to monitor the numbers dialed from my house,
>> > and the time and duration of each call.  I have an extra 200LX just
>> > laying around as a back-up, and could dedicate it to this purpose.

I believe the easiest would be to use a logging function in one of the
shareware BBS packages.. Telix even has a host config that would log
incoming as well as outgoing calls and times.. If my hazy memory serves me
correctly.

Hope this helps

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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Russell Hemery wrote:

> I believe the easiest would be to use a logging function in one of the
> shareware BBS packages.. Telix even has a host config that would log
> incoming as well as outgoing calls and times..

Wouldn't this require that all calls be initiated or answered
by the modem?  I want to track calls dialed from all handsets.
Or maybe I don't understand the BBS paradigm?

Ted

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At 06:17 PM 9/12/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Does anybody of the australien list members know of a free
>australien internet provider? I mean a provider, where you
>don't have to be registered, but where you dial an accessnumber
>and only pay to the phone company for the online phonetime.

Hi Stefan and list

The only one I know of is www.freeonline.com.au  You need to register and
they will only give 3 hours per day outside of a "free" zone of 4000 web
sites.  Other than that its free.  I dont know if they have advertising
requirements or not.

Free ISP's in Australia have a hard time as our top level telco charges
about US$0.10 per MB for all traffic in and out of the ISP.  Somehow the
ISP needs to recoup the traffic charges as well as normal
hardware/development costs etc.

Cheers

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Got my 540 Friday and all I can say is that it is going to be a long
learning curve and fingers crossed that utilities come available as they

have for the palm.

It is a totally different beast, even after several months with an IBM
Z50 CE2.0 (that I spent a lot of time learning to respect,) I am still
attempting to learn the general philosophy and tricks.

Major Pros; Smaller, voice recorder when closed, picture viewing,
compact flash, ir (including Palm contact swaps) and the ability to
include sketches in notes

Major Cons; Not usable in sunlight (ok in indirect sunlight), totally
dependant on desktop and activsync, very closed system (can't see file
extensions, etc)

HP support is toll call and yesterday, after 5-10 minutes of voice
navigation, the caller would be routed to a busy signal.  It took a
while and a pointer from an insider to find an email support option at;

http://www.hp.com/jornada/assistance/feedback.html

Best find so far is msnews.microsoft.com.microsoft.public.pocketpc where

the IPAQ is currently king but the 540 is in second place.

My 200LX is still at hand.  It survived and conquered the Palm and it
remains to be seen if it will overcome it's own grandson.

 Beverly Howard


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Hello!

1.)
It's certainly an (very) old question, but I tried the 'search' and the
lotos-site but without success. And you know, that the doc in the
hplx200-book isn't one -). Where can I get a lotus-123-doc-file on the
net?

2.)
I studied the first list-docs, but couldn't find the case, which is
posting me all available listnames, not only hplx-l.

                Thanks in advance Klaus.
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I believe that Thaddeus sells the MicroRef guide and you can order it on the
net. I bought one years ago at a book stgore and it's great.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Klaus Reinhardt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:58 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Where to get lotus 123 doc?
>
>
> Hello!
>
> 1.)
> It's certainly an (very) old question, but I tried the
> 'search' and the
> lotos-site but without success. And you know, that the doc in the
> hplx200-book isn't one -). Where can I get a lotus-123-doc-file on the
> net?
>
> 2.)
> I studied the first list-docs, but couldn't find the case, which is
> posting me all available listnames, not only hplx-l.
>
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              Alban Pearce <alban@MYCROFT.U-NET.COM>
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Wanting a version of quicken to run on my dos pc I bought quicken
for the 100lx After asking if it would run (:-()
It arrived as an exm file AAAARGH, I was expecting an exe file and
a loader....
Is there any way of running Exm files on a vanilla dos 5 or 6.22
system ( have a mixed system Dos 6.22 /Nt4 /Linux ) Pc and a
Lovely 8 meg DS 200 Lx ( my old ones display died )

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Beverly Howard" <Bev@BEVHOWARD.COM>
> Got my 540 Friday and all I can say is that it is going to be a long
> learning curve and fingers crossed that utilities come available as they

I got an HP545 several months ago...I am firmly convinced that HP knows
nothing about this machine, Windows CE, or the software on it.  I had a
problem where  Microsoft Money had duplicate files...the woman from HP spoke
very bad english and made the problem much worse.  Do yourself a favor...if
you have a problem avoid calling HP.  HP customer support will make the
problem worse.

Afer using an HP200lx...i am having a hard time adjusting to another
machine.

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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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Bob,

My apologies to all the list members.  The name of the file is DS.EXE (not
SORT.EXE).  I must have renamed it long time ago because I had a hard time
remembering DS.

Bob, thank you for your suggested command line.  Never knew that in all the
years I've used the program.  I thought it solved my problem since it did
sort it properly.  However, when I popped my flashcard back on my Win95
machine, scandisk reported that all the long filenames are screwed up and
have to be discarded.  I am now sure that the culprit is caused by Win95
creating long filenames (although I use 8.3 file naming format).  I guess
DS does not know what to do with long filenames.  Note that I do not have a
problem when the files are created on my HP200LX.  I assume because they
don't use long filenames.

Any other suggestions?  Or is there a way to temporarily tell my Win95
machine not to use long filename formats when saving files on the CF card?
BTW, not sure what version of DS I have.  That's the only Norton Utility I
found useful before.  File length is 28,734  and dated on 06-01-88.  When
starting up, it says:

DS-Directory Sort, Advanced Edition, (C) Copr 1987, 1988, Peter Norton

Again, thanks for your suggestion but I'm still stuck.

Oliver Chua
bud@mindgate.net

Bob Christopher blah, blah, blahed ...
>I use Norton Utilities v6.1 on all my DOS machines. The DS
>utility (Directory Sort) does what you want. Command line:
>
>DS NE C:\ /S

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> May I kindly ask you to explain why SC and MAXDOS seem redundant to =
you,
> particular in the upper described case?

I see both programs as a way to "freeze" the current program by saving =
the
current computer memory to a disk file.  This allows the user to run =
another
program with a large amount of system memory available.  Then the user =
can go
back to the original program and pick up right where he/she left off.  =
This is
often faster and more convienient that closing down the first program to =
run
the second, then restarting the first program.

With this case, I believe the person wants to run PGP while doing E-mail =
with
Post/LX and PE.  I don't use PGP, but I think he should be able to =
compose an
E-mail in PE then save it to Post's temporary file.  Then swap to another =
SC
session and run PGP (or a batch file that starts PGP) to sign or encode =
the
message.  The swap back to the Post/LX SC session and finish the message.

I worry, perhaps without cause, the Maxdos and SC may both try to swap =
the same
portion of memory and result in corruption.  Since I think you can do =
every
thing a Maxdos user would want with SC, why risk both?

Steve Carder

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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Let's face it, the people who want a configurable, flexible palmtop PC
are now minor players in the overall PDA market. The "masses" have
moved in, and the market is responding to their needs, not ours. We
still have those needs, and we sometimes expect the manufacturers to
cater to them, but really they can get many more sales by making a
product that to us seems inferior.

Reminds me of Grandpa Simpson: I used to be "with it", but then they
changed what "it" was. Now what I'm "with" isn't "it" anymore, and
what's "it" seems strange and scary to me.

--
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hp jornada 720

http://www.hp.com/jornada/

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hello Russel and Stefan,

and I read their FAQ, they do not provide POP3 / SMTP access for free.
Only Webmail is possible in a limited time.
https://www.freeonline.com.au/preregister/faq.html

so this service would be rather useless for me and my Post/lx

Werner

On 14 Sep 2000, at 4:35, Russell Hemery wrote:

> At 06:17 PM 9/12/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >Does anybody of the australien list members know of a free
> >australien internet provider? I mean a provider, where you
> >don't have to be registered, but where you dial an accessnumber
> >and only pay to the phone company for the online phonetime.
>
> Hi Stefan and list
>
> The only one I know of is www.freeonline.com.au  You need to register
> and they will only give 3 hours per day outside of a "free" zone of 4000
> web sites.  Other than that its free.  I dont know if they have
> advertising requirements or not.
>
> Free ISP's in Australia have a hard time as our top level telco charges
> about US$0.10 per MB for all traffic in and out of the ISP.  Somehow the
> ISP needs to recoup the traffic charges as well as normal
> hardware/development costs etc.
>
> Cheers
>
> Russell
>



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Oliver Chua wrote;

> However, when I popped my flashcard back on my Win95
> machine, scandisk reported that all the long filenames are screwed up and
> have to be discarded.

Yes, using DS on a Windoze 95 disk is a good way to practice
reinstalling Windows...  DS.EXE knows nothing (shades of sergeant
Shultz) about long file names.  And Win95 is dependent on the
long version.

> Any other suggestions?  Or is there a way to temporarily tell my Win95
> machine not to use long filename formats when saving files on the CF card?

I *THINK* that if you follow the DOS file naming conventions,
that Win95 will use "short" file names only.  That means
capital letters, numbers, and restricted symbols only.  I
have had mixed results though (pilot error?).  And if you
shutdown to MS-DOS mode, the "long" file names are turned
off.

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Maybe this was discussed already while I was sleeping <g>, but I have two
questions:

1) What is the Win95 app that is saving the file to the CF card?

2) Why do you want to sort the directory?

In regards to the latter, DS.exe was useful in the days preceding robust file
management programs like Xtree and our own File Manager which already sorts the
display for you.  What is the impetus for doing so now?

- Longden





Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET> on 09/13/2000 05:32:41 PM

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Subject:  Re: Directory sort program



Bob, thank you for your suggested command line.  Never knew that in all the
years I've used the program.  I thought it solved my problem since it did
sort it properly.  However, when I popped my flashcard back on my Win95
machine, scandisk reported that all the long filenames are screwed up and
have to be discarded.  I am now sure that the culprit is caused by Win95
creating long filenames (although I use 8.3 file naming format).  I guess
DS does not know what to do with long filenames.  Note that I do not have a
problem when the files are created on my HP200LX.  I assume because they
don't use long filenames.

Any other suggestions?  Or is there a way to temporarily tell my Win95
machine not to use long filename formats when saving files on the CF card?
BTW, not sure what version of DS I have.  That's the only Norton Utility I
found useful before.  File length is 28,734  and dated on 06-01-88.  When
starting up, it says:

DS-Directory Sort, Advanced Edition, (C) Copr 1987, 1988, Peter Norton

Again, thanks for your suggestion but I'm still stuck.

Oliver Chua
bud@mindgate.net

Bob Christopher blah, blah, blahed ...
>I use Norton Utilities v6.1 on all my DOS machines. The DS
>utility (Directory Sort) does what you want. Command line:
>
>DS NE C:\ /S

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Hi,
I use PC Anywhere ver. 4.5 on my 200lx.  I use the 200 to control the remote
PC though.  I'm reasonable sure that it would work the other way, but I'm
not sure what you mean by "graphic" remote access.  Can you elaborate a
little more about what you are trying to do?  If you wish to take this off
list, please feel free to email me privately.
Also,  about six months ago I had several copies of PC Anywhere I offered
for sale to the list.  I think they are all gone, but I'll look for you.
Later,
bob

> ------------------------------
> Date:    Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:27:55 EDT
> From:    firstname Bubbles <Propfast@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Remote Access / Control Software
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Needed - software that allows both text and graphic remote access /
control
> of a 200lx from a win95 desktop (running either dos shell or booted to
dos)
>
> So far, Ed Keefe and Hal Goldstein have suggested pc anywhere 4.5 for
dos -
> Can anyone confirm use or success of this version - and can anyone say
where
> this specific version may be sourced or found ??
>
> Many thanks, Bubbles  propfast@aol.com
>

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Hello Klaus,

Thursday, September 14, 2000, 4:57:57 AM, you wrote:

> It's certainly an (very) old question, but I tried the 'search' and the
> lotos-site but without success. And you know, that the doc in the
> hplx200-book isn't one -). Where can I get a lotus-123-doc-file on the
> net=3F

I found ~5 different books about Lotus 1-2-3 in our library (FH Konstanz).
I'm sure you will find some in one of the TU libaries. I'm normally not
lucky about all those tons of old books of software I sometimes never
heard of, but it's a great archive for 'old' (but still practical)
software. With the books I found, I managed my last statistics exam
without effort ;-)

Bye
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I am interested in buying it too.

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Remote Access / Control Software


Hi,
I use PC Anywhere ver. 4.5 on my 200lx.  I use the 200 to control the remote
PC though.  I'm reasonable sure that it would work the other way, but I'm
not sure what you mean by "graphic" remote access.  Can you elaborate a
little more about what you are trying to do?  If you wish to take this off
list, please feel free to email me privately.
Also,  about six months ago I had several copies of PC Anywhere I offered
for sale to the list.  I think they are all gone, but I'll look for you.
Later,
bob

> ------------------------------
> Date:    Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:27:55 EDT
> From:    firstname Bubbles <Propfast@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Remote Access / Control Software
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Needed - software that allows both text and graphic remote access /
control
> of a 200lx from a win95 desktop (running either dos shell or booted to
dos)
>
> So far, Ed Keefe and Hal Goldstein have suggested pc anywhere 4.5 for
dos -
> Can anyone confirm use or success of this version - and can anyone say
where
> this specific version may be sourced or found ??
>
> Many thanks, Bubbles  propfast@aol.com
>

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Norton DS.EXE/COM woiks just fine
Any version, anytime, anyplace.
yor pal al.......

--- Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> > DS.EXE (Directory Sort) from an old DOS version
> > of Norton Utilities (4.5 I think) (wow, deja vu).
> >  I used it for years before DIR/OD was invented.  I
> > probably have a copy around somewhere...
>
> I have a copy of DS.EXE.  If anyone wants it send me a
> private email
> and I'll put it in the reply.  It's only 36k in size.  It
> does work
> on the LX, although I've always been afraid to try it on
> a flash
> card.  I have no idea if that will work or not.
>
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>> fatal attraction with machines that are no longer available <<

Surprised that no one else here is talking about the Sony C1-X...
series.  I've had a C1-XG for over a year and am totally sold.  The
newest incarnation announced uses the "Carouso" (sp?) low power chip.
The form factor is 9.25x5.5x1.25 with a 1024x480 screen.

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Hi Oliver Chua,

>Bob, thank you for your suggested command line.  Never knew that in all
the
>years I've used the program.  I thought it solved my problem since it
did
>sort it properly.  However, when I popped my flashcard back on my Win95
>machine, scandisk reported that all the long filenames are screwed up
and
>have to be discarded.  I am now sure that the culprit is caused by Win95
>creating long filenames (although I use 8.3 file naming format).  I
guess
>DS does not know what to do with long filenames.  Note that I do not
have a
>problem when the files are created on my HP200LX.  I assume because they
>don't use long filenames.

The DS.EXE program was made to operate on a disk formatted with a 16 bit
FAT.  The disks used by your Windows computer are formatted with a 32 bit
FAT that allows long file names.

Operating on the file system with a 32 bit FAT with a utility that was
made to operate on a file system with a 16 bit FAT can dangerous.

You are right that DS.EXE cannot handle long filenames.

>Any other suggestions?  Or is there a way to temporarily tell my Win95
>machine not to use long filename formats when saving files on the CF
card?

I suggest looking for a newer utility that was made to operate on a 32
bit FAT that will do what you want.  I personally don't know of one like
that.  I'm sorry.

It used to be optional to format a hard drive as 16 bit or 32 bit.  I'm
not sure if that is an option anymore in newer machines.  The 32 bit FAT
is what allows long file names.

Besides, reformatting your drive is a rather permanent thing. ;-)  It's
not what I would consider as a temporary solution.

There is a way to access your 32 bit formatted drive by by-passing the 32
bit FAT and going into a DOS mode that operates in 16 bit mode that is
completely unaware of the Disk's 32 bit FAT, but that's just as
dangerous, so I won't describe the various ways to  get into that mode.

I wouldn't recommend accessing your hard drive with DOS any other way
than within a DOS window where the 32 bit FAT is active and aware... but
I would not recommend using a 16 bit utility that operates on the file
system, either... even from within a DOS window.

I wish I could be more help, but I wanted to at least warn you of the
danger of working on newer computers with old DOS utilities that were
designed to operate on the older 16 bit file systems.

I hope someone else can point you to a utility that was designed to work
on a drive that is formatted as a 32 bit file system.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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>> She <<

Isn't it amazing how a change in gender impacts your vision of the
writer, and more importantly, the writing.

 Beverly Howard (one who should not be surprised)

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FWIW, the HP 54x deals with his primary issue (has a compact flash slot)
and there is rumor that the lastest "build" of ActiveSync addresses his
other issue.

 Beverly Howard

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One note... I would recommend a single port card as a dual port card
must use the same IRQ for both com ports so that only one of the two is
usable at once.

Hope this Helps...
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There was an excellent article in FoxPro advisor about a year+ back that
described using Visual FoxPro to create and read Access Databases for
use on CE machines.

Gonna require programming (i.e. you can RUN external programs to
generate the text files)

I'm headed there when I can find a minute.

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Oliver Chua wrote:
> My apologies to all the list members.  The name of the file is DS.EXE (not
> SORT.EXE).  I must have renamed it long time ago because I had a hard time
> remembering DS.

Fyi... There is a SORT.EXE program, it is part of Dos although not
included in D:\DOS\ on the 200lx.  Sort is a filter usually used for
sorting files.

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Since the processor in the 540 is 166mhz and IPAQ probably similar, it's
surprising that it's not significantly faster.

 Beverly Howard


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Steve Carder wrote:
>
> With this case, I believe the person wants to run PGP while doing E-mail with
> Post/LX and PE.  I don't use PGP, but I think he should be able to compose an
> E-mail in PE then save it to Post's temporary file.  Then swap to another SC
> session and run PGP (or a batch file that starts PGP) to sign or encode the
> message.  The swap back to the Post/LX SC session and finish the message.
>
> I worry, perhaps without cause, the Maxdos and SC may both try to swap the same
> portion of memory and result in corruption.  Since I think you can do every
> thing a Maxdos user would want with SC, why risk both?

SC "simulates" a seperate palmtop and gives it a predefined amount of
memory. Within that memory you may run whatever program you want. If
this program is memory hungry you have to try to give it as much as
possible. The best way is to use maxdos.

Your proposal to use the temporary file created by POST/LX and operate
with PGP on it would work but is cumbersome. Why go the difficult route
if it can be done a much simpler way.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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I just had an interesting experience.  Before a recent trip, I was copying
some software to my palmtop so I could work on it while away.  One
utility I use on this project is a software control package, like Unix's
RCS.  Anyway, the executable of the DOS program told me it was compiled
for an 80286 or greater - if you wanted an 8088 version, contact the
author.  I did, and he promptly provided a version for me (after saying
he has had that message in the code for about 1o years, and I was the
first person to ever call and ask for it!).

Then he inquired what palmtop I was using (I guess he was intrigued
that I was using my palmtop for professional software development).
I replied with a short but complete description of the palmtop, including
a brief section describing how HP has abandoned this fine series of
computers, with no suitable follow-on.

Next thing I know, I get a cc message from him that he has sent to
the CEO of the HP company!  I truly didn't ask, nor reasonably expect,
that a third party would take such drastic steps.  It is an interesting
reaction, to say the least.

Has anyone else written/corresponded officially to HP about the 200LX
series (I know some have threatened to on the list awhile back)?  If
so, what action, if any, happened?


Here's a copy of what he sent...

> Dear President Fiorina,
>
> We are a small "software tools" vendor, but the email that I
> just received from one of our mutual customers, about his
> frustration with HP, could be a lot more helpful to you than
> to me.  This is the relevant excerpt:
>
>
> -------------( begin excerpt )-------------
> I use the now-obsolete (as of Nov 99) HP200LX palmtop, with some after
> market additions.  Specifically, a 2x crystal upgrade, and an internal
> 32MB RAM memory upgrade.  It has a standard type II PCMCIA slot, in which
> I use variously a 160MB FLASH disk, an ethernet card, a parallel port
> card (primarily for connection to an Iomega ZIP drive), a modem card,
> and also CF FLASH cards with an adaptor, and a modem interface card for
> my cell phone, and an extra COM port card (it also has a serial port
> built in).  All these cards I mention are standard PCMCIA cards available
> off the shelf.
>
> Needless to say, this is quite a powerful unit.  I runs plain DOS 5.0
> in ROM, and has a pretty large following.  There is a company that still
> sells used units, with warranty, and performs all the various upgrades.
> You can get it with up to 96MB internal RAM, if I recall correctly.
> The HP200 has Lotus 123 built in, as well a Pocket Quicken.  The display
> is a full 80x25 LCD which operates in CGA mode.  I can run any number of
> programs on it, including three C compilers (Borland, Microsoft, and
> PowerC), FORTRAN, pascal.  I run various cross-compilers I use at work
> for generating HEX files for 8051 and PIC microcontrollers.   I can
> also run AutoCAD r10 when necessary.  There are at least three separate
> program for accessing e-mail and newsgroups, telnet, ftp, etc over the
> palmtop.  One of these packages even has a quite capable web browser,
> with limited graphical support.
>
> I don't mean to sound like an advertisement, but as you can tell I'm
> quite enthusiastic about it.  Unfortunately, HP has let this machine
> just die.  Their newer "replacement" palmtops based on WinCE OS are
> terrible when compared to the 200.  I actually bought one about 2
> years ago, and returned it within a month.  The contrast in capability
> was striking, and unacceptable to me.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:46:15 +0200
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, John J Vanderstel wrote:

Ý...¨

> It used to be optional to format a hard drive as 16 bit or 32 bit.  I'm
> not sure if that is an option anymore in newer machines.  The 32 bit FAT
> is what allows long file names.

No. the 32 bit FAT allows larger partitions and smaller cluster sizes. It
has nothing to do with the long filenames. Windows 95 uses additional
(hidden from normal view) directory entries for storing the long filenames
(and calls the system VFAT). Windows 95 will create these directory
entries on any FAT file system. In fact, the first version of Windows 95
didn't have FAT-32 support at all, that was added later.

Using a DOS based file utility under Windows shouldn't be too dangerous,
but it might not be much use either (because it cannot display the long
filenames). If the DOS based utility deletes files, then there can be
problems because it only deletes the main file. This leaves unused hidden
directory entries on the disk that are never deleted. Thankfully, the
Windows version of Scandisk can detect and properly delete these.

(as a side note, one should never use a DOS based disk defragmenter (such
as Norton's Speedisk) under Windows because this will most certainly ruin
the file-system. Windows ususally halts such programs before they modify
anything, though, so you have to be *really* trying to do anything
harmful)

> Besides, reformatting your drive is a rather permanent thing. ;-)  It's
> not what I would consider as a temporary solution.

This won't solve anything, due to the reasons explained above.

> I wouldn't recommend accessing your hard drive with DOS any other way
> than within a DOS window where the 32 bit FAT is active and aware... but
> I would not recommend using a 16 bit utility that operates on the file
> system, either... even from within a DOS window.

The only problem arises when deleting (and renaming) files. Reading files
should pose no problems at all.

> I wish I could be more help, but I wanted to at least warn you of the
> danger of working on newer computers with old DOS utilities that were
> designed to operate on the older 16 bit file systems.

Microsoft went to great lengths to ensure interchangeability with old DOS
disks and programs. I actually think they did a good job, despite the few
problems (which for the most part are not as dangerous as you make them
sound) there are.

I have followed this thread closely, so I am not sure what the original
poster actually wants. However, if it has to do with detecting and/or
removing long filenames from a device that is also used under DOS, then
there is a program called LFNBACK available somewhere on Microsoft's home
page that might be helpful.


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Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:36:33 -0500
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  Laust, you're right on everything but one point.  If someone uses a well
behaved DOS based file utility _under_Windows_ to delete files, then the
utility will be making "delete this file" calls to the underlying operating
system.  Windows will be doing the actual sector manipulation to accomplish
the deleting and there will be no "unused directory entries".

  The only exception to this would be if you're using a DOS
direct-disk-manipulation utility like "Norton Disk Doctor for DOS" where the
utility does the deleting rather than making calls to the underlying
operating system.

  On the other hand, if you take a disk with long filenames to a Dos
machine, and delete some of the long-filename files using DOS, then you will
have some hidden pseudo-file entries from the extended information.

     ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:46 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Directory sort program
>
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>
> Using a DOS based file utility under Windows shouldn't be too
> dangerous, but it might not be much use either (because it
> cannot display the long filenames). If the DOS based utility
> deletes files, then there can be problems because it only
> deletes the main file. This leaves unused hidden directory
> entries on the disk that are never deleted. Thankfully, the
> Windows version of Scandisk can detect and properly delete these.

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Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:04:45 -0400
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Windows 95 can create long filenames on a FAT-16 formatted volume and does
not depend on having FAT-32.  It requires only a structure known as VFAT,
which is supposed to be compatible with the original DOS FAT structures.
I'm absolutely certain of this because I do not use FAT-32 partitions on my
Windows 95 notebook and I make extensive use of long filenames.

The part that messes up earlier operating systems (and vice-versa) is that
in order to create and store those long filenames, Windows 95 uses multiple
directory entries for each file it stores.  When you use some utility that
depends heavily on an intimate understanding (and manipulation) of the FAT
contents of a drive, they don't know about the extra entries in use.

Alan

>From: John J Vanderstel Ýmailto:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨
>Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:06 PM
>...
>The DS.EXE program was made to operate on a disk formatted with a 16 bit
>FAT.  The disks used by your Windows computer are formatted with a 32 bit
>FAT that allows long file names.
>...
>It used to be optional to format a hard drive as 16 bit or 32 bit.  I'm
>not sure if that is an option anymore in newer machines.  The 32 bit FAT
>is what allows long file names.

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Subject: Re: Where to get lotus 123 doc?

Two sources....thaddeus has a 123 book that they sell.  Also KGP productions
has computer shows that they run...that is an excellent source for older out
of print books (pcshows.com)

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Correction:
(pcshow.com)

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Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:02:30 +0200
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Stanley, John L. wrote:

>   Laust, you're right on everything but one point.  If someone uses a well
> behaved DOS based file utility _under_Windows_ to delete files, then the
> utility will be making "delete this file" calls to the underlying operating
> system.  Windows will be doing the actual sector manipulation to accomplish
> the deleting and there will be no "unused directory entries".

Yes of course, I got things a bit confused there. So on a DOS machine or a
Windows machine booted in DOS mode (where none of the VFAT/LFN functions
seem to be available), it will merely delete the main file entry. I guess
that also explains why I've never had Scandisk give me errors about left
over directory entries (since I've only used DOS utils under Windows 95
:-)

>   The only exception to this would be if you're using a DOS
> direct-disk-manipulation utility like "Norton Disk Doctor for DOS" where the
> utility does the deleting rather than making calls to the underlying
> operating system.

Indeed but as I wrote, such utilities won't work unless you put some
effort into it. With Window 95 loaded, I imagine Windows will simply
terminate such programs the moment they try to write to the disk directly
(I never tried). Under DOS (that is, Windows 95 booted into DOS, no GUI,
not a DOS window) the machine will freeze with a message about a program
attempting to access the disk directly - again before any harm is done.
The behaviour is controlled by the LOCK and UNLOCK commands introduced in
Win95. I believe it is LOCK to allow direct access to the drive and UNLOCK
to deny it (default). Oddly enough, that is the opposite of what I would
have deemed logical (I mean if anything, Windows locks the disk from
access, right?), but there you go.

Of course, if you boot a machine using a (real) DOS rescue disk and start
"fixing" the harddrive then you can do some serious damage to your
files...

>   On the other hand, if you take a disk with long filenames to a Dos
> machine, and delete some of the long-filename files using DOS, then
> you will have some hidden pseudo-file entries from the extended
> information.

Yup. Shouldn't do any harm, though? (aside from taking up space)


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Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:23:30 -0400
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Indeed, with the right utilities long filenames can be used from
plain DOS as well. Two utilities I use are LFNSORT (sort win95
long filenames, works from DOS) and IFA (long filename support
for Windows 3.1).

LFNSORT: http://www8.pair.com/dmurdoch/programs/lfnsort.htm
IFA: http://www.alexoft.com/

> Windows 95 can create long filenames on a FAT-16 formatted volume and does
> not depend on having FAT-32.  It requires only a structure known as VFAT,
> which is supposed to be compatible with the original DOS FAT structures.
> I'm absolutely certain of this because I do not use FAT-32 partitions on my
> Windows 95 notebook and I make extensive use of long filenames.
>
> The part that messes up earlier operating systems (and vice-versa) is that
> in order to create and store those long filenames, Windows 95 uses multiple
> directory entries for each file it stores.  When you use some utility that
> depends heavily on an intimate understanding (and manipulation) of the FAT
> contents of a drive, they don't know about the extra entries in use.
>
> Alan
>
> >From: John J Vanderstel Ýmailto:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨
> >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:06 PM
> >...
> >The DS.EXE program was made to operate on a disk formatted with a 16 bit
> >FAT.  The disks used by your Windows computer are formatted with a 32 bit
> >FAT that allows long file names.
> >...
> >It used to be optional to format a hard drive as 16 bit or 32 bit.  I'm
> >not sure if that is an option anymore in newer machines.  The 32 bit FAT
> >is what allows long file names.
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I just saw a segment on ZDTV's The ScreenSavers about the 200lx and Thaddeus
Computing.

Didn't show anything we don't know but it was interesting, maybe get
someone's attention at HP.... ;-)


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Check out:

http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/screensavers/showtell/story/0,3656,10713,00.html


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> I just saw a segment on ZDTV's The ScreenSavers about the 200lx and
Thaddeus
> Computing.
>
> Didn't show anything we don't know but it was interesting, maybe get
> someone's attention at HP.... ;-)
>
>
> -Tim
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Tim Shephard wrote:

> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/screensavers/showtell/story/0,3656,10713,00.html

Ack... the title of the page says 200XL :(

Jeff

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The one thing the HP200LX, like its predecessor the
95LX, will be great for is:
In combination with an IDE HD store copies / pictures
of documents and hide it in safe deposit box, years
later the only thing needed will be a fresh set of batteries.

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Is there a 200LX compatible URL where I may input
Longitude and Latitude and have the map show me where
its located ?

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Question 1
Has anyone tried to get Yahoo mail through POP3
settings as shown on their Help Page ?
Question 2
And probably revisiting this question:
Is it possible to use the WWW/LX 3 with Hotmail ?
NB: And since all the other web based free email
services use either Java-combination or Frame, I will
not ask.

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I recently ventured in the world of Win95 / Win98
Where / which one is the icon for "open with" for the
D/L'ed Zipped files from the
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
archives ?

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Jeff wrote:

>Ack... the title of the page says 200XL :(

That's better than a more common mistake, the LX200, which is a
telescope model.

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Hi Klaus,

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:57:57 -0700, Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE> wrote:

> 1.)
> It's certainly an (very) old question, but I tried the 'search' and the
> lotos-site but without success. And you know, that the doc in the
> hplx200-book isn't one -). Where can I get a lotus-123-doc-file on the
> net?

I remember that I have some docs or tutorials on my Linux machine at
home. I'll look and see if I can dig ssomething up for you. I'll send
it to you by private email if I find something.

I also found a very good manual for Lotus 1-2-3 ou the "Combaer" last
year (for non-Berliners: The Combaer is something like a computer
exhibition here in Berlin. First it was a flea market for private
persons but it went more and more commercial.)
I bought it for 1 DM. I could lend it to you so you can copy parts of
it if you want. I think it is a "Markt und Technik" book.

GTX
daniel

P.S.: Okay,I'm at home now.
what I have here are only 1-2-3 tutorials how to use the macro
language. If that's of any help for you I'll send you a copy.
Otherwise I can only offer the printed manual.


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It probably lacks the detail you want, but the World Time app will
do that on a global scale.

Just start World Time, F2 (add), enter the Location (lat/longitude),
F8 (locate).

Don't rely on this to find your way home tho <g>.

- Longden

On 14 Sep 2000, at 20:02, gat xlph wrote:

> Is there a 200LX compatible URL where I may input
> Longitude and Latitude and have the map show me where
> its located ?

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> Is there a 200LX compatible URL where I may input
> Longitude and Latitude and have the map show me where
> its located ?

It's possible to indirectly get output from www.mapblast.com using HV and
WWW/LX, but it doesn't work to view it on screen. I had to save the image,
then view with LXPIC. Even then the map isn't very legible on the LX
screen for some reason, even in what they call black and white mode. I
found it quite difficult to read the street names if I didn't know them.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:00:39 +0930
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If you buy the PCMCIA converter (Model #MSAC-PC2) for Sony memory sticks,
then you can access the memory sticks on the HP200LX just like any other
flash card.  Even on batteries (don't know what the exact current draw of
the converter is, but it must be low enough if it writes to the card o.k.
when using batteries).

Imagine keeping your PGP secret keyring on a memory stick which is smaller
than a stick of chewing gum!

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Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:29:29 +0200
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This really sounds great!

I using MMC and didn't find a solution yet.

Kind regards

Helmuth

> If you buy the PCMCIA converter (Model #MSAC-PC2) for Sony memory sticks,
> then you can access the memory sticks on the HP200LX just like any other
> flash card.  Even on batteries (don't know what the exact current draw of
> the converter is, but it must be low enough if it writes to the card o.k.
> when using batteries).
>
> Imagine keeping your PGP secret keyring on a memory stick which is smaller
> than a stick of chewing gum!
>
> Rod
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Steve Novosad writes:
> Oliver Chua wrote;
>
> > However, when I popped my flashcard back on my Win95
> > machine, scandisk reported that all the long filenames are screwed up and
> > have to be discarded.
>

Not only that, but I found that when I put my Hp200's 48Mb Sandisk CF card in
my sister's WIN98 laptop...

1. The laptop immediately recognised it and I had full access to it.

2. It created a hidden system "Recycled" directory, with read only files
in it which was really annoying to remove.

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David Becher wrote:

> Test - pnrs mail

Okay, your header says PNR version 3.6bi.  I'm using the most recent
version I know of: 3.2.  What's up with the 3.6?

Ted

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Steve,

> > May I kindly ask you to explain why SC and MAXDOS seem redundant to you,
> > particular in the upper described case?
>
> I see both programs as a way to "freeze" the current program by saving the
> current computer memory to a disk file.  This allows the user to run another
> program with a large amount of system memory available.  Then the user can go
> back to the original program and pick up right where he/she left off.  This is
> often faster and more convienient that closing down the first program to run
> the second, then restarting the first program.

Let me make one or two examples:

Using Post/LX, I receive an email with an Word attachment. Ctrl-M gives
me a choice "Open or Save". I select Open and the Word document opens
right away with VIEW and I can read it.

I do this daily 50 times with no problems, no reboot, no freeze.

Why do you think it is faster or more convenient to save the file,
open another SC session, start VIEW and open the stored file.

****

I like to compose a message, starting again with Post/LX. After I
started using e.g. PE as editor I need to search for a specific
information. I press open and PICK comes in and allows me to search for
the badly needed file. The files opens CUT&PASTE gets the desired
information into the message which I am composing.

Again, why do you think it is faster or more convenient to save the file,
open another SC session, start PE and open the stored file, searching
the information as described above. Get all the information into the
message with CUT&PASTE. Save the message document. Switching back to SC
Post/LX, composing the message and loading the composed message?

> With this case, I believe the person wants to run PGP while doing E-mail with
> Post/LX and PE.  I don't use PGP, but I think he should be able to compose an
> E-mail in PE then save it to Post's temporary file.  Then swap to another SC
> session and run PGP (or a batch file that starts PGP) to sign or encode the
> message.  The swap back to the Post/LX SC session and finish the message.
>
> I worry, perhaps without cause, the Maxdos and SC may both try to swap the same
> portion of memory and result in corruption.  Since I think you can do every
> thing a Maxdos user would want with SC, why risk both?

That is one of the great things, that maxdos gives you a lot of
available memory in EACH SC session within a fraction of a second, just
on keypress. I don't see any redundancy, for me it is a completely
different thing, although both programs do swap.

I use maxdos cascaded, That means starting with the first application I
can launch the second application and from there the third and from
there the fourth application and so on. I have always more than 500KB
of memory available for the next application.

Using maxdos with pns200, gives you always the maximum of memory for
the selected application.

Kind regards

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> Your proposal to use the temporary file created by POST/LX and operate
> with PGP on it would work but is cumbersome. Why go the difficult route
> if it can be done a much simpler way.

To me, it seems more difficult and complex to set up and use both SC and =
Maxdos
than to use just one of them.  Since I have not used Maxdos, I am probably=
 not
the best to judge.  All I can provide is my opinion.  You probably have a
better understanding of the situation.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> result of QFAX. Unfortunately 2FAX seems to have problems with my
> signature PCX file: On the right side there is always a black bar.
> Looks like this:

> Daniel Hertrich|

Daniel,

I have seen this problem in two situations.

One is that the data structure for a line of pixels in a
*.PCX file are padded to word size.  In a 256 color file
this means that if a picture has a horizontal size that is
odd, an extra byte is stored.  In 16 color files there can
be zero, one two, or three extra pixels appended.  These
pixels can be zeroed out, which normally is black.  Pull
your signature PCX in a program (such as LXPIC) that can
tell you the color depth and size.  ensure that if it has
256 colors/greyscales that its horizontal dimension is even.
Sixteen color deep pictures should have a horizontal pixel
count divisable by four.  And monochrome might require a
count divisable by sixteen.  This padding causes problems
in file conversions in PCX, BMP, TIFF, and some others.
Some "cheesy" software displays the zeroed out bytes and
that shows up as a black bar.

The second was, when scanning a file, a black pixel was
appended on one or more edges of the picture.  A glitch
in the scanning software or a disagreement between the
scanner, the Windoze clipboard, and the graphics program.
Fairly obvious except when I wasn't looking for it.

HTH

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From: Curtis Cameron Ýmailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET¨

<<That's better than a more common mistake, the LX200, which is a
telescope model.>>

In Jim Lourderback's article, he complained about lack of Outlook sync.
I'll send him URL to your software!

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> I just saw a segment on ZDTV's The ScreenSavers about the 200lx and
Thaddeus
> Computing.
>

If anyone happens to tape it (usually they keep rerunning the same story for
a while), I'd really appreciate a copy to show our staff!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Becher" <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
> > > However, when I popped my flashcard back on my Win95
> > > machine, scandisk reported that all the long filenames are screwed up
and
> > > have to be discarded.


Where you are using the card in the HP200lx (dos based) why are you using
long file names?  Win95 will use long file names but DOS 5 on the HP200lx
will not.

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BTW, in my post about HP's CEO, I forgot to mention the software
configuration control software that I can now use on my palmtop.
It is TLIB, by Burton Systems Software.  I have no interest in
the company, just a satisfied customer.  I have turned to their product
over the past 5+ years, when I had need of version control.

Also, if anyone wants, I once downloaded a DOS version of RCS, that
would presumably run on the palmtop as well (though I never actually
used it).  If anyone wants, I can try to find this link and/or file.

Just one more type of software tool that will run on your handy
palmtop.

-Chris Lott



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> In regards to the latter, DS.exe was useful in the days
> preceding robust file management programs like Xtree
> and our own File Manager which already sorts the
> display for you.  What is the impetus for doing so now?

I don't use a file manager on my palmtop.  Keeping it sorted with DS
is a much cleaner solution since that's about the only feature of a
file manager I care about.

I do have some doskey macros set up so that I can type DF and get a
listing of files in name order or DD and get a listing of
directories.  But I'd rather just type DIR (I don't want to forget
that word :) to get a full listing and then I'd like it to be
sorted.

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> It used to be optional to format a hard drive as 16 bit
>  or 32 bit.  I'm not sure if that is an option anymore in
> newer machines.  The 32 bit FAT is what allows long
> file names.

16 or 32 bit fat is an choice you can make through Win98.  I don't
know about Windows ME or any version of NT.

Either 16 or 32 bit fat allows long filenames. They're not a natural
feature in 16 bit fat systems and Windows has to play games to do
it, but it does it.

Switching from 16 bit to 32 bit fat and back is fairly simple with
Partition Magic.  It's quick and safe and works very well.

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I was just noting that I had one take on the message when I first read
it and assumed the author was male and a totally different take when I
saw the message that the author was female.

I, of all people, should not have such dual responses.

Beverly Howard (No, no change in name or gender since birth)

Russel Brooks wrote:

>
> Beverly Howard wrote:
> > >> She <<
> >
> > Isn't it amazing how a change in gender impacts your vision of the
> > writer, and more importantly, the writing.
> >
> >  Beverly Howard (one who should not be surprised)
> >
> > http://www.BevHoward.com
> >
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> Ok, I'm a little confused.  You changed your gender?  That's not too
> rare so I went to the web site only to find "Beverly" with a beard.
>
> Which way is up?
>
> Cheers... Russ

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> Indeed but as I wrote, such utilities won't work unless
> you put some effort into it. With Window 95 loaded,
> I imagine Windows will simply terminate such programs
> the moment they try to write to the disk directly

DS.EXE won't run in a dos window.  When you run it, Windows tells
you it needs MS-DOS mode and asks if you want to go into MS-DOS mode
or cancel.

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> I do have some doskey macros set up so that I can type DF and get a
> listing of files in name order or DD and get a listing of
> directories.  But I'd rather just type DIR (I don't want to forget
> that word :) to get a full listing and then I'd like it to be
> sorted.

Barry:

Just a reminder, don't forget about the DIRCMD variable that I believe
was first introduced in DOS 5.0.  For example, I have my DIRCMD variable
set to "/ogn" in my autoexec.bat file.  Whenever I perform the DIR
command, the listing is automatically sorted.  Your choice of the
default DIRCMD value may be any standard DIR option(s) that you prefer.
You can review this option with the DIR /? command; a brief explanation
of the DIRCMD environment variable is at the end of the help screen.

Perhaps this will serve your needs?

I've been using it for years.

-Chris Lott


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> The one thing the HP200LX, like its predecessor the
> 95LX, will be great for is:
> In combination with an IDE HD store copies / pictures
> of documents and hide it in safe deposit box, years
> later the only thing needed will be a fresh set of batteries.

Don't wait too many years or you won't have anything to view the
pictures with, except the 200lx.  Technology moves too fast.

I saw a documentary about a concern that historians and archivists
have that we're losing out history, unlike past eras.  While we keep
more information than at any time in the past, the devices needed to
read it keep changing.  In 100 years how likely do you think it is
we'll be able to read what we're putting on disk today?  Sure, there
will be a few collectors around that have ancient PC's and might let
you use them for a very high charge, but what about information
that's stored on flash cards?  How many PC's can read flash cards?
How many 200lx's will survive that long?

With most media, the media itself isn't likely to survive that long
and I doubt that many institutions will be interested in
transferring huge archives to new media from time to time.

A lot of historians fear that in a few centuries less may be known
about our time than earlier times.

Barry

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The cleaner solution comes at some risk since you're re-writing your data.

And any re-writing of the FAT has got to entail risk to more files than normal
when considering that an accident may interrupt the operation (dropped LX, power
goes out, accidental reboot ...etc).

Plus, the sorted directory is only good till the next time you add a new file.

I'm not sure what the original poster's reason for needing DS was, but I know
that LXPIC displays images in directory order, and having DS to sort the file
entries sometimes makes the LXPIC viewing a bit more predictable, but that's
about the only reason I ever run the command myself.

- Longden





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> In regards to the latter, DS.exe was useful in the days
> preceding robust file management programs like Xtree
> and our own File Manager which already sorts the
> display for you.  What is the impetus for doing so now?

I don't use a file manager on my palmtop.  Keeping it sorted with DS
is a much cleaner solution since that's about the only feature of a
file manager I care about.

I do have some doskey macros set up so that I can type DF and get a
listing of files in name order or DD and get a listing of
directories.  But I'd rather just type DIR (I don't want to forget
that word :) to get a full listing and then I'd like it to be
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I dont know. But You could use lxgps (on SUPER) with a map over the
area You are interested in.
In my HP I have lxgps with several maps. The world, Sweden, Stockholm, =
Down town
stockholm. With lxgps You then can zoom in and out by switching between
the different maps by pressing + or -.

gat xlph wrote:
> Is there a 200LX compatible URL where I may input
> Longitude and Latitude and have the map show me where
> its located ?
>
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>
>
> Date:    Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:02:30 +0200
> From:    Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
> Subject: Re: Directory sort program
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Stanley, John L. wrote:
>
> >   Laust, you're right on everything but one point.  If someone uses a
well
> > behaved DOS based file utility _under_Windows_ to delete files, then
the
> > utility will be making "delete this file" calls to the underlying
operating
> > system.  Windows will be doing the actual sector manipulation to
accomplish
> > the deleting and there will be no "unused directory entries".
>
> Yes of course, I got things a bit confused there. So on a DOS machine
or a
> Windows machine booted in DOS mode (where none of the VFAT/LFN
functions
> seem to be available), it will merely delete the main file entry. I
guess
> that also explains why I've never had Scandisk give me errors about
left
> over directory entries (since I've only used DOS utils under Windows 95
> :-)
LFN info is available under DOS 7.x/Win9x. MS added a bunch of INT21H
functions (in 16-bit code, so they could also be installed under earlier
OSes) for dealing with Win9x directory entries. For instance, try DIR /V
(verbose mode) in Win9x boot to command prompt. You'll get all the date
info, at least.

For more on this whole topic, see Adrian King's _Inside Windows 95_, MS
Press, 1994 (and, I think, subsequent editions).

>
> >   The only exception to this would be if you're using a DOS
> > direct-disk-manipulation utility like "Norton Disk Doctor for DOS"
where the
> > utility does the deleting rather than making calls to the underlying
> > operating system.
>
> Indeed but as I wrote, such utilities won't work unless you put some
> effort into it. With Window 95 loaded, I imagine Windows will simply
> terminate such programs the moment they try to write to the disk
directly
> (I never tried). Under DOS (that is, Windows 95 booted into DOS, no
GUI,
> not a DOS window) the machine will freeze with a message about a
program
> attempting to access the disk directly - again before any harm is done.
> The behaviour is controlled by the LOCK and UNLOCK commands introduced
in
> Win95. I believe it is LOCK to allow direct access to the drive and
UNLOCK
> to deny it (default). Oddly enough, that is the opposite of what I
would
> have deemed logical (I mean if anything, Windows locks the disk from
> access, right?), but there you go.

No, what this call is doing is *granting your program* exclusive access
(locking out all other apps) - so it makes perfect sense. This is the
same as a database record lock. I lock you out while I'm modifying the
record. The full name is "exclusive volume lock" (INT21H Function 440D
major code 08 in DOS mode)
>
> Of course, if you boot a machine using a (real) DOS rescue disk and
start
> "fixing" the harddrive then you can do some serious damage to your
> files...
>
*AMEN BROTHER!!!!!*

> >   On the other hand, if you take a disk with long filenames to a Dos
> > machine, and delete some of the long-filename files using DOS, then
> > you will have some hidden pseudo-file entries from the extended
> > information.
>
> Yup. Shouldn't do any harm, though? (aside from taking up space)
>
And then only if you exceed the (fixed) number of entries in a directory
segment. Unless, of course, you reach the (fixed) limit for directory
entries in your root directory. Once you hit that limit, it doesn't
matter how much free space you have; you can't create another file in
that directory. I think it'll be corrected the next time you move the
media back to W9x, but I don't remember for sure.

Jon

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From:                   gat xlph <tag_hplx@YAHOO.COM>

> The one thing the HP200LX, like its predecessor the
> 95LX, will be great for is:
> In combination with an IDE HD store copies / pictures
> of documents and hide it in safe deposit box, years
> later the only thing needed will be a fresh set of batteries.
How do you connect an IDE-HD to the HP200 ?

So long,

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>>The behaviour is controlled by the LOCK and UNLOCK commands introduced in
>>Win95. I believe it is LOCK to allow direct access to the drive and UNLOCK
>>to deny it (default). Oddly enough, that is the opposite of what I would
>>have deemed logical (I mean if anything, Windows locks the disk from
>>access, right?), but there you go.

LOCK means your process has LOCKED the hard drive and no other process can
use it, this command lets you use the undelete command from dos 6.22 safely
if you have discarded something you want back from the recycle bin.

LOCK
run undelete
UNLOCK

as with anything that has to do with windows use this trick at your own risk

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gat xlph wrote:
>
> Question 1
> Has anyone tried to get Yahoo mail through POP3
> settings as shown on their Help Page ?

I do it every day with the 200LX with DOSPPP and LXTCP.

Regards,
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Yep and nope...

> Question 1
> Has anyone tried to get Yahoo mail through POP3
> settings as shown on their Help Page ?

YES.  I used to use it regularly with Post/LX.  However, I now use the
mail forwarding option.  My Yahoo mail is delivered to my main Earthlink
account now.  I've been pleased with it in the 1+ years I've had the
account now, and can count on one hand the number of times I've
recieved advertisments from Yahoo regarding "special offers".  I've
seen it mentioned on this list in the past that Yahoo bombards the user
with SPAM... not so in my case.

> Question 2
> And probably revisiting this question:
> Is it possible to use the WWW/LX 3 with Hotmail ?
> NB: And since all the other web based free email
> services use either Java-combination or Frame, I will
> not ask.

NO... you are right.  I'm not sure if hotmail offers mail forwarding?

Hope this helps...

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Hi friends,

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:36:33 -0500, "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM> wrote:

>   On the other hand, if you take a disk with long filenames to a Dos
> machine, and delete some of the long-filename files using DOS, then you will
> have some hidden pseudo-file entries from the extended information.

Ah, this might be the reason for my problem:
Everytime I run Scandisk (this on from Win95) on my palmtop to scan the
CF card, it reports a "long filename problem that cannot be solved here
- run the windows version of scnadisk!".
I wondered what problem this could be. But now you made me think that I
could have deleted a file with the palmtop that I put on the CF card
with Windows before...

Maybe I should really run the  Windows Scandisk over the card..

GTX
daniel

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gat xlph wrote:
> Question 1
> Has anyone tried to get Yahoo mail through POP3
> settings as shown on their Help Page ?
> Question 2
> And probably revisiting this question:
> Is it possible to use the WWW/LX 3 with Hotmail ?
> NB: And since all the other web based free email
> services use either Java-combination or Frame, I will
> not ask.

Try http://www.gmx.net

It is a free web based email service that also provides POP access.

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I believe Yahoo EMail uses Javascript but also multiple
cookies. HV (the screen painter portion in WWW/LX) supports
one cookie. It also does not interpret javascript at all.

I don't know about Hotmail.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

gat xlph wrote:
> Question 1
> Has anyone tried to get Yahoo mail through POP3
> settings as shown on their Help Page ?
> Question 2
> And probably revisiting this question:
> Is it possible to use the WWW/LX 3 with Hotmail ?
> NB: And since all the other web based free email
> services use either Java-combination or Frame, I will
> not ask.
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:04:10 -0500,Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

<snip>
=20
> With most media, the media itself isn't likely to survive that long
> and I doubt that many institutions will be interested in
> transferring huge archives to new media from time to time.
>=20
> A lot of historians fear that in a few centuries less may be known
> about our time than earlier times.
>=20
> Barry

Exactly the same story applies to the tv broadcast trade.

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Hi!

I still have 5 connectivity kits for the 200LX for sale. E-mail me privately if
interested!

Thanks,

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Hi Laust,

Thanks for correcting me on the long filename part.  I don't know what I
was thinking as I too have used long filenames on a Win95 machine with a
hard drive formatted for 16 bit file system.

>(as a side note, one should never use a DOS based disk defragmenter
(such
>as Norton's Speedisk) under Windows because this will most certainly
ruin
>the file-system. Windows ususally halts such programs before they modify
>anything, though, so you have to be *really* trying to do anything
>harmful)

Your use of "usually" above again confirms my expressed concern.  I've
been there and have personally suffered the damage, Laust.
.
.
.
>The only problem arises when deleting (and renaming) files. Reading
files
>should pose no problems at all.
.
.
.
>I have followed this thread closely, so I am not sure what the original
>poster actually wants...

That is probably why you are down playing the danger.

The original poster was enquiring about an old DOS utility that actually
re-sorted (moved around) the files and directories on a disk itself.
That sounded too much like old utilities like the Norton DOS utilities
that worked down at the file system level on 16 bit file systems...
extremely dangerous when used on a 32 bit file system.  I was attempting
to warn the original poster about that danger.

I've done real damage to an old Win95 computer's file system by using old
DOS utilities like that, so I know from experience that Windows 95 does
not ALWAYS stop the action and save the day.  The damage can go
undetected and grow without the users knowledge.

The mode where one shuts down a Win95 computer to pure DOS has a
nickname. it's also known as "Danger Mode".  As others have mentioned,
that mode is completely 32 bit unaware.  It will work with a 32 bit file
system as though it were actually a 16 bit file system.

Yes.  There are programs out there can fix the problems caused by
operating in this way.  But they can only save the day if used BEFORE the
file system becomes too corrupted to run that software.

>From one who has been there, please heed the warning.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, if you would like to read more about this very real danger, check
out some old issues of "DOS World" which has changed their name within
the past year to "Practical Windows".  They have always specialized in
information about working with DOS on Windows computers and they do offer
some old issues for a price.

If anyone is truly interested I'd be happy to look up which specific
issue covered the above subject.

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Rod, have you tried this?  It sounds better than great!  I could use it to
download pix to my HP600 (the external floppy bit long ago), and to store
programs for my 200!


>From: "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
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>Subject: Re: FYI: Sony Memory stick works in HP200LX
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:29:29 +0200
>
>This really sounds great!
>
>I using MMC and didn't find a solution yet.
>
>Kind regards
>
>Helmuth
>
> > If you buy the PCMCIA converter (Model #MSAC-PC2) for Sony memory
>sticks,
> > then you can access the memory sticks on the HP200LX just like any other
> > flash card.  Even on batteries (don't know what the exact current draw
>of
> > the converter is, but it must be low enough if it writes to the card
>o.k.
> > when using batteries).
> >
> > Imagine keeping your PGP secret keyring on a memory stick which is
>smaller
> > than a stick of chewing gum!
> >
> > Rod
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I use Norton 8.0 DS.Exe (Others've commented on this.)

Alternately, if you put the command:

Set DirCmd=/o:gne

in autoexec.bat and reboot (or type it in each session <G>), then while
all directories won't be physically *sorted*, Dir will display them in
alphabetically sorted order, with the directories at the top (/o:g),
then by name and file extension (/o:ne), and it's already part of the
Dos inside your 200LX.  (I think it's standard in all Dos 5.0+ versions,
know it works for Dos 6.22, I'm pretty sure it works in a Windows 95 Dos
Box as well.)  I've used this for quite a while as I can find my files
easier this way <G>

As it's display-only, no risk of mangling a Win95 LFN etc.

  Mark

Oliver Chua wrote:
> Could someone recommend to me a program that could sort alphabetically a
> dos directory?
>
> I've used long time ago a 16bit program called sort.exe from Norton
> Utilities but when I tried to sort the directory on my compact flash card,
> the entries came out alternately with garbage files.  I could be mistaken
> here but I assume that is caused by the 32-bit formatting of the CF card or
> the way my win95 machine transfers files.
>
> I believe I've tried also the command line sort command of DIR but the
> result is only applied to the output screen results.  The directory order
> themselves are not changed.
>
> Kindly copy furnish me via private email any replies.  I get the list in
> digest form and am a few weeks late.  Many thanks in advance.
>
> Oliver Chua
> bud@mindgate.net

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              palmtops?
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I have these on hand, can send them if you e-mail me (Don't want to send
you duplicates!)  Please ask for the filename(s) you want...

nt1112.zip      474416 bytes
nt111-pt.zip    469049 bytes
nt1101pt.zip    465741 bytes
nt110-pt.zip    465432 bytes
n108-pt.zip     428222 bytes

(Also have the xt and 386 versions to match etc.  File Servers are SO
nice <G>)

  Mark

John J Vanderstel wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've discovered a problem that I suspect to be a newly introduced bug in
> latest version of Nettamer for palmtops.  Since that problem is
> preventing me from evaluating Nettamer's worthiness of registration, I
> haven't yet registered Nettamer and therefore don't have the author's
> undivided attention... especially since he has just recently gotten out
> the hospital after a lengthy stay for an operation.
>
> Al Kind was kind enough to give me an old version of Nettamer for
> palmtops a while back to compare, but the version he gave me was too old
> to function properly any more.
>
> It seems that some of Al Kind's email is disappearing again since I
> haven't gotten a response from my him lately, so I'm still looking for
> the last obsolete release of Nettamer for palmtops.
>
> The newest release of Nettamer for palmtops that I've discovered the
> problem in is
> n1112pt.zip.  If you have the release before that, please attach that zip
> file to an email to jvander800@aol.com. ( That email account can handle
> file attachments much easier.)
> By comparing the two versions, I should be able to determine if the
> problem is indeed a newly introduced bug that would require priority
> attention by the author of Net tamer.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:30:58 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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 >If anyone happens to tape it (usually they keep rerunning the same story for
 >a while), I'd really appreciate a copy to show our staff!

Hal,

On the site at
http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/screensavers/showtell/story/0,3656,10713,00.html ,
there is a 'play video' icon.

Any chance of getting permission to put a copy of the article, as well as
the recent Fresh Gear commentary, on your Thaddeus site ?   I do not know
how long they keep articles on the 'News' sites.

ps.  They have corrected 200XL to 200LX in the heading, but the word
Ressurect should be spelt Resurrect.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:48:00 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX
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> > Is there a 200LX compatible URL where I may input
> > Longitude and Latitude and have the map show me where
> > its located ?
>
> It's possible to indirectly get output from www.mapblast.com using HV and
> WWW/LX, but it doesn't work to view it on screen. I had to save the image,
> then view with LXPIC. Even then the map isn't very legible on the LX
> screen for some reason, even in what they call black and white mode. I
> found it quite difficult to read the street names if I didn't know them.

I whipped up a web front end to MapBlast that will work with HV on the
200LX, or your desktop. It doesn't display properly in HV, but if you save
the image, you can use LXPIC to view it. Unfortuneately, like I said, it
still won't display clearly on the LX. Any suggestions on how to make it
clearer, or make it display properly in HV?

If you'd like to try it, it's at:

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html


Cheers,
Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:21:30 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
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Comments: To: Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>

Theodore Heise writes:
> Okay, your header says PNR version 3.6bi.  I'm using the most recent
> version I know of: 3.2.  What's up with the 3.6?
>

The latest version on Rod Whitby's page is 3.5. I am in the process of
modifying that to produce version 3.6 BETA release 1. I wrote to Rod today,
asking him if he will still provide a "home" site for LXTCP even though he is
no longer maintaining it. According to his answer I will distribute version
3.6 Beta....

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Home: davidb@netmedia.net.il   Work: davidb@cimatron.co.il
      +972 3 5747193                 +972 3 5312136
                                     www.cimatron.co.il
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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:34:31 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Steve,

> > Your proposal to use the temporary file created by POST/LX and operate
> > with PGP on it would work but is cumbersome. Why go the difficult route
> > if it can be done a much simpler way.
>
> To me, it seems more difficult and complex to set up and use both SC and Maxdos
> than to use just one of them.  Since I have not used Maxdos, I am probably not
> the best to judge.  All I can provide is my opinion.  You probably have a
> better understanding of the situation.

Knowing that you are a "strong" user of the LX I strongly recommend to
investigate maxdos - really.

1) Install "enough" EMS with TREMM or some such. Unload the driver for an EXP
PCMCIA card though.

2) Call your program in the individual SC session with a batch file
e.g. :
  c:
  c:\path\maxdos.com -l -e
  c:\path\program.exe
  c:\path\maxdos.com -r

Thats it. As Helmuth explained you can nest maxdos and program calls. I
do it the same way.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:03:36 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 200lx on The ScreenSavers
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> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/screensavers/showtell/story/0,3656,10713,00.htm=
l

Cool.  I am going to Email Jim Louderback (jim@techtv.com) to
say hello to a fellow palmtopper and thank him for the good PR
for the 200LX.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:03:32 -0400
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From: Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET> wrote:

> I believe the person wants to run PGP while doing E-mail with
> Post/LX and PE.  I don't use PGP, but I think he should be able to =
compose an
> E-mail in PE then save it to Post's temporary file.  Then swap to =
another SC
> session and run PGP (or a batch file that starts PGP) to sign or encode =
the
> message.  The swap back to the Post/LX SC session and finish the =
message

You are certainly right, Steve, that it could be done this way.
  But it would require terminating PE switching SC sessions,
 running the PGP stuff, switching SC back and then restarting
 PE.

One of the great features of PE is that it can launch other
programs feeding a file to them and then receiveing the
modified file back.  All this can happen while still in PE. But
PGP is to big to run under PE in a SC session.  This is where
MaxDOS comes in.  MaxDOS stub is loaded before PE and then PE
launches a PGP be telling MaxDOS to run it.  MaxDOS removes all
of PE from memory therefore giving enough space to PGP to work.
 When PGP is done, MaxDOS returns PE to memory, PE picks up the
file modified by PGP and it is all done.

This is a lot cooler than just switching SC sessions back and
forth. <grin>


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 16:03:24 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX
Comments: To: Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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Mike Kopplin wrote:

> I whipped up a web front end to MapBlast...
>
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

very nice job! Yet another incredible useful application for
those on the road. Any chance to get the maps with 640 pixel
width instead of only 600?

The unreadable street names originate in the terrible
"interlaced" GIF format, which MapBlast uses and which
LXPIC cannot display properly.

What would you think of a new text format, where the text is
stored that way: first every 8th word, then every 4th word,
then every 2nd word and finally the remaining words of what you
have written.

Display of such a text first offers you every 8th word of the
text just to give you an idea of the whole text. Then the gaps
are filled with every 4th word and so on...

I'm sure, everybody would go for this new text format ;-)
Surprising enough, more and more images on the net use this
Interlaced GIF (or progressive JPEG) format. I don't know which
school teaches this nonsense.

Just think for one moment about how to program such a word
processor compared to the line by line approach, which is by
the way, how we write.

The new format forces you to keep the wohle text in memory and
to jump wild around to collect the words from all over the text.

It's slow and memory hungry. That's why interlaced GIF and
progressive JPEG is not completely supported by LXPIC.

I process interlaced GIFs by starting output at the offset,
where the remaining lines of the GIF image are stored. These
are 50% of all lines. I zoom the remaining lines vertically
by factor 2 to simulate the whole image. But in fact, only
every second line is displayed.

A user of LXPIC pointed me to utilities, which can convert an
interlaced GIF to a standard GIF. It's indirect by first
converting to BMP and then back to GIF, but it works even on
the palmtop. I uploaded the converters to my homepage and wrote
a batch file to do the convertion. I also added a convertion to
b&w PCX, because it's the fastest display format. If you named
your MapBlast file for example NY.GIF, then call the batch file
GIF.BAT with the name of the picture without the GIF extension:

GIF NY

this will convert the interlaced NY.GIF to the standard NY.GIF
and will also output a NY.PCX

Download the utilities from

http://peichl.hplx.net/gif.zip

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:34:45 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
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One easy, 32-bit-safe, way to sort directory listings is to use the
commands available with the MSDOS DIR command. To see them all, type:
DIR /?

You can place a SET DIRCMD= command in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file and it
will use those switches every time you use the DIR command. Like this:
SET DIRCMD=/OGNE /P Whenever I use the DIR command, the listing will be
sorted with directories first, then by name and extension, and it will
automatically pause at each 'page' of the listing. You can also override
the switches you set in DIRCMD on the command line.

This is a bit easier, cleaner and safer than using Norton's DS, but gets
similar results.

Regards,
Richard Smith
aka Seronac

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:53:18 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Subject:      PCMCIA Disks,Processor, Hard disks and Memory are Available.
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

(2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

I have (1) Pentium III 600MHZ Slot (1) processor  for $120.00 plus $5.00
shipping and packaging.

I also have  (1) 256K PC100 Dimm  in excellent condition for $145.00
plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:53:29 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX
Comments: To: Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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Mike Kopplin wrote:

> I whipped up a web front end to MapBlast...
>
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

after playing around with this fantastic new application
I wonder if it's possible to also provide an input mask
for country/city/street input?

MapBlast offers it under it's "portable" link, but I'd
prefer your technology with 640x200 output!

Imagine you could just enter a worldwide address and get
a citymap within seconds on your palmtop with this address
marked!

This would add another dimension to the palmtop as a portable
worldwide cityguide:

Palmtop & mobile phone with IR modem = citymaps everywhere

Thank you for making this service palmtop friendly.

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:11:25 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX
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> > I whipped up a web front end to MapBlast...
> >
> > http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html
>
> very nice job! Yet another incredible useful application for
> those on the road. Any chance to get the maps with 640 pixel
> width instead of only 600?

Thanks. I've changed the size to 640*200. This could be user selectable
with a few changes. The zoom levels could also have finer gradations.

> this will convert the interlaced NY.GIF to the standard NY.GIF
> and will also output a NY.PCX
>
> Download the utilities from
>
> http://peichl.hplx.net/gif.zip

Ah, they look much better now :) Do you know any standard command line
unix tools to do the same?

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:48:43 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Mike Kopplin wrote:
> > I whipped up a web front end to MapBlast...
> >
> > http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html
>
> after playing around with this fantastic new application
> I wonder if it's possible to also provide an input mask
> for country/city/street input?

Do you know any free sites that do Address to Lat/Lon coordinates? This
would make it much simpler.  Mapblast does this internally to display the
maps, so I don't think this could be accessed directly.

What I think would have to be done is my server would make the request to
mapblast, then the returned page would be simplified, and this page sent
to the client computer. Doing this would also allow the map gif to be
deinterlaced before being sent, so the palmtop user could see it directly
in HV without using your gif tools.

This might also bring up legal issues though. I'm not 100% sure what I'm
doing now is ok. From reading their terms of use, I interpret them to mean
I can display any maps generated by MapBlast as long as I include a link
to them, display their logo, and its for non-commercial use. My
interpretation may not be the same as theirs. They may argue that my
accessing their server indirectly is not acceptable.

> Imagine you could just enter a worldwide address and get
> a citymap within seconds on your palmtop with this address
> marked!

:)

Mike

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:08:24 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX
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> call the batch file GIF.BAT with the name of the picture
> without the GIF extension:
>
> GIF NY
>
> this will convert the interlaced NY.GIF to the standard NY.GIF
> and will also output a NY.PCX

I forgot to mention, that you may also use wildcards to convert
more than one GIF. If you downloaded New York in different zoom
modes and named the files NY1.GIF ... NY4.GIF, then you may say

GIF NY?
 or
GIF NY*
 or
GIF *

to do the conversions. Be careful with the last command,
because this would delete all BMP and PCX files in your
directory. Hence I recommend the other 2 methods.

If anybody knows of better (faster) programs to do the
conversions, please let me know.

Best would be indeed, if MapBlast could be forced to output
standard GIF.

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:12:13 -0400
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM> wrote:
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>I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.

Does this guy ever contribute anything to this list other than advertisements?

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:03:30 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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>1) What is the Win95 app that is saving the file to the CF card?

Eudora Pro V3.0 32bit version

>2) Why do you want to sort the directory?

I pop the CF card in the win95 computer which has the internet connection.
Get mail (more specifically HPLX mailing list in digest form) thru Eudora.
Save the mailing list to the CF card.  Read the list in 200LX whenever I
get the chance.  Whenever I pick a file to open in HV, it lists them in the
order DOS saves it.  It seems DOS saves the files in random order and not
in FIFO order.  This specifically happens when I still have list files in
the CF card and I would like to update and add more.  Instead of finding
them being added at the end of the directory list, they are added randomly.
 Not a big problem but it would be a convenience if I could see them in a
directory list already sorted rather than looking for the oldest file to
read first.

Oliver Chua
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Is it me or thats the way its supposed to work ?
All I see is a cross-hair in the middle of my screen
with the Mapblast logo

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05m51s ago ...
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:50:28 -0700, gat xlph wrote:

> Is it me or thats the way its supposed to work ?
> All I see is a cross-hair in the middle of my screen
> with the Mapblast logo

That's what I got too trying to find Wellington!

Maybe Mapblast doesn't cover the whole globe?

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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:50:28 -0700, gat xlph wrote:
>
> > Is it me or thats the way its supposed to work ?
> > All I see is a cross-hair in the middle of my screen
> > with the Mapblast logo
>
> That's what I got too trying to find Wellington!
>
> Maybe Mapblast doesn't cover the whole globe?

If you just get a cross hair, it means you're probably in the middle of
nothing. Make sure you are entering the lat/lon in decimal degree format.

I don't know about the whole globe, but it does cover the UK. I'm not sure
which Wellington you mean, but for the one in Somerset try entering
latitude 50.97882 and longitude -3.22725.

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01h50m01s ago ...
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:07:43 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> If you just get a cross hair, it means you're probably in the middle of
> nothing. Make sure you are entering the lat/lon in decimal degree =
format.
>
> I don't know about the whole globe, but it does cover the UK. I'm not =
sure
> which Wellington you mean, but for the one in Somerset try entering
> latitude 50.97882 and longitude -3.22725.

Thanks Mike! I was entering longitude as per the 200LX WorldTime - if I
change the sign I am no longer in the middle of nothing :)

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> It's certainly an (very) old question, but I tried the 'search'
and the
> lotos-site but without success. And you know, that the doc in the
> hplx200-book isn't one -). Where can I get a lotus-123-doc-file on
the
> net?

I have the 123 Release 2 Norton Guide help file.  I haven't used it
but I do know that the Norton Guides in general were excellent.  I
don't think this will work from within the App Manager, but it will
work just fine on the 200lx in normal DOS.  That makes it less handy
than it might be otherwise.

A Norton Guide clone reader can be found on Simtelnet, although I'm
not going to be very shy about sharing NG itself.  They haven't
published this in years and, while it's technically illegal, I don't
really care and I doubt if Peter Norton does either.

The problem is the help file is 847k and I don't want to email a
bunch of copies of that.  Does anyone have a site I can upload it to
where others can download it?

If my carefree attitude about sharing this is offensive to anyone,
please say so (politely, I hope) and I'll refrain from further
discussion of this on this list.

Avi, you're the exception.  I'll understand if you blow your top!
:)

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> Just a reminder, don't forget about the DIRCMD
> variable that I believe was first introduced in DOS 5.0.

Thanks.  Actually I did forget about DIRCMD.  I guess I've been
using DS so long I never got in the habit of using it.

Barry

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> The cleaner solution comes at some risk since
> you're re-writing your data.

That's true.  But in all the years I've used it I've never had a
problem.  Old habits are hard to break.

But I guess I probably shouldn't reccomend this as a good solution
when there are other, better solutions.

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All I get is a test pattern...

> On the site at
> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/screensavers/showtell/story/0,3656,10
713,00.html ,
there is a 'play video' icon.

Any chance of getting permission to put a copy of the article, as well as
the recent Fresh Gear commentary, on your Thaddeus site ?   I do not know
how long they keep articles on the 'News' sites.

ps.  They have corrected 200XL to 200LX in the heading, but the word
Ressurect should be spelt Resurrect.

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Does anyone know if there is a version of OL2LX newer than 2.15?

Jim

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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:11:25 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:

>Thanks. I've changed the size to 640*200. This could be user selectable
>with a few changes. The zoom levels could also have finer gradations.

Would it be very difficult to add a choice of image sizes?  This would be=
 a
good way to obtain maps for use with LXGPS, without having to manually
convert to monochrome. The largest size available in the MapBlast
customisation screen, 720x640, is pretty reasonable for sensible =
coverage,
although something like 1024x768 would be even better.

--=20
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> >1) What is the Win95 app that is saving the file to the CF card?
>
> Eudora Pro V3.0 32bit version

So you suspect that this is perhaps wreaking some havoc on your
CF card?  I could see where something like Eudora may attempt to
create scratch files or perhaps a Recycle bin of some sort on its
own.  Perhaps you should consider saving the file to the Win95
system's own disk, then when done with Eudora, DOS copy the file
to the CF card afterwards.  This would afford fewer opportunities for
unrequested file services on the card.

> >2) Why do you want to sort the directory?
>
> I pop the CF card in the win95 computer which has the internet
> connection. Get mail (more specifically HPLX mailing list in digest
> form) thru Eudora. Save the mailing list to the CF card.  Read the
> list in 200LX whenever I get the chance.  Whenever I pick a file to
> open in HV, it lists them in the order DOS saves it.  It seems DOS
> saves the files in random order and not in FIFO order.  This
> specifically happens when I still have list files in the CF card and I
> would like to update and add more.  Instead of finding them being
> added at the end of the directory list, they are added randomly.
>  Not a big problem but it would be a convenience if I could see them
>  in a
> directory list already sorted rather than looking for the oldest file
> to read first.

Then your file order problem is somewhat the same as mine when
using LXPIC (as I mentioned earlier) .... LXPIC also displays file
images in "directory order".  Actually, DOS does save the files in
FIFO order originally (on a pristine FAT), but over time as files get
deleted, "slots" get opened in the FAT list, and DOS's real priority
is to save the name to the first available slot, so the order starts
getting jumbled.

In that case, I agree that there appears to be nothing else that
would help you (or me) but a utility like DS.exe.  All this discussion
about DIR options is meaningless when you're talking about the file
list in an application's (HV in this case) File/Open menu ... since
the order or presentation is entirely up to how the app is designed
to show it (and directory order is probably easiest to code).

Anyway, perhaps the two-stage save that I suggested above will
prevent the disk anomalies that cause DS problems later.

- Longden

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Mike Kopplin wrote:

> > Any chance to get the maps with 640 pixel width
>
> I've changed the size to 640*200. This could be user selectable
> with a few changes. The zoom levels could also have finer gradations.

user selectable pixel dimensions would be very nice to have
with default values of 640x200.

Finer zoom levels are also welcome. At a resolution of 250ft
(value 2500) MapBlast shows every street with name.

The selecable map units (miles/kilometers/both) have no effect
on the output for me. The units are always ft. or ml.

Hence I suggest to skip this dialog or replace it with color
selection. Default should be b&w (selectable b&w/gray/color).

I'm curious to see how good LXPIC is on color or gray maps.
At least for overview maps, color should add information.

> > http://peichl.hplx.net/gif.zip
>
> Ah, they look much better now :) Do you know any standard command line
> unix tools to do the same?

no I don't, but I'm almost sure that it exists. I searched the
web yesterday for gif2pcx.zip and had one hit. The program
works, but only interactive. So I still prefere the batch file
solution.

> Do you know any free sites that do Address to Lat/Lon coordinates?

no, I'm completely new to this GPS business.

> Mapblast does this internally to display the maps,

I have to play again with Pocket MapBlast:

http://www.mapblast.com/pblast/wgetMap.mb

maybe I can get out something useful on the palmtop.

> This might also bring up legal issues though.

Don't get into trouble! But be assured, the community is on
your side.

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With Mike Kopplin's MapBlast front-end "point and shoot"
on the palmtop is getting real.

MapBlast allows you to go down with latitude/longitude to a
level where you may identify houses.

For example, I found out to live at 49.4107/8.7015
If you program your cruise missile with these values, you
wipe out my house :-(

All you need is a palmtop, Internet and a little missile.
That's the dark side of technology.

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At 02:16 AM 9/17/00 -0400, James Henry wrote:
 >All I get is a test pattern...
 >
 >> On the site at
 >> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/screensavers/showtell/story/0,3656,10713,00.html ,
 >> there is a 'play video' icon.
 >

Yes, I also see a test pattern when I use Real Player to try to view the video.

When I select Windows Media Player, the screen remains blank.

Has anyone managed to view the video from the site?

 >ps.  They have corrected 200XL to 200LX in the heading, but the word
 >Ressurect should be spelt Resurrect.
 >
The spelling mistake has been corrected, pronto!  Seems that 'somebody' is
monitoring feedback from this List.

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Jeff wrote:
> Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM> wrote:
> >I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.
> Does this guy ever contribute anything to this list other than advertisements?

Well his products have enhanced the LX's of some of us that have bought
from him.  I don't know if that has improved my presense on the list but
my 200LX is a bit better backed up with the flash cards I bought and my
pcmcia cards are safer and easier to carry in the padded cases I also
bought from Scott.

I would say his ads are a useful bit noise.  It's too bad we don't have
more folks eyeing us a potential market.

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> user selectable pixel dimensions would be very nice to have
> with default values of 640x200.

Added. The maximum size returned seems to be 1280x1024.


> Finer zoom levels are also welcome. At a resolution of 250ft
> (value 2500) MapBlast shows every street with name.

I changed it to 12 levels of zoom, just labeled 1, 2, 3 etc. I'll try and
think of some more descriptive text to add.


> The selecable map units (miles/kilometers/both) have no effect
> on the output for me. The units are always ft. or ml.

A typo in the script :) It's working now.


> Hence I suggest to skip this dialog or replace it with color
> selection. Default should be b&w (selectable b&w/gray/color).

You can now select the color mode too.


> > > http://peichl.hplx.net/gif.zip
> >
> > Ah, they look much better now :) Do you know any standard command line
> > unix tools to do the same?
>
> no I don't, but I'm almost sure that it exists. I searched the
> web yesterday for gif2pcx.zip and had one hit. The program
> works, but only interactive. So I still prefere the batch file

I found an old version of giflib that I compiled on the palmtop. One of
the utilities in the package is gifinter which converts from interlaced to
non-interlaced and back. I've only tried it a little bit, and haven't had
a chance to really compare it to your gif.zip solution. It seems slower
though. I might try a newer version of giflib, or the less controversial
libungif.


> I have to play again with Pocket MapBlast:
>
> http://www.mapblast.com/pblast/wgetMap.mb
>
> maybe I can get out something useful on the palmtop.

This is where I started. It almost works with the palmtop. You just don't
get a map :( HV shows it as a SUBMIT button.

What this is useful for is though is converting your address to
lat/lon. The map doesn't display, but if you have "Show Links" set on HV,
the links for the other buttons will show the lat/lon coordinates. Look
for CT=xxx.xxxxx:yyy.yyyyyy where x is lat and y is lon, then enter these
on my lxmapblast page.

This is how I was thinking I could add address input on my page. The
address information the client enters is sent by my server to the pocket
mapblast page, the resulting page is parsed for the lat/lon, then this is
used to generate a page that is returned to the client.

> > This might also bring up legal issues though.
>
> Don't get into trouble! But be assured, the community is on
> your side.

Maybe I will send an email to MapBlast, and find out what is permissable
on a for-free basis.

Cheers,
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> Would it be very difficult to add a choice of image sizes?  This would be a
> good way to obtain maps for use with LXGPS, without having to manually
> convert to monochrome. The largest size available in the MapBlast
> customisation screen, 720x640, is pretty reasonable for sensible coverage,
> although something like 1024x768 would be even better.

Image size is now selectable. See my other post for this and other
enhancements. The maximum size seems to be 1280x1024.

I don't follow your comment about not having to convert to
monochrome. This is still necessary. Even MapBlasts B&W mode is a 32 color
gif, so you'll need to use Stefan's gif.zip or some other software to
convert to mono pcx.

Regards,
Mike Kopplin

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kopplin@technoir.nu wrote:

> ...Added. The maximum size returned seems to be 1280x1024.
> ...I changed it to 12 levels of zoom,
> ...A typo in the script :) It's working now.
> ...You can now select the color mode too.

It's absolutely perfect now. Thanks so much!
Even color maps do well with LXPIC. If you switch off dithering
with the {d} key, street names are well readable. However b&w
is preferred unless you want to use the maps on the desktop too.

> I found an old version of giflib that I compiled on the palmtop. One of
> the utilities in the package is gifinter which converts from interlaced to
> non-interlaced and back.

Best would be indeed, if your server could do the conversion
before the download ;-)

> > http://www.mapblast.com/pblast/wgetMap.mb
>
> This is where I started. It almost works with the palmtop. You just don't
> get a map :( HV shows it as a SUBMIT button.
>
> What this is useful for is though is converting your address to
> lat/lon. The map doesn't display, but if you have "Show Links" set on HV,
> the links for the other buttons will show the lat/lon coordinates. Look
> for CT=xxx.xxxxx:yyy.yyyyyy where x is lat and y is lon, then enter these
> on my lxmapblast page.

thanks for this tip. It works well if the address is not
ambiguous. With ambigous addresses HV doesn't seem to offer the
right answer; it bounces with format error.

Thank you again for your work.

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Date:         Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:44:02 +0200
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Hi friends,

I recently added a DATABOOK PCMCIA card drive (ISA card + 3.5" drive
with two slots) to my desktop system to replace the old parallel port
CF card reader by a more powerful device...

With Linux and its PCMCIA package the drive works very well - I simply
insert a card, it beeps, and I can access the contents of a flash card
in /flash. Great! (I didn't try other cards than (C)F cards by now).

Today I tried to install the Windows driver - Windows recognized the
new hardware and installed the driver for it.
When I no insert a CF card (Sandisk 48 MB in CF adapter), it beeps
twice, Windows says "New hardware found - SunDisk ATA flash. Installing
drivers for the new hardware" and the
computer hangs. After a few seconds it reboots itself.

Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

Thanks
daniel

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Hi all,

Came across a website of "Interesting DOS programs" which is updated & full
of links & downloads... check it out!

<http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm>

I downloaded a copy of Orb 2.0, an HTML preprocessor which looks very...
interesting :)

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Scott wrote:
> (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
> One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
> (2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
> One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
> Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
> my address at:
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
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Hello!

How much would costs a PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disk over 100 MB?
Would it be possible to pay with ec-card?

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hello Mike,

very nice job you did.
about the legal issue:

on 16 Sep 2000, at  10:48, Mike Kopplin wrote about
"Re: GPS coordinates with the 200LX":

>
> This might also bring up legal issues though. I'm not 100% sure what
> I'm doing now is ok. From reading their terms of use, I interpret
> them to mean I can display any maps generated by MapBlast as long as
> I include a link to them, display their logo, and its for
> non-commercial use. My interpretation may not be the same as theirs.
> They may argue that my accessing their server indirectly is not
> acceptable.
>
you are not the only one who does things like this.
try this link:
http://map.findu.com/oe9fwv
thats how you find my location....


73!
Werner OE9FWV



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Hi Klaus, I just got your email and it's nice to meet you! Unfornately right
now I am unable to get any disks with that type of size for a good price but
if you go to
www.pricewatch.com you should be able to find a good price on a 100 Meg disk.
If you are interested in anything smaller, then please feel free to email me
back and let me know and I can hold a couple for you.   Thanks alot!  Scott

Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> Scott wrote:
> > (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
> > One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> > Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> >
> > (2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
> > One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> > Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> >
> > Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
> > my address at:
> >
> > Scott Moore
> > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> > Beaverton, Or 97006
> >
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> Hello!
>
> How much would costs a PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disk over 100 MB?
> Would it be possible to pay with ec-card?
>
>                 Klaus.
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Barry wrote:

>With most media, the media itself isn't likely to survive that long
>and I doubt that many institutions will be interested in
>transferring huge archives to new media from time to time.
>A lot of historians fear that in a few centuries less may be known
>about our time than earlier times.

It's not only confined to electronic media - there is also the major
problem that colour photos have a very short life compared with black
and white photos.
Most families today have only colour photographs of their lives, and
already many of these will have deteriorated to the point where they
are completely lost.
Most of us have wonderful monochromes of our parents and earlier
ancestors, going right back to the 1840's, when photography first
became common, but our kids will eventually have not one single photo
of us to look back on, or to show their kids.
A whole generation with no visible traces. Think about it.
I'm slowly identifying my most precious colour shots, and both scanning
them and getting them reprinted with the (true) monochrome process.

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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 09:37:20 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:

>Image size is now selectable. See my other post for this and other
>enhancements. The maximum size seems to be 1280x1024.

Thanks Mike, I'll give it a try.

>I don't follow your comment about not having to convert to
>monochrome. This is still necessary. Even MapBlasts B&W mode is a 32 =
color
>gif, so you'll need to use Stefan's gif.zip or some other software to
>convert to mono pcx.

Sorry, that must have passed me bay :(  I am happy to pop the images into
Paint Shop and reduce to 2 colour PCX. The problem with the colour maps =
is
you end up with lots of dithered areas where there are forests etc, =
making
detail more difficult to see. Starting with a B&W image means the clutter
is removed.

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> It's absolutely perfect now. Thanks so much!
> Even color maps do well with LXPIC. If you switch off dithering

I'll have to try that again. I looked at the color ones before, but that
was before you told me of the problem with the interlaced gifs.


> Best would be indeed, if your server could do the conversion
> before the download ;-)

I've made some inquiries to MapBlast, and am waiting to see what they have
to say before I go any further with this. Server based conversion should
be simple to do though.


> > What this is useful for is though is converting your address to
> > lat/lon. The map doesn't display, but if you have "Show Links" set on HV,
>
> thanks for this tip. It works well if the address is not
> ambiguous. With ambigous addresses HV doesn't seem to offer the
> right answer; it bounces with format error.

That's good news. I wasn't sure it worked at all for non-US addresses.
I've tried a few and they didn't work, but I've never seen a format error.

Cheers,
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> very nice job you did.

Thank you.

> about the legal issue:
>
> you are not the only one who does things like this.
> try this link:
> http://map.findu.com/oe9fwv
> thats how you find my location....

This is encouraging, but I'm also a little confused. These pages appear to
be using MapBlast's "My Mapblast" feature, but I thought this service was
for saved (static) maps. I'll have to read about it again.

Thanks for the link,
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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:06:46 +0000
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Longden Loo wrote:

> Then your file order problem is somewhat the same as mine when
> using LXPIC (as I mentioned earlier) .... LXPIC also displays file
> images in "directory order".

> ...directory order is probably easiest to code

That's the point. DOS only provides the programmer with 2 functions:
 -find first directory entry
 -find next directory entry
This is in the "natural" DOS order. If you delete a file, the
next file you create takes the directory place of the deleted
file.

If a programmer want's to present the files in alphabetic
order, all entries have to be buffered, sorted and presented
in the new order.

I can only talk for LXPIC: I don't have the memory to do that
on an unpredictable number of files in a subdirectory unless
I give up the 64KB code/data limit, which would make LXPIC
unusable with HV in a WWW/POST/HV Stack.

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Hi,

I just recently bought a 200LX and are looking now for a old database
program which can be used on a 200LX. Unfortunally I have thrown away my old
dos programs 10 years ago (when I bought a mac), because I thought I never
need it. Of course this was a big mistake. I still have a copy of paradox 4,
but paradox 4 runs only in protected mode (I don't know if a 86186 processor
supports this mode) and needs at least 384 kbyte EMS memory.

My question now.
Does anyone has a old copy of foxpro, dbase or paradox which can be used on
a HP 200LX, and would sell me the copy ?

Can anyone recomad one of the shareware programs in the simtel dos archive ?

Many thanks in advance for the help

Frank Mattes

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On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Frank M. Mattes wrote:

> Can anyone recomad one of the shareware programs in the simtel dos archive ?


Not sure if it's in simtel, but PC-File is a very good shareware
flat-file database.

Ted

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Frank,

I have a good collection of DOS database engines, utilities,
etc. as I have been a database programmer for 20+ years now.
Of all of them, the one I have found the most appropriate
for the 200LX platform is FoxBase+, the last of the dBase
III-type programs.

FoxPro for DOS (versions 4.5 and 4.6) are a bit more
powerful and "user-friendly" (translations: you can program
without knowing how to code). But the screens are pretty
dreadful on an LX. Good old dBase III+ is also good, though
not as robust as FoxBase+ 2.1. Hope this helps. You can
certainly contact me directly or via the list if you want
any further info.

 Bob Christopher   Littleton, Colorado USA   bc@chisp.net
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          I had my 200lx memory upgraded and speed upgraded by Thaddeus, I
also have a huge card inserted. My battery life is a mere fraction of what it
used to be. Where I used to get 55 hours of life, I now get 10 or 11. Is this
outside the norm? I was expecting 50%, but not 80% loss. I can live with it,
but I _am_ curious.

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Thanks Mike, very nice.

Stefan Peichl wrote:

> The unreadable street names originate in the terrible
> "interlaced" GIF format, which MapBlast uses and which
> LXPIC cannot display properly.

Aha, wondered about that.  In writing my own GIF decoder
to find out some strange goings on, thats about where I
gave up...  LXPIC had some Global/Local color map mix ups.
LZW decoding gack!  But I did get it to work.


> Download the utilities from
>
> http://peichl.hplx.net/gif.zip

Will take a look.  Thanks.

> For example, I found out to live at 49.4107/8.7015
> If you program your cruise missile with these values, you
> wipe out my house :-(

Typing in my address got a map with me at the wrong end
of the block.  Cruise missiles please take note I guess.

Steve

ps
 paraphrasing someone elses signature I saw recently..


CODE CODE CODE CODE CODE CODE CODE
 CODE CODE CODE BUGS CODE CODE CODE
  CODE CODE CODE CODE CODE CODE CODE

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:25:59 +0000
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Frank

PC file was recommended - it uses dbf flles and I would suggest you have
a look at it.  Jim Knopf (aka Jim Button) released it as freeware a couple of
years ago.  It is on S.U.P.E.R. (palmtop.net).

I have tried several programs and always come back to using the built in
database app.  For the types of info I need to reference in the field it works
well.  It might serve your purposes too.

-Mike Melancon


> Date:          Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:57:54 +0100
> Reply-to:      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>                "Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK>
> From:          "Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK>
> Subject:       looking for old dos database (dbase, paradox)
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> Hi,
>
> I just recently bought a 200LX and are looking now for a old database
> program which can be used on a 200LX. Unfortunally I have thrown away my old
> dos programs 10 years ago (when I bought a mac), because I thought I never
> need it. Of course this was a big mistake. I still have a copy of paradox 4,
> but paradox 4 runs only in protected mode (I don't know if a 86186 processor
> supports this mode) and needs at least 384 kbyte EMS memory.
>
> My question now.
> Does anyone has a old copy of foxpro, dbase or paradox which can be used on a
> HP 200LX, and would sell me the copy ?
>
> Can anyone recomad one of the shareware programs in the simtel dos archive ?
>
> Many thanks in advance for the help
>
> Frank Mattes
>
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The 80% reduction in battery life is out of bounds, IMO. You didn't mention
what kind of flash card. That might be the battery eater.  Another battery
depleter is an open serial port.

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DataPerfect is another DOS database that works on the Palmtop.

However, unless you need the relational aspects of a database program,
consider the database built into the Palmtop. It's quite flexible. You'll
find a lot of the answers to your questions at www.palmtoppaper.com in the
archives of the Palmtop Paper.

.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:41:03 -0400
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I use Foxpro 2.6 and feel that's it's one of the most powerful databases you
can have on the LX. I'm also pretty familiar with the X-base language it
uses. Foxbase+ is a lot lighter (a lot less commands) and may be better
suited for you if you have space constraints. If you want to learn foxpro
programming then it's worth it.

If not, I hear that Paradox is easier when it comes to using the user
interface. Someone else mentioned the pc-file program (free!)and that's also
good if you want a menu-driven DBMS. Another good choice is data perfect
(free!). I think that DP doesn't do programs but it will do macros.


Here's an ebay auction for foxpro/dos. I think the last dos version was 2.6.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=438290465


If you're having trouble finding foxbase or foxplus, let me know. I think I
may have more than one package and can sell ya one. I went nuts a while ago
trying to find it on ebay and other sites and wound up with more'n one
'legal' package with original disks.



BTW: This guy also has foxpro for download. You may want to buy a legal
windows copy if you download this as it is probably illegal to own
otherwise. It may be illegal, regardless but at least you know you did the
right thing. M$ may be a marketing whore but they're entitled to their
royalties like anybody else.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html




>-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank M. Mattes Ýmailto:mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK¨
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:58 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ looking for old dos database (dbase, paradox)
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I just recently bought a 200LX and are looking now for a old database
>program which can be used on a 200LX. Unfortunally I have
>thrown away my old
>dos programs 10 years ago (when I bought a mac), because I
>thought I never
>need it. Of course this was a big mistake. I still have a copy
>of paradox 4,
>but paradox 4 runs only in protected mode (I don't know if a
>86186 processor
>supports this mode) and needs at least 384 kbyte EMS memory.
>
>My question now.
>Does anyone has a old copy of foxpro, dbase or paradox which
>can be used on
>a HP 200LX, and would sell me the copy ?
>
>Can anyone recomad one of the shareware programs in the simtel
>dos archive ?
>
>Many thanks in advance for the help
>
>Frank Mattes
>
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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:32:51 -0600
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I have a 96MB, double-speed 200LX, without a memory card, with the Com1 port
power off in DOS, and have also found my battery life to be much less than
expected, (especially compared to my single speed 100LX).

Dale Batson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Naunton ÝSMTP:PNaunton@AOL.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:34 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Battery life.
>
>           I had my 200lx memory upgraded and speed upgraded by Thaddeus, I
> also have a huge card inserted. My battery life is a mere fraction of what
> it
> used to be. Where I used to get 55 hours of life, I now get 10 or 11. Is
> this
> outside the norm? I was expecting 50%, but not 80% loss. I can live with
> it,
> but I _am_ curious.
>
> Phil Naunton
>
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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:53:01 -0700
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The MapBlast for HP200LX page now does addresses and lat/lon thanks to
Stefan. Url is the same for now: www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

There was some trouble with older versions of netscape, but I think it
should work for all browsers now. Let me know if there are any problems.

I also rearranged the forms a bit to make them fit on one HV page.

I'll now start looking at doing server-side deinterlacing of the maps so
that they are directly viewabl in HV.

Thanks again Stefan for the tip.

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This is really really nice. Thanks for the great effort.

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Mike Kopplin
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:53 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: LXMapBlast update


The MapBlast for HP200LX page now does addresses and lat/lon thanks to
Stefan. Url is the same for now: www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

There was some trouble with older versions of netscape, but I think it
should work for all browsers now. Let me know if there are any problems.

I also rearranged the forms a bit to make them fit on one HV page.

I'll now start looking at doing server-side deinterlacing of the maps so
that they are directly viewabl in HV.

Thanks again Stefan for the tip.

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<<The 80% reduction in battery life is out of bounds, IMO. You didn't mention
 what kind of flash card. That might be the battery eater.  Another battery
 depleter is an open serial port.

 .ed.>>

           It could be that you are right about the card. I did not do any research on its power drain. Only that it would work. It is a 10meg IMB PCMCIA ThinkPad File PC Card made by SunDisk in '92.
           I do remember that it crashed the system the first time I used it, because I was still occasionally using Alkalines at that time. I forgot about the current requirements of these little things.
           My, perhaps faulty recollection, however, is that after the upgrade, and without the extra flash card, battery use was still 18 to 20 hours. Internal RAM is now 6meg if that makes any difference.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:39:34 -0400
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> With Mike Kopplin's MapBlast front-end "point and shoot"
> on the palmtop is getting real.
>
> MapBlast allows you to go down with latitude/longitude to a
> level where you may identify houses.
>
> For example, I found out to live at 49.4107/8.7015
> If you program your cruise missile with these values, you
> wipe out my house :-(

This must be some coordinates other than longitude and
lattitude. According to World map you either live in the
Atlantic Ocean just slightly north of Venezuela or So, or
somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean just south of the coast of
Ireland. :-> ...

> All you need is a palmtop, Internet and a little missile.
> That's the dark side of technology.

Yeah...

As to why I was mapping the coordinates: Nothing sinister,
just curious. I mapped once hour by hour the coordinates of
one the balloon trips around the world, and then, in the map
view, just scrolled down, to see the progress across the map
(and the screen!). Also once or twice mapped large hurricanes
at great detail... Quite fascinating.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:48:42 +0200
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Mike,

you hit the nail! Perfect!

Thank you!

Kind regards

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:58:25 +0200
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Dale,

> I have a 96MB, double-speed 200LX, without a memory card, with the Com1 port
> power off in DOS, and have also found my battery life to be much less than
> expected, (especially compared to my single speed 100LX).

Does that mean you expectation are too high?

I have a couple of them and the battery life here is much more than
expected.

Kind regards

Helmuth

>
> Dale Batson
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Naunton ÝSMTP:PNaunton@AOL.COM¨
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:34 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject:      Battery life.
> >
> >           I had my 200lx memory upgraded and speed upgraded by Thaddeus, I
> > also have a huge card inserted. My battery life is a mere fraction of what
> > it
> > used to be. Where I used to get 55 hours of life, I now get 10 or 11. Is
> > this
> > outside the norm? I was expecting 50%, but not 80% loss. I can live with
> > it,
> > but I _am_ curious.
> >
> > Phil Naunton
> >
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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:58:29 +0200
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Mike,

> The MapBlast for HP200LX page now does addresses and lat/lon thanks to
> Stefan. Url is the same for now: www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html

Outstanding!

Thank you and thanks to Stefan!

Kind regards

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Helmuth,

Understanding that I have the com port power shut-off and an empty card
slot, how many hours of use should I expect to get from a fresh pair
alkaline batteries on a 96MB  double-speed 200LX?

Dale

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Dale,
> Does that mean you expectation are too high?
>
> I have a couple of them and the battery life here is much more than
> expected.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:32:38 -0500
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Phil Naunton wrote:

>
>            It could be that you are right about the card. I did not do any research on its power drain. Only that it would work. It is a 10meg IMB PCMCIA ThinkPad File PC Card made by SunDisk in '92.
>            I do remember that it crashed the system the first time I used it, because I was still occasionally using Alkalines at that time. I forgot about the current requirements of these little things.
>            My, perhaps faulty recollection, however, is that after the upgrade, and without the extra flash card, battery use was still 18 to 20 hours. Internal RAM is now 6meg if that makes any difference.
>
> Phil N.
>
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I have two of those "thinkpad file" 10MB cards, and I don't use them at
all any more. They really are slower than other cards, and they seemed
to drain the batteries quickly. Bryan

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:41:41 +0000
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kopplin@technoir.nu wrote:

> I also rearranged the forms a bit to make them fit on one HV page.

very good looking!

There is still one problem: Maps based on address input
are immune to the zoom factor. I analyzed how zoom is
done in Pocket MapBlaster, but it doesn't work with our
approach. Pocket uses &LV=4 as default, &LV=3 for zoomin and
&LV=5 for zoomout. But it uses a different (very lenghty URL).

Maybe you know of an alternative way to zoom, which works
for address & coordinate input.

Address input is very flexible. I used only part of the
streetname and city without area code and got the right map.

Stefan

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:50:43 -0400
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Mike,

> PC file was recommended - it uses dbf flles and I would suggest you have
> a look at it.  Jim Knopf (aka Jim Button) released it as freeware a couple of
> years ago.  It is on S.U.P.E.R. (palmtop.net).

Do you know the version of that freeware PC-File? I am not
near anything I can use to check out SUPER. TIA.

(Knopf in German = Button in English, nice name change.)

> I have tried several programs and always come back to using the built in
> database app.  For the types of info I need to reference in the field it works
> well.  It might serve your purposes too.

I like the built-in db engine a lot. I miss, however, being
able to do:

- Prefill fields, based on content of other fields, i.e. if I
type in field A "xyz", I'd like the same to show up in field
B.

- Logical prefill: If I type xyz in Field A, I like field B to
become zero. If Field A is anyhting else, then I like Field B
to become "J" - just an example... (a bit contrived, but
representative)

- Summation: Summation of field G for all records with Field C
= "N"...

But the engine itself is solid as a rock!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:09:05 +0000
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Phil,

Another thing that can eat battery life is if you do all of
your Email on the card (with all of those reads & writes)
instead of using the internal RAM.   =Bob=

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Stefan has solved the zoom problem on the address page. So, now I think
all features should work for both address and lat/lon. :-)

Thanks again Stefan,
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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:33:17 -0400
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You know to come to think of it, I had an 8 meg card from Simple Tech and I
noticed alkalines went within 12 to 15 hrs. I thought it was because I was
using the serial port alot. I just bought a 40 meg kingston card, didn't get
it  in the mail yet. But I gave the 8 meg to a friend and have been using an
old 2 meg card and  noticed I have logged over 23 hrs on a set of alkalines
so far. The specs for the Kingston card are Sleep/Standby Current 0.5 mA
(typical) 2.0mA (max.) - Read/Write Current 45 mA (typical) 75mA (max.). It
would be nice to know the specs of other cards we are using. If anyone wants
to send me the power scecs of the cards they are using I will compile a list
to share. Send your card specs to me at rstalma@ztrain.com

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Naunton" <PNaunton@AOL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Battery life.

>            It could be that you are right about the card. I did not do any
research on its power drain. Only that it would work. It is a 10meg IMB
PCMCIA ThinkPad File PC Card made by SunDisk in '92.
>            I do remember that it crashed the system the first time I used
it, because I was still occasionally using Alkalines at that time. I forgot
about the current requirements of these little things.
>            My, perhaps faulty recollection, however, is that after the
upgrade, and without the extra flash card, battery use was still 18 to 20
hours. Internal RAM is now 6meg if that makes any difference.
>
> Phil N.
>
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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:31:41 -0400
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Barry,

do you have a URL for the Lotus 123 NG, or would you be willing to
email the file to me?

As to the NG reader, I use Expert Help which is IMO better than the
original Norton Guide. Works just fine on the palmtop, too, and is
quite fast.

Tom


On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 16:58:40 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

 > I have the 123 Release 2 Norton Guide help file.  I haven't used it
 > but I do know that the Norton Guides in general were excellent.  I
 > don't think this will work from within the App Manager, but it will
 > work just fine on the 200lx in normal DOS.  That makes it less handy
 > than it might be otherwise.
 >
 > A Norton Guide clone reader can be found on Simtelnet, although I'm
 > not going to be very shy about sharing NG itself.  They haven't
 > published this in years and, while it's technically illegal, I don't
 > really care and I doubt if Peter Norton does either.

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> I cann't get into detail as before, what do I wrong now? The zoom is
> not identified as it was.

Looks like retrieving a map by address does not support zooming in the
same was as lat/lon. I will look into this. :-(

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> Looks like retrieving a map by address does not support zooming in the
> same was as lat/lon. I will look into this. :-(

Oops, don't know where this message has been. I sent it earlier
today and it's just now showing up. This bug has since been fixed with
help from Stefan.

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On Monday, 18.09.2000 at 17:39 GMT, A Meshar  wrote:
> Stefan Peichl wrote:
> > With Mike Kopplin's MapBlast front-end "point and shoot"
> > on the palmtop is getting real.
> >
> > MapBlast allows you to go down with latitude/longitude to a
> > level where you may identify houses.
> >
> > For example, I found out to live at 49.4107/8.7015
> > If you program your cruise missile with these values, you
> > wipe out my house :-(
>
> This must be some coordinates other than longitude and
> lattitude. According to World map you either live in the
> Atlantic Ocean just slightly north of Venezuela or So, or
> somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean just south of the coast of
> Ireland. :-> ...
>
Well, I think his coordinates should be something like 49.4107/-8.7015. I'm
living in Herrenberg, some 80 km from Karlsruhe and my GPS coordinates
(determined by Gottfried Burckhardt with his Garmin) are 48.6102/-8.8511.

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<kopplin@technoir.nu> wrote:

> So, now I think all features should work for both address and lat/lon. :-)

WHAT A SERVICE!

Within 2 days the palmtop is back in the middle of a completely
new application which boosts productivity by factors. Just
download a map of the address you want to visit before you
leave home, or do it under way with mobile equipment.

Even house numbers in small villages are resolved from MapBlast.
Lost in a big city? Never again. Look for the next street name
and download a map of your surrounding.

Did you notice, that Palm users only have a 150x150 pixel
screen available? The HP200LX screen displays 5.6 times more
map information. With the ability to download even bigger maps
than 640x200, this factor may even be surpassed.

The Pocket MapBlast site only offers 150x150 pixel maps,
guess why ;-)

Mike Kopplin, thank you for your work on your server in
Niue (.NU) and thanks to D&A for WWW&HV and I'm glad to
see a new LXPIC application.

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LLoo@worldnet.att.net blah, blah, blahed ...

>So you suspect that this is perhaps wreaking some havoc on your
>CF card?  I could see where something like Eudora may attempt to
>create scratch files or perhaps a Recycle bin of some sort on its
>own.  Perhaps you should consider saving the file to the Win95
>system's own disk, then when done with Eudora, DOS copy the file
>to the CF card afterwards.  This would afford fewer opportunities for
>unrequested file services on the card.

I don't think it's an anomaly.  DS does not know how to interpret long
filenames.  Even if you save them in 8.3 format, win95 still saves them as
long filenames.  For some reason, one filename is seen by DS as two file
entries.  This can be easily seen when you run DS without any command
parameters.

And then, I can also be completely dead wrong.  I'm not pretending to be a
computer techie but just my simple interpretation and observation.

regards,

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DIR *.* /o:-gn/p

or my default;

SET DIRCMD=/o:-g-d/p

Hope this Helps...
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>> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html <<

Very, very nice

Thanks,
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I've been hooked on my LX so long that I feel a little wierd posting
this here, but... got a Jornada 540 as my "5 year" reward at work and
have been seeing how it will fare taking over the duties of the LX.

The most recent test was with "Pocket Dos" as dos functionality made up
over 50% of my use on the LX.

FWIW, it looks as if the product will meet most needs, plus the fact
that it was written with the PAL extensions in place so that it will run
programs written specifically for the LX.  It has full serial port
access via serial, ir, cf slot, and USB, rotatable/zoomable/scrollable
screens and more.

http://www.pocketdos.com

The 540 offers a small package, recording capabilities, color, browsing,
flexible input options, compact flash, serial port, ir (including
transfers to/from palms...) it's worth a look if you have the need for a
smaller package with some options that are not accessable with the LX.

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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:32:45 +0000

   >> ...directory order is probably easiest to code

I should have qualified this statement a bit more.  In the case of LXPIC,
as Stefan has already noted, "directory order" is really the only option
given LXPIC's design constraints which tries to get the most function
in the smallest package (and succeeds very well too).

   >If a programmer want's to present the files in alphabetic
   >order, all entries have to be buffered, sorted and presented
   >in the new order.

Yes, another case where 90% of the effort would go into only a 10%
improvement in the product.

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Great program, but if you were to use it to find me you would be off by 1.5
miles to the east. The house numbers there start with 0.

Address:
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Karl DeLyria wrote:

> Great program, but if you were to use it to find me you would be off by 1.5
> miles to the east. The house numbers there start with 0.

it works well in the 'old' german world. Usually even house
numbers are on one side of the road, and odd on the other side.
Some cities use different notation: Numbers start on one side
of the road continually up, and go down on the other side.

These cities are strange to me, because I'm already up the road
and ready to just cross the street when I verify, that I have
to go back all the way on the other side ;-)

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> Great program, but if you were to use it to find me you would be off by 1.5
> miles to the east. The house numbers there start with 0.

Sorry, there's nothing I can do about that. That's the way it is in
MapBlast's database apparently. I checked www.mapquest.com for comparison
and the result agreed with what you said. MapBlast just buys there data
from someone else, so I don't think there's much they can do either.

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I really think this is great but how are you guys converting to pcx again?
I have tried that gif.zip file using the gif.bat in that archive and I get
the message that it cannot open the specified gif.  I found gif2pcx.exe and
I get pretty much the same resulot. COuld it be because I am using Windows
2000?
Jim

> -----Original Message-----
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> Mike Kopplin
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:23 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: LXMapBlast update
>
>
> Stefan has solved the zoom problem on the address page. So,
> now I think
> all features should work for both address and lat/lon. :-)
>
> Thanks again Stefan,
> Mike
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I have 1 used copy of Fifth Generation Systems Direct Access 5.1 Menu
System For Sale. Includes both 5 1/4" and 3 1/2" floppies and the manual.

$20.00 which includes shipping within the continental United States.

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> I really think this is great but how are you guys converting to pcx again?
> I have tried that gif.zip file using the gif.bat in that archive and I get
> the message that it cannot open the specified gif.  I found gif2pcx.exe and
> I get pretty much the same resulot. COuld it be because I am using Windows
> 2000?

Make sure when using gif.bat that you don't add the extension, i.e. if
your map is called myhouse.gif you would type in

gif myhouse

lxpic, gif2bmp and bmp2gif should all be in your search path.

I haven't tried gif2pcx, or Windows 2000, so can't help with these.

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> WHAT A SERVICE!
>
> Within 2 days the palmtop is back in the middle of a completely
> new application which boosts productivity by factors. Just
> download a map of the address you want to visit before you
> leave home, or do it under way with mobile equipment.

So far, almost 1100 maps have been requested.


> The Pocket MapBlast site only offers 150x150 pixel maps,
> guess why ;-)

:-)


> Mike Kopplin, thank you for your work on your server in
> Niue (.NU) and thanks to D&A for WWW&HV and I'm glad to
> see a new LXPIC application.

Just a little clarification. The server is actually in my home in
Tucson, Arizona, USA. I am part of the .nu domain in name only. It was
cheap, what more can I say.

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> > > For example, I found out to live at 49.4107/8.7015
> > > If you program your cruise missile with these values, you
> > > wipe out my house :-(
> >
> > This must be some coordinates other than longitude and
> > lattitude. According to World map you either live in the
> Well, I think his coordinates should be something like 49.4107/-8.7015. I'm
> living in Herrenberg, some 80 km from Karlsruhe and my GPS coordinates
> (determined by Gottfried Burckhardt with his Garmin) are 48.6102/-8.8511.

There must be some differences in what is considered positive and negative
directions. At MapBlast, for latitude, south of the equator is negative,
north is positive. For longitude, going west from 0 degrees is negative,
east is positive.

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I picked up four copies of MicroRef Wordperfect 5.1 ShortsCuts on clearance at
Office Depot for pennies a piece.  I would be happy to mail a copy to anyone
who wants one of the other three.

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In a message dated 18-09-2000 2:09:22 PM CST, b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
writes:

<< Phil,

 Another thing that can eat battery life is if you do all of
 your Email on the card (with all of those reads & writes)
 instead of using the internal RAM.   =Bob= >>

        Nope. I am innocent of all charges. I use Buddy, which shuts off the
port when it's not in use. I usually lock it off so I can't use it any too
casually. And I use a self-powered external micro-modem and the C:\ files for
that.   But isn't this "flash" too, after the memory upgrade? Perhaps it's
good "flash" instead of demanding "flash", however.

Phil N.

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Hello does any body know how to get an external program to return
a value to an appointment book field
I am trying to have an appointment give me the number of days to
an event (like the little days to christmas in the top right)
I have found that you can call an external program with
the |   character so I was going to call 123 with a macro to return
the No of days ...

Is  there a  better way of doing this ...

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Stefan,

I like to share your comments! It is a pleasure to read your words, I
have nothing more to add.

And again, there are the applications, which make the hp200lx valuable
for me in the daily use.

Great, this opens the horizon again for me.

Thank you very much and to all of you in this community.

Kind regards

Helmuth


> > So, now I think all features should work for both address and lat/lon. :-)
>
> WHAT A SERVICE!
>
> Within 2 days the palmtop is back in the middle of a completely
> new application which boosts productivity by factors. Just
> download a map of the address you want to visit before you
> leave home, or do it under way with mobile equipment.
>
> Even house numbers in small villages are resolved from MapBlast.
> Lost in a big city? Never again. Look for the next street name
> and download a map of your surrounding.
>
> Did you notice, that Palm users only have a 150x150 pixel
> screen available? The HP200LX screen displays 5.6 times more
> map information. With the ability to download even bigger maps
> than 640x200, this factor may even be surpassed.
>
> The Pocket MapBlast site only offers 150x150 pixel maps,
> guess why ;-)
>
> Mike Kopplin, thank you for your work on your server in
> Niue (.NU) and thanks to D&A for WWW&HV and I'm glad to
> see a new LXPIC application.
>
> Stefan
>
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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:25:28 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Dale,

> Understanding that I have the com port power shut-off and an empty card
> slot, how many hours of use should I expect to get from a fresh pair
> alkaline batteries on a 96MB  double-speed 200LX?

I am using Sanyo 1500 mA, Com port is switched on when it is required.
During travel I also use a PCMCIA 56K modem and an ACCTON network card.

Usually I change the batteries after 15h of operation, which is after 2
days. My wife doesn't use it that much, she changes the batteries every
week or 10 days. I see a lot of dendencies which influence the battery
life.

Is this what you might expect too? Is it still less of what you you
expect.

Basically I did upgrade the hp200lx to DS and 96MB, because I need it
for my daily business.

And as long as I can work for a couple of days on the net without
using a powersupply, then I am fine.

Maybe I missed the point where your wrote you expectations are 15 hours
of operation, but you only got e.g. four hours. I only did read that
battery life in your upgrade hp200lx is much less than expected. Does
that mean your expectations are too high or battery life is too short?
<g>

Thanks to Mack Baggette for making this upgrade available.


Kind regards

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:39:27 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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James Henry wrote:

> I really think this is great but how are you guys converting to pcx again?
> I have tried that gif.zip file using the gif.bat in that archive

GIF.BAT first converts to BMP using GIF2BMP.EXE, then back to
GIF with BMP2GIF.EXE, which eliminates the interlaced format.
The final conversion to b&w PCX is done on the deinterlaced
GIF with LXPIC in offline mode. To analyse your problem you
should remove the @echo off command from GIF.BAT

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:56:44 +0800
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Hi There,

When I used a 8MB double speed unit with an old SanDisk 85MB card- I
got about 12hrs of battery life. When I bought my 220MB SanDisk card, I
suddenly got 18hrs of battery life. Today with my 64MB double speed
unit and 220MB SanDisk card- I get 20hrs out of a pair of Alkaline =
Energizer
batteries.

Jorgen

> I have a 96MB, double-speed 200LX, without a memory card, with the Com1 =
port
> power off in DOS, and have also found my battery life to be much less =
than
> expected, (especially compared to my single speed 100LX).
>
> Dale Batson
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Naunton ÝSMTP:PNaunton@AOL.COM¨
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:34 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject:      Battery life.
> >
> >           I had my 200lx memory upgraded and speed upgraded by =
Thaddeus, I
> > also have a huge card inserted. My battery life is a mere fraction of =
what
> > it
> > used to be. Where I used to get 55 hours of life, I now get 10 or 11. =
Is
> > this
> > outside the norm? I was expecting 50%, but not 80% loss. I can live =
with
> > it,
> > but I _am_ curious.
> >
> > Phil Naunton

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I didn't know that originally, so I added it. Now the program seems to run
without an error message but I don't see any .pcx files!

-----Original Message-----
From: Guenther Helmuth E. Ýmailto:h_e_guenther@attglobal.net¨
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 5:25 AM
To: jhenry@comcastwork.com
Subject: Re: LXMapBlast update


James,

> I really think this is great but how are you guys converting to pcx again?
> I have tried that gif.zip file using the gif.bat in that archive and I get
> the message that it cannot open the specified gif.  I found gif2pcx.exe
and
> I get pretty much the same resulot. COuld it be because I am using Windows
> 2000?
> Jim

I have also lxpic, see homepage Stefan Peichl, in the path.

Kind regards

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:15:14 +0100
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Dear HP 200 users,

many thanks for the information about good databases dunning on a HP200.
Many have suggested to use PC-File and I will have a look into this.
Another suggestion was FoxBase, which should handle the small screen better
than the newer program FoxPro.

I'm wondering if someone has a spare copy/diskimage and could sell this to
me.

Cheers
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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:15:43 +0100
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Dear Bob,

I have sent you a e-mail to bc@chisp.net, rgarding foxbase+, but I think it
doen't go through.
Please let me know if you have received the e-mail

I appologize to send a e-mail to the listserver

Frank
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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:02:02 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Cute idea, tho a small standalone program would probably be cleaner than trying
to use 123 and a macro (and no, I'm not volunteering to write the program).

I'd like to see your final solution if you come up with one.

- Longden (deadbeat user and sponge)





Alban Pearce <alban@MYCROFT.U-NET.COM> on 09/18/2000 10:29:41 PM

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Subject:  Appointnent Book Question



Hello does any body know how to get an external program to return
a value to an appointment book field
I am trying to have an appointment give me the number of days to
an event (like the little days to christmas in the top right)
I have found that you can call an external program with
the |   character so I was going to call 123 with a macro to return
the No of days ...

Is  there a  better way of doing this ...

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:23:19 -0400
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Some cities use different notation: Numbers start on one side
> of the road continually up, and go down on the other side.
>
> These cities are strange to me, because I'm already up the road
> and ready to just cross the street when I verify, that I have
> to go back all the way on the other side ;-)

I left a hotel once to go to a meeting at some address. The
traffic was horrible and I drove and drove and drove. Until
the end of the city! Then back - to a building across the
street from the hotel and one building away! :-( I also don't
like such cities :) ... (Yes, I was late to the meeting...)

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BOCHE@de.ibm.com wrote:

Re Peichl's home Cruise missile coordinates:

> Well, I think his coordinates should be something like 49.4107/-8.7015. I'm
> living in Herrenberg, some 80 km from Karlsruhe and my GPS coordinates
> (determined by Gottfried Burckhardt with his Garmin) are 48.6102/-8.8511.

Yes, I agree, it must the -8... The idiosyncracy belongs to
the HP WorldTime app, no?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Phil,

There are basically three consumers of power: Cpu, drives &
peripherals, screen.

Disks (PCMCIAs, PC Cards - I use the terms interchangeably) will definitely consume more if they are the older 12V
type. There are also 5V PC cards, and 3.3V. The newer are 3.3V
and they consume less power in idle, reading and writing.

A speeded up machine will take 15% or so more battery.

Screen is a big item of course.

There are other peripherals such as the serial port, but you
can turn its power off by pressing Ctrl-Filer, F6 (Comm),
Alt-E to uncheck the "Enable Com1 Port in DOS" box. Confirm it
in the Setup screen (CTRL-Filer), second line, right side.

Filer has its own mind! If it is open it will peruse the
drives, it will do things (housekeeping) which will add load
to the battery. If you have Filer open in a non-SC using
machine, or you use Software Carousel, and your currently
loaded workarea contains Filer, then don't just close that
app, but really-really close it. This application remains
"asleep" (and takes memory) when you close it normally as
you'd close other applications. The intent of the designers
was that if you run out of memory and must delete some file in
order to make room on the disk, you can use the "drmant"
Filer. The primary example they gave was using Lotus, building
a worksheet with valuable data and not be able to save it for
lack of storage on the drive. In their mindset, you'd jump to
Filer, delete some unnecessary file, then back to lotus and
save the file. Why they turned a blind eye to the Lotus
"delete file" function (which can delete ANY FILE) will remain
a mystery! :-<

But we are encumbered with the Filer that cannot be beaten
down. There is a bit in the Applications Manager data file
designating Filer as a "sleeper". In S.U.P.E.R. you can find
CLOSEFLR which you run one time to turn off that bit and
thereafter you can close Filer, its activity under the covers
will be quashed, and the memory it occupies will be released.
CLOSEFLR manipulates file appmgr.dat. To close filer is weird:
You open it, then WHILE Filer is open, press the blue &...,
find the Filer Icon, press F6 to close. To open Filer again
takes two presses of the Filer button.

There are other factors in battery consumption that people
wrote about. Finally there is you.

I found that with a speeded up machine I used the machine
more. My time on the machine actually pressing keys went up by
about 35%. Not only could I do more in the same amount of
time, I also found new tasks to do because I had more time, as
well as a more responsive machine. This heightened level of
activity translated directly to more writes, more reads, more
screen activity - all of them consuming more power from the
battery. This is hard to see, because you do not have a handy
little "activity meter". (In our ABC/LX we built in a "User
Timer" which counts minutes during which you pressed a key on
the keyboard, sort of a crude "activity meter".)

But that is potentially your largest consumer of power. The
cpu tries to go to sleep when it is not needed (even between
keypresses). When such occasions are less frequent there will
be higher power consumption. These sleep occasions are less
frequent on a machine that is more "useful" i.e. a machine you
turn to more frequently to do more things on, view information
etc. So even if the machine is turned on, it may be "sleeping"
more if it less frquently used, thus consuming less power.
This means that you will read more hours on the battery,

I do not know your work style, but I use my machine anywhere
from 10 to 18 hours per day, it works harder than my pen! I
get about 8-10 hours on a set of green 1500mAh batteries. When
in the office, I always plug it into the adapter. I won't plug
our product ABC/LX here, but this helps me keep the battery
topped off. If you are working outside away from an adapter,
you need to be much more cautious and monitor the battery
power drain.

If you go for long periods away from an adapter, then you may
wish to check out the possibility of creating an external
power pack. Righ sufficient batteries so you can get 12V and
connect them with an appropriate plug (check the polarity!!!)
to the palmtop's adapter plug. The machine will "think" it is
on an adapter, bypass using the internal batteries, and in
fact will charge them from the external source. Parts can be
obtained at Radio Shack, or other such stores. Yes, it is
heavy if you use alkaline batteries, but with a 8-pack of
lithium batteries it is not so bad. Other arrangements can
also be made with the new-fangles gel batteries, and other
contraptions.

Well, enough... :) Hope all these observations help.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:23:33 -0700
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Hi.
In the past, there were folks on this list who were able to
receive daily emails of news, possibly taken from web sites
which were then converted to text before emailing.
Unfortunately, I no longer have the information on the
provider of this service.
Does anyone do this any more?  Also, I'd love to get a
daily weather forecast emailed to me.

Thanks for any help!
J. P. Grenert
grenert@palmtop.com
or grenert@yahoo.com


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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:13:09 -0400
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Hey;
Since I just got my 200LX a few months ago I have been havin a ball! All
those old DOS memories are coming back! Anyway you guys probaly been thorugh
this but I'm gonna ask anyway! Would'nt it be nice to have some high memory
UMB's to load a few programs high? Since we have no upper memory that
presents a problem, though quarterdeck manifest shows some shadow ram hiding
up high. I have been playing with various drivers, and found a driver that
will create UMB's in a 64k EMS page frame window. Taking it a step farther,
I found that by creating some ems using the emm200 driver along with the
other program I can create a 64K UMB area and sucessfuly load drivers high
into it.
But, the ems200 does not seem to be compatable with the enhanced lim4.0
standards, which while loading drivers high in this manner works, but not
for long before a conflict an a resulting crash! The problem could also be
the lack of using an better xms manager, since himem.sys wont recognize the
cpu in the LX and won't load with the message that a
80x86 processor is required.
Am I making sense, or just wasting time?

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:56:19 -0700
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Since the impact on battery life using Filer has been recently surfaced, I
thought I'd re-send a copy of an earlier email on this subject.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the info.  Perhaps someone else has more
knowledge.

>X-From_: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU  Fri Sep 18 12:11:29 1998
>X-Comment: UCONNVM.UConn.Edu: Mail was sent by mailc.telia.com
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
>Date:         Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:05:43 +0200
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>         Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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>From: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
>Subject:      Re: Filer and Light Sleep
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
>Bruce Martin asked
>
> > Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but does the high drain
> > (apparently associated with disabled Lite Sleep) also occur after a
> > ÝMenu¨ÝQuit¨ from Filer?
>
>First a few words about what the "high drain" is - it's the increase in
>current draw from around 20mA to around 80mA on a 2meg 200LX that occurs
>when Filer is not running and there has been a high drain situation since
>last time Filer was started.
>
>If you just exit filer (any method) and run Memo, (or any other 200lx app)
>the current consumption remains low.
>
>You can quit filer any way you want, from the menu in Filer itself, or from
>the APP mgr. screen or by removing it from memory with the Closefiler app
>without the LX drawing more current.
>If you quit filer as your last application however, so that your lx is
>displaying the top card, the power drain goes to "high".
>
>The high drain occurs
>1) when you close all built in apps and display the top card or
>2) shell out to DOS or
>3) Quit all apps and run dos
>4) Use an app that initializes the sderial or IR ports and draws power
>The serial port on its own draws appx. 12-15mA.
>
>The quirk is that the LX hardware ruitines allows power to increase, but
>doesn't reduce it again.
>
>And for all worriers - this is of theoretical interest only as it is easily
>counteracted by reopening Filer once in a while.
>I just completed a battery drain test on a pair of Duracells, and at
>constant 100mA discharge they lasted over 23 hours!
>So even at "high drain" any reputable battery will give good service. When
>the unit is switched off the drain is very low, no matter how the sleep
>modes are configured.
>
>BTW: This phenomenon occurs "right out of the box" and on early 100lx's as
>well as on my 94 200lx.

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Try this one J.P.

http://www.infobeat.com

I get news and weather from it daily... in text form.  I think they
offer more services besides these two, its been a while since I've
visited the site.

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

> Hi.
> In the past, there were folks on this list who were able to
> receive daily emails of news, possibly taken from web sites
> which were then converted to text before emailing.
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the information on the
> provider of this service.
> Does anyone do this any more?  Also, I'd love to get a
> daily weather forecast emailed to me.
>
> Thanks for any help!
> J. P. Grenert
> grenert@palmtop.com
> or grenert@yahoo.com
>
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Phil,

I guess I wasn't clear.  A couple of yrs. ago I had Accis for
Compuserve set up on a flash card.  I was using an external
pocket modem.  For me the issue wasn't the serial port, but
reading and writing forum message using a flash card instead
of reading & writing message in the internal RAM of the
200LX.  i was eating batteries much faster until I switched
Accis from the flash card to the internal RAM.   =Bob=

> In a message dated 18-09-2000 2:09:22 PM CST, b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
> writes:
>
> << Phil,
>
>  Another thing that can eat battery life is if you do all of
>  your Email on the card (with all of those reads & writes)
>  instead of using the internal RAM.   =Bob= >>
>
>         Nope. I am innocent of all charges. I use Buddy, which shuts off the
> port when it's not in use. I usually lock it off so I can't use it any too
> casually. And I use a self-powered external micro-modem and the C:\ files for
> that.   But isn't this "flash" too, after the memory upgrade? Perhaps it's
> good "flash" instead of demanding "flash", however.
>
> Phil N.
>
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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:04:02 -0400
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
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I know you can get this from CNN. I still carry it on my BBS, converted to a
conference, for all my users to read daily.  It's headlinenewsmail@cnn.com.
Jim


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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Automatic emailed news and weather
>
>
> Hi.
> In the past, there were folks on this list who were able to
> receive daily emails of news, possibly taken from web sites
> which were then converted to text before emailing.
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the information on the
> provider of this service.
> Does anyone do this any more?  Also, I'd love to get a
> daily weather forecast emailed to me.
>
> Thanks for any help!
> J. P. Grenert
> grenert@palmtop.com
> or grenert@yahoo.com
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:43:57 -0700
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              gat xlph <tag_hplx@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         gat xlph <tag_hplx@YAHOO.COM>
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Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
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Yahoo works fine now, with POP3, thanks for all your
inputs
Yes, Avi, Yahoo uses cookies if you get the mail via
their Web / URL (you know POP3 doesnot need cookies
-tongue in cheek, trying to teach the master how
things work -hope don't get scolded)

--- A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
> I believe Yahoo EMail uses Javascript but also
multiple
> cookies. HV (the screen painter portion in WWW/LX)
supports
> one cookie. It also does not interpret javascript at all.

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:22:23 -0700
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Subject:      Country list in LXMapBlast
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If your country, or countries you are interested in, are not currently a
choice on the LXMapBlast address page, let me know. There are many
countries available, and I don't have the time to look up the appropriate
code for them all right now, but I will add requests as soon as possible.

Cheers,
Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:35:35 EDT
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Hi Scott.

Any chance of getting the price down if I buy more than one.  thanks
and if you can't I understand.

                                    Harv.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 07:22:28 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Mike,

> If your country, or countries you are interested in, are not currently a
> choice on the LXMapBlast address page, let me know. There are many
> countries available, and I don't have the time to look up the appropriate
> code for them all right now, but I will add requests as soon as possible.

Thank you for adding Austria!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:32:15 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
 >
 >GIF.BAT first converts to BMP using GIF2BMP.EXE, then back to
 >GIF with BMP2GIF.EXE, which eliminates the interlaced format.
 >The final conversion to b&w PCX is done on the deinterlaced
 >GIF with LXPIC in offline mode.

Thanks for your GIF.BAT programs.

Is there a way to join together the various maps that we capture and
convert for a particular city so that it can be used as a kind of database
with search functions.

Do any of you use a map database program in your LX?

I am using RoadPilot PT for Singapore, but am scratching my head how can I
create and compile updated map database, since the company no longer
supports it.

http://www.np.edu.sg/~adp-nitec/showcase/RoadP.html has some information on
how RoadPilot PT was developed.

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Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:13:35 -0600
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I've been working on a project which would allow us all to share our palmtop
data with the Win32 platform.  The program is being coded with Visual Basic
6.0.

The program can now read a GDB file and is almost ready to write to the GDB
format.  With some modifications, the data could be used by MS Access, Excel or
even Outlook or ASP.

I haven't had much time to spend on it.  With some help, I think we can create
an open source project to develop the following:

Read & write data to all HPLX formats via Access, Excell, Outlook...
Repair Palmtop database
Syncronize data with desktop or WinCE.
Create an english version of WinGDB.

Anyone willing to help?

You can download the code at
http://www.squidvision.com/gdb32/download.htm


Regards,

Donald Collins
Folsom, CA

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:53:10 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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hi Mike,

On 19 Sep 2000, at 0:20, Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> Mike Kopplin, thank you for your work on your server in
> Niue (.NU) and thanks to D&A for WWW&HV and I'm glad to
> see a new LXPIC application.
>
> Stefan
>
I agree 100%. A great service.
thank you very much!

Werner



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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:09:20 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Using LXMapBlast with Lynx
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Those of you who use Lynx for web browsing may be interested in
knowing that the INLINE image created with LXMapBlast can be seen
as an explicit link if Lynx is started with the command line
option "-image_links" (without quotes, of course).

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:16:56 -0400
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              Brian McIlvaine <brian.mcilvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
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Subject:      FA: On Ebay - 8Mb Doublespeeded HP 200LX
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Link is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=443439581


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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:20:43 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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FLUFF Warning!

Jeff,

Do you plan/is it possible/ to contact the International
Space Station the way you did with Mir?  Do you need to
adjust the number of coat hangers used, or with the bigger
is better NASA view will you have to upgrade to a set of
box springs?

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000918.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000826.html

Actually, what are the differences in orbital parameters
and policies?

Steve

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:27:08 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:20:43 -0400, Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:

> Do you plan/is it possible/ to contact the International
> Space Station the way you did with Mir?  Do you need to
> adjust the number of coat hangers used, or with the bigger
> is better NASA view will you have to upgrade to a set of
> box springs?

It will be just as easy to contact hte ISS via 1200bps FSK packet as well as
2 meter FM voice. :) No fancy equipment is needed. All it takes is a FCC
amateur radio license.

> Actually, what are the differences in orbital parameters
> and policies?

I am not where I can follow the links right now, so you may have to explain
that question. Both the ISS and Mir circle the globe once every 90 minutes
and at time are actually within sight of each other.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:56:32 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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I have a smartmedia to PCMCIA adapter that I used in my HP200 that I'm
not using any more, and I thought I would give the list a chance to buy
it since it works in the HP before I put it up on e-bay. I'm selling it
because I don't have anything that uses smartmedia any more, I used to
have a camera.

This is a full size type I PCMCIA card that you put your smartmedia card
in and then read it in a regular PCMCIA slot like on the HP200. No
drivers are needed, it appears to be a regular ATA PCMCIA flash card to
the computer. It even has a cute little eject button on the card and you
can eject the SM card without taking the adapter out of the computer.
The card is made by "Peripheral Snapz" (www.peripheral.com). I don't
know what the biggest SM card that this will support is, but I used it
with 4MB and 16MB cards. It is for 3.3v media only (most stuff is these
days). Fully working when I stopped using it. I bought it about a year
ago from wal-mart on line for $59.

Terms. Price is $25 plus $3 to cover priority mail shipping to you.
First e-mail takes it. I can ship to the USA only, sorry. I'll ship as
soon as I receive your payment. I'm selling it "as it" but is was fully
working when I used it last, and it does work in the HP200 and in my
toshiba laptop, and in my desktop reader.  I don't know if it will work
in an HP100 or not.

Bryan

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:42:01 -0600
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From:         "David B. Marks" <dbmarks@SANDIA.GOV>
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Subject:      Re: Automatic emailed news and weather
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Hi.
> In the past, there were folks on this list who were able to
> receive daily emails of news, possibly taken from web sites
> which were then converted to text before emailing.
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the information on the
> provider of this service.
> Does anyone do this any more?  Also, I'd love to get a
> daily weather forecast emailed to me.

I get mine in text form from www.weather24.com

Dave

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:50:08 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> But, the ems200 does not seem to be compatable
> with the enhanced lim4.0 standards, which while
> loading drivers high in this manner works, but not
>for long before a conflict an a resulting crash! The
> problem could also be the lack of using an better
> xms manager, since himem.sys wont recognize the
> cpu in the LX and won't load with the message that
> a 80x86 processor is required.
> Am I making sense, or just wasting time?

It's been many years since I concerned myself with ems and xms, etc.
I don't even remember which is which anymore.  And I've never
attempted to expanded memory on the 200lx.  Lot's of people have and
I'm sure you'll get some answers.

But I can give you some idea of what's in the 200lx that might help
a little.

There is no expanded memory (I'm going to call it ems to save
typing.  Correct me if I have it backwards) onboard but there is a
memory manager chip that maps memory to allow the use of the apps in
rom and the use of ram and the ramdisk, etc. on a cpu that can only
see one meg.  I don't remember the details but it's fully explained
in the development kit from HP.

Essentially it lets you remap memory in 16k blocks.  Years ago I
looked this over pretty carefully (probably in the 95lx days) and
decided it should be able to be used to emulate ems with a proper
driver.  As I remember it could do more than emulate it.  It could
do the same thing ems does in the same way.  It was probably
designed by someone accustomed to thinking in ems terms.  But a
special driver would be needed because it wasn't ems per se.

Later someone wrote such a driver and I remember there were problems
with the early version but it worked with a lot of things and I
think I remember that a later version came along that supposedly
worked pretty well.  I never used it myself.  I don't know what
version of the LIM standard it conformed to, if any.

If you get the development kit (www.palmtoppaper.com) you can get
detailed information about the hardware.  I did see a version of an
ems driver for the 200lx some years ago that came with source or
with an offer for source.  I'm not sure which, now.  But it might be
worth looking for.

By the way, the cpu isn't an 8086, it's an 80186.  That has no
bearing on this but it's often significant since it does have all
the non-protected mode opcodes of the 286 and will run any 286
software that doesn't need protected mode.

I'm not sure if you really wanted to know any of this but I thought
it might help and it was fun trying to remember all this stuff, even
though most of it seems to be gone from my head.  :)

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:04:30 EDT
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From:         Bill Krauss <Bk361kb@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Country list in LXMapBlast
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In a message dated 9/20/00 9:47:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU writes:

<< If your country, or countries you are interested in, are not currently a
 choice on the LXMapBlast address page, let me know. >>

How about Mexico?
Bill

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:15:31 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU
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> << If your country, or countries you are interested in, are not currently a
>  choice on the LXMapBlast address page, let me know. >>
>
> How about Mexico?

Mexico is now a choice.

Unfortuneately, Mexico, like a number of other requests I've had, has a
dissapointing level of detail at MapBlast. Major cities and roads are
shown, and that's about it. Better than nothing I guess.

Mike

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:29 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

does anyone here use a DSL onnection to the internet with the palmtop?

I'm considering whether I set up a "T-DSL" connection (the ADSL of the
"Deutsche Telekom"). With the desktop PC and linux it shouldn't be a
problem, since I only need an ethernet card for the desktop machine.
But I'm corious if I can use the DSL line also with the palmtop.
Is the ethernet protocol that's possible to use with www/lx also a PPP
protocol like the PPPOE (ppp over ethernet) protocol that I have to use
under Linux?

My decision whether I'll use T-DSL or not doesn't depend on the
usability with the palmtop, since I can continue to use the modem with
the palmtop (or even set up IP-masquerading and a SLIP server on my
linux box so I can connect to the internet with the palmtop via the
linux box and T-DSL).

Does anyone use such a SLIP setup? (how) does it work??
Actually I wanted to try such a setup a long time ago, but I didn't
have a working COM port for a SLIP line, since COM4 uses the same IRQ as
COM2, which is used by the modem (COM1 is used my the mouse, so COM3
isn't a choice either). But if I remove the modem from my desktop box
when I use DSL, I HAVE a free COM-port and IRQ!!!! 8-)

GTX
daniel (who is currently very enthusiastc about soon having a DSL line,
maybe even useable by the palmtop....)

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Hi Stefan,

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:53:19 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> it works well in the 'old' german world. Usually even house
> numbers are on one side of the road, and odd on the other side.
> Some cities use different notation: Numbers start on one side
> of the road continually up, and go down on the other side.
>
> These cities are strange to me, because I'm already up the road
> and ready to just cross the street when I verify, that I have
> to go back all the way on the other side ;-)

This strange numbering scheme is also very usual in Germany! At least
here in Berlin you never know how the houses are numbered - so you run
into the problem you described very often here! :-(

GTX
daniel

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Sorry, but the short answer is that it's not worth it.

I've done it on Win95, but it's a royal pain.  You basically have to
unload or disable all of the IRDA pieces and configure the ir port on
the Win machine as a generic comm port without hardware flow control.

After all of the above, start a com program on the Win machine and set
it at 2400 baud 8N1 with no flow control to the IR port and do the same
with the LX's DataComm and begin typing on each machine so that you can
see the results on the other... then start upping the speed to find out
what's possible.

LapLink's software did the best, speed wise using the built in software
on the menu, but that was back in the days of Win3.1 where the TSR
driver could be loaded.

In addition, (at least on mine) the LX ir emitter is extremely weak and
requires almost window to window contact to communicate.

My personal suggestion would be to look at a compact flash card approach
to transferring information.

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:55:48 -0700
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A few changes :-)

I now do server-side deinterlacing of the maps, so it's no longer
necessary to do it on your palmtop. You might notice a short delay, but in
testing it was no more than a second or two.

The layout of the result page now has changed some, and the map is now an
inline image that is also a link to the image. I hope this will resolve
some issues with HV and make use with lynx easier (Thanks Ted for the
heads-up on this).

Let me know of any problems or criticisms.

Mike Kopplin

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> I've been working on a project which would allow us all to share our palmtop
> data with the Win32 platform.  The program is being coded with Visual Basic
> 6.0.

I wish I had the talent to help but I strongly encourage and applaud your
efforts.

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This is high up on the geek scale!

Thanks Mike.

I haven't been following this closely since I'm usually pretty skeptical of map
displays on the LX ... but the retrieval response time is crisp and the details
are great.

Any idea if the map display can convert an address to a latitude/longitude also
(maybe displayed next to the address ... off the map)?

Now all we need are routing maps <g>.

- Longden





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A few changes :-)

I now do server-side deinterlacing of the maps, so it's no longer
necessary to do it on your palmtop. You might notice a short delay, but in
testing it was no more than a second or two.

The layout of the result page now has changed some, and the map is now an
inline image that is also a link to the image. I hope this will resolve
some issues with HV and make use with lynx easier (Thanks Ted for the
heads-up on this).

Let me know of any problems or criticisms.

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I would encourage any c++ programmers to see how I was able to read the format
in Visual Basic & use this info to do the same in c++.  The GDB format was
intended to be read by a c application.

Don.

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> I've been working on a project which would allow us all to share our palmtop
> data with the Win32 platform.  The program is being coded with Visual Basic
> 6.0.

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If you have problems using PCMCIA devices with the Databook TMB series under
Microsoft Windows 9x, it's probably due to a lack of available interrupts.
On my wife's system I had to disable either the USB port or one of the
serial ports to get back enough hardware interrupts (in fact someone else
told me it should have IRQ5 available to give to devices that look like
IDE/ESDI hard disk controllers).  Most modern BIOSes permit you to disable
hardware on the motherboard.  Give this a try.

Alan

>From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨
>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:44 PM
>...
>I recently added a DATABOOK PCMCIA card drive (ISA card + 3.5" drive
>with two slots) to my desktop system to replace the old parallel port
>CF card reader by a more powerful device...
>...
>Today I tried to install the Windows driver - Windows recognized the
>new hardware and installed the driver for it.
>When I no insert a CF card (Sandisk 48 MB in CF adapter), it beeps
>twice, Windows says "New hardware found - SunDisk ATA flash. Installing
>drivers for the new hardware" and the
>computer hangs. After a few seconds it reboots itself.

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> Let me know of any problems or criticisms.

Works great with Lynx--thanks Mike!

Ted

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> I haven't been following this closely since I'm usually pretty
> skeptical of map displays on the LX ... but the retrieval response
> time is crisp and the details are great.

Speaking of deatils, I have a hard time reading the street names
in LXPIC unless I zoom (+).  Am I doing something wrong?

Ted

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Some LXGPS input.

LXGPS scrolls maps that are larger than the LX screen size.  I have had
no problems with 1280x1024 maps that I have generated from screen
captures on my system.

To use these maps with LXGPS or any other gps program you are going to
need to have an exact LAT/LONG position of two widely spaced points on
the map for calibration purposes.

I'm not sure of an easy way to do this, but one approach would be to
print the map you need, then print two additional maps requesting by an
approx lat/long of points near opposite corners and overlay them to fix
the points on the original map.  You could also drive to two
intersections near opposite corners with a gps and record their
locations.

A word of caution.  Be careful with these MapQuest maps.  For example,
an airport shown in my local area is about 5 miles from it's actual
location.

If anyone is interested, I have posted an updated copy of the GPS
article I wrote for the Palmtop Paper as well as some information on
converting maps as well as using and calibrating LXGPS.  Click on the
image of the Tripmate receiver at http://www.BevHoward.com

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard


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That was the case for me before Mike's change today to de-interlace the map gifs
on the server (I hadn't had time yet to try/use Stefan's GIF tool).

The street name text is noticeably clearer now (meaning legible) at the default
640x200, and without zooming on the LX .... OTOH I have 20-20 <g>.

- Longden





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> I haven't been following this closely since I'm usually pretty
> skeptical of map displays on the LX ... but the retrieval response
> time is crisp and the details are great.

Speaking of deatils, I have a hard time reading the street names
in LXPIC unless I zoom (+).  Am I doing something wrong?

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FWIW, I generated a home area map and dropped it on the Jornada's CF
card (55k for 128x1024), click on the file with CEExplorer and it's
displayed in PocketExplorer.

Note, select "View" and uncheck "Fit to Screen" for max detail.

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<kopplin@technoir.nu> wrote:

> I now do server-side deinterlacing of the maps, so it's no longer
> necessary to do it on your palmtop. You might notice a short delay, but in
> testing it was no more than a second or two.

that means, no more need of the annoying GIF.BAT procedure. If
you still want to convert to b&w PCX files, just say

lxpic map*.gif/o

This will translate offline all your mapxxxxx.gif into the
corresponding b&w mapxxxxx.pcx files, without deleting the
original gifs.

If you downloaded the maps in color, you should use

lxpic map*.gif/do

which removes the dither from the map.

Many thanks to Mike Kopplin for his unselfish work and the
free access to his server.

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gat xlph wrote:
> Yahoo works fine now, with POP3, thanks for all your
> inputs

Aha! Yes, they have a membership level that exposes you to
their emails as well the emails of their "associates" and
"affiliates". I chose against going with that because I really
did not want MORE email :-) ...

> Yes, Avi, Yahoo uses cookies if you get the mail via
> their Web / URL (you know POP3 doesnot need cookies
> -tongue in cheek, trying to teach the master how
> things work -hope don't get scolded)

I am no master - very far from it. I know enough to get myself
into troubles, though! :-> ..

Glad you are functioning now with Yahoo. Are you by chance
using Post/LX?

How about Hotmail?

Best regards,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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I'm getting a lot of requests for the Norton Guide for 123.  But
it's a large file and I don't want to email it to a lot of people.
Does anyone have a site that I can upload it to make it available
for download?  I can't seem to find anyplace to do it.

To those of you who asked for it, if I don't find a site in the next
day or two, I'll start emailing it.

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Mike,

> Let me know of any problems or criticisms.

It works fine here, thank you very much.

Kind regards

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Ron Stalma wrote:
>   I have been playing with various drivers, and found a driver that
> will create UMB's in a 64k EMS page frame window. Taking it a step farther,
> I found that by creating some ems using the emm200 driver along with the
> other program I can create a 64K UMB area and sucessfuly load drivers high
> into it.
> But, the ems200 does not seem to be compatable with the enhanced lim4.0
> standards, which while loading drivers high in this manner works, but not

Will the driver work with the EMS provided by TREMM on a 32M LX?

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:19:00 -0500, Beverly Howard wrote:

>A word of caution.  Be careful with these MapQuest maps.  For example,
>an airport shown in my local area is about 5 miles from it's actual
>location.

They seem to be using a strange projection - if you get a "John Glenn" =
zoom
of the Atlantic, you'll find the UK looking more or less correct but the =
US
is on its side! This might explain some anomalies I've noticed while =
trying
these maps with LXGPS. I suppose if you stick to fairly small ranges they
should be OK.

--=20
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:22:23 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> If your country, or countries you are interested in, are not currently a
> choice on the LXMapBlast address page, let me know. There are many
> countries available, and I don't have the time to look up the appropriate
> code for them all right now, but I will add requests as soon as possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Kopplin

I checked the site out and could not find Norway. Went to the orginal
site and found it.

Could you add Norway?

Will use my Lx for more "surfing" in the future.

Regards

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> Could you add Norway?
>
> Will use my Lx for more "surfing" in the future.

Added :-)

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              Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=444377254

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:39:32 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM>
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>This is a full size type I PCMCIA card that you put your smartmedia card
>in and then read it in a regular PCMCIA slot like on the HP200. No
>drivers are needed, it appears to be a regular ATA PCMCIA flash card to
>the computer. It even has a cute little eject button on the card and you
>can eject the SM card without taking the adapter out of the computer.
>The card is made by "Peripheral Snapz" (www.peripheral.com). I don't
>know what the biggest SM card that this will support is, but I used it
>with 4MB and 16MB cards. It is for 3.3v media only (most stuff is these
>days). Fully working when I stopped using it. I bought it about a year
>ago from wal-mart on line for $59.
>
>Terms. Price is $25 plus $3 to cover priority mail shipping to you.
>First e-mail takes it. I can ship to the USA only, sorry. I'll ship as
>soon as I receive your payment. I'm selling it "as is" but is was fully
>working when I used it last, and it does work in the HP200 and in my
>toshiba laptop, and in my desktop reader.

This is a good buy. FYI: I bought mine online from PC Connection.

http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=122567

>SmartMedia Type II Adapter     $39.95
>
>This adapter enables any Type II or Type III PC Card slot to read
>SmartMedia cards up to 128MB. Full functionality is retained with no
>performance degradation in a wide range of notebooks, digital
>cameras, and PC Card readers. The adapter is compatible with both
>3.3V and 5V solid state floppy disk cards (SSFDC).

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:22:31 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Patrick West wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=444377254

Wow... $10 shipping?!?!? As someone who sells full-time on eBay I should
let you know that you should be prepared for folks to email you about the
shipping charge. It seems like the folks that buy on eBay nowdays are
really picky about paying high shipping charges. If you want to take a
peek at what I charge for shipping, you can take a peek at the following
link that has my current crop of 'stuff' on eBay and as soon as I finish
this note I will be listing about 30 or 40 more items:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=palmtopcop&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:54:25 +0100
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:16:56 -0400,Brian McIlvaine
<brian.mcilvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM> wrote:

> Link is:
>=20
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D443439581
>=20
>=20
> Brian

But what a pity you won't sell to anyone outside the US...

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:45:44 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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For those folks selling LX stuff on eBay, don't limit yourself to just the
US. To export via the Postal Service all you have to do is fill out a CN22
slip that takes about 30 seconds and to figure shipping costs on the item
just visit usps.gov I sell overseas all the time and have met many fine
people, plus my shipping worldwide you really stand a chance of making
more $$$'s. You can accept payment via Billpoint, PayPal (next month) or
the bidders can use BidPay (bidpay.com). I love to ship items
internationally. In fact, I have an old globe and mark it with push pins
each time I ship something to a new part of the world :-)

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:56:18 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Donald Collins wrote:

> I would encourage any c++ programmers to see how I was able to read
> the format in Visual Basic & use this info to do the same in c++.
> The GDB format was intended to be read by a c application.

FWIW, gdbdump (on SUPER) does reads and writes on GDB databases and comes
with portable C source code.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:20:51 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: 200LX and EMS


> It's been many years since I concerned myself with ems and xms, etc.
> I don't even remember which is which anymore.  And I've never
> attempted to expanded memory on the 200lx.  Lot's of people have and
> I'm sure you'll get some answers.
>
> But I can give you some idea of what's in the 200lx that might help
> a little.
>
> There is no expanded memory (I'm going to call it ems to save
> typing.  Correct me if I have it backwards) onboard but there is a
> memory manager chip that maps memory to allow the use of the apps in
> rom and the use of ram and the ramdisk, etc. on a cpu that can only
> see one meg.  I don't remember the details but it's fully explained
> in the development kit from HP.

To make it short, my goal is to turn some of the expanded memory into UMB's
(Memory Blocks) where drivers can be loaded into the UMB's as I used to do
on my old XT which had an expanded memory board. It seems that I am half way
there, but am lacking info about the innards of the 200LX. The developers
kit sounds very interesting. Does anyone out there have a used HP developers
kit and would like to sell it? I see at Thaddeus they are are $79.00. Sounds
like I could have some fun here!

Ron

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:15:56 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> > Let me know of any problems or criticisms.
>
> It works fine here, thank you very much.

Mike and Stefan,

great new service to the palmtop community. No criticism, just
congratulations and a big thank you.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:25:16 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Alan,

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:07:13 -0400, "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM> wrote:

> If you have problems using PCMCIA devices with the Databook TMB series under
> Microsoft Windows 9x, it's probably due to a lack of available interrupts.
> On my wife's system I had to disable either the USB port or one of the
> serial ports to get back enough hardware interrupts (in fact someone else
> told me it should have IRQ5 available to give to devices that look like
> IDE/ESDI hard disk controllers).  Most modern BIOSes permit you to disable
> hardware on the motherboard.  Give this a try.

I have everything deactivated what I don't need.
Under Linux the drive works very well. Only in Windows it doesn't.
Windows sets the correct IRQ and I/O port for it, even when I try to
configure manually with the same settings as in Linux, it doesn't work.

I use IRQ 11 for the drive. And that one'6s definitelynot used by
another device.  ??

Thanks
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:51:50 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Country list in LXMapBlast

Mike Kopplin writes:
> If your country, or countries you are interested in, are not currently a
> choice on the LXMapBlast address page, let me know. There are many
> countries available, and I don't have the time to look up the appropriate
> code for them all right now, but I will add requests as soon as possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Kopplin
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>

What I saw was that of the two countries which I would be interested in (Israel
& Australia), the first isnt in LXMapBlast and the seccond is. However in
both cases the maps provided by Mapblast are not worth much, there is no
detail in the maps below the level of a State wide map. So before blasting
LxMpablast with lists of countries it might be an idea to check first that
the maps provided by Mapblast are worth getting!


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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:54:04 -0400
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:19:30 -0500
>From: Beverly Howard <Bev@BEVHOWARD.COM>
>Subject: Re: IR Connection to Win2K
>
>Sorry, but the short answer is that it's not worth it. See
http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html
for details

I have had good luck with the Aegis IR-HP5 connecting to WIN 95 and 98
systems using the serial port with transfile running on the WIN machine
and filer on the palmtop.

I have also had some success with the LiteLink system providing you
install their drivers.
If anyone is interested I have 2 litelink serial adaptors that I would be
willing to part with. More details should be on
http://www.parallax-research.com/index.html
but I don't seem to be loading the graphics on the site

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:29:42 -0700
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> This is high up on the geek scale!

:-)

> Any idea if the map display can convert an address to a latitude/longitude also
> (maybe displayed next to the address ... off the map)?

Not the way I am doing things currently. It would be possible to have
lat/lon included when doing address lookups, but would take a lot more
work.


> Now all we need are routing maps <g>.

This actually might be possible, but maybe not easy either.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:42:25 -0700
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With all the recent excitement caused by LXMapBlast, I forgot to mention
that I have updated my HPLX-L archives. I obtained digests from the old
list (thanks Russ) and have added them to the archives. They now go back
to September 12, 1996 when Mitch sent out the first message, which
of course was just one word, "test". :-)

There is a gap in what I have from March 20 to June 30, 1997 when Al took
over the list. Do any logs exist for this period?

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:42:08 +0100
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              "Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK>
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Dear Barry,

I'm also interested in the Norton Guide for 123. Why not signing up with
freedrive, idrive or one of the other web storage sites. I think you can
allow anonymous access to this type of accounts.

Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:02 PM
Subject: Lotus 123 Norton Guide


> I'm getting a lot of requests for the Norton Guide for 123.  But
> it's a large file and I don't want to email it to a lot of people.
> Does anyone have a site that I can upload it to make it available
> for download?  I can't seem to find anyplace to do it.
>
> To those of you who asked for it, if I don't find a site in the next
> day or two, I'll start emailing it.
>
> Barry
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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:35:02 +0100
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Hi all,

I'm new to this list and have just recently bought a HP 200LX. Having used
other Pamtops in the past and transfering files from the PC to the Palm
computers before, I habe problems with Transfile win 200. I hope someone
could help me.

From which side do I have to start the connection ? On the PC site inside
win 200 (connect to HP) or from the HP 200 LX Filer program. ?
If you have to start the connection from the HP 200LX, which is the correct
Function key inside the filer program ?
F6 (Remote) or F10 (Connect). Both function keys seems to start a
connection, but what is the difference.

When do I have to use the LapLink Remote progarm (on the application manager
screen) and what is the difference to the Filer connection ?

Inside the System setup there is the function key F6 (coomunication). What
are the correct values for IO Address (0000) and Interrupt (0). Is it
possible that this values are wrong and therefore I'm not getting a
connection to my PC.

Many thanks for your help in advance.

Frank

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:54:46 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian McIlvaine Ýmailto:brian.mcilvaine@unbounded.com¨
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 07:44
To: Peter Hayes
Subject: Foreign sale of HPLx


Peter-

I will sell to anyone on the HPLX list, if you are interested.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:31:47 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> It will be just as easy to contact hte ISS via 1200bps FSK packet as well as
> 2 meter FM voice. :) No fancy equipment is needed. All it takes is a FCC
> amateur radio license.

Good, that answers the question pretty well.  There is
probably some more formal description of the process
on the web, and I will search if I need further info.


> I am not where I can follow the links right now,

Links were for amusement only, and of course I forgot one.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000528.html

> so you may have to explain
> that question. Both the ISS and Mir circle the globe once every 90 minutes
> and at time are actually within sight of each other.

> Jeff

If the orbital inclinations were significantly different
there might be problems "seeing" the station long enough
to be useful/convenient.  If the altitude was signifcantly
different other problems in tracking or power requirements.
Obviously not.

Thank you

Steve
(who actually had some sort of radio license in college...)

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:50:56 -0400
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:31:47 -0400, Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:

> Good, that answers the question pretty well.  There is
> probably some more formal description of the process
> on the web, and I will search if I need further info.

AFSK = audio frequency shift keying

> If the orbital inclinations were significantly different
> there might be problems "seeing" the station long enough
> to be useful/convenient.  If the altitude was signifcantly
> different other problems in tracking or power requirements.
> Obviously not.

On an average day, you'll get about 6 usable passes (the same goes for most
LEOS). Out of these 6 two will be almost perfect overhead passes. A perfect
overhead pass lasts about 10 minutes from horizon to horizon. Mir is usable
as a repeater even at very low angles. I have worked it at 5 watts at angles
of 5 degrees.

Jeff

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Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:14:35 -0500 (EST)

NortonGuide for 123 is available temporarly by anon FTP to:

137.99.86.127 in the LotusNG directory

Cheers...AJKind

05h32m27s ago ...
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Frank M. Mattes wrote:

> Dear Barry,
>
> I'm also interested in the Norton Guide for 123. Why not signing up =
with
> freedrive, idrive or one of the other web storage sites. I think you =
can
> allow anonymous access to this type of accounts.
>
> Frank
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:02 PM
> Subject: Lotus 123 Norton Guide
>
> > I'm getting a lot of requests for the Norton Guide for 123.  But
> > it's a large file and I don't want to email it to a lot of people.
> > Does anyone have a site that I can upload it to make it available
> > for download?  I can't seem to find anyplace to do it.
> >
> > To those of you who asked for it, if I don't find a site in the next
> > day or two, I'll start emailing it.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>
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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:54:07 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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For routing maps, what's valuable to me is not the turn-by-turn details.

A map showing the From-To points, perhaps a general route, and a scale to
estimate the distance is often very useful for estimating driving
time/distance/direction on long trips to unfamilar destinations.  In Southern
California, I do a lot of drives like that (100-300 miles).

I usually print the street-level map of the destination also, but what's missing
there is a sense of how far away it is.

A definite would-be-nice, but offered only as a clarification of a suggestion
from an already satisfied customer.

- Longden





kopplin@technoir.nu on 09/20/2000 10:29:42 PM

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      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
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> Now all we need are routing maps <g>.

This actually might be possible, but maybe not easy either.

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Hi Frank.

It's been a while since I've used Transfile, but I believe the critical things
are to make sure both PC and LX are talking to the correct serial port (COM1 on
Filer/Communications/Remote Settings/Interface) and the same baud rate (I
believe 19200 is the fastest reliable link I've ever gotten).

The connection requires that the LX be in Filer mode (with all the above
settings in place), and the connect starts from the PC end in Transfile (HP
Palmtop/Connect to HP).

The "Connect" function on the LX is used for direct LX to LX, or to a PC via the
Connectivity Package (a software package like Transfile) ... and isn't used for
Transfile.

The Laplink remote built-in to the LX allows another PC (running Laplink) to
access the LX drives as tho they were native to the PC ... yet another
connection option, but an issue apart from Transfile.

And your values in System setup/communication are correct (at least those values
are the same as mine).

The usual problem with Transfile is a bad serial cable, or wrong settings for
Com port or baud rate.  If you continue to fail the connect, try dropping the
baud rate lower (on both ends).

Actual Transfile users may want to elaborate or correct the above.

- Longden





"Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK> on 09/21/2000 03:35:02 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to "Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  help with connection to PC



Hi all,

I'm new to this list and have just recently bought a HP 200LX. Having used
other Pamtops in the past and transfering files from the PC to the Palm
computers before, I habe problems with Transfile win 200. I hope someone
could help me.

From which side do I have to start the connection ? On the PC site inside
win 200 (connect to HP) or from the HP 200 LX Filer program. ?
If you have to start the connection from the HP 200LX, which is the correct
Function key inside the filer program ?
F6 (Remote) or F10 (Connect). Both function keys seems to start a
connection, but what is the difference.

When do I have to use the LapLink Remote progarm (on the application manager
screen) and what is the difference to the Filer connection ?

Inside the System setup there is the function key F6 (coomunication). What
are the correct values for IO Address (0000) and Interrupt (0). Is it
possible that this values are wrong and therefore I'm not getting a
connection to my PC.

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> What I saw was that of the two countries which I would be interested in
(Israel
> & Australia), the first isnt in LXMapBlast and the seccond is. However in
> both cases the maps provided by Mapblast are not worth much, there is no
> detail in the maps below the level of a State wide map. So before blasting
> LxMpablast with lists of countries it might be an idea to check first that
> the maps provided by Mapblast are worth getting!

FWIW, I found the Australia map useful, if for nothing more than getting a
geographical sense of where the cities are located.

I agree that such a map has only limited use, but even a similar map of Southern
 California cities (there are a lot) would be useful to gauge driving distance.

The current "add country on demand" seems sufficient as long as the requestor
realizes that the country may be lacking in detail.  This restricts the list
only to countries of even remote interest so Mike doesn't have to load maps for
McMurdo Station or Timbuktu (Mali).

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:54:06 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Lotus 123 Norton Guide
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Thanks Al.  Okay, so I downloaded the 3 .ZIP files.  Now what is supposed to
be done with them?  Only the LotusNG2.zip appears to be a valid .ZIP
archive.  I take it that means these files need to be appended together to
form a complete archive, but in what order?

>From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨
>Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:57 AM

>NortonGuide for 123 is available temporarly by anon FTP to:
>137.99.86.127 in the LotusNG directory

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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:29:51 +0200
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Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:21:47 +0200 (GMT)

Hi Mike & Stefan,

meanwhile I'm in the club too, a little late, but...
The MapBlast-, LXPic- and Gif.bat-bundle is terrific! As other guys
already said: Really outstanding! The HPLX has got another big push in
usability. This makes it again harder to find an equivalent replacement
for that little, genius toy.

So again, thanks a lot!

Kind regards,
Axel

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Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:10:52 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   Evidently there were some incomplete ZIP files in the LOTUS NG
   directory. If you have already downloaded the files, delete files
   lotusng.zip & lotusng1.zip, lotusng2.zip is the correct file.

   If there you only saw one file, lotusng.zip, then that file should
   OK.

   Cheers...AJKind

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Barry,

if it is freeware I can post it on my site, www.rundel.net/palmtop.
I can also email it to other people if necessary.

Tom


On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:02:13 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

 > I'm getting a lot of requests for the Norton Guide for 123.  But
 > it's a large file and I don't want to email it to a lot of people.
 > Does anyone have a site that I can upload it to make it available
 > for download?  I can't seem to find anyplace to do it.
 >
 > To those of you who asked for it, if I don't find a site in the next
 > day or two, I'll start emailing it.
 >
 > Barry
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I've sent it to someone who's going to put it up on his site.
Either he or I will announce on the list when it's up on is site.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@rfhsm.ac.uk>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Norton Guide


> Dear Barry,
>
> I'm also interested in the Norton Guide for 123. Why not signing
up with
> freedrive, idrive or one of the other web storage sites. I think
you can
> allow anonymous access to this type of accounts.
>
> Frank
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:02 PM
> Subject: Lotus 123 Norton Guide
>
>
> > I'm getting a lot of requests for the Norton Guide for 123.  But
> > it's a large file and I don't want to email it to a lot of
people.
> > Does anyone have a site that I can upload it to make it
available
> > for download?  I can't seem to find anyplace to do it.
> >
> > To those of you who asked for it, if I don't find a site in the
next
> > day or two, I'll start emailing it.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
> >
>
>

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Mike Kopplin wrote:
> There is a gap in what I have from March 20 to June 30, 1997 when Al took
> over the list. Do any logs exist for this period?

Unless there is another list I don't know about the answer is No.
As I remember, Mitch shut his list down rather suddenly and it was
awhile before Al came to the rescue with the current list.

Ya know... there's a lot of people that contribute to the HPLX community
and we publicly thank them from time to time when their tools, or
whatever, are being discussed.

I think it's been a while since Al got his and he definately deserves
it.  The HPLX-L list is maybe the most important 'thing' related to my
use of my 200LX.  Without the list (and all of you) I wouldn't find out
about the other tools and techniques that result in my current palmtop.

Thanks Al!

Cheers... Russ

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When a file is open and being written to by the system, is a particular
attribute set on it by DOS?
If so which one?
Thanks...
I am working on ftp'ing all the files in a folder except the one that is
actively being worked on.


Tim

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First, is there another program that IS using the com port?   Is the other Dos
window still open?  Even if the program has ended, if the window is still open,
the use flag is still up.

It's been too long....  There is an entry that you can make in SYSTEM.INI file
in the Ý386Enh¨ section.

find and edit or add a line for each com port thus;

Ý386Enh¨
COM1AutoAssign=0
COM2AutoAssign=0
COM3AutoAssign=0
COM4AutoAssign=0

This stops windows from mothering you with concern over having two programs
attempting to access the same port at the same time.
--
Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard



Bk361kb@aol.com wrote:

>
> Hi Bev:
> Off topic, but saw your note below on the list and thought you might be able
> (willing) to help.  Perhaps I have an IRQ problem.
>
> I have always used the HP Connectivity Pack100 (CP100), even tho I upgraded
> to the HPLX200.  However, I recently got & installed the CP200 program (in
> its own, separate directory), but now when I go to the dos window, and type
> "c:\cpack200", and then "app200", I get an error message: "app200: Another
> program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH. Please remove it & try again."
>
> (BTW the old CP100 program still works fine.)
>
> Do you have any idea what this error message means, and what I should do?
>
> TIA,
> Bill

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Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:10:02 +0200
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Is it possible to switch between connections from within WWW/LX?
I have a couple of connections that I switch between often, Phone,
irda and PPP to mochaPPP on my PC.
I have tried the "plug&play" dialer for Ww/lx that decides what
connection I use, but that one will not recognise the PPP connection to
my PC com1.

Do I have to quit www/lx and go to www/lx setup?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Mochappp

Tomas Moberg writes:
> Is it possible to switch between connections from within WWW/LX?
> I have a couple of connections that I switch between often, Phone,
> irda and PPP to mochaPPP on my PC.
> I have tried the "plug&play" dialer for Ww/lx that decides what
> connection I use, but that one will not recognise the PPP connection to
> my PC com1.
>
> Do I have to quit www/lx and go to www/lx setup?

Speaking of MochaPPP. Has anyone managed to get it working with LXTCP & LXMTA?
I can connect with LXTCP but I cant pick up email with it. I get timeout
messages (Mt LXTCP timeout is set to 120sec). No problem connecting directly
through a modem.

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I can view http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html ok with IE5.5
but on my hp200 i only get.

ÝIMAGE¨ for the HP200LX.

But nothing more. Its the only page I get.

ps I just took a visit to www.dasoft.com and its the same there. I can
only view the first line of text on their page.

      /tomas moberg
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> So before blasting LxMpablast with lists of countries
> it might be an idea to check first that the maps provided
> by Mapblast are worth getting!

I looked at Mapblast and found that there wasn't enough detail even
for my simple needs.  I've been using Yahoo maps which give quite a
bit more detail.  To get there just click maps from www.yahoo.com.
It's in the paragraph at the top (3 lines I think) that has so many
items it's hard to find one in it, but maps is in there.

Yahoo maps gives all of the same options as Mapblast except the PDA
download option.  But it's a simple matter to save the map as a gif
and do what you want with it in some graphics editor.  Anything that
will read GIF files.

Yesterday I played with combining some zoomed maps (with lots of
detail) into a larger map and it was fairly simple to do and there
results were good.  It took a little time but it was faster than I
expected.

I used Corel Photopaint but I'll bet that any of the small graphics
programs that come with digital cameras will do as well.

Barry

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>> Now all we need are routing maps <g>.

>This actually might be possible, but maybe not easy either.

I played with making routing maps last week when someone on this
list first gave the url of Mapblast.  I'm not sure if I used
Mapblast or Yahoo maps to do it.  I think both have that feature.
It was simple to do and pretty effective.  It looked as though it
had a purple line along the route made by a magic marker.

Barry

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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Tim Kelley wrote:

> When a file is open and being written to by the system, is a particular
> attribute set on it by DOS?
> If so which one?

In bare DOS, no.  DOS is not enherently a multi-tasking
system.  If you load SHARE, you _can_ lock access to a file.
Then if you try and open that file in a different process,
you will get an error.

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> I'm new to this list and have just recently bought
> a HP 200LX. Having used other Pamtops in the
> past and transfering files from the PC to the Palm
> computers before, I habe problems with Transfile
> win 200. I hope someone could help me.

I haven't used Transfile Win 200 in so long I really can't help so
you'll have to get that from someone else.  But I have found a much
faster and easier way to transfer stuff.

I have a flash card (if you don't have one yet you'll probably be
getting one soon) and I added a flash card reader (which writes
also) to my PC (SanDisc USB from Best Buy for $49).  I can remove
the flash card from the palmtop and plug it into the reader and it's
instantly seen by Windows as another drive.  Drive I: in my case.
Then I use Windows Explorer to move stuff.

The flash card is A: on the palmtop and if what I want to move is in
C: I just copy it to the root directory of A:.  For backups I use
pkzip to create a copy of C: on A: and then use Winzip on the pc
side to make a zip file of the entire contents of the card.  That
entire process takes less than a minute, much of which is just
fumbling.  I have a 40 meg flash card.  (Got it at Office Depot).

Transfile Win200 has a bug (unless it's been fixed, which I doubt).
When you transfer a file with it, it applies the current date to
that file.  It won't leave the date intact.  I stopped using
Transfile as soon as I found that out because file dates are the way
I keep track of some things.

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Barry wrote:

> I looked at Mapblast and found that there wasn't enough detail even
> for my simple needs.  I've been using Yahoo maps which give quite a
> bit more detail.  To get there just click maps from www.yahoo.com.

The maps at yahoo are just MapQuest maps in yahoo packaging. You are right
that MapQuest has much better coverage of many of the smaller countries. I
have suggested MapQuest to a number of people.

<snip>
> I used Corel Photopaint but I'll bet that any of the small graphics
> programs that come with digital cameras will do as well.

The whole idea behind LXMapBlast is a site which is compatible with WWW/LX
and HV, so that it can be accessed by the palmtop directly. When you're
at home sitting in front of your desktop computer you have a number of
options. This if for when you're not at home.

Regards,
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I received this from a customer.  Suggestions?  Thanks!

Gentlemen:
I just upgraded by 2MB to a 32MB LX200.  I am able to print memoes,
check registers, calenders, but NOT 123 Spreadsheets.  HP originally
gave me a setup string of:  \027(s0p16.66h  along with Baud Rate: 9600,
Interface: Com1 and Printer: HP LaserJet.  I get "Printer Error" when I
try to print.  The only difference in the two units is that in the
'Menu-Print-Printer', my old unit shows the Interface as: Ser.1 RS232
9600 and the new 32 MB unit shows theInterface as:  Parallel 1.  I can't
figure out how to get in to change it.  Help!  My workaround is to save
the 123  wk1 file to my Compaq 10MB Flash Ram Card and, then, print it
out of my old unit.  Thanks for
your help.

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In 123:

/WorksheetGlobalDefaultPrinterInt

This gets you to a numbered list of interfaces 1-8 ... "1" is "parallel 1" and
"2" is "Ser. 1 RS232"  (you can see this if you move the cursor to each number).
Just select "2".

Next set of numbers gets the baud rate ... "8" is 9600.  Then QuitQuit to get
out ....

- Longden






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I received this from a customer.  Suggestions?  Thanks!

Gentlemen:
I just upgraded by 2MB to a 32MB LX200.  I am able to print memoes,
check registers, calenders, but NOT 123 Spreadsheets.  HP originally
gave me a setup string of:  \027(s0p16.66h  along with Baud Rate: 9600,
Interface: Com1 and Printer: HP LaserJet.  I get "Printer Error" when I
try to print.  The only difference in the two units is that in the
'Menu-Print-Printer', my old unit shows the Interface as: Ser.1 RS232
9600 and the new 32 MB unit shows theInterface as:  Parallel 1.  I can't
figure out how to get in to change it.  Help!  My workaround is to save
the 123  wk1 file to my Compaq 10MB Flash Ram Card and, then, print it
out of my old unit.  Thanks for
your help.

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> In 123:
>
> /WorksheetGlobalDefaultPrinterInt


Longden comes through again!  I had pulled out an old Addison-Wesley
book I have on 123 v2.2 and was finding instructions to make setting
changes in the PGraph and or Install functions.  I knew that wasn't
right--appears the book wasn't revised too well from previous!

Ted

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Don't need no steenkin' manuals!

It probably helps to have grown up with 123 ... to know the world at the time of
v2.4 means you don't look for things like fancy graphics/font settings nor CSV
import/export.  But for something as ancient as printer setups, 123 will always
put the controls within your reach (ie not in print graph or install) ...
vociferous 123 users would have skewered Lotus otherwise.

- Longden





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> /WorksheetGlobalDefaultPrinterInt


Longden comes through again!  I had pulled out an old Addison-Wesley
book I have on 123 v2.2 and was finding instructions to make setting
changes in the PGraph and or Install functions.  I knew that wasn't
right--appears the book wasn't revised too well from previous!

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Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:56:24 -0500 (EST)

My Pleasure ;-)

It is the content that makes the HPLX-L, so Thanks really should go out
to all for making this a successful project!

Cheers...AJKind


16h04m38s ago ...
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Russel Brooks wrote:

> ...
> I think it's been a while since Al got his and he definately deserves
> it.  The HPLX-L list is maybe the most important 'thing' related to my
> use of my 200LX.  Without the list (and all of you) I wouldn't find out
> about the other tools and techniques that result in my current palmtop.
>
> Thanks Al!
>
> Cheers... Russ
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Tomas,

> Is it possible to switch between connections from within WWW/LX?
> I have a couple of connections that I switch between often, Phone,
> irda and PPP to mochaPPP on my PC.
> I have tried the "plug&play" dialer for Ww/lx that decides what
> connection I use, but that one will not recognise the PPP connection to
> my PC com1.

I do not understand your question - do you mean you want SETCOM to
determine which connection you want to make.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> I have tried the "plug&play" dialer for Ww/lx that decides what
> connection I use, but that one will not recognise the PPP connection to
> my PC com1.
>
> Do I have to quit www/lx and go to www/lx setup?

Not at all. Write down the names of the connections you want
to use, copy them from WWW.CFG. You will need exact spelling.

Now open Post/LX and go to Setup (CTRL-E from inside Post/LX,
or run pgm SETUP.EXE).

Press F8 to set up various externals etc. Select WWW. Scroll
to <new item>, press Enter. You will get two prompts. The
first one is the name of the item. Make it easy on yourself.
You can even put & in front of a letter in that name to make
it usable as a hot key. Example: I have one called &Quiet. It
tells the modem to shut up. When I want it, I rase the menu
(see later) and press Q).

Next field is the actual item you want to take effect.
Example: In the example of shutting up the modem, I have this:

 ModemInit=ATl0m0

Now press enter.

Next thing to know: Shift-F5 raises the menu of such items. To
shut up the modem, I press Shift-F5 and press Q.

Next thing to know: Ctrl-F5 brings up the CURRENT
configuration. Not all the items, but the important ones.

Here is the story behind the the story: WWW.CFG is in memory
and POST.EXE has access to it. Maybe you recall that to go
online you start like this:

www -d "!post.exe"

That brings in www.exe and it loads www.cfg in memory, then
spawns post.exe. Post.exe paints the email screen.

Ok, now what can you override: You can override anything in
memory in www.cfg. So for example if you want to switch from
one connection (ISPXYZ) to another (ISPABC) set up an item
which will simply name the SETUP Name as it appears in WWW.CFG
(that's why I had you write them down!)

If you want to override a parameter WITHIN the current setup,
then you name the parameter and give a new value.

Here is my own list to demonstrate... This appears in
POST.CFG! Remember, POST.EXE is in control and has the
visibility and can make these changes. What you cahnge on the
fly like this will NOT END UP in WWW.CFG that is on disk- it
is not a cheap way to edit WWW.CFG. It changes only the
in-memory copy of WWW.CFG.

ÝWWW¨
&Quiet=ModemInit=ATl0m0    This is the modem shut-up. See the parameter is
                           named in WHATEVER IS THE CURRENT setup!
Setup DA=DASOFT-OnNET      The left side is the name of the item. The right
                           side name setup which is in WWW.CFG as ÝDASOFT-OnNet¨
Setup CIS WLA310-575-4163=CIS    this names Setup CIS from WWW.CFG
Dial CIS 800-331-7166=Dial=atdt18003317166     This overrides the phone
                                               number to dial. Note that I
                                               have to repeat the command ATDT
                                               too, since this is part of the
                                               Dial= parameter
Hope this helps.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Mike,

> The whole idea behind LXMapBlast is a site which is compatible with WWW/LX
> and HV, so that it can be accessed by the palmtop directly. When you're
> at home sitting in front of your desktop computer you have a number of
> options. This if for when you're not at home.

Thank you again, I use it a lot on travel since it became available!

Please go ahaed with the next application, so we don't loose too much
time. <g>

Kind regards

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Subject:      Magnify

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Magnify program for
the HP200lx?  (NOT the free zooming program on palmtopper).

D&A refers you to their dealers, but no one seems to have it for sale.

Does anyone have a copy they'd like to sell??

                 Alan

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You could make it hidden before you open it and back to viewable when
you are finished.

There is no restriction on accessing and editing a hidden file... it
simply disappears from view unless specifically addressed.

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard


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Subject:      Fluff:  Warning!  Free cat shaped bar code scanner software
              tracks users and reports info?

Hi All,

The software included with the free cat shaped bar code scanners that are
being given away by Radio Shack right now is rumored to be invading the
privacy of it's users!  It seems to make sense since it sounds like they
are indeed affiliated with a company that maintains one of the largest
consumer databases in the country.

To check out an article about it, go to:

Privacy group slams Web tracking "cat"
http://two.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?y=e7a0HYqQ0U0DhrC

While I was checking out that URL, I noticed in the visitor notes that
one guy was offering "safe" shareware that will not report information
back to Digital Convergence about user's actions.  It supposedly allows
the user to output the scanned info into the application of the user's
choice.

That note has since scrolled off the list or was removed by someone, but
the URL to check that out is:

http://members.aol.com/powercntrl

I've downloaded the software for possible future use.  It took a while to
get the software, though.  The server seems to be extremely busy, so if
you want the software, keep trying.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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That's a good point.  However, gdbdump/gdbload can't create a database from
scratch because it doesn't define or read all record types.

Other record types include:
 page layouts (4 max)
 smart clip definitions
 subsets (filters)
 record tables used to speed up subset access

There may be other I've forgotten.

With the info contained in my code we can make a full featured replica of the
palmtop's built-in databases. (GDB, NDB, PDB, ADB)

My ultimate goal is to be able to access HPLX databases from VBA and to
syncronize data with the desktop applications.

Don.

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  Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:
> Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:56:18 +0200
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> To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>
> FWIW, gdbdump (on SUPER) does reads and writes on
> GDB databases and comes
> with portable C source code.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>

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No surprise there, methink. If the "cat" allows you to scan something, then see
a website associated with it, it goes to figure that this barcode went into some
system, with your "username" tagged to it, and spewed out a URL. Now there's
nothing that prevents their system from keeping these barcode/"username" pairs
for anything ranging from market surveys to special offers. On the other hand,
if I remember right, registration allowed you to only specify firstname (no last
name) and an e-mail address. But it wouldn't be that hard to go to a full name
from there and associate all that data with an individual and figure out all the
stuff they have scanned, which means that they most likely own that stuff,
allowing companies to actually draws a very precise profile (even if partial) of
your posession and deduct spending habits from there.

Scary shit, uh?

Philippe

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:00 PM
Subject: Fluff: Warning! Free cat shaped bar code scanner software tracks users
and reports info?


> Hi All,
>
> The software included with the free cat shaped bar code scanners that are
> being given away by Radio Shack right now is rumored to be invading the
> privacy of it's users!  It seems to make sense since it sounds like they
> are indeed affiliated with a company that maintains one of the largest
> consumer databases in the country.
>
> To check out an article about it, go to:
>
> Privacy group slams Web tracking "cat"
> http://two.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?y=e7a0HYqQ0U0DhrC
>
> While I was checking out that URL, I noticed in the visitor notes that
> one guy was offering "safe" shareware that will not report information
> back to Digital Convergence about user's actions.  It supposedly allows
> the user to output the scanned info into the application of the user's
> choice.
>
> That note has since scrolled off the list or was removed by someone, but
> the URL to check that out is:
>
> http://members.aol.com/powercntrl
>
> I've downloaded the software for possible future use.  It took a while to
> get the software, though.  The server seems to be extremely busy, so if
> you want the software, keep trying.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
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Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:00:31 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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09-22-2000



Delkin Intros 256MB CF & 448MB CF2 Cards, USB Pocket Readers and New Line of
MultiMediaCards
 KOLN, Germany--Sept. 22, 2000--Delkin Devices, the leading innovator of
eFilm(TM) flash memory upgrades and memory related products, today increased
the capacity of its CompactFlash memory cards up to 256MB, and CompactFlash
Type II cards to an all time high of 448MB. These new eFilm CompactFlash
cards will be unveiled at the Photokina imaging show in Delkin's booth --
Hall 5.1 Aisle A, Booth 001 during September 20-25, 2000.

Delkin's larger capacity eFilm CF cards are designed to store the maximum
number of high- resolution images taken with today's larger megapixel
digital cameras. In addition, they can be used as a removable media for
handheld PC's. The eFilm CompactFlash Type II is a slightly thicker card at
5.0mm, therefore capable of storing more flash memory chips than Type I
(3.3mm) CF cards. Utilizing superior memory chip advancements, the ceiling
has been risen past 128MB to 256MB for Delkin's CompactFlash Type I and
448MB for Type II.

The latest CF/II compliant digital cameras like Nikon's D-1, FujiFilm S-1
Pro, and Canon S-20 produce extremely high megapixel images which take up an
enormous amount of memory capacity. Delkin's new 256MB CF & 448MB CF/II
cards are the perfect solution for shooting more images without having to
switch to a lower resolution setting to conserve memory space. These CF
cards come equipped with a new high-speed controller for transferring larger
image files faster, while still being 100% compatible with every CF
compliant device.


 http://www.steves-digicams.com/diginews.html

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:32:24 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Helmuth,

> Mike,
>
> > The whole idea behind LXMapBlast is a site which is compatible with WWW/LX
> > and HV, so that it can be accessed by the palmtop directly. When you're
> > at home sitting in front of your desktop computer you have a number of
> > options. This if for when you're not at home.
>
> Thank you again, I use it a lot on travel since it became available!

Which type of screen resolution do you choose for the palmtop ?
And I get "dark" images - is there a way to reverse the shading?

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:51:24 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Hans Peter,

> > > The whole idea behind LXMapBlast is a site which is compatible with WWW/LX
> > > and HV, so that it can be accessed by the palmtop directly. When you're
> > > at home sitting in front of your desktop computer you have a number of
> > > options. This if for when you're not at home.
> >
> > Thank you again, I use it a lot on travel since it became available!
>
> Which type of screen resolution do you choose for the palmtop ?
> And I get "dark" images - is there a way to reverse the shading?

It depends, I choose from 640 x 200 to 1280 x 1024. The pictures here
are black lines on white background.

I start saved images with a batchfile

   c:\bin\lxpic.com %1

LXPIC also offers some options, press F1.

When the picture is displayed using lxpic, what happens if you press
just 'i'?

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:41:47 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Hal Goldstein wrote:

> my old unit shows the Interface as: Ser.1 RS232 9600
> and the new 32 MB unit shows the Interface as:  Parallel 1.

just copy C:\_DAT\123.CNF from the old unit to the new unit,
then the customer will have identical 123 configuration.

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:43:23 -0500
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              Tim Kelley <kelley@WT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Mapblast vs Yahoo Maps
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you have to move off the image in order to get the image to appear without
the darkness. If you tab or push the down arrow, you will see the image
without the darkness.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Peter Staber" <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: Mapblast vs Yahoo Maps


> Helmuth,
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > > The whole idea behind LXMapBlast is a site which is compatible with
WWW/LX
> > > and HV, so that it can be accessed by the palmtop directly. When
you're
> > > at home sitting in front of your desktop computer you have a number of
> > > options. This if for when you're not at home.
> >
> > Thank you again, I use it a lot on travel since it became available!
>
> Which type of screen resolution do you choose for the palmtop ?
> And I get "dark" images - is there a way to reverse the shading?
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
>
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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:42:02 -0400
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              Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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From:         Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fluff:  Warning!  Free cat shaped bar code scanner software
              tracks users and reports info?
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The scanner does not invade your privacy, it requires several overt acts to
supply them with information:

1) You must install the hardware.
2) You must install the special software they supply.
3) You need to have a live internet connection, or one that can be accessed
dynamically.
4) You need to have the software running.
5) You need to get an object with a UPC code.
6) You need to scan the UPC code.

The profile they keep/can keep is only of the things you scan while
connected to the net and have their software running. Exactly where is the
suprise?

I am sorry, I just get very upset when these "wanna-be" crisises arise...
The timing of this offer from Radio Shack was too close to the DoubleClick
privacy issue, and people seem quick to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon.

The only way they will know you have any interest in Campbells Split Pea
Soup is if you walk into the kitchen, grab a can, scan the UPC (for what
purpose I have no idea), and let their software access the internet. What
did you think was going to happen?

Sorry, it just seems so logical, I can't understand the conspiracy theory...

If you want to scan bar codes with the "cat," simply install the hardware
and scan a barcode. The scanner simply sends a three-part message in the
keyboard port: scannerIDnumber:barcodetype:barcode information... - throw
away the first one, based on the second, interpret the third number
correctly...

Ken

----- Original Message ----- > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John J Vanderstel" <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:00 PM
> Subject: Fluff: Warning! Free cat shaped bar code scanner software tracks
users
> and reports info?
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > The software included with the free cat shaped bar code scanners that
are
> > being given away by Radio Shack right now is rumored to be invading the
> > privacy of it's users!  It seems to make sense since it sounds like they
> > are indeed affiliated with a company that maintains one of the largest
> > consumer databases in the country.
> >
> > To check out an article about it, go to:
> >
> > Privacy group slams Web tracking "cat"
> > http://two.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?y=e7a0HYqQ0U0DhrC
> >
> > While I was checking out that URL, I noticed in the visitor notes that
> > one guy was offering "safe" shareware that will not report information
> > back to Digital Convergence about user's actions.  It supposedly allows
> > the user to output the scanned info into the application of the user's
> > choice.
> >
> > That note has since scrolled off the list or was removed by someone, but
> > the URL to check that out is:
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/powercntrl
> >
> > I've downloaded the software for possible future use.  It took a while
to
> > get the software, though.  The server seems to be extremely busy, so if
> > you want the software, keep trying.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > John Vander Stel
> > Grand Rapids, Michigan
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:03:23 GMT
Reply-To:     stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch
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Why don't you put it on www.palmtop.net?
There is a section for 123.

-goe-

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:17:28 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Helmuth,

> When the picture is displayed using lxpic, what happens if you press
> just 'i'?

@$@&&)&¬)    never thought about the "i" ;-)

The actual problem was that I had a wrong path for the external LXPIC
call. Everything displays fine now.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:17:25 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Tim,

> you have to move off the image in order to get the image to appear without
> the darkness. If you tab or push the down arrow, you will see the image
> without the darkness.
>
>
> > Which type of screen resolution do you choose for the palmtop ?
> > And I get "dark" images - is there a way to reverse the shading?
> >
> > HP Staber/Salzburg

The online image of the map is illegible, whether the map is
highlighted or not. Thanks anyway.

I had the wrong path for lxpic in my HV.CFG. After fixing that the map
showed up fine while viewing with the external LXPIC.

Marvellous service :)

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Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:06:04 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

(2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
.

I also have  (1) 256K PC100 Dimm  in excellent condition for $145.00
plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:09:46 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeffrey Veiss <jsv@SIRVEISS.COM>
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From:         Jeffrey Veiss <jsv@SIRVEISS.COM>
Subject:      Spontaneous reboots.  Any ideas?
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Hi all!

I'm not sure if anyone else has ever had a similar problem.  For the
last few weeks, for no explicable reason, my 32M DS 200lx has been
spontaneously rebooting itself.  It's thoroughly annoying.  Unfortunately,
I haven't been able to reliably get it to reboot (other than ctrl-alt-del,
of course).

At first, I thought it started when I started to run a helvetica font
.com program from the autoexec.bat but it still happened when removed
it.  I've also tried removing the 10M Sandisk card for a while to no
avail.

Actually, what happens is I'm typing away, or switch an application,
then press a button (which mostly seems to be the ctrl or shift)
and it turns itself off.  When I press the on button, it reboots.

Any assistance as to how to troubleshoot this issue would be greatly
appreciated!

Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at
jsv@sirveiss.com.  Thank you very much!

Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@sirveiss.com)            102 Riverside Drive
Network Engineer/System Administrator       Cranford, NJ 07016
Sir Veiss, Inc.                             (908) 272-6640

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 02:17:43 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Spontaneous reboots.  Any ideas?
Comments: cc: jsv@SIRVEISS.COM

   >last few weeks, for no explicable reason, my 32M DS 200lx has been
   >spontaneously rebooting itself.  It's thoroughly annoying.
   >Unfortunately, I haven't been able to reliably get it to reboot
   >(other than ctrl-alt-del, of course).
   >At first, I thought it started when I started to run a helvetica
   >font ..com program from the autoexec.bat but it still happened when
   >removed it.  I've also tried removing the 10M Sandisk card for a
   >while to no avail.
   >Actually, what happens is I'm typing away, or switch an application,
   >then press a button (which mostly seems to be the ctrl or shift)
   >and it turns itself off.  When I press the on button, it reboots.
Message-Id: <20000924061754.TXZN4085.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.231.135¨>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 06:17:59 +0000

I've never had this problem, so this is just grasping at straws.

First, I'd chkdsk on the internal disk(s) and flashcard to make sure there
aren't any file problems, especially with any EMS or swap files.

OTOH, a shutdown while pressing the ctrl or shift key sounds like a power
fault of some sort.  Does plugging AC vs battery power make any difference?

The other thing I'd do is the LXative power ritual ... back up all your
data (and know how to restore it) ... and drain the system of all the juice
to erase all persistent memory (XBRAM?).  This will require removal of the
AA's and the backup battery, and then pressing and holding down the On key
for a minute (to drain the capacitors).  I've never done this with a 32mb
unit (I only have 8mb myself), so DO THIS ONLY IF YOU'RE CONFIDENT OF BEING
ABLE TO RESTORE THE UNIT from a vegetative state.

The last thing of course, is to send it in to the palmtop ER (Thaddeus).

Good luck.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:38:53 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Color images, which are not photos, often use pure colors to
display specific information, like for example green for forest
regions in maps, or red for volume in falling stock charts.

LXPIC by default displays 'mixed' color values, which means,
the red/green/blue values are weighted and then added. If the
normalized resulting value is below 0.5, the pixel is off,
otherwise on.

This sometimes makes pure light colors invisible. But you can
always see the complete information of the image by viewing
the extracted red/green/blue parts of the image using the R G B
keys. To go back to mixed display, press M.

This gives you an idea of what the image contains as information.
Often it is sufficient to decrease the brightness by several
presses on the 0 key to reveal "hidden" regions or lines of
the image.

Don't forget, in the worst case (true color image) LXPIC has to
map 16.777.216 colors to 2 colors (b&w). I'm still astonished
how good it works to simulate 16 mio. colors on the palmtops
screen.

Stefan

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:52:54 -0400
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              victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Victor Roberts <victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone have the last obsolete version of Nettamer for
              palmtops?
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I kept all the older versions of Nettamer when I was an active
user. However, I moved to WWW/LX and haven't updated my
Nettamer archives since version 9 or 9, which seem too old for
you.

I thought the Nettamer Web site had the older versions. Or you
can ask on the Nettamer list. Someone there is sure to have
kept the older versions.

Vic Roberts

On 10 Sep 2000 14:04:49 -0700, John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> I've discovered a problem that I suspect to be a newly introduced bug in
> latest version of Nettamer for palmtops.

Ýsnip¨

> Al Kind was kind enough to give me an old version of Nettamer for
> palmtops a while back to compare, but the version he gave me was too old
> to function properly any more.

Ýsnip¨

> The newest release of Nettamer for palmtops that I've discovered the
> problem in is
> n1112pt.zip.  If you have the release before that, please attach that zip
> file to an email to jvander800@aol.com. ( That email account can handle
> file attachments much easier.)
> By comparing the two versions, I should be able to determine if the
> problem is indeed a newly introduced bug that would require priority
> attention by the author of Net tamer.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:36:20 -0700
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Scott wrote:
>
> (2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
> One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> .

----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hello Scott!

It seems, that you have enough 24  Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks,
so I could get 2 24 MB for my $70.00, as you announced at the beginning
of our thread, isn't it?

                Klaus.
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> Why don't you put it on www.palmtop.net?
> There is a section for 123.

Both the 123.ng help file and ng.exe are copyrighted software.
Neither has been available for sale for years so I don't feel bad
about sharing it.  But it isn't actually legal and I guess I
assummed that www.palmtop.net wouldn't want it.  But I'd be happy to
upload it there if I'm wrong.

Personally I think the principle that software should be available
is a very important one.  Software is like art and literature.  It's
about ideas and it becomes part of our culture and our heritage and
our civilization.  Once nobody is distributing it, it should be
publicly available.  In fact I think our copyright laws should
stipulate that if something is not distributed for some period, say
a year, it becomes public domain.

In the meantime, we have to be judicious.  I might be willing to
perform an illegal act when I believe it's right, and I might
encourage others to think the way I think.  But I wouldn't cause
someone (like the owner of a website) to unknowingly distribute
copyrighted material.

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 17:45:23 +0200
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I have a desktop with an external modem.
I can share the modem with my hp200lx by runing comlink (s.u.p.e.r) on
the desktop (not on the hp200lx as intended).
The modem goes to the desktop pc COM2 and the hp200lx cable goes to
COM1.
When I run comlink on the desktop it is as if there were a modem on the
COM1 on the desktop pc. No need to switch the modem cable anymore.

And when I connect the desktop to the Internet I still have the hp200lx
cable on COM1 and instead for comlink I run MochaPPP and use that to
connect the hp200lx.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:00 PM
Subject: Fluff: Warning! Free cat shaped bar code scanner software tracks
users and reports info?


I would doubt that they are traking this information.  They would need a
computer the size of Texas to store all the information on people surfing
the web.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:03:43 +0100
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Tought this could be of interest to some:

A german student reprogrammed his GSM and succeeded to achieve very high
transmission speeds.

See:
 Der Spiegel: Interview met Sascha Haenel
 http://www.derspiegel.de/wirtschaft/maerkte/0,1518,87439,00.html
 Der Spiegel: Sch|ler erfindet billige Alternative zu UMTS
 http://www.derspiegel.de/wirtschaft/maerkte/0,1518,87037,00.html
 BerlinOnline: Alternative zu UMTS?

http://www.berlinonline.de/wissen/computer/wirtschaft/.html/200007/tewi31101
.html
 Jugend Forscht
 http://www.jugend-forscht.de/

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:18:48 +0200
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Hello Etienne,

Sunday, September 24, 2000, 7:03:43 PM, you wrote:

> A german student reprogrammed his GSM and succeeded to achieve very high
> transmission speeds.

It turned out to be a kind of 'hoax' from this guy:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml=3Furl=3D/newsticker/data/jk-13.=
08.00-002/default.shtml&words=3DHaenel

Wonder why these kind of rumours still spread...

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:21:24 -0700
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Donald Collins wrote:

>Anyone willing to help?

I will volunteer for parts of it. I have quite a bit of expertise now
on the format of GDB files, and some on the ADB files. I can tell you
that creating an ADB file will be the biggest challenge.

Another thing I know is how to read and write password-protected LX
files.

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Tomas,

> I have a desktop with an external modem.
> I can share the modem with my hp200lx by runing comlink (s.u.p.e.r) on
> the desktop (not on the hp200lx as intended).
> The modem goes to the desktop pc COM2 and the hp200lx cable goes to
> COM1.
> When I run comlink on the desktop it is as if there were a modem on the
> COM1 on the desktop pc. No need to switch the modem cable anymore.
>
> And when I connect the desktop to the Internet I still have the hp200lx
> cable on COM1 and instead for comlink I run MochaPPP and use that to
> connect the hp200lx.

Hm, I use my hp200lx for almost all my business relevant work. I
connect to the internet using a network card or modem. Occasionally I
switch on the desktop. I need it just the other way around. Do you have
any idea?

Kind regards

Helmuth.

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Curtis,

> Donald Collins wrote:
>
> >Anyone willing to help?
>
> I will volunteer for parts of it. I have quite a bit of expertise now
> on the format of GDB files, and some on the ADB files. I can tell you
> that creating an ADB file will be the biggest challenge.

Very true, and the more you know about ADB, the bigger the challenge
gets!

Kind regards

Helmuth

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:23 PM
Subject: Automatic emailed news and weather


> Hi.
> In the past, there were folks on this list who were able to
> receive daily emails of news, possibly taken from web sites
> which were then converted to text before emailing.

Locally WCVB TV Channel 5 Boston MA http://www.wcvb.com has a service where
they will e-mail daily updates of news, weather, and features.  Many other
radio and tv stations have a similar service available.

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> While I was checking out that URL, I noticed in the visitor notes that
> one guy was offering "safe" shareware that will not report information
> back to Digital Convergence about user's actions.  It supposedly allows
> the user to output the scanned info into the application of the user's
> choice.


Won't zomealarm accomplish the same thing?

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I have 1 used copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0 For Sale. On 3 1/2"
floppy. Includes the manual, Quick Reference Card, and flight charts.

Asking $20.00 which includes shipping within the continental United States.

Rodger

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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:58:37 -0400
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>Don't forget, in the worst case (true color image) LXPIC has to
>map 16.777.216 colors to 2 colors (b&w).

Not unless the image is at least 4096 by 4096 pixels, or equivalent,
and each pixel a different color <g>

A 640X200 image cannot have more than 128,000 colors (out of a 16M
palette, perhaps....).

>I'm still astonished how good it works to simulate 16 mio. colors on
>the palmtops screen.

Can't disagree here!

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Recently, someone was asking about a DOS-based, non-programming,
relational database application for use on the 200LX, and the subject of
Alpha 4 came up. I finally found the old copy of Alpha 4 that I had.

It's version 3, "Discovery Edition" -- whatever that is (?), and
includes the software on two 3 1/2 inch high-density diskettes, a
Reference manual and a Tutorial manual. I'd be willing to sell it for
$12, plus shipping. First come, first serve.

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Jim Saklad wrote:

> >Don't forget, in the worst case (true color image) LXPIC has to
> >map 16.777.216 colors to 2 colors (b&w).
>
> A 640X200 image cannot have more than 128,000 colors (out of a 16M
> palette, perhaps....).

that's true indeed, but this is not the way, how LXPIC works.
It does not do time consuming multiple passes through the image
to count and map colors. There is nothing to map. I know from
the very beginning that I only have black and white as result.
Hence output starts immediately after the first pixel line is
decoded. And in a true color picture the first pixel could have
color value 256x256x256 whereas the second could have color
value 0x0x0 or anything in between.

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Sorry if this is a FAQ...
My eyes just aren't what they used to me, I have to admit it (I'm
43). I've been reading some books on the HP200 in 80 col mode
using "list", but I feel stupid with the palmtop pressed up
against my face. Is anyone aware of a reader program that would
work in the zoomed mode on the HP at 40 columns? Mode co40 does
not look as good as the zoom mode, and the text is not formatted
for 40 col. Ideally, such a reader would use 40 col, and also
would wrap text on the screen. I might try to write one, but it
seems that this must have come up before. Bryan

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Jeffrey,

"Spontaneous" rebooting could be the result of the palmtop
sensing an extremely low battery. Here is a possible scenario:
You have a pc card that requires a lot of power to write. You
also use batteries that have extremely high internal
resistance (I believe Duracel may be one such brand). When the
battery is relatively low (but not so low to require
replacement - you'd still see a good voltage, say 2.51V) and
you write to the pc card, the battery "refuses" ro provide the
needed power and its voltage drops waaaay down, below the
palmtop's minimum required operational voltage. This can
happen very quickly, say a second or two.

The palmtop "interprets" this voltage drop as no power in the
main battery and shuts down.

The battery, now relieved of the power drain, now recovers
pretty quickly, and the palmtop now sees sufficient power to
operate, and it reboots.

I highly doubt a program can cause this power drain, although
programs are known to be able to cause a reboot.

Since you say you removed the disk drive, there is a
possibility of some spurious short on the motherboard or
peripherals. When you removed the disk, did you run normally
and done the operations you usually do, except without disk?
In other words, did you get that failure when the pc card was
not in the machine?

Jeffrey Veiss wrote:

> I'm not sure if anyone else has ever had a similar problem.  For the
> last few weeks, for no explicable reason, my 32M DS 200lx has been
> spontaneously rebooting itself.  It's thoroughly annoying.  Unfortunately,
> I haven't been able to reliably get it to reboot (other than ctrl-alt-del,
> of course).
>
> At first, I thought it started when I started to run a helvetica font
> .com program from the autoexec.bat but it still happened when removed
> it.  I've also tried removing the 10M Sandisk card for a while to no
> avail.
>
> Actually, what happens is I'm typing away, or switch an application,
> then press a button (which mostly seems to be the ctrl or shift)
> and it turns itself off.  When I press the on button, it reboots.
>
> Any assistance as to how to troubleshoot this issue would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at
> jsv@sirveiss.com.  Thank you very much!
>
> Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@sirveiss.com)            102 Riverside Drive
> Network Engineer/System Administrator       Cranford, NJ 07016
> Sir Veiss, Inc.                             (908) 272-6640
>
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<< In a message dated 23-09-2000 10:46:15 PM CST, jsv@SIRVEISS.COM writes:

 << Actually, what happens is I'm typing away, or switch an application,
  then press a button (which mostly seems to be the ctrl or shift)
  and it turns itself off.  When I press the on button, it reboots. >>

           How about a loose connection near the keyboard? Of course the
whole
 thing is near the keyboard.
           While we are on the subject of bad connections; is it at all easy
 to firm up a loose connection to the LCD screen? I keep loosing a verticle
 line of pixels on the far left of the screen and it is driving me crazy. I
 hesitate to take it apart lest I make matters worse.

 Phil N.

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Bryan Biggers wrote:
> My eyes just aren't what they used to me, I have to admit it (I'm
> 43). I've been reading some books on the HP200 in 80 col mode
> using "list", but I feel stupid with the palmtop pressed up
> against my face. Is anyone aware of a reader program that would
> work in the zoomed mode on the HP at 40 columns? Mode co40 does
> not look as good as the zoom mode, and the text is not formatted
> for 40 col. Ideally, such a reader would use 40 col, and also
> would wrap text on the screen. I might try to write one, but it
> seems that this must have come up before. Bryan

Bryan, have you tried VR, Vertical Reader, on SUPER?
It has a number of fonts that you can choose to adjust readability.

Cheers... Russ

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Jim,

Jim Saklad wrote:
> >Don't forget, in the worst case (true color image) LXPIC has to
> >map 16.777.216 colors to 2 colors (b&w).
>
> Not unless the image is at least 4096 by 4096 pixels, or equivalent,
> and each pixel a different color <g>
>
> A 640X200 image cannot have more than 128,000 colors (out of a 16M
> palette, perhaps....).

But LXPIC still has no idea _which_ 128,000 to map, and has to
account for all 16M of them. Stefan sis not say the image
_has_ 16M, but that LXPIC has to _map_ 16M colors into 2.

But, like you, I am also nitpicking <G>...

I am in awe each time I use LXPIC and it gives me great
pleasure to watch people's eyes grow to saucer size when they
see an image unfold on the screen!

Thanks, Stefan for providing this kind of cheap thrill to me
on a regular basis :) ...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Anybody know the line voltage in India? I checked www.roadwarrior.com
and it looks like the European 2 prong adapter will do. Phone jacks
seem to be the British type. Someone wouldn't know if there are any
free ISPs or any that are easy to join for a month ? There are no
compuserve or attglobal.net nodes as far as I can tell.

Are there any internet caf=E9s in the main cities - New Delhi, Bangaloe,
Bombay and Calcutta?

TIA for any info!

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Hi

>Donald Collins wrote:
>
>>Anyone willing to help?
>

I'd be willing to do some stuff, although time is a bit of an issue.

I'm mainly a VB programmer with a bit of rutsy C and a little C++.
I've got some experience of reading ADB files and communicating with
my 100LX. I wrote an ADB to Outlook converter for myself, but I didn't
realese it since Curtis Cameron came up with a more complete solution.
I'm currently trying to port the LXTools communication suite into a
COM object so that I can use it in other applications easily, but
given time issues and rusty C++ this is progressing very slowly.

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> I'm not sure if anyone else has ever had a similar problem.  For the
> last few weeks, for no explicable reason, my 32M DS 200lx has been
> spontaneously rebooting itself.

I had this happen when I was using alkaline batteries.  My flash card =
produced
a short, but significant drain on the batteries when accessed.  This =
would drop
the battery voltage temporarily, but it was enough to reboot the palmtop. =
 The
reboots would happen even when the batteries were fairly full.

Now I use NiMH rechargeables and I don't have this problem

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Perhaps someone can help.

When using Post/LX, some of my Digests (mostly from eGroups, but I think
I've seen others), have the characters "=20" in place of every "space". Any
ideas what this is?

Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:25:49 +0200
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Subject:      Re: A tip for Your desktop PC.
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>

Tomas Moberg writes:
> I have a desktop with an external modem.
> I can share the modem with my hp200lx by runing comlink (s.u.p.e.r) on
> the desktop (not on the hp200lx as intended).
> The modem goes to the desktop pc COM2 and the hp200lx cable goes to
> COM1.
> When I run comlink on the desktop it is as if there were a modem on the
> COM1 on the desktop pc. No need to switch the modem cable anymore.
>
> And when I connect the desktop to the Internet I still have the hp200lx
> cable on COM1 and instead for comlink I run MochaPPP and use that to
> connect the hp200lx.

Which software on the hp200 are you running with MochaPPP. I have tried running
LXTCP & LXMTA and I cant get LXMTA to work. ( I can get LXTCP to connect
though).

Will MochaPPP work under WIN NT4? W2K?


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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Is anyone aware of a reader program that would
> work in the zoomed mode on the HP at 40 columns? Mode co40 does
> not look as good as the zoom mode, and the text is not formatted
> for 40 col.

I'm not sure what you want a reader for but if it's for etext you
can use VR with large fonts.  If I remember right, some fairly large
ones are avaialable.  VR uses graphics mode so the number of columns
isn't an appropriate measure, but I think you can achieve the same
thing or better.  And it does wrap.

It'll read any text file.

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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:09:48 +0100
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              Richard McEvoy <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE>
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Thanks Devon, I have had no time to follow this up, but I'll get around to
it. Thanks also to Alan, Mark and Russel.

Richard

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From: Devon <bobcaar@CYBERDUDE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Off topic - Monitors


> A new VGA monitor is backwards compatible with a EGA card.  They use the
> same analog technology.  CGA and MDA use TTL signals.  Some EGA monitors
> (older NEC multisync monitors mainly) are also forward compatible with VGA
> resolutions and colours.  A simple adapter will work.
>
>         T.H.x.
>                 Devon
>

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Thanks to all for the suggestions!
I've ended up trying VR and  a think called Quickview that I
found on SUPER. Quickview isn't bad, but it is a systems manager
application, and I am a straight DOS guy with my HPLX. VR is a
very impressive program, and the bigger fonts are just what I
need. I do wish that they was a way not to use it in the
"vertical" mode, the lines are quite short when you use the
larger fonts. Bryan


Barry wrote:
>
> > Is anyone aware of a reader program that would
> > work in the zoomed mode on the HP at 40 columns? Mode co40 does
> > not look as good as the zoom mode, and the text is not formatted
> > for 40 col.
>
> I'm not sure what you want a reader for but if it's for etext you
> can use VR with large fonts.  If I remember right, some fairly large
> ones are avaialable.  VR uses graphics mode so the number of columns
> isn't an appropriate measure, but I think you can achieve the same
> thing or better.  And it does wrap.
>
> It'll read any text file.
>
> Barry
>
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I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?

Thanks,

Marc

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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:07:47 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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On all my XJ modems (but I don't have the 2144), adding "M0" (that's M and zero)
to the init string will silence the modem.

My typical string is "AT&FM0"

- Longden





Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> on 09/25/2000 12:59:19 PM

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Subject:  Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem



I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?

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I noticed a strange happening this weekend on my palmtop.  I was using
my vim editor to prepare some text files, when I noticed that the editor
was acting *very* slow when I would try certain operations, like inserting
a new line.  I believe that many vi editors keep a record of your operations
on the swap file, and I'm guessing that my flash-disk (Simple Tech 160MB)
accesses were suddenly slowing down noticably.  I re-booted, and this
didn't seem to make a big difference.  Today when I started to write this
letter, I went to do some experiments first (like trying RAM and FLASH
disks and comparing the qualitative results).  And I could not replicate
the slow behaviour.  Any thoughts?  Anything that would suddenly cause
the flash disk to become real slow all of a sudden?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:21:18 -0400
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              Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
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On my XJ 14.4 modem (I don't remember the model number),
"M0" turns off all of the noises *AFTER* the dial tone,
which I can't seem to kill off.

This is mostly a problem when I have to dial access codes with
commas to get to an outside line.
In that case, listening to a two second dial tone gets really anoying,
especially for the folks on the other side of the wall.

/jack

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From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem


>On all my XJ modems (but I don't have the 2144), adding "M0" (that's M
and zero)
>to the init string will silence the modem.
>
>My typical string is "AT&FM0"
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> on 09/25/2000 12:59:19 PM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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>      to zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET
>
>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
>Subject:  Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem
>
>
>
>I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
>palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?
>
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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:39:05 +0100
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 Having written a suite of programs in VS APL (time sharing on an IBM
mainframe in the early '80's) I must say I didn't experience your keyboard
"nightmare" David. The trickiest part AFAIR was programming text. It was
such a powerful number-cruncher that I got STSC's APL*PLUS v. 6.2 in '87 for
my IBM XT. (BTW, did Manugistics take over STSC?) Still no problem with the
keyboard.
A single line of APL did more than a page or two of Basic. The only danger
was getting too clever by half one day and having difficulty figuring out
the code next day; so you learned to document it.   I haven't used it since
I migrated from the XT, but I keep thinking I'll find a use for it on my
200LX. The symbols could be written on the LX, and on the risers of the
Newton keyboard - where the decals are on my old XT .

Richard

Originals:
Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez >
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Dos Capability: APL on iPAQ vs. HP200Lx
David Ness: (Sept. 10)
 > >I decided to use Manugistics APL*PLUS (Version 11.0)

>>Keyboard has always been a "nightmare issue" for APL

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Wild speculation?  Maybe vim used a swapfile on a spot on the flash card that's
marginal (ie, getting enough read/write errors to force retries).

A new vim session might be using a swap file in a different area.

Maybe scandisk or some other surface testing utility can verify this?

- Longden





Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> on 09/25/2000 01:17:01 PM

Please respond to Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Sudden Slowdown



I noticed a strange happening this weekend on my palmtop.  I was using
my vim editor to prepare some text files, when I noticed that the editor
was acting *very* slow when I would try certain operations, like inserting
a new line.  I believe that many vi editors keep a record of your operations
on the swap file, and I'm guessing that my flash-disk (Simple Tech 160MB)
accesses were suddenly slowing down noticably.  I re-booted, and this
didn't seem to make a big difference.  Today when I started to write this
letter, I went to do some experiments first (like trying RAM and FLASH
disks and comparing the qualitative results).  And I could not replicate
the slow behaviour.  Any thoughts?  Anything that would suddenly cause
the flash disk to become real slow all of a sudden?

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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:44:38 -0500
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jack Schudel wrote:

> On my XJ 14.4 modem (I don't remember the model number),
> "M0" turns off all of the noises *AFTER* the dial tone,
> which I can't seem to kill off.

Try adding "S22=112" to your init string.

Ted

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Marc,

use ATM0L0 as modem init string, or add M0L0 to the modem init
string that you are currently using.

Tom
www.rundel.net/palmtop


On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:59:19 -0700, Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

 > I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
 > palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Marc

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:45:44 -0500, Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> wrote:

> For those folks selling LX stuff on eBay, don't limit yourself to just the
> US. To export via the Postal Service all you have to do is fill out a CN22
> slip that takes about 30 seconds and to figure shipping costs on the item
> just visit usps.gov I sell overseas all the time and have met many fine
> people, plus my shipping worldwide you really stand a chance of making
> more $$$'s.

> You can accept payment via Billpoint, PayPal (next month)

Are you sure? I have emailed the Paypal guys over and over again, but I
have not gotten them to answer when they will launch there service here
in Norway/Europe. They told me some time ago that in february they
would launch something..now it is _not_ february :-(

I had to use Iescrow.com to get money to Mike on the list. Paypal is
easyier to use. Iescrow was $2 and a lot of confirming and shit to get
the money on its way.. (Mike have you gotten the money yet?)

> or
> the bidders can use BidPay (bidpay.com). I love to ship items
> internationally. In fact, I have an old globe and mark it with push pins
> each time I ship something to a new part of the world :-)

Do you have any interesting stuff that  might like? :-)

Regards

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:25:08 +0200, "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Stefan,
>
> I like to share your comments! It is a pleasure to read your words, I
> have nothing more to add.
>
> And again, there are the applications, which make the hp200lx valuable
> for me in the daily use.
>
> Great, this opens the horizon again for me.
>
> Thank you very much and to all of you in this community.
>
> Kind regards

I would like to thank the guys involved..I hope they will stay with us
for a long time.. Hail the Hplx :-))

I have not tried the Mapblast with my Hplx yet, but I have tried it on
my desktop before the screen malfunctioned :-(. But I had my Hplx so
everything is okey :-)

Best regards

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              tracks users and reports info?

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Hi Ken,

>> While I was checking out that URL, I noticed in the visitor notes that
>> one guy was offering "safe" shareware that will not report information
>> back to Digital Convergence about user's actions.  It supposedly
allows
>> the user to output the scanned info into the application of the user's
>> choice.
>
>Won't zomealarm accomplish the same thing?

What is "zomealarm"?  I've never heard of it.  Please elaborate, Ken. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Zonealarm is a shareware software firewall.  It is free to
noncommercial users.  It can be found at www.zonelabs.com
Cheers
Tony.

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Hi Ken,

>> While I was checking out that URL, I noticed in the visitor
notes that
>> one guy was offering "safe" shareware that will not report
information
>> back to Digital Convergence about user's actions.  It
supposedly
allows
>> the user to output the scanned info into the application of the
user's
>> choice.
>
>Won't zomealarm accomplish the same thing?

What is "zomealarm"?  I've never heard of it.  Please elaborate,
Ken. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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First of all, thanks for all the responses...

Adding M0 to the string, does quiet the modem... AFTER the dial-tone as
mentioned below.  I tried adding S22=3D112 to the string as well, but the
dial tone is still there.  What does S22=3D112 actually do?

Marc

> On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jack Schudel wrote:
>
> > On my XJ 14.4 modem (I don't remember the model number),
> > "M0" turns off all of the noises *AFTER* the dial tone,
> > which I can't seem to kill off.
>
> Try adding "S22=3D112" to your init string.
>
> Ted
>
> --
> Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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I could establish an irda connection via www/lx but i was under the
impression that it acted as a modem, like the webphones.  Does anyone know
if this is true.  I could never dial with it.

Tim

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Great service, Martin!

I have found that when I have the following in my HV.CFG, that
I can view the maps very nicely with the HV/LXPIC combination:

ÝSystem¨
; Set this to "Yes" if inline GIF images should be shown.
GIF=3DYes
; Use LXPIC.COM by Stefan Peichl for rendering inline images
LXPIC=3DYes

ÝViewers¨
; In this section you can specify file extensions (in upper case!) and =
actions
; that should be done when a file with this extension is encountered. The
; special token "%s" is replaced by the file name
JPG=3DLXPIC %s
GIF=3DLXPIC %s

When I get the map, it appears as a thumbnail much smaller than
the screen and it is reverse video because the cursor is on it.
 I just press Enter and I get the prompt to spawn the external
viewer.  Then LXPIC kicks in and views the map full screen. And
Esc gets me back to HV.

The only problem I have is after returning to HV, the thumbnail
is all screwed up as is other stuff on the screen that was fine
before launching LXPIC.  I don't know why.


Stan

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Subject:      Re: Faking UMB's
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Ron Stalma <rstalma@ZTRAIN.COM> wrote:

> But, the ems200 does not seem to be compatable with the enhanced lim4.0
> standards, which while loading drivers high in this manner works, but =
not
> for long before a conflict an a resulting crash!

If the thing that creates fake UMB's needs LIM4.0 and EMS200
does not provide then, then that might be part of the problem.
I know that EMS200 is not fully 4.0 compatable.  I think this
would require a better processor.

The palmtop is very similar to an XT achitecture, but there are
some important differences.  The operating system and all ROM
programs are a special kind of code that is XIP (eXecute In
Place) meaning that the ROM programs execute right out of the
ROM and are not loaded into RAM to run.

This fancy footwork is done by the special bank switching
hardware and software that works similar to the way EMS does to
make more memory available to view in 16K pages at a time.

I think your crashes could be happening because the OS is bank
switching the ROM and the UMB faker is trying to bank switch
the EMS as part of the OS because of the drivers there and they
may be srewing eachother up.


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Subject:      Re: DSL with the palmtop?
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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> does anyone here use a DSL onnection to the internet with the palmtop?

I have not actually used DSL, but I have something very similar
set up at home.  I have a 3COM LAN Modem which is a DHCP
server, network hub and 56K modem together in one box.  When
one of my desktop's on the network at home wants to go online,
somehow automagically, it contacts the LAN modem, the modem
dials the ISP and then the computer is on the Internet.  This
works for all four of my Win95/98 computers at home.

I can plug a network card into the 200LX and do the exact same
thing when going online with WWW/LX.  The palmtop gets it's IP
address and gateway info from the DHCP and so then it uses the
LAN modem to access the Internet.  Works great and is faster
then using an external modem on COM1 of the palmtop.

I suspect a DSL modem would work in very much the same way. The
computers on the network with the DSL modem would see it as the
gateway to the Internet.  Just make sure you have the ability
to have multiple computers access the DLS modem - some of them
are for single computers only.


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Subject:      Re: 200LX and mobile phones
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"James Henry" <jhenry@comcastwork.com> wrote:

> Do you think this might also wok with the Motorola i1000+ IDen (Nextel)
> phone?  It too has the built in wireless modem. Nextel tells me it will =
only
> work with their own online service but I don't see why that is

I really don't know.  I would suspect that if they say this,
then it might very well be true.  The Motorola StarTAC says
very specifically that is will work with any computer and any
software for any online work.  It is not just for connecting to
the Internet.  I have used it to dial into the minicomputer at
work with DataComm as a simple terminal emulator.

The phone you are talking about may not be using the regular
digital CDMA for data, but the CDPD data packet switching that
is a whole different animal and is only available from the
specific provider.


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Subject:      Re: 200LX and mobile phones
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Adriaan van Nijendaal <adriaan@wanadoo.be> wrote:

> >No.  PCS here in the USA using the same 1900 MHz frequency as
> >GSM, but the protocol is regular old CDMA that is used by many
> >digital phones on the 800 MHz band.
>
> Are you sure? I own a Nokia 2190 phone that was sold to me by Pac Bell,
> called Digital PCS. It takes my European GSM SIM card and actually =
works in
> the US

Adrian, no I am not so sure.  It could be that your phone does
both GSM and regular CDMA depending on the service in the area.
 All that I know for sure is that my Motorola StarTAC tri-mode
phone is AMPS (analog @ 800MHz), CDMA (digital at 800 MHz) and
PCS (CDMA at 1900 MHZ) but says nothing whatever about GSM.


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<Bk361kb@aol.com> wrote:

> Could you please advise details of the cable you mention & where you =
got it?

I got the connectivity cable for my Motorola tri-mode StarTAC
7868 phone right from the same Verizon Wireless store where I
got the phone.  You can also get it from just about any place
that sells accessories for the StarTAC phones.  I don't know
the Motorola model number, but it is the comms cable and
TrueSync sofware for the ST7868W phone.  It costs about $100,
if I remember.


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Subject:      Re: 200 LX and Motorola StarTAC CDMA
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Bill Krauss <Bk361kb@AOL.COM> wrote:

> I have a StarTAC CDMA also & would love to try to use it w/ 200LX.  But =
I
> doubt that Motorola will make anything that easy!  My local Sprint =
office
> (StarTAC servicers) are not exactly proficient technically

For me, it was incredibly simple.  It all worked as advertised
the first time! I almost fell out of my chair.  When I was
reading the literature about this stuff, I thought it was too
good to be true that the phone would work with any software and
any computer for any online work.  I talked to the guys in the
store, I talked to Motorola Tech Support and I talked to
Verizon Wireless Tech Support and they were all correct!

But you don't just need any CMDA StarTAC, but one with the
built-in minibrowser.  This is what enables it to send the data
over the digital connection as if there was a modem in the
phone.  And this kind of activity is enabled by an extra charge
from the cel provider.


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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:32:10 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Connecting in India
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Tony,

Scitor/Equant used to run in India.

Are you going to travel to India? When?

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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:32:14 -0400
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I see it often on emails of customers. It seems to denote
carriage return. Has to do with the way the server encodes the
emails.

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Subject:      Re: Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem
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After the modem initialization string you have, add this:

ATxxxyour initi stringxxxxxL0M0

That is L-zero and M-zero. M0 is probably enough, shutting up
all the speaker function, at any time, while the L simply
signifies the volume level at 0...

  Avi

> I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
> palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?

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Subject:      Re: Fluff:  Warning!  Free cat shaped bar code scanner software
              tracks users and reports info?
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Tandy Corporation operates many little baby-Tandies
From Tandy Leather Goods to the famous Radio Shack Store
(That we 'everyone in computers or electronics' have a love-hate
relationship)
From the mass marketing of the TRASH 80 (TRS-80)
(Preceeding the HP200LX by many years and bulky)
And they have a custom database of almost everyone living,
Specially if you purchased anything from them,
The Clerk with a smile asks for your Name, and the "Last FOUR digits"
of your telephone number.
And magically when the receipt is printed the only thing missing is your
Blood Type,
Social Security Number, and Driver License.
It is also a source for "nosy people" to get  Full Listing  of persons
with:
Unlisted names and telephone numbers and addresses.
All you have to do is provide with TWO variables (or ONE: the telephone
Number)
You can get the THIRD printed on the RECEIPT with your purchase.
And if you have a hard time believing try to purchase an item on "CASH"
basis.
The Clerk will almost have a heart attack when you will kindly refuse to
divulge your name.
I neither condone nor condemn the practice.
They are not the only company nor corporation to practice the same.
All the Internet did is: FASTER, MORE ACCURATE (since the C:CAT takes the
name
from your Computer Registry -owner name, not what you only provide)
If you are paranoid and refuse to interact,
you also have the inalienable right to live like hermit


> Zonealarm is a shareware software firewall.  It is free to
> noncommercial users.  It can be found at www.zonelabs.com

Another route is:
goto www.cnet.com then Downloads search for ZoneAlarm
for free D/L

(This message is send with The First Amendment in mind and for
educational purposes only; the author is not responsible for immoral,
illegal acts you may commit by interpreting this message,
and it is ONLY AN opinion)

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> I would doubt that they are traking this information.  They
> would need a computer the size of Texas to store all the
> information on people surfing the web.

Texas?  Hold on thar, cowpoke! Have you heard of DoubleClick?
Their business is doing just that.  3.5-inch disk drives that
store 18 GB are common these days; it only takes about 60 of
those to store a TeraByte.  An S/390 mainframe or an MPP machine
from IBM or NCR is easily capable of processing and analyzing
that much data, and it would fit in your kitchen, together with
the disk.  A lot of companies are analyzing web trends from
web and application logs these days; hundreds of MB per day is
not unusual.

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From:         Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Selling Outside the US on eBay
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On Monday, 25.09.2000 at 21:54 GMT, Martin Bergvill  wrote:
> Are you sure? I have emailed the Paypal guys over and over again, but I
> have not gotten them to answer when they will launch there service here
> in Norway/Europe. They told me some time ago that in february they
> would launch something..now it is _not_ february :-(
>
It is not February yet. Did they specify a year? :-)

Ulrich Boche

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> The only problem I have is after returning to HV, the thumbnail
> is all screwed up as is other stuff on the screen that was fine
> before launching LXPIC.  I don't know why.

It also happens after you have saved the map from within HV.
It seems like you can do only one action with the map, either
viewing or saving, before it gets lost for HV.

Must be a problem somewhere on the road
HV-LXMAPBLAST.HTML-MapBlast

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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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From:         Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Disks, Memory and Hard Drives are Available.
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Hi Scott,

Scott wrote:
>
> I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.

>
> I also have  (1) 256K PC100 Dimm  in excellent condition for $145.00
> plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>

That seems kind of expensive for only a 256K DIMM ;) I think that
you mean a 256MB DIMM.
Just FYI Bryan

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:59:06 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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OOPS, I meant to send that to Scott alone, not to the list! I'm
embarrassed now. Bryan

Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Scott wrote:
> >
> > I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.
>
> >
> > I also have  (1) 256K PC100 Dimm  in excellent condition for $145.00
> > plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> >
>
> That seems kind of expensive for only a 256K DIMM ;) I think that
> you mean a 256MB DIMM.
> Just FYI Bryan
>
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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:38:57 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem

Marc - writes:
> First of all, thanks for all the responses...
>
> Adding M0 to the string, does quiet the modem... AFTER the dial-tone as
> mentioned below.  I tried adding S22=112 to the string as well, but the
> dial tone is still there.  What does S22=112 actually do?

According to the Megahertz manual, the S22 register controls speaker/results
bit mapped options.  Bits 0-1 control speaker volume (Ln) and bits 2-3 do
the speaker control (Mn).  Bits 4-6 control results codes, or monitoring of
busy signals (Xn) with 112 (or 7) being the default (X4).

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:28:06 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Selling Outside the US on eBay
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Ulrich Boche wrote:

> It is not February yet. Did they specify a year? :-)

November 2000

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:58:16 -0700
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              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Hi Bryan, I just got your email and thanks. Yes! I meant a 256MB Dimm PC100.
Sorry about that!   Thanks alot!  Scott

Bryan Biggers wrote:

> OOPS, I meant to send that to Scott alone, not to the list! I'm
> embarrassed now. Bryan
>
> Bryan Biggers wrote:
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > Scott wrote:
> > >
> > > I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.
> >
> > >
> > > I also have  (1) 256K PC100 Dimm  in excellent condition for $145.00
> > > plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> > >
> >
> > That seems kind of expensive for only a 256K DIMM ;) I think that
> > you mean a 256MB DIMM.
> > Just FYI Bryan
> >
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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:15:31 -0400
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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I can reccomend the Linksys BeFSR41 etherfast cable/router.
It connects to my cable modem and has 4 ethernet ports.
It includes a DSL server and a firewall.
The best feature is the ability to copy the ethernet card number from your
computer so to the cable modem it looks like the same computer is
connected.
Cost is something like $125 from buy.com

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:16:42 -0400
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject: Re: DSL with the palmtop?

 I suspect a DSL modem would work in very much the same way. The
computers on the network with the DSL modem would see it as the
gateway to the Internet.  Just make sure you have the ability
to have multiple computers access the DLS modem - some of them
are for single computers only.

Stan

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----- Original Message -----
From: "George Coleman" <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
Texas?  Hold on thar, cowpoke! Have you heard of DoubleClick?
Their business is doing just that.  3.5-inch disk drives that
store 18 GB are common these days; it only takes about 60 of
those to store a TeraByte.  An S/390 mainframe or an MPP machine
from IBM or NCR is easily capable of processing and analyzing
that much data, and it would fit in your kitchen, together with
the disk.  A lot of companies are analyzing web trends from
web and application logs these days; hundreds of MB per day is
not unusual.

--------New Message---------------------
And the system is probably as slow as molasses.  They will need a huge
mainframe unless they want to spend
a lot of time twiddling their thumbs.

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:37:55 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Stan,

exactly my observations.

> JPG=LXPIC %s
> GIF=LXPIC %s

This is where I had a wrong path statement.

> When I get the map, it appears as a thumbnail much smaller than
> the screen and it is reverse video because the cursor is on it.
>  I just press Enter and I get the prompt to spawn the external
> viewer.  Then LXPIC kicks in and views the map full screen. And
> Esc gets me back to HV.
>
> The only problem I have is after returning to HV, the thumbnail
> is all screwed up as is other stuff on the screen that was fine
> before launching LXPIC.  I don't know why.

Same behaviour here - you need to reload the map to get it displayed.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:03:54 -0700
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              Bryan R Leipper <nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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There are a couple of questions that came up concerning www
access with the newer cell phones. Here is some of what I found.

Many newer cell phones support the 'AT' command set. You can
obtain an adapter cord that plugs into the phone and has a db9 on
the other end to plug into your computer. The $30 kit from
Airtouch (Verizon) includes the null modem adapter needed for
palmtops. If your cell service provider supports it, this allows
you to treat your cell phone just like a generic fax/modem. It
emulates a 14,400 bps modem. The computer should be be set to
access the cell phone at 19.2kbps with hardware handshaking using
a standard serial port.

Airtouch/Verizon (at least here in Nevada) supports internet
access with a *777 dialup and charges only at the normal air time
rates. No special, additional, signup is needed beyond standard
cell service. They even provide an smtp server because many ISP's
do not allow using their smtp server unless you log in through
their network (you can usually access the POP servers from any
inet source).

You can log directly into the internet using your cell phone
(assuming digital service available where you happen to be), get
a clean 14.4k connection, and send and receive email, browse the
web, or whatever. The only thing you have to watch is that it is
real easy to burn minutes on the web!

This form of access uses CDMA and, in essence, just 'packetizes'
the data from the computer and sends the packets out on the
Verizon network just as it does for voice traffic. No
modulating/demodulating at all.

Direct internet connection using the cell phone 'AT' command set
should not be confused with WAP browsers also built into newer
phones. WAP service lets you browse special web sites using only
your cell phone. Verizon requires a special activation for cell
phone WAP browsing and charges about $7 per month for it. You do
not need this service if you use your HP200 as a web browser.

I am going to have to upgrade my HP200 so I can load the inet
software and start some really portable wireless internet!

--
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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:16:57 -0500
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              Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM>
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Marc,

ATL0M0 works on my Megahertz XJ2144. What modem init string do you
use, and what is your dial string?

Tom
www.palmtop.net


On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:43:38 -0700, Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

 > First of all, thanks for all the responses...
 >
 > Adding M0 to the string, does quiet the modem... AFTER the dial-tone =
as
 > mentioned below.  I tried adding S22=3D112 to the string as well, but =
the
 > dial tone is still there.  What does S22=3D112 actually do?
 >
 > Marc
 >
 > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jack Schudel wrote:
 > >
 > > > On my XJ 14.4 modem (I don't remember the model number),
 > > > "M0" turns off all of the noises *AFTER* the dial tone,
 > > > which I can't seem to kill off.
 > >
 > > Try adding "S22=3D112" to your init string.
 > >
 > > Ted
 > >
 > > --
 > > Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
 > > PGP fingerprint =3D 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C  A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:52:19 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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>I've ended up trying VR and  a think called Quickview that I
>found on SUPER. Quickview isn't bad, but it is a systems manager
>application, and I am a straight DOS guy with my HPLX. VR is a
>very impressive program, and the bigger fonts are just what I
>need. I do wish that they was a way not to use it in the
>"vertical" mode, the lines are quite short when you use the
>larger fonts. Bryan

I think when you register VR you get that capability, among others.

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:40:52 -0400
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              LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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Tony Hutchins wrote:

> Anybody know the line voltage in India? I checked www.roadwarrior.com
> and it looks like the European 2 prong adapter will do. Phone jacks
> seem to be the British type. Someone wouldn't know if there are any
> free ISPs or any that are easy to join for a month ? There are no
> compuserve or attglobal.net nodes as far as I can tell.

Voltage is indeed 220V, and the plugs are 2 prong round ones. I
believe there are a lot of RJ11 phone jacks around too.

I used to connect to Compuserve via SCITOR, but they have
closed it down a few years ago. Here is a passage saved from
the Travel Forum of Compuserve when I asked about ISP's for a
trip last December:

"Best way to log in to Compuserve is through the web and there
are many ISPs there that you can subscribe to and be online in
less than 15 minutes. Satyam Infoway is a local company that
shares its network with CIS and you can look them up on the
web."

I have not tried it the last time I went, since I was
travelling in an area where even phones are hard to find.

> Are there any internet caf=E9s in the main cities - New Delhi, Bangaloe,
> Bombay and Calcutta?

From what I heard, they are everywhere in the big cities.

Hope this helps.

Ka Tai

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:52:58 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

http://www.fepg.net/ is a web site dedicated to listing FREE ISP/email
providers worldwide..  Most are Web based but hope this is of use to some
on the list.

Cheers

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:33:00 +1200
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Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:17:34 +1200 (NZT)

37m41s ago ...
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:39:53 -0700, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:

> Voltage is indeed 220V, and the plugs are 2 prong round ones. I
> believe there are a lot of RJ11 phone jacks around too.

Thanks Ka Tai!

I will check out Satyan Infoway on the web too!

> I have not tried it the last time I went, since I was
> travelling in an area where even phones are hard to find.

<G>

Your info will be of great help :)

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:53:08 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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PICK.EXE (from SUPER) is pretty neat; it lets you 'Pick' a file and then
writes that file's fileid to a file where some other program can read
it.  What I want is to have that fileid end up in the environment
variable of my choice so I can use it in a .BAT file to act on that
selected file.

Any ideas??

Cheers... Russ

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1. Tandy Brands Accessories Inc.
Name Change: Tandy Brands Inc. T.A.B. Accessories
Merger: Durite Leather Goods Company Inc.
Predicasts Name: Tandy Brands Accessories
Name Change: Tandy Brands Inc. Tandy Brand Accessories
690 E. Lamar Blvd. Ste. 200
Arlington, TX 76011
Telephone Number(s): (817)548-0090 (512)293-2311
Fax Number(s): (512)293-6398
Toll-Free Number(s): (800)548-5439
URL(s): http://www.tandybrands.com

2. Tandy Corp.
Predicasts Name: Tandy
Merger: McDuffs
PO Box 17180
Fort Worth, TX 76102
Telephone Number(s):  (817)390-3700 (817)415-3700
Fax Number(s): (817)415-2647 (817)390-3500
(817)415-3500
URL(s): http://www.tandy.com
Officer(s): Dwain H. Hughes - Senior VP & CFO
Evelyn V. Follit - Vice President, Chief Information
Office
Francesca M. Spinelli - VP of Human Resources
George Burger - VP of Human Resources
John V. Roach - CEO & Chairman of the Board
Leonard H. Roberts - CEO & Chm Bd

3.Tandy Credit Corp.
1500 Two Tandy Ctr.
Fort Worth, TX 76102
Telephone Number(s): (817)390-3700
Fax Number(s): (817)390-3255
Officer(s): Richard Cree - VP, General Manager

4. Tandy Electronics Div.
Predicasts Name: Tandy Electronics
200 Taylor St., Ste. 700
Fort Worth, TX 76102
Telephone Number(s): (817)415-0100
Fax Number(s): (817)415-8664 (817)878-6669
Officer(s): Alfonso Esquivel - VP of Mktg
Carroll Leu - Dir of Info Systems
George Berger - Dir of Human Resources
Robert M. McClure - President
Terry Crump - CFO

5. Tandy Leather Co.
PO Box 791
Fort Worth, TX 76101
Telephone Number(s): (817)551-9781 (817)551-9727
Fax Number(s): (817)551-5763
Toll-Free Number(s): (800)555-3130
URL(s): http://www.tandyleather.com

6. Tandy Name Brand Retail Group
1800 One Tandy Ctr.
PO Box 17180
Fort Worth, TX 76102
SIC Code(s): 3571 - Electronic Computers

7. Tandy Wire and Cable
3500 McCart Ave.
Fort Worth, TX 76110
Telephone Number(s): (817)924-5789
Fax Number(s): (817)923-3345
Toll-Free Number(s): (800)421-5613
URL(s): http://www.tandy.com
Officer(s): Al Esquivel - Vice President
Bob Panell - Sales Mgr
David Baydoun - Gen Mgr
John Nickence - Mgr of Engineering
MaryAnn Weistner - Personnel Mgr
SIC Code(s): 3357 - Nonferrous Wiredrawing &
Insulating
3351 - Copper Rolling & Drawing
3679 - Electronic Components Nec

8. Tandy--Radio Shack Div.
Buccaneer Mall
Box 1688
St. Thomas, Virgin Islands of the United States 00804
Telephone Number(s): (809)774-1314
Officer(s): Art Chauvin - Exec. Officer
SIC Code(s): 5300 - General Merchandise Stores
5200 - Building Materials & Garden Supplies

AH YES in Virgin Islands too ROFLOMAO

9. Tandy-Radio Shack
Predicasts Name: Radio Shack
Predicasts Name: Tandy Radio Shack
100 Thorockmorton St.
Fort Worth, TX 76102
Telephone Number(s): (817)415-3011 (817)390-3011
Fax Number(s): (817)390-3213
URL(s): http://www.tandy.com
Officer(s): David J. Edmonson - Senior VP of Mktg
Geroge Berger - Vice President
Len Roberts - President
SIC Code(s):5731 - Radio, Television & Electronics
Stores
6794 - Patent Owners & Lessors
NAICS Code(s): 443112 - Radio, Television, and Other
Electronics Stores
533110 - Lessors of Nonfinancial Intangible Assets
(except Copyrighted Works)

and FINALLY an nb (NATA BENE):
TODAY THEY ARE OFFERING US$10 for their registered
users as a compensation that someone has already
broken into their server and "misappropriated" the
name and emails of Digital Convergencerrrrs. (LOL)

Now they want to know which bank you will be
depositing that check too
DON'T WORRY - BE HAPPY

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:45:28 -0700
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Thank You all for your inputs and suggestions and
replying to my questions, and other useful questions
from list members: e.g.:
1. use of the HP200LX on the STS-nnn
2. use of Yahoo as POP3 mail
and many others
3. IBM Microdrive (not being compatible with the
HP200LX) even with power adapter from Double slot and
etc ... dur to missing driver for the 80C186
4. a Link to a GPS coordinates de-ci-pherer.


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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:12:59 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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"Frank M. Mattes" <mattes@RFHSM.AC.UK> wrote:

> When do I have to use the LapLink Remote progarm (on the application =
manager
> screen) and what is the difference to the Filer connection ?

LapLink Remote Access (LLRA) is a different mechanism for
communicatin than Filer/Transfile.  They don't work together.

LLRA is in two parts.  LLRA Server runs on the palmtop from an
AppMgr icon and puts the palmtop in server mode for comms with
the LLRA utility running on the desktop.  The stuff running on
the desktop was really designed for Windows 3.1 and does not
work easily with Win95/98/NT.  This is because the LLRA client
running on the desktop tried to create a new drive letters that
are really the drives from the palmtop.  A couple of large TSR
programs need to be loaded in AUTOEXEC.BAT on the desktop, etc.

You are much better off with Transfile or with the little
command line data transfer program called Zip.  I just got a
PCMCIA card reader for my desktop and move my flashcard back
and forth.

> Inside the System setup there is the function key F6 (coomunication). =
What
> are the correct values for IO Address (0000) and Interrupt (0)

These settings are ignored on the palmtop because it is all
hardcoded.  Don't worry about them.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:28:24 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stanley Dobrowski" <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
> The stuff running on
>the desktop was really designed for Windows 3.1 and does not
>work easily with Win95/98/NT.

I use laplink with Windows 98.  Works fine.

>You are much better off with Transfile

I Don't use transfile...it needs a mouse and the HP200lx comes in on the
same port.  For me laplink and Filer work fine.  Just run them under restart
in DOS mode.

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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:42:22 -0600
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              "Terry A. Ward" <terrywa@ELP.RR.COM>
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Subject:      Re: VR in vertical mode
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I've got a registered version of VR and can't find how to switch from
vertical to horizontal.

Any ideas, thanks!  (Even without this facility, VR is a fantastic e-book
reader!)

At 04:52 PM 9/26/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >I've ended up trying VR and  a think called Quickview that I
> >found on SUPER. Quickview isn't bad, but it is a systems manager
> >application, and I am a straight DOS guy with my HPLX. VR is a
> >very impressive program, and the bigger fonts are just what I
> >need. I do wish that they was a way not to use it in the
> >"vertical" mode, the lines are quite short when you use the
> >larger fonts. Bryan
>
>I think when you register VR you get that capability, among others.
>
>Barry
>
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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:52:50 -0500
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              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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I have not registered, because I'm not sure if I will continue to
use it, but the unregistered version lets you peek in at the
fetures in the registered version, and I didn't see a "landscape"
type mode either. Bryan


"Terry A. Ward" wrote:
>
> I've got a registered version of VR and can't find how to switch from
> vertical to horizontal.
>
> Any ideas, thanks!  (Even without this facility, VR is a fantastic e-book
> reader!)
>
> At 04:52 PM 9/26/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > >I've ended up trying VR and  a think called Quickview that I
> > >found on SUPER. Quickview isn't bad, but it is a systems manager
> > >application, and I am a straight DOS guy with my HPLX. VR is a
> > >very impressive program, and the bigger fonts are just what I
> > >need. I do wish that they was a way not to use it in the
> > >"vertical" mode, the lines are quite short when you use the
> > >larger fonts. Bryan
> >
> >I think when you register VR you get that capability, among others.
> >
> >Barry
> >
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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:29:21 -0400
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              Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
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I have a couple XJ2144 cards, and they both refuse to be silent during
the
dial tone.

For an easy test, I just went into DataComm, and entered:

AT&FDT,

which gets me a fairly loud dial time for a couple of seconds.

AT&FL0M0DT,

gives me a more muted (and slightly stutterly) dial tone, but it is
still there.

The other card (which is older, probably from the first year's
production)
gives a full volume dial tone, with no stutter at all.

The old card has a serial number starting with 94,
the newer one's starts with C4.

Maybe they eventually fixed the problem?????

/jack



-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem


>Marc,
>
>ATL0M0 works on my Megahertz XJ2144. What modem init string do you
>use, and what is your dial string?
>
>Tom
>www.palmtop.net
>
>
>On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:43:38 -0700, Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>
> > First of all, thanks for all the responses...
> >
> > Adding M0 to the string, does quiet the modem... AFTER the dial-tone
as
> > mentioned below.  I tried adding S22=112 to the string as well, but
the
> > dial tone is still there.  What does S22=112 actually do?
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jack Schudel wrote:
> > >
> > > > On my XJ 14.4 modem (I don't remember the model number),
> > > > "M0" turns off all of the noises *AFTER* the dial tone,
> > > > which I can't seem to kill off.
> > >
> > > Try adding "S22=112" to your init string.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > --
> > > Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
> > > PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C  A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25
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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 06:58:28 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Marc,

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:59:19 -0700, Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
> palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?

Since the XJ2144 doesNn't use an internal speaker but the palmtop's
speaker, simply load LXPRO or some other utility which allows to adjust
the palmtop's speaker volume and before you want to go online without
noise simply invoke LXPRO and set the volume to zero.
This is the way I do it, and it works very comfortably - no init
strings to change, no problems with resetting the modem...


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:14:18 -0400
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> >"vertical" mode, the lines are quite short when you use the
> >larger fonts. Bryan
>
> I think when you register VR you get that capability, among others.

You get among others the ability to flip the screen from one
vertical to the other vertical, i.e. 180 degrees rotation, but
not 90 degree rotation.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:22:52 +1200
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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              Firewall - 09/26/2000¨
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For anybody out there interested, there is a review of the new
Zonealarm software on PCworld.com
Cheers
Tony.

ZoneAlarm Pro Firewall

Snoops, spies, and cyberpunks are only three reasons to to install
a
firewall. For personal, single-PC use, a free firewall such as
Zone
Labs' ZoneAlarm 2.1 is an effective way to shield yourself from
cyberattacks. In ZoneAlarm Pro 2.1, the company has added
additional
network protection to its already strong product. Read more in
Today's
Review.

Today's Review: ZoneAlarm Pro 2.1
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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:46:31 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: VR in vertical mode

Terry A. Ward writes:
> I've got a registered version of VR and can't find how to switch from
> vertical to horizontal.
>
> Any ideas, thanks!  (Even without this facility, VR is a fantastic e-book
> reader!)

Actually, I think the registered version lets you switch from one
vertical display, to the other vertical display (i.e., 180 degree
rotation).

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:09:29 -0400
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Well, the usage of such a system would certainly not be real-time random
access. The goal is to digest and report trends (I assume), not detailed
reports on individual user usage patterns...

So for each scanner, you simply increment two counters, one for the serial
number of the scanner, the other for the scanned barcode. A third datapoint
could be saved, the pair serial number/barcode for, say, the last 30, 60 or
other number of days.

Ken

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----- Original Message -----
From: "George Coleman" <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
Texas?  Hold on thar, cowpoke! Have you heard of DoubleClick?
Their business is doing just that.  3.5-inch disk drives that
store 18 GB are common these days; it only takes about 60 of
those to store a TeraByte.  An S/390 mainframe or an MPP machine
from IBM or NCR is easily capable of processing and analyzing
that much data, and it would fit in your kitchen, together with
the disk.  A lot of companies are analyzing web trends from
web and application logs these days; hundreds of MB per day is
not unusual.

--------New Message---------------------
And the system is probably as slow as molasses.  They will need a huge
mainframe unless they want to spend
a lot of time twiddling their thumbs.

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Ken London wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stanley Dobrowski" <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
> > The stuff running on
> >the desktop was really designed for Windows 3.1 and does not
> >work easily with Win95/98/NT.
>
> I use laplink with Windows 98.  Works fine.
>
> >You are much better off with Transfile
>
> I Don't use transfile...it needs a mouse and the HP200lx comes in on the
> same port.  For me laplink and Filer work fine.  Just run them under restart
> in DOS mode.

I use LLRA with an OS/2 machine, here the desktop must
run as the server as OS/2 won't let a DOS program create
a new drive.  The 200LX client then accesses the drives
on the OS/2 machine.  Works reasonably well.  When I get
lazy, I sometimes use the Connectivity Pack and FIler.
But while this is slower, it allows the 200LX to be the
server.  Transfile works, but dosen't preserve dates on
files and is (seemingly) slower yet.

At home, on the old Win 3.1/DOS 6.22 machine, I use INTERSVR
on the 200LX and INTERLNK on the desktop.  I prefer INTERLNK
to LLRA in terms of ease of use.  Beause INTERLNK works
so well, I never bothered to install Transfile or CPack.

If you have trouble using the 200LX as a server try using
the desktop as the server.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:36:25 -0400
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              Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU>
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I have transfile set up under WIN95 with the mouse on COM1 and the
palmtop connected to COM 4 which is an ISA card with a serial port and a
paralell port. If anyone is interested I have another serial/paralell ISA
card which could be yours for $2 plus postage.

Wy office machine ran WIN98 and had a PS2 mouse port so I plugged the
mouse into the PS2 port and connected the palmtop to COM1

In either case the com port connected to an Aegis IR-HP5 infared adaptor
which I can't say enough good things about. I only wish it worked with my
Omnibook 425 running CPACK200...
Anyway see http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html for more info on the IR-HP5.

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:28:24 -0400
>From: Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
>Subject: Re: help with connection to PC
>
>I use laplink with Windows 98.  Works fine.
>
>I Don't use transfile...it needs a mouse and the HP200lx comes in on the
>same port.  For me laplink and Filer work fine.  Just run them under
>restart in DOS mode.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:44:40 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> 3.5-inch disk drives that store 18 GB are common
> these days; it only takes about 60 of those to
> store a TeraByte.

Looking at CDW's website the other day I found drives of 60 and 80
gig for around $300 to $400.  There were a number of them to choose
from.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:45:46 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I've got a registered version of VR and can't
> find how to switch from  vertical to horizontal.

I guess I'm wrong.  I just checked mine and I didn't find a way
either.  I thought I remembered that you could.  Sorry

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:52:52 -0500
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I didn't see a "landscape" type mode either. Bryan

My mistake.  I thought I remembered that VR would do that.  I just
checked and it doesn't.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:36:07 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@1STCONNECT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff:  FW: Daily Product Review from PCWorld.com ÝZoneAlarm
              Pro             Firewall - 09/26/2000¨
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Combine ZoneAlarm's alerts with a good trace program like Neotrace and you
will have a ball figuring out who is trying to gain access to your machine.

Colin

For anybody out there interested, there is a review of the new
Zonealarm software on PCworld.com
Cheers
Tony.

ZoneAlarm Pro Firewall

Snoops, spies, and cyberpunks are only three reasons to to install
a
firewall. For personal, single-PC use, a free firewall such as
Zone
Labs' ZoneAlarm 2.1 is an effective way to shield yourself from
cyberattacks. In ZoneAlarm Pro 2.1, the company has added
additional
network protection to its already strong product. Read more in
Today's
Review.

Today's Review: ZoneAlarm Pro 2.1
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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:43:01 -0500
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From:         Beverly Howard <Bev@BEVHOWARD.COM>
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>> 18GB drives... <<

The (relatively) new term is "Data Mining" and the units have changed
from "gigabytes" to "terrabytes"

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Take a look at VIEW at http://mdrury.hypermart.net/index.html

If not exactly what you are looking for, it's a tool everyone who is
serious about Dos should have.

You can set the "wrap" column and use the HP ZOOM feature to increase
the font.

With VR, I believe the option was to set the screen either left or right
but not horizontal.

Hope this Helps...
 Beverly Howard

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:55:34 -0400
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From:         Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM>
Subject:      Re: Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem
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Jack,

now that's strange. My XJ2144 card is completely silent if I use
ATL0M0 - no dial tone at all. And it's not dead because I hear all
the tones if I don't use M0L0.

The serial number is 7450821213, but I don't know if that tells
something about the manufacturing year. The label on the front side
says "Megahertz 14.400/14.400 bps PCMCIA Gold Series Fax Modem with
Xjack".

Tom
www.rundel.net/palmtop


On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:29:21 -0400, Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU=
> wrote:

 > I have a couple XJ2144 cards, and they both refuse to be silent during
 > the
 > dial tone.
 >
 > For an easy test, I just went into DataComm, and entered:
 >
 > AT&FDT,
 >
 > which gets me a fairly loud dial time for a couple of seconds.
 >
 > AT&FL0M0DT,
 >
 > gives me a more muted (and slightly stutterly) dial tone, but it is
 > still there.
 >
 > The other card (which is older, probably from the first year's
 > production)
 > gives a full volume dial tone, with no stutter at all.
 >
 > The old card has a serial number starting with 94,
 > the newer one's starts with C4.
 >
 > Maybe they eventually fixed the problem?????
 >
 > /jack

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Tom... mine does the same thing as does Jack's.  Same model modem as
yours.  Applying ATL0M0 or AT&FL0M0 gets the same result...
dialtone before it goes silent.  My serial number looks strange
though... as compared to yours (C42338****).

Don't know what to think yet.

Marc
zaaap@earthlink.net

> Jack,
>
> now that's strange. My XJ2144 card is completely silent if I use
> ATL0M0 - no dial tone at all. And it's not dead because I hear all
> the tones if I don't use M0L0.
>
> The serial number is 7450821213, but I don't know if that tells
> something about the manufacturing year. The label on the front side
> says "Megahertz 14.400/14.400 bps PCMCIA Gold Series Fax Modem with
> Xjack".
>
> Tom
> www.rundel.net/palmtop
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:29:21 -0400, Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.E=
DU> wrote:
>
>  > I have a couple XJ2144 cards, and they both refuse to be silent =
during
>  > the
>  > dial tone.
>  >
>  > For an easy test, I just went into DataComm, and entered:
>  >
>  > AT&FDT,
>  >
>  > which gets me a fairly loud dial time for a couple of seconds.
>  >
>  > AT&FL0M0DT,
>  >
>  > gives me a more muted (and slightly stutterly) dial tone, but it is
>  > still there.
>  >
>  > The other card (which is older, probably from the first year's
>  > production)
>  > gives a full volume dial tone, with no stutter at all.
>  >
>  > The old card has a serial number starting with 94,
>  > the newer one's starts with C4.
>  >
>  > Maybe they eventually fixed the problem?????
>  >
>  > /jack
>
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Subject:      Re: Connecting in India
Comments: To: Tony Hutchins <nospam@UNDECIMUS.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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At 08:08 25-09-00, Tony Hutchins wrote:
>Anybody know the line voltage in India? I checked www.roadwarrior.com
>and it looks like the European 2 prong adapter will do. Phone jacks
>seem to be the British type. Someone wouldn't know if there are any
>free ISPs or any that are easy to join for a month ? There are no
>compuserve or attglobal.net nodes as far as I can tell.

The European 2 prong plug will do; not the one with 3 contacts. The two=20
pins will fit loosely as the Indian pins are a bit thicker. My old Lonely=20
Planet (1997) says: 230-240V, 50Hz. Indians are very creative - they'll get=
=20
you out of trouble if you end up with the wrong plug. They'll cut your PCs=
=20
cable and put an Indian plug on it - mixing up all the wires, of course.

A year and a half ago, when I was there, the Indian government monopolized=
=20
the internet through their state-operated ISP (I forget the name). Very=20
inefficient, very bureaucratic ... very Indian.

I gained no direct access to the internet while I was there. My GSM=20
cellphone didn't work (actually, someone told me it was illegal to have one=
=20
in your luggage) and the public phones all go through operators that won't=
=20
allow you hook up anything to their equipment. A word of warning: their=20
counters are computer based and will remember every digit you typed on=20
their phone - including your creditcard number. Someone used my number=20
around X-mas 1998 to have half a village call the UK: the charge was 400=20
US$.... (AT&T did credit me after I proved it could not have been me.)

The only way to go (for me): get into a cybercafe, download your e-mail=20
from the POP3 server, copy a comm program from a floppy onto their machine,=
=20
connect the serial cable, copy your downloaded files to the palmtop, copy=20
any prepared mail to the cybercafe machine and use Windoze cut-n-paste to=20
make new mail. Usually, the local techies would allow it and admire the=20
slick 200LX do mail. A virus is for people, not computers, right?

A luxury hotel (if you can find one) would be another 'solution', they have=
=20
the RJ45 connectors on their phones.

>Are there any internet caf=E9s in the main cities - New Delhi, Bangalore,
>Bombay and Calcutta?

I did find a few in Bombay. I tried to stay out of big cities - found=20
cybercafes in smaller cities easily. You'll have no trouble. (Lonely Planet=
=20
listed cyber cafes for the major cities back in 1997. Check their web-site=
=20
http://www.lonelyplanet.com  or buy their book: "India".)

Adriaan

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My 2 cents:

Has anyone heard of FastLynx from Rupp?  I guess they're out of business now
but I have two copies from back in the DOS days.  You can run it in a DOS
window in 95/98.  You can load it on a DOS machine with only a null modem
cable (as long as you can get to a DOS prompt) and either machine can be the
server.  You can use it in local mode as a file manager or in remote mode to
transfer files.

It also has a server version in the same package.  I have my 200LX running
FXSVR (server software) connected to a machine at work and the machine
across the room has the LX mapped as the H: drive thru our NT LAN.  I work
on programs on my main machine and then download them to the LX at the end
of the day so I can take my work home.

Also last night I found a SanDisk PCMCIA adapter for $12.99 at Office Depot
and am using my camera memory as a hard drive for the LX.  It's a whole new
ballgame...

Eric

>From: Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              Steve
>Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: help with connection to PC
>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:28:39 -0400
>
>Ken London wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Stanley Dobrowski" <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
> > > The stuff running on
> > >the desktop was really designed for Windows 3.1 and does not
> > >work easily with Win95/98/NT.
> >
> > I use laplink with Windows 98.  Works fine.
> >
> > >You are much better off with Transfile
> >
> > I Don't use transfile...it needs a mouse and the HP200lx comes in on the
> > same port.  For me laplink and Filer work fine.  Just run them under
>restart
> > in DOS mode.
>
>I use LLRA with an OS/2 machine, here the desktop must
>run as the server as OS/2 won't let a DOS program create
>a new drive.  The 200LX client then accesses the drives
>on the OS/2 machine.  Works reasonably well.  When I get
>lazy, I sometimes use the Connectivity Pack and FIler.
>But while this is slower, it allows the 200LX to be the
>server.  Transfile works, but dosen't preserve dates on
>files and is (seemingly) slower yet.
>
>At home, on the old Win 3.1/DOS 6.22 machine, I use INTERSVR
>on the 200LX and INTERLNK on the desktop.  I prefer INTERLNK
>to LLRA in terms of ease of use.  Beause INTERLNK works
>so well, I never bothered to install Transfile or CPack.
>
>If you have trouble using the 200LX as a server try using
>the desktop as the server.
>
>Steve
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Subject:      Re: multiple computers on one DSL/Cable connection
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Andrew King <king@ICARUS.CSRRI.IIT.EDU> wrote:

> I can reccomend the Linksys BeFSR41 etherfast cable/router.
> It connects to my cable modem and has 4 ethernet ports

I have heard of such devices, but didn't know of a specific
model.  Thanks for the info.

I was looking into the when I was first looking at getting DSL
because they had the restriction of only one computer.  But
now, Verizon claims that you can hook any number of computers
to work through thier DSL modem.


Stan

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Subject:      Re: Silencing a Megahertz PCMCIA modem
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Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU> wrote:

> AT&FL0M0DT,
>
> gives me a more muted (and slightly stutterly) dial tone, but it is
> still there

Jack, what modem driver are you using on the palmtop? CIC100?
LXCIC? If the first, then try the second.  Also look in the
docs of LXCIC to see if there is something in there about
silencing the speaker at the driver level.

If you notice, the "speaker" sounds are coming out of the
palmtop's noisemaker, not something inside the modem.  I think
the point enabler (modem driver) can disconnect that link.  I
know that when I used a point enabler from ACE Technologies
there was no way to get any sounds out of the modem because the
driver did not support that.


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:23:39 -0400
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I have been running POST/LX for a while, and I have several questions
and comments, in no particular order:

1. Is there any way to see all of the text messages going back and
forth while WWW/LX is doing the initial dial connection?
(So I can see any error messages that are generated for things
like expired passwords, etc, that are causing my connection
to fail.)

2. In POST.CFG, is there a way to change the HANGUP= option
based on the current connection name?
i.e. if connected via Compuserve, then HANGUP=1,
but if connected via the office, then HANGUP=0?

3. Is there a way to have POST only force the HANGUP if POST
caused WWW to dial the connection?
(Normally, I have POST configured to hangup the phone,
but sometimes it would be nice to have www make the connection,
check my mail, and then poke around with HV, without having
to redial in the middle.)

4. Or have a hot-key that would allow me to change the HANGUP
setting in the middle of a mail download?

5. Also, it seems that if I have PostOnLine=lxcic/r and HANGUP=0
then the modem gets killed while the session is still active,
which locks up my system.
It would be nice if I could only reset the modem if POST
initiated the HANGUP.

6. Right now I seem to have a repeatable problem, where I can
invoke www -d !post,
press F5 to go online,
which dials, connects, downloads my mail, and disconnects.
I then read my mail,
and then if I press F5 to update my mail,
the system dial my ISP, goes through the connect
sequence, and then hangs, rather than downloading my mail.
Sometimes I can cntl-alt-del to get out of this,
but most times I have to do a reset.

Is this a known problem?

I am using an XJ2144 pcmcia card modem, if it matters.

Many thanks...

/jack

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:59:22 +1200
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Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:53:13 +1200 (NZT)

01h37m02s ago ...
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:16:11 -0700, Adriaan van Nijendaal wrote:

> The only way to go (for me): get into a cybercafe, download your e-mail
> from the POP3 server, copy a comm program from a floppy onto their =
machine,
> connect the serial cable, copy your downloaded files to the palmtop, =
copy
> any prepared mail to the cybercafe machine and use Windoze cut-n-paste =
to
> make new mail. Usually, the local techies would allow it and admire the
> slick 200LX do mail. A virus is for people, not computers, right?

Brilliant! :)

Many thanks for all your help!

> A luxury hotel (if you can find one) would be another 'solution', they =
have
> the RJ45 connectors on their phones.

Ahha, I'm going to find out what an RJ45 looks like :)

Regards, Tony

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Subject:      Need help for using LCTXP and ccLXPOP

Hi list members,
Again, I'd put myself into the trouble of configurating these 2 programs
:-( Earlier version doesn't work perfectly, so I gave up. Now, I am trying
the play around with the latest LXTCP and ccLXPOP. This time I can connect
to my ISP without any problem, but the LXPOP and LXMTA don't work.
I can use Lxgftp so it means my connection to my ISP is ok and the username
and password are both fine. When chkg with LXTCPCFG I got the following:
Unknow pop.server...
Unknow pop.username...
Uknow pop.password..
Unknow smtp.server...
Here is my tcp.cfg in c:\lxmta, I simply copy the one from the LXTCP doc and
changed the username and password and rem out something I donot need (nor
understand).
------------------------tcp.cfg---------------------------------------------
;* General LXTCP parameters *
************************************
my_ip=bootp   ; Note that "my_ip=bootp" is preferred.
; netmask=255.255.255.0  ; Should be provided by BOOTP server.
; gateway=0.0.0.0  ; Should be provided by BOOTP server.
; nameserver=210.80.60.1 ; Should be provided by BOOTP server.
; domainslist=i-cable.com ; May be provided by BOOTP server.
sockdelay=240
domainto=60
; hostname="hp200lx"  ; May be provided by BOOTP server.
;mss=512
;* SMTP parameters *
**************************
smtp.server=smtp.i-cable.com ; Change to your SMTP server.
smtp.username="myusername" ; Your POP account name.
smtp.password="mypassword"  ; Your POP account password.
;* POP parameters *
***********************
pop.server=pop.i-cable.com      ; Change to your POP server.
pop.username="myusername"  ; Your POP account name.
pop.password="mypassword"  ; Your POP account password.
;* IMAP parameters *
************************
; imap.server=imap.i-cable.com ; Change to your IMAP server.
; imap.username="myusername"  ; Your IMAP account name.
; imap.password="mypassword"  ; Your IMAP account password.
;* NNTP parameters *
*************************
nntp.server=news.hplx.net ; Change to your NNTP server.
nntp.username="myusername" ; Your NNTP account name.
nntp.password="mypassword"  ; Your NNTP account password.
;* LXMTA parameters *
***************************
lxmta.spooldir="c:\lxmta\spool\" ; Your PNR spool directory.
lxmta.newsrc=incoming.jn ; Your NNTP newsrc file.
; smtp.delete=1  ; Delete sent mail from palmtop.
; pop.delete=0  ; Delete received mail from server.
; imap.delete=1  ; Delete received mail from server.
; nntp.delete=1  ; Delete posted news from palmtop.
lxmta.savesent=1 ; Set to 1 to save sent messages.
; lxmta.debug=0   ; Set to 1 for debugging.
; lxmta.maxlines=-1  ; Set to maximum lines per message.
; lxmta.maxbytes=-1  ; Set to maximum bytes per message.
; lxmta.minfree=-1  ; Set to minimum free space.
; lxmta.maxmsgs=-1  ; Set to maximum total articles.
; lxmta.scrollinfo=0 ; Overwrite information messages.
; lxmta.showheader=0 ; Show Subject & From when downloading.
;* LXTELNET parameters *
*******************************
ftpd.enable=1   ; Enable the FTP server.
; ftpd.passfile=passwd.cfg ; Your FTP server password file.
; username="username" ; Your account name for rsh and rlogin.
;* Expert LXTCP parameters *
**********************************
; debug=0   ; Set to 1 for debugging.
; debug.file=tcp.dbg  ; The name of the dump file.
; debug.mode=all  ; Set to headers, data or all.
; debug.proto=all  ; Set to icmp, udp, tcp or all.
;* End of tcp.cfg *
-------------------------end-----------------------------------
I'd put "set lxtcp.cfg=c:\lxmta\tcp.cfg" into my autoexec.bat file.
Error msg I got are: Unable to authenticate..." or "Unable to connect to
port 110 (or 25)...."
Can anybody help?
Thanks.
R.S.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:41:21 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Strange Characters in Post/LX
Comments: To: Larry Feldman <lfeldman@USA.COM>
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I get the list in digest form and read it using LXDR setup as an
external. All e-mails that are Content-Transfer-Encoding =3D
Quoted-printable appear this way (with =3D20 in place of every space).
However if I view the same e-mail with Post/Lx it looks fine... All
e-mails that have Content-Transfer-Encoding =3D 7Bit or 8bit look fine in
both programs. Seems to be something determined by the mailer program,
that can be handled by some readers and not others...
Suresh

Larry Feldman spoke thusly:
> Perhaps someone can help.
> When using Post/LX, some of my Digests (mostly from eGroups, but I =
think
> I've seen others), have the characters "=3D20" in place of every =
"space". Any
> ideas what this is?
> Thanks.
> Larry Feldman
> LFeldman@USA.com

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> and password are both fine. When chkg with LXTCPCFG I got the following:
> Unknow pop.server...
> Unknow pop.username...
> Uknow pop.password..
> Unknow smtp.server...
> Here is my tcp.cfg in c:\lxmta, I simply copy the one from the LXTCP doc and
> changed the username and password and rem out something I donot need (nor
> understand).
> ------------------------tcp.cfg---------------------------------------------
> ;* General LXTCP parameters *
> ************************************
> my_ip=bootp   ; Note that "my_ip=bootp" is preferred.

Do you really have lines like
*****************************
in your tcp.cfg or did it just wrap from the previous line? If the former,
you need to add ; at the front to make it a "comment" line.

Mike

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:04:43 +0800
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There are ";" before each of them in my tcp.cfg file.

R.S.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:40:31 -0400
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Jack Schudel wrote:
> 1. Is there any way to see all of the text messages going back and
> forth while WWW/LX is doing the initial dial connection?
> (So I can see any error messages that are generated for things
> like expired passwords, etc, that are causing my connection
> to fail.)

It is likely that you use CHAP, as do most people anymore. If
so, you will not see anything in text format, error or not.

If you see such messages now, then you must not be using CHAP.
Id so, you can run the program with the log option.
Unfortunately, this option will show you EVERYTHING! All the
discussion with the server about documents etc. So this will
make your life a bit miserable.

> 2. In POST.CFG, is there a way to change the HANGUP= option
> based on the current connection name?
> i.e. if connected via Compuserve, then HANGUP=1,
> but if connected via the office, then HANGUP=0?

If you read my post about selecting different ISPs from the
Shift-F5 in Post/LX then there is the way. If not, use Mike
Kopplin's excellent search on HPLX to find that post. I
believe it was a reply to Tomas Moberg.

> 3. Is there a way to have POST only force the HANGUP if POST
> caused WWW to dial the connection?
> (Normally, I have POST configured to hangup the phone,
> but sometimes it would be nice to have www make the connection,
> check my mail, and then poke around with HV, without having
> to redial in the middle.)

In that case, start www and initiate DOS (d:\dos\command.com).
That will start www.exe, dial, then give you a C:\ prompt and
you can fire up POST.EXE, HV whatever...

> 4. Or have a hot-key that would allow me to change the HANGUP
> setting in the middle of a mail download?

Try Shidt-F5...? But NEVER in the middle of the download. If
you are just trying to gracefully stop the session instead of
the CTRL key, press and HOLD the ALT key... When the current
operation is done, it'll go to the next mailbox, and if you
hold it again, it will gracefully shut down the session.

> 5. Also, it seems that if I have PostOnLine=lxcic/r and HANGUP=0
> then the modem gets killed while the session is still active,
> which locks up my system.
> It would be nice if I could only reset the modem if POST
> initiated the HANGUP.

I don't know about this, do not use that. AFAIK, there is no
reason to reset the modem when the connection is closed.
Generally you reset the modem when you come in. I am also
speculating that what seems a lockup, is simply a long
reaction time by the system. I used to think that certain
action caused a hang on the system, but Andreas convinced me
to wait longer :-> ....

> 6. Right now I seem to have a repeatable problem, where I can
> invoke www -d !post,
> press F5 to go online,
> which dials, connects, downloads my mail, and disconnects.
> I then read my mail,
> and then if I press F5 to update my mail,
> the system dial my ISP, goes through the connect
> sequence, and then hangs, rather than downloading my mail.
> Sometimes I can cntl-alt-del to get out of this,
> but most times I have to do a reset.

Weird! I do this about 50 times a day!

> Is this a known problem?

Not to me.

> I am using an XJ2144 pcmcia card modem, if it matters.

No idea. We stayed away form dealing with specific modems
because the variety, while lovely, is also a support-killer.
So I really do not know about specific modems, Sorry...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:34:00 +0200
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At 00:01 28-09-00, eric johnston wrote:
>My 2 cents:
>
>Has anyone heard of FastLynx from Rupp?  I guess they're out of business now
>but I have two copies from back in the DOS days.  You can run it in a DOS
>window in 95/98.  You can load it on a DOS machine with only a null modem
>cable (as long as you can get to a DOS prompt) and either machine can be the
>server.  You can use it in local mode as a file manager or in remote mode to
>transfer files.

I love that program! I've been using the DOS version to transfer mail from
my HP 200 to computers in Cyber cafes (see another mail on connecting in
India). Loading it from the HP200 hasn't worked for me - I used a floppy.

Actually, They're not out of business! If you want newer versions (I bought
the Windows version, which comes with a DOS client which takes up a lot of
memory) check out www.sewelld.com for the latest on this program.

Adriaan

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:29:09 +0000
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Jack, what modem driver are you using on the palmtop? CIC100?
> LXCIC? If the first, then try the second.  Also look in the
> docs of LXCIC to see if there is something in there about
> silencing the speaker at the driver level.

LXCIC cannot disable the modem's access to the speaker.
Use a utility to set the palmtop's speaker volume to 0.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:29:11 +0000
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Jack Schudel wrote:

> 5. Also, it seems that if I have PostOnLine=lxcic/r and HANGUP=0
> then the modem gets killed while the session is still active,
> which locks up my system.

Why do you reset the modem with LXCIC/R ? This is like pressing
the (virtual) reset button of the modem. Indeed you loose the
connection.

My recommendation is: Load LXCIC resident in your autoexec.bat
before you load SC. Then remove all LXCIC fiddling from
PreOnline= PostOnline=. LXCIC only uses 1000 bytes resident.
Nothing to worry about, but no more problems with improper
Pre/PostOnline settings.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:50:37 +0200
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hi,

On 28 Sep 2000, at 10:59, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> > A luxury hotel (if you can find one) would be another 'solution', they
> > have the RJ45 connectors on their phones.
>
> Ahha, I'm going to find out what an RJ45 looks like :)

usually the phone plugs are RJ11, which is the smaller sister of RJ45.
What you could do is make a universal travelling set yourself. You take
your modem's cable, connect it to a RJ11 Connector (2 x female)
on the other side you plug in a RJ11 plug with 1 or 2 meters of
telefone wire. you solder 2 crocodile crimps to the wire. If you get no
access to the phone jack with your swiss knife, you can is take 2
needles and and stich into the phone cable of your hotel. Now you can
attach the crocodile crimps to the two needles and get access to the
phone net like this. In the US the inner two wires of the RJ11 plug are
used, but in France I found out they use the outer two wires.
I would try this at home first to be familiar with your tools when you
are abroad.

73!
Werner
OE9FWV


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Russel Brooks wrote:

> PICK.EXE (from SUPER) is pretty neat; it lets you 'Pick' a file and then
> writes that file's fileid to a file where some other program can read
> it.  What I want is to have that fileid end up in the environment
> variable of my choice so I can use it in a .BAT file to act on that
> selected file.

> Any ideas??

> Cheers... Russ

Hello Russ,

Went to S.U.P.E.R. and got PICK.  Found a couple of
ways to do this.  The most straight forward follows.

At the command line type

ECHO.Set FILE=¬Z > SET.TXT

that is the echo command, an optional period to suppress
a space, the phrase "Set FILE=", a control-z character,
and redirection to the file SET.TXT.  The control-z can
be generated with the F6 key.

Next in a BATch file have the following.

PICK
copy SET.TXT+C:\FILE.LST SETFILE.BAT
call SETFILE.BAT

You should now have the environmental variable "FILE"
set to the path supplied by PICK.EXE.

This should work, if it doesn't, I squeezed a few other
ways to do the same thing using DEBUG.

BTW, how do you use the environmental variable?

Steve

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:43:02 +0100
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Is the MKS Toolkit (Unix tools) still available for DOS? I have visited
www.mks.com, and only found references to Windows.

Any known alternatives?

Regards,
Paulo Custodio

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sed "s/¬/set var=/" < FILE-FROM-PICK > tmp.bat
call tmp.bat


Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> PICK.EXE (from SUPER) is pretty neat; it lets you 'Pick' a file and then
> writes that file's fileid to a file where some other program can read
> it.  What I want is to have that fileid end up in the environment
> variable of my choice so I can use it in a .BAT file to act on that
> selected file.
>
> Any ideas??

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> > An S/390 mainframe or an MPP machine
> >from IBM or NCR is easily capable of processing
> > and analyzing that much data, and it would fit in
> > your kitchen, together with the disk.

> And the system is probably as slow as molasses.
> They will need a huge mainframe unless they want
> to spend a lot of time twiddling their thumbs.

S/390 is a huge IBM mainframe.  I assume the MPP is a mainframe as
well.

The first mainframe I worked on in the late 60's, a Univac 9400
(also an RCA Spectra 70 dual) wouldn't have fit in the kitchen,
unless you really had a huge kitchen.  And these were among the
smaller mainframes of the day.  I guess things have changed.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:29:05 +0200
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Marc, Daniel,

> > I am using, among others, a Megahertz XJ2144 pcmcia modem in my
> > palmtop.  Is there a way to fully silence the modem during a session?
> Since the XJ2144 doesNn't use an internal speaker but the palmtop's
> speaker, simply load LXPRO or some other utility which allows to adjust

I have the same card and same problem and never found a proper init =
string so
I use VOLSET /T0 in a batch file before launching POST/LX.

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:55:15 +0000
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Jack Schudel wrote:

> What I was trying to do was get the modem to drop down to
> low power mode.
> (LXCIC/O reports "Card Power down failed",

I also use a XJ1144. You cannot power down them by command,
but they power down by themselves.

Once I did some measurement with a voltmeter connected.
I don't remember the correct mA values, but I remember well,
that an unconfigured modem constantly draws twice as much than
a configured modem. That is, you should always have LXCIC
installed, if you have the modem plugged in.

I guess a plugged in XJ1144 (configured but offline) draws
about additional 50 mA. Compared to the usual 10-20 mA of an
idle palmtop this is a factor in the range of 2-5, depending
on your palmtop upgrade (double speed/64MB).

That means, you should always remove the modem after an online
run to save batteries. And worst is to keep the modem plugged
in with LXCIC disabled. If I remember right, then the modem
draws additional 120 mA.

Only facts count. It is quite simple to do your own
measurement. Just put a voltmeter in line with the main
batteries. I use two isolated thin plates of copper, which
fit between the + end of one battery and the small bridge
between both batteries. I then connect my voltmeter with the
two (isolated againt each other) plates of copper.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:29:57 -0400
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> And the system is probably as slow as molasses.  They will need a huge
> mainframe unless they want to spend
> a lot of time twiddling their thumbs.
>

If you have been hanging around UNIX or NT servers all your
life, you would be amazed to see what a mainframe or a massively
parallel processing machine can do.

And data mining on a terabyte is nothing these days.  We are
getting into the 100-terabyte age.  Within five years, we will
probably see petabyte-sized data bases, and people will be doing
data mining and heavy crunching on them, with decent turn-
around time.

Hey! don't believe me! Just wait and see.

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I know that the instructions are there in black and white (or, on the 200LX
screen, green and grey), but I can't seem to "see" the Zip+ disk that I am
trying to connect to my TransDigital card.  I followed the directions, but
I wonder if it doesn't like the fact that the Zip+ has the auto-sensing
feature of looking for *either* a SCSI or parallel-port interface.  Anyone
have success with the Zip+ (vs. the "vanilla" Zip)?
Thanks!
-B.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:43:48 -0400
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Hi Stan,

how are you doing? Hope everything is ok in NJ...

 > Jack, what modem driver are you using on the palmtop? CIC100?
 > LXCIC? If the first, then try the second.  Also look in the
 > docs of LXCIC to see if there is something in there about
 > silencing the speaker at the driver level.

This is an interesting idea. I use CIC100 and can silence the
modem, now let's see what the others are using.

Tom
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----- Original Message -----
From: "George Coleman" <GJColeman@CSI.COM>
If you have been hanging around UNIX or NT servers all your
life, you would be amazed to see what a mainframe or a massively
parallel processing machine can do.

I used mainframes many times and there were times when they were as slow as
molasses.

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Terry A. Ward writes:

> I've got a registered version of VR and can't find how to switch from
> vertical to horizontal

If VR had a Horizontal mode, it would be called HR. <grin> VR
is vertical only.


Stan

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Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> LXCIC cannot disable the modem's access to the speaker.
> Use a utility to set the palmtop's speaker volume to 0

Do you know if it possible for the modem's point enabler to
disconnect the modem's access to the speaker at all? I wonder
how ACE Technology did it with their driver.  I know that the
modem was always silent, no matter what, without the M0 option
and without setting the palmtop's speaker volume to zero.  That
is one of the things I didn't like about thier driver.


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Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> > The only problem I have is after returning to HV, the thumbnail
> > is all screwed up as is other stuff on the screen that was fine
> > before launching LXPIC.  I don't know why.
>
> Same behaviour here - you need to reload the map to get it displayed

Of course, the map is displayed properly when HV shells out to
LXPIC to display it full screen.  Only after the return to HV
is the display messy, but that is not a problem, because a BACK
will take me to the data fields screen for a new location.


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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:56:31 +0000
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Steve Novosad wrote:
> ECHO.Set FILE=¬Z > SET.TXT
>
> Next in a BATch file have the following.
>
> PICK
> copy SET.TXT+C:\FILE.LST SETFILE.BAT
> call SETFILE.BAT
>
> BTW, how do you use the environmental variable?

Steve, I tried your idea but it doesn't work because the BAT file ends
at the ctrl-Z which is the end of file character for DOS.
Wait... if the SET was in a separate BAT file as the last line and I
continued from another BAT file which had CALL'd it this might still work.

I'll use the environment variable like this:

  type %file%

This will TYPE the contents of the file whose fileid is in the
environment variable 'file'.  Of course you can use any command, not
just TYPE.

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Stanley Dobrowski writes:
>
> I got the connectivity cable for my Motorola tri-mode StarTAC
> 7868 phone right from the same Verizon Wireless store where I
> got the phone.  You can also get it from just about any place
> that sells accessories for the StarTAC phones.  I don't know
> the Motorola model number, but it is the comms cable and
> TrueSync sofware for the ST7868W phone.  It costs about $100,
> if I remember.

Wow!  Seems pricey for a cable.  I suppose the connector to the phone
is proprietary, so it would be difficult to fabricate one yourself?
Or are there other things (such as software) included with the kit
that are necessary?

Thanks for the great tips, by the way.  I've got a request in at my
local Verizon store to let me know when they get in the ST phone.
Right now they're back ordered.

Ted

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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Do you know if it possible for the modem's point enabler to
> disconnect the modem's access to the speaker at all? I wonder
> how ACE Technology did it with their driver.

I checked the "PCMCIA Developer's Guide" by Michael Mori and
Dean Welder but found not a single entry concerning speaker
or dial tone :-(

Access to PCMCIA is through INT 1A, but nothing found there
either.

I assume, access to the PC speaker is hidden somewhere in the
INT 1A, which is a BIOS function in the palmtop's ROM. I don't
believe, that the speaker is accessed directly by the modem's
firmware, because this would imply, that the modem is able to
detect the operating system where it is plugged in, which I
doubt.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:42:19 -0400
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I've recently been cleaning out the closets via eBay, and I was looking
for a fast way to look at my latest auction results. While HV is not
suited for general eBay browsing (as far as I know), I did find a way
to get my latest auction results in about 20 unattended seconds. I
thought I'd pass it along in case anyone needs a similar tool.

I'm using WWW/LX Version 3 and Get.EXE available on the DASoft web
site.

I start the process with the following batch file (eBay.dat):

WWW "!GET A:\WWWLX\GET.DAT"
hv

Get.dat contains a single line:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=
ViewListedItems&userid=lfeldman&include=0&since=2&sort=2&rows=25
a:\packets\ebay.htm

This is on a SINGLE line. If you put your user ID in place of mine
(lfeldman), you should be all set. I have since=2 to look at recently
closed auctions. HV is set to start with the "last loaded page" - so it
loads my results right up.

I start my batch file, come back a minute later, and the results eBay
numbers are on the screen. You'll find that the screen wraps a bit,
but it is 100+ percent, useable.

If anyone can suggest improvements - I'd love to hear them.

Regards,

Larry Feldman


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Ken wrote:
> I used mainframes many times and there were times when they were as slow as
> molasses.

Most users of mainframes are just one of many and therefore any
performance you see is really subject to the load on the system caused
by other users and batch jobs.  ANY cpu can be slowed if the load is big
enough.  Try a mainframe soon after it's been IPL'd and there hasn't
been enough time for a load to build; you'll be impressed by what it can
do.

Cheers... Russ
IBM VM/CMS Bigot!

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I just bought the Acctron PCMCIA ethernet card, and ran op2216 and pd2212
0x62 5  as per the docs in the file on Super. However, I still seem to need
a network client. After doing this I get the error packet driver not found
when I try to run mini-telnet, plus there is no way I can be picking up an
IP address.  What else need I do to get my Palmtop on my network?  I have NT
networks both at home and at work.  TIA.

Jim

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I will be out of the office starting  09/29/2000 and will not return until
10/02/2000.

I will respond to your message when I return.

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I will be out of the office starting  09/28/2000 and will not return until
10/02/2000.

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On Thursday, 28.09.2000 at 14:03 GMT, Barry  wrote:
> S/390 is a huge IBM mainframe.  I assume the MPP is a mainframe as
> well.
>
> The first mainframe I worked on in the late 60's, a Univac 9400
> (also an RCA Spectra 70 dual) wouldn't have fit in the kitchen,
> unless you really had a huge kitchen.  And these were among the
> smaller mainframes of the day.  I guess things have changed.
>
Todays mainframes (IBM 9672 Generation 6) are, in terms of space
requriements, are not that huge anymore. They take around one square meter
and you don't need cooled water as in the old times.

Ulrich Boche

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Bryan R Leipper <nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Many newer cell phones support the 'AT' command set. You can
> obtain an adapter cord that plugs into the phone and has a db9 on
> the other end to plug into your computer

Yes, Bryan.  I use the Motorola 7868 StarTAC phone and Verizon
Wireless.  I can hook the phone up to my 200LX and go online as
easily with the cel phone as with an external modem and a land
line.  I am so thrilled that this works so perfectly - it is
fast and easy to do.  I do not have to install any modem
drivers or even change my config for wither acCIS or WWW/LX.

Technology is great!

> Airtouch/Verizon (at least here in Nevada) supports internet
> access with a *777 dialup

I have not heard about that for my area - I will have to try
it.

> I am going to have to upgrade my HP200 so I can load the inet
> software and start some really portable wireless internet!

Yes, do it.  But the great thing about this deal is that since
you are just using the palmtop's serial port, all of this comms
software can be on the flash card.  One of the biggest reasons
I upgraded my RAM to 32MB was so that I could put the comms
software on the internal RAM because I had to use a PCMCIA
modem with my old cel phone.  Not any more, though.  :-)


Stan

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Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> my vim editor to prepare some text files, when I noticed that the =
editor
> was acting *very* slow when I would try certain operations, like =
inserting
> a new line

Perhaps it was a memory crunch.  If the amount of RAM you give
vim to work in is a bit tight, then some operations might slow
down because it has to use the swap file more often.  And this
might not show up as soon as you open the file, but after edit
it for a while.  Also, it might be made worst by large files.

> Anything that would suddenly cause
> the flash disk to become real slow all of a sudden?

I strongly doubt it has anything to do with this.  Your Simple
Tech 160MB card is probably quite new and should not have any
kind of wear issues because of the little use it has gotten and
because it is a new technology that has a very large write
cycle life.


Stan

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Russ wrote:
>Steve Novosad wrote:
>> ECHO.Set FILE=¬Z > SET.TXT
>>
>> Next in a BATch file have the following.
>>
>> PICK
>> copy SET.TXT+C:\FILE.LST SETFILE.BAT
>> call SETFILE.BAT
>>
>> BTW, how do you use the environmental variable?
>
>Steve, I tried your idea but it doesn't work because the BAT file ends
>at the ctrl-Z which is the end of file character for DOS.
>Wait... if the SET was in a separate BAT file as the last line and I
>continued from another BAT file which had CALL'd it this might still work.
>

Strange, you didn't call SETFILE.BAT as in the example?
You can use DEBUG to greate a file without a Ctrl-Z, but you
need DEBUG and the length of the filename.  But, if you edit
the SET.TXT to remove the Ctrl-Z, the carriage return, and line
feed, you could use the /b option to copy the files together.
Voila, no Ctrl-Z.  The problem there is the built in editors.
The WordPerfect editor ED.EXE does very well in this regard.
The built in edlin doesn't work in this particular case, and
I'm not familiar with Memo.

>I'll use the environment variable like this:
>
>  type %file%
>
>This will TYPE the contents of the file whose fileid is in the
>environment variable 'file'.  Of course you can use any command, not
>just TYPE.

Okay, that makes sense.

>
>Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:32:09 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Subject:      More Lotus printing help with TransDigital
Comments: cc: Jon Miller <jonathan_miller@thaddeus.com>,
          "angi@reaganconsulting.com"
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Everyone,

Thanks for your help (especially Longdon's) on the last Lotus problem.  This
might be similar.

THANK YOU.  I do appreciate your help as we are still backed up testing,
cleaning, and refurbishing the Dutch Palmtops here at Thaddeus.



A frustrated customer, Angi Bemiss Ýmailto:angi@reaganconsulting.com,
emailed us with the following.  Can anyone help?


Jon - I purchased (from Thaddeus) the Trans PC card to use to print from my
200LX to several printers: a HP 820i (?) and a HP LaserJet 1100, and a Canon
BJ80.  On Saturday, I spent several hours (ugh!) trying to print from Lotus
to the HP 820, which is a color printer.  I followed the directions as best
I could, but had no success.  I called Thaddeus on Mon & the operator
suggested that I call Trans Digital.  I have called twice, left a message
once, but have not had a call back.  Also, I looked on their website, but
it's the same info that's in the book.

Will you please provide me with simple, step-by-step instructions for
printing from Lotus?  I did get CIC installed.  (It said "already installed"
when I tried other things, so I uninstalled & reinstalled several different
times.)

To give you an idea of the type of instructions I need, here are some
questions I have:

1.  Do I have to install anything on the PC that I'm using?  (I didn't)
2.  Does the new cable get hooked into the printer slot of the PC and then
the normal printer cable gets hooked into that?
3.  Can you hook the new cable directly into the printer cable & bypass the
PC?

   (I tried both of these hookups, neither worked.)

4.  My interpretation of the instructions is to use Lotus' commands as
follows:  menu, print, file - this creates a .prn file (I have 2 that I
tried to use on Saturday).  Then, I tried the commands from DOS of "A:TRANS
C:\_dat\123\filename.prn LPT1 /X".  This did not work, nor did "A:trans
c:\_dat\123\filename.prn LPT1." (the two commands shown on page 14 of the
directions).

   (I tried every possible combination of these commands, including LPT2,
since the CIC default says it's LPT2.  One looked like it was working but
printed nothing, and the other gave a message "no connection".)

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Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:48:18 -0700
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Hello!

I would like to adjust the 123-graphical interface for my needs, but
couldn't find a source archive; who can help?

                Klaus.
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Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:00:47 -0400
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Acctron card, 200LX, and NT network
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Thanks.  Now it seeks an IP address, but doesn't get one though. Doesn't it
have to log in to the NT domain with a valid account, just like Win95, 98,
2K, and NT4 clients?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Kelley Ýmailto:kelley@wt.net¨
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:49 PM
To: jhenry@comcastwork.com
Subject: Re: Acctron card, 200LX, and NT network


you also have to run dhcp.exe from super to get the ip address and gateway.
the tcp ip packet driver i use is www/lx.
so i run
lxcic
lxen2216 0x66
dchp
www isp_ether  (isp_ether is a config that i preconfigured with certain ip
addresses etc, this is a different one than i use for dial up)
this gets me on the network and i can browse the web from my internal work
network
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Henry" <jhenry@comcastwork.com>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: Acctron card, 200LX, and NT network


> I just bought the Acctron PCMCIA ethernet card, and ran op2216 and pd2212
> 0x62 5  as per the docs in the file on Super. However, I still seem to
need
> a network client. After doing this I get the error packet driver not found
> when I try to run mini-telnet, plus there is no way I can be picking up an
> IP address.  What else need I do to get my Palmtop on my network?  I have
NT
> networks both at home and at work.  TIA.
>
> Jim
>
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Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:35:33 -0500
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Note that LXGPS can display and scroll the largest maps generated off of
this page.

In addition, if you can go to the trouble of calibrating the maps (see
http://www.bevhoward.com/mapcal.htm) you can cascade detail maps under
larger scale maps... for example, you could have a county map and then a
detailed map of downtown streets that LXGPS zooms to when the cursor is
over the downtown area and a zoom is requested.

Beverly Howard

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> Is the MKS Toolkit (Unix tools) still available for DOS? I
> have visited www.mks.com, and only found references to Windows.
> Any known alternatives?

See the Thompson Toolkit at
   http://www.teleport.com/~thompson

I have used it for years, even on the 95LX!

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Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:37:46 +0200 (GMT)

> Terry A. Ward writes:
>
> > I've got a registered version of VR and can't find how to switch from
> > vertical to horizontal
>
> If VR had a Horizontal mode, it would be called HR. <grin> VR
> is vertical only.
>
> Stan

You nailed it! That's exactly what I wanted to answer! <g>.-
But beside
that, seriously, reading texts with the VR on the HP is much less hard =
for the eyes
than in horizontal mode and the HP is better to hold in one hand, flipping
pages with Your thumb on the space-key.- Another masterpiece of software =
for
the HP!

Axel

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OTOH, sometimes I like to read while I'm eating (who doesn't) ... and if the
food needs both hands (chili-burgers ... Nature's perfect food), the reading is
a lot easier with the LX on the table in "HR" mode.  Then you only need to
disengage the hands for a quick keypress to page forward.  You can do this with
VR by propping up the LX like a cheap paperback (and risk having it fall into
the fries) ... but its normal orientation is really all you need (and HR).

Yeah there's a lot of standard viewers out there ... but VR lets you exit and
return back to where you were last ... a nice bookmarking touch.

- Longden





Axel Klag <AKlag@T-ONLINE.DE> on 09/29/2000 01:40:47 PM

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Subject:  Re: VR in vertical mode



that, seriously, reading texts with the VR on the HP is much less hard for the
eyes
than in horizontal mode and the HP is better to hold in one hand, flipping
pages with Your thumb on the space-key.- Another masterpiece of software for
the HP!

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Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:17:55 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>A frustrated customer, Angi Bemiss Ýmailto:angi@reaganconsulting.com,
>200LX to several printers: a HP 820i (?) and a HP LaserJet 1100, and a
Canon
>BJ80.

The 820 is a GDI printer, I think. Seem to remember steering clear of it
when considering a new HP printer. GDI means Windows only, since it is brain
dead.

The LJ1100 should work with the Laserjet driver, and the BJ-80 can be set to
Epson emulator or native mode, IIRC. I think there is a Epson driver in the
LX.

Oh yes, the command should follow "copy /b printer_file_name lpt_whatever".

br

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Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> Wow!  Seems pricey for a cable.  I suppose the connector to the phone
> is proprietary, so it would be difficult to fabricate one yourself?

Yes to both your comment and your question. <grin> The
connector on the phone end is special and the cable comes with
a bunch of software for syncing the phone number list in the
phone with PIM applications on the desktop.

I don't use a desktop PIM (because I use the 200LX), but they
include a simple one. I entered the phone numbers into this and
the downloaded them into the phone.  This was a lot easier than
trying to type the names on the phone's keypad.  It works very
nicely.


Stan

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> I assume, access to the PC speaker is hidden somewhere in the
> INT 1A, which is a BIOS function in the palmtop's ROM

I will have to accept your word on that because you are far
more advanced than I am.  Thanks for checking into this.


Stan

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

Ýsnip¨

> Yeah there's a lot of standard viewers out there ... but VR lets you
> exit and return back to where you were last ... a nice bookmarking
> touch.

An older version of UNIX "less" might be a good solution. For the vi'ers
(I know you're out there), it has vi-style key bindings, powerful search
functions, and since it a UNIX TTY app it is most likely flexible enough
to work perfectly in all three zoom modes (I think the screen size, as
used by the program, can be set on the fly). I wouldn't be surprised if it
had bookmarks either. It only handles fixed width fonts, of course. Only
downside is that "less" tends to run a bit slowly on the LX, especially
newer versions (I think I have version 3.x on my LX, but I don't have it
handy to check). An older version might be a good compromise, though.

Time to hit the old DOS archives...


Cheers,

Laust

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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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<crwrecks@ureach.com> has Rex-3 Docks, he's selling them on eBay but
probably would sell you one direct if you asked.

If anyone from outside Continental US needs one, ask off-list and I'll
help (It's busy right now!)

  Mark

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I would like to adjust the 123-graphical interface for my needs,
> but couldn't find a source archive; who can help?

I doubt that the source for 123 is available.  I'd be amazed if it
was.

However, they do have an add-on sdk for creating 123 add-ons that
let you change a lot.  I began to use it once but the project was
cancelled so I didn't get very far with it.

I don't remember if we bought it or if it was just publicly
available.  I think the latter.  It consisted mostly of
documentation IIRC.

I may still have it on some archive disk somewhere but it could
easilly take many hours to find it.  I haven't seen it in a long
time.  And I'm not completely sure it was in digital form.  Maybe it
was printed material.  I just dont remember.  But I'll look around a
little and see if it's in any obvious places.  I'd also suggest
checking with simtelnet and with wotsits.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:47:45 +0200
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              Josef Meyer <meyerj@SWISSONLINE.CH>
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Beverly Howard wrote:
> Note that LXGPS can display and scroll the largest maps generated off of
> this page.
>
> In addition, if you can go to the trouble of calibrating the maps (see

That's exactly what I did right now for my holidays in Italy. I took
some maps in different scales from the LXMAPBLAST page and calibrated
it by determining some significant points with my GARMIN GPS12 system.
By connecting the Palmtop to the GPS, LXGPS shows me quite exactly my
actual position.

To fetch the suitable maps, I gave the coordinates of my holiday area
as input and saved the maps using different zoom factors.

During calibrating i found one important issue:

when using small zoom factors (i.e. 1..3), it is very important to
choose the appropriate map datum. I found that choosing the wrong map
datum may result in deviations of several hundreds of meters.

This is caused by the fact that the globe is not a sphere, not even an
ellipsoid (i.e. a rotating ellipse with the poles on the smaller
diameter). It is more a so called geoide, something like a potato
shaping a ball with peaks and depressions. Therefore in the past each
country which made maps of its area defined its own map datum, a model
approaching as well as possible its region to a sphere. There exist
more than a hundred of different map datums.

GPS is using a global map datum, known as WGS84, which is probably also
the map datum used by LXMAPBLAST (??).

Can anybody reading this list confirm that LXMAPBLAST is using WGS84 as
map datum?

Josef Meyer
(on holidays, but with palmtop and mobile phone connected to the world)

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<snip>
> GPS is using a global map datum, known as WGS84, which is probably also
> the map datum used by LXMAPBLAST (??).
>
> Can anybody reading this list confirm that LXMAPBLAST is using WGS84 as
> map datum?

MapBlast, and therefore LXMapBlast, uses the datums of NAD83 for U.S. and
Canadian locations and WGS84 for the rest of the world.

Cheers,
Mike Kopplin

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Barry wrote:

> > I would like to adjust the 123-graphical interface for my needs,
> > but couldn't find a source archive; who can help?
>
> I doubt that the source for 123 is available.  I'd be amazed if it
> was.

I think he means "123G", an addon that gives Lotus 123 a PAL-style
interface, consistent with the other built-in apps. It can be found on
SUPER. I don't think the source code is available, but surely the author
can be contacted via e-mail?


Cheers,

Laust

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:56:31 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> =
wrote:

 > Steve Novosad wrote:
 > > ECHO.Set FILE=3D¬Z > SET.TXT
 > >
 > > Next in a BATch file have the following.
 > >
 > > PICK
 > > copy SET.TXT+C:\FILE.LST SETFILE.BAT
 > > call SETFILE.BAT
 > >
 > > BTW, how do you use the environmental variable?
 >
 > Steve, I tried your idea but it doesn't work because the BAT file ends
 > at the ctrl-Z which is the end of file character for DOS.
 > Wait... if the SET was in a separate BAT file as the last line and I
 > continued from another BAT file which had CALL'd it this might still =
work.

Russ, the first line simply creates a file called SET.TXT. If this
command does not work, you can enter the following on the DOS prompt:

  copy con set.txt ÝEnter¨
  set file=3D ÝCtrl-Z¨

This will create the same file with just one line "set file=3D". When you
have this file, you can use the batch file which is listed above.

Tom
www.rundel.net/palmtop

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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


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One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
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I also have  (1) 256MB PC100 Dimm  in excellent condition for $145.00
plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

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Does anyone know where I can obtain ascii characters that are not part of the
standard set? Characters like a line that rises to the right at 30 degrees,
not 45 degrees, and math symbols.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 2000 22:31:29 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Jim Gilbert wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can obtain ascii characters that are not part
> of the standard set? Characters like a line that rises to the right at
> 30 degrees, not 45 degrees, and math symbols.

If an ascii table in a browser window is good enough, go to:

http://members.tripod.com/~plangford/ascii.html

If you need it as a program that prints the table on the display of your
LX, then you might want to look at Simtel (the DOS archive), or a
programmer on the list could probably whip up such a program within a
couple of minutes or so ;-)


Cheers,

Laust

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Thanks Laust.  A good lead, especially for all the unix people (myself
included).

I found tcless and less291x on Simtel, and they appear to be versions 48 and 291
respectively (1988 and 1995 file dates).  Both seem to run on the LX without
problems.

I'll have a better look at them over the weekend, but at a glance they don't
appear to support a bookmarked return to a previous location in the file except
perhaps by using a vi type command-line jump to a line number.  Besides, what I
was hoping for was to be able to switch from vertical to horizontal mode (as the
situation requires) in the same app so as to avoid having to track separate
bookmarks.

Nonetheless, it appears to be a useful tool for my LX (and for my NT station).
I only wish our SysAdmins had it loaded on our unix machines at work as well.

- Longden





Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> on 09/29/2000 03:51:26 PM

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Subject:  Re: VR in vertical mode



> Yeah there's a lot of standard viewers out there ... but VR lets you
> exit and return back to where you were last ... a nice bookmarking
> touch.

An older version of UNIX "less" might be a good solution. For the vi'ers
(I know you're out there), it has vi-style key bindings, powerful search
functions, and since it a UNIX TTY app it is most likely flexible enough
to work perfectly in all three zoom modes (I think the screen size, as
used by the program, can be set on the fly). I wouldn't be surprised if it
had bookmarks either. It only handles fixed width fonts, of course. Only
downside is that "less" tends to run a bit slowly on the LX, especially
newer versions (I think I have version 3.x on my LX, but I don't have it
handy to check). An older version might be a good compromise, though.

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> I found tcless and less291x on Simtel, and they appear to be versions 48 and 291
> respectively (1988 and 1995 file dates).  Both seem to run on the LX without
> problems.

heh. quite a difference in the age of those two verions... I tried both
v48 and v291 on my LX (single speed), but found tcless to primitive (as I
recall it had no regular expression search, only plaintext) but fast and
v291 very advanced, but too slow. I finally settled on v177, also
available from Simtel (GNUish section).

> I'll have a better look at them over the weekend, but at a glance they
> don't appear to support a bookmarked return to a previous location in
> the file except perhaps by using a vi type command-line jump to a line
> number.  Besides, what I

"m      Followed by any lowercase letter, marks the current position with
that letter.". According to the manual anyway. I don't think these
bookmarks can be saved, though.

> was hoping for was to be able to switch from vertical to horizontal
> mode (as the situation requires) in the same app so as to avoid having
> to track separate bookmarks.

Well, I think I can say you won't find such an app. Isn't VR the only
vertical reader for the LX anyway?

I was hoping to use the two environment variables "COLUMNS" and "LINES",
which are supported by less (v177+) to force it to only use, say 64x20
characters of the display when I'm using one of the zoom modes (less
should do automatical wrapping as well), but sadly I haven't been able to
get it to work so far. I usually use 80x25, so for me it's not that
important anyway.

> Nonetheless, it appears to be a useful tool for my LX (and for my NT
> station).

I use it all the time, on every platform I can. I suppose it's no
different from other people having their favorite file viewer, execept of
course, I know I can get less-ports on most platforms :-)

> I only wish our SysAdmins had it loaded on our unix machines
> at work as well.

What? no less on your UNIX systems? I thought it was standard by now. You
really should get them to install it. You know, less is more than more ;-)


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 1 Oct 2000 02:32:13 +0000
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I recently purchased a 200LX and accessories from a person giving up the
palmtop due to eyesight.  I am decideing what to keep and what to sell.
One of the modems I got is an "AT&T Keep in Touch Express 14.4 Data Fax
Modem".  I ass-u-me the modem draws less than 150ma because it came with
the 200LX but I can't find that specification anywhere on the PCMCIA
card or in the manual.

Does anyone know this modem's power requirements?  I don't want sell a
modem here that might not be suitable.

Cheers... Russ

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Hi Russ.

I believe that's the same modem I once had (my first for the 200LX) and while it
worked on the LX, the power drain was marginally high.

I determined it was 165ma (online .... and 10ma sleep) based on a website (now
defunct) with modem power info.  As I said, the modem worked, but it drew a
"battery low" message whenever it was inserted and had other light-dimming
aspects about it .... most prominent of all being the limited time it was able
to operate on battery power.

On AC, it was capable, but got a lot warmer than I was comfortable with.

My modem was model 3760-b2, and I don't recall the word "Express" on the modem,
tho it's been a while since I sold it .... so don't ass-u-me that the above
applies to your modem.  It had a dongle (which I hated) and various pink and
blue colors ... if that's any help.

- Longden





Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> on 09/30/2000 07:32:13 PM

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Subject:  AT&T 14.4 Data Fax Modem (PCMCIA)



I recently purchased a 200LX and accessories from a person giving up the
palmtop due to eyesight.  I am decideing what to keep and what to sell.
One of the modems I got is an "AT&T Keep in Touch Express 14.4 Data Fax
Modem".  I ass-u-me the modem draws less than 150ma because it came with
the 200LX but I can't find that specification anywhere on the PCMCIA
card or in the manual.

Does anyone know this modem's power requirements?  I don't want sell a
modem here that might not be suitable.

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> heh. quite a difference in the age of those two verions... I tried both
> v48 and v291 on my LX (single speed), but found tcless to primitive (as I
> recall it had no regular expression search, only plaintext) but fast and
> v291 very advanced, but too slow. I finally settled on v177, also
> available from Simtel (GNUish section).

Thanks, I'll have to check out the GNUish section.  I hadn't read enough of the
docs to know about the RegExp difference, tho I know that's your stomping
ground.

> > don't appear to support a bookmarked return to a previous location in
> "m      Followed by any lowercase letter, marks the current position with
> that letter.".

Standard vi bookmarks then .... and they're not persistent for vi either.

> Well, I think I can say you won't find such an app. Isn't VR the only
> vertical reader for the LX anyway?

Exactly the reason they should make a HR mode!  OTOH, I suppose I can just use
VR while I'm lying down and pretend it's HR mode <g>.

> What? no less on your UNIX systems? I thought it was standard by now. You
> really should get them to install it.

Like asking my mainframe system programmer to up my batch job priority.  The
people in control answer to different gods (and why the PC's came to be in the
first place ... despite all the debates about performance, it was really about
control).

>You know, less is more than more ;-)

But without persistent bookmarks, I'm afraid less is only more or less more than
 more to me <g>.

- Longden

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